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[EVO 4G General] EyeslikeOlives:
Sense UI belongs to HTC, not Sprint. So when HTC completes the Gingerbread transition for the HTC EVO, that means it'll have Sense UI (most likely, unless they keep it off). Sprint has no say in what HTC adds to their phones. You might be right about the upgrade thing from Sprint, but then again they did release the Froyo upgrade rather quickly while the HTC Hero and now the Samsung Epic 4G are still stuck on Eclair. It's mostly up to the vendor (a.k.a: HTC). Sprint just adds their bloatware and sends it off. As for profit, I think the HTC EVO and Epic 4G are their top selling phones. Considering how many are out there, I don't think they would withhold the Gingerbread update from the EVO when it's released. Sprint isn't withholding the Froyo update for the Epic 4G, it's Samsung who is taking forever to upgrade.
[EVO 4G General] cornelious2:
depends if they meant fiscal or calendar quarter. My company started Q1 with December. but I will believe anything when I see some real leaked road-maps or something similar otherwise I remain skeptically hopeful.
[EVO 4G General] amdchip:
Ahhh I stand corrected. I didn't know there was a difference. I hope I'm wrong on everything else to, I'm glad we got Froyo for our EVO's but I doubt we will get an official release of Gingerbread. I think sprint will use Gingerbread as a marketing tool for their new phones.
[EVO 4G General] jeriel05:
According to Jeremy from HTC we will get an official update 1st quarter of 2011. Like I mentioned before he said he could not tell me the release date, but said gingerbread is gonna be available for the Evo. I asked if this was for sure he said yes. Just sit back and wait for it.

Sent From My "EVO"
[EVO 4G General] tvanderkooi:
Have not seen the real reason mentioned

I feel that the real reason that Gingerbread will definitely be released for the EVO, and that Sprint will support it and get it out quickly, is that the EVO is less than 1 year old. Sprint is not going to try to force users off of their EVO's to another phone when it is still too soon for that plan to fit with their upgrade plans. Remember that Sprint does not make their money on phones (there is a reason they give them away for free to get you to sign up), they make their money on the plans. The only real reason that Sprint has to push you to a new phone is if it supports newer and potentially more expensive features. Couple the time frame of less than one year and add in the fact that the EVO was Sprint's first huge push into business accounts, and you can be sure that they have a very real interest in getting the EVO upgraded quickly. Now when it comes to Honeycomb which looks to release after EVO's one year window passes, then all bets are off.

There is also the note that Sprint does not have a better phone than the EVO available at this time, so I'm not sure what people are thinking that Sprint is going to be pushing us towards.
[EVO 4G General] avalst:
I totally agree with you. If you put Gingerbread on the EVO officially that'll precipitate a whole new wave of purchases for the device and keep us happy and paying our $10 extra fee :)
[EVO 4G General] wrxlvr:
My guess is March.
[EVO 4G General] crabjoe:
I don't see why it wouldn't be profitable for Sprint to upgrade older phones with the newest OS. It's not like they can't sell new phones and they could just be able to hold onto older customers that might switch to a different carrier (Remember other carriers have been offering new top tier Android phones for free!). Plus Wimax isn't available to most and many people don't want to pay the extra $10/mo. Last thing is that it costs Sprint $$$ to subsidize new phones. So why is would it not be in Sprint's interest to keep a existing customer happy with what they have, when they will pay the same as someone with a new contract? Churn can kill a company due to more marketing costs for new customers to replace what they have lost. I'd say it's cheaper to keep an existing EVO or whatever phone happy, then to try and replace them.
[EVO 4G General] blackroseMD1:
From what I hear from various Sprint people is that they don't have any high end phones coming out in the first quarter, well, nothing better than the EVO anyway, which means that the EVO is still their flagship phone.

EVO will get Gingerbread, I have no doubts about that. Honeycomb may be another story however. Glad that I'm rooted and we have awesome devs here at XDA, so I know that I will get Honeycomb either way. ;)
[EVO 4G General] josh995:
Anyone who thinks the evo won't get gingerbread is retarded.

Sorry.

As far as I have read, sprint doesn't have any super amazing evo replacement coming anytime soon.

The evo is their best selling phone ever, right? It's getting gingerbread. Period.

