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[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
direct your favorite kernel dev to his github ;) folks have flashed the sense version but it gives them screen tearing etc
[EVO 4G Android Development] chris66:
same here, downgrading to PRI1.77 seems to have fixed it !

Look away from the light ms! Samsung?!?!... After the instinct POS?.. never ever, ever...... I'd buy an i-... first, that ****'s not funny, I wouldn't....lol:eek:
[EVO 4G Android Development] chillenandy321:
The SBC #15 says its a bad zip will not flash. Does anyone have that Kernel working in a zip?? Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
Trying this now...about to flash 1.77 and 4.32

Edit: 1.77 and 4.3.2 sbc bfs just flashed...will report back. Oh, i'm running Warm Z.
[EVO 4G Android Development] goodboynyc:
Slightly off topic. But I have your avatar as a button. :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
Did you get it from the Riptide thread....glass icon zip?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheapskate88:
I think goodboynyc has an actual physical button. Like something you would pin to your shirt. Your avatar is the logo from a couple of traveling sex educators. Really nice and intelligent people. They sell a book by the same name.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
Ahhh, don't think i'd wear a physical button/pin that says that....lol

I think I gotta call you my hero today. My Warm Z has been on 100% for over an hour now after making this change. Woot!!!!!!!!!! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] adrian2pm:
Which hardware you guys have for people that downgraded?
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
0003 here..........
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
If you're using Amon RA recovery...did you toggle signature verification, then flash zip? File attached just in case.

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] chillenandy321:
Where do you toggle sig verification? I new to Amon Ra recently.. Thanks

Edit: figured it out thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] drewtorrespr:
Thank u kindly. Im not trying to be a hero but im trying to figure ways to make our phones work beyond anyone has expected. Im not the only one to thank. We need to thank the person who first posted on this. Cant seem to find the damn thread tho.. Oh yeah today took off my phone off charger after charging over night for 10Hrs straight. It took the phone about 50 mins for it to drop 1%. Mind you this is running in a Roaming zone, which roaming always eats up more battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] drewtorrespr:
Im running 004 hardware. working wonders on mine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] drewtorrespr:
Try out SBC #15 with Pri 1.77 for one day after a major charge overnight. See how the drainage is with it that day. and try 4.3.2 kernal to see if it lasts longer another day....I just flashed SBC #15 midway thru the day....It was 1:30pm and my phone was at 78% since disconnecting the charger at 8:50am. Then I flashed #15 n I could swear this kernal drained a lil faster then it should. Has anyone else noticed anything like that.

By the way Ive got SETCPU set to drop to 128hz minimum and max when "screen off" (powersave) when I was using 4.3.2.. No major lag except for a lil stutter when unlocking the screen n then goes to full 1152mhz with minimum 128hz n works like normal. I dont know if this will work with anyone elses ROM/Kernal combo. But stick with what works for you
[EVO 4G Android Development] djorijun:
So I read somewhere on this forum a few weeks ago of someone stating that the SBC kernels made their phone smoke. Is this possible? Is this user error? Not trying to be a jack ass, I'm just curious.
[EVO 4G Android Development] krazykevin76:
Your phone won't smoke!!!! Been using SBC for weeks, nothing but full charge!!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] chris66:
My phone builds more heat on a 5 minute phone call (yeah, these things really do that!!) than on an overnight charge using these kernels.

Is winning the lottery possible?....:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Swede2008:
There is a "risk" to killing your battery with SBC. That being said I haven't had ANY issues with them in about a month of constant use (some people even longer). And the few reported dead batteries are still unconfirmed that it was actually SBC that caused it, last I heard at least. I enjoy the longer battery life :-)

Sent from my HTC Evo! :-D
[EVO 4G Android Development] chillenandy321:
Will Calk's Undervolt Zips work with the SBC #15 Kernel??
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
Flashing v7 now....

