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[Nexus S General] JustinDroid:
I don't really understand how taking away the SD card is taking away from the phone. Seriously, unless you truly feel the need to store MORE THAN 16GB of data on your device, there is no need to complain. Also, the music storage argument is even worse when there are so many cloud based apps available for you to just stream your library.

Also, you haven't yet held the phone physically in your hand yet, how do you know its ergonomics aren't correct for your palm and fits well pressed against your face? The curve of the phone seems like it would feel nice against your face because it's not flat.

Point is, like all new devices, it's best to hold, touch, taste, smell and use a device before you pass judgment, especially when it comes to aesthetics. :p
[Nexus S General] theimpaler747:
I have more than 16 gb ;)
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
People that complain about the lack of an SD card are just being lazy about managing their music :rolleyes:

You can hold an average of TWO THOUSAND songs on 8gb of memory.

If you say you need more than 2,000 songs then you should just manage your music with the rest of it on your computer and move it on your phone when you get the itch to hear that particular song.

Quit complaining over nothing and manage your music like the rest of us.
[Nexus S General] traspler:
There are a couple of things I wonder:

As the SGS hast BT 3.0 and an FM Radio, I now wonder: Are these thing's simply not enabled in the Nexus S or does it have a different chip which does not support these?

Are the 16GB really an on-board chip or an in-device SD card just like in the normal SGS?

Is all the glass Gorilla Glass (Screen & Camera hole)?

I wonder how true the "75% less glare" is...

And why did they not include a status LED???!!
[Nexus S General] zack_sparrow:
Finally I got a chance to but new phone intead n1

Sent from my Nexus One sing XDA App
[Nexus S General] Capt-CDD:
No... I don't need more than 16gig on the phone. I need more than 16gig on the removable SD storage that has been on every phone since the razor. The same removable storage that you can transfer from one device to another. And after all of the Pandora problems I am not interested in using a cloud for streaming music on the go.

I am not complaining as I don't own the device and would therefore have no right to complain. I am pointing out what I feel are reasons that would keep me from spending my money, not yours. In my case no SD makes the phone of no interest to me.

I don't press my phone against my face I hold it to ear or put it into my dock while playing music from my removable 16 gig+ SD card. I have not held a turd either but due to obvious known pit falls I feel I am qualified in saying I have no desire to do so. Sounds like you are sold though, so please feel free to do so. Perhaps you might even consider an Iphone.

Your point is moot as I am not passing judgment on a device I don't own. Just saying that I won't buy it for reasons of functional regression, and little gain in functionality, in my opinion. Opinions are, by the way, in addition to being something everyone has, the whole point of having a forum.
[Nexus S General] Capt-CDD:
Hey there Mr. Troll, I think the person you quoted is in agreement with you.

If it's all the same to you though I think I will buy what I want and manage my music as I please.

Perhaps reading could help you with your trolling although, I do feel there is a common thread between you and everyone's opinion....
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
I think your very confused as to what a troll actually is.

See, a person like you who has 9 of their 11 total posts whining that the Nexus S isnt good in order to stir up trouble is, by definition, a troll.

Me? I was telling the trolls to keep their mouths shut about the SD card feature and quit complaining. Your in a Nexus S forum for people who like the phone and don't want to hear constant complaints about features that don't matter to them.
[Nexus S General] theimpaler747:
Let's keep it friendly in here please.
[Nexus S General] dgovil:
I think it's more about the option to manage. I like to have all my music with me all the time, because I like to switch genres often. I have over 34k songs, and 2k is such a small part of that.

That said, if I can get a reliable cloud based system going, I would be very happy, though my battery life would die.
[Nexus S General] blix247:
So why did they do it?

I'm guessing they chose to do internal only storage to close a major attack vector for gaining root. Otherwise why do it? Maybe the memory is cheaper if its internal?
[Nexus S General] KWKSLVR:
It's all about options. No SD Card makes the device something I won't even consider. I'm a hunter. I have trail camera's all over my property. The beauty of my vibrant is being able to take the microSD cards in my camera's out of their SD adapters, copy data over to the phone then format those cards, reinsert and keep going. The alternative is drag a laptop into the woods....no thank you. On the one hand I could just buy more microSD cards. On the other, I could just ditch my SGS and buy a MyTouch 4G instead of a Nexus S and have these arcane features such as microSD and 720P.
[Nexus S General] derek4484:
Thanks for the info. What ticks me off is how Samsung uses proprietary BT firmware/stack. That's whats keeping the wii-mote from working on Galaxy S. I dont know why they dont just use the stock google bluetooth stack. Jerkwads!
[Nexus S General] Capt-CDD:
What if they announced a phone and everybody just yawned?
[Desire General] kookysan:
Folks.. Gingerbread is finally out!!

