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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crz6662:
Terabytes ? or Gigabytes ? Your lucky they didn't send a signal to blow up your phone. Holy Crap !!! What the hell are you doing that you use "that" much data ? Even in GB, that's a hell of a lot of data. I've heard you use to much they shut you off, but maybe not. Evidently they didn't shut you off. Keep that up they may drop you as a customer.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theratdude64:
Jesus, people that severely abuse it are why it gets limited/capped for the rest of us. Even at GB not TB
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] neoobs:
... Either you mean Gigabytes or you sir are a liar. In order to get to 45 TB on the average T-Mo 3G speeds it would take about 7 years... I am going to say you meant Gigabytes or even gigabits
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
I used more than that over the last month. I used close to 100gb, but again I don't have high speed internet at home. Its not even offered. The closes we can get is satellite and their caps are even worse.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theratdude64:
Tethering is never stable enough for me to use as home line :( I get horrible data signal at home so I use almost zero data. I really hate having to pay for it and NEVER getting the speeds they say I should be.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jefiggle:
After my first throttle when I only got to 20gb cause I was just using torrents and stuff within the first 10 days of use I've quit that and used it just for my ps3, laptop and streaming netflix (everyday) I've only broken 1gb in 15days. im not gonna say im not upset with being throttled for my unlimited connection but I've come to terms with it... Tmobile wins, now that the alt apn is throttled.

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hiko36:
In response to everyone in response to me, I meant 4 terabytes not 45. So still an inordinate amount data. Also, in response to the guy saying the cap is from people like me, I'm not torrenting and I'm not downloading much beyond ROMS from here. This is all Netflix which is a feature ATTACHED to Windows Phone 7 handsets, so I don't really think my usage is anything outside the realm of possibility. Lastly, you can stop complaining because I'm getting ATT dsl next week to pull my strain off the network because I wasn't aware of how much data I was using. Not all of us are greedy, just unaware.

Edit: This is all assumption going off of what the rep told me. He said 4 terabytes. My usage is only at 4.5 gigabytes according to myaccount but I'm inclined to think they have me throttled for some reason or another.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crz6662:
How can you stream netflix for 15 days and only hit 1 GB ? I sir would love to know that one.

Tethered my G1 and watched videos for "2" days and went over 5 GB.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crz6662:
WHY in gods name go to AT&T ? Aren't their Data Caps even worse ? Never mind their service. You know your not using your phone on their 3G network, right ? Getting a new Phone ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hiko36:
lol... not for phone service. I love Tmo for my phone. I'm going to get ATT internet. I pissed Time Warner off a while ago so Att is about my only other option for Dallas as far as I know.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crz6662:
Didn't know they had internet service. I've never heard of it up here in Pittsburgh. Just be glad it's not comcast cable.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hiko36:
Hmm... odd. I just assumed Att was a national carrier as far as internet went. I was holding out on getting an actual ISP hookup in my Apt because in downtown Dallas I WAS able to pull 5 and sometimes 7 mb/s. Better than what Att is offering and all one bill.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
Hes getting DSL
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] adavis159:
looks like they are throttling at the network now instead of on the phone.

I put my sim in my old mytouch 3g and I get throttled speeds (50-60kbps) on 3g and 150kbps on edge
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hiko36:
Valiant effort, gents. Not to be a defeatist, but it seems they have us this time. Now if only we could get an inside man to deactivate all our throttles... :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Gwanatu:
Well crap then! We better watch our data usage, I don't want to be stuck throttled
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Levito:
I'm not saying I told you so but...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] smthkat789:
So that means tmob does read xda forums, how else would they know about the loopholes. Btw tmob this sucks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] adamdhall:
My experience with throttling...

