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[G Tablet General] rothnic:
Hey now, I'm familiar with conspiracy theories. This is easy. First there is someone who really wants to look like he is Viewsonic. Then he gets both this XDA account and the twitter account. Then he waits...and profits?

I'm glad to see your responses, and think they will do two things. Provide a show of strong support for the tablet, and generate some very nice press across the android blogs/websites.

I hope to see more interaction with the community.
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
Thanks! You do care!
[G Tablet General] OfficialViewSonic:
Thanks.

I've actually been lurking for awhile... so I know what y'all are up to ;-) I couldn't really get involved before because I simply had nothing I could bring to the table until our development team caught up with your requests.

That said, thanks for the feedback on the screen. We are looking into all sorts of improvements and enhancements in the coming year.

My main concern right now is getting the s/w upgrade out and pushing the kernel out for you. We are literally dealing with people around the globe so it sometimes can take more time than I'd like. But we will come through.

Thanks for all your support.
[G Tablet General] jfholijr:
If u guys do change the screen what will the ones of us who bought the current one be able to do? Will u provide a replacement screen kit?
[G Tablet General] helfrez:
Yeah, as much as I would love to see the screen, which is literally the only real down abou tthe device once Vegatab is loaded, it REALLY hurts the early adopters who shelled out as much as $400+ for the device. It would be really nice to see some form of an upgrade program, or replacement program for existing owners.

Put a new screen in this tablet and it's a wrap, it will instantly become the "go to" device for the community, given the kernel and sources being available. I love everthing about my GTab (on VEGAN) except the screen.

Kudos to you for stepping up and coming to the forums, you guys could really do some damage in the market if you do what consumers have been screaming for the last year, let it free...
[G Tablet General] dan1431:
I am really not surprised that Viewsonic is doing the right thing, I have dealt with them over the years and they have always been a stand up company.

Dan
[G Tablet General] OfficialViewSonic:
If we change the screen it would be in a new model we release... we would not replace it in the existing gTablet... any gTab enhancements or upgrades would be in the software, not the hardware. Don't want to start any unfounded rumors here!
[G Tablet General] rothnic:
One guy in IRC has successfully replaced his with a ~$50 notebook screen. However, a replacement like that is not for the faint of heart. Hopefully we will see a post from him soon.
[G Tablet General] helfrez:
That would definitely be a bad idea lol. Anything said can and will be held against you! New hardware is usually the way to go...I just hope it's not so fast I hate not returning now and waiting another month, best to let that sleeping dog lay there and sleep.
[G Tablet General] S2W:
Have to give you credit for posting here on XDA and with that in mind, it eases some tension we may had with regards to our voices being heard and the kernal source being released. Especialy knowing that you guys are on top of the neccesary updates needed for this tablet to truly rock as meant.

Keep up the good work and thank you Mr. Hanin!
[G Tablet General] mdwalker@yahoo.com:
Thanks!

As one of the many owners here who love the hardware and look forward to software updates that take full advantage of what it can do, thanks alot for paying attention and having the courage to put your name here!
[G Tablet General] helfrez:
Now that sounds fun! I have been tempted to crack mine open and check for the same. If we all put our heads/money together, we could probably buy a lot of kits at a decent price. You normally have to buy 10+ to get a solid discount. I may have to look into it. I believe there is already a post with internal images.
[G Tablet General] copc:
Ditto on the above and I only by viewsonic monitors!
[G Tablet General] joejaru:
Has anyone gotten the update through auto update yet?

Is there anyone who got the update through the G Tablet update program? My stock G Tablet still says that 3053 is the most recent firmware.

BTW: I'm glad Viewsonic is listening!
[G Tablet General] Fuzzy John:
Apparently the update didn't materialize yet. Actually I'd rather wait a few more days instead of having Viewsonic rush it out like they did with the tablets. I have until January 8 to return it to Staples, but by I do need to see something that compells me to keep it.
[G Tablet General] dragonstalker:
Agreed with waiting on the update.

Also the problem with replacing the screen means replacing drivers. In this case. Any rom worked on would have to have multiple drivers to try and adapt to everybody's replaced screens.

