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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
That made sense...until the lg dc phone in korea is mentioned which is running froyo...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
Thank you. I never said there was anything wrong with the hardware. All I was stating was howit could've, and failed at, being a new trendsetter for phone specs like the n1 was :/
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
LOL Yeah, man, I'm so defensive. Geez, some random dude on the interwebz has totally gotten under my skin talking about my phone! Omg! Mooooooooooom! Ah, trolls. Anyone who disagrees with them is immediately labeled defensive, a fanboy, or some other term that tries to invalidate their opinion.

Look, bro, here's the bottom line: You started a thread on a topic that's been discussed to death. There has been alot of great discussion about the pros and cons of the Nexus S. It has always boggled my mind why people who don't own, don't want to buy, or think their current phone is better than the Nexus S want to discuss the pros/cons of it if its for no other reason than to say "hahaha my toys are better than your toys."

What are you hoping to accomplish here? Are you waiting for someone to say, "Oh man, that dude is so right. I'm going straight back to Best Buy right now and getting my money back." Do you think people here don't know what the Nexus S has or doesn't have or are incapable of deciding for themselves on what they want?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nohcho:
Word
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
Some of us are more open minded than others. As I stated before, again just because I don't own it, it doesn't mean I'm not interested.

I was disappointed in the fact that there wasn't another phone revolution with this nexus compared to the last one.

Now what else am I going to have to reiterate for you? Because the redundancy in your non-relevant posts are getting tiring. Go troll somewhere else, unless you have something constructive to say.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
The reason is quick cash from a 6 month old galaxy
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
Thats right And i hate that :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorak950:
I think the reason is deeper than that. Samsung probably came to Google and asked to be included in their club. The reason that Samsung has lagged behind in the Android market isn't just incompetence as many XDAers seem to think, it's at least partly because Samsung is relatively new to Android and hasn't had the "ins" that some others (especially HTC) do with Google. I read an article on this in... oh, I forget- Ars Technica or TechCrunch probably- which made good sense to me. Samsung most likely asked to develop the Nexus S to give it a leg up in rolling out future Android upgrades and to deepen its business relationship with Google. And being that Samsung is- for whatever failings many of those among you think it has- the number one IT manufacturer and the number two mobile electronics manufacturer worldwide, Google was no doubt happy to oblige.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DKYang:
Blah blah blah. That's all I'm reading.

People want this, want that, and that over there, and this one, and put that on the top. For crying out loud, you can "think" what the next Nexus phone could have been. It doesn't change anything. You don't think it's worth moving to the Nexus S? Fine, don't. You want to know what are the pros and cons between Nexus and that phone? Fine, go ahead and ask.

But for crying out loud, no one cares anymore what the next Nexus phone should have been. Go work for Google and get your word in, otherwise, it doesn't matter. The Nexus phone is all about an Android phone being backed up by Google themselves with no parties in between. That's all. Nothing about "revolutionary" comes to my mine when someone talks to me about a Nexus phone. What does come to my mind is a phone that is backed up by Google.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorak950:
I agree with DKY in the sense that I didn't buy the Nexus S because of the hardware, I bought it because it means I don't have to let the manufacturer and my cellular provider determine what upgrades I get, when I get them, and which features will be removed because they'd rather charge me for their proprietary versions of those features. Some people scratch that itch with third-party ROMs, which the fine folks of this and other online communities generously provide, but I think it's nice to have the option of true, modern Android as a stock experience, too, and to have first access to updates, even though that sometimes means dealing with bugs.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
That makes a lot of sense. Why he couldn't say that without getting defensive is beyond me. Ty.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tommyz2kool:
but you're not interested in the nexus s. What you're interested is discussing how the NS fails to live up to YOUR needs.

I could understand if you actually bought the phone thinking it was one thing and it turned out to be something else, but you didnt do that. The whole point of this thread is to crap on the NS, thats it.

Oh and dont get it twisted saying NS owners are not open minded. We all know DC is around the corner yet knowing this we still chose the NS.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ll_l_x_l_ll:
some of these posts people make here are seriously a joke.

its funny how people here now are ^sure^ that android is not opmtimized for Dual core. thats awesome really. the first Dual core phone is coming in less than 1 month and the videos of it blows the galaxy S away and yet some of the people here say its not optimized.

hell they are even talking down about the Tegra 2 GPU from Nvidia ? seriously ? you are comparing the Galaxy S GPU to Tegra 2 ?

and lol @ the dude saying you will barely notice the difference between 960x640. 800x480.

if your blind then yeah i am sure you want.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
/facepalm

Yeah, bro, you just got such a way of affecting me. I definitely got "defensive" by disagreeing with you and/or asserting that you were beating a dead horse with this topic. Totally, man.

