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[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
If you have been a beta tester before you will be sent the beta
[EVO 4G Android Development] Chris 2155:
here's my 2cents… the sbc hack is awesome! We can now charge our phones overnight and keep the first 10% of the battery… YES there is some -mA's but all in all we are all getting pretty much the same results instead of 5 minutes and down to 90% we are all lasting anywhere from 30 minutes to an hours…

BUT here's the problem for me and it sounds like the rest of us, the battery life in general after 90% is still bad… I don't know if it is the kernals or what, but the htc stock kernals are better overall with battery life…

Adding the extra 10% on the top end doesn't mean a thing if we can't get the batteries to do what they used to… so here's where I am at… MS don't sweat -2mA over night at the moment, just figure out why these kernels aren't keeping up with the stock ones from 90% and lower… if we can do that then we will all be happy, even if there is -mAs… and once this is done, then go bcak and put the finishing touches on your tweak! Because having out batteries hang on 100% doesn't mean anything if we are all draining our batteries within 6 hours after that when stock ones go for 8ish… And heavy on the ish if you know what I am saying…
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Once htc releases their source code which they are obligated to by gpl law, i suspect there will be increased benefits
[EVO 4G Android Development] DeMiNe0:
Ok.. I hae no clue why, but I ALWAYS have the most horrible experiences with Non-Stock Kernels. They ALWAYS freeze up my phone, and make act really wonky.

I Wiped my Cache and Dalvik, then I flashed the 4.1 v7 Aggressive BFS Kernel. RIGHT as soon as my sense home loaded... BAM froze. Then it rebooted. It does the same thing over again...

I'm not sure what im doing wrong here. I have never heard of these issues with anyone else. And it does it for ANY modded kernel. Kingz, Baked, Netanarchy, ect.

Any suggestions? I've also done full wipes, as well with no luck.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Some phones are just more sensitive to kernels than others. If you find one that works well with your phone stick with it
[EVO 4G Android Development] Hamspiced:
Thats just how a Li-ion discharges. The main point in this mod is to make sure the batteries charge to 100% not to 90% which was htc's standard.

Measure your overall battery performance from the time you unplug, to the time the phone actually dies.

Attached is a normal discharge graph of a li-ion. you arent going to see a super consistant trend, it will have its drops.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lmatth13:
Happy Holiday everyone,

What is the app that everyone is using that monitors that battery while it is charging?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Battery monitor widget
[EVO 4G Android Development] DeMiNe0:
Mine hasn't worked with *ANY* custom kernel. I'm not really sure what I can do at this point, besides get a new phone. And I really dont want to spend the money on that.

Right now my battery won't last longer then maybe 6-8 Hours on a full charge.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
had v5 yesterday and it seemed to be draining a little faster (but i was in a low signal area through the afternoon) and when i got home from work ~4 i found out it was stuck on 53% for like an hour and 45 mins with moderate usage...then i decided i wanted to flash v7 and test it out today and i wanted to start from a drained battery and it took me almost 5hrs of messing around and playing games (battery-sucking games) to get it down to 17%...MS you my friend are a mad scientist...v7 looking even better...will give my 2 cents on it later
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
well what rom are you running and what kernel are you using currently?
[EVO 4G Android Development] DeMiNe0:
Ok, It looks like v3 NON HAVS is working on my phone ATM. I'll report back and tell you guys how it goes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] igotroot:
where are you getting this information from my phone is on the stock 3.0 azrael with 3.70 and the htc stock kernel number 15, and my battery goes all the way up to 4.2v at 100%. My circle indicator says 100, my spare parts says its 100, and I lost 3% in 9mins. If HTC over all lasts better, and I can get my 3500mah Seido battery to get fully charged, that's what's up! Maybe u guys are having bad luck because of a standard battery?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Sorry guys for either late responses or none at all. I'm trying to get this working on Incredible phones as well since they share the same battery driver as us. I dont have an Incredible phone so this is taking me a while >.<
[EVO 4G Android Development] gratefultyler:
per many previous threads about extended batteries and the trickle charge, I was under the impression that we should ALWAYS use USB or a charger with max .5A output (same as usb). I was told that any charger with 1A output (i.e., the charger supplied by HTC with the phone) would kill the battery faster and never reach full charge potential.