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
[EVO 4G General] treckin:
/signed
[EVO 4G General] Pierceye:
Just chipping in a little news. Just finished speaking with a rep at HTC and he indicated that the Evo is getting Gingerbread. The update is ready on their end, they are just waiting for Sprint to give the okay to release the OTA. The rep thought the most likely time frame would be Jan/Feb 2011. He also said that the new Sense 2.0 would be included in that update. Just have to wait and see.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Mentioned this in the other thread you posted but this one is more relevant.

Android 2.3 isn't even on the Nexus One yet and that's straight from the source that created it. CES is right around the corner which will likely bring a new wave of HTC phones; and don't forget about the newer international/HTC flagship phones (Desire Z/HD). Yet you think that the EVO with a new version of Sense to be ready before any of these? Very unlikely.

Who did you call exactly? Customer Service?
[EVO 4G General] rstuckmaier:
Didn't see this thread until it got bumped up but I'm pretty surprised that no one apparently actually read the 3 links posted. They say HTC will be releasing gingerbread but on new phones, not necessarily on the Evo. Granted the 2nd one says Evo will get gingerbread, but that was written in march and it was mostly about Froyo updates.

Granted I think "we'll" get an update, but I will be happily using CM7 when the "stock" update comes out.
[EVO 4G General] netkgb:
Very good info. Thanks
[EVO 4G General] bigredneck3100:
I just hope that we do get it...and Im ready to start rooting on mine so I guess it wont really matter either way lol....Im just on the fence about rooting...
[EVO 4G General] 1010011010:
Noooooo!!! Please, HTC, stop screwing up android. :mad:
[EVO 4G General] kpitts:
The EVO 4G will almost definitely be getting Gingerbread... BUT Sprint is about to release the EVO Shift.. Will it make the EVO obsolete or just be another great seller for Sprint?
[EVO 4G General] rushco:
The EVO Shift has a keyboard and the EVO does not. No way will it make the EVO obsolete. Once a big screen faster phone with honeycomb comes out then the EVO will be obsolete.
[EVO 4G General] donatom3:
I'm going to laugh when the Evo gets gingerbread before the Galaxy S phones even get Froyo.
[EVO 4G General] thegame3202:
Yup, never buying another Samsung android. Epic fails with all of their phone updates.
[EVO 4G General] Ookami_EVO:
Now that i'm rooted i can't accept sprint OTAs right? I was wondering how i'd update my radios and such, also when i was using cyanogen the android market had it's old look. How do i fix my radio concerns? Or do i let CM7 take care of that.
[EVO 4G General] Vandelay007:
First....no...never accept ota updates....and secondly...what kinds of issues are you having with your radio? When it comes to updating radios I have always believed in the theory "if its not broken, don't fix it" but that's just my .02
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
naw, i think by summer the evo will become more & more obsolete. you will know when the devs start leaving us. myself we are probably going to tmobile in a few months so i may see what they have to offer. im also keeping close tabs on a new high end webos device that may be announced in feb.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
the epic is a darn nice phone.
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
LOL.. Don't get the same impression when I play with it. Can't stand the unnatural looking "Super AMOLED" the colors just look fake. Not to mention Touchwiz is complete garbage.
[EVO 4G General] del4:
If you're running CM, you'll need to do a nandroid backup, flash back to a Sense ROM to perform the OTA radio update and then restore your nandroid.

You can also update the market to 2.2.7 with a flashable zip if you don't like the older version...
[EVO 4G General] del4:
+1 :) I was happily running Froyo (CM6.1.1) on my Hero (no thanks to Sprint) and hopefully will soon be running Gingerbread (CM7) on my EVO whether Sprint comes out with an update or not...
[EVO 4G General] Ookami_EVO:
Was just wanting to keep up with the newest radios but is this is a non-issue I'll go with your if it ain't "broke don't fix it." I flashed CM6 last night and throughly enjoyed it but the 1 nagging issue that made me flash back to stock was lack of 4G, I was informed of good things to come in CM7 alpha testing. Thank you for your input i may just let sleeping dogs lie lest i be bitten.
[EVO 4G General] GumboChief:
OTA updates work fine if you are s-off.

I have done 2 or 3 OTAs this way.

Just drop a recovery, and install su.
[EVO 4G General] Ookami_EVO:
reall so i can OTA DL rom manager and reflash the recovery? to i have to reset my partitions too?
[EVO 4G General] KirkH420:
I was just at a sprint store a few days ago and i asked them. There is an official Gingerbread release date for the EVO, so we can stop debating it entirely. They said somewhere in Feb if it isn't held back for whatever reason.... just sayin.

