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[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
No.. Give me 2 min...

Edit: alright it was faster...

http://db.tt/qljWkBG

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Thanks aaron, when I get home I am going to check this our and also add new "Team Mik" to my sig.

Into the darkness "Van MikZoid" shall bring light
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
....Thanks....
[EVO 4G Android Development] jedarojr:
Are there any other variables?

Only thing I cab think of is you changed something else, or the new cover allows more air?

My battery heats up more when I use it more...cools when it sleeps....made no difference what battery I was using.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Verdammt:
It did come with a new cover. I have the white Evo (just had to be different) so I had the glossy cover. This new cover is, I'm assuming, like the black Evo cover with a softer matted feel to it. I got it off eBay from Laza if anybody wants to take a look at it.

Sent from my optiMIKed Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] madskills384:
How would you know if the phone is actually sleeping when the screen is off? Also if you are using setcpu and you have a screen off profile at 245-384 how would you know if the feq. isn't going over that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] raybudd:
Thanks Aaron, I hit da button!
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Woot Woot!!!

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sim-X:
Wireless Tether Not Working...

So I'm not sure if it's something to do with this Rom or if it's just my phone or what. I installed wireless tether and it appears to work fine. I am trying to connect it to my ipod touch. The touch sees the network right away as soon as I enable tether. However the evo doesn't give the touch an ip address even though the touch shows it's connected to the evo. I don't think the touch supports ad-hoc connections. I have tried the latest version of Wireless Tether from the Market as well as the	Wireless Tether for Root Users 2.0.8-pre1 *** EXPERIMENTAL *** version. I thought wirless tether supported infrastructure mode but it doesn't look like it is doing it that way.

The Sprint hot spot works just fine with touch, fires up right away no problems. I wanted to use wireless tether since the sprint hotspot can't share 4G and I heard wireless tether can.

Any ideas?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
For the first, go to settings > about phone > battery and compare the awake time before you turned the screen off and a couple minutes later. If it's sleeping the number should have stayed basically the same as before (give or take a little).

As for the other question, I'm sure there's an app that can track that but it may end up keeping the phone awake by monitoring, making a never ending vicious circle. Also I don't know of a specific app off-hand but OS Monitor may do it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Use this version from Chogardjr's mediafire folder: http://www.mediafire.com/?nya3s9vsv8yha73

Edit: And be sure to uninstall the version you have now first.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
This is gonna sound kinda obvious but as long as your phones not flying through juice while your not using it (one guy left screen off 4 hrs and lost like 11%... That's bad) and as long as your rooted (I know stupid and obvious) there should be no reason your screen off profile isnt working... Get battery monitor widget to make sure your mAs during screen off are low and that will pretty much answer both questions

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] madskills384:
thanks, do you or anyone else have a link that explains about mAs? or could explain I been hearing a lot about this like wit sbc kernels it should be at 0 when you're at 100% or so
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I don't have any but what sbc does is charge it past 100% where as normal kernels stop at 100% so you get a FULL charge and don't get the really bad 10% drop off the charger... For my phone to really hit 0 mAs takes about 3-4 hrs... Do it takes a while and some people have even had it only go.as low as 4 mAs... I like battery monitor because.it graphs everything and let's you know everything about ur juice and what ur using and how much while your using your phone and same thing with sleep...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
You may want to look at this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=876590

And this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=894880
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
I knew you would come up with at least one link. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I wanna see him bookmark page... Seriously... I bet its HUGE!!!

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] Theghostwolf:
You can do it with a couple of hex edits. It really looks good. I can't remember which files need editing right now. I will check after work tonight.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sim-X:
Wow thanks & thanked your quick. It definitely synced right up 1st try. I can share my 4G connection now however I did a speed test on both the evo & ipod using the same server. The ipod speed test are coming back about the same as the 3G tests. Maybe a little higher on average but usually no more than 2megabits that it will peak at then fall right away. (I tried a couple different wi-fi channels & shut off encryption during tests) I have good wimax signal on the evo consistently getting over 6+megabits downstream on the evo itself. Upload is capped of course so that doesn't really matter. So I guess getting it working doesn't really do me any good if wireless tether can't share a good 4g signal.

So thanks for the working tether now but will prob just stick with sprint hotspot since sharing 4G doesn't seem to be any faster. How come the market & latest experiential version don't have built in infrastructure mode? Is the version you posted special to this rom or something? I was hoping the newer version would have better 4G speeds.