B.T.W. Roebeet. If you can send me your dump of 2.4 i'll see how well i can get it to run in gingerbread SDK. Might not be as much work as we think it will take to get gingerbread to run on this tab.
[G Tablet General] slow68:
Thank you VS for paying attention

Mr Hannin thank you for paying attention to our rants and raves. This unit seems to be coming along very nicely with the help of some of the developers here. I would like to make a request if I may - since most of us on this list are looking foward to the work and effort of Roebeet, his work is the reason why I purchased and kept my tablet. I would like to see if it is possible for Roebeet to receive a tablet that he can use as a test or development unit for his efforts. I'm sure that results would be a bonus for all involved.

Thank you

Stef
[G Tablet General] graphicsman:
I'll agree that getting a few dev tablets into the hands of the few hardcore folks on the forum, like Roebeet, will likely really help out proving how good the gtablet can be. Of course you will likely not directly pick up the efforts here into your main trees, but they can show what may or may not be viable and push things in various ways to make your production code better.

As you can see, there are many of us that are really enthusiastic about the tablet and many of us have kept the tablets because of the open-ness of the platform and the efforts of the XDA community.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Glad to see a presence here, by Viewsonic

Thank you for chiming in, and I hope you continue to do so. There is a LOT of uncertainty right now and I've seen more than one post here on XDA today from users who have returned their GTablets, because of that uncertainty. If you could get an official statement out on what happened, and your plans to support the device for the short term, that would be much appreciated.

I completely understand the decision on leaving the screen as-is. If you had done otherwise, I would have been pretty (happily) shocked. My assumption, and I course I don't expect you to reply to this, is that the Staples debacle was probably due to the original firmware FC'ing, and lack of a normal user to be able to correct the issues without an exchange. I actually had these same issues myself with the original firmware, and without a tool like clockworkmod or nvflash, I could not see an easy way to correct them. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for your customer service department.

I hope you are pressuring TnT Inc development to release an official offline ROM update + tools similar to clockworkmod to fix issues like FC's with the acore process. I have contacted CS many times and have asked for the same. I cannot fathom why TnT Inc. has not done this yet, given that one of the early issues is Wifi related. How can you update firmware if your Wifi is broken? It makes no sense to me and, as you might surmise, I troubleshoot issues for a living.

I also hope that whatever is officially released occurs very soon, that it is advertised as such, and that your website (which is almost a month out-of-date) shows this. I did nothing special yesterday to get the 3316 file - it showed up as available on my system and continued to show up as available until early this afternoon ET. Why is that? Are TnT Inc. using production as UAT, which allows these pre-releases to leak through to a small subset of users? And, if so, why would that be permitted? Again, I do not expect you to reply but it's just food for thought - this is not the first time GTablet UAT releases have shown up on user's devices, from my experience.

I hope this does not sound too heavy-handed, but I figured if you are scanning the board I'd put in my 2 cents. Everything I've written here has also been mentioned verbally to your CS reps, so I hope they've passed that along already.

Cheers.
[G Tablet General] JoeSzymkowicz:
That's pretty awesome that someone from Viewsonic would get involved with the hardcore community for its device. Hopefully the announcement of the kernel source release comes to fruition soon. I love my G Tablet. One of the biggest draws for me in purchasing one was that XDA had already been working on customizing it.

I bought the device as a kind of trial, but if things work out well (and retailers continue to sell them) I will be buying at least 2 more for my fiance and parents.
[G Tablet General] gojimi:
Thank you for taking an Interest in our Community

Mr Hanin,

Let me first start off by introducing myself. I am one of 4 of the the main developers in this community working heavily trying to improve your product. Let me just say that even with it's faults and issues out of the gate, you are lucky to be one of the first US manufacturers to jump on the Nvidia Tegra II Tablet band wagon. Your competition in this area is only just starting to show their products. Yours is in the market! So Congrats on that accomplishment!