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-23-platform-and-updated-sdk.html

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html

:D
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I just posted that at the same time you did :P dont think I can delete my own posts though...
[Desire General] kookysan:
:D Cheers to both of us bro!
[Desire General] Eggcake:
And no custom ROM yet? COME ON GUYS!!!!

Just kiddin' ;)
[Desire General] alex5566:
YYes... an Oxygen rom based on Gingerbread..
[Desire General] Lothaen:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/

Update going out to Nexus One owners? :)
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Engadget fail...Twitter post from a Google dev

http://twitter.com/#!/retomeier/status/11830023140937728
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
With this said, has there been a zip released for manual update/poking around? Engadget said its rolling out, Reto Meier said it should be within the next few weeks.

I dont get it :(

If it is out, then all is well, people got the random predictions for the 6th correct.

Also seems strange to update the SDK and roll out the update on the same day. Or is that just me?
[Desire General] Lothaen:
Next few weeks sound decent enough.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
If it was out don't you think the OTA ZIP wold be about by now? Engadget are just fueling the fire to get hits
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
Exactly my point. They say its 'rolling out' with no screenshots/zips like there usually is for firmware updates. Ridiculous.
[Desire General] EddyOS:
Combined with the Twitter post from a Google dev saying they're talking out their arse I think we can safely say it's BS
[Desire General] whitekidney:
No, gingerbread isn't out.

The SDK is out, learn the diffrence..
[Desire General] tnfelipe:
Well... There is a Dump over at the N1 forum.
[Desire General] GANJDROID:
Have you actually had a look in the thread though? Both threads titled Gingerbread System Dump (or something similar to that) are utter BS. Theyre both SDK dumps, not the system.

Anyone else feeling deja vu? Very similar to the whole FroYo hype. And all other firmware update hypes for that matter.

Lets just wait. When an actual dump arrives, them we can get excited, but today is just a GB SDK update, and no actual system updates AFAIK.
[Desire General] tnfelipe:
Yeah, you're right. Up to the point I had read people were saying it "looked legit".

Nevermind.
[Streak 5 General] tchamander:
I bought the beta version to test froyo on streak to see if it was worth getting and to compare it to the galaxy tab and I find the streak is really nice and it probably will become my permanent phone now. I've decided to buy a new unlocked version that works with tmobile but i wanted to know if the beta version can still work with att and if there was any way around it....please help or give me any advices you can because i plan to give it to my brother now since he is like in love with the big screen...thanks
[Streak 5 General] cue_32:
AT&T beta version IMEIs are locked from AT&T and there's no ifs or buts about it.
[Streak 5 General] tchamander:
I see so should I just sell this one
[Streak 5 General] gordata:
Unless you want to use it on T-mobiles 2g service.
[Streak 5 General] lufc:
Not Android Development

Please Post in the Correct Forums

Moved to General.
[Desire General] Lothaen:
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html

Not Desire news but looks like Gingerbread cometh
[Fascinate General] J Shed:
I've searched, but couldn't find a clear answer. I'm rooted running JT's voodoo kernel (v4 I think) one of his ROMS, and the Matted Blue theme. Before I begin this process, I'm just curious if I need to disable voodoo/restore to stock before I apply the DJ05 update/voodoo5 (yes, I have the steps, and am competent enough to mod my phone).

I've got most of the requisite files, and was just going to do voodoo5 though the ROM manager when the base DJ05 update finished.

