yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
The cause and effect. Your phone never seems to go to "network sleep" -mode, it always stays in HSDPA / HSPA+ mode. That causes your battery drain. A correct RIL might fix your problem, but the radio itself might just be non-compatible with your network.

By the way, I noticed a great improvement in wifi signal strength with the new radio.
[Desire HD General] southadam:
Ha...maybe power consumption of

12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M is better than 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M
[Desire HD General] infinityz:
Has Somebody tried the new M3 radio with CM7?
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
Yep. It works. :)
[Desire HD General] muhsli:
+1

after wiping dalvik, and then batterystats for the second time (1st when I flashed the ROM) just to be sure, the battery-life seems very good!

Sent from my Desire HD using 3G
[Desire HD General] infinityz:
Thx mate :-)
[Desire HD General] californiarailroader:
The 26.08.04.07_M3 Radio is working great on my Inspire 4G running CoreDroid 5.1! Battery life seems ok, it seems to pick up better than past radios for WiFi and Cellular networks as well as on my AT&T 3G MicroCell too. GPS Lock is faster than ever, even indoors and with a case on, all in all a great radio.
[Desire HD General] lukogriffioen:
I'm on 26.08.03.07M, I felt its better then the newer one. But it has pretty high battery drain. Gonna use the new one again! I only hear good about it
[Desire HD General] Tombias:
Really amazing fast gps fix with 26.08.04.07_M3

I hadn't test the gps before I read your post. But it's really true. My DHD has a case and I am inside a office building....I got a fix within 10 seconds. This is really amazing!
[Desire HD General] angel314:
Hi,

I have the stock ROM 1.72.405.3 installed, I don't know if R or R2...

How can I check if my radio is "12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2" (the version that comes with R rom) or "12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF" (the one that comes with R2 rom)?

In software information only shows version 1.72.405.3 and radio 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2.

Thank you very much!
[Desire HD General] lukogriffioen:
I think its not possible. Just flash the one you want.
[Desire HD General] angel314:
I think so. Thank you lukogriffioen
[Desire HD General] dazza_84:
Hi, I flashed rcmix yesterday, I used my stock radio with it at first and there was really big battery drain, I then flashed the latest radio at the moment and the problem seems to remain.

I'm not sure what's best to do?? Whether I should flash another radio? Or if there's anyway to maybe make the battery stronger by I heard wiping something like battery stats? But I dunno how to do that?

Any help would be handy, thanks
[Desire HD General] BumAround:
How many hours of usage you consider as acceptable in term of battery drain?

GPS? Strong/weak signal area? 3G on? How many push email? facebook/twitter/messenger?

Charge till full then wipe your batt stat (reboot > recovery > advanced > wipe batt stat), and use your phone normally then charge it again when it's less than 15% batt remains. After 2-3 cycles of discharge-recharge sessions, then you can decide if the radio is suitable (or not).
[Desire HD General] dazza_84:
Well it been off charge for 8 hours and batt is at 55% and I've hardly touched it, just sent a few texts that's it? I'm not sure if that's acceptable? I usually used to browse the net on it a lot and it used to last 12 hours until it needed charging and that was stock radio? My 3g signal is good and my reception seems bit better and WiFi is good.

Ok I'll try wipe batt stats a few times and see if that makes any difference
[Desire HD General] kevinbox:
26.08.04.07_M3 works great!

Lower battery consumption + better 3G signal and speed

Using ARHD 3.3 on Starhub Singapore
[Desire HD General] McKebapp:
+1 on that one. ATM, the best radio around :)

Sent from my... argh... STFU
[Desire HD General] Xybirium:
+1 on the 3G signal. I am getting better 3G signal where I had non-existent before.
[Desire HD General] semsem1969:
hi,

am using the latest Radio also and before i was using 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M

and i think both are about the same.

thanks
[Desire HD General] halvar:
any tips on better radio with GPS? Uses now 12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M. and it takes at least 10 minutes before DHD get coverage had improved GPS with my original radio. just need to have better GPS or faster? any quick ide?
[Desire HD General] shadowlabs9:
Hi,

You can try the new 26.08.04.07_M3 works great on battery life, reception and most of all, it have an outstanding GPS performance (signal and faster fix...).

best regards
[Desire HD General] alain57:
some of you speak about RIL

i don't realy know what it mean..

i found out it's a daemon that communicate between android and radio, correct me if i'm wrong .

