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[Epic 4G General] herbthehammer:
Two guys were riding a donkey. The only way to make the donkey move was to tie a carrot to a stick and dangle it in front of the animal. The beast of burden saw the prize but it was always just beyond it's reach. Just a little bit further, the mule thought, and that tasty carrot will be mine! Did the jackass ever get the carrot? We'll never find out the answer to that question, will we?!

10 PRINT "Keep waiting just a little bit longer. You'll get it soon!"

20 GOTO 10

RUN
[Epic 4G General] decalex:
Im sad i just read this whole thread...

Sent from the future.
[Epic 4G General] xeonbuilder:
My man busted out the vintage BASIC language.... DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!! I havent seen that since the 80's.. lol
[Epic 4G General] PokeAsheep:
*sigh* true and disheartening
[Epic 4G General] Mikecornelius:
I must say, I have had the froyo leaked version for a week or two and I loved it. I then rooted and custom rom loaded Viper, I must tell you I will never again look at stock roms. The developer community has done an awesome job and continues to produce much more stable and impressive roms. I can never go back to stock.
[Epic 4G General] diego1985:
Cosigned, I feel the same way now, After getting my nerve up to flash to a custom rom thanks to this guy here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW-PL7-T7_c
[Epic 4G General] herbthehammer:
27 years later, I still catch myself. It's not "I will goto the store," it's "I will go to the store."

I think I will go play some Zork while I wait for Froyo.
[Epic 4G General] uranidiot:
No sprint playbook, no new rumor, yep sprint/samsung lied to us. Samsung fail. Would blame sprint more but froyo not available for galaxy s phones in the US, so I blame samsung.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Was there no new playbook at all, or have we just not heard from anyone what was in it? Or have we gotten word that there is no mention of the Epic in the playbook at all?
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
Sprint and Samsung can both just SUCK IT!

I reserved judgment until now, but this is just pathetic.
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
I assume there was a playbook but either none of those who get it cared to share or there was nothing to share

Sent from my Epic 4g running Nebula Rom
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
im looking at the droid incredible or evo
[Epic 4G General] markstibbyspot:
Don't buy another phone from sprint.
[Epic 4G General] xTmDarren:
Yeah bc all the other Galaxy S phones here in america are updated ... :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
They did this with the hero. But then we ended going from 1.5-2.1 so we were all happy in the end. I doubt we're gonna get gingerbread soon though...the n1 doesnt even have it yet...officialy atleast
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Instead, lets say don't buy samsung phones anymore!
[Epic 4G General] EvilJames:
I would be happy with an update eta...how difficult is it to say this is the date?
[Epic 4G General] altusanimus:
Yeah, I highly doubt the epic will be getting any official upgrade anytime soon.
[Epic 4G General] jtw78:
My biggest complaint is the lack of communication. Why are we relying on leaks and rumors - this isn't the freaking iPhone. How about some transparency from the "Open" Handset Alliance? All I want is a press release from Sprint or Samsung that says: "Our bad, we had an update ready but it was bricking phones so we had to pull it. We figure it'll take us a week or two to work out the bugs. Sorry."

When I worked in customer service our mantra was: under promise and over perform. How much happier would people be if Sprint said: Froyo in February and they got it out to us in January. Now even if we get it in January (big if) we're all pissed because they said it would be by the end of the year.
[Epic 4G General] blakealsobrook:
Sprint customer support

so i just got off of the phone with both samsung and sprint. and i have to say, this is an all sumsung issue.

First off, the intercept and the epic roms for froyo were delivered to sprint on the 17th and sprint pushed it to the intercept while they tweaked froyo for the epic. Sprint planned on releasing the froyo update ota from dec. 26th until dec 30th, however a last minute issue was raised by samsung delayed the release. apparently there is some kind of issue with the sd cards, similar to the other galaxy s phones in canada.

called samsung to get comments and they said that they have no information....

sprint dude "jeff" was really helpful and he put me on hold while he consulted a superior to answer the question. he said that samsung has the final go ahead, and whenever they give the word, sprint can push the update. so..... everyone should blame samsung for rfs file system, which is the likely culprit for damaging the sd cards with the update to froyo.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
You people that are complaining about samsung are so dumb cuz if you buy any other phone that already has froyo you won't even be able to enjoy it because you will be to busy returning it cuz it broke. Htc & lg are garbage phone through and through software, hardware & physically. SERIOUSLY

I've had 6 samsung phones never returned 1 or broke 1.

