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[HD2 Android SD Development] Agoattamer:
Gave Desire Z 4.1 a go for 24 hours. I believe 3.5 was better. Here are some issues I detected using 4.1. Mobile data fix applied.

1. When booting will lock on black screen with green logo if charger plugged in.

2. Takes 10-15 minutes after it appears to be finished booting before it is useable.

3. Extremely laggy

4. Hard button lights will stay on as long as the screen is lit.

5. Home screen no longer rotates.

6. Data still drops when going to the market sometimes.

7. Locked up a few times doing different things and had to hit the red reset button.

8. Holding in call end brings up a reduced menu

Going to give this build 1 more day before I go back to 3.5
[HD2 Android SD Development] sandymac:
Ver4.1 Feedback

I have been running version 4.1 for a day and herewith my observations:

1. Very slow to boot (regardless of how many previous times).

2. Hardware buttons stay illuminated whilst screen display on, needlessly increasing battery consumption.

3. Initial "No data" problem was solved after setting airplane mode then reverting. Did not need to use the "data fix". Ooops just tested again and "No data" problem experienced again (airplane off then on solved). Don't understand why this wasn't fixed as part of the update.

4. Data up/download arrows don't work (retrograde step).

5. SPB TV doesn't find server.

6. Power consumption on standby (with wifi off) is between 4-7 mA. Oly way to reduce power consumption is to always switch off wifi before sleep otherwise current too high and battery drains very quickly (may be obvious to some but on viewing comments on this thread, I suspect people don't realise this is causing them power drain problems).

7. Very laggy at times, which can become annoying.

In conclusion, I can't really see any improvements from version 3.4 except, perhaps, battery life but that is marginal. Given that this should be a major upgrade (moving to 4.x from 3.x), I must say I am very disappointed. I will continue to test for another 24 hours but suspect that I will abandon this version. :(

Forgot to mention that video still has the lip sync problem.
[HD2 Android SD Development] dandiest:
the feedback from sd and nand threads are so different.

so I suspect the problem from sd are sdcard,because the major different is the system part, in nand, system is loaded from nand partition, while sd or magldr is from sdcard, and also in new builds, I disabled the dosfsck which is to check the fat32 partition, because my sdcard always has problem to pass this check.

so make sure you checked your sdcard using windows disk check or format it before install, it is critical!!

after above step, you can just delete the system.ext2 under Desire_DL and let system regenerate it for you.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sandymac:
I would agree with you Dandiest for some issues but my SD card is running another android version much more smoothly, with no delay or locks so it isn't the card. I suspect that the video would be compromised by the SD card, given the amount of writing but not sure if this is buffered (if so then it shouldn't be a problem either).

Can I ask that when you release new builds, you specificy exactly what bug fixes and/or enhancements are included as it can be frustrating trying a new build only to find that the previous was better. Perhaps you should stick to a known good (battery wise) kernel as well as this will help us test on a like for like basis rather than wondering if it is the kernel or not causing problems. Notwithstanding this, I really appreciate the hard work you put into this. ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] dandiest:
understand.

as i stated before, the v4.0 series is based on newest 1.85 HTC desirez.

I still don't quite understand why cause the system lag, while some feel it's much faster, normally, the system laggy is caused by it continually call & wait for some device, so you may send in the logcat for more information.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sandymac:
I'll certainly monitor it and let you know but from what I can see in both this thread and the new 4.1 thread in NAND, quite a few people are suffering from this. Here's hoping everything settles down soon.

By the way, any idea why SPB TV can't connect to the server? This is something I've never seen before and works perfectly with my other Android version.
[HD2 Android SD Development] danct2005:
Quadrant score 2500. WiFi works,data works . It feels a little laggy but with every restart it get better and better.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Maxistar:
Dear buddies,

i've got a big problem with my phone: Robotic sound! media files are played well understandable, but calling is impossible because of this high robotic screaming sound!

How to solve this?

Best regards,

Maxistar
[HD2 Android SD Development] mcdoc:
Have problem with data arrows (no color at all) and network indicator is white. This is for 4.1 version.

