yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
Only one I really miss is bookmarks. Just hate 7 screens and I can customize lp a lot more. Love the scrolling dock as well.

mikfroyo evo, with a side of detox !
[EVO 4G Android Development] hookem14:
mik are you planning on porting the gb keyboard for this rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
if u can promise me that htc wont sue me for doing it... i will.

i already done something similar to that cuz i've separated the widgets dependency on the htc resources in the past and i know exactly how to make sure the widget is 100% indep.

all i need to do is just to mess with some permissions and stuff like that to get it working, im not 100% how to go about doing that... but im sure there are a lot of devs out there that can help me with that.

that was my idea for my next project once ill reach a point where i cant find anything else to opt on the phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
u guys can grab that from anywhere u want... so i dont really see why i would need to add it to the rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jmhaddad:
I am beyond impressed..

This is easily the fastest ROM I have ever installed on my EVO and I have tried quite a few.

Good work mate.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
any screenies of this Rom
[EVO 4G Android Development] retnuh730:
It's exactly the same as regular sense visually, just with tons of improvements of speed under the hood.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tonwarr.the.incredible:
Stability is my reason. I like simplicity but at the same time I also like everything to work and Sense with ADW works for me. Honestly, the ONLY reason I use an alternate launcher is my freedom to fully customize the bottom dock and the inability to change the number of homescreens...
[EVO 4G Android Development] andy.call:
Mostly agreed, but try Smartbench 2010. This one seems to be a bit better at producing more realistic results, reporting two numbers - one for productivity users and one for gamers. Doesn't seem to be affected by poor weighting systems either.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
Here is an update. 12.5 hours off charger. About two hours screen on. Flashed 4 things. 5 nandroids. Battery at 70 %. Definitely worth the investment.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
Actually if you use calkulins remove sense from his rom thread after you install an alternate launcher. Sense will not be running in the background because it won't be there to run. The only thing I leave in from it is the weather crap because I can't figure out what dependancy causes the com.htc.bgp error if I remove it. If I should figure that out it would be gone too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tonwarr.the.incredible:
I still don't really think benchmarks are gonna be able to tell you much. After, myself, running countless benchmarks I realized that the numbers all usually stay close and don't necessarily reflect how efficiently the Rom runs. Smartbench is decent but, as its been stated here several times, the best benchmark is real world usage...:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I turn that one off and actually change my emails to sync like every 6-8 hrs, because if I want to see if I have an email I just go in and sync manually. FBI texts?

FYI People, security alert released yesterday. Thread
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
........... How many texts do you get from the FBI? Is that like a regular thing for you?

Edit: On a serious note ALL my data turns off at screen off and all my texts and calls come in just fine...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
I agree battery life is strictly determined by use. Yes I use all of the phones functions, including autobrightness, loud ringing, using it as an mp3 player, facebook, internet browsing, texting + media texting, camera + video, downloading podcasts and using a music DL app to get music, etc etc etc. The only things I don't agree with are google's/htc's live wallpapers/calendars/news/weather apps as they suck up battery and you can weather/news through internet bookmarks, and a calendar app that isn't ALWAYS draining battery.

As of writing this I'm less than 10 minutes from the 3 hour mark, still at 100%. You must agree that's uncommon. Yes it will drop below 100% with about 15+ minutes of sustained use. Still, most of the battery saving comes from uninstalling a ****load of apps (about 50), from turning off autosyncing and google/htc apps that autosync or background sync, from calibrating the battery with an SBC kernel, and from turning off data/wifi when not in use. I still also believe that 10+ hours of use is unusual, and I attribute it to the tips in my post. Finally, my battery never even dies, I always end up charging it before <15%.

I'll give your post a look ;)

[EDIT: 3 hours, admittedly with the screen mostly off but still with very minor use, still 100% Yes, in my experience it will begin to drop below 100% after about 15 minutes of sustained use, given that its already been there for 3 hours.]
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
What's the alert nick? The "Thread" won't open.

FYI People, security alert released yesterday. Thread[/QUOTE]

"Born from man-Embraced by God"
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
If possible I want battery stat screens shots including screen in times... I could make mine last for four days if I never touched it... I wanna get the most battery under heavy use outta mine... That's my goal

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
"Born from man-Embraced by God"[/QUOTE]

Glad that wasn't just my phone... I thought I couldn't click for some reason...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
I also uninstall Gmail and the Mail app (considered non-critical apps). I just check my mail through bookmarks, so since I don't have to sign in every time and it's almost immediate, it's still pretty nice and I'd rather wait 2 seconds than have a drained battery. If someone wants to contact me immediately, they can text/call.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Yeah, yesterday I was at 100% until around 9:30 or so, but I didn't really do much other than a couple of texts. That was 3 hours off of charger and with the majority of that stuff he has deleted/uninstalled/frozen still running. So in an essence I am getting the same to better life without "dumbing" down my phone. I would think with all that deleted he oughta be able to go 2-3 days without charging.

