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[Optimus One, P500, V General] Borg Drone:
My O1 came with November 2010 as the manufacturing date. Purchased in end December. I'm in Pune, India. Phone was used farily low-dust environments. Yet, this month, I noticed dust starting to accumulate upwards from the bottom right corner. Mostly it is visible only in sunlight with the back-light turned up (if set low).

Besides this, I also had issues with the headphone, etc., but will stick to the dust issue here. So finally took it to a service center. Technician looked at it and said there is no dust. But as I insisted it is clearly visible in sunlight, he dissembled it in front of me. The screen was taken inside, so I do not know what he did with it. When he came back after sometime, he was cleaning it with a soft cleaning cloth.

Next day, when the sun was out, I noticed that now there is 10 times more particulate matter under the screen than what I started off with. The technician was fairly careful in handling it, but apparently dust settled on the LCD while the phone was open. The fact that they did not even have an AC running, surely contributed to it. Further, fibers/lint from the cleaning cloth too were deposited under the screen. All his is nicey magnified by a bright screen under the sun.

Disassembly and cleaning itself took about an hour and was of course at no charge as it is within the warranty period. In fact LG has this 1 hr service assurance board put up, which is great, esp. when compared to my experience with Nokia service centers, where they insist on keeping the phone with them even for the most minor jobs. Another good thing was that he did most it in front of me. But despite all this the problem is now 10 times worse.

Questions about what he did to prevent it from re-occurring did not yield very satisfactory answers... all he said is that a part needs to be replaced to solve the problem.

Anyway, all the effort was wasted. LG has has produced a good product for the price, but ruined it all with such a stupid but significant problem.

Opening a new phone itself is not the best idea. Stop gap methods like stickers and glue are not and should not be acceptable. Once opened, there is always the risk of some damage. Even if you are lucky to get a technician who is fairly careful, there is risk of static damage... which may not be immediately apparent. They do not care about such things at all. One buys a new phone to have a trouble free experience without wasting time at service centers. Once repaired, it is no longer like a new product.

Does anybody know yet if LG has addressed this issue on later batches of this phone? If yes from which manufacturing date?

Unless this issue is positively resolved, I would dissuade anybody from buying this phone. It will ruin the experience of owning a new phone.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] kjanko:
Never had any problems with dust.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] nikhil4186:
lg is freakin retarded. I have not even bothered to take this phone to service center again as they kept delaying the service. also I have stopped using this phone for calling people or sms. it now remain mostly in airplane mode. I use it only indoors and the dust is not visible indoors.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Jaani:
Ohh gosh...i have decided to buy this phone in few days bcoz its best in its price & gio is unavailable..but your comments are making me nervous now..I saw the demo of this few days back & i cant see any dust may be bcoz i was inside the shop...& saw the box packed(new) set with manufacturing date Jan 2011.I probably not goin to buy with that date...I will search the market & take the latest one even if i have to to give few bucks xtra(prices vary shop to shop)...
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Borg Drone:
When did you buy it and what is the manuf. date? Have you checked under the sun and screen set bright?

There seems to be no conclusive evidence or comments to suggest that LG has rectified this problem. The worst thing is that it can take some time for the dust to accumulate sufficiently (depending on environment), so I guess comments of new users, even if forthcoming, cannot be conclusive. :(

Trust me, this fone may be the best specifications in its price range; but all that will come to naught unless this stupid issue is addressed.

