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[Epic 4G Android Development] vampyrex13:
I wanted to see the speed differences with the new EB13 update running the OC 1.2Ghz kernel and then compare it to Bonsai running the same kernel. Then I wanted to see if there's much difference after odexing my Bonsai ROM. Here's my data from that. You can clearly see that Bonsai running the OC kernal with journaling off and odexed is the fastest.

01. Stock EB13 with EB13 OC kernel RFS deodexed

02. Bonsai DK28 with EB13 OC kernel EXT4 journaled and deodexed

03. Bonsai DK28 with EB13 OC kernel EXT4 journaled and odexed

04. Bonsai DK28 with EB13 OC kernel EXT4 no journaling and deodexed

05. Bonsai DK28 with EB13 OC kernel EXT4 no journaling and odexed
[Epic 4G Android Development] nikeairj:
Hey guys, I'd really like to know about the camera "lag" issue I'm having. It's slower in lower light condition, pretty much the exactly same issue with the camera lag issue in the newest EB13 system. I'm wondering if you guys are having the same issue with the current Bonsai 2.0.1 ROM in the DK28 system. If no one else has this issue, then I guess I'll just wipe and do a clean re-flash.

Other than that, the ROM is superb. Thanks in advance, guys.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
On the Wiki I have the bonsai 2.0.1 benchmarks up. Can someone run a comparision of the OC Kernal, and then the OC with Bonsai 2.0.1? Just a single run of tests should suffice.

I ask because if you flash a new kernal on top of Bonsai you should be losing the tuning Bonsai offers. 2.0.1 is specific to Dk28 and the kernal is baked into the install. We are working on getting bonsi to mesh with EB13 and its not there yet (yes we have some peeps doing some betas). I really doubt your getting any benifit from 2.0.1 if your on the OC kernal. Again if someone could bench it with something more than just smartbench i would appreciate it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
The only thing I see slowing down eb13 Is not having journaling disabled. My quadrant is lower on eb13 with the oc kernel than it is on dk28 with bonsai.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] vampyrex13:
What other benchmark tool would you prefer?

Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
Im at work and csnt do a bunch of testing. But I can say that with bonsai 2.01 (dk28 NOT eb13} with the Genicide kernel flashed on top I am getting quadrant score 2430. And so far my day at work battery life for me is the same or slightly better.

Thats my experience so fay anyhow after adding the oc kernel last night.

And it does feel a bit snappier.

Running setcpu at 200-1200
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
Thats kinda what I expected. OC kernal doesnt use swap,no journaling and throttling plus the miriad of other tweaks Mammon and Randy threw in. Bonsai does not use overclocking yet.

When we combine the two......comense drooling!
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
2.0.1 should result in a quadrant score of 2028 avg.
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
Without oc kernel bonsai ussualy gives me close to 2100.

With oc kernel getting 2400

(typo before, sorry)
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
I'm inputting the smartbench scores now for EB13 into the wiki. Seriously folks before you go posting WOW my blah blah blah does so much better please test it and compare it to the Bonsai Wiki. I run 50+ tests on every build I get my hands on so we can track whats better and whats not.

Bonsai Team is commited to making the phone better and we have the #'s to prove it :D .

Now can we have the thread back? :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
Sorry. You were asking for info, so I gave you what I could while at work. I was not trying to say WOW look at what my phone can do without proof. Just trying help.

But I have been testing my phone long enough to no wether I see/feel a difference or not and my score is not lying.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
Pjjohn73...I'm sorry that statement wasnt directed at you at all or anyone in particular. I appeciate the feedback. it was a general statement cause it looks like the thread was starting to derail. I just felt a nudge to get back on track was in order.

On a side note. Randy IS working to see if he can get bonsai to work on the OC Kernal. Hes doing some odex/deodex magic on it atm.
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
No problem. Was not sure if it was directed at me or not, just thought it might be as my post was above yours. Sorry.

I would not have mentioned the oc kernel on this site at all if u did not ask for info, as I don't want to derail the thread.

