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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nocturnalmike:
So its come to my attention after looking at craigslist for a new phone, that people are ripping off the devs hard work HERE and charging 30 dollars to put android on peoples HD2's heres a link to one of them.

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/mob/2123304749.html

I dont know about everyone here, but i think this forum is about sharing info an having fun with it, Not letting these hilljacks make money off what the hard working devs here have put their time an sweat into.. If anyone should be gettin the 30 dollars it should def be the devs here. I just wanted to bring this to everyones attention an feel free to reply to his post an let him know what you think :) Merry christmas everyone
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ZedEx48K:
It happens with everything, it is a natural fact of life, get over it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Antimus:
happens ALL the time, this was going on back when I had my old HTC Trinity and people were selling Dev's Windows Mobile ROMS as their own on places like craigslist.

It's low, it's unfair, it's basically sh*tty, but there's very little we can do about it because so many people do it.

Legally, only Google can do something about it because they're selling a product that isn't theirs. Though then you get into the grey area that they're actually selling a SERVICE not the product...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nocturnalmike:
Im just sayin the devs should get the money here, not some hooker on CL thats all
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fhasovic:
My understanding too...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nocturnalmike:
See thats what i thought too, but looking at all the diff post from the same guy hes doing iphone jailbreaking an unlocking for 10 dollars, i dont see how puttin a folder on a SD card makes a 20 dollar price spike, but thats just me
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qbert3:
Theres a lot of people out there who do not have the time or the brains to read through all the guides on how to get android on your HD2. It took me about 2 days and over 8 hours to figure out how to get android on my HD2.

I contemplated having someone do it for me, but realized, much like building my first PC, it's a better experience to learn it all myself.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DavidMc0:
I agree with Antimus - he's not ripping anyone off.

He's not claiming he made the software, and he's not selling the software.

He's got knowledge and experience that not everyone has, and is offering that as a service to people who want android on their phone, but without the bother of figuring it out themselves.

However, he's only able to do this due to other people's hard work, so it'd be fair of him to donate a bit of his proceeds to those who made it possible for him to offer the service in the first place.

Payments to Devs by people like this could never be enforced, so if you want to make sure the Devs benefit, offer your own service at $25, and give $3 to the devs each time you make a sale :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] drblow:
On the surface this seems like a bit of a ripoff. But the simple fact is that many people do not want to tinker with their phones the way all us forum types do.

I can compare this service to a guy who came round to "fix" my Mum's computer (unfortunately she lives in a different country otherwise I would have done it!). He charged her £20 to do a defrag!!! BUt, as my Mum pointed out, her computer worked better afterwards and she would not have known what to do so she was happy.

Much as it seems like the hard work of our XDA devs is being used as a means for other people to make a bit of cash on the side, I don't think it is quite "ripping them off".
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xma1e:
I tend to agree with the others, the example given is for the service and he's not claiming to be a dev or selling the software itself. The same argument could be applied with a lot of what goes on in this website. A lot of the devs use other peoples work to creat their own builds.

I agree he should at least credit those who put the build together but there is nothing in the advert saying he is not doing that anyway.

People tend to forget that you do need some technical knowledge to use this website, and that there are many people out there that would be willing to pay a "man-with-screwdriver) to just do all the technical stuff for them. Very enterprising.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pReXx:
I wanna see, how she will install android on a HD2 :D

NAND isn't there thought.

Think she will get problems, if costumers restart the phone and see WM booting. :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] PENKO956:
Knowledge is power! No one is ripping no one off. If Dev's didn't want there knowledge passed on they would not post it for public use. Unfortunately some people just don't have the brain capacity to mod there own smart phones. Its the same with computers...U can download win7 from practically anywhere for free online but people would pay some guy (geek) to install it on his pc for money. Or how bout Modding game consoles (xbox, ps3, dsi, psp) for money. Its NOT the product there selling, Its the service and knowledge...dam 30bucks, wonder how much he charges to upgrade kernel :D

Welcome to the free world of internet where knowing makes you MONEY!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MattOG:
If you search, there's one of these posts every month or so.... Read there, find the same conclusions as will be posted here.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dharvey4651:
Moved to Android General Discussion. As long as this discussion stays civil, I'll allow the thread to remain open. If it gets carried away, I'll be forced to close it.

That being said, this is a VERY common problem and yes these guys do tend to get away with it. I will agree though that getting Android up and running was one of the harder things I did when I first started. I was a seasoned ROM "cook" but couldn't for the life of me figure out why Android was so unstable or why it wouldn't boot. Now I'm pretty savvy with it and I can manipulate it to do just about whatever I want. A lot of people don't want to go through what I did and so if they have the money, a lot of them ARE willing to pay. I have a friend who is a truck driver who had a Sprint Touch(Vogue) and he paid me to update it every time he was in town(It was always a "Hey thanks Dan!", it was never asked of him to pay me). I'd put a new ROM on it, restore his contacts, set up his email, etc.. He was a happy guy.

There's a lot of people like this out there. Simply put, there's really no way of stopping people who offer these "services" so it's best left alone. People will take every chance they get to capitalize. It doesn't matter if it's their work or not.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] coolkid893:
ya well if he or she is just putting the android folder on the sd card that is much but if someone that doesnt have a clue on to even turn on there phone that gives them a chance to have android but i am only guessing that its not just that but also a hardslp update rom change an android i mean this all sounds like clock work for us but were geeks to this stuff lol alot of other people are just know they want android an that they have a big screen black thingy phone that has some kind of card that sticks into it lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SMS92:
I think the difference here is that some people are charging for a service. I'd hope these people give some of the money they make from putting Android on random people's phones to the developers here which have shown continued support for these handsets or done something that has helped them along the way. Or better still to a charity of a devs choice!

I think this can easily be confused with, for example, some f**kwit selling pirated DVDs in a car park. The idiot doing this is making money directly off someone elses back, as opposed to say someone who is sharing a movie for free via BitTorrent; where nobody loses out.

Or, for example, someone puts up an outdoor TV aerial for someone so they can get more Freeview TV channels. They didn't help in the production of the shows or the running of the channels but still, they're providing an indirect service and using their time.

I think because, unlike the BBC and ITV who will always keep Mr. TV installer in some kind of business, the devs here do it for nothing so it would be nice if someone DID make money off flashing a phone or installing Android, they'd give something back to the people who did the hard work for their own free persuit of knowledge and sharing!

The best way, though, is to educate people and get them interested in doing this stuff for themselves. So many people want things spoonfed to them (hence why the iPhone is so popular, and hey, this isn't such a bad thing as most people just want a phone that works and to get on with life, we're in the minority!)

I'd not dream of charging someone for this myself. I'd happily sort a friend out with Android for free or better yet tell them about XDA devs. Done it plenty of times already.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dneto:
All the time this happens.

Check this:

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...ds-aplicativos-jogos-android-frete-gratis-_JM (Google Translated PT->EN)

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/...id-15-para-22-galaxy-i7500-suporte-online-_JM (Google Translated PT->EN)

Mercado Livre is a eBay-like website. Yesterday I denounced three offers to "update HD2 with Android"

In both cases, isn´t a simple service, but a copyrighted material, sutffs like iGO GPS Software and others..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] javolin13:
Who cares if people are stupid ennough to not realize how easy it is to do then its their own fault... and its not ripping the devastating off for spending their time to do it for you.... its open just like manufactures charge us for the service to repair a phone with google android if it gets messed up... google doesn't get butthurt about them using their os while doing it and charging for it... its called charging for labor not the platform
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dubbingt:
How exactly are they ripping off the devs? They are not stealing from them at all.

They are charging people money for their TIME to put android on their device. It doesn't matter if they just give people the link to this site. People are busy and not everyone is competent enough to take a risk bricking their own phone doing something they have never done before. And Im sure most people dont have the time to sit down and read through all this content to make sure what they are doing is right.

So stop overreacting to this.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dharvey4651:
OOOOOOOOOK. Time to end this.

Clearly there are different opinions and no single opinion is correct/incorrect in this case. I personally think that it sucks that someone other than the Dev is making money off of something they did for free and shared publicly but at the same time, kudos to the guy who is able to make $20-30 doing a 5 minute job that the guy paying could have done himself for free if he just invested a few hours reading first.

There's no right answer and so this discussion is really only going to end up turning into an argument.

Thread closed.
[Wildfire General] nemuro:
Ok, We get a lot of questions from people that think this phone is preety mighty.

I know some items might disappear or get modified, but in the meantime let's make a list of what the phone can't do:

1. TV-out output

2. Play HD movies

3. Record anything above or equal to 720P

4. Render any 3D game or app ( Some display as software emulation and run very slow and/or without textures )

5. Face/Smile detection

So please, document yourself, and know and admit the limitations of this entry level android phone.
[Wildfire General] Skye Menjou:
Adding:

1. Wash the car.

2. Control the weather.

3. Solve World Hunger.

4. Make Android robot babies

5. Groom your dog.
[Wildfire General] fifarunnerr:
Isn't smile detection related to software? Or can't the CPU render the live view and smile detection at the same time?
[Wildfire General] Goloka:
and why dont work duke nukem 3d installation ????
[Wildfire General] Markerton:
I heard they were bringing in the groom your dog option in Android 3.2 ... Apparently it's being nick-named Android 3.2 WALKIIIIIES!
[Wildfire General] Skye Menjou:
Because the CPU is to slow.It's like trying to run crysis on a Commodore 64.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] taha_e:
I did some modification on Samsung dialpad (portrait only) which you may like it

download the attachment and copy to system/app Dont forget to make a backup before copying

You may download it here
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
Looks pretty to me.

