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[Epic 4G Android Development] ksmullins88:
ok but the directions say flash CWM3 then reboot into 2.x.x.x to do the back up and flash the no journals mod... so how will this even work??

i cant for the life of me figure out how to flash CWM3 then boot into a previous version
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
No disrespect intended, but your the one who said they didn't follow the steps but in all reality did. Randy_T has rewritten the steps three times plus written a flowchart for install to help everyone with the transition this rom needs due to its fundamental changes to the epic 4g. Your the one pointing the finger saying things are unclear. You also stuck your nose in and pointed at mysteryemotionz who is a well respected themer who decides to assist someone who had the eclair version of his theme get back on track. Luckily mysteryemotionz is more patient than me and was trying to let you come to this realization on your own. He's personally used the same method with me. Unfortunately, Me personally am a bit more direct and call it for what it is...

You say you don't need help then don't ask for a rewrite (which I provided) for you when you fail to understand what you read.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
I agree this part of the instructions is not clear but it says "oldest version" your oldest version is "CWM3" so that is the version you use. I did the same thing first time I flashed my phone back to stock and walked through the steps myself. I went into reboot recovery and next thing I saw was the samsung screen and my epic froze. I yanked the battery and then did a three finger salute. It brought me back to CWM3 and I continued the steps without issue. Don't worry it happens to the best of us.;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
If you have both installed (previously had CWM2 then installed CWM3):

First boot into CWM3.

Second, choose "Advanced"

Third, choose "Reboot Recovery"

That will boot you into the previous version of CWM (2.5.1.2 on mine, for example)

If you did not have a previous version installed, like was said above, you will not be able to do this.
[Epic 4G Android Development] razorseal:
I give up on this rom. I REALLYYYYYY wanted it to work....

after a day or 2, everything constantly FCs (I can't even use the phone) and then logsprovider does it and the phone becomes unusable...) 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 :(

I'll try nebula I guess
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
I guess I have failed to anticipate people who are reinstalling after applying the multi CWM version patch...

You are good. You now have one version. The instructions will get more simple going forward. 3.0.0.5 is your oldest (and newest) version. You can use that to do any further installs.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
Can you describe the process you are going through to install? I know I have not had any problems and as part of the dev process, have been inviting them. I know it will run with the FCs. Have you tried it before restoring your apps? Perhaps there is an app causing problems.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
Remove /system/etc/PowerOn.wav
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
There is a reason to apply the kernel patch.

It fixes the problem of multiple versions of CWM and gets us all on CWM3.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
Not sure if you got an answer to this yet...

Your install apparently failed. The version should show 1.1.4 when complete.

Regarding your second question, did you restore data from CWM?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
I don't have an answer to your question yet. I don't see any reason why we should not be able to format the SD card with Ext4 or any other filesystem format that is available in the OS. Would be a very bad app developer IMO that needed knowledge of the filesystem format.

Would appreciate anyone else sharing experience with this.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jerbeck24:
Love almost everything about this theme, one thing I miss from the 1.1.3 themed version is the themed launcher pro widgets...any chance of including that again at some point?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
If you have two versions of CWM on the phone, this is the expected behavior.

If you are on Bonsai 1.1.4, then you can flash the kernel patch we have posted and get rid of the multi CWM version issue.

Read the instructions in my sig if you need help.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MysteryEmotionz:
Let the haters hate as they will always hate. Just brush your shoulders off

Sent From Da Hood.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jaronow:
ahhhh, then all is good, thanks for the great rom and can't wait to see what's next
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
Just to make it clear regarding my style for writing instructions...

If you are installing some third party component (like CWM3) I assume that you follow the directions provided by that provider before returning to our Bonsai instructions.

Sorry they were perceived as "unclear", but I think I only succeed in making our instructions less clear by including detailed instructions for these other third party components.

Trust me, our goal is to hide as much of that complexity as possible in future releases. Need to get there one step at a time.

