yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
did you wipe before flashing? whats your recovery?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mattykinsx:
Ra 1.8 and I always clear all caches, and battery stats at 100%, unless told otherwise.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nosympathy:
so yeah, as before, running Fresh, V1.4, cleared cache, then cache+delvite, then flashed V1.4 of this kernal, and then went and let the phone sit for near 10 mins, and it reports an almost constant -50mA.

Found the problem, which is really really stupid. Had another battery app, that apparently was running in the background, which put me negative.

:D

gonna let it run for a little bit and make sure, but now I am happy!
[EVO 4G Android Development] BIGWORM:
Any reason why this kernel would set off my haptic feedback? Its doing it even though I have it disabled...
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
is that kernel related?? i thought that was rom related
[EVO 4G Android Development] BIGWORM:
Im not sure.
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
Yea 131 is not melding well with my evo. Been off charger since 2:15 am down to 80% put phone on charger at 8pm. I checked spare parts no strange awake times same with system moniter

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
el tuercas con queso no hable la verdad!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mattykinsx:
Just fyi here's what it looks like with a different kernel:
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
the only other question is are you OC'ing? Maybe either that, governor, or possibly setcpu profiles is jacking with your stuff
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
Think i found the problem governor was set to smartass. Not sure if it matters

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
no kernel files based on the stock htc kernels? like the new #15?

thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
why would which govenor mater?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
doubtfull since still waiting on htc to release the source for the kernels. hence the hw4 ppl having some camera issues with some kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
That's what I'm asking. LoL

Unplugged for 4hours 30 mind and. I'm at about 20% battery left

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G Android Development] SouthernEvo:
Depending on the kernel , the original developer felt "Smartass" was a good governer . In that mode the phone slept well and used little power till you started using it then it would drink battery way to fast . He later went in and did more testing and found that if the kernel was left in "Conservative" mode it performed better at saving battery life while sleeping and during use .
[EVO 4G Android Development] SouthernEvo:
My advice to you is do what I did , I was expierencing excessive power drain as well .

1.uninstall Setcpu or disable anything that might be managing the scaling of the cpu

2. go into recovery do a cache wipe and Dalvik wipe

3. reflash the kernel you are on

4. restart the phone

Its to my understanding by doing these steps you are resetting the kernel back to its original state . let it run unmodified and see how the results are then .
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agfadoc:
MS.. Everything working great for me. Thank You!

I would like to make a very clear statement, there are many different configurations that the EVO can have. With many different hardware configurations, the variables are endless...If you did not find a combination that worked for you before this modification, then this modification will not resolve those variables.

You really need to have investigated each ROM, Hardware version, kernal combination BEFORE flashing this modification.

If using a particular ROM with a particular netarchy kernal with a particular hardware version doesn't work successfully for you BEFORE you flash any of these, it will certainly not work for you after.

Please, investigate these issues before you ask your question here. MS will not be able to resolve the incompatibility issues with the different variables.

I feel something like this should be in the OP for those who will not do thier own investigations, and just hope someone will answer their questions for them.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agfadoc:
I woke up this morning and there are 25 new pages and most are specific to this mod, and you know I am not talking about those, it is the:

"what battery app"

"which kernal should I use"

"do I need to clear my cache and dalvik"

"my device won't boot past the white screen"

None of these should be in this thread, MS is doing his best to keep up and in order for him to do it effectively, you have to know your configuration and your limitations with your hardware device.
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
Well o flashed two nights ago and everything seemed to be ok. After about 18 hours my phone died. Last I checked it was 3 hours before it died and had like 35 percent left. I plugged my phone in and went to sleep. When I took my phone off the charger this morning it died like the battery wasn't charging. I did a nandroid and now my phone shows 100% battery. Oh ya I'm on sbc cm on 6.1.1. I'm not sure if anyone had reported this also, I just wanted to get this out there before I head to work

Swyped from my dark and cyanogenized EVO

Custom wallpapers and splash screens: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=854701
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
I've been off the charger for ~15mins all on xda and I'm down to 95% and I'm reading -444mA...will post more results after work

EDIT: I'm running v3 less aggressive, and the CPU is still very choppy...but we'll just see how it goes

Sent from my Warm EVO :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mitchellvii:
Just flashed "v1.4 Build(s) - Edited AC/USB trickle charging"

... and I gotta say, so far I'm very impressed.

