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[EVO 4G Android Development] chas123:
From the 4th post:

Does this mean that the v7 kernels don't charge on USB, or that they just don't trickle charge on USB?
[EVO 4G Android Development] drewtorrespr:
Nothing really to test it. The one way I always new SetCPU had turned on was that a little icon would pop up on the notifications bar showing the SetCPU profile. It doesnt do it anymore nor activate my AndLock after flashing this kernal. Any ideas on what might have caused that or do you suggest a redownload and reflash?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Thats the old builds...V7 kernels charge on USB, including trickle charge.

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] dthomas03:
I am currently on MIUI 1.22 w/ AOSP and its working great. Camera, BT, Wifi are all working in harmony. Sometimes GPS doesn't find my location (only sometimes). Battery life is not bad at all - make sure you give it a good charge before putting it to the test. V8 usually is my kernel of choice for AOSP roms since all of the amenities in the Evo wrks!

Hope this helps!
[EVO 4G Android Development] LudoGris:
I never used the notifications before - didn't even know it was there before you mentioned it. I turned it on and rebooted and it started up ok.

These are going to be basic suggestions, please do not take them as me saying anything about your knowledge, just want to cover all basics.

1) Notifications under SetCPU is still checked?

2) Superuser has SetCPU always allowed?

3) Using SetCPU 2.10?

Not sure about AndLock, as I never used it. I would give it a try to redownload the apps first and allow superuser to let them popup and allow. Then I would try to reflash the kernel.

Hope this helps :confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] DRUMSBH:
MS...Any update on V9? Need a beta tester?
[EVO 4G Android Development] chas123:
+1

Is this out of development now? I have read countless 'scary' posts about lithium ion technology and 'smokin' batteries and such, but I have also read many 'I've been using this from day one with no ill effects', and, while I'll probably try a v7 kernel in the mean time, I would love to see a HTC-15 v8 or v9.
[EVO 4G Android Development] yellow92bird:
I am running Azrael X v3.1 with the newist radio and pri is the newest 1.7.xxx and fully rooted. I am unable to flash your sense sbc kernel. I get an aborted because theres a pin12 missing im srry i forgpt what it said exactly but i can try for the 3rd time if need be. Thanks for any help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DRUMSBH:
+1 for a HTC #15 v8
[EVO 4G Android Development] klquicksall:
I have an extended battery. I flashed this kernel charged over night with all pos charging stats. I used my phone on 4g most of the day games, internet, talking, etc... I was still at 50% after 10 hours of use. I'm going to put my regular battery back in and see whats happens.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chogardjr:
You can toggle signature verification with AmonRa's recovery and it will work but if your using clockwork your out of luck. You might pm MS and tell him to resign his kernels. I don't think he's worried because it does still work.

From a supercharged Evo!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tom1l21:
I was able to get positive mA's from 1220am to 3am. I monitored when battery first reached 100% at 1220. At 1220, the voltage was 4.146 and slowly climbed to ~4.206 until 3am where is showed about -8 or -10 mA every minute until i woke up at 8am. Does this mean it is working? I never remember getting up to 4.2 while my evo was running and not powered down.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dcharleyultra:
Yes, it's working.

Swyped from my Evo 4G using Tapatalk
[EVO 4G Android Development] ralg0528:
So i been charging my battery all night, everything look good i was tracking the charge with battery monitor widget. battery was at 4205 mv but when i unplugged the ac charger its went down till 4132 mv, is this normal to see this drop like? if now can someone tell what can i be doing wron thank!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Why wouldn't it drop...you're not charging any more.

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
If I flashed the htc v7 kernel is that the one that's SBC enabled? It says root-paris-laptop in my settings under kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Yes, and that is correct in settings...newer versions with SBC available here

http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] dirkyd3rk:
I know there's newer ones but man the htc v7 regular sbc is getting awesome battery life on my myn rls5 wow its been 30 mins and its still on 99% wow
[EVO 4G Android Development] dottat:
Has anyone ever compared the standalone charger quality to the EVO running an SBC kernel? I'm curious if the standalone chargers fill the battery like the SBC kernels do...
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Kind of. It fills the battery until it's close to the max voltage, then cuts off. The biggest problem is that subsequent charges fill the battery slightly less each time, which is why you have to recalibrate it every so often to raise the maximum voltage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dottat:
the reason i'm asking is due to the negative hype SBC has gotten. I'm curious if the stand-alone vs SBC charging results in similar charges. Does a battery off a standalone charger suffer from the almost immediate 10-15% drop?

