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[Milestone 2 General] :
Blur is much more then a home screen replacement. It also attempts (and fails in my opinion) to enhance the user experience by integrating a prolific mount of services and applets that ties functions like social networking to contact and calendar objects and in doing so degrades a fine piece of technology to similar performance as a spud (potato).

I think Motorola has a robust, elegant and highly functional lump of hardware but do themselves and the product a great dis-service by crippling it with Motoblur and rendering its performance and efficiency to a substandard level.

They really need to understand that their efforts to deter individuals such as Angdroid could alternatively be used to propel their product popularity by embracing and easily allowing users to decide how and what they would like to use their product for. After all, it is our cash and we should be permitted to use products that we purchase how we see fit if it does not directly or indirectly impact on others unfairly.

I suppose Motorola aren't alone with this approach and whilst I understand that they feel they are protecting their product profile and thus protecting their brandname they are at the same time positioning themselves as facists.

Motorola, we are mostly grownups and I'm certain that our use or misuse of your products isn't going to have the same effect as an iceberg on the Titanic did....
[Milestone 2 General] Shellite:
Agree'd, if Motorola would allow the community access to unlock and unleash the true power of the handset, they would see much higher sales figures for the phone.
[Milestone 2 General] ignatius95:
Im just joking with the blur thing :p for not being so smooth that it blurred.. if you get what i mean :p

I tried laucher pro... ADW.. dont seem to improve much :( the transition between screens/pages in home/app menu is still laggy...

Feels like... even a 300 bucks phone can have a smoother system than MM2 does lol :(
[Milestone 2 General] axes90:
Well, using go launcher OR adw I dont experience any kind of lag at all... but rather smooth transitions!
[Milestone 2 General] kanek06:
Should I be affraid of that MM2 has only 1 Custom ROM? I will buy MM2 in next about 6 months and prize will get cheaper because dual cores procesors and Tegra2 and other ...

Is it Fission ROM so good? Can someone from Droid 2 speak about that?
[Milestone 2 General] extremeit79:
Gday mate i have debranded my optus milestone 2 with the uk sbf i have put a milestone 2 debrand guide on here in the development section 100% working
[Milestone 2 General] rodi1981:
How?

How we going to cook new ROM if boot is locked?

Is anyone up there who can get boot image ?
[Milestone 2 General] 3-S-E:
The bootloader is not locked so much that you can not boot any other rom instead of Motorola's own roms, it is rather signed, so that you have to use Motorola's official Android-kernel to build your own rom on top of it.

What we can not do is check out the Android-Source from repository, compile the whole stock-thing and flash it to a Motorola-device - so we can not upgrade from Froyo to Gingerbread for instance.
[Milestone 2 General] skaskater1:
hey i just got a Droid 2 Global my understanding is they are the same but the D2G is a verizon locked phone anyway this will work on the D2G using the M2 Radio image to unlock my radio so the phone can be sim unlocked for tmo? if you think its possible or may work please include me for testing thanks
[Milestone 2 General] BoyBawang2:
But why I saw Milestone 1 with Gingerbread? Milestone 1 loader was also locked right?
[Milestone 2 General] gabri741:
Gingerbread on Milestone

Actually, you can have an older kernel with a newer system, but all the functions won't be supported if changes in the kernel are important.

For instance, there was a FroYo build for Milestone with the old 2.1 kernel, but saving apps to the SD card wasn't supported at all without a hack.
[Milestone 2 General] 3-S-E:
Maybe you've seen a droid 1 and not a milestone 1? Original Droid's bootloader is open...
[Milestone 2 General] r2beta0:
There is really a Custom ROM for Milestone1 able to run Gingerbread, it's called ShadowMod BR and it's a brazilian ROM (for the Brazilian model of MM1).

In fact it is a port of AOSP gingerbread running over the motorola leaked froyo kernel with some adaptations made.
[Milestone 2 General] BoyBawang2:
Does it mean that once the new Motorola Atrix is updated to 2.3 or 2.4 (for sure), we can rip its kernel to milestone 2 or milestone 1?
[Milestone 2 General] 3-S-E:
Okay, so it's running a froyo-gingerbread-zombie! ;)

I think this is only possible if the bootloader's signature of the Atrix matches with the Milestone 2 - but it doubt it!
[Milestone 2 General] gabri741:
Tegra vs. OMAP

The Motorola Atrix doesn't use the same hardware architecture as all the previous phones relesed by Motorola (Tegra 2 versus Texas Instruments OMAP) so I really doubt that the Atrix kernel will work on our dear phones !
[Milestone 2 General] falecomcyber:
So, few days ago i saw this tweet:

AngDroid

Milestone2 users thanks for support! Able to obtain device now, thanks!

