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[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
That, or they mean the same thing :D.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Threads not big enough for ur head there buddy ;-)

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jkcpsal:
Ok apparently the vaelpak problem was kernel related so I will play with it a little longer. As soon as we get pcw with odex I'm all in.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Well it may be your dream come true. I have a busy weekend ahead of me and I probably won't be around so much the next couple days. Don't miss me too much ;).

p.s. Don't expect me not to come back full force either :p.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
I believe Z handles display differently so it shows higher percentage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
sounds like battery calibration to me. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
The Z has a few things from the HD that is why the display is crisper than regular sense and why your display reading is higher.

"Ephesians 6:12"
[EVO 4G Android Development] xxRAMOTHxx:
Nick its a port from a different phone. The HD Desire. That rom is was not originally designed for the evo. Therefore it is a port over tongue evo.

Hope that helps.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Wow. That's good. I'm going on the site to hit the button for that :D.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
That's because there isn't anything new that I know of.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Verdammt:
Makes Sense. 2.0 that is.

Sent from my optiMIKed Evo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Well I guess I understand that part of it, just not why that would have to do with cell standby being so much lower compared to mik4.5. Like I said though, doesn't matter because I'm perfectly happy with my battery life. Still got 45% left. 4:45 min awake time and 27:40 min up time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Before I go, this post must get it's proper response:
[EVO 4G Android Development] bacidath:
checking to see if you can do gif facepalms... dont mind me...
[EVO 4G Android Development] bacidath:
also...if this if frowned upon i will remove it
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
It works but only the first frame shows up on the app.

Edit: Sorry, the XDA app ;).
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I was gonna say I only got a pic...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] bacidath:
i was hoping that it wouldnt screw with people who were viewing from the app... so good to know. I dont FP but since there was one in the post above mine I figured I would give it a try
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
I think I heard something about 3.0.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 916homie:
Been on the new kernel for about half a day now first time I tried a sbc before i can't believe the difference from non sbc (4.3.4 sbc havs more agr)
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Difference in life or what?

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
Wait is there an eCHO in here?....3.0

This is why it is taking cho so long!

"Walk by Faith not by Sight"
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
He has the right idea
[EVO 4G Android Development] 916homie:
Yes a real noticeable one I didn't have shoot me app before I got new kernel or I would compare but the charge is way better then my previous one (4.3.2 havs more agr no sbc) waiting for out to die to see full chart
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
Anyone on here use adwlauncher ex and notice it lag when hitting the home button or is it just on my Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] ibcenu:
I use adw ex... works fine. Had to adjust a speed setting to calm the jumpiness... fine after that
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
mines has a slight lag when i hit the home button hmm but thanks for the input
[EVO 4G Android Development] madflasher:
^^same here havnt really had problems once making adjustments.

edit: im also on 4.6b2, it has been stellar from the start. only thing i do every other day or so is clear cache, which i do on any ROM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
Havent seen this slow in awhile *****
[EVO 4G Android Development] painandpleasure:
Well I was running Mikz for a little while then came back to 4.5 had alot of pages to catch up on lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] onelovekir:
yes it does...thank you. now do i do "a2sd remove" within adb terminal or from the phone? my goal is to really have a non-apps2sd version of Mik 4.5 that way i can do a fresh install with no apps2sd and not have to remove it after the rom is already installed.

i wish dsixda would have an option to remove it within his kitchen...that would be awesome!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
If you do the "a2sd remove" after a fresh install of 4.5 before you install your user apps it will take very little time to remove as there will be very little that will need to be moved back to data. After it reboots you can install your user apps as normal and they will go to data. You will be running with out a2sd as you want other then the small space taken up by DT a2sd files.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
Mitch had a post on this with the steps to fix it. I don't use ADW but from what I recall it was a quick and simple fix. Hope this helps :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
I got a tweet about an hour ago that said the HDwIn app doesn't require a custom kernel anymore. Has anyone played with it to see if that works? Sorry I don't have a mini hdmi cable.

From a Supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] chefdrew:
For Net's sbc kernel, why does it say use at your own risk? What could happen to your phone/battery?
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
yes thanks i do recall that too
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Go here. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=894880

And here. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=890448&highlight=casualties
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
Actually I think it was for LP...fix should be similar
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
IMHO nothing...it is just a CYA statement. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] chefdrew:
Thank you for the links, looks like it's a battery roast waiting to happen.

