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[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
After some testing I found that it's likely that boot stops when initrd executes "sleep 1" command (search for comments with an arrow) :

#!/bin/sh
echo "Welcome to Vogue Linux"
mkdir -m 0755 /proc
mount -t proc proc /proc
mkdir -m 0755 /sys
mount -t sysfs sys /sys
echo "MAKEDEVS"
#Configure Devices
MAKEDEVS

fail() {
echo "Failed"
echo "$1"
exec /bin/sh
}
while [ ! -d /sys/block/mmcblk0 ] ; do
echo "Waiting for SD Card"
sleep 1
done
echo "Wait 1 sec" <--- THIS IS THE LAST LINE VISIBLE IN CONSOLE
#Wait a bit once mmcblk0 appears
#Reading partition table could take some time
sleep 1
echo "Continue" <--- THIS LINE NEVER SHOWS UP
#Call it ... root= ?
#I don't do that because I don't want to interfer in any way with kernel
root_partition=`/bin/grep -o "root_partition=.*" /proc/cmdline | /bin/sed -e "s/.*root_partition=//g" -e "s/ .*//g"`

Maybe some of our clock code is incorrect so it doesn't know how long it should sleep?! This need to be tracked down.

*EDIT* Hmm... deleting this delay didn't help. It still hangs after less than 1 second after "mmcblk0: p1" line. Maybe it's something else :S
[Touch HD Android Development] neo_zycho:
thanks, not yet, but i will. i just have updated the sdk. will try your given link. im using c# which i think has similarity in java, which i want to learn java also, in this case, i will start on android. hope you can still answer my questions if any. again thank you
[Touch HD Android Development] paul-ac:
i am waiting so for it!!! :eek:
[Touch HD Android Development] helicopter88:
I think it has problem mounting sd-card

try to swap it,usually when my phone hangs at mmcblk0p2(on ext2 partition bulids)it's because i partitioned bad or i did something stupid and it can't find the internal mmc of diamond
[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
It's certainly worth checking out. I'll try second card when I have another free day to do some tests. I would have never thought something as trivial as faulty partition on SD card may hold me back (ofc if that's the reason) :) Maybe I should post my files (NBH + modules) so others can test it too.
[Touch HD Android Development] helicopter88:
If it's that the reason,it's pretty easy to fix,just add a line in tinboot.s cmdline

and you are done

I can help you if you want,but i'm with a diam100 and i'm currently doing some researches with arggghhh about a thing
[Touch HD Android Development] xdmcdmc:
Basically the kernel we have used didn't had the right drivers (epson) for our panel. As soon as I have added the panel drivers and compiled, the problem was solved. From my point of view, next step will be to debug why Android, after creating the data store, fails to go to next step. Logs didn't help at all, somebody will have to put more logs in the kernel and find out using lots of tests where kernel stops.

Unfortunately I have less and less free time and I'm afraid I can't continue investigations. Maybe somebody else can continue the work, also please watch the Rhodium NAND progress, I have a feeling that once the problem is solved for Rhodium will be solved for Blackstone as well.

Regards
[Touch HD Android Development] Spige:
Keep it up!!

Nice work, still waiting :)
[Touch HD Android Development] detlef25:
I just got my hands on a Blackstone with busted display. I hope I can fix it, and then it's all NAND from here on. Anyway, that's the plan :)

xdmcdmc, I'll work on NAND and will try to continue your good work. Could you post a diff against rhodium-nand git or just the changed files? Or maybe ACL could commi them?
[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
I can give you a set of patches for linux-msm-blac-nand git (it's a clone of rhod-nand without few commits that broke our progress) . It will bring you as far as we are now. Next step is to make rhod-nand Blackstone compatible :)
[Touch HD Android Development] moharu:
wait

could u give us more information where NAND development is right now

like i read that we got tinboot loading but breaks down an panel (i dont know what that is but...)

due to what i have read .... we might need a NAND kernel ?????????????

but i got to say that we have moved up a lot :)
[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
We're using a clone of rhodium nand kernel now. "Broken panel" issue is just our display wasn't initialized by the kernel - certain driver was missing. Now, when display is working again kernel hangs somewhere later, but still before Android gets loaded. For now basically nobody is investigating this issue since xdmcdmc had to give up, and I'm busy too (I'm only working on this when I have some spare time).

I can share my code if anyone wants to speed things up.
[Touch HD Android Development] detlef25:
Yes, that would be great. Could you mail them? I sent you a PM.

