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[Nexus One General] dubyajaysmith:
Agreed. Unless real "ground breaking " happens again, you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hand =D
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Lol ...well said!
[Nexus One General] norazi:
- it cant do proper multitouch

- it cant take good low light photos

- it cant take video with even half decent audio

thats pretty much my only issues with the n1
[Nexus One General] DigitalJedi:
Very happy with my N1. It does everything I want a phone to do right now except 4G but HSPA is pretty damned fast anyway. I'll use it for at least 6 months or so. When I get something new I'll hold onto it as a backup. I've still got my MT3G Fender and Sidekick 2008 as backups.
[Nexus One General] Clarkster:
Exactly, there really isn't anything bad about it. No reason for me to upgrade yet.
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
Crazy idea but I've actually been thinking more and more about upgrading to a 7'' tablet to completely replace my phone! :eek:

I'll wait until CES to see what the Motorola Honeycomb tablet is all about, but in case CES dissapoints me I don't think I'll have a problem with signing up for the T-mobile galaxy tablet and paying $34/mo for data and using the hacked skype app for unlimited 3g calling in order to completely replace my phone.

The only thing that would be different would be having to carry arround a 7'' tablet as opposed to a phone in my pocket but I assume with a european shoulder bag I could easily carry the tablet everywhere with me just like I would a phone ;)

***Added benefit that the T-mobile tablet can be hooked up to a portable bluetooth keyboard to, in-effect, completely replace not only your phone but your computer too :D
[Nexus One General] wang1404:
The snapdragon wins the hummingbird in many tests. Except when it comes to competing the gpu.
[Nexus One General] TheAshMan:
Despite being a massive Android fanboy, I hate to admit then when I get rid of my N1 (not yet) I'll be switching to an iPhone.

Android devices are part of an extremely fast tech race and it just makes it stupid to invest any large amount of money into a handset which will become outdated and significantly lose its value in a matter of 6 months. That's coming from a guy who's just spent over £1000 on Android phones since last November.

iPhones cost roughly the same, they're guaranteed to be the best of it's kind of at least a year. When the OS is updated they at least make an attempt to offer as much of the new features to the old handsets. As a bonus I'd also be confident that even after 2 years the phone would be worth at least 50% of what I bought it for.

Android as an OS with all it's open-source awesome-sauceness (say that fast) is the best thing since buttered bread but the phone manufacturers are letting the whole concept of it down massively.
[Nexus One General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
i'm not ready yet to leave the android boat, but i have the exact same feelings as you described currently. Android is a great OS, but the update support is weak. I'm going to wait and see what happens to the Nexus One for now. If we don't get at least all updates until Gingerbread (and some minor one after that) i will switch to the iphone too. I can live with the fact that some manufacturers like HTC are hesistant to support their devices for 2 years with updates, but GOOGLE should do this with their own real vanilla android devices.

I hope Apple will make the iPhone screen larger though, as i find it to be too small. Should be 3,7 inches at least. And hopefully they add widgets soon. Another point is that i can get the iPhone very cheap (30% off) because i'm working for a telekom company.
[Nexus One General] Jgobeil:
If you are satisfied with your N1, as most people are, why would a new model change that satisfaction. Don't play the manufacturer's planned obsolescence game ! The new phones don't do more...

I recently purchased 2 N1s, for my wife and me, and we plan to keep them until something really significant comes up. More significant than curved glass and a somewhat brighter screen.
[Nexus One General] Fulvio Minichini:
I definitely agree with you.
[Nexus One General] peliROJO:
It sounds like you're going to do exactly what has been done to so many G1 phones. Personally, I'm going to celebrate and look forward to never turning it on again, only because I have high expectations from our phones in 2011. This may be the one phone that is still worth $200+ once I replace it, but it will serve as the best spare phone I've ever had, and will sit in the drawer.
[Nexus One General] peliROJO:
This is exactly what I've been talking about. It could totally replace work computers, and the cost of maintaining them. Imgaine all the end users going to their "work" market. With a couple of button pushes they can install, reinstall, remove all their productivity apps without the need of IT support. Reimage a phone? A few keystrokes. Lost it at the airport? Remote wipe. You would have to add a dock with hardwired keyboard for security, and a few other security things, but I think it's all doable.
[Nexus One General] wondercoolguy:
my g1 was my back up phone to my N1 until my wife wanted to jump on the smart phone band wagon. My N1 will be my back to what ever is announced at CES.

