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[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Re: advertising... I see ads on 76 gas pump mounted tv's... that's about it, unless its a dual ad with the evo up front... oh and re: "false" froyo update, this community is where that originated, with someone using *official* referring to a test build, and people/websites inferring what they want to hear...
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
It's official, no froyo on 12/26

http://briefmobile.com/samsung-epic-4g-no-android-2-2-froyo-update-on-1226
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
Lame!! Oh well just another hope goes down...once again. Now I'm ready to eat my turkey :)

Sent from Maxwell's shoe.
[Epic 4G General] iil:
Yes..our moderators blog briefmobile is for sure the most credible and defitinitive news source of all things sprint / samsung epic!
[Epic 4G General] MojoSwag:
So the question has to asked, how in the hell did the original leaker fake an internal Sprint document from their own system? I used to work at one of the call centers at Sprint so the original leaked image is indeed from KMS, sprints internal knowledge base. I think its safe to say that whosdaman works at the retail level so his is legit as well. Sadly this isn't uncommon in the sprint ecosystem of things. So WHOSDAMAN, any idea if somethiing just might roll out soooner than later?
[Epic 4G General] iil:
What I find interesting is that this might be the second release canidate pulled back at the last min.

They are rushing to get something out..I am sure someone is putting pressure on someone to get it done.

I for one am going to keep an eye out at the samsung site, they obviously prepping for something..whether it be DL15 or something else.
[Epic 4G General] iil:
Also whodaman, any idea why your source is comfortable possiby leaking DL19 but not DL15. What has changed in the last week?

It sounds like each employee is given their own unique build that is tied to them individually too...is Sprint really this protective?
[Epic 4G General] dito33:
Something tells me that Epic is F...Up phone and things go wrong that's why they can get it write on time.

dito33
[Epic 4G General] Bigjim1488:
This is making me want to trade my epic for an evo. Whats the point of a phone with a keyboard that skips keys anyways? Common epic don't let me down!:mad:
[Epic 4G General] Leviuqse:
+1

I agree,
[Epic 4G General] flopez76:
If they get gingerbread before we get official FroYo then I will. But I love my Epic
[Epic 4G General] raylusk:
You are right, my sarcasm was unnecessary. No excuse but I am sorry about the way I wrote that.

As far as Sprint, I think the main problem is that they have not pushed on Samsung hard enough. I know this is drastic but as far as I am concerned Sprint should say exactly what is going on with the update, what Sprint has been doing to encourage Samsung to get it done, and why Samsung can't get it done. In other words toss Samsung to the wolves. Sprint simply has not been looking out for their epic customers.
[Epic 4G General] dcowboys2184:
wished i worked at sprint i'll leak all builds just cause all the run around they giving us
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
From my customer experience, and what I see here, sprint reminds me a lot of MS around here (seattle area), I know plenty of ms workers who have no idea what happens outside their cubicle... intentionally very compartmentalized, so people working on the same projects have no idea what the other is doing until their work needs to be put together. My point, sounds like weekly builds, one MAY drop the 26th, or not, and they will keep moving... were going to have to wait and see... the other threads don't exactly conflict w yours whosdaman, just different bits of info.

So sounds like its confirmed the 'playbook' CAN lack this info, there may be a 19, but 11 COULD still drop... I can see not telling retail about this on Monday if it MAY drop the following Sunday... it could be canceled, and then retail would again misinform (my epic was supposed to be updated in sept, according to my fav sales rep... and he may have been told that. Can we see a '.4' of any of these builds???
[Epic 4G General] i_guana:
Oh, LOL... Ok. Makes sense to me. :p
[Epic 4G General] uranidiot:
WELL NOW since samsung failed to keep their promise to release froyo before year end, i demand either $150 rebate or eliminate that $10 until froyo or gingerbread comes out:p i can dream but really, I'll NEVER BUY A SAMSUNG PHONE AGAIN!:mad: an INCOMPLETE, BUGGY PHONE SHOULDN'T COST THAT MUCH!
[Epic 4G General] kalico17:
everybody just needs something to complain about..

if froyo comes out tomorrow good

if it doesnt, who cares. theres plenty of roms to flash on this phone..
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
+1 for this. I'd much rather run noobnls cm or an acs rom than an official build anyhow
[Epic 4G General] DiGi760:
Yes, Sprint is VERY compartmentalized and tight lipped. Also, a clarification about the playbook - It releases on Wednesday afternoon so retailers can use it on Thursday and Friday to prepare for the weekend and the coming week. It isn't a Monday thing.

