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[Epic 4G General] shook187:
Not sure if you guys been reading about Sprint and how they will switch over to LTE sometimes in 2011. But in any case look like the number of wimax headsets are going to be limited to only a 2 or 3 headsets (HTC-Knight). What you guys think about this and does it only mean we're going to have to hold on to our Epic a bit longer till the new LTE headsets are available?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/09/clearwire_sprint_wimax/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/212878/sprint_ceo_says_wimax_bet_paid_less_than_hoped.html
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
Sprint isn't going to drop Clearwire and their WiMAX network. They plan on integrating the Nextels 800 MHz spectrum, the 1.9 GHz network and Clearwires 2.5 GHz network. They will then roll out handsets that can take advantage of all of these network bands.

Source: http://www.wirelessweek.com/News/20...elligence-Network-Upgrades-Wireless-Networks/

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[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Bummer...
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
I hope they go for LTE, I'm switching to Verizon as soon as they get an LTE device anyway. Wimax is dying because no one is adopting it around the world and it sounds better on paper than it performs in real life. Sprint is losing so much money I don't know how they're going to survive.
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
Sprint is doing way better from an investment standpoint then a couple years ago. And people are adopting it around the world, and they are also going to implement LTE. Source is for international roaming for WiMAX.

Source: http://www.globaltelecomsbusiness.c.../25192/Sprint-agrees-WiMax-roaming-deals.html

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[Epic 4G General] knx2:
Haha. Verizon LTE sucks. In their tests they were getting less than 10mbps with no congestion. Don't pass on wimax just yet clearwire and sprint are releasing new markets all the time. It will take just as long for verizon to roll out their LTE and everyone will get IMO 2-3mbps until they can figure out what they are doing.
[Epic 4G General] djbacon06:
Yup. Don't count wimax out just yet.... http://www.pcworld.com/article/188205/watch_for_wimax_2_in_2011.html

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/samsung-showing-off-330mbps-wimax-2-mobile-broadband-over-at-cea/
[Epic 4G General] Razgriz:
From what I've been seeing, the only thing that Sprint has to do if they do decide to ditch WiMAX for LTE is change out a couple of cards at the servers and roll out a software update.
[Epic 4G General] quik99:
And i'm sure we will still be paying the extra $10 a month lol
[Epic 4G General] raylusk:
Tired of everyone saying lte is going to be the world standard. It does have a lot of backing but has not been proved in the real world. Wimax has been proved and works well.
[Epic 4G General] crabjoe:
Less then 7mbps? What was WiMax on it's low range, because Verizon's LTE was 7-33mbps. 7 was the low. I've read some reports of Verizon's LTE service hitting in the 50mbps on the download and in the 20's for upload.

Personally, I'd rather have Sprint change over to LTE ASAP. This way, since AT&T and VzW will both be on LTE, we can get better coverage due to roaming.

BTW, isn't Sprint's Wimax locked at 2-6mbps with possible busts to 10 or 12 mbps? If you think about it 2-6mbps is 3G already is, so why pay the extra $10 for marketing?
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
So you know, the reason why wimax is so slow on sprint is:

1) They cap it

2) They are not using their full spectrum in the 2.5ghz band...in that band from what I read they got 30mhz spectrum and right now only using 10mhz...Verizon only has 20mhz spectrum and using it all for LTE...but they opted to use the extra 10mhz in a way that will give better speed but lower capacity...hence the tiered plans...

You do know that AT&T and Verizon are going FD-LTE while sprint would end up going TD-LTE...so they will only be able to "roam" if the equipment supports both and on the right bands...

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As sprint is using only 10mhz for wimax, my guess is they will use the remaining 20mhz for TD-LTE..if you read the news sprint is working with some companies to create a better way of pickign up signals on multiple bands..aka if they end up full switching to TD-LTE it would end up seamless...you wouldn't even notice it..

