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[Nook Color General] rogerdugans:
CM =CyanogenMod

Very popular custom roms for Android phones, among other things.

I have been running CM roms on my Droid (original) for quite a while now and haven't looked back. Extra functionality, speed and well integrated improvements over the stock rom. Battery life is even better and it runs 250mhz faster than Verizon set it to run.
[Nook Color General] rhcp011235:
I just noticed it.

I sent it over.

Thanks for pointing that out. I would have never noticed it :)
[Nook Color General] rogerdugans:
I sent out a few bucks.

Just saw that there is enough for two NCs to be sent over to CM. wOOt.

Nothing like getting the hardware into the hands of the devs we want working on this to help "git 'er done".

/begin drooling in anticipation mode
[Nook Color General] Malk3rs:
Bump. Please donate folks; it would be incredible to get CM on this thing.
[Nook Color General] EugeneKay:
After much hemming and hawwing, I have decided to award the first free Nook Color to @NuroSlam (via Twitter). Rhcp and I both feel that he is qualified and capable of making some serious progress towards getting a fully-usable AOSP(and CM) on the Nook Color. He should be picking it up at Best Buy later this morning, and has the next two days off of work. Let's all cheer him on, and see what he can cook up!
[Nook Color General] NuroSlam:
Just arrived

Just picked the nook up, thanks guys, its much appreciated. letting it charge now

Slam
[Nook Color General] NuroSlam:
oh come on, a thanks meter?

Slam
[Nook Color General] suzook:
So how long before you make it your *****??? LOL...JK Good luck...im sure anxious though.
[Nook Color General] nook'r:
take your time, the BnN update should come out next month

which will make it little easier,
[Nook Color General] EugeneKay:
The second Nook Color has been purchased, and it is on its way to Koushik Datta(koush), the famed Clockwork Recovery developer. He should be receiving it near the middle of next week(I have yet to get a UPS number on it).

Unlike his "normal" loaner devices, this one is being made as a no-strings-attached gift, per the disclaimer posted. He may choose to re-gift it to another dev once CWM is ported, but he may keep it. That choice is up to koush.
[Nook Color General] rhcp011235:
Congrats Koush and NuroSlam! Koush is the man! :) and so is NuroSlam :)

So i think we shall see a recovery! gogo koush
[Nook Color General] suzook:
Wow!!! This is awsome with koush now onboard...,im.so glad i returned my gtab....things will be interesting.
[Nook Color General] bluespire:
I just gifted $50 towards this.
[Nook Color General] Ophbalance:
In for 25$. I'll get my Nook sometime in the next week... at the latest before the end of the month. If 2.2 or 2.3 shows up on it in the meantime, well then woot ;).
[Nook Color General] h8rift:
Sweet. Glad to hear Koush is joining in. No offense Nuroslam, I haven't followed any of your work...but if this community knows you, which it seems they do, then more power to you, i'll support you where I can!

Welcome, both of you, to the NC sandbox :).

Can't wait for a working CWM.....time for me to get ROM cookin'!
[Nook Color General] maz57:
$30 Sent. Looking forward to running CM on the nook when it's done.
[Nook Color General] winslow:
It can only get better! Thanks so much! $25 sent.
[Nook Color General] califrag:
Since we're so close to the third nook I went ahead and sent the $20 donation. If this goes past christmas and I still have the $30 gift cards I can donate those as well, but it looks like we should have the next one before then.
[Nook Color General] BertoJG:
I just sent 25 for number 3....
[Nook Color General] EugeneKay:
We're past the mark for #3, and starting on our way to #4! I don't have a set "stopping point" for this project, assuming the donations keep rolling in as they have. The more the merrier, as they say.

I've sent a message to cyanogen, offering him the third Nook. NuroSlam is currently working on getting CyanogenMod 6.1 to build. There is a tentative date of New Year's for a half-usable Alpha build, but there are of course no promises.
[Nook Color General] fortuno01:
mbm did the original root for the nook. He along with Pokey9000 deserve most of the credit for getting the Nook Color community this far so why not collect a donation for mbm and ask him to build a custom rom for the Nook? Does it have to go to the CM team?
[Nook Color General] nook'r:
+1

[MBM] and Pokey9000 are the pioneers in the root of NC.
[Nook Color General] rogerdugans:
Alpha by New Years would be amazing!

