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[Droid Incredible Android Development] dccoh:
Poorly done? I agree, the radio is the #1 way to brick a phone. But putting all this on the Op isnt exactly fair. I believe he/she was just stating that the radio exists, and if anyone wanted to flash it then go for it.

I think anyone who does anything to their phone outside of 'normal' use is taking a risk. Some things just means a higher risk (this radio being the highest just about :) )

While it would be a common courtesy to tell people of the risk they are taking, its just that, a common courtesy. If someone is going to being modding their phone, in the end, it is up to them to do research. I researched for 2 weeks before I finally took the plunge and flashed my phone back in August. And if something went wrong who would my fiance blame for my stupidity? Good Ole me

I remember 20 years ago flashing my first bios on a computer, and then it wasnt as safe as it is now. Well I did it during a storm, and um, lost power. I had to get a new motherboard! I should of done my research, and foremost, not been an idiot and used common sense (not htc sense). But i learned to be extra cautious.

Anyway, I hope anyone deciding to flash ANY radio does their research first. Trying to get a new phone through verizon (who supposedly looks to see if you have tried to root your phone or modded it) is something I wouldn't want to do right now.

By the way, you are giving excellent advice on verifying the checksum when flashing, and that just because it works for one person, doesn't mean it will work for all (same goes for kernels, roms, etc). I wonder how many bricks exists just from some novice who found the xda forums, refused to ask questions and do some research, and decided "oh look what I can do with my phone if I flash this!". I guess thats why Faqs and stickies exist :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] najaboy:
Radios aren't flashed through CWM. They are flashed via HBOOT.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikedmeyer:
Yes, dB are logarithmic, but 3dB is NOT a 50% signal change in either direction. Subtracting 3dB means the signal power is halved, which IS a 50% reduction. Adding 3dB means the signal power is DOUBLED, which is a 100% increase, not a 50% increase.

The phone power is measured in dBm (dBm is a unit of power; dB is a unit of gain). dBm are logarithmic, just as dB are, so adding 3dBm doubles your power, subtracting 3dBm halves it.

MM
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Nismo6921:
Gonna give it another go...

Since it seems that the reported locations of servers available through the Speedtest app vary and really have nothing to do with the radio...I must admit that I was getting better quality of signal with the new radio. And to be honest I really didn't have it long enough to see if I had an improved battery life or not. So consider this round 2 and I'll let you know what I find out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RegnierD:
I live in Columbus, Ohio, which is a pretty big city and I got decent reception before this with both 7.28 and 9.01, but after the EVO radio, I seem to have almost 100% signal all the time. My average dbm in my house is around -75 which is pretty good indoors for me. My phone also seems to like anything EVO based, so maybe I have a wannabe EVO-Incredible.l, lol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ejdavis72:
I have been running this since yesterday and I was having problems with missing some calls here and there, but now with this radio, I seem to get all calls. I really like it for Cricket.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] driphter:
Very pleased with this radio. Brought some overall speed increases and no issues yet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lafester:
Been flashing radios for a few years now and have never checked md5sum and have never bricked. 99.9% of corrupted downloads simply will not flash.

Adrynalyne has not been posting lately but I'm sure a quick pm or email will get him to update the radio thread... no need to bash this one.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kjbuente:
I have noticed much smoother data links while in 3G. In low signal areas, I'm noticing switching to 1X faster and have no data communications when in 1X
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DS36:
nobody is bashing here bud

thats common knowledge around XDA for flashing radios, im looking out for newbies.

just because you are getting lucky doesn't mean we need to be practicing bad habits buddy, there are a lot of newbs out there and they should be thought the correct way of flashing a radio. That is the number one way to get a brick. What you do honestly isn't a good idea so dont pass it off like is. there is nothing wrong with flashing radios, the radio is the only time i check a md5sum too. ITS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW.

Everyone on XDA knows better to flash random radios just because someone says so espicially without an md5sum confirmation. you being a long time member should know better.

no hate

And yes radio works great for me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] keith.mcintyre26:
I tested this for about a day, but noticed a loss in data speeds. Reverted back to stock froyo radio and had the same signal strength, but doubled the data speed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kev13Dd:
How many newbies are advanced enough to check md5sum?

