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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Danny1911:
Not yet, but there are Developers that are working on that now, so stay tuned with the news...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=817261

http://twitter.com/hd2_android

here's the video to prove the work of the developers !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KciRhnePeU

PS: It will actually be an Android ROM (I think) with MAGLDR (which is a bootloader) and will allow you to boot the Android from NAND (internal memory of the phone, this means that you can wipe your WinMo 6.5 out from your phone and replace it with the Android)

This feature is not released yet, because it's still needs some work on it, but it will be available soon, just stay tuned, and click the links which I gave you.
[Fascinate General] malvoc:
I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?
[Fascinate General] wizang:
Wrong section.
[Fascinate General] achandler2:
Root it. You can always unroot your phone and go back to stock. Ive done it plenty of time. Read through the forums....there are plenty of instructions on how to
[Fascinate General] RacerXFD:
Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?
[Fascinate General] slvrevoix:
this ^^

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[Fascinate General] RacerXFD:
You can always flash back to stock if you don't like what you did to it. I end up flashing to stock, then flashing to a rom every other week or so to clean any messes with my phone. You'll learn how to do it right and how to fix. But start by reading the stickies, and asking the guys on irc if you have questions.
[Fascinate General] SupraLance:
I'ld be more concerned that if you get the OTA before you root, that the update will close the exploit and make it impossible to root afterwards. If you root now, you may have to wait a day or two longer for Froyo. But if you plan to root after (or if you unroot for an OTA), you may have to wait a lot longer for a new root method.
[Fascinate General] ksizzle9:
Root and ROM. no question about it. We haven't even heard a release date or even a time frame for when the Fascinate will get it. I know everyone bashes me for this but the bottom line is no one has ever came out and said that the fascinate will get it on this date. Maybe the galaxy S is. But not the VERIZON FASCINATE
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nemethb:
I figured this would be a good place to discuss the new Bell JK4.

I noticed after getting JK4 that there are a few changes (ones I didn't know existed):

- the default wallpaper is different

- Bell bloatware is gone (mostly)

- the start-up Galaxy S logo is slightly different...it has a shadow effect

- in recovery mode there is now a "Format Internal SD"

- the drop down menu brightness trick doesn't work anymore

- the data logo seems different on the top bar
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Frostshock:
The data symbol is gray now, you're not crazy :p The GPS icon is also different.

- TouchWiz lock screen now has the provider name on it

- Menus are a little darker blue

- The setting for what to do on USB connection seems to be gone, incredibly annoying

- back and home together is a screen shot

My phone is certainly very fast now but that could be the factory reset. Also 75% of Skype calls turn into static, very disappointing as that was the main reason I wanted froyo. But overall excellent rom so far, I can mass install apps without it hanging for once.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yongwanee:
Pros/Cons

I've updated to JK4 as well and I'm quite satisfied.

1) Brightness setting trick - still works, but it seems you only have to drag the notification bar without having to pull it down a bit. This is good, as I used this feature frequently.

2) Bloatware - this still seems to be there, like the Yahoo search widget and other Bell apps.

3) "Car Home" and "Desk Home" - apps which are more or less shortcuts for apps frequently used in the respective environments.

4) Cursor Arrow - now there is a big arrow cursor thing whenever you click on a text so you can drag that arrow to get to a spot you want.

This is HUGE for me. This makes it so much easier to get the cursor to go to where I want it to be.

5) Copy & Paste Hovering Menu - along with the cursor arrow is the hovering menu which allows you to copy/paste. Again, dramatically improves the experience.

6) HQ Music Album Cover - Before, the album cover was low-quality even if you had high quality album art. Not anymore.

7) Video Player UI change - makes it look cleaner and nicer.

8) Auto-Rotation Shortcut - in notification bar

9) Pinch Zoom-out in Homescreen - sort of similar to Launcher Pro

Now many of these may not be specific to Bell's JK4, but I just wanted to throw it out there.

