yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Whos watching it tonight?

Also, fun fact:
[Off-topic] orb3000:
I will watch it, I was aware of it in 1hr my time (-6GMT)

If anyone can post real pictures would be nice as this is one of a kind event!!
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Yea, I'll be there with my trusty 7D with a 70-200 and a 1.4 teleconverter on it. Just have to make sure I dont get killed :O

Anyone living in Brooklyn wanting to meet up? lol
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Great please share your pics here:)

More info:

Lunar Eclipse Pictures: What You Could See Tonight
[Off-topic] cajunflavoredbob:
Eclipse Pictures from South Louisiana

Two pictures I've gotten tonight so far at midnight and one am respectively. I'll add more here if I remember.

Another fun fact is that you should be able to see the ursids meteor shower tonight. It's only visible because of the eclipse.

EDIT: Added the pics taken from 2 am and 2:30 am. Resized them and tweaked them for better image quality.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Ok, i froze my ass off but it was worth it. Ill put my photos up when i wake up.
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Damn it was freezing (well for me 10c is freezing, don´t laugh...)

Here mines:
[Off-topic] cajunflavoredbob:
I know how you feel. I'm in South Louisiana in the US. During the day these past few weeks it's been 21C (70F) or warmer. Tonight it was 10C too. Sooooo cold!

I couldn't get the light to filter properly on the fist picture from midnight. I'm actually surprised how well mine came out though. It's over now, so I'm off to bed. :)
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Haha 10C is cold.

I was in NYC in -8C.

I'll post my shots when I get to them.
[Off-topic] Tribulattifather:
Cheers Orb. Thanks.

I wish I knew when it had been -_-
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Yes it was one of a kind natural event I´m glad had the chance to see:)
[Off-topic] Gigamaster89:
Way too cold outside...could not get a sharp shot because of the wind/crappy tripod.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Lunar Eclipse by Jaszek PL, on Flickr

Lunar Eclipse by Jaszek PL, on Flickr

Yea, wind and the moon being dark towards the end messed me up. And the smog from nyc.
[Off-topic] kinghorsey:
Very nice pics, everyone. It was too cloudy here so I missed out. Have pics from the last eclipse but still bummed I missed this once in a lifetime event.

Weather was favourable too... About -15C. Warmed up a but in the last week or so and each night perfectly clear up until last night.
[Off-topic] Gigamaster89:
What lens/settings did you use? There's no EXIF on flickr but it looks like you got pretty close.
[Off-topic] jaszek:
Canon 7D

70-200 f/2.8 L IS

1.4 TC

ISO 100

F/8 - f/5.6

SS Varied
[Off-topic] flyboyovyick:
Very nice pictures guys!!!!!

@jaszek: Could you make me a wallpaper out of your second image? Its very good!
[Off-topic] cajunflavoredbob:
Cool pictures, guys. I took mine with my little Nikon Coolpix S3000. (Let the ridicule begin... lol) I'm no pro photographer. I just took them on the auto setting with no flash and then cleaned them up some in PS.
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
How bout this pic I took?? :p

But yeah.. Amzing pics dude... :D
[Off-topic] flyboyovyick:
Did you take that while nipping out to get some cheese?:p:):D
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Haha ;)

Infact, Yes I think I was :p If you look closley you'll see Jaszek taking a pic in my direction ;D
[Off-topic] flyboyovyick:
Ah yes!! So the man in the moon must be you!!!:eek::eek:
[Off-topic] jaszek:
What size do you want it? And you want just the moon?
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
Shh..! Don't tell nasa.. They'll hunt me down :p
[Off-topic] flyboyovyick:
Could you do 1680x1050? With a nice big detailed moon! Thanks.

Ive already emailed them. They said they will find you................. :suspense:
[Off-topic] MacaronyMax:
*Runs to other side of moon*

Haha :p Another 24 hours before they can see me again ;)
[Off-topic] jaszek:
You can find a much more detailed picture of the moon online. lol.

I'll make it in a few.
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Great pic:)
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] zoobix:
I've had my Nexus S since it came out and I've been having terrible, consistent lag in the broswer. Even when I'm trying to view websites for mobile devices.