So did they remove infrastructure mode in the new versions? Why would the old version do infrastructure and not the new?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jstn76rs:
Not sure if this has been mentioned but there is a working netflix apk in the evo general forum.(not sure how to post links from my phone)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
It's a modded version made for the vaelpak ROMs which allows for this ROM to tether over 3g. Unfortunately, there is still no fix for the lack of 4g speeds.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I don't even know if I have those 2 bookmarked but I knew what I was looking for on google :D.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Way to avoid the statement....

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] ReFLeX135:
Woooow... in 20 minutes I drained 10%... I've done ALL the fixes.

Just came from Rooted OTA Stock ROM from like Sept 2010 and this thing is seriously draining. I changed to Net's Kernel too, hasn't done anything. (the above image is on Net's)

Did I forget something, or is this ROM just a battery hog?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
I just added jade to my bookmark list. keeps mine nice and clean and can still find the info I need at a later date! ;):D
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
How do your awake and up times compare? Maybe flashing PRI 1.77 will help.

Edit: You can use the link in my signature to get the 1.77 PRI
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Got a link? ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
I can't share. You will get over worked that way.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
:( :mad:
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I'm not sure what you wanted me to say, but I'm not going to screenshot my bookmarks list to show you if that's what you were looking for :p.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ReFLeX135:
Thanks. Forgive me, but I'm coming back here from a time where PRI wasn't something that could be updated. Can I just load it and flash, or do I need to wipe anything? Also, why not update to the latest PRI?

Edit: Oh, and sleep times are totally fine, but when its on its draining.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I just want you to admit you have a "link" problem!

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I don't see the problem.....:cool:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sim-X:
oh ok. I will just stick with Sprint HotSpot then until/if there is a fix. So what exactly is a vaelpak rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Not as good as Miks!!!!!

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine....
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Just know that if you want to use 4g and tether at the same time, you can't use the Sprint Hotspot app. Also, if you are using a laptop and don't mind plugging in, I would recommend wired tether (http://code.google.com/p/android-wired-tether/downloads/detail?name=wired_tether_1_4.apk&can=2&q=). It works on 4g and gives 4g speeds.

Regarding VaelPak, you can find the thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=983227
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sim-X:
Yea that's why I was trying to get wireless tether working so I could tether4G to my ipod. I tried hotspot with 4G right when I 1st flashed, didn't work. I'll keep the wired in mind if I ever need it for my laptop. Thanks

So why did VaelPak need a custom version of wireless tether? Wireless Tether said it supported evo in infrastructure mode, what exactly changed in the rom that makes it so that doesn't work with the market version?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
If you must know, I found this quote from vaelek himself in his forums which answers that perfectly. If you understand it, that is. I know I sure don't :D.

Edit: Found it here: http://vaelek.com/index.php?/topic/111-wireless-tether-fixed/page__view__findpost__p__764
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sim-X:
Ha, well at least it's a good explanation. Technical difficulties I guess. Thanks for all the help!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
You are most certainly welcome :).
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Some phones like 1.77 better than 1.90 (looks like most hardware version 003's and below unless you have a version 003 with the new camera). Most version 004's don't show much of a difference. I have 004, and flashed the older 1.77. It got maybe 2-3% better battery life, but signal was worse. I'll live with the 2-3% loss for the better signal. My phone sleeps like a baby however, and loses very little (1-2%).

Did you just flash the ROM and kernel? If so, it will take 2-3 full charge cycles for you to get the most from your battery. Also, running the screen with auto brightness will consume a lot more juice, than running it at about 25% (which is still plenty bright to see in sunlight). 1 setting that will obliterate your battery is having "Always On Mobile Data." This will leave the 3G radio on even when the phone is sleeping. With it set to unchecked, the mobile radio will turn off 5 minutes after screen off. Your phone will still get all emails, texts, and notifications.

One other thing you can do to enhance your battery life greatly is to condition your battery (which HTC recommends). There are 2 methods, and you can use either 1. The 1st is to fully charge your battery, and once fully charged, disconnect the charger, wait for the green light to go off, then reconnect the charger until the green light comes back on. Do this 10 times, and you should be set. I used this method up until yesterday with excellent results. The other method came from Coiledwire here on the forums (make sure you thank him if you use it), for which I will post a link from aaronw143 (be sure to thank him as well). It works a little different in the method, but I have been getting excellent results from his method as well.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12081683&postcount=20071

Least but not last, you will NOT find a faster, smoother, themed ROM than MikFroYo! I came to MikLand right when 4.3 was out, and with every version, you say to yourself that it can't get any better, but each and every time, Mik somehow pulls it off! You will also not find a better community than here. Not only do you get help very fast, but the conversations are awesome (hey Cetac, thanks for making me wake up the family last night after I read your taser post!).
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Which means PUSH his THANKS button! He has button envy and wants to feel tingly inside :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I said no such thing ;). I am an admitted Thanks-whore though......:cool:
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
And you've got a bookmark list equal to all of ours combined! :p

Link master!

Edit: Thanks-whore List-Master :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
LOL...yeah
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
Good write up Hemi, i didnt know about the 3g thing, just have to remember to turn on to use web or anything else?

Also can that be added to the PW drop down maybe take away the flashlight and put turn off 3g there will that work?

EDIT- it is there in PW but its not the one where you uncheck Always on Mobile Data, so i just have to keep going to Menu/settings and uncheck it there :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
I always turn it off in the PCW when I'm not using it. When I have time to check it....I just turn it on. It takes all of 2 seconds for it to turn on. Doing this saves me a LOT of battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ReFLeX135:
Thanks for the info about the PRI. I do have 003. I had already done all of what you have stated for better battery that's why I've posted, but thanks for the double check! I also did that battery trick when I first go the phone around June 2010. Would it make a difference to do it again?

My previous ROM (Rooted OTA #2 I think) has lasted me over 6 months and the battery life was fantastic after doing all the fixes. The only thing that I've changed is this ROM, and now I have extremely poor battery life.

I have not done a full drain and recharge cycle, let alone 3. I did do this ROM flash then did the kernel so I'll give it a go. Also just updated all the PRI, NV, Radio, and Wimax to most recent except PRI to the suggested.

When reading the battery what mA's should I be seeing there? Is there a "wow that's high - def something wrong" or anything?
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
is it the same then in PCW and in menu/settings wireless networks? in my PCW i have 2 arrows up and down so its the same i can use that to turn off at night when i go to bed and still recieve txt,emails noticfications?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Nope. The one in the PCW completely turns it off.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
I am not sure about the arrows...they look different depending on the theme or rom your on. If you turn the mobile data off in the PCW you will not get emails but texts are done through the cell signal. If your charging at night then you shouldn't worry about leaving it on.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
The name could use some work. It doesn't exactly roll off the tongue......
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
Yea when i ticked the arrows the 3G was gone
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
No. I never touch my 3G radio button. I want to receive my emails and notifications... What I am referring to is:

Disable "always on" mobile data. This is one of the biggest battery savers. Go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks. Tap "Enable always-on mobile data" to uncheck the box. I haven't found a negative consequence of disabling this feature, as Gmail and other apps/functions still work perfectly.

Chogard is correct however, that turning off the 3G radio will save battery as well. I am 1 of those types that hate to turn off features I pay for. I for 1 never turn off my wifi, even when not using it, and most of the time, leave my bluetooth on as well. I still can go 2+ hours of screen on time, and get over a day of battery and thats with my phone getting emails every hour, gmail as sent, facebook updates every 6 hours, many texts throughout the day, and 1-2 hours of phone calls. Sure my battery would be even better with me turning wifi off when not needed and the same for bluetooth, but to be honest, most of the time I forget.

Like I said about the above, basically what it does is turn off mobile network 5 minutes after the screen turns off.
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
Ok so when will i have to turn that back on? or are you saying always leave that unchecked?

and from what your saying i'll still recieve txts,emails,calls, web browsing and what ever other apps need such as weather to update? or am i wrong :confused:

EDIT- i mean put checkmark back on "always on mobile data"
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sim-X:
MikFroYo was actually the 1st rom I have ever flashed to my evo. I did my first ever evo flash on a friends evo and set him up with Warm Z TwoPointTwo. (Actually tried miui rom for a very short time, we both hated it) He really likes the Warm Z so he is sticking with that even though 4G doesn't work and it has this voicemail bug.

For myself I went with MikFroYo and really don't have any interest in trying other roms. Before my evo I had a TP2 and always ran MightyRom. Mighty was by far the most rock solid, stable fast rom where everything worked on the TP2. So I kinda picked this one since it seemed most llike Mighty. I have been very happy with it so far.

One thing I haven't done yet is pick out a custom kernal. I guess I didn't really have a reason to try a differnt kernal and everything seems to work fine without a custom one. I have never flashed a kernal but does this rom really need a custom kernal? I was kinda looking through a few different ones but I guess since everything works so well, I thought I would just leave it. Is it worth venturing into a custom kernal or am I just asking for problems? Like I said I like the fact how solid this rom is. It's fast, looks great and everything works. I didn't wanna mess that up with a different kernel.

I also just shut off my always on mobile data, thanks for the tip. I'm on wi-fi most the time anyway all day at work and when I'm at home.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Hey Hemi,

I've noticed when I have this disabled, my 3G data would get disconnected after a few minutes of idle (like when using xda app). To get 3G data back, I have to toggle wifi, 4G, or moble data on/off.

