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[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
No he deserves to not get a ****ing answer!!! If you dont like the way we do things go GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! Damn us for having personalitys and not just being mindless robots... Douche

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Well the default browser only allows 4 windows possibly for that reason. Maybe get a stock browser apk?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Do you always begin your questions by insulting the local experts?

The main problem is you are doing it wrong.

The reason I think it's messing up something, is that when I do a check in terminal, a2sd check, the app says it's there but not mountable. Titanum Backup also shows it as being there, and every app I move to the SD card (no matter how I move it , TB or Froyo) fails to load after a reboot. Basically I have no method to use the SD card for apps now unless I want to totally convert to Darktremor's A2SD and I don't wish to do that until ALL of the bugs are worked out.

When using a2sd, there is NO NEED TO PHYSICALLY MOVE YOU APPS TO SD. IT IS AUTOMATIC (read the OP - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10454445&postcount=3070). If you are using a2sd AND moving apps manually, you are completely confusing your dalvik cache and the phone doesn't know where to look for your apps. If you had read the OP, you would be aware of this.

Again, dude, do you really expect special treatment when you insult the regulars?

However, you cannot completely disable a2sd. If you want to move your apps back to your Internal Memory from an ext3, you type:

adb shell
a2sd remove
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Pm the name of that app please. Sounds cool but I will forget about.

Thanks man.

From a supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Miko sighting!!

Is it just me, but Mik pokes in one comment and I automatically open both of his medifire folders and start hitting refresh to see if he is uploading 4.5Final or another beta!!

God I gotta get a life! (and yes, the new avatar is an inside joke!)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
How about having the right launcher button mapped to the xda app for quick access? Maybe if I was on my computer I would check mediafire too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Becoming:
Thanks to whoever brought up the sd card speed fix earlier in the thread.

I set that up (with the heap size tweak) and things are just flying now!

I <3 this thread so much.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dallastx:
So still no one has had any problems with apps not updating or downloading period on this ROM? Not using A2SD. I had to switch ROMS after staying up 2 nights trying to figure out why my apps would not download or update. Some will and some want. Angry birds for sure would never download "that's just an example" All others ROMS i tried not one app has failed on downloading or updating. I just love this MIK ROM so much for speed and memory but not knowing if im going to wake up tommorow and not be able to update a app was killing me. Any thoughts?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
As an experiment, try this and see if it doesn't work better and let me know:

In Terminal:

su
a2sd heapsize48

Let the phone reboot and then try updating from market again.

P.S., You said you are not using a2sd. I hope you are not using some other method for moving your apps to sd because that WILL screw up your dalvik cache and make updating all but impossible.

a2sd moves your apps to an ext3 (if you have one). Froyo moves your apps to a secure file called .android_secure when you do an Apps2SD. With a2sd, your dalvik cache will be looking either in your /data/ partition or you sd ext3 for your apps and won't see them in your .android_secure folder, and thus, not update them. They are there, but dalvik doesn't "see" them.
[EVO 4G Android Development] noregretzzzz:
Sorry it's still in beta(couldn't help myself)
[EVO 4G Android Development] DroidGnome:
I'm willing to bet that you have the dalvik moved to your /cache partition... if so that's the problem. Your dalvik is taking up most of the /cache space and the market cannot use it to download large apps. I had the same problem, it's not ROM specific. Basically you need to put your cache back on /data, or increase the size of your /cache partition so there is plenty of space for the larger apps. (Note: Google now allows apps of up to 50megs in the market, so prepare accordingly.)

The first thing I did with this ROM is remove that dalvik-to-cache script.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nck4857:
I seemed to be having that same problem. It seems like I have to download everything twice, the first time it says downloading then does nothing..... I uninstalled a couple apps and they came back, also. I'll try changing the heap size and see if that makes a difference..

Also when I first flashed b5 I had it automatically reboot when restoring and downloading some apps.

Sent from my Evo..
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Basic Rule of Thumb:

MikFroyo works perfectly for 98% of users. If it doesn't work for you, there is one of two issues at play:

1) Your hardware is fracked (unlikely if other roms work).

2) You are doing it wrong (probably this).

This is all just one's and zeroes people. If you are doing it wrong, you can do it right. It has nothing against you personally.

1) Read the OP.

2) If you don't feel comfortable with a2sd and you just want to achieve good solid, basic functionality, ignore a2sd. It has been optimized by Mik to work best out-of-the-box for most people.

3) Do NOT use any method to physically move apps to your sd card (Applications Settings, Titanium Pro, etc) while using MikFroyo. You WILL have problems if you attempt to do so. If you want to have apps on your SDCard, create an ext3 partition (using Amon Ra Recovery) and a2sd will move them there automatically.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Yes, I have read that is a potential problem with having your Dalvik on the /cache/ partition. However, the dalvik-to-cache script only runs on first boot, so moving it back to /data/ with the a2sd nocache command will solve the problem.

