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[Nook Color General] cutterjohn:
PowerVR SGX 540 v. 530 and the Tab is running2.2 which, alone is a huge performance boost w/jit.

It's like the Guy who came into the gTab forum the other week asking about the single class of benchmarks that the gTab doesn't spank the Tab in, synthetic graphics benchmarks, see the anandtech preview. The Tab is just horribly overpriced for what it is, $600+isn't unlocked, or $450+ and 2y data plan min $30/m -> c. $1200 total... insane... Geez I think that even $400 for the gTab was high, even $350 yesterday considering that there are cheaper netbooks.

NC still pondering getting one. $250 is not bad but don't kid yourself they're still making money on it. Chinese tablets with similar hardware and more (bt and GPS) for c. $200 (witstec A81-E).They're losing on Nook when it was cheaper, but it looks like it's price went back up. [EDIT] Forgot this one has resistive touch screen and no accelerometer IIRC and the GPS was a $10 or so option... and only 256M RAM... [/EDIT]

Women at Nook kiosk claimed that BN is planning OS updates already to 2.2/2.3 when I enquired about that. Performance didn't seem too bad in the store compared to my gTab given that Nook is 200MHz slower, single cored, a8, and still running 2.1. I just want a 7" tablet to go with my gTab for portability and better use as a reader. Screen is better versus the gTab too, but lack of hardware buttons is disconcerting, really needs a soft button hack Andrew maybe repurposing volume buttons to menu and back.

[EDIT]

Not sure about the OS updates as even though the woman had her own Nook Color (forgot to ask if she rooted it yet, she was more interested in reading whatever it was she was reading than trying to sell the NC to me....) understood correctly what I meant about OS updates... i.e. she MAY just have thought I was asking if they were going to update their fw and not really the Android OS itself...

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[Nook Color General] ricoishere2:
Nook Color

OS - Android 2.1

Screen - 7" Multi-touch Capacitive TFT LCD with 1024 x 600 resolution (169 dpi), anti-glare

Processor - 800mHz Cortex A8 processor

Ram - 512 MB

GPU - POWERVR SGX530

Internal storage - 8GB, microSD card slot supporting up to 32GB

4,010mAh battery, 8 hrs

WiFi

Bluetooth (none at the moment, likely enabled with custom rom)

3.5 mm stereo headphone jack

Size - 205mm x 128mm x 12mm

Weight - 447g

Samsung Galaxy Tab

OS - Android 2.2

Screen - 7" Multi-touch Capacitive TFT LCD with 1024 x 600 resolution (169 dpi)

Processor - 1GHz Cortex A8 processor

Ram - 512 MB

GPU - POWERVR SGX 540

Internal storage - 16GB or 32GB, microSD card slot supporting up to 32GB

Front-facing 1.3 megapixel camera and rear, 3 megapixel camera with flash

4,000mAh battery, 6 hrs with wifi on, 3G off

WiFi

Bluetooth

3G with GPS A-chip

3.5 mm stereo headphone jack

Size - 190mm x 120mm x 12mm

Weight - 380g

They are pretty close in my book.
[Nook Color General] cutterjohn:
The Tab is a sick joke IMNHO, a scam for cash from the not so attentive/inquisitive...
[Nook Color General] turbo1987:
I would also wait for CES 2011. Expect that lot of 7 inch 2.3/3,0 tablets will be announced. Tegra 2 dual core devises should wipe the current 7 inch tablets :)
[Nook Color General] ArtyCarl:
I bought the Galaxy Tab first day here in the UK for £599 which is a hefty pricetag. Mind you my iPhone 4 cost £499 simfree so by that comparison the Tab is not hugely overpriced.

I was looking for something a little cheaper for a friend and the NC caught my eye as with a bit of fiddling it looks like it would be perfect for him. On eBay I could get one for less than £250 (one seller) but I did notice that there were a couple of Galaxy Tabs on sale for £399 brand new.

At the original cost price the Tab is too expensive but only 6 weeks later and you can buy it for £200 less. From what I have read around the internet the Galaxy Tab is a little bit better than the NC in every way and the price is the all important factor when considering a souped up NC but now that it is possible to get the Tab cheaper I would say the price differential is a lot less important and I would say go for the Tab.
[Nook Color General] Admiralvic:
In terms of US currency the difference is still nearly as much as another nookcolor...