Now to the nitty gritty. I just want to try and educate you and your corporation on the value a community like ours brings to your product and even your brand name. Large Tech Corporation don't like to admit it but a large portion of their products are never left "the way" they were shipped. Communities like ours are devoted to making a product do more than it was intended or even function the way it was intended but only better. Communities like ours and the developers I share information with on a daily business only serve to INCREASE the desires of a product like yours. WE DRIVE SALES.... WE LOWER RETURN RATES... WE IMPROVE PRODUCTS... WE IMPROVE PRODUCT IMAGE! I know Corporations in general have a hard time with letting go of Intellectual Properties and anything that has cost hard earned money and time. But as Google has shown as a corporation.... a certain amount of openness to the community can reap LARGE rewards.... Look at the Growth and Adoption rate of Android in the past 2 years!

I'm not Trying to put pressure on you or Viewsonic. I am just trying to help you understand the value we hold for you and your product. Just think of the community as it sits right now with 1000's of active players... and who knows how many LURKERS. Think of how large that community would be for your next similar product launch if our community gets the TOOLS necessary to take this and future Tablets to the Extreme!

Thank you for your time and all your patience with the constant badgering for Source code and Other Rants! We really do appreciate a voice in our community that can speak on behalf of your corporation.
[G Tablet General] nose13:
Viewsonic Marketing

Adam,

Roebeet has done a metric-ton of work to your product to make it usable. Frankly, out of the box it was a brick and I wouldn't have bought the 2 I have without the work he's done.

I might suggest you reach out to him and the other majors in the dev community for this device and provide them a dev unit or two so they have to keep doing this on the one device they might actually want to use.

Many here would like to send the guy some cash for the work he's done, but he's refused. I hope you find a way.
[G Tablet General] rothnic:
Ahem :) ...
[G Tablet General] bijan588:
...Cmon guys

They cant just go around giving out units...
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
They may be getting a few back from Staples. Maybe offer a few to our devs at a deep "discount";)
[G Tablet General] OfficialViewSonic:
Ooo that hurts. ;)
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
I'm only saying.......:D

I would say I'm a proud owner of a GTab but my wife stole it and wont give it back.:(
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I've said this before, but I'm like the marketing guy for these mods -- I don't do the major grunt work, but I get all the credit since I'm the one doing the posts and packaging.

If it wasn't for bekit, we wouldn't have clockworkmod or a cm build. If it wasn't for rothnic, we wouldn't have the link to the zPad devs, no full gapps and VEGAn would would look butt ugly. If it wasn't for gojimi, we wouldn't even have a VEGAn build. They ALL deserve major kudos for all the amazing work that they do!
[G Tablet General] rothnic:
Absolutely, if there is one person that could use one, it is bekit.
[G Tablet General] markgolly:
Since others have put in their 2 cents, I would like to do the same. I bought two gtabs because of the good work the hard-core devs have put in. I was hoping to join as one of them as I've developed some kernel code (never saw the light of day, though), but the Christmas holidays and family obligations have "gotten in the way". ;) Maybe I'll be able to get Ubuntu ported once the kernel source is released to the community... :D

Anyway, my wife and I are trialling the tabs in our children's education (yep, home-school dad here!). My kids are also not the easiest on electronics, so I'd like to ask for tabs that are a little more robust and hardened.

Thank you for listening....
[G Tablet General] Americamom:
update is "rolling out"

I called the support line this morning and the very nice gentleman said that the update was "rolling out" but will not have flash. Flash would happen in Jan. He also said that rooting the gtablet will void the warrentee. I have not done any mods yet as I wanted to see what the updates would do first. Also because I would need a step by step instuctions. I still dont regret buying the gtab. I just wish I would have gotten what I paid for.
[Focus General] SportbikeRiderXX:
So, I've decided to return my Focus back to AT&T because I simply can not live without a physical keyboard...I'm going to keep using my Fuze for a while. I've been using my 8GB SanDisk storage card in the Focus without any issues, but now I want to REformat it so that I can use it my Fuze again. Is there a way to do that, or did the WP7 OS make permanent changes to my storage card? When I put the card into the reader on my laptop, it just says there's no card installed. I knew that I wouldn't be able to read/write info on the card after using it in a WP7 phone, but I want to format it back to "regular"...how do I do that?
[Focus General] serialtoon:
Hate to be the one that breaks it to yah, but you cant. Not at this moment at least. Now there is other ways of doing it such as sticking the card in a Nokia phone with at least a S60 OS and it will do it for you. Other than that, hold tight and wait for MS to come up with a way to do it without a work around.
[Focus General] SportbikeRiderXX:
I was afraid of that. I thought I remembered reading something about using a Nokia phone, but I wasn't sure if it was still necessary. Thank you for your response...I'll hold onto this 8GB card until a solution comes out to reformat it.
[Focus General] djca:
I ordered this item http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.27330 to try and revive a WP7-locked microSD. I have no idea if it will work or not. If it doesn't then I'm out $6.

It hasn't shipped out yet (from HK or China). I'll report back when I get it maybe in January.
[Focus General] tripntx:
Interesting item, I'll be watching for an update from you.
[Focus General] SportbikeRiderXX:
Me too. Please report on this thread, thanks!
[Focus General] naplesbill:
The LG Windows Phone 7 has a keyboard! Just saying! :)

I was able to reformat my first SD card using a Nokia phone.
[Focus General] ITDRAGON:
Well the other solution is to use the card in another Focus or something that can format it, because if the computer can't see it, you can't format it. Not even with formatting tools. Now I haven't checked but you might be able to format it booting into dos and using a utility but instead of going through the hassel I just gave my dad the 16Gb card when I got my 32Gb card.
[Focus General] FishFaceMcGee:
But wouldn't putting the card in another Focus format it once again so that it couldn't be used by anything but that Focus, which would continue to make it unusable by any other device?
[Focus General] ITDRAGON:
yep but it's better than having a guitar pick laying around lol I'm just glad I didn't format the other 16Gb card I had laying around. Oh and I meant to say my dad's focus :D
[Focus General] blkbuttah:
I was able to re-format two micro-sd cards using free software and a flash memory reader on my laptop. Go to download.com and look for Easeus Partition Master.
[Focus General] FishFaceMcGee:
microSD cards that were formatted in Windows Phone 7? How did your computer even see them?
[Focus General] blkbuttah:
Well the flash memory is built into my laptop but an external-usb one would work just as well. Download and install the Easeus Partition software. Insert the memory card you want to format and run the software. It will recognize the memory card. I believe you can just right click on the card and select format. Hit apply and it's done.
[Focus General] serialtoon:
I think you are missing the point. If Windows,Linux and OSX cant even see the card, how exactly did you format the card? Remember that Windows Phone formats the card to make it unreadable on all devices but Nokia Phones and Windows Phone.
[Focus General] SportbikeRiderXX:
Exactly. I tired this software yesterday on my laptop (Win XP), using a USB card reader and the laptop never recognized the storage card...
[Focus General] djca:
Unfortunately, this SD unlocker wasn't able to unlock my Focus-locked microSD.
[Focus General] FishFaceMcGee:
Disappointing but not all that surprising given the track-record.
[Focus General] GrayWolf:
So far, only Nokia phones and some WinMo phones (such as my AT&T Tilt) have been confirmed as being able to reformat the micro SDHC cards that were used in Windows Phone 7 devices.
[Focus General] PaullikesWINMO:
I heard Sony Vivaz will format card as well. Don't know for sure as I have not tried, only heard that it does.
[Focus General] panzerxschreck23:
I have the same problem. I just hate the fact Focus lock the freaking micro sd card.
[Focus General] Fuzzy John:
It's all WP7 devices that do that, not only Focus.
[Focus General] SportbikeRiderXX:
GrayWolf, you were successful in using a Tilt to reformat a storage card that was once used in a WP7 phone? If so, I have an AT&T Tilt at home that I'll be trying this with as soon as I get home today. In case it matters, exactly which ROM do you have installed on the Tilt? Oh, and what storage card utility or program did you use to perform the format? Is there another thread on xda with details?
[Focus General] patrickk:
I'd also like to know. So far, I don't have any luck getting the Tilt to see a microsd card after it's been formatted by WP7. I tried using a program called storage tools (found out about it here: http://softwaretracker.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-to-format-storage-card-in-windows.html) but I didn't have any luck with the phone even seeing the card.
[Focus General] weitzelj:
I tried my Tilt and it would not see the card at all.
[Focus General] SportbikeRiderXX:
Yea, I had no luck with my Tilt either. I think I'm going to go into the local AT&T store in the Mall and see if they have an appropriate Nokia phone out on display...and if it's a working model, I'll see if I can quickly reformat my storage card. The place is usually pretty busy and you have to take a nubmer and/or wait a few mintues to have a sales associate help you anyway. Maybe I can in/out quickly...although I feel they "owe it to me" anyway (the reformatting service). :)
[Focus General] PaullikesWINMO:
I heard Nokia N8 or Sony Vivaz phones will re-format the card.
[Focus General] patrickk:
My BlackBerry Bold won't reformat it either. So far I've tried

BlackBerry Bold 9700

HD2

Tilt 2

Tilt

Canon Powershot SD600

Canon Powershot G12

Some old Garmin GPS

Pioneer AVIC F700

Unfortunately, none of those even recognized it. The BlackBerry came closest in that it actually knew a card was inserted and there was something wrong with it, however the reformat option always failed.
[Fascinate General] DigitalDementia:
Accidentally hit volume down, you now realize the Fascinate has a Digital Zoom.

Mind blown.

Also you're welcome.
[Fascinate General] Jrex:
Lol! :cool:
[Fascinate General] PacoTaco1337:
Wow. I dident know that

Sent from my SCH-I500
[Fascinate General] Kevin Gossett:
Isn't it amazing what you can find out by reading a manual?

(page 79)

And yes, I realize the Fascinate didn't ship with a manual, but it is readily available
[Fascinate General] tcub:
Digital zooms are awful...
[Fascinate General] DigitalDementia:
Use it, then take a picture it looks fuzzy on screen but the actual photo comes out quite nicely.
[Fascinate General] DigitalDementia:
Sorry but manuals are filled with mostly garbage. I prefer to figure things out on my own, actually I knew about this the first day I had it. If I can't figure out a device on my own, I feel like I shouldn't be using it. Unless it's something like photoshop, that I read manuals on heh...
[Fascinate General] hondakorn:
thx, never knew that
[Fascinate General] slvrevoix:
Figured that out at a jazz game LOL. We also have macro mode for close up pictures
[Fascinate General] fifreak:
This post got me thinking... has anyone figured out the proper settings to get this phone to take decent pictures? I feel like my old blackberry took better pictures.
[Fascinate General] scriz:
You must be blind.

The image review on the phone does not look that nice, but look at it on a computer and they look great.
[Fascinate General] soba49:
Also, an app called Reduce Photo Size works very nicely for cropping images - not as convenient as digital zoom in every case, but indispensable for an image you want up in a hurry (easy crop, fast ui, and much smaller file size without artifacting issues).

Also auto desk sketch book is very cool for quick edits.

There is a timer hidden in the stock camera menus too... Took me a while to find it!

Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
[Fascinate General] fifreak:
Maybe I should clarify... whenever the Fascinate tries to use the flash, everything is always completely washed out because the flash is so bright. I havent had much luck taking pictures at night or even in a somewhat low light situation. What flash setting are people using? (On, Auto, Off)
[Fascinate General] ivorycruncher:
Just fyi, the zoom function works while shooting video too, though it's a bit odd watching it as it's so abrupt, unlike a real video camera that smoothly zooms in and out.
[Fascinate General] DigitalDementia:
My photos come out crisp and clean, even when using flash, there may be a problem with your camera if it's washed out. Can you upload a picture so we can review what you're talking about? A description is never as good as a picture ;)
[Fascinate General] ilogik:
Posting pics of your penis are prohibited on this board.
[Fascinate General] fifreak:
Here you can see a picture taken in low light with flash and it is just totally wiped out (burger)

View attachment 469332

Here is a picture during the day with no flash and you can see it looks nice and crisp (veggies)

View attachment 469333

Here is another one done during the day but inside so there was lower light. I was holding the camera still and the dog wasnt moving much yet it still looks blurry and washed out.

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[Fascinate General] Thrillhouse847:
I second your observations, however I still find these results better than my Droid was so I'm content to live with it.

Sent from my StupidFast/Blackhole Fascinate