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[Nexus S General] mrroey:
lol why are you even on this thread? obviously no one agrees with you here and theres no point trying to make it seem like the g2 is better than the nexus s. because obviously if it was, you wouldnt feel the need to justify your device to us.

You and the mytouch4g can go have yourselves a little hspa+ party cuz quite honestly no one here gives a **** HAHA
[Nexus S General] BlackOtaku:
The G2 is a nice phone. So is the NS.

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[Nexus S General] ryude:
Colors are oversaturated on the Nexus S, but that's preference really. Blacks are definitely blacker and contrast seems best as well as a higher DPI. The only real drawback is lack of brightness which has already been said.
[Nexus S General] Reefermattness:
Us galaxy s users have been saying that for months now but nobody wanted to listen. To the G2 owner, 40 million triangles per second vs 95 million, and samoled vs LCD there is NO comparison.
[Nexus S General] ryude:
It's 90 million triangles per second on my captivate. Did the Nexus S get an updated GPU?

Here is a GPU comparison for some of the leading smartphones:

Motorola Droid: TI OMAP3430 with PowerVR SGX530 = 7-14 million(?) triangles/sec

Nexus One: Qualcomm QSD8x50 with Adreno 200 = 22 million triangles/sec

iPhone 3G S: 600 MHz Cortex-A8 with PowerVR SGX535 = 28.7 million triangles/sec

Samsung Galaxy S: S5PC110 with PowerVR SGX540 = 90 million triangles/sec

And for comparison a few consoles:

PS3: 250 million triangles/sec

Xbox 360: 500 million triangles/sec
[Nexus S General] kertong:
Can't we all just get along, and own BOTH the G2 and NS? :)

I have both, and both phones are awesome. I originally intended to sell the G2 after I got my NS, but I couldn't let go of the G2's solid body feel and keyboard, and that satisfying "thup" of the screen as it hinges open...

So, the g2/ns are going to have to learn to live together now :D
[Nexus S General] KeithRVA:
I'm on this board getting feedback about the NS to decide if I should buy one. Yeah, I have more than one phone, imagine that. Hey, you can come to the hspa+ party too, just use gps to find it, IF you can get that working. HA
[Nexus S General] TheBiles:
My GPS works flawlessly. Thanks for the directions. :)
[Nexus S General] KeithRVA:
NP, bring some gingerbread
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] exero2:
hi everyone, as the booting problem happened on me(on other user as well), it's there anyway to remove the green loge with black/white background screen? because i wanna see those commands, i think they will shows me the error. thank you:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] exero2:
no one reply???:confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bates_1974:
Not to sure but use an old init.grd I think it is? Don't quote me!!!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] exero2:
oh, thx, i'll try, any other way??:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] exero2:
???it not workin,,
[Streak 5 General] phebas:
My Streak is an O2 model. I received the O2 notification yesterday that the promised 2.2 update was available. This I downloaded and installed.

Now I have a permanent view of the Millenium dome and no functionality.

How do I rectify this -please?
[Streak 5 General] lufc:
Have you pulled the battery out and tried switiching it back on and if it gets stuck again go into recovery and do a factory reset
[Streak 5 General] phebas:
hi,

tried the factory reset, still end up with the Millienum Dome, nothing further.

Anything else I can try?
[Streak 5 General] twe69:
I sometimes get just the millenium dome picture in v2.1. To fix it I press and hold the power button and when the power off menu option appears it seems to then display all of the desktop icons so then I just press the back button. Bit weird as it did not do this before and only in the past month, possibly a program I might have installed.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KBizzle:
So I have a quick question about wired tether. For those of you that use it, does yours keep a steady download rate? Mine fluctuates anywhere from 15kb up to 1.0mb but doesnt stay at one speed consistently. I dont have cable so I watch alot of hulu videos but the fluctuation causes it to stop the video randomly. I have full bars of signal so I dont see why it cant keep a constant speed. Any advice would be appreciated.

