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[General Topics] dietotherhythm:
I met a guy at a party who was an android lover... he had a vibrant, I have a G2. He likes his phone for all the wrong reasons. As he said he likes his "iPhone like app drawer". He claimed that his phone was superior to mine because he is running a 1Ghz cpu whilst mine is 800mhz and keyboards are apparently a "thing of the past."

Didn't bother to argue. This guy obviously had douchesia, I could tell from the tilted sideways baseball cap.

But enough about him. I did a little comparing on the interwebs before I made my phone purchase. It was either between vibrant or g2. I noticed samsung's "galaxy s" line up, and couldn't help getting this feeling that they're really just releasing the same phone over and over and over.

vibrant,epic,captivate,transform?

Am I high or is it all the same god damn phone. They all come with touchwiz ui (besides transform that has stock as far as i know) 1ghz cpu, and all run on 2.1 android which is behind the times already. It's like releasing a 1.6 donut phone today, you might fool a first timer but once they learn their new shiny phone is out of date, you now have an angry consumer.

Not to mention samsung isn't very generous when it comes to physical keyboards. Do you know how much a pain in the ass it is to play donkey kong country for super nintendo with no physical keyboard? Go ahead, try it. It's horrible.

Last part of my rant, Nexus S? Nigga please. I have this feeling that it's going to be nothing more than disappointment like the other galaxy S line up. They're no longer original, they're fairly bland, and slow. Don't believe me? Check out settings>applications>manage apps and watch the delay for the icons, then compare it to a G2 with so said "inferior" specs. Or take a look at quadrant or any other benchmarking apps.

Honestly, I would be disappointed with myself if I chose the vibrant over my G2.

/rant

P.s. I forgot to mention I hate motorola, but I'll save that for another day on another thread.
[General Topics] AbsolutZeroGI:
All Samsung owners love their phones for the wrong reasons. It's usually something cosmetic (omgzorz look at my beautiful screen/cool battery cover) or something they think is unique (I had a vibrant fan tell me he bought the phone strictly for the free copy of avatar...it was the first time I cried for an emotional reason in 10 years). Basically, Samsung caters to first-time smartphone users who want more flash than functionality. All the people I know who own Vibrants are snooty rich kids with bigger pockets than brains. Y'know, the kind that drive their 2010 souped up honda civic 170 mph into a telephone pole while drunk because their parents didn't teach them responsibility.

Anywho, Sammy can really make a device look good, but to make it work well and to make it durable? Nope, I haven't seen that yet.

I upgraded to a Sammy Rant (a dumbphone slider) from an LG Rumor (another dumbphone slider) early last year. It was so bad, I switched back and kept the Rumor until I bought a Cliq and got into Android. I loved Motoblur, but I hated everything else about Moto.
[General Topics] steviewevie:
Can you blame them though, considering that's exactly what Apple does so well ?
[General Topics] AbsolutZeroGI:
Lol, I didn't say their marketing ploy wasn't genius. They sold a lot of overrated phones to a lot of stupid people and made a boatload of money. Just like Apple does. Hell, HTC even did it with the MyTouch Slide, which I bought, so I've even fallen victim to this ploy. Now I own a G2 because I've matured and I want something more than flashy colors and a subpar UI.
[General Topics] Superfrag:
Nexus S only shares the bad build quality with the SGS series.

It's 100000x times better software wise, no Touchwiz & RFS = no lag. Google has full control from the software side, Samsung's say is in hardware only.

Will have a perfectly working GPS as Google got a different chip installed.

Won't have the BT 3.0 problems that SGS had, as again Google had a different chip installed. (That's why it's 2.1)

Has much better battery life compared to SGS series.

Won't be plagued by massive delay of updates, infact it'll have 2.3 first, and even in the future it'll have a perfectly working updates like the Nexus One had over other phones. Most likely NS owners will have and enjoy 3.0/Honeycomb first, and if it is a big overhaul, it'll take it's sweet time to come to other phones.

I know why most people hate Samsung, I myself sold my Vibrant and got a G2, was such a huge relief. But Nexus S is a good phone(except the plastic look & feel), it's a Google phone, the phone for developers, processing and graphics wise, has the best hardware as of now(the package as a whole). The screen is awesome as well, and I feel 4.0" is the best size, obviously this is personal preference.

I agree that dual core phones are coming out soon, but there won't be a massive need for it. If there is, especially for developers to work with, and if by chance the Nexus S is no longer suitable, Google will release a new Nexus phone. As simple as that. For now, for people who want the pure Android experience and want updates as soon as they come out, Nexus S is the choice.
[General Topics] legendary1022:
I think this is pretty easy to figure out. The reason everyone hates Samsung is because of cheap plastic, touchwiz, and the fact that their galaxy s phones are still on freaking 2.1 when 2.2 was released before their phones even came out and they still haven't delivered on their promises. Its sad really. I had the first galaxy i-7500. I know a thing or two about Samsung abandoning their phones.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[General Topics] Stea1thmode:
Expect to receive these answers if you're gonna be asking the question on the g2/dz forum;)
[General Topics] JaMoFo:
Samsung cliq is why I will never own another samsung.
[General Topics] gteye:
Yes, our opinions, as owners of Samsung phones in the past and many of us previous owners of the Galaxy S, are completely meaningless and lack merit.

I mean seriously, why would we or the mainstream public not mind or judge these phones on the problems, as you admitted, a laggy ui, gps problems, touch wiz and the other obvious issues such as cheap plastic build and lack of promised updates.

These things should not, in any way shape or form, be taken into account when forming an opinion on Samsung devices, unless of course you currently own a Samsung because then you would be "bashing what you own" which is a totally different story.

I am glad we got that straight.
[General Topics] luis86dr:
This just in. Boost mobile phone rumored to be the next nexus 3!

[G2/HTC Vision]
[General Topics] xZeDgEx:
Owning a Bell Galaxy S Vibrant since it came out was enough to turn me into a Samsung hater.

It is in for repair for the second goddamn time. I have since picked up a HTC Desire Z and will never look back. The Vibrant goes for sale when I get it back from repair. The GPS was useless, the phone constantly froze or went into a coma, it feels cheap. The garbage phone almost soured me to Android period. HTC has saved the day.

Mod Edit: Foul language will not be tolerated. ~TheRomMistress
[General Topics] andrewilley:
Ironically, the keyboard was the number one USP which made me decide on the DesireZ/G2 - and the biggest reason Apple lost out too.

Reminds me of the iPhone/iPad fanboys who will tell you that Flash is "obsolete" just because their devices don't/won't support it. LOL, try telling that to the rest of the mainstream web!

Andre
[General Topics] lightningtrip:
+1

exactly... :)
[General Topics] Vulgrim:
Rofl.. seriously? Like I said everyone is entitled to their opinion just because you think the phone is bad doesn't necessarily mean its bad. Get over yourselves. It just isn't the device for you while for many others its perfect. That's like saying oh I used to go out with that girl, don't go out with her because of all the problems I don't like she sucks. Shiet doesn't make her bad its just YOU don't like her.

Edit: ps just because you think a feature is bad doesn't mean that just because another person likes the phone because of that its a "bad" reason. You really have the right to decide that right? LOL...
[General Topics] xZeDgEx:
I am speaking from my experience, its more than just an opinion. I swear its like some of you get kick backs from these companies and get all defensive if someone has a negative view of them. Why don't 'you' get over yourself. :rolleyes:
[General Topics] Vulgrim:
rofl... dude. Your experience is your opinion. I dont' get kick backs from defending these companies I just like to give everyone two sides of the story. Just because YOU hate it doesn't mean everyone will hate it. Just because YOU had that experience doesn't mean everyone else will have that same experience. Thats all I want to say. Something isn't "bad" just because people think it is. Everyone has their own mind and its up to the person to decide whether its bad or not. Instead of jumping on the "omg touch wiz stinks" band wagon. It might suck for you but for others who are less tech savvy it might make the phone a lot easier to use. And for as for my own input, I didn't buy the phone because I didn't like the plasticy feel thats it and I wanted a keyboard. But I don't go around sprouting stuff like I am a messiah. That's my opinion and "experience"
[General Topics] toddsk:
here's a refreshing point of view. i happen to have a vibrant...it has no issues. i like it better than the G2. who cares if ya'll hate the vibrant, i suggest you quit using others peoples opinion to form your own, and maybe your mind will suddenly open
[General Topics] catachresistant:
Philosophical debate to be had here.

DUDES.

