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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmstlist:
I agree with distortedloop. It is well established that the T-Mo Vibrant has UMTS 1900, which can account for its AT&T 3G connectivity. But nobody was able to prove that it was ever connecting to AT&T on UMTS 850.

How to prove? I'm not sure it's so straightforward but let's give it a try. Say you take a phone that has UMTS 850 but *not* 1900 (e.g. Telstra Desire, T-Mobile Defy), and a Vibrant that has its 850 band "unlocked". Put the same type of SIM in both (e.g. AT&T; or you can test this in Canada with Rogers, Telus or Bell). Visit a coverage area that you believe has UMTS 850 and not 1900.

You should be able to view the cell tower ID of both phones in the Testing menu or using an app such as Tricorder. If you can show that the Vibrant is connecting to the same UMTS tower ID as the 850-only phone, you've proven that the Vibrant connected at 850.

I'm not sure if there is an easier way - has anyone been able to find an indicator in any of the diagnostic menu that tells you *which* frequency band you are on?

This thread seems to indicate no UMTS 850:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=868478&page=2
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
There was a Debug menu on the i9000 that you entered via a dialer code that showed you what tower, and what band (frq & umts/gsm) you were on. I'd have to search around for it. I wonder if the dialer codes from the Galaxy S line will work with our phones.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
it's in the wiki links in my siggi

here's the direct link

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php...:_Check_Which_3G_Frequency_my_SGS_is_using.3F
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
Thanks.

I have sigs turned off because so many on here are more distracting than valuable.

I'll head to your profile to check it out. ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
unfortunately the code it's not compatible with SNS

only works in SGS
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
Yeah, I just played with some of them...*#*#4636#*#* works to give us similar information, but actually, that's irrelevant, since the discussion kind of moved to whether the Vibrant actually connected to 850 UMTS/HSPA, so it's whether the codes work on the Vibrant or not that matter.

I don't think anyone here is thinking the Nexus S will work on AT&T, either 850 or 1900. :(

edit: a useful update to the wiki might be what codes actually work on which phones.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheEscapist:
Canadian Nexus S to replace Captivate?

I currently have a Galaxy S Captivate from Roger's(Canadian AT&T). I'm considering getting a Nexus S with AT&T bands off contract from Mobilocity when it comes in March. Since you guys all have nexuses (nexii?), I was wondering what you all thought of it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheEscapist:
Mobolocity in Canada is getting the NS in march, and it uses AT&T bands.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
AT&T bands on the 3G side? Can you link something that shows that?

We're talking UMTS/HSPA (data), not the GSM (voice) bands. The current NS does AT&T bands on voice already.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
please google your information again, because that is not right at all

MobilityCity uses the same band as Wind Mobiles

and that is 1700+2100

AT&T / Rogers / Fido / Telus / Bell they all run on 850/1900
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
unless they release a new SNS with 850/1900 bands, it will not work for 3G, unless you don't mind being stuck on EDGE
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheEscapist:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/20/nexus-s-comes-to-canada-courtesy-of-mobilicity-and-maybe-bell/

I already posted this in the other AT&T band, but http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/20/nexus-s-comes-to-canada-courtesy-of-mobilicity-and-maybe-bell/

Assuming they aren't lying, an SNS with the proper bands will be out, probably around that time.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
that is just rumors

it will be totally natural for Wind and MobilityCity to bring the SNS to Canada

but i have serious doubt about the big 4 (Telus, Bell, Rogers, Fido)

the PR guy most likely didn't even know about the Tech Specs required for such a feast
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmstlist:
He's not the PR guy, he's the CEO. He knows exactly what specs would be required for the Canadian incumbent carriers to get the Nexus S.