Also, it is correct that they don't always warn us in advance of updates, but we generally see the big ones in the playbook before they happen.

I don't expect an ota update tomorrow, but I'll be checking in here anyway.
[Epic 4G General] DiGi760:
Sure, there are good roms out there, but they are limited in what they can do with 2.2 until we finally get the source code. That is the real reason we want an official update. I want an oc/uv froyo kernel, and that's just the beginning of what will be done once we have an official framework and source to work with. I could care less about actually running the official release, but we need it to continue development.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Yes sprint really is this tight. And I'm not sure if the builds are different you not depending on the employee. I know that there are two sources we have, and I don't talk to either of them directly
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Oh ya I mentioned wanting source in another post to make it easier on the devs.
[Epic 4G General] iil:
Interesting. The comment on your blog about the kms document being no longer available sealed the deal for me that there will be no update manana.

I think it would be a good PR move for sprint or any carrier for that matter to be much more open with the community. I tink most of us just want to be able to see what the ongoing status is rather it being a mystery.
[Epic 4G General] decalex:
Hmm.. so what time zone?

Sent from the future.
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
What time zone what?
[Epic 4G General] imtjnotu:
u are slow when itcomes too roms I take it....with dk28 there is nothing we can really do to them no true krnel tweaks no asop no nothing but a plain rom themed up...we want source u fool even for cm6 it would make development a lot easier if we had an actual source...
[Epic 4G General] iil:
I support non techy people who need this update to access the right applications for their business. The last thing I want to do is root their phone for them just to odin it back later to get them the correct update.

Not everyones situation is the same.
[Epic 4G General] ptfdmedic:
http://www.phonedog.com/2010/12/24/samsung-epic-4g-not-getting-froyo-on-dec-26th-after-all/

Looks like we may have to wait...
[Epic 4G General] ryno502:
That article is quoting the same one article saying no froyo. Not to mention that gmail screen shot looks kinda off.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Ok... its been 13 mins on the east coast??? Where's Froyo?! Where's the roms???? Jeez... quit slackin...

Hahaha... sorry... this is all very funny to me at this point... oh and where's honeycomb, SAMMY,SPRINT, AND THE DEVS OWE ME... JUST BECAUSE I SIGNED ON HERE

Had to make the first ridiculous *****ing post.
[Epic 4G General] uranidiot:
lol new slogan for the samsung epic. "the Samsung Epic, the first and last Samsung phone you'll ever want to buy":D
[Epic 4G General] EvilJames:
I would be shocked if we did get the update today. Its sprint, they are the slowest company to release updates for things. Imo. It actually hurts them in so many different ways. At this point you think they would be kissing apple's butt to get iphones,not that I would buy one, but they choose to always be behind everyone else.
[Epic 4G General] iil:
Eh, I don't think sprint is any slower than verizon, att, or tmobile. Are there versions of galaxy s updated to 2.2?
[Epic 4G General] boogief1:
No Froyo For us

http://www.phonedog.com/2010/12/24/samsung-epic-4g-not-getting-froyo-on-dec-26th-after-all/
[Epic 4G General] ericizzy1:
great find, you are the first person to post this today. thank you
[Epic 4G General] adamr240:
Replace Epic with Moment for me. I hate this damn thing.
[Epic 4G General] markstibbyspot:
Yeah I bought into all th epic hype. #1 android, did not live up to its name.
[Epic 4G General] kuribox:
What?!? :confused: mmm... bad new's for us, esto apesta, :mad:
[Epic 4G General] dcowboys2184:
Damn sammy .... Why did I leave tmobile?
[Epic 4G General] ericizzy1:
because of the worst reception ever
[Epic 4G General] dcowboys2184:
True that.... And I have 3g in my area as with t mobile barely had a Edge connection!
[Epic 4G General] ashtro:
lol...wow that took a second to render...considering that there is only 28 days in the month....and the 33rd of Nevuary is hilarious...
[Epic 4G General] hydralisk:
Wow... ANOTHER Froyo release date turns out to be just a silly rumor? SURPRISE!

