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[Desire HD General] clarkdevlin:
google maps works even offline if you have the tiles pre cached on your phone. though i think turn by turn navigation wont work if your not online.
[Desire HD General] clarkdevlin:
i saw a store selling otterbox case for DHD and HD7 on greenhills 3rd floor in front of brocheur computer store just wanted to tell if anyone is looking.
[Desire HD General] clarkdevlin:
APN Settings for Sun Cellular

Prepaid

APN (static): minternet

Authentication: PAP

IP address: dynamic

Postpaid

APN (static): fbband

Authentication: PAP

IP address: dynamic
[Desire HD General] xdadevelopers13:
^^^cant help myself hehe but which one is your favorite phone in your sig???
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I'm jumping ship to AR. No updates for LD today and I feel like flashing a rom. :)
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
@LD Users

Hypothetically, can you flash LD Kernel on stock 1.32?

Although I don't think it is a good idea and won't do it. Just for curiosity's sake :)

What are your thoughts about upgrading to 1.72 Stock ROM from 1.32?
[Desire HD General] junta_mpb:
Ironic, ain't it?

Cheers from my DHD.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
If you have nand then flashing the LD kernel over stock 1.32 shouldn't be a problem. Will it bork your phone and give you boot loops? Probably... But you can always advance restore your system from backup and live to flash another day. Will it satisfy your curiosity? Absolutely ;)

In my experience, if you want to test a kernel over stock rom, you should flash it via fastboot, not CWM. Its much safer and will give you less chances of BLs.

Check post #108, I've tested the attached LD recompiled kernel for stock 1.32, goes up to 1.8:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=934168&page=11

Or try Apache's Buzz OCK if you're really in the kernel-testing mode...

On the upgrade side, just be sure to follow the guide to upgrade without loosing root. That's the only problem with 1.72, it breaks root if done OTA or straight flashed via RUU. Or try the 1.72 based custom kernels...
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Happy flashing! :)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
There's a 2.0.13 update. Looks promising. Wasn't too satisfied when LD lagged on me for a whole 30 minutes.
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
@Jacob

Thanks for the quick reply. :)

Man, you've really read you way up to these forums here! haha.

Been a member here since 08 and just been lurking the whole time.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Very... I only have this on my map. These are the only areas my map can give directions/info to. Still very useful especially with the POIs... It would be nicer if they have polished up a bit more.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Yeah, I was into Python and iOS before WM6.5.X so I was spending my time elsewhere. The HD2 actually made me sign up in xda but Android made me read and post more... Its fun to share and help :D
[Desire HD General] Lopio:
im more on a lurker, been a member since 2004 when I got my xda 2 from globe.
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Google didn't restore my apps :( Hello appbrain.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Whoa... I won't be surprised if another fil posts to trump 7 years worth or lurking :D
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Use Titanium? How is the new AR build? I've since raised the LD OC to 1547 and it performs stable on Nutter V2. Will raise it even more in a few days...
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Haven't tried Titanium. I've always felt it would take up lots of space. I've never tried it though. Haha.

AR vs LD

So far I've only been using it for a few hours. Seems very similar to LD actually with regards to responsiveness and speed. Haven't encountered the lag issue I had with LD (many users are attributing it to the Youtube app but I haven't used Youtube and it was there).

So basically performance-wise it's the same.

Battery life is excellent so far. It's been unplugged for more than an hour and it's still at 100%.

LD seemed to significantly eat up the batt with wifi use.

I have yet to try it out on AR.

I've set it up as I've set up LD:

smartass 1036 max 247 min main

ondemand 247 min max screen off

auto brightness (LD is dimmer)

2g bands only

wifi off

all animations

spareparts animations fast

nexus kang lwp

Quadrant:

LD: 1600-2100 @ 1.4 ghz as well as 2.0 ghz

AR: 1600-1900 @ 1.0 ghz

2000-2200 @ 1.2 ghz

Basically when using the two, there's no difference aside from the brightness and the battery consumption. But I have yet to confirm the latter.
[Desire HD General] xdadevelopers13:
nice one there to post some reviews. want to flash my first ROM and choosing between LD, AR and CM7 on what to flash. thanks
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
CM7 is great and fast but the battery drain of 6-8%/hour even on standby should be fixed first.

