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[Nexus S General] demo23019:
Thats CPU score only and this is good if true and shows that hummingbird will now take advantage of JIT but kind of doesn't make sense. because if its now on par with snapdragon on CPU why does it score low in linpack.

I understand snapdragon use 128 bit pipeline were hummingbird only uses 64 so it has twice the pipeline for data...kind of like what hyper-threading does for intel im thinking

Does quadrant cpu benchmark test mflops ?

Im really confused i really hate quadrant even without lagfix these stupid jit...ect shouldn't effect raw performance of hardware just goes to show this benchmark is pointless and can be manipulated to give inaccurate results

We need a PC based benchmark company to step in and produce one...futuremark had something but haven't heard anything more than some video i seen demonstrating it.

Shouldn't matter what OS you're running ect it should just test RAW performance like PC benchmarks do.
[Nexus S General] emuneee:
From what the article says, the Snapdragon has a faster FPU (floating point unit) which makes it significantly faster in Linpack.
[Nexus S General] Anderdroid:
^^^^^^^^^

Linpack is all about the FPU.

Actual user experience is all about the GPU ;)

40+ MFLOPS can suck on my 90+fps rendering Quake 3 Arena when the 56fps cap is removed ;)

Oh, and the butterery smooth app drawer ;D
[Nexus S General] badersama:
Bring on the scores!

i think it will be in the 2k-2.5k range
[Nexus S General] n1kki6:
Just got mine, trying to run the quadrant but the app keeps dying on the second 3d test.
[Nexus S General] irishrally:
Mine crashes often too but I did get it to complete once and I got 1805. Something is definitely wrong though as it does not seem to render the spinning globe properly.
[Nexus S General] SamsungVibrant:
Some Quadrant Screen Shots Please!

Now that some of you have the Nexus S, if you wouldn't mind, some "Quadrant Advanced" or "Quadrant Professional" screen shots would be awesome!

I'm not really interested in the raw total score that Quadrant free shows, but whatever if that's all you got, would be cool to see those scores also.

Really wanna see the advanced score breakdown though!

Thanks
[Nexus S General] davados:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays/8 full round up of scores
[Nexus S General] demo23019:
one i ran yesterday before rooting

nice the nice cpu boost over galaxy S Google seems to have gotten the JIT situated for humming bird

i was only lucky to get to run once 3D rendering seems a bit off probably due to 2.3. Causing missing textures and crashing test during almost every 3D run . Probably whats causing the slightly lower 3D score than galaxy s

Again this is crappy quadrant so....but nice to see a samsung s phone with a decent score without any kind of exploit
[Nexus S General] Androidfreakz:
All these scores are like comparing apples to bananas. Its a freaking phone lol jeez. Best score I've seen on an NS is 1985 which mean nothing really compared to real world use.
[Nexus S General] SamsungVibrant:
THANK YOU for posting that pic!! Seems like Google fixed the Dalvik Jit Compiler issue, seems like it is finally optimizied for the Hummingbird.

EXCELLENT NEWS!!!!!!
[Nexus S General] demo23019:
just to clear the air with people who thought something was up with hardware because NS scores lower on some 3d benchmarks than galaxy s phone

I installed 2.3 on my vibrant and ran quadrant and has the same issue the NS has on 3D and score dropped compared to being on 2.2 so its the software not being optimized for 2.3

yea its been mentioned already that this was probably the case well just wanted to share this with people e who had there doubts

also ignore the I/O its becasue i have voodoo lagfix

also note 3d score is in yellow can compare to other pic i posted above that was ran on NS
[Nexus S General] Kubernetes:
Voodoo doesn't cheat Quadrant, only the loopback mount type lagfixes like OCLF do that. Voodoo just does a straight fs replacement of rfs with ext4, so the score is legit.
[Nexus S General] demo23019:
you miss understood me i was just mentioning that becasue I/O is lower in the NS post above didn't want to confuse :)
[Nexus S General] unremarked:
Took about 20 tries before Quadrant would finally run all the way and yeah, it was messed up like everyone else.

