yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] stylz3:
Was it the stock HTC battery you had that crapped out or was it an extened one?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheapskate88:
Sounds like someone needs to take a trip to the sprint store. Just tell 'em ms did it.

This is why god invented year warranties.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Beknatok:
Can you reflash a different kernel and recharge?
[EVO 4G Android Development] alekosy:
Thanks again for supporting the thread with SBC kernels :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
For fun I flashed sbc last night and charged overnight with it. Then immediately flashed back to my nandroid with nets 4.3 and am seeing identical battery loss to what I normally see. I'm wondering if it affects how the phone reads discharge voltages on top of topping the battery off. I'm not speaking for or against it but wonder if others see the same results if they do the same. This would indicate it has a minimal affect on charging and actually somehow affects discharge more.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wookiebush:
More investigation is needed. I unplugged the phone and though it said 0% it didn't die. After a few minutes it showed 92% suddenly. It also currently looks to be taking a charge. I will keep you guys updated. Sorry if I jumped the gun.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Your charger probably didnt turn on. Plug in the charger, unplug, then plug it back in.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
How can you test a kernel by charging with it, then rebooting into recovery and performing a nandroid back to different system essentially then rebooting? That makes no sense. The idea of SBC is top off. If you boot into recovery and run slightly intensive tasks, like a nandroid, then I wouldn't be surprised by it using battery..
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cuppeerr:
I live these kernels, but am wondering do they also work on android 2.3?
[EVO 4G Android Development] BrianDigital:
how about you test it as is and not flash back into recovery and restore like that if you are trying to moniter battery life.

Secondly with stock battery you see some added life, but extended batteries are going to be were you see the most change
[EVO 4G Android Development] blackroseMD1:
v7 and v8 have both worked fine for me on Gingerbread roms.

Sent from my CM7 Supersonic 4G
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cjunior:
I'm Wondering the samething :confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
I've ran sbc before. I wanted to test something I hadn't yet. The nandroid didn't drop me from 100% in spare parts it read 4198mv after nandroid restore. So theoretically if the battery is better charged from sbc the remaining 10% from 100 to 90% should have dropped incrementally. Instead it had the sharp drop to 90% normally seen using a non sbc kernel. What I am wondering is if there is more to sbc than just charging. Does it also affect how the phone reads the battery level? If I understood code I would just look.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dreynam2:
is weird after read all this articles of " you shouldnt use SBC kernel", but in my experience i have been using it for 2 moths now and never ever had any issue with my extended battey, in addition my phone battery last longer than before charging it the same amount of time gives me 4 hours more same use. thank you for your hardly work ms79723
[EVO 4G Android Development] islandreamer:
Didn't see this answered yet, if it was nevermind. According to MS it can be used on either.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fgr:
I've been running it without issues also. Great battery life and performance...
[EVO 4G Android Development] SouthernEvo:
I have read of this in another thread but I cant remember where . Anyways it was found out the usb port was failing . Meaning sometimes it would plug in and look like it was charging but then wouldnt . I would check to see if your USB port is loose and not causing the issue .
[EVO 4G Android Development] rushco:
Delete. Found my answer.
[EVO 4G Android Development] str8chillin1805:
KERNELS FAILING TO FLASH. Downloaded the sbc htc and sbc 4.2.2 less havs and both are saying install failed, zip signature verification failed. Anyone have the working ones. I grabbed these from ms' post on first page and theyre not working.

Evo 2.2 MikFroYo 4.3 Netarchy SBC Kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] Beknatok:
The zip files are fine. Just toggle Signature Verification OFF in your Recovery. I know the latest AmonRA Recovery as this, no idea about Clockwork.
[EVO 4G Android Development] str8chillin1805:
Ok thanks let me do it now

Evo 2.2 MikFroYo 4.3 Netarchy SBC Kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
if you upgrade to amon 2.3.1, it has signature verification check off by default and you well never get that "failed signature" message

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10653257&postcount=2093
[EVO 4G Android Development] reedsammy7:
graphic issues

the only problem that i am having is that when i do flash the 4.2.2 more aggressive and other versions of this kernel i get graphic problems. i get lines in the graphics when transitioning from screen to screen or even using the keyboard it does it. i am running the MIUI v1.14....can someone please point me in the right direction because i really liked this kernel on the previous version of MIUI that i was running before the update. i have wiped everything like 4 times and it still has the graphic problems....PM if you would like
[EVO 4G Android Development] str8chillin1805:
I turned it off manually but how do i upgrade the recovery?

