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[G Tablet Themes and Apps] FateZero:
Thanks to the people over at Modaco I found out that a new Rock player is out

The latest 1.5.x release adds network streaming (via browser integration) and optimisations for Tegra 2 hardware.

If you have another ver. installed please uninstall it. Go to the market install 1.5.0 when you start it, it will have an update to 1.5.1 and once installed just activate it. (if you have a paid copy) if not it will have ads paid is only $9.99

The new update works great, this thing fly's and has loaded everything I throw at it.

Web streaming is easy I have Tversity setup on my home pc and a link to the IP in my browse I just select what I want to see and the stream starts right away in rockplayer.

I am still testing it, but so far this thing is WIN!
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] HorsexD:
Really? Sweeeet. Ima try out som HD Videos now see how they run! :D
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] WickedStyx:
Just saw it on my Captivate. Trying it now on the Gtab
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] ultimind:
Let's see it play 720p MKV files natively. I'll be really excited if it can. Will try later.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] rayden25:
I just tried a .mov (don't know how it was encoded) it played but like 1 fps and sound dropped out after. 1 minute. I then tried an H.264 .mp4. Same deal. Both were 1080p.

What is the gtab supposed to play 1080p in? Any one know?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] WickedStyx:
The only video I had on my Gtab was a 720p 3211kbps XviD with AC3 audio. I tried playing it using hardware decode and it played beautifully but with no audio :(

Haven't had time to try anything else yet. Will post results when I get a chance.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] rayden25:
So I am pretty disappointed with this update. I still can't play H.264 or mkv MPEG4 files in 1080p. The Tegra 2 is supposed to have an on-chip processor for H.264, but this does not seem to take advantage of it.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] cotily03:
Thanks for the headsup on this one.

I downloaded and installed.

When I play my 720p mp4 movies, not sure how they are encoded, it asks me if I want hardware decoding mode or software. Which one should I pick?

Coty
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] FateZero:
I always try hardware first if it fails then I go software.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] rayden25:
OK, so after a bunch of trial and error I got 1080p playing in Rockplayer 1.51 with hardware decoding. The file NEEDS to be an MP4 container encoded with MPEG. I used Handbrake to get it done. Everything else I tried doesn't work one way or another, either FC, no sound or no video. I hope this helps someone.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] rushless:
Using 1.51 with TnT 3.0, hardware acceleration mode resets my Gtablet. Screen blacks out and then reboots, starting at the fireworks streamer spash screen.

Tried multiple times with different files with same result.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] gotwillk:
yea the tab is unable to play videos encoded in High Profile due to hardware limitations with the Tegra chip. it only works with Baseline and Main profile. from my experience, Main gives a cleaner picture than Baseline does. if its encoded in High, the video will just stutter.

was excited to see that the new Rockplayer was Tegra optimized but it will never play 720p or 1080p vids without being converted to those profiles first. was really hoping i can just drag and drop my downloaded 720p tv shows into the tab and watch it but eh well. i need to figure out how to reencode my files while keeping it as close to 720p quality as possible.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] rushless:
I must be unlucky, since 1.51 hardware mode crashes and resets my Gtablet with TnT 3.0 after playing a few seconds.

Why do you want to encode at 720p when the Gtab is not 720p? Seems overkill- if the files are for the Gtablet. I can see if just copying over to play, but if redoing for G, why not custom res to native of device?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] gotwillk:
well not 720p but at least close to it. the reason is that it will cause blockiness otherwise, especially for the scenes that have a lot of movement. i want to keep everything the way it is but using the Main profile instead of High profile, which the original vid is encoded in. i think i've gotten it pretty close as the original file but still noticeable blockiness in high movement scenes. i'm a guy thats a stickler for quality video and audio. don't mind me lol.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] SpinKix:
I convert my TV recordings using a free program called SUPER:

http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html#Dnload

Lots of features, including a drag and drop queue to batch convert multiple files.

It's a little confusing at first, but has a good instruction page, and tool tips.

Right mouse click brings up different menus, depending on what your click.