BUT.... I want me some Recovery goodness before I take too many chances. I hosed my phone I don't know how many times and Recovery is all that saved me.

I'm out of work due to injury now and can't afford to take TOO many potentially expensive risks. :(
[Nook Color General] EugeneKay:
I've been 'round and 'round with this discussion in IRC.....

The point of this fund is to put more devices into the hands of developers interested in the Nook Color. Anybody is more than welcome to hang out their hat and ask for donations as appreciation for work they have done, but that is not what this fund is set out to do. It is my personal belief that getting as many of these things out there, and thus getting the talented folk fiddling with them and working towards AOSP / CM, is the best way forward, and that is why I am working towards this exact goal.
[Nook Color General] jerrygon:
Agreed...

10 chars..
[Nook Color General] rhcp011235:
Come on guys. We need one to do a proper tear down if you guys want FM/BT working on your AOSP / CM build.

Please keep donating.

Thanks for your support.

Here is some proof we are working on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q699qVQqePk

Just, so you dont think your money is going to waste. Koush has his being delivered today as we speak.
[Nook Color General] rhcp011235:
Can a mod? please sticky this.
[Nook Color General] rogerdugans:
Fandamntastic.

I'm already in for more than I can really spare.

I may be able to count some change piles and come up with some more...

Yeah, I'm really wanting CM goodness on teh Nook Color.
[Nook Color General] xwint3rxmut3x:
I'm in for $20.
[Nook Color General] rhcp011235:
Send it to the donation link of eugenekay
[Nook Color General] xwint3rxmut3x:
Already did, right before I posted.
[Nook Color General] mbh87:
Any word on Koush getting his yet?
[Nook Color General] Pavel7:
My paypal account does not have a "Gift" option when sending payments. Is there any chance I can still donate (i will pay the fee myself) ?
[Nook Color General] Mikey:
Optional methods are noted in post 2 ;)

Keep reading ;)
[Nook Color General] tech_head:
Just Gave a Gift Via PayPal

Just gave my $10.

I don't have a NookColor but I might get one.

Also, for me, at least in the U.S., there is a tab that switches from business to personal that will allow a gift.
[Nook Color General] donballz:
Just sent 10. Merry Christmas for CM!
[Nook Color General] mbh87:
So any updates?
[Nook Color General] Xhorder:
In for $10..

Good luck guys!
[Nook Color General] rboatright:
I STRONGLY SUPPORT ka6sox's need to tear a nook color down for analysis to the remove chips from the board level (this is called "salting" a board... I have no idea why, perhaps because like putting salt on a slug, it's dead when you're done.)

Here are some things we need hardware teardown to identify....

Bluetooth is enabled or disabled by putting +V on a pin on the UNDERSIDE of the wl1230 chip. No way to tell if BT is enabled without a teardown.

USB chip on the board is capable of USB master and USB otg mode, however the correct strapping of the voltage regulators supporting that chip can not be identified from above.

The extra pins on the USB connector the NC uses dissappear into the inside of the board, there is no way to ensure that they are MERELY power connectors.

FM Radio is enabled with +v on a pin just as the BT is. Again requiring a teardown.

There may be jtag pads available near the CPU, this would allow devs to have serial access to the CPU during boot to develop custom kernels, at the present time, there is NO CONSOLE during boot. This would help. Again, no way to identify them without teardown.

it is possible that an fm antenna can be easily attached to a test pad. But we won't know until we know if the fm output is DIRECTED to a test pad.

there's more, but that alone justifies ripping a nook color to bits.

Eugenekay has agreed to buy a board for this purpose if the community agrees it's a good use of funds, and ka6sox is uniquly qualified to do it, since he's done it before on other devices.

THEREFORE I'm kicking in $25 earmarked for this project. How about you?
[Nook Color General] EugeneKay:
I have offered cyanogen a NC directly, but I haven't heard anything back from him. This is probably just the holidays - he is a busy, busy man.

Something that has come to bear is the need for a unit to be torn down and inspected. Nobody has come forward with a "broken" one yet, so I am strongly considering the purchase of a sacrificial unit. However, I'm not entirely comfortable doing this, as the donation request was made in the spirit of purchasing working dev units. As such, I'm going to seek out some feedback from you, the donating public, on whether it is generally "OK" to go forward with this.

