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[G Tablet General] hitekredneck:
I don't think I will ever regret buying this tablet! Viewsonic rocks, releasing the tnt source and they are even encouraging hacking and Modding of the device with XDA links on their site. Simply awesome attitude they have!
[G Tablet General] comhack:
Well I was a bit surprised at first considering how they first said they did not modify the Android kernel and therefore did not have to release the source. I think they are encouraging hacking because of two reason:

---A couple of companies stopped selling them because of the amount of returns.

---A few of us have tweeted screenshots, information about ROMS, and have been hassling them to release source, and generally annoying them.

It is in their best interest to look into what the great Devs at XDA are doing since their initial interface was complete garbage and they lost sales because of it.

Just my opinion
[G Tablet General] computerwiz_222:
I just sold my PanDigital Novel for the gTab. What an excellent trade-off. I'll never buy a PanDigital product again.
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
Shouldn't we also be getting the hardware source for the kernel? All the modules/libraries for the non-proprietary items?
[G Tablet General] rcgabriel:
It's all in there in that patch file. Including the drivers for touchscreen, battery, etc.
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
yeah - noticed my mistake! =)

thanks!
[G Tablet General] cjbailey75:
Roebeet I bought my girl the Cruz reader and i think its terrible but was right up my price range for her. I was going to take it back and get her a nook color due to it being able to root and make it more useable. I don't want to spend the extra 150 for the nook is there anything that can be done with this Cruz reader.

It is no comparisons to my gtab with tnt 3.1.2 or vegan. I have smoked any iPad user out here so far thanks for the hard work.
[G Tablet General] ruthienu:
Check out slatedroid forum. They have a rom that makes the cruz reader rock.
[G Tablet General] skeeterslint:
Shouldn't they have released the actaully kernel source and not a patch for this to be truly gpl compliant?I understood it as "source code" not "patch" that you have to apply to kernel source.I could be wrong and I am not complaining but I think they should be releasing a kernel source tar rather then a patch.
[G Tablet General] h3llphyre:
No, you only need to release your changes to the original source code. The referenced code is available from another source, so it's not really that big of a deal.
[G Tablet General] Ianmrr:
Hi

Apologies if this is in the wrong thread.

Within the git-patched.txt file there is several references to Ericsson F3307, does that mean that the Ericsson F3307 3G module might be usable for 3G connectivity now or in the future (would still need a sim slot somewhere)

Thanks

Ian
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] flipdr0id:
Hi! Can anyone port android 2.2 to zte racer?

Is anyone else with me for a ZTE Racer subforum? Can XDA do this for us if there is enough interest?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] giany_rap:
yeah..we definitely need a clean thread for zte link,racer or X850 with rom developement, general etc..
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadoxity:
Hey everyone,

I seem to have issues with the desire Z same as my g1

This is really pissing me off cause i bought the desire z with all its extra processing power and ram thinking it would fix it up... but it hasnt. so i could of saved money and stayed with the g1.

My problem is that text messaging slows right down to the point it just frustrates me.

You open a message and it takes a few seconds to load on the screen then you type and hit send, takes another 10secs for the message to update on screen and then send.

Hit back to go back to ur list of messages and then wait longer for it to load that.

Like what the hell? Surely something can be done to keep it running well?

It seems to be the same with the std messaging app, the HTC one and also handcent.

They all seem to start doing the same thing and being slow and annoying.

Why? I dont get it? why?

Even if i limit the messages to delete at 200 it still is slow and horrible.

So anyway i am really hoping that someone will offer me some salvation and help me get a phone that i can message from and not get annoyed.

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ante0:
How many messages do you have?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadoxity:
bout 3000 total
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blunted09:
thats definitely alot. isnt there an sms apk that allows you to batch the messages? I believe handcent has it. that would kind of zip them temporarily
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lennyuk:
Just use Handcent, never had any slowdowns
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CWolfCW:
I actually had the same issue at one point, ended up losing all my messages due to some weird glitch (probably too many messages).

