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[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Samueldw:
Well, untill now, that's about 15 minutes from install, my battery and my external power aren't recognized at all. It only change the backlight when I use the option 'on battery power' even when I'm connected to external power. And the battery icon on the today screen has a ! with it.

Update: my battery is recognized after a few resets, but still only backlight for battery and not for external power.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Hmm. This is perplexing. Gathering all my knowledge about Treo hardware problems, I can simply say your battery is bad, but there are other non-battery issues that does affect plugging in external power.

For example, my Treo suffered a dying vibrate motor, which would randomly vibrate when I either reset, plug in power, change the brightness, etc.

The strangest part of all that I find out of all this, is that you said WM6 is fine with your battery, or at least it does not give errors. The only difference I see here with WM6 and WM6.1 is that Palm specifically configured the software for WM6 Builds 17xxx to 19xxx, my WM6.1 build is a 20xxx which meant my boot order is scrambled (as well as WM6.5, or any build 20xxx or higher). In fact any custom ROM with a build of 20xxx or higher suffers this problem too. (This boot order problem is the sole reason of why we can't see our Option/Caps status icons beside the SIP icon.)

How do I think this affects you? Well, believe it or not, but Palm's CPL file is what controls many of the Palm applications on the Treo. For example Keyguard can only be visible if Palm's CPL is properly present (this is how I was able to fix Keyguard in Version 3.0). Palm's CPL is also controlling Power and Brightness settings, which in your case is where the problem lies: my ROM's, with their scrambled boot order, cannot load Palm's CPL properly, so Battery reporting will not function the same way WM6 does.

This is where I want to configure version 3.0 as the final supreme ROM, as I finally figured out how to solve this boot order problem. My only problems now are controlling the boot order, because I may have solved how to fix it, but so far I can't seem to absolutely control what program loads before the other.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Samueldw:
I think the problem is the battery 'hardware'. I took my battery apart. I'm student electrical engineering so I have had quite a few shocks before :)

The open circuit voltage (no idea if you call it that in english) at the pins is 2V, but the open circuit voltage from the real battery is 4V. An other battery which I took apart had 4V at the pins and at the battery. So maybe the problem is the chip of the battery.

I deattached a wire and after a while attached it again, but no luck. Still 2V
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toxic77:
Hi again, I already tried disabling xtask and xhook before, but what it does is that it still runs on startup of the device, already checked all the options to disable it but everything didn't work, hope you fix everything on the next if you are still going to release it. cheers. salamat kabayan.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Ok thanks for the feedback, I'll look into it. Say, try deleting the xTask folder in /Program Files, maybe that would help.

Oh, I should let you know, using File Explorer, you need to go to /Windows/Startup/ and look for an xhook or xtask shortcut, and delete it (in File explorer you might need to go to Menu->Show all Files). That should be the main cause of why it still starts up.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toxic77:
Hi I used the fake server method and activesync is now gone, thanks, hope you release a new fixed version soon.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
I thought I'd update everyone on what's current. First off, my laptop suffered a catastrophic hdd partition failure, causing me to go out and buy an emergency external hdd to copy all the stuff out that I could save. From the looks of it, all of my cooking software is intact so I will try to get back to it.

And I've got some solutions to my internet problems, so as version 3.0 will be the final version, I plan to make it a big party by uploading everything related to my Kitchen, as well as making my ROM fully supportive of all languages as well. I want to make sure when I leave the Treo scene, I want to leave something behind for all Treo users to enjoy.

But what fun is all that if I don't get to work ;) (just need to finalize sorting my hdd files)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Samueldw:
Great to hear that you're able to upload everything. I'm looking forward to it.

Maybe I'm leaving the treo too. I ordered a HP Ipaq 610. More rom, more ram, better processor and wifi. So I hope I'll recive it today. My dad will get the treo.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
Tks for great work!

I'm an old-fashioned guy, and I love this classic Palm's phone.

I tried 6.1 v2.5 from you and it's really impressive. So glad that until today, there's still a guy support 750.

