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[EVO 4G Android Development] Undef:
v7 (trickle charge) vs v8 (bump charge)

MS,

I ran v8 overnight, and decided to go back to v7. Personally, I don't like the way bump charging behaves.

It could be nothing more than aesthetics, and I certainly don't have solid knowledge of lithium-ion battery behavior, or charge/discharge characteristics. But, the graph looks wrong. Big oscillations from positive to negative *feel* like the stock behavior, only faster.

This is, of course, a benevolent dictatorship, not a democracy. But if you offered a vote, I would vote for trickle, not bump.

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On another note, I have confirmed your earlier find that booting to recovery seems to "reset" the voltage reading. As an experiment, I charged (v7) to full, letting the trickle dwindle to very little, then booted to recovery and back, to register the "real" battery voltage. That allowed another half-hour or so of charging, similar to the previous advice for how to fully charge the EVO battery (charge, unplug, plug, unplug, plug, etc.).

After a couple cycles of letting the charge go as high as it thought it could, then boot, then charge some more, the voltage at first unplug rose.

4028 first time unplugged. Rebooted (to recovery), then charged some more

4116 when unplugged. Rebooted again, left it plugged in at boot and saw

4122 at last unplug

Is it possible there is still some "conditioning" needed, even with trickle charging in place?
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
Got it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
Probably something close. For batteries I don't trust anything not seidio, but that's personal preference.
[EVO 4G Android Development] retnuh730:
Another banner day with this kernel + Mik's Froyo 4.1. Its crazy to think that this phone is faster than ever, WITH SENSE, and getting crazy good battery life still. I am a believer that mods can do anything now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ZEDEK:
Peace All,

ms79723...maybe I missed this in previous posts, but do you plan on doing any BFS SBC kernels? They seem to work best on my phone---although the 4.2.2 CFS is doing well also---I guess I'd prefer BFS

Thanks in Advance

-ZDK-
[EVO 4G Android Development] mylasthope:
So I just flashed 4.2.2 nonhavs, but under software it says "2.6.32-27-SBC-net-4.2.2-more-havs." Is that normal? I dled it twice to double check.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
The thing is, BestBuy also has the exact same cases from Seido, just branded as "platinum". The prices are the same, so I'm assuming that same design/same price, but sold from a respectable company like BB = same product.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jasonl99:
With all due respect, I thought this thread was about fixing what as broken? Judging from the posts on this thread, there are clearly a number of people here who can't charge via USB on this kernel. USB charging works fine on the standard kernel. So there is a very high likelihood that this can be fixed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] toneman1984:
if I have an extended battery should I still expect to see roughly 4195 mv being "fully charged" (in battery widget) or should the number be higher because the battery is larger?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ebuechler3:
I was having the same problem thr past couple days... I thought my problem was the new radio, wimax combo, my apps, or my rom...And ive tried 5 roms these past 2 days!. It wasnt any of those.. My evo is an old 0002 hardware, and it only plays well with sbc 4191 version 5... Version 7 which is the latest does a few bad things to my phone.. It drains the battery fast, and doesnt play my vids well, and I cant download big files with 4191 ver7.... Since I went back to 4191ver5, my evo has great battery life and Everything is working perfect.. My conclusion is different versions of sbc are compatible with different hardware numbered phones!
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
i just did the same, but i recall reading in here that it is indeed the nonhavs file that you installed. the kernel version name is incorrect.

funny - i just sent ms a pm asking him to confirm that, 20 seconds before i saw your post.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cavediver:
I installed the less-havs this morning and mine says the same "more". I have no idea what's really installed on my phone?
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
You have the less havs version if that's what you flashed...MS just didn't change the version it would read in the system...but rest assured you have the correct one

Sent from my Warm EVO :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
Hey MS

I am running Myns beta atm and I am running SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.2.1 (aka 131) 131.zip (2.91 MB)

It is really running well...I had tried 4.2.2 Agressive prior and charging was a distaster with -mA even prior to getting to 100%

With the current SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.2.1 (aka 131) 131.zip (2.91 MB) I am 2 hours past hitting 100% and the mA are back and forth between +0 and +2.

