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[G2 and Desire Z General] swags:
When I read the full section 3 of T-Mobile's terms and conditions, the line you quoted does not appear to be a seperate ETF for data services. The line you quoted simply allows T-Mobile to charge an ETF even if I only drop my data plan. The bold, all-caps language still only says that an ETF of up to $200 per line of service may be charged, and none of T-Mobile's materials refer to a data plan as a separate line of service.

Of course, if you try to abuse the system, do not be surprised if T-Mobile (or any other carrier) returns in kind by charging extra fees. Signing up a new line and completely canceling is playing with fire, and there's a good chance you'll never be able to open a line with that carrier again.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mgmaz:
Tried switching to EMP today - it quoted me the $200 ETF (note that this would go down to $35 after 1 year). However, after clicking all of the "are you sure" questions - it told me that I cannot switch because an unlimited data/web plan is not compatible with an unlimited ANDROID web plan. Haven't called yet to get them to explain themselves. Honestly, either T-mo's network and/or my G2 itself performs so badly that I'm pretty much reliant on WiFi (even for calls at work!). So, I'm seriously thinking of trying to get the 200MB plan and saving that wasted money.
[G2 and Desire Z General] pjcforpres:
Trust me, like I said before, I work for a certain cell phone company, and the legal is sound. They word it the way they do so it can apply in all states. In my state it is $200 for the voice and $200 for the data, in other states it is different. But when you sign on the dotted line you are agreeing to maintain voice and data services for 2 years, and ETF can and does apply to both "lines" of service. So, where I am live, you are looking at $400 in ETF if you try to do something like this... some places it is less, and others they can only charge a maximum of $200 for ETF... but they also have unreturned equipment fees, etc.

These schemes rarely work out. Cell phone companies are in business to make money, and have a lot more lawyers on the payroll than any of us would like to believe.
[G2 and Desire Z General] skipfletcher:
Just wanted to put in my 2c in case it helps anybody:

I have a G1 and the Even More Plus $60/mo plan and had previously spoken to T-mobile sales and they said I could transfer to the $60 (200mb) Even More plan and pay $200 for the G2. That wasn't good enough to me.

*SO* after some roundabout at the phone kiosk at Costco I ended up getting the phone for FREE with the Even More plan. It actually wasn't through Costco at all, it was through T-mobile's cancellation department.

They can do it, you just gotta be pushy (they even lied for a while about not having a $60 Even More plan).
[G2 and Desire Z General] dhkr123:
I don't think they'll let you get away without paying the BALANCE OWING ON THE PHONE.
[G2 and Desire Z General] swags:
You obviously have first hand experience, so I can't argue with that. It would make for an interesting case in court, but the mandatory binding arbitration clause precludes that. The arbitrator certainly would not look kindly upon an obvious attempt to game the system.

Based on your explanation, this double ETF would not apply for switching to an Even More Plus plan assuming you maintain a data plan. So, if anyone is willing to forgo the ability to purchase a phone at a subsidized price in the future, that is still a way to save money in the long run.
[G2 and Desire Z General] pjcforpres:
For the most part you would be right; usually when they let you switch to even more plus, or pre-paid, it is an exception that includes you agreeing to keep the pre-paid service for the remainder of the contract (or another time frame that is exceptable).

It is one of those things that rarely is stressed or pointed out at time of activation, and most people's experience with it is getting an exception made for one of several reasons; return the equipment, switch to a pre-paid service with the same carrier and agree to keep that pre-paid service, etc... AT&T makes an iPhone exception a fair ammount if you break it, they will let you drop the data line but have to finish the contract, Verizon will do similar, but they also are chargin a lot more per month than other carriers for basic service. In general, plans and price points are designed to make a profit for the last 4 months of a contract. Verizon and AT&T usually make profit after the first year with their current pricing, and sadly most carriers are moving that way.

