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[Desire HD General] lampz:
damn O_O

its so hard to understand what to do FIRST O_O!

should i PLUG IN MY DHD On my PC

then I DO One click Radio S-OFF tool

then One click ENG S-OFF

THEN [ROM] Android Revolution HD 2.0.11 | High Quality & Performance | OC | Sense/no-Sense??

SHould my DHD be plugged on my pC while doing the step 1?

i heard about the bootloader.. WHat about it?
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
take it away...LG Optimus 3D hands on!! :D

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/lg-optimus-3d-hands-on/
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Indeed, good move on not using Toichwiz on the tab...
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Scoring 2900+ in Quadrant... 2 5mpx cams, 8gb storage, 3D display and a slightly bigger battery. Hmmm... LG's onto something.
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
For comparison purposes, can someone post their battery voltage at fully charge status?

Thanks :-)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Hey guys. What's a good radio to use for battery optimization? I've been reading around and it points me to 26.04.02.17. Any thoughts?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
My radio seems good, 9-10 hours on very heavy use, almost 24 hours moderate.

Note that I'm overclocked and use 2 launchers with full widgets on each screen... plus I'm using JuiceDefender.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I get the same. Although before upgrading to CM7, i used to get around 30-40 hours.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Ahh, that answers my question... I was going to test CM7 but is torn between Leeroid's newest build. Ill post updates soon after (still a sucker for Sense).

Battery and memory drain are usually caused by exempted/ignored apps in the background which I've grown to live with...

On second thought, I'll hold off flashing till a longer weekend comes along. Restoring apps and settings is such a pain...
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I've found that google actually backs up my apps. When I wiped it, flashed CM7 NB 37, flashed gapps, it automatically downloaded all my apps. As for settings, they're all backed up in my sd card and it took me around 5 minutes for the whole wipe cache, flash new rom, restore backups/apps routine.

I flashed the 26.04 radio and will test it out. I'll let you know what I get.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
I usually do the app+settings+data restore from Titanium and it takes a long while... must be restoring 100+ items needing my permission to reinstall each app. CWM Restore backup is faster and its as if nothing happened (even homescreens and files are restored). I also notice the Google install but market would say that they're partially restored and need updating...

Will watch out for the update mate! Happy flashing :-)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
On another note, what kernel would be best? I'm currently trying out Patched HTC Kernel. It's close to stock with some basic tweaks.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Hi guys, ran into this and it looks like it's worth a try. Trying it now.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
HTC Flyer: 1.5 Ghz Single Core, 1GB RAM, 32 GB ROM, Aluminum Unibody, 1024 x 600 res, Android 2.4 with Tablet Sense. Oh also a capacitive pen.

I'm having mixed feelings about this. Hello Samsung?
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
Its looking good. If "Tablet Sense" can match Honeycomb than I'm all for it. Also, +'s for the Aluminum Unibody.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
New HC phone?

www.androidcentral.com/htc-revolver...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)

Leave it to Android to solve the budget and battery crisis...

m.engadget.com/default/article.do?a...00-solar-powered/&category=classic&postPage=1
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
I've already tried it and found the battery usage better than before when maximizing the internet. On standby or low usage, its roughly the same.

Something I did notice was an increase in speed. Apps launch faster and the phone is smoother. Even the games run better. I am still not sure as to why this is.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
One of the UV kernels come to mind... mine is patched manually but is set to OC, not UV. Not so battery friendly...
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Seems that ads aren't given as much priority with the on-demand trick which are loaded first in most free apps and games. Wont do much if you're using adfree though...
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Please give us your feedback :)

I posted a page back regarding the maximum voltage your battery carries, when fully charged. Can you share this info too if you don't mind :)
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
It could be.

Anyways, I recommend the Tip because you lose nothing with measurable gains. Some websites will show you those "Flash Arrows" but its not even a hassle to re-enable considering you need to select the feature to use it (E.g. playing a video). It doesnt even add another dialog box.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-refreshes-android-lineup-with-incredible-s-desire-s-and-wil/

I'm eager to see the HTC Desire HD2 in action...(",)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
4185
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Indeed... it'll boil down to good habits to make the phone's juice last as long as possible :-)
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
Not much going on there. The Incredible S only looks viable as an upgrade for the Desire. The real problem here is that the other phones from the other manufacturers seem to have a better package.

The Desire S has nothing real to add but Gingerbread and a front facing camera. Again, not worth the upgrade especially when considering the competition.

Wildfire S? Its supposed to be a mid-range phone but most HTC users look for flagship types. I dont think it will sell much.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
yeah..i can agree with you on this one. i'm a bit disappointed too but i'm still hoping we'll see the rumored DHD 2 this MWC. though HTC has announced 6 of it's new line ups...

http://ow.ly/i/8cyH
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Sounds more like mid range flagships. I'll wait for a quad core, 4gb ram, solar powered, 12mpx cam, 3d display, 64-250gb storage capable phone with at least 5 days standby time :-) lol
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
+1

rofl
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Military Grade Protection

For those case "hunters" out there:

http://www.goballisticcase.com/

(just something to watch out for in case they'll release a Desire HD version)
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
+ 2. And whitens your teeth while you sleep.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
lol :D Exactly...
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Thanks, I'm getting about the same value, 4190 :)

Just wanted to make sure my charge is right
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
I usually get an average of 4180-4197 at full charge...
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
CM7, Patched HTC kernel, 26.04 radio, no wifi, GSM only = 8%/hour

I'm gonna go with Leeroid. Can I flash this with CWM 3.0.0.5?
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Leeroid or Android Revolution?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
I'm gonna go with Leeroid on this... Just flashed V2 (2/14/11 via CWM 3) 45 mins ago, apps are still downloading though. Tried previous ARs, performance led me to go back to stock :D Will post back for test results in a few days or so.
[Desire HD General] kafilta:
Hey can anyone guide me through the radio flashing process?? maybe through chatting or something? I've been reading the guides but im still scared
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I have AR 2.0.1 at the moment because it finished downloading before Leeroid. Haha. I'll try it out for a day maybe. By this, "Tried previous ARs, performance led me to go back to stock :D", you mean stock > AR?
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I take no responsibility for whatever happens to your device. Following these instructions is purely to your discretion.

Ok, that had to be said.

Now..

Step 1:

Download latest Android SDK

Step 2:

Download desired radio.zip

Step 3:

Extract radio.img from radio.zip into tools folder located in Android SDK folder

Step 4:

Run cmd.exe (Windows Button + R, Type cmd, OK)

Step 5:

Go to your tools folder in your Android SDK folder

cd (Android SDK folder/tools)

Step 6:

On the commandline type the following:

adb reboot bootloader

then

fastboot flash radio radio.img

then

fastboot reboot

All done.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Nope, sorry, A-ndroid R-evolutions... I see what you mean by it finishing first, I tried different hosts for LD before finally downloading one.

First impressions:

1. Whoa!!! its fast... I've restored 60% of apps and settings and its still going fast. Kernel OC'd to 1497 max and includes "smartass" governor. Might try the Nutter kernel to OC to 1999+ (seems there's no need). My previous OC settings were the almost the same but perflock is not present in the kernel. No hiccups here.

2. Obvious battery management feature is the light sensor, seems to have more steps in brightness settings. Sometimes too low for what I'm used to but I can see the battery benefits in the long run.

3. Custom Window Animations are a pleasant surprise, nothing new to the UOT kitchen but I prefer the stock one. Will flash framework.res from post 1

4. Transparent drawer and notification curtain is a great added feature. Ginger launcher is also an option, no pinch focus for homescreen though but is present in stock launcher. Gotta cook the coveted circular battery mod... (Build is deodexed and zipaligned)

5. Videos and music play well with the OC settings (playing Andy Timmons as I type).

6. 1.72 never felt this fast. Root and SU works... All the stock goodies plus some pleasant extras like the Voice Dialer which actually works with a bluetooth headset (one of the first things I've tried).

7. Its very zippy even with full HTC stock 4X4 widgets which caused some minute lag in 1.32, completely gone here.

8. Try it! :D see if you guys get the same results. Its a keeper. Also compatible with ROM Manager (premium) so it won't be that hard to update to a new version.

I've seen another LD user here, he might be able to tell you guys more or anything different for using it longer. These are my first impressions and will post updates as I use it.

Cheers XDA! :D (gotta hit Thanks to Lee)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Any difference with regards to using CWM 3.0.0.5 and 2.5.1.3?

Also, difference of AR and LD with regards to battery life?

Also with stock > AR? i meant stock is better than AR?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
CWM3 is just an update and is required for newer builds. You'd have to redo a Nandroid backup upon install since the 2.5.1.3 backup will not be compatible. Other noticeable change is the CWM interface color changed to rose/pink from green and the old box with android icon at the back now has the logo of ROM Manager.

I've been restoring settings since this morning and I hardly notice a major decrease. Too early to tell but will test without JuiceDefender on for the next few days.

Yeah, stock 1.32 was better than the ARs I've tried, at least for my settings. LD seems to handle customizations and power usage really well and performance is consistent and just feels put together overall. This is a sense build which is CM-grade fast, if not faster (biased to Sense... lol). Quadrant won't show a major difference but it will be obvious going around the UI...

Hope it helps! :D (must get some sleep)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Thanks. Just flashed LeeDroid. I know you've been using AR for awhile so I'm going to take your word for it. Haha!
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
lol... Glad to hear you're on it too. I'm back. Got to nap a bit. Just some corrections, I was a little sleepy earlier...

CWM3 interface is actually Orange-y in color, not sure where I got rose/pinkish color...

I'm flashing a cooked framework-res.apk not framework.res (cooking now from UOTK)

Build is deodexed and UOT Kitchen might need a non-deodexed one... (will test)

Nutter OCK is only up to 1996 not 1999 :p

Update:

Anyhoo, battery drained less than 10% (generous estimate) while I was asleep. That's with wifi on and sync re-syncing contacts and other accounts. (I read that Lee made wifi perform better while asleep...)

I've managed to produce some FCs with HTC Sense with too much OC-ing... 1497 will sometimes force close Sense, would just reload normally and function properly... (this is with 2 launchers with full widgets and repeatedly swiping to each homescreen and pressing home key... you know what I mean...)

OC set to 1036+ to below 1478 seems to be most stable. I tried the Nutter Kernel and it keeps hot-rebooting Sense even while asleep at 1996 MAX OC. Fact is, I think the build is alright at 1200 and performs more like 1500

Enough of the OC, the attached stock animation zip file will not work on CWM3, this is necessary when you don't like the animations and themed notification icons. It doesn't bother me that much but will find a way to return it to stock without loosing the transparent noti-curtain... (seems its a CWM3 compatibility that needs a different format of scripting for zips to work. Nothing to worry about too much)

There's a known YouTube bug (which I haven't encountered and is not specific to LD, affects most customs) the posted solution is to pause a video, rotate to portrait and exit. Not sure about the whole bug thing but seems it will cause some lag when you exit YT while a video is playing. Will update when encountered.

Everything else works just like stock but way better. Response is very fast and performs consistently well. After continuous reboots and setting up, battery is now at 67%. Note that I charged full before creating a new nand for CWM3 and flashing LD then setting up then a bunch of initiated reboots for testing and flashing the nutter kernel.

So far, recommendations point to keep OC low (or don't touch it at all, it will default to 1036 using smartass, unless your high freq settings do not initiate sporadic FCs. Nutter Kernel is not necessary, only for die hard OC-ers... I'm not yet one of them, fortunately for my DHD. lol

Its benefits cannot be measured via Quadrant, more on the user experience and responsiveness... battery life? looks promising...

Issues: Couldn't get rid of the ads, will hit the books to find out more...

Hope it helps! :D
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
to all my fellow Filipino using ARDHD rom you can try my custom MOD power widget,auto brightness, icon improvement you can flash this using CWM 2.13 not compatible in 3.0 do a NAND backup... waiting for feedback DOWNLOAD
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
LD Update:

-Set OC to 1459 for best balanced performance.

-Set Normal window and transition animation in spare parts (goes well with the new animations)

-Go to the bottom of ROM Manager menu to select and flash older version if you're experiencing zip flashing problems with Froyo builds. Then make a new backup.

-New CWM version is only required for 2.3 ROMs and need to convert zip files for flashing.

-Will post modification screenies tomorrow.

Lovin' LeeDroid... :-)
[Desire HD General] lampz:
wew

finally i have my first rooted DHD! :D

WITH AR :)

coz its my first time.. i think its fast.. :)

but ofcourse for all you users that whos been using roms since then..

well maybe i think all ROMS are good and fast. and stable..

but it depends on the user right?

so lets vote?

on whos the best ROM? AR vs LD?
[Desire HD General] lawrence27:
Ok.. My vote goes to AR. :)
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
Looks like most of you guys already rooted :) Mine is still on stock but tempted to root and flash either AR or LD :D
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
My choice is LD the longer I use it... :D
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
Well, as much as I wanted to I'm pretty much confused with the procedures because I'm new to android. Maybe I'll get someone to teach me hands on :) And 'til then I'm staying with stock :D
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
I'm in the same boat. Stock really would be the more stable one at the end of the day although, testing builds is a lot of fun. Custom ROMs will still have some sort of issues however minor, that's why it keeps on being updated and improved. Devs are putting in so much time and effort in enhancing the user experience and eventually, it boils down to having choices for us diverse users :D

Customs also bring us closer to new features that aren't immediately available from the manufacturer so that's another plus...
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Ice Cream Sandwich anyone?

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17829/future_of_android :D
[Desire HD General] robE9:
There isn`t such thing as the best custom rom but i`l go with Leedroid.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Dude, I can't help but notice in your sig that you have a black DHD? I almost forgot about that... can you post actual pictures of it? Thanks! :D
[Desire HD General] derkie:
.. i also want to see some pics of that black DHD. :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Android Apps

Hi all new DHD users, not sure if ya'll are familiar with this source, not even sure if they're legit or considered warez (I'm sure I'll get be nagged if so...) but seems like a good resource for all things Android:

http://www.bestandroiddownloads.com/

(delete if considered a violation, cheers!)
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
hehehe...don't even think about buying one..dual cores are everywhere :p

well this is what i mean when i say "you can find it online"..though there are tons of sources out there..but, Yes..this is a good start for all our new DHD users out there. :D
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I'm at 1478 smartass for my main. Everything's fast and stable, no FC's yet, 2200 Quadrant, 1.1% per hour battery drain. I used a SetCPU profile to set it at 200mhz ondemand when screen is off.

The 3rd option of the framework at LD's page provides stock with transparent notification/app drawer/personalization drawer. Flash it with CWM 2.3.1.5 (flashed through Rom Manager) or use the .. I forgot the name but it reformats the zip file to a format that CWM 3 can use.

Also it comes with Adblocker, I opened the app and had me update it. No more ads.

Haven't tried YT, i don't YT on my phone much anyways.

Before using SetCPU, I had about 4-6% battery drain per hour. Sometimes it drained fast, losing 2% in 5 to 10 mins with the screen off. So I charged it full and then reset my battery stats using CWM, reboot, it was at 99%, charged it to 100, and now it's 1.1% per hour. I'm still testing though.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Can I use this with LD? Also, screenies?
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Actually, I prefer stock. I had great battery life then with no hiccups even with Wifi/3G on. Also had quadrants of 2000.

I'm trying LD at the moment. Looks promising. Haven't tried AR much. It's too close to stock and with that I'd probably prefer stock.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
New LD Kernel AHHH!!

kernel 2.0.4 ups OC to 1.5ghz

battery consumption 3% per hour

kernel 2.0.4 ups OC to 1.4 ghz

battery consumption 1% per hour

:(
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Yeah, I just wanna see a real one. I had no luck going to the San Lazaro store to check one out. Hope the fella posts good pictures soon :-)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
+1... Stock is like breastmilk for babies :-)
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
I'm down to 10% after 12hrs.

Display consumes 67-70% of battery life @ 30% Screen Brightness.

:(
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
What ROM are you running?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Leave it to HTC to test a much awaited update... Hope DEVs will be on this one for the DHD (I see Lee on the thread as well)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11379272#post11379272

UOT Kitchen is down... :confused: just when I had a great idea for a battery theme...

Edit: Working now... tweaked battery colors a little to match Lee's icons, green-yellow-red (blue looks out of place) and used gray for numbers to be a little discreet (grey to lighter grey as battery goes down). Now I don't need a battery widget on the homescreen. Also using "bounce" window animation, makes the UI experience a little interesting.

Sharing the file for those who want to test it using LD V2

- Stock Android bootanimation

- Bounce window animations

- Circle Battery theme

- will maintain ROM's transparent notification curtain

- flash via CWM 2.X

:D
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Stock ROM 1.32

My display is just consuming so much.

Although set at 30% only.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Hey Jacob. Lee just released 2.0.5 kernel and fixed the sleep battery drain. Nutter at 2016 mhz gets 6200+ quadrant. I'm flashing it now. :D

Edit: Okay so it doesn't get 6200+ Quadrant lol.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
2.016 GHz OC is kinda insane..the smallest heat beyond threshold will trigger a chain reaction and I can just imagine how the processor vaporizes..LOL

kidding aside...i dnt think i want to risk it...can you then tell me how it went after a week perhaps? :P
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I keep it at 1.4 ghz. I only tried 2 ghz for a few minutes. CPU temp went from 33 C to 35 C and stayed there. I did around 10 runs of quadrants. Same result with a 1.4 ghz setting. I put min/max at 2 ghz performance. Phone was extremely snappy though. But I wouldn't risk it. 1.4 ghz is fine.

Also I've read that our CPU's can stand a lot of OC's.

Also, what is the threshold? I put it at 50 C. So SetCPU keeps it from overheating.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
im not really sure as to what the exact value is..i thought someone posted that it's no longer safe beyond 1.8GHz...
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I'm not so sure that's why I keep it at 1.4 hehe
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Thanks for the heads up! Will flash it after I get home. Some idiot rear-ended me while waiting in traffic... He has no insurance and just want to "split" the expenses with me??? Wtf?

I've since removed the battery and custom animation in exchange of flashing the power control notification.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Lee actually posted a disclaimer for the Nutter kernel, same with Kamma's/Apache's Buzz OCK. 1459 makes makes ny phone feel like butter :-) 1500-1996 might be stable with launcher2 or launcher pro, definitely not with sense launcher.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
That's strange... Have you tried the battery trick? Or consider factory reset or maybe try LeeDroid...
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Link to the power control notification please.

I'm using all stock with extended power button menu.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Here it is... Jump to post #497:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=838013&page=50

This will override any notification mods when flashed. This also changes the framework-res.apk a bit so those who cook in UOTK will need to extract the file again after flashing the Power Control.

By default, it will replace the recent apps bar and shows wifi, bt, gps, data, sync and profile but can be changed by editing the "notification_config" and "widget" txt files. Use adb to mount the system/customize/ folder writable to edit the files.

Here's mine with recent apps bar showing and replaced the data toggle to flashlight...

Back up first and enjoy! :D

Update: I found a link to further explain how to edit the txt files through adb:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=877003
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Yes, I've tried conditioning the battery.

Using Current Widget, I am able to get a full charge.

The log file tells me that on idle (screen off/sleep) my phone consumes around 4-6mAH. Ave of 5 but nearing 6 most the time.

Do you think that is normal?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
It shouldn't be but I've experienced such a draw with other custom roms, hardly on stock though. Are you on data plan or have wifi at home that would make it sync consistently while sleeping?

Or it could be that your phone keeps refreshing the mobile signal if you're in an area that hardly gets any. Its pure speculation but I base it on my experiences with the HD2. I used to live in a building with a terrible signal spot. I can only receive a phone call or text if the phone is sitting next to the window so the phone consumes power trying to get a signal all the time...

If you have time to test further, disable auto sync and put your phone on airplane mode while you sleep. See what the logs say soon after...