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[Desire HD Android Development] prank1:
[HOW TO SAFELY FLASH THE NEW ROM AND BE ABLE TO REVERT BACK]

Currently, the new ROM (1.72.405.3) has a new HBOOT (so you can't install ENG HBOOT S-OFF) and is difficult to root (not as simple as it is with previous ROMs). However, it also has a better radio, and a faster ROM with various bugfixes. This ROM is also Android Froyo v2.21. If you want to try out the new ROM, whilst maintaining the ability to 'revert' back to your older, hackable state then follow the below instructions carefully. Also, do not worry about extracting system.img files and whatnot.

*It is recommended to do a NANDROID BACKUP first

*All RUUs can be obtained from www.xdafil.es/DesireHD/RUU/

*If you don't do steps 1-3 properly and flash the new ROM, you will not be able to revert back

*Radio S-OFF and SuperCID can be obtained by following instructions in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=857537

*Tutorial for flashing RUUs (needed for steps 4 & 8): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=841890

1. Install Radio S-OFF (NOT ENG HBOOT S-OFF) and SuperCID

2. Go to bootloader, then System Info. (If System Info is not there, but you have SHIP S-OFF skip step 3 and proceed to step 4)

3. Make sure CID is 11111111 *AND* the bootloader shows S-OFF. If not, repeat step 1

4. You can now flash the new ROM (1.72.405.3)

5. This will remove ENG HBOOT (if you had it) and ClockworkMod

6. If you did steps 1-3 correctly, your Desire HD should still be S-OFF. Go to bootloader and check. If not, you did not do steps 1-3 correctly and will have to wait for the new HBOOT to be cracked.

When you are done with the new ROM and want to go back, follow the instructions below:

7. Download the HTC RUU 1.32.405.6 of your choice (Since you are SuperCID you can flash any RUU)

8. Flash it to your Desire HD

9. Root your ROM using Visionary, and install ROM Manager and flash ClockworkMod. You can optionally install ENG HBOOT S-OFF now if you like.

If you made a NANDROID Backup, you can restore this now from ClockworkMod
[Desire HD Android Development] prank1:
I can't get this to work myself, unfortunately.
[Desire HD Android Development] dr.m0x:
I have this working. The supplied .zip file does not include Superuser.apk. After following the instructions and then installing Superuser from the market I now have root on this rom.

Look forward to testing it over the next couple of days while I lay in hope of some custom roms based off this version.

EDIT: Superuser keeps force closing :(
[Desire HD Android Development] ninja.rogue:
My bootloader says

ACE PVT ENG S-OFF

HBOOT-0.85 2007 (PD9810000)

and system info says

CID-11111111

Am I good to go or shall I do something else?

Thank you for sharing info.
[Desire HD Android Development] nednapalm:
doh!

being used to the days of winmo I flashed this rom over my cyanogen taking a backup first.

Now I can't revert back to the old stock rom, any way of doing this (easily ish)?
[Desire HD Android Development] pilotghost:
Hi, I'm ENG S-Off but my CID is not 1111111, what's the safest way to do the Super-CID?

I'm stucked abroad using a **** phone cos I can't use another sim in my DHD
[Desire HD Android Development] onesolo:
Also on the same boat...

Anyone??
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
looks like you are, you have superCID.
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
Yeah, so go to Android Revolution HD 1.9.3 and flash buzz 1.1.4 kernel, as I suggested :)
[Desire HD Android Development] piczok:
Thank you very, very much for your support jkoljo.

Finally I've permrooted my machine with upgrading to custom rom.

Summary:

Android version: 2.2.1

Radio: 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2

Kernel: 2.6.32.21-g3d0aaff

Compilation number: 1.72.405.3 CL296490 release-keys

Software number: Android Revolution HD 2.0.44 by mike1986

Browser version: WebKit 3.1

Summarizing tutorial:

All in One tutorial
[Desire HD Android Development] guy27:
Hello, i have desire hd with 1.32.720.5, Can i upgraded to rom RCMixHD v0.5 1.72.405.3 WWE base without any issues?
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
Of course, custom roms are always safe :)
[Desire HD Android Development] guy27:
Do you mean i will not lose root after upgrading?
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
You will not lose root. Custom roms are always pre rooted.

Root = Operating system level permissions, allows you to use root applications.

S-OFF = low-level device permissions, allows you to flash stuff etc.
[Desire HD Android Development] guy27:
Thanks for your help..i flashed this ROM sucessfully and enjoying my phone
[Desire HD Android Development] atre2003:
Can someone tell me, please, how can I debrand my phone? I own a DHD branded Tmobile Germany (Android 2.2.1). I tried this guide (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905003), all went OK, wipe device/factory default, but when I wanted to flash the stock 1.32 PD98IMG.zip "http://www.multiupload.com/Y8IDBBTVR9" from SC Card, it gives me the message "Invalid Operation". Ca anyone help me??? Thanks a lot
[Desire HD Android Development] Blackskull:
Haven't you read the first step in the guide?

So make a Goldcard to debrand your device.
[Desire HD Android Development] atre2003:
I did make a GoldCard and put the zip file on it. I did all the stuff with "adb ... adb shell... etc", the result was OK (#), but after the result #, I rebooted my device in recovery, the red triangle appeared, Vol Up button+Power button, chose wipe device/factory settings, and after tha I selected Flash zip image from SD Card - the result was "Invalid Operation".
[Desire HD Android Development] El_Nino9:
roots only half the story, you have not installed a custom recovery.

please read one of the sticky posts that show you how to install a custom recovery if you have root really. if not follow the root procedure and/or downgrade depending on what software version you are on.

despite all the guides here, my favorite and easy to follow guide:

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_HD:_Full_Update_Guide

g free will make you radio S-Off.

even though that guide says hboot not required/necessary

if you follow instructions properly and do it you'll be fine the hboot is the only risky part in my opinion. but heck thats my opinion only and you are only accountable for your own actions right?

the only reason i advice on hboot is, if you get a brick/semi brick or w.e. if you have an engineering bootloader its possible to do a lot more/revive the phone if not fully bricked.

again with that said the above warnings do apply and even in the cyanogens wiki those warnings do apply
[Desire HD Android Development] warboy85:
wanna seek advice from you guys.

i am currently using CM7 custom rom. if i were to flash back to htc stock rom just like this, will it brick my phone? or there is other steps i need to do.

need you guys help and advice.

thanks!
[Desire HD Android Development] AdamiX:
Hallo!

Can somebody helps me how to root my Desire HD with 1.72.405.3?

I don't upgrade my OS. (HTC does :( )
[Desire HD Android Development] raidy:
i have 1.32.832.6 can i update it is safe?
[Desire HD Android Development] RobbenKlopper:
got my hd 2 days ago. sw 1.75.161.2

any solution? wanna get rid of those vodafone stock apps.. really a lot of junk...
[Desire HD Android Development] descenpet:
downgrade to 1.32 and root it. check the sticky.
[Desire HD Android Development] RobbenKlopper:
Ok. Tanks. Just thought there would've been another way
[Desire HD Android Development] sidney21:
Android beginner

Hi, I am new with Android, having a week old DHD from Vodafone Australia, seeking for any assistance/guide how to get as much as I can out from this device. I'd like to root and do other steps to obtain the latest stable ROM without Google's unwonted stuff. Of course, I don't want to brick my nice new DHD! I need it step by step, as I don't really know, what's going on exactly during all the process yet. I'm finding a bit difficult reading all the Threads an especially I am not sure, what bootloader I have; I have tried pushing every single button when starting up the phone, but nothing has happened... :confused:

Thanx for any help, I'll donate, indeed!
[Desire HD Android Development] gekrem:
Buddie, you need to search a little better. There are heeps of threads about this, however to help you (because I remember back when I first started I found it hard) here are my instructions to you.

First things first.

Step-1 Follow this link to downgrade your phone & create a GoldCard which is required for you to follow step 2: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905003

Step 2 Then follow this link to find out how to flash a ROM and Radio: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=964996

Step 3- Select a ROM from the forums and download on to your SD Card

I recommend when flashing a ROM that you stick with the well known flavours such as CoreDroid, Revolution HD, RCMix HD, LeeDrOid, Spike's ROMS and Cyanogen Mod. You will need to download the ROM of your choice and place it on your SD Card to flash it.

I personally recommend Revolution HD to start of with, as they have an IRC Chat channel and would be more than happy to help you out if you require further help. IMHO you get very good support (especially when starting out) from these guys.

Once you get familiar with flashing etc you can then start moving on to other ROM's to trial...reality is it will come down to your preference what ROM you choose as they are all different in some way.

Android Revolution HD by Mike1986_ http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=840040

In future, make sure you post in the Q&A section as this is not the right place to ask these sorts of questions :)
[Desire HD Android Development] louisvdbos:
my DHD is suddenly apears unrooted and cant startup in bootloader but im running on a custom rom coredroid V6

Can anybody help me i cant flash or update at all

thaks louis
[Desire HD Android Development] btdag:
Doesn't look like the rom is being used by manufacturers in the UK yet, at least Orange UK haven't pushed out this update and i don't think any of the others have either.
[Desire HD Android Development] moorb:
can you help?

i got a question. how do you extract the system.img file from the [0] file in rom package? my problem is, i was to fast with flashing the 1.72.405.33 rom. there was no warning before and now i have a ship s-on rom. desaster! i was lucky to find kama's instruction to root my device again. but the problem is that i can't extract system.img file from [0] file (284mB).

sorry for that noob action. hate myself for doing that:mad:
[Desire HD Android Development] nednapalm:
I'm in the same boat, assume we have to wait for new hboot and new root?
[Desire HD Android Development] moorb:
i dont hope so. someone else say he got luck with flashing back his old radio. after that he got " CID 11111111 " maybe a chance? but i cant read my system informations in bootloader. want to try it later. if something new let me know.
[Desire HD Android Development] coendeurloo:
Hmmm...I kind of wish there was an easy way to undo the clockwork recovery mod but I guess there isn't? And I can't do the OTA update now...kind of sucks...
[Desire HD Android Development] RaiderX303:
i will release a rooted version of this ROM tonite, i am already running it unrooted atm but still have S-OFF so will make a rom flashable with clockwork.
[Desire HD Android Development] coendeurloo:
Great! Does that mean those of us who have the clockwork mod can install the 'OTA' update that way?

I have a vodafone branded rom...can't I just revert to the original bootloader using S-ON (not sure if thats even possible) instead of the S-OFF mod (it made a backup while doing the S-OFF thing...sounds like its 'undo-able')
[Desire HD Android Development] ErMeglio:
Hi to all. I was following these instructions but I had a headache at point 4 where I saw the RUU updater say it would delete everything on the Android phone. I would like not to loose all my data/config/apps on the phone. Is this the right way? If not, there's another way?

Thanks...sorry for the noob question.
[Desire HD Android Development] kingcedz:
If I have root using VISIONary, radio S-off with superCID, and ENG S-Off, but DONOT have clockwork ( I.e. Still on stock recovery).

Can I accept the OTA directly from the phone, instead of using the flashing RUU method described?
[Desire HD Android Development] r_benamin:
Hi,

Is threr any solution to get root an S-OFF on a new DHD alrady with

1.72 rom in it. I got my DHD from A1 in austria but with no brandig and no simlock.

How can i root my DHD, pls help.

Gfree not working

Visionary not working
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
Not yet I'm afraid.
[Desire HD Android Development] ALPTEKİN_:
I installed 1.72 ,I can not root unable to rom plaese help
[Desire HD Android Development] tmh:
Not much you can do right now, than to follow the development here on XDA and hope that the skilled gurus here come up with a fix.
[Desire HD Android Development] liljom:
and how does it work? is it smoother?
[Desire HD Android Development] ALPTEKİN_:
yes,very good, fast and stable but root unable...Some applications do not work.Of course not be established in the rom,damn!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] amm009uk:
Coming from a HD2 background where full accees to Android was builtin I didnt think how much more work this was on DHD. I got 2 DHD's here and first thing was of course a custom ROM. I flashed Sergio's ROM and phone kept rebooting after the white HTC screen. Fortunately the restore from clockworkmod worked. Tried a few times and same thing. Decided to upgrade to 1.72 and start over. LOCKED in now:mad: However, 1.72 does feel better than the 1.32 (2nd phone still stock) and the RAM version on HD2. You really can't fault it. Even heavy games are not far off iPhone gameplay. I'm a junky on flashing but I'm happy to stay with 1.72. Just want root to update the hosts file, remove some unwanted apps, run market Enabler and thats about it really. For those ppl flashing custom 1.72 I'm jealous:)
[Desire HD Android Development] tomtom140:
I have the same situation, stupid me, after the update to 1.72... I have no s-off.

I hope the smart dev's will get a new update for visionary as soon as possible.

PS: seams that many of us have the same issue now...WE NEED HELP!!!!

As soon the new visionary is out, my donation will follow.

Many thanks in advance
[Desire HD Android Development] moorb:
yes you're right,

a lot of people (include) are helpless at time, with the same sh.. of flashing the 1.72.

searching since days for solutions in many different forums. my eyes are burning and i take some aspirin for that headache.

hope for all, we can get a solution in a while, from the marvelous devs.
[Desire HD Android Development] amm009uk:
I've even bought a book for my Android Kindle just to kill time:eek:
[Desire HD Android Development] Lacuna666:
Hello,

Sorry for the noob question, but i was trying to root with the visionary method, and it failed at the temproot part allready, after looking for help, i saw the warning, but too late !!

Is there a way still get rooted with Softwarenr 1.72.405.3 installed ?

HTC DESIRE HD / S-on RL / HBoot 0.85.0018 / Radio 26.04.02.17-M2

Kernel 2.6.32.21-g3d0aaff / Versie 2.2.1 / Softwarenr 1.72.405.3

Not Rooted

Thank you
[Desire HD Android Development] broncogr:
Sorry, not yet. If you had radio S-OFF you could downgrade to Rom to the previous official one and then you could have root again
[Desire HD Android Development] nerval:
do you have a guide on how to do that?
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
You cannot do that now
[Desire HD Android Development] nerval:
he just said if you have radio s-off, you can downgrade, and you say you can't do that yet? so, what is right?
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
IF you have Radio S-OFF, just run the HTC 1.32 RUU and it should work just fine.
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
No he said if you HAD radio S-OFF you can downgrade, Nerval did not have this so he cannot downgrade.

You must have radio S-OFF before the upgrade.
[Desire HD Android Development] tomtom140:
Hi there,

I had radio s-off and try to restore to below version.

"RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed"....the flush process went about 40% through and I got and error that this can't be flushed...so, the bellow explanation is not working for me.

thanks any way for head up on this issue...please keep searching all of you till one of us will find a new tool for a simplified s-off.

PS: I beleve that this issue needs a new thread witch should include just the findings and how to s-off this schrued off radio released from HTS

Regards
[Desire HD Android Development] tready:
I have radio s off I flashed this 1.72 Rom and flashed back to a lower version with no problems
[Desire HD Android Development] tomtom140:
this is really cool than, can you please post step be step how to and give us a link with the right room (EN please).

Many thanks in advance
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
flash the PD98IMG through bootloader
[Desire HD Android Development] tready:
I flashed back to the Rom u said failed for you my gess is you have a bad copy try a new copy of the 12.28b.60.140e 26.03.02.26 Rom and try to reflash it
[Desire HD Android Development] tomtom140:
OK...all done as described and no success: message was "failed Image to old". This was done by: (I flash the PD98IMG through bootloader).

This was also done without success ( 12.28b.60.140e 26.03.02.26 Rom)

So ..at this time the only thing that can be done is to wait for the new visionary tool...hope this will be there soonnnnn!!!

My thanks again for previous suggestions
[Desire HD Android Development] tuan_ok:
I installed 1.72 , can not rooting unable rom , we need help Or go back 1.32
[Desire HD Android Development] r_benamin:
ok devs/crackes/freaks,

pls give us some comments, will 1.72. be ever rootable?

just so much pitty, just got my DHD - and i cant root it!

i know you all have private life, as we all have, BUT pls give us a sign that anyone is working / or will work - on it.

thx in advance!
[Desire HD Android Development] tbalden:
Yes, pocket is itching with some coins for a Root for 1.72 and a new overclock module if the vision_oc.ko won't work... I guess it won't be easy if no other exploit is found.

--- sent from htc z using tapatalk pro
[Desire HD Android Development] cubitusclaudius:
Must be terrible for rooting addicts. I installed the new OTA 1.72 and it really works fine. much better than before. So I'll be patient and wait for a new Visionary man. :cool::(;):cool:
[Desire HD Android Development] r_benamin:
yes, it is in deed TERRIBLE, i gonna sell my two days old DHD and by a new one!- without this new 1.72. and hopefully can flash some costom ROMS with OC, and, .... - i´m loving it! :D
[Desire HD Android Development] walid898:
I don't consider myself like a rooting addict but this update make me feel...:mad:

i should have read the thread before doing it :rolleyes:
[Desire HD Android Development] robE9:
well be carefull that afaik new dhd come with 1.72 already :D
[Desire HD Android Development] r_benamin:
so guys,

I DID IT, i sold my DHD and bought a new ONE with 1.32. on it.

already rooted, Radio S-OFF and ENG S-OFF

NOW downloading some ROMS to test the BEST! :D
[Desire HD Android Development] wojmzy:
Unfortunately new 1.72 installed before ive read this :( Since then im refreshing this thread every hour hoping for some good news

I was wondering if i can contact htc support for downgrading my system and how much would that cost :)
[Desire HD Android Development] walid898:
I'm not sure that the HTC support give you the solution to downgrade your DHD :)
[Desire HD Android Development] dr.m0x:
This thread saddens me. Its not good for the modding community of this handset if every phone sold from here on in is unrootable. We need more people to acquire this phone and root it otherwise there is no future.
[Desire HD Android Development] walid898:
Totally agree with you
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
It will be rooted, the main problem is that a few devs, if any, have the unrootable device. It is hard to test ideas without a device.
[Desire HD Android Development] walid898:
Yes we guess that is not that easy, good luck to them :-)
[Desire HD Android Development] xl VipeR lx:
Feel sorry for you guys. I was about to upgrade till I saw this thread. Leedroid just released v1.3 rom which its running 1.72 rom. And the new radio. upgraded to that instead and I still have s off and root. I'm glad I waited. Don't worry I'm sure devs will crack it
[Desire HD Android Development] SAPPH1RE:
Just receive my new and unbranded desire hd yesterday, had some 2 hours of moments playing with it b4 giving it to my girlfriend to play with for quite sometime.. I'm so itchy here rite now wishing that mine wasn't 1.72.. I can't check the software version rite now, maybe later this evening.. If it is 1.32, then, i'm so lucky.. But if it isn't. then i just have to wait patiently... Thx htc for breaking my childhood dreams of owning a spanking rooted device... (this is my first htc phone, jumping from nokia wagon)..
[Desire HD Android Development] leoking3:
Does this update at least repair anything? The sound problem? Maybe a battery life improvement? Thanks if you know.
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
It has louder sound, better performance in general and camera works better. Battery life and reception are also better with new radio (which is included in OTA/RUU).
[Desire HD Android Development] leoking3:
ok thanks man
[Desire HD Android Development] jean019:
same issue, updated to the official 1.72.405.3 v2.2.1 and now stuck ;(

But, just for information, before in 1.32, the visionary method to Root the phone worked for me, but the S-off shown here not :

[URL="http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=857537"[TOOL][VIDEO] One click Radio S-OFF, SimUnlock (Easy Root Guide)[/URL]
[Desire HD Android Development] richtfunk:
And just to add this information, that with your Radio S-OFF tool I was able to flash the new radio over my 1.32 Rev HD ROM. So at least folks with 1.32 Roms can enjoy the better battery life from the new radio :)
[Desire HD Android Development] kuceens007:
I m in the same boat :D i will wait for god news.i m with you guys :)

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] amm009uk:
There is hope

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10102349&postcount=353
[Desire HD Android Development] kuceens007:
WE are waiting for something about that ... nice news

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] Snake-Plissken:
i was already starting the update, but some how it got stuck, there was just a pda and a "!" in a red triangle, whatever this means, any ideas? after over an half hour without happening anything, i did a softreset and was able to boot back up in my old system, after that i found that thread here.

hope there is root coming.

or is there another way to get louder sounds and all that stuff wich was mentioned here?
[Desire HD Android Development] cubitusclaudius:
sorry. only subscribe

just waiting for the moment it will be possible to root...
[Desire HD Android Development] randomdud:
if you want to have fully functional rooted and unlocked sim phone please read the development thread about S-Off and ENG S-Off also CID-11111111

if you root, after update no more root ;) no S-Off no downgrade..

there is a guide at general forums which would tell you how to flash without losing root. go read there :) pretty troublesome tho.
[Desire HD Android Development] WildsideUK:
What about if the ril-daemon is stopped and then gfree is used? Or does the radio interface layer need to be active to for gfree to communicate to the radio and do it's in memory patch?
[Desire HD Android Development] Snake-Plissken:
but as far as i unterstood, if i have radio s-off i can still downgrade again to 1.32 and root it againg, but if i update to 1.72 i have no root. there are a couple methods how to get "root" but all with a lot of trouble and force closures on su app and so on... so i dont know, i better wait for a "real root" if something is coming...or the best for android 3.0 :) if it ever will show up for the desire hd originally from htc... ;)