This is why I try to stay away from trolls like you.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mortzz:
Yay more useless *****ing. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of the people bashing haven't used it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorak950:
This is all symptomatic of a larger issue of people believing that subjective issues of preference can be distilled to objective issues of performance. There is no one perfect phone for everyone because not everyone looks for or values the same things in a phone. Yes, there are pluses and minuses to the Nexus S, as with everything else on the face of the planet, and the XDA forums are a great place to share knowledge and even opinions about those things, but there's really no justification for blasting or undermining someone because they love a phone or a feature you think is stupid or vice-versa. That's where the line between discussion and flaming is drawn.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
Well said, very well said, indeed. Thank you for reminding me why I come here.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ztm.000:
This thread need to die. They're pointless, and OP? If you don't like the NS then leave, because no one wants to hear you bicker.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ll_l_x_l_ll:
so you only want to hear one side which is how awesome the phone is ??

cmon. not everyone share the same thoughts you do. this is why these forum exists.

true some are trolls. but there are some people who actually didnt like their phone and they want to share their experiance with other people.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jimmypopulous:
Baseline development phone. It's not difficult to understand, people.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
But we got plenty threads like this! We don't need another one.

Guess what? Even if Nexus S has dual core, external sd card, HDMI out people will STILL complaining!

Why there is no FM radio?

Why the screen is not 4.3"?

Why there is no voice canceling hw?

Why the RAM is only 512?

Why the internal storage is only 16GB?

Why the screen is contoured?

Why the size is that big?

Why there is no hardware button?

Even if those are incorporated into the Nexus S ... People will STILL complaining!

Why is it not quad core?

Why the GPU benchmark is not impressive?

Why the phone corner is round?

Why it does not use Super Amoled 2?

Why the battery is only 1500 mAH?

Why is it not Honeycomb?

Even if those are incorporated into the Nexus S ... People will STILL complaining!

*Tired* ...

This kind of thread is just useless.

Mod, I think you better just CLOSE this thread.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iDavey:
Not to mention the Retina Display is such because of the size of the screen.

Increasing the resolution to match it would not have yielded the same results.

In order to get a "Retina Display" on a 4in screen...you'd have to probably achieve a 1600x960 resolution...which isn't happening.

If you would rather them shrink the screen back to a 3.5 or less size...then hey, you can have all the Retina Display you want while having that small screen.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorak950:
Though all reason aside, that retina display is gorgeous to look at on those nice store displays. [/offtopic]
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
A 4" display at 326 ppi is only 1130 x 638 px. (assuming a 16:9 ratio)

PS, I want to stab every single person in the eyes that keeps using "retina display".
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vapor311:
pretty sad though when the i5 is getting dual core.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lord_Buckington:
Is that a rumor or something actually confirmed?

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rashad1:
If you guys want an IPS "retina" display on an Android device then buy a Meizu M9 or that sharp phone that's due to come out any time now. These phones only use 3.5" HVGA displays
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidmage:
sorry wrong thread
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidmage:
This is just the dumbest thing someone could say about the NS. The Nexus 1 was a trendsetter for phone specs because it was need at the time. The phone that were being produced for android at that time were behind the times with old outdated hardware.

Today that is in no way shape or form needed. Every manufacture had devices today that are cutting edge and pushing the envelope. The Nexus S doesnt need to fill the same role as the N1. It's here to show of the OS not the hardware, and Gingerbread is definitely more refined smoother and aesthetically pleasing then froyo.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
So then what was the n1? I thought it was meant to up he hardware game and show off the os with no ties to the carriers?

Maybe they wanted the nxus s to test out the sales strategy for the nexus 2? Considering they were marketed wayyyy different. That'd make a lot of sense.

or maybe the n2 will be a honeycomb t2 or orion tablet...that would definitely up the game lol
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B3arfruit:
This is very funny......I got the nexus s and will buy the next one when I comes out in about month. How is this possible because a year later I can still sell it for over 300 like I did my N1.....
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kubernetes:
Yes, this is why I go to XDA forums for phones I don't own and lecture the members about how their phones are inadequate for my personal needs. It gives me a feeling of enormous well-being.

