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[Droid Eris Android Development] Conap:
I actually did see an Android washing machine in a magazine the other day. I think it even said it would text you when it was done. It was in with an article on the Galaxy tablet i think.

Edit: Here's a link lol http://elitechoice.org/2010/01/08/c...nveils-android-washing-machine-and-microwave/
[Droid Eris Android Development] ILikeBubbles:
niiiiiiiiiiice!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] kerfex:
here is another good one

Yes I think you are correct. The best example f this is, Apple. They follow lots of the Internet standards. But lets take a look at OSX, hummmmmm trumpeted by Apple as being the best OS, cutting edge yada, yada, yada. But it is really just BSD, written back in the late 60's early 70's. Then they ripped off Xerox park, as did MS; and Adobe and put it out as there own and new after getting patents on everything. But Apple has always been about the hardware. look at there iPod chargers. It's just USB with their own proprietary end that goes into there gadget. The do this so you will be forced to buy Apple only crap or if it is a third part the are charging them to use that physical connection that is really just a mutated USB connector.

You see American philosophy of manufacturing and " Free market " is so that companies will always have proprietary crap so the can nickle and dime the crap out of there customers. Its is so interlocked into our society and business practices and the UL broads usually go with the money being thrown at them. The UN is not gonna throw any money the UL boars way. Yeeee haaa for the Non- Free free market!

This kind of practice also has to do with why you can not get Flash on Apple phones or Ipads. Adobe and Appple have been battling since the 70's.

You see the whole entire Apple interface, what do they call is Cocco or some **** is actually PDF format. Which is really stuff XeroX park labs invented back in the 70's but did not patten. Then they made the mistake of showing it to Gates and Jobs. Gates did what he did and came up with there own protcals for writing the interface on your screen and Wallla Windows was born.

But Jobs and Wozniak really liked the " Clean " look of the Xerox stuff. Even though at the time it was just Grey scale. They "helped" Xerox and there developers develop it more. Then some of those developers left and Founded Adobe, and here we are.

Adobe PDF format ripped off, mutated patented and claimed to be " Apples invention. It has just enough slight differences that Apples holds a patent on it and Adobe has the one for PDF. They are essentially the same protocol and mechanisms doing the rendering in a compact efficient way. I could go on and on... but this post is too long. And now I have gone way off topic and I apologize. I have diarrhea of the brain.

Lets get back to what is real. YEA For KAOS!
[Droid Eris Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
lol, I've been seriously considering installing Slax on my SD card. Just so I can claim that I can boot a computer from my phone :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] Macrodroid:
I wonder how long before kaos rips out a new rom for those? Lol....
[Droid Eris Android Development] spm139:
laptops

I am already running a Google Chrome CR-48 notebook, and it is pretty sweet!....I can only imagine what a Google desktop would be like!

and since I haven't said this yet (in this thread)....KAOS you rock! Appreciate everything you have done for us!....

...wondering when Kaos Honeycomb will be available!:D
[Droid Eris Android Development] rougegoat:
It probably wouldn't be very good. Google's strength is mobility and web based services. A full desktop OS couldn't draw on that, though a netbook one could.
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
they are making a web based os that boots up in about 15 seconds and based off of just internet and web apps, no desktop, no programs
[Droid Eris Android Development] Fodizzle1978:
Nice!!!

Message sent by Kaos powered device
[Droid Eris Android Development] spm139:
Yes they are, I was lucky enough to get a Google issues pilot laptop. It is fast, boots up super quick, syncs with all my pc's running chrome, and is just plan awesome. The only thing I would like to see is some either local or internet based storage for downloads.

