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[Desire HD General] alain57:
i'm a bit bit lost with all these radio s-off, eng s-off, ship s-off supercid ....

my device tell me

ACE PVT ENG S-OFF

HBOOT-0.85.2007 (PD9810000)

CID - 11111111

is flashing the radio dangerous in my case, or did i already done every needed stepps to have possibility to come back ?

can someone explain the things clearly (not every one understand technical english ... a lot of users here are from other countries)

just tell me if i'm wrong

radio S-OFF means that the device is S-OFF (ENG or SHIP) ?

or is radio S-OFF the fact that i set the CID value to 11111111 ??

what is the difference between SHIP S-OFF and ENG S-OFF ? (is SHIP the stock version, and ENG the modified version i installed once ? )

sorry if i had to ask, but i wish to understand the difference and with all these terms i'm a bit lost...
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
Ship S Off is Radio S Off. If your CID is 11111111 means that you ran the Radio S Off tool already and you have Radio S Off. But since your bootloader shows that you have Eng S Off, means that you ran both the One Click S Off and the Radio S Off, correct?
[Desire HD General] wingho29:
Cannot flash radio

Hello,

First of all, I "S-off" my DHD by Visionary. After that, I tried to flash the radio to 26.04.02.17. However, my terminal display the below message after i ran the cmd "fastboot flash radio radio.img"

C:\android\sdk\tools>fastboot flash radio radio.img

sending 'radio' (24832 KB)... OKAY

writing 'radio'... FAILED (remote: not allowed)

How could I solve this problem? Many thanks!
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
You can not have S-off by Visionary. It's only for root. S-Off is different. Follow my signature links to find out more.
[Desire HD General] wingho29:
Sorry that made you misunderstand. I've got S-OFF with "One click radio tool". i followed all instruction of the teaching post but i got that message when i want to flash radio. Please help, many thanks !
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
What do you see in your boot menu is it Ship S-Off or ENG S-Off.

ENG S-Off is strongly recommended for radio flashing for downgrading. Make sure you have ENG S-Off before flashing radio.
[Desire HD General] mtaa:
I recently rooted my DHD and flashed the latest version of the Android Revolution HD.

By successfully completing the above processes dDoes this mean I have the latest "radio" version or do I need to update that separately?
[Desire HD General] nandihno:
Installing the revolution rom or any rom by that mater does not mean you have a new radio.

To check you have new radio go to your settings then info bout ur device then baseband and see what you have.

I you flashed a custom rom it means..

You have must have had root.

You must have had eng s off (allows unsigned roms to be loaded)

Also you must had installed clockwork mod recovery (custom recovery to easily install roms)

Because you have eng s off to flash a new radio you need to turn off nd then on your phone and make sure your phone boots into boot loader

Connect ur phone via USB make sure adb can detect jut do adb devices and see if you get a serial number from adb on your computer console.

Then use fast boot to flash the radio img

Then reboot your phone into boot loader and make sure you can see new radio version .that's basically the process. Bu remember you must have eng s off.
[Desire HD General] wingho29:
I did the stupid thing. I forgot to use "ONE click S-OFF" before i used "One click radio S-OFF" (which mean i haven't got any ENG S-OFF before)

Now, i got the ENG S-OFF and flash new radio to my DHD successfully. Thanks, eozen81 !!:):D
[Desire HD General] BumAround:
Did you flash the RIL as well, Davor? Well, looks like the latest 26.13 is a goner.
[Desire HD General] pockobg:
What ROM did you use? I was on RCMix3d VoidU v1.0 and i thought the battery would last forever :) 3 hours of using WiFi + 20min navi + 10 min calls + 2 hours stand by and that from 75% ->15%
[Desire HD General] LorD ClockaN:
CM7 offcourse!

Ril is HM so it's for sense. I always use only 1003g ril

Will test the radio again. MichelID had some good opinions on this radio. Well at least regarding battery life

