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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Bieka:
Hey there,

it seems I'm doing something wrong. I want to test the NAND Version and so i downloaded the NBH and the Modules from today. I also downloaded the newest Package of the android haret version and extracted it to the sd card. So as usual i got an andboot folder with zimage, system.ext2, rootfs.img and modules. I deleted the old modules file and replaced it with the one from the first post.

I flashed the NBH and after it is completed I restarted the Rhodium and saw what happens. Now the Green HTC Logo on white background appears and after a few seconds a double vibration as in haret appears. Than the display fades to black and the phone performs a reboot. What is it, that i'm doing wrong? It seems to me that something is missed, but what? Any idea?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Lmiller1708:
You need to also update the Rootfs from the first page. :)

Then it seems the backlight control works better when it is set to auto. You might have to hit the end buttons a few times but it will work... :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Bieka:
I use the rootfs from 1st page. Only thing i've done is to rename it to just rootfs.img...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
No, you'll probably brick it. This is RHOD only at the moment... Sorry.

AFAIK, Android doesn't work on the HD mini via haret, what makes you think you can flash it? Oo....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] sean1197:
if someone can rar up the whole install package for me ill test the build as it wont let me download it from the site........
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mcnutty:
There are some more big fixes on the way from ACL, so I'll wait for those and then create one huge package like reefer does.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] sean1197:
ty man. Anything to help the devs out :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mcnutty:
Yeah, basically since we tried adding auto-backlight and real panel power on/off to NAND, we have had a lot of issues. Haret usually pulls this stuff in, but NAND doesn't have that luxury.

The nice part about the NAND project is that ACL is developing code that runs natively using the hardware calls instead of relying on data pulled in from haret. This benefits both the NAND project and the Haret project as both get a better code base.

That being said, I will be updating the first post to emphasize how experimental this is, and maybe make it a little easier for those who are truly interested to test it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SurfGuruJeff:
I started with Task29 and now the phone will not boot, just sits at TouchPro2 intro screen.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] thomas d:
This is because you wiped the rom clean. Now you have to put it into bootloader by hitting the power button, volume down button and reset button all at the same time. At this point you should see blue, green, red, and i think white. After this just flash the custom ruu like you normally would and you will be good to go.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SurfGuruJeff:
Yeah, I did that. Now I have been trying to get NAND to work.... it's been going through

mdp irq already on 4 4

mdp_dma : busy

^^^ that for damn near 20 minutes now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] thomas d:
do you have the right modules with the .nbh?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] SurfGuruJeff:
Yes. I renamed 20101214_173248-RHODIMG.NBH to RHODIMG.NBH, put that on the root of my sd card, flashed it.

I put the Modules file from the same folder (20101214_173248-modules-2.6.27.46.tar) in andboot.

Got the current system.ext32 file from the Wiki page

Got the rootfs file from the link on the first post.

I tried renaming the modules file to just modules-2.6.27.46.tar

still does the same thing.

before the "mdp irq already on 4 4" stuff it says

"INFO: task rpcrouter:15 blocked for more than 120 seconds"

it keeps saying that every 120 seconds
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ksper6986:
same thing here
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] eightorzz:
So is there any hope for nand running on a GSM device? i would rather have it boot from nand rather than have to kill windows with haret... i mean gen.y is nice and all but a straight boot from the nand would be insane.. most likely less problems if anything was left over in memory from windows?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Germypan:
thanks for the answer. i hope all in acl mind :D i can test his android's hack. when you have a beta i'm here!

Germy
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] emc02:
Hi!

I am currently using GBX0A xdandroid on my DIAM100 and its very good and stable, only things missing are gps and bluetooth.

The other thing is the speed. I know, that are old devices with poor memory, and then you even can't use the whole RAM when booting from WinMo with haret.exe

Are the NAND-builds better (faster, more stable) and is there more usable RAM for android than in the other builds?

What is the advantage, except of never seeing the Windows Logo again :-)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Lmiller1708:
First your DIAM100 will not be able to Flash to this NAND... This is for RHOD's only. :)

Second as for the speed... I have not really noticed too much of a difference yet. The system builds are mostly the same, but because of the kernal seem a bit stabler IMO. We are behind haret now quite a bit... Still no camera, and some other recent haret additions, [ACL] is working his ass off at getting this up to date, so if you want to motivate him a bit more... Here is his Donation Link. :) He is currently working on LK so it will take a bit longer for the updates. The battery life sucks compared to Haret too ~6 hours...

But Overall NAND is better! Because you don't have to boot back to winmo ever again!!! :) My wife has been running it on her TP2 now for weeks with hardly no issues at all!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jeffgarret:
I agree even though we are behind on the feature set and battery NAND is now giving be better stablity. Before I dropped the phone on the carpet and the battery fell out it had been up without a reboot for at least 4 days. Never got past one day with SD card or nand before.

