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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Das_mobile:
That is gone also. T-Mobile just replaced it a month ago with a 200MB plan like AT&T. Only $30 gets you unlimited now
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajayendra:
Thanks!...it sucks. Gosh so want to switch but not getting a good deal :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meetagrawal:
Is it full 3g speed?

Only thing I'm worried about is them cutting it off down the road.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Das_mobile:
Should have just got a Nokia dumbphone like a month ago, you would have been grandfathered in. Even More plus has a $20 data plan with voice, that may be worth looking into
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Das_mobile:
Speed should be consistent across all data plans and APNs. Have not heard of speed being different on lower priced plans.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bicster_:
I have the $10/mo unlimited. When I tried to order the NS online it wanted to force me to a new plan. I ordered by phone and they were able to keep my existing data plan. No way am I gonna pay $30/mo for data ... especially considering how crappy their 3G works downtown. Usually I get faster data by forcing my phone to EDGE.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meetagrawal:
Did you buy it subsidized?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bicster_:
Yes, as an upgrade for an existing line.

Order receipt says this:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajayendra:
Just came back from a T-Mobile store and they have this. Pls see at the bottom it says $10 unlimited internet for other phones.

So, if I buy the phone @ full price from BB, can I use this data plan without incurring any extra charge (even if I go beyond 200MB) and still use the UNLIMITED Internet?

Thanks
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KROMO50:
I am on loyalty Web2Go $5 and get full 3G.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeytw24:
Can anyone else confirm that t-zones works on the Nexus S?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meetagrawal:
This will be my first Android phone since the G1.

I remember having to have a data plan because it forced you to put in your email when you turned on the phone for the first time to set it up. Is it the same way? Assuming I have to change my apn to get data working, does WiFi allow you set it up?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Those are old flyers with outdated plans, though they will probably honor it if you make a big enough of a fuss about "being misled" and "bait and switch".
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EpicAaron:
I can confirm it, popped in sim card, works great. $5 internet.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajayendra:
Anyone please?!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bicster_:
If you have an existing T-Mobile data plan, you can keep it. That is all.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KROMO50:
It works look 5 post up.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KROMO50:
call 611 and say cancel talk to these people they will hook u up just be nice and tell them your deal. as for the $5 internet it works on the Nexus S just change the APN to internet2.voicestream.com
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] du1sbo:
I just returned from a local best buy store here in Houston. The lady at the Best Buy Mobile Kiosk told me that I can buy the phone, by signing up a 2 year contract with the required DATA plan, which is $30 a month. I said i can sign up for another 2 years contract, no intentions of leaving TMO anyways, but i would like to keep my existing voice and data plan, I dont want to sign up to that $30 a month data plan, i have the T-Zones data plan. she ask me if i was Grandfathered in my data plan, i said yes. She said their Computer system at the store wont let them sell the phone signed 2 yrs contract without data plan. The fix is you signed up 2 yrs contract at Best Buy store, they will add the $30 plan, once you get home call TMO customer service and tell them that you are grandfathered in with the old data plan and they will remove the $30 data and return the grandfathered data plan. Hopefully some one can shed a light on this, this would be the cheaper way of getting the Nexus S, by signing a 2 yrs contract and keep the existing voice and data plan.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] du1sbo:
Did you bought the phone by signing up 2 yrs contract or no contract?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
I doubt u can do this. Your 2 year contract is for the service and data plan, you cant change it for 2 years.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meetagrawal:
Yeah I highly doubt they will change the data plan back to your grandfathered plan, after you've upgraded that. Which Best Buy in Houston did you go to? I'm going to the one on Gessner after work to see if they will let me do it.

Another guy in the thread called the Best Buy Mobile number and was able to let them keep his plan.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajayendra:
I am switching from at&t ..I am a new customer
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajayendra:
I am switching from at&t and I will be a new customer. My concern is can I buy the $10 data plan (since I am paying the full price of the phone) and pretend I will be using this data on a Motorazr. Is there a way TMo will know that I used the data plan on the NS?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
They will know u are using NS but there is nothing they can do because only tmobile sold phone are blocked. Theoretically if they ever want to block NS, they easily can.

Ps. I might pick one up on my girls contract and see if they can keep her 10 dollar data. I know they can do some favors, If not then I will forget about NS.....
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
You got very lucky, I've spoken with three reps and none of them are willing.

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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nexus14:
you will not be offered a 10 dollar data plan if you are a new t-mobile customer. well, unless you are very persuasive with your words and manage to find a rep willing to aid it for you
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajayendra:
But I am not telling them that I will be using a Nexus S. For all practical purposes I may be using an unlocked iphone.

