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[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Personally, I think it's just another plain-Jane Galaxy S phone. It has the same horrid, cheap, plasticy feeling apparently, and the specs are nothing out of the ordinary. No dual-core processor or anything exciting. I cannot wait for HTC's next offering, because their build quality is sooo superior to Samsung's, and it will most likely have the new dual-core processors.
[EVO 4G General] illmaticone:
i love it, i want it.

however i dont want tmobile nor at&t
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
I must say it looks quite nice in person. My friend works for google and showed me his Nexus S.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Oh, no doubt that it is a "pretty" device, but I actually use my phone instead of spending the day gawking at it. I don't want to pay $500 for something only to have it feel like cheap plastic.
[EVO 4G General] m4rk0358:
I didn't feel that it felt any better or worse to my EVO with regards to how cheap it felt. They both seem a bit "plasticky" for my taste.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
You won't see dual cores from HTC until we near the summer. Samsung is actually probably the closest.

As for the Nexus S. I think it's alright, nothing revolutionary but I'd still consider it the best phone on the Market the day it's released. The Hummingbird is the current undisputed champ in the mobile CPU/GPU game. A 4" SAMOLED is near the top, better display than the EVO's at least. NFC chip + Gyroscope. The cameras on the Galaxy S are currently the best on any Android phone so the Nexus S shouldn't be any different. I also believe that the GPS chip was replaced so no SGS GPS horror show. So hardware wise it's not a huge leap but only a (very) small evolutionary step forward from what was the top spec'd Android phone.

Build is 50/50, I think this is a slick looking shape. Very thin, some nice curves but the plastic is a step down from the Nexus X. That said, our EVOs are pretty much 100% plastic as well so who am I to judge.

The big thing though is quick, straight from Google, Android updates; and that pretty much puts it on top of any Android phone IMO.
[EVO 4G General] dglowe343:
+1

Sent from my HTC SUPERSONIC
[EVO 4G General] tejasrichard:
I have yet to see a samsung device I was impressed with. The galaxy looked nice til I held one. I'll wait for HTC's next release....though, I do wish they would release one with straight Android on it, and no sense overlay, so that we could get our updates straight from google.
[EVO 4G General] david279:
i kinda like it but it has a average processor and doesnt have HSPA+.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
looks cheap and i think there is no SDCARD support ? if so that's a deal breaker for me
[EVO 4G General] david279:
www.google.com/nexus

no sdcard kinda sucks but it has 16GB built in.
[EVO 4G General] david279:
ok just found out it doesnt have any notification LEDs. i dont understand that.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
well i would never get it, I have been trying to root my girls epic and with custom recovery for ages( finally got it last night) hacking on samsung is not that fun

Also does has the CM team ever done a sammy phone that will be a sign if one of us on the fence people would want to get one

Also GPS on the my girls epic is horrid at most times, Wonder if google who is big into location based- services is going to like not getting a lot of data back on their flagship phone
[EVO 4G General] illmaticone:
whoa whoa whoa hollllld up.... For real?? If this is true i just lost all interest in it lol i was using HSPA+ & Pure Google as my motivation...

:x it is true, not that i doubted you but i really was hoping you were wrong lol.
[EVO 4G General] gqstatus0685:
I guess my Evo having light leakage is considered superior build quality. Anyway I wouldn't buy any phone with the name Samsung attached to it. I wouldn't even buy a Samsung toaster for my kitchen with my past experiences.

I'd still get an HTC device as my next phone so we'll see how it goes.
[EVO 4G General] jm5503:
No micro SD???
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
Don't really need a CM team for nexus s. It is stock. Same as N1. Will be what rooting and everything is based on from 2.3 and on.

Also as far as gps issues and any issues go, everything will be updated through google, not samsung. The only reason I hated epic and any of the samsung phones was the updates, Samsung is just ****ty when it comes to updates. But this changes that, everything will be done through google.

Tbh, the phone is 10x better then evo. Hardware wise and software wise. Nexus S will become the standard of rooting and any mods, just like N1 did. The cpu/gpu is better, the camera is better, the screen is better, its smaller in weight and size (the only part that sucks is that its 4.0, and not 4.3).

