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[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Dexter_nlb:
may i ask where the last one got you?

- no open bootloader.

- you dont have 2.2 yet

- you dont kernel source for 2.2 yet

- you do not even have any official statement from motorola releasing 2.3.

So expection is wanna-be's only...

in one year this will look like a HTC Tattoo, limited number of users, and hardly no one cares about 2.3 anymore because 3.5 is on its way...

and oct. 2011 Motorola might send out notice about 2.3 so visions? very small for this phone now..

technology evolves too quickly now.. petition is really not getting you anywhere on a cloased phone like moto, but of course gives a clear picture of how few users are using milestone now.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Wing_Zero85:
I'm also sure that petition are useless, but they takes only 2 minutes of my time to be created, and just one second to be signed. So I can't see the reason not to try.

Every one it is free to sign it or not. I can't see the problem.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] arathorn2nd:
An alternative to petition

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to share with you an alternative to the petitions that could help this movement gather more momentum. This is not my idea, this actually happened a few months ago and actually worked!

Anyway, the idea here is that twitter has a much greater visibility for the company and general public. For Motorola, the issue would be the effect in their future customers and the loyalty of their current customers. For the current owners, it would put the issues on the spotlight, and might have a snowball effect of support for the cause.

We must start a wave like that one, using a Manifesto to release their grips on the Milestone. They aren't interested in properly supporting the device anyway, as forcing us to buy a newer one is better for the business. Something along the lines of Either Free the Milestone or support with Gingerbread! <http.bitly.manifesto> @Motorola #mototyrant

PS. Included in message is a sample link to manifesto, but I cannot add links here yet.

Anyway, what you guys think?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] SudevG:
I Signed Them Both...

Twitter and Other Social Network are good weapons...(not for mass destruction but for mass influence)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] lazywahwah:
sounds interesting!

i'm in, and i can help to spread this activity among Milestone users in Thailand.

estimated 50-60 ppl mightl join, or maybe 100+ if lucky enough :D

to make this more effective, maybe we should settle a certain date/time for tweeting. the more tweets it has at the same time, the more likely that the tag will hits the trending topics!

however, i see this is not the problem only for Milestone users, i think the others who stuck in the same seat; droidX droid2 droid2 global users, might also be interested. why shouldn't we invite them in? :D
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] SophT:
I would say you'd have better luck with a single targeted campaign. Don't say "either gingerbread or an unlocked bootloader". Pick one and work that.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] hahaboy:
Petition seems useless, since last time froyo also facing same problems
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] AliceXES:
If we get an unocked bootloader, we won't care about Motorola releasing 2.3 anymore.

Anyway, the best solution would be to open an account for donations. Hirining ninjas to get the RSA key from Motorola seems to be the only solution that could work.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mav3rick96:
unlocking Bootloader

Bootloader for Milestone should be open especially when every other competitor and it's cousin has a open bootloader. Why they choose to lock the bootloader is beyond my comprehension.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Kangal:
This thread is pointless (imo).

If this was for the Milestone2, then it would've been cool.

It's got slightly better hardware, which desparately warrants for better software (built by us, of course).
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Dexter_nlb:
this time i fully agree..

there is "no such open bootloader" its all in the hardware, so only trick is to open the phone and change the pins on your chips to make it "open", and break a fuse to get it opened.. so good luck to ya all here!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Wing_Zero85:
maybe this petition is useless, but it doesn't cost anything.

It takes more time to write "this thread is pointless" than sign the petition.

If you both think that this is a pointless thread, someone may not think the same.

No one force you to reply to this thread, if you think that is pointless. And I can't see the reason to reply to a pointless thread.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] scbond:
They gave us their word that we'd be getting 2.2 by the end of the year in Europe but I doubt it'll happen in the next fews days. So telling a company that doesn't like to listen won't help. They aren't going to unlock the bootloader or provide future updates.

What we really need is for all Android updates across all hardware to be supplied and released by Google. That way, everybody gets the same software at the same time and without the crap software loaded on by manufacturers. The chance of this or something along these lines happening is high, but the chance of a bootloader unlocked by Motorola is completely zero.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] SophT:
Got bad news for you:

https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades

They bumped it back to Q1 2011 and made an announcement in the support forums like it was a good thing.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] switchblade920:
I've signed the petition, but I think if we were to focus on only one of these two goals, I'd vote for getting a completely unlocked bootloader. Once we have an unlocked bootloader, great roms like CyanogenMod are gonna come around and give us some Gingerbread, without waiting around for Motorola...

