yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beatle405:
Yeah, I know that is a huge advantage to the Nexus line, but I also know that if there is a great phone out there, people will root it and develop for it.

Like I said, I don't "need" a new phone, and the only thing making me think twice is the lack of SD card for music and movie space. (I travel a lot so the less electronics I have to pack the better.) I'm just curious if it would be better for me to wait to buy one in a few months or take the plunge Thursday.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
The thing about the Nexus S is that it's future proof, by that I mean so many phones out there will only get 2 updates and thats it. With the Nexus S you could keep it as long as you want because you know your going to continually get updates directly from Google.

Too many people pay attention to wether or not there is better hardware on the horizon when they really should pay attention to whether their software will continue to be updated and keep the device alive and youthful.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siberslug:
Google LG Star benchmarks

This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] booyakasha:
Wait till CES in January (6-9), there will be tons of new Android devices announced.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
Who truly needs a dual core cellphone though, honestly most people dont even need a dual core PC
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blix247:
To answer your actual question, the only two that have *strong* rumors that I've heard of, are the Evo Shift and the Playstation phone. As for the Shift, the current rumors don't put its specs as all that impressive (no front camera and snapdragon CPU). Supposedly we'll hear about the Playstation phone in February. I've read that its display is supposed to rival the iPhone 4's, whatever that is. In addition, there is a not so strong rumor that Samsung's next flagship will be in Q1. Which should definitely be better than the Nexus S in specs. Motorola is supposed to unveil some new hotness at CES. Probably actually launched late Q1 or after.

My guess is if you want a phone that clearly blows away the Nexus S, you'll be waiting until Q2 or Q3 of next year.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neok44:
basically it comes down to this.

If your a t-mobile customer and are not going to leave anytime soon, then the Nexus S is the best phone for you.

If you don't mind leaving t-mobile, then wait because in 4-6 months verizon and sprint will probably both get dual core phones but it'll probably be 12 months for T-Mobile to get off their ass and get one. outside of the galaxy s 2, but thats touchwiz.

Also if you just want a stock android phone, then go for it as well because there won't be another one for a while.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beatle405:
Q2 or Q3 may be too long for me. I've read of the Playstation phone and it seems like it may be pretty cool, but I just don't know if I want to wait that long. Is it going to be unlocked to all carriers? I am in a 2 year contract with T-Mobile due to getting my wife a new phone, leaving is pretty much not an option.

More than likely my desire for a new phone will overtake my ability to wait and I'll be at a Best Buy Thursay morning before work. :rolleyes:

Any chance they will add an SD card to the Nexus S in the near future???
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neok44:
no idea how the playstation phone carrier wise is going to work, hopefully it will be all carriers, but who knows.

Unfortountly it's safe to say that they will not be adding in an SD slot to the Nexus S. Between tons of apps to stream music and video, and the 13GB of storage that acts like an SD, it should be enough.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mklgee:
You could always buy the Nexus S then return it before the 30 days if they announce promising phones during CES. I'll be working the registration desk at CES so hopefully I have time to look around to play around with all the new phones and gagdets.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
Within the next 3-4 months? Hmm.

And also, better? They may be competitors, depending on how you look at it.

There's the LG Star, Motorola Olympus, PlayStation Phone, Evo Shift, and possible Galaxy S 2. Not all of these are confirmed for next '3-4 months' and even then, they might not even be "better".

Sure, the LG Star packs a Tegra 2. Which, in all honesty, has a GPU which barely tops the Hummingbird. Tegra 2 is nothing to be too excited about. If you want a dual core, you want the dual core Snapdragon or the Orion. The Orion will most likely be the only one paired with a gorgeous Super Amoled which is unmatched but this is also preference. Even then, these may not be out for over 4 months.

Also you need to consider software. Generally, nothing runs faster than AOSP. Nor is as open nor fast to get updated. The Nexus One STILL holds its ground merely because it has Froyo when Galaxy S phones still don't. It may not be as powerful as fast, and it may be sluggish, but it's still "ahead" in a sense. This will probably be the case with the Nexus S and Honeycomb, with the exception that this thing has a friggin Hummingbird, which is theoretically capable of running Quake 3 Arena at 90fps with the 56 fps limit unlocked.

Don't get me wrong though, the Tegra 2 isn't BAD. But it isn't worth jumping the gun over a Hummingbird when the Snapdragon and Orion are around the corner to the Tegra 2. Tegra 2 and Hummingbird is like an 'either, or'. Don't let the Tegra 2 be your deciding factor. It's all about the carrier, the way the phone feels to you, and just personal preference in general. If you think the LG Star is hot, then that's what you should get. If you think the Nexus S is hot, then that's what you should get. They will probably perform about equal.

Couldn't have said it better.

Benchmarks shmenchmarks. My Nexus One stock outbenchmarks my Vibrant stock 2.2 in both Quadrant and Linpack but the Vibrant is way faster and way smoother. WAYYYY.

The thing about the PlayStation Phone is that well, it's clunky and huge, and potentially ugly.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] isjr:
I'll tell everyone a secret android is all about software so even if someone puts out a quadcore phone that still won't let it get the newest updates any faster. After 2 years of owning stock android phones I have read thousands of posts of people complaining about why their super phone has yet to get the latest update. Even nexus users had a thread that was 5000 posts of them yelling at Google because 2.2 was a month late.

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekkitan:
The only problem is that Android isn't built and optimized (yet) for more than one core. The dual core isn't going to be making a huge impact probably for another six months or more. If you are looking for a phone now, it sounds like the Nexus S is it.

I think this thread convinced me finally to get the NS :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DKYang:
Are you guys sure you want a dual core phone? Because, you know, there are already rumors of a quad core phone coming out in 2012 or whatever. Might as well wait for it.:p
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tks989:
I'm on TMobile... I won't be waiting around. I'm grateful this phone is releasing because after that you got the MT4G's childish face looking you in the eye. And who knows how soon TMO will drop us another gem that competes w/ the NS.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schafoO:
42fps nenamark + 67 fps neocore @ lg star... 1-8fps more for tegra in comparsion to hummingbird is way less then i thought and not worth an upgrade (yet) .... the difference between snapdragon and hunmingbird is much bigger regarding the gpu

Edit: getting 47.1fps on my sgs in nenamark... 59fps at neocore(seems to be limited to 59...) sooo where's the point in tegra2 anyway? :P
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beatle405:
Hey mklgee, you mentioned buying the Nexus S and then returning within 30 days. Is this an option Best Buy does with smartphones? If so, that is an interesting idea if something does pop up soon after the Nexus release.

After reading these discussions, I think I will just go ahead and get the Nexus S on Thursday. I do wish it had an SD card though. I currently have a 16gb SD card in my Cliq that is filled with music, pics, and app info. I just hope a phone doesn't come out say in April that is so much better to make me remourseful.

Thanks for the discussion points guys.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
Most stores have 30 day return policies generally. They may charge restocking fees. Look it up
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
I REALLY hope that there is a "better" phone that comes out in the next 3 months!!!

This way I can pick up a Nexus S for cheap off of craigslist ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericc191:
I just know a week after I finally decide to buy this phone, something like a Nexus Two will be announced. Dual core, 1080p recording, something.

Someone please disagree with me so I can feel better about buying the Nexus S, cause I know I am going to. :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
LoL I'll be happy to buy the Nexus S off of you for $300 - 350 when that happens ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] isjr:
It will happen but then the people who buy that phone will being demanding in a few months that Google has to give them Honeycomb and you will be Loling at their comments because you will have it.

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mklgee:
You have 30 days to return mobile phones when purchased at best buy. The only phone that you have to pay restocking fee is the iphone. This is copied from BB's return policy.