If you think about it, the AT&T compatible Nexus One also came out with about a two month delay after the original. So this isn't so farfetched.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
it also isnt far fetched to think that samsung and google would not want to leave out an ENORMOUS population by excluding 850/1900mHz 3g bands. all thru canada, USA with att, mexico, there are a TON of users. in fact staying strictly on tmobile 1700/2100 only gives samsung 2 options to sell phones to in this hemisphere of the planet, tmobile and wind mobile.

so it makes sense that they would want to capture as much market potential as possible.

BTW, the mobilcity rumor is a very credible source. this is much more than just some random blog stating wild claims. i'd bet money on it;).

which means, do i buy the nexus s in march? damn decisions....
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
Kind of like how with the Nexus One they left out the ENORMOUS population of users that are on Verizon and Sprint and other CDMA networks in this hemisphere..? ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
CDMA is blocked off ecosystem. Every single device must be approved by the carrier.

The CDMA version was actually ready to go, but Google backed off on it. Probably for that very same reason.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
Yes, that's true, but I don't think Google's out to sell a bunch of the Nexus phones; the line is supposed to represent what Google thinks should be the gold standard for hardware and software. The point is to show how good Android can be...large sales of a specific device is just a nice plus to that goal.

If it was all about selling to enormous numbers of customers, it wouldn't be T-Mo only, available at Best Buy only, and GSM only.

Samsung's got great experience selling the same basic phone to both GSM and CDMA carriers, so no reason that couldn't be pushed on with the NS.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
But even from the stand point of being a developer phone, half of the developer population can't even write their apps for a phone they don't buy cause they can't use it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Well, the reason samsung can do it is because they tailored each phone for the carrier.

The vision of google is to be carrier independent. So those two goals butt heads.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
Agreed! It's a damn shame that Google's attempt to upset the apple-cart in the way cell phones are sold didn't pan out. :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
That's why i got the Nexus, to give my support to Google's goal.... even if it's an uphill battle

now, it'll be easier if some one can hack the USB host drivers to enable external HDDs :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] outkast22:
[Q] nexus s on att?

I have a iphone 4 on att. Kinda gettn bored and lookin for new adventure. Will the nexus s run correctly with no issues on att? I looked into a nexus one a while back and I was told it would not not run on 3g. Is this true for the nexus S?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
Answered in the stickied FAQ at the top of this section.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hansmrtn:
It works great on ATT for me.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] outkast22:
but you dont have 3g, right?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] outkast22:
sorry, i tried searching , i guess not long enough lol
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
it's rather obvious :)

the bands are not right
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerPodacter:
i'll put the definitive on this, no it will not work on ATT 3G network, so really there is no point in buying the nexus s if you are on ATT. i mean, go ahead, but i'd wait a bit since an ATT version might come out soon. rumors though, nobody knows for sure.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
AT&T Nexus S soon

Looks like you att cats are getting your wish:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/nexus-s-coming-in-a-new-atandt-flavor/
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenvan19:
Its completely speculative. If one were coming to att why not announce it?

Sent from 1.5GHz CM7	Nexus S.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crachel:
Isn't this more or less how it went down for the Nexus One? I mean it was all rumors in January 2010 whether that phone was going to happen.

Definitely purchasing this phone when/if available..
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Probably because it still hasn't gotten full fcc approval.

Yeah, same thing happened with the N1. I think the fcc filings came out around late january, and phone released in early march.
[myTouch 4G General] Jeffmeister:
So the specs were released for the Samsung Nexus S and I am very disappointed.

1GHz Cortex A8 (Hummingbird) processor

16GB iNAND flash memory

The AMOLED Screen should be nice, the only thing that is nice about this phone.

It is basically a Galaxy S with Gingerbread ROM. More internal memory.

It will be a nice phone, but I expected a dual core processor.

I hate non physical buttons as my N1 had lots of issues with them.

I honestly don't see myself upgrading to this phone...

No 4G, No Front Face Camera, and a Samsung built phone.

