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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
Full Exchange support would be nice. Even 2.3 is pretty fail there.

ZuneHD or iTouch?

Push Notifications (2.2+ only with hardly any apps using it).

A native video calling app?

Hardware-accellerated UI with no lag?

I can go on for days. What exactly do you people use the phone for? Its supposed to simplify your life.

Android widgets aren't all that hot and it uses about as much icons as iOS.

Seems like so many Android users are fixates on thimhs that don't matter and have comvinced themselves that Android offers everything in the world, when it certifiably does not. Polish and efficiency definitely aren't terms in Google's vocab, but that's okay.

The manufacturers can always throw hardware at these problems!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawn605:
iPhone may have more apps AVAILABLE, but since there's no SD card how will ever install the 680,000 apps they have? ;)

Last fall I had to choose between iPhone and Android (it wasn't really an iPhone vs Vibrant contest yet)... I chose Android because Google didn't care if I hacked at the phone, installed 3rd party apps or installed an SD card because the phone may lack space...

When I got the Vibrant - and realized how easy it was to hack at - I knew I made the correct choice.

I wouldn't care if Android had 2 billion apps to choose from - so long as the phone could do what *I* wanted.

Ultimately it's up to you... Absolute customizable functionality or the need to follow the lemmings..
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reuthermonkey:
And it seems that so many Android nay-sayers tend to ignore significant advantages that Android has so that they can make themselves feel superior for whatever reason.

There are EVERYDAY things that regular ol' people use that Android does better than iOS.

1. Notification bar. Seriously, my girlfriend has an HTC Hero, and she uses the hell out of that notification bar. Instead of being forced to immediately respond to forced popups in iOS like she had to when she used to have her iPhone, she can get to those notifications when SHE wants to - not when the phone wants her to.

2. customizable lock screen: Both HTC Sense and TouchWiz3 offer just enough info on their lockscreens. Time. Date. Last notification. She turns on her screen, glances for notifications, and gets back to doing what she was doing. But if she doesn't think it does enough, she can replace it with something more informative. SlideScreen anyone?

3. Widgets. Clock Widget with Weather (Better Widgets or Sense). Instead of having to open up the app, she has it right there on her home screen. When she used her iPhone, every morning she'd ask me what the weather would be. With her Hero, she knows it in an instant.

4. Navigation. For free. In her pocket.

5. Swype. I installed it on her phone right when she got it. Asked her to try it out for a week. When i updated her Hero to a new ROM a couple weeks ago, she demanded that I install Swype again.

Oh, and the apps that she actually used (Urbanspoon, Groupon, Facebook, etc) are nearly identical to their iOS counterparts. No loss of quality.

Is iOS as a whole more polished? yes.

But implying that Android fixates on things which "don't matter" while iOS is full of substance makes me seriously question your purported objectivity.

And then there's the fact that future versions of Android have API's to implement hardware acceleration at an OS level, so the OS should finally improve to a level of fluidity that iOS has had almost since day one.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawn605:
Reasons *I* believe Vibrant is better than iPhone...

SD Card.

Store DOESN'T REQUIRE credit card for FREE apps.

Refunds for buying bad apps (not locked to store)

Ability to install 3rd party apps.

Google Voice (and not via webpage)

Live Wallpapers

Bigger screen.

No SIP/VOIP restrictions (that I can tell)

Google doesn't lock out developers (like Apple does)

Replace the battery w/Vibrant.

Standard SIM Card supported.

You can USB to the various memory options as a DRIVE

Optional Launchers (like Launcher Pro)

Vibrant Can Play Xvid AVI's

Vibrant Can be restored if soft-bricked.

Vibrant can be tweaked to be more than twice as fast as stock.

Wifi HotSpots (I may be wrong claiming you can't do this on the iPhone)

Vibrant (you can add a FFC if you choose)

FREE Angry Birds ;)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KnowledgeBroker:
Even with a jailbreak, the iPhone is not nearly as customizable as any android, a stock android has an operating system that will allow you to do so much more than you can on an iPhone, rooting it just allows you to give certain apps the ability to do things they normally can't, and to modify your system. Because google puts out apps that embrace rooting, because they don't have a separate market for root apps.. the final product will be much more cohesive.

Apple is a good product for people who are not tech savvy, but the direction they are taking their actual operating system(osx combined with ios) I don't see them lasting the long haul. Eventually those non-tech savvy people will learn enough to where they will use devices that can do more. PC's do so well because you can customize the hardware and they are more affordable.. I see android taking up a similar trend. They may have more of a learning curve, but you can pick what you want rather than be given something and expected to like it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
She has an HTC Hero. She has absolutely no choice but to use the notification bar. Things are different when you've used a platform with push notifications that pop it up on the screen like iOS and even to some extent WP7. It works better than pulling down and dealing with a clunky notification bar.