*side sad note* Since my wife doesn't are about tech as much as I do I've had to watch my G1 endure hard times. She lets my 1 year old run around with it and guess what, yep he drops it and sometimes for gets what it tastes like. Sorry G1 I will love you till the end, which is probably sooner than it thinks....
[Nexus One General] zerodi:
I plan in keeping my n1 but going for a galaxy s i9000 that gpu is as good as a 3gs but with a 4inch super amoled screen, I like the n1 but playing 3d games like Nova is a nightmare with no multi touch. plus the galaxy s is cheap now. I've played with iphone4s and had a 3gs for a year but the screens are too small and ios to me even once jailbroken and themed feels too urrrrrmmmm well I just prefer android + 3d games hehe.
[Nexus One General] familiarstranger:
I am probably going to be looking at a 7" honeycomb tablet from CES this year. Data only with SIP and Googlevoice will cut down on my phone bill. I'll use my old G1 as a travel phone in case I dont feel like carrying the tablet into the wilderness or to the bar.
[Nexus One General] atamkaan:
Me and my wife are sticking with N1 as long as we pay 5.99 each for T-Zones. In a worst case scenario, we save (20-6)*12*2= $336 combined just from the data package ($20 being the cheapest Android data pan you can get from t-mobile, if you can, otherwise $30)

We absolutely love our N1s.
[Nexus One General] viper2g1:
I'm so jealous of you people who get the cheap data plans, ATT instantly knew I had a N1 and charged me 30 a month. I wish I could pay 5.99 too!
[Nexus One General] MicroMod777:
Fill me in on how to do this please?
[Nexus One General] dc211:
I can help you.

Tmobile offers some preferred prices to customers that have been with the company for typically at least 22 months. There are a few options for cheap data you're going to want to go for either T-zones ($5.99 per month) or preferred Web2go ($5.00 per month). Both offer full unlimited internet with no restrictions other then their standard 5gb soft cap. T-zones is a little better because it has more APN's you can use but other then that their the same.

T-zones and preferred web2go cannot be added to any plan. You typically need a grandfathered plan. If you have an older plan you can get T-zones on some of the new plans you can only get the preferred web2go ($5).

In order to get them now you need to speak with the retentions department (Loyalty department). The best way to get in touch with them is to call 611 and when prompted by the computer say "cancel." This computer will now send you to to retentions.

I personally DO NOT call them on my N1 because they can tell what type of phone your calling from. Call using a non-smart phone or blackberry.

Make up some kind of story about switching service. I've used "I'm thinking about switching to att" and also "my neighbor showed me his phone bill and he has it"

If they don't give it to you the first call then try again. They will often deny your first request. I personally just had them add T-zones on 2 more lines just last week.

Here is my current plan using 2 N1's and an Iphone.

1800 Family Time Minutes

Free Nights

Free Weekends

Free Mobile-to-Mobile

1 extra line (3 total)

Tzones for all lines (3 total)

Unlimited sms/mms for all lines.

My faves for all lines.

Total $110
[Nexus One General] Erickomen27:
And You Can Use T-Zones On The Nexus One?

How Does It Work? Automatically?

Or Do You Have To Fix The APN's
[Nexus One General] viper2g1:
Anything similar got us AT&T users?
[Nexus One General] dc211:
There is nothing to fix. The all apns work with tzones. It's no different they any other data plan accept certain phones are blocked from using it. Non tmobile branded phones aren't blocked from using the cheap plans.
[Nexus One General] MicroMod777:
Why do I have to tell them I want to cancel? Why not just use an old T-Mobile phone and call them up then and say you switched phones and want to change to T-Zones?

