yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
hI

15 shows as #2, don't worry

wifi issues on 15 are known with some phones, sorry I don't know a fix yet

sorry for double post, edit did a quote instead
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
ANYONE?? Just wondering if I will miss much battery life? Also I noticed this morning that I streamed some FLASH VIDEO from a web site and it killed the bater.. down to 91% like that... I guess heavy use kills the battery no matter what...
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
245 min won't hurt the battery at all, yes heavy use right off the charger or right before unplugging will cause a quick drain
[EVO 4G Android Development] Brian Rubin:
K, I swapped another HTC battery in there, so I'll let it go for a spell and check it again. Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
I thought what you are describing is what TRICKLE CHARGE Does? hwo do I know if the kernel I am using is BUMP or TRICKLE? I searched and if I read correctly I would want BUMP charge so you could use the phone while plugged in and it would bump it back up to 0MA's?? I was running a V7 4.1.9 with trickle charge... IM now running the 4.2.1 v7 (one of th latest december ones I think 131 for sense)
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
OK.. SO 245 vs 128 isnt much difference.. OK lets see how it works out.. Im at 245min - 245 max POWER SAVE for screen off... main profile is 128-998 (not over clocked) and smartass.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
the v7 series are bump charge, 131/132 were the last trickle, I'm unsure on v8, I tried it for a while but it worked so well I didn't look at it too much

edit: v7 is trickle, not bump, v7 has different charging characteristics than the 131/132 and shouldn't drop below 0 or -2mA while 131/132 will drop to -10mA

v8 is bump
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
How can I tell which one I am running by looking at the SOFTWARE in ABOUT PHONE? also can you explain the different between tickle ad bump??

EDIT SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.2.1 (aka 131) 131.zip - is what I am running so I guess it is BUMP CHARGE.. please explain the difference.. I kind of know but would like someone to explain BUMP vs trickle..

Thanks...
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
the trickle charge sends constant voltage to the battery at all times so it will show as a curved line on the charge graph, works great for when you charge the phone and don't use it

bump charging is better for people that use the phone while it's charging, it charges to a specified mV then waits for it to drop then it"bumps" it back up to keep the battery at a constant voltage
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
so trickle stops when using the phone and it hits 0ma even when you are using the phone and then dosnt turn back on until the phone is off??? and bump keeps the batter at 0MA while using the phone plugged in?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
what they say in software info was not altered to correctly reflect exactly which they are, be assured that the download links in post 2 are correct in what you are applying to your phone regardless of what it says in software
[EVO 4G Android Development] flex360:
been using this with sprint lovers rom

took me 20 hours for it to drop down to 80%

with light usage

nice kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
trickle doesn't quickly compensate for phone usage as it changes to a very slow charge when the battery gets full, to restart the trickle after heavy use while plugged in you can leave it be for a bit and it will trickle back at a slow rate, or you can unplug/plug to "reset"

v8 will compensate for the use by charging the used amount until it's full again quickly, it's setup so that if battery = lower than full then charge till full. rather than trickles' "continue charging slowly"

edit: changed post to state v8 where before it stated v7
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jjday7:
SBC-net-4.2.2-more-havs-cfs-v7

vs

SBC HTC #15

Which one will give me the best results. I am completely new to this SBC thing and I am not really worried about the battery issues that may possibly happen because batteries are cheap to replace. Which one would you guys recommend and why? thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] iondokk:
I switched from 4.2.2 to#15 and so far so good seems like it charges faster? Battery life seems just as good. Went to church... about an hour and a half later and just hit 99%...
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
Any wifi or 4g issues?

mikfroyo evo, with a side of detox !
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jjday7:
I'll keep that in mind. Im gonna try the 4.2.2 for now or at least a couple of days and then compare it to 15. I am getting 10mb download on 4g here so if my wifi breaks with 15 it's not really going to affect me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pongolo:
I'm pretty sure that the v7 kernels are the trickle charge version (it's what I use) and the v8 is the bump charge version. Check out the second post in the thread...
[EVO 4G Android Development] hoghead1987:
Version 003 with new camera

Hi all, long time reader here. I have 003 hardware with new camera chip. I have tried all the roms on here. Love them all. No kernel will work with mine and give me camera. Crappy battery life with all roms. I am using Calkulin's EViO 2 v1.7.5.