**edited due monday morning dyslexia
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Oh. Standalone charger. Now I understand. A standalone charger charges to max voltage then cuts off. The difference is that on the standalone charger, the battery doesn't have to keep powering the phone after the charger shuts off, so you don't lose the charge when it's not charging. You would not get the 10% drop.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheebahawk:
Is there any update on V9? What is the status? I flipped thru the last 10-15 pages or so, and no mention of how things are progressing with V9?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
Last I heard ms has school to take care of and doesn't have much free time. For the topic of sbc versus standalone, I don't have any info on that but I do have graphs of my extended battery charging on my sbc edited code and my wifes extended charging on stock #15 which I can post if anyone cares. Just let me know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tom1l21:
I see ~100ma extra through sbc vs taking the evo off the charger at the bottom of it's 100% discharge cycle.
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
For the people running 3500mah batteries, which kernels seem to give the best life? Only reason im asking is ever since i switched to a 3500 bat, the battery doesnt seem to hold anywhere near the charge it should. even after getting nothing but 0ma's i take it off charge and it drops into the 90's within a few minutes. this didnt even happen with the stock battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tom1l21:
I have 3500 and haven't rly tried diff kernels for batteries so can't say.

As far as the drop after taking it off the charger, this is fixed by an SBC or trickle charge kernel. For some reason, the v7 or v8 didn't work for me so I used a cmtrickle kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] klquicksall:
Im using the more havs v7 kernel and I can go 14 hours with heave use and still be at 60% battery life. It works great for me. I have the seidio 3500 battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
O snap +1 bc that question was last post of that page and all I could think of an answer to tell him was kinda great minds think alike hehe
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
Well whatcha using aosp or sense then we can go from there
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
with my 3500 I've been using 4.3.2 more havs and it works good, I think I'm getting a full charge, it doesn't drain fast after unplug, it will stay at 100% for a bit then drop slowly/normally. I use my phone heavy, like constant screen on + data and it will go a full day while my stock would bail after 5 hours or so,
[EVO 4G Android Development] tom1l21:
Not sure if this is the right place for this but I have a ton of battery stats questions.

1. Do you need to delete and calibrate batt stats everytime you change batteries on the fly, i.e. 3500 to stock?

2. If you nandroid and flash a new rom (new kernel as well), when you restore back your nandroid backup, does the batt stats stay unaffected or does the new kernel from that new rom screw em up?

3.is the correct method to charge to full, deplete to 0-5%. Then charge all the way up to 100%?

4. What the hell does batt stats do?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
don't worry about batt stats, ms said a long time ago they are worthless and actually wipe themselves often
[EVO 4G Android Development] tom1l21:
Is that just applicable to these builds only or are batt stats meaningless altogether.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
sbc builds for certain, unsure on others, might be a placebo effect
[EVO 4G Android Development] AbsolutZeroGI:
So there was talk in this thread a little bit ago about the next version of this kernel coming out soon. I've been using it with Myn's rom for over a month now and I'm really...really...really excited about the next installments for this kernel.

