yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] Isira:
Sounds like you've never downloaded a GPS app or system tools such as Tasker. You expect me to fully evaluate these types of apps in 15 minutes? You definitely need 24 hours for the GPS app simply because first you have to download the maps to your phone which can easily be over 1GB (1.5GB for Navigon) before you can even take the app out for a test drive.

Expect piracy and credit card chargebacks to rise.
[Epic 4G General] decalex:
I rarely return an app unless it really doesn't work. But due dilligence is getting easier on the market, and hopefully everyone checks the comments before making a purchase, or even updating. So, I'm fine with it. though, i wonder if this decision stems from the current android fragmentation, and incompatibilities resulting... And lots of ppl not reading the instructions. ..like every time u read a 1 star comment for a widget that says, "doesn't open!"

Sent from the future.
[Epic 4G General] supercat1:
It would be nice if the window for returns was a scaling window. As in, the more expensive the app and/or bigger the download the more time the purchaser has to get a refund. Letting the developers chose would produce a system with 99% of apps with no (or at least the smallest allowable) return window. I wish they would allow paypal transactions before changing the return window.
[Epic 4G General] Magic Oreo:
15 mins is not enough time at all, should be an hour i think.
[Epic 4G General] warlar12:
Could it possibly be done to implement a timer along with the refund time like you said shiz. Once the timer is complete then you could remove the files from the device
[Epic 4G General] riceknight:
Totally agree with this. Some programs require a lot more time to test than others. A good example being Navigation. Leave it to the devs.
[Epic 4G General] boktai1000:
I haven't, nor have I personally seen for them (yet), but I think you can evaluate any well known application via other means. Just as with any other software, using the Internet as your resource, I'm sure you can come to a conclusion without even using the Application if it's something you'd be interested in.

Maybe it comes from the fact that I used to own an iPod Touch, where the App Store market is pretty much as soon as you buy it that's it, it's yours for good. I'm sure they'd make exceptions in some cases, as I'm sure would be the case in this situation, and I think we almost have it too good, yet people are still complaining. I'm not saying they don't have a right to complain, I just think it is being blown way out of proportion.

I know you can't entirely compare it to this, but I think of it this way. If you went to an electronics store, let's say Best Buy, and purchased a game (or any software for that matter) and tried it for 15 minutes then decided you didn't like it, you would get no refund for it at all. In fact the only thing you could do, is get it exchanged if the product itself was defective. That's not the point here though, I think of it as we are purchasing software, and we are lucky enough that we even have a refund option like this available, especially with how simple and easy it to quickly to backup the application and pirate software, yet people still seem to have issues with it.

You do make a very good point with your example though, and I in no way think you are wrong by it, I think for the majority of the Market as a whole, this shouldn't make too much of a difference. I know that there are always special cases to be made, but I don't think Google can cater to every single audience, instead try to cater to the majority and provide cool things for everything. I don't think they always make the right decision on some things, but in this case I simply see little to nothing wrong with it and welcome the changes with open arms.

Again this is just my opinion though, and I would just like to provide my $0.02 on the "issue" in question, since this is a debate thread after all. I am open to agreeing that it isn't a good idea, but so far I haven't seen anyone press a convincing enough case that it might become an issue enough to actually do more bad than good.

tl;dr Still think they made a good decision.

Thanks all.

Edit: Sorry for the wall of text, didn't realize how much I had typed until I posted. Didn't mean to get carried away or ramble on with some issues.
[Droid X General] quinnteq:
Hello,

Yesterday I rooted my new droid x. I used titanium backup to backup, then remove some of the apps that I didn't need. However, then I received the ota update, and it fails to install. Im assuming it is because I have removed the city id, amazon mp3 store, and backup assistant. I try to restore, but I find I cannot restore them jacques they are non market apps. Where can I find them, then install them?
[Droid X General] Erickomen27:
Theres An .sbf I Used To Get The Update Easily

Just Make Sure You Back Up Everything

(.sbf Is Used By RSD Lite Just In Case You Didn't Know)
[Droid X General] quinnteq:
hmm...

