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[Desire HD General] tingardz:
I think everybody here who has a rooted DHD has ENG S-OFF. To me, it's really a basic requirement. I still think the risk is still the same whether ENG S-OFF or not since you're still trying to replace the radio.

The main advantage for having ENG S-OFF is that you can really play with your setup. Most of us here tried a lot of radios just to find the right ROM and radio combination. Some radios work best for a certain ROM, some radios do not.

I can still remember the thrill when i flashed my very first radio :D it took like forever :D All 25 secs of it :D

I'm not trying to force you to have ENG S-OFF right away, but something you might consider as you move along :)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I use adb. It feels safer. :)
[Desire HD General] tingardz:
my 3 simple steps in radio flashing: :D (with ENG S-OFF)

> adb reboot bootloader

> fastboot flash radio radio.img

> fastboot reboot
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Same here. :) Takes about 30 seconds.
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
Hmm. So do you guys really think i should eng s-off? I don't plan to go radio hunting naman because the ARHD thread already says what the recommended radio is. and I found ready-made PD98IMG.zip files here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1054304&highlight=brick+flash+radio

I read the posts on that thread and it looks like everyone's happy. Theres even one guy that flashed the wrong radio, and I know thats supposed to kill the device, but he was able to recover. I'm so scared kasi when I get my phone, the first thing ill do is root, and flash a radio. I dont want naman na ill brick my device right away just a few minutes after getting it. hahaha :D
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
You can recover as long as you don't reboot. :)
[Desire HD General] tingardz:
Just take your time. Enjoy your stock Inspire first. Time will come when you really need to root your phone already :)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Stock isn't so bad naman eh. That's how HTC phones are. I even reverted mine to stock for a while. The only reason why I root was because wala ako magawa and masaya mangalikot ng gadgets.

But in all honesty, there's not much difference in daily usage.
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
Actually I really have to root kasi Inspire 4G yung akin, so it's locked to AT&T and I can't use it until I root. So if i'm going to root na rin, might as well go all the way and flash a radio and a ROM right? :D

@timoti how will i know if the flash was successful before I reboot? Will it say there?
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Force close dialog boxes start popping up everywhere. :) Anyway there are precautions to do to avoid this:

1. Double check the radio.img to be used.

2. Double check md5checksum and source of file.

3. Ensure that battery won't die on you. (Low battery/Battery pull)

4. Ensure to type/flash the correct procedure.

Sa una lang nakakatakot.. pero sa totoo lang hindi naman nakakatakot. :)

Like I said, ako precaution ko lang is:

1. Double check radio.img to be used.

Yan lang.. kasi marami akong radio files andito.. eh shempre lahat nakapangalan radio.img. Kanya kanyang folder lang sila. :)
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
I think force close dialog boxes would appear using the normal method of flashing a radio right? basta I make sure na the radio.img is correct, I shouldnt have a problem diba?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Like what Tim said, flashing the radio in ADB minimizes the chances of FCs... ;)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Get it now!!!

PVZ for Android is now up in the Amazon Appstore! Its free today only... :D
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
But wont there be any force-closes when i flash with eng s-on, because i'll be flashing the radio through the bootloader, or whatever it's called?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
That's correct, you'll use the commands while the phone is in BL mode ;)
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
thanks.

guys what's RIL? and what's a kernel? is kernel another thing i need to flash?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Radio Interface Library, its the lib files of the specific version of radio you will use. You just need to copy or push the files if your chosen radio doesn't match the corresponding RIL... Link here
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
Thanks.