I want to ask that whether this rom can use micro sdhc, 4G or bigger... I tried yesterday with an adapter from Micro SD to Mini SD, but it didn't work, may be the reason is the adapter???

Always keep watching this topic for 6.1 v3.0, and I hope you continue go on... :)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Well, my replacement phone is stuck somewhere at Customs, so I'll be using this Treo for a little bit more :)

About your adapter, if you got it cheap from a place like dealextreme.com, you might need to open it to fix it, or place some tape on the top of your MicroSD and then put it in the adapter. I bought several from Dealextreme, and all of them wouldn't work unless I fixed the contacts inside (they wouldn't link up with the MicroSD). Brand name adapters are preferred, I also have a Kingston adapter, and the highest MicroSD I have (16GB) works in the Treo :)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
I'm from Vietnam, easy to buy adapter, but the quality is unknown. Today, I tried another adapter, but it didn't work. It's not because of micro SD, may be the contact inside adapter, I'll try as your comment. In fact, I'm now using Mini SD 2G, that is fit to my demand, but that card is not good. So I have some micro SD, I hope to use it for 750 properly.

Nice weekend :)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
Your advice was right :) I didn't do anything with inside contact of adapter, just tried to force the micro sdhc go in properly, as I thought. And... it worked, hehe, 4GB micro SDHC, lot of stuff to do. Though I've had much experienced with WM software, I still love 750 as the beginner, stayed up till 3am to play with this babe.

So I want to ask few questions:

- Is there any prog/app to toggle on/off the keyboard light. I used 700w before, and it has program "Keylight" to do that. I tried it on 750, but not okie. Though I adjusted in your Advanced config to 2sec, but I still hope on a proper program. I love QWERTY, so when I get used to devices, I don't need keylight :D Please kindly advise.

- I tried HTC Home 2.1 on 750. It's nice and strange, a little bit slow and sometime conflict if you press on icons on Launcher (need reset). But it doesn't matter 'cause you can turn Launcher off, it is still worthy. The most significant, it made the call key function dissapear, you can't see call log or difficult to view a search contact on Home srcreen. So I added Resco Contact, poor interface, and the way it search contact is not smart. With these 2 guys, I thought it is heavy, so I removed them. But call key function did not work, too :( I had to hard reset to get back to simple but convenient call key function of origin Palm

Lot of launcher for WM, so you are the cooker of this rom, I would like to ask which launcher do you think/use suitable for this 750.

Tks in advance!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Good to see your card works.

I mentioned about this in this post (see if this works for you), but I can't pinpoint the way to actually turn off the keyboard backlight. It could be an intel specific feature (the 700w uses an Intel processor).

I did try to cook HTC Home into my ROM, but it's difficult to program, and then I can't get rid of the "Screen rotate" icon, if I do reconfigure it, HTC Home won't work properly.

So I end up using the today plugin in Resco Explorer. It works great, and it doesn't eat up much RAM. It is just for shortcuts only, as well as some cool toggle shortcuts like radio on/off, bluetooth on/off.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
Oh God, you are awesome...

I'm in office now, and left 750 at home, can't wait to go home :D

Please release 6.1 v3.0 soon, and go on ur great work :)

I prefer 6.1 to 6.5 'cause 6.5 i think it's not comfort for screen size of 750. And touch Flo on 6.1 working very well.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
Well, today I have time to view some pages of your thread. I see you guys reported on keyguard problem. I crashed with 6.1 v2.5 at 1st time installed. After I push power button, the screen only off for 2s, and on continously for whole midnight that I didn't know. Accidentially, I had chance to test my battery, it's really good :D

Then accidentially, I adjusted brightness, then it worked normally, but back to low brightness level, it still happened.

After that, I tried your 6.5 and 2 other rom. But finally, I come back to 6.1 v2.5, and it now work like fantastic.

