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[Defy Android Development] pdjm43:
Hi, it seems everyone is using the UK file and there is a fix to change the phones band to get 3G working.
[Defy Android Development] xdamage:
Worked fine for me.. I think. Installed with SU permissions, rebooted into reovery and seletced 12.17.2010, is there any way to verify Im running the mod like in settings or does it change anything at all?
[Defy Android Development] Sorensiim:
Great work man, Beer money incoming from Denmark, better make it a Carlsberg ;)

Edit: Direct download european (30mbit) mirror here: Http://www.sorensiim.dk/stuff/defy/defy_recovery-1216-2022-signed.apk
[Defy Android Development] h5u:
Thank you very much
[Defy Android Development] Passa91:
Awesome, great work!

Noobish question.. I understand this is only a first step to full custom ROMs - does anyone know if the Defy ships with eFuse like the Milestone & Droid X? Being locked to the 2.1 kernel is going to be a pretty huge bummer.
[Defy Android Development] pjcons:
Got it working thanks! Hey does the SD Car Partition work properly from the Advanced menu? I tried it, and it said it worked, how do I check if it actually worked and can put apps to SD?
[Defy Android Development] bschuele:
Make a backup, mount SD card on PC and check for the goapkrev dir

sent from my moto defy with taptalk
[Defy Android Development] Khrushy:
Great stuff, but I'm finding it very hit and miss.

If I install the Custom Recovery, it works, and I can reboot to the recovery menu the first time.

After that, if I try to reboot to the Custom Recovery again later, I go into bootloop. I've repeated this process (flashing back to a stock ROM each time) three times now, and it happens consistently.
[Defy Android Development] Le_Poilu:
Seems that everobody tried to go in recevory a second time have bootloop...

I've gone one time, but dont want to try a second shoot now :p
[Defy Android Development] Higgsy:
yeah same here had to reflash like 4 times today, each time i can get back into the recovery and restore my backup, then when trying to get back into the recovery get a bootloop (motoblur/black screen/motoblur). hopefully tenfar will look into this and sort it out
[Defy Android Development] bschuele:
I had started the recovery multiple time...

Did you give the recovery permanent root right?

I had not, but notice a try to get root on startup.

sent from my moto defy with taptalk
[Defy Android Development] Higgsy:
to be honest mine was fine until i restored a backup. trying to work out whats causing it, but getting very bored of reflashing lol
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
View attachment defy_recovery-1218-0326-signed.apk

This is the bugfixed version
[Defy Android Development] Higgsy:
good lad thanks
[Defy Android Development] Higgsy:
Should we have adb root access in recovery mode?
[Defy Android Development] Mo.Joe:
Is there something to consider when updateing? Should I install the Recovery System a second time?

Thank you for your hard work!

Mo
[Defy Android Development] DoubleUPi:
was a little bit shocked! :eek:

after installing the new file i went into recovery boot... and got a "white noise" screen. i thought "omg, what the f..." :confused::mad:

but after a few (very long) seconds, i was in boot recovery and made a backup.

so long everything worked fine. but right now, i didnt try it a second time.
[Defy Android Development] shamo42:
Thanks! Works as it should :)
[Defy Android Development] Dalamak:
works great, glad to see this device getting attention
[Defy Android Development] Khrushy:
Wonderful Tenfar! The fixed version is working perfectly for me now ^^
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
I am trying to get adb root access. using 2nd-init method. hope me lucky enough......:D . i've flashed my defy at least 50 times......for testing.. LOL
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
you need to install the Recovery System only if you reflash a sbf format firmware or reflash a rom.
[Defy Android Development] Mo.Joe:
Thank you for this information.
[Defy Android Development] chaihg:
Biologist into modding

Hi Higgsy and Tenfar,

I have been following ur works from a few months silently watching every second of your work. Thank you for the wonderful work. hey Higgsy, I am a sort of fan now. Keep it up.

As the title says I am a biologist and know very little of techie stuff. So one clarification.

I rooted the device and have overclocked it (that seems to be my major accomplishment). Now all I do is download ROM Manager from app market and then install the tenfar clockwork mod recovery (thru the ROM manager right?). Then I make a nandroid backup after rebooting into recovery. Then can i start putting in roms and start loading them (like the just released blurless gingerbread ROM). Is all this right. Can I go ahead with the step or have I missed something.