Not like I care anymore. I just pretend like this phone will never be updated and that gets me by.
[Epic 4G General] leatherneck6017:
You. Are. A. Retard.

Sent from my Emotionlessly Bonsai'd Epic 4g.
[Epic 4G General] kbnguy:
Well... I don't mean to personal attack anyone but "a retard" is what OP looks like right now...
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
+1.

Atleast dk28 gives the basics of froyo.
[Epic 4G General] live2ride96:
Well, they want to wait until the DN14 release is ready to release. You get no froyo til February. Ha ha. :p .......... Sorry. :(
[Epic 4G General] deisel:
I'm in shock that they released the nexus s basically the same phone but w gingerbread and we get nothing no froyo dirty
[Epic 4G General] jdclucidly:
Well I have the NS and I think it makes a lot of business sense. Google could release it without threatening the carriers with hardware they can't get anywhere else--they all already had Galaxy S phones. And Samsung gets to make a boat-load of money reselling a piece of hardware they've already been making for 6 months while Google takes on the responsibility of rolling out firmware updates. And I get a phone that actually gets updates. Everybody wins.

Well, everyone but people who bought the other GS phones. My partner has one from work, too. Yes, the situation sucks.

So, next time vote with your wallet buy stock Android. Tell these carriers what we want!
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
That would be EN14.
[Epic 4G General] bullet2300:
I just hope we get a new leaked version that fixes GPS and stuff... I'd be mega happy then :P
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
I'm running DK17 and my GPS is perfect*. It's the only reason I haven't changed leaks yet.

* Yes, I've tested GPS according to the guidelines laid out by Aero1 and others.
[Epic 4G General] xeonbuilder:
I dont give a rats about what I run but I wish i could get this dam Bluetooth voice dialing to work. That alone would shut me the f up...
[Epic 4G General] bentiger:
Froyo in testing with Sprint. It has cleared Samsung's tests, but it hasn't cleared Sprint's tests, yet. As soon as they clear it past their tests, it goes to Google for a final series of tests, prior to the actual OTA release.
[Epic 4G General] shook187:
I'm glad just the plan old dk28 on a sock rom is working for me just fine for me. I only have one bug to deal with. The phone is still very much usable.
[Epic 4G General] cary328is:
Merry Christmas to everyone here
[Epic 4G General] Orbiting234:
Actually, that would be EB14. :P
[Epic 4G General] lviv73:
These phones are basicly pc's so why dont they be updated in a pc manner,when new os comes out we install it on the phone and download and install missing drivers from manufacturer.Why they dont do it like that?
[Epic 4G General] bullet2300:
Sadly I wasn't about to get closer than 2000 meter location :( I was able to do the fix, which worked for a bit, but after about 3-4 days it was back to 2000 meters. Worthless for me :(
[Epic 4G General] apatcas:
Ur gonna hear a **** ton of MS bull**** now... i actually agree with you
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
Just as I thought - there is no Christmas miracle... :(

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] MaxPatlick:
can't say I'm surprised that the dec 26 date came and went without official froyo.. Thank you leakers and rom makers for providing what sprint/samsung cannot :)

damn that sucks.. Even without GPS, I guess just using 3g towers (?) I can get 1000 meter resolution.. Using wifi ~40m and using GPS 3-4m
[Epic 4G General] DiGi760:
Does a cold-starting the gps make any difference? How about rebooting the phone?
[Epic 4G General] rs98799:
:( indeed.
[Epic 4G General] uranidiot:
Lol so wait a minute lol what happened to the intercept froyo update then lol. Also No one can explain how out of the blue the intercept has froyo and our epic doesn't. Epic FAIL!
[Epic 4G General] visions138:
I think I just peed a little hahaha
[Epic 4G General] live2ride96:
Damn, you guys get technical. LOL. It was just a joke. I just didn't really care enough to go back and change it. Now I'm just killing time. :p
[Epic 4G General] bullet2300:
None work for long. Sometimes I am able to get it to work, other times I am not... no matter what I do it seems to stop working after a day or so. If I go back to stock, it works every time, all the time.

No one else is having GPS issues with Froyo?
[Epic 4G General] xeonbuilder:
My GPS actually works great. Its accurate to about 5ft. No joke its really accurate. Im using that leaked Froyo too...
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Same here. It worked on the leaked version, and still working on the Nebula Rom v1.0.5 for me
[Epic 4G General] bullet2300:
Wow, what ROM are you running?