Viper Rom
[Epic 4G General] markstibbyspot:
We paid for an expensive phone that is supposely top of the line. We have the right to complain when our os is outdated, we want an update. a phone without flash is outdated.

I also want 4g coverage in my area while we are at it . Lol
[Epic 4G General] hydralisk:
Samsung sold this phone as a "phone with 2.1 that will SOON get an upgrade for 2.2." So many people actually believed that they would not have to wait long for 2.2 because of Samsung. They flat-out lied. They failed to make me into a loyal customer. I will never buy Samsung again.

Also, the Nexus S is a copy of the Galaxy S phones with 2.3 on it. Whoopdy ****. Totally not deserving of the Nexus name.
[Epic 4G General] raylusk:
Well then you were very lucky. It is well known that the instinct was crap, many of the moments had a serious radio flaw that samsung never fixed, and that the intercept is a bad phone. Samsung is well known for their issues with their phones. In fact the epic appears to have issues with the gps and the hardware keyboard. Just search the forums here and you will see that.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Yeah because it's totally sprint's fault...

Don't come here and post stupid post like this without any evidence.

First off, Sprint was the first carrier to launch 2.2 on a device, HTC EVO 4G. It was in fact the second device to officially receive it.

Second, Sprint has the best insurance policy in the world. Tell me who else will replace a device for free for "Normal Wear and Tear?"
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Thats why I amended his statement to say "Samsung" =D
[Epic 4G General] Esteway.619:
Well I keep reading that samsung had to pull the update cuz of the sd card issue. I've been running on the 2.2.1 leak and I have no problems what so ever I get gps lock and my sd card is fine. Phone to me runs a little faster compared to my wifes epic on 2.1 and she has less apps than me. So I don't think it really has anything to do with the file system cuz mine is just fine.
[Epic 4G General] markstibbyspot:
You dont need evidence to recommend people not to buy phones from sprint? As far as poor support well here is your evidence. :p.

Just an update would be nice...

We are all customers we have the right to complain, whine, give bad rep...no need to get butthurt over the sprint comment.

if you have good experience with sprint, by all means share it.

The way I see it, why would sprint push froyo when people are buying phones from them in exchanged of the epic...if that was the case id piss customers too to drive my sales on other phones.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
You don't seem to get it. If it's all sprints fault then why hasnt any other galaxy s phone been updated?
[Epic 4G General] markstibbyspot:
Actually I get it.

You do know my contract is with sprint right?

Therefore I hold them liable. I could care less where they get the phone. Knowing samsung manufactures the phone also makes me dislike them too.

When I bought the phone I was told by the reps it played flash:o. It didnt. Called them back and they said it was because 2.2 was not out yet and will be coming out in a week or so. 4 months later...? No update.

yeah im pissed.

Their reps didnt keep their word, I am stuck in a contract, I have the right to whine and give bad reps.

on the side note I found this website to update to dk28.

Now im just whining for the principle of the lack of update and long wait of the official.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
If the reps really told you that, you should contact the bbb. It's easy and companies that lie to customers should be held accountable. Its not ok to blatantly lie to sell a device and then hold that person to a contract based they signed in part due to the lie.
[Epic 4G General] Gersonian:
from samsungtweets

Samsungtweets Samsung USA

We want Galaxy S owners to have simple/reliable upgrade. We r running tests due to complexity/unique functionality.

Samsungtweets Samsung USA

We are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S. Galaxy S owners as soon as possible.

From just about an hour ago. Looks like they might be responding to the twitter/facebook blitz.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
They can release a galaxy s with 2.1 and 2.3, and can upgrade 2.3 to 2.3.1, but cant do anything with froyo on a gs lol why not just update us to vanilla gingerbread :(
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
They've been saying that same thing for 3 days...i posted it last year :p (ok december 31st)

Sent from my Epic 4g running Nebula Rom
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
You want an update on Froyo??? Really...well how about DJ29, DK05, DK17, and DK28...