Thanks in advance.
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
ROM Manager is Koush's product. i dont know does he put my clockwork mod in his sources.
[Defy Android Development] Dalamak:
I'm sure it will come to Rom manager, maybe if we contact and show donation support
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
it's very easy for him to make a working recovery from his source. what need to do is just change some souce code.I will complie a pure clockwork mod for him.if he need.
[Defy Android Development] chaihg:
Errr. . i think my question was lost. So if not for ROM manager how does one get the recovery specific to defy into this. Is it just a straight install of what Tenfar has done and then boot into recovery to finally go into nandroid backup mode?
[Defy Android Development] bschuele:
yep,

1. install tenfar's recovery apk

2. run the system recovery

3. select "Install Recovery System"

4. select "Recovery Boot"

that boots into the recovery with nandroid backup
[Defy Android Development] chaihg:
Isnt it easy to push it into ROM Manager. Koushik gives a procedure on how to do it http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/03/rom-manager-and-third-party-roms.html

Just in case Tenfar wants to do it. If not its fine I got my problem solved. Thanks
[Defy Android Development] chaihg:
Thanks a ton buddy. :D
[Defy Android Development] chaihg:
So there are Cache, Nandroid, system, data files. But it gave a message that some ext app not done to sd card. Is this alright? Interestingly I dint find any option called Nandroid there main menu. Do i have a nandroid backup now.
[Defy Android Development] Khrushy:
That's it, you have a backup.

Don't worry about the "ext app not done to SD" message.
[Defy Android Development] gambitvbi:
Anyone can tell me if it is possible to recover the original recovery sistem? In spain the defy is customized by vodafone and we haven't the original rom to flash. There are some problems with the speaker, so if we have to send the phone to the tech service we could have problems, so I have two questions:

1.- Can you reflash only the original recovery without flashing all the phone with the stock rom and how can we do it.

2.- Are recoverys different by region version?

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] switchgott:
Hi,question to all.

Is it possible with this recovery rom, to install a custom rom on our defy with

new kernel and several tweaks?

Or only the kernel from motorola rom?

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] schwarzlichtkind:
Same question here:

I´m a noob concerning Motorola and their encrypted bootloader. I really like the DEFY and would like to buy it, but the lack of customisation thanks to the lockdown is a dealbreaker for me.

So is it possible to flash heavyly modded custom roms via this recovery?

And does it work for the german O2 version of the DEFY? (Is there anybody who can confirm?)
[Defy Android Development] desillusion:
i am from switzerland and using the defy with orange. o2 is not avaiable here so no concrete information regarding this.

the bootloader mentioned in this thread works perfect. you first need to root the phone with z4 (app) and then install the system recovery app + bootloader.

you then may install any rom - problem is, there are only 2 avaiable right now. others coming. encryption is broken afaik.
[Defy Android Development] switchgott:
Realy broken??

I can´t belive that now you can install all rom will coming with every avalible kernel on market!

Why no one is creating a 2.2 oder 2.3 ROM?

For Desire there are now the 2.3 ROM avaible.

Please, can someone confirm that its realy right on installing every kernel!

So the device would realy free for future !
[Defy Android Development] desillusion:
i mean it doesnt matter as you can use the clockwork system recovery to use like every rom.

2.2 and 2.3 are coming. there arent that many devs for the defy afaik - it will take some time.
[Defy Android Development] switchgott:
Hi, sorry, what are you meen?

To flash a custom rom i don´t need the recovery rom?

But this meen, the bootloader won´t asked for signiert kernel and roms.

Is this right?

I know, there arn´t a lot of devs.

The hole community won´t motorola.

And i don´t know, if i buy defy or desire.

If i can´t but my own roms in it with own kernel, defy isn´t interessed for me.
[Defy Android Development] desillusion:
u need clockwork recovery to restore a unsigned rom afaik.

i own a desire and a defy. desire's display is just crap, its at htc right now for fixing it. the defy is much more resistant and also pretty fast in my opinion.

snapdragon sucks when compared to the cortex a8 with sgx gpu.
[Defy Android Development] switchgott:
Ok, this meen, i can install every rom with every kernel?

But why the milestone and droid can´t do this?

Same bootloader?

Please look at your postbox :-)
[Defy Android Development] nisamtetreb:
Google eFuse Milestone. Motorola uses a CPU hardware lock in order to prevent installation of different system files (Kernel, etc).
[Defy Android Development] switchgott:
Ok, this meens our defy is free from this?

