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[A7 General] Itaintrite:
Man, I wish somebody would come out and say if the 1+1 touch limit is hardware limitation or software. I've been waiting for this forever (since they announced the Compal tablet) and it would be a shame to just return it like this.
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
No luck here. Anybody else? I'm wondering if we're going to have to use that damn proprietary docking port for adb.

Billy
[A7 General] BertoJG:
That is disappointing. Let me know if you make any progress on this. My unit won't be here until Monday or so.
[A7 General] Elementix:
man...this thing comes pre-rooted and we already know how to get to the recovery. It's practically begging for a custom ROM...
[A7 General] Canadoc:
On the g tablet forum they have the nvidia updated driver performance pack. Maybe worth trying to install?
[A7 General] Elementix:
what exactly are you looking at? Have a link??
[A7 General] Canadoc:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=854682

Not sure if we can use this but they are updated tegra drivers
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Well, confirmation - the usb port isn't gonna work for ADB

I already sent a message to eLocity expressing my feelings about that and asking when/if a dock or cable is going to be available and how much more it's going to cost us to get.

Billy
[A7 General] necromonger89:
You guys should go check out the Advent Vega and Viewsonic G Tablet development here. The hardware specs are nearly identical on all three. Infact we have G Tablets running the Advent Vega build and vice versa. All custom ROMS too.

Search for Viewsonic G Tablet on the device search.
[A7 General] Elementix:
Couldn't we setup adb over wifi like on the nook? I know it's probably not a great solution because it'd only work when the device is booted, but just a thought...
[A7 General] mjposner:
Just got mine...wifi issues

Sent this to elocity:

After sleeping wifi fails to work so I have to completely reboot. Many others complaining about this issue. Will return unless fixed asap. Terrible flaw, makes device useless.

Anyone have a workaround?
[A7 General] Canadoc:
what special docking port?

thought there was usb hdmi and microsd?
[A7 General] akula11:
Found on BJ's website

I was researching BJ's return policy, and came across this a little lower than the normal return policy.

Holiday Return Policy

Unless otherwise designated as “Non-Returnable Items,” all merchandise purchased on BJs.com between November 1 and December 24 can be returned no later than the following January 24. Returned merchandise must be in new condition with its original packing and accessories intact or it may be subject to a restocking fee. Valid Return Authorization Number required.

This means we can have until January 24th to return if we cannot customize the issues being found.:D
[A7 General] xwint3rxmut3x:
I contacted BJs to return mine and i'm still waiting for a return authorization so I can get this thing out to them. The email said I'd get one between 3-5 days...I really hope that's a really conservative estimate. There's no reason I should have to wait that long to be able to send something back to them.

edit: update from bjs.com, they are waiting for the MANUFACTURER to release a return authorization number. This could get interesting.
[A7 General] hashbrown:
It has all those ports but the usb port wont support adb at the momment. You can install via microsd now which is what I'm doing till market is supported.
[A7 General] jazzbone:
return policy

I called BJs to verify return policy. She said that we have until January 24th. Also, if the item is defective, they will pay for return shipping. If it is just because you don't like it, you are responsible for shipping.

Sure wish there was something I could do to help with development, but I've never done this before...
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Yeah, hopefully. I'm working on that now.

Billy
[A7 General] Canadoc:
so u mean when u attach by usb the elocity to a computer it doesnt mount as a drive on your desktop?

is there somewhere in settings to enable?
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
It has those too, but there is a proprietary docking port on one side that eLocity says is for a dock that is not yet available.

You mean install apps? There are a lot of ways to side load apps. I've been uploading them to my personal server and downloading them from there, but you could also email them, put them on the SD card, do a bluetooth transfer, put them on a USB flash drive and plug that into the A7, etc, etc. Installing apps isn't a problem.

Billy
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Yes.

And no.

It looks like the USB port is HOST ONLY

USB Host mode could come in handy in the future though... it would just be nice if the cable was available for the proprietary port.

Billy
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Good find Akula!