I first noticed the throttling after watching Netflix for two nights. I hit the 5 GB cap and went looking for a way around. I was led to this thread where I found that by using the *#*#info#*#* I could get unthrottled speeds again. However, this only worked for another two days. I then utilized the trick again and it worked for two more days. After that and being at 15GBs of data usage and out of options, reduced to a mere .5mb/s I called T-mobile to register a complaint. They tossed me around the phones for a while. Finally I got to a nice representative who understood my argument of not wanting to pay an extra 15 dollars to get "true unlimited" data usage. I explained that I have been with T-mobile since 2005, and have been using my share of data since the beginning (running JAR servers, hosting web sites on .mobi accounts, etc.). Thus, I only thought it was wrong to suddenly drop me to almost nothing. I told her I understood that more smartphones were utilizing the network and that they wanted to keep it running quick and smooth, but, to punish the true "smart" users is a mistake. She set me up with free data tethering for 3 months, telling me to call back before the end of the months and they may be able to extend the freedom for the entirety of my contract. My take-away from this experience is that it is better to be patient, polite, and respectable, working your way through the channels, than give up on something you know is wrong. Keep fighting or we will be throttled for good! :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
Data tethering doesn't get you unlimited speed. I only allows you to tether and if she told you it did she didn't know what she was talking about!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] adamdhall:
I agree with what you say. I did talk to a technical support rep and he also said that the cap did not apply if you had this option on your plan. We will see, either way, I will not sit back and allow them to remove the unlimited speed unlimited usage connection. If it does not work this time I will call back and see about getting the mobile broadband 200 MB data plan added for free.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
They told my wife that if she add the tethering option to her plan she wouldn't get capped and sure enough she got capped. 90 percent of the customer support agents ether don't know what they are doing or are just trying to get you off the phone. The 200mb plan would be worse then you only get 200mb instead of 5gb.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] foss:
The only thing that you an do for the moment is call Tmobile support and complain to them strongly. I've been calling and being quite pissed every month I get this. I was refunded 25$ the first time I called but been told "sorry tough" each of the last times I've called.

I'm not under contract any longer. The best I can do is let them know how pissed I am about it. If enough people call they will consider doing something, but if you don't voice your displeasure they will have no reason to do anything.

Sorry, of course I can leave, which I'm willing to do. Right now along with my grandfathered plan and 10% off, it's the cheapest service. I know the other providers all cap and either throttle or charge for overage so I'd prefer to have them change the policy, or at least throttle us to something usable like 1MBps or even 512kbps but 60kbps is basically taking a big **** on all of us.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hiko36:
I think that is my biggest issue with the policy. 56 k is ridiculous. That's slower than EDGE. That's dialup... Are we living in Arkansas??
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Levito:
Sprint doesn't cap as long as you stay on 4g, I've been looking into this.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gilnino:
Let me know what you find out. This just isn't fair. We pay the same amount as before and was never throttled. Now tmo says we have and are paying for unlimited data plan but limited. I have been with tmo for over 8 years and never had a problem but now since they are getting bigger they are forgetting about its loyal customers. I can't even get them on the phone. Have to go into the store. I asked them and showed them I couldn't even play a you tube video. That's having no data plan at all and all they did was apologize over and over again. I'm fed up and thinking about leaving.I'm seriously pissed tmo

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gilnino:
You can't even email them anymore. I'm gonna raise a lot of hell on this wether my voice is heard it not. It will make me feel better lol

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jefiggle:
I don't stream the HD versions of anything... I watch netflix everyday.. I'm on like episode 230 of comedy central presents... and I've watched like 35 movies already and I've been tethering my ps3 to play blackops, demon's soul, and boarder lands..

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Gwanatu:
What is your data usage at?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] plumppp:
i wish there was a flashable zip for this..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
Not trying to offend anyone, however, someone of you are trying to replace your home internet service with your cell phones. While I agree a 5GB cap may be a tad small, the amount of data some of you are ringing up is ridiculous and are contributing to T-Mobile coming down on everyone. But the worst part that gets me is the sense of entitlement some of you have. You signed up for the plan knowing full well what it entailed. If you don't like it or agree with it then go to another service, pay extra for ATT and Verizon's plans and then some for every email when you go over or get unlimited 4G with Sprint (who by the way is starting to charge extra $10 for unilimited beginning next month). Just stop the *****ing. T-Mobile is one of the best companies in terms of customer service and openness, their own forums have open rooting discussions, does Verizon do that? Some of you just want your cake and eat it too. You want the cheapest rate but expect cable internet data on your phone. I don' mind circumventing the cap if you go over etc etc but not every month with 50GB of data, that's ridiculous.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gilnino:
The only problem is when I signed up there was no limit at all and I used about 6g per month. I was put on this plan without notice. Just got a text message one day telling me im getting throttled. If I paid for something for so long then have to pay the same price but with less service that just isn't fair at all. That's what we are talking about. If I signed up under the 5g plan I wouldn't complain but I signed the unlimited data plan and got limited

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gilnino:
So we are supposed to take this because tmo has such great service? They do I know cause ive been with them for 8 years but where will it end if we don't make a stand now. They can take away our gigs but they can't take away our freedom! (i know funny but just had to say it lol)

