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[G Tablet Accessories] it2steve:
I am working to get anything and everything possible here is the states. From what I know those 'shell' cases aren't complete yet. I have a couple of docks and I am expecting a few leather (or PU) cases in a couple weeks. I try to lay low until I actually have firm knowledge or something in my hand as not to create false expectation.

Hope that make sense?
[G Tablet Accessories] DrPaulR:
I would love one of those plastic shell cases. Whoever is working on these ought to consider putting some type of stand in the case, similar to the Archos 101.
[G Tablet Accessories] pyro530:
Any news on this Steve. I see that one supplier has them listed on Alibaba, but after contacting them, they said they were looking for a new supplier.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] ksporry:
Guys,

The following link shows a very fancy home page:

http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-x/114611-home-screens-launcherpro-screen-shots.html

Its been done with LauncherPro.

Basically it has an iPad kind of look to it, and I like that. I installed LauncherPro 0.8.2 but the home page doesn't look like it. Can anyone tell me how I can get that same view on my gTablet, preferably without having to do a new ROM flash...?

EDIT:

Just found out there are preferences that allow you to set this with LauncherPro...
[Dash 3G, Snap General] zheny:
can htc snap use the trackball of blackberry
[Dash 3G, Snap General] zheny:
that is true snap can use the trackball of blackberryArrow
[Dash 3G, Snap General] reza_rose:
whats happen to ur trackball

?

yes u can use but u can fix then change it!
[Dash 3G, Snap General] zheny:
it dosen't work,so i boy a bb trackball and replace the snap's ,and it work good ,
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Title says it all. I can confirm that gingerbread renders everything in gorgeous 32-bit colors!!!!!!

For example, the weather channel app would look like crap, now it looks great.

Wallpapers look STUNNING.

Press and hold the home button to open the recent used apps menu, notice how the black blackground is blending in so nicely. on 2.2 it looks like crap.

Edit: Screenshots up. XDA Adds a lot of compression to both photos but you can still tell the difference.
[EVO 4G General] King_tee:
Cant wait to see this
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
anyone else able to confirm this? and what program did you use to determine its rendering in 32bit? just wondering
[EVO 4G General] jm5503:
This is correct....
[EVO 4G General] thlinx:
ha I remember you talking about this on IRC.. Good find!
[EVO 4G General] Systemfraud:
That's freaking amazing! I can't wait! Are you running gingerbread on your EVO?
[EVO 4G General] notmike:
I don't understand why this required Gingerbread to resolve it? but i'm looking forward to no more color banding in wallpapers either way
[EVO 4G General] -shift-:
as a graphics guy, this is probably the best bit of news to come out of the whole gingerbread smorgasbord of news...

utterly awesome!
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Yes, I was running gingerbread alpha 3. It's still pretty buggy and with a lot of things missing so I just went back to stock 3.70.

My eyes :p

I also just wanted to clarify that our EVOs always had this capability, but only Android 2.3 renders everything in 32-bit color. It's all software.
[EVO 4G General] thetakara:
Show me something that actually says it's really in 32-bit color and I'll believe it. Or you can post the pictures you had posted earlier somewhere else so it doesn't compress them.
[EVO 4G General] ajpatel:
yes, indeed! i was about to write off gingerbread as a waste of my time but now it can't get here fast enough...

Myn get back from your cruise already and integrate gingerbread builds into warm 2.2!
[EVO 4G General] rockky:
God I hate when people do this...

I for one believe him... why not. And if it turns out not to be the case so be it. He's been RUNNING GB.....

QUOTE=thetakara;9915297]Show me something that actually says it's really in 32-bit color and I'll believe it. Or you can post the pictures you had posted earlier somewhere else so it doesn't compress them.[/QUOTE]
[EVO 4G General] devonparrish:
Yeah totally. He has no reason to lie about it. So why not just take his word for it? We're all here to help each other out
[EVO 4G General] cnstarz:
intelligence is overrated.

http://bit.ly/fSLf4v
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
I went ahead and flashed the alpha 2.3 and honestly saw NO DIFFERENCE in color reproduction.