Another problem, may a rom effect on vibrate? At 1st time installed, my vibrator did not react. I though I have to repair, so I shot the red P1 and try to open :( (my 750 - Telstra, she still virgin when I got her). But I did not dare to discover her at last, so when I flash the rom again, vibrator worked. Oh God, I wish I hadn't opened her T.T

Well, then, I am now trying the Speed dial, if you create a new one and click on tab Advanced, it's not display tab content. Could you please have a look on that? Can we use Speed dial with flexible purposes: quick call, quick sms, or quick program... just like Palm Os. I sugguest the answer is no, but I still ask :D

Tks and nice day!

OMG, just mentioned about vibrator, it's now not working :( how could it be randomly like that, I don't want to hard reset anymore, please help me? Hope the reason is hardware, easy to solve.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Wow, thanks for the heavy feedback. A first :)

I guarantee Keyguard to work in version 3.0, for WM6.1, WM6.5.0, and WM6.5.3. Unfortunately, our ROMs will forever have the Backlight Bug due to a fault in the display driver. A Palm 2.31 ROM fixed this, but no one seems to have that. So be sure to avoid backlight levels 20% and 30% (the order is: off, 10%, 20%, 30%, and so on).

It is most likely a hardware problem. I had a faulty motor that had to be replaced, and now my phone does not vibrate randomly. But, version 3.0 will try to lessen vibrate control problems, thanks to my wavedev fix, and maybe my module-to-file fix might help as well. Still, it really sounds like a faulty motor.

Thanks very much for the speed dial feedback, I did not notice that and will look into it (I am looking at it right now and I see the problem you have).
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
Hi, glad to be your tester :D

Long time since I have these feelings on Cooked rom like this. I already cooked a rom for myself, but mainly cut down for better memory, not to optimize, when I used 700w.

I just sold a "all-in-one" HP 914c Russian keyboard - sometimes confused to use, after that I bought this 750, 'cause I still like WM. Well, WM, especially in Palm, though many people don't like it, still have its own value to one who love it. I haven't tried 800w, but I tried Palm Pro, I like its shape, its color, but the keyboard, and the screen is a little bit different, so I got 750. WM on Palm's property, great on its own way.

Well, sorry for many silly things, I'm a gossip guy :D

Looking forward to your reply on little problem of Speed dial :)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
Hi Megamind, any progress on testing 3.0, very long time waiting to me...

Nice weekend :)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
I've been really busy, and do remember my Treo is the phone I mostly use (Touch Pro is CDMA). There are some good news and bad news, so I'll share the bad first.

Bad news:

-I mentioned earlier that I may be able to upload all my kitchen packs. Unfortunately, my upload is still messed up regardless of what method I used, so I will end up having to use the costly method as it is the method with the lowest rate of failure (but anything I upload still is 50/50 chance of going through). This means that I may not be able to upload all packs at the same time I upload Version 3.0 ROMs.

-I had a project to finish last week, while fighting health issues, so I will be a little behind on testing. Do take into account I have also been trying to repair various problems with my laptop (my only computer I have to cook ROMs), which is costing me time and money.

-I cannot stop Activesync from loading, so the Activesync Fix will need to be applied by the user.

Good News:

-I fixed the Speed Dial "advance options" bug. Now advance options can be accessed.

Release date is unknown, but I will try to get it out as soon as possible.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
well, too many bad news...

I hope you and your stuffs get well soon, and the kitchen upload would be smooth also. I often use mediafire or 4shared.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Well I thought I'd give a few updates, but it's not looking too good right now. I've spent much of the last 2 weeks trying to track my replacement phone (an Epix) which unfortunately due to the Seller's compounding blunders with the shipping, I have not received it yet. Add to the frustrations of piling up work and things I need to do, I really can't say when version 3.0 will come out. The last bug that's been killing me, the Option symbol that shows up beside the little keyboard SIP icon, it's very important to me as I am a heavy typist on the Treo and seeing that icon is key for me to type properly (I type really really fast on the Treo). I never could pinpoint why it cannot work 100% of the time (having it work 50% of the time is unacceptable to me).