Have been quite hesitant about using HAVS Aggressive Kernels in the past as coming from computer overclocking, it is hard for me to get my head around supplying lower voltages for higher performance. Anyway, I am running Fresh's latest rom and thought, what the hell and gave 'er a rip.

So far, very quick and smooth performance. Running off stock oem battery and charged overnight. Got up, made coffee, checked newsgroups and emails and sat down in my home office, all-in-all about 30 minutes after unplugging.

To my surprise, was still at 100%! Under prior circumstances, I would be at 92% (or worse) already. So bravo!

P.S., Am using SetCPU on smartass/1.19 x 245 out of habit and recall ready something where netarchy felt his latest releases did NOT need SetCPU to run at optimum. Is that true?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dmoses1969:
I'm getting a lot of negative mA values also with SBC for Netarchy's 4.2.2 More Aggressive. Shouldnt be getting any negative mA should we?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Strange problem

Since I have installed the Kernel for Sense that someone posted, I have no been able to use TITANIUM BACKUP to FORCE APPS to SD. it says it is moving the app but it no longer does. I CAN move APPS back from SD to internal but I cant force them to SD.. the program APP TO SD works fine with programs designed for SD but ones that do not and can be FORCED no longer let me in TB PRO which worked before this kernel. Any ideas??? It says it is moving to SD but I dont get the notification that it moved the app to SD in TB PRO and it still says MOVE TO SD in TB PRO.

Any help would be appreciated ... Thanks...
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
One other question.. with this new kernel, is it best to set SETCPU on SMARTASS or ON DEMAND (what I had it set at with SPRINT LOVERS ROM and STOCK KERNEL).

Thanks...
[EVO 4G Android Development] yamaford:
Everything was going great. 2 hours at 100 %. Then I tried catching up on this thread and I'm at 92. STOP TYPING, YOUR KILLING MY BATTERY! LOL :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
O yea and here's something that I find interesting...I was messing with setcpu and I decided to set its Max at 614 and min at 245 and it seems as if scrolling through my homescreens are better than they were when I had it at 1152...any thoughts?

Sent from my Warm EVO :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agfadoc:
I have had problems using Smartass..I am sticking with conservative.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhantomHacker:
Here are my results for v4 more aggressive. I seem to get fully charged then start seeing -mA again. This was after charging over night.
[EVO 4G Android Development] edgemaster191:
Hmm I didn't have to do anything special. Just flashed the kernel and every was working fine. When I flashed a fresh cm 6.1.1 203 I had to flash a sense rom first than wipe everything again and flash cm6.

Also do you have ra recovery? See if you can enable usb mass storage through amen ra . If you can't then I would guess the rom and kernel aren't the problem.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cb7tuner93:
Did you guys charge to 100% first "Then" charge for at least 30 min and this is when you were getting the negative mA's?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sidepart:
What kind of life are people seeing when they leave 4G on? So far I've drained to 90% in 1 hour. Is that good or bad considering how power hoggy 4G is?
[EVO 4G Android Development] japclev:
Running Baked 1.8 and the 4.2.2v3 kernel. Without SETCPU/Profiles and JUICEDEFENDER, charged overnite and woke up with 100% and 2ma. Took off and came to work. Mine went down 10% in about 1hr with light usage. This is much better than I usually get. Going to put SETCPU and JUICEDEFENDER back tomorrow..should be better. Thanks to OP.
[EVO 4G Android Development] theultimatev:
I read through this thread a bit, but I couldn't fine if anybody was using this on a 004 hardware evo. I dont want to flash & brick, which is what got me stuck with this 004 in the first place...anybody know?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Couple of questions

Couple of questions.. Im running the version posted yesterday for SENSE roms...

