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[Galaxy Tab General] simon2901:
Hey

First of i would like to say that i have been reading on xda since the old winmo days where i rooted and customized my phones. Now it is my time to write my first post here, which i have close to doing many times, im from Denmark by the way. :)

Not long ago i sold my beloved Htc hd2, which i had running Android, and i bought the Nokia N8 due since i am heavy on the music and photos. My plan was to get a 7 inch tablet with android for the rest of my needs, which the N8 could not for fill, and even though i had read some places that the tab was slower than one would expect i got myself a used one ( like new) for about half the retail prize.

Now i must say that i am really bugged out about this Tab, it is super slick, the screen and the form factor is nice, the internals are great ( much the same as the new google developer phone, that should be good?) but still this thing runs poorly on froyo 2.2. Really i dont see people saying this is acceptable, since i really dont think it is, i dont mean to flame, since i love android and phones in generel, but even my Htc hd2 had smoother performance than the tab, i find that hard to be true.

It is not slow in generel use, its proberly about what a galaxy s with stock would be, but in things such as the web browser, which should be essensial for a tablet, the galaxy tab really sucks, it is so bad that my nokia n8 with opera mobile nearly handles the web better, and thats really saying something! I tryed about all browsers in the android markedplace and ofcourse one can find a much better one than the stock ( of course you have to turn flash off, even through i think it is a shame)

I ended up using Opera Mobile since it is by far the fastest, it seems to me through that its not running the native res of the tab, could i be right?, is it true that some apps will show fullscreen without being the full res of the tab? i looked allover the web for days trying to get a grip of things without luck, really hope to get some answers :)

Now what would love to learn some more about would be the future prospects of the Galaxy tab, Is it in the hands of many developers?, will we see custom roms? (since i am not much for stock and touchwizz). Can we expect the Tab to be get much faster, should it not have the same or similar performances as the Nexus S or Galaxy S?

A final thing that i was wondering was about the res of the tabs screen. Is that whats coursing the troubles, the lagg? is that what makes it slow someplaces and makes the webbrowser work like a windows mobile 6.5 stock browser (or worse :rolleyes:)

The reason why i am thinking that now is that i just read on Engadget that the Galaxy tab 2 will have Tegra 2 and that it seems very likely that Tegra 2 will be the processor in allot of gingerbread android tablet. Is the hummingbird to slow to handle higher resolution screens? (I really, REALLY hope that is not the case)

Maybe someone with a Archos 101 could prove me wrong (or another android tablet with higher res)???

Well thats it for me, really hope to get some answers since i know this is the best place to ask this sort of questions! :)
[Galaxy Tab General] Justin^Tan:
i'm on JM6 and somehow i still dont get what people say about silkky or buttery smooth >.<

mine is kinda laggy (still), and the stock browser gets laggy too when get scrolled up or down, i'm going back to miren browser

i do love putting widget though in my screen, but when i see homescreen post, some of them got a lot of widget too

wonder what's wrong with mine

already using launcher pro, better in term of scrolling than touchwiz with lots of pages (App Drawer)

but scrolling screen still gives me lag

quoting everybody else, after tegra 2 maybe there will be a tegra 3 or whatsoever so if you wait and wait, you'll wait for the rest of your life

i'm jumping on the wagon here, and i'm pretty satisfied actually, but since this is my 1st android phone, i have nothing to compare

gingerbread is definitely come to us , so i dont really care if the requirements need tegra 2

if my tab can handle it, so rock on, if it cant, then just wait for another device capable of gingerbread and sell this one

but since nexus S is using the same 1ghz and using gingerbread also, i dont think tegra 2 is necessary for it

maybe for honeycomb, we'll never know

keep crossing ur finger ^^
[Galaxy Tab General] simon2901:
Thanks for your quick response. I hope your right with the requirements since it really makes sense that the nexus s would be apple to opgrade.

To me miren Browser is very laggy i really want to use it just don't run smoothly. Thinking about trying flashing one of the roms out there maybe I should wait for a official.
[Galaxy Tab General] checkbox111:
It's not the processor, it's the OS! and Gingerbread aint gonna fix it because it aint designed for tablets. Honeycombe is 'supposed' to be designed for use with tablets so you'll have to wait until 3Q 2011.

I don't know why people are surprised when they realise this as 'sticky', 'laggy', 'freezing' were words all mentioned in every review i've ever read about the tab.

Unless of course you only read Samsungs own review which would be slightly bias.
[Galaxy Tab General] appelflap:
I once had a Toshiba Folio 100 with a Tegra 2 processor (for 5 days :) ) and it was just as fast/slow as the Tab. Don't know if Gingerbread is going to make the nvidea processor perform a lot better. As far as I know it is a driver thing.

Except for the browser, I think the Tab is fast enough for me.
[Galaxy Tab General] kromosto:
This performance thing is relative. For example simon2901 you said htc hd2 has better android performance. I have both tab and hd2 now, nearly tried every android build for hd2 but cant find anything that has the performance that makes me feel really usable. But you think the opposite and this shows how relative this thing can be.

I flashed my tab to jm6 as Justin^Tan and i am agree with him. People say it is silky or very smooth but i all can say is it is smoother then my stock rom. Another proof of how this can be relative.

And i agree with appleflap except browser tab is enough for me too. Browser is enough in most cases for me too but when i browse a fully loaded page with flash it really is a pain.

As from the Gingerbread i only expect is make power drain of some apps more reasonable.
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
It's the OS... I come from an OS for which bloggers like to make fun (WM 6.5.5), however the custom ROMs for my TP2 were in the end quite fast. And I feel like I had more functionalities

This has nothing to do with Samsung's hardware. The Hummingbird is actually as (more) powerful as what you find in the iPad (And we have more memory with our Tab)

If I were you I would not expect too much from Gingerbread. Doesn't look like much more than a minor upgrade with a few tweaks. Quite different from the move from 2.1 to 2.2 let's put our hope sin Honeycombs...

It's kind of normal, it's a young OS and to be honest it's impressive to see the work that has been accomplished since the first versions of android. Given its quick growth we can hope to see more and more good apps and hopefully improved support for custom ROMs. That said teh Tab doesnt seem so popular among modders and chefs (maybe because of the price ? Or just because Clockwork seems more difficult to develop ?) so I ma not sure we can hope that much for the future for us :(
[Galaxy Tab General] paulshields:
Gingerbread actually does have some performance improvements imho. Running it on my nexus one and the screen transitions have improved over Froyo (dare I say - as silky smooth as on the ipad? :)). So I would expect the Tab to feel a bit slicker too once it gets some Gingerbread love. Personally, I'm not finding the Tab to be sluggish at all. Running Launcher Pro, JM6 firmware, Miren browser, a few widgets, tons of apps, no live wallpaper, and it's all very smooth.
[Galaxy Tab General] simon2901:
Jm 6 is that a custom rom or just a minor update, how does it compare to stock, since mine certainly not smooth with miren. I laggs so much only opera is useable
[Galaxy Tab General] paulshields:
JM6 is a Euro firmware that's been posted in the dev section here. I'm not sure it improves performance compared to stock, but then I flashed this pretty much the same day as I got the Tab so can't really compare :). I believe it has some performance improvements with the stock browser, but I prefer Miren anyway. I really don't see any lagging with Miren, or at least none that I can't attribute to poor wifi connections etc. It's certainly way slicker than the stock browser. The pinch to zoom font rendering on stock is appalling whereas on Miren it preserves quality. Not tried Opera on the Tab though I hear it's fast...

Have you tried using a different launcher than stock Touchwiz? Launcher Pro or ADW should both give you improvements in performance.
[Galaxy Tab General] Jyveafk:
That so many people's first experiences with it are probably as a demo unit, I can see why they say it doesn't feel as smooth as an iPad.

Aye, you can swap launchers and tweak settings.

But most stores have them running loaded up with widgets, running some livewallpaper, and touchwiz. It IS jerky. Or rather, not as smooth as the iPad.

Ok, so the job still gets done, and as a techy myself, I'm happy with what's doable, but that perception amongst most users is that it's not as smooth as it could be seems to be an obvious win if they can sort it out.

Even on the Tab, bringing the Notifiction bar down; sure it's fast enough, but it doesn't animate as it scrolls down (though if it did, personally I'd want an option to turn that off so it insta dropped!).

That all the hardware coming out now has pretty decent openGL support now, I can see that'll be the main thing in future UI improvements, moving more of it to hardware acceleration. I get a feeling that it's all being done in software.

It can only get better from here. A bit of polish on the first thing most users will see will be hugely beneficial later.
[Galaxy Tab General] ftgg99:
I find almost all of the above judgements entirely false. The OS workd perfectlyt for me without any lag or any kind of lag fixes. Im on JK5.

All it takes is a few shrewd decisions on the software that you use with the OS. My browser doesnt lag - I use the Fennec nighly builds which are silky smooth with opengl rendering and without.

I have removed bloatware and services that clog up the purity of googles stock 2.2.

I do use a task manager to kill certain services on a selewctive basis.

I get 2 days light use out of it, which is just fine!

And there is never any lag anywhere.
[Galaxy Tab General] knightnz:
This is acceptable.

There, I said it. I find it to be perfectly smooth, not sure why you're having a problem with it.

Use DolphinHD as the browser as it offers far more functionality than the default, and use ADW or LauncherPro as the homescreen as they both offer more functionality and better performance than the default.

As mentioned, gingerbread will offer a performance increase, but it's unlikely to be significant. It's entirely possible that Samsung will never port Honeycomb to the tab as they'll want to use it as a selling point for the Galaxy Tab 2 when it eventually comes out (and who knows when that'll be), the future is most likely going to come from custom ROMs if you want to improve the device as it stands.

I always purchase hardware with what CAN be done with it in mind, not what MIGHT be done to it in the future. Hoping for upgrades is a waste of energy, if you don't like the hardware in its initial state, or a state that you can transform it to straight away (rooting it, flashing already available ROMs etc) then don't purchase it, simple as that.
[Galaxy Tab General] gerrylum:
Well, by the time the Galaxy Tab 2 comes out, I would think Samsung would stop officially selling the Galaxy Tab 1 so it wouldn't matter if the Tab1 had Honeycomb or not. Its' not like it would be cutting into Galaxy Tab 2 sales.
[Galaxy Tab General] simon2901:
well im glad some have good experiences with the web and smoothness of the device, i think i forgot to say that i am currenty on stock rom as i bought it, i read that there is some good performance improvements in the leaked firmware updates, still i would wait rooting, doing all that stuff untill things settle down a bit, it all seems confusing to me atm ( maybe it just is more complicated compared to winmo, htc hd2).

Well reading about the newer firmware out there got me in a better mood, knowing that samsung knows that things are not right yet is very comforting, i mean, i would assume all tabs sold in Denmark have the same firmware as mine, and that means bad performance compared to even the galaxy s, that is not acceptable, not at all.

Saying that this is a phone os and so on and therefore things dont run as expected. is neither acceptable since it should not run worse on a bigger device, i mean android do not discriminate? I am not looking for Ipad performance, since i got one in the household, and i still prefer using the tab, even though browsing is better on Safari (Flash dont work properly atm, rather just use the new youtubeclient, which i enjoy except the quality should be higher( proberly will be in time)

It is great to read your comments, gotta love xda :)
[Galaxy Tab General] Justin^Tan:
even if they stop selling galaxy tab 1, if they did release honeycomb into tab 1, people would hold onto their tab 1 if there's no significant upgrade on hardware

but if they dare only giving honeycomb onto tab 2, some people would definitely jump onto tab 2 for sure
[Galaxy Tab General] Adapt0r:
It is never ending search for perfection that does not exist.

Something will come tomorrow with better CPU/GPU/screen.....

My experience is good enough. I turned of animation - major cause of lags, left one widget. Everything works just fine for my taste.
[Galaxy Tab General] simon2901:
Hmm well is that fine Having to turn of animations and not use widgets? :) i just hope we will see custom roms with newer versions. What firmware v. are you using?