We've succeeded in removing some of that complexity with the recent kernel patch that now gets us to one version of CWM. Version 3. More to come...
[Epic 4G Android Development] razorseal:
I didn't restore any apps... well google did, but not via CWM or anything
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
You are missing some key steps by doing this by hand in adb. I recommend looking at the updater-script if you want to proceed this way.

The instructions do instruct you to install OneClickRootCWM3. We are moving to CWM3 with this ROM distribution and need to get away from the nightmare of supporting two versions of CWM. I've yet to see any zips offered that are not available in edify versions by now. Lots of active work to convert. And it is frankly trivial to convert these.

Let me know if you need help.
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
There is even a Update application here for noobs, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=903598 , I used it on a few zips already and the converted versions worked fine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
I'd recommend going to Menu->Settings->Privacy and turning off the auto sync and try again.
[Epic 4G Android Development] razorseal:
what does stock apps have to do with anything that google downloads?

everything has been downloaded and 2 days passes by then this happens....

what is logsprovider, that's the question.

same problem, another rom
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
Blue Market from google code page

@ Randy_T not sure if you or Mammon posted this file "extmod-market-2.2.7_pb2-blue.zip " but when I flash over 1.1.4 either right after install of rom or after booting and removing the apk and folders, clearing caches and installing after flashing the zip the rom never boots. It just gets hung on the boot animation, any ideas?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
A quick search on google suggests a number of things that may cause this with this just being a symptom.

The two things that seem to dominate are:

1. Running out of space on the disk. If your ext4-format_nojournal fails, this could cause disk to fill up with bad files.

2. Installing non-deodex'ed apps on a deodex ROM. One of the oft mentioned apps is mms.apk.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
I will remove it from our file list.

Thanks for reporting this
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
Where would these files be, also is there a way to check via adb if journaling is disabled or not?
[Epic 4G Android Development] razorseal:
hmm... that could be?

how can I run out of space though, with the no journal. perhaps not use it?

i'd have to odin back to DI28>DK28 to get rid of no journal, correct?

I just installed viperrom, i don't really like it
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
IF during the process of formating the filesystems and turning off journalling the file check process found errors, it will move the files to the lost+found directory under the mount point. /data/lost+found as an example.

I've written on both of these issues multiple times. Please search for the answers...
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
Searched tried, now this is what i get any help? I am using the syntax posted does not seem to like it.

D:\EPIC\OneClickRootCWM3>adb shell tune2fs -l /dev/block/stl9
* daemon not running. starting it now *
* daemon started successfully *
unknown option -- lBusyBox v1.16.2androidminimal (2010-03-28 22:34:51 EDT) multi
-call binary.

Usage: tune2fs [-L LABEL] BLOCKDEV

Adjust filesystem options on ext[23] filesystems

D:\EPIC\OneClickRootCWM3>adb shell tune2fs -l /dev/block/stl9
unknown option -- lBusyBox v1.16.2androidminimal (2010-03-28 22:34:51 EDT) multi
-call binary.

Usage: tune2fs [-L LABEL] BLOCKDEV

Adjust filesystem options on ext[23] filesystems

D:\EPIC\OneClickRootCWM3>adb shell tune2fs -l /dev/block/stl9
[Epic 4G Android Development] Damar1979:
going to give this rom a try
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
Going on 18 hours now with 25% left. This is insane, I didn't ever get battery life like this and when I got better than stock, the phone was practically unusable. Phone is as fast our faster than stock, no lag and I don't have to charge at work now
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Try this. tune2fs.ext4 -l /dev/block/stl9

Sent from my Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] us3rX:
*is lazy* Can someone link to odin and the dk28 file, also explain about reflashing to get GPS working? Other than that, love the new version 1.1.4. XD

Thanks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Here you go the thing Randy t wrote about earlier in this thread. I don't know if this is what you are looking for but I tried. Good luck

Sent from my Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Here's more

I think that Is what you are looking for formula84. It was way back in the thread. Took me bout 15 mins to find it. I didn't see any errors on my phone.

Sent from my Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
What version are u using is the the 1.1.4 and is it ext4 that u are running?
[Epic 4G Android Development] razorseal:
ok guys, what do I need to do to fix this, please help....
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
yes 1.1.4 and ext4.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
I've posted a new version of ext4-format_nojournal that is a bit more strict about the creation of these Ext4 filesystems. I recommend that you give that a try or wait for the next release of the ROM where we will be bundling all of this into a single package.

I have also taken another pass at making the install instructions a bit more clear. Hopefully that will also help keep people on the rails with this install. All required files are linked to that install page.
[Epic 4G Android Development] megabiteg:
The command has been replaced for tune2fs.ext4.

The correct way should be tune2fs.ext4 -l /dev/block/stl9

Sent from my Epic 4G powered by Bonsai4All 1.1.4 w/ EXT4 ROM
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Razorseal look at my previous posts. I got the :info from Randy way.back in the thread that tells you what to do about space.

Sent from my Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] MacrossActual:
an attaboy and a question

The work you guys are doing on this ROM is tremendous. I waited a long time (for me) before rooting & romming my epic, since I had been spoiled for so long by Cyanogen's work on the G1. I'm glad I waited because it looks like B4A is the answer.

Aside - my keyboard backlight flickers on at random intervals when the handset is locked with the screen off. I've found no cause. It started with 1.1.3 last week. Anyone else leave the KB open and notice occasional illumination? Obviously NOT a deal killer or even a battery killer that I've noticed. Simply odd.

(EXT4, CWM3, B4A1.1.4. nothing outrageous running.)

Keep on Keepin on, everyone! :)

-///
[Epic 4G Android Development] jaronow:
Flashed the new no journaling mod this morning and wow! Excellent work guys, my phone is even more responsive and feels much smoother overall
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
Do I understand correctly that you had flashed the previous ext4-format_nojournal-1.1.zip and are seeing improvement after flashing the 1.1.3 version that I posted?

Thanks for the feedback
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Yeah I want to know this as well. I don't feel like flashing the new one when my setup on my phone is perfect unless it makes a big difference.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jaronow:
Yeah it is closing and opening apps much faster as well as boot up and shut down, only at 68% battery from 4 hard hours of data the whole time and making calls and texts after doing a nandroid backup flashing the new journaling and then the rom and theme and doing a full nandroid restore..... Its just perfect
[Epic 4G Android Development] JungleJiujitsu:
Thanks for feedback, will also be flashing new no jorno mod later on....Randy_T, or anyone else who may know, just want to make sure that the kernel patch is still only for those that have moved up to CWM 3, correct? Being that Im still on CWM 5.2.1.2, I don't have to flash that, right?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
You could flash the kernel patch, but note that the end result will be that you are on one version of CWM. Version 3.0.0.5. That is the sole purpose of the patch.

I know we have said this before, but be aware that with the next release of this ROM, there will not be a choice of whether you are on Ext4 or what version of CWM. Bonsai version 2.0 will only support Ext4 and will migrate everyone to CWM version 3.0.0.5.

Mammon and I would like to make version 2.0 available sometime within the next two weeks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JungleJiujitsu:
OK, so selecting "reboot recovery" in CWM will no longer take us to CWM v2.5.1.2?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
That is correct. And 3.0.0.5 works just fine for flashing add-ons once there is only one version.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JungleJiujitsu:
Got it! Will flash it later on then, while flashing no jorno 1.1.3, being that its the direction we're heading, thanks for explaining!
[Epic 4G Android Development] robbie725:
confused new Epic noob

Just a quick question to help steer a noob(at flashing my Epic) in the right direction and give me piece of mind… I followed this link to root my phone and flash clockwork v3 http://forum.androidcentral.com/epi...-fix-rfs-ext4-now-w-clockwork-v3-0-0-5-a.html all worked well and I believe that this also set me up for ext4 and converted my system over… So I started to follow the directions here http://code.google.com/p/bonsai/wiki/Install to flash bonsai...

I get to the 1st step

BEGIN

Copy Bonsai4All_Leafless_v1.1.4.zip to your /sdcard/

Are you running stock DK28 or on RFS filesystem?

If Yes, goto RFS:, else goto EXT4:

Well I am not running a stock DK28 nor am I on a RFS system because following the android central link it converted my system to EXT4 I am assuming that it did anyway, but I proceeded to the EXT4 secition?

EXT4:¶

Copy the ext4-format_nojournal-1.1.3.zip to your /sdcard/

Copy the kernel-EXT4-RFS-Bonsai_v1.1.4.2.zip to your /sdcard/

goto BACKUP:

so I copied both files to my sd card… and proceeded to BACKUP…

BACKUP:¶

Reboot recovery to oldest version of CWM available, < 3.0.0.5 or < 2.5.1.2

Run Backup in CWM

goto FILESYSTEM:

well I am on clockwork 3.0.0.5 so this is not less than < so I just did a backup in CWM… I did not proceed to FILESYETEM because neither of the options there, in my opinion, referred to my situation correct? Anyway long story short all I did was flash Bonsai4All_Leafless_v1.1.4.zip file and that was it… do I need to 1st flash ext4-format_nojournal-1.1.3.zip then flash Bonsai4All_Leafless_v1.1.4.zip then should I patch the kernel…???? Confused at this part! :confused:

I mean the phone is working ok got all my apps back and everything just do it right and should I have done the ext4-format_nojournal-1.1.3zip then reflash the ROM and do the kernel patch...:confused:

I am not even sure this makes any sense... but thanks for looking anyway...

Peace

Robbie
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
Ok... so you found a bug in my instructions... I've made the change, although I wrote it as '=<' to avoid someone thinking they were arrows. :)

You should have gone to FILESYSTEM in this case as it would be good if you would run the Ext4-format_nojournal. It does some further tuning of the Ext4 filesystem that will improve performance. Not the end of the world if you don't want to do this now, but your phone will be faster if you do.

I'll be sooooo glad when this multi version CWM thing is behind us... :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] robbie725:
Randy_T thanks for the answer... I meant no offense at all if there was a bug in the instructions and you found it... it was purely accidental on my part.. just me being a programmer when I saw the < sign I only assumed I was already above the requirement...

so from this point I should:

apply the ext4-format_nojournal-1.1.3.zip

apply the Bonsai4All_Leafless_v1.1.4.zip

apply the kernel-EXT4-RFS-Bonsai_v1.1.4.2.zip

then finish up by restoring data...?

doing this should be ok to do at this point or not...

thanks for all the work that you do to make the Epic truly "Epic"

peace

Robbie
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
No offense taken. You were being a programmer when you read the instructions and I wasn't being enough of one when I wrote them. :)

You should be good with the above. Just make sure you still have the backup intact since the ext4-format_nojournal will wipe the disks again.
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
Applied ext4-format-nojournal.1.1.3. Then flashed Bonsai 1.1.4, then did nandroid restore. Seems more responsive. For example I use ADW Launcher and ussually after a reboot the 3d app drawer is slow to open and scroll the first time or two after rebooting. It was fast right away now! Folder Organizer folders open faster too. Apps "seem" to open faster too. But oddly enough "for whatever it is worth" my quadrant score us averaging 150-200 less.

I did a full restore instead of just data, so maybe thats why. Will redo later.
[Epic 4G Android Development] gzub:
A couple of observations...

vm.swapiness you set to 1 in my benchmarking, I think I am seeing better performance with 0...

Also you should also be able to provide a way to convert the partitions to no journalling without formatting using tune2fs -O ^use_journal (or something close to that) which is what I did for my cache and data partitions with no data loss during the conversion...

Keep up the good work, love that you are hosting it on code.google.com as I keep updating my Epic with your daily changes...

Geoff
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
I plan on using adw ex as my launcher, i read somewhere that having only one launcher reduced the number of core processes even if the other launchers aren't running. Not sure what this means, but since its all i plan to use, would it be okay to remove the apks from the zip prior to flashing?