I've had bad GPS with EE, Viper, and the stock DK28, so I gave up and went back to stock 2.1
[Epic 4G General] diego1985:
Since that butt hole moderator or xda security deleted the other froyo threads. Why don't he delete this one with the Dec 26 date for froyo. P.S. The clown with the alligator logo.
[Epic 4G General] hoffman1984:
Samsung Live Chat

So, i've been checking back with Sprint about every 2 weeks for the past 2 months about this 2.2 update... They finally told me just to talk to Samsung directly, so i went and registered my phone, and...
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Butthole doesn't have space between it no matter what Firefox's spellcheck says.

Well, that was about what I would expect from a minimum-wage worker in India. They only have scripts.

We will know when we have it when we have it. Not telling you to shut up or that your opinion and feelings are invalid, just commenting on your post with my thoughts which may or may not be valid to or appreciative of your emotional well-being.
[Epic 4G General] hoffman1984:
lol @ my emotional well being... I was simply giving this ridiculous thread some well deserved closure. Starting to wonder if that was such a great idea.

Taking time out of my lunch break to satisfy strangers might come to a screeching halt... WAH... :cool:
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
I think we're both of like mind. My response, too, was not meant to contribute anything more than a little extra absurdity to this thread. Please don't take my dry humor personally as it was more directed to the people who, oddly enough, take anything said about this phone way too seriously.

I don't have a preference as to when we get it, myself. I'm happily plodding along with my Quantum ROM 1.4 (DK17) (It works perfectly for everything and don't wanna take a chance screwing my GPS up) and don't see any reason to upgrade right now. Well, except for the "fixed" memory management we should expect on the release...but if that bothered me too much, I'd just go back to 2.1 stock.

And what's with the kids waggling their e-peens here? My god, have they never lived outside of their mom's basement? "Say something to me confrontational and I'll kick your ass!!!!!11oneoneone!!1111" Sheesh. Take it to the gym, boys.
[Epic 4G General] xjman:
I guess I'll keep this tread going with a healthy usless post.

I'm going to throw another date out there, it doesn't matter.
[Epic 4G General] hoffman1984:
Lol it's all good... I'm sick of all th crap myself.. I'm running the dk28 "leak" lol. And to be quite honest, it runs great. I've had no issues any of the above mentioned. My only problem is battery. Seems to die about an hour earlier now. Other than that it's holding up great. Cheers to some humor... I hope to be making more (useful) posts in the future. Lol
[Epic 4G General] xeonbuilder:
Im using the first leaked one that was on this site. Nothing special. All I know is that the GPS is super accurate for me at least. when i run Google maps, that blue bubble around your location is almost totally gone and It actually moves even when i turn the phone.

Its practically shows me exactly where Im parked. lol..
[Epic 4G General] herbthehammer:
I'm getting tired of this waiting game BS! I get so mad sometimes that I am pondering getting another model phone.
[Epic 4G General] xeonbuilder:
Dont feel bad. Im in the same boat. Im looking for other phones as we speak
[Epic 4G General] gophergun:
I know how you feel, but I wouldn't yet. Cyanogenmod is making great progress - progress you can actually monitor, unlike Samsung's. I wouldn't mind relying on the CM team for updates instead of Sprint/Samsung. (In fact, I daresay I prefer it, considering how much more transparent and honest they are.)
[Epic 4G General] iil:
Yes, the problem for me is not the lack of an update but the total lack of communication from Sprint. To me it is disrespectful as they know we are waiting for it.

Having said that, I may also not like what I hear if they were more transparant.
[Epic 4G General] Doppler808:
I have yet to see any company be transparent like you want them to be. I see a lot of people claiming HTC is a better company, and yet I see them do the same thing that all the other companies are doing.

devices that come to mind which I have owned.

MyTouch(Although it was updated to 2.2 recently during the whole time since last year HTC didn't give out information we are asking for the Epic).

Nexus One(still no word as to when it will see 2.3 from google, more than likely soon, but still no dates).

MyTouch Slide(still on 2.1 and still no word on updates).

Most people only think of the devices they have and what happens to them, but the grass seems greener on the other side.