A big thumbs down to LG. :mad:
[Optimus One, P500, V General] pioneerf2:
P503 not the P500

This phone is the optimus P503 which is not available in India. It is for the middle eastern and african market. If you saw somebody using it, they probably got it from Dubai etc. Search 'Lg P503' in google.(Not allowed to post links:o)

I got the phone a couple of weeks back, got the black box, manufacturing date is FEB 2011. A week before got a speck in the middle of the screen, looks like a dead pixel when browsing the net on a white background:( . I am afraid taking it to the ASS coz I think it will do more harm then good.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] nikhil4186:
same here, I haven't even taken my phone to service center.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Borg Drone:
Dust issue has not been resolved by LG

For those considering this fone - yesterday manager in The Mobile Store told me that he is getting heaps of customers coming in with the dust problem. Many just within a few weeks of purchase; and are so severe that you don't even need direct sunlight to see it. He bluntly told me not to buy Optimus One if I was concerned about the dust issue. Even though they have very recent stock (May 2011, S/N: 104xxxxx), he told me not to buy as even customers who bought just about 1.5 - 2 months earlier are complaining about dust.

People on other forums are also complaining about dust in 2011 manufactured handsets. Its clear that it happens sooner for some than others, depending upon the operating environment. In mine, I noticed dust 1st time after 4 - 5 months, when I checked in direct sunlight.

From all the above, it seems LG is clearly lying that it has fixed the problem in the newer series. Some people here are also falsely claiming that 2011 handsets do not have the issue.

Based on these reports, I don't think I will be buying another O1. Buyers
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Jacob_:
Is there a way to protect P500 against dust? Maybe case or something?

I want to buy this phone but this dust... :(
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Borg Drone:
^^^ No known way. It is something that LG needs to fix at the factory level. Either buy and enjoy the dust or don't buy. Thats also what the guy at The Mobile Store implied.

Some people suggest using silicone cases and stuff, but its unlikely to help as most of the openings where the dust might be entering like the USB socket, front buttons, 3.5" jack remain open anyway.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] soberspine:
I just noticed dust under my phones screen, I wish I didn't entered this thread :((

I used a pocket case from the moment I bought it, always took care so no dust would enter around the keys, the dust is at the bottom of the screen.

My phone is 6 weeks old.

S/N 105xxx

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[Optimus One, P500, V General] nikhil4186:
You will get used to it. It won't bother you indoors.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] rforums:
Whether you entered this thread or not, dust was/is there. You want to get it fixed(temporarily), get it to a service center..
[Optimus One, P500, V General] mprou:
generally i work around dusty enviroments and since the first time i noticed dust under my screen, i've visited lg center 2 times so far (got the phone 5 months)

I find it very annoying during summer when i'm on the beach. Oh well..good thing that lg center is half km from where I live:p
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Jacob_:
I found on internet a information:

LG says, the issue with dust was resolved in models from December '10.

Could anyone confirm it?

I really love specification of this phone, but this ***** dust is disturbing for me. :(

And i am pedant so... :(
[Optimus One, P500, V General] soberspine:
Mine is 2011 and I have dust problem.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Borg Drone:
Get used to it, lol! :rolleyes: Good for you! I for one completely lack that ability.

And btw, dust particles are visible only under direct sunlight when there isn't much. Let some more accumulate, and you should see it otherwise too.

@soberspine: which month?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Jacob_:
I asked seller, and he says, his P500 has memory card slot near camera.

So... it's not good? :(
[Optimus One, P500, V General] gabitu73:
same thing to me:mad:
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Jacob_:
One question more:

If I will send it to LG and they will repair it and send me back, will the issue with dust come again?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] mprou:
In my case, they saying they can't fix it. They can only clean it whenever gathers dust. Done that twice already
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Jacob_:
Im not sure to buy this phone. :(
[Optimus One, P500, V General] panman86:
I also have the dust problem.

After using it awhile, it's really not an issue. You just get used to it.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Magnet42:
I exchanged mine because of the same problem. Now I've had the new one for about 2 months, and guess what? Dust has been building up again. I think it's a build quality issue. You're lucky if you got one without dust.

As long as it doesn't cause any screen malfunctions, I think it's acceptable.

You only see the dust under direct sunlight right?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] nikhil4186:
it will not cause the screen to malfunction.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Borg Drone:
No. Initially, when the quantity of dust is low, it will be visible only under direct sunlight. Later, you can behold the beauty of your screen in normal light. Its far, far from acceptable.

