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[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
That's pretty normal. Anywhere from negative 50-122 is pretty much normal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fba1:
Version 7 seems to be a better step however I am not getting the insane battery life as I was on 131. Posting some screenshots any ideas?
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Yep, exactly what happens with mine when my phone is in use while I charge it. It DOES get to 0mAs, even thought I am using it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Holy cr@p. The stock kernels have been great for me. When you kernel guys get a hold of the source codes.....Wow. Just wow. The good thing about stock is that it will be stable on all phones. Stable, reliable, predictable, smooth, no lag.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
I agree, I would love to see havs/aggressive undervolting plus this battery charge mod on htc #15. I don't think it could get better than that.

Evolved into a higher form of communication
[EVO 4G Android Development] knixx:
It seems that just using the internet gives me in about -500mA

I went down 7% in about 6 minutes. Is that normal?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosympathy:
I don't know if it is just me. But running Fresh latest rom, and HW 0004, when I flash this kernal my camera doesn't work anymore. Tried the latest version.

Anyone have any ideas? I want trickle charging but I need a working camera...
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Well that depends...battery monitor widget could be adding onto that use of power simply because its open and updating every 50 seconds. I usually just FC that widget when I'm not charging.

That's a known issue. No fix until HTC releases their source code for their kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Greenfieldan:
I've had ONE reboot using this kernel...So fantastic job Netarchy/MS. This is pretty awesome shiz right here :cool:
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosympathy:
Thanks for responding so fast. Guess I will be forgoing this kernal until then. If it is true that the source codes are gonna be released soon then I will be a happy person!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Because everyone wants it so much, as soon as that source is released, I'm gonna be on it like white on rice.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jerich007:
Can vpnc support be added to this kernel? It's built in to Netarchy's kernels. Add this and it would be near perfect...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Greenfieldan:
You're a boss ms :cool:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Hamspiced:
So far, on what i can tell. V7 works both on AC and USB. I havent had the issues i did on V4. With inonsistant charging issues.

Op. if you have something you want me to test out shoot me a pm. im recharging to 100 and will be more then willing to be a base for something. Im fresh's newest on a full wipe.

I am going off the base that the main concerns right now are

1. -ma's during charge.

2. flash drops during disharge.

3. indifferences btw Ac/USB

4. base standards.

Either way. if you have something you need to test let me know via pm.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tom2164:
works as described

i have been using this v7 since release and it work very well, hats off to the developer. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] v01rider:
did not even get a 24hr test done before needing to charge

im not impressed with the cm6 specific kernel. it looked promising at the beginning, but once i used my phone for calls, 3g web surfing, and some pics, it failed. :(

EDIT: to mention i have a 2 month old seido 1750 battery

5:20p - 92%

by 9:44p - 27% :(

all that has been running since unplug at 3:50p

by 10p - 17%

only 6hrs and 17min up time :(

now im flashing the other aosp kernel - 4.1.9.1 more havs v7. going to charge overnight and report back.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
4.1.9.1 is a sense kernel....

If u want good aosp kernels u so ng this SBC mod, try zendroids latest they work pretty damn well
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosympathy:
probably not a smart idea to post your phone number, as it is in your screenies...
[EVO 4G Android Development] khshapiro:
What is the difference. Between 1.3 and 1.7?
[EVO 4G Android Development] DrRyder:
For the love of Christ, guys. Please, please, please STOP quoting a long post like that.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bignibb:
I dont know but for some reason my phone likes 4.2.2 no-havs the version 1 or 2 not v3. I get the best charge from it, I get 4.19 off charger and with the others I can only best maybe 4.16. Vesion 7 just didnt perform well for me, but im glad one of them does what I need it to......

Thanks again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] soundwavedj:
Any plans on releasing a new version for 4.2.2?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mich2Ga:
Great Kernels in here, no problems @ all so far...
[EVO 4G Android Development] thenewguy821:
Quoting the post wouldn't be so bad if they just removed the pictures.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rkd2398:
I installed the SBC-net-4.1.9.1-more-havs-v7.zip last night and put it on charge about 12:15 am woke up and started using it about 7:30am. Looking at my screen shot, is it dropping so fast because I didn't let it charge 8 + hours?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xxRAMOTHxx:
Wow. Here are the results I got from my first overnight charging. Pretty impressive I thinks.

