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[myTouch 4G Accessories] Jon C:
I updated the review a little bit. Not only does the dock block the volume keys, but it blocks the lock button and the 3.5mm out.

To answer your question: No, there is no speaker on the dock, simply a 3.5mm out.

Also, I need to stress how annoyingly difficult it is to actually seat the phone. The dock feels like it was engineered back when the phone was called the 'myTouch HD', and probably had slightly different dimensions (much like the gel cases, which do not fit exactly).

I really have to jam the phone hard against the back of the dock, to line up the USB port. I could easily see the USB port getting damaged from repeated 'misses'. The stupid little USB connector actually put a nice little dent into the side of my soft-touch paint. :mad:

Man, how the **** do you mess this up? What a letdown.

Sadly, guys, I don't think we're going to get anything better. That said, I'm really thinking about taking this thing back, based on how impossibly hard it is to even get the phone in there to begin with.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] mountainboy:
Jeez! Yeah I would take that thing back for sure. That really sucks that the stupid thing dented the side of your phone! They should give you something cool for free ;p...I'm just sayin...

Sent from mytouch 4G using Tapatalk
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Jon C:
Normally, my OCD would require that I swap out my current phone for another one. However, with all of the bull**** with the variances in screen quality and so forth, I'd rather not push my luck. Plus, the reps at all of the T-Mo stores around here are kind of pushy / annoying and get angry when you want to swap out phones.

Still, I am pissed. Super lame, T-Mo and HTC. What the hell were you idiots thinking?

I hope a third-party makes a dock with pin support. Odds of that happening? Slim-to-none. :(
[myTouch 4G Accessories] mountainboy:
Yeah, I can understand the ocd thing lol! You do have a very sad but true point about a new hit or miss phone. Just to clarify though, who is the manufacturer of the dock- HTC or tmo? You would think that they would come out with some kind of dock to utilize those contacts on the side of the phone.

Sent from myTouch 4G using XDA app
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Jon C:
No mention of manufacturer on the cardboard package or the piece of toilet paper they call a manual. It is 100% T-Mobile-branded, but it doesn't say that it is manufactured by them in any way. It simply says 'Made in China', though some other forum poster claims that HTC stopped by his retail store to show off the dock a few weeks ago.

The branding is the same as all of T-Mo's branded accessories: stark white with annoying lettering and T-Mo badges all over.

Either way, it sucks, and this is a huge letdown. I'm glad that these pointless docking pins swayed me towards signing a two-year contract with this device. :rolleyes:

Rage. Rage. Rage. :mad:

I'm just so annoyed that we probably won't ever get to use the docking function of the phone. So stupid...
[myTouch 4G Accessories] kitsunisan:
Wow, you just talked me out of buying this. Hopefully something better comes out soon.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Tatdude806:
This Dock Blows...

I bought the dock last night in Lubbock. (My store had 3 of them) It was very hard to pull my phone out, hard to put in, and for $50 you couldn't include another cable. No way to use the 3.5" jack, as I am not a big bluetooth person. I know a TMO store that will be getting one back. I will wait for something better...
[myTouch 4G Accessories] mountainboy:
Well, it looks like we will have to keep waiting- I am sure that if HTC made this phone with the contacts on the side, then they will EVENTUALLY make docks to utilize them. Hurry up and wait, right?!?! I'll be keeping my eyes open for a dock with HTC branding on it somewhere. I hope Tmo doesn't give you guys any flack when/if you return your docks.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] nephroid:
T-Mobile Desktop Dock

Angry nephroid is angry. :mad:
[myTouch 4G Accessories] RikF:
I'm a little confused by the description here. Am I interpreting this correctly when I read that the phone charges through the USB port, but connects to the dock via bluetooth, meaning that the 3.5mm output jack on the dock is actually providing not a line out, but a bluetooth garbled connection to the phone?
[myTouch 4G Accessories] markimar:
Well how stupid is that? Why put the pins there if the oem dock doesn't use them? That's the one thing I dislike about the mytouch 4g is putting the usb on the side ! Should be on the bottom very hard to use when its plugged in.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] student.driver:
I imagine the pins are there simply for high-amperage charging. The Nexus One I had would discharge really quickly when in navigation mode, but when I got the car dock it could actually charge quicker than the phone would discharge. The dock's power connection was rated for 2 amps, so I just figured that was the real point of the pins.