I honestly think with the Nexus S the updates will come sooner. This is the same thing that happened to HTC and Motorola especially with devices that matches closely to the developer devices by these companies.
[Epic 4G General] bomix:
HAHA @ this Thread :D
[Epic 4G General] iil:
Sprint publically said soon at the beginning of December. Does anyone know what their definition of soon is? That's as transparent as I really need.
[Epic 4G General] uranidiot:
u misinterpreted samsung, they said december 2011
[Epic 4G General] tank1916:
This was from November 11th (2010) on Samsung's official twitter:

"SamsungMobileUS @avongauss Aaron, we are working on Froyo update for our US Galaxy S phones. It will be available this year."

So they have 2 days to keep their word.
[Epic 4G General] bullet2300:
Technically it is available... :D
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Well today should be a new playbook since its a Wednesday so if its going to come out this year..we would know by end of today...
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
+1 on this, though to be frank I'm quite happy with Cm6 or nebula...they run great and I have no issues (well, CM6 has its fair share of issues but that is to be expected of a pre-beta)
[Epic 4G General] gophergun:
Canonical is the first one that comes to mind. Mozilla, as well.
[Epic 4G General] mousiluck:
NOT SAYING MY SOURCES ARE RELIABLE OR THAT I EVEN HAVE A SOURCE AT ALL!!

Lol, just poking fun at impatient people, and skeptics.

2.2.1 expected to to rolled out about 4 days after christmas, spanning 1-2 weeks to roll over using OTA methods. 4g areas to be one of the first to receive it, rural areas and major 3g areas to be rolled out in mixed combinations as to not overload cell tower networks. Sprint representatives in cities receiving the ota will be notified by email on day update is started in representatives' area. Samsung will post Open source code sometime within first day or up to 2 weeks after official ota begins.

Remember I'm just poking fun. If you do not find this amusing, then I suggest you either grow up or get a life!

MouseOne
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
So, if I read this correctly...you just made this up?
[Epic 4G General] mousiluck:
Not sure, does it sound like I made it up? trying to see if I can make a lie sound unbelievably true....or was it make the truth sound unbelievably fake....
[Epic 4G General] gophergun:
Kind of an overdone joke at this point, no?
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Meh I could care less if it is true I just am tired of people making **** up for their own amusement. I'm running Nebula and it works great so whether or not it comes out today is meaningless.
[Epic 4G General] lawsofpower48:
i got my update today! 2.3.1! you guys are behind
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Haha wow that's hilarious. No one has made that joke ever before! Gosh you are so original. See, its funny because you said you got an update that no one else could have and as such its a comment on how we're all just complaining about not having an already out-of-date update. Oh jeez, you are quite clever. Care to make any Titanic jokes? How about a Weakest Link "You are the weakest rom, GOODBYE!" pun? No I got it! How about a Friends bit! That is so relevant!
[Epic 4G General] mousiluck:
It depends on what your definition of overdone is, you could technically say that the whole subject of when 2.2 froyo will be rolled out is overdone. And if you agree on that then yes it is an overdone joke.

But at least I didn't post a new topic about it. Like we all say sources can only be trusted when there is proof to back it up. And what proof would it be if the only proof is an email from corporate sprint. It isn't actual software that could be taken a pic of and posted. Also on that note I have yet to see a batch of epics come stock with 2.2...yet, the packaging still says 2.1 and the phone still says 2.1.
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Ya that whole rumor of some new ones having 2.2 was bs. There are 4 stores in my mall with working epic display units. All of them had DI18 2.1 sooo lame.
[Epic 4G General] SubnetMask:
Dumb question: wouldn't the official release of froyo for the epic (or more specifically, the source code) make noob's job of making the Cyanogen AOSP ROM easier, along with other people that mke modded/custom ROMs?

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] FoxRacR17:
Hahaha +1
[Epic 4G General] mousiluck:
It should, even though cm6 is written from ground up, it helps quite a bit to be able to compare an actual working code for the device and a modified one that way if any errors or issues pop up you ca refer back to it to see what went wrong. Not saying it'll make it easy as pie, but it is easier nonetheless, and other rom developers will be ble to modify some things such as overclocking/undervolting. And so on. I myself am more interested in the actual source being released compared to the update itself.
[Epic 4G General] uranidiot:
So wheres the new sprint play book that was to come out today.
[Epic 4G General] Daft Punk:
Lol x2 wtf!!