There is no known fix. Even for those who were told that the problem would not reoccur, it has reoccurred. And there is always possibility of damage and scratches when they disassemble it for cleaning.

Its simply preposterous that they have been aware of this issue for months and yet have chosen to just ignore it and lie that they have fixed it.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] nikhil4186:
its easier for them that way.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] fernando1sg:
I bought my phone like in march of this year and I don't have the dust issue.

Enviado desde mi LG-P500 usando XDA Premium App
[Optimus One, P500, V General] cristianhaulica:
My phone was free of dust for about a month, till it got bricked and sent for repair.

It was replaced and the second one got a big speck of dust in the middle of the screen in the first day:mad: (no other appeared till now.. in one week).

If this might count:

The fist phone was bought free of contract from Romania, but the box had a Vodafone seal. (it was not bought from Vodafone)

The second had a neutral seal, probably replaced by LG guys themselves.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] dlavi:
I am in search of a new phone and LG p500 was on the top of that list.

thus was checking out the cons of the phone when I found this topic.looks like P500 is going to the bottom of the list now.

Anyone want to make suggestions for a phone in the same price range or less?

The following caught my eye

Samsung galaxy pop a.k.a SG mini

samsung galaxy 3 i5801

not too sure of the following but they were on flipkart

olive fluid vw1

micromax A70
[Optimus One, P500, V General] mihir287:
Supposing all the posters on this thread have this issue, then still there are 175 users facing this problem vs. the many thousands that don't :). In terms of development (if you are interested in tweaking that is) and performance, the P500 is the best among similarly priced handsets.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] dlavi:
:o Cant argue the logic. Still open to suggestions.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] soberspine:
from where do you know thousands don't have or won't have this problem? probably most users didn't botter to post about it.

For example all LG O1 phones have bad sound quality. Do you see all owners complain about it?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] :
You are taking it quite far... It's simple logic that if every O1 user here faced this problem, they would complain about it. If I see a topic about 'Dust under screen', and I sense I face the same problem, I post in it. So far, I haven't noticed a real flood of people posting here about this problem.

It's a problem that occurs, but does not involve every O1 user, otherwise you and I would both have noticed :)

p.s. Your 'bad sound quality' example was just really an example right? I don't think the quality is bad in my opinion...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elvirr:
After many attempts, i have found the best combination of rom, radio, android, and phone settings so my hd2 t-mobile now can last 40-50 hours from single charge.

1. Energy rom without addons on home screen

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8640264&postcount=3

2. Mccm se V3.4 version for Android (with r8.5.1_eb kernel)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?
p=9241013&postcount=2

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=787588

3. Radio 2.12.50.02_2

4. Exceller Multiple Build Loader

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=737001

5. Set wm in airplane mode, and turn off auto sync, background data and location in android, brightness to minimum

6. Use wifi, gps, mobile data or bluetooth only when needed

7. Install SetCPU and use settings from tihs page

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=734886

8. Use widget taskkiller every time before locking the phone.

With this settings my phone can last around 50 hours with single charge, and i use it for sending messages, calling, browsing over wifi and occasionally playing angry birds.

This represents moderate use for me, and it is enough for my daily use, but if you want something more buy spare battery :)

Warning: I own hd2 t-mobile version, so this combination maybe doesn't work on your phone, or maybe it's not compatible with your hd2!

Please check radio and rom compatibility before flashing!

Screenshot from my phone
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fruchtfliege:
i believe you that your phone lasts more than 40 hours, but not everyone wants to disable auto sync, location and look onto such a beatiful huge screen which is almost dark ;)

i prefer daily charge (lasts about 24h) with all the benefits which a smartphone has!

thx anyway for sharing your setup. it might help a lot of people.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elvirr:
Yes, but maybe someday you will find yourself on a desert island alone with your hd2, and my tips will surely be helpful to you :D

There is a day when we all want a little bit of extra juice ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cb00:
what app do you use to see how long you've had it unplugged
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elvirr:
Settings, about phone, battery usage
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shadiku:
Looks like Battery Indicator, free version available on the Market.