For all these flashing, is there a minimum size the memory card should be? and maybe its best if I use a branded memory card to avoid read problems?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
I'd say the minimum is 4-8gbs at least. Branded cards just makes sure that the card is of quality in terms of data read/write consistency. There are China made (class A) cards/HDDs that continuously loops and purges stored files to appear to have a bigger storage than it could really hold.
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
I'll just use original to be safe. :)

FAT32 right?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Yup, regular format, not "quick" ;)
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
thanks jacob!
[Desire HD General] b10h4z4rd:
Finally, upgraded my Desire HD to 2.3 Gingerbread!=)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
OTA? Heard it's out in the PH.
[Desire HD General] tingardz:
It has a newer base in 2.37.707.3 too. Got a colleague here with a stock DHD.
[Desire HD General] chardd23:
san ba nakaka DL ng amazon appstore?
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
Not much of a difference with 2.2.1, just a lot of enhancements that's all -_-;
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Here
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Root na ;)
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
hahahaha natetempt na talaga ko, kaya lang medyo magulo pa steps eh yung mga push push nagbabasa na ko eh. Seems I like to try TB or Honeysense, anyone here using one of those?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
TBF saken (TinG din ata)... Si Tim eh naka HS.
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
ROMS siya both diba? hahaha wala kasi steps na nakalagay dun sa thread nalilito ako panu mag flash haha
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Eto muna tapos dito... :D
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
Hahaha I don't know how to back up and then flash. Walang steps dito sa TBF hahahaha
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Honestly, never pa ako nag backup. :) Panay flash lang.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Also TBF and HS are very similar. Themes lang ang naiiba. :)
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
never backed up before? panu yung settings and apps mo?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Pag may CWM ka na and Rom Manager, 1-Click back up and restore lang from RM(actually 2.5 clicks, Backup Current Rom\Backup name\Ok)... :D Parang restore point sa Windows.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Wala.. nirereset ko every time. Yung apps naman sarili na siya nagdodownload. :D Nasanay na ako na ganun eh..
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Hala marunong na ako.. magbabackup na ako. Haha!
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
Okay so it's necessary to back up first before flashing a new ROM.

Pati yung installed apps sarili nag dodownload?

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Bad news, looks like 2.37 is currently unrootable

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1037315&highlight=downgrade&page=15

post #143
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
Ano yung mga masasave niya? All the apps and its settings? Parang backup ng iOS? Is this what you call nand?
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Not really necessary.. but recommended to backup.

Yup installed apps nagdodownload. Tapos pag naka HTC Sense account ka, pati messages and settings.

Pati wifi accounts ko nirerestore eh.
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
I hope the devs can find a way to downgrade 2.37, HTC locked the bootloader...
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I thought they weren't going to lock it?
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
They blocked temprooting, so that means they locked boot loader right?
[Desire HD General] tingardz:
My colleague here with a stock DHD just upgraded to 2.3, reported a vast improvement in battery life. :) And still has no plans to root his phone :D

UPDATE:

New LD kernel 3.1.3
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Yes, practically the same but the difference is you can do this on the phone whenever you wish :D
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Kakabalik lang ng HTCSense.com! :D
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
Ako may plan na kanina eh kaya lang when I checked the devs section I saw na hindi pwede downgrade 2.37 :(

EDIT:

The word already came out "Impossible" :(
[Desire HD General] arvinsheet:
are there any ways to change the background of the app drawer ?? plain black is too lame.....
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
There's a transparent option if you're using a custom rom... ;)
[Desire HD General] arvinsheet:
yeah i have read that, i use ARHD, will it work ?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Some of the Indian guys here were able to do it... ;)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
It should and they must have a transparent app drawer mod specific to ARHD...
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Oo nga eh. Nagdown siya for a week..

HONEYSENSE 3.0 WOOO fully themed Honeycomb :D pati marketplace, keyboard saka xda app pinatulan..

pati yung sense 3.0 lockscreen.. black yung silver ring :D

Well sa 2.0 naman ganun na eh :) performance and battery life yung dinagdag sa 3.0 saka some more themed items..

so ext4 na siya running on lee kernel :D
[Desire HD General] tingardz:
Got to try that soon :D

Can't find the md5 hash though on HS thread.
[Desire HD General] chardd23:
im on ARHD and using mods for TBF(trans noti and 5 app drawer only)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=13751547&postcount=2
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I didn't bother with the md5's :D
[Desire HD General] tingardz:
Jacob, is the clock widget in your lockscreen working? Noticed this on LD as well.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Yeah, all clocks working :-)
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
Hey guys. 2 questions:

1. What does NAND backup actually save? The ROM itself? Or my apps, settings, and etc.?

2. How do i check the md5sum of a file once it's already on the phone? Is there a terminal on the phone?

Thanks
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
- Rom and all settings, apps and data (System, Cache, Boot, Android Secure etc.). Take note that media and documents aren't saved if you delete them prior to restoring.

