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[Nexus S General] xspyda:
I just spoke to the sales team and was told yes we have them in stock (came in about 3pm I was told when I queried why I was told they were out of stock earlier) and the earliest for delivery will be Weds / Thurs next week - ie 29th / 30th.

I wonder if the sales team on the phone use the same allocation of stock as web orders?

I will place an order online if I can be sure I can cancel easily. Can anyone who is waiting on an order placed online confirm this?

edit: no matter - answered my own question!
[Nexus S General] Drew474:
Mate, well thats what im hoping! So hopefully for wednesday!
[Nexus S General] :
Snowing quite heavy in london, may not get delivery's tomorrow;(

JD
[Nexus S General] :
Stopped snowing here, tables have turned lol :)
[Nexus S General] :
Yep, we will be under fooking Mount Blanc tomorrow;) The good thing is roads in london will be gritted tonight, so them DHL guys should get off their asses and get our phones to us... Fooking earn your christmas money;P

JD
[Nexus S General] Lord_Buckington:
ITProPortal just did another article about the price cuts. They're saying that the O2 price plan which is £30/m, 18 months, free phone, does have 500MB of data despite what the Carphone Warhouse website says.

Any way we could check this? Or maybe if someone who ordered that plan could let us know if they did actually get data.
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
If so it's quite a fair deal.
[Nexus S General] :
I ordered that plan, but i wont be using the data as my mother is having the contract... what is also cool that i found out with that article is you can change your contract to a lower one after 9 months;)

JD
[Nexus S General] :
My phone is in transit from an office just 4 miles away;) Soit made it to London;)

JD
[Nexus S General] :
Mines at the Bristol depot, but not sure if it's coming straight here today or if there going to transfer it to the Swansea depot then my house.. time will tell.
[Nexus S General] Lord_Buckington:
Nice one, enjoy your phone! (when it arrives)

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus S General] :
If it arrives, lollol

cheers mate;)

I hope everyone gets their phones today, they seem so good that they feel elusive;) lol

JD
[Nexus S General] Lord_Buckington:
I'm still undecided about getting one, but the O2 deal is tempting

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
w00t! Make sure you post up some pics/initial thoughts when you've had a play! Hopefully collect one from store when they arrive tomorrow <excited>
[Nexus S General] edmacfly:
Mine is out for delivery from Bristol across to Wiltshire as of 7:21 this morning. Roads all clear here so fingers crossed I guess...
[Nexus S General] sn0wm0nkey:
Nexus S

Hi Guys Nexus S has just popped up on Mobiles.co.uk (Carphone subsidiary) they usually have slightly better deals, currently looks like the same deals at the moment though. Worth keeping an eye on it.
[Nexus S General] :
Arrived At Depot	21/12/10	01:45	BRISTOL TERMINAL

Parcel Picked Up	20/12/10	20:31	LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

That's all mine says so far...
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
Mine got to the Worcester store at 10am this morning. Just going to pick it up now.
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
ordered mine last night over phone on o2 and arrived at manchester store today.

cant wait to collect tommorrow! :) but will miss the N1, WHAT A PHONE!! will keep as back up now

anyone who has got one have any major issues??
[Nexus S General] englefield:
Mine arrived just now from carphone newb house. Charging it up now..
[Nexus S General] :
Well looks like I'm not going to get mine today.. :( Arrive this morning at 1.45 and still hasn't moved from Bristol Depot since then. I HATE SNOW! :) Rant over.
[Nexus S General] englefield:
And mine seems to be operator unlocked... nice :)
[Nexus S General] :
All of them are;/

;)

JD
[Nexus S General] englefield:
Ah... didnt know that. Pretty cool!
[Nexus S General] :
Yeah its typical of Google

They like nothing locked or closed source (except their own apps that is) lol

JD
[Nexus S General] Lord_Buckington:
Unfortunately that 18 month O2 deal seems to have disappeared. They obviously realised it was a bit too generous.
[Nexus S General] Drew474:
I really don't understand how new orders are sent out before pre-orders. Anyways everyone seems to be receiving them ok
[Nexus S General] :
Not all of us, mine is stuck in dartford due to the poxy service of DHL who cant operate in the snow...

Dartford is just 5 miles from my door, and there is nothing wrong with the roads in london... grrrr

JD;)
[Nexus S General] andyvaughan:
Tell me about it.

