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[Gen8 General] Cthugha:
Good idea :) But I'll wait with wiping until I know that one still works.

Btw, anyone knows if Titanium Backup app backup/restore works with the z4root temp root trick? I have 60+ apps on my A70........
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
downloading :D
[Gen8 General] ViPaSoft:
Just updates and I now have 2.0.71 installed.

It didn't wipe any of my settings or programs.

It does place another setting in 'ABOUT DEVICE' called 'POWER MANAGEMENT' with three choices,

...Overdrive

...Optimal

..Powersave

Going to test it now and see what's what.
[Gen8 General] chrulri:
it's mentioned in the changelog:
[Gen8 General] Hexidecimal:
Awesome. Maybe this will fix some of the performance issues. Also it figures this would come out on the day I decide to leave my tablet at home while I'm at work. Will be playing with this tonight.
[Gen8 General] czesiu:
is optimized flash there? :)
[Gen8 General] digibucc:
seems to me, at least in the few minutes since i've updated, that it doesn't freeze up switching between dolphin,downloads, and pulling the notice bar down. over the past few weeks that has gotten more and more annoying...

after updating, i went to market and installed flash from there. i don't know if it would ahve allowed me to do that with the optimized version there or not. i would hope not.
[Gen8 General] elmerohueso:
No. Still waiting for Adobe's approval (don't know how long it takes, but the Vega tablet just got their optimized Flash yanked because Adobe didn't approve it).
[Gen8 General] elmerohueso:
That's the generic release of Flash. The optimized version will come from Archos once Adobe approves it.
[Gen8 General] blazingwolf:
For those that love Quadrant scores: 1331 just below Nexus One 2.2+ :D
[Gen8 General] frank35:
cool, any linpack scores yet?
[Gen8 General] blazingwolf:
12.423 mflops
[Gen8 General] frank35:
ah, k. about the same as before. some other nice additions at least.
[Gen8 General] vtskillz:
Updated now z4root wont work
[Gen8 General] fnetf:
That`s Right No more Temp-Root !!!
[Gen8 General] JeremySS:
As others have said, root is gone. However, it seems to be running much smoother with fewer freezes.
[Gen8 General] cpimentelpr:
That's bad... so no more root apps... I'm going to wait not ready to loose my Titanium Backups neighter my swap memory.
[Gen8 General] MoonPhantasm:
Same... Not up to losing my titanium backups... I really hope Archos didn't disable temp root on purpose, or that'll be pretty annoying.

I'm concerned of the 'fix for quadrant benchmark app'.... Does that mean quadrant benchmark optimization? If so then that ruins the entire point of benchmarking... We don't want high unreliable numbers. I just find it awkward that its targeted to one app, rather than a general OS speed fix.
[Gen8 General] czesiu:
How is Voice search working on your updated devices?

it 'almost' freezes here... system/bin/mediaserver eats all the CPU :(
[Gen8 General] BKGarrison:
When running quadrant before it would take forever at one of the steps, almost like a hang. Now it breezes right through.

I'm thinking something was hanging it up causing inaccurate scores

no proof of this though
[Gen8 General] xguntherc:
yes Quadrant was hanging on a CPU step, now it shouldn't.. it's not cheating the score

How is the overall speed guys? I've not updated as I don't wanna loose root and all my apps n what not. Hopefully z4 will get updated if thats all it needs..
[Gen8 General] neonflx:
how do i flash this into my archos 101, thanks
[Gen8 General] BKGarrison:
It's working great for me, the NTFS support is excellent, now my external hard drives are a breeze on the 101

everything seems faster, also seems to get a little warmer on the side with the processor which makes sense

This removes much of the need for z4 in my opinion. Although TI backup would still be nice
[Gen8 General] adibadi:
I upgraded and it's working great. Overall it's much smoother, and my launcher doesn't restart anymore, like it used to before the update.

My quadrant score was 1390 in case anyone cares about that.
[Gen8 General] BKGarrison:
Connect 101 to computer

copy firmware_archos_android_gen8.aos to the base directory on the 101

in windows go to -> safely remove usb device

on tablet it will update the library then it should ask you if you want to install this firmware.

select yes, and plug the tablet into a power source
[Gen8 General] xguntherc:
I read root still works, just try again if it fails. I did learn if you check, then uncheck, then check again the debug mode. Then go to z4. it would finish and WORK.

