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[EVO 4G Android Development] LuvThyMetal:
Yeah i see what you're saying but im using Myns 2.2 rom and i cant update to the newest Software 3.70. 651.1 until he comes out with the new RLS5 i think it is. I'll just keep doing research and see if i can find anything and if not i will wait till he comes out with the newer Myns RoM
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
One more question. For a sense ROM. does 131 or 4.2.2 V7 work better?

also is SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.2.1 (aka 131) 131.zip (2.91 MB) HAVS or no HAVS???

Thanks...

EDIT: I found this 131 for HAVS. 132 for No-HAVS so that answers my 131 question...
[EVO 4G Android Development] subminimal:
Ziggy posted an interesting bit about charging LI Ion batteries ... curious on peoples thoughts

http://www.ziggy471.com/2011/01/02/overcharging-batteries/
[EVO 4G Android Development] apfrost:
I wonder if my 1750mh Lithium-Polymer battery is more stable.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
reading this, and if it is true, woudnt BUMP CHARGING BE BETTER? although I think there is safety in the kernels for trickle
[EVO 4G Android Development] miphonematt:
That is very interesting indeed. I too am running a LiPo (3500mah). I'm curious if my battery is susceptible to the same degradation.

Sounds like I may need to flash a different kernel for the time being until this all get sorted out. I've been telling everyone about this kernel, promoting it like a son of a gun.

Gonna keep my eye on this thread for certain.
[EVO 4G Android Development] wryun:
Screen Tearing

Has anyone else been experiencing screen tearing?

I have the latest CM 6.1.2 with this v8 kernel, I have also noticed it even with the v7 kernel. I also use SetCPU with min: 384 max 998, and screen off profile min 384 max 422.

I have noticed this screen tearing with all kernels except for the one that comes with the rom.

Any tips to solve this would be great.

Thanks for the help. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
im at home, using wall charger, maybe my phone reads the voltage higher than it really is
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Either way...damn. Your wall charger is a grown ass man. It's all good though, if you have a quick drain when you first pick it up then I'll make a kernel specifically for your battery+charger set up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
MS, when you going to throw up a donate link brutha? thanks don't cut it for the work your doing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
still at 100, this kernel kicks @$$
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
Well, I tested it out for 25 minutes, drained 22%.

Something isn't right.. It constantly pulled -300 to -500 volts unplugged. Maybe my rom is using too powerful?

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 08tundra:
thats what im getting and the phone is on the charger thats y its at 100%
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
That's not right..

Have you flashed new kernel non smart ass?

I would just for now. If that doesn't fix it, we can investigate further. I'm going to pm you.

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 08tundra:
which kernel should i install? im running frost 3.4 and if i install a new kernel wouldn't that erase this mod?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
This is charging.. First time it was neg, but look at the volts! God damn near 1000..

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ceg1792:
Yes, this mod is clearly not working for you anyways.

Just go with the recommended kernel. Read my message.

Sent from an unknown rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Well your temperature was pretty high. Higher than it would be if you took it off the charger overnight so that could have something to do with it. Overnight charging should drop your temp down to 83 degrees, your at 96 degrees. And it doesnt matter what kernel you use, when your phone is that hot for a while and you start using it, you will see a massive drain. Thats why its easy to get an awake time of 6 hours a day if you dont use the phone constantly, because it all becomes one huge slippery slope after the temp goes up because of constant use.

Did you flash 131?

ALthough I addressed the other comment i'll address this one too with: I think your phone is actually reaching over my limit and that huge drop is just the charger shutting off to protect itself...but notice how after the drop it was at 4157, thats still pretty good. If your battery voltage is actually that 4.157V, then that means you mustve been well over my limit and be happy that it shut it off because my new limit for 130-131 is 4.222V
[EVO 4G Android Development] 08tundra:
yea i flashed 131 and i still have the same problem i dont know y??? any ideas???
[EVO 4G Android Development] tonwarr.the.incredible:
#130 is absolute perfection for me with the Seidio 3500mAh extended! Unplugged at 12:30p and holding strong at 100% 12 minutes later after heavy use!! Kudos to you for your amazing work!!