LD was nice apart from the lag bug that's fixed with a reboot. LD with LD kernel 2.0.3 was perfect.

I'm trying out AR at the moment.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
We might be seeing a 2.3 with Sense port soon from the Chinese HD2 update dump...
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Can't wait! :eek:
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
For what its battery saving worth however insignificant it may be, I turned off Schduled Check for Software Updates on my phone.

We forumers don't really need that, do we ;-)

Sent from my Desire HD using my fingers to type
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Nah, won't even work anymore if you have S-Off...
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
i ddnt knw this one? is it true? i mean i dnt see how an S-Offed DHD won't check for a regular HTC software update.

please enlighten me. :(
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Yeah, that's as far as I remember reading when I Radio S-OFFed the first time. It will prevent the OTA. Will check the books to confirm :p

Update: Nope, couldn't confirm this with any of the links for S-Off (I must've been "on" something. lol)... Could be mixed up memories of rooting, S-OFFing to removing stock apps that actually breaks OTA. Though when phone is "un-branded", brand-specific OTAs theoretically won't show up.
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Also turned off Phone Finder feature under Locations since that does not even work for me, might as well turn it off to save some juice it may be sipping.

Sent from my Desire HD using my fingers to type
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Lee's new Kernel is up :D
[Desire HD General] Schiso:
how do i set my mobile network settings, im a globe subscriber. please post the settings here. thanks.
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
How come I never had to set my network settings?

When I plugged my SIM, they were just there just like any other Smartphone.

When i lose this with my Windows Mobile, I just Manually Select my Network again and the Network settings would be there.

I think someone posted the settings some pages back though :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Its probably buried way down the post... probably the first 50 pages or so? This'll be another topic to be posted on the temp site.
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
I went there and they said "Wala po sir, pang Iphone lang meron otterbox" sheez... Lucky me :( was hunting quite a while now..
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Is it an Otterbox store?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
V3 LD Kernel is out, Tim. Perhaps its time to restore your LD nand :D epic performance...!
[Desire HD General] clarkdevlin:
I only went there to buy a Hi-Sense bluetooth stereo headset for my DHD. I think the name of the store was Digital Walker. Then I saw that they carry Otterbox cases I then asked them if they have for DHD and HD7 and they said yes but they only have limited stocks for the DHD and HD7 otterbox cases and was current out of stock, but I got mine from Otterbox's website directly for $35 each and had it shipped here.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
i just sat in front of the PC today and thought it's probably time to try out some new ROMs. i opted to stay with stock ROM (Perma Rooted and the works) then since i like the overall look of the UI.

moving forward..there is this one sentence that i see everywhere in the Dev forums and it kinda concerns me somehow..i know i've read and watched this a million times but what does it imply when it tells you "Remember to check MD5 Checksum before flashing !!!"? clearly i don't understand this one and don't know what's the required thing to do.

Tim / Jacob..i think i need your help on this one..:D
[Desire HD General] xdadevelopers13:
Never tried one purchasing online and from outside the Philippines. Will it be delivered at your door? How much is your total cost? Thanks
[Desire HD General] Lopio:
You need to download MD5 checker, then run the program on your pc, then point the zip file you want to check, the compare the result, if its a match the zip file is ready to go, if not match its corrupted.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
gotcha...so i can just use any MD5 checker right?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Wow, lucky you, I had to order my Defender from Amazon and have a relative deliver it since I couldn't find the option in OB's website to deliver in the Phil... Won't even accept any of the cards I tried.

Must've cost double but worth it right?
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
+1 a reminder especially when members are complaining to devs that links don't work or new versions doesn't flash correctly etc.

Hashtab works just fine but there are others...
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
okay..so i finally get to try a new ROM. i need to back up my rooted STOCK ROM. given that i have CWM installed..how do i do it? where would the back up be saved?
[Desire HD General] Lopio:
Right, just to make sure the rom/radio you downloaded is not corrupted.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
my DSL stayed uninterrupted for like 2 months..not until now..and i'm downloading the LeeDrOiD_HD_V2.0.0.zip only for my bandwidth to fluctuate..so i had to restart since i forgot to use my DL manager..talk about timing? LOL
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Basically it checks if the zip file you're about to flash has the correct content. You wouldn't want to be flashing something incomplete. Although I don't check before flashing. Never did. lol.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
You can go to ROM manager and select backup current rom, choose a name and it'll restart. Or straight via CWM, Backup and Restore option, follow prompts...

