yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S General] morfy50:
Echoing what others have said, but its true. A lot comes down to getting timely updates direct from Google.

I had a Hero before my Nexus One and although the phone was solid, the lack of updates made it a very disappointing experience. Won't do ' non-vanilla' again until manufacturers/carriers prove they will update their phones.
[Nexus S General] tenbeau:
I have a MT4G and a Vibrant and hopefully will pick up a Nexus S tomorrow morning. The MT4g is a very nice solid phone. Having said that I must say I do prefer the Vibrant. I really cannot put my finger on why I like the Vibrant so much better.. I fooled around with the MT4G and let the remorse period end and now I have the phone. I am going to sell the MT4G. Once again though it is a very very good phone. One of the best all around phones I have ever had. Just cannot forge a connection with it.
[Nexus S General] suhas_sm:
myTouch 4G is THE phone!! if u have 4G in ur area. Brilliant specs. But I agree its ugliest looking phone ever. But as long u cover it its fine and excellent phone. I wouldnt go for Nexus S if I already had myTouch 4G. Dual Cores are round the corner. But I m fine with the specs of the Nexus S. No 4g here anyways.

PS: Nexus S is gonna be my first native android phone. Woohoo :P

But I have toyed around most of the android phones of either friends and family :)
[Nexus S General] jroid:
dude, I had the same exact experience. :o
[Nexus S General] Cheeze[iT]:
Ok, still tossing between the two devices. Biggest reason is the $300 price difference. Both have nice features.

Nexus S:

Love that it will get updates in a timely manner

slimmer, sexier

better screen

No 3g so with this and better screen hopefully better battery life

Larger screen

MT4G:

4G

More hardware buttons

Micro SD card slot, (options)

T-Mobile insurance to cover any time of damage :)

I've only used the Nexus S for a day so I'm still going to compare and see if its worth paying more for it. Any other key reasons I'm missing? Just trying to get as much information/feedback before making a decision.
[Nexus S General] Mafioso:
If you want the best and latest, nexus S is the one...but to me also It doesn't give out anything significant over MT4G..Yes faster updates is definitely one plus of Nexus...but if you're on XDA, you most probably be into custom ROMs, and mostly within a week new updates come to popular phones..so that's not such a big thing...same goes for pure google exp...if you don't want custom UI...there are ROMs available to do that..

On the other hand MT4G gives you 4G, WiFi calling and looks are subjective..to me MT4G don't look bad though not as sexy as nexus S though...but as above poster said its $300 more...its not definately worth that IMO
[Nexus S General] raeef:
How did you come up with this number? Compare the unlocked prices,

MT4G (contract free and locked) is 449 , NS unlocked and contract free is 529.
[Nexus S General] azn2050:
He probably meant off CL or something... Im seeing some in my area for about 275-325
[Nexus S General] Anderdroid:
Arrogant Samsung fanboy? Everything I said in my reply was true o.O the only thing the MyTouch 4g has on this is removeable storage and HSPA+. Which are 'necessities' at best. If you absolutely need removeable storage or more than 16gb than the Nexus S isn't for you. Other than that, I get the feeling that HTC fanboys down talk Samsung wrongly and uneducatedly so I like to shove it in their faces ;).

I guess I am an arrogant Samsung fanboy. Or at least, Galaxy S> fanboy. Anything prior to Galaxy S I won't say anything about. The Galaxy S line is 2nd best only to the Nexus S ;)
[Nexus S General] Mafioso:
Yes even on eBay you get the slightly used ones for ~ $300-350 in bidding..
[Nexus S General] schartzr:
I had/have the MT4G and I picked up the Nexus S first thing yesterday.

I played with the phone last night (most of the night) I had things Force Closing on me like crazy, even at one point the phone just totally reset itself.

There are things that I missed about my MT4G, I like how I can set up the lock screen to not lock for (lets say 5 minuts) so I am not having to constantly enter my password. Cannot do that on the Nexus S.

I like to have my Lock screen different from my Wallpaper on my phone. Nexus S cannot do that.

I do want updates right away, butto me those things I cannot just live with out. I know they are kind of dumb and stupid but they actually mean a lot ot me. I do love the way the MT4G looks also the Nexus S is very sexy.

If anybody knows how I can change those things on my Nexus S I might just keep it. But to me those are a deal breaker.