I pre ordered one on the 7th. Over the past couple of days the tards on the helpdesk of CPW have made up a unconscionable number of stories/bs to explain why it hasn't been delivered.

Last night I ordered another one to go to a CPW store and this morning DHL tell me it's there already.

Pre-ordering appears to be nothing more than a clever marketing stunt.

I'd rather go play on the M25 than have to ring up the CPW helpdesk ever again.
[Nexus S General] :
Yep, its now 200 pound up front for that contract;/
[Nexus S General] :
I know for a fact pre-orders get jumped by online sales... The salesman want to increase their numbers,so what they do is take stock allocated for preorders and place them into the hands of the people that are currently online. They did it for me yesterday, they gave me someone else's casefrom an open order because it hadnt been picked yet...

Funny Hey;)

JD
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
First impressions after playing with it for about an hour:

I'm coming from a Galaxy S and I've never noticed any incorrect colours with it. all whites look white and all other colours are brilliantly deep.

This screen seems to have a massive greeny / yellow tinge that goes away if you're looking directly at it and you turn off auto-brightness. Leave auto-brightness on and it looks green, look at it from anything but straight on and it looks green. I'm not sure if that's how it's supposed to be and I just need to get used to it or I've got a duff screen. This does look more LCD than SAMOLED to me.

Gingerbread is nice as an incremental update. Some nice new features and the screen off animation is amazing.

It really whizzes along. Definitely quicker than a lagfixed Galaxy S on Froyo.

Not sure about the capacitive buttons at the bottom, or the Gingerbread keyboard. I'm not too precise with either so far but I may have to get used to them again.

The Google colours in the box insert are a nice touch and the whole out-of-box-experience is quite nice. It boots up in lightning speed.

So overall, I'm happy apart from the screen. I'd need to see another before deciding if there's something wrong with it or not.
[Nexus S General] Lord_Buckington:
I keep telling myself to wait for CES before deciding about picking up a Nexus S, but then I keep looking at the CPW site deciding the best plan to get :p
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
Don't quote me, but believe others have had issues with the screen on auto as well, so might just be a general "issue" with auto-brightness.
[Nexus S General] andyvaughan:
Haaah, brilliant.

What a bunch of bastards! :)
[Nexus S General] :
So what your saying is it looks like us in the UK got LCD screens and not SAMOLED?
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
I got on the o2 just in time then! There is no way they can change our plans is there?
[Nexus S General] :
;)

So when you dont get something that you have ordered, you know whats happened now, lollol

JD:eek:
[Nexus S General] :
Just emailed Neil at cpwcares to find that out;) i would say 99.9 percent no...

JD
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
Cheers mate. Thought it was a steal at that price
[Nexus S General] :
If its not SAMOLED i will return mine in record time;)

JD
[Nexus S General] :
it was, and is;) they defo made a fook up though, a nice one for us;)

JD
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
Same
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
Blacks are good enough to be SAMOLED but viewing angle is terrible and whites aren't pure white. There's a noticeable difference putting my Galaxy S next to the Nexus S. I'll post some pics in a few mins.
[Nexus S General] :
very worrying
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
I just spoke to CPW on phone and they said as long as we ordered before today then all original contracts stand. No £200 for us :) bonus

StevoStevo
[Nexus S General] :
If it is indeed not SAMOLED, I will be returning this phone and never buy a Samsung or Google phone again. Lying to us is a big NO. - but I'm sure it is SAMOLED.
[Nexus S General] :
i concur as its plastered all over the CPW website as SAMOLED;)

JD
[Nexus S General] :
Nice 1 dude;)
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
I am sure it is as thats what is say on CPW and Googles site. And since rumors started its always been SAMOLED. So wouldnt be worried. Will find out tomorrow when have it next to N1
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
Here are some pics. One to demonstrate what I mean first of all, more in the gallery linked.

http://picasaweb.google.com/darren.mansell/NexusS#
[Nexus S General] :
They both don't look like samoled from them pictures but your right the Nexus S does look more like a lcd screen :-/
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
Turn in on in a dark room, and see if you get back light bleed during the boot animation.
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
What would this mean? Should I see the backlight bleed with SAMOLED? I've never noticed with my SGS.
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
No you shouldn't, the black background should stay back on OLED.
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
..aaaand my back button doesn't work. Awesome.
[Nexus S General] Prototypeuk:
Mine is coming from Dartford too. What is the current status on yours?

