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[Nexus One General] efrant:
I said it before, and I'll say it again: rooting has no bearing on the phone's ability to receive and install OTA updates -- what matters is which ROM you have. I rooted my phone when I bought it, and it had Eclair on it. I have received EVERY OTA update without any problem.

That is probably because you were not using a stock ROM...

If you want a stock ROM, you can go here: http://developer.htc.com and download a Nexus One image to your sdcard, rename it to PASSIMG.zip and boot the phone into bootloader (by holding the trackball and powering up the phone). It should automatically detect the file and allow you to flash it.

Files from the site are official. If you get them from anywhere else, you can't really know what's been modified.
[Nexus One General] stefanopelloni:
Dear Efrant,

if you were a girl, and in Italy, I would probably kiss you.

Now I have a bright-clear picture of the situation.

During the next holiday, I'll try and flash a stock version of the OS and then try the OTA update.

By now, the version mokurex suggested me work brilliantly and after so many nights wasted in a desperate search of an answer my myself i'm going to have a break.

... but thanks a lot. thanks indeed !!!
[Nexus One General] stefanopelloni:
Sorry to disturb you again Eftant.

The fact is that today decided eventually to follow your step, but encountered another unexpected problem.

downolaed the original HTC rom - done

renamed it passimg.zip - done

turned on the N1 pressing trackball - done

expected detection of PASSIMG.zip - done

opening passimg.zip - done

checking passimg.zip - done

and then .. nothing

once the N1 load the passimg.zip file (i notice it from a loading bar on the upper right conder of the phone) it just allow me to

1)run bootloader agan

2) lock sim

3) restore something ...

... and that !

No possibility to "flash" rom as you wrote.

Did I miss anything ?

I see from the web that a lot of people bring back the N1 to the stock image using SDK from PC (MAC in my case) but the steps are not so clear considering the fact that I'm not that comfortable with the shell and the Android SDK is not intuitive (... to me).

Thanks in any case for your attention!
[Nexus One General] efrant:
Try wiping your device then download the FRF91 image from the same site, rename it to PASSIMG.zip and save it to the root of your sdcard. Put your sdcard back into your device, and boot into the bootloader (by holding down the trackball as you push the power button). Once it flashes, wait for the OTA to FRG83G. Some users have said that the later images don't work using, particularly if you have updated to the 0.35 version of the bootloader.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Benjamin Dobell:
I'm curious to know whether Heimdall will work with Nexus S devices. As the device is developed by Samsung and reasonably similar to members of the Galaxy S range it's fairly likely that it will. The main requirement is that the device is running a particular type of Samsung secondary bootloader, referred to by Samsung as Loke.

Without an actual dump of the secondary bootloader the simplest way to check is whether or not Nexus S phones have "download mode". If a Nexus S owner could confirm whether or not they have download mode that would be great. If so could they please share the product ID and vendor ID of the Nexus S? These can be retrieved in Windows by doing the following:

Instructions for Windows Vista / Server 2008 (Should be similar for XP & 7)

1. Open up Device Manager on your PC (Control Panel -> System -> Device Manager).

2. Under Universal Serial Bus Controllers, find the Samsung composite driver (if in download mode) or your whatever Nexus S driver you're currently using (if not in download mode), the latter of which may depend on phone settings.

3. Right click on the driver you found in the previous step and chose Properties.

4. Go to the Details tab and select "Hardware Ids" from the "Property" drop down list.

5. Copy and paste your hardware IDs and fill out the rest of the form below.

With the existing Galaxy S variants there are already a few different ways to access download mode, so the way to access it on the Nexus S may be different again, but hopefully similar. As a reference, the way to access it on a GT-I9000 is to turn the device off. Hold the home and volume down buttons, then turn on the device. Don't release the the buttons until the device has boot into download mode. If the phone boots up normally then you know that a particular key sequence didn't work and you should turn off the device and try another key sequence.

