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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mprziv:
This is one of the best things about my Nexus One. I remember hearing that the T-zones hack wouldn't work on the G2 because it is a branded T-mobile phone.

Any speculation, or confirmation if the $5.99 t-zones hack will allow web access on the Nexus S, like it does for the Nexus One?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EpicAaron:
I dont think the phone will be carried by T-Mobile, only offered through T-Mobile like the Nexus One was, so I believe it will still work, but that's just reasoning based on speculation.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mprziv:
That was my guess as well.

I wonder if best buy will make you upgrade your Tmobile plan, or let you simply extend your contract for 2 years.

I'd hate to lose the 5.99 tzones web access and be forced into a more expensive data plan.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacksonj51:
It will only by offered by the bestbuy's that carry Tmobile phones.... I know a few (next to me) that only have Sprint & Verizon and they said they won't offer the phone but any bestbuy that carries TMO phones will.

As for upgrades it will require to up to a 2 year contract and you will then incur their $30 data package or their standard smartphone data plan.

That's the simple reason I go with the retail version rather than the upgrade as I run the $10 data plan... by going upgrade - $20 x 24 = $480 a raw deal IMO
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mprziv:
Yeah, $5.99 tzones, or $10 data plan is worth it. I'd rather pay full retail than lose that.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ksc6000:
This is what will determine this as a purchase for me.

I like paying 10/month for data rather than 30 which is ridiculous.

10/month = 120/year

30/month = 360/year
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
sudo rm /post
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
Source? or Speculation?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
I have no idea where I read it, but it said Tmobile would carry them

and i walked into my Tmobile store asked them and they told me yes they would, but either way i dont mind a trip to best buy Thursday morning

but maybe im seeing things
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hah2110:
That isn't true. See excerpt from the Best Buy Mobile site:

Will my local Best Buy be carrying the Nexus S? I talked to the staff there and they didn’t know.

Sorry for the confusion. We are still in the process of getting all of our stores prepared for launch. The Nexus S will be available on launch date in both locked and unlocked versions at all Best Buy stores, Best Buy Mobile stand-alone locations and online.

Will Best Buy Mobile stores that don't usually sell T-Mobile carry the Nexus S, since it's an unlocked device?

Yes. There will be inventory in all stores, as well as available for purchase online as a T-Mobile device and shipped to home.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EpicAaron:
From Best Buy's FAQ:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
ya i misread it was late and i was tired :)

but even though the FAQ page says they will sell it at stores that dont sell tmobile plans i am being told that it will not be sold

All best buy stores in the LA area do not sell Tmobile. id have to make a 2 hour trip to get one if that is the case
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mprziv:
So far I've been able to access the internet with my 5.99 t-zones plan on the nexus s, the same way I was able to on the nexus one.

ymmv
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itmustbejj:
Is the 5.99 T-zone just edge data?

What about the $10 data plan?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mprziv:
Its full internet.

On my N1 I was able to get hspa, same with the NS.

The same thing for the $10 plan.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hah2110:
Can you still add that plan?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mprziv:
no....you have to be grandfathered in.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajayendra:
For $10 they have just the 200MB these days.

No unlimited for 10bux anymore:mad:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FastMhz:
5.99 Tzone Works!! :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Das_mobile:
This is what I needed to hear! Will upgrade from the Nexus One shortly.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I think everyone is surprised a phone not sold through t-mobile is being blocked. This might actually be the first case.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
I am VERY surprised :eek:

I mean even certain T-mobile branded smartphones don't get blocked from Web2go... So why the hell should a phone that isn't even sold by T-mobile have a hit put out on it? :(

:Sigh:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
Im thinkin its cuz the Tmobile engineers lurk this forum
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
Ignore this...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tommyz2kool:
surely they browse the nexus one forum too, but thats not blocked afaik.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FastMhz:
Its because ppl talk. They call tmo asking for tzones saying that their friends friend pay 5.99 for internet and they demand the same. Reps talk amongst each other and eventually they will catch on.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
Last i checked there isnt a thread titled T-zones hack on page one
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tommyz2kool:
not at this moment, but there were in the past. Also if that's the case that they found out about the workaround by reading this thread, then they would have also read about people saying in this same thread that N1 is still working. But they havent blocked N1
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
The reason that it's blocked is because T-Mobile has a listing of imei numbers from samsgung/google/best buy.

Not because people are "talking about it". N1/N900/Any other non t-mobile phones works with t-zones if that option is still active in your account.

T-Mobile knows what devices are on their network, they can't however block them unless they know for certain it's a certain device.

This is purely conjecture, but I believe T-Mobile and BestBuy have an agreement to supply the imei numbers for sold devices.