Why do people take the chance with them then?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bacidath:
because they are awesome... I have been getting good batt life and no side effects that I can see charge and temps seem normal
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
I've been using sbc since December 17th and have not had any problems at all. I have used mulitple different sbc kernels. But I only used netarchy's sbc kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
Correct I have not had any problems running SBC...actually have had more battery temp problems running NO SBC. There has been no proof that SBC causes any damage. Those who have claimed so have no solid proof just their opinion and way too many other possibilities they have not ruled out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
I doubt anything would happen to the battery, IE smoke, catch fire, etc,etc

i left mine plugged in since 11:30 this morning and it never got hot as you can see in the SS.. infact when im home its always plugged in unless i forget to.
[EVO 4G Android Development] blkhwkz:
Looks like they may have flippped the ROM and RAM numbers in these specs but if that Evo 3d has these specs, I know what I am getting next :D

http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/18/sprin...o-3d-htc-evo-view-4g-motorola-xoom-much-more/
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
Yeppers...mine actually runs cooler plugged in then it does when unplugged and sleeping so how can SBC be hurting anything?

It is NOT!! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
Enough of the SBC rant.

@Cho

How it that playset coming along? You get it beat into submission yet? ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Those specs give me a woody :eek:

This phone is going to be awesome!
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
Yea nice phone but who wants to carry 3d glasses around to watch stuff? ppls would be saying what a DORK!! :D they took away the 8meg, rear cam tho.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
The phone does sound comparable to other high end phones. It's sure nice of sprint to change the premier plans when they did. :(

Sent via XDA app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I read where it was more of the long term effects on the battery because of the trickle charging. And by long term, I'm talking 2 yrs or more. Who keeps there phones for more than 2yrs anymore. Also you can get 2 batteries and an extra charger on ebay for like 20 bucks.

I was like you in the beginning, but gave it a shot and haven't had any issues. Right now I'm at 31% battery left, 31hrs 30 min up time, 5hrs 19 min awake time, and 14 hrs and 45 min since last plug in. I was lucky to get until 5 pm with other kernels before phone died.

But like someone else said its a cya line. If you don't want to risk and are happy with your battery life then don't change.

Sent from my rooted Evo, where my realities are an iPhoners dream.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Lol. Sorry I was typing. Didn't see this until I already posted.

:)

Sent from my rooted Evo, where my realities are an iPhoners dream.
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
what sucks im paying that extra $10.00 bucks a month and still NO 4g here, they told the towers are up and ready to go but wont release it :mad::mad::mad: and im paying $90.00 a month give or take a few bucks. should of stayed on my BB atleast that was cheaper but wouldnt have all the cool stuff.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
No problem...I just meant I was done with my rant on it. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
It's almost done. I have a tube slide to put together then its pretty much done. I like those evo2 specs. You know that they will probably make 3d glasses that look like normal sunglasses. The ones I get at the movies don't look funny not looking at the movie. I hope they have a way to keep the 3d feature off because I personally wouldn't use it.

From a Supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] chefdrew:


Is that w/ a stock battery?

And can you leave it plugged in over night?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mdixon4az:
Lame! No 4G here either. Closest is like 100 miles away with two little pockets in Phoenix. It doesn't even cover the whole of Phoenix, either.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Been using it since I was a team mik member and the only thing that's happened was beetter battery life and no 10% drop ;-)

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Okay, about the glasses! I am sick of people thinking you are going to have to wear glasses to see 3D on this device! YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WEAR GLASSES!!! It has a autostereoscopic 3D display. No glasses required! Just like the new Nintendo DSi 3D. Good read hear on the display technology - http://www.3dcgi.com/cooltech/displays/displays.htm

As for the camera, again, no big deal! Telling the difference between 8 meg and 5 megapixel cameras is to close to call. However, you do get 2 5 megapixel cameras, 1 to allow up to 1080i recording, and both to allow 720p 3D video recording.

The 1 thing I see absent from the specs is 4G? I think its in there, but we'll see next week. I love how Sprint always leaks there info right before a big announcement!
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
nearest 4g is 35miles away from me, HAHA im talking to sprint rep now :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrwright83:
i gotta to say that i love mikfroyo 4.5. and the team that come with it. Let me tell you i tried mikz rom and for my experience i didn't like at all. i tried the sense hub and the first time and when i went to it i reboot three time and after it stop rebooting it came back to normal after that the dialer didn't work when i checked my vm either, so i said the hell with came back to 4.5. Once again thanks guys for all your help you've gave me
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Thanks for that info. I'm 3d retarded. Only 3d I know is at the movie.

When I finish my cig I'll hit that button.

From a Supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
I bet HTC implements 3d like nintendo's 3ds; no glasses needed for the user since they are directly in front of the screen.

But personally I think 3d is a fad and I have no need for it. Now a 1.2ghz dual core on the other hand.....

