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[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] JorgeMontano:
V3.2 ROM tested

Hi einsteinecker,

I tested the V3.2 ROM and the camera issue is not present anymore, also I noticed that the icon USB to PC is present and functional, but I have problems while trying to connect to Windows Live, after I entered the credentials information a progress bar is displayed "Checking internet connectivity" (BTW what I want to accomplish is to store my Hotmail contacts in the phone's contacts list, also sync my hotmail to Outlook) then the progress bar is completed and closed, but none of the selected options were accomplished or a sign-in was successful in the Windows Live item in the Today screen. So until the moment cannot sign in to Windows Live from the WL item in the Today screen (BTW I can sign-in to hotmail via web browser).

Anyway is not a big problem the Windows Live sync issue, I can live with that :), but hey!! thanks for solving the issue camera and the USB to PC icon so quick, you are terrific!!.

Something I'd really like that you could add to newer versions, will be more themes (colors will be great, I don't know maybe red, green, yellow, pink, etc).

Well thanks for your great support and for making the best 6.5 ROM for the Treo 750!!!.

Keep up the good work!!!.

Regards,

Jorge
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Hmm, that's strange. I did encounter that error myself, but that's because I chose "@hotmail.com" as my sign-in, when my sign-in is supposed to use "@live.com". Maybe that's what happened to you? Afterwords it went through the contact syncing and everything, and I checked Live messenger which worked as well.

I also suggest you should look into your connection settings. Although my ROM supports using the APN in the sim card, my sim card has an old APN that no longer works, and the phone tries to use that unless I change it to the working one. Perhaps your sim card also has more than 1 APN, and maybe it is an APN that does not allow non-WAP connections (for example you said you were able to log-in to hotmail via the browser, if you were using Internet Explorer by default that browser is WAP first, non-WAP second.), or maybe your service provider has a specific proxy to use for HTTP connections. My service provider has a proxy that must be used for WAP connections.

I could upload the different colored themes later, but after I fix new hard drive problems that showed up.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] JorgeMontano:
Hi Einsteinecker,

You were right, the problem was with the APN, I was using the APN located in the sim card, after I changed the APN to the non wap, it worked flawlessly, thanks again, you are amazing!!!.

Regards,

Jorge
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] JorgeMontano:
About Silent mode

Hi einsteinecker,

I noticed that when the phone is in silent mode (turning off the sound switch), when I receive a call the phone does not vibrate, I use the silent mode when I'm in the office so I miss calls very often, could you please fix that?, beside that little problem I think your ROM is the best!! :).

Regards,

Jorge.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
There was a reason why I removed that, it is directly related to the bug where you cannot change the ringtone. As it stands, unfortunately you must manually set it on "vibrate" in the settings where you change the ringtone.

But, I never pursued that bug because it's just another one of Palm's incompatibility with the newer OS's. But, I did fix some of Palm's mistakes, right? I'm going to try a patch, not a new OS, to see if I can fix the "vibrate on ringer switch off" option. Please check back every now and then, as I will look into this immediately, because the last resort is to re-enable the vibrate switch, but disable the ability to use custom ringtones ~___~

Edit: Seems a simple fix is not good, I will need to add some files. That will be tomorrow.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Sorry about the missed calls :o But I've got something here for you, a fix for enabling the Ringer Switch at the top of the Treo. (attached)

Please read the following carefully

As I mentioned before, I disabled the ringer switch "vibrate" function because it has a ringtone bug where you cannot set a custom ringtone. Well, I fixed that of course, now you are able to set a different ringtone and have the phone vibrate when the ringer switch is set to "off". Do note the following, as it is very important:

-The ringtone setting for "known caller" appears blank. Switch to a different setting and then back to "known caller" in order to change settings for it. This time the changes are persistent, they will not reset like the old bug did for practically all Custom ROMs.