What I'm curious about now is whether Nexus S's from the UK will be imei blocked in the states.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nexus14:
will it matter? the ones sold in the UK don't have 3G bands for t-mobile usa. or do they? serious question
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Pretty sure there's currently only one model of the Nexus S and they are all the same band config.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] annicus:
Tmobile can recognize all devices on their network. They have ALL IMEI numbers and the phones they identify. I am using an unlocked E71 and when I called in to speak to retentions this one time, the lady said 'let's see, you're using a Nokia E71'.. which completely surprised me. They know. Many people with iphones have called in and had CSR's tell them that they're using iphones.

So it really is unfortunate that tmobile has decided to block the n-s IMEIs. As you said earlier, it is a shock to everyone because it is the first non t-mobile device that t-mobile has blocked.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamranwpi:
I don't think they have time and software to sort only nexus S phone.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
I second that.

They even can tell my XT720 even it's rare.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nuc70st:
same problem found out its Best Buy doing this!

I had 10.00 web2go for years now used N1 for good year no problem full 3G. Just bought a Nexus S 1s few days it worked now requires internet upgrade.

I called tmobile they 1st told me web2go plan dont work with smartphone then i proved them wrong when i slap the sim in my nexus 1.

I directly asked them why are you blocking my internet in Nexus S. At 1st they denied it. I asked them then why its not working then spoke to a manager and he told me.

Best buy selling this phone to sell with contact or full prices but a internet data needs to be required of 30.00 unlimited or 10.00 200 mb set by Best Buy. Basically Best Buy found out people just upgrade N1 or others phones to Nexus S with out upgrading internet or plans. So to get some of those customer to sign up contract or data plans Best Buy has requested Tmobile to Block Web2Go/Tzone from Nexus S users after few days from launch. This way people who has older inter will not want to pay more making take the 199.99 contact deal thinking the 300 you saving you will use that to pay for internet same time you signing a contact and they make more money!

Its Best Buy who screw everything up and Tmobile just cooperated. Far as I can understand in order Tmobile to block all these devices they needed to know the device IMEI #. I think Best Buy and Samsung just gave all away to Tmobile. I am sure Tmobile is happy as well making more money give the same service you paying as Tzone/Web2go.

ITs just a shame!!!

I say Every switch to Simple Mobile!!!

40.00 unlimited talk + Text

60.00 Unlimited Talk + Text + 3G Web (uses Tmobile network 1700mhz so Nexus S work perfect!)

mysimplemobile-DOT-com
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamranwpi:
will nexus s 3g work with simplemobile?

if so, is it prepaid?

well looks like it's time to divorce tmobile after 10 years
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
heres a thought, Walmart offers their crappy mobile service, but it runs on the Tmobile network..would that work?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nexus14:
i don't think it has anything to do with best buy requesting t-mobile to block the nexus S from t-zones or web2go. first off, if you buy the device OFF-CONTRACT and pay full retail price for it, best buy will not get any commission if you upgrade to the full Android data plan. therefore, best buy doesn't care if the nexus S you bought for full price works on t-zones, web2go, or full Android data plan since you never signed a contract.

now, you argue that people who find out that t-zones/web2go won't work will sign up for the nexus S and will be forced to upgrade to the more expensive plan. true, but i am pretty sure a lot of people with t-zones will not want to upgrade knowing that they can save more money on other devices (nexus 1, hd2, hd7,) while still using their 2.99/4.99/5.99 t-zones. these people will just return the device to best buy where there are no restocking fees. i am sure best buy will take a loss with these opened devices who will have to return them to samsung. therefore, i don't think it was best buy who forced t-mobile to do anything since such a deal would result in them losing money due to the large volume of returned devices.

the more likely reason is already stated: t-mobile has a list of all the nexus S IMEIs and can block accordingly.

as far as simple mobile goes, it still uses t-mobile's 3g network and thus may face the same restrictions. not only that, there's a 1 gigabyte cap opposed to 5 gigabytes
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clin0420:
Total Internet Plan does not work as well

Funny thing is my old 19.99 total internet plan doesn't work as well. It brings me to a web2go page showing that service is unavailable and that technicians are working on it whatever that means...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
I am afraid to say...you must have 4G web or Android service to make it work (it doesn't work with webconnect like nexus one).

Damn you T-Mobile!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clin0420:
DAMN YOU AGAIN TMO!! ACTUALLY DAMN U SAMSUNG AND YOUR TMOBILE IMEI APPEASEMENT!!

My $19.99 total internet plan was the best, I could switch from a winmo phone to my iphone 4, to my nexus one, all with data working flawlessly, but I started getting the stupid web2go, service unavailable message on my browser two days ago....tmo reps did tell me there was an data outage in my area but I don't think its that since my nexus one data works fine..