003 hardware

New radios and wimax

4.2 kernel with more aggressive undervolting

Nice!

Sent from the ROM that Ricsim built!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
MS

I'm up for testing. Have never had problems with any CFS kernels...Net/Ziggy/Kings. Using Myn 4, Original SBC V4 4.2.2 More, HW0003.

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] jonathaflores:
I am on v7, at 15 hours since i unplug it, i am still at 76%:eek:
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
do you even use your phone???? hahaha
[EVO 4G Android Development] Persnlmgr:
Yeah....you guys DO know when you "quote" you can go in and delete the attachments, right? Puh-leeeezzzzz....

ON TOPIC:

So, MS, I had a HUGE issue with v4 2 nights ago (nearly 3 hours of not-being-able-to-get-into-Recovery bootloops) but, as I've said many times I think this is an amazing concept, so after running Ztest12/19 all day yesterday, last night I upd'd to v7.

All was going great for a few hours until I went into OS Monitor to check how the governor was set. There were only 3 choices listed: "Conservative", "Performance", and the one I was set to, "On Demand". I remembered something you'd said in an earlier post, and I switched it to "Conservative", and checked "Set CPU on Boot".

BAD MOVE.:(

The bootloops started, and since I didn't want to go the whole wipe/reflash route again, I spent an hour trying to "beat the bootloops" and uncheck that box before the reboot. DUMB ASS IDEA (I excel at those...).

Finally, I realised I could wipe cache/dalvik/data, and restore data from a Nandroid I made mid-afternoon before resetting it, which I did, and everything went back to normal...

So, why would setting OSM to Conservative do that? Do you think it would have happened with ANY setting, it was just turning on Set CPU on Boot that did it? And ultimately, are these kernels meant to run "naked"?

Inquiring mind wants to know.

I did leave the kernel (v7) in place, just without any enhancements, and charged it overnight and will continue testing it today, but I'd really like to know what the prob was....:confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
I think u'r kernels are great man! Only issue is that when I use SetCPU to set the governor I like to use (e.g., smartass) and maybe bump up the max freq a little, it doesn't seem to stay using SetCPU. It's very unpredictable. Some reboots allow my settings to stick, other reboots don't. Also, even just running it without a reboot, it'll go back to the original settings (default) sometimes. Others it'll stick, but then go back to defaults... basically the settings are funky when being changed. Anything that can be done about that or reasoning as to why it seems to be occurring? Otherwise, your trickle charges + net's 4.2.2 smartass less HAVS are GREAT!

Too bad they aren't available for the latest v7 on 4.2.2.

Also, where'd v131 & v132 go? I can't find the link any more.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 3c:
Hello,

I'm not a battery expert but the consumption you're having must come from an application that continued to run in the background... could even be a widget...

Usually I start by sleeping overnight using plane mode (or at least 20 minutes with screen-off)... you should get 4-8 mA consumption...

Then switch data back on...

Then wifi on

Also, here is an app that you can run to check who's been consuming your battery... Note that it itself consumes battery when you use it... so don't keep it running in the background while refreshing every second :( would be bad.

Note this is an unreleased app that I will put in the market once the monitoring/logging is finished (the record button doesn't work)

Also note that all system apps are excluded by default (cannot kill them and they are hidden from the main view)...

Hoping you find what's wrong in your phone...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Persnlmgr:
Are you using PROFILES in SetCPU? If so, disable them and only use the Governor and set to On Boot. Profiles interfere with the governor staying where you set it, so uncheck them....

:cool:

I was a huge fan of SetCPU, but lately I'm finding it interferes badly with a lot of these new kernels. (Maybe they haven't updated it in a while to accomodate them). I finally got fed up, uninstalled it, and installed OS Monitor, which works amazingly well and provides deeper configuration than SetCPU.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
As a suggestion if you are going to use SetCPU on Boot (v2.0.3 or 2.0.4 has feature) create a file named setcpu_safemode with no extension, nothing in it, and put in on root of SD. This is a safety valve created by the dev of SetCPU to intervene on boot if there is a problem and prevent this. Don't understand tho why changing just governor to conservative would do this unless changing it in OS somehow made it incompatible with SetCPU governor setting??

