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[EVO 4G Android Development] DroidGnome:
Well at the risk of being yelled at again :) I can take a stab at this since I had done some extensive testing a while ago on the market.

There is in fact a Market cache, and it too can be moved to the SD card via standard Linux Links. There was a script around here on XDA that even walked you through the commands to move your market cache to the SD card.

HOWEVER... it appears that something in the Market app itself still utilizes /cache for temporarily downloading of apps.

The way I figured this out was that I had moved the cache to my SD via that script (Found the scripts here).

I then tried to install some larger apps, specifically Angry Birds, Firefox and a few others.. nothing would install (I had only 20megs free in /cache due to a large dalvik)

Afterwards I checked the market cache folder and there were in fact files in the cache folder so I know it moved something there.

I then removed dalvik but left the cache for market in place... downloads happend just fine, and I even FOUND them in the /cache partition afterwards, though they were named differently than the actual app.

My conclusion was that while the market may have it's own /cache folder, it's still hard coded somewhere to use the original /cache for downloads.

Hope that helps.. maybe future versions of the market will allow a setting for temporary file downloads.

UPDATE: just saw your update.. your scripts seems more robust than what I used.. maybe the scripts I used didn't move ALL items.. hmm love to know your end results.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
An idea I had, feedback ??

Back in my early days of modding phones, I could setup my Motorola Razor (yes, it's been that long!:o) with a nice theme, wipe my personal data, and make what was called a "Monster Pack" that others could flash and replicate my exact setup.

Now, there is no real way to do that with our EVOs that I am aware of, but I was wondering about the following scenario, since I am such an ardent believer in MikFroyo and its superiority over other ROMs out there:

1) I state clearly what my setup is (i.e. apps2sd w/ext3 or not, my phone hardware version HW_003, etc..) so I know others are on the same page.

2) I get the basic setup fixed. Maybe with a theme, maybe without, perhaps with a kernel that has worked well for me.

3) I make a nandroid backup of my setup

4) I do a full wipe (Factory reset)

5) I do another nandroid after the wiping is done

6) Copy the contents of the latest, wiped nandroid to my computer (just the .img files inside that last backup, since each nandroid resides in a folder named according to your phone's id)

7) Zip those files up and make available to noobs to help get them jump started.

8) Said noob d/l's zip, unzips and copies those .img files to a nandroid folder on his sd card

9) Noob restores that nandroid

10) Noob reboots and has a properly configured copy of MikFroyo from which to begin.

So, what does everyone think? Would this work or have I overlooked something?
[EVO 4G Android Development] emuview:
First kick Murphy out of your spare room...lol

I would say its junk!
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
I did a search 1st but wow theres a lot to of 4g discussions so im asking if anyone knows how to fix the issue of my 4g connecting then disconnecting or just not staying connected
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
You will NEVER be yelled at for trying to help... That's why this thread is so great even if your wrong its the thought that you tried and one of our senior senior members will step in and help if you got it wrong (mik, jk, Mitch, raybudd, Chogard)... So don't ever hesitate to help...

And since I'm posting I'm gonna go ahead and apologize for what I said earlier... But like everybody said, this is our holy land and were all VERY loyal to it....

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Although HTC claims that their battery will charge at 1000 ma, this is not true in actual practice. It will charge at only about 650 ma. The reason for this is to provide a margin of safety in case all batteries are not binned to handle the full 1000 ma. A LIPO battery fire is not a pretty thing so they err on the side of safety.

That being said, usb chargers charge at a maximum of 500 ma. If you are using your phone for streaming, navigating or anything else intensive while charging at 500 ma, it IS possible to run out of juice even though you are plugged in. In other words, the hole at the bottom of the jug is bigger than the hole at the top.

Couple solutions:

1) Buy a charger that is rated at 800 to 1000 ma and plugs directly into AC power.

2) If you are going to charge the phone in the car, either get a cigarette lighter charger that is rated at 800 to 1000 ma -or- get a power inverter that plugs into your lighter and then plug your household charger cord into that.

** I use a power inverter in my car (good thing to have in case I need AC power for anything else) and I run navigator non-stop for hours and still end up topping off the battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
AmonRa told me when I pm'ed him about pretty much the same thing that what your saying is possible but to NEVER include the wimax.img because the person receiving the nandroid will lose their rsa keys.

So yes you can. But be sure it the nand backup is a fresh flash without any apps or signing into google.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Not gonna lie... Don't know if its cause I'm young or what but I totally don't get that... little help?

