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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
you best be staying outa the 951 :p *glare* jk :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Das_mobile:
LOL! 909 all the way! :-P
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
:) There should be peace between us ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tks989:
West Hartford, CT.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Superfrag:
Will try the local Best Buy in Erie, if not there then Cleveland on Saturday. None of the two cities have Best Buy's that sell T-Mobile. :(

Here's hoping I get one.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sshtac:
Another yankee!

Orange, CT.

Only 1 more day, guys!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
Now i feel better about spending 560 dollars on a phone ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
Tmonews released a list for which store sells

with contract

, so all stores will sell

without contract

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/best-buy-releases-nexus-s-store-list/
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
Well this isn't good, just called San Bernardino, spoke to a Jeremy, he said he has no stock count on the Nexus S yet... wtf.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
You'll be on your own, i think im stickin around here because now their heads arent all the way up their ass ;)

One store tells me 4 incoming and the other doesnt know but they say theyll have em the 16
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
I'm gonna call a bit later hopefully get someone else, or go there if I'm not lazy.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
I just dont think everyones on the same page :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kanariya:
I hope so.

I went to the SOHO BB last night and the guy told me that they won't have the Nexus S in store physically but they can do an online order for me which will take 3-5 business days.

I'll be there 8AM tomorrow.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
it seems to me if you tell them "unlocked' they magically know what you are talking about, they assume EVERYONE is talking about buying on contract
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JOHNGAETANO:
Buying mine outright from Canton, Ohio
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dskyers:
getting it at

florida city in miami fl
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Waza_Be:
Hello all, I am a belgian guy and plan to call a friend that will be in NY to buy one for me.

Unfortunately, he will only go there afternoon.

Do you think there is an chance to get something afternoon ( I will buy a Nexus without contract) or do you think they will be all sold and nothing left?

What is your feeling about that?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
I don't really care it I failed to get the phone tomorrow. I can wait for a month and use my trusty MT4 (it has good screen) for time being.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
So f'ing pissed right now.

Just went to the San Bernardino Best Buy. Lady REFUSES to tell me how many they have for tomorrow. I ask if they have any accessories, REFUSES to tell me if they do. All she was saying was, it's unlocked for $529, first come first served.

Freaking bastards.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
ya they are refusing to tell me anything out here in Corona either, one store tells me how many they have the other wont ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
That's standard for limited releases. They never give out their stock quantities for something like this.

I just called the nearest T-Mobile-selling Best Buy in the Chicago area and wasn't able to get much out of him other than they've been getting a lot of calls about it already. I asked what time he recommended I be in line and he said "bright and early". I'm honestly thinking about hopping into bed now, head over there when I wake up, and camp overnight. :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sshtac:
^^^ That's the same response I've been getting, whether by phone or in person. What is it, some kind of state secret? Sheesh...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
i be overnight
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j.bruha:
I'm sincerely hoping it's all a lot of hype and it'll turn out like most midnight releases of video game launches have been; get there 11:45 minutes before the door opens, stand in line behind the one nerd that's been there since 8pm, and snag your copy. Hopefully...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
do you really wanna test that theory?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sshtac:
hahahaha.. I'm guessing slowz3r will be that one nerd? :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
Let the madness begin! :p

You guys are seriously NUTS ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
yes infact i will be, cuz i need to get a phone, just sold my N1 an hour ago so im without one

and my house is getting fumigated so i have no reason to be stuck in a hotel room
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
Man, you're worse than me, I thought I was bad. But man, 4 days without my Nexus One, it is seriously hard to get through life! :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
Doesnt help that all my work is done through my phone

so i get one tomorrow or i dont work for a week
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG. 13 hours OMG OMG OMG OMG SKEET
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
Any seizures yet Anderdroid? ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
Almost >.< think I'm gonna sleep now. 7pm.. :p

Too excited to sleep... Santa's coming early >XXXDDDD
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuan209:
Are you able to order the phone online and pick it up at the store?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
No. They did just announce free overnight shipping, valid till Dec. 22.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bmerz:
Found this, and thought it may be of interest to some of you that don't live close to a BB that sells Tmo contracts...

http://www.bestbuymobile.com/blog-post/google-nexus-s-where-when-and-how-get-yours

Option number 2, maybe what I go with:

"2. Buying a Nexus S in the store without a new contract or upgrade for $529.99 The Google Nexus S will be available to buy without a contract at all Best Buy locations, including Best Buy Mobile stand-alone stores. Find your nearest Best Buy location with our Store Locator. If your local store doesn’t regularly offer T-Mobile service, our mobile consultants can help you make an online purchase for home delivery.

