yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Award Tour:
In a world where battery tech is stagnant, the form factor is very small, and tech moves fast but not blazingly fast, being a early adopter to a dual core phone will come at a price.

We'll definitely learn more at CES. Oh and by the way, all of that info I gave, I read on blogs. Maybe if you followed your own advice you'd make more valid arguments.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattykinsx:
Have a happy holiday, sir.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Award Tour:
You too.. and my bad if I come off as aggressive but online arguments have become a regular diversion for me. Now back to coding.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rem3Dy:
Wow you are dense. I will try again.

The evo at 1ghz is as fast as the newer processor in the evo shift at 800mhz.

Evo overclocks = 1.22

Shift overclocks = 1.9

Evo gpu = adreno 200

Shift gpu = adreno 205

If you can't figure this out after reading this apply yourself and look it up. Otherwise stop talking and trying to reason with yourself that our evos are still top of the line.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jesusice:
*meekly steps through the flames*

Well, I could give a crap about a FFS and I need a physical keyboard. Currently rocking the Samsung Moment so I've had enough with Samsung's BS and won't get the Epic (STILL no Froyo??). So the Shift is looking like it for me. My girl's got the Evo and has never had a problem and HTC seems to actually support their devices.

I know nothing about mhz and processor speeds but I find it hard to believe that HTC would follow up their smash hit with the Evo and come out with an underpowered, dissapointing phone.

All I really want is a frequently updated phone with a physical keyboard and a battery that will last throughout the day. Fingers crossed, the Knight will be it.

Sent from my SPH-M900
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigbailey1986:
Just for argument sake, because the technology is newer is makes it better?

Wish that could be said for software also ie: Microsoft...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattykinsx:
I

sincerely

doubt that the Evo Shift is the Successor to the Evo.

You are talking about the difference in software and hardware.

And I would say Windows 7 is probably the best Windows OS. Just for your i.e's sake.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jesusice:
Well, assuming that it will in fact be called the Evo Shift I'd like to think that HTC wouldn't tarnish the Evo brand with an inferior product.

(Please spare me from your mighty flamethrower, just trying to have a civilized discussion about phones here)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigbailey1986:
Window 7 seriously.... I guess... but hey it is what it is...o I didn't compare the differences between hardware and software I merely wanted to know if new meant better..
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattykinsx:
I'd say so.

Windows 7 is the only windows os I've ever used that has never given me a bsod or freezing of any kind.

I wouldn't suggest its perfect but, comparative to my experiences with all from windows 3.1, 95, 98, me, 2000, XP, vista and now seven....yeah I'd pick seven anyday.

But that's just MY experience I guess
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jbcarrera:
not trying to Flame anyone or put anyone down but from the specs on the Knight/EVO Shift4G its a CDMA Sense Version of the G2 or Desire Z so i would expect it to perform like the G2 a pretty beastly little phone I know it can be o'cd to 1.9ghz but not stablely the last stable o'c for the G2 was if i'm not mistaken 1.77ghz which is still double what its underclocked so the Shift 4G is hardware wise better than the EVO. I personally am gonna wait for the real replacement to the EVO a duel core HTC Phone with a better GPU than the shift (supposedly a tegra 2)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigbailey1986:
Well as for system performance for me and my line of work (music producer) windows xp is hands down the best operation system for my personal use.

Which brings me to my conclusion, hardware and software performance will never seem the same for any 2 ppl because of individual use and preference.