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
As far as the folder for the nandroid, Name it whatever just dont include spaces. Its best to have the folder so they can just extract it directly to the htcxxxxx folder inside the nandroid folder.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
My phone will literally be sitting on my nightstand sleeping and ill look at it and ill have negative mA in my history... If I let it sit long enough it'll eventually charge like its supposed to but like you said if I use it I get the "power demand is greater than power supply" message...

If it was totally broke that'd be one thing but that it works on and off and says USB instead of AC sometimes just baffles my fragile little mind...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Thanks chogard for the feedback..Yes I was only thinking of BDS (boot, data, system) nandroid and doing a full wipe before making the snapshot.

Probably won't ever need to do this, we all have been able to talk everyone who will follow our recommendations to eventually get up and running..I was just feeling whimsical about the "Good old Days" as "us Old-timers" (as Mik calls me:)) had a simple way to basically bootstrap someone up into the most desireable configuration and save them a lot of flashing in the progress.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
You are obviously a bright guy and can be a valuable addition to the team here. However, just try starting a new job and complaining in the morning meeting of your first day that you don't like how the office is being run and see how well that goes over.

Humility + Helping = Earned Respect

Ok, that being said, I don't know. It makes sense on some level, however, my Dalvik has always been on my /data/ partition and I was having issues with updates bogging down.

I have since increased my dalvik heap (vmheap) to 48 and the market seems much more responsive. Perhaps that is the answer?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Who says whimsical anymore? ;-)

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Murphy's law: "What can go wrong will go wrong!"
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Get a magnifying glass out and read what the ma rating is on your charger. Also, when buying chargers, the fatter the cord, the better.
[EVO 4G Android Development] emuview:
Murphys Law...any thing that can go wrong will go wrong (something like that)

And yes I am an old timer.

But your stock charger should report AC not USB.

IMHO
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Now were good!!! I didn't know we were referencing Murphys law!! Now I can laugh with everybody else... I'm like ATT... The last to get anything good...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
I guess just us "old timers" you young whippersnapper!!:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] dh350nwo:
A noble concept, but with all the differing he versions and some that lack reading comprehension I think it would lead to more problems than it would resolve. Besides would you want to be under a microscope because your nand boogered some noobs unit.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Does the "ma" rating on my daughter's charger mean I shouldn't let her use it until she is old enough:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
1st off I'm 22 so I totally cant argue with the "young whippersnapper" comment

2nd, input is 240mA. output is 5v=1,0A

Edit: Could it be the extension chord its plugged into? That was one thought but the ****ty Samsung moment charger works off the same extension chord...

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] kast107:
Try updating your profile first. If that still doesn't work check out this thread (posted about 600 pages ago by Mitch). I take no credit for the fix or for finding it, all I know is that I tried that fix and haven't had a problem since.

Hope this helps.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=733773
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Try looking here and here. Hope this helps.

Edit: A little too slow but I did add another link.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dh350nwo:
Just would like to report a random FC on my current setup. It has happened before and I'm inclined to think it is just a random quirk.
[EVO 4G Android Development] emuview:
Again your phone should see this as AC, if it's showing USB I think you have a charger going south.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
You should be fine then. Of course there is the possibility that your cord has short in it.

Also, if you 3500 mah battery one of those $5 Chinese knockoffs?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
CRAP!!!!

Other note... Dialer/phone is laggy as hell!!

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Full wipe (boot and system too), download MikFroyo 4.5 beta V (see my signature for link) and flash.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
No..... Maybe :-(

Edit: It was .93 and $5 to ship... HOW CAN I SAY NO?!?!?

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
In my experience with charging wires, sometimes after much abuse they start to act funny. Like Mitch, I think, said bigger the wire the better. If you are like my wife and run over the cord with the desk chair it can cause the wires inside to thin out causing less mA to go through making your phone think it is a usb charge.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
aaron,

You are not allowed to ask a single additional question until you put your full setup in your signature. It is too hard to help you without knowing what you are running.

Hit, User CP at the top of the page then "Edit Signature" at the left of the page it links too. Come back when you are done.
[EVO 4G Android Development] killhr:
Got it and thanks its all good now this is a great forum with a great Fnnnn Rom
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
If you pay $5 for a $50 battery, don't be surprised if you get 1/10 the performance.

Those "3500 mah" Chinese batteries are really just two non-binned (read, "crap") batteries from manufacturers that are soldered together and then wrapped in a pretty package. They are selling you the batteries that didn't meet their standards and would otherwise have just thrown away. Doesn't mean they are useless, they are just seconds.

