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[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Start by reading this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10454445&postcount=3070

MikFroyo uses a2sd to move applications to your SDCard. If you have an ext3 set up, it will move them automatically. If you do not, ill will not move them and they remain on your \data\ partition which is in your internal memory.

Your Dalvik Cache also resides by default on your \data\ cache; however, Mik has included scripting in 4.5 that moves it automatically to your \cache\ partition, freeing up between 60 and 120 mb of space on your \data\ partition for apps. Moving your Dalvik Cache to your \cache\ partition does not require an ext 3. Moving your Dalvik to your SDCard does require an ext3.

Amon Ra 2.3 will find wherever your Dalvik is and wipe it.

My suggestion is to just restore your apps using Titanium and see how much space you have left. If it is 100 mb or more, just stick with that and don't bother setting up an ext 3 and moving your apps to SD. If it is less than 100 mb you may want to go the partitioning route, but I warn you, it is a hassle, so don't do it just to do it.

Unless you are low on space in your \data\ partition, there is no reason whatsoever to move your apps to your SD card. It is slower and it is a pain to set up initially.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bo0omer:
I can still go in later and manually move apps to the sd card when i need to correct?

I am not a big app collector anything - just the basics and a game or two for the kids. So probably don't need the space.

thanks for clarifying that AmonRA will find the dalvik cache.

Appreciate your help!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tolo3:
Well thanks, but I didn't make it, just got it EVO friendly. Gave credit in zip comments in flashable and signed flashable versions.

Going to try chogardjr blue theme and then flash beta 4.5. Just got caught up on my reading...
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
If you look at my theme in the OP you will see that it is approved for "upcoming v4.5". The changes I made will not effect what he has done this time around. Unless he says otherwise I made sure I had everything he was doing before hand like the phone, make a call, hit home, hit the phone and see where it takes you. Of course make a nandroid if it was difficult for you to install v4.5 but be worry free about flashing mine at least. I don't know about the rest but he does say "for future releases". Don't feel like living on the edge?

From a supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Also FYI, I was trying to make my theme with the vanilla lockscreen with the AOSP clock routed to the new flip clock but it was too much. So like amikam I will be making a flashable to implement the vanilla locks with the flip clock remap.

From a supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
I followed the guide on how to mod your power icons on the notification bar and I created a widget.txt file (did not see one in /system/customize/) but after this my phone is locked into a reboot cycle (at the MikFroyo logo). NP flashing beta 4 on top of this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
Sweet...checked this mornign and did not see 4.5 v4 up, and apparently it's up now that i'm at work....daggumit...oh wells...something to do when i get home!!!

couple of questions.....

1. since 4.5 beta v4 reverts back to htc lockscreen by default, does this mean we can flash some mini theme on that bad boy?

2. with 4.4 i had my 5 point multi touch according to Dotty (fun little app), but now i no longer have 5 point, only 2 point....i haven't noticed anything different with how i use the phone, just something that's not there that once was....and it bugs me knowing i no longer have it.....is this something Mik may have taken out or the ROM or is does it have something to do with a kernel.....i was using net 4.3.1 cfs nohavs nosbc universal on 4.4 with 5 point multi touch....i'm using it now on 4.5 beta v3 with 2 point touch......please help me understand where my 5 point touch went! 8*(
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
You can try this. It's something I made a while back but shouldn't do anything but put the widget.txt into the right folder. That was the right folder so don't know what went wrong. Anyway no wipe necessary.

http://db.tt/80Ju041

From a supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
If I'm not mistaken the kernel controls multitouch.

From a supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sling:
That would be sweet change everything that's green to red.

Battery icon white of course
[EVO 4G Android Development] strongsteve:
Conversely, If I want absolutely nothing to do with A2SD and partitioning my SD Card.. but I love this ROM, is A2SD going to be easy to eradicate?
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Still thinking about it. I heard a lot of suggestions. Almost a even vote so it is hard to decide. Might just make something simple that only changes things red that is seen on the home screens.

From a supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nygel:
Also a FYI Google maps is not loading the SD card always comes back with an error. This is in the ver.3 beta
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
If you do not have an ext3, a2sd will not move any apps to your sdcard. If you want your dalvik cache to remain on your \data\ partition, just do:

adb shell
a2sd nocache

Other than that, a2sd sits harmlessly in the background and won't affect anything.
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
OMG! Just flashed Beta IV and love it! I am just amazed at how well this rom works! Now trying to get my wife to let me flash this to her Evo. Using Launcher Pro and at first wasn't real enthused by it but after taking the time to mess with it, I am thinking about trying Calkulins Sense removal zip. Has any one tried this and how do you like it and what are your pro and cons of doing this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lurkerdownbelow:
Dang it, lol, tried to help out by quoting Mitch and he beat me to the punch. This is a great forum with unbelieveable support from just about everyone. It's refreshing to read almost 800 posts with almost zero sniping/trolling/asshattery.

