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[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] SgtPecker:
So I says to Otterbox;

"Just curious about the hole above the speaker on the back of the HTC G2 / HTC Desire Z Commuter Series Case. What is this for? A lot of cases from other companies have these as well."

This is the response from Otterbox-

"That hole is for the noise-cancelling condenser-mic.

Best wishes, Catherine"

:confused:

So I says to HTC;

Just curious "blah, blah, blah." G2 and Desire Z "blah, blah, blah." Whats with the hole in these cases *example* Is there a reason for them?

This is the response from HTC-

"I understand that you have a question about the G2 or the HTC Desire Z having a noise-canceling microphone on the back of the device. These devices do not have a noise-canceling microphone on the back of them. The whole in the covers that companies make for these devices we have no information on what the whole is there this is just how the covers are made. The hole might be there where the cover does not interfere with the flash on the device."

:confused::confused:

So it's just a lack of communication between manufacturers...?

That is so anticlimactic.

On a side note, HTC p.r., arnt no guud at spellin and sentunce stukture.:mad:
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] steviewevie:
I'm pretty sure it's the WiFi antenna. I was experimenting with this last night, and putting my finger over that specific area kept on reducing my reception of all Wi-Fi networks (looking via the WiFi Analyzer app).
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] tankmorph:
Inconceivable.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] missparker76:
I had also asked the question in November to Android Central when I noticed that hole on pictures (I was looking for a case allowing me to use a lanyard) and this is what they replied:

"The smaller hole is for a back microphone to help reduce background noise on some models not to be use with a strap or lanyard."
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] aceman118:
Might be where the noise cancelling mic was supposed to be but was removed before production. Most of the case makers start their designs well before devices are released. Just a thought.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] FrenicX:
Exactly. The G2 was supposed the be the End All device that would force all other manufacturers to up their game... a few features never made it into the mix apparently. Like FFC, noise cancelling, working unique hinge...

However many features did.. like massive overclocking abilities and somethings that were just due to the name G2 like the huge developer base.

Personally I think with so many people using headsets they figured many would already have noise cancelling and they scratched it for battery life and production cost but told the case makers about it too late.

It would be cool if you could use the existing mic as a noise cancelling mic for when you use a headset though.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Deuces:
it's the wifi antenna. watch your wifi signal go up and down as you cover/uncover the hole.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] FrenicX:
The wifi goes down when you place your hand anywhere near the upper back of the phone. Has nothing to do with the dot.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] daboma:
Thanks for the explanation

This is an interesting thread. I was looking real close at first to see if there was some microscopic hole for the noise-canceling mic, but didn't see one. It makes sense that this feature was scrapped but that the case manufacturers (or just the first one) didn't get the info on time. Kinda annoying that it's there, then.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] TakoLuffer:
I do love dem lanyard hahah just get a drill and drill 2 holes in the corner of the case and litely sand. The corner so the lanyard dosnt use room

Sent from George2.0 (G2)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] gizzymo:
my myTouch 4G case was that way. but on that phone is was for a noise cancelling mic that was taken out and put in the speaker grille right at production...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] convolution:
Here is a quick hack:

1. Put a tiny piece of crumpled up tinfoil into the whole.

2. Use a little bit of tape to tape the aluminum in place.

3. Enjoy stronger wifi signals!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] dunes20:
Deffinetly for a lanyard. Nothing like having your phone on a string.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] TheJayyWilliams:
Id be scared for my phone to be on a lanyard on a case, ive had too many episodes of my phone sliding face down on concrete to take any chances, so i highly doubt its a lanyard
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] lainemac:
wow

can't believe there is a thread about this but I can't say i havent wondered myself.
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] kevina90:
has anyone got some windows animations ported like in these videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMNNCjvxyY8&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqrBF0TE3Qk&feature=related

etc...?
[HTC Aria Themes and Apps] kura808:
If you look at UOT kitchen, they just implemented the feature recently. It comes with this warning:

WARNING !!!

You have to wipe dalvik-cache when applying this mod. If you don't know how to do it - do not use this mod.

It's on testing mode, so do backup before applying this mod.