Any information would be much appreciated.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omrij:
I thought that google device use fastboot for flashing (that's the official tool in the sdk)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Benjamin Dobell:
fastboot is a tool used to interact with HTC's proprietary bootloader. It is certainly possible that Google co-developed or licensed this technology from HTC. However as the bootloaders of all Android phones are developed by the manufacturer and not Google it's quite likely Samsung chose to go with what they already have i.e. the Loke flashing protocol.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxisma:
No. Fastboot was integrated into HTC's bootloader. But it is open source, fastboot I mean.

Acer is using it, too, just as an example.

And the Nexus S features fastboot aswell.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Benjamin Dobell:
Only the fastboot tool itself is open-source. A manufacturer would still need to come up with their own implementation to be included in the bootloaders of the device. I guess I'll just wait and see what some Nexus S owners have to say.

EDIT: I missed your last sentence, can you confirm your source please.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Daneshm90:
Swetland himself said so. Also u can fastboot oem unlock.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Benjamin Dobell:
Thanks, this thread I assume.

Ah well, would have been nice to say that Heimdall supports one more device. Not a problem though, fastboot works flawlessly, is cross-platform and open-source, no complaints there :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Benjamin Dobell:
Not that it's particularly relevant any-more. However this thread shouldn't have been moved as it is development related. Could this thread please be moved back to the development section so that in odd event that the issue does come up, the necessary information is available in the correct location.

Why is this development related?

It's actually about as development related as you can get. I was looking for information about the Nexus S so that I could develop extra functionality for Heimdall, in order to support the Nexus S. Heimdall is also a development tool used to flash firmware to Android devices. So the development nature is actually two-fold.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ethan_hines:
Hello, I have a Nexus S (I9020a), I put it in download mode (volume up+down)+plugin-usb, I downloaded Heimdall, I followed the instructions to install Winusb, it detected the device, it listed the PITS? (Partitions).

You may be wondering WHY is this guy fooling around with NVRAM, well it just so happens I flashed a badly written rom and my /efs partition got corrupted and I have no back-up.

I asked myself, If I know what my IMEI is (just looking behind the battery) why can't I reload an EFS partition. Sounds reasonable to me.

Does anyone have any experience flashing a new EFS? Please help if you do. Thanks.:o
[Nook Color General] bbtheory:
So I am wondering if any of the wonderful people here at XDA are experiencing screen issues with the nook color. I have had my unit about a week, and have had numerous episodes of the screen registering touches randomly. This issue is apparently not isolated as there are youtube videos and a B&N support forum thread discussing the matter.

So is anyone out there having any touchscreen craziness? If so are you doing anything about it? Not sure if I should return my unit and get another or wait for some possible firmware update...

As always any wisdom is appreciated!
[Nook Color General] camwinnn:
http://nookdevs.com/Recalibrate_the_NookColor_touch_screen

Says at the top recalibrating will fixes "phantom touches" or inaccurate touches, or not respond to reasonable touches.
[Nook Color General] gigadigit:
Mine was doing the same. I bought a screen protector and so far it hasn't happened.
[Nook Color General] deitiphobia:
My screen wasn't having "phantom touches," but at times I would press near the top and bottom edges, it seems to not be very responsive there. For example, pressing the search button in the marketplace that's at the very top right. Or pressing one of the buttons at the bottom menu.

I wiped my device back to factory and then did the latest Auto-Nooter, and started using Go Launcher. Things are much better now it seems. I think it may still happen occasionally though.
[Nook Color General] camwinnn:
Not just the phantom but inaccurate touches which sounds like yours, atm thats all ive seen about fixing screen stuff.

But other threads have been started where others have the same problem on the outer parts of the screen so it could be a Firmware/Hardware problem.
[Galaxy Tab General] quattr0:
You have some valid points (copy & paste, sms+emails in one place) but the other features are so obvious.

