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[Epic 4G Android Development] troyolson92:
By the way finally gave up on lagfix app do to memory issues prior to and after utilizing it.

1) Without lagfix quadscores on this rom are 900's but feels good (not speedy but good).

2) 2.1 baked snack 1100 and felt faster!

3) Another dk28 rom updated on the 8th quad score was over 2600, but felt really slow!

Just posting some real numbers and real word speed feel. Clearly option 2 has easily been the fastest rom and kernal built so far. Can't wait for 2.2 kernal changes to really get 2.2 feeling fast! I must say great work to all rom builders especially viper team with heavy theme and putting together the most complete 2.2 rom thus far (in my opinion).
[Epic 4G Android Development] Strange Brew:
Dude that's because quad scores are fakeable. The high number ones are untrue. Quantum has already proven that. Read threw his roms thread if you want to see how.

And by the way viper guys, great rom! Loving the look and all the extras. Thanks for all your hard work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
Its slower because we have no custom kernels, because we don't have the source.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Elazgar:
Is anyone else suffering from hot resets and radio fail? Been running this (3.0) since the post date and just started trippin out I guess monday or sunday. Radio fail as in any 3g signal but nothin that requires it loads, I have to full reboot after a failure to restore service.

Sent from one of my Harems
[Epic 4G Android Development] johnyardavid:
Dude, this rom is way faster than any 2.1, including baked snack. I don't know why your experience is as such. I always use launcher pro and increase the app drawer speed and scrolling speed. Then I use spare parts and change the transition and window speeds to fast. The only issue I had before was slow rotation. I didn't think the sensor calibration helped it until I realized that sometimes it takes more than once, and you have to ensure that your surface truly is level. After that I have a smoother functioning phone than ever. Oh and btw with the lagfix, why not just use apps2sd and set default to external? Then when you restore apps through w/e program it will place them all on the sdcard, no issues. Finally I always remove a couple more keys apps that I don't want or need, ie drm stuff and stock email. Hopefully you can try some of this and have a better experience :)

Ps if you like the way TW launcher looks (which I do) you can change the icons to the TW ones and it will look almost the same plus you can throw browser or some other fifth little app you like
[Epic 4G Android Development] Cam3ron1:
I get 1700+ quad on 3.0 with lagfix
[Epic 4G Android Development] CO pitbull:
Can anyone tell me if the TV out is working in this ROM?

Thank You,
[Epic 4G Android Development] jemarent:
gps?

any luck with fixing the gps lock besides starting from stock and reflashing all the updates? Also, has anyone else experienced the issue with the dialer that i mentioned a few post back. It just happened again to me. i went to make a call and my phone is just silent. The time counter just keeps going. Soon as i toggled the speaker phone on and off, i could hear the phone call just fine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NetMedic:
Missing App

I have successfully rooted my phone and have clockwork 3 installed. I started with ViperRom Trinity and had no issues. I then went to ViperRom Apocolypse and had now issues. The only thing I noticed was that the email app for exchange/active sync was missing.

I don't see it in the stock andorid or stock sprint apps posted in the thread. Any idea how I can get this back. I love the rom mod and hate the idea of changing it back but access to my corporate email is a must. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.:cool:
[Epic 4G Android Development] jemarent:
there's a link to the email app somewhere in this thread. I'm currently using it with this rom and it works flawless. I noticed you must have the email app in order to sync my exchange calendar as otherwise it only allows google and facebook calendars to sync.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jemarent:
email app would be a good one for the VIPERstore...

as well as a working gingerbread keyboard
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
Curious why the gingerbread keyboard is so sought after...what's wrong with the 2.2 Swype?
[Epic 4G Android Development] jemarent:
i thought the predictive text was very good on the gingerbread(from the little time i spent with it). I do love swype though and may switch right back, but would like some time with gingerbread keyboard to see if i really like it. I was going to install swiftkey, but read that the gingerbread was a better option.
[Epic 4G Android Development] woodyth:
UPDATE!

