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[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
Can anyone get 1.3.2 for me? It magicly disappeared from my hard drive.... :/

Change roms like I change underwear.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Hgoldner posted the link for 1.4 Beta:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13844754&postcount=1761

FWIW, it was rock-solid for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] terrencegf:
Welcome back Steve! Glad you are on the mend.

I am still on v.1.3.2 and am pretty happy with it. I had thought about upgrading to the 1.4-beta but I was concerned about just how "beta" it actually was. Thus I would vote for releasing a 1.4-final.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erik1213:
Steve! Welcome back! Glad you are finally better, you have been missed.

One of the things that has not yet been introduced in any GingerSense ROM that I would love to see is the phone and appdrawer buttons swapped, along with right-button remappings. Other than that, you're usual theme and modifications you make I'm sure will be outstanding.

P.S. If you happen to find that you are in need of some more beta testers...please let me know, I would love to help out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erik1213:
The 1.4 beta is actually pretty final. I moved to it from 1.3.2 and even having been on it for almost 2 months now, it is still stable as ever and is always my go back to ROM after trying out another.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Welcome back, dude. Delighted to see you return. I was just thinking how I really don't like the Gingerbread drop-down settings menu and still prefer the old drop down settings menu in Magnolia and other Froyo ROM's; plus I miss the left button of the Rosie going straight to AppFolders.

All those nice Magnolia touches.....

Looking forward eagerly to what you whip up, Steve.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ohredwood:
HOLY CRAP!!!! Well, damn it's good to see you back, even if it's just to say, you are alive and well, and seeing good, that's awesome news man......

On to buisness, if you still in the cooking software for inc's, that's even better news. I am currently running, NIL's gingersense biz version with the recommendation of some of the Magnolia folks, and it's got some nice features to it, I've been pretty pleased and that guy seems like you, supporting his work and questions very well.

I will say, maybe it's a gingerbread thing, maybe it's memory thing, maybe it's a 1 g snapdragon thing, maybe a phone that's over a year old thing, don't know but it seems certain things are a bit laggy, did notice that on Magnolia.

So in the end, I will most deffinitely give Magnolia ginger something a checkout. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] BSquaredB2:
I agree!! I randomly check this thread hoping for an update for you and Magnolia. Good to hear you are doing better!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Random Request

Would anyone be able to suggest a fairly simple (close to stock) Gingersense Rom I can flash to see what's up? Something that is known to be fairly stable and smooth? I wanna run it for a day or so and see what I would change/improve. NB- Definitely not saying I can improve another dev's work, I mean in terms of what I like personally and my users might like as well.

EDIT - looks like NILS' Rom is a candidate?!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
I'd go and try Liberation Enhanced 2.0 Beta

It's our gingersense leak, but with all the junk removed. As for stability, its a leak, so, not perfect. But it is smooth.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
oops. gsense, not stock. lol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Nils' Business GingerSense feels a whole lot like Magnolia. He's also a very responsive developer, like you.

Liberation Enhanced is one of the closest to stock, if you don't feel like starting with the leaked ROM. Early ROM's (all of them) had GPS issues which the developers apparently figured out. Also, several are "recommending" newer radios, but the jury is still out on that issue. Many still have issues mounting music on emmc to the stock player, but they work with PowerAmp and other apps.

Finally, I haven't encountered any Gingerbread ROM that has TV Out working on the Incredible yet. None of the leaks have the files for it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
My late edit. Not your bad...;).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
a little add plays into it with this android crap. lol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
You can't spell android without ADD. Alright, now I'm spamming my own thread...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
IMHO Nils had the best one of all of those.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m1rked:
Ah, woooo hooooo! Glad to hear that your feeling better bud.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
At least we still have one faithful dev.... -.- sorry steve, but i had to say something

Change roms like I change underwear.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
ROM Testing

OK. Flashing NILs' ROM and will check it out. Flashed a Tbolt ROM, too. Man things are Fast/messy/cool/weird over there. I feel like an old man. Little bit more sanity over here, it seems.

Anyway, this is going to be fun with the new gingersense and 3.0 stuff...

Will let you know when I have something up.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
Not any more. And I guess I'm missing sleep. F summer school!

Change roms like I change underwear.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parcou:
Welcome back man! I am new here on v1.3.2 was on Virtuous and you are cool as ice as he was...active answer questions, etc. I was staying you all do this stuff with passion hard to put demands on ya when things get slow...

One user here posted he moved to Synergy rom. I looked at the link...I found two things interesting...

1. the lock screen sensations that shows pictures

2. music player flips through the album covers thing like the iphone

3. "power" options menu gives some more control and task manager added in looked cool...not sure if really needed on Droid

They raised and eyebrow but not enough to move me from your rom. Plus being an engineer always traveling I hate flipping or updates on my device takes too long to get it way I like... (sure I will not your back...dang :-) )

One question. I am eligible for a VZW device upgrade...you recommend the HTC Tbolt upgrade or stay with the Incredible?

Thx
[Droid Incredible Android Development] beard0:
Instead of working on gingersense 3.0 can you do some pure 2.1 gingersense loving :)

Sent from my Dinc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Exactly. Welcome back Steve, glad to see your better.

sent from my dinc that thinks its a dinc2
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Glad you are better!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
I just may. Some of the 3.0 visuals, animations, etc. are a bit much sometimes, for me anyway...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erik1213:
If you do, can you at least try to get the Sense 3.0 lockscreen stable? If not, can you try something like SkyRaider did so we can use other lockscreens that also don't break the Sense alarm function? I love the ability to open apps straight from the lockscreen.

Edit: The Sense 3.0 lockscreen doesn't have to include the fancy live wallpaper and such, I just really want the apps :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
I'll take a look and see...I feel like things need to be smoothed out some in general with the 3.0 stuff, but I am still just messing around with the phone right now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
As to the tbolt, it depends. It's a very fast and full featured phone and is big enough for my very large hands, so I like it, but it is a bit of a brick and the battery life is so so (much better with new kernels, though). Thats why i use the incredible as my main phone-I can use it on a business trip and not worry about the battery dying or it pulling my suit pants down like a kid on the Wire. I am hoping that htc's new Verizon devices show up soon and address the weight/battery issues. Not sure why the Inc. 2 was so blah...

I plan to make roms for the tbolt, as well, though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parcou:
Thx.. I will wait..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jpzsports:
If you could make a fast and stable Sense ROM and just add in the 3.0 lockscreen, that'd be perfect!!

The lockscreen is the only feature from Sense 3.0 that I want. I'd rather keep it smooth and less bloated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] beard0:
Thanks man :) by the way how ya feeling??

Sent from my Dinc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
I like the lockscreen and the quick menu in the pull down. I can't stand the cube-type home screen switching and the other animations. Feels like I'm watching the Japanese cartoon that causes epilepsy. Yikes. Does one get used to it?

I am using the other 3.0 widgets to see what they ad, if anything.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Great! Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tincbtrar:
I may give this ROM a try!

Its a gorgeous one...and im sure its fast and smooth because it doesnt have any Sense 3.0 stuff...

I guess the lockscreen would be cool though.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
It is. Stable. Beautiful. And great battery to boot

Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
Steve. I did the 4x4 stock app drawer with browser, and noticed a huge speed improvement. Just my experience over 48 hours

Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tincbtrar:
Wow...this ROM is great.

The only thing I would like is the 'All Apps' mapped to the left rosie button.

'All Applications' is kinda small for this guy - my sight is terrible.

Im not sure which .zip to flash to get this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
Stock rosie icons in order. First mod on page 3 I believe

Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
New Rom (2.0) Plan

Hi All,

So, I am pretty much ready with what I want to do based on test driving some excellent ROMs made by other devs. Forgot what a great phone this is...

Anyway, here we go:

1. Gingerbread base;

2. Sense 2.1, except for the lockscreen, notifications menu (quick settings), app drawer (much better in 3.0, will still have App Folders option, as I use it) and messaging widget (I like the 3rd widget, where you can read the message, but it's still a list, option in 3.0);

3. Magnolia theme (like before, but with some slight changes and incorporating new 3.0 elements, plus color menu icons (??), straight black bar for bottom home screen icons (??);

4. Rosie remaps (Phone left, apps middle, browser right (with additional mappings later);

5. Optimize/reengineer APKs;

6. percentage battery, custom apps, yada yada, like before;

7. Make it fast, stable and battery friendly.

Please let me know what you think, ideas for additional elements, etc. Can't promise I'll do them all, but I'll try it if I think it's worth it.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Wow! Looks like that could be a real winner! Good luck!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I really like the 3.0 MMS app (although I can always drop back to Go SMS).

Also like the newer HTC Agenda & calendar widgets (spoiled now).

Could absolutely live without the drop-down settings menu and revert to JsChuiSurf's drop down widgets.

Positively addicted to AppFolders. Nobody has been able to remap the left Rosie button under Gingerbread to it. You'd be the first.

Most of all, I miss the spead and smoothness of Magnolia. I like the ROM I'm using, but every once in a while I'm staring at my Incredible waiting for it to finish thinking about what it's going to do next.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ohredwood:
That all sounds great especially the last part 7

I have been pretty pleased with the current ROM I'm on, because I think NILS has a similiar approach as your work. I like how the widgets and such seem fresher, obviously more up to date, the one thing I ditto with hgoldner on is that I sometimes feel like now my phone is waiting, and I'm waiting on it to think about what it wants to do.