I won't make any promises on progress, but I'll tinker with it :)
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Hi Guys,

This might annoy you but,

Whats the status on Android NAND ? :rolleyes:
[Touch HD Android Development] helicopter88:
There are some problems initializing the display,and we need a kernel fix for this
[Touch HD Android Development] helicopter88:
There are some problems initializing the display,and we need a kernel fix for this

And DFT took a rhodium/topaz and them are porting magldr
[Touch HD Android Development] Simon_WM:
Kwl thanks for the update
[Touch HD Android Development] [ACL]:
Hey fellas.. hope is all well with your project.

I was wondering who can help us get the correct RAMSIZE for the rhodium. We have been running the wrong number for a long time since we didnt need it, but now its getting to the point where nand is solid and we no longer rely on SD cards.

Anyone ?
[Touch HD Android Development] lqy271828:
Support HD straight brush Android
[Touch HD Android Development] zeroguitar:
I think this guy must from CHINA....

and what mean is "Straight Brush"??

but in Chinese...may be somebody know that mean is (?)

finally, xda's devs' are very hardly to develop the NAND Android.

I think some day they'll be success, and bring our blackstone to another new world~
[Touch HD Android Development] [ACL]:
no one ? really ?
[Touch HD Android Development] Eodun:
Not many dev's here really...
[Touch HD Android Development] willhard1986:
English with Chinese form :D
[Touch HD Android Development] Pete Rask:
Hopefully the other guys that have joined this project will continue working on it, as the very creator of this thread has bought a HD2.

But we may as well hope that he keeps his Blackstone instead of selling it and help the others out with nand.

Thx a lot for your work anyways!! :)
[Touch HD Android Development] neo_zycho:
i really like to help, im a developer for .NET which i think is not related on developing a NAND. but if someone can point me on how to start developing and debug, im willing to. i have a blackstone.
[Touch HD Android Development] Pete Rask:
Your interest is very much appreciated! Maybe this could be a start-off for you.

Tinboot / NAND [Instructions - Status - Devs]

How To Compile Your Own Kernels, Modules, Tinboot (NAND boot), and More for Beginners

Building kernel for Diamond, Raphael, Blackstone, Topaz, and Rhodium
[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
I would love to help, but not sure what you want us to do? We had no idea which address we should use so we used yours assuming it is good enough. You have any ideas how can we obtain RAMSIZE?
[Touch HD Android Development] Ghostface1979:
Maybe we/you could try to contact HTC support...maybe worth a try ?

Once you got a reply keep asking...It helped me when I was struggling with my Asus mainboard
[Touch HD Android Development] Srage87:
is it possible just to make a nbh which contains only a bootloader, so android could be loaded from the sdcard? so no winmo required at all
[Touch HD Android Development] am20033:
there is already a nbh with a bootloader! its called tinboot. the problem is to implement a working kernel...

i think we can wait for the dark forces team. they are working on nandroid for topaz and rhodium. maybe their bootloader magldr will be portable to our devices??
[Touch HD Android Development] helicopter88:
It could being ported,but we don't have access to the source code...

Is closed source and only dft+cotulla can edit it

I just started cloning the rhodium source
[Touch HD Android Development] xdmcdmc:
Guys, the blackstone just boot using tinboot to android. We already have the right memory addresses. I don't understand why people just looks for that data?

The only problem is the kernel. Once that problem is solved Blackstone should be able to boot directly on Android installed on SD.

If somebody will release an Android ported for Rhodium or Topaz, most sure that will work on Blackstone too (maybe only some small kernel changes).
[Touch HD Android Development] Srage87:
I'm not sure if i got everything clear...

So we got a thinboot, but it includes kernel in nbh cannot be changed?

Because i see many android releases with mostly working stuff but they require haret.exe to boot? those releases can't be used with thinboot instead of windowns + haret?

If some is so kind could give me a rundown on the current states (i wasnt following the happenings in past half year due to university kept me busy). but i would like to get rid of win-mo (tho no big problems with it, but i prefer a linux instead of win due to i'm doing programming a lot, but not yet familiar with mobile devices like these)
[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
Tinboot is a simple bootloader. It loads linux kernel and initrd from NAND on device startup - other things are still loaded from sd card. We use modified kernel since the regular one does not initialize all hardware properly (winmo does that instead).