THanks for all of your hard work on these!

eins
[EVO 4G Android Development] ccossin:
If you look on the bottom of the packaging it says Seidio right on it. So, YES it IS a Seidio. Just "rebranded."

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[EVO 4G Android Development] ccossin:
As far as these "can I use this kernel with" questions the answer to all is YES.

All you have to do is determine if your ROM is SENSE or AOSP. Those are the only two options.

When you know this then you download the kernel version which is appropriate to your ROM (ie SENSE or AOSP).

I didn't mean this to sound harsh. I hope it clears things up for y'all.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
I miss that show, the twilight zone, and amazing stories. I think I will have a Retro day over the break. :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] ccossin:
I just got done with a marathon viewing session. Had to get my fix.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Flush2810:
so can we use this with cm 6.1.1 yet? i read up to page 60 and just want a quick yes or no answer please and thank you =)
[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
Yes...long as you use the ASOP kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] Flush2810:
sorry for the noob question lol but which one is that one? lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] tb87:
Last two posted
[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
Seriously...The two under the title ASOP Builds on the first page
[EVO 4G Android Development] Flush2810:
got it thanks do i need to wipe anything before i flash?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
Cache and dalvik is recommended, depends on your current config though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Flush2810:
thanks and sorry for the dumb questions
[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
NP...pay it forward
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Cache and Dalvik are REQUIRED to be wiped when swapping kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
how much??
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
i just dont know what it is with the v7 4.22, that one time i was getting 24hrs out of the battery, now it seems like im getting 16 hours or less... battery droppage is pretty quick after it falls from 100%

keep in mind that it was at 100% for 2 hours and 10 minds...

after that within 20 mins of basically non usage it was already 95-96% :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
I don't know about that. It probably is a good idea, but I didn't wipe either when I flashed my first kernel, and it ran perfectly. Of course, like I said, it's probably for the best to wipe both caches, and I wipe both whenever I flash kernels now. Just playing devil's advocate and sharing my experience.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Remember, this mod isn't necessarily going to improve overall battery performance. Its only purpose is to eliminate the 10% drop when you disconnect from the charger. It takes longer to drop below 100%, but after that, it should drain like normal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
You don't have to but beware
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Honestly, I only posted that because he emphasized the word "required". I can be kind of pedantic, especially when I'm bored.
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
yea i get that, its just that its been better then this... it just really irritates the hell out of me, it really shouldnt since im basically near charger access ALL DAY but still, the battery thing drives me nuts.

im thinking of just getting the 3500 and saying screw it.

lol it may in the end give me my sanity and my life back :p:p
[EVO 4G Android Development] newbapotamous:
so...

Like everyone else, I opted to give 131 a shot, but had a terrible experience with it. Soon after, I somehow ended up on 4.1.9.1 non-havs and was getting an average of 22 hours of use for my needs. I've decided to go beyond that and try out 4.2.2 More Havs and see how that works out. My biggest problem with 131 were some serious issues when going from screen off to receiving a call - virtually unusable. Lets see how this works.

FYI - I ran the previous 2 naked on Set CPU, so no profiles and no fidgeting...just the kernel as is. On Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS 4 with a couple of things here and there. I guess I'll drop my 2 cents on how 4.2.2 works out after a few days.

Thanks for listening to a bum like me.

pussied out at the last minute - sticking with 4.1.9.1...why ruin a good thing
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
I didn't have any issues with the screen off with or without cpu installed
[EVO 4G Android Development] newbapotamous:
must have just been me. i guess my phone decided to be special...ed...

anyways, i've opted out of 4.2.2 and decided to stay with 4.1.9.1. According to Netarchy's post of his kernels, its apparently the current "stable version" - guess i can't go wrong there...

sides, if it ain't broke, don't fix it...
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
All phones are guaranteed to react differently to kernels
[EVO 4G Android Development] androidchicano27:
kernel information doesnt show under phone info

is this kernel suppose to show under my phone info? after i flashed BC's Kernel SBC-bcnice-stable-v7.zip (2.62 MB) it doesnt show that im using it. am i doing something wrong?