Yersterday I flashed HTC kernel #15 SBC v7 by ms79723 an my camer works and seems like I am getting really good battery life. When I take a photo with the camera it says 3264x1952 so I am getting 8mp. I am so happy that I can finally get better battery life with everything working. I now need to make a donation to Myn, Azreal, (ms79723 is this Netarchy?) and Calkulin as I love all their work and have had so much fun with all the roms. I think the kernels from this post will work with new camera hardware too, but have not tried yet. Both my daughters have the EVO with version 004. I am going to root those today. So much fun. Just wanted to post my info with new camera chip and say thanks for so much great information. Happy New Year to all!

Mike:p
[EVO 4G Android Development] sshark:
If I am mot mistaken v7 is trickle charge version ane v8 was introduced with bump charge. Someone pl correct me if I am wrong.
[EVO 4G Android Development] hoghead1987:
Crappy battery life statement in above post

I meant to say crappy battery life with my phone not with the roms I have been using. The roms are all sweet and all work great with my phone. I got crappy battery life from the get go. I am a heavy user and get about 4 hours of nonstop use surfing, reading,texting and stuff like that. Anyway didnt want to make it sound like the roms are the cause of battery drain.

Mike
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
I'm on v7. Can someone confirm which type of charging it is and is there a v8 for sense if v8 is bump. Specifically one with smartass and powersave like the v7 I am running now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] phi257:
Please Help

Hey Guys,

I am really confused as I have flashed multiple roms before and other zips but this is giving me a big headache and have searched all mover this forum.

I cant get this kernel to update on my phone and Clockwork wont even update my new radios with the zip files on the sd card.

Here is my Phone:

Android 2.2

baseband: 2.15.00.07.21

Kernel: 2.6.32.17

root@paris-laptop #2

Build: Caulkulin Evio 2 Rom v1.75

Software 3.70.651.1

PRI: 1.34_003

PRL: 60674

I am also running clockworkmod 3.0.0.3

Thanks for the help in advance!
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Do you know if the zips you're flashing use the old update script our the new one? Clockwork doesn't work with the old scripts. Update to 3.0.0.4. It will show you an explanation if the scripts are the problem.
[EVO 4G Android Development] phi257:
I am using the latest radios found in the forums:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=715485

and I am trying to flash this kernel.

Does that help?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] DCoop:
You have the HTC 15 kernel installed, this is the latest update available:

" 2.6.32.17

root@paris-laptop #2"

#2= HTC 15

-----------

You might try downloading the radio zips again, yours might be corrupted.

Good luck,
[EVO 4G Android Development] LuvThyMetal:
Hmm i just flashed HTC KERNEL #15 v7 and I'm also having problems with Wifi, It shows im connected but doesn't do anything. It sucks cuz i use Wifi all the time on my phone. Any ideas on how i can fix this :confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] xxRAMOTHxx:
Tell me the exact steps you used to install the kernel? Also what hardware and radio versions?
[EVO 4G Android Development] zeeraf:
will this work on the 0004 hardware ??? i tried one before and it stopped my camera from working
[EVO 4G Android Development] ShadowDrake:
Current issue with that kernel. Please check a few of the most recent posts before coming and asking a question next time.

You will have to wait for a new version.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ShadowDrake:
With the #15 kernel yes. But your wifi will stop working.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
OK so WHICH KERNEL is the one with BUMP CHARGING that will work on SENSE and the 003 hardware (OLD) and is comparable to the one I am running now:

SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.2.1 (aka 131)

This 131 kernel gives AWESOME BATTERY LIFE CONBINED WITH SET CPU! now if I could get one with BUMP CHARGING..