I personally think going wimax was not a bad idea..its just that sprint messed it up completely...2 things that come to mind are:

1) EVO was a failure..simply because they could not keep it in stock..sprint should have had multiple manufacturers making 4g devices and say released the Epic and EVO together...instead they lost millions by having HTC fail to deliver the stock.

2) Completely failed utilizing their partners..I mean they got comcast and many other cable providers as a partners...they could have used that and made airwave boxes built into the cable and offer quadruple play with cell phones.
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
I agree with you. It looks like sprint is learning from their mistakes though. They finally are contracting out work, and going to have multiband handsets. I can't wait to see how they incorporate the existing iden network, well the frequency anyways. Maybe for voice?

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[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Aren't they selling the iden network?
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
O didn't think they were. I thought they were going to incorporate the 800MHz network.

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[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
I was just at starbucks that's 100ft from a 4G tower and I was getting 2mbits/1.2mbits down/up and outside I was getting 5mbits/1.2mbits with a clear line of sight. When I had a G1 I was getting 3-4 with a max of 6 mbits in the same spot. So no, wimax doesn't work that well in the real world. I use it more than most people and it sucks about 95% of the time. Using it while you're moving is a joke too.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Was the antenna on the tower facing directly at you? how many bars did you have? what radio were you using? who provided the equipment for the tower in question? what were you using to speedtest? how far away was the server? what was the latency?

I am in NY, I get around 7mbp/sec on 2 bars, 4mb/sec on 1 bar...and as you can guess the there are a lot of interferences and a whole lot of people using 4g..so its as "real world" as it gets..
[Epic 4G General] crabjoe:
Capped? From what I hear, only the upstream is capped at 1mbps, download is wide open. Clearwire (CW) also hold around 150mhz of spectrum in the 2.5ghz frequency. The problem is 2.5ghz is terrible for building penetration and it's going to cost more to setup all these addition sites to get the any decent indoor coverage. Also, even though Sprint owns majority stakes in Clearwire, how does it help Sprint, when it now looks like Sprint is getting ready to ditch Clearwire for their LTE testing?

BTW isn't CW now trying to sell some of that 150mhz of spectrum they hold to try and stay a float? I don't know how much of it is up for sale, but I don't think all this talk of spectrum will mean much of anything to the average consumer since Sprint doesn't own it, it looks like Sprint is now trying to get away from CW, and VzW has LTE up and running well on what they spectrum have.

As for FD/TD LTE, my understanding is that TD-LTE is already interoperable with FD-LTE, so it looks like Sprint is on the right track if they go TD-LTE. The only issue I see with Sprint roaming on ATT/VzW is roaming contract issues and Sprint would have to make sure they have a 700mhz radio in any LTE device, in addition to whatever frequency they plan on using for their LTE setup.

One question ... doesn't FD-LTE give better upload speed?
[Epic 4G General] raylusk:
I have used wimax in 3 different markets now. Portland, Oregon, Las Vegas, and Philadelphia. In all three markets I would sometimes get as little as 3 mbs down but normally would get between 6 and 8. This is right in the area verizon says their lte will reside but again there is zero real world experience to prove this.

As far as roaming on lte goes it is not likely to happen. Both because all the carriers use different frequencies and because the carriers are going to want to protect their advantage in deploying 4g. From my experience wimax works great and lte has not yet been tested.
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
I'm in NYC as well. The antennas are omnidirectional, 3 bars, stock, clearwire?, tethered laptop and speedtest app on phone, NY so pretty close, anywhere from 70ms to 150ms. The second you step inside any building signal drops at least 1 to 2 bars. Wimax is a gimmick to me and I don't think it'll succeed once more reliable technologies (possibly LTE) become implemented.
[Epic 4G General] drewsg:
With Sprint being in the financial situation that they are in, why didn't they go with LTE in the first place? Isn't it cheaper and easier to rollout because you can cover more miles with less towers?

