yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
So basically, your method charges in a more linear fashion (up to a full battery) and (potentially) charges from 95% capacity to 100% (using ms's way of scaling voltage) until removed from the charger. This is achieved by scaling how much voltage is actually going into the battery instead of pushing max voltage until the battery is around 100%?

So if you left it on the charger overnight, you could pick the phone up in the morning with anywhere from 95% to 100% capacity, depending on where you are in the charge cycle?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
Lol same that the bump version did. (V8)
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
Yes, but there was no v8 for sense :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
As aimbdd said, it is a sort of bump charge process like v8. I forgot to mention I run sense based roms and v8 was not available for sense at the time. But your general idea is correct as far as what my kernel is doing now. I am still testing it though so there's no guarantee of anything to be honest.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dthomas03:
Aside from all the SBC talk.

Any progress or ETA on v9?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jbcarrera:
i think its dead bud you will have to message ms to find out
[EVO 4G Android Development] jtadeo:
I think my eyes are failing on me but I'm not seeing the download link... could anyone please link me?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jbcarrera:
they were taken down
[EVO 4G Android Development] jtadeo:
aww that sucks... :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] LuvThyMetal:
I got most of the kernels that were posted up on here, except the V8 kernels. Hit me up if you need them.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Where did you get that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jbcarrera:
keyword in my post was

think

I'm not exactly sure why he took it down but i know it had to do with all the reports of his sbc kernel messing up their phones personally i think its bs but if he felt he had to take them down then i'm with him when i used his kernel's they worked great but I use my phone alot and constantly chargeing it was going to ruin my battery more than it is now with out the SBC kernel if i wasn't constantly on my phone I'm pretty sure I would have gotten alot better battery life but if i'm wrong then forgive me but I'm sure ms will bring something back

also the post does now end with No-More
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
Nah. He said he was working on a new version.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
I have a rough version of v9, has major undervolting, I couldn't get it to boot my miui, ms is working on it when not playing with the meizu9 kirf port, i don't know a time scale for it but it well be awesome
[EVO 4G Android Development] islandreamer:
The best of what I can remember is v8 was originally for ASOP and utilized the bump method of charging. With that being said it could be used on sense without any ill effects. Used it on mine running Azrael 3.1, just liked the trickle method better then bump personal prefference.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
Yea but ms I believe said it was for both sense and aosp but don't quote me but im almost certain that's correct, ne one else remember that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
U beat me damn it lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
Wow I just read the warnin and I think I would leave it just like that funny as hell but still giving warnin great stuff ms. Well keep up the good work and lookin 4ward to V9
[EVO 4G Android Development] PinnerProxy:
where's the download link haha? i feel so stupid but i really dont see it..
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
There isn't one until V9 comes out bunch of testing and waring **** going on bc of people being worried about their phone batterys. Could be true could be false no one will know but dev or someone that proves a point. But pretty much somes up what happend all u missed was like a week of flaming bashing name calling and stress rippin ur hair out type ****. But its better thank god and all us well and civil and just playin a waiting game
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
More like a tense situation that could erupt at the smallest spark haha, although the cease fire has lasted longer this time
[EVO 4G Android Development] vide infra:
anybody have a link to one that could work with the new CM7 Nightly?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
I have SBC v7 for non sense. I pmed you a link
[EVO 4G Android Development] cb7tuner93:
Nooooo!!!!!!

Unbelievable! You are done all because of a bunch of BABY'S sad, Hopefuly you return bro awesome work NEVER NEVER EVER have I had a problem with your Kernels MS. See ya soon.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ChadH42:
Your SBC-net-4.2.2-less-havs-v7 Kernel is the best for battery life by a wide margin. I have my EVO docked in a charger all night for 10-12 hours (sleeping in on the weekends) and my extended battery is happy as a clam!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smidgers:
I used v8 on sense with no issues.. Not sure if its ideal for sense, but works
[EVO 4G Android Development] smiznith:
i read an article that says that our lit ion batteries have a chip in them to prevent over charging... if that is the case, that means the trickle charge will charge it full but not over charge, or am i wrong?

