yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magentawave:
I figured out how to copy and paste stuff just before you replied. I'm also downloading everything with my emulator on my mac and its working fine.

I downloaded the loader ( EBL2.1a._PlusUbuntu.CAB ) you suggested. I created a folder in the root of the SD card for the loader files and named the folder "EBL2.1a._PlusUbuntu.CAB" just so I would know what it was in the future. Then I dragged the 4 files into that folder. I restarted the phone but there is no Android icon to click on to launch Android. The name of the files in the folder are: 00000EBL.002, 00config.001, EBL21A~1.0000, _setup (_setup is an xml file).

Then I got rid of that stuff and installed another launcher I saw here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKVoqgcZxMI and it didn't work either.

Do you know why the launcher isn't working?

Thanks again.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] huggs:
You have to tap the EBL .cab file while in File Explorer in WinMo.

.cab's are installers for WinMo. Install that one to storage memory. You won't need to create any folders or anything, the .cab will do everything for you:)

Did that other .cab I attched get Android goin for ya again?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zarathustrax:
Do not unzip or unpack the .cab files... keep them whole and launch them from your file explorer on your phone.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magentawave:
Okay, to clarify please, and again, I really appreciate you taking the time to help me...

Install the launcher (the .cab file)

to the device

- then open it from the File Explorer and it will put everything in the correct place. Right?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] huggs:
It doesn't matter where you put the .cab, jjust when you tap on it, you will be given a choice of where you want the program to be installed to. When you tap it in File Explorer, the phone will give you a choice of installing to device or sd card

Install the sdkcerts to device

install the EBL to sd card

Its no problem, we were all new to this stuff at one time:)

after a while of getting used to how things work with these devices, it'll be second nature to you
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Antimus:
Why do I get the feeling that this is the best troll of the year?

If you only just got your HD2 and you don't even know how to use Windows Mobile too well. Putting Android on probably isn't the best idea yet. For one, no android build is 100% stable, no matter what they say.

You may be better sticking with WM6.5 for now until you're a little more adept with it. Every Android build warns that this shouldnt be done by a beginner, which you clearly are.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magentawave:
I got Android installed on my HTC HD2 and it seems to be working great!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH to those that generously took the time to answer all my lame questions...and especially to you huggs! :-)

But of course I have a few more questions please...

1) This HD2 has what I assume is the 16gb SD card that came with it when it was new from T-Mobile. I have no idea what class that SD card is. I was wondering if a

Class 6 32gb SD card

would be slower than the existing 16gb card?

2) I've tried a few apps that came with the current build (Android 2.2.1, Build number: NexusHD2-FRG83DV1.8) so far and some work great and a couple are freezing the phone when I try to launch them, which of course requires me to restart the phone. So far the apps I've tried that freeze the phone are: "Maps" and "Navigation." Any idea why they would cause the phone to freeze and what can I do about that?

3) Where on the phone do I delete apps I don't want and install new ones?

4) Is there a good source while using this phone I can go to that has super reliable apps? I'd like a good GPS app for driving.

5) Does a user manual for this Android build exist?

6) Windows 6.5 requires you to open the Task Manager to close all the programs you've used. Does Android require the same type of thing to close programs/apps? If so, where do you go to do that?

7) I want to set up two separate gmail accounts. One was with the gmail app and the other with the email app. How can I delete and start over with the email app?

Thanks again for all your help! :-)

Steve
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] huggs:
I am still using the stock 16gb that came with the phone myself (class 2) and it works great for me. I have heard of people having problems with all the different speed classes, but to be honest, the class 6 (fastest class) seem to be the ones with the most problems.

If maps and other basic apps are causing the phone to freeze, you probably have an older build, that's not as stable as the more recent stuff. I would suggest starting over with a newer build. You can always save the one you have now on your pc.

If you want to delete apps that are built in, get an app from the market called Root Explorer. Use it to navigate to system/app and delete the relevant .apk file that has the name of the app you want to be rid of in the name of the .apk

Like the google search widget would be something like com.googlequicksearchbox.apk

I would say try a few different builds before you get attached to any one in particular. Now that you know where to put the Android folder, it's as simple as putting your old one back to your pc, or just renaming the folder to something like AndroidOld and then transfering the new Android folder to the same place(then you can just rename the folders to boot up your old build/s in a hurry).

Different builds are from different phones, and will have different features. I am really in favor of the Ultimate 1.62 build in my signature. It is more customizable out of the box than any build I've seen, and is 99.99% stable. You can find it on the first page of the HD2 Android Development forum.