Froyo is coming, just calm down....geez
[Epic 4G General] MojoSwag:
So is it the OTA delivery system that is causing the delays?
[Epic 4G General] D623:
Just be more patient.. I gave up on being mad at Spring/Samsung lol. I'd rather have a stable build then the leaked **** already.
[Epic 4G General] tank1916:
The Nexus S has basically the same hardware as the Epic. The only differences are physical keyboard, nfc chip, and sd storage as far as I saw in a quick spec list. I know we're still waiting for froyo but I don't see any reason why samsung wouldn't move fast to get us gingerbread after that to make up for everything that has happened in 2010. Guess it is one step at a time though, hopefully it won't be too long till froyo now.
[Epic 4G General] alaron:
No build is going to be perfect, that's the nature of things. We've seen what they have and there's not a whole lot wrong with it.
[Epic 4G General] Sh0wNuF:
Except for the fact that it is gsm vs our cdma and we have a 4g radio as well so drivers for all that are hard to port
[Epic 4G General] iil:
What's wrong with the drivers used in eclair? Is froyo/gingerbread really that muchdifferent?
[Epic 4G General] Sh0wNuF:
Honestly , I'm no dev but from what I understand is that each version requires different drivers to make the specifc phone hardware compatible with the software, that's why wedon't have cyogenmod fully working the epic yet. Now if the nexus whas a cdma wimax phone with a physical keyboard then it wouldn't be difficult but its not and it is
[Epic 4G General] iil:
That is correct. My question is how much does a specific phone hardware driver need to change between each version of the android system? Surely it would be independent of the changes to android but I can't imagine our keyboard driver needs to be completely rewritten for froyo..unless they want to fix that skip key glitch maybe.
[Epic 4G General] xeonbuilder:
No one will. You have to pay for any replacements from Sprint. No such thing as a free replacement..

$50-$75 if I recall.
[Epic 4G General] Bigjim1488:
They changed it
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Mhm, you get a refurb phone but its still free. My wife's Instinct's touchscreen had become really unresponsive on the soft keyboard screen (it was still usable just very annoying) and they looked at it for 30 seconds and got her a new one in 3 days.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Back when the hero came out, I took it bac to the store after a week or so and told the guy it wasn't a google branded one (cuzthey made a whole knew "with google" branded one that had pure vanilla android anda software fix where it wuld properly show its in EvDO) and he looked at it, turned it off, hard reset it and went and got me a brand new boxed one from the back. He even gave me the old sd card too :D I love sprint insurance.

Personally, the one I see at fault here is samsung...when the hero launched with 1.5, we waited 4 or 5 months and skipped straight to 2.1

Not to mention the evo got 2.2 a few weeks after launching.

Id say sprint has a good update record regarding android. Now look at all the other samsung phones on every carrier...like the behold which never got updates or got them a year after they were promised
[Epic 4G General] chrisj_0:
This is what I've been thinking for a while. I mean the sprint software works on 2.2 (EVO).

I also don't buy the argument that "the hardware is soooo different". It's just drivers. You have a working 2.1 driver how hard is it to port? doesn't the OSS community do this everyday? I've complied linux drivers from the same source for dozens of different kernels.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Isn't Sprint trying to shove Sprint ID into this release? Didn't do that to the Evo or the Hero.
[Epic 4G General] iil:
I believe that would be part of a future update.
[Epic 4G General] Beezer80:
Unfortunetly I think you might be correct about the Sprint addons.
[Epic 4G General] italyhot21:
god knows when they gonna release it
[Epic 4G General] ffsse:
February 30th for sure. This date is confirmed. :D
[Epic 4G General] dcowboys2184:
Lol ... Samsung messing up ..
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
Moment got it about five months after its release. See a pattern?
[Epic 4G General] bomix:
yeah like government workers..
[Epic 4G General] :
I understand everyone's frustration on this subject and not to knock anyone but why is this thread still open? December 26 has come and gone with no official release but there are so many better options out there for us to do.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I'll debunk that rumor....Sprint ID is not coming to any of the already released devices. Period. Sprint already told us that awhile ago.
[Epic 4G General] :
Is there going to be an option to get Sprint ID for our phones? If so when?
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
+1 on this. This thread should be closed already.