Edit: Now im noticing that it completely drops the speed to zero and then back up. This is happening at the same time to the upload speed.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Twolazyg:
Does your PC have a wireless card? If so, get Wireless Tether, I use it and it works great for me. I haven't tried streaming any movies while using it, but I would imagine it would be good. You could also try PdaNet. I think the latter is slower, but I just use my regular internet when I'm at home. Hope this helps
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KBizzle:
Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, I have found that wireless tether seems to run slower than the wired tether. I think it may be rom related cause it works better on some roms then others.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] runngwlf:
I use wired tether everyday, for both it's speed and the fact it doesnt turn my phone into a small battery powered heater like wifi tether does. I have noticed fluctuations in download rates, and it seems to occur more often with streaming than it does with a straight download. It is somewhat normal for a phone's signal to fluctuate some even if you have full signal bars. When I watch youtube or hulu I simply turn the quality down. It caches faster this way and thus is not as affected by the drops in speed.
[Galaxy Tab General] lucboucim:
For those of you who have the phone enabled on their TAB. Try the following key sequence on the phone keyboard:

*#*#info#*#*

It would be interesting to collect other known codes like this in this thread
[Galaxy Tab General] lucboucim:
Another one is *#*#1234#*#*
[Galaxy Tab General] toxicool:
galaxy tab code

full reset *2767*3855#

firmware info *#1234#

sim & net locked or not *#7465625#

full test, lcd,sensor, etc *#0*#

IME *#06#

have fun :)
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Ok, dont start any fights or anything, this is just my opinion.

The only reason the American Galaxy S phones don't have froyo yet is because they were working on a 2.2 build, then 2.2 was found to have security problems that all phones with 2.2 have. So Google fixes it and makes the update 2.2.1 ,which means Samsung had to trash the 2.2 froyo they were working on and had to start from scratch on the 2.2.1 update we will be receiving. I hope this makes sense.

Sent from The Chaotic Void.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
They did have to ditch most of what was done on 2.2,but there were still issues,so that was not the exact reason.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
2.2.1 is THAT different from 2.2 that they couldn't just patch 2.2? I have trouble believing that.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I understand that it isn't the only reason they had to start over. But we originally would've gotten 2.2 in Oct or Nov.

Sent from The Chaotic Void.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Yea, all I am saying is that it doesn't take 2 months to patch 2.2 to 2.2.1. There has to be something else that caused the delay as well.
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
It was an issue with the phnes adb. There's no way they trashed anything. Patches are easy to apply to code. Litterally a few mouse clicks. And not only that but dif all the files and pull in the differences, would take a 5 year old a few hours at most.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Ok. Thanks for all the replies. Im glad this is being used for people to express their opinions about this problem.

Sent from The Chaotic Void.
[Vibrant General] deeznart:
+1
[Vibrant General] stealthj:
some could argue it will run better than custom 2.2? but whos complaining :D

hack away!
[Vibrant General] YatimaMeiji:
I've gone back to stock as custom roms will always have a bug or two, and more so when they are based off of a leaked rom(and there have been more then one for 2.2). I'm waiting till an official update is released before I try custom roms again.
[Vibrant General] falafelfro:
Odin and Rom Manager are great, and I have enjoyed geeking away my time with roms on XDA. However:

1. Not everyone has time to waste exploring a bunch of roms to see which are stable.

2. Samsung probably appreciates XDA because it takes the pressure off of them:. The most savvy consumers are placated by the ability to get Froyo on their own.

Imagine Toyota never releasing a recall on their automobiles after the safety scandals, and that instead people on YouTube taught people how to fix the cars themselves in the garage. Sure, mechanically inclined folks would jump at the opportunity, and perhaps say, don't be mad at Toyota, fix it yourselves! Toyota would probably like the "DIY" trend among their customers.