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] makojr:
I tried the 129 the other day because I had the 3500 extended battery. Sadly to say, I had a lot of negatives on my battery widget monitor while charging. ( I was not using charger as I was asleep.) So I flashed the v7 yesterday. (I have myn's rls 4 Rom, btw.) I had the evo on charger for 10 hours and I did not have one single negative! I took it off charger about 945pm and when I got to work I was @ 96% and usually Im dropped to the low 80's. (I did use the net a little bit.)

Currently I am going on 12 hours now @ 64%! (I also have not used setcpu or juice defender.)

I tended my farm a few times, text messaged 20 messages or so, responded on facebook a few times, played on market, and even been on the browser for the past 3 hours! MS, thank you for your hard work and this v7 kernel! Im quite happy with the results so far! If this keeps up for the rest of the week, I would love to support your hard work by giving you a donation! We all know how bad the evo's battery life is so any help to prolong the battery should be rewarded!

I tried to post some pix of my results, but xda said I can't because Im new and I have to post 8 posts from my phone.darn it.. lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Persnlmgr:
Thanks, Jim, but when I said "turning on Set CPU" I meant the setting in OS Monitor not the program. I uninstalled SetCPU (the program) a few days ago as I found it problematic AND discovered OS Monitor (which I like more...).

I may have to go back to SetCPU (the program) because that "safety valve" seems an awesome escape trick!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Haven't HAD to test to see if the safety valve works yet...but then again maybe it just worked and I didn't even know it :D

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] smallba:
Well got about 5 hours and I'm at 62% using version 7, so I went back to version 5 (approx. 16 hours on yesterday)

Froze the screen up on me today, and was laggy this morning (running 100% cpu) till I switched setcpu from "conservitive" to "on-demand" then it was smooth.

mA also didn't remain steady

Stock Battery

It drained really fast, I'll give it try again tomorrow.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Helton566:
Which one did you exactly?

Sent from my Tap Tap!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Persnlmgr:
Me likee...:D

After leaving v7 on charge all night I'm pretty amazed at the results.

I usually do a coupla crosswords in the a.m. with my coffee and use a program called "Shortyz". LA Times and Newsday take 20-30 minutes and the app usually sucks about 5-8% during that time.

Not this morning.:p

28 minutes on Shortyz and I'm still reading Full, and am at 4144mV. Awesome!!

Hope this is compatible with (or even included in) Myn's Warm2.2 R5, which will be out in next day or two, and will be on my EVO 3 nanoseconds after it hits.... ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] tuscolavol:
I'm a little late to this thread so forgive me this has been posted. I've tried 3 of these kernals and with 2 of them, my screen won't turn off. It will dim but it doesn't go all the way off. I'm pretty sure it's the kernal because v5 didn't do it. V4 (I think) and v7 does.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
the test kernel has already been tweaked,

let it run naked, so you see how IT does

without any further tweaking from user,

which removes more variables from the test.

then once you know how it does as designed,

do yer tweaking, boot looping (yer getting good at that !), etc.

as for tweaking, i do believe you should √ set on boot

only after you're sure your setup has worked properly each time

after at least two reboots. if so, √ that setting.

and when you make any setting change, un √ it,

test again with reboots, before √ set on boot.

have a Merry Christmas everyone!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jpmaniac87:
So I'm just curious, why did we jump back to 4.1.9.1 for the development? I used v4 one day... 22hrs and had like 45% charge left, but I took it off charger at the right time. Left it charge last night and I can see where it stuck on zero for less than an hour, then the negatives started, mostly -2, a .few random -56, but I guess what I'm saying is, 4.2.2 seems amazing so if we could get it to work for that kernel, it would be so amazing! And by the way, props to you Ms, you've been rolling out this stuff like it's your job.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Persnlmgr:
If this happens when you're charging, go into Settings, Applications, Development and make sure "Stay Awake" is UNchecked.

