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[Desire General] Mekrel:
I love how people call Sense "overrated" when they don't actually know what Sense is.

Sense isn't just a launcher, if you understood this, you wouldn't be calling it overrated.

Sense gives you FM Radio, T9 Dialer, better contacts application that shows more info about your contact's Facebook content, touch to focus camera, face detection camera and loads, loads more.

Also, the Sense email client allows you to set out off office and send meeting invite requests to, as someone who uses his personal phone for work - this is critical.

How can you call these features overrated? I heard plenty of ASOP followers climaxing when Cyanogen finally received FM Radio....

These were part of the Desire before CyanogenMod for the Desire had them, not that I'm slagging CyanogenMod off - it's great we have a choice of the ROM we use.

Maybe it's because people came to the Desire from different handsets, I owned a iPhone3G and 3GS before I had the Desire and in my honest opinion, Sense is the only third party software that polishes Android enough to compete with iOS in terms of looks.
[Desire General] tomjol:
I was an iPhone user until I got my Desire. Used Sense ROMs for about two months, jumped to a vanilla ROM, never went back.

Your opinion is valid, but it's just an opinion.
[Desire General] bamboo12:
one thing i miss from sense is the copy/cut/paste feature, nothing on the android market/roms even comes close in comparison
[Desire General] zaphyr:
I guess this was intended for me?

I'll be the first to admit that there are many good apps and widgets coming from HTC/Sense. And at first I really missed them, but, after a few days I couldn't care less. Not one feature from Sense that I used could not be replaced. Of course different people use their devices in different ways, like you and your work email. I don't, so I have no idea if there are no other app that has those features. I'll be surprised if there's not.

I just prefer a "clean" device, and not be locked down by any carrier/manufacturer. I would prefer to own a Google device, but Nexus One is getting old, and Nexus S looks like sh*t, so I'll have to wait for the next Nexus device and hope for the best. Luckily, porting Android from Nexus to Desire doesn't take to long, at least without Sense on top.

Btw, you coming from iPhone explains your desire to be "locked down". Setting the iPhone as a example for how Android should look like? I hope I never see the day ;-)

Personally, I came from HTC Diamond, to HTC Hero before getting the Desire, so I know Sense. I've used it all the way until a few months ago.

Cheers
[Desire General] EddyOS:
The sentence about being 'locked down' with a Desire is a load of BS. Sense is in no way locked down compared to the iPhone. I've come from an HD2 and had a Magic when it first came out and even then hated stock Android so I'll always stick to Sense-based ROMs as although I like function I also like style
[Desire General] ste1164:
I love sense better than stock imho. But the iPhone isn't as locked down as say WP7 and being locked down isn't all bad.
[Desire General] mr.r9:
For people who say Android should 'learn' from Iphone, I say sod off!! WebOS is much much nicer & prettier.

To Adam: do we need a new kernel from HTC to support 2.3 on our devices because of drivers or is it irrelevant?
[Desire General] martino2k6:
I think I remember seeing cut/copy/paste in one of the screenshots (or video?) posted by Google for 2.3, although I'm a bit worried it may be just restricted to certain Google applications (like Google mail at the moment). It would be really nice if they embedded the feature globally in a TextView element and allowed developers to turn it on/off as appropriate...
[Desire General] Salival:
Does anyone know when will Web market appear? Like Appbrain!
[Desire General] samleung:
I completely agree. The way Android looks at stock is nothing to write home about, it's functional but hardly pretty.

I too use Launcher Pro, but with Sense running beneath it so I can use the dailer, contacts, and other HTC apps. The Desire HD roms have even more polished Sense features, and if LeeDroid ever came out with such a Rom, I'd install it in a heartbeat.
[Desire General] Sector51:
Very nice job Google!

I'm really happy Gingerbread is here! I'm sure this will be a great improvement!

Running Oxygen v1.0 and it works perfect! So I don't feel the need to change to Gingerbread so fast...I mean...can it be much faster than the superb Oxygen rom??

