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[Fascinate Android Development] jdkzombie:
ok..

so uh....i figured im done flashing totally random ass **** to my phone. Im really getting tired of flashing stock tar files to my phone then re rooting and reinstalling.....everything. I did manage to get by my mishap yesterday without reflashing to stock. I factory data reset the phone, wiped cache, mounted usb via recovery, deleted that ginger folder, then disabled voodoo, deleted its folder, the reinstalled voodoo, and super dark, then shazaam.....victory!! Of course i still had to reinstall all my apps n stuff, but its better than adb and re rooting and that whole process. Luckily i got some of the guys at IRC to lend me hand and that always helps. Besides, how can i learn what to do if i dont fail and have to get back on track again? lol
[Droid X General] mikejaret:
I installed the new market app (which I love btw). But after I installed it my camera doesn't work. When I open it injustice get a black screen. I have updated to the new software and cleared the camera data and nothing. Any advice. Anyone else having this issue.

Thanks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
This is it guys...i have vibrant and brand new iphone4....help me choose one...

i love vibrant....and i like iphone....uhhhhh...to hard to decide...help me decide
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZachLL88:
Your choice
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firefly6240:
you have them both?

why not just use them both :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iynfynity:
if you can have both that's better. I haven't really used an iphone 4 to test it out but all i know is that it has more and better applications than the vibrant.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
I wish I could...man..I wish its gonna be hard to change micro sim...coz iphone got some tiny ****
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mauiblue:
I'd get whatever makes you happy;).
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian_v3ntura:
personally... i would keep the iPhone 4 and sell the Vibrant if you couldnt keep both. android phones tend to depreciate more in resale value compared to the iPhone line. plus iOS does have better games and more higher quality apps. Micro-sim is not a real problem since the original tmobile sim can be cut down to size, or go to the tmobile store and ask to change to a micro-sim. they do have a limited stock of micro-sims.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heygrl:
The Vibrant does most of what the iPhone does and better in most cases. Excellent Samsung Music player/Samsung DAC, excellent Samsung SAMOLED display panel, 3G connectivity, etc. it only makes more sense to keep the Vibrant. I had an iPhone before getting my Vibrant and I don't miss it. The main reason why I hated Android was because of the horrible sound quality and god awful "music player".. Samsung solved that and gave us some other extras to boot with the TouchWiz interface.

It's backing is not glass either, which was just a stupid move on Apple's part.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epakrat75:
If you need iTunes, miss iOS only apps not yet ported to Android and / or find Android's user interface too complicated then stick with the iOS of the iPhone 4.

If you can do without iTunes (DoubleTwist with optional AirSync is a good replacement), like having the ability to design every home screen to very specific liking with more than mere icons, the freedom to move files on / off the device without syncing, the removable battery and expandable storage then stick with the Vibrant.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
I hate I tunes and apple lines of stuffs...I like their hardwares..iphone4 is a true beauty...and I do realize not be able to drag and drop files will be pain in ass. Plus I don't want another music software on my computer.

I'll be on att network from tomorrow and soon will get vibrant unlock code. I also wanna see how 3g works on that.. if I like...android will be my choice. ...but still so hard to decide. ;)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jrharvey:
I say neither. Get the Nexus S. Of course the vibrant may bust out with 2.3 before we know it but I doubt it will be as good as on the Nexus. The only downside I see to the Nexus S is the lack of expandable memory.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larryvand:
I had both as well. Sold my iPhone 4 and kept my Vibrant. No more dropped calls...ever again.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
No 3g on nexus s....with att network...I would say samsung already made outdated hardware. ;)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jibreil:
I've been using many phones and have spent my majority of time with an iPhone a.k.a iOS.

But I can surely tell you this - looking at the upcoming devices and growth of Android in comparison to Apps and 3D Games. 2011 is owned by Android and Windows Phone 7. So decide wisely where you want to put your money.

Save your money for Samsung Galaxy S 2 or LG Star.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Product F(RED):
Keep the Vibrant, sell the iPhone 4. Do you know how much an iPhone 4 is worth off contract? Anywhere from $600-$800.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timmay2t:
I just came from an iPhone 4 to a Vibrant. Difference for me was i'm on T-Mobile so i chose the Vibrant to get 3G speeds.

Although android is starting to grow on me, and i really like some of the features of the Vibrant, the iPhone 4 is just a flat out superior phone in terms of speed, quality, and apps. There's really no arguement about any of that.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jibreil:
I resent that statement :) Flash some of the custom ROMs with a good kernel and then I can assure that Vibrant is way faster than iPhone 4. Android comes with features which a daily cell users needs, i4 unless we jailbreak and again spend $$$ we have access to less than 50% of apps which are freely available on the Android Market.

Don't want to start a i4 vs Android debate here, but just my personal take on the two.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goob1284:
Vibrant. The galaxy s line is amazing. I own a captivate and im soooooo happy. I hate apple and everything it makes. It just sucks. Plus you cant oc or uv the iphone. Your choice but i would say vibrant
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
True not worth debating.. ;) I only posted this thread so I can pick one. Since I have both the phones on hand...man no doubt that apple makes good hardware. Android os a better software...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
Hey that's not a bad idea...I can make serious profit here...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shreddintyres:
Depends on what you want. Some of my friends prefer the closed system where you dont have to or he.ability to mess with anything. Personally i use the vibrant because i like the open ended appriach to the phone that android lends the user. If you want something that just works the way t does, keep the iphone, if you like to tinker i say sti k to the vibrant.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KnowledgeBroker:
I look at it this way, apple has had their phones on lockdown the whole time they are out, trying to recover your music if your computers library is corrupted is a huge pain, having no way to put files on the phone without syncing just plain sucks.. the biggest pain is that the phones are capable of SO much more if the operating system wasn't so locked up. 3g phones could do video, 3gs could do high def video, yet neither could do it without a jailbreak.

I see the android system as being the future, things that are open source and community driven are where it is going.. look at the things that are coming with gingerbread, even though carriers will try to block out the ability to use voip, you can root your phone and load it with a custom rom that won't reduce the functionality. Hell, even being able to tether your phone wirelessly without paying an extra 60 bucks a month by itself should be huge!

If you want a front facing camera, 30 bucks and just a little know-how and you got it. Software wise the vibrant is as customizable as it comes.. in ways that apple would never let you do(hense why they spend most updates just trying to block jailbreaking)

For me the switch was easy and obvious. I had the iphone and I jailbreak and unlock them for people all the time, but most of the owners envy the freedom they didn't know android gives you. I won't look back.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epakrat75:
I'd expect the iPhone to get Edge speeds on T-Mobile (due to network incompatibilities) while the Vibrant will be likely fastest on T-Mobile (I get 4-5 Mbps on average using 3G). If you can get 3G on AT&T using the Vibrant, it will likely only be in the 2-3 Mbps range. However, I'd be interested to know the result or be proved wrong.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Product F(RED):
The Vibrant actually does work on AT&T 3G strangely while the Captivate only works on AT&T's 3G. I'm telling you, buy the iPhone 4, sell it for at least $600, buy a Vibrant and you'll still have loads of cash left over.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intruda119:
Real men use vibrant
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iynfynity:
If you don't like stock phones then go to Vibrant if you don't want to mess eith your phone go with iphone. Me i don't really like flashing and stuffs but herr i am, addicted to flashing roms because if the vibrant.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
Hell ya...I'm gonna sell iphone and keep vibrant...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
Yup 3g works just fine for att..and its fast..I didn't do any speed test but it seems fine...let u know if I do speed test...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timmay2t:
The arguement of having to jailbreak an iPhone to get cool stuff should be null. Because in all honesty you need to root an Android phone to get decent battery life and speed on almost all devices.

I really like my Vibrant, i took that fat cash i got for my i4 and bought and iPad and now I have both and i'm glad i do.

But phone for phone, the i4 is just a superior piece of hardware, it really is.

I've had 4 roms on my Vibrant and none of them were close to the speed of the iPhone 4 though, so you might be mistaken there.

No debate here, i'm liking my Vibrant more and more every day. Just wanted to give the OP a perspective of somebody who just made the change.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnny13oi:
I would say that the main advantage of the iPhone here are the apps. Maybe the build quality of the iPhone 4 too. But the thing is, Android is growing at an enormous rate. I think they are equal to iPhone right now and will surpass them next year. 300000 devices a day I believe: http://androidspin.com/2010/12/09/android-300000-activations-a-day/

The reason why the iPhone had such high quality apps is because of the huge user base and money making potential. Imagine, would you market your game to 100 million people or 1 million people. But with Android growing at it's current rate, the tides will turn.

I came from an iPhone 3GS and love my Vibrant. Only downside I see is battery life. (which can be a huge downside) That super AMOLED kills battery life.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian_v3ntura:
yes i do know how much an off contract iPhone 4 is... like i said.. the value of android phones tend to depreciate MORE compared to iPhones. the current value of the iPhone 4 is not going to go down much anytime soon compared to the vibrant.

when i got my vibrant abt a month n a half ago, the value on ebay was around high 300-low 400.. but now,youd be lucky to even get 300 for the phone.

so IMO sell the vibrant now before the value goes down even more,keep the iPhone 4,then sell the iPhone 4 when the dual-core android phones come out...they should be out before the iPhone 5
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkknight49:
I would sell the iPhone simply because you'll probably get more money from it. I know some apple fanatics that pay more than retail for apple products because they believe they are so much better.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
Lol. What? Just stop.

@ OP. Keep the i4.

It's worth like 2x that of a Vibrant and chances are when you need to upgrade you can almost fund an off-contract phone by selling the i4. Android phone values drop like bricks unless they're dev phones, and they still don't compared to iPhone values.

Samsung's music/video player is not better than the iPhone stuff. Apps are better on iOS. The App Store is loads better, and has way more useful apps on it. There is iTunes for doing stuff from a computer. iOS Exchange support embarasses Android.

If you use your phone seriously, it makes absolutely no sense to ditch an i4 for a Vibrant.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
That's why he should sell the Vibrant now, while it's worth at least something.

In one year the iOS phone will drop in value maybe by $150-200. The Vibrant won't be worth anything.

He can sell the i4 and get a new phone almost outright.

Not to mention, as much as people love Android they simply need to own up to it and admit the OS simply doesn't work as well as iOS when it comes to doing things that matter.

But if you like ROM hopping and tweaking, of course you should keep the Vibrant.

Don't know why the OP made the thread in this sub-forum, TBH.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heygrl:
For someone that "ignored" me you certainly seem to be reading my posts a lot. Get a life already and stop starting **** you troll.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sane1:
Toss them both in the air at the same time. Whichever one doesn't shatter into a million pieces when they hit the ground is the keeper.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funeralthirst:
keep whichever works better on the network you are using. if you have tmob, keep the vibrant. if you have att, there's a way to use the 850 band on the vibrant so you can use both att 3g bands, do that and see which handles the network better.

but personally, i'd keep the vibrant.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paging Dr B:
I'm going to get flamed for saying this but iOS is way more polished that android in any state. I love android and am a huge cheerleader for the cause but an iphone4 is better than the vibrant. Plain and simple. The SAMOLED screen is awesome, but in overall functionality and day to day use, you'll find yourself being less frustrated with iOS than with Android. The vibrant is a great phone but the RFS format is terrible and causes a lot of useless lag that you don't see with other android phones from other manufacturers. I recently got an ipad and have been amazed at how well things perform day to day. Not to say that iOS is perfect, because it isn't. Things get finicky and you have to restart those devices too, just not nearly as often as any android phone that I've had (g1, droid, mytouch, droidx,vibrant, nexus S soon).

If you like customization, bleeding edge roms, and flash then go with android.

If you like stability, better apps (yeah I said it), and to fit in at starbucks, then go with the iphone. Oh, and if you also use itunes then it should be a no-brainer.

Both phones are great devices, but if you haven't already decided I would use one device exclusively for a few days and see how each behaves in day to day use. One last thing, please keep my flaming to a minimum. I love android but wish it were more stable.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heygrl:
RFS is not the reason for the lag with the Galaxy S. It was a poorly conjured up excuse because no one could truly figure out the problem. The Tab has no lag to speak of. Secondly if the OP has both, he should be able to make that decision on his own. The iOS is polished / sterile, is that news to anyone?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joe.kerwin:
Dude, I can see if you haven't made a purchase yet, but you have both at your fingertips and still think you need other people to decide for you? Use your mind, it shouldn't be hard to decide which you'd rather have, I assume YOU would know of all people. With that said, i'll buy either one from you if you're interested PM me your price and ill get back to you.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
Thanks guys for all these great comments.. I've used iphone its smooth and polished...I like my vibrant but some time it gets into my nerve.. I shouldn't have got iphone the first place...now I have to make stupid decision...I guess I'll keep both for right now..use and compare and see which stands out...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
If you're on AT&T why not just get a Captivate. They're basically the same phones and the captivate's build quality is miles ahead of the Vibrant...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Product F(RED):
But the Vibrant works both on AT&T's 3G and T-Mobile's 3G which is rare to find in a phone. Plus it can sideload apps straight out of the box.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PaiPiePia:
I would recommend staying with the iPhone 4, it is a solid phone. Since most developers supports iOS better at this point, iPhone 4 is your best bet. Android has grown fast this last year, but it is still behind in the market development. The only thing that can't be replaced by iOS is the notification system.

Vibrant only work with one band of AT&T, so it is really a hit or miss thing, I hate to be stuck with a phone that half works. I think it's 850 mhz band? Some one correct me if I am wrong.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian_v3ntura:
its the 1900mhz that works with the vibrant on AT&T 3g. its alert been debunked that the vibrant does not have the hardware support for 850mhz even tho software wise,its "using " it. its all abt reading the logcats
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
Person above is right. Only ine band so your 3g coverage will be quite choppy. Using a Vibrant in AT&T is a waste if you could have gotten a captivate.

And I'd keep the i4. Captivates are like 50 with a contract on AT&T now. android phones do not hold value well. HD2s are worth more than Galaxy S now.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PaiPiePia:
Ahh, thanks!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbm21:
i like having a phone that i can make calls on so i have a vibrant and i can hold it however i want
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ms_Vibrant:
oh this is easy! keep the vibrant , sell the iphone, then buy a galaxy tab or ipad... LOL

i know that's what i'd do... the screen is too small on iphone.. and what can you do with it besides jailbreaking? your choice..
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bosslabs:
After using the vibrant for about 5 months now..I feel the iphone 4 would be a better choice. The retina display is not too bad..and nothing beats the app store apps. I wonder if android market will ever catch up..really doubtful.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MacGuy2006:
Hm, if you can live with the smaller screen, the iPhone 4 is a better choice, IMO.

The iPhone:

-- takes much better photos and video (transfer it and look at it on a big screen, you'll see what I mean).

-- has better apps, although things are getting closer.

-- will get updated to the newest OS version for the foreseeable future (or until the hardware supports such upgrades).

-- has more polished UI and smoother feel.

The Vibrant:

-- has a larger screen, although not as color accurate as the screen of the iPhone.

The Vibrant may/likely never be upgraded to 2.3.

Both phones are effectively locked -- Samsung controls the drivers, so the fact that Android is an open platform is irrelevant to the Vibrant. Any Vibrant 2.3 ports without updated drivers for GPS, etc., will always have shortcomings compared to the real thing.

If you really need to customize your iPhone, jailbreak it and look around for some of the countless themes floating around.

Just my honest 2 cents.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alex530:
Ok this is how I exlplained it to my sister. She was debating on the same thing. I said: Wht do you prefer apps or choices? Then I broke it down.

iOS is just a lockdowned phone with apps. That's it nothing more to it.

Android: Customizable. Meaning you can make it look however you want. She said what if I want zebras i said the only zebra your gonna see on the iphone is the one on google images.

She choose android.

Sent from the Bermuda Triangle.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonie972:
that's not true, you can have zebra as a background. I don't see why people keep saying ios is lock down when it is not.

The only advantages I see android has over iso:

1. Widgets

2. google sync

hmm... I think that's pretty much it.

I have the vibrant and I think I have spent too much time on flashing different roms to get the best performance. I'm thinking about going to BB or iphone so I can spend my leisure time else where.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
iPhone can Sync Google stuff via ActiveSync (Google Sync), and iOS supports HTML Email from GMail/Hotmail and multiple ActiveSync accounts, the same way WP7 can.

Simply put, Android only wins if you're a tech junkie that likes modifying your devices. For core user experience, it's behind every major smartphone platform except maybe Symbian (and only if you don't have SPB Mobile Shell installed) and Blackberries.

As a business device Android is probably behind everything else including Windows Mobile 6.5. Notably worse than an iPhone.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
That's so true...we've spent so much time fixing this vibrant...which should have been fixed by the manufacturer.....I don't wanna spend anytime fixing phones...I wanna get some life too...I love android...but this vibrant is not doing any good to android....
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tribalb:
too much of a biased topic. serious what it comes down to is what you plan to do with the phone. both are great phones. each with advantages and disadvantages. ive had both. and android came on top for me. really you just got to use both and get a feel what you want. remember..."what you want" and not what others point out to you.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
I bought this vibrant thinking gps would be fixed and upgraded to froyo....gps never fixed...froyo melted and yet no sign of fix...and here I am trying to fix this damn phone with different roms every night...hoping some miracle will happen....stupid me.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ULiAsuj10:
Like I said thank you guys for suggestions. i guess its all upto me which one I should keep...I will wait couple of months to see if anything good happens...if not iphone would be my choice...I'm also looking for an option to get a micro sim adapter...may be I could use both...;)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ms_Vibrant:
hmm if you want a boring homescreen with a grid of icons, then go for the iphone..

even if you theme it , it still just scattered icons.. LOL

not only you can do so much with the vibrant , it's also just nicer to look at with the widgets and the many things you can do with it..

and the whole 'this vibrant phone is broken , gps is not working' has been blown out of proportion.. the only flaw that i can see on this phone that i dont like is the little lags.. and it's not sooo bad anyway.. you want a working gps? then odin to jfd , then update through mini kies , the official upgrade that should give you a working gps.. and i honestly dont think that people here flash roms to fix anything , but it has simply become an addiction for them.. flashing sometimes is the cause of the problems.. (no pun)

and sure the iOS will get the updates, but what 'new' features will it have that the vibrant does not have yet on 2.1? will it have flash? default tethering feature?

ive flashed some custom roms, flashed froyo , but i always go back to stock j16 (via mini kies).. and they are great roms , but im fine with j16..