I am gonna wait til something big comes along not just a little upgrade. Hope the swift is all its been talked about up here
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swaze:
To the OP, please do yourself a favor and get the phone you feel is best for you. Noone else's opinion can actually tell you what it is you are looking for. Ignore all this nonsense about faster processors, and cpu, gpu because its all bullshyt. All of these phones can do the same things, the nexus s doesn't do anything any other android doesn't do. And if someone tries to say well its faster..........BULL...If milliseconds are worth paying ETF's just to get a freaking phone, well i just can't imagine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=novBP15VGdY

speaks for itself.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Award Tour:
...browser speed tests are the biggest waste of anyones time. Ever. The browsers are the same. The SAME. Actually, the 2.3 on the Nexus S might even be better. Test them on a mobile connection, you know, the connection that most people use on their phones 99% of the time, and you'll see different results depending on time, location, and best of all, LUCK. It's a joke of a test. I always hate when someone brings them up.

That said, the Nexus S is noticeably better. If you ever have the time get a hold of a Nexus S and EVO, then load a live wallpaper, Google Earth, Google Maps in 3D, and a game in both; if you don't see a difference, you should probably set aside some more time to get your vision checked.

The phones are better now, they will be better in the near future, and even better in the distant future. Just don't be disillusioned that the EVO is still completely on par performance wise. If he stills wants to get one, great; I hope he enjoys it. At least there are people informing him of the details.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toastcfh:
WARNING

please stay on topic and co not flame others. first and last warning
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the5ifty:
Are any developers going to make the move to the evo shift?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cluelessk:
I have the same question, the only thing stopping me from getting the shift is whether there will be devs on it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xlGmanlx:
it might not be that daunting since maybe a lot of the base is the same? personally i am waiting for the Evo2 or Evo HD with updated specs from HTC
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lawsonmh15:
Wow... "based on the gallery performace"??? What kernel are you using? Flash to a decent kernel and the gallery should be fine. Toast 7.6 BFS SNAP TURBO FTW!!! Getting 2500+ consistently in quadrant and 39+ in linpack.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fandroid213:
From what I've read it appears like the Evo Shift is going to have worse specs than the Evo. It is going to be only $150 on contract. Since the Evo is still $200 and the Epic $250 that implies that it won't be quite as good. It is also only $450 off contract as opposed to the Evo being $600 off contract at best buy. Also it is rumored that LG will be releasing a tegra 2 dual core phone very shortly with other companies probably soon to follow. I would either get an Evo or wait and see what is announced at CES.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swaze:
Yep, I agree. But I hear that there is a dual core coming for sprint this year, and they are waiting on quallcomm and their second gen snapdragon dual core to go with it. So you can forget any kind of poo poo from anyone talking about piss poor cpu/gpu combo. That should be an incredilbe phone....but prolly not till the summer.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xlGmanlx:
Right when I am eligible for my free upgrade
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JKingDev:
Just to throw in my 2c.

Been planning to switch to sprint in jan, eying the epic. I need hw kb. Then I learned of the shift. At first it seemed that it would have no FFC but now it seems that it will. The shift is now my top target.

My advice? As stated before dont wait for the latest and greatest. You will surely lose that game. If the shift is exactly what you want, get it.

The shift is perfect for me I like the size of it. With a nexus one right now, I think the screen size hits the mark. I do not want anything bigger to carry. I also have much more confidence in HTC than sammy. The shift is exactly what I have been looking for since I first switched from wimo to android.

As for the evo vs shift, there is no debate. Dont count mhz. The shift has a newer better faster snapdragon. Without considering overclocking (which I dont do anyway) the shift is faster. With OC the shift can roast the evo. The gpu is way more advanced on the shift. 45nm tech also means battery life should be superior on the shift assuming equally sized battery. So lets stop pretending the shift wont outperform the evo.

As for shift vs waiting, like I said if the shift is what you want, get it. You will have to wait months for the dual cores to come out. Perhaprs we will know more at CES so definitely wait for that before making a purchase. But still. Say a dual core device is release in two months (which is very optimistic timing). Who is to say it will have a kb? If you like the shift size, what if the new device is epic sized? What if the batt life sucks on first gen dual cores (lets stop comparing laptops; the bottom line is we dont know how real life performance will be). Bottom line is that there are too many variables to hold out for one feature.

Take it from someone who has been into pda phones sinces before pdas became phones (see my sig). Dont chase the future. The shift will be top of the line when released. If it has everything you want now, get it. Waiting for dual cores is not worth it. I dont upgrade just to have the latest and greatest. I upgrade to get the features I want. I had my X1 for nearly two years. It was a great device. I only left because I was sick of winmo. The shift will finally give me back everything I had with the X1 (plus a few modern additions ie ffc) with android.

Make the choice that suits your needs. Typed this with swype.. downright painful (as good as swype is). Cant wait to have a real kb again as I like doing real work with my device. Looking forward to CES and the release of the evo shift 4g. Cheers everyone! Happy holidays!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CCallahan:
If you can get by for a little bit I say wait for the newer phones. Possible dual core coming with better hardware that can better utilize newer versions of Android.

Also, if Sprint ends up moving to LTE later this year/sometime 2012 (Sprint has mentioned this because they know LTE is faster) then EVO might be out of luck getting on that network due to compatibilty (unless a mod is developed).

Just my 2 cents.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dirkyd3rk:
I got my evo at radio shack for 99.99 with no rebate because I gave them my hero for trade in. Best phone I've ever had hands down. Only paying 100 bucks for a great phone is awesome. I hear the evo shift will not have a front facing camera and lower speeds than the evo. I also have a t-mobile g2 that I'm not really stoked over but ill tell you what I noticed other day and was weirded out; since its a company phone I haven't rooted but I did a benchmark stock and it got 1552. I rooted my evo with cm6.1 default kernel and it gets 1465 benchmark scores. I had to scratch my head on that one.

"I shave my armpits cause it makes me aerodynamic when i fight"
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JKingDev:
Sprint might switch to LTE?? I had not heard that one. Will Google.. I actually just found out about the HTC merge (Verizon shift) that is also soon to be released and will have LTE. Perhaps I am switching to Verizon instead..

False. Shift will have FFC. False. Shift CPU is faster. Dont count MHz. Do your research. Shift has same CPU as G2.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CCallahan:
It was in an article I read in last few weeks about cell companies, marketing strategies, and 4G/3G differences. There were quotes from company execs about the future of their networks and a Sprint exec said they were looking at what direction to head in future and LTE is something being looked at.

If I can find it again I will link you to it. Granted, they didn't say exactly what technology would be adopted, but since LTE is faster than Clearwire's 4G they will have to do something to be competitive. The article also said that AT&T/T-Mobile are revamping their 3G networks to be faster than any existing 4G. Only good thing about 4G is the amount of frequencies available at that spectrum. 3G is packed.

So basically, Sprint will have to do something.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JKingDev:
Thanks. Some quick google research does show that while sprint has not exactly stated they will be LTE, it sounds like they are considering that direction.

Still, Verizon nation wide LTE by 2013 (they plan to have the entire 3G network covered by this time and begin to expand 4g to areas not yet covered today by 3g with 4g in 2014). And Verizon has SIM cards for 4G access. Since their LTE network is in the 700 MHz spectrum does this mean it will be open to unlocked 4G handsets? This is the whole reason I am on crappy ATT right now. Perhaps I would not have to let go of openness..
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Osin83:
Any Changes in THought?

Now that the Shift has been officially released by sprint and the full specs are out... (ie. No FFC) has anyone made any changes in their thinking? I've had an upgrade since november '10 but have been holding out. I like the size of the shift. Need to use the keyboard before I commit but otherwise I don't see Sprint announcing anything else for many months and I get my upgrades every 12 months for being a long time customer.

I love my rooted, overclocked and undervolted Hero running CM6, and I think the Shift is a nice follow up to it to hold me over till the next gen phones come out. I love the evo but it is slightly dated and I think the newer hardware on the shift is more suited to holding me over for 12 months. plus if what i've read as far as the overclocking potential of the shift's cpu holds true it should be easy to make it even faster pretty easily.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sekigah84:
The Evo still has better specifications compared to the Shift. 1 GHZ compared to 800. Its slimmer. Better camera on the Evo. The Shift is $50 cheaper. Personally if you really really want a phone like right now, I would say get the Evo. If you really want a hardware keyboard and aren't planning on going root crazy get a Shift.