Will T-Mobile say, sorry you can't do that, your stuck paying $30 data plan?
[Galaxy Tab General] cervantes008:
I bought my Tab from craigslist, brand new, never opened. I didn't want T-Mobile service because I can just tether my 3G through my EVO. Can anyone tell me if I need T-Mobile in order to use GPS? Every time I turn on my GPS and Google Navigation, it's always saying "Searching for GPS."
[Galaxy Tab General] CyberGhos:
No, you don't need T-Mobile service to use GPS. It takes long time to lock to satellites if you don't have adequate level of GPS signal (cloud, inside building...)
[Galaxy Tab General] Jasonator:
This happened to me....

Instead of going into the Blue arrow, I started IN Google Maps, got directions for somewhere and then through the menu selected Navigate. It was weird, I almost returned my tab, no help from CSR. This seemed to "jumpstart" the process and now it works everytime.
[Galaxy Tab General] bobgaby:
no working

will mine is not working it keeps on checking navigation availability display and iam out side and not near any towers and the sky is clear :confused:
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
Correct me if I am wrong but the Tab does not have full sat GPS only A-GPS which triangulates using communication towers. Not only is this less accurate but if your out of phone signal range then your GPS does not work.

This is why I can't understand why there are car docks for the Tab and no mention of the restrictions. I for one spend time in National Parks and remote areas so the Tab as a GPS device is next to useless to me.
[Galaxy Tab General] mjduke:
Okay,

And no, I don't have a SIM in my device.
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
Like I said I hope I am wrong but you don't need a sim to get a signal.

I have seen GPS sat info as well but presumed it was being simulated via net.

When I first researched the tab I found many sites claiming the tab had no dedicated GPS chip but instead used 3g chips agps capabilities.

Unfortunately it seems there is no system info or sensor info apparently that will give you this info. At least not one I have found.
[Galaxy Tab General] mmathai77:
The Samsung Galaxy Tab has a Broadcom BCM4751 standalone GPS receiver which has A-GPS (assisted GPS) capability so when a 3G connection is available it will download GPS assistance data over the high-speed cellular network decreasing the time for GPS location determination. The Broadcom BCM4751 is a very small single chip GPS receiver with a massively parallel, hardware correlator architecture to speed signal searches and very low average power consumption to suit mobile devices. It includes software optimized for cellular integration and personal navigation performance and includes sophisticated algorithms to mitigate multi-path errors.

It does have aGPS, but its to BOOST the performance of using the receiver chip alone. Helps keep it from dropping out easily.
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
Thanks very much for that.

I know a-gps in many devices work along aside a dedicated chip using tower triangulation to speed up real GPS acquisition but there also many devices that claim to be GPS with no dedicated chip and are a-gps only.

It seems at the time of my research the pre-release/preview versions of the tab did not have a dedicated GPS chip. Some previews/reviews were based on this version. Apparently after a few user discussions at a later date Samsung decided to add the Broadcom chip for the official release version. Problem is these initial reviews still exist.

Anyway that is great news to me :)

Hope the op managed to sort his issue out.
[Galaxy Tab General] bobgaby:
Any help over here I still could not use the navigation system in my tab, the Google navigation gets stuck on searching for satellite, is there any tweek that I have to do

I'll highly appreciate any suggestion

regards

bobgaby
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
Have you tried any GPS Apps from the market? It may not be getting a fix but is it seeing any satellites at all?

"GPS test" is free and will show you sat info.
[Galaxy Tab General] mmathai77:
What Tab do you have Sprint? DId you buy it used? Maybe the person previously screwed up the firmware and used the *ALMOST STOCK Rom from these forums to recover most of the stock firmware. This screws with the modem.bin file and renders the GPS bricked.

Nothing you can do about it now but wait till someone figures out how to extract the modem.bin file properly, or a big update gets released.
[Galaxy Tab General] bobgaby:
Hi, I bought my Tab new from the open market not from any carier but I do have a data plan though from Etisalat a local carier over here in Dubai, could it be the carier is blocking the service, but then that does not make any since because I also not getting the sats on the wifi (i do have powerful wifi connection I could stand out side of my house and still have connection to my wifi)

thanks siejones for the tip i downloaded GPS test from the market and this is the results

but still cant use Google navigation, i could try using other navigation but in UAE i am not sure which works and which not
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
So it's not hardware or firmware and you can get a fix so it must be google nav. it's self.