Stupid right

LOL

Thanks for reading.
[Nexus S General] Vegas_Sirk:
Prior to buying the NS I have been using the N1. My N1 is the best phone I have owned and I even returned my G2 to go back to it. I loved having the newest version of Android right away, the ability to not have unwanted apps taking up space, and at the time it was one of the most sold running phones around.

For me the Nexus S, although I was slightly depressed with the specs, will still continue that.
[Nexus S General] deeren:
well i must say , i am keen on getting the nexus s. me too, i am ready to give the nexus s a chance even though samsung has a bad reputation but i reckon that their internals are way better than the available htc's out there right now.

However to say that Galaxy s is 2nd in line is a joke!!!!!!!! should i laugh?

The software of the box is crappy, and on top of that in some countries there are still some sgs stuck on android 2.1 when android 2.3 is already out now. the gps is a bug that even google and samsung reckons ( they had to change the gps/radio/bt chip at the last moment for the nexus) and development is absolutely zero!!!!. although the sgs thread is quite bulky, you can only sum it in lagfixes and kernels threads. :))) The sgs is now 6 months old! has anyone been able to make an aosp rom??? NOPE. Do you have a rom with pure vanilla experience based on a n1 rom? i doubt that. even cyanogen mod doesnt even want to sustain the phone.

so to say that sgs is 2nd in line after the nexus s is way over exagerated.
[Nexus S General] raeef:
Isn't this the same as screen timeout? you can set it for 1, 2, 10 , 30 minutes
[Nexus S General] dinan:
Most of your qualms are from the MT4G's mySense UI, not the actual phone itself. I'm almost certain a Sense rom of some sort will be available for the Nexus S eventually. I believe there's an app for a different lock screen but I can't remember the name...
[Nexus S General] greenstuffs:
I've picked up the MT on CL and the reasoning behind is that $225 is a lot of money and Google updates or NFC does make up the $225. I don't know i've had the vibrant the screen was great but did look unnatural to me compared to like my ips computer screen.

I think is a great phone but at this point in time dropping almost $600 is foolish for a phone when the new dualies are around the corner.

I guess i just ride out this round on the MT until the next Google Dual Core developer phone.
[Nexus S General] D_Rob:
Coming from a G2 owners perspective there are many things that would push this phone above the mytouch4G. The ability to do all of this tinkering without voiding your warranty, better haptic feedback feel, better screen, better radio (yes even though the bars may tell a different story the overall call quality and signal quality on the Nexus S/Vibrant is astonishingly better than a HTC 4g phone), better bluetooth (as in it works, all the time, and responds to input immediately, and doesn't give pop hiss feedback or drop calls/not use 3g/4g/wifi when over bluetooth). HTC's phones have been horrible with bluetooth issues, especially with Sense ui. Better call quality for both ends of the conversation, better gpu, better resale/more value, WAAAAAAY better camera and video recording, even if it isn't 720p, the frame rate and image quality is superb compared to HTC, better external audio in both volume and sound quality.

I guess the point is, I love HTC products, but there are far more wins than losses when coming to the Nexus S. Other galaxy S phones may have some of these things going for them, but the Nexus has them all without being forced to rely on Samsung or a carrier. At least with the Nexus, the only thing people can find to moan about are known before purchase things, with the N1, there were tons of things that just simply didnt work right.
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
What made me crazy is how laggy the MT4G was after I used my Nexus S...my sister has one and I compare them vigorously hahah
[Nexus S General] Kubernetes:
You appear to go on and on about stuff you know nothing about. Development on the SGS phones is very healthy, but it's hard because there is no 2.2 source available. There are plenty of really nicely performing ROMs based on 2.2 leaks though, even AOSPish ones, even though they're not built from source. And CM is supporting SGS; you can even go to their site and see the SGS forums. It's just that CM development is slow because, as I said, there's no 2.2 source yet.

And I'll agree that the SGS is second best right now. The hardware beats any HTC or Moto phone, IMO (unless you think hardware = metal casing).
[Nexus S General] azzeh3:
Thats what I was thinking hahahah
[Nexus S General] deeren:
OMG!!!:)))))))))))))))))))) i can't even believe what i am reading. I do not know what i am saying? well dear mr, i did own an sgs for 4 days and i sold it as soon as i could.

let me ask you a question and please answer me sincerely please? Does the sgs perform out of the box? let's say a member of ur family or ur boss at work wants a superb android phone ( they do not know abt lagfix or about xda., they just want android and would use it as they get it out of the box) , would you reccomend it? Seriously if ur answer is yes, then clearly u have never used a true android device then! got my point?

