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[A7 General] xwint3rxmut3x:
That's really my only concern also. If it turns out this doesn't have multitouch, i'm not even opening the box and sending it back. I haven't seen enough conclusive evidence one way or another to be convinced it does or doesn't. For me though, two point multi touch is enough, but if it doesn't really have that, i'm not interested.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Well if you have ADB working or super user and a file manager that can change permission (root manager paid version) then you can copy the apps to /system apps folder.
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
http://developer.android.com/guide/publishing/app-signing.html

That's basically what Goodwyns was saying, so that's what I'm commenting on right now.

Billy
[A7 General] goodwyns:
oh, i tried installing angry birds from the market...it errors out with a cryptic "error 18" for anyone who may know a little more than I do about the cryptic messages.

on a side note....has anyone successfully updated the drivers for opengl es 2.0? might solve the problem as well as a few other apps. I know someone from XDA successfully updated the folio to es 2.0..just wondering if anyone has tried that on this tab
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
I had an extra vending.apk in data/app too, but still no dice for me after removing it. :(

And the worse part, the wife is home, so I'm done for the night. :(

Billy
[A7 General] Canadoc:
the update is being released on Friday, maybe installing that?
[A7 General] goodwyns:
ill write u an .sh file and step by step tomorrow...or chris can do it (yeah chris, you may have just been volunteered) ...ran out of time tonight
[A7 General] Canadoc:
maybe we should make a trimmed update zip with only the relevant apks
[A7 General] Canadoc:
I read somewhere that when doing this you shouldn't have duplicate apks.

Perhaps that is the problem.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
I won't try to update the drivers as I am expecting that that is one of the fixes coming on Friday (they even reference angry birds, which the G tablet , a tegra device also had trouble with at first).
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
As soon as we get it working manually, you can bet we'll make an update.zip. There's just been so many guess and check tries, it would take twice as long to make an update.zip each time.

I can double check for duplicates via adb and ssh with the a7 stashed away in a cabinet so my wife doesn't see it.

Billy
[A7 General] durango99:
this sounds awesome. please share the bash script and instructions in this thread if possible. really appreciate the help.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Guess we know what she is getting for x-mas!!!

On a side note are you overall happy with the screen despite the 800x480 resolution? Viewing angles ? I have a lot invested in this tablet time wise in the sense that I am in Canada, bought a gtablet and spent countless hours getting it setup right and before I could and when it felt hopeless I ordered this to my brothers place in Florida when it went on sale at Bj's. Of course right after it shipped and knew that if I return it I would lose my sipping costs likely both ways, I got the gtab working near perfect. The only issues ongoing for me were the horrid viewing angles, and the 10 inch size while very good in landscape mode felt wrong in protrait mode (which for me is my preferred way to hold it when reading a book).

So I have had the tablet for 5 days not in my possession totally unsure if it is any better than the g tablet with regards to the screen and typing.....

I am sure soon enough we will get market on here without the same trials and tribulations. With the expected firmware update I am hoping that there won't be any real need for other fixes on the tablet and anything else done by dev types, will be to bring out things that the hardware can do that were not enabled (like possibly 3g, better multitouch, ultimately honeycomb if the company doesn't release it on their own).
[A7 General] thebadfrog:
Check Viewsonic G Tablet forums for info

I have been interested in getting one of the Elocity tablets so I have been following this thread all day. I have the GTab right now and although the viewing angles aren't great I don't find them as bad as others have. Anyway, it seems you guys are having the same issues the Gtab had from the beginning with the market and other things. Maybe check the Gtab forums for some info for the tegra drivers and the Folio 100 flash apk.

My wife stole my Gtab so I'm really interested in this device if you guys can figure this out. :)

***To XDA Developers....how about a dedicated thread****

EDIT...Just a thought but just because you have root doesn't mean busybox is installed so maybe you don't have all the necessary commands to install
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Exactly!

I really like the A7 so far. The screen isn't too bad, but not great. I'd like the resolution a little higher (which I was able to do with an app), but my wife won't care. I think she's running 1280x760 on her 19" widescreen monitor! HAHA.