The pin connections were OK in the car dock, but they routinely got knocked loose on the desk dock with a slight movement. In this case, I think it's OK to use the microUSB connector so it doesn't bug me.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Jon C:
Yes, it doesn't bug you until you realize that the plastic 'cup' that holds the phone into the dock is not cut properly to fit the device, causing you to jimmy in your $500 phone and scrape the USB area to ****.

I'm almost convinced that the biggest part of the problem is that they designed the dock around an old build model of the myTouch 4G (back when it was the 'myTouch HD') and never updated their design to fit the contours of the current phone.

@RikF: Correct. It sends audio over garbled BT radio frequencies that are severely distorted and crappy-sounding. The 3.5mm jack on the phone is covered by the side of the 'cup', as is the lock button. Kind of a stupid design, really.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] RikF:
Thanks for that. It seems like what they have here is a BT audio adapter which they have weirdly added a dock to. Fine if you want to pipe crappy audio from around the house, useless as an actual dock. Ah well, there must surely be a non-BT (and thus far less expensive) dock in the pipeline.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] pdxrealtor:
Any news of a nightstand type dock that uses the pins?
[myTouch 4G Accessories] :
It is also really hard to actually dock the device the usb socket seems to close to where the dock wall is at
[myTouch 4G Accessories] surfnhawaii808:
It looks like a cheap piece of ---- to me.... would never pay $50 for it as it looks now....

http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)

Aloha from beautiful Hawaii
[myTouch 4G Accessories] beelbeel:
I had posted a thread about this in mytouch general, but I had not realized that this accessories forum was here. There is a stand out there called the ezestand (google it, I can't post links) that claims to be a semi-universal phone stand. I think it could be a decent stand for the mytouch, but I am concerned that the support part of the stand will block the usb port on the mytouch 4g. In the faq section of the site, the seller mentiones that the HTC Droid Incredible is not quite compatible with the stand, due to the placement of the USB port. Do any of you have any thoughts? It is a pretty cheap solution, but it might be too good to be true.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] tackleberry:
im bummed that the pins are not used. i was about to jump on this item and buy one til i read about it. i despise using these micro usb plugs daily, im afraid they will wear out in less than a year under daily use.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] student.driver:
If it makes you feel any better, I plugged in my Nexus One around a dozen times a day during weekdays for 10 months and it was still snug when I sold it for my G2. I love the design and strength of this connector. Now the mini-USB connector seemed to loosen up slightly on my Dash when I had it but my other mini-USB devices were fine.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] psxboy:
I wouldn't worry about it. The micro usb plug design is rated for at least 10,000 connect-disconnect cycles. That's over 27 years if you only plug it in once a day.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] f231f:
The plug might be, but the soldering isn't
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Tatdude806:
Whoever wrote that review was paid by TMO for it. This is the worst accessory ever!!!
[myTouch 4G Accessories] BeEazy10:
Wow rather buy two of these http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-Univers...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1 then 1 one those
[myTouch 4G Accessories] beelbeel:
I think I would rather buy one of these than one of those or one of the official docks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cradle-Sync-Doc...844793?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item483e5bbcb9
[myTouch 4G Accessories] tackleberry:
thats my concern....
[myTouch 4G Accessories] BeEazy10:
i went to the t-mobile store yesterday to look at this dock... i opened the box and shoved it right back in
[myTouch 4G Accessories] 808HD2:
The dock in my opinion, since I boight it and use it, is well built.. The downside of it is that there was no pins, thats why I modded mines, and also the bluetooth is jus media streaming, you have to take the phone off the dock to answer it...

But other than that, the dock does what its made for...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IMP:
Just got a G1 off of evilbay.