Can you link us to the commands that allow the user to increase their /cache/ partition size? I am not aware of those.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DroidGnome:
Wow.. first I'm not trying to insult anyone, but when the ROMs author says to use search and read all the posts before asking a question, i do just that. However this is the ONLY thread I've had to give up on due to the size of the thread, and because many of the posts contribute nothing to the ROM's development.

This is a development thread, not a general discussion about getting laid, unless it's been misclassified. I'm all for a few jokes, but when the thread is growing at over 100 posts a day, and only about 5 are development related, somethings wrong.

I was under the impression (per the OP) that this ROM was a2sd capable but not enabled due to the special instructions that it says you need to do to get it working..

I did NOT do any special instructions, nor partition my SD card, so I assumed that a2sd would disable by default. I'm guessing from your reply that this is not the case?

I Read the post, it says nothing about whether or not A2SD is turned on by default or not. I assumed not since there was reference to special instructions, again as I stated above. I know the rules/procedures of using A2SD vs Froyo but since the A2SD app said that A2SD was not enabled (partition not mounted, and I did not create one) that I figured I'd be ok. Thought wrong evidently.

So to clarify as I'm still confused does this statement:

Mean A2SD is TURNED ON by default, or just that it's supported and if you wish to use it to follow those instructions?

If this ROM (v 4.4) is now A2SD only (Previous versions were not) it should be clearly stated.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Thanks for the helpful post! Just curious, what did you mean removed the dalvik-to-cache script?? You could accomplish same thing by running "a2sd nocache" , correct?? That way, if you don't have ext3 partition on your sd card, all apps and cache's will be in your data partition, just like apps2sd wasn't there (except you still get the advantage of some memory management built into the DarkTremor script that runs upon bootup.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DroidGnome:
Yes you could, however I've tried to avoid A2SD ROMs all together and am only passing familiar with their command. For me it was just easier to remove the script and be done with it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
There is this statement in mitchellvii's guide on apps2sd setup linked in the OP

I don't see how he could have stated this any clearer?
[EVO 4G Android Development] hcu721:
Lolz. Hilarious!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ckoadiyn:
it is a2sd supported and isnt turned on by default only turned on if u use mitchs instructions :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] raybudd:
I might've missed it, but what action do you have linked to your home button and have you tried changing it to see what happens? Just a thought. If this was already discussed then nm.
[EVO 4G Android Development] emuview:
v4.5 beta 5

Just got caught up on my reading for today. Always learn something. Any way to the point.

Report:

Miko I have running 4.5 beta 5 for almost two days now, trying every thing I can think of to test on it, I find every thing works well for me. As far as the being faster than beta 4, I can't tell for sure, but maybe so.

As always great Job!!!

This is one mans opinion about his SuperMikEVO.

PS: Gooday to all my fellow Mikites!
[EVO 4G Android Development] DroidGnome:
OK, previous versions of MikFroyo came in 2 flavors.. A2SD and without.

That post is talking about you how to set up A2SD if you wish to use it in Version 4.4. At least that's how it appears to a new user of this ROM reading the OP for the first time.

The OP on page 1 simply could have said "A2SD is enabled by default in this ROM.. follow this post to configure it". That would have been clearer then pointing to a post that makes it sound like it's an optional configuration. The post itself is great, I've not seen a better explanation, but it all sounded like it was optional.

So I'm now in the process of rewiping and creating a partition so I can get my phone working before tommorrow AM... bleah there went my weekend.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Home is home for me

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
So, 5 out of 100 posts are about development and the rest are useless fluff? Sorry, you just disqualified yourself from being considered as a serious human being.

So basically, you didn't read the instructions in detail, just made an overall assumption then complain your rig isn't working properly? You lack a basic understanding of a2sd. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A PARTITION MOUNTED FOR A2SD TO BE ACTIVE AND MOVING APPS TO SD IS NOT ALL A2SD DOES. Of course, if you had read (as you claim to), you would know that already.

Yes, it is turned on (i.e., "available") by default as is mentioned about 3000 times throughout this thread.

Let me say this in conclusion:

1) You have 1 "thank-you" to your name and you dive-bomb this thread complaining we aren't "serious" enough for you?

2) This is the #1 thread on all of xda for a reason - the rom is outstanding and people who come here get their questions answered without being made to feel like idiots. Why is it everyone BUT you can find the answers they seek?

2) All of the major threads (Myn, cm6, etc) have a lot of friendly cross-chatter amongst the regulars. If you don't like it, don't read this thread.

