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[Galaxy S I9000 General] cassiemarie:
I really should have looked into the cons of updating to Froyo before, well, updating to Froyo. I didn't even think about it potentially destroying my phone as it was released by the damn manufacturer.

Phone is still running so far, I've been running 2.2 (stock, always has been, never rooted etc.) for about a week. Not without problems however. Since upgrading my phone has had obscene lagging issues. Some of the links on my home screen disappear after a reboot, one does this every time. Oddest thing that has messed up which I haven't seen mentioned here yet is the Applications menu. I spent forever getting all my apps in an efficient order, and one time (after restarting the phone) everything was jumbled. Strangest part was, it looked like alphabetical order? But with one or two apps per page glaringly not in order?

I know that the crash is coming. If I try and touch anything whilst the "Scanning" of the SD card(s?) is running the phone will freeze with a black screen. Luckily, removing the battery and restarting has fixed this so far. My hopes aren't high that this will continue working.

After all the issues I've already had with comas due to wireless band switching (Bell admitted to no problem, and offered no solution), this is getting ridiculous. You think after all of the delaying Froyo they would have, you know, tested it?

Seriously Samsung? Boo. :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tilallr1:
I was wondering the same thing myself. My wife's phone had the same blue coating your talking about. Hers is still working with Froyo aok. It could be that the new fixed motherboard is this one. Anything with silver is the old one.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kewjoe:
Just got my phone back. They gave me a brand new one. Manufacture date of 12-10.

Hopefully this is a new revision that won't be impacted.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] frandromeda:
It's ALIIIIIIIIVE!!!!!

Actually, it's replaced with a new one. Phone went in on Nov 22, and today I got a call that my phone was back. Well turns out that they just replaced it. Could have done that in the first place...

Anyways, it came back with eclair. The build date behind the battery is 10.12 (I'm guessing this is the build date?)

Oh, and the blue sdcard and simcard slots? Stickers. Dust protectors. Someone at the factory just didn't peel 'em off. No magical hardware fix or anything. Same silver underneath.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaestroSeven:
I got mine back today and they gave me a new one. I can confirm that mine has the blue on the sd card as well.

Gps is spot on. Never had that before.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] evil-doer:
holy crap. so many people got their phones back this evening. i hope they call me tomorrow. it would be a festivus miracle
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tilallr1:
Well that was what I was a afraid of. The blue stuff is just stickers. Too bad really. I am curious if anyone with the blue stickers has experienced a boot up of death though. Anyone?

Anyway, the phone build date is the same, 10/12. We got the phone on the Dec-2. So it doesn't appear to be new hardware. Which should mean the phone may brick all the same with enough SD stress.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kevinhu.ca:
Signed, everyone please sign this petition...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jpaik:
Guys, All Things Mobile says another 2.2 update is being released tomorrow for the Galaxy S Vibrant. Also says Samsung/Bell replacing rather than repairing defective phones.

http://www.atmobile.ca/2010/12/bell...-android-2-2-update-and-new-warranty-process/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mactek:
I so hope so! Feel like a blind man walking through a mine field just waiting for my SGS to brick for the second time. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] arr0ww:
Just got mine back about an hour ago. i've been recording HD video since the start. I'm away from home for most of this weekend so i will stress the crap out it then report back on monday sometime.

Merry Christmas Guys!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] evil-doer:
wow, that does indeed sound like faulty hardware.

now i have no idea what i should do when i get the phone back from repair. will it be one of the fixed motherboards? if not do i need to wear the hell out of it until it breaks so i can get a new one? will bell even give me a new one since im not a bell customer? so many questions.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aaronxvx:
So where should we upgrade from tomorrow? Kies?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jpaik:
Yes...Kies.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] got_milk:
Interesting. I have the day off tomorrow (woo-hoo!) so I'll keep a close eye on Kies and snag it when it comes out.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Dark4eons:
Will it brick? I'm on my 2nd repair, first time was major work done on the phone (I'm guessing mobo was swapped out for a new one) and this time I received a new phone. The store clerk didn't even notice, had to tell them the original sticker they put on their brand new phones (the one with the amoled logo on) was on there, good thing I noticed since my imei changed. So if this update bricks the phone for a 3rd... Can't wait to get 2.2 on there :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] arr0ww:
Its out now, check Kies, JL2 is available. At least for me it is.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] contalyst:
Glad to hear you got it back!