When I connect it to the PC with the usb lead XP says 'device not recognised'.

Any idea whats going wrong and how to fix it?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fleity:
which winxp version are you using? i never managed to connect my g1 to xp64...

you might need to manually install the usb drivers which come with the android sdk
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IMP:
XP32, SP3.

Got a link for the drivers?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhkr123:
That's a GOOD thing.... protect a good phone from a HORRIBLE virus.

Try linux. No weird drivers needed and no risk of damage.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IMP:
Can't go on to linux full time, it doesn't support the games I play.

And the XP emulators are not a solution either, unless they have finally started to support 3D graphics?

If that is the only solution maybe I should have gone for a blackberry after all.

Will it work with the Ubuntu live CD?

Or the run from USB drive under XP version?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] felix1234:
Make sure you have a good, thick USB cable. My G1 doesn't want to work with the first two USB cables I tried.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IMP:
That was the first thing I thought of :)

Tried all 7 of mine, all react the same.

Also tried the project machine, initially found it, then after about 10 seconds came up with the unrecognised device :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Are you trying to mount the SD card or use adb/fastboot?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IMP:
Am trying to get to the SD card.

Found my microSD card reader so can copy stuff over that way now.

Would be nice to connect properly tho.

It's away for a week now, being fixed and rooted :)

It is my humble opinion that my local phone guy is a genius (and well into android).
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhkr123:
Livecd is fine.

Dualboot is better.

Clear the virus is best.

Games? Games are for kids. Hacking is more fun.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Excuse the retards, they run rampant around these parts :D

Find attached all the drivers you will need, any further help just ask me :)

And here is a link to get the sdk if you want it...

http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[Epic 4G General] bobdude5:
assuming this is true

http://phandroid.com/2010/12/08/samsung-on-galaxy-s-gingerbread-possibility-maybe-but-maybe-not/

There standpoint on Gingerbread for their flagship phone, basically a big F U to their customers

are you kidding me..its the same damn device (EDIT: as in the other galaxy s phones)
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
While I am not siding with them - they really aren't the same devices. If they were we could easily port vibrant and captivate roms. There is clearly work that has to go into each variant of the SGS line. It would probably make the LEAST amount of sense for the Epic to not get 2.3 officially. Primarily because of its 4g Radio and Front Cam - features that the others lack- even though our device is probably the most complicated to get working right.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Dont forget landscape mode for the keyboard, led light too....

Well oh well eventually we will get gingerbread on our devices and if not im sure ill have a new phone next year anyway so froyo will hold me over til then...
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
In my opinion this is a conflicting report with what that one leak tweeter/w/e he was said. Samsung didn't say no, they basically said "Um, well, uh maybe?" so it has, at least in mind, just as little credibility as some guy saying we were getting it. Just have to wait and see.
[Epic 4G General] spdwiz18:
This will help....

http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread

this is conflicting
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Here we go with the rumors just like the date of the release of the epic....
[Epic 4G General] spdwiz18:
i agree it all is still rumor, but it doesnt hurt to have some hope...

merry christmas
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Having hope means you can either be:

Hope for X

1) Let down horribly - No X

or

2) Content - X

Having no hope means you can be:

1) Pleasantly surprised - X

or

2) Content - No X

Hope is stupid. Its math.
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kern...ng.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/2.6.35-samsung

samsung already created a gingerbread kernel 2.6.35...
[Epic 4G General] spdwiz18:
wow.... thats optimism for you...
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
Likely for the nexus s?
[Epic 4G General] bobdude5:
But its not only our device. Theyre talking about their whole galaxy s line. Samsung says we will think about it, while htc says we're working on it.