I know all the places online say the gingerbread renders in 32 bit but I believe its only certain apps and screens that are actually in 32 bit. I could be wrong though

sent from my DAMN EVO
[EVO 4G General] thetakara:
I'll rephrase my response, since it wasn't what I meant. The evo 4g isn't capable of displaying 32-bit color. :P

And my response wasn't meant to be disrespectful. I'm simply asking for a source isn't of just saying that he used "his eyes".
[EVO 4G General] CarterF:
Hmm, can't see the difference, must be my display.
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Use it a little bit more and you will certainly notice the difference. For example, check out wallpapers and how there is NO color banding effect.

I wouldn't have posted if I had not noticed such difference. Again, it's a subtle effect most apparent in apps like the Weather channel. If you're in doubt, run it on gingerbread then do the same on Froyo, then come tell me you can't see a difference.
[EVO 4G General] :
Hey if u find out he is plz tell me
[EVO 4G General] Android 17:
This is pretty cool. I've been excited for a GB, but not as much as others around here, however, this certainly makes me more anxious for it :D
[EVO 4G General] thetakara:
Do people still not understand that the evo is not capable of 32 bit color? It's nice that it is supported and all, but our screens are just lacking in that department.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The EVO has a 65k display so it'd be impossible for it to display anything higher than a 16 bit color depth. I don't know what the older color depth was on <Android 2.3 but if it was lower than 16 bit, you'd still see a improvement.
[EVO 4G General] awesomerobot:
I've seen more than a few threads that say the EVO is capable of 24bit color, though it's debatable and could possible depend on the panel? I've seen people say that the Novateks are definitely 24, but no confirmation on the Epsons.

http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/118348-evidence-htc-evo-4g-sports-24-bit-display-not-16-bit.html

also, CNET says 24bit

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20010061-85.html

Definitely not 32 though, you're right.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Interesting that Sprint initially listed it as 65k/16bit.
[EVO 4G General] Raadius:
Awesome news!

I make custom themes for my phone and I hate the wallpaper banding look, it's ugly. Ugh. I need Gingerbread noooow!
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
It's true, it seems like the EVO is only capable of 24 bit colors. However, there is NO noticeable difference between 24-bit and 32-bit color for an average person working on a regular LCD. As wikipedia says:

I also remember reading that 24-bit is also more efficient on the CPU.

So this is still great news :)
[EVO 4G General] :
I was about to start a new thread before I found this one. I agree it must be a hardware limitation. To my eyes I still see color banding in color gradients. Bitmap images remain unchanged with Gingerbread.

It's unfortunate, I was hoping for a better graphical experience on my Evo, but the hardware limitation won't allow image rendering in 32 bits.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
So far every other source that I've looked up says the EVOs display is 16 bit. CNET's source also has no mention of 24 bit ion their site either.
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
What hardware limitation?!

[youtube]4iqJYjh7NVk[/youtube]
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
That looks like the HTC gallery app dithers when fully zoomed out and un-dithers when out of the full view (zoomed in). He very slightly zooms in and it begins to noticeably band in 24 bit and on a 4.3" display? Nah, that's not right. Try it on your computer.

Edit: I'm 99% sure that it dithers in full view. Either the app only displays 24 bit color in full view and then knocks down to 16 bit when you zoom in (which makes absolutely no sense) or it dithers.
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Huh?! Did you watch the video at all?! With sound?! Your post made no sense whatosever.

Also on Twitter:

PikkonX

@cyanogen just read that the Evo can display 32 bit colors with G, which gets rid of the color banding in some apps. Any truth to that?

19 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Cyanogen Answered:

@PikkonX it always could, but apps had to request it. We're seeing the new code exposing GL driver bugs in some cases.

18 hours ago via Touiteur Favorite Retweet Reply
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Read my edit. The app dithered. I'm sure of it.

Now to what you said.

Can 2.3 display 32 bit images now? Yup, it's one of the new improvements. So what exactly did Cyanogen find out? Sounds like he confirmed that the Adreno 200 GPU can display a 32 bit 800x480 resolution. I can believe that. The question is: can the EVO's display output that image in 32bit color? I bet Cyanogen doesn't have the equipment to test that and if you ask him on Twitter he'll probably confirm the same.