In Transit 21/12/10 14:40 DARTFORD SERVICE CENTRE

In Transit 21/12/10 06:21 DARTFORD SERVICE CENTRE

I don't know why it has gone 'In Transit' twice
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
um. clearly both of them are super amoled.

its just your nexus S has the yellow warmish color in its white. while your samsung galaxy has the cool blue white.

the yellow warmish color is defective. and this issue happened in iphone 4, galaxy S as well.. yout GS phone is perfect color.

i had to search for 4 galaxy S to get one with cool blue . and 6 iphones 4 to get one with cool blue. its like out of 10 phones . 2 is cool blue white and the other is ugly warm yellow white.

return it and keep your GS till you find one with the same colors as ur GS. trust me on this
[Nexus S General] :
Snap;) mine has it twice as well;(
[Nexus S General] Prototypeuk:
Great so it's not looking good for delivery today then :mad:

The snow has been melting all day so why can't they make it out of Dartford?
[Nexus S General] DJTaurus:
no software fix for that?
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
yeah mine said the same thing this morning then couple of hours later it said out for delivery.. :)

hope yours get to you soon
[Nexus S General] englefield:
Here is a pic of mine... (yea the screen cover is staying on till my proper one comes :)
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
from what was said earlier then you appear to be a lucky one with a cool blue screen. hope mine is tomorrow when i pick it up
[Nexus S General] englefield:
Mine would be sent straight back if it was that gash greeny yellow crap!..... looks like one of those REALLY old monocrome monitors you used to get on BBC computers.
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
same here it look well cheap.:mad:
[Nexus S General] DJTaurus:
Until now the yellow effect has been reported only in UK nexus s....i guess i must order the phone from US.
[Nexus S General] :
Spoke to dartford, they said they are weeks behind on deliverys;( not a good sign;(

JD
[Nexus S General] Prototypeuk:
Great so might not even get it tomorrow.......

I don't understand why it is showing as 'In Transit' if its not out for delivery.

Its already reached the Depot so its next move must be In Transit to me?

In Transit 21/12/10 14:40 DARTFORD SERVICE CENTRE

In Transit 21/12/10 06:21 DARTFORD SERVICE CENTRE

Arrived At Depot 21/12/10 06:19 DARTFORD SERVICE CENTRE

Arrived At Depot 21/12/10 06:18 DARTFORD SERVICE CENTRE

Parcel Picked Up 20/12/10 18:17 LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

Parcel data received awaiting coll. 20/12/10 LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE
[Nexus S General] gogol:
So, any browsing lag like described here?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=873364
[Nexus S General] slowz3r:
I havent had anything even relating to lag since i started using this phone at 8 , i love it ,, sorry Nexi, you will never been forgotten <3
[Nexus S General] gtg465x:
Start at 2:05 :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=scawEG9dryA

Flash enabled though.
[Nexus S General] graemegb:
It has something to do with the fact that the Hummingbird SoC is not optimized for flash acceleration.
[Nexus S General] gtg465x:
Someone post a video scrolling around Android central zoomed out like that with Flash disabled so we can tell how much of that lag is actually caused by Flash.
[Nexus S General] mmas0n:
I went to both anandtech.com and androidcentral.com to try to replicate the issues witnessed in those videos.

No problems whatsoever. Scrolling is fine, even when not zoomed in. Pinch-to-zoom is fast. Flash is enabled.
[Nexus S General] gtg465x:
What's your definition of fine? It would still be great to get a video so we can judge for ourselves.

Fine like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZZXeF5uV8
[Nexus S General] mmas0n:
Not fine like that, no.
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
SADLY: the LAG in the browser is indeed there - and it shows up only after you have installed a decent number of apps (i have 67).

This is EXACTLY how it was on the SGS until Samsung released a fix.

Out of the box, it hardly lags - but as soon as i install some apps the lag starts. not always, but it is there.

shame.
[Nexus S General] Highl1:
67 apps and you complain about the lag?
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
Seriously?

YES i complain about lad with 67apps installed where my droid X has 100apps and there is zero lag.

