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[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] payonel:
My phone is working right now.

I read tons of forums and info about rooting - doesn't mean I know much about it.

If it helps in your replies, please note I am a linux expert and I don't need help understanding file systems, files, busybox commands, etc.

I followed jonsuh dot com's guide entitled /2010/11/ "root-your-droid-incredible-how-to" [I've heard I can't leave links, hence I obfuscated it]

phone is new, nothing installed (well actually, just ConnectBot for ssh, and the verizon&htc bloatware)

specs

htc incredible with SLCD

hboot 0.92.0000

radio 2.15.00.07.28

installed the modified android usb driver for my windows 7 32bit machine

started the reflash_package.exe from unrevoked

selected the cwm slcd recovery image

set my phone to usb debug

plugged in phone to pc

clicked ok in unrevoked to begin flash

6 minutes pass with reboots

hboot shows S-OFF and cwm boot

phone starts up, applications show superuser permission

ok fun, everything i read says to make backups before i do anything. note that all i want to do is remove the bloatware, that's the only reason i'm here! :(

so, i install rom manager from the market

i allow unknown sources at this point

i try to choose "Backup Current ROM" - error message says I need cwm recovery

so, first option in rom mgr, "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery", i select that one

I give it root access

Next, I select "Backup Current ROM"

phone reboots, screen bricked (black with white bars)

I freak out here ... bad (swore a couple times, not my style)

So, I go to hboot (cwm), select recovery, screen goes white with black lines on side and one at the bottom...I let it sit for 10 minutes

Pull battery

Reboot, phone works again

This time I return to ROM Manager, ROM Manager now things cwm recovery is installed

I select "Backup Current ROM"

Phone reboots

screen black with white bars on side

I reboot to cwm, select recovery, wait 6 minutes

Pull battery

Reboot, phone works again

And that's where I am right now. I'm not going to even touch ROM Manager until I feel confident I'm not going to jack up the slcd drivers again.

Thanks to everyone in advance!

-Payo
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aauussttiinn88:
ok have 2 things for you to try

1: make sure you have enough room to create a nandroid backup on your SD, as this has cause problems for people in the past.

2: find amon RA recovery .img in that allows you to flash in h-boot

Being computer savvy like you say i would think you wouldnt pull the battery while its making a back up, i know it feels like its a long time when your screen is black but trust me its doing its thing u just cant see. But above all i honestly reccomend AMON RA recovery for the droid incredible as it fixes the issue with the slcd...hope this helps:cool:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=758874 heres the link for AMON RA just follow the flashing directions and remeber wont be able to use rom manager with this other than just to simply boot into recovery, but honestly I think rom manager isnt that useful anyway IMO
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmc2543:
I'm amazed how much I see this advise I don't remember where I read it but there is a version of cwm that you can use when using unrEVOked, I am running it on my phone as I type this. I don't have it with me atm but ill post it and how to get unrEVOked.to use it.instead of the one it is installing.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] payonel:
putting it back together again

Austin:

I enjoy your jab at me for claiming to be savvy and yet careless for removing the battery during such a critical operation. I knew making such claims would surely invite the least of comments like yours :). As you point out, it is difficult to wait patiently in high stress situations.

1. Make sure there is sufficient space on the SD card.

> There is 1.61 GB free of 1.81GB

> The SD is FAT formatted

2. Get AmonRa

> Roger. Download completed.

Should I use unrevoked to 'push' amonra to my phone? Oh, you say that site has flashing instructions. I'll review them.

I now have strong objections to using ROM Manager - I have been burned. So, if you say it is not that useful, well, I'm an easy sell. How do you recommend I create a backup?

jmc:

I used the version of cwm that was specifically built for SLCD screens. It was (to my best guess) ROM Manager's fault (perhaps it ships with a bad cwm that it flashed over my good one). Had I used a bad cwm initially with unrevoked (note, I did not run the default option with unrevoked, but selected a custom recovery image - as per jonsuh's guide that I linked) I would have had a screen-brick from the very beginning.

