yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Ok...so I decided on what I should do here. All the builds that are on the main page will remain there for a while, but the only one I will actively keep up with is the 4.1.9.1 kernel for Sense (because this is an "outdated" kernel, all future Netarchy kernels will hopefully have the charging fix once I get it down 100%). There's an AOSP kernel called "Savage Kernel" that will also have the updated SBC charging stuff. I have some people testing v6 so we'll see how that goes, I'll find out more about that kernel tomorrow or later on tonight.

I think that sticking with just one kernel will get rid of the confusion and whatnot, and it'll be easier for me to answer questions. Because a lot is getting lost in these pages and I can't remember who's on what.
[EVO 4G Android Development] zerowonderboy:
So is there going to be a nohavs 4.1.9.1 because im still having bad luck with the aggressive
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mayonesa:
where can i download the Savage Kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
Can anyone give me some insight if this is what the battery tweak should perform like...Seems good but I want to make sure...

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] edgemaster191:
i just installed Savage Beta2 and right off the bat i noticed it's nowhere near as fast as the stock CM6.1.1 kernel.

the OS seems ok but both linpak and quadrant scores are way under what i was getting with the CM6.1.1 kernel

(yes i flashed both delvik and cache with amen-ra)

i'll give it a day or two and see how it does with battery life compared to CM6
[EVO 4G Android Development] PhantomHacker:
Charging my phone back to 100% on v6, will post back asap.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
Are you having wifi problems?
[EVO 4G Android Development] typeadam:
After all my issues w/ USB, ADB, AC charging (I even flashed Amon Ra like you suggested) I decided to go down this road and try out Savage Beta 2. I flashed it about an hour ago and MY ADB AND USB MOUNT WORKS!!! :D:D:D:D

24-hour nightmare is over!

(Now watch...it won't work in the morning... :rolleyes:)

However, tomorrow will be the true test of how it holds the juice, how long it lasts at 100% and HOPEFULLY my batt. mon. widget log will show NO negative mAs when I wake up...

Thanks again for the help before. Oh and I'll stay w/ Amon Ra, it seems to do a better job wiping dalvik/cache than Clockwork...
[EVO 4G Android Development] edgemaster191:
what kind of wifi problems am i looking out for? so far it seems ok, connected to my wifi and streaming data with no issues, doesn't seem to disconnect on me (sleep policy set to never)
[EVO 4G Android Development] kenny111008:
so can anyone help explain why im having such bad battery drain i posted pictured and i have no clue what to do
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
Some people were reporting issues with connection and signal dropping off. Thanks for the info.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tandxcstar1:
V5.I charged to 100% waited 30mins hit 0mA and now 45mins later nothing but -2mA now. At least its not -30 or higher but no positives in the mix as of yet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] typeadam:
I flashed Salvage Beta 2 over an hour ago, been on WiFi since and no issues either.
[EVO 4G Android Development] edgemaster191:
yeah i'm a big fan of Amon Ra. a while ago i was having issues flashing roms with clockwork, turns out clockwork wasn't wiping the caches properly, switched to amon-ra and everything is golden.

i'm glad you got USB/ADB back :) sorry the kernel wasn't working for you, it seemed to be working great for me, i just want to try something with SBC v5 and see if there is a difference with battery life. although it's not a perfect comparison as they're two different base kernels. :-/

let me know what you think of Savage Beta2. i just flashed a few minutes ago and noticed my benchmark scores are low (profile set to performance, tried 1152 and 1190 clocks) i'm going to run it tomorrow and see how it holds out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] roadster92:
You mentioned the phone is off the charger and gone negative right?

If that the case then there is nothing wrong with it, your phone is off charger and being on battery, therefore you should see negative mA. As to the question why it draining so fast? Did you check and see if there are any apps running in background? Did your phone go to sleep when it suppose too? What is your Time without signal (This should happen if you are in area that has bad coverage)?

Was your 4G On all the time... All these things can affect how battery life during the day. Was this kernel draining your battery faster than the original kernal?
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
Is it tough to switch to RA from CW?

