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[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
If you got your DVP already, can you confirm if your silver-trim lines up properly when closed? Especially near the top left. I haven’t got mines yet but I’ve seen pictures (and videos) where the upper left silver-trim is offset to the right by 1mm. It looks ugly that the silver trim is not streamlined. I’ve attached a picture.

Not a lot of people will notice it, but someone like me, who’s paying 500$ for a phone, would notice it! I’m very meticulous and will notice when lines aren’t straight.

Can anyone else confirm? Thanks
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
Now that you mention it, it is a little off. About one millimeter as you said.
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
no but i notice it loses signal with switching from 3g to edge. Has anyone checked to see if your DVP has the 512 ram. I am not seeing it.
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
just wondering could someone please post there camera settings not the default but any custom ones that youre using.
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
Thank you for confirming that it is a little offset. Not a lot of people will notice it until it's pointed out.

I think all our units sliding mechanism were built in a way that creates some sort of offsetting. I wonder why.

I see it in a lot of youtube videos as well.

Can anyone else confirm this?
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
Audio only comes out of one of the speaker from what I heard. Can anyone confirm? Try plugging up one side and see if you hear a difference.
[Venue Pro General] themadmen:
same thing on my phone, is a little off too.
[Venue Pro General] themadmen:
Same thing on my DVP...:rolleyes:
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
my phone came yesterday. looks really good. I would post some unboxing photo here but i dont know how.

No t-mobile logo on it.

on thing so far is I dont see it has sd card slot, i looked everywhere, there is only a sim card slot, there is no anywhere else place is accessible by end users. there is a small place under the battery head, ony a tiny white plastic and something looks like black square plastic, look like a microSD card, i cannot reach or take it out see it. there is no tape say it will void warrarty.
[Venue Pro General] teels4feels:
My DVP has the same only 225 ram also... :eek:
[Venue Pro General] pessimistic observer:
i think the program is reporting the wrong number
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
nope tried it on both my hd7 and my surround i am getting 512. but interesting face on dells spec page for the dvp ram is not mentioned at all by dell. anyone willing to try this after i fill up the memory past 8gb the device becomes very laggy i mean extremly bad.
[Venue Pro General] teels4feels:
This is BS man. All of you need to check the amount of RAM you have and let us know if you only have 225.

Did they remove the amount from the spec sheet to hide that they downgraded the amount? I doubt Dell will give a definitive answer on this issue as well...
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
My is 225 as well.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Maybe the DVP does only have 256MB of RAM, dont recall the amount of RAM mentioned anywhere by Dell and the reviews dont indicate how they found out the amount onboard.
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
i believe you might be right cause dell never said how much ram it has. but who makes a phone with 225 wtf. mmmm im gonna call and ask
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Well it meets the min specs for WP7, so they havent actually done anything wrong, and all the videos suggest its just as fast as the competition and with minimal programs running in the background it shouldnt be a problem.
[Venue Pro General] murdo119:
It shouldn't be. I heard there is no multi-tasking (yet) on this version of OS windows phone 7.
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
on my hd7 i have 15 live tiles for immedicate contact or work employees and 10 gb of music and film and no lag at all. with the dvp i have the same config and my phone lags my live tiles get stuck. touch becomes unresponsive.
[Venue Pro General] murdo119:
That doesn't sound right. Maybe you should try a hard reset (fresh start). Do you think that maybe Venue Pro is using a lower class micro sd card than the HD7? I don't think a lot of users have encountered that same problem as yours.
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
i think you're right about this one.

I tried playing a video and i noticed that the speaker right below the search button is a lot louder than the one on the left side.

But the phone is still pretty darn loud. It's probably the loudest speakers on any phone I've encountered lol
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
I cant locate sd card slot, can anybody post a picture where it located ?
[Venue Pro General] teels4feels:
Exactly. With a possible multi task update coming, and only having 256 mb, I forsee this being a huge problem.

I'll try to fill up my full 16gb tonight and report back the responsiveness...