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...eries-have-overcharge-protection-chip-inside/
[EVO 4G Android Development] chris66:
Really?...... wow....

Now can you put them back plz? We aren't all a bunch of flatworlders.

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] mlin:
Sorry for the delay, here is Savage 1.6 (w/SBC) for AOSP ROMs. This will work with the CM7 nightlys

View attachment Savage-Kernel-v1.6-BFS-HAVS-WiMAX.zip
[EVO 4G Android Development] khshapiro:
Can someone post up or pm me with a working v8 for sense
[EVO 4G Android Development] JML71:
I want to say thank you. I have this Kernel installed, and with Juice Defender I have seen really good battery time.

Please keep up the good work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chas123:
Me too please.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Did you try clicking the paperclip next to this thread and check out the files?
[EVO 4G Android Development] onehitter:
Did YOU try clicking on the paperclip next to this thread? Because if you did you would see that none of the Kernels are there because he took them down.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sabres1985:
Please continue your work on this excellent kernel! I have gotten battery life that I never thought possible with this phone. Don't let the haters bring you down, there are many of us who very much appreciate your work. Thank you!
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
ha! there are kernels in the paperclip, but i appreciate you finding the chance to be an @ss, certainly the way to get other folks share that stuff
[EVO 4G Android Development] chas123:
I tried the paperclip but didn't see anything clearly marked v8. Did I miss it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
Here ya go http://androidforums.com/2061751-post48.html

Yeah its says for asop but only V8 can be used for both and that's what ms said and I'm sure others can quote me haven't tried it but I think I'm like 99.9 % correct tho but use at ur own risk lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] islandreamer:
MS took all his links off. If you click on the paperclip those are ones that some posters included in their posts. The v8 is for AOSP but works well with sense and utilize the bump method. If you want a link PM me and I will send it to you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
Ha ha I beat u this time last night u beat me but I got u hehe
[EVO 4G Android Development] islandreamer:
I bow before you , SIR.:p
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
Lol thanks I kinda actually feel a lil special
[EVO 4G Android Development] khshapiro:
Thank you!
[EVO 4G Android Development] chas123:
Another thanks from me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Get a room
[EVO 4G Android Development] chas123:
So you are now subscibing to the hypeful crap that has almost made this thread (and others dealing with the whole SBC thing) impossible to follow? Was it the last scotch?

I have been following all of the threads concerning 'smoking batteries', dying/dead batteries'. etc. I reallize that there is a lot of fact, fiction and down right conjecture spinning around/concerning the subject. I have never flashed an alternative kernel (alternative=what comes with whatever mostly stock rom that I choose). I have followed the SBC threads because I know that, with all the radios and screen off, ther is no way my battery should go from 100% to 95% in an hour. I thought that SBC might offer a solution.

I am 45 and have been in the electonics industry since I was 18, and though I am not a degreed engineer, I have taken university level math (so much that I need a calculator to figure out what 45-18 is), physics, dynamics, fluids, etc.

v8 seemed like an attempt by the OP to rectify a potentially harmful or dangerous mod by coming up with an alternative based on feedback presented in his thread. That is why I asked for it. While most if not all of your posts provide great insight, that one wins the award for the most useless of the entire thread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
wow, most boring post in response to a little tongue in cheek jokes, live a little
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
Ive been wondering something about the bump charge method. I tried it and didnt really care for it, i get better results with 131. But my question is, if batteries have a limited amount of life charges, each time during the bump charge that the charger shuts off and kicks on again, is that taking off the batteries total life charges?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigkmoney:
Maybe I missed it but do you know if this has SBC v7 or v8?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
The one he posted has V7 and is for AOSP roms
[EVO 4G Android Development] islandreamer:
To best of my recolection the AOSP start out "SBC-bcnice-stable-v", the number of the build is after the v. & 7 being trickle while 8 is bump.