LOL I showed them my Rooted Device w/Fresh 3.5 and told them that when i installed Gingerbread a few days prior that it was Beautiful. They were jealous and the guy at the counter tried to trade his phone for mine. :p

obviously i didnt let them see my ESN or give them my name :D
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Since when is a Sprint a reliable place to get info? I know someone who works in one and he's a complete idiot.
[EVO 4G General] entropism:
They have NO idea when GB is coming. Hell, they still don't know the official date froyo is coming to the epic. Its all guessing until the day of release for them.

Sent from my HTC EVO
[EVO 4G General] KirkH420:
ROFL yeah that is often true. Store manger pulled the info from his store computer. Fact is, EVO is getting the update. No matter what anybody says on the internet, be it a proven fact or not, there is always a hand full of people who must object to feel important. If i post on a forum "the sky is blue," some moron will undoubtedly say "not when its raining." Sigh... such is the internet. There really is no need for people to debate things that they have no information at all on but that never stops em. Some people are assuming that Sprint will just discard the EVO as the new device comes out. One should not ass-u-me.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
He pulled from his store computer? Right, how convenient. There are couple of Sprint employees from other forums and nobody has heard a thing.
[EVO 4G General] popular nobody:
Why would they know? Only selected Google employees and device testers assigned specifically to the EVO, are testing Gingerbread for the carrier. A Sprint employee doing retail wouldn't know this, until the chosen month. ETA changes all the time, but March was the tentative month, and it was December when I've seen that month. It's not a matter of it, but a matter of when.
[EVO 4G General] KirkH420:
Removed accidental double post.
[EVO 4G General] KirkH420:
why would Google be holding it back? Gingerbread source is already released and you can install ROMs that are Gingerbread. Theres only a few things which aren't working... 4g and 8megapixel camera for example. 4g is only for certain devices and isn't a huge feature that they will need to add. The front camera and 8megapixel rear cam just need to be driven; this is also not Google's problem. HTC also will want to add Sense to Gingerbread before releasing it. Seems to me that HTC and Sprint are who are holding it back, not Google.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I agree with you - I was mocking him for the same reasons.
[EVO 4G General] KirkH420:
Why do you feel a need to be a Douchebag? I don't feel that 'popular nobody' was mocking, we were discussing something. You just chimed in with a useless comment. At least he took time to put together a contributing post. Thanks for taking time away from w0w and chatting with internet babes so that you could attempt to "mock" me.
[EVO 4G General] tangstang:
I work at a sprint store and haven't heard anything solid.

For whomever said sprint retail employees wouldn't know about upcoming stuff, I knew some details on the Shift back in August, all about knowing the right people. Guess the people you're talking about just don't care.
[EVO 4G General] thegregbradley:
I'm gonna guess it'll be out some time in late March or early April, given that it took till July/August for Froyo to get to the Evo. HTC/Sprint seem to care somewhat about their Evo customers, there's no reason for HTC to have given us Swype, but we got that in the December update, so I see no reason why they wouldn't work relatively quickly to get us Gingerbread. Three months ain't that long to wait, froyo is working fine and gingerbread simply isn't mega exciting anyway.
[EVO 4G General] KirkH420:
right? cause leaked information is just not a possibility is it? And it is completely impossible for a person working in a sprint store to have connected friends who do have information..... why are so many people being so negative on this subject? Gingerbread for EVO is something all EVO owners want yet some people's negativity suggests otherwise.

If you consider that Sprint's new phone The EVO Shift is basicly a de-tuned version of the EVO selling for 50 dollars less, I would think that Updating the more powerful big brother EVO is a no-brainer. It will be sooner than later. The Shift has lower rez camera (5mp), a slower CPU (800mhz), a smaller screen (3.6 inch), no front facing camera, and no HDMI output. This phone's release reminds me of how Intel built the Celeron on the exact same architecture (actually the exact same chip) as the Pentium but they disabled the L2 cache to intentionally cripple the CPU so they could dominate the low-budget CPU market and compete with crush AMD's sales.
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
The Evo Shift is a faster device, just so your aware. The Snapdragon is more efficient and beats the OGEvo in benchmarks, not to mention it houses the Adreno 205 which is double the speed as the Adreno 200 found in the OG EVO.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
Gingerbread will be coming soon but sense 2.x may not be, ever wonder why all the phones that have it have more internal memory?

ohh yeah, and sbc kernels are bad mmkay ;)

Edit: and by soon I mean before the end of this month, maybe
[EVO 4G General] klquicksall:
Just don't say something is bad without proof. You just sound foolish that way mmkay

The EVO you wish you had
[EVO 4G General] xfullmetal17:
Meh, I ain't looking back... Spent three hours without all the Sprint bloatware on my phone and loved every second of it, I'll wait for rooted versions, thanks. Glad to see there's an official update coming though, means Playstation Suite is a go later this year!
[EVO 4G General] LoveisPeace2012:
The man knows his specs
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
The op will know what I am talking about, you on the other hand apparently don't.

And actually yes there is plenty of proof but that is for a different thread.
[EVO 4G General] lowspeed:
Boy they sure are taking their time.
[EVO 4G General] DeusXkatana:
What will this mean for us rooted users who want 2.3? Will we be able to get the update even tho we're rooted?
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Yes sir
[EVO 4G General] Qoolcat:
Can't wait for the update!
[EVO 4G General] apheonixboy:
Im already running Gingerbread 2.3.2 ...
[EVO 4G General] r916:
thats forsure. its a quick little thing but screen is toi small for me, key board is amazing though.

Sent from a htc evo
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
whats up with the weird looking signal icon in the taskbar? :confused:
[EVO 4G General] kidjolly:
Pic looks like it might be a rom, or photoshoped.
[EVO 4G General] dzuchowski:
Dude the Eco 4g has slower CPU at 800mhz. It has non super tft screen. It has a way smaller screen and no front cam and has lesser rear cam.the Eco shift 4g is Evo in name only. It's a marketing ploy.
[EVO 4G General] dzuchowski:
The Eco shift is not based off the Evo 4g.
[EVO 4G General] apheonixboy:
Its a Honeycomb theme
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The shift may be 800 Mhz but it ain't slower.
[EVO 4G General] ChadH42:
If you want Gingerbread on your EVO now, install CM7 RC1. It is very stable but it lacks 4G.
[EVO 4G General] swaze:
There is a version of RC1 with 4G already posted up in the dev forums.
[EVO 4G General] indagroove:
I'd way it's somewhat stable, but "very stable" is a bit of a stretch, IMO.
[EVO 4G General] ronnyhawks:
if you want to run the best gingerbread rom for the evo get evervolv b3. everything works except 4g and hdmi. ive been running it for months and ive tried everything and nothing beats it. after you do gps fix it works perfect but only on 2.6.35 cm kernel which is stock on the rom. this rom is 2.3.2 which is the latest gingerbread update. this rom is the only way to go. vvm getting put into it very soon also
[EVO 4G General] splmonster:
Yeah you are dead wrong.. The EVO Shift even clocked at 800mhz beat the OG EVO in every benchmark. It has the same chip the G2 has, which is faster then the EVO and clocked lower. Not to mention the Shift has the Adreno 205 GPU which is double the speed of the Adreno 200 in the OG EVO. You obviously are clueless because both devices are in the same family of HTC EVO's.
[EVO 4G General] Rem3Dy:
Now this man knows his stuff
[EVO 4G General] Gilly11277:
IDGAF what all you shift haters think, Evo shift is best shift. Haha, I wouldn't of bought my Evo first I would of considered the shift, its like the milestone....but not stupid. XD
[EVO 4G General] Gilly11277:
If**
[EVO 4G General] boiker:
I'd agree. I flashed it twice and couldn't get my GPS to work-- Only network location.
[EVO 4G General] ZachPA:
So who doesn't believe that an 800 MHz processor could beat a 1 GHz processor? To answer this question, I would like to call your attention to Intel's processor lineup of 2006.

In Q3-06, Intel released the Core 2 processor. Pit a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo E6600 against a Pentium D 960 running at 3.6 Ghz (that's 50% more cycles...), and the Core comes out the winner by 20-50% depending on the benchmark or workload.

Up until that time, AMD's Athlon was thoroughly trouncing the Pentium 4. Clock for clock, it was 20-50% faster, also.

Just beacuse a CPU operates at a zillion cycles per second doesn't mean that it will perform additional work.
[EVO 4G General] kenfly:
This thread is old news
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Stable my but....
[EVO 4G General] Gilly11277:
Legit.
[EVO 4G General] m4xwellmurd3r:
Cm7 rc1 after clearing the GPS with sprint lovers has been rock solid for me. I'm getting 1700 on quadrant at 1190 MHz. Way better than any other setup I ran before. I'm averaging about 1600. Also running savagedzen 007 bfs havs kernel. Everything works great.

