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[Galaxy S I9000 General] johnnyboy1:
Ok Im very confused, my SGS had the SD failure and while I waited for the new one to get to me (it happened before christmas so I had to wait extra long) and did sooo many things I wouldnt know where to start but now its working great!

Im afriad to trade this thing in heres my history

On the 11th of December I upgraded never had a problem until JL2 came out and I upgraded to that (all this time iv been using it hardcore trying to get it to break)

Then the same day I did the JL2 upgrade I started getting a SD card failure BUT I could make phone calls but thats it. No camera, no android market, nothing to write to the internal SD card. I tried a lot of things and gave up on it a few days.

I went to it yesterday and it works perfectly! Iv tried everything to kill it but its working great!

I donno if I should trade this one in for the one samsung is sending me or if I should take the chance and keep it.

J
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Dawgplg:
I would love to know how they are reflashing these phones. Ive had 2 phones die in the last month. The first one would boot to the Blue S then go black and then nothing, except the 2 softkeys would light up when touched. I had that phone replaced with brand new, the new one was updated to JK4 and worked great for about a week. Then locked up and on reboot just would hit the first Galaxy S screen and then loop that over and over. I could still get into recovery and download on the second phone, but recovery would just give errors about the SD Card. After calling Bell they immediately wanted me to ship it in, no troubleshooting required.

If they are in fact fixing these phones I would love to know how... Something tells me that if it was possible then XDA would be the place to find that process.

Anyone have any idea? Any whistleblowers from Samsung or Bell care to share the company secrets.... Not that it really matters as my phone is gone, but could be helpful for when I get it back.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] slaman:
Mine says parts are backordered, so I think they're replacing hardware....

I am now on my fifth dead phone.

I hate this phone now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Spudsicles:
3 weeks later and my phone is on it's way to the store from repairs, apparently they replaced the motherboard. I can't wait for it to die again!...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] belayson:
Finally got my replacement in (got the order placed on dec 28). Its a 11.10 phone and came with jl2 on it, so far so good...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] warfanax:
I got my replacement today. It is 10.11 and jl2 installed. so far so good...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] belayson:
I'm not too sure if I'm being paranoid or not, but does anyone else notice that the viewing angles, especially on white dominant backgrounds, turn yellowish gray rather quickly?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hotdoggie:
Can someone please help me get some facts straight?

Okay, I am not a Bell client (I don't have any account with them). When my phone died after the Froyo update, I dropped my phone off on 13th December at a corporate Bell store for repair. Yesterday, I called and talked to someone (most likely the receptionist) at FutureTel. The lady told me that my phone had just been repaired--she told me they changed the motherboard, so it is like new.

Today, I went to the Bell store to pick up my phone. I looked at the serial number and it is my old serial number. I thought, okay, I will double check when I get home by putting the battery in and check under settings. It is the same serial number of my old phone! So, they just lied to me about replacing the motherboard? That's just ridiculous.

So, when people talk about Bell sending out a brand new replacement to them (then the client sends back the defective unit), is it only for Bell clients only? I really need to know, because FutureTel just outright lied to me about replacing my mobo and I am stuck with this 10 08 unit!

Edit: The phone now has JL2 installed, and it asks for network unlock code.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Samdroid_G_S:
1.They never said they replaced your case just the motherboard, so why would it have a different sticker.

2. Its asking for a unlock code witch further supports that infact it has been changed.

3.I do not believe you were lied to.

4. My replacement I received was a new phone it still had the samsung superamold screen protector on it along with a new imei and 2 blue dust protectors on my sim and ext sd slot.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hotdoggie:
1. Okay, but it is not just the sticker that stayed the same, the OS is reporting the same number as my old one. I could be wrong, but I thought people say that their IMEI/serial number changed too after a motherboard change (not a new phone swap).

2. I agree, that is a good sign indicating that it has been changed.

3. Again, I hope so too. It's just that the whole experience has been VERY unpleasant so I am super paranoid now as I don't want to go through it again.