Would LOVE to see what Kaso could do with my notebook!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Densefire:
Android for netbooks, laptops, desktops, supercomputers, home appliances I dont care as long as it's Kaos branded :cool:
[Droid Eris Android Development] McFluffnStuff:
Actually, you can download stuff on a Cr-48. The only downside is that the thing only comes with a 16GB SSD so you can't store much. That, and the fact that the file manager is a bit...messy...are disappointing. Luckily, the device is constantly getting updated, so we should get these problems fixed eventually.
[Droid Eris Android Development] iggypop123:
Maybe a rooted eris vs a stock incredible can compete but that's about it. Im sure the battery life battle is alot closer to the eris winning.
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
exactly, and only for UI stuff, not apps, this is due to crappy sense which drops battery and performance
[Droid Eris Android Development] spm139:
I know you can download and agree that the file manager is messy. So far I have only been able to open items that are browser friendly. But I love the concept, and cannot wait to see how it evolves!...just like a Kaos Rom

Cannot wait for v9 from the tidbits that Kaos has fed us. Hoping that is the version that will allow me to run GB.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rougegoat:
reliance on web apps is great for a netbook, but sucks if you're trying to do actual work on it. Sure, you can do word processing and things you'll need to do on the go, but try editing a movie on it. Try using local media when all of your programs are web based(sounds like an overstatement, but some web app based OS's have done just that).

Chrome OS will be great for a netbook, assuming you have a server set up with all your needed files, don't do actual work on it, and you're ok with all the limitations it has. I'm actually looking forward to that. But it will be pure crap for a desktop to run for all the reasons that make it awesome for a netbook.
[Droid Eris Android Development] mindnumbinglyfun:
really?

you all are about to make a golden kaos idle and start the first church of kaos arent you..
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mercys Fallen:
Why not? He brings dead things back to life.

Why.....?

Because..... Kaos is better than sense. duh!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] stanlalee:
all of this kind of off topic but I have been able to play with my eris and stock verizon facinate (on 2.1) as well as sprint evo (also 2.1) side by side on numerous occasions. I am well aware their hardware is superior and computing ability is superior. that did not change the fact after swapping phones for 20 minutes the EVO owner (who's not particularly into cell phones like we obviously are) concluded "its basically the same phone just smaller". she bought the evo for the size (easier texting on the same but big keyboard). I reject the EVO and Droid X on size (the incredible and droid/2 the perfect compromises IMO). I didn't notice anything blazingly fast and the browser was EXACTLY the same speed as my Eris. with the facinate I didn't go thru opening applications to see how fast it was EXCEPT the browser which I loaded up no less than 10 identicle sites to both phones and the eris was FASTER every single time, both on the same 3g network. all I really concluded with the facinate was nice live wallpapers and all around purty. hell it was so pretty I forgot all about function lol.

In short I havent really witnessed the speed 1ghz processors and architeture are suppose to bring to the table in casual toying with higher end phones but I guess I havent played enough. Everytime I play we these phones they convince me to keep the eris a little longer. the Kaos Gingerbread helps with the one thing the eris is noticeably slower at: downloading speeds. once the camera is working I'll switch over.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jrozga:
yes but think cloud
[Droid Eris Android Development] jrozga:
Hallelujah!!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] labnjab:
Yes once the camera is fixed im gingerbread bound
[Droid Eris Android Development] SicNside:
That's about how I feel, soon as its stable enough ill be gingerbread and also have a sense rom on the side like always.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rougegoat:
Cloud is pointless buzz in regards to normal desktop usage. If it's something you actually need to work with, you need it local. If it's something that you need all the time access to, then you don't ever want to put it in the cloud("I was gonna work on that paper, but I don't have internet here, so guess I'll not do that").

Not that the Cloud doesn't have it's place. It's just it's place is more of a backup or optional extras than primary(which is why it's awesome for netbooks but sucky for desktops). Hell, any good network admin will be using non-local backup in addition to local storage&backup. I'm just not a fan of it, mainly for the same reason I prefer owning the CD||DVD||game disc to owning the digital copy.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ForwardTwo:
Cloud Integration

For right now, I agree on what 'The Cloud' is; it's not very useful for everyone. You shouldn't rely on just the cloud for now, because networks aren't everywhere.

However, I think Google is using Chrome OS as a sort of 'alpha' stage in their plans. You have to realize that Google is now very VERY involved in the mobile market and has a lot of power.

First, let me point out what the ultimate goal of the cloud computing theorem is:

A Network based series of workstations

, that possess little processing computer individually; but as a

network they are able to share all processing power and memory allocation.

The end goal is allowing computers to reach

hundred-core processors

simply because they are connected to a network, and to

allow information to pass seamlessly through this processing network.

​

Now let's look at Verizon. Verizon is the second largest cellular carrier in the USA and also has the largest network blanket of any other carrier. Currently, there is a 30 USD a month unlimited plan for network usage, and that price WILL eventually drop; be it in a couple of years.

Let's say it drops down to as low as 15 USD a month for a 4G unlimited data plan in 4 years. 4G LTE can be upgraded to reach full 4G data rates at 100Mb/s streams.

Now let's take our puny little phones, each one with a stock 528 MHz processor and connect them to a cloud network that runs at 100Mb/s transfer rates.

Suddenly, every Android device in the USA on Verizon's upgraded 4G LTE network is running from single core to quad core processors; you now have as many as 50 million android devices with varying amounts of cores and processing speeds connected together.

Let's assume that in 4 years the standard for a smart phone will be a dual core processor. If 50 million people of the 94.1 million user base of today had a dual core processor,

that would mean that effectively and theoretically speaking, each phone would have a 2.5 × 10^15 core processing unit.

Theoretically of course, you'd have to bring into account how processing power would be allocated and how even transfer rates would be.

Now you see where Google wants to push it's platform. Having a supercomputer information network, where all of your information (contacts, applications, etc) are immediately available for any device you own from your own device's signature.

Suddenly, IT Managers no longer need a workstation because they can debug from a cellular device on a home made

Verizon interlink

, sort of like the wireless hot spot app we have now, except all phones connected to this hot spot only share power between themselves; allowing much more efficient and closed source computing power.

Cloud integration is extremely exciting, there is no doubt about it. Once Google hits the holy grail with this, it will be beautiful. It just is going to take a lot of time. Chrome OS is a test of how well a network based OS would work, not how network based hardware would work. :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] mech_egr:
Other people using your phone's processor ...anyone see a "block your processor from cloud/save battery " app coming? :-p
[Droid Eris Android Development] ForwardTwo:
Hehe I can see this happening, but then you have to remember, you'll switch back to dual core processing then, so if you aren't using your smart-phone as a computer at the time, it wouldn't matter. :)

Plus, with the hot spot sharing feature, you'd be blocking your processor from the cloud, and only sharing it with your friends for something like a cell phone LAN party. ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
when did this become a cloud forum lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] ryan49er:
+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000... 90% of this forum is about everything but kgb, can hardly stand to look at it any more. If its not about kgb talk about it elsewhere. I mean the charger ramblings for example, give me a break.
[Droid Eris Android Development] phydo:
I agree Ryan.
[Droid Eris Android Development] labnjab:
+1
[Droid Eris Android Development] obermayerm:
+1

Kaos Froyo Eris using XDA App
[Droid Eris Android Development] api1996:
+1
[Droid Eris Android Development] rougegoat:
Anyone else see why this is hilarious?

Besides, half the reason we have(at least, why I have) random discussions on here is to make sure it's been updated recently enough to stick to the main page. That, and killing time while we await the next update.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mercys Fallen:
+1 you silly purple people. And it's funny.

Community is built on a single common, poinT but maintained by expansion.

Why.....?

Because..... Kaos is better than sense. duh!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
I completely agree, I love that this is a community not just a glorified tutorial.

lol, every time I see your signature I think "true, but that has nothing to do with what you just said..."
[Droid Eris Android Development] labnjab:
I take back my previous +1. This comment makes a lot of sense.
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
-2 to make up for the plus one lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] labnjab:
Lol :-)
[Droid Eris Android Development] BeinDroid:


This made my day. Loved it. Awesome post.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rougegoat:
You're right in a bunch of ways. In the future, the cloud could be awesome. For expanding the memory of a mobile device(phone, tablet, laptop), it's awesome now(where decent network speeds and availability), and will become much better down the line. But I was discussing a "right now" viewpoint, in which the cloud(however potentially amazing it is) is not the great thing people keep making it out to be. I don't think that it will always be this way(there was a time when phones were not a viable choice on communication).