Since I want to keep my grandfathered-in plan, and I don't live very close to the only 2 locations (here in CO.), maybe I'll goto the BB that is a few blocks from my house, and have them hook me up. To ensure that there's no screw-ups, I would prefer to do this in person, instead of online through BB's site. Also allows me a chance to play with the phone a bit in person - before taking the plunge! :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qipengart:
South salt lake location. I will get mine next month.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Androidfreakz:
Well im getting up in the Morning and going to the mall, in my area all the retail store dont carry "contract" tmobile phones but the inside the mall does and he told me he already has them and that he has "enough".
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justsignbythex:
Where did you hear this? That's awesome! :eek:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HTMLSpinnr:
I checked in w/ the Goodyear, AZ store yesterday. One of the reps went through several inventory systems before he could get to the "ordered" amount for the Nexus S SKU.

I was looking over his shoulder and he confirmed that T-Mobile carrying stores in the Phoenix area will get 35 devices. All others will get 4. He wasn't worried about availability. That said, I'll probably be showing up between 6-7am anyway to secure a place in "line".
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sooevo:
I'll be up and early at my local best buy in Boston at the Roxbury/Dorchester Best Buy in south bay center. I'm hoping my fellow Bostonians don't even know what an Android phone is and i'll be the only one in line! I can only dream i guess...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] D_Rob:
Just curious. I'm sitting at mine in Chattanooga. For you westcoast people I'll see what their on hand amount is.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bob.zxr:
There's already a topic for this.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=875182
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulser_g2:
Thread closed. Please use original topic at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=875182
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
Best Buy Mobile in Malls NOT Best Buy big box store

In Chicago_burbs, I went to two big box store Best Buys to see the Nexus-S in person and play with it before I bought it. Both I went to, had none on display, and said only selling the full $529 version, and would not setup the phone in the store. I asked to see it at both stores, but said, only have them in the back, and have to talk to manager to look at the box :(

So, I went to the local shopping mall, with the Best Buy Mobile stores inside. They had a working display, and at 10:00am, had 9 people in line buying them. Very helpful staff there. I was sold, I liked the screen and light weight of it, and bought it there. Better battery life too, compared to my EVO is a huge plus.

Plus, the T-Mobile plan is way way cheaper. I go for the full package, unlimited minutes, data, and texts and price is $79 per month + tax. With no contract :) I bought the phone outright. My EVO with the same full unlimited package was $130+ per month, so I am saving almost $50 per month. Plus T-Mobile seems to be the top Android carrier, they get the Nexus phones every year, and had the very first Android before everyone else with the G1.

Now how do I root this baby ?
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
Since SDE was released, who wants to build some fresh and shiny android which might be running someday side by side with AVOS (Archos Android)?

What do we need (openembedded?)?

Installation of Other OS:

root: /mnt/storage/rootfs.img

kernel:

Reboot into Recovery Mode (howto)

Recovery System -> Developer Edition Menu -> Flash Kernel and Initramfs

Connect USB and copy "zImage" and "initramfs.cpio.gz" to the Archos

Unmount Archos on PC (safe remove)

Press ok on Archos
[Gen8 Android Development] waz000000:
Don't you think dev's are already working on this right now?

OpenAS is a site to look at, there are a few in fact and some even on XDA.

your instructions are sort of nothing anyone who has booted the angstrom distribution can see that?

this thread is a bit pointless. your asking for devs to create something they are already working on and you can't help as you don't know how?
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
no, you just missed the point. I AM (or want to be) a dev, see my other thread about dvb-t support

and now I'm looking for some help and informations.

this thread should be dedicated to building gen8 android (2.2 / 2.3 / ...) roms, I don't care much about angstrom.

I'm not one of those annoying guys who just complaining about others work, I want to get my hands dirty and do some work! I already checked openaos out, there a lot of informations about gen6 and gen7 but not gen8, this is why I started this thread here.

summarizing informations, that's the point.
[Gen8 Android Development] waz000000:
ok fair enough :)

it's more likely though someone will do a port and use it over the current android system as apposed to using the SDE. Most dev's will be concentrating on other O/S's such as Ubuntu etc.

I can see why you want to do it but im not sure it will be done this way. We havent even managed to get perm root yet, sadly the archos wont get a lot of love I fear.
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
we have perm root, just use SDE and put an android in it :rolleyes: we can decide everything

edit: either you hack the gen8 and get rid of SDE and archos' android and put whatever you want on it or you stay with SDE and dual boot (sounds a less "brickable" choice to me)
[Gen8 Android Development] Techngro:
I have no idea what you're talking about, but I say go with your dreams and keep up the good work (whatever work that may be).

Don't let anyone tell you you can't do it (whatever "it" may be). Any contribution to making my A70 better is a + in my book.
[Gen8 Android Development] waz000000:
But it's pointless having android 2.2 / 2.3 running alongside android 2.2 / 2.3

it would be a complete waste of time especially as archos are currently working on it anyway.