If it becomes laggy and unusable, this baby is going back to Dell.
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
Who the hell makes a phone with only 256 megabytes of ram nowadays... This is bull. When multitasking does eventually come I doubt the performance will be very good... Even right now, I get constant lock ups and moments of lag. This is not the super phone I thought it was going to be...

After waiting so long for my Venue Pro I can't believe I'm considering sending it back...
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
thats exactly what i am thinking. live tiles use ram. background apps use ram. multitasking will use ram. unless the phone has 512 ram and the rest is unaccessible at the moment. but having 225 is a huge huge problem. my live tiles just froze for 5 seconds. thats a major issue
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Filling up the storage should not impact programs running or have any effect on responsiveness, the storage only acts as a repository for the program files, nothing is running in storage. Only programs loaded into RAM will have any effect on how the system responds and even the live tiles are not running in the background, they are using push notifications so this also shouldnt be a factor in how the device responds. I think its been established that only the MS programs run in the background fully. As suggested, I would try a hard reset and see what happens,
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
Rebump. Anyone else?
[Venue Pro General] Ganondolf:
play.com (the biggest online electronics retailer in the uk) has it listed with 512mb of ram.

a company like play.com would get the specs from dell themselves so i assume dell has told them that there will be 512mb of ram in the DVP (in the uk).

seems strange that dell would put only 256mb when everyone else has put 512mb and they have 512mb of ram in the venue (andriod version) and the streak.
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
no. mine is same look on both side.
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
you have one dvp. Ihave 3. I am telling you hard reset all of them already and still lag on all 3. So tell me please the odds of getting 3 bad devices. Just try it yourself pin a few contacts to the main screen at least 10 with your email and everything and load up lots of music and tell me what you have please
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
it could be another mistake by dell. Maybe they locked up the other 256 mb or ram who knows.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Ha, still havent got mine! Just going on how the basic principle of how RAM is used, only running programs will have an effect on performance, amount of storage used should not AFAIK. Will hopefully be able to test today if its delivered.
[Venue Pro General] Ganondolf:
i have a bad feeling they ran out of 512mb chips with all the faulty ones and decided to use 256mb of ram to get the orders delivered before christmas thinking no one will notice or something like that.

without that app no one would be the wiser.
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
lol we should know principles dont apply to dell. I agree with what youre saying but thats the only logic i can come up with at the moment my hd7 has 512 and i have no issues same config same amount of music. No lag but all 3 dvp are lagging only difference is the amount of ram and dell. So idk.
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
well dell doesnt have the ram on thier spec sheet. But alot of other places are saying 512. And also the dell venue android version has 512. So
[Venue Pro General] Ganondolf:
could be using ram catching the images etc so that it displays superfast, i get a similar problem on my x1 with the spb shell catching images etc and using ram like that.

also could be as the sd card fills up that it getting slower as it has to find the right file/image between all the files (at bit like a pc slows down when you fill over 80% of the harddrive).

might be nothing like that but just a thought.
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
i believe you could be exactly right. But what idiot doesnt bring 512 to the table.
[Venue Pro General] Ganondolf:
this does worry me as i was going to buy a dvp in january when its released. i did not mind some of the other problems (eg, not the best camera) but this seems that it could cause problems when updates come out and i wanted the phone to last about 2 years like my xperia x1 has (my x1 has 256mb of ram and i bought that 2years and 1 month ago).
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
yeah mine only has 225ram as well according to the app...
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
andfrom testing on other phones it displays the correct info. So idk dell what a let down.
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
I have that problem as well I was looking at wtf

I also have another issue

wifi when on and the screen goes idle, the screen will not turn back on after a hard reset and battery pull

I will get it exchanged later on probably in january
[Venue Pro General] BISDAKinLA:
this is not good news to me. i was so excited to get mine today and now this comes out. hope this gets resolve somehow. :(
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
How the hell is this supposed to get resolved... Unless Dell decides to lose millions of dollars taking back a product and adding in more memory for something that they were never really clear on in the first place.
[Venue Pro General] cdgoin:
I have noted low speed and apparent weak signal on my DVP.