Edit: Now that I think about it, if the EVO's display is in fact limited to 16 bit color, Android 2.3 brings in more graphics acceleration, AND Google/HTC updates the GPU drivers, we might as well try to find a way to force a 16 bit color mode and gain some extra performance. I personally don't care; I mean, I'd love to have a 32 bit display with a insane GPU but I wouldn't mind a 16 bit image that improves the performance of the aging Adreno 200 GPU. Hell, even if the display is in fact 24 bit and is unlocked with 2.3, I'd still want someone to create a tweak that did that. The EVO is a nice phone I just hate the GPU; this just might alleviate parts of that issue.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Just to add to this:

Create a 480x800 24-bit PNG with a 100% red to 100% black gradient in Photoshop. View it on your computer monitor which is likely to be several times larger than the EVO's 4.3" display - thus it'd be like zooming in multiple times on the EVO. Do you see banding like you saw in the video when he zoomed in by like a minuscule 5%? Nope. You know why? Because the EVO wasn't displaying a dithered 16 bit image anymore.
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
First of all; I'll ask again: Did you watch the video in its entirety? Did you hear his commentary? There was no banding when the image was zoomed in at 100%, but there WAS banding when he zoomed in to 101%(Yes, around one percent.), showing this is a SOFTWARE issue.

He then proceeds to use a loupe on the screen to see individual pixels, and he mentions there is no dithering whatsoever. His words, not mine. This is a guy with 20 years of experience in imaging.

Also, check out this scientific test done by CNET: http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20010061-85.html

So, after all the scientific evidence presented by professionals using professional equipment, are you still gonna tell me that you're sure the app dithered because you used photoshop? :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] thetakara:
I highly doubt that HTC will update any drivers for the EVO.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The Nexus One is getting updated Adreno 200 GPU drivers from Google, HTC or both. Guess what GPU the EVO uses.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I did see the whole video and what you explained is what makes me suspicious. Why is there banding at a 101% zoom? Is it that the app suddenly jumps to a 16 bit color mode when scaling towards it's natural dimensions? Or could it be that when it's zoomed out completely to fill the screen that it also dithers the image. Which is the more obvious answer? Hmmmm....

CNET did the same very unscientific test (next time read you source more carefully) as the guy in the video. They eyeballed for banding on a gradient and probably used the same HTC gallery app that I'm telling you is almost definitely dithering.

Every other source references to a 16 bit display but I'm suppose to believe in eye balling from a app that has a weird behavior that looks like dithering. Sure.
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Did you not read what cyanogen said? Android always had the capability to render in 32-bit, but apps have to request it. Its obvious that the gallery app is requesting 32-bit rendering , but releases it once you zoom it. That is the most ovious answer!

Wait wait wait, isn't it a bit ironic that you're blasting them for doing unscientific tests and "eyeballing", yet you are sure the evo is dithering because you used photoshop on your COMPUTER using a DIFFERENT SCREEN?

The fact is, your photoshop test was the only unscientic test done. Cnet used imaging equipment, and the guy on the video speaks with authority on the subject. Do you?

Also, dithering is very easy to spot. Check google for some samples. There is NO dithering going on in the gallery app.

Dont mean to be rude or anything, but I just think youre in denial.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Indenial of what? I own a EVO, I have no incentive to be against it. It's the other way around.

Anyway, read the article, those tests were not done with equipment. They were done by eyeballing. Look, I don't 100% doubt that the EVO may possibly have a 24 bit display, I'm just pointing out the problems with what you showed.
[EVO 4G General] TorxT3D:
thank goodness, this is something ive hated since windows mobile.
[EVO 4G General] patelkedar91:
HTC does use some weird hardware sometimes.

I was originally hating on my Evo screen because it was 16bit. But then I got over it.

I was more annoyed by the weak GPU and how HTC won't update drivers.

Dell and Acer phones with similar GPU (and resolution) and weaker CPU received higher 3d benchmark scores.