So what is the best RIL to apply with the latest RADIO ?

i'm on MIUI 1.4.1 + RADIO from 4 april
[Desire HD General] Xybirium:
Not going to bother with all these ril stuff at the moment.

My GPS locks to 10 satellites within 10 seconds and data connection seems excellent. Have not tested wifi yet. Still testing battery usage.

Just trolling...
[Desire HD General] Whiskey103:
We don't know because we can't tell the base where it comes from.

Sent from my Desire HD using Smoke Signals, Morse Code and Pigeon Post.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Check out this thread for RILs:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=902752

To see which one you have currently type this in Terminal:

getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl"

;)
[Desire HD General] :
It depends (stupid answer I know)... During the testing done in the last weeks with all kind of radio/rom combinations, here are my (non-scientific) findings:

1. The radio has a lot to do with AGPS speeds (as you could see from all these issues with the Galaxy S)

2. It depends on the carrier/country you are in. There is, unfortunately, no "one-size-fits-all" if you look at test/beta radios. The only ones that "should" work for everybody are the WWE released versions.

3. once you established which radio is "good" for you, you can then move to the next level

- Check the rom - especially the build.prop. Example: SAGA (or other desire S based roms) have a lot of config files in system/etc which are being called upon by the build.prop (you can see it in the first lines of the build.prop)

- Once thats all fine, check the gps.conf in system/etc -> set it to the values best for you or use faster

I currently, located in Austria, use the 3.3 ROM revolution and the same radio as you, and get perfect AGPS speed with NTP server set to europe.pool.ntp.org and the rest as it usually is.

All other radios (2.25 based and newer) as well as any Gingerbread roms do not work for me when it comes to agps.

beats me why... but thats what I observed in the last weeks.
[Desire HD General] halvar:
Thanks! Maybe in the wrong thread but running [ROM] Android Revolution HD 4.0 β 4 | Gingerbread & HTC Sense 2.1 | Android 2.3.2 and micke1986. tips Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M everything works fine but it takes so long getting gps signal! But will try shadowlabs9 tips 26.08.04.07_M3 but as you said Thyrus only to try out what is best in la swede.. :)
[Desire HD General] muhsli:
Jag har kör med ARHD 3.2 kombinerat med 26.08.04.07_M3.

Flashade in radion för ett par dagar sedan och jag erfar riktigt bra resultat med denna!

Bättre signal överlag.. 3G, bättre WiFi! och framför allt bättre GPS-signal.

Trodde att detta skulle innebära hög batteriförbrukning, men jag upplever faktiskt batteritiden förbättrad. :)

Jag rekommenderar denna!

I am running ARHD 3.2 combined with the new radio 26.08.04.07_M3.

Flashed this radio a couple of days ago, and I'm experiencing really good results with this one!

Improved signal overall.. 3G, WiFi! and best of all, better GPS-signal.

I thought that this might affect the batterydrain, but I'm actually experiencing a better battery-life. :)

I recommend this radio!
[Desire HD General] tuk11:
I had problems getting a GPS fix using 12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M (ARHD 3.3); after flashing 12.48.60.23U_26.08.04.07_M3, GPS gets a fix quite fast and is way more accurate!
[Desire HD General] Locster126:
alot of good feedback with the new 26.08.04.07 radio but I wonder where that guy got the radio from, he only has a few posts, googling the radio doesnt bring up anything and there is no new RUU with the radio...
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
+1

That's what I wanna know as well, not gonna flash it until I find out where it came from...

Could be the leak from HTC's Official 2.3 release that's coming up?

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
Maybe he's from HTC... here under the guise of giving us new radio but secretly looking into how they can build better official ROMs based on the likes of LeeDrOiD, ARHD, CoreDroid etc.