3 Feb

So, it's 10 feb, what's the news? :D
[Milestone 2 General] komos:
the fact that angdroid was donated by ms2 users

doesn't make him obliged to make a rom

neither that he is capable to pass by moto locked devices

i realy wish he can make it but i don't think so
[Milestone 2 General] axes90:
Let's just assume that he isn't that kind of an asshole :D

and btw: he managed to make a rom for the Droid 2, didn't he?

He only couldn't make a MS2 port because of hardware lack. How are you supposed to create a bugfree rom if you're not able to test it yourself?

So now that he's able to buy one, and hopefully will buy one xD, there will be some progress...
[Milestone 2 General] chibani:
He told me (on monday) he was on a deal to buy one.

I've also seen he may have found someone to buy his "old" phone (D2)
[Milestone 2 General] kanek06:
Nice, i hope when its good rom ... if its obly 1 custom rom - ok ... but it need to be great one ...
[Milestone 2 General] komos:
did he?

or he made his version with someone's else code?

or was it a pseudo rom ?

i don't know him and i don't know his job

i wish he can do it
[Milestone 2 General] axes90:
If you don't know him and don't know what he did, why bother and trying to meet trouble half the way?
[Milestone 2 General] chibani:
Just got an email from Angdroid.

He has bought a M2 in a store, he will get it in the beginning of next week :D

Stay tuned :cool:
[Milestone 2 General] TomaszD84:
Thanks for keeping us up to date!
[Milestone 2 General] slayer03:
I'm very impatient!
[Milestone 2 General] oTToToTenTanz:
Thanks for the news, chibani!
[Milestone 2 General] kezs:
Cool! Right before I get my M2 (upgrading from M1). I hope I won't even have to try the stock rom :)
[Milestone 2 General] skejpa:
hope

Hearing, that Angdroid is finaly getting his own MM2 fills me with happines ! Maybe i'll buy it too, when there'll be new rom :) Looking forward to it.
[Milestone 2 General] micduffy:
check this out - sounds promising :

http://www.teamdefuse.com/angdroids-hiatus/
[Milestone 2 General] falecomcyber:
Everyday i check the Angdroid's twitter. lol

He gives an idea of how many days/weeks he probably needs to port the rom for the Milestone 2?
[Milestone 2 General] rodi1981:
Read his first post in this forum

He wrote 2-3 day so lets hope is ready by end of this week
[Milestone 2 General] axes90:
"Have alpha M2 ROM but radio not working yet, problem with dialer. Hit me up if you want to test other functions. Will not post alpha on forums."

Badass tester to the front!
[Milestone 2 General] Rotkaeqpchen:
I'd like to know what version number it is. Also please tell me if the Wifi bug is finally gone.

Could you try to find the SBFs version 2.4.17, 2.4.18 or 2.4.20 `?
[Milestone 2 General] axes90:
ask him personally via twitter or sth.. since he said that he wont publish alphas in the forum
[Milestone 2 General] Puuh:
Where can i find the SBF Files für DACH region? I have only 2.2.16 ...?!

thx :cool:
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11424478#post11424478
[Milestone 2 General] Puuh:
thx - nice archive. but there is also the 2.2.16 SBF File for DACH and DE O2. I think there is no other/newer one, or? whats the different from 2.2.x to the brazil 3.12? only the naming of the file?!

thx

Puuh
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
If you ask if there is a newer German SBF .. no sorry.. im using the Brazil one.. i dont care much about the QWERTY layout and the english language.. im german though.. but i read/write more english on a day than german.. so its kinda acceptable :P.. also it has less bugs (as i noticed)
[Milestone 2 General] cyaniris:
It seems Moto has removed those sbf download links :(
[Milestone 2 General] Shellite:
I am uploading the uk SBF to rapidshare now, will update link in the next ~7 hrs when I wake up..

Here you go: http://rapidshare.com/files/4490966...XMILE20RTGB_P029_A007_HWp2a_Service1FF.sbf.gz

Hope this helps :cool:
[Milestone 2 General] kanek06:
What is Angroid's twitter?
[Milestone 2 General] thmedia:
His twitter is liked in his signature
[Milestone 2 General] crik91:
I started reading the thread, but after ten pages I have not succeeded. What is it?

