yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] igor.tonky:
radio works independently of rom and controls voice calling, data and bluetooth, it has nothing to do with root, bootloader or s-off. think drivers for the phone radio chip. it's just a partition on the internal storage that have the binary to control it, and can be updated(flashed), when engineers release better drivers.

again, radio is independent and does not affect of all this root/s-off/cid stuff, it's that you can't flash radio, if you do not have the eng hboot. and you need s-off to flash eng hboot. and you need root activate the s-off hack.

i personally tested only 26.05.02.15 on punkycow's build of GB(http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=882427), and it worked just fine. generally - any radio should be working with any rom, because they are independent of each other.

there are cases, when roms are using radio-specific features, but it's generally safe to assume your radio is fine, if it was release in the last 3-4 months.
[Desire HD General] nandihno:
Ok thanks..but bit confuse still.

So ok i have root eng s off and cwm.

So what you are saying is that if I am able to flash any radio..

It won't remove my eng s off or root or cwr? From what I understand is that issue appears to be only that i can not revert to a previous version of a radio is that right?
[Desire HD General] broncogr:
Go get Radio-SOFF befora you start flashing radios...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=857537
[Desire HD General] igor.tonky:
if you flash only radio it won't remove eng hboot or root or cwr.

problems can only arise when you're flashing whole roms.

custom roms do not include(overwrite) radios, boot pratitions(eng hboot), or recovery(cwr), so they are left intact and you only get the software update.

not so with htc roms. they usually include and overwrite _everything_, including radio(which is usually good), hboot(bad, you're losing the ability to flash via fastboot), recovery(overwriting cwr, losing the ability to flash zip files from sdcard, like whole roms) and superuser(losing root).

so the only good thing in the htc rom is the radio.img, which can be extracted and safely flashed, as it won't overwrite anything else.

you can check the contents of the rom zip file, and see what files are gonna be applied(look for *.img files).
[Desire HD General] makbil:
Has anyone tried 1.75.771.2_Radio_12.28g.60.140f_26.05.02.15_M_test _162580 ?
[Desire HD General] nandihno:
Excellent thanks so therefor the only issue is not able to revert back to an earlier radio?

And what radio is best for cm ?
[Desire HD General] igor.tonky:
i did, check my earlier posts in this thread. in short - everything, except BT audio controls work.

You can flash radios freely, reverting them as you like.

However, if you flashed a rom and it overwrote your eng hboot(which would be any official rom), then not only you will lose the ability to flash(and revert) radios, but it will also reset all the hacks you put to get it.

see, normally, to flash(or revert to) a radio you need eng hboot. how to get it? you need to place an image of eng hboot on your phone, and overwrite a partition on your internal storage.

how would you go about that? in the stock rom you can't write anything to internal strorge(you would require root), and hboot partition is read only.

here's where the "root and s-off" comes to play. but it only works on 1.32.405.6 base, and stock(or particular cusom) kernels.

after you flash new stock rom, you lose the hboot, root and recovery. and the hacks to restore them no longer work, since they rely on the particular version of the kernel. and you're stuck with this rom/radio/no root/no recovery, until someone makes a hack for this partucular version of sofrware.

thankfully, this is where the superCID, s-off come to play! :)

the eng hboot was the first method to allow you to flash stuff. it's a software method. you gain root access, you exploit kernel to allow you flashing hboot, you flash hboot. then hboot stays and works, until overwritten.

however, there is another way to allow overwriting partitions on your phone(like freely writing hboot, or recovery) - and it's the superCID/s-off method(check it here, as broncogr advised).

what it does is telling your device, that no matter what happens as software changes - it will be allowed to overwrite partitions. this way, if you flashed a rom and it overwrote your hboot and recovery, thereby removing ability to flash radios or anything else - you would be able to download and install CWMod, which could be able to install cwr without all those hacking procedures. or you could freely flash the eng hboot, allowing you to replace radios again.

so, to sum it up - get superCID/s-off(radio s-off) to be able to freely restore cwr and eng hboot after flashing any stock roms. they would allow you to flash anything from recovery or from fastboot.

as for the best radio - read responses and try them all :) in my experience 26.05.02.15 is bluetooth buggy, but okay otherwise, 26.04.03.30 is good and stable.
[Desire HD General] iraqisniper:
...