I remember with 2.1 with EE Rom he said that removing TW launcher with SDX remover would cause sync issues with something, is this still the case with 2.2?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Top Nurse:
Ran the new Ext4 tool today and I can report it is most definitely snappier! Another thing I have noticed is that my usable memory is about 20Mb higher when Memory Booster Pro does its thing now. Used to get about 150 Mb and now I'm getting about 170 Mb.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
Geoff,

Thanks for the feedback. How are you measuring that performance change? My inclination is to go to vm.swappiness=0, but I cannot see much difference between 1 and 0 here. I admittedly need to learn a bit more about the device to see if we even have swap. I've seen no evidence of that. Value of 1 should keep everything possible in memory and allow it to swap when necessary. I'm currently testing at 0 to see if I can get a handle on it.

I am aware that we can tune some of these parameters in a non-destructive way. However, turning journaling off with tune2fs still leaves some of the bits in the Superblock for journal backup, etc. You can see that in the tune2fs.ext4 -l output. I am being a bit pedantic here about this, I realize, but not wanting to waste any bits for things unneeded and would like to prevent a tendency I am seeing for these settings to revert.

There are also some other parameters that we are setting like turning off ext_attr which once built and used, the parameter cannot be removed from the filesystem. So I've elected to "plow a clean field" before planting the ROM bits on top of it. As some have expressed, things "feel" faster.

So you are watching the commits eh... sorry about that mess I made the other day trying to get things organized a bit... :) <sheepish grin>
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Randy do you think its worth it to flash the new no journal mod? Is it showing alot more improvement over the old one?

Sent from my Evo Killer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] MysteryEmotionz:
So I used your new no journaling mod this morning. I've noticed a slight in crease in speed and how the phone feels. I did how ever loose 2-300 in quadrant but the phone does feel better. The only problem I did have was doing a data restore with cwm. I kept getting fc's on swype, gapps, logsprovider, dialertab. luckly I also back up my apps with titinaium. I used the new no journaling 1.1.3 and flashed bonsia 1.1.4 again. I restored the apps (no data) with titanium and all is well

Sent From Da Hood.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mattallica76:
I also noticed an increase in responsiveness but got loss of about 200 points in Quadrant. I didn't have any FC issues but I didn't advance-restore my data till after first boot.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jaronow:
Final updated on the new no journaling mod, after 6 hours of constant data use, downloading anime and surfing you tube/xda forum and then watching 60 min of 480p anime my battery hit 5% and I'm recharging it now to drain again before doing my first battery wipe/cal through clockwork. I just ran smart bench and got 1100 or so with 13 apps running and 1150 with a clean level 2 memory wipe, my old score was only 1080 or so with the old journaling mod...excellent work!
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
This is about the same as I noticed. I feel the phone is faster. Certain apps like Folder Organizer and ADW Launcher are faster, apps may open faster, maybe. But I lost about 200 on the Quadrant score. I have not experienced the FC's though. It seems I am at about the Quadrant speed I had when first going to ext4 FS before the no_journal mod was added. I noticed others are seeing the same drop. The phone feels great, so that is the main thing. But curious as to why the Quadrant score dropped.

I do notice something, when I launch into CWM 3.0.0.5 that I get a bunch of errors. Such as

"E:unkown volume for path [/data]"

"E:unkown volume for path [/cache]"

"E:unkown volume for path [/cache/recovery/command]"

"E:unkown volume for path [E/cache/recover/log]"

"Can't mount /cache/recovery/command"

"Can't mount /cache/recovery/log"

"Can't mount /cache/recovery/last_log"

Is this normal, or is something wrong? It seems to work ok other than the errors.

EDIT: Seems as if it is not normal. I went in to try to do some work in CWM and could not Install Zips or Backup or Restore. ODIN to stock and starting over.
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
Is it necessary to still apply the kernel-EXT4-RFS-Bonsai_1.1.4.2.zip after using the new ext4-format_nojournal-1.1.3.zip? It seems as if it would not be.....?
[Epic 4G Android Development] neuton:
I do not know if it was mentioned on here but when I installed the leafless rom w/o theme my back button worked just fine from contacts back to home on any of the launchers.

But after I added the theme now it does not work and I was using the bluetooth my contact screen was locked and I couldn't even go to home screen till I hit the talk button on bluetooth to intiate a call then the contacts unfroze