- It'll be saved in your SDcard under Clockworkmod\Backup.

- Each backup will range from 700mb-1Gig depending on your apps and data.

- Use Astro, long press the file and hit "details" md5 will show in the details.

:D
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
Thanks again Jacob!

So if for example I currently have Android Revolution, and I back it up, the whole ROM will be flashed back when I restore the backup? How about the Radio and etc, is it backed up too?

Where do I get Astro? Sa market?

Parang di ako mapakali thinking of what i'll do when my phone gets here. :D
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Everything will be restored as if you went back in time (with the exception of any media or document you deleted prior to restoring).

Radio and Splash image will not be backed up nor restored though. RIL will be...

Yes, Astro is free from the Market :D

Ganyan talaga :D
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
thanks! So dapat ang order ng gagawin ko is

1. Hack kit

2. flash radio

3. flash rom

am i right? is it wrong to flash the rom first before the radio?

after the hack kit, will there be a rom installed? so that i can check md5sum. and how do I tell what radio the phone is currently on?
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
I'm still waiting for the devs to crack the new version :( jkoljo said it's really impossible to downgrade as of now.. whew sana di na lang ako nag update hahahahaha
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Its not wrong per se, just better to flash the radio first to check if its working first then the rom will follow. You can still be successful with rom first then radio.

Not sure if there's a rom with the hack kit but you'll know if you're flashing a rom or not in the steps.

You can check the radio version under baseband from Menu\Settings\About Phone\Software Info\
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Darating din yan... hindi mo sinubukan yung link na post ko? Some Indians were able to make it work. Not sure if its true though...
[Desire HD General] marvdmartian:
Alright. Thanks!
[Desire HD General] tingardz:
Tsk tsk. I think i need a full wipe for this.
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
News! Htc sensation will be available on 3rd week of month it will be cost 32k
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
Not working, nag hahang lang siya eh hindi na tumutuloy :( Still hoping though, kaya lang malapapit na sensation hahaha di naman siguro mag stop mga devs dito noh.
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
32k only? Wow I was expecting around 38k. It'll be around 30k at CMK, well just a guess :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Good news but I've learned my lesson, I'll either wait for it to go down after a few months or wait for the 2nd or 3rd gen dual (or quad) core phones.

Baka bilhin ko din around December pag na-root na :) or stick to DHD for a while to see what devs can do with the opensense development...
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
I almost got sold for this but I saw another leaked coming out for the rumored HTC Desire 3D (possibly the GSM version of Sprint's EVO 3D). NVIDIA and Qualcomm both announced their next gen SOCs and it sounds very promising!! Also, they opened the Sense UI to the public (releasing the Sense SDK), I guess we'll see some well made 3D Carousel for non-Sense 3.0 models soon. :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Exactly... ;)
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
Yep thats right im also waiting for more months coz htc sensation EU version has lock bootloader.... ill w8 till dec to sale htc phones
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
Hey buddies! :) Is using fast reboot safe? say I set it to reboot daily at 4 am?

EDIT:

Like, will it not affect my alarm clock or something like that.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
It should be fine. Alarms won't be affected if you use the default app or if the 3rd party alarm app is installed on the phone :-)

Apps installed in the card loads slower and might need your confirmation to reactivate.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Dear Samsung,

Please bring the Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 8.9 over and take my money already. It's already yours. Don't wait for HTC to bring something out and get me all confused and leave me not buying your stuff.

Tim
[Desire HD General] armen16:
Yup I got it by my self by sitting the whole day and understanding.