At this point, I don't really care about 2.3, I'm more than happy now!
[Desire General] winstoncbull:
You're mental
[Desire General] leemwoo:
imma wait til adamg gets a chance to put in gingerbread into oxygen...

nexus S looks good, but no one knows if it is as flimsy as the galaxy S, which feels like a toy phone. desire is much more solid in terms of build.
[Desire General] Sector51:
Let's wait for google to release the real source of 2.3

No port from other phone :P
[Desire General] owziee:
Blah... Sense still looks way better imo!
[Desire General] leemwoo:
ah yes...the wait...SUCKS
[Desire General] Mekrel:
Appreciate your views and of course everyone is entitled to theirs, but I don't see the logic in getting rid of Sense only to add applications from the market to get similar functionality. For example, DialerOne.

In regards to email, there's TouchDown which costs a fair bit of cash in comparison to other applications on the market and it wouldn't be logical to spend money on that when I already had those features with the HTC email client.

Apart from that there's no other applications that can do that functionality, not even K9 email.
[Desire General] tommo123:
well, i remove htcs email; client since i use k9 only. removed gmail app as well.

one thing i cant replace is their news widget
[Epic 4G General] kalico17:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html

whats this mean for us??
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
People *****ing that the epic don't have it
[Epic 4G General] kalico17:
lmao. fair enough
[Epic 4G General] acegolfer:
A more important fact is that the first 2.3 phone is Nexus S, which is almost identical to Galaxy S in hardware.

Most importantly, it has hummingbird 1ghz cpu.
[Epic 4G General] kalico17:
can roms be developed for the Epic using this SDK?
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
/thread
[Epic 4G General] wheezyfbaby:
LOL That's accurate.
[Epic 4G General] luis12285:
lol I don't think we will see gingerbread on the epic 4g..... gingerbread supports "free" wifi hotspot.... sprint is not going to like that...lol
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Froyo supports it also. Sprint just blocked it
[Epic 4G General] SubnetMask:
Is it possible to unblock it, or has it been removed from the Kernel?
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
Give it time and we will have it like we did on eclair
[Epic 4G General] juryduty:
Don't be so quick to discount what the community is able to do. However, the kernel source may be needed to get it working properly on our hardware. I'd just say don't hold your breathe for it, it can be a lot of work to port code, just look at cm6.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Yep BT is working on mobile ap in his viper rom thread.

Sent from my awesome epic 4g
[Epic 4G General] luis12285:
Oh I know.... I have wifi teather on my epic but I don't see sprint doing much else with our beautiful phone....then again I don't know.... they still sell touch pro 2s
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ragin:
Hi Guys And Gals.

This is a place to BRINK it out.

YEA, We Have a good phone, good ROMs Good kernels, But something is going WRONG. I am DRUNK, don't know!!@!.

BRING it out, POUR your VENOM here.

PS : KEEP OTHER FORUMS CLEAN.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] thurtig:
Good, good. I am drunk too.

i9000 - a good piece of hardware, undeniably. But why do we have to root and lagfix it to make it _usable_? Samsung seems to make no effort in fixing this. I hope the just-announced Gingerbread will fix the lag-related problems. Low latency audio is also something that I am looking forward to with Gingerbread -- multitrack audio notetaking on the go!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] digitall1982:
and where is that beer ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gslayer1988:
You're saying like we (Galaxy S owners) get the new Gingerbread version of Android.

You're just being drunk or did I miss something ? :P

(not trying to be a smartass whatsoever, just wanting to know if its true)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] thurtig:
I trust we will get Gingerbread, since specs between the new Nexus S and SGS are almost identical. BUT if there is no official update after all, I trust the gentle folk here at XDA Developers will see to it that the port for SGS is made :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Technecium:
Isn't that what Twitter and blogs are for?

No seriously.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] webstar1:
What r u talking bout, fukd up Samsung will never release gingerbread for us. We will have to port it again which will take another 10 months before we get a gingerbread beta. The desire and Droid incredible already have betas in there thread by using nexus s system files. LIKE W T F!!!!!!!!!!! there porting is so easily and I was hoping we would have something like that.

~Webstar1
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ragin:
OH ****, I am having an urge to flash a ROM now....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ragin:
I dont know why I browse xda after a few. Seeimg some GOOOD ROMs to flash.
[Nook Color General] clockcycle:
This is quite an interesting device, coming from a "name brand" behind it, stands to say it may get some decent support compared with other Android Tablets with iffy futures as new devices get pumped out replacing them too often, too quickly.

