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[Nexus One General] negroplasty:
Let me paraphrase that for you. ;)

Joking aside :); even if Google does abandon us, as you say, it's certainly not the end for the Nexus One. Look at the G1 running Froyo for crying out loud. There are a lot of N1's floating around out there, and the demographic of its users are almost all tech heads like ourselves - A LOT of whom are even developers/programmers.

Don't concern yourself with the matter, if your phone does what you need it to and you like it... keep it. If you need to be first in line for updates directly from Google for the next year, I would suspect the NS would be the way to go.

Personally, I'm hanging on to my N1 until there are some respectable multi-core phones on the market. When that day finally comes I intend on having my Nexus framed; this has been the best phone I've owned and I don't think I could find it in myself to sell it.
[Nexus One General] pfmiller:
That N1 has never gotten shafted, seriously. Give an example. The reality is that 11 months after its release we are still at the head of the line for OS updates. What is it with the ridiculous persecution complex among some N1 owners??
[Nexus One General] kfir:
We should as a community make sure that google doesn't leave us.

we must remind them that as we were loyal to them, and they'd better not do an apple thing and ditch us.

Our phone's still more than capable compared to any other phone out there....

Send them a msg @

Here

Although XDA community's gr8, we should get their support too.
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
This alone should be enough to console the worried. A 2 year old phone, with incredibly outdated hardware, is still getting major support from developers -- if even Google abandons us.. hopefully there is one place that won't.

I bet the G1 itself is going to get a Gingerbread port.
[Nexus One General] tameracingdriver:
Indeed, +1

I dont get why anyone gets so defensive about a phone, whatever it may be. Choose the phone which does what YOU want it to do, what it does NOW, not what it may or may not do in the future. Then, when you've made the choice, don't try and tell everyone else what they should or shouldn't choose.

As for the NS, looks nice enough, but I wont buy one for 2 reasons. First I've just bought an iphone 4 and second I'm reluctant to buy anything from samsung - I've had very little luck with their products - not just phones, and its always been a frustrating ownership experience - and worse - when its time to sell on, the resale value is terrible.
[Nexus One General] knightnz:
Google owes you nothing. The N1 was primarily a reference dev device for Eclair/Froyo. The NS is the new reference dev device for Gingerbread/2.4.

It's called progress, get over it.
[Nexus One General] siddharthsai:
As long as I get the updates I'm happy with my N1.

Nexus S ( s for sucks ) . The main missing out feature is the led notifications. I can't live without it.
[Nexus One General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
No trackball, No notification lights, No micro SD card slot, cheap plastic frame, pentile matrix screen ( equals ugly fuzzy text) and not cutting edge. I would never get a nexus s. I'm perfectly happy with my n1 (slcd). It was groundbreaking when it came out. The nexus s is nothing special at all. Every other current android can keep up. And it's not innovative. Boring hardware design.

I'm quite sure that n1 will be getting all updates very fast including gingerbread. And even further. Nexus S will definetly not be my next device. I rather wait for the real nexus 2 or any HTC device which at least has a great built quality.
[Nexus One General] norazi:
well maybe if they make honeycomb on the s first (or only) that will be an overwhelming reason for you to change?
[Nexus One General] ohgood:
sinario:

you bought a product, with a working software.

expectations:

working hardware, working software

unrealistic expectaions:

continual, forever, constant updates to the latest greatest software

i really don't get how people expect to always have the latest software on a device, and sooner with each release. the N1 isn't getting shafted. the N1 is a developer device, that you are allowed to buy if you like. it works fine. it does what was advertised. software updates should be considered a privilage, not a right. google -could- always change to a GPS-vender type of marketing scam.. i mean sceme:

buy a product, pay for mapping updates every 6 months, for almost the cost of a new device. you wouldn't like that though. would you ?

enjoy your next operating system, if and when it gets here.