But 2261 is the score I got with the Voodoo kernel from the Android Development section.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] KaKkaR0T:
Could anybody owning a P500 run and post the results of the P500 in Neocore benchmark? I could not find it anywhere.

Thanks.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] gemarc:
Standard kernel 44fps w/o touch display, but 15fps with touch.

OC kernel 748mhz 55fps / 24fps.

There display driver issue.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] kokesh:
Where canI get OC kernel?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] gemarc:
Development section, drellisdee created and uploaded oc kernel
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Echelonex:
I flashed my P500 with CyanogenMod7 Mik_os and OC with setCPU on 245/806 Mhz and its stable and i get 59 fps and with touch 45!!! O.O

This is the best phone EVER!!! It runs Heavy Gunner 3d smooth now! framerate drop ocassionaly tho, but before flash it was bearly playable!!! ;D
[Optimus One, P500, V General] viv_jen:
this is at oc 787

smartassv2 governor

best i have got is 56fps

at 806oc

with min/max governor
[Optimus One, P500, V General] sweetnsour:
at 480/600 mhz, this is what i get for each governor:

min/max: 56.5

scary: 56.1

smartassv2: 56.5

savagedzen: 55.8

interactivex: 55.6

ondemand: 54.9

performance: 56.5
[Optimus One, P500, V General] viv_jen:
woah high scores u have there

and 55 on interactivex?

ur using megatron?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] sweetnsour:
nope. i am using andy's phoenix rom, which in my opinion is the best rom out here performance-wise
[Optimus One, P500, V General] pradipsoman:
The best Neocore scores are available with mik 6.6.1 ROM and crosses 70.0 and may reach 74-75 with smartass governor. With mik 6.5.7 and fserve .v19.4-gbs.v18a-cfs, I get around 62. IMHO mik 6.5.7 and fserve .v19.4-gbs.v18a-cfs are the best available ROM and Kernel for P500 in terms of battery life, performance and stability.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] fancccc:
mik_os CM7 v6.6.1 @ 480/729 - smartassv2

latest franco's kernel

with sound:

- normal: 60.1

- touching: 43.6

without sound:

- normal: 63.8

- touching: 54.8
[Optimus One, P500, V General] pradipsoman:
I really wanted to test Andy's latest ROM, but seems some more bugs have to be fixed. I will try it once it's bug free. As of now miks 6.5.7 is totally bug free, stable and powerful with fserve gbs kernel. The scores I get are with 480/768 smartass. Battery life is AWESOME! Goes on for more than 2 full days with moderate usage!
[Optimus One, P500, V General] royal.tarun:
My best result is 76fps on mik's cm7 6.6.1 with franco's. 35 kernel

Oc'ed at 480 min 730 max @ smartass.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dovla_sa:
Hey guys,

After headache with my SGS now i got it finally to work, everything works fine except once booted in cwm i get this error, anyone cares to explain how to get rid of it? Phone works just fine no problems at all, but would still like to get rid of it :)

Any help much appreciated!

Here is the photo,

Cheers

Vlad
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sidh10:
this is what happened

i installed sgs tools...tried the hacked camera.apk

since that was not working, i tried reverting it by running the restore script....

when i opened camera, my screen became black and it has stayed ever since...

i restart my phone and it shows the boot screen, the s shimmers for a long time and then black screen again....

and i cant seem to get into recovery mode.... i have tried many times...