How long was it gone for and what exactly did they do to it?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Spudsicles:
DAMN you... lucky guy. I took mine to Lougheed mall on Sunday, guess there's no chance I'm getting it back tomorrow.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aaronxvx:
umm update and report back :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] arr0ww:
updated to JL2!! 1/2 hr running...so far so good lol
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rombo121:
kies shows no update

i see no update...can you tell us the subversion you are running?

I call bull****

rombo
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aaronxvx:
mine says current version is jk4 and it can't be updated. i guess it's not available to everyone yet
[Galaxy S I9000 General] archangelz:
Not available for me either wth? I want to update this thing so bad... getting some minor FCs now and its making me nervous.

Good for samsung to offer brand new phones to people having problems
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Spudsicles:
Yeah but how long is it gonna take the Bell stores to issue these new phones, who knows if the stores even have them yet.

So Samsung is claiming it's a software problem that's frying the hardware?... confused.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] archangelz:
It's possible to fry hardware with bad software easily... for control systems for example if you set commands to a motor that is faster than the motor was designed to go, you wear it out and it'll die after awhile.

For this though, if you have some low level driver that writes out of bounds on an array or something, you can end up overwriting some critical software segment and corrupts data. Or it could be that RFS issue where its constantly writing to the SD card due to caching in 2.2. Flash has a finite number of writes before it dies and if the OS is always writing to the card hundreds of times per second, this could kill things rather quickly. So the theory goes.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TriC_101:
This is not the case with the i9000m... because there are different versions of the phone that have been running the same i9000 Roms with out issues like the Captivate and it has 16gb of internal space as well. . no issues.. it just seems that the i9000m has some bad components. also their are lots of i9000 with 8gb that have no issues is well... this issue was around way before JK4 with the i9000m
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Frostshock:
Got mine back today, replaced with a build date of 10.12 which I assume is October 12th. The PCB is blue as others have said. I took the blue stickers off and it's still blue so unless there are stickers on the mainboard itself...

I forgot how light it is and how bright the screen is. It's tempting to give it another shot but I'm also attached to the Desire Z I've been using.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] thequinox:
No update for me either. It's rather annoying that I have to clear my internal SD card every time I want kies to connect properly too. I wish they'd fix that...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kewjoe:
I think it means December 2010. My first one was 10.08. Which had to mean august.

Sent from my GT-I9000M
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kewjoe:
I too don't see the JL2 update on kies

Sent from my GT-I9000M
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nooganator:
Got mine back yesterday, I know they replaced my device though. Theres a new build date from October, the board is blue now, and the scratch in the middle of my screen is gone. Lets hope this one works.

So my timeline went from Dec 1 - 24 from the device going out of my hands to the depot and back. They could have just replaced it like I asked on Dec 1.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aaronxvx:
updating to jl2 right now
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaestroSeven:
I can also confirm the build date for my new phone as 10 12.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kaiser__sose:
I got my phone back on Monday dec 20, sent it in on dec 10th. They replaced the phone with a new one but the build date is 10.09 and is not blue.

I'm upgrading to JL2 right now. I won't mind too much if eventually this one dies on me and I have to get it replaced with one of the re-designed motherboards.

When I took my first SGS to Bell they didn't have any smartphone loaners available so I picked up a LG Optimus from Telus for $150. It's running 2.2 (but with no flash) and the screen is much smaller than the SGS but it did the job and gave me my much needed android fix. So if my new SGS dies I can always go back to the Optimus until they repair it again.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] que3jxp:
No worries there....

They are now only replacing them for the next while!!! So turnaround should be a LOT faster.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kaiser__sose:
that's good to hear. My first repair only took 10 days but by the second day I was suffering withdraw symptoms so I had to get the Optimus.

I've just upgraded to JL2 and it's running well so far. Its lasted longer than my previous upgrade (my first SGS died within 10 mins of upgrading).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] can3gxw:
Build Date - Related to What Devices are Failing?

I'm still waiting to see JL2 show up for me, but from reading other posts and looking at people's MFG DATE, I am very curious now that this DOES appear to be batch processing related from a hardware side.

I updated to 2.2 the instant it came available for me through Kies - 4:00am AST on Thursday, December 9. The upgrade went off without a hitch, and completed within 15 minutes from start to finish. The only thing that I had to "rebuild" was my home screen. Everything was still intact, app wise, and my phone has been fast ever since.

Yes - you all read that correctly - ever since. 15 days now on Froyo, and no issues whatsoever with my SGS. Internal SD has been slammed from downloading and removing data, podcasts, apps, etc... multiple soft resets (at least 10 - just to "see what happens"), two battery pulls, and NO force closes whatsoever.

I just happened to check the build date on my phone this morning, and found

10.07

July 2010 - I purchased mine from my dealer on August 27.

From all the reading that I've done on this thread (and others) - people reporting the SD failures have build dates in Aug-Oct - could this mean that whatever "changed" in the manufacturing process in August was the cause of this?

Something to ponder..... I'd love to know if there is anyone out there that has a build date of July also that are NOT having any issues (or even if you did...)

Just curious... and my two cents....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aaronxvx:
first upgrade attempt failed

second one worked
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aaronxvx:
where do you find the build date on the phone?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] frandromeda:
Underneath the battery, next to a barcode. It'll be two numbers: 10.12 or 10.09 or something like that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cytherean:
Official update from Samsung posted on Facebook

Samsung Mobile Canada

We would like to apologize to our customers for any inconvenience they may have experienced as a result of our recent Android 2.2 upgrade for the Galaxy S Vibrant. A new version of the software, JL2, is now available for download through Kies, or visit www.samsung.com/androidupgrade for complete instructions.

We recommend that all users of the Galaxy S Vibrant upgrade to this latest revision of the firmware, to enjoy the improved performance and additional functionality that this latest revision provides.

For those who have reported issues on these pages with their service experience, and for anyone experiencing technical difficulties, please call us at 1-800-SAMSUNG, or email us at sh.support@samsung.com, and our client care team is prepared to assist you.

Thank you.

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] evil-doer:
while its nice we are getting a new 2.2 firmware today.. meanwhile in europe they are getting a faster 2.2.1 upgrade
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zshakespeare:
So what changed in JL2 that fixes the problem? Once we apply JL2 will we be able to apply other roms or are we stuck using Samsung provided roms for the duration of our term with this phone?

edit: Does it even fix the problem?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] evil-doer:
ive wondered this myself. jl2 has been floating around for a while. im wondering if they simply just pulled the original 2.2 just to give themselves time to figure out what to do, and now it seems like they are doing a semi silent recall. just replacing peoples phones as they turn them in.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aaronxvx:
ok cool. mine says 10.11
[Galaxy S I9000 General] que3jxp:
Well, I have my replacement in my hands now... Brand new, no repair. I know this for a fact as there was a micro scratch on the front of mine and it is not there now and also, there was a factory film on the front. The mfg date is Dec 2010. It has 2.1 JH2 installed on it and I will be doing the new 2.2 tonight.

I have installed several apps and the latest Google Maps. I can report that the GPS is light years faster than my old one that was mfg of August 2010. It is also FAR more accurate and hods signal excellent.

The phone is also faster than my old one ever was. It loads faster, boots faster and installs apps faster. All anecdotal but just the same, it feels a lot faster.

And to the comments on the JL2 being out there for a while, that makes no sense that it is older than JK4 as L is AFTER K and not before...

Also, can we PLEASE get info from someone who has done the JL2 update so that we know what the exact version of Android it is? Thanks!!!