ONE question, though.... Has anyone compared BUMP to TRICKLE and which one is working better for them on a sense rom? I dont want to flash BUMP CHARGE if trickle is working better for everyone... including me who is in heaven with the battery life on the kernel I am running now!

Thanks...
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
would love to hear from anyone else who is running BUMP charge... Im on SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.2.1 (aka 131) and it is giving me awesome battery life.. just want to know if BUMP gives better battery life the way it works for those of us using the phone while on the charger as well as still giving us as good of battery life as what the current kernel I am using which I think is trickle...
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
any of the v7 are bump charge and will work with your hardware, #15 might give you wifi issues

edit: v7 is trickle, not bump
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
131 is a fantastic kernel and was voted into the kernel hall of awesomeness

the v7 series will also give you good battery life and are bump charge so you can use the phone while charging

edit: v7 is trickle, not bump. will still provide good charge during use
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
from people who have use both BUMP and TRICKLE, would you recommend to STAY with TRICKLE or go with BUMP?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jkinnison90:
Will there eventually be a #15 with overclock?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
depends how you use it on the charger, if you leave it be for hours then stick with 131, if you like to pick it up often and use it the try the bump, or can unplug/replug after the use while charged with 131
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
nope, 15 its stock, can't overclock it
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
zendroid and savagekernel have added sbc to their new kernels, might want to try them out too
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
I charge at night when sleeping but at work I tend to put it on the charger and use it from time to time.. SO, should I stick with 131 which is awesome battery life or go with the v7 more havs?

I guess I need to try it and see
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
if I were you I would v7, doesn't sound like your far from a charger often and if you use while charging the v7 would work better but honestly try it out and give each a few days
[EVO 4G Android Development] buck1623:
im with you with this one, i too show connected to wifi but get no use with it. any fix for it yet or are we just stuck for now...
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
stuck for now, seems peeps are having that issue with the stock 15 non sbc too. looks like it won't be fixed, ms will have to modify another stock
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
he has a github setup so anybody can add sbc to a kernel that knows how, wish I knew
[EVO 4G Android Development] phi257:
hmmm I didnt know having the kernel version 2.6.32.17 root@paris-laptop#2 was the latest. Was this on the OP? What am I missing?

btw I updated the radios by downgrading clockworkmod to 2.5
[EVO 4G Android Development] rushco:
If you would have read one page back you will see that this is a known issue with no fix yet.

So many repeat questions in this thread. MS posted a lot at the start of the thread but all these repeat questions make devs stop posting since they answer the same question over and over.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
SBC for Netarchy's 4.2.2 More Aggressive CFS SBC-net-4.2.2-more-havs-cfs-v7.zip is what I just fkashed.. It says 4.2.2 more havs paris laptop #18 . I assume this is bump charge.. we will see what happens...

WHats the difference between 4.2.1 and 4.2.2?
[EVO 4G Android Development] frickinjerms:
similar question to previous post :P i flashed the SBC-net-4.2.2-less-havs-cfs-v7.zip and in my software info it says it is more havs... typo?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
yes, that's a bump, mine slept better with 4.2.2, usage drain was about the same

edit: v7 is trickle not bump
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
yes, no kernels modified by ms have the correct name under software info
[EVO 4G Android Development] LuvThyMetal:
I just went to recovery, wiped cache and dalvik-cache, then flashed the kernel.

Hardware Version: 0003

Baseband Version: 2.15.00.07.28

Software number 3.30.651.3

PRI version: 1.77_003
[EVO 4G Android Development] pongolo:
NewZJ,

You keep stating that the v7 is the bump charge kernel but the bump charge one is v8. V7 is the trickle charge kernel. That's what I'm running and can confirm that's the trickle one.