Sure, we should take action and get Froyo ourselves, but that should not lessen our anger at Samsung/T-Mobile.
[Vibrant General] quadratic:
One very good reason to complain about the lack of an official 2.2 release is that Samsung won't release source until that's out. If we had source, we would have had CM6 or a true AOSP build by now.
[Vibrant General] kusotare:
And now we have the source for 2.3 AND the Nexus S kernel source. I'd put my money on seeing that kernel working on the vibrant in short order and full AOSP gingerbread roms not long after.
[Vibrant General] anthonys2r:
Samsung Software department is a joke, 2.3 is out and sammys latest and greatest phone still runs software from over a year ago
[Vibrant General] Yellow C6:
GPS is still borked on all roms. Is it usable? Somewhat. But I wouldn't trust it if my life depended on it. Samsung fixed the initial lock issue. It locks fine with 10-12 sat locked with maybe 5m error. The problem is when you use it for navigation. The GPS will lose the lock repeatedly and randomly jump. This after Odin to stock JFD and then Odin to newest JL4. I used Samsung GPSrestore app to reset the GPS settings. I tried about every leaked and custom roms since the release of this phone. GPS is still crappy. GPS Status app showing sat lock doesn't mean it's fixed.
[Vibrant General] t1n0m3n:
*Every* custom 2.2 rom has "issues" that will be solved once the official 2.2 is released.
[Vibrant General] Plato56:
First, Thank god this is not a safety issue like the Toyota stuff, lol.

As far as the source being released, true, but we must concider the fact, as im sure they have, that we are geting the gingerbread source. If that ports, then its going to more than make up for CM6 or AOSP 2.2 IMHO....

For those of you who posted that your going to stick with the stock roms, there is not a thing wrong with that. Great thing is your not the type that complains. You know what it takes to debug this stuff and have tried the custom roms. For me, Macnut final was less buggy that JI6. Im a happy camper. You tried them and made an informed, educated decission and didn't just get on a soap box with a megaphone and gripe.

This is what im talking about, choices. We are lucky enough to have choices here and options when it comes to our software. For all the complaining we do, many other phone owners dont have those options.

As for "evey bug that is in the Roms will be fixed in 2.2 offical" I hope your right, but it takes time to debug and people who say "I WANT IT NOW!!!!< YOU PROMISED!!! WAAAAAA". They need to realize if it was put out NOW it would have the exact same bugs as the roms. As you might note, the bugs in the roms are geting fewer and fewer. Once they are all gone, the BAM!!! Offical release. But in the mean time, we shoud be gratefull for what we have, and what we have comming, namely Gingerbread..

I dont want to get into the GPS issue in this thread. Software is never going to be the compleate fix, i've already stated this elsewhere. I still beleave its mostly due to a bad connection to the antenna. When I fixed that on mine, it solved 95 percent if my gps issues, and updated modems fixed the rest. The GPS may be one place a Vibrant owner truely has some ground to complain, but Im strictly talking about people who complain about the 2.2 update here.
[Vibrant General] Steeltippin:
Please tell you me you do not think official stock releases are perfect lol? Look at the GPS issues 2.1 had when the Vibrant was released. ODIN and custom ROMS are my best friends lol
[Vibrant General] RobBull69:
+1 to be completely honest, i'd be content getting the froyo source from Sammy and getting the JIT improvements ported over. GB doesn't excite me as much as froyo did when it was new. I just like the idea of AOSP and JIT improvements.

Sent from my frozen yogurt powered Vibrant
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
yeah, my favorite is people saying samsung software devs suck cause we don't have froyo and tw sucks and blah blah blah blah, then complain they don't have an 'official' 2.2 when that 'official' 2.2 would have been released by those same samsung devs that suck and some/most of the 'unofficial' 2.2 roms we have are created by good/competent devs. but they aren't 'official'. lol.
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
If you are still having GPS problems after trying all the fixes and ROMs than ytou may have a hardware issue requiring a replacement.
[Vibrant General] ikevinnyii:
ive flashed many roms and at first I thought it was the best thing ever till I started to see bugs and problems with mms or mounting issues and then came the fixes and I was like ok its fixed but theres some problems that didnt get fixed like the mic input volume is low when recording a video on a leaked 2.2 rom i confirmed it by going back to JI6, then I noticed my haptic feedback was messed up and i would get weak glitchy vibrations overall. GPS was never an issue for me and the roms with "improved/fixed gps" made it worse or didnt change at all. So as of now im done flashing and waiting for the OTA update.
[Vibrant General] YatimaMeiji:
GPS does work, and thats because I'm running UVJI6(the Tmo Official 2.1 updated rom).
[Vibrant General] Yellow C6:
Let's see. My Vibrant has the same problem. My wife's Vibrant has the same problem. Two of my friends have Vibrants and they have the same problem. One did a replacement exchange and that has the same problem. 5 out of 5 different Vibrants have the same problem. You really think exchanging is going to solve this issue? I refuse to believe any Vibrant owner has a perfect working gps. It might be borderline usable but it's still ****ty GPS compared to other phones.