I have a work phone that I charge every 2 weeks, but I hardly ever use it because I don't make/receive many calls with it and it doesn't get texts/internet/etc.

To put the battery life into perspective...I can do everything on my phone that I can do on my laptop, with the exception of a few programs, but for the most part I can do all the same stuff. Try to unplug your laptop and use it moderately/heavily on and off for 12-15 hours and see how long it lasts. I am perfectly happy with the 12-15 hours of life I get out of my phonputer. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
Can I output my BMW log somehow? I don't have a screencap app. Beyond 3 hours now, still at 100%.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] ibcenu:
anybody got a mirror to mikz? I've got a mac and it does not play well with the multi upload site that mik is using:(
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sweetlittlehugs:
Lol, gv texts was what I actually typed.

I get no texts from the FBI ...
[EVO 4G Android Development] mquinn24:
I've been getting great battery life lately. This is what I do: turn my phone off and use it as a paperweight:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Really? Every time I click on the link I posted it opens for me. HMM..Search in XDA DroidDream Malware and it will come up. Basically like 56 apps that have been deemed malicious and google has removed them from the market. They said you should uninstall them if you have them. The list is in the thread or you can download an app called lookout to scan your phone.

Here's the list in case you still can't get to it.

Full list Developed by “Myournet”:

* Falling Down

* Super Guitar Solo

* Super History Eraser

* Photo Editor

* Super Ringtone Maker

* Super Sex Positions

* Hot Sexy Videos

* Chess

* 下坠滚球_Falldown

* Hilton Sex Sound

* Screaming Sexy Japanese Girls

* Falling Ball Dodge

* Scientific Calculator

* Dice Roller

* 躲避弹球

* Advanced Currency Converter

* App Uninstaller

* 几何战机_PewPew

* Funny Paint

* Spider Man

* 蜘蛛侠

Full list Developed by “Kingmall2010″:

* Bowling Time

* Advanced Barcode Scanner

* Supre Bluetooth Transfer

* Task Killer Pro

* Music Box

* Sexy Girls: Japanese

* Sexy Legs

* Advanced File Manager

* Magic Strobe Light

* 致命绝色美腿

* 墨水坦克Panzer Panic

* 裸奔先生Mr. Runner

* 软件强力卸载

* Advanced App to SD

* Super Stopwatch & Timer

* Advanced Compass Leveler

* Best password safe

* 掷骰子

* 多彩绘画

Full list Developed by “we20090202″:

* Finger Race

* Piano

* Bubble Shoot

* Advanced Sound Manager

* Magic Hypnotic Spiral

* Funny Face

* Color Blindness Test

* Tie a Tie

* Quick Notes

* Basketball Shot Now

* Quick Delete Contacts

* Omok Five in a Row

* Super Sexy Ringtones

* 大家来找茬

* 桌上曲棍球

* 投篮高手
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Again that's all fine, but I get the exact same life out of my phone leaving all that stuff installed/defrosted.

I do agree with you about conditioning your battery and turning off autosync/always on data, but it's just the uninstalling/freezing of all that stuff that seems over the top. I bought this phone because of all those features, so I surely don't want to get rid of them, I may as well go back to one of my POS flip style phones.:rolleyes:

I'm not trying to put down your ideas/thoughts (some of which are good pointers) because if it works for you and you are happy with it then more power to you. I, personally, would rather have all that stuff running, because that's what sets this phone apart from others.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
ok guys... a little bit of good news... i guess MikZ will see a non beta version soon also...

thanks to jdeloach who will take over the project and will work with me to give u guys more form the z rom.

once everything will be tested out... u guys will see a new thread... keep in mind it might take a few days though.

personally from what i can tell so far... the z is working 99% as it should.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Is a direct link to one of those mirrors on multiupload good?

Rapidshare: http://rapidshare.com/files/450771034/MikZ-Beta-I-signed.zip

Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P0XFXEH5

Depositfiles: http://depositfiles.com/en/files/gi97nzxjn

I can do the rest if you want.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Completely useless is again all relative.

When did you actually take it off the charger? Because from what I understand about the SBC kernels is if you are still getting positive mA's like you are at 9 am you are still on charger. But that's just the way I understood it, so, obviously, I could be wrong. I just notice with all of my stats like that as soon as I take it off the charger I get a minus mA.
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
I can understand the Gmail addicts, but weather and stuff doesn't set this apart from any other modern phones, it just drains our battery. What else do I recommend uninstalling that turns the phone "dumb"?

I bought mine for the huge screen, speed, reputation for quality and customizability, potential for 4g, hotspot, full browser, camera + video, video player, adobe flash, hdmi, mp3 player + downloader the list goes on, all of which remain intact. I still think everything I have uninstalled is perfectly useless bloat and eliminating it doesn't dumb down the phone one bit....
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Awesome, can't wait to see what all the hype/fuss is about. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Really my main point is that I leave all that installed and still get the exact same battery life out of my phone as you. It's different with every user and every phone. If you are happy with your setup, great, I just prefer to leave all that stuff in there because I use it. To each their own, as they say. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
:D:D:D

That's good. Your papers don't fly away either!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mijjah74:
Yep, big. Finally downloaded thanks to 4g. No more 4g after I flash this bad boy.

sent from my MikFroGard'd htc evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Just a couple things I want to say:

1. You couldn't have just attached a .txt file with the stats?

2. Push gmail is bloat?

3. More, but I'm way too lazy to make a big post right now.

p.s. The only time I get such low mA usage like you have is when my phone is sleeping, so you can't be using too many of those features you got your phone for when it's sleeping.
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
Whoops I posted the log from when I started charging it lol. Edited the post to show a few mas before I unplugged it.

But I really feel like everything I uninstalled is fully useless, essentially an extension of Mik's efforts to optimize the system by removing useless bloat. Do you use twitter or voice search?
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
1. Could have, I apologize will do that in the future.

2. Nah that's why I said Gmail addicts might as well leave it running, with the qualification that it will obviously use more battery than if they didn't. I personally have used email forever and have found no use for push email. Seems like something salesmen might use, or CEOs maybe...although I wouldn't want my email being pushed to my phone if I was a salesman or a CEO...

Ya the phone is MOSTLY sleeping, but I believe my combined tips should help a lot of the complainers in this thread achieve better battery life without having to read 100 different threads. Also, my batter lasts ALL DAY until I charge it late at night, essentially 10-12 hours, without dying, and with moderate or slightly heavy use.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
It's completely useless to you, but again like I said I have all that installed and get the exact same battery life you do.

No I don't use twitter(uninstalled) and use vlingo a little. I do however use the TTS function quite often when texting because it's pretty accurate and beats typing it all in.
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
Fair enough :)

Most of the stuff is uninstalled to speed up the phone and simply because it doesn't need to be there. Like I said the real battery savers are calibrating it in a way not mentioned in any thread I'm aware of, and by turning off stuff that uses the network, really.

Do you get 10-12 hours of moderate to light-heavy use? That's really neat if you do. I didn't until I uninstalled a lot of the network-accessing stuff, and I think a lot of people who complain in this thread could achieve similar results if they took my unique advice, and they'd achieve a much more optimized experience which is what a lot of people are here for anyways, and contrary to some jokers here it won't dumb the phone down one bit (unless you consider Friendstream a "smart" feature *vomits*).
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I get 12-15 hours out of mine with slightly heavy to heavy use, with all that installed.

But you are right it will probably help someone out who likes the way you have yours set up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Well I appreciate the tips. Just know that in a few hours someone else is going to ask why their battery life is so bad or which kernel to use etc. It's a never-ending cycle. Some people may get terrible results with your setup, and some (like you) get very good results.

It comes down to: Do what fits your needs, test out different setups, and test out kernels per phone because every phone is different.

p.s. Sorry if I'm stating the obvious :D.
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
@.psd

We are not "haters" as you posted but in your own words you are getting 10-12 hours on your phone which is the same as most of us with all the so-called bloat ware. So why go through all the fuss and do all that you have done when your performance outcome is basically the same as our "bloated" phones? Cause I use my phone moderate to heavy and I get 10-12 hours out of it also.

"Born from man-Embraced by God"
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
Fair enough, I think I tried to clarify that people should uninstall all "unused" apps. That's what optimizing is all about, and it was actually a little fun experimenting to find out exactly EVERYTHING I can turn off without getting FCs. It's a minimalist idea, and I still get everything that makes my phone "smart", including autobrightness.

Are you getting 10-12 hours of moderate to heavyish use with autobrightness on? Congratulations if you do, we are among the few from what I've read around here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Oh joy Mik Z is at 70% d/l!!z

"Born from man-Embraced by God"
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
All I'm going to say about this battery conversation is every phone and person using it is different. What works for some may not work for others. Let's not let this conversation take much more of MY battery time trying to read up on Mik updates.

From a supercharged Evo!!

Projects & Stuff ~~>http://www.mediafire.com/?h9m3o9rmevub7
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Attached are my screen shots from yesterday. The reason it says 4 hours since last plug in was because I had to reboot my phone (which is silly I think, but it is what it is). I ran my phone completely dead last night at bout 9 pm or so unplugged from charger around 6:15 or 6:30 am. I am a heavy user. A lot of facebook, xda app, angry birds, internet, texts, couple of phone calls, etc. Also still optimizing my setup on Cho's ROM, so I did some adding of apps to home screens etc.
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
Because it is fun to optimize the system, and because from what I understand most people AREN'T getting 10-12 hours of moderate to heavyish use. I really don't see any point in having stuff on the phone that I don't use, which I why I believe a lot of people use MikFroyo anyways (its why a lot of people root their phones in the first place, to remove bloat, and it's partly why TB is a top download). But as I said, MOST of the battery-saving comes not from uninstalling stuff in general, but from specifically uninstalling stuff that constantly accesses the network, and from turning off always on data, wifi and data when not in use (the obvious stuff), and specifically from calibrating the batter in a way I haven't seen anyone post before.

Do you use autobrightness? And I was calling people haters who are saying that removing useless stuff (what Mik does) makes the phone "dumb" or "a paperweight" or "no longer a smartphone". In my view, and surely the view of people who optimize things, it makes the phone better.

Didn't mean to stir things up around here...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Hear hear! We're on the same page. I basically said the same thing :).
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Cho! How's Cho v2.5 coming?
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
http://db.tt/eMsrEYV

Here is mine. I change at lunch.

From a supercharged Evo!!

Projects & Stuff ~~>http://www.mediafire.com/?h9m3o9rmevub7
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
It's done. It's in the same link I gave out before. I think its much better.

From a supercharged Evo!!

Projects & Stuff ~~>http://www.mediafire.com/?h9m3o9rmevub7
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
It's out. Same link as 2.0.

Edit: ......ya, I'm getting slow :(.
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
Bookmark "Find all posts by aamikam". ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I don't think that's what he meant. Also, you can't do that on the app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Good deal. I will go back to my PM and redownload tonight and piss my wife off some more and listen to the "Am I going to have to get a surgeon to get that phone removed from your hand?" :D:eek:

Plus downloading the z-port...Good Lord I really need a support group. :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
You guys posting screens, do you use autobrightness and often exceed an hour of calling time daily, without the battery ever actually dying by the time you put it on the charger when you hop into bed?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I don't use autobright but because I choose not to... And no I normally have very minimal calls but am a very very heavy user... Tapatalk more than anything probably...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Thanks, I hit you both up (just 10 more for you jade);).

I guess I missed where he said it was up, last I heard he still had some optimizing and what not to do.
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
OMG lets get off this battery debate! Run what suits your needs as each of us is different in how we use our phones. Enough already.

"Born from man-Embraced by God"
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I do not use autobrightness, IMO no need to...I also don't spend an hour talking on my phone, I might spend an hour talking on my phone in 2 days. Don't like talking on the phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
I'm sure many of you saw this already? but i think its cool!!! :D

http://androidforums.com/2360471-post4375.html

Vid here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS_aQKJ-Zc8

i just grabbed one off youtube but saw another vid that was little better,

i even snagged cpl of the apk files :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I agree but I'm still enjoying this... Nick is just saying "that's great it works for you but that's not what I wanna run" and psd keeps saying "do what I do! Do what I do!! Why don't you wanna do what i do? It's better!! Do what I do!"

This is fun for me... I'm having a fun time

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Agreed! I am sorry I ever responded. My apologies guys/gals. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Hey chogard is version 2.5 better on performance than 2.0?

"Born from man-Embraced by God"
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
We only got one gal!

Edit: localguy... That was cool as Hell but very laggy

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Rofl! That's awesome. And +1 selders.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Oh boy! Might actually get there by the weekend.

Edit: Random fact: This is my 1000th post in this thread. Never would have imagined that a couple months ago :D.
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
No apologies needed from any of us and that also includes you .psd.It was just going on to long.

"Born from man-Embraced by God"
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
have you even tried it? the vid i saw wasnt laggy could of been that dudes phone, like i said i just grabbed first vid off utube.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mijjah74:
+1 on that

sent from my MikFroGard'd htc evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Well I never know with the screen names who's a guy or gal, so I just wanted to be gender equitable. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
Is it reasonable to say that calls and screen brightness use a LOT of battery? Is it an overstatement to say that phone calls are perhaps the most battery-intensive function on this phone? Is it fair, then, to say you DON'T get the "exact same battery life"?

Nice, that's exactly how it went.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Do you guys (edit: people) hear something? Must be me.

p.s. Just playin' psd :p. I think we're done with the battery thing for now though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] .psd:
Battery conversation politely ended, I never expected you guys to take such offense to my offering a unique way of calibrating and I certainly didn't expect you to consider optimizing things as pointless or "dumbing down". If you're getting great battery life anyways, the post wasn't meant for you, I posted it specifically because a lot of people throughout this thread complain about battery life, in fact it's well known that most people DON'T get 10-12 hours of battery out of the Evo.