First pic is just before fully charged and the second is after unplugged.
[EVO 4G Android Development] davidfretz:
I get an error when I try to flash both 129 and 131. Can't find file system/sbin/12ping. I am running ava v9 with net 4.2.1 cfs more aggressive kernel. Anybody else have this?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Does it sleep when you take it off the charger?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
check out the original post
[EVO 4G Android Development] 08tundra:
yea the screen turns off but the phone stays awake
[EVO 4G Android Development] AntiLazarus:
Yes, using the original 1500 mAh battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
hm, flash another kernel to see if you get the same issue. I only changed the code in the battery driver files so everything else should be normal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Im puzzled...where you using your phone at all while it was on the charger? I just dont see how people are getting the phone past 4.205V. If y'all are using it while its charging, that push it past 4.205V and possibly over my limit which will shut the charger off to prevent damage. Now if you're not using it and its still going over 4.205V, y'all have some powerful ass chargers and that means i need to make a separate kernel for y'all.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NewZJ:
after reading that statement and others just like it I'm thinking v8 might be the way I would go, it doesn't keep a constant voltage on the battery and letting it drain then recharge might be safer, I've had many hours on v7 kernels and others like it with no ill effects so I'm not sure what to believe, on one hand I've got experience flashing and using these kernels with no ill effect our loss of life, on the other I've got the people that design these types of batterys and devices that use them saying it's bad.

I'm undecided for now but ill keep using them limiting the charger time
[EVO 4G Android Development] jiggy79:
Will this kernel work for the Sprint Lover's ROM with the current OTA and having a 3500mah extended battery too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] anaglich:
Would some one please please please add this code to the latest CM7 kernel? I would love you forever. And ever.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
What kernel do I use with MikFroyo 4.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
Sense or ASOP?
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
Sense
[EVO 4G Android Development] norwoodr2001:
I'm currently running the asop version kernel on the cm7...and it works perfectly
[EVO 4G Android Development] fintheman:
Well that sucks

#7 killed my 4G Radio

running on the Evio posted on Dec 22.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
Sense so what is ur suggestion
[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
You might try the 4.2.2 more havs as starting point:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10221093&postcount=3085

You may need to try others till you find which works best on your phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
I downloaded it and tried to flash and it said it was missing a file and I am on ra 2.1.1
[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
Did you try turning off the signature verification?
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
how do i do that

????

Mind you i have the new recovery Amon Ra 2.1.1
[EVO 4G Android Development] get-Apache:
turning off signature verification did it for me: RA 2.1.1

ok if you are running Amon RA's new recovery version 2.1.1, then you need to toggle off the signature verification prior to flashing the kernel SBC #15. Here is what I did:

1) Boot into Recovery

2) Wipe Cache

3) Wipe Dalvik Cache

4) return

5) flash zip from SD Card

6) toggle signature verification

7) then finally flash the kernel.

works for me - now the Kernel Version says root@paris-laptop #2 which I believe is the SBC #15 V7
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
Thank you mine is booting now ...ill report back ...what exactly does this do , just improve battery life, also which one did u do more aggressive wit havs ?>??
[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
Boot into recovery...select flash from SD card...select toggle signature verification. You will see a message at the bottom saying it has been disabled. Go back to main menu and flash
[EVO 4G Android Development] OneStepAhead:
37 hours in right now on a single charge on oem battery. 8% left. #15 SBC is legendary!
[EVO 4G Android Development] CCallahan:
What??...No Angry Birds? :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Can SOMEONE who has been using BUMP CHARGE V8 please post results? I was using 131 a few days ago and the battery life was the best I ever had. BUT now reading that info about batteries and constant voltage, I decided to try the BUMP charge. We will see if its any better.. My Battery was at 4209 this morning when I woke up leaving the phone on the charger over night using BUM CHARGE. Does BUMP charge leave the battery with less voltage the TRICKLE? It appears it does and you could be taking your phone off the charger when it is DISCHARGING and not when it is BUMP CHARGING so you ARE DOWN some voltage..

