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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodolfo7171:
ok what you need to do is if you are at a best buy that doesnt have tmobile and they are shipping it to your house then once they get to the point where it ask for the SKU of the phone tell them that you already have the unlimited internet plan and that you just want to keep your existing plan so they check off the 2 boxes in the bottom then it should let you go on to the next step.

im not sure about stores that have tmobile in them.

but it should work im still on the family basic plan from 2004 with tmobileWeb
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjpetrozelli:
Are not many others facing the same issues with Tzones and Data? I have not gotten data to work once, using ever APN I could possibly think of. Works fine in my unlocked iphone on edge but nothing in my s. I am going to traveling a bit today so I will see if in 3g/other edge areas if data will work.

Phone status says edge but keep getting that page "Service Unavailable" it doesn't even ask me to upgrade my service. Weird!?!?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeburn:
I have the same problem. My data no longer works! "Service Unavailable"
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diagnosisdroid:
Same thing here. I'll hold out for a day or two before calling to see what kind of deal I can get.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjpetrozelli:
I am located 35 miles west of NYC maybe it is a regional thing? Anyway, please do give updates if you find a solution. I really love this phone but I am not keeping it if I have to upgrade my data its not worth 360/year for data most of which will be edge for me.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeburn:
When I puy in my sim in my N1, internet works but when I put it back into my NS, I get a "Service Unavailable" sign
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jh811:
yup no more web2go working on NS for me either. Looks like cheap internet party is over
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjpetrozelli:
I called them just now, they are able to offer 20/month unlimited data for me. But I do not get anything but Edge where I live and work so its really a worthless plan to me. I am going to be selling my phone if it does not work after today. :mad::(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesyt:
tzone and web2go

Is this happening to both tzone and web2go users? Thanks!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ironcrotch:
I have t-zones and I am getting this message.

Hopefully this is only temporary or going back to my HD2.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
I got "upsell error" or "PPU error" this morning on 3rd line ($10 internet) and webconnect no matter whatever APN is using while it works 100% with XT720.

I think it has to be rotated with MT4.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Das_mobile:
Hey Scottish, its Antenna from the "other" forum

That really sucks, it wont even work with Webconnect? Looks like I will have to keep using my Nexus One. Maybe its just a hiccup
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
Not at all unfortunately.

Now I may shell out ETF and cancel webconnect plan (I have Clear now and it runs up to 10Mbps), and ask for loyalty 4G web on 3rd line ($10 more a month).
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesyt:
I've been running internet on my HD2 via Tzone all day without any interruptions. I just got the Nexus S but haven't opened it yet. If this keeps up, I'm returning it to the store.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Hmm, voicestream apn died here as well. (miami)

Still working on my Nexus one though. =/

I hope they didn't imei list the NSes. Might have to return this phone then and rebuy it through contract. argh.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacksonj51:
Same same here... been an internet2.voicestream apn user for years with no probs but the S has been shut down

N1 works perfect.... Tethering my N1 for observation
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milkham:
i've been using an old blackberry plan for several years on iphone and n1, i'm having the same problem this sucks.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benjar:
Web2Go seems to have stopped working on my phone some time today. I should be in subscription 'till later on though...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeburn:
so what do you guys plan to do? return the phone? upgrade your data plan? switch providers?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Berate any customer service rep until I get what I want!

Not really, I'll probably return the phone, and then use the upgrade and shell out the appropriate costs for monthly data. =/
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leyvatron:
Just wait it out a bit, people start to freak out and end up leaving too early. Maybe its just maintenance.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeburn:
I doubt its maintenance. If I take my SIM out of my NS and put it back in my N1, 3G works immediately.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
same problem, different thread. check out what the people are saying at howards forum:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...scuss-All-Related-Questions-Here-ONLY/page129

Some guy says that he was able to get the preferred unlimited internet plan for only $10(not web2go) from the loyalty department after his tzones stopped working. I tried calling and they said the cheapest they can give me for unlimited internet is $20 which is still too high for me
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeburn:
I just got a new NS at best buy. 3G still doesnt work out of box
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeytw24:
Same here, just bought a Nexus S today and internet isn't working with T-zones. Let me know if anything changes with anybody.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paullu:
I use 5.99 for years too today I just got my nexus s and data plan not working anymore but when I put sim card back to n1 it working fine what the xx:(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeburn:
I changed my data plan to the $20 preferred android plan
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imtiaz78:
This is really disappointing. My tzones worked for the first couple of days and I was luviingthe phone.it stooped working today.