This would net us TONS of information about the internals of the NC. There are lots of "unknown" chips that are proving difficult to impossible to get useful drivers for. As well, there is the strong possibility of being able to enable Bluetooth. Once the teardown is complete, the parts will be sold on eBay to try and make back some of the cash.

So, what do you guys think? Buy a teardown unit? I'm mostly asking those of you who have sent in cash, as it is YOUR money I'm talking about here.
[Nook Color General] xwint3rxmut3x:
I think most of sent in cash in the hopes to see custom ROMS, and progressive development on the nook color. I for one, am not a dev, I don't know what it takes to do that. I fully support any decision made and whatever it takes to get there. If we need a nook for a tear down, then godspeed, rip it to shreds :D
[Nook Color General] norkoastal:
Sacrafice the NC for the common good! Hopefully lots of photos are taken during the process as additional eyes on the internals helps everyone..
[Nook Color General] rogerdugans:
There is no doubt in my mind that a sacrifice must be made.

Better to use one that has been bricked already, but if none have been offered that isn't really an option, is it?

Here is my thought: send it to the CM team.

If one gets broken between now and when the next one is purchased we have the sacrificial lamb, and the latest is the working replacement for that dev.

But really I would say that we send them to the CM guys and if they feel that dismantling one is required, so be it. Pick one and get it done.

These guys are working on the project for us and we are helping supply them with what they need to get the job done. How they go about doing it is up to them.
[Nook Color General] EugeneKay:
This will be a totally destructive teardown. Chips will be desoldered, traces will be buzzed, and blue smoke will be let out. FOR SCIENCE!

Tentatively, the NC I have sent to koush is reserved for teardown, assuming he doesn't want to keep it. However, we have a bunch of folks(Team #nookie) who are basically stuck without more knowledge about the chips on the board and their layout.

Keep in mind that the "CM Team" isn't the one working on porting AOSP 2.2 (and thus, CM6) to the Nook Color at the moment - it's the #nookie folks. As well, they are very much phone-focussed.... tablets are a new, scary thing. The beauty of open-source projects is that anybody with the skills can do this, and they are. I say lets give them what they need!
[Nook Color General] camwinnn:
Exactly, CM arnt the only people doing work, NookDevs have already made rooting a simple task with a wiki full of information. Since CM is so busy and the Nook guys have already put way more effort i believe they should get one.
[Nook Color General] mbh87:
I would assume that they already have one or else progress wouldn't have got as far as it has. The devices being purchased should go to developers that don't have one so that they could hopefully further push development. Koush is the perfect person to be getting one, if anyone can get a custom recovery going on the Nook it would be him.
[Nook Color General] camwinnn:
Never said he shouldnt, but talking about breaking one down, theres devs who do this for a living an have show interest in wanting to do it. Fact of the matter is i didnt donate so i have no say. just an opinion
[Nook Color General] momohammed20:
have you guys ever considered a nook for @barakinflorida ? I know he is a great android Dev, and i think he usually tears apart his android phones.
[Nook Color General] nrune:
Okay in for $15.

Please buy a tear down unit I really want bluetooth.

PS: Don't tell my wife. ;)

Mike
[Nook Color General] EugeneKay:
Read my original post - koush received his a few days ago.

The point of this fund is to buy Nooks for Devs who are interested in it, but don't have one yet. Folks who frequent NookDevs tend to already have one.

Anybody who is interested but doesn't have a device should give me a shout out. That's how NuroSlam got his.

I have not. I'll give him a mention on Twitter, though.
[Nook Color General] bighead21:
For SCIENCE!
[Nook Color General] tech_head:
Go For It! Tear One Apart!

As someone who donated.

I say do it.
[Nook Color General] rboatright:
The devs who do this for a living -- assuming you mean CM -- have expressed absolutely zero public interest in working on the nook.

on the other hand, a new, freshly assembled team of developers, documenters, hardware guys, UI people, and etc have assembled out of the air around the Nook Color, and are devoted to THAT platform.

[mbm], cicadaman, fattire, ka6sox, destinal, nemith, pokey9000 are all well respected devs with excellent track records.

essentially all of them have explained, in gory detail, that you can't TELL via software if the Bluetooth on a WL1230 chip is enabled, without un-soldering it and tracing the copper.