Performance wise, starting up apps feels faster, which may be real or conceived.

Downside seems to be that scrolling throw apps seems slower/laggier/choppier than before.

GPS is pretty much same for me. Works perfectly fine outdoors. Not so much indoors, though I'm not sure if GPS is supposed to work well indoors to begin with...

Sum up, an improvement over Eclair.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nemethb:
Gps won't find a fix for me. Ideas? I had cleared cache and did a reset once I installed jk4.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nemethb:
Stood outside for 2 min and got nothing. Walked inside and turned it on for one last shot...got lock.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yiannisthegreek:
I upgraded to froyo tonite and all is well so far but... I seem to be missing sseveral apps in my market downloads list even though they are still on the phone.

Anyone know why and how to fix?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rcfcyl:
Think I might have a solution to the missing apps problem. I had the same issue all my apps were still on the phone but most (all the free ones) were missing from the marketplace. The solution is simply to download any free app from the market place, install that app and then close and reopen the marketplace, all my apps were restored. Hope that helps.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jpyper2010:
FROYO killed my vibrant

Help! I just updated to FROYO on Kies... all good. After 10 minutes I started getting some process errors when running apps and suddenly (when trying to load Market), it died and started to cycle the white Samsung S GT1900M start screen, then black, then start screen, then black.... aaaaaaah! 3 button reset to get to recovery mode DOES NOT WORK (it had previously). Yanked the battery, no joy.

If I use 3 buttn rec using the volume down button I get the little android guy shoveling logo saying "Downloading.... Do not turn off Target!" but it has been sitting like that for 30 minutes.

Ideas?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] #1RAGE:
Here's my list of pleasant surprises:

- Kies connection (MTP?) always works and disconnects fine. Before when I disconnected from Kies my phone would lose the internal and external SD's until I tried to mount/unmount when connecting USB.

- Overall very smooth feeling

- Calendar now supports bi-weekly repeating entries

- Gmail app seems to be much better. Plus there is an additional update to 2.3.2 that came out just today (Gmail 2.3 comes with JK4) that only works with 2.2 and 2.3 (Gingerbread). I had to download it from the Market.

I still haven't given the GPS much time but I have yet to get a successful lock. So far it is looking worse than JH2. I will have to do some more testing.

That's all I got for now without repeating what other people have said already. So far I really love the Froyo experience. I'll post more after playing with it some more.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ThisWasATriumph:
Download mode only does something when connected to a computer. You can use it to return to stock using Odin.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] got_milk:
My GPS seems to be working pretty well, I can get a decent lock outside and in the top floor of my house in 15-30 seconds, and I tested Navigation a bit driving home from classes and it seemed flawless to me.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yongwanee:
USB Setting

Yeah, I was confused about that as well. But it's still there. They just moved it from Settings -> About Phone to Settings -> Wireless and network.

I guess connecting to PC is in the realm of networks. Anyhow, it's still there, and they now even have little android screens when you connect/disconnect.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] deezy7:
Pre Froyo, the only problem I had with my phone (i.e., no lag w/100+ apps installed, GPS was perfect) was the wonky G-Sensor. After Froyo, it works absolutely PERFECTLY!! LOVE IT!

And I'm liking this thread. Anyone who has noticed new Froyo additions specific to our phones please post them! There was another post in one of the many Bell Froyo posts that had some but can't remember now...

Post hints and tips guys!!

Also, this is a general Froyo tip, but I love it: Chrome to Phone (Chrome extension, there is one for Firefox too) and Android to Cloud...love using these to send webpages, text, maps to phone and vice versa! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sherazshahid1:
@jypyper

you have the internal sd card issue. The phone needs to be repaired.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nemethb:
I've noticed home page scrolling got smoother. App page scrolling on the other hand is slow and delayed. I've also had a few wifi errors now where the wifi doesn't kick in.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Yeria:
Anyone having any GPS lock issue or My Location based on wireless network issue? I'm using this phone unlocked on Rogers, and they're not working since the update...

GPS sees several sats every time I try it outside..like 7+, but it doesn't seem to be locking on to any of them. Again, I did not have any problem with Eclair...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaestroSeven:
I can't find the xda developers app invthe market place after the upgrade? Anyone else experiencing this?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Sozage:
I've noticed this as well.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Jsick:
I'm having a problem where my 'Back' button freezes and will not work. I press it and the light on the button goes out with ho haptic feedback, but it does not exit the screen. I can press it 100 times and it does nothing. Then, if I press the home button, it takes a screenshot and seems to unfreeze the back button...any ideas?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nemethb:
Reset. 10char
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Jsick:
I did a factory reset yesterday. Now, when I woke up today, it is still doing the same thing. Would it be because I spoofed BMC when I am with Sasktel?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] devonblue4u:
Mine is kinda laggy as well on the net with Opera, Dolphin, but not Skyfire. And Life Browser has been deleted entirely. Maybe this is fact that its loading flash in 2.2, but Life Browser makes no sense. Lag is noticeable in app scroll.

So you're saying do a factory reset? And if so, which is the best app I can download that does a full image restore so I'm back in the game quickly.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] shadoslayer:
You have car home and desk home apps? I just upgraded through Kies, and I don't have either. I do have all the other Bell crap though, like Nav, Kobo, etc.

I need car home, and I wonder if anyone has the apks...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mssmison:
according to samsung canada the sasktel update has been released. maybe flash back to stock, then update again?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wang1chung:
updated through kies (no hack) from jh2 (which was working perfect for weeks), and after 12 hours, sdcard corruption.......didn't even root it or install any applications? maybe 5-10 phone calls ,a couple of hours of angry birds, and a few photos............wtf
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nemethb:
How do you know it's SD card corruption? Try doing a factory reset.

I've had moments in JH2 where all my apps started to force close and some seriously scary stuff was happening. I reset the phone and I've been good ever since (*knock on wood*).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nemethb:
With JH2 I didn't think Samsung was doing too bad with the Galaxy S. Now that I'm on JK4 however I'm more inclined to say Samsung SUCKS with software. I mean, the home screen scrolling isn't too bad at all, but once you get into the apps it's horrible. The most appauling part is when you zoom out of the apps (pinch-in) and then try to scroll through them. I guess the good thing about having proprietary software (i.e. iOS on Apple phones and Android on GOOGLE phones...depending on how you want to look at it) is that there seems to be a better chance of getting it right (either because they care more or whatever).

Samsung should just pay Google to get Android working on the Galaxy S. Everyone would be 10x happier.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Jsick:
Just checked Sasktel's twitter and it has this:

Waiting to hear back whether I can get it from them or not.. This might be a dumb question as I'm new to updating my phone, but how do I flash to stock? I used the Kies registry patch to update to Froyo and that was pretty easy. Can I use the Kies reg patch to revert back to stock? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jpaik:
There are a few threads running on Bell & Froyo, so I chose this one!

I still have 2.1 running on my stock ROM, unrooted, problem-free Galaxy S. Are there must-have features on Froyo that make it worthwhile to ugrade? I am concerned that the upgrade will cause problems where none existed...but if there are great new features that make the Galaxy even better it may be worth the risk.

Thoughts?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] berniegp:
I also updated to JK4 and have the Car Home and Desk Home apps along with the other Bell apps. Is there a way to remove all these without rooting?

One problem I noticed however: I lost the contact "export/import to sd card" functionality (in Contacts->Import/Export). Only "Import/export to SIM card" and "Send namecard via" are present.

If I insert and mount an EXTERNAL SD Card in the phone, the "export/import to sd card" reappears. Removing the EXTERNAL SD card (therefore only the INTERNAL SD Card is present) makes "export/import to sd card" disappear. It seems that the internal SD Card is not enough anymore to expose the export option...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hansonator:
We now have a messaging button on the dialer. Not much use to me with other options but it's there. Also can turn off data from holding power button to get shutdown options.