If it's when you're off-charge, I've found that if a system process (and even just the battery widget will do this) happens during the time my screen's waiting to sleep (2 minutes) it goes back to bright, and doesn't sleep.

It may be a quirk of the kernel, but I feel it's a small price to pay for this kind of battery fix so I just quick-press the power button and turn the screen off manually.;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
I am noticing similar results. I am using the V7 Sense kernel and I was at 100% and 0 MA so it was DONE charging... I was good for a while .. then it dropped to 99%.. then I was sitting in a bar with a friend and he went on MIRIM BROWSER for less then 10 minutes and THEN my battery went from 99% down to 77% .. whats up with that? Im going to test it today and tomorrow WITHOUT going on the browser to see how it works. I can figure out what drained the battery so fast. could it have been that we had LOW 3G signal in the bar and tha was causing the phone to search for a signal sometimes and it used up more battery?

I checked in SPARE PARTS and it said MARIM BROWSER was the top battery user. also this morning I noticed it says GOOGLE VOICE is the top partial wakeup app and this never happened on the stock kernel...

One question - in regards to the battery widget.. what is the best UPDATE SETTINGS to use so it doesnt drain the battery?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Persnlmgr:
Oooooooooo....somebody found the "check" macro...:rolleyes:

Seriously, thanks B. I am running it naked since the restore last night and it seems to be, well, amazing.:D (see a coupla posts back...)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Are you using the new V4 which is 4.1.9.1 or the old V4 which is 4.2.2 It looks like you're getting good results either way. I've tested all but prefer the old V4 which does well for me plus I get 4.2.2 but guess some ROMs don't play nice from what MS posted. I'm using Myn RLS4.

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
V7

I dropped 20% overnight :-\ not plugged into charger obviously. No changes to anything except the new kernel. I typically drop 1% per hour on stock or Ziggy kernels.

traced using ultra keyboard
[EVO 4G Android Development] v01rider:
pretty good results just after flashing SBC AOSP 4.1.9.1

i put this on the wall charger around 345am last night. i did the old shut down, plug in/out trick this morning. cleared battery states. now its charging via usb until i see the battery widget read 0 mA's. will update through out the day.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
No, I don't use profiles with Smartass, as they contradict each other Thanks tho :)

I usually just go in to setup the governor and the min/max is all. So that's all I need setcpu for really.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jpmaniac87:
That's the v4 with 4.2.2. I am trying out v3 right now
[EVO 4G Android Development] soundwavedj:
I cantfind b4 for 4.2.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Because he pulled the old original V4 4.2.2 CFS HAVS More Agressive with added volt tweaks, because apparently some ROMs were having issues with it...works good for me on Myn's RLS4 on older HW0003.

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
you find something that works, definitely put that kernel in KEEP - WORKS GREAT FOLDER. i wish i had more time to try each again, but i thought 131, v3, the original v4 all were working good - just too quick to test each thoroughly.

on v7 now, but leaving to prepare for Myn's RLS 5 beta.

(you need the latest radios installed beforehand)

@ms - keep on keep on - awesome job you're doing! and Merry Christmas !

i'm keeping that 131 Kernel Hall of Fame! tag (at bottom) -

Gman nominated it and i seconded it - so it got in on the first ballot !
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ragster:
When do you guys usually hit 4.2 V? Mine hit it in the 70's, isn't that kind of early? I'm stilling getting a ~100 mV drop the second my charger is taken off.. Was on charger for 8 hours
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigkmoney:
I can never get to 0 ma but I do get down to like 3-4 ma then it won't go any lower. The battery life is really good though. I'm staying at 100% for quite a while.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
MS

Just for our info. When on charger idle, before/after 100%, wouldn't periodic sync in background (email, weather, etc.) cause a temporary negative blip in mA and mV. Curious if that is what some are seeing when looking at history and not taking that into account...especially after reaching 0mA?