-IMPORTANT: I will stress the importance of this. The main reason why I did not enable the vibrate function of the Ringer Switch is because the particular dll in question does not like the WM6.1/WM6.5 "Sounds and Notifications" changes since WM6 (it's incompatible). So there is a bug, I repeat, there is a bug where "Vibrate on ringer switch off" is actually "on", and vice versa. Again, you must remember it as this:

"Vibrate on ringer switch off" = Phone vibrates when ringer switch is set to "Silent mode"

"Vibrate on ringer switch on" = Phone vibrates when ringer switch is set to "Sound on"

I don't remember if it was like this in Palm's OEM, I do recall it wasn't, so for now just remember it as this. ;) (by default, the phone will vibrate on a call when ringer switch is set to "silent", so you don't need to change anything.)

-Next, I would like to remind everyone that this patch is a one-time only patch, meaning you cannot uninstall it as it will cripple your Notifications (you can only uninstall it by Hard-Resetting your phone). So if you do not want this function, or if your phone vibrate motor is dead, don't bother installing this patch.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] JorgeMontano:
Your hotfix solved the ring switch off problem, thanks again einsteinecker, you are truly amazing!!!.

Sorry for the late response I've been busy these days. BTW my wife is waiting the Theme Colors update for your ROM :o

Best Regards,

Jorge
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Sorry, I forgot about that :o

Attached are the themes for WM6.5 only. Inside the archive are folders for each respective theme. Instructions for installing:

-Inside the folders are a ".tsk" file, and some images. Only extract these files inside the folder, and not the folder with the files, and copy them into your /Windows/ directory of the Treo.

-To select a theme, go to the Today screen, press right softkey "Menu -> Preferences -> Today Settings".
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] JorgeMontano:
Thanks einsteinecker for the themes!!!, my wife will love the pink one. ;)

Regards,

Jorge
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Simonas0:
Hi Einsteinecker, I have tried to get OEM and SYS folders with PKGTool by Bepe, but nothing.

Can you upload OEM and SYS from WM6.5.x v3.2 Hermann Classic?

Thanks
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Hi, sorry about the delay. Life and such...

Hermann Packages

I can only upload the Palm related files for now, unfortunately you will have to get the OS elsewhere. Ftorsol's kitchen might help you with that.

I trust everyone knows how to use these files, can't really write up a tutorial again.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] razvann:
What is the latest and most stable WM 6.5 by Einsteinecker?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Hi, it's in the topic title, for Windows Mobile 6.1, the latest version is 3.0. For Windows Mobile 6.5.0, the latest is version 3.2.

Windows Mobile 6.5.3 is no longer a viable platform for our Treo750's, due to low RAM and slow CPU, as well as Palm OEM programs being incompatible with the OS.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Simonas0:
WM6.5 on T830

Hi, it's me again. I have old phone - T830 and it has official WM5, unofficial WM6 and WM6.1, but still no WM6.5. I think, that hardest problem is resolution, because no one phone runs official WM6.5 in 240x240. And I found WM6.5 on Treo 750!!! It is with 240x240 resolution and runs WM6.5!!! I downloaded your Treo WM6.5 ROM image, tried to make it for my T830 device, but nothing. I don't know anything about ROMs, I am absolute beginner. Maybe you want to make WM6.5 for my phone? Very big thanks!!!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Galileo:
well that may be true, but wm6.5.0 isnt to far away from that really, dont you think so? after all in neither versions has been eliminated 100% of the bugs, i would say the best rom for the treo is the 6.1 one, althought i like the 6.5.3 more, therefore i keep that one, ram and cpu speed isnt such a deal if you overclock it to 400mhz or so.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Hmm, T830? I don't have a ROM image for that. It might be possible, but without a device to test, it's just a shot in the dark.