Hey Can i flash with clockmode ? ......
[Desire HD General] nandihno:
thanks! :D

I just flashed my first radio and all went smoothly ;)

i grabbed the 26.04.02.17_M2 as that was the one that Kali over at CM was recommending for the CM battery issue..

thanks a lot! :D

i will try to get radio s-off as i only have eng s off...

much appreciated ! :D

merry xmas!
[Desire HD General] IxXxI:
the RADIO from 21st December works perfect thanks!
[Desire HD General] iraqisniper:
Please answear Can i flash radio with clockmode the 17th december the 26.04.02.17_M2 ?
[Desire HD General] IxXxI:
It is easy with fastboot. Only fastboot flash radio radio.img that is all.
[Desire HD General] jonata:
pleae can you tell me the link to download ?

tks

NB: also BT, GPS works well ? and battery life ?

tks for reply
[Desire HD General] iraqisniper:
So there are no way to install it from CM ?
[Desire HD General] aussie1234:
Radio Install

I think so far radio's can only be installed by "fastboot' commands.

This is quite easy.

Dont forget to install Radio S-Off on your DHD and when you eventually get to Fastboot on the bootloader menu, press power button once more to get into the red coloured Fastboot menu.

Cheers

Aussie
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
It's cool man, you can try other radios.

I'm on T-Mobile UK but still try Cingular, Telus, etc.

I'm using Orange at the moment and it's great for signal strength and battery life, but I think Cingular still remains a little bit better for battery life... on my phone and in my area at least.
[Desire HD General] semsem1969:
Hello,

flashed the new radio(GB) Yesterday,

Battery not so good(lost 20%) while sleeping over night(7hours) no wifi or data on.

by middle of the day went to 60% only listen to music for one hour,some sms and two phone calls(10 min long)

but the signal has improved ..many places i had almost no signal i have a signal now.

anyway can not judge it now have to try for a few days.

then i guess i have to choose.(battery life against Signal strength)
[Desire HD General] eliashadow:
newest radio problem?

+1 semsem1969

I have a problem and i dont know if it my newest radio's problem or not...After flashed yesterday latest radio (26.06.04.14_M)i tried to flashed 2 differents cm7 roms(i only used sense roms until now)...Both roms seems to flashed successfully,but when get in after enter pin code suddenly drop me back to pin code again, and again,and again(bootloops)...

Of course i did full wipes before(with full wipe 1.3 and/both manual wipes) and install rom throuth CWM 3.0.0.6 twice...

I didnt have this problem when i flashed sense rom after..

Can anyone told me if this is radio problem???
[Desire HD General] leith51:
So not a radio problem

My other phone is an iPhone it makes a great coaster but not to good as a hammer
[Desire HD General] vinnieminnie:
You did do a reboot after installing the rom? It's quite important to do that after every time you flash a CM7 rom.
[Desire HD General] KeyperOS:
No, that's not a radio problem, sth went wrong with the ROM flashing.

Try re-downloading the ROM in case sth went wrong the first time, copy it to the SD card, boot into recovery and do the following wipes:

From Advanced: Wipe Dalvik Cache

From mount/unmount: Wipe Boot, System and ext-sd

From main screen: Wipe Data/Factory Reset

Then install the new ROM.

About the radio, I actually got GREAT results, great signal and a really good battery life!
[Desire HD General] BumAround:
The only way to find out is to try it yourself, at least for 2-3 days. :)
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
That would be my advice too.

For example, I'm in Scotland and the Cingular radio works best for me (well, best for battery life but signal strength is as good as latest Orange UK).
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
So honestly which one is better to run on O2 UK?

The recommended one:

[*] 4th January 2011: Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF - HTC WWE 1.72.405.3 R2

or

25th February 2011: Radio_12.28g.60.140f_26.05.05.27_M3 - Orange UK 1.84.61.2

??

Who has tried both and what were the results with battery, signal etc..
[Desire HD General] Shidapu:
Been running Lee's Gingerbread Sense rom for a couple of days, flashed the new Radio Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M_Test straight away..

I've been running it for a week now (Longest i've done with a test radio) and all i can say is, that its way more efficient with Battery than the M2_SF radio..

Signal strenght seems better aswell compared to the former, Battery life really isn't compareable at all, M2_SF drags about 15-20% at idle over a night, and the Ginger Radio drags about 4-5% in idle over night..