But really, I think this is a great deal for $300. Especially if it's either adopted by developers or it continues to be easy enough for me to get stuff done myself. I do love that it's been fairly open so far. I think it's got a ton of potential and I think the multitouch will get better and I think the tablet is going to get a lot faster over the next few months.

Billy
[A7 General] hashbrown:
I think the update.zip wont install because the locations to flash arent accessible.

/cache/recovery/command

And

/dev/block/mmcblk1p1
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Well, those two locations don't exist - command doesn't exist and mmcblk1p1 doesn't exist. We could create them and make them accessible, but perhaps they're being referenced because the file that's calling for them was written for a different device?

Billy
[A7 General] tipstir:
Rooted but limited since can't get my rooted apps to work they scan the system and can't save data. I feel this tablet limit's me and I guess some of you. Still the price of it might be worth keeping it. But everyone is banking on the update fix and that doesn't do it? Just have wait and see. One of the late night talk show host had the CEO of gadget on there showing off Android OS 2.3. I see how multi-touch really pays off and the A7 just another tablet which is high price.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Earlier in this thread someone explained how to install busybox I believe
[A7 General] Canadoc:
do you get that as an error when trying?

Man I wish one of the gtablet devs would get one of these. Maybe 30 of us should chip in 10$ to send them one for free on condition they work on it for us.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
which rooted apps?

Short of the chinese poorly spec'd tablets that still cost close to 200$ plus shipping what other tablet is this cheap with specs even close to this? Archos 70? with its 256mb of Ram? Nook color with albeit a nice screen an 800mhz processor no bluettoth , mic, webcam or usb or hdmi ports?
[A7 General] thebadfrog:
Wow, Sorry, My apologies, I'll just keep quiet then
[A7 General] Canadoc:
didn't mean it that way. It was a good point!

I am not even really sure how to make use of busybox as this is all new to me.

I was just saying I think we managed to get it installed but I am not sure what use it has as of yet.

Please feel free to contribute anything.
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Even after getting rid of all extra Google-related apps, I still have the same problem.

Billy
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Did you install version 5 or version 6? Did you see the note regarding which one is needed?

Billy
[A7 General] hoagm:
http://elocitya7.wikispaces.com/BusyBox

The install works great and gives you access to all the busybox commands. Makes navigating and manipulating the file system much easier (or, possible) from a terminal.
[A7 General] hoagm:
I'm at the exact same spot. Everything appears to be running right, but just can't log in, same error.
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Not that that way is hard, but the easier way is to install Titanium Backup, open it, and click on the button that says, "Problems?"

Billy
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
I thought might be a good idea to look at the logcat for the time that it's trying to authenticate...

You guys see anything interesting?

Billy
[A7 General] nev310:
can someone post their wpa_supplicant i deleted my back up trying to find one that will work for ad-hoc on the elocity
[A7 General] Amneonx:
I am very anxious to see this done. Is it possible that the firmware update on Christmas Eve will make it easier to do? They say they are fixing issues with apps not loading(Angry Birds, and who knows, maybe it'll launch market after that), as well as the screen size. i will try to post the laundry list of updates after I get it. I am expecting the list from eLocity sometime today.
[A7 General] mjposner:
Alternatives to A7

Someone posted that despite all these issues what other tablet comes close. I have both the A7 and the Huawei Ideos S7 that is $299 at best buy. It has the best resistive screen I have used, has a sim slot that works, has 8 gigs of internal ram, has market access and no wifi issues. The cons are no Android 2.2, 256mb of internal system memory, 768mhz snapdragon processor (though can be overclocked), less attractive than the A7 (though the rubber covers for everything drive me crazy. Also, for those looking to mount this (like in a car as a car computer) the A7 has a huge a/c adapter right on the bottom.