BTW I am willing to buy the phone full price.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] du1sbo:
I went down at Best Buy Victory Lakes in League City. They had plenty of stock. I bought 2 of this SEXY Nexus S, for my self and wife. I signed up for 2 yrs extension of my contract and was very happy that they let me keep my T-Zones, or else i would not sign up. so left the store with a big smile :):):)

To sum it up, I bought 2 Phones, $199 each plus tax, signed up for two year extension of my contract, existing voice and data plan, and the best thing is I kept my T-ZONES.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meetagrawal:
I went to Best Buy and The rep said he could not get past the screen which prompted him to ask which data plan I wanted. Im pretty sure you're data is going to be changed to the full plan unless the rep changed it to the $10 200mb plan.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] du1sbo:
First that's what the Rep said, he cant do it, i said can we go to the motion of purchasing the phone and see what will the computer system says. so he did and He was surprised when it let him pass the screen about keeping my existing data plan. I have the copy of my new contract and says i kept same voice and data plan, it even have the price breakdown. Go back to the Store and tell them to go to the motion also and they will be surprised :) I hope this will help you out.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meetagrawal:
Interesting. When you say go thru the motion can you explain a little more? The rep said he had to click on Activate to move to the next step and he was forced to choose the 10 or 30 plan before he could do so.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] du1sbo:
That's what the Rep did, he went to the computer, scanned the bar code of the box, then went to the activation process. I cant see what he clicked on the computer, but we were talking while he was going to the process, and he smiled and says I am surprised that the system let me pass the point where i need to add data plan, he did not add the data, just kept the current one i have and it went through.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
Call to order, customer service said that my phone does not quality for an upgrade even though i dont have 2-year contract. They told me to call back in a few days because this might be some mistake in system.....

was on hold for about 40 minutes.......:mad:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deekayy:
Here's my story and i would suggest someone trying..... I was still under contract with my G1 (while back i know), year after N1 came out i bought it and found out web2go works. I called the Tmo rep and said that my G1 is broken and if they can take out the data plan (29.99) and he was willing to take it off. Then I told him that i was using a very old phone that has web2go feature on it and i asked the rep if he can put that on my phone and he did. Little that he knows that web2go is now being used on my N1 3G/HSPA+ speeds.

When tmo announced that they were taking off web2go replacing with 9.99 per 200mb i thought it would affect my plan but it didn't. I still get HSPA speeds after 200mb and i use about 500mb a week. So to you new comers to tmo try it out and let me know if it works. Even if you manage to get switched to 9.99 data you could be capped at 200mb, hey better than nothing.

Side note: I realized all of you are getting the Nexus S and wanting to get away from 29.99 to 9.99 data plan. The rep wouldn't play your game if you said your NS is broken. I would say i bought this NS as a gift and you weren't sure if that person would like this phone so i would like the data plan be taken off so i won't be charged for the month.

Since all of your guys stories are straight forward to the reps wanting to get web2go with NS, bend the story and try my way (i actually got this idea off of someone else and look at how much im paying now..)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamesyt:
Can anyone else confirm that they were able to renew their contract and keep TZONE at Best Buy? THANKS!!!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
Today, went to a Best Buy mobile store located in the mall and asked for the Nexus S on contract. They rang me up and went through the process of renewing my contract. When the guy asked me which internet option i wanted, the 15 or the 30, I said that I've been with the T-zones plan for the last three years and wanted to keep it. I also make up an excuse that there wasn't any 3g coverage where I would be using my phone so there was no point. Well he said that he couldn't let me keep it and he had to choose one of the two options.

I ended up still upgrading and picking the 15 option for 200mb and decided that I would call T-mobile immediately afterwards. I ended up paying 216 after taxes.

So when I left the store, I immediately called Tmobile and said that I noticed that my internet plan changed from 5.99 Tzones to the 15 a month plan. They said that it was required due to me upgrading to the Nexus S. I told them the same story I told the BB guy but this time I said that the BB guy ENSURED me that I would be able to KEEP my Tzones plan when I upgrade. So tmobile put me on hold and when they came back they said that under the circumstances they would allow me to switch back to tzones from the 200mb $15 service.

Another trick that I learned is to ask to speak with the supervisor if you aren't getting what you want. Usually theyll honor your request before you even are directed to a manager/supervisor.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deekayy:
They allowed you to switch back so did you? does t-zones work?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
Yes of course i did. Tzones is unlimited 3g internet so heck no am I ever letting that go.

