yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k1mu:
Using AppBrain, which installs them from the market.

I was hoping to restore data for a few apps using Titanium Backup but can't get that far.

I also tried using Rom Manager to fix permissions but the system doesn't stay running long enough for that to get even part way through.

I'm going to wipe and reinstall 1.4. If that doesn't help, restore the nandroid backup of 1.3.2.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
If it makes you feel any better, it took me about four attempts before it installed right for me - and I tried it from both ROM manager and manually through Recovery. Don't know why.....but Good Luck!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k1mu:
Reinstalling seems to have fixed it. I wiped data/cache/davlik from recovery rather than relying upon Rom Manager (or the Magnolia install) to clear stuff.

I also installed the green circle battery indicator from 1.3.2. I haven't done that yet so it may well be that installing that was causing the crashes. We'll see. :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drtomc:
Very Subjective Kernel Test

First, congratulations to all who survived today's Apocalypse.

In case anyone is interested, I compared three different Kernels on my Incredible. I ran each kernel on successive days until the power usage went down to about 15%, then took down the stats. For each Kernel I charged fully, then installed the kernel, wiped battery stats and used as usual. Light phone and internet (wifi and 3g), music, some calls. Not heavy use, but each day I tried to use it approximately the same way.

Day 1.

Stock Kernel that came with Magnolia 1.4b

Battery Use: Up time: 13:47:13, Awake time: 3:08:43

Day 2

Lou's #8

Battery Use: Up time: 19:51:39, Awake time: 3:24:38

Day 3

Chad's Incredikernel 12232010

Battery Use: Up time: 18:22:23, Awake time: 3:46:42

Of the three kernels, Chad's felt the snappiest. There weren't any huge gains in battery life, some, but nothing earth shattering. I am sticking with Chad's until I hear something better.

If anyone wants more details, I also captured the information on battery use, just thought it was too much to include here.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Detoured to a GingerSense Beta ROM for a few hours. Came right back. :cool:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wamsille:
I like using Magnolia as a daily driver but over the course of several days the phone is noticeably warmer (to the point of hot) compared to the times I'm running other builds and kernels. Since no two phones appear to have the same "sexy" results with any ROM, I just go with what works. Magnolia on my first Incredible ran just fine, I wanted Gingerbread though. On my refurb it just doesn't play nice with the flash for some reason.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MyronW:
Yeah, me too. Once you get used to stability, constant white screens and delays are too much to put up with. It was fun, but I have to have a working phone, not a blinking techno-toy! :p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erik1213:
Is anyone running the 1.4 Beta having problems with getting facebook pictures to show up in the text messages? It shows up fine under contacts (well "people") but nothing in the stock messaging app.

This wasn't an issue under 1.3.2. If I go back to it, even a fresh install of 1.3.2 everything works fine, however 1.4 Beta gives me the problem every time.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I have been running the beta since Steve released it. No problems with the Facebook application. I get contact pix in messages and the rest of the app.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Me, too: no issues at all with FB pictures. Just the last couple of days I've had some spontaneous reboots and problems accessing gallery pictures. Very weird.

I'm wondering if it is a holdover from flashing the Gingersense ROM (despite SEVERAL full wipes!). I'm thinking I'll experiment a little more then RUU back to stock to see if it gets rid of the problems when I come back to Mag 1.4
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Ruu' ing successfully get me working after my failed attempts to get onto 1.3.2. I'm beginning to think it is the only way to go to get a true wipe.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erik1213:
Strange. Any idea why mine won't show up? I've wiped several times now. It's not a huge deal it's just annoying because I'm so used to having them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I don't know, but let me make a suggestion, just for the sake of experimentation.

The only issues I had with the beta was that when I was getting updates in Android Market, I would occasionally get reboots. I accidentally discovered that Titanium will let you reintigrate updated apps into the ROM. When I did that, the reboots stopped and 1.4 beta has been rock solid since.