Changed SIM Cards and it has seemed to help a LOT..

See Sig.. admittedly it was within a few hundred yards of a TMo HSPDA+ tower.. but 32+ MB is awesome.. ! And I should mention I rean the test at 7MB 5MB and 3MB and it averaged over 20MB the 32MB was on the 7MB test..
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
I called Dell earlier to activate my new SIM card and the guy told me to wait 2-3hrs for it to activate, but it's been half a day now and the sim is still not working.

So right now I'm using my old one from my G1 phone and it works still.

Is there any advantage on using the newer SIM as opposed to the older SIM card?
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
no that sim that came with the phone means nothing. its just a way for dell to get thier commission from tmobile for signing you with a contract. i am still using my old sim from my g2 and i switch all the time
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
great to know! thanks!
[Venue Pro General] Poopants:
Mine was delivered today. I just placed a few calls and the other person says I am loud and clear. Though in my ear it sounds a little clippy, like too loud. Probably if I reduce the volume a bit it will be better. The phone feels very solid and well built.

My T-Mobile SIM card was in the box, but there was no info in there about how to activate the phone. The Dell sales rep (I placed my order via phone) told me that the box would contain my new phone number, and presumably setup instructions. But there were none. So, I called T-Mobile and their rep couldn't see which plan I had selected. She had to look up my SS# and SIM card to find me in the system. Then she assigned me my new phone number and my phone started working immediately.

Fortunately the battery was shipped to me with some charge in it...
[Venue Pro General] cdgoin:
I used the old sim from my Dash 3G.. no problems just seemed to have issues with low signal strength. The new card should really make no difference.. I will admit I did not try a speed test before I switched cards at the store. BUt I did get noticably great DL speeds with the new card.

I should also mention, I signed up for a new line, that I have no plans on needing now..

So... I never used the card that came with it deliberatly.. and T-mobile has no signs that I have a new line or have signed up for one.

Until they do I will play stupid :)
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
hahah i am with you i am also playing stupid. and if it doesnt show up ill use the extra line to get me a discounted nexus S.
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
so did they find your number or did they give you a new number. cause when they ask for social it seems more like assigning you a number.
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
This person also has it on their DVP.

Can anyone else confirm this on yours?
[Venue Pro General] ComCypher:
Yep it looks like they are all like that. For that matter the bottom right corner on my unit also juts out a bit. I would have never noticed it on my own but I'm afraid now I'm going be obsessive over it :p.
[Venue Pro General] Damionix:
For sale : One day used

Ok, so here is my dilemma. I guess I should have read more before buying this phone, but I guess some things you just learn with time.

I LOVE this phone , but due to t-mobile's stupid restrictions I would have to return it. I would rather sell it than wait days for Dell to refund me my money.

I bought the 16GB version off contract and have the receipts and everything it came with.

Everything is still wrapped up and never opened.

The only thing that was removed was the phone and battery. The Keyboard is still covered in plastic.

Now my story: I bought the phone because I was planning to give WP7 a try with the most anticipated phone of the year. And when I had it, I was going to use the line as my main buisness line with my Google Voice. Come to find out, I cannot foward my voicemail to google voice because Flexpay or Even More PLus accounts have that disabled. I called Technical support and begged , they refused. So, at this point the phone has no use to me and I don't want a 2 year contract. I Know it is crazy to sell a phone for something that little. But I have 2 phones on my google voice, and when it forards the voicemail from my first phone, it rings my Dell Venue Pro phone instead of going to voicemail,hence a loop. And I do not want T-Mobile handling my VM. I want both numbers to be independent of each other.

Not to bore anyone.

I am selling the phone Brand New as it came. All I Want is the $499 I paid for it, I don't care for the tax. You pay for the shipping, or if you are nice :-) I Will pay for it ground Free.