There are a number of reasons why I don't consider WM6.5.3 workable right now, aside from the hardware requirements. For one thing, the symbols/Caps icon that shows up beside the SIP icon, it does not work on WM6.5.3. But I have been in contact with a developer here in regards to my Epix, and he actually made a version for the Epix that shows the icon on the top bar and not the bottom. So it could be possible to try that for our Treo. Another problem would be that Start Menu icon, but I came across a way to disable it completely lol, it might work here. And then there's also the size of the entire OS, visually speaking, it just looks too big for 240x240. Now comparing it to my Epix, it really is too big, and unfortunately we don't have the option to go to a lower DPI like I did for the Epix. Aside from that, I don't think you can overclock the Treo750, I've tried, I even went so far as to flash a Hermes Radio, but the Treo does not persist the clock changes. There was only one instance when I did overclock it, but that was it. The most critical reason why I don't like to overclock? Data services do not work when overclocked :(
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Galileo:
well, ive tried some themes that actually make wm6.5.3 smaller, and that way it actually fits really good in our treos, you should try it its livven simple gloss 96, o and btw about overclocking just use xcpuscalar 3.03 i tested it with kh chain of memories and the speed difference may not be notisable on game, since it runs perfect, at least for me, but during movie sceances you can see it clearly, what i do is that i overclock to 470-500 while playing something big, and overclock to 300 or less while not using it.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Simonas0:
WM6.5 for T830

Files from WM6.1 beta X for T830 are here:

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=80e3d365536d78aa&resid=80E3D365536D78AA!512&parid=root

What I want (something like that):

1. Copy SYS and OEM folders from your WM6.5 to New Folder;

2. Copy XIP from T830's WM6.1 to New Folder\ROM;

3. Copy drivers from OEM_Driver to right direction (I don't know where it will be);

4. G'Reloc.exe the .VM folder (I found in internet that G'Reloc don't work with WM6.5, so you know better how to do identical action:));

5. BuildOS.exe.

If you have no time, please upload New Folder, but if you want, you can do all to the end.

Following instructions:

6. Copy MDOC.DIO to New Folder;

7. imgfsfromdump imgfs-in.bin imgfs-new.bin;

8. imgfstonb imgfs-new.bin MDOC.DIO os-new.nb0;

9. copy os-new.nb0 MDOC.DIO (it's command line);

10. Upload new MDOC.DIO.

Thank you very much! :)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Galileo:
well, what can i say einstein?, ive been trying your wm6.5.0 rom with the android ui(only the clock,icons, and homescreen plus plus ,not the top bar)and it feels really comfortable and looks awesome, the reason why ive always prefered the 6.1 roms its because they felt more reliable but i got to say, your rom feels really reliable, its fast and has given me no problem so far, it runs moon gba at fullspeed and you managed to put the side buttons menus while replacing the green button menu to stop the white square glitch, as sad as it is im changing my treo for a new phone but ill keep my treo as my trusty one.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] razvann:
It's incredible to have the creator of this ROM here with us, answering our questions!

I have reports of very low mic gain on my 750 (Hermann 6.1 v3.0). Hardware is fine (rubber thingy is clean).

I have a registry editor, but do not know which keys must be changed. Any idea?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Well, I'll give it a try. No guarantee's though, I've never done this cooking style before :o

Yep, my Treo is still that second phone in addition to my Epix. In fact, I still miss the d-pad.

By the way, I've been testing a Hermann V3.0 WM6.5.3 build that can disable/enable the Windows Start icon on the bottom bar. Perhaps you would like that?

Have you tried the "Micrphone AGC" setting in the System settings? (Start->Settings->System) That doubles the microphone input on the Treo.

Other than that, that's all I know of for fixing it via software. If it's a hardware problem..... maybe there's dirt covering the mic. Mine had a lot of dirt, in fact, every port at the bottom of the phone had dirt :p
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] razvann:
Tried AGC, no joy. Probably the max gain is the same low, the software just adjusts between that and really low...

I have moved the board of an unlocked Treo 750 in the near-perfect case of a locked 750V, and so the opportunity arised for a general cleanup with isopropyl alcohol and a toothbrush, followed by a hot-air bath to ensure proper soldering. So the mic is clean. I have found on some threads directions to certain registry keys that can amp-up mic and speaker gain (kinda like VolumeCare software for Palm OS), but my OS does not have those specific keys. I will ask there. Thanks!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Simonas0:
If you know better way, do as you know, I am not sure about 1 - 5 steps. Thanks
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Samueldw:
I finally got a new battery for my palm treo. Now, i'm going to try one of your roms. Which one would you recommmend?

