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[G Tablet General] nataluna:
Sorry if this is not a useful question, but I wonder if I can still install this update when I have replaced the original tap-UI with the tnt-lite? I know it's just another version of the same UI but I'm not 100% clear on what the differences might be.
[G Tablet General] djohncline:
Not sure about retaining any previous apps etc. I wiped everything and began a new. Only one or two FC's, everything works. i have not hacked the market yet but, I did make a good back up and tx'd some droid x apps over and they are working fine thus far.

It seems to be very stable and functional. my 12 yo has been pounding on it for a few hours w/o any issue. I think i may attempt to load it on his 7" pad tomorrow.

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Dang! Getting the lag on 3.0 now too. Sucks.

No Google calender on my device.
[G Tablet General] rmolter:
The wife opened the Gtab this morning and were trying to run the update, but it keeps failing. It will download, then asked to install and when i click yes it shuts down and when it comes back up its the triangle with a ! in the middle and the little android guy. It just stays on that sceen. I have to hit the power and reset it, but then it comes back on to the old OS and warns me about the update again. I have done this 3 times with same results each time. I called VS, but they are closed for the holiday. Any ideas? Thanks
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
Under Settings:

Applications --> Development --> check the Stay Awake checkbox

And

Display --> Screen timeout --> set to Never

Then do the OTA update.

Jim
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
Maybe the download is corrupt. You could find and delete it, and have it download it again. If I recall correctly, it is in this folder:

/cache

It will be named 'update-smb_a1002-3389-user.zip'.
[G Tablet General] eck0728:
Mine is doing the same thing... I think it may be because i have clockwork mod installed? I'm not sure. I tried to download the update and make it an update.zip but clockwork keeps saying install failed (Bad)... so Im not trying the steps to update VIA OTA.
[G Tablet General] rothnic:
Just try manually downloading it: http://tapntap.http.internapcdn.net/tapntap/viewsonic/update-smb_a1002-3389-user.zip

Also download this(if you have the stock recovery): http://www.multiupload.com/LURU5RRYKI

1) Rename the first one to "update.zip".

2) Place it in the /sdcard after mounting it to your computer from the tablet.

3) Download the second link

4) Extract it to your /sdcard

5) You should see /sdcard/update.zip, and /sdcard/recovery/command

6) Power off, Power on while holding volume + until you see the update start
[G Tablet General] rmolter:
rothnic,

i am currently trying this, but should i unzip the update.zip file to the /sd card or leave it as a zip? I tried to do as you said and it does come up in safe mode, but when i select that file, it says its unable to open it.
[G Tablet General] rothnic:
The larger of the two is not extracted, just renamed to "update.zip." The smaller of the two IS extracted.

/sdcard/update.zip

/sdcard/recovery/command

Is has to look exactly like that to work. If you have clockworkmod installed, it won't work that way. In clockworkmod you would choose to run the update.zip. I'm unsure what you mean when you say "when i select that file," because there is no way to select it unless you have clockwork installed.
[G Tablet General] rmolter:
well then, that tells me that i have a used Gtab, because it has a a file called clockworkmod. I also see a Root folder.

I thought it was a little strange that there were fingure prints on it. Looks like im making a trip to Sears tomorrow to return it. Thanks for your help.
[G Tablet General] nataluna:
To rephrase my previous question, and add the requisite apologies for being a noob (although I am another one who only bought this tablet since I saw all the hacks that could be done to make it nice)...

Dh helped me root this tablet and now I am running the TNT lite. Do I have to reset it back to factory (using that command in the settings or configuration area) in order to install the VS upgrade? Or can I somehow install that on top of the TNT lite and not have to erase all my apps and stuff? I already found several apps on freewarelovers site that I was wanting, such as ebook readers that I could not successfully download from their official sites, due to the problem with the apps market. So I would rather not have to re-install them but I guess it wouldn't be THAT big a deal if I had to, since I know where to get them again.

Also, could someone please direct me to a link where I could find out the differences between TNT lite and VEGAN, etc.? I would like a UI where I could copy-paste inside the internet. Is that possible in any of these?