Honestly, your arrogance astounds me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Sorry to sound like an ass here, wait, no I'm not, you deserve this........regarding the dropbox advert in your signature, whereby YOU also get extra dropbox space (all of us who use it are aware of the benefits of referrals), I'm afraid that violates the following XDA Rules for Members (You can read the whole article here)

Now I'm not trying to get on your "list", just pointing out proper forum decorum (hey, that rhymes:))
[EVO 4G Android Development] Abracastabya:
Still would like to see a version without the power control widget :) or a zip to 86 it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gbhartia:
Hi Mik ! Will these 2 mods (Or similar) be incorporated in your next release ?

[Kernel] Performance - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=889503

[MOD] Data Service Governer - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=888372
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
Thats for DATA Cards and NOT phones.

I'd advise against using that mod till a bunch of people show proof it actually works. People keep pushing this without any proof that it does anything at all. I just dont get it, esp when the link HERE clearly states that "SO FAR, THIS HAS ONLY BEEN KNOWN TO WORK ON T-MOBILE USA AND CANADA BELL... ALL OTHER CARRIERS SEEM TO HAVE THESE FILES JUST BECAUSE IT'S A STANDARD IN ANDROID 2.2.1 AND SEEM TO BE CONTROLLED COMPLETELY OTA UNLIKE TMOBILE AND BELL..."
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mich2Ga:
Hasn't slowed Me one bit... I even put Rips theme on a Phone & it picked up
[EVO 4G Android Development] klymptof:
If I am reading some of these posts right, there is some confusion on the data phrases being used. Does Sprint cap data? Yes, the amount you download is limited to 5 gig per month UNLESS you are paying the $10/month premium fee that all EVO users pay. Then it is unlimited data.

The 5 gig per month is also not a hard cap. If you go over 5 gig in one month, your account gets flagged for monitoring. If you do it for three consecutive months, Sprint will send you a nasty gram reminding you of abuse of service. Again, as EVO owners, since we pay for the "premium data" package, this does not apply to us.

As for throttling, no service provider will ever admit that they limit the data transmission rate. It would be bad for business. Do they do it? Probably. Is there anyway to find out for sure? Only if you can get on a data tower with no other users and run tests, or become part of the company that works in that department.

I hope this helps clear up the issue for some.
[EVO 4G Android Development] loumoli:
I know a lot of people have come to this rom from myn's and i was wondering if some of you could point out some differences that you all have noticed (besides the obvious speed).
[EVO 4G Android Development] 3BeersKen:
If you add apps, please make sure they are uninstallable. The main reason most of us lose the stock roms is to get one without apps we don't want.

Great ROM btw !
[EVO 4G Android Development] bcarter2000:
The beta is smooth as butter. The only thing I would like to see is the 3G toggle back in the power control mod. Other than that, this is a beast. Many Many thanks for your hard work. I'll send a donation as soon as I recover from Christmas.
[EVO 4G Android Development] willsurg:
thus far speed has been the big thing, then of course there are the graphics in the notification bar when opening email or some other program which are kool looking. as for battery life, it is too early to tell for me. My phone did not like the SBC with netarchy at all on myns, but it did love ziggy and stock kernal. I am running just stock kernal right now to see if i can contribute to the beta testing, but will probably flash ziggy's when its done to compare. hope that helps.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bcarter2000:
Can we remove footprints and friendstream? I'm guessing you left them in there for a reason, but I wanted to check first before I screwed something up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] zerowonderboy:
Collin battery tweak

Hey Mik so I was reading Myns thing on the collin battery tweak and in there it said this:

You need 3 things for the script to survive a reboot:

A clockable kernel

An 'import' call for init.local.rc in init.rc in the ramdisk.

Just paste this into init.rc after the "Define TCP buffer sizes" setprops

Code:

# Include extra init file so that the battery tweak will function

import /system/etc/init.local.rc

Proper file structuring/permissions(The update script in the update.zip really does all of this for you)

So for the tweak to stick after reboot I think you need this in your rom do you have this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
wa wa wa. Use TiBackup and remove everything you want with ease....
[EVO 4G Android Development] RedhddOne:
Friendstream is needed to sync Facebook contacts (if I remember right) so im sure that's why that was left in.

