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[Desire HD General] Learnincurve:
I have an unlocked DHD and flashed to radio 12.35a.60.140fU_26.04.03.30_M, aparently without problems. As I ony have acess to Linux PC,s I can't use the windows radio S-off utility.

1. What do I risk by not having it and is there a Linux alternative?

2. I see comparisons of signal strength and reliablility in the radio threads, but what about radiation levels? Do the modded radios give better signal strength because they are have higher output/radiation?
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
The risk of not being Radio S-OFF is that you won't be able to revert newer radios to a previous version if you should need that or if they shouldn't work as expected.

Unfortunately there's no radiation level info available. Usually a stronger signal means more battery usage and higher radiation levels, but expecially on the first radios there are bugs and fixes that can be made in order to make everything more efficient and stable to improve the signal without any improvement in radiation level or power consumption.

If you're using Linux and you're experienced by using terminal and ADB you can try asking to the S-OFF thread author if he has some manual steps in order to S-OFF your device.
[Desire HD General] jonkers71:
Question for people in Australia.

I am running cyanogenmod 7 and using Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF. I find my gps tracks all over the place. a 3km run tracks to be about 4.5km because it plots forwards and backwards. Its just a little crazy.

Just wondering what other people here in Aus are using.
[Desire HD General] mcnob:
I've noticed that no matter what radio I use on CM7, my location never shows any closer than within 20 metres and even then, it's not accurate. It tends to move about as well when i'm stood still.

On stock ROM it would show accurate to 3 metres.

Anyone got any comments, ideas or suggestions?

Ta
[Desire HD General] mcnob:
Also, has anyone developed a way to flash the radio from within the phone itself yet? Not got computer handy just now...... ;-)
[Desire HD General] leith51:
there is a way but its very long and complicated and a lot of messing about so im told
[Desire HD General] mcnob:
I'll wait til I get home then......lol
[Desire HD General] descenpet:
i used to be able to flash radios in recovery when i was using hero.. but hero doesn't use cwm so dunno if that is possible in cwm..
[Desire HD General] mcnob:
I could do it on my desire through cwm.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
Yeah its not been done as of yet but to be honest using my guide only takes less than 10 mins from start to finish including downloading everything

E=Mc2
[Desire HD General] descenpet:
i know fastboot flashing is fast.. i'm responding to his question of PC-less flashing. recovery flashing is quite handy when out somewhere and want to flash different radio to test or whatever reason..
[Desire HD General] igor.tonky:
i have this 20-40 meters accuracy when inside buildings on wifi, without gps lock. with gps lock and outside it's usually about 4-10.

cm7 nightlies, 26.06.04.06 radio.
[Desire HD General] XBOCT:
radio flashing

Look my description how to flash radio without connection to PC. May be this way is complicated... but only first time. Once you got flashable PD98IMG.zip with radio you can replace radio.img to any other version without using PC.

Here is PD98IMG.zip without any firmware. You can put your radio.img into this zip (by AndroZIP or by console zip) and flash it via fastboot without PC.

Note: while PD98IMG.zip exists in sdcard root you can't invoke CWM by 'VOL down' during boot process.
[Desire HD General] king of demons:
What does the best version of the Radio
[Desire HD General] mcnob:
I'd just like to say that after previous recommendations, I'm using radio 26.05.02.15_M (test) with very satisfactory results.

Using Phunky CM7 ROM with UK Vodafone.
[Desire HD General] Shidapu:
To continue the discussion of the new Radio_12.39.60.19_2 6.06.04.06_M im gonna start posting in this thread instead of the former (More fitting)..

Things i've noticed so far:

Seems to be better reception, or i might just be confused.. Holding it in my hand the normal way gives me 2-3 bars with M2_SF Radio, with this it seems more like 3-4 bars, but even sometimes 2 aswell.. It might just be dillusional..

I'll continue update in this thread once i know more about battery usage and so on..