And yeah it worked in about 10 minutes after the switch. Don't give up when speaking with Tmobile. If the first guy doesnt let you switch back, hang up and try again. Also, speaking the the retentions/cancellation department seems to have better outcomes.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myrr:
Just got an upgrage message on mine... was using epc.tmobile.com. Tried internet2.voicestream.com and wap.voicestream.com as well with no results. Time to take her back to Best Buy?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
always call tmobile first and ask. What does the message say?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myrr:
internet2.voicestream.com says Service Unavailable, whereas epc said I needed to upgrade.

...and now epc.tmobile.com is working again. What the heck?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
could have been a fluke from tmobile similar to the one back in october when people's tzones stopped working unexpectedly for 5 hours and then magically came back.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] du1sbo:
You are not he only one. i was away from my house this whole afternoon, then around 1600 hrs(4pm CST) my internet stopped working, i checked my wife's phone and her internet was running fine so i just reset the data connection and boom it works again. maybe its a hick up just like the post above last October. Now everything back to normal. T-zones in full 3G speed. :):):)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myrr:
Well i'm experiencing more problems today... internet slowing to a crawl, then a full stop. If this continues I think the phone is gonna have to return to the mother ship.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DukeL:
Working for for me!! Match made in heaven.;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myrr:
Got fed up and returned it. Internet went dead yesteray, and then I couldn't even make calls (with full signal). Hopefully T-zones continues to work... maybe i'll pick it back up in the future.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ruprick:
We were talking about this in another thread: I noticed today that when signal jumped from 3G to EDGE speeds, I was then prompted to "upgrade" my service to a smartphone data plan. I assumed I would have to finally start buying a "legit" data plan but when I was back at 3G speeds my internet2.voicestream.com APN worked fine again.

I am currently on $10/mo dumbphone plan and just purchased the Nexus S at full price. Any idea why this trend is occurring?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leyvatron:
I was having problems too... but service is back and running with my T-zones.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
Ok so im pretty sure the reason why the we2go 10 plan doenst work correctly on the nexus or any smartphone is becasue its meant only for dumbphones and tmobile can pick up on it if you are using a "smartphone"

however, the tzones plan, which is 5.99 existed way back then and it didnt have this differentiation between smart or dumb phones since all phones were "dumb" at that time.

Thus, people with tzones shouldnt have a problem getting pestered by tmobile to upgrade service. There have been times noted wehre tzones just cut off like back in october last year when it stopped working for 5 hours. Then as magically as it disappeared, it came back on. a lot of people thought that Tmobile would officially end tzones then but i guess not. as of now, tzones is exclusive to those people who had it and who are still grandfathered into it.

asking for tzones and asking for the $10 web2go "dumbphone" plan is not the same.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradsh1:
no, they monitor t-zones. stick your t-zones SIM in a G1, G2, mytouch 3G etc and it will promptly stop working.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
really? that seems unfortunate, ive never had one of those devices but ive had the hd7, hd2, and vibrant and many iphones. never got any calls or texts or plan changes from tmobile. so did they force you out of tzones? its against a contract to change your service without your approval.

but what did you end up doing? did you switch internet plans? that seems so shady of tmobile.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradsh1:
It just won't work on devices sold directly by t-mobile where they have the IMEI and have identified the device. additionally, they won't let you keep it if you upgrade to an android phone. they will tell you it is a technical problem and the plan is incompatible with the phone. i have heard many many reps use those words.

when you try to use it on those devices you will be redirected to an upsell page telling you that the device is not compatible with t-zones and you need android data package. background data just doesnt work at all.

i'm actually shocked that you claim it works on the vibrant. i would be very very surprised if this is the case. the others it would probably work.

as for me, i bought my nex1 unsubsidized so t-mo does not have the IMEI, doesnt know what phone i have.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ruprick:
Even though I am out of contract, I purchased my Nexus S unsubsidized for the reasons you mention, and because I HATE the idea of being tied down to one carrier for 2 years. I figured my $10 dumbphone internet plan should work perfectly for me just like it did for my Nokia N900 and Nokia N8. But, as I stated earlier, when on EDGE speeds I get the auto-prompt to upgrade my data plan. On 3G, everything works as expected.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] annicus:
agree with everything you say, except for the last statement. t-mobile DOES have your IMEI and CAN identify your device. they have access too ALL IMEIs, unlocked or not. they just haven't been blocking tzones from the nexus devices, as of yet. who knows what may happen in the future.

i called in before on my E71 and they knew what device i was using. it won't show up in your account online, but they do know.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kolyan:
thats correct.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrroey:
i guess they are more strict on their android phones then becasue my hd2 and hd7 worked fine. i guess i just got lucky with the vibrant. all of these phones i purchased off contract of course along with my nexus 1 and s.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jh811:
I believe we are getting the upsell page at times because the phone's data connection is lost. The 3G or EDGE icon w/ 2 arrows disappears. You have to reset the data connection to get Tzones or web2go internet working again. This is kinda annoying. Has happened a few times in the 5 days I've had it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DukeL:
Yah I've noticed a couple times i was reverted to the upsell page and it said they were experiencing network problems. I hope this dosent continue, wonder if tmobile users with smartphone data plans are having these short outages?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamranwpi:
I have tzone 5.99 plan, and had this plan for 5+ years, here is what I have to say

It works great on iPhone 4 (EDGE Only)

It works fine on HD7 (Windows 7 Phone) doesn't matter 3G or EDGE.