Thought to myself, is there any reason to actually keep ALL the messages that far back? Probably not. Set hard limits on how many texts before it wipes older texts and never had an issue since.

I dislike Handcent solely due to advertisements. I'd rather keep my data plan limited to more useful things than ads. (Not that I don't support the devs, but I don't have unlimited or cheap data plan up here in Canada, heh.)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadoxity:
Dont know what you are meaning? But handcent lets it so it has a "click here to see older messages thing" Which i have enabled but has not changed anything.

I am using handcent and it is pissing me off. I try and send a message and hit send. if i push the power button before it comes up on screen (which takes about 10 seconds) then it wont send the message till i turn the phone on again and wait for it to display on the screen.

I dont get it.

I might try setting them all to delete at about 100 instead of 200? See if that makes a difference?

The htc messaging app is annoying cause when you click send it comes up with "please wait" on the screen and you cannot do anything till that finishes. I am going ot try the standard one to see if that happens or not.

Thanks for the suggestions. i will try removing old messages and i have set the limit to 150.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blunted09:
there is an option in handcent under the menu settings that allows u to specifically batch a certain amount of messages i think! im using chompsms now as i think its much faster. try that one out
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadoxity:
i tried to change it to 150 message limit, and nothing got deleted, then tried to use an app to delete some, then somehow all of my messages got wiped when messaging app crashed. so now i have none hahaha.

but it is running much quicker. I will try and keep the limit of messages down and see how it goes.

Thanks everyone
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ck_jun:
its the sense thats slowing it down so.

I had about 5000 smses, and faced exactly the same problem. cut down to 1500 and still had problems. Overclocked to 1400mhz and still got same problem.

Flashed phone to cm6 and now everything is smooth like butter. I restored all 5000 of my smses and got about 6000 plus in the phone now and no lag at all, stock or handcent.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
To be fair though, you've changed a whole lot of stuff, and not just Sense, going to Cyanogen. So do we really know Sense is the main culprit here ?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadoxity:
Thanks for that.

There is a couple of things i like about sense, but not a lot.

i dont like the interface, i like the dialer. and the icons. But yea.

I might give CM6 a try.

Thanks for the feedback
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dietotherhythm:
why the hell would anyone have 6000 text's?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robzonpl:
why the hell not?

for me deleting text messages is like deleting emails - you don't do that anymore, you archive stuff.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prinzhernan:
I know how you feel though. I love the Sense UI because it's such eye candy but when it comes to storing messages, once you get to the 3k+ mark it starts to be very sluggish. With C6.1 it's really fast but the interface is not as sweet but very functional. I kinda miss Sense even if it was hella clunky. I just might install that new Egyptian RUU to try it out again since the software version is higher.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadoxity:
Well it has been working much quicker with CM 6.1 but i miss the eye candy :(

But would much rather the whole overall speed than some prettyness. I will just wait for something new to come out :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dietotherhythm:
call me old fashioned but I like to keep my inbox everywhere nice and clean unless it's something I need. Then I save it to a 1.2mb floppy disk....lol
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FrenicX:
1.44mb? :P
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zukа:
I was reading an article over at Anandtech the other day that commented on SMS slowdown in android.

So I think your options are either deleting most of your messages or changing OS.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadoxity:
Someone and or google need to get their butt into gear and do some focus on the messaging subsystem :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JohnnyP.akaJP:
I have a 32b board. So I followed instructions. I got Rom manager, used it to install the clockwork recovery. Then install rom, chose cyannogen mod. It was all going great, until I hit the error. It kept rebooting, the green screen kept rebooting. Idk what to do, so help me!!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] kompheak:
Flashed correct recovery and 32b roms?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] JohnnyP.akaJP:
yes and yes. Rebooting on mytouch 3G green screen forever...
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] kompheak:
Try to flash ur previous rom. See if that works... do full wipe...
[Nexus One General] walie:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/google-maps-for-mobile-5-unveiled-adds-dynamic-map-drawing-and/
[Nexus One General] HighTech216:
Gotta love the glitches that we paid for!!
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Blame HTC. But they make phones made if steel and uranium and not plastic so it all evens out.
[Nexus One General] bigdog_nick:
That's stupid! I thought Google would have been more "picky" in regards to the hardware the "Development" phones would have...guess not!

