yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] Lopio:
bought a capdase softjacket expose at sm north today for 800Php, free screen protector but i didnt use the glossy capdase screen protector, i bought momax matte screen protector at trinoma, i hate the glossy one cause its a finger print magnet.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Antennas are in the Sim/Memory Card Cover and Battery Cover.

Also, covering any phone's battery will affect the signal strength. Any phone. Only difference is the degree of degradation.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
@junta

Do you know of any local android community forum? We could set one up and give a new meaning to phandroids.

I mean this thread is nice and all but skimming through the different topics are getting kinda hard especially if this grows.

Well, it's just an idea.
[Desire HD General] kebong:
12k for a temporal feeling of "exclusivity" doesnt sound too worthy to me.

and losing 9-12k being "worth it" just to have tested the two phones is just you rationalizing the loss.

but its your money anyway. ;)
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
I could take a look around but I don't remember seeing any. Maybe we can ask the mod to give us a dedicated section. It's worth a try.

Cheers from my DHD.
[Desire HD General] mikellyuno:
i got my DHD from MemoXpress Megamall exactly 8 days ago for Php 26790. it was an unplanned purchase on my part as i was saving up for something else. but with that price, i just couldn't resist. what i got was the bare-bones package which included the 8gb sd card and 1 year store warranty. i just upgraded from Nokia 5800 so this is my very first android phone and so far i'm loving it. it made me forget (read ignore) the great package that Globe was offering us on their iP4.

i haven't tried doing the battery trick just yet but so far my DHD's battery can last for at least 18 hours on moderate-heavy use (around an hour) of angry birds (my son's been on my DHD like a leech because of this). i play mp3s on it for about 2 hours during my daily commute coupled with a lot of texting, spend 30 mins on wifi checking out apps in the market and syncing facebook and gmail accounts. on the side i do a lot of home screen customizations, tweaking of settings, trying out apps i've just downloaded and an tons of phone calls (thanks to SuperDuo). at the end of my day would still have at least 10% left when i plug it in for recharging. based on battery usage stats, the display's eating up a big chunk of the battery's life even if i only have the screen's brightness set to 30%.

i've read a lot of negative feedback regarding DHD's battery life and i was expecting the worst, expecting myself topping up the batt charge in the middle of theday, but i'm so glad it didn't turn out too bad. i'll try to do the battery conditioning and see if i can get the same amount of juice as junta's.
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
I have a question guys, what program will I download so that I can access my phone via desktop?
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
There is an executable file in your SD card that you can use to install the sync software.

Cheers from my DHD.
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
Agreed. I don't know how those guys who have short battery life use thee phones, but their stories sound rather inflated.

It's nice to know we have a new member! Welcome!

Cheers from my DHD.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
Single reason why I reverted back to Stock is that ARHD's (2.0.14 + Apache14 1.3.0 Kernel) SMS notification acts up sometimes. When you get to read your new message, the SMS notification at the top still remains and won't disappear unless you actually clear it. Sometimes it works and there are times it doesn't. We'll talk about being particular with Notifications..that's me! LOL
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
I think Nutter V3 should work.

Almost the same with 2.0.6 just the ability to up CPU more than 1497 mhz.

Currently my setup is Stock 1.32, Stock Radio, with LD 2.0.6 Kernel.

Came from 2.0.5 with 5-7mah drain at standby, let's see how 2.0.6 will compare :)

BTW

The Beta Kernel won't work with 1.32, at least for me. I had problems with WiFi, went back to 2.0.6.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
Because of my stupidity, I forgot to create a NAND for my Stock Radio..do you have a copy or link to where I can download it? Just for back up purposes that is. :)

Can you also post your complete Radio description via Software Info?

Thanks!
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Cool! Glad it worked...
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
I don't think you can make a NAND backup of that.

Anyway here is my Radio:

Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M

You can get that on Lee's minisite or through his dropbox link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nt7ddio6afj9ler/Radios
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
Right! As what was mentioned by Jacob, you get everything backed up except for the Radio. LOL..sorry about that.