All in all it's a better phone when it comes to hardware, and the software is backed by google.
[EVO 4G General] jm5503:
Wait...no 720p recording? Ill pass....
[EVO 4G General] david279:
Not having HSPA+ is crazy though. HSPA only goes up to 7.2 and thats peak. HSPA+ has the potential of 20 at its peak and maybe more with a software update. Maybe thats why it get 17 DAYS STANDBY. I still kinda want one though.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:


so a new flagship phone has better hardware than evo........also if cm is not needed then why do people use it anyways, and im talking about us here aroind xda
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
CM is basically stock (which the Nexus S has/is) with some added features. Even then, CM is always a month or two late in relation to the actual release of a new Android update which the Nexus S would get immediately.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
Im not the least bit impressed with it. No sdcard, no HSPA+ and samsung...
[EVO 4G General] BB15:
It looks nice, but hardware-wise it's a bit of a let down. I think if a new device is being released as a "dev phone" it should set the bar as far as hardware goes, not just be on par with the current generation of devices. The Nexus S will be outdated in 6 months.
[EVO 4G General] booyakasha:
Check the Google site, it does 720p
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
Exactly, why bother flashing CM which is pretty much what the stock android is, when you can just install the added apk files, and maybe flash a theme if you wanted to.
[EVO 4G General] jkinnison90:
Not very impressive..
[EVO 4G General] Hot_Hands:
It's garbage. No external storage. No notification LEDs. Stuck on T-Mobiles **** network. Cheap plasticy Samsung build. VGA front cam vs SXGA on the EVO. No 720p recording. Zzzzzz.
[EVO 4G General] Sirchuk:
I has the credit card thingy in it though right? That allows 2.3 to run credit cards by swiping your phone..you know, something that no store in the US yet accepts..?

Other than that, I'm not giving up my EVO.

Honestly, no other android device comes close to my EVO
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
It has 16gb of storage, same amount as your phone. Also its unlocked, working on any sim card, not just tmobile. And the front camera is 10x better and clearer then evo.

Also who cares about 720p when it records smoother and better then evo which HAS 720p?

You people need to do some research before talking.

@Sirchuck, there are ****load of processors that accept it in dallas area. + it's a added feature, not like it was built around that thing.
[EVO 4G General] Hot_Hands:
Done plenty of research, thanks. How the hell do you know how much memory my phone has? The Nexus S has 1/2 the amount of storage my EVO has at the moment. Sure it works with any SIM card, if you enjoy 2G speeds on any network other than T-Mobile. And I've never had a good impression from a Galaxy S phones FFC so I'd really like to know where you get off saying it has a better FFC.
[EVO 4G General] dabezt1:
If it was 4.3 id be all over it
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
I rest my case with what you just said.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Well actually... my evo has 32 gigs of storage... carry on.
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
I was thinking about getting one to work with but not having external storage is a deal breaker. Give it 16gb internal with an sd slot and your golden but I refuse to buy a phone that you can't change memory cards in.

It's a good looking phone but thats it.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
samcrap makes **** phones

i can tether with my evo just fine

my battery last all day

sorry imho . the Nexus S looks like the Epic with no slide out keyboard looks cheap plastic
[EVO 4G General] Samzebian:
Galaxy S is basically the nexus s. It's got the same cpu, gpu, ram, screen, cameras, and design theme.

He is probably referring to it not having 3g for AT&T.

4g useless? Much faster than the HSDPA on the nexus, it doesn't even support hsdpa+. Not only CAN I tether with 4g officially, I may also do it with free wifi tethering apps. BTW The i7 laptop I'm currently typing this on barely lasts 2 hours. Evo with 4g lasts a lot longer than that.

OH AND YOU DID

NOT

JUST TALK CRAP ABOUT THE EVO'S CAMERA!

That thing is F*%$ING AMAZING! I use it ALL THE TIME and it is simply the best phone camera I've ever used, and I've used both the iPhone 4's and Galaxy S's (which is identical to the Nexus S's)

Better than HTC in terms of quality? Really? The nexus S is all plasticy while the evo at least has that nice soft touch to it. Not only that, but HTC makes some solid phones made from aluminum.

Considering the Evo still has the awesome 8mp camera, 4.3" screen, super bright dual-led flash, HDMI out, a kickstand, awesome development community and not to mention 4G!!!

