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[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
What kernel are you using? Try nets 4.3.4-cfs-sbc or his 4.3.2-cfs-sbc.

I am using nets 4.3.2-cfs-sbc-havs-more and getting pretty decent battery life.

"Into the darkness I shall walk with no fear"
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Seen Engadget there is a phone going to be coming out from htc with Sense 3.0. It is called the "Pyramid"

"Into the darkness I shall walk with no fear"
[EVO 4G Android Development] mecampo:
you bet ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] agentphantom:
Battery stats for those interested:

Screen On: 1 hour 54 minutes

Voice Calls: 1 hour 40 minutes

Cell Standby: 16 hours

Phone idle: 14 hours

Android system: 15 minutes

Wifi: 16 hours

Android OS: 7 minutes
[EVO 4G Android Development] vlbaston:
Themikmik.com
[EVO 4G Android Development] quocamole:
i don't see it for 4.6 either...
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommy24:
Gingerbread

I'm not sure if anyone has seen this, but if this is true I hope it gets Mik'd

http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/03/g...tc-evo-4g-in-q2-2011-says-email-from-htc.html
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Yes it was after I installed your theme. I just rebooted and was good to go.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rahb0sse:
Do you know if just flashing this over the top of 4.5 will work? I'm hate backing up/reinstating everything again :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] myMUSICveins:
Thanks, I meant on xda, but that is certainly helpful.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vlbaston:
http://themikmik.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=95
[EVO 4G Android Development] quocamole:
got that, but i don't see the stock mik green theme. i don't think it's up yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Yeah so far I haven't had any problems with it.

"Into the darkness I shall walk with no fear"
[EVO 4G Android Development] slickrick54:
How long have you been using that style of charging and do you think it makes a big difference. Thx
[EVO 4G Android Development] vlbaston:
u right i looked all threw there an dont see the stock green\Blk i know i pulled it up last night, apologize for the miss info.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slickrick54:
Do you think its safe to use titanium backup to uninstall the apps that aren't accessible from the install menu.( mail.apk ).
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
I'm using SBC as well and honestly, it doesn't make all that much of a difference. The first 10% or so still drops faster than the last 90%. It does work but I just don't think it's possible to totally eliminate the 10% rapid drain.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
Does anyone have this rosie available for 4.5 ? The link doesn't work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slickrick54:
Well that kind of sucks. Man they make it seem like it does so much more for batt life in other threads but they also say its dangerous to because of heat. Do you ever feel like the battery gets hot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PM-Performance:
I think its just the new Net kernel that does this. I used all the other SBC kernels when they first came out and it was like night and day. I have my doubts on the SBC working well or even at all on the new Net kernel though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jstalford:
Yeah, running the Savaged-Zen ROM, first 10% took
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
On CM I used SZ kernel, Tiamat and now I have tried 2 of Nets (granted both were his new ones.. just less/more). None of them eliminate the rapid drain for me. I know it's working tho because I used BMW. (I wish it was a car).

The best results I get is it sticks on 100% a little longer sometimes, but once it hits ~98% then it rapidly drops to 88-90% with minor usage. Only issue I have with sense vs. aosp kernels is that aosp wouldn't drain more than 1% if it drained at all when I left it unplugged overnight. Sense sometimes drains ~10% and just gobbles the battery quicker.

All in all tho, I think SBC is worth using because there is some benefit, just for me personally.. it isn't much.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slickrick54:
Man I love wisp but my signal strength sucks so bad on it that I always come back to sense. Also the batt life is great for me on aosp to.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slickrick54:
Man I love aosp but my signal strength sucks so bad on it that I always come back to sense. Also the batt life is great for me on aosp to.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Wisiwyg:
Just for giggles.... Try this - I'm getting unusually long battery life and am not sure if this is what has made it happen...

1) Nandroid (!)

2) Find IQAgent, kill, uninstall/remove however you can.