Haven't had to see WM at all for a week now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ryannathans:
Is there currently anyone working on GSM, if so, are you able to tell us who? I would like to get involved with some pre-public testing if possible. Then, as soon as NAND is out 'working' on GSM, I will cook up some builds ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
On the PPCG thread, Nate has some suggestions for GSM folk. But I don't think anyone is actively working on NAND for GSM - Neopeek is on and off, and stinebd helps test....

Other than that it's you buddy. Help 'em out, they could use someone with a GSM device to pitch in!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] m2maynard:
what is the ppc geek thread? I have a tilt 2 (rhod300) and would be willing to test etc.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Perhaps on PPCG? I know, it's really hard to find in that TP2 Android Development section... :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] m2maynard:
Thanks for the link. In some cases it is nice to have specific link to point to instead of a general "find it under a thread on PPCGeeks Rhodium area". So I appreciate it. As well as your feedback on most of these Rhodium Android threads. I was a frequenter of PPCGeeks early on in it beginnings when I was with Sprint (CDMA) but have migrated over to XDA due to having ATT (GSM) now.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mcnutty:
Thanks arrrghhh. I'm trying to help out with GSM if I can, but nothing I've tried has worked properly yet.

That being said, can I get a GSM user to test this out? I had a rhod100 user successfully boot into android with their SIM card in using this:

system.ext2: http://files.xdandroid.com/system-FRX06.ext2.zip

androidupdate+NBH: http://www.multiupload.com/4OGMXJQSST

Edit: Also, the rhod100 user is saying they have to play with moving the stylus in and out to get it to work. See here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-t...6-nand-testing-frx06-now-116.html#post2080830
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Nice Nate, awesome you made it a package so quickly!

I do find it odd that the stylus would effect his boot experience? Perhaps it's just coincidence and has nothing to do with it actually booting ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] m2maynard:
Will do. Probably won't be until tomorrow when I am back in front of my computer. Will report back the results.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mcnutty:
I just followed what neopeek was trying to say and used some other research I scoured from any source I could find. ACL is still handling all of the SIM card stuff, and I think one of his commits may have fixed the reboot with the SIM card in, but I don't think the SIM card is usable yet.

For the stylus, I'm betting it's a coincidence too, but it could also be a weird GPIO for rhod100's.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ryannathans:
BOOT LOOP still with sim in. seems to boot with sim out.

GSM RHOD110
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mcnutty:
At least you do get into Android with the SIM card out? I think rhod210/300 reference the SIM differently than the rhod100/110. That makes finding the kernel changes even harder, and I don't think ACL has figured it out yet.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] shatred:
got into a bootloop with rhod100
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] m2maynard:
same here on tilt 2 (rhod300)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] m2maynard:
I went ahead and installed NAND without the SIM then tried again with it after the install. It boot loops where it asks to hold volume up to get into recovery. I had to loop a few times because it bounces right after and is quick to read unless focused on it. so next time I was reacting and clicked the volume up button and hit it a few times right at the option to click for it and it got past the boot loop and booted into Android! However, it doesnt seem to see the SIM card so my guess is it was looking at the SIM as the SD and couldnt mount so skipped ahead to boot. Anyway to change the order of what SD gets mounted 1st? I would think if it found the sd 1st instead of the SIM it could get past this point?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Germypan:
Hi guys. i posted this question on ppcg too. i tried the new version and when rhod start android, after flash android from recovery, it crashes on

adb-open

# _

and not more!

I've a Rhod100_it

I tried to write some things but it don't works! I hope this information was useful for you

Sorry for my bad english

Germy
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] highlandsun:
Yes, you can change the list of devices that vold searches for in /etc/vold.fstab. You just need to know which one corresponds to the SD card and drop it from that list.

Disclaimer: I haven't tried any NAND images, don't know if this will work. Just telling you that there are ways to control what the system uses as an SD card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] eu0741924381:
thanks for the tip! i'll try it out right away!

But i do not think it would work as i think the problem is in the bootloader not in android itself...

not working...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] eu0741924381:
could be! but it seems that you have to do something to block the mound of the sd as another GSM rhod_110 user has reported that he manged to boot by pressing up on the right moment....

hm,seem not...my rhod was left on the table in a boot loop and he just entered android, seems the boots are random maybe android is not successfully mounting SD on every boot... Now the OS dos not see the simcard but the SD is up and running...

