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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
Are all the specs same as the t-mobile version?

I like to pick one up but ATT also has couple of nice android phones out. I likr the the inspire.

However I am currently on the unlimited media net data plan on my N1 and if I upgrade I will have to change my plan. As long as its not over priced I will look into to this. I save so much on my data plan. I could afford to pay non subsidized price for phone. I love screwing over Att. It seems they like to screw us over all the time.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I think anyone waiting for an att nexus s is crazy after MWC is over.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drungrin:
Thanks for the update, I got it, I was wondering if it wasn't just disabled, but as you stated, according to the FCC filings, it did NOT ship with 850Mhz 3G hardware.

Moving to another carrier this week ^^
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
More ATT proof for non believers:

http://www.androidcentral.com/did-aosp-code-changes-out-att-nexus-s
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
For some People they get the phne for its development and NS is the next dev phone. One of the only phones that is not locked down which you can get on ATT. Atrix might be the best spec phone but without dev its not really worth to me. I love mods. So locked down phones are no fun. BTW I have a brand new atrix 4G for sale if your interested pm me.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
haha that's too funny, right from the git hub page, and what luck and timing that he was just randomly browsing AOSP!

its confirmed in my mind, no doubt, no question. now the hard part, do i purchase the nexus s...grrrr.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
Anyways. Anyone has any idea when this phone will be available. It's already passed fcc. What's keeping Google or Samsung?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davwman:
Nexus s for ATT

So technically speaking, once Nexus S is released on At&t bands we should be able to run the same roms from the t mobile version; correct?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aakishore:
[Q] Not able to connect to 3G with carrier ATT

Hi,

I have purchased samsung nexus S from bestbuy and i have put in my att sim in the phone and started using it. For internet i am getting edge instead 3G. I tried calling customer service but even they are not able to figure out.

1. Please help me in telling how to get 3G in samsung nexus with att carrier.

2. ATT dealer said the phone which I will be getting is a unlocked phone is that true. I think yes as i am able to put in ATT sim and start using it.

3. How to upgrade to 2.3.3 or to do any upgrades. Will I be getting automatic updates or I need to register some where for that.

Thanks in advance.:o
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
Because even though it's unlocked, the Nexus S DOES NOT HAVE AT&T 3G BANDS. Only T-Mobile. You will only get Edge on AT&T.

-Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CB620:
A rom is a rom. so yes it will work.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
They worked fine on the Nexus One

So it should be fine
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
I just wish it was released already. It all works on nexus.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sombody:
[Q] where is the Nexus S at&t variant?

Does anyone have news about the availability of NS AT&T variant that passed FCC. It has been almost a month since it was approved and yet AT&T has not said any launch date. The same goes for all the carriers up north. If they don't announce it soon, it would be in april before it becomes available.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndreaCristiano:
As much as I love my inspire 4G I find myself missing my nexus S and I am strongly considering switching to it on arrival. I too am wondering why it is taking so long:mad: after the fcc passed it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
upgrade to 2.3.3 is automatic, although a bit sloooooooooooooooow on EDGE
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Alright, so I think I may have to eat some of my own words regarding the ATT Nexus. It's very possible it won't ever happen. I'm starting the FCC fillings are actually for the Sprint version:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/motorola-xoom-with-sprint-insignia-nexus-s-4g-logo-leak-out/

The FCC fillings aren't neccessarily for GSM, they are for 850/1900 bands...which line up with Sprint;s CDMA.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmstlist:
The AT&T compatible Nexus S will be released soon on Bell, Rogers, Telus, Koodo and Fido in Canada. It is very unlikely that AT&T will release it. Although stranger things have happened.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpasq:
http://community.futureshop.ca/t5/Cell-Phones-Communications/Official-Future-Shop-announcement-on-Nexus-S/td-p/280334
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
Does future shop sell to US resident? I wonder bestbuy Canada will sell the nexus s? Where is the pre order from bestbuy?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmstlist:
They will probably only ship to CDN addresses.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dan1431:
It is strange, maybe it is the subsidy thing (I could care less about subsidies, but I realize that I am in the minority) or maybe it is the fact that carriers like at&t Mobility are probably not too receptive to devices that they cannot control completely.

Regardless, it annoys me because I might like the device and I am forced to either fork over $529.00 for a device that will only work on EDGE (with at&t Mobility) or wait and potentially El Goog and Sammy will release a North American 3G variant of the Nexus S.

In the end, I am happy with my N1 and will probably wait and see what plays out, I just cannot help but be a little miffed.

Dan
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Old MuckenMire:
My personal opinion is that AT&T is never going to let another device slip by that has FREE wifi hotspot and FREE tethering built in.

It's always been my belief that Verizon and Sprint nixed the Nexus because of this. Google: "Nexus One will have free wifi hotspot and tethering" Verizon/Sprint; "no it won't, not on our network". Google: "Then N1 won't be on your Network". Everyone always had conspiracy theories about what happened between Google and Verizon/Sprint regarding N1...but I think it came down to this. Verizon and Sprint knew this device would be huge(if these features were included) and they weren't going to allow everyone with a Nexus to have free wifi hotspot and tethering built into the device with them having zero say over it's use.

I think AT&T somehow didn't realize or know or care that these features would be on the device.... at the beginning. They were probably just happy to get a decent android device as possible insurance against the iPhone going to Verizon. Think about it at the time: for all ATT knew the N1 was going to be the next fad device and they probably didn't want to lose out on a piece of it in case Apple went to Verizon eventually. Turned out to not be much of a gamble since N1 didn't take off(thanks to the pricks at Verizon and Sprint).
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CraigP17:
I don't think the previous post is correct at all. Google and Samsung do not need ATT permission to release a device that supports their particular 3G bands. Google and HTC didn't need it for the N1 either.

Sprint and Verizon already had similar HTC devices coming down the pipe so the nexus one wouldn't have made sense in their line ups.

It is correct that ATT Verizon sprint would not support subsidy on handsets giving customers free access to services they charge for.

T-Mobile is notorious for giving away the farm to get customers. Look at their promotions. And they have allowed us (best buy mobile) to subsidize unlocked handsets many times before. Nokia e71, n95, etc etc
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoberGuy:
Not even just a tad?

I always thought Google had talked to TMo and AT&T, and both had tentatively agreed to carry the N1 (read: offer subsidy and all). AT&T backed out, either because of tethering, wifi hotspot, inability to load bloatware, or some combination thereof. TMo, as you said, gave away the farm because they don't care. AT&T backed out on the subsidy, but by that point, production had been ramped up and units were ordered from HTC. So Google said to hell with AT&T, we'll sell it on our site anyway, cause it's been ordered and production is going.

In short, I think maybe you're both right. Just my theory, for whatever it's worth.

And as to not needing their permission to release a device that uses those bands...I agree and disagree. They don't need the permission, no. You are right. But did the N1 show that there is enough demand to create the supply of phones? Google said their approach was a failure, and I'd have to agree. Would having the device in brick and mortar stores help? To some extent, yes. However, then you'll have a $500+ phone sitting next to other phones in the same price range. The difference is, those other phones will also have the option of a carrier subsidy. I think those of us that purchase a device outright are in the minority. Further, that I'm aware of, the only carrier to offer a discounted PLAN to those who purchase equipment is...TMo.

TMo carried the first Android, they subsidized the N1, which didn't have any of their crap on it. TMo is willing to do that again with the NS. TMo plays ball, AT&T doesn't.

I have further thoughts, but that's for another time.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwig:
Wifi hotspot and tethering weren't even close to being available in the beginning with eclair. Those features came in froyo.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dan1431:
With regards to VZW/SPRINT, they can prevent any device on their CDMA networks that they do not want by preventing its IMEI from being added to the database.

With GSM it is a little harder and would require BLACKLISTING IMEIs of devices that they do not want activated on their network and I am not sure that is even legal.

I do not really see at&t Mobility saying to El Goog, do not make a North American 3G version of Nexus S. I could see them saying something like make a NEXUS S with North American 3G and we may stop selling Android devices. At that point, it would be up to El Goog/Sammy to call their bluff.

However, I really do not see that happening either as the amount of the at&t Mobility user population even interested in a NEXUS S I would reckon is fairly small

Dan
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoberGuy:
I'm not sure either is legal. There's an old, old lawsuit that covers purchasing your own equipment and attaching it to a (landline) network. Granted a lot has changed over the years, but I see that case as setting a precedent. If challenged on it in court, I don't see a judge allowing carriers to ban phones they don't sell themselves.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Old MuckenMire:
I bought the N1 on launch day... already having heard rumors that wifi hotspot and tethering would be built into the OS at some point. Don't think for a second that ATT, Verizon and Sprint had no idea. IMO, they did. Particularly Verizon and Sprint since by the time Google announced that there would be no Verizon/Sprint N1 devices the rumors of wifi hotspot and tethering were rampant by then.

Everyone has made good posts here, all I am saying is this: follow the money. There had to be a financial reason for Verizon and Sprint to reject the N1, IMO.

Does anyone think that ATT wants a bunch of people buying NS and then running up ALL KINDS of data on grandfathered unlimited plans using wifi hotspot and tethering? With no bloatware? Hell no, they want you buying those dumbass Galaxy devices and being completely under their control.

Just for the record, I'm on ATT and I LOVE them. I get great reception, great service. I'm no ATT hater. IMO, all the networks have hosed us consumers and ****-blocked Google from giving us great things at a great price. Maybe they are being fair financially, maybe not. only way to know is see their books.

T-Mobile seems to be the exception if they provide Android OS untouched and unmolested the way they have with the N1.

Also, Like Dan said, there are ways for network providers to screw Google other than blocking IMEIs, etc.. They can refuse to carry devices IN-STORE...that alone is enough to kill most devices.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] e-dub:
man, do i ever hope so...

eric b
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] irishrally:
It's all about the tmobile no-contract plan for $59.99. It's actually cheaper paying $529 up front and being on the $59.99 plan than getting the subsidized version for $179.99 and being forced into the $79.99 contract plan. Both plans are identical as far as 500 minutes talk, unlimited text and unlimited data.

I'll be picking up my Nexus S in 8 days for $529. I can sell it at any time and pick up the next latest and greatest phone to the hit the market at any time. For the android geek I am though, I don't see a better vanilla android phone coming out before the end of next year.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CraigP17:
when it comes to Google and HTC or Samsung, etc etc...making devices with certain 3G bands...they do not need carrier permissions. Nokia has done it for years with NAM versions.

Could the carriers hold a grudge and be less willing to carry their devices because of it? doubtful. In the US, it would hurt the carrier far more to deny handsets in their lineup. Wireless in the US is driven by the handsets.

The % of people who purchase unlocked handsets like Nexus VS your everyday subsidizing customers is soooooo minimal. Carriers dont get bothered by it.

Like ive stated, I manage a store for a retailer who sells all 4 major carriers, unlocked phones, unlocked phones subsidized on US carriers, and of course the Nexus S on the 16th.

Carrier relationships do come into play for such a retailer. T-Mobile doesnt care. AT&T could get bent out of shape if this retailer wanted to subsidize a Nexus device on their network, so it wont happen. ATT would not care at all if this retailer was selling a nexus s full retail that worked on ATT network.

people like you and i who will drop $500+ (ive done it at least 8 times) are the small minority.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaximReapage:
Maybe ATT's 3G cuts out in Mountain View ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JaredtotheRESQ:
The biggest problem with them not putting at&t 3G bands on the Nexus S is people like me. I live in an area where the only carrier choices are at&t, Sprint, and US Cellular. The closest T-Mobile store is over 70 miles away, and there are NO GSM towers anywhere close to here other than at&t's. It's a fairly large college town, but there is no hope of T-Mobile coming into the area any time soon.

I have a Captivate on at&t, and while I love the hardware, the software (and software support) is abysmal (AXURA helps, but it still feels sluggish, even compared to my girlfriend's EVO running CM 6.1). I want a Nexus S purely because it runs stock Android. I'm very much hoping they will release a 850Mhz version, and I am more than willing to pay the unsubsidized price.

So, if any Google engineers are reading this; PLEASE MAKE A 850MHZ NEXUS S! I'm sure I'm not the only person on at&t that wants this phone, and I'm also sure I'm not the only one that will pay full price to have it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calin75:
It is getting quite strange. I just called the Best Buy Nexus S help line, and they told me that the unlocked Nexus S will be compatible with AT&T 3G network. They said they are 100% positive it will work. I am like what?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Scrooge276:
Confirmed AT&T 3G (via phone)

I just called as well and spoke to someone named "Vinny" and he stated twice that the phone would support the correct 3G bands for AT&T at launch! There was no doubt in his mind and it seemed as though he was getting the question quite a bit.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skunz35:
I sure hope they know what they are talking about!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMR6:
I still have my doubts but if it supports 850 I will get one just to have the current Google phone.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CraigP17:
i think you need to be more specific when asking if youre talking about AT&T voice or AT&T 3g data...

although Engagdet's review is very unclear when they mention they were pulling 2mb with AT&T, they did not make it clear if they were comparing the nexus to a at&t phone
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calin75:
I specifically asked about AT&T's 3G service. He said he was positive that it will support it. I am also intrigued about Engadget article talking about AT&T 3G speed on the Nexus S, I pressume?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
I say it will.

You may be able to run "Vibrant hack" to gain 850 or 1900 access if the chip supports quad-3G.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
This is what Even More Plus for: You buy a device for full price or bring in your device, then we don't have to subside the device but we give you deeper monthly discount so the customer saves more money in the long run.

It's actually a win-win scenario especially the customer is a phone geek.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lpasq:
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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skunz35:
So is there any way to really know if it works on at&t 3G before they start selling them?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
This topic already exists, LOL!

Either way,
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skunz35:
Yeah we all know it will work on at&t edge, we want to know if it will support 3G data speeds
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IpodLover77:
damn att users want this phone so bad that they somehow developed a sliver of hope that it will.

like everyone stated, att uses 850/1900 and the site clearly says 900/2100/1700. i dont understand how people could get hope when its clearly written..?

you'll get speeds even faster than 3g but only if your in a wifi area. lol.

this phone will only be compatible with att edge unless samsung used a pentaband 3g chip that nokia used for the n8. i somehow doubt it htough.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scaots:
The engadget article mentions other at&t 3g devices in that paragraph so I assume that they are not talking about at&t 3g on the Nexus S.

What is the i9003 that just went through FCC with 1900MHz WCDMA? No mention of 850MHz though so might be many places where you won't get ATT 3G with that? Not sure as I am not familiar with their network.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juicedog:
My 2 cents here... just in case anyone from Google or Samsung is paying attention to this thread.

Please release a penta UMTS Android phone for business users. Quite frankly tmobile network is not good enough for business use in US. Just not enough coverage in certain areas. And most verizon phones won't work overseas.

So, many business users are forced to buy either blackberry (on verizon or att) or iphone on att. I for one have Aria on att, but have to switch the phone to bb or nokia when I travel overseas, especially to Japan and Korea. Can't wait to have one phone (Android phone) for US and all international travels.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
Anyone know how to see these Even More Plus plans on T-Mobile website? I have to google it and get the links, but would like to see all of them if possible?

When clicking shop/plans/individual it only shows the regular plans.

Currently for me (southern california) there's the $79 a month for 1500 Minutes/unl Text/unl Web, which is a deal itself since other states have it only for 500 minutes.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samven582:
T mobile got rid of those plans on their website a few months ago. It is still available at their retail locations.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjazar12:
I just spoke to 4 different Best Buy Nexus S reps and each and every one stated that the 529 unlocked option will support att 3g. They said that the GSM on the website does mean ATT 3g and that the HSPA is the 3g for tmobile. On the Nexus landing site it states Quad-band GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 Tri-band HSPA: 900, 2100, 1700 which means it is going to support it so spread the word this phone supports both Tmobile 3g and Att 3g.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skunz35:
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003

What type of technology does AT&T use in their mobile network? We use technology based on the 3GPP family of standards. Currently our wireless networks consist of GSM/EDGE (2G) and UMTS/HSPA (3G) and we have announced plans to begin to deploy LTE (4G) in the 2011 time frame.

I still don't believe the nexus s will work on at&t 3G as of right now...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjazar12:
you may be right but the rep seemed like he knew what he was talking about and probably could hold his own on XDA and he was 100% positive that it would work on att 3g
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skunz35:
Oh I know I've talked to a rep as well cause I was curious, and he seemed very confident it would, I just don't completely trust some rep who probably doesn't even know what a nexus s is, besides what some sheet of paper tells him about it
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjazar12:
you may be right but u should try calling one more time and asking for Julian he explained it to me and he could maybe explain it to u
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skunz35:
Look at this

http://www.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3

Its just not adding up...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
Can someone just pop an AT&T sim card into one already :P
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nxt:
Yeah no kidding, I've yet to see a review/unboxing where someone tried.

I have AT&T with my Nexus One, and I'll be getting the Nexus S Thursday at a Best Buy with no T-Mobile sales, so it'll be full priced. I'll pop my AT&T SIM in there, and if no 3G, I'll walk across the street to T-Mobile and transfer my service.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Scrooge276:
Yeah with all of the demo units out there I would thought someone would have by now...

I am holding out hope because 1) The Best Buy rep has confirmed on their own hotline, 2) The Vibrant specs also do not list AT&T 3G bands but yet it works, same manufacturer.

Very possible this is one of those deals where it cannot be advertised/known officially in public due to deals with TMO and/or AT&T.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dapoktan:
I saw this a while back..

nvm.. wrong info
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lorijuan1024:
it show on google phones that it does support the 850 and 1900 check it out so i guess i am getting this phone :)

http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skunz35:
Yeah 850 GSM, unless it has the hidden bands like the vibrant, it will only get 2G or Edge from at&t or atleast that's what all the websites say and the at&t rep I talked to said, but who knows I may be wrong
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sl8125:
Unless nexus s has 850mhz umts band it will not work on att data. However nexus s will work on gsm voice. Unless you want to run edge data service on your NS you just will have to wait for a official release of NAM version of NS. It will come if you wait. Even N1 was released after a month or so.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paparasee:
Hello :)

I plan to order the phone from the US for use in Kuwait and am just wondering if the phone would work here.

I am not too sure what the local networks support, but I do know that the Nexus One was working fine with friends.

Again, I was a little worried as the BestBuy FAQ's state that the phone is "intended for use in the US". Would this be a problem if I buy an unlocked phone with no contract.

Thanks for any assistance.

George
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dliao:
Unlocked one should work with Voice. You just need to double check on the 3G band your carrier use and make sure it matches the Nexus S spec. I'm pretty sure simple googling of your carrier should come up with some result.