Austin:

I assumed that my new stock phone would not have HTC Sync (read somewhere to remove it if you've added it, which I haven't), but when I browsed the phone on my pc with a usb link, I saw that the phone's drive has HTC_Sync_2.0.40.exe. I would guess that this exe would be presented to my windows machine if I were to choose 'htc sync' on the phone when connecting (as opposed to charge only or removable drive). Am I wrong? Should I be concerned about this?

So my next step is to start reading about amonra - and then prepare to flash the drive.

Thank you very much,

Payo
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aauussttiinn88:
yea just download the AMON RA recovery boot into H-BOOT (volume down+power) and it will automatically pick up the file and promt you to update simply click yes and after its done select recovery from H-BOOT menu and boom you will now see AMON RA then procede to complete your nandroid back up
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UnknownPleasures:
http://www.incredibleforum.com/forum/htc-incredible-hacks/5721-i-rooted-now-i-only-see-black-screen-white-bars-recovery.html
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] payonel:
In the crosshairs

"download the AmonR RA recovery boot into H-BOOT"

I think what you're saying is to copy the amonra to the sd card's root dir (named PB31IMG.zip) and allow update, then select recovery. My only concern -- what if something goes wrong? Heh, I just feel there is no safety net. Does a stock version PB31IMG.zip for my incredible+slcd exist out there for download? Or can I always depend on the 'revert to stock' option in h-boot?

"then procede to complete your nandroid back up"

With what tool? How? I've not found anything on this that makes sense to me.

Appreciated

-Payo
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aauussttiinn88:
Yea creating a nandroid back up is an option within the custom recovery read up a little bit more so you understand vital parts or gaining root and flashing custom roms I suggest you scour the wiki
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RunTimeWorld:
Ok you PM'ed me, so here's what I'll do:

Get fastboot, make sure it is in /yoursdk/tools

- fastboot oem rebootRUU

- fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-2.0.img

- fastboot reboot

- done

Note that AmonRA and CWM are not compatible.

A side note: Without pointing a finger, I'd still think about whether you really need S-OFF or not, it's ment for developers and people that are ready to brick the phone for the sake of it.

Hope this helps
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] payonel:
no s-off needed

1. Why fastboot and not an update drop on the sdcard/PB31IMG.zip? A lot of people opine the update method is preferred.

2. I'm nervous about ruu bc I've not read anything about it (and it takes me hours of reading before I feel safe to procede with these things).

3. In this thread I was pointed to RA 1.8.1, and you suggest 2.0. I saw 2.0 was the latest, but was concerned it was for the HTC GSM Desire only. (according the post I saw about 2.0 by amon_ra himself).

4. I don't care to test roms, only remove bloatware and have su -- I can see why I don't need s-off for this (but unrevoked just seemed the most reliable method at the time). Can I turn s-on without reverting to factory? How would you recommend I do this? [note, i am a developer, but anything to protect me from bricking!]

5. I've installed the CWM recovery...but (oh noob i am) does that mean i'm running cwm? I don't think I am. I don't want a custom mod. Clockwork is the boot level tool, and there is a mod, clockworkmod as well, right? Oof..given how much I've read, I would think this would be clear to me by now.

Again, much thanks to everyone,

Payo
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmc2543:
If I am following what you are saying you are seeing the issues with the cwm that is suppose to work with SLCD screens then thats odd, I havent had any issues with it, besides rom manager not being able to reboot into recovery 9dont know if thats the recovery's fault though.) Just in case you havent tried it try this one though, its the one I was talking about.