PDAnet works great for wired tether! using it right now!

Woody

BT......... When do I get to play with C?????? I want to stay up with the updates but also want to make sure I got internet tommrow!!!!! LMK
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rodderik:
im trying to include some extra goodies into c before it gets pushed out for testing

and yes i put the stock email app back in for you guys as well

right now im trying to hash out a good battery pop up killer

i didnt sleep last night and have been working on c for you guys for about 20 hours now so i'm working a little slow but still chugging along

you guys know BT had to ship his epic off to sprint for a replacement right?
[Epic 4G Android Development] EpicUser:
Is there anyway to get the stock froyo music player back on my epic? I really dislike this new player considering there is no equalizer!
[Epic 4G Android Development] jemarent:
Your work is much appreciated Rodderick.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
Surely... download the updated "viperstore" from the market... all the stock apps are in there... and ill make sure its back in there for the next update.

Sent From My Viper Powered Eliminator.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jjjjayd13:
ETA?

BT any ETA? for next update/revision, anything!!!

TIA,

jjjjayd13, :cool:
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
It's been put back in for 4.0.2c ...should be out soon. Rodderik is working on it and he's a genius when it comes to theming so you know it'll be worth the wait :)

Sent From My Viper Powered Eliminator.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
Soon... and its ext4/rfs dual boot compatible. You can run either or.

Sent From My Viper Powered Eliminator.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rodderik:
i posted an update just a few posts ago...please read mo' betta
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rodderik:
ill put it into 4.0.2c now before i fall asleep in my chair and forget
[Epic 4G Android Development] jubi23:
I'm having the same problem, and i'm not totally sure what i'm suppose to do

does this mean i Odin in one of these roms?

http://xdaforums.com/wiki...#Official_ROMs

I can't even get into any rom, i'm stuck in recovery everytime it turns on right now :-/
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
You don't need to be able to boot your phone. Just need to be able to get into download mode (hold 1 & power), so you can Odin.

Here's what I did to get from stock DI18 to Viper 4.0.2b:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=ht...t=2663&usg=AFQjCNGCp6eMdTnTGLqCXoJ1BtIwVm3pWg

I did not reformat b/c I've only ever been on VIPER ROMs, but people have had success reformatting their SD card during this process.

Also, it may not be wise to go through all of this mess until 4.0.2c is released soon. You may as well start out with a fresh odin when you upgrade to 4.0.2c.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rodderik:
open clockwork and goto advanced>reboot recovery then try to flash again and you wont get the copy_dir errors

or just wait till 4.0.2c is released...i'm almost done testing it myself then i will need a couple more testers on viperchat in about 2 hours...if everything is good then i'll release it
[Epic 4G Android Development] jjjjayd13:
Which Post?

Which post? Where?

jjjayd13,
[Epic 4G Android Development] jjjjayd13:
mo' betta then WHAT?

mo' betta then WHAT??

ha, ha, ha,

are you loyfao?;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Strange Brew:
I may have missed it somewhere, but is there (or going to be) a non ext4 version? Seems every rom for the epic has gone ext4 :(.

If this has the ability for non ext4, are there different steps needed or just flash viper.zip in cwm?

Thanks in advance.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
BT just updated with some info 7-8 posts ago =]

Will have the ability to do either/or once 4.0.2c drops
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
Yes... in order to run 4.0.2c you will first have to upgrade to cwm 3.0.0.5... then just flash the ROM :) ...you can run either or.

Sent From My Viper Powered Eliminator.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
Here's something new for us... I'm going to ask you guys what you want in a ROM... if there's enough votes for something, we'll throw it in!