Sent from Desire HD with CyanogenLordMod!!!
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Regarding my battery life, so far so good... But I will need to test more
[Desire HD General] peste76:
Yeah, but i had similar Problems. It wasn´t at least only the battery. The signal was weaker - no 3G available where it was before the flash. I wish i could say this radio would be good in my opinion, but it is not.
[Desire HD General] a user:
i have no issues with this radio on my rom. though i think battery was slightly better on the previous one (26.11...). but am not 100% sure about this. but no uncommon drains observed here.
[Desire HD General] Desi130312:
when i tried flashing the newest radio ( 26.13.04.19 ) it didnt work. It started to scan but once it said "Parsing..." nothin happened. It just stopped and I never got the prompt to update.:( I named it PD98IMG and checked the MD5 checksum and it still didnt work.Any idea what could be going wrong?
[Desire HD General] juannicolas:
Just download it and same thing happened to me.
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Are you guys flashing the Radio via fastboot with Eng HBoot and S-OFF?
[Desire HD General] geraldf80:
The new radio is great.. never had this kind of signal or battery consumption.. at 50% after 20+ hours on standby.. amazing.. lol but seriously.. best radio I have ever used..
[Desire HD General] a user:
after nearly two days now i must same battery is as good as on previous radio. so i think i'll keep that one now as signal seems to be a bit better (but could also be only my imagination ;) ):
[Desire HD General] juannicolas:
I think that is the only way or am i wrong?
[Desire HD General] braby:
EDIT:

Sorry...downloaded Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M, but was looking at MD5 from Radio_12.48.60.23U_26.08.04.07_M3...

OOPS! :)
[Desire HD General] a user:
The md5 is for the image time in the zip and not for the zip
[Desire HD General] Desi130312:
yes, yes, and yes
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Yup... That's weird tho; every other radio flashes correctly on your device? In this case you might try to redownload the zip archive and retry...
[Desire HD General] leith51:
Are you trying to flash it via adb fastboot or have you put it on your SD card after renaming it ???
[Desire HD General] Desi130312:
I've downloaded it but i am going to rename "PD98IMG.zip" after I put it in my SD card. Then ,hopefully, it'll work
[Desire HD General] juannicolas:
Well I only try it downloading it to my sdcard and renaming it. Haven't try pushing it with adb. And also, I have downloaded the file more than 5 times from all different download links and same thing.
[Desire HD General] Desi130312:
Ive tried it from many links too and it wont work:confused:
[Desire HD General] I'm TheQuest:
Hi juannicolas and Desi130312

Just flashed Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M.img from the zip in first post of this thread.

Using adb command from the Radio flash supplied by leith51, never ever seems to fail, I have use it to flash Radio, Recovery and Splash.img's.

Take Care

TheQuest :cool:
[Desire HD General] cplusplus:
from 26.13.04.19, i was got bad signal and network speed:mad::mad:
[Desire HD General] Leechoonhwee:
-Download speed and upload speed is slower than 11.04.21M by some margin. Testing from Asia running on MIUI. :-)
[Desire HD General] Desi130312:
I've tried that way by leith51 but it ends up saying REMOTE NOT ALLOWED (which means you dont have ENG S-OFF) but I do have ENG S-OFF. I will try it again , hopefully it works...
[Desire HD General] leith51:
Have you got radio s- off? does it actually say Eng s-off in the bootloader screen at the top? If I got a quid for The amount of people that swear they got Eng s-off then actually go look in bootloader and find it says ship s-off I would have at least 10 quid so dude double check it
[Desire HD General] Andy:
I wrote a small batch script that will guide you through the radio flashing process.

Its quite simple to follow & will perform all the operations for you.

All you need to do is choose a radio.

Radio Flasher
[Desire HD General] Aust S5:
Fastest ever speed test results for me since new radio + ril flashed

sent from my DHD RCMix3d, whichever is the latest
[Desire HD General] abZorber:
With the latest radio i noticed the best battery drain (from 2 to 5 mA in stand-by with sync, data and wifi off).

12.54 radio had 3-6 mA minimum.

Also drainage with GPRS data on seems to be lesser, but 3G drainage on the same level that was previous.

But speed of web serfing decreased noticable. So data transferring is not so good.

Signal strength is similar to 12.54
[Desire HD General] Kapetan:
Anyone tried latest radio with 2.2.0018G RIL ?
[Desire HD General] juannicolas:
Thank you, already done it.
[Desire HD General] shubu000:
Anyone tried the latest radio on the Australian Optus network, i just changed plans and i got a couple of dropouts after changing network..

thanks in advance
[Desire HD General] juannicolas:
Yes they do flash with no problems, this is the only one giving me issues to install, tried with adb and miving pd98img.zip into sdcard and booting to hboot.
[Desire HD General] liridonb:
THank you so much, It works, I dont know why I need to S-OFF again, because I have done it one time before.
[Desire HD General] MatriarchRaszagal:
Flashed radio and RIL without a problem. Have to say I love it. Beside when stupid dialer decides to not close (100% to 0% in 22 hours while not being used) I get great mileage out of it. Last charge lasted 1d 23h after having watched 5 episodes of scrubs, listened to music for 45 min (both via BT headset), sent like 10 sms and used wifi to read this forum with the xda app for another good 45 min to an hour.