I have CW due to using Rom manager but from what I am hearing Ra is much better and more dependable with Cache clearing.

THanks

eins
[EVO 4G Android Development] typeadam:
You can switch to Amon Ra right from ROM Manager. I know it's better to flash everything via recovery but in this case I think you'll be OK.

Side note: Amon Ra looks very similar to the recovery I had way back on my Hero.. Wonder if it's the same thing b/c I know I didn't have Clockwork back then...
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
still getting negative mA on usb once I get to 100% v5

edit, unplugged and stayed at 100%, plugged back in and charging again

edit saw your working on that fix
[EVO 4G Android Development] 08tundra:
Can someone pls help me im trying to figure out what to.set setcpu and or if to delete it and not run it at all im looking.for the best battery performance ... thanks in advance
[EVO 4G Android Development] kenny111008:
no i just turned the 4g on just to browsw xda while on that phone call 4g was off and i didnt use it at all i posted the s pare parts screenshots and my awake time was only an hour then i spen an hour using it and it stayed still at 10% during the usage
[EVO 4G Android Development] typeadam:
Savage does seem to lag a bit compared to this kernel. I haven't benchmarked it for a number of reasons: Not sure which is the best benchmark app to use :o, didn't have time b/c of work..

I don't use SetCPU b/c I fried my Hero with it. However Savage is giving me a min of 245 and max over 1k. I'm wondering if that min is causing the lag. Although, the min is only during idle, right and when the battery is under 10%. I think, if I remember back, that's what I was told during my Hero days... :confused:

I'll see if MS updates his CM kernels w/ v5 and I'll run them to compare (hopefully the USB/ADB won't resurface).

For now I'll stick w/ Savage. Yeah, it lags but the phone is still FAST!
[EVO 4G Android Development] yoss15:
I'm hoping someone can help me.

I'm getting terrible battery life, my phone is at 15 percent after taking it off the charger about 7 hours ago with faulty light usage, some texts and emails.

System monitor says my CPU has been at almost 100% the whole time. It says that the system is using it and the iqd process specifically.

Any ideas on how I can fix this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NiMiNuM:
MS, im running your 4.1.9 kernel with myn's rls4. I noticed you said that the 4.1.9 is outdated, so should I be using this kernel or a newer version? Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] oasis9389:
not sure if this has been said in the 188 pages, i have read a lot of them though.

i am running cm6.1 with the cm kernel from this post.

now the 100% works, i stay on 100% for around an hour, which obviously i never had before.

but once it hits 99 its all down hill from there and i feel i get a lot worse battery overall.

with the stock kernel or the test one by toast i was getting 24-30 moderate use. with this one i get 14ish

i used it the past 2 days with setcpu and i feel setcpu was making it worse, going to try it without tomorrow and then switch back if its the same results.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 08tundra:
Can someone pls help me im trying to figure out what to.set setcpu at and or if to delete it and not run it at all im looking.for the best battery performance ... thanks in advance
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
Thanks...

That was weird, I used ROM Manager to load RA

Went to the bootloader screen and selected the USB option so I could move a file to the SD card but now windows says it doesnt have a driver for the USB device.

I have Sync installed and when I was using clockwork it just popped a new drive up and I had access.

Does RA need a different USB driver?

I have it set to Charge only and USB debugging turned on.

eins
[EVO 4G Android Development] oasis9389:
personally i feel setcpu gives me worse results whenever i use it.. see above.

i do use the app "overclock widget" and i underclock it when the screen is off and just set a moderate top level for the cpu. i always get better results with that widget.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 08tundra:
Thanks for the quick reply ...ill give it a try
[EVO 4G Android Development] oasis9389:
try them both out and see which works better. some swear by setcpu but i always see my battery drain worse when i use it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] albe070:
This happened to me when I updated my pri to 1.90 n was using a rom that was not 3.7. If u still on a 3.30 or prior go back to pri 1.77 n it should fix it
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
just curious about these comments about clockworkmod not wiping dalvik cache properly. how do you know that?

if that were the case all the time, and everyone that used it had constant problems, no one would be using it.

i've only used clockworkmod for my recovery, and have never had an issue.

thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] einsteins:
Got it working...noob errors...lol

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Bradart:
Is there any way we could get an SBC stock kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] DrRyder:
Hey hey, everybody. Having a bit of a problem...