Any news on that?

also, loving netarchy's 4.3.1 kernel on my MikFroyo, but I'm tired of charging my phone all the time. So, now I'm back to being a full time MS fan. Love your work dude, can't wait for new stuff :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrwicked:
How's HTC KERNEL #15 v7 running for anybody thats using it with the stock battery? Also, I can't seem to get the download link to work..keep getting a server error.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
here you go
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smidgers:
I've been using calks undervolted htc # 15. Does anyone know if there is an sbc version if this that exists?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cb7tuner93:
Trickle no longer works for me :( Running Myns RLS5 SBC #8, Battery once again dying quick.:(
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
Are there any new updates from MS himself??
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrwicked:
Thanks man
[EVO 4G Android Development] AbsolutZeroGI:
It seems to be working okay for me and has been for awhile now. I had to wipe battery stats (first time ever) because it was registering a full charge at only 4100mV and that's just not right lol. All's fixed now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
It's in the OP's post #2

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smidgers:
Regular # 15 is. Not undervolted.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xtshadowxt:
Where can I get the sbc nets 4.3.2 or 4.3.1 kernels?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
get from netarchys website or here is 4.3.2 more havs http://db.tt/ShJixEI
[EVO 4G Android Development] xtshadowxt:
Thanks man
[EVO 4G Android Development] klquicksall:
This kernel charges my seidio 3500 batt to the max. Going on 18 hrs and at 47% with 4g on and super heavy use.

The EVO you wish you had
[EVO 4G Android Development] vin255764:
Thats the one I was looking for :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
Enjoy your epic :)

I lose 0% in ~8 hrs when sleeping.. Both 3g and wifi are on (but obviously wifi takes precedence over 3g). The wifi profile is to 'never sleep'.

See below for rom/kernel. Sleep is @ 245 mhz, conservative. Phone is relatively snappy and responsive coming out of sleep as well as normal operation.

ymmv.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timdawgdentist:
So sorry you feel so disappointed with the evo now. I would like to personally thank you for all the dev work. If it is a placebo effect I have swallowed the pill. These kernels have without a doubt extended the use of my 3500.

Thank You Ms

tim
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I'm still enjoying the Evo every chance I get. I just like comparing and if I can get my hand on the code from their battery driver then maybe we can get this right.

Well for SBC its kinda different since it charges it past what the phone thinks is 100% It gets your more out of the battery so draining from like 100 to 95 is gonna take a lot longer with SBC than without it simply because the voltage is way past what the phone normally recognizes as 100. So naturally its gonna take a lot longer for it to drop. I just want to know why HTC thought it should say that 100% is like 4.115 or some crap while Samsung has it at like a smooth 4.16+.

Its like...idk...I just dont know how much of it is in the battery driver. If it's possible to actually fix it up to start reading like the Epic then that would be great and that would also tell us that we do in fact have a lot of control but if we cant..then...back to the drawing boards. I got 3 more days left on my unexpected 6 day weekend so I'll be seeing whats good.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Also pat the devs on the back. All these roms in this forum, dayum. These dudes workin their asses off to bring some variety around here. They listen, they respond, they get it done...this dev forum is always poppin. Epic users only have like 5 leaked froyo roms to choose from...all of them are themed unless you choose stock and stock doesnt support ext4 -.-. It aint right.

Another thing: Gingerbread was kinda lazy. Its literally the exact same thing as the leaked 2.2.1 for Galaxy S...minus the UI. But the subtle changes like how you can tap in a text field and drag that cursor..thats there. I have a feeling that Gingerbread + Sense UI is going to be insane though. Because the new Sense (the sense that is on Desire HD and Z) on 2.2 was crazy...Sense is a beast
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
I want to see what type of governor, speeds, and voltages the epic uses. Setcpu could tell the governor and speeds but the source code would be needed to see the voltage table.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
Ms, I will test anything you throw my way willingly. I hope you find the Samsung code and share it with us
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Well with the kernel I'm on (since its the leaked froyo there's only one kernel...) is on conservative. Their processor and speeds shocked me a bit, they dont have the 998-960 etc etc. Its straight up 1000, 800, 600, 400, 200, 100. And their undervolting is very similar to the undervolting found in Evo kernels. Well...similar to Netarchy's.

:D Im gonna go on github and take a peak later on today and try to figure out whats goin on. Hopefully somethin can be done.

And since I havent read these forums in a while...they still testing SBC kernels to see if they cause explosions? Whatever happened to that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
I don't know about these tests, but from my compiled kerns with different undervolt values and methods (svs, avs, havs) as well as different governors and cpu speeds (i managed to get 1.26 to not crash) i noticed that the sbc mod charges better, cooler, and more consistent with undervolted stock freqs (998 and below). Sbc on oc (since oc needs the higher voltage) would cause spikes in temps and voltages. Right now the kernel I am daily driving is using the freq set 998 and below with havs undervolting. The only governors on it are ondemand, conservative, interactive, and smartass. Smartass ticks me off because it only uses about six freqs out of the 18 available ever. Sbc is definitely no placebo here for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
they gave up on sbc bashing when they ran out of propaganda to spew, nobody willing to do side by side tests.

id be willing to subject my battery to long term tests, you know what its been through well enough and its still chugging along with no loss of life
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
have there been any more people claiming that the kernels have messed up their batteries?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
I havent heard any, I think the total went to 8, none of which could give any real evidence.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
We all know the real deal, no need to gloat =p haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] DRUMSBH:
MS... could you possibly give one more kernel.... a HTC #15 Bump (v8) instead of the trickle (v7)? Not sure if it takes awhile dumping the new code in?

Still many props for all the contributions you have made to the Evo. Thanks Again.

DRUMSBH
[EVO 4G Android Development] gratefultyler:
Seems like all those threads died a month ago...fittingly. No real data.

Tester ready with multiple 3500, 3200, 1800, 1750 & 1500 batteries :-) SBC is beautiful, but like you said MS, I suspect there is more going on with these kernals/battery scripts than meets the eye.

Why did my HTC Touch Pro2 charge (and discharge) exactly how it should, one percent at a time and always charged to full capacity regardless of battery mAh. Accurate and reliable stats.

The TP2 battery is the EXACT SAME as the EVO battery (hence why I have so many batteries ready for testing after my TP2 days). Two HTC devices, same battery...Code???

Sent from my EViO2 SBC 4.3.2 SuperMachine
[EVO 4G Android Development] Swede2008:
So the TP2 batteries fit in the evo? Does the 1800 fit with the normal door? Is it name brand?

Sent from my HTC Evo! :-D
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
MS....For the love of God....PLEASE give us an updated AOSP kernel....New CM7 is out...I need a wimax kernel....PLEASE!!!!

Like what's happening here....These are not working as good as yours...

http://mirror.munkibizness.com/
[EVO 4G Android Development] Karl:
plese more sbc kernels
[EVO 4G Android Development] vin255764:
SBC makes me a beleaver.

back off P.I.T.A members lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheapskate88:
What problems are you running into? For me, they've been working as well as any other SBC kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vide infra:
the aosp build

12/25/10 - SBC for BC's Kernel SBC-bcnice-stable-v7.zip (2.62 MB)

didn't play nice with the newest cm7 nightly. i lost the ability to mount SD card storage when using it :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
aosp v7 build is for 2.2, ms hasn't released a 2.3 modified kernel yet, so far none are perfect
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheapskate88:
Savage-Zen for gb is not giving any problems. Runs smooth and i'm hitting my standard 4188 with +2 to +4 mA's. No complaints.

MS take your time. Stay in school.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gratefultyler:
Exactly!

FYI - the 3200 mugen batteries do not fit with the 3500 Seidio battery door. The 3500 is just a millimeter thinner than the 3200. Although all fit in my EVO! Batteries, batteries, batteries...Ive got mad power!
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
Giving me lots of lag..BFS or CFS.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheapskate88:
What governor are you using? Trying playing around with those and see what happens... Regardless, I'm pretty darn sure their implementation of SBC is not the cause of problems.
[EVO 4G Android Development] drewtorrespr:
"Not sure about AndLock, as I never used it. I would give it a try to redownload the apps first and allow superuser to let them popup and allow. Then I would try to reflash the kernel."