PS: Do you have an extended battery? (since 8.5.1_eb is for extended batteries)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elvirr:
No, I use 1200mah battery, hd2 stock battery.

And yes, it's battery indicator app, but it came preinstalled in my version of android.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rafpigna:
all things that make it a smartphone, are off.

Like to buy a Ferrari but going at 20mph because otherwise it uses too much fuel....

:eek:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Gihanfx:
+1
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jose makalolot:
+1

We better get a nokia 5110, it lasts a week without charging. Lol.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elvirr:
Well guys use your phone as you want, no need to be sarcastic, maybe this will help to someone!

Maybe i would use data plan as well but it is just too expensive on my network, so i use my phone diferently than you ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bronx:
so... sorry to possibly hijack Your thread a bit my dear OP, but can You tell me my friends, how long can Your leo survive constant net usage? my standby drain is great, however when browsing with wifi or 3g, hd2 will live for about 4 - 5 hrs at most (well... let's call it a total net usage, as I've never had time to discharge it in one go... ;) ).

is it more or less what You get? am I overreacting a bit?? ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tomylee79:
My ROM and Android Version is not the newest and I did not look of the combination I installed, so I might have a rubbish setup. But atm. I can't get over the day with browsing, lessening music, data connection and a few calls and mails. Normally I run WM at daytime and after work I switch to Android.

Do you guys get over the day with a normal usage (like 16h), or do I expect to much??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elvirr:
I will try and let you know ;-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tobiascrystal:
Yeah, and I bet you'll look at your Leo and wish it was an EVO so it could transform into an airplane and fly you off that island!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bronx:
well... if I use it lightly (some web browsing, quite a few calls and txts, some email, etc.) then it will even last two days (less than 1% batt usage per hour in standby), however if I'll use net heavily, gps, gaming then combined use will be only about 4 - 6 hours.

I am changing radio from 2.14 to 2.15 in about an hour to check if it's going to be any difference.

my setup is: stock wwe 1.66 rom, android rom is froyostone 3.2 sense with hastarin kernel 8.5.1 and letama's patches.

[EDIT]

to stay on topic ;) - I have setup as above, auto brightness, data connections enabled manually when needed. with "dumb phone" usage (texting, calling, some notes, calculations, calendar use, etc.) plus some light browsing I had 50% of batt left after all day yesterday. (unplugged @7am, 50% @9pm)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elvirr:
Haha, exactly :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] t1h5ta3:
i get on average 48-55 hours with out diableing background, wifi and gps on alll the time. syncs 8 diferent email accounts every hour + the gmail is pushed .

ie: i use it as a smart phone.

worst i got was about 35 hours, kids were playing angry birds non stop...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] xguntherc:
Using the latest DarkStone and Hastarin 8.5.1oldcam, having auto killing tasks that I don't use, and setCPU at 1.07 Ghz I can last all day.

My first run on Android with my HD2 battery was terrible. but the new Kernel, and using the EB autoboot made battery totally improve, but still worse than my Nexus One. I have sync, and GPS disabled, Email updates only every hour, Twitter every 2 hours. and mine usually has around 60% left after work at 6PM, and It's fully charged and gets unplugged at 9:30 every morning.. so 8 hours and it's almost halfway gone, but when I'm not at work it lasts longer, cuz at work I constantly loose 3G, and get it back and it's constantly switching. I try to set to 2G while at work if I don't need 3G.

I change it on the way home, and use it the rest of the night.. no worries for me.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tidystuart:
Hi,

I want to know how to remove my phones network name from the notifications drop down menu bar (using leedroid 2.2f), I tried to get rid of it using the UOT kitchen by making the carrier completely transparent, but no luck when I flashed it..

Any help appreciated.