I doubt anyone fresh off the root boat know what it even means or have the software to check it pre-installed. Just posting a md5sum isn't going to help noobies

I agree it should be posted, but I disagree it's going to help noobs very much

K
[Droid Incredible Android Development] infamousxsniper:
How do you check the md5sum? I am a rookie/nooby and would like to learn this stuff. Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kev13Dd:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841290

That's what I use

K
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
getting almost 1900 upload and 800 download using internet speed test app, much better than before. about 40%
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
http://www.md5summer.org has a gui
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DS36:
i feel sorry for anyone that asks you for help in the future friend

because all i see you doing is posting bad information for something so easy to do. this is how you protect yourself, i help TONS of NOOBS on here dont believe me ask in the eris community

posted at the bottom buddy ;) a nice little app to keep in your hacking toolbox

This is what I use its an app you can download and you can check it right on you phone. make sure the numbers/letters match with the posted md5sum in any thread before flashing any radio.img

here is the best way to check a md5sum fellas SOOO EASY

there are apps that will do this right on you phone

thanks goes out to scary alien for a wonderful app that will save your phone from total destruction HERE

or here

AFV (Android File Verifier)

by scary alien

1,000 downloads, 17 ratings (4.4 avg)

Free
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
battery life also seems to be very good with cm6.1 stable, kernel #18, and this evo radio. very nice combo!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] digitalicecream:
Anyone try this radio with the latest miui?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tylerwagler:
I'm about to... no insurance on the phone tho, so i'm a little scared...

Update: Radio works fine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] GMK83:
You guys do know that what rom you're running doesn't matter right....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] digitalicecream:
Sort of. From what I can tell some rom work better with current radios... Could also be the chip itself but its worth asking...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jackbtha1:
Just what my new inc needed. Running redemtion rom, latest chads kernel. Getting -70 db for signal and improved battery life.

Sent from my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] asdelling:
Signal was great but GPS didn't worked. Reverted back to previous.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ejdavis72:
My GPS works great! Anyone else having this problem??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
As far as I know, yes it is.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
Depends on your location I guess. 9.01 actually gives me better battery life than 7.28 does lol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] past_pluto:
Anyone else notice no data when in 1x mode?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mark-in-dallas:
I'm really liking this radio, improved signal strength by around 5 to 10 DB in my apartment, which is in a fringe service area and Verizon has actually offered to let me out of the contract that I just renewed, and I'm getting great battery life.

Very little usage, but with 3G and WIFI on I'm at 26 hours since the last recharge (bump charge) and an uptime of 3:36, and still have 65% battery life remaining.

Running Redemption ROM and Kings undervolted Kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
Well after a very long testing period this def. Improved signal strength and thus battery life for me. So I am convinced this is what I have been needing in my area.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jmathai:
I have to agree, I'm getting considerably longer battery life with this new radio. Good find!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mysticmicman:
After putting this radio on my incredible i was a little skeptical. At first i was seeing a drop from 72dBm to 49dBm. But after a few more minutes and doing a *228 it went to about normal (72dBm) to about 87dBm! I also ran some speed tests and my normal download rate was about 2.96mb down and 1.72mb up. Now it was hitting 3.59mb down and 2.49mb up! It seems so far pretty solid. Now these are the results in my house in the south hills area, im going to drive around Pittsburgh today and see if its as good elsewhere. Im kinda new to rooting phones and such but it approve of this radio in the Pittsburgh area lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] br125:
you should know that a lower number is better... ie. 87dBm shows a lesser signal than 72dBm
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mysticmicman:
Oh really? i also noticed i didnt put the - before any of those numbers, does that make a difference?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
Why ignore the negative sign?

Then it makes complete sense to any person who has taken any algebra ...

Log(0.1) = -1

Log(0.01) = -2

And dBm is related to log of the signal power..

So a power of .1 > .01..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] whewstoosae:
Those will always be negative and the closer they are to 0 the better your signal will be.

Sent from my MIUI Incredible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] s197:
Regarding MD5's, they can also be checked via Astro file manager. Just long press and select details. Takes a bit to pop up but it's there.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ianxcom:
about the md5 in og post, there is a 9 at the end when i check.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
Hmm never knew that. Makes things convenient
[Droid Incredible Android Development] setexascustoms:
Mine also.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Ianxcom:
So at quick comparison these are my results.

9.01 radio -86

11.19 radio -94

11.19 radio after *22899 -83

All in the same spot on my desk. Seems almost too close to call.

Still to do: Battery and 3g speeds
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
Same.

10char
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
Fixed......
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
Anything semi-definite regarding battery and 3g speeds for you? :P Also, I hear some people have had problems with data on 1x, have you run into any problems on that front? Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikedmeyer:
-83dBm is twice the signal power of -86dBm.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lexus One:
deleted...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mcgoo99:
yes, sorry this is what i meant to say. sometimes my english isn't so goodly or goodish ;)

what you gotta get all capitalized on me? lol...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gmichaelow:
This is true. However, it seems that this statistic implies a misconception that twice the signal power directly translates to twice the speed and service. But it doesn't.