It would achieve nothing, the SDE would be much better used running ubuntu/winxp or other, running android as a secondary boot option is a waste of development time and I cant see anyone wanting to do it?

by all means join in getting a good distro to run but not another version of android when all we are missing is root anyway. I think your getting confused as to what SDE is used for.
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
why would someone want to run ubuntu on this hardware? winxp is out of scope as it doesn't support arm processors.

why shouldn't we have root in SDE?? The SDE is the only way (so far, gen8 hasn't been hacked yet) to get perm root and custom roms.

why won't you just use SDE to run custom android roms? why it has to be ubuntu or any other bloated linux distribution?
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
no it's not, because archos won't let us do customizations. it would be easy for archos to let us perm root everything but they won't. so what are you going to do to make android comfortablier and less buggy on gen8? a) hack it and flash custom roms and may brick it or b) use sde and flash custom roms without the possibility to brick it
[Gen8 Android Development] Hexidecimal:
Agreed, who cares if you have more then one build of Android on a device? On other devices people have developed their own method of doing this exact thing. SDE is a great idea to let people load custom ROMs onto their device without fear of bricking. Now if someone would just get one developed....
[Gen8 Android Development] waz000000:
Archos have released the source code, the only thing that's missing is Root.

The distro is already pretty close to stock even the BT stack is android native allowing us to use wiimote etc.

Archos have done a pretty "pure" android release Cynogen's goal is get a pure android rom working. Stock it's not that far away now?

and what about ISO, windows 7 (mobile), tiny linux, yellow dog, many other great distro's. All im saying is wait until root is achieved (it's being worked on) nd see what happens to the default android then.

Your may be jumping the gun a bit developing something that's not needed ;)
[Gen8 Android Development] thefunkygibbon:
was agreeing with you until this post.

the point is that Archos have up until now done a bit of a shoddy job of their Android builds. We all want the archos tablet running smoothly and as best we can and also would like to have 2.3+ on our devices which is probably unlikely by any official means.

and saying archos are "currently working on it" is a little silly given what forum you are on! (whats the point in people making custom roms for HTC devices... HTC are working on it anyway?!)
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
@wazalotofzeros

oh come on, are you kidding me? why is it so hard to understand that a rooted android or even custom roms are wanted by a lot of archos users (see archosfans.com) :confused:

whats the point of installing any linux distribution instead of android?

why are you telling me its pointless to do custom roms for the Archos Gen8 while there are custom roms for a lot of other android devices?

I give up, please contribute something useful to this topic or stop posting offtopic.
[Gen8 Android Development] blazingwolf:
@waz000000,

don't want to participate in this then don't. There is no reason to put down others work though just because you think it is pointless.
[Gen8 Android Development] laptopfreek0:
Grand Idea

Personally I think this is a grand idea. At first when I saw the SDE I thought that was its whole purpose and that archos would start us off with a basic android version. But when it was released and it came with a barely working linux distro, it turned me off to installing SDE until something better can happen. I wouldn't mind seeing a micro version of ubuntu running on this, but the main problem is going to be the ram. If we are having issues with the ram on android what makes you think we will have better luck on a OS that wasn't intended to run on the archos. But hey more power to you. But on the other hand if we can build our own android firmwares, then we won't be dependent on Archos to decide whether or not to update to the next firmware. And saying Archos is working on it is like saying well the end of the world is coming. When IDK, but its coming!

Seriously. The delayed the launch by 2 months and then didn't deliver on their promise of launching with 2.2. They did come through, but with the crappiest 2.2 firmware I have ever used. Constant crashing, no wifi N, 200 mhz decrease in speed, and only a promise to fix it... eventually.

So the the OP. Go for it. I will help with what I can, but I haven't build a firmware yet except for the easy cook it yourself ones.
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
new firmware came out today! works great on my A101, no crashes or freezes so far: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=875393

Me neither but I'm willing to do if nobody else does, simply because of my DVB-T project in the other thread :D

€dit I'll give cyanogenmod a try
[Gen8 Android Development] waz000000:
ok fair enough so what would you rather?

a cynogen mod with archos firmware or linux distro (Whatever) and cynogenmod?

im not saying dont work on a custom rom, im saying work on a "proper" custom rom and use the dual boot option for something other than android.

