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[EVO 4G Android Development] dthomas03:
Ironic!...I was just looking that up. I think all apple products uses trickle charge after 80%.
[EVO 4G Android Development] OneStepAhead:
how could any of us know the answer to that? a guess would be less safe then the oem battery, although it could also be more safe :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Buy the official Sprint 2600 mAh battery for $55. Yes, it's more expensive than most 3500 mAh batteries, but it comes with 2 back covers (matte black, glossy white) and a 1 year warranty. You can go into the store at any time and exchange it for a new one, no questions asked. Plus the back covers look better than the Seido's:
[EVO 4G Android Development] BAttitude7689:
is it possible to add the "SBC tweak" inside of the newly released kernel

"2.6.32.17 MR3 based kernel by Ziggy471"

this is the latest kernel that is used in all "EViO Series ROM" by Calk

Does anyone have instructions to adding this tweak to other kernels?? or Could someone create it?
[EVO 4G Android Development] anthony92170:
what is the difference with 131 kernel and 132 kernel on evo?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
I feel like such a badass. I tricked Sprint into reimbursing me for the extended battery. Well actually, it was their own fault. I just exploited it:

inb4 "HOLY SH*T! HUGE BILL!", there are 4 lines + we had Canada roaming plan on each for a month.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Admiral2145:
Is there a 4.2.1 cfs bfq more havs sbc v7 floating around somewhere, or does someone have a link?

Tia
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Here you go http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] VDub2174:
It finally happened!! After being off the charger for an hour, my battery is still at 100%!!!!! I'm using 4.1.9.1 v7 with MikFroyo ROM and have SetCPU set to conservative :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smidgers:
I tend to charge my phone while I use it all day at work only, and don't generally need a charger till I get to work the next morning. Are there any issues with using my phone while charging all day with these kernels?
[EVO 4G Android Development] thenewguy821:
Really? did you look at the 2nd post of THIS thread?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ejc1214:
Anyone having a good feedback for v8 beta kernel? I was using #131 and loved it but backed off since a few people are having issues with SBC kernels and I was wondering if this was safer and got good battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jhuff83:
I tried it w/OMJ's rom and got approximately 14 hours out of it with 29% remaining. That was w/19 phone calls, some 4g usage, speed tests, moderate texting, and emails.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
I loaded SBC and my phone tried to sleep with my wife and it drank some of my beer, it has to be sbc!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ejc1214:
Yours too? LOL
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agfadoc:
Yeah mine too, but my wife is a cheep chinese knock off too... what does that mean?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ccossin:
I spoke to a few people about the Shift. Basically, it's a dumbed-down version of the Evo. It may have better battery life due to it's lesser capabilities.

I saw one in the Sprint store yesterday and was underwhelmed.

This has been a telepathic transmission from the Outer Limits.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dthomas03:
I though v8 was only for AOSP Roms. Is there a v8 kernel for Sense?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smidgers:
I installed v8 from the first page using azrael 3.1 (sense). Working great so far. Battery staying cool during use while charging which was my main issue with other sbc versions.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
there are some folks that are using v8 on sense but v8 is primarily for AOSP roms
[EVO 4G Android Development] jhuff83:
I flashed #15 v7 on OMJ's newest rom last night and fully charged the phone while I slept. I have been unplugged for two hours and still have 100% battery. I have woke the phone up several times as well. This might be the kernel for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smidgers:
Is there a version made for sense that uses the v8 charge method?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
nothing wrong with v7 right now
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smidgers:
Isn't v7 also aosp and uses the trickle instead of the auto bump charge method that v8 uses?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
There are versions for both sense and AOSP, use the latest version that applies to your rom
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smidgers:
That doesn't answer whether or not there is a version designed for sense that uses auto bump charging instead of trickle charging.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Socrguru:
Would it be possible to get a copy of the SBC HTC #15 kernel with perflock disabled? So that the collin_ph battery tweak could potentially work?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Admiral2145:
Did ms or anyone do 4.2.1 cfs bfq more sbc? I looked around and still cannot find it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
See here http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] beerad29:
Can't install SBC kernels after update to RA 2.2.1

Is anyone else having issues using the SBC kernels and the new RA 2.2.1? I get the following message

E: missing file:system/xbin/12ping

E: verification failed

Zip verification failed!

Zip isn't signed correctly!

Installation aborted.

Help??
[EVO 4G Android Development] jpmaniac87:
Gotta toggle verification in the flash zips menu before flashing the actual zip. This is everytime you flash from recovery until the next time you reboot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nzaw4:
Wheyou flash from zip , goto toggle signature verification(I think its called that) to disable . Then flash
[EVO 4G Android Development] Admiral2145:
131 = 4.2.1 cfs bfq more sbc

does anyone know the specs on the 131 I search google and couldn't find it....