Anyways, it has been taken to court before with Verizon, maybe AT&T as well, I know Verizon last year. Basically, the courts told Verizon they had to change the way it was implemented, but was legal, so you see the new wording like AT&T that says for select phones you pay $350 instead of $200. T-Mobile still has the old wording and application which is more universal on a state to state basis, thus cheaper to implement as a policy.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dadewy:
I don't know about other companies but TMO has no "data ETF" that I've seen. And yes I've cancelled and paid the "regular" ETF on smartphones.
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
http://m.cnet.com/site?t=LKKzi.DChmwmS2X67FYikw&sid=cnet

Wow so cool. The Nexus S has tethering and hot spot. So Awesome! Well guess what? so does Froyo Vibrant and also DNLA but the Nexus S seems to be missing it! Lol. I think I will keep my Froyo Vibrant!
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
6 things NOT to love about the Nexus S!

http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20024930-251.html
[Vibrant General] HRodMusic:
im sticking with the vibrant until the dual core androids start coming out =D
[Vibrant General] tonie972:
cool thread and very informative.
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
Wow Nexus S has No SD Card slot.That sure would be a deal breaker for me.think I will be keeping My Froyo Vibrant.Also has no DNLA support.come on Samsung.getting lazy or what? Lol. full Spec Page:

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=2976.
[Vibrant General] tonie972:
really? cool! why don't u post something that we don't know and stop creating useless post like this one and many others you have created.
[Vibrant General] avgjoegeek:
Sounds like they just crapped out a Galaxy i9000 with a new wrapper.

Well good news is that once it's released you might start seeing some Gingerbread ports to the rest of the Galaxy S Line :D
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
If u don't like my useless topics or post then feel free not to read em.its that simple! So please move on!
[Vibrant General] Chalup:
Why are you so defensive about an upgrade to the Vibrant? Why are you so emotionally involved with your phone? Most important, why hasn't this thread been deleted?
[Android Apps and Games] addre:
I have a Google Nexus one. And like other Android user, I'm worry about my power button.

I have to turn on device by it, turn off device by it, light on screen by it, and light off screen by it...

This button is the most laboring component on my Android phone, I wanna release it, but I can't found any solution suit me in Market.

So, I start to study the Android API, and try to find a way to light on and light off screen without my power button.

Fortunately, I found the proximity sensor and light sensor are work on sleep mode, and I try to write an application to turn screen on and off by sensor.

This application named "Sense Lock", and renamed to "Light lock" after a few weeks to fit it's icon.

The partnership of light sensor and proximity sensor is work successfully on my Nexus one, but it not work on other devices, and causes the setting more complicated.

I forsake the light sensor reluctantly at edition 2.0, and now it's works on more 2.2 devices, such as HTC Desire, HTC Desire HD, Samsung i9000, etc.

I'm excited to present this application to you, and waiting for any suggestion and question. Please try it, this application is free.

URL below is a video of "Light lock", but it made with early edition, this application not work by light sensor currently.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6rPJ7qMEIs

QR Code:
[Android Apps and Games] Sian:
Hi

Check Android Market, and found the app, but the comment said that it works with Nexus One only.

Can you clarify whether it works on the others?
[Android Apps and Games] ph3nom:
it seems it will get annoying since if there is an object pass the sensor it will automatically turn off screen. It is a creative apps tho. But I don't think using the sensor will be the best idea.
[Android Apps and Games] Anon87:
Can't get it to activate lock on Desire. The device vibrates but doesn't lock.

The proximity unlock seems to work correctly.
[Android Apps and Games] accst02:
Thanks, Let me try it
[Android Apps and Games] addre:
I forgot to correct the summary on Market, sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] addre:
The vibration indicates the lock function can be launched by long press only.

Please keep pressed, the device be locked in few seconds.