Yeah, I'm being sarcastic.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
I believe I stated suggestions for what it should've been, not anything for my personal needs, which is met quite perfectly with my epic.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tommyz2kool:
As if your suggestions are going to change anything? Do you think your suggestions will somehow magically change the NS into something you want? Do you think your suggestions are going to change the minds of NS owners?

If your needs are perfectly met by your Epic, why are you even here?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
Because its the general forum where I wanted to discuss the phone.

I don't get why are y'all so jumpy
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] petep86:
BC ur wasting space, in OUR space... buh bye!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
Because you are repeating same subject over and over.

There are a lot of threads like you have "suggested".

We hear ya ... and we don't need another one ...

That's why people start bashing you.

Your opinion does not matter much with people who want the most up to date software (Android OS), to have assurance for receiving software updates directly from Google.

This kind of people will buy NEXUS line of product no matter what the hardware is!

And there are a lot of people like this!

They don't care about the upcoming dual core, quad core, what not.

Get that?

So, remember that, Ok?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tommyz2kool:
But you're not discussing it. You're complaining about it because it doesn't meet some preconceived notion of yours of what the NS should be. Notice how none of these types of threads are actually made by people that own the phone?

It would be understandable if you actually own the phone. But you dont. By your own admission you already own a phone that meets your needs perfectly. So basically the gist of your posts are: Nexus S sucks because it doesnt have (fill in the blank). We are not idiots. We all know how to read a spec sheet so its not like we dont know what the NS has or doesnt have. We dont want to hear the same crap over and over again from people like you whose only experience with the phone is playing with it for 20 minutes at best buy.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
But that's just it. This isn't about my phone. This topic is about how I think google should've released a flagship phone with next gen specs, like the n1 at its time. And being on a forum, a topic is usually followed by a discussion.

This thread wasn't started to bash your phone. I don't get why does someon have to have a phone to discuss it. The people over at the windows phone 7 forums are the same way when I asked why would microsoft use embedded sd cards instead of just making them upgradeable.

I believe this is a general forum, where you can post about ANYTHING, including something completely off topic, like what you had for breakfast.

So basically, what I'm saying is, if you don't like what I have to say, you can gtfo and leave this thread for people with open minds who wanna discuss the mistake google made :)

Because really, I don't get it. Its not hard for me to admit my phones flaws.

It has 512mb ram/rom

That's more than enough for me, since it comes with a 16gb card, but I would've liked the standard sgs 16GB rom+expandable storage and micro hdmi (which it was gonna have, but sprint took these features out out of fear for the evo losing momentum I guess considering this phone would've been better than the evo in every way had sprint not messed with it). Also, there's a 4g speed cap onthe epic, while the skys the limit for the evo.

See. Those are the kinda replies I want. People that are willing to admit their phone could've been better, and stating how/why. No need to get defensive considering we're all happy with our phones regardless of what they're missing.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A_Flying_Fox:
And now they have a 42 inch one that NO ONE can buy :/

That's messed up.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
LoL

Took the words right out of my mouth JC ;)

Gotta love apple sheep adopting words Steve Jobs tells them to...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorak950:
Retina display retina display retina display. *flees*
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidmage:
Again I will say this the reason the Nexus S is not some crazy over the top phone hardware wise is because thats not what google needs it for. The N1 needed to fill this role because vendors at the time were not building android phone with the the best and newest hardware. I mean when the N1 came out there weren't really any phones after more than a year that were much better than the G1. That simply is not needed with the Nexus S The competition between hardware manufacturers has phones coming out constantly that are cutting edge top of the line devices. There is really no reason to increase the clock speeds currently the drawbacks would outway the gains and dual core technology just isn't ready to make its way into the wild yet. The Samoled screen is the best on the market right now, the curved glass is so sexy. The Nexus S was made to show off Gingerbread's refinement over the previous versions and get the ball rolling in areas like NFC.

The N1 fulfilled is role perfectly and I doubt we will ever, from google or anyone else, see a phone that is even half as far ahead of the field as the N1 was.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
People are creatures of habit. They see a good thing happen once (Nexus One setting a new standard) and they figure it must always happen in the future the exact same way :rolleyes:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harveydent:
Funny about how people are having an argument about people arguing that they're dissatisfied with a phone on a board founded by people who were dissatisfied with their phone so the decided to mod it.