It'll end up in your SD card under Clockworkmod program folder. My average backup size is about 1.2Gigs so I keep a recent one on the card and archive the others in my laptop...
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
It happens... :D
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
noted...much thanks! :)
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
by the way, for LeeDroid_HD_V2.0.0, do I need to flash the recommended radio 26.04.02.17_M2 or no need? if it's needed, what do I flash first coming off from a rooted Stock RUU; is it the LeeDroid_HD_V2.0.0 ROM or the radio26.04.02.17_M2?
[Desire HD General] Lopio:
Lols same here, im too lazy to check MD5, Luckily ive flash so many roms on my DHD nothing bad happens, im a flash addict hehe.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
I'd say radio first... It's also compatible with stock roms.
[Desire HD General] Lopio:
Try first your original radio, if its good no need to flash recommended radio, my son uses his stock radio and its good, I change radio though.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
okay..so having said that, i guess radio 26.04.02.17_M2 is needed?

i am also seeing that you need CWM 2.x.x.x to flash LeeDroid_HD_V2.0.0, i can't seem to find this version. what i have is the CWM 3.0..
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Yup, so the kernel will play well with the radio upon first boot :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Go to the bottom menu of ROM Manager and flash older version...
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
sorry for what it seems to be a stupid question..:p

thanks again! :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
You'd be surprised to know that same concerns come up right when members are in the middle of or started to do the flash sequence (The LD thread grew a couple of hundred pages easily within a few hours of the new kernel being released...)... Must be adrenaline rising. lol

Hope it works out!
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
True, I was lucky enough to stumble upon it. :)
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
> installed CWM 3.0.0 PRO (with license)

> downgraded to CWM 2.5.1.3 (thanks to Jacob)

> backed up my HTC Stock RUU perma rooted + the works

> flashed 26.04.02.17_M2 radio image file (as recommended for LeeDroid HD v2.0.0)

so after reboot, i turned on both WiFi and AutoSync with normal screen brightness as usual..and I was so amazed that my Current Widget logs are playing at 10mA to 17mA only..well, it might be too high for LeeDroid (i only flashed the radio but remained with stock RUU :p) but, compared to my original 1.32 stock radio of which i don't know what version that was..this is much lower consumption..

i'll stick to this combination for a couple of days..see if i'm gonna be satisfied..

thank you guys..;)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
The kernel plays a big role in hardware optimization. The role of the ROM is in short for software optimization. :)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Jacob, as much as I'd want to switch back to LD, they lost me with 2.0.4 kernel drain and the spontaneous lag. AR has yet to disappoint. :) I'll be back once LD kernel's stabilized and/or I'm bored. Haha! That's how I got to AR in the first place anyway. I'm also keeping my eye on CM7, I'll get on that once they fix the battery drain.
[Desire HD General] lampz:
If i have LD and i wantd to try ArdH kernel can i flash only his kernel? Otherwise with both Rom?
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I was wondering the same thing.. only LD kernel on AR.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Glad to hear your satisfaction with even just a new radio. I get 4-6mAh average reading on Current Widget with Nutter V2 @1574 as high as 54mAh unlike 200+ on V2. 1-4mAh while phone is asleep. I was on the same radio on stock rom for a while as well... I'm sure it won't disappoint :D

+1 good work on devs to really polish up where manufacturers leave much to work on...

Sorry to hear about the lag on LD. I'm fortunate not to get that on V2, I did on stock ROM with a modified LD kernel at 1996... probably a bad combo. The only hiccup of V3 was Adobe reader FCs which is easily fixed with uninstall via Titanium and reinstall from the market. All is well now...

