yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lilelf87:
if devs or experience users can post wats the maximum temp and ma a hd2 device could take that would realy help us alot to see if a built is working normaly or pushing our hardware excessively..mayb juz a gauge like say over 36 degress is a risk or sumting like that..info like this will realy help us users
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] derycklong:
Stop overreacting, its just a hardware failure, just get it fixed and youre good to go.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Life Engineer:
Man no one is overreacting! I fixed it (maybe you didn't read the thread after all) and i am willing to use android again!!! However, if we shacked our brains a bit to see if android has any down effects on our cells, it wouldn't be such a bad thing!!! Nothing to loose, and maybe many things to win after all!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shuntje:
I wanted to put down a whole story on how stupid your comparison's are and how you should leave the thinking about this stuff to ppl who actually know what they are talking about.

Android wont destroy your hardware its a bare bone operating system with custom drivers to run on our HD2. Software imput cant realy damage your hardware unless your overclocking.

Take it from ppl who know what they are talking about seeing you seem to be clueless
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Life Engineer:
No need to be rude! That's what i said in my post, i'm not a technician or a developer, i just have some concerns/questions and i need to be insured!

Besides, i am pretty sure that many others have many other concerns/questions!

That's why i titled it a "discussion"!

So if you are ready for a good discussion welcome; if you are not or think yourself much highly educated to discuss such silly ideas you can keep you mouth shut like many people did!

Regards
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] agormog:
Software just doesn't work like that.

If any, the only side-effects that I can see is that we are using the Hardware Buttons more often, therefore they might fail earlier using Android instead of WinMobile.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] greg17477:
The car comparison isnt really good.. Its more like when you buy a computer from the market with preinstalled windows os and put a linux on it. It wont kill your pc. It may not work as intended because of driver issues, but if set properly, there should be no problem. And as far as i know, its not that easy to overheat a cpu, because there is a hardware security built in, so your mobo knows what to do. It will just shut down. Sure,you can have bad luck and your cpu can die. I dont overclock my HD2 (only for benchmarking maybe), but i concider myself as a hardcore pc overclocker (like 15 years now), so i am aware of the potential risks ;) and know what i am talking about ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ej2095:
I agree with Greg on this one

Hardware is hardware on a computer..

If the correct software is written for it it will run.

I.e i run emulators on android and thats emulating the 68000 chip set no problems there.

But most damge you will cause to your phone is over clocking the CPU until it dies..

Reminds me when used to run windows 3.1 on my old AMiga
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] apoc286:
If this puts your mind at rest and stops people flaming.

No your touch screen failure was unrelated to Android. The cpu temps and screen res would not have been related. Had you had cpu or screen res/pixel related issues your symptoms would have different.

There are some risks to android, the worst of them being imho your battery going flat when your desperately trying to phone for a lift because the trains and buses have stopped and it's bloody cold outside (as I found out last week). However what I'd suggest is rather then non-devs making uneducated guesses we leave threads like this to the devs who can state specifically what the risks are.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chalid:
Well, the worst that can happen, is killing the phone. happend to me. I started android, went outside the room for a minute and when I came back, the phone was dead and awfully hot. Fortunately htc repaired it ...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tictac0566:
Now that´s a nice comparison... but still, the operating system as a whole, means including hard- and software, is a highly complex entity.

Concerning LC displays, you can actually kill them if the power on sequence (eg. the voltage), which drives the display, is wrong. Depending on the display, there is a certain range of voltage which is fine, but below or higher still can produce problems or even permanent damage. Please don´t forget the complex structure of the LCD´s in our HD2´s.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JonSolo:
To concur with some of the above posts, I have a computer that I have running Windows 7 on. I have also run XP and Vista on it.

Additionally I run Linux on it.

And if that were not enough, I am brave enough to admit I run OSX on it.

None of these affect any aspect of my hardware.

Now I do believe I do not have a large enough power supply to run my two hard drives, two optical, dual video cards and pro audio card. But that is a hardware issue, as the OP's issue clearly was hardware failure.