1. Downgrade to 1.32 IF on 1.72/1.75

2. Use VISIONary

3. Temproot now

4. Permaroot now

5. Simple ENG S-OFF

I wont take it for granted. I have to be careful. I'll be getting the phone end of February so I'll take time understanding first.
[Desire HD General] Lopio:
if you will get your phone here in manila, its still version 1.32 so no need to downgrade, if your phone comes from europe theres a possibility its ver 1.72.
[Desire HD General] armen16:
Yeah I had that in mind. Its nice knowing the price keeps dropping lower. The best I found was 24,500 Brand New & Sealed. I know there are lots of new phones coming out soon that's why there are price drops but for this phone and its features worth its price. Unlike getting an iPhone 4 for almost 40k right.
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
From what I van see from CES

11, there aren't too many improvements with phone technology that we can take advantage of right away. Theres dual core processors and 4G but that's about it so I think the DHD is and will be still a top notch phone for 2011.

Cheers from my DHD.
[Desire HD General] armen16:
I agree thanks for the heads up. Also for the DHD clocking to 1.5 its more than enough. But I guess I'll be leaving it stock. Never bought an HTC phone. Going to feel great about it. :)
[Desire HD General] Lopio:
my son just bought DHD yesterday for 24k no official HTC warranty, anyway we dont really need warranty cause we rooted it right after the 1st cycle charge and do S-off and Eng-off and installing CW recovery, the phone is now ready for flashing. and all i have done voids the warranty. ive been using HTC Phone since 2003. so far i havent encounter any hardware problem hence no need to buy the more expensive phone with warranty.
[Desire HD General] armen16:
That's nice. If you don't mind. Can you tell me the steps you did in 1, 2, 3... order. I forgot to state the S-OFF and ENG-OFF can you do it both using the simple S-OFF tool in the forum? Also what are the difference? or having both is better? Thank you. You got it for 24,000 flat or was it a bit higher?
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
you can call it an external source for HTCSense.com; you definitely have to pay for this app since the verification is online and you're credential should match what you have registered in their website. if your phone gets lost and as soon as it's turned off, it will prompt for the password you set the moment it's turned back on. pretty safe and easy way to backup and secure your important files in your phone.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
Just check this in the phone's About Information just to make sure. It'll just take less than 10 sec anyway. :)
[Desire HD General] Lopio:
we got it 24k flat from a tcp seller, actually we bought 2 units yesterday 1 for my son the other for his officemate.

for rooting and S-Off i use this guide http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=857537

for installing CW recovery download Rom Manager in the market and flash the recovery there.

For Eng-off i use this guide: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=835746

If you want to flash the easy way you need both. you can flash any rom using CW recovery.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
i want that 1.2GHz dual core rumored Qualcomm processor!! and i just really hope that HTC will match that with a 2000mAh battery or more!! LOL
[Desire HD General] armen16:
I know. They should do something about the battery I'm still thinking about this phone or the non HD one but this has some more good features that I can't resist. How long does your battery last and how long does it take you to fully charge it?
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
at first it was almost a day..just barely getting there but after the battery tip, i tried that and now it lasts for 2 days and sometime more! :D

and just a tip..when you're fond of live wallpapers and bright screens then you're killing your battery literally 80% of it's life. LOL
[Desire HD General] armen16:
I already read the threads so its okay phew good thing I didn't have to change my mind.

Besides I'll be turning off WiFi, Bluetooth and Syncing so it wont be a problem to me at all. I'll be barely using WiFi and Bluetooth since I got the Smart Bro Plug It Plan 999. I can remove the SIM card and use it on the phone. For the Syncing I'll back up my contacts every month since I don't make friends every single day. Haha.
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
Now I know what's killing my battery.. It's Maps.. I dunno how to stop it hahaha sheez...
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Try to look for Startup Auditor, it will allow you to stop apps from auto starting on boot and keep it from starting up automatically soon after... :D
[Desire HD General] nico_57:
Hi everyone! New user here... :]

My mom told me that she'd get me a DHD as a graduation present, and I'd really like to learn how to root and customize it, etc.

Um, so my question is, is there like a comprehensive guide to the basics of rooting an Android?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Welcome!