For now nobody (besides me) is really looking into it and I can't figure out why it hangs randomly. I wasn't able to boot further than that:
[Touch HD Android Development] helicopter88:
Maybe a stupid question,do i have to unpack initrd.gz when compiling the nbh,or i leave it as is?

About your issue,screen is initialized correctly,android is booted but it hangs...

May it be an init problem?
[Touch HD Android Development] mitikos:
i understand nothing of it...

but i think i do not like the "can't access ttw; job control tuned off"

the "irq already on 4 4" is nothing

But i'm just a monkey :P
[Touch HD Android Development] helicopter88:
can't access tty;job control turned off,i don't know what does this mean,but if it happens after android,it's normal

Irq thing should be something related to keyboard/hard keys
[Touch HD Android Development] Numptyfied:
I wish i knew How to help. I want to code for the blackstone and get nandroid running but if i start asking questions and try to help. I will only slow you down. :o
[Touch HD Android Development] g3rm0:
No, it's all normal :)

You don't have to unpack initrd. Just throw it to correct folder.

My kernel has screen enabled but it crashes constantly. I often get ARM9 has Crashed messages so it may be radio related problem.

In logs everything is ok (well most of the stuff is) except the last line "SMD: ch 0 Opening -> Opened". It shouldn't be there and it freezes after that. I know some Rhod variants had the same problem so we might get lucky (if it's already fixed for them?). Other than that screen colors are off despite using correct mddi driver.

*EDIT*

After some research I found that GSM Rhods have the same problems and they are still trying to figure it out. When they do it's more than likely this fix will also work for our device. For now I'll try to find the cause of "wrong colors" with our drivers.
[Touch HD Android Development] oshan:
Hey people, I'm here to try help out with this project. I have a blackstone, 15yrs unix/linux/programming exp. I've built my own flavours of linux in the past and have a pretty good understanding of linux on x86 hardware. No experience on embedded devices though, so need a bit of a quick learing curve.

Just wanted to help out with this.... soooo whats the best form of attack at this stage of the effort..... g3rm0/stickman? anyone want to point me in the best direction.

Cheers XseSiV (oshan)
[Touch HD Android Development] Srage87:
hmm, we should exclude kernel and so on from the bootloader, so easily any system file could be changed without flashing... if someone can send me the bootloader i will look up the code for this on firday. at least i try, but i guess it's in the nbh because the handling of SD... maybe uboot:D
[Touch HD Android Development] oshan:
I'm setting up a dev environment for this tonight and reading up on the info and links posted in this thread at the moment. Looking forward to start playing with the kernel on this device soon :)
[General Topics] FirefighterDown:
Had my HTC Touch up till 2009. Got to say it was/is by-far the best phone I ever owned. Had no problems with it and the thing was as solid as a brick. Used to drop it onto the pavement when walking outside the mall and nothing ever scrambled it or damaged it. It remained intact and in one piece. The speed of it wasn't the fastest as it was GSM but in Canada back then, no one really even knew about 3G phones as most used GSM Blackberries and **** like that. Plus I do miss the old Touch Flo 3D Cube from it, which surprisingly isn't available on any other newer HTC device.

What I would give to reunite with a HTC Touch :(
[General Topics] tito12:
Agree 100% :D BTW still using it after 2 and a half years! I also own an iPhone but in many ways the Touch surpasses it :cool:
[General Topics] hexskrew:
Wow you poor bastards must have had some terrible cell phones for the touch to be the best one... That phone is horrible all the way around!
[General Topics] LordManhattan:
I still have the Touch (not using it), and it's one of the worst phones i've had. True story.
[General Topics] MacaronyMax:
Mine went in the washing machine a while ago... Don't remember it much :D
[General Topics] vetvito:
Got rid of mine at the end of 2009. I must say, we had some great times. It truly was a wonderful device.
[General Topics] SiL3nTKiLL:
yeah my touch was awesome!
[G Tablet General] openallnight:
Hi

I am getting an error mounting sdcard2. Is there some setup needed for it to be mounted or is it automatic after insert?

thanks
[G Tablet General] djpimpbot:
odd...I'm having the same issue but in status, its showing No SD Card. I popped in two working microSD that was used on my rooted G1 and both show up fine when I plug it and turn on my old G1 phone....any suggestions or did i get a bad G Tablet

:(
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Assuming you are using TnT (Lite), it should be automatic. I have a 32GB microSD and it is seen on boot, and I can remove and reinsert with no issues.

