yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Tablet General] rclui10:
never mind, just turned green :) FYI thought for anyone wondering it took about 3 hrs for mine to get the green light.
[G Tablet General] terrypchan:
I missed out on this thread as I was traveling. Would some kind soul verify that the $349 price is still valid today, Sunday? There were one or two posts in this thread conflicting with the original Friday and Saturday only. So before I make the drive in this snowstorm does anyone know for sure if the advertised price is still good today? Thanks in advance!
[G Tablet General] jamesgf:
Thanks for the info, mine has been charging for 2 hrs and still red, I was going to ask the same thing.
[G Tablet General] cshehan:
I would call your local store. I called 2 different stores yesterday and both said it was Friday and Saturday only, but only after I asked them to actually check the in store price. The website and phone based pricing both still showed $399.99. When I got to the store the sales guy had no idea they were on sale. The price on the display said $379.99 but it rang up at $349.99.
[G Tablet General] laffer98:
Thanks, I got my $38 back yesterday!
[G Tablet General] dkhilo:
Glad it helped! Bought mine too early so over 30 days, but no matter I needed it to be $399 to get the one year interest free. ;P
[G Tablet General] psycotix82:
I got mine for 379.99 on Wed night.............hopefully theyhave more deals coming up insocal!!!!!!.........rooted and load tent lite 2.2.0 the moment I got it!!!!
[G Tablet General] original G:
Just got mine yesterday for 380 as well. Tried/wanted to play with stock for a few days but just couldn't. TNT 2.2.1 locked and loaded. Why the heck didn't VS just go with vanilla android? If they did they'd have the best tab out there right now. Hardware is rock solid.
[G Tablet General] qipengart:
Too bad they don't sell this at Best Buy yet.
[G Tablet General] tyy10002:
maybe, all of us should send Viewsonic the same email telling them to use the tnt lite instead of the full TNT...

Anyone knows the product contact info? person name or email?
[G Tablet General] satishraman:
I got my $32 back from sears in California this Saturday.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
I know Best Buy folks. They would NOT put up with the return rates and would be very aggressive in seeking compensation and stopping further sales for the product..... maybe that is why Best Buy is not selling it in the first place? ;)

Best Buy would JUMP to sell, if had a stable 2.20 and all of the goodness created by devs at XDA :) Good out of box experience equals less customer service and handling costs ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] apocalypt:
hallo,

I agree in the next meet a LG GT540 with 1.6 version. How I can install the APPs. Which programs I need and how I must go forward. :confused:

would be grateful for every help :o

thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] apocalypt:
Hallo, is anywere here in this Board to help me ??????????
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] m4nu4l:
Hey, i dont understand what you actually want from us, youre english is terrible, but you can try asking in GT540 forums.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=773
[Epic 4G General] prodigyplace:
The DK28 software that was distributed to the Version 4 Epics by Samsung & Sprint contains a Linux kernel that is licensed under GPLv2.

According to the GPLv2 license, the source code must be offered & available to hose who received the kernel. Since previous sources have appeared on Samsung's site, I will assume they are assuming the licensing responsibility for distribution.

Since the source for the DK28 Linux kernel is not available, GPLv2 says that Samsung cannot legally distribute the Linux kernel, which makes DK28 warez.

The XDA forum rules say,

Since the Linux kernel in DK28 cannot be legally distributed without the source being available, all DK28 kernels need to be removed from the XDA forum due to its status as illegally distributed.

Samsung needs to negotiate with the Linux copyright owners before they can legally distribute the kernel. Posting the sources later does not reinstate the license.

(If Linux used GPLv3, all Samsung would need to do to be legal would be to release the source code.)

See http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html for more information on GPLv2.
[Epic 4G General] leatherneck6017:
prodigyplace == troll?