Anyways, reading on the CPU specs, it has 3G capabilities, any devs considering working on getting this to work? Perhaps catch some e-ink nook free 3G waves? :rolleyes:

thanks,

-CC

RE: http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/28/nook-color-processor-revealed-arm-cortex-a8-based-ti-omap3621/
[Nook Color General] pokey9000:
It supports 3G in that you *could* hook a 3G modem to it. But the CPU has no wireless of any sort built in. It's like saying my 17 year old HP calculator supports 3G because I could hook a 3G radio to its serial port.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Robby Light:
Hey Community

is there any way to run a function when my app exits?

I want to save a variable to the Isolated Storage every time the user exits my application.

Do you know a way?

Thanks and have a nice day

Robby
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Ren13B:
There's a few ways depending on what you are looking for. You can use Application_Closing() and Application_Deactivated() in App.xaml.cs. If you just want it to happen on Back button press you can override it but it's important you don't break any guidelines or your app will fail the market place checks. Here's the basics of it:

protected override void OnBackKeyPress(System.ComponentModel.CancelEventArgs e)
{
//Cancels the back key press
//e.Cancel = true;

//Executes the back key press
//base.OnBackKeyPress(e);
}
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] DarkAngelFR:
Hello,

I had many issues with the exit stuff (back or home buttons). My isolated storage was not being correctly updated...

So I add some code in the setters of objects I was using : UpdateStorageLocation, a function that saves all data in the store. This way I always have my storagelocation updated. Of course if you have many data to save it could be something you won't like to do, except running the save async (which I haven't done yet). If you need help doing this do not hesitate....

See Ya'
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] keyboardP:
If you can, I recommend trying to use Binary Serialization. In one my apps, it shaved the saving time from 930ms (using DataContractSerializer) to around 15ms (and preferably async for the user experience).
[Streak 5 General] Trust_no1:
Sorry about the question, it might be asking before

I have problem with the battery it can use only about 20 hours without use anything just data enable.

In battery use it appears Cell standby and phone idle drain battery up to 40% either, is it normally or my battery defected ?
[Streak 5 General] Jezza0:
That's about the same as I get on official O2 2.1 build. See my post discussing a couple of processes that seem to use more CPU than they ought. This does impact the battery quite significantly. As far as I know, SystemPanel is the only app that offers the monitoring functionality to enable us to check CPU usage.

HTH
[Streak 5 General] Trust_no1:
Mine running official Froyo but battery still suck !

Sometime I've fully charged before go to bed and when i wake up it drain my battery 35% for 7 hours while I'm sleeping
[Streak 5 General] betono:
Same here - around 40% down during the night...

The meter is kind of strange - it goes really easy down to around 40% and then slows down - yesterday i played around 1 hour with only 14% left...
[Streak 5 General] Trust_no1:
So i want to know what's exactly do with battery, what app running in background or what service ?
[Streak 5 General] Jezza0:
This is exactly what SystemPanel will tell you. The lite version is free but won't give you the monitoring info. I highly recommend you get the full version and you'll be able to quickly determine what's consuming your resources.
[Streak 5 General] bigfoots1:
I accidentally bought 2 spares if someone needs one cheap.
[Streak 5 General] technillion:
My batt was losing 17% an hour on IDLE on Steve's v1.4.6 !!! I dropped back down to the good ole default...now I only lose 2% an hour on idle.

...Also ordered a Mugen battery!!
[Streak 5 General] Computerized:
I didn't used the dell streak before , but im using Samsung GT-I5503

I'm used to have the same problem and , the battery drained ridiculously and i dont even get a complete 12hours idle

then i figured out that there is an option in the (( Settings --> Wireless & Networks --> Mobile Networks )) called (( Enable Always-on mobile Data )) which is enabled and faded which I can't change it, and yesterday I removed my SIM card from the phone then i inserted another SIM card from another provider , I went to the same option and i found it enabled but not faded , so i removed the tick mark from it , put back my main SIM Card , and now the battery is running as expected which is more than 40 Hrs + per charge with normal use , and before I used to charge it twice a day with normal Wi-Fi use