Thanks.
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
What is what.. the file? .. the file is a firmware service flash file..
[Milestone 2 General] crik91:
Yes, I know. But what is it? Is the original firmware of milestone 2?
[Milestone 2 General] santiemanuel:
I made a Custom ROM based on Brasilian sbf. Needs a bit of work cause i made it without the device in my hands. Here's the link http://bit.ly/ennSno

If you want me to post it here let me know but i dont know if the 3G hack like in A853 works .
[Milestone 2 General] kanek06:
@thmedia: LOL sorry, I was here by TapaTalk ... so I didn't saw the signature ... I feel dummy :D
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
Awsome work!, but only spanish? :/.. i would enjoy atleast an english translation.. was kinda hard to navigate trough all that since GoogleTranslate didnt work properly.. and Angdroid is kinda dead in the last time... !

Please stay international :)!! So everyone can enjoy that work!
[Milestone 2 General] santiemanuel:
The forum is Argentinian like me. I will traslate it ASAP. As it got a little problem cause a mod in build.prop. anybody knows if 3G hack works here? Baseband files.
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
I dont know anything about the 3G thing but for your information:

In your ROM on my german Milestone2 with a German Carrier (o2)

+ 3G/HDSPA works!

+ Calling/SMS works!

- MotoBlur Account does not sign in at the Set-Up (I dont really care.. but its annoying)

? USB Debugging Mode does NOT work!!! (Maybe its my PC.. as i noticed the Bootloader doesnt work aswell lol.. so i dont count this as a bug!)

Thanks again! Looks like a start into the Custom area :).. Also are there any themes yet? Like ASOP?

ALSO!!: Another question.. is it possible to get Languages out of another SBF?? Like the UK/German..
[Milestone 2 General] santiemanuel:
MotoBlur doesnt sign up cause the bad mod of build.prop (fixable). there are a theme in roottools script(type su then magicbox). Actually Making honey theme to my theme system. Type overclock in terminal to set presets or custom scaling(undervolt)

About german, when i get my Milestone 2 i can flash a german sbf and port my things there.
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
Im kinda skilled so if you need help at anything just ask!

I have no problem with flashing.. i flash my MS2 like every 2nd day!

Also if you need any file.. just ask!

PS: You should add this to your Rom: http://yuanjie.name/entry/milestone-2-mp3-crackling-playback-issue-solved

So the rom fixes the MP3 bugs aswell.. i tested those libarys on my MS2 using 2 SBF's (german and brazil)

PS2: Isnt it possible to export the language files of the German SBF??? I would enjoy using german language on the BRazil SBF since the brazil one is more up to date!

Yet i dont know where the language files are at.. i think in the framework-res.apk.. but could be somewhere else aswell i really dont know... never found them

PS3: What about a MIUI Theme Port Apple sucks but their Style is awsome.. ^^.. i would enjoy it.. :P.. but meh its just a lil dream lol, thanks another time.. is it easyer to theme with your rom? If yes.. i should take a look into it.. and start theming with it.. i already ported DarkEdge theme of the MS1 to the MS2.. but themeing apps is kinda annoying especially the Moto**** apps.. but now that the rom offers stock ..
[Milestone 2 General] santiemanuel:
I created a topic in Milestone 2 General to stop the offtopic here. Nice the mp3 fixes. About traslation files i think you need settings.apk. the themeing is easy. Just the blur apps need dependencies in apktool. For the friday i will have a lot of time to fix a lot of things. Thanks for the feedback.
[Milestone 2 General] philhgw:
Any infos from Angroid? Any progess? There are no news on Twitter :(
[Milestone 2 General] chibani:
I've sent him an email, 3 days ago, and I have no answer at this time :(
[Milestone 2 General] micduffy:
To me, it seems like the whole "buy me a MS2 phone" seems like a bit of a scam...

Also, back in December of last year, he said that it would only take him 3 days to deliver a Fission ROM for MS2.

Paging Angdroid to the thread...
[Milestone 2 General] chibani:
I can't agree with the "sam theory".

I know Angdroid is really (I mean REEEEEAAAALLY) busy. He has sent to some ppl a pre-alpha version of a M2 ROM last week. Since this "private"-release, we have no news...

If he just wanted to scam, he could promote this "support campaign" more actively, but it's not the case.

I have proposed him my help to get a M2. If there could be a scammer, it would be me. But, my Paypal account has not moved at all during the "support campaign" :D
[Milestone 2 General] oTToToTenTanz:
Yes, Angdroid did not initially launch the support campaign. He just recently got his M2 and I'm sure we will see some progress very soon!
[Milestone 2 General] skulljoi:
i dont see fission rom yet, but i see some argentrom dont test, but allready have a custom rom for ms2 :|

i waiting for fission!
[Milestone 2 General] kanek06:
Make a new thread for better orientation please! :)
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
He did.. look general forum
[Milestone 2 General] sahilarora911:
Any latest news about Fission for MS2??