TIA
[EVO 4G Android Development] kf2m:
Did a little test today to see if this SBC stuff works. Since today was my first day back to work I have a 1:30hr commute each way. All the way to the office I have WinAMP going, 4G enabled, on the 45min train ride I'm surfing XDA (of course), answering emails, and texting. Usually I have had 82-85% left once I get to the office. Running HTC #15 v7 I am happy to report after doing my usual (maybe a bit harder since the train was delayed 20min) routine (did a ROM D/L in the process as well) I still had 95% of my battery left when I got to my office. When I got home (after a full charge) I had 98% (nodded on the ride home, and no delays)

Job well done MS.
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
131 is 4.2.1 cfs bfq more havs-smartass
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
v8 works with sense or aosp and has bump charging. Lots of people using it on sense and aosp and loving it
[EVO 4G Android Development] ccossin:
Here's a screenie from my Evo.

This obviously is with light use.

Here's a screenie of my specifics.

Sprint Lover's ROM, and that's a SBC Kernel.

This has been a telepathic transmission from the Outer Limits.
[EVO 4G Android Development] raiderinks:
I have written up some serious engineering details about this topic in another thread. If you are curious or doubt that using this is safe, check it out.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10530215#post10530215
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Yep. Using 131 or v7 and running my phone in car cradle and charger using a gps program my phone went to over 110 degrees. I was told turn on air to keep it cool. Now with v8 my phone stayed around 80-94 during same use and was cool when I took it out of cradle. It was burning hot with other kernels. I think that tells you that the trickle shouldn't be used.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
Of course it's gonna get hot. Last summer, I made a 10 hr drive to Orlando and enroute, I had my phone on a car charger with GPS, music connected to the car stereo via the headphone jack, wireless tethering for the kid's laptops and the screen on the whole time. I would say that twice, my EVO rebooted because of how hot it got. And yes, the car was fully AC'ed and at the time, it was running a rooted stock Eclair ROM.

So to say it's hot bc of SBC is BS.

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jiggajaydroid:
hey i now you are busy but i was wondering if you would be able to make a 3 app instead of 5. i used it from ava froyo rom and was so smooth would love to have that option in your rom everything else is silky smooth. thank you for all your hard work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kevbonice:
Fresh Evo 3.5.0.1

has anyone tried this kernel with Fresh Evo 3.5.0.1??

thinking about giving it a try, but i wanted to check and see if anyone had any experience with it yet...

thanks!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Smidgers:
Of course its going to get hot when doing all of that. But I agree with the previous poster. When using trickle charge, my battery went above 100 degrees quickly and stayed there (with normal use on charger). With v8, which does not use trickle charge, my phone never got above 100. Not sure if being consistently above 100 is bad for long term battery life or not, but I do think that its pretty obvious that the battery gets hotter during use while trickle charging.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LudoGris:
Any chance of getting v8 on the Sense Kernels?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
v8 works on sense
[EVO 4G Android Development] tpdtopcop:
where can you get V8?
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Ms has been told to take them down - if you would like to try them i believe go to the op link to his github.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Well actually, nobody has told me to take them down...yet...but I see it coming :/

Might as well take them down now though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
its a shame that this turned into the salem witch trials. If there is ways to improve the code, lets do it. All i have seen is folks spout off about their qualifications and what they do for a living yada yada instead of reviewing the code and attempting to collaborate to improve.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agfadoc:
Good to see you back man. A few people can cause a riot, can't they..

I still run it and charge all the time. I have the best chargers and batteries available though, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it.

I appreciate your efforts and hope to see you stay in the game, not necessarily SBC, but whatever you choose to do for the community.

Thanks Bro!
[EVO 4G Android Development] blackroseMD1:
Seriously? What the hell?

There has been absolutely no damage to my battery, and I've gotten amazing battery life with these kernels.

Anybody have any proof that this was bad, or just summations based on their qualifications?
[EVO 4G Android Development] CEspaillat:
This is unbelievable!!! I've been using the kernel since it came out and have not had a single problem with the phone. Runs great and has NEVER over heated. Sorry MS. Sucks to hear that all your hard work isn't appreciated.... =(
[EVO 4G Android Development] V1cmlb:
What happen I was about to d.load and everything vanished
[EVO 4G Android Development] jonlee83:
Hey Webguru sorry for the late response.

This might also be helpful

http://home.comcast.net/~evobenchers/

click on kernel download/voting on the left side
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agfadoc:
Fricken saftey zelots.. The same ones who sit at PTA meetings and spew their BS about how little johnny can't play on the monkey bars becuase they are dangerous.. and then complain that they are called monkey bars, and we certainly can't allow them to carry their books due to back strain.

Remember when you could use bottle rockets? But there was always one dummy who couldn't rationalize that you shouldn't point it at another kids face, so they ban them for everyone.... But wait you can still get them? And the same dummy would get them illegally and do it again...