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
I've been with them for over 10 years, since the voice stream days. I agree that those that have been with them since unlimited times should have been grandfathered, however, I believe that was before the Android era but I could be wrong. In any event, my rant didn't apply to you or anyone with a reasonable amount of data, 6Gb even 10GB I can see on a cell phone but some numbers that have been thrown around here are just unfathomable. People can't expect to provide their household internet needs by way of their cell phone... and then ***** that T-Mo doesn't let them.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Gwanatu:
I've only been with T-Mobile for 5 years now and have only had positive experiences in the past. Honestly 5gb is very reasonable, especially if you compare it to the likes of AT&T with their horrible 2gb cap and overage charges. I do, however, think TMO could raise the cap to at least 2x EDGE speeds, because honestly it doesn't even make sense to use any data nowadays on 56k speeds. That's my only complaint here.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crz6662:
I agree with you to a point but I'm with t-mobile 6-7 years and went over the data limit once the whole time. To get throttled back to less than EDGE speeds is total bull****. It literally takes 1-2 minutes just to pull up an email, and that's tethered to the computer which is much faster than the G1. There was no data cap in 07' and now all of a sudden t-mo says it was always in place.

I just dropped Comcast which was $150 a month and am using the phone to surf. Currently about 3GB but have downloading a good bit, but watching usage closely.

Unlimited means unlimited, not throttled unlimited.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crz6662:
I still don't understand how you can be watching all that and not hit the limit within a day or 2. Netflix is one of the issues the cell companies and comcast is *****ing about, using up to much bandwidth.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jefiggle:
I'm not sure how or why my data usage hasn't been sucked dry, and as a matter of fact.. I checked my data usage today and it seems to be stuck at 1gig. And I know since the last time on checked on the 14th that I've watched all of season 5 family guy, american dad season 1-4 and watched a documentary about meth, super high me, super size me, bounty hunter, played blackops ffa/hcddm for like 5hrs, demon's soul for like 5hrs, boarderlands for like 5hrs, downloaded that friggin dungeon defenders game which was 600mbs and right now I'm tethered and watching deadliest catch.

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Kalandros:
I've done all this! And still seem throttled!

Please help! I just hit the limit on the 5GB with TMo and they sent me the text. Now when I do speed tests, I am getting no more than .05 MBps! I thought this whole thing was supposed to defeat that. Please help as .05 MBps is far less than pathetic.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] brian_v3ntura:
what phone are you using? and heres a tip.. just set your phone to 2g/edge only in settings. EDGE is almost 3x faster than throttled 3g plus you save battery life.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
You are missing the point here - does this really work????

To Kalandros - just to see if this maybe did not stick, go into Accounts and see what they show as usage in GB for you current billing cycle. if you are showing over 5 (unless you have passed through you billing cycle), it probably is not working.

I was at 1.3gb before I did this. Used the windows script - resulting ROM would not open, but the services/jar did) After making sure WiFi was definitely off, I downloaded a just under 1gb torrent (I do not normally do this on my MT4G - did it as a test - normally use WiFi), and my "Account" data usage still shows only the 1.3gb that I started with.

If yours (Kalandros) shows well under 5gb - I am going to assume this does not work.

I was not going to keep this implemented, as mine is a little buggy with it - but save it for a rainy day on the road to keep from bumping into the limit and getting throttled.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
Could it be the data plans you are on - the current 4G or one of the older data plans? Since yours is not apparently throttling you, what plan are YOU on?

And to you unlucky throttles - what plans are you on?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
Were you throttled already - it goes to your account and it would definitely follow you to other devices.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gilnino:
It just came to me that my wife maybe uses 500mb of data if she has a good month so I'm just tethering from her so I'm kool with that. One thing about some people saying its a phone and not a laptop so don't expect to have crazy data usage. If that's the case why are they making phones that are basically laptops and then expect you not to use it at its full pontential. That's just my rant and means nothing in this world of giving you less for the same price as before. That just doesn't sound right. Its like buying a beer and getting half of it cold then sipping on the rest luke warm when before for the same price you got the whole beer cold...that's just me but what do I know.

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] SuspectDevice:
Can anyone confirm that this method no longer works, ie., that they are throttling at network level for all APNs rendering services.jar edits as an ineffective workaround? Mine and others attempts now appear to be fruitless.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gilnino:
Apns are a no go now

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gaww:
I set this up in Windows and ran it. It created the files and re-zipped the ROM. The ROM could not be opened, BUT I moved the services.jar over and it may be working OK I downloaded a big file on the network, and my data number in "Account" did not budge.

I get a Google service close message, and any attempt to touch "Network" even with the phone info app bounces me off the network briefly.