Angdroid dude.. where r u??
[Milestone 2 General] chibani:
Excellent question (I feel like f*cked) ...

I currently have installed Argen2stone ...
[Milestone 2 General] mnx:
maybe he have a social life, and many things to do other than firmware...

(I hope because I've donate :?)
[Milestone 2 General] chibani:
I think he has a social life ( and all that stuff ^^), but a tiny mail or an answer in this thread would be sooooo greatly appreciated :rolleyes:
[Milestone 2 General] sahilarora911:
I'm not asking him to give up everything and work on Fission for MS2..

Just a small update will suffice.. Thats all..

@Chibani: Even I'm using Argen2Stone.. but the more the better ;)
[Milestone 2 General] chibani:
I've just received an email from Angdroid.

He is really busy (work/life...) and has worked on his M2 ROM (he currently has troubles with the radio).

He'll post here as soon as he'll get some-working-thing :)
[Milestone 2 General] oTToToTenTanz:
Good to hear, eventhough it's the same as it has been for a few weeks now. Haha. Still optimistic!
[Milestone 2 General] chibani:
You're that optimistic ! (and realistic ^^)
[Milestone 2 General] DeadSix17:
didnt he say that like 2 weeks ago aswell?
[Milestone 2 General] Atomos33:
So this is it. This whole thread was just a Joke?
[Milestone 2 General] :
I have refrained from contributing to the speculation until now but if it is a joke is it on us. I was silly enough to send him the balance he required ($75) so he could make a start but lesson learnt (again) I guess. It really doesn't take that much effort to login and post a status update assuming he is in goodhealth.
[Milestone 2 General] chibani:
It seems ... unfortunately...
[Milestone 2 General] philhgw:
Twitter<news from Angroid: "Boo! HoneyComb theme beta I on FRM for D2...bbl with more news. Everything ok...just really busy :)"

So, stay tuned...
[Milestone 2 General] chibani:
He talks about the D2, not the M2 ... (kinda pessimistic ...)
[Milestone 2 General] kanek06:
He is running out from his problems. OK, I am sometimes busy too, but when I am making something and I don't have time, I post a bit words when I am busy because something. I have never made something, when I will write e-mail to someone and he will post it here, maybe when I was in hospital. But we can see, he is working on anything, but no on this ...
[Milestone 2 General] n3man:
Hey, heres an idea! lets all all moan and complain - that will encourage him. Seriously guys, its not a perfect siuation, but this sort of thing is not going to help. For now, if you cant wait, use argenstone... otherwise, bank on the fact that angdroid is a well known android developer with a reputation that he will most likely want maintain - he is unlikely to throw that away just to get a milestone 2.

His other roms rock, and there is no reason fission rom will not. Id say it is partialy that the guy just has his fingers in too many pies and just wants to make sure this rom is perfect before he releases it. Has anyone spoken to the users who tested his early build?
[Milestone 2 General] AragornPE:
Hello angdroid, are you still there?
[Milestone 2 General] Phanes:
Angdroid, you did cry for cash for a M2 now you have it and no result?

What a fa.ot ...
[Milestone 2 General] savagecabage:
as far as i can tell it was everybody else that was crying for him to get an M2
[Milestone 2 General] Phanes:
@ savagecabage

please don´t give me that crap, he accepted it and took the money. he agreed to develop a custom rom based in fission, now after weeks no sign, no status no nothing.

f.a.k.e or rookie ... choose what you prefer
[Milestone 2 General] kanek06:
I am feeling ****ed :D
[Milestone 2 General] Atomos33:
Angdroid haven't post anything since the 24th january...

So maybe he's really busy with something. Or maybe we're screwed in both case posting here won't be any help at all.

Wait or do something something useful but flood is just making thing worst.
[Milestone 2 General] Phanes:
aham ..., so why then you write here?

I think it is necessary to point out that if you promise something you have to keep it.
[Milestone 2 General] Moody:
Crap, makes me want a Milestone 2 as well. Reading for my sig you can see that I'm no bull****-porter ;)

It's all so easy to be done once you have the right knowledge, and I do.. damnit :p

Could work on it if someone was to give me a nandroid backup but no guarantees since I don't own the phone. Somehow I regret buying my desire z, which is odd since it has every custom rom possible, is an official CM device and it's faster and stronger. Oh well, might consider switching if the rom works ;)

So again, please DO pm me and I will see what I can do. I _REALLY_ don't want to get your hopes up, but if you never try, you never know. Right? Right. :)

Edit: Just to add, take a look at the milestone forums. it was impossible for many many days from it's release to see anything else different from the stock rom and look at it now, someone named Dexter_nlb bought the phone and ported froyo. This was enough to inspire other developers to buy it as well and they made custom roms possible.