Rom: Miui 12.24

evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] kushdeck:
anyway well see a cm7 kernel with SBC?

thanks,

-deck
[EVO 4G Android Development] luisrod03:
i have myns rls 4 and im using kernel 131...wow...i unplug my phone by 4 am by 5 pm when i get home my battery is at 50%.... before it was at 9% on dead...thank you...now im going to try it out with the extended battery....
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cjunior:
hello i just got a 3500 battery and im still having a that big drop on the bettery right after i get it off the charger, i charged overnight and istill got the samething i have the 0003 hard ware im running the v8 azreal v3.1 rom.

do anybody has any recommendation based on my hardware version 0003 i know every karnel will perform differently but is that any rom that you guys recommend that i can use that will not couse the bettery to drop like that with in 10 minutes off the charger it gos to 98%

thanks in advence.
[EVO 4G Android Development] androidchicano27:
HELP PLZZ

ok i been at this all day. everytime i flash AOSP build v7 or v8 it says its installed fine but never shows under my phone software information

kernel version still shows: 2.6.32.25-bcblend_cfs-stableroot@paris-laptop #3

. but every time i flash a SENSE build it shows and it works but has this screen scribbling problems which i do not want.

im currently using 12.24 miui rom with the stock kernel. CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO INSTALL THE AOSP KERNELS CORRECTLY SHOW IT SHOWS UNDER MY PHONE INFO? THX
[EVO 4G Android Development] androidchicano27:
why doesnt the v7 or v8 beta AOSP builds show on my software information after i flash it?

Rom: Miui Rom 12.24

HTC Evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] Novarider:
I am running azreal x3 and the kernel worked perfectly. I was using an older version tho. I don't remember what version it is but when downloads it just says 123.zip maybe someone can tell you what version that is and you can try that one
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougdascenzo:
Running 4.2.2 more aggressive v7 with Calk 1.6.2 and I did just get the 2600 mah extended battery from sprint and I am seeing great results. Over 22 hours and I am at 87% (86% after I used the phone to take screenshots and post reply). Now granted, I had my phone off quite a bit, but here is what I used it for.

1 short phone call (few minutes)

at least 100 incoming texts (nfl alerts)

tweetdeck sync every hour (facebook, twitter, and foursquare)

gmail, calendar, and contacts push sync (received 7 emails)

GPS & WIFI radios on the entire time

Live wallpaper
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cjunior:
thanks guys i will give those i try.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Khilbron:
Just posting my progress, Unfortunately I don't have a picture, will snag one next time i run the time up.

Kernel: SBC for bc Blends, Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS4

Over Christmas I had 45 hours off charger, 48% battery remaining.

Usage:

30 minutes of Qik video chatting(over wifi) "family chat during christmas"

15 minutes of video recording "Opening of presents"

1 hour of talk time

1 hour random web browsing (over wifi)

GPS on, Background Updates on, screen off 2 minutes, auto screen Brightness.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Holy cr@p!! That is fantastic. 2+ hours of awake time and less than a 15% drop is nothing short of AMAZING. Light use or not, amazing.

I am running the same v7 kernel and will see how it settles into my myn rls5 beta today.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mgianni19:
I am running Baked Snack 1.8, which kernal do you recommend for me? I'm not too bright when it comes to this, lol. Any help would be great! Thanks!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] wmdunn:
Looks like you have it installed correctly. I'm using CM6.1, which is aosp of course, and when I check settings is shows the kernel version under "About Phone", which is your software information. I believe the software info screen you're referring to, is only under a sense rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fixxxer2008:
this kernel is am amazing, been off the charger for an hour and im still at 100% even with a few texts and what not. great work OP. :D

htc should be giving you a call about this. such a shame a dev had to fix it but they wouldn't.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mgianni19:
Is Baked Snack a AOSP Rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] godfirst:
Sense rom:cool:
[EVO 4G Android Development] boosted98taco:
This one didn't work all to well for me...
[EVO 4G Android Development] androidchicano27:
?

So what does that mean? Is my kernel going to work or no? When ever I tried a sense kernel it would show under my software info. But never the aosp versions
[EVO 4G Android Development] mgianni19:
So I unplugged my phone at 5:40AM and it's 10:30AM and i'm sitting at 99% battery. Granted it's on Airplane mode at work, but it still has never been this good. Usually around 90% by now, even in airplane mode.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slam11100:
use baked snack kernel 6
[EVO 4G Android Development] wmdunn:
Go to settings, about phone, and if the bcblend kernel is showing ... then you are good to go.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Is there a SBC version of the BS6 kernel?????????
[EVO 4G Android Development] mgianni19:
Why use baked snack kernal 6? This thing is a lot better, IMO.