Troll somewhere else....TROLL!!!

reported
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Pretty sure they have 30 days. Also, Samsung did not distribute this at all, it was obtained in a non-approved manner.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
I'm lost as to why you would want dk28 roms taken down, in response to what you're saying is a breach on sammys part...? I have much respect for open source, but it seems like the anarchy police make more problems with retentively adhering to the brotherhood of steel codex. Sorry, too much fallout lately. But I'm pretty sure the xda admins have looked over the legalities considering all the press they have gotten. Besides, can the cooks be faulted for tinkering with something THEY never got source on?? Thought I read this debate a while back... anyways, I think the spirit of open source is so that more people develop and we all get better software....?
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
Sounds like this is typical in linux land... either that or an evo owner...
[Epic 4G General] flash_c4:
I completely agree. This is what we refer to at work as "Poking the bear".
[Epic 4G General] jeffyv2:
Funny ****

Troll be gone!

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
welp, id better download it fast before they pull it.not.
[Epic 4G General] Mushmaster:
People calling this guy a troll are fools. You might disagree with him but his argument has reason.
[Epic 4G General] johnsongrantr:
yes troll would give him more credit than he deserves....

he's an intelligent moron... pm a mod if you think it is illegal, buy a lawyer and sue samsung if you feel your rights have been violated... other than that you're crying on deaf ears
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
I have a sneaking suspicion this is a previously banned former member, disgruntled, back under a new ID simply trying to stir the chit.

I'm just sayin'...:rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] skeeterslint:
They would have to release source code if this was a public release since DK28 is an internal beta that got leaked I don't believe that releasing source code applies.
[Epic 4G General] rhca50:
Technically, it's a question of distribution... since they distributed it to owners of .4 hardware, whether testers or not, whether on purpose or not, those receivers of the OTA are legally entitled to the source code. Samsung has a "reasonable" amount of time to comply... and 30 days is generally considered reasonable.
[Epic 4G General] daveshow:
Prodigy I agree with you. Basically the people who disagree with statment. Get some glasses and read the licence yourself. If you want a microsoft world go get a windows phone. From all the posting I see about dk28, there is nothing about who created the kernel. The gpl licence is there to proctect you as a indivdual, so next time you rant or rave about infomation like this. You will only have yourself to blame in the future.
[Epic 4G General] sensor32:
Any assumption of an assumption is an endless pool of BS
[Epic 4G General] Top Nurse:
OP: Thanks for looking out for our welfare. :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Every argument has reason...it just might be the wrong reason.

Just in case it is just a "trolling" attempt, though...
[Epic 4G General] J31Rob:
Wow.. you guys consider this a troll? I'd madhouse over here if I didn't frequent the foroum for advice.

If it were me.. I'd be asking you guys when Gingerbread would be released for my iPhone 4.
[Epic 4G General] jok3sta:
wow.. really?? Its either people complain about not getting leaks or they complain when a leak is out. smh you cant win..
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Don't they have two weeks to release the source?
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
Wonder...do you have doccumented commits to a public repository? Or case in point,the source of our dk28 kernel. If not you cant legally do anything.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Samsung did not release this, so this issue is closed.

This is iirc clear in the GPL policy anyway, where manufacturer releases aren't applicable (being as it would stifle development)

CLOSED
[Wildfire General] hotchick:
I put the OpenFire rom onto my wildfire today and I am trying to load a flash page but it says I do not have flash. When I go to the adobe flash player download page I click on download and it says "the requested file could not be found"..

I downloaded and installed this file Adobe Flash Player 10.1_10.1.61.68.apk but have had to uninstall it because it caused the browser to crash it wouldnt even load google.

Any ideas please?
[Epic 4G General] codkill:
My epic is on the stock rom, just rooted. I have made no changes to the phone and the only recent changes were installing winamp and the market update. All of sudden the media scanner, at startup, never finishes and hangs until I force close it. My apps won't update, they download but hang at installing and after several reboots there is no change. The phone randomly makes the sound of lost signal twice in a row as if it looses signal and then finds it again right away even though I have full bars and this has never happened before. Also, CacheMate hangs until i force close it when I tried to clean out the cache to see if that would fix the market issue I was having. So out of nowhere, the market issue (apps not updating), media scanner hanging, and apps not working. Im just hoping that either someone knows what this could possibly be cause from or if im just going to have to hard reset my phone. I do have a backup from clockwork, but unfortunately it is quite old and I might as well just reset everything if it comes down to that. Thanks for the help.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hamspiced:
im having odd issues with texting..