any insight would be appreciated...
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
wonder how much battery life you miss with bump charger over trickle.. Im testing v8 now so well see..
[EVO 4G Android Development] alexhawj7:
best v7 kernel for Fresh

Any recommendations for a good version of SBC V7 to run with Fresh 3.5?
[EVO 4G Android Development] flipper12:
Now that some of us are a little hesitant to use the trickle charge...

... because of Ziggy's post about the ill effects of trickle charging Li-Ion batteries, any chance on making a v8 bump charge version based on the #15 kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] NHLWil:
I've always had screen tearing/corruption issues with anything other than HTC kernels, so that's a safe place to start.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Since 131 gave me so far the best battery life.. is there a way to change that to BUMP CHARGE and ALSO add in whatever is needed for using the phone while plugged in?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
OK so I am running v8 Bump Charge on SPRINT LOVERS ROM (Sense). I left the phone on the charger all night and at 9:30AM took it off when I woke up. Its now 12:17PM and I am still at 100%. Granted I only checked my email 2 times and other then that let it sit idle. I am running SETCPU ... Main profile is 128/998 SMARTASS and screen off 245/245 POWER SAVE. I also have a charging profile and a low battery profile but they havent kicked in yet.. Although the charging one probably did over night (245/998 ondemand)

We'll see how it goes all day....

Edit: Still going strong at 2:19 pm. At around 97%. Granted I only checked my email, ran a program to clean cache and ran SYSTEM PANEL since I last posted at 12:17. No calls yet...

Maybe BUMP is good but I would still love to hear pro's and Cons.. Maybe I AM the only one using it..
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Have you tested the BUMP CHARGING KERNEL to see how much battery life is reduced VS trickle? I ask because after reading that info about batteries, it looks like it is BAD to leave constant voltage on the battery and BUMP might be the way to go.. SO far more then 2 1/2 hours at 100% with bump. I left the phone on the charger all night when I went to bed and you can see the graph is all over the place up and down...

can you explain what you mean by IT CANT COMPARE TO NETARCHY'S KERNEL? in terms of battery life or speed??
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
Will this kernal work with htc evo unrevoked rooted I'm newbie lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] ISSMER:
Yes...just be sure to use the correct kernel based on whether you are using a Sense or ASOP ROM
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
confused

I am confused and I hope someone can explain this.. I thought, after reading that ZIGGY thing on batteries, that BUMP charging is the way to go since you arent leaving constant voltage on the battery at all times when on the charger. HOWEVER, I read soemthing else and it says BUMP CHARGING wears outthe battery FAST. I also do NOT see many people on here talking about V8 BUMP. I would really like to know from people who have used both BUMP and TRICKLE which on works better for them. I am trying BUMP now, due to the ZIGGY article.

Any input would be great. There has to be someone besides me using BUMP....
[EVO 4G Android Development] thenags:
So is AOSP v7 built off CM's 6.1.1 kernel?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
i believe its built off of Bnice's kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
I'm using sense for now can you point to which one I should use thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
post #2, any thing thats under the sense is green to flash and v7 is the latest, plus you can run the HTC kernel as well
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
Thanks going to try it
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
if I am not mistaken, the HTC kernel has issues with 4G or WIFI or both (I forget)...
[EVO 4G Android Development] stricklerjosh:
No wifi problems here with sbc. #15, haven't tried 4g yet.

mikfroyo evo, with a side of detox !
[EVO 4G Android Development] dthomas03:
Just flashed auto bump v8 kernel for CM 6.1.2. Will post results.

v7 was giving me a lot of random reboots and FC....& I really didn't see an improvement in battery life d/t trickle charging!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Cool keep me informed.. I just made received a 10 minute call and my battery is only at 93% being off the charger since 9:30AM ..