Exchange and Return Guidelines

Exchange and Return Period

Exchange or return your item anytime from the original purchase date within the timeframe below:

14 days for computers, monitors, projectors, camcorders, digital cameras, and radar detectors

30 days for all other products

45 days for all products for Reward Zone Program Premier Silver member

Restocking fee

A restocking fee is applicable in some product categories, unless you are a Reward Zone Program Premier Silver member, the item is defective, or the fee is prohibited by law. The restocking fee charges are:

25% for Special Order Products, including appliances

15% for opened notebook computers, projectors, camcorders, digital cameras, radar detectors, GPS navigation and in-car video systems

10% for Apple® iPhones

Just ask them when you buy the Nexus S to be 100% sure. I'd hate to cost you 530$ =D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raeef:
I asked BB on Twitter few days ago, 30 days with no restocking fee.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peachpuff:
Those are all gpu benchmarks, and we all know the galaxy s does very well in them. Lets see some cpu benchmarks and see just how well the dual core does against the single core cpu's of today.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schafoO:
Yeah, i'm aware of that. I was focusing on the gpu cause nvidia tegra2 might be equiped with an pretty heavy one^^

Plus i dont see any need for faster cpu's right now^^
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekkitan:
The only problem is that most (if not all) benchmarks on Android as well as Android itself are not optimized for dual core. Therefor they will only use one core.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blushrts:
There are lots of better phones coming out soon. You and everyone else should wait. Then I won't have trouble getting a Nexus S :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] verboten:
Until better batteries are produce, I see no need for a dual core phone. A phone that would last just three hours would be pointless.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Agraceffa:
Does anyone know how to enable html emails to display or scale to the screen? For the life of me I can't find it and yet it seems like a feature that should be there. Am I missing something or is this a feature that google hasn't built into the app?

Thanks in advance.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Acid_Wir3:
hmmm i dont get it :D

anyway if your question is about scaling the emails while using gmail app, it's impossible :D
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Agraceffa:
Yes, I think you have the right idea. HTML based emails come in as full-size emails and you have to pan to read them. Pinch-zoom isn't even possible.

When I had an iPhone, the email program rendered them and scaled them to the screen size (portrait or landscape mode). I'm surprised the gmail app isn't capable of doing this.
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] iviyth0s:
I've idiotically replaced my app drawer with the music icon out of habit of dragging icons to the trash on the bottom, when this ROM has the trashcan on the top. (this thing is TOO damn customizable hahaha)

Is there a way to get it back somehow without doing a reflash??

It sucks, this ROM is finally customized to my needs then that had to go and happen. :mad:
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] BuddahWolf01:
-go somewhere on your homescreen with at least a 1x1 free space.

-long hold to add

-choose custom shortcut

-choose pick your activity

-choose Launcher Actions

-select Open/close App Drawer

-select OK

now drag that down to your center button, or where ever you want it!

I only know this because I did the exact same thing. haha
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] iviyth0s:
You are my Hero's Hero!! Thank you so much!!

Enjoy your rep point!! :o
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] BuddahWolf01:
woo first one yessss. haha but yea I flipped the first time I did that. I was like "great I'm gonna have to use the swipe up and down gestures to open close my app drawer until I figure this out."
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] iviyth0s:
Yeah i was so mad, but now thanks to you I have it all the way I want it now!!!

I love this new ROM :)
[Hero CDMA Themes and Apps] precplac1:
I was wondering if I was the only one who had done that. I wish I would have know this a few days ago. I went to reset my whole launch bar in the ADW settings, but this is much better.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Naked Sam:
Ive been working on a custom theme for MIUI for a while now and I just finished it but everytime I try to load it up on my droid it just puts me on the default theme. Help/Suggestions?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Naked Sam:
No one has any helpful advice?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] thepwneddroid:
Yes, that has been happening to me too, but that is when I try to go from scratch. There are two things I can think of right now that could be stopping that: You are on a mac and you used the built-in archive, and you didn't use astro to delete the MACOSX_. Folder, or you don't have update scripts or code that you need.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Naked Sam:
You're right about the mac. So how do I get rid of the MACOSX folder?