I have someone who is using my rom and this kernel on a HW 0004 phone. He's having problems with his camera. Just the black screen. I don't even remember if this was posted or not and frankly, I'm in a hurry and can't be assed to search for it. Anyone know of a quick fix?
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
The new HW 0004 version has been having problems with the cam with other kernels on it...no fix right now except use the stock kernel...which in this case I believe is htc's #15

Sent from my Warm EVO :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] DrRyder:
Aww ****. Really? Damn. Alright. I'll have to do the switch then. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
Yea I know...I believe devs are waiting on HTC to release the kernel source code so they'll be able to switch the kernels no problem...but until then we wait

Sent from my Warm EVO :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
When HTC releases their kernel source code, please please PLEASE make an SBC HTC #17?
[EVO 4G Android Development] -viperboy-:
Maybe I don't get it, but why do people want a modded HTC kernel when the ones posted on XDA are better? (IMO)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Because no custom kernel has given me better battery life than HTC #17.

See my post here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9556189#post9556189

I'm going to try SBC Net's 4.1.9.1 More Aggressive and hopefully it tops HTC #17, but I doubt it will.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
But until htc releases the source for that kernel it will have no increased FPS, wireless tether, increased multi touch and oc ability.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Wireless Tether works fine. I don't mind the 2 finger multi-touch vs 5 that I get with Net's. I don't OC because the extra heat and battery usage is not worth the marginal speed increase. And I don't play any 3D games that don't already run well bone stock (Raging Thunder 2, Doom). If anything, I play Angry Birds and that's it.

But I just flashed over SBC Net's 4.1.9.1 More Aggressive. It's smooth, but lets see if it outdoes HTC #17. The thing that attracted me about these SBC kernels is that they trickle charge. Worked fine for the AOSP versions when I was on CM 6.1.1 except CM had MASSIVE random battery drain and bugs. So now I'm back on Myn's.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
What are some of the results with the version 4 kernels??
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mfeigley:
I wish I could try HTC #17 again. I didnt give it a chance before, and now I updated my radios (which I have heard prevents the use of HTC #17).
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
If you want, you can downgrade your radios using this method I wrote. It's really easy and safe: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9887536&postcount=16938
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
hmm, Im on the ported Gingerbread build and im charging with a v6 build that im testing for tonight and for the first time since build 129, im getting random -mA's while charging up to 100%. So I'm wondering if the -mA's are because of the roms or something...

edit: Looking further into it, OS monitor says "charging_enabled = 0" it should say "charging_enabled = 1." idk what's going on here, this is interesting...I wonder if this is what's happening to other people.
[EVO 4G Android Development] woofers1803:
Has anyone seen the 132 kernet break the camera app on Fresh 3.4 and 3.5? For some reason I can't make it work properly when running this kernel, but the stock one works fine. Tried TOTAL wipes and no change on either ROM. Loved the battery life, but can't deal w/o a camera!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jhoffy22:
MS,

You'll get it man. You are one the most persistent developers that I have seen on this forum and I really have confidence that you will get this thing figured out and that in time this can be a standard for all kernels to use. You can be sure that a donation will be coming your way once here is a stable and effective build with no quirks.

Good luck.
[EVO 4G Android Development] toneman1984:
If I have Sprint's extended battery ( 2600 instead of standard 1500), what should the mv show in battery monitor widget when the battery is fully charged? how do I know its using the extended amount?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bobatapioca:
what exactly is a kernel?

am I safe to install this if i'm currently running Warm 2.2 Rom?