Unrelated question, what does I/o performance help with. I noticed moto droids have an inflated score there

Sent from my evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] dzuchowski:
Dude a 1ghz cpu is 200mhz faster then an 800mhz cpu in the Echo Shi+less 4g. The Evo Shif+less is not in the same family. HTC even says that it is based off another device. It is evo in name only. I am now considering trading my phone because i am so upset with the evo shif+less being in the same named family.
[EVO 4G General] m4xwellmurd3r:
An 800mhz processor thatvdoes more work per cycles is faster than a 1000mhz processor that does less work per cycle. Look at the CPU wars of ten years ago. 1000mhz and chips were destroying Intel chips clocked several hundred MHz higher

The shift is in the same family but is baaed primarily off the g2, and has a superior processor and gpu. At 800mhz it scores over 1400 in quadrant to the evos 1100-1200

Sent from my evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] dzuchowski:
well i can face chat and have a bigger screen!
[EVO 4G General] shorty6049:
So I know this is waaay off topic ;-) but has anyone heard any updates on gingerbread? The cm7 version im running is still a bit buggy.... so awesome though
[EVO 4G General] aimbdd:
Uhm... thread Jack much? No one cares. This is the evo forums...;)

We need offical 2.3! Haha
[EVO 4G General] TonyArmstrong:
I'm interested only in which 2.3 ROM is going to allow me to use ALL my phone's capabilities (including 4G, GPS, camera, all that), not whether the Evo Shift is an Evo or not...

So, does anyone have any new info to contribute??
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
gginggerbread-6 is pretty awesome, it all works flawlessly, cept for ffc is a tad dark
[EVO 4G General] AbsolutZeroGI:
I've been running the same rom since yesterday (drat, I need to update my signature...*sigh*) and it's been pretty good for me. WiMax seems a little unstable but has worked for the short periods of time I've needed it.

I miss the sense widgets, but showing 4g gingerbread to my jealous Android-toting friends makes it all worthwhile.

Can't wait to see Sense Gingerbread, it'll probably be gorgeous!
[EVO 4G General] tonyscha:
I cant wait for official support, but I will stick with CM7 for now!
[EVO 4G General] steventpowell90:
I'm using CM7 right now and I love it. I really have no problems with it. My battery life is alot better too. (Even though I'm using the 3500mah extended battery.) I'm really excited for an official version so that we have Sense intergrated into it. Should be pretty sweet.
[EVO 4G General] m4xwellmurd3r:
Im on cm7 rc1 its awesome. My only gripe is the camera doesn't have the awesome settings that froyo roms have. I miss all the customizations

Sent from my evo 4g
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
Come on HTC/Sprint, if the GalaxyS line gets GB before we do you will quickly go from being the first to roll out updates to the last. Don't do us like that.

I wonder if we will be getting netflix along with it and if that's what's taking them so long. Although they could always add the DRM and what not for that later.

http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/12/09/samsung-galaxy-s-will-get-android-2-3-gingerbread-eventually/
[EVO 4G General] mattykinsx:
Couple of comments to this:

1) It's more HTC than Sprint, carriers test the updates and add their bloatware, not build the update ;)

2) It's probably moreso because of the failure of 2.3. As has been stated, most manufacturers are skipping 2.3 and moving directly to 2.4.

Thus, the "time until completion" would have started over with 2.4.

3) Samsung is terribly slow with updates.

Terribly, horribly slow.

Ask anyone with a Samsung phone about Froyo.

Samsung owes their customers a quicker-than-others update to the next version after Froyo.
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
Why is there a failure with 2.3 ?
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
double post...
[EVO 4G General] tunez23:
Probably something to do with the fact that almost no one has it and there are already talks of the Honeycomb being made fully functional for the phones. Why put effort into getting 2.3 onto phone when people will only be unhappy so soon when "3.0" is right behind it.

Also, someone said something about Netflix. That is only going to be on some of the dual core phones, that support the DRM (I think it was DRM, please correct me if I called it wrong).
[EVO 4G General] xfullmetal17:
Phones don't have to be dual-core to support DRM... As far as I know DRM is software controlled and not hardware...

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Android market have DRM to a certain extent?