4. I don't have any of those.

Thanks for your reply. I guess I will have to wait and see if my "supposedly" replaced motherboard phone will hold up.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] markhole:
I am in the same camp as hotdoggie. Only I AM a bell customer. They sent mine away for 3 weeks and returned the same IMEI only with JL2 installed. I asked the girl at the bell store what exactly was done to the phone but she said she had no way to tell. I did however, notice that the piece of paper it was wrapped with said something along the lines of "Replace PDB" (In barely legible writing) could this be the motherboard? Or some software thing? So apparently this is not a futuretel thing...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xxgg:
If you aren't sure about your IMEI number...

Just use that SGS Tools app or that dialpad number combo thingy~ to lookup your IMEI and compare to physical sticker on the back.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] fablife:
Same situation as me. But my SGS had two issues - first it would not power on without being plugged into a power source (yes the battery was fully charged). then it would get stuck at the samsung galaxy s screen even when plugged in.

I sent it in, got it back 3 weeks later - 36 hours later - same issues all over again.

I called Bell - they are sending a new device and gave me a $100 dollar credit.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] markhole:
It would be interesting to see if pre-10.12 phones are breaking with JL2... is there a poll for this already?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gtg2:
There isn't a poll correlating the hardware date with the firmware version but there is a hardware date-based poll. If you're responding due to failure, please include details like firmware version of failed phone, what were the problems (e.g. boot loop, recovery screen error msg, etc).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] markhole:
My second phone failed and had the recovery screen error "failed to mount [whatever it is]". When I didn't enter the recovery screen on boot, it would get past the galaxy s logo and just sit there with a blank screen and two lit soft keys and the only way or resetting was to take the battery out. I sent it away and was not sent a replacement, but rather my old unit repaired and flashed with JL2. I was just wondering what the likelihood is that I will be sending the phone away again. I can't seem to find many reports of stock JL2s failing with this issue. But I have a bad feeling that I'm not yet in the clear.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ricerz:
The same thing happened to me. I sent my defective i9000m for repair on Dec 20 and I was told I would get a brand new phone. When I got the call to pick up, I received my old phone but with JL2 loaded on. Everything was working fine for a day and all of a sudden it stopped working (black screen and softkeys lit). I did a wipe in recovery mode and it resolved the issue.

I still called Bell anyways and informed them of this issue. They have placed a repair order and a replacement phone is on it's way to me, I will have to ship the defective one back. They indicated they are no longer repairing these units and customers will just be receiving replacements.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] reMer(x):
What are my options without the receipt?

Hey Guys, I've only had my I9000M since Christmas, but it just cratered on me. I bought it off Kijiji and it died the next day, so I got the seller to exchange it for me the first time.

It just died again today, so I've had it roughly a month. I don't have the original receipt.

What are my options? I would appreciate any help.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kops:
Hmm, I had the dead internal SD issue within the first 3 days of buying my SGS, but at the time I hadn't known that it was a common issue.

Needless to say, I brought it to the Tbooth where I had purchased it and they gave me a straight up swap for a new one.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mobisteve:
Only ever updated with Samsung provided Froyo - never did any hacks of any kind. Phone died 3 weeks later. Sent for repair.

When I was debating between iPhone and SamSucks VibeNot GalLacksE S, I should have considered the residual value of each. The iPhone would have been worth $200 in a couple years...the SamSucks is already worthless.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] YG007:
I got my 4th phone back on December 30th. It just died right now!! (Jan 10, 2011). Does the boot loop at the initial Samsung screen, doesn't even get to the animation part.

The phone I got back was dated August 2010. I argued with the guy that this will fail again since its not from the 10.12 batch, and he assured me that it has a December mobo. Well, it looks like he's going to see me again.

