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[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheek360:
Compare stock to cm 6.1.1?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klmsu19:
Yes stock ROM to CM 6.1.1 was what I meant. Nothing different in build.prop that would affect the radio portion. Just some memory tweaks but that would have nothing to do with the signal or data speeds.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheek360:
Oh ok. Sorry for the confusion.

After the new g2 update I actually got stronger signals n better data speeds though. I don't think downgrading the radio will help....

But its worth a go I guess
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klmsu19:
what I can say for sure is:

Stock G2 is running baseband (radio) 12.21.60.09bU_26.02.01.15_M2

and

6.1.1 shows as 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M

Newer version, but maybe something is buggy in the newer radio?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GunToYoMouth123:
So than its possible that its the radio causing this error.

Or should I say "bad signal"

Is it possible to flash the stock newest radio to 6.1.1 ?

That way I can test it out and see if that helps to solve the problem for me and everybody else having this problem.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
That radio version for 6.1.1 is the DZ radio that was in the initial European phones. It should be just fine on the G2.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klmsu19:
Well of course in theory it should but I too am seeing a max of 1mb down 500k up in an HSPA+ area, so obviously something is wrong with many seeing slower results too.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdayjr:
12.21.60.09bU_26.02.01.15_M2 (pre-OTA)

12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M (post-OTA)

Your radio doesn't change when you flash a rom. You have to flash a radio separately. If you updated back before we got root than you updated your radio then. That was the purpose of the OTA initially, radio issues (signal drop outs, random reboots, minor enhancements)

This issue has been brought up before. Don't believe a resolution has been obtained.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] klmsu19:
ah ok, makes sense.

Then I guess Tmo 3G/4G is just sucking here because Im only getting 1-1.5 down and 500k up which is slow even for 3G.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdayjr:
I too am really struggling with the fact of the slow speeds. I'm a truck driver and the data is variable (of course) all over. My theory is that the implication of 4G towers around the U.S. has some effect on all data ports and the fact that TMO is pushing 4G phones, the data ports' power are not strong enough to handle the load. Kinda like AT&T in L.A. when they brought in 4G. They had to devise some sort of device to add to the towers to handle the data over load. Just my theory though.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GunToYoMouth123:
Well, it can't me tmobile. For the fact that in stock as I said before its flawless reception. But once I change my rom to any other custom rom that's when the reception is so bad.

This is the main reason WHY I made this post in the first place.

Download speedtest. And test on stock rom, than backup, test on any other custom roms.

And let us know and you'll see.

But make sure you stay at the same spot as you do this to see the results perfectly.

Can it be the kernel? Cause the kernels do flash with the custom roms.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GunToYoMouth123:
True so it can't be the radio.

I tried it out and cm 6.1.1 has a little bit more better reception than others but still not as good as stock rom.

I thought I would've bin saved but still...not as good as stock.

So I went back, till this day with my rooted G2 I bin trying to see what it is.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] infamousjax:
Speeds are the same here..

I think you guys are just experiencing a placebo effect... It's probably that your just in a ****ty network area.. there's a lot of variables that can be taken into consideration for slower speeds, highly doubtful it's due to what ROM you're running.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GunToYoMouth123:
As I said millions of times, it can't be that.

and I said before I know cause in stock in my area I get full bars and beautiful speeds.

I really don't like repeating myself lol.

But like I said to make it more understandable during stock in the same area (which is my house) I have full speeds, always test it with speedtest. And when I change my rom and speedtest in the same place (my house) the speeds are too low and jumps from 4G to 3G and its not 4G cause the speeds is bad and it jumps back to 4G only once in a blue moon but still bad speeds. And usually goes to edge from 3g...

Please, I know what I'm saying... its not a bad area at all. Lol.

Stock perfect speeds, same area, as I bought it, and than rom changed and the speeds MAGICALLY reduce.

Get me now? Lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdayjr:
Try this, pull the stock Phone.apk and rip out the XML and pull the Phone.apk on the custom you're using. Replace the custom XML with the stock and push back. I did it once working on the hdpi and it changed my signal and options. Wont hurt to try.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GunToYoMouth123:
Will do, thank you sir.

I will try it out now and report back with the results.

Can I have some instrructions with that, please? :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdayjr:
1; Have a backup or rom

2: Go to your stock rom, open, go to system folder, app folder, phone.apk and extract to where ever.

3: open phone.apk with .7z and you should see xml file. Left click and extract it to wherever you can find it.