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Agree 100% OK, Myn we're ready :D

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
It just keeps getting better...check this...my Xmas present from MS.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chummer360:
which version are you using and what is your setcpu settings?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Stroid01:
I gave v7 a try and had great results till it reached about 40% batterry then I was loosing 1% a minute until i got down to 24% (i put it on the charger and went to bed) and my phone was idle. I really dont understand what the difference is but I was using 4.2.2. v3 and didnt have this issue at all....I guess im flashing back to what worked best for me so far. Just my 2cents
[EVO 4G Android Development] 3c:
Maybe you could try Process Monitor Widget from the market to check what's been running on your system, it might give you a hint on why your phone is consuming so much battery...

I had similar issues and discovered I played a game before sleep which kept running all night... also had issues with a weather widget and also with MSN Talk...

Note that it's a beta and the logging is not yet implemented, the logging will really show what's going on and once linked with BMW it will show who's been actually consuming!

Merry Christmas to all!
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhantomHacker:
I'm curious of this also.

Swyped from my Mynion using the Xda App.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rvance:
alright guys, I just started hearing of this today and my roommate told me a little about it and I was just wondering which one do i use for sense? I just tried v7 4.1.9.1 and when trying to flash it said abort missing a file, so if someone could let me know which one i need for sense that would be great.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 3c:
Might well be that, without charge I see 50mA peaks when synching...

I've also seen information on battery driver saying they discharge a little the battery to recharge it, this would enhance battery life... instead of charging continually which would actually kill it.

It's often a matter of less than 1mA which is barely visible and never reported by systems, hence no mA monitoring can usually see it...

Merry Christmas to all!
[EVO 4G Android Development] salukis93:
131 works well for me

battery life is long when not using the phone

moderate use does knock the battery down more than i would like
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
WHat rom? I am using SPRINT LOVERS and the 4.1.9.1 V7 Kernel..
[EVO 4G Android Development] dis39tif:
I've been using a few of the kernels here (131, then the latest 4.1.9.1) and it feels like I'm getting worse battery performance than I get with the normal 4.1.9.1 kernel I've been using. Again, this isn't backed up by any specific testing....all I can point to right now is my gut and that under the normal 4.1.9.1 when I sleep for 6-8 hours I lose about 3-6% battery, while with these kernels I'm losing double that.

What I also notice is that when my phone's on the charger, Android System process seems to take up between 5-10% of the CPU usage (according to system monitor).

No change in apps or usage patterns. Just thought I'd post my observations.

Oh yeah, using Steel's I2 3.70 rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] v01rider:
charging stats.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rvance:
ok my bad, I'm using the basic sense ui but my phone is rooted. i just chose to stay with basics bcz of how awkward it is to mod your phone the way you want to than the iphone which i had before evo. So is there one I could use for the basic sense ui or do I need a rom installed first?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Try flashing the newer kernels
[EVO 4G Android Development] jpmaniac87:
I believe if you change the kernel governor to conservative with set CPU, it will be like having 4.2.2 which has better usage life
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
flashed v7 last night, charged overnight like i normally do, and today it's blowing my mind. light txt'ing, a few emails and a few clock alarms going off and still hovering at 100%.

absolutely awesome.
[EVO 4G Android Development] VisedMonk:
I posted several updates yesterday, but I am still amazed by the battery life on the v7 build. I unplugged at 7 this morning and now, with very light use all on 3G, I still gave 96% remaining. MS has outdone himself. Donation to come soon...
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
So after switching to v7, it trickled until. 6ma, then wouldn't go any lower.

It stayed at 100% for 2.5 hours.

Here's how it is currently...
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
I am using the original v4. The 4.2.2 v4 that was removed for 4.1.9 v5. My set CPU settings are overclock to 1228mhz, on demand. One profile for screen off..245/245.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fba1:
So I ended up going back to 131 since these newer kernels are just draining my battery like crazy.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
I am on version 7 and like it
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
For info...

Using the old V4 Net 4.2.2 CFS HAVS More with the new 3.70 based Myn RLS5 and at this early stage all seems to be good :)

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] dan.kels.r:
wtf!!?? myns rls5? who what when where how and why?! i want it