Its really a matter of finding what you'll be most happy with. Glad to hear AR seems to deliver for you as LD does for me. As well as just radio for RedL :)

CM7 is tempting but I'll see what Lee does with Honeycomb. Its a stretch for now, not even sure if its even gonna be usable but some parts of it could be beneficial for the current 1.72 builds. Not ready to let go of Sense yet :p Oh and don't forget that Huashan (Chinese HD2) 2.3 rom with Sense as well... I wonder who's working on that one.

I've seen members who mixed it up with that exact combo over on the LD thread. Seems okay to do so. Just not sure which kernel version actually plays better with AR.
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
@lampz

Did you mean DHD > IPHONE 4? haha.. at your signature.

@timoti

I saw some post in the LD thread that some people are doing the set up you mentioned.

@Jacob

I take back that I don't want to try this :) haha

I'm really tempted to change my Kernel to LD 2.0.5 using Stock 1.32 ROM.

Do you think it should work?

Do I need to Radio S-Off or just S-Off? Since I wont be changing Radio anyway.

What are your thoughts guys?
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
I'll try it out in a few days. :) I'm currently at 55% after 25 hours under heavy use.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
You can try it as long as you have a nand of your current rom. You'd probably get bootloops if you flash it via CWM. Best is to extract the zimage and wifi and flash it via fastboot. You'll only need S-Off to run fastboot commands. Seeing that the kernelbuild is based on 1.72, it really might not work but it won't hurt to try :D
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
That's astounding :D it really boils down to battery life these days huh? I've yet to test V3 but I couldn't get past my habits of hooking up the phone wherever I get near a port... I'll also post the initial benchmark tests I have for V3 @1574. Not too high ones but pretty good nevertheless...
[Desire HD General] lawrence27:
Do you guys know where can i buy a car mount for our unit? I dont like the universal ones. I like the one specially made for DHD.
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
I better post at LD thread just to be sure! haha :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
LD Nutter V2 Kernel Benchmarks...

1. Smartbench

- Samsung phones are known to always have a higher gaming score because of gaming optimization.

2. Linpack

- Not sure why it gave inaccurate precision, I tried 3 times with the same result.

3. Neocore

- .3 increase, 56 is normal for Neocore and I read somewhere that its always capped to 57-56.

4. Quadrant

- Not as high as the max 2676 I've had before. This is the first run and QS tend to get better as you try more than a few times. Not too bad considering that QS doesn't really represent the overall performance of the phone and was also proven to be non-cheat proof. I'm just glad that the rom experience is not optimized for benchmarks rather the UI experience.

I just did a quick benchmark of my current settings with Nutter V2 while doing my "business"... :p

I didn't condition the settings for benchmarking as suggested in the LD threads because I wanted to know the results for my actual daily settings.

Just thought I'd share for good measure :D
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Well seeing as real day to day performance is the same (obviously quadrant scores aren't), the only thing left to measure would be battery life. :)
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
What screen should I see if I boot into Recovery Mode?

Tried Booting in Recovery Mode using ROM Manager, stuck with the HTC Phone Image with Debugging Mode Icon.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Did you hold down the - volume as you powered the device? Otherwise, pull the batttery, hold down the - volume as you turn the device on. You should see a white boot loader screen...
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Doing a nandroid Backup now. Will flash 2.0.5 on Stock ROM 1.32 after.

Wish me luck!
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Goodluck man! Let us know what happens :D
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
So far I can say my update is a SUCCESS!

Current setup is HTC ROM 1.32 with LD Kernel 2.0.5 :)

Will observe and give you guys feedback.

Scrolling through the menus/pages is really fast! I'll report back if my battery consumption has improved!
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Probably online, might cost an arm but it will do the job :D

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...ps&field-keywords=desire+hd+car+mount&x=0&y=0
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Another happy camper :D Congratulations buddy!
[Desire HD General] xdadevelopers13:
read you came from a LD rom did you re flash your radio??? are you using the recommended radio for AR??? which one 12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2 or 12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF???
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2 :)
[Desire HD General] Schiso:
Hey Jacob, u only got as high as 54mAh? i always see my current widget with 150-200+ mAh when im using it. what made your battery improve that way? the Nutter V2?
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
question..

when i made the NAND backup via CWM Recovery earlier, what was included then? does it include my Baseband (Radio), Stock HTC Kernel, Build Number, Software Number and Browser Version?

also, what are you using to flash any kernel? is it safe to use jkoljo's Kernel Update Utility?
[Desire HD General] thenocturnalnurse:
Well, 150-200 is not that bad. I usually get 180-300 just by texting and it sucks..
[Desire HD General] Schiso:
I get that much too. I just flashed Nutter V3. What's the difference? I want my battery to last longer.
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
I think when you make a nandroid Backup, you get to back up your ROM and Kernel.

