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[Nexus S General] rizzy123:
tbh i dont think this is the flagship andriod device from samsung, lets be honest, they didnt go all out in the hardware department, they have some great stuff in development which im sure they will implement into the 2011 phones.

Samsung has done great with its samsung galaxy s line because it made a phone available for every major carrier and retailer and since this phone has been given exclusive rights to The Carphone Warehouse and T-mobile in the US, im sure they have another phone in development that they will sell via the other major carriers.

The only major selling point this phone has its made with google's team. So this phone will be the first to get updated. But since there isnt major differences between this models and the other galaxy s models maybe they will also get updated not long after.
[Nexus S General] hkoutso:
Well...

As most of you I am kind of disappointed with the specs of the Nexus S...

But we have to face the facts here.

I don't think Google really sees the Nexus S as a super mobile phone the way they saw and introduced Nexus One (and according to them the Nexus One experiment was a failure...go figure...)

Google right now only cares about Gingerbread (as well as the upcoming Honeycomb and generally the whole Android eco-system which is getting bigger each day) and that was the best way to make a hype about it.. release a Nexus S pre-installed with it. I don't think they care about sales numbers in terms of a hardware device even if it carries their name and official support.

After all for Google that is just the next dev phone.

I know in the end most of us (Nexus One users) will be tempted to get one.

Gee that would really be my first Samsung phone! (been avoiding that company for years...)

Just my .2
[Nexus S General] crachel:
Google sees the N1 as a success.. the business model failed
[Nexus S General] hkoutso:
agreed! I was referring to their business model :)
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
I'm pretty ecstatic about the Nexus S being sold at retail stores we can check out.

I'm really hopeful this business model works out and they get set up other stores like Radioshack, Frys, Walmart, Target, etc. If it works then Google might start coming out with a Nexus phone every year for us :)

Just as long as a Nexus S never touches an official carrier store then I am a happy man :D
[Nexus S General] ma2k5:
What phone exists atm in the UK (or coming soon) which will have SAMOLED, front facing camera, HD vid recording - and HSPDA+? Because, atm, Nexus S not having HSPDA+/SD cards/trackball or track pad = bad :(.
[Nexus S General] musashiken:
Yawn. I'm not disappointed at all since I knew from the start that this will just be another Galaxy S clone.

Sure it has some new hardware but that's it. I'd rather get the HTC Desire HD that's so much prettier than this poor excuse for an Iphone clone.

So what's next Google?
[Nexus S General] thepoetvd776:
I have mixed feelings. I've been holding on to my rooted G1 for a whlie now expecting this Nexus S to be something beasty but then it didnt turn out to be as I imagined.

Still is a HUGE upgrade from my G1.

But I dont know whether to get this or the G2 or the MT4G.

Quick question the product page says Nexus S has HSPA but not + so that means no 4g right? So HSPA = 3g only? Or is that a step up from 3g?
[Nexus S General] Lamar720:
I wish it had a trackball.
[Nexus S General] hmarcus:
It doesn't have HSPA+ ("4G")

Better off getting a myTouch 4G; it'll have much more RAM, 4G, HD recording, not as plastic-y.

Plus now that it has Cyanogenmod support, it'll most likely get Gingerbread whenever the team gets around to it. :D
[Nexus S General] innisdb:
everyones complaining about nothing...its not a huge upgrade over the n1 but it is an upgrade. what most people dont realize is that there is really no way to make a phone a game changer anymore...everything now is pretty much the same. from here on its baby steps until we get to quad cores haha and anyway even if dual cores will come out next year, who is actually gonna want it when 99% of them will not have vanilla android...the whole point of the nexus line is to atleast be able to keep up with the rest without falling behind. if dual cores are out by middle next year, we wont see them fully utilized until this time next year and by that time the next nexus will be out so who cares
[Nexus S General] hmarcus:
I think what most are complaining about is that in some respects it is a DOWNGRADE compared to phones that have been out for months now. Considering what the first Nexus was, this is a let down.