For those in Houston, TX or Katy, TX you can meet me and pick it up.

Please text or PM me. 832-413-3951. First come, First Serve.

Or let me know what you think.

Thanks.

Damion
[Venue Pro General] ft55555:
Actually, that doesn't meet the minimum specs. The minimum is 256MB. 225MB is less than 87% of the minimum. This should be grounds for returning the phone. F*cking Dell! They can't do anything right!
[Venue Pro General] bernaserra:
Yea I have found myself annoyed and disappointed from the very start of dealing with dell to the very end. I love this phone but it may have to go back....
[Venue Pro General] jokka81:
RAM verification

I decided to ask dell what was the RAM specs for the device because I have experienced some lag and freeze. The Tech support reps response:

8:25:38 AM	System	System

You are now being connected to an agent. Thank you for using Dell Chat

8:25:38 AM	System	System

Connected with PAN_Jonathan_222733

8:25:48 AM	Agent	PAN_Jonathan_222733

Thank you for contacting Dell Technical Support for equipment under warranty Latin America and the Caribbean. First of all let me extend a warm greeting on this server and also wish him success in their daily work, my name is Jonathan, As I can assist you in today?

8:26:27 AM	Customer

Hello,

8:27:09 AM	Customer

I just received the Venue Pro and experienced some lag. What are the RAM specs for this device?

8:28:28 AM	Agent	PAN_Jonathan_222733

with lots of help with this problem, could you please tell me your name, complete address and can provide your (Service Tag) or (express code) to locate your information.

8:29:39 AM	Customer

I don't have any of that information right now. I just wanted to know the RAM amount for this device.

8:31:13 AM	Agent	PAN_Jonathan_222733

understand, allow me a moment please and verify

8:32:19 AM	Customer

Thank you

8:34:53 AM	Agent	PAN_Jonathan_222733

thanks for waiting, checking the specification of RAM, 16 GB appears

8:36:00 AM	Customer

16GB is the memory. RAM should be around 512MB

8:42:16 AM	Customer

Have you located this spec?

8:44:18 AM	Agent	PAN_Jonathan_222733

apologize for the delay, I was checking but I only shows the amount of memory 16 GB, these phones do not have RAM, but has a 1Ghz processor

8:45:30 AM	Customer

Thank you,

8:46:03 AM	System	System

PAN_Jonathan_222733 has left this session!

8:46:03 AM	System	System

The session has ended!
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
i confirmed i had this too and my dell venue pro is going back. I should get the new one in 9-14 days apparently...
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
Has any major tech blogs picked up this whole 225mb ram fiasco?

and also anyone else got an email about a class action lawsuit on Dell? I'm not sure if it's legit or not..
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
I'm assuming the 225 figure is available RAM, not total. Unless there is a hardware error 225 would not meet the min spec and MS would not certify the DVP at all.
[Venue Pro General] ComCypher:
On the topic of RAM I'm willing to give Dell the benefit of the doubt for now. Keep in mind that all we have at the moment to determine the size is a 3rd party app which may or may not be working correctly, and who knows if the DVP has some odd configuration that confuses the app.

Also, 225 is not a conventional size for RAM, which I think always needs to be a power of 2. Another way to find out would be to wait for somebody like Engadget to dismantle one and look at the RAM modules directly.
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
yeah I was thinking of this as well, but someone here pointed out that the app used to determine the amount of RAM is accurate when used on other types of phones.
[Venue Pro General] BISDAKinLA:
Received my dvp last night got it activated thru mobile on the phone, got ported my old number from att today. So far so good.
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
When mines arrive it will go straight back after i play with it.
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
How long do I have to return it? I sense lots of new units going back as refurbished units.
[Venue Pro General] RSN5774912:
You guys realize there's probably two 256 chips inside the phone that work in a similar way to DIMM slots on a PC?
[Venue Pro General] Arcarsenal:
Yes.. and according to the API, DeviceExtendedProperties may not accurately reflect physical memory on board. I imagine that app is using this code. If there are indeed two 256 MB chips on board, that may be the case.
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
I still couldnt find sd card slot. can anybody help?

