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[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
I think the Nexus phones are Google's iPhone. It is untouched by Carrier bloatware, and untouched by phone brand UI's. This is the "pure" Android experience, sort of how iPhone is the "pure" Apple phone experience, but they only have one phone anyways, so sort of hard to compare, but you get my drift.

Is the Nexus-S gonna be the top dog hardware, no. But it will always be up to date with the current OS, and not really needing any custom roms, just a root. Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware. I like the virgin Nexus, even if she is a little slower :)

Every Christmas time there will be a new Nexus, running the latest OS, sort of like every summer there is a new iPhone. I hope this keeps going.
[Nexus S General] deprecate:
even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.

I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1 :)
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
Agreed, I would not want to be beta tester on the first gen of dual core phones, could be buggy, or could not offer any performance gains until the Android OS is totally ready for it . Now a dual core Nexus development phone would be nice.
[Nexus S General] ksc6000:
Probably going to return mine

This phone is nice, but I really don't c much performance upgrade over my Nexus One. When I tried to watch some flash videos, it was just as choppy as my Nexus One...I was very disappointed. I think right before the remorse period is over I will return the phone and go back to my N1.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
I visited Best Buy during lunch and got to play with a demo unit. The first impression is that the phone feels cheap. Yes, we've read about this many times in reviews, but I don't think one realizes it until one has it in their hands. It feels like a toy. And for whatever reason, it feels cheaper than the Vibrant; maybe because of expectations (Nexus branding and all)? I don't know. In some ways, the Vibrant's cheapness still feels like quality.

Granted, I was only using it for no more than 5 minutes, I was quite underwhelmed. Gingerbread sure is smooth, though.
[Nexus S General] southeastbeast:
Driving home with mine right now. 30 day return policy with no restocking fee. Ill see how gb does on my nexus one also and if I find any buyers. If gb flies on n1 and no buyers ill return. Can't wait to get home and charge it then wait till its done before I use. Fffuuuuuuu

Sent from my sexy nexy
[Nexus S General] tenbeau:
I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
[Nexus S General] shawn1224:
... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.

Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
[Nexus S General] uansari1:
If you're getting FC's out of the box, do a full reset of the phone. If it keeps doing it even afterwards, then exchange it.
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
This is my first Samsung device and I disagree with the folks saying that it feels cheap or like a toy. My only complaint about it's build quality after having played with it for the last several hours is that I wish they had used some rubberized texture coating or something because the phone is pretty slick.

I'm sure I'll get used to it though and adjust my grip accordingly.

LOL I'm writing that one down. :)
[Nexus S General] Cheeze[iT]:
I get the occasional FC. I'll let it iron it self out, if it becomes more frequent then I'll think about returning it but what device, thats new, works with no hitches right out of the box right?
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
Mr. Jobs says the iPhone. :D

As long as you're not holding it wrong, that is.
[Nexus S General] Mactagonist:
I made a few posts this morning about how happy I was with the Nexus S and what a nice (albeit minor) upgrade it was from my Nexus One.

Tonight, I am very happy I havnt yet sold that Nexus One. :)

Who ever decided that the Nexus S didnt need the same (or better) multiple microphone noise cancelation system the Nexus One has is a god damn moron who probably uses his phone in his bedroom and nowhere else. :mad:

I was out and about in midtown on 5th Ave and downtown near Wall St. for most of the afternoon and the sound quality on the Nexus S is unusably bad in a noisy environment. My callers cant hear me well at all, while they hear every whisper in the background clear as a bell. It is absolutely infuriating and it guarantees that the Nexus S is going back to Best Buy sometime in the next 30 days.