The sense ones start "SBC-net-4.1.9.1-more-havs-v" again the number of the build after the v. 131 and 132 were just that.

Sorry mwielgosz by the time I clicked on quote I was down one. Was answering the same one as you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
Haha this thread is becoming more and more useless. Long time no talk Gman. Keep it coming. These guys just to lighten up and have a good time while we wait for ms to be given the green light or this thread would be closed. I still find the things you say Very funny.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
The one he is refering to, which is posted back a page or so, is savage 1.6 bfs sbc. Like you said, the sbc kernels released by Ms himself are the bnice builds.

Never tried a bnice build so I can't say how they are...but the savage kernel is great. Excellent battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] islandreamer:
I only tried the v8 but didn't care for the bump charge. Have a copy of "Savage-Kernel-v1.6-CFS-HAVS-WiMAX" but it does not state whether or not it is SBC. Does your copy state SBC in the name? Have a CFS without SBC and it says "Savage-Kernel-v1.6-CFS-HAVS-WiMAX-NoSBC". If yours state SBC in it can you PM me a link. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Mine didn't say sbc when I downloaded it, but I tagged it myself. I can send you a copy if you'd like. Bfs, cfs, or both. I also have the nosbc versions

EDIT: sent pm with all 4 versions

Edit 2: it links to a .zip with the different versions inside. Don't flash the zip...open it first and extract the one you want
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Haha, no problem
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Trying to get this battery to drop a percentage while the charger is set to 0 but the cable is still plugged into the phone is ridiculous. I've been waiting for forever just to drop 1% >.<
[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
:O:O How is the project going??
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
Damn man share the wealth!!! lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] webguru4life:
classic!

This kernel could possibly blow up your phone, ruin your credit, steal your late night snacks and slap a baby turtle so USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THOSE THINGS (contact PETA about the baby turtle..not me).

Classic man! Love it dude. btw your kernel has never gave me any issues. Its the greatest!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
+1
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
Dude that **** is the best I told him to keep that there as his warning foreal hehe
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
That pissed me off too when I was testing.

When the charger shuts off I set brightness to 100%, played music with the htc music player, had wifi and 4g on (4g does alot of activity in the background that I have found recently).

Took me at the most 10 minutes to "force" the level to drop to where I wanted it to be. printk messages help too. ;)

Shoot me a pm if you want to see my code block. I've pretty much finished with it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Aiight I'll shoot up that good pm. And have you noticed that when the charger is off..it seems to drain but at the same time, it seems to maintain the current voltage. I was losing 122mA on 61% but my voltage wasn't dropping at all. It only dropped once I turned my screen on.
[EVO 4G Android Development] makojr:
I know this thread got crazy for a bit, but I'm glad MS didn't quit because there are still people that still are grateful that SBC is around! I still am using the v7 SBC and hope to see more versions soon! Thank you MS and thanks for your hard work! :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
I did. I was doing all my testing with the screen on to give it some sort of voltage drain when I needed it.

I also helped it along like I said earlier with doing other stuff but the voltage will drop if you don't let it sit doing nothing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Goin alright, I just dont know how much time i'll have to work on it...i start back with my school business this week >.< I'm just glad that I'm taking fun classes this semester.

Your welcome your welcome. I think having an option for something thats proven to be safe for everyone and then the full charging will be good. Im always going to use v7 because I love that charging, but charging to 100% then down to like 98 and back to 100 is still good too I guess.

