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[HTC Aria General] cease:
Explained, hopefully

I agree with all you've said, it is confusing and one needs to read a lot to understand it all. While that is time consuming, it's not a bad thing because by reading lots, we learn a lot. Answers to your questions below following the word ANSWER.

ANSWER: CM is simply someones verison of a new ROM, could have different kernel, features, included tools, etc. I don't use it but believe it's based on the Android 2.2 Operating System. FR007 is the latest version of the "Liberated" ROM (Liberated simply means it was liberated-freed from the constraints of AT&T, i.e., rooted to allow mods), but has Android version 2.2 as its Operating System. R012 is another modified verison of the basic ARIA ROM, but is based on Android version 2.1 Operating System. Both of the last two were built by ATTN1.

ANSWER: You can use them in Europe; no radio code changes, no h/w changes are made.

ANSWER: Rooting is simply "fixing" the phone so you can modify the Operating System and add new non-Market applications. AT&T releases the phone to not allow changes to be made...they don't want the hassle of people calling their tech support group. Doesn't mean we can't do it, hence this FORUM.

Liberating is not really an activity you can do; it's simply the name ATTN1 decided to call his version of his new ROM...he "liberated" it from the constraints of AT&T. Unlocking is something you need to do if a phone is locked, which some carriers do. I didn't have to do it with the ARIA, perhaps the Clockwork mod does that; I simply don't know. On one of my older HTC Microsoft based Smartphones I had to unlock it to modify the ROM.

ANSWER: to update the ROM you need to ROOT it. Read the Sticky for ROOTING, use the one that describes building a CD ROM that runs UNIX on your PC and does the whole ROOT thing for you. Very simple to build the CD and ROOT your phone. Just follow the directions.
[HTC Aria General] ckuke4:
Nice of "cease" to take the time to give a good detailed answer!

I will just add a couple of things...

If your phone is carrier locked and you want to use it on a different carrier you will have to unlock it. This is not done by any software change, it has to be done by an unlocking service or the original carrier.

If you want to make any changes to your phone you pretty much have to root it. This will give you the choice of either adding a different ROM or making other changes. If you are like me and want to keep the stock ROM for whatever reason, you can get rid of the AT&T bloatware, install non-market apps and other stuff by various methods found throughout this forum. Installing a new ROM is an easy method to achieve these same things, but I like to figure stuff out for myself first (I just got my Aria a few days ago).

Cheers.
[HTC Aria General] CMage:
Cease, thanks a lot for the detailed answer. I really appreciate...
[HTC Aria General] cease:
You're very welcome; glad I could help.
[HTC Aria General] cease:
Why unlock

Thank you for this; I didn't know why unlocking was ever needed. But this now makes sense given my first HTC Windows Mobile phone was purchased from a UK company (not AT&T) necessitating me to UNLOCK first before I could use it on AT&T with my AT&T SIM card.
[HTC Aria General] list101:
One of the main differences is that HTC Sync is available only on Liberated yet not on CM. I like CM better yet because of that I am with Liberated F006

If you need sync with MS Outlook - Liberated is the only choice.
[HTC Aria General] ShinerDraft:
Thanks for the good info.. My wife and I really like our Arias and are actually pretty happy with the stock setup. As I understand it, if I just root the phone, I'll still have my regular stock-looking setup but, I'll be able to get rid of AT&T's built-in apps and install whatever other apps I want, correct? (I've already sideloaded a few things, but it would be nice to just be able to install what I want..)
[HTC Aria General] tpbklake:
Rooting a standard setup does not automatically give you the ability to load third party apps as AT&T has removed that option in Settings altogether. You will still have to sideload third party apps. Also rooting will allow you to remove AT&T built-in apps, just be sure you read and understand the process and procedures thoroughly.
[HTC Aria General] ShinerDraft:
Ok, but the three ROM's mentioned in this thread will allow me to do those things? That's not a problem, I'm just trying to get up to speed on the terminology and steps required.. I don't want to do or change too much too quickly..