I think Sprint is rolling it out in the worst way. Announcing cities where the coverage is so spotty you wonder why they would even "officially" launch it there.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Why do you say they will ditch clearwire..if anything clearwire is vital to their LTE..TD-LTE allows for fragmented spectrum use unlike FD-LTE..the fragmented 150mhz is perfect for deploying TD-LTE...also there is a cap of 10mb/sec I hear on download..as some people in early wimax actually had 30mbit download speed..but this was isolated incidences early on...

No, they are not trying to get away from clearwire...there is just a lot of internal dispute with revenue and things yes..but they are still in it..

Yes, but in a way wimax is also compatible with LTE...overall though I dont see verizon or AT&T allow fr roaming due to the small amount of spectrum they are deploying it in...it wouldn't be economical...

You mean by specifications? or what Verizon is offering?

TD-LTE would be deployed in the same 2.5ghz band..it would improve nothing inside buildings....the only thing TD-LTE allows is for fragmenting of bands..aka spectrum would not have to be consecutive..don't remember if wimax allows htis or not.
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
[/QUOTE]TD-LTE would be deployed in the same 2.5ghz band..it would improve nothing inside buildings....the only thing TD-LTE allows is for fragmenting of bands..aka spectrum would not have to be consecutive..don't remember if wimax allows htis or not.[/QUOTE]

So still useless in most real world applications...
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
Does anyone know what spectrum att and tmo are using for their lte?
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Because LTE was not available when they made the move...the specs were not finalized...and LTE is not cheaper nor easier..LTE and Wimax are actually fairly similar...What Sprint messed up was how they handled it, as I explaiend above, going with the EVO only and not utilizing the cable providers.

Well 2.5ghz is right there with WIFI..do you consider WIFI useless in most real world applications? While having a higher frequency puts you at a disadvantage..it is no way useless..it boils down to how its implemented...

Economically speaking it would have been better if they went wimax 2..I mean 300mbps speed even cut down 10x fold is still freaking fast lol

ATT will roll out in the 700mhz just like verizon, T-mobile has not made plans to roll out anything yet..but said they would go LTE..which would msot likely be TD-LTE...not sure which bands but not 700mhz
[Epic 4G General] crabjoe:
WiFi isn't useless because I'm stationary, but trying to use Wifi is a mobile application is.

In my hood, the lots average 1 acre. Wifi signals from my neighbors are next to nothing. Plus, I don't know what kind of power a cordless phone's antenna uses, but they run on 2.4ghz. I know my cordless won't work if I go to my neighbors house. My cordless phone won't even work when I walk down to my shed.

So based on my experience with Wifi and cordless phones, I'd say the 2.5ghz frequency just wasn't meant for a mobile application at the current power levels that cell phones use. Unless there's some breakthrough technology, Sprint, Clearwire or whoever looks like they will need 3 to 4 times as many sites at 2.5 ghz. That's has be cost prohibitive.

BTW, from my understanding FD-LTD uses a 10mhz channel for up and 10mhz for down, where TD-LTE can run both on 10mhz for the same data speeds. I don't see a problem with running data this way since most data usage is asymmetrical, but voice will be another story since it has to be symmetrical. So does this mean Sprint will keep using CDMA for voice and just use TD-LTE for data? If this is the case, it sure doesn't seem like a effective use of the spectrum or network. I think Sprint will need to look for spectrum below 1 ghz for good distance and building penetration. 2.5ghz just doesn't look good for mobile.
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Boils down to your phone...there are some 2.4ghz phones but lately most new phones use the 5.8ghz frequency...which is way up there..but less congested. As for range, Wireless N can achieve ~300m outdoors aka no walls..and ~100m indoors aka walls...this is a pretty huge increase from ~40m indoors and ~150m outdoors on the G..

Your experience though is with short range devices, not long range, am I correct? within the specifications of the range used they were able to function correctly were they not?

