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[Vibrant Android Development] egzthunder1:
Sorry, I missed it. I think the TownHall Discussions is entering into high gear :)

That is a very valid point. The main reason why we don't allow certain unaffiliated sites to cross link is because they do it for commercial gain as we don't allow devs to charge for their work.

As far as having people's credit cards on files... with over 3MM members, it could be a disaster if someone hacked into XDA and found this information.
[Vibrant Android Development] TGA_Gunnman:
just have people fill out a dev application form to become a dev.
[Vibrant Android Development] dglowen23:
Maybe.. just a thought from the top of my head.. maybe we can limit users amount of posts a day. Idk if it is even possible but it might help
[Vibrant Android Development] swehes:
I for one have tried to update the Wiki but I'm far from having the knowledge that is needed to keep it up to date. Also if the devs could just add their ROM or update the information for the kernels, ROMs etc on the WIKI we can have a better complete Wiki for noobs to go to. I think that the Vibrant Bible we have is a very nice piece of work and is a good complement to the Wiki. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] TomorrowSpace:
Too much work. Mods need less work if we want more done.
[Vibrant Android Development] NotATreoFan:
Charging for access to XDA is not really an option since we are a business that depends on free and open access to information. As Egz has said before, the major issues we hope to solve with this Town Hall only happens in certain areas of XDA. Once we have a consensus of user opinion, and the Moderator staff meets with the Admins, we will have a new set of uniform guidelines which we will operate under when dealing with problem members.
[Vibrant Android Development] egzthunder1:
Again, it is an idea that is being considered. One alternative that I had thought about would be to do it by metrics (either post count, thanks meter, length of membership, or a combination of all) to block people from opening threads (not browsing, not posting in threads, but opening new threads) in dev sections. If someone came with a true development (rom, kernel, theme, fix, etc), then it would probably be easy to review as the number of people with true developments are not that many...
[Vibrant Android Development] krook6023:
That can only be accomplished when the community helps and reports posts that need removal. I have a profound sense of respect for our moderation team and admin…unless you have done it one would have no idea how much work it takes...the bottom line is even if we had 1000 mods we would still need responsible members to alert us of issues...XDA is too big...we need your help.
[Vibrant Android Development] INeFFeCTiVE:
I think that should be done only if you are caught flaming... I am trying to become more active on the forums and especially in the Q & A section, if i have a limited amount of post then i am more likely not to help, and then save my post for when i have questions.
[Vibrant Android Development] oka1:
Agree...... but

If the question is related to a dev rom or some mod, when the person saks the question in the Q & A no one answers the question (normal 300 in dev forum and 40 in Q&A) they are going to just gravitate where there are people. And, very often the question needs someone like the dev to answer.......so they post wrongly. But if all of us do not pay attention to the Q & A section retraining the masses is impossible.
[Vibrant Android Development] jmcghee1973:
+1 to that. You would need a verification process also so that every Joe Blow isn't applying for DEV status.

I haven't been here long but I know who the main DEV are for the Vibrant.
[Vibrant Android Development] pulser_g2:
And therein lies the problem.

I know technical ways to achieve this, from the ability to request membership by "applying", or with a "form", and then the requests would arrive at us :D

From there, we obviously couldn't go apple-esque as someone above said, but it's easy to check someone's posts and be sure they are sufficiently knowledgeable to post a ROM. If someone whose only past post was "URGENT HELP ME PLEASE I NEED HELP TO UNBRICK THIS PHONE", asking "please help kthxbai", then there would be questions asked.