The "fun" thing is that I don't really used my phone to call sine I got a phone from work which I am allowed to use for personal calls as well. However, compared to the 11_M2 I feel I have better reception (except in my apartment which I sometimes wonder if it's a bunker) and faster mobile network.
[Desire HD General] 1Khronos:
Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M works fine for me. Improved download speed a bit too.
[Desire HD General] AtypicalWinter:
A question for any cynagen mod users (as the first post is confusing) about flashing radio rill to cm7.

Can I flash the corresponding rill for my radio to cm7. As I'm going to give cm7 more time than a few hours to see what I think.

Or shall I just leave it be and get on with it?
[Desire HD General] sigurd_LU:
CM has the following RIL included: 2.2.0018G. The G at the end is the important thing, the HM RIL's that are used in Sense Roms don't work with CyanogenMod (you loose connection all the time etc). So just leave the RIL as it is ;)
[Desire HD General] AtypicalWinter:
Thank you very much. Am using the latest 3rd Sept radio and really like it i didn't want to be half assing about changing my radio that's all. And just needed more information. :-)

Edit

BTW what does the g mean anyway?
[Desire HD General] sigurd_LU:
You're welcome. But I don't know what the G stands for^^
[Desire HD General] Karish1989:
Check this site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
"G" is the code used to mark RILs that could be used with AOSP-based ROMs on HTC devices. HM is the code used to mark RILs for Sense ROMs
[Desire HD General] AtypicalWinter:
Ah right so it just means that it's 3g ready then?

And the rill included with cm7 is a universal rill?
[Desire HD General] AtypicalWinter:
Thanks that's what I wanted to know :-)
[Desire HD General] Lazarus65:
The sooner I get a reply the better. I just recently started to learn about custom ROMS and stuff. But I'm a quick learner so I've been doing well on installing new ROMS. But now I need to learn how to flash a radio. I've found 3 different methods. Would I bet stupid to try the "quick flash package"? Or should I just try the "one click eng s-off" method? With the exception of the quick flash package they seem rather difficult. But my real question is, if I switched the radio.img in the quick flash package with another radio.img, will that raise my percentage rate of bricking my phone? Or has that been tested and worked? I'm using CoreDroid v8.1 and would like to use the recommended radio. Any help will be appreciated. :)
[Desire HD General] P00t:
The latest radio that ends with. 19 doesn't work on miui. When I flash the ril, I lose my service. When its unmatching, it works. Idk what's wrong.
[Desire HD General] eliashadow:
Miui rom doesnt support RIL in any radio and not needed.

And latest one working very good in latest miui FYI...;)
[Desire HD General] Andy:
I wrote a simple command line front end that will flash a radio for you.

All you need to do is check the MD5, which is also in the tool.

The tool is in my Sig or HERE
[Desire HD General] Lazarus65:
Will it work if my phone doesn't have Eng s-off? Because that's the main thing stopping me from flashing a new radio.
[Desire HD General] Andy:
No, you need to have an Engineering H-Boot (ENG S-OFF) to utilise fastboot commands.
[Desire HD General] Lazarus65:
Is there a reliable way to get Eng s-off? I've tried to use VISONary but it when I "attempt to permroot now" my phone doesn't reboot likes it's supposed to. I don't know what else to try.
[Desire HD General] Andy:
Visionary+ is for root. For ENG S-OFF you will need the One Click ENG S-OFF Tool by jkoljo.
[Desire HD General] Lazarus65:
In the directions for ENG S-OFF it says:

"Install Visionary

Open Visionary and tap temproot, then attempt permroot now. Your device will reboot.

Connect your phone to a computer (make sure you have USB Debugging enabled. Connect charge only!)

Open my "Desire HD easy s-off.exe", click "S-OFF it"! Allow possible SuperUser request on your phone.

There could be force closes after the process, just reboot and everything will be fine."

I can just skip installing Visionary+ and go right to running the .exe?
[Desire HD General] Andy:
Are you already rooted?

What HTC Firmware are you currently using?
[Desire HD General] Lazarus65:
Yeah. I'm using ClearDroid v8.1.
[Desire HD General] Andy:
If your already rooted you don't need to run Visionary+.