WHAT IS THE NATURE OF REALITY.
[General Topics] Vulgrim:
To be honest, people need to start thinking for themselves rather than following what others are saying. Maybe, then they can see both sides and not just the negatives people are saying.
[General Topics] convolution:
LOL!!!

Please do share~!

I asked because of the following reason, in the shape of an anecdote.

One day there was a caveman who was lost, but then he meets a group of other cavemen.

"Which way I go?" says lost caveman.

"Don't go north. Cliff at north." says one.

"Don't go east. Sabre tooth tiger den east." says another.

"Don't go south. Poison ivy patch south." says another.

"Thanks. I go west." says lost caveman.

By learning from the experience and knowledge from the other cavemen, the lost cavemen managed to avoid falling off a cliff, get eaten, and get his ass all itchy.

Which is why I'm asking you guys.
[General Topics] juanshop:
I'm sorry but I'm myself not a fan boy at all of htc phones, in fact this is my 2nd htc phone, my first one I did not liked it at all it felt cheap, it was chunky, and a lot of bad stuff, it was a htc fuze. Now, people. Saying bad stuff about the phone is because is the way it is, and that does mean that something isn't quite right about them phones, or else why so much people just plain don't like them? My sister, that she is just a girl, doesn't know much about phones or anything came to me one day and told me: the phone you gave me, it feels cheap, and is super slow, can we go change it to the t mo store?

I mean come on this is common sense, is like, it doesn't mean because nobody likes eating poop, poop tastes bad...

There's a reason behind why people doesn't like the phones and is well founded.
[General Topics] Master Loon:
I agree. That phone was a pain to use. I disliked it so much, i couldn't even keep it as a back up phone!
[General Topics] smithfb3:
After reading through this entire thread and others.

Everyone has an opinion, on cell phones, on cell service, on cellphone accesssories. It's best to get each persons opinion, but get some background on where their opinion is based.

There are many factors to weight:

-Which cell service is best in your home, work, play area?

-Which cell service has a good reputation?

-What cell phones work on the network for your chosen cell service?

At the end of the day the phone you have is either fantastic or garbage all depending on several factors personal to you.

In the end, I still love my G1 and still use it when I kill the battery of my G2. Even though the G1 is like a scooter compared the the rocket speeds of my G2.
[General Topics] Vulgrim:
Oh I know what you are saying I just meant that to the people whom have nothing but negative things to say about samsung and don't mention the good things. There's nothing wrong with asking its just what happens after you've gotten that knowledge
[General Topics] ccb04:
Don't know why some people get mad when others are giving their opinions..Most of these guys have both the vibrant and g2..I myself havent owned a samsung phone but i have played around with my friends a bit..And just like everyone else states "they feel cheap"..really cheap to be honest..I also have another friend who switched from the behold II to a nexus one and its funny to me when he says he'll never get another samsung phone..Even if it is the Nexus S..So you decide what's the right phone for you. Don't forget you can always exchange it. One reason I'll stick with my G2 is because it has those "4g" speeds!! I hardly use my laptop nemore :D
[General Topics] adamr240:
I have a Moment. Every problem with it is because of samsung. It data locks twice a day, gps barely works (sound familiar?) and is a general POS. Its rooted, has the latest kernel and rom, and the crappy RFS has been changed to crappy ext2. It still scores a 460-510 on quadrant. I hate it.

I picked it over the hero because of it specs, but that phone works much better.

I haven't thought about the epic 4g. I'll wait until january.
[General Topics] infamousjax:
Take everything negative about Samsung and multiply it twice if it's a CDMA phone. Just don't do it.
[General Topics] philosophics:
I've been reading this thread and the other nexus s vs G2 thread and the votes are in...

Samsung makes bad phones. Majority agrees and that's not a lie.

But like stated before, make your own choice. I for one, will stick with the G2 until the G3 comes out cause IMHO, this is far better than the vibrant.

Galaxy/Nexus S has the 4" sAMOLED and that's the ONLY thing it has that is better.

The weight of the build quality is why I haven't dropped me device yet. HTC knows how to make a phone. Samsung still makes crap.

I will always dream of owning a Samsung tv though...