Twice the signal power (whatever that means) is hardly noticeable (under most circumstances anyway).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dccoh:
Isn't that the other way around?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Berzerker7:
No, you want your dBm to be a higher number.

-83 > -86. The greater the dBm, the more signal strength.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dccoh:
While im no math genius, and I do agree on your logic, I was just playing with my phone.

With more bars my dbm was at -75. When i cupped my hands around the phone and held it close to my body the bars went down and the signal went to -91. That would lead me to assume that the signal got worse, and that -91 was a worse signal.

Am i missing something here?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
They are negative numbers.

-75 is a greater number than -91
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
Lol... how many times do we have to repeat this?

:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hachamacha:
Thanks for posting this. I like reading the experiences, and since I'm pretty new to the dinc, running 7.28 Baseband, I thought I'd try it out.

I'll use it for a few days and if anything changes from now will report it. No problems at all flashing it after checking the md5sum to an SLCD model.

Before flash on 7.28 :: -93 db (at some arbitrary spot I stayed at throughout)

After flash to 11.19 :: -87 db (same spot) --

No SMS problems. All functionality is there.

Turned off Wifi and ran some speedtests, which I wish I'd done before because I'm in Southern Cal in the midst of a big storm, and I can't tell what's due to what.

Anyway, the downloads are 'respectable' (~1Mbps), uploads are truly bad to any server I pick (.08Mbps). I know they've been better than that so I'll try testing after it's cleared up in a few days. I'm using the popular "speedtest" app.

Battery "appears" to sink more quickly, but it may just be that I'm paying attention. Normally my hacked dinc (no HTC* or VER* apps or services) lasts ~2 days on a 1750mA battery, so we'll see.

Here's one thing I don't recall seeing in the thread: With 7.28, when I dial *228, and option 2, I don't have to reboot. It just says done, and is done.

With 11.19, I not only have to reboot after *228,2 (or *22889), it auto-reboots the phone. It's not a disaster, but it struck me as odd. Anyone know if this is the norm for some baseband releases?

---- Hashi

Edit: a few hours after doing this, I realized that 7.28 also forces a reboot for me when I do *22889. The other realization was that data rates are crawling back up in 3g speedtests. Now I can usually get 1Mbps up & down at some servers. I think it was the storm having caused a lot of problems. So, it seems OK.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] da_knowledge:
Does the link still work? I'm seeing a 404 message.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] past_pluto:
Not sure if this is the radio's doings or the Alltel/Verizon hybrid PRL I have but I hit a new high of -38dBm today. I have never seen any signal higher than -50 before today in the six months I've had the phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] swm5126:
Link down for me also. Could someone re-up or post a mirror?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] whewstoosae:
We're going to have to beat into some heads. Haha, it's really not that hard of a concept. :P

Sent from my MIUI Incredible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JermsMalibu:
Yea, I've only seen in the -50s before too as my best. however, just last week, I saw -35 at my local police station (volunteering there). I wonder how this new radio will do there since I get better signal at my house and work already. I didn't even know it could get that high. I figured in the -50s was the best possible.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] past_pluto:
One thing I am noticing when riding down the interstate is that I'm not staying at -59 like I was with the 7.28 radio. It's anywhere from -80 to -38. It's like I get way better signal when I'm up close to the tower with the 11.19 radio vs the 7.28 but when I'm riding in a high signal area but away from the tower there is much more variation with 11.19. Edit: Wondering if I should switch back to 7.28 but I'm not really noticing any difference other than the number in settings.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] past_pluto:
Switched back to the 9.01 radio and will see what readings I get tomorrow on the interstate where I previously got -59 steady. So far sitting here my range has been -89 to -63. The 11.19 radio range was more like -99 to -65. Going to check the area near the tower were I saw -38 with the 11.19 radio today when I go in to work tomorrow.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kasumodo:
same here. would love to find a mirror for the 2.15.00.11.19 radio...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] past_pluto:
I have the file and the md5 matches the one in the thread. http://www.multiupload.com/8J68NVEM2K
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RegnierD:
Here ya go guys, gotta love Dropbox. :)

http://db.tt/QKn3wEn
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cooljames2186:
e559db670e8c520b871e9a658f5acbb9

Md5 sum:

e559db670e8c520b871e9a658f5acbb9

Checkerhttp://www.md5summer.org/[/QUOTE]
[Droid Incredible Android Development] morph3k:
Do you mean *22899? I've never used *22889. Are they different? *22899 doesn't make me reboot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
OP edited...fixed link thanks RegnierD
[Droid Incredible Android Development] egobuster1:
so is there any downfalls to running this radio on the incredible?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
None that I can tell...only pluses.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hachamacha:
Oh -- Probably I was actually using what I typed here. Good catch ;) -- I'll try it and let you know.