I can only think of the simple suggestion that you try uninstalling google maps using the app manager. Then try downloading and installing it from the market place.
[Galaxy Tab General] bobgaby:
Google navigation

hi guys

just a question, is there a deference between google maps and google navigation?

i am asking because i got two deferent widgets on my tab and thats how it was since the beginning i searched for google navigation in the market but could not find it but i got the latest google maps ver 5.0.0

Regards

Bobgaby
[Galaxy Tab General] schmolch:
The gps of the tab does suck.

I use it daily for running and cycling.

I go outside, remove the tab from the leathercase, start trackerbooster, hold it in the air, and still have to wait several minutes for a gps-lock.

In the car its almost impossible to use gps without stopping and going outside first.

Thats because it sucks.
[Galaxy Tab General] murphycr:
I use the GPS for various things including turn-by-turn. Sometimes it refuses to get a proper lock though. Usually in that case, powercycling the GPS chip results in a lock within about 15-30 seconds.
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
I think they are two seperate programs as such with nav using api's from google maps but they both are installed under Google Maps app. Both are installed via the google maps market app.

Saying that....does google maps get a fix?
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
All my phone/PDA devices with GPS act this way including the GPS on my Touch HD2 and the older Touch HD.

I would only expect GPS dedicated devices that have better hardware or a GPS device that allows an antenna to be connected to perform much better.
[Galaxy Tab General] knightnz:
My Nexus One will get a GPS lock in a matter of seconds, if I hold my SGT right beside it, it can take close to a full minute before it gets a lock.

Even if they can both "see" the same number of satellites (via GPS Test), the SGT generally won't get a lock until it can see at least 7 of them, whereas the N1 seems happy with 4 or 5.

The GPS on the SGT is virtually useless, it's too slow to lock and too innaccurate when it does, which is a real pity as the Navigon GPS app that it comes with is much nicer than the Google Navigation app as the maps are stored locally and the directions are more precise.

Is this a hardware issue or a software issue? Surely the hardware in the N1 isn't any better?
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
You can specify in some application wether it will only use GPS hardware or will try to aquire a a-gps fix first. The A-Gps setting will aquire a fix much faster and help the real gps to aquire faster. Maybe this option is chosen on the Nexus but not on the g-tab.

Also remember the longer you leave the device with gps switched off the longer the next aquisiton will take. When had the Nexus last aquired and when has the tab in your test?

Saying that I do not experiance such a slow lock on my tab and I was pleasently suprised just how quickly it did aquire and it's accuracy . Then again I haven't used it in anger as I use the HD2 as my main GPS.
[Galaxy Tab General] roy8846:
Tested my Tab's GPS with Sygic Aura and no Sim Card In and I get a lock on at least 4 satellites indoors within seconds! Very happy and cant wait until my car holder arrives :)
[Galaxy Tab General] knightnz:
I've never found any option in the SGT to enable A-GPS, it's not even possible to specify "supl" as the APN type as can be done with the N1.

Both devices had locks, GPS turned off and then back on again after a few seconds, the N1 got an almost instant lock and the SGT still took a long time. If there's an option somewhere to force A-GPS to be enabled if it's not by default (which would seem silly), then I'd like to know where it is.
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
It's not usually an option to enable a-gps rather one to disable it forcing the app use gps chip only. There used to be an option in google maps but it seems to have gone in the later versions.

There are options in My location settings. "Use wireless networks" will be a-gps and "Use GPS satellites" with be the gps chip.
[Galaxy Tab General] knightnz:
"Use wireless networks" just cross-references currently visible WiFi networks with known GPS coordinates. If I had a GPS fix while devices with specific MAC addresses were visible, and those same devices are visible, that suggests I'm at the same location.
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
And is that not a way of aquiring a faster aquistion?

"Use wireless networks" description: Location determined by WiFi and/or mobile networks.

It does both. Wifi if it's available because it's more accurate and then cell towers if not.

No I don't think it completely disables A-GPS as A-GPS has a few more little tricks up it's sleve to help satallite aquistion but these options are also used along side it to speed up aquistion which is what we are trying to eliminate.