For any future browsers, and just fyi, in order to change the recovery that is installed using UnrEVOked once the program is loaded up you click file in the top left corner and then select custom recovery, then browse to where you downloaded the recovery.img to.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tylerwagler:
you CANNOT use the clockwork mod recovery that comes with unrevoked for SLCD inc. results in black screen with white bars.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmc2543:
That's been established a while ago. If you read my post you will see that I have provided instructions on how to make it use the version that does work, that I included. Read before you post.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rezanow:
Any preference? I loaded the Gingerbread one, and it replaced my multitouch. Not sure how I feel about it yet, so I thought I would ask the masses. =)
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frosteddroid:
idk yet either... im using the gingerbread and it feels a little tighter than a vanilla keyboard and im not a fan of being cramped so il proably go back to vanilla...
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CondemnedSoul:
I'm using the gingerbread right now too. I like it but it's only been a day or two now so I'll give it some time.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doogald:
I don't like either one of them. I'm sure that the Droid multitouch is great on a higher-res screen, but on the Eris, it's pretty mediocre. I found the Gingerbread keyboard a little laggy. So far, the default vanilla Froyo works best for me.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrObvious:
I actually use Better Keyboard. On Tazz's ROM it doesn't lag.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rezanow:
I may have to try that one. I have been using Swift because of the awesome prediction, and on KaosFroyo there is little lag if I turn off the haptic/sound feedback. The Droidx Multitouch screams along on KoasFroyo, but I prefer the prediction on Swift. I'm always interested in new keyboards though. =)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matshako:
Probably a dumb question, but is it possible to restore apps etc. in cwm after flashing a new rom? Im on stock jpa now, and wondering about trying the new jpu 2.2.1. If its possible, how do you do it? Advanced restore after flashing and restore what?

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drunkeneti:
hey

I have also the same question..I am now on DocRom 7.6.2 with corrupted /system but I did not run into any problem so far, but now everybody is totally excited about JPU so I decided to flash this new Rom but I do not want to reinstall every application..but I think it is possible to restore the /data partition because it only stores the applications. But I do not know for sure..

I hope somebody knows it :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matshako:
Let me know if you find out. Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] generalExpert:
Can someone please explain clearly the difference between Unrevoked 3 (.22) and Unrevoked Forever (for EVO use).

I've read both Wiki's and it seems, for the EVO, that both permanently give root, unlock NAND, and s-off.

If I root with Unrevoked 3, what exactly would be the reasoning for flashing Forever?

Please answer specifically for EVO use.

Thanks

sent from my bad-ass EVO!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] generalExpert:
sweet...

sent from my bad-ass EVO!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeballer:
Unrevoked forever achieves S-OFF, which means, even if for some reason you become "unrooted" (such as accepting an OTA) you can always go to recovery and flash a rooted rom. S-OFF is a somewhat permanent NAND unlock.

Unrevoked 3.22 includes the forever flash after the root process, however, I have noticed sometimes it doesn't flash properly, so anyone using unrevoked 3.22, should verify they are S-OFF in bootloader. If you are still S-ON, then download and flash the unrevoked forever .zip until you get S-OFF.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] generalExpert:
Thanks, but its just hard for me to believe that the whole point of Forever is "just in case" you don't achieve s-off with 3.22. It has to do something extra right?

What is this stuff I've been reading that its not permanent... or is this just old info. When I read the 3.22 wiki it says that it "now" achieves root as of 3 whereas before it did not.

sent from my bad-ass EVO!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeballer:
Well forever was released after other root methods. So people who rooted either manually or simple root or whatever.. won't have S-OFF, unrevoked were the first to come out with that, and the forever .zip download, lets those people have it too.

Old versions of unrevoked did not reach permanent nand unlock so you'll read a lot of old stuff about how unrevoked isn't a "full root", but now with forever, it does.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] generalExpert:
Ok, so by rooting with Unrevoked 3 I don't need to flash Unrevoked Forever, right? Because now with version 3 I achieve the same things that Forever does??...

Is this correct.

sent from my bad-ass EVO!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VDub2174:
I rooted with unrEVOked 3 and have S-OFF so you should be fine.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeballer:
In theory yes, as I stated, unrevoked 3.xx has included the forever flash, but you just need to double check that it all went through, there have been many reports (in the IRC chan, and my own experience with a replacement EVO) that people are rooted but not S-OFF after finishing unrevoked 3.xx.

As above.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caguirr4:
op-put simply, do the unrevoked3.xx to root your phone. if you get s-off in the process then good no need to do anything else. if you still got s-on then you need to run unrevoked forever. simple as that. just because it worked for someone else does not mean that it will work for you. just do it and then verify it is nand unlock.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] generalExpert:
OK, just rooted my EVO for the 2nd time ever. Went pretty easy. However, I was using Ubuntu 10.10 64bit and it took a minute to figure out how to run the reflash program as a root user. I did get some errors about the radio not being supported and update failed. After a reboot I noticed that I did not have s-off but did have the ClockworkMOD recovery and the superUser Permission app. So, I ran unrevoked forever and viola I now have s-off (and the unrevoked splash screen). I see now why this is useful, just wondering why I had errors with my radio version.

unrEVOked forever S-OFF patch v1.1

Verifying system type...
E:unsupported radio version
E:Update failed. Check /sdcard/soff.log.
E:Error in /data/local/unrevoked-forever.zip
(Status 42)
Installation aborted.
Failure at line 1:
install_zip DATA:local/unrevoked-forever.zip
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pecosROB:
Why the **** won't UnrEVOked 3.32 ****ing run on my Windows XP and EVO??? WHAT THE ****???

HTC Sync is NOT installed

USB debugging is enabled

What the **** am I missing here?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jstn76rs:
Did you install the driver from the help section?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pecosROB:
No... and I totally did read that! Crap! Thanks, hopefully that will be why...

So I would assume I just need to run the .exe file with the phone turned booted back up?

I hope I Don't have to redownload everything...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
Using the engineering bootloader, like simple root did, has unlocked the NAND (s-off) since day one. Unrevoked just figured out a way to do it with other bootloader versions
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShakerX300:
Even more questions of whether I'm truly rooted or not...

First time posting although I've been lurking for quite a while so hopefully I don't get flamed out of here on my first attempt.

First I did root my Evo using unrevoked 3, all seemed to go well and correctly as I ended up with S-OFF, superuser app, etc. I created a backup and everything, (still running stock Sense ROM.) Do I need to try using Unrevoked Forever now?

I started reading posts about backing up RSA keys and WiMAX partitions etc and when I connected the phone (yes usb debugging and charge only); opened a command prompt and browsed to the ADB directory I never get the # confirming I have root access. (I only get the $)

Now from what I'm reading Clockwork mod backs up the WiMax anyway but I still wanted to walk through the process to get more familiar with it. I guess my first question is do I really need to back up the partition and keys if I have a successful nandroid backup?

Also I installed root check and the under the basic setting it said I had no root access, and then under the advanced setting it said I did.

I tried installing Ti backup and clicking under problems to install busy box thinking that may be the problem, but I don't see the setting it describes there where I can change to install busybox.

Finally I also downloaded the busybox installer. It gives two options of where to install it in either /system/bin/, or /system/xbin/....does it matter? Will installing it this way be ok or do I need to push through ADB? If I need to push through ADB then obviously I need to get my # root access figured out.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can try and help me make heads or tails of this situation.

Radio: 2.15.00.11.19

Software Number : 3.70.651.1

Hardware Version: 0003

HBoot: 2.10.0001
[Focus General] bremic9188:
I'm now on my 2nd Focus because of this problem. 1st off, I do have an SD card in there but have not had any restart or any problems which seem to be due to the card.