So of the three ROM's in the thread title, it seems like R012 would be the closest to our current, stock setup; FR008 (update to FR007) would be be similar, but add stuff from Android 2.2; CM would be even more different since it doesn't use the Sense interface.. Right?

I don't mind experimenting with ROMs that are different than stock, but I don't want to make any drastic changes to the wife's phone. (Marital tech support can be a pain..)
[HTC Aria General] 911jason:
That sums up the three main ROMs pretty well, I'd say. If you look in the Aria Superthread you will see an organized list of the modifications you can make and step-by-step instructions for each modification.

The key thing to remember about playing with the different ROMs is that before you start installing anything, you need to make a nandroid back-up. This is a feature in ClockworkMod Recovery that is installed when you root the Aria. The beautiful thing about a nandroid back-up is that later, at any point and for any reason, you can always return your Aria back to the exact state it was in when you made that back-up. In other words, you can go right back to the basic Android 2.1 with HTC Sense that came on your Aria when you first bought it. Knowing that made it much easier for me, personally, to go ahead and start playing with my Aria. I'm very glad that I did!
[HTC Aria General] ShinerDraft:
Thanks for the great info! This place is pretty high-level, so basics like this are very much appreciated by folks who need to play catch-up..
[HTC Aria General] brswattt:
What do you get on FR008? Battery life is always one of my main concerns. I know R012 has great battery life.
[HTC Aria General] 911jason:
I haven't personally used FR008. I did install it on two different co-worker's Arias, but my use of it in those cases was too short to evaluate the battery usage.
[HTC Aria General] brswattt:
Ah I see. I'm just so lazy ;p
[Desire Themes and Apps] syncopy:
Hi all,

Anyone here from India? Or Bangalore?

I have searched every nook and corner of the city for this particular case from case mate - http://www.case-mate.com/HTC-Desire-Cases/Case-Mate-HTC-Desire-Tough-Cases.asp

Has anyone managed to buy this in B'lore/India? Any online (trustworthy) shops would do. No luck with eBay! eBay has only those CAPDASE cases (NO aluminium one though)

Don't wanna order via Amazon UK or US site as the shipping charges are exorbitant :(

Thanks!
[Desire Themes and Apps] anirudhster:
I just ordered online. Got two options - FedEx 20 USD and UPS 3-4 USD... Had to wait a week, but was good !
[Desire Themes and Apps] syncopy:
That's good.. You bought it via Amazon? How much did you totally spend? Which option did you opt for - FedEx or UPS?

Cheers!
[Desire Themes and Apps] anirudhster:
Hi,

I bought the Gelli-case from case-mate.com.

Took the 7 USD shipping option. Totally cost me 19 USD.

I have seen some options in ebay.in and Zagg.com.

Would really recommend ordering online.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
[Desire Themes and Apps] guzaarish:
At sangeetha they have..but not this one...did..u buy case mate do write about it how it turned out...
[Desire Themes and Apps] syncopy:
Nope.. Sangeetha stores do not have this one.. They didn't have any "authentic" cases last time I visited them - Jayanagar, Forum Mall, Marathalli and a couple of other stores didn't have.

I currently have CAPDASE Soft Jacket 2 Xpose It's pretty good..
[Desire Themes and Apps] dkprince23:
hey,

I ordered a case mate barely there case on ebay UK... got it delivered to Hyderabad in 15 days. Shipping was abt 2 pounds , the total price was abt 15 pounds. i think was a great deal.
[Desire Themes and Apps] vampire36:
I bought a barely 1 of case matte for ma htc desire s...

It has strtd cuming jst last 2 3 weeks in pune atleast...

600 bucks it cost me...:)
[Desire Themes and Apps] syncopy:
Yup. I ordered (and received) one of case mate's "barely there" via eBay last week. Love the "barely there" cases. It cost me 700 bucks -- 645 + 55 for shipping.
[Desire Themes and Apps] gr8guzzler:
Hi, Can you let me know from which ebay site you ordered, the India one does not have this available. Thanks!
[HD2 Accessories] AlCapone:
This keeps your HD2 (or Desire HD, when you upgrade) at a nice angle to read news/watch episodes while travelling or eating lunch

Take two old magnetic cards, tape together with 1-2 mm space, cut them like I did.