For Desire Sense ROMs only

http://circle.glx.nl/

Check it out. Maybe you can get it working..I was going to try it but didnt feel like taking a risk because I just finally got a2sd working lol...Huge frustration plus I had finals this week. Btw all of the other things work on my Aria using FR008. The only thing that's a bit weird is how things show up larger because the screen doesn't get adjusted to the right size (boot animation). I'm guessing if you try this, it may cause the screen size to be out of wack? Idk.
[General Questions and Answers] pixelorgy:
Hello, i'm trying to get linux running on this pda. As there's no specific port (or i did not find any), i'd tried several packages like Rhoubuntu, project Android (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=627997), also titchy linux (btw ran succefuly on my old HTC Uni. ), but basically, i've got struct with HaRET. The early log file looks fine, the image is loaded, but all ends up at "Jumping to kernel" message. May some haret arguments change help? or haret will not work with this device?. Do you have anybody some experience with running linux on MC75A, or similar?

Thanks for any advise... :-)
[General Questions and Answers] mototwentytwo:
I am currently attempting to get Android running on a Motorola MC75 and also coming across the same issues. i will be persevering with a good friend of mine who should be able to shed some light on the matter,

Many thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] sultan.of.swing:
This is posted for info only. To those of you wishing to flash to the newest radio combo without flashing the new rom then you must (and must)

Flash the newest kernel that was released last night. This is directed mostly towards people still using sense roms with stock HTC kernels.

If you flash the new radio combo over some of the older HTC kernels you will get stuck at the white evo screen.

Also since this is being asked all over this forum...

There is nothing wrong with you HTC clock.

This is a issue on HTC side so don't wipe your phone expecting to fit it because it wont.

If you want that little animation then delete the widget. Add it back but this time do not select current location. Enter the name of your city I. Or the closest match and select it to solve the issue for now.

If you are running netarchys kernel then you may be OK but I would use the new kernel first.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkdude36:
just read this as i was booting back up. i'm on nat's newest. booted past splash just fine. seeming a bit slow on the bootup. lets see the results.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vinconti:
and as it turns out, there is really no reason NOT to flash the newest rom, or some variant of it, since sprint re-integrated the numbering system for all evo HW versions as of this release

see www.goo.gl/grStG
[EVO 4G Android Development] LilRico:
I just updated without any issues. Booted perfectly fine. HW 0002
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
updated fine on cm6.1
[EVO 4G Android Development] sultan.of.swing:
To those that are successful post which kernel you are using so others will know.

The issue seems to be mostly on sense roms using some HTC kernels.

I personally flashed over netarchys kernel without issues.
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
default kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] sultan.of.swing:
OK so cm's default.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
Fresh 3.4.0.1 stock kernel - NO GOOD

CM 6.1 Stable stock kernel - GOOD

CM 6.1 Stable Zendroid .9 BFS - GOOD
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tipharet:
Yeah this is a bit generalized. I had no issues with the actual flash, however my 4g is stuck in scanning after a profile update.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mcmikecruz1:
Ok with kings 11

Swyped from my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
ACTUALLY, if you flash the newer radios combo, just make sure your running a custom kernel (e.g., netarchys). It'll work just fine with no issue and no need to flash any newer ROMs. Just an fyi

Sent from my HTC EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 4 loaded with all the goodies
[EVO 4G Android Development] nickflo13:
Stuck on boot screen w/ HTC's #17 Kernel(Undervolted) from Caulkin's HD ROM. Used netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-cfs-bfq-nohavs-smartass-universal (No HAVS) to get the phone to load up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dxearner:
I can confirm this as well
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
i dont flash nothing today but my HTC clock widget is not working, i got time but not weather
[EVO 4G Android Development] starkillers:
Apparently this is a Sprint or HTC service error has nothing to do with the update.
[EVO 4G Android Development] samcintron:
the thread is super helpful. THANKS to all that contributed, my head was spinning trying to figure out what was going on between 3.70 and the radio updates.
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
i thing is an HTC side, i just check my wife Incredible, and got the same issue
[EVO 4G Android Development] aph:
Link to newest kernel? I see the radio but not the kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] busyychild:
ok with 2.6.35.9-Cyanogenmod #2 (CM 6.1.0 stable stock kernel)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mayonesa:
anyone on Miui try this combo?
[EVO 4G Android Development] b0ricua:
Are you saying you successfully flashed the radio and wimax combo zip on CM6.1 rather than flashing to a sense rom first?

