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[Droid Incredible Android Development] the337:
Hi Steve,

It's good to hear that you're doing well again. I'm not very active on the forums. I mainly just read and download and test roms. However, Magnolia has been one of my favorite roms since it started. I can't wait for 1.4 to come out.

If possible though I just have a couple quick requests for future updates. I like how on a couple other roms that in the notification bar it will tell you whether you're on 3g or the 1xxt or whatever because sometimes it switches a lot around where I live and it's just nice to know.

The second request would be a way to instead of seeing signal bars to be able to see the signal strength number such as "-80" or something like that.

Just a couple of suggestions. I hope you don't mine. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] BSquaredB2:
First, Steve-O good to hear that you're on the mend!

Second, I'm having some random, non-fatal issues with my phone using Magnolia 1.3.1. Bare with me as I have no way of recreating these problems.

Market updates for my apps seem to be not working; although I have auto-update enabled for all of my apps. It seems there is always an update waiting every time I go to the market for most of my apps even after updating.

Some (not all) notifications are being delayed by 3 or 4 hours like mail and handcent.

Does anyone have similar problems or any suggestions?

Opening app folders and starting an app seems to be taking longer than normal. I apologize if this isn't specifically ROM related, but I'm not sure what to do before wiping and reinstalling. -patiently waiting for 1.4, because 1.3.1 really rocks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
My $.02:

Completely wipe both caches and factory reset phone in recovery. Then install Magnolia 1.3.2.

...and then continue with the patience thing until 1.4 comes out. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I agree with the above recommendation. I wiped/factory reset when I moved from Virtuous to Magnolia 1.2 and when I updated from Magnolia 1.3.2 to 1.4 beta and both transitions were/are solid and stable.

I did *not* do so when going from 1.2 --> 1.3.1 --> 1.3.2 and had issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
+1

I have to say that I too am starting to run into some oddities on 1.3.2. I find I am locking up from time to time now (be it a game, or even email today). My phone charges powered off, so I am on a reboot at least once a day. Rather than try to figure it out, I keep checking to see if 1.4 is out (as 1.3.2 did not work for me). Just posting in case anyone else is having similar, so you know you are not alone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] intersysx:
I'm also having some sporadic reboots on 1.3.2 Today I had two reboots occur, one in the middle of a call. Looking forward to 1.4
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
I, too, had one in the middle of a call, then an hour or so later I had a process run amok or something and had to pull the battery.

Might not be 1.32-related. I installed the new EVO radio earlier in the week. We'll see.... :cool:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
With all due respect, if you're flashing radios and encountering issues, I would look there long before I would look to the ROM for solutions. You're messing with the hardware.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
I was just commenting that coincidentally or not, I'd had some issues on that day. No stress.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Yes and No

I agree, but just to be clear, I do not flash radios or kernels and am STOCK on both. I am thinking 1.3.1 is starting to have conflicts with later installed or later updated apps. I don't think there is anything anyone can or should do here, other than wait for 1.4 or reflash, but I did want to point out there is something destabilizing the prior installs.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
None intended. I've thought about flashing radios myself but I don't need the aggravation. ;-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] edbro9:
Boy, it is quiet around here!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wamsille:
Did everyone just leave for the Incredible 2?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MyronW:
Not me. I still have a year left on this one!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
The Incredible 2 isn't appreciably different than the original Incredible (single core, 3G only). The only marked difference is the front-facing camera (like I need another distraction while texting and crossing the street.....)

I believe 1.4 is coming....soon. (Sooner than a Sense 2.0 or Gingerbread OTA update for the Incredible from Verizon).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Wjats 1.4?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Magnolia 1.4. I'm running the beta. Steve hopes to unleash it soon.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RyanTX:
Lol. Kidding? It's the next version of Magnolia.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RyanTX:
Is there a way to remove app folders? I didn't find any instructions in the op.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] VZYGuy:
Look in post #3, Rosie Remaps and flash one of the "no app folders" zips: use default naf if you want the same look without app folders.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
** crickets chirping **
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Seconded

Yup ... did anyone that moved to Skyraider a month ago stay on it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
I didn't. SR4 just didn't do anything for me and seemed a little clunky - but it very well could be me and not the ROM. A lot of people seem to like it.