Ok, well, im not all that familiar with what your talking about...

I soppose I kinda did the opposite when it comes to removing integral apps on the phone, but from what im reading, im mostly hosed aren't I?

How do i find this .sbf and how would i use this RSD to restore?

I apologize in advance for being such a noob.
[Droid X General] Sleuth255:
Time to start learning about your Droid X. It's all here, in this forum and in the development forum. Check out the Wiki first. There's a link to it on the first post of the android development forum.

Your problem is easily solved btw.
[Droid X General] indypacer:
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...oll-your-320-dx-back-2-3-151-now-you-can.html

Download the backup there, boot into CWM and restore from that image. You'll get all the crapware back and will be able to OTA. Alternatively you can go to 928droid.com and download the clean DX image.
[Droid X General] Acid'sMark:
I called Verizon about not being able to update with the OTA and they are sending me a new phone lol!
[Droid X General] quinnteq:
I did a little research and found that i have the 30.04 boot loader. My attempts at locating what i guess is referred to as a "system only SBF" have been futile. Is there somewhere i can find this? what is the name of the file i need, i know links cannot be posted.

I attempted at restoring the apks to the phone via adb (applied proper permissions etc). I got the apks back, and the apps running properly (backupassistantclient.apk ... etc) however, to no avail it still will not update.
[Droid X General] Sleuth255:
hmmm 30.04. TMK only the leaked 2.3.320 SBF and the official OTA use that bootloader. Are you sure the update didn't work? Maybe your brand new phone already has the update? Settings->about phone->Android version should tell you. 2.2.1 = the OTA.
[Droid X General] silversonic1:
Actually, I've had that bootloader on 2 separate X's; one I bricked on a system only leak of .320 and one I ended up using the leaks to get to .340(wouldn't OTA, possibly because I forgot to fix permissions). I know because at one point I SBFed the phone from .151 to .15 and I saw the bootloader version.
[Droid X General] davisbs999:
Sleuth is correct--there is a full (as opposed to "system only") 2.3.32 SBF that works with 30.04. As has been previously suggested, all of the info on finding this file and installing it are contained in the wiki (which is located on the xda droid x dev page). It really isn't a big deal to resolve your issue. Learning to unbrick your phone with RSD will be extremely useful to you in the future, as will the time you spent screwing around with ADB.

I give you props for trying to resolve your issue yourself, rather than crying to Verizon the first time you ran into trouble
[Droid X General] quinnteq:
ok, so i got it to SBF finally! it worked. now i have 2.2.1. But i no longer have root access, gaaha! what gives! anyway... any good tip to restore root access?

I am glad i know how to do the SBF processes, im not so leery about installing custom roms on my DX anymore... which is my end goal now that i can do the SBF for this boot loader.

However, how to do i get root access again?
[Droid X General] hullie10:
Reroot your phone however you did the first time.... I used z4root, took some time to get it work... but eventually got it to work
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbbb:
So I flashed Cyanogen Mod beta 3 and for some reason it wiped my apps??? I can't find them wiht TB or anything help!!! I want my apps back!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian_v3ntura:
cm6 beta does wipe the internal storage. nothing can be done. i always make a copy of my titanium to my external in case something like this happens
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbbb:
Actually for some reason CM changed my internal Sd storage to external and internal to external :confused: But i checked and I still have everything that was on my sd card (the one with like 13 gb of memory)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sizzlers:
Hi guys have problem.Just downloaded app from Applanet that change the default battery look and iv download it name of app was roughly (SGS Battery) dont remember rest of it.I have rooted 2.2 Froyo and after selected mode Phone booted and just left on black screen nothink else its vibrating second after second and see some sort of cursor and thats it.Tryed remove batt same think happen.So pls wat to do?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dan@msx:
try re-flashing the PDA file in ODIN
[Galaxy S I9000 General] danibyte27:
Hi,

I have the same problem.. After installing that software (sgs battery mod) the phone, after reboot, has a black screen and vibrates.. The 3 buttons are blocked.. May I try something or have I to take it to assistance (sorry for my english..)?