this won't overwrite it right?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mattykinsx:
Should have no issues running it on that ROM and it will not overwrite anything but your current kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bobatapioca:
thanks :)

so i guess i should make a back up before i do this anyways to be safe
[EVO 4G Android Development] mattykinsx:
Yes nandroid backup is always recommended when doing things of this nature
[EVO 4G Android Development] AyoJake:
im using this version SBC for Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 More Aggressive and it gets like negative 40 but then goes positive 138 is it bad that it gets negative?
[EVO 4G Android Development] thenewguy821:
What hardware version is your phone? It is known that 0004 hardware doesn't work well with custom kernels. I THINK that some of the newer 0003's have the new camera and would also have problems on any non-stock kernels. I could be wrong about the newer 0003's.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lostsoul77:
negative mA on version 5

I'm not sure how to do a screenshot but with the latest 4.1.9.1 SBC kernel I started getting continuous -mA after my phone hit 0mA overnight on the AC charger. Running the following:

Myn RLS4

Hardware 0003 (ATMEL touchscreen)

PRI 1.77_003

NV 1.90

2.6.32.15-netarchy-toastmod-4.1.9.1-cfs (more-havs-v5)

I didnt see this many -mA when running v3 no-havs. Anyone else having problems with v5?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
ms - emailed you my battery history v6 test

off to dentist let me know

later
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
ah ha!, i got the -mA's overnight. im working on it right now. The problem is that on AC, even though its on the charger, charging_enabled = 0. Why its still charging anyways..im not quite sure. Im working on on it though. Charging over USB though does in fact work...now thats kinda odd.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
read it and workin on it. I think I know whats going on here
[EVO 4G Android Development] chillenandy321:
What setcpu settings are you all using on V5?
[EVO 4G Android Development] numus:
Using the 12/22 4.1.9.1 SBC kernel on a Hardware 002.

It doesnt seem to be working.. 5 minutes off the charger it is at 97%. But it may be the rom or a program in the background... havent found a true way to narrow it yet.

Can you get me the battery config files out of the kernel btw so i can take a look at the reporting code.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jpmaniac87:
I'm using the 4.2.2 more agresive and getting negative values... here's while over night, all are while pluged in... any ideas?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Ok, so I was getting nothing but -mA's on this rom and my charger was disabled..now I'm getting nothing but +mA's and my charger is on for both USB and AC. Kept the trickle charging code in so we should be all good. Will update OP with the new v7 4.1.9.1 more aggressive.

Edit: This should mean trickle charging for all roms and setups now without any -mAs
[EVO 4G Android Development] jpmaniac87:
Does that mean no fix fir 4.2.2? I had some killer battery life with iy, just got worried about the -mA
[EVO 4G Android Development] knixx:
This was happening to me with both SBC for Netarchy's 4.2.2 Non-Havs and

SBC for Netarchy's 4.1.9.1 More Aggressive

hmmm?

=/
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I need people to test this one:

http://www.multiupload.com/9B61W63R1J

I got that to work on a rom that was disabling my charging for both USB/AC so it should work for everyone that's ever seen a -mA
[EVO 4G Android Development] jokester902:
What is the best for a ASOP rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Yikes. Went to bed with a 100% charge and the mS at 2. Woke up to 56% and tons of -s. I flashed v5 yesterday evening, charged to full, left it charging an additional hour until the mA went to 2. I wanted to see how the kernel did overnight OFF the charger. Typically I'd be getting about a 5% total drop overnight using htc17, ziggy 12/14, etc.

Not sure what happened or why. I didn't change any of my settings. My awake/sleep times are correct as are my display times. Display time 10 minutes at 2%, Android Sys 4%, Standby time ok and no lose of signal. I was on wifi all night. Spare parts hows time without sleeping 52 minutes, nothing signifigant under cpu usage. My governor is set to on demand, scaling 128-1152.

Thoughts?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
This should fix it: http://www.multiupload.com/9B61W63R1J

I too woke up today with a bunch of -mA's. First time ever, only difference between now and all the other times I was testing the builds was that I switched roms. I was on stock OTA the other times, idk why the rom would have something to do with the charging...but I figured out what was causing the problem and I posted it on the main page. THat link right there is the link to the new v7 and should fix everything for everyone on all roms.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
Ok so I let it charge overnight running v5 and as soon as I took it off the charger I see it drop from 4190 to 4138...now its down to 95% and its at 4063...bad?