That's the best, compact stand, fits into the card holder/wallet with your other cards.
[HD2 Accessories] ccezar2004:
now this is portable!... this with a nice paint finish and a fancy logo could be a best seller for those who travel a lot... on the plane, on the train, at a restaurant... you can use it everywhere... the best credit card you'll ever have... bonus: no monthly fees...
[HD2 Accessories] AlCapone:
yep, portability was my goal when I "invented" it. There are plenty of bulky devices that do this job.
[Legend General] supasye:
hi, sense ui normally doesnt have transition effects when opening apps, it only seems to work without sense, ive tried installing other transition effect (fly-in bounce etc, but, i find them not as nice as the zoom ones.. + they do not work when opening applications in sense..

the new update for the vodafone legend includes very nice transitional effects and i was wondering if anyone here is able to extract them somehow for use in other htc sense phones?

thanks.
[HD2 General] osamahindi:
I am new in this type of phone and I bricked it.

how I flash a rom with out HSPL and the phone dont do nothing only one thing

when I connect to the computer it reconize it like Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM

but now I dont know what to do to fix it. I think the phone is not damage because the pc

reconize it.

1. No LED light showing it's charging.

2. Won't power on at all.

3. Hard re-set doesn't work.

4. Can't get into bootloader.
[HD2 General] DJTJ:
I've had 5, and bricked two... Only hope is to just snatch the battery out for a few hours, and try again. Have a flash ready on A SD encase it ever starts unexpectedly.

Very similar to my story with a Happy ending here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=866852
[HD2 General] cjams:
you can contact the member of this group with the screen name of "trashcan"... he has the capability to jtag (revive) the unit.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnuopini:
Hi everybody, i'm developing a small app which needs to know the next alarm defined in the main "AlarmClock" app. My app works without any issue on all phones (and tabets) EXCEPT Galaxy S. It seems that the problem arises when i call this API:

String alarm = Settings.System.getString(getContentResolver(),
Settings.System.NEXT_ALARM_FORMATTED);

Even if i surround this with a "try/catch" the app will crash. I cannot debug this because i have no Galaxy S. Any idea? Can someone pleasepleaseplease with a Galaxy S create an empty app with this code and send me at least the generated exception from logcat? This would help a lot. Please!

Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBeano:
Works normally with no exception on a Galaxy S running Android 2.2.1 (JPU ROM). Returns either the next alarm or a blank string if no next alarm.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnuopini:
Probably this is a standard rom issue, i need someone with the stock firmware or i need to find a way to load the stock image on the emulator, any idea?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBeano:
You would probably get more feedback if you posted a test APK.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnuopini:
My widget here:

http://www.appbrain.com/app/advanced-clock-widget/org.zooper.acw

has this specific issue.

I can also post a debug apk if someone can help me get around this problem.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] nybom:
I'm using Coreplayer and the buttons on the headset activates HTC Sense player.

On my Raphael I had similar problems, when using the "Play button" on the headset Sense player started all though Coreplayer was running.

Some genious created a cab that solved this on the Raphael (originally it might even have been developed for Rhodium...)

The same cab I used on the Raphael doesnt have the desired effect on the Rhodium.

The name of the cab is: "T-Back 6.5 BT Driver.cab"

Any ideas on how to get the BT stereo headset buttons to interact with Core player?

I'm running a stock 6.5 rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cajunflavoredbob:
That's normally because the headset interacts with the default media player. See this thread for information on changing that.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] nybom:
Thanks for your input... But associating mp3 files with coreplayer didn't help...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] ekie84:
I got the update on the market last night...the problem is I can't installed app on my phone...when I download the app, it says 100% download successful but it didn't install the app on my phone. I have to clear the cache every time I want to download an app.I even try to uninstall update and I can download the app but then the market auto update it self...has anyone having this problem too? Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
I don't know if there is one yet, I don't think there is on here, at least with all the ones currently out. I'm bored, so I'm making one so people can easily see all the Kernels available. I'll TRY to keep this updated as new dev's release new kernels. Might be kinda tough though, but I'll try.

