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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] animal7296:
1. 2.02 is rootable 2.10 is not and is the newest one.

2.0 S-ON means you can not flash roms s-off means you can. It is the security of the phone kind of.

If you can not get into bootloader then you can try running the oldest ruu and then the next. It wont hurt the phone at all (I just did it today) it will just give you an error and reboot the phone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badutahboy:
Thanks for the explanations and the help.

How do I find out if it's S-on or off, and is it possible to change?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] animal7296:
I have been trying to root 2.10 since yesterday and it has proven to not be possible as of yet. If you have a rooting method that works for me then would you share please?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luckylui:
Im with u brotha im stuck on 2.10 from a mistake i made. Was originally on 0.76.2 :(

Sux man
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoremora:
To see if you're S-OFF or S-ON; you can boot your phone into bootloader mode.

To do this:

1. Power down the phone

2. Hold the Volume Down + Power button

3. You'll see a white screen with three little Androids

4. Read the very top of the screen; should tell you if you are S-ON or S-OFF.

You can reboot afterwards.

And yes, you can switch from the S-ON to S-OFF and vise versa, though I don't see why you would want to do the latter.

I apologize to the both of you guys; I was under the impression that 2.10 was S-OFF, apparently testing is still being done. For now, looks like you'll have to sit tight. Sorry guys.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tpbklake:
However it has been verified that if you were S-OFF on 2.02 you can install the OTA and you will end up with HBOOT 2.10 with S-OFF.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luckylui:
No prob pimp :)

Ima call sprint n see if i can some how get me a phone w the 2.02 hboot and just pretty much get an upgrade from 0003 hardware to 0004 Lol

Im like jumpy rite now ahaha
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luckylui:
True this, but when i did it i was at 0.76.2 and now screw at 2.10 cause it updated all the way n i didnt want to do that.. Got lost in the tangle haha
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoremora:
Yea, I heard about this in the IRC; too bad these guys can do that... unfortunate; but I'm sure the Unrevoked team will have a fix soon enough.

Good luck with Sprint; I don't know how helpful they're going to be, but you never know...:rolleyes::D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoremora:
@luckylui and animal7296, check out the 2.02/2.10 rooting thread again, it seems they got something working. Good luck.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
There actually is a way to downgrade without rooting, all you need to do is flash the mtd-eng.img file to your misc partition as explained in toast's rooting part 2 thread. After you do that it will let you flash any ruu that is compatible with your phone
[Nexus S General] JupiterDroid:
Just placed my order;)

Should be with me on Saturday;))))

Ordered the silicon skin and the screen protector as well (50 percent off the screen protector if you order the two together;)):D

JD
[Nexus S General] Ronaldo_9:
nice let me know if u get it. hopefully the stores will have it too
[Nexus S General] Drew474:
I ordered over the phone and asked for a store delivery. I wonder what the chances are that it'll be there Saturday?

Here's hoping eh
[Nexus S General] GuestK00431:
With all the snow I think we will all be lucky to see them before the new year now haha :(
[Nexus S General] JupiterDroid:
It depends on where you live, i think london will be unaffected;)

JD
[Nexus S General] GuestK00431:
Well I'm in the South of Wales and I couldn't get to work this morning, the snow is terrible.
[Nexus S General] kalagas:
Look something interesting:

In America Nexus S sold $529,99 = about 400€.

In UK Nexus S sold £549.95 = about 645€.

Why so much deferrence in price???
[Nexus S General] JupiterDroid:
Jesus, poor taffs;) lol

CPW showing out of stock again, i dont think we will see it before xmas;(

JD
[Nexus S General] Nitin985:
Vat
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
It's not VAT, it's that everything in the UK is an utter shaft.
[Nexus S General] kalagas:
In this case the Nexus S worths only if European citizens have someone in US to buy it about 400€...

Ιn other case all those plastics and hardware doesn't worth 650€ only because Google will give direct support to Nexus S...

That's my opinion....
[Nexus S General] -A-P-M-:
IMO 650 EUR is defenetly too much for Nexus S. Even factory unlocked iPhone 4 is cheaper in UK. Im from EU, but I will buy nexus s from US.
[Nexus S General] GuestK00431:
Just spoke to CPWH customer services and they say they have not received the shipment from the suppliers yet and can't give a exact date to when they will.. ask me to call back Monday.
[Nexus S General] kabumm:
Im gonna wait until prices for Germany are announced.