Double clicking a file in the queue shows information about the source file.

Check the High Quality, and Top Quality boxes, 3600 or higher bitrate.

MP4 container, MPEG-4 codec, and AAA LC audio works on Gtab.

As for screen resolution from 720p source file, there doesn't seem to be much difference above 800 wide on the Gtab, so I set scale size to 800x448 for 16:9 video that fills the screen (slight black bands top & bottom, but scaled correct).

Good compromise between file size, and quality.

If you choose the original scaling, it converts the fastest, but huge file size.

Some programs like "No Ordinary Family" have audio in channel 2, so if there is no audio, change default to channel 2 in the settings before you convert.

Hope this helps.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] TheMongol:
I might be the odd one out with this program. I have had horrible experiences with compatibility, function, and even replicating the same failures.

I have a series of files all encoded by the same person form a "podcast" type video series. Some of the files will "load" in hardware mode(i say load because often sound doesn't work) and some will not. The catch is all of them load and fail sometimes.

I noticed virtually no change in the tegra "optimization" I am really disappointed frankly. I have no reason to buy the software if it doesn't support what I need and I was really hoping this iteration would provide me with some kind of noticeable improvement. I even had to use titanium to wipe data for rockplayer for it to launch any video at all. It also force closes opening videos that used to play perfectly in the old version.

I guess multimedia and android still don't mix =/
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] rugbychix@gmail.com:
High Profile

I having success with HP video using Mediacoder. Both hardware and software rendering are successful with deinterlacing, 6 B-frames and 1920 by 1080 resolution.. My source is AVCHD content, so I am having some interesting issues with audio though....
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] gotwillk:
what does deinterlacing and 6 b-frames do exactly?

also can you post the rest of your settings? i've been following someone else's settings on a Droid forum and they don't work that well with the tab.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Jokulgoblin:
For what it's worth, VLC for Android is reportedly in the works for early 2011.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] FateZero:
Great news i look foward to trying it out.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] usafle:
Took your advice and downloaded this program you spoke of. While it shrinks the file size CONSIDERABLY (good thing) it looks very "Grainy" using your settings that you recommended.

Unless I missed something somewhere? I encoded a .720p video and it shrunk it down from 1.45GB to 165MB... outstanding. But, it looks crazy grainy and a .720p video file should not.

I tried converting the same .720p/.mkv file in DVDFAB and the only thing it out put was the audio. No video. DVDFAB is my "default" go to video encoder. Shame it wouldn't work. It also doesn't "shrink" the file size very much (if at all) when converting.

Maybe the MPEG-4 container is not the correct choice for encoding as it looks grainy?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] SpinKix:
Bitrate or fps

165mb seems too small a file. Should be more like 400mb.

Check your fps is 29 or 30 and raise bitrate to see if it improves.

Other possibility could be the scaling is not 800x448, and is stretching a small res image.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Allenfx:
I have been playing around encoding DVD movies tonight and using cucusoft dvd ripper i got my gtabl to play HD H.264 (1920x1080) at the highest possible bit rate (the file for a 110minute movie was well over 2Gigs!) at 1980x1080and i can tell you the hardware is capable of processing high def (even if the screen display is limited to 1024x600). It played pretty well but i did get a tad bit of artifacting (and what it SHOULD have done ((if it isnt capable of processing HD video) was froze up, force closed and locked up the whole tablet)....backing off the bit rate a tad probably would have fixed the problem entirely!.

Honestly i think the hardware capabilities of this thing are stronger then the ram capacity would allow to be practical. You need to back off of the settings to save sd card memory before you get near the settings that would choke the video encoder. I am testing at 1024x768 and a bit rate of 1335 just to see where a happy meadium is.

Any suggestions? I dont have a setting for the native 1024x600 resolution of the screen.

Edit: i found the customization menu that lets me dial in the exact resolution of 1024x600 Testing now.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] usafle:
Can you take a look at my settings. Maybe I am missing something?