One of my parrents is using it as mobile phone so it has to be stable, fast and good ;P

And bubble breaker must be present. Kind of addicted you could say :(
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] JorgeMontano:
hi Samueldw,

I could recommend you the ROM V3.2 Herman Series, I think its the coolest ROM for your Palm Treo 750. Don't forget to install the last patch for that ROM if you don't want to miss calls when ringer is off :P.

Kind Regards,

-Jorge
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Samueldw:
Have you also tested the 6.1 version? Normaly, they are faster and more stable.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] JorgeMontano:
Yep, and I like more the ROM 3.2 Version with Win Mo 6.5.0. It has a cool start menu and almost every option is finger friendly touch version, no stylus needed anymore.

Also tested the Win Mo 6.5.3, but its not stable and reliable as the 6.5.0 version (ROM 3.2).

Hope that helps you to decide :).

Kind Regards,

-Jorge
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Hi Samuel, it's been a while.

I would recommend 2 of my ROMs for your parents, 1st is WM6.1 version 3.0:

-Very fast.

-Has more RAM available (in case your parents don't completely close applications)

-Has more storage available.

But WM6.1 is best for a power user. For your parents I would recommend WM6.5.0 version 3.2 because:

-Very user friendly

-Finger friendly

-Does not have Activesync open every time

BubbleBreaker is in both of those ROMs, and both ROMs are stable (no memory leaks), a working Camera and Bluetooth functionality, and both ROMs are practically bug-free (that I could handle instead of Palm). Don't forget the Ringer patch, and enjoy :)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Samueldw:
Thanks,

This weekend I will try the WM6.5.0 rom. Many thanks for still supporting and developing custom roms. I own a HP ipaq 614C but the support isn't that great. A shame cause it is a very nice PDA.

The problem was really my battery. The PCB was faulty. With the new battery everything works correct and the treo shows the right battery status. Pretty happy with that.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] JorgeMontano:
Hi einsteinecker, about your ROM for Win Mo 6.5.3, how can I turn the taskbar to the bottom, right now is on the top of the screen, and is overlaid with icons of opened programs, could you please give me an advise.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

-Jorge
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Good to see your battery is okay Samuel ;)

Hmm, I'm not sure it's possible to switch the taskbar to the bottom. WM6.5.3 is specifically designed to have the layout that way.

If you are asking on how to remove the opened program icons on the top, that is an option in xTask, which can be disabled (go to Settings, and uncheck "Show Icons")
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Samueldw:
Great! I realy love your work, and you're still helping us with problems. I bought you a beer :p

The only thing that does not work well is the vibrate on ringer switch patch. My treo now vibrates when the ringer switch is set to silent and he doesn't vibrate when it is set to sound.

So it seems that the patch doesn't work for me. I do not realy care, so that's not a problem.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] JorgeMontano:
Hi einsteinecker, what I really mean is that I installed the V2.3 Hermann Finger and it does not look like the picture below, it is displayed like the V3.2 with WinMo 6.5.0 version, but with the overlaid of open programs, BTW thanks for the tip on how to disabled.

Kind Regards,

-Jorge
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Thanks for beer :D

About the ringer switch, I detailed the problems in this post, the reason why it's buggy is because it is reversed, what we were used to "off" is now "on", and vice versa. Weird bug, but I cannot fix that because it is Palm's dll that controls the ringer switch.

But if that still doesn't work, hmm, maybe one last fix, if I can cook a new ROM with the patch built-in, maybe it will work.