EDIT: Forgot to mention the timeline. Phone died on Dec 8, shipped on Dec 9, back on Dec 24.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ronsweet:
My SGS build date is 10 10, I got this phone Nov 11 and like you upgraded to 2.2 JK4 Froyo via Kies Fri Dec 10 @ 6 PM and I have not had any problems of any sort before or after the 2.2 upgrade.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kewjoe:
I see JL2 in Kies now. Trying the update now. Cleared cache and did a factory reset beforehand (didn't really do much with the new phone, but whatever)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] got_milk:
Lucky.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] #1RAGE:
Merry Christmas Samsung. I just checked my UPS tracking number and it looks like you'll get my dead Galaxy S just in time for Christmas! :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tilallr1:
Hey does anyone know if this new JL2 update fixes some of the glitchyness on JK4? Like Contacts, Internet not closing, having to force close apps etc ...

My wife's phone will be happy if this is the case. Mine on the other hand is in some warehouse awaiting parts to fix it. What a sad Christmas.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kewjoe:
Took 4 tries, first 3 gave Crypto errors, but I have JL2 now. It's 2.2 and not 2.2.1. Kernal 2.6.32.9 if anyone cares.

Haven't played much with it, but seems snappy so far.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dragon74lee:
Well haven't been keeping up to date on this thread but there is a new update available again thru kies....talked to bell and they recommended that i update...i am on my 8th sgs...7 on 2.1 and one on 2.2....i have the bestbuy warranty so they just keep giving me new ones.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tilallr1:
DUDE :eek: and you haven't convinced them that you need another phone make? :confused: NO phone is worth that much headache.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] arr0ww:
Not sure what "subversion" is....but if you've read ANY of my post recently...Why the F would i be lying about this?

Got my phone back from the Bell store last night with 2.1 UGJH2 on it, plugged into Kies and poof JL2 update is available.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tilallr1:
Yeah I think we can all ignore his comment as many people have upgraded to JL2 so far with no major problems.

So any news on how the new phone is performing under JL2? What happens when you open your contacts and then press the back soft key to close. Does the contact app remain in your active apps? Then you have to force close?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] evil-doer:
ok so heres the next chapter of my story.

i call in to the 1-800 number on the track your repair page to try again to see if they can give me a proper tracking number to see whats up with my phone. again its another french guy. this guy is easier to understand and he seems to also understand what im saying. there was also again tons of back and forth information that seemed totally unneeded and after all of that he gives me ANOTHER 11 digit tracking number. im like.. dude. this isnt a repair tracking number, those are 10 digits. and he is like ya this is for purolator, try it. and so i do and it shows my phone was RECEIVED AT THE BELL STORE YESTERDAY MORNING.

thanks a lot guys, didnt even bother to call me to say its ready. so ive tried calling them and its just busy busy busy, left and message and theyve yet to call me back.

i wonder what time the store closes today? i want my god damn phone!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Lokks:
Just tested it and yes it does stay on the active apps when you go into task manager...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] got_milk:
Got impatient and used the Kies patcher to get rid of that stupid "device cannot be updated" message and loaded JL2 on.

Seems to work pretty well, GPS is far, far improved for me - in my indoors "testing" spot I get 10m locks in 2-3 seconds, which is *awesome*.

Looking good so far.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mr_ding:
Gave up on Bell firmware and went with Darkys v7.0, my wife seems to like that ROM better
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tilallr1:
Does that seem like a bug to anyone? Does it take forever for your home screen icons to come back after you force close contacts?

It never did this with Eclair 2.1.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] evil-doer:
is the slow choppy scrolling fixed in "applications" in this build? also try to pinch the screen within applications, that was super slow in the previous 2.2
[Galaxy S I9000 General] arr0ww:
yup, contacts stays open in the taskmgr if you press the back key....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] got_milk:
Silky smooth for me.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kewjoe:
What are you waiting for? get to the store asap! they probably close early today.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] samir_pat:
i got my phone back yesterday with 2.1 after i drop at bell store on 15-Dec. they just flash the rom again...i guess.... bell service guy said dont do any upgrade until you call me and ask. this is in scarborough town center lower level. do you think i call him for JL2 or just give a try to download.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] darrenweiner:
After over a month in the repair shop, I just got my phone back. At the end of the day, they they shipped a new phone instead of replacing the main board. It's loaded with android 2.1 and the Bell store tole me to upgrade to JL2.