I tried the v8 and did not like how it worked and went back to v7.
[EVO 4G Android Development] frickinjerms:
awesome haha i never had luck with aggressive havs before so thats why i was curious :P
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
I do apologize about my misinformation, I will flash them to retrain my brain, I remember v8 had the charge-drain-charge approach, and 131 has the slow charging effect for certain, so v7 has the slow charging effect too? dropping to 0mA slowly?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpost:
Been trying to install the 4.2.2 v7 agressive, the problem I am having is that when flashing it comes back with an error saying it is missing a file (some .png), I tried the direct download link and the megaupload. I wiped cache and d. cache before flashing, I am using armon ra and am on Myn's rsl 4.95 beta with updated radios and wimax, currently using the kernel provided with the rom. Any ideas I gave been wanting to try this kernel.

Yes know I need to update my signature ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Ok so what did I just flash? It appears I had 4.2.1 and now 4.2.2. I think I had v7 both times. Which v8 is the one I should install for sense and is bump preferred over trickle?
[EVO 4G Android Development] pongolo:
Yes, the charge on v7 slowly drops off to between 2-4 mA after charging past 100%.

With some many different options on kernels and ROMS, it can get confusing!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sean-El:
Werd, this ****er lasted me 52 hours before it was 1%.. I love it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
okay, I will edit my previous posts notating the discrepancy and include corrected info in the edit

the difference between 131 and v7 is ms used a different rule, v7 attempts to not go lower than 0 or -2mA while 131 was capable of up to -10mA
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
WOW, very impressive
[EVO 4G Android Development] EliWay:
Quick question for the OP or anyone who knows this kernel well:

I use WifiTether a lot to share my 4G between computers. It's VERY hard on the battery, So I always keep it plugged in while using it, via USB or AC.

My question is: Is this kernel for me?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Ok so I put the only v8 that I saw in second post and my evo is laggy. Is there a better v8 for sense or do I stick to v7?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Did you use the phone?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
I did that with v8 and it worked fine, v8 will work with sense roms
[EVO 4G Android Development] sm1te:
I do the same thing and was always strugglling with maintaining battery life even when charging. Since I have moved to the latest sense friendly version of this kernal my battery holds its charge very well with either wireless or usb tethering.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
laggy? do you use setcpu or any other clocking app? I was able to underclock to 806mhz with it still smooth, was running virus airborne 5.0 at the time
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
I just flashed CM 6.1.2 and would like to know which SBC colonel will work with it? thanks for the help.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
honda ur the best! but I'm not falling for the ruse
[EVO 4G Android Development] Atticustrd:
I'm running 4.2.2 #19 on my ava rom. I tried taking video today and I couldn't shoot in 720p. Is it the kernel or the rom?

Edit nevermind. It works the settings were mixed up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Yes set cpu but now after letting it sit its not bad. Should v 8 take longer to get to 0 ma then v7?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xxRAMOTHxx:
Now we are getting somewhere. I think this has something to do with the software version you are running. I think the kernel your using is a kernel for 3.70. 651.1 software and you are on an older version. You either need to flash a kernel for the 3.30.651.3 software or flash a ROM based on the newer software. I may be wrong and forgive me if I am (read read read - the guys on here preach it everyday but I'm sure I read that somewhere.) But try upgrading your radios and flashing a 3.70 rom. May fix your problem.

Here are my specs:

Radio 2.15. 00.11. 19

Kernel 2.6. 32.17 root@paris-laptop #2 (this is htc 15 w/sbc)

Software 3.70. 651.1

MikFroYo v4.1 logical-sense

Pri 1.77_003

Prl 60674

I used Calkulin all in one for the radio updates and flashed the 4.1 MikFroYo rom afterwards. I have been playing with kernels for a week now and really like HTC 15 with SBC that I flashed today. I have no issues with wifi or 4G.

Sorry sending this from my evo on my friends wifi. No links to the other threads cause I don't have a laptop with me.