Just to remind you , I'm using a Samsung Galaxy 5 GT-I5503 - Android 2.1
[Streak 5 General] Jezza0:
... so you basically disabled your mobile data, and can no longer access the internet unless on wifi? Well, I suppose that is one way to increase battery life! :D
[Streak 5 General] Trust_no1:
Thanks i will try that
[Streak 5 General] Computerized:
I don't have a data plan neither enabled Data connection before on my mobile , and i also deleted the access points from the phone just in-case it didn't use the mobile data connection because my providers are bastards and charge around 3 cents per KB :)

Anyway , what I'm trying to say is if the option (( Enable Always-on mobile Data )) enabled , it will try to use the connection device inside the phone as long as I'm not connected to a Wi-Fi , which will drain the battery more than normal , but when i had it disabled the battery life increased more than 5 hours
[Galaxy Tab General] mmace:
Guys, I read my local paper on my bus journey home each day, it's usually over 40 pages and can be 30-110Mb in size (depending on adverts and photos)

I've tried all the free readers and the only one that works without crashing is the free office app that came with the Tab, however this doesn't have a way to jump a few pages, for example, if I'm on page 20 and nearing home I want to jump to the back page to read the sports pages before I get off, with the office app I have to swipe right to the end

Is there anything out there that can handle the paper and also be able to jump around pages (and preferably, one that is nice to look at and maybe even animates turning pages!)

if anyone has any paid PDF viewers, can you try the paper and let me know how it handles it? (todays happens to be the smallest so far at 21Mb though I'll be putting tomorrows there in 16 hours so it depends when you read this as to which you download)

www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf

Thanks
[Galaxy Tab General] daniel.weck:
EzPDF reader is my favorite, does everything you need and is updated frequently by the developer.

http://www.appbrain.com/app/ezpdf-reader/udk.android.reader

Unfortunately there is no PDF annotation tool available for Android yet...
[Galaxy Tab General] Maris_:
I've been using RepliGo Reader to handle some of my larger PDFs and find it satisfactory. It has a nice Reading View, supports Bookmarks, lets you go to any page you want, and select text for copying to another app. If the PDF has been set up properly, selecting the Bookmarks option shows a Table of Contents for fast moving around larger documents. It even handles the Adobe DRM files, which is one of the main reasons I use it. So far it has opened everything I have thrown at it, which is not the case with some of the other PDF readers I have tried. There is no fancy page animation, just a solid and usable app.
[Galaxy Tab General] mmace:
I've tried that, it doesn't like large PDF's

I will give that a go, thanks
[Galaxy Tab General] daniel.weck:
I'm currently reading a graphically-rich 12MB book with 740 pages, and RepliGo Reader really lacks the zoom + navigation features that make the reading experience acceptable. On top of that, large books take *ages* to load, the font kerning is often wrong (weird character spacing), and the page refresh logic is really distracting (transition from blurry bitmap to fine text in scalable vector graphics mode).

That's why I recommended the cheaper, but more full-featured ezPDF Reader. ;)

I hope you eventually find what you need :)

Cheers, Dan
[Galaxy Tab General] mmace:
can you try it with the newspaper I've linked to?

I've just uploaded todays which is 40 pages and 65Mb (av 1.6Mb per page) which is about normal each day and will be more challenging than a book that's on average 0.016Mb per page

the pages in the 20's are most difficult as they have adverts and classifieds in them

www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
[Galaxy Tab General] bubblebob:
ezPDF is one of the best I've used so far
[Galaxy Tab General] le3ky:
tried them all, repligo is the fastest page render by far.
[Galaxy Tab General] mmace:
how do they cope with the paper I've linked to above?

that's all I'll be using it for

www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
[Galaxy Tab General] Croak:
Have you tried the Adobe Android app?

Might also want to look into turning it into an epub. Download Calibre for your PC/Mac, let it do the conversion, and can even be setup to automatically pull down news sources and convert them to the format of your choice, and sync them to your device of choice.

Just to reiterate a bit, Calibre rocks.

For epub readers, I'm really fond of Aldiko. And Perfect Viewer is also a nice app for CBZ, PDF, etc (though the UI could use a bit of work).
[Galaxy Tab General] Maris_:
I downloaded the paper and tried it with the free Adobe Reader app from the Market and it works fine. All graphics and text are there. If you use the "Continuous Scroll" you can quickly scroll through a birdseye view of the pages until you find the one you want to view. The "Fit to Screen" view does what it says and a double-tap on an article or text area will zoom it to an easily readable size. It also supports pinch to zoom if you need a different size. Long-pressing the screen brings up a scrollbar across the bottom and some other options.