And yes, usage does affect computer/mobile life, no matter the OS it is running.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shuntje:
Again you stated in your first post dont try and convince me that it was not android that killed my toutch screen. So thats why i was rude ppl who say stuff like that in a opening post while saying you want a discussion is just useless.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kacper1275:
winmobile screen failure

if this were any assurance to go by, here's my story: I had a screen failure of my hd2 back in the time when I was running it with windows mobile only - it simply would not respond to touch at all.. fortunately, htc has repaired it and I've been assured that such problems might happen to some handsets from the first months of production... my screen (or was it digitizer) was apparently replaced by a newer version/model... Since then everything has been running very smoothly on my hd2, and I've been testing all sorts of android versions available on this forum.. no problems with the screen or anything whatsoever... :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NessD:
Your concern are not logical to begin with. First of all: Android is a piece of software, that runs on top of Windows Mobile. It won't change anything. It is self containing. So it's like any other App you downloaded from the Windows Marketplace. Secondly: The gamut of Android or WinMo has nothing to do with what the LCD is really able to produce. If you turn down Windows 7 16bit Colordepth, you'll only get 16bit. If you crank it up to 32bit and your monitor is only able to handle 16bit, than you'll see 16bit colors. No pixel will overheat. And the last point: Underclocking won't damage you CPU. It will even increase the lifespan of it, because it does not have to process as many inputs and outputs within each second. If you just run Winmo, it is much colder than using an app.

It is just a hardwarefailure, nothing more. Happened to all of us at least once.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chalid:
Wrong. :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] smeddy:
/Two cents,

My phone’s touchscreen broke while using Android. I eventually found my “Back” key is somehow interfering with the touch, and now when it happens I need to press the key many many times to stop it jamming the screen’s input. Very annoying but luckily not so serious to need replacing (yet).

As stated above, I think hardware-wise the biggest issue with Android is that you probably will use your buttons more, and as your device is likely to be over a year old, it’s possible you’ll see these give way more. But *shrug* what can you do? Every hardware has a shelf-life. And my hardware fault may well have occurred just as easily on Android.

//Edit: *On Windows Mobile :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kikisp:
now you get me all paranoic :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pedroxxx:
It is not Halloween, but I have also some spooky story which happend to me this evening.

I was listening a radio and after aprox half an hour I was trying to unlock the phone. But I saw my friend so I lock it again. It takes some time till phone is unlocked so second press ON/OFF button was still when screen was black.

And later, after pressing ON/OFF again, screen was completely white. Home screen was visible, only it looks like overexposed picture. As everything is behind white curtain.

Touch screen was functional, so I tried to lock/unlock again to get rid of it, but only restart has solved this issue. And is running without problem since then.

I have checked again autobrightness, but it is always off in my setting. But anyway it does not matter, because screen look like GTX theme in complete white scale, which is not possible to create with any brightness setting :)

It never happend to me before. I have this phone one year, but only aprox three weeks I am running only Android, mostly Desire HD build. So if my display will be dead I will buy native Android phone, thats all :-)

So who knows what happend between lcd hw and drivers. MCCM build is running hastarin 8.5.1 kernel, like every second android build, so if there will be any issue, it will already happend to also some other people. I guess.

I do not know what was the cause, probably hiting On/Off button twice, but as everything also this could be just a coincidence, because I am not able to reproduce it. Weird ... so are you scared enough? :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shuntje:
Had the same issue twice now. Seeing it goes away after a reboot i think its a bug in android. Meh dont care really good with it all.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vasilisxxx:
i have one dead pixel :( and when unlock the phone one green line apear , i try many android builds but the green line its still there :(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] orangekid:
While in Android I dropped my HD2 in a puddle of oil, then it got run over by a steamroller, then a really fat dude stepped on it.

Now my stupid touch screen won't turn on, and it's all because I put Android on the damn phone...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dizzle:
Lol, that bloody Android again! If it's not destroying hard keys its damaging screens! When will someone stop this wild animal!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Leechoonhwee:
Well like some of the peeps mentioned here. The display driver of the Android cannot drive the HD2 screen over the spec it was made to be.

I do agree on the overclocking part that it could shorten the lifespan of the battery and CPU though :-)

So back to the original topic. I certainly do not think that running Android on HD2 have any side effects at all and in fact I think the HD2 SHOULD run on Android as the defacto OS!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fmedrano1977:
My touch screen gave out while using the Sense revolution 1.7 build and was not the first to post such a thing with that build. Could be that it just gave out, don't know. Bought another off of Craigslist and sent that one for repair. Let's see how it goes.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] smeddy:
I also got the White Screen of Coma Death! (I even took pictures, but as the reboot resolved the issue i didn't post). it was like seeing Android skinned like GTX!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hinky:
The same happened to me today.