Sent from my Evo 4G
[EVO 4G Android Development] busyychild:
Yes. However I flashed the 12/8 Radio combo first, then the 12/15 combo. Not for any other reason than the 12/15 combo came out literally minutes after I flashed the 12/8 combo.

I do no think you will have any issues flashing the 12/15 combo running the CM6.1.0 suite.
[EVO 4G Android Development] collin1806:
New kernel link please:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] ryanalan82:
I have the both the rom and radio combo zips. I'm running rooted stock sense with king's bfs11. Does it matter which one gets flashed first?

Swyped from my Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] sultan.of.swing:
Depends if you want the whole rom or not.

As long as you not using a stock HTC kernel it don't matter
[EVO 4G Android Development] eusthebest:
booted just fine for me.

Azrael 2.1 (based of 3.29)

Stock HTC kernel #11

Update:

tested 4G and it works

tested Wifi and it works.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aph:
Agreed... would be much appreciated.
[EVO 4G Android Development] SnoopDawg:
I updated to EvoNonsense3.4.1 the white screen started looking and me and sang hide your wife, hide your kids.... complete face palm. So I flashed Zippy-11132010-1557 and it worked like a champ.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mayonesa:
ok well i tried it... the radio worked.. not sure on the rest

running the latest Miui with snap 7.6

phone booted fine, no errors at all flashing the combo update.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tiffany84:
Just flashed successfully running myn's and nets 4.2.1 havs and more smartass. My signal got better by one bar. Hey, I'll take it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timdawgdentist:
Thanks for that.. just saved me 20 minutes of reading.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tiffany84:
Not a problem. Glad I could help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timdawgdentist:
did you update profile?

tim
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tiffany84:
Ya. I updated profile and prl.
[EVO 4G Android Development] verse187:
Just flashed succesfully with myns rls4 with kings bfs 9 and now my weather is working soon as i flashed the combo
[EVO 4G Android Development] iikon_69:
Just flashed new radio combo with CM 6.1.1 with the default kernal that comes with the ROM and no issues here. Everything looks updated from what you can see in the phone info on cm6.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timdawgdentist:
ditto.... you gotta love it
[EVO 4G Android Development] scottspa74:
Helpful thread. Thank you.

So flash a custom kernel first, is that the gist of it? Been using the htc kernel on virus rom on HW 0002. {stock batt gives me best batt life).

Thanks fire this thread
[EVO 4G Android Development] ddark4eva:
Sooo once I flash a custom kernel and do the updates can I go back to a stock kernel? Cus if I have to use a custom kernel ill pass....also anyone have a link for the latest stock kernel?

Im currently running EvoNonsense3.4.1 and have htc kernel #10
[EVO 4G Android Development] Berat:
Im having trouble flashing the radios. I downloaded the ones calk posted and I flashed via recovery however when I boot up it shows that I have the old ones still installed.

Im using CM6.1 with Zen .9 BFS anyone running into this issue? Or if anyone can help me out that would be great thank you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] squiggie:
New Kernel?

Can someone please post a link to flashable zip of the new kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] thekinger:
I can confirm that you will have an issue flashing the latest radio update when using myn's warm release (using stock htc kernal 17 that comes with it).

I can confirm that the lastest cyanogen 6.1 works fine (using their default kernal).
[EVO 4G Android Development] hounie2286:
Can someone please help!!! The idiot that I am I did not read this thread before updating the combo pack. I am running warm 2.2 rls4 with stock kernel. I flashed the zip as is without switching kernel's... now stuck on white screen. I rebooted into recovery and tried restoring a previous back up, but nothing... Please Help!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ddark4eva:
Maybe try flashing the old radio,wimax, etc...an see if ur backup will work..?? Then u can try again. Just a thought not sure tho

Sent from Canadian Jigsaw's barn cuz he got all the Rush records.
[EVO 4G Android Development] hounie2286:
where could I access the old radios without having them saved somewhere on the phone?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ddark4eva:
Sorry id link em but im on tapagammafiedgamma.