On using either the standard text app or handcent.

-When i open the program it takes 10-20 seconds to load.

-Clicking on a thread sometimes results in a completly different thread to open

-Sometimes threads take upwards of 20-30 seconds to open.

-When a text is received it takes 10-15 seconds to be able to reply or even use the phone.

Ive tried reflashing, wiping dalvik.

Fresh 3.4.0.1

Netarchy 2.6.32.15

PRI 1.77_003

PRL 60671
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] austineasleyinfo:
Do you have a bunch of text history on your phone? I found that if I have a bunch of stored texts, it slowed down the messaging app.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hamspiced:
Yeah, i nearly never delete my texts. why should having a bunch of text slow down the program. this seems like something that should be resolved...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BonkyMoon:
That sort of thing is a problem on pretty much every phone. If you want to resolve it, clear out some texts. If you think about it, it makes complete sense why it slows everything down. It's because the messaging app tries to load as many messages into memory as it possibly can, since it doesn't know if you're gonna go and try to look at an SMS from forever ago. Just like having a bunch of crap on your computer slows it down, same thing with a smartphone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teh roxxorz:
Sounds like the cache is gigantic...clear the cache from the applications menu, or delete some messages.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hamspiced:
think of it this way.... we are carrying a flaghip phone for a company who is in the running for dominating the market. The average user does not delete their texts nor would they know how to.

This is an issue regarding both cache and application.

the resolve for this would create a simple script to archive texts for each user and archive each user past a page.

If indeed it is of course a text issue.

Deleting texts is for cheats and whores. i save all of mine to throw it in their face.

or is it more of an issue that the sprint developers cannot find a legitimate reason to push the text msg file to the sd card to help quicken the phone.

prior to me using an android based phone, texting was my addiction. Now, its a hassle. in the age that twitter and fb status breaks free, dont you think txts should be common place?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BonkyMoon:
No, you should be using trillian or google talk by now, texting is for children.

You should write HTC a strongly worded letter for them to fix this outrage that every other smartphone ever has.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hamspiced:
i dont want to port my number to GV i like having two seperate numbers as it is.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sluzpuppet:
Hi All

Weird one which im hoping someone may know what to do.

Last 2 days I havent been recieveing emails. Previously working flawlessly.

When syncing emails it sais it completes yet I know there is emails there. It is always stopping at the one email.

Settings I have set on it for the email account are

IMAP

Send/Recieve last 3 days emails

Check every 15min

Download 5kb text only

I connected to debug to see if there was any indication and this it what it spits back

12-10 08:41:01.189: ERROR/RequestController(650): java.lang.NullPointerException

12-10 08:41:01.189: ERROR/RequestController(650): at com.htc.android.mail.server.ImapServer.processFetchHeader(ImapServer.java:3614)

12-10 08:41:01.189: ERROR/RequestController(650): at com.htc.android.mail.server.ImapServer.fetchHeader(ImapServer.java:3400)

12-10 08:41:01.189: ERROR/RequestController(650): at com.htc.android.mail.server.ImapServer.refresh(ImapServer.java:1287)

12-10 08:41:01.189: ERROR/RequestController(650): at com.htc.android.mail.RequestController$MainRequestQueueThread.run(RequestController.java:570)

If I set the download to last 1 day it works and pulls the new emails.

Any suggestions?

using HTC Desire with telstra ROM Version: 2.26.841.2

Sluz
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] indithegeek:
I was wondering if it were possible to take a Verizon android phone to Sprint and activate it? I know that if I take it to the Sprint store they wont do it but what if tried doing it online?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thoughtlesskyle:
No

Even if you did get them to activate it (unlikely) you wouldn't be able to program or provision it for sprint

sent from my twopointtwo themed hero
[Wildfire General] bang bang boom:
www.gsmarena.com/htc_legend_froyo_update_starts_rolling_out_wildfire_comes_next-news-2132.php

Hopefully soon
[Wildfire General] krazykat:
Agreed. Hopefully sometime next week prior to the holidays! Taking way too long on this!
[Wildfire General] bang bang boom:
I hope its before new year as if it isn't I will have to get rid of My wildfire... By the time 2.3 comes it will be too far behind :(
[Wildfire General] phunctionist:
I hope that by the time Froyo for Wildfire gets here, people start paying more attention and learn to search for topics. For crying out loud, the topic was on the same freakin' page....
[Wildfire General] pazirez:
OFF:

Yes, this is right!!