Sent From My Viper Powered Eliminator.
[Epic 4G Android Development] abro22:
For clockwork 3.0.0.5, do you have to flash that separately or is that going to be part of 4.0.2c?
[Epic 4G Android Development] SilverJester:
I think I found a bug

One thing I noticed with 4.02b (maybe the same in a) is that I have the same beautiful widget clock that you have as a screen shot in the first post. I can touch on the weather and calendar and they work, but I tried to click on the clock (to set an alarm) and it doesn't do anything. I dunno how or why but it seems the link to the "clock" app doesn't work, so it's an extra step to set alarms (having to go trough the app drawer now).

Hopefully this is an easy fix for 4.0.2c :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] jemarent:
I don't believe there's a clock app in this rom. I use Alarm Clock Plus and it's a great alarm. you can map it to your BW widget too. Check your app drawr and see if there's a clock in there.

BT: I like the idea of asking what the community wants in their rom. We just need a nice structured format to gather these request. What's the status on the viper blog/wiki?
[Epic 4G Android Development] NetMedic:
Outstanding. Thank you. I found an email.apk file but it had been modded to remove the exchange security. As a sys admin, I can't use something like that, but your Roms are fantastic. My Epic feels more like my phone now than a sprint phone. Keep up the outstanding work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
I have Fancy Widgets Pro & tried to recreate this, but it does work when I click my time to go to the "Clock" app. I do remember that I had to set it to accomplish this behavior. Perhaps you have to do the same with beautiful widgets in the settings?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Whosdaman:
Let me ask one more time, do I need to pull this ROM or is everyone fine with it? I've been investigating this ROM and it seems numerous people have been having problems with the ROM but others are doing just fine with it.

Please respond as soon as possible.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
I think that would be a bad/premature move. Should have a new version rolling out that remedies various problems.

Also, as a frequenter of this thread, the majority of problems I've seen have been user-based errors. Especially those trying to come straight over from other ROMs...aka, they mucked up their devices and are too lazy to Odin and start fresh.

And on another note, a large portion of the problems are people trying to Odin in general, which isn't related to the ROM.

...on a third note, why come in out of the blue and ask to pull the most popular Epic ROM? Especially when people are more apt to post when they have problems than when they don't?
[Epic 4G Android Development] insanity213:
+1 on all of this. The ROM is fine. The 4.0.2a/b install is a bit more involved, but as long as the directions are followed it works just as it should.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NetMedic:
Ok, hopefull the last question on this. When I try to install any of them(ex: BuddiesNow). The download goes ok but when I try to install, the install fails with "Application Not Installed". Do I need to use a particular installer. When I click on the .apk file, the stock installer starts but fails. I was able to install a couple of the stock sprint apps I like. Any thoughts?
[Epic 4G Android Development] yogi2010:
no way, please don't pull!! i had no problems loading it, and my Epic runs WAAAAAY better than out of the box.
[Epic 4G Android Development] crodgers79:
The ROM itself is fine. The poroblems all began with the move to EXT4 and the requirement to have two versions of Clockwork on your device. Those of us early adopters of the "b" version had pretty clear instructions from the OP to follow. What I've seen here is a continual "How do I flash" or "My flash failed at line.." many of which are due to the fact that they're trying to flash with the incorrect version of clockwork. some also have moved onto CW3 and those folks as well are chiming in with "Will this work?" type of questions. Bottom-line is that BT posted good instructions on Day One of the "b" release, if you follow those instructions you generally have no problem, if you don't and many have repeated other ways to do things that aren't necessarily correct, then problems result.

I'm eager to see the "c" version and how this all plays out. Keep in-mind that the OP no longer has his Epic and is awaiting a replacmeent from Sprint so this may have added to the delay in getting out a "c" version which may or may not address all of these problems.

This Dev and his Support Team are great; my personal oinion is that in the rush to get to EXT4 performance the team just didn't realize what confusion would be caused by having two versions of Clockwork on the same device with only one version working after upgrading to the "b" version.

