yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Android Development] icematrix:
No you can't, must wait

Next time don't ask, just read ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] raydekok:
ok thanks, but i read everything and onest i can't get out of the topic if i can rooot or not.
[Desire HD Android Development] djattiman:
Ace PUT SHIP S-OFF RL cant boot into recovery mode

Hi, I had the 1.32.405.3 installed. I had it rooted.

Then I flashed the RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3 using the RUU.

Now the bootloader shows:

Ace PUT SHIP S-OFF RL

HBOOT-0.85.0018

MICROP-0438

RADIO-26.04.02.17_M2

eMMC-BOOT

Dec 7 2010,00:29:52

a. I cannot boot into the recovery mode

b. Rom Manager says my rom is not working for OTA updates

My questions:

1. What must I do to be able to boot into the recovery mode

2. What must I do to be able to get an OTA update , I am thinking of the next Gingerbread

3. If I decide not to choose for the next OTA update , but to have my device rooted and having Custom Recovery Mode, what to do?
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
You cannot gain root from where you are as 1.72 is still unrootable. Your going to have to downgrade to 1.32 and use the normal methods again.

Your lucky you have radio S-OFF otherwise you would have been stuck where you are.
[Desire HD Android Development] djattiman:
Thanks for replying afrcom15.

I know, I can go back to 1.32 and get root again. But 1.72 is smoother and has better camera results. So yeah, that choice is mine.

Also with a complete downgrade to 1.32 I can get the next OTA.

But then still the question, how can I make the recovery option work again?
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
Go through the normal rooting process on 1.32 and get CWR with rom manager.

There are custom roms based on the 1.72 base, I would recommend LeeDroid 1.3a.

Apart from the unbreakable new hboot you've got the optimized 1.72 base with this option, also don't worry about OTA's as it won't be long after 2.3 is released by HTC that there will be custom roms based on it.
[Desire HD Android Development] djattiman:
Okay, thanks again.

Going back to 1.32, how? Just running the RUU? Then Visionary ? Then CWR ?
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
I found the easiest way was to extract the rom zip from the RUU as per these instructions:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=841890

Then run VISIONary and CWR. It will be preferable but not essential to also get ENG S-OFF aswell.
[Desire HD Android Development] Axiol:
Sorry sorry, I didn't read the 32 pages but I've a question, my DHD is on 1.72 (official), can I flash this one ?

And after, can I downgrade to 1.32 ? How ?
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
What info is on the bootloader screen of your phone?

If you bought it with 1.72 already installed then I'm afraid your stuck.
[Desire HD Android Development] Axiol:
Nop, flash it by error ... I've got HBOOT-0 85.0018 (argh, just saw S-ON, so I'm really stuck ... )
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
That's the updated hboot so it all depends on what's written on the very top of your bootloader screen, is it S-ON or S-OFF?

If it says S-ON then your stuck.
[Desire HD Android Development] Axiol:
Yep, S-ON, but, can't I S-OFF after flashing this one ? As it's root ?
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
nope, you can't downgrade from where you are and you would need to downgrade to gain root.
[Desire HD Android Development] Axiol:
I'm still wondering if it won't work with this method :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=841890

Taking the 1.32 rom.zip and pushing it into the folder of the 1.72 updater ?
[Desire HD Android Development] DeXa:
No. It will not work.
[Desire HD Android Development] djattiman:
Okay, I took your advice. Back to 1.32. Rooting again. Then flashed Modaco, which I did'nt like just because of the launcher. Flashed Leedroid. Excellent. Now I am searching for the HTCSens account to synchronize. It isn't there where it used to be. But no big deal. I like the rom so far. Thanks for the advice. The Wifi is much more speedy and stable.
[Desire HD Android Development] danidin1:
Advice needed

I have the exact same specs (Original ROM version 1.32.832.6 (CH) Froyo 2.2. a China/HK model). I'm trying to root my device using Visionary Plus - however, cannot get passed the "temp root now" stage. It just stays on the black screen with yellow triangle and the "rooting now, please wait" msg. I have tried restarting the phone etc but without success.

Any ideas? tips?
[Desire HD Android Development] balander:
i just bought DHD from local store (second device, first DOA). The first device i had, it was able to upgrade to 1.72. But now i have 1.32 and when i check for updates it says that the phone is already updated.