My wife just got a EVO shift. I'm hoping Mikfroyo can be ported over when they finally get a perminant root for it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bo0omer:
Ya - me want to know as well. Anyone run the sense removal tool on 4.5b4?
[EVO 4G Android Development] strongsteve:
Thanks. BTW.. I flashed Caulks remove sense like you suggested and I definitely notice a speed increase. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
after flashing any of Mik's ROMs i go back into recovery, flash net's kernel because my evo loves his kernels, reboot, then i flash calks remove sense zip and run launcher pro plus all by itself...i love it! i have noticed that even using launcher pro alone, with sense still installed i get worse battery life...remove all of sense and batttery life is amazing now!

pros - battery life

cons - none, unless you just need sense based widgets....but if that is the case, pay the 2 or 3 bucks and get launcher pro plus and you get your sense like widgets, only better!
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Cool I appreciate the response. I baught Launcher Pro Plus as I do not believe in using the "pirate sites" as each of these developers took the time and patience through trial and error to bring us these apps that they deserve to get paid for it. After all if $ 2.99 is going to break me then I need to look for another job! LOL! Thats just my feeling on it. Going to try Calkulins removal zip now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rrr1986:
can someone bring me to the betas

Sent from my evocalypse x
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
ok, you're new, we get it, i was new once as well...i'm still new when it comes to the scene, but i learned to read at least 10 pages back before i asked questions...it's not hard, just skim for key words, you wanted the betas, i honestly believe a link was posted literally 3 or so pages back....not trying to be mean, but some people take offense to stuff like this when it wasn't too far back your question was answered....plus, if you're this new, maybe sticking to the final releases would be best for you....
[EVO 4G Android Development] doorpz:
Yeah drive down to post 810 or take the bus to any post by mitchellvii and it's linked in his signature.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
Can you confirm if calk's remove sense also removes friendstream and Peep?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bo0omer:
BETA LINK

http://www.mediafire.com/?s2626qbxr0lch

oh i remeber when I was new..... wait i stil am!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
nope, they are still on my phone...it takes away the files related to the sense launcher, that is all....some of the apps that HTC provides stay on the phone unless Mik or some other dev take them out of the ROM....
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
ya me too, but i also needed to learn how to search and read....if we all just gave answers to people then they would never add to the discussion and help others out...i am still new, but i give some advice and help others out now....all of it was because some thread troll chastised me for asking a question....turns out he wasn't a troll, but merely someone who was helping me out using their method of tough love

edit - i'm actually quite surprised Mik hasn't added the link to the OP yet...it's not as if it were secret knowledge anymore...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdefran:
Any one having trouble connecting to wifi after updating to the latest beta? After turning wifi on I receive, "unable to scan for networks"...
[EVO 4G Android Development] bo0omer:
ya i hear ya. that's why I end up reading page after page of this thread every night! Like a good book. I learn a ton just searching for answers to my questions.

BUT - I think this forum has a crappy search function.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
totally agree you about the search....i usually end up just reading through an entire thread, every couple of pages anyway, because typically three or four people quote someone and answer their questions...this thread is really useful anyway for so many things other than Mik's rom....the mikfroyo community is probably the best group of flashers on xda...not to hate on the mynions or anything, but there are so many of them and a good deal are just plane rude....mikkers on the other hand, pretty good guys/gals....always eager to help, or advise firmly....i read this thread every morning to keep up...at home, i typically play on the xbox or spend time with the wife...at work, i surf for 8 hours a day....lotsa time to read up on this thread!
[EVO 4G Android Development] suboveryde:
WiFi working good for me..using the beta 4..jumped on a few just to make sure
[EVO 4G Android Development] Helton566:
No problems here worked like a champ as always. Keep up the good work!

Sent from a place far far away!
[EVO 4G Android Development] nck4857:
I'm just starting to use Launcher Pro and think I'm ditching Sense, also.. Are you guys using the optimized LP from post #1, or just the market one?
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
I am using the one from the market and I just flashed Calkulins Remove Sense zip and man there is a definite increase speed, I love it now if there is a notable increase in battery life I will be back in love again!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
We are flexible enough to perform asshattery, we simply choose not to...
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
+1

Yeah, that used to be kind of a buggy script but I think he improved it. I knew that having no sense would eventually pay off.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
I also use the market one, haven't had a problem yet....i know it's a long shot, but i'm hoping one day we get a MikSenselessFroyo rom...haha....how's that v4 treating you guys? I haven't been able to flash it yet cause i'm at work, and it's driving me crazy!!!!!

edit - just noticed, i'm a senior member now!! woohoo!!!!! no more junior mints for me!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ooxteme:
To all ditching sense, is there that much of a noticable difference?????

Sent from my MIKFROYOIZED EVO!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Welcome! Time to trade in those shorts for a pair of "Big Boy Pants!"

(sorry, I know I promised to only post useful info, but couldn't pass this up, sorry:o)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Yes, I would say so.

The primary difference you will notice is the speed in which app/widget lists appear when adding an app/widget to your desktop, populating of your Gallery, menus, etc.

** To state the obvious - only ditch sense if you are using an add-on launcher (LP, ADW, etc.)
[EVO 4G Android Development] doorpz:
I know somebody else posted it earlier too but my list populates instantly when adding an app and I'm running 4.4 w/ sense. The gallery does take a little while to load all the pictures but I have over 600 pictures and it's done that on any rom that I've ran.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
Cool then it will not cause the constant sync issue. applying now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
i noticed a HUGE increase in speed and some battery life increase when i dropped sense...it seems like the sense launcher is always running something in the background that chews up resources and makes LP lag....once i remove it, LP runs smoother than ever...i'm loving my cube transitions! i have always hated sense and most likely always will....i love aosp, but why buy a phone and then limit what features i can use based on software, not hardware.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
To give you an idea just how much weight Sense adds to a rom, MikFroyo which is about as slimmed down a Sense rom you'll find, clocks in at about 160+ mb. cm7 an AOSP rom clocks in at around 75+ mb (or about half).
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Man I am loving finally not getting in trouble for having no "Sense"!

Sent from my "MikEvolized Evo with no Sense"
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
Just flashed beta 4 and I noticed that I lost my circle lock. Setting it in the little app then rebooting does nothing. Going to try flashing the CL zip and see what happens.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Because the new circle lock was causing issues for people using older themes, Mik took it out and went back to the standard HTCLockscreen.apk.

However, you can still flash the various locks Mik offers here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10000814&postcount=2
[EVO 4G Android Development] blockhead428:
I especially love that line.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Nice font if anyone wants to try a new one:

AvanteGardeBook:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/bd0n6l463vw3v1s/FontPack-AvantGardeBook.zip

See attachment for how it looks:
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
....nvm.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] ooxteme:
Sounds great you sold me on it!!!!!! reminds me ofmy old TP2 days!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tyler.durden:
Lol, I tried it after reading your first post about it. Pretty cool and thanks for sharing Mitch!
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Here is one of my old wallpapers I dug out of my files I thought I would share.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] ooxteme:
ok ive searched every which way for caulkins remove sense and have had any luck. any help?

EDIT: I found it!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bo0omer:
oh oh....

Flashed sense removal on 4.4 and it fried it. Boots up but buttons don't work, can't move around... can hear stuff going on - emails coming in and phone rings but navigation is all but dead.

The only thing i had installed on top of 4.4 was the vanilla lock screen and the stock froyo theme from mik.

Any ideas?
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
its here i just downloaded it maybe 5 or so pages back sorry i cant be exact someone will repost it guaranteed lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Did you do a backup first? Cause if so you can restore your rom.

2 nd did you wipe cache/davlik-cache first then reboot then go back into recovery and flash Calkulins removal zip? Thats what I did and have had no issues.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nck4857:
I just flashed the Sense removal and my phone wouldn't boot.. Luckily I had a Backup from last night... I downloaded the file on my phone and didn't wipe anything beforehand, so it's probably my fault.. I guess I'll try a little later with a wipe and a better download....

I'm on 4.4, by the way..
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Um, assuming you were using an alternative Launcher (LP, ADW, etc) when you removed Sense? Do not remove Sense if you are using Sense as your launcher :). It won't work because you, um...., removed it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nck4857:
Yeah, I'm using LP... I'll download it on my computer and wipe everything and try it later..
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdefran:
With sense removed, I'm assuming it's safe to delete the rosie settings apk?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bo0omer:
i was using whatever the default was with 4.4

I rebooted into recovery, wiped the 2 caches and then flashed the zip

Mikfroyo is a sense rom right? So how would i stop using sense first?

I want to install 4.5b4 and then remove sense - what would the steps be?

Thanks for the help!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
please tell me you have at least downloaded LP on your phone so you have a launcher installed....the phone won't boot without one....

also, make sure you wipe the cache and delvick...i've never had a problem before....hmmmmm....
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Lol, ok, the reason your phone doesn't work is because you deleted its "Launcher". The Launcher is the thing which creates the user interface when using an Android phone.

Do this:

1) Wipe your phone.

2) Flash MikFroyo 4.5 Beta IV.

3) Open Market and download "LauncherPro".

4) Click your Home Button and select LauncherPro as your Default.

5) Reboot.

6) Run the Sense Removal Script.

7) Reboot.

8) Now you can run your phone using Launcher Pro (I recommend the paid versions, LauncherPro Plus - it's worth it).
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
ok, flash 4.5 b4....reboot! it will take time....

DOWNLOAD LAUNCHER PRO AND MAKE DEFAULT....YOU MAY WANT TO DOWNLOAD HOME SWITCHER TO HELP YOU OUT....

reboot into recovery - wipe cache and delvick 100 times (jk, twice is usually enough)

flash calks remove sense

reboot
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
i guess you don't need to install home switcher and make it default since you will be removing sense....i just do it in case there is some random doodad that wants to look for sense since it was the last created default....
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
yup, you are a person of greater intelligence than i.....i didn't even know you click the home button to select launcher pro!!! thanks for the heads up!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Not smarter, just more information.
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
At least it isn't like another rom out there that has 8 or 10 different launchers in it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
ok guys... isee u have somethings wrong here.

DO NOT FLASH OLDER MODS ON TOP OF 4.5 BETA 4 UNLESS YOU ARE READY TO HAVE SOME POSSIBLE BUGS !!!

if u want the rotary lock screen all u need to do is to either remane the htclockscreen apk to htclockscreen.bak

or u can simply erase it using adb or es file explorer.

the rotary lockscreen is built in but not set to work by default.

all mods will be updated once the final version is out.

p.s.

as a qick note for saying sense slows down the system... thats kinda obvious guys... more apps more things that load at startup, more things that sit in mem, more apps to list when u go to app drawer, etc.

what u wanna do as a general rule is use a program that will kill processes u dont use from starting and also make sure u dont sync things u dont want to sync.

also, delete ALL apps u dont use (yes even keyboards etc.), all are safe to remove besides friendstream apks that could cause sync issues.

i hope that will help u guys get better batt life also... cut it should.

i can make a slim rom for all of u... but since what u use and what u dont is kinda personal preference... u see how i cant really do that.

i suggest u guys use es explorer in root explorer mod and simply delete everything u dont use from the system/app folder.

if u dont know what a certain apk is DONT delete it, a quick search here in the forum will give u guys the list of whats safe to remove and what not and also what each apk does.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bo0omer:
Uh, doh! No launcher - that makes sense (if its not removed!)

You guys are great - thanks for all!
[EVO 4G Android Development] nck4857:
Ok, I wiped both Caches and flashed the Sense remover and it seemed to work.. I had to redo all my widgets, though, which was kind of a pain in the ass...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Helton566:
This should be put on page 1 or post 3. So people will know the answer before they ask. Who am I kidding they will still ask. LoL

Sent from a place far far away!
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
yes... they will still ask... but this is a tip... and i dont think beta should be on the front page anyways.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
Mik, i would be ever so in your debt if you dropped a senseless version of MikFroyo on us with your optimized LP has the only installed launcher! that is about as slimmed down as i would ask of you...i can delete my own programs in the es explorer....
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
i dont even think im allowed to put LP on a rom by default... but, i will opt the new LP when i get a chance... and ill consider the offer.

here is the thing though... everything i do is kinda multi themed also... so because i theme sense apps... everytime u will flash a theme... wall the sense stuff will be back.

u kinda see where im going with this.

the best sol. here would be to use calk's zip and make sure u have LP or any other launcher installed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] scott500:
Just wanted to drop a note of thanks. Flashed this today with the stock sense theme (i'm weird but I like the stock look) and this rom is outstanding!

Smooth...fast and stable. Everything works perfectly on my 003 hardware.

A quick question, is it possible to remap the "+" key on the home screen to act just as it would if it was stock? Or change the symnol to to something relating to the web?

Just wondering if it can be done before I go on the hunt to actually do it.

Thanks again!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Thedonk13:
i was curious if you were going to tackle the new LP....glad to hear it's on your long ass list of stuff to do...haha...we are so spoiled!! i always have a good copy of calks zip on my sd card just in case i wanna flash one your themes....
[EVO 4G Android Development] doorpz:
So I just wiped, flashed to 4.5 beta4, installed LP, flashed remove sense zip and started restoring some apps but when I went to restart after uninstalling some apps I went into boot loop and had to restore back to my 4.4 build. Anybody else have issues like this? LP was up and running fine after I removed sense, i just uninstalled the stock email and mms app then went to restart and that's when it freaked out. I think i'm probably just going to wait until 4.5 final before I try again, I'm pretty happy with my 4.4 build so far but I do like to keep up with the latest and greatest.