I will stick with my MyTouch4G and I think the rumors of developing for the G2/MT4G were gonna stop when the Nexus S was released were just that rumors. There will be development for it... but it will be to set up CM7 (Gingerbread) for older phones.
[myTouch 4G General] VDubLife:
It has a front facing camera and has capabilities to run HSDPA
[myTouch 4G General] kkevin94:
It does have the FFC, but no hsdpa+. I still think it fails. STILL NO LED NOTIFICATIONS EITHER!!
[myTouch 4G General] ArcticWolf91:
It does have a front facing camera. I was holding out on getting the MyTouch 4G for this phone. Now I'm still pretty torn on which I should get. This is really unsettling!
[myTouch 4G General] Jeffmeister:
Ya I was wrong about the FFC but still no HSPA+.... that sucks...
[myTouch 4G General] 21productionz:
I am very disappointed in this phone, and in Gingerbread. I was expecting a lot of wow in both and I don't see it. I'm not saying it won't have major speed improvements, but I thought GB was supposed to be a UI gangster =D. Oh well there's always next year (HoneyComb).
[myTouch 4G General] tk192:
The Nexus S is simply a US version of the Euro Galaxy S with stock Android on board, NFC chipset, downgraded Bluetooth connectivity, no 720p video capture and no removable storage (no SD card). Compared to the MT4G it has less RAM (mt4g = 768mb nexus = 512mb), no hspa+ capability. So in my opinion the only upside to the nexus S is stock Android w/ up to date OS upgrades from Google, and 16gb of on board storage.
[myTouch 4G General] sicdroid:
I really don't get why they fingered Samsung to build the Next Nexus device. Maybe because they build phones like Apple.... With trendy advertisement and the illusion of awe. Lol. Only Apple can sell millions of people a 10 in pad that does nothing more than the average smart phone out there.. :)

Avatar helped, didn't it? HTC makes great devices and they opt for "Quietly Brilliant".
[myTouch 4G General] itmustbejj:
I think they went with samsung cuz of the near field chip. Google is said to be pretty excited about it.
[myTouch 4G General] sicdroid:
Yeah, NFC is a nice piece of tech and an advancement for sure... I wish them luck, but I know there is going to be a lot of pissed developers, modders, and just plain device users not having an SD Card. The whole point of Android and Googles revolution is the open freedom. What is next???? A Unremovable battery? :)
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
Most big business transactions are done via a sealed bid process. It's quite possible that Samsung had the lowest bid and won the contract.
[myTouch 4G General] sicdroid:
No doubt money was the motivation, which does surprise me. Google is not afraid to spend money. You would think as open as google is with their VERY FAT wallet, they would have not chosen the cheaply made plastic device as opposed to the metal and durable devices for their very own Nexus Series. I guess I just dream of the solid build of metal and glass we ask love on our MT4G, with a 4.3 screen, and no physical buttons.

I understand their reasons for the choice, I just don't understand the reasons of their choices. Lol.
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
It's quite possible that Samsung used the success of the Galaxy S series to seal the deal with Google. We all know about the serious issues with Galaxy S phones. However, they sold millions of units worldwide and have established brand recognition. I'm certain that Google took that into consideration when awarding Samsung the Nexus contract.

Moreover, it appears that Samsung used a different GPS antenna in the Nexus S than in the Galaxy S, and got rid of the RFS system. It's quite possible that Google had a lot of say in it. In fact, the replacement of the GPS antenna clearly suggests that the faulty GPS in the Galaxy S phones is a hardware defect.
[myTouch 4G General] itmustbejj:
Samsung has established brand recognition within the android community...and it is not good. Specifically within the developer crowd, so it seems counterproductive to make a developer phone from a company that most developers have sworn to stay away from.
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
I think I made a right decision getting MT4 after I heard NS won't have memory card support and AMOLED.
[myTouch 4G General] foriesg:
Not Having a SD will make it difficult to MOD/Hack