Billy
[A7 General] xwint3rxmut3x:
Yeah, the only problem is if the Elocity team is handling the returns ( I suspect they were the ones directly filling orders) that this process may become a bit convoluted. I put in my return order yesterday morning. Will update when I find out how long it takes to receive my return authorization from the manufacturer.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-market-2-2-7-apk-released/

wonder if we could install this to get market?
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
They weren't. There was a distributor middle-man between eLocity/StreamTV and the retail distributors like Amazon and BJs. I don't know who it was or if they have any part of the returns, I just know this from pestering them for a ship date.

Billy
[A7 General] xwint3rxmut3x:
Either way, just saying it won't be as simple as sending it back to the retailer. All of us purchased the device from reputable places, that would make the return process a breeze. Now it may be kind of a pain the ass. "Pain in the ass level",from minor to can't sit for a week, yet to be determined.
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
I got adb working over wifi. Here's the instructions:

Type this in your terminal emulator on your A7:

setprop service.adb.tcp.port 2222
stop adbd
start adbd

Then check it with this:

getprop service.adb.tcp.port

If it doesn't return "2222", then do a "su" command and try again:

su
setprop service.adb.tcp.port 2222
stop adbd
start adbd

Then check it:

getprop service.adb.tcp.port

When it returns "2222" then run this command on your computer:

adb connect 192.168.0.151:2222

(obviously enter your device's IP address.)

And you should be connected!

To tell the A7 to listen for adb on the USB port instead of TCP again (which is kinda pointless right now):

setprop service.adb.tcp.port -1
stop adbd
start adbd

(again, might need "su" your your device)

And to tell your computer to use USB for adb instead of TCP:

adb usb

-Billy
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
It's worth a try! It's even for our resolution :D

Billy
[A7 General] clockcycle:
The BN Nookcolor is also 2 point touch, many EVO 4G came with 3 point and some with 5 point as examples.

Anyways point is the Nookcolor is able to play games and multitouch apps work fine on it, only having 2 (1+1) point multitouch.

-CC

EDIT: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9933133&postcount=197

3D Gameplay at Your Fingertip(s) [one finger at a time...]
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
No such luck. It installs, but it just crashes when you try to run it.

Billy
[A7 General] clockcycle:
Does turning wifi off and back on work, the BN Nookcolor sometimes has this issue and that resolves it.

-CC
[A7 General] Canadoc:
I am a noob to all this only having gotten a g tablet recently that is likely going back for this. I am not really sure what ADB is ir why we need it.

I know on the g tab i can plug the usb cable into my laptop and and then turn on the usb host or whatever and then see the folder on my desktop on my computer

is this what adb is for?
[A7 General] Canadoc:
with the gtab we have to run the market fix then reboot

basically you have to go into settings then to runnign applications and force close google framework services if they are there and the market.

Then you must have titanium back installed (free download just google it to find the company url) and superuser apk

Then in TB you scroll to google framework services wipe data from it.

Go back t market and it should kind of crash.

Reboot and hopefully once wifi is connected after a few miuntes launching it should work.

If there are no google framework services to force stop then that is the problem and we likely need to find a way to get that installed in our system section of root.
[A7 General] jazzbone:
out of space error

When I try to download something, I am getting an out of space error. It tells me to free up some space and try again, but I am unable to do so. I can't delete anything on the internal memory, like the movie trailer. Also, other than the trailers, I can't find what is taking up all of the memory.

I tried changing the download destination in the browser preferences to my sd card, (which has lots of space), but am still getting the same error.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
so you cant download an apk from a website?

do u have a flie manager installed?

I recommend es filemanager

With it u should be able to see what is on your device
[A7 General] Canadoc:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9908754#post9908754

This person installed it so it must be doable
[A7 General] anomaly876:
Second Thoughts

I order my elocity from BJ's yesterday and I'm currently waiting for it to ship, but after reading some of the posts today, I am starting to wonder if I should cancel my order and get the Viewsonic g Tablet instead.

I certainly don't mind the growing pains nor do I mind having to wait until elocity or the XDA community iron out the wrinkles but I'm concerned about the lack of multi-touch and how that can affect future app support.