1. Which SETCPU setting should be use? SMARTASS, ON DEMAND? ETC? for best battery life?

2. why does titanium backup no longer let me FORCE apps to SD? apps designed for SD work with APP2SD but I was ABLE to FORCE apps to SD and I can no longer.. it says it is moving and looks like it is doing something but it isnt. It doesnt give me the notification that it moved etc...

This is using SPRINT LOVERS ROM on 003 Hardware ...

Thanks....
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Net said his latest kernel (4.2.2) was best overall using conservative governor (default) for saving battery while screen off and during use of phone. His HAVs kernel more/less agressive then tweaked with battery mod by MS implies no need for SetCPU...unless you want to OC/UC. The battery mod gets you a real 100% charge and Nets kernel maximizes battery use.:D

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] typeadam:
I was on build 199 and flashed 203 right over that (essentially going from 6.1.0 to 6.1.1 without a full system wipe (only dalvik cache)) If I remember you were one of the people that answered my question yesterday saying I don't have to wipe.. :D

Clockwork

I CAN enable it in Clockwork but it doesn't matter b/c the moment I plug the USB into the computer, it disconnects itself.

It HAS to be this kernel b/c when I flashed 203, I hooked up to my computer to make sure it worked and it did. I had USB access and charging through my PC. I flashed the kernel and it stopped working.

I also restored my previous backup of 199 w/ stock kernel and it worked fine too.

I don't really know much about these things but it's almost like the voltage is too high w/ this kernel and the phone thinks it's on AC even though it's USB. That's why the phone isn't allowing USB/ADB to properly activate itself and disconnects itself from the computer.

I just got to work and plugged it in to the AC charger (stock HTC) and it charges, no need to shut the phone off first like last night. I want to try to plug it into my work computer but it's a Mac and I'm not sure if it'll skew my research...

On a side note: The kernel is AMAZING! NO -mA all night during the charge. I was hovering around 4mA, 5mA, 6mA all night when I reached 100%. I unplugged it at 6:30am, 9am now and I'm at 95% - I did about half hour of music on the train, some email and web browsing. Mind = blown! I just wish I could make the damn USB work!

I'm hoping the v5 that MS will put out later have a fix...
[EVO 4G Android Development] eyeballer:
v4 (net 4.2.2 more aggressive) didn't work for me at all last night, v2 i was getting -3/-4mA and no initial drop, but last night -60mAs with v4 (AC charge overnight).

Got the initial drop this morning.. never got to try v3.
[EVO 4G Android Development] elosogrande7076:
I personally have a 004 build evo that i got on Thanksgiving. I have use various custom kernels with very minor issues (the ocassional reboot or force close but nothing major). From this thread i have used build 131, sbc 4.2.2 more havs without an issue. I will say that i have not been able to get the desired effects like everyone else is (i see a lot of people saying they stay at 100% for 30 min or more, i may see it for 5 to 10 minutes). It might be becasue of syncing im doing with gmail and having gps/weather...who knows. Great work Ms!
[EVO 4G Android Development] gregabyte:
Does the SBC CM Kernel have the latest and greatest SBC code?

I am running the CM variant of the kernel on CM 6.1.1 and it works fine. It sounds like there have been a lot of improvements in the SBC code since that original CM kernal was compiled - are there plans to build another CM kernel with the latest and greatest?

Thanks a ton for all your hard work, it works great!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
IM not overclocking.. I just use a SCREEN OFF PROFILE.. BUT the main profile is currently set at SMARTASS... should I change it to conservative and what will that do to performance of the evo? I like it nice and snappy... I read conservative might make the phone less snappy?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
MS

OK, wierd...running V1.3 More...Was off charger for quite awhile (at 92%), plugged in to USB and phone did what is similar to a hot restart. Tried 3 more times to see if it did again but can't replicate. ??