1st step develop root

2nd step develop custom rom

3rd step install another distro

What im trying to say is, develop a "proper" custom rom and leave the dual boot option for something mind blowing!

as to blazingwolf im not trying to put anyone's work down (apart from the fact there isn't any yet this is pure concept)

I could very easily help you develop a working second rom for this but all im saying is wait a little while and see what happens ;) I cant hint anymore than that!!!!!!!!
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
who does what and when it gets released? ;)
[Gen8 Android Development] waz000000:
in the mean time have a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=610303

i know its different hardware but use a cynogen beta like the I9000 as a base, and work from there, even try the original firmware and look to cook that one.

you will be surprised how almost stock the archos one is :)
[Gen8 Android Development] _nz_:
the purpose of SDE is to give users a way to dual boot and be able to load "another" operating system. The Angstrom image we provide is just a demo and nothing else. You are free to put anything else, like Android 4.0, Meego, Maemo or whatever else you want...
[Gen8 Android Development] MoonPhantasm:
For whatever its worth, I don't think its pointless to run a second android OS either. It's a convenient backup if something go wrong with the custom OS, and whatever method that can be done to give us custom ROM is worth doing.

Good luck, chulri. I would help but I have no time atm thanks to my own dev projects. I'd be interested too, and if its not going to use up too much of my time, I might even join in and play around with it.
[Gen8 Android Development] Unmensch:
Would love a meego build :D

And I'm sure someone will come up with a way to have several SDE-OS on one device and make the possibility to change them as you please.
[Gen8 Android Development] leekeithlee:
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[Gen8 Android Development] faldiin:
Glad to see the pictures. I would love to see a more stable and widley support Linux. I am not sure if we can get that. Nice thought thou. There are some features I am missing on this tablet with the way they did things and the app issues.

It would be nice to change region info for the market and that this was support out of the box. We will lose out on some items because of that.

Eitherway I love my tablet. Would not give it up :)

Faldiin
[Gen8 Android Development] DougEdey:
A fully featured Ubuntu shouldn't be that hard to do, it's been on ARM devices for a while, I'm going to have a few weeks to work on it full time over Christmas so I'll be starting a thread (if there's not one already) with my progress
[Gen8 Android Development] faldiin:
I have not played with the SDE but dont you need to make it a bootable image on the Archos boot loader? I am asking so I know what I am playing with.

Faldiin
[Gen8 Android Development] chrulri:
@faldiin you only need three files: kernel, initramfs and rootfs (see my start post)
[Samsung Mesmerize] ganzhimself:
I'm going to put a link to this here, because it's relevant to the Mesmerize, but resides in the Fascinate forum. IMO, the Voodoo 5 kernel is awesome and should warrant some attention in the Mesmerize forums.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=871915
[Samsung Mesmerize] droidroidz:
Nice! Finally got our spot on the forum.....this should help a ton! We should compile a list of all threads that belong here, i know it has been confusing to keep everything straight up till now.
[Samsung Mesmerize] phidelt82:
Custom boot animation to go with kernels

I posted this in response to some questions in the other forum so I thought I would paste it here also.

OK, back at the house so here's a quickie on custom boot animation that you can add while using these kernels. I'll post a link so you can check one out.

First, you will will notice it's just a zip file named bootanimation.zip. It is a zip file that is NOT compressed. So when you zip your files up, remember to select store for compression level. This tripped me up for an hour when I first tried this out.

Inside is two folders labled part0 and part1, and a text file named desc.txt. Part0 is the first part of the boot animation that is run one time. Part1 is the part of the animation that can loop over and over depending on how long it needs to and how long it is told to. These two parts need to flow together to look good, so be mindful of this. Also, you don't want to make your boot animations too long. They take up space that can be very valuable on phones that have little to begin with. Ours don't have a problem, but some do.

Inside the folders is a series of PNG files. They are named and numbered. Keep it simple. These are boot_000003.png on up to the end. Make sure you have the zeros in front to keep the spaces, otherwise they could get played out of order. Keep you png files the same specs as your phone. Ours is 480 x 800 pixels. Make sure you work in pixels not inches or cm.

The desc.txt file can be a little confusing at first also. It's just numbers and letters. This particular one looks like this:

480 800 30

p 4 0 part0

p 0 0 part1

That just tells the phone it's looking at pictures that are 480x800 pixels and it's going to go thru them at 30 frames per second (15 is commonly used also). I'm not sure what most of the rest is for other than part0 and part1, obviously, but the second 0 is for looping. 0 tells it that part1 can loop infinitely if need be. So it will continue to play as many times as it needs, until the phone finishes booting.

This particular boot animation was a quickie that I downloaded from UOT Kitchen by going through the process of not selecting anything except the boot animation, finishing the build as a cyanogen based ROM, and the downloading the package. Once it was done, I just modified the png's and the txt file and it was ready. Stored it in a zip file and I put it on my sdcard. From there you can just move it to /system/media. I just use root explorer to do this, but others may want to push the files. Do it however you are comfortable. Once there, all you do is reboot and as long as your kernel is compatible, these are, then it will play the bootanimation.

This is the nexus one's colorful x. Nothing fancy, just a quick one to show you how it's done.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14910866/bootanimation.zip