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[General Topics] marstodd:
Hello! My first post, came here because of much discussion about my Motorola Cliq never being upgraded beyond 2.1.

There is a need for users with older phones to hope for using them for non-essential uses (wifi etc) beyond end of life.

Can developers please start a forum area for old low-performance uses, upgrades, help with rooting, etc.

Motorola users with Motoblur will especially need this. (to go to Stock) Is it possible to keep upgrading and enhancing SW on older HW beyond it's lifetime?

Any Guides for getting to OS level code to keep on developing it?

P.S. Isn't it amazing people still work on old Atari games from the 1980's ?

Thanks!

Todd.

Any help links appreciated
[General Topics] vbetts:
Isn't there a community for Cliq development?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdmcPL:
I want flash custom ROM on my Hero, but I want keep using HTC Sense, so I have to flash Eclair ROM. Which is fastest?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vijaysapkota:
What the hell are you talking about? eclair rom with sense?

have you ever seen that?

Please once good before asking, never ask such fully question....
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdmcPL:
Eclair = Android 2.1

Lastest official rom is based on 2.1 and it HAS Sense UI.
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walkinhotdog:
try RCMix or Kimera2.1, those are my favorite sense 2.1 roms, and put on either flykernal11c bfs or flykernalpre12 and your good to go
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hubix:
RCMix is the fastest Sense ROM really!
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdmcPL:
Thanks, I flashed RCMix and Flykernel and it's great.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] denyboy:
Every combination i try i get 6mA minimum in standby.

So this Question is for people who get 3mA or lower in standby

What ROM are you using ?

What Radio are you using ?

What Android port are you using (this is not so relevant) ?

What kernel are you using ?

What microSD card exactly are you using ?

I tried with autokill, without autokill (manualy kill all aps before going to standby), tried different ROMS, radios, kernels but its always minimum 6-7 mA. Tried alot of options...

My opinion is that SDcard is relevant. So im going to buy a new one and want to know what are you using. My current one is SanDisk 4GB class 2 FAT16 64kb cluster. Tried different cluster sizes. And with 4GB i cant create FAT32 64kb cluster only FAT32 32kb cluster so i use FAT16.

P.S. if i dont use live wallpaper i get 5mA minimum.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dan138zig:
there's also a possibility it's signal related. people who gets perfect signal/reception has good battery life. i don't know, just a theory.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CharismaRise:
I'm getting 3-5mA, rarely 6-10mA on:

+WinMO ROM: Energy Dec. 5

+Radio: 2.15.50

+Android: Nexus HD2 1.8 hastarin 8.5.3

+SD Card: Class 6 Transcend
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deadmansink:
Check my sig for info
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] thinhletien:
Actually i think,3mA only have in the 1st time u run the android. After u installed app or game, the current will increase, because some app will run in background mode,not depend on u closig them or not, they will auto start after u killed them.

And the android version affect current too. In my opinion, most of Htc android rom with senseUI will cost u more current.

My DesireHd rom cost me 6-7mA after installed apps n games needed(20 total). If change to airplane mode,it cost exactly 3mA

My Rom: DesireHD 4.4

Kernel: hastarin

Winmo rom: A66 core2 full android dual boot v2 (this rom made by vietnamese, very stable with all android version)

Radio: cant remember n lazy to check, u cant down lates radio, think it bettet

Memory card: sandisk 8g class2 <<< it suck,cause it s fake1 from china, in my country, buy real1 very hard n expensive, but it s ok with its price. I will buy real1 soon, maybe class6, hope the speed will increase