Cool!

But why?
[Defy Android Development] nisamtetreb:
I think nobody tried it on the Defy but I'm pretty sure that it's got eFuse too. The Droid seem to be rare exceptions. :(

This would mean we wouldn't get Gingerbread, since it needs different drivers/kernel.
[Defy Android Development] desillusion:
ur sure? if it is integrated in the cpu-soc i think it is not there in defy - defy uses the same soc as droid and droid-x. hopefully we will know exactly in a few weeks.
[Defy Android Development] switchgott:
How could we find out?

Any idea ?

Would realy strange it motorola build several boot methodes for there phones.

I can´t believe it.
[Defy Android Development] Passa91:
The original Droid, AFAIK, had eFUSE present, but Motorola forgot to "activate" it.

All subsequent Motorola Android phones have had eFUSE enabled. I'm very doubtful that the Defy is an exception, but fingers crossed regardless.. but still.. very very doubtful..

Our only hope of Gingerbread (if it does have eFUSE), is if someone cracks eFUSE (lol) or someone awesome at Motorola releases the key or whatever to sign kernels ourselves (double lol).
[Defy Android Development] joergherzinger:
I'm gonna get my Defy tomorrow and hopefully will start looking into this more closely on Monday. I am pretty sure, that whatever security mechanism they use, if the use one at all, we can beak or at least circumvent it.
[Defy Android Development] switchgott:
But they use it a long time, think about milestone.Ist old.

But no one hast break it!

But what about this clockwork mod?

His creator tells us, that we can load all!Mod kernel, mod roms!All.

What about the truth?
[Defy Android Development] vanloque:
Didn't Hanger at ModMyMob say that there is no signed-kernel locking mecanism after all on the Defy?
[Defy Android Development] demolition23:
which is the easiest way to uninstall Clockwork?
[Defy Android Development] kibiwi:
Has anyone out there tried to load a different kernel to let us know if we have some hope to see someday gingerbread and subsequent updates on our phone?:confused:This is a very crucial question which can change the value of our device...
[Defy Android Development] xmyszka:
@tenfar

This root and recovery NOT work on new released version of English rom for UK v2.51.1

DOWNLOAD: Defy Rom v2.51.1

Can U resolve this ?
[Defy Android Development] zohan569:
i have a question, how do i uninstall/remove the recovery system from my phone completely? i have to turn in my phone for a new one in a few days.
[Defy Android Development] rbeier1221:
Just uninstall it. It does not over ride the original recovery.
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
just flash a sbf firmware.please do not flash the 2.51 firmware.
[Defy Android Development] zohan569:
what sbf firmware? and where can i get it?
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
we can't even root the new firmware v2.51.1 .we need to root this new firmware first to install my recovery.
[Defy Android Development] Perilla_:
Rom manager "Install clockwork recovery" works on Defy?
[Defy Android Development] tnicko:
Dumb question here...Got this for the wife and I'm used to flashing the Nexus one...the ROM's for the Defy are sbf's and gz's. How do you flash these thru the recovery when its looking for zip's?
[Defy Android Development] pilgrimaje:
I don't think it's possible to flash new roms via clockwork. Only backup and restore existing. Please would someone correct me if i'm wrong!
[Defy Android Development] tnicko:
Ah...If true that would explain it then :P So I'm guessing everyone is using the RSDLite way then?

Thanks man!
[Defy Android Development] rbeier1221:
You can flash roms via recovery; we just don't have many to flash yet.
[Defy Android Development] BravoMotorola:
What about the Bravo?

The Defy and Bravo are similar, right? You think I could use this on the Bravo? If NOT, PLEASE start developing on the Bravo! Thatd be AWESOME.

Thanks.
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
I dont hava a bravo. if you like to help me get files from bravo. I will try to build one for bravo.
[Defy Android Development] BravoMotorola:
Anyway I can help I will!

Do you mean a system dump? I could do that! And sense the phones are quite similar I don't think it would be as hard to modify the one for the Defy to match the Bravo, instead of starting from scratch.