I'd much rather have that than NFC, which I would barely be able to use right now! OH, AND WOW, I JUST LOVE BEING STUCK TO 16GB of INTERNAL MEMORY! I currently use a 32GB card in my evo, so I couldn't even consider Nexus S.

What else does the Nexus S have, a gyro? Cool. it's maybe used in 10 apps right now, why should I care??

Google, go back to the drawing board with HTC on the Gingerbread release phone, and come out with something kick-ass! Like the Nexus one!

/end rant
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
evo fans itt. Can't even admit a better phone came out.

1. You can't tether on 4g. Either you are using some super mod that no one knows about, but you can check for yourself. go through all the threads about people posting on how they get 3g speeds tethering on 4g.

2. stop calling bull**** about the battery. With 4g on, the batter barely lasts 3-4 hours.

3. so apparently since it doesnt support hspa+, it automatically means it doesnt support 3g on at&t. good call.

4. Lol @ the camera crap. Again stop looking at it as "its decent" when nexus S contains what IS decent, and a ****ty 8megapixel camera that can't even record motion pictures without ****load of blurring isn't even close to being decent. again go check out the thousands of threads about this issue.

5. Lol the feel has nothing to do with build quality. You can drop the phone from 2 feet up, and shader the whole screen (again, check out all the threads in which this has happened). And you guys seem to like having a brick made of glass in your pocket then something thats sleek in style.

6. Lol galaxy s isn't even related to this. The phone was developed FOR google. It went through ****load of tests to meet their requirements. JUST like the N1 did. Not only that, but it contains AOSP, no need for any modifications or waiting for updates from samsung. Getting the very first OTA on 3.0, and any other updates that come along the way. The hardware might be the same, but the support and developing is far beyond what galaxy s line received. The only reason Im not on the epic is because of samsung's ****ty history when it comes to updates.

And I now see what Award Tour is trying to say. you guys REALLY are worst then iphone fan boys. Even with the ****ty outdated cpu, gpu, OS, screen, and so many other things, you STILL argue for an old outdated phone.
[EVO 4G General] david279:
Big tyme e-fight going on in here. I think the phone is good. Just not what everybody expected. I would mind having one. Wouldn't give up the Evo for it though.
[EVO 4G General] rican408:
I must agree it is NOT better than the evo. I thought i would be envious when it came out. Now i am relieved. The only good thing about the nexus is the gyroscope and the Google support, which is awesome. But yes 4g is awesome, kickstand is awesome, hdmi is awesome, hummingbird is not that big a deal at all! I like sense UI, my cameras work great. Sorry. It's a let down. BTW I have seen it in action I meet with 2 Google employees a day at least. NOT impressive.

Bottom line, I expected much more. It will be old news 1 month after release.
[EVO 4G General] akarol:
The camera is worst on paper, but better in reality. The screen is beautiful (would rather have 4.3, but the small drop doesn't bother me for SAMOLED). However, if it had a dual-core processor, I'd be all over it. HTC's timeline has dual-core phones as early as the beginning of next year. The Nexus S will be obsolete too soon to make it a considerable investment.

BTW, no external storage is just backwards to me.
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
My thoughts exactly. Wouldn't hate someone if they offered one to me free of charge but I was sort of expecting more.

Safe to say ill be holding on to my Evo for a little bit more.

SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
naw, it's just one guy trying to make a lot of noise. If you compare the nexus-s threads on all the other boards you'll see everyone agrees that this phones is rubbish
[EVO 4G General] Samzebian:
All my stuff is above in the quote
[EVO 4G General] Samzebian:
well it may not be that great but it isn't rubbish. Like someone above said, I would take it for free, but I wouldn't pick it over my Evo.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Oh god, how much did Samsung pay you to say that? ROFLAMO!
[EVO 4G General] Product F(RED):
This is from the perspective of an Android user in general, not an Evo user (although I do own one).

This phone is basically a Samsung Epic sans keyboard, which is fine. However, it brings nothing new to the table. Same processor. Same amount of RAM. LACKS HSPA+. LACKS a memory card slot. On top of that, I really hate the non-standard capacitive button layout. It's like it was designed to give you as man hand cramps as possible. It should be HOME - MENU - BACK - SEARCH or at the very worst MENU - HOME - BACK - SEARCH.