In the end, if this week is over and I have failed my duties, I will end up posting Version 3.0 and post all of the packages, as it is no longer a viable and lucrative option for me to continue ROM Development for the Treo. I believe my time is up for this phone, and it's a shame my Epix did not arrive to brighten things up a bit.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
Wish you could find the problem with Option symbol. that's definitely good property of Palm Treo.

Anyway, if you stop, I and guys that still using 750 greatly thank you for your cooked ROMS. To me, 6.1 v2.5 is best ROM ever. Fast (compare to its specs), fairly good battery consumption, micro SDHC works well...

Today, I have tried SNES and Pocket NES on 750, it works perfect with thousand of games. I love it more n more :D

Just seach about Epix, the specs is good for WM, hope you will enjoy it soon :) I hope u like Palm and will try Palm Pro, that's a really nice and good one.

Nice weekend, Megamind!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
Hi Megamind, any progress on revised 3.0? :)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
I'm close to fixing the Option symbol bug. The problem I'm having right now is that it only works on the first boot. Once you restart, for some reason it stops showing the icon. Again, I would guess the boot order is messed up, which isn't going well right now :(
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
Well, sound serious problem :(
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Actually, I just now found the cause, and going back to the beginning, it now works :D (WM6.1)

Now I'm testing my software additions to see if they break it, so far TouchFlo and xTask work fine, but remember that I had to start from scratch (the 3rd time now) so hopefully before this weekend is over, I'll be done and uploaded. You can set up this thread to email you of new posts if you want (thread subscriptions :))

Edit: I have also got the Option Symbol to work on WM6.5.0. Unfortunately, it re-introduced a bug that needs a re-write of the program, which may not be possible :(
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
hehe, suscripted :D Looking forward to your good news.

How about your Epix?

Though now I still love 750, these days I get my eyes on Palm Pro, 'cause I'm a Palm addict ^.^
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Version 3.0 updates

Well, I thought an update would help. First off, the Option symbol beside the SIP icon, I may know what the problem is, but unfortunately I cannot re-program the software to play nice with these newer builds. Palm only made these work with WM6, any build higher than 19xxx will have problems. I only got it to work by using a clean OEMAPPS pack from the official WM6 Palm ROMs, the moment I try to remove something such as Palm messaging, or if I add the necessary fixes, the Option symbol no longer boots in the correct order, even if I delay the boot by a specific amount of time. I will detail that later, how to manually make it work, and I will also provide full details in case someone wants to continue my work once I end development with Version 3.0. I will no longer pursue fixing this bug, as it's another of Palm's mistakes in trying to survive on so many little plugins when they could have consolidated their plugins to just the today plugins.(this took me 2 weeks!)

I can guarantee that the other bugs are fixed, including Real Bluetooth OBEX support, Keyguard really locks the screen, Speed Dial Advance tab can now be accessed, and other little things such as, I unlocked what appeared to be a hidden WM setting for Haptic Feedback, fully Treo compatible and will not break Keyguard, and my favorite surprise for WM6.1 fans: all these fun enhancements with no slow down of the OS, with 29.9MB of RAM free! Very exciting final ROM I have planned, hopefully released before this weekend as you can see, I have my Epix now, and have not had the chance to fully play with it, but WM6.1 testing is in it's final stages, and the last testing for Version 3.0 will be WM6.5.0.

I also wanted to add a really cool feature, making a Bluetooth Headset (the phone headset, not stereo headset) stream music. It would have been a really cool feature, using your headset to make calls, and at the same time enable it to play music, but unfortunately the Treo only has Bluetooth 1.2, I suspect I need Bluetooth 2.0 to make this feature work.

I will try to make these optional, user chooses their preference, but I still cannot get HTC Task manager to work properly. At least the newer ones, only the really old one from Dutty works on my Treo. I will look into that.