I love my phone but damn you samsung. If only htc had super amoled screens, and put decent camera sensors in their phones..I'm really considering that HTC Knight
[Epic 4G General] live2ride96:
This may very well be the last straw that makes me sell my Epic. While I realize that Samsung doesn't owe me anything, until people quit buying their phones, they'll keep jerking us around. HTC, here I come.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
LOL. I thought it would at least be a few days after Froyo's release before we got these posts about Gingerbread.
[Epic 4G General] mikkodd:
lol trading my epic for an evo this weekend!
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
I have 2 people wanting to trade their Evo for my epic. Samsung doesn't support their products as well as HTC, and it sucks. For some reason, I think they would rather put out new phones with Gingerbread and make you buy the, than give you an upgrade.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Uh, Let me take a wild guess. Could it be . . . . . . for PROFIT??
[Epic 4G General] SkitchBeatz:
I like the confidence of this link
[Epic 4G General] ksweat2292:
ill never buy samsung again
[Epic 4G General] live2ride96:
Yes, yes, for profit. We all get that they're in the business of selling phones, not giving free updates. That's why I read an interesting blog about paying for OS updates a little while back. I'd gladly pay a few bucks to get honeycomb or ice cream on a 6 month to year old phone and to have them out in a timely fashion. Then Samsung and all the other manufacturers would have an incentive to actually put out updates for phones as well.
[Epic 4G General] spdwiz18:
+10 i would support this idea>
[Epic 4G General] adamw1101:
Guys! Calm the freak down. There is no yes or no stated in this statement. Who ever started todd thread must have been pms-ing. This looks like it came from korea and my wife is korean do I have some insight. One thing you have to realize that koreans tend to say things in a negative tone at all time. yes is no for them. in my opinion this load like we are getting gingerbread at some point and the are running interference.
[Epic 4G General] Geekybiker:
I read it as "we can neither confirm nor deny gingerbread on galaxy s devices." That often means "we are working on it , but can't commit to it."
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Ice Cream?! WTF?! When is it coming to our phone?!?! I want it NOW! I deserve it and Samsung had better have it out on my Epic ASAP. If they don't give it to me in the next two months, I'll never buy Samsung again!

(Am I doing it right?)
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Just as a note the samsung india twitter confirmed that that arm will be releasing gingerbread on sgs.
[Epic 4G General] petrafan007:
um...can't someone just make a gingerbread rom for the epic? then who would care what is "officially" released?
[Epic 4G General] live2ride96:
Well, I prefer not to HAVE to flash other roms on my phone. Doesn't mean I don't or won't do it, but I do it because it's a better choice, not the only choice. So to some people, an official rom does matter, if only out of principal. I know we're not ENTITLED to updates, but that's where they whole pay thing comes in. Paying for updates is better than not getting them at all. And that especially goes for the general public. For 90+% of people, the **** that goes on here at xda is WAY, WAY over their heads.
[Epic 4G General] goddimus:
Just remember that Phandroid was the website that came out and said the Froyo leak was an official release from Sprint so perhaps their "rumors" aren't all that reliable.
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
"Update: And now, in typical Samsung fashion, we're getting mixed messages as its Indian mobile arm has come out and confirmed that "Gingerbread will be available to Galaxy S users." Thanks, Shrinikketh!"

Source:

Engadget Article
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
I could get behind the paying for an upgrade bandwagon. I mean 5 bucks to have Gingerbread on the phone or something like that? Wouldn't even hesitate. And it would also mean at least a couple million dollars flowing into Samsung for their troubles. The way it currently is, there is little to no incentive for manufacturers to provide multiple free upgrades, other than brand loyalty. But with the sheer number of Android devices, brand loyalty is a lot less profound than it usually is.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
JEEZ Samsung sounds more unorganized then sprint is with there release date of the epic, samsung says maybe or no earlier to upgrading to gingerbread then there other twitter says its going to galaxy s.. annoying great way to start up rumors and watch as they flood all blogs/twitter and what not... Damn u samsung!!!
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Its important to note that what happens with Samsung India is not necessarily going to happen for us, its a good indicator but its by no means a guarantee
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
I know, epecially when its saying it is for the original galaxy s not the series...
[Epic 4G General] dmarden:
I really don't care about Gingerbread on the Epic. I feel confident that by the time it would be ready, I will already have used my yearly device upgrade and will be on another device.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Yes me too, i mean we have a great phone already that meets all my needs, i came from the TP2 and after about 6months of using it/flashing different roms always waiting for mighty roms to make it better i wanted to throw it at the wall for being slow boring (lack of apps) one thing i did like on it after 6 months still was the tilting screen for watching movies and mighty roms to make it better.