Anyway. I'm honestly not sure on this, but I have a feeling there is a minimum memory requirement on Gingerbread-capable phones. I've noticed that Gingerbread has only been managed to be shoehorned onto phones with 512MB of RAM or more. Our 256MB RAM might pose an issue...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] scbond:
Must've said it as a good thing as Motorola are one of the few select companies out there in the world who works backwards. No doubt we'll get half the finished thing too...the sad thing is when we get it most will roll over and say how great it is.

My first Motorola phone is probably my last. I've always hated Motorola with a passion but took to the Droid/Milestone as it fit exactly what I wanted.

On another note, Gingerbread was originally limited to 1GHz processors and I'm pretty sure it was originally planned just for the tablets. Now though, the version number of Gingerbread has since changed as we all know from 3.0 to 2.3 for phones...dunno if it's still restricted though.

When Android was in it's early days we all had a vision of software updates for all forever and none of the crap where we all end up with different versions...but then manufacturers and operators got involved and now we have varying version of Android with different visual interfaces, loads of software nobody wants and different lead times for just a couple of updates each.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] kkrraazzyy:
petition signed
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] spiderx_mm:
Pointless.

You've asked for update to 2.2 and they've already turned it down. Now you're asking 2.3 .... hmm ... kids.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Wing_Zero85:
reply to a thread you think it is pointless? mmm...kid.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Beackman:
Petitions signed thx man, someone need to do this!.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Yeah. Just think about it this way. Aren't iPhone 2G customers damn lucky to at least get iOS 3 on their phones? Sigh. Wish Moto could be the same way.

I really hate Moto simply because they rode on this wave of Droid success. Mainly their success came because the Droid was the first REAL iPhone challenger in the US. And even now they're just sucking on Verizon's left tit (or vice versa) so that they have phones all over the US. But maybe it's best for a craptastic company like this that nearly died off a few years ago. Stick to the dumb consumers in the country that cares least about phones and unlocked devices.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] alijs:
Done,

though we didnt get the official 2.2 yet
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Ph0z3:
why isnt this thread dead or moved yet?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] lvcio:
wHY you say that?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] i2gh0st:
My update message changed from cannot connect to server to phone is up to date, is that a good thing?

:-))
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] jb0072009:
You have got to be joking! They have not even released 2.2 and you want 2.3? My guess is that Moto will eventually role out 1 more update to 2.2 and then maybe unlock the bootloader once all phones are out of warranty. Remember that probably 50% of the people who bought these phones dont even know that they are updatable. We are a small minority. Moto has always gone for the general consumer market, not the modders.Maybe thats why here in Asia Moto is very unpopular and hardly even sold. I like my phone and once it goes to 2.2 will be happy because then I will have apps2sd so I have memory to install programs. If they do not then I will mod the phone. In any case this is the last phone I will buy from Moto because most were bought off contract at like $500 and certaily Moto should have given better service. Shows you that money talks (Verizon) and bull (the small number of milestones compared to droids sold) walks.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] TheSSJ:
You've got to be kidding - they won't open it, rest assured.

For the rest, I agree completely.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] enzolight:
I am done!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] imorpho:
Supportzz Done :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] risahri:
I´m done! :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] mardurhack:
Just a hint guys. Sell your Milestone. It will never be upgraded to Gingerbread nor unlocked. I exchanged it with an HTC HD2 and I'm already running CyanogenMod 7 (2.3) flawlessy. To not mention Ubuntu and Meego which will be ported soon too (Ubuntu is already in and almost perfectly working).
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] xxx2000xxx:
Free the bootloader!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] lvcio:
Done!:cool:

None more phones from Motorola until Release Boot loader, for milestone and for EVERY phone of them:mad: since Motorola uses the milestone boot loader on every new phone since Milestone launch date
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] giapan84:
I'm hopefully my sign change something inside motorola marketing departement :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] msaraiva:
Well, sometimes it really pays off to ***** and complain:

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=495971028278
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] AliceXES:
OMG OMG OMG... Can't believe it!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] msaraiva:
I wouldn't hold my breath...but it was a really bold statement, and i hope they follow through.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Beackman:
I dont think so, i think the motorola will never free the bootloader.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] shreyas99:
Yeah, Rarely have Motorola shown interst in what dev's want...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] indiacam:
Done! Signed for both petitions.

Someone please tell me, do these online petition really work or help? I have doubts. Do anyone know if any previous online petition did work for any other objective?

I also hope someone is not buiding the email-cd for commercial use. :-(
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] virus_spreade121:
I am on it too . Done . :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Abazel:
I'm in too! Free the bootloader!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Slig06:
Yes, free the bootloader please !
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] vishalmullur:
How will they free the bootloader?