Sent from Canadian Jigsaw's barn cuz he got all the Rush records.
[EVO 4G Android Development] heathp:
Flashed combo on myns rls4 stock kernel #17 with no problems.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thekinger:
For people who are having issues being stuck on a white screen. You may need to change your kernal (I have tested this with the latest netarchy kernal, though it may work with others).

As I mentioned before the latest cyanogen rom has no problems but myn's warm latest does (kernal htc17).

If you are stuck at a white screen, pull the battery, hold power/down button and get into recovery mode. Hook up to pc and enable usb storage.

Netarchy's Kernal

Kernal Link (that I tried): http://qap.la/~netarchy/netarchy-toastmod-4.1.9.1-cfs-havs-universal-signed.zip

Thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=719763

Download the kernal place on root of sd and flash the kernal. You should now be able to boot up normally.

I am personally switching over to cyanogen, tired of the hassles and I dont need 4G or HDMI out since I dont use either.

Interesting, I was running the same and flashed the combo then stuck on a white screen until I flashed a different kernal. Maybe its hardware dependent as well.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ddark4eva:
anyone know if the combo would work with htc kernel #10?
[EVO 4G Android Development] rileyd5:
Nice writeup. I have updated with the latest rooted ota and radio combo zip. If I want to return to a previous Nand backup and that rom has Htc 17, I guess the Netarchy kernel is needed to get it to boot up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] nkawal:
Im currently using VIRUS's REVO 3.1 with Sense Add-On and Ziggy 11/13 Kernal. Getting over 24hrs of battery and was able to flash the new Radio Combo without any issues.

Yall need to head over to www.InfectedROM.com
[EVO 4G Android Development] squiggie:
Here is the link to the new stock kernel for those looking.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=875384
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
I'm running Myn's RLS4 and HTC #17 stock kernel. Based on this thread, I should not flash the newest radios, correct?

And should I flash the latest HTC kernel released yesterday in order to flash the new radios?

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] david1023:
CM 6.1 Stable w/Zendroid was not good for me. Stuck on white screen. It also broke my recovery. Doh!
[EVO 4G Android Development] verse187:
Correct flash the latest kernel or custom kernel then flash combo
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tibedabeeto:
Thanks for the write up I had stock htc kernel that comes with myn's rom. I was stuck on the white htc screen as well. I flashed back an older radio, to get back into my rom and backup everything (Thinking that nothing would go wrong). Then flashed a diffrent kernel. Then flashed new radio and it worked.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Abracastabya:
Just updated without any problems.

Azrael 2.1 with HTC Kernel #11

On top of wiping cache and dalvik I also use Calkulins delete temp files zip before I flash anything.

A smartphone is not very smart in the hands of an idiot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
CM 6.1 Nightly Build 201, stock kernel, updated no problem
[EVO 4G Android Development] tmwilsoniv:
Myn's RLS 4 with Net's 4.2.1-cfs-bfq-havs-more-smartass...

No problems here.

Current Location Weather is working fine in Baltimore.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ludacon:
Flashing the New Radio combo now, will post back with results
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ludacon:
as far so good on my evo, ill post back if there any issue with 4g when i go out later

Rom:mikfroyo v3.25

Kernel: Net v4.2 Beta

Hardware: 0004
[EVO 4G Android Development] barleysoda:
Running Myns RCL4. Flashed latest Kernel #15. Rebooted. Went back to recovery and Flashed latest Radio package. Rebooted.

Phone booted up just fine.

Wifi doesnt work. Just says "error"

4G is stuck at "turning on"

Guess I reflash again and hope it takes this time otherwise I will reflash the previous radio package.
[EVO 4G Android Development] smallba:
Just Flashed Combo, Looped Once Back To RA Recovery, Reboot Again And

WiFi: Works

Data: Works

4g: Wrong MAC Address, Any Help?