Edit - I wasn't sure if this was a Rom related or general issue that can be resolved on any 2.2 roms
[HD7 General] FinalJenemba:
Im considering getting an HD7. I had a chance to play with a quantum an fell in love with WP7. I was one who was on the Evo bandwagon, and bought a launch phone (I ended up returning it and switching to tmobile). When that phone launched, every blog, review, and post was raving about how AMAZING the screen was. Now, the same screen is in the HD7 and it seems like everyone thinks its garbage. Whats the deal? The evo's been out what, 6 months? Did everyone's eyes just just get used to the ridiculously over saturated colors of the galaxy s super amoled or what?
[HD7 General] alabij:
I've never used the EVO; I love my HD7 but the screen sucks. Point blank. The screen on the HD7 looks like the screen I had on my greyscale palm-pilot 10 years ago. It's not just the fact that its ridiculously reflective; it's very poor at producing colors and the viewing angles are really limited.

I think the best way to describe it would be like those old laptop screen that had a back light lamp.

Again I'm coming from the HD2 and a long line of HTC phones. I really liked the screen on the HD2. You know a screen is good when you rarely ever have to think about it. with the HD7 . . . . . you always do.
[HD7 General] FinalJenemba:
Im not sure I understand, dont the HD2 and HD7 share the same screen?
[HD7 General] alabij:
No! Not in the slightest.
[HD7 General] tfn:
I have an HTC HD 7 and am quiet Happy with the screen quality, although Ihavent used any of your guys phones..

THe mere fact that the screen size is 4:3 makes me love it so much i dont even feel like using my computer any more
[HD7 General] frankd14321:
I have had an HD2, VIBRANT AND HD7... I like the HD7's screen the best... to each his own.
[HD7 General] alabij:
Very true buddy
[HD7 General] bofett:
I went from the HD2 to HD7. I think the screens are close in terms of quality. I have noticed that if I leave the brightness on the HD7 set to auto it's too dim for me. I prefer a clear, bright screen but I am sure I will pay in battery life (which already seems better in the HD7).
[HD7 General] MartyLK:
You should return yours. There's something wrong with it. The HD7 screen is among the best there is, period. I have an HD7 and an HD2 and find the image quality to be purely superb and the definition much better than any OLED.

Here is how you discern the truth about some people, the ones who are being purely trollish will not want you to see for yourselves. I highly recommend to anyone who gives the slightest consideration to what this poster is saying go see for themselves. T-Mobile has the Galaxy S, which has an AMOLED, and the HD7, which has the superb LCD. Compare both phones side by side and make sure to look at text definition. You won't find a better looking normal LCD in the market than what the HD7 has.
[HD7 General] alabij:
You are a moron for calling me a troll. I can't find a better way to articulate. You might just be the troll for pissing me off. As you can see from my post I clearly stated it as my observation and I used my past experiences for comparison.

That doesn't make me right or wrong. It's clearly my perception based on the OP's question. You obviously have yours.

Then again you could just be a 10 year old in your mom's basement and I fell for your comment. in that case you got me kid.
[HD7 General] MartyLK:
You made a generalization about all HD7s rather than saying *yours* looked bad to you. And I didn't call you a troll. I made a comment about how to discern trolls.
[HD7 General] mrroey:
You need to chill.

You are obviously a bitter person that just needs to relax. Calling people morons and trolls and 10 year boys just makes yourself seem offensive and childish. It is what is so don't accuse someone for being a troll just because he directed an opinion at you.

I'm sorry no one here agrees with your argument but that doesnt mean you should build up so much pent up anger to lash out at the first person that makes a comment against you.

Though i think there is something that the rest of us can agree on: you, sir, are a complete douche.
[HD7 General] DarkAlkamist:
I like the screen on the Hd7, are the viewing angles bad? Well yes...depending on what phone you are coming from. In my case I'm coming from the Nexus One. In my own opinion I think the Hd7 screen is a lot more sharper than the screen on the Nexus One. Remember you are not going to carry around two phones in your pocket to compare screens all day long. Just my 2 Cents.