As far as a place to find good apps, definitely the Android Market is the place to get the most stable apps. You go someplace else, you're taking your chances. Actually you can find mods of existing apps here on XDA (stuff like transparent widgets, etc.) You just want to search the Android fora from the main forum page, and take a look in other phones' fora too, sometimes you get lucky and find something cool that was maybe posted in the Nexus One (just an example) Themes and Apps forum.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magentawave:
I just tried the Navigation app again hoping that maybe it would work this time and the phone froze. I restarted it and during the restart it booted to Windows like normal and ran HTC Sense and then it goes back to the "Stick Together" window and got stuck there. I Googled the issue and saw that a couple people think the problem was because of HTC Sense. So I did a soft reset and turned off HTC Sense and everything seems okay for now.

1) Is it true that HTC Sense can cause problems when starting? And if so, is there a way to put the Android launcher on the front page of Windows without HTC Sense...or will I need to go to Settings to turn on the Android launcher from now on...assuming for the moment that HTC Sense is the issue?

2) In Windows you need to go to the Task Manager to shut down programs. How can I do the same thing in Android?

3) Is it possible that the build I'm using is good and its the Maps and Navigation apps that are bad?

Thanks again.

Steve
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] huggs:
I have never had Sense do that to me, but it is a less than perfect interface in many ways. If you want WinMo to run well with Sense enabled, be prepared to do a lot of tweaking. You'll have to become proficient with a registry editor. If you are more interested in using Android, and don't care as much about WinMo, you can disable Sense in the Today settings. Go to your Settings tab, choose All Settings, choose the homescreen/today settings, and go to where you choose which homescreen elements are active, uncheck HTC Sense and check Windows Default. Then you can launch Android from the start menu, and you won't have to worry about Sense hanging up on you like that, and you'll get a little faster load time.

If something as simple as Navigation is repeatedly freezing you, then your build isn't stable enough to use on a daily basis. I'd try another.

You can download task manager programs from the market that will do just what you're talking about, but in my experience, Android actually has a really good built-in memory management system. In Android, task killer apps will actually use just as much memory as they save, and will make your battery drain faster. A stable build should rarely if ever run into memory shortage, even with no task management apps installed. The HD2 has a butt ton of RAM.

It is possible that just the Maps and Navigation apps are bad in your particular build, or need updated. Try going into the Android Market, pressing the menu button, and choosing 'Downloads'. If you need updates to any apps, it will tell you so in there.

If your problem can't be solved by simply updating the apps, then you might as well just install a new build. It would be more work to troubleshoot and resolve the issue than it would be to just drop a whole new build on your sd card.

Half of the fun of having an HD2 is the ability to try out many different flavors of Android quite easily. On an Android-native device, you would have to flash it every time. With our phones, it's as easy as dropping a folder on your sd card. Take advantage of this, try out a few before you find one that you really want to stick with.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magentawave:
Well, I'm baaaaack and have more questions when you get a chance please...

I really liked the clean clutter-free no b.s. interface for my first build ( NexusHD2-FRG83D_V1.8__Froyo_2.2.1_ ) but had to dump it cuz it was buggy and some of the apps (Maps, Navigation, Shazam) would freeze the phone. Then I reformatted the SD card from the device and tried installing the build you recommended that has been "99.9% stable" for you (JDMS 1.6 Ultimate http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=782301 ). That build download didn't come with the CLRAD and HARET files so I dragged those from the first build (on my PC) into the Android folder on my SD card and when I tapped the HARET file it brought up an error message. I wish I could remember what that error message was but I could see that the HARET file was a .txt file. Is it supposed to be a text file? Anyway, I wasn't able to install the build you recommended so then I did this...

I installed this build which came highly recommended by others as being stable (MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.6_MDJ_S78.0 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=859817) and in the short time I've had it, it already seems less stable than my first build: the T-Moble "stick together" display freezes when booting the phone even though I turned off HTC Sense, it gets frozen on the Android side often (Android froze and vibrated incessantly until I pulled the battery when someone tried to call me while I was writing a text message).

The phones microphone doesn't seem to work with that build either

. If I call someone, or vice-versa, my phone mic's icon has a line through it. That build seems to take a long time to boot compared to the first build and probably because it has way too much pretty "Sense" clutter and crap that I don't care about.

Based on my phone details below, is there anything I might need to change that could be the cause of these builds being so buggy?

R 2. 15. 50. 14

G 15. 42. 50. 11U

B 3. 14. 04666. 8G

PB81120 SS-B3

SPL-2.10.0000 8G XE

MicroP(LED) 0x05

MicroP(TOUCH) 0x50

Thanks again.

Steve
[Nexus S General] generalagony:
So my main complaint about the nexus 1 was the crazy digitizer. I am sitting here playing pocket legends and all of a sudden my screen starts going crazy just like on the nexus 1. I ran screen test toolkit and on the trace test i got sharp vertical lines that shot out from where my finger was tracing. I did have the phone plugged in at the time and since unplugging it seems to have gone away but the is reason enough to concern. Anyone else had this issue? May just take my phone back and get a replacement just in case.