3) Give it about 3-4 days for the system to settle and then check your battery life.

I'm running Net's latest 4.3.4 HAVS, SBC, More, and noticed yesterday that I forgot to plug in at the end of the day for overnight charge and it still had about 50% battery in the morning. I didn't use the phone heavily the previous day, but this is still unusual. On this kernel, phone stays at 100% for about 2 hours or more with light use.

02 HW, 3 point
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
What is IQAgent? I'll demolish it if I have to, but, I'd like to know what I'm killing =p
[EVO 4G Android Development] Wisiwyg:
You're not gonna' like this...

IQAgent and IQFD are 2 daemons launched by init that are part of a 'quality' survey system that Sprint and other cell providers employ to keep tabs on the quality of service.

Look around and you'll find that IQAgent tracks *everything* you do, web visits, key presses, etc. In another thread, someone called Sprint for help and they asked for the cell number, then asked what Myn's Warm was. How did they know?

I killed it bc I don't want Sprint, or anyone else, keeping track of what I do. The unexpected benefit, I think?, is that battery life seems to have gone up. It is no longer active and my phone works as it did before. Your experience may vary.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slickrick54:
Do you know what the iqagent.apk is used for.

EDIT: Someone just answered it while I was typing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
Dirty little sneaky Big Brother sunuva bastages...

I'll try to remove it via root explorer.... EDIT: Deleted, everything seems fine so far. Hopefully battery life improves.

What about HtcDmService? WHat does that do? Or com.smithmicro.DM? Those services are running too and I have no clue what they are.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slickrick54:
Do you think they both can be uninstalled safely.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Wisiwyg:
I don't know about HTCDmService...

Please do let everyone know if the IQAgent thing helps your battery life. This is just beginning to come to light. People have known it was there, but no one was sure if it was a requirement for proper function or just what it did. Do a search and you'll find one dev group has really looked into it now and its wicked.

I'm guessing that shutting it down has reduced the use of the cell system and system resources, but I've got no way of knowing or of finding out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Wisiwyg:
I don't know about IQFD. I had read that someone else had removed IQAgent without problems, but it isn't a wide practice - yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
Ok, so this is the only thing that you removed like this that you know of right?

I'll definitely keep an eye on it, I appreciate the tip. If it doesn't help battery life one bit, I still don't want that crap on my phone....

EDIT: My thanks are maxed, but you have one coming.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Wisiwyg:
Yes, this is the only thing that I've removed. I may also remove IQFD when I have time and a wild hair.

I appreciate the thought. I hope it does help with battery life. Good luck!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
I can't find IQFD in Titanium do you mean IQRD? If so I've frozen both going to see how that goes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ruki_Uki:
I can just flash 4.6 over 4.5 to update right??
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
Follow this guide for trouble free flashing

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10985680&postcount=8440
[EVO 4G Android Development] slickrick54:
Just removed IqAgent.apk will report back later how batt life is. Hopefully better because I don't want to buy the 3500 battery. I did once and returned it because of it making the phone look big and fat.
[EVO 4G Android Development] novanosis85:
Has anyone notice while on WiFi and mobile data disabled you get a no connection error and asks you to go to settings but a second later its showing the page in the browser.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mecampo:
base on this thread, it causes wavelocks after removing HtcIQAgent.apk and IQRD.apk :(

can anyone please verify?

thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
It hasn't caused one for me as of yet. I'll monitor it tho..
[EVO 4G Android Development] mecampo:
monitor awake time vs up time
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Full wipe is required, sorry.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Check here: http://themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=54
[EVO 4G Android Development] bridic:
Trying to get the 4x5 flat-black but the 4x5 widget link is broke. Just flashing the 4x5 flat-black doesn't allow the sense clock to be added.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Check in Nick's mediafire in the "Chingy" folder: http://www.mediafire.com/nick1329
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Hey slickrick, does it seem beneficial to remove the IqAgent?