Just run the tool, if it gives you jip you may need to downgrade to 1.32 and start again. Just make a backup before hand then you can quickly restore back once done.
[Desire HD General] Lazarus65:
Ohhh! Thanks! Then I just run the QFP to flash a radio?
[Desire HD General] Andy:
What is QFP? Once you have access to fastboot you can use most, if not all, tools to flash radios.

EDIT: Missed a few words.
[Desire HD General] Lazarus65:
The quick flash package on the second post. :)
[Desire HD General] Andy:
I see, I missed that. Yeah the QFP will work once you have ENG S-OFF. The tool I wrote will work also, it includes an MD5 checker too.
[Desire HD General] Lazarus65:
Sweet! I'll use yours since it seems easier. :)
[Desire HD General] leith51:
And the guide I wrote works perfect to
[Desire HD General] Andy:
Yeah, leith's guide works perfect too.
[Desire HD General] :
Just as a quick heads up, I live in Bristol, UK, and ran the latest and previous radios, on O2. Terrible battery life and weaker signal. Not recommended. Internet access is the problem, GSM signal is fine.

Back on my previous radio (see sig) and all is good, I can leave work at 5pm with 80% battery left, Twitter, FB, Gmail, Weather, and more syncing via HSDPA. So...couldn't be happier in that regard.
[Desire HD General] TDQuiksilver:
Anyone have the latest radio packaged as a P98IMG.ZIP?
[Desire HD General] librarian85:
Hi all wise smartphone-guru's! I'll start with the usuall: I'm really not good at this, and I probably shouldn't be playing with my smartphone, but it's really fun! When it works that is, and then I come running here.

I'm running ARHD6 on my Desire HD, and I flashed the radio they recomended (12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M ). Now I'm lucky if I get a lock on the gps after 5 minutes, and I can't find my bluetooth handsfree (supertooth buddy). Bluetooth connections are my biggest concerne, since I'm driving alot.

I'm in Norway, if that has anything to say.

I hope someone can help me with this, before my wife hits me over the head for screwing up my phone:p
[Desire HD General] leith51:
Try flashing the 26.09.04.11 radio and ril as the above one has not been confirmed as 100% ok for all users
[Desire HD General] librarian85:
Thanks, I will try that!
[Desire HD General] Neo XL:
Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and RIL_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M - Topp Results

I ´ve tested now for a few days the latest Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M RIL and matching it, unfortunately, still relatively poor reception and sometimes hangs and crashes. Now I went back to the old Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and then Iwanted to flash to the depending RIL, but tested at 1st the RIL_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M and I'm amazed.

After the first tests work the old radio and the new RIL well together, excellent reception, very fast GPS location (with the new radio, it took long time), fast internet ... will now retain it and test it for longer. The other RIL is flashed so quickly if it fails.
[Desire HD General] msrblonline:
does anyone have any experience which radio i should use on vodafone hungary? i use 26.09.04.11_m2 now but i have really low signal on 3g and hsdpa. or it is just about the operator? thank you for your advice!
[Desire HD General] AA--92:
Are thes radios in RUU format?
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
No, they are .img files that are supposed to be flashed via fastboot.

Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA lightspeed telepathy.
[Desire HD General] jappo01:
Guy's I'm flabbergasted and stuck.

I've been toying around with flashing ever since my first WinMob phone. Made the transition to Android, even flashed my Titan to Android. No probs at all.

First read up for some montjs on rooting my (unbranded) DHD. Then used the best-practise methode and succeeded to root. Flashed a new ROM (Cyanogen Mod 7). Flashed a new radio (Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2), which succeeded. Made sure the RIL matched the radio.

But nevertheless, my Bluetooth & WIFI suck. After a reboot both Bluetooth and WIFI won't start up. All it says is error. Sometimes after a few hours WIFI decides to work. But bluetooth won't.

Just tried flashing Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M, but still no success. WIFI & Bluetooth won't start.

What would be a possible solution?
[Desire HD General] leith51:
Could be a kernel issue try flashing lord mod kernel see it that helps
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Might be a RIL issue. You said you flashed the matching RIL for your radio.

Even if the CyanogenMod team have introduced preliminary support for HTC RILs, I'd suggest you to try to reflash the stock RIL or another G RIL of your choice (I'm currently using the and check again if everything is working :)
[Desire HD General] jappo01:
@Drakknar: Would love to try the ones you're currently using, but I think something went wrong typing which ones these are ;) Would you be so kind to post which ones you use...