Ah, I think you mean the theme. Unfortunately I deleted that version off my hard drive, so I am downloading that from my link so I can test it again. But if you mean the theme (the dark brown colors), I think I removed it because it was a theme for WM6.5.0, it wasn't compatible with WM6.5.3.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Well folks, I have to announce the end of all Treo development, due to my Treo finally dying after its 2nd replacement keyboard (I really typed the heck out of that thing :p)

The final ROM that I wanted to make was the removal of Microsoft MyPhone and Marketplace, as you all know Microsoft shut down both services, rendering those parts of the phone worthless.

But, I guess as long as you don't tap on those icons, it's fine right? :D

I want to thank everyone for their wonderful bug reporting, I tell you all now, I would not have even noticed those bugs if it weren't for your inputs.

Would this be Palm's final encore for the Treo750? I think so, we all kept it alive 5 years after its release :D Well, with Palm having been bought by HP, and then dissolved, I gotta say this was a very interesting run for me, and I once again thank you all for your support.

Thanks again, folks!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] JorgeMontano:
Thank you!

Thanks to you einsteinecker!!, I've found your ROMs very useful and practical.

Kind Regards,

-Jorge
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Samueldw:
When is the memorial service for your treo? It was a good fellow. :crying:

I want to thank you for your support. You are the only one I know who has kept up developing roms that long.

And as long my treo works, I will appreciate your work. :D

Are you going to develop a rom for another device?

Grtz
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Well, this post will be the memorial post :angel:

Attached is the final look at my Treo. The phone was flashed well over 100 times, I have flashed every known Treo750 ROM onto it including ROMs created by Chinese folks, and my primary use of the phone was for internet. My ROMs were designed for a usable experience when browsing with various browser software (Opera Mobile 10 is usable only with the NinjaDuck beta), and I really used it to the max, going so far as using IRC and the most daring thing I ever did on my phone: running torrents as high as 500mb using Winmobile Torrent :cowboy:

The final damage is:

-3 broken keyboards (one of them is not in the picture because I don't know where I threw it :silly:)

-Vibrate motor died, and was replaced.

-Earpiece speaker suddenly died, and I had to replace it with one from a different phone :cyclops:

-Damaged radio antenna (inside, when I tried to make reception better and instead cut reception in half, still works!)

-Broken stylus (It broke in half after so much use, I glued it several times :crying:)

-More than 3 different batteries hacked into the Palm battery unit (what you see is one of them)

-Notice the keys on the Treo, around it looks dirty. Well, in this high humidity in Asia, the rubberized coating on the Treo is melting and now almost the entire phone is a little sticky! :(

Despite all that damage, the phone is still works! A true testament of old manufacturing methods, and the durability of Palm Treo's :victory:

As for what phone I will be cooking for next, I have no plans at the moment, but I might go through with helping others for booting Android with Windows Mobile. I'll still use WM, because it just works ;)

thanks again, everyone!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] libal:
well, i flashed the rom and it looks good! Thanks.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
That's great. Do tell your experiences, I am particularly interested in the part of receiving calls, if you set a different ring tone than the default. I don't get calls much (mostly my mum or my pops), so I've never really seen if setting a different ringtone works.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] vsm99:
WOW !! this rom works excellent on my treo. will now try google maps and other apps as well
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Galileo:
my poarents left the studio locked, and that were i have all ny tools, i guess ill have to wait a little more as my laptop has no tools and it would be a pain in the ass to get them all working again... -.-, but ill try it out as soon as i can! im already downloading it! it does look great, maybe i can solve the office issue by deleting one of the folder shorcuts in the start menu
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Galileo:
wow, ive tried it and it is awesome! theres just one thing i dont like, i dont know if this is a bug but when i change to a different theme its all buggy, even if i soft reset, and to solve office issue go to windows- start menu -programs, leave office 2010 icon and delete the one that says only office mobile.

also you cannot change backlight, and umm let me think ... a yes! xtask is a great tool but those icons on top of my apps titles boder me to much, how can i delete it from the rom?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Galileo:
sorry but its still not usable whenever you change a theme or wallpaper it just stays buggy all its buggy, o and whn that happens the lock button at start menu becomes a little windows flag instead of a lock