Have you noticed any difference in how your phone works?

"Into the darkness I shall walk with no fear"
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Here is a very good article about the IqAgent and what it does. I just googled IqAgent. It seems it can be removed without bad side effects.

http://www.androidhelpers.com/index.php?page=sprintspy.

"Into the darkness I shall walk with no fear"
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
Nice find. It didn't seem really clear to me in that article if actually removing the apk. kills it off. I kinda got the feeling that it is deeper in the framework and just deleting the apk. may not be enough?

Edit: It sounds like a high end keylogger? How is this even legal..
[EVO 4G Android Development] ChefEAM:
I froze both HTC IQAgent and IQRD. So far I have not noticed any problems with my EVO. I have not restarted to see if having them frozen will cause any boot problems. On the battery side, my EVO was sleeping at around 90-108mA (with 100+ being the norm). Since I have frozen those 2, it is sleeping at 40-44mA. So it does seem that they are a major battery drain.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mexlos:
Can anyone confirm this? By "green stock theme" I imagine:

But for MikFroYo 4.6, of course. This would be a HUGE improvement over the stock look IMHO. I can't wait for this to be done, and especially excited about maybe seeing the Flat-Black Blue brought to the latest MikROM. :D

Anyway, I can't find it. Any info?

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still need a signature
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
I just deleted IQRD along with IQAgent via root explorer.

It seemed to ake my phone laggy for a bit, just for a bit tho.. I'll monitor it after I unplug it for the day.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
I don't think it is up yet.

I'm still using 4.5 because I can't take stock =p

let us know if you find it please.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ChefEAM:
I just did a restart, and having them frozen does not seem to cause any problems at boot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
i like this theme other than that ugly ass clock lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
That is great. Thanks for the info ChefEam. Did you use Titanium to freeze them?

"Into the darkness I shall walk with no fear"
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
Done the same. I've noticed a few things but I want to wait for a bit to see if the issues are related to freezing these two items.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
I did also and then checked from manage applications, IQRD is still running even while frozen.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
i renamed both of them .bak instead of .apk. Restarted and my phone wouldn't sleep. Oh well
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
I did the same but did not see either IqAgent or IQRD running.

"Into the darkness I shall walk with no fear"
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
I was in the Epic 4g forum looking at something for my wife, and I noticed their roms have made it a big deal that they have removed the iq agent. They have reported huge gains in performance and battery life.

I too think iq agent runs deeper than just the apk. I've searched to see if anyone has looked into evo's iq agent and it appears that no one has removed it from the rom. It makes me wonder why seemingly nobody has addressed this yet.

Sent via tapatalk app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ChefEAM:
I used AntTek App Manager to freeze them since I only have the free version of Titanium Backup. It seems to have frozen them, as they do not show up in the list of running apps or services.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
I hope so. It hasn't made a difference for me at least early on. I drove to Mickey D's without touching my phone, opened it up and sent 1 text and checked this thread on the XDA app and boom... 6% gone.

I can't send a text without losing 1-2% battery each time..

I still feel better with that crap off my phone, but I will likely be going back to CM soon because of this battery. =o

EDIT: I just tried to reboot after deleting those 2 apks. via root explorer.. and I'm stuck on the White htc Evo screen.. =\

EDIT EDIT: Wiped cache and dalvik and it booted back up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheebahawk:
Can you put the link up to that Samsung thread?

Also has anyone successfully removed it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
I just had to defrost IqAgent and IQRD because I could not get xda app premium or the free one to open and I could not get xda to open even on tapatalk till I defrosted both. That is strange.

"Into the darkness I shall walk with no fear"
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
The site was down for a little bit... did it to me too but I opened XDA with no issues a little bit ago.