Yes, you're in the right place to know everything you need to know about your future Android phone... I'd say you start with the stickies under Desire HD Genereal, it pretty much covers all possible questions you might have.

Welcome :D
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
Especially with gps on. I've tried using maps non stop and it still lasts me more than 8 hours to get the 30% mark.

Cheers from my DHD.
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
You dont need to downgrade if your new phone is ship ruu
[Desire HD General] rockztahh:
hi

i'm planning to buy desire HD by july..one question..do i need to downgrade its radio version?
[Desire HD General] tingardz:
How about the HTC Sensation? :)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I believe the DHD's that come out are still running what we had as stock which was the rootable baseband and radio.

I'm not sure though..

How much is a 2nd hand DHD going for these days?
[Desire HD General] tingardz:
Planning to sell yours? ;)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Sounds like you're buying an iPhone :p You probably meant the firmware/OS... Usually, radios are upgraded for HTC.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Maybe.. wala na masyadong mods eh. Wala narin bagong apps. WP7 nalang para simple hehe.

Or iPhone for iTunes integration.

Or Nokia Flashlight Phone. tapos Android Tablet. :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
+1 on Nokia Flashlight phone :D:D:D
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Hands down the best phone.. ever. My battery lasts for a whole week or more! Tapos yung yellowgreen na backlight? PANALO! PLUS FLASHLIGHT! CANT BEAT THAT!
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Mismo :D Immaculate battery life and ROM doesn't need updating ;)
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
Bad news 3 review na nabasa ko about sa htc sensation signal issue like iphone4
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
Stil thinking of buying htc sensation has lot of bugs and lock bootloader... Maybe i should wait quad core cpu before replacing my dhd phone htc sensation not enough for upgrade based on review and what i read... I want htc sensation cos of qhd using 32bit colors unlike our dhd 16bit color... But im 70%-not buying 30%-buying this phone...
[Desire HD General] mach0boi:
And I heard it has an "anti-theft" image built in? :D You also forgot, shock proof pa!:p
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
With those cons, I'd probably buy it when its in its 20s right around December just for kicks and hoping that it would've been rooted by then. Having said that, since the rumors of the EVO3D GSM isn't dying yet, that's probably a better option even if the bootloader is locked.

I too was itching to get the newer HTC Sensation because of the qhd + gorilla glass + SLCD but it isn't leaps and bounds away from the DHD (unlike the changes from HD2 to DHD).

- Battery life might be better but I've grown to live with it and worked around it.

- Sense 3 is gonna be ported over so no problems there.

- The FFCam is nice to have but not a must have.

- Its hard to live without the root apps IME

- The price will get you a good root-able tablet

I'll wait and see by December and decide. Truthfully, the EVO3D packs so much more because of the 3D content and hardware that will make the upgrade sensible to me. Its the 2nd of the EVO line and the DHD of the Desire line. The Sensation is the first of its kind so the second one might be a lot better :D

The Nokia Flashlight phone is in its 5th gen right? That's probably why its extremely solid :D:D:D
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Yeah I heard Otterbox and Ballistic made the case for it too... :D
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
yep +1 for that

-camera no delay lag

-qhd 32bit color

if htc sensation has rooted and price drop 23-25 i will buy it immediately.....i think htc sensation will drop when htc evo 3D will come... so ill wait til xmas to buy new toy
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
The camera quick capture is indeed a good feature but seems that could be ported easily as well...
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Pwede mo pa lagyan ng acetate tapos palitan mga LED! Old School!
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
If im not mistaking camera no lag feature is in hardware not in software
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Its software plus the processors, yes but not the camera hardware. I've tried the new camera app from the TBF mod section and quick capture works along with other features like panorama, hdr etc... Quick capture (aka no lag) is definitely controlled by the new camera app. ;)

Now the dual core processor will definitely change the game in video recording if that's what you mean. Our DHDs will go as far as 720p whereas the Sensation goes 1080p in terms of hardware capability. :D
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
The

Actually na try ko na ung camera mod but stil d same only HDR is good

OT: any recommend best massage service in manila manila?