Came back to Magnolia for awhile and now test-driving Re-engineered Z. But will come back for 1.4 as soon as it hits. Hope Steve is okay.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m1rked:
I'm still on it but may try out something gingerbready today. Patiently waiting for 1.4 :).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
I did and am having no issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blockhead42:
Yep, it runs great. But id rather have 1.4 :p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Agreed ... But we may have to face the reality at some point.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MyronW:
I haven't found another ROM that I like enough to switch to. I've tried most of them, and some have been really good. But after a while, cumulative faults start building, stability starts to go, and then all hell breaks loose. Usually it's random reboots, more and more, but it's the boot loops that are the ticket to the ash can.

A quick restore to Magnolia, and life is good again.

Even if we don't see 1.4, this rev is a good one, and it will be my home base for a good long while.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
1.3.2 is still my daily. It just seems to work well..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Not going to be an apologist here, but fact is, the primary idea is for the smartphone to work, and at least for me, to help me work and in my work. Not that I don't use it as a toy from time to time, but I do have other toys.

I remember when the Palm Garnet platform was abandoned as the Palm Pre and WebOS came out. Suddenly development for the Treo 755p, which had been one of the best products, slowed to a crawl, and updates slowed, and, miraculously, my Treo was more stable than it had been in years (and I had needed to replace it 4 times).

Now it's May. The Incredible has been out 13 months, and anybody who got one knows that we're closing on only 6 months to the right to upgrade our handsets. That means December or early January which is just a fantastic time of year for technology, all new stuff comes out for the holidays, and there's generally the pick of the litter. So after watching xda-forums for months, I noticed that the updates have slowed for Incredibles, too.

I suppose there will be an uptick after the 2.3 update is released and the ROM chefs cook more Gingerbread and Sense 2.0 in to ROM's (heck, you're already seeing that here at xda). But for now, stability is at a premium.

So while I'm frustrated that 1.4 isn't out yet (especially cause I feel guilty about having the 1.4 beta running smoothly....), I'm not about to go looking for trouble and deal with all the steps required before flashing a completely different ROM.

Which is just a really long drawn out way of saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
[Droid Incredible Android Development] edbro9:
I agree with you. I think the frustration comes from the fact that we have been at the "any day now" point for over a month.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Every day my phone tries to automatically download the update to appfolders, I adm reminded that 1.4 is not out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
See post #1709 above, I've posted the appfolders update pulled from 1.4 beta.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Apologies $ Update

Hi everyone, I just wanted to drop a note to apologize for my absence. I had a relapse of my eye problems (bad one), then surgery and am still not able to read well. This is getting really frustrating.

I have asked my unbelievably patient and beautiful wife to type this as I speak (don't worry, his wife knows he's a dork). I would ask that people either (a) be patient, or (2) use another ROM until I can see enough to push work out. I now believe it will be weeks (2-3) before I can realistically get anything done.

Again, I am very sorry for the delay, but as you all know, I have to watch out for my health before anything else. Believe me, my clients are angrier at me than you all are.

I also grant the beta testers permission to link to the 1.4 ROM they received if people are getting flash happy (he wants me to put a smiley in, but I won't). There are a few small bugs, but nothing too crazy.

Thanks!

Steve
[Droid Incredible Android Development] edbro9:
Sorry to hear of your problems. Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery.

I'd love to get the beta 1.4 if one of the testers could post it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Thanks for the update, Steve (and spouse). Please DO take care of yourself, first. This flashing stuff is NOT mission-critical for anybody. Get well soon!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erik1213:
Steve, get better soon man. I cannot imagine what you're going through. Take all the time you need, we can wait.

If the 1.4 beta is posted, I would love to know the small bugs that testers have found as well. And if the beta testers would recommend running the 1.4beta or staying on 1.3.2.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ohredwood:
As I figured, Steves involvement/participation in the past has been a day to two at most and for several days to go by, I knew something had to be wrong again. Damn, well like I said before bud, I know your thoughts, I had a scary loss of vision after a recent eye surgery and nothing really mattered to me except the possibility of being blind, scared the hell out of me. Another surgery and I was on the road to recovery, hope you are getting the best answers and treatment for a successful recovery bud!!!!!

As a side note, as the other folks mentioned, curious to know the bugs in the beta 1.4, but if it's anything significant, I'll wait.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Before I post the link, I want to make a few things very clear. This is sk806's ROM, and I am not about to start taking over support. I practice law full time and this stuff is just a hobby.

Secondly, the beta file WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE. So, make sure you backup everything, Nandroid, etc. because even if you don't wipe it, the flash process will.

Thirdly, the only two nagging issues I have had with the beta are as follows:

1. The phone powers up with "stay on while charging". You have to manually change that. I tried a Tasker script and it would not reliably run.

