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[G Tablet General] Lnin0:
I got mine site unseen and also struggled with all the negativity before opening it. I finally broke down and gave it a go and can say I really love the device. Sure, the screen is probably its weakest link but far from the bleek picture painted in most reviews.

I guess many sites are holding the Gtab up to iPad standards. The screen is just a regular old netbook LCD. Viewing angles are made for landscape and looking down at 45 degrees. Everything outside that is pretty poor but typically that is how I hold the thing and the viewing angle doesn't bother me. Portrait is another story and if you want this thing to be an e-book reader (or anything) in that form factor then you will be sorely disappointed.
[G Tablet General] Canadoc:
Viewing angle sucks big time and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify and otherwise good amchine they purchase and spent a lot of time getting to work properly.

It is a pain to type on in any kind of angle as the most comfortable angles make screen look negative polarity.

For straight on viewing I agree it's nice
[G Tablet General] mspkash1:
I just got mine in sears with a 5% discount off of $379. I know the stock rom is junk and I dont even care as i'll flash it with vegan or tnt. I am trying hard to like the screen. In portrait mode, when viewing web pages, the text is alright but the pictures have this solarizing effect which I am not able to get over with.. darn.. why didnt they put a good screen on this otherwise a good power house.. will play around lil bit before deciding if i should keep it or send her back
[G Tablet General] junks2010:
Hi Guys,

Are all variants of the Malata tablet (including the GTablet) have the same LCD screen? I want a 10" Tegra 2 tablet with a better screen.

Thanks.
[G Tablet General] cyberbillp:
You HAVE to have a different screen than the one I got. I can't get it to go negative no matter what angle I turn it too. The wife and I browsed the web for hours tonight and it worked perfectly, the viewing angle is much better than her hp laptop.
[G Tablet General] WickedStyx:
Maybe different batches have different screens. Mine is terrible if I hold it in portrait and look at it straight on. I have to tilt it to one side to make it usable unless it's completely dark.
[G Tablet General] shanghei:
My gtab has same problem in portrait.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
You mind telling us where you got the GTab, and when? And your model # on the box? I wouldn't discount the possibility that you might have slightly different device than the rest of us.

I know that bekit had gotten a device that had different partitions than the "norm" - maybe the LCD is different, as well. All speculation, of course.
[G Tablet General] eviltuna:
The viewing angle was the only thing I was worried about on this device prior to purchase as this was the main complaint, but after receiving it, its not as bad as some people made it to be, really some people are just really picky. I'm usually really anal about these things too but it is really not that bad.
[G Tablet General] Canadoc:
Ditto whoever says it is good must own a white and orange cane
[G Tablet General] xenx:
There's a difference between good and good enough. The screen is good enough. Could be better, but works fine. I think most "positive" responses are of similar mind.
[G Tablet General] Talldog02:
My workaround is to place a gum eraser underneath the top of the unit when I'm using it at the kitchen counter. The extra 1 1/2" of tilt helps viewing and the eraser doesn't slip.

An annoyance but definitely not a show stopper for me....
[G Tablet General] radfreak:
Can someone post a picture of what this viewing angle issue. I see so many references too it, bit I can't get a good visual of what people are taking about
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Here you go. Straight on:

And then an extreme tilt:

(extreme just to show the drastic change). It starts becoming unreadable after less than 45 degrees, when you tilt it clockwise. There is a solarization effect, the same thing occurs on my netbook screen.
[G Tablet General] bosbrucec:
Viewing angles with pictures

I took a few pics of the g Tablet home screen in front of a mirror to show the very odd behavior of the viewing angle problem (I tried to get about a 45 degree angle on it).

Basically, the image only fades gradually as you go past 90 degrees in one direction, but fades to very dark very quickly in the other (when holding it in wide mode). What this means is basically you can't put it flat on a table/desk/lap in horizontal, webcam-up mode and use it without leaning forward to almost be on top of it (or propping it up at an angle).