Again very sorry for my stupid noob questions, but you guys seem like you might actually answer some of them.

THANK YOU in advance for the answers, and also thank you for the software improvements.

Also I wanted to say thank you to the VS folks for actually reading and responding here, that's so interesting that a company would do that. I wanted this tablet because I admired dh's VS monitor, and then wasn't scared off by reviews because of the hacks I read about here.
[G Tablet General] nataluna:
Also I should mention that I was having a record number of FC today, around 5pm, like every time I would open this page and try to touch the edges of the screen to scroll down (not just this page but some other websites, too) it would FC without even an error message most of the time.

I re-started about 3x and it hasn't been doing that nearly as much. But it was really strange. Dh says it's because the alternate UI are unstable, but really the one it came with crashed all the time anyway, so it's not like it's more unstable now. I just thought you should know, because somebody mentioned collecting user reports of odd behavior of the tablet. Although this is not even with the update, since I am waiting for your ideas before trying that.

Sorry for the double post, not trying to spam the board or anything.... :confused::(
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
Use Titanium Backup to backup your apps and always wipe data/cache (factory reset) when changing roms. Wiping cache in cwm recovery may help stop the force closes
[G Tablet General] nataluna:
I don't think I installed the clockwork thing (is that what CWM is?), because I read it was most needed if you were planning to switch between ROMs and I wasn't planning on trying a bunch of ROMs (although I sort of think I might like to, now).

But I could try deleting some other cache files. It does seem to accumulate a ton of them. Are they not automatically deleted ever?

Sorry, this is probably the wrong place to be asking most of this stuff. I need to go search around this forum more.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
z4root (v1.2.2 and v1.3.0) won't install on stock 3389. It immediately restarts the tab.

Anyone else get it to work?
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
After updating my stock g-tablet to 3389, I was able to root it with z4root 1.3.0, no problem.

Did you wipe the data? This is usually needed after a version update.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
Yes, I just reflashed and was able to install it. Not sure what the deal was...
[G Tablet General] psycotix82:
I have a g tab running tnt lite 2.2.4???? With all thehacks that are available........if my tab is running perfect, is there any reason to go back to stock and the OTA update andthen reroot??? Is there a huge difference? I read some other post bandit seems like a hit or miss with some pads.....any comments????
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
The big difference is the ability to play music, etc from the external sdcard with the 3 series. There are others, but that is the one I most remember. You can look at the page Roebeet made where you download TnT. It lists the changes through the versions.

If you are talking about the stock update that just came out I am running it with Rothnics enhancement pack and it is running really well. The enhancement pack leaves the stock interface but adds all the good fixes and Gapps.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
You don't have to go back to stock or reroot. TnT Lite is already rooted. You just install the latest TnT Lite and do a factory reset and you should be good to go (Clockwork is recommended to wipe cache, data, etc).
[G Tablet General] shanghei:
any of the new firmwares let you play x264?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
x264 already does work -- to a point. The Tegra 2 doesn't support high profile h264 files, only main profile. I don't know if a firmware update will ever fix that - sounds like its a limitation of the Tegra 2 itself.
[G Tablet General] rmolter:
Just thought i would update. I went back to Sears yesterday and got a new tab. The guy wasnt sure why I had got a used one, but when i got home, charged it and turned it on you could tell a difference right away. This new one is very fast and responsive to touch. Also the battery life seems crazy good. Just wanted to thank you all for the help the other day. Have a great holiday.
[G Tablet General] shanghei:
what program are people using to play x264, it plays like crap on my gtab but my samsung captivate phone can do it fine
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I just use the vanilla player. The problem is high profile - the Tegra 2 doesn't support it. That means the Folio, the VEGA, the A7 and even the Adam all have this same issue. It's a chipset limitation.

h264 main profile woks fine, but not all files are encoded that way.
[G Tablet General] Luckymoi:
I get "e-signature verification failed" on the reboot after the install, so simlar to yours I guess.