A quick check to see the account isn't a duplicate account of a banned user would probably be about it. It's not the job of XDA to say who can and can't do things, but if something was done, it would likely (IMHO) be something like described as above.
[Vibrant Android Development] TomorrowSpace:
Actually, off topic back to what is being said up there. Why don't we have a $3 / $5 donation day each month? I'm in sales, you guys can disagree if you want. People like to be told what to do, it's so less messy. I'm not rich, but I use this forum alot. I would donate if asked once or twice a month. Some months I could do $3 some I could do $5. I'm sure out of 3M members, lots are like me. Gosh, where could that kind of money take my favorite place?
[Vibrant Android Development] oka1:
lol exactly..............................
[Vibrant Android Development] krook6023:
The great thing about XDA is that a (noob) user can learn, and become a great developer....I don't like the idea of adding DEV to a users title b/c it would throttle innovation...JM2C
[Vibrant Android Development] pulser_g2:
If posting in development was physically prevented, then they would have no choice but to post there, and await a reply.

In the fora I use, any thread in Q&A will get a response within 24 hours, but it may be one telling the user to post more info.

Eg. "How can I root my phone" needs some common sense info like stock ROM versions and bootloader versions, confirmation it's the right device, and if they want to flash a custom ROM or not...

Developers do help out in Q&A etc, but more often that not it's the regular posters that are not devs that I see helping out :)

Devs do help, but speaking as a dev, there is a limit to how many basic questions I can handle per day. After that, I just switch off and ignore them. It tends to be about 1 to 2 per day, if we're talking full-blown "Write me a guide specifically for my circumstances, but I don't want to use a standard guide. Personalise it", and perhaps upto 10 or so if we're talking normal simple "does this happen if I do that?" ones that are fast answers :)
[Vibrant Android Development] swehes:
Not to mention the legality of having credit cards on file and all the laws that it contains.

But I agree. The things we see on the forum is a disrespect for the individual that are showing in the rest of the USA. It also doesn't help that there is no face value so to speak. Most of us are strangers to each other and the mentality "if I don't see you I don't care if I hurt you" seems to be flowing here as much as everywhere.

We all need to work on the feeling of being a community where we work together rather than against eachother.

I like the idea that "if you don't have anything good to say, don't say it at all". Use report to mod to help noobs (including myself) to post in the right place. If there is a question you think is important for everyone, please send the thread off to our Vibrant Bible keeper, and if you know how, enter it into the Wiki so that we can build up a great resource for everyone.

Let's work together as a team. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] TomorrowSpace:
I don't know, there's something to be said about brains making a person famous vs their dollars. I agree with your point, but I wish we could recognize the more experienced Devs somehow.
[Vibrant Android Development] TGA_Gunnman:
If you want to clean up the DEV area then an application to become a dev member makes since. They would have a waiting period to get the dev member status. Like a week for example.

This would automatically clean up the dev areas a lot. New users could not post there right after signing up and would be more likely to observe the rules when trying to post and getting back a post denied message with the rules attached to that message with a link to the development application. Alot of regular users will not want to apply for dev status.

Just a thought.
[Vibrant Android Development] egzthunder1:
Here is the thing... we do not want to charge people for anything. If they wish to donate, it will out of their own free will. Forcing people to Donate will have very nasty side effects. For instance, a few pages back someone had mentioned a $50 donation for the Sense port for SGS, then the dev efforts go discontinued, and all that was left was a bitter taste in someone's mouth. That person was expecting something out of the Donation....