I'm really thinking about trying newer builds :)
[Galaxy Tab General] hyann:
I still don't get the "lag"that everyone is noticing.I'm using dolphin HD and it's perfectly smooth for me. I did root and lagfix, not sure if that is the difference.
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
Cool good to know about the perf improvement :)

Sad to see the ipad is still "the" reference :(
[Galaxy Tab General] simon2901:
Maybe it's the laggfix? Is that safe to use? Thought it was a galaxy s fix :) i guess I just ships with different roms, the good thing is that things will and can improve :) was thinking about selling my tab but since I got it for half the price i might just keep it. Android really got some great things going for it on such a big screen, i actually think the os here is more tablet suitable than ios :)
[Galaxy Tab General] paulshields:
It's only the "reference" in that the screen transitions are usually a bit slicker on the iPad (compared to the Tab running Froyo). There's really very little in it though, and I'm simultaneously running a hell of a lot more things on the Tab than I am able to on the iPad. As far as functionality and usability goes the iPad doesn't really compare. The Tab is really the faster device as you can do a lot more at the same time ;).
[Galaxy Tab General] simon2901:
A question: do I have to root my device to use odin, and update firmware atm? What can firmware v should I choose? :)
[Galaxy Tab General] simon2901:
Oh and will I be able to update new official firmware later without troubles?
[Galaxy Tab General] hyann:
I used zroot to root,then did the OCLF in the tab development forum here at xda. I think you would have to reflash the rom back to stock if you want to get new updates.

And yes, the lagfix makes things much better.

I'm now lying comfortably on the couch typing on my pad with both hands.:) love this lagfixed pad!
[Galaxy Tab General] seven2099:
Hey guys, I'm currently running RotoJMA.

I have a Canadian Galaxy Tab and after flashing JM6 I flashed JMA. Ran it for a while and although the browser is smoother than stock I do find that Miren Browser makes my tab incredibly smooth. I also will say the performance on JMA is a lot better but these are still developement builds. Its such a great experience now and after using OLFC fir the Tab things seem ziipy. I will say its not perfect but it is much better than stock and it has made using this a blast..

Just my two cents
[Galaxy Tab General] simon2901:
Okay i think i am gonna root. My current version is

pda: p1000xwjj3

phone: P1000xxjid

Csc: P1000neejj2

What version should i flash?

Will my data be deleted? Can you recommend a backup app?

Any tips to avoid messing up my device?
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
Samsung should work more on using the GPU for screen animations (Is uspect it's on teh CPU). The Tab has the best GPU that's around at the moment (Until tegra2 is actually out)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twrock:
I need some help modifying a Froyo rom to include a "GSM only" setting.

The background is that under certain conditions (i.e. intermittently), the cell radio shows full connection, but will not allow calls, incoming or outgoing. I finally narrowed a workable solution down to forcing "GSM only" (vs. auto selection of CDMA and GSM networks). But I can only get there at the moment by adding the "Phone info" custom shortcut to my home screen (ADW Launcher) and going in and setting it manually. And unfortunately that doesn't always survive a reboot either.

I would like to simply pre-set that in the rom and not have to re-set it again. I had assumed it was something that could be done in one of the init or prop file, but I have thus far not been successful in finding information about where and how to do that.

Any help would be appreciated.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] twrock:
Solved. For anyone else who stumbles upon this question, the setting in build.prop is:

ro.telephony.default_network=#

Where the # is a number code for which setting you want. In my experimentation for my device, "ro.telephony.default_network=0" is WCDMA preferred and ro.telephony.default_network=1 is GSM only.

I "think" the other codes are as follows (but I can not confirm this):

0 WCDMA preferred

1 GSM only

2 WCDMA only

3 GSM auto (PRL)

4 CDMA auto (PRL)

5 CDMA only

6 EvDo only

7 GSM/CDMA auto (PRL)

8 Unknown

Additionally, if you want to set it temporarily while the phone is running, you can launch the phone info settings by entering this on your phone's keypad:

*#*#4636#*#*

But I believe it will revert to whatever you have in build.prop at the next reboot. No matter what you set in build.prop, you can still go into your Wireless & network settings, Mobile networks, and click on or off the "Use only 2G networks" setting.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xNotta:
I wasn't sure if this belongs in Q&A or in Accessories, so if it's wrong, please move.

I've been reading that a lot of other phones can't make use of a MicroSD card with higher than a Class 6 speeds.

Even if they have a Class 10 Micro SD card, it will only perform at Class 6 speeds.