Sent from my Warm EVO :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Not necessarily. It depends on what app you're using to check the voltage. Battery Indicator is a liar to me. It will say that off the charger I'm at 4112 but OS monitor will say I'm at 4177. Depends on what you use to look at voltage. And also try this out:

http://www.multiupload.com/9B61W63R1J

v7
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Flashing right now. Thanks for all you r hard work. I bought you a few beers last night ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Posting this again: v7, no more -mAs. I had -mAs before this build on v5-v6, and now they're all gone. Im just gonna try to post this as often as possible until people download it, I'm probably gonna fall asleep soon since I only got 3 hours of sleep and I just want to make sure some people download it now and leave feedback for me to read when I wake up

V7
[EVO 4G Android Development] frenchy714:
Is number 131 finished??? It's under version 1.0 still.....are you going to update it to get the same benefits as version 1.7?? Thanks for your time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] onehitter:
Are you going to post any of these tweaks for the 4.2.2 kernals?

The 4.1.9.1 kernals don't really do well with the rom i am running.
[EVO 4G Android Development] knixx:
You're awesome ms. Not to be too demanding but do you think we can get a non havs version sometime in the future? :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] CheesyNutz:
testing v7 ! just have to say tyvm for all the work !
[EVO 4G Android Development] SilentSummer:
Great Kernel so far! Have been unplugged for 40 minutes now and it still shows 100% :eek:
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I will update the others once I know for a fact that people are no longer getting -mAs on this new build. So all testing would be nice. The reason why I dont update them all together is because that would be time consuming. I literally have a source folder for each individual build, for example: 4.2.2 CFS more-havs has a source folder and so does non-havs and less-havs. And unless I keep up a different terminal for each one, I'd have to navigate from each folder in one terminal and compile the kernel that way. Then I'd have to set up individual AnyKernel folders just for compressing the zImage and .ko files for each different build. It's time consuming >.< so I just want to make sure that 4.1.9.1 is right 100% before I go through that hassle.

And for those that may be wondering about AOSP...check out SavageKernel. It gets the same updates as 4.1.9.1, it should be getting the v7 updates today.
[EVO 4G Android Development] typeadam:
ms, just wondering if you're still working on AOSP kernels too or whether we should just follow the Savage Kernel thread for that?

EDIT: nvm
[EVO 4G Android Development] fr0st420:
V7 compatible with 3.70 base?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
It should be.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
WIth this new build, I added current regulation btw.
[EVO 4G Android Development] chillenandy321:
Hey Ms can you make a SBC for Netarchy's 4.2.2 More Aggressive with the V7 update? Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Admiral2145:
Can we get v7 with 4.2.2 havs more? Or is 4.1.9.1 the only one?
[EVO 4G Android Development] slam11100:
HEY GUYS,

When the evo is on the charger with the Kernel... does the charging light stay red or does it turn green when reached 100%? If it does turn green does it mean that it's not working?

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] flyboy1100:
Off charger for 1 hour, down to 86%,i don't get it, nearly same battery life as htc 17.
[EVO 4G Android Development] soundwavedj:
Yes +1 on this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
MS said he's only updating 4.1.9.1 until he gets a final stable version together and then he will update all of them...he has to update each version individually so it would be needlessly time consuming if he did each one every time...but they will be updated

Sent from my Warm EVO :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] rushco:
Everyone please read last 3 pages or at least the OP posts. It will save us many many useless posts.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thebeast614:
It turns green at 100 like any other kernel would...its just that here when it turns green the charger wont shut off...it keeps charging really slow (trickle charging) to ensure your battery is charge as much as possible

Sent from my Warm EVO :-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
I love you
[EVO 4G Android Development] VisedMonk:
Testing now...
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowery23:
I just want to say thanks for this kernel. I flashed it yesterday and so far today it has been excellent. I took the phone off the charger just before 0600 and at 0945 it is only down to 85%. Previously I would have hit 85% between 0700-0730. I'm running on Fresh 3.5.0.1 with updated radio, wimax, PRI and NV. Thanks again.