I actually had to do that...I found thru some trial and error that the reason the SetCPU and AndLock were not restarting automatically after reboots, is that I had moved the apps to SD. If I do that they wont restart after reboots...So those two i have to keep on internal memory. So it has nothing to do with the Netarchy Kernals.
[EVO 4G Android Development] drewtorrespr:
I will say this, after discovering this Post and changing my kernal to one of Netarchy's SBC 4.3.2 kernals its been a blessing. But I will say one thing, I found on another post somewhere in XDA that PRI above 1.77 were causing battery drainage. I was experiencing some unusually quick drainage thru the day after a week and a half after flashing 4.3.2, and keeping pri 1.90. I just flashed back to 1.77 and updated the ROM to azrael x's latest release, which was a minor change in the ROM Btw, and now this thing is barely draining the way it should. I believe 1.90 is a problem deep down. So if anyone is reading my post and going thru unusual drainage that your saying "wait a minute this is weird", then give it a try and flash to 1.77 and post back on here to see if it has helped with minimizing drainage even more. The more we can confirm this the more we can let the rest of the forum be aware when flashing to 1.90 with an SBC kernal.

No problems, blow ups, meltdowns, or total destruction of phone since using an SBC Kernal, BTW.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
I never really bother that, so I am guessing 'on demand". I have since moved off CM7 due to MMS messages not downloading. I am on Warm Z now using 131 and V7.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
It is up to date :) put in my final update earlier today.
[EVO 4G Android Development] squick:
I just read a thread about a specific kernel, and it said it restricted the camera to 3 mp, I think because of the overclocking capability. Does this kernel have any effects like this? Can you overclock at all? I dont know much bout kernels. Just gettin into them.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mgalyan:
Yes you can overclock it. No it does not affect the general use of any hardware compared to a stock kernel to my knowledge.

Overlocking so far in my experience is only useful for boasting about your Quadrant benchmark numbers. In real life, it offers no noticeable impact the the overall "feel" of using your phone. It also expends battery faster.

Besides, running Sense widgets you are never going to post Quadrant scores like guys running bare-bones Android roms like Cyanogen.

We may not be the fastest, but we do look and feel better arriving fashionably late :) .
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
your a savage man! people should donate to you and like it, i am loving this tweak man hot damn! let us get the word out so these dev's can incorporate your tweak

check my earlier posts, i think probably is either a port of another ROM to the Evo, any evo based ROM should not have any camera resolution issues that i am aware of
[EVO 4G Android Development] squick:
Thank you. I'm gonna try it out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
And i still have a few tricks up my sleeve too ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jrotert:
3G WIFI tether isues

I flashed your kernel and everything worked fine except Wireless Tether (WT) would only work on 4G and not 3G.

Both 4G and 3G worked flawlessly on [ROM] Stock Turbo (Enhanced Stock ROM) 12/07/2010 with stock HTC 11 kernel.

Flashed HTC #11 kernel back and WT is working flawlessly on both 3G and 4G.

Just thought you might want to know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
what version of WT do you have installed?

edit: I am running WT 2.05-RC1 and used it to post this edit
[EVO 4G Android Development] jrotert:
Which Version of WT

I currently have 2.05-pre9-VaelPak Edition
[EVO 4G Android Development] sd2649:
Wiped and it worked awesome! Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] lyrical1278:
I know this kernel is one of the best kernel's for me battery life wise. I got HW version 003 with the new camera.

ONLY thing that doesn't work for me is the camera. But I expected it. But the battery life is lookin good. Had it off the charger for 90 mins plus with wifi on and it is still reading FULL

Running Myn's RLS4 themed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
go into the app, click menu - about - project click the link

then click on evo and download the 2.05 RC1 and update it, should fix your problems
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
How are my extended battery users doing? Everything all good? Still need some more juice?
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
Been on the charger for about an hour since it hit 100%, hit 4191, now dropping.

How high should it actually get? 4194(ish) I assume?
[EVO 4G Android Development] muppetman462:
I installed this kernel earlier today. I have an extended battery....I'll report how it goes tomorrow (normal working day)....so far, it looks good though...
[EVO 4G Android Development] sd2649:
today has been great! Very heavy use and it lasted all day. I am talking extremely heavy use. It wouldn't still be kicking before... however... how much extra juice you got? :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mindctrl:
Can't wait to see the AOSP version. Looks great!
[EVO 4G Android Development] david279:
+1 I would like to see this in CM....
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
The drop in charging voltage is good. Just make sure your mA doesn't go negative once you reach 100%