Ban glass bottles, ban everything!! Ahhhhhhh!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Admiral2145:
SBC FTW

I bet the people with the charging problem had cheap batteries... but no matter what Im sticking with sbc with my seidio 3500 battery... and I have almost every build from 130 to v7.... sbc is the best kernel I have ever ran.... MS great job.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
here is a post from the savage thread
[EVO 4G Android Development] blackroseMD1:
That's what I'm betting too. I have the same battery as you, and it's given me no problems at all with SBC. Definitely the best kernel I've ever used.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
daddy cant eat steak because baby cant chew, damn censor witches. I want my sbc even if it harms my phone, it's my choice
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
SORRY MS - I ASSUMED ...

ive been running the sbc since arrival ! .. no issues no overheat .. only time i monitored it getting hot (because monitoring any new tweak on the device is needed no matter what) was when i was USING THE PHONE NON STOP WHILE ON THE CHARGER ... so i stopped . seems to me like battery blow up and smoking has something to to with people not understanding the battery itselt and that they never noticed that the battery when the phone was in stock form actually got hot while on the charger to begin with - and yet instead quick to blame! . if your phone got hot - continue to use it???? NOOOOOO FLASH ANOTHER ONE.. MONITOR THEN FLASH AGAIN (TRIAL AND ERROR)

thanks again for your stride in improving or batteries charge.

i will still use the sbc#15
[EVO 4G Android Development] Agfadoc:
It appears that the protection police is saying Savage kernel with SBC is the player of the week. er.. problem.. or so they tell him..

Knee Jerk reactions is what is destroying our society, unitl they shut this whole site down because someone somewhere had a problem.

They came first for the Communists,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,

and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me

and by that time no one was left to speak up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] GadgetMonger:
Why take them down? Just put a disclaimer in the op like every other mod or rom on XDA and call it good. :D

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE! :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
I think this is total BS. Its a persons choice if they want to use the kernel or not. If the people that dont like them think they hurt their phones, then dont use them but I for one think they are safe and will keep using them because they actually WORK! Thanks again MS for all the work and I hope you get the green light to keep running with these kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
never any troubles from SBC sucks !
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
guys relax, toast posted PM'd a AOSP kernel dev that made SBC kerenls and all that is required is a disclaimer, these should be back
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
Could someone help me out and PM me the v8 with bump charge kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ceger:
Everyone on this site assumes self responsibility using anything they download from here. If they want things safe, then they need to stick to unrooted phones and only installing what is provided to them via the market. The big problem here is those folks that do not know how to read, do not understand what development community means, do not know how to tinker with their phones and ultimately DO NOT ASSUME ANY RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS (it is always someone else's fault).

Argh!!!! :mad:

I vote that the kernels be put back up!

Ceger
[EVO 4G Android Development] Unknownforce:
Well, they seem to steal everything else from us here :)

We saw that with the FPS unlock... "The FPS is hardware capped at 30 fps." -> XDA Unlocks it -> Sprint releases patch "fixing" the FPS lock :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] HTCRALEIGHFAN:
just installed this with myn warm 2.2 rls4 and so far so good!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sultan.of.swing:
Sweet, and based off my favorite kernel too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Of course :) I'm trying to throw some stuff together for the next build that will be different from the first and benefit all. If I cant get it in a few hours then I'll just put together the non-havs version of this for ya.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I set a cap so that it would hang around 4190 and below. When the charger stays on 4200 it raises the temp a lot. With it around 4190 the temp is reasonable, so when you take it off the charger it'll hold the charge a lot longer than if you took it off at 4200.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I'd love to put it on CM6 too. I can do it one of two ways. I can either 1) grab a kernel, grab it's .config file and then apply the fix from its source. or 2) Make my own kernel.

I would love to do option 2, but I havent figured out how to make the config file from scratch yet >.<
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
i hope so, HTC would be fools not to incorporate it since the HTC is a thoroughbred for them
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
im game for 1 or 2 :P
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Which kernel are you on right now?
[EVO 4G Android Development] wampuscat:
Makes perfect sense,Thanks .is there many things you'll have to edit to get one for the 3500. Just curious how many lines in there look at that
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
one that is with Cm6.1
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I'm not sure yet, I have an idea....but that means I'll have to rewrite all the percent values. I tried doing this a few days ago and it worked...sorta. But it did in fact mess with battery indicator pro and our battery icons >.< so I just gotta find the magic numbers. I think that if I set my own values for the battery icons for roms that dont have the percentage numbers in them, then it should be good.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wampuscat:
does that mean you couldn't have circle battery mod, it it'd mess it up
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Aiight, I'll take a look that in a bit.

Probably..Well, im not that sure. The thing that sucks about our battery driver is that there are two ways it grabs information. It grabs info from SMEM_BATT and M2A_RPC, and I'm not sure which one is above the other because they both display the same thing. But I know for a fact I only need to edit one of them (which I think is M2A_RPC) for extended batteries...but another problem with that is that I can't edit those values directly, I have to use SMEM_BATT (which will edit both of them). So idk, I'll try just editing SMEM_BATT first, which shouldnt mess with the battery mod.

Update: I've managed to slow down the drainage a lot! Usually we lose 140-200mah once we hit 100%, now I'm only losing 10-50mah. That's a good thing :D unfortunately, In this build I also turned off the option to turn the charger back on >.< ( I think..OS monitor is showing that the charger is being turned on and off still :/) So we'll see what happens in a bit. And this is with the screen off, I'm still trying to go against this damn screen off nonsense.

update: While sleeping I'm only losing 5-8mah, this is insane.
[EVO 4G Android Development] subminimal:
what program is pictured?
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
GoodSuff !!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dwertz:
is there any chance to get a tun.ko with this for VPN users? Thanks in advanced
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
battery monitor widget
[EVO 4G Android Development] Unknownforce:
No rush or anything, lol... I just had to ask if you were going to make some options when you got it a little more "finalized"

I look forward to the finished product :)

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bugzy113:
I too look foward to the Finished product... Although the WIP is awesome so far...
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
well are you overclocked in setCPU?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
haha, thanks for setting me straight:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
update: Workin on an AOSP kernel right now
[EVO 4G Android Development] flight01:
I flashed this kernel and everything works. But my camera quality sucks now and the screen twitches out and acts weird when trying to use camera. Does this kernel not support 3.30.651.3 software/003 hd/kernel #17 ? I believe i have the new camera chipset if that makes a difference.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
your a machine, i donated and liked it haha

if you are HW3 i believe you don't have the newest camera chipset, any more details on what you did etc?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ccossin:
Settings => Applications => Development => Stay Awake while charging (uncheck this) It is possible some of you may have this checked and it is keeping your device awake.

Sent from my... Who gives a frak?
[EVO 4G Android Development] flight01:
Went into recovery wiped, flashed kernel, rebooted and thats it. Then i went to check the usual stuff to make sure it works. Checked data,wifi, 4g and everything worked. Then went to test camera and starts twitching out, showing crazy vertical green lines and the quality sucks bad.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I feel like a machine. I only got to sleep for 3 hours because I wanted to wake up early to respond to the comments in here and see the feedback. I kinda wish I got more sleep now, I have to work from 5pm to 1am >.<
[EVO 4G Android Development] minieod:
because this is a place to help people out - not be rude...

nothing worse than "use the search, idiot!" people....sometimes people don't have the time to read a huge thread to find an answer.... there are some threads that i actively follow (like cm6 thread) that have over 2000 pages, where pages zoom by the 10's in minutes...

instead of just being rude about it: dont say anything, or post something constructive...

otherwise you are providing nothing to the community but an annoyance and resentment...and clogging up a thread.

the end.

edit: sorry OP ms for clogging the thread now - i found the answer when you posted for me, and i appreciate your help and your work...its good stuff, i just flashed - will post about my results
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
I don't have set cpu at anything.

Haven't set it up yet.

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bignibb:
Since there is now a no hav version up, do we think this could work with cauklins battery tweak?
[EVO 4G Android Development] minieod:
im about to try it, will let you know. (using frost 3.4)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
i think the havs would interfere with the tweak, but if you do try it NAND first
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
It should work. This kernel is exactly the same as netarchy's 4.2.1 kernels until you get to the charging aspect.
[EVO 4G Android Development] minieod:
havs would not interfere with a nohavs version...theres is no havs
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
update: hit a roadblock on this AOSP one. I tried pulling from cyanogen's github but he must be editing something at the moment because something is broken and is causing compile errors. So AOSP gonna have to sit tight until I get home late night, flash an AOSP rom, pull the config and use a kernel source other than stock CM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] snrbobo:
is there any way you could do this tweak to one of kings kernels? Reason being...my phone doesn't ever drop below 998mhz when running ANY of the net kernels. :( i can't figure out why this is happening. the temp isn't rising, but the cpu is stuck at 998mhz. this is also when idle as well.

here is what i have:

myns rls4

baseband and everything else all up to date.

HELP! lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] minieod:
ms - not sure if this is just a naming problem

but i flashed 132 on 2 phones so far, and both are coming up in software information as:

2.6.32.25-netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-cfs-bfq-havs-more-smartass

not sure if the file was loaded wrong, but it appears to be havs
[EVO 4G Android Development] flight01:
Ok so now the vertical green twitchy lines are gone from the camera but the quality of the pictures is still not good
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
its the modified kernel, I'm showing the same in software