So im gonna recommend the new Ginger radio any day.

Goodluck!
[Desire HD General] broncogr:
I am also compteplating to use the test radio with Leedroid's gingerbread...
[Desire HD General] JamesBarnes:
Here is the MD5 for the actual radio.img rather than the Zip.

Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M_Test:

71BA0AFE14B1CAF5BA29DA6F3E2AB755

EDIT:

Holy crap that radio has MASSIVELY increased my HSPA signal. Gone from 1 bar if im lucky to 3.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
That's cool! I'm thinking of running it as well with CM7.

How stable is the radio?
[Desire HD General] Blinkydamo:
Hi guys, question about the new test radio, will it work with non gingerbread Roms as well? I'm trying both gingerbread and non-gingerbread Roms so don't want to have to keep changing radio's.

Cheers in advance.

Blinky
[Desire HD General] JamesBarnes:
It will work fine with a 2.2 rom, im using it with 2.2 right now :)
[Desire HD General] Shidapu:
The Radio has been very faithful to me for these 7 days, Bluetooth works great(Drags alot of juice though), Wifi with 2 concrete walls gives full Wifi Signal even when holding my hand on the wifi antenna, the mA usage by Wifi is very low, as my battery can last up to 2 days now without recharge.. HSPA seems to drag way more battery than Wifi atleast, but not to much to notice any big change in battery life though.

Being at work for 8 hours and comming back home, only using idle and the normal settings for Syncing, and normal usage, start screen, watch some new Facebook posts, run a game for 20 min, read rss news, mailing for about 10 mins,1 hour phonecalls, brings me down about 20% on a daily usage.

HSPA signal is allways 5 bars for me now, i usually had about 3-4 bars with M2_SF radio.

Phone also seems alot more snappier, reacts better.

Though when recovering from idle, the phone is very slow for about 15 seconds, might be the Ginger rom having trouble waking up, or the radio being slow to give more juice faster..

Overall, a very good radio!
[Desire HD General] pockobg:
After flashing Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M_Test can i revert back to Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF ?
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Wow, that's much more battery than I'm getting out of the M2 radio with roughly the same use.

Gonna flash it tonight and see how it goes during the working week.
[Desire HD General] Blinkydamo:
Yes
[Desire HD General] leith51:
Short answer yes I'm been using it since it came out on leedroid 2.2.2 works fantastic just need to give couple of days to bed in and your away

My other phone is an iPhone it makes a great coaster but not to good as a hammer
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Just flashed the new test radio, will be using it over the next week and will report how it goes.

So far so good!
[Desire HD General] dlads:
Which one?

Hi all,

I'm currently using Core droid 3.2 which is build number 1.84.661.1 CL325797 rel keys.

Am i right in assuming that i should be matching that build number to the one which is on this thread?

I know how to flash radios i just wanted clarification.

Thanks.

EDIT: Just checked the radio on this thread and it says it's for telus, I don't think i should use that one should i?
[Desire HD General] JamesBarnes:
I wouldn't worry too much about that.

You can try radios from other builds, if you are in the UK and on T-Mobile i can recommend the latest test radio (not that it matters if you are not, but I am and have had good results; signal wise)

Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M_Test - HTC Ace Gingerbread S Generic 2.16.0.0
[Desire HD General] dlads:
Cheers m8,

I've been under the assumption that you should really match to your build number, so what's the best radio then ? I'm on orange uk, and although i do use tmobile masts at times, it's usually just orange.

Thanks again.

EDIT: i'm trying this one at the moment, r Radio 26.05.05.27_M3 - (Orange UK 1.84.61.2)

I don't really want a test radio, i'm trying to get the most out of my battery and still have good signal strength, i'm never affected by actual call signal problems, but the 3g and sometimes gps can be a little temperamental, i'm looking for good battery and good signals across the board, surely there must be a good list somewhere, which was used by ppl and rated by them.
[Desire HD General] JamesBarnes:
This thread is that list :)

Its hard to get a specific "this radio will have this effect" summary because battery life / signal strength / speed etc are all so dependent on network and physical location that results differ a lot between users, even on identical hardware.

I used the M3 since it was posted and it was certainly the best i had used until i flashed the test radio.

The M3 radio gave better signal and battery, on Tmobile in Canterbury.