Version 3.5 works fine.
[HD2 Android SD Development] shah_vm:
here is my feedback for 4.1

my config: win 6.5 running android from sd card using ext4 format.

1. little bit laggy when compared with v3.4/5

2. data is working i had to on/off airplane mode

3. while installing apps from the market phone just get freeze until installation is completed.

4. i get force close message everytime i start android from sd card. on selecting wait message disappear and everything works as normal.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kdelisle:
There seems to be more than one zImage. When you apply the data fix, do you need to copy over a new zImage? If so, which one? I noticed on the update, that that zimage file was dated earlier than the one which came in the Desire_DL folder... Is there ONE zImage which should be used? (sorry for the inexperience!).
[HD2 Android SD Development] JBT1:
v4.1 feedback

first congratulation to the huge work. I using the SD card version.

I was using v3.4 during last 15 days and was very happy with it. No problem seen. Do trythe 3.5 but was facing issues with wifi so I jump directly to 4.1.

As many others sufering of lag running it. Lag is when using hardware button, launching application, however, once application running, not suffering anymore of lag, except when listening MP3 through bluetooth headset.

Keep going on, looking forward for your next releases
[HD2 Android SD Development] paolo.dc:
.

Dandiest

I know you are fond of your latest work (and rightly so) and consider version 2.0 updated since based on old rom but I have to tell you that by simply lowering the backlight to a reasonable level since in auto mode I had to use sunglasses I have passed the 48 hours always on (standby with only phone, no wifi no bt) with many long calls and agenda updating and I still have about a third of the battery left.

Never been able to do that even with the simplest of phones.

At this point I really don't see any reason to move to NAND.

Cheers, Paolo

PS: where are the 1.2s and 1.2t version ?
[HD2 Android SD Development] mikemol:
Mine doesn't work either but I go to the settings - wireless - remove the chechmark from the "mobile network", wait for it to change the status to disconnected and then put the checkmark back on and wait for it to connect - after that the data connection works. Every time I loose data connection I have to do this trick. Try it. Mobile data fix didn't change anything for me. If you find a permanent solution, let me know.
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Dandy after 1 day using 4.1 version I can now give my feedback. My own opinion is that 4.1 is not yet fully optimised and will require more tweaking to make it better. Unfortunately my phone had total freeze twice and had to reboot. Plus evry time you reboot its like the device is getting the rom for the first time. The first 10 minutes after reboot you cant use the phone.

Infact at some point I thought that my sd card has a problem. So I booted the secondary rom I have in the same sd card and all is well. I had also changed the kernel so that I could get better data connection and with working arrows. The battery drain is crazy at over 100mA in standby.

So bottom line: I am going back to 3.4 fro now.:D
[HD2 Android SD Development] kdelisle:
For V2.0, I was able to get a data connection by using the data fix WITH the new zImage (the package was posted previously, with both the data zip file AND the zImage). I did have to use the "airplane mode" trick, but at least i can get data without wifi. I would like to see a permanent fix, too (for old, as well as new versions). Perplexing is that the data connection says "connected" but doesn't work (before the airplane mode trick). Arrows do not animate during data connection.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mamdouhn:
waiting waiting waiting waiting For ARA 1.2

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[HD2 Android SD Development] couldrick:
Updated from desireHD to Desire z 4.1 using the same data.img. Very impressed so far.... One problem....

When charging the red led is not displayed....this was also the same on the HD version. Is there a fix for this or do I need to fresh install?
[HD2 Android SD Development] couldrick:
Also.... The hardware keys remain lit when the device is used...Is this normal?
[HD2 Android SD Development] MrDC:
Installed 4.1, SD load via MAGLDR - 3.4 is faster for me. Plus some strange stuff on first load like white screen with "HTC quietly brilliant" for several times before configuration starts. First config is really slow, had 3.4 - much faster.
[HD2 Android SD Development] dandiest:
eventually solved the DesireARA v1.2 problem, will upload soon.

think all the v4.1 problems are due to the init, after freak help me work out the new init v4.0, will upload all the series again.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sandymac:
Great news, Dandiest. Can you ensure that the data fix and data arrows are included. Would also be interested to know why SPB TV doesn't connect (but that is the least of my worries!). ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] dandiest:
for sd, you always have to apply that data fix, but you may put it before the 1st installation.

