yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
For what its worth, both the Dec 23 incredikernel and Lou's #8 have been treating me right. Lou's is a bit more on the chill side. Not as snappy, maybe, but smooth and zero stability issues for my part. It is the one I use steadily now.

Ziggys kernels have not been so good with this ROM of late. Not sure why.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] laxer3n7:
any chance you could throw up just the magnolia folder? I lost mine when my SD card died
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Here you go. http://www.mediafire.com/file/uu1p5p7e54dtben/Magnolia.zip

Just unzip and copy to your SD card.

FYI- this has the fixed naf_rom_default_icons.zip Rosie Extra, as its from the upcoming ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Steve, any reason Lou's #7 kernel would be a problem with Magnolia? I'm using it (over #8 & #9) because I can get 10-touch points, and it runs fairly well for me now.

Planning on flashing it as soon as 1.2 comes out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hexon:
How can I flash back the stock kernal? I'm trying to see if I can get better battery life with it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nfiniti9:
I was getting the best battery life with chad's kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jon23781:
Is 1.2 going to switch to update-binary and updater-script (Edify).

I have clockworkMOD 3.0+ and am running into the error message:

Amend scripting (update-script) is no longer supported.

Amend scripting was deprecated by Google in Android 1.5.

It was necessary to remove it when upgrading to the ClockworkMod 3.0 Gingerbread based recovery.

Please switch to Edify scripting (updater-script and update-binary) to create working update zip packages.​

I apologize if I am repeating an issue already discussed in this ROM thread. I searched and I didn't find anything so to my knowledge I am the first to run into this issue. And to add to everything, I am a n00b.

I did do a general search of this error and ran into this thread

[NOTICE] ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0+ and update-script

Thanks for the help.

Radio - 2.15.00.07.28

Kernel 2.6.32.17 -g9a2fc16

ROM - Virtuous 3.1.0
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Wishka233:
I mentioned it in post #542 and Steve said he would look into it.

For now, I downgraded Clockwork in Rom Manager to an earlier version and haven't experienced any problems.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jon23781:
You are right, my apologies.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spence341:
On the alarm won't turn off. From sleep issue. If you are using the vanilla lock, you need to use the alarm from the vanilla clock. Sense clock alarm does not work with vanilla lock.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Wishka233:
No worries. Great minds think alike. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Here: http://files.virtuousrom.com/inc/kernels/virtuous-kernel_stock_v4.zip

Flash as usual.

ALL credit to RMK.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Let me find out. I will run it for a while. My understanding was that some users were having boot issues with that kernel, but I have not tried it with my ROM. I will let you know.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
I switched to updater script for the new version. So far so good with the new cw recovery.

Steve.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Hmmm

So does this mean that those of us wishing to move to v1.2 will absolutely need to "upgrade" to v3.0.0.5 of recovery first?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
If you are on v2.5.1.2, I believe you can flash both kinds of roms. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Titanium Backup - Restore System Settings?

I admit that I started looking at other ROM threads while waiting for v1.2 to come out (boo, I know). On SkyRaider I noted that the Dev had said that when transitioning to his ROM, you should NOT restore any of the system settings from Titanium Backup.

Of course wiping data to flash a new ROM is one thing, having to set up, from scratch, Gmail / Market / Contacts / BlueTooth / Wifi / Email Settings / etc is a whole other thing.

Does anyone *know* (would rather not have people's guesses, like the post right above this one, if possible) if someone coming from stock/virtuous can restore system settings from titanium backup when transitioning to Magnolia?

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hexon:
You should never restore settings even when switching between ROMs from the same dev. If the dev changes something and you restore the old settings it could cause some issues. Just stick to restoring apps+data with Titanium. It only takes a few minutes to restore the other stuff.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Grrr

I guess I got spoiled by the fact that Virtuous mirrored stock; so I was able to restore settings transitioning between the two. <sigh>
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hexon:
I believe all the things you mentioned, except email, should automatically restore though when you completely wipe and change roms.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Sigh

:) That is why I was hoping to hear from the Dev :)

The question here, in a lot more detail is:

1) Can I restore the system settings for bluetooth, or do I have to re-pair every devide?

2) Can I restore the system settings for wifi networks/passwords, or do I have to set up every wifi again?

3) Can I restore the pop3 and smtp settings for my email account, or do I have to go through all those setups again, etc.

4) etc.

If possible, can Steve be the person to answer.

Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] schollianmj:
my name is not steve so i guess Im not allowed to answer answer...

But for me 1 and 2 did not work.... just saying. but again, my name is not steve....

:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
My general feeling is restoring apps and their associated data is acceptable, but system settings, including the ones you mention, are not. There are just too many changes from stock, and I cannot predict how they will be affected by restoring system data.

However, I would be willing to try these out for you, as I flash at least twice a day right before release anyway.

I will let you know.

Just so everyone knows, 1.2 will be out on Saturday AM (that's firm). The hold up has been my work, but it has subsided, and I have all day tomorrow to finish :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
This is correct.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
I have been running #7 on the current build of 1.2 all night and day and so far, so good.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Zeesis:
While I wouldn't really mind either way, I gotta agree with Tarund... I know where and what my friend stream/mail looks like and what screen its located on. I Dont really need a big arse Icon to remind me.

Can't think of another ROM that has simplified the Design while also improving the look, The Simplicity and Style is what I love about your ROM.

If in doubt refine it! ;) unless its a big PITA then just go with easy :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
i'm all about simplicity as well, so i agree with these dudes. hope to see RC2 tonight :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
The "refined" FriendStream, Twitter and News Widgets are FINALLY done...I am just working on the power widget notification light issue. I am going as fast as possible, but these things take time...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
no worries.. better to have a finished product than rushed. thanks for your work!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Zeesis:
Couldn't agree more and can't thank you enough for your hard work.

Id be getting antsy by now if your ROM wasn't already working great and looking awesome ... Don't get me wrong tho, I still check for RC2 every few hours. :D

Just out of curiosity... not trying to add more crap to your plate... but have you played with a transparent Titlebar? (kind of like Myn's 2.2 option) Im not sure how it would play with the rest of the transparent theme going on, If it would help or hurt that is.

Just throwin that out there for the next time you get bored ;), Thanks again!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Status Update

OK. So I have identified the issue with the notification power widget indicators. Apparently JsChiSurf has fixed it for his EVO mod. I am currently isolating what the change/fix he made is and hopefully all we be done for release...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
RC2

Is now up in OP. Enjoy, and happy new year!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Zeesis:
Saweet! dowloadin and flashing now. Ill let yah know how it goes :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] techobsessive:
This is by far my favorite Sense ROM. I was using aosp flavors, but figured i go back to sense. Id keep this ROM, if I could only use a wii mote controller. I dont know if you could bake the bluetooth stacks required in..but thatd be awesomeeeeeeeeee. TV out + Wiimote + Emulator of your choice = wowwwwwwwwza.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Hmm. No idea. I'll check if out. Why not?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mightyjohn:
Just flashed the RC2 over RC1 and I dont have the friend stream widget at all... I really like frindstream and would love the widget.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tarund:
Read over Steve's install instructions couple more times. Maybe it will sink in, in due time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mightyjohn:
oh, ok... oops. I didn't expect that to be a side effect. Did the drop down gadgets change with RC2 or is that another side effect of flashing over? I lost my flashlight and gained backlight control... I need the flashlight there. Perhaps I will just stick with RC1 for now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spence341:
In the OP, it links the directions to change the Power Control widgets.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] techobsessive:
Bluetooth stacks are missing in sense roms
[Droid Incredible Android Development] buzzdroidx:
so wheres the gingerbread keyboard? I thought the change log says its in this rom? I didn't see it in the removed apps folder either Oh, and how do i get rid of the cd popup in windows everytime I plug into my usb?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
You have to switch keyboards. Press and hold on any input field, and a pop-up will appear saying "input method". Tap this and select "android keyboard" and there you go.

I do not use windows, so not sure about the CD deal. Any one else have this issue?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spence341:
I believe the pop up is due to having the HTC application loaded on you computer. Un-install and it should stop.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pecopsu:
In order to eliminate the Verizon pop-up, you need to remove CDROM.ISO from /system/etc (I think this is the right folder)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Yep. I missed this. Sorry about that. It doesn't show on a mac/ubuntu, so I spaced. Will be fixed in RC3. Thanks pecopsu!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
I also have a couple of questions for users out there:

1. How do people feel about the option to have custom mappings with the different icons (color, gingerbread)? I ask because making the zips take time, but I am unsure of the interest level.

2. What about the Vanilla lockscreen with gestures port mentioned earlier? This would certainly be an optional add-on, but is there sufficient interest to have it included in the Magnolia extras folder? I ask because it is rather large in size and would require additional Rosie extras. Maybe better as a download from OP after release?

What else are people looking for? Ask now or forever hold you peace. I can't guarantee I will include all requests, but my ears are open.

BTW, the translucent theme is pretty much done, so that will be available as a download in themes section after release, so no need to ask for this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] VZYGuy:
I have been unable to get the add on 3GHotspot to work; it will start up and allow the PC to connect, but always the pc error "No Internet Access" shows for the connection.