Actually, I think I'm going to call Samsung direct this time and see what happens.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Guinea.Pig:
Picked up my phone used on Craigslist 3 days ago. It is a 10.07 running on JK4. Didn't have any issue at all till I found this thread.

As I was reading through the thread last night I decided to download a GPS status app and I started getting the Force Close... I was able to go to Settings->SD Card->Internal SD card->Format SD card and reset to factory settings. After doing that the phone is once again running...

Any recommendations?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] can3gxw:
Hook it up to KIES and upgrade the firmware to JL2 IMMEDIATELY!!!!

There is a flaw in the JK4 firmware that will kill your SDCard.... it apparently makes many, many, many too many writes to the sdcard that basically runs it through about 10 years of regular data writing and just wears it out.

If you don't do it now, prepare to have to call Bell/Samsung to have it replaced.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] YG007:
It doesn't matter about the firmware, the problem is with the hardware. People who have a manufacturing date of 10.12 on their phone or newer, are mostlikely safe. Any before that are prone to the internal SD death. My 4th phone just died today. JL2. Bell is just blaming the JK4 firmware because people just bring it in after upgrading to it broken. Its not the firmware that breaks the phone, its when writing to a bad part of the SD that corrupts the SD/CPU chip. JK4 was just a coincedence. It could happen to any firmware.

This is getting rediculous!! I bought my phone in August, and only had 5 weeks of use (if you add up all the days I got to use the phone from the beginning of August till now)!!! Five weeks out of 21 weeks is HORRIBLE! This is unacceptable!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] seeARMS:
Are you sure? Bell has apparently included a 'fixed' secondary boot loader in the JL2 ROM, which prevents the SD card from dying. SBLs are typically not included in ROMs, which is why it's odd if they're blaming the firmware.

And, my 2nd phone died after only 2 days. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Guinea.Pig:
Since I got my phone used I am not too sure as to what Rom is on it other than it is running on JK4. Would it still be safe to flash it to JL2 using Kies?

I am used to WM which doesn't have as many varieties that may or may not work with each other.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AvatarReborn:
Gee is anyone left with phone #1 and has had it for more then 90days ???

I have a 10.07 I9000M that I've had since release day. I've flashed many times and don't really have any complaints other then the sub par GPS.

Mind you I've not seen many people with 10.07 for a date code.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] can3gxw:
I too have 10.07 hardware, and have had NO issues whatsoever with my device. :) (this is my FIRST SGS).

I have flashed up at each upgrade with absolutely ZERO issues. I am currently running the latest Bell ROM - Froyo 2.2 - JL2.

NEVER have rooted, installed any lagfix or used any custom ROMS. Once I upgraded to the JL2, though, my GPS is usually almost SPOT ON (most times in a clear area I will be within 5 meters). :)

LOVING IT!:cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] urself25:
I received my SGS back from repair after dying on me following the JK4 upgrade (never rooted). I did not get a replaced one, they repaired my SGS instead. working great for the moment but I only had a hour out of it before I had to recharge my battery.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rhainman:
I'm also on a launch 10.07 unit. Flashing daily and it's been fine!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AvatarReborn:
Interesting !! I wonder if our units have a different type of flash memory on board or something?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] fablife:
I had a 10:08...worked perfectly for 4 months, rooted and lagfix. Did the official FM update and about 1 week later - SGS would not turn on without being plugged into a powersource. Then the next day, bunch of FC's and dead.

sent for repair, 3 weeks later - the the same SGS back - next day, power issue again. Now its being replaced by a new SGS via Bell.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
Hmm seems like if my launch-week unit had made it another week to the JL2 update it might still be fine. I had no major problems until the SD error about a week after JK4 installed.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ronsweet:
I've not had any issues also

I got my SGS on Nov 11, and the date code on it is 10 10, flashed JK4 with KIES within 24 hrs of it's release and then flashed JL2 a week after it was made available.

I have never rooted, nor lag fixed, and my GPS has been very good from day one.