color data arrow is not included in all the new version i think.

the ARA version can not apply any UI mod, anything will lead to boot loop, I think all the existing UI mod are only for Desire HD or Z, but can not be applied to this ARA version.
[HD2 Android SD Development] sandymac:
Sorry but I was referring to the v4.1 not ARA. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] fatballj:
Great!:D Keep up to improve it. I will use SD to load your build. Could you advice is it better to create 3 partitons in SD card in order to use the build (ie. Fat 32, ext 4 for App2ext and ext4 for swap)? Or create first 2 partions are enough? If it is better to have 3 partitions, could you (or other users) share what is the best size for swap partition? (256MB or 512MB?)

Thanks..
[HD2 Android SD Development] sandymac:
I personally don't use any partitions. Just ensure you have a 1Gb data file and all should be fine. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] shah_vm:
update:

after re-installing 4.1 i see it is less laggy than before. i can say almost close to v3.5. however issue as mentioned in point # 5 still exists. another thing i noticed is the fonts is tad bigger than v3.5 is it possible to reduce the font size.

difference in first and second install is format_ext4 parameter used in config.txt in first install i used format_ext4=9 whereas in second install i used format_ext4=1.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mcdoc:
Works fine ver 4.1 but its graphic improvement would be great, like in Core Droid.
[HD2 Android SD Development] alaindev:
feedback for 4.1 SD

I can only confirm that this release has many problems, like others have already reported.

1. I first tried this build by using ext partitions, by using the same procedure as done previously with vers 3.3 final for SD. The first boot was very long as expected (reformats ext4 partition), but eventually succeeded. The system was awfully slow, as to be almost unusable.

But the real problem was when I tried to reboot. Every time, it stayed blocked at the HTC screen. Several tries, but was never able to complete the boot.

By curiousity, I went back to WM to check the init.log, and there was no error inside, it just said "let's goooo!!!" at the last line. And the ext4 formatting was reported to be OK as well.

2. My second try was to use this build just plain, with the given config.txt, thus using data.img and not the ext4 partition. That time I was able to boot, and then reboot correctly all subsequent tries.

However, as others reported, this SD build is awfully laggy. And while the responsiveness improved after some use, it starts again very slow and laggy every time it comes out of standby.

I also noticed that the connection bars and the arrows always stayed gray, which is confusing.

As for the battery drain, it was pretty good : 3-5 mA. But then, I didn't see the "huge improvement", cause my previous DL Desire 3.3 for SD showed about the same values.

All in all, there is something wrong with this build, and I cannot keep it for daily use. But I'm sure, Dandiest, that you will solve this very soon.
[HD2 Android SD Development] akawache:
I have been on 4.1 for about three days now and I experienced the same issues that were reported but I have one additional problem, when I launch internet I get the following error :

"The application Internet (process com.android.browser) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again"

I thought that was specific to the internet first but then I had the same problem with cardstar application and K9 off-course substituting the process name with the application that caused the error.

The difference though is these applications will fail intermittently but the internet will always fail. I did some research on this issue and tried the possible fixes that I found and nothing worked. Please help

Also, if I want to try the new 4.1 release do I have to start all over or just replace certain files and load?
[HD2 Android SD Development] xaccers:
I reverted to 3.4 as 4.1 was painfully slow.

It had some great features though, I love the improvement to the notification bar so when it's slid down you can control wifi/data/gps/screen etc.

Once the speed is sorted I'll definitely go for it again (just wish it had the working red droideye during boot though)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Agoattamer:
@dandiest

Can I use the 3.4 initrd with the 4.1 build or would it be better to just go back to 3.4/3.5 build completely? Some apps won't run. The phone freezes at times doing various tasks requiring red button reset. And the lag is just killing me. Don't want to give up hope yet, just want something a little more dependable for a daily use. But I want to hang around till you get the bugs worked out of that 4.0 initrd.
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Thank you Dandy we are waiting for 4.2 :D As many 4.1 users have stated there is a major problem with it. I for one reverted to 3.4 but I am facing a strange problem. One of the reasons why 4.1 did not work for me is because battery drain was in the highs of 100mA in standby. Strangely even after reverting to 3.4 battery drain is still very high which was not the case before. I wonder what the problem could be???