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I would also like everyone to check your Treo's, and go to Settings->System-> and tap the "About" icon, tap the "Phone" tab, and tell me your "Software Version", "Hardware Version", and just tell me if there is a number under "Serial Number" (you don't have to tell me the number). The reason why I ask is, I think my Version 2.5 ROM killed these settings, although I have hunch that the cause of my corrupted Phone info is due to my testing of "Device Info", that shortcut in other HTC phones, testing that destroyed that part of my phone so I cannot test some other things. Thanks.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toxic77:
Mate,

Found the problem with the square grid not showing up properly on you, I forgot to include it on the cab file also the bat indicator has been forgotten too.

I tried creating a cab file too but once the installation began on the 750 it just crashes, the best way is to include the 2 files in the rom.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
...

Okay, I'll look into it. Just a Q, you're on Globe too, is their internet working right now? Ever since this morning, I wanted to upload the WM6.1 ROM, but Globe was half dead, half working and extremely slow.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toxic77:
Nope,

I'm using PLDT DSL, Globe's connection is not reliable here at our area, cheers.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
I also got a nearly brandnew Palm Pro :D, just to think to sell my 750, but finally I gave it to my brother. Now I'm always ready to test your new rom :)

With Palm Pro, I have two question, hope you can help:

- Could you please guide me to setup "HTC's TouchFlo for finger-scrolling like WM6.5!!". Actually, I prefer 6.1 because it is not heavy, and I think 6.5 differs from 6.1 is only interface and finger-scrolling. I tried this on 6.1 but it didn't work for finger-scrolling http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2848472&postcount=182

- About power management to toggle on/off keyboard light, I tried your self-made cab but it wasn't successful at all.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toxic77:
Mate,

Transparent softkeys would be a good inclusion to your project too, had tried to use the transparent softkeys method but the needed hex address to be patched is missing on aygshell.dll.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
why dont' you use mediafire, it's rather good.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Hi guys, due to problems with my wireless carrier, I will only be able to upload WM6.1 probably tomorrow, as today is not good.

I removed TouchFlo from WM6.1. It's one of my surprises actually, my Version 3.0 WM6.1 ROM has finger-scrolling built-in, saving valuable RAM ;)

It's tricky. You need to first change your keyboard backlight using Option + P on your keyboard, once that is set, change your screen's brightness using the "Backlight" applet in "Settings->System->Backlight"

If my connection wasn't so bad, I would have liked to cook a ROM for your Treo Pro, that phone is just as easy to cook for as the Treo750. I noticed the chefs in the TreoPro forum have problems that I've been been able to solve on our 750's, maybe I can pass on a few tips to them. But I really want to cook a ROM for my Epix, it's a fun device.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
Hell, your are amazing.

I start to think of re-using 750 :D Actually, the only thing that I don't like in 750 is that when I make a call, connect or disconnect, it has a long "pause". For example, when I call to a wrong number of a guy, I find it immediatly, I reject, but it response too slowly, the wrong number did hear some rings on his phone before the rejection done. It do not happen with Palm Pro.

Can't wait to try the new "finger-scrolling built-in" ^.^

Yesterday, I got a 6.1 Rom with Manila 2D built-in, it worked well but the memory is not as good as 6.5 of Pro, 70Mb compare to 110Mb, don't know why??? When I installed all my necessary programs, it remains 50Mb, lot to go.

Lot easier if you cook a rom for your own device, I hope when u done with Epix, please have a serious look on Rom for Pro :D

---------- Post added at 06:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:10 AM ----------

Ur keylight soft is not working on Pro, 'cause when I use Option + P, it appear the same as in settings, including On battery power and On external power, the keyboard light still on :(
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] einsteinecker:
Let me see. With my Version 3.0 ROM, I tried to dial my wireless carrier's Customer Service hotline. After I pressed the Green button to place the call, I immediately pressed the Red button. There is no lag with this.

I will try later to place a call to another person (in this case my other phone ;)) and see how that goes.

Ah, you were trying to use that on the Treo Pro. I only tried that on my Treo750 :o The Treo Pro has different drivers, it acts the same way other HTC devices do. I'm not sure if that can be changed, but I think it can.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] toke07:
You rock! You are awesome!

Come on, post the link, please ;)