EDIT : Put [MOD] on the Title, shows its a modded keyboard.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] torres76:
Doesn't work just says its not installed on phone. Reinstalled the original and works fine.

Beamed from my sweet Galaxy S with doc's jpo v9 zenkinz oc and R64s theme.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] taha_e:
Did you install application? You should not install it if your phone is rooted you have to copy the file to system/app or do it via adb

this was extracted and modified from jpjpg but should work on all roms
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] torres76:
No I put the apk in system/app as instructed. I'm on jpo.

Beamed from my sweet Galaxy S with doc's jpo v9 zenkinz oc and R64s theme.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] taha_e:
Pull your apk file dialertabactivity.apk from system/app and send to my email taha_e@yahoo.com i will try to modify your file and send back
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] HaTeNL:
Haha, I appreciate your work, but this is the ugliest mod I've ever seen!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] amir_rafie:
Never ,,,

I think it`s very beautiful ,,,,,
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
Everyone to their own.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
Dude, can you make a few modifications? Like 5 to 6. One with this, one with transperent, one with leather finish, one with granite finish, one with smooth skin finish, one with asphalt finish, one with marble finish, one with cloth finish, one with skin finish, one with wood finish, one with green leaves finish, one with a STARING EYE :D:D:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
Each one to their own.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
Why dont you give 10 20 different options here?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Nokia7Vista:
Looks funny,, still I like to change my style frequently, keep it up,,
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
Transperent looks good. I would love one with puffed tits.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] webstar1:
Seriously? LOL
[Defy General] Alessandro71:
how do you set default sms options?

on my other phones (WM6 and symbian) i've always set sms receive confirmation as a default messaging options

so far on the defy i've found only the option to set is on the current message, but not as a default option for all messages
[Wildfire General] tsilalay:
HI everyone i want ask why flash player not playing at wildfire 2.2 updated.Is there any way to watch flash videos from web?
[Wildfire General] Markerton:
There is no Flash update for the HTC Wildfire.

The hardware limitations of the device prevent it from being capable of using Flash.
[Wildfire General] pazirez:
try using Skyfire Web Browser .... it has got build in flash player :P

It's working for me
[Wildfire General] Swapnil.d21:
Tried using skyfire. Works really well for the videos. Thanks!!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsie41:
I have just created myself a new goldcard with the 8gb sd card that i use in my phone instead of having a seperate one. Everything seemed to work as it should when i created it but, is there any way that i can test if it is going to work without actually using it for an ota upgrade??
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] FricoRico:
Hello everyone,

I recently started working at my own custom theme which will be mainly flat black with white icons and android green highlights. I've shown it to a couple of friends and they really quite like it. I've updated every single image in the Framework-res.apk so it really is a complete revamp.

Now, I also want to edit some of the applications that I installed to match the theming (for example Handcent SMS and Winamp). I managed to pull the apk files from my phone, decompile them, edit the images and rebuilding them. But I can't seem to manage to push them back to my phone with succes because they get "uninstalled" when I push the files back to overwrite the originals (they are removed from the app drawer).

I wonder if anyone of you knows why and if it's solveable, I really like Winamp and Handcent SMS.

Cheers in advance!
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] chiefy009:
Do you resign the app ?? use apk manager ??

I am not that clever to do that stuff, but it sounds like when you mod widget locker and you dont sign the apk file, if i am completely wrong sorry just trying to help
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] FricoRico:
I did not resign the app, I didn't even know such thing excisted. I'm not that smart myself, I'm just a stupid designer knowing how to photoshop really well :P But other than that I just followed some tutorials.