My Nexus one has 110apps and there was no lag.
[Nexus S General] Highl1:
Solution:

Stick with Droid X or Nexus One. I use my phone heavily for work (2 Exchange accounts used all the time, 1 GMail) and I develop Android apps and have never had the need for more than 20-25 apps. Out of those 67, 30-40 can be useful tops, but 67, no way jose
[Nexus S General] coolairG1:
Web browsing is smooth and fast. I think I like this phone better than the Vibrant. So far so good, no issue.
[Nexus S General] c_licious:
My mytouch 4g was definitely smoother when it comes to scrolling. It also automatically re-wrapped the text when I used pinch to zoom. With the nexus s it only re-wrapps text when I use the zoom control buttoms on the display.
[Nexus S General] raeef:
When I finish my exam tomorrow I will try to post a video. There is a lag sometimes but foe this site it's. Almost as smooth as what u posted.
[Nexus S General] gtg465x:
Pinch zoom and then double tap the text for reflow. The standard way.
[Nexus S General] raeef:
I think lag is caused by using more app in the background. It will be very smooth but if u open like 10 apps or so you will get some lag. So try to test it with and without that many apps running ...
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
I said installed apps. Not running apps. Of course I don't run 67apps in the background...not even one to be honest.
[Nexus S General] ksc6000:
Browser is not at all improved from my Nexus One. EXTREMELY disappointed and the main reason why I will probably return this phone within the 30 days.
[Nexus S General] nsavani:
what i noticed is that flash (mostly ads) is causing the lag on my phone. i dont need flash all of the time so it went into the browser settings>enable plugins> and set it to on demand. that way flash isnt loading all of the time, only when i click on a certain flash element that i want to watch. makes pages load faster and probably saves battery too.
[Nexus S General] ksc6000:
Agreed but flash content runs just as poorly on the Nexus S as it did on the Nexus One. I don't get it. Can't flash content be accelerated by the GPU of the the NS? Or does flash have to rely entirely on CPU?
[Nexus S General] gtg465x:
We all know Flash sucks ass. The real question is how does it perform with Flash disabled or set to on demand?
[Nexus S General] nsavani:
i think the problem isnt with google or android...its with adobe flash. it sometimes runs slow and lags on my macbook too.
[Nexus S General] rashad1:
Flash seems to slow down scrolling sometimes.
[Nexus S General] nsavani:
scrolling and load times are better with flash set to on demand
[Nexus S General] JayBomb999:
I just returned from Best Buy after playing with the Nexus S for about 20 minutes. Needless to say, I left unimpressed.

The browser scrolling is only marginally better than the N1 and that is with Flash disabled. With Flash enabled, it's just as bad in my opinion.

The speed of the phone by itself was noticeably better in every way, except for the browser. Why do they refuse to use GPU acceleration in the one place it needs it most?
[Nexus S General] raeef:
I wasn't commenting on what u said :p I was sharing what I noticed on my device.
[Nexus S General] n1kki6:
Mine lagged out of the box, only if zoomed out though.
[Nexus S General] n1kki6:
Where do I disable the flash? I didn't install the flash app.
[Nexus S General] JayBomb999:
In the browser settings, change "Enable plug-ins" to "On Demand".
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
Flash is not the problem here.

Even if you uninstall the flash 100% websites still lag.

Go to tbs.com and see how your phone comes to a crawl with flash uninstalled.

Again, the same problem was on the SGS and Galaxy Tab up until the recent leaked firmwares which fixed the issue to some level.
[Nexus S General] gtg465x:
On the Galaxy S phones, the worst offender was always pocketnow.com. Try browsing around there for a while and see if you don't crash. Also if you can, check the browser memory usage on pocketnow.
[Nexus S General] southeastbeast:
Pro tip : double tap text to resize text columns after pinch to zoom. Worked the same way on my nexus one. >;]

Cheers!
[Nexus S General] JayBomb999:
I don't think we can hope for leaked firmware to fix the browser lag on the Nexus S... not firmware from Samsung anyway. This will have to be attended to by Google will it not? (or hacked)
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
Yea pocketnow.com the browser wont scroll at all and finally crashed.

Same as on the SGS.
[Nexus S General] raeef:
I just opened pocketnow no problem. Scrolling works and the browser didn't crash. Zooming. Also worked well
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
Open the full version of the site....not the mobile version which opens by default.
[Nexus S General] raeef:
You are smart do you know that? :P I already opened the full site and this is the one I said that it worked very well, but this was just after I've turned on my mobile so no apps were working or maybe just XDA's app . I retested it now, I opened like 5 apps. Even without refreshing, the browser stopped responding.
[Nexus S General] dinan:
Opened pocketnow (full site) on my Vibrant... works alright. A little choppy as it is with other content heavy sites but still easily browsable.
[Nexus S General] windandrain:
Even my "magic, revolutionary, unbelievable, changing everything again and the most advanced mobile phone ever" iPhone4 is suffering lag and crash with 30 apps installed.

