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[Nexus S General] sstang2006:
This N1 fanboys are almost as worst as Iphone fanboys lol.

- People are disappointed because it does't have dual core.

} Not even tablets have dual core yet and they expect to get a phone with dual core in less than 6 months. Thats what happen when people start believing every crap they read online and they get false expectations.

- Disappointed that it does not have SD card slot.

} Maybe it is just me but I will take 16gb internal storage over any 4gb class 2 micro sd card or any sd card at all. whats the big deal about sd card? That they are slower, that they may fail?

Nexus S is definably an upgrade over the N1. Maybe not the DREAM phone that we all wanted it to be but it is an upgrade. Maybe next time we start believing less crap that get published online and we will be less disappointed.

The only feature I think this phone is missing, is HSPA+, even though the G2 Im using now gets almost the same speed as my Nexus One. But I'm sure in 12 months that won't be the case.
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
Yes it's definitely an upgrade. A significant upgrade though? No.
[Nexus S General] sstang2006:
- 4 Times faster processor

- A lot better GPU

- 16 Gb internal storage

- Real multi-touch

- Front facing camera

- 720 p video recording

- New NFC technology

- Wifi-N support

- 4" Screen

I don't know what you will consider a significant upgrade but I consider this a significant one.
[Nexus S General] Rusty!:
No it doesn't

Yep

No, 16Gb external storage

Yep

Yep, but I've had one of them on previous phones for years and never used it, so not that bothered

No it doesn't

Yep, whether it's useful remains to be seen though

The N1 has this too

Yep

Some upgrades, yes. Significant? Not in my eyes. Worth £549 to me? Hell no.

Then there's the lack of notification light which is a pretty big fail in my eyes.
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
Yes. It is a big upgrade over N1. But Nexus S technology (aka Galaxy S) is what 6-7 month old now (NFC is useless, yet Bluetooth 3.0 and SD slot are missing)......give it another 3-6 month and we should have Galaxy S2.

It really looks like NS was made from left over parts from Galaxy S line which will soon be discontinued

Is it better then current Galaxies......i think so. Is it smart paying $530 + taxes to upgrade from current Galaxies......i dont know....I guess this really depends on if 2.3 upgrade is coming.....
[Nexus S General] musashiken:
Yes we all know it's an upgrade in many ways, but if you compare to other phones that are out now, it's no game changer. Especially when it's based on an earlier phone with rather similar specs (Galaxy S). Rather lackluster compared to the time when the Nexus one was announced and released. At that time, people were actually wowed by it because it was the first powerhouse smartphone for the android on a new iteration of android (Eclair).

I'd rather spend my money on a HTC Desire HD which is also considered a "significant improvement" to the N1. Oh and it still has a teflon coated body which is so much sexier than some plastic iphone wannabe.
[Nexus S General] xzr3b0rnzx:
i predict the next line of nexus series phone will be manufactured by motorola
[Nexus S General] skunz35:
I'm still going to get one if they get at&t 3G, I'm more than excited about the nexus s, its going to be great!!
[Nexus S General] Mactagonist:
I am not blown away by the NS. But I think I will be getting one on the 16th.

I am disappointed by the:

lack of dock connectors

lack of HSPA+

lack of a second mic for noise cancelation

internal storage

bottom shortcut keys that only illuminate when in use

but every one of those complaints will be wiped away by the proper, working multitouch on the NS. Now that Google has written it off as unfixable (see: Google Maps 5 not fully supporting the N1) It is time to move on.

Once I sell the N1 and desktop dock It should be <$200 to upgrade to the NS, I am willing to pay that price.
[Nexus S General] Btus:
Maybe it is teflon coated but you should know how much care does teflon need. It is really easy to scratch. My gf has scratched it after 6 weeks handling with the dhd like with an egg.

Plus like somebody already said-nexus is a dev phone. So stop complaining about it.

Greetings from Poland

Sent from my freaking awesome Galaxy S
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
Docking is supported through USB in all Galaxy S phones, also headphone jack has video out. Dont know if NS has those features though....
[Nexus S General] sstang2006:
I just compared it to the N1 not to any other phone.

When the N1 came out there was not even a quarter of competition of android phones that there is now. Thats why it was so easy to be the king of the hill.
[Nexus S General] musashiken:
Lol, I'm not complaining. Why should I? I'm not buying it. I'm merely dissing the phone. It's very good as an android phone, but it does not deserve the Nexus name.

And yes all phones get scratched and dented, that's why we got cases. I prefer to just take out the casing and marvel at the teflon coat when I'm alone or showing off to friends.

I have no doubt the Nexus S will perform superbly with Gingerbread. But most N1 users want the whole package, that means aesthetics included. The Nexus S is downright a Galaxy S clone which tried to wear the discarded skin taken from a dead Fruit phone carcass. And that's what bothers me the most.
[Nexus S General] musashiken:
Well I agree, that's why when Google and HTC makes a phone with dual core processor, lots of storage space, a good multitouch screen, qvga front camera, hdmi out, Non-iphone design and running on multi-core optimized Honeycomb, the Nexus S will be a thing of the past.

One can dream right??
[Nexus S General] Btus:
Lol, i have thought that this is google buisness how they are naming their phones :-)

My SGS has no visible scratches (unless you use a strong flashlight on it) on the back and absolutly no scratch on the screen even if i have been almost throwing and punching it all time. So i think nexus s is really almost a dream phone.

Btw There are not any apliccations that use dual core (and there wont be unless iphone gets dual core) so what do you want more? Google will support it for a very long time - is there something more worth? What a pitty i have no money for it because i have spent everything i have got to buy myself ps3 and bravia:(

PS Spartphones development reminds me now development of PC about 4-6years ago. It was damn fast and then suddenly it has almost stopped. That will happen with android phones too. So there is no way of such whining now.

PS2 I didnt want to be wise guy or agressive so peace:p

Sent from my freaking awesome Galaxy S
[Nexus S General] sstang2006:
Hundred percent true. You can be sure that I'll be in line all night for that. But it won't happen in the next 6 months. Until then the Nexus S will be my toy..
[Nexus S General] gururise:
The Nexus S is no slouch of a phone, but if we only look at the hardware aspect, the MyTouch 4G appears to be the better phone:

http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=t-mobile-mytouch-4g

Hardware Advantages of MyTouch 4G:

- More Ram (768MB vs 512MB)

- Removable SD Slot

- HSPA+ 4G capable

- 720p Video Recording

- FM Radio

- Newer Processor (2nd Gen. MSM8255 1Ghz Snapdragon)

Hardware Advantages of the Nexus S:

- Bigger/Better Screen (4.0" SAMOLED vs 3.8" SLCD)

- Gyroscopic Sensor

- NFC Chip

Both devices are running the latest 1Ghz processors, though the Mytouch 4G uses the slightly newer 2nd Generation 1Ghz MSM8255 Snapdragon.

Now the software, with Stock Android is where the Nexus will shine; however, with the recent rooting of the MT4G and porting of CyanogenMOD, we may have a superior competitor.
[Nexus S General] badnewswrx:
Trackball notifications ftw!!!!
[Nexus S General] Sindroid:
Im confused.

I thought the Nexus One was just a product designed to rattle the cellphone market and kickstart certain areas within the business. That this was the only purpose of the phone and not for sales itself. Either the source was wrong or Google got more hungry.

Reading the spec's there is nothing groundbreaking to buy this. Is a Samsung product which is a turnoff itself. I loved the Nexus but the constant addiction of squeezing more and more batterylife became an obsession. But that is not the reason why i sold it.

Anyways, i hope Google markets this phone proper this time if they really want to sell it. The only reason to get it is because of Gingerbread.
[Nexus S General] apollostees:
I think this phone is all about marketing. I think this time either they, or probably Samsung, said 'let's market this phone like we intend for people to buy it.'

Look at the clues:

1. Gingerbread is only a minor incremental upgrade from Froyo.

2. The Nexus S specs are nothing groundbreaking.

Both of these clues imo point to a rushed release.

Again Imho, the only reason to release this phone and OS version in their basically incomplete state is to cash in on the holiday season.
[Nexus S General] galaxys:
Noothing groundbreaking on this Ns. It does look more & more like it's marketed for holiday sales...
[Nexus S General] NexusDro:
Is 720 x 480 considered HD recording? Because on the Features page, it says this

The rear-facing 5 megapixel camera is capable of taking stunning pictures and

HD videos

that you can share with friends and family. The front-facing camera can take VGA quality images and video.

So either one of them is typo I guess. HD video has to be at least 1280 x720, right?
[Nexus S General] davados:
Omg can't believe it followed a add to preorder a nexus s from the car phone ware house. I looked through all the contracts they are offering noticed the spec and other info. It has a built in battery what a mistake imo big fail
[Nexus S General] chromiumcloud:
The main problem is that Nexus One phone owners are very intelligent people and take the new release as an insult to their decision capacity.

I believe Google is NOT going to use this as their developer phone unless they are retarded. Why have Joe Blow and Aunt Angus buy this phone at Best Buy only to be overwhelmed when Google pushes the latest updates to it?

If Google is using this as their Dev phone, someone in their marketing department should be fired ASAP.

If I were Google, I would release another phone, a Dev phone, with all the goodies that Devs like. As others have stated, it was clear that the Nexus S was an attempt to rapidly push a phone out for the Christmas season and hope that all the headlines around Gingerbread would help carry sales. Else, why not wait until IO?

Eric S. has publicly complained that his company can't turn out products like they used to, but when you let your finance department make all the decisions, that's what happens. What ever happened to the puzzle tests that Google used to do for employment? Apparently there were not enough smart people in the world LOL.
[Nexus S General] walie:
Thats debatable
[Nexus S General] irishrally:
I wonder if the Nexus S bootloader can be unlocked easily like the Nexus One.
[Nexus S General] greenstuffs:
The galaxy S has an unlocked bootloader.
[Nexus S General] morfy50:
This whole thing reeks of bad timing.

Google wanted the best display so they go with SAMOLED. Who else can get these nowadays but the creators, Sammy.

They needed to push this thing out before the Xmas shopping season is over, so the quickest way was to repurpose a Galaxy S. Given more time I have no doubt we'd see more specs/features. (would love to know how long the phone was actually in development!)

Then there's GB. At this point it's obvious the only reason we didn't see it a month ago (or maybe more) is because they wanted the Nexus S to be the first device running it.

Imo, it all appears cobbled together. Going by the G1 and Nexus One, this isn't typical Google.
[Nexus S General] irishrally:
I'm strongly considering picking up the Nexus S and would like to know if when hspa+ comes to the city where I live if my N1 or NS would see a big jump in download speed despite not "having hspa+"?

On my N1 I get no more than 1Mb/s down. If that number would jump to 7Mb/s when hspa+ comes to town I can definitely rationalize the Nexus S not being hspa+ compatible. 7 times my current speed will do.

Can someone please explain how this really works?
[Nexus S General] :
You'll get a boost on both the n1 and the ns.

They both use 7.2 mbps antennas.
[Nexus S General] jlevy73:
I live in a strong hspa+ zone. Pre-hspa+ I got about 750kb down after it went live my speeds jumped to around 4mb. The Nexus S will probably see a similar speed boost
[Nexus S General] SBERG117:
Im in south Fl. Using speed test i get download speeds ranging from 3.7 Mbps to 7+ Mbps. Upload is between 0.55 Mbps and 1 Mbps.
[Nexus S General] Mactagonist:
When the carrier upgrades your local cell site to support HSPA+ they will also increase the backhaul (the connection from the tower to the network) to support the faster data speeds. So even though both the N1 and the NS are limited to only HSPA 7.2, unless you are already seeing speeds in the 7.2Mbps range you will likely see an increase when your local cell site is upgraded even though you wont be able to exceed 7.2 speeds the way that some devices like the G2 can.
[Nexus S General] draugaz:
I think it is much simpler than this.

It is not a typical consumer product targeted to land under the Xmas tree. For a few nerds - for sure, but not for the typical joe & sue. And with the carrier support as it is, nobody expects any significant sales. This is just a plain hard business fact.

Which means, that OEMs of this world are not exactly keen to produce the next Nexus. The development still binds resources and costs them money, but does not promise any return. Unless Google steps in and offers something interesting. Be it a pile of cash, vanity, special privileges, whatever.

Only very few OEMs are in the position to produce the next Nexus. For example, Motorola and SonyEriscsson are definitely out of the question as they barely have resources to cope with their business operations.

So, no wonder that NexusS is a least intrusive modification of some standard device. Someone needs to cover the costs, the expenses which will never return.

And yes, NexusOne is different. It was a different game at that time.
[Nexus S General] Rondrian:
i still can't believe, that google has build the new nexus together with samsung and not with HTC - epic fail!
[Nexus S General] egzthunder1:
Thread moved to Nexus S General.
[Nexus S General] suhas_sm:
Get over it now :P
[Nexus S General] andyandrwew:
has everyone gone retarded?

the Nexus S has all the newest technologies on the smartphone world to date.

it is made by Samsung, most likely, because they are the number one sellers of Android technologies.

16gb is definitely enough for average, or even slightly above average, users.

NFC won't really be a big deal for a while but the point is that it will be a big deal.

it is FAST...like F.A.S.T.

did anyone see the battery life?

Talk time up to 6.7 hours on 3G
(14 hours on 2G) Standby time up to 17.8 days on 3G (29.7 days on 2G) 1500 mAH Lithum Ion

the only thing IM worried about is the camera. its almost the exact same. BUT im pretty sure the genius behind Google has a reason...
[Nexus S General] demo23019:
HTC has good build quality that's about it. but even their N1 BS with lint behind screen was a joke and how did they handle RMA for people who just bought $530 phone they sent them "fully tested" refurbed phones ... lol give me a break and then people who had returned phones ended up with more problem with the "fully tested" ones

And clearly htc has some top notch hardware. look at N1 with cheap touch chip and poor range bluetooth it always seems like pulling teeth for them to budge on hardware upgrades take that crappy touch chip that got used on like 3 android phones after the N1 before Verizon put a stop to it by telling them to fix the mutitouch problem before producing the HTC incredible

You probably wont read this since thread got moved but what ever
[Nexus S General] :
It's the fastest thing out right now......only for like a month.

CES is coming around and bricks will be **** all over the place.
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Yet it doesn't support HSPA+ or "4G" which the MyTouch4G and Epic 4G do; it records at 480p HD while the Galaxy S records at 720; it lacks a microSD slot which many other Android phones have; it gets a downgraded Bluetooth; and it lacks an LED notification light, which many other phones have as well.
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
JC your almost always right so it seems like I will have to wait till after CES to decide on purchasing the Nexus S :)
[Nexus S General] clubtech:
I could not agree more. EVERY HTC phone I owned had two or more horrible hardware issues and this is why I decided to give Samsung a chance.

No one is perfect but I have to admit that the galaxy tab I am currently typing on has the BEST hardware quality I have ever touched (and I had a lot of smartphones...).

I hope the nexus s will deliver the same quality ...
[Nexus S General] gogol:
Second to this. I have enough of HTC crappy hardware inclusion.

And I am glad Google choose Samsung, the Hummingbird platform is still better than Snapdragon (GPU side).

Of course Snapdragon could have something new, but Google can't wait! Right now, the best combination of CPU and GPU is the Hummingbird.
[Nexus S General] booyakasha:
I don't doubt a dual-core, 1080p-ing phone will be announced at CES (that's what CES is for, showing off the latest and greatest you have to offer), but as many have mentioned already, it's unlikely, IMHO, that such device will launch until the middle of 2011. I know a lot of people are pissed cause they wanted something that would serve as the flagship device for the next two years until you're upgrade eligible, but thats irrational. This industry is moving and developing so fast that nobody today can fathom what will be the standard six months from now.

Basically, deal with it. The S is a great device for today. If you aren't able/willing to accept better things are on the horizon then move on to an iPhone. At least there you have a set product cycle, and can be told what the "greatest"* device is for that year.

*general consensus, not my opinion
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
Your a very wise man booyakasha. I completely agree on the wanting a device that is the king for even 1 year is irrational. People are sometimes paralyzed in the moment by the fear that something in the future might be better.

Just wondering, since I see you have sprint, are you planning on switching to T-mobile in order to get a Nexus S?
[Nexus S General] booyakasha:
Aw shucks, just speaking my mind :o

Luckily, I'm in a great situation. I'll be studying abroad in Austria next semester, so I'll be selling my Evo and buying an S to use while abroad. By the time I come back, who knows what Sprint will have to offer. If (God forbid) there is nothing that makes me go weak in the knees, I'd consider switching to T-Mobile. They offer pretty good student rates and they seem to be getting some serious Android lovin' these days.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] peterocc:
It's official! The SDK for 2.3 is out. Get your ADB warmed up!

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3.html
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] okonmiendrasuo:
Awwww, this is so exciting...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] initialh:
YESS!!!!....... TMO Vibrant WuuuuHoooooo
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Bateluer:
Woot. Should stave off my overwhelming desire to upgrade for a while longer.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Quipper2008:
Can I get with the 2.3 SDK e.g. the framework-res.apk?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] momeesick:
Does the 2.3 work on SGS GT-I900?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Xephik:
When can we pull the keyboard and live wallpaper from it?

EDIT- Nevermind, a simple google search got the job done. Im using it to type this, its pretty swank.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] celebi23:
Any chance you could link to the live wallpaper? I can't seem to find it
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Prodigy Joey:
Does anuone have the default 2.3 android's wallpaper as still picture?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewsoong:
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/06/new-htc-desire-firmware-update-available-2-29-405-2/

Sorry for being a complete noob but does this apply to anyone using a custom rom?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sheik_yerbouti:
No it doesn't. These updates are only for non-rooted, stock ROMs.

Thanks for the heads-up.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andQlimax:
U cant apply the OTA to rooted rom with a custom recovery

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=862634

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=828519&highlight=ruu

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=862820
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mockingbird87:
Bricked?

Ok now I went on and did the most stupidest thing I could think of. I actually managed to install the update on a rooted Desire and now it wont boot, Im stuck in a boot loop :(( Can someone please help me with this problem?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Which is why people say don't flash on a rooted ROM
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jozefch:
use "search forum" for unrooting/stock recovery

You must download and use PB99IMG via recovery...

I've allready made this mistake but recovered :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funkymagicuk:
Can't see another thread...

Just did the upgrade, haven't really noticed anything yet, although the onscreen keyboard I THINK looks a bit different.
[Epic 4G General] hayabusa1300cc:
I had a fix for my Evo to not compress fotos

Is there a such fix for our epic I can flash?

I am on Froyo.

Thanks <3
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] sxmohan72:
I use this program, and it's amazing.

Weather touch Free / Pro - animated video weather forecast for Windows mobile Pocket PC PDA. Video effect snow, rain and clouds.

Touch Weather - animated weather forecast for Windows mobile Pocket PC PDA Smartphones.

This can be downloded from touch-weather.com
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ardatdat:
Now, using my Archos 70IT machine,

After bootup, I need to run z4root (temp root) to root the machine,

then, I open up the setcpu to check the CPU frequency profiles,

repeating the steps again and again for each boot up...

Heard that it is hard to root as the system files are protected using a squashfs compressed image (with encryption?)

Cannot touch the system files make me feel sad :(

- I want to modify the hosts file to bypass all the advertisements

- I want to remove not-used system apps

- I want to modify the init.rc (maybe lagfix?)

- I want to apply wifi ad-hoc fix

- bla bla bla....

So, I would like to ask for the progress of rooting? Any news? :cool: Anything I can help to speedup the investigation?

Many of plenty of thanks to all those rooting gurus ~~~ !
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sia:
I also have same problem. Can anyone advise how to resolve. Many thanks.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DougEdey:
I think, though I can very easily be wrong, the problem right now is gaining write access to the partitions, the main system partition is mounted Read Only.

I'm trying to find time to look at this but I don't think I'll be able to get any time untill the weekend.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] span_01:
Yeah, from following a bit of the action over at archosfans.com forums it seems the system is mounted as a read only SquashFS image.
[Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrulri:
As soon as I get my A101 I'll dig deeper into this problem. Hopefully we'll get a working solution :cool: