yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] bignibb:
man oh man

Im using Zone23's 1.7.1 and 4.2.2 no havs version 7 with collins battery tweak with a 2600 mAh battery and I have been off charger for 14hrs and still at 100% I made one 2min phone call and cheched 2 text messages and the rest of the time has been on standby. I use my phone as needed so if i dont need it, I dont use it.

With this kernel and my phone habbits, I can see going 3 maybe 4 days without charging it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] javidnky2005:
Please tell me all your system configs
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrjeancw:
i am usinv V8 on sprint lovers rom and nothing else...phone is laggy...not as smooth as before. any ideas? thinking to go to v7 more agressive to see if it resolves.
[EVO 4G Android Development] yamaford:
No dice on the battery stats. Its almost like its affecting the port. The usb wont stay online . It connects then disconnects. I say this because after the first successful charge, the usb will not connect to the computer anymore. Flash back to V2 and all is well. Flashing back to V8 now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] M Diddy:
Guys quick question.

I'm running EvoNonSense 4.1 with all radios, etc updated, and downloaded and installed the SBC-net-4.2.2-less-havs-cfs-v7 kernal from the second post but on the phone, it shows the kernal as being SBC-net-4.2.2-more-havs-cfs-v7.

I also downloaded and installed the No havs from the page but the phone is still showing more havs.

Is there something I'm missing here?
[EVO 4G Android Development] yamaford:
Im back on V8 and its charging. Im going to try and keep an eye on logcat as it gets close to 100% but im not sure what im looking for. Im at 88% now so if anybody has any ideas id appreciate it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cds36:
I'm on 4.1.9.1 more havs v7, should I be using setcpu ? I have only screen off profile set to conservative. Not sure if I should be using it at all

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Android Development] SYNTHAXXX:
Can't charge

I am having the same issue that someone had mentioned.

I have tried a few different builds and get the same problem. I plug in the charger, the phone starts charging for about half a second, and then stops. I can't charge the phone. Any ideas yet? Any solution?
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
have you tried v7 or any other .. and you dont have hardware 004 right
[EVO 4G Android Development] lmatth13:
Where did you download Collins Battery Tweak?
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
I am running v4 4.2.2 more HAVS. Is there a difference between that and v7 4.2.2 more HAVS? If not, I don't want to switch, but if the batt life is said to be better...I wanna try it. Anyone know?
[EVO 4G Android Development] luckylui:
Check myns thread OP Page

Sent from Point A to Point B
[EVO 4G Android Development] lmatth13:
That's okay, I found a good download link.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Roymus:
There seems to be a problem with the links. I downloaded the SBC-net-4.2.2-nonhavs-cfs-v7.zip (2.9 MB), but when I installed and checked my software version on the phone, it says SBC-net-4.2.2-more-havs. I did this twice just to be sure. Is it possible the wrong file was associated with the non-havs link? I use an extended battery and prefer the non-havs versions of netarchy as they seem to be more stable on my phone than havs, although the more-havs version I installed has been running pretty smooth for a day or two now. If I can't get the non-havs, I will probably go ahead and install the less-havs version.
[EVO 4G Android Development] smallba:
Ms Didn't Change The File Name So it Is shown as More-havs but It Is Really No-Havs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] smallba:
Sprint Lover Is a Sense Rom, V8 is a ASOP Build, Why Don't You Try The SBC-Net Kernels? They Are Sense Kernels
[EVO 4G Android Development] crstfr:
so how many versions are there.....i mean i have paris laptop #16.... some say they have other #'s of the kernals...
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Yes the versions are for the changes in the battery tweak
[EVO 4G Android Development] intheb0x:
Are you up to date on your radios and pri?

If not do that and see if it's still laggy afterwards.

Flash the all in one file.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Either that or if you are oc'd throttle down or try wiping caches and a couple of reboots
[EVO 4G Android Development] smallba:
He Has Recently Updated All The Kernels To Version 7, So Some Of are still Using Older Version Of The These Kernels.