Well, I don't really care about the full multitouch, as long as i can somehow get maps 5 on my phone later on. Maybe add a onscreen gesture control (like a d-pad)
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
Oh they can finally make use of the N1 trackpad for the rotation control.
[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
This is google and adnroid apps we're talking about.

Expect to see it's usefulness in Icee.
[Nexus One General] EdwardUong:
Trackball is a plus, I agree
[Nexus One General] ma2k5:
I noticed Desire HD/Z not on the list. Do these phones also seriously have the MT issue?
[Nexus One General] trinode:
ignore me...
[Nexus One General] GreenGuava:
The G2 is on the list, so by extension I don't see why the Desire Z wouldn't support it 100% as well. They're basically the same platform after all.
[Nexus One General] britoso:
If its just multi touch that the N1 is not 100% compatible with, thats fine, I can live with that. 99% compatible ;)
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
I don't understand this new version of Google maps.

Andy Rubin was saying that you can now use Google maps navigation while offline? :confused:
[Nexus One General] OJ in Compton:
It saves data on your most recent routes and often travelled routes I believe. This seems like it's a worthy update but I would appreciate it if I could just stick all of north america on my SD card like nokia's ovi maps. This is definitely better than no caching, provided the maps don't take up a whole lot of internal memory.
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
Wow :eek:

Pretty effin' amazing there Google...

Thanks for the reply OJ :)
[Nexus One General] zipredictive:
For me, the problem is the n1 gpu.... the only thing this phone misses...

I mean there's a lot f 3d in there.... Idk if n1 can handle it
[Nexus One General] chowlala:
It'll work for the N1. Trust me.

By hook or by crook.

XDA ftw!
[Nexus One General] K69:
Theres an app for the iphone where you can choose an area and download it to the phone.

Thats what we need. ;)

So the only data you need to download "on the road" for navigation is the route and traffic information.

Of course it also needs some sort of update feature for the offline data, in case something changed.
[Nexus One General] draugaz:
N1 has GPU which is plenty fast. In fact, microsoft currently bets it's whole WP7 platform on it.

And Gingerbread Platform Highlights say, that:
[Nexus One General] descendency:
That seems stupid not to at least go with the one in the Hummingbird CPU instead of Snapdragon. . . it's 4 times faster.
[Nexus One General] jm9843:
They don't as they're vector-based maps. The new Google Maps update looks really great.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
If it can't use 100% of the features I'm okay with that, as long as it's AVAILABLE on the Nexus 1. But as someone said, even if it's not, someone here will fix that. :)
[Nexus One General] Mactagonist:
I am sure someone here will figure out how to force it to cache exactly the areas we want it to. Then, say Hello Google Maps working on the subway at long last! :)
[Nexus One General] OJ in Compton:
In Andy Rubin's talk yesterday he mentioned downloading the map data of an entire state to your phone. Doesn't match what the previews online said (just recent and most used routes) but I guess we'll see when it comes out.
[Nexus One General] wrench115:
Why would you ever need a map of your most used routes? Hasn't made sense to me sinse I heard that.:confused:
[Nexus One General] :
It's vectors, you can probably hold maps of the entire world, vector based, and measure it in GBs.

Don't worry about internal memory and gmaps.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
But that would be a problem, wouldn't it? Even if we uninstalled every one of our apps we still don't have a GB of internal memory. Maps is already twice as big as my other large apps, other then Flash.
[Nexus One General] slipshft:
Think about it this way, since the maps are vector based they are smaller. A map that would have required GB of storage space will now take only MB to store.