Due to the fact that getting NS from US would cost me in the end ~550€, i hope the price in germany wont be any higher - at least i expect that.

Paying 650€ in UK and get it imported here ends up around 700€.

iPhone 4 is only at 630€ at apple-store here...
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
Do you have any contact names there for anyone who knows what's going on?

I've spoken to customer services twice and neither even knew what the Nexus S is. I've raised a complaint and even then the response is a bit non-de-script.

I ordered mine on the 7th December and have heard nothing about delivery times etc. It's supposed to be 20th December in the UK but still CPW are clueless.
[Nexus S General] littlesthobo:
I ordered on the day it was announced. I spoke to CPW this afternoon and they told me that some stock has been released today but there was no guarantee I'd get one and there is more stock next week. Sounds like BS to me, I'll just have to wait and see.
[Nexus S General] Drew474:
its now in stock guys!

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/choose-tariff/NEXUS-S-FROM-GOOGLE/HANDSET/
[Nexus S General] kodbel:
Anyone planning to import it from US?
[Nexus S General] JupiterDroid:
They did this last night as well, it showed in stock in the evenings, and in the day out of stock, lol

My contact in CPW said sunday stock arrival, monday shipping and tuesday arrival, that is if your home isnt under 50ft of snow;)

And i can tell you this for free....

There have been NO deliverys of NS to CPW as of yet at all;)

JD:cool:
[Nexus S General] psp888:
I'm in the US now and brought a few, coming back on the 10th Jan if anyone is after one...
[Nexus S General] :
Exactly what i thought, but it means its kept in there secure room, and not out for delivery yet;(
[Nexus S General] daveidfrancois:
Been reading this forum for a while but not posted, anyway I wanted to chime in with my details

Ordered SIM-free on 15th, £550 (no worth on money back yet, they said they'd ring)

Got dispatched message yesterday at about 5pm

delivered today at about 11am and I'm near Leeds, the snow here's not that disruptive

Can't open yet, it's for Christmas ;)

Now I'm worried about how my screen will look! lol
[Nexus S General] :
Arrived At Depot	21/12/10	01:45	BRISTOL TERMINAL

Parcel Picked Up	20/12/10	20:31	LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

Parcel data received awaiting coll.	20/12/10	LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

Doubt I'll even get mine tomorrow at this rate, hasn't changed since 01.45 early hours of this morning.
[Nexus S General] :
I might have a trip to Dartford DHL tomorrow if its not out for delivery by 1, this is a major joke;( Will take all my id and shizzle and demand them pricks look for my phone;) lol

JD
[Nexus S General] :
Guys that have recieved their phones, did you get your cases and screen protectors with your package?

Cheers

JD;)
[Nexus S General] Prototypeuk:
I have tried calling them 3 times without success to find out where the delivery is, I just can't get through.

Pick me up on your way tomorrow when you go there please :D
[Nexus S General] :
i tried as well, i think they must have taken all phones off the hook... Im in Eltham so will train it from Eltham station dude.. If its not out for delivery by 1 im there;)

JD
[Nexus S General] SwollenMonkey:
Mine is saying delayed to adverse weather in manchester service centre. Doubt it will be here before xmas :(
[Nexus S General] trickyhenry:
Ordered yesterday around lunchtime and got it today at 11am. Basingstoke Hampshire.

Sounds like I had it easy. I remember the forum when the nexus one was released we were tracking the flight paths and all sorts! this should be allot easier.

Good luck you lot.
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
How many have actually reported this "issue"? So far only seen one?
[Nexus S General] Cowie:
Mine has been showing as "out for delivery" since 8.26am today. The roads here are completely clear and have been for the past two weeks. I don't think it's going to turn up today now.
[Nexus S General] :
To be honest I don't think the DHL know what the hell there doing.
[Nexus S General] :
Only one thank god, but check your device for sure;)

And the back button;)

JD
[Nexus S General] pepps2010:
Well dhl received mine this morning as I knew thru would not b delivering went to their depot and picked it up so far no complaints just like having my old gal s again
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
Aye, hopefully get to check in store assuming they let me!
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
ordered mine last night to store in manchester at about 6pm and it arrived today at about 11ish
[Nexus S General] SwollenMonkey:
Hope mine comes tomorrow
[Nexus S General] :
Good to know, if mine is not out for delivery tomorrow morning, i will be traveling to dartford to pick mine up;)

JD
[Nexus S General] Ronaldo_9:
for the guys who paid 550, did u get the difference refunded? i got my self SGS but i might get nexus S now its dropped in price plus get discount :)
[Nexus S General] :
I've had no refund yet, nor the handset for that lol :)
[Nexus S General] ohMyWord):
I rang up and was told that I would automatically be sent a cheque for the difference within the next 14 days.