If you force donations out of people, they will expect things and when they don't get them... that will make the current situation of the Vibrant fora look like a field day in Paradise.
[Vibrant Android Development] krook6023:
And that is what XDA is all about...I feel we may be losing this...but we need to help each other find our way back there.
[Vibrant Android Development] oka1:
Agree ,but I have seen question posts go unanswered enough times that causes people to have less faith in getting answers in reasonable time frames ergo, they post in the wrong section and take the heat, or just do not care ... just an observation
[Vibrant Android Development] TomorrowSpace:
I kind of meant it as a voluntary thing. Put up a casual ad, very low pressure. Something like Hey guys, if you can afford to pitch in please do. It's more of the reminder than anything else. I like the specified date thing because it's orderly, like a good deed at specified time with potentially millions of other people. It's the flash mob mentality I guess.
[Vibrant Android Development] egzthunder1:
I know what you are talking about, but the truth of the matter is that this has been the case forever. Not 100% of the questions will be answered unfortunately and that is because the people answering these do it out of the goodness of their hearts... their willingness to help around. Demanding answers does not go well in here...
[Vibrant Android Development] Fedburin:
I completely agree. The search function for XDA is somewhat limited as well. GPS is a big issue for the Vibrant, as previously stated, yet try to do a search for GPS in one the forums and you are seriously limited. I really like the idea of a review section. Oftentimes a rom will be released as being bug free yet a subsequent update will list the many bug fixes performed. I think a review section might give a clear idea of what possible shortcomings/workarounds might exists for a current rom.
[Vibrant Android Development] icandy75:
You took the words right out of my mouth. I can't count how many users with very limited post have blown me away by helping someone with senior status figure out their issues. Maybe there should be a quota on the number of post per day in each topic by the same user. Seems like that may slow some trolls and those with real problems can PM each other for help.
[Vibrant Android Development] swehes:
I agree on a review section. I tried starting one in General, but it is a hard thing to just have one thread for reviews on all ROMs. It would be nice with a Sub Forum for reviews. Then we can create reviews for ROMs, Kernels, Modems etc. People can then add their comments and ask questions to people who has actually tried the ROM and things could be very clean. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] oka1:
Totally agree, just trying to keep some of the systemic problems at the forefront so maybe we can find a more equitable solution. A lot of people just do not/can't read or understand what they are reading....... to me, that is a big part of the problem
[Vibrant Android Development] wacky.banana:
I assume some of you are aware you can search XDA using google? Just a heads-up as another way of trying to find what you are looking for on a massive site.

WB
[Vibrant Android Development] TGA_Gunnman:
Anyone can PM each other. when a novice wants to help a Sr. he can always PM them.
[Vibrant Android Development] TomorrowSpace:
Wouldn't be cool if someone did a weekly eZine of the latest ROMS and such?
[Vibrant Android Development] icandy75:
I'm aware and I've always told people to PM me to keep clutter down. My point being there is always one person that ask the same question 20x's in a thread and trolls will post more than that. Why no limit the number of post per day? Ever notice the Senior Members with 2000 post and have only been here 2 weeks?
[Vibrant Android Development] pulser_g2:
If questions were all put in the correct place, then people wouldn't be forced to read them, and would be more likely to pop in when they felt like it and help with one or two each time...

But searching is the key, as I am yet to see a question be asked in the areas I use that hasn't been answered before at least 3 times.

Heck, I could go so far as to say the same 20 questions get asked over again. An FAQ obviously helps, but this is ideal for the wiki :)

If a question goes unanswered, then there may be good reason (not enough info etc), and tbh it's better it's empty than full of flaming... But it may well be that people need advice in asking questions, or it may well be that XDA is being used in replacement for their carrier or Samsung's customer support.

The latter 2 are not really what XDA is about, but it's tolerated by most users if the question is asked correctly. As kyphur once said, 'I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.' Carriers offer support for phone issues, XDA offers support for users of custom ROMs, people trying to root and get free of arbitrary device restrictions, and those wanting to get the best out their phone that they can, without being made to spend a penny beyond the outlay of the device.
[Vibrant Android Development] egzthunder1:
That is something that we have done a couple of times for the Portal. The issue is that most of my writers don't have every device to test the roms, and writing reviews of roms without testing them is kinda hard...
[Vibrant Android Development] pulser_g2:
That's not always the best way to do things, as I know that many devs don't "do" questions by PM.

I see it in the same way. If someone PMs me, I will request they post the question in the appropriate manner, with all the info needed, and send me a link to it. That way, someone else can come along in future and see the question and answer, if they use search.
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
I don't know what has happened to xDa ever since the Vibrant came to town.

A giant influx of n00bs who want hand-holding etc.

it's got to stop.

I have nothing against new people, but It is annoying to answer questions that have been aswered in the OP.

we were all new at one point.

Some people are lazy and only ask questions and others, like myself, read a lot before making modifications.