HOW ON EARTH OFFICIALLY CAN I INSTALL THE NEW FIRMWARE? NOT CUSTOM ROM, NO ROOT, JUST 1.72.405 STOCK!
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
Use this RUU, it is the offical HTC method. OTA was pulled by HTC because the 1.72 ROM just does not work properly.
[Desire HD Android Development] balander:
Thanks for the reply.

This RRU contains GREEK language as well?

1.72.405 just updated 1 week ago to my first DHD (before DOA)
[Desire HD Android Development] CYNiCAL2KX:
Yeah its a WWE so should have Greek.
[Desire HD Android Development] pr2005:
S-ON ?? ..

My phone was locked by an other operator. I did downgrade to 1.32 root/S-OFF/CID-11111111

If I flash the phone with that new rom will the cell phone be simlocked again if I loose S-OFF and root ?

Thank's
[Desire HD Android Development] amir837837:
PLz Help...

i installed this rom... can i root it?? (s-off and recovery mod)
[Desire HD Android Development] n_yasin:
Hi all,

when I click the link above, gives me an forbidon error like i don't have enough permission to download this file. how come?

trying to -s off for HTC Desire HD

thanks
[Desire HD Android Development] jigners:
please provide download link, thanks
[Desire HD Android Development] ymeri:
new link to downoud there you are/....:eek:

http://www.general-files.com/go/4982310801

http://hotfile.com/dl/145190677/db20fdd/

you like my work push thenks...:D

wich version is 2.2 are 2.2.1
[Desire HD Android Development] ymeri:
This version is no work too install in my desire:screwy:
[Desire HD Android Development] liorra3:
interesting, its incloded new radio. download now (200k/s) - if some 1 flash it - update please...

go mike go! (:
[Desire HD Android Development] Isotopes:
First look (after uncompress system.img) it is FROYO 2.2.1 :D
[Desire HD Android Development] mike1986.:
S-ON will be probably reverted but if you have radio s-off then no need to worry.
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
Still got 70mb to go.................................Jebus:rolleyes:
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
MIRROR: http://xdafil.es/DesireHD/RUU/RUU_A...140f_26.04.02.17_M2_release_161342_signed.zip
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
Any secrets I should know B4 I flash it to the wifey's pride and joy
[Desire HD Android Development] Grantzxr:
ok flashed it is 2.21 it has returned phone to s-on and visionary will no longer work.
[Desire HD Android Development] west2cool:
i still got s-off with this ROM-its reading ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
hmz, RL is something new....

Any screenshots, improvements
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
did you have Radio S-OFF before or just the standard S-OFF?
[Desire HD Android Development] :
How is the speed?
[Desire HD Android Development] prank1:
All RUUs will convert ENG HBOOT S-OFF to S-ON, but Radio S-OFF should remain as S-OFF. Did you have ENG HBOOT S-OFF before or Radio S-OFF before?

If you had ENG HBOOT S-OFF before then it is normal for it to turn S-ON

If you had Radio S-OFF before and its turned to S-ON then that is not good.

You probably had Radio S-OFF which is why it is still S-OFF now. The guy above probably had ENG HBOOT S-OFF then.

Which is good news.
[Desire HD Android Development] Grantzxr:
just standard s-off
[Desire HD Android Development] kamma:
definitely gonna flash just system.img...
[Desire HD Android Development] prank1:
As for your visonary not working.. I am not a dev so make sure you double check this first.

You can *try* and flash an older version HTC RUU (1.32.405.6) and if it flashes, Visonary should work and you are back to square one.
[Desire HD Android Development] west2cool:
here is screenshot
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
Here is the radio ripped from rom.zip

http://www.mediafire.com/?zi7blgnz047ltfw
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
Screen shot of the rom itself??
[Desire HD Android Development] Grantzxr:
trying now will report soon
[Desire HD Android Development] Doktaphex:
If you did not have radio S-OFF then I think you will probably be out of luck. When you flash an old RUU it will probably leave the updated HBoot intact and therefore Visionary will still not work. I hope I am wrong but I think you will have to wait for the new security to be cracked open before you can gain root again.
[Desire HD Android Development] liorra3:
any "new" with the o/s and sense from the "old" vision ?
[Desire HD Android Development] west2cool:
here is another shot, everything else looks the same
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
How is the speed going?? Lag issues??
[Desire HD Android Development] Grantzxr:
error 140 :( older boot loader
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
Hmz so with S-OFF you can't go back??
[Desire HD Android Development] prank1:
Sorry, you will have to wait for it to be cracked.