Everyone seems to be getting different responses on this issue so who knows.
[Nexus S General] littlesthobo:
Got delivered this evening despite the snow and ice all over Bristol!

Totally stoked with it! I'm easy to please though because it's my first smartphone. (does SE P900 count!)

Already got root, done a nandroid backup, let the fun commence! (thanks Amin Sabet, Koush, Supercurio et al...!)

Good luck to all those still waiting, you won't be disappointed I promise.

One little tip: I phoned DHL and got the number of the HDNL courier. I called him to let him know that he could get to my address and i'd be in all day (it said undeliverable due to adverse weather on the online tracking page - not having that! I called and asked him to try again!)
[Nexus S General] :
Mines been in the Bristol depot since early this morning :(
[Nexus S General] Drew474:
Still havent 'picked' my item for delivery. Ordered on 14th :(
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
no bro. i am sorry, i thought at first its a software isse. back then with my galaxy S that has yellow warm screen voodoo was released which fixed the lag and made the colors look better. i thought that this IS the solution. i applied both software on mine and my brother with cool blue white. and his screen looked even better than mine. its just a bad screen. the color template isnt good.

its very easy to tell really. just when you get the phone. put the brightness to the highest. click on the internet icon. a white empty web page will come . you will be able to check right away if its warm or cool blue. you will automaticly see it. if you still cant tell. then pick your galaxy S from your friends or your phone and compare.

to be honest, this is too OCD. but i am sick of it. i like my stuff perfect. you had no idea how many hours i spent looking for perfect galaxy S back then. i was so pissed. my brother who is 2 meters away from me has good screen. i wanted one too. thats when i did my search. and after i sold my GS, same issue happened with the iphone 4

luckly i was able to get one with cool blue white in shorter period " mainly because there are plenty of iphones were around back then "
[Nexus S General] :
:(CPW Fail:(
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
sometimes, reading forums is bad thing. most of the people dont really care . they dont even know. my friend has an iphone 4 with a yellowish white so bad then when i saw it i was about to get sick.

he didnt notice it. for him it was an iphone 4 and it was working. i didnt want to show him mine and explain the difference to piss him off. so sometimes not knowing is a good thing lol.
[Nexus S General] stevea001:
I emailed carphone warehouse support earlier about the refund and got the following reply:

"Thank you for your email. I can confirm that we will be refunding you the £120 difference, and we will be contacting you over the next several days to arrange this. I can confirm that you do not need to contact us regarding this, we will be calling all customers affected."
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
Aye, does sometimes make you wish you lived in a hole eh! lol!

There's likely to be some colour calibration available to adjust things (if it gets ported over from N1 et al) I'd imagine - just in case someone does get a dodgy one and can't swap.

Hopefully picking a phone in store should give people chance to check - the non working back button is a bit more of an issue (and probably easier to get an exchange for!)

Fingers crossed for in-store stock tomorrow - and that those still waiting get theirs safe and sound....
[Nexus S General] zen123:
Ordered from CPW yesterday when it was still showing pre order but it arrived this morning. Pretty quick service in my book.
[Nexus S General] :
With bookmakers laying odds on a new Ice Age i think you got pretty lucky, Dont you? lol

JD
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
i dont want to link to another forums as i think its not a good idea. but here are few screen shots blow from an iphone 4 as well with the same issue about warm yellow white vs cool blue white " sorry if this is getting off topic. i was trying to help "

this is not a nexus S specific problem. its just you have to be smart when you search for a good phone unless you are one of those people who dont give a crap its yellow or cool blue screen. which ... good for u i guess.
[Nexus S General] :
No you have done well mate, thanks for highlighting this... I now know what to look for;) Back button **** ups and the screen looking like its been puked on;) Im armed with info now;)

Thanks,

JD
[Nexus S General] :
You know what guys, I'm fed up of talking about the phone now and just want it in my hands haha
[Nexus S General] :
**** Yeah!!
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
my pleasure bro
[Nexus S General] englefield:
In my hands now and really liking it ( sorry :D )

Could someone just explain to me the point of rooting the device please? Is it just to install custom roms and programs not available in the market?