Anyway, I see that this was the very first Radio that came with the October 2010 release of the DHD. I assume this is my Stock Radio too (I really didn't check) since we have the same Software and Build Number..

Thanks again buddy! :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Not sure about radio nand but as I understood it, its one of those things that will survive a restore. Like your radio will remain new even if you flash an old backup. I observed it when I tried AR back a few months and flashed a new radio for compatibility. After restoring/reverting to backup, radio remained new (its still my current radio, recommended for AR and LD, worked well for stock 1.32WWE).

Anyway, here's an easier way to flash radios:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=896597

Here's the radio thread with descriptions:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=877295
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
You're welcome.

It also shouldn't hurt to try different Radios.

Don't let the numbers get in your way, "Newer" Radio builds do not necessarily mean better. From what I've read in the DHD Radio Thread, people are getting good results (Battery, WiFi, 3G, GPS Lock, etc) with the following Radio:

Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF

Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2

Radio_12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M

Radio Thread here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=877295
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Was just about to say that...lol my radio details:

4th January 2011: Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF - HTC WWE 1.72.405.3 R2 - Credits to brolee83

Note: Once flashed, this radio will show up as

12.28e.60.140fP_26.04.02.17_M2 or

12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2

MD5 Checksum: aea59efafc7327000a44ee902046c355
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
Right..my bad :)

Highlighted: my current radio and I can say it's pretty awesome (smooth/fast/stable) :D
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I stayed with ARHD 2.0.13 as well. 2.0.14 has bigger battery drain and no performance improvements.
[Desire HD General] gibovl:
Hello peeps. I just got myself a DHD not more than a week ago. so far so good. I'm enjoying the DHD.

anyway.. I've reading this thread from page1.. however, I've previously used a samsung i5700 [just to try out android and fell inlove] and I want to install a custom rom on my DHD. However, I've been checking XDA and it seems there's way lot of ROMS available for DHD.

I have a few questions, hopefully one of you can answer them..

1. Which of the existing ROMs is the best? [performance and battery-wise]

2. Is there a way to back-up the stock ROM and flash it directly onto the phone [ala ODIN by using a rom image]? [for warranty purposes for any hw failure]

3. What are the steps needed for me to install a custom rom?

Thanks. I have lots of questions to ask.. but those would be it for now.

TIA!
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Congratulations on your new DHD.

Step 1 is always to read read and read first before you do stuff with your DHD.

Imagine and follow instructions and guides in your mind as if you are already doing it. Most of the guides will lead you from one to link to the other. So try clicking on them first so you get yourself familiarized with the threads before you actually flash a Custom ROM for your phone.

As for your enumerated questions:

1. I think the most popular ones are LeeDroid and Android Revolution. (LD and AR).. Oh one more thing, familiarize yourself with the acronyms and a.k.a's because you will encounter A LOT of them.

I'm still using Stock ROM, but I've been lurking on the LD Thread for quite some time and see people jumping from AR to LD. You can ask Jacob and Timoti more about their experiences.

2. Simply to answer your question, YES. (a lot of details behind that YES)

3. Basically these are the preparations needed: (details can be found in threads in the Dev Section) I advise you to follow steps from a thread of your desired custom ROM because some steps MAY differ from one ROM to another.

a. ROOT your phone - gives you access to your phone to do the dirty stuff. (admin mode)

b. Radio S-OFF - allows you to flash custom ROMS

c. ENG S-OFF - allows you to flash Radio ROMS (change the part of your phone which deals with Carrier Signal, WiFi, GPS, BT etc.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Well said PH! Excellent choice on the phone and welcome gib :D
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
Wow...another DHD user. I've used Spica too and similar to odin, there's a sure way of pushing a stock ROM to your DHD. I'd say everything will revolve on your NAND backup through CWM. Unlike Spica, DHD has pretty much simpler way of rooting but the chances of bricking your phone is quite high. One reboot in an attempt to resolve a problem can make you an expensive paper weight. It's not to discourage you or anything but just don't f*ck up your phone the first time you root it. I know you know the risks too since you had spica once.

Wait for Jacob or Tim and they'll surely reply. I want to give you some links to start with but I'm too lazy to cut and paste (away from pc).