Will it be an ota? Or will they provide any link. I don't understand when devs can do custom roms why can't they free the bootloader. Please anybody explain
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] xenomorph150:
signed, my pleasure ^^
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] njmata:
I signed. Hope Motorola can free the bootloader
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] DrNO[PL]:
signed & signed :)
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] misiekthcteam:
Done!........
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
persoanlly i wudnt care if motorola rolls out official GB .. we got some amazing custom roms running GB here y wud u need stock .. moto's stock froyo also is **** compared to froyomod2.7/2.8 ..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] COMPACTER:
I want the 2.3 for our milestone please sign me up!!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] kv1dr:
Petition about bootloader signed.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] A-HWH:
Here is a slightly good piece of news for your:

http://ausdroid.net/2011/06/14/an-update-on-motorolas-locked-boot-loader-situation/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ausdroid+%28Ausdroid%29

However it seems to say only phones that will get updates and carrier approval in Q3/Q4 will have unlocked bootloader, so the chances of unlocked bootloader on Milestone is still pretty slim.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] kv1dr:
Thanks for the link. Hope dies last.

I don't understand Motorola, why they didn't sell us Milestone with unlocked bootloader, when other provider like HTC, Samsung and so on, are selling a thousand of products, all with unlocked bootloader.

Dear Motorola, I hate you so much for selling us your products with locked bootloader and also for not giving us any updates for our phones.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] victor.prs:
I don't think that Motorola is releasing GB for Milestone neither unlock bootloaders UNLESS we spread for everyone to not buy a new Motorola smartphone
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] aPexalpha:
Done. I hope motorola listens to this. :(
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] rrohanjs:
what will happen if bootloader is unlocked .. sorry technically m low
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] skadude66:
A big ability would be to change and flash new kernels. Just like Peter Alfonso's custom kernels for Droid, people can customize the kernel for maximum battery life, etc. It also allows for true custom ROMs are we could load whatever kernel we wanted.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nokn956120:
I have tried a lot of Android builds on my HD2 and from what I have seen, everything what should work on a normal Android device works on an Android build with the exception of putting the phone into Recovery Mode.

There are themes and fixes currently available for devices such as the Desire HD which require the device to be in Recovery Mode. Is it possible to have a zip file and put an Android build into Recovery Mode to install the zip on the HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
Nope, no recovery mode. I suppose we'll have it when nand arrives.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] marty22877:
can anyone get this to work on the slide? i'm running cyanogen 6.1.1
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] yajinni:
I kind of did. you have to zoom in alot to the street level for it to show it seems...
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] yajinni:
also only works on certain cities. cant find the list but they say 100+ i didnt it with new york city.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] fermunky:
English only please, thanks.

Seriously, what were you trying to say? It DID work in NYC, it DIDNT work in nyc, YOU worked IN NYC...
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] guitarist5122:
Your post held no value other than to nitpick someone's english.

@ OP, idk what you mean. I was able to get it to show 3d by tapping the location button a couple times and i live in near the country side of dover, de
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] fermunky:
Please take your backseat moderating somewhere else. I was using what we call "sarcasm". And clearly, the other part of my post did hold value: asking yajinni to clarify what he/she was saying. Thanks

To my point, I was asking yajinni to clarify for others who have tried this in NYC, I couldn't care less about NYC. But if the poster doesn't clarify what they meant, others testing in the area will not know what to appropriately respond to him/her with. Also, reading yajinni's previous post, it is clear he/she speaks English perfectly fine. So I felt like joking with their obvious typo, and then asking them "seriously" to clarify.

So, would you like a worth while post from me? Fine. I am in Tampa, and can confirm that the 3d models work in Tampa. The 3d models only show up in map mode. In satellite layer on, only tilt, no models. Again, this is in TAMPA, I have not had a chance to search every city supporting 3d models.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] bunu:
Good for you. I'm glad this accomplished something of great value. Nitpicking on another user you don't know about will leave a HUGE impact. I'm sure they will take it into their heart. They will also never forgot you and will thank you forever.

Now back on topic...

I can never make it tilt. I tried everything and it just won't work.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] acejoker25000:
the way to make it work is to wait til gps finds you then hit the target button beside the layers button. hit it twice and it should automatically tilt a little bit and follow the way your facing. also we dont have the ability use the multi touch tilt and turn sadly. our device doesnt support it according to google but brut is making some headway in the g1 android development section so keep your eyes out there! we might end up having all of the features that google says we cant.

as for actual 3d tilt its only in certain areas as stated above. a way to verify its actually working scroll over to san diegp california after you hit the target twice and you should see buildings in 3d and if you do there and not your city then that means your city isnt supported yet
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] yajinni:
Hm sorry for the bad typing. was on my phone and it was late. But i meant is i DID IT with new york city.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] bunu:
That is weird. I'm sure we got the same multi-touch sensors as the N1, Evo, Incredible, Original Droid, and any other older htc/moto phone
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] guitarist5122:
we do have multi touch since we can pinch to zoom, so i'm confused too
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] fermunky:
Some of you clearly are still not getting the sarcasm, just relax is all I have left to say.