EDIT:got into recovery mode after 100 tries....what do i do now?

i have tried wiping data, and clearing the cache....doesnt solve the issue...

my phone is rooted.....i dont think i'll have warranty..

please help!!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomeks:
if you have 3 button combo working (download mode working) find some rom which you want to install and do it by odin.

best to find middle package (Richtchofen ones with his instructions, they quite plain and simple)

you could try put only pda part of the rom without repartition

if it will be stock room the same as you have now in your phone your warranty will be untouch
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ajjter:
If you were on froyo flash back stock rom (2.1) but first flash 512 pit file with pit, then the phone is,only startable in download mode, then flash stock rom with repartion and,everything ticked..
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sidh10:
btw i had oclf by ryan installed...

what should i do?

i do not wanna brick my phone

i downloaded samsung's latest froyo firmware to install?

should i refrain from installing that?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ajjter:
just wipe cache and memory then flash to stock rom not froyo it will not help so go eclair then froyo
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sidh10:
i tried flashing froyo....it didnt work...just as you said it wouldnt...it starts up and vibrates randomly.......will try eclair now...hope it works....finally... :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sidh10:
there wont be any problems flashing now will there?

:(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sidh10:
i tried eclair...

it has three files....

i am stuck on partition since 15 mins...what to do?please please help.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ajjter:
No make sure you flash the stock fw and use the 512 pit and have all options,ticked :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomeks:
Just find and read instruction how to proper repartition phone and flash it in Richtrofen posts (short and simple) which include links to roms.

do as it said and your phone will be working fine. mine was exactly on the same state few times and repartition with stock rom always helped
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sidh10:
it finally worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!yes yes yes!

thank you thank you! though i did have to start with chinese....and i took a long time to boot... :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ajjter:
Hehe dont use oclf use voodoo lag fix on 2.2 instead mate:)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nguyendqh:
Is there a way to copy all my phone contacts to my SIMcard?

Under settings all I see is import and export, no copy all contacts to SIM.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sk337sk337:
Not a way to do that but you do have SD card and gmail.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CBConsultation:
You can't do it in bulk but you can save individual contact numbers to your SIM.

Open the contact you want to save, hit the menu>more>save to SIM.

Please double check your facts before posting inaccurate information/advice.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nguyendqh:
One at a time eh? Wow that's going to be a b iatch!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CBConsultation:
Yeah, unfortunately that's the way it is for now. One at a time.

FYI though; if you setup all your contacts in Gmail you will never lose them and all you have to do is sync with that account and your contacts are there.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tw39515:
also you can sync them to tmobile.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sk337sk337:
Like I replied not a way to "copy all" to sin
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sk337sk337:
Sim*
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slackerx10:
Hey how do you save to your gmail account? It was very simple on my vibrant but I don't see how to do it at all on this new glacier. Can some one help me?

Sent from my HTC Glacier
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nguyendqh:
I could be wrong but I think you'd go settings>accounts & sync>google>sync contacts.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slackerx10:
Yeah that was it. That's a bit different from my last phone... I'm still getting used to this phone lol

Sent from my HTC Glacier
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apn3a:
well, does this really work? i was trying to sync my phone contacts with my gmail account; doesn't seem to work. The phone syncs google contacts with the phone fine, but this does not work vice versa. I linked phone contacts with google contacts; still, when i login to my gmail from my computer, my gmail contacts have not been synced to include phone numbers as well.

any solutions?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nguyendqh:
See if this works.

Contacts>settings>import/export>export to SD card>choice of SIM, phone or tmo

After that hook the phone up to your computer via USB and select disk drive

Gmail>contacts>more actions>import>select CSV file off phone.

I haven't done this myself because I don't want to sync my contacts with Gmail.

But let me know if it works.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LuvThyMetal:
Would my phone unroot if I accept the system update on my phone? I think its the build number update. It says system update 3.29.651.5
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magicriggs:
Yes it will unroot.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LuvThyMetal:
Hmm I see well is there any way I can update without unrooting my phone or is it not necessary?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] afazel:
Download a rooted ROM based on the new update

Sent from my phone with the geebees
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sk63:
You can probably find a rooted stock rom somewhere in the development section. Hopefully there's one that's been updated to the latest release.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LuvThyMetal:
Yep hopefully there is. It took me for ever to finally root my phone I'm not that great with rooting phones since I'm new to this stuff. Should be somewhat easier to root again.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hellcatrydr:
No 4G??? Why all the fanfare? Aren't 3G devices pretty much headed for obsolete street already?

Seriously, what am I missing? Why would a major manufacturer introduce it's new "flagship high end" phone with this speed handicap??? Will the video calling even work on 3G?

Any why all the interest here? Isn't basically it just a Vibrant with no sd card and 2.3?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
7.2MB/s down and ~5MB/s up...is plenty fast even for video calling :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcsinny99:
I agree, this thing is way out of control on name (nexus) alone. But I will say what is 4G? According to standards agreed upon by a standards conference this is what that means:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

Every carrier, starting with sprint is lying about 4g. There is a HUGE discrepancy from what the standard was set as and what they deliver.

To me the idea that a phone branded nexus does not have an sd slot and a 16g internal is crazy. Add that to t-mobile 3g? Where is the iphone giant killer? We all know what it should be, they know what it is too. To me, while nexus s may be a great addition to the galaxy line, it seems like phone manufacturers just laugh and take our money.

Why should we have to decide memory over front facing camera? Processor over screen type?

I would argue that google may have forgotten what the point was in the first place.

EVERYTHING, THE BEST, AND YOU GET TO SHAPE IT!

Mediocre cams and weak memory, good lord, next thing you know we got google nexus junior with pre paid minutes.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DKYang:
So, are you complaining about no "4G" or are you complaining about people being all "Hell no, where's the 4G? I'm gonna kill someone tonight." Just wandering. Got confused when I read the title and the post.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heygrl:
Because 3G at 7.2 Megabits (not MB/sec) is more than adequate. Average speed for the HSPA+ network ranges from 2-5Mbps (not official) with peaks of 10-12Mbps. Those peaks are a rarity on a site with almost no traffic. You'll need a strong & good signal to boot.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ma2k5:
I hate this "adequate" argument.

There was a time when 512kb broadband was fine. There was a time people thought you don't need more than 256kb of RAM on a PC.

Fact is, if you don't put the new technology out there, we won't find uses for it. Nexus S hasn't brought anything new of SIGNIFICANCE - is my problem. Being evolutionary to a Nexus One, which is coming to a year old, isn't acceptable, especially when you use tech which has been around for time, but more importantly, miss tech which has been used for months.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diversificationied:
Yup, that's correct.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
It's more than that. It's a pure Google phone. Pure open. It will be the focus of Android. And that's what it is out for. The Nexus One is collecting dust. This is a hefty enough upgrade. The Tegra 2 itself barely outperforms the hummingbird anyway, and this Dual Core Snapdragon crap is all rumors but possible, but probably won't be out for another 6~ months. Of course, wait another 6 months, then the dual core epic nexus will come out (and people will complain because it isn't quad core) ;)

It's a great, gorgeous, and powerful phone. It's everything I wanted out of my Vibrant originally. I'm getting it, and it's awesome, and I'm 99% sure I'm gonna love it with no complaints and never look back.

As for HSPA+, very few places actually get advantages from this. T-Mobile's 3g is already faster than LTE or Wimax will be for another year. The only way you'd benefit from HSPA+ is if you are peaking at 7.2mbps already and want to go past that, which I have. I've gotten 10mbps on a G2. 7.2 on Vibrant. But really, they average 4-8, both of them.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hellcatrydr:
Thanks for the responses. 1 more question... So, this S phone has software supported by Google, not Samsung? And if so, how would software updates be expected to differ from Samsung software updates? (which are slow coming if they come at all.)

For N1 owners how does it work? OTA updates pushed by Google?

I'm not a sophisticated user... I have a rooted Vibrant never flashed. It is, to me, a phenomenal device. I'd like to learn more about flashing roms and get some experience but I cannot risk my phone.... yet.