I have a 16 GB microSD installed, move apps and business files back and forth a lot.

I have been using it constantly, heavy use, MS Exchange business email, private Gmail, texting, SMS, a lot of long distance calls both out and in, camera still and video, games, wifi, 74 apps so far and this phone has been operating beautifully.

I am an electronic engineering technologist and have been in electronics for the past 30+ years and I am inclined to believe there was a bad batch of hardware, and maybe a kneejerk reaction by both Bell and Sammy to jump on the software to try to control or fix (bandaid) it. Just my 2 cents worth.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Guinea.Pig:
Well, tried to upgrade the firmware through Kies and I got an unexpected error, and the phone sat on the Downloading screen.

How to I determine what Rom I have on my phone, and how best should I approach flashing the firmware?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tarambuka:
Mine is from the same batch and it died five days after JK2 was released with a constant boot loop. I got the same phone back from repairs, they just did a low level re-flash with JL2. Now I'm trying different torture methods to see if it dies again. So far it's still standing. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gtg2:
I bought 2 phones on release day with 10.08 dates. One died twice and one is still running fine. I've done much more flashing on the "faulty" phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Spudsicles:
Yeah, I just got mine back today from FutureTel after being repaired with a new motherboard. It too has the same IMEI on the sticker as in the settings. Also came with JL2. Guess I'll try and stress test it in the next week, good to have my phone back tho.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] homergoalie:
My repair showed up today. Different IMEI, battery, screen. Did not come with the new firmware which the bell store highly recommended I upgrade too :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wang1chung:
i thought the IMEI number was stored in the efs partition and the bml3? should have been easy for a tech to flash those, no? hence why most everyone has the same one that had their phone repaired, and not replaced?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hotdoggie:
Okay, I think I can finally shed some light on what is going on with those FutureTel repaired phones (at least for those who just got them back this week). I wanted to post this earlier, but I was so busy today trying to fix my BlackBerry's synchronization with 3 different computers.

I posted in an earlier post that the lady from FutureTel told me that my phone's entire motherboard was replaced with the boards that they had just received last week. So, I was expecting to see a different IMEI both on the sticker and in the phone's OS. Also, I expected to see the blue shielded SD card slots--since that's what those who have received motherboard replacements have said on here.

Yesterday, I called FutureTel again and spoke with a different lady who answered the phone. I asked her what was actually done to my phone. She said that the motherboard was replaced. But I said, "what about the IMEI number?". She told me that the tech replaced the motherboard (the entire board), and then flashed my old IMEI to the new board. That is why my phone, along with others', have the same IMEI number as their original phones. Lastly, the tech flashed the s/w to the phone as well (JL2 in this case).

This explains a number of things. First, since they flashed our old IMEI number to the new motherboard, they had to put the old plastic casing from our original phones with the IMEI sticker onto the replacement motherboards. Given that is the case, they might as well use our old phones' entire casing. Hence, we do not get the new blue shielding SD card slots. Second, although the IMEI is the same as my old phone's, the WiFi MAC address has changed. This further indicates that the board has been changed. Maybe some of you can verify that.

For one thing, I am happy that I did basically get a replacement and not a "repaired" one. On the other hand, I think it sucks that I don't know when my new motherboard was manufactured. At the end of the day, the phone I have now seems really good. So, I hope this is finally done and over with.

For those of you whose SGS were sent to FutureTel, I suggest that you call them up and request for a copy of your SGS' Completion Report. I asked for mine, and the lady emailed it to me in less then 10 minutes. See the attached file for what the report looks like.

I hope this clarifies things up for those who are in the same situation as I am.

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] homergoalie:
I did too. The boards date is 10.10 , battery has a Sep date. My original was all launch dates.

Found it odd that it would come with UGJG6 if it was a repair. I don't know, I flashed JL2 and it took it no issues. I am finding bell hides info well, and their stores follow suit in either playing uninformed or being genuinely low on IQ. I plan to show it no mercy to see if any signs of failing arise.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] urself25:
I got mine yesterday (manuf. 10.09) from repair (Service Absolut in Montreal). My Completion report was not so self explanatory. They did replace something on my SGS (repair code 312) part GH82-05132A which I cannot find anthing about on the net. However, it it way faster than it was on 2.1 or even after on 2.2 JK4. I tested my GPS this morning, first run since it came back and I got a lock within 30 sec. It came with JL2.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] deezy7:
Hi everyone,

I just got my phone back from Service Absolut in Montreal. My Completion Report says my PBA was replaced, but the sticker behind my battery still says 10.07 :( Is there a way to check the date of the board internally, from the phone, or any of the menus? Somewhere in settings? It came with JL2 already installed, but I was really sad to see that the sticker still says 10.07. However, if the motherboard holds up, then I guess it's a non-issue.

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ihrytsak:
Returned Mine Today

Went to the local Bell store today with 2 new Vibrants I bought on Dec 30th, both of which had glitched within a few days of purchase. I had been able to do a 3 button factory reset and get them both going again but was concerned that this might become an ongoing problem. Both phone were 10.11 and had 2.2. preinstalled with the JK4 firmware.

I told Bell I wanted to exchange them for 2 new phones with the 10.12 hardware level but unfortunately the only ones they had in stock were 10.11, same as mine. The manager said that all new SGS phones were now marked on the box with a blue dot indicating Froyo 2.2 and JL2 firmware were installed. He then produced a letter from Samsung stating that the recent problems were fully addressed by the JL2 firmware and these problems were not hardware related. I said I was unconvinced since according to this site, the problems happened long before 2.2 and units sent in for repair were having mobo's replaced.

Despite all that, I told him that I would keep my phones if Bell would provide a free 3 year warranty to offset my concerns about being stuck with a potential lemon for 3 years but he refused. He offered nothing for my trouble or anything by way of incentive to remain a Bell customer.

So, being within the 14 day period and under 30 min talk time I returned both phones. I then went over to the Telus booth to see if the HTC Desire HD was in but was told it's coming soon.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] markhole:
That's what mine said.. not PDB...

anyone know what PBA stands for?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wang1chung:
printed board assembly
[Galaxy S I9000 General] momyc:
meaning the motherboard !?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] raylee4204:
lag fix

i just got my phone back yesterday from repair

so are we safe to install lagfix again?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DvTonder:
I would stay away from lagfix if I were you. My replacement phone died 4 hours after lagfix was applied
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wang1chung:
yes, the motherboard.

you're good, don't worry about the IMEI, as stated above, it is just flashed.

it would be nice if you could remove the cover on the phone and see a date the actual board, but whatever.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Philgag:
Here is an update for my case:

Got my phone back yesterday and repair invoice said board was replaced. Like others, I have the same screen,casing and emei number. My phone came with froyo jl2 installed. The phone seem fast...

So far so good...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] balance101:
sigh brought phone since Aug 2010, always thought I was a lucky one with no internal SD problems

Jan. 11/ 2011 my SGS officially dies

Aug 2010 - Jan. 11/2011 I remember having to go to store to store to find a SGS with a working recovery/downloading mode

so whats the fastest process in getting your phone fix?

deal with bell or future tel directly?

is bell still offering the $100

I remember a year back I try to get a 2 year old phone fix by bell, bell would charge me "fees"

call future tel directly, they had a UPS box sent to my door step ship to them for a quote, if I decide to not have it fix, they would send me the phone back no charges

mobo version 10.08

today at work pull out my phone saw black screen after trying to wake it still no response so pull out battery (had to do this a few times before) this time when it boot it was logo boot loop, couldn't enter recovery mode but download mode works

come home try to flash with JL2, try the jm9 from DOC's thread boots into recovery with can't mount SD card :mad: