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[Nexus One General] Prod1702:
Well i plan on getting one. My wife is going to take my N1. My N1 pretty much hates everything i want to do with it. It wont OC pass 1036mhz without locking up. It has 2 bad blocks so bigger boot files wont work, and the touchscreen is the worse part of the phone. It always goes crazy for me. Don't get me wrong the N1 is a great phone. I work for T-Mobile and I can tell you that there is no area right now in the US that has data speeds faster then what the NS can do, and what i plan on doing is just opening a new contract with T-Mobile and moving the line to a employee line and paying less. This way i pay $199 instead of $529. Yes it is not HSPA+, but when you want the faster speeds use Wifi. Also i think of it this way. The CPU/GPU are better then the N1. So that means to me that if i want to play better games they will run better. When the Dual Core phones come out 3 months after the 1st one there will be a better one. I could really care less about the bluetooth. Only time my bluetooth is turned on is to use the FM radio. Right now I have a class 6 16gb SD card in my phone which is about 50% full and i am using app2sd as well. I do like the fact that the screen is a little bit larger not much but a little bit. The Anti-fingerprint display coating sounds pretty dam cool as well. Also the only time I use the trackball is for waking the phone and moving around in the recovery. Since the power button sucks. So i feel that the upgrade from a N1 to a NS is big enough for me to change.
[Nexus One General] CiDhed:
Nobody said otherwise.
[Nexus One General] Prod1702:
miss post sry
[Nexus One General] CiDhed:
Server lag...
[Nexus One General] darkninja157:
Nope for one I'm on at&t so I'm not gonna do anything to loose 3G like switching to the current Nexus S. And two I really see the Nexus S as a lateral shift and not a true upgrade or successor. If/When Google releases a Nexus 4G I will pick it up, until then if I want a "Nexus S" I'll use my upgrade on at&t and get a captivate :p .

Still I plan on keeping my Nexus One until 4G becomes widespread. Plus you just can't beat the feel of the Nexus One in your hand. Beats the junk out of the plastic Samsung phones :D .
[Nexus One General] Balkin:
No chance I love my N1 on ATT and will not upgrade for at least another year! By then phones will take us to space! ;)
[Nexus One General] dfw06:
To be honest, how many of you actually use the front facing camera? Sure you might, but it's more of a fancy feature. Maybe in time, all phone have video calls...then people start using it. Just not quiet there yet.

The samsung 1Ghz is no doubt faster than the Snapdragon, not by much. Nexus S is solid, and the N1 is not far behind. I was hoping the S comes with HSPA+ to work on Tmobile new network, however it's major let down. So there ...no thanks. I'll wait for the next major release.

Did I mention that i like the trackball notification led??:D
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
I can see that... but will it have OEM docks at all...? That's my question. The desktop dock is an absolute necessity...and I do happen to use my car dock for the N1 very frequently.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Its not just the presence of a light. It'd the multicolored aspect that makes notifications so great.

I dont think amoled is capable but turning on only certain pixels on screen would be a great way to notify.

i.e green 4 for four new gmails..blue number for missed calls.
[Nexus One General] markzip:
Nope

No HSPA+ for US T-Mobile.

No external storage? None? The Nexus 1 did not have enough on board, but at least we can expand it to 32g

Headphone jack on the bottom is not great for me, as I use the Square for charging customers.

I know it's not too popular, but I *like* the trackball!

They are hyping the fact that it will be released with 2.3, but we know that regular Nexus 1's will get that too.

Let's face it, it's only a small evolution. Larger screen and front facing camera are not enough of an advance. Hell, I had a front facing camera on my N95 and my N97 and I probably used them a maximum of 10 times.

Nope, I won't be giving up my N1 for the Nexus S
[Nexus One General] adil06944:
Big disappointment

First of all, I love my N1 and sorry for the long post but i have to vent.

I bought a Nexus One in February when it came for T-mobile only and then gave it away to my brother in law who had T-Mobile when the AT&T N1 came out and bought that. My contract with AT&T has been up for a couple of months now and i was really hoping for a device (from google) that would be better than the N1 (for future proofing for at least 6 months).