I Just Flashed V7 No-Havs 4.2.2, I Was Currently Running V5 4.1.9.1 More-Havs
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mfeigley:
Charger Turning Off

When I leave my phone on the charger all night, the ma's get down to 0, and every so often a 1, but then when I start using the phone while plugged in, the charger doesn't kick on, so I get large negative ma's even though it still says it's fully charged. Any fix for this planned?

Hardware and software in my sig.
[EVO 4G Android Development] javidnky2005:
Check out these stats, is there something I could do different in my configuration in order to get better battery life.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luigic81:
Hey everyone, I just flashed the SBC 4.2.2 more havs last night, and I'm still getting the -ma's while charging, can't figure out why...

stats:

Root method: Unrevoked 3

Recovery: Clockwork mod

ROM: Myn's warm 2.2 Rls 4

Kernel: obviously SBC 4.2.2 more havs (or as it it says on my phone 2.6.32.27-netarchy-toastmod-4.2.2-cfs-havs-more)

Hardware: 0003

Baseband: 2.15.00.09.01

software number: 3.30.651.3

PRI: 1.77_003

PRL: 60671

This is my first post on this forum so it wont let me post up my photobucket pic of the battery widget, but I had it charging all night, and still had all -ma's and still had the immediate 10% drop on battery right off the charger, thanks!

Setcpu scaling is set to "conservative" wit 998 max and 245 min, all profiles are disabled
[EVO 4G Android Development] Adam1422:
collins battery tweak question with v7 4.2.2 kernel

If you can get the collins battery tweak to work is it going to give you even better battery life with having v7 4.2.2 kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] wallaceb:
I would also like to verify if anyone knows if this is true or not. I am sure it probably is, but the "damage" to the battery likely will not be seen within the 2 or so years most people will have their phone.

anyways... does anyone have an idea?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] allroy1975:
you're exactly right. To be honest, most of the day yesterday I worked from home, and my phone sat on the bed all day and simply alerted me of texts and e-mails and I'd check them on my PC. I did use it quite a bit last night and yesterday afternoon. I downloaded SMS Backup + and backed up a couple thousand texts/mms over wifi. Sent a bunch of texts and surfed some web while watching hockey. Monday I took my kids out to lunch and I did some research for work on the phone. and listened to some subsonic (that probably cached up before I left the house, so it was playing but not truly streaming) while we drove around.

I used the phone but in no way would I say I used it heavily. I would say light use at best. I don't think I've ever had a situation though where no matter how light my use was I was even close to 50 percent after a day's use. and by that I mean like 16 hours.

I'll check out SystemPanel

all of them? really? I'll start by saying I use the 1up sound from Super Mario Bros for my email notification and Pac-Man start song for all texts. Do you want to be more specific, or should I go on? ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] rwstarke:
I also just flashed yesterday.

Hardware: 0004

Touch Panel: ATMELC03_16ac

HBOOT: 0.97.000

Baseband: 2.15.00.11.19

ROM: Calkulin's EViO 2 ROM v1.7.1

Kernel: 2.6.32.27-SBC-net-4.2.2-more-havs-cfs-v7

Software: 3.70.651.1

PRI: 1.90_003

NV: 1.90_003

PRL: 60674

WiMAX: 27167_R01

ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1
[EVO 4G Android Development] lmatth13:
Can i get those sounds ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
^Ditto.......
[EVO 4G Android Development] javidnky2005:
Does anyone know?
[EVO 4G Android Development] allroy1975:
I use Zedge. They're in there. ;)

also, I use Ms. Pac-Man for my wife. but this isn't contributing to the greater SBC good. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] shaun0207:
I tried installing and using this Kernel "SBC for Netarchy's 4.2.2 More Aggressive CFS "and screwed up my phone. It made all the colors on my phone act up and then the screen started having a bunch of line in it like when a TV goes bad.