Also in settings there is now a POWER Management where you can enable the full 1 GHz of processor power with a power save Governor.. or set to save mode and it goes to 800 Mhz. Personally I'd do full throttle or even Overclock 24/7.. and just like the 2.2 update. my Archos wont find the update when I search for new firmware.. lame
[Gen8 General] e4xda:
Is flash running any better on this firmware?

Does anyone have the droidx version that gregmatterson posted? Is that running any better?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=863930
[Gen8 General] bufflehead:
Sorry, just to be clear here as it is very important.

Are you saying that you have successfully temp rooted your Archos tablet running 2.0.71? You personally that is.

Thx.

Don.
[Gen8 General] xguntherc:
me, no. I've not Temp rooted the new Firmware. I've temp rooted the original Android 2.2.1 we got. But I read on another post that someone else was able to root and use swap on the NEWEST firmware. I still haven't got the notification to update FW
[Gen8 General] xguntherc:
Don't take my word. I've not done it myself yet, but this guy said new Firmware was able to be rooted. with z4

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9863119&postcount=18
[Gen8 General] Pax!!!:
Mine 1573 (overdrive) 1443(powersafe)1379(optimal)

No
[Gen8 General] oic0:
Ive got it, ill try it as soon as I get home.
[Gen8 General] blazingwolf:
So far that is one guy who has it out of many that don't. I think I will take his comments with a grain of salt. The temp root does not work on mine so far. Though I'm not worried about it. The fixes and additions far outweigh they need for root.
[Gen8 General] anurbanlegend:
Read his post again, he didn't know there was a 2.0.71 out and was still on 2.0.54...
[Gen8 General] bufflehead:
Sadly, the guy was not actually running 2.0.71

Don.
[Gen8 General] digibucc:
i recognize that, if you would have read my post you would hopefully recognize i never even came close to hinting that it was archos' optimized version.

"after updating, i went to market and installed flash from there. i don't know if it would ahve allowed me to do that with the optimized version there or not. i would hope not."

meaning, i would hope the optimized version is recognized as flash, and therefore does not allow you to install the market version over it.

and if it WERE the optimized version, why would it EVER be found in google market? considering Archos tabs aren't even supposed to have it!
[Gen8 General] sublimejosh2000:
My 101 is frozen.. 6 reboots..

It gets frozen and acts like it doesn't want to do anything..

Go into settings and it takes literally 5 minutes..

*Update 1*** this was after the new update.. Media Libray tries to updae and force closes my Launcher Pro... I finally got to do a few things so I removed all my widgets.. and now trying to make something happen... ****

I would suggest removing the SD card if it has media and removing widgets when you do the update, seems like it tries to do way too much at one time when it comes up the first time. ****
[Gen8 General] Techngro:
Has any one loaded the new market .apk with the new firmware?

I don't know whether I should load Gapps4archos_v4 and then load the new market, or if I should just load the new market.
[Gen8 General] digibucc:
i did a system restore yesterday, and then did the gapps4 install. then today i did the firmware update, and it is working much better.

i think, upon another reset - I would do it reset->firmware->market... though i'm not sure it makes a difference.
[Gen8 General] OminousE:
1562

1396

All apps killed / running

All set to overdrive, A70

Updated from 2.0.54 -> .71

Already had v4 market installed.
[Gen8 General] oic0:
Tried flash, the optimized sorta one, same as before. Works but system fights to play smooth and takes a moment to stop stuttering
[Gen8 General] x64newcomer:
Upgraded from 2.0.54 to 2.0.71 smoothly. :D:D:D
[Gen8 General] archosale:
Yeah, I just did my update to the new firmware, everything runs much better now. It didn't effect any apps including the Market. I don't have Z4boot installed, so I don't know if its gonna to work or not on this new version.
[Gen8 General] Rijal:
Upgraded...now crawling

I've upgraded my firmware, but not having the same experience as everyone else. My device has slowed down to a crawl. I'm getting a lot of FC's and freezes. I've had to reboot 4 times so far in the past 15-20 minutes since upgrading. :(
[Gen8 General] liigo:
Good news, I will upgrade it.
[Gen8 General] frank35:
3rd run of 3 in a row got this on quadrant.

Also seeing Gameloft games run very smoothly without FC now.