Oh, and RETINA DISPLAY.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onthecouchagain:
Agreed. I've always argued for people having every right to criticize and complain - even multiple times - on an open forum where opinions inevitably differ from ones own. No one is calling for people who create threads being satisfied about their Nexus S to stop posting about their praise. Likewise, no one should be telling someone to "mod" or shut down any threads with complaints, dissatisfaction, or regrets.

In fact, discussions of this kind should be encouraged. Differing views usually help make the best judgments. This might be especially useful for people on the fence. I was one of them, and found all opinions helpful in my decision. I ultimately purchased the NS, and while I'm happy about it, I'll certainly voice complaints (as I have many times about Gingerbread's many glitches) so other people can be aware and more informed than myself when they make their decisions.

Also, there's a simple solution that makes these conversations moot: you could just avoid reading the threads you're not interested in.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
the thing is, most people expect more from this phone from all the prerelease leaks, and news hypes, so when the real stuff hit the street, every one got dissapointed.

it doesn't apply to me, as i didn't even know Nexus S existed, until a few weeks ago, mainly because i was only looking at phones on the 850/1900 bands

but just recently there was an unlimited EVERYTHING deal on the competing cell phone provider that only runs on 1700/2100 sooo Nexus S automatically became the only choice as there are no other better phones that runs on those bands

the Tmobile Vibrant works, but... is too... hmm.. buggy :p

I wanted a True Google phone that was not tied down by Samsung or Tmobile

but when compared to the old SGS... it leaves a lot to be desired :( even if it was all bugged like the Vibrant

it'd have been nice to be dual core, and support for external microSD would have been nice as well, considering now in days we eat GB for breakfast.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
No, you are wrong. This forum topic is about NEXUS S in General.

It is not about your breakfast cereal or your new fancy diapers!

You got it so wrong for this.

You don't believe me? Try to make that kind of topic now :)

You are trying too hard :)

You are trying too hard to convince people that this phone is flawed.

That won't work.

I told you many times, even if NEXUS S has all that you have imagined, you will still complain it anyway.

That's why this kind of thread is f*cking useless.

Same to you then. No need to get offensive if people disagree with you :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjcforpres:
Is there a personal level of disappointment with the Nexus S in some regards, yes. I wish they would have put in more RAM, expandable memory, better camera, etc.

But there is no way I would ever complain the Nexus S is a disappointment of a phone. Best combo of CPU and GPU on the market. One of the best screens (honestly, too subjective given the different variables). New technology like NFC and the curved glass.

Most of all, the Nexus S is an improvement over the Nexus One, and thus upgrades the "official" Android phone. Even though I am a very loyal HTC customer, only bought/owned a couple non-HTC smartphones (wife wanted better camera, work gave me a BB several times) I am still thinking seriously about the Nexus S as my phone for 2011. More than good enough computing power, great screen, thin, light, will have the official cutting edge Android OS before anything else. Sounds great to me!

The only mess at all with the Nexus S is that some people expected a Nexus "two", in that this one would be a two fold leap ahead of any other Android phone before it. That is not possible, and will never happen again. Nexus One was a unique position and timing that will never happen again, unless things get really crazy. Kind of the perfect storm... not only did it bring about the 1ghz processor revolution/standard, it also ushered in the start of the "matured" Android era. Prior to 2.0/1 Android was way to immature to capture a large audience, and prior to the 1ghz processors smartphones were phones that could do computer like tasks... now the opposite is more true, they are computers that can do phone like tasks.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onthecouchagain:
Stock Gingerbread is chalk full of bugs of its own. Glitches galore.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tommyz2kool:
Nothing personal, but that's just retarded. No phone is perfect so theres always something that can be better.

Your complaints cant change the hardware. Nexus S owners arent complaining about the hardware because we can read a spec sheet and the hardware meets our needs. If it didnt, we would wait for a different phone.

I have no problems with complaint threads. I see threads about poor battery life, something going on with the screen, issues with multitouch... those are actual things to complain about.

But your complaints are just pointless. Its like me going into the epic 4g board and making a thread complaining that it comes with a hard keyboard.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
yes 2.3 glitches are a given and expected.

I was referring more to the Galaxy S line of hardware bugs, like GPS issues and many other things, like the bad samsung owns cooked file system, etc, etc...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shagman68:
Sorry to disappoint you, but I have had many great experiences with HTC phones, and then I got a pair of Vibrants' for me and my wife, and they are both un able to get consistent GPS locks, lose their location in mid route to somewhere. The magnetic compass on both are an epic fail, as I cannot use Street View or SkyMap with them.