Now what I do like is that it's stock Android, and it runs Gingerbread which has a new UI. I really didn't like the white and orange look stock Android had going on, especially with the white taskbar. I'm glad now it looks similar to Sense and that I can see myself using it daily. On top of that, like the Nexus One, it gets priority in terms of updates, and it can be "rooted" without any work. I also like the screen, both in terms of type and the curve and that it has a front-facing camera. Don't really care about the NFC chip.

Would I buy this phone? If I was back to the point of choosing a phone and carrier, probably. It's unfortunate that it's made by Samsung and not HTC, but it's still an attractive phone, at least aesthetically. I guess with time I could get over the lack of MicroSD card slot and I could probably get over lack of HSPA+ (which I still think is really weird). If someone asked me to trade for my Evo right now though? Probably not.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
+1

10char
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
the epic is a solid phone. just the updates are slow.
[EVO 4G General] jobryan26:
It has a few nice features but honestly nothing that actually gets me excited. I am still very much happy with my EVO for now.
[EVO 4G General] mykrlz182:
I like that someone can claim that the nexus is "10x better than the Evo" (already shows how ignorant this guy is) and then spew out all kinds of misinformation, and then has the nerve to call everyone here fanboys! All I'm saying is the phone may have some really good potential, but the truth is the timing of it makes it just another middle of the road phone. When your going to say something is 10x better, even thought it isn't meant to be taken literally, it should at least be twice as good (example: dual core). Otherwise you just threw all credibility out the window, that is unless you were just trolling instead of trying to be insightful!

ROM: Myn's RLS4

Kernel: Kings #11

Loving my Evo!
[EVO 4G General] jxr94:
it does have 720p recording....

http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
[EVO 4G General] HTCinToronto:
Ummm it starts out late cause it requires dev time then thereafter it becomes stock+.
[EVO 4G General] cowfodder:
Just want to point out, it's a quad-band phone, not tri-band.

From my EVO to your eyeballs!
[EVO 4G General] mykrlz182:
Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree dude....... Ok so now as for my opinion, the Nexus s meh.....It looks alright still satisfied with my Evo, don't get me wrong if some other phone comes out that is like "10x better" than the Evo I wouldnt hesitate to buy it. But let's see: smaller screen, 0.3 front facing versus 1.3, 8mp vs 5 mp, no hdmi out, can't expand memory, same amount of RAM, not mention we'll end up getting 2.3 anyway. Mmmmm not exactly revolutionary, its gonna take a lot more then that for me to trade up my Evo.

ROM: Myn's RLS4

Kernel: Kings #11

Loving my Evo!
[EVO 4G General] david279:
I kinda think the G2 is a better phone than the nexus S.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
have you not learned by now that megapixel has nothing to do with the quality of the picture. Well i guess it does, but for the evo it doesn't. You can put 50 megapixels if you wanted on that device, and still look like ****. The 5mp camera on the nexus s is a lot more clearer then on the evo, same goes for the front facing camera. The fps on recording is also faster and wont blur like it does on the evo. So what if the ram is the same? everything else has HUGE improvements over the evo. It's not anything revolutionary but people in this thread are talking **** as if its not better then the evo, especially when the hardware AND software specs disagree.

Also hdmi on the phone is pretty useless anyways, not even true hdmi.
[EVO 4G General] mykrlz182:
I wouldn't say people are "talking ****" its more of people just don't feel that what the nexus has to offer is worth getting rid of their evos. Your making it sound like the Nexus is the end all of all phones. Which its not, now if you were going from a......let's say a G1 to a Nexus S then yeah that is a leap or in your words 10 x better.

ROM: Myn's RLS4

Kernel: Kings #11

Loving my Evo!
[EVO 4G General] Samzebian:
True, Megapixels aren't the best way to benchmark the camera. But the Evo's cam is amazingly good for pictures, both front and back. Video is pretty good as well, although on a front facing cam you're not going to see too much; I've seen the iphone's front facing cam which does a much better job, but is a lower resolution. But in comparison to the nexus s's cam, it's still and always will be better. In all comparisons I've seen, the cameras are on par in terms of sharpness, but the evo has a better color accuracy and has a higher resolution. The only benefit I see on the epic/nexus s's cam is the focus seems a bit tighter.