If you could explain to me how to resign an app that would be of great help. Thanks!
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] chiefy009:
Search for widget locker mods and in that post at the top there is a piece of kit called apk manager, follow the instructions and it will resign your apk and allow it to be used

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=825553

thats the link with the apk manager in the thread
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] FricoRico:
Yup it seems it worked guys. APK Manager is awesome, makes it all so much easier and faster :)

Thanks for helping me out!
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] chiefy009:
Pleasure share your work once complete?

sent from my commodore 64
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] FricoRico:
You'll be the first one to know when the theme is finished. I'm making quick progress now. I'm gonna edit some more apps that I frequently use. Winamp is almost fully customized. I'm not quite sure how to pack everything up into an easy installer for you guys to use. But by that time I will ask for help again, I'm sure there will be loads of people who will teach me how to do that when they see the final product.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] chiefy009:
I will always help where I can with what little I know or St least try to point you somewhere, good luck

sent from my commodore 64
[General Questions and Answers] takuhii:
Hi,

Is anyone running Darktremor Apps2SD on the Elelinux Custom Froyo 2.2 Stock Rom.

I can't seem to get it to go, it just ballses my phone (HTC Hero GSM) up.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Darren
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Feelers:
Hi guys,

My flatmate's phone is an Xperia X10a on 3 mobile. When they bought it the shop person said to upgrade (it was 1.6 so no kidding!!). I told my flatmate I'd sort it for them (I'm keen to push the android front!), so I downloaded the official update programs (both of them) and found out first hand how useless Sony is, but it said that I already had the newest version; ugggh.

So I came here and installed the generic official 2.1 rom (through the flashing tool here). It's great, everything seemed to work, but the internet doesn't work over 3G. It works fine over the wifi, just not over 3G.

What are my options here? I'd really like to get this sorted! :D

Thanks guys in advance.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mith500:
have you downloaded the APN setting for that network?

if you are not sure ...go to settings, click on sony ericsson and click on settings download
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crowds:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=876878
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Feelers:
Thanks for the quick responses. So after a quick google, that's the access point name, which tells it how to connect specifically to my carriers network?

I had a quick look through the documents, and three mobile.au is in there, so I'm guessing it's fine. My flat mate isn't home right now so I can't attempt it. It seems like it just figures it out itself when you have the list, I'm surprised there isn't some sort of selection process.

Kudos to the both of you. Thanks given. :D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Feelers:
Done and done! All working, and without any preloaded network crapware installed.

Cheers :D:D:D
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] epinion:
Here is the new upcoming feature for angry birds from rovio.

http://www.angrybirdsnest.com/2010/12/angry-birds-mighty-eagle-explained/
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] pngface:
HAHA looks interesting

THanks for that
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] epinion:
Ah angry birds fellow. Hahaha.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] divine3155:
lol. this is funny
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] highaltitude:
kinda dumb but I guess for some its the only way they can get past the level.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Ayush770:
link to get it free http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1727857
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhon1900:
Hey Everyone,

I'm posting here a thread inorder to let you notice for a strange CamCoder behavior.

I want to know if the problem is only at mine device, or others experience the same behavior.

It takes only 45 minutes and you can post here your results if you had the chance to check it.

So here is the strange behavior: Start the CAMCODER, make the "Recording Limit" to No Limit. Start Shooting Video, lay down the device infront of you , or in a "non-static environment"(not shooting the wall. catch people movment).

NOW, after 15 minutes or more of video shooting, STOP the shooting and dont close the camera. Press again to Start another video shooting for 15 minutes or more.

make it like 3 times total.

Now, what happenes is that The videos after the first shooting: the second or third video are not working/ looks like rubbish.

Opinion: The Codec of the Camera is not working well.

It happnes to me when I made a outside(cloudy-sunny day) video shooting of my childs, made three videos of 10 minutes ,12 minutes and 7 minutes in a row. The first video was really good , others were not good. Later, I've started to test the CamCoder and the same behavior repeated itself.

I 'm Sorry but I cant upload the videos cause it's like 200Mb each:(

PLEASE HELP ME

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

P.S.

It happnes with a 1.66 rom, I've updated the rom to 3.14, and still the same behavior repeats.:(
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mally2:
strange,

although i cannot waste 45 minutes of my day testing this out, may i suggest you try this method in Android, IF U have ever ried android before,

best regds
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhon1900:
yeah you are right..45 minutes are thought to be a waste of time, however you can work on yours computer and put the HD2 infront of you, you can do the test at the background with no interfer.

just from time to time click on the "end movie", "start movie".

Hmm, are u talking about the Android Emulator for hd2, "Frio"? or something like that?, if so..hmm I like the phone as it is, windows mobile
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mally2:
ok android on HD2 is not an emulator and its very simple, if u like win mo thyen great, when i have the time i'll try this out and let u know :P
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhon1900:
thanks man,

hey, and if the behavior is exact at your device, you would know what to do in the future. closing the camera from shooting to another will "fix" the behavior.