My main question at this point is whether or not I should cancel my order, saving myself the return shipping and restocking fee and order the g Tablet for more money or should I stick it out.

Let me know what you think.
[A7 General] nisshi:
Use the touch screen buttons to show the menu.

Search is "UP", Back is "DOWN", and the home button is "MENU".
[A7 General] jazzbone:
Thanks, Canadoc. ES filemanager is nicer than the included one.

I still don't know where to look to find the "stuff" that has filled up my internal storage, though.

According to the SD card and device storage settings screen, I have 0.89GB of available space in Internal Device Storage.

So, why would I get an out of space error when downloading a small file (0.3MB)?

Edit: After rebooting, Dolphin Browser can successfully download files to my sd card. Getjar was using the default browser, which downloads to the internal memory. Still can't understand why I can't download to internal when I have 0.89GB space left on it.
[A7 General] nisshi:
Try installing Youtube app and login with your account using Youtube app first.

It will at least push you forward....
[A7 General] xwint3rxmut3x:
I was pissed off because Elocity told me their device was two point touch, when it has a single touch point input. Two points of touch is fine for me.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
I am still hopeful that this is 2 point but just not made to be in firmware. 2 reasons:

1)Compal Naz10 which this is a rebrand of is always mentioned as multitouch same for the aigo n700.

2)I have yet to hear of any other capacitve touch screen being single point in hardware before, including the much cheaper velocity micro tab. I think maybe in an effort to get this out they just did not get it working. I could be wrong however.

For my needs I dont think this is a deal breaker given the alternatives available now. Especially since a year from ow we will likely all be looking at a more mature nextgen device running whatever comes out after honeycomb.
[A7 General] xwint3rxmut3x:
Actually, check this out. When it seemed like the A7 might turn out to be vapor I contacted Aigo directly to see if they'd sell me the n700 in bulk or something. Turns out it hasn't passed FCC, so even though he'd love to have sold me some he couldn't, anyway back on track here. I went to the Aigo site and these are the specs on the N700

Item

Description

Solution

Qualcomm

600MHz application processor+400MHz communication and data processor, Double DSP (Digital signal processor), independent 3D picture processing accelerator

OS

Android

Android 2.1

UI

Freedom River

Display

Type

7 inch LED WVGA

Resolution

800*480

Touch panel

Capacity touch screen, support multi-touch

Memory

DDR2

512MB RAM+512MB ROM

G-Sensor

G-Senser

Built-in G-sensor module

Storage

Built-in capacity

N/A

Other Storage

MicroSD card up to 32GB (8GB as standard accessory)

Battery

Type

Lithium battery

Capacity

4250mAH

Working time

Call time：900min Standby time： 60days Music playback time：42hours

Video playback time：10hours

3G internet review time：10hours

LAN internet review time：10hours

Now, originally the n700 as well as the a7 were certainly rebrands of the compal naz-10, but based on battery capacity alone it doesn't seem like the production model n700 is. They're not super clear on the processor, so i'm not really sure if that's even a tegra anymore or not.

Goog-translated link to product page:

http://translate.google.com/transla...dfg&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivnsu

As for the compal device itself, it's nowhere to be found on their website, and initial impressions were about as in depth as the initial ones on the A7, no way to tell whether or not it had multitouch for sure.
[A7 General] DroidxRage:
We need to figure this out... I'm going to putz around with a few of the gapps installs and the likes... will report back if anything promising happens
[A7 General] BertoJG:
Thanks for working through this Billy.
[A7 General] xaueious:
Can someone just take a video of how the multitouch works by running the mulittouch test tool?

Is this a case of axis flipping? Or is it emulated software touch? I am still not clear on this.

The Archos has the most polished factory firmware out of all of them, so I still would recommend that to a certain extent. The price will drop on the Archos though. There's no doubt.

The Nook Color has a 800 MHz, which is plenty fast enough for flash (I have the 768MHz Liquid E). But this is all about getting it at the right price.