The evo is not laggy when it comes to the fps of video.

A CPU at the same speed with a bit higher benchmarks is not a HUGE or 10x performance, nor is a GPU that isn't even utilized by most of the OS anyways. My old AT&T Tilt had an awesome GPU, but it wasn't used until hacked drivers came out for it, so it ran like ****. This has the same issue, except that the difference is there are drivers, but most apps don't know how to take advantage of the gpu yet.

Other than that, I get a bigger screen, more features I use all the time, and most importantly, what really kills the nexus s is I CAN USE MICROSD CARDS! wtf was that samsung? Really?

HDMI Useless? Right, because the super duper nexus s doesn't have it?

Wait until Cyanogenmod 6.1.1, it'll have FULL HDMI OUT!

I also agree with you there. I don't feel the need to 'upgrade' (more like downgrade for me) to a nexus s.

None of us here are talking **** about the phone, it's perfectly good, but if you're (referring to last-chance) going to sit here in the Evo section of XDA about the nexus s stomping on the evo and being "10x" better at 2 in the morning (could be 11 where you are depending on timezone, but still), then go buy the phone on the 6th and get a life! This is your last chance at vindicating yourself, last-chance!
[EVO 4G General] xHausx:
True, rubbish may have been too strong of a word to use but I think it's safe to say the bar was set very high and a lot of people feel disappointed in it. I think it's a very good looking phone, and I would be more than happy to use one if someone wanted to give it to me, but its not something I would be willing to spend that kind of money on or switch carriers over.

The lack of external storage is a huge turn off for me. What's next, a permanent battery to make it that much more like the iPhone?
[EVO 4G General] Samzebian:
yea or how about removing copy/paste? Oh wait winphone 7 beat them to that...

Recessed headphone jack? lol
[EVO 4G General] Beejis:
Haven't touched one, but if it has the same feel as a Galaxy S phone, then I would pass. Feels WAY too cheap IMO.
[EVO 4G General] notasimpleway:
I wasn't going to feed the troll in hopes that it would wonder off. However, I need to clear something up.

1. Battery. You are correct, troll. If I unplug my Evo right now fully charged the battery will die in 4-5 hours as you stated. However, it would take me watching videos(porn in your case)on my phone for 4 hours straight. My average battery is 10-12 hours of battery life. I can make you a pie chart to prove it if you'd like. Mmm pie.

2. Camera. Even though I was unaware a troll could use a camera, I have to agree with it. The Evo camera is not the best. My $8,000 Canon DSLR takes better pictures. What is wrong with HTC? They should have used Canon's CMOS sensor... As for the HTC Evo's camera vs. the camera on the Samsung Galax...er.. Nexus S, more megapixels will make a difference. I think people base quality off of the picture they took at out one night during a new moon(meaning it's very dark). Megapixels will not really matter while taking that photo because the noise(you know those little specks you see in poorly lit photos) is great. Maybe the Nexus S is better at handling noise. I think better written software for the handling of the noise can fix it in the Evo. But taking a photo in the afternoon on a nice, cloudy day with both phones(I say phones because they aren't 8k cameras) I would bet money the Evo would make the better photograph. Because of the 3 megapixels. I know both will show a lot of low-light noise in less than perfect lighting conditions because they aren't $8,000 professional cameras.

As for your troll statement that the Evo only takes blurry action shots, it is a phone. You really can't adjust the shutter on any phone. I would also bet money that the Galax...Dammit! Nexus S can't take an action shot any better. It is hard to get blurless photos even with my 8k camera sometimes! And I'm a professional photographer. So, yea, stop talking about a cell phone's camera. Mine's bigger than yours. Also, since I like to always have a camera on me and not lug all my gear around, I have a choice of carrying my 5 megapixels point-and-shoot Canon or my Evo, I take my phone because the quality it better. That is all. Now, run along and play with all the other baby trolls. :D

The Supersonic or Evo is a sweeeeeeeet phone. The Nexus S is barely an upgrade compared to Evo for something Samsung and Google want to be their flagship phone. Like others have said, unless you are coming from a first generation Android phone, there is no reason to "upgrade".

Since I typed this on from my phone, I didn't bother to check my spelling nor my grammar or anything else. So, don't bother trying to insult me.

- Ken

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.