Kudos to Archos.
[Gen8 General] ahhhhwhoa:
what gameloft games are you running that scale correctly for the screen? all the ones ive tried playing dont fit the screen correctly and therefor the screen doesnt respond in the location that i am pressing?

on another note i did the update and can say its running awesome, smooth with most everything now and no root overclock needed! thank you archos!
[Gen8 General] frank35:
asphalt5, hawx, and dungeon hunter all run well for me. i'm on a 7 incher.
[Gen8 General] sublimejosh2000:
Rijal - You might want to wipe it with a Android Reset and do it from scratch. It will still come up with the new S/W but with no apps. I did mine that way, and I was FC and rebooting a hundred times in a row after the update. Not sure why we are the only two who had issues, but doing a android reset seems to have fixed mine.
[Gen8 General] AllenPapapetrou:
From my A70S - 2.0.71 with Archos Launcher:

Quadrant Scores:

I noticed Quadrant Scores varied a lot in the results I've seen so I ran 3 benchmarks in a row. 1st one after Power On and next two after 1st one:

Powersave - 1333 1503 1491

Optimal - 1316 1510 1407

Overdrive - 1344 1503 1419

Allen
[Gen8 General] hugsrwarmy:
A32 here, upgraded firmware to .71, did benchmarks 6 times and got:

1475

1556

1723

1697

1461

1630

with an average of 1590.3.

The test were ran one right after the other in Quadrant. My tablet decided to freeze at the I/O test at the 7th try, at "Database writes".

I have a feeling that the scores are varying as I restart the test again because of Android's memory management system

One of the lowly ones who just didn't have enough cash for fork out for the 70 or the 101, so I don't get any of the power management settings, but damn. It looks like every Gen 8 device now is doing roughly the same, regardless of screen size, which I think it's a plus for Archos.

Also, there wasn't any reset required from Android itself, and I don't think it's needed. I actually think it runs faster. Or it's just my hyped up hallucination that updates always help.
[Gen8 General] Kashban:
As with every benchmark you need to run them several times... to minimize impacts from any initialization procedures (memory requests, loading of resources and so on).

My HTC desire ranks at ~1450 overclocked at 1152 MHz, and I'm very pleased to see that the archos keeps up with this new firmware. Highest I got was ~1600 points on overdrive. Desire could do more, though, if it wasn't using a2sd+, thus reducing the file i/o so much.

Interesting though: The game level is much faster on the archos whereas the planet/moon scene is much faster on the desire (45fps) and on the archos crawls at 7fps with some graphics errors on the moon (black triangles). Guess there is a bug in the OpenGL implementation on the archos.
[Gen8 General] hugsrwarmy:
Really? My A32 is getting a consistent 21 fps, no graphic errors. And on the DNA one, a consistent 19fps. Which Archos are you using?
[Gen8 General] quint__:
Has anyone tried to install Market after an update with a full wipe?
[Gen8 General] hugsrwarmy:
kenyu73 says it's stable, so it should work. Works for me.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=867303
[Gen8 General] Kashban:
101 8GB

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[Gen8 General] grassfrog:
I ´ve tried "gAppsInstaller_v4 - Froyo" after a full wipe, fully working, no probs so far.

Archos 101
[Gen8 General] Techngro:
No dude, it's not just you. I did a full reinitialization (wiped everything) and then upgraded. It didn't upgrade the first time, so I had to do it again. Then everything was good for a little while. I installed gApps v4 and then all of my other apps. Then it all went to hell. My A70 freezes constantly, restarts itself, or i've had to force restart at least 10 times since I upgraded last night. It is horrible.

I'm gonna do another reinitialization and upgrade.

LOL. My A70 just shutdown and rebooted as I was typing this.
[Gen8 General] digibucc:
the system has been working great since the update for me

however, last night i put music on and went to sleep as i normally do. it plays through the playlist and then stops, as it's not on repeat.

this morning, the light was off. I tried to to turn it on and it wouldn't. I plugged it into power and no go. held the power button for a good 20+ seconds, nothing. so i set it down for a while.

came back, just clicked the power button like 5-6 times in a row, and it started booting up.

I don't know why it shut down, i don't know why it wouldn't boot. but i assume it's connected to the update. that's not necessarily the case but i assume so.
[Gen8 General] darren1:
Im getting lots of freezes and reboots on my A70. Battery is getting hammered too.
[Gen8 General] camiel1979:
Might be you've installed apps that ain't working like they should do.