Sent from my overly happy Emo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Neo3D:
I don't think so. I've had it removed before and synced just fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tpdtopcop:
where can you get the beta at?? or just not out yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] drslevy:
a few pages back, maybe about 5-10.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
search search search at least. its only a few pages back.
[EVO 4G Android Development] retnuh730:
Yes, having those apps removable would help a lot. I looked at my system processes and apps like mail and friendstream are always running, even though I never configured them. Unless the system relies on them, which you would know better than we would. Keep up the good work, mik!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Drew5150:
been running the beta without apps2sd and its really quick. may try the beta with apps2sd tonight.

what would be the best way to compare speeds? or just go by feel?

this rom has me slimming down on my apps. everything installed with still 223 mb internal storage left :) now to clean out my sd card ;)

question on the 4g toggle in the notification bar. will this work like any other 4g widget toggle where it can mess with 4g getting stuck in the flash on/off mode? if so i would like to see it replaced with the 3g toggle or brightness.

only other thing i have a request for would be for the theming notification bar icons. but you're probably already working on it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
Just install TiBackup and remove them from there. everything app wise is removable if you are rooted.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Your getting thanked for that!

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
chogardjr's theme with live wallpaper

I've said this before, but the Grass live wallpaper really compliments chogardjr's Blue Theme!

Here some shots of how it looks at dusk and dawn.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DroidGnome:
I Wasn't aware of that as I have been using that sig for months and no one's ever mentioned it.... it's been removed.

As for all the rest, I apologize to anyone who felt I insulted them with the original offending post, it was not my intention.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
first let me say that i did not read what other have told u prior or after this post.

now...

here is what i think about the thing u said.

1. u r right... not all the posts are about dev, but thats cuz this thread became like a tiny forum... kinda... people share everything that has to do with the phone not just the rom, so its more fun, and u can learn a lot more.

notice that there is hardly any flaming going around and all the tiny stupid questions get answered.

in my eyes... and i guess others also... any forum should not be strictly Q/A, thats what wikipedia is for.

looking at what i said in #1... im starting to think i should start my own website... but i dont have the time/knowledge to do so yet. (hint to those that might help me with it btw...)

2. feel free to correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the word "support" implies that u can but not forced to use app2sd?

so... i know not everyone is an expert... and i dont expect everyone to get it... but the way it works is that if your device is setup to work with apps2sd... it will... if not... it wont. (the way it's implemented is just like fresh/myn/many other roms has it).

the linked guide will show u how to set it up so it will work.

that basically sums it up for the apps2sd issue.

i hope that clears some things up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Thank you for that mature attitude...I hope aamikam's (the dev) post clears up why we behave the way we do on this thread. It is undoubtedly the MOST noob friendly space on XDA, we are very tolerant here.

However, for many of us, MikFroyo is almost a "religious" experience, and we are very quick to come to its defense! Have a beer, sit back, try to keep up with the incredible amount of posts in here, and you too will soon be "one of us" and jumping in to defend our "holy land"!
[EVO 4G Android Development] suboveryde:
Chogardjr....I am on beta 5 and flashed your theme a couple of times and been running into the same issue each time, I get stuck at either the white boot screen or the mikfroyo boot animation everytime I delete the htclockscreen from system/apps so I can use the rotary lock. I did a fresh install of B5 and then flashed the theme. booted up fine, deleted lockscreen and rebooted and got stuck at white echo screen, battery pull and cleared cache and dalvik and it got past white evo screen but then got stuck on mikfroyo boot animation. Did a battery pull and flashed your theme again to restore lockscreen. I am able to boot up but still can't get rotary lock to work.any ideas? I did clear cache and dalvik before initial flash. Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] xxRAMOTHxx:
Pretty!

Sent from MikyFroyos!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ccaudio1:
i love this thread lol i feel so much at home...
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Ok, guys, have a question here.

There seems to be some debate as to where the cache resides with which the market interacts when updating apps.

It was postulated earlier that this was on the /cache/ partition and thus having dalvik there as well was causing a problem. However, I have read that the market cache is in fact just a folder within /data/, like so:

/data/data/com.android.vending/cache/

Anyone know more about this that can give some insight as to whether having dalvik on /cache/ can hinder market performance?

** UPDATE - Here is a thread that discusses moving your Market Cache to your SDCard to give it more elbow room.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=444294&highlight=market+cache

I'll try this and see if my phone blows up.

To REVERSE this:
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
You do not need to remove the htclocksceen.apk with my rotary mod. I included the deletion in the script so noobs don't have to go off deleting things in the very sensitive root.

My suggestion would be to flash my theme again then reboot and then flash my rotary and reboot. Do not wipe to flash my mods as I also included the wipes in the script to do that for you as it states in my sig just above my theme link. Try that and let me know if you have any problems.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
For some reason my stock charger is jank... Like I just got my 3500 battery so I'm charging it all the way and killing it... Don't think you have to but my lady was at work and were about to-be massively snowed in so why not? But it'll be plugged in and I still will have negative mA... To the point if when my phone finally died I plugged it in and tried to restart it and it died again... Battery monitor says USB plugged and not AC... My fiances moment charger is working just fine... Is it a junk charger now or what the hell?

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...