Even compared with the Vibrant, it has a lesser bluetooth and lesser camera in exchange for NFC which nobody will use this year, and stock 2.3.
[Nexus S General] innisdb:
i dunno about that still though...the hummingbird processor and gpu is still going to be the best thing until dual cores come out, it has lesser bluetooth, which honestly i dont think that many people really use bluetooth for file transfers, but anyway i still think it will have HD recording. i cant imagine that it wouldnt have it if its based off of the galaxy s line
[Nexus S General] biglolz:
wheres the ****ing hardware encryption support?!?!
[Nexus S General] justsignbythex:
Not sure if the release will have HD recording. The pre-production version had a very sub-par 480p camera. There's a video floating around of sample footage taken by the Nexus S.

However, the still picture quality was pretty good.
[Nexus S General] OJ in Compton:
Random question, but I didn't see anyone talking about it.

Gizmodo said that the NFC capabilities of this phone are read only. Does that mean that this won't be able to be used for things like paying at a cashier and is simply nothing more than a fancier barcode reader at the moment? (assuming there was a store in the country that had the capability right now)
[Nexus S General] sstang2006:
Yes, that's exactly what it mean. No creditcardphone at the moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk5mUdeEF8c
[Nexus S General] OJ in Compton:
Okay. Do we know if write functionality is on that chip and can be enabled in the future? It's definitely an interesting technology.

Just to clarify I'm well aware that barcode reading and NFC scanning are completely different, but they seem to be used for the same purpose right now of tagging things, getting urls and other goodies :P
[Nexus S General] justsignbythex:
Anybody else wondering about LED notifications and the like?

I'm glancing over the gallery on the official site, and there's three transparent "windows" on top. One for the front facing camera (to the right of the earpiece), another for the ambient light sensor (to the left). What would the third one be for?

If it's truly for a notification LED, then that would be amazing.
[Nexus S General] davados:
Battery

■Talk time up to 6.7 hours on 3G

(14 hours on 2G)

■Standby time up to 17.8 days on 3G

(29.7 days on 2G)

■1500 mAH Lithum Ion

Made me laugh so hard when I saw this in the spec 29.7 days what is it radio active. All jokes aside I can see this phone will die before the end of the first quarter. It seems just another run of the mill smartphone with the look of a rushed and uncomplete spec. 1 Ghz won't last long with the dual cores coming next year. The frount camera is very poor demonstrated in a googlenexus youtube video. the headphone jack is at the bottom this will cause the phone to be constantly pulled upside down minor really. Imo this phone is alot of money for not alot of spec I think the best option is to wait for the big daddys to come out to play roll on the end of the first quarter to see the new wave of smartphones.
[Nexus S General] kkiran:
Google made us buy expensive 32GB microSDs for Nexus One and all of a sudden provide zero slots on Nexus S - if that is not backwards, I don't know what is!
[Nexus S General] Lamar720:
Seem like there trying to much to be like the iphone. I want a trackball this is a sad day. Oh well psp phone it is or wait to next year when people say nexus who. what is that. Oh nothing.
[Nexus S General] ikon8:
I'm hoping that some of these specs are inaccurate or just incomplete, they have changed some of the specs since they were posted earlier today. And Google still has the N1 listed as not having 802.11N support, but we all know that it has since day one.

I like the NS and I might get it, but i the 1 single thing I need is a notification led, it better have one.
[Nexus S General] kkiran:
Trackball

AT&T, Canada 3G guts!

MicroSD Support, seriously 16GB is not going to do it, not with an HD phone, no!

I hope the battery is user-replaceable, if not, that will be a disaster waiting to happen!

All in all, Nexus One still lives with 2.3 awesomeness atleast till Q1~Q2 2011!
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Can someone explain why the Nexus S spec sheet shows that it has less talk time compared to the Nexus One? Ns has a larger battery and is using Android 2.3, which I thought runs everything more optimally?
[Nexus S General] Lamar720:
Its only a 1500mah battery they have to be kidding lol I just ordered the 3200mah for my nexus and I will upgrade to 2.3 or use the latest MIUI or CM ..... Ill pass hey .... Nexus S is a great name lol thats about it.