Evo 2.2 MikFroYo 4.3 Netarchy SBC Kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] FreaKnNuts:
Which Kernel to use.

Im currently running Myns rom and I am curious to which kernel would be good to run with this rom. Still in a learning curve with the kernels.:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
download the image in the link, then move it to the root if your sdcard, open a terminal and type

su

flash_image recovery /sdcard/"name of img file" (without quotes)

I usually rename my img files to make typing it easier so I type

flash_image recovery /sdcard/blah.img
[EVO 4G Android Development] phajen:
MIUI is an AOSP rom, you'll need to get an AOSP kernel to make everything cooperate. I don't know what causes it, but Netarchy's kernels are not all universal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cowboyboats:
Just put the image on your sd and reload into recovery and follow the prompts
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Nets version 4.3.1 addresses the graphic lines issue and its available with SBC at http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/ Just not sure if you can run on MIUI?

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] reedsammy7:
thank you jim for the input but i flashed that and it still had the graphic lines issue. i don't know what else to do. can someone help with this problem
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Since you are using MIUI...have you tried the AOSP version (v7) on the 2nd post? Can't hurt to try it as long as you have a good nand backup.

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] dthomas03:
MIUI (1/14)...on v8 is smooth like butter. No issues what so ever. And it sleeps like a baby!

Thanks MS.

P.S...ETA on v9?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
U need bcnices v7 aosp or v8 and or zens/savage kernels that are aosp with the sbc that's about it really
[EVO 4G Android Development] adambomb6:
Thanks for all the work on this. I've been using Myn RLS4 and HTC #17 for a while.

I loaded #131 (havs) up and seems to be running well. I let it charge up to 4196mV. I saw it trickle down from 48mA charge dow to 14mA/4196mV at about 28.5 C. Everything is looking good. I think it was at 100% for about 45 minutes before I pulled it off the charge.

This looks to be a solid piece of work. Hopefully it can one day be packaged into all the kernals (and maybe HTC will take the hint and put it in their own).

I'm wondering if anyone has seen what happens on a car charger yet?

Also, I wonder what this "Max Charging" will do to the battery longevity? I would assume this would shorten it somewhat (question is how much). Even if it cuts it down from 18months to 12 or 9, batteries are easy/cheap enough I'd guess to get some extra juice.
[EVO 4G Android Development] oskr7:
This is by far the best kernel. My phone stayed at 87% for 2 hours.

Thank you MS79723
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Awesome news! I for one am extremely excited and ill keep you posted with my results once this is released.

Evolved into a higher form of communication
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Well it'll probably shorten the battery by a bit but like you said, they are cheap. And i would rather always get a full charge than a weak charge overnight.

I'm gonna try to reply to aall these comments, I'm at worj and I only have my Evo so this is kinda tough.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Which version of bfs would you like?
[EVO 4G Android Development] snrbobo:
wew

any chance of kings bfs kernal #9?

none of the netarchy kernels work with my evo. it always runs at 998mhz even when idle.

do you think setcpu is messing with this kernel?

it's set to smartass on setcpu

should i run the kernel without setcpu?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
Hey ms79723, wondering, are any of your latest builds built off of net's newest 4.2.2 by chance? And if not, any plans to build off it? I just really like the changes in nets latest and wanna try your kernel too, but I had issues with 4.2.1 (random reboots, even without HAVS). But 4.2.2 is great so far (less HAVS). Thanks man :-) your kernel sounds like a dream come true. But I charge overnight, so it stays on the charger until morning. Will it cause any issues in longevity of life when its on 100% for long over each night?