Is this still true for the new kernals? With a .5A charger and 131, it takes me 10+ hours to reach 4.2V.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
are you ever going to take a break??...i mean dang last week this thread had a couple pages and one kernel build...now you have the entire community looking at you as a mastermind...and it seems as tho you haven't slept cus you've been working on this non-stop...it's like you're some type of cyborg or something...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jonathaflores:
he is an Android!! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I use the stock AC charger, isnt that 1A? Works great with my extended battery (mine is 1800).

haha, I haven't been getting much sleep at all. I'm actually working on something right now. Comparing my charging to actual trickle charging the moment the battery hits 100%. Idk how I feel about it...there are two ways I can do it. I can check and trickle charge based on the charging current (that's how I'm doing it now), or I can do it based off of the voltage (that's how I will be doing it 10 mins from now). Percentage is out of the question because you have to lose a lot of current just to drop a percent on a charger.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
tester ready and waiting
[EVO 4G Android Development] igotroot:
Not true. Read my post a few messages ago.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I may need some testers for trickle charging based on voltage. Based on current is kinda odd. Didnt know what to think about it. It would trickle charge perfectly overnight, but the moment you turn the screen on, you lose 500mA and then the voltage is at 4.063 or something. Overnight, the voltage stayed between 4.163 and 4.192, so that's good.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
haha i bet you haven't been...but we really do appreciate the work you're doing...i would def be a tester if i had the time to devote to it but my wife and I are just so busy that i don't have the time...but hey you don't even have the time to sleep and here i am complaining...hahaha
[EVO 4G Android Development] Hamspiced:
no issues so far with v7. Pm if you need a tester
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ragster:
Is that the problem I'm having? I leave it all night on the charger, gets to 4218, then the second I remove it from the charger it jumps down to 4125 or so. And I notice that my phone reaches 4202 mV by 77%.. Using stock battery v7!

Before it would shut off at 77 when it would go that high, now it stays but my battery drain is crazy quick. Helppp lol been using this kernel since version 71 or so lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] Hamspiced:
This is the main reason this mod was started.. Read the first couple pages.

3% in 9 minutes is terrible. we are able to pull 100% after use and 1.5 hours.

Your phone may say one thing but actually it isnt. Read up a bit man.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Well 4218 is the charging voltage, not the battery voltage. So the charger voltage could be 4202 but your actual battery voltage can really be 4111.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fr0st420:
61% after 6.5 hours. This is with moderate usuage. Wifi on. I even flashed a new rom and did a full backup with titanium backup. Very nice work. Donation coming next paycheck.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ragster:
Oh okay, that's what I thought but I was kind of freaking out lol, so is that normal? My battery seems to never go higher than 4125
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Yeah its normal. My charging voltage never goes higher than 4196 unless I'm playign a game while listening to music on the charger. My avg overnight voltage is 4188. Thats why people had problems with build 129. I set the voltage limit at 4190 because I assumed everyone else's charging voltage was like mine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ragster:
Lol I remember that, mine used to shut off in the earlier builds! Well thank you! I'll give thanks once I'm on the computer and when I get it to work, a donation your way! :) thanks again for your quick reply and hard work! I will test a new build if you need a tester!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tom2164:
Great Job

Reading through the threads it seams if there are mixed results, I have nothing but praise for the developer here. I have been using version 7 since its posting here. My battery charges to 100%, i use it like two and a half hour and I am still at 90%. Thats heavy use with angry birds and the like. I do also have installed setcpu (nothing fancy - just auto set) and auto killer with fairly aggressive setting. I am simply amazed by the addition of this tweak.

GREAT JOB --- thank you very much
[EVO 4G Android Development] Chris 2155:
Dude that's my point… the overall performance of the 4.1.9.1 kernel is terrible. So what I am trying to say is MS… your the man… you have succeeded… Now put this tweak on a kernel that will last like 4.2.1 or the htc kernel #11 or something so the battery after 90% doesn't just go to zero in 5 hours… I know what's going on… I understand… and MS your job I understand could be better but it doesn't matter if the rest of the battery performance is not as good. So I don't know if we could go back to the 4.2.1 kernel like number 131 or stock something… But the 4.1.9.1 is not good battery life overall… and the reason for that and the reason Nartchy made a new one is because it doesn't sleep well… and we all have our phones sleeping more than we do using them…
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Don't flash it then. Ms is working the tweak for charging nothing else. Go to your kernel of choice thread and make those suggestions. Ms is updating these kernels as a very nice gesture.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Chris 2155:
EXACTLY, and again, that's my point… he has done great, it is a great tweak, and my response to testing this out, is this… stop fixing -2mA's and try to get this thing to kick butt all day long… and once we do that, then this is the badest kernel in the world, and then he can place the icing on the cake and finish trickle charging, upping voltages and fixing -mA's….

LIKE I SAID IN THE ORIGINAL POST THIS IS MY 2CENTS… MS's job is done as far as I'm concerned… GREAT JOB! But the rest of battery life is what I am concerned with and everyone else is concerned with -mA's… we all had 100+ of negetive mA's before this… So just a few is no biggy… Therefore, I don't use trickle charge, Narchy's 4.2.1 is a much better build, hence me back on 131…

And by the way I thought this was a nice forum where we could share our thoughts on how we feel things are being developed… I'm not meaning to offend people, just share my thoughts… and I digress…
[EVO 4G Android Development] rdzlyz:
The V7 showed some -mA this morning while it was on the charger. I plugged my phone in at 1230am and about 5am -mA were showing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
different phone just react different based on their kernels...i have been trying these kernels since they came out and the only ones that gave me great battery life and stability were v5 and v7 (based on net's 4.1.9.1)...i was getting choppiness on anything other than the stable release and once it came out my battery life has been better and my cpu has been faster than ever...i guess the reason he's using that one is because net has found that 4.1.9.1 has worked for the majority of our phones and he wants to make sure he gets all the kinks worked out on a stable build so everything is ready to go on the newer builds and there are no inconsistencies...i suggest using 131 if you want a newer build...it never worked for me but thats cus the newer net kernels are too unstable for my phone...but 131 is in the "kernel hall of fame" and people who have been using it are more than impressed

EDIT: sorry...didn't realize you were already back to 131...i'm just a tad bit tired today...not enough sleep
[EVO 4G Android Development] Birdman26:
noob question what does non-HAVS mean
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Issue I found. I used the phone plugged into the car mount and car charger for 45 minutes. I was at 0 ma when I started this. When I got to my location I was down to 67% battery life. Why?, I kept it plugged in so it should have kept my phone charged. Why didn't it?

This is on sense rom with v7 kernel. I was using sprint navigation. Can this be fixed?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
IYour points about making it last all day aren't relevant to ms's work, your points are kernel specific. So him working on charging voltage has nothing to do with battery life. those should be directed in the kernel specific threads

It may be that your draining it faster than the usb charger can charge?
[EVO 4G Android Development] rrascal:
info from a noob

This v7 seems to be working very well.

It works like the alternator on your car. Your car will charge your 12v battery at 13.5 to 14.1 volts (roughly - more than your battery 12v). Also a car battery very rarely reads 12 v. it will read usually below because of drain and/or use (even parasitic drain) if it is not being charged.

Thats seems to be how ms/s rom is working from my experience. Also, I have been reading the messages in os monitor. It seems as though the charger also cycles between different modes. Reference messages switching to fast mode.

While using the evo plugged in of course minuses will occur. Then charging will start back up to combat this. Perfectly normal. Like your headlights dimming until your alternator catches up in your car (more rpm's).

Bottom line, I think MS has nailed this concept almost to perfection.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
USB charging is tricky...hook up your USB to the charger, then plug the USB into your phone. Wait for the LED to come on, unplug, wait for it to go out, then plug it right back in.

