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[Nexus S General] ballenone:
well ive come from owning more then my share of iphones and i remember when the first one came out i was wowed just cause they were doing something very different and to be honest it was apple .. as time moved on and every generation later i just kept feeling like it was the same thing wrapped in a new box with a few new features nothing mind blowing hardware wise ..i like the fact they pushed things into the main stream like the full touch screen (not saying they were first but they did make everybody take notice and made it work well)

very nice design very slim nice battery life etc

i still never felt like it was mine like i could only do so much to it personalization wise without jail breaking etc so i started to feel like i was like everybody else and had to wait for a year to get maybe something new better hardware, faster processor,new look, software update to get mms or things that other phones had already

when i got my g1 i wasn't blown away but i wasn't expecting to be but what i did get was the sense that this was my phone to do with as i pleased add what i wanted customized as i saw fit sure it was not the fastest thing on the block but i was more then impressed by the fact i could make it my own and i also saw the potential it could have as a os ..now as things progressed nexus one blew my mind (still does ) cause they pushed things forward hardware wise and software wise and set a standard and it was awesome .super sexy design ,slim nice screen etc ..

my point is that with android there are so many choices in all ways carriers manufactures etc and for me that means i really don't have to wait for a year to get a faster processor or better hardware slimmer design bigger screen smaller screen etc because there is so much choice and not just one with apple i feel like i can have more when i want faster when i want new design when i want etc

as long as my wallet allows me to the choices are there and with apple your stuck with design stuck with screen size and stuck with them telling you what they think you need and what is good for you and again with android its not that way so many choices so many designs so many ways to have what you might want ..but again i'm not saying android is the end all be all and i'm not knocking the iphone just for me i see it a little differently (maybe i'm a nerd or geeky or whatever but i love it) and i just love the fact the choices are there i don't always have to be behind the curve if i don't want and if i want new cutting edge hardware i might only have to wait a few months not a year ..

again sorry to have rambled on as i'm sure people will probably rip me for something but again im not very good at getting my thoughts on paper as i am speaking them but i think this android community is awesome and all the help i have recieved in learning all about android from way back till know is great ..

now i still have my g1 ,nexus one evo 4g and my wonderful nexus s ended up having to sleep on couch for the last one but hey i got to sleep next to my nexus s so it was a private moment :D
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
I am the OP who started this thread, and I was not trying to bash Apple, just thinking out loud, and being realistic. If your in the market for a new phone today, and your current phone is from 2009 or older, I think the Nexus-S is hands down the best smart phone on the market right now. Sure next month it might be outdated, but for Christmas time 2010, this is the top phone.

To me the iPhone 4 feels like the same ol, been there done that already. It is extremely simple, gives you screen full of app icons, and the very basics of a smart phone. But it does so in an excellent and quick way, and being very fast and stable. Just to me, it is way too boring now. When it was new in 2007, it was the StarTrek phone from the future, now, not so much.

I think if you currently have a newer phone from this year and willing to wait, then you should truly wait all the way till Summer. This Summer will be crazy for the smart phone market. I wouldn't be the first to jump on the dual core bandwagon right away this Feb/March, wait a bit for them to be really tested and optimized for Android, and the phones released in Summer should be awesome.

- iPhone 5, I am open to maybe getting one, but first they need to finally make some big changes for once. Slightly larger screen, 4" please. Needs widgets already. A solid notification system. And still keep the great battery life.

- EVO-2, due out in June, dual core processors, running Honeycomb.