Sent from my tricked out HTC EVO running Calkulin's latest creation until Myn's RLS 5 hits the threads :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] sd2649:
I am on 131. In spare parts, wakelock. "android system" is pegged out... how do I fix that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
meh, you are better off running a stock kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
make sure its partial wake usage and since last boot as if you just pulled it off the charger the numbers are going to be skewed. my suggestion is to always wipe cache and reboot. also if you have tango installed that is a confirmed battery killer
[EVO 4G Android Development] snrbobo:
hmmm

if this is the case how about editing a stock kernel? :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
+1 on the tango killer... absolutely destroys battery -- damn app
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
check my earlier post, 131 is operating pretty good for me. what ROM are you running? what recovery? i have never had any issues on my evo, which is not to say that you don't but this kernel is starting to settle in pretty nice.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LudoGris:
Very little usage after taking it off the charger, WiFi on and connected the whole time, GPS on, a couple of texts and Google Reader online once....over 3 hours 45 minutes at 100%. Sitting at 98% now with 4h 26m 24s. 26 Degrees C temp. Love this Kernel! Great Work!
[EVO 4G Android Development] snrbobo:
i was running myn rls4. Amon RA 1.8.0.

Every time i apply a net kernel my phone stays at 998mhz according to setcpu.

it doesn't overheat or anything tho.

and i know its actually running that high due to a lot of lag.

I'm not sure what to do
[EVO 4G Android Development] mgalyan:
Confirmed Working

Have never been able to pull the phone off the charger and see 100% for over a minute or two. Took over 25 mins to drop to 89%.

Good work!!! Too bad I'm not in love with Net's kernels, no offense. They just don't love my phone...

I will keep using this for a while. If you could get the source for Ziggy's latest kernel (HOT STUFF!!!) or the stock HTC #17, you would make a ton of people extremely happy.

Nevertheless, thanks again!

Update - More Info:

@65% Battery Quadrant Score of 1250, SetCPU running Max at 998MHz, SmartAss scaling.

[Working On:]

Myn's Warm 2.2 Official RLS 4

3.30.651.3

PRI 1.77_003
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
what version? that is impressive!! normal battery?

if your going to install setcpu, i would uninstall it before flashing a kernel. also when you flash the kernel double wipe both caches and then flash the kernel. when you install setcpu if you choose(i haven't in months) make sure you hit menu - auto detect to update the app to the new kernel and set your governor. also i would advice against any profiles as well. if your going to OC make sure you uncheck set at boot until you know it works at that speed, hope that helps

if you want your favorite dev to use this tweak, point him to this thread, link him whatever. MS has a link to his github right on the first post
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Netarchy 4.2.1 bfs havs more smartass please

Edit:

Its a shame 4.2.2 doesnt have bfs yet...although I see it coming soon

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[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
MS, my two cents - work on the tweak and updating your github. once this is down pat, we can link the crap out of this thread to our dev of choice, but unless your git is up to date, your going to be stuck taking all these requests ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] aph:
Looks like net did away with smartass in 4.2.2.

If we could get an update to .27 that would be awesome. :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
found this interesting, apple uses trickle charging also :-)

http://www.apple.com/batteries/
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeOD:
I'm giving SBC another go...I'm running the Net 4.3.1 beta with CFS/HAVS and SBC from his website (you have to follow the link to his archive as he's not linking the SBC's on his thread)...last night was the first charge with it, it seems fine to me, we'll see what tomorrow brings.

For what it's worth, I took my stock red Evo battery out, and put in my TP2 battery before swapping kernels...I'm pretty sure they're the same dam battery, but in case this does cause damage, I'd rather damage the older one...I don't think it's going to be a problem at all though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davidc23:
guys i will use this but will it sorten my battery life (not talking about percentage) i mean like how many years the battery lasts or months.
[EVO 4G Android Development] m20120:
Not the same thing that is being discussed here. They charge at full power to 80% then trickle charge to 100%. They then stop charging when they hit 100%.

The SBC charger posted here would trickle charge continuously beyond 100% charge.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
if you have to ask, you probably should check out the OP and then make an informed decision.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
thanks for sharing that with me. i'm still on the fence cuz i loved the battery i was getting on SBC, but i'm still researching. thank you for the info
[EVO 4G Android Development] cowboyboats:
I can't make sense of that from the graph, it flat lines at .25/1 current voltage
[EVO 4G Android Development] scooter185:
flashed V8 to see how it works, i'm still leery of v7 and it's trickle charge though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
somthing i never asked and im feeling like a blond bc of the time but do all these kernels on here are they ac/usb trickel chargin???
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Drunk, dude are you?
[EVO 4G Android Development] runsoverfrogs:
so wait, is the first sense one, the HTC kernel 15 v7, is that just the regular htc kernel with sbc? or is this the modified netharcy mentioned above?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bytes2bits:
the regular htc kernel with sbc
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
ms, is it possible to make SBC into a flashable zip that we can flash onto any kernel? or is it more involved than that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] DRUMSBH:
MS, can we get a Bump Charge version of HTC kernel 15? So... HTC kernel 15 v8? that would be sweet.