Many thanks for your help!!

Daniela
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cantIntoCode:
Argh, pressed thanks instead of quote :mad:

PIRACY IS NOT TOLERATED.

Please stay clear of Applanet. The developer of SGS Battery will not be too happy if he see's this thread as you are pirating his good work.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ajjter:
Reflash stock rom and have all options ticked in odin use 512 pit, please pay for apps to support the developer ..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sizzlers:
ye but can anyone post this ODIn flash think i cant find it.I could really use some help on flashin this cause its kinda new to me with this rom/reflash thinks.Post me video or any post here pls .
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ajjter:
Go to samfirmware.com register and download odin and fw from there and,they have a guide too
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roly17:
Today I went through the font thread and started downloading fonts like a madman. I cant tell you how many I downloaded, but I wanted to find the perfect one.

I've been downloading to a folder in the internal sd card about 10 at a time and everything was working fine, except that I could not delete the ones that I didnt like. Well thats not true I did delete them from the sd card using the computer, but they were still there when I went to try a different new font.

Now I cant even get into my display settings to change fonts. It keeps giving me a forceclose,Ive tried rebooting but nothing.

I tried searching but couldnt find anything. Is there another way to remove unwanted fonts that Ive downloaded? Is there something that I can try to get back into my display settings?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] neilaur:
Hi, this is the new market :

v2.2.6:

• Refund window changing to 15 minutes

• New carousel with featured apps on main page

• Widgets and Live Wallpapers categories added

• Related content added to app page

• Single page app viewing, all info in one place

• Max size for apk files increased from 25 MB to 50 MB

APK : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XLORG3XI

AND FOR ROM Cyanogen 6 : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2VL795I0 (flash recovery)

UPDATE 12/17 :

Support for devices running 2.1 (no different then 2.2.6)

APK Market 2.2.7 : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K2J0JQL7

UPDATE 01/16

(infos)

APK Market 2.2.11 : here

Custom ROM : here
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] android167:
Great, thanks! ive been trying to install it with root explorer but no luck... Now i can just flash it! :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] krispijn_s:
Thanks man.. works like a charm :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Calico5:
apparantly it only works for Stock 2.2 devices... it works on ur Hero without any problems? :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] generalExpert:
No go yet on the EVO stock 2.2

sent from my bad-ass EVO!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] krispijn_s:
Yup. Running CM6.1 stable on my hero and "installed" it by pushing the apk as "Vending.apk" to /system/app

Just updated a couple of apps using the new market, so I'd say it works :) (Carrousel thingy is a nice touch)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Calico5:
Thanks for the info! By "push" do you just mean replace? Can i do with root exporer? if so.. what permissions would i need to set. :confused: im quite n00b to all this :o
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] krispijn_s:
By push I meant through the adb ("adb push Vending.apk /system/app"), but I suppose you can replace it with Root Explorer as well since you are essentially doing the same thing.

I'm not really sure, but I think you need to mount your system partition to R/W instead of R/O.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Calico5:
OK cool, i dont have ADB set up... will look into it 2moro. Im half asleep right now.. i'll only mess things up :p hehe

Thanks
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Irvysan:
Working on my stock device, cheers. If I knew how to take a screenie I would! (just got it today)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] vido.ardes:
Works great, thanks!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] dn*:
Will this eventually be pushed by Google to my CM6.1 Hero, or will the only way of getting it by installing it manually?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] punkmonkey1984:
always seems to FC on my apps :S
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] leadfoot9281:
nice, works well on desire cdma with cm6.1 RC2 as well.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Deleted member 2758866:
Running smooth on my cognition 2.3b7 Captivate!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] krispijn_s:
It will be pushed by Google, probably in the coming weeks according to their blog.

We're just impatient ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] vijaysapkota:
It's a cool thing to know
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] invinciblervd:
It got installed fine and worked for a while before i installed something. The moment install finished, market started FC ing and couldn't get it working since then ....had to go back to previous version.....anyone else observed this?

I'm on FV 1.7.2
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] vatvedt:
Same issue on Floyo 1.2.0 on my Hero.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] cokbok:
and the same here with elelinux's FROYO_2.2.1_RC1_update1_Android_Stock
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] pornogeroc:
same here with Cronos Froyo 1.7.2 ...why this?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] idroid84:
Thanks for this. Has anyone got it working on Android 2.1 HTC Hero G2 Stock ROM?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] SwatMaster:
For Cyan 6.1 too?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] idroid84:
Yep, works fine with 6.1.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] vatvedt:
You need the latest mdpi gapps from http://goo-inside.me/google-apps/ to be able to make the new Market work. At least on Floyo 1.2.0. Some roms aren't using the latest according to Erasmux because they're missing some localizations like German, and such.

I'm using Floyo 1.2.0 now, and it works great after updating to gapps from 20-10-2010. Norwegian language though, but I'm guessing it works for most, just not all languages.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] sreenath_pkd:
Works great on Floyo 1.1.9. But this market update does not allow Fast Web Installer any more :(
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Zonification:
Works like a charm on CM 6.1 on Htc Magic! Thanks mate!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] rosso22:
doesn't work with FROYO_2.2_Special_Edition_RC1_update1, after updating gapps to latest version market will not even start let alone FC! (before updating gapps I at least got to see the first page of new market before it FC'ed)

tried all the usual wipes and reflashes, nothing seems to work.....anybody else had any luck on this ROM?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] rozitg:
Not working on FROYO_2.2.1_RC1_update1_Android_Stock too. I update gapps to ver. from 20101020 and market even start or display any FC.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] habylab:
I like it, but takes up too much of the screen for me..
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] rosso22:
Well at least you can see it!

I got approximately 1.5 seconds of new market loveliness before it was force close city :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] Jincos:
Works Great.

To MAKE IT WORK, YOU MUST PUSH IT. [using ADB]

Thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] soder:
Wrong post
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] merlin699:
works great on 1.7.2 - and finally in my language :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] alioooop:
FC after a few seconds... CM 6.1 latest nightly on my hero :) but the few seconds I could use it was nice ;)

EDIT: tried to flash the recovery file and now it works super good :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] BuzzFuzz:
Hero + FloydVillain 1.7.2 + CM6.1 = does not work @ at my hero

fc
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] dkelley:
tried this (by pushing apk using root explorer and changing permissions correctly) and it FCed whenever trying to view an actual app. lists of apps were fine.

Does anyone have success with viewing an actual app or does that stage FC for everyone? I'm thinking that maybe some users might think it's great but haven't actually selected one item to display yet, just all of the nice new lists.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] vido.ardes:
I've been using it since it first appeared, not a single force close. I have downloaded new apps and updated old ones
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] ZeppeMan:
Same here, not 1 problem with the new market, just working perfect.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] dkelley:
well hell guys, that's just not fair LoL
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] BuzzFuzz:
My solution is:

Just download apk from first page, rename to Vending - copy Vending.apk to SD Card - then copy file with Root Explorer and paste in system/app - override.

Than install Vending.apk from SD card.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] dkelley:
the apk thing is how I got the FCs in the first place.

anyhow I was pissed off that I couldn't run this without FCs so I tried again LoL

flashed zip and voila, this time it works fine!

yay!!

**hey cool - my latest market app (Media Volume Toggle) shows the new graphic in the header. I knew it was supposed to but haven't ever seen that promo graphic used anywhere until now.**

Sweet! (edit: this honestly isn't a shameless plug, it's a free app LoL. But it's my first insight to how the promo graphics work now).
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] dkelley:
damn... spoke too soon. just viewed one of my installed apps using new market and chose uninstall, selected why (space on phone), it uninstalled the app, then when android automatically returned to market it FCed.

edit 1:and now I can't launch market with it FCing instantly.

edit 2: cleared cache and cleared data - now market runs again

edit 3: spoke too soon again - clicked "my apps" and after a few seconds FC.