Rom: Myns RLS 4

Kernel: Netarchy 4.1.9.1 Less HAVS
[EVO 4G Android Development] D_A_M_A_G_E:
I had the issues as well just flashed back to an older radio and ava froyo and evo nonsense both work where they would not before.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 11_fingers:
got stuck at white boot screen,

running virus anthrax, netarchy 4.1.9.1-cfs havs universal.

flashed old radio back and restored nandroid and working again, but no new radio, nv, wimax.... maybe try again tomorrow after work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydonohue:
i flashed the radio combo, reboot went to white screen (as mentioned), so i just pulled the battery (to get out of screen). then, rebooted into recovery, mounted the usb, dragged the newkernel over, unmounted the usb, then flashed the kernel, and then reflashed the radio combo.

so far it's booting up. will update with any network issues

edit: was stuck in a boot loop. rebooting now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HTCRALEIGHFAN:
this afternoon be4 i read this thread i updated the radios for myn 2.2 rls4 and well white boot screen!

at my job connecting my ph to the pc is not allowed!

only option i was able to do and get my ph back to norm was install a the previous radios update which was still on my sd card and it worked!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jeff657756:
Tried flashing newest htc kernel and then the combo and i got the same exact results. I had to go back to previous radio and it still said wifi error. Ended up having to reflash rom and basically starting from scratch. Going to try a different kernel to flash tomorrow to try to flash the combo.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
It looks like there a more frequent issue's with Myn's rom when flashing the new radios. I'll wait til he can check on it him self. Everything of mine works great as is, so I'll wait a few before flashing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] FLmassive:
new radio's and rom caused my xm radio app to fail connection to their servers. soooo reverted back ..sucks kuz i went to the gym and wanted to listen to some choonz fail
[EVO 4G Android Development] thekinger:
I believe some people were asking about where to get the old radio version. I tend to keep backups of everything on my sd card (15gb :) ).

This is the 09.01 radio, which I believe was the one before this new one that is causing issues. Should be flashable, enjoy.

hxxp://filefront.com/17660965/evo-radio.2.15.00.09.01.zip
[EVO 4G Android Development] furrelkt:
I really am agreeing with you on this one... seems like a lot of people on Myn's rom are having a lot of issues updating the radios...flashing kernels and so on... ugh. I'm going to wait on Myn to update. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Dnomyar220:
Time/location still messed up...

I know you said this was an issue on HTC/Sprint's side, but would that also cause my time to be off? My time is reading like 7 hours into the future, and it says that my location is Luano. I flashed the latest "RUU SuperSonic EvO 3.70.651.1 OTA - Stock - Sense - Deodexed & Odexed Version" from these threads. I also flashed the latest radio/wiimax combo kernel. Everything is running fine but the time and location are effed... a reboot fixes this but only temporarily
[EVO 4G Android Development] kmmccorm:
Thanks for posting this ... I flashed the new all-in-one ZIP last night and thought I had borked my phone when it got stuck at the white HTC screen. Luckily I could get to HBOOT and Recovery and flashing an old Fresh/netarchy combo nandroid resolved the issue so I had a hunch it was related to the kernel but I was glad to see the confirmation.

The new HTC kernel #18 resolved all issues for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
I'd love to just flash everything now, but rather have a working phone without a lot of hassle.

Side note: Just realized how awful my grammar was in that post. What the helll...?
[EVO 4G Android Development] JBlazersp:
I flashed the new radios and a few of the new roms last night then ended up restoring my backup of myns. now system process is eating 100% of my cpu. I'm going if I flash back the old radio this goes away.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mcnu:
***got it sorry***
[EVO 4G Android Development] Igzekyativ:
Running Calkulin's EViO 2 ROM v1.6.2 with ziggy'z kernal and got stuck on boot screen..
[EVO 4G Android Development] kaeXo:
I have Fresh 3.4.0.1 with the included kernel.

The combo doesn't work, nor does the NV. I did the Radio and WiMAX and it went fine. It even updated the PRI (without actually installing the PRI zip). I can't confirm the WiMAX has updated because I forgot how to check.

EDIT: I meant the combo doesn't work for Fresh, not generally speaking.
[EVO 4G Android Development] snowboarda42:
I'm having problems with Myn's TwoPointTwo and 2.6.32.15-netarchy-toastmod-4.1.9.1-cfs natas@64bit-evil#8. Super laggy but it boots at least.

What kernel's are working after the radio update with Myn's?

Are you running Myn's with the #18 Kernel? And what Harware version?