- HTC; Nexus-Two, next gen Snapdragon w/ 1.2ghz dual core running "Ice cream"

I think any of those above three phones should be very kick ass, when they come out this Summer, I am looking forward to what they offer. Until then this Nexus-S will keep me very happy.
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
I just dont get all the hype for the dual core/2ghz craze. I mean, just think of the battery life on something like that
[Nexus S General] KeithRVA:
I would not send the Nexus S into battle with the iPhone 4, it would get its plastic ass kicked good IMO.
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
blahblahblah
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
From what I have been reading dual core is supposed to be excellent for battery life, once the OS is optimized and designed for them. They run on a smaller core process = requires less energy to operate, and can handle multi-tasking better in the back ground, again helping battery life.
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
That would be nice, i just think they should work on optimizing what they have now before jumping into that.
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
I agree, the design and build quality of the iPhone 4 is an excellent looking, and solid device. But that's it. The Super AMOLED screen and 2.3 Gingerbread are better in my opinion than the "retina" :rolleyes: display and iOS 4.2
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
The day apple announces a 4" retina display iPhone, i will say its better. I would almost bet on it being iPhone 6.
[Nexus S General] KeithRVA:
Don't forget the iphone 4 can replace a digital camera and hd video recorder. Its easy to say 'x' phone is better than iphone 4, but its still the 600lb gorilla that is tough to beat, much less "blow away".
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
i wouldnt say it could replace a HD camcorder at all. It records on 720p and its pretty decent, but not better than a dedicated 720p/1080p camcorder. I will admit its better than the Nexus S in that regard.
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
I am mature. You are not. You are just a pissed off kid Because i dont agree with u on whatever you think in your stupid head between 2 phones. And u cant swallow the fact that people think differntly than each other. You are one of those ****lets who say something then wants everyone to agree with him as if wha you said is a fact. A typical moron with small fanboyish mind. I bet u were one of those kids who used to fight at school which is better sonic or mario.

And i am goin to call u names thar you deserve if being polite has no meaning here and everyone can i insult the other like we are in a zoo. At least i called you a tard. And i didnt lie. U r a tard. Now piss off kido
[Nexus S General] KeithRVA:
Listen Android Fanboy, I'm tired of arguing with you about this, iPhone 4 rules, end of discussion. You are DOA and holding it wrong!
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
Looooooooooool @ holding it wrong. Wtf was the idiot thinking when he sait it looooool
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
lol i could really care less to be honest. I've had an iPhone since 07 like i said before, i like them both.

1.) It's a GD phone. let it go. people will like what they like.

2.) You think an iPhone 4 takes just as good of a video as a real HD camcorder? Are you nuts? I will agree with you wholehearted that the iPhone has a better camera than all of the android handsets i've seen, but to go against a real HD camcorder? get real.

3.) Its a plastic housing, agreed. please let me know how you feel when you actually have the device in your hands.
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
1- the problem is, some of those people here are sad ****s really. they just bought the new phone and they think they have the best device . kinda funny really. and how dare i say what i think ? this is the nexus s board. everyone must love the device and its the numbaaaa 1 phoneeee. what a waste of brain cells " not you dude who i am quoting. i am talking in general"

2- yeah i agree with you. i dont know what the dude is smoking. must be another iphone fanboy just like those android fanboys here. my brother has a desire HD and we took the same shot. we diddnt put them in a pc to compare but from looking at them in our phones side by side. the desire HD had a better pic. . i dont know if i put them on pc will be any different. but who knows.

3- not all plastic phones are bad. i really love the experia x10 look. the white one specially

i think its the sexist looking device . and its plastic. its just the nexus s from the outside look alot like like galaxy S. why they didnt change it to something better . we all can agree that the look of nexus S isnt all that. hell imo i think the nexus 1 look better. which is kinda disspointing
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
Check out this iPhone site comparing the Nexus-S, read the comments at the bottom, wow;

http://www.tipb.com/2010/12/16/iphone-4-nexus-photos/

That is what pisses me off, are these rabid iPhone fans, that treat it like a religion, and no other phone can match their Godly device. I appreciate both, just think iOS4.0 is more of the same and getting stale to me, and rather boring. I think Android is on the upswing, 2.3 Gingerbread is very nice, and the Honeycomb and Ice Cream updates should really knock a home run with Android.