One semi-reliable way to determine the true mah of your battery is to drain it to zero, then time how long it takes to fully charge. Multiply that number by an average ma of 650 and you have you true mah.

For instance, a 1500 mah stock oem battery should take about 1500/650 = 2.3 hours to fully charge from empty. So, if your battery really is 3500 mah, it should take 3500/650 = 5.38 hours to charge. So if yours take 3.2 hours to charge, it is a (3.2 x 650) 2000 mah battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I pretty much only use the xda app but ill do it now :-(

(Why do I feel like a child that just got in trouble?)

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
LOL...its just his way of making you a full MikFroyo member.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tolo3:
If you read back some you could click the thanks button. But thanks.

From the void that is my mind.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
The good thing about putting the details in your signature (see link in mine for instructions also) is that even if you post from XDA app, those of us viewing on a PC/Mac will see the signature even though you don't via XDA app!

Now, when you are done with the signature, clean your room and take out the trash!:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Rule #3 perhaps? Like an initiation. jklong for sure started it though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] emuview:
I have the right to be wrong,

so just put in your stock battery and see if it reports AC charge.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
That "From the void that is my mind" indicates they are probably posting via XDA or TapaTalk, hence no Thanks button! Just thought inquiring minds might want to know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Ok, we really need to start writing down these "rules..." :D

BTW - stock HTC Chintastic charger is rated at 200mA for those who don't know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] noregretzzzz:
Good call mitch on upping the heap size. I was having trouble all day installing beautiful widgets, and heap size did the trick. I'll b sure to give thanks next time I'm on my pc :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I think I got it:

Rule #1: Read the OP (all posts)

Rule #1.5: Read the last 10 or so pages before asking

Rule #2: If you post a screenshot, you must list all widgets, wallpaper, etc.

Rule #3: You must make a signature to expect help

And if I may add:

Unspoken Rule: HAVE FUN!
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
My guess would be that it at times is only putting out enough juice that the phone thinks it is plugged into USB. With my phone using USB will for some strange reason

cause a partial wake lock even with screen off and the only way I can clear that is a reboot. Otherwise it will cause large battery drain due to the wake lock.

I would look into getting another charger.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Now lets get amikam to put it on the OP.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tolo3:
I use my bb charger for night... also bought two spare batteries plus ac charger cheap off amazon. It charges my batteries to 4.16 volts. Takes long enough they never get warm. Works for me.

From the void that is my mind.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dh350nwo:
Yeah that is the plan once final is released. It doesn't occur frequently enough to be a problem for me. Gonna flash a new kernel too, this SBC 15 doesn't seem to be giving the life i expected. Gonna try nets 4.3.1 bfs, havs more along with 4.5 final. Thanks Mitch.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
roflmao +1
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
But then the people who don't know the rules won't see the rules..... It's like a vicious circle. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] suboveryde:
Any ideas on why chogardjr theme fails to boot for me after deleting lockscreen? Clean flash, wiping dalvik cache..had to push lockscreen back to system/apps to get phone to boot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
I'm obeying all the rules now!!!! Yay me!!! Is this good for everybody or is there something else I should add?

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] tolo3:
Lol. He was thanking me verbally but yes, I am using xda app. Let's me hold my EVO more.... and I can check to see if a mik posts final version more often :)

From the void that is my mind.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Pull the battery and let it boot up again... Did that to me and like 10 other people

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I think he said not to delete the lockscreen and that flashing the theme does it for you.

Edit: see here
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Well I guess as the "unofficial" signature police around these parts....I'd say...."it'll do fer now";)
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
Seriously if theres anything else you guys want ill put it up... It's just hard to make it pretty from my phone

And on the battery discussion.. The cheap battery isn't giving me ANY issues... It's the charger

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
Its already been said, but yes, DO NOT DELETE THE HTCLOCKSCREEN.APK! Just flash his rotary lock mod and it'll do everything that is needed on its own!
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
Yea how about adding "FC KING" ..... LoL just kidding.... i been lurking all day and the posts you posted was all the probelms you were having with FC's :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
Swap positions of 2 & 3 IMHO.

And what would really work is a pop up that displayed the rules when they click on the thread...be hard to miss then. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] ckoadiyn:
hw version just in case it has to do w it sometimes it does lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
I have said this before, I include the wipes and deletions that are needed into the script to flash my theme/mods. My theme deletes the caches for you and the rotary mod will delete the htclockscreen for you. You don't have to do anything but flash.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jklong03:
Your looking at the input current draw. It'll be less than the stated 1ma output @ 5vdc because...oh hell, I'm a EE and it makes sense to me but too hard to explain adequately. Basically, take input current x input voltage, add in a bunch of transformer losses as it gets stepped down to 5vdc output and you get the 1ma output current available.