And it seems this would be the most common use case so if the viewing angle were reversed it would be fine. Of course you could hold it upside down and it will auto-rotate *for most apps*. But dashboard won't rotate and even "classic" won't rotate and I don't see a setting for that with Viewsonic's dumbed down option list. Also the Android navigation bars would then be in a very odd place and without backlighting a pain to find.

Is it possible someone just put these screens in upside down? The accelerometer apparently is off by 90 degrees from standard (though works fine for software using the correct APIs) so why not have the screen off 180 degrees? :)

The viewing angles from the sides aren't bad at all, and you can see it is the same from either side rather than the dramatic difference in the other direction.

Do my images match what others are seeing, or do I have an anomalous unit?

Cheers,

Bruce
[G Tablet General] stcardinal:
I don't get why anyone would want to read anything at an angle anyway. From the screens they look pretty good.
[G Tablet General] tyy10002:
Someone has mentioned that we cannot flip the screen due to the physical hardware issue. Do a search. Viewing from sides are fine in landscape. The viewing issues are very common in android tablets execpt the galaxy tab and nook color. Ideos7, archos have similar display issue. I just checked out in a local bestbuy store.
[G Tablet General] Neoprimal:
I don't really understand either. I mean, I don't sit a magazine, novel or comic on a desk and try to read it at an angle. I certainly don't watch movies in portrait mode, so that's not an issue for me.

I'd love to know why in detail too. Unless 3 people are sharing it and 2 people can't see from the sides, then I'd totally get it.

Where I DO see an issue, and pretty much the only time, is when I'm trying to read a web page in portrait mode (which is rare) and I have it set to auto brightness. Then it feels like I'm trying to watch a 3D movie without the glasses - if that makes sense. Kinda, tickles my eyeballs :) But even then, if I crank the display to full it's fine. Other than that, it's a fine e-reader when viewed as you would view print material.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
G-sensor just got fixed -- with that in mind, this is where you'll notice it the most (playing games where you are tilting the device around).

EDIT: Not exactly fixed. Broken games are better, games that were working might be broken. Oh my.
[G Tablet General] orangezero:
I find it slightly irritating. Even the opening gtablet image on bootup looks pretty bad just by rotating it around a little. I don't think it is a deal killer.

But you had it right. Portrait mode looks like garbage, especially when reading comic books. Less so for ebooks but still a problem.

Straight on with no movement, I think the screen is about the best I've ever used for a portable device.
[G Tablet General] y0chang:
I've gotten use to the viewing angle but also its much more apparent on dark colors like trailers. Its just a limitation of the polarizing screen and the TN panel. Its exactly like most laptop/netbook displays. My guess is that viewsonic grabbed the panel from a supplier that supplies 10 inch netbooks. I find it best to lie down and prop up my legs to support it to a similar angle to a laptop. Also turning down the screen brightness also seem to help reduce the negative color shifting.
[G Tablet General] LuisB3:
I also get a little annoyed at times with the viweing angles but definitely not a deal breaker. So what is the consensus for screen brightness setting? Should we go with auto-brightness or full or half-way? Just trying to get an opinion on the best setting for the G Tab.
[G Tablet General] Neoprimal:
Don't think there is a 'best' setting. In landscape mode I leave it at auto and that works for everything. In portrait mode almost all my ebooks either switch it to full bright on their own or brighten it somehow - maybe the white background helps? With comics and magazines in PDF, I view it at full brightness. I don't watch movies in portrait mode, so I don't know about that. If there's neg. color shifting or whatever at full brightness, then I would surmise the best thing to do is try going down from full to something readable and if it's not readable at all then landscape mode it is!
[G Tablet General] danielzen:
For a great replacement lancher that rotates every way, download ADWlauncher from the market. It comes standard with CyanogenMod these days, but I'm running VEGAn-tab beta4 and the launcher wont rotate with the camera on the bottom.

Was going to post about viewing angles and laying the gtab flat in landscape and found this thread.

Sometimes when I'm watching a video without a stand, I lay it flat and everything goes dark.

Wanted to rotate the screen 180 degrees to take advantage of the superior viewing angle capabilities when the tablet is flat in front of me landscape with the camera on the bottom, but the video was now upside down.