Or maybe it has something to do with the state of winmo? I just noticed that after using bluetooth in winmo I did not switch off before booting 3.4. Does the state of bluetooth and other wireless radios winmo side impact the battery use and other behaviour upon booting android? :rolleyes: Strange
[HD2 Android SD Development] alaindev:
As for myself,I am pretty sure that the state where you leave WinMo has a crucial impact on the battery drain. That why you have so much reports of people which randomly have high or low drain after a reboot, on various different builds (Darkstone, MDJ, Dandiest, etc.).

Thus, I have adopted a very simple and strict strategy : before booting Android I always put WinMo in Airplane mode, with Wifi and Bluetooth switched off. And I use EBL to boot as quickly as possible in Android after restarting my phone.

And so far, this has never failed once, I always have a very low battery drain (about 3 to 5 mA average in standby, on either Desire DL 3.3 or 4.1 build).

Hope this helps.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mav78g:
4.1 working well for me using wm 6.5 with excellor boot it loader of sd 3 partitions very fast after the initial boot where the market downloads all my apps automatically and ties the phone up for a while whilst it downloads and install them guess this is cos my google account is configure for auto backup. I have the little bugs with notification led staying on after charging and hard buttons being lit oh and I had to apply the mobile data fix initially. One thing I have found with all android builds occasionally my window mobile rom gets messed up stopping android booting doing a hard reset on wm6.5 and reinstalling the boot manager sorts this without having to reinstall android not sure why this happens but has happened for every type of android build not often tho.. But might account for other peoples issues so worth doing wm6.5 hard reset if you are having problems.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mav78g:
Just to add to my last post this is by far the fastest build I have used
[HD2 Android SD Development] JBT1:
I face same consumption problem, with 3.4. Cause of the problem was Bluetooth active in winmo before starting android. Once identified and corrected, consumption fall down to less than 5mA in Android.
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Yes I can confirm that. Went back to winmo and switched off bluetooth and now batt drain between 5 and 11mA on standby. And thats with sync and gtalk on ...... :D but bluetooth android off too. Its interesting how some things play out with this marriage of winmo and android. :cool:
[HD2 Android SD Development] dandiest:
don't believe the 1.85 is slower, :) wait me optimize it again

and the new init will be worked out by freak soon, let's expect a big upgrade. :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] sandymac:
Actually what is common is the radio. Winmo is overwritten when Android boots. ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Blacklight-IT:
I'm having some problems with boot from SD Card.

I extracted the files to the root of the sd card, 9 files: 8 files from the Desire_DL folder and the 512MData (data.img) to the sd card.

I went to the File Explorer on WinMo, hit CLRCAD and than haret.

Haret loads but freezes on the line "jumping to kernel (costum)"

my config file:

boot_mode=1

ppp_mode=0

data_img=1

gps_zone=us

Could you please help me out?

Original ROM 1.66.407

Radio 2.06.51.07
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Still does not explain high battery usage is higher with bluetooth on winmo. what exactly is happening? I mean scientifically. :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android SD Development] akawache:
I am having high battery drain, and slow response and freezing whne it is trying to do more than one thing at a time such as downloading and making a phone call or browsing.

I will revert back to 3.5 I did not experiense those issues with it. I am still having the problem with the internet crashing though, could someone please help me with that. Refer to my post on 392.
[HD2 Android SD Development] dimdimdim:
Kernel GL_Core v6

did somebody try this kernel Kernel GL_Core v6 with SD version?
[HD2 Android SD Development] sandymac:
Unscientifically, it is probably the fact that Android is out of sync with bluetooth (on in winmo and off in Android). Unfortunately, I don't know enough about bluetooth drivers to investigate but certainly makes sense to switch everything off in winmo before booting Android. That way, you know the radio status ;)

Notwithstanding the above, I found that 4.1 was far from perfect in other respects so waiting for 4.2 now.:rolleyes:
[HD2 Android SD Development] Blacklight-IT:
Hi there

Has anyone got any idea why Haret loads but freezes on the line "jumping to kernel (costum)" starting android from SD Card?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Bighardy:
Did you copy the files to the root of the sdcard ?