I've hard SPL my hd2 and diamond touch 2 before to operator unlock it and install a custom rom, but as the Nexus S is already operator unlocked and there is no custom roms yet I was just wondering if there are any other reasons to root it?

cheers!
[Nexus S General] sn0wm0nkey:
Ordered Mine, and Got £50, Nice :)

Just ordered mine on Voda for £30per month with 500 meg of data through Quidco.com and mobiles.co.uk and got £50.00 cash back :)

Will post images when I get it but won't be until after christmas!
[Nexus S General] SwollenMonkey:
Mine finally delivered. Just gotta get home now! Damn work!
[Nexus S General] Cowie:
Mine is STILL showing as out for delivery from yesterday morning! Don't they refill the delivery van every day?

There's been no problems with the roads around here for the past couple of weeks, so don't know why it's not arrived.
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
Just picked mine up from the store in Leeds (Headrow)

They had 10 in stock and this was the first they'd sold all day!

Screen all looks fine (so far) and buttons are working as they should.

Now to root!
[Nexus S General] Prototypeuk:
Mine says 'Out for Delivery' too. Does that really mean its on a van or just the next stage to going out the depot?
[Nexus S General] Cowie:
This is the tracking history:

Out for delivery	21/12/10	08:26 SHEFFIELD HOME DELIVERY

Passed to delivery courier 21/12/10	07:46 SHEFFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

Arrived At Depot	21/12/10	07:07 SHEFFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

Parcel Picked Up	20/12/10	20:53 LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

Parcel Picked Up	20/12/10	18:49 LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

Parcel data received awaiting coll.	20/12/10 LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

Which would seem to imply that it's in a van on its way. Phoning DHL doesn't help as they just say that it's out for delivery and they can't give any more information.
[Nexus S General] Prototypeuk:
Whahooo!!! Its just arrived :d
[Nexus S General] :
Arrived At Depot	22/12/10	00:55	NANTGARW SERVICE CENTRE

Scanned as part of secure process	22/12/10	NANTGARW SERVICE CENTRE

Delayed due to adverse weather	21/12/10	NANTGARW SERVICE CENTRE

Arrived At Depot	21/12/10	01:45	BRISTOL TERMINAL

Parcel Picked Up	20/12/10	20:31	LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

Parcel data received awaiting coll.	20/12/10	LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

I'm being well screwed over... DHL suck
[Nexus S General] stevo1006:
Got mine this morning from Manchester cpw and gotta say am loving it. Haven't got that yellow tint too screen and all buttons are working. Looks like it finally RIP to the N1 as main phonephone
[Nexus S General] Cowie:
Just had a delivery from FedEx and City Link this morning (next day delivery as well) yet nothing yet from DHL. They're saying to allow up to 8 days from shipping despite it being out for delivery FFS! So it could be left sitting in his van over xmas.

I think the problem is that they use part-time & self-employed delivery drivers who don't give a stuff. The driver who's got mine has probably knocked off for the rest of this year.
[Nexus S General] MistaJae:
Wow, some ppl have had a really bad experience with CPW. I ordered mine from them at 4pm yesterday (as a FREE upgrade on T-Mobile). The handset has just arrived via DHL and is charging!!!!! :D

I'm in London btw.
[Nexus S General] Lord_Buckington:
How did you get it as an upgrade? Did you have to phone CPW or T-Mobile?

Cheers :)
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
Some better news this side. Managed to find a local store with stock and they're happy to exchange my faulty one for me. Heading over tonight.
[Nexus S General] :
Does anyone elses screen go a bit yellow when looking at off straight angles? Mine is fine when looking at it straight, starts to distort at an angle and go a bitt yellowy?

Might need to replace;(

JD
[Nexus S General] Cowie:
Update - Just phoned DHL as it's now showing as being back at the Service Centre!!!! Apparently they attempted to deliver yesterday but as nobody was in they left a card! I explained that I had spent yesterday and most of today looking out of the windows waiting for the bloody delivery. I asked if I could collect from the Service Centre and she said that I ought to phone first & gave me the number. Unfortunately they don't answer the phone and it cuts off after 15 minutes wait - half an hour of my life wasted.

I might just chance it and call in at the Service Centre to see if I can get hold of it. Does anyone know what sort of ID I'll need?
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
Nope, seems fine (looks even more blue if anything).