I believe the Facebook application is included in the ROM, and I am fairly certain it has been updated since the original 1.4 beta release (not when I posted it, but when Steve released it to his testers.)

Perhaps if you check in Titanium (under batch operations) there is an option to reintigrate Facebook. If so, try that and see if that fixes it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
In accounts and sync, are you set to sync with facebook?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Also flashed the 4th beta of GingerSense Remix. Very attractive with some nice features, but neither GPS nor Gmail worked, so I am back on Magnolia 1.4 beta less than 12 hours later.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Yeah, I'm keeping an eye on the Speedy Uber Gingersense ROM, but so far it isn't anywhere near a useable quality level for me. Test driving Nils Business Sense Z the last couple of days, but I think I'll be back to Magnolia 1.4 by this evening.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MyronW:
I flashed 1.4 a couple of days ago, and it's been rock solid. No issues.

Any word from Steve? I was thinking about him earlier today- my MIL had cataract surgery this afternoon and that brought him to mind.

Steve, if you still pop on here, please know that you are missed and your work is still very much appreciated. I hope everything is going well and that you continue to recover.

Best wishes-

Myron
[Droid Incredible Android Development] BSquaredB2:
I read the thread today about Nils Business GingerSense. It sounds pretty good. Has anyone given it a try?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Yes! I just flashed it this morning. I did not have any of the issues with GPS that I encountered with GingerSense Remix Beta 4 (I followed Nils' instructions for getting GPS to function); I did not have any issues with Gmail.

I am in the process of restoring my apps via Titanium, but I have already: (1) restored Exchange; (2) restored Google account; (3) established contact with the HTC Sense HUB (yay!) So far, at least, it seems stable enough to work full-time.

I would prefer not to comment too much further in Steve's thread about another ROM, so if you want more info, check Nils' thread (or PM me). I do know that if I hit any bumps in the road, I will be right back here waiting for Steve to push ahead with Magnolia.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
I've given up on all the other GingerSense ROMS and am also focusing on Nils. Waiting for the next update, though. :D

And I, too, will be hanging here in the hopes that Steve returns in perfect health.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] BSquaredB2:
I agree and I am faithfully waiting for 1) Steve to get well and 2) to see what other great things he has for Magnolia. Thanks for the info though....sometimes I get that new ROM itch!

Sent from my pimped out DInc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Thanks

Nils Business Sense, huh. OK. PLEASE report back if you hit bumps in the road though.

I am actually taking a more zen approach than I did before. If Ginger releases for the Incredible, I will see if RMK is doing a Virtuous. If Magnolia is still sitting, that will be my move.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I know rmk40 is intimately involved in the leak of Gingerbread for the Incredible, in fact, most of the "leading" Gingerbread developers credit his release of the image file for boot. I expect that he'll update Virtuous for the Incredible accordingly (and he hinted as much on Twitter). But I also know that before the hiatus, Steve was also talking about integrating Gingerbread into future Magnolia releases.

There are inherent bumps in playing with a new ROM. Much as I like Nils' Business GingerSense and will give it at least another day or so...."testing" Magnolia 1.4 beta was a walk in the park by comparison....and I still keep a Nandroid backup of it on my sd card for when I finally lose patience.

EDIT/UPDATE (3rd time....): I keep coming back to Magnolia 1.4 Beta when my test ROM frustrates me, like now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] PhillyCheez:
So far so good. I just flashed this on my friends inc.

One Problem though when customizing....

I first flashed the lockscreen option... Perfect

I flashed the Colored Icons, Appfolders - Browser zip and it worked perfectly.

Then... I flashed the blue circle battery and it gets stuck in boot loop... any ideas?

I have tried it multiple times and same issue.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Don't use the Circle Battery mod here on xda-developers; you will get a bootloop with Magnolia. Use the UOT Kitchen to compose the mod; it will work better. If I had my old zip file from there, I'd send it, but I don't, sorry.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] PhillyCheez:
Thank you for that.