The main issue here is while the nook requires a bit of hacking to be as amazing as the tab, overall the difference is not enough to justify buying 1 tab over 2.5 nooks XD
[Nook Color General] TainT:
I think your just made cause you own a viewsonic ??

After using the rooted Nook Color for about a week now. The only reason I wont return my Galaxy Tab is because of the hardware differences. the browsing experience (Dolphin HD FTW!!) Is almost identical.

I will say the lack of hard keys on the nook really gets annoying. Still a pretty awesome little device.
[Nook Color General] cutterjohn:
No, because the fact of the matter is that IMNHO the Tab is grossly overpriced for what it is. I even find the gTab to be somewhat overpriced but not in the same category as the Tab. I mean come on it's just an a8 tablet for $600+ unlocked or $400+ + $700+ for 2y data contract? That's just nuts.
[Nook Color General] TainT:
I paid $349 and my dataplan is half of what I was paying for my nexus.

Perspective I guess.

Galaxy Tabs.....Worth every penny!!
[Nook Color General] cutterjohn:
Yes, I have problems with their flagrant profiteering on the Tab's pricing structure, which, alone is enough to make me not even consider it. Unfortunately I'm expecting the Motorola tablet coming out (Tegra2) to be in the same boat thanks to 3G tieing...

That's a pretty good data plan price, but AFAIC I add that to whatever you paid for the Tab since it was mandatory unless you bought unlocked. That price is also significantly cheaper than the cheapest plans that I've seen which were c. $30/m, either way giving you $450 + $349 = $799 for a lousy tablet? Could've gotten a halfway decent "real" notebook that can do real work for that price!
[Nook Color General] ricoishere2:
Rooted Nook Color vs. Samsung Galaxy Tablet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwp9IqhBTNs
[Nook Color General] shanghei:
Does the nook color have ability to play xvid files?
[Nook Color General] khaytsus:
Cool side by side, but god almighty.. BUMP BUMP BONK BUMP BONK BUMP BONK.. I had to turn the volume off to watch the whole thing.

I really am liking the NC but damn I really don't want it without the ability to do GPS... GPS over Bluetooth is fine, but no Bluetooth.. yet. Hopefully someone figures out how to turn that on, if it's there.
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
Got a NC last night--after rooting (AutoNooter), keyboard replacement (Droid X), softkeys, setcpu, Launcherpro, etc., I'd consider this an amazing Android tablet for $250! I haven't spent much time with the Galaxy Tab, but I used to have an iPad and I prefer this (#1 it's Android, #2 it's not Apple).

What gets me is that it doesn't feel like a modded Nook Color - to me, it handles more like a Galaxy Tab that's just missing a few hardware features (features that many of us have on our Android phones anyway). Cheers to all the devs who made this possible!
[Nook Color General] norkoastal:
I just played with a GTab yesterday... While the screen was great, and general speed was pretty snappy, its a bit chunkier in thickness to the NC and isn't fast enough to justify its hefty price tag. The GPS and cams while are nice additions, they become pretty useless when you have a capable Evo or other newish phone that will eventually provide **crosses fingers** GPS and bluetooth capabilities.
[Nook Color General] devis:
I think the OS makes a world of a difference. We have a stripped down version, the Tab gas a full and newer one. Once we get 2.2 the playing field will be a lot more leveled.
[Nook Color General] martytoo:
Original reports were that the Nook Color can't see the wireless tether from the original Droid. Is this still true or is there a solution? Can you do wired tethering with a Droid?
[Nook Color General] jcrip:
Unfortunately my NC cannot see my wireless tether from my original droid (running CM 6.1.2) :(
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
Does the original Droid support infrastructure mode, or just ad-hoc?
[Nook Color General] webvan:
It's not a Nook limitation it's an Android limitation, there are thousands of angry users!

The good news is that there is an easy fix for the NC -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9843769#post9843769
[Nook Color General] martytoo:
So without reading all 6 pages, it seems that the Nook Color will connect to the adhoc network of a Droid 1 if you do the commands listed and that it will also connect with a cable tether.

Am I reading (actually skimming) this thread correctly? Thanks for your patience, but I don't have time to read all six pages of posts and even if I do read them I might misinterpret what I am reading.
[Nook Color General] svennn:
I just got my new Nook rooted yesterday.