Edit: What BadHemi says! :)

Sent via XDA app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Wonder what battery life will be like ;-)

Edit: Autosteroscopic........ And that ladies and gentlemen is our word for the day!

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
NP, and thanks! This same technology will eventually be in your flatscreen TV. As for now though, the technology is to expensive for those sizes (a typical autostereoscopic 3D monitor runs about $3700 and thats only 19").

If it is like the 3DS (Nintendo), it only goes into 3D mode when the app is written for it. However, I can see some really cool live wallpapers coming out for this display. Games should be incredible as well.

I am really glad they upped the screen res as well. I just hope they don't use a pentile display like Motorola did with the Atrix. Not that it was bad or anything, just it'll be something that someone with eagle eyes picks up on then picks it apart...
[EVO 4G Android Development] selders59:
I want the cool sunglasses!

"Walk by Faith not by Sight"
[EVO 4G Android Development] ibcenu:
Battery life stock = 6.3 hrs talk

Mikfroyo release 7.8 = 769 hrs talk and unlimited internet:cool:

Ok, I made that up... :o
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Beer Goggles = reduction in autostereoscopic vision!

Sorry, couldn't help it. :)

Sent via XDA app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
That'd be sweet ;-) The battery would be a 12V car battery but id deal with it!!!!

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
They upped the battery to 1730, but you know, it is a HTC, and in stock form they do not get the best battery life. Wish they could have went to the 1930 like Motorola with the Atrix and Bionic. Just like our phones, I am sure the developers will be all over this like white on rice.

Yes, that along with awesomesauce will be on our biweekly exams...:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Of course that there 3D display could make that 2 a 10! :p

And that 3D 720p video recorder could take those 33's and turn em into 38DD's...

BTW, had to hit the button there! LMAO...
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Ok... But correct me if I'm wrong... Yes we added 230mAh... But we also added another core to the processor!!!!! 230mah does NOT = adding another core....

So in short.... 1730mah battery + dual core .processor = Horrific battery life!

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
There's been a thread asking why dual core would be better. Let me give a quick example other than more processing power.

The will put 2 cores in about the space as our old single core. That means each core is smaller in size >> each transistor is smaller >> less power needed to activate. It's completely reasonable to have less power consumption for a given task with a dual core vs a single.

Of course devs, games, etc will push the dual core. But the phone should last longer than 2 hrs. Maybe...

I'm short, I'd expect the same battery life as our EVO when it gets optimized. Mik-optimized :)

Sent via XDA app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Not true!!! Yes there is another core, but its a more efficient die size (45nm vs. 60nm). Also, with the additional core, the chipset is more efficient at execution.

Unlike the Tegra 2 chipset, the Snapdragon is able to turn off a core if not needed for a particular task (ie checking email, stocks, facebook), but will kick in the 2nd core when under heavy tasks. The Tegra 2 is able to throttle, but not disable a core. I just hope developer support will be as good. nVidia has the advantage as its been in the game design for years, and has a slew of developers at hand who have already jumped on board with the Tegra Zone.

Here's a funny bit of info about the Tegra 2 chipset. It was originally intended for WinMo7. When nVidia had issues with production, Microsoft went to Qualcomm. The Tegra 2 was sorta a after thought for Android once MS jumped on the Snapdragon...
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Yes and yes. Screen shots attached.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Very nice Nick!
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Yes, very nice! Are you on 4.5,or Z?

Sent via XDA app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Thanks. I'm pretty happy with my battery life and that's not the "conditioned" battery.

I'm on 4.5
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I'm probably seriously gonna fight .you!!!!! WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!?!?!?!? Best ive got so far was 7hrs since unplug and 3 hr 39min awake!!!! And those were the stats after it shut itself off.... And sadly those are literally the best I've ever got...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
LOL..Have you tried the kernel I am running? What hardware are you? I am 004. Want me to PM you my complete battery saving setup? I really think you do a lot of the same stuff I do with respect to that. IE auto sync off, display down to a 1/4, etc. But I would be happy to go through all my stuff and send it to you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I'm always down for more tips! But I'm gonna recondition my battery cause I keep swapping kernels and Fn up stuff.... Zero autosync, news, stocks, and everything else I don't use on a daily basis including maps is frozen... display is lower than 1/4, blacked out wallpaper (as you know), blacked contacts, blacked Facebook... I'm running out of stuff to make dark and there's nothing running I dont use!

Edit: and I run superpower to shut off all data at screen off

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
I know you hate to hear this, but you really need to wipe your phone, unroot, reroot, reformat SD card, and start from fresh.