The first time I used an iPhone, these notifications shocked me (got a "WTF look on my face, puzzled somewhat") but after using it for a bit it grown on me, the same way my mom's Blackberry has grown on me due to it's integration with RIM's push platform. C2DM is here but it gets terrible developer support and lots of Android devs seem ignorant of its benefits. They rather poll, etc. and kill your battery.

I guess Android's Notification bar wouldn't be an issue if an external LED notification wasn't such a luxury on Android phones. My HD2's notification screen was worse than Android's, but it didn't matter because I didn't need to stare at it when something came in. It had a Notification LED.

That's not a significant advantage. This is a severe letdown given your sensationalized verbiage...

Clock widgets are useless since it's trivial to see what time it is. It's right there on the notification bar, or on the lock screen. Waste of screen real estate and phone resources (battery, etc.). Weather widgets are dubious.

The only useful widgets are those that show information that aren't trivially accessible without even unlocking the device. Even then, there aren't that many good ones.

Swype isn't available unless you have an OEM version on your phone or the application was pirated.

If you seriously think apps like Facebook are of identical quality to their iOS counterparts, then you seriously haven't used iOS in any serious capacity. Android apps are afterthoughts compared to their iOS counterparts.

I said Android users fixate on things that don't matter. Read your own post.

Lock Screen. Weather and Clock Widgets. Pirated Swype keyboards...

Yes, you guys fixate on a bunch of stuff that doesn't matter, while ignoring things that do.

Good Exchange support matters. A Lock screen doesn't.

Push Notifications matter way more than Swype, unless you're 12 years old.

I don't even want to comment on the Widget comment anymore - Lol. There is room for making good Widgets, but developers simply fail at doing so. The only decent widget that I've used is the Touchdown "Upcoming Event" widget. Pretty much everything else I've seen is useless (and yes, I have brought and refunded Beautiful Widgets - FC's all the time and gets terrible performance on my phone).
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
Why would anyone want to install that many Apps. Even most Android users do not install more than many 20 or so Apps. That many apps simply aren't needed. The space is best used for media and things like that - and in that department the iPhone is heads and shoulders above Android (as is WP7, Symbian, and WM6.5).

When Google has their own Music Store that *may change*, if they also release a decent media integration for Android devices as well.

I don't think some of you people realize how clunky and rudimentary USB Mass Storage is on a phone. It's for shame Samsung hasn't released Kies here in the US.

Also, iPhone users are no more lemmings than people who all shout "customizeable, yay!" in one accord when someone compares an Android device to a WP7/iOS device...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
Let's put it this way guys...I bought android so I can use google products...but look what happened now...GV went to apple to and it looks even better there...same as google latitude...trust me every thing google offers....iphone has it...we android users...esp vibrant can't even get google instant.....and iphone, itouch has it...that not fair man...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paging Dr B:
very well said. Both are great devices, but he's really are asking the wrong guys. That's like going into a nikon forum asking if you should get a d7000 or a canon 60d.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dallas2214:
keep both OP and get a microsim to full sim adapter thats what im doing adapter was 99 cents shipped
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] junglizste:
I only missed my 3GS for words with friends.

Wordfeud on android came out and I haven't missed it for a second.

drag and drop files, removable battery and removable mem card are huge for me. When you have an iphone you think: "why do I need a replaceable battery, I'll just plug it in" until you have 2 spare batteries and you wonder how you ever lived without them.

FLAC, divx and xvid playback pretty great too.

vibrant AMOLED owns all. all other screens look dated to me now. although pentile matrix pisses me off when i'm trying read tiny text.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawn605:
The number of apps was sarcasm... iPhone fanboys always like to tout the number of apps... And actually I think I was responding to that very statement.

Music store wise I don't care. I buy CDs or tracks elsewhere, not from iTunes. iTunes may be nice but they aren't the only kid on the block selling tunes. And let's face it, if you don't get your "media" from iTunes, it will most likely require converting on an iPhone. My Vibrant has played everything I've fed it so far.

USB mass storage may be clunky, but it means that I can virtually put anything on the phone and get at from virtually anywhere or on any other computer. I don't have to worry about sectioned off parts of memory being used "as storage". It's ALL storage.

The Vibrant, IMO, is far better in features and functionality over the iPhone.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iynfynity:
the iphone has more hassle than android.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmalott:
Best advice. This is what I would tell any friend or family member to base their choice on. I got bored with the iPhone within a week b/c I felt like there was nothing to do with it after setting it up. But even though my Vibrant has some glaring issues IMO, I would easily buy it over the iPhone.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
if you're a chick go with the one that has the best vibration capabilities
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonie972:
I see lots of ignorant comments and fanboy from android users (i know it's an android forum) which cloud their judgements. You can have info such as weather, miss calls, text messages on the iphone too.