Working fine here on a 101 8GB. did a factory reset -> frimware update -> gappsv4
[Gen8 General] darren1:
I read on another thread that Voice Search was causing problems.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=876653

I had previously updated the stock version in google market. I cleared the data and uninstalled the update back to stock Voice Search and so far my A70 is working well.
[Gen8 General] raminator:
works awesomely good on my 32. performance seems to be a little better and no single freeze in games like NFS Shift or Krazy Kart that freezed alot before...

so this is nice =)
[Gen8 General] $aur0n:
Hi,

Anyone tried so far to downgrade firmware? There are previous AOS files available... - could anyone with 0.71 try to get back to 0.54 (if there will be urgent need to get root for example)? - and let us know results :)

ps. (I'll stick with 0.54 for now - Archos has far too little memory to _work_ without swap)
[Gen8 General] Nismor2:
Good update, thanks for listening Archos. The default browser still won't scroll up and down sometimes. Orientation and pinch zoom works but it seems like it's stop responding to touch scroll up/down.This happens randomly so it seems like it's a bug and it was present on the last firmware also. Thanks
[Gen8 General] protoism:
reinstalling .54

tried to reinstall .54 as not happy without temp root plus not happy with the heat and batter issues plus a few other things - anyway wouldnt work just got your hardware does not support this firmware aggh - should have read the feed back before updating - only thing now is to try and sale it
[Gen8 General] pwhooftman:
Quadrant scores are BS

My Archos reports a quadrant score of 1347 in the Overdrive setting.

This is about the same score as on my Samsung Galaxy S phone with the latest JPU Firmware.

But, with those comparable scores, my Galaxy S just flies through screens & apps, where the Archos is pathetically slow. On the Archos, screens just judder when scrolling, apps show several seconds of grey screen before popping up, and there are still lags here and there. If you would place it next to an iPad, it would be like comparing Windows Mobile 6.0 to the iPhone iOS..

I my opinion, based on user experience, the quadrant score should be half of that of the Galaxy S. While both sport a 1Ghz processor. I sure hope the kernel gets decompiled soon so the xda-devs can have a go.
[Gen8 General] gbohm:
i am scoring around 1650 which doesn't say much but i can say it (101) runs smooth. ...

i think it is a good achievement from archos they listened and made a great job(if u compare it to the first 2.2.1)

if they go on like that it will be a fantastic device in no time

only problem so far - my wifi is dropping too often i will try a factory reset

so far biggest improvement with a minor update i have ever seen
[Gen8 General] ArchosGamer:
That sounds like a rash decision. What do you need temp root for? The CPU speed can now be adjusted in settings, so you don't need root for that feature. If you want to backup your system there are other alternatives to Titanium Backup. If its producing too much heat or your battery is loosing its charge quicker than you want you can always switch it to powersave mode in settings which puts it in the same state you had in .54 firmware. There is no reason you have to set it in one mode and never change out of it. If you're playing a game you can set it in overdrive mode, and when you're done you can quickly and easily switch out of it. You should check what applications you have running when it gets hot. Other people are using .71 without complaining about heat problems, so your system is configured differently. At some time someone will figure out how to temp root the system again, and when that time comes you could be happy to kept the system or you could regret that you sold it instead of giving it a chance.
[Gen8 General] hextex:
Great update. To me, the memory issue doesn't FEEL like it's a problem as before.
[Gen8 General] jpanggy:
hello,

I am still hanging on to the .54 firmware because:

I really need root/temp root for market enabler,

I live in Indonesia so .... market here is restricted to free only, without market enabler ..... there goes most of the apps.

Is there a workaround for market enabler without root/temp root? or a similar app

Any help would be much appreciated
[Gen8 General] koba:
look here this app is good http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=877241
[Gen8 General] jpanggy:
@koba

Thanks, but this is similar to appsbrain, I can see all apps from appsbrain but I can't download them straight from them, to dl apps, appsbrain still starts up market and detects my location and then tells me the apps is not in the market (even free ones). It sucks to live in this place.

Edit:

nevermind, sorry for being a noob, went and searched more info on google and did it through combination of appsbrain and fast web install.

again sorry, first android experience.
[Gen8 General] zamis1969:
i formatted my a101,but got buck 0.71. even when i put 0.54 in

my bee just nee :-)
[Gen8 General] jutley:
I am scoring 1620 on quadrant on my archos 43 android tablet not bad i need root so i can mess with build.prop and change lcd density and catch and othe hacks that will increase quadrant score hope to get root soon.
[Gen8 General] Rijal:
Thanks sublimejosh, thats exactly what i ended up doing. Working much better now. Wouldn't classify the performance as flying, but much more stable and no FCs. I have needed a restart now and then as it hangs every so often, and launcher takes a while to load. Going to try adw and see if that helps.
[Gen8 General] WillWord:
Battery Drains

Updated to latest Foyo firmware v2.0.71 previously had no issues, now the following is happening

Not always wakes from sleep (if left for over 1 hour)

Battery drains overnight!!

Archos 70, I have tried it on the top two power settings problem persists, checked for misbehaving apps (watchdog Lite) no offenders. Had 44% battery last night zero this morning. plug in power cord reboots and charges ok, any solutions or do I RMA it?

Thanks
[Gen8 General] pwhooftman:
I experience exactly the same thing on my 101. It's firmwar erelated, so i'm sure it will be fixed. In the morning, I have to press the power button 10 seconds to turn the Archos totally off (that makes the green led starts to glow after 10 secs). Then i am able to boot the Archos again.

Also currently tracking battery drainage with SystemPanelApp. CPU load is floating around 10% all night, 1-3% is normal. Currently im suspecting the email app (was a battery drainer on Froyo on almost all devices, also keeping CPU pegged at 10%)), i've set it to Never retrieve mail for now.

Edit: it's not the email app. I rebootted the 101 this morning 8:00 Am without changing email settings, and CPU load was 1-2% up until this moment. Something else is causing it. Unfortunately, SystemPanel shows it was "system processes". That doesn't desgnate the real offender, because "system processes" is just serving what another app is asking. So, the quest continues...
[Gen8 General] sondeu:
good update, everything running fast! I really like it BUT my Archos is rebooting every few minutes when in "standby" (short press power button)
[Gen8 General] JasonOT:
Much better than the last update. The camera is still backwards though.
[Gen8 General] DaMan:
Does anybody know how to connect with wireless N instead of G.

My router is enabled for G and N on channel 8

Streaming speed is very low with wirelsss G, movies tend to lag a lot.
[Gen8 General] z06mike:
When you put it to "sleep" are you just tapping the power button or are you using the deep sleep feature? If you use the deep sleep, your battery should remain just where you left it. If you just push the power button, it will continue to drain.
[Gen8 General] e4xda:
I'm seeing the same behavior with my A101 - it will not connect to my router at any speed greater than 54mbps. My Nexus One and my eeePC both connect at greater than 100mbps (depending on the distance to the router) so I'm assuming my router configuration is ok. There isn't a whole lot you we can do with the settings on the A101 so I think we're playing the waiting game with Archos.

Another point - I switched my router to N only mode and the A101 could not connect to the router. Kept trying to obtain an ip but never actually did. I'm beginning to wonder if they actually put an N radio in it...
[Gen8 General] jab12:
mines does that sometimes as well
[Gen8 General] mrdoc:
my A70 does that too...:(
[Gen8 General] richdaley:
Mine too but it doesn't always seem like a full reboot. It shows the Archos boot screen for 5-10 seconds and then comes back to the home screen.

Other than that, it runs fast with no more freezing.
[Gen8 General] ArchosGamer:
standby bug

Someone recently put out the theory that he/she thought it was only occuring when the system has both wifi and bluetooth enabled when the system enters standby. If that's the case then you may see the issue subside by disabling one or the other.
[Gen8 General] richdaley:
Thanks ArchosGamer...that seems possible. I usually have both running. I will disable bluetooth and see if it helps.
[Gen8 General] madsquabbles:
mine has done it twice and i've never even used bluetooth.

the system it tons slower than when i had x.x.54 with auto memory manager. i used t be able to have 3 tabs open and stream a naughty video and return back to my tabs with no problems. now if i have 2 tabs open xscope close after launching the video and relaunches up on returning. even killing everything before surfing it still does it.

on the bright side ntfs support is very nice! i gave up root for that feature alone. since i have a galaxy s, nookcolor and ipad for better web browsing the slow down isn't really much an issue. the primary use for the 101 is the multimedia functions and the last update made it even better for my use.
[Gen8 General] sondeu:
Unfortunatley not... I'm mostly using only wifi.... :/