Just converted the same video file as before. File size has "enlarged" to 217mb but still looks "blocky"
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] SpinKix:
usafle,

Change Video Scale Size to 800 width and 448 height. I know the gTab is 1024 wide, but I couldn't tell that much difference going up from 800 wide, especially with 720 source.

The real culprit is the 1344 bitrate. Change to 3000 for good quality, and go up from there to around 4800 for best quality from 720 source.

Also try 29.97 for Frame/Sec.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Clayfree:
A couple of suggestions:

I usually leave the size as is(NoChange). Your fps is set at 30, you probably want 29.97. 1024 x 600 fits your screen but isn't that changing the aspect ratio of the original? Looks like your ratio is not specified..

Get a program like MediaInfo, once installed you can right-click a video file and it will tell you encoding details about the existing file, very helpful in setting up SuperC.

For quick encodes check out Badaboom, it uses the GPU in Nvidia Cuda graphics cards. I have seen encoding rates up to 150 fps! It's a paid program.

Also MediaCoder is using GPU encoding and it's free.

I think SuperC is one of the best but the encodes will take longer.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] SpinKix:
Don't give up hope for playing high profile TV recordings directly just yet.

Rockplayer 1.5.5 at least starts decoding my recordings (even without hardware decode enabled) and sometimes goes for a couple minutes before dropping out, so it's getting there. Used to be, all I got was sound.

From what I can gather from the Boxee incident, Tegra CAN decode high profile, but not at high bitrates.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/boxee-box-ditches-nvidias-tegra-2-for-intel-ce4100-pre-orders/

So, since recordings are a lower bitrate than broadcast or Blue Ray, we should *eventually* be able to play our TV recordings directly on the gTab without converting.

If not, I have a plan B... replace my media server with a Sandy Bridge i7 2600K CPU and transcode on the fly (after they get the gTablet to play progressive download files).

Maybe with Honeycomb we'll see drivers that work in the spring, or sooner with all the wonderful "Turbo-Assist" we've seen getting from the guys around here.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] SpinKix:
Super has a mediainfo function, just doubleclick the file in the queue.

usafle,

I'm starting out with source files in the 4-6GB range for a 60 min recording, so maybe your source file @1.45GB has a lower bitrate to start with?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] japhule:
I used to use super but have since switched to handbrake and it works much better IMHO. When I have time I will try to put together a encoding profile ideal for the gtab.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] usafle:
Whew. A lot of information here. Thanks everyone.

@SpinKix: Took your advice on settings/re-encoding now with your suggestions.... and what a difference. Thank you Sir. That fixed it. Just painfully slow encoding time. :(

@Clayfree: Yes, I liked Badaboom as well. Unfortunately, I have an ATI card on my current build which isn't CUDA supported. :( SuperC does take a really really really long time.... I guess it's just CPU supported. And, it only appears to use one core on my Intel.

@japhule: I used Handbrake a few times but it won't give me any video when I attempt to convert a .MKV file. Just outputs the Audio. Hence why I had to turn to other programs. But, looking forward to your profile for the GTab regardless. I still use Handbrake on other files along with DVDFab (<--- fastest encoder so far)
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] pixelyte:
As far as encoding software goes...

MeGUI, in my opinion is much better then the rest. I've used 'em all, such as Super and Mediacoder and all gave me trouble. Handbrake's quality, I find lacking as well.

MeGUI has tons of excellent presets for x264 encoding many especially designed for hardware decoding and puts out the highest quality videos I've seen. As I said I've tried many (open source only) encoders. I like using Mencoder for Xvid encodes since it seems to consistently put out higher quality as well (for Xvid).

Don't take my word for it though. The place to go for expert advice on video encoding is: forum.doom9.org . Thought I'd put this out there as a bit of advice on the topic.

As far as the Gtab's hardware decoding, I've just gotten mine so I haven't had much time testing it. However, I did try playing one 720p movie ("The Tunnel" legally free to torrent on Vodo.net) which was indeed a high profile h264 and it stuttered badly but continued to play via Moboplayer. I'll re-encode it using one of MeGUI's hardware decoding presets and report back.