Edit:

I've been running with the latest Radio now for a couple of hours, and its clearly evident that the new radio drains alot more juice than the M2_SF radio.. :( by alot i mean 20% in 4 hours..
[Desire HD General] Yoshi_523:
So far my testing not shown this. Both those radios appear very similar in power usage. I tested using Current Widget and LeeDrOiD 1.5.1 ROM (with many apps and widgets removed) this is using the Vodafone Australia network. The radios I tested are 28-JAN-2011 Telus WWE 12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2 Radio (lets call this just TELUS WWE RADIO) along with the 17-Jan-2011 Cingular US 12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M Radio (lets call this just CINGULAR US RADIO)

Telus WWE Radio is giving me 11-15mA drain when tested overnight with Bluetooth, GPS, Wi-Fi & APN[data] is all disabled and phone display is off. Over the course of 6 or so hours there was the occasional 22-25mA drain. Comparing with the Cingular US Radio I will have to leave it overnight to see if we also get the occasional 22-25mA jump in drain but other than that yes a short test does show the same 11-15mA drain. Both radios are usually sitting at 11mA. Both Radios seem to be giving me similar 3G/HSPA reception and call quality.

With Wi-Fi & APN[data] ON and Bluetooth & GPS OFF and the screen OFF for a number of hours using the Cingular US Radio I'm getting alternating readings of 14-25mA then 60-107mA of drain. Most commonly these readings are -14mA then -82mA. There was the a couple of roughly -200mA drains my guess is these are background data sync & weather updates. The Telus WWE Radio is showing similar fluctuating readings, most commonly they are -14mA then -83mA. Maybe we are getting more readings in the -80s and less in the -10s for the Telus WWE Radio.

So far I've made a few phone calls and seem to be getting fairly similar readings for the power usage between the two radios. I'll try out the old 04-Jan-2011 HTC WWE 12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF Recommended Radio and see if there are any differences I can find.
[Desire HD General] Tombias:
I am very curieus about the results. I am now on the 12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M therefor I had 12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2. This one drains battery much faster compares 12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M

I forgot which radio I had with Revolution HD 2.0.9 because that was a really good battery life and reception.
[Desire HD General] TAGTRAUM:
***************TEST***************

QuakeGL (timedemo demo1/3-pass/fps)

Radio_12.28g.60.140f_26.05.02.15_M_test - UK 1.75.771.2 - 37.504 / 38.517 / 38.803

Radio_12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2 - TELUS WWE 1.84.661.1 - 34.422 / 34.452 / 34.452 (lower)

Radio_12.39.60.19___26.06.04.06_M - Cingular US 1.80.502.3 - 38.050 / 38.748 / 38.896

Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF - HTC WWE 1.72.405.3 R2 - 38.565 / 38.616 / 38.772

Radio_12.35a.60.140f_26.04.03.30_M - HTC CHN 1.75.1400.4 - 39.005 / 39.012 / 39.196 (highest)

3D Performance addicted to Radio Version )))))))))))))
[Desire HD General] ricey1986:
quick question, are all radios compatible with all DHD as long as radio S-OFF? Ive come from the HD2 and there were radios for the two different types (EU & TMOUS)

Ricey
[Desire HD General] descenpet:
they will work even without radio s-off.. almost everything will function properly but performance may vary.
[Desire HD General] Yoshi_523:
So far the different radios I've tried all work and none were for my country so yes I'd assume they all work. My guess is maybe some work better in a particular region.

Radio S-OFF is not necessary to flash a different radio but ENG S-OFF is necessary. Radio S-OFF is of course highly recommended before flashing any new ROM otherwise you'll be locked out and have to go through the whole downgrade & goldcard procedure to get Radio S-OFF with 1.7x-1.8x ROMs.
[Desire HD General] Mad_Wolf:
I live in turkey and tried some of the radios

I have problems with 3g signal

so I'm using in 2g :(

any suggestion for good 3g signal reception
[Desire HD General] BumAround:
What kind of problem with 3G signal, exactly? Could you elaborate?
[Desire HD General] rosswaa:
what are people finding to be the best uk radio?
[Desire HD General] Grantzxr:
17th January 2011: Radio_12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M - Cingular US 1.80.502.3 - Alternate link by Rey-619

ausom battery life and very good signal with o2 in uk for me :)
[Desire HD General] petar.sabados:
Well guys I'm in Guildford and work for Vodafone. Im getting 1 bar of 2g. And this isn't the only place. Loverpool, bony heoghta, blaxland, called vale station are all places I've noticed really bad drop outs. But our vodafone coverage map shows full 3g.

It's not your radio.
[Desire HD General] makbil:
Unfortunately, 3G signal strength depends on where you live. I'm using LeeDroid ROM and radio 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2 and have no problems with 3G in Istanbul.
[Desire HD General] rosswaa:
Ill give it a whirl, cheers
[Desire HD General] Mad_Wolf:
I cannot have maximum signal strenght where I have full with some other phones like nokie etc
[Desire HD General] larsn84:
Shouldn't this thread be sticky?

Think it is very usefull, but Im always finding myself searching for it, when helping others.
[Desire HD General] McKebapp:
There are no stickies on XDA...

Sent from my... argh... STFU
[Desire HD General] Frostyeo:
Hi Guys! Any fellow Singaporeans here happen to know what radio we have when we first bought our stock DHD?

I'm on revolution HD and i think i did not make a back up of my radio, i don't know how to.

I'm on m1 teleco, and i don't know if its possible that any of you are on stock radio and can tell me what's the radio for us? And also does anyone of you have a copy of that radio.img which i can flash if i'm returning the phone for warranty? :)
[Desire HD General] acidic88:
Bro, I have it. Pm if you need me to upload it somewhere.
[Desire HD General] maxexcloo:
I'm in Australia on the Optus Network, does anyone have any tips for a radio that uses low battery and works well for things such as GPS/3G?
[Desire HD General] Dands:
Yoshi, have you any further feedback on radio versions?
[Desire HD General] tids2k:
try 28e with espresso rom ;)
[Desire HD General] lampz:
Radio_12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M_release.zip

hey is this a good radio????

for LEEDRIOD and ARDH?
[Desire HD General] leith51:
its not which rom you use really its the phone and network how it takes it tbh i tried it and it didnt do to well on mine but some ppl have had good results so just give it a try for a few days see how it goes if not to good you could always flash back
[Desire HD General] Moenmann:
The radio: Radio_12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M - Cingular US 1.80.502.3 worked wonders for my battery time/reception on CM7#3 with carrier Netcom in Norway :D
[Desire HD General] Vispe85:
I've been using the recommended 26.04.02.17_M2_SF for a week or so, it's been ok but it seems to have a some sort of delay when answering calls. When you answer it waits for a second or so before the other person can hear you, so I'll have to wait just a little bit before talking, have anyone else had this issue. Maybe I'll give the Cingular a go tomorrow and see how it performs.
[Desire HD General] noxiuz:
I am trying to flash a new radio, however when i boot my DHD with Vol- and after hboot the USB cable connect and i run fastboot devices no devices are found.

Im using androidsdk r10. Fastboot wasnt even in the tools folder but in platform-tools and it missed a DLL. So i guess r10 is not the type of androidSDK to flash your radio with. Cant find r7 or something either... :(
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
Copy fastboot.exe and adb.exe from platform tools to tools folder, and it will work.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
You could always the guide I made and tools there quick and simple

E=Mc2
[Desire HD General] PalaNIN:
Hi all, Australian user on the Three network (combined with Vodafone at the moment).

I was using the recommended 26.04.02.17 radio with CM7 for the last week or so, but I was getting some pretty poor call quality through the network. I flashed the Cingular US 26.06.04.06 radio last night, made a few calls, and noticed a pretty decent improvement. I suggest trying that one out if the recommended radio doesn't work.

Also, I've noticed that my reception cuts out when I'm changing between Wifi and mobile data. I think that's a CM7 issue though, as that's been happening on both radios.
[Desire HD General] Vispe85:
About the reception cut, does it just cut out for a couple of seconds? Are you using juice defender, it might be from jd settings that it's checked to cut out 3G when changing to wifi? Just a wild guess :D
[Desire HD General] PalaNIN:
Wow, don't I feel like a goose. Indeed I'm using JuiceDefender and that option was selected. Apparently JD is "very close" to getting an update which properly supports Gingerbread.
[Desire HD General] Vispe85:
Glad to help out! A little OT, the latest juicedefender private beta is running quite smoothly with CM7 so I guess they'll bring a stable release pretty soon, hopefully :p
[Desire HD General] Dands:
So what exactly are you telling or showing us? I for one am lost.
[Desire HD General] Vispe85:
I think he is trying to say that the radio version somehow affects the 3D acceleration/overall performance of the phone, which I find kind of useless info tbh :p Even if this were so I think it is a pretty stupid idea to start changing radio versions to improve gaming quality, but hey if you like testing stuff :rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] brk3:
Hi all, without reading through the past 63 pages, is there a rundown somewhere of the main differences between the various radios?

From what I hear different ones work in different areas or for different use cases.. but for the most part people just seem to say they "prefer" a certain one. You have to agree that's very vague info to make a decision on! :confused:
[Desire HD General] Vispe85:
No there really aren't any ultimate thruts about this afaik :p Probably the best way to get a hold of this is to just try a few different ones for a couple of days (mainly the recommended and the newest) and try out various things i.e calling, 3g, wifi, gps and choose the one that seems to work the best. Or at least that's what I did and now I'm most likely staying on the Cingular as it seems to be the best so far on every aspect.

And keep an eye on the battery drain also. IMO they all work and the whole radio thing is more or less reallyreally fine tuning, but hey when we can do it why shouldn't we? :D
[Desire HD General] kuceens007:
hello to all,tehere is a new RUU ,how i can get radio from it?
[Desire HD General] thorfr:
wait the fist msg will be updated soon ;)
[Desire HD General] ruchern:
Nice thread.
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Orange UK 12.28g.60.140f_26.05.05.27_M3 available for download. Enjoy :)
[Desire HD General] thorfr:
Ty speedy :D
[Desire HD General] :
Flashed. Phone booted. Working (giffgaff UK on an ex-Orange phone).
[Desire HD General] kuceens007:
of course its working.now i will test it haw fast it is and how it eats a battery
[Desire HD General] vinnieminnie:
Do we know what this radio is focused on? Battery life or signal strenght?
[Desire HD General] MrGarak:
Thanks Drakknar.
[Desire HD General] :
WiFi signal strength has significantly improved on CM7.
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Anytime guys :) Fingers crossed it will retain (or improve) the good battery life of the 26.04.02.17 radio
[Desire HD General] kuceens007:
+ im coming from that radio :) i want to see results too
[Desire HD General] MrGarak:
Working well.
[Desire HD General] noxiuz:
Thanks for the advise!!!

I already tried moving fastboot.exe before, the trick is to boot without USB, vol- and in HBOOT select fastboot itself and most important: enter it :P. The tutorial never mentioned it...

And because im kinda new to android i always follow the tutorial strictly :P
[Desire HD General] kamranh3:
Good signal and wi-fi performance, and battery drain seems minimal, good radio!
[Desire HD General] colonel_lp:
also can confirm wifi and network seems better,

"time to first GPS Fix = 8s" indoors and thats after resetting internal GPS state. :-)
[Desire HD General] dstenc:
I've flashed to Radio_12.28g.60.140f_26.05.05.27_M3.

So far so good. No problems. Still evaluating battery life.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
mine stuck on sending radio what can i do ?
[Desire HD General] kuceens007:
dont switch off!!!!!!

have a look in radio thread
[Desire HD General] leith51:
i didnt it shut off itself
[Desire HD General] kuceens007:
and? what it says?
[Desire HD General] leith51:
its working fine still got same radio as before but none of my computers are syncing up to it use adb on laptop i get device not found and on desktop it wont send radio
[Desire HD General] kuceens007:
you have adb and htc sync installed correct? and for your phone eng s-off
[Desire HD General] leith51:
This what I'm not understand my guide how to flash radio works fine but since I wiped laptop it doesn't work yes I have eng s-off I had to reinstall HTC sync from from the website problem is when I downloaded it from the HTC desire hd section it reads wildfire????? As for adb well how can I reinstall ????

E=Mc2
[Desire HD General] kuceens007:
adb comes with android SDK on http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[Desire HD General] leith51:
I've got that but no commands or working

Does it matter that I don't have my HTC sense account added ??

E=Mc2
[Desire HD General] kuceens007:
i havent too
[Desire HD General] leith51:
Stuff knows then it won't pick up when I type adb devices either

E=Mc2
[Desire HD General] pablo11:
EDIT - Sorry guys . Just realised you dont need this post. Oh well :rolleyes:

Just unpack the folder in my zip attachement to your root directory (c) and get into bootloader. Select fastboot on the boot loader and plug in usb. It should now read fastboot usb in bootloader. Extract your radio to the new Fastboot directory and rename to radio

Then open a command prompt and:

cd c:/ fastboot

Then type:

fastboot-windows flash radio radio.img

now press enter.

Radio will now flash. Works for me every time.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
My guide based the same way dude probs the things in the zip lol

E=Mc2
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Is your device showing up in Device Manager on the laptop? Instead of HTC Sync drivers I'd try to force-install Google Android ADB Interface or Android Composite ADB Interface drivers. You can download them from Google or download the attached zip (The Nexus One Drivers will work for Froyo; If you have any Gingerbread based ROM you'll have to download the Nexus S Drivers from the latest SDK Installer).
[Desire HD General] pablo11:
Yeah just realised that so I tried to edit my post - but too late. I can't believe it - your phone died while using this method? I'm worried now!!

Droid explorer can force install adb too. As long as htc sync is not running.
[Desire HD General] ironeagle:
MD5 Checksum is different for the latest Radio

MD5 Checksum is different for the latest Radio, anyone has checked?.
[Desire HD General] lampz:
hey were can we GET the official radio img??

where do you get this guys? i just want to know.. :)
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
MD5 Checksum is calculated from the Radio.img itself and not the zip package :)
[Desire HD General] kamranh3:
Try using the Android Flasher by he_stheone64, you can flash radios, splash screens etc
[Desire HD General] ironeagle:
u r right.. thanks.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
I tried that once to flash radio but got remote not allowed which is strange to be honest it should have worked fine cause I flashed straight after using the zip from my thread as I do have all requirements like radio and eng s-off simunlock and rooted but it does work a treat on splash screens even the ones that are not correct format it converts it and flashes it

E=Mc2
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Maybe you could try using a ROM.zip from a previous HTC release and delete everything except for radio img. In this case the bootloader will just flash the requested file and hopefully you'll get back your full phone functionality...
[Desire HD General] razor 116:
I have tested the latest Radio Orange UK 1.84.61.2 25th February no problems sound, GPS, Network Signal, Wifi and calls/mobile data all working without problems.

battery usage never went over 5ma overnight using android revolution 2.0.15 with included kernel
[Desire HD General] Boskoel03:
Thanks thanks thanks,usefull
[Desire HD General] wmfreak:
new orange uk

flashed the new orange UK radio and so far seems great so far. flashed over rev HD 2.0.15 Location Romania, carrier Orange. We have yet to test the battery life.

W
[Desire HD General] lampz:
Wow theres a new radio!

Wer did you get this? Haha i really want to know ü

Is this official?really?
[Desire HD General] lampz:
Whats orange btw? Wwe? Telus?

Im really confused wth this..

Hmmm i really hoping this would be good for our dhd specially the battery life!

So your using it Lready? Cn you compare wth your old radio whch is? And also what rom your using?
[Desire HD General] XBOCT:
Usually this means that you don't have eng hboot (s-off) or don't have radio-S-OFF.

Do you know way to check that you have BOTHS S-OFF and radio S-OFF? I don't know how to check this (if first line in bott loader is "... ENG S-OFF.." we can't say something about radio security setting).

You can try to flash radio from PD98IMG.zip. If you can flash radio from PD98IMG.zip then you can be sure that problem is in your PC if you can't problem is in DHD.

here is flashable zip with 12.28g.60.140f_26.05.05.27_M3 radio image. Put PD98IMG.zip to the root of SD card and flash from bootloader. This does not mean that I would recommend this radio to use, it's just something that I have prepared myself for testing.
[Desire HD General] daniello8:
Hmmm ...

is this radio

Radio_12.28g.60.140f_26.05.05.27_M3

really newer than this radio

Radio_12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M

?

Looking at the numbers it doesn't look like it. Though the release dates in post 1 suggest that it is the case.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
The radios released or regional do will be better for some and not for others depending on network

E=Mc2
[Desire HD General] Shidapu:
I've been trying out the new Radio_12.28g.60.140f_26.05.05.27_M3 and so far, everything seems great really, reception, wifi, even some smoother smoothness in the menu..

But, it feels like the mobile phone is slower at recharging (I know it sounds silly), but i've had the charger in the USB for over an hour now, and the % is going really slow.. Might just be delusional.. but normally it charges to max pretty fast, and i've been watching 3-4 episodes of some hollywood drama..

Havn't given this radio enaugh time though, i have to check tomorrow morning how the Idle power usage is..

I'll be back! :)

Edit:

Did some research with the Current Power Widget, and im very positive to have seen above 450+ mA when charging, atm its moving at 250-310mA.. It actually does look like the phone doesnt want juice anymore... Could it be the Radio handling this?..

Edit2: Some more testing, and current widget seems to show even less power in for the phone, this radio seems to be having difficulties to power up.. Im reverting to SF again.. :)
[Desire HD General] gravityz3r0:
I had the same case like you when I have flashed

28th January 2011: Radio_12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2 - TELUS WWE 1.84.661.1

Phone warm all the time + connection with full bar signal but uncontactable + can't send sms out, need to refresh the operator / restart . Phone use 350ma - 500ma all the time.

Now I have reflashed it back to

4th January 2011: Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF - HTC WWE 1.72.405.3 R2

And now, my consumption average 1-5ma without the signal problem anymore.