You have to copy the files in a folder Desire_DL.

And this folder must be in the root of the sdcard.

The data.img must also be in the folder Desire_DL.

Hardy
[HD2 Android SD Development] alaindev:
Have a look at the version of your Radio.

If you're really at 2.06.51.07, I seriously suggest you upgrade first.

I don't remember the minimum version for Android, but you should be able to easily find this information.

But more tricky is that, if I remember (once again), the radio with .51 are not compatible with most Android builds. You should get a .50 series, preferably the 2.15.50.14. But then, I have a european HD2 and I'm not sure if this applies to yours.
[HD2 Android SD Development] nandowom:
Merci Alain ! thanks man ! autres astuces / another tips and trick's thread http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10380880&postcount=404 ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] paolo.dc:
Blacklight-IT

I had the same problem; your radio is outdated and prevents you from loading Android.

You'll find the explanation on how to upgrade the radio in the general section of the Android forum section.

You will need HardSPL to install the new radio. If I remember correctly you need at least version 2.10 but a version with a "50" not "51" in it.

Probably it is better to get the latest 2.15.50.14 which works just fine but you need to check compatibility with your version of HD2.

I left the OS at 1.72 since it is not needed to load Android therefore there is no need to change it.

Hope it helps.

A couple of links for you:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=609477 HARDSPL

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=611787 RADIOS
[HD2 Android SD Development] dandiest:
update:

freak has solved the last issue in the new init v4.0, I will upgrade the whole series today, the 1st upload will be DesireZ v4.2, and ARB v1.3 , DesireHD 1.3. :)

in the new init, for normal use, no need to set the config.txt anymore

1. system can auto detect the tmous and eu modal, and enable the data.img for EU automatically if doesn't have 2nd partition.

2. system can auto detect the SD/MAGLDR/NAND, and set the config accordingly.

3. if set the format_ext4=9, system will auto-partition your sdcard to 2nd ext4 partition and 3rd ext4 partition.

4. previous plugin(backup/restore, rescue data/reset system) have been migrated into the init.

5. and more
[HD2 Android SD Development] jaguaralani:
WoW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_hanks:
The first time I used this Android (DL DesireHD v2.0) I was not able to make the wifi work. So I tried some other builds. Unfortunately, the camera of the other builds is not that attractive so I switch back to this build (DL DesireHD v2.0) but before running it again on my HD2 I upgraded my radio from 2.10.xx to 2.14.xx and the HSPL to 2.08. Actually I don't have any Idea what's HSPL for. Then after doing this, I run DL DesireHD v2.0. And amazingly, wifi works now. YEHEYYYY!!!!! Thanks. Loving it so much. Only one issue, the freezes from time to time. A lot of lags are happening and it drains the battery so fast. But all in all, this is one of the best build there is...
[HD2 Android SD Development] PlayStation:
Whaahhahaowwww. That sounds very very nice. Man Project Hd2 Android is getting very close to perfection. we are very grateful for all the work you and Freak are doing for the community. Any ETA boss?
[HD2 Android SD Development] fatballj:
Wow we love you dandiest and freak! Thanks for both of your effort! When the build was ready. Please explain further on point 3. How would you determine the size of 2nd and 3rd partition on my SD card? What's the prequisite for using this option? (Pre format at Fat 32 or need any other requirement?)

Thanks both of you.:D Can't wait to try the new build.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Blacklight-IT:
Thanks at all for your help. I'm currently busy @ work, so I'll try flashing a new radio tomorrow.

Doesn't the radio update automatically when I update the ROM?

Thank god it's friday ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] colossus_r:
Thanks a lot dandiest

If all those are fixed and build in then this is a ...

major upgrade

colossus
[HD2 Android SD Development] dragmark:
f5, f5, f5... :d