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[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Yeah my son woke up with an upset stomach so gave him so mylanta for it and waiting for him to doze back off to sleep.

"Ephesians 6:12"
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Sent from my Evo 4G rockin' MikFroYo 4.5!

Mine looks nothing like that. Can you check to make sure your usb connector is making good contact? Out really looks like your connector is going south...
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Well good morning fellow Mikkers!

Did I hear 3.0?

"Ephesians 6:12"
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I am sure this has been answered already but I'm going to go ahead and answer just in case. Go into Root Explorer and go to /cache and delete any download.apk out of there (thanks to Mitchell for figuring that out). I have experienced that the only way to see that file is with root explorer, I was never able to see it with ES explorer or astro explorer. If that doesn't work clear your cache in the market either with TB or in the manage applications area. If it's been answered sorry, I haven't got caught up yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Honestly I've always had pretty good life but with this 4.3.4, it's ridiculous good.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Definitely give it more than one cycle. I didn't post my final stats last night, but before I went to bed (9:30pm), I still had 30% battery left with over 10 hours awake time. I'll update my setup today with what kernel I am running. But if you look I am just running the updated version of the kernel you see in there now.

Here's my a link to my stats that I posted in the afternoon yesterday.

I run setcpu to overclock(1152/245) and a screen off profile for 422max(too much coming from screen off if I go below that/245min and that's it. Everything set to conservative.

The battery that I am using now I conditioned it when I first got the phone in January and haven't done anything to it since. It's the stock battery that came with the phone. Needless to say I am very happy with what I've got going on right now with this setup. I should have just left my phone off my charger last night to see where it was this morning. I'll do that today and see how long it lasts and posts some screens on it tomorrow. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I've never hit 0 mas with SBC. So what I did was just let it charge all night like I normally would then when I woke up in the morning I wipe stats while on charger, rebooted on charger, and then used till it died.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
See these posts here and here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrwright83:
After all this time and with my phone messing up recently I am now getting a Radio Interface Shortage message could some please help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
I highly recommend that you don't let your battery die.

Not that's it's dangerous or anything, but that's not something that's going to do any good with these batterys.

The best luck I had was in doing one of the 2 conditioning methods.

Actually, I do both on occasion.

Method 1 (From HTC)

Charge for 8 hrs, unplug.

Turn the phone off, plug in for one hour.

Unplug, turn the phone on for 2 minutes, turn off and plug back in for an hour.

Then after that I hour, I go to method 2.

Unplug til the light goes off (phone turned off still)

Then plug back in 'til it turns green, then unplug again and do this about 10 times.

Then I reboot into recovery, clear battery stats, and boot to system.

Is this a die hard way to help? I don't know, but while Nick was at 30% after 10 hours, I was at 79%, after 10 hours after doing the above methods, and I used my phone pretty steadily all day to text and make calls.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
That was precisely the method I did with the battery that's in my my phone. Did you run pandora for 3 hours straight and 2-3 hours of facebook/xda app and I had about 45minutes-hour of talk time, texting, some picture/video taking, plus some angry birds?

I've got weather widgets, news widgets, etc as well. Do you have that stuff? Everyone's setup is going to be a little different, ie syncing, display, etc.

Do you have some proof as to why it's bad not to kill the battery or just opinion? I'm not saying it's wrong, I live in the show-me state so if you have some articles/proof of it to share that would be great.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
The EVO during 0% shutoff is about 3.6V. This is way above the safe threshold of 3.0V. I don't think we do any harm running our batteries until the phone won't even turn on.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries

Sent via XDA app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
That's kind of what I thought. I've actually read that it's better to let the batteries run down all the way every now and then. Even for laptops. I know that I've had a laptop battery that lasted like 3 months because I constantly used it plugged in and never let it actually die all the way. Every laptop I own now I run them dead at least once a month.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 4redstars:
each battery in our cell phones or laptops has a finite amount of charging cycles. if you keep them plugged in 24x7 you in essence are killing the battery because with each drain of the battery and recharge you are taking away a charging cycle.

It doesn't happen overnight or quickly but laptops drain a little when plugged in, so then it has to charge back up to 100%, that is a wasted charge cycle.

It has nothing to do with laptop memory effect or anything else.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
And that is precisely what I found out the hard way.
[EVO 4G Android Development] hunterbeav:
Very interesting......I think I'll do a little more research on this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
More info on Evo 3D

Here's another Link

Another link
[EVO 4G Android Development] pschulte:
I've been running Mik for a month or so now and was having problems with my camera last night so decided to do a fresh install.

So I updated radios, factory reset, installed rom, made sure it booted up. Then installed net 4.34 cfs more havs nosbc. I let the battery drain to 0 and then charged it up.