The A7 I think will be better than the Archos for the long term though. But it depends all on community support, which is not for everyone. The touchscreen doesn't really hold it back that much imo. The rest of the specs are impressive enough. It just means that this isn't the next gen device many were hoping that it would have been.
[A7 General] BertoJG:
My concern with the archos is the limited ram. It slows down after a few apps are running. :-(

Sent from my FrankenNook
[A7 General] DroidxRage:
I couldn't agree more... the archos lags down if you try to throw a couple active tasks at it. 256mb RAM just isn't enough to multitask like you would want to. With the archos i found myself longing for the laptop during decent multi tasking. The a7 chugs through whatever you throw at it.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
The Aigo device u quote is not what was originally released do google search for both devices u will find writeups and desription says multitouch for both.

I think neither were released to large market. I think strem TV saw an opportunity and got the same device rebranded elocity and have released in US
[A7 General] Canadoc:
I disagree about flash. I tried a Samsung galaxy Tab with froyo. went to a site where I usually watch video clips in flash. it choked and stuttered was like watchign a 5fp/sec movie. Same clip on the Gtab tegra 2 was a s mooth as on my main computer. SO while yes flash can run on lower processor it cant handle the video and normal frmae rates. It can probably manage flash adds though.
[A7 General] Itaintrite:
Compal only manufacturers devices to be rebranded as far as I know. And Aigo N700 isn't vaporware. I think they're already planning a 3G version, but Japan only. Just because it isn't released in the US. They even released some new screenshots of the customized UI, and it looks great. New hardware skin too.
[A7 General] xaueious:
Adobe Flash performance was one thing I neglected in my comment.

Still waiting for some sort of confirmation on the multitouch or lack there of?
[A7 General] Dexter_nlb:
installing one of the many multitouch apps , and you can confirm it without others help :-)
[A7 General] Bjake:
too bad...

so I have faith that the multi touch issue may be resolved but first and foremost the wifi issue is a killer. I mean, talk about not working out of the box. The need to reboot the device every time to get a wifi lock is absurd. Had high expectations for this tab but despite it being a little beast, these issues make it worse than the archos line...really hoping XDA devs / users can fix this because I dont expect elocity to do so.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
I wonder if this as related to the nvidia drivers. G tablet had the same issue until performance pack installed
[A7 General] jazzbone:
I haven't had any wifi issues with mine...
[A7 General] Bjake:
you are one of the lucky few. I'm trying a factory reset just to see if that helps the wifi issue in anyway.
[A7 General] eskaryo:
Has anyone played with the Dev Tools?
[A7 General] trinikartel:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=827209

Can someone post the stock apps apks that come on the device...i think i overwrote one too many :(
[A7 General] Elementix:
StreamTV says an update with fixes for the tablet will be released on the 24th in the downloads section of elocitynow.com. Hope they're right...although I do wish we could get Cyanogenmod on it soon.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myron317:
Hey All

I recently am having some issues connecting to a WPA2 Eneterprise wireless network after the recent (Nov) OTA update being applied to my current rom. I can connect to the network itself, but once successfully connected, I have no Internet connection. This is a school network that I have had no problems with in the past, successfully connecting with my Eris and Incredible before the update using Wifi Advanced Configuration Editor. I have internet on other devices at the same time (laptop, ipad, etc) I have been in touch with IT here and they assure me that nothing has changed with the network recently, but I don't hold much faith in that. Regardless, i figured I would pick your brains here as well, covering all my bases. More specific details of my device below. Thanks for your thoughts.

Droid Incredible 36100 (SLCD)

Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo (RLS4)

3.30.651.2

Kernel: 2.6.32.25-ck2

Baseband: 2.15.00.07.28

Network

WPA2 enterprise

PEAP

Auth=MSCHAPV2
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jdyates:
To be honest, i have no idea what i was doing, but i ended up with a 32A radio and SPL, and now my MyTouch 1.2 won't boot.

It WILL boot in fastboot and hboot

It WONT boot in recovery or regularly

I have tried "fastboot erase radio" (and erasing cache), i have tried the stock MyTouch 1.2/Fender "sappimg.zip" but none have gotten past flashing the Radio, it stops when the little red bar is about 97% full.

Tried logcat, but apparently it doesn't work in fastboot mode :-/

Can anyone help?