Gonna test it for a few days or so then try v8, although I'm wondering if I should have just jumped right into v8....... ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] pardonmyownage:
people are still using the SBC kernels quite a bit. i haven't seen any new phone/battery "failure" events since the initial uprising. could they have been flukes or liars? the scare threads made it seem that everyone would have a dead battery within a couple of months. i expected to see many failures, but i haven't seen anything in like a month.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
Well, I'm really liking v7 already for one reason, on the USB, my phone charged faster than ever and one thing I never saw before is a green LED behind the left corner of the front speaker showing charging completed.

Also, my soft button lights at the bottom of the phone are working for the first time ever.

The Netarchy kernel I flashed last night was deadly. I watched my battery drain 14% in 1/2 hour this morning with no use. just the screen on.
[EVO 4G Android Development] brokentoaster24:
I'm gonna try v8 on cm7. V7 chewed up a considerable amount of battery for me when doing nothing :/
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
After 2 1/2 hrs, down to 95% with minimal use. Just some texting with handcent. MUCH better than the Netarchy.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] sw99:
I would love a kernel that allowed for the toggling of the SBC capability.

For safety, I would disable the SBC capabilities over night, but I would enable it when I wake in the morning to get a full charge when I could monitor it.

Even if there was no app to do the toggling, I would be happy to use Tasker with the locale plugin to run a script to turn it on or off. For that matter, I could get Tasker to trigger it automatically in the morning.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
sbc is safe, safe enough I would let my baby turtles play with it
[EVO 4G Android Development] miguelfp1:
well, it may not be an option for you, but you could turn the phone off overnight, and back on after waking up....

SBC kernels don't affect or modify charging settings while the phone is off.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ccossin:
I'm still using the original version 131. Have been since it came out. No problems yet

This has been a telepathic transmission from the Outer Limits.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
if it is sense based those ARE netarchy's kernels
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
So how well do the current sbc kernel offerings work when the phone's on the charger and in use.. ie charging in the car while streaming shoutcast via bt. How hot does the device get?

I think it was mentioned earlier, but it would be great to easily switch between kernels for different applications without the whole flashing process.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
my phone doesn't get any hotter than with non sbc,

treat your phone normally, don't do anything special because its sbc

your phone won't over heat, act funny, only give you better battery life
[EVO 4G Android Development] vin255764:
No heat here too,even after many hours of usb tethering.

(My TP2 used to get hot after tethering)

My EVO is hardware 0004 (if thats important)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
no need to even bring that old stuff back from the dead....
[EVO 4G Android Development] fgr:
That's exactly what I was thinkin'...
[EVO 4G Android Development] kenny8504:
i went to flash the sense sbc one and i keep getting a failure msg do anyone know why thanks in advance
[EVO 4G Android Development] miguelfp1:
it could be a corrupt download, have you tried re-downloading?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kenny8504:
Yea I downloaded 2 different ones same thing
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
you are using an older version of amon ra, you need to toggle signature verification off, then flash
[EVO 4G Android Development] andnad:
Is the htc kernel #15 v7 the stock kernel included with the evo or is it one of the sbc kernels? I'm a bit confused.
[EVO 4G Android Development] DRUMSBH:
its the stock kernel with SBC included.
[EVO 4G Android Development] andnad:
Hmm now I can't decide if I should do that kernel or the cfs have more kernel...
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
15w/sbc has wifi issues with some people
[EVO 4G Android Development] andnad:
No wifi issues here. Im running it right now and it's giving me terrible battery life.10%+ drained in less than an hour. I'm going to let it drain completely and give it a few cycles first though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
what is your pri?
[EVO 4G Android Development] andnad:
1.90 i've already tried downgrading it to 1.77 but it doesn't have any noticeable change in battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
I'm getting great battery with netarchy's 4.3.2 more havs SBC kernel. here's the link: http://www.qap.la/~netarchy/
[EVO 4G Android Development] novanosis85:
Very interesting. My god I think I can sit in front of you and listen to your lecturing all day and not get bored. I would probably be yelling "let's try it!"

I sure do hope you figure out Samsungs battery trick.