I used CWM to flash my kernel, just like flashing a LD ROM.

My current setup is 1.32.707.5

12.28b.60.140eU_26.04.02.26_M Radio

and LD 2.0.5 Kernel.

Charging now to full, will observe how this build combination will go.

Might try the following setup after observing my current build:

1. 1.32 Stock ROM LD2.0.6

2. 1.32 Stock ROM LD2.0.5 LD Recommended Radio

3. 1.32 Stock ROM LD2.0.6 LD Recommended Radio
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
makes sense since Radio images are readily available out there..

i got the R2 of your Radio which is rumored to have much more battery improvement...same stock RUU and stock kernel. that's why i'm confirming if i backed up my original kernel when i did the nand.

i wanna try LD v2.0.3 custom kernel with the R2 radio of what was originally recommended by Lee while keeping my RUU to stock..
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
Keep us posted with your results. This is mix-and-match thing can help us have an optimum build for our DHDs :)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
I've noticed that 54 is average when something isn't running in the background. It still gets as high as 200+ to 400+ depending on what was happening before I see the widget again. But the major difference was it doesn't go in the hundreds when doing mundane stuff... I attribute it to the new kernel though.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
I think the radio will survive and remain new, everything else will be saved and restored... (Kernel, settings, files etc...) you'd have to downgrade radio to go back to your original radio even after restore if that's the direction you're headed.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Consider your apps and settings... Like if you're using LWP, that will definitely contribute to what Current Widget will read, if there are more Destop Visualizer based shortcuts, it definitely is different from regular shortcuts. After long sleep, you might see the reading at 1mAH especially if Android already killed background apps automatically. Get Task Identifier from the market to see what's running automatically and remove the unecessary ones or perhaps but them on the blacklist if you have Startup Auditor. Some apps will start on its own and keep running in the background automatically.
[Desire HD General] redlinux:
i think i want to try some ROMs today..i need to do full wipe like literally starting "fresh". i have read several suggestions in the CWM Recovery and go to "wipe/data factory reset > delete all user data" and some tell you to do "mounts and storage > format data".

which would be the best way to do it best? :)

EDIT:

okay looks like i get it..LOL

thanks guys!! :)
[Desire HD General] PH_750:
early start for ROM Flashing :)

A point of consideration for everyone regarding battery:

Some improvements can be noticed during the loaded state of the CPU.

Try to compare that area as well.

I noticed people watching over their Sleep state current consumption but would not take notice of the loaded state. Some performance optimizations can be measured during loaded state as well. ;-)
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Apache14 1.3 kernel is out. :) AR 2.0.14 is out. It's a good day to flash!
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Now only if these kernels could make a random hottie flash back, it'll be real epic... lol
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
It would if you helped the hottie flash a kernel. lol.
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
lol... if they'd even know what it means. Ha ha ha!
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
They're somewhere out there. ;)
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
For case hunters...

Just saw this over our 4GB baby twin's case thread...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk-dJFr9VEo

http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=51030&cat=5455

Pretty expensive but its a Speck :D
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
elow guys i got 2 spare of otterbox commuter series and 1 otterbox defender series brandnew pm me

*meetup SM SAN LAZARO tayuman
[Desire HD General] Jacob1369:
Get it guys!!!

Hey kuklux, any chance of seeing an actual pic of your Black DHD? Seems you're the only one who has one... Please let us appreciate it!
[Desire HD General] timoti.sy:
Hi guys, just restating that we have a beta forums for the PH community here. So we don't occupy just one thread. :) Of course we'd still remain here as this has been the norm. Just pointing out that we can better categorize our inquiries there.