Think of it this way, you have a garden hose with a spray nozzle attached...the water entering the nozzle is at a lower current (i.e. lower pressure) but higher volume of water (input voltage), but when you push it through the nozzle, it comes out at a higher current (pressure) but there is less total volume (voltage) than was available in the hose to begin with. I don't know, does that make any sense??
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
It's still only happened those 2 times from earlier comin out of the browser so I'm think were good!!!!

HW: 003

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] suboveryde:
Ok ok now I feel like an a$$..i catch up with these posts 5-6 times a day and that is just on the weekends. How did I miss the response to my own question? Seriously my bad didn't mean to ask the same question twice. I really did read todays posts just missed that some how. Thanks for the help
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Lol...nice job!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] emuview:
Well stated!

From an old Ham.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
bfs is problematic.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cetac:
Perfectly explained without all the tech. details IMO. thank you. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Its cool. XDA app isn't showing you my sig that says no wiping. Don't worry about it. And thanks to all the guys who answered before me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
I was just putting them in the order that they have come up in the thread, not really in order of importance. Not a bad idea on the pop up, don't know if xda does that. But then someone will say his popup blocker blocked it..... There's always something.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
It's just too hard to answer your questions without knowing your setup. The easier you make it for us to help you, the more we'll help you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aaronw143:
In case you haven't noticed I KNOW you guys know better than me and I just do what I'm told ;-)

By the way I did take the trash out and my rooms clean now! .(I forget who told me to do that)

This is my EVO, there are many like it, but this one is mine...
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
My term: Its junk, barely adequate for the stock battery let alone for the higher capacity batteries, especially if you are going to use the phone while plugged in :D

Btw, I know all to well of electrical formula's, ohm's law, etc. Electrician is my trade, p0rnstar is my job (j/k'ing)...
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
BFS is ok as long as you don't try to manage it. As in my sig I use it and never have any problems. Don't OC it. I only change the gov to either smartass, ondemand or conservative.

Also I only use OS Monitor to do that. Yes I paid for SetCpu that I don't use but only because I found it to be problematic and a memory/CPU hog.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
LOL.............
[EVO 4G Android Development] dh350nwo:
Even on 4.3.1? I know on 4.3.2 there have been complaints of 4g not functioning properly, but haven't seen that stated with the current stable build. It really shouldn't matter much I have both 4.3.1 builds downed right now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jconway:
Issue with phone button during calls

Question...When I am on a phone call and I go to another screen and want to return back to the phone call screen (the screen with the caller pic and speaker/mute phone buttons), I hit the phone icon and it takes me to the dialer screen, not the existing phone call screen.

On the stock rom, it will take you back to the phone call screen.

Anyone know a way to fix this? I did not see anything under rosie settings that would help.l

I am using v4.4.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
Officially there's no 4g problem on 4.3.1 bfs but it kept locking up for me when I shut off 4g so I went to 4.3.2 cfs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jadeboy7:
It's a known issue and I believe it's fixed in 4.5.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1BadHEMI:
I think Mik fixed this in the current beta. I haven't tested it yet. Barely used my phone today.

nvm... jade beat me to it!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nygel:
wow thats nailing it down, and as I recall it does not do that on the 3.70 release. (please correct me if mistaken), but it always goes back to dialer, incase you have to input digits.....

just double check and it does go back to caller id screen...... idk you might need to perform a reflash,,,all issue can be eliminated if you perform a clean wipe on first install...
[EVO 4G Android Development] suboveryde:
Was on a call today and when I hit the phone button it took me back to dialer and not the incall screen. I'm on beta 5.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
That will not fix it unless he's flashing 4.5 I think specifically b4&5.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Nygel:
again caller id screen return works fine for me....Beta 4.5-5

just tried it again on a call and it return to th id screen ok
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Are you using a theme?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Becoming:
That happened to me once before (i think on 4.3). I couldn't pin down the issue either, but after a full wipe and reflash it went back to normal.

/shrug

Worth a shot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] suboveryde:
Using your theme
[EVO 4G Android Development] localguyincali:
Actually i just tested this, and im on beta 3, if i went to another screen then back to callers screen i hit the back button down at bottom, or use the notifcation bar drag down click on caller and your back at the callers screen :)