I understand that it can be laggy while the page is still loading but after its done it still lags. Choppy all over while scrolling. Pinch to zooming is also very choppy. My.Nexus One handled web browsing better with more framerates and less chop.

I've tried a factory reset and some other things

Anyone else having this issue?
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] cshih2:
same to me, very very disappointed with nexus s. from what i read so far there is no fix at all. i might switch back to Nexus one with snapdragon processor.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ikon8:
Hmm, I'm not experiencing this. Do you guys have flash installed, and if so, do you have it set to "On Demand"?
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] slowz3r:
Ya, im really not getting any sort of browser lag, at least nothing that i didnt experience in the N1
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ericc191:
I just picked mine up and do indeed experience browser lag before and after going to the market and installing flash 10.1. I set it to on demand for now, which fixes that problem, but I wish it would just work.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] allen099:
I also don't have much lag, but sometimes it is noticeable when flicking through apps. Install a task killer (like Advanced Task Killer) and see how much free RAM you have on top. That's most likely your issue. This phone has a painstakingly low amount of available RAM for us to use towards open apps. Cyanogen's ROMs usually double the amount, so can't wait for it to drop.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] cshih2:
Try movies.com and tba.com. very lag

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Smokexz:
It is the flash, not optimized for Hummingbird CPU, same on the Vibrant Froyo.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] -A-P-M-:
Today I have seen this hands on:

[YOUTUBE]scawEG9dryA[/YOUTUBE]

Look at 2:10 - isn't this too much lag ? I went to same page with my current HTC Desire and it scrolls up and down with almost no lag. :confused:
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] WilliamStern:
I'm good here without the lag as well.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] zoobix:
I uninstalled Flash Player just to see if it still did it and it does. Its very bad, almost unusable.. even on mobile pages.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] JupiterDroid:
Its because flash is not optimised for gingerbread yet, nothing more, nothing less;)

all will be solved in an update;)

JD
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ll_l_x_l_ll:
no thats not it.

its the stupid GPU that needs an driver update so the browser can use the gpu for better performance. the galaxy S has the same stupid issue

the desire hd and as far as i know the G2 has much better scrolling due to the gpu assist in the browsing.

you cant count on samsung to do anything right really .
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] gogol:
Eh, are you trolling here? Sorry, for asking that question.

Do you own Samsung Galaxy S? I guess not.

Read this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=873364&highlight=hummingbird

Android 2.2.1 update for Samsung Galaxy S did fix the browser lag.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ll_l_x_l_ll:
no i am not really. and yeah i did own a galaxy S. and now my bro who live with me has DHD. i was being serious. its not a 2.3 issue. because it lagged bad at 2.2 as well on galaxy S .. all it need is a driver. or some of the good guys here to fix it. like voodoo lag fix for example. but for the browser

you are not noticing . its not 2.3 with the issue. its the gpu it self. we are both agreeing that a driver can fix this. but a driver is for the hardware. not the 2.3 lol
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] gogol:
Yes, it could be.

And Samsung did fix that in the 2.2.1 update.

So, whatever that fix is ... it is NOT in the 2.3 on Nexus S (specifically).

I agree with you, this is not 2.3 specific issue, but Nexus S (because of the GPU).

However, still, I blame Google for this Nexus S browser lag issue. They are responsible for the software in the Nexus S.

Just hope it will be updated like the SGS 2.2.1.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] JupiterDroid:
Im still feeling its a Gingerbread/Flash issue... Ogdobber posted a temp fix earlier on this board, see if it fixes for you guys, if it does, it will prove this hypothesis.

JD
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] clubtech:
100% agree.

This was repeated enough times:

This is NOT a gingerbread issue.

This problem was also present in the SGS and was fixed by Samsung in the latest 2.2.1 release.

This problem was also present in the Galaxy Tab and was fixed in the latest leaked firmware.

This problem is currently in the Nexus S and needs to be fixed.

I don't know how exactly Samsung fixed it, but it looks like they enabled some sort of GPU acceleration in the browser.