I had the first Focus for about 3 weeks when all of a sudden it wouldn't connect to any cellular data. No EDGE or 3G. It would connect to WiFi and I could still make/receive calls and texts. But no internet or MMS. So I chatted with AT&T. End result: restore phone. I restored the phone WITH the same SD card in it and it worked fine...until the next day. Same problem, lost all cellular data connections. So then I chatted with Samsung. They suggested it was due to some 3rd party apps I installed (which I though was BS). So I ended up going into the AT&T store and they gave me a new one.

So I've had the 2nd Focus for about a week now and everything was working perfectly fine (with the same SD card in it). But about an hour ago, I lost all cellular data AGAIN! Restarted, toggled data connection off then on again, but still won't connect.

Could this problem really be caused by the SD card (as AT&T said?) I just don't see how an SD card can mess up cellular data. I know it does cause performance problems for some people, but cutting off data?
[Focus General] bremic9188:
I guess nobody else is having this problem?

I went ahead and restored my phone again since I couldn't live without 3G connection. Still don't understand what's causing the problem though.
[Focus General] bremic9188:
When I remove the SD card without restoring it just reverts back to a new install (since it can't see some of the data on the card I'm guessing) and the 3G works. I put the SD card back in and all my data is back but the 3G or any cellular data connection is gone again.

After restoring it this last time, I get 3G back (as usual) with the SD card still installed and have had 3G since I restored it.

It just seems like I'm the only person having problems with my cellular connection and the SD card, and I don't understand how the SD card can affect that. I understand loss of data or performance issues but not loss of 3G...

And as far as when I usually lose 3G, I have had info saved on the SD card for days before. Each time I've restored with the SD card in I sync all my music back to it and it definitely rolls over to the SD card. I haven't put anything on it this time to see if it will lose connection within a week like it's done before.
[Focus General] wspaw:
Yeah, it's tough to imagine a link between the SD card and the data connection, but, clearly there is. It may be in the manner that WP7 addresses the memory. It treats it as one large drive and, perhaps, after the hard reset some of the system data that deals with the data connection gets written onto the card?

Who knows? Pretty strange. It'll be interesting to see what happens now.
[Focus General] bremic9188:
Thought it was time for an update on the situation...

It happened again and I had to restore the phone 1 more time a week or less after my last post. I did leave the SD card in as I normally do. The only difference was I didn't put ALL my music when I synced it (all my music adds up to well over 8GB). Instead I only put a little to where the total space taken was far less than 8GB. As I kept installing apps, taking pics/vids, blah blah blah it is now at the 8GB mark. There is a little noticeable lag now, but nothing unbearable at all. What hasn't happened (yet) is the loss of cellular data.

I'm hoping it doesn't do it again, or the upcoming update will address some SD card issues as well as copy paste. *crosses fingers*
[Focus General] kawgirlval69:
considering it keeps happening and the 1 mainstay is the sd card....id try it without the card.... if it runs smooth...its the card.... if it screws up its something else... just too simple not to try... from what ive read, sd cards have caused a wide variety of problems, from just reboots to the extreme of bricking phones....

you havent even mentioned what brand and class card it is... it could be one of the unstable ones... if so theres your answer...
[Focus General] bremic9188:
It's a Kingston 16GB Class 4, so it's confirmed working. It does seem the SD card is the problem, but (1) I don't get how the SD card can cause cellular data failure and (2) why am I the only one that is having the problem? (at least it seems like I'm the only one having a problem with losing cellular data)
[Focus General] kawgirlval69:
well just might be a bad card... not everything that makes the shelf is perfect...

as for the why.. like i said before , there are a variety of problems... just not restarts and losing data... ive seen locking in airplane mode...ive seen bricking...etc

like i said take it out and try it.. its the only way to be sure... if it is.. try another card format the phone... put the new card in and format it 2 times and go from there....

"definition of insanity.. repeating the same action over and over again, expecting a different result..."
[Focus General] StasCh:
I don't have any card at all, but my focus also losing all data connection. It disconnects from network during switching between several cell towers. I need to reset my phone several times during my travel from home to work. It looses connection always in the same place