I'm sorry but I love Google I've had every developer phone hated to sell my nexus one but the Nexus S is not spiking my interest at all. It is lacking toooooo much. Plus the MT4G has been upgrading pretty quickly it's already rooted and I know CM won't let us down on Gingerbread GO ANDROID
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
Agreed. Chalk me up as a member of the Android community who will not be buying any more Samsung phones. However, money definitely talks, and I'm sure that factor definitely came into play.
[myTouch 4G General] ethutch:
Samsung is a powerful consumer name so there's "cred" there. Also, Google may well not have wanted to put too many eggs in the HTC basket. You get a LOT better support from your vendors if they know they are not single source. So it may have had a lot less to do with unit cost and a lot more to do with reminding HTC they are not the only game in town (my opinions differ but I have to use the device, not write contracts with the vendor).

Overall the Nexus S is better than I would have expected from Samsung. Their "cred" comes with a lot of "consumer grade" baggage; I generally avoid their products. It is probably unfair at this point to call Samsung "cheap junk", but no one is going to accuse them of building high end equipment either.

Comparison wise: I waited about 7 months for project emerald, driving everyone around me only somewhat more crazy than normal in the process. I got the Glacier on the release date and cannot say a single bad thing about it. It is a worthy example of the ultra-high quality I expect from HTC.
[myTouch 4G General] dragonstalker:
I bought a behold the day it came out and dealt with its problems. I had a stock vibrant for 4 days when it started with its problems. I will never buy samsung again. Can't believe google allowed a company known for defects to produce their next flagship. Ill stick to my mt4g till something that actually beats it comes out.
[myTouch 4G General] vinnyjr:
The Nexus S is very ugly, average specs, Samsung made and I'm not happy. I will keep my Nexus One, never sell it and guess I'll keep the MyTouch 4G.

PS - No SD card, no HSPA+, I can not believe no sd card. I always rave about the Nexus One to anyone who will listen, because of that I wanted the Nexus S real bad but I am a real nut when it comes to cell phones. I will probably figure some way of buying that damn thing anyways.
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
i dont get how they put a FFC on it but Gingerbread has not native support for video chat? i dont get it
[myTouch 4G General] crx4xharder:
I'm a cell phone nut as well. To the point that im considering quiting my well paid cooshy job, and going to work for tmo. But I'm not crazy enough to buy a flop like the nexus s. I guess we'll all see what happens when its released. And Maybe, it won't be a huge disappointment ;-/
[myTouch 4G General] Jon C:
GTalk with Video Chat didn't make the deadline for the 2.3 compile. It will launch later, just like improved Maps with Vectors.
[myTouch 4G General] n1kki6:
And unless you have the nexus s you will be waiting on the update and even be lucky if the manufacturer updates with the native client due to the added software at launch.
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
You can get qik (setup your account though) and install on it.
[myTouch 4G General] n1kki6:
Thats a solution, I guess my bigger point would be the bigger issue, one I specifically had with the mt4g.

It claims bluetooth 2.1 which it was, but the did not use all of the bluetooth profiles form the android 2.2 update because htc didn't update them from what I understand. This caused my car not to be able to get my phone book on my nav.

From the looks of it people might run into issues with things like exchange support as well.

Probably not huge to some but when it an advertised android feature but gets pulled from a manufacturer it gets annoying.
[myTouch 4G General] gabelegos:
I think samsungs just a gimmick to get htc jealous and make a dual core snapdragon nexus two. Even though it probably had to do with money and samsungs bigger name. Google just wants this phone to be successful.

P.s. I think its kinda funny that the mytouch 4g stock with sense, gets better benchmarks than the nexus which was developed by google themselves. Its obviously a hardware thing.

Sent from my Iced Glacier, 2700 quadrant scores, nexus s who??
[Nexus S Accessories] svetius:
This is for Nexus S accessories!
[Nexus S Accessories] CraigP17:
Best Buy Mobile will have Invisible shields and Nexus S specific cases and belt clips at time of launch in store.
[Nexus S Accessories] benjar:
Any news on whether these are official accessories or not?