Oh, and if you could do that, is there anyway to get CM on the phone without the APK? Anyway to flash CM to the phone? And IDK if you could get a system dump from my phone, it's kind of bricked. It goes in bootloops.
[Defy Android Development] yajinni:
Hi, I am a lil confused. Is there a way to boot into the recovery from a cold boot? Meaning the phone is off and using a key sequence? or do you have to boot into the phone and run the reboot into recovery option from there?
[Defy Android Development] rbeier1221:
As mentioned earlier in this thread, this is a bootstrap recovery; it cannot be started from a cold boot using key combos.
[Defy Android Development] yajinni:
hm i see. so if your rom fails and you can not boot into your android system that means what? your screwed? or is there a way you can recover at that point?
[Defy Android Development] Jt612:
I believe the option is reflash something that does work install recovery then restore a backup

Sent using motorola defy
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
you can flash a stock sbf firmware back to stock stat.then roto your devices. and then install the bootstrap recovery then you can nandroid back to the point your backup your system.
[Defy Android Development] p13rr3:
I feel so sad. My defy is boot looped after clicking the Install Recovery System button twice. There is no sbf file for motorola defy claro from Brazil available, and I don't know what to do. Please guys help me. Any suggestions will be good for me.
[Defy Android Development] rbeier1221:
Did you not update the recovery? There was an update (12/18/2010) that should have fixed the boot loop error.

Unfortunately the only fix is to flash another sbf. Do you have a backup of your system already?
[Defy Android Development] p13rr3:
No I don't have the sbf. Claro Brazil. I guess it's the only one I can't find through the internet. When the mobile was good I installed the Clockwork MOD recovery and then I made a backup but the files weren't copied properly. I have noticed that I need to reflash the rom and many guys did it using RSD lite. The problem is that when I run the program I can1t see my mobile listed below and nothin happens. Could you teach me to run the program? do I need open some doors?
[Defy Android Development] rbeier1221:
To run RSD Lite while in a boot loop you need to power off your phone (remove the battery), then hold down the up volume key while turning the phone back on. You will see a black boot loader screen with some text. Attach your device and run RSD Lite. Make sure you have the most recent version of RSD Lite (4.9 I believe) or it might not flash.
[Defy Android Development] p13rr3:
Man, you are my hero! I did it following your instructions!! I put the JRDNEM_U3_2.34.1_DEBLUR_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA02B.0R_USAJORDANRTCEE_P029_A019_HWp3_Service1FF. Now I noticed that there's no portuguese language in swap keyboard. Now I gonna test 3g and others sttufs. Thank you very much!!
[Defy Android Development] tensan:
After flash, root, install this recovery.. etc... Is possible let the defy as new with this original firm, etc.?

I'm a little lost...
[Defy Android Development] hizz:
Hi,

first of all I would like to thank you for your hard work tenfar! Making me really glad i picked the Defy :)

Anyway, backing up the ROM works great, however I've run into a small problem:

I made the backup when the battery was about 30% full, and now when I restore it, the indicator is always at 30% even though the battery is full. Any idea how to resolve this issue?
[Defy Android Development] rbeier1221:
Glad I could help!
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
try the recovery . there is a wipe battery status menu.
[Defy Android Development] joaolevysa:
p13rr3, I do have a Defy from Claro too. I flashed the 2.51. Even knowing that I couldn't downgrade. But the phone is working fine at this moment. Now, I'm waiting for something more stable to try out. :)
[Defy Android Development] nilsja:
is it possible to create a local non-google-calendar on the the 2.51 version? i mean a calendar without a google account...
[Defy Android Development] Sqoerk:
U hit the "install recovery" button twice? I once did, and got bootloops. The OP says that this problem is fixed, but for me it seems it's not.

I did a few backups and recoverys with the Clockwork MOD and all went well...except the first time I made the mistake. ;)
[Defy Android Development] Kribou:
With the version : defy_recovery-1218-0326-signed.apk

The bootloop following a double click should be fixed. Never had any issue.

Regards,
[Defy Android Development] Sqoerk:
I can speak only for my own device, and I had exactly this problem....with this version. Never used another one
[Defy Android Development] Josephine...:
Still lost...

Hi...

I want to be sure of things before I start this so there'll be no mistakes. It would be so nice if someone could help me, because I don't know much about it.

1. After this process I can update the ROM to 2.2? Install mods? (Are they separate processes or the custom ROM is an update already?)

2. Before I install the new ROM, I'll be asked for a backup of the current ROM, so I can restore it as it came from the store?

3. the order of things:

Download the updated file here;

Put it on SD;

Open ROM Manager and clockwork flash thing

then?

Sorry for making so many questions after all this discussion, but I rather do it now... I'm cautious. :)

Thank you!!