Froyo I can hack. 100% working GPS is another matter.
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
it's because when the official is out the devs will release a better custom roms!
[Vibrant General] YatimaMeiji:
As I've said, gps works perfectly in mine and I'm able to use it for navigation. I would say 1) if they are stock, are they running the update? 2) check serial numbers, if they are close enough, could have been part of a bad batch. I'm not trying to make excuses, but just suggestions. There are those who would say just flash a custom rom, but I know that isn't for everyone. I say try to exhaust every option you have with Tmo, but if thing still dont work out, i would recommend the EECB(Electronic Executive Carpet Bomb). I've had results in getting corporations to help me out with this(Tmo and Chase). Basically you send a mass email to every executive you can get a hold of. But I would only use this as a last resort as you can use your previous attempts with the regular customer service as evidence in any argument you make in the email, just make sure its a polite one. Ones full of flame and hate tend to not work.

And thats what I'm waiting for, and official base from which the devs will work from. But thats not to say there still wont be bugs, I've never met a perfect rom, simply good enough.
[Vibrant General] mrxela:
Ever since G1 days, when I look for a new phone, i don't look by carrier or manufacturer, i look by what the community supports. But i do the same with a lot of other hardware as well.

Just as WRT/Tomato will always be better than stock for networking gear, Android open source community a.k.a Team Whiskey, Cyanogen, Eugene WILL ALWAYS be better than carrier/OEM shovelware because they have different goals.

OTA? Thanks, but no thanks.
[Vibrant General] Smokexz:
Maybe because not everybody is a power user like you? There are some people who actually have no clue how to root a device.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
more than likely those people don't care or know the difference if it's 2.1 or 2.2 or 2.3.
[Vibrant General] Plato56:
Thats exactly what I think.
[Vibrant General] r3skyline:
+1 for this one.

this is the reason why im waiting patiently. :D
[Vibrant General] Damonkashu:
I won't complain about 2.2, but can I complain about 2.3? :X
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
i don't think that the official froyo won't have any issues.
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
Some people are on the SAFE SIDE, even though i know using custom roms won't do anything bad, some people like the OFFICIAL thing. not some leaked crap with bunch of bugs.

I used to think the same, but i gave it a try and havent and probably wont ever go back.
[Vibrant General] tjhart85:
ALL of the 2.2 ROMs (besides the beta Cyanogenmod port) are based on leaks.

These leaks were not fully completely and are not fully optimized yet. You can tell this because things like WiFi calling aren't working 100% stable yet.

Not to mention you void your warranty by flashing one of them (I don't have a problem with this, but a lot of people do). You can make the argument that if you flash back to stock they'll never know, but the fact of the matter is that you DID already void your warranty, whether they find out or not.

There is also the fact that Samsung made an official statement saying that they'd be supporting froyo on these phones. We want them to actually do it.

Why is this so wrong.

Yes, I like my Axura ROM and before that I was using the TeamWhiskey stuff, but they're base is flawed. Wouldn't you prefer them to work with a STABLE base rather than the beta leaks that they're currently using?
[Vibrant General] r3skyline:
thats not what the quote is saying tho (imo).

every custom rom has issues, the developers cant quite fix them, but im sure that once the official is released, itll help tremendously to fix these issues that custom roms have.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
Agreed, I had 2.2 stock on nexus and these customs are just as good...
[Vibrant General] masterotaku:
I redacted most of the post, great though it was. The real issue is that out of some 4 million or so people in the U.S. sporting Galaxy S devices, a few thousand perhaps have the basic computing skills needed to deal with a place like this and what it offers.