2. The marketplace will rarely, but occasionally, produce a reboot on an update. Disclaimer - This might not be the ROM. I recently noticed that Titanium will "integrate" updates into system apps, and I had not yet done this. Since I have done it, I have had no Marketplace reboots.

3. Steve cooked in a SD card speed enhancement which I actually removed and inserted a different one. If you have issues, search the xda-developers form for "SD speed fix" and you'll see another thread with an alternative approach. I am posting the pure BETA, not my own version.

Otherwise, the ROM is quite stable, more so than 1.3.2. Also, Devildog's mods, and the mods I have run for 1.3.2 all work, however, I only used a few of them:

A. I have the color menus

B. I have the color notification icons and circle battery

C. I have the rotary lockscreen

D. I am using the AppFolders cooked into the ROM.

Now, with all of those disclosures and warnings, etc. etc. Here is Magnolia 1.4 BETA.

As they say, "Party on, Garth."

Cheers

Harold
[Droid Incredible Android Development] m1rked:
Feel better dude :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MyronW:
Steve, sorry to hear of your continued trouble. I hope your recovery gets back on track speedily and soon!

Myron
[Droid Incredible Android Development] shuura:
I second that Steve!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gr8nole:
Anyone know which smali needs to be edited to change the color of the green status indicators in the notification bar power control widget. I can't get the settings app to change it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Doesn't "indicator control" option work?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gr8nole:
I've tried numerous times, but it never changes. I swapped the services.jar with one from the original mod and it worked, but my phone would randomly reboot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Thanks for posting this. Just tried to install (via old and new versions of CW) and got installation aborted both times. Will re-download and try again.

Update:

Downloaded again, got it to install. Booted up and the app drawer wouldn't open no matter what I tried.

Wiped and reinstalled again. Booted up and app drawer worked like normal. Loaded my apps (no system data) from Titanium. All was well for about a half hour; now unlock goes to a blank screen. I'll continue to play with this, but I may sit back and await further development when Steve is feeling better.

BTW, not asking for support or anything; just posting my results. YMMV! ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
I flashed Magnolia 1.4 Beta using ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8. I have since updated to 3.0.0.8 so I can't say whether I could reflash it with the current CWM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] edbro9:
I flashed 1.4 beta using CWM 3.0.0.8 and I have not experienced any problems.

I know it was probably redundant but I wiped everything before I flashed, including Davlik cache.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
How do i turn off the wake when charging? Im tryin 1.4 and so far do good. Love the wallpaper options.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gr8nole:
Settings...Applications...Development
[Droid Incredible Android Development] edbro9:
Mine didn't do that. I had the Stay Awake unchecked and my phone goes to sleep while charging. I never had to configure it, despite 3 or 4 reboots since upgrading to 1.4b.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] VZYGuy:
Home>menu>settings>applications>development>stay awake
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Well after installing the BETA 4 or 5 times (wiping, wiping everything everytime), I finally got it to settle down and everything seems to be working very well. I loaded up Devildog's mods as well with no issues at all.

It's fast, pretty, and for about 24 hours now, stable.

FWIW, I don't have the "wake while charging" issue either. Now I'm off to track down a better camera. :)

Thank you Steve and Harold!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jdmba:
Pulldown

Argh ... Gingerbread Leak and Steve out of commission :(

The one thing I really like about Magnolia is that the pulldown also includes ability to enable and disable WiFi and Bluetooth and GPS, but still has all the other stuff from a pulldown. Does anyone know how to apply that specific mod to a different ROM?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Just curious, are all of you on 1.4 Beta using the supplied kernel? I wonder if that "stay awake anomaly" is a function of my using Chad's Incredikernel with the ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gr8nole:
Using supplied kernel here, "stay awake" was off by default when I flashed 1.4 beta
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erik1213:
Interesting thought. I'm on chad's right now with 1.3.2. Haven't gotten the chance to flash 1.4 Beta yet. When I do, which should be sometime in the next few days, I'll let you know if I end up having the same issue. I like to keep it on the stock kernel for the first day or two to let the system settle and then start flashing kernels...this way I know if the problem is me or the ROM. I'll keep you updated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Still using the supplied kernal to test battery life. Chad's Incredikernal is typically my kernal of choice and I usually end up flashing it soon after flashing a new ROM. So I'll let you know how that goes when I get around to that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drtchocky:
In my running services there is:

SyncService com.fusionone.android.sync.service

and

Obex Service com.htc.bgp

and

Google Services Framework com.google.processes.gapps

and

something about messages transaction service....

hmmmm.... will wait and see if it calms down. I shut off syncing on gmail and facebook.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
OK. Added to known issues (and added link to fix) in OP. It was, in fact, the stripped language files. May need to have RC3.1 for this. D'oh...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
where is it in post #3? I don't see the fix for voice search there yet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Yeah, moved to known issues in OP. Man you are fast!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
Did you wipe your dalvik cache before flashing? I have found that my sync-related problems tend to be cleared up when I wipe this, as well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
hehehe..

installed the fix. works like a charm. thanks.

now all i can ever want for now.. is that green phone icon in the colored rosie :).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drtchocky:
I did a dalvik wipe but I will try another one.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sk806:
You mean this?