So we can store more map in less space. Not that we need the whole map.
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
If you look at the results of Multitouch Vis Test, you'll see why multitouch rotation won't work right on the N1. If you put two fingers on the screen and spin them clockwise, sometimes the phone will think you're spinning them the other way. Better to disable that feature on the N1 than to put up with its misbehaviour.
[Nexus One General] gravufo:
and anyways someone wanting to save the whole map would find a way to get it done on his sdcard...
[Nexus One General] :
I think you misunderstand.

What I said was a functional map of the world (down to streets) would probably take a few gigabytes.

If you scale that down to local use, you could porbably max out a heavily populated metro area into a few megabytes, if that.
[Nexus One General] xyellx:
cuz Snapdragon sound cooler then hummingbird ist like Vista ;)
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
But a 90 degree rotation is still possible, IMO.
[Nexus One General] Mactagonist:
I would devote a couple GB of storage to maps if it ment I would almost never need data access to zoom down to street level anywhere in the world. Storage is dirt cheap.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
It will work sometimes, depending on where your fingers start. It's impossible to do it right consistently though which will just make the phone look bad.
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
It would be great if Google Maps 5 gives us the option to use it though.
[Nexus One General] :
If they're smart they just add a button overlay for devices that don't have the capable hardware.
[Nexus One General] lambasurm:
QFT!

but i'm not a heavy google maps user anyhow, so meh ;)
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
I think the N1 touchscreen is probably the reason why Google asked Samsung to make the Nexus S. Apps that require a lot of touchscreen interactions would be limited if Google was stuck with the N1. The new Google Maps is an example. Google probably resented HTC for choosing an inferior touchscreen.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
With Google's involment in the N1's design, they've got no one to blame but themselves for that design decision. But remember back then they still didn't want to support multitouch in the OS, maybe they assumed it wouldn't be an issue.
[Nexus One General] crater:
You wont need to. Vector graphics use math formulas to construct and scale up or down as much as necessary without needing new graphics, thus you never need to reload tiles. They could pretty much include everything needed in the app to construct any necessary graphics, and once you've loaded anything keep it cached forever because math is much much smaller than graphical tiles.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Them going to Samsung is proof in the pudding they got P'd off at HTC.

The 3g/Touchscreen issues played a big part in Googles customer service backlash and N1s bad rep.

Holding back multitouch was the last shred of courtesy between Google and Apple. Nothing related to hardware.
[Nexus One General] maxppp:
Conclusive video demonstrating the n1's failure to do proper touchscreen (and as a result not getting all the features in gmaps 5).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsSUqkh8pcI
[Nexus One General] arkavat:
N1 is not getting only one feature of Maps.. rotating 3D building view. All other features will be available.

People please stop sensationalizing and stop saying "missing features". It's just one feature. Not a big deal.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
I honestly thought we went through this phase way back at the beginning of the year (when that video was made, actually).

The N1 has a lackluster touch screen.

We know.

Get another phone, or get over it. By now this should be old news to everyone.
[Nexus One General] erikiksaz:
Wait, what the hell's the problem again? I never found what the original complaint was in this thread.

The new Google Maps is out. Just downloaded it from the market. It's lightening fast. I don't know what's missing, though. The speed alone makes it :eek:
[Nexus One General] gravufo:
what are you talking about? there is no new Maps on the market...
[Nexus One General] msavic6:
He probably got the maps 4.7.0 update. The update we are talking about is the 5.0 update which has vector maps and offline caching.
[Nexus One General] erikiksaz:
Hah, I stand corrected. How odd, I suppose rod's newest miui didn't have it preloaded. I guess the cable internet at home is just super fast tonight :p
[Nexus One General] blunden:
A hidden vector render mode was included as far back as 4.4.0 that could be accessed through the BrutMod menu in 4.4.0-brut16. That did not include 3D models though and in general was useless for anything other than playing around but it's always nice to see hints of what Google are working on. :)
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
not only that, but i'm sure there will be redundant ways to rotate the 3d view. they will not expect everyone to use 3 fingers every single time. just like zoom can use the icons, or double tap. redundancy will be there i'm sure.

i'm not gonna be too heartbroken that i cant use 3 fingers on my phone screen...as long as i can perform the same action, i will be happy.
[Nexus One General] :
The writing is on the wall, the S is gonna be turned into the next dev phone. In a few months you can expect developers to start incorporating proper multitouch into applications.