I really want to hear REAL NUMBERS with USE.. EVERYONE on here seems to post their battery life while the phone was in sleep mode... BUT lets see the battery life after usage...

Also if someone could post their comments as to ZIGGY's info on batteries and constant trickle charge VS using bump charge.. would really like to figure this out.. but its 4:33PM .. Off charger at 9:30 and 91% left with one phone call and a bunch of email reading. Usualy I start at 90% with normal charging ...
[EVO 4G Android Development] BAttitude7689:
is there anyway we can build this "SBC modification" into Ziggys kernel??? I am using calk rom evio v1.7.5 and he just released v1.7.6 and he uses Ziggys newest kernel and its optimized best for better life and performace with stabilty so only if we can have the benefits on that amazing undervolted kernel and still use the SBC???

Has anyone done this yet? or would it not work??
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
have you tried the 4g i want a decent kernal but want my wifi and 4g and save some battery life what you recommend
[EVO 4G Android Development] rushco:
It is still in beta.

"If this beta goes good, which it should, then I’ll clean up the code and get it up on github"

That was on December 14. Once he gets it up on github then we can add the SBC mod to his kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BAttitude7689:
okay, that works! now i personally havent tested this current build i have used his kernels in the past at times, but now that calk is actually including it in his build when he release v1.7.6, it must be a very good stable kernel....i just cant get away from the SBC kernels.....currently im using "131"

current stats at the moment are

7hrs 44m 12s since unplugged

and I am at 52% battery!!!

that has been with some pretty heavy texting this morning and a couple phone calls and checking emails
[EVO 4G Android Development] shaun0207:
Mine is down and holding at 2mA. Is this good? I still have not noticed any increase in battery life. I got rid of Task Manager. But as soon as I unplug the cord within 2mins I've dropped to 99% and within 5mins 97%. and the only think i will have done is push the power button to see the screen and the battery level
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
I just grabbed the official sprint 2600 mah battery so off to SBC HTC 15 it is since I don't have to worry about battery anymore.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
Ive been running for about 8 hrs after a full charge with light use and am at 80% battery still ...that's awesome and I can confirm 4G and WiFi work with SBC #15 More aggressive 4.2.2 with Havs
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
Thanks going to try that out now was waiting for your response do you have the set pcu set up to if so can you share what you have set up on the set pcu I would appreciate it thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
not using setcpu as of right now ...But if anyone can comment on the status of a OC program that is good with this leme know ASAP and i will try ...as for my setup ..right now it flyes with that not OC'ed
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
Also this is for anyone who feels like responding ...why does my Cam look so grainy when i am taking pics ..does this kernel mess with it cause a 8mp should look clear and nice
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
That's quite a kernel you have there considering it doesn't exist.

SBC #15 in this thread does not have havs. It is simply the stock #15 with the sbc mod.

Anything with havs is most likely netarchy or any other kernel but htc #15 as provided in this thread is bone stock. It even still has perflock enabled by default.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
I have this lol SBC 4.2.2 More Havs #15 V7
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
**** I need to get some sleep.

I was talking about HTC #15...you said SBC # 15. My mistake.
[EVO 4G Android Development] strauss0829:
it's cool lol ...do u any info on the camera problem i posted ???
[EVO 4G Android Development] lovethyEVO:
Wish I did. I don't use my camera much so can't say anything about it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kidrobot978:
Camera for me pretty much the same clear to me
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrcrptguy:
This might have been asked already, Is there any chance on this mod on Baked Kernel #6? That would be the ultimate Kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gmarkiek:
Ok I'm on sbc 4. 2. 2 more havs kernel it works great with the exception that I cannot you my Bluetooth for voice only for media on my evo. Is anybody having this issue or is it just me?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
IM not having that issue but last night I flashed the V8 and today I did a HOT RESTART of the phone and it erased my 2 email accounts.. not everything as it was still listed in accounts but when you clicked on MAIL they were gone. Easy to put back.. I just dont see how a kernel could do this..
[EVO 4G Android Development] karikian:
AMAZING

I don't ever say bad words, but holy SHYT... the battery life is like I got a brand new phone!!!