I have used the Nexus One all year in the same environments and it has gotten nothing but praise for its sound quality.
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
It's amazing. If you think otherwise, you're an imbecile, and you need to leave and stop trolling.
[Nexus S General] calin75:
As you can see, there's more - than + about switching from N1 to NS imho.
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
If they don't like it then they can return it. Simple. Quit complaining?
[Nexus S General] daeshawn:
Honestly I think everyone is just a little annoyed at the fact that the Nexus S seems to be a Galaxy S with a few extra things here and there. It's sort of like what Samsung originally intended the Galaxy S to be but didnt go with. Kinda like the Nexus One vs the HTC Desire..basically the same phone if you really look at it. Me personally Imma stay with my Nexus one.
[Nexus S General] koljenovic:
I got my Nexus S a few days before the release date with a test build of Gingerbread I'm still using. Before this I was a devoted iPhone user, but not anymore, this thing is so much better that it really hardly compares. Coming from iPhone and being an avid dropbox user lack of SD card is not an issue for me, the things I find super useful are the widgets, speed and great tp services integration. Have fun and stay well :)
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
That's funny. I think Galaxy S has few extras over NS
[Nexus S General] greenstuffs:
You must have been an apple fan or you need to grow up
[Nexus S General] ksc6000:
Wow, way to bring your homophobia to a tech forum. Go back to your right wing hate forums and don't come back.
[Nexus S General] LordLugard:
OMG !! I nearly spat out the delicious papajohns pizza i was stuffing into my mouth... :mad:
[Nexus S General] shawn1224:
Don't get your panties in a bunch I was just being a little facetious.

Lets not draw attention away from the fact that Samsung just has a poor track record when it comes to Android devices.
[Nexus S General] DKYang:
Blah blah blah.

Fact: Samsung made the hardware, Google is controlling the software.

Fiction: Samsung controlling hardware and software.

How many times does this need to be said?
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
You know what? I apologize. I just want to hear the positives about this device, not the negative. Obviously I wish that they put more thought into this device (MicroSD, noise cancellation, etc) but complaining about it won't make the features appear... idk, we should just be happy we have the ability to purchase this fine equipment and that we're fortunate enough to experience them... idk, I don't know, I obviously have a lot of faith in the Nexus line, and I want it to succeed.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Dont stress out about it...go to bestbuy and use their model and I promise you wou will love it right away! GPS works, very fast os/hardware combo and ohhhh the screen is to die for so I say forget reading forums for a day and check it out thats what I do. Some times forums get me depressed about problems so take some time off.
[Nexus S General] Zorachus:
Yep the screen is amazing. Very beautiful and rich. And I like the feather lightweight of this phone compared to my brick of SN EVO. But the size of this screen feels much smaller than the evo. Like the text and keyboard look super tiny...oh well still like this over my evo 6.1 no regret.

Can't wait to see my brother and sister thus weekend who both own iPhone 4. Like to compare them side by side.

I admit a jailbreak iPhone 4 is pretty cool but ATT blows.
[Nexus S General] Roxas316:
Best quote +1
[Nexus S General] Mactagonist:
So do I. That is why I spent $577 this morning. But I discovered that these shortcomings arnt just theoretical, for me at least it just isnt usable. Since I love everything about the Nexus S except for its horrible sensitivity to background noise this has me a little pissed at the moment.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
The general consensus of this phone at this board and others seem tremendously underwhelming. And a variety of issues make Nexus S seem unworthy of a $580 dollar price tag. I was on the fence, but now becoming more and more deterred from taking the plunge.
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
Google has the power to make the best phone EVER. Hardware and software alike... why do they NOT do that?
[Nexus S General] calin75:
I could add that is not appealing enough to make me wanna switch from at&t to t-mobile.
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
What are the variety of issues? Just curious since the Nexus S I have doesn't seem to have any.
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
I'm switching tomorrow. I would like to give T-Mobile a try.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Because this is what hardware google wants....and what they want, I want.

