yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Themes] cupko:
Will this work on CleanMagic 5.0.1 rom, or it has to be CM?
[Vibrant General] roguly:
Does it delete all caches? like dalvik...
[Droid X Themes and Apps] SirBrass:
I just got a nice set of synth-voice notification sounds and saw that in this collection were some interesting ones like android_startup.ogg and android_shutdown.ogg

Right now my phone uses the Droid.ogg sound for ANY system notification not customizable elsewhere.

My question is, how can I implement android_startup.ogg as the startup sound and android_shutdown as the power-off sound while leaving Droid.ogg as my notification sound for generic system notifications?
[Droid X Themes and Apps] mbh87:
Birdman did a write up for this and I believe its on alldroid.org so check there. I would link you but Im not at a computer right now.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] erebusting:
I was interested in getting a solar charging battery cover for my phone or something like that...

maybe something that doubles as a case or some sort...I know they make something like that for the iPhones and such, so I know it's possible but my search resulted in nothing of the like for the MT4G...
[myTouch 4G Accessories] nvmehaterz:
Most likely they just haven't made it for this phone yet since its still fairly new. I can't even find a tpu case yet. Just keep looking out for it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] verkion:
So, I decided to fix my G2 hinge which was a little on the loose side but didn't want to use magnets because it would affect the Compass. If you don't think magnets do affect the compass, i invite you to open up HTC or Google Navigation GPS app and wave a magnet around your phone and watch your direction change.

In any case, I looked for a teardown online in hopes that it would show the actual spring mechanism for the Z-Hinge...but all of them seemed to have skip that part. So...here's a photo of the ACTUAL MECHANISM responsible for the "snapping/springy" action of the phone. As you can imagine, assuming you can get to this point in terms of disassembly, tightening up the mechanism is SUPER EASY. All you have to do is take out the spring, stretch it, put it back in. I think the only way they could have made this mechanism smaller and more reliable is to have used a tiny hydraulic piston in place of the spring, but since I'm an EE and not a Mech Eng. well, what do I know!

<EDIT>

Link with instructions for taking apart your phone. You will need a T5 Screwdriver and a puny Phillips Screwdriver.

http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-z-tear-down

</EDIT>

Ok, without further ado:

Enjoy!

verkion

P.S. I can have the KB open, G2 upside down and shake it fairly vigorously before it will begin to close now! Definite improvement!
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddgarcia05:
Damn...

Assuming you could find a spring small enough to fit you could buy a spring with a higher tension. That's what I did with my Ruger LCP to help the feeding cycle.

You could have taken a couple dissemblely pics to help us get to that point.

Thanks for the info.
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
Might want to add this voids warranty. Lol. Secondly if you could add some insight as to how you actually managed to disasemble the phone to access the hinge. That would be great. Might actually try this myself. Big might. Lol.

[G2/HTC Vision]
[G2 and Desire Z General] verkion:
Tear down is here...

http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-z-tear-down

You only need to tear it down as far as PCB Removal to access the spring mechanism in the hinge (its the top side near the power button). BE SUPER DUPER careful with PLUGGING IN the micro-SD ribbon cable when you reassemble. One of the spring tension pins (its a flip up type ribbon cable clamp), broke off on me. I was like OMFG for about 2 minutes until I realized it was just the tension pin NOT an actual connection pin.

Oh yeah, and for anyone that hasn't figured this out already...WARRANTY = VOID!!! :-P Oh, and the normal CYA (cover your a$$ clauses) apply...I'm not responsible for any damage etc. etc. etc. that YOU might cause doing this fix/mod.

verkion
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
Thanks bro. :cool:

[G2/HTC Vision]
[G2 and Desire Z General] konoplya:
Excellent post, thanx
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
Thanks for finding a REAL cure! Magnets lol! morons... nice work though! I glad you found a fix for those how have (or imagine they have) a hinge problem. maybe this will shut folks up about this finally...
[G2 and Desire Z General] nivlac978:
Nice job man. Quite the set of balls you got there my friend. I may try this when my warranty expires.(and my hinge gets to a point where i can,t stand it.)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Now I havn't tried magnets on this phone (or any other).. but I do know that the magnetic strength of magnetic tape, such as was used in the other "fix" is not very strong at all, as it barely strong enough to work as the fix it was intended to do, for this reason I could believe that it had no effect on the compass.