You say development is healthy? and then u say 2.2 sources are not out ..... they are somewhat contradictory!! anyway so when would u guys get the sources and cook an aosp based 2.2? when the rest of the mobile phones would be on honeycomb?

You have AOSP ish ones without having built them from source?? really? do you know what aosp means? when u cook a rom based on jpo or jpu or whatever samsung rom and remove the samsung customisations , that does not mean u created an AOSP rom!! anyway i guess your answer proved the point who really knows and who dont!

Anyway , i have to agree that sgs do have superb hardware ( not housing ). they are on par with the nexus s. but this clearly shows us that what makes a good mobile phone is not the hardware but also the software combination. so imho, out of the box, sgs stand after all the htc devices that recently came out and even behind htc desire!
[Nexus S General] mingkee:
There is one point everybody is missing: data compatibility.

Android service or 4G web is required on MT4 while most of data services work with NS (I even can use webconnect and web2go with it).

I encounted problem (got upsell error) on NS with web2go with default setting, but it works OK now.

I think you should have peace of mind using NS with t-zones and tmoweb while these cheap date do not work with MT4.

MT4 has wifi calling but hopefully some will port it to NS.

Now NS is rooted, it's possible to enable USB hosting so it can be used with USB drive up to 32GB.
[Nexus S General] jriv:
Stable cm6 just dropped for mt4g getting 2900 on quadrant.

Sent from my icey cold glacier 4g freezing every phone in its path.
[Nexus S General] Kubernetes:
You owned the phone for a whole 4 days? Wow, let me defer to your vastly superior knowledge.

SGS performs fine out of the box. It gets better with the improvements that devs have created for the phones. Hence we're on XDA, because we don't want to be limited to stock.

And yes, I said "AOSPish", not AOSP. Again, there is no 2.2 source, but it is possible to take a 2.2 leak and make it look and behave like vanilla. Honestly, I don't know what your problem is, but you should take a break and go outside for a bit.
[Nexus S General] deeren:
You seriosuly are out of ur mind!! I am still laughing about ur previous statement that dev in sgs is healthy! if u wanna know what is healthy- just make a quick tour on the n1 or desire or g2 forum where any user will have the following choices-

1) Sense based roms

2) Cyanogen rom

3) nightly roms

4) MIUI based roms

5) Sense HD based roms

Now that's what i call a healthy development!!

Anyway you do know what my problem is?? the problem is that the OP clearly precised in the title and description if the NEXUS S WAS BETTER OR NOT THAN MYTOUCH 4G! and you guys, samsung fanboys come up and give comments like sgs is 2nd next to nexus s.....
[Nexus S General] Kubernetes:
A guy made one comment and then you got all hysterical, hence I jumped in. And yes, I still think the SGS is second best due to the hardware. You need to chill and understand that people have different opinions.
[Nexus S General] deeren:
Well, i apologize i got rude a bit and histerical:p:p. In fact, i jumped in in the first place because somebody else got histerical. and yes, everybody has their own tastes. i agree. P.S SGS might also claim the first place in hardware, i just learned that the nexus s didnt have a gorilla glass neither!:confused::confused:

Anyway to the OP: people are not changing because the nexus s is better or not. Tech keeps changing. Next month ur new nexus s will be old in terms of hardware bcause of the new lg with the new tegra 2.....

and then there'll be new mobile coming up with samsung galaxy 2.....CES in FEB!!!... but it will somehow always stay on top of others in terms of software.so it is a matter of support. I am mainly changing because i am sure nexus s will taste honeycomb and icecream (expected Q3-Q4 i think).
[Nexus S General] greenstuffs:
I don't agree with the resale value, you will be lucky to fetch 350 on the ns 6 month down the road with the market full of dual cores, the mt will rest in the 200s and I paid

Like 300 for it
[Nexus S General] shawn1224:
Depends on what you deem important and for me I would say it's a resounding NO. The Mytouch 4G is better ... much better.

No LED indicator

No 720p recording

No SD storage

No HSPA+

No trackpad

Clean Google experience or not, this is a regression from the norm.
[Nexus S General] Cheeze[iT]:
Wow, so much feedback. Well, as far back when I was talking about pricing I was comparing the average $300 for a mytouch 4g on CL vs ~ 575 after taxes. The whole vanilla OS is appealing and the larger screen is nice but at the moment it isn't worth the amount of money I'd be spending to switch to it. Granted if I wasn't trying to spend my money wisely, I'd have no problem going to it but since money doesn't grow on trees I must weigh the pros/cons to how much I'd be spending.

One of my concerns though is development. Similar to the nexus one, I imagine the nexus s should have the same kind of development and I fear that the mt4g will be lost. I contemplated going back to the g2 for this reason alone as I rely on the development of the device to determine which device I would lean towards more.

So besides vanilla OS on the Nexus S, what CAN the Nexus S do that the mt4g can't?
[Nexus S General] jriv:
Development is picking up quickly with the mytouch miui just got released so did cm6 already got desire hd and a desire z rom

Sent from my icey cold glacier 4g freezing every phone in its path.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] CrysiZ:
Is it possible to unlock my Lg P500?

It's locked on vodafone.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] domenic_s:
Yes of course, but you need an unlock-code, and this thing you only can get from vodafone. And you will lost your warranty.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Guardian_Bob:
So I'm going to maintain the latest and greatest version of Blinky in the Captivate forum, but I didn't want other users to miss out.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=854721

This should work with any ROM that supports neldar's BLN patch, though some ROMs replace the library on boot.

ROM maintainers - Contact me if you want the source to the lights library.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] MAMBO04:
WOW i thought this wasn't possible because our boards don't support it? Anyway thanks, i'll try it :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Guardian_Bob:
I'm very interested in if this doesn't work for a ROM or rev of the phone. Like I said, if neldar's patch works (meaning you have BLN now) this should work.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] MAMBO04:
It says it's found Enhanced BLN, i flashed the zip via Voodoo Recovery, seems like it worked :) now to test, will report back in 5.

I can confirm that this indeed works on the I9000. I tested it with the ROM in my signature, so my guess is it will work with every Doc ROM and hopefully others. We need more people to test this, so please do and report back here for the benefit of everyone and the dev :)

Great job here bud! So when the lights pulse (e.g in the Nokia phones - fade in and out) is that also possible in the future?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Guardian_Bob:
While throbbing is possible, it would require a fair amount of CPU scheduling. If I implement it, it will be only while plugged in.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Bandis710:
:D:D Just tested it on DOC's 4.0 JPU 2.2.1 froyo rom and it works like charm . Great work !
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] MAMBO04:
Ah i see, sounds great anyway :) pretty amazing how a Nokia 5800 can handle throbbing and our phone can't.. :D

Would it strain the CPU if you kept throbbing on whilst it was charging (i.e to show it's charging)?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Guardian_Bob:
So here's the thing, there's an embedded microprocessor controlling the capsense buttons and lights. If we could get a hold of the firmware, then we could do very cool things. But we can't so the light control has to be done by the main CPU.

I'll see how well throbbing works, I may be overestimating the drain.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] MAMBO04:
Ah i see.. it all makes sense to me now :) thanks for explaining! Damn, how on earth could one get that firmware :rolleyes:

Yeah, it'd be cool to test out and see what happens.

P.S: Last question, would it be possible to change the colour of the lights?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] KLoNe1:
Wow; pulsing will be incredible!

Colour change will only be available via a hardware modification (manually unsoldering and changing the SMD LEDs.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] MAMBO04:
Cheers for explaining :)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] balanala:
HELP!! i have an LG GT540 and really want to be able to save applications onto the sd card, i have tried practically every guide out there but to no avail,

does anyone have a guide THAT WORKS and that has a LG GT540 Optimus, and managed to SUCCESSFULLY move their apps onto their sd card?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] DonPanda:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9322629&postcount=2

have fun :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Burning_aces:
Was thinking we could get a list of recommended apps we all use fairly often and what not. Guess I'll start then edit the the post as more app's come in.

*Handcent SMS

*Facebook for android

*ES File Explorer

*Soundhound

*APKTOR

*SMS Bomber

*Juice Defender/Plotter

*Doubletwist

*CacheMate
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] forelli:
Good idea!

Here are mine:

Fancy widget

Battstatt

Skype

Xda app

Tweetdeck (for active interaction)

Twidroyd (to read tweets and check links)

SetCPU

Astro

Metro

Tajm

Beautiful widget

Qando (for Austrians)

Swype

Root explorer

Sms backup

Call log backup

Network speed

Shoot me

That's all folks!