When I went to turn on my phone, it would get stuck on HTC Evo 4G screen. It did those for 15-20 minutes a piece before I'd pull the battery and it did this about 5 times. I wiped cache, dalvik again and then flashed the kernel again and it all loaded up.

Seems with roms, I am always getting stuck on the boot screen like that? Why is that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
When you clear the cache's they get built back up on boot, which is why it takes awhile.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pschulte:
Ah ok, makes sense Nick! Thanks for the quick response.

Also, on net's 3.43 with more aggressive havs, I thought I read do not use setcpu, right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] illtww:
Hey guys. I messaged Mik last week. can anyone point me to the latest nightly build?

Want to reload my phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
No problem.

3.4.3? You mean 4.3.4?

A lot people say you don't need to. I use it to overclock and set screen off profile. But I use the less aggressive and run conservative scaling.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
Actually, there is a few places I've read on here from smarter people than me that running it to 0 is not necessary with these types of batteries. I can find a link on my next break.

You have me beat on the Pandora, and I'm not trying to compete with you anyhow, but I do have a full plate of widgets.

Like I said, all I did was a lot of texting and a few calls with a little internet time.

Still, before I ever did that conditioning thaaang, my phone would be back on the charger in about 5 hours.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
I know this was last night but my phone was doing the same thing on that kernel. I posted in the kernel thread but did not get a reply. I switched to less havs and it seems to be charging more like a normal SBC. Althought I do have the occassional -1 mixed with the 0 mA all night that it is plugged in.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I'm not trying to compete at all, sorry if it came off that way. I just like to see proof, because I don't know you anymore than you know me. ;) I've heard it's best to run them down, but I'm opened minded and would certainly read the other side of the story. In the end though to each their own. :)

Sent from my rooted Evo, where my realities are an iPhoners dream.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
For sure, and as we all know, lol, every phone is a unique creature....

Now, I need to get reacquainted with Sense UI Kernels....

BTW, I did d/l Battery Monitor Widget Pro today, but I have no idea of what I'm really looking at, on the screen shots here, so what do I want to look for??

BTW, I ALSO should say, and this will throw off everything, 'cause I'm stupid and forgot, I'm running the Sedio 3500 maH Battery....

Oops!
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Oh yeah that will make a big difference, I'm running stock battery. I just look at the history and usage stuff.

Sent from my rooted Evo, where my realities are an iPhoners dream.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Verdammt:
I'm still learning this kernel stuff so please forgive me if this has been covered ad naseum, I'm using the 4.3.4-cfs-havs more-sbc kernel and I left my phone plugged in all night and got it down to 0mas, but from there it was a constant -2 to -4 with an occasional 0 or 1 thrown in. Is this normal for an sbc kernel? Shouldn't there be more positive mas in there due to the trickle charge?

Sent from my optiMIKed Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Yes you should have a positive 2-7 or so ma's in there. mdixon had some issues with the more kernel as well. See this post in that thread. I'm using the less version and it trickle charges just fine.

It might be beneficial to everyone if you reply to his post with your experience as well. Maybe some screen shots of your history.

Edit: Like so
[EVO 4G Android Development] Verdammt:
Thanks for the link, I'll take a read at it.

Sent from my optiMIKed Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
See my edit. Screen of what it "should" look like.
[EVO 4G Android Development] madskills384:
Looking at your picture the one that shows up time and awake time just means you haven't restarted your phone in a while your other picture that shows when you last unplugged your phone is most accurate. So it looks like well I'm assuming that you had a full charge when you unplugged so you had 8 in a half hours since you unplugged and now your at 51%. And what do you mean conditioned your battery you mean wiped battery stats?
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
I'm gonna flash Mik's tonight, but my issue is that NetarchyToast kernels just don't do well on my phone. And I've tried every combo, every version there is, up to 4.3.2. After that, I ran CM7 for a while, but now, back on Sense, I need to once and for all figure out what is the problem with the NT Kernels, or find one that likes my Evo.

BTW, even with the SavagedZen kernels in SBC Havs was the way to go.

More aggressive to me means more headaches.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I actually restart my phone daily, because of all the flashing and crap I do, so not sure what all that is saying.

Did you look at my post here? There's a link to a conditioning method that Aaron is using.

It was close to 9hrs, I think like 8:55. I can't see the one I posted here at work but I have it saved in my phone and am looking at it.

I've got another screen where I'm at 25% battery remaining and 17h 3m off charger.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Here's a suggestion for you, gonna suck, but I think it will help you. Start completely over! Format everything unroot, reroot, and then flash. At the very least format your sd card.
[EVO 4G Android Development] madskills384:
From what I read with HAVS you don't need profiles set. Like screen off because they actually fight we each other. Is anyone else using screen off profile?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I think that is true if you are running the smartass governor. I've never had any problems and that's the way I've always done it. I'm testing something now though related to my screen off profile. It just started happening the other day.