For all those who want FroYo so badly, just get DK28 and flash a ROM w/ EXT4.

It's most likely better than the official update anyway.

(Until we get a source code and cm7, that is)
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
I think it sounds reasonable...simply because we have seen DK28 and overall it was almost there..

If its DL11 it would mean that it lasted over the 7 day usual cycle they have for testing..so I see no reason why they won't be bale to release it unless a last minute bug comes up :/
[Epic 4G General] humdrum2009:
It will get leaked like the rest

It will be leaked in a few days most likely if this is true.

Then let the drama begin lol.:eek:
[Epic 4G General] AndrewZorn:
I was going to say, waiting until Dec 26th is giving up. Time to search this forum and Google for DL11 every day over the next week.
[Epic 4G General] SonOfChrist:
LOL i already refreshed the page about 10 times in the last sec
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Acording to my source he already started training the the techs you see in the sprint stores. He hasnt giving me a date but I was told a couple weeks ago that we would have an early christmas present and this was also said before the hole 2.2.1 controversy. I say december 26 isn't to far fetched.
[Epic 4G General] crabjoe:
Didn't ecooce also say, last week, that the 25th or 26th would be the official release of Froyo on the Epic, if all goes as planned?
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Anyone "think" the GPS issues will be resolved with the official Froyo update? I tried the Odin to dl18 trick but mine still isn't working.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
no one can sender that question unless they running it oyt working on it got sprint/samsung. Questions like this shouldn't be asked untill something has been released
[Epic 4G General] Bigjim1488:
It will be officially newer then what we have now so i want it!!! ;-)
[Epic 4G General] russwaggs:
I'm just bummed that the Intercept got it before the Epic. My wife's Samsung Intercept phone got an OTA 2.2 push automatically yesterday. :(
[Epic 4G General] ghostrid3r:
@OP; I will be taking your word on this matter as fact and if you are wrong, I will be back to flame you for being uncreditable, I will also be flaming you for the $10 wimax fee, froyo being release on other devices before ours, and why we don't have gingerbread when the other galaxy class phones have them.

jk :p
[Epic 4G General] nate13jp:
On december 26 every one will be saying feb 23...
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
This date is confirmed and has been confirmd by me for almost 2 weeks.This is the second date I have leaked so far.Rollout on 12/26/2010,but everyone will see it before 1/01/2011.
[Epic 4G General] urirx98:
Does anyone know if all of us who are on the hacked Froyo D28 will have any problems with the official update?? WIll it just fix the issues it already has and replace it with the real version, or are most of you just gonna flash back to D18 and do the official OTA?

WoW just realized i have been learking around for 3 years now and never posted. This site ROCKS!!!! Thanks for all the help
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Your going to need to flash back to DI18 if you have a DK28 rom.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
The best way is to just flash back to DI18 and let it update you all official like. Guaranteed there will be a dozen if not more threads on here right after Christmas about people who took the shortcut route and all of the problems they are having.
[Epic 4G General] urirx98:
my only worry will be my apps and stuff being im rooted right now, I do have titanium backup, but just wondering how i bring all the apps back to the phone after going back to stock
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Just wait for one if the devs to build a custom rom based on the official release. I'm sure we will see something the same day
[Epic 4G General] defdot80:
Flame on my brother, this is an information based community...if it doesn't come out ...sure enough won't be the last time I was wrong or misinformed. although I may not be able to download the update copy it a flash drive post it online or hand deliver it...I was just passing what I had seen regarding our phone. At least this made me smile. Regarding the $10 fee, ill pay it when I can keep the commission I earn. Sidenote about the fee, I have been using the buffet theory from russ mcguire to explain why unlimited data is different on a epic/evo vs any other smartphone basically saying that an all you can eat buffeft is all you can eat but there are different prices for adults children and seniors. Some here won't buy that spin but it has some legs. love xda for real and if I'm wrongv I will hide my tail and never post again.
[Epic 4G General] ghostrid3r:
It's ok if you're wrong, I wasn't being serious at all about any of the things I said. Just joking around. XD

I like Russ also, he un-officially gave us SERO holders the inside info. on SERO Premium and was true to his words/blog when Oct. 1st came around.
[Epic 4G General] bkolodny:
Why?