(discussions are good to have, even if you end up not changing your view. It's good to see the other side).
[Droid Eris Android Development] Mercys Fallen:
Oh it does in it's own strange fashion.... it's like a haiku but better.

Why.....?

Because..... Kaos is better than sense. duh!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] Caitto:
Goodbye eris

Well my eris had a good run with the kaos roms but I used verizons trade in ($132) and bought a refurbished droid x for $99. So just wanted to say Ty to kaos for all his hard work over this time.
[Droid Eris Android Development] CaliTilt:
Seqnt from my Eris using XDA App
[Droid Eris Android Development] andrewzpsu:
Tell me more about this trade in stuff?...

I think I'm going to wait for the HTC Thunderbolt... but still - trade in sounds nifty.
[Droid Eris Android Development] dabomb697:
Go here. https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
[Droid Eris Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
lol, I think the window's closed, just appraised for $32
[Droid Eris Android Development] TheDoctor1177:
Yeah same here. I guess I'll just wait for the Droid Bionic then.
[Droid Eris Android Development] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Ooh, check it, Thunderbolt presales starting
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
sucks about the trade in, i guess they dont want to have to buy them all back when it come time for upgrades
[Droid Eris Android Development] tombepa:
The Thunderbolt is going to be a beast. We have been doing a lot of training on it. Can't wait to see it in stock to play with.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rougegoat:
Just felt I should post this twitter exchange from Groundhog Day.

Danny_tighe: is a new version of kaosgingerbread anywhere in the near future? :D

PunkKaos: sure is! I just moved and can't find the box with my phones in it though. Once I find them, I've got a build ready to test.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tombepa:
You know what? This makes me happy. (So sayeth Droopy)
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
i like the fact that he needs an entire box for his phones lol

lookin forward to it
[Droid Eris Android Development] ILikeBubbles:
can NOT wait!!!! i've been checking Xda at least 15 times a day since he announced that he should have something soon!! KAOS you are a god!!! ty ty ty!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] labnjab:
Lol i agree
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
Last count there were around 30 of them :P

I found it last night finally, so we'll see soon :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] jaebond:
My hero! ! !
[Droid Eris Android Development] woofers02:
Not gonna lie, I'd probably contemplate dumping them all on the bed and rolling around in them if I were you.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tombepa:
Scrooge McCellphone?
[Droid Eris Android Development] lp4261:
YES!!!!

10 char
[Droid Eris Android Development] demmo86rt:
Or setting them up like dominoes.
[Droid Eris Android Development] kerfex:
Or just

Or just setting them up and looking at them, and drooling.......
[Droid Eris Android Development] labnjab:
lol +1 thats awesome kaos. So excited :-) take ur time were patient
[Droid Eris Android Development] ILikeBubbles:
lol +1 good idea!
[Droid Eris Android Development] SicNside:
+1 lol that's good
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
i want a cell phone vault thats full of millions of droids that i can dive into and text and root and.................
[Droid Eris Android Development] ivorycruncher:
A box of 30+ phones? Hmm, it would be interesting to link them together with distributed computing software, and see what kind of combined processing power you get. :p

Posted from my DL09 SuperClean Fascinate with Voodoo
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
mega giant transforming kaos phone, do it
[Droid Eris Android Development] Scott586:
This makes me sad :( I was hoping to trade up to the Thunderbolt when it became available. The previous Eris trade-in value of $132 would have helped a ton.
[Droid Eris Android Development] tombepa:
The HTC Rep came to our store with one when I was off. The other guys said it was SWEET!
[Droid Eris Android Development] slane35:
& that's exactly why they changed the trade in value. Frustrating for us, good business decision for them. Likely you can get much more than that somewhere else. As for me I'll be holding on to mine to use for whatever.

