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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] moneymike55:
Really neoobs? Do you really think I didn't know this? Honestly you should be working for tmobile or pushing home loans at bank of america if you actually think that's the way companies should do business, since everyone on xda and half the cs reps Ive spoken with knows its bs. Maybe a nice throttle text with no more loopholes will change your mind. I did read the t&c and actually after reading everything over again it doesn't mention a word about 5gb, the only place I found this statement was on tmobile.com (which can't even be accessed on a mytouch) and I shouldn't have to double check after the SUPERVISOR specifically told me it was unlimited and that I could still tether (believe me, I asked like 3 times to make sure because I use it everyday for work/school to access pages needing flash that I can't access on my phone). This was the only reason I renewed my contract and they knew it, and if they would have throttled me the first month when I used 9gb instead of a year later when im barely averaging 6gb I would have cancelled right away. There's a few hundred posts on xda alone with ppl asking what throttling even is and if it really applies to their "unlimited" plan, and Im sure the ppl who don't know about the limit outnumber the ones that do because I haven't heard of a single person on tmo that knew about the cap before getting their first throttle text, so obviously they aren't disclosing this condition as well as they should be.

Anyways, 5mbps on tmo 3g is awesome and it must depend on location cuz in the bay area I'm lucky to average 1.7 ... that is a pretty big difference between your speeds on tmo vs sprint tho. I'm waiting to see what "industry first" sprint is revealing on Feb. 7 (hopefully 3D phone, although a lame new tablet is more likely), and to hear back from anyone about if this mod still works before making a final decision on switching. Those speed tests are definitely something else to keep in mind, but 1.7mbps isn't much better than 1.3 and sprint has room for improvement if they upgrade their towers to real 4g, while tmo speeds will only get worse since they're signing a few thousand new contracts an hour and according to them their towers already cannot adequately support all users (their reasoning behind throttling).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Babydollll:
I agree with you completely on the T & C issue. No where did it ever talk about a cap. When I first got a smartphone (dumbphones aren't capable of reaching the cap even with tethering cuz I tethered exclusively with my Nokia 5610 for awhile), the cap was 10 GB per month. After they changed it, T Mo reps tried to deny it used to be 10, not 5. With the speed thing I think it's not only location but your proximity to the tower(s) and how much traffic those towers carry. Even though I am in Jersey City, I can see Secaucus from my deck and mainly connect to the tower in Secaucus. It doesn't seem like it has alot of others connected to it. The fastest I have ever seen is 5.60 Mbps down. It's always 1.3 Mbps up. (on TMo)

Sent from my Llama powered N1 courtesy of the xda app! Llama Power!!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Gwanatu:
It really depends on where I'm at as to what speeds I get. Where I live, which is a fairly small town outside of Orlando, I get 6mbps average download, and at work in a more metropolitan area when I'm connected to a faster tower I get around 1-2 mbps.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] moneymike55:
Wow and that's on 3g? My tower is only half a mile away and my best speedtest was 2.8, but that only happened once and Ive only hit 2mbps a few times. Definitely not unbearable, but not nearly as good as it should be for $95/mo when new customers are paying the same price for 4g.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Babydollll:
My speeds are 3g only. My N1 has a theoretical limit of 7.2 Mbps down. I have never gone higher than 5.60 however. You really do have to take into account location, proximity to the tower, how much traffic said tower is carrying, time of day... It really makes a difference.

Sent from my Llama powered N1 courtesy of the xda app! Llama Power!!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
It looks like this mod doesn't work.

I was still pretty optimistic a few post back, but apparently there is a several hour delay on using data and it showing up in the TMo Account app. So using the modified file did not hide the usage, and according to multiple posts, it does not bypass it after the fact.

And now, an 800 dollar charge for the extra data (I don't recall the General Terms provided for that though - will have to re-read them)?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] david279:
So T-Mobile can charge for data overage? How much did you go over?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] adavis159:
It now appears that they are throttling 2g data as well, I was getting 200kbps, now I'm only getting 60kbps (same as 4g throttle)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crz6662:
No they can't if your on an unlimited plan. They can throttle you but they can't charge extra.

Seems T-Mobile is becoming a shady company anymore.