So if Gingerbread ups our 3d performance I'll love it cause I have some Gameloft games that run like crap. If it makes our displays magically better (doesn't make sense cause this doesn't seem like its software related) then I'll love that too.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I'm being hopeful with what 2.3 brings to the GPU. I'm not going to hold my breath waitng for HTC to officially support the EVO for 2.3. But on a good note the Nexus One is being updated with new drivers and that means that we'll be getting them through at least unofficial channels. Add on the fact that Gingerbread brings some core graphic performance enhancements and we might see something noticeable.
[EVO 4G General] Tiffany84:
I don't know a whole lot about this topic but I can say I notice a huge difference on how my evo looks and performs running gingerbread and its only going to get better:-).....
[EVO 4G General] Ruki_Uki:
Can anyone post side by side comparison pictures??

Sent from my EVO's 4G :) You?........I thought so
[EVO 4G General] Pierceye:
Not sure if this is anything to get excited about, but I was just on the phone with HTC and the rep indicated that the update for 2.3 is ready on their end. They are just waiting for Sprint to give the go-ahead on the OTA. From what he said it would likely be January/February when we see it, and it should also include the Sense 2.0. He might have just been blowing smoke, but hey, it's something worth looking forward to! I also seem to remember an article a few weeks ago stating something along the lines of Samsung and Google asking(begging) HTC and Sprint to hold off on a pre-Christmas release. They wanted the Nexus S to have at least a moment in the sun, and if Sprint had released Gingerbread that soon it would have swamped the Nexus launch. Probably just rumor-mill crap. Time will tell.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I kind of doubt this. The Nexus One doesn't even have Gingerbread yet and that's pretty much straight from the source without any additional (skins) modifications needed. You really think 2.3 with Sense for the EVO is ready? CES is right around the corner and HTC will probably be announcing a wave of NEW phones that probably still run on 2.2. I'm also sure that if they are still on 2.2 (which is likely), they'll focus on bringing 2.3 to the newer phones first and then to the EVO if at all.
[EVO 4G General] jyan_osu:
I am stopping by the HTC booth in between appointments at CES next week and have talked with Eric Lin before so I can ask him about the screen and such.
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
Does this mean that this 32bit rendering can be applied to other roms that aren't gingerbread like myn, or miui???
[Galaxy Tab General] mmathai77:
Has anyone here sent in their SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB for repair/reflash to Samsung?

Perferably SPRINT customers?

Any tips?

How long did it take you - from ship out date to receive date

Did they give you a refurb one? or did they just reflash the software?
[Galaxy Tab General] mmathai77:
Anyone want to tell me how I can.unroot my galaxy tab nd BRICK IT. O_o

Sounds weird.but im sending it in for a reflash to samsung. I know how to unroot it but ill need it bricked again so they can reflash it with stock firmware when they receive it. I feel like it's hard to brick it unrooted. Any ideas?

I know this sounds dumb. Its just that sprint does' t have a recovery rom available. The one.in these boards mess up the gps. I told samsung mine goes in a bootloop.

I cant have it bricked and ROOTED because then if they realize its rooted theyll likely void the warrenty.

Thanks everyone.
[Galaxy Tab General] CinGioDroid:
I just got mine back yesterday from samsung , I'm with Tmo though, honestly if it wasn't because the rep from tmo had me on the line while she talked to the rep at samsung i wouldn't be able to get anywhere with them. Samsung's customer service SUCKS soooooo badly. Anyway, the rep at tmo basically open up a ticket for "exchange" which samsung "doesn't do anymore" they just have them send in through UPS , they make it sound like they will repair but I actually got another one with totally different IMEI number. they are quick though, I print out the UPS label from the email they sent me with Ticket number, sent it and a week after is here.... man i never thought i was gonna love this gadget this much, just glad i gad it back after i bricked it flashing.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stavros86:
Hi, i have a question,does nexus s have fm radio on board like nexus one but it isnt enabled by software or it doesnt have at all?samsung galaxy s has fm radio so it should have if it isnt ripped from the board by google.Maybe with ripped apk from galaxy s rom should work here too??
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ztm.000:
Well the Galaxy S line also has support for 720p video recording, but the Nexus S does not. So who knows. I was checking out the teardown from ifixit and it doesn't look like there are a lot of components on the board itself. I could be terribly wrong, but it looked very minimalistic and simple.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kalagas:
I think Radio is not there...