Anything with a cleartouch 2000 screen is going to be cumbersome to use because developers have new goalposts.
[Nexus One General] greenlime812:
Doesn't the N1's multitouch issue seem kind of like a software issue? It can still detect 360 degree rotations if you do them slow enough, download the MultiTouch Tester from the market and you'll see what I mean...
[Nexus One General] Mactagonist:
It is definitely a hardware issue. I dont have the links handy anymore but this was a hot topic a few months ago.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
I don't see what you mean. That app has a terrible time trying to track two points.
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Officially, the Clearpad2000 supports rotate, in practice however, it's pants :D
[Nexus One General] b1337:
Its not the app its the phone...like everyone has been saying...
[Nexus One General] norazi:
the n1 touchpanel sucks... it is definately the biggest limiting factor for future upgradeability along with the adreno200
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
Well yeah, that's my point.
[Nexus One General] stoli412:
As long as the map can use the compass to auto-rotate, I'll be happy. I don't care too much about being able to manually rotate. Can't see any reason why the auto-rotate feature wouldn't work on the N1, right?
[Nexus One General] HereAsWell:
That is exactly my opinion (and hope) as well.
[Nexus One General] M9x3mos:
I am not sure that the information given was accurate.

I find it very strange that the G2 would support it fully but not the MT4G?
[Nexus One General] supermamie:
On my side I don't really care of the 3D part, but the offline is needed.

let's hope the app will be available with feature deactivated and nothing like "sorry mario, your app is in another device" :(
[Nexus One General] cigar3tte:
I retired my N1 for a Vibrant because of internal storage space. If GMaps 5.0 uses internal storage of offline maps, N1 is screwed.
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
180 apps installed with Apps2Ext. Not really any more room for more for me at the moment, but if I also moved dalvik-cache, that's another 140M free, 165M total. So I could probably have just south of 400 apps installed on my N1 in that case.
[Nexus One General] AbsoluteDesignz:
I dont see why they can't add a little button a la Google Earth that allows for tilting and rotating etc.
[Nexus One General] mayurh:
guys is the htc desire(original) also affected by this screen problem?
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Yes, it has the same digitizer.
[Nexus One General] neoxz:
So, is it out yet?
[Nexus One General] prettyboy85712:
We'll let you figure that one out on your own.
[Nexus One General] neoxz:
I don't have it. Do you?
[Nexus One General] BiTXBoi:
we would if it was on the market ;)
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
That's kinda the point...
[Nexus One General] daeshawn:
Blah..I'm sure someone will figure out how to make it work
[Nexus One General] PrawnPoBoy:
When the new Maps was demoed by Schmidt he said it would be available in the coming days... it's been almost 2 weeks hasn't it? Their rough timelines are pretty hard to follow.
[Nexus One General] :
Maps 5.0 just downloaded

I just got the download for maps 5.0 on my stock N1.

So far looks pretty neat.

Is there any way to calibrate the compass on the N1? Mine isn't quite right, which is annoying when using the compass mode in G maps 5
[Nexus One General] stoli412:
Have you tried waving it in a figure 8 pattern a few times? That usually helps.
[Nexus One General] Arcarsenal:
Just got Maps 5.0 from the market on my Nexus One. I can confirm that 2 finger panning for 3D maps DOES WORK 100% with our touch screens!
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
yeah it's live in market right now...!
[Nexus One General] PrawnPoBoy:
Ha, I make a post about how it seems to be taking a long time to release and 10 minutes later it's released. Oops.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
man they got rid of the bubbles in labs
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
ARGH!

Bastards.
[Nexus One General] saffad:
Got the new Google Maps 5.0 for nexus one, on Market.

you can use two finger to tilt! twist to rotate doesn't work

compass mode where map changes direction is in, and offline caching?
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
anyone know exactly how o get the 3D view..I went to NYC and cannot find the setting to get it to work