From reading other threads on the subject the yellow/warmness maybe "normal" behaviour - especially if the screens come from different sources.
[Nexus S General] englefield:
Aye mine is blueish when looking from side / top down.
[Nexus S General] MistaJae:
I called CPW as T-Mobile don't list the Nexus S. They contacted T-Mobile while I was on hold. We (thats me & the CPW guy) had to haggle a bit to get the handset for free though! My upgrade has been due since July and I am apparently a 'high-value customer' (probably coz I'm on Flext 40) ;)
[Nexus S General] Lord_Buckington:
Awesome, thanks. I've been on Orange for about 6 years now (on PAYG for 2 years, then contract for several more, etc) so it sounds like it may be worth giving them a ring to see what can be arranged. Thanks again :D
[Nexus S General] :
Cheers guys, I'm off to a store to compare
[Nexus S General] flynny:
Cowie usually a proof of ID so drivers license passport and proof of address like a utility bill or 2 and the card that they leave should cover all you need, if they bother ;D
[Nexus S General] :
Still not had mine, it's got to my local DHL but they say they have misplaced it. If I don't get it tomorrow I will just cancel and go back to the iPhone 4.

I'm not waiting till after Christmas to get this phone. DHL are terrible
[Nexus S General] :
Just exchanged my phone, screen is as it should be now, cheers guys, lovely off blue;P

JD
[Nexus S General] :
Dont do it, this phone is FREAKING amazing, best phone of all time;)

JD
[Nexus S General] englefield:
sucks there is such a difference between phones.... i dont think I could of been arsed to exchage it if mine was spunk yellow... would of just got a refund.
[Nexus S General] :
Its because there are users and there are DIE HARD ANDROID SOLDIERS;)

Like a few of us guys on here;)

lol:p

JD
[Nexus S General] SwollenMonkey:
Finally got my phone! Is freaking sweet
[Nexus S General] :
They have one day :) lol

Anyone in the UK get the new update today?
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
And now you wish it was yellow again? ;)
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
Aye very impressed so far, even compared to an N1 running MIUI
[Nexus S General] :
No, Im never going back to the piss stains;) lollol

The blue is a white warm blue, and much more deeper viewing angle now;)

Love the phone;)) This is definitely the best phone i have ever owned;) And as you can see i have owned a few;P

JD
[Nexus S General] ll_l_x_l_ll:
there you go ;)

congrats.
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
Same here. Exchanged my phone tonight and the screen is great.
[Nexus S General] :
Thanks to you mate;)

JD
[Nexus S General] Lord_Buckington:
Is it easy to convince them that your screen is bad when it's yellow? I would have thought it was the kind of thing they would claim isn't a problem

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus S General] :
Mines out for delievery... so much for preordering on the 6th haha.
[Nexus S General] marvi0:
stock in shops?

hello anyone in uk, been to carphonewarehouse recently? and do they have stock, in store as i wanted to get one in store.?
[Nexus S General] SwollenMonkey:
Someone back in the thread walked in a store and got one. First one they'd sold all day apparently
[Nexus S General] Highland3r:
The Leeds store had ~ 10 in stock. The impression I got was that they weren't selling or expecting to sell many. Not sure if all the stores have stock at the moment, you should be able to find a direct store number on the CPWH website if it's a mission getting to the nearest store.
[Nexus S General] marvi0:
Thank you for response i thought it would be a gold rush for these , and oh so even on a new contract the availability is just th same? Cause i need one on voda.
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
You can ring cpw customer services and they can check stock in the stores. Anyone in the west mids, solihull and merry hill have them in stock.
[Nexus S General] dirk1978:
Yes when I took mine in they were quite shocked at it and replaced it without quibble.
[Nexus S General] :
Status	Date	Time	Signatory	Branch

Delayed due to adverse weather	23/12/10	10:01 NANTGARW HOME DELIVERY

Delayed due to adverse weather	23/12/10	09:27 NANTGARW HOME DELIVERY

Out for delivery	23/12/10	05:33	NANTGARW HOME DELIVERY

Passed to delivery courier	23/12/10	05:19NANTGARW SERVICE CENTRE

Scanned as part of secure process	22/12/10	NANTGARW SERVICE CENTRE

Arrived At Depot	22/12/10	00:55	NANTGARW SERVICE CENTRE

Delayed due to adverse weather	21/12/10	NANTGARW SERVICE CENTRE

Arrived At Depot	21/12/10	01:45	BRISTOL TERMINAL

Parcel Picked Up	20/12/10	20:31	LICHFIELD SERVICE CENTRE

Parcel data received awaiting coll.

I give up, there's no snow around on the roads.