Its up in post #3. And I echo your hehehe...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
jesus man!.. you are too fast and too good. Again worked like a charm!

PM me whenever your are ready to take donations :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drtchocky:
Question: Been so long since I used sense.... how do I turn off the animations on the clock?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
You mean the weather animations? remove the widget and add it again.. I believe you'll get the option to turn off full screen animation.

Also, you do know the animation stops as soon as you touch something.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drtchocky:
Yeah I did... just trying to milk all the battery I possibly can right now. With the stock setup I was getting just over 6-7 hours depending on how heavy my usage.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
there could be a variety of reasons for that. Are you bump charging? (charging the phone with the phone switched off)? That'll help if you are not already doing it.

i use a battery wall charger and I flip out batteries as I go.

this is one of the few ROMS that has given very good battery life to my phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
For the next update.. I suggest tweaking the Camera apk to include an on-screen camera button. They somehow are easier to use and more precise than finger-holding or using the optical trackpad (those options are still there to use with an on-screen button). I also suggest an option to have dBM meter instead of signal bars. I have never seen that done by anyone other than the guys behind CM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drtchocky:
whatchoo charging your wall for?! :P
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kriskmk:
hehehehe... I know it sounds wrong.. but google battery wall charger and you'll see :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] drtchocky:
Oh and my usual method of charging is to charge the phone while on until LED goes green. Then I turn it off, unplug it, replug it until it goes green again at which time I unplug it again recaharging it until it goes immediately green when I plug it in.....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bitjockey:
This ROM is nice so far! Snappy and clean. I like it. Holding my breath for good battery life...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] VZYGuy:
The RC2 looks great. Thank you for all the hard work.

Would it be possible to leave the Verizon 3GHotSpot in the ROM aor mate it available to install? I prefer it to the WiFi Router, and it is easier for my wife to turn it on / off using the 3G Widget.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mp3sum:
Do the status bar power icons stay in sync?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] edbro9:
Supplied kernel here and no Stay Awake problem.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Flashed Chad's kernal this morning: no stay awake issue.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hgoldner:
Thanks to everyone for their responses. Guess I just have to remind myself to turn that off after each boot.

Meanwhile, have flashed the new radio which leaked with Gingerbread for Incredible yesterday. (The best thread for that radio is here.)

I'm not tempted by the Gingerbread leak because it still sports Sense 1.0, and I think Sense 2.0 will be in the final OTA update. One reason I think that is because it's noticeably lacking in Verizon bloatware. And I'm not normally a tinkerer with radios (because unlike ROM's, it's far easier to brick your phone with a bad radio flash), but the reviews are fairly decent so far.

Dunno when Steve will be free to cut 1.4 loose, but hoping that he'll manage to cook some Gingerbread and Sense 2.0 into later versions.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] roxylove:
I doubt it's possible, but I was wondering something. Since the radio is what determines the 3g/4g service, would it ever be possible to flash a 4g radio onto the Incredible? Like I said, I doubt it's possible, but just something I was thinking of...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tarund:
Not possible. Incredible doesn't have a 4G/LTE capable hardware, only 3G.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] erik1213:
Was anyone able to get the Black n Bold market to work with the 1.4 beta? I tried today right after I flashed and it force closed immediately on boot up.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Did just about everything but the market one. Everything works, so far.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Devildog8791:
I never could get the Black n Bold Market to work while I was running the beta. I PM'd Steve about it, but it might have been while he was having his eye problem because he never responded. I am running Skyraider 4.0 at the moment until Steve comes out with the official release. Hopefully since the Gingerbread leak came out, he will venture towards that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k1mu:
Well, I upgraded to 1.4 from 1.3.2 and it's not good.

I installed with wipe, reinstalled my applications. The phone won't stay running.

Frequent restarts, even though I'm using applications. (Restart as in the app closes, I see the Magnolia splash screen, then I see the Sense login.)

Any ideas? Should I try reinstalling 1.4 beta, or revert to 1.3.2?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
How did you re-install your applications?