Here is the delima with NEXUS S

It works perfect on 3G no problem at all, only stops working (actually it says Upgrade to $30 plan) when it it switches to EDGE.

There has to be a hack to fix this.

Untill the hack comes I am sticking to iPhone, since I can't live w/o data, but no way I am going to pay $30/month for crapy internet.

T-Mobile doesn't have good internet where I live, may be better somewhere else so please don't take it personal :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacksonj51:
I've been getting the up-sell page as well on my $10 data plan....

The simple fix is to reset the data connection but a hassle so I put her on WCDMA only and haven't had any issues as of yet.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ruprick:
I, too, was having the data upsell problem when switching to EDGE (I am on $10 web2go), but today I traveled between communities with varying EDGE & 3G speeds and had no problems accessing data the entire time. Maybe this was just a temporary glitch?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flyalexair:
So have you guys been buying this phone subsidized or unsubsidized?

Also Does a Tmobile Branded Nexus one work with Tzones?

The reason why I ask is because someone on CL is selling a brand new Tmobile branded Nexus one for $350. I think its a decent price and I am ready to dump my Iphone 2G because it is just too darn slow now.

This phone is not unlocked so I was wondering if it will let me use Tzones on it.

Any help would be awesome. My first post!

TIA!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
$10 smartphone plan from this year is working find on the Nexus S over here.

Just make sure you use internet2.voicestrearm.com instead of epc.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flyalexair:
Interesting. Do you know if it has the same effect with the nexus one?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamranwpi:
don't have nexux one to try ...

I just try the solution another person gave to force this phone to stay on 3g only and lets c if it work :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Das_mobile:
Nexus One has no problems with T-zones or Web2go (via internet2.voicestream.com APN). I have one working fine with $5.99 T-zones. Doesnt matter if HSPA or Edge it works. Was going to get the Nexus S, but will wait and see how the data plan plays out.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodolfo7171:
Ok so herees what I have to say. I work for best buy mobile so I got to use the nexus s ahead of time and I have the 5.99 tmobile web so I was curious wiether it would work or not so popped my sim into the store demo and it worked but when I tried it later again to show a customer the speed test it redirected me to upgrade but haven't tried again after that. I also tried to upgrade my line using the system and was able to get to the point right before signing the contract without switchin plans. Going to get the phone on christmas eve in the morning and will report back with how the internet worked out
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
Now only the SIM with 4g web works. The other 2 don't.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjpetrozelli:
Ughhhh

No matter what I do I cannot get epc.tmobile.com or internet2.voicestream.com to work not even wap.voicestream.com. I have had my iphone 3g on tmobile edge for at least 2 years now and no matter what I do I cannot get my S to get data. It may be that my home location is only an Edge area but I do not know; any help would be appreciated.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DukeL:
Tzones has been very unreliable on my Nexus S. Every day at least once I've had to reboot because I get redirected to the upsell page with this message "Service Unavailable, we apologize for the inconvenience as we work to restore service,Please try again later" So far a reboot has fixed it but Now tonight it has been down and no amount of rebooting will fix it. Even tried a couple different apn's no luck.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjpetrozelli:
That is exactly the issue I am encountering to a t. Except that I bought my s tonight and it has never been on tzones.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DukeL:
What data plan are u using then?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjpetrozelli:
Tzones 5.99
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] charlie8419:
Rodolfo >> How do you upgrade without changing the existing plan and BYPASS the Add Internet Package??? I also have t-zones so I need to keep that. I know there is a lot of People would like to know this. Please show us the STEPS.

If Upgrade without losing my current grandfather plan then I would get 2 for myself and my niece.

It would bring brighter Xmas for us all.

Thanks in Advance

Charlie
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nuc70st:
My Web2go acting up

Hey guys.. I had a N1 and now upgraded to Nexus S. Bought the one with Full price. The web to go was working fine today morning it is giving problem.. is any one else facing that with Nexus S. Funny thing is when i put the sim back to N1 it works perfect.