after play with the phone 1 day, I felt windows phone 7 is not perfect. interface is good but not perfect, it is just a new look designed between iphone and froyo. not too many ringtones, and i cannot try out the ringtones, in settings when i pick a ringtone, it does not play but simply disappear. no overall system file manager, task manager, not able to load app like old windows mobile but only through marketplace. not able to customize like old windows mobile.
[Venue Pro General] Arcarsenal:
With the phone lying face down, remove the battery and look in the upper right side of the batter slot. You will see a small rectangle of shiny black tape. Removing this tape will give you access to the microSD slot, but it is not spring assisted so you will need to remove the card carefully with a small screw driver.
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
all I see is a tiny white plastic strip next to a small black square.
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
Is anyone else getting constant lockups and bouts of lag? I find myself having to remove the battery to reboot very often. About 10 times a day.

And before anyone asks, no I did not replace the micro sd card.
[Venue Pro General] bernaserra:
1 lockup the 1st day, nothing since then.
[Venue Pro General] ComCypher:
Yes I did as well initially, it was pretty bad. I decided to do a hard reset (settings->about) and reinstall my apps which thankfully seems to have helped. I've only experienced one lockup since then.
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
How do you get your paid apps back?

Never mind I got it.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
One way is to go the app in Marketplace again and when u try to buy it, it will say 'its already purchased' and allow u to install it. I am sure there is other ways to see a list of paid apps.
[Venue Pro General] ft55555:
Guys, whatever the case is with the RAM, this device is FAST. Anybody experiencing lag must have a defective unit, because mine runs absolutely smooth as butter. *knock on wood* :D
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Anyone having problems waking the phone with the camera button? Very erratic for me, but when phone is on it opens camera 100% of the time so far.
[Venue Pro General] ft55555:
I think the camera button recognizes both a half-press and full-press. It wakes only on a full-press apparently. It seems to be a little tricky to do because the button is so flush with the body of the phone.
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
that's not what we're crying about. It's the fact that it was advertised to have 512mb of RAM and actually the device only have 225mb

and also we're worried that it'll lag in the future once the update brings the multi-task feature.
[Venue Pro General] Wonderstruck80:
Is there anyway for anyone to "officially" confirm how much ram the device has? At this point, it all seems to be speculation.

From my understanding, 512mb of ram was one of the windows phone 7 requirements.
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
it's not a speculation. Go install the "device info" app from the market. It'll show you that the DVP only has 225mb of ram
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
Is there really a maker for 225MB RAM or is it even possible?. Isn't it 256MB, 512MB and so on...

But, who knows Dell has the money to go million miles to find one and screw us up.:rolleyes:
[Venue Pro General] ft55555:
What that app shows, and what it actually is could be two different things.
[Venue Pro General] ft55555:
256MB is the minimum spec for WP7 devices.
[Venue Pro General] ft55555:
This is one of the reasons why the Device Info app is suspect.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kelthizar:
Is there a chance that someone can port this for our DHD ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=874965
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nick_Hrh:
Let's hope so :)

CyanogenMod for Desire HD
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SupremeBeaver:
Yes someone please get this ported. We currently don't have any stock android roms for the DHD.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Walker Street:
If I just wanted close to a stock rom, I'd use CyanogenMod. I think the excitement here is over the possibility of Android 2.3 Gingerbread. The fact it's stock is a bonus though.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
LOL...Thought about you when I saw this possible port :) ...Looks like we need another rom dump though..
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SupremeBeaver:
haha you've heard plenty of that from me.. but the AOSP should be releasing anytime now from Google...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RaiderX303:
im working on a port, no guarantees on when ill release as hardware between DHD and Nexus S is quite different
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Walker Street:
I think it'd be worth buying RaiderX303 a beer if he could pull this off! :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] panyan:
yep, id be in for that :D