It will connect to my rooted Evo 4G with wireless tether with no problems. I'm running the pre15 release of wireless tether.
[Nook Color General] martytoo:
There are at least two different ways that the phones perform wireless tether. The original Droid does it in the less preferable way.
[Nook Color General] ictguy78:
I followed the instructions and I am currently using my NookColor via Wifi from my HTC Hero. The only downside is that when the NC screen shuts off, I lose WiFi. The NC does not autodetect Wifi when the screen is turned back on. I have to turn Wifi off then back on again for it to see my phone (or any Wifi network). The quickest way to do this is to press the time/battery indicator at the bottom of the homescreen. It pulls up quick settings.
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
You can download Spare Parts from the market and use it to set the Nook's wifi sleep policy to Never. If I didn't misunderstand your issue, I think that should take care of it.
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
It's not even an Android limitation, it's a hardware limitation. If the WiFi chip in your device supports infrastructure mode, you can create a true wireless access point. If the chip doesn't support infrastructure mode, it can only create an ad-hoc network.

Support of infrastructure mode is one of the reasons I got an HTC Incredible.
[Nook Color General] webvan:
I was referring to the client mode, no one except for Google has ever had the nerve to disable it!
[Nook Color General] RoboRay:
Lots of things can't connect to ad-hoc networks... It's not just Google being "the only company to ever disable a standard function." It's a pretty common limitation for handheld devices, consoles, and other "non-computer" computing devices.
[Nook Color General] martytoo:
Interestingly, the iPod touch and iPhone can connect to the ad hoc network I enable on my Droid. However, my friend had an iPhone that he hacked to run Android OS. That couldn't see the Droid's Internet wifi network service.
[Nook Color General] webvan:
Having just seen the Blackberry PlayBook at CES today I feel confident in saying that it blows any existing tab out of the water in terms of interface and responsiveness, the lack of apps is a problem of course but shouldn't last for too long with its likely success. Truly amazing!
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
I'm an Android loyalist myself, but other OS's bringing out quality products can only be good for everyone, as I see it.
[Nook Color General] webvan:
Yes, same here, I'm a big iPhone/iPad fan too but when you see something you've got to say it. The PlayBook's interface is really amazing, all bezel controlled and they're using the old real-time QNX OS too...hadn't heard of it since the internet appliances of 1999/2001, I think the Virgin on ran QNX.
[Nook Color General] notinterested:
I couldnt imagine paying all the extra money for the Tab.

I was all on board for one back when it was announced then they revealed no super amoled and no wifi only version (yet) and the big price tag turned me off quickly.
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
Yeah, that rubbed me the wrong way, delaying the wifi-only version until after the holidays. I understand a business wants to maximize its profits, but I think there are ways to do that AND do what benefits your customers. Taking advantage of the holiday season to sell more 3g models to those who otherwise would have wanted wifi-only is, to me, not making your customers' interests a priority.

The funny thing is, they weren't counting on an e-reader as competition. Obviously NOOKcolor rooting is still somewhat on the fringe, but I bet it put some kind of dent in the Tab's sales.
[Nook Color General] nrune:
For me it was a case of funds so it was the nook or nothing. There was no way that i could afford any thing more expensive than the nook and in those terms I am very happy with the nook limitations and all.

Mike

sent from my nookcolor using the xda app
[Nook Color General] wvcachi:
Haha man, there was some serious auto-correcting going on in that post :p
[Nook Color General] CalsNC:
Hi All,

I had the NC for about 10 days and auto-rooted it. I'm not a eek and have never done anything like it before. When I booted after the root and it came up, it shocked the hell out of me!! F**k I did it!

Then showing it and playing with it, I tried to hotmail and the NC started clearing data etc. I got unregistered etc, and scared the hell out of me, thought I bricked it!

I went back to reread the Root instructions and realized I didn't do all the follow-up. I did the 8X boot and U, VOl. pwr and it booted to android window with HOME and Quickstart. I finally figured out Home went to B&N, Qstrt went to the droid page.

I reregistered and returned the NC cause I could.

The reason is I contacted the B&N NC app development people, and they said there was no sure thing for 2.2 to come. I'm not a gamer, I wanted to be able to cut and paste docs, and other WORD type things for my patalegal classes.

Right now I'm missing the NC and may go back and get it.

I wish I had you guys expertise and root the hell out of it. The only thing at CES that seems affordable and comparable is the XOOM.