For now, just use autokiller (needs root), set it to aggressive and the browser won't lag too much anymore.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] RogerPodacter:
This has already been covered with explanations in earlier threads. Just search. It will be fixed with an update.

It's a problem with the browser and hummingbird CPU combo. Software will fix it soon enough.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] zoobix:
I won't start another thread for this but is anyone losing cellular data ability when on a phone call?

I live in a good 3G area and thought this phone could do data/calls at the same time like my nexus one. The nexus s seems to drop data transferring completely.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] rocketragz:
i'm surprised there isn't more attention to this issue. are there not many having browser lag issues? i notice it's most common when moving left and right.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] slowz3r:
what lil lag i had seems to have gone away with the update
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ikon8:
I don't have any lag that's different from what I experienced on my N1. Also, on the first page someone included a video that showed the "terrible" browser lag, the page wasn't even finished loading yet when he was trying to swype up and down. People, this is no different than your desktop browser, you need to wait for pages to load before you start scrolling around, you can clearly see in the video that the loading bar at the top of the screen is still going while the guy is trying to scroll around, you have to wait for the page to render before you can start moving around.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] unremarked:
I'm not having any lag on either the stock browser or any of the third party browers I've tested with the exception of Fennec. One day, it'll be awesome... one day... /dream
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ogdobber:
try this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=881294
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] android_geoff:
i dont have lag when a page is mostly text

but i do when there are alot of pics on the page, or the xda page

flash set to on demand and i set ua string to desktop

also have the 2.3.1 update
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] oliver005:
You think that? Try to open a page like www.mthai.com and scroll around. Just be sure it's not a mobile version (open it on your pc to compare). It will kill your stock browser. Then try to open it in opera mobile or firefox (for android) it will be as fluid as on iphone.

Because you don't open heavy pages, it doesn't means there is no lag.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Memnoch30:
I have some pretty bad lag too. Mostly whenever there are images around it just kills the browser.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] clubtech:
With autokiller set to "aggressive" on my phone, i could browse the full version of mthai.com and it was not lagging as hard. that page has ton of flash content on it and ton of images.

I really think that the problem with the browser is the lack of allocated RAM to it because if you set autokiller to aggressive, the only thing it does is make sure any running app has more RAM to work on and that really kinda helps the browser.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] onthecouchagain:
Hm, if true, another reason to complain about not pushing the RAM specs.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] clubtech:
Not necessarily because again, Samsung were able to fix the problem on the Galaxy S phones and it has the same amount of RAM.

We can only hope Google is going to come up with a solution.

Other than the browser, i really like the Nexus S.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] RogerPodacter:
Engadget full version is a good test page to look for lag.

Also the old xda forum theme was buttery smooth. Then earlier this year when they upgraded the forum everything became a bit lag. But there was a link at the top of the forum to the old style, and it went right back to super smooth.

But I can't find that link anymore.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] scott.deagan:
Let's not beat around the bush here - the browser is laggy, simple as that. I note that there are folks here who claim their Nexus S browser is without lag. Does this mean buying a Nexus S is like a lucky dip? I just parted with £430 for a product that feels (quite frankly) half finished. I spend a lot of time using the browser on my mobiles, and this is what I get? Seriously?

And people above are replying with things like "...but Samsung fixed it eventually..." and "...use task killer...". WTF? So I just bought a £430 "smartphone" and I have to take it upon myself to fine-tune it just to make it perform as expected?

Google/Samsung ought to be ashamed of themselves. I feel like I've been conned.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] anndalis:
I have tried 2 Nexus S (Mine and my friend)

Both without any sort of lag..

I tried all the mentioned sites on this thread and all are working smoothly..
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] t3rabyte:
Yes, definitely lag in the browser on graphic intensive pages. Much worse than my N1. Text sites like Google Reader are fine. But check out ThisTV.com. I can't even scroll around at all. Pretty bad. I hope Google/Samsung come out with a fix soon or I may return this before 30 days. Which is a shame, because I do like this phone.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] jivemaster:
I'd say some parts of gingerbread create a greater demand on system resources than froyo. Looking at available ram for example, with the same installed programs and home setup on a Nexus One, there is on average 50-100mb of ram less available on the Nexus S. Scrolling in the app drawer is far smoother on the Nexus S however, which must be due to some kind of GPU acceleration on the drawer, but the home screens and the browser have stuttering and lag problems. There is no doubt that the Nexus S stock browser works worse than the stock Froyo browser.

Hopefully implementation of GPU acceleration of the browser in a patch will clear this up. Why this hasn't happened yet is beyond me. Windows 7 phones are as smooth as iPhones as far as browsing is concerned, because both use the GPU to assist rendering of pages.

Web browsing can be smooth on the Nexus when using apps like Opera Mobile. How Opera can make a faster and smoother browser than google is mind boogling. Considering the internet is google's business, you'd think the browser on android would be top shelf and ahead of everything.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Azure465:
Yeah, the new theme slowed thing down. It's fine on my mac, but its even laggy on some older PC's :p

edit: Opera Mobile works fine though, not a trace of any lag
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] RogerPodacter:
I've always wanted to know the answer to this, but all windows phone 7 devices use the same chip set as the original nexus one, and all are buttery smooth every where including the browser. So obviously the original snap dragon is capable. How did they do it and why can't we get similar performance on the nexus one? Even with custom ROMs like cyan etc?
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] dinan:
I think it comes down to the basic foundation that the actual OS was written. iOS and WM7 (they must've just copied iOS lol) seem to separate the animations and rendering, while Android does it on the fly. When you hold and drag on something in iOS or WM7, it's essentially dragging a picture tile and then once you let go, it renders the new result. Android seems to constantly render while you're dragging, which is why you don't get any checkerboarding or blurry text turning into sharp text with Android. You can see the same with pinch to zoom.

Although most of these are only really noticeable in the browser. Opera Mobile beta for Android uses the iOS and WM7 method of navigating... so if it's possible for a 3rd party to produce a GPU-based browser, I'm sure Google can do it too, it's just a question of whether they want to or see the need to. Samsung has already done it for their Galaxy S line.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] jivemaster:
It's definitely more visible than just in the browser. The home screen swiping is slow, even with stock only widgets.

GPU acceleration can be done without checkerboarding. Having the CPU do all the work for something that is so commonly used is simply mind boggling.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] m00nshake:
What lag are you experiencing? I just loaded engadget.com full website and it works just fine, just a little slow loading because I'm on an Edge network. I zoomed in and out a few times, didn't have any issues. So again, what lag are you experiencing?
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] bratfink:
Browser lag

I also experience terrible browser lag on my SNS and i will maybe upload a video later showing how unbelievably bad it is, scrolling let alone pinch to zoom is extremely delayed and frustrating.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] maxcav:
Anyone experiencing lag, please 'star' this issue at google code, maybe it helps.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13563
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ikon8:
I also don't get any lag at all when loading engadget full site. Are you guys trying to scroll around the page before the page is finished loading? If that's the case, of course it's gonna lag because it isn't finished rendering the page yet.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] bratfink:
Temporary solution

I was wondering about why some people are experiencing browser lag and some are not so i tried to think about what differences people have and i couldnt pin anything down, but i tried clearing cache and dalvik-cache from recovery and i have noticed considerable improvements in performance. So this may be a temporary solution for us..
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] deathst:
I could Pull that Galaxy S 2.2.1 Browser.apk for you all... It does seriously improve our browser speeds on the SGS and it is even better when we do what it says on

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=888788

The browser APK is Deodex already so it should be able to be replaced in /system/app Fine.. if you how to :)

Just Move the current browser.apk and browser.odex out of /system/app and Move this APK in :)
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] dinan:
Thanks but this won't work on a Nexus S... not as simple as just pulling an apk when the Nexus S doesn't have the drivers for it.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] theimpaler:
This is probably a stupid answer/question but couldn't the drivers from a SGS for the GPU be pulled out too and used on the SNS?