I'm using Mdj Froyo HD 4.3 with kernel 7.6.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aarons6:
the only real risk of putting android on your hd2 is that you never want to use windows mobile again.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Conflikt Icey:
+1
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NessD:
I know it's not that simple. But it's not much complicated either. Of course you can do lots of harm to your HD2 and you can even brick it. But that has nothing to do with the relationship between WM and Android. You can delete Android and it's gone. If something happens to your phone cause of Android, it would have happened on any native Androidphone. So to speak, it's just a very complex and sophisticated app. At the moment at least.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pedroxxx:
real risk

this is what exactly happened to me after trying Android just for fun :-)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] KrewsialNL:
This is the only correct answer to the question " Will there be any risk, when using Android on the HD2?"

Amen...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kikisp:
Guys i think that there is something..if you see android general thread you will see about 20 guys sayin that have dead touch screen lately.. and most of them have tmous leo..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] orangekid:
I don't see 20 people saying that...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] M..N:
+1 can't see 20 people saying this.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kabuk1:
Me too :3

I tried it with the attitude of "OK, OK! I'll see what the hype is all about. Oh neat... oh wow... oh, that's cool! Holy crap I LOVE THIS!" I tried it back in August and I honestly have not looked back. I was a diehard WM fan, never thought I'd ever like Android at all, but here I am.

That said, I don't think there's any risks in running Android on the HD2. The only possible risk I can think of would be a higher possibility of SD card failure/corruption, since the OS runs off the card. I had a screen failure too, but it was cause I scratched it with a razor blade while applying a screen protector. **** happens, I'm sure plenty of people have screen-deaths with WM too, they just don't make a WM/screen failure connection.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kankam:
Its funny how you started this post by saying no one should try to convince you android cannot break your touchscreen, yet you want us to discuss whether or not your screen got messed up because of android.

Just in case you've changed your mind about us convincing you, can I say just like many others have said, that your screen fault had and will probably never have anything to do with android running on it.

+1 the only realy risk in using android is that you may never want to go back to Windows Mobile as a dye-in-the wool Winmo fan like myself found out.

I'm glad to hear you've got your screen sorted. Enjoy running android on it and stop being paranoid :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gus_chi:
lololololol :D

It's funny cause it's true.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Stom:
I'm impressed the OP obtained the ranks of "Senior Member". Although, that being said, I work in a PC repair store for a boss that knows absolutely nothing about PC's. You, sir, are the XDA equivalent of the many customers I deal with who are 100% certain that it was their lover/brother/mother visiting a pornographic website that caused their hard drive to fail...

This:

Followed by this and this:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Bimboy:
Too bad there isn't any way to rate this thread in negative stars.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rgr81:
no they stored the whole Ddta at one point of the disk, so it runs unbalanced *rofl*:D:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jetsetwilly:
One word: bollocks.

or is that two?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lukesan:
3 :)

The only thing that Android is destroying is my memorycard.

I've 'installed' (say copied) so many different builds on it that if you take it out of the HD2 and hold it towards the sun you see right through it I think.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] g0t0:
Your RIGHT! I installed Linux over my Windows 7 and my screen MELTED!! the horror! LMAO. Kidding!

In all seriousness, if you've run through the HD2 section of XDA how many of them had screen issues? your the first for me. I've been running Froyo on mine for about 4(?)months with it running on avg about 4 days straight before I do a cold restart for one thing or another. No Rom or Radio changes. All stock running from a 6x 8gb sd card.

No issues. none. nada. zip. zilch. hope your new screen runs longer.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TheATHEiST:
Dude he wasn't saying "wrong" about any of that, he was referring to the fact that you seem to think that Android runs on top of windows so window is still running in background and that Android is some sort of app running on windows?

I will repeat what the guy said to you... WRONG!!!

Android is NOT running on "top" of windows nor is it a "app". When you boot android you are actually rebooting the phone into the android kernel and windows is completley gone and not in memory.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JanssoN:
The SD was the only loss I had to get over :D

This phone is indestructable in any case to Android. But if it dropped down while running Android are you going to say the damage is caused by Android? :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Life Engineer:
Ok guys so you laughed a lot and me too! I'm open minded! :D

However, of course if i put my HD2 in a cup of tea while running android it will maybe melt and that is all the cause of android :p :p :p

Let me clear some points:

1- I said i'm not neither a technician nor a computer engineer; however i have a fair experience with PCs and mobile phones' OSs! I mean i've rooted and tweaked many cell phones...

Thanks for clarifying that software cannot damage the hardware but again they are closely related! That was the original reason behind my thread! Maybe there was some hardware components made specifically for this cell phone running Winmo and will not be compatible for android/or will be useless!

2-About some guy saying about senior member let me tell him:

I'm a civil engineer so "evidently" I don't know a lot about how PCs work! However as i said, i know pretty much enough for me!