We know that VOLD mounts the device, and that there's something in the framework that controls this. gojimi managed to replicate this in the VEGAn build, for example.

As to why your cards aren't working, the only things I can think of that either the GTab is finicky with certain cards, or that it's not formatted as FAT32. I'm going on the assumption that the former is more likely.

If you have access to ADB, you might want to look into the logcat logs to see if there are any errors when the device is inserted.
[G Tablet General] openallnight:
hmm wierd. i was using zpad and did not see an option to mount the card. i changed to tntlite now i can mount and see it.
[Touch CDMA General] DallasW:
Well, not sure exactly what happened, but somehow the LCD screen of my phone cracked today and stopped working. It couldn't have been from an impact, as the front glass is still intact, the digitizer still works, and I don't remember any major impacts the phone had in the hour it was in my pocket before I noticed it wasn't working.

In any case, I just had a few questions:

1) Are all the screens for the GSM/CDMA versions of the Touch the same? I've found some listings on ebay for Dopod S1, XV6900, P3450, and other screens. Will any of these work?

2) If it's an extra $2 for an ebay auction with a digitizer and a screen, should I just buy that instead for the backup digitizer?

3) Does anyone have a spare Touch lying around with a working screen, or even just the screen itself. I'd rather not wait 3 weeks for it to arrive from China.

4) Is there any way to get the ESN off the phone using ADB or anything so I could clone it onto a spare phone I have in the meantime?

Thanks!
[Touch CDMA General] egzthunder1:
Answers:

1. There are various models of the Vogue and Elf. The drivers are different between some of them and wouldn't work, so you have to make sure that you are getting the correct one.

2. Might as well

3. I do, but referring back to Q1, what version of the Vogue do you have (Bell, Verizon, Sprint, etc)? The one that I have is a Verizon Vogue with a broken power button. The thing works and needs the power button to be soldered back to the main board and a new case since the power button (the plastic part on the body) is broken. If you can get me $10 + shipping I will gladly let it go.

4. Yes there is, but discussion of this topic is not allowed on XDA as it is an illegal practice in most countries.

Hope this helps.
[Touch CDMA General] DallasW:
It's a Bell unit. In my huge amount of reading this morning I read something about how the android kernel's autodetect the screen in use and use the correct driver? If your unit would work I'd def want it!

Thanks for your help!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] porkenhimer:
I downloaded this cab which is a video editor from the OMNIA 2.

HTTP://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=700435

It works but not as it should. Whenever I click on a setting or feature it will not go to the next screen unless i minimize and reopen the app or slide the keyboard out and in. Does anyone know how to make this work the way it should? I am using it on my TILT 2 which is OVERCLOCKED to 768MHz. I do not think it is my cpu cause it does the same thing on the HD2. Could I be missing something that is available on the OMNIA 2 but not the TP2 such as a DLL or XML that has to be added to make this work right?
[A7 General] denoxster:
Hi guys,

As we know that Elocity A7 start shipping and some had received their toy.

If possible can someone create a new Elocity section.

I am sure a lot of people exited with its new tegra processor :)

Thank you.
[A7 General] moku160:
I second that thought :)
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Third it!!!

So far scouring the net i have read one review on Amazon only by someoen who actually got theirs.

Its not vapor eare ad is quite intriguing. Seems it could also be a 7 inch kin to the g tablet
[A7 General] jazzbone:
Yes, please!
[A7 General] Canadoc:
can't wait for your unboxing

Keys for me are :

1)viewing angles and that resolution is good enough

2)responsiveness of Ui

3)rootable to get market on it

4)battery life
[A7 General] denoxster:
Well my A7 now is at ups truck, can't wait until ups guy knock my door :)

For resolution I am sure will not be a problem since my archos 70 has some resolution.
[A7 General] hashbrown:
Agreed, this needs a section. How can Notion Ink already have a section yet availability set for late January???
[A7 General] cadiken:
Yes new section for Elocity A7.

I ordered yesterday and it shipped today. I'm so excited I shaking.
[A7 General] denoxster:
Received my A7 few minutes ago, it is extremely fast.

The only let down is this device doesn't support hardware multi touch, I think.

Browser that come with it have pinch to zoom support but its jerky and does not render properly, pinch to zoom on dolphin hd is not supported at all.

This defeat the purpose of having tablet as internet browsing machine.