Trying to say a data cap has always been in place is just a way to cover their own ass. I think they will start losing customers if they keep their current practices in place. Try upgrading your system T-MO.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
It was shadowofzeus - he did not say if he was on unlimited or not and now much data.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
Yep on t-mobile going to call them in a bit.

gaww I did say I was on unlimited. I went way over 5gb, but that shouldn't matter. Unlimited is unlimited.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] david279:
How much is way over? 10GB, more?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jefiggle:
I have that even more family plan. Unlimited data on both devices my wife has a vibrant. I mean nothing special bill a month is 170 or so.

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
Lets just say that I don't have high speed internet at home and I am unable to receive it. So way over, but that shouldn't matter.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gilnino:
We all should face the facts. Tmobile has gone south on us and giving use lame excuses like its always been this way or its so we all can share the glorious data equally as one kumbiya crap. Bottom line we are getting screwed but screwed less than the other mobile companies would screw us. I hate it but all we can do is voice our opinion.

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
Could be a lot worse (but still not at all happy with this) - they set a .5gb cap in the UK this month.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Gwanatu:
Heh, are we talking dozens of Gb? I hate to be so nosy but I'm curious!

Yeah, I read about that and nearly died. We think AT&T's 2Gb cap is nasty? I don't even know what I would do with myself if I had a 500mb cap!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] david279:
I'm curios too. He had to do 10 or 15 GB or more. And that's crazy. I don't think any mobile carrier would take that. But I though they would cancel him before charging those kinda fees. Gotta read the fine print.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pdxgolf:
Dude you need to get AAA and get the 10-13% off monthly discount. Not only will it pay for itself, you'll get AAA service.

$170 is nuts to pay.

I think I pay $101.58 for my G2 on our family plan with like 600 minutes and unlimited everything. The other phone on the line is an unlocked iphone w/T-Zones.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gilnino:
Three lines, G2, BB and mytouch..220 per month all unlimited

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
Except apparently there is no such thing as unlimited anymore.

It was a few short years ago that you could still use the $4.99/month web plan and fiddle with the APNs and you had real unlimited service. 3G saw some changes (TMo locked their 3G devices out of tethering), but the roll-out of 4G has been a major disappointment - they have TV apps but they don't want you to use them.

I was happier on 3G with no limits (had 3-4 mbps on it) then with this current 4G cap now (I get 4-6 on it, but 11-14 on home office WiFi) - what good is the 4G with the cap?

Common XDA community - find a throttling fix that works!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
Okay guys I actually posted it a few pages back but it was close to 100gb. I know it crazy, but unlimited bandwidth is unlimited bandwidth. I wasn't even doing anything all that crazy. Streaming music and Video. Played some online games. Download the clients for some free to play online games. It was just a long month because I had a lot of time off from school. I talked to them and they said it was a glitch in the system because I used so much bandwidth and the system didn't know what to do.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] poormanq45:
Alright, I need some help.

I was using the internet2 APN to bypass throttling.

Now it seems that I am getting throttled on this APN also. I am measuring about 62Kbps. Kilobits!

I have changed the roms completely from SuperD, SuperE, Chromatic 3.9.1.1, SparksMod Froyo, CM 6.1.

They are all throttled instantly.

Any thoughts?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
They are all throttled now sorry.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jefiggle:
So I watched all of season one of spartacus on my ps3 streamed through netflix tethered to my phone... that's 13hrs of playtime.. still sitting at 1gig usage.. hmm..

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Jolest:
If you haven't passed your billing date QUICK contact your carrier and see if you can change your coverage. Some carriers let you change plans and make it retroactive to the previous billing date. If yours does, switching to unlimited may save you a huge chunk of change.

Good luck.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Ted417:
Maybe somebody can get something off of this information?

http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile_Data
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
You are a case in point of my rant. Why do you feel entitled to use your mobile's service to power your home? Because you get high speeds? The data services "they are offering" is only meant for your phone, why do you think tethering is disabled by default? Just in case you decide to invoke the Broadband service plan they offer, it's $39.99 (which I am sure you don't subscribe to) and is stated clear here http://mobile-broadband.t-mobile.com/plans what you are getting. Instead of minutes, they sell you MBs, whats so difficult to comprehend? Every phone service does that. Are you seriously that ignorant to realize that you are abusing T-Mobile? They turn the blind eye on rooting and even allow the discussions to take place on their own forums, which no other service does as far as I am aware of. And of course you are impacting their service, imagine if they had no cap and there were more people like you. There is nothing deceptive going on, their 5GB cap was implemented June 28, 2008, 4 months prior to the first Android (G1) coming out. It's the basic terms & conditions that you obviously failed to read because well, it's probably T-Mobiles fault too. Here is the link: http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/Popup.aspx?PAsset=Ftr_Ftr_TermsAndConditions2008&printPage=true