Hopefully all is going well with the ROM update. Including the oc kernel might be neat if its stable and keeps battery life doable. But Bonsai is good without overclocking. But it is kind of fun to at least play with for a few days and so far my phone is stable.

PS: The 1400 I mentioned above was a typo. I meant 2400 :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] skandranon314:
Seeing as this thread is over 4500 post long, I thought it would be a good idea for the new version of bonsai start with a brand new thread.

My $.02 :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
I was thinking that too, but then I thought of how many people have alerts setup on this one and I don't know if thats such a good idea. I agree though this is one is definatly one of the most active on the forums.

Maybe we should reference what page to start on for the new release lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
I think it would be a good idea.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Maybe if we do that people would actually read before asking repeated questions. Lol....well maybe not

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[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
what would be awesome is a problems thread and an "how do i flash this thing thread" half the time i have to post twice if i have a problem because as soon as i post, the thread gets overrun with people asking questions about how to flash the thing.
[Epic 4G Android Development] skandranon314:
Easily fixed by posting a link to the new version thread in this thread and in the OP.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Yes you are def. Correct. If someone has a problem it sometimes doesn't get answered cause people can't figure out simple installation instructions.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
We have that its caled the bonsai wiki

Sent from my Beastly Emotionless Bonsai while in the deepest reaches of the pit.
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
yea, but apparently no one uses it as probably 300+ pages of this thread are installation issues.
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
Not gonna happen...lol

correct...no one reads anymore...:(
[Epic 4G Android Development] mroien:
Help did I mess up my SD card???

I was running a few ROMs just fine with around 176MB free internal and 3.5GB free on my SD card and now I flashed a new ROM and my internal memory went to 50MB free and my SD card only has 650MB free. What happened to my card? I formatted the card and reinstalled everything and still messed up. I can't make a LauncherPro backup of my home screens either because it says there is an error and to make sure my SD card is available. What can I do??

Thanks
[Epic 4G Android Development] leatherneck6017:
Is this ROM dead? Haven't heard a peep out of Mammon or Randy_T. I've been holding off on going to EB13 until Bonsai was updated. I can't imagine running my Epic on any other ROM. I've tried them all and I'm Bonsai for life.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Comando156:
Dude the eb13 has only been out for what... 2 to 6 days depending on if you consider source or OTA the for build they are using? Slow down, take a breath, and read a few posts. MasterQu already stated that they are still in the process of tweeking there changes to go along with eb13 smoothly. Do you want a fast but ****ty build? Mammon an RandyT know what they are doing, just sit back and wait. If its a month later, and no update, then call it dead but 2 days... come on.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
Whoa, the pressure is on!

We're not dead... but I do have a few soft spots on my head...

Samsung dropped a real load of crap on us and we have just been trying to sort out a running system. We have a few folks doing some testing now, but we still have a bit of work to do before anyone would want to run this as daily driver. Given that Samsung is now pulling EB13, not sure where we will head with this. I recommend continuing to enjoy v2.0.1.

Patiences is a virtue.
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
Lolz
[Epic 4G Android Development] leatherneck6017:
In which part of my simple post did I sound demanding or rushed? It sounds like you're the one that needs to "slow down". Troll somewhere else to get your jollies.

Thanks for the update, I guess I just found it odd that neither of you had even said "Hey guys, we're working on it".
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
Source?

Thanks

EDIT: Found the link from Sprint's forum stating that Sprint was stopping OTA rollout. Update is still available on Samsung's website. Couldn't find any official word from Samsung. Looks to me like Sprint is simply watching their backs trying to avoid a fiasco.
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/263401#263401
[Epic 4G Android Development] leatherneck6017:
I'll bet you've been trolling all day looking for somewhere to post that picture.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
Has been more of a bandwidth issue. Was up until 3:00am last night trying to move this ball forward...
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
What am I chopped liver? Just because I...<insert rant here>
[Epic 4G Android Development] a2tz:
Well randy/mammon and MasterQu I do appreciate the update also. I'm very happy on Bonsai 2.0 and really thought of jumping to something "new" but I honestly just don't have any problems so I like staying with what works. I know you guys will do something awesome and progressive and I'll be waiting till it's ready. Thanks again.
[Epic 4G Android Development] leatherneck6017:
Why does it seem like everyone in the Epic forums gets their panties in a twist so easily? Are you one of the developers? Seriously guys, give it a rest already. I'm not going to clutter this post with anymore useless comments. My question was answered and I'm happy with that. If you guys want to flame, etc, that's your problem.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Yes guys Mammon and Randy are working very hard to bring a nice stable yet fast build. Its not ready for primetime yet due to some issues. I can tell you this though that it is def very fast. Also who knows how much development is even going to be done on eb13 considering there will.be a new build out.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
Im pretty sure he was joking. At least thats how I took it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
Yeah that was a joke.

But seriously everyone who reads text always thinks that the guy...<insert new rant here> ;)

does a smiley help..roflmao
[Epic 4G Android Development] Top Nurse:
They are working very diligently on an update. Randy has been keeping odd enough hours that I'm sure his spouse is already complaining.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Lol I'm sure.... he's been staying up late enough

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[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
Im anxious for the new bonsai rom, hopefully it will be easy to flash over the 2.0.1 version if you have the modem.

My set up:

1. Bonsai 2.0.1

2.Genocide Kernal

3.EB13 Modem

4. Emotionless beast theme.

5. Spot for new EB13 Bonsai :D

6. Spot For EB13 Emotionless beast. :D

@Randy/Mammon/MasterQu will this be easy to flash over the current bonsai as long as we have the new modem?

Also any new on when we might see EB17? Anyone?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JPhantom95:
I've always thought the Emotionless Beast theme looked immensely ugly.
[Epic 4G Android Development] huytrang90:
Not sure if anyone saw samsung pull the eb13 update.

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/androidcentral/~3/NJZGr_3VrYE/sprint-halts-epic-4gs-froyo-update-due-data-sd-card-issues
[Epic 4G Android Development] nubecoder:
IDK where this is coming from (maybe I missed the news)...

Epic4G_FroyoUpgrade_EB13_Tool.exe still available as I see it.

=]
[Epic 4G Android Development] huytrang90:
Just read the news, I have not gone to samsung site yet..on phone..
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
@leatherneck6017

Nope, google images...
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
Was in the news. I believe Engadget reported it. And I think Android Central also. Data connection and reading memory card issues for some people.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dnathan13:
EB13 is back up, they got a fix already.
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Correct me if I'm.wrong.... it wasn't a problem with eb13 itself, it was the updating on ota. Its hard yo update an operating system without wipes. The normal person who takes the ota doesn't want go wipe. Anyone know what the fix was? Did they change the update scripts or something?

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[Epic 4G Android Development] galaxyd700:
[sprint] this is sprints website!

for anyone that wants to see if sprint pulled the eb13 froyo( they did) then you can goto directly to there web site.....just copy and paste in the address bar and you will see that they did infact pull the eb13 froyo !!!

http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100823-181934?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA
[Epic 4G Android Development] iSaint:
they rushed it to get us off their ass but wtf is wrong with them....six months and they can't come up with a good update.

at-least we have source.
[Epic 4G Android Development] huytrang90:
Simple reset would fix it . With odin, I think you will be ok. I'm not sure about the issue with dat's though.

This is from what I read.
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
Downloaded again and the checksums are the same file was never changed.
[Epic 4G Android Development] codest3r:
Yeah, that was way to fast for anything to have changed! We all wish they were that quick with fixes! :o

According to what I saw:

That said, the following updated post has the following recommendations now:

UPDATE 1: SD Card Index

If you are experiencing issues with the Camera, Media Player, Gallery, or SD card, refresh your SD Card Index following the steps below and power cycle your device to ensure the refresh takes effect:

Menu->Settings->Applications->Manage Applications->Select All->Scroll down to Media Storage->Select Clear Data.

Update 2: Calendar sync

(solution from Dennis Staub...thanks!)

MENU>SETTINGS>APPLICATIONS>MANAGE APPLICATIONS

Select "All" in the grouping at the top and then select "Calendar" then under "Storage" select "Clear data".

Then go back to the App list and select "Calendar Storage" and do the same. Then open your Calendar then

MENU>SETTINGS>CALENDAR SYNC>Manage Accounts(Select your account) then un-check it, then re-check it then go back to the calendar and check to see if the appointments have sync'd for you.

I'll stop hijacking the thread now. :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
No codest3r that's cool man. Thanks to all those that posted. That's pretty bad they pulled it for just a little while and then put it right back acting like they fixed it. So I assume they will finish the ota today?

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[Epic 4G Android Development] codest3r:
Not sure myself. From what I've seen here, BAW, and twitter -- just mixed signals. I haven't seen anything that says one way or the other about when they plan to complete the OTA process.

So from what I can tell EB13 is here to stay, and if you have the problems described in the earlier post use the workarounds they've put forward.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dwallersv:
The best solution is to create a 'releases forum' for popular roms, with sub forums created for particular releases that meet some criteria of popularity/activity. That way there could be more narrowly targeted threads for different issues related to the subject rom.

Bonsai is an excellent example of precisely the sort of release that qualifies, and indeed makes the case for better organizing the discussion.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
I was wondering if u guys have an update for the new eb13 call log? No rush but I hate that the still have ur text in the call log. Thanks guys and I can't wait till u guys get this rom up and runnig u guys rock
[Epic 4G Android Development] zetterwing:
If you're interested in a workaround I noticed that the Logs button is plural...as in if you pull up the logs you can hit the menu button to change how you view them. It will only allow you to select one or all...instead of all calls or all mssgs etc but that way you can see just calls. Sort of a manual pain but it works.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Top Nurse:
The beta testing is still going on. EB13 fixed a lot of glitches, but introduced more that weren't there before. This is a major version update and is just going to take some time.

Sent from Bonsai v 5.0.3
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
Definitely. It is taking some more time and new problems arise. Trust us Randy and Mammon have been working very hard on getting.this release out. They were up till 5 am the.other morning finishing up a beta version. It will be.out soon just play around with 2.0.1 for now.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] MeOverTrance:
For some reason my phone refuses to work with my laptop. I downloaded the driver and the second I connected my phone it would say USB drive not recognized. I uninstalled the driver and installed it again to no avail. I went from VIPERrom to Bonsai but the problem is still there. I tried many times, sometimes it would give the message above and sometimes it would say Driver Installation failed. This prevents me from going to EB13 or moving files convieniently for that matter to my phone. Odin also doesn't detect anything. Any help ?
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
sometimes when my laptop gives me troubloe i restart my laptop and it fixes it. if thaat doesnt work try another usb chord and usb port.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
Yep thats what i do and it always fixes it.. or sometimes if im using a one click method and it wont work i reset my phone as well.

Ive never had a problem getting the phone to read with the drivers and odin is easy and always works.. i dont get people how they completely brick there phones, just follow the instructions.

Anyway, im getting more and more excited for this rom to come out..

I still havent got a straight answer on this:

Can i use the one click eb13 ext clockwork on top of the old dk28 ext clockwork?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Top Nurse:
Yes, done quite a few times lately.

Sent from Bonsai v 5.0.3
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
I figured, i just wanted to make sure...

So it will re ext my system? Without losing my current rom and what not. I assume it doesnt mess anything up.

It wont enable journaling will it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] yellowxboy:
Hey guys,

this question should be posted elsewhere but i figured since i am running 2.01 here, i might as well check to see if anybody else is having this issue:

i'm trying to pair up my bluetooth car kit with my epic4g, i've done it many times when i was running Nova's rom but i haven't done so with Bonsai. It should be the same basic procedure

turn on bluetooth on phone and car kit

enable pairing mode on car kit

select car kit bluetooth on the epic and bam, it should work

but my problem is that my Epic does not prompt me for a password/passkey so when it tries to connect, it says "wrong pin" or something like that. i tried going thru the phone applications looking to clear the bluetooth cache but could not find it anywhere.

any suggestions?
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
This is not a rom issue...it sounds like the drivers are not installed properly....extract the driver folder and then grab the shrewsbury folder and install that manually....also if you enable usb debugging you should be able to mount the sd card no matter what...
[Epic 4G Android Development] mattallica76:
Go to Settings/Applications/Manage applications/All, look for "OPP". Clear data.
[Epic 4G Android Development] yellowxboy:
yeah i did that and it still didnt prompt me for a pin or password :T i rebooted my phone and the bluetooth car kit and its the same result. poop

edit: i tried paring a bluetooth headset and it prompted me for the pin. its something wrong w/ my bluetooth car kit i guess.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Top Nurse:
I'm not sure, but if you already have ext4 it should not re-do it. If you already have a cwm 2.x.x system why do you want cwm 3?

Sent from Bonsai v 5.0.3
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
I already have the extra clockwork, I just need to upgrade it for eb13 stuff..

Sent from My Eb13 Modem, With old bonsai epic 4g.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Sean Hicks:
Ive had the same problem, but only when trying to interface with windows7. I have been able to access the sd files occasionally by selecting the drive, under administrator access in my computer, viewing properties, volumes, and selecting 'populate'. I have been able to get odin to see the device, by removing the sd card. I have suspicions that the computer sees the wrong partition of the sd card at times, and it has named my mass storage 'fat33' or somethingg.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Top Nurse:
Oh the edify thingy. In that case just go ahead and flash cwm 3. I have both a version 2 and 3 on my epic. You can access both. :D

Sent from Bonsai v 5.0.3
[Epic 4G Android Development] Top Nurse:
I *think* the older style version 2 was installed on the system partition and the newer versions install to the data partition. How do you rename a sd card? Everytime I try it tells me no way in W7.

Sent from Bonsai v 5.0.3
[Epic 4G Android Development] sheltem:
If you unpair the device (click and hold the device name) and select "Scan devices" after, it should delete the device in question. Rather unintuitive, but that's Android for you :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
I'm hoping for a weekend release, I can't wait, I'm getting anxious, got the new kerbal going to get the new clockwork and have the eb13 modem and even can have new emotionless beast just need new bonsai for completeness.

Take your time guys the longer it takes I'm site you won't have bugs or issues ;)

So excited!!

Sent from My Eb13 Modem, With old bonsai epic 4g.
[Epic 4G Android Development] yellowxboy:
sheltem,

i cannot unpair the device since it won't let me pair it, haha. I tried pairing the car kit with my brother's phone (random tmobile bluetooth enabled phone) and it connected fine after prompting for a pin, but for some reason on my epic4g, it doesn't ask for a pin and just tells me that the bluetooth device is rejecting the connection due to a wrong pin/password. i even tried flashing over to Nova's rom and still get the same thing.

blah, thanks for the suggestion though :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] MasterQu:
I cant resist....

Mammon and Randy are trying to give the testers a new beta tonight to try out, but alas family obligations are slowing things down. We look forward to having a new release to you all soon.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
Sweet!!! Any Teaser info? Like will it flash over the old dk28 one or will we have to flash the dk28 deodexed rom first? I have the eb13 modem, latest clockwork ext.

Just wondering if it will work over the old one as long as we have the new modem and clockwork?

Looking forward to it!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] pjjohn73:
Do u have a link to the eb13 modem? Should search, but at work. Thanks..

And I have only really seen the full roms
[Epic 4G Android Development] musclehead84:
I can't wait to test out this new Beta tonight. :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
You have to use odin to flash it and its in the development section..