It's common sense, at least to me, to gather up as much information before potentially damaging a $500 device.

If XDA becomes more n00b friendliy, it will be it's downfall.

Most of the activities done here on XDA will either void your warranty or brick your device if done wrong.

I've been a reader of XDA for a couple of years.

I joined especifically to ask a question that had not been aswered at the time.

Look at the thread, and the responses I got which all proved to be false.

Those people who posted do not have the right XDA attitude(ie pushing the hardware/software to the limits).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=697922

the HD2 and Vibrant are a n00b fest. UGH

my next phone is going to be one that is not sold on carriers..

I could go on and on about people's attitudes.

The lazy people that can't search.

The people who reply to questions without reading it.

The people who read things in a post that were never there(flame-starters).

etc etc.

bacon cookies
[Vibrant Android Development] TomorrowSpace:
The writers have to come from the individual forums. People who have the phone should be writing the reviews. It would probably be pretty easy to find 10-20 writers per forum considering that 15 of them aren't going to do anything but act like their going to write something. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] oka1:
Do not know how this site software is configured, but to help the Devs is there a way to allow someone to tag posts that have pertinent or bug related issues, so someone (like me who would volunteer) to go through these posts and compile the bugs and solutions and sticky them in the OP. That way, it would reduce the redundant posting of "how do get?..../whereis... etc. Is this possible ? I understand it would have to allow someone to have "Mini mod rights to tag" but this would be very helpful
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
oh and the marketplace needs to require everyone to have a http://www.heatware.com account to be able to sell things/trade.
[Touch HD General] silver80:
Hi I installed on my touch hd (in my meroy card not in the phone) the new software Android 2.2 and it was ok, but when I restart my phone it was start with windows mobile 6.5 why??????

How can I install android 2.2 in my touch hd and I can restar everytime I want without lose all the things about android???

The problem for me is caused because I have installed android in the memory card while the software must be install in the phone is it correct that I think???

Bye Matteo
[Touch HD General] sekhon18:
hey

android doesn't install in phone memory , it gets emulated from memory card via haret./

use GenY-DualBOOT-v1.0.6.0-CAB u can find it on xda-developers. This app will let u decide what os u wanna boot , but still windows loads at background.

but the way u wanted android to boot first this app is great:P
[Touch HD General] Kaherdin:
the link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=623792
[Galaxy Tab Accessories] n-j-f:
I was thinking of getting the OEM dock from the US but I am pleased to see that Brodit are now producing a passive holder for the Tab. It is now on the DSL website for pre-order in the UK. They are hoping to have them before the end of the year but no certainty. Seems to be only available in the passive form but that's what I want. Search for item 511209 on either the Brodit website or the DSL website.
[Galaxy Tab Accessories] Rozenthal:
I've ordered a VERY similar mount on ebay, look it up!
[Galaxy Tab Accessories] Pandor:
Looking for the active one myself!

click and go, nothing beats that, no additional fuzz with cables....
[Galaxy Tab Accessories] LuckOne79:
Thanks for shareing info !!!

30 bucks is n cheap. But anyway ... have to buy it
[Galaxy Tab Accessories] gidi:
Link?

Can you please post a link?

Thanx
[Galaxy Tab Accessories] darrenjdoc:
If you are in the UK you can buy the passive holder for £26.50 delivered from -

http://www.holdersandmounts.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-tab-brodit-holders-and-mounts/

Getting my 3rd Tab on Monday and really wanting one of these. Anybody use this company before ?
[Galaxy Tab Accessories] d00mz:
In the US, you can get that clip sold by Proclip USA.

http://www.proclipusa.com/brodit-device-holder/samsung-galaxy-tab/holder-with-tilt-swivel-511209-18391.aspx
[Galaxy Tab Accessories] d00mz:
New mount coming from RAM

http://www.ram-mount.com/NewProducts/ramadaptacradle/tabid/3616/Default.aspx

Appears to be coming on Feb 11, 2011. This is probably the one I'll be getting.