OP should probably note that and take off the zip file on the first page.

Awesome ROM from what I saw. Been using athena for the past 5 months and it was just so stable I stuck with it. got that itchin to refresh my inc though. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
If you are using the 1.4 Beta that I posted, you should not be using many of the 1.3.2 mods, such as the circle battery.

Meanwhile, for those who are tempted by Gingerbread/GingerSense, as I have been, a couple of observations.

1. The JSChiSurf notification pull down menu is easier to use than the new Sense pull down menu which has two tabs, one for notifications and the other for "quick settings," except it's a long drop down menu with stupid choices like sound on OR vibrate (but not both). Plus many of the GingerSense ROM's don't seem to be able to get the GPS toggle on that menu to work, although they do finally have GPS working.

2. The Sense 2.1 lockscreen is pretty cool, but you can do something comparable on Magnolia (and other Froyo ROM's), but you can't use that fancy lockscreen to silence the phone like you can in Froyo. (I suppose there is a way to do it, but I never figured it out).

3. More characters are fit on a screen in Gingerbread (i.e., the resolution is smaller), but for eyes older than a half century, that's not a "feature," it's a bug.

4. Rosie is far more unstable in most current GingerSense/Gingerbread releases than it is in Froyo, and far more customizable in Magnolia right now than Gingerbread ROM's. In the ROM I was testing, if you modified Rosie to rotate to landscape, you lost your lockscreen settings.

5. Gingerbread ROMs take up an enormous amount of memory, and you will constantly be getting low memory messages until you realize that: (1) you can't install as many apps; and (2) you have to move as much as you can to SD. Yes, the old \data\data problem is gone (the only definitive positive feature of the update I have encountered), but the lack of memory space because the ROM is so fat is highly problematic.

You will note if you look at Gingerbread/GingerSense ROM threads here that the developers keep struggling to "shrink" the ROM.

6. Having AppFolders linked to my app drawer via the Rosie is far more important to me than the new app drawer in Gingerbread/GingerSense.

7. The new Sense widgets are interesting (the flip clock actually flips, but I'm seeing people mostly complain about that as a wasted animation), but I really don't use any Sense widgets now, so I don't know why I would suddenly start using them.

In short, I'll keep checking out Gingerbread and GingerSense, but I seem to keep coming back to Magnolia within a couple of days.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
I'm right there with you. Test driving Hybrid PureSense 3.0 since late yesterday afternoon. It will get a workout today and we'll see if it is up to Magnolia standards.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RyanTX:
LOL, #5 - not even close. I have not once, ever seen a low memory warning on CM7 or MIUI. I have zero apps on the SD card, and 46 on the phone's memory. I have 244MB of free RAM right now, not sure about physical memory though. Developers try to shrink the Gingersense ROMs, not the Gingerbread AOSP ROMs.

Also, the resolution is no different on GB AOSP ROMs, only Gingersense.

So I think your beef is with Gingersense ROMs, not GB ROMs.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Good to know, thanks for clarifying. Thing is, I like Sense, so I've never even considered the AOSP ROM's.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parcou:
Using 1.3.2 company requires a pin for exchange...The pin keypad is like a white-ish gray not very nice to look at. Is there a way to make it black or dark like the original OEM rom?

Thx
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parcou:
I installed the mail remap today and it works fine...just not a ever nice looking mail icon...

HTC Mail: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22769554/Map...f_htc_mail.zip

on post #3

I have one that I used on my old rom that has no color just white. I a newbie and don't know how I can get the icon I want within the zip file. Is this something I can be instructed on to do easily?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ohredwood:
Well, havent heard anything from Steve or his wife in a few weeks, that can't be good, one might assume his health has either declined or not improved, or his Magnolia work is not destined to continue, either way, not good. Steve, hope all is okay with ya pal....