Respectfully submitted,

Chris R.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mohwak:
NO!!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] windex:
May I ask why you would pull a ROM thats a WIP? I would expect everyone to understand that anything they do with any of these roms is at their own risk. I'm on 4.0.1 with a few minor issues but the rom works. Of course I followed the direction to a 't' when installing. Plus I think the viper team offers excellent support and are doing a lot to make sure everyone has as smooth a process using this rom as possible. Just my .02.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Baldor:
This "ROM" needs to be pulled for several more reasons than just that. BThomas and the whole Viper team have this weird habit of claiming work from other developers (both here for the Epic 4G and across XDA as a whole) as their own original content. Look at the main post, ffs. BThomas' Apps2SD? Bull****. All he did was port it, and shoddily at best. It doesn't even work. Yeah, he references DarkTremor, but still claims it as his own. This is unacceptable.

On top of that, we in the IRC for the Samsung Epic are sick and tired of dealing with the people coming in and asking for help with this poor excuse for a ROM.

Why should a user have to Odin before installing a new ROM? That's straight-up garbage. Are you new to Android? Go look at every other phone. HTC users don't have to RUU before flashing a new ROM, why should we have to Odin? Clockwork has all the tools necessary to successfully switch ROMs. That's the point of it. It's especially true for this phone when 90% of the ROMs are nothing more than themes and bloatware removal.

BThomas, get your **** together and admit you barely know what you're doing. You causing headaches for a large amount of users and then dumping them on the rest of us. You can't even write a proper update-script.

EDIT: In addition, great work on making the "custom recovery" that locked users into your ROM. Great job there ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
How about you MAN-UP and tell us your real name? First-time poster BALDOR?

Give me a break. You obviously are another DEV or MOD who has a personal vendetta.

Grow up.
[Epic 4G Android Development] PlackSlayer:
Wow. Leave the drama at home. If you have issues with BT - PM him.

This rom has done me right. Followed the directions while installing and it was simple.

I have been using Viper for a while and have always enjoyed it. Don't pull something that people are using, enjoying, and that is consistently updated.

--PS
[Epic 4G Android Development] viper134:
Don't Pull Rom

I like viper's rom alot. I also feel that there are other reasons behind this, especially since vipers is currently the best rated rom on the epic thread by a significant margin.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sweepingzero:
Find the 8g md5 file. I always eget that using that md5 so I use the 8g-rel.tar.md5 and it works perfectly
[Epic 4G Android Development] Wilsonb:
Did the 4.0.2b break the Live wallpaper? Maybe I missed it... I can't find it.

The wife is looking forward to wifi tether again

Tanx..
[Epic 4G Android Development] jaekebbler:
BT, Thanks Big Homie.

Rodderick = I appreciated the hard work and dedication.

Something Epic for the Epic!!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] NetMedic:
Agreed. No reason to pull it. I installed the rom with no issue and its awesome.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SilverJester:
Ah you're right. There is a setting to set the clock program...it just needed to be selected in the preferences. Thanks!

Live wallpaper isn't broken, but it's not installed by default. You can download it through the viper store and install it by flashing via clockwork.
[Epic 4G Android Development] swp22:
Sounds like someones Donations have slacked off and hes blaming other dev's for it LOL
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
No wonder the epic has such poor community support... after 4.0.2c drops, I'm not sure if ill do any more... I did all this for free, on my own time, and without anyone asking... then people come out of the bushes with "should I pull this Rom because of problems" ...did you threaten to pull any of the other roms people were having issues with?... and as for baldor... why not just say who you are... its the internet, really... I'm never gonna see you, man up.

And yes... I did port a2sd, and I still gave him credit for original script work... but when I change it to work how I want it to work, does that not make it part mine as well??

Seriously, ill be thinking whether I want to continue in this drama filled atmosphere... what really gets me is this is supposed to be a community... you know... everyone working together, but for some strange reason everyone thinks this is a competition... even when people came asking for stuff and they are running quantum or bonsaii, I never turn them away or get upset... I help them because that's how a community is supposed to act... not like it does not with high school games. This is ridiculous.