1 Question: is there any1 who using 16 or 32g class 6, is it ok with speed? And how much for them? The real, not fake from china plz :D
[Droid 2 Global General] hamabucon:
My phone has bricked over 1 months and can not unbrick . I hope there are a hope for my phone :(
[Droid 2 Global General] botnryan:
I have a bricked one i got replaced with insurance that im holding off on sending back (using my full 10 days) hoping the sbf comes out in that time period so i can rest assured they wont know i rooted/rom'd it. I dont think anyone knows just yet when the sbf will be released :\
[Droid 2 Global General] jerseyh22accord:
If the phone is bricked then it wont go past the boot logo so a tech wouldn't be able to tell its rooted or rom'ed, they would flash the sbf and the phone would be wiped clean and stock again. I wouldn't worry about sending the phone back.
[Droid 2 Global General] botnryan:
yeah we discussed that in the fission rom thread. it made me feel a little better but you can never be too sure :) lol
[Droid 2 Global General] Steffylicious:
I too have a bricked D2G. I'd really like to see an sbf released soon, because I had to get mine off of eBay, since I live in Australia. I don't really feel like sending it back to the seller, waiting for it to be replaced, and then having to wait for it to get sent back since that would take about a month and over $50 in postage costs.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] du1sbo:
Hi everyone out there Nexus S Owners, any body have any idea on how to use the DLNA feature on this phone? does it have one or not? if there is, how? any app that would do it? Thanks :)
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] nobnut:
Thank you. I'll give it a bash now.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Chris X.:
Description?
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] nobnut:
Shortcut to screen off.

The answer's in the title :)

It works just fine but will not uninstall
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] pr0x2:
+1 same here.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] jfcc58:
Thanks a lot, but this is alraedy available in the market, in lots of variations, paid and free versions (f.i. Screen off and lock).
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Chris X.:
"Last edited by itsme_4ucz; Today at 04:53 PM."

:p
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] itsme_4ucz:
To un-install, go Settings, Locations & Security, Select Device Administrators and disable the ScreenOff App...
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] nobnut:
I highly recommend using this app in conjunction with barcontrol.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] itsme_4ucz:
True, Also I have requested jerryfan2000 to include this in button savior (This was the reason i designed this app)
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] jcsy:
i would use this in conjunction with Button Saviour
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] dungphp:
OFF !

- Turn OFF the phone : DOWNLOAD.

- Hot reboot the phone: DOWNLOAD (busybox supported)

:D
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] lucian777:
Its on the Market since August screen off and shutdown shortcut, im using it for over 2 months now.

http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/droidmilestone-phone-sleep_jtyn.html
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] mikelt89:
Is it so hard to press a key?
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] tgtoys:
No. the point is to avoid using the hardware keys as much as possible as there is growing concern that the buttons can (and probably will) stop working from over use.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] nir36:
definately a very cool application... i'm wondering tho, why would we need to worry about the buttons? are they different than any other device which we used to press the buttons on?
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Beefheart:
Unless I'm missing something you still have to press the power button to turn the screen back on. So it's sort of half a button saviour. ;)

Agreed. I don't get this button thing. Why stop using the buttons on the off chance they stop working? Why save the buttons if you're not going to use them anyway? Strange. I could understand using this if the buttons have already stopped working.

It's like buying a car but never driving it in case the tyres wear down.
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] JosephAGT:
thanks for that explanation I was thinking the same

i have noticed my 'home' button has started to click loud :(
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] somebully:
I've been using my phone over a year now and Android since the summer, buttons work fine.. Could be possible that some users are more unlucky with their hardware. However, it will only take a couple of days of use for this to be just as seamless as pushing the button, in fact easier!

Pagnell: The fact that you use the button 50% less is the key reason for using this widget, would be silly with a 100% replacement. And as I said, after a day or two I'm sure it's more convenient
[HD2 Android Themes and Apps] Beefheart:
I simply don't get the logic behind trying to save buttons you're not using by utilizing applications like this. Buttons are for using, not saving, otherwise you may as well not have them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kuplet:
I just lost my galaxy s and since im planning to get a qwerty phone that runs on android. Is desire z a good choice? Im avoiding touch screen phones since I type faster with qwerty keypads.

thanks
[G2 and Desire Z General] aznsnake666:
things of this matter really is a personal taste. I started my first qwerty phone with a sidekick 2 and than a lx and than a G1 to a G2 all the keyboards i had to get use to and i enjoyed all of them. Even though the G2 has a really nice sturdy qewrty keyboard you should just go to the store if you can and hold it and see if you like it. and i also never used touch screen keyboards but i gotta say giving swype a chance i love it. Its almost as fast as the qewrty if not faster when i get use to it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] pierrekid:
Yea the g2 is an awesome choice. Probably one of the best keyboards if not the best in the world right now. Its on par with the touchpro2 keyboard, which if you don't know is considered to be one of the best of all time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr123:
The general consensus is that the DREAM had a better keyboard than the VISION, but in terms of *current* android phones, VISION is definitely TOP. If you want a high powered android phone with great flexibility and a keyboard, you really have no choice... its VISION or nothing.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kuplet:
Thanks for the replies guys. Dont think Vision is available here in the Philippines, have to check.