Does anyone know if Radio S-OFF allows you to flash older versions of anything then?

He had ENG HBOOT S-OFF before, NOT Radio S-OFF
[Desire HD Android Development] Doktaphex:
It is as I stated above then, unfortunately you are out of luck until this new HBoot has been cracked open.
[Desire HD Android Development] Doktaphex:
Yes, I have downgraded my radio.img with radio S-OFF, I believe Xmoo can also confirm this.
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
Isn't the ENG HBOOT version higher than this one??

So only issue would be rooting...

Mayb they blacklisted visionary
[Desire HD Android Development] west2cool:
from wat i have seen so far not laggy at all
[Desire HD Android Development] prank1:
Cheers, do you know if it also allows you to flash older versions of HBOOT?
[Desire HD Android Development] Grantzxr:
seems quite fast no lag so far but then its a nice clean rom still. wi fi conects faster so radio seems better
[Desire HD Android Development] Doktaphex:
I haven't tried as I still have my ENG HBoot along with my radio S-OFF I would guess that you should be able to, however, don't quote me on that :D
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
Radio can be downgraded. So far Radio isn't giving any isues.

Only issue is now the RL in the bootloader.

What is it, and what does it do....
[Desire HD Android Development] :
We need a dump of this to start making ROMs right?
[Desire HD Android Development] Doktaphex:
I have created a warning thread linking to both this thread and the G2/Vision thread about the broken ROOT and S-OFF. Lets hope that the DEVs can crack open this HBoot soon.
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
Just flashed the wifey's phone and can confirm VISIONary won't work (sorry if it's been stated)

I had radio S-OFF and have successfully 'downgraded' to 1.32xxxxxxxx and rooted again
[Desire HD Android Development] leppie:
RL is perhaps Recovery Lock?
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
RootLock :P

Dunno, really. I hope someone finds out.
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
Funny thing is when you flash this rom trough bootloader.

There is a "-" next to the bootloader.

Wasn't on the oldroms
[Desire HD Android Development] Rithina:
May I ask if anyone know how to solve the USB connection error 170 error code when I start the RUU after the verifying stage...sorry if I am not an expert on this :o
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
Driver issue. Just flash using sd-card method.
[Desire HD Android Development] kamranh3:
Which radio is better?

Which radio is better?

There's: Radio_12.32.60.140e_ 26.04.00.05_M -HTC CHS 1.60.1400.7

That's my current one, but is the radio in this new Rom better?
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
Sorry but a basic PC question here,

I cannot open the rom.zip on the PC (Win7 64) are there any programs you guys use to get into these, I'm interested to look at the system img.
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
I'm using the new rom's radio, certainly for me picks up wifi quicker than the 1.32xxxxxx radio
[Desire HD Android Development] prank1:
You shouldn't need any program to open a zip file, it should open anyway..

What happens if you try and open rom.zip?
[Desire HD Android Development] Rithina:
Thanks.. I managed to goggle it and get the zip file but it says CID incorrect..does that means i need to make a gold card for it to work?
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
Try winrar. Works for me.

I flashed this rom with s-on (I rooted my phone back in the days, and only thing I changed was cpu speed... so no hardcore need). The speed is AMAZING!!
[Desire HD Android Development] lezperez:
So im currently on 1.32.405.6 permrooted stock rom with radio 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M and buzz kernel 1.1.4. I also have ENG hboot and radio S-OFF. Can I just flash the system.img and radio.img from this rom using fastboot? And keep everything as it is? Or will I lose my radio S-OFF?
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
It says Windows cannot open as PD98IMG.zip is invalid:confused:. Never had an issue with any zip files before. If I stick on the sdcard the phone recognises it
[Desire HD Android Development] saquib:
I have s-off show on bootloader. How can I check if my radio is also s-off? Thanks.
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
cheers all is well again in the wonderful world of windows.

could I flash the system image through fastboot?
[Desire HD Android Development] cattleprod:
thats what im going to do when!! it downloads lol

as im eng s-off
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
Tells me the system image is too large :p
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
PLEASE READ