Welcome and enjoy!!
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
Update:

4-6mA battery drain with screen off (1% per 2 hours)

Stock RUU 1.32 + ARHD Recommended Radio + LD 2.0.6 Custom Kernel

245 min 1497 max (daily usage)

245 min 499 max (screen off)

I'm just wondering which is a better mode during standby, Smartass or PowerSaver?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Take a break from reading guys...

Atrix, Xoom and WebOS on Jimmy Fallon with Josh :D

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/joshua_topolsky_22311/1301759

Gowing community... What up Steve and Bill???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fqFpq9WXbJo
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
+1 (@gib) he's right we're all here to help you maximize your DHD :D Prepare to have less sleep buddy!

As for links, you've probably seen them posted here since you mentioned that you've been reading from the OP...
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
@redlinux

good build there, bro.

Almost the same as mine, except with Stock Radio.

Keeping mine stock as possible with adding mods one at a time to know for sure where the improvements are coming from (Kernel vs Radio or both)

Good battery consumption too, I say that's about the best we can get using Stock ROM + LD Kenel + Another Radio.

I use Smartass.. I think Powersaver will make your phone run a little slower, because the CPU will be at constant low speed to save you battery.

BTW, Kernel 2.0.6 does not need you to create profile at screen off. Default at 2.0.6 at screen off is 499mhz max.

Please keep us posted with your results. Because I noticed you switched from LD's Recommended Radio (.17) to ARHD's.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
IME, powersave is best on standby but you'll surely experience some lag on wake since it'll slowly move the freq to catch up more conservative than conservative. Smartass is a combo of the best features of all governors (I think its more interactive and ondemand [default governor] with slight powersave) and will gradually move the freqs up at a stable interval on wake (and while using the phone) but not too much to shock your system from low to the high-highs. I read a more tech explanation somewhere from kamma or apache... I'll go look for it.

I found it:

I was on to something but his explanation makes a lot more sense... lol

I just have it on smartass these days, got rid of the profiles and let JD help the battery efficiency of LD.
[Desire HD General] lampz:
hey jacob

.15 ARDH is done already.. and mike is already uploading the file

would you have a plan to chnge to ARHD?

hmm

@redlinux

Stock RUU 1.32 + ARHD Recommended Radio + LD 2.0.6 Custom Kernel??

you using mikes radio recommendation? hmm the 35 or 28e?

LD custom kernel?

so hows the performance despite from the battery drainage?

btw can i know what apps do you have? or howmany installd apps you have in your DHD?

are you using launcher pRO or the standart HTC sense?
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
Thanks..I knew it will run at 499 max with screen off (LD 2.0.6) but I just thought we are still allowed to manage how the 245-499 at screen off is being manage through profiles so I have created a Powersaver profile for screen off only.

I shifted to ARHD's recommended radio since it's the best so far among all radios that I have tested with Stock 1.32. Besides, I think it's only important to follow the recommended Radio when you're using the corresponding ROM for that.

I will try my combo with Nutter Ace V3 next though I'm actually tempted to try ARHD 2.0.15 with Apache14's new 1.3.1 kernel!! :p

UPDATE: LD 2.2.1 Beta Kernel now available

Good point here buddy! :)
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
What do you mean? I thought AR is based on 1.72?

Just a point of consideration, when choosing ROMS, choose the ones released for WWE and not carrier specifics, I think they should be the most compatible for us.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
I've read somewhere that Radio's are compatible with Stock. ARHD is base on 1.72 but their recommended Radios are compatible with our HTC Stock 1.32 as well. Unless you're flashing a kernel that is.. :)

I checked LD's recommended radio and it's WWE alright but it's also the same radio for Orange ES so I thought it would be best to go for ARHD's Radio since it's purely WWE and I have read a lot of confirmed results as well.

LD:

17th December 2010: Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2 - Orange ES 1.75.75.2 / HTC WWE 1.72.405.3

ARHD:

[*] 4th January 2011: Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF - HTC WWE 1.72.405.3 R2
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Not likely, I tried it before and it was good for a time but I totally borked the set up with theming and such and had like endless FCs and B-pulls which led me back to stock. It aint AR's fault, probably just left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm sure it's better now.