Is the hinge issue really a problem with the Desire Z? Keep on seeing peeps talking about it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] prinzhernan:
It's available in the Philippines. I just bought mine two weeks ago from my supplier for 27k. The hinge is not a problem. People are just way too fussy.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sciphonic:
The keyboard and hinge actually sold me on this phone. The Z hinge is better than a slider in that it actually stays closed unless you want it to open. My Motorola Droid has a very tight slider but still has a tendency to slide open a few millimeters when I grip it and then snag on my pocket.
[G2 and Desire Z General] elgy:
Yeah, I am also looking for a slide-out qwerty-keyboard phone, but it has to be one that is better than G2 and mytouch 3g slide...

any suggestions?
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
The current best qwerty android phone right now is the Desire Z. Unless you have Sprint, then it would probably be a tossup between the epic 4g and the Evo Shift 4G (different pros and cons).
[G2 and Desire Z General] Talesin_BatBat:
The only irritation I have is the four-row keyboard... I'd have gone with 'world class' if it had a full five-row instead of mashing all the extra characters down onto the keyboard along with the numbers; frustrating not to have a hard key for any of the following, when SSH'ing into a machine to remote admin:

<>|^[]{}

Especially so with the fairly useless TMo quick-keys on the G2 (why not just map menu+ to apps you use a lot?), and the much-HATED, entirely bloody brainless www./.com button where the tab key should be.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
those keys, with proper apps, can be remapped. and if you're looking for a 5 row keyboard, you're pretty much SOL since I can't even think off the top of my head of any android phone that features that kind of keyboard.

I maintain my stance in this though: If you want a hardware keyboard, the Desire Z is your best bet. I don't know of any other keyboard that is equal in hardware and software.
[G2 and Desire Z General] thepaddedroom:
I wish the G2 had kept the G1's keyboard. I loved that keyboard more than any other I've ever used.

So it goes.

The G2's CDMA cousin, the HTC Merge, hasn't been officially released stateside, but I think it looks quite nice keyboard-wise.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
I'm going to tell you right now, don't hold your breath for the Merge. As I have said it on htcmerge.com, the merge is like a $2 hooker. It's been everywhere but sticks nowhere and leaves with a bad taste.

it's a damn good phone though, I had a chance to handle the Merge in person and I loved it.. except i'm on AT&T and can't unlock the damn thing.
[G2 and Desire Z General] elgy:
So HTC Merge wouldn't work for me as I live in Europe, huh? I won't be able to use the phone with my sim-card, right? The same goes for Evo Shift 4g too, right?

hmm... htc desire z and g2... don't they both got the annoying loose hinge, or?

Nah, to be honest, I was more than happy with T-mobile's mytouch 3g slide. The only and major flaws on that was the non-HD camera and that annoying "Generic Failure"-error when sending/receiving a MMS... other than that, it was a GREAT phone! Loved the keys layout too!

So yeah, if there'd be a way to fix those things on the mytouch 3g slide, then i'd definitely get that phone again as this G2 of mine is just...well...crap and HEAVY..
[G2 and Desire Z General] lainvalenajr:
Lol I love the keyboard aha... compared to my motorola cliq. G2 and DisireZs keyboard is pretty good
[G2 and Desire Z General] xandermpls:
G2 is the best. Phone design is so good. Both me and my girlfriend rock this.

We also have a third line for our business. It is a mytouch4G. While is honestly the iPhone killer. Both and my girlfriend prefer the g2. Its just awesome.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
essentially yes. Don't expect the merge or evo shift 4g to work on any carrier except for their own respective companies. sorry.

as I mentioned in other posts, the hinge can be "modded" with a new stronger spring to get it a real snap.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ianmcquinn:
I thought one of the key selling points of the Merge was that it was going to be one of Verizon's "global" edition phones (so CDMA for Verizon networks with a SIM slot for quad-band GSM and 2100 UMTS). Not sure if that's changed since the specs were originally leaked though...
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
it's global, but not global 3G...

the 2100 UMTS is not used in every country. so yes, it's a global phone, but on edge. on 3G, it would only work in countries that use the 2100 band exclusively so it's heavily carrier and country dependent. THAT and they would want you to be using the carrier's international plan over the local plan so they can still charge you up the ass while you're travelling.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ianmcquinn:
Well yes, but 2100 UMTS is used almost everywhere except for the Americas (some exceptions apply, but most of Europe and Asia support it). This is the same reason the G2 is attractive for overseas use, too. Without the Merge actually being out yet, it's hard to say, but I think the idea would be people would get it unlocked so they could turn off the CDMA radio when overseas and use a local SIM for everything. Just speculation for now though...
[G2 and Desire Z General] elgy:
I see. So no Evo Shift and Merge for me then since they can only be used by their respective company...

So HTC Desire Z _is_ my best option if I want 5mpx cam, HD-cam and android, huh?

No new phones that are out that can match G2 and/or DZ that can be used in Europe?

Whaaat? myTouch 4g?! Sounds interesting, but that doesn't got a slide-out qwerty, huh?
[G2 and Desire Z General] bongd:
This is not only the best Android phone with a keyboard but I believe it's the best Android phone bar none. The only reason why I'll be upgrading is because I'm a neurotic early adopter and need new goodies as soon as they come out. :p

I really like the Xperia Arc but I'm scared of SE after my X10 experience. The Atrix has a poor camera and is too locked down, so all it's disappointments may not be wiped out for some time.. but the LG Optimus 2X looks like a really nice phone.

If I could just switch the innards of my Desire Z I totally would.. hopefully HTC comes out with some dual core phones with keyboards like the Vision/G2/Desire Z. I'll buy it in a heartbeat! :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z General] Aneelll:
Go for it..

I have been using this phone (G2 a.k.a Desire Z) for under 1month and i am loving this. It gives you the flexibility to do what ever you want to do and the phone feels solid. Its 3.7" screen which is pretty good(some people don't prefer 4.3" screens that fills up their whole pocket and makes people to hold it like a jewelery piece.) So short advice, go for it, and you will not regret it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] creativedevil:
I am no expert but I will say one thing for sure... DZ or G2, however you call it, is really a great phone. Tell you all why... I went from N1 --> Desire --> N1 --> Desire Z --> N1/iPhone 4 --> Desire Z... and I have been using it ever since, can't really think of letting this phone go again...

This whole change of phones happened in 5 months... and now I am happy that I have got this powerful toy, which has got 5MP cam, slide out KB, heft and solid build...

I love this phone...
[G2 and Desire Z General] riahc3:
Is isnt any better. Most (reviewers and users) have called the Desire Z currently the best QWERTY Android phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] corster:
I came from a Blackberry Bold 9000, and the hardware keyboard was the biggest selling point of this phone for me. I used to think there was nothing like a berry keyboard. Now I could never go back.
[G Tablet General] usafle:
My first thread that I can call my own. :D

Question for you all. Is there an easier way to transfer files over the the GTAB then having to pop out the SD Card and put it into an adapter and then into the computer and then out of the computer, out of the adapter and back in the GTAB?

Because every time I mount the USB, it only mounts the "internal" SD Card. Is there some sort of way to get it to mount both the internal and external SD Card?

I hate messing with the external SD Card. All the "popping in and out" makes me nervous.

I even tried mounting the internal SD Card and then copying the movies/music/etc.. over to the external SD Card via a file manager... but that is DAMNNNNN slow.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I haven't found a way (yet). Given that neither the zPad or TnT stock builds work, I'm thinking it's not that easy to do. Drives me nuts as well because I really don't want to keep taking the card out over and over and potentially damage it, over time.
[G Tablet General] usafle:
That's exactly what I am worried about. LOL

I can just picture not paying 100% attention and snapping the card in half or, breaking the "locking" mechanism that holds the card in place.
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
If you have ADB, can you do adb pull or push?