4:Open command terminal in sdk tools folder. Makes things easier. Put phone in debug, hook to PC

5: adb pull system /app Phone.apk

6: Rename this folder to take .apk off

7:open, copy /paste Phone.apk to sdk/tools (where you're working out of)

8: open phone.apk with. .7z, go to where you put stock xml, drag it to here and push yes

9: adb remount

10: adb push Phone.apk system /app

11:adb reboot

Hope this works for you.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GunToYoMouth123:
thank you sir, will try this out.

Small update though, tried the Virtuous latest rom again.

decided to give it another chance and see whats up.

and it seems if you change the kernel to the Pershoot v1.2 by Pershoot for sense roms, the problem is solved.

this is the only rom I've actually solved for now.

so anybody using stock like and CM ROMS should use the settings above given by mdayjr .

will come back if i find some more things out.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkphoenix2012:
I am having the same problems that all of you are having too. I am using a sense rom, so I will see if this pershoot kernel fix may help. I'll post any results after trying this.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkphoenix2012:
I have flashed every kernel I could find and no luck so far with data speeds increasing even slightly. We really need some pro dev help here. Having to stick with stock to actually see 3/4g speeds is unacceptable.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mejorguille:
I haven't read all the posts on this thread, but here is my hypothesis.

It's brilliantly simple: UV kernels = less signal strength. Stock kernel has a higher voltage for most frequencies, so by my theory, you should get less signal. Maybe we should convince one of the kernel devs to try out an OV kernel to see if my theory is right.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] el_smurfo:
Had a similar problem (though stock sucked for me too). Latest Pershoot fixed all my 4g issues on CM6.1.1
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GunToYoMouth123:
Sorry I haven't got back to my own thread,those who still need info about this topic,I've found some other news.

It seems the "H" that pops up when your in 4G in your area with stock rom,kinda lies to you.

According to a developer , it lies to you and the custom roms,or should I say this paticular developers rom,is presisted on its 4G and 3G or edge icone and signal.

But, I believe its only his custom rom,with his kernal ,pershoot and so on.

I've tested roms and speeds on speedtest and their speed gets lower.

Our best best for 4G speeds and connection clost to ov kernels are to go Sense. You guys know virtuous? :)

But, sense isn't as fast as vanilla roms...so...its kinda hard to decide.

Uhh, yeah,feel free to post any useful info about this topic. :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pmcqueen:
this has been established since day 1, and was posted in this thread earlier (and conveniently ignored).

it's interesting to me also that no one has mentioned network traffic... bandwidth is a finite resource, if there are more people using their devices, your speeds are going to decrease. you can test this by doing a speed test during high-traffic times of day (like later in the evening) versus lower-traffic times of day (like early in the morning).

you very well could be tricking yourself because of when you do the test. time is as much a factor as location for speed tests.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darinmc:
I have a glacier, but am experiencing the same issue. Instead of speed testing, flashing, and speed testing again, I have my GF's stock phone sitting next to my custom ROM (cm6/cm7). I will grant that there are always discrepancies on tests like this, but I think putting two phones side by side should yield at least similar results. They do not. Cyanogen roms are all over the place, while stock ROM is consistent. Everything else worked perfectly, I flashed properly, but data was erratic. Loading web pages was unnoticable, but anything that was bandwidth heavy, like a streaming video, had to rebuffer. Downloads would come down in bursts. I revert to stock, the two phones share striking similar speeds with no rebuffering and steady downloads. They have identical radio versions, so I can only assume that it has to do with SOMETHING in the rom, though I know not what. Been all over xda and google, all I find are questions. Sorry if this is considering hijacking, just seems to be the exact same issue.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] humpinbaybays:
G2 and Dz

dont forget that the roms are "universal" they're supossed to work with the G2 and the Desire Z , aand the desire z does not support 4G
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killswitch11:
This is the one thing I don't like about custom ROMS, at least Cyanogenmod. (Haven't tried any others) I rooted my old MT3G with CM 6.0 and my data/voice reception were horrible... almost unusable. Was fine on stock 1.6. I upgraded to CM 6.1 and things improved a little... but it ran so slow on the aging hardware. Now I have a very capable G2 and just rooted and installed CM 6.1. Again... weaker signals across the board. Data is significantly slower and my wi-fi connection has suffered. The phone is overall faster and I like the ROM... just miss my robust wi-fi signal and overall reception from stock. Thinking of rolling back to that. Almost negates the point of rooting in the first place. Anxiously awaiting CM7 stable and hoping these persistent issues will go away as I hear some Sense-based ROMS (no thanks for me) do not suffer these issues.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craiglay:
Technically the G2 doesnt support 4G Either. Here in europe, 4G is LTE / WIMAX and HSPA+ which both phones support is 3G.