@leith51: Found LordModUE's 8.01 kernel. I'll check back after flashing this one
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
Sure, I'll post the links and update this post as soon as I'm back home :-)

EDIT: Here I am back :)

Here you can find the 2.2.0018G RIL (which should be the default one bundled with CyanogenMod): http://www.multiupload.com/UIKJISPK55

and the 2.2.1003G RIL (which is the one I currently use): http://www.multiupload.com/3JF2DCEHGJ
[Desire HD General] jappo01:
Thanks for the posts. Tried both your and leith51' solution.

Neither flashing a new kernel or using the G Ril made my wifi & bluetooth function as they should. Even tried flashing the ARHD rom (with the recommended Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 radio & ril).

On ARHD my bluetooth works sometimes but disconnets after a few moment, same for wifi.

Any other suggestions or might this be a hardware problem?
[Desire HD General] grzesiek1945:
Maybe check on other rom, aosp for example miui or black ice.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Sounds like it could be a kernel issue, since Wifi and Bluetooth depend on it.

Try a different kernel, maybe that will help you out.

Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA lightspeed telepathy.
[Desire HD General] jappo01:
Tried the latest LordMod. No results unfortunately. Even needed to reflash because it won't respond to anything anymore.
[Desire HD General] leith51:
Try back tracking to a full wipe and a basic 2.1 stock Rom and the matching radio if you still having issues then its a hardware problem
[Desire HD General] preacher65:
Just a thought - were you still on ARHD when you flashed the kernel, or back on CM? And which kernel did you flash?

This LordMod UE kernel for AOSP ROMs (e.g. CM) won't work on Sense ROMs:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1085725

The LordMod kernel for Sense ROMs is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16434385&postcount=2

You probably already know this but I thought it was worth mentioning. :)
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
I'm hearing mumblings of a new radio... anyone got any info?
[Desire HD General] JEANRIVERA:
i think it would be more helpful if you provide any kind of evidence or link about whatever you heard or read about any new radio
[Desire HD General] Madaz2:
@JEANRIVERA your RCmix banner goes to edit signature page not the 3dmix thread
[Desire HD General] Drakknar:
I don't have any info about that, sorry mate :( As soon as something should leak I'll make sure to update the thread :D
[Desire HD General] JEANRIVERA:
it is intentional so i could edit my signature by pressing the banner but if you press the ROM in my signature it takes you there!!!!
[Desire HD General] Madaz2:
Haha cool :)
[Desire HD General] jappo01:
Tnx. I'll try your tip and see if it solves my problem. If not, I'll head over to HTC.

Hopefully I was this smart, but -just to make sure- I'll check by doing it again and trying your link to the Sense kernel. If it solves nothing, I'll try leith51' tip.

I'll check back to let you know!
[Desire HD General] futur1sm:
Does anyone else find that WiFi usage on the 12.62 radio is rather high? I am using it in combination with it's RIL on Runny 3.3 and the drain for WiFi seems quite high (I turn it off when not in range of access point). Cannot win as the drain is better for WiFi on the 12.54 radio but when on Mobile Network it drains really heavily. :(

Anyone found a good combination on Vodafone (UK especially)?
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
Wifi is controlled via the kernel, not the radio.

Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA lightspeed telepathy.
[Desire HD General] futur1sm:
Well that's odd as I never changed kernel in between radios/rils? I am using RCMix v7 which came with the ROM. :)
[Desire HD General] henrybravo:
Your statement is misleading. Wifi signals are radio signals, so the radio is involved of course. It's not out of the question that a particular radio version can have an impact on wifi performance.
[Desire HD General] arachnid1970:
Maybe you should try v10 :)
[Desire HD General] ROBINGAZI:
I was wondering if anyone had good battery consumption over EDGE network on a certain DHD radio.

I have so far tried Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M but I'm not happy with the consumption. On both the radios I lose about 10% battery an hour over EDGE. However, if I stay on wifi I lose about 2/3% battery an hour.

I live in Bangladesh and we don't have 3G here so high 3G battery consumption is not an issue. I just need a radio that goes well with EDGE.

PS: I asked this in the Q&A section a while ago but failed to get any solution.
[Desire HD General] CamoGeko:
It's not misleading in any way. Wifi signals are controlled by drivers in the kernel, it's nothing to do with the radio firmware. Mobile network signals on the other hand (edge, gprs, 3g, h) are controlled by the radio.

Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA lightspeed telepathy.
[Desire HD General] cubases:
I'm very interested on this topic...