Jim
[G Tablet General] P0RT3R:
My workaround has been to use the LAN tab in ES File Explorer to copy data wirelessly to sdcard2. Probably not the speediest method but it keeps the card in place.
[G Tablet General] terrypchan:
The techie/hacker solution to easy file transfer is to use the Rsync for Android app in the market store. Once you have it setup, (not the easiest thing to do) it works great for moving files automated from your gtab back to an rsync server (my linux box to the rescue). I even have a secondary profile to get it to reverse rsync a specified directory FROM my linux box to my gtab. Presto -- easy file transfer via wifi!!!
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
Also, another idea might be to use Dropbox?

Jim
[G Tablet General] treenuts:
I do the same thing. It's mighty slow, but it works.
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
roebeet - an idea that almost worked - maybe you know why?

Hi,

You all got me curious, so I just tried the following:

- Created a dir under /mnt/sdcard, /mnt/sdcard/mymnt

- Get temp root (z4root)

- Start terminal

- su

- mount -t vfat /dev/block/vold/179:17 /mnt/sdcard/mymnt

At this point, I can access the sdcard2 by using /mnt/sdcard/mymnt or simply /sdcard/mymnt.

So, I disabled USB debugging, and I get the popup asking if I want to activate USB transfer (I'm on 3452, on earlier TNT firmware, it use to say enable USB storage).

I click the button to Activate, and then another window pops up, and I click Activate.

Then, the popup just stays there, with the spinning thing. It never enables USB transfer, and, on my PC, I see the removable drive, but when I click on it, it says it's not ready.

I've also tried umounting /mnt/sdcard2, thinking that it might be confused because of the two mounts to /dev/block/vold/179:17, but it still does the same thing.

So:

- It looks like I can mount the /dev/block/vold/179:17 (the external microSD card) under /mnt/sdcard, and

- When I do that mount, I can see the contents of the external microSD card in terminal under /mnt/sdcard/mymnt and under /sdcard/mymnt, but

- For some reason, turning off USB debugging/activatiing USB transfer fails.

Maybe someone can figure out why activating the USB transfer fails. If we can figure that out, then that would allow seeing the external microSD card via the PC USB interface.

Jim
[G Tablet General] TeutonicWolf:
I think it would need to mount both volumes -- the internal SDcard and the external SDCARD2 -- separately...

Using a mount (reparse) works internally since they are on the same device -- but if you try to mount SDCARD externally it doesn't understand the reference to SDCARD2

My phone actually mounts to the computer as two drives -- one for internal (SDCARD) and the other for external (SDCARD2)

I'd assume there is a way to have something similar work on our gTablets...

I'll have to slap a spare microSD card into the tablet to try though...wondering if teh INF needs to be tweaked as well (??)
[G Tablet General] HorsexD:
From what Ive seen or experienced, Cyanogen was the only rom that Had the Sd card and Sd card2 Thing fixed right (with exception of having to plug in the Power cord before mounting). Evrey other Rom seems to have problems. But Cyanogen has way too many other problems so I use Vegan since to me it seems the most stable :s
[G Tablet General] TeutonicWolf:
Yeah -- my phone is running a fork from Cyanogenmod 6...so the code is shared
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
That's the problem... When the Gtab is plugged into the PC USB (while USB debug is disabled), only one new "drive" appears, corresponding to /sdcard on the Gtab. There is no 2nd drive appearing on the PC corresponding to /sdcard2 on the Gtab.

I've been looking at my Windows configuration, with the Gtab plugged in, and the one drive that appears shows up under "Portable Devices" branch in Device Manager. The properties show that it corresponds to "wpdfs.inf", and looking through that, it looks like a generic USB Mass Storage configuration, i.e., a USB drive.

I still think that something would need to be fixed on the Gtab end for the two drives to appear on the Windows end.

Jim
[G Tablet General] darkstknight1523:
app fix

I have found a workaround for the issue with the installation of a single app:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12299831&postcount=2
[G Tablet General] poymeister:
Depending on what you want to do, an FTP solution is also possible as discussed in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=869844

By using swiFTP, I am able to open a connection through a Win7 windows explorer, and I can drag-and-drop files to SDCARD2 (over a wireless connection). I put a 1Gig movie on the card and it took about 12 minutes.