I'm happy with it so far. Now that most apps are on sd I can do a factory reset this weekend.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] contalyst:
You ever find it? I cant get it either.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaestroSeven:
No I never did. I ended up using the version I had in my mybackups pro backup. Does that mean they don't have a froyo version?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] i3Elec:
Can someone who has the official upgrade comment on if the lag problem has been addressed?

Still unable to get the upgrade with SaskTel.

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yiannisthegreek:
Im on JK4 and I can find it just fine in the Market. I also had it installed before I upgraded to JK4 and I have not done / had to do a factory reset as of yet so I never lost it to begin with.

Not sure why you guys cannot seem to find it but I am looking at it in the Market on my SGS as I sit at my computer and type this... :confused:

Hope you guys find it...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaestroSeven:
I did a factory reset, so maybe this is why I can't see it now?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] CADmonkey:
Try searching 'xda app' that worked for me any other wording never found it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaverickHHH:
I had a very similar problem where it ended saying "internal SD card damaged". HOWEVER I did not have to send it in to repair (yet!).

I recovered holding down "home+power+volume UP" (as opposed to DOWN). This gives you a bios menu that you can reformat internal SD, cache and factory reset. Do this and hopefully it will boot up again. To be safe, do another Factory Reset from within the OS and reformat the internal SD again.

After I did this, it is up and running good so far. Currently re-configuring from scratch again...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] deezy7:
I think the Voice Search function is AMAZING. You can use voice search to have the phone fulfill your commands, like sending text messages, sending emails, going to webpages, playing music....I am very impressed with this feature because you don't have to talk like a robot...you can speak naturally as you normally would in conversation, and it does a fantastic job recognizing your commands. I was blown away by this.

Also, Gmail has had some very nice improvements to it that make it so much more functional, like being able to pick which of your accounts to send from, responding in-line, too many to list...

The performance boost is great too, as I can see a definite speed improvement, although I was already happy with the speed before. With 100+ apps installed, my phone is even snappier now on 2.2. I am loving the Froyo.

But. If you are happy the way things are, and don't want to risk it...I wouldn't. I didn't know people were still having internal sd card failures until after I updated, because I was so excited to get the stock update from Bell/Kies that I just blindly updated before checking. I am now dreading the day this happens to me, and every time my phone pauses abnormally I worry that, "This is IT!!!" lol

Good luck deciding lol

ALSO, to add to the list of changes on our phones, when you go to your Contacts, there is a new tab, "Activities" that shows Facebook and Twitter updates from your contacts! Very cool!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] shadoslayer:
So i used odin to flash back to 2.1 stock then did a factory reset and sd format and checked kies, no update available. I did the reg hack and updated to froyo. There are posts about having car home in apps but i didnt get them. I do have all the other bell apps like kobo and nav. Also it flashed without apn settings for bell.

Can anyone confirm that the flash has changed since the first folks flashed in this thread?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaestroSeven:
That was it! Did the search in the market as you stated and found it. Strange that the market search works that way...

Anyways thanks for your help.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] deezy7:
LOL, okay, I just can't help but wonder....what were you using in your search?! lol...the name of the app IS xda app lol....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] delly47:
so is this re-format option in the recovery mode, the answer to the internal sd problem, or at least a fix for it?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gtg2:
Don't forget the enhanced text editing. It's iOS-like and works well (at least compared to a system without this feature) :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rkmoray:
I upgraded last night. Slow. Quadrant standard gives it 1 950
[Galaxy S I9000 General] davanw:
Quadrant is a piss-poor way to measure real-world performance and usability.

Just use the phone. If it seems fast and stable, great! If it doesn't, explore other options. But don't let Quadrant lead you to believe that your phone isn't performing well.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kLuMzi:
Browsing with 2.1 feels smoother than 2.2

Is it because of flash 10? Flash running on websites??
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MaestroSeven:
I was searching for xda thinking it would wildcard it. It didn't.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bimmerboii:
galery seems to load slower than 2.1
[Galaxy S I9000 General] contalyst:
One odd thing I found and cant figure out...