Lastly, you don't need breakthrough technology..sprint can setup repeaters very cheaply.. most of the deployment costs are associated with the actual equipment and integration..if they set up repeaters(which should generally be fairly cheap) it would work wonders.

The specifications for voice over LTE have not been finalized yet so its hard to say..but I don't see them sticking to CDMA for voice in the long run...it would be a waste of spectrum...

Also to note though, Metro PCS is currently deploying LTE..don't remember if TD or FD, but they are using a mere 5mhz of spectrum to deploy it (I don't remember if its 5mhz down and 5mhz up or total)
[Android Apps and Games] gi812:
i found a clock widget the other day (cannot remember where for the life of me) and i had been using it but i sbf'd from the leak to the official OTA on my DX did a data wipe and the whole sha'bang and didn't save the apk, i was hoping someone on here would recognize it by my (hopefully useful) description

it was fairly basic, only showed the time - no weather or date

on the left side was the am/pm and then it had the time in numbers (rather than words like all these minimalistic ones that are coming out)

but the part i loved most about it was that it looked like it was being reflected into a mirror/water under it

hopefully someone knows what im talking about?

thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] hiddenhandgun:
D-clock widget?
[Android Apps and Games] gi812:
and you sir, are my new hero.

thank you
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krazyflipj:
Over here you can find the madden 11 demo apk. Issue is everyone with an evo gets graphic issues. Any way someone can get this working properly with the Evo?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] hoetel4dawgs:
Graphics not working properly...g2

best rapper on the planet...youtube.com/scoobythegamber

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[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] evo madness:
Can't see the field everything all black

sent from evo madness
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
would be great to get this done on the evo like NFS got ported over too earlier on.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] anthony santana:
please fix madden 11 for the evo please I'm a huge football fan
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sgt. slaughter:
would be nice to have this for sure but seems no one wants to or can get it working
[myTouch 4G General] jbg1:
And it took it like a champ fell right on its screen out of my pocket (basketball shorts) glad nothing happened I've dropped 3 htc phones I've had nothing ever happened ...how your first drop go?
[myTouch 4G General] viperacr133:
Does it have Gorilla Glass? I heard it does
[myTouch 4G General] alex9025:
dropped mine from the table where it was charging, pulled the wire accidentally.

About a 3 foot drop, the back cover popped open, battery flew out, and somehow the the black trim popped out of under the metal bezel. But only on the right side, so I popped everything back in and been more careful ever since. No dings or scratches.

And @viperacr133, no Gorilla Glass from the looks of it, just regular tempered glass to prevent scratching, but that does not necessarily mean that GG is any better.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dweezy108:
Ive tried emailing myself ringtones but my phone tells me I do not have the right format. Can someone please tell me the correct format and how can I put my own ringtones I created, from my comp, to my My touch 4g??
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grankin01:
Make a directory on your sdcard named "/media/audio/ringtones" and put all of your ringtones in there. Then go to sounds on your phone and look for them. It may take a second for the phone to update them so check again if they aren't there.

Also, when you plug your phone into your computer and it sets itself up as a disk drive the phone will revert to a stock ringtone until you unplug it. It can't read the sdcard to use the ringtone while it is plugged in and used as a disk drive.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nguyendqh:
Is it possible to copy the ringtone on the SD card and paste it in the system/media/ringtone to make it a default one?

So that way when you do plug the phone into the computer it won't default to stock ringtone?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CBConsultation:
You will have to be rooted in order to do that, and have something like Root Explorer to copy a file into /system.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XfooYen:
Rooted, yes. It works fine after reboot. The plus side is media room won't discover those sounds. Any sound on the sd card no matter which folder you put it in (unless it's hidden), android system will show them in media app.

Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CBConsultation:
I simply added a folder on my SD card and named it 'Ringtones'. I use an app called Rings Extended and use that as the default app to search and assign ringtones.

Root is NOT required to do it this way.