Hope this gets you going I the right direction.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
lmao now that i'm completely serious, ppl think i'm screwing around hahahaha

Seriously, I want to install a SBC kernel for CM 6.1.2 but don't know what to install.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
i have been told with 2 separate (4.2.2 more havs and less havs) attempts at kernel flashes that system/xbin/12ping is missing
[EVO 4G Android Development] njfoses:
Seems to be the most popular right now. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=883455
[EVO 4G Android Development] njfoses:
Im assuming your using the update amon recovery. If so disable the signature verification and then you can flash the kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
i have the latest version of AR. i flashed it earlier today
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
ah, thanks bud!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mainguy21:
can i use this kernal with any rom? or whats the best rom to use this with..sorry noob status.

thanks in advance.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Should v8 bump ever get to 0 ma? I do leave it on charger over night
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
I guess bump would be good if I use the phone with google navigation and car charger.

But if I leave phone on charger over night will, I see 0 ma like I did with v7?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
I saw some posts in this thread that were misleading so I'm going to put my two cents in.

Anyone who flashed the #15 kernel from this thread and then said they flashed the undervolt zips from calkulins heres some news for you.

The zips in calks threads are only the init scripts for the undervolt settings and not the module itself.

The undervolt module will not load with the #15 kernel from this thread because the string version is different. I had to compile the kernel from source myself just to get the undervolt module working again with the sbc mod.

After compiling from source I included the modules that are present in the 3.70 update for the kernel and my wifi, wimax, 3g, bluetooth etc. are all working.

I'm assuming ms just needs to add the two extra modules that are present in the 3.70 update.

Note for ms: when recompiling the #15 kernel add "-gee557fd" to the kernel string version so that people who are using the undervolt module will be able to use it again and really for any custom module that is matched to the kernels vermagic string.

Image attached to show kernel string that I am talking about.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
are you saying that if I am on V7 and I use the phone while plugged in, it will charge again and I dont need to unplug/replug? also if I am in the car with the car cradle and using GOOGLE NAV, would I benifit from BUMP or TRICKLE?

finally, if I leave my phone on the charger in standby overnight while I sleep, will the phone charge the battery FULLY on BUMP CHARGE? I never see it to to 0MA so I dont know what BUMP is doing as apposed to trickle. I dont see too many people on here talking about V8 bump so I wonder if no one uses BUMP CHARGING??

Sorry for all of these posts I just want to make sure that BUMP is the way to go (or not).. I am thinking NOT as not too many people talk about it...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sean-El:
Yep, no super heavy usage or anything, probably 40-60 texts a day, WordFeud, FaceBook here and there, Weather updates and a few calls a day 1 was 30 minutes and the others 5-10 mins. I turned off Mobile Data whenever i wasn't using it and overnight it didn't drop at all.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
I really can't answer your question about v8 and bump charging as I've never used it, but I can say a few things about trickle charging and its advancements. I've been using this kernel (or other kernels with this mod) since 131. With 131 you had to be careful when using tour phone on the charger. There was a good possibility that you woule exceed voltage and would shut the charger down. With the v7 kernels, you can use it on the charger and it will be fine. I've had it plugged in while using google navigation for hours and it never gave me a problem. Im sure there is a possibility it could excess voltage and shut the charger down (for safetys sake) but I've never seen this happen and I use my phone heavily.

Correct me if im wrong

Evolved into a higher form of communication
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
but if you are using the phone with navigation and the charger while in the car, and the light is GREEN when you get out and take the phone off th charger where are you AT? how many MA's are you down? I guess what I am asking, and I know you probably cant answer BUT someone might be able to, is WHAT is the advantage of BUMP over TRICKLE? I know someone said if you use the phone a lot while plugged in BUMP is better but now I read what you are saying and I dont know if BUMP is any better then trickle (or if I shouldnt even use BUMP).

ANYONE??
[EVO 4G Android Development] kellyrx8:
i tried flashing from the new RA recovery, does it have the same problem the new clock work recovery has where it has problems flashing the zip files?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
I was running zendroid 1.1.0 on my cm7 build, ran great, try it on cm6
[EVO 4G Android Development] miphonematt:
Missing tun.ko module

The SBC Sense kernel based on Netarchy Toastmod 4.2.2 More Aggressive is missing the tun.ko module.

Is this version of the kernel built without the tunneling functionality, or can I simply drop the ko in /system/lib/modules?