Thanks for all your hard work!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
No its v7 on htc #15
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
Maybe lol....argh hangover, but I still wanna know
[EVO 4G Android Development] bytes2bits:
Now I'm confused. Isn't the regular htc #15 with sbc the same thing as saying v7 on htc #15? What else does v7 add to a kernel other than sbc?:confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] DRUMSBH:
Yes the regular htc #15 with SBC IS the v7.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
Different version of sbc the best honestly until we see v9
[EVO 4G Android Development] manup456:
I love the kernal using MIUI not sure if it has Wimax going but very smooth, I had a issue installing on Amon latest so re-packed and hosted it here SBC-bcnice-stable-v8---> http://www.digitalstylewars.com/Down...-stable-v8.zip

Should work on the new Clockwork recoverys as well.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bytes2bits:
Okay, so to rephrase it, htc #15 v7 is the regular htc #15 kernel with "trickle" charging (not bump charging). Correct?
[EVO 4G Android Development] DRUMSBH:
Correct... I wish it was bump....
[EVO 4G Android Development] nivron:
The SBC changes are a patch to the source code of the kernel. After the patch, the kernel needs to be compiled. I don't think there is a way to flash it to a particular kernel the way you describe. That would be super awesome though. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
That is my understandi as well since it needs to be compiled not simply added over top, could be wrong
[EVO 4G Android Development] who1981:
SBC all the way!

I have a SEIDIO 3500mAh, and before SBC it only helped a little. I still could barely make it through my average day (I'm a public school district technician, RDPing into servers and 3 exchange accounts)...I just kept using the extended battery cause it protected the camera lens, and the hunch-back actually makes it easier to hold the phone.

I faithfully run Myn's Warm Two.Two Rls4/5, and have been running

"SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.1.9.1"

for about a month now. I started out on 131, and also tried the Net 4.2.2 version, but found either glitches, or inferior battery life with those.

Now I charge all night, use the phone hard all day, it takes a couple hours to hit 90%, and I'm usually around 50% when I put it to bed! The life has only gotten better, and I've never noticed it getting hot charging. I'd try switching back to the stock battery, but then I'd have to get a case ;)

I'll try other (SBC) kernels as they arrive (flashoholic) but I'm more than happy with my current setup!

HTC EVO 4G, Hardware 0003

SEIDIO 3500mAH Battery/Camera Protector

32GB Patriot Class10 MicroSD

Ext3 App2SD, Dalvik to SD

SBC Net 4.1.9.1 CSF More Aggressive

SetCPU 245760-1152000 Conservative

- No Profiles

- Advanced: Up 95% Down 93% Step 50%

Myn's Warm Two.Two RLS5

- NonSense 0.3 mod

- Zeam Launcher (it's lite)

Quadrant ≈ 1420

Linpack ≈ 38.2 MFLOPS

FPS2D ≈ 53FPS stdev ≈ 3.8

Battery Life: 50% after 17 hours, heavy use
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
Yes
[EVO 4G Android Development] Greenfieldan:
No one here should use this kernel! This Kernel slapped my baby turtle because I left it alone with the turtle and subtly played a song I made called "slap it" in the background. I also held a gun up to this kernel to make it do so. Because it slapped it under these perfect conditions, this kernel will slap all of your baby turtles no matter what you do. I don't care that this was in the OP as a warning... it happened to my turtle so no one should trust it. If you use it, I will blow up this thread because my opinion and experience is better than yours.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pantherdaddy:
I agree with himim I use ance kernel and under heavy usage and have ZERO problems. So my point is to everyone bashing everyone else for there incompetence to take reasonably of user error and put blame.on some one else. I BELIVE IT IS TIME FOR EVERYONE TO GROW THE F---- UP and get over urselfs and learn from the mistakes that u the use have caused. And trust me I.have .messed up my phone manu of times but u know what I learned how to.fix it my.Damn self and that makes me feel good. There's.not much I can't to do to my phone now .because I learned.to fix my own mess UPS. .
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
So what exactly are you trying to say????? Because I think if your saying its bad I think everyone would love to hear this
[EVO 4G Android Development] nYdGeo:
I am so jealous or that, but I know that something is clearly wrong with my Evo. No one seems to know what it is. I’m also using a 3500 mAh battery, but not to any advantage. In fact I get considerably less usage with this now then I used to get with the stock 1500mAh battery, regardless of the ROM or kernel.