BTW what did they hold the phone back for again? was it GPS issue?
[Nexus S General] mostwantd1:
If you have a nexus one I absolutely don't see a real reason to upgrade. It has a couple new somewhat nice features (like the front camera and somewhat faster processor), but is lacking in too many areas or should i say missing some of the great N1 features (trackball, non plastic build, notification light, SD expansion, docks).....

plus, no 720p or HSDA+? I absolutely can not believe the no 720 part.....doesn't make sense.

So far my wife's mt4g kills this phone in every area.
[Nexus S General] ikon8:
Can anyone confirm that all the Galaxy S variants don't have an led notification light? I thought I read that some of them have it and some don't. Just hoping the NS will have one.
[Nexus S General] mlbl:
I wonder why the earphone jack is at the bottom instead of the top. That's poor design.
[Nexus S General] ma2k5:
Mate, it is a downgrade, forget "huge upgrade" lol. Nexus 1 had it right..

You can't call adding a few features - then removing quite a lot, an upgrade.

No SD CARD? No 720p recording? No HSPDA+? These are things phones have had for a while, to miss these out is LUDICROUS. Just having a hummingbird processor and a front facing camera (which other phones have) is not suddenly an upgrade in my book.

The phone, although looking pretty cool, does not compete with the look of N1.

No notifications it seems either. The NFC seems to be just a gimmick now, if you can't pay for things.

So, all in all, there is NO reason to upgrade. Headphone jack at the bottom of the phone, is just the icing on the cake to be honest, what was they thinking?

It is still just 5 MP and if you go by the Google videos, the front facing camera sucks.

If I purchased this phone, I could never be happy, knowing there are phones OLDER which are better spec'd. Only 512 mb ram, whether it needs more or not, come on, there are phones with so much more nowadays...

Going to wait for 2011 Q1 it seems.

I DIDN'T EVEN NEED A HUGE UPGRADE. If it just had everything other phone had in the market, I would have bought it. Headphone at top, 726MB ram+, SD card, HD recording, HSPDA+, 8 MP camera etc and I would have overlooked that it wasn't dual core/plastic.
[Nexus S General] irishrally:
Can't wait to get this phone. It's going to be sick. I've had my N1 since day one and I'm ready for a new phone. This is it. I'll probably keep my N1 though, as I kept my ADP1.
[Nexus S General] nearblack:
alright, this phone is by no means WORSE than the N1. but it also nothing special at all. the MT4G is without a doubt the best stock android phone out right now.

even without 720P, the camera quality will beat out the N1 (cause it is kinda ****ty), and the Nexus S has a MUCH higher GPU. This means an overall smoother experience and far better gaming. you also get the front facing camera, higher RAM, and bigger and nicer screen.

Though Google put this off too long. This phone is pretty much a small step up from a Samsung Vibrant. They should have done more with this.
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
MyTouch4g is stock android? :confused:
[Nexus S General] xalucardx:
I was looking foward to get this phone but ill stick with my MT4G wich the only problem is the lack of devs , hope it change soon....
[Nexus S General] TailsNeon556:
I absolutely will NOT be getting a Nexus S..

- No dock connectors.. i absolutely love that the N1 has these and a dedicated car and desk dock..

- No 720p.. the n1 has this.. (now)

- No FM radio support.. does the hummingbird even support this? thanks to the brilliant devs i can listen to it on my n1

- No expandable memory... does this mean no ext partitions for real a2sd / swap?

- No trackball / led notifications

- cheap plastic samsung.. sorry aluminum is just better.. i dont drop my phones ever... my N1 is still pristine and stays in its pouch (got it release day)

- N1 will get 2.3 and CM

sorry but this is actually a downgrade in my eyes..

my next phone will be an HTC
[Nexus S General] :
No it's not, it's an improvement. Ever listen to music while charging and in landscape mode? It feels like I'm in the matrix.
[Nexus S General] SBERG117:
Sounds like its a good phone but its not coming across as being the next step up from what im reading. No LED of any kind? No removable sd card? Dont understand why. Those two issues alone are enough to avoid purchase for me.