Anyways, here's a list of all the kernels (as far as I can find on this site) as of 12/9/2010. If I missed any, please PM me and I'll get it added.

[KERNEL] Stock Unmodified "8/1 Leak" kernel

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=760198&highlight=[kernel]

[Kernel] Hydra-kernel

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=701282&highlight=[kernel]

[KERNEL] [AOSP/CM][HAVS][BFS][OC][UV] KiNgxKernel

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=780973&highlight=[kernel]

[KERNEL] [HAVS] [BATTFIX] [BFS] [OC] [UV] KiNgxKernel

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=760050&highlight=[kernel]

[KERNEL] Stock Sense HTC Kernel

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=810151&highlight=[kernel]

[KERNEL] Adrynalyne's Sense & AOSP Kernels

http://adrynalyne.us/?p=83

[KERNEL] HeyItsLou-Cifs-Tun-Ext4-WN-BFS

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=859337&highlight=[kernel]

[KERNEL] [AOSP] invisiblek

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=854390&highlight=[kernel]

[KERNEL] incredikernel

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=848453&highlight=[kernel]

[KERNEL] Ziggy

http://www.ziggy471.com/

[KERNEL] Cayniarb

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=885217

[KERNEL] [AOSP] Savage

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=900167

[KERNEL] [AOSP] Tiamat

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=885217

[KERNEL] ALPHA by invisiblek

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905873

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
Nice thanks I've been thinking one of these was needed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SteveG12543:
You seem to have them all covered. I've been waiting for a consolidated kernel thread, I mean we had one for radios, and theres only like 5 of those lol... Anyways, thanks for the convenience.

Sent from my Droid Incredible running Myn's Warm Two Point Two RLS4.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rkerns:
Thank you so much... Having these all in one easily attainable thread is extremely helpful. Thank you again!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] irod87:
Very nice.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SCato:
Finally!

Loving Hydra on my DInc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mmmark111:
Rad. Nice work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] invisiblek:
good idea, this should be stickied!

linked to it in the wiki so if it does get buried we can find it :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
no problem guys!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
I had major instability with KingxKernal #5, had to switch back via Nandroid... anyone know a good, stable kernal?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] khanam:
try incredikernel for sense roms or ziggy's new one. they are both excellent kernel devs.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
I'm running invisiblek's AOSP kernels, with good results.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] colonel187:
I agree. I'm runnining incredakernel with SR3.5 and my battery has literally doubled.

sent from Google device via skynet
[Droid Incredible Android Development] khanam:
Think he wants a sense kernel since he wants to replace kings no 5 which is only for sense roms

Sent from my desire z inc port.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
Should I have wiped anything before flashing the kernel? I didn't see anything anywhere about that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Rustang:
Are there any over-volted kernels? I want to run 1.15ghz...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ptsmith24:
I usually wipe cache and dalvik cache.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kekspernikai:
Great list. Thanks for setting this all up. I agree that we needed one of these.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
Will wiping my cache/dalvik do anything for me now? Or should I flash a Nandroid, then wipe and flash the kernel again?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ptsmith24:
Probably won't do much for you now, since you don't seem to be experiencing any negative side effects, but it's good practice for future reference.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
so when flashing a kernel, we should wipe cache/dalvik?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
And does wiping cache/dalvik take away any of my already existing data?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
dont believe it does. only if you select "wipe data" it does.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Divine_Madcat:
Yes to both

No, it will not harm any of your data. The Dalvik cache is the virtual machine's cache, and is best to wipe it between different kernels, since each may have changes that effect the VM. Same with the regular cache.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
Ok thanks! I just went to the Skyraider kernel from ROM manager, might go back to incredikernel or kingx next week now that I know what that does.

I am really considering getting into developing now; it's a really interesting thing, and I have had a ton of fun modding these past few weeks. Lol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
haha yea its very addicting!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jpradley:
Competition for www.theincrediblelist.com?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hokieputter:
i'm running the latest skyraider vanilla with the SSUV hydra kernel and have seen a pretty dramatic increase in battery life. which i'm a big fan of. exactly the reason i started investigating kernels.

for those running this ROM, which kernels are you using? and what benefits are you seeing?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ptsmith24:
I was running chads but I switched back to stock and am getting similar battery life. I'm not sure if that is a result of some data still hanging around between kernel flashes, but I'm happy for now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cmdoptesc47:
I'm looking for the kernel that comes with CyanogenMOD 6.1 stable. I know I could flash the ROM over but I dont want to lose my theming tweaks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TheWizKid95:
I second this! I really don't want to lose my gingerbread theme!

(Link on my sig :P)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Cdoan34:
been using 2.6.32.27 Incredikernel and getting really good battery life. running SETCPU with smartass scaling and also running a screenstate.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Cayniarb:
You can add my kernel as well. It will soon be rebranded.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=885217
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
made this on christmas but got too drunk to post.. lol

Here's the stock cm kernel... but with 5 multitouch points enabled.

pm me if you have any issues with it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
added to the first post
[Droid Incredible Android Development] joshbdoc:
This is a good thread to see all the options
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sidewinder0000:
Does anyone know if there is a kernel for the DInc that has the trickle charge feature like the one for the EVO found here?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=876590

I have been using it on my EVO for a while, and it has been great getting up in the morning and keeping a 100% charge for an hour or so. I would like to find a DInc kernel that has this to put on my wife's phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
added Savage's AOSP kernel
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jesssiii:
Savage's new kernel that was just added here. Working so far with no plummeting battery % after charge and seems stable on my phone.

EDIT : Switched back to Invisiblek #28 due to concerns about the sbc mod issue.

Rooted Inc 2.2.1 S-off

LauncherPro +

2.15.00.11.19 Radio

CyanogenMod 6.1.0 Inc

Savage IncV1 CFS Kernel #30
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
added Tiamat's AOSP kernel
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jesssiii:
Trouble flashing this - didn't work. Gonna try re- download.

EDIT: Got it from a dropbox host and was able to download.

Rooted Inc 2.2.1 S-off

LauncherPro +

2.15.00.11.19 Radio

CyanogenMod 6.1.0 Inc

Invisiblek aosp Kernel #28
[Droid Incredible Android Development] swankylaxplayer:
Thanks a ton for consolidating all the kernels into one thread! I just have one request: can you group them by Sense and AOSP?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonbbrad:
Is there any Kernels out there that are better suited to the SLED display then others??? I just came from a D2 and the whole different displays thing is a bit of a pain.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Clutch McWinner:
I have SCLD screen, and on sense ROMS heyitslou Kernels ALL run fantastic.

I'm currently running the new MIUI ROM (AOSP) and Tiamat and Invisiblek both run fantastic. If you play alot of graphics intensive games, Invisiblek kernel had insane quadrant performance on my phone.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonbbrad:
I'm running cyanogenmod 6 with invisiblek #28 and I'm getting crazy battery useage from my display even when its hardly on... from what I've been reading here I thought it wad kernel related but maybe I just need to try another rom.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hero:
Try using Invisiblek's #21 kernel, it should help with the battery drain.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jonbbrad:
Thanks I'll try that one next.... it seems to be all display.... everyone thing else is 1 to 3% usage. I had better luck with 18 but that was only like 13 hours with light useage. I keep reading about ppl getting 20 plus hours using the same stuff I'm using and I don't see how.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jesssiii:
Nevermind.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Lilswimer19:
Much Needed Help!!

Finally there is a dedicated thread to kernels!! Alrighty now I have tried and tried again to flash a new kernel. I tried heyitslou numerous times with help form them and it still aborts every time I try to do it. Can you guys break down the whole process for me cause I have been trying for months with still no results =(

Thanks everyone in advanced!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
theres a couple new ones i have to had to the list, ill do that later on today

what are you guys getting the best battery life from with sense kernels? im running Incredibly Re-Engineering v2.20 with Lou's #8 kernel, and its OK, but nothing compared to invisblek's kernels on AOSP roms