I also sent an nicely worded email to the Bell executive office about the phone problems and the length of time to repair it. I actually received a call back from them yesterday and they are going to refund my data plan cost for 3 months ($90 value) to compensate me for my problems. While I'm pissed about the phone crapping out, at least Bell did the right thing by giving me some compensation.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tilallr1:
Honestly, I would want more than that from them. I want some sort of guarantee that if the phone bricks again, I can switch to any other Android 2.2 phone they offer at the time it happens. Because quite honestly, I can't see myself setting up this phone for a 5th time.

I am realistic, I don't see how a simple software update can fix a problem that has been with the phone since it was released. The phone is a lemon plain and simple. The Froyo upgrade only increased the chances of the phone dieing sooner.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wang1chung:
it's great that people are getting their phones fixed, and samsung released a new and improved 2.2 update, but the real question is, are we still limited to "bell only" firmwares like jh2 and jl2? if we load Doc's or Darky's 2.2 rom, are we going to be in the same boat? i for one do not like the "stock" rom, and would prefer to use "ligthened" roms.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] contalyst:
I just got off the phone with bell, and they are talkling about shipping me a loaner phone with a return to sender box for my brick. They cant give me details of the loaner phone at the moment tho and not sure what to expect. they said it would take 3-5 days to get here...

I know if its gone for a long time I'll be reducing my plan to as basic minutes without a data plan as I can manage if it isnt a decent phone.

EDIT: They are just sending me a replacement in the mail and I will send them back my dead one and gave me a $100 credit on my account.

He had me try connecting it to kies first and told me that JK4 killed my phone and that JL2 via Kies was the fix for my Infinite boot loop. Which didnt do a thing...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Samdroid_G_S:
Confirmed , Just got my replacment back from the bell store finally :) , plugged it into Kies and I am now on JL2 , I'm in Ont. No hacks were used with Kies.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] evil-doer:
alright, no call back from the bell store yet. im just gonna go down there now. they better have it ready. and i sure hope its a brand new phone too.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] contalyst:
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=260085296049&topic=15210

Just saw this off their samsung canada mobile FB page.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] irietek:
Samsung is making it seem like it's a software issue.

=/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xZeDgEx:
Bell just called said to come pick up new sgs. They are not repairing my old one.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] johnnyboy1:
Well my SGS was made on 10 08 and its still up and running, I dont know if I should upgrade tro Bells new firmware or just wait it out. Iv been trying really hard to kill this thing and shes still running smooth

I dont get how some die within hours and some withing days.

Meh I think Ill upgrade and see what happenes, Im still gonna beat on it (video camersa, rip to computer, delete) to see if theres any problems.

I rather it die now then in 6 months from now when I dont have warranty
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Lokks:
Yeah I just tested it you are right it takes awhile to present all the screens. This never happened on Eclair. I noticed that if you do not close contacts in the task manager you do not encounter that problem.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] johnnyboy1:
OMG so I just installed the new version and guess what screen just poped up!

Cannot read/write IO SD Dev/ garbage!!!!

You have got to be kidding me!!!! wtf?!

So anyhoo it had an option of reboot now and I clicked it and it seems like it went into my home screen and JL2 is installed, hmm thats weird so I decided to reboot and go into 3 button mode.

Now it just says "Downloading do not turn off target!!!!"

Any ideas? Do you guys still have the 3 button after update?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Hockey Nut:
Hello all first post. Great info on this forum and thanks. I am in the same situation as ronsweet(above). Should I update to JL2 or keep running 2.2 JK4 Froyo?