Anybody know which video player with divx ability will let me rotate video 180 degrees, or any chance the default Movie app in VEGAn will gain this ability. Where is the official place to make such a suggestion?

Finally, Im finding the Contact app in VEGAn is landscape only? This surprised me because if you were going to lock the orientation for the contact app, i would have chosen portrait.

In my opinion, ideal functionality would be achieved by having every application be capable of 360 degree rotation, and being able to lock & unlock the rotation at any orientation.

I'm guessing honeycomb will fix a lot of this... but that's probably a season away...

zen
[G Tablet General] bosbrucec:
No one is *trying* to read at an angle, but physics dictate sometimes you can't be 90 degrees over the unit. The problem with this screen is getting only 10 degrees off from perpendicular when in landscape mode has the most dramatic drop-off of any LCD screen I've seen. *Ever*.

I think I know where this screen came from... a digital photo display, which is *always* propped up at an angle, and usually from a counter/table where people taller than 4' will always be viewing it at *higher* than 90 degrees when close to the display so it works fine. With this tablet the reverse holds unless you always prop it up or lean too far over top of it (the latter being rather bad for the back).

There's no doubt one could hold it and get a good image out of it... the question is whether one could live with it on a daily basis in the various positions it might end up in, and the jury is still out on that one for me.

I bought mine knowing it had a viewing angle problem but figured it probably sucked uniformly at more than 25 degrees in any direction, but now I see it is horrible at more than 10 degrees in the most likely direction to be off, albeit not such a rapid drop off in other directions.

I love the CPU, RAM, ... specs of this beast, but this display, the broken bluetooth (can't use with wifi!), the software issues that make this powerhouse seem slower than much lesser devices,... have me leaning toward returning it...
[G Tablet General] bosbrucec:
Good analysis ... BTW, I haven't seen a great comparison of ups/downs of TnT, CM, etc... (though I read somewhere that CM is rather outdated compared to TnT recently), much less either compared to Viewsonic's latest update which apparently improves many things. And I was quite let down when I did the Froyo update on my Archos 70 it, so even though I'm comfortable with reformat/reinstall firmware type operations, I'm just not sure I want to start playing with these really great efforts by xda-developers (no matter how good these guys are, they can't possibly have a fully staffed QA team testing large numbers of apps on each new release). Care to share some analysis or forward good pointers on what led you to choose CM (and what VEGAn is)?

I think the real issue here is that we are all playing with software and hardware that isn't quite right yet... If we enjoy the tinkering it's all great, but at some point for some of us it stops being so much fun and at that point the toys need to go back. :(

Certainly by the time Honeycomb is released there will be better and cheaper hardware than this tablet, and Viewsonic will have their engineers working on newer hardware rather than giving free updates to us old customers. Even likely xda-developers will lose interest in obsolete hardware not too far down the road... So the argument that this tablet is "future proof" because it has such a great CPU/GPU, so much RAM,... doesn't quite hold up IMO.
[G Tablet General] cuzzinz:
Tegra hardware has been around for a while and based on current unreleased phones and tablets the statement that the gtab is "future proof" it is the most accurate for the electronics world.

It has taken a while for manufactures to even start using the tegra2 hardware...and now that they are we probably wont see a new generation of hardware till q3 or q4 and it probably wont be released till ... dare I say it lol ...2012.

No computer technology is "future" proof" cause there is always something new. An extended life cycle is as close to future proof that it gets lol.

As for cheaper devices with better hardware ...that will be a longggg time. Lol. They gotta make some money before they release some affordable devices.
[G Tablet General] neonstorm:
Just picked up a G-Tablet at OD a couple of days ago after seeing it in-store and Googling "G-Tablet root" to make sure it was opened up.

The viewing angle is pretty bad on my device. If I hold it and view straight on, the "solarization" occurs very noticably and is very distracting. I actually have to tilt the bottom away from me (in landscape) to get a clear picture! Unfortunately, as much as I want to love this device, it has to go back to the store. As others mentioned before, in portrait I can look at the screen dead on, and close one eye then the other and see the colors change. Disappointing (and somewhat surprising) from Viewsonic with their history of good displays.