But I am open to another iPhone myself, if they really make some much needed changes. Larger screen is a must, widgets are a must, and notification system is a must. If they do all three of those, I will seriously look at an iPhone again, this Summer. But if they just make minor bull **** updates, with no real changes, then no thank you, I stick with Android.

If the Nexus-S came in a metal solid body, instead of the plastic, would that shut up some of these iPhone sheep ?
[Nexus S General] KeithRVA:
1. Uh, cool.

2. My iPod Touch replaced my bulky ass camcorder just fine.

3. Played with demo at Best Buy, it was ok, 7/10 awesomeness.
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
Well, just by looking at this Nexus S board, people will be a little biased towards the Nexus S. Can you even imagine the wrath a Nexus S owner would get if they went on modmyi and claimed that their device was superior?
[Nexus S General] philliman:
Lol. From 3gs to Vibrant was a great move for ME. I had all the fly **** for iphone too. Jailbroken cydia, icy and installous. Pages swiped up n down left and right as well as an infinite dock. My opinion is just that the Android OS is easier to customize right out the box. I can bluetooth apps (apks) to other android users. Access my files and best of all DRAG N DROP..... NO ITUNES. Sums it up to what I've read a few times.... to each their own.

Obsidaian V3 + Black Froyo Theme + 4G icon w/ circle BatMod using => Tapatalk App!
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
Ah. it's okay.
[Nexus S General] KeithRVA:
Yeah, jailbreaking is a *****, and cydia is sloooow. But ios is highly tweakable. Ah the good old days of Winterboard.
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
i think he will be eaten alive lol

i didnt claim anything though. i actually like the nexus S. i love android. i think the Desire HD is a better phone because of the extra ram and bigger screen and it doest feel like a toy . while the nexus S better screen even tho its smaller with a better gpu for games. smoother etc.

all in all. i think both DHD and nexus S will be crushed in Jan/Feb when LG star hits the US market. duel core , super amolid screen. tegra 2 for the gpu as well.. this thing will be a killer. hell i just read recently that tegra 2 will be standard at google. i think i did read ityesterday on endgadget

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[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
If your going to upgrade your phone, be best to wait until Summer. Don't be the first on the dual core bandwagon this Feb/March, let them iron out the bugs first, and get the OS really optimized and stable with it.

Come June/July we should have some truly kick ass next gen phones out, running the latest OS. iPhone 5...EVO-2...Nexus-Two...Droid-3.0

I would only go for one of those four.
[Nexus S General] KeithRVA:
Yeah, looking forward to iOS 5, rumor is that it will have radial menus...tap an item and options will appear around the item in a circular configuration...spin the wheel...sounds very cool.

I know, this is an android forum, sawweee
[Nexus S General] bcl0328:
isnt the lg star just coming out in korea, i heard it wont be in the US til Q4 2011
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
But the major UI overhaul coming with the next big Android OS update is supposed to be amazing I hear. They really want to shake things up with the way Android looks to the average user, should be interesting.

This Summer, will be the fight of the century; iPhone 5 vs. Nexus-3.0. I would not buy a new phone until these two top dogs are released, and decide from there.
[Nexus S General] philliman:
Ahhh yesssss winterboard! Lol don't miss it at all!! I just miss having the iphone when it was hot! Most ppl don't think for themselves anyways. They'll go off of discussions like thee above lmao

Obsidaian V3 + Black Froyo Theme + 4G icon w/ circle BatMod using => Tapatalk App!
[Nexus S General] deeren:
Nexus two???? Aren't Google releasing one phone a year?
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
No, a Google developer, made some unofficial announcement recently, saying something along the lines of, the "Nexus" name brand will continue on, not just with phones, but tablets too. That when there is a significant Android OS update, there be a Nexus device, to go along with that.

Rumor is, the HTC or Motorola Tablet due out in Spring, will carry the Nexus name. Not sure which one.