But writing from computer to MicroSD card (in the phone) can reach Class 10 speeds.

I don't want to spend the extra money on a class 10 card, when it's only going to run at class 6 speeds.

Has anyone been able to find (for certain) that the Evo can make use of any class speeds above 6?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xNotta:
I really hate to bump my own thread, but...

Htc replied to my email.

They say the evo is only capable of reading at class 2 speeds even with a class 10.

Can anyone clear this up for me?

Thanks again.

My Evo made me Swype this from the XDA App.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sanfordturbo:
I am in the same boat as you. I've been searching for an answer on many forums and have found many posts that indicate HTC support representatives testing the EVO up to a class 4 with success. . .

I've also read that people have major problems with 32GB cards.

I have done some personal testing with my EVO and Windows 7 ; assuming the Win7 file transfer screen are close to reliable....cough. I also have USB debugging enabled on the EVO.

Transferring 700MB file:

EVO Samsung class 2, 8GB card ~ 4.64MB/sec (write to card)

Adata class 6, 4GB card ~ 11.8MB/sec (write to card)

I don't have a class 4 card to test with.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aph:
Download SD Card Speed Test. My 16gb class 6 checks out as a class 6, and it all runs within the phone.

The only way to find out about class 10 is to have someone with a class 10 card run the test.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Khilbron:
Yes the Evo can only as they said, Read at Class 2, however the big thing we are looking for are Write speeds. Which is why we use a higher class. I am using the Wintec 16gb Class 10 card, and i get 9mb/s write speeds to it. And it is also cheap, got mine for 29.99 from the egg.
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
Update (1/13):

Several people have gotten the Galaxy Tab Swype working on Nookie Froyo by changing their build.prop to spoof the Tab.

It still won't work on the stock B&N ROM.

This was posted from watzone69 for nookie installation:

"I got Swype working on Froyo Nookie thanks to wvcachi.

Go to tegratab and find the files you need. Edit the build.prop to change the device ID stuff (use the one in the OP as a guide, I copied most the top part). Push that back to /system/ and then push the apk to /system/app/ and the lib file to /system/lib/. Reboot and set it up in Settings > Language and keyboard the way you like it. Long press a text field, select input, pick swype and start swyping!"

Original Post (referring to stock ROM):

I got Swype completely working on my rooted Nook Color, but the changes made also make the system unusable.

It involves pushing the Galaxy Tab apk and lib file (which I can't post on xda) and then editing the build.prop file to make Swype think you're on a Galaxy Tab. Pushing the files alone will give you a pretty sweet (IMO) tap-only version of Swype, but the build.prop editing is what makes it actually swype.

This is a link to my working build.prop file if anyone wants to check it out (don't push my file, better to backup and edit yours if you want to try....actually, if you don't already know that, I'd recommend avoiding this for now).

Example build.prop: http://db.tt/S7gSsmH

Major system bugs:

when I put the NC to sleep, the screen turns black--but stays on. It usually then crashes and requires a hard reboot. So unfortunately, this is unusable right now.

Trace Keyboard Alternative:

SlideIT keyboard works, and I actually like it much better than I did the last time I tried it (their updates have really improved it in my opinion). Instructions on pg. 2 of thread.

Original Post:

Several of us have gotten as far as having the Galaxy Tab version as a tap-only keyboard (an excellent option in itself IMO).

I saw that some Viewsonic G-tab users were able to get full Swype functionality by pushing the Galaxy Tab swype.apk and libSwypeCore.so files, then editing the build.prop to make Swype think it's on a galaxy tab.
[Nook Color General] captfoss:
I don't think there is a way to do it without the source code or a beta key. The swype package is encrypted somehow and the device restrictions seem to be hard coded into the release...ll
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
I'm in the beta, but the Swype Installer (not surprisingly) won't download anything on the NC...
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
OP updated
[Nook Color General] daveknights:
Swype is doing an AMA on reddit. Here was my question about swype and the NC.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com...ty_relations_specialist_ama/c19tp85?context=3
[Nook Color General] syncron:
How does the posted build.prop spoof a Galaxy Tab? It looks like the regular NC build.prop file.
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
Thanks for the tip - I posted the wrong file. OP updated with correct file.