It will become interesting when LTE comes in and the "4G" G2 definately doesnt support it.

Craig

Sent from my Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GunToYoMouth123:
Well actually, G2 does support it..according to the speeds. But the europian version aka Desire Z does NOT. In addition its way faster than It. But, the phones speed change will relate to both the rom and radio as I've bin testing out for awhile. Changed a lot and the results seem random depending on the radio and rom. Its quite confusion ,just need an on point result and all will be answered.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craiglay:
I wont deny that as in the US, 4G is defined by speed, not baseband hardware like in Europe. :)

I understand the radios are the same 14.4Mbps HSPA+ in both devices, the only difference is frequency support.

Yeah, I guess due to refinements in the radio firmware made over time. Some custom ROMS will have generic drivers for the RIL rather than optimized for the device. This is probably where the variation comes from. I also think you have to match RIL versions with certain radio's for maximum performance. It'll quickly become a minefield..

Lets also not forget that area, time of day etc come into play as the mobile network is very dynamic and 14.4Mbps is still theoretical. I don't think we're ever going to get good 3G coverage in the UK let alone HSPA+ and it will be 2014 / 2015 when we start to get LTE :( [EDIT] We actually do have HSPA+ in major cities in the UK, it isn't really advertised and I haven't noticed much of an improvement in London either

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bdix:
i have also tested my G2 with my wifes Stock G2. Its also affects wifi. on one end of the house my G2 on MeXdroid/CM6and7/MIUI will only get one bar of wifi if any. My wifes G2 in same spot gets full bars. she will be on our wifi when we leave the house until we get to the end of are street( about 200ft). My G2 will lose 1bar of wifi just walking into my kitchen(about 10 feet from router). this has been proved on Speedtest.net app. on Virtuous we have the same Wifi strength, but signal is knowere near the same. I'm G2 on Virtuous will only sit a 3g full bars and get around 1.5mbps down. Her G2 with stock ROM at the same time will be on "H" with a bar or two(never full strength) and score 4 to 5Mbps. My speeds are even slower on other ROMs
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahmado78:
bringing back an old thread

Hey whats up guys just wondering if there was a solution to this topic? I haven't seen much on it or none that I could find at least. Any custom rom on the vision jumps back and forth from 3g to 4g. Usually when on the phone texting or listening to music its on 3g, and as soon as you open the browser it'll jump to 4g for a little bit than go back and forth to 3g. I've seen this happen on a htc mytouch 4g (glacier) same exact symptoms and only when on a custom rom (tried virtuous and cm7).

I understand G2 does not have a radio to flash but the glacier had a few and I actually flashed each one and had the same issue. So I'm guessing it's not radio related based on that info.

If anyone has some info to toss around I'm all ears.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
Somewhat rom specific somewhat radio specific. If you like all other aspects of the rom you are using flash a diffrent radio. There are plenty of roms out there that will work just as good if not better then stock when using the right radio
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartyMayhem:
Custom Rom with better signal

Hey all, i'm new to this whole rooting and custom rom stuff but i was told that there is a rom out there that lets you switch between cell towers/carriers to pick up the better signal. Is this true?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demkantor:
No
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartyMayhem:
ok

Ok thanks, i thought that sounded too good to be true. Another thing, i have a MyTouch 4g and when i rooted my phone and put a rom on, my 3g,4g symbols turned to E and H, since i am new to this stuff, does H=4g and E=3g? Also, is there a rom that improves signal strength or a extra mod that i could input to get better signal? I lost some bars when i rooted my phone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jesziicuh:
I'm running myns Rom

I wanna remove launcher pro completely and just use axe but I'm not sure how to

Thanks for the help in advance
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weaselp1:
Go to settings, applications, manage applications,click downloaded,scroll down to launcher pro and click it and uninstall it
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jesziicuh:
That's the problem I Dnt see it there but its defin there so I'm kinda confused on what steps I should take
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dreddge:
Make sure the "All" tab is selected in the manage applications screen. Or download advanced task manager free and try the uninstall option there

Sent from the bowels of my mind....
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpsalas:
hey i need help :(...i finally got to work the download mode on my GT i9000 but i tried to flash CF-Root-XX_OXA_JPU-v1.3-BusyBox-1.17.1 with odin 1.3 and now my cell gets stuck at the 1st startup phase..i HOPE i can recover...is i said I CAN get into download mode...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg2:
Boot into recovery mode. 1) does it work and 2) if so, do you see an error msg under the menu?