There is nothing in /cache I may call viewsonic tomorrow
[G Tablet General] shanghei:
Im just confused why my phone can play the x264 fine, but the gtab is so choppy playing those same files.
[G Tablet General] fuze1:
Is it possible to go from TnTLite 2.2.1 to 3.1.2?

First, big thanks to all the people working on all of the XDA roms! This site rocks! I'm new to modding, so please excuse my ignorance. I'm running TnTLite 2.2.1 on my GTab. Is it possible to go from 2.2.1 to 3.1.2? Or do I upgrade to 3.0 and then install each supplement sequentially?
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
Up to 3 and then add supplements.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
3.1.0 first (base image) then 3.1.2. The supplements are cumulative, so you don't have to do all of them.
[G Tablet General] rmolter:
For some reason i am getting force closes on a bunch of app's i downloaded. They worked when downloaded, then the next day they started doing this? I went back through and removed the apps, then redownloaded and get the same issue. Some app's work fine though. Also my wireless connection drops overnight. In the morning when you wake it up the wireless connection is not connected and it will not connect until you power down and restart. I went into the settings and turned the setting off the wireless sleep setting. I am a bit of a newb when it comes to modding/programing stuff. Thanks
[G Tablet General] butkol:
current flash version still works!! At least that is something. Also, there is a new (alternative) home screen / launcher. It looks more like the traditional android launcher.
[G Tablet General] markgolly:
Maybe as far as the Apple Fanbois are concerned. However, with the Vega's Flash rollback, I'm not surprised Flash wasn't in the update. Viewsonic/TnT needs to get a 'validated' version of Flash before they can include it. As long as they can do this before all those under-tree gtabs are opened, they'll turn out OK. Not a homerun, mind you, but OK.
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
TapNTap is still slow as molasses, going up hill in, in January, in the Artic Circle! LOL!

Looked for flash in "GMarket"... Not there.

Also, keep in mind ipad=no flash. So if this thing is stable with this new rom, it might still be a viable option for an ipad killer.
[G Tablet General] S2W:
Got to say that atleast they have been releasing some type of updates, perhaps not what we want with regards to having flash. But thats an entirely different subject that deals with adobe green lighting the certificates.

I for one am totally excited about my gtab. Especially knowing that we have XDA to count on. You 3 know who you are.

So Im keeping mines and hopefully things will pan out. the hardware on this device is over the top. in comparison to others out now.

Im no apple fan... so I support this and soon will make themes especially for this tablet.

Roebeet... Hope you can keep up the great job!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
There's a ASOP screen now

Still TnT layered, but very interesting. Allows you to have a more vanilla user experience.
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
I like their launcher type interface. Still slower than TNT Lite, Vegan, etc etc. But nice. I like the transparent indicator bar.
[G Tablet General] butkol:
1834 quadrant score......I do better with Vegan (>2000). Still go google apps. Not much of an upgrade.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
We can fix that. :)

Btw, there is definitely no Flash, by default. And I don't see anywhere "official" to get it.
[G Tablet General] S2W:
Im so tempted to wipe this out, so I can see whats up w/the new updates but I trust roebeet will come with an update soon. lol
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Give me a day and I'll have a TnT Lite 3.0.0. Some of the changes should translate there.

If the alternate launcher is actually a separate apk, I'll leave that in there as well.
[G Tablet General] Fyras:
All the people complaining about the update: if you want to sell me your gtab. (as long as its in working condition)

Send me a pm :)

Thanks

Fyr.
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
Seems like the more I use it, the more it is not so bad. It's been on for 10 minutes without 1 FC yet! That's an improvement. The TNT UI seems to be a little faster. Thinking of a consumer user, this might actually work for them now.
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
Just looking at the name of the update file is telling me it came from Malata with the smb-a1002 portion in it. I still think Viewsonic has a limited ability to make change and is just relaying there desires to the manufacturer and getting what they get. Price you pay when you want to play in the outsourced, we want our name on it so we can make money sales game.