And with all this work, im starting to see exactly what messes up our battery life. 3G is a monster...and on Sense roms, that option taht says "always on mobile data" when unchecked doesnt always turn the 3G off. If you dont have a wifi connection, thats pretty much useless and your battery will be burnin. I need to stop being so dependent on this 3G because with it off and with these kernels out now...battery life is just nasty. With 3G off and Netarchy's 4.2.2 SBC, I was listening to music for an hour and didnt lose a percent (im still not sure how that happened but it did...). Also, battery life with these phones is just that slippery slope. It's not like this phone is a guzzler, its just that the battery temp raises really really fast and once that temp raises its all downhill from there. Sometimes I wonder what would happen if you got a bigger case for the back of the phone and put some holes in it (not that big of holes)...That should help with temp...right? iunno
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
MS.......So when the time comes u are going to put back up all ur builds u did in this thread right. I figured u would have like a secondary site like nets. Well I'm a supporter so thanks. So since u like these v7 builds is the v9 going to be like that or now u have to play it by the book bc of people?
[EVO 4G Android Development] okaytran:
maybe instead of having a kernel that charges to 100% and scares all the skeptics, why not have the charge stop at 98% or so, rather than htc's 90 and sbc's 100. that way people won't be scared and we'd get more battery. I wish I knew how to dev. :(

sent from evo using xda app
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jfree3000:
Can someone confirm that the kernel attached to this thread is the Sense SBC kernel or just some random addition.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Greenfieldan:
Wait, the files were taken down because of skeptics?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jfree3000:
Sad huh? Just wish I had grabbed the sense version before this happened.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
theres no kernel attached to this thread in the OP. only the githubs of ms and nets
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jfree3000:
There is actually a kernel that you can download when you click on the paper clip.

EDIT: Can someone just pm the sense sbc kernel please?
[EVO 4G Android Development] blackroseMD1:
PPC Geeks forum

The links are up over there.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
those are kernels other people have posted up .. not the ones that ms has posted

which sense ? also few pages back there is a host with all of them
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rene2.5RS:
Here you go guys v7 SBC

Based on Net 4.2.2 non-havs CFS
[EVO 4G Android Development] dthomas03:
Any body have trouble with Bluetooth on v8 on CM 6.1.1?

For some reason I can't search or pair things

Help!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kd0axs:
Glad to see these kernels put back up.

I do have to say that I have been skeptical of the SBC kernels from the beginning and I choose not to use them. I really wasn't surprised when battery failures started popping up. However, XDA is all about development and pretty much everything here is experimental and carries some sort of risk. As long as people using SBC are aware that there is a risk involved, I see no reason why they shouldn't be here.

Keep up the good work guys!

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G with Tapatalk
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
DEAR GOD I LOVE YOU......no homo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] js417:
This kernel could possibly blow up your phone, ruin your credit, steal your late night snacks and slap a baby turtle so USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THOSE THINGS (contact PETA about the baby turtle..not me)

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hell yeah! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] swaze:
is one of these configured for cm7?
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
glad to see the links backup
[EVO 4G Android Development] ChadH42:
Thank you for making the excellent kernels available again! I have been running SBC-net-4.2.2-less-havs-v7 with excellent results. My battery life is amazing!
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhantomHacker:
Glad to see your and your Kernels are back Ms. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Swede2008:
So is v8 supposed to be less risky than v7 for battery issues? Specifically for the sprint extended battery.

Sent from my HTC Evo! :-D
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Technically, yes. The v8 uses bump charging sort of like a stock kernel does, but with a different implementation. Although I, along with many others, have been using variations of v7 for a long time with extended batteries without any hiccups.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheapskate88:
Crap. I used Netarchy's 4.3.1 bfs havs with sbc and 8 baby turtles were slapped...

Why would you ever develop such a thing ms!?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
You had better contact PETA before its too late...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Swede2008:
Thanks for the info, v8 for me then, even though its technically for aosp :-)

Sent from my HTC Evo! :-D
[EVO 4G Android Development] skyfox99:
Oh the horror. I was more concerned about my Fritos disappearing, screw the cute little titles.

Been running 4.2.2 since pretty much day one... Left out on the charger all day and no venting with flames here!
[EVO 4G Android Development] altosvirtual:
Glad to see u back, your kernels rock!!!! thanx!!!