Thanks.
[Fascinate General] ryanf:
In my experience, it is alwaus a good idea to disable voodoo begorr changing rom or kernel. And have heard that some people could not get dj to take without disable_lagfix. Good luck
[Fascinate General] Benew0:
Dj05

Just my two cents and maybe it has to do with competence, lol, but I spent about 3 hrs yesterday removing voodoo to reinstall it because I didn't disable it initially when adding jt's clean .07 rom. Voodoo5 looked like it installed and it allowed me to use my bluetooth and a new theme I had just installed, but my haptic response wasn't there and I was getting a lot of FC's. I tried every basic fix I know and finally thought i got it only to get a quadrant score of 900.

tl;dr

I would uninstall any voodoo you have before you upgrade to DJ05
[Fascinate General] imnuts:
if you're going from an old voodoo to the newest voodoo, you will likely have problems if you don't disable it beforehand.
[Fascinate General] nmyeti:
Does this apply if you are only going from an older voodoo5 based kernel to a newer version of that same kernel?
[Fascinate General] J Shed:
Thanks guys. I disabled, and updated to DJ without a hitch (so far at least). Probably hit up Voodoo5 a little later tonight. Do need to find a DJ kernel so I can get my haptic back though...

nmyeti, please do not quote me on this, but in my searches I did see people mentioning they were upgrading between Voodoo5 kernals without disabling. I probably would, just in case.
[Fascinate General] ktez:
If you already have the dj05, can you install the voodoo 5 kernel over it with no problems?
[Fascinate General] ellisz:
If you loaded clean .7, you don't have a DJ05 kernel. Either load the voodoo5 or a DJ05 kernel(there are a few in rom manager) or load a Clean .3 - .5 - they have kernel built into them. Since you have your old DI01 kernel and DJ05, your haptic is broken.
[Fascinate General] nmyeti:
I loaded the 11/29 kernel for DJ05 when i first flashed clean .7. This kernel had some strange audio popping etc, so i went to a geeknic version and that kernel had the same issues. I finally decided to try JT's voodoo 12/1 and that resolved the issue. I've upgraded to 12/2 without problem and then yesterday updated to 12/3 and all seems well.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koningarjen:
Today gingerbeard was launched. My question is, is it possible for devs to combine the nu gingerbeard with Sense HD?

Kind regards
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shu8i:
no, as long as htc doesn't come up with 2.3 sense hd, there wont be any im afraid...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] koningarjen:
But isnt Sense just another launcher app? Wich could be easily instaleld?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shadiku:
No. It consists of loads of frameworks and libraries, hence why you don't see any Sense programs in CyanogenMod builds.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shu8i:
it's not just a launcher... there are many more applications,libs,etc. involved in the sense experience and until they are not ported to 2.3 there wont be any sense hd gingerbread... just like 2.2 couldn't be ported until htc made one ...
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
And it looks like the mic is finally there! :D

Good news for those hoping to see it in final builds.

--

Sent from my HTC Supersonic.

EDIT: The beta is once again open! People have reported getting emails with activations even though it claims to be closed. Sign up here!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] XxsydenxX:
Dont you have to pay a fee for swype or something?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
No, you have to sign up for the beta program while they're accepting applications.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] lamboh:
thanks...debating on should i install latest beta or a version i found on xda...o well...gonna see how the new swype beta works out for me...

honestly...i mainly just type not swype...but on the swype keyboard....
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] ldc2335:
I'm using the newest 2.10 version and it's sweet

Supersonicly swyped while on the the pot at your moms house.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] thedudejdog:
there is a new version out, and it doesn't have that box that pops up when you correct a word from your custom dictionary.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
I'm on 2.15.56.14870.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] ldc2335:
Sweet Searching Now

Edit: got it, its awesome

Supersonicly swyped while on the the pot at your moms house.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Samzebian:
thanks didn't realize an update was out, I've been running 2.10 for a while
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Dreddge:
Ditto. I just found this one myself and installed it. Its very nice.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] gatordon:
I'm running the 2.10 swype & it's the ish..very smooth buttons seems alil bigger & it comes with the mic

Swyped by Gator_don & his Evo
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] toastcfh:
NO ASKING FOR WAREZ.

a thread on the discussion of Swype is fine by me. but the second people start asking for warez we're going to have an issue. so lets keep it clean please.