EDIT: Xda is loading fine for me now..
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheebahawk:
Maybe its because as the linked article states:

Maybe its so deep that you cant access certain programs that require that check? Like if IQ doesnt return a check, then you cant access the system, etc.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nygel:
Where is the iqAgent located
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheebahawk:
Here is the thread for the Samsung Epic 4G rom that has removed the IQ AGent:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11763089#post11763089
[EVO 4G Android Development] Wisiwyg:
Yes, this is what I was talking about. Thank you for finding the link for us.

I hope that EVO devs and community can sort this out. For me, I killed and deleted IQAgent and haven't had a problem. Not sure if killing IQRD will lead to the problems some have noted over the last couple of hours.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bacidath:
what issues have been noted thus far?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
I removed them both, was able to do everything on my phone. I rebooted and it got stuck on the white screen... a wipe of dalvik/cache fixed that.

The XDA site keeps going down so I think that's why some people are having issues accessing it with the app right now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
Only issue I had was when I froze IQRD 2.2, my phone would not sleep (several reboots). I can freeze the HTC IQAgent 2.2 with no issues.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bridic:
Thanks for the link but I am still getting error when attempting to set the widget.

Is there a certain sequence the files need to be flashed in?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
Hmm my phone is sleeping fine with them deleted. I hope someone can get down to the nitty gritty of this..
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Which ROM are you using and what mods have you done? When did your clock stop working?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheebahawk:
Interesting, I will try freezing IQRD 2.2 as well and see what happens.

UPDATE: MY PHONE IS SLEEPING FINE WITH BOTH THE HTCIQAGENT AND IQRD frozen via Titanium

I wish Team Mik could design something to delete it permanently, but it seems like the CarrierIQ has its tentacles deep inside the ROM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
I'm not sure, but we may be jacking this thread.

Does anyone want to start a thread where people will see so hopefully someone with knowledge can get involved?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheebahawk:
I've started one at the MikMik

But if you want to post one at XDA I will migrate over to it in XDA
[EVO 4G Android Development] mecampo:
same here so just freeze/delete/rename IQAgent 2.2 but keep away from IQRD2.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] mijjah74:
+1, I've frozen both, haven't seen them in running apps. No random reboots, no lag, everything seems to be running fine. Sleeps fine. Hasn't affected the battery yet, still normal drain with sbc kernel. Rebooted phone fine. I guess we'll see what long term affect this might have.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bridic:
flashed the 4.6 then the 4x5 widgets
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheebahawk:
Just to get the easiest way out of the way. You did flash the 4x5 widgets specifically for 4.6 right over at themikmik.com?

Because 4x5 widgets for 4.5 will give you problems.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nnyan:
I'm sure you've check but just to make sure you viewed your UP and AWAKE times over a period of time? As soon as I froze this (I had done a restart) my UP time kept pace with awake time. In fact UP time was 1 sec ahead of awake time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I don't think that would be possible seeing as the 4x5 widgets haven't been finished yet.......
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
BREAKING NEWS:

There will be FREE Android App Development tutorials in video at http://themikmik.com.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bridic:
What I thought was correct doesn't seem to be.

Does 4.6 have one file that contains all the widgets or does each widget have to be flashed one at a time?

thanks for the help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
No, it was my fault earlier. I linked you to the wrong file. I'm still half in 4.5 mode. Sorry about that. 4.6 currently does not have a flashable just for the 4x5 widgets.

Edit: When they do go up, they will be available in this thread: http://themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=180
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
That is SUPER SWEET!

"Into the darkness I shall walk with no fear"
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Videos. Tutorials. Eyes peeled. Themikmik.

attack of the killer tomatoe...the nice one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] firsttimer44:
Love the Rom but it is absolutely killing my battery. 40% in about an hour is just too much no matter how good thius Rom is. It was a good trial but I think I will be flashing something else .
[EVO 4G Android Development] mecampo:
I tried freezing iqrd again but same results. im just thinking out loud maybe its working in tandem with iqfd, that is why when I freeze iqrd iqfd keeps looking for it thus making d phone awake all d time.

what u guys think?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mecampo:
how long have u been using it? at times first few days have high battery drain as battery is calibrating. it can also be the kernel used or if ur overclocking using setcpu or alike. diff phones react differently so its a trial and error in rom kernel combination.

goodluck
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rocklee99:
Where do I find flat black theme? Or matted blues for this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] blkhwkz:
Not out yet, they will be on themikmik.com when they are released.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
Ok, I'm gonna ask again before I go Buck Wild on someone in this thread!!! =p

Does anyone have a working link for this Rosie from the OP that works on version 4.5?