Russ
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
The UOT Kitchen has icon sets you can flash. I've used it for the circle battery icon on Magnolia 1.4b.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parcou:
Fam,

I am going to flash this kernal: Chad's Incredikernel what I researched it stated do the 2.6.32 12/23 since I have 2.2 Froyo

My question or asking for a link...if I don't like it can someone post the stock kernal I am using on the current 1.3.2 rom here. I did a full wipe so I assume I am using the kernal packaged with it...

Pls...I am a newbie so guide me if I am work...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Here's a list:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=866736

But I bet you like Chad's; it's near perfect for me. Good luck!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Business GingerSense 6/12 Update?

Has anyone tried the latest update to Nils Business Gingersense, from a couple of days ago. It seems that he got the internal memory mounting problems resolved for everything except music. Would be interested in hearing if that is a good ROM to move to. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
I've tried it two or three times as it has progressed, and keep coming back to Magnolia 1.4. Since this is my work phone, EVERYTHING must function and function well in order for me to change ROMs permanently. I'll probably give it another try in a day or two, just for fun. I just have yet to find the advantage in moving to GB, though.

I am no expert, and I have also tried most of the other GB sense ROMs as well but, IMHO, Nils' is the best Gingersense ROM being developed at this moment in time.

I think I've seen where fellow Magnolia alum hgoldner is running that ROM....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I am, indeed, hanging with Nils for now, but have hit a few snags here and there which have returned me to Magnolia (which is why I list both in my signature).

I might have made a mistake last flash, but I am traveling now and don't want to reflash until I get home. If that doesn't get rid of the gotchas, I will restore my last Magnolia.

Sure would like to hear from Steve.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
+1. Hope he's doing okay.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MyronW:
I, too, have been running Nil's BSG 1.4. It has been pretty smooth, but a couple of apps that I would like to use don't work, like Netflix and wireless tether.

I PM'd Steve a few days ago, but he did not respond. I wasn't expecting a response, and if I were in his shoes, I wouldn't be overly concerned with responding to strange messages either! I really hope he's getting better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Playing with UOT Kitchen. For Magnolia 1.4, did you upload your framework-res apk, or did you use something from Kitchen's list?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
rfarrah, I pulled the one from Magnolia and uploaded it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
No posts for five days ... Sigh.

Just wanted to say bye to everyone on the thread. I have settled on nils business gingersense as the next best rom.

Steve ... I hope you get better, and thanks for your hard work on the rom.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
I agree that Nils has the best GingerSense ROM at the moment. I ran it for another couple of days earlier this week. For me, it just didn't feel as fast and as stable (though much better than my previous trial) as Magnolia 1.4. Came right back here again.

+1 on your comment to Steve.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I have been on Nils' Business GingerSense 2.1 since Monday and for now it's home. Funny thing is, it feels just like Magnolia on Gingerbread with more advanced Sense features.

And regardless of whether Steve advances Magnolia, all the best for a full recovery.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ohredwood:
You know, thanks to the last couple of posters on Steves Magnolia Rom, I have been following u guys on your thoughts on Nils latest, and I had pretty much accepted that this next week on my days off, is when I was gonna pony up and do it, lol. So thanks hgoldner, rfarrah, jdmba for beta testing Nils out for ME, hahaha. I'm actually still running Steves 1.32 because the beta took a while to come out since he was out, and by the time I was gonna download it, I thought, hmmm, sure would like some ginger something, but maybe Steve will be around to cook it for me. Anyway, I just been holding off for that and I see with Nils I got some work to do, looks like I need clockwork 3.00007 or something instead of my 2.9xxx something I have had for a while. Radio 2.x something, I haven't jacked with my radios ever, so I got work to do if I wanna eat ginger.

With all that said, Steve, I've enjoyed your work, I'm hoping you get back in the mix of things here, but even if you don't love to hear from ya as to your health, we enjoy your work and effort but are even more interested in your health, if you are okay, take care.