Else you can set the "Lock function on portrait mode" item's value to "Lock normally", then you can lock device by normal clicking.
[Android Apps and Games] redhorse:
how about when trying to make a call? obviously your ear will block the sensors will this app automatically be disabled?
[Android Apps and Games] Anon87:
Thanks, just a few questions:

Is there any way you could add a shortcut or widget to disable the application? For example when you want to put phone in your pocket.
[Android Apps and Games] addre:
This application will monitor telephone status, and do not work when telephone is working.
[Android Apps and Games] addre:
Thanks for your suggestion, I still study to fix the erroneous response when device on pocket. Disable application may be a feasible way to fix it.
[Android Apps and Games] bitmappp:
one of the best app for SGS!!!!

Thank you :):):) been using before with 5800 i use proximity to lock unlock my phone

[YOUTUBE]<object width="640" height="390"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JqHKzOW_mw8&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JqHKzOW_mw8&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></embed></object>[/YOUTUBE]
[Android Apps and Games] eclair88:
maybe you can have time limit to unlock the screen?

the user sets to unlock in X sec.

then if pressed for >X sec the app will not unlock.

i think it will be better right?
[Android Apps and Games] usernome:
I cannot find it on market .
[Android Apps and Games] khaytsus:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/lightlock/com.twrd.yulin.senslock

OP,

Interesting idea, but I use the trackball to wake and I have WidgetLocker in ADW to lock, but maybe I'll give this a try. I've never found sensor based locking to work in all circumstances and often annoying, but I too avoid using the power button as much as possible.

Thanks for the app :)
[Android Apps and Games] britoso:
nice idea. thanks.

Works great on my N1 :)

Had to tweak the values a little.

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.twrd.yulin.senslock
[Android Apps and Games] Kaine16:
awesome app works nice on the Evo, now i noticed that like previously stated the sensor can be triggered by anything including putting the phone in ur pocket. is it possible to only activate the app via sensors if there are no other physical objects surrounding it, or just make a specific position the phone will use the senors via the gyroscope.

thx
[Android Apps and Games] coolravsun:
Many Thanks Addre! Ur app works like a charm on my Motorola Defy!

P.S.: Would be a greater (it already is a great App!) app, if you can provide a widget for it. ;)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neutron619sd:
so this is my story... i downloaded a battery app and installed it and it asked me to reboot the phone and now im stuck on the 4g boot loop... i had my phone rooted at a cell phone store so my question is can i just go into the hboot and use the clear storage? or will that just mess things up more?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tiffany84:
Me personally I wouldn't mess with that. I would go into recovery and do a complete wipe and reflash your rom or your backup if u made one. Just me though.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nuggyunlimited:
+1

Swyped from Eva running Myn's RLS4!
[Android Themes] carloscsnva:
Hey guys I just thought I would start up a thread to see all of our Gingerbread creativity! Here's some of my pics!
[Android Themes] closedchannel:
Heres mine, Gingerbread theme :)
[Android Themes] carloscsnva:
Here's another screenshot

Gosh i cant wait till the source code comes out and we get the real thing!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] buzz killington:
I found a little program in the market called J Bench Mark 1.0. It measures the read/write performance of your storage device (nand or sd). I thought if enough people are interested we can compile a little database on which cards perform well in the HD2.

The program has options of 10mb, 50mb, 100mb and 500mb of test data but I didn't find a big difference so I'm using the smallest one. The write unit size however makes a big difference in performance so I'm doing all 3.

10mb/2kb:

Write: 1.82 mb/s

Read: 2.78 mb/s

10mb/4kb

Write: 3.14 mb/s

Read: 5.17 mb/s

10mb/8kb

Write: 5.17 mb/s

Read: 10.35 mb/s

Average:

Write: 3.38 mb/s

Read: 6.10 mb/s

I am using the T-mobile USA stock 16gb Sandisk card, test ran on HD2ONE 0.3.4b.