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] bignibb:
Hey ms, will there be a version 4 of the no-havs? Not that im rushing you because the version im running is still a beast, ive been off charger for over 50 hrs and I use my phone as I usually do and im still at 61%. Its a 2600 battery but still you are the man. I am also using this with collins battery tweak, not sure if it helps but apparently it doesnt hurt. I dont donate to many developers but you sir will be getting a little cash in your stocking from me. I think everyone should donate something for your hard work.

Where is the donate button?!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
I never noticed real performance difference between smartass and conservative. Net's explanation was they both performed the same with screen off (w/o SetCPU) but conservative was better for battery life when the phone is in use. Probably best to just try each way and see what feels better :D

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] wy1d:
This kernel does not recharge at all. It goes to 100% then discharges completely while on the charger. Picked my phone up after charging all night and it was at 54%.

Is also has a much higher drain at idle than build 132 (214ma vs 134ma).
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
I'll try that when i get home

from my phone duh
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Yeah I plan on hitting up a v5 for non-havs today. Im just trying to get this all straight since some users are saying that v4 isnt charging right and whatnot. Charging issues popped up when I tried to throw in USB so I think im gonna go back with just the charging for AC from build 131 since that charging is still greatness. And I dont have a "button." I just have a donation link at the end of my 1st post on the first page :)

Did you ever try build(s) 131 or 132? Did you get the same discharging on 100% from those? I think Im gonna revert changes and just keep the voltage limits from v4 but keep the charging from 131. That will break USB trickle charging though...(I think..)
[EVO 4G Android Development] FastJoe78:
That's strange because I'm using this kernel as we speak and I'm fully charged and still plugged in and it has yet to post a single -mA...are you using 4G? Did you do a full cache and dalvik cache wipe prior to installation of the kernel? Download the battery monitor app in the market and see if you have positve mA's when plugged in...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Dacian:
I think this Kernel killed 2 of my batteries. After I flashed this, the phone when left of the charger all night would fully charge then turn off the charger and severly drain the phone in a matter of minutes. Almost missed work twice because of it. Now, even though I flashed a different Kernel, it still does it over USB connection (haven't tried wall charger).
[EVO 4G Android Development] bignibb:
I do appreciate your quick responses and quick fixes for us.

I see a version 3 of no-havs what needed th be fixed for a version 4 or 5? I am happy with the first no-havs release but havnt tried to hook up to usb to transfer files, I actually an trying to see how long my phone will last with my normal usage before I do that just to show everyone what can be done with you kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Im on 100% right now and have been for 6mins, its just charging nonstop haha im kinda worried, i need to set that limit but i wanna see how far it'll go..Im gonna regulate temperature as well as voltage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Whats really insane is that the battery and the phone itself arent that warm. matter of fact, when i dont touch it, it cools down. This is crazy, my current going in is down to 28mah, its slow charging, i wonder what my voltage will be once it hits 0mah going in!

We are recalibrating the battery at this point!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sd2649:
Is voltage still increasing?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Nope. I thought it would but both voltage and temperature are decreasing because the amount of current going into the phone isnt that high anymore. its at 24mah now and still charging. This is ridiculous..

well temp is cooling off, voltage is keeping the same charging voltage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sac23:
When can we see a update this sounds great
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Can you explain that in idiot English for me haha?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Well when you start charging your phone at something like 80% the current going into the battery is in the 600s and thats what sky rockets the temperature and over time all of that power going into the phone will cause the voltage to sky rocket as well. Then the phone reaches its max voltage at around 93-95%. It reaches its max charging voltage. Then it all mellows out going into 100% and then once it hits 100% the current is usually 40-60mah. The current being that low means its finishing the charging and the temp goes down because thats not a lot of power. Then thats when the charger goes off and the voltage decreases.