thanx guys :)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] TheBiles:
Hey, guys. The beta is taking sign-ups again! Link in OP.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] ElAguila:
I got a notification email late last night and swype is taking beta testers for now. I was able to login and download the installer. So if you want to give this a try you need to sign up while the beta is open to tester.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] MrselfmadeX9:
i installed the new installer and 2.15 beta as soon as i got the email,and today its not letting me swype, itll js let me tap the characters in. reboot,then changed input method then changed bacc to swype, it works for a few minutes then the swype is disabled again.is it already expired??
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] adamfair:
Same thing here swype beta works for a few then not able to swype. Bug i'm guessing.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] thedudejdog:
this would be better at the swype forums I think. they only check xda for warez
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] thedudejdog:
but really if you are a beta tester then you are a forum member and can submit bugs. l
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] evolishesh:
I know, but it just stop working so many time.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] thedudejdog:
it stop working so many time? proper english much
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dougdascenzo:
I can confirm as well, I got the email for the beta. Nice to have swype again.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] evolishesh:
Yes Sir!!!:D
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] MadFlava:
I traded a few emails with one of the guys over at Swype and all Im going to say is if you havent signed up for the beta, do so. I think theyre going to be activating quite a few accounts.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] xhazyx:
Yea I got an email this week saying I was now a beta tester... nice to have the official swype
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dbantayjr:
Just got an email from swype saying they just activated my account for beta tester. Feels good man.

Swyped from my evo using XDA App.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Jimdog420:
metamorph them from myns thread works on beta FYI. adds a little more hotness to it.-giggety

Swyped from a galaxy far far away...
[Hero CDMA General] andythegreenguy:
So, Gingerbread has been released... when do we see a ROM for the CDMA Hero? ;)
[Hero CDMA General] il Duce:
OH HELL YEAH!

and here's a link:

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
Time to get a new phone, ha.
[Hero CDMA General] andythegreenguy:
Would it run on our phones?
[Hero CDMA General] brokentoaster24:
Hopefully one of our few remaining devs can get something going
[Hero CDMA General] Porkrinds:
I'm not much of a dev, but I'll be dabbling on trying to get it to at least compile. I mostly build stuff for my own personal use. I'm sure someone will beat me to the punch anyway since I work more than I would like to :)

Your best bet is either jaybob (he seems to be just a cyanogen builder) or aosp. I think besides the previous two I mentioned and nfinitefx45 there are no other real public ROM devs left for our phone.
[Hero CDMA General] awesomecomb:
Darchstar?
[Hero CDMA General] alexthearmo:
Nexus S and Gingerbread are both underwhelming to say the least. Color me disappointed. :(
[Hero CDMA General] Asadullah:
+1 I thought the ui was gonna be badass. Not much of a change I am kinda curious about the obb memory management. Cyanogen is saying no pony on his tweets??? Just a heads up they changed where the adb.exe is
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
3.0 is probably going to be the one that has more of a UI change, pretty sure it was at least semi-confirmed a while ago that 2.3 wouldn't be a drastic change.
[Hero CDMA General] Asadullah:
Yeah I read somewhere about one of the tablet makers saying that they weren't gonna release their tablet till honeycomb comes out because 2.3 isn't much of an upgrade. I just was hoping.

Here's a video I made of the gingerbread sdk. Remember I was tired.
[Hero CDMA General] cordell12:
Is MIA :eek:
[Hero CDMA General] stayclean:
To be fair though, .1 updates are never huge upgrades, just have back-updates and various new features that generally aren't massive (1.5 > 1.6, 2.0 > 2.1, 2.1 > 2.2, etc etc).The tablet remark makes sense, because if what's been said on various tech sites in the past is true, 3.0 will be made with tablets in mind, as opposed to 2.2/.3, which are not really optimized for tablets at all. Personally, I'm a bit excited to see what happens with NFC, as I am sort of into the idea of never carrying a credit card again. :D
[Hero CDMA General] ubnub82:
Does 2.3 have requirements? I heard that either 2.3 or 3.0 will but I think its gonna be 3.0 since its a .7 update instead of a .1 update.
[Hero CDMA General] Nanan00:
This isn't always the case but in general naming practice the code base for a X.1, X.2, X.3, X.N, series of a program are the same and the revision steps are bug fixes and maybe small upgrades. When a name changes from 1.X to 2.X that usually indicates a major revision to the base code such as a rewrite.

Such as, 1.5 to 1.6, minor step, few new goodies mostly bug fixes, 1.6 to 2.1, major jump tons of changes and bug fixes, 2.1 to 2.2, mostly bug fixes but also included major Dalvek VM upgrade, the step from 2.2.1 to 2.3 is mostly bug fixes and a few updates. The next major revision should be 3.0 and from what I have read and heard it will have a major focus on larger format applications beyond cell phones such as Tablets and Media devises such as Tv's and Google Tv.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
well the evo devs are already working on a rom for us. glad i bought an evo when i did. i don't think the hero can handle 2.3.
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
you from sterling heights, mi? i used to live in macomb county.
[Hero CDMA General] GeezyAF:
Off topic, but I live in Warren.
[Hero CDMA General] ubnub82:
Ya im from sterling heights
[Hero CDMA General] Cloned2:
That would be odd.

My phone seems to handle each update better than the last.
[Hero CDMA General] theimpaler747:
Yeah, the hero can probably run 2.3, Eris devs. already have an alpha out :D
[Hero CDMA General] Cloned2:
Good. I'm not updating until the Scorpion comes out. Ill take nothing less than a 1.5 ghz dual processor.
[Hero CDMA General] rockypr:
Life goes on, we all need a new phone LOL
[Hero CDMA General] Cloned2:
Mine works fantastic, probably in spite of that advertised belief you suggest.
[Hero CDMA General] theimpaler747:
Lol, yes, Epic is where I'll be in a week ;) :cool: :D
[Hero CDMA General] Cloned2:
I wouldn't do that if I were you!
[Hero CDMA General] Smalls1652:
I'm working on getting a copy compiled, but there is no doubt by the time I get it compiled (Time wise, I'm a busy guy blah blah blah) that somebody would have already released a copy.

Talking out my rear end. I don't have the proper software, nor do I plan on downloading it anytime soon. Hooray for Finals.
[Hero CDMA General] rickyq12:
LMAO...haha dude...that's pretty funny...MIA and the little smilie.
[Hero CDMA General] rickyq12:
I KNEW IT...same here dude, the more and more I play with my wife's EPIC...the more I want it. Awesome phone. :D
[Hero CDMA General] fixxxer2008:
so your leaving the hero huh? why not get a evo, much more development for the phone than the epic.
[Hero CDMA General] andythegreenguy:
Any specifics on why you think that?

IMHO - 2.3 does not have features that might need better hardware... Remember, they said the same thing about Froyo... but, I think my phone runs better on Froyo as compared to Eclair... I am comparing Eclair w/ sense and CM Froyo. But still...
[Hero CDMA General] AjaxBU:
So now all those 2.2 w/sense requests will be replaced by 2.3 w/sense requests :eek:
[Hero CDMA General] jasonlefever:
Oh gosh..let's not even go there! Lol.
[Hero CDMA General] igtheactt1:
No Aosp...
[Hero CDMA General] theimpaler747:
Why.......

I know man! :D

Better devs for now, but IMHO the Epic has better hardware all around :D
[Hero CDMA General] Cloned2:
What damn good is it going to do anyone having you over in the Evo or Epic forum? I'd rather see you in the playstation phone forum.. if we want to see anything good come out of that phone, for us and android, somebody has to keep all the rascals on task.
[Hero CDMA General] theimpaler747:
Lol, don't think I'll be getting that, sorry man ;) :D
[Hero CDMA General] BuddahWolf01:
FYI gingerbread usually cooks in the oven that is the developer section.

(unstable)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=864403
[Hero CDMA General] andythegreenguy:
Gingerbread being AOSP, right now... should be available in the next few hours: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/android-building/CRFyqBYEyKA/discussion. Woohooo!
[Hero CDMA General] :
Oh gosh, please no one tell add119.
[Hero CDMA General] halrulez:
Lol...... Hey if he wants his phone to turn in to my little pony, he has all the right.

Really though he needs to learn some manners.

Gingerbread... It's what heros crave!
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Nooooooooo!!!!!!! Anyone else with this problem or is it just my phone. It opens to the logo and sometimes Feint will start but after that its nothing but a black screen.
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
Mine works fine and installed to the sdcard.
[General Questions and Answers] flipdr0id:
Hi! I know it's possible, so can anyone create android 2.3 or 2.2.1 rom for ZTE Racer?

P.S: Right now its very popular device in RUSSIA)(Sorry for my bad english)