Which one of these should I have used for a Stock , Rooted 3.70 deodexed Rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] yamaford:
Ive been keeping up with this thread for quit some time. I've reed them all. V2 is the only one that works consistently. I'm off charge now running it down a bit to see if it charges back up. I've got full rundown on what ice done today. I'll post it in a little while.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Spacegoogie:
Screen tairing

Hey guys, thanks for your hard work. I'm running CM6.1.1 w/ SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.1.9.1 SBC-net-4.1.9.1-more-havs-v7.zip (2.9 MB)

Normally when I do the whole battery charge thing (leave on all night, then turn off wait for the green light, pull plug, plug back in, wait for green, and so on) This kernel is AMAZING! just a few min of web browsing 45min later battery is at 100%! WOW :D Now the only thing I'm having problems with is I'm getting alot of screen tearing on all parts of the screen. So why is this? Also when I try to use the camcorder I get FC. If someone could help me out and maybe point me to the correct kernel or tell me what i'm doing wrong I would much apprecheate it. Thanks guys,

Take Care
[EVO 4G Android Development] luckylui:
So after experiment for the past couple days kernel 130 does the job on my phone. Keeps my ma down in the teens and not in the hundreds as i see that when its in the hundreds it sux up battery like a mad man, but we all good w the 130 :)

Sent from Point A to Point B
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cyclonut:
+1 for me also
[EVO 4G Android Development] sidewinder0000:
This will be awesome, I've been running CFS 4.1.9.1 v7 for a while and love it. My wife has an Incredible and she is very jelious of my battery life. If you need anyone to test it, I would be more than happy to help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Back to the future huh?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tankcole:
Are these kernels compatible with the latest 0004 Hardware for the Evo? (I want to keep my camera :p)
[EVO 4G Android Development] terence74:
Ziggy

What happened no Ziggy love :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Hit up ziggy and tell him to check out ms's github
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
OK...I just flashed v7 from v4...I was not getting any -MAs...Dear God I hope I dont now...
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Yeah, ms is tightening up each version
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrcrptguy:
WOW, I finally got 132 to flash and it is EXTREMELY smooth and snappy!!!!! Next going to check the battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luigic81:
Anyone have any suggestions for me?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcrabapple:
I just flashed less-havs-v7 on calkulin's rom and let it charge for about half an hour past 100%. It was at 8mA for a while then trickled down to 0mA and stayed there for a while. Then eventually went back and forth between -1 and -2 for about 15 minutes or so. Then I unplugged it.

What does it mean if it eventually goes negative?
[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
16 minutes past 100% 24mA > 4205mV

v7 more
[EVO 4G Android Development] allroy1975:
Looks like I'm back down to earth today, on a much more normal day. In the office (still on waps) but out and about a lot more and using the phone a whole lot more.

Still, off the charger @ 8 am, and I'm down to 17going to bed at almost 1 am.

Can't complain at all. :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] MadDogMaddux:
FWIW, I'm using Myn's RLS4 and now 4.95 with the more aggressive v7 Net2.2, and am still getting -ma all night. Usially no more than a few each tic.

More significantly, I've never been able to charge it over 4194.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rwcj63:
best setcpu settings?

So what ARE the best settings for the best results? Or perhaps not using it at all?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tipharet:
Same

10char
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
I had the same problem with Myn's and V7 4.2.2

I switched to 4.2.1 V7 (131) and it works great!

Might want to give it a try

eins
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkdude36:
you have probably all seen this, but http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=890448 . things are getting interesting over there.

ms, what are your thoughts on this??? i would love to hear from the maker.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Well I think it's ridiculous to be honest. There are a lot of variables taht people aren't looking at, so for me, it's a tough call when it comes to saying how much "damage" is being done to the battery. I personally don't even think about it, I would like to have as much battery as possible. I paid $500 for this phone and it's a bunch of bull that right now, people are making it seem like you have to choose between having a battery with little damage and only 85-90% for the day, or having the full battery with some damage and 100%. I get a lot of messages about that, and its just ridiculous. I just want to put it like this: Since this tweak, I can basically use my phone how I want to. None of that setCPU profile crap, juice defender, that tasker or w/e its called. When I pull my phone off the charger, I no longer have to hunt for the charger midday just for some extra power. You shouldnt have to put so much faith into the charger midday. Now with these threads and concerns with battery wear and tear, they are basically breaking it down like this: Which would you rather have happy? You or your battery? For those that choose the battery, and would much rather have a nice battery taht will last years even though I doubt they will be keeping their phones for years...good for them. As for me, I need as much power as possible.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jbcarrera:
Ok any help here would be appreciated when in sleep my phone on 4.22 sbc is at -80ma when in use off the charger between -284&-560 its killing my battery any help on this

BTW its the no havs version

Sent from my EVO at the edge of hell
[EVO 4G Android Development] fixxxer2008:
i don't use any custom settings or setcpu with this kernel.

even at work where i have a bad signal i still get decent battery life, just not as great.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tonwarr.the.incredible:
I posted this in the linked thread but figured I'd post at the source as well...lol.