Edit:

According to this post: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1089412 Gingerbread platforms (Android 2.3) such as CM7 and Vegan-tab 7 (which I am using) do not yet support hardware decoding since Nvidia hasn't released drivers for it (just Froyo 2.2). So that answers my question. Sad and indeed embarrassing (not to mention annoying) that a large company such as Nvidia can't keep up with the unpaid community developers.

Edit:

Looks like you can add hardware decoding by installing a custom kernel. Which I assume isn't for the faint of heart. I'm not faint of heart ;) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=903505 I'm not quit clear on how it's done but I bet it has something to do with the Android SDK and ADB (Advanced Debugging Bridge?) to "push" the kernel into place in 'system' on the flash ROM.

Edit:

Updated to Pershoots kernel on my Vegan Ginger through ClockworkMod recovery's zip installer and it got bricked. I restored my backup and it was still bricked. From reading around it seems these things happen for no particular reason. Cause, I re-flashed the system using NvFlash, re-installed Vegan Ginger, re-installed the kernel right away and everything worked fine (maybe kernel upgrade needs a clean install?).

NvFlash is key.

Haven't noticed any difference in video playback. Although, UI *seems* more responsive, barring placebo effect. Thats enough from me now on this topic.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
12.23.10

GETTING CLOSER. 3D IN ACTION

TAKE IT LOOK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbfX2iQxw5s

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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] d0nate110:
What's the point ?

Ok, that was cool, but whats the point if you don't post the link to download this version ?

I understood, that version is better, smoother and more responsible as standard FRX03... Where can I get it :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
here. try this by ndno ppcgeeks

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-andro...etter-performance-testing-35.html#post2017935

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] tiad8:
12.23.10

first post updated

getting closer. 3d in action

take it look
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] d0nate110:
Was the kernel 1232 modified for 3d performance ? Cuz I've started the same version you gave me with new 1242 kernel and angry birds (lite) won't install at all !

But any way thank you for this version, I'm gonna test it for couple days and will report back :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sztupy:
DL link: http://android.sztupy.hu/dl/Steam_Kernel_2.9.9.0.tar

(flash with Odin as PDA)

Source: https://github.com/SteamMOD
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Tricky103:
Sound good. Will try.

Good work sztupy.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
WOW, I successor to ULTK. I bet this will be as path-breaking as ULTK.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] xan:
I thought sztupy has moved on, but no, he was preparing for this big release!

Congratulations and thank You sztupy :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Reflxxx:
Omfg youre pure awesomeness!!!

OMFG DUDE, you have done it again, cant wait to try this out, im on 2.2.1 right now but will try it as soon as its compatible, keep up the good work.. Im so happy with guys like you...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] _JKay_:
WOW what a Christmas present!!! Thanks alot!!! Will start testing now....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rewtnull:
Looking good! Will try this as soon as it works with 2.2.1.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ykkfive:
good to see u r still working for i9000

btw, looks like u have mis-spell my name :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] hensk:
exelent m8,exelent job done

good start for 2.3 firmware
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cHarOn99:
awesome the master is back :D, looking forward to a JPY compatible build :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cantIntoCode:
Ahh bravo! Well done I'm pretty sure no one expected this :-) keep up the good work!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tonyjansen:
1617 in meaningless Quadrant. 1400's in latest hardcore kernels (with same config?). You did something right :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] supercurio:
what is the result of the mount command?

@sztupy thanks for your attempt to fix the RFS corruption on /system.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] giokou:
Master sztupy returns...

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep 'em coming!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] corgar:
created cwm flashable kernel ( thx hardcore and trasig )

Steam_Kernel_2.9.9.0_CWM.zip

pls clear dalvik after flashing.

tested it and it work just fine.

thx again sztupy
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] BlueEyes99:
wow good work, hopefully we can have 2.2.1 compatibility soon with the release of the 2.2.1 sourcecode
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TweetyPeety:
WOW great work, the Recovery Mode is Awesome

I am trying it right now with original JPX and JFS Base.