I'm not entirely sure if this is the right sub-forum, but as the program is only android I thought it'd fit better here. If any mod feels it belongs in accessories please move it as you see fit.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Macelangelo77:
I tried a similar app but with unstable results. I don't have them with me as I'm on the bus to work right now. As the results varied hugely, I started wondering whether any result would be of use to anyone. Because our OS is on the SD-card, there will be constant read/write activity, which will continuously influence your test results. In other words, IMHO, the only way a database with such results will be useful, is when the tests were run under the exact same circumstances. I think though, you can't fully control these circumstances, because of background processes (like sync, weather updates, etc...). Even when killing those processes, Android will most likely restart some of them, making your results incomparable. In other words, I like your idea, but I doubt whether it is useful if the results aren't from tests under the exact same circumstances.

Sincerely,

Mac

Sent from my reborn HTC HD2 running Android 2.2.1.
[Wildfire General] dudin03:
So I tried to install modaco rom and did the usual steps.

After I successfully installed the ROM I tried to flash HCDR jacobs kernel but when I rebooted the phone the kernel isn't updated. so I tried to reinstall the modaco rom. But this time I got a Black screen. I freaked out and removed the battery.

now every time I load the recovery, in HBOOT it says no image or something, and when I try to access any menu items in the recovery the screen turns to black and nothing happens.

Also during the black screen. when I press the power button again the recovery menu shows up, but when I select another menu item The screen turns to black again

PLEASE help me I'm screwed, Did I brick my device :((:eek:
[Wildfire General] Michealtbh:
Don't use the power button to select things in recovery, use the trackball
[Wildfire General] brilldoctor:
If that doesn't work run a rru
[Touch Pro CDMA] Talon Pro:
Has anyone done one? Im not normally a fan of flashing, but i love the way CHT works, and dont want 6.5 on my TP.
[Touch Pro CDMA] TechGuy77:
Not sure why you are not liking 6.5...most devs have left and those that are left are only doing 6.5. Keep what you have or adapt...just a friendly suggestion.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wspeed:
I've setup my gmail account on my desire HD. Sometimes it worked well, I can receive notification just when I received a mail, but sometimes it will be several minutes later, and for now, it didn't show up at all.

I've checked all settings, it's correct. And if I changed some settings at sync&Account options, it'll show push message several minutes later; but after a while, it won't work again.

I never faced these problems when I use Iphone. So could you give me some advice on this issue?:confused:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wspeed:
BTW, when I received a message from i.e. whatsapp messenger, the push mail notification will show up at the same time.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sneets:
My GMail push works flawlessly. Instant notification as soon as I get something. No idea what's wrong with your account/settings though, sorry. The only thing you could mess up is turning synchronization off for the whole device or even only for your GMail account by accident, but you said you checked that...maybe double-check it again, that would be my only idea right now :-)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jokies:
Always remember you need data connection for gmail to work.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wspeed:
Thanks to all, maybe network problem.

I finally got my notification 30 minutes later. It's work status seemed not stable. And today I got my mail notification much sooner, I mean less than a minute.

Maybe it's network problem, I'm not sure because it's all OK when I used Iphone.:(
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nandihno:
i get exactly the same problem...

i do notice that notifications work perfectly when i am on my wifi..however under cellular data (3G or H) sometimes the notifications can take their time..sometimes it comes immediately..and i know because i set up a notification widget at my work pc and that works flawlessly,

so what i end up doing is to set exchange for gmail!..

and that works perfect..well almost 99% of the time..

for this to work..you set up exchange put your username and no domain..

and server for gmail is m.google.com

set the update for push..and thats it..

now gmail on cellular network gets push correctly...

it sucks cuz i rather use the gmail client...but it will do for me...

so ..am guessing that if it works on wifi ..it might be an issue with the cellular network..i am with vodafone..
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] olivierlee:
I'm with Optus and I get new mail notifications on my phone near instantly over 3G.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samchilla:
I noticed this too when I started using my phone

exchange server seems to be real push, gmail app takes a while to update for me but i like the gmail app more than the standard mail app, maybe theres a better one out there.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] maff1989:
The right-click function mentioned in the topic would be an amazing feature to have in any android build. Being able to hold down on the screen for a second to bring up the menu is invaluable. Not to mention the amount of stress it would save on the Windows button.. :)