You can't compare the native apps on Win (Outlook, Active Sync) that suppose to work well on Android. I wouldn't think this is a surprise.
[Galaxy Tab General] J_Bone:
Android definitely has a little bit of a learning curve. My EVO was my first android OS device and after learning the little quirks I am a borderline fanboy.

I am not sure I agree with the comparison to iOS. I think Apple does a lot more "dumbing down" where Android gives you more freedom but you have to learn how to use it. Apparently it's working well for Apple. Can't fault their success.

Are you missing copy/paste in a certain app? I used it just last night (just got my tab yesterday) copying my Launcher Pro plus key from an email to LP. Menu>More>Select Text>Copy, I think. Long press where you would like to paste.

Anyway, give it time. I think it'll grow on ya.
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
Yes you're right I was a bit unfair to compare with iOS :)

And yes it's true it's evolving the right way

Copy and paste: simple example. How do I copy amd pate text from a webpage?
[Galaxy Tab General] ap27:
I believe you have to press the menu button, go to 'more' and then hit 'select text'. After that gliding your finger over text will select it. Its still not refined because it doesnt add the two 'pins' to move your selection area...that is in Gingerbread I think.
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
More gives me only print, share page and page info...

Unfortunately...

Founds new bugs that are very unprofessional: some sms going to the wrong inbox

And some emails answers sent... Without the text I typed (empty)

And of course since I dont have the aent emails for the past 2 days I juat cant event check this :(

I understand it's normal to expect Microsoft technology to be better implemented by Microsoft. However if Google wants to be serious with Android in the enterprise world they need to work on their exchange implementation

honeatly this email problem is just incredible...
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
Forgot to add that even though there are lots of free apps, some of the very useful ones are not included by default. If you wnat a good RDP client --> $20 for instance (Free with WM) All adding up it makes Android a "luxuary" OS in some cases...

That said not to be unfair the market of free apps is quite impressive (compared with WM)
[Galaxy Tab General] Phone_Junkie:
I think Android is great. The new Android 3D maps are amazing both on my Nexus One and Galaxy Tab.

That said, my single complaint so far is the lag in the native browser and with Dolphin HD. I can't say I blame this on Android OS because my N1 does not have this problem. I'm a noob so I blame this on Samsung.
[Galaxy Tab General] orenxda:
Got that 3 days ago, an incoming sms displaying the wrong contact!... So I found that after answering to that same wrong contact, who warned me I probably have mistaken. I wonder how this can be possible... Samsung app?
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
Except that unlike Android, WM is not free in and of itself anyway, so the comparison is slightly flawed - only slightly though because as an end user you do not pay directly for WM, the OEM does! ;)

Personally, I've found Wyse PocketCloud to be excellent, even in its free incarnation - it was so good, I bought the Pro version! :)

Of course, no OS is perfect - despite WM6s age, it still has some strengths. In many ways, it's a shame that MS threw the baby out with the bathwater with WP7!

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] atoy74:
Android gets a lot of blame for things that have been modified by the vendor. I've been on Android since the launch of the G1. One thing I can tell you is every device is different. HTC has their own Exchange client, same with Samsung. Many times I see their proprietary apps cause these problems. It's the price we pay for open.

The Galaxy Tab's ROM is pretty flawed. Typical for a first gen device. I'm counting the days till an update is released.

My suggestion is go with an Exchange client from the market. Touchdown (no longer called that) was generally considered the best or just hang on till the next update. For SMS I use Handcent which I love.

All enterprise apps demand big bucks. In Wimo's case that's a MS app hence free. But all the other enterprise stuff is $$$ for any platform. I agree with the other poster, PocketCloud is very good. I also have an Ipad and can tell you their apps are totally "luxuary" priced.