Wishful thinking... :p
[Desire HD General] :
A little bit OT (so apologies) - but how do you test the GPS fix time.

here is what i do:

1. Flash Radio, flash rom, wipe all

2. basic setup, setup accounts etc

3. Reboot

4. Download (restore) GPS Status from market.

5. Launch application

a) observe if/that AGPS data is being downloaded.

b) usually, you should see GPS sats within 1-2 seconds (1-2), then you can see the AGPS data kicking in, and the sats increase from 2 to 7-12 almost instantly. If it counts them up one by one, this is NOT AGPS but a normal GPS search-and-lock behavior. Sometimes you can also see "good" AGPS when the signal strenght bars are pretty high and not red or yellow. I never get yellow/red bars with correctly working AGPS, only when it is down to "GPS" without assistance for locking sats

c) the signal then locks. It shouldnt take more than 10 sec from cold start (wiped rom) until you aquire and lock if you have decent sky coverage for the DHD to see them

d) this is the important part. leave settings as default (only download AGPS data every other day)

e) then once you changed position (do not stay put to judge GPS as it will use the last fix position to re-aquire Sat) try again. It should not take longer than a couple of secs and show you 6-9 or more sats.

if ANY of this doent work right, there is an issue.

Let me know how you guys test so we are comparing apples to apples.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Forgot the most important one.... CM7!

All they should do really is take latest release of CM7 and add sense 2.1 or 3.0 to it then release two Official ROMs, one with sense and one without.

Would be the best rom ever lol :D
[Desire HD General] peste76:
Have the new one on CM7 a few hours. Reception not enough tested, but drain seems to be a lot higher (few high peaks). Maybe i make a calibration today & wipe dalvik. Let´s test it this weekend.
[Desire HD General] directorfer:
My two cent: I'm running LeeDroid 2.2.3 (with his latest kernal 2.2.9); so far within my tests, radio 26.04.03.30_M gives me the best GPS connection and strength. I've also tested 26.08.04.07_M3, 26.06.03.24_M2, 26.06.04.06_M, and 26.04.02.17_M2_SF
[Desire HD General] Dands:
Reading the reports posted here it just seems the higher the second number in the version the better the signal and the higher the battery drain.

Radio_12.48. has great reception but high battery drain

Radio_12.41. lower values than above

Radio_12.35. lower values still than above

Radio_12.28. lower values of all.

The variances in values can be minimal but it's still there. Also using 12.48 on a great reception area I would imagine would give the best results.

Just my thoughts.
[Desire HD General] clouds5:
First impression on the new Radio Radio_12.48.60.23U_26.08.04.07_M3:

It got me a GPS fix in 10secs _inside_ my house. Found only 6 satellites, but wow! I never found any satellites at all with any radio I tested so far when I was inside my house.

Signal Strength seems very similar to Radio_12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07 that i used before.
[Desire HD General] dazza_84:
Can I please ask what an acceptable rate of battery loss is please???

I'm running rcmix hd v5.9 and after full charge and wiping my batt stats, Its gone down to 87% within 20 mins, my 3g is on and I've been looking on this forum.

I was wondering if that was acceptable or maybe I should flash a new radio?

Thank you
[Desire HD General] mdeejay:
12.48.60.23U_26.08.04.07_M3 awesome
[Desire HD General] DanteGR:
I have a question.

Is there a way to do a backup of the radio I have now?

The reason I am asking is because I can't seem to find it either by googling or in this thread and it would be a good idea to have it as a backup for warranty reasons right?

I am currently on the one that came pre-installed on my phone the 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.15_M3.

Thanks in advance!
[Desire HD General] eliashadow:
Νο mate...There is no that possibility...;)
[Desire HD General] Tombias:
Try the latest radio. It helped me a lot.
[Desire HD General] Nik0la:
Acceptable loss for me is about 0.5% per hour. I'm using 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test and CM7 RC4 with mobile data and sync on
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
+1

Yeah that's about right for me as well. Even with my radio setup.

Nik0la:

Maybe rom is the problem, not the radio ;)

Flash CM7-RC4, its the only way to fully customize your phone the way you want.

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Double post....
[Desire HD General] djamorpheus:
Its strange, I was using the latest radio and was getting 1ma with mobile data and sync on, then I flashed an older radio for some reason and with the same configuration was getting 24ma so I flashed back and now in airplane mode I can't even get it lower than 6, what gives?
[Desire HD General] dazza_84:
Oh so it could actually be the rom that's not compatible with my phone? Cos I'm trying the newest radio and seem to be dropping 1-2% every 5-10 mins, so is cm7 just another rom?
[Desire HD General] stuart0001:
I assume the phone isn't being used to get that drain
[Desire HD General] Locster126:
Losing 1% every 5minutes is pretty normal with the screen on, 3g or WiFi and browsing around. It's pretty much the same on all ROM's
[Desire HD General] Nik0la:
Off course it's not used. I'm talking about overnight drain
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Did you remember to wipe battery stats after full charge?

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Try using the radio that the rom developer recommends. If you really wanna stick with RCMIX that is...

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] djamorpheus:
I did and its still at 5ma with mobile data and sync when screen is off where before it would be at 1
[Desire HD General] Xybirium:
That's what I usually get.
[Desire HD General] KeyperOS:
I am pretty sure the Greek HTC DHDs came with version 1.32.405.6 preinstalled and with the CID set to HTC_N34 [that's the CID code for Greece, limiting the languages to Ελληνικά and English (Greece) ].

That version comes with Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M, I never heard of a M3.

When I had to return it for warranty purposed I reverted the ROM to 1.32.405.3 and then let it update itself to 1.32.405.6 using HTC's OTA update.

Both the original ROM as well as the OTA update include their own recovery, bootloader and radio so you're sure you have what you need.
[Desire HD General] DubelBoom:
i got alot of times an wired error when flashing radio:

but after i reboot my radio changes,

something to worry about?
[Desire HD General] Wiingy:
Hey, I flashed Radio_12.48.60.23U_26.08.04.07_M3 last night on my Inspire. Weird thing is, i look under settings, baseband, it is showing it as -

I have seen the U and the P before, never seen the H, is everything normal.

I flashed the radio first and noticed it was a H, then i flashed the ROM, then re-flashed the radio.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
Why did you reflashed the radio ?

Sent from Pluto
[Desire HD General] Wiingy:
Hrm, i always reflash the radio after the rom if the radio isn't the recommended one for that rom.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
But if you flashed the radio first then the Rom there is no reason to flash the same radio again

Sent from Pluto
[Desire HD General] XL3N7:
@OP

Can you edit the thread title to reflect the latest version?

i.e. HTC Desire HD radio thread [Latest xx/xx/xxxx]

Thanks
[Desire HD General] dashrink:
@ M-dejay

Are u the same m-dejay from hd2 forum?
[Desire HD General] leith51:
That would be unwise as its for all radios not just latest one

Sent from Pluto
[Desire HD General] muhsli:
I agree.

IF it should be changed, it should be to something like "HTC Desire HD radio thread [Updated xx.xx.xx]"

Though, I think it's perfect the way it is..
[Desire HD General] dazza_84:
well ive just calibrated my battery and its now been off charge for nearly 2 hours and its only dropped 1% :-), i havent been using it.

before i calibrated it, it was dropping 1% every 10-15 mins in standby mode.

so very happy at the minute, hope it continues
[Desire HD General] XL3N7:
I never said that it isn't. "Latest" is just a suggestion. He could use updated, newer, newest, op updated, whatever he wishes. My point is it would be wiser to let us know there is a newer radio out there. Much more efficient as a radio thread IMHO as many of us don't check it everyday. That way we will know there is a new radio without checking the op all the time.
[Desire HD General] DanteGR:
Thanks for your answer mate!

Well I bought the DHD from the internet that's why I have the M3 version ;)

Anyway could somebody please tell me how to calibrate my battery correctly?

I am asking this cause I have read this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=755903&page=56

Is this the right way or should I just fully charge the battery then wipe battery stats and dalvik cache and then perform 2-3 charge/discharge cycles?

Thanks in advance :)
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
It's a lot simpler than that.

Charge your phone, unplug, reboot, charge again till full then unplug and reboot again. When fully charged again, delete batterystats.bin or wipe battery stats in recovery.

Reboot, charge again till 100% then you are good to go!

;)

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] Whiskey103:
Extra info: use current widget from market and wait till it shows 0mA.

Because the green LED turns on when the device is not complete full yet.

Sent from my Desire HD using Smoke Signals, Morse Code and Pigeon Post.
[Desire HD General] DanteGR:
Thanks!

But I lost you after the FIRST full-stop.

You said "... reboot again. When fully charged ......." So after this reboot I plug it in once more till it's 100%?
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Yes then you reboot and charge the 3rd time, when thats done wipe battery stats. Reboot and finally charge to 100% one last time then you can use your phone. Knowing that you will get best battery life out of it.

;)
[Desire HD General] DanteGR:
Thanks geko!

Does dalvik cache have anything to do with this procedure? Do I have to wipe it too cause I read so in another thread...
[Desire HD General] eliashadow:
Can i asked smthing?

The calibration must be done every time we changing radio or/and rom???
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
You don't need to wipe dalvik cache if you are calibrating battery.

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
If you want to get the best out of your battery life then yes.

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] DanteGR:
@eliashadow

I think so mate cause I flashed Coredroid 5.1 at 9am this morning and by 3pm my battery was at 12% and that was mostly on standby...

With Coredroid 5.0 my battery was lasting at least 24 hours....

I use the same radio as you by the way :)
[Desire HD General] DanteGR:
Hey geko did calibrate the battery exactly the way you said.

I'm at 90% after 30 minutes since unplugged and most of it only on standby...

Is that normal??
[Desire HD General] P00t:
which RADIO is the best anyone can suggest me?

please link. im confused about which one to choose.. too many.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Sounds like you only just flashed your radio, so it will take at least 2 days to gain full effect with regards to battery life.

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Use the one recommended for your ROM ;)

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] istinet:
It depends on which rom you want to use. The best is to check the roms thread for the recommended radio.
[Desire HD General] stuart0001:
Does the performance really improve over time if so how can it? I'm genuinely curious as to what changes happen
[Desire HD General] KeyperOS:
I think it has to do with the radio being trained on your specific network, signal strength, connection type etc...
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Quite right.

Adapt would be a better word though. Basically it learns how you use your phone, what kind of signal you have with your network. Also how good your battery can keep its charge, hence you should recalibrate every time you flash new radio.

Thats it really, usually it takes about 2 - 3 days for radio to fully bed in.

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] P00t:
so my phone is on CoreDroid v5.1 right now and i just flashed

12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M - (HTC Ace Gingerbread S Generic 2.25.0.0)

this one. i guess this will give me the best results now!?

:D
[Desire HD General] borneanheadhunter:
used Radio_12.48.60.23U_26.08.04.07_M3.. works great with my ARHD 3.3 + 1.3.8 OC+ Sense kernel... areas where previously with no HSDPA/ 3G (eg. meeting room in the office) now have stable connection. GPS lock under 15 seconds and stay locked.
[Desire HD General] DanteGR:
After the calibration is there a specific pattern that should be followed concerning charging/discharging for the first 2-3 times? I mean like letting the phone discharge completely before charging again etc..

Have charged the phone 2 more times since calibration but haven't seen any improvement at all yet :(
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
What rom are you using?

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] DanteGR:
I am using CoreDroid 5.1 Geko
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Are you using the recommended radio?

How long has it been since you flashed it?

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Use the recommended radio, or pm the dev and ask what is the best radio to use..

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] DanteGR:
I am using the radio in my sig mate and it is the one that many many CD 5.1 users are running with great results...

I flashed the radio on Saturday morning and the 5.1 ROM on Sunday morning.

Thanks for taking the time to help me mate :)
[Desire HD General] Dands:
I find it a bit funny all you guys using a radio not knowing where it came from.

Radio_12.48.60.23U_26.08.04.07_M3

Still your choice.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Sorry mate, I can't see sigs. Im on the xda app lol.

Ok, well sounds like the radio should be adapted to your usage and your rom soon.

A lot of people may be using it but remember that every location is different and hardware is different as well. So if this radio doesn't do as good as you expect just try another one.

I flashed and tested like 5 radios before I found one that works best for me.

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
I'm not using it lol.

Anyways I think its a leak from an official HTC Desire S rom.

Proudly swyped with my HTC DESIRE HD XDA App.
[Desire HD General] DanteGR:
I am in the same location as many others that are using it so that should not be a problem.

As for the hardware part I dunno.

Anyway I'll give it another day or two and then try a different one maybe.

If I flash a new radio now doing the battery calibration as you have described previously is there anything else I should do? Wiping cache and the like?

Btw my curent radio is 12.48.60.23P_26.08.04.07_M3.

Thanks again :)