I'm afraid if I switch to the android plan that I will no longer be able to use my winmo and iphone seamlessly.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahfpired:
I'm Afraid this time it wasn't T-Mobile Alone... Google's not selling Nexus S completely "unlocked"... I mean, the phone is indeed attached with T-Mobile... Nexus One was the perfect device: unlocked and unrelated to any carrier... I was using my T-Zones plan without any problem... Nexus S is just a T-Mobile Samsung (Vibrant) Galaxy S unlocked! It requires an ANDROID DATA PLAN!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clin0420:
So basically only phones I can use with my total internet, is a unlocked iphone 4 running on edge, a nexus one and windows mobile phones?

I really doubt that there will be another android phone with the flexibility of the Nexus one..if what you say is true...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahfpired:
Well... I hope not! I really miss my Nexus One! Power Button died and as soon as I received the replacement unit I sold it to buy the Nexus S - EPIC FAIL! Right now I'm using a Samsung Galaxy i7500 (it has T-Mobile's 3G bands...).

You can also use the Motorola XT720 and have your total internet without problems!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benjar:
I can confirm that web2go is currently working well on my Nexus S.

I'm not sure why you guys are experiencing trouble.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
I have 4G web attached to EM+ 3 in 1 plan (no extra cost) and it works 100% with ALL the phones I have in inventory (except BB because I don't have any nor data cards).
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahfpired:
My T-Zones worked for a week, then it stopped working...! But it works flawlessly with my Samsung Galaxy i7500; I cannot tell what happened exactly, but my T-Zones doesn't work with the Nexus S... I got my Nexus S replaced with a new one (after fighting a little with Best Buy Representative) and it didn't worked at all... I ended returning my Nexus S...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clin0420:
how much is your 4g web attached EM+ 3 in 1 plan. since they got rid of em+, is this new promotion from tmobile comparable?

*

1500 Minutes

*

Limited Time Only

Talk + Text + Unlimited Web*

Even More™ 1500 Talk + Unlimited Text + Unlimited Web More details

compare

$79.99

per month

Add to Cart
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clin0420:
may be a matter of time for you....fingers crossed...I can understand web2go/tzones plans, but even my total internet plan? I cannot understand that at all.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clin0420:
actually, instead of getting our phones from best buy USA, what if we got them from carphone warehouse in the UK? Would tmobile USA still have the IMEI's then and have us blacklisted with our existing data plans?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahfpired:
I've been using, since 2006, a PR (Puerto Rico) National Plan 29.99:

400 whenever minutes

unlimited received calls

unlimited nights

unlimited weekends

400 (200/200) text messages

+ 5.99 T-zones Plan!

+ TAXES

~Total: 40.96 - 41.96
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahfpired:
I was wondering the same! But I haven't found anything yet!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] irishrally:
Tmobile did not get rid of EM+, you just need to go to a store or call up to get it. It is no longer shown on the website but that's it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
It will work fine. The data plans aren't device specific in that way. For instance, I technically have the MyTouch data plan and its worked without issue on both my G2 and now the Nexus S

If you talk to the retentions department, you might be able to get the Preferred Android data plan for the same $19.99 price.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clin0420:
Well I think thats because the g2 and Nexus S are both android phones, and the mytouch data is essentially an android plan..
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
Dude, it'll work fine. :P You're fretting over nothing.

Further proof: When I sold my G2, I sold it to a gentleman using an old schoooool Blackberry. We're talking so old school that I wouldn't have known it was a Blackberry if it didn't have the logo on it. He was buying the phone for his son for Christmas, but being the fan of Android that I am, I suggested to him to pop his SIM card in and try it for himself. Everything worked perfectly. Data, phone calls, the whole nine yards.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clin0420:
Well, I know it may look that way, but I have no doubt it will work for a day or two before you get the upsell page. My Nexus S worked for a week before everyone started to get the upsells this week. Once you change it is very hard to get a grand fathered feature back
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
Er, wait a second, I think I may have misunderstood the post I was originally responding to. If so, I apologize.

I thought your concern was about getting the $30 Android Web Plan and having it work with your iPhone 4(EDGE only, as I'm sure you're aware) and WinMo phone seamlessly. If that is the case, then there isn't anyway you can be sent to an upsell page because $30 is the maximum T-Mobile charges for it's unlimited data connection. All of the $30 plans are the exact same data package with different names throw in front of them e.g. 4G Web Plan, Android Web Plan, MyTouch Web Plan, etc. The Preferred Android Web Plan I mentioned is a discounted $19.99(though some have only gotten $25) offered by the retention/loyalty department for long-time customers but is still considered the same data package offered at $30.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JohnnyFeet:
I don't think T-Mobile will have those IMEI's on file, but that route will be extremely costly. Do you think it's worth it?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wick3d-G:
You will get cut off soon if you haven't, it does take a few hours sometimes. Does anyone have a Nexus One and can update us whether or not T-zones is still working on it?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Web2go is still rocking strong, so I assume t-zones is as well. (on a Nexuse One)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ruprick:
I ended up biting the bullet, talked to retentions and picked up the $20 android data plan. Made a few changes to my voice package so that minimized total out of pocket increase. Nice to have OTA data again.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahfpired:
Can you tell me exactly how you did it? I'm considering paying $20 for an Android Data Plan, nothing else... I called and asked for it and they told me the only option is the $25 Data Plan...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clin0420:
Well I can't just have the $19.99 preferred android plan. So I jumped the gun and got the 4G web plan which will work for any platform/phone I use. I already pay $75.00 for my voice/txt/data.