I'm thinking about getting the S and then I can feel better about using & tweaking the Vibrant as a learning tool.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ma2k5:
Tegra 2 is old news, Orion is what we are looking forward to.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Supermighty:
hellcatrydr the Nexus One and Nexus S will have OTA software updates pushed directly from Google. The Nexus One had Froyo before anyone else. I expect the same to be true of the Nexus S.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gogol:
Not all mobile operator has HSPA+ :)

I can live with 3G, it is fast enough (1.5 Mbps average).

Also, I cannot wait any longer to have a Google phone!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morfy50:
And that's the real selling factor!

Both manufacturer and carrier have a horrible track record when it comes to software updates. No one wants to use the previous software version when a newer one exists.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hamsteriel:
Orion is old news. Aquila is what we are looking forward to.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
All current HSPA devices will gain profit though "so called 4G" upgrade.

Now I get much lower latency (40-130ms) with MyTouch 4 over 3.75G.

Except you have to run 5 or more computers on the network or run 1080p youtube (3-4Mbps), current HSPA network is more than enough, GUARANTEED!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
I don't think we'll see the Aquila in phones... There will probably be a new quad core for that. And it'll probably be late 2013 the soonest before we can even expect quad cores to be planned for production for phones.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hayesms2:
I have a brand new Captivate that I got for free as the touchscreen doesn't work.

It is literally brand new out of the box, with no damage whatsoever.

On the very first boot it loaded up fine and everything looks great. But there is absolutely no response from the touchscreen. So I can't swipe to unlock and the phone is pretty much useless.

I was wondering if there is any chance it is a software issue, or is it definitely a defective touchscreen/digitizer?

I can replace the screen/digitizer for about $160 CAD, which I might do as the phone was free. But I'd like to be 100% sure that there is no other solution before I spend the money.

I did flash it with an AT&T rom using ODIN, but the exact same thing happened.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hayesms2:
Sorry for the shameless bump, but I have to make the decision whether to pay the $160CAD or not very soon.

So any advice at all would be greatly appreciated.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yuna:
You had 2 different cappy and both of em have no response from touchscreen?

Maybe you should take the gloves? or at least try using your NOSE as finger :D

cappy screen rects not to pressure, so no stylus
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smokestack76:
Its not software. So get a screen and go for it.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hayesms2:
Really appreciate the help.

I figured it was hardware, but it's always nice to get a second opinion.

Cheers
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] adambennett:
any suggestions which win mo rom to use for android?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] loyalamin:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=774417
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deadmansink:
check my signature; I've started a thread for VBN Rom, as it's down, look for deamansink...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
Most winmo roms will work fine. Getting a light winmo rom doesn't make any difference ... if you're still gonna use winmo, you might as well get a full rom. Only difference that winmo roms may make with android is based on the base used in the winmo rom, not the size or what's included in the rom.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Macelangelo77:
I don't completely agree with you. When I switched to vbn at first and later to Ozdroid, I noticed that there is a difference in startup time. Lighter WM Roms are booting quicker IMHO, which is an advantage if you want to start booting Android as quick as you can...

Sincerely,

Mac
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jose makalolot:
And that''s it, right? Used to have oz and vbn. Now, I am using Dutty's com3 v10. Same booting time with oz and vbn and I also get 4-6mA on standby.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] orangekid:
I've used VBN, my own cooked, NRG, and every ROM you can imagine.

Honestly, the best for battery life, speed, and working everything seems to be Energy with a 2.15.50 radio.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malicenfz:
What keyboard do you guys use? I personally use SwiftKey.

Sent from my Axura 2.1 phone with Gingerbread keyboard.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] koreancanuck:
I use swype/smart keyboard pro/droid x multitouch keyboard. Love all of them :)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadowscreation:
I use samsung and gingerbread keyboard there all fun
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] curti.nogg:
I use Swype and switch to the Android Keyboard when a friend is going to use the phone.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spradling:
SwiftKey

I also use SwiftKey :D
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Enhanced:
My vote goes to Smart Keyboard. Best customization out of all of them and provides pretty much everything you want in a tap keyboard.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dungeon47:
Custom Swype.

Sent from my Android using the power of my dreams.