I'm just satisfied with the current performance of LD and NV3 at the moment. I haven't even tried the new beta yet and probably have no plans to unless there's a tremendous difference. Or or or, if AR could rotate Sense, that'll make me jump to AR faster than you can say "Desire HD..." lol

I'd like to ask how you guys use LPro? Is it a replacement to Sense or along with Sense to expand the number of homescreens you have? Makes more sense to flash a Sense-less build if you intend to use LPro primarily, or the Sense-less patch in AR right?

On the other hand, I use/d both (actually just decided to remove LP because I remember LD having Launcher2 alongside SenseL) and set LPro in Startup Manager's blocklist so it won't start on boot and won't start on its own until I launch it via secret shortcut on my homescreen :D
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Good to know, all the while I didn't bother to check LD's OP. Turns out I'm still on AR's recommended radio, not LD's... Works out well afterall :D
[Desire HD General] gibovl:
Thanks a lot peeps.. I already have a reply waitin on my pc for your msgs.

Anyway.. would installing a custom rom lose htc sense? Ive grown to love it.. i dont wanna lose it. :(
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
@redlinux

Yes 1.72 DHDS' radios are compatible with 1.32.

I think LD and ARHD recommend the same radio.

12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2 - this is what LD recomends. Notice the "U". This only comes out with the R2 version of .17

which is this one, as you indicated:

ARHD:

[*] 4th January 2011: Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF - HTC WWE 1.72.405.3 R2

:)
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
Yup2x..like you have R1 and I have R2. :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
You won't lose it as long as you're flashing a Sense build (LD, AR etc.) you'll see it on the OP.

Check the original radio thread 3 pages back (i think), it also shows aliases (or will show as...) of the radios... :D
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
Okay..you actually just confirmed that there's no Battery Drain for LD if you're using R2 of the recommended radio. Nice...:D
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
You actually posted it I think..:p

Here it is:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=877295
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Cool...! no problem using a different radio as long as it works just the same or slightly better. :D
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
rotfl... yeah, I did, right? I was remembering 2 others posting it for the same inquiry (your inquiry right? ha ha ha... people here might be thinking I'm crazy for laughing at my laptop) On that note, its probably best to grab some food. Later guys!
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
@red and jacob

AR and LD recommend the same thing :)

except that AR has two recommendations, but at least one of them is the same as that of LD's
[Desire HD General] gibovl:
Thanks for the reply! :) i've already got my eye on leedroid even before I bought my dhd. I'm quite familiar with custom rom as I've done that with my previous phone, so no worries on that one.

1. I've already rooted my dhd via VISIONary+

2. already downloaded and installed ROM Manager and installed CWM already.

3. been readin up on here xda-dev for the custom roms..
[Desire HD General] Schiso:
heyyy everyone. im havng a problem with my camcorder. i tried recording videos a while ago and i cant play them. it says sorry this video cud not be played. whyy?is this related to my rom,kernel, radio or what? help please :(
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Have you done Radio S-OFF and ENG S-OFF?

Before you flash a custom ROM install CWM again via ROM Manager.

From my experience, if you install CWM before you S-OFF and ENG S-OFF, i get an error in CWM Recovery.

Some are having problems with 3.0.0.6, others are fine with it.

Purposely flashed my ROM under 3.0.0.5 to avoid this. :)

Good Luck!
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Have you tried sending the video to your PC and see if you could play it?

LD Kernels have changelogs in Video Recording, i think it may be here.

Did you recently change kernel?
[Desire HD General] lampz:
]

so you think in your own experience..

Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF - HTC WWE 1.72.405.3 R2 is better? :D

for your personal thought
[Desire HD General] Schiso:
Im using Buzz Kernel but im using LeeDroid as my rom. I tried playing it on my pc and it plays. So what should be the problem here? Please help me :( I just noticed it a while ago when me and my friends are having fun and recorded a vid. :|
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
@lampz

I just flashed a new Radio. The Recommendation of LD and ARHD. Which is .17 R2.