Well this device is better than the N1 but not enough to ditch the N1 and get this. Here are the reasons:

Biggest disappointment: Only a 5 MP camera still? Come on Google? The EVO has an 8MP camera and has been out for months. I know phone cameras really aren't meant to replace traditional digital cameras but my sisters EVO takes pictures that are great (in the correct light) and if i had that i wouldn't even buy a new digital camera.

Second biggest disappointment: Not CDMA. I want to switch to sprint or verizon. If Google/ Samsung comes out with a CDMA version i might overlook the other disappointments and ditch the N1.

Now other reasons why Nexus S is not really that much better than the N1 to warrant another $529.

Processor: I don't know too much about the speed difference in the processors but i'm assuming they will roughly perform the same. However, i think within next couple of months new Android / Non-Android phones will come out with better processors and this will be outdated. I must add though, i haven't really seen any lag on the 1 ghz.

Video: I'm guessing the Nexus S will record 720p video, but so does my N1 (with cyanogen) and so does the EVO and many many other devices. 1080 would have been the next step and another reason i might have upgraded. Not on my top priority list though.

I don't really care that much about that NFC thing. I am curious to try it, but not enough to shell out $529 (i don't want contracts). Once more vendors support this it will become more important but not at this point.

Nexus S will probably be better for 3D gaming as the GPU on N1 supposedly sucks. I'm assuming the gingerbread advantage for 3d gaming will also be applicable to N1 but Nexus S will probably have a better GPU. I don't care about this too much because i don't play much 3d games on phones anyway but other people might weigh this more.
[Nexus One General] laslow:
Between the Desktop Dock, the Car Dock, the micro SD card slot, and the trackball, I'll be sticking with my AT&T Nexus One. As many others have said, I'll be waiting for an HTC dual-core rebuttal.
[Nexus One General] wang1404:
I'm not falling for the nexus s at all. First I don't like the galaxy s when it came out already, so made from galaxy s stock is just a copy, nothing revolutionary here. Hardware wise, a front camera and a curved glass wont do the trick either. NFC support is really neat but just not now at the moment. I am really disappointed at google for accepting this piece of crap as their next baby. I was hoping the dual core version rumor was true. But its all in the past now since its already official. Keeping my nexus one and only!
[Nexus One General] krabman:
What bothers me is that I was set on picking up the next developer phone thinking it would be an upgrade. This scarcely is and fails to ring my bell. Where I'm going is that the next handset becomes a question mark, have no idea what's next but I do know it hasn't been announced yet.
[Nexus One General] masterpfa:
NO

Nice as it is I cannot warrant the jump from my Nexus 1 and the custom ROMS currently available, to a phone, which I must admit has superior hardware, that just doesn't light my fire enough.

With rumours of Dual Cores etc due in the very near future I might just give this one a miss for now, unless of course I can pick one up of ebay for a more palatable £300 or so....

I feel Google and Samsung brought out a phone with the "Minimum" specs. they would like to see future phones with, as opposed to demonstrating what could be possible by introducing a dual core processor or similar hardware configuration.

Check out the comparison between the two here

P.S. I think Google could have just pushed 2.3 to our Nexus 1's and worked on a phone deserving the mantle of the N1's successor and probably running Honeycomb instead of this release. Personally it has failed to impress
[Nexus One General] antiochasylum:
Everyone is *****ing about the nexus s, yet I bet 1/2 of the people will still get one, just to say they have the new nexus s.

Remember the vibrant and team whiskey? 1600mhz on that phone with the hummingbird processor.

Now as far as it being a failship, no. The N1 set the bar for smart phones for a year, and honestly its still better than 50% of the android powered devices out there. I am disappointed with this release, yes, however it still it supported by google, and will still get everything first as does the N1.

Honestly I will probably get one for the hummingbird and the 4inch screen. And as far as no SD storage spot, do you REALLY need more than 16 gigs on a phone? Its not made for movies, lets not get to far from the fact it still is a phone.

Dual core would have been nice, however maybe samsung isnt ready to release it yet. If they release it on ATT, its a 50/50 chance I will get one. Just because it is still a Nexus. Successor or not.
[Nexus One General] descendency:
Google said this will be the trend setter for the coming months for android phones.