I feel the "market engineers" would probably rather you think there's a problem the battery so you replace it. Our whole society is based on supply and demand so half-truths and scare tactics are gonna be used, just as they are in government, to keep up the status quo and continue lining their pockets. I guess at the end of the day its all business...lol

I honestly feel this tweak does more good than bad by keeping the battery at lower temps and controlling the end of the charging cycle minimizing wear on the battery. I'm no engineer though, just a common sense thinker...
[EVO 4G Android Development] jelive:
Well said. It's kinda funny in a way...many folks will O/C, flash stuff willy nilly, mess with the SD card, etc. thinking nothing about the possible consequences to the expensive phone itself. Now their worried about their poor battery...:D

Keep up the good work

Jim
[EVO 4G Android Development] crstfr:
this has been working 100% for me... ..i'm making 12 hrs with a full battery... and thats all i ask.. i wanted this to last from when i woke up, till i ended my work day.. its work/personal phone... it does all that and then some.....

proof is in the pudding~

+2 for you ms

edit :oh and having my 4g on and scanning .... rapes my battery.... ..example.. 30 min drive to work... with 4g scanning... arrive at work..90%... without it on.. arrive at work 100%...its ridiculous.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] soundwavedj:
Getting alot of negative MA's with 4.2.2 v7 no havs
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jbcarrera:
me too but no one is listening to me!
[EVO 4G Android Development] VisedMonk:
Sorry for the long post. Keep in mind that I'm not an engineer or a chemist, but a lawyer. And I'm going to keep using these v7 kernels until I hear otherwise from MS. HTC and Sprint would be lucky to have him working for them. I'll trust him rather than one of the so-called experts that only want to throttle our phones rather than let us use them to their full potentials.

Even so, here are my 2 cents:

1. That post was about the alleged damage that may or may not occur with bump charging. Most of us on this thread are using the v7 trickle charge kernels.

2. I don't think that the earlier post of an article (here: http://is.gd/jLP4a) that said keeping Li-on batteries at 4.2v shortens battery life has much validity.

First, it qualifies almost every statement about potential damage to batteries - "could damage", "may lead to damage", etc. He/She doesn't definitively state that trickle and bump charging will damage the battery.

Second, the author talks about getting "longer service life" out of the battery. Most of us don't keep our phones long enough for this to be an issue. Most of us have our phones for 12 to 18 months at most. Thanks, but I would rather have the extra 10% on my battery and the extra 2 or 3 hours of use but have to purchase another battery, which can be had for around $10, during the 18 months I'll have my phone. Most of us probably already have a spare anyways.

Third, the author states that plating occurs at voltage levels about 4.3V (4,300 mV). The absolute highest I have seen while using one of these SBC kernels is 4,210 mV. Also, my battery is typically at 4,202 mV when I take it off the charger in the morning. Seems obvious to me that these kernels aren't charging our batteries anywhere near 4.3V (4,300 mV).