They controle what the software does and I'll continue buying what they use in order to have the best marriage of software and hardware.
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
Hey man, I couldn't agree with you more man... The point I am trying to get across is that google has the power (easily) to make a phone that's truly revolutionary. HW and SW
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
The ones I've heard so far, pooled together from reviews and threads here, include issues with white screens, a green line running down the side of the screen, long GPS locks, poor browser scrolling, missing capacitive button lights, unresponsive touch screens, overheating, odd watermarks on screens, loose USB hinge (from the fellas at Android Central), and perhaps others I can't recall immediately.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
I get where your coming from now....I guess they were just tired of the nexus and wanted to switch up to different hardware and their vote was samsung lol but there will be more nexus hardware so thats going to be my phone of choice now....for me its Nexus or nothin (no pun intended) lol
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
Definitely agreed upon. I will NEVER buy an iPhone again. I promise. ;)
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Hahahaha you better not!! jk jk
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
I don't even want to. I don't know why I keep doing it. Gay :(

NEVER AGAIN!
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
Cruise control for tourettes

:p
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
haha i guess
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Well it up to you...Iphone could best suit you so who knows lol
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
I think I made my opinion pretty clear.
[Nexus S General] ritcereal:
I know a large number of people are focusing on how little of an upgrade and lack of features, but here is why I will not be returning my Nexus S after the 30 day remorse period!

The Screen!

Proper multi-touch (5 point)

4"

Looks outstanding!

Capacitive Buttons drove me crazy on my N1 (maybe it was just mine, but it always seemed to take extra effort to use them)

Front camera

Current CPU & GPU

Now I won't wish my N1 was more like the mt4g or g2

Improved speaker phone

AOSP

There are certainly things that the N1 has that the NS doesn't. Of which I've accepted, and i don't think I'll miss them, but that is largely dependent on how I personally use the phone. Obviously others will their own opinions. I remember when everyone was up in arms about the multi-touch on the N1 and everyone thought Google cheaped out, but the reality was for 99% of well, everyone the things the N1 didn't do well in, weren't really important, to some they were.

I welcome the Nexus S and am thus far happy with it!
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
Well said, and agreed upon. :)
[Nexus S General] ksweat2292:
is anyone dissapointed they bought the phone with no HSPA+?
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
Do you really need 14mbps? Without it you already get ~7.2mbps. Plenty for me.
[Nexus S General] defysword:
really need HSPA+? I dont think so.
[Nexus S General] immune15:
Taking credit for a biggie line. Ten crack commandments
[Nexus S General] AdamHart612:
I get WiMax everywhere I go...literally am never out of "4g." So no, I dont care. Only reason I see it mattering is tethering, and I can do that just fine on my Evo. Yeah it should be HSPA+....but its not an issue for me. My families HSPA+ phones get around 8 down while I get a consistent 12-20 down on WiMax. But with GVoce setup both phones ring so I'm happy. The best part? My work pays for my Evo and my ma pays for my Tmobile line. Gotta love it.

edit: 10 down at the moment, so not quite as quick as I said. But fast enough for a phone.
[Nexus S General] shrivelfig:
I don't get mad that other people don't like the same things I do, but I get damned tired when they follow me around *****ing and moaning about what a horrible choice I've made.

If you (or calin75) have no intentions of buying this phone, why are you (or calin75) posting in a dedicated forum for it? Over and over again, nothing but negative comments. You're really harshing our buzz here. Why?

What do you call it when somebody posts negative coments in forums where they arguably have no reason to be? Constructive criticism? Or trolling?

Yes, I got that. This is about expectations not being met, nothing else, those expectations being reasonable or not. Obviously you (and calin75) expected too much. So why don't you move on? This is a forum for the Nexus S. I'm going to get one. What's your excuse to continue to post here?
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
Best goddamn reply all night.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] AdamHart612:
Damn straight. And anyone that picked up an N1 should be smart enough realize that the NS is a significant upgrade from a pure tech perspective. Unless you figure the millions of triangles per second arent significant. Personally, I absolutely love my N1. Way better feel. But come on its as simple as looking at the spec sheet and playing with one...