Once the 16th comes around everyone will have a chance to go hit a store and check it out. Im interested in giving it a once over but i already know going in that im not going to buy it. That kinda kills the excitement..lol. N1 w/gingerbread is good enough for me( obviously when it gets here) and of course awaiting a GB makeover from Cyanogen. :D:D:D
[Nexus S General] TailsNeon556:
that should make banging out a text nice and awkward with 2 cables on one side of the phone.. :rolleyes:
[Nexus S General] :
Having one cable on both sides is better?
[Nexus S General] tibere86:
I did not see any secondary microphone hole for noise cancellation in product shots. But specs claim "software noise cancellation". How would that work?
[Nexus S General] jivemaster:
Plenty of haters for a phone not even out yet and no one here has personally had the pleasure of using.

Nexus One did not have 720p out of the box. What makes you think 720p can't be added later to the Nexus S? The sensor on the Nexus S is likely more advanced than that found on the N1, solely because the device is 11 months newer than the N1, and the sensor is likely the same as the Galaxy S. Only a matter of time before that feature is ported.

The CPU+GPU combo in the hummingbird is the best in the industry. Nothing beats it at this time. Tegra phones don't count, they have not seen a release date yet.

The Nexus S is sporting the best screen in the business - Super AMOLED. You can't get that on a phone not made by samsung. I will deal with the plastic feel for the best screen.

The Nexus S is clearly superior to the Galaxy because it actually has a flash on the camera. A camera without flash is useless. Plus the Nexus S is owned by google - no Galaxy S rubbish system performance. You don't even have Froyo on the Galaxy S in the USA for heavens sake. Get a Galaxy Two - you'll be waiting forever for updates.

No removable storage? Who here really hot swaps SD cards? No one I know does it, and its been often reported that the majority of users never change the memory card in their phone for the life of the phone. I have been running a 16gb card on my Nexus one and have never come close to filling it. Yes it is disappointing to not have an SD card slot, but it's not a deal breaker. Who knows - the internal storage could be a SD card that is not user accessible, similar to the Windows 7 phone fiasco (check Engadget).

Finally, it's Google supported. Google owns this. It will be THE device, THE benchmark for 12 months. Developers will built for it, just as they did the N1. The N1 sadly, is over. Support page is down, gingerbread could very well be it's last stand.

I'm happy with everyone hating this - leaves more stock so I can get to buy one.

The LG phone looks rubbish, and you know it'll run like arse. The motorola olympus would be fantastic but who knows when that's coming? Could be months. And it's be a ***** to root, and it's locked to AT&T. Tegra is pointless in a phone, as android does not support dual core. Honeycomb will, but that's likely not hitting phones. Which means at least another 6 months until Ice Cream which will likely bring the needed support.

I am a google fanboy. Google rocks. Although they've made some sacrifices in the Nexus S, I for one love this device, and have already put in my preorder. Coupled with the best availble CPU+GPU in an android phone to date, I'm not sure what's not to like.

And for the record, I am a Nexus One fanboy. I love my Nexus. I will never sell it, but it's time to move on.
[Nexus S General] OJ in Compton:
Seriously it's hilarious to keep reading posts from the same people regarding how much the phone sucks to them.

Don't like it or think it's not enough of an upgrade? Great, post your thoughts and move on with your life. Everyone has different preferences and what may be important features to you and I (the metal casing and SD slot) may not be as important as a better processor/GPU combo and a better screen and digitizer.

There will be a phone that satisfies your needs eventually, there's no need to keep trashing this board. I have no problem with sharing your opinion, this is directed more towards certain people who I have read posting about how they dislike it over and over and over again.
[Nexus S General] innisdb:
ya im with jivemaster on this! how can everyone complain about things they arent even sure of? who knows for a fact theres no notification led? and what is the big deal with having hspa+ all of the sudden? 2 phones on t mobile r capable of this and hspa+ isnt even spread out enough to worry about it now...how many of you actually hit anything over 7mbps ever on a g2 or mt4g? probably nobody, so until next year when things start to get serious with dual core and lte/hspa+, theres no need to even worry about this stuff now! if you dont think its an upgrade dont get it but nobody can say its a downgrade because its not missing anything the n1 has except the notification lights. OH ya and having the headphone jack on the bottom is the best idea since i put my phone top down in my pocket so when i grab it and lift it up its facing the right way, plus the cord is out of ur way if ur using the phone while listening to music
[Nexus S General] OJ in Compton:
If I were to recommend an android phone on t-mobile to a friend I really don't know if I would put the nexus S over the MT4G. There's a $120 difference between the two on contract and the overall specs of the MT4G seem to be better to me...not sure if the $120 "google tax" is worth it to a normal user.