I hope it comes with the cool Android pouch like the Nexus One did, somehow I doubt it though.
[Nexus S Accessories] makelegs:
All I need is a car dock!

....just sayin'
[Nexus S Accessories] CraigP17:
No Samsung or Google branded accessories at launch that I know of. Just zagg invisible shield and best buy mobile Platinum Brand case and belt clip (made by seido)
[Nexus S Accessories] rodneygoff:
car dock! car dock! car dock! car dock! God please!
[Nexus S Accessories] benjar:
Thanks for the heads up
[Nexus S Accessories] uansari1:
Upon watching an unboxing video, I was disappointed to see that it doesn't come with a sleeve like the N1... I've been using the sleeve since I got the phone back in January on the N1 and it is still scratch/scuff free. :-/ I'm sure my N1 sleeve will be too short...
[Nexus S Accessories] tomqman:
not saying it will but alot of the time review/press phones dont have everything in the box that will come with retail. but i believe that the sleeve was made by htc not google so it probley wont come.
[Nexus S Accessories] Vegas_Sirk:
I would love to see some cases from Speck for this phone ... they did one for the Galaxy S

I had one of their fitted fabric cases like that one on my iPhone 3GS and loved it. Thats my only grip with Android is that the companies that make really awesome cases dont make them for a lot of the Android phones.
[Nexus S Accessories] isjr:
When I go to best buy I'm going to try my sleeve on their demo unit.

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus S Accessories] cu_ninja:
No sleeve included boo.
[Nexus S Accessories] Random Select:
It's actually a very tight fit for the Nexus S to get into the N1 pouch. Unfortunately the tight fit doesn't help since the power/lock button is on the side of the Nexus S. The phone is constantly awake due to the tight fit.

As for other accessories, I'm very disappointed that the Nexus S can't pair with the regular Nexus One dock.
[Nexus S Accessories] tekkitan:
Would love to see a car dock (with screw mounts, like pro-clip?).

Also a rugged case from Siedio
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] svetius:
This is for Nexus S themes and applications
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] rashad1:
[Request] Galaxy S skin for Swype

Edit: Wrong thread.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] karasu666:
hey guys. ok ive searched and searched and gone through thread after thread to try and find a working android build for an AUSTRALIAN TELSTRA HD2.

im still using the phone on the telstra network and have yet to find a rom/radio/android combination that works.

so far most ones ive tried have the problems where i cant answer half of my calls since the screen was so moody or other ones the battery would drain in just a few hours.

i keep hearing that mdj's latest desire hd build is fantastic so if anyone has a good combination of a rom + radio + android build that would work for my hd2 then i will love you forever!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] darrengladysz:
Hi,

I have a t9193 as well but first thing I did was flash a custom rom.

I am using Dutty's v9 on the windows mobile side and Mdeejay's 4.3 desire hd on the android side. It works fine but it needs a little time to get going. Also, you will need to set your apn info manually in Android so take note of it in windows. I am using the latest radio 2.15.50.14 without problems. T9193 is able to support most roms out there contrary to the t-mobile version.

Miri's v25 on htcpedia.com also works great.

Good luck.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] karasu666:
alright ive put on that combination exactly and it still has a problem where sometimes it DOESNT come back from the black screen when locked. is there any fix for this as its been my main android problem since the beginning T-T
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ultramag69:
You need to change the radio rom to something that ends in .50. Telstra radio roms seem to end in .51. I use 2.15.50.14 and it seems to work ok.

I'm using MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.3_MDJ_S7.5HD with my wm being Cheetah Rom 3.14 base. I've been running this for a few days now and its pretty stable.

Good luck with your Android, gingerbread (Android 2.3), will probably be available soon too, waiting for that...

Cheers....:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] karasu666:
yeh im using a .50. type radio and STILL having problems :( its like my phone doesnt want to do android at all and its really starting to frustrate me. almost to the point of wanting another phone. do i need to be doing anything else or doing a few more restarts???