Scratch that. Just found it. Trying to load the theme now....

And still same default theme.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Naked Sam:
Actually I might have just found the problem. When I compressed the folder it put the actual theme folder INSIDE the .zip file instead of putting the contents in the .zip file.
[Touch GSM General] alaamac199:
Hi all ..

Just Yesterday I was out when it heavily rained .. and when I got home I found out that my Elfin has got some water (There was moist under the front cover) ..

and after disassembling and drying out with air .. I reassembled it and the result was that after running the device it stucks at Hardrest screen (which in it gives u a warning that it will delete all files blah blah) and it doesn't respond to press action key to hardrest ..

and after several try(s) I managed to get it to bootloader .. and it wouldn't upgrade the software and gives me corrupted file error ..

and last .. when I attach it to the charger the charging light doesn't go on ..

so .. as a start .. is NAND and charging circuit broken ??

and doesn't it worth fixing ?? cuz in my area we don't have HTC service center ..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sir_syberia:
first,i want to "sorry" if i asking very much...

i still confuse about APN data,when i use latest liqid kernel (11-29-10) and thougleskyle fat free froyo i have issue with apn data,

my YM cannot recieve any message when my backlight off,it always recieve when i turn my backlight on...

but when i use 2.6.25 kernal,its still have that issue,someone please help me...:(:confused::(

sorry for my bad English...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
What is YM ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
I think yahoo mail?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
I Guess he means Yahoo Messenger... I Know what he means.. most of the IM clients behave that way. Trying to safe the battery they suspend communication upon phone sleep only asking for Push after some time interval or wake up...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
He must take notices when installing Yahoo Messenger.

If the apk request "prevent from sleeping", then it will receive messages when "standing by". Otherwise, i belive it Halts comunication. Could be easily tested though, with 2 acounts, one on the android, the other on a computer.

Login on both, check computer to make sure android is online, switch off android.

If on the computer the android account is showing offline, then this is normal :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sir_syberia:
yes YM is Yahoo Messenger,i was try with my friend,i look into his phone,my account still online,but when i sending message to my account,it was nothing till i turn on my phone,do you got that issue too??this is kernel issue or what?

my friend have experia x10 mini,there is not problem with it...

edit : i try with browser to open xda forum,when loading i turn off my backlight,it still run
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sir_syberia:
should i post it in kernel thread??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
it isn't a kernel problem...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sir_syberia:
sorry to all for my bad question,this is my fault,its solve with reinstalling YM application....

it cannot be install app first,should flash .NBH first,then install application,i was trying many different kernels and roms build for stability....

i think odex build can ran more stable with .32 kernel,its reduce data corruption issue....

thanks for all who patient with noobs like me....
[General Topics] talktoanil:
I am currently using Samsung Galaxy S phone. And have dumped WinMo 6.5 for same. :)

I would like to know how app installation process of Android is different from windows mobile 6.5 OS ?

In WinMo 6.5 , i guess we have service like windows installation service which allows us to install ANY app to SD card.

However, In android , this feature is developer dependent. So which approach does android takes while installing apps because of which we miss a feature of installing apps on SD card ? why is this important feature developer dependent ?

In my view, Android OS should give option to end user and let them decide where we need to place the app.

Let me know your views. I am very curious to know the same.
[General Topics] Akulamenuri:
I also feel that it should be up to the end user where an application is stored but the average consumer really doesn't care. If Micro SD storage was important in the mind of the consumer the iPhone would not be the success that it is. There is also a chance that Class 2 Micro SD read/write times (the class that most SD cards are) could increase the time it takes for a application to launch. Also if your Micro SD card corrupts your application data could be erased, its safer for the consumer to just install application on internal storage.
[General Accessories] rohit330:
Hi all,

Few days back onwards my vox battery is draining out so quickly. i guess i have to buy a new battery. Is it reliable to buy it via ebay? And can i use more powerful battery? currently its 1050mAH Li-io

Thanks in advance

Rohit
[General Accessories] orb3000:
Yes you can buy it on ebay:)
[General Accessories] rohit330:
T

Thnx for d reply bro... This is one post i seen der....