So turning this option off is another test to see if one device is doing something different to speed up aquistion different to the other. Which is what we are trying to determine is it not?

Just trying to help.
[Galaxy Tab General] knightnz:
I leave the option on regardless and it doesn't seem to help, although it seems to be just as slow with it turned off. Admittedly, cell reception in the areas I try to use it tends to be fairly poor so it's possible unable to use cell triangulation to help its positioning anyway. I might go for a trip to somewhere with some really good reception from a few different cell sites and see if it makes any difference.

Even if I disable agps on the N1 (by removing the supl entry in the primary APN) then it doesn't seem to make much difference to things on that either.
[Galaxy Tab General] siejones:
Thinking about it I notice when I get a quick gps location in the "Maverick" app it is usually off by upto 100 or so meters which I presume is an a-gps initial lock. When satallite gps is eventually locked my position becomes more accuarate down to around 5 meters or so.

Just now using Maverick on my HD2 it initially marked my position on the street in front of my house. After a few mins sat GPS lock was aquired. Maverick flipped up message "Location found" and the position marker jumped to inside the house.

I wonder if you turn off GPS on both your tab and nexus for 24 hours. Then turn on GPS on both and launch Google maps or maverick or something similar. Have a look and see how accurate the Nexus lock is. Watch and wait to see it it moves. Watch for the same behavior on the tab.

You get the idea.
[Galaxy Tab General] LargePrime:
there used to be an app on wm phones to keep the gps on in the background all the time. this lead to instant locks by gps using applications.

Something simular for android exist?
[Galaxy Tab General] Geletis:
I've recently started having a lot of trouble keeping a GPS lock. This typically happens when I'm driving for a few minutes. Then, when stopped at a light, I check the device and it has lost all satellites. The only thing that seems to fix the situation is a complete reboot.

I've tried turning the GPS on and off (and of and on), turning airplane mode on and off, running 3rd party GPS applications, repeatedly running, closing and running Maps. The only thing that seems to help the situation is a complete reboot. When this happens, the GPS icon disappears from the top bar, even when GPS is turned on. (there's no GPS searching animation, there's no GPS icon of any sort).

I have a Sprint Tab with the stock firmware
[Galaxy Tab General] joedoe:
Search Market for Track Booster
[Galaxy Tab General] ResonanceZero:
I found nothing under the name "Track Booster". I also tried "GPS Booster". Recheck the name?
[Galaxy Tab General] joedoe:
Sorry, it supposed to be "Tracker Booster"
[Nexus S General] nxt:
Anybody buy SquareTrade warranty? $99 for Nexus S, they have a special menu selection for the Nexus S. $50 deductible for accidental damage, no deductible for hardware/software failures like batteries. You can get it up to 30 days from date of purchase, and prorated refund if u don't want it. Covers for 2 years.

I've never bought any warranties for anything before, but might on the Nexus S. Much cheaper than Best Buy's Geek Squad Protection Plan at over $200.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] n1kki6:
I did, and I have had a claim through them before with no problems. You do however have to send your phone in and turn around time is about three days so you would want a backup of sorts.
[Nexus S General] BruceCLin:
Also got it for NS for the reason of not wanting to use a case. No problem claiming a point and shoot before.
[Nexus S General] rsohne:
I warranty all my phones and settop boxes with them. I never had to use one but you can cancel at anytime and get unused warranty transfered back to your credit card. You can even transfer the warranty to another person if you sell the phone. It was a great selling point when getting rid of a 3gs.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] koitsu1010:
I rooted my buddy's moto Droid two weeks ago and it worked fine, now its taken a dump I used z4root to do it and now i can't unroot or anything. I have no access to root shell or any other root apps. I'm trying to fix it for him but I'm at a loss when i needed to unroot my evo i just ran the 2.1ruu and reflashed but i can't find anything like that for Droid found lots of therds on how to do it but no softwear can someone help me

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[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] huuv888:
Try using superoneclick, should be around here somewhere...get permissions back and load up clockwork and backup...wipe cache and install cyanogen or whatever your flavor.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lelalouf:
New PRL Update 60674 :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] m03sizlak:
Has anyone analyzed this PRL to determine the changes?