If you want to set your phone to default to 'Charge' when you plug it in and not 'Disk drive', just go to settings>connect to pc>default connection type>choose what default you want.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smirkis:
Go to audiko.net on ur phone and download whatever u want. They all end up in your downloads folder, u can jus go move them later when Ur at home or stationary. I usually move them right after I download them to my ringtones folder(that I created of course), keeps things organized.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dweezy108:
thanks alot. this fixed the problem for me.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dd323:
ringtones for mytouch4g

Videotonez is really cool and works on the mytouch4g and its free
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grankin01:
no prob glad it worked :D
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themarshal80:
Alternatively, you can also make a folder in your sd card named media/audio/ringtones.. That works for me...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amdlite2:
Ok so you're screwed if ya wanna put a ringtone in the phone memory without rooting, right?

Just learning the android ropes now, coming from WinMo it's just so hard to believe that the phone storage is SO cut off from the user. I can see "locking" the system files/folders but since when you plug in to the pc you can't browse the card without cutting it off from the phone just seems silly. I do love my My Touch4G but I'm just spoiled on having access to ALL files.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XfooYen:
All phones with an external sd card function this way. An sd can only be mounted to one device at a time; either your phone or to a computer. Unless you have a phone with two sd drives, ie. Galaxy S, you have to live with it.

Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yaddamean:
If you use handcent for messaging, you dont need to create folders to use the ringtones.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XfooYen:
Actually, you can assign any sound file on your sd card as a ringtone no matter where it is, with or without handcent. The folder directory is just to make sounds show up in the system's sounds settings. You can also assign ringtones through the music player.

Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amdlite2:
That's my point, I wish I had access to the default ringers folder like the HD2 did, so when the card is "in use" via usb to my pc I would always have the same tones as when it wasn't plugged in to the pc
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amdlite2:
I do love the MTG4 but DAMN the locking you out of the simple basics...
[Windows Phone 7 General] jennan88:
Hey,

I'm considering WP7 and one thing that really concerns me is the apparently painfully slow load times associated with running third party apps.

I've seen reviewers commenting on the huge difference between first and third party software on WP7, but I haven't been able to experience it in the stores because most phones there aren't connected to marketplace.

Anyway, YouTube videos of the Facebook app show incredibly jagged scrolling and a looong load time. This directly contrasts the amazingly smooth and quick UI.

Have you guys experienced this disconnect between first and third party? Are load times really that bad? As I'm switching from an Android device most things load instantaneously, so it'd be a shame to switch to something slow.

Opinions would be greatly valued.

Thanks heaps
[Windows Phone 7 General] hidden_hunter:
yeah, I put alot of it down to devs trying to rush things out the door to get into the market place
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
That and the type of memory storage used. I personally would recommend one of the samsung or lg phones as their use of NAND storage really helps load times on apps. In the end though, it doesn't make a huge difference, and really like others have said, if devs take the time, it shouldn't take an app too long to load.
[Windows Phone 7 General] GenkaiMade:
Believe me when I say it's not down to the phones/os, but rather hurried coding on the dev's side of things. In general though, everything is crazily fast, minus the few poorly coded apps that I tend to avoid anyway :P

Alex
[Windows Phone 7 General] Aturayd:
Yeah it really comes down to apps on an individual basis. My RSS Reader and Weather Channel apps load fast, but facebook takes about 10-15 seconds to completely load everything. Shazam is pretty fast too but the "painfully long" load times are going to be graphic intensive 3D games. Those can take a minute to get from tapping the icon to actually playing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] wspaw:
Not Slow

Had my Focus since Nov 8. All of my apps have installed very quickly via Zune and Marketplace.

They all load very quickly, as well - MUCH faster than any app on my TP2. Almost all of them have been updated by the devs, though, since thier releases.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jabberworx:
I haven't had the same sort of experience to be honest. In terms of loading times everything seems to be fine as far as the apps I've tried. I've heard this stuff as well but it just hasn't been true in my experience.