Give the platform more time. You're new and things are different so you're just going to see the negatives. Over time I would be shocked if you could even look at a wimo device...much less use it on a daily basis.
[Galaxy Tab General] sedde:
Wait what ? That happened to me couple of days ago.
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
Yeah I think we can blame Samsung about this. It's a real shamr cause I answered in a similar fashion to the wrong girl... Got in little trouble... But in the end kind of funny :)

Anyway shame on Sammy on this one. Very unprofessional...
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
Been reading the previous posts. My point was not to be critical of the OS itself. I do believe it's a much better OS than WM. It was much more about the applications that are still rough on the edges and not as mature as for other platforms

another example: in the samsung messaging application you cannot click on an HTML link to go straight to the webpage. Which year are we? 2005?
[Galaxy Tab General] Fixup:
I too am very happy with my TP2, but I want a 7" phone. Although the Tab is the most close, it is still not there: many web contents are still available to WM and iPad only, the CDMA versions cannot make calls and are too pricey for the sluggish built-in browser.
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
I have both now :)

Just need to find a good way to sync SMS between both...

Sad point is in the US you cannot have 2 SIMs with the same number. Otherwise would be living ina perfect world :)
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
Just found out it may not be possible to change my outlook calendar entries inthe Samsung calendar

i can delete but not move it to another dats :(

Maybe I am not doing it right... But we are getting close to a deal breaker :(

Honestly Android is a cool toy but feels so far from a professional well rounded product :( and only comparing with WM 6.5... :(

more and more diaappointed day by day..
[Galaxy Tab General] ElephantGlue:
This is why android is so great though...you said you had no complaints about the hardware being used, and I hear that a lot.

There are so many developers working on android devices including the tab trying to improve the UI and enable hardware acceleration etc.

I think that within a few months the tab will have roms that will fix or work around the various issues that are present in the current tab software.
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
Agreed android has a great future ahead

but there is quote some work to do. We are not there yet!!
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
I think the point is that Android scores lots of points where WinMo scores none, and vice versa!

My business uses Google Apps for Domains, so Android is a massive win for me. If your an MS shop, WinMo stills holds a great hand though 3rd party apps on Android can fill many of the gaps.

Over time we will see an awful lot of convergence - WP7 will get better and so will Android.

To be honest, for the most part, thus far Google have pitched Android as a consumer rather than business OS, and have relied on 3rd parties to provide full business integration. I expect 2011 will bring more to the biz table.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] mario23:
Just give it a chance guys and don't forget...this really isn't a tablet OS. I think Gingerbread and Honeycomb are going to fix many of these very complaints. HTC never has exchange issues but I've always had exchange issues with AOSP roms for example.

If you need it now, Touchdown is the best exchange app out there and it also has some nice widgets (can be seen in the "show your screens" thread a few pages back).

For SMS, its already been mentioned but Handcent is the best SMS/MMS app out there and its free.

Hang in there and give it a chance. Exploit the market for items you feel don't work well enough for you. Wait at least until these updates come out or we start seeing some nice custom roms with all those goodies inside.

I'm an ex-WM guy too. I didn't care much for Apple because of how locked down it is. Android is, if nothing else, all about freedom. All your concerns are valid and your not alone. I say keep working at it and get it the way you like.
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
i actually kinda agree with what you are saying. i've had mine for abt a month now, it gets a bit tedious and boring to use. if im gonna check my mail, i might as well use my wm tg01. i got this devicce because i thought there was much customization. but tbh Android is more like ios than wm. with wm there is so much freedom; roms that give you an entire new experience (sense, spb, etc) whereas with the tab most today launchers are the same layouts. for my next primary device,i was thinking of getting an Android, but after getting the tab, my mind has changed. i probably Want to upgrade next to a WP7 when it gets fully customizable by our folks here. please share your opinions with me!
[Galaxy Tab General] mario23:
SPB will have a shell for android tabs and I bet you will see more neat stuff with time. There's still not enough people using these like the Evo where's there's plenty of people around developing and creating. Also keep an eye on MIUI for an alternative. WM6 could be customized but in the background, it was always plain WM6. Android allows for much deeper customization and individuality. I can't speak on WM7 as I haven't played with it but reviews haven't been very good. I'm very happy with Android and its only getting more recognition. The more users that move over, the more options and apps we'll see. Its been a good start but its still early in the game imho...
[Galaxy Tab General] BuglessFan:
What you say has nothing to do with the platform, but with the amount of time a device has been in the hands of the community. If you buy a WP7 in a year, yeah, there will have been time for hacks/customizations to appear. Same will be true of the tab soon enough. ClockworkMod only got running reasonably well on a few carriers within the last week, and Samsung didn't release any source code ahead of the release of the Tab. When the Captivate first came out there was only "root" with no ROMs, not much to do, but now there are plenty of ROMs. Because the Tab is pricey and may not sell as hotly to the typical rooting community it might take longer, but I'd be shocked if there weren't several customized ROMs and maybe even porting activity for ROMs from the Galaxy S or other devices.