I really hope not, because it's a Galaxy S with NFC and a curved screen (minus an micro-SD card spot...). In a few months after everyone recovers from Christmas, there will be phones 3-4 times more powerful than the Nexus S, sadly.
[Nexus One General] sheik124:
Not worth the upgrade, at all. I could barely stomach the $500 Google wanted for the Nexus One (on at&t, don't want an iPhone), but at least I felt like I got something for it.

Number one qualm: materials. Google made a huge fuss about how the Nexus One was made exactly the way they wanted it and bla bla bla and now we have a flagship device that's covered in the same tacky finish as a Galaxy S. No thanks. My N1 should keep me going for a while.
[Nexus One General] donutman:
No HSPDA+ is a deal breaker for me. As of now, I'm leaning towards the G2.
[Nexus One General] player911:
I'm not switching from my Nexus One. I absolutely LOVE this phone. Once we get Gingerbread the differences between the N1 and the NS quickly vanishes.
[Nexus One General] davados:
I'm sure Google and Sammy have rushed this phone just to get it out before Christmas to try and cash in, in the process they are missing out alot of key features and basic features imo. Just hope people aren't dragged into buying it just because its a Google phone.
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
well, Nexus 3 is not coming in near future, so its this or Nexus One for "pure android"
[Nexus One General] dinan:
Will definitely be getting the Nexus S, but also keeping my N1 for nostalgic reasons... and it's still a damn good phone.
[Nexus One General] te_quiero_forever_girl:
Sorry but u might get it wrong. The cpu on the nexus S is WAY better than one on N1.
[Nexus One General] Nitin985:
But the latest snapdragon us way better
[Nexus One General] Nickman1:
No way, No how. The Nexus one build quality sets it apart from the pack. Plus we are finally seeing truly optimized ROMs for this year old juggernaut.

I can wait for the summer influx of dual core phones as well.

My next Android purchase will most certainly be a Tablet.
[Nexus One General] jasrups:
The Nexus S is the best phone on the market right now.. That said, it's still not worthy of an upgrade from the Nexus. I'd rather wait for Dual-Cores
[Nexus One General] MoogooGai:
check this out @ 1:07 you get to see the difference in performance with the processor the nexus one currently has and the processor the nexus S is coming with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5quGE0YbE8

I'm curious, does the nexus S have true multi-touch screen? Unlike the Nexus one which only is able to find 2 fingers and the touch kind of sucks compared to the iPhone.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Yes, it has true multitouch, which is why the Nexus One won't support ALL Google Maps 5.0 features, some of which require true multitouch.
[Nexus One General] slipshft:
It will take more than what the Nexus S has to make me get rid of my Nexus One. My Nexus One does everything I want it to do, maybe next year sometime I will replace it, but right now i will hold out for something better. You know it will come.
[Nexus One General] uansari1:
Um, no. Even the 2nd generation Snapdragon just keeps up with the Hummingbird.
[Nexus One General] MoogooGai:
Thanks, that's exciting.

Here is my 2 cents. The Nexus One is an awesome phone but like all things, it has it's flaws. Where I think Google really messed up is not thinking one-step ahead of Apple.

All iPhone users really wanted was a front-facing camera, and all non iPhone (at the time) users wanted true multi-touch phone, two things Google failed to implement on the Nexus One.

If Google would have implemented both of these features on the Nexus One, Google would have changed the mobile game to their favor and would have set a whole new standard and perhaps would have put Android in a faster paced usage.

Now it just seems every mobile company is just trying to do what Apple does, using the iPhone as a template. What happen to true innovation?
[Nexus One General] bradsh1:
I use my trackball too much to give it up
[Nexus One General] DarkDvr:
Pay $529 for same specs when there are phones with dual core CPUs just around the corner?

Plus 800x480 just doesn't quite cut it anymore... I wants me some 1280x800.
[Nexus One General] Welshy992:
Nexus s has dlna
[Nexus One General] SoberGuy:
I'm with you. When looking at what should be out in Q1, I can't justify the Nexus S. I'd rather wait an extra 4 to 8 weeks (maybe longer, sadly) and get something that will have better overall specs. Granted that will probably mean running a custom ROM to get rid of bloatware/Sense/TouchWiz/whatever.
[Nexus One General] Wisefire:
The only reason I have for really wanting one, is pure Google.

Simple as that.
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
If someone wants to use t-zones on a SuperAMOLED then the Nexus S is the only way to go...

Dual core be damned I am NOT paying $60 -70/mo!!!
[Nexus One General] Dai323:
Nice responses guys! Keep em coming!!

And yeah, I feel the same as most of you..my only reason for being interested is vanilla android..as far as specs and **shudders** a Samsung phone, I vote HELL TO THE NOES.

This phone aint worth giving up the Nexus One. Not by a long shot.
[Nexus One General] FishFan319:
I'll never buy Samsung again. I was a part of that debacle and web-wide revolt before switching over.
[Nexus One General] zer0day:
Nope.

There's nothing in Nexus S that's compelling enough for an update.
[Nexus One General] lambasurm:
as i work in a noisy environment, i need the active voice cancellation of the N1

...so it wouldn't be much of an upgrade for me :rolleyes:

besides, i think that google screwed HTC over with the switch to samsung as the developer for the next nexus phone

...and because of that HTC will soon unveil the real Nexus 2, which they more than likely had in development :cool:
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs

It says Software noise-cancellation. Is it different from the N1's active noise-cancellation?
[Nexus One General] te_quiero_forever_girl:
Sorry for interjecting, but here is what i think. If ur planning on keeping your nexus one and not doing a trade in, you should wait for better phones. But if you r planning to sell your nexus one and get another phone, then i think you should sell it now and get the Nexus S since the nexus one value is still relatively high at the moment. If you hold on to your N1 till a phone that is better than the Nexus S comes out, you wont be getting much selling your N1. So swap now, then once better phones come out after the nexus s, you still can sell ur Nexus S at a high price :)
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
I'm still in shock that Google/Samsung had the entire last year to come up with something that would make us go WOW, and this is what they came up with?

Not even an HD display??? There is nowhere NEAR enough of an upgrade in specs here to justify carrying around a cheap looking and feeling device.

Hopefully Google is already seeing the displeasure and is going to make sure and not disappoint next time. I'm keeping my N1 until something jaw-dropping comes out. That is the ONLY way I can let go of my N1.
[Nexus One General] lambasurm:
active noise cancellation has proven itself to me, no-one has ever complained over not hearing me

software-based noise removal always tends to have some quirks, i'm not saying it's bad (better than nothing), but software can't replace hardware ;)
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
I was walking thru a parking lot talking on the Nexus and the wind was blowing like a *****...I stopped and asked the person: do you hear anything besides my voice? He said no. :D I know it has noise cancellation but even I was surprised the caller was not hearing SOMETHING with all that wind blowing.
[Nexus One General] avio07:
You all know slowly Google will be focusing on Nexus S updates and less on Nexus One now, they want to sell more units, not keep old unit owners happy.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Doesn't matter, most of us here have custom ROMs. I'm just now upgrading to CM6.1 and even it has 720p recording and FM radio....among many other things that even the NS WILL NOT HAVE at launch.

What we are pissed about is the hardware specs on the NS and Google cannot update those after the fact. XDA is all we need for software. :)
[Nexus One General] mrbkkt1:
Nope. Skip a generation. Maybe The next one after the s.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
i know its a company and "who cares", but really it makes me sad that google took a great idea of the nexus line and degraded it like this. the nexus one was a desired phone, build materials blew people away, and you just WANTED that phone. the nexus S doesnt seem to have any of that. i dont DESIRE this phone like i did the nexus, and hell i still prefer the nexus one for all those reasons. why google would you go this route?! ah well...more phones to come. HTC will come thru soon enough...
[Nexus One General] FastMhz:
Here's a quick comparison... pretty plain jane.

http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20024750-251.html
[Nexus One General] bcpk:
Plenty of comparison pics here http://www.mobile-review.com/review/google-nexus-s.shtml
[Nexus One General] gcng:
the 'S' in Nexus S stands for 'sucks'

i love my Nexus One!
[Nexus One General] Eclair~:
I wasn't going to jump in on the "plastic bashing", but the Nexus S is definitely a fingerprint magnet.. it looks like there is a case on the device, honestly.
[Nexus One General] SphericalPuma:
I'm going to sell my nexus one for a s and actually I currently have my nexus one up for sale on eBay with a lot of extras thrown in (free car and desktop dock, extended battery, and rubber case).

I know a lot of people here complain about the dual-core, the plastic, etc. The thing for me is that it's T-mobile 3g, it'll always get the latest updates, and the digitizer isn't crap. BTW if anyone wants to bid on my auction it's at http://goo.gl/sBf0z I'm sure there are plenty of people out there looking for a nexus one.
[Nexus One General] sstang2006:
Hope you sell it good. I sold mine yesterday after I heard that Nexus S was coming out next week. It only lasted 30 minutes on Ebay. Sold it for $380 + $14 shipping. (Phone and Car Dock).
[Nexus One General] Android Touch:
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, man do I feel bad for the people who are keeping their Nexus One's over this.

I hope they know that Honeycomb is ALL about the GPU with the major UI overhaul. It's gonna have that 3D gallery look and that's gonna require a strong GPU like we saw yesterday with the Moto tablet. And due to the Nexus One having a terrible GPU, it's gonna run horrible. Even worse, it probably will get a stripped down version of it. Heck it already can't handle the next version of Google Maps.

Guys GET RID OF IT WHILE IT HAS VALUE!
[Nexus One General] TailsNeon556:
i feel bad for people dropping $530usd on this reformed galaxy s when in the coming months.. it will be far eclipsed by newer hardware :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] arkavat:
Nexus S does not have a GPU stronger than Moto tablet. actually much weaker.

By the time Honeycomb comes out, I will be buying a HSPA+ supporting, dual core, HDMI equipped, SMOLED2 display, 32GB storage equipped phone. Then I will LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[Nexus One General] greenstuffs:
El que rie ultimo rie mejor :p
[Nexus One General] jamesfrom818:
The only reason it can't handle 5.0 Maps is the bad touchscreen.

Anyway, I'm picking up a used G2 for a decent price. I've always wanted a hardware keyboard. HSPA+ is a plus as well. I'll probably look to get another phone if HTC ever decides to make a 4.3 inch screen with a hardware keyboard for T-Mobile.
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Its a catch 22. N1 wont be worth as much...but there's likely hood therell be some very impressive hardware out with Honeycomb.

There really isn't that much of a difference to be lmao about anything. You'll spend more money upgrading twice in the next few months than just holding on the the n1.
[Nexus One General] jasrups:
Here's the buying guide:

If you don't have a smart phone or are coming from a first gen Android phone (ie. G1, Magic) - Get the Nexus S, it's the best phone out right now.

If you have a 2nd gen phone (Nexus One, Evo, G2 etc.) - KEEP your phone. While the Nexus S is better, even better phones are just around the corner, that is a guarantee. When I upgrade phones, I want the difference to be substantial (ie. going from a G1 to a N1).

If you have a 2nd gen phone but have a few hundred dollars to throw around - Sure, what the hell, get the Nexus S. Just know that in a few months you'll most likely be itching for a new phone again. If you can can afford that then more power to you.

If you have an iPhone 4 - go kill yourself ;)
[Nexus One General] Lord_Buckington:
My problem is that the N1 is sure to be losing money in the coming months, but that will probably happen before the new wave of hardware comes out with dual core, etc, etc.

I actually quite like the Nexus S, and I think that if Google created it as a developer phone for at least the next 12 months it's not going to be rapidly outdated within that period.
[Nexus One General] StefanSarzio:
I still prefer the Nexus One.

I would miss the dock pins and the status led.
[Nexus One General] jatinps:
i though over this but i don't think i will be moving away from my nexus one - its hardly 9 months old and will be getting 2.3. I am sure google does not expect all their developers to suddenly move to nexus s. So for now there are 2 official google dev phones and I am on one of them - so all good for now :)

agreed that when i am ready to ditch the nexus one there will be something much better than nexus s, perhaps a new official google phone :p
[Nexus One General] SoberGuy:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Google have two new official devices in the next 3 or 4 months. I think Honeycomb is getting some polishing, and as it will work on both phones and tablets, I personally think we'll see a Google (Honeycomb) Experience phone and tablet. I have no reason to believe that, no inside information or rumors or sources. Call me crazy, but I expect a GHE dual-core phone (HTC) and a tablet (probably Moto??).