Maybe I'll hold off *a tad* to see where the replacement LCD process goes... When back from vacation, I will post some pics.

**edit***

Attached pics. Sorry for crappy quality/composition.

Shown straight on in portrait and landscape, plus from both sides in portrait, and angled (on my lap) in landscape.

Call me obsessive, call me OCD... but the viewing angles are too poor for my tastes. I'm going to ride by Office Depot to see if they'll let me eyeball any other G-Tabs (I know the technology guys, hopefully they won't mind breaking a seal or two on new ones) and see if there is any variation.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafiaboy01:
Hi, I just purchased a Desire Z from bell. I'm using it on telus so its unlock and I'm seeming to have very weak signal.

I have a suspicion that it is only using the 1900 frequency as that doesn't penetrate into my basement as well.

Is there any ways to check this?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theXeffect:
fix ur apn google "apn for____"

example apn for us t-mobile

hope this help
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafiaboy01:
Apn in CM nightly seems to be correct, ill double check but it seems good.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mafiaboy01:
Apn is good, any other ideas?
[Vibrant General] Segnaro:
http://twitter.com/supercurio

Just happened. :cool:
[Vibrant General] richiehd:
I'm in the IRC! This is exciting.
[Vibrant General] richiehd:
YES!

10chars
[Vibrant General] Segnaro:
What's the channel and server? :D
[Vibrant General] ndwgs:
Lol, its funny, he was shaking so bad that he shook the battery out of his phone... Got 20 smooth seconds of seeing Ginger on his Sgs.....

Sent from the helm of darkness called, the "Vibrant Galaxy"... Using the XDA App!
[Vibrant General] anthonys2r:
Excellent
[Vibrant General] ultra spikey:
I may be out of the loop, but as of right now, I thought there was no way to port a Galaxy S rom to the Vibrant. If that's the case, does that mean no port of Gingerbread?
[Vibrant General] Segnaro:
Eugene has modified kernels before to get i9000 roms to work on Vibrant.
[Vibrant General] Master™:
Really?

Galaxy S includes several devices

Fascinate

I9000

Vibrant

Captivate

and some more...

How do you think we got our first FroYo? We took it from the I9000
[Vibrant General] dumbkkid:
if its ported to the vibrant...

no 720p recording? o_o
[Vibrant General] ndwgs:
Lmao.... "Really?"

Anyway on to the subject, at least he is making progress by getting ginger even to boot up to sgs! Can't wait for his video

Sent from the helm of darkness called, the "Vibrant Galaxy"... Using the XDA App!
[Vibrant General] ultra spikey:
By Galaxy S, I meant I9000...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ke4peo:
Hey all,

I tried searching the forums and the Wiki but didn't see anything quite relating to what I'm trying to figure out.

I just got my hands on an HD2, previously I have a MyTouch 3G. I'm wondering if there is a way to move over my text (SMS) and MMS messages from the Android MyTouch 3G to the WM6.5 HD2?

The only way I could think of right now would be to use Sprite back up on both and do it that way, but I don't feel like shelling out $5 for the Android version and $30 for the WM version.

Any suggestions?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wilwilwel:
a way to do this (NOT THE BEST WAY)

- is backingup the sms/mms messages to your SD card

- add the sd card to your HD2 and copy a andriod port on you sd card

- with the dualboot to Android you can import the messages again.

now if you need you older messages .. just booti into Android and your set

maybe you can find a good backup application for android on appmarket (google it, download on your pc and drop on your sd card and install on your phone) now all paid apps are free to get

for WinMo you can use Omarket
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tmihai20:
I saved my messages on the SIM card, then I moved them from the SIM in Windows. I do not know of a cross-platform backup software :) Yet
[Android Software Development] ronnie301184:
I'm currently writing an app that requires my phone to be detected by another device as a HID keyboard via bluetooth. I'm finding ALOT of info on connecting HID devices to the phone, but I'm trying to do the opposite. Connect my phone as a HID device to something else, for example, use my phone's keyboard on another device which doesn't have it's own keyboard.

An example of this would be bluemaemo: http://www.valeriovalerio.org/?page_id=174

That's only for select nokia phone's though. Is there anything like this or is it possible to implement this functionality somehow?

Also I'm using the Galaxy S I9000, just in case that has different limitations that stock android builds.

I'm still sort of new to developing so excuse my ignorance.
[Nexus S General] umbrae:
Hi, everyone!

So today I noticed there is a strange horizontal line, 1 pixel wide, across my screen.

The line is only visible when displaying white colors... it is slightly brighter than the rest of the screen.

http://imgur.com/a/3X9AK

The last photo is the best representative of my situation. What do you guys think? It's not obnoxious or anything, but I just don't know if this is an early sing of dead-pixels or what.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Wow take it back lol It will probably short in a month or so
[Nexus S General] DarkAgent:
I agree. Take it back, regardless of if it bothers you or not.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drew11:
I just got Chis's GB rom and as usual it is lacking Google apps, I understand that I must flash them or use adb push, but every time i try adb push it never works!!

I copy the apk files and paste it under androidsdk/tools

then i go to command: cd\androidSDK\tools\adb push androidmarket.apk /system/app/.

then when it should show the file size and download time, it just says directory not found, I've watched tons of tuts, but it does the same every time. What am I doing WRONG!?!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drew11:
and i know i spelled gingerbread wrong, sorry!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gullygossner:
try

cd {path to your android sdk tools} (just drag it to your terminal) enter

androidSDK/tools/ adb root enter

androidSDK/tools/ adb push {path to your .apk, again just drag} /system/app/ enter

it should push then, where did you download the latest gapps from?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drew11:
I picked them up from the cyanogen guys, u cant flash them all as u normally would because you will get a boot loop.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drew11:
I tried this method, but for some reason adb is acting up because almost everything i do it says "permission denied" :(
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
You need to mount the file system as rw first.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drew11:
thanks to both of you guys, i successfully pushed the market on the nexus, however, IT KEEPS CRASHING!!!! It truly never ends! any ideas for this one?
[Galaxy Tab General] tabing:
Preinstalled asphalt demo was working but then i purchased asphalt from market but when i run app it download some stuff and after download finiished it crashes. What should i do now? I deleted preinstalled demo by rooting and all files on sd card but it's still not working. Please give advice. Thanks
[Galaxy Tab General] le3ky:
I dont think the market version is compatible with the tab
[Galaxy Tab General] Radical-J:
I had purchased Asphalt on my Evo and downloaded it to my SGT and that version does not work with the SGT. You have to go to www.gameloft.com and download Asphalt HD. It looks and works great.
[Galaxy Tab General] tabing:
I went to gameloft website and it says "Sorry, Asphalt 5 HD is not available for your phone at the moment" will the Samsung GT-P1000 Galaxy Tab version work with t mobile tab version. asphalt hd Samsung GT-P1000 Galaxy Tab version is available on gameloft.
[Galaxy Tab General] zoey:
Delete the demo system app and system/lib/asphalt5.so then install asphalt hd from the market
[Galaxy Tab General] natious:
what he said.

after i removed the demo the HD version worked fine, but nfs shift is better and its only $1 somthing
[Galaxy Tab General] synplex:
Works

I can also confirm that this works.

Make sure you bought the Samsung P-1000 edition of the game from gamelofts site for Samsung tab P1000 games.The market version wont work.

(click this linkon your tab)

Link to Samsung P1000 Gameloft Site: http://wapshop.gameloft.com/php5/us...efer%3DWIFI&sv5551=f1725923d8d3a590a1d6&c=223

If you did buy the market version call their customer care number@ 1-800-910-3186 and ask them to send you the P1000 version, and if you complain enough they'll offer you a free game too! :D

*The only problem is hold times are crazy*

By the way I can confirm that the follow Gameloft games work on my Tmobile SGT:

Uno HD

Asphalt 5

GT Racing

Hero of sparta

Nova

Spider-Man HD

Gangstar

Dungeon Hunter HD

Lets golf HD
[Galaxy Tab General] tabing:
zoey and synplex both you guys solved my issue. Deleting asphalt from system worked.

Thanks kudos to you guys.