ShapeWriter'd in xda app from slane's eris running xtr.sense 4.6
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
yeah you can get around 100 on ebay or craigslist, also hold out for the bionic, thunderbolt is nice but bionic will have tegra dual core 1ghz processor and 4g.

never buy the first gen of the series like the eris, we all did and got stuck with the worst droid that was only redeemed by kaos, so hold out for a while for the really good phones to come out cause you know they will keep getting better
[Droid Eris Android Development] meanm50:
WDIHAE? Can't wait!
[Droid Eris Android Development] ILikeBubbles:
honestly i'm not really impressed with the Tegra2 although i think the bionic is one of the most attractive Moto phones that have been out in the past 2 years or so, but from what i've heard the only reason the tegra 2 is big for dual core is because they came out first. if i was going to hold out for a dual core i'd wait for the snapdragon but then again i'm partial... [http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htcs-first-dual-core-device-rumoured/]

HTC FTW!! ^^ i love you kaos!!!
[Droid Eris Android Development] playpolo4life:
True that. Its like the little droid that could.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jayzeroeee:
I see some people mentioning the trade in program, so I thought I'd share what I did. I discovered swappa.com from an article on Androinica. Swappa is a site specifically for Android users who want to sell and buy new phones. I was able to buy a Droid 2 for around $200 and then sell my Eris a couple days later for $100 thanks to Swappa. The best thing is I don't have to use my upgrade on Verizon, which would lock me into the new plans they have.
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
thanks, this is a great site where ill defiantly be buying my next phone
[Droid Eris Android Development] ILikeBubbles:
sounds good. i really REALLY like not having to use the upgrade. :D!
[Droid Eris Android Development] ianoob:
I'm waiting for this phone too, I think it will probably be called the Incredible 2/HD and treat the Thunderbolt like the original treated the Eris...
[Droid Eris Android Development] BOY_:
The thunderbolt got great reviews from the unofficial unboxing: http://androidcommunity.com/htc-thunderbolt-unofficially-unboxed-and-given-a-walk-through-20110131. The HTC scored faster than the bionic on speed tests but both phones look to be awesome.
[Droid Eris Android Development] theoemrys:
When is koas hitting rom manager
[Droid Eris Android Development] playpolo4life:
As soon as he does.
[Droid Eris Android Development] theoemrys:
Sorry I am just really excited and keep looking at the forum at work
[Droid Eris Android Development] killakrishook3r:
first bionic isnt fully done so it could get better but doubt that you can make it much better, its dual core so it physically has to be faster (get a pentium 3 against a dual core and tell me which is faster) second i probably wont get either as by the time upgrade comes ill have the better one near end of year, like how droid x beat all the other droids, and all your graphic says to me is that bionic has bigger battery, HDMI output, and a better screen and no FM

and the pure fact that thunderbolt or HTC incredible 2 has sense on the phone, even with a different home, i will not even think of owning one till its rooted and some good GB roms come out
[Droid Eris Android Development] rougegoat:
Last time I checked(admittedly a while ago), rom manager required the Clockwork recovery, which has been known to brick Droid Erises(Eris's? Erisii?). I wouldn't recommend touching that program if that requirement is still in place.

That being said, I seem to remember seeing Kaos post something about rom manager on twitter earlier this week(my gut says Tuesday). He's working on it.

But as with rom release dates, that's a "When it's ready" date.
[Droid Eris Android Development] demmo86rt:
I believe he's already on there but, yes, it does require clockwork recovery and, while I have heard that it has been improved, it still makes me nervous.
[Droid Eris Android Development] SicNside:
I think but not sure and can't (quote my self on this) but I think cw stores bad pages on the recovery which sooner or later bricks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] ILikeBubbles:
Sooner or later? I have clockwork and have been rooted for almost a month...... how long till im out of the danger zone???
[Droid Eris Android Development] labnjab:
Never used clockwork never will i can have any risk of bricking our phones. Kaos if u switch to clockwork is there a way we could download the rom thru recovery still?
[Droid Eris Android Development] punk.kaos:
You'll still be able to get them the same as you always have. And rom manager can be used without clockworkmod too.