Could you just leave it in the app? It does not take up much room and it is allows for changing the encryption type. WiFi tether supports the latest in encryption but a pc with the XP OS prior to SP2 does not support the encryption.

Thanks you for considering this idea.

[EDIT] Nevermind. I reflashed 1.1.1 and applied the update zip and it works now. :cool:

[Edit2] If you could update the WirelessRouter.zip to also update system\app\htcsettingwidgets.apk so the shortcut is also installed I'll quit bugging you about the hotspot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Can't wait for Saturday....

Personally, I like full color notification bar icons (cf. Conservative Icons) which are easier on my middle-age eyes, and I prefer a Rosie with phone left, apps center and MMS right. I like the pull-down widgets (but that's already in there), and I like a lock screen that enables me to turn sound off. I can always work around the stock alarm/timer issues by linking a different app to my clock widget (which is Simi Clock).

Delighted you've got Lou's #7 running. I can't believe you flash twice a day. I trust you're using something else for a real phone....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TeH PLAYA:
1. Yes on the colored notification icons and/or gingerbread icons. Nice to have options. However, I'm fine with the stock icons.

2. Also yes on the Vanilla lockscreen w/ gestures. I text a lot, so it would be nice to go directly to my SMS from the lockscreen. I use chompSMS though, so would it prompt to choose either stock SMS or chompSMS? Also, having this as a download via the OP is fine by me.

EDIT:

BTW, I like this ROM so far. Using it with LauncherPro. Been running it for 230 hours of up time and it's rock stable!

I'll flash a different kernel when 1.2 comes out so I can tweak the CPU. I'm only getting like ~1100 on Quadrant. However, the phone doesn't "feel" slow at all. Butter smooth and fast.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
My 2 cents

Although I am a newcomer and not even on your ROM yet, my vote is that all the customizations be optional and that there be no super long list of things which don't work (I can't believe some of those lists on the first pages of other ROMs ... Skyraider even says, basically, anything have to do with internal memory doesn't work!).

Just solid out of the box, and let people who want to customize/remove do so at their election, instead of the other way around.

My 2 cents ... looking forward to joining your community on Saturday!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erik1213:
I only just started using this ROM a few hours ago but so far I love it! Only things I really would like added are:

1. 5 Column App Launcher

2. Colored Status Bar notifications

3. Right button remapping for GoSMS app.

4. I love both of your ideas you mentioned as well and would probably use both of them!

Otherwise thus far this ROM is amazing in my little bit of use.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] VZYGuy:
Saturday night with a hot new ROM! What could be better?:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Wishka233:
Another vote for the color icons. Love the way they make my phone look.

Thanks and keep up the great work! Cant wait for Saturday!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] schollianmj:
I want the robot guy battery meter that is available for incredibly Re engineered..

and here is his Download link... Linkey

Hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes by posting that.

as far as custom Icon Zips, I like the origonal icons with no app folders... that or the icons from Myns Warm 2.2.... :)

but regardless, thank you for making the ROM an asking for our input. we really appreciate it!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Of course. As you may have noticed, I tend to keep it simple and offer lots of user optional customization. If I release something that doesn't work, I have not done my job, and, I like to think, I fix it quickly.

I like to ask what people want as a means to keep people loving their phones, of course, but also, and just as importantly for my own enjoyment, challenge myself.

I think you will find that the finished product released on Saturday will look and feel a lot like it does now (hopefully it will feel smoother and faster :-). Most changes are under the hood, and what is not will be optional.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TeH PLAYA:
I second this but for chompSMS. Actually, have an option for all the commonly used SMS apps (GoSMS, chompSMS, handcent, etc.).

EDIT: just read that the current remapping already supports handcent, lol. my bad. I should give handcent a try.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
I am pretty good with 1.1.1... I would suggest adding colored icons in the menu ( for wall paper, notification etc)...I like the colored icons that Nils has.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
I will be porting my Black n Bold theme to Magnolia 1.2 and it includes colored icons. I have done it for Redemptive rEVOlution up to this point. You can get a glimpse of it here. I will post when it is done.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
Excuse me for trying to answer someone's question. I guess I'll wait until I *know* the answer is 100% correct until I post a response.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Argh

DD - We are all friends here and I am not sure if you are trying troll or you truly believe you were wronged in some way. Anyway, I asked a question and you answered with "I believe" and "correct me if I am wrong." Your answer told other people to answer in case you were wrong. Honestly, what am I supposed to do with that kind of answer other than continue to wait for someone to respond.

If you feel you were wronged by my asking for people to not guess at an answer, then I apologize. If you realize that answering a question with a guess followed by "someone correct me if I am wrong" then that's fine too.

Have a great day.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
I don't appreciate being singled out "(would rather not have people's guesses, like the post right above this one, if possible)". If you want to make a point, make it a generic point. I answer questions like that because I don't like to see anyone left hanging. If I answer it that way, then some people back me up or correct me.

I guess what I'm saying is, I wouldn't have worried too much about the post if you wouldn't have tried to make me look bad in my post. I'm trying to help where I can.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Not My Intent

Well that's an easy one ... I had NO intent of singling you out, so I absolutely apologize. If it helps, the post responding to my 'no guesses please' post was also a generic statement/guess :)

It is a pet peeve of mine on XDA (not this thread, and not you) that people ask a question, and then get 30 answers along the lines of "Try Google, its your friend", "I run another ROM but ...", "There are plenty of threads on that, try searching", etc. All the non-answer answers would be comical if XDA wasn't really a place to seek/get help.

Anyway, as I said earlier, I did NOT mean to single you out, and if I offended you, I apologize.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hexon:
If you'll notice Steve also answered your question with "My general feeling." Most answers in these forums don't have one right answer, unfortunately. There are too many factors that play into flashing roms and restoring settings. What works for one person won't necessarily work for another. I also wasn't offended when you added in another post "can steve be the one to answer this question." Now I just know that next time you ask a question I should just blow you off, regardless of the amount of experience I have in the area.

Anyways, Steve I'm glad we'll be seeing 1.2 this weekend. Interestingly, I just switched the CM7 RC1 to try it out and I got much better reception on your ROM.

On another note, in AOSP roms why is display usage the highest battery hog, whereas in Sense roms system uses the most?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
I believe it is Rosie and the other Sense apps. They take up a lot of memory and battery, as they are always going.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Thanks you for apologies, both of you. This clearly was a misunderstanding (happens easily with just words to look at). Now, let's get on with it - this is supposed to be fun!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Steve, now you can add "camp counselor" to your impressive resume.... ;)

Looking forward to 1.2.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Could you clarify. You are saying that there is a settings widget associated with the VZW stock wifi router app, correct? Could you please point me to a ROM where this was the case, as the stock version I build from (most recent afaik) does not have such an option, or maybe it does, and I am doing something wrong. I do not use it, so I am not familiar with it.

Thanks!

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] VZYGuy:
the one I named in my post is from the current virtuous rom

it is inside the settings widget inside the stock app
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Thanks! I will take a look...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Wishka233:
Suggestion: I would love to see the banner text on pull-down notification menu changed. Personally, I am getting sick of looking at "Verizon Wireless" every time I check notifications.

If you do decided to change it, how about something like Rom Name + Version Number? (i.e. Magnolia 1.1.1)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] i5aac:
Yours is a fantastic theme and i used it on Lou's ROM for a while. This should look amazing! Will it work on the senseless version? I assume the icons would, but how about running, for instance, your themed clock on LauncherPro? Either way, i look forward to it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Status

Hi all. I am done with the ROM, but am having some issues with the kitchen I am using (i.e., the actual "cook" of the ROM is giving me errors that it shouldn't be). Please hold tight, it will be out soon. Thanks.

Steve

EDIT - GOT IT!! Ok, fixed the problem myself. Wow, what a pain...anyway, its cooking now and I am going to run for a bit, then release.

Thanks for your patience.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Smoothcrm7:
Yay! so excited to see the changelog and download. Thanks in advance for your hard work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] i5aac:
Waiting anxiously, patiently...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
If you want to desensitize the rom, you will need to run my theme first. Then you can run the script to remove sense. If you run my theme after you run the script, it will add the Sense elements that the script originally removed.

If you are talking about the clock that Stoney666 did for the theme, you can't run it with Launcherpro because it is a Sense clock.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] i5aac:
I suspected as much. No worries. I have been away from sense for so long,i just may stay a while this time
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Looking forward to 1.2 as my move away from virtuous. Standing by. Thanks for the hard work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Thank you for your patience/support

Thank you. I booted up the final version and ran every option there is for the ROM, and there were some issues with some of the add ons (mainly the vanilla lockscreen and desensitize option as I have it packaged now) due to the scripting changes needed for the new clockwork recovery. I figure I should swat these bugs now, so things are smoother/faster/easier going forward. Once the updater-scripts and binaries are done, I will have all the templates I need and won't have to mess with them again! YAY!

Other than this issue, the ROM seems faster, smoother and altogether pretty darn solid, if I do say so myself...

Still plugging away.

Thanks for the support.

Steve