Russ
[Droid Incredible Android Development] edbro9:
Call me crazy but I still check this thread daily. Hope springs eternal
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erik1213:
I do the same thing. Still hoping...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
+1; and I still see occasional comments in other ROM threads along the lines of "boy, if we could just see the Magnolia touches to this ROM......."
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parcou:
I do too....I just came here from Virtuous and he stopped developing. Those on his tread say this is the best match so I changed to keep with a developer updating...

It's a nice rom I really like it 1.3.2 is what I am on...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ohredwood:
Yea me three!!! Unfortunately I'm sadly coming to the conclusion that since it's been several weeks since an update from Steve's wife, I'm gathering that this rom/project will be obsolete, which is a major shame. :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kushdeck:
mirror:

http://dev-host.org/4d0gule2wivs/Magnolia_1_3_2_Full.zip

-deck
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Nice, thanks. Might want to host the beta I posted above with Steve's permission in Post 1761.

Your own ROM looks interesting....checked to see if it had TV Out, while learning that none of the Gingerbread Incredible ROM's have it (yet).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
i wish steve came back. we need some of his love in gingersense and 3.0.... feel better steve.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
+ (another) 1!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ecltech:
Another good ROM to Try

I've been running Magnolia for a while and tried a few Sense 3.0 ROMs but did not like them much. Kept reloading Magnolia. I recently tried Skyraider 4.2 and I have to say it's a pretty polish ROM with some nice features. If anyone is looking for something new with stability like Magnolia, give Skyraider 4.2 a try. I've been running it for a week or so and it's pretty stable and works well. I'm not a fan on Sense so I removed most Sense apps. I normally use Launcher Pro but started using Go Launcher and I have to say the combination of Skyraider 4.2 and Go Launcher works well.. I'm sure Go Launcher works well with other ROMs. Just passing along my experience if anyone interested.

For what it's worth, Magnolia 1.3.2 was on my phone for a VERY long time. Steve did a pretty good job on the ROM and everything worked, stable and not have to load any custom kernel to get things working or to save on battery life/etc.

+1 for having Steve back! Hope he's doing well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Mmmmmmyello

Hey All, I am back (for real this time). My peepers are back to "normal" and stable (Yay!). I am WAY out of the loop in terms of what's going on, and I have been using my wife's (gulp...) iphone for almost two months now. The thing is so ridiculously simplified it has been easier on the blurred vision (it has some strong points, music/video, etc.). Anyway, I am switching back to a real phone now (Incredible) while waiting for a new HTC 4g phone to be released by Verizon. Sooooooooo, I am thinking about making a new ROM based on gingerbread sense with my usual aesthetic touches/features. It is going to take a couple of weeks, but I thought I could open up the beta as I go and make it a group effort.

I am not sure what the interest is nowadays in Incredible ROMS made by yours truly, but I would like to start again, so please let me know.

To those who have voiced support, thank you so much, and to those who have left for other ROMs, I obviously understand and hope you will be willing to try out my new efforts.

Now I have to look at all of my PMs that have accumulated (d'oh...).

Anway, nice to be back, I hope to have something out this week (BETA, maybe even Alpha). Need to hit up some fellow devs and get up to speed.

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
Ihftp leaves and Steve comes back! Awesome day for the incredible!

Change roms like I change underwear.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] edbro9:
Welcome back. So happy to hear you are better. I would love to see you continue developing for the Incredible.

Sent from my HTC Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Yeah, big names going to their own forums. It is a trend that started with Dutty way back when, I think... I wish them luck, all of those guys (and particularly ihtfp69 in my case) are awesome and taught me what I know in large measure...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Hey Steve, welcome back! Although I've moved on to MIUI for the time being, I will definitely test drive whatever ROM you put together; you do such high quality work.

Glad you're feeling better!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] intersysx:
So good to see you back! Looking forward to the magic you make happen - with a Gingerbread/ Sense 3 ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Thoss:
My thoughts exactly. Welcome back