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[G2 and Desire Z General] juanshop:
You can have a processor that's 3 years old rated at 1.4 and a brand new one rated at 1.4, the newer one would outperform the old one, people one thing : GHZ OR MHZ IDK THEY ALWAYS CONFUSE ME, DOESN'T MEAN CRAP, SIMPLE I MEAN THEY DO BUT NOT A LOT, SO STOP THIS WHOLE CRAP, this phone has a newer generation processor that outperforms a phone with a higher rated mhz procesor, so this requierent is bullcrap
[G2 and Desire Z General] sundar2012:
It seems unlikely to be true. Given that the g2, stock, outperforms 100% of stock 1ghz phones currently on the market (on quadrant and linpack), it would be foolish to assume it wont get gingerbread. The likelihood is that its not 1ghz, but rather, the general cpu architecture/speed that prevents some manufacturers from releasing it. Have you seen the official android 2.1 on the cliq? It is sooooooo slow you almost wish u were back on 1.5.

Clearly, processor clock speed is not all there is to computing, and likewise, a hard cap of 1ghz is an artificial limitation suggested by a PR person who is only partially right. Its not the clock, but rather the net performance measure - which the g2 handily surpasses. Otherwise, expect to see a number of next gen phones (looking at you Droid X) struggling to run 2.3.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Whosdaman:
You know what, when someone can actually put up a legitiment argument and prove to me that what I'm saying is/isn't true, then I'll say I'm you're right. Until then I don't think G2 or the Desire Z will be getting 2.3 from what it looks like right now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Stea1thmode:
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/07/gingerbread-headed-to-a-number-of-htc-devices/
[G2 and Desire Z General] xencor:
I just did.

Go back to your original post, click the link that you posted, and go to the bottom of the article. Then read.

Now stop.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Whosdaman:
There, thank you. Something I can actually read.
[G2 and Desire Z General] juanshop:
Dude 2 of us already gave the most reasonable reasons and at the end the answer if g2 will get 2.3 is common sense... jesus is is really that hard, you have clearly not done your research or u have but not broad enough...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nonentity018:
Stop feeding the troll.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Okawa:
Its really hard when its so dumb though >.>
[G2 and Desire Z General] stevencpoynter:
Vision not getting the 2.3 OS update because of a mere 200mhz?

Does that even remotely make sense?

The vision is all around a MUCH stronger device than the LG based off of FACTORY specs that I have read, one of them being half the RAM.

I was under the the assumption that Google had put these rumors to rest like..what...back in August or something? Why is this still even being argued?

"Any device that runs well with Froyo should run even better with Gingerbread. The base hardware requirements have not changed. Of course OEM updates do depend on individual OEM efforts, and I can’t speak for the OEMs, but there’s no technical reason devices able to run Froyo shouldn’t be upgradeable.

I think the Froyo->Gingerbread migration should be less painful for device developers than Cupcake->Donut or Eclair->Froyo."

-Brian Swetland.

In case the OP hasn't read every link
[G2 and Desire Z General] ksizzle9:
It may be possible that once gingerbread is being built into phones that a minimum requirement is 1ghz, but you better beleive HTC is going to have it on two of their flagship phones. And google will let them do it, HTC has done too much for android for google to deny the G2/Desire Z gingerbread. I dont own one, dont care, but can gaurantee you that these muther.... You know, will get gingerbread
[G2 and Desire Z General] Sleef:
People tend to get used to bureaucracy. Meaning, just because the idea of the G2 getting the update makes sense to us, companies have shown, time and time again, that rules are rules.

It's not like the OP went out and said "There's no ****ing way we're getting a Gingerbread update, assholes!" Yet, that's exactly how they were treated.

There's new articles out today stating that 1Ghz is required. Whether that's true remains to be seen. It seemed like a legitimate query, to me, and might have been a fun topic for discussion if the ever present rule of XDA posters needing to kick someone's **** in the dirt hadn't come out in full display.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xencor:
Oh please, get off your high horse.

Everyone was completely civil at first. By post #6, the OP's claim had already been refuted (by the link the OP himself posted, no less!).

The OP completely ignored these posts and still claimed that he "didn't need to search" for articles on the subject, nor did he "need to do [his] own research" on the topic.

And even now, when the OP's claim has been refuted by no less than 3 separate sources, he still ignores the facts.

That's when we decided to "kick someone's **** in the dirt."
[G2 and Desire Z General] juanshop:
Really.... so a phone that is rated at higher mhz but is less powerful than a phone that's its processor has lower rating in mhz but outperforms anything out there.... it makes no sense, people this is common sense... as now this phone is one of the most powerful machines out there... but because its processor is 200mhz less BUT is much more powerful than a 1mhz processor is not gonna get it just because mhz, and not considering the real thing, its overall perfomance despite mhz makes no sense... at all...
[G2 and Desire Z General] stevencpoynter:
I agree with that, hopefully my response didn't sound like I was insulting anyone.

Actually, the whole LG not getting gingerbread because of the 1ghz requirement sounds a lot like the way moto is treating cliq xt users and their still non existant 2.1 update. If the money's not there then OEM can basically say whatever they want to put the blame on someone or something else.

Essentially, LG not seeing Optimus (that is the phone in question right??) worth the dev cost to upgrade.

Moto not seeing the cliq xt (still debatable as it's supposedly coming out still) as worth the dev cost to upgrade to 2.1.

My whole argument is that the 1ghz requirement is bogus anyway you look at it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xencor:
Some manufacturers, including HTC, will probably say that some of the lower end phones won't receive 2.3 because of their inadequate CPUs, internal storage, or RAM. And maybe that will be true, or maybe those manuf's just want to discontinue support for certain devices to encourage you to buy a newer device. However, it will not be because of a hard-set 1 GHz requirement.

And I think we can all say we near certainty that the G2 is not going to be one of those discontinued devices. Not anytime soon, anyway.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Sleef:
I hope our dark lord Satan will be merciful with you, my child.

Sent from my high horse.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xencor:
I'm not saying some of us (namely me) weren't unnecessarily rude. I was, I'll admit that.

I'm just sayin the OP isn't exactly the posterboy of civil discussion either.

Sent from the depths of hell itself.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Sleef:
Ha! Fair enough.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Vandam500:
Topic Closed http://www.androidcentral.com/minimum-cpu-speed-gingerbread-googlers-say-no
[G2 and Desire Z General] juanshop:
Why topic closed? We still need time to make fun of the " writter" ahahah not but seriously, it was just common sense for god sake people...
[G2 and Desire Z General] xile6:
Wasn't it stated that the g2 is underclocked to 800mhz and it can run 1ghz with no problem? Also a phone company would make a phone that will be outdated this soon. The g2 will get 2.3 and up

And remember how the g1 (dream) wasn't suppost to get donut ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] thenotoriouspie:
guys you have to understand that hes from florida and actually writes yall out

not too many bright people come from florida ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] haitiankid4lyf:
you heard it hear first, g2 is going to get honeycomb

--my prediction
[G2 and Desire Z General] polarbearmc:
like, seriously dude...

lg said no phone under 1ghz would get 2.3. intern or not, that's a statement from a major phone manufacturer (well, not as major as htc, moto and samsung, but still)... it's enough to re-bring up concern. i don't doubt that we're going to get 2.3 for g2. it really wouldn't make sense when the g2 is pretty much the top of the line android at the moment. if not i'm going to complain my way all the way into a brand new phone by February haha. but for those of us that don't want to root (or at least not yet), it's at least a little worrisome seeing lg make that statement. so stop picking on the guy who posted the original post. it's a legitimate concern.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jrbourque:
not if you know anything about android
[G2 and Desire Z General] polarbearmc:
i know enough to know it's a crap statement but you never know for sure with these companies. if they really wanted to for some stupid reason they could just postpone an update until it never happens. of course that's what rooting is for, but just saying, it COULD happen.
[G2 and Desire Z General] nickmgray:
I think the majority of us know that the rumors are all false. They all started after Google I/O by a tech blogger (I won't name them since they have had to live with the shame already).

But, if a manufacturer is claiming that they will not update their phone to Android 2.3 due to the processor, we should all take note. They can create their own rules for their own handsets and no one can force them to do anything they don't want to do. If LG claims a 1GHz processor is needed to run Android 2.3, let's hope you don't already own an LG handset.

LG could simply be using this excuse to minimize future development costs for their current generation of Android handsets. With dual-core LG phones right around the corner, I'm pretty sure that LG wants to keep all the focus and attention away from anything that's running on an outdated version of Android.
[G2 and Desire Z General] m0bstar:
I am just laughing cause the article you linked to in the first post even says at the bottom if you care to scroll instead of reading headlines, some writer you are, that it is not true.

Win.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Okawa:
Also on top of that,

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/07/lg-invents-imaginary-1ghz-processor-requirement-to-say-optimus-o/

Yeah so everyone jumping the gun with stupid rumors STOP... If it doesnt come from google please STFU. Thank you ^_^
[G2 and Desire Z General] Whosdaman:
Y'all is with an apostrophe, and you guys are still talking about this? It's been a dead subject to me for almost three hours now hahaha

And I do take offense to that. Southerners are much smarter then Northerns. Especially since I'm a very highly educated upcoming lawyer. The "yankees" can stay up in the North where they belong. In Boston, with emphasize on the "O."
[G2 and Desire Z General] djsinco:
Janet Reno was a lawyer from Florida, she burned innocent babies with no retribution.
[G2 and Desire Z General] juanshop:
yeah it was dead to you because you realized that... well, you stepped on your own tail lol in the same article YOU linked was the answer hahaha way to do research lol and like 312423423 of us gave you more than reasonable and obvious answers... i hope i never need a lawyer in florida lOl
[G2 and Desire Z General] nikon1b4:
I'm glad we have CyanogenMod. :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] m0bstar:
That sentence right there proves you are not smarter than anyone. Let's also look at the fact Northern education topples over Southern any day, funny enough I live in Florida and can easily admit that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheMan42:
Wow, you're quite ignorant.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jboiii15:
YES g2 will receive android 2.3!

http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread

got it?!?!
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
I personally don't believe that seeing as we have a 1 ghz processor. Its just underclocked. Secondly it would be ported over onto a rom eventually. So as far as the g2 getting 2.3. It will happen. When is the REAL question.

[G2/HTC Vision]
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkeee:
omg OMG Hey dis Rly awsum GamE camE Out 2day it sez u need likE 3ghz Pantyium 4 or sumthin... DAMmm y my mom paId LIKE all dis for dis iNteL i5 CRAPuter garbage1! shees sooooooo dum!! LOL its LiKe 1.6 gihz!! i no 4 suRe it cant EvEn play dis GaMe so i madE my mom Get mee a new 1 dat sez pantyium or w/e with 3.2 gihz! YAAAA! LOL! ROFLMAO!
[G2 and Desire Z General] izzyskywalker:
The sky is falling
[G2 and Desire Z General] rex450se:
Well the OP has a donate button, so i think we should all donate a $1 to the gtfo fund. I know I don't post too often, but reading this thread and his stupidity to do any of his own research just kind of ticked me off. For someone who claims to be a "writer", I would be very interested to read what intelligent type of material he is producing.

Maybe he is behind this quality piece of writing(I mean the brochure itself).

http://cbs4.com/local/florida.tourism.visit.2.1741630.html
[G2 and Desire Z General] izzyskywalker:
I support this message
[G2 and Desire Z General] brokenworm:
This topic should've close...

Lame noobs...... Desire Z/G2 WILL get 2.3.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
This thread made me LOL :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Wow this thread was like taking a step back in time.....

It was said ages ago that Google never put any limit on their phones.

Some Russian Blogger said it required 1ghz ages ago, but that was soon proved wrong.

Anyway, the G2 has a good CPU that has been consciously under-clocked anyway, it could be pushed back to 1ghz if they wanted/needed to.
[G2 and Desire Z General] elreason4:
Considering the choice of HTC to run the G2 at 800Mhz was arbitrary to begin with, HTC could easily release 2.3 on the G2 running @ 1GHz....
[G2 and Desire Z General] edwill44:
This thread is so funny. When I was on WiMo even I knew Google didn't have a CPU requirement for 2.3. I need the OP to be my ex's lawyer. I'd never lose. Oh and BTW, being from FL doesn't make you southern. You're just from Florida. Anyone southern knows that.... ROTFL!!!!

sent from my G2 with Sense running @ 1.4Ghz
[G2 and Desire Z General] chewy106:
This made me laugh, bad writing ripping on bad writing. Especially the "somehow misnamed the Tampa Bay Rays to Devil Rays"...which was their original name.

And from the Android lead Dan Morill's Twitter:

@morrildl

Random note: there's no hard minimum processor requirement for Gingerbread. Trust me, if there were I'd know. ;)

OP may want to check out that Twitter feed ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] davidemartindale:
I normally wouldn't do such a thing, but this thread is already so derailed that one more little post can't hurt ;)

So...

This is just one man's experience, but I've traveled quite a bit. I'd say the breadth of my experience is somewhat significant.

Let me assure both of you gentlemen that there is an abundance of stupid and uneducated individuals in both the southern and northern regions of the United States. You can usually spot them by their narrow cultural bias and misunderstanding of cultural norms from regions other than their own.
[G2 and Desire Z General] SN4K3B1T3:
Its funny how he says its been dead to him for 3 hours at the time of his poast....the rumours have been dead to us for over six months...lol lawyer my ass!

Sent from my HTC DesireZed
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkadesi:
Bottom line for folks that think Gingerbread requires 1 Ghz..... The hardware doesnt limit the ability to run Gingerbread... however the hardware AFFECTS the performance of gingerbread. A 600 Mhz phone with 256 MB Ram... will not run Gingerbread as SMOOTHLY compared to a 1 Ghz 512 MB Ram phone.

it all depends on the phone manufactures if they want to release Gigngerbread for their legacy phones..... HINT: mytouch3g came out in Summer 2009 with Android 1.6, and it just got the update for Froyo couple of weeks ago.

To address the Northerners/Southereners issue... I am originally from NYC and i am working in Winston Salem, NC..... and Let me tell you, i work with some REALLY smart folks. I am one of the youngest here (23) and all my seniors are 35+

Sadly some folks buy too much into what they see on TV.....

ATTENTION MODS, PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD, FOR THE SANITY OF THIS FORUM, THANKS!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] jboiii15:
LOL 800 mhz snapdragon second gen is way faster than all the other processor except for the 1ghz 2nd gen snapdragon! so we will receive this update FOR SURE!
[G2 and Desire Z General] chaose:
I believe either engadget or gizmodo said that it's possible T-mobile & HTC will release 2.3 for their devices in march 2011.

also...

http://twitter.com/morrildl/status/12286032892403713
[G2 and Desire Z General] stevencpoynter:
Regarding what the OP said earlier using LG as proof.

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/12/09/lg.says.optimus.one.will.get.android.23.after.all/

::insert LOL::
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Sorran:
Is there any easy way to use the keyboard from 2.1 on 2.2? I find the layout much easier to use and i hate the slider on 2.2 that they used to replace the arrows. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/...&utm_campaign=Feed:+pocketnow+(pocketnow.com)

this damn phone is more locked down than Alcatraz...
[Windows Phone 7 General] gcmobile:
Thats not so. You can read it in another Thread in this nice Forum.

If happens so in Future, MS will loose more customers :D

Sent from my HTC HD7 using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Told you so!
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
as mentioned in there... you can just reapply the unlock. let's see what happens from the chevron boys before jumping the gun.

edit: and here we go... http://mobilitydigest.com/microsoft-did-not-relock-chevron-unlocked-phones/
[Windows Phone 7 General] revrak:
False alarm: Microsoft isn’t remotely locking your phone

source: http://www.chevronwp7.com/
[Fascinate General] chronster:
Is it just me, or does it seem like nobody gives a rats ass about the fascinate? Not google, not verizon, and oddly enough, not the smart people at xda...

There might be a handful of people here and there, but this phone has so much potential and I'm just not seeing it being unleashed like I saw with my TP2. Maybe I just got spoiled with that phone.

What's the development side like for the Droid X?
[Fascinate General] cesium:
What are you talking about? Do you not see all the lovely ROMs and themes being made?

The difference between the TP2 (I had one as well) and the Fascinate, is that the TP2 was one of the few good WinMo phones whereas there are a **** ton of great Android phones available.
[Fascinate General] imnuts:
You forget that it took nearly 6 months to get Android working on the phone, and they still don't have it all working. There are also considerably more people working with XDAndroid I would imagine. Development also seems to be slowing quickly as more people move away from the TP2 and similar devices. The devs are working on things, but with Froyo just around the corner, I'd guess they're waiting for it before putting to many hours into development.

Sent from my StupidFast Voodoo Fascinate
[Fascinate General] TheSonicEmerald:
I'm happy with my phone as is, heck a lot faster than my Eris, GPS is now insanely accurate, with better signal strength then my Eris.

Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, with Voodoo5
[Fascinate General] DroidBlaze:
Also keep in mind that all the new roms and kernels are not being posted here anymore. Themes are the only ones still being posted here.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] SN4K3B1T3:
So i was looking at the G2 forums and noticed that they were changing there lcd density with the app of that name...i tried on the DZ and it just wont restart after it says it needs to. I have S-OFF and full root with su, busy box, super user privelages just like the app says i need...its just not working..running villianromz with sense on the G2-fast.zip overclock kernel...dont know if anyone can help or anyone has succes with this...if nothing comes up ill delete the thread

Sent from my HTC DesireZed
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] dictionary:
Just do what I do. Either restart the phone yourself manually .. or get "Reboot Control Widget" by Protocol - X. Then add it to your homescreen (I use powerstrip, and have it added there, but yeah), select it, click on hot boot, allow SU when the pop up asks, and it should hot boot. Sometimes you have to select it again after the inital SU prompt, but yeah, you'll be good to go after that.

Word to the wise .. it WILL skew your lower graphics on a stock ROM. I personally use around 190 when I use a sense ROM, and 195 on non-sense builds, like CM. That may be too small for some. All the way down to 160 you should be good. I've used that a couple of times with no problems, just makes the pull down out of whack sometimes, and harder to type, lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] SN4K3B1T3:
Thanks alot ill give that a try asap

Sent from my HTC DesireZed
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] SN4K3B1T3:
Can i get a mod to delete this thread i figured it out with the help in this thread.

Sent from my HTC DesireZed
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] steviewevie:
You don't need to delete the thread. In fact, it could be helpful to others who have the same question in future if you leave it here.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] F0RCE:
Hi !

I would like to translate android language from english to slovenian. But the problem is I do not know how to find the language files or data-s.

I would like to do translate on ported android for htc hd 2