Sent from me HTC Vision using XDA app
[General Topics] dietotherhythm:
lol dude, motorola made the cliq

Anyways my problems with motorola date back to before android existed, it started with a peanut phone (c3...something) from tmobile back in like 2004 i think? I literally had to go in and get a new one every month because either the battery would die after 5-15 minutes of use or the speaker would stop working. My brother had a motorola cliq for a little while. It wasn't on par for the money he paid and eventually had some functionality problems shortly after purchasing it. The screen no longer reacts to touch. (He's now using my old G1) and ironically a few minutes ago the post successful page wasn't loading and my internet connectivity was out for a minute.... guess who made my broadband modem...? Ya, motoshitola made it!
[General Topics] htc fan89:
little off topic but Sony makes the best televisions
[General Topics] AbsolutZeroGI:
I used to own a cliq as well. I upgraded to the MyTouch Slide the day it came out because my Cliq would randomly drop signal and I went through 3 of them. The only reason I bought the Cliq was, literally, for the Happenings widget on Motoblur. It's the only thing Moto has done better than HTC EVER (the Friend Stream looks like it was put together overnight, by a noob). I would donate a case of beer to a dev that could bring it to the G2. I'm ex-military so social networking is often the easiest way to keep in touch with my buddies across the country/world. The Motoblur Happenings widget was brilliant, the Friend Stream was not.

Off topic, though. I would still rather own a Moto than a Samsung. HTC Evo, G2, Incredible, etc were excellent phones. All the phones with Motoblur sucked hardware-wise, but the Droid series are actually very good phones. Samsung? ...*crickets chirping*...uhm...should've stuck to TVs and dumbphones.
[General Topics] Captainkrtek:
IF this thread is going to remain open then you guys need to stay on topic and be restful of others
[General Topics] Kikonez:
Guys, Samsung became the biggest global monopoly soon :)
[General Topics] okty2k:
I think that with any phone you will find ups and downs. For example, my experience with HTC was terrible: rotation sensor stooped working just weeks after out of warranty. If you root your Samsung you will get a device much better than most of the rest.

About the build quality, I cannot complain. You can love it or hate it, just like with any other phone.

I am not a Samsung fan, but I see how happy my wife is with it and how smooth it runs whenever I am using it....
[General Topics] kingshads:
I had the Motorola Cliq for a week max. Worst phone ever. I ended up selling it and getting a htc hd2.
[General Topics] lord_nathan9:
Is there anything comparable to samsung galaxy s3 by other companies? It has all the features I want but I am open to other companies as well. I don't understand why there is so much samsung hate in this thread but aren't they the largest phone seller for android?
[General Topics] bbrad:
SAMSUNGS ARE AWESOME they don't lock down there phones like other carriers why y'all are trying to get a stupid boot loader unlocked were flashing away HAHAHAHA
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
Everyone loves sammy phones here in switzerland, except me.

They feel so cheap compared to my OneX or to friends Nexus4.

That's the case with EVERY samsung phone. They are good, and open for software development, but the hardware feels so cheap, i can't stand it.

But otherwise, their other products like TVs and screens are amazing indeed.
[General Topics] bbrad:
Well you get use to the housing it just "feels cheap" I've dropped my galaxy s 1 on concrete 5 or 6 times and hardly a scratch you get used to it then everything else feels cheap to you lol I'm still using my galaxy s1 its on android 4.2.1 a d I'm loving it
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
I dropped my OneX two, three times.

And I know some friends who droppedntheir GSI / GSII once, and it totaly broke.

Glass-shattering depends on your luck. Even tje best gorilla glass can break when it falls unlucky bad.

Lik i said, sammy is good indeed. Except.that their.android phonenhardware feels extremely cheap.

Though i saw some windows phones of them wich look and feel impressive..

Sent from my Nexus7.
[General Topics] bbrad:
I think it just depends on your luck honestly you know that supposly indesyructable phone they had a few years back? One of my friends dropped it once and the screen broke and the case broke lol
[General Topics] k2k00:
I love my S3 but i hate the warranty of samsung, because if we buy from internet does not have a warranty!
[General Topics] bbrad:
I bought my off the internet from cspire and it came with a 1yr Samsung warranty ??? It even covcered if you messed it up from rooting
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
yep, exactly as i said.

I even remember a friend breaking a samsung xcover.. however he did that.

Sent from my Nexus7.
[General Topics] Hr Kristian:
This is why I as a techie love Norway. The government demands something from companies, in this case, if a phone is faulty there is a two year warranty by law, laptops and such have 5 years!