And that HTC and Motorola, are both fighting it out to build the next Nexus phone, rumors suggest it will be the major update 3.0 "ice cream" release. I think that has a summer time release to compete side by side against iPhone 5.0, will be named Nexus-3.0
[Nexus S General] doodads:
I'm going from an iPhone 4 to a Nexus because I moved to a carrier in Canada that doesn't support the iPhone and I'm pretty upset about it. It's completely unmatched when it comes to the experience it's trying to offer, but at the same time I'm totally excited for this different experience.

It's apples and oranges at this point.
[Nexus S General] dinan:
Kind of off topic but you wouldn't happen to be using Wind would you? I'm using Wind in Toronto and for some reason it doesn't pick up the network name like "Wind HOME", it just says 302490, which is the same... but just the numerical code.
[Nexus S General] doodads:
Heh yeah I am going to Wind, 40 dollars unlimited voice/text/data, I'd give up anything for that.

But yeah I'm not sure about your problem, getting my phone sometime this week! But I've read someone having a similar problem, probably just an optimization problem, but I've read that it doesn't say anything, and you say it shows a number...hmmmm.
[Nexus S General] nohcho:
I actually like iphone 4 alot. It is an exellent phone. That being said, my biggest pet peeve with iOS is that you cannot turn of animations and transitions. I for one do not care one tiny bit about eye candy and would love to be able to turn the animation off. On android you can do exactly that. That is why my wallet voted for android.

As far as plastic housing of nexus s goes, can Samsung use better materials? Probably. I choose to have plastic back cover phone. When I drop that phone it is not gonna break to pieces because it was made out of glass. Also, slide on cases allegedly would cause that back of the phone which was made out of glass to scratch and possibly break.

Plastic may not give a "good feeling" phone or the one that doesn't feel like a "toy". Last time I checked people bought phones for communication purposes and not because of the materials it was made out of.
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
well that would be a slap in the ****! If they are doing this "Nexus" brand at least have it last as long as the iPhone intervals.
[Nexus S General] nikmash232:
I heard the camera isn't good though. Is this true? I have a samsung vibrant currently and I'm thinking of getting the Nexus S or the Mytouch 4g.
[Nexus S General] robstunner:
Its good it just doesn't have 720p (yet)
[Nexus S General] Michael.B.:
Got a link?
[Nexus S General] luis86dr:
Not for nothing android is fairly newer compared to apple. A lot newer actually. And as far as android has come in the time it has. I think its doing very well for itself. Iphone 4 is nice, just not that nice. You get all the oooo's and the ahhh's because its a apple product. But when it comes down to hardware and user friendlyness. Hands down android takes the cake.

[G2/HTC Vision]
[Nexus S General] dinan:
Yea I just switched to that plan... awesome =)

Wonder if I'm the first here to have a NS lol... yea I don't really care about the it showing the number but it would be nice if it fixed... oh well.
[Nexus S General] meetagrawal:
You must have a different definition of "user friendlyness" if you think Android is better than iOS in that regard.
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
Well the iOS is brain dead easy to use. It is just a screen full of app icons, nothing more. Just turn the screen on, and click your app, that's it. Very boring, but very stable and fast.

That was cool in 2007, now, not so much.
[Nexus S General] meetagrawal:
Most people need/want that simplicity. It works extremely well for what it does. Not everyone needs their phones to do anything and everything in the world.

After having an iPhone for the last 2+ years and now using the Nexus S, I just can't get used to having menus. The way iOS flows is amazing. I'm sure Apple will come out with some changes in UI that will definitely be creative and clever. It's good for everyone that they do. I'm still hoping Android gets better quality apps, but I'm not holding my breath.
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
Good points. But for me being on Android for awhile now, not having a menu, feels like the phone is a beta, or broken to me, like it's missing very important features. The iOS just feels dated to me after using 2.2 and 2.3 Android.