Will probably send the A7 back unless the 24th update solves my major problems (wifi, battery life, market access)

Michael
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Given how the big knock against the a7 is no multitouch, the thought of paying same price for resistive screen much slower processor with half the system ram? I'll pass. Yes it has 3G but given I already pay for a data plan on my cell I would rather tether than pay twice so 3G while qn added bonus is not so important. Running flash well is.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Given how the big knock against the a7 is no multitouch, the thought of paying same price for resistive screen much slower processor with half the system ram? I'll pass. Yes it has 3G but given I already pay for a data plan on my cell I would rather tether than pay twice so 3G while qn added bonus is not so important. Running flash well is. I expect wifi and your battery issue will be fixed tomorrow. Market will depend on the work done by people here. One person claim to have had it working.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Didn't you mention that you had 2 versions of something

before? One in data that you deleted?maybe it is referring to the cache from that not finding it and timing out. I would try going into recovery and wiping cache.

Also iirc titanium backup has a way to wipe the Dalvik cache. Perhaps this will work after a reboot.
[A7 General] mrfurby2u:
Enticing some Dev Help

I have seen several requests in this thread for some Dev help. Would it help if we set up a Paypal (or whatever) account for donations to buy a target for a developer? All the developers do this stuff out of the goodness of their hearts and cant afford to buy targets for everything. Just a thought, I have seen this work for other platforms. I would be willing to kick in 20 bucks or so myself.

mrfurby2u
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
x2! Especially on the 3G issue! I have to pay for a data package already and I can tether for free... why would I want to pay for another data package? It's not like I'm not going to have my phone on me!

The fact that the S7 doesn't have Froyo yet, definitely suggests that it's not ever going to Gingerbread. That and once the power of the Tegra II is really harnessed, it's going to SMOKE the S7.

Billy
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
I'm sure it would help, but keep in mind, there are only like 10 people on this huge site that have this device. We have to give them a chance.

Billy
[A7 General] Canadoc:
It's a catch 22. Had this come out before the gtablet all the dev work would have been on this. But since it didn't they all have time and money invested in a different device, so there is no motivation to come here.

Rothnic in another thread also was sayign that it seemed like not too much stuff was done yet to really open it up. and here is the catch, if a dev won't help cuz it has not been opened up enough, and we need a dev's help to open it..... then unless we luck out and someone gets this device, we might be SOL.
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Valid points. Well, I'd be in for $10. Maybe $20 when I'm a little more frustrated. Today's my last day to try to get Gmail, GCal, and the market working before giving it to the wife.

Billy
[A7 General] Canadoc:
did u use the same files that the other oerson did who got market working? to dtae he is th eonly one who has. I look forward to a write up from him detailing how he did it.
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
how to get market working

As stated earlier by goodwyns we were able to get market working with a simple copy and paste, some people in this thread were hung when it tried to authenticate with google, I think that may be because they didn't copy over all apk's I had this problem and I think it was the htc license apks that got it working. So! The deal was at first I was running very short on space there was only like 10mb free. I found that elocity had put two movie trailors in /system/etc, once I deleted those it cleared up almost 400mb on the system partition. SO

Step1. Delete the movie trailors in /system/etc directory,

Step2. Copy ALL APKS from the update.zip - the one posted earlier that came for the gtab from cyanogenmod!!(this is important unless you're sure exactly which ones are needed)

As for the wpa supplicant, you can find the patched supplicant for the samsung galaxy online. It uses version 0.6.10 I believe which is the same that this tablet uses and use root explorer to overwrite the one in the /system/bin folder.

GOOD luck and merry christmas
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Thanks!!!!!

Quick question

to copy those files over do u need to be using adb or can u do it using root explorer?
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
You can do it in root explorer just make sure to mount as read/write first
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Thats what I thought.

Will try it.

Do all the files go into /system/ app?

anything need to go anywhere else?

Also some people claimed to have tried but it wouldn't let them move it
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
yup all files from the system/app of the zip go to the system/app folder on your device, if they tried to copy it and it wouldn't let them then its because they weren't mounted as read/write, worst case you can go to the terminal emulator, and

Su

Mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

And that will mount your system directory as read write.

Its actually really simple, I think people just expect it to be much more difficult then it is. But market is fully working, everythings good... after getting market and adhoc I love the tablet.
[A7 General] bigwh00p:
How is the battery life on the a7?
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
Battery Life Could be better, but I think its mostly a firmware that's causing the short battery life, I can get about 4 -5 hours of ussing it non stop.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
I read somewhere that when someone checked on the battery usage stats alot of battery life went to phone processes.

Could u check this?

If so, I beleive there are certain system apk that can be removed:

phone, mms, telephony
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Yeah, I used the same files. I tried wiping cache, to no avail. It should be noted that Ti Backup Pro doesn't wipe Dalvik, it just cleans up the "unnecessary files". I think I can wipe Dalvik from adb, so I'm going to try that now.

Billy

EDIT: Apparently, I didn't use the same files. Trying it again now.
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
I went back and copied over the files from the CM GApps pack as opposed to the GTab one I used before, and I actually took a step backwards. Now I'm back to Google applications just flashing instead of opening, and I don't even get the option to add a Google account in the "Accounts and sync" page.

Billy
[A7 General] hoagm:
copied all files over, reboot and still getting the "can't establish..." error. Going to wipe cache and try again.
[A7 General] hoagm:
No luck. And YouTube won't launch at all. Just clears the screen, flashes, then goes back to the launcher.
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
OK, so I went back and copied the apks from /app/ in the GTablet.zip (HERE) and got back to the point where I could try and authenticate my account. It still doesn't go through, but no more step backwards, I guess. Do you want to try that hoagm and see if it works for you?

Billy
[A7 General] hoagm:
Yeah, I'll give that a try. What are you doing between tries? Just deleting files, wiping data?

I'm wondering if starting from the out-of-the-box build is the best way to test. But I'm a bit concerned based off someone else's experience with the wipe. As is yours Billy, mine is a present for the wife. Not much time left before it has to go under the tree and a brick would be... uh... bad right now. :D

Matt
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
File to download

android.d3xt3r01.tk/cyanogen/gapps/gapps-mdpi-tegra-20101020-signed.zip

Guys... sorry shoulda specified this earlier, this is the link I used not the gtablet.zip

Let me know if it works.
[A7 General] DroidxRage:
I used that link... I can get to authenticate but getting the data error over wifi.

Only thing is, my Droid1 can't connect to market over company wi-fi either, so I'm not sure if it's just here. I'll try again when I get home.

I can install and use the YouTube widget fully though it appears, dunno if that's a good sign or not.
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
I'm reverting back to how it was right before that attempt. I backed up almost all the files individually before I started anything and I'm just trying not to change too much at one time.

I'm nervous to wipe at this point too because I think it only wipes the data partition... it's the system partition that I've been screwing with.

Luckily, I do have a backup A7. I ordered 3 in a panic thinking I wouldn't get them by Christmas. I sent one back, but figured I could send the other one back after Christmas. Not that I won't be mad if I brick one!

I'm also thinking that, if I had to, I could use that other one to fix the other if I screw it up.

Billy
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Yeah, that's the one I tried. MD5 matches.

Thanks though,

Billy
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
No luck? Where are you stuck?
[A7 General] jazzbone:
Hi guys,

Just got home and glad to read this!

Question: Do you unzip the file on your computer and then copy each file one by one to the tablet? Or, do you copy an entire folder? If so, how do you copy a folder? I haven't had any luck doing that.

So, app folder to app folder, lib folder to lib folder, etc.?

Next, what is "wpa supplicant" and what do I do with it?

Thanks!
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
PROGRESS!!

OK, I didn't revert any of the stuff I mentioned trying in the last few hours. I just replaced framework.jar with a hacked copy that clockworx made for me. I also modified my build.prop to spoof the device as being a nexus one. Then I tried again with no luck. So, I tried YouTube (again) and I was able to log in! Then I went back to Accounts and Sync and my gmail account is in there!

Gmail is working!

The market is still crashing. I think maybe I need to change my build.prop back.

Billy
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
Rock on!!! I would try that and see if it makes a difference, because I never had to swap mine out, apparently this thing has a market id.
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
Ok, You're going to want to download the file on your tablet and unzip it there, the only folder you need to be concerned about is the system/app folder, you don't need any of the others. The wpa_supplicant is in the /system/bin directory you're just going to want to download the modified one for the samsung galaxy s and replace the one that's in there.
[A7 General] hoagm:
Any chance you can share the new framework.jar? ;)
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
I swapped it back and the market is still crashing. Logcat says this when it crashes:

:confused::confused::confused:

Billy
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Did you load the htc tos?
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=877752

(Near the bottom)

Back yours up and keep in mind, it could be some freak coincidence. In fact, try logging into YouTube before going any farther. Maybe I hadn't tried in a while.

Billy
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
I agree with canadoc you probably either need the htc tos apk or maybe its just messed up permissions on that apk
[A7 General] jazzbone:
Anyone have a link to the wpa supplicant?
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
What's the filename? Do you know?

Thanks,

Billy
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
If it comes on the A7 to begin with, was included in GTablet.zip, or included in CM's GAPPS.zip, I've got it installed. But I don't see any apk's with "TOS" in the name :confused:

I tried to load the calendar and it crashes, BTW.

Billy
[A7 General] hoagm:
Ok, backed up my framework.jar, used the one from this link and rebooted. Couldn't sync the google account so I tried YouTube. Remember, YouTube app wasn't working for me at all. So now it works! And it let me log in! Going back to accounts, google account is now active, turned on sync and GMail works.

Still getting crash of the Market. Going to see if I can find a different version.
[A7 General] Canadoc:
http://www.google.com/gwt/x?u=http:...8ecda7f501fe&ei=pWsSTafIENXCmQfGm6iTCg&wsc=vb

Has list of different files in it. There are a few from htc possibly those were not installed?
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
Good idea on the market version. I tried going back to the old framework.jar. If that doesn't work, I'll try another version of vending.apk too.

Billy

Oh, and are you getting an error at startup that says, "The application Google Partner Setup (process com.google.android.partnersetup) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."? It only gives me the error that one time, but maybe it's related?
[A7 General] moku160:
Just wanted to say that I have a A7 on the way and that I appreciate all of everyones efforts to get this working. Also look forward to seeing what tomorrows update does.
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
TOS is the terms of service I believe that's what those htc apks were , the htccopyright, htcemail and htcsettings apks, try copying all three of those
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
K, I went back to the original framework.jar and Gmail still works and the market still doesn't. What changed... YouTube stopped working.

Back to the modified version.

Billy
[A7 General] JeepFreak:
OK, then they're loaded and everything :confused:

Billy
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
Dang dude frustrating, I'm looking online to see if anyone else maybe on another tablet is having a similar issue. That super sucks.
[A7 General] jazzbone:
Okay, I found this wpa supplicant here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=754961

Here is the file:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=380322&d=1281834626

I'm not sure if that is the one you referred to.

I can't copy it to my system/bin folder!

The other files copied fine, but this one fails everytime I try it. Any help?

btw, I'm using ES File Explorer.
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
Do you have wireless running... if so you should probably shut that off before trying to copy it, if not then mount it read write through the terminal, I stated how to do that in a previous post
[A7 General] Canadoc:
Es file explored won't work. You need to use root explorer. With root explorer you can change permissions of the folder from read only to read write and then you can copy files over.
[A7 General] hoagm:
No errors on startup at all.

So here's where I'm at. I downloaded Market 2.2.7 from the Apps section of XDA forums to no avail. Different error, but still no joy.

I also noticed that Google Talk isn't letting me in. To my understanding, Talk is the messaging engine for the Market. So I'm now trying Vending and Talk from the Gtab package.
[A7 General] awsumopossum:
Only other thing I can think of on that is your permissions man... I guess when in doubt chmod 755