But, my minds eyes is...data palns be damned. Love reading all your interactions!

Calvin
[Nook Color General] Mikroft:
Galaxy tab wifi only is only about 100 cheaper. At $499 its still way too expensive.
[Nook Color General] vadomori:
I am using rooted NC and my wife is using korean version of tab. (with voice calling enabled) I have played a quite a bit of time with both devices, and concluded although they look quite close in paper the tab is clearly worth the higher price:

-Screen wise: about the same (IPS should be better, but both are good)

-Build quality: Tab is better (My NC is poorly assembled)

-Handling: Tab is better (lighter and slightly smaller, easier to hold in one hand)

-Performance: Tab is MUCH better. I'm running dolphin HD browser for both and for NC pinch zooming is sluggish, on the other hand Tab is butterly smooth.

-Video playback: Tab is WAY WAY better. It can run any video I throw in. (even 1080p ones) NC cannot play most of the videos without resorting to software playback using rockplayer. My tab has one sample video with 1024*600*30p, and I tried to play the file with NC and got 7~8 fps. :[

-Sound quality: Tab is WAY better. I am quite disappointed with NC's earphone jack as I can hear lots of white noise. And NC's internal speaker is not up to Tab's clear stereo speakers.

-Others: Tab has two cameras, GPS, Compass, Gyroscope, 3G connection and 3G calling for non-american models, so it is really a all in one device and can run ALL android apps with it.

And NC has no microphone = No skype or gchat. Ipad has one and I used to use skype a lot, so I really miss this feature.

-Price: $249 for NC, $600 for 3G tab. A wifi tab is coming and the price will be reduced a bit, so it will be more like $250 vs $400~500 (wifi tab)

Overall, I think tab is WAY superior device to NC and the price difference can be totally justified.

However I still love my NC as well, and if you already have a smartphone you'll be quite happy with NC.

BTW I'd owned an ipad too, and sold it after I got those tabs :]
[Nook Color General] rant:
I currently have 2 NC's: 1 is rooted running 2.1 and the other is running 2.2 Nookie Froyo. 2.2 NF is significantly faster than 2.1, scrolling is so much smoother, apps are snappier. I have a Galaxy Tab on the way next week, I'm looking forward to seeing how Nookie Froyo compares, since most comparisons of the Tab vs. NC have been NC running 2.1. There obviously will still be hardware differences, but if performance is on-par when the NC is running 2.2 then the $150+ price difference is harder to justify.
[Nook Color General] waremaster:
I bought a Galaxy Tab even after having rooted my NookColor. The reason I bought the Tab was because I wanted the full Android experience on my Tablet device. I wanted the Bluetooth and GPS capabilities. I also wanted the ability to do video chatting and so forth. Those are things the NookColor will not be able to do. If anything the NookColor made me want the Galaxy Tab even more because it gave me a taste of what a tablet device would be like.

After using both devices for about a week I can tell you the Galaxy Tab is worth what you pay for it. The Tab is definitely a more refined tablet as it should be since it was designed to be a tablet first and an eReader second whereas the NookColor was not designed to be a Tablet at all. I like the fact that the Tab is connected all the time on 3G whereas on the NookColor I have to use my Droid Incredible to get it online when I am away from a hotspot. That is not really a big deal but it is a bit of an inconvenience.

I am still in my return policy window on the NookColor but I will not be returning it. The NookColor is still one hell of a device in its rooted state.
[Nook Color General] tech_head:
The Tab is fine for some people.

I wouldn’t buy a tab. I have a DroidX and don’t want all the excess baggage the Tab has. I don’t want cameras. I have a DSLR and a camera on my phone. I don’t want video chat. I don‘t need or want to pay $30 to have 3G. I don’t need a GPS, etc....

I have an android phone. The build quality on my nook is fine.

If the Tab were $350 I would consider it. $499 at Costco is still too much.

The Rooted Nook does plenty and it depends on what you want. Neither is superior. They are different and for different people.
[Nook Color General] rjoudrey:
I think it's a bit strange to compare two devices when one cost 1/2 of the other. Like comparing a Sonata to a 330i!

The fact is, with the NC you get a lot more than your paying for. A great screen (IPS with better density than the iPad), very good hardware integration (faster than my Droid X running 2.2), an addictive form factor and a good eReader that is hard to duplicate with software alone.

With the Tab you get what you are paying for maybe a little less. If boils down to who you want to do the work and what you REALLY NEED in a tab.

I am confident that when the playing field is equal, i.e., same operating system on both, the NC will cream the Tab.
[Nook Color General] waremaster:
But with a level playing field the NookColor is still at a disadvantage. No way it's going to "cream" the Tab. Sorry to burst that bubble. I own both so I am not being a fanboy of either.
[Nook Color General] madsquabbles:
completely agree. i had the tab but took it back since all those shiny new tablets are coming out.

you do get what you pay for with the galaxy tab, but with the nc you get more than you paid for if you root it. it'll never be as good as the tab, but at $250 less should you really care?
[Nook Color General] dkelley:
funny how this thread stopped about when the NC became the first 7" tablet to run HONEYCOMB preview really well (or at all).

there are plenty of valid comparison videos out there showing that performance is almost identical between the NC and the tab if you run a full proper version of android on the NC instead of the limited modified version B&N sell it with.

and again, you can't now and may never be able to run honeycomb on the tab.

and I personally have plenty of experience with the tab and find it really annoying in many ways - charging concept is very flawed (only charges fast with ac adapter which can't be used while usb is connected. usb charging works but only while tab is turned off???? it slowly drains while usb is connected if powered on which makes it impossible to keep the tab running without eventually having to disconnect it from your pc if you, like me, tether your device often for work purposes.

tab has lots of software compatibility issues I've come across - a surprising number of games dont' work on it which may be a samsung-modified-froyo thing, who knows.

doesn't seem easy (or maybe not even truly possible) to add custom roms to the tab - although rooting is easy enough. recovery is somewhat unstable on it from my personal experience. definitely more of a closed architecture than many other android devices.

I work with android device (and apple devices and others) in my job and am a software developer so have at least enough knowledge to be somewhat accurate in my findings, although of course everyone's experiences will be different.

I personally dislike the tab's physical design, but it is a very good tablet if you can work around the powering design flaw. mine runs out of battery often due to the silly charging design.

the NC performs pretty much identically based on all benchmarks I've seen as long as you're running a recent froyo build or honeycomb for it. also gingerbread just came out for it (CM7!). so it's now quite a bit ahead of the galaxy tab in operating system capabilities.

one thing that speeds up the tab is toasting it's galaxy launcher. I'm not a fan. install adw ex and modify it's settings to increase the nubmer of icons on the screen (and in the app drawer) for it to really be super fast and use real estate as much as possible. adw ex is the best launcher for android tablets right now unless you can run honeycomb. and the only way to run honeycomb is to buy a nook color :-)
[Nook Color General] james robinson:
+1 on the comparison

Sent from James' HTC Evo 4G
[Nook Color General] dstrauss:
Make that +2 now. I am thoroughly amazed at how powerful the NC is with Android 2.2 full install (skip the BN stuff altogether). It is not an iPad (I know, I have one) but to me it is vastly superior to the Tab from build quality all the way through performance. In fact, if you take Android 3.0 out of the equation, I like the build of the NC better than the Xoom. As fast as development has moved on Android 3 for NC, I can see moving up to it within the next 30 days. I realize it is not a dual core speed demon, but all in all it is better than all but the Xoom in the Android relm, and at $249 retail (got mine for $199 at the recent firesale), I feel it is pointing the direction Android really needs to go to compete against the iPad - highly sophisticated, low cost alternatives.
[Nook Color General] Mikroft:
I actually went the opposite. I went from a Nook Color to the Galaxy Tab. Performance wise. I find the Galaxy Tab faster overall for things even before overclocking. I'm using a custom ROM of course. Build quality I think they are pretty close. The tab has pretty high quality plastics with no creaking or flex that I can see. Yes it's more expensive but I wanted capacitive keys and built in GPS with working BT. Which aren't available on the Nook yet. Also CM7 is available on the Tab as well. Although I'm quiet content with Froyo for the time being.
[Nook Color General] livestrong2012:
I completely agree. The NC has tons of potential!! especially once HC is stable on it. I was running my NC at 1.1 GHz on Honeycomb no sweat. the only problem i had was i couldn't mount my sd card. making me go back to autonooter. i still love my NC thoug, and will def be changing to 3.0 as soon as the sd mount issue is fixed. anyone know if this has been done in 3.0 Honeycomb V4 version 2?!