:)
[Nexus One General] tommo123:
expectation? expect to get updates, damn quick on a pure droid phone with no carrier crap in between

p.s, google give android away as a strategy against iOS and winmo7 (and BB to a lesser degree. i'm not even gonna include nokia in this). if it was paid for then it would be nowhere near as far reaching as it is now.

updates are not a right, they are expected and demanded. not from the usual crowd who buys the latest shiny shiny (ooh, it's silver and black!), but those with even a little more knowledge want what androids evolution gives us.
[Nexus One General] descendency:
I'm kind of sure that this could be one of the last official updates for the N1. Maybe 3.0

I really could see given the time they will have with 4.0, that they will be trying to push what the phones can do, which could leave the Nexus 1 in the cold.

Just a feeling though.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] bmtdan:
I was wondering if anyone could make a metamorph of the notification icons seen here.

Calkulin's

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=811695

Preferably with the battery percentage.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Nnyan:
I would love to see this in any format, Calkulin's notification icons are the best IMHO.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] tfhiv:
I would love to see it too. I have Calk's 1.8 running and I lost the colored gmail notification icon last week when gmail updated (but all others are still there).
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] JaiCameron:
There is exactly a tread about this.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=962939
[General Questions and Answers] quizzaz:
Greetings all !!!

I'm a windows mobile user....I'm using an htc p3600 trinity.

I've never had trouble updating my phone's rom, untill yesterday!!!

Usually i just connect the phone thru usb cable and use the Rom Update Utility.

But this time

I copied the 'SSPL-TRIN' file to the device and ran it from the phone.

Sadly it hanged at the red-blue-green screen. No matter how many times i tried resetting the phone(soft reset), it showed the same.

I then ran a working Rom Update Utility(RUU) and it showed the updating process from 1- 100 %.

After completion, it now shows the htc pic ( as it normally does when starting) and then it shows me only a white screen!!!

I've tried using RUU, but no use! The phone doesnt even detect up on the activesync (using win XP)

Plzzzzzz gimme advice bcos i love this phone and dont want to get another one!!!!!
[General Questions and Answers] adelaney:
If you can get to htc screen, then you can get into recovery console. Do that, then wipe data/factory reset. That should fix the problem.
[General Questions and Answers] quizzaz:
Its been a while but it finally worked Alhamdulillah(praise to God)

All i needed was to get to the bootloader screen.

I installed windows mobile device center(previously known as activesync)

on my windows 7 .

I pressed and hold the 3 buttons shown in the pic attached, and it got me to

the bootloader screen( the one with red,green,blue bars).

Then i ran the official rom update for my htc p3600 (downloaded from htc's website).

And to God's grace, it started updating and i got back my phone.

If this post has helped anyone of you, plz click on 'thanks ' on this post!!

Any help on further explainations...contact or pm me!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JPHCCFC:
If i get a visual voicemail plan with my current provider Fido is there anyway for this to work on my Desire z? Do i need a specific app?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JPHCCFC:
found this visual voicemail app from the droid x but cant get it to install on a rooted Desire z

http://www.chadhaney.com/droidXDefault/Vvm.apk
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SomEngangVar:
I don't have a specific app but I get visual voice mail. It's handy and can be funny sometimes but it is a luxury. I think it's called SpinVox. At least that's what it says on the messages I get.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JPHCCFC:
So your visual voicemails get sent directly to your sms messages?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SomEngangVar:
From what I've experienced yeah. I'd get a voicemail and then a couple minutes later a text telling me what it thought the voicemail said like "blah blah blah" - spoken through SpinVox.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] in_dmand:
I was having trouble after i upgraded to 2.2 froyo (from eugene's thread) with axura and blackfroyo skin. after i had trouble, i used odin to go back to 2.2 stock. after i did this, i wiped all user data and chached data and rebooted. now when i try to go to recovery and click on "re-install packages," i get the error of "E:can't open /sdcard/update.zip (no such file or directory) Installation aborted." what should i do and how do i fix this?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icandy75:
I would put my phone in download mode, Odin back to JFD and get a fresh run at it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] in_dmand:
oh i got it! downloaded rom manager, flashed clockwork mod, then rebooted into recovery and it fixed it =)
[myTouch 4G General] slackerx10:
I am trying to get peoples opinions about on which phone I should get... I have a Samsung Vibrant and I hate the phone... I have narrowed down to the two options, 1) Mytouch 4G or 2) G2. I don't know which one i should get or if any of those two are for me at all. If everyone could give me their opinions that would be awesome!
[myTouch 4G General] aznpr1de808:
i had both phones so i got hands on with them... it depends if you need keyword NEED a physical keyboard... the hinge on the G2 is 100% horrible!!!! i had them replace the phone 3 times in a 14 day period in which i ended up with my MT4G now ;) which i love... i havent really use the FFC tho i did couple times when i first got it but its not bad... both phone are extremely fast and sturdy. the G2 is alot heavier tho almost like 6.5 oz i believe... which is heavier than the HD2 but its because of the keyboard... i also had a vibrant too so in comparison with both fully touch screen phones the MT4G beats the vibrant IMO... hope this give you some insight on your decision...
[myTouch 4G General] vw671:
Asking that question on the MT4G board is only going to get you one answer...
[myTouch 4G General] aznpr1de808:
lol haha i never thought of that :D kinda a retoricle question
[myTouch 4G General] slackerx10:
haha nice

Lol yeah i know but like the first reply maybe there were others out there that had or have both.
[myTouch 4G General] slackerx10:
Great information!

It certainly does indeed. I was a little weary about that hinges on the G2 so I figured I would get other peoples thoughts about it.

Oh yeah as for only being posted in here I am posting the same question in the G2 forums as well.
[myTouch 4G General] aznpr1de808:
i do miss the vanilla froyo on the G2 i absolutely hate mysense lol but with the help of roms and ADW i made this phone perfect for me some times i miss the keyboard but i hardly type with this phone because i use voice to text recognition so i the end i never needed the keyboard in the first place... i do find that screen on the MT4G looks alittle better than the G2 maybe its jus me lol also you have 4 different choices in color with the MT4G unlike the plain silver on the G2... in the end, both phones are HTC branded, scropion CPUs, and HSPA+ enabled... so do you want a keyboard or Front Facing Camera? :D
[myTouch 4G General] Foo_Blyat:
Ban for not searching first
[myTouch 4G General] student.driver:
I have both, and I still love my G2 and its keyboard. Also, the hinge is awesome on both mine and my wife's G2, so that wasn't an issue for us. I don't care for all the crapware on the mT4G, and I miss the capacitive buttons on the G2 and Nexus One I had before that. However, the weight of the device and how it feels keep me trying, along with how FriendStream and Faves work. I got it for free (upgraded my wife's Charm and we switched plans, so I got another phone for free), so I figured I'd keep it or sell it if I don't like it. In fact, I used it for around 2 hours, hated it and went back to my G2. I tried it again the next day and I like it well enough to keep using it.
[myTouch 4G General] raeef:
I got the MT4G few days ago, I also was confused between the G2 and MT4G. I picked the MT because I am going to leave the country soon and I don't want to have replacement problems in case I got the G2 and the hinge turned out to be that bad. I figured out that swype will help me to get rid of my full QWERTY keyboard addiction. I liked the feeling of the MT in the hand, it's more confined. Till now I love the phone. Go and spend time playing with the phones at T mobile, I used each one of them for about half an hour in the store and then I decided.
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
Yes you may think my answer is biased but I had 2 G2's before I got the MT4G and I had a hard time deciding if I wanted to try a third one or go to the MT4G. I never used the HW keyboard and the loose hinges made me sick. So what I finally made my decision on was the Overall potential of the device. The 786 mb of RAM the extra features such as copy and paste and a few other nice things from the mysense. I also knew we would eventually get root and that it was just a matter of time before we have stock gingerbread 2.3 for the MT4G.

On the G2 I had a lot of problems with the signal and losing connection and it staying off or did not switch properly. I also like the lite weight and feel of the MT4G.

Hope this helps you.
[myTouch 4G General] slackerx10:
Jon This is by far the best input I have ever seen on any page....ummmmm...... EVER!!!

Based on reading this and all the other comments I chose the MT4G over the g2 only because the people that were using the G2 were like super nerds and im not one to know how to do like 85% of all those things they do to their phones...

No lie I read this again and again... seriously the best comparison I have ever seen. But I did read everywhere that there is a lot of bloatware... Is there a way to rid the device of this?
[myTouch 4G General] breezy169:
if it comes down to someone who likes to flash roms is the mytouch 4g still better ?

And do ya know which of the 2 phones can overclock more
[myTouch 4G General] student.driver:
If you live by flashing ROMs, then I'd go for the G2 since it has the keyboard (no need for ADB in some cases) and Cyanogen is personally maintaining his distro on that unit the last I checked. I've flashed my G1 and Nexus One, and at this point I have no desire to do it again; I like what the myTouch 4G offers, even if it does have a bit too much bloatware for my liking.
[myTouch 4G General] breezy169:
Oh okk which phone has better battery life anyway?
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
Everyone has an opinion and I think this is a false statement. There are many people with the MT4G flashing and it is easy with root to remove any bloatware you want.

the iced glacier ROM is very good ROM basically a stock ROM with bloatware removed and a OC kernel capable to 1.7 Ghz. Everything works.

We also have 2 new developers who have in the past ported CM to other devices and their devices have already been shipped to them.

And about ADB what is this about? Having a physical or soft keyboard makes no different on which method you use send commands to the system.
[myTouch 4G General] breezy169:
1.7?:o. Can't wait til I get my mytouch but doesn't it kill the battery quicker?
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
You just set up profiles with set CPU and use on demand scaling and set other profiles like for when the screen is off set to 368 mhz etc. Battery life on mine is better than with the G2 and I think it should with a 1500 ma battery.
[myTouch 4G General] breezy169:
Cool . How lonq does it last ? But from what I know doesn't the g2 have 1300 ma nd the mytouch 1400 ma tho
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
Sorry typo.
[myTouch 4G General] student.driver:
Sounds more defensive than anything else. But yes, that's your opinion. I was more interested in getting long term support from Cyanogen, which I believe most people will want. But yes, having the keyboard makes it a lot easier when bouncing around recovery. Then again, I was doing that since the beginning with the first ROMs on the G1, and I lived by the keyboard and didn't have ADB available all the time. But hey, how many ROM cooks are for each platform, and more importantly, which one do you want on your device when you're waiting for driver and application updates? I prefer Enom myself, but I think I'm taking a break from that stuff for now.

Battery life is interesting, in that the G2 was fantasticat less than 1% per hour at idle. I'm waiting to see if the better screen on this mT4G is easy on the battery like the G2 is.
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
As for battery life, I have been up to 60 hours since plugged in and with 29% left. There was a good deal of standby time but this is better than I got with my G2. With heavy to moderate use I can easily get 2 days.
[myTouch 4G General] dustrho:
MyTouch4G all the way baby. Physical keyboards are overrated.
[myTouch 4G General] breezy169:
i heard the g2 has been overclocked to 2ghz.. thats crazy but isnt pretty logical our mytouchs can push to 2.3ghz or somethin? (since our processor is faster straight out of the box?)

but we also have sense which slows our phone alott :/.
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
No the processors are the same just ours is clocked 200 mhz faster. In theory we could probably due the same with some adjusting of kernel and voltages. But I see no reason to more than double the clock speed. It causes overheating if used for periods of time and could be damaging to the device. 1.6-1.7 I think used on demand with temp protect profiles in setcpu is more than we could ask for.
[myTouch 4G General] TeeJay3800:
I don't think they are. The G2 has a MSM7230 Scorpion and the MT4G has a MSM8255 Snapdragon.
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
They are both Scorpion processors. See the specs here:

http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html#specs

there is some debate on if they are actual same processors but labeled differently due to the factory testing. Some batch of processor error out at a higher rate than others. Instead of throw them away they could use them in a 800 mhz device.