My N1 is not even close to as snappy as my NS. Hell my Evo is damn quicker (all three rooted). The N1 is still my favorite of the bunch, and the one I like to show off. But that doesn't mean that tech doesn't advance every day...
[Nexus S General] kamesen:
heres the honest truth.

i dont own a nexus s or will be able to get one. there is something to be said about the fact that

google directly supports your hardware

. in a sense, i sure as hell wish i had one. its not about the lack of sd slot or "lackluster" cpu (anyone remember when they were buying 1ghz cpus for their desktops?).

to the OPs original question: the beauty of your phone won't be readily apparent right out of the box. that magic is not purely in the specs themselves. it will manifest when, for the next year at least, google will be coming up with innovative sh!t one after the other and it will be going directly to your phone. can you imagine when they really get that NFC chip going? nobody else will have that.

in its short lifespan look at what the nexus 1 helped do with android in the mainstream. if its any indication, google looks to accomplish that again with the nexus S. when history looks back (is looking back) at the nexus 1 they wont be talking about its hardware (it wasnt revolutionary when it came out either).

-a loving non-nexus owner
[Nexus S General] shawn1224:
Everybody rips a line here or there, respect my swagger jack :D
[Nexus S General] tekkitan:
It's a great upgrade from the G1. That is all I care about.
[Nexus S General] debro012:
Quote for truth
[Nexus S General] davados:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/8 have a look to see how the spec holds up
[Nexus S General] calin75:
You must be on Google payroll or something cause you are taking things too personal buddy. I am just expressing my frustration about the missed oportunity google had to really put the iphone back on the stone age again. Listen, I am an ANDROID fan, I would defend ANDROID to death anytime, anywhere. However, I may not be a GOOGLE fan, and I will criticize GOOGLE, or Samsung, or HTC, when they fail to deliver. First time I heard about the Nexus S, I said to myself, I want to get that phone. But after learning more about it, I started getting dissapointed; like why only t-mobile? why not SD card slot? why take away the track ball? is it Samsung's fault? was it a google decision?

I remember when I learned about the Nexus One; I had and iphone back then, and when I saw the Nexus One specs, I was literally drooling, and in no time I sold my iphone and got me a Nexus One. And I thank Google for opening my eyes.

This time however, is not even close.

And I will speak up, because the phone is intended for us, the buyers, the geeks, the fans; they are asking for our money; and in this case my answer is "thanks but no thanks Google."
[Nexus S General] calin75:
Awesome!!! In my case though, I get 18% discount on ATT, so it's like, 18% or Nexus S, 18% or Nexus S, 18% or Nexus S, naah!! I'll keep my 18%.
[Nexus S General] shrivelfig:
You must be on Google payroll or something cause you have remarkable insight into Google's intentions and plans for this phone.

Yes, we get that you are saying "no thanks". Is there any Nexus S forum thread at all that you haven't posted that interesting tidbit in? We get it already, Mr. Broken Record.

Ooh, lookit that, there's an ignore list! Woohoo! :D
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
This argument about "not needing HSPA+" is a farce. While it's true we don't need it, it's also true to say we don't need many features on our cell phones.

People are welcomed to have their own preference, but every time someone mentions disappointment about the NS lacking HSPA+ support, especially weighed by the fact that all carriers are venturing into "4G", saying we don't need it doesn't abate the disappointment.
[Nexus S General] calin75:
Go ahead and ignore me. I just hope Google is not making the same mistake and ignoring what people want in the future.

As for the number of posts, is there a limit on how many post I can make?
[Nexus S General] zeeklancer:
you are a fool.
[Nexus S General] hammondnav:
lol. You mad bro?

You've got such a low self-esteem that you need the approval of others to be happy about your purchase? I did say, if you really like it, great. And I did lay out, in reasonable terms, why I'm not interested. Get over yourself. If Google put their logo on a piece of floating turd you'd probably buy two.
[Nexus S General] Capt-CDD:
Well put Sir!