This is in no way an attempt to denigrate the CM team. God knows they deserve the respect they get, but guys, we have highly experienced kernel folks already on this. We have highly experienced android devs already on this.

You may not know all those names. ka6sox and destinal come to the project from webos-internals, and Optware, and the SlugOS (as do I) but you CAN look at what's already been accomplished.

Here's where the members of that self-assembled team have gotten you already:

They got a simple root of the NC.

They got the BN kernel compiling from a HORRIFICALLY BAD source drop.

They got FROYO running on the NC without having to flash internal rom, so it's completely safe.

They got softkeys running in Froyo so that the nooks lack of hardware buttons isn't a problem.

Someone in the nook community WROTE softkeys from scratch.

Guys, an excellent team has self-assembled. And that team has already accomplished wonders. Waiting and hoping for the wonder-team to pay attention to THIS platform is less functional that backing the team that's already here and slaving away.

Go look at the wiki and tell me that this isn't true....

And guys, those devs that have already accomplished all this, are telling you that they need a hardware teardown, and that waiting for it is going to delay things like Bluetooth and possibly adhoc and USB OTG and other things you want.

Why in ghu's name would you then say "wait for CM to tell us that THEY want to do a teardown."

We've GOT a team. Back them. You have someoone available who is uniquely qualified to do the teardown, and to tell you what the outcome of it is.

And ka6sox comes out of three previous projects whose absolute rules were openness at every point, so the results of that teardown will be public.

Honestly, if you want to know about bt, fm, the power connector, etc, it's time and past do salt a board.

Waiting just delays getting what you want.
[Nook Color General] camwinnn:
Nope i was talking for ka6sox? (or he at least has the equipment for tear down) saw the conversation in IRC and my pervious post (one before you quoted) recommend the NookDevs, But not knowing there names makes it hard to break it down barney style like you did :P
[Nook Color General] dc5guy:
Lots of good points...
[Nook Color General] KitF:
I think they use the term "personal" payment now.
[Nook Color General] the.tall.man:
http://content.techrepublic.com.com/2346-13625_11-487294-1.html

Hi-res pictures of a nook color tear down? Can any headway be made with what's available here?
[Nook Color General] nrune:
As I understand it...

So not as much help as you think.

Mike
[Nook Color General] Bimboy:
Whatever NC units you buy to help development progress, I think our $ should go towards. If salting is really neccessary to get BT working, so be it, IMHO. FM is only "nice to have", in my book, though others may disagree.

There's a always possibility of bricking the NC via other means. I don't think sacrificing a unit for salting is a big deal. It's all a means to an end (or a means to a new beginning). :)
[Nook Color General] Ophbalance:
I'm all for gutting a Nook if it gets us BT (hopefully without a hardware mod).
[Nook Color General] Geezer Squid:
I donated $20 this afternoon and y'all are free to use it in any manner you think betters the community.

C. R. "Johnny" Diamond
[Nook Color General] coolhand1977:
I donated 30; think we should salt one
[Nook Color General] iamfortran:
just donated $20, good luck! bluetooth would be great!

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays!
[Nook Color General] rboatright:
We have those and better, but notice how many of those chips have metal sheila over them preventing visualizing them. Now notice how many have NO CONNECTORS on the edges. How then to tell if pin 37 in the middle of chip 16 has+ 5v ?

The only way is a destructive teardown
[Nook Color General] rabid_droid:
Not trying to turn this into a CM vs nookDevs issue, but can we earmark donations specifically for getting a teardown unit into the hands of someone from nookDevs? If everyone walking around with rooted Nook Colors donated just a dollar or two, you could probably buy several dev/teardown units for our team.
[Nook Color General] magic-ability:
df

alot of thanks
[Nook Color General] EugeneKay:
I will not be maintaining split totals for a "teardown" unit, but I am taking into consideration the number of people who have said "do it!" in this thread. As of right now, I haven't seen enough support to make me feel OK buying a unit for teardown. It is close, though.

As for "CM vs Nookdevs", there is no such thing. This fund is simply about getting units in the hands of interested, competent devs. At the moment, the "CM guys"(excepting koush) are not expressing interest - busy with holidays, family life, and all the phones they support - so I haven't sent anything their direction.