I'm not so sure I buy this but as I said it depends on who you talk to as what they think about it.
[myTouch 4G General] slackerx10:
Yeah everyone I talked to who knows a **** ton about the hardware said they were different but some said they were the same so I have no idea who to believe... most were saying that the mt4g had a faster one than the g2 but who really knows for sure?!?! lol
[myTouch 4G General] slackerx10:
Ok how do you set up the profiles??? i am so afraid im going to screw something up and im going to destroy my phone here lol anyone feel like teaching a total noob a thing or two about the setcpu tweaking? I mean I know the basic basic stuff but nothing when it comes to anything other than the processor speed and the on demand stuff.
[myTouch 4G General] bastage:
So I had only used a g2 for a day when my wife 1st got it (she let me play with it for a day because I was waiting for the mt4g) and its a pretty solid phone, what I can tell you for sure though is that she regrets getting it.. She held out for the g2 all the way from her original g1 because she wanted the real keyboard.. now she hardly uses the keyboard as swype works so well for her.
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
I knew nothing about this or Android when I got my G2, only had it 2 weeks. It's not hard but if you need help I will be glad to help you.
[myTouch 4G General] Ducter:
Seems as if the OP has made his mind up already...

Given that though I will still add my input for future users..

My wife had the Vibrant for a few weeks and ended up selling it as the GPS was horrid. The screen was as if you were looking at it with some weird ass sunglasses on, everything had this nasty ass blue tint to it that not matter the settings would still be seen. I went to the T-Mobile store and actually tried 2 other Vibrants, both had the same issues.

It felt as if it was made out of rejected LEGO parts or something, very fragile feeling and I imagined if it was dropped it would fly apart..cant say though as we never dropped it lol. I took the Vibrant, sold it and gave her my Nexus..she is happy now.

My son ordered a MyTouch 4g for himself, and I the G2..his phone...whooaa..what a mess of bloated crap and nasty ass mysense, I mean not even full blown sense that IMO looks so much better but mysense..its like a cheap version of Sense or something, they changed the few things I liked about Sense, the people widget is now favs or something and is annoying, the default wallpaper is a shot of several Zebra's asses that I just found odd, but no big deal to fix...just who would want a picture of Zebra ass??

Screen comparison between the two phones, no contest. The G2 blows it away. The MyTouch suffers from dark colors not really looking dark, it has an overall washed out look to it, the G2 is much better (though neither are as nice as the N1)

Performance wise, you would think the MYT4G would be better, however clocking the G2 to 1GHz they are pretty much on par with each other and I think Androids default task management must work well, as the extram memory on the MYT4G had little to no impact on the overall performance of the phone.

The hinge on the G2 isnt bad at all, it must vary from batch to batch or something as mine is tight and doenst exhibit any of the poor qualities that I have seen people mentioning.

I got the G2 for the keyboads sake...however honestly since rooting the phone I havent used it a lot so I could go without as I have on my other phones and make due just fine...the voice to text is balls on accurate for me and I mainly use it.

I prefer stock Android to any form of Sense, so that may have an impact on my decision making, when I get a phone, I end up making it how I want to see it and honestly outside of the people widget I dont care for Sense..Launcher Pro has all the features I like and isnt as resource hungry as Sense making for a faster user environment IMO.

With all that said, if Cyan makes its way to the MYT4G I may give it another go just to see how they work on an equal platform as my son has one and has been after me to get a ffc. I dont think either device is bad to say, just more of a what do you want to do with it.

EDIT : Oh, and on a side note, the G2 has a FM Radio when running on Cyans.
[myTouch 4G General] breezy169:
I really didn't know they had the same processor .. so basically the only difference from the 2 phones is the keyboard or the front facing camera?
[myTouch 4G General] Ducter:
And the memory, MYT4G having 256 more..
[myTouch 4G General] bobsbbq:
yes and RAM MT4G has 786 mb of Ram compared to 512 on the G2. And I though I was only in love with vanilla android and had the same worries about my sense. But I can tell you it isn't bad at all and brings some features which vanilla android doesn't have like copy and paste text then a search. I can score almost 2800 in Quadrant so I don't think the my sense has any effect on performance, if it does then our device will get even faster with CM which will be out soon.