P.S. Also Claro Brasil.
[Defy Android Development] nilsja:
@husbender unfortunatly jorte does not provide a device calendar i could sync against a caldav server with "Calendar (CalDAV) Sync".
[Defy Android Development] nilsja:
husbender, did i get you right, there are working froyo backups which run on a motorola defy out there? where?
[Defy Android Development] Josephine...:
@husbender:

Got it! Now, I'm going to prepare my mind to start this adventure. :P

Thank you!!

Edit:

Sorry if it's a little off, but I saw this link here: (I couldn't put the link. I'm new. :eek:) but it's "How to Install Android 2.2 Froyo on Motorola Defy: Complete Guide" on Brighthub.

Has anyone tried it? It says it's from someone here.

Edit 2:

Just saw it links directly to the post here ([Release] Android 2.2 Froyo For Defy. ChinaVersion English Included, Rooted).
[Defy Android Development] Licans:
Thanks for the recovery. I got a doubt, any way to access the recovery mode by pressing Vol - and Power?
[Defy Android Development] tenfar:
we can't . for the moment. maybe we can't forever.
[Defy Android Development] blabllabla:
Has the camera/flash light bug been fixed?

I am using 2.51 UK version Defy running Chinese Version Froyo, and my camera and flash light won't work. It isn't rooted yet
[Defy Android Development] JamesDax:
I install this and followed these steps above and when the phone reboots it goes to a blank screen and just sits there. Even after a few moments nothing happens. Any ideas why it's not working.

I'm running the chinese 2.2 rom rooted with superoneclick.
[Defy Android Development] rznag:
Deactivate usb debugging.
[Defy Android Development] orntar:
when i make a back up with this app, is it the same as making a "nand" back up?

does this do essentially the same thing as rom manager?
[Defy Android Development] KMur:
Clockwork MOD Recovery: User Instructions missed!

I really do hate :rolleyes: have to discover the "controls" or the directions of something as critical as a custom recovery system.:mad:

In case someone else also missed some more explanation, I figured those:

vol up/down - move through menu/options

power button (short press) - select it

Anything that I missed?

I have just rooted and backed up my Brazil/Claro Defy phone (original Claro stock ROM). :cool:
[Defy Android Development] rbeier1221:
Yes it is.
[Defy Android Development] :
Clockwork MOD recovery doesn t start if i turn on my device and i press VOL down + ON/OFF taste. If i do this, appears the CM Recovery figure with the android symbol and nothing more.

any idea ;)
[Defy Android Development] crazyVII:
same here, searching how to boot it up directly..
[Defy Android Development] :
Solved, after you have installed Clockwork MOD Recovery, turn off your Defy and restart it like in other posts written (POWER+VOL DOWN). When you see the android symbol with the warning triangle, just press the touch taste like the reading-glass or better the last touch taste on the right side.
[Defy Android Development] crazyVII:
boot - and restore clockwork recovery

thanks for the advice, but this doesnt boot up the Clockword recovery, but just the original...

thought of flashing the original firmware, but the solution is easier

you can wipe and restore the factory settings ...

and then just re-install the Clockwork recovery, reboot in clockwork recovery, and restore the backup^^

not as easy as on an old hero^^ :=) but at least better as re-flashing the whole image with RSDLite ;=P

good luck - howdi^^ :)

-edit- doesnt seem to work^^ restored factory settings -> boot loop stays...

edit2 Solution: only possibility: boot in boot loader mode (VOL UP + POWER) and reflash sbf file with RSDLIte :)

sounded like such a great plan...
[Defy Android Development] pjcons:
I've made about 5 backups of my phone and when I try restore it says "md5 error"?

Even when I try restoring one of the roms from one of the devs on here it still gives me the above error. :(
[Defy Android Development] :
HI howdi !!!

thank i'll give a try :) :) :) :)
[Defy Android Development] crazyVII:
the plan - v2 :=P (howto restore powered off device)

hey man, sry to say (updated the other post) it doesnt work that way.

you have to start the phone in boot loader mode (VOL UP + POWER) connect it to a windows machine and reflash the sbf file :=)

that's the only way to get back to a working rom, boot, install recovery, reboot, restore backup^^ little bit of omfg ;) but at least it works :)
[Defy Android Development] :
Hey Howdi :)

i don't know why CMR does't work, the most people says it works, i've really no idea how solve this. But thx for FIX your solution :) :) :) :)