Can i go for dis?
[EVO 4G General] devnulldroid:
With all the 4G Toggle issues, runaway errors related to it in aLogcat and having to reboot so it didn't eat up battery I decided as of today I would come up with something else.

Started using the phone to make a one-click shortcut to 4G..Hell with any 4G toggles.

Long click on desktop

..Click Shortcuts

..Click Activities

..Scroll down to Settings..Halfway down or so you will see 4G settings

..Click 4G settings

..Click Ok

You now have your own phone made shortcut to phones 4G settings with no need for any toggle. I am using LP Pro. This will also tell me if it was toggle or problem is within framework/phone. Enjoy.
[EVO 4G General] dahauss:
I dont have ACTIVITIES.. ONLY Settings and there is nothing for 4G. Any ideas?
[EVO 4G General] devnulldroid:
UPDATE: This method did not work either..Hot Boot or Reboot is what it takes to actually shut off 4G...hmmmmm somethings definitely wrong with this picture.

I dont have 4G in my area so I wonder if those who can connect to 4G have the same runaway errors in aLogcat after they shut 4G off..regardless of what they use to shutoff..Toggle or manual method.
[EVO 4G General] dahauss:
if you have sense you need BETTER CUT to do this...

BUT does this fix the issue with using a shortcut instead of the widget? I honestly do not see this error when I look in the logs...
[EVO 4G General] Stroid01:
I am in a 4G area and this works great for me. I followed the steps in the first post and added the icon to my homescreen. I was able to start and stop 4g without any issues.

What issues did u experience i am not following from your comments?

Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] devnulldroid:
I found out this problem has been Reported to Google by many and there is an open ticket with medium priority.

Experienced runaway error messages in aLogcat when 4G is turned on either intentionally or accidentally, then turned back off at any point, the following messages continue to repeat at about 2 second intervals. The only cure seems to be shutting the phone off and then back on, but this shouldn't be required every time someone uses 4G

Errors..over and over..and over........

I/Wimax ( ***): <DC> Try to establish a connection to DC server.

E/Wimax ( ***): <DC CONNECT> IO error: msg='/127.0.0.1:7771 - Connection refused'
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Took me the longest to figure out that this is what was killing my battery. I just go into settings and turn it on when I need it now.
[EVO 4G General] quocamole:
rocking cm6... so I can ignore the issue for a while. loving the speed and smoothness.
[EVO 4G General] Stroid01:
dang you are absolutly correct..no wonder this drains the battery faster. Hmm any work arounds?
[EVO 4G General] lovethyEVO:
I used tasker to make a 4g toggle. Works with no problems.
[EVO 4G General] Stroid01:
his idea for a free toggle works...but the issue is what is happening in the background after your disable 4g. The wimax continues searching for a signal over and over after disabling the 4g service causing a battery drain.
[EVO 4G General] cruise350:
I haven't experienced this, my 4g seems to shut off properly when I use the widget. At least I don't experience excessive battery drain. How do I check this. Maybe it is the rom you are using causing the problem. I'm running Sprint Lovers.
[EVO 4G General] lovethyEVO:
I honestly didn't notice this before this thread because I don't turn off 4g anymore. Most parts of sa I go to have 4g so I just leave it on. Interesting though and something for me to mess with.
[EVO 4G General] devnulldroid:
Whats even worse..I tried to even use Airplane mode and it didnt stop it... :eek:

You must Reboot (hot or full) or turn off the phone or the radio will keep going while on the plane.
[EVO 4G General] Stroid01:
download alogcat from marketplace and view the log after installing it you will see what devnulldroid posted on page 1 of this thread