And I also think my nexus one performs better, better even than my G2 with better CPU/GPU, when it comes to browser performance.

Maybe the browser in Gingerbread is not well optimized for the Samsung chip?

Now I'll just wait to see if Google will release a fix. I don't think they can advertise their new nexus with "much faster web browsing, way better even than iPad":D
[Nexus S General] gogol:
This browsing lag is unacceptable. We must voice this out loud :(

Spread the word and demand a fix from Google.

Side note, do you think it is possible to fix it with custom rom? Probably not as I learned from SGS, the fix came from Samsung.
[Nexus S General] raeef:
Yup it's pretty bad actually with that site.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
These issues are disheartening.
[Nexus S General] raeef:
I think , a small update will fix everything. When I open that website without anything running everything is very smooth even with flash. Maybe some resources management is required.
[Nexus S General] smift:
Yes, that's bang on. Compared to my existing G2, browsing on the Nexus S is subtly but definitely worse. On the other hand, Google Maps is a dream, definitely better on the Nexus S.
[Nexus S General] ryude:
It's the browser app itself, it has a memory leak, thus why large sites will slow it down to a crawl. In the meantime, you can use a different browser like Miren or Dolphin HD those seem to work much better on large sites.

I use a captivate btw.
[Nexus S General] raeef:
Same problem with Dolphin HD, the weird thing, that as soon as I stop a cached process or cached background process as Andriod calls it. The browsing get back to be as fast as it should. Although Gingerbread says that "this is an old app process... there is usually no reason to stop it".

I tried that with gmaps process and although it was only taking 5 MB, just after I shut it down, the browser behaves normally. There is something wrong when it comes to memory management with browsing, Android browser or D HD.
[Nexus S General] AdamHart612:
Its a little laggy on scroll for me. However its less lag than any other Android phone I've used....so....I'm happy at the moment. Beats my Evo/N1, and kicks the crap out of my G1/Mytouch3g. Also quicker than my sisters MyTouch4g. But definitely not as smooth as I want it to be.
[Nexus S General] ryude:
Android definitely has memory management issues, but that's what you get with real multi-tasking instead of that fake iOS crap. Dual cores should help that problem quite a bit.
[Nexus S General] n1kki6:
I went ahead and installed the dolphin browser, my stock broser still ended up a bit slower than I like.
[Nexus S General] ikon8:
You guys make it sound so simple to enable gpu acceleration in the browser, I hope you guys realize that Google just added gpu acceleration to Chrome Desktop Browser and that has had a very rapid development, I'd imagine it to be a lot harder in mobile devices to make sure you don't destroy battery life in the process.
[Nexus S General] gtg465x:
If Samsung can do it, I'm sure Google can. Heck, they're working together on this phone so I'm sure Samsung would be willing to help them out.
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
I noticed that when a page lags, if you click the home button and then reopen the browser - the page will be much smoother...
[Nexus S General] harajuka:
I notice the lag after surfing the web for a bit.. after clearing the cache and killing task seems to bring it back to normal smooth scrolling...
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
OK, seems like i found a way to fix the lag.

I downloaded autokiller from the market and set the minfree settings to aggressive and my browser hardly lags anymore.

Even pocketnow is scrolling smoothly (when it does not crash the browser).

I have not noticed any side effects yet to setting it to aggressive. all my services keep on running in the background (i used Google voice, exchange and twitter).

give it a try. you can always set it back to default if you don't like it.
[Nexus S General] :
The new Voodoo kernel released by supercurio for the NS might help, but at the moment it kill Bluetooth:eek: But quadrant is now at 2500, which is pretty damn quick.. Especially with an overclocked G2 to 1.9ghz could only get 2700 and this is running at 1ghz. I wished we could overclock the processor;)

JD
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
I'm definitely getting smoother browser with the autokiller set to aggressive and i have not noticed any side effects...yet :)
[Nexus S General] Smokexz:
I noticed some lag, SOME

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] cshih2:
My nexus s is really bad in most of the website. Compares to either nexus one and iphone4

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] raeef:
Do I need to root the phone?
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
Yes.