Right now the current going into my phone is 18mah. I've never seen a number that low on any kernel. The charger is still on, and its going to charge this battery to straight up 100%.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Does that mean that when you are charging your phone it will charge slower?? Sorry for the idiot questions
[EVO 4G Android Development] sd2649:
Is that on the kernel you released a few minutes ago, or an unreleased one?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
well on this build it charges normally up until 100% then it does a real slow charge until i have no idea when (thats what im waiting for). But yeah, once you hit 90% it kinda does a slow charge because the current isnt that high. If you were getting 600mah while on 90%, youd hit 100% in 5 minutes. But since you are at about 150-200mah on 90% and 80-100mah on 95% it takes longer.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Thanks for the lesson haha makes sense
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Ok so Im still at 14mah and idk when im gonna hit 0mah on 100% so i just unplugged haha. This build is safe btw, the voltage doesnt hit 4.2V on the charger for me, it just hits my maximum charging voltage of 4.192V. Also off the charger my batt voltage was 4.178V. I shouldve waited a little longer!
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Is that 129?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sd2649:
Is it the build I have? Or an unreleased one?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sd2649:
plug it back in! Lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
yep 129.

yep the build you have. I havent even compiled the one i made changes to. matter of fact, i removed the changes. Words cannot describe how insane the charging is on 129. Ive been working trying to get the percentage to drop with browsing and texting and im still at 100%.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
haha i plan on doing so, i just need to find my cases. my phone is straight up butt naked right now because its easier for me to pull the battery and go into recovery that way than to shut it down, wait for the shut downn, then go into recovery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
ADB reboot recovery
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Man thats too smart for me, I gotta be a caveman when it comes to this. But that is a good idea, wish I wouldve thought of that earlier. It sucks having to take off this otterbox case...such a pain >.<
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Haha, not only that but with adb wireless you don't even have to have it plugged into your computer either to execute those commands
[EVO 4G Android Development] wy1d:
I used build 132 yesterday. The trickle charge worked beautifully but nets 4.2.1 is terrible on my phone and I got much worse battery life on my phone. I heard 4.2.2 was better so I wanted to try it.

4.1.9.1 was always good on my phone so I just flashed it but I don't know if it has the same issue.

Swyped on my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Im noticing myself that there are times when the charger isnt working when I put it on AC with the v4 build. The first time I plug it in to AC the charger isnt even on. But once I unplug and plug right back in, the charger turns on...idk why its doing that >.<
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
How does SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.2.1 (131) compare to SBC for Netarchy's 4.2.2 More Aggressive? I am using 131 and it's been superb! I am scared to change to anything else.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
That build just has only AC trickle charging and it doesnt have as high of a voltage limit as 4.2.2. But issues are popping up on these USB ones...idk why. For some reason it seems like switching the charging source from USB to AC is messing things up for some users.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhantomHacker:
Hey Ms dont know if you saw my other post but here are my results. Hopefully this helps with testing. Charging all night with v4. I seem to get fully charged then start seeing -mA again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
For those having issues with the v4 4.2.2 build! Try this:

http://www.multiupload.com/U42UWXADB0

It's 4.1.9.1 but its the same exact charging from 131...so lets see if there are any issues. To be safe! When you first put it on the charger and get an Orange/Green LED, unplug...wait for it to go out, then plug back in
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
>.< Idk why it keeps doing that..hm...do you have a lot of things running in the background? And when you take your phone off the charger, do you still get a huge drop from 100% to 90%?
[EVO 4G Android Development] japclev:
On #2, Titanium Backup has been working weird for me over the last two weeks also, when trying to do individual moves, freezes, etc. it just spins and spins....I usually back out, hit task kill, and when I reopen Titanium it has made the move or change....Haven't been able to email dev about problem...

Let me know if you get same results...