Swyped from The Galactic Empire using the Dark Side of The Force
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Ma-aN:
Hello everyboy,

It might be nice to add a short description after the programs name to clarify it's purpose? That way people don't have to search the market for the program every time they don't recognize it.

As for the apps, only one new suggestion:

Scrollable news - Scrollable RSS reader widget
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] oldmanofskye:
Don't want to be a pest, but one of your apps (Applanet to be precise) is an app providing warez (illegal, pirated apps), and as such should NOT be advertised on this forum. Please remove it from your list before mods will see it.

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] SiL3nTKiLL:
thanks for this list :)
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] Burning_aces:
My bad, thanks for the hint
[Desire HD Themes and Apps] karthics4:
My list of recommended apps

Xda app- Used to quickly comment on posts

Quick Settings- To change settings without going into the about menu

Tweetdeck - To tweet or post updates

ES File Explorer- Used to access fill system

Swype

Battery Indicator - To quickly see a the percentage of battery left at a glance

Springpad - For taking quick notes

VPlayer- To play all media files

Tunein Radio

Yelp- Used to see what's around me

Tripit- Used to sync my itineraries

Layar- Used to see what people are doing around me using AR (Augmented Reality)
[Droid 2 Android Development] Matt4542:
/This rom has had a name change from Unleashed 3.0 to Cobalt 1.0 because this is a new chapter for my rom and I thought a new name should be put in place

Please join my IRC http://webchat.darkwingduck.org

and join #cobalt. Type /join #cobalt to join.

Please follow me on Twitter! http://twitter.com/mattg4542

Thanks:

cvpcs for publicly posting his source.

slayher for his help over and over helping me compile a rom straight from Google's source.(Later switched to cvpcs')

Speels and everyone else for their support when I started getting annoyed with this rom.

Updates from alpha:

MANY new features

Audio is working from source, so you can use DSPManager now.

The phone will not reboot when you press the lock/unlock button.

Galaxy S like notification bar power settings.

For screen shots on some of the extra features: http://s408.photobucket.com/albums/pp161/linkinpark4542/cobalt/

Known issues:

GPS is not accurate

Auto-rotate

Haptic feedback (vibrate when touching soft-keys)

ALT-lock doesn't function (You can double click "ALT" to ALT-lock, though.)

Camcorder doesn't function (Camera does!)

Charge light doesn't function

Thanks UrbanBounca for the guide! This will fix every issue that you have had.

Watch a review of Cobalt by barczakmark! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaLdZietLnE

Thanks to my good friend Rob for hosting the ROM.

NOTE 1: This rom's development will be halted in favor of something else. You will see soon enough.

NOTE 2: Ignore GEM Notifications in the Cobalt Extras. I forgot to remove that I and I didn't notice it until the rom was already uploaded. [/B]

MD5 SUMS

6402a709c18208bb11448b19d1514768 Cobalt-1.0Gapps.zip

For the best battery life please use these settings in SetCPU or DROIDX/2 Overclock
[Droid 2 Android Development] stupidpopmediareference:
WE ARE NOT WORTHY!!! WE ARE NOT WORTHY!!!

Thanks a million, Matt!
[Droid 2 Android Development] miketoasty:
I am WAY too excited for this!
[Droid 2 Android Development] draya1986:
Nice work.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Seanydizzley:
Can't wait! Will the jet pack be included with this release?! :D
[Droid 2 Android Development] l1f35ux:
Awesome Matt. Once the fully functional version comes out I'm willing to drop some $ for sure
[Droid 2 Android Development] rtfield:
You are the man. Can't wait.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Matt4542:
I renamed the post :) Take a look.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Seanydizzley:
Hahahaha! Okay, that seals the deal. Next payday shall be a pay day for both of us! :D

I'm watching this thread like a hawk!
[Droid 2 Android Development] HerroMoto:
Wait, so when you release the ROM these issues: "Video camera doesn't work

Capicative buttons do not vibrate

ALT key doesn't work.

I had suposed fixes for two of these, but they didn't work :/" will still be there? Just confused if you are talking about the old issues with the alpha rom.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Matt4542:
Release isn't tonight. I can't get it to boot so I will work on it tomorrow.
[Droid 2 Android Development] Matt4542:
Same issues from the for those.