Update: as much as I feel like a bonehead for admitting this I found the culprit. Apparently the charger i was using is not playing nice with the nexus s. It is the same charger i use for my nexus 1 an apparently it has a different power output that the nexus s doesn't like very much. Hope my mistake will help others.
[Nexus S General] selectormoldy:
I tried charging over USB at a friend's house on his dinosaur iMac, the screen started acting completely screwy as well.
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
this is really an intresting behavior. i didnt know a scren could do such a thing in different charger.. . live and learn
[Nexus S General] Darrien13:
yea, why does this do this? I wonder can it be fixed with software
[Nexus S General] tominater12:
Why would you even try to charge it with something else since a wall charger came with it.
[Nexus S General] gogol:
Because you can charge an Android phone via USB cable?

That's I think an official feature of Android.

And it MUST WORK WELL!

If not, then it is a bug in the software or hardware :(

I read a lot about this reports, anyone post into Google official forum?
[Nexus S General] Darrien13:
it happens when I charge on both
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
i think you need to check other phones. as far as i know charging from usb less amp than the wall. so it shouldnt show any weird calibration issues or flicker. double check man
[Nexus S General] bob.zxr:
Yes, max amp from USB is 0.5A. Typical output for smartphone chargers is 1A. But this shouldnt be a problem, and also less amp means longer batterylife on the long run cause it doesnt stresses battery as much.
[Nexus S General] dinan:
I think it's because the touchscreen on the NS seems to be more sensitive than most phones (I can get it to register input without even touching the screen sometimes) that it gets disrupted by other sources of electrical conductivity... such as the charger. Mine is ok, never really tried with the charger plugged in though. I ran multitouch visible test and I was satisfied with the tracking, it's the same if not better than the Vibrant's, which can handle 5 simultaneous inputs.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheDejos:
I just got a new samsung vibrant and I hate the Stock UI so I wanted to root and drop a mod on it. Rooted no problem then remembered a friend with a Galaxy S phone told me he really loved this one Rom. so I snagged it and flashed it without even thinking about the fact that his phone is a Captivate.

That went awful, screen orientation, home, menu, return buttons were all screwy. But I used ODIN to return to stock as per the Development forum here in XDA. Now however, my phone says ATT World Phone as the first thing during boot sequence. Even putting on a new rom with a custom boot animation doesn't change a thing.

Any suggestions how I might go about fixing this?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
did you ODIN fully? does the bootanimation INCLUDE the ATT world phone part?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Apocalypse:
Helpin another guy with basically the same problem...

read this ..... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=849028 -To understand the basics

and

that... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=848737 - To Get you back to stock..

you probably used AT&T stock file when u Odin'ed....read those (well mostly the bottom one) and it should get u back to T-Mobile stock
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheDejos:
@xrider Can you define fully? I used the Pit file and the Tar file, attached my phone in dl mode. Clicked start and let it go till it rebooted my phone and told me it was done.

@fearless That second link is what I've been working from, I've been using the T959UVJFD.tar

Here's the exact boot up process,

1) ATT World Phone logo

2) Vibrant / Samsung logo

3) T-mobile sound and animation

4) Swirly Galaxy S logo

5) at main locked screen going through media checks and aquiring signal
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Apocalypse:
something in that Captivate ROM must have really screwed up stuff....i'm thinking the playlogos file got tampered with when you flashed that Captivate ROM....but ODIN would've restored it back to normal....i'll do some more searching....
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheDejos:
Thanks, if it helps any, this is the ROM I flashed the first time http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=856877
[Android Software Development] Futur Innovations:
That is the question. I have heard good and bad about "rooting" your phone, but I want to know exactly what rooting is. How do you do it? And what are the pros and cons of rooting your phone. Thanks in advance :)
[Android Software Development] TheMagicalSock:
There is literally no bad. You can root your phone and not modify it from its stock configuration at all, and it enjoy it as you always have.

There are hundreds of threads with this question, so a quick search will yield much more in-depth help than I can offer.

I will say that you don't risk much - bricking is essentially impossible with nearly every rooting method.

Hope that helped.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xOrphenochx:
Hello,

I got rooted and S-OFF and all of that, once I flashed Clockwork's recovery everything appeared to work correctly, but when I got into any of the menus in it all I get is a blank screen. Anyone know why this happens?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] esincho:
Hmmmm, are u using the power button to select? That's going to black the screen. U have to use the track pad to select
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xOrphenochx:
Man that's silly, having used it on the N1 I thought it'd be the same. Thanks!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] esincho:
How u think I knew what u was doing. :-) n1 owner too
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaxBambu:
It happens to me when i switch from 2.5.1.2 back to 3.0.0.6. I normally take out the battery and it boots up just fine.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] rel500:
I believe this belongs in this section because it potentially involves a whole new UI not only for the Vibrant but for Andoid as a whole.. if im mistaken my apologies and please move to the right section..

per AndoidSpin

http://androidspin.com/2010/11/18/full-3d-ui-coming-to-android-sorry-adw-i-might-just-switch/

"We all love eye candy when it comes to how our devices looks and feels when we are using it. HTC Sense UI has been one of the most visually appealing UIs to date in my opinion. Some have loved Motoblur and even Touch Wiz. If none of those appealed to you then you probably moved on to Launcher Pro, ADWLauncher, Home++ or one a few others that do exist. I think any of us with a higher end device are ready to unleash its true graphical power. Why not also make it useful and extremely customizable right?