BTW. My turtles are fine..................

..........

(for now)...here´s where the horror music starts, lol!
[EVO 4G Android Development] chris66:
Hey thanks for putting these back up! Been using v7 for weeks, works like a charm!

(can the next one have a possible (guaranteed even better), mute wife side effect?...even a chance is better'n nothing (just kidding, but not really. :rolleyes:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] roblin00:
Tried flashing 4.9.1 no havs and it comes back with signature issues :confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] salukis93:
does that mean we can use the asop builds with sense roms
[EVO 4G Android Development] stargaterules:
So happy the links are back up. I had nothing but great results for a while now and 0 issues. Thanks for an awesome work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
Sounds like youre using the newest amon recovery, make sure you uncheck sig. verification then try reflashing
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
Hey MS, when can we expect v9? Looking forward to see what you got coming up
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Important distinction is these are Net's kernels that MS graciously patches for us and is stated in the OP
[EVO 4G Android Development] SouthernEvo:
Welcome back MS good to see you are back . Thanks again for all your hardwork and not letting all the negativity keep you down and out .

*Eats Turtle soup*
[EVO 4G Android Development] islandreamer:
Links

Thanks for putting the links back. Glad to see the naysayers didn't get you down. Looking forward to more great work!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowspeed:
+2 for support. Keep it up. ;-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jhuff83:
I have been using v8 on a sense rom. Is this bad? I seem to not notice any problems.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jdrestless:
I second this, have been running the HTC KERNEL #15 v7 with 1800mah batt.
[EVO 4G Android Development] schmooo:
holy crap just flashed the bfsv7 with sbc on miui and got a 1531 in quadrant with no overclocking set on conservative..... very impressive

edit: good god just did it again and got a 1616 with no oc on conservative gov. how do i take a screen shot in miui something like hold down the volume and do something else??
[EVO 4G Android Development] webguru4life:
A little off topic: does miui have 4g yet?
[EVO 4G Android Development] schmooo:
no 4g.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] firestetz:
Great to see you and your kernels back love your work been running for a while and only problem I had was my cheetos went missing and all baby turtles ran away but the cheetos could be my fault but not sure yet. Just wondering are there any plans for a version with bfs?

Sent from my warmed up ripped up and slain evo beast
[EVO 4G Android Development] webguru4life:
I believe you. Miui is awesome. I'm just waiting for 4g and I'll be a miui junkie once again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] webguru4life:
Lol. Sticky!
[EVO 4G Android Development] schmooo:
no oc, conservative
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
So hows nets 4.3.1 no havs sbc in either bfs or cfs. Dl both of them but haven't tried yet bc I'm trying out aosp so yea it sucks. Much help thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] stylz3:
There's a BFS version of this kernel? what's it at?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sugarsine:
Another happy user here been running Net's 422 since day 1 & no explosion. Welcome back and i hope you keep up development of this great patch. Thanks again for your work and time..
[EVO 4G Android Development] aph:
I just moved to AOSP (CM7 RC0) and Savage 1.6 SBC was giving me random reboots 1-2 times a day, so I moved to MS.

v8 was oscillating on the mA's and giving me way higher voltages than I wanted >4245+ mV so I am trying v7... stay tuned.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aph:
http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/
[EVO 4G Android Development] stylz3:
These are Net's Kernels, I though MS had BFS kernels. Must be my miss interpretation. Thanks anyway though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aph:
MS is based on Net's (except for AOSP.) Those are Net's own compiled versions with MS's code.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HTCRALEIGHFAN:
i want version 9!!! now!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
Glad to see these back up :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] wookiebush:
Another dead battery

I'm perfectly willing to accept this as being coincidence, but my battery just died while using a SBC kernel. I'm running Vaelek 3.0 with the SBC For Netarchy 4.1.9.1 CFS No-HAVS. After last charge, it nose dived (with minimal use) to 0% and after "charging" all night is still at 0%.