I would bet my house on the fact that in March or April there will be more choices/activity in the modding community for the Tab than there will for WP7 or any Android device that first ships after the Tab.
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
We agree. That's what i implied in one of my posts. I don't 100% agree though. Pocket outlook is way better than the email app we have on the Tab. That's quite obvious. I can give you a few other examples...

I dont wanna go for WP7, the platform is way too closed. I like the idea that with Android devs will do a great job going forward on ROMs. That's true for the speed, for the layout of the OS, etc... For the apps we need Google or app developers or the phone makers (remember HTC sense ?) to come with good stuff. And we are not there yet

We just talk about different things... you are talking about the OS and custom ROMs, I am talking about the maturity of the apps available for this OS
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
thanks for you ideas guys. i guess we just gotta wait a bit till we get new stuff on our tabs. Yeh spb mobile shell 5 is something i could look forward to on my tab (but i hope it will be released on the wm platform too) as far as im concerned, wp7 has been a great start for Microsoft. it has been selling out very quick in the uk! (hd7) Yeh one of the turn of with this device is its price. i hope we can one day at least get a wsvga port of HTC sense! that would be perfect. but will probably have to be after htc has released their own Android tablet.
[Galaxy Tab General] mario23:
Out of curiosity, what parts of Sense are you all interested in?
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
its deeper integration in the entries os. i have watched videos of it on the desire hd and it looks bloody amazing!! much better than the stock Android os. i am also a big fan of the flip clock and weather animations which i have on my tg01 (wm version of sense ) it also has nice features such ad friend stream etc.
[Galaxy Tab General] kantizuni:
copy + paste

To answer a question from page 1, which I didn't notice an answer to.

Copy and paste of a website is handled differently on the Tab than stock android. Long press on any text in a website, and the word you are pressing on while get highlighted. Then you can drag the small arrow on each side of the word to highlight multiple words, as much text as you want, while a "copy" button should be hovering below that.

Then long press on an input field to paste.

I find this MUCH simpler and easier than the the old "menu > more > select text" method. Hope that helps anyone.
[Galaxy Tab General] mario23:
For what its worth, I moved away from sense on my Evo because I found it to be a little restrictive. I prefer launcher pro which allows me to put up more or less home screens as well as docks and dock launchers including gmail unread ect...

Beyond the homescreen, sense is most noticeable in the world clock and contacts, both of which I feel better apps exist for.

Luncherpro also has a 'friends' widget that works great.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised to custom roms with sense features in the near future...
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
Exactly what I love don my TP2 :)
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
Thank you (It's indeed quite similar to WM 6.5 and I was missing it)

That said... it also means the experience of copy and paste accross the OS on the Tab is different (One way on the browser, another way in the emails, etc...). Again the platform has to mature...
[Galaxy Tab General] Alcibiade:
You prefer Launcher Pro over ADW ? Just a question, I am wondering which one to use (New to Android)