I personally would wait for the dual core phones. But like all 1st gen phones, most will be riddled with a lot of issues. The Evo with the horrible battery life using 4G for one.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the5ifty:
Good god, do u read at all...the shift stock hits a 1600+ in quadrant and has a processor that has been clocked at 1800+MHz... a lot faster than the EVOs max stable OC...and the cam doesn't take as large pics but the clairity is equal or better w/ the shift...SOOOOOO MUCH INORANCE IN YOUR POST
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JKingDev:
The CPU on the shift is far superior. Period.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Osin83:
Aside from some of the other info in your post being inaccurate, why would you assume that there isn't going to be a good amount of dev support for the shift?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koendegr:
hi,

i think i have a problem....

i need to unstall hspl with my sd card,

is this poseble?

(my micro usb poort is broken :S )

Edit:

also i need a official rom ruu i think (dutch vodafone)

for sd card install
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Macelangelo77:
You can remove HSPL by flashing the offical ROM (from SD-card). It is explained here (at the end of step 2). There is a link in that thread to original ROM's, but I haven't found a dutch Vodafone ROM yet. Do you know which version ROM and RADIO came in it originally?

EDIT: Found it :) You can download it here.

Sincerely,

Mac
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koendegr:
thanks mate :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Macelangelo77:
You're welcome. Let me know how it worked out for you...

Sincerely,

Mac
[G Tablet General] marti766:
I dont have my gtablet yet, get it next tues, but does anyone know if it will read class 2 sdcards, meritline has this for cheap.

PQI 16GB Secure Digital High Capacity SDHC Card (Class 2), Model 6AEE-016GSR35A-13
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I have a Sandisk 32GB class 2, works fine. class 2/4/6/10 are the WRITE speeds. I believe read speeds are the same, if my info is correct.
[Desire General] madman_cro:
This is request for rom makers. Since i dont have much experience in rom making( i can only edit roms) i wondered if some dev here coud make nice hd rom without sense launcher, widgets and stufff. kinda hybrid rom. hd roms have nice menu, camera, gallery , contacts, but sense is slugish. there was one rom like this but its not updated anymore. with this request comess the poll so we can see if the people wants it
[Desire General] capychimp:
just install a hd rom and a different launcher and set it as default, and then you wont have to fill a dev section with those general questions

or ask the guy you say is the best ;)
[Desire General] madman_cro:
whell his rom is on my desire, but my wife preferes hd. oh and that sensles hd was popular , don't know why:rolleyes:
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
Flash robociks HD rom, overclock and use a different launcher and youre all set. :)
[Desire General] capychimp:
just put in a hd rom and change launcher for her, then your set man ;)
[Desire General] Nitin985:
There's a Rom called super villain Rom hd
[Desire General] madman_cro:
yeah but its not update anymore
[Desire General] mr.r9:
download baadnewz's rom. Download you're (or her's) preferred launcher, then using adb or root explorer or titanium backup remove Roise & any roise widget.

That's it I think.
[Desire General] Nitin985:
There should be one soon
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] matje90:
Hi all,

Does anyone have a tip for me to store my contacts. Because when I update my hd2 into android I guess I will lose all of my contacts right?