Why should the answer be that we should all upgrade to a version that isn't fully baked. If I want the official update and not an unofficial one, why should I be forced to stop asking for it?

I still want the OFFICIAL update and not an update that I tried and didn't work for me, so I switched back to stock and now I want the OFFICIAL update.

I'll repeat, I WANT THE OFFICIAL UPDATE, not a half baked leak.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
anyone seen any new news on froyo ive been scouring and have not seen any developments?
[Epic 4G General] II5StarII Swag:
After CES and iphone on verizon announcements there isn't any new info on 2.2 update people are off of samsungs back and most of us have stopped caring it'll be out when its ready.
[Epic 4G General] jaaka78:
Really? I thought Sprint announced that Sprint ID was coming to both the Tab and the Epic. Here's a link to an engadget article from the end of October. Have they made a subsequent announcement to the contrary?

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/10/31/samsung-epic-4g-galaxy-tab-to-get-sprint-id-service/#
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
That's pretty much how I felt after new years and no froyo. I'm just like "meh" when froyo is involved now lol
[Epic 4G General] magoo5289:
I think they both (Sprint and Samsung) sat down and had a warm glass of shut the hell up. No news for them is probably good news at this point as they keep slipping schedules.

Gotta say I'm disappointed. bought this phone a month ago, past the return date, and now I feel I'm trapped to a premiere device that is just dropping off the support list.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Here's a side note,I have heard that there is a DL19,well never labled but a build was just finished last night,I can't say what was added,but you will not see this anytime soon.Still gonna have it out the door on 12/26
[Epic 4G General] Quis89:
Exactly what promise did either Sprint or Samsung make?
[Epic 4G General] 063_XOBX:
Samsung promised to have froyo on all galaxy s devices by 2011 but that's it
[Epic 4G General] Elixis:
What is the point of them making DL19 and continuing on a build that we won't see anytime soon?

At least that tells us that they're not stopping after froyo, or there will at least be more updates after this one.
[Epic 4G General] acegolfer:
Good point.

Is DL19 (or any build) made by Sprint or Samsung? I assume they work together but who is in charge?

Here's my wild guess. Correct me, if wrong.

Sprint doesn't have a full development department. Samsung pitches the build and Sprint demands what to be added and removed.
[Epic 4G General] kalico17:
this info is false

my friend owns several sprint stores across northern NJ

was just on the phone with him. Sprint has not officially announced ANYTHING regarding gingerbread or froyo. Samsung has released it too sprint but sprint is still working the bugs out.
[Epic 4G General] kynetx:
Titanium Backup requires root.
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
Just out of sheer curiosity, and no disrespect for your position, but isn't it possible that internal testing information is not being given to retail stores? I mean, if you think about it, there's not much of a reason to announce much to the retail techs until a final version is released. You've also stated that Sprint hasn't officially announced anything. And that is correct, there's no reason to officially announce a testing schedule in case they need to delay it, like they have done already once before due to bugs. Let's see what happens on the 26th.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Im guessing they will have it the last day they can, not surprised if we get it on the 31st. I mean the said the epic 4g phone would come out b4 the end of the summer and they really meant the end of the summer by Aug 31st, talk about last day they could, If we dont even see froyo by the 31st of this month, they should give up on it and just work on gingerbread for later. LOL But the 26th seems reasonable but dont be surprised if we get it dec 31..
[Epic 4G General] lrosenman:
Keep in mind that software is never "done". If they release a DL11 and there is a DL19, dl19 may be the next fix release.
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
If it is released on the 26th I assume we all will get it at different times?
[Epic 4G General] iil:
Is Sprint still planning on adding that ID stuff to our phone and could we expect to see that included in this update?
[Epic 4G General] cary328is:
Good point! I wouldn't even be surprised if this was one of the reasons why it's taking so long. We'll just have to see on the 26th or whatever date it's supposed to come out in the following weeks. I like the Dec 31st guess.