That leaves 3.9 million or so with varying degrees of satisfaction and dissatisfaction, and unnecessarily so. Granted let's not be dumping on Samsung alone about this. Motorola, HTC, LG, Dell, Sony....very few companies are getting the whole concept of updates and timely right (at least not in the same sentence).

The fact that we have an open platform and a vibrant (pun intended) development community makes up for this for us. Though imagine what it'd be like if we had really good firmware to start with?

I got into Android precisely because I want to tinker. If I didn't I would have probably ended up an iPhone user. At the end of the day these are still smartphones and you just want them to work and do what you need them to do.

Granted, I think the whole "lets sue" threads are naive and a colossal waste of time too. After all it doesn't take much in the way of basic consumer research to see that Android phones and updates are rarely occurring in a timely fashion at all in this universe regardless of who makes them. It's not difficult to make your provider swap out a phone within it's return period, and if you haven't figured out you don't like it within two weeks you have issues to start with.

Still, it isn't unreasonable to expect a device you dropped a few hundred bucks on to work properly and be properly supported, whether XDA exists or not.
[Vibrant General] Plato56:
masterotaku, I agree with you, but then the question becomes what is properly supported? Are they doing a better job than HTC, Motorola etc... Are we to use that as a base of compairison? Does the fact that the Nexus 1 , droid or what ever smart phone you name had a 2.2 six months ago make them better supported? How well is that version 2.2 working? Are they bug free from the date of release? Are they LESS buggy than the leaked ROMs we have been gettting.

If you stop to think, a company that won't release software "until its done" is a company that realy cares about its customer base. Not only that, but they dont complain about the leaks for the enthusist crowd. When they do release this software, it will be working correctly.

A bad company says "just give em what you got, were not going to answer the phone anyway when they call for support"

A good company says, "listen guys, we better get this right the first time, becuse its going to be us that are going to be staying late when 3.4 million people call for support"..... To me , Samsung is somewhere in the middle here.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Which is why I can care less about custom 2.2 ROMs, and want an official OTA update.

I don't have any stringent requirements. As long as the Lag isn't as bad, the GPS/Compass is marginally better, and I can stop carrying my laptop around because I trusted Samsung/T-Mobile and thought the 2.2 update would be out months ago... (Yes, Flash is a requirement for me and the only FroYo phone out when I got this one was... the N1, and I kind of like having a non-trivial amount of storage IN THE PHONE - not to mention HD recording was also a requirement (at 30 FPS), and I don't even know if the overpriced N1 can do that).

I simply just need FroYo. Nothing fancy. Just an official 2.2 ROM for the device. Some of us use their phone for work, and I don't have time to wait another 2 weeks for a replacement using a dumbphone if something should happen trying to hack this one.

Now people are saying Gingerbread is coming for the Galaxy S in Feb 2011, and we don't even have FroYo.

Even HTC is rolling out FroYo to Arias in Korea (and probably here) soon. It's simply embarassing that this uber-high-end Android phone is stuck on Eclair, when Samsung duped us into buying them by giving us timetable after timetable for an update - and now they can't open their mouths and own up to it.

I think the crying has died down quite a bit compared to the September/October timeframe, personally.

But I also think lots of people have sold/returned their phones and gone with something else, as well (G2s, MyTouches, HD7s, etc.)
[Vibrant General] Emama:
why cant I complain about the lack of 2.2?

It is their job to update the phone, not the user.

Not everyone has the time and knowledge to update themselves.

And the custom roms are not perfect, why should I bother trying different roms and testing it myself?
[Vibrant General] Kwaii49:
I completely agree. I love modifyng my phone. But @plato56, lets get real we all have a friend or two that don't know squat about roms and modems. I still see the vibrant as a great phone. Don't make it out to be so easy. We just happen to be more computer Savy, some way more than others(devs: I love you guys :-) ). But that doesn't mean everyone else is.
[Vibrant General] richan90:
You sure? The i9000 source has been out for ages, yet there's still major glitches in using it for the Vibrant, including terrible battery life.