Honestly, the only negative things about the iphone are:

1. No google sync

2. No Drag and drop

3. No Widgets because I do use BW for calendars, Wifi, alarm, ect...

4. Notification

I don't even use SD card when the Vibrant already has 16GB, but that doesn't mean other people don't use it. Honestly, how many of you really use SD?

Does not require if your phone is jailbroken.

That's where jailbroken comes in to play

. I don't see the point of this because there's where third apps party drain the crap out of android battery

Not sure about webpage but iphone does have google voice

if you want your phone died within couple of hours and it lags your phone

Yes, that's what I love about android

no clue

I think it's best if apple controls it.

I don't know about you but in my experience, the iphone 4 battery will outlast the vibrant.

Yes, I see this is some what an advantage

Yup

Yup, but not really an advantage to some

I don't watch movies on my phone and don't know any android users (friends) that do.

I guess you never had an iphone

Yet, I think the iphone 4 is still faster because of their polished IOS

apparently you are wrong

And you can destroyed your vibrant if your messed up

again, jailbreak
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reuthermonkey:
Now i know for sure you're trolling. If you were actually reading, you'd see that she already had an iphone. She switched from an iphone to a hero.

Are you seriously saying you think the 1995 style iphone popup notifications are not only better, but that they are "puzzlingly" good?

Holy trollcakes! Notification lights are a luxury? The hero has it. The g1 had it. In fact only samsung doesn't seem to like notification lights.

How bout this: off you don't like android so much, again, why are you constantly trolling in here? Mental deficiency?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbm21:
i had an iphone 4 and jailbreaking is retarded first of all if you want to jailbreak to get free angrey birds your pirating. and if you want to pirate on android you can too, and it doesnt need to be root because of 3rd party apps and if you run out of space (like i did) you cant get an sd card for 20$ instead of a brand new phone. jailbreak makes the phone slow and makes it crash. and yes i had an iphone 4, removed unnecessary launchdeamons and when it was jailbroken it was never faster or had better battery life then my rooted vibrant does. oh and also anything you can do while jailbroken i can do on stock including things like flash player. AND im not stock on a crappy expensive carrier AND i can hold my phone however i want AND the back of my phone doesnt crack while taking off a case (it did on my iphone) And the screen doesn't turn on when im making calls and it touches my face. so if you want an iphone you can but once you get tired of ten pages of the same things and 100 flashlight apps then i sugjest you switch to android so you don't have to deal with apple's crap
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eagles20015:
iphone is good for beginners but really is a dumbed down smartphone. Its like arguing pc vs mac
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paging Dr B:
It's important to note one thing. I rooted my phones because they have all had stupid issues with them, whether it be lag, or stupid UI decisions. When I first got my vibrant i wanted to see how long I could go without rooting it. I didn't even last a full 24 hours due to lag. I think it's safe to say that most of us arrived at XDA because we feel that we need to speed up our phones. The time that I spent with my iPhone4, I never felt that. It just worked the way it was supposed to most of the time. Android is fun if you want to deal with flashing roms, soft-bricking, nandroid backups and restoring apps using titanium.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonie972:
it's retarded to jailbreak to get free angry birds? jailbreaking isn't just for games, but for many other features. Jailbreaking on iPhone is super easy compare to android (it's easy on android too, but some couldn't get it work on certain devices). Who said anything about jailbreaking iphone will increase its performance and battery life? You are lying if you said the iPhone 4 doesn't have better battery life than the vibrant and IOS is definitely smoother than android at the moment. Your iphone cracked because you don't know how to take care of it. Most if not alll of the issues you mentioned has already been fixed. I use my vibrant to talk, text, schedules, and web browsing, I don't look at how beauty each panel looks. I'm not an iPhone fanboy or Android, but I still think iPhone has the edge except for the features that I mentioned above.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iynfynity:
who the hell told you that 3rd party apps drains the android battery
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonie972:
Maybe I forgot to say SOME
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbm21:
@tonie

1 jailbreaking's retarded because it DECREASES battery life and performance , and getting angry birds for free on ios is illegal

2. i broke the back of my iphone by taking off the case they gave me, i never even dropped it

3. and no they have not fixed the antenna problem its hardware

4. although i do wish i had gotten a different android phone
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacGuy2006:
Huh? Do you even know what you are talking about?

BTW, the iPhone has considerably better battery life than the Vibrant. That's a fact.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbm21:
@macguy

Ok the battery may be better on most but it was bad on mine

These are just my experiences yes I no what I'm talking about
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intruda119:
Just use your iphone. This section on vibrant must be dead when a comparison thread reaches 9 pages. We obviously have nothing better to discuss.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alex530:
Is there something you can do without jailbreaking it?