My intention with this post was not to lash back at anyone, it was simply to defend myself as well as my team. We've never trash talked anyone else, like some people have done on the epic chat. We mind our own business and don't bother anyone... but I'm tired of defending myself with these "issues" when I look at the quantum thread and he's having just as many issues. Kinda one sided. Its apparent that ya'll don't want me here... but answer a question if you will...

What did I ever do to you?
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
I never once claimed I made the custom recovery... infact believe gave credit to daemon for that... but way to know what you're talking about before you accuse someone of something. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] raylusk:
Why would you pull it? If the directions are followed, it works great. You will find that those that are having problems frequently didn't follow the directions. Or they are using clockwork mod version 3. I haven't seen anyone that has permanently bricked their phone because of this rom. This is a development forum isn't it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] cerebralzulu:
I see no need to pull this ROM. Every ROM that I have used has had people citing problems they are having and looking for remedies. If that amount seems unusually high for this ROM, it may be in direct proportion to the number of people using it. More people = more problems. If it were universal I could understand the statement. But it isn't at all.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Wilsonb:
Come on BThomas22x , don't take the childish drama personal..

You can't please everyone and there will always be off the wall folks out there..

just see peopleofwalmart.c om ;-)

I'm sure you learned a lot doing this Rom and you are helping A LOT of folks who do appreciate it..
[Epic 4G Android Development] raylusk:
Man I do not understand why a few people are attacking you and the viper team. The ROM is great and the directions for flashing it are long but if you follow them carefully they work. Every ROM has issues. This is a DEVELOPMENT Community. Their are risks involved but they are all manageable. I don't think I have seen anyone truly brick their phone while flashing your rom. I for one have looked and read about the other roms but my phone is working so well, I see no reason to change. People have issues with every rom on this forum. It is the nature of doing this kind of stuff.

As to if you should leave, I wouldn't blame you if you did. However, if you do you will let just a couple of people drive you away. Remember you and your team have a lot of supporters. Thanks for everything you have done. It is appreciated.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
Before anyone else comes on here pissing and moaning about dealing with n00bs, and problems, and whatever else you want to complain about...why don't you read the latest sticky:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=904787

Talks of 'development', learning, failing, progress...that's what this is all about right?

No single ROM can be held responsible for people who aren't willing to learn what they are doing (or aren't doing correctly).

Baldor, if people come to your ROM thread or IRC chat asking for help with Viper, send 'em back. We're happy to have them.

And BT...this is a bunch of silliness. Don't let a couple tools crowd out all the people who are enjoying Viper Team's awesome work, and are willing to help out along the way.

In the coming weeks/months, Viper ROM will evolve into more than just a thread with a ROM, I'll bet it becomes its own little sub-community...shoot b/t this and the previous VIPER thread, we're already nearing 7000 posts. So if one guy comes over to complain in a jealous fit, I guess that's not too bad =]
[Epic 4G Android Development] cerebralzulu:
There is always the option of ALL of us going elsewhere if this forum is taking the negative attitude it appears to be traveling towards. Your following is huge and I in no way think that would be the case if you put out crap. There is a reason that your ROMs are the most popular. And most of us have used the others before settling on this one. In fact some have left and come back. In addition, I don't think there is another development team that is as responsive as you guys are. You are so responsive that when someone doesn't get what they want immediately or sooner, THAT becomes a problem. Keep up the great work BT and all of Team Viper!
[Epic 4G Android Development] cerebralzulu:
Well stated! +100000000
[Epic 4G Android Development] lilmikeyv:
BT...I hope u stick around, the drama does suck to just read through so I can only imagine how it would be to actually have to deal with it. Ur roms have been my favorite since they came out. And u and team vipers support is second to none...for those that don't want to use the rom...don't...no one cares, there are plenty of us that love it!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] blademonkey:
Sounds like you pissed of the competition.