Rhod100_uk
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ltilt2:
AT&T Tilt2

So is it working on Tilt2???

thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ryannathans:
Looks like this user was able to, no sim though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] johnhale:
I can't get it past the boot loop into android.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] djcrosstunez:
Just boot to Android without my sim card,

Rhod100!!

:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] eu0741924381:
everyone can boot without simcard... but we need to figure out a way to do it with simcard in
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] xturbo91:
i've RHOD100 and it's saying modules not found...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] codedesignr:
I was having the same issue with my RHOD400. Try this link. McNutty said the current files could be found here. http://www.multiupload.com/97EUKHBEKZ . Still use the system.ext2 file that you already have
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] xturbo91:
Thanks v much, it worked just fine :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] m2maynard:
yep! so it seems.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] saketkutta:
hi

i just NAND'ed my rhodium today.

I am having some problems.

1. Wifi Not working (in the list it says working but dont know why it is not working in mine)

2. something wrong with the youtube app? none of the videos are playing

3. cannot access sd card from usb. i thought NANDing would let the sdcard be connected through the usb

if these are problems everyone is facing then i need to wait if not and theres a fix let me know..

i'll try to report more as i find one...

and can i change the home button to endcall button instead of power button
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Should work, assuming you have the correct modules.

Don't think that's so important in this stage...

It can, but AFAIK the SD card location is still wrong... So SD card won't work until they get that fixed. The focus is on LK and GSM right now.

In time, there will be options. Please, be patient.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] saketkutta:
well i have the files from the newest multiupload site (RHODIMG and androidinstall plus the system.ext2 from the 1st post)

actually wifi turns on but says cannot scan network and turns back off..

remaining is fine...

i just wanted the usb thing as i dont have a card reader and cannot access it unless inserted in a diff phone..

thanks

edit: and i just found that the os is not rooted?? can i root it??
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
The rooting directions are in this thread...

Well, at least they should be. I *know* they're included on the ppcg thread.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] 44R48:
Hi, How is the Wake up delay in this way of android on TP2?

I have Rhod100, when i boot Android from SD-card(4gb) then it takes about 20sec to wake up...and when i get a call it rings but it doesnt wake up.

Sorry for my english....:)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] lord-whiskey:
Here is what i experience....

IT BOOTS WITH MY RHOD100_UK, even with the simcard wifi works!, only got one MAJOR problem,.. it doesnt connect with my profider it keeps saying "no service"

this is the knoen gsm issue isnt it ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] eu0741924381:
Yes, NAND is CDMA ONLY at this time, but devs are working hard to get it working on GSM too
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Erbid:
m7200 vs LK Bootloader

I was on Code Aurora a moment ago, and began to wonder which kernel LK Bootloader is based on. Seems very few support the 72xx.

blueberry.cupcake	msm7x00

carrot.cupcake	msm7x00

chocolate.cupcake	msm7x00

coconut.cupcake	msm7x00

mango.cupcake	msm7x00

I wonder what changed for their more updated versions to support 7600 as opposed to 7x00 like these few.

Ah... I see no m72 anything in the tags...

https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/?p=kernel/lk.git;a=tags

Ach. Something more recent must be in there.

Erbid
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] HolyAngel:
This really needs to be stated on the main page and/or in the title, consistently i check this thread, and everytime i want to try it again, i read through the threads and remember that it isn't fully GSM compatible, but you wouldn't know that just reading the first page..

Other than that, I look forward to a fully GSM stable version, but loving the hard work you guys are doing to get android working, i know it'll come in time and hopefully by the looks of it, relatively soon ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
I agree, I am so anxious to use android on NAND for my tilt2, not until it works for gsm though. I know you guys work hard though so keep up the good work :D. For now I am content with just dual booting into android.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] lord-whiskey:
hey guys i got a tiny prob. the battery ran out of power and now when i plug it into the charger it comes to a point saying something about bad blocks than shut down and goes charging again, i can get into the bootloader but plugged in to the charger the charging light doesnt burn and he doesnt say "usb"neither "serial" when i plug it into my pche says USB but still the charging led doesnt show

HELP i dindt **** it up did i?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] rtwood:
I really want to run android on my TP2 without using haret, so NAND is a great solution obviously =)

However, how much is nand recommended? I use my phone often throughout the day and absolutely hate WindowsBobo. I have always said that if the TP2 was made for android and not winbobo it would be an awesome phone.

So I guess I am saying, as a frequent user of the phone, how much do you recommend I go full on with the Nand?

Thanks in advance.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I wouldn't recommend NAND at this stage. When it's caught up to haret/SD card installs, by all means. There's a lot of kernel work to be done, among other things. Haret/SD card builds are getting pretty solid tho, especially with a lot of the recent testing stuff in the pipeline.