RepliGo Reader also renders all but the very first page for some reason, but it is a paid app, and for a newspaper, the Adobe Reader does just as nice a job for free.

I tried to take screenshots of the various menu options and choices, but neither app will let me create one. No such thing as a long-press on the back button because they immediately go back until they exit.

Hope this info helps.
[Galaxy Tab General] mmace:
Hi, I've tried the official Adobe Reader and it never even renders the 1st page, it just crashes the Tab after a minute or 2 of trying

I will look into the ebook thing, thanks

I've tried the official one and it had trouble loading any pages at all and crashed each time :(
[Galaxy Tab General] faugusztin:
Or not. I have a few PDF books i bought from Manning, and Calibre fails flat on face on those files. Yes, it does convert them - but all pictures are destroyed during the conversion and because of the signature at bottom of every page, it makes the final epub file even worse.

Only if there would be a reader which could read both epub and pdf formats in one app.
[Galaxy Tab General] mmace:
I just tried it to convert today's 120Mb paper to an 80Mb ePub, just uploading it now to test
[Galaxy Tab General] mmace:
Trying to import todays paper into Aldiko and it's said "Importing Books..." for over 20 minutes now, it;s only an 80Mb book, I think this software has failed at the first hurdle

Any other "decent" ePub readers out there?
[Galaxy Tab General] Maris_:
Sorry these apps didn't work for you. I didn't have any crashes using the link you provided with either app on my Tab (T-Mo version, not rooted). I'm out of ideas at this point. I even tried it on my Nexus One and had no problems. Sorry.
[Galaxy Tab General] mmace:
maybe it's because yesterdays paper was so small?

can you try again now?

I just uploaded today's which is 120Mb

www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf

Hope it's not my Tab :(

I've also done an ePub, www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.epub which is 80Mb
[Galaxy Tab General] daniel.weck:
Converting a PDF with rich column layout (like newspapers or magazines) into an EPUB is a terrible idea. EPUB is designed for reflowable text, not for pixel-perfect ("fixed layout") documents.

I noticed that ezPDF provides "intelligent" navigation features, to automatically move from one column to the next, in order to mimic the human reading flow (eye movement). Unfortunately some PDFs (including the 60MB example kindly provided in this thread for testing) are badly formatted and do not indicate the correct reading flow.

By the way, this unfortunate mediocre PDF encoding is the main cause for awful EPUB conversions. The misuse of typesetting tools in the publishing industry results in pretty poor content quality, structurally-speaking (because the emphasis is on visual appearance, not raw content organization).

So, the best course of action is to continue testing PDF readers (in depth, not just superficially => use previous/next navigation features, double-tap zoom with column scroll-locking, pinch/stretch zoom for fine margin adjustments, placemarks / bookmarks, etc. etc.).

Some PDF reading apps are better maintained than others on the Market. There may be opportunities to report bugs or request features.

Cheers, Dan ;)
[Galaxy Tab General] daniel.weck:
LOL, even my modern laptop struggles to browse this PDF smoothly :p

I don't expect a mobile device to offer a smooth reading experience :rolleyes:

Don't bother. EPUB conversion is not satisfactory for this kind of PDF content (as I explained in the post above).

Cheers, Dan :)
[Galaxy Tab General] mmace:
the 60Mb one was "created" by myself, each page sent to the printers is around 4Mb, I then put them all together in 1 file and then "print" to a PDF file at 72dpi and A6 page size to reduce the file size

If you download the 120Mb one today, that one is the original files just merged into 1 PDF

I cannot test PDF readers in depth because most don't even open large PDF's like todays
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] studiozeroseven:
So now that 2.3 is out and the specs of the Nexus S are dang near the Vibrant... it would be fairly easy to load onto our devices right?

Do you think the FFC will work with the upgrade?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBrandonWRX:
I imagine someone will make it work since it is just drivers.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rakeshchn:
So what are the highlights of Gingerbread..i mean for ordinary users?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] studiozeroseven:
Everything is listed here:

Gingerbread 2.3 Specs