​

anyone who has lost root + S-OFF with this RUU

can u gain temp root with visionary or is that what fails ? if so then we are out of luck at the moment ..... but if not please #desireHD on freenode irc and ill go through some stuff se if i can get something :D
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
VISIONary will not work with the new RUU. Only if you have full radio S-OFF and superCID can you roll back and gain root again
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
Visionary has 2 steps ... temp root .... then write unprotected .... there are 101 reasons for it not working, its could still work also there are WAYS that could allow downgrading ... editing /misc ect. ect.
[Desire HD Android Development] dreaswar:
+1 How can I check if my radio is also s-off?
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
Go to bootloader. If it says "Ship S-OFF", you are Radio S-OFF. If it says "ENG S-OFF", move to next step.

Go to bootloader -> system info. If it says CID 11111111, you are Radio S-OFF (SuperCID, but that comes with Radio S-OFF). If it says CID HTC__xxx, you are not Radio S-OFF
[Desire HD Android Development] kamranh3:
Revert?

If I update my radio to the one in this update, can I revert back?
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
Yes, just fastboot flash the old radio the same way.
[Desire HD Android Development] robE9:
Have to bother you with a newbie question.

What this release actually means? i mean that this build is not the final 2.2.1 and that`s why we don`t get this update on OTA or smth like that? ;p
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
No think it is final, but not pushed yet ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] saquib:
Would appear I am not. Have eng s-off and cid htc. Any easy guide to get radio s-off?

Thanks.
[Desire HD Android Development] kamranh3:
Last question, is there any way I can extract the radio from this update?
[Desire HD Android Development] jkoljo:
Use my radio tool.

I posted it a couple of pages ago. http://www.mediafire.com/?zi7blgnz047ltfw
[Desire HD Android Development] kamranh3:
Look around

In the first or second page of the Desire HD Android Development page there's a one click tool for radio S-OFF.
[Desire HD Android Development] Grantzxr:
using r14 tryed temproot now screen just go's black intill scren off with all 4 buttons lit up, kind of hangs phone then after an age you can return to nomal screen after pressing and holding power button and pressing restart but not going through with it. but now visionary wont even run intill phone has been restarted. hope thats of some use.
[Desire HD Android Development] derkie:
re: Push Email

by the way, hotmail/live exchange activesync is working in this Rom. :)
[Desire HD Android Development] kamma:
Uff, ROOTED !!!

Prerequisites

-------------

1. ClockworkMod Recovery

2. S-OFF

flashed just system.img and created custom CWM package for rooting.

here it goes...

http://rapidshare.com/files/438258951/system_flash_cw.zip

http://rapidshare.com/files/438255269/root_cw.zip

How-to

--------

1. download ROM package

2. download my CWM packages (above)

3. extract system.img from ROM package

4. copy system.img, system_flash_cw.zip and root_cw.zip to root of your SDCARD

5. reboot to ClockworkMod recovery

6. Update from zip system_flash_cw.zip

7. Update from zip root_cw.zip

8. reboot

9. ROOTED :)

works like a charm for me...

waiting for confirmation...
[Desire HD Android Development] TML1504:
perfect, will try!

thx!! :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
Ok seems temp root worked wich is very good but the radio is probably blocking the WP cycle so we have the same issue as some G2's now .... now looking into if we can downgrade via the misc hack.

hboot doesnt contole this the radio does and whe may be able to downgrade via the misc hack.... are u able to join IRC to test ?

many thanks
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
I'm getting the following error when I try to flash system.img:

fastboot-windows flash system system.img

sending 'system' (571388 KB)... FAILED (remote: data length is too large)
[Desire HD Android Development] cattleprod:
ive maded a PD98IMG.zip but removed recovery,radio and hboot

worked fine still got ENG s-off and clockwork recovery
[Desire HD Android Development] kamma:
you cannot flash it with fastboot...
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
Yes you can. I just figured it out:

fastboot-windows flash system rom.zip

..... worked!
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
My Bad

fastboot worked (flashing system) at the command line, but the phone isn't booting :(