My nexus S is going back. I will go back to using my iphone
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benjar:
OK panic over, Web2go is in fact still working. Must have been some problem earlier.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milkham:
how hard was it to get them to give you the preferred android plan? i've been a t-mo customer since 2002 you think that would help my case?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeburn:
really easy. I didn't even mention the $20 plan. I just said what plan can I change to and the Customer service rep suggested the $20 android plan and said I could change back to t-zones whenever I wanted.

I must say t-mobile has good customer service.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tommyz2kool:
web2 go is still down for me :-(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FastMhz:
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! We're dooom!!!

Maybe they cut off Nexus S customers to fix issues with blurry picture messages.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wetrobo:
still down for me. back to my nexus one for now :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imtiaz78:
Still down for me as well. What did you do to get tzones working?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ksc6000:
web to go not working for me. was working fine last night on my N1. Yet anther reason to get rid of this slight upgrade of a phone?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milkham:
damn i just called and the only options the lady gave me were the 30 dollar unlimited or the 15 dollar 200mb
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FastMhz:
Mention loyalty department I just changed mine for $20 unlimited Android internet
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milkham:
thank you! i called back and got on hold for retentions, i guess lots of people are calling, in and I told the CSR exactly what i wanted and she shuffled some papers, put me on hold and then told me I she put the change in for me.

how long did it take to go into effect? i think she said it would be up to 4 hours?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] annicus:
how did you get it to work?

anyone else replicate this??

i was on tzones on n-s for a couple hours yesterday with it working, and then it stopped working altogether. couldn't get ANYTHING, 3G or edge. got annoyed and reset the phone (since i had only started using it for a few hours)... stuck sim card back in e71 and it worked again. *sigh*
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodolfo7171:
ok so heres what found. i tried putting my sim back into our store demo and couldnt get anything. i also tried putting my sim in one that a customer returned and couldnt connect either. put my sim back into my x10 and it worked. so i guess i will not be upgrading to the NS... oh well.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] readerman:
I believe the issue occurs when T-Mobile's network identifies your device as a smart phone that is suppose to have a data plan. Notice that on the Android Market you have the option to install T-Mobile specific apps?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] annicus:
thank you for insider info!! as a side note, do you guys normally charge restocking fee for returns?

not true at all - there are so many examples of why not. one being - the n1 still reportedly works.

on a side note, i was wondering if they'll stop the n1 ever... perhaps when it gets gingerbread? i am now considering getting an n1 somehow...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leyvatron:
This sucks!!!!

I just paid full price for the Nexus S and T-zones isn't working but works perfect on my Nexus one.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] annicus:
happening to all of us.

maybe bestbuy will complain to tmobile when they start to get a whole bunch of customer returns... and tmobile will unblock it?

hehehe one can hope.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
all good things come to an end :( sorry guys
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
So the general consensus seems to be that Tzones/Web2go no longer functions on the Nexus S?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
it seems as if any grandfathered plan and any plan that isnt a smartphone/android data plan is no longer working.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nopple123:
THIS is IMEI filter

folks,

Relax. This is what is happening. T-mobile has the IMEI list of all nexus S phones sold in US. This is how they are able to detect that you are using nexus S and blocking web2go and T-zones.

So you guys have 3 options

Return it and go find a non-tmobile branded phone with tmobile 3G band ( only thing is see is a nokia !!!!)

Keep whatever you have for now ( iphone, nexus 1 etc for which t-mobile has IMEI in their database)

Get the preferred $20 android plan( u have to convince them)

OR

Change your nexus S IMEI and IT WILL WORK
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
Only device i have ever ever been able to change an IMEI number on was a Razer, care to share this amazing revelation :P
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nopple123:
I meant to say, 'Someone try to find a way to do change IMEI , and then it will work'.

There should be a way bcoz folks at galaxy tab forum are able to do so. Plz check the galaxy tab forum. The side-effects of changing IMEI may be market not working etc. I believe the way its done is to mess around with /efs directory which has IMEI info. Not sure if that same process can be used for nexus S.

t-zones or web2go is not blocked. I have it using on my iphone for long.

Its just that samsung-Google have provided the IMEI list to t-mobile and they are blocking the way they are supposed to. Obviously they didnt do this with nexus one.

I was gonna purchase nexus S at full retail to use with my t-zones but glad I waited. No point in paying retail if we have to use $30 or $20 plans.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
The hd7 and hd2 (windows phones) work on tzones. I upgraded from the hd2 to an hd7 last month. when i put my sim in the hd7, internet starts working again but stops when i switch to the nexus s.

Even when the hd2 is running android, tzones still works.

But yeah, im in the same boat as everyone else with the NS
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Just a heads up to you guys, imei spoofing is highly illegal in the states. The mods here are not very tolerant of said funny business.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
^this

+10 characters
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benjar:
Well nothing much actually. I was still within my day subscription period which expired at 20:30. All I could get was the upsell page telling me to upgrade my plan.