As for the phone itself, Samsung has a loyal customer with me, I'm on the i9000 still with 4.2.1 and I'm loving it.

I also have a Samsung TV which is great, but that's not a shocker, they are pretty much the world leader on displays...

I'm hoping for a new Samsung Nexus, it will be my next phone if it is.

Never got why people feel Samsung phones are expensive or bad, sure my GPS is a bit wonky, but for a 2010 phone it's pretty great that's the only thing I've had an issue with
[General Topics] lord_nathan9:
Oh thanks. I forgot to check OP date. I would still like to know other comparable phones to the samsung galaxy s3 though. No tablets, I am not very fond of them.
[General Topics] smiodan:
Totally agree on your statement about samsung, my phone was a refurb from at&t, still working great. Tho I am going to go with the gs3 or gs4 when it comes out.
[General Topics] maddy2384:
I am using sgs plus... Am absolutely in love with the phone... Yeah the stock ROM is useless and the Samsung apps are awful... N makes the phone slow... But once you install a custom ROM.. You will love this phone... Using it since past 2 yrs...
[General Topics] Wahlburg:
I've never really had problems with Samsung phones. The battery is not the best, but they make great phones.
[General Topics] DJ aliasz3d:
Because Americans are in love with craps iPhone even though s3 l t e is far superior

sent from my i9305 running xpower
[General Topics] OMGWTFBBQRETARD:
Americans and their dumb way of thinking :D
[General Topics] bbrad:
Me the american appreciate the nice comments thank you
[General Topics] suki300me:
I do not hate samsung, but sometimes I'm disappointed. I have a pre-ordered version of Galaxy S2 which is XEU(europe brand free) I bought it at vast expense hoping I would get the software upgrades as soon as they release it. But it seems I get updates months after others.. :( :(
[General Topics] MadManMark:
I think people are hating Samsung phones because they use plastic and don't feel premium. Also the users are typically cocky about the galaxy series, and try and knock any other phones on the market
[General Topics] Ekoplex:
You don't need to see gold trimming and a titanium back to know it's a premium product.
[General Topics] polluzet:
Don't love, but like my samsung s+

I like my samsung s+, because I am able to mod it, you are free to do so, owners of an iphone not.:p
[General Topics] MadManMark:
Yeah but its nice to have a phone that looks its price
[General Topics] gbssengo:
Samsung and metal. Something they dont' do... I wish they had a metal S4. That'd be sweet
[General Topics] jRi0T68:
There are aspects of plastic that are superior to metal in areas other than price. It's lighter, is better with heat, and can bend/flex rather than dent.

I'll say the GS3 feels cheaper to me than my T989 TMO US GSII, but I don't see either as feeling cheap or lesser than other top tier devices.

-Accidental Asshole aka Jeremy

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[General Topics] Emery1617:
I am a sumsung fan

That is not true.I love sumsung phone.Photo,video,quality and so on,all are nice,have a good job.
[General Topics] dandroid c:
Samsung is OK

I have and love my HTC, but have to admit 2 years on my wife's SII is still a great phone. I also have a samsung Tab 7 2. and I am very happy with it (even better "build feeling" than their phones").

The leaders always get a lot of grief, they're so ubiquitous their flaws are easier to see and expectations run higher for them
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
You can also mod a OneX or a Nexus4.

And both feel premium, and not cheap like samsung devices.
[General Topics] CookieMaker:
This is so old, thread should be closed
[General Topics] Jay_Nz:
True.

Samsung plus android the best. I now keep apple a day away and still keep the doctor away... haha
[General Topics] khainqk:
Bad designs
[General Topics] Mirk0:
For me Samsung phones aren't bad, but I don't like the TW, and I tried different devices. For me the problem with Samsung is that sometimes it tries to imitate Apple. For example give a look to their notebooks and prices. Whatever, of Samsung I like that I can found devices for all pockets and they are up to date!
[General Topics] dj_tallboy:
magrowit called

I use Galaxy S2 and I think it is still the best phone for smartphone, because it can be updated (thanks to xda :D) and it is strong against breakage.
[General Topics] hatcher8:
Galaxy s2

Which S2 do you think is best? I am looking at the I9100 to use with Straight talk? Do you have any better ideas?