The test radio had massively increased my 3g/HSPA signal, but its too early for me to tell with battery yet.

As i said, your experience may vary, good luck!
[Desire HD General] leith51:
+1 on the test radio I'm on t-mobile UK and its been the best so far also notice battery drain is not as bad had it running since it came out

Works great with the leedroid 2.2.2 Rom after a couple of days for it to bed in.

I even have my auto sync on and still getting 24 hours use

My other phone is an iPhone it makes a great coaster but not to good as a hammer
[Desire HD General] dlads:
Kind of like a sporadic trial and error really isn't it, I know what you mean as there are different elements what with geography and device coming into play, I've got a spare battery and i know what radio i've had and what i don't like now, if this one see's me right then i'll stick with it but i know my journey to work and when I get signal on 3g and H and when i don't so i can see if theres some improvement with this one, i'll test the test one out on the way home, see if theres a difference.

Cheers m8, thanks for your time.
[Desire HD General] JLneonhug:
Thanks for the comment guys, (im t-mobile in London area) ive tried the one originally suggested on the leedroid Rom page, then the M3 Orange UK. It seems ok but not great.

Think ill give the test one a go later. Why would it need a few days to bed in? I've tried them both for a couple of days and have not seen any major improvements.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
When I first flashed the test it wasn't looking to good but after a day it settled down a week later my battery life is great

My other phone is an iPhone it makes a great coaster but not to good as a hammer
[Desire HD General] Shidapu:
Noticed any lag yet when recovering from idle? Just curious if its a rom problem or radio.
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
That's probably more down to CPU. Do you use Smartass in SetCPU by any chance?
[Desire HD General] dlads:
What rom are you running and at what clock speeds? Might be that it's set to a low speed and has lag when waking, if thats the case then raise the lower clock speed or use a different governor.

I've never had any lag no matter what the radio, Rev HD was the only rom which my phone didn't agree with, the phone would freeze from time to time, shame really cos i like the theme i had on it (elegant blue).

Core droid is the best sense rom imho, using an undervolted kernel on 1.2ghz, it's all i need cos the phone is so smooth with it and when i overclock it to lets say 1996mhz, i don't really see any improvements (or very little if any)

All i need now is a good radio, I'm trying the one i mentioned in an earlier post, it's 12.28g.60.140fU_26.05.05.27_M3, it's ok up to now but i want to test out the test rom which you guys have been talking about, might flash it today while at work. :)
[Desire HD General] igor.tonky:
yep, i have wakeup lags with bfs kernels, it's not the radio, of course.

are you running hrkfdn kernel/patch?
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
I've never got on well with Smartass so use OnDemand in SetCPU with a 460max/245min Screen-Off profile.... no wake lag for me at all.

Might be worth a try if your phone seems slow on wake ;)
[Desire HD General] wuub:
Thanks for the thread ;)

Shouldn't this be a sticky ?
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
Have a free thanks on me... meant to hit quote :D

Anyway... it was decided that rather than have lots of sticky threads, all helpful threads were added to a "sticky roll-up" thread at the top ;)
[Desire HD General] Grant Barker:
Just for Reference this is the SoftBank Japan Stock Software info (Desire HD):

The Radio appears to be the same as the first one listed on the first page of this thread apart from the extra letter U in the middle.
[Desire HD General] wuub:
I thanked you back ;)

sorry for the question, coming from the Desire (Bravo) thread... and other there things don't work that way. ;)
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
Haha, cheers :D

Yeah, seems to be something they do in some sections on XDA but not others. Must depend on the mod. It's a good idea, saves all the stickies cluttering things up.
[Desire HD General] thay:
@ Drakknar can you please verify checksum of this file?

[**] 07th March 2011:

Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M_Test - HTC Ace Gingerbread S Generic 2.16.0.0

MD5 Checksum: bbd570b1e12702cec6907078aaf71720

seems to be 71ba0afe14b1caf5ba29da6f3e2ab755
[Desire HD General] JamesBarnes:
Thay,

The suppplied checksum in that instance is for the Zip file.

radio.img checksum...

Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M_Test:

71BA0AFE14B1CAF5BA29DA6F3E2AB755
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Updated, thanks for the tip :)
[Desire HD General] pockobg:
So i"m on Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M_Test - HTC Ace Gingerbread S Generic 2.16.0.0 from this morning and i already noticed a great improvement of the signal and not much of a battery drain!
[Desire HD General] broncogr:
I agree, I feel like its a keeper.

At least with Leedroid's Gingerbread it is.
[Desire HD General] samuel2706:
new radio?

Someone 4 minutes ago posted a brands new radio? this legit or is it just someone messing about you should see it on the dev forum posted 7:34pm (GMT) here is the link it's the same radio but different software version number? if this makes sense

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=993183
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
MD5sum of CSL-HK CHT 1.84.832.2 looks the same as O2 Radio :)
[Desire HD General] samuel2706:
Probably is but still just though i'd report ;) didn't think there would be a new radio
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
No, no lag for me, battery drain was severe for the first day. Even worse than the M2 radio! Now seems to have settled down a bit.

Lag could be down to ur ROM/CPU settings. I'm running CM7-RC2 @ 1.3ghz and its soo smooth.
[Desire HD General] onesolo:
New radio 12.35d.60.140fP_26.08.03.07_M, taken from the new leaked test gingerbread 2.3.3 rom

http://www.mediafire.com/?wpdtzvgg72yab0a

Taken from here, http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12159739&postcount=29
[Desire HD General] leith51:
just tested on t-mobile uk it gave network error over 3g on youtube
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
I'm on T-Mobile UK too so I'll test this later tonight and see if I get same problem.
[Desire HD General] Kyrillos:
guys,

can you please explain to me how to choose the most optimal radio?? Currently i am in Russia using Megafon, however I travel a lot and use other operators in other countries.

I'm not sure which radio to choose, cause some of the refer to certain operators (e.g. Orange etc.)... Is the latest version the best?

Thanks in advance
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
Start with recommended radio for your ROM and then if you don't like it try any of the others. Newer usually means better but it's not always the case. Also, one mans experience with a radio can vary from the next man due to a lot of different factors... so just download a few a try them over a couple of days ;)
[Desire HD General] Kyrillos:
thanks a lot!
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
OP updated with 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M Test Radio :)
[Desire HD General] Andy:
All the latest Radios are also mirrored in my sig
[Desire HD General] Commax007:
Anyone flashed this Radio.

How does it work on CM7 RC2?
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
There's a thread about in here somewhere mate ;)
[Desire HD General] leith51:
I'm running it now and where I normally get poor signal and only 2g I got hdspa and 3 bar so a good improvement on signal

My other phone is an iPhone it makes a great coaster but not to good as a hammer
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Thanks mate, I added your mirror in the OP :)
[Desire HD General] samuel2706:
I'm just gonna stay with the recommened one for ARHD instead of going to this new one until mike intergrates it i think
[Desire HD General] bwsuk:
sticky?

surely this thread should be a sticky?
[Desire HD General] Andy:
It is, it's in the Roll Up Sticky Thread. Makes for tidier forums.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
Not feeling the love from new radio I lost a whole 1% in 2.5 hours screen off lol

My other phone is an iPhone it makes a great coaster but not to good as a hammer
[Desire HD General] Dands:
I have an issue. Not sure where the bug lies however. I'm running Leedroid 2.2.2 with K-v2.2.7 R2.

I've never had an issue of note except this morning. I'm sitting in the train listening to music, screen off and all of a sudden the music starts skipping. I take the phone out of screen off and it's telling me "Voice dialing failure - "Try saying John Doe" or something.

I stop music player. Restart it and again start listening to music. Once again in screen off mode, the music starts skipping in reverse and jumping back and forth.

Now the only change I've made was last night I flashed the new HTC Ace Gingerbread S Generic 2.25.0.0 radio. Version 17th March 2011: 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test. I can't see how this would make the phone behave like it did.

Any thoughts? I'm pretty sure my handset isn't possessed by the devil. I mean it's not like it's running Apple iOS right. :-)
[Desire HD General] Andy:
Try flashing back to a different Radio and see if you can reproduce the issue.
[Desire HD General] semsem1969:
latest Radio

running the latest radio on Coredroid v3.2

signal,data connection,wifi and Gps work well

battery Drain faster than previous Radio 12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M

but i can not judge the battery without discharging the phone completely and charge back again.

my opinion for signal etc it is the same like the previous one GB.

i will let you know guys.

cheers.