Besides, i am asking a real issue here (even if the answer is so evident to you); I’m not asking "what is RAM or ROM" for instance or some simple questions that any average user knows!

Finally, knowledge and experience in this website is not related to the number of posts; i can point you to some users I saw having above 800 posts asking n00b questions and all their posts are mainly "Thanks" "Good job" "well done" "keep up the good work" ...etc... and some useless stuff! And I can guarantee you that not one of my posts is like those (or like yours joking of people).

Have a nice day gents, and always be open minded that maybe someone doesn't know what you know, that doesn't make him a moron, just teach him as somebody taught you and you will continuing the cycle of life...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] m_elkhishin:
I think the touch screen failure is related to the flat connector behind the red power button. repeatedly hard pushing the red power button damages the connector.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nigeldg:
That's been established ages ago. Have you been living under a rock, or are you spamming on old threads for 10 posts? :/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] s8isfi:
I have had an HD2 for almost a year now and have tried like more than 40 different types of ROMs from Winmo, WP7, Ubuntu, Android but so far there has not been any hardware problems.... my 2c
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sam razzy:
Even one of my ferns hd2 doesn't work touchscreen when using android.. he got it worked when he flash backed the winmo 6.5 :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] retsam88:
Life Engineer, by installing android you agreed to terms of HTC and you knew that this is risky process. So if you can't take risk or didnt read/understand terms of usage just.....don't mess with your phone OR buy legacy android phone. EOT
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Maxp101:
Just coincidence, could be a loose connector or an ancient build with failing touchscreen drivers.

Sent from my Awesome android powered HD2 OC'ed to 1,6GHz
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vikramalfa:
Same issue :- my Tmous Hd2's screen went out about a month ago and this happened while I was trying different Android Rom's , I read a lot about the digitizer issue and gave it for repair(was out of warranty) but the technician said that its a mother board issue and the the connection was getting "short" while the Red key was pressed ..sounds like Bull***t..

Anyhow he has given it back to me saying that it cannot be repaired !!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vasil.domuschiev:
The only risk is for YOU - to addict to the phone and the options that you are able to do.

About the screen it is only a hardware failure not related to the OS by it self.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kanishkapd:
hi guys,

i m a new android user, on my hd2. my phone gets rather hot after only few minutes running android. and i did a search, came across this thread. i m just a regular smartphone user and have no much knowledge about all the technical stuff. :)

even though there are lots of replies, most of them seem to be aimed at mocking the op:D...and almost all the replies seem to be more like guesses or beliefs of the android fans. i dont see any real technical explanation that can be convincing.

so...why does the phone overheat when using android (and not so with wm) ?

isnt that because the hardware is being pushed over its limits? cant this damage the phone? if so how can you minimise it ?

hope someone can render a clear explanation:)

thanks.
[Streak 5 General] ctopher2391:
I upgraded from 1.6 ATT to 1.6 02, to 2.1, to 2.2 (1.4.6) last night. My GPS is no longer working...I've searched the forums and only found this:

Get "GPS Status" from market; then:

1. Menu --> tools --> Manage A-GPS State --> Reset.

2. Menu --> tools --> Manage A-GPS State --> Download

Which I tried, but still not working. Anyone have ideas or a fix?

Thanks!
[Streak 5 General] nightworker-nn11:
Hi there,

I had the exact same problem...

Tried the exact same thing as you and had the same luck.

It seemed that it was something to do with Geolocation as i saw that the GPS status was picking up the satilites.

I then stumbled around and found the following fix myself

I use beautiful widgets.

Tap the weather icon, the tap the middle button (opens up the configure section etc)

Tap configure, then goto advanced

Select FORCE GPS.

Then it worked, although after that I may have found another possible solution....

I very rarely use the google search bar. I did and it asked me to enable location, so maybe this is another way it would work... would be interesting to see if the second fix works first.

Anyway hope this helps & good luck
[Streak 5 General] ctopher2391:
Tried enable location in google, no luck. Also downloaded beautiful widgets, went to advanced in weather app and checked force GPS, no luck. Any other ideas?
[Streak 5 General] nightworker-nn11:
I take it the gps app is picking up the satilites?

Maybe its a case of re-flash
[Streak 5 General] WiseDuck:
I have the same problem. It seems somewhat temperamental after the update. It can see and get a fix on 10+ satellites in GPS Status and other similar apps. But getting an accurate position in Google Maps is damn near impossible. Very frustrating.
[Streak 5 General] subvecto:
Works on my updated streak stock froyo, just disabled a-gps; both Google maps and other apps using GPS gets exact fix...