Kernal 6 is the kernal that comes with 1.8, correct?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cjunior:
I'm using a 3500 battery with Calkulin's EViO 2 ROM v1.7.1 and the karnel SBC-net-4.2.2-more-havs-v7 and in the battery monitor widget says that my bettery is at 4197mv and it says full charged 100%.

My question is the phone is plugged in the charger shound i see a 4.2mv instead of 4197??

Thanks again guys
[EVO 4G Android Development] ibepressin:
I'm on myns 2.2 but I'm a version 0003 phone using v5 only side effect was great battery life. I put v5 on my gf's 0004 evo stock rom rooted with fantastic results. Didn't break her camera either. Worth a try just nandroid back up first.
[EVO 4G Android Development] androidchicano27:
.

yeah my kernel version says "2.6.32.25 bcblend cfs stable.

is that what its suppose to say? i though it suppose to say something relating to

SBC for BC's Kernel SBC-bcnice-stable-v7.zip (2.62 MB)
[EVO 4G Android Development] quickbird144:
Excuse my newbness. But do I install the kernal and then install the SBC, or is the SBC the same as a kernal?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
They are one and the same, every download is a full blown kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] sturmen:
You get positive mA's? I only get -mA's on full with calk's 1.7.1 and a 3500 mAh battery.

For the record, guys, it's k

e

rn

e

l. Both vowels are E. No A. Thank you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Try rebooting sometimes that helps with the negatives being reported
[EVO 4G Android Development] androidchicano27:
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can anyone tell me what my kernel version should say after i flashed sbc bcnice stable v7 AOSP kernel.

im using MIUI ROM 12.24

htc evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cjunior:
I just keep getting -mA's i don"t know why i will try restarting and see what heppens

thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
not sure but if thats what your download file is, sometimes MS forgets to change the description
[EVO 4G Android Development] gadean:
+1 I agree, it drives me freaking nuts!
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
hey MS, when you get a chance, check you might want to check this out

linky
[EVO 4G Android Development] crstfr:
i love this combo!

chiming in.... been using this kernel on Burnt Droid 1.4 and it is just awesome!...

Android 2.2

Baseband 2.15.00.11.19

Kernel 2.6.3.2.27-sbc-net-4.2.2-more-havs-root@paris-laptop#16

Software 3.70.65.1.1

webkit 3.1

Pri 190_003

prl 60674

running the latest wimax, radio, pri, nvm... i think its a main topic under the root of development... ..

uptime 99.24.51

awake 18.35....at the time of this post

i'm at 6hs 34min..... and i'm at 64%.... its now 1:02pm, and it was pulled off the charger at 6:30am.

this is a daily personal/work.. i use touchdown... i poll every 2 mins... Google mail.. sms.. internet... not super heavy.. but its my work phone...

to me... this is outstanding.... i'm use to being red led at this point.. ..so far the best rom/kernel I've ran... and its snappy to boot.... thanks for everyone's hard work!

sorry.. i dont know what to use to post screens......
[EVO 4G Android Development] VisedMonk:
Lol...

Thanks for pointing out that it's "kernel" and not "kernal". I've never wanted to be the grammar police, but that type of shyte drives me nuts...
[EVO 4G Android Development] VisedMonk:
I use ShootMe, but you can also try Drocap2. A lot of ppl swear by that one. Both are free in the Market.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kawi235:
okay i put the kernel on my phone with mikfroyo v4.1 rom i flashed a wiped properly like the direction says but my 100% goes to 95% in 12seconds and i also have the battery monitor widget so i dont see any improvements at all so can one of the veteran help me plz and tell me what im doing wrong or am i missing a step somewhere
[EVO 4G Android Development] androidchicano27:
HELP!!

hi im currently using revolution hd rom, which kernel version should i flash?

htc evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
any sense based roms since its based off of HD sense
[EVO 4G Android Development] Adam1422:
Does v8-BETA have everything that SBC-Net-4.2.2-more-havs USB\AC Trickle Charge does and more? Just wanted to see if I should update my kernel...thats all!

EDIT: Is v8-beta for AOSP only?
[EVO 4G Android Development] chillenandy321:
Anyone using v7 4.2 less aggressive? What setcpu settings you on?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Did you wait about 30 min. after it showed it was at 100% in battery monitor. Also can View History and don't unplug until it shows 100% and 0mA to 4mA...you will then be truly 100% charged. Then report back if battery drop is still rapid.

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
You are not the only one. I let mine charge till it was at 0mA and then unplugged...same result. I have not tried a fresh wipe though. May give that shot later now that I am not on call
[EVO 4G Android Development] wampuscat:
Can you be more specific ? Are u using battery monitor like OP says to monitor ma charge or discharge. Leave it on charge till + ma get to zero and millivolts are close to 4200

Edit . It's gotta be sumpin with your phone cuz I've been using these since test build 5 and every one since about build 70 has worked with stock and extended battery. Leave it on at least an hour after showing 100% .maybe longer
[EVO 4G Android Development] stargaterules:
K, so I tried both v7 and it made my phone very laggy. Furthermore, I only scored 910 on benchmark results. With v8. I was in 1300's. The trickle charging was working fine for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] upshot:
I've gotta say that this kernel is amazing. Performance and battery life are outstanding. I've been using this kernel since last week's modified CM kernel version, and I'm happy as hell. I also tried the offshoot - Savage Kernel - but didn't like it as much as this one, just didn't 'feel' the same and the battery life was only so-so.

ms79723, I'll be sending some 'gratitude' your way in the next few days...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Trident:
I've been using the v6 version of this kernel for the past week, and I can't imagine being happier. My EVO lasts longer than my Pre and I've only had one random reboot in five days. I'm not using SetCPU or any task manager. I'm going to try v8, butv6 is staying on my sd card.
[EVO 4G Android Development] crstfr:
ditto.. i posed on page 270 i think...... at the beginning of my day!.... its now ...336pm.... and i'm leaving at 4......

i'm at 9hs and 10ms since unplugged.... ... NUTS!!!!.. i'm 50%battery left!..NUTS!!....

the only thing i hate is that kats do updates..grrr.. i'll fall in love.. then guess what.. BD 1.5 comes out... then 4.2.3more**** no havs.... then i'm changing!!! grrrr i'm gonna try and stick this one out ~

lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] anthony92170:
i am running bos sacs hd rom which kernel should i use? i have evo hardware 003
[EVO 4G Android Development] cavediver:
It's a HAVS kernel. You don't need setcpu.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
HAVS has nothing to do with cpu
[EVO 4G Android Development] notasimpleway:
I am pretty sure it has everything to do with the voltage supplied to the CPU. Unless I read how HAVS works wrong.

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Volts isn't managed by setcpu, clock speed is. HAVS is what volts are used throughout the range of cpu speeds to my knowledge
[EVO 4G Android Development] notasimpleway:
I wasn't saying you were wrong. Just kinda misleading. ;P

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
No worries, that's why devs have less aggressive undervolting in their tables as some phones can't handle it or when they say they updated their uv etc. To my knowledge you can't modify havs with any app
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rico.27v:
Bad experience

Charged phone to 100% and waited about 30 minutes then unplugged went from 100 to 90 in an hour. Didn't even use the phone heavily. I'm using the aosp bcblend v7 for miui rom 12.24
[EVO 4G Android Development] DrRyder:
Hey hey. Long time no post. :D

So, after charging up and running it for as long as I could without needed to restart for something, I came to see that I was at 17 hours with 39% left. Awesome. V7 is a sure winner. I'm not getting rid of it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Dslick34:
This kernal is outstanding!! The initial 10% drop is non-existant as I was at 100% percent a little over 2 hrs. I got well over 24 hrs with one charge with medium use mostly texts and six phone calls using bluetooth. Great Job!! I'm using the 4.1.9.1 more havs v7 kernal with Fresh 3.5.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DraeGZ:
LMAO !!!! 910 is HILARIOUS .. Even though Quadrant's are relatively meaningless, I'd be upset too if I seen that !