edit 4: WOW WHAT A PILE OF GARBAGE THE NEW MARKET IS GOOGLE.

not impressed. was cool briefly but now it's time to push the old vending.apk back.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] alioooop:
this new version is something someone fetched from somewhere and because this aint the real update pushed from google, of course it can be bugs when we hack our phones and try to install things we shouldnt have right now :) all this should work fine when the real update comes so just wait and see instead of calling it "a pile of garbage" ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] dkelley:
okeedokee. as far as I knew it this was the official one (so thanks for letting me know, I missed that it was a hacked one!), and since we're running 2.2 on our heros (which isn't possible in theory) I doubt we'll get the real one pushed to our phones. but we can hope I guess...

and fwiw, it's still a pile of garbage ;-)

for people who don't know me well, I'm just kidding about that statement. I'm a developer and understand well how challenging it is to code a solid app.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] rophaq:
running FV 1.7.2, first used the APK, it didn't install.

after flashing the zip through recovery, work like a charm, updated few apps.

(conferm) , it works on FV1.7.2 without a problem.

cheers.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] dkelley:
I hate you. just saying. ;-) (just kidding)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] rophaq:
this is a proper one.just flash the zip through recovery :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] dkelley:
but.... that's what I did last time, worked great then started behaving very badly (and not in a pretty girls sense of the phrase either).

edit: ya know, it's times like this when I start to get frustrated owning a hero when I look on craigslist, see a bunch of ekin M001s from $85 to $150 and think to myself "THANK GOD I don't have an ekin 350mHz resistive touchscreen no hw-acceleration tablet as my only idea of how android is supposed to run."

edit2: in other words, things could be a lot worse than running CM6.1 variants on a hero :-)

cheers :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] chachi:
Installed using apk.

No issues with VR12 with latest fly / smartass kernel.

:)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] filipharvey:
Those who are having issues with force closing etc, this was my solution:

Using Android Commander

Uninstall the existing Market using Applications Manager (uninstall and remove data)

Install Market 2.2.* using Applications Manager

Done!

Not sure how to do this with ADB, but just pulling the Market.apk and reinstalling or pushing the apk to system/app wouldn't work for me. The above procedure was the only way I could get it to work.

HTH
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] MrBackslash:
No issues with Floyo 1.2.0. The market is running fine. I flashed Gapps 2010-11-05 and then updated the market.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] :
worked like a charm, thanks mate
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] anonymousJ:
The New market is realy not worth it, Personally I hate the UI the curved bar obscures the view and it somehow blocks app brain fast install feature restricting access to some apps in an Apple etesque (spelling?) Manner.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] idroid84:
Is it me or has it been pushed out as an update? I didn't update it but I accessed it today and it was updated and I don't no how or why? HTC Hero G2
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] MrBackslash:
Yes Google is beginning to push the new market today :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] idroid84:
ah sweet sweet news!
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] factualpuddle:
so i'm using Floyo 1.2.0 with Flykernal pre12, on Android 2.2.1, which would i use to get this? the apk? or recovery..?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] cyberon:
Same config, still FC. :mad:

What do you mean with "updated"?

- Push apk?

- Flash update?

Thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] MrBackslash:
- Push apk :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] generalExpert:
the new market is so ugly... I hope they change it soon.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] -Asskicker-:
I updated the zip file today, but now the market doesn't run. Force closes all the time, can't access the market any more.

How do I fix this? :/

Edit: Am on latest elelinux

Edit2: Where do I get the normal market, so I can install it again?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] ASSK:
Elelinux has also uploaded the old market. Download and flash it
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] neilaur:
Update market 2.2.11.

More informations : here

Enjoy ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] ZeppeMan:
New market working perfect.
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] takuhii:
Missing com.wsandroid.apk for me. Downloaded the Custom ROM version, I am running CyanogenMOD 6.1.

Any ideas?
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] cyberon:
Same on Elelinux Froyo 2.2. :mad:

Is there any other way to install it?

Thanks.