I am not trying to bash Apple. Before I bought my Nexus-S, I was 75% for sure thought I was going to the iPhone 4. Wanted a good quality smart phone with a killer long battery, my EVO sucked balls to be used a whole day = no way.

My Brother and Sister both have the iPhone 4, and they were coming over for a party last week, so I said ok, will see this iPhone 4 king, and get some real time to explore and play with it. Well after 2min I was convinced, no thanks.

A little history, I did own the iPhone 3G, bought it brand new 2-1/2 years ago, and it was a huge upgrade to my Blackberry at the time. Really liked the iPhone, but ATT for me was spotty with lots of dropped calls back then, and it was by far 50% more expensive at the time per month. So I dumped it for a another Blackberry on T-Mobile, and then got the MyTouch 3G as soon as that came out, I hated that phone, because it felt like a wannabe iPhone, but a very ****ty and poor version of it. Then went to the Nexus-One, and fell in love with Android, and then the EVO, and loved the Droid OS even more :)

But the EVO had crap battery life, so I was looking at a iPhone 4, but planned to jailbreak her to make it customizable and not like every other Walmart clerk who all own iPhone's now. But the iOS 4.2 did not feel light years ahead of my old 3G, the basic menu's, and very simplistic design was a major turn off, it just felt so plain Jane, with no soul to me. So I went with the N-S, and I am loving it :)

I am open to an iPhone 5 this summer, but they need to do a few things to win me over, again. Make the i5 with a slightly larger screen at 4". Add widgets to the iOS. Add a solid notification system. Do those three things and I will jump back onto Apple
[Nexus S General] vetvito:
I suppose Motorola Nexus Bee, or is the bee just for Honeycomb?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quI2I8wLPdc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus S General] xdahd2:
yes it does
[Nexus S General] jivemaster:
People buy iphones because:

1. They love apple

2. They want what other people have.

3. They want THE fashion accessory.

As far as iOS goes, it is in no way the superior operating system.

Iphone fails in one key area - it's ability as a communication device is flawed. Iphone cannot compete with android on the communication front. On an android phone you can receive and respond to at your leisure many notifications at once, including sms, email, IM, facebook, twitter etc. Notifications on ios as a pop up are completely useless and disappear with a touch, you cannot view them in order, nor can you attend to them in the order you choose. You can't attend to a google talk and expect the session to still be running when you return. You are forced to visit each individual app to attend to each notification. If you have more than one notification, they are often not displayed in succession, so you must visit each app after attending to the first notification. There is no way to attend to a notification later in iOS.

iOS browsing is not superior either. For starters, iOS treats web pages like a giant image. You may have smoother scrolling, but your device is not rendering the web page all at once, rather it gives you bits of tiles which can have delay in their appearance. Zooming in iOS causes re rendering. In addition, there is content on many websites which is off limits for iOS users, and it's too early to say that flash is not needed. Maybe on tomorrows internet, but not today. You can't be without it until all major websites make the switch to html 5.

Furthermore, browsing is crippled on iphone and ipad due to the device's inability to re wrap text in the browser. This is a major inconvenience to the user and requires them to scroll left and right through a page to read the passages of text. I'll take a little stutter over that any day.

Iphone is really the beginners smartphone. You deal with one thing at a time, even with iOS 4 multitasking. Once you realise that the limitations in iOS are forced upon you and that choices elsewhere give you the ability to do anything in any way you want - such as the case in android, it's no wonder power users make the switch.

The one thing android can't compete with iphone in is the gaming front. That is the only thing.

App wise many things that require a separate download on iOS are already built into android. Android gives you choice, and it's a glorious one.
[Nexus S General] booyakasha:
This. My friends who have "upgraded" their iPhones again and again over the past four years are all starting to come up to me asking about Android because they are "getting bored" with their phones. I pretend like I know what they're feeling, then sneak away and flash a new ROM.