But now that I come to think of it, getting GSM to work could be a real pain in the ... sincce I doubt motorola named the library files from the droid2 the same as on the milestone2 and I think it's a bit deeper integrated. But again I say, hard and impossible are two complete different worlds! And giving up is something you won't find in my dictionary ;)

The reason I stopped working on the x10 mini pro was that I met someone who was wanting to take over my work, (which he did, and was quite good at it as well) and I wanted to get me a desire Z. I haven't abandoned the mini pro because I gave up on it. I did first want to make sure that the project would continue and leave the whole x10 mini pro community stuck with a semi working froyo and no dev's.

With that said I'm going to finish this post, since I don't think you would want to hear any more of my personal life and would prefer to see me try stuff ;) But I'll need your help guys really, if you won't help me (giving the nandroid backup) I can't help you either, no matter how badly I want it. Let's just say I love to help a whole community and do something awesome for them :)

First thing I'll work on is CM6.

Why 6, you ask? Because the stock milestone2 build is based on froyo as well, so library's should be more easy to be switched to one another. If we manage to get CM6 booting I'll let my mind focus on other stuff like CyanogenMod7
[Milestone 2 General] skejpa:
I'd propadly be glad, if you wont give up creating your own rom :) We dont know, if and when angdroid will post his rom. :) But it is only suggestion :-)
[Milestone 2 General] oTToToTenTanz:
What did you see on the teamdefuse website? Because I haven't seen any news other than Angdroids message from Feb 13,telling us that Milestone 2 Rom work has begun...Not a sign of life afterwards.
[Milestone 2 General] Moody:
Oh yes, it was very late last night, must've made a mistake in the date :p I'll edit the post. But I have this very weird thing bothering my mind. I have a Desire Z, I even have a case for it. It's faster in every single way. It has custom roms, yet I STILL want a Milestone 2 instead of it!?

I guess I've grown used to creating stuff myself and running it and since everything's been done on the Desire Z/G2 already there isn't much to do left. Well, and I know you guys are going to laugh your a**es off, but I'm trying to port motoblur to the Desire Z :p

I really don't understand what the issue should be with porting CM6 and am really wondering why it hasn't been done. Guess it ain't as easy as it seems? The way I see it is:

Analyze/ask people on the d2 forums which propetiary (<--don't know if I spelled that right but you get what I mean) Use those files from the MileStone (but keep in mind that it's gsm, not cdma) and build cyanogenmod?
[Milestone 2 General] axes90:
Well ur enthusiasm puts my hopes high again at least.

The Milestone 1 had a locked bootloader like the MS2, but somehow they managed to run another kernel...

I doubt there is no way in doing so with the MS2 as well... I mean... its motorola >.> no way they're that capable
[Milestone 2 General] p.gregy:
I think you are mistaken. IMHO they used motorola kernel and built around it.
[Milestone 2 General] Moody:
See since we have an Froyo kernel there really is no need to change it. Kernel modules can be insmodded and froyo will boot up just fine. On the x10 mini pro, which I've ported CM to, well, the beginnings, I didn't have to use any other kernel and the thing just worked on the eclair-based kernel. Also since we have an froyo-based kernel CM6 should run blazingly fast, whereas CM7 would be hard to port and would probably not get a much higher speed, but it should be faster anyway.
[Milestone 2 General] w0ndersp00n:
You make it sound so easy! I wish I was able to make custom ROMs. To bad I'm not enough of a hacker to do that... And I lack the time to learn right now :-(
[Milestone 2 General] Moody:
People, please. I can't do anything for y'all if no one gives me a nandroid backup! :(
[Milestone 2 General] Atomos33:
You need a stock unchanged nandroid backup or my actual configuration will be fine?
[Milestone 2 General] momus87:
Mikevhl,

What files from the nandroid backup do you need?

I'm currently uploading a stock and rooted system.img and will publish the link as soon as it's done.

But the clockworkmod that droid2 bootstraper installs (the only way to get cwm on milestone2) only allows backup and restore of the followings :

system.img

data.img

cache.img

.android_secure.img

It has probabily a link with the locked bootloader thing, but we can not provide you a boot.img.