Ace: Could you like to the source of this info? Specifically where our device isn't supported yet/ever?

Thanks
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] heybobitsme:
I wonder if the reason Google say it's unsupported is because the Slide is still "officially" Android 2.1?
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] fermunky:
That would make more sense than outright saying the MyTouch3G Slide is not supported.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] heybobitsme:
Ya, I just can't see it being hardware.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] Taylortron3030:
Lol, T-Mo., where is that damn update anyway?! They should just license CyanogenMod.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] mdayjr:
help section of gmaps is where you will find a list of all cities with 3d buildings. Menu>more>help
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] acejoker25000:
to enable the multitouch tilt and what not then head HERE you have to be in clockwork recovery and have system mounted but it does work i have tested this! kinda glitchy so smoothness isnt the best but it works lol

also on a side not with this edit it seems to figure out which direction im facing better then it used to so thats a plus! im not sure how many people were having that problem...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psufan5:
Does it exist on the captivate? I cant find a way to run my phone in edge only to save battery....

Thanks.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avgjoegeek:
You'd have to run certain custom ROM's that have it enabled. Unfortunately they change so often I cannot remember which one offered it.

I would check Auxura ROM in the dev forum here - I "think" they had that feature enabled.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoeDV:
You could try the following:

Put your phone in service mode by dialing *#*#197328640#*#*

Then type 1 for Debug

Then 8 for Phone Control

Then 4 for UE State Control

and then 3 to change to GSM

then Menu-> exit.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwertyaas:
Yep, that's what I do during the week as the 3G signal by my office isn't so great. To go back to 3G, it's option 2 instead of 3 (WCDMA).
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avgjoegeek:
Think there's a way to create Launcher Pro buttons to have it switch using shortcuts instead of having to dial all that?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gflare:
just to add some additional info.

Running Axura 2.4, you have the following options in the usual settings menu => Wireless and Network => Mobile Network Settings

GSM/CDMA

GSM Only

CDMA Only
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwertyaas:
I just added the number as a contact. Whenever I want to access it, it pops right up after dialing #.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] miniterror:
hello fellow users

i have a rooted gt-i9000 from my brother and its rooted and has clockwork mod on it

i flashed the recovery on it and it has a voodoo lagfix(cant remeber wich one i put on it)

every time i say in clockworkmod reboot in to recovery it will do but it wants to instal clockworkmod recovery again wich never finish

if i pull out the batt and hold volume down with power it goes normally in boot menu

when i choose apply update.zip from sd card it always aborts

can any one help on getting denavill rom on it or let me flash anything else to it?

thansk in advance

ps on my desire hd its way more easy to flash something on it:p

pps: when i go to recovery it says 2e

manny manny thanks to who helped me:D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] miniterror:
no one who knows?

have been multiple post after i posted my question:(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xExisioNx:
They probably wont help you, because you obviously are very active in this forum with over 2k posts, but cant follow simple guidelines, as posting questions in the right section...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] miniterror:
lol that helped

the over 2000 posts come from my windows mobile thread i whas cook for blackstone before i went to desire hd

still am stuck with the galaxy though

now rom manager cant even get internet connection

and it aint that hard to help

have been trying with the stupid phone almost whole day without succes

and yes i have been readin alot but nothing seems to work what i try
[Galaxy S I9000 General] miniterror:
come on guys help me

if you only knew how many questions i have answerd in my wm thread of my rom wich where mentioned like a 1000 times:s

i believe we are a community

togheter is pwoer but with no help i have no power at all
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dupel:
There is no such rom for sgs. And how to install other roms - well, open any rom thread, almost all of them have excellent how to section (and its not hard - download and apply in cwm). Id recommend Docs ROM.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] miniterror:
well there is the problem as i wrote above

clockworkmod could downlaod recovery but couldnt flash it

every time i wanted to update the rom with a update.zip it would go to try and instal the clockwork recovery wich hangs:S

left it for over ten minutes without soemthing happening

ps im trying this rom: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=869408
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mopral:
Just a few question...

-Which rom is on this SGS now?

-When you boot in recovery with the 3 button combo, does it boot in 2e or in clockwork recovery?