For some reason charging_enabled equals 0 the first time the phone is plugged into USB. So I just unplug the USB cord from my phone and then plug it back in and then it's all good.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
If that were the case why does the stock kernel not have this issue when I use navigation while plugged into car charger. With stock kernel I am charged when I get out of car. At this rate my battery will be dead if I went ibm long trip. Red light should go back on at a certain drop for normal changing not keep trickle charging. My light stayed green entire trip on v7
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Never mind
[EVO 4G Android Development] pdxsam:
Yessir. Several times. In further playing, when I plug in and let it stay connected even though the light is out, when I unplug the battery indicator stays at the same point.

If I reboot the phone, the battery indicator shows there was indeed a charge and the percentage increases.

Hopefully this helps troubleshoot a bit more.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Sometimes I have to reboot for the widget to act right
[EVO 4G Android Development] dan.kels.r:
HAVS- Hybrid Adaptive Voltage system or sum ****. non havs means it not undervolted
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Well the trickle charge thing is kinda working out for me, but for some reason I'm getting some sick drain..
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Try killing all tasks and see if that helps, are you oc'd?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sugewhite:
im getting a drain also...big time. I unplugged at 6pm and im down 25%. This its with the new kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Depends on what you're doing. 4.1.9.1 doesn't sleep as well as 4.2.1. But 4.2.1 doesnt work that well when the screen is on...so you gotta kinda just pick which one is more for you. The new v7 is like 131 but for 4.1.9.1. So you can use 131 if ya want.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Already done it, and no.

System panel is doing that crap where it says my "system" task is using a high amount of cpu. It's also creating a lot of "device" usage, whatever that is. Battery is just dying a little too quick for my taste, but then so did stock CM6. Sigh lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] iamsavedme30:
Being honest, the downloads are a bit confusing.

Sent from my second best friend in the world.
[EVO 4G Android Development] devonkosa:
came from hero, now an evo, first time flashing a kernel... EVER! :)

so, just to be clear, because i dont want to mess up my beautiful new phone, all i have to do is wipe dalvik & cache, flash kernel, and reboot? after I root, can I do this with the default rom? and what are the chances of me bricking my phone doing this? Thanks :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Yes, Yes, and zero if you do what you said :P
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
Rom? What rom are you using? Also are you sure you have nothing like battery tweak installed or anything that's sucking your battery or causing system issues?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
It's all in my sig, and believe me, I'm sure
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
i was having decent results with v7...

but once the battery hit 30% or less it dropped like a ROCK, with NO usage...

i had to switch to something else because i just cant deal with that...

im currently on v5, we will see how that works out..
[EVO 4G Android Development] stevcha:
If trickle charging wasn't working wouldn't I be seeing the -ma's as soon as the battery hit 100%? It seems like the trickle charging was working then just shut off based on the log stats. Just trying to make sense of it all.
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
yea sigs dont show in tapatalk pro.

but then i dont really know lol..
[EVO 4G Android Development] whitedragon33:
Great results with v7 on hw 0004, with Stock Turbo ROM. Currently at 98% 4111mV after 1 hour 30 minutes off USB. Awesome work, thanks so much!
[EVO 4G Android Development] kenny111008:
So I accidentally under clocked my phone ( changed it to 528 max 128 min save battery the night before and never changed it back to 998-128) and my phone only lasted me 8hours today with light usage that's terrible ..I'm on myn rls4 using v7 0002 evo usually my battery rapidly drains with the phone screen on but today even with under clocking it my battery only lasts 8 hours -__- what are you guys doing that you get such great hours of usage ..no I don't have an app keeping my phone awake no I don't use the toggles my awake time was only 2 hours which makes matters even worse and all I did was browse xda and make a few short calls
[EVO 4G Android Development] Abracastabya:
Totally...100% agreed
[EVO 4G Android Development] mlmob:
4.1.9.1 seems to be working well - v7 baked enough to see 4.2.2 builds? I'm missing the smartass governor from there...
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
you shouldnt even be using set cpu to underclock or anyhing...

the kernel already does that on its own...

leave the clock rate alone, then just set a screen off profile.. 245min 245max whatever governor u want...i like conservative.

something you are using is draining your battery...

first just try like i said... leave the clocking alone, leave it stock max998. then just set a screen off profile...

dont use 128 either.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kenny111008:
thats what i do yesterday was he first time i messed with the clock and i have a screen off profile of 245-128 conservative even when i dont mess with the cpu the battery still drains when the screen is on
[EVO 4G Android Development] blazin-asian:
im having a very strange problem. when i plug the USB cord in, it charges for about a second then stops. i have tried v5 and v7 and both suffer the same problem, but it goes away when i flash back to regular kernel. i have also tried 2 usb cables and different ports as well.

usb trickling would be nice if it actually charged =(

i am using Myns Warm ROM v4
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jay321:
Lovin v7... keep up the good work

htc evo myn 2.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
i would say remove set cpu completely and let the phone run with the kernel for a couple days, wipe the battery stats as well...

if its still draining like crazy after that its because you have something running sucking data or something...
[EVO 4G Android Development] sbmf66:
I have been reading this fast topic for the last two days, as best I can LOL.

I have just gone 7 hours on a charge and am only at 73%! Cannot say enough.

I am using RLS4,with the 131 zip. I will post a screen shot shortly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slackwaresupport:
which one is the newest!!! this is soooo unorganized. :

is 4.1.9.1 the newest or freaking 4.2.2

v1.2 Builds- These have USB trickle charging.

SBC for Netarchy's 4.2.2 More Aggressive

12/21/10: v1.3 Build(s) - New voltage limits + AC/USB trickle charging

SBC for Netarchy's 4.2.2 More Aggressive

SBC for Netarchy's 4.2.2 Less Aggressive

SBC for Netarchy's 4.2.2 Non-Havs

12/22/10 v1.4 Build(s) - Edited AC/USB trickle charging. Should see some great results now and hopefully no more -mAs!!

SBC for Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 More Aggressive

12/23/2010 v1.7 Build - Should work on every rom. The problem with v1.4 was that with some roms, the charger wasnt turning on. When the phone was charging, it wasnt because of my code, it was because of something else in the file telling the charger to turn on just to hit 100% even though the charger wasnt on (I still dont know why this only happened on certain roms..). I removed that so now all charging is regulated by my code.

SBC for Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 More Aggressive
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
the one with the newest date.
[EVO 4G Android Development] blazin-asian:
nobody else has experienced the issue where it charges for a second then stops? ive just tried 131 and still the same thing. something is wrong here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Load version 7
[EVO 4G Android Development] slackwaresupport:
ya.. thats my question.. which one! why would someone make a 4.1 newer than the 4.2??? so is it 4.2 or the 4.1
[EVO 4G Android Development] VDub2174:
4.1 v7 is the new one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slackwaresupport:
thanks! why would someone number their releases backwards??!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] VDub2174:
Just downloaded v7 earlier tonight and I must say that this is an awesome kernel!! All I did was wipe cache and dalvik before flashing and all went well. I didn't get to fully charge my phone but it did go down only 3% in 2 hours (from 80% to 77%).
[EVO 4G Android Development] ronyoung08:
Guns be any updates for asop kernels?
[EVO 4G Android Development] luckylui:
V7 is a BEAST!!! Followed by Baked Kernel #6!

Great work OP on V7, its showing my phone whos boss lol

Sent from Point A to Point B
[EVO 4G Android Development] mr5parkle:
The kernal is so great it led me to my first donation.

Great work!
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
v = version

ms v1.7 is higher than all the other v1.x's listed

which means latest

ms is working on net's stable 4.1.9.1

net's 4.2.2 are betas

hope that helps clear up the confusion
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
goes right to the heart

when i hear ms 131 and BSK #6 ! bravo !

htc #17 joined em in my book
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Spoken like a true snacks fan too, bs# 6 plus this mod is Savage status
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
<3 htc #17