EDIT: I'll follow your instructions to the letter ... should know if it works in 5 minutes
[Desire HD Android Development] lefty83:
So if I use kammas tools above with system.img I should have my new radio aswell as keep root/hboot? Also sorry to be a pain but could somebody extract system.img for me as I don't have access to pc at the moment .
[Desire HD Android Development] derkie:
re: system.img

i'm having prob extracting system img , can someone upload it, thanks

edit: just extracted it. ;-)
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
mmmmmmmm I get nothing but FC's on superuser
[Desire HD Android Development] cattleprod:
thanks kamma for root.zip, visionary r14 won't root, go to temp root and just hangs on a black screen.
[Desire HD Android Development] cattleprod:
have tryed unistall, reinstall the superuser

edit yup the superuser FC
[Desire HD Android Development] afrcom15:
yep tried that
[Desire HD Android Development] ystas27:
were can I find this system.img???? please link it
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
kamma's instructions worked perfectly (after stuffing around trying things myself)

Sorry, I didn't post this until now because I was taking a long time getting screenshots (with jittery fingers from lack of sleep and too much coffee, lol).
[Desire HD Android Development] kamranh3:
Error

I get this error when I try to install the new radio:

"sending 'radio' <24832 KB>. . . FAILED <status malformed <1 bytes>>

Something I'm doing wrong?
[Desire HD Android Development] mike1986.:
Can someone provide a mirror?
[Desire HD Android Development] walda:
Of whole ROM?
[Desire HD Android Development] mike1986.:
Yep, RUU file.
[Desire HD Android Development] walda:
http://xdafil.es/DesireHD/RUU/RUU_A...140f_26.04.02.17_M2_release_161342_signed.zip

i got it in ~4 minutes. not ok for you?
[Desire HD Android Development] nednapalm:
Why oh why can't you fix the HTC mail app HTC!

Still doesn't work with Hotmail Activesync!

sigh.

No lag so far though, very zippy - had a strange problem though where my apps, although listed when I synced google account, would download but not install in the marketplace - odd.
[Desire HD Android Development] Tatou26:
Is there someone to explain me how to extract and flash the system.img ?

I just did it for the radio (working like a charm), but I'm not sure how to do it for the system.
[Desire HD Android Development] neo.25:
how to got system.img from ROM package with winrar i cant,so how?
[Desire HD Android Development] :
You open the RUU then you go to your temp folder (%temp%) then you search for "rom.zip". There you have all the .img files :) You can close the RUU after copying that.
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
system image in place and rooted ... now for the radio

I get the files this way:

Run the HTC Installer: RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_release_161342_signed.exe

After "Preparing Setup" finishes, Look in C:\Users\[your Windows User Name]\AppData\Local\Temp (for Windows 7)

Sort folder names by date modified:

The most recently created folder will look like this:

{C5F79B86-7081-4312-A173-80538B4CE232} .... the code varies

The contents of this folder contain all the rom's files. Specifically, the firmware partition images will be contained in the file "rom.zip". The stock Windows Explorer can not read this file. I use 7Zip to extract system.img and radio.img from it.

The next step (radio) is achieved by:

fastboot-windows flash radio radio.img

or

fastboot flash radio radio.img

depending on which version of flashboot you have on your PC.

Here's how my rom looks after following kamma's advice to get the system image in place and rooted, and subsequently flashing the radio with fastboot:

I got a superuser process force close once (in the past hour or so). I'm going to run Rom Manager "Fix Permissions" to see if this prevents further episodes.
[Desire HD Android Development] :
Lol "flashboot" :p Word of the day :D
[Desire HD Android Development] cattleprod:
clear data from superuser, then go into clockwork recovery and fix permissions

mine working now
[Desire HD Android Development] TML1504:
worked for me. had to extract the system.img out of /users/username/appdata/local/temp/key (sort by modified date)

after applying the steps mentioned above the system boots.

had to reflash the kernel as well (due to the kernel modules missing in the sys partition), and reapply my skin (slate was a little bit broken)!

testing further and post if i will find something of common interest!
[Desire HD Android Development] fifi5987:
I tried to install the RUU but I have got an error 171 "USB Connection" ?? My phone stayed at HTC logo screen and when I unplugged it, the bootloader appeared, when I plugged it, the HTC logo screen came back...

Anyone else had this problem ?
[Desire HD Android Development] Tatou26:
WiFi doesn't work for me !

Any idea how to get it back ?
[Desire HD Android Development] Eddie1506:
Will the Visionary temp root still work?
[Desire HD Android Development] rulezzzor:
could anyone extract all files? from /sytem/lib/egl thank you !