When 8:30 rolled around I checked the subscription status on http://wap.t-zones.com and sure enough my then non-functioning $1.49 web2go had expired.

I gave it another go and bought another web2go day pass and after a brief disconnection from the data network (presumably to update the data subscription status) I was on and working again.

Touch wood it is still working as of nearly a day later.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahfpired:
No it will not work!

I bought a full price Nexus S (the launch day) and I was using it with my T-zones plan. After a couple of days it stopped working, I had to restart my phone so the data could work. After a Week, it died... no restart, no network refresh, no different apns... anything made it work! I returned it today and go back to my galaxy i7500... I sold my Nexus One to buy the Nexus S! Duff luck! (Duff Man @TheSimpsons).

Don't know what to do... :( I love the Nexus S...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacksonj51:
Called TMO today and chatted with their loyalty staff and told them my story and they did indeed offer me up their 'android unlimited data' plan for $20. Yes its less than $30 but still more than my current $10 data plan.....

So I declined the offer for now because I still hold hope for a solution but since they have all the Nexus S IMEI #'s its not looking good
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leyvatron:
Same here. I dropped my grandfather t-zones plan for the "even more plan." They don't offer it but I asked them for it.

$59.99 - 500 minutes - unlimited text and data. Google voice = unlimited minutes.

I'm back and running on my Nexus S.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
they dont offer it online, but they offer it in store and over the phone :)

and probable reason the Tzones hack doesnt work anymore is the fact that judging by my phone call with a Engineer at tmobile about an unrelated issue, they do frequent this forum
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjpetrozelli:
As stated above I hope that they do frequent this forum. Changing the IMEI may be illegal, but it would seem just as illegal to change the terms of "contract" due to the fact that they do not deem $5.99-$10 enough for data. As opposed to an actual incompatibility between device and network. I have had Tmo for 11 years, I have been happy for most of them. Yet, I do not know of many other instances where a carrier so fervently (if ever) forced its customers to update from a grandfathered in voice, data, or other service. As I see it I have been with them long enough to justify paying 10 bucks a month for data.

Whatever I will just switch carriers, I would rather pay 25 a month for data on an iPhone, especially considering where I work and live Tmo doesn't have 3g. :mad:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
ATT not only will upgrade your dumbphone data plan to a "smartphone" plan but will ALSO add it on automatically if they see you are using an iphone or a smartphone without any data plan. seems more strict than tmobile
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjpetrozelli:
I do not know how many countless friends I had using the unlocked 2g on AT&T's prepaid voice and data when it came out. And never with an issue. But hey what do I know.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
obviously if you have an unlocked phone you can use it on any gsm carrier. you should at least know that. in addition, att will force its iphone users to add a compatible data plan regardless if you have one or not.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjpetrozelli:
People unlocked iPhones at the time FOR AT&T so that they could get data at a lesser rate. If you recall there was a separate rate plan for the phones which was proprietary to Apple iPhone. Thus by doing so they were able to get their phones on prepaid or on 10/month data as opposed to the AT&T alternative. I am a "noob" here and I know this.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
Yep back them it was possible. However if att sees youre using an iPhone now on their network without the right data plan they'll add it on. Can't get by this anymore. Doesn't matter if your iPhone is locked or unlocked as long as its still on att they can see the imei number. Att isn't as stupid as you think they are.

Either you choose to believe me or not I don't really care. you're free to do what you want. I mean I'm only getting this information from personal experience with my 3g and iphone 4 as well as the numerous forums where people have stated thatt att forced them to add data plans on their iPhones. A Google search regarding this should be enough to relieve you of your ignorance.

Bottom line is, don't be cheap and just pay 20-30 for the right data for your phone. If it's an android phone get the android data plan. If you are upset then don't pay but at least stop whining about how Tmobile screwed you out of your 5.99 tzones.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] i23mix:
Just got my phone a couple hours ago. The web2go was working for a while. Then it just stopped working and the browser redirected me to the upgrade subscription page :( Tried different APNs but to no avail. Looks like it's going back. It was such a nice phone too.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j2l84u:
Well said. People just need to realize that tzones couldnt have lasted forever. Its unfortunate but inevitable.

Also I have to agree with you on AT&T's data policy. A lot of people have reported not just iPhones but any smartphone getting forced into a data plan. The imei number gives away your phones identity and ATT is keen on making sure youre paying for each phone's required services.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
http://www.tipb.com/2009/05/29/warning-att-noniphone-data-customers/

http://www.sinfuliphone.com/showthread.php?t=1407

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/02/...phones-even-unlocked-ones-onto-smartphone-da/
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjpetrozelli:
First of all when you spend approximately $15k in tmobile service please lecture me on what a good deal is.

Actually I am sort of in the right place; considering this thread is for people with nexus s specifically regarding the tzones plan (though web2go is essentially the same) if you want to consider it whining please go ahead. I do not consider choosing an N1 or other viable option for tzones ignorant.

For the record ignorance could be defined as those who purchase a fad phone every 3 months, but a simple self search would have provided you that revelation.

So here, let me give you a second "thanks" for being an insipid fool.

Feel better?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
I just prove you wrong three times regarding att data policies and this is my thanks? Nothing else to say for that I see.

Ignorant and stubborn you are. Your attacks are baseless and there's no point in mentioning that you spent 15k on Tmobile. What's the point?. Its known that tzones doesn't work for nexus s anymore. People don't want to read about how Tmobile cheated you out of your 5.99 internet plan that you've had for oh so long. Sue them if you like for all I care.

I was merely attempting to help you avoid the same forced data policy on att. In the end you were just so not worth it. Enjoy your ignorance
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j2l84u:
Seriously, just calm down. Why are you calling him a fool when hes trying to help you decide if att is the right choice depending on your situation.

And yes this thread is about tzones but its clear its not working anymore so what else is left to say?. just to be clear no one is saying you wanting to use tzones on the n1 is ignorant.

I suggest we close this thread due to the course its taking.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacksonj51:
Great... in an Android forum discussing the Nexus S and we're getting advice from Icoooooners
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gasanpride:
I am contemplating to buy one myself today at full price but upon reading the Tzones issue connecting I am not sure now if I am going to buy one. Perhaps I wait for the Dell Venue Pro or go for HD7 instead.

But questions for those who are affected - Is there any option in Nexus S to be configured so you culd add the old nternet proxy 216.155.165.50:8080? I hope you guys remember it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravidavi:
Yes you can enter it. I tried, but still no go. As of today, at least in Indiana, I cannot get my brand spankin new Nexus S to go online with my grandfathered $10 smartphone internet plan (using either epc, internet2, or wap apns with or without the old-azz proxy trick).
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ruprick:
I have in my hand a Venue Pro and Nexus S. Venue Pro is not working on web2go (and I suspect t-zones) either. Apples to oranges, I know, but the Venue Pro is going back to Dell. Love the Nexus S.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wick3d-G:
As of 12/24, it looks like the Nexus S although not sold directly by T-mobile is in the same category as T-mobile branded phones now since Samsung has given T-mobile all the IMEI's for the Nexus S. T-zones/web2go plans WILL NOT work with it anymore and you will be directed to the upsell page. :mad:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Yup, spoke with another rep that basically said they are blocking ALL phones they can identify from using web 2 go / t-zones. They know I'm using an n1 on my account as they mentioned it in passing(still working however).

I tried to get them to throw in the $20 android plan and no go. Near the end of the conversation he tried to remove the $10 plan from the account anyways.

Still not sure what I'm gonna do, trying to weigh between paying the appropriate data fee ($15 or $30) or returning the phone and rebuying it subsidized with the $10 / $30 that BB offers.

If I do the former, I can still cash in on a future upgrades (possiblly that LG star and turn a profit). Shoulda have jumped on the free G2 deal that happened a few days ago.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
Im not saying you guys should have expected this eventually.....but...you guys should have expected this eventually.

You may as well just upgrade you plans, em+ 500 minutes, unlimited texting and "unlimited internet 60 bucks
[General Questions and Answers] sastreen:
i rooted my phone, and tried to install a zip file, but it wont reboot. previously, i would just factory reset and it would work but now it doesn't. sometimes i don't even get into the recovery. i have clockwork recovery. i was thinking of flashing a new rom and then factory reset, reboot. is this a good idea?

all help is appreciated.
[myTouch 4G General] larryg2k3:
When I first got the phone it seemed like I could lock on in about a minute. Tried to use the GPS the other day and after it searched for a few minutes in the car I just turned it off. Very frustrating... What are you guys experiencing?

I am on stock rom, rooted, gorilla v05 OC kernel.
[myTouch 4G General] vw671:
Are you moving when you were trying to get a lock? When your moving it takes much longer to get a lock, this is true even with dedicated GPS units. Having said that my MT4G takes about 10-15secs to lock outside not moving, very nice coming from a Galaxy S which couldn't lock or track to save it's life. To many variables if moving to make a good comparison in GPS performance.
[myTouch 4G General] pack:
mine locks in seconds... love it after the vibrant lol
[myTouch 4G General] larryg2k3:
Yes, I have tried while walking and while in the car. Just tried to put the phone up to the window of my apartment for several minutes with no luck. I will try to stand still outside tomorrow.