When I leave "always on" enabled, I don't experience this 3G disconnection. Strange isn't it? I had thought like you that there was no negative consequence. One additional piece of info; with "always on" enabled, I don't observe more current draw (mA), in battery monitor widget, for both active and sleeping periods. Perhaps this is my strange phone again, but it's a data point.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
Did you check your sync settings? Remember that flashing a new ROM will reset all of your sync settings to check for stocks, news, facebook, etc... very often. Plus if you do not use Google Talk you should turn off "Automatically Sign In" in the Talk app. Plus adjust brightness as already mentioned.

As you can see in my sig I also have HW 0003. I have PRI 1.77 running, changed the sync settings, have the stock battery and easily go all day. I posted screen shots a few nights ago of the phone being unplugged for over 16hrs and I still had 57% battery.

Did you use an app backup tool to restore any apps or system settings?
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
If you nand backup your current setup, you can experiment with kernels and still be able to get back your old setup.

If you can find a custom kernel (like netarchy) that works well for your phone, you'll experience better battery life and performance compared to any "modified" stock HTC kernel.

Many people here will give you suggestions on what kernel to try. Read this post to learn the what the different characteristics of a kernel does.

For me, I'd suggest to try netarchy 4.3.4 cfs havs more sbc or 4.3.1 cfs havs sbc.

Good luck!

Edit: Thanks Jade for the link to net's thread. I knew I forgot something. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
And don't forget a link to netarchy's thread too: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=719763
[EVO 4G Android Development] jstn76rs:
This is exactly what I have always thought about this ROM. Always ran mighty on my tp2 and will probably always run mikfroyo...
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
I have never rechecked mine since turning it off. Its 1 of the 1st things I do when I set up the ROM for the 1st time. Everything you listed above still works.

That is strange. my 3G works fine, with no disconnects. Its not suppose to disconnect as long as the screen is on. I also see no slow down say like when I am on either on the xda app or internet, screen timeouts, and I turn it back on to finish what I was doing. I noticed a huge battery improvement when I started doing this. I was reluctant at first, but after using it for awhile, I started noticing the difference. I haven't experienced the disconnect with either wifi, 3G, or 4G.

Maybe a Gremlin? I will say that when I use to run JuiceDefender, I always had issues similar to what you said above. 1 of the reasons I hated JD, and stopped using it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sim-X:
Awesome, thanks for the suggestions. I might have to give them a try

I did really like the WarmZ two point two with the landscape but I didn't like the fact 4G didn't work. My friend doesn't care about that so he is keeping it. I am running MikFroyo on my evo and set another friend up with MikFroyo which both of us really like so far. So will we ever get htc software update notifications on this rom or is that disabled? I'm guessing if it does come up to decline it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
and the direct link to Net's kernals (this does not have the latest beta, get it from post #1 on the above link...

http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
It's linked in his OP which is why I didn't include it. I think it's better to make sure people read the OP instead of going straight to the downloads. But thanks anyway, it's definitely a useful link even if the newest ones aren't there yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Hey coiledwire -

I looked at your battery stats with the 4.3.4 kernel. That is some very strange readings. Mine looks nothing like that. Looks just like 4.3.1 and 4.3.2 did. Nice, ramp up to full, then steady until taken off charger. I'd post a shot, but I hit the delete button on my history by accident today :o

Will take a screenshot next recharge and post it...
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
My signal bars are jumpy or barely showing up, useally i have full bars:confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
I refuse to use JD also. If anything, I'll use tasker but its currently off too.

Gremlins... I really do feel I have at least 1 ghost in the machine. If I keep getting strange phone tendencies, I'll have to wipe them out by doing a full unroot/ RUU/ root procedure like Aaron.

To be continued...

Edit: I know, my charging profile for 4.3.4 is jacked. But flashing 4.3.1, it returns back to normal. Damn gremlins....
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
I had 1 instance on 4.3.4 where it seemed that perhaps SBC did not kick in (think it was the 2nd night) as the battery dropped kinda quick from 100-90'ish. I looked at the logs and it mA's showed like aaron's was doing the last night (high -mA's), but hasn't done it since. I've been checking after every charge since then. 4.3.4 feels a lot smoother than 4.3.2 did. Hopefully if it is an issue with the kernel, Net will get it sorted out pretty quick...

BTW - IS IT SUMMER YET?
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
I wonder if down grading my NV to EVO_NV_1.77_003 would help any? since i down graded my PRI to 1.77 cpl, weeks ago...
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
When I downgraded, I did both.
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
was there noticable difference?