My data connection takes about 10-30 seconds to get connected after coming out of the screen off. Not sure if it's related to that profile or the new 4.3.4 kernel. I'm never had the issue so I'm thinking it's related to the kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
lol, actually, I did that Saturday. I've had so many different mods and setups, I was seeing glitches I couldn't get around, so I ran RUU in Hboot, re rooted, formatted the SD Card, and Myn's was the first ROM I flashed, but being a natural born tester, lol, I gotta give Mik's a try, too.

TBH, it didn't really suck. Just added an extra 1/2 hr to the normal flashing process.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ccaudio1:
+1

I had to do that but not because of the battery issue tho, phone just didnt want to

keep any mods. in doing so it seems that my battery life was also fixed by accident :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] madskills384:
Oh yea I'm using smartass governor do you get that much better battery life and performance with conservation?
[EVO 4G Android Development] madflasher:
...depends on how you set up your phone i guess. it has been working well for me past 2 days nets 4.3.4 cfs-sbc-more havs. on demand light to moderate use.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Well I don't know, never tried smartass, are you getting better life than me with smartass?

And like madflasher said it also depends on all the other settings you have going on.

Is that kernel trickle charging for you? A lot have reported it's not. Post
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I love smartass!!! I can see a difference

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] vopwriter:
Ziggy has a new kernel if you are looking for an alternative to nets, found here:

http://www.ziggy471.com/2011/03/19/beta-kernel-18-mar-11/

Also, if your rig does well on AOSP kernels, you can try Tiamat_EVO 2.1.5, which I can confirm did run okay on my mik4.5 ROM when I tested it (*all credit to Coiledwire for that find and post prior to this.) I only stopped using tiamat because mine liked ziggy more.

Either way, give the one you choose the patience of at least 2 charge cycles before a verdict (unless you get a multitude of FC's or excessive reboots.)
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
Just curious on why you think Zigs are better
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Working on all those. I'm trying to team up with JsChiSurf to get her done.

From a Supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Got a couple of sites for you battery and kernel guys....

kernels...

http://home.comcast.net/~evoreviews/

Battery

http://www.batteryboss.org

From a Supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] vopwriter:
With the preface that I can only speak for my own device and to clear up, didnt say better; just offering an alternative for the guy struggling with nets:

My EVO has never really liked havs much and I dont do sbc (just personal preference.) While nets has given my phone slightly better battery, it feels faster performance-wise with ziggy. I dont get the reboot problems some report with ziggy kernels. Although I dont put a lot of stock in testing quadrant scores or MFLOPS, my scores are consistently a bit higher on ziggys. Since I am only a moderate user, I still get 16-18 hrs batt life with 30-40%to spare at the end of the day so its performance over batt for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
Ok thanks ive tired it also since i seen your post and its been great so far i had 1 reboot none sense running 24 hrs now its going well
[EVO 4G Android Development] vopwriter:
Just a couple notes then:

If you picked the havs kernel, be careful using setcpu to avoid governor conflicts (this was discussed in last several pages.)

If you picked a BFS kernel, a few reboots in the first day or two can be normal while it settles into your device. If it continues past two days, you might reconsider BFS and go with the CFS.

Happy flashing!
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
ok yea i did get havs but im using os monitor will that have the same effect as setcpu
[EVO 4G Android Development] quocamole:
i thought setcpu controls cpu frequency and HAVS controls voltage? two different things? how would one conflict with the other?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Also with bfs (don't know if its fixed yet) but there was 4g issues...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Because if your CPU is trying to run low on top of low voltage from the havs then that can cause reboots... And if its trying to run high with low voltage its not getting the power that it needs

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] quocamole:
i get that lower cpu requires lower voltage and vice versa, however, i always assumed that the developer/code of a HAVS kernels takes that into consideration via a cpu freq to voltage table. i.e. setcpu forces specific frequency, kernel will read that frequency change and demand more/less voltage accordingly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vopwriter:
My fault. It was an issue discussed with a governor in the kernel fighting a setcpu setting of something diff (my ziggy kernel defaults to show smartass in OS Monitor, so if I use setcpu to set conservative gov then I guess it can cause problems.) I was typing at work and lost my thought for a moment, sorry to confuse with the havs thing.

I dont use setcpu anymore so I havent experienced the problem firsthand.

Edit: thanks for fleshing it out a bit, Aaron. : )
[EVO 4G Android Development] iTouch24:
i haven't seen any new posts from mikfroyo about 4.6 ... is the project still going strong? ... did he release anymore news on the surprises he was looking to do in this version .... besides just be odex base ROM?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
Last I read he finished the work on the Evo Shift ROM and was switching back to 4.6. He wants to have some of the planned mods and themes available at release.