Thanks :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koendegr:
here is your tip ^^

http://superuser.com/questions/38753/how-do-i-transfer-numbers-contacts-from-windows-mobile-to-android
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wrecless:
All of my contacts are saved on Google and yours should be too. Just sign into your google account from your computer to confirm it and you can even edit them.

p.s. while on google you may have to select ADD STUFF then search for contacts and add it .
[Samsung Mesmerize] svetius:
Talk about accessories goes here!!
[Samsung Mesmerize] godofwar762:
they need to make a case tht looks like iphone case
[Samsung Mesmerize] vazdrae:
iPhone case? Cases like iPhone Cases? Or cases that make it look like an iPhone? No thank you. Though I am looking for a nice quality case for my mez...
[Samsung Mesmerize] Hakim Rahman:
I guess you can buy it at http://store.androidcentral.com/samsung-mesmerize-cases.htm
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demetan71:
Hi! I used 2.1 on my Bell Galaxy Vibrant since I buy it. I rooted it, and unrooted it, but now I try to update with Kies, and the window said: Update impossible on this device....

I would like to update with odin or any idea??:confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robbiev80:
Have you tried the registry hack? Search for it and try it out.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
see the big Step by Step sticky on the General section of I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rrralph:
i had the same problem. update to the latest version of kies and it worked. hope that helps.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demetan71:
Thank's

Thank's AllGamer that's what I'm looking for, original tar.

Work's fine!
[Samsung Mesmerize] svetius:
Themes and Apps for the Mesmerize chatter goes here!
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] explosivo98:
(I'm running CM 6.1)

I recently tried to use Titanium Backup to delete Gmail from my phone so I could install the new version (it kept giving me an error during installation), but when the phone reset to complete the uninstallation it gets stuck at a screen that shows an Android coming out of a box with a progress bar at the bottom. The bar fills up to about a quarter then flashes and restarts again. I can hit some buttons and this text comes up:

ClockworkMod Recovery v.2.5.0.1

Finding update package...

Opening update package..

Verifying update package..

Installing update..

(then it restarts)

This is preventing me from booting into recovery, or doing a hard reset, or anything really. It comes up right away when I start my phone up. Has anybody had any experience with this? Please tell me there's a way around this..

EDIT: ISSUE SOLVED!

This was pretty easy to get around, I wasn't too familiar with adb so it made it pretty difficult.

-Download a new recovery ROM if necessary

-Move the image to your android-sdk/platform-tools folder

-open up a command prompt, navigate to the platform-tools folder and enter the following code

adb push recovery-RA-heroc-v1.6.2.img /sdcard/
adb flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery-RA-hero-v1.6.2.img
adb reboot recovery

-Then when that reboots your phone it should put you back into the recovery ROM and from there you can access your phone as usual.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baldwin69:
i had a problem similar to this when trying to upgrade to a froyo rom (it wasn't a boot loop, but the progress bar would get about halfway and then freeze). i started the phone and held 'home' and 'back' and selected 'clear data' and then was able to reinstall. i see a lot around here that people have problems if their battery is too low as well...so if you're under 30% you might try charging and trying again
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] explosivo98:
The problem is that I can't do anything when it boots up because it goes right to this progress bar screen, holding Home+back then Power doesn't do anything, same with any other button combination. Also the battery's at 100%, I charged it overnight to see if that was the problem but it didn't help.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andythegreenguy:
Remove the battery, put it back in, hold down the home button when you start the phone - that should take you into recovery.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] explosivo98:
It doesn't though, when I say nothing works I mean nothing works. I've booted into recovery many times before but now this screen comes up every time I start it regardless of what button combination I try.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andythegreenguy:
Then your only option would be to RUU and re-root. Have you tried that?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] explosivo98:
I just tried, but my phone is basically in a vegetative state right now, my computer doesn't recognize it when it's plugged in because of this loading screen thing that keeps repeating. I was thinking about getting a new phone for Christmas, maybe this is a sign :(
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] il Duce:
assuming that the power light comes on when you have it plugged in, you should be able to get it going. boot into fastboot (vol down and power) and then you should be able to either get to recovery, or push adb commands from there to get it working again. I have never had to do this, but I have seen others report victory after using these methods. here are 2 threads about adb

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=690362

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=532719

good luck