Will this even work on 4.5 since the phone is set in the middle? I know I can remap the right button with the app, but not all the buttons.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
I don't have a linky, but if you go to mikfroyo for the incredible there are working ones. If not go to themikmik.

As for your second concern, it works fine. The Rosie.apk is what controls the location of the buttons. Be warned that the version you find will most likely be an old deodexed variety. So...

attack of the killer tomatoe...the nice one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
Well, I am still using the deoxed 4.5 so it should be ok?

will it effect the notification pulldown and toggles? I definitely don't want to change that.. it's perfect.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
If that's the case then you should be good. I do believe that Rosie is all in Rosie.apk and does not deal with com.HTC.resources.apk. Either way your power Widgets will be untouched (framework.jar, framework-res.apk, services.jar)

attack of the killer tomatoe...the nice one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] k2buckley:
I was very pleased and surprised to discover that the lock screen music controls work with the MIUI music app. Now the question is, how bad is it that I didn't Odex the miui music.apk? Ill have to re-read Tommy's write up on how to odex, because I was slightly unclear on how to do it, because this apk is installed in system/app. But in the mean time I haven't noticed any ill effects from it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vlbaston:
i like to see it myself to root my wifes, epic 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
In all honesty one or two apks deodexed is just fine. Actually, com.HTC.resources and framework-res aren't odex as the rom comes. Data/app still utilize dalvik so it is used regardless unless you odex them. As long as most of your apks are odex in system/app you are good to go.

attack of the killer tomatoe...the nice one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pantr09:
Where is the download link for 4.6 can't find it for some reason
[EVO 4G Android Development] bacidath:
http://themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=102
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Theme is up!!!

HOT OFF THE PRESS

http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=247
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
And for those too lazy to click, it's the original MikFroYo theme (green) for 4.6!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] makskylan:
Awsome... can't wait to get schooled on some things...
[EVO 4G Android Development] dallastx:
Using 4.6 Reformatted everything and 4g signal is not as strong anymore..THought it might be the icon but speed are slower. Any launcher i use goes very slow or resets my phones....Launcher pro "slow to load icons" Go Launcher EX "after being dormat and i try to use phone just resets!" Any ideas on these two issues? 4g and launchers?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
For 4g check here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=733773

And here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=726877

Not sure about launchers. Never used them.
[EVO 4G Android Development] computerkid23:
WOW WHAT A GREAT CONTRIBUTION IM DIGGING THIS FAREAL
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rippley05:
Excellent, I can finally check and see if 4.6 lives up to the hype~!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dallastx:
I have been use to using these launchers and have no idea about themes...All i want is 5 icons per row on sense. Is that possible?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I'm sure this has already been said but I'm going to answer anyway. You may not be getting the trickle charge you are supposed to then. I've had my phone go 3 1/2 hours or more and never drop below 100%. So I hate to say it something isn't right with A) the kernel or B) your phone.

Get battery monitor widget and look at it after it hits 100%, you should be getting positive mas ranging from 2-20 or so, with it tapering out towards the end.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cdw9800:
giving the rom a go hopefully you can keep it stock and let some themes come just a suggestion looking good so far
[EVO 4G Android Development] snood123:
EPST Downgrade not working

Does anyone know why the EPST downgrade trick does not work with this rom? Or maybe the better questions is what are you guys doing to enable ##775#