Sent from the Bermuda Triangle.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ms_Vibrant:
and these features give convenience to the end-users right? when i had to transfer my songs from the ipod touch to my new laptop , i had to install a software to be able to transfer the song into itunes.. so we can agree that drag n drop is pretty convenient right?

widgets just make the screen looks better and less dull..LOL, it's one of the reasons why i like android.. LOL

i think a lot of people like to have movies, music vids, songs, vids, bunch of pics .. etc on their phones.. that's the best part of having an SD card, at least it's there when you need it even if you dont need it now.. an option for you

and that's equivalent to umm piracy?

i hate this part.. that it soo hard to refund your apps.. so what about the regular customers who are not jailbroken?

jailbreaking slows the phone down.. i noticed that..

it doesnt matter if it will kill your battery fast.. but the fact that the feature is there simply suggests the good functionality and capability of android OS and which implies that iOS is behind in innovation.. besides, you can turn it off if you want to..

which leads to a troublesome scenario when you lost your laptop or totally fried your computer and lost your itunes.. yup.. how convenient

yup an option for different launchers such as LP or ADW is good, at least these launchers are readily available for those who opt to use them.. a good feature of android..

again.. this makes watching movies and listening to songs a lot more convenient even for the average users without the need to convert the file formats.. convenient right.. even your recorded vids on your flip cam can be easily be transfered into your vibrant..

faster?? umm i dont think so, but smoother? yes..

you need to jailbreak to get angry birds? why is it free on android and not on iphone? i dont get it

email may be better on iphone, but i have gmail as my primary email to use.. and gmail is push... the ones on my default email app are those that are not really essential, so they can take as long as they want to arrive in my notification bar, i could care less.. LOL

and also , can you pause a game your playing when you need to make a call or text or browse the web on the iphone? then after those tasks , can you get back to the game you were playing and resume? not really sure, maybe you can now?

( this is not an overly exerted effort of mine to make the OP pick the vibrant over the iphone, but mere viewpoints with regard to two different great OS'.. lol)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
wow. Just Wow...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neur0t0xin64:
I don't know if you've decided yet but here are my 2 cents since I had the same issue...

Depends on what you do with it.

I play games, listen to music all day, and watch lots of videos. Therefore, I chose the vibrant for it's screen, speaker, and graphics quality even though I am a "Mac guy" and have a Mac Me account, and have had 4 iPhones.

However, if you just use it for the very basics; email, text, minor game and multimedia usage, go with the iPhone 4 since it has a much longer battery life and seems to be easier to sync.

Hope my decision points help you as well. I know it's a hard decision, particularly when it's a freakin $500 phone!

Good Luck
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sw20matt:
the first and one of the most important reasons I choose android is because Apple is like the Nazis. They have a very tight death grip on everything they make. They can pull apps from the market just because they simply dont like them, and no hardware can be added to the phone without apples say so (someone tryed to make a case w/flash for the 3g).

second. apple dose have more apps, but apple has also been out for a few years before android. and like said earlier most are now being ported to android and more good devs are starting to program for this phone.

and lastly. If you look at the wave of when android started to now they went from one phone on tmobile to around 3 or more phones per phone company. so that means that any apps you buy can transfer to a different phone and you aren't stuck to just one provider. If things keep going the way the are android will rule the market.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dominic77m:
this one is easy

okay guys.... if you want to know which is best, take a good look at the recent CONSUMER REPORT MAGAZINE that just came out last month.

The Vibrant was rated number 1 in the T-Mobile carrier. And you there were many other phones too, but guess what the iPhone 4 was rated???

N/A. You know why? Because Consumer Report Magazine said they couldn't even recommend the iPhone 4 because of the drop called issue which is basically hardware that can't be fixed by software.

End of story. The Vibrant got a 76 rating and that tied with other phones from other carriers. Verizon had the best line up of phones.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iynfynity:
looking at that survey wouldn't really help when you are deciding to choose between the 2. You need to test it, and the vibrant has some issues too.
[Gen8 General] cajl:
Why is it impossible to use the tethering by BT between the Archos Gen 8 and more android phone ?

fortunately on the nexus one i wil be create a hotspot

but for another phones have you a solution ?
[Gen8 General] fnetf:
Hy with Samsung Galaxy 9000 it works very easy. Build up a Mobile Hotspot on the SGS and Connect with to the Archos, works perfectly.
[Gen8 General] cajl:
why it don't work for anothers phones

n1 by eg ?
[Gen8 General] TempestDK:
You can get it to work on N1 too ... but I don't think it is built into the phone though.

I use CyanogenMod 6 on my N1, and there are only options to do Wifi Hotspot (which burns battery power like there is no tomorrow) or USB tehtering.

But if you use the app called Wireless Tether, you can use BT tethering between your Gen8 and your phone.

Rockstar from ArchosFans' forums made a vid on how to do that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN4hBqIyI-U
[Gen8 General] cajl:
i use the same

but for many android phones it is not possible