But i am wondering why all people asks things that google never advertised...

The phone doesn't record on 720p, doesn't have radio etc etc...

We all must understand that Nexus S is most of a developer phone and google sell it to show what pure gingerbread can do....

So please to search reasons to buy or not....

All people asking for facillities that don't exist....

This is the phone....

If you want a phone to shoot 720p video, to have radio, to have led notification, to have metallic body etc etc, this isn't your phone...

If you want a phone with quick and very good support for Google and community, a phone with pure Android gingerbread, a full unlocked and Open Source phone to play with, then this phone is the only choice you have...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dc211:
Both the N1 and NS have the same chip (BCM4329) which has both FM TX & RX on the chip. I sure in time they will get the FM radio working.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ztm.000:
Awesome man, had no idea. :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JupiterDroid:
Cy has already written the code to get it working on the N1, as soon as CM6 is merged into gingerbread we will have a great FM radio;)))

JD
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
I am wondering why people jump in with non-responsive posts. People ask questions because they don't know something and haven't found the answer by other means (assuming they looked). How does a response like yours help move the conversation forward.

The phone has a thousand features in it, and only a couple of dozen advertised. Should we assume that the 900+ features that aren't advertised don't exist and therefore are a reason not to buy the phone.

The Nexus One hardware supported FM radio reception, but Google did not put it in there; we had to wait for the hackers to add it. See this post.

It's certainly reasonable, in my opinion, to ask if the Nexus S, which many think is basically just a slightly modified Galaxy S (which supports FM radio) can do so, and if it's as simple as adding an apk from another Galaxy S device.

To the original poster, I don't know the answer, but if I were interested enough to do a little research, I'd google the ifixit teardown of the Nexus S, then see what radio chip it uses, and if that particular chip has FM radio capability. If it does, it's just a matter of time before some enterprising dev adds it in. Probably not as simple as installing an apk, there are most likely driver and/or kernel changes necessary to get it functioning.

edit: I see others have already looked that up. I've NEVER used FM radio on my N1 or SGS, but nice to know that it might be there someday, just in case. ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
Because the nexus one was said to not have radio, but after long we now have fully working f m radio on the nexus one. So why not do the same with the nexus s?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vkb.mech:
Yes. the Nexus S indeed has FM capabilities, courtesy, the BCM4329 chip inside
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trystan2k:
And do you think that with some code it will be possible to Nexus S video recording 720p as Nexus One ?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
Yes, and no. There's allegedly a bandwidth bottleneck in the hardware on the NS that the GS doesn't have; so while 720p is possible, it will be at fewer frames per second if/when we get it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
for as cool as it can be to have the FM radio like the SGS... i still ponder what is the point of it?

i know i know, just for the sake of having it, and the very rare occassion you will actually use, when you use your wired headphones....

but i've owned the SGS for 4+ month, i've only used it ONCE in the entire time, and it was only to check if it was working or not, and the people complaining the FM radio sounded like MONO (which was actually a code bug, and not hardware deficiency)

in this age of MP3 and AC3 and POT CAST, Streaming Radio stations (3G/WiFi) play backs... a good old authentic FM radio (which will not work if you are not using a wired headphone) has fallen into a "novelty" category, instead of a "cool feature" category as it was in the past.

if they could make the FM radio work without the wired headphones, and be able to Stream the FM audio via bluetooth, then that will really be Enjoyable and cool

:cool:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
LOL, I just disagreed with you on something else in another thread, but on this topic, we're on the same page. I've also only used my FM radio on the SGS once, and just to see if it worked.

Now, if it offered HD radio service and some of the offset digital channels, it might get more use out of me. Seriously, I'd be more likely to use a built-in radio if it were AM for news and talk radio. For music, too many better options available to us on the data-connected phone.

Still, if the hardware's there, nice to be able to use it if you wanted.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andreyb051:
FM TX

It would be nice to transmit your music to the FM - for the car stereo.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eahiv:
Would love to see FM radio

I used the radio on my n1 all the time running. I loved it and was assuming it wasn't there in the ns. I hope we get it soon!