I saw this question and similar posts for a lots of time ....

Everybody asking this, all over again :S

I hope Froyo is coming, and this stupid questions dissapears.. .

Nop ... after that, everybody will asking Ginger... :D

sry bad english

/OFF
[Defy General] DarkVasyaK:
I know it's a bit strange question but I have no idea which phone to buy - Motorola Defy or DHD :) It seems that defy has even better processor than DHD or equal. And the price differs so much!

I don't really need that anti-water protection and so on, but after reading some reviews, it seems like Defy is just a great great phone for its price! Is it comfortable to hold in hand? Could you please say some words about it, I will really appreciate it :)
[Defy General] aikidoka90:
The two are very good phones... desire HD has 4,3" screen amoled, 8mpx camera, and it has froyo, and in the future 2.3 It has too 768 MB RAM and his processor is better than the defy´s that is secure...

Desire HD is more powerfull... if you like this, and its not important for you that it is a little big... this is your phone.

Defy is very cheaper, and is very more resistance.
[Defy General] ZootHornRollo:
its a bit like compairing a BMW with a Ford. They both do the exact same thing... get you from A to B. The Beemer just does it with a bit more panache. You need to decide if you can justify the extra cost.

The Desire HD is a premium phone with a bigger and better screen, better CPU, more RAM, better OS.... etc etc.

The Defy is very good value for money but it has cloth seats, not leather. It is a very good phone in my opinion and offers a better bang for your buck. It will do everything (almost) that the Desire does, the Desire HD does it just a little better.
[Defy General] zuz242:
as i will be replacing my touch hd (blackstone) within the next month i´m also considering both the dhd and the defy.

the only plus for the defy is it´s outdoor use: long-living batteries and water-resistantance. as i expect to undergo longer hiking trips next summer a dhd which lasts bearly a day without recharging is a bit of a plotstopper.

but it is just nicer and .. bigger. i love the display, here web browsing is fun!

so i still have a tough choice to make ..
[Defy General] trickyhenry:
I had the dhd and although its nice the speaker is awful. You can't hear the ring when its in your pocket. This for a premium media device is very sad. The sound quality is very tinny. Speaker is very important to me.

The defy is also ready for dropping or a bit of rain. I got bored of treating phones with such care.
[Defy General] DarkVasyaK:
I prefer vibro mode, so I don't care about how loud is the speaker :)

Could you please compare some staff like sound quality with headphones, overall performance, GPS, camera, and so on?
[Defy General] Jt612:
as it's pretty relevant to this topic and only slightly a thread ninja.

how does the defy hold up against just the normal desire? the defy actually appears to preform better(with launcher pro) so really what the desire has on it is better firmware support (being already 2.2) and not having this speaker problem

so really the defy for me is $11 dollars cheaper per month then the desire or the same price as the wildfire... what would you pick?
[Defy General] scrannel:
Yeah, yeah etc., etc... Well I have

this

BMW and I love the idea that I can chuck my Defy in my sleeve pocket etc. no matter the weather. I'm thinking of making a holster for it on my snowboard.
[Defy General] SteveChou:
nice moto nice defy
[Defy General] trickyhenry:
So camera, screen, sound via headphones, camera are better on dhd. More likely to get gingerbread quicker. Dhd has faster processor. Dhd has sense. 4.3 screen.

Costs more.

Defy has better speaker, ruggedised.

GPS same.

Its a question of what you need or want not which is better.

Defy is a great mid range phone

Dhd is a great top end phone with a very poor speaker.
[Defy General] Le_Poilu:
Hi

Just a little mistake here.