I assume these is a reason for which this isn't possible / is very difficult to do, but I thought I'd ask.. I mean the SGS and SNS are different hardware, but the underlying GPU is the same, and android can't have changed so drastically to prevent the older drivers from 2.2.1 working under 2.3 surely?

Like I said sorry if I'm being stupid and missing something simple! :)
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] jlevy73:
By the way, that's not the right issue tracker. That only deals with home screen lag, we need the one that is for browser lag. I know this because I posted in there and got a response from Google saying good point, wrong bug tracker post :o
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Chinpokomon:
I haven't looked, but I'm sure it is a different kernel version. For that reason, you won't be able to just copy it and make it work. It MIGHT be possible to find the correct references and patch it, but I wouldn't count on it.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ondrejkout:
default browser in my nexus s lags only when battery is empty. it's curious.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] terodeg:
i experimenter few lags with adobe flash active!
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] princeasi:
The new 2.3.2 update seems to have improved the lag a little bit. It's not much, but is noticeable.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] willcpfc:
My solution is miren browser with flash settings as on demand...it quite smooth.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] jlevy73:
That's a nice browser however it's still pretty laggy for me. Check out androidcentral.com and scroll around, you'll see what I mean.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] willcpfc:
No its not perfect....better for me though :) and I enjoy miren very much which I discovered while trying to improve the lag issue.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] devolute:
Just to weigh in, I sometimes get annoyingly major browser lag and I've never installed Flash.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Kalimdor:
I prefer opera ... but only for smooth scrolling :)
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] ekerazha:
The browser on the Nexus S is rather laggy, with or without Adobe Flash.

Please star this issue: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13404

However, it's just a bit better if you use an alternative browser like Dolphin Browser HD.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] buachaille:
I'm all clear here. Browser is nice and quick. Only had the phone for about 2 weeks though, but if there was a problem I'd have noticed it by now.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] buachaille:
I just tried androidcentral and scrolling was smooth.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] dario3040:
Its just that the browser doesn't have hardware acceleration.

The htc phones have that in the browser, you can also try dolphin browser which is a lot better, not perfect but better :)
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] CB620:
I only have problems on certain sites with alot going on in the background.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] buachaille:
Hmm, I have to confess you are right. Browser was acting like a dog on that page, and that was me using dolphin hd. haven't even tried it in default browser. Probably just the same.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] dman777:
I have found that if you use setcpu with the maximum speed set to stock 1000Mhz, but you put setcpu on "performance" it will get rid of the lag with flash videos in the stock browser.

Be it though, that is a pain just when you are watching videos.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] meetagrawal:
I don't believe anyone that says browsing on their NS is "smooth"

You must have never actually used the iOS browser, if you can call this one "smooth"
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Haizum74:
Been smooth as for me, no jitter at all.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] dman777:
hey, i tried out the new netarchy 1.2.5 cfs kernel and i don't get any lag with the browser nor with the browser playing flash. i'm not using any overclocking with it.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Mekano:
Can somebody confirm this kernel is fixing the issue ? Actually, it's the only point that keeps me away from buying this phone at the moment. I want the best web experience possible as i browse web a lot on my phone.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] zephiK:
its smooth for me..

go into settings -> enable plugins -> on demand
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] princeasi:
I do notice a difference with browsing the web on NS compared to the N1. The N1 is much smoother. My gripe is not so much with the smoothness, more so with the delay of going to different web pages. I find myself having to click a link a few times or moving the page around before it actually changes to the site I'm trying to view. Anyone else with this problem?

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] hoseth0711:
Yup, i got the same prob
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] Lou2serious:
I've had this problem on different custom roms and I'm starting to suspect its a combination of gingerbread with the the hummingbird processor. Every hummingbird equipped phone/tablet I've used is short on ram and tends to freeze up. I've even seen a setting while running cm7 that shows 346mb as the maximum ram. I've never had more than 190mb free even after a fresh reboot. I believe this problem is related to Samsungs hardware and most likely there's no way to fix it!

This is what I get from quadrant's system info option

https://picasaweb.google.com/m/view...rious/5583773041395255521/5583778889197375010