Should I get my wife an epic or a shift?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
So whats this mean that ms posted a long thing about evos and epics are his kernels crap now or what
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
i don't think he said they are crap but that there ability to really extend the stock battery for significant amounts is limited. I would have to agree, fundamentally the battery life for the Evo is total crap, a glaring weakness, and even other HTC phones (nexus one) have significant better battery life. Not that he thinks they are crap, but maybe we have reached the apex on how much we can really squeeze out of the evo. Hopefully HTC addresses this when/if they release HTC EVO II/HD
[EVO 4G Android Development] sudhirkhanger:
Is it OK to leave EVO with sbc kernel on charger for overnight or they should be plugged off after they are fully charged (30 minutes after green light)?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
i plug mine in when the phone is anywhere from 0 - 100 and leave it over night for at least 8 hours and the house hasn't come tumbling down
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Here is SBC example
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheapskate88:
But baby turtles will be slapped.

Besides that, I've never had a problem leaving it on the charger overnight.

Tapatalk and Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] chas123:
Anybody leave it plugged into usb charging overnight?
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
I have always used non sbc kernels. I would like to try one. Thinking about nets 4.3.1 cfs havs sbc. What exactly should I need to know about sbc before I flash it? Just make sure not to leave on charger too long? Anything else? Sorry I'm a sbc newb.

Koni's Elite is where it's at!
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
flash like any other kernel, treat like any other kernel, don't change your habits
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
Gotcha. Will try it out today. So many people with such great results. Can't be too bad. Plus I have a backup stock battery if needed. I also have one of the galilio 2000 mah batteries.

Koni's Elite is where it's at!
[EVO 4G Android Development] fgr:
I've got 2 of the Galilio batteries on the way, how has your experience been with them?

Little off topic, sorry.
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
Well I could never get mine to last longer than stock, but I never tried an sbc kernel.

Koni's Elite is where it's at!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sudhirkhanger:
The OP says the charger stops working after a full charge. So, it doesn't really make sense to charge it over night.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Anon9mouz:
It's stops after 4.2 volts correct me if I'm wrong but it u have the battery monitor widget then when its hit red ur charges off
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Actually the mod allows you to stay closer to 4.2 once you disconnect in the morning to have as close to a full charge as possible. As it gets closer to full the amount of charge reduces
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigd2442:
I've been trying to find if anyone has done the sbc with a baked snack kernel.... or if there's a way to apply sbc to a kernel myself?

BS#6 is STILL by far the best kernel on my setup. The nets work good, but in order they are bs6, 131(4.2.1 more havs), and sbc 4.3.2 more havs.

I LOVE the SBC... and love BS6.... can someone please help me make/find my dream kernel? :) lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
that question has been posted in it's own thread with no answers, I would love to be able to add sbc to an existing kernel, ms gave me a walkthrough but it's all greek to me, I can post it if somebody cares to decipher
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
The quick and dirty:

Setup android development environment

Clone the github of the kernel you want (AFAIK hero over doesn't post his kernels source code so this would be hard if not impossible)

Grab the .c file for the sbc mod and add it to the proper directory of the kernel git clone/source directory

Pull the config.gz from the device and use that to create a "generic" build config

Compile the kernel, flash, test.

If you have a hard time finding the source file for the sbc mod and the directory it belongs in you are better off asking the dev of the kernel you want.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
or you could point Hero over to MS's github as he is supposed to be back in the lab ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] vide infra:
every SBC kernel i've tried to flash on cm7 throws me into bootloops :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] djnarcotics:
well if ur trying to flash an sbc kernel from this thread it will do that because these are sense only kernel try going here
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
Is anyone working on adding SBC to the latest cm7 kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Don't think so, but if their github is up to date i believe you could compile it no?
[EVO 4G Android Development] 94tbird:
+1 The CM7 RC1 Kernel with SBC would be god!
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigd2442:
Thanks for the info guys. Yes, Greek to me too! :) I may try to give it a whirl of I ever get some time, but hopefully the dev will do it himself, it'd take about 1/100th the time. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
I could but my level of understanding this stuff prohibits me from being so daring. Not trying to brick my phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
you and me both, but the point being is if folks that know how to compile could take the kernel info from that github, and the SBC from MS's github and make the appropriate changes ie add it to ziggy's kernel etc
[EVO 4G Android Development] brandonkahn:
the fitst kernel listed kernel #15 V7 has sbc right? And whats the difference between this one and the others below?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
so, uh, turns out that my battery monitor widget is reporting identical charging results between the new .37 cm kernel included in cm7 rc1 and sbc, did anybody notice the change log reporting sbc integrated into stock cm kernel?

or is my phone lying to me again?
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
I doubt CM would incorporate SBC. Cyanogen and other members of Team Douche were talking **** about SBC on Twitter a long time ago. And if Cyanogen doesn't approve, it probably won't make it in, even as an option.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
I agree, im looking for a second opinion on the charging profile, not a discussion on why it would not have been added
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
is this still being updated?
[EVO 4G Android Development] michaelvibe:
I hope so. Im hoping for some ginger bread loving on the newest cyanogen.
[EVO 4G Android Development] vide infra:
those make me boot loop as well
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheapskate88:
We miss you, ms.
[EVO 4G Android Development] skyheli:
I think it maybe lying to you. Mine dropped like a rock after removing from the charger. .37 kernel on GB CM7 rc1
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
For users of Battery Monitor Widget, what kind of current draw does your setup have during "screen off" when not charging?

I'm checking on how SBC is doing on my phone, and I was noticing the current draw was ~98mA when my screen was off.

This seems high to me, but I wanted to see what others were seeing before I start a wild goose chase for rouge apps.

Edit: As reference, I'm running a sense ROM listed below. If that makes a difference.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
Hey guys, I know I'm linking this to an apple fansite, (blasphemy) but it looks like apple is applying for some charging patent and I was wondering is this method kinda SBC-ish?

http://www.iphonedownloadblog.com/2...rove-battery-life-by-increasing-cell-density/
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
I'm trying to duplicate my results but have been unsuccessful, the 5 hours of +120mA charging tics was great when I saw it but haven't since
[EVO 4G Android Development] bigd2442:
So (kind of off topic, sorry) after running bs6 for a week I still love the battery but have noticed significant slowing when running multiple things.... I mean way too much lag. (can't have it all I guess)

I think I am withdrawing my bs6 sbc request :)

Back to 4.21 sbc for me. Thanks for the input on how to do it though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
That's what it sounded like to me but I don't claim to be an expert
[EVO 4G Android Development] skyheli:
I had the trickle mod on cm6.1.1 just before flashing GB. It was fully charged in the morning and did not drop for a while. I hope someone patches the GB kernel on CM7
[EVO 4G Android Development] ahow628:
Mid-90s sounds about right for screen off. My battery life has gotten better over the last few months of using this kernel. Medium use gets me 1 day, 4 hours. Usually plug in daily with 40% or more in the tank.

Sent from my EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
I've been trying different ROM/Kernel combinations to see if idle current changes. 4.2.2 gave me the 98mA during idle. 4.3.2 is giving me 54mA during idle. However, 4.3.2 doesn't appear have SBC working correctly; it gave me 50mA during the last bit of charging and then when to -32mA right after it hit 100%. The only reference I have is 4.2.2 which gave a constant 6mA after 100%.

Using battery monitor widget, I made these 2 observations:

1) Both 4.2.2 and 4.3.2 thinks the battery is 100% when the voltage is only 4191mV. I thought 4200mV was considered "full". Is this a built in safety precaution? Not that 0.009V makes a world of difference, just wondering.

2) The mV of the battery seems erratic. Pulled from the charger at 100%, with 4187mV. Ten minutes later, dropped to 4106mV (phone was idle this whole time). Ten minutes after that, it went up to 4118mV. An hour later, it was back down to 4097mV. :confused:

Could SBC break during install? I got 4.3.2 from the link in net's thread, and the file name does indicate SBC. Should I wipe everything, re-download the Kernel, and start all over? I have several different batteries of varying capacities, this is what made SBC appealing to me, but now I don't know.

One final thing; I shouldn't have to wipe the battery data when switching to SBC, correct?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ztahoez:
This sbc is freakin awsome wish you had a build for kingklick#11 cfs
[EVO 4G Android Development] xtool:
I have been experimenting with these kernels for a while now and they give me much better battery life though it does go from -1ma to -4ma for a number of hours during the night but thats still much better than before.

The problem that I am experiencing now is every time I flash one of the above kernels my camera dies. I have tried every one but the AOSP and beta builds. I am running stock rooted 2.2 on my EVO and would do anything for a fix.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cheapskate88:
Many of us have noticed that a fully functional SBC mod may still only get you to 4190 + or - . My default 100% only gets me to 4188. A few of us believe that it has to do with individual differences in batteries. So no worries. You're still taking advantage of the SBC even if you're sitting at 4191.

As for the fluctuating mV, this is not a problem either. A wipe will not change how the phone reads the battery on SBC. Fluctuations just happen.

Finally, sometimes the phone's internal charger will shut off after hitting 100% if you are also using the phone. This is a preventative measure in the kernel. You will have the best results just by leaving the phone alone while it charges. Ms even recommended uninstalling the battery app to avoid unnecessary -mAh. However, if your charger does shut off, you can always unplug and replug the phone. That should reactivate the charger. Keep your eye on -mAhs or the battery indicator.

Moral of the story: don't worry! SBC is working and youre getting far better battery life on a SBC modded kernel than without one even if you're having a few quirks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Thanks for the feedback! I kind of figured 100% charge slightly below 4.2V was expected, just wanted to verify. The fluctuating voltage threw me for a loop, but I guess its standard; I just never bothered to look at it before. I'm definitely a proponent of SBC; not needing to calibrate every time I change battery capacities and keeping the charge as close to 100% the entire time plugged in should be standard.

One other observation. In the OP, ms said trickle charge occurs for both usb and outlet charging. I'm currently running net4.3.1 cfs havs sbc, and I noticed that trickle charge didn't happen during usb power. I'm currently testing this again to verify.

Has anyone else noticed no SBC when usb powered with net's kernels?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
when that happens, unplug for a few seconds then plug back in, usually the lack of trickle charging is caused by rebooting phone while it's plugged in, other rare factors aside
[EVO 4G Android Development] coiledwire:
Ok. I knew something was up when I has the usb plugged in. Yep, I was rebooting during that time (I can't stop flashing).
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhlaEVOr:
Any one tried this with calks 1.8 evio?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nivron:
Try what? SBC? If so, I had great success with netarchy's 4.3.2 cfs more havs with SBC on EViO 2 v1.8.
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhlaEVOr:
Wat radio version u using?
[EVO 4G Android Development] nivron:
EVO 4G - HW: 003 (Old Cam) - PRI: 1.90 - Radio: 2.15.00.11.19 - Recovery: Amon Ra v2.3
[EVO 4G Android Development] tainojax:
I used this kernel for a while with mikfroyo rom and i was getting awesome battery life. loved it keep up the great work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HTCRALEIGHFAN:
any new updates?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
the MOD is pretty much set, so its up to the kernel dev's to incorporate the mod into their kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
I thought MS said awhile back he was already running a v9 and tweaking it more but hes never said anything else about it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HTCRALEIGHFAN:
yup back in jan he said v9 in a dm also to me since then i think life kidnapped him.

again my lil plea!

ANY UPDATES
[EVO 4G Android Development] bignibb:
There is a kernel that has full hdmi out is there anyway to get this with sbc incorporated or to incorporate this into one of you beastly kernels?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
I think any sense based kernels will work, but I could be wrong. Also this is for the mod not the kernels, ms was just nice enough to patch them in for us
[EVO 4G Android Development] beezy69:
which one of these kernals is best for myns 2.2 rsl5
[EVO 4G Android Development] nivron:
Out of those, I'd say any of the v7 Sense ROMs or the one marked 131. I remember a lot of people loving 131, myself included.