One question!!! it tells me if I really want to formate /system because this can be undone. BUT if I flash it back with Odin to Original one with re-partition on it should be everything like original, should it ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] corgar:
if you reflash a full rom ( like jpu, low level package ) with repartition enable it will reformat your device in rfs.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TweetyPeety:
Ok tried it and it doesn't work for me. It runs ok, but not really smooth. Live Wallpaper is really slow and I don't get connection to my mobile phone provider and WLAN doesn't work.

maybe not JPX ready, so I will try szutyps Steam Rom :) I have time today to try some stuff :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ale0crysis:
Sztupy , awesome work
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
Be warned people, Sztupy's STEAM is going to create a LOT of heat here in XDA. :D:D:D

PS : Really looking forward to working steam for 2.2.1
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] RolluS:
Hi Sztupy,

First great job for the whole Steam Project ;) I've tryed recovery on a JPX rom, it's working okay (but no extended option..)

May you please tell us more about problem we can expect on 2.2.1?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
I think external SD & wifi. maybe something more.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] corgar:
got a problem just when converting /system can't mount dev/block/stl11 or stl10 don't remember. need to reflash all rom again with odin to restore all.

for other option all works just fine. mount option for ext4 is the same used by hardcore or supercurio or another mount version? Just to know if we can get data corruption after an unimproper shutdown.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] corgar:
oh and after some testing i can confirm that this update is working fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
If you clear dalvik after you flash this kernel, would it work?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] RolluS:
On which rom did you flash this?

@ragin thank you.

What I like with JPU/JPX is the speed of the gps fix. It is due to the modem right?

I've read that's problem is with wifi and sdcard, but what sort of problem? does anyone test?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] corgar:
yup it's working fine but i got a problem when i was trying to convert system to ext4
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sztupy:
It's still the old one. I won't change it without adding an option to switch between options yourselves. (For this a list of usual mount options for ext4 would be great though!)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sztupy:
/system reconversion is not throughly tested yet. Might be an issue with not having enough space on /system after conversion to ext4
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] corgar:
got like 48mb free in system partition :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TweetyPeety:
so I have it now on my SGS for about 12 hours and the speed is great. I measure the speed always on 3DGallery and Contact App because they take the longest time to open and identify the pictures, anything else is anyway in any kernel smooth.

I have to say this is right now the best result I saw, or maybe I felt, because speed is everytime a feeling. I got 1500 points with Quadrant, but we all know this has nothing to say. The scroll speed is smooth, opening apps is good and I tried most of the Apps like Asphalt, Titanium, 3D Gallery, Quadrant, Launcherpro, Youtube, Video, everything works perfect. Even a link on the homescreen on an App, which usually takes longer to list all the apps, is really smooth and fast. GOOD work szutpy !!!

GPS connection is really awesome, hasn't seen such a good result since a couple of Roms. I am testing it @home ( yeah I know ) but it takes about 5-7 seconds and I got a accuracy of 10 meters. Usually with any other Rom it takes a little bit longer, or if faster than only 30 meters and it gets better with time to 10 meters.

I have to say I tried this all with his own Rom which is based on a little bit older Firmware, doesn't matter works flawless.

CONTRA

JFS base dones't work for me, even with szutpy Rom. If I activate it I get no WLAN and no Mobile Connection. The same if you activate Ext4 Overkill, or anything which effects the /system partition. If this is formated to any other Datasystem I get no WLAN and Mobile Connection, the same goes for changing the /efs. The biggest problem is if you do some of this stuff and try to redo it you will get most of the time an internal storage amount of 0kb for your Apps. I had to reformat, through Steam Recover, every time the /system partition again.

I hope to see the development going further, because without these problems this kernel would be AWESOME
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] LockeOn:
WOW! This would make the first optimized CM kernel for SGS! Can't wait for it. Congratulations Sztupy, great work!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sztupy:
The /efs hiding trick only works if /system is rw, but by default it is remounted ro (therefore the phone part will not work). I already fixed this in the next release.

The JFS part was largely untested, as it was simply copied from ultk without much testing.