One thought - there was a post elsewhere in XDA that suggested putting a dummy variable in the file to prevent problems with some processes.

It looks like most people are trying this after they have been throttled, along with APNs, etc. I think once the user account has tallied up the gigabytes - it is too late for that billing cycle, or is this supposed to block the throttling after the fact?

As I get close to my monthly billing cutoff - I may get brave and really push it to see what happens (this assumes that you get a clean slate in the new billing cycle.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] SuspectDevice:
Very helpful. I would be very curious to know the outcome if you decide to test your theory. Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] moneymike55:
I was also wondering if anyone can confirm if this method will still work, and if you have to edit the services.jar before or after being throttled? The alternate apn was working for the last two months after being throttled but after getting the text this week internet2 no longer works. So I finally decided to apply this mod after following the thread for a month and everything went right but unfortunately I am still being throttled. I am running cm #285 tho and sino8r said #50 didn't work well with the mod so that might be my problem if this is still working for anyone else.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hiko36:
To the individual that said we are trying to replace our home internet service with our phone, you are absolutely correct. I personally believe that if Tmo is offering this service, and offering tethering on top of that, AND I live in downtown Dallas where I can sometimes pull 7 mb/s which is faster than most landline services, what is the reasoning why I can't replace my home service? I admit my usage was a little extreme. I honestly have no idea how I used that much data. I agree that I am an extreme and I abused the system. What I AM saying, however, is that Tmo has been deceptive in how they marketed this service and underhanded in how they implemented the throttle. To honestly say that we are impacting the service and believe that is a farce. Yes it may suffer at times, but if they can't handle the usage now, why could they before? I may be in the minority but that's how I feel. Don't offer the ability if you can't back it up.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shadowofzeus:
Well I got my bill tonight when I got home (billing support is closed) and they are charging me 800 in data fee's ( I am on an unlimited plan). So I will definitely be talking to them tomorrow.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] moneymike55:
So does this mod still work or is throttling a done deal?

And that's crazy Zeus, are u with tmobile? Throttling and now charging for unlimited plans?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] JanetPanic:
I must admit I am conflicted on this. I tend to agree on the freedom to use the data plan any way we want. On the other hand the Terms and Conditions have very clearly stated that tethering is prohibited unless expressly allowed:

I have tethered on and off for years even though it was not expressly allowed (or even possible to get permission). I did, however, limit my tethering use as much as possible. I have historically racked up fairly large data usage for a month or two when on the road though.

That said since at least July there has been a soft cap in the T&C. This was a well published fact on the tech sites and would have been in the documents of any new prescriber.

So if you want to tether and can keep your home use below 5GB a month more power to you. If not however, you have been warned.

With all that said I would like the ability to purchase either an unthrottled data connection or the option to pay additional to continue unthrottled use. I personally also feel that if we are paying for the tethering option the cap should be increased commensurate with the added cost. I do not find t-mo's stance or plans unreasonable but would like more options.

If I get throttled regularly I will probably look to switch to Sprint. As of this moment it is not necessary for me though. Sprint's broadband plans are unlimited on 4G (with wording to allow termination for abuse in the T&C) with a 5G cap on 3G. Phone 3G data access is not limited as near as I can tell. Do note though that roaming data is limited to 300MB a month.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] moneymike55:
It is all in the fine print of the t&c that comes with the phone AFTER you sign the contract, but its nowhere on the actual contract and reps do not verbally disclose this little fact while you're signing up, especially if you renew over the phone like I unfortunately did. I think its funny because it was actually a t-mo tech that helped me set up the tethering connection for my old blackberry that was never capped, and then they sold me a phony unlimited android plan and now want to charge $15/mo extra to tether a year into my contract AND throttle me every month since Nov. There's really no point discussing whether its ethical, because obviously its not, but it is unfortunately legal and there's not much more we can do besides calling to complain until they offer a true unlimited plan, or switch to sprint 4g (which supposedly isn't much better than tmo 3g, but can't be much worse either), OR try to find another loophole if the one in this thread no longer works.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Babydollll:
I have both Sprint and T-mobile and at least where I am in Jersey City, Sprint's 3g is Much Much slower than T-mobile. On T-mobile I regularly get between 4.25 and 5 Mbps down and 1.3 up. On Sprint I get 1.3 Mbps UP. 800 kbps down. (this is Sprint 3g I'm talking about)

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] neoobs:
This is why you were mailed a copy of the T&C (or emailed if you signed up for that service) and you had your buyers remorse period. Should read that fine print.