I did a factory reset before AND after flashing, however, all of my data is still there. Pictures, videos and music! Last time i did a factory reset it wiped all of that. I backed it all up via Mass storage so Kies couldnt have backed it up. Am I on crack here?

Also my Gallery is alot slower loading content as well.

Any way to root JK4 now? I've never rooted but am willing now that Froyo is finally out.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yongwanee:
Slow Gallery

I noticed this as well. Gallery is loading much slower than 2.1... I wonder why
[Galaxy S I9000 General] contalyst:
I have lost my email server info for my shaw account on bell... anyone remember the incoming and outgoing info for this? I wrote it somewhere, just forgot where lol.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] belayson:
Thats weird, I find the gallery to be loading ALOT faster than 2.1, almost aggressively quick the way the animations zoom in and out lol. On the other hand, the browser with flash is a lot slower, almost unusable especially with flash heavy websites, its a shame, one of the reasons I was excited for froyo and now I have to figure out how to delete flash off. Oh well, I heard that problems fixed in 2.2.1, now just gotta wait for bell to push that out lol. I heard some people on bell got 2.2.1 on their phones through rooting, would that be a pretty difficult/risky process I wonder?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] CASz:
pop.shaw.ca for incoming and outgoing. Actually I used the samsung email app and just entered by email address and password and it was automatically configured.

I'm really happy with the upgrade. Everything's smooth and quick BUT after I did a factory reset I lost my Slingbox app and it's not on market for Froyo and SlingMedia thinks it is:( That was the first thing I installed and it wasn't free. I want it back!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Singhman:
I am definitely NOT happy with the browser speeds. Websites are loading up WAY slower than 2.1. If i had known this, i wouldn't have upgraded.

EDIT: I changed the "enable plug in " settings to on demand for flash, and its ok now
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Singhman:
heads up

another thing that SUCKS is that you cant do the *#*#1472365#*#* trick anymore to change gps settings! GARBAGE!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yongwanee:
Enable Plug-Ins

This is probably because Flash is automatically turned on be default, and Flash takes up quite a bit of memory and processing.

Try going into "Settings -> Enable plug-ins" and set it to "On demand".

For me, browser speeds are pretty much the same as 2.1, if not faster.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] LeeBear:
It's because of flash. If you goto the browser settings and set plugins to on demand it won't load the flash content of the webpage unless you want out to. Makes the browser faster then 2.1.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Singhman:
Awesome...thanks for the tip!..its ok now!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Singhman:
Has anyone tried to install doc's or darky's rom after installing jk4. I'm a noob, and want to flash it from the card (don't want to use odin). Do i need to install recovery 2e?...honestly, i dont even know what that is, and i'm confused. i want to intall darky's rom the "easy" way (without odin). Any ideas/guidance? thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jeff260z:
The update doesn't seem to be available in New Brunswick yet. I've returned to stock JH2 from my original backup. Unrooted the phone and not seeing the update yet.

Anyone in NB getting the update as being available?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xedd:
Yes I believe so, set your Plug-in's to On demand only.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xedd:
You need to downgrade via Odin ;) to 2.1 eclair in order to get back to 2e recovery, which is the method used to install the custom ROMs using update.zip files.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nemethb:
I believe my phone is on the brink of death. Had mass force closes and even got the dbdata error in recovery mode. Plus the phone only booted to a black screen. I ended up formatting internal memory, clearing cache and then doing a factory reset and the phone appears to be working fine now...only time will tell.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] shadoslayer:
@jeff: Nope nothing yet, I flashed using reg hack.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] QYV:
On 2.2 the email app keeps giving me a "connection error" on my exchange account. it worked for about a day after the upgrade then just started failing.