EDIT: It is spring break right now so don't expect anything for a few weeks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Couple of posts by him.

Post 1

Post 2

He mentioned something about spring break.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rahb0sse:
Seriously, can someone help me out here? I cannot get my phone to sleep. I've flashed and gone to stock everything yet I'm not having any sleep time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Well more info would be great. What do you mean you can't get it to sleep?
[EVO 4G Android Development] protoadies:
What htc music player can I use that will switch to landscape... I have miui didnt switch so uninstalled it what else can I try to replace miks stock music player...
[EVO 4G Android Development] rahb0sse:
Well, I'm on 4.5 with nothing newly installed. I unplug it, check and it's 100% on.. and never sleeps. What type of info would you like? Battery drain is hard... Unplugged it at 7AM, 3 texts sent and it's at 56%.

Hardware 0002, using the new PRI, etc...
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
thats 9 hours lol i agree its hard ! but still 9 hours and with 56% left is pretty damn good
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Well autosync settings, mobile data always on, task killers, etc?

Check this out.

Did you just flash? What kernel are you using and how long ago did you flash it? No different mods, I guess, because you said you didn't install anything else?
[EVO 4G Android Development] rahb0sse:
Dude, it's 1PM here...
[EVO 4G Android Development] rahb0sse:
Stock kernal... I'm reading that site now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
It's good but if that's truly all he has done, that sucks. I'm at 71% after being unplugged at 6:15 and do A LOT more than a couple of texts.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Maikock:
Sense keeps FC'ing on me, i clean installed, wiped cache and dalvik and started from scratch and Sense still FC'd. will wait for next update i guess, unless someone has resolved this issue...been following the thread for quite some time, but i know ive missed a lot as well... havent stumbled upon this...
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
BTW if you create a signature with your set up, that will help out as well, so we can see what all you have done.

Instructions.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Say what? Sense keeps force closing? What are you talking about Mik4.5? What else did you flash? Did you follow the guide in my sig to flash?
[EVO 4G Android Development] vopwriter:
Not to state the obvious, but if fresh install of 4.5 you did wipe data (or factory reset/data) too, right? I only ask b/c u didnt mention it above.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rahb0sse:
updated...
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
PRI 1.90 will cause awake and uptime to be equal or close to it on some phones. Known issue and why I had to go back to 1.77
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Great that helps. One thing like cetac said...PRI, maybe downgrade to 1.77. Try a different kernel, format sd card and start over, just to name a couple of other things you can try.

EDIT: BTW gave you your first thanks for the sig. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
Without going back and quoting everything, I appreciate the heads up on the battery/kernel info.

I actually had Ziggy's newest with VaelPak last week, and it seemed ok. That ROM is pretty big though and could explain some battery drain.

Also, I don't use SetCPU. I just don't know what good settings are and I hate to play around with something that I'm clueless about.

Once I get Mik's on here for a few days, hell, I may not even need to flash a different kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
lol sorry did not see your in CA :P what spareparts saying any wakelocks
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Only settings I change are overclock and set a screen off profile. Here's a guide to setcpu. LINK
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
MSpot, it also works with Google voice commands, ie "listen to pantera"

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] Maikock:
Sense FC

@ vopwriter - i did do a factory wipe as well sorry for not mentioning

the only things i flashed on top of the stock mik4.5 was the mikblue theme and kernel that was said to be compatible with mik4.5. before flashing that i had wiped cache and dalvik.

my gf has the same setup except with the mikpurple theme with the same kernel but doesnt experience the same fc's that im getting. the only difference is that i restore more backed up apps thru titanium than she does.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rahb0sse:
I'm gonna flash to a fresh 4.5, wipe everything, and goto 1.77... I'll update tonight

nick1313, good to see a fellow Cardinals fan... let's hope Pujols stays with us!
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
+1 on the cards fan!!! +2 counting my fiance!!!! And just so you know their will be no need for an update... I bet my EVO that going to 1.77 will fix it... I know for a fact 4 people who I've helped and recommended that to and its worked

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] rahb0sse:
lol hhahahahaha
[EVO 4G Android Development] Verdammt:
Jealous of you Cards fans. Those of is who are fans of the team on the other side of the state have known misery since GB retired. :sigh: At least our farm system is deep.....too bad they'll never be up at the same time or they'll get traded away once they are up.

Sent from my optiMIKed Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jaagee:
PowerAmp is the best music app period. It offers the most for customizing too. Just my .02. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] pschulte:
I reported this problem earlier with net's 4.3.4 more havs, no sbc that it would often reboot and get stuck on the htc evo 4g screen.

It is doing it yet once again, any ideas?
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
Uhhhh, Go Yankees!!

Sorry.....