For some reason The Market loads slow now, it never did that before, but now it's a good 10-15 seconds before it will load the initial Market page, maybe gingersomething, I have no idea.

The only other thing I would not really desire is, if I get a call while I'm away from my phone, I don't need a big display screen bypassing the lockscreen picture with JENNIFER or TOM or whoever missed call, I can see the missed call icon at the top, and after I pass the lockscreen I can see the info, just my two cents, maybe some folks dig it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Hmmm...I agree with the MMS app and widgets. So, to those posting about the "waiting" issue, is this primarily when opening up an app, or is it noticable other times, as well?

Thanks.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
I've been running the reengineered3d sense 3.0 its not perfect but most of the 3.0 stuff works and the only lag is when the phone is syncing or doing a lot of media intensive stuff. if you can include Sense 3.0 calendar app that would be great.

I'm no dev, but alot of the 3.0 and 2.1/3.0 roms have not been properly fixed for the dinc.When you look into the cid,mns etc. xml's there is still alot of sprint related items and it causes diferent problems for different people.

Good to see that you are back.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Thanks for this. I will def check out the vestigial Sprint stuff. You are referring to a Chingy ROM, no? I'll see if I can utilize him as a source...Lord knows he's used me as one before (;)).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
1. Market is waaaaaaaaay out of touch. New market opens way to slowly, Nils' themed market was better, but all Market apps have been "out of sync" with actual update process under Gingerbread. I.e., app shows download is initializing but you already have an "update" icon in the notification bar.

2. Drop down settings menu usually responds immediately, sometimes not so much.

3. Occasionally, especially shortly after boot (but once Sense at least appears to have loaded), when I press on the app I want to go to, I get a black screen with visible notification bar and things just sort of drift into lala land. Sometimes I get a force close message (force close / wait ) other times force close message with "report" dialogue for the app.

The lags occasionally are poorly timed and make me want to hurl the phone at the wall, then I remember it's my own damn fault for rooting...and flashing a different ROM.

As with everything, things mostly work, one only notices when they don't!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Vernox701:
Yes .......... Also while most of the 3.0 roms are close to 300megs his is @245 maybe 250
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
if steve makes i will crackflash it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MyronW:
Steve! It is wonderful to have you back, especially with your eyesight restored!:D

I've been playing with Nil's ROM because I have a need to flash something, but my Magnolia 1.4 backup has been my lifeboat for a long time now.

I can't wait to see you continue your efforts on the Incredible.

Myron
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Very helpful. I am stripping down/customizing a base ROM right now (reengineering APKs, theming, getting rid of what I consider bloat, optimizing PNGs, tweaking system, scripts, adding some 3.0 stuff etc., etc.). It will likely take the weekend, and then I'll boot it and see if these issues are present. If so, I will look at logcats for these issues and see what I can do. I have to believe there is a way to squash these bugs...

Just so I know, are people still of the mind that the latest HTC kernel is best so people can stick with that or choose their own kernels?

Thanks.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
I believe the stock kernel is the only one that is fully functional. So stovk is best until source released. From my experience, stock works great!

Sent from XDA App
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ohredwood:
I'm guessing yes for my .02cents. I've flashed a number of things and a few people but never a kernel unless it came with a stock verizon OTA, now cpu's, bios, and motherboards, well another story, lol...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] beard0:
That's the only gingersense kernel right now available

Sent from my Dinc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
Sounds like a good plan steve

Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
My phone has started to bog down as if it's caught in quicksand. Not easy to diagnose the source of the problem, and *really* don't want to take all the time to wipe and reflash my current ROM right now (and also not convinced it's a radio issue). I would immediately restore my last Magnolia 1.4 beta Nandroid, but I cannot afford to downgrade to the 150 megabyte \data\data partition and all those issues which positively killed effective use.

So what I'm sayin' is, can hardly wait until I see your next ROM, Steve.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Maybe, maybe not...;). Anyway, I would rather stick to the original game plan anyway...need to take things one at a time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Me neither. I am wallowing in apk reengineering hell right now (decompile, strip out extraneous languages, fix xml syntax, recompile, repeat...d'oh), but the fun starts once that is finished...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nfiniti9:
Ahh I know that nightmare. I tried it with the new gb release but its so much tedious repetitive work. I applaud you for your effort. Anyway, good to see you back. Your rom and SR are definitely the smoothest most stable roms I have used. I tried my own for months but they never matched the quality of you guys so I gave up. Glad you are doing better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rberry88:
The only thing I miss after trying all the sense 3.0 roms is mail app. I like the 2-4 inline preview and the checkbox next to the message for quick delete.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
May I suggest you start a new thread for your new release / new format?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] BSquaredB2:
Yes please!...helpful for finding info or bug fixes (if any ;) )
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
THat is a good idea. Don't want to get admins upset, but I think it would be worthwhile.