Now this is only a request for the development of an idea I had for the current android builds. I do not expect anything to be done about it, only taken into consideration. If the work involved is too heavy and difficult to manage, then it doesn't have to be done. There are already MIUI builds that somewhat incorporate this idea.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] evolutionqy7:
whats wrong with pressing the windows button?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hookguy:
Some people have it in theur minds that pressing the keys too much will break them. Don't see why, if that happens you can't just buy a new set of keys from eBay to replace them...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Stom:
Personally, I'd like to see someone develop a way of using the hardware keys to control the touchscreen. I'm really worried that, because of Android, I'm using my touchscreen more than it was designed for and I'm going to break it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheATHEiST:
lol, yeah these people who break the hardware keys are obviously pressing them to hard or something. My HD2 is second hand, ive used it very often with the keys and they still work fine.

The keys are there to be pressed, its as simple as that.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] clio94:
have you seen software key panel app;http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865525

it brings in the screen 4 software button that emulate the hardware button

no need to press anymore the hardware button

if you search in the thread you will find some very good skins for this great app

it is easier to break hardware buttons by too many times pressing them instead of break touchscreen from pressing

many people like me have broke their buttons because of the need that android have of them
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] karendar:
I think that was dripping sarcasm from his part. :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
Android already uses long-click in a lot of situations, I'm not sure how your idea would be able to co-exist with that.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] maff1989:
That's true. Although, my idea was to ADD a long-click/right-click function to, say, the Browser app. Instead of long-clicking a link, picture, etc, you could long-click the page and bring up the options menu for the Browser app, not necessarily just links, pictures, etc.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
That could not be done on a system-wide basis. Every single app would have to specifiy what part of each screen brings up the "right-click menu" and what should be on that menu.

If they were going to do that, they'd have done it already. And that is what the menu button is for.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boredtoday:
I need to do this because I.want.to get past the 4gb file limit of fat32, so I can watch mkv's on 720p
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krush64:
Ext2, what else??

Hello everyone,

I have the same issue. I tried to format on mac with MacFuse+Ext2Fs

But SdCard doesn't mount.:confused:

Already, is this possible? I just bought a 16G SdCard for the same reason.

Help is much appreciated.

Thanks in advanced
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nexuid:
Is there no solution?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pundulum:
There is solution for partition auto-mounting.

Follow by these instructions: h__p://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-europa-5/221066-tutorial-install-applications-into-sd-card-samsung-galaxy-5-i5500.html

It work like a charm on my HTC Desire.
[Trophy General] tiwas:
Anyone know if there's a way to set up a custom color scheme?
[Trophy General] AngryNil:
There isn't as of yet.
[Trophy General] tiwas:
That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for confirming :)
[Desire General] Richard_tricky:
Hi i have a desire running the stock standard rom unbranded running the lastest OTA update from HTC

for the last few days my preview pictures of my browser bookmarks are no longer showing.

Ive tried deleting then and then re applying, but no previews.

nothing major but annoying.

can anybody help? **or please at least check for me***

Thankyou
[Nook Color General] Dark Virus:
Hello all,

I have strange problems while charging (wall charging only) my NOOKcolor: the touch screen is not responsive (either at all or very sluggish). On home screen I could launch programs, but not rearrange (drag), have to type very slow in order to get input, on lock screen cannot even unlock :(

If disconnecting the charger (from wall or cable from nook) it starts to work perfect.

My NOOKcolor is fully rooted, but the problem remains after un-root/factory rest.

Anyone else seen this behavior?

Any solution/suggestion?

Thanks,

Darky
[Nook Color General] deezldub:
Your problem is not unique and has been noted by many others. No fix was discussed yet though.