However sure, if you use a proper magnet it will mess things up.

However, very nice job on this but I doubt many will want to void their warranty when they could just send it back under warranty and do it that way.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
You are correct about the warranty. Although there are a few stickers on the torx screws that say void... they won't refuse your phone and claim that your warranty is voided. Its bs. They just check for eextremely obvious things like water damage and physical damage. I was a cell tech forever... they hardly care about that crap like is its rooted or whatever. Just don't make it too obvious like a phone stuck in a boot loop with cyanogen logo flashing over and over, lol!

But it does depend on the tech... if he/she is an asshole and dont root their own phones or hack... they could reject it. personally, I think those are the type that have no buisness being a tech nor would understand that rooting a phone is going to cause any serious damage to it. unless you flash the wrong spl/hardboot but at that point... 90% likely it wont even boot into bootloader in which there's no way to tell what happened whether it was a custom flash or a bad board. those are instant replacements as long as there's no physical/liquid damage. well, sorry for hijacking the thread and my poor spelling. good work with the hinge, OP! those ribbons can be a pain to reseat!
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
I'm doing this tonight @ work. Thanks for being the guinea pig.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Crey23:
dude great find....but way toooooooooo deep for me....If my hinge continues to drive me insane, I'll just start calling tmo like crazy until they give me a anew phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ostinq:
Stretching the spring is a good temporary fix. The best real fix would be to find one the same size but with a higher spring tension. Good find none the less.
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkadesi:
So I HEARD something interesting today. TRY THIS....

1st: Turn Off Unlock sounds if you can.........

2nd. Put the G2 close to you face, open the screen (top) very SLOWLY.... when the screen is parallel to the keyboard (halfway) push it a little bit more and you will HEAR a CLICK..... im guessing its the spring... but my understanding is that if spring stays stationary (in one spot) and just twists..... there shouldn't be a click sound..... which means something is mis-aligned (maybe the hinge part that is connected to the spring)... my hinge came in good condition, still stays intact when I hold the phone upside down.

Those of you with loose hinge... I encourage you to try this....
[G2 and Desire Z General] Crey23:
Um .... click? misaligned? i think that if it twists, then it should be in good shape as it's doing what it ought to be doing.

Either way, my hinge sucks, and there is no click....
[G2 and Desire Z General] verkion:
I was just thinking about what the teardown again. Now that I really consider it, I don't think that I had to unplug all the cables, just unscrew the PCB. I think there is enough slack to carefully maneuver the hinge out..maybe. LOL. Where do you get replacement springs? I guess I should really have measured the length...maybe I still can from my photo and a couple reference points.
[G2 and Desire Z General] collins521:
Mine just started clicking when I open it..just started on Sunday and can't figure it out.
[G2 and Desire Z General] verkion:
Ignore the click...its not a "misalignment" of the spring or stars or whatever else. Look at the photo I posted, it doesn't matter if the spring twists. In fact, I'm pretty sure it does swivel and move in there. The back end of the spring is simply braced against the metal side. The other end against the actual "pivot" (2 pieces of very smartly cut plastic) is "centered" in place with a small pin jut like most other hinge/spring mechanisms.

Now if someone could tell me where to get a super strong spring...I'll be all over that! LOL. It was already really hard to get the spring back in after I stretched it but a mega strong one would be worth the hassle...

verkion
[G2 and Desire Z General] mayurolla:
Check McMaster Carr. They have a ton of things.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#springs/=a1qb2j
[G2 and Desire Z General] Crey23:
So just to be sure....the stretching of the spring worked for you....you actually got it to be tight?
[G2 and Desire Z General] QaeadarDAzeal:
Well, those springs I linked to a couple posts up arrived today, and they're too big. Damn shame, since the OD is only .06 larger than the other spring. Grr. Oh well. It was only $4.

My request for one of those springs that was available on smallparts.com for all of 2 minutes stands. I'll gladly pay $5. Please toss me a PM.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Crey23:
Dude you ever come to So Fla, I'll buy you beer after you fix my hinge
[G2 and Desire Z General] Sparacis:
I have extra springs from the post earlier the 35lb per square inch ones. Bought a pack of 10 have 8 left over. PM me if anyone wants one
[G2 and Desire Z General] BigDilly:
I need sum springs helppppp me out plzzz.

meXdroid Ghost Chilli
[G2 and Desire Z General] logicmd:
Actually, I really want to buy a tiny hydraulic piston :D to do it once for all, given that I'm a CS
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arlieth:
Goddamnit, since I'm a new user I can't post links in here. I had a link to another spring supplier at Lee Spring but the minimum order is ten springs. >_>
[G2 and Desire Z General] Appogee:
Wow this sounds like a project I might attempt. Is the final product worth the risk in your opinion?

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z General] premiumg:
Could you let me know about an extra spring? I sent you a PM.

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z General] YaKillaCJ:
I just got my g2 and so tempted to do this. I thought bout that the first time I even seen the g2 in person. Good to see im not the only 1. Thanx for the fix guys.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lord_Xovon:
I have never had a problem with the hinge.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
it's more of a point of personal preference. Some people like their hinge to be more firm.. or atleast firm enough to be able to use it while they're on their back.
[G2 and Desire Z General] potentdro:
Even though my G2 is on the loose side, Ive never felt it was a major issue.

Sure, sometimes when I pick up the phone in a certain way or handling it in a certain way it may be a little awkward, but it is very minor.

But, I do wish it was a little more firm. Judging from the the video, the G2 probably shouldve been the way it was in that video on released date.

At some point, I'll probably do this mod, though it does seem a little intimidating.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tooter1:
It is a little intimidating to take a G2 apart. I did it myself, cause I had to do a motherboard swap.

If you have ever taken apart a phone before, it shouldn't be a problem. Those prying tools do help, I just use my fingernails though.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ptesmoke:
lol are your fingernails made of adamantium?
[G2 and Desire Z General] tooter1:
Kinda, Wolverine taught me well...;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
please check your PM. I sent you one a while back.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
I've done it and my G2 is perfect now. Thanks for the images, those remembered me that I can do that :P

Anyway, it's not needed to buy anything.. and if you stretch the spring it'll return exactly as it was in some time, so it's a temporary fix...BUT... I've done it in a different way.

You can lower the space between the spring and the end of the mechanism putting a piece of plastic between them: I've compressed it and now my hinge works better than the HTC fixed one (compared my G2 to a new Desire Z and mine is definitely better).

Try it. :)

P.S.: DAMN, I forgot to take a photo of it!!

P.P.S.: I'll show you the mod using the photo posted on first post and my good ol' photoshop :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] kwazyazn21:
spring size?

I know people are saying put it in a shim but I'd still like to put in the actual spring. Anyone know where I can get the springs or if they have extras I can buy?
[G2 and Desire Z General] ACHILLES R32:
check out this thread for the springs the OP used in the videohttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1003310. Great tear down video and assembly videos.

Here is also a direct link to the website for the springs http://www.mcmaster.com/#9001t14/=bn80k2
[G2 and Desire Z General] kwazyazn21:
Thank you so much for the post. Just ordered the springs. Hopefully they'll be in this week and I'll post how they turn out
[G2 and Desire Z General] the-nj:
IS there anyone else in germany who wants to order these?

It is a pack of 3 so i only need one!

If so please pm me!

nick
[G2 and Desire Z General] kwazyazn21:
Just to let you know I would search around before ordering these springs.

The springs linked to my questions IS NOT the ideal springs in my opinion

www (dot) mcmaster (dot) com/#9001t14/=bn80k2

(I cant post links)

They are definitely not the most ideal springs to purchase. They work BUT you have to trim them maybe two loops. If you try jamming them in the plastic may break but I'm not sure. IDk how the other people did it but I didnt want to risk breaking the spring housing.

But aside from that these springs will work and they do a wonderful job. I'll post a video up shortly. Good luck people
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
essentially, that's what I said about the springs. I understand that the OP prefer his to be tighter than an adamantium chastity belt on the most beautiful woman in the world, but I decided to cut mine down to the same length as the stock spring to give it some leeway. Just don't use normal scissors and use one of those wirecutters that are usually found in multitools (gerber, leatherman, etc)
[G2 and Desire Z General] jashlock001:
Thanks

I did this fix...it helped the spring strength greatly. Probabley a 5 out of 10 in difficulty. Took me about 30 min. If your hinge is loose do this fix, u will love your phone even.more after the fix. Thnx for the instructions!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Becksman:
Has anyone found a good alternative to the springs mentioned by the OP? Preferredly shipping internationally for not too much costs.
[G2 and Desire Z General] the-nj:
hey,

could anyone help me out.

i would love to have this as my attempts are only temporary...

but i need the measurements in metric as im in germany.

anyone knows a good spring that i can order in germany?

nick
[G2 and Desire Z General] Becksman:
@Nick

To convert the units from imperial to metric system, simply use google. For example:

- If you want to convert inch into cm, simply enter: 0.12 inch in cm

- If you want to convert lbs into kg, it's the same: 31 lbs in kg

Easy as that.

There are some shops for compression springs in Germany, simply search google for "Druckfeder".

In case you find something working, let me know as I'm in Germany too.

WARNING regarding the shop mcmaster.com: I couldn't find any statement about international shipping costs on their website. As I assumed the final costs would be stated during the order process, I entered my details. Unfortunately, you won't get any summary during the order process. After entering my details I simply received an order confirmation (still not containing shipping costs). I immediately wrote them an e-mail and asked to cancel my order - hope they'll read it before they actually ship it internationally (for probably horrific charges).

Anyhow, I looked around on their website and noticed very similar springs, which have a little less strength (around 20 percent less). Could this be the ideal solution for people who don't like their springs TOO TIGHT? Here's the link:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#9002t14/=brcrpc

@mputtr: You stated that the original spring is somewhat shorter than the one from mcmaster. Could you maybe provide us with the exact length of it, so peaople could look for the ideal replacement spring?

Regards,

Becksman
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
Sure. The length is, i believe .375, but you can get that same spring and use a wire cutter to cut it to size w the stock spring (or 1 loop longer) and if it comes out at an odd angle, sand the tip abit and use small pliers (needlenose and such) to bend the tip inwards.

I used the one rated @ 25lb and it's more than enough to hold the mechanism even w the otterbox case upside down (lying on my back with the phone facing down).

Just be aware that the hinge is still plastic and you should never try to exert too much pressure to keep the hinge in place. I chose the 25lbs because the original is around 12lbs. So it held pretty well at that rate therefore i assumed if i doubled the rate it should be more than enough to hold it upside down.
[G2 and Desire Z General] MuFuko:
This is too complicated. Does anyone have a link for a compression spring for Germany? Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
what is complicated? finding the right spring or performing the operation?

the operation is pretty simple and straighforward. follow the video's action move by move and you'll be fine.

EDIT: oops, I thought this was the other thread. If you want it as simple as it gets go to this link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1003310

there's a video tutorial that shows everything from disassembly to assembly
[G2 and Desire Z General] MuFuko:
I meant to find the right spring. Here in Germany. Maybe someone has an address for me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
ah well, i believe the link i just posted to the other thread has someone who is buying springs in germany. check it out. it's one of the last links posted on the thread currently.
[G2 and Desire Z General] MuFuko:
Great! Found it. Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z General] ckl_88:
sorry posted in the wrong thread.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dustrho:
wrong thread
[G2 and Desire Z General] dib_uk:
Success

I have just followed the guide and found it rather easy. I took it easy (didn't rush) and spent about 30 mins doing it. No plastic pry tool but my finger nail did a good enough job. Overall it was rather easy.

I experimented with adding a shim but found it worked better when I stretched the spring.

Thanks for the guide, gave me the confidence to try it myself and I am glad I did.

Hinge is now strong enough to hold the KB tight to the screen when closed and hold it open when using it upside down on a rollercoaster.

Thanks again.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dustrho:
So you only stretched the spring and it's now a much tighter hinge? I may have to give this a try then.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
From what I have heard about stretching the spring, it will go back to normal eventually (anecdotal evidence says 1 month).