I'm not saying don't try it - just don't expect it to work as well as SD builds at this stage.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Starfox:
I would suggest using Airplane mode+GenY autofast to boot into xdandroid. That's what I've been doing for the past 2 weeks. Putting WinMo on 'plane is necessary to 1) stop the system from adjusting clock to prevent fsck confusion and 2) getting lost messages/calls from the time WinMo starts the radio to when the ril takes control. That way you can still recover from testing oopses, and your handset behaves very much like a native Android that just happens to have a long boot time.

-- Starfox
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] ghostrid3r:
Can anyone else confirm the boot-loop issue i'm having after the battery runs completely empty then phone goes into reboot cycle when connected to charger and unable to load android. Only work around I have is to put another fully charged battery in to avoid the failed charge state in the 1st drained battery.

Specs : RHOD400

ROM : FRX06 NAND
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Yes, known issue. ACL is hoping LK resolves this AFAIK.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mcnutty:
Thanks for monitoring this thread Arrrghhh. I've been slacking off lately...

So the deal with the boot loop is something I've never been able to replicate, but that may be because my USB is so fubar. The fix for most people was to yank the battery, then plug the power in, let it charge until it tried to start booting, and yank the battery and repeat that cycle around 10 - 15 times until it has enough juice to boot into Android.

Edit: Also, ACL and LMiller have been working really hard on LK. It does fix the GSM boot issue and I believe he said it will fix the charging issue too. Sadly, ACL bricked of one of his TP2's while trying to use ASM to copy recovery.img to a specific NAND address. Not sure if it was the rhod400 or his GSM one though. The problem right now is that LK doesn't have the ability to run any scripts. It just looks in the ptables and executes any kernels found. Good progress is being made though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mcnutty:
I updated the first post to mention that GSM still has issues. For those who were stuck on the smd channel 0 part, many users were able to boot in by simply removing "-- -d /dev/smd0" from their sysinit.rc in the androidupdate.tgz. Unfortunately, that means they will not have data, but at least it does boot and work.

We are trying to finish up the work on LK right now which apparently fixes the GSM reboot when trying to mount the sd card. I'm not sure if it fixes the data issue as well or if that is maybe RIL related. ACL is doing the work on that since he bought a GSM TP2 to help you guys out.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] erazer2009:
really need a good tutorial

i'm new to this android stuff booting ,i dont have trouble playing with windows mobile but i find this android tricky to instal please someone post a tutorial how to instal :folders /files go where ,what to do next etc .please i almost broke my phone :(following the tutorial that is on the front page ,i will be very gratefull.thankyou in advance:D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
NAND isn't ready. Read the thread title, it's still in testing.

Use SD builds until this dev settles, thanks. You should get comfortable with those builds anyway before jumping on the NAND boat.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] erazer2009:
:eek: thank you very much didn't know that .:(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Lmiller1708:
For advanced users only:

I posted a test build over at PPCGeeks:http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/2089202-post2437.html

For GSM Users the recovery might not load for you. If it does not read this post: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/2090565-post2456.html

Also if yo can help me out with it that would be great!

You should be able to fully install Android just to test. But I'm guessing it is still going to get hung up at the same spot with the SIM Card in. And you will not be able to get back into recovery.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] dswaggz:
So does GSM have data support
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Based on what he said, GSM still doesn't work at all. We need GSM testers, and ones that can troubleshoot. Not many have stepped up... Most seem to be giving a valiant effort, but there's a language barrier with a few.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Zambowie:
Im a GSM user and am willing to try it out but I don't understand adb and fastboot. Do I need to install the original NAND and setup fastboot THEN install LK or is fastboot simpler than that? I cant even get the original NAND to work tho my boot lines end saying "enabling adb" then "adb open" and just stops there
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Have you seen the PPCG NAND testing thread?

Nate tries to keep both these threads updated, but honestly there seems to be more information going into that thread than this one....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Zambowie:
Oh thanks yeah theres something bout installing the adb drivers at the bottom of his post. Cool guess I'll give it another shot.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Zambowie:
Wellllllllllll now my Windows 7 wont recognize the drivers as the right ones for the device. Oh well maybe I'll try again later

Edit: Well i tried flashing NAND again and i realized i wasnt taking the system.ext2 out of the rar file lol lol. Well when i did that the boot ended at "ch 0 opening opened" and froze there. Seems like alot of GSM people have that problem. I would like to try LK but i dont know how to do fastboot and cant even get the adb drivers installed lol. I'll wait till devs finish everything i guess
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
GSM folk:

See the latest post from lmiller...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] eightorzz:
Anyone tested?

Any GSM users tested this? would be nice to have some feedback. I am gonna try to help with testing also. but would be nice to know a little before i flash it