I got the new promotional $79.99 even more plan with 1500 min/ unlimited txt and data...ya its a little bit more, but I also got 10% off with my TMO discount.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
you have a NS, why the "4G web plan"
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
That's what T-mobile labels their $30 unlimited data plan now as.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
Hate when companies have to over complicate things
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
If there's one thing large companies or general bureaucracies are good at its overcomplicating things. :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
If i ran a cell carrier i would name the plans as followes

minutes, more minutes, and your not going to use these minutes.

in addition to that there would be just a simple web plan called "the internets"
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JohnnyFeet:
Nexus One is working perfectly with T-Zones and web2go. Confirmed.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap3604:
Web2go got locked down hard for me a week after I bought the Nexus S.

After using it a week the Nexus S started asking me to upgrade so I thought I would use my Nexus One for a few days and see what would happen.

I figured after 2 days of using Web2go on a Nexus One I would at least be able to get a few hours of data out of the Nexus S before T-mobile tried to upgrade me. Nope. As soon as I put the sim card in the Nexus S I was immediately prompted to upgrade my data :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
Not that this really needed further confirmation, but T-Mobile definitely has the IMEIs from this phone. I called regarding a billing question and once he had finished helping me, the representative started asking me about my thoughts on the Nexus S as he was considering getting one of his own.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milkham:
True enough, they must be blocking the web2go and t-zones based on IMEI but they don't need to officially have a phone to know what phone you're using. I called a while back and the rep could tell I was using an iphone.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowz3r:
though im not affected by this issue but it kinda is a shame, i mean they never knew I had a N1 before and now they know i have a NS :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahfpired:
Back to Nexus One!

Well~, Nexus S is not that different from Nexus One... and T-zones $5.99/mo. is worthy the "downgrade"... I ordered another Nexus One from timtechs.com with one year warranty (I have bought from timtechs before and can't complain at all)... It is a global warranty for manufacturing defects (forget about accidents) but it works for that Power Button Flaw! Let's see what Google brings us next year: a real Nexus Two?! ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gasanpride:
I went to Best Buy this afternoon and the rep allow me to try one of the Nexus S demo. I inserted my sim and internet appears to be working right from the start. If I am going to buy that unit full price, do you think my Tzones wil be blocked after one week or so?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
It's very likely.

I purchased NS in full.

It works with main line which has 4G web flag on EM+ 3 in 1 plan, but internet doesn't work with 3rd line with $10 web2go.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JohnnyFeet:
I wonder if T-Mobile has the IMEIs of the developer Nexus S that was handed out by Google. You know with the silly little Androids on the battery cover.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willverduzco:
They do. I have the limited edition direct from Google, with the repeating Android logos on the back. The $10 data plan, which worked flawlessly on my Nexus One, worked on my S for a few hours and then directed me to the upsell page.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swordsaint_ss:
Hey guys. may i make a suggestion? If your phone is rooted, use a File explorer app to navigate to your /efs folder. copy all the contents of that folder to your sd card or to your computer via adb. Then delete the CONTENTS(not the actual folder) of the folder and reboot your device. Check to see whether your internet is working now.

I'm thinking of getting the Nexus S for my girl for the FFC but i need it to work with $web2go which i'm not giving up EVER! :-) This mod is from the Galaxy Tab Forums where we had to break our EMEI in order to bypass T-MO internet restriction on that device too. Please report if this works or not, i'm sure alot of us will be SUPER HAPPY!

thanks
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swordsaint_ss:
Did anyone try the /efs folder mod yet to confirm that it works just like its sister device the Samsung Vibrant/Tab? thanks
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ronn888:
where did you see that this works for the vibrant?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swordsaint_ss:
you're right...that was an assumption on my behalf. it is confirmed working for the galaxy tab. However from my cursory research it seems the file system at root is similar on all the Samsung Galaxy devices (the galaxy s phone line also has /efs folder where the EMEi is stored). As the Nexus is also a samsung it very well might be just as easy. will someone witn A nexus please verify whether you have the /efs folder at Root? thanks
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willverduzco:
Yes. I have an /efs folder at root. I would be a bit worried to be the first guinea pig to remove its contents on the S, though.