If you can, try for a 25lb spring rate of the same dimensions.
[G2 and Desire Z General] charliehustl415:
As much as I love my G2, the one thing my classic Sidekick nailed was the swivel screen; that thing was epic. Ahh the days of nostalgia...
[G2 and Desire Z General] dib_uk:
I added two shims, got a good strength out of the hinge but the spring had reached max compression. I agree the spring will probably get slack again in the next month or so, I'll post when it gets slack again. Now I have stripped it down once I know I can replace the spring next time I do it. Didn't want to order a spring and then discover I can't get inside the phone.

Holding it horizontal, with the screen facing up, when open, i can pick it up by the screen and there will be no movement in the hinge. I have to give it a good flick to get it to move

Holding it horizontal, with the screen facing up, when closed, i can pick it up by the screen and the body will drop away 2-3 mm's. it used to drop straight to the max amount.

the hinge is designed to be stronger holding it open than holding it closed which seems a bit backwards.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dustrho:
Anyone in the states have extra springs they'd be willing to part with? I'm very tempted to give this hack a try.
[G2 and Desire Z General] grganovich:
well, I am the one among you guys who also sufdfered from loose hinge...

After reading this topic, an idea occured... tried it, and it worked...

I took a small, jewlers phillips screwdriver, and bent it, if form of "L" shape.

I opened the hinge half way, so it is furthest from the keyboard, carefully wedged a pen cap between the keyboard part and the dislay part, so it won't open or close, and carefully unscrewed the two phillips screws, 1/4 by 1/4 of a turn.

After that, I lifted the spring cover, it won't go put all the way, but yust enough to be able to reach for the spring. I have taken the spring out by a small sewing needle, and streched it a bit, than I took a tiny drop of mechanics lube oil on a toothpick, and lubed the hinge cam.

After that, I took a bolt out of a electrical wire connector, small gage type, http******://w*w.smartmarine.co.nz/images/large/orange%20connectors.JPG

to serve as a spacer / shim, put it on the spring, and put everything back... Now, putting the spring back on was a pain, as it takes a bit of fiddleing to get the spring and the spacer back...

Closed the cover, put the screws back, and voila, no phone disassembl, and one heck of a stronger hinge!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] burtcom:
You completely removed the screws this way? Any difficulty getting them back in?
[G2 and Desire Z General] grganovich:
Yep, no problem.

Taking the screws out took approx 1 minute, putting them back on took 2 minutes...

You need one toothpick, (a pair of tweezers would be nice) and that L bent puny phillips screwdriver.

You just take the screw, place it vetrically over the "hole" hold the edge of the screw head with the toothpick, while turning it 1/4 by 1/4 with the screwdriver until the screw catches the threads, and then remove the toothpick and continue until the screws are nice and tight.

The only nerve wreck was getting the spring back in with shims / spacers, because I did it in the evening, so I had to use a flashlight - there goes one useful hand...

Well, it took me some 5 minutes to get it back in... Just to not use any excessive force coz you might damage the mechanism...

FYI, the eintre hinge mech is made of metal, not plasic... that side bar, that "connects" left and rihgt hinge -- metal...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Martin_F:
Thanks a lot. Now I can write in my bed without annoying everfalling display part in constant move.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Chillimonster:
UK Link for springs....

http://www.assocspring.co.uk/_compspr.asp?suffix=&db=comsprg&tab=compressionsprings&curpage=21

£2.36 plus carraige.
[G2 and Desire Z General] justPat:
hey guys...

i want to fix my hinge with a new spring but i can't find a shop in germany to buy a new one.

is there a shop in germany or other country that ships it to germany?
[G2 and Desire Z General] HunnyBearLewis:
Gonna definitely do this...once I grow a pair.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tooter1:
It's not that bad, I've done it twice now. Second time I didn't pull the motherboard completely out. Went a lot smoother for me to do it that way.

Didn't want to damage the label.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
could somebody tell me if this hinge fix also fixes this problem?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsiOBuDUXDs&feature=related

This is annoying, when touching the screen it "bounces"..