Fourth, the post's author admits that our batteries have circuits that "limit the charge voltage to 4.30V/cell" and have temperature sensors that "disconnect the charge if the cell temperature approaches 90°C (194°F)." I don't know about you, but my battery temperature is around 77°F when I take it off the charger in the morning. As I use my phone throughout the day, the battery temperature rarely rises about 95°F. Again, it seems obvious to me that this is nowhere near the 90°C (194°F) threshold the post talks about.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tonwarr.the.incredible:
You've just made a very strong "case" and created enough "reasonable doubt" to determine trickle charging is innocent! Very well said...!
[EVO 4G Android Development] blackte4:
Great kernel.... I'm getting the best battery life ever. It's going on 15 hours with 30% to go. Thank you Thank You and Thank you. Now I can tell a iPhone user to stay by the plug.
[EVO 4G Android Development] soundwavedj:
just flashed this this morning. this version anyway. my negative numbers were up in the hundreds it was kinda scary. does anyone else have a previous versionno havs that works better than v7?
[EVO 4G Android Development] fldino1963:
using MikFroyo-v4.1 Logical sense + SBC net 4.2.2 non havs-v7 do i need to use setcpu if so what settings do i use
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
new kernel source released @ HTC
[EVO 4G Android Development] JBlazersp:
does this mean i can use this kernel and my new camera hardware in the near future? :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] aph:
Yup... all the kernel folks will be all over this
[EVO 4G Android Development] demspake:
thanks! now...

awesome! now im assuming i should wipe batt stats and sd-ext b4 the flash, is this correct? thanks and happy holidays
[EVO 4G Android Development] tonwarr.the.incredible:
No need to wipe batt stats when using this kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
flash 131. Those issues should all be fixed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] yamaford:
Ms79723, it seems to be trickle charging now but every 3 minutes it discharges -124 -142 then right back to charging at 104 144 106...my Max is 4206 mv. And my minimum 4162. These numbers are from. Idle with the screen off. Should we be allowing it to sleep now? I've tried it both ways with the same results.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
Okay, first you'll want to gain root access. Search and pick which is best for you. Most will advise against unrevoked. It has worked for me on my dads phone.

Then to flash this kernel simply install onto sd then reboot into.recovery ( you'll know what that means by the time youre here.).choose the file for install from sd card

Letit do its thing.

Youre done.

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 08tundra:
Only been off the charger for about 2 hrs and down to 79% any help???
[EVO 4G Android Development] 08tundra:
Thanks for ur response
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
Even if you press lock key?

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
is your mA still positve once hitting 100% and reaching 4205? thats the key thing to look forward to. And idk why the voltage spikes up that high...it always goes back down and the temperature even cools off. My phone was ice cold in the morning and i had a perfect charge. I was happy :)

Is your phone rooted yet?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
I am charging back up, I didn't look for positive voltage.will update with pictures.

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lamboh:
donloaded and flashed 131...but i had net's 4.2.1 cfs smartass more agg kernel before, and i know that this kernel should be the same..but what do everyone else has listed under menu, settings, about, software info , kenerl???
[EVO 4G Android Development] referendum:
Will this lower the lifespan of the battery by charging it to 100% every time?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Ah, dont worry about that. The specific stuff under software info only seem to show up on the DesireHD build. I switched to a stock Sense build for right now and it doesnt show that its build #131, but I know for a fact it is. You'll know for a fact too once you hit 100%
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
I took a picture of kernel.

Here's results after 5 minutes.

Edit: from 131, the negative volts are from 125 I believe.

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I'm confused...so after 5 mins after reaching 100%...are you still getting some negative mA's?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
That's what I'm reading, but this is 130.. No different from 131 performance wise, correct

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
Not with 130.

Those were with 125 is my guess.

Here is updated..

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Ok..im trying to understand this...The picture you uploaded that shows your history is showing all negative mA's once reaching 100%, but the last two pictures are showing positive mA's...That's what's confusing me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
ok ok, now that pic is more like it. Once you get down to 40mA then you'll know that its doing good work. But if you start to see negative mA's again, lemme know.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ChrisAC84:
Mine has been off the charger for 3 hours and 14 minutes, and it's still at 93 percent. I am loving this kernel!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ghodzilla5150:
I am using SBC-net 4.2.2 v7 More Agressive (with MYN's Warm 2.2 RLS 4) and here are my results after 24 hours of being unplugged. I have 41% battery left. I have everything turned on (WiFi, Bluetooth, SYNC, GPS etc. etc. NO 4g Thou). I have made many calls, texting, e-mails, surfing internet. I am using Stock Battery. This Kernel is FRIGGIN AWESOME:D Thanks MS
[EVO 4G Android Development] flipper12:
MS79723 - Now that the kernel's been released by HTC, I'll be waiting anxiously for your latest release which will allow me to use my camera