BTW - Chugging along slowly, fitting in time between work/kids. Hope to have something beta to try out soon...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] VZYGuy:
I know we, (you) are moving on to newer versions of android and Sense but I suggest at least getting this thread to have 1.3.4 up in the OP.

I was fortunate enough to be in on the beta and the phone has work flawlessly for me. I am thankful for your recovery and to have you back in the development arena.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Thanks. I actually have a Website I may put these one at some point, but I will put the older versions (last 2) in the OP of the new thread, as well.

I am working with the new sense stuff, particularly the lag/stall issues many users have reported. I think I know what the deal is, and am slowly injecting the sluggish 3.0/Gingersense elements into my base ROM (which flies ;)). Sometimes it works fine, other times, there is the lag/stall. I am hoping that my latest brain storm works.

I also need to port the power control widgets for Tbolt MR2 ROMs, so I will get everything done eventually. The Inc. ROM is my priority, as I am using the phone myself...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ohredwood:
Did I miss something, been a couple weeks, and ole Magnolia is on page 4 of the developers section, thought maybe it was renamed, maybe I was overlooking it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Nope. Just not a lot of activity. I am waiting on a new handset right now (long story), and then I should have something out fairly quickly. I also am getting a Dinc 2, so this should be fun.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
My DI1 crashed and burned; Assurion replaced it with a DI2. So I thought: no more Magnolia for me. Glad to hear I could be wrong!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Def wrong! I am planning on making the 2 ROMs in sync with each other, and that way I can keep track of them more easily.

BTW - the Dinc2 is pretty nice, no? I also lost my Dinc1, and had to get the 2 from Verizon, but managed to get a 1 from a less "official" source, as well.

I am expecting an XTC clip for the Dinc 2 tomorrow, so should be able to start on that soon, as well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
LOVE my DI2. Great size, fast, and customizable. If you're waiting for a clip, then yours must have come pre-loaded with GB? I got lucky and received an un-updated unit - so I rooted it the same day I got it. Currently running MIUI.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Yep. Mine came with 2.3.3 :(. That's OK, was thinking of getting a clip anyway for future phones, etc.

Actually arrived just now. Will use it later and hopefully get s-off...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
not to bug and pester you steve, but are there any planned updates for this rom? because sense 2.0/3.0 wasnt really meant to run on these phones. ive found myself using all the sense 1.0 roms, and this is the best one. just asking, cause im sure other people would like to see this progress too. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] BSquaredB2:
Nice! I just got a Dinc 2 for work, but I'm not able to upgrade my Dinc yet. Hopefully I can have the best of both! I also like the Dinc 2 as far as size, speed, and battery life. Unfortunately mine also came with GB 2.3.3. I've been trolling the Dinc 2 threads, but it looks like rooting is a pain in the arse. Can't wait to see what you come up with for either of them!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Status of Magnolia 2.0

Definitely not bugging me. I agree that some of the gingersense Dinc 1 roms have some issues, and I think the devs are up front about that. They are pushing the limits of what the phone can do, and there are drawbacks as a result. Some of the ones I tried have been pretty damn great...

What I am doing is working with the INC 2 base/stock ROM (gingerbread with sense 2.1) and adding some sense 3.0 elements. I think that this combination is the most smooth/stable while incorporating convenient/useful 3.0 features.

Unfortunately, I have had a spate of bad hardware luck (My Tbolt got soaked, and my Dinc 1 got "misplaced" by my 19 month old son), so my process has been interrupted. However, I just rooted my new Dinc 2 and am expecting a used Dinc 1 tomorrow/wednesday. Once I have a working Dinc 1 handset, it is basically a matter of loading what I have done so far and logcat-ing errors, making things stable/smooth. At that point, I will release a beta.

In the meantime, I am working with the rom on the handset I have (Dinc 2) and trying to keep my mods equal across the two roms (I have a kitchen for each). Does that make sense? I am getting over a cold, so you never know ;).

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
There are one or two things I like in Sense 3.0. The email application is quite nice, and the messaging app is good.

Mostly I am hooked on Gingerbread because the 150 megabyte limitation in Froyo's \data\data partition goes away, banishing low memory space messages to the scrap heap with stock ROM's.

Really looking forward to what you cook up, Steve.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
+1, charging now. getting to reflash magnolia 1.3.2 cause apparently my backup dissapeared.... :mad::(