Before middle of last November, if I charged the phone fully (without the benefits of SBC), and then just unplugged it on a Saturday night and let it sit unused for like 19-hours, the charge would be around 89%, +/- 1%, with the stock battery.

Today, using the 3500 mAh extended battery, no phone calls, Bluetooth on for about 20-miutes this morning for the drive to work and was turned off upon my arrival, and I’ve sent and received 4-5 messages on GTalk. That’s it.

The current status:

Charge: 70%

5h 52min unplugged

Up time: 6:15

Awake time: 1:20

Usage:

Cell Standby: 42%

Phone Idle: 43%

Android System: 8%

Bluetooth: 4%

Display: 3%

Phone runs great; everything works great, no other issues, just have to have chargers everywhere to get through a day. Hopefully I'll figure it out, but in the mean time, enjoy that excellent battery life for me!
[EVO 4G Android Development] crstfr:
.. man not sure... that's wild!...

i'm in 15 hrs 19m... .. right now.. its 3pm....i have 24% left on battery........if it last me a whole day.... i'm ecstatic......this last longer than that!...
[EVO 4G Android Development] SouthernEvo:
Two things come to mind when I read this . 1) Your battery is failing maybe it was a bad one who knows , sometimese they fail sometimes they dont . 2)What is your time without signal at ?I dunno but Cell standby time is pretty high up there for the time your phone has been on . Are all your radios up to date and are you using a rom and kernel that is desinged for the new radios ? If you are using older software its a known issue that the 1.90 Pri can cause excessive drain as well (Though i dont beleive thats the case since your android system is that low on the percentage)
[EVO 4G Android Development] lildoug2410:
I am currently using sbc #15. Would like to use the others but whenever I flash them, my camera stops working. The screen just turns black whenever I hit the camera icon. I have tried clearing data and still nothing. Any suggestions?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Greenfieldan:
Exactly. You're all idiots for using this kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] who1981:
Forgot to mention...RADIO/PRI

I haven't updated my radios/PRI in a while, and that may be part of my GOOD battery life...also don't have 4G close by, so that's not in the equation.

SO here is the WHOLE shebang with Radios:

HTC EVO 4G, Hardware 0003

Baseband/Radio: 2.15.00.09.01

PRI: 1.77_003

SEIDIO 3500mAH Battery/Camera Protector

32GB Patriot Class10 MicroSD

- Tests: 10MB/s Read, 12MB/s Write

Ext3 App2SD, Dalvik to SD

SBC Net 4.1.9.1 CSF More Aggressive

SetCPU 245760-1152000 Conservative

- No Profiles

- Advanced: Up 95% Down 93% Step 50%

Myn's Warm Two.Two RLS5

- NonSense 0.3 mod

- Zeam Launcher (it's lite)

Quadrant ≈ 1420

Linpack ≈ 38.2 MFLOPS

FPS2D ≈ 53FPS stdev ≈ 3.8

Battery Life: 50% after 17 hours, heavy use
[EVO 4G Android Development] cb7tuner93:
Ok, so i'm running v8-BETA with Myn's RLS 5. With Myn's RLS 4 I was getting awesome battery life with v7 and now its draining fairly quick, What governor should be set on set cpu? I notice it's running on SMARTASS, Is this my problem? Someone posted it should be on, ONDEMAND is this correct?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
With Bc's older kernels (v8 is based off of Bc's kernel) there was a problem with undervolting...it just didn't do it. So v8 doesn't have any HAVs while the v7 kernels all have HAVs
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
See people like u just doesn't need to be in this thread so if u don't have anything nice to say about our dev MS and his work you can leave other wise mods will handle u