DHD a LCD screen, no AMOLED, even not SLCD i though
[Defy General] senergy:
Dont worry about the price, buy a phone for what you want. I bought the defy purely for its smaller size and weatherproof. Its a gps on my mtb bike and motorbike and doesnt look like a tablet when held up like a phone...
[Defy General] Sorensiim:
The DHD has that big, beautiful screen going for it. The Defy has the same resolution hidden behind Gorilla Glass and at least twice the battery life. Had a regular Desire before I got the Defy and boy I sure don't regret making that switch! I never have to worry about my phone again, like when I was using Nokia dumbphones and featurephones :)
[Defy General] Sh4gr4th:
I had the same decision to make

. I am a big fan of HTC and their phones but I went for the Defy after holding the Desire HD in my hands. It is just too big, does not feel comfortable.

The other really big pro has been already mentioned: battery runtime ftw!

The water resistance is a nice plus for me, which I hopefully does not have to test (even though I already lost two phones because of water damage).
[Defy General] aikidoka90:
I was wrong, and you too xD

According to I´m reading desire HD has a SLCD screen... the defy yes, it has only LCD screen. But this is not very important to me... You only see the difference if you compare them next to each other...

Thanks for point my mistake, I thought than DHD had Amoled screen, but seems that samsung can´t fabricate Amoled screens to all...
[Defy General] Step666:
No, it's just a standard LCD, not S-LCD.
[Defy General] crazyVII:
thanks!

hey guys,

just wanted to say thanks for this discussion ... i own a hero :=)) great phone, but somethings wrong with the 2.2 roms.. they got battery drain when screen is on (also read launcher pro can cause, but not verified.. but will check it with my DEFY)...

i ordered (DEFY) the phone today, and also wanted to say (owned a DHD for 1 week, but provider had bad signal strengths so i redigned...) ...

i really loved the DHD because it was a pleasure to hold it in my hands :=) but personally after bringing it back, 2 days over.. it thought it has also been the right decision because it's just too big. like mentioned above, mountainbiking, running, everything critical, slip one time. and the phone is gone. that's for sure.

so... :=) for now i've been engaged ;) with HTC, blackstone (touch HD - winMo) before - great phone, htc hero now... (also great phone..) - DHD shortly--- (tooo big) -- now a Motorola DEFY... i'm really exited how everything will be.. but :=) i've found out that everything of HTC Sense can be replaced by something similar (some even better)... so I'm really looking forward to use my DEFY with launcher PRO + snowstorm (perfect weather widget) ... :=) and I'm sure I'll get happy.

Just hope the performance rulez it all :=) (read that the 800mhz processor is quite compareable with an desire 1000mhz processor.. some experiences?)

maybe also SetCPU useable?

I'm exited guys :=) and just wanted to say thank you for your nice discussion (was really interesting to read) .. and it became quite a text .. just for saying thanks ... :=PP

best regards :D

greets,

mike :D
[Defy General] Jt612:
telstra aye? I'm right to assume that you are Australian yes? waht kind of bloatware/extra apps does telstra jam on the defy? also is it all black?
[Defy General] senergy:
Yes im australian, and yes telsta put a bit of bloatware but its nowhere near as bad as blur.

Yea its all black
[Defy General] Jt612:
Cool how long have you had it?
[Defy General] irv777:
Hi, I'm on Telstra as well and had mine for about a week. As you can see on my signature, i had the original desire and that was not a good phone to me anyways. I had a play with the dhd at the 3/voda store and it was way too big for me and the sound quality of the speaker is softer than the original desire. The desire to me had an awful speaker quality already as someone mentioned it on the 1st page of this thread. It sounded squeeky and its like coming out of a tin can. The defy was more louder and had a bit more bass to it. The only downside to the defy is the camera quality, no HD recording and web browser does not support full flash websites. Hopefully froyo will take car of these issues. Overall the defy is nice to hold, very compact but still a good screen size. Reception is excellent on Telstra compared to the desire. Call quality was very very good too.
[Defy General] DarkVasyaK:
finally got the Desire HD, a bit disappointed, expected it to be more comfortable to hold in hand... even with my large hands...
[Defy General] trickyhenry:
Cold, large and delicate? Can't hear it ring when in your pocket?

That's what I felt.