Calin76: Thanks and well put! I have been waiting , though not patiently for the release of the NS. I was ready to pull the trigger when it first leaked. Since then, there has been a rash of disappointing news as you listed. I too have decided to nix buying one and will wait for something worth updating to.

Seem there are some that have decided that you can only post here if you love the phone already. I though the concept of the thread was to forward our likes and dislikes for the product and clue the manufacturers into what we would like to spend our money on..
[Nexus S General] Cheeze[iT]:
I'm still on the fence between this or my mt4g... decisions decisions =\
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
I'm on the fence too about purchasing the Ns. I'm really just waiting to see what's going to be announced at CES. I think those on the fence will be able to make a better decision then.
[Nexus S General] Capt-CDD:
Too true! I think first quarter of 2011 should bring the fences down. At least I hope so!
[Nexus S General] Cheeze[iT]:
I'm not worried about then but more worried about now. I got the mt4g, vibrant and nexus s to compare side by side. I personally use the mt4g/nexus s and steal my brothers vibrant just to compare a bit.

IF they were both free, I'd pick the nexus S, hands down for simplicity and support... but thats not the case. Its costing me roughly $275 more for me to get the nexus s so I am trying to weigh my options. It all practicality, I believe I'm drawn to the nexus because 1) its new 2) not many people are going to have it 3) its a lot sleeker and it will be getting better support and quicker updates. Time to do some real testing like speaker/sound/video etc and see what really sticks. I could always use the money I save and get another device :eek:
[Nexus S General] ddgarcia05:
I do not own a Nexus S or a MyTouch 4G, but my dad has owned both. He returned the 4G for the Nexus S. I personally have a G2 which I like very much. I've played with both the 4G and the Nexus S. The NS kills the 4G. I hate expressio, and go over to the 4G forums you can see that there is little to no support for the phone. I don't care if it's a new phone you can clearly see that dev support around the 4G is not there. I would highly recommend when the choices are a 4G or NS is to pick the NS over and over.
[Nexus S General] Cheeze[iT]:
I wish it was as simple as returning it. Its more like keep the mt4g or pay an extra $275 for the nexus. Sure its a nice device but its almost like owning 2 devices for that price
[Nexus S General] Zenoran:
yer gay. without the sexual orientation.
[Nexus S General] Capt-CDD:
Fences make my Droids sore..

I'll wait for revolutionary and pass on evolutionary. Maybe a fresh baked Gingerbread ROM will get me excited.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
I'm beginning to feel I should wait too. The impressions so far are very underwhelming, and the excuses I hear for the phone's shortcomings are astonishing (for example, the cognitive dissonance required to essentially say lack of HSPA+ is acceptable because we don't need it. Well, to be consistent, we don't "need" many features on the phone).

The slew of complaints across multiple users are disheartening as well; screen problems, browser scrolling problems/lag, capacity buttons, phone restarting by itself, inability to d/l from the browser, blurry MMS picture quality, and accelerometer issues are just some I've read so far. There seems to be many others - and considering the back story of Google/Sammy's partnership, I wouldn't be surprised if production was rushed to ship before Christmas (Gingerbread, and all). I actually really enjoy Samsung products, but it's evident that build quality suffered to mass produce in time.

What successful features reported by early adopters do not seem to warrant a near $570 dollar price tag. The only silver lining is the fact that it gets direct and clean Google updates. It is now very apparent that the Google support is about the only thing worth purchasing the Nexus S for, and sadly, not much else (am I the only one disappointed by the touted "curved" glass?). Everyone's preferences and money matters are their own to make, but I am finding difficulty justifying a purchase, personally.

Like someone else said, "I really want to like this phone..."
[Nexus S General] ztm.000:
I love this phone oh so much.

Am i retarded for not being nitpicky and caring about things that coulda woulda shoulda?

****

No

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] uansari1:
HSPA+ really isn't a big deal in this situation. I've read one review and now talked to another person that are seeing the same speeds on the Nexus S as on either of T-mobile's HSPA+ phones.