Multiple pictures and details at the link. If you "add to cart" the price shows $28.47. Unknown if that will be the actual retail price or not.
[Galaxy Tab Accessories] agentdr8:
That RAM mount looks nice, and with the customizable cups, looks like it can hold my Tab while in the folio case. That price though is just to hold the Tab; you still need one of the mounting options which vary in price (none of which I would consider "cheap"). Maybe retail pricing will be much less..
[Galaxy Tab Accessories] d00mz:
I agree, some of the RAM mounting accessories you need to "make" a complete solution can be pricey. The good thing for my case, is that I'm already using a RAM solution for my Nexus One. Interchangeability rocks!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] varun_bv:
Hi, I am trying to cook a ROM for myself using the R3A base and 21057 SYS using osKitchen. The SYS I got from one of the threads here (the one with all the dsm's edited to 21057) and some missing components I took from joojoobee666.ppckitchen.org (which seemed to have all the stuff in module form, even the one which usually are dumped as files and had dsm's reffering to builds like 21041 and 21056) I cooked with this sys and a stripped down EXTPKG and without much modifications.

Using the above setup, I cooked a ROM some weeks back and it seemed fine. Now I did it again, but I had to download the SYS again and dump the ROM and extract the kitchen and all that as my hard disk crashed. This time I also enabled LZX compression and chose to completely remove ULDR partition completely. But when I flashed ROM and Installed every thing, most of the .net applications are causing graphic corruption like the screen is jumping all over the place and screen elements are being drawn whereever it feels like. After I uninstalled .NET, things calmed down.

Is this a problem with the combination of LZX and ULDR removal with a 6.1 build, or is this a problem with one of my downloads or the stock ROM dumping process?

Thanks in advance for any help any one can offer... Anything will be helpful...

PS: On a side note, which 21057 SYS build is better (or, more reliable) among the two sources mentioned above?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Volknochi:
So, I've searched for a bit, on here and Google, but not having much luck. My phone has always been good at connecting to WiFi hotspots. However, I am currently visiting a house that has a Wireless N router and using WPA2 security, and it won't connect.

Is it true that these phones have issues connecting to that or is there a fix?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ASimmons:
Well the hero only has b/g wireless capabilities, change the wireles router to also brodcast in g mode, since n will not work.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Volknochi:
Here is the odd thing. I mentioned about it to the person who setup the wireless network, and he said that the router is broadcasting in B, G, and N. My phone detects it, but when it attemps to connect to it, it says "Disconnected". Am I doing something wrong or is there something missing in my phone?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dumbwolf:
My phone connects just fine to my N router. There might be setting restrictions that need to be changed on the router via the administrative computer
[Captivate General] Evilspawn:
Hey forum,

Well its official...i work for at&t and woke up to an email in my outlook that samsung is waiting for the final approval before the end of the month!! It seems the release date has been changing weekly. I originally had asked the head honcho samsung telecommunications rep (whose name I will leave un said) on saturday and didn't expect such a quick response.

Well there you have it forum its on the way!! and the 2.3 rumor is false.

As I'm not suppose to leak this proprietary information....i can't help myself :)

Coming soon to a captivate near you!
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
Is it April all ready? :rolleyes:

Sent from a phone somewhere in the universe
[Captivate General] Mac11700:
I hope you don't mind and don't take offense to this ...but...#1 I'm not holding my breath......and really don't care to load any official release that is full of bloat ware and will most likely cause issues when downloading... #2...Have heard this un-official report of it coming soon so many times...I really won't believe till I see it...I am after all from Missouri ya know..;)

Mac
[Captivate General] xiaoali:
Man, you got me all riled up and ready to update for nothin'. End of the month rumors have been floating around, thanks for the confirmation though.
[Captivate General] fatbas202:
Hey Mac, I doubt that many people know that Missouri is the "Show Me" state.

And no offense to EvilSpawn, in fact I appreciate that he is willing to share his experience and knowledge with us, but as a fellow Missourian, I'll have to see it to believe it.