Can't really judge it until we see actual hands on reviews though, so I'm looking forward to next week.
[Nexus S General] -A-P-M-:
I expected better hardware (dual core etc), but still Nexus S is N1's successor and is step forward (not as big as we hoped, but it is). It has better and bigger screen, better proccessor, more space for apps. It doesn't have card slot ? Its not a problem for me since it has 16 gb internal space. Interesting is how people hates successors of products they have.
[Nexus S General] ap3604:
Gotta agree with you jivemaster.

I'll prolly stick with my Nexus One but this phone seems like an upgrade to me:

- Plenty of iPhone users get by just fine with 16 gb internal storage, just gotta not be lazy and clean up the clutter that is your song library! ;)

- I get 3mbps on my N1 already which is plenty fast for me so HSPA+ isn't a deal breaker

Plus being the new flagship developer phone for Google is never a bad thing :)
[Nexus S General] SBERG117:
At least now people have some sort of foundation to base a early opinion on. A few days ago no one knew anything and assumed the worst. The next few weeks should be interesting once GB hits for the N1. Then we can get some sort of side by side comparison and see how things stack up.
[Nexus S General] ma2k5:
That makes no sense, if you were told that the Nexus S does not have a camera, would it be wrong to criticise it just because you haven't used it? People have a valid reason for there criticism, a lot of features are not on the phone.

Why would you compare Nexus One, coming to a year old phone, to Nexus S? It was ok that N1 didn't have it out the box, it isn't ok this phone doesn't have it out the box. It is a perfect legitimate criticism. Why do other phones like Desire HD have it but this phone can't? Why did they skimp on the camera also, could have a better front and at least 8 MP back.

Yes it is an upgrade, but some did expect dual core - and the main problem is, in the very near future, we are expecting to see processors beating it. It would have been different if it was 6 months ahead, but barely a couple of months as it seems now.

I like the screen, the anti-fingerprint coat is good. Though, it isn't SAMOLED 2 is it?

Why shouldn't it be superior to the Galaxy? Doesn't mean, it is only a slight upgrade, with a few features missing, compared to it.

This isn't a valid arguement. Not everyone uses FM radio, not everyone uses video recording, some won't even use the camera, some won't even use the market - but all features should exist, it is just standard to have SD cards on phones now, what possible reason not to have one?

That is all it has got going for it, that it is a Google phone. If this wasn't a google phone, it wouldn't even get a mention and no one would care about it.

You don't sound happy.

Irrelevant comparisons :S.

Most of us are Nexus One owners and fans, hence why we are disappointed. If we were Apple fanboys, we would be over the moon about this phone.
[Nexus S General] bbkdhumm:
And nobody thinks that Google designed Nexus S just to be a dev phone ?

I mean: Nexus One was supposed to be a dev phone but I - as many of you - own a Nexus One and I'm not a developper. So many Nexus One sold means NOT so many other models sold: HTC, Motorola, Sony, etc... This is business, and Google surely doesn't wan't to compete with its partners.

Google did the trick: I won't buy Nexus S and I'll wait for a real new model. And that's how economy works. We'll wait for a new phone with better proc, better APN, NFC, SD slot, etc. We'll wait for a model fullfilling lacks of Nexus S.
[Nexus S General] adamhlj:
Actually, I rather like this feature. I think its clunky to have to plug my cable from the phone to my car audio on the opposite side of the port for the charger. It is easier to handle with both jacks on the same side in my opinion.

Tho I don't really like the 16 GB flash memory. I would much rather have 32 GB. And I haven't read all the posts, but it doesn't seem like this phone connects to T-Mobile's HSPA+ network? Dumb. And chances are we will have to pay extra for the wifi hotspot feature. Bleh. All this technology is giving me a headache, and I might just switch back to a dumb phone.