"2. Protective Measures

To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth; if your total usage exceeds 5GB (amount is subject to change; please periodically check T-Mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle. We may also suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, Plan, or service if you use your Data Plan in a manner that interferes with other customers’ service, our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or that otherwise may degrade service quality for other customers."

Now just to be clear I am not some T-Mo fan boy and I agree that the cap should be larger, however, lets keep it in perspective that if used as intended for mobile data it is reasonable, more so than ATT and Verizon. If you choose to circumvent the cap due to normal usage then so be it, just don't come off like T-Mobile owes you unlimited data, that you're entitled to watch Netflix every night on your TV... After reading some of your guys post you are either uninformed or have a disproportionate sense of entitlement.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
Sorry to say but you are badly uninformed. The proxied T-Zones (the $4.99) was never offered for Android. Yes if you were rooted you could have lied to T-Mo and used it if you had it before, but as stated, that wasn't official Android plan.

The 5GB cap came into effect June 28, 2008 (before the G1) and is stated in the terms and conditions.

Last, 3G and 4G in T-Mobile have no difference other than supporting higher theoretical speeds. Same technology is used which is HSPA. The G1 supports 7.2mbs, G2 14.4mbs. Same technology which can be upgraded to over 600MB/s.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
Most of that information is old and I don't think any of it would really help. It might be useful if you want to tether and not get caught doing it, but as far as the cap I don't think there is anything there that will help.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
LOL - I am not the one with the $800 bill - there are several posts from him close by.

I was testing the mod that started this thread, and thought it might be working. I caught it in time - only used 2+ gb and my billing cycle ends in a few days.

As for the poster who watched a whole season of a program and was at only 1gb - be careful - there server may be late in updating your account.

It would be really interesting to know exactly how TMo is controlling this on the device.....
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
All this fighting and crap is mute. The cap is there and we just have to live with it. It was nice while it lasted and I am not really mad at T-Mobile for doing what everybody else was already was doing. The speed restriction is kind of ridiculous on an android phone and maybe they will see that and fix it, but probably not. I really want to know how many of you read the terms of service before you sign them. I hazard to guess probably less then a quarter of a percent. So sending people to links about the terms of service that you probably didn't even read is stupid. Now for the people who didn't know there was a cap then you haven't been doing your do dilligance as a T-Mobile Android user. Sites like Tmonews and such have been posting about the caps form the beginning.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
I know all about the $4,99 - they were trying to phase it out for years but people found ways around it. Used an "unapproved" plan on a Nexas one until I got MT4G.

They started enforcing things mostly with the tethering, and now across the board

coincidental

with the roll-out of 4G. Too many devices whit tethering and hotspot capability probably has already dinged their throughput - look what happened to AT&T with only the initial IPhones
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] juanshop:
holy crap you guys have cheap bills, i have 5 lines, 3000 minutes, only 2 phones with premium data galaxy s and g2, then there's 2 smileys and one... i don't know what it is...and i pay around... 290?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jefiggle:
I have a great sense of entitlement when it comes to the use of products. you learn that when you wash your body for 15months with baby wipes and getting shot at with indirect and direct fire as you fire your m4 wildly back at the direction the fire came from, from a people that would like to see you not make it back to your country of citizenship so you can't over use your data. Don't talk about data usage like it is hurting other people cause its not, think of it as they wanted to sell you an open source equipment without restrictions, to mod the way you want which only voids the warrenty. I use my services the way I entended to use the services I pay for. If and when I get throttled so be it, I get throttled. What's the point of using a service or rather providing a service when your not gonna a) use it to the fullest or b) allow users to persue happiness by doing what they are capable of doin with the service. People can read, people have sense enough to stop doing what they are doing, figuer a way around what they are doing, or move on to bigger and better things.

On the lighter side of things I just ate a cheese burger and it was good.

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
I am ex navy, never saw combat like that. I understand were you come from, but unfortunately the progress in the mobile world means throttling your customers and screwing them when possible. Even for T-mobile. I just wish they would up the speed cap from less then edge to a little faster then edge. Maybe 512k or something like that.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tampaboy1984:
I tried doing this method but at step 5. i get a error message in CMD saying "can't creat the output dirctory classout". Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am with Simple Mobile using HTC HD2 Running Motoman's MyTouch 4G Rom, with Radio 2.15.50.14, and HSPL 2.18.HSPL. Simple Mobile has throttled my data connection from 4Mbps down to 0.10Mbps. I would really like to get this work around working.

Oh and you people complaining about 5GB cap should feel lucky I was throttled somewhere around 2GB. LoL!

If anyone could please do the proper edit to my services.jar for me and email it to me I would be greatly appreciative.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
If you are running vista or windows 7 make sure you run the command window as with administrator rights.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
You completely misinterpreted my point. One can use their data as they wish but once they reach the cap, don't ***** and take it like a man, which it sounds like you do. I tether my self and agree that the cap should be a little bigger and throttled speeds should be higher, though 5GB isn't too bad. It just gets me how some people want their cake and eat it too. They don't want to pay for home broadband and complain because T-Mo doesn't allow them to use the phone as a substitute. They are part of the reason a cap is in place to begin with. They ***** and curse T-Mo because they failed to read the terms of their contract.

A couple of years ago it was unheard of to have unlimited minutes and we were sold plans with bundles of minutes. Data too, will eventually loosen up. However, T-Mo's current stance isn't that bad and you do get unlimited data, just not unlimited 3G/4G. They are one of the more open providers in terms of doing whatever one wishes with their phone, look at Verizon and ATT... and bottom line, if you don't like it then stfu and switch.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] JanetPanic:
Jefiggle, and I mean this with all due respect, what does your military service have to do with data caps? I did 2 tours in Kuwait and 1 in Korea, that does not have any impact on what the services offered from T-Mo are. This is the internet, people get uptight about EVERYTHING. Heck I have seen a heated argument about whether it is better to twist an Oreo cookie or pry. (Twist is the correct answer btw) Talking about field duty (or Oreos) really isn't germane to the conversation.

ShadowOfZeus - almost 100GB? My hats off to ya mate. Heck that would get you throttled on a number of land based broadband services. :) (and yes I read the TOS when I get a notification that it has changed. In fairness though I don't think I read the original TOS I signed until years later. ;) )
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rockinjer:
100 gbs is amazing, this month i got up to almost 8gbs without a txt or a slowdown, now i am definatly capped but have not had a txt yet.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hiko36:
And you, sir, are why we'll one day live in a totalitarian state. I USE the services. What's abuse to you is just normal usage to me. They can't turn a blind eye on rooting. They can't look at it at all. I can't remember what government body for sure, but didn't the FCC just rule that rooting violates no end user agreements or warranties and is completely legal??

I did, however, admit that I may have overused. I also admitted that because of how much data I used, I would be switching to home internet service so I could pull my load off the network. You apparently glazed over that part of my post. I'm not an ass. I just want to be able to use the service without worry like I have for YEARS.

I also don't remember *****ing anywhere about the cap itself. I'm complaining about the throttle speeds.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
I have to agree... the whole point is the throttle speed is way too low. It should be at least UMTS speeds and not slower than EDGE. It's b.s. for sure. So none of the apns are working for anyone anymore? What about when you edit your services.jar? Does that still work (I know it didn't ever work for some...)? I haven't passed 5GB in a couple months so I'm not sure myself...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Chadastrophic:
APNs aren't working for me anymore. I used the zip files posted w rom manager update zip from SD and no worky either. S off root and stock mt4g.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sundar2012:
so does this still work?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
As for being helped with the file - forgetaboutit. it does not work apparently.

UNLESS Simple Mobile does not do it the same way as TMo.

If you want to try anyway - use the Bash script on page 3 or 4 in the thread - worked for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
Like I said before the whole point of this thread has gone out the window. Now its about one group who thinks they are superior because they quote the TOS to everybody. And the people who get pissed at them for pushing it in their face. I think time that this tread get lock. Its served it purpose and It still will even if its locked.