Will compare with my stock Radio.

Initial test I did, was the GPS Lock.

And wow, it just blew me away. GPS Lock under 30secs!

@Schiso

Send me the video so I can evaluate further?

Just kidding!

Maybe it's the kernel? I really wouldn't know, never tried other kernels rather than LD.

Did you use the stock Cam App to record or a 3rd party app?

Can you play any other videos you made prior to your new Kernel?

Try playing, so you can isolate your problem :) Before you start flashing Kernels or ROMs again :)
[Desire HD General] Schiso:
the vids were nothing. haha i tried so many times. but still, i receive same error. maybe, ill try nutter V3.

I cannot play the vids i made before. and also the vids ive downloaded like music videos that i can watch before are now cannot be played. maybe ill try to flash nutter V3 to check if the issue is on Buzz Kernel. thanks!

EDIT: I flashed Nutter V3 and my camcorder now works. So the problem is on the Buzz Kernel, ima report it to the BK thread. Thanks for your help though!
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Great it's solved.

Stick with LD Kernels then ;-)
[Desire HD General] lampz:
:D

ill be trying out ARHD new ROM and kernel as soon as the files of mike are ready :D

and ill be testing which and which would i recommend you guys :D

im having spike on LD btw when i am on idle :|

this was my last log that i have saved. im now on fullwiped :D

2011/02/20 12:57:22,-172mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:00:25,-9mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:00:25,-9mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:10:17,-7mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:10:17,-7mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:20:10,-6mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:20:11,-6mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:21:46,-7mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:21:46,-7mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:22:40,-15mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:22:42,-15mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:22:46,-15mA,98%

2011/02/20 13:30:25,-6mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:30:25,-6mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:40:17,-9mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:40:17,-9mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:46:48,-111mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:46:48,-111mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:50:12,-60mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:50:12,-60mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:51:46,-11mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:51:46,-11mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:53:37,-7mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:53:37,-7mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:56:44,-80mA,97%

2011/02/20 13:56:44,-80mA,97%

2011/02/20 14:00:25,-6mA,97%

2011/02/20 14:00:25,-6mA,97%

2011/02/20 14:10:18,-6mA,97%

2011/02/20 14:10:18,-6mA,97%

2011/02/20 14:20:10,-8mA,97%

2011/02/20 14:20:10,-8mA,97%

2011/02/20 14:21:46,-6mA,97%

2011/02/20 14:21:46,-6mA,97%

2011/02/20 14:21:53,-6mA,97%

2011/02/20 14:22:02,-6mA,97%
[Desire HD General] gibovl:
yup.. ive done S-OFF last night then installed CWM. just got done with ENG S-OFF tonight.

already backed-up my

original rom via rom manager then

apps via app monster

sms via sms-backup

done downloading LD kernel 2.0.6

done downloading Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2

currently downloading LD HD v2.0.0

now syncing every accounts (google,htc sense etc.)

now question... should I really flash a custom rom? lol. I'm a lil bit hesitant. I'm fine with the stock rom.. although.. 2.2.1 is indeed better. help me out please. :D

and if i do, should i do a full wipe of cache/data/dalvik?
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
if there is something you should be hesitant about, it shouldn't be the kernel :) lol

I'm still in stock ROM with LD Kernel and LD recommended Radio.

By the way, take note of your backup apps and data..

It's always nicer, though much harder, to start fresh and download apps again on your new ROM :)
[Desire HD General] gibovl:
lol. i meant the custom rom. i was looking through the items i downloaded when i was typing earlier. :D
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Should you really flash? that is completely up to you :)

So far I see our friends here happy about their Custom ROMS.

Testing out between different builds is fun and exciting.. :)

Just do everything right and you will be safe, but from what you've done, anything you do from now is less risky.

How about trying things one at a time?

Like what I'm doing now, Kernel first.. then I just flashed radio today. Still at Stock ROM 1.32.707.5
[Desire HD General] gibovl:
I'm on leedroid now. flashed LD rom, kernel and radio.

:D will try this our for 1wk. big difference on perf.