Thank you! I want to donate please!

Keep up the great work! Unbelievable!!!!:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
I still want to hear from people who use BUMP VS people who use TRICKLE. This way we can get some different results. I think I am sticking with BUMP for now due to that ZIGGY article...
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeC84:
I get a error flashing 131with latest amon ra recovery. Missing file system/xbin/12ping
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
Make sure you disable signature verification before flashing it.

Sent via my EVO from the backseat of your Momma's SUV.
[EVO 4G Android Development] njfoses:
Im assuming your using the newly updated amon recovery. If you are you need to turn off signature verification check while in recovery before trying to flash. You will then be able to flash the kernal. The next time you enter recovery to flash something signature verification will be enabled again so you might have to disable again as a lot of dev's dont sign their zips.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gmarkiek:
Which kernel are you using?
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
sorry to sound like a broken record BUT we all talk on here about flashing the latest this and that and how much battery life we have with the phone on standby. BUT what about real world use.. and what about TRICKLE vs BUMP? doesnt anyone use anything but TRICKLE?

really no discussion on the important things with this kernel battery fix.. just "can you do this and that with kernel #" ...

sorry.. I hate looking for real info and not finding it...
[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
Did this whole trickle charging concept just come about, or was it in practice/use say 6 months ago. If it was, then by now there should be some useful results data on how successful or unsuccessful it is.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dahauss:
Im not looking for data on TRICKLE CHARGING in GENERAL. Im looking for info based on the kernels, and the EVO and BUMP VS TRICKLE CHARGE. thats the data I want... There was no trickle or bump charge before this kernel fix .. the only BUMP CHARGE was something about charging with the phone powered off etc... not part of a kernel...

SURE I can google TRICKLE CHARGE and see all kinds of results but thats not what I want.. nor prob. what anyone else wants..
[EVO 4G Android Development] TREmp77:
quick question

First time I flashed this kernel...

What should the name of the kernel be in menu/settings/about phone/software info/kernel version?
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Seeing as how you're not getting any responses on your questions about the bump charging version of these kernels, id assume that there might be a handful of people, if any, that actually use it. If someone had some relevant information, im sure they would have no issue in sharing with you.

When the bump charging version came out, a few users tried it (along with ms). Shortly after that v7 came out and most people switched over. Since then these mods have become quite popular and this thread is filled with "does this work with this " or "whats the best sense version " etc.

I really hope you end up finding someone who can give you the information you're looking for, but id say that the best thing you can realistically do is just try it for yourself and make a good comparison. Then come back here with your findings to inform the other users on what works best for what application.

Im sorry there isn't more people who use the bump charging version...it might actually be the safer route...although there's no real evidence pointing either way.

Good luck!

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[EVO 4G Android Development] gpz1100:
Part of the debate is how healthy this process is to the battery, and what long term effects may be.

Isn't the standard charging scheme a bump method? Charge to 100%, if left on charger, let battery drop to 90%, then charge back up [to 100%). If still on charger, cycle repeats..
[EVO 4G Android Development] casper97ta:
Personally, Im sticking with the trickle charge. I get fantastic battery life out of the #131 kernel and im not changing. Ive tried every other kernel MS has posted and this one works the best for me. If i have to buy a new battery for $10 in a year i dont care. I would rather be able to use my phone all day and not have to worry about charging half way through the day. Also, all other old school nokia and motorola lith. batteries were always trickled charged and never had any problems. Not sure what the difference would be now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rain91:
QFT