I don't see the lack of flash in this update as a death nail. I see it as a lesson in marketing things that you do not have control over. The word Flash on the box was a dumb choice considering they did not have a certified version of flash. I guess we could just lay blame on Adobe. Who knows what Adobe did or did not promise all of the manufacturers. And Adobe may have said don't, and all the mfgrs took that as DO....

I find it kind of fun to watch how all of this works. Makes me know I would never ever want to be involved in sales...
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
New launcher:
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Understood, but all consumers and retailers know is Flash is on the box. False advertising via the box the product is in. Flash is a HUGE reason people would pick this over another device. The product should not have it on the box, then no wrong perception of what a consumer is buying.
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
Guys with it installed...

Does it seem faster than before??

It does to me.
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
Easily fixed... little white sticker over the flash symbol on the box. Even Staples, Sears, etc, etc can do it for them.
[G Tablet General] cuzzinz:
I think a lot of you worrying about the tablet not being supported are worrying too much.

When a company develops a product like the gtablet they will most likely put support and development in place for at least 6 months. Viewsonic is a big player in the electronics world...especially in the US. They are not an Asian based company that would just drop support for a product 2 months after it dropped. Unlike their competitors they actually have REAL offices in the US... lol in Walnut California(I live about 30 minutes from there). Advent and a lot of these companies usually do everything overseas and then maybe employ 1 or 2 people here in the US to handle distribution. That is definitely not viewsonic's distribution and support model.

Granted they do use Asian manufacturers and probably outsource for most of their products, most likely their product managers are all US based.

Unless they have something legal make them pull them off the shelves the gtab will be around for a bit. Most likely with support. They obviously invested some good coin in TapNTap so they have to make it worth their money. They know they have a good product and TapNTap is actually useful and offers simplicity, they just need to make it work right. Lol

So dont worry guys... I dont think they will just drop support suddenly worst case if they did they would still need to close the project and finalize things a bit.
[G Tablet General] Fuzzy John:
How long before this makes an appearance in the normal update channels?
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
If Archos can ship a tablet that promised Flash, and Android 2.2 with no Flash, and Android 2.1 by putting a little statement on there website that said it was coming soon... Well, Viewsonic should be able to fix this too if they think a little bit...
[G Tablet General] Skempo:
Were can I find the Android Emulator for Windows?
[G Tablet General] Talk2Rider:
Pink flowers? I think Roebeet is exploring his softer, gentler side.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Seems catch 22, since perhaps would not be selling much at all without the Flash symbol.... ironic ;)

I know I would not have the G with no Flash. I would wait for a device that did. I may have been stuck with the weakish Archos 101, had this not come along- white sticker free ;)

After getting used to Tegra 2 and the standard 512mb ram, I would not get the Archos 101- ever.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Had he not already pointed out he is a dude and I noticed a dude's name when I donated, I would think he was a dudette ;)
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
If you have the android sdk package then you have it. You have to download and set it up from there. Pretty fun playing with stuff on your computer screen.
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
So darn slow though... I mean slower than the stock G-tablet... really slow.:D
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
Oh yeah.. Molasses in winter slow. Still fun though! Here is an Android 2.3 emulator I setup real quick.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I regret my decision to this day that I used "roe" in my name, but I'm stuck with it. hehe I guess my avatar doesn't help - that's my daughter's drawing, btw.

Just google "Android SDK". There's a slight trick to get this working with the OTA updater, but it's not too difficult.
[G Tablet General] xmr405o:
Wow. Eventhough no flash, I'm still a little impressed that VS put out an update of some sort like they said they would. Can't wait until TNT 3.0!
[G Tablet General] hogasswild:
Will we be able to install 3.0 over 2.4 and keep all our previous apps and settings?
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
Got the D/L. Looking at the structure of the files, is this one of those where I have to create a "Recovery" file with a Command file in it to start the OTA update -- which has to be renamed update.zip?

Been a long weekend with too many Christmas crowds.

Rev
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
The actual ZIP from TnT is an update.zip file. You can run it off clockworkmod, or pair it with a recovery/command file and it should run in standard recovery.
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
Roebeet,

Thanks. This is for the machine I took back to 3053 yesterday, so I will be using the Recovery/Update.zip method.

Rev
[G Tablet General] lostpilot28:
I hope this isn't a bad question, but I'm going to ask anyway! :D

What's the benefit of going with TNT at all if the other MODs are faster, and do everything you want? I was on TNT Lite 2.4, then switched to VEGAn. There are only slight user interface differences that I can see.

Funny thing is, I'll probably try out the update from VS and see what it's about. It can't hurt, of course...just not sure what everyone is expecting from any 2.2 version of Android. Customize it how you like...they aren't THAT different (are they?).
[G Tablet General] rothnic:
You are right that they are basically the same. TnT just has a bit more framework overhead that probably accounts for a little more responsive vegan rom. 95% of the files are virtually identical.

I personally am very dissapointed in this update. They made only one change that we did not have which was the reading media from sdcard2. We could already hide TnT, which is what TnT lite does.
[G Tablet General] akodoreign:
Got one for my step father that I hadn't opened yet. Put the new update on it.... Runs just fine

Added Gles Flash

Angry birds seasons (had angry birds already on it)

added an alternative market place (didn't want him having to reset framework with titanium all the time)

Charged the battery ... wrapped it and put it under the tree :D

Newest update is pretty responsive (were pretty spoiled with vegan in all honesty)

:D
[G Tablet General] Lnin0:
So is this update OTA or just zip? Are we 100% this zip is the one they will push out.

Can someone post the release notes from this update?

...Kind of got me thinking about this Adobe Flash certification. On Adobe's site there is only a single android tablet 'certified' - the Samsung Galaxy. Knowing that tablets wouldn't be able to access the market legitimately, due to Google restrictions, do you think its possible that Adobe took that opportunity to cut an exclusive deal with Samsung through the holiday?

Maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist but if VS or Advent had noting but a handshake agreement then no reason Adobe can't hold them up with some bogus certification claim. Also odd that Adobe, who lets you install Flash on any old crappy laptop, would aggressively block the sale of the Advent tab over Flash certification - not licensing or fees but certification. Or maybe Adobe is just taking all of Jobs' prodding to heart.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Question is the update more significant for out-of-box-non-mod folks? You guys have already kicked the OEM devs butts for an update. Key for Gtablet existence is will the update change impressions for people that do not mod?

Another big key is can out-of-box types side-load the Flash we are using? Viewsonic may want to indirectly reference it somehow. Their site STILL says Flash will be available on 12/19:

Adobe Flash Support

The Viewsonic G Tablet hardware and firmware provides full support for the Adobe Flash Player built into the unit. At the time that the G Tablet was manufactured, the Adobe Player application was not available for this product. We anticipate that a version of the Adobe Flash Player Application will be available by December 19, 2010. Owners of the G Tablet will receive an automatic notice that the plug-in is available for download to further expand their web access and entertainment. (Please note that the automatic notification requires that the G Tablet has WiFi Internet access upon power-on.)
[G Tablet General] new_to-droid:
No OTA update yet. I'm new to the Android experience. I've been cutting my teeth on an Archos 5 IT and bit the bullet to buy the GT before the news came out of the RTV saga. I still like the GT and I'm hoping to get it working better. I'm using Opera for a browser, because the TnT browser dies (especially going to sites like this...hmmm..).
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I heard at least one other person who hadn't seen the OTA update yet -- weird.

Keep in mind that if you've modded your build.prop test keys, then you'll never get an OTA update. It has to be exactly what it was in the stock ROM.
[G Tablet General] new_to-droid:
Thanks...since I used z4root; should I restore it to factory?
[G Tablet General] Lnin0:
No ota update here. :(

Just checked. Got 3035. Never been anything but stock. No root. No cwm. Just angry birds and kindle from gtab market.
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
roebeet,

I'm confused. Did you get a notification of an OTA update, or did you just find about 3316 some other way?

FYI, I haven't gotten a notification on my stock Gtab yet, and when I tried in Settings, it said I was up-to-date.

Weird.

Jim