However GB would be nice to have, honestly its nice to hope then again i love my phone and im on stock rom so i can have mobile ap and it works great on stock!!! Froyo will only make it better experience, and yes in a year or 2 will will have dual core proccesors most likely and then ill probaly upgrade, so its not that big of a deal. Just a nice gesture.
[Epic 4G General] SkitchBeatz:
Id say brand loyalty is very important in this market... especially because manufacturers are differentiating android on their phones. Personally I like touchwiz because of the features it provides without being too intrusive but if samsung is not going go support their phones as well as other manufacturers then I will probably switch come next upgrade time. I know several people who love Sense and wouldn't buy a phone without it.

Sent from my Captivate (Perception)
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Why do we need to jump to everything? did HTC confirm putting Gignerbread on their phones? did Motorola confirm putting Gingerbread on their phones? Did LG or Sanyo?

Samsung just effectively states they will neither confirm or deny it...that is what most companies say...
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Pretty sure I heard word that HTC was working on it as well as Moto.
[Epic 4G General] bobdude5:
motorola and htc did
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Also lg tried to lie and claim the optimus line didn't meet the requirements for gb but got called out by google devs. Was rather funny.
[Epic 4G General] ungovernable1977:
You made my day, thank you. Entitlement is gross... I can see if you've never dealt with sprint or sammy before, but they're just like every other CE company... its not real till its in your hand. And I agree, sounds like nobody at samsung wants to (or can be) too specific..... well duh. I was going to wait to buy my epic when I went in launch week and was promised OTA two weeks later, having had the moment for a minute just before, I knew it would be a wait, but the phone is worth it, awesome specs... we just need to be patient and the fine cooks will make this thing blow all else out of the water.
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Except, you know, for the whole part of Samsung India saying it is coming to their phones. But ya I guess they don't count.
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
I laugh. I just laugh. Hard, belly-laugh.

Threads like this are so ironic.

Do many of the people posting their complaints here realized that it is precisely because of people like them that Samsung will not ever, EVER, share any information on possibilities, let alone release decisions, with the public?

These people demonstrate, conclusively, the sh!tstorm that would follow with any schedule slip or cancellation (due to well-considered business circumstances) of any thinking or decisions shared in advance. Real damage to their business would result.

Much more than a few wet-diaper whiners that won't buy their phones again because of... you read it all above for yourself.

Act like children, get treated like children. It's that simple. While I hold honesty in very high esteem, there are things I simply don't share with my children, because they aren't mature enough to handle it.

Threads like this just make the case for why Samsung, and other manufacturers, won't be more open with their customers.
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Except that there are a lot of people, myself included, have provided thoughtful intelligent evidence and discussion. Thanks for calling us all children.
[Epic 4G General] Kcarpenter:
People who don't understand software development shouldn't ***** and moan about "when". The development cycles for software are insane and only get wrse the bigger the company is and the more developers who have their hand in the source. Its complicated, long, tetious and grossly time consuming. Especially when your reputation is on the line. There is a reason we (software developers, including my self) avoid all dates that we possibly can. Things never go as planned, thoughts and ideas change from hour to hour. And when its "done" we still aren't satisfied. Dates are also avoided since it can affect stock prices, also known as insider trading....a serious crime in all countries that have a public market.
[Epic 4G General] deano0714:
Well my thought is that if india gets it we are to... and I would be willing to pay $5-10 for an upgrad I mean who wouldnt , eather way we will get gingerbread tho official or not.
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
Yea LG has since came back and said that all Optimus One variants will be getting GB since there is no processor limitation. Sammy needs to follow suit since moto, htc, and now lg have announced it.

Sent from my shoe, I mean....Epic shoe... I mean Samsung Epic!
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Ya I read that on engadget a bit ago. I "lol'd" at LG fail.