For the past week or so since I posted my last battery stats, I have on purpose left my wifi on all day everyday, along with bluetooth, and still can go from 6am to 11-12 at night. Today I swapped back to 1.9 PRI and NV as I really didn't see a big difference in battery life on 1.77 PRI and NV. I did see a difference in signal strength at times on 1.77. Also flashed Nets latest 4.3.4 cfs havs more sbc. Phone finally died on me a few minutes ago and is on the charger. Will do Coiled's battery conditioning tomorrow and see how the new kernel reacts. Remember, my phone is also overclocked to 1152 on the conservative setting with a minimum of 128 (using OS Monitor to set frequencies).
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
What do I need to save off my SD cars cause I'm not gettin rid of music, pics, etc... Basically what do I need to NOT format to keep my phone from screwing all up...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Honestly I think that battery conditioning is more for nosbc, because I actually get better battery life with the battery I didn't condition. Now in all fairness it could just be a cheap battery, since I got it off of ebay with a big ass package of goodies.

Have you tried the kernel I am running? Do you use task killer? SetCpu? I O/C to 1152max/245min. Only have screen off profile set for 422max(hated lag when screen came on at 245)/245min-set to conservative on profile and smartass on screen on. Not sure if that really has an effect because today is the first day I've had it on smartass all day.

PRI 1.77, PRL 60676

Is your always on mobile data set to off?

BTW my battery percentage hasn't changed since my last screens. :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
Well you are in a pickle there because you really need a computer. Unmount your card in your phone settings. Then turn phone off and take sd card out, stick in card reader and transfer all your files to a computer from your sd card, use sd formatter (in my mediafire files in a folder called tools) to format your card. When it's done copy all your files back to your card and stick it back in your phone and turn it on.

If you are going to unroot, you might make sure the unroot files are on the root of your sd card and boot into bootloader. Guide found here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Cant see what ur running... Only have app... No task killers, have set CPU but its froze cause I was running a smartass kernel up until last night... Can't mess with mobile connections cause it FCs... But superpower shuts off all data at screen off...

Edit I've defraged it before and I wanna wipe it because I've had the same card for several years now and wanna get rid of excess BS so what needs to be kept

Edit 2: I will go to a computer tomorrow to do all this

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
Pictures, music, backed up data and nands you might want to have. Any Mik updates and files so you do not have to download again. All other files the phone needs should be restored when you flash ROM.

If I am wrong someone will kindly correct me I am sure. :)

Also I wonder if you are not hurting yourself having everything frozen. Possibley cause TB to draw more battery keeping it all frozen. Just a thought.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
I'm running http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/netarchy-toastmod-4.3.2-cfs-sbc-havs-less-universal-signed.zip.

Mobile force closes because you are on Cho 2.5? Maybe get rid of superpower and give that a try or have you already tried that? Have you tried putting the mobiledata toggle in your PCW? JsChiSurf's thread here.

Honestly I'm not sure really any of it is "needed", other than your backups (obviously), because from what I understand the phone creates all the necessary files. Here's a thread I found that helped me when I updated my card.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Wouldn't more havs give better life? Cause I've ran that.. And yes in FC cause I'm on 2.5...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Aaron - pretty much what everyone above has said. Copy your Nands if you wanna keep them (really not necessary as you want a fresh install), your music, pictures, the essential stuff that cannot be gotten again.

Once you have everything on the computer, run the sd formatter program from Nicks folder. I would redownload your rom, kernal, whatever means of root you are going to perform, and themes or mods. Once you get all that, recopy it all to your freshly formatted sd card, then root, backup up your wimax keys, reflash Mik, and everything else.

If you don't have appbrain installed, I would highly recommend installing it before you wipe ad let it sync. That way any program you dowloaded from the Market that wasn't a paid app, will give you the ability to reinstall without having to remember those apps. Install the ones you want and skip the ones you don't. Makes it real easy.

I can literally reinstall a fresh rom in about 20 minutes without using Titanium Backup.

When wiping the system from recovery, make sure you wipe EVERYTHING!
[EVO 4G Android Development] nick1313:
+1 On everything he said. Especially the TB thing. I actually just uninstall what I don't need. Just make a back up of it prior to uninstalling just in case it causes force closes anywhere else. I freeze flickr (which I could probably just uninstall), the mail widget/email account stuff(use gmail), market updater, and twitter (could probably just uninstall). That's it. I have all the weather stuff and news stuff running because I have widgets for them. I uninstall stocks, quadrant score, dspmanager, nova(don't even know what that is), footprints, peep, network 1.1, and a couple of others.

EDIT: Percent just went down 1% to 26...Also my phone sleeps anywhere from -85 to -110