Well, I will wait for few days to see if there is any fix about this issue, otherwise she will go back to tigerdirect :(
[A7 General] Desperus:
I support the petition.. please create Elocity A7 Forum section!
[A7 General] ryoung07:
Agreed. Please create this section.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
nice pic please give us a review!!!!

Let us know if you can get angry birds working and any other root related mods
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Mods please give Elocity its forum!!!!
[A7 General] umar.ranjha:
Video Player in Elocity to play 1080P movies?

Can anyone tell me what kind of Videoplayer insalled in the elocity to play 1080P movies. GTABLET doesn' t play 1080P movies with Hardware decode. Also i like the launcher if some can post the APK!!!
[A7 General] bhageman:
Initial feedback

Just my random notes, I'm not an Android developer, but I have been running a rooted Droid for quite awhile. And advanced novice...

-Rooted out of the box, able to install Superuser. Getting fc with SetCPU, but Titanium Backup works fine.

-Wifi connected immediately. Hasn't lost connection. Streaming Pandora for two+ hours.

-Feels very quick. Page downloads in Dolphin HD are quick with minimal latency. Quadrant = 1900

-Able to stream video from Orb via the web interface with no changes to settings (nice!)

-Running apps with no problems: Newsrob, Pandora, Skype, ADW, Act 1 Video, Dolphin

-Winamp wifi sync working

-Speedtest.net: On my 10/5 Comcast account, scored 5/3.5. Droid scored 1.3/.7

-No multi-touch: Tap to zoom in Dolphin.

Wish list:

-Cyanogen ROM

-Overclock

-Marketplace

-Multi-touch

Overall, I'm very pleased for a $299 tablet and I'm definitely keeping it. If 1-3 on my wishlist come true in the next few weeks, I'll be absolutely thrilled with this.
[A7 General] durango99:
I'd love to see a elocity section. Thanks!
[A7 General] xda2392:
Elocity Section

I'd like to see one created also

Thanks
[A7 General] Elementix:
Give us an eLocity forum please XDA. :)
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Please make this happen XDA! We're making progress on this thing!

It's rooted, out of the box, we figured out how to get into recovery, we got adb working over wifi, we got LCD Density working...

We really need a forum so that we can pull together and get a better recovery installed, we need GApps and the Market, and on to custom roms!

TIA,

Billy
[A7 General] hashbrown:
I uploaded another youtube video to demo the basic recovery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZypl3lYUdQ[/url]
[A7 General] Dany0:
What? Why you already vote for eLocity, add Herotab MID816 first. It's almost just as fast but at least the has resistive display. Also it's definetly going to have a wider community. Stoopid iPad, who the world made a MID with capacitive display and called it a tablet?

I mean what the heck?

EDIT:

For desktops here's the link from above:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZypl3lYUdQ

gimme a thanks! ^^
[A7 General] hashbrown:
ah thanks for fixing that url link. Soft buttons work to navigate recovery.

search=up, back=down,home=menu and menu=enter.

Its not as robust as clockwork but I did find a built-in backup utility installed.

Settings/privacy/backup/restore settings and applications
[A7 General] nev310:
We dont need overclock we need updated tegra 2 drivers. The gtab scored 2600 and i get 1800 with my elocity.

The tegra 2 will run up to 1.2 ghz and is dual core with other cores too. I dont think the elocity is even using both cores

I have been using sam 4.0 to load apps.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Yes we need updated drivers.

The gtab scores same as elocity in stock mode. About 1800 on quadrant. Hacked Roms from Tegra/Tnt lite with the new tegra drivers speeds quadrant up to around 2400.

It is only a matter of time.
[A7 General] jetracers:
Where is a good place to get these apk files specifically the one for skype?
[A7 General] rogconnect:
Can u share the version of Skype?

I got a few versions and nothing seem to work!

Thanks!
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
If its a matter of management, I volunteer to be a mod. I'm a mod on another, very active message board and have been for about 5 years.

Billy
[A7 General] Elementix:
I agree. If that's all that's needed, I will also volunteer. The A7 deserves a forum now that we actually have the device (unlike the Notion Ink Adam that isn't even out yet.).
[A7 General] khiemahhh:
Yup, I would be interested in seeing Elocity A7 have its own section too.
[A7 General] hoagm:
Throw in my vote too
[A7 General] bhageman:
I found it on 4shared.com There were a couple version, I tried a couple before I found one that worked. I don't remember which it was.