SPB Mobile Shell 5.0 is on the horizon. If you are unfamiliar with SPB Mobile Shell,then you may not have ever owned a powerful Windows Mobile device. Previous versions of this software were religiously used by users of the HD2. Not only was it a more functional UI for the device but it also solved oodles of freezing and lag issues that people were experiencing.

You may have already seen the demo of the this software. As we all know though, new Android users are added daily and deserve a look into what is coming. Here is a short video of the new SPB Mobile Shell 5.0. I still can’t locate a launch date unfortunately. As soon as I find out I will be sure announce it for everyone. I am really looking forward to this software.

Do you think this will replace your current launcher?"

You can sign up for beta testing here.

http://www.spb.com/beta
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] TheShadowMan:
Already threw my hat (and my Vibrant) into the ring. Looks fairly interesting. Can't wait to see how its features compare to ADW.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] SBboundbRONCOS:
looks cool but no way in hell would i pay freaking 30 bucks for that jesus thats retarded
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] parmijo11:
Thanks for heads up, just signed up for beta. Test yes, buy, no...
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] 12paq:
Besides the childish references to unfortunate birth defects and Christian divinity; $30. 00 is crazy high for this platform. For $3.99 I get launcher pro, for $1 got SwiftKey after beta. I used SBP on PPC to Win Mo. It was very good.

This better be better than God.

Sent from my SGH-T959 flying with Axura 2.2 & Voodoo 5 JK6 via the XDA App all of which were free.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] chucky80:
That is how much I paid for mine when I had windows mobile phone. For their work, it is worth it. They take their time to design the best mobile UI in my opinion. Do we say futuristic??? I love this new UI, can't wait for it.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] scrizz:
this UI has always been this price.

I remember back in WinMo.

one of the highest selling apps too.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] blizzard1017:
I would love to test this out, my main concern on it is battery life. I am currently going through issues with Launcher Pro sucking the life out of my phone. I can only imagine what this will do.

Oh and my employee just ask me what was wrong cause I had tears in my eyes. I was laughing so hard at:
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] rel500:
lol agreed..
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dnahughes:
I had spb 3.5 on my touch pro 2 and loved it can't wait for 5.0 for android I'm all over it me want it lol
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Cezar`:
I'm in :) the price is not so high
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Holeblocker:
Where does it mention price?

SPB 3.5 is listed at $29.95

I don't think this app would go anywhere if they intend to charge more than $4
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] m00nshake:
So finaly got to try the beta SPB Mobile Shell and it looks very very cool. It's going to get some getting used to, as it's quite different from any other launcher... I'm going to test it in more detail tomorrow morning and then email SPB my feedback!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] joe.kerwin:
Nice, they deleted my thread ha, spb complained apparently. It is really nice just needs to be sped up and hog less memory imo
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Sdobron:
Looks cool, but I wouldn't pay more than ten dollars for it.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Ultraman666:
I had this on my older phones it was a great UI but still not worth the cash, signed up for the beta just to see how nice it is on Andriod
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] m00nshake:
Ok so I've been running SPB mobile shell over nero3 with black froyo and I like it very much. It'd be nice to discuss it more here with other beta testers but I'm not sure how the devs would take to that so I won't. But I will say that this a great home alt and I am excited to partake in beta testing it.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jdanisevich:
I didn't make the cut for the beta apparently. But to be honest, I'm not all that worried about it if it's gonna cost anywhere near $30. That's the biggest mistake they'll make. Not only will their sales be far lower than they could be, but they could pack that .apk full of DRM and defensive measures but it would be cracked in no time. Then everyone will just download it for free. You gotta be realistic in this market, I don't care how innovative your UI is.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] rel500:
Very well said sir. Btw I didn't make the cut either :-\
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] m00nshake:
It's a shame that you didn't get an invite, hopefully the devs monitor xda and will send you a PM, who knows, it's possible. Regarding the price, my hope is that they carefully consider this prior to a public release, as I honestly believe this could be an extremely popular alternate home app if the price is right.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jdanisevich:
My thoughts exactly. I'd honestly be happy to test it, it looks pretty sexy from what I've seen. But like you said, my only beef would probably be the price tag. Like you said, I hope they really put some consideration into it.