I agree that we could definitely buy a lot more units, but keep in mind that this fund is wholly for buying Nooks. If you'd like to give thanks to devs that made the existing root possible, you should talk to them. I'm sure they'd love to see a bit of monetary appreciation, so to speak.
[Nook Color General] docnas:
hey guys since ur just looking for a unit to teardown what do u think of getting a used peice? it would be cheaper and make no difference. I ask cuz i saw a nook color on craogslist for 200 ( used 1 month according to the seller screen had a protector on the whole time so no scratches and brand new condition).

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bar/2129398001.html this is a link i found last night i was looking for someting else and saw the add so i just emailed to ask thinking if its dirt cheap get it anyway.Still wherever u are check out craigslist and see its a viable option for a teardown unit instead of buying a brand new unit and then breaking it to pieces.
[Nook Color General] momohammed20:
I think a teardown nook should be acquired, but it should be bought from ebay or Craigslist to save some money + tax money.
[Nook Color General] maz57:
I'm ok with the money going toward a teardown unit if that's needed.
[Nook Color General] Xhorder:
I vote for getting one to be "autopsied"! (all in the name of science)
[Nook Color General] deitiphobia:
Please go ahead and buy one for tear down.

As long as these units are being used to figure out how to enable features and such, I don't see how that violates the original intent of accepting donations.

Go for it.
[Nook Color General] msid:
I think a teardown device is a good idea. The results will benefit everybody.
[Nook Color General] PHiZ:
If you just want a unit for teardown, you can probably get a cheap one with a smashed screen from eBay.
[Nook Color General] momohammed20:
I would also like to nominate XDA user roebeet for a nook he seems like a great developer, and he made the viewsonic g tablet suck less.
[Nook Color General] suzook:
So there are 3 or 4 of these donated units, and not one new benefit. Im wondering if the nook is not hack friendly.
[Nook Color General] Ophbalance:
I would guess that it's holiday break time, and family typically trumps free time at the end of year?
[Nook Color General] candre23:
The first donated unit was only sent out a week ago, and it's christmas week to boot. It is crazy to be expecting any progress this soon. Be patient.
[Nook Color General] rogerdugans:
It is tough to be patient...

But it is likely to take a little while without even considering the holidays-

some of the most popular "wants" could take months of testing unless a unit is sacrificed for one thing.

Plus- well, if this stuff was easy we would all be doing it instead of waiting for others.

I am confident that we will receive many benefits from our donations; maybe not the ones we want- hardware issues may prevent that- but it WILL be worthwhile.

Back when I got my Droid (first android device and first smart phone I've had) the rooting/modding procedure was pretty rough but within a month it was a click or three. Now I have a brand new D2G and I'll tell you what: the rooted and rom'd original Droid holds up pretty well against a stock (almost) D2G.
[Nook Color General] ChaOConnor:
In for $20, use it for whatever you think... ROM, tear down, etc. Thanks!
[Nook Color General] ElSteverino:
In for $15
[Nook Color General] Deodexed:
Just my Nomination!

I would recommend donating a Nook Color to JT1134. He has been doing some amazing work on AOSP (fascinate) and Voodoo Kernels. He also has done some great work with the Galaxy Tablet (VZW).

I will through in a $50 for him!

http://twitter.com/#@_jt1134_

https://github.com/jt1134
[Nook Color General] norkoastal:
Any updates? It looks like the pot is big enough for two more NC's. What else can be purchased to expedite the dev process? I believe a teardown unit is already in process, so that should mean 2 units for qualified devs. Perhaps Toast might be a good candidate for a NC? I see his name all over the place in Evoland and he has been helping with the general CM effort and other kernal related work.. Can someone ping him to gauge interest?
[Nook Color General] Beejis:
I second toast, he is Godly!

Sent from my HTC EVO 4g
[Nook Color General] golfprorm:
Proof of progress.

Tweet from Koush (@clockworkmod):

"Nook recovery working (mostly). Just doing some polish now."

Sent from my Droid
[Nook Color General] Beejis:
Sweet!

10char
[Nook Color General] donballz:
Wow, i was not expecting results this soon. These guys are awesome.