It is now at:

SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32A ENG S-OFF H

HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP31000)

CPLD-13

RADIO-6.35.16.19---->(won't change no matter what i flash)

Jun 2 2009, 17:27:03

Fastboot USB
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jdyates:
EDIT:

Ok, now when i try booting regularly (or just pop the battery in) the phone shows the bright green "MyTouch3G" screen, but with the words "FASTBOOT USB" in the uppermost left-hand corner, where the word "SAPPHIRE" would be in normal fastboot mode.....really weird. SERIOUSLY hoping someone has an idea....
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jdyates:
BUMP: Guys, this is really urgent. I have been searching all over XDA, Google, and the CM forums, but haven't found any procedures that work. This thread has been up for almost 17 hours, and has 69 views (lol) but no replies.

This is REALLY urgent, and I am trying to be as calm as possible, so i can get some help.

PLEASE post any ideas you may have.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DonJuan692006:
Are you seeing anything on the screen besides "fastboot USB"? It really sounds like you messed with it until you REALLY got it hosed. Does your computer still recognize the phone by running "fastboot devices" in ADB?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jdyates:
Yeah, computer recognizes fastboot, i can flash everything EXEPT radio. That's the problem. When i try to flash a radio ".img" file, the second (RED) progress bar gets stuck right before it finishes flashing, and stays like that until i pull the battery, when it says "Flash FAILED (too many links)" or something like that.

Is it possible i damaged the radio partition or something? Can it be repaired?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DonJuan692006:
Please answer the other question.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jdyates:
Well actually, now it shows the regular MyTouch slashcreen, not "Fastboot USB" at the top anymore. And I'm talking about a regular boot. Like i previously said, fastboot works fine except flashing a radio.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DonJuan692006:
OK, so what are you showing when you boot into fastboot? Do you have a working goldcard?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jdyates:
Yes, i have a working goldcard, and at the moment, the phone shows:

SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G

HBOOT-1.33.0013---->Stock Fender SPL

CPLD-13

RADIO-6.35.16.19

Oct 21 2009,22:33:27

Thanks in advance for all your help, bro.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] DonJuan692006:
Alright, think I know what you did wrong. You need to reflash the sappimg that got you here:

SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32A ENG S-OFF H

HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP31000)

It may fail trying to update the radio because it's the same version you already have. If you get back to S-OFF, then try flashing the radio.img from fasboot. If it work your good to go, just need to finish flashing everything. Remember, flash in the following order (after getting back to S-OFF):

radio

hboot

recovery

Let me know what happens after you try flashing the sappimg again.

If you need anything you can get them from here:

sappimg.zip for myTouch 1.2 only

radio.img for myTouch 1.2 only

hboot.nb0 for myTouch 1.2 only

Amon Ra 1.7.0-G Recovery
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jdyates:
TBH, I flashed the 32A SPL and Radio separately, it wasn't the 2010 that got me the 6.xx radio.

I'll try anyway, thanks.

EDIT: Ok, flashed back to the 2010 Engineering SPL, and tried to flash the "radio.img" first (using RadioSwitcherGUI v4.1), and got:

flashing "radio"- PLEASE WAIT

"radio" flash- FAILED

and with Fastboot:

Sending radio....OKAY

(and gets stuck on..) flashing radio............

At this point the phone is sitting next to me frozen trying to update the radio, but the red status bar froze right before it finished.

I've tried wiping the radio partition, and all other partitions (except the "bootloader" partition, even I'M not that stupid :P), and tried it again, but it froze again on the red status bar, in the same spot.

(In case you dont know, there are two steps, a GREEN status bar, showing fastboot uploading the "radio.img" file to the phone, and the RED status bar, showing its progress with the flash).
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jdyates:
BUMP: (see update above)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] jdyates:
EDIT:

Ok, my mom decided to call T-Mobile and get me a replacement device, and apparently they ran out of MyTouch's, so they are going to send me a free Motorola Cliq (SWEET, physical keyboard!)

I do have a question though, is it safe to send it back with fastboot saying a different SPL and Radio version than it shipped with? or should i erase all partitions? :D