You could always just try flashing a fresh rom.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpsalas:
FIXED!! woot fixed and on gingerbread 2.3!! omg this forum rules THANKS ALOT!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg2:
What did you do to fix it? And what did you follow to load gingerbread?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpsalas:
i dont remember exactly what i did..but im sure i reflashed a rom...and follow exactly the update for gingerbread from its thread.
[Nexus S General] bblanski:
Using exchange for my hotmail and now it won't connect. Was working fine and then stopped. Works fine on my galaxy tab and mt4g.
[Nexus S General] bblanski:
Anyone else having this problem?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] taypotts:
http://droidattic.com/Apps/App-Gingerbread-Keyboard-for-ALL-Phones-No-Root-Required.html

I been running this all day! Its amazing!!!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] imnuts:
Or you could go right to the XDA thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=875202
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] FDro:
Is the keyboard small like many of the 2.1 users are claiming?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] TheSonicEmerald:
I like the smallness, leaves a lot of space for the top.

Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, Clocked at 1.3Ghz
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] taypotts:
Its not too bad.. a lil bit smaller then the regular stock keyboard but not too bad.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] frostman89:
Haptic feedback, ie vibrate on keypress work for anyone?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] DroidBlaze:
Nope haptic feedback not working :(
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] garywojdan81:
Yep same here. No haptic feedback.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] shauder:
The only thing I like better about the DX keyboard is full Multi-Touch KB
[Fascinate General] revolt1:
on speed test my up and down speeds are very speratic and low

i saw the 3g speed fix .will that work with the dj05 update
[Fascinate General] TheSonicEmerald:
I did it, and it worked for me.

Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, Clocked at 1.3Ghz
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.

So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.

But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.

I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.

I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?

One thing I did like about the EVO, was how flat and big it was, sure I didn't like the heavy thick feel of the EVO, but the large screen was easier for texting, the keyboard was big and nice to type on, the N-S with the curved screen, makes the keyboard look really small to me compared to the EVO.
[Nexus S General] Anderdroid:
It's only worth keeping if you're gonna sell the Evo.

Either way they both are strong phones I'd say. However I myself would stick with the pure Google. I'm never going to anything else ever again lol. Waiting for handset updates is the most frustrating thing ever.

As for dropping it. I once dropped my Vibrant. Walked into a water hydrant (yes). The back flew off, as did the battery and the SD card (which I didn't notice had shot out). Either way, it had minor scuffs on the bezel and battery cover after this. Bezel is easy to replace and battery cover is easy to replace. Screen was still flawless. What did I lose? A 16gb class 6 SD card full of source code backups. Good thing the Nexus S has internal storage, :p.
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
Good point, I did buy the N-S for the "pure" Android experience, and not having to run custom roms/themes, and million downloads and installs, just to get what this gives me right out of the box, stock. And with all those custom roms, and stuff, the EVO seemed a little more sluggish to me, than stock Sense UI.

Plus this screen is just so awesome, I love it. And really like the thinness and light weight of it compared to the heavy EVO.
[Nexus S General] suhas_sm:
Looks you are actually having second thoughts on keeping T-Mobile rather than device.
[Nexus S General] AdamHart612:
I've been on TMobile since 1998 and I don't think I've ever experienced a dropped call. Sprint as my work phone the last two years and never had one either. What happens? Phone just hangs up? Just bizarre to me
[Nexus S General] Kubernetes:
As long as you don't break the screen it should be very durable. The great thing about a plastic housing is that you can treat it like crap--a replacement back will probably run $5-$10, which is cheaper than any case you can buy. Metal phone housings are tres nice, but you're always paranoid about scratching or denting it (which, besides bringing tears to your eyes, lowers resale value).

My philosophy has always been that since I look at the screen and hold the housing, I'd prefer a phone with a great screen over a great housing (it's nice to have both, but you right now you have to choose).

That being said, I'd stick to the Evo. An Android phone loses the majority of its functionality if you can't get a signal, so in your case the Evo is the better choice (or get an Epic, which has SAMOLED and the same CPU/GPU as NS).
[Nexus S General] AdamHart612:
You own an Evo already. Its the most feature rich phone on the market. NS is awesome for me. But if I had to choose just one id keep my Evo