----

Well, I tried that *22899, and:: *228,1 and *228, 2, and all of those also cause reboots with any radio on mine, but they are warned for, (resetting phone for changes to radio) is the message.

Thanks, Hashi
[Droid Incredible Android Development] slumpey:
Try *228+ worked for me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hachamacha:
Thanks, Slumpey.

I think what I'm realizing is the my recent SLCD version of the DINC has some unique (some not so great) properties.

When I enter *228 (followed by anything) I get the message that the phone will reset to complete programming. Maybe it's unique to the SLCD.

The other thing is that the P3*.img radio image steamrolls my SLCD unique recovery sector. I always have to reflash that after applying a radio, which is not a big deal.

Maybe the SLCD is a different animal when it comes to some things (other than just the display).

Hashi
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RegnierD:
Absolutely. Glad to help out. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
I've discovered from experience that certain roms reboot after prl programming. It's not specific to slcd or amoled revisions
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanmcd72:
I too have never once checked md5sum when flashing radios. I do definitely sit back and wait until people verify it works, then I just download from a spot I trust and give it a try. I've been doing this for a long time on a lot of phones. Never bricked a phone. This is not a recommendation, just a statement. It's not that big of deal.

Now for the radio - I saw no improvement with the last radio, so I've been using the official radio thus far. I just installed this one last night and will try it out over the weekend. So far it doesn't look like anything's changed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Treken:
Thanks DS for the link for AFV. You are absolutely right! If a noob is never taught the way things work, they remain forever a noob. Hurt pride is far better than a bricked phone. Thanks again!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] naqlc:
If you guys are running Linux or Mac OS X you can go into the Terminal and type md5 at the prompt then space then drag the file onto the terminal window and hit enter and it'll give you the sum.

It should look something like this:

Silver:~ andy$ md5 /Users/andy/Downloads/PB31IMG\ Evo\ radio.zip
MD5 (/Users/andy/Downloads/PB31IMG Evo radio.zip) = e559db670e8c520b871e9a658f5acbb9
Silver:~ andy$
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aeroorion83:
With the 11.19 I've noticed that especially in poor signal areas it will switch to 1x and not go back to 3g for several minutes or until data is switched off and back on or the same with airplane mode. Before if passing data I know it wouldn't switch back until it wasn't passing data for a second or two but this takes a long time even when passing nothing.

I'm not sure if anything is causing it, I'm on CM6.1 stable, came from 7.28.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pchuk815:
For those of you who have Terminal Emulator, you can check md5 sums from your phone...

http://www.absolutelyandroid.com/smf/index.php?topic=75.0

Just remember that the PB31IMG.zip file on your sdcard will try to install itself as soon as you go into bootloader.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] superchilpil:
Ours all do that

It's how the programming actually sets in, if you don't reset it won't

As for the other part, do u have s-off? Because that would cause that if it was s-on
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pHluid:
GPS refused to lock for me on the first few attempts, but I just waited it out, closing and re-opening Maps and Navigation, disabling an enabling GPS, generally, just fiddling with it, and eventually it settled in.

I had a similar situation with the 7.28 radio, as well, so I didn't freak out.

Subsequent locks, however, have been very fast, even after reboots and such.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] muaddib20:
Just installed 11.19 and getting a force close of inputmethod.Latin. any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
Looks like your latinIME.apk was changed
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
I just installed the 11/19 radio and it works fine, except every time I try to update my PRL the phone (any dialer app, I've tried them all) force-closes. Now, I still have SIGNAL, and I still have 3G service, but is this going to be a problem RIGHT NOW? Just wondering; everything else works fine and I did my homework on this subject, after being yelled at for NOT doing it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] unreal2k:
I updated the radio last night. So far everything seems to be working just fine (GPS, Camera etc.) I will post any issues if i find any, otherwise assume that everything is still ok. Cheers!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] muaddib20:
So just replace it? Why would that be changed after flashing a radio? And after restoring from nand?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] unreal2k:
Just an update on the battery since i know people will be interested. I did notice a better battery life on my phone so far, if i had to estimate probably around 10-15%. I have not changed my habits, rom or kernel. I hope other people are having similar results.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] br125:
the FC is probably rom related and has nothing to do with which radio you are running. That said, updating your PRL is recommended every so often, but it is not required after flashing a radio and chances are if you have updated your PRL recently before you flashed a new radio, you will have the same PRL after *228 (just because you updated your radio does not mean your PRL will change).

So in other words, no, this is not a big deal.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] muaddib20:
Dial *228+