yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
Anyways, i see Master is going to keep his developement in his site only now. So wsill the same rule apply? After a week he will release 2.1 to the people in there? This will be my first ROM flash and i want to try it before i donate...which im fine with, but just want to try it first.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
I mod my phone all the time on my spare time. I dont upload it and ask for donations...

People keep saying these people do it on their free times, least you could do is buy them a drink, Guess what, then Donate to me cause I enjoy this ****, I Mod my phone daily when Im not working or doing anything else. They do roms for fun, not to just get a damn Donation, so when we sit here and say they deserve it cause there doing this on their free time cause they enjoy it, well, so do I, I do it on my free time and I enjoy it too, but I wouldnt upload it here and expect donations and cry like a butthurt baby when its leaked. lol

20 bucks says 2.1 was no different (barely maybe) than 2.0.6 lol Yet he had yall wanting the next one and people kept getting inpatient I.E. spending their hard earned money on some rom/dude who is doing the same damn thing your doing with yours now on your free time, modding and playing with it.. lol

Master is a a disaster :D
[Vibrant General] jnutz:
I haven't donated to anyone but TW. I was giving him a hard time because he answered my question in a way that made it sound as if there was something wrong with asking where the donation goes. I think every should be able to ask what the donation is for if someone is going to be on here asking for donations. Don't you?

BTW what is your point?
[Vibrant General] r0man:
+1

Stuff like this is a fact of life on XDA, there are going to be trolls and asshats who think through their self-righteous preaching about donations will somehow change everyones minds. Maybe he needs a few extra bucks for a new child, loans, or whatever? I believe what Master was doing for slightly earlier access is entirely acceptable.
[Vibrant General] Alex530:
Couldn't said it better. You and eugene have nothing but the latest he just comes in takes your stuff and expects donations. That's just wrong.

Sent from the Bermuda Triangle.
[Vibrant General] r0man:
Well said. Flaming gets us no where and I am glad to see that you are not going to partake in it.
[Vibrant General] oka1:
+1

Well Said Somboinix....... all of the Devs here work extremely hard to develop a better experience....... well said..........!!!
[Vibrant General] jnutz:
Just be cool man. A lot of us DO understand how much time and effort you put into it and are very thankful that you do. While you have been making my phone awesome I have been out chasing girls and tearing up the desert on my dirt bike. All it cost me was a little donation and I got my life back while someone else takes care of my phones problems for me. Money well spent!
[Vibrant General] rsfaze:
I couldn't agree more, coming from an actual developer that means alot.

ps.. anyone that wants 2.1 since he stopped development, hit me up and I can share where I found his rom posted on a free download service. That guy is not too smart ;)
[Vibrant General] gfropr:
Your right I apologize for the flaming I have no right as to do so you guys put alot of hard work into these ROMS and deserve respect. Good luck in furthering the Vibrant experience :). Still getting a new phone though, I like a fast phone, the display is nice, but smoothness is what I want and this phone doesn't cut it but thats a different conversation.
[Vibrant General] Insomaniac10:
I just have to say that i have seen Master disrespect several people on this forum, including myself. He has such a false superiority complex, and it makes me laugh. He kangs, he steals, he flames, and he thinks hes God's greatest gift to the Vibrant community.

Ive never used any of his work and I never will. Eugene, and TW never disrespect anybody, unless they are disrespected first, and even THEN they still dont sometimes. No tears should be shed because of his ROM dropping, or if he disappears altogether. There is nothing that he offers that other developers have not already offered.
[Vibrant General] ryangera:
Sombionix is the perennial hero of the vibrant forums. I love you som. I love you hard bro!
[Vibrant General] Insomaniac10:
long and hard haha
[Vibrant General] jnutz:
That is a different forum.:rolleyes:
[Vibrant General] jnutz:
You mean TW is the hero. That crew has their act together.
[Vibrant General] Insomaniac10:
Link please?...hahahahahaha KIDDING, you are all sick sick bstrds ;)

Sent from my pocket rocket!
[Vibrant General] Joshochoa187:
All you missed was master throwing another tantrum over some thing stupid as always.
[Vibrant General] rsfaze:
I can't tell you all how much this reminds me of kingklick and the crap he pulled.. maybe Master is his cousin :p
[Vibrant General] Hawkularxda:
LOL +1

By the way... nice tags...
[Vibrant General] Joshochoa187:
I used to respect the guy until he lost his temper and acted like a child because someone had a leaked jk2 and eugene was getting it first. Then he told a guy who had kanged his framework to stop using it and then reported the thread to the mods. He uses eugene's kernels do why should he get pissed?
[Vibrant General] rsfaze:
I agree I told him how much of a ***** move it was to tell the dude he couldn't use his framework-res.apk. Like someone said he should of been flattered someone wanted to use something he actually made, but since that was really the only piece of his rom that he made, guess he couldn't have another rom out there with it.

Maybe he was afraid people wouldn't donate to him anymore.
[Vibrant General] decepticon:
Love the rom but I agree it's a ***** move to hold the rom hostage over a leak.

No "donor" is in any violation of the GPL and had every right to release it, sure it hurt Master's money generating capabilities but that is not what this forum is about.

It has always been about the sharing of information to improve our devices. I felt the same way when the unlock tool came out and only one guy had it and got pissed when the information was leaked out how it came about.

ASK for donations but don't make it a requirement to obtain something that can help everyone...don't be a ****.
[Vibrant General] Joshochoa187:
What the hell does he think jk2 and jk6 are they are LEAKS but when his s**t gets leaked it broke broke his little heart lol. He should have know it would happen eventually.
[Vibrant General] Five0nIt:
id like to know too.
[Vibrant General] MasterTroll1337:
Axura 2.1

w w w.multiupload.com/ZUSQKWBIY7
[Vibrant General] Alkaloid:
The childish drama around here has gotten absolutely pathetic.

People getting upset that someone shared a piece of kanged up, over themed, and not to mention OPEN SOURCED software based off of a firmware that was leaked to begin with, with another person, is just disgusting.
[Vibrant General] xtremekilla09:
LOL! insult to injury... haha
[Vibrant General] dbacchus:
I never used master's compilations, so I don't care much about the entire drama. Let people spend their money the way they want. But it's hypocrites like *r0man* who really bother me. First the idiot flames (in the worst possible way, with namecalling, nickname trashing, etc) sonofskywalker3 who just came to vibrant section *offering the truly great idea* he already tested (and succeded) on fascinate. It's just our luck (and sonofskywalker3's great personal cool) that he did NOT just say "the hell with the vibrant freaks" and left... And one day later, r0man proclaims "flaming gets us nowhere" :-D. Practice what you preach - should be the moral here. And, btw, master wasn't the one who 'invented' donate-for-early-release thing either...
[Vibrant General] xriderx66:
What happened with master and xda? He seemed nice to me he helped me on phone bricking problems?
[Vibrant General] T313C0mun1s7:
Dude! I actually work for a living. I don't have time to spend my entire day looking for this **** and applying it myself. Hell, I debate with myself for a couple days before I flash a new version of the same ROM because of all the settings and data restoration.

So I for one REALLY appreciate somebody taking the time and effort to put it all together for me into a very functional and usable ROM that suits both my tastes and my needs.

If I was still at home with my mommy, then I might have time for this. However, I am not, I have 5 kids of my own to raise. A PHONE just is not worth this type of commitment to me.

So, in short, thank you developers! All of you.
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
I thought it strange at first. But if you are going to be a dev and the first wave from the firts post of the version you have to answer all the stupid questions as you have stated above, I had no problem with making sure the first to test it and complain about the pre release were donners. The little cash he gets goes to the site and his time. And his darn good roms.

While I do not disagree with your comments I just look at them with a different perspective.

What has been striking to me is the large amount of lowbrow immature behavior by some. The loudest and most obnoxious are never the most numinous. There have been some very well said good points on the first pages of this thread. Nice to see. I'll just focus on that.

I hope Master gets over his frustration and realizes lashing out is not too cool either. He does great work. I hope he will realize in any community there are some bad apples, perhaps more when they can hide behind a keyboard and monitor. (and some are like 13)

Right now there are people flaming his site and one jerk even posted the early release 2.1 on his own forums. Nice.

Completely unnecessary.
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
+1

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[Vibrant General] MasterTroll1337:
You have jerks posting it here too - w w w.multiupload.com/ZUSQKWBIY7

As was so clearly pointed out: There is nothing wrong with "sharing" it.
[Vibrant General] borrusownage:
does anyone know if 2.1 uses the jk6 modem
[Vibrant General] rsfaze:
It's nice to see people are getting wise to Master and his childish ways.

Think about this..if every developer held back a release until they got enough "donations" would we even be on 2.2? and I mean Froyo not Master's numbering scheme for his roms.

I think Master needs a dictionary to understand the definition of donation, but since he is so busy I will do it.

do·na·tion

[doh-ney-shuhn] Show IPA

–noun

1.

an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.

Funny no where in the definition do I see where a donation is given to get something in return. What exactly is the point of donating if you expect something in return? That's not a donation, that would be called a purchase, and of open source software, how do you charge for something that is FREE?
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Hehe, was going to say the same.

Personally, I have no problem with Master's work, even if it's just theming. Don't approve of the unattributed kanging and attitude, but lots of people like Axura.
[Vibrant General] dbacchus:
While I do agree with your notion regarding donations, I think you are completely wrong on nearly everything else: :mad:

1) There is nothing nice about what's happening

2) Master may have been wrong, but he just followed the path started by others.

3) This thread is full of sh*t and increasingly looking like a witch-hunt troll fest.
[Vibrant General] rsfaze:
1.maybe nice was not the correct adjective, maybe I should of said people are starting to use their brains for once.

2. Didn't anyone tech you two wrongs don't make a right. Master and noone else can justify his behavior towards this whole thing.

3. This thread is what it is, a discussion about what has happened here. Notice Master took his donations and hauled ass on XDA, you expect anything but a witch hunt?
[Vibrant General] xaymaca:
i have to agree with the thread starter on this one, the "DONATE TO ME" started to go from bad to worst

you'd think they were getting government cheese to how they was acting LoL
[Vibrant General] faldiin:
GL Master.

I am tired of the Donation for Early myself. This has gotten out of hand. That is my thought.

What I am getting lost is all this stuff of my code, my work. This is all Open Source. People are forgetting this. Getting greedy and ruining a great idea. I wish them all good luck but at this rate it will turn people off and stick with stock. That is where I am now these day.

Faldiin
[Vibrant General] joe.kerwin:
You didn't read correctly. I'm saying, if the link below his thread is "CWM flashable JK6 modem" over any rom without wiping. Why would we want to, much less donate to something that wipes and resets everything, requiring a new setup. Why do we really owe him for that? What about the generous guy who made the cwm flashable modem? He asked for nothing. Think about it.
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
I just selected to apply Axura 2.1 from clockwork and now says complete. Shouldnt it rebootnow? Giving me choices on screen for me to do (in green) and reboot isnt one of them. Choices are

apply sdcard:update.zip

choose zip from sdcard

toggle signiture verification

toggle script asserts

Go Back

Is this what it should be doing?
[Vibrant General] krazie1:
Hit "Go Back" then "Reboot System Now"
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
Ah, thanks. I can now see whats up with this ROM :)
[Vibrant General] faldiin:
I could not agree any better. There is a few Apps that are used to make all this possible. I dont see them getting a share of the cut. I dont see Google getting a cut. This is because it is open source minus the apps like Gmail and Gtalk....

Faldiin
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
Got another question. Trying to restore all my stuff from Titanium backup...chose batch and run all 208 of them but it asks me after every app and i have to then click done when it is installed so its like doing one at a time. Isnt there a way to let them all install without me telling it to every time?
[Vibrant General] krazie1:
I dont think so i believe its only installlation of One at a Time.
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
OK, thanks. Its going to take a while then :o
[Vibrant General] fred8785:
thats not technically true.... If you buy the paid version of titanium, it will restore all of the apps without having to press on each one..... for me that feature alone was worth the money
[Vibrant General] m00nshake:
Ok even sombionix, who I admire and respect, is stating this. Can anybody explain to me what happened? I've tried wading through all of the posts but can anyone summarize what has transpired? Thanks. m00n
[Vibrant General] faldiin:
You can do a batch restore with out paid version. You just have to approve each install. Still a great item. Best back tool out there. Just started using it since I did not understand the whole app.

Faldiin
[Vibrant General] krazie1:
Whoa i didnt even know the Paid Version of Titanium Backup can Restore all the Apps without doing One at a Time. I guess i was Wrong.
[Vibrant General] skoalbandit123:
This thread turned out nicely. Whats up
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
Your not a very popular guy ...LOL..well to some anyways. I never asked anyone for 2.1, it was posted in here so i downloaded it. This is my first flash.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
as you know master asks for donations on his rom if you want the latest version early, basically even bumped the release back for those who didn't donate, he bumped from 2 days to now 4 so he get more donations before the release and more people become inpatient and just donate. Someone then gave someone else a copy of it before he officially released it. So now he is mad and went else where.... Lol

People were like chanting donate, donate, like money hungry people.... Lol
[Vibrant General] skoalbandit123:
WHY WOULD YOU FLASH SOMETHING WITHOUT A CHANGE LOG?!?!?!

Axura VE 2.1

New Wallpaper
New Battery Icon
Added Slacker Radio
Added Chrome-To-Phone
Updated Zeam Launcher
Updated ADW Launcher
Updated Titanium-Backup
updated nfo
Included CWM Update.zip
Changed nfo Location
GPS Icon Changed
Switched 3g to H icon
Customized Devs4Android BootAnim
Customized Devs4Android ShutdownAnim
Includes Facebook (Can be uninstalled)
Includes Twitter (Can be uninstalled)
New Email app (Works 100%)
VoiceMail Notifications
Stock Dialer Look (On Request) - (For Now)
GPS Fix for those having problems
JK6 Modem
JK6 Vold
GPS Icon Fix
Fixed MMS
New green glow when on call (Not ugly anymore)
Grey Market

MD5: 3fcdd1d99e707dc84253561d2b12fb39
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
Its time consuming but ive actually so far opted not to keep about 7 of them.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
This.

Paying for infrastructure is one thing.

If you want to code for a living, you're free to get a job or look for a better one.

I appreciate the work that is done, even though I don't consume it, and I appreciate the people who do it.

But the F/OSS community has a history or taking people's "fun" and turning it into obligations.

This is why so many people have an allergic reaction to it.

Yes, lots of developers do it for fun. Then, lots of users ***** and moan as if they are an OEM that just sent them a phone with a buggy ROM or something on it, and demand fixes ASAP.

Donations are just that, donations. Giving someone a donation does not imply they are obligated to do anything. It's a gift, and donations are usually optional.

A donation to get priviledges is not a donation. It's payment.

Crappy developers will always benefit from people who failed Semantics 101. It's just the way it is.

But I do think people tend to make what is fun for a lot of people and turn it into a second job. That's not the way it's supposed to be.
[Vibrant General] m00nshake:
Ok got it. Thanks for the summary. This is just bizarre.
[Vibrant General] Joshochoa187:
I haven't seen this much drama since Eb8er's froyo leak thread. Which master was the one who started argument in. lol go figure

Don't flame me bro!
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
How about another question...when Titanium is asking me about apps to install, when it brings up system apps like the Market, its says "this is a system app. Do you want to REPLACE IT"

I take that to mean the ROM installed it already and wants to know if i want the old version that i saved. Is that correct? Is also asking me about Maps.
[Vibrant General] 651stp:
I liked Master's Theming and such. Never Really stayed on his roms due to having mount issues though. "Every" time someone asked him about mounting issues in the thread he would "duck/dodge" the question but would answer anything else regarding "when is 2.0.6/final coming." He normally used someone elses fixes to fix his problems. I feel really sorry for anyone who "donated" to him, bcuz hes shutting his website down and left xda. He came in, got all the money he could then left the country. sorry guys LOL
[Vibrant General] faldiin:
Thank you for the link to what Somb said. I did not know about that part. I have spent a better part of the day trying to figure all this out. Everyone needs to get thicker skin. We are watching devs run due to people and inappropriate comments. It is said and bad on both parties.

Faldiin
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
Would you have felt better if he had called it a Paid VIP Subscription Service? KingKlick basically did that and got *****slapped for it. The fact is, that charging for open source code is completely LEGAL and allowed under the GPL. Master "technically" wasn't doing anything wrong is having a paid section for donators. You can either choose to be ok with that or not, but it is his legal right to do so.

Whether or not that goes over well with people who feel entitled to the fruits of other people's labor immediately and without paying for it is a different issue and you certainly have the right to your opinions. You certainly also can decide for yourself if a ROM that is basically a themed set of other people's work is worth donating to or not.

Technically speaking, nobody involved actually did anything wrong. Its just a matter of how well (or poorly) the situation was handled.
[Vibrant General] faldiin:
It is trying to replace the one in the rom. I would not recommend this since there may have been changes to make it work with that rom.

Faldiin
[Vibrant General] knicks235:
so is this rom even worth all the hubbub? is it comparable/better than obsidian, onyx or macnut? i downloaded the zip but im a tw fan so is it even worth flashing?
[Vibrant General] dalephil22:
A donation is simply that. It doesn't guaranty he'll go on forever or that you'll get constant updates. Hell, Google stopped support of the N1 and took less flames than master did! He didn't force you to donate our submit payment. You did it freely. There is no fine print. Move on.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
I don't think anyone said he did any wrong.

No one is questioning the legality of it.

They are questioning the ethics of it.

Paid VIP Subscription is more authentic than Donate when that donate is a requirement to get priviledges that the community as a whole does not get. The donate is a payment in that situation, not a donation.
[Vibrant General] xtone:
YES that's correct.

next time, when u make back up for apps.. just backup the USER apps.

there's no point backing up SYSTEM APPS since a fresh flash will already have them pre-installed.
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
Is what i thought. Thanks again.
[Vibrant General] dalephil22:


Point taken.
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
Good point. I have seen change logs for up to 2.0.5 and he said 2.0.6 was nothing much at all. The only thing i se there i wont care for is the Devs4Android BootAnim

Devs4Android ShutdownAnim

I dont want any boot anims or shutdown anims. Was looking forward to having the T-Mobile anims gone.
[Vibrant General] rsfaze:
easy to call it a new version that people will donate for when there is no changelog to back it up. Another sideways thing he seemed to do. Each time people asked for a changelog, we got the response " I don't have one". What dev spends endless hours fixing things and can't remember them or provide a changelog? The one that doesn't change anything...
[Vibrant General] m00nshake:
I personally like Axura roms and donated to him because of that, not for any kind of special privilege. Same goes for TW and Eugene. They all have given something to make my Vibrant worth owning, and that's why I've donated. Although pre-release access is a nice bonus, I donate because I want to thank a dev for hard work that goes into these roms.
[Vibrant General] Dbarker 2:
This thread really seems to have brought out the worst in a lot of people on here. I have used TW roms and I have used Master's Roms and they all have been great. I think its sad though the disrespect that people have for others just because they are online and no one knows who they really are. Master is definitely not the only dev on here who gives special privileges to those who donate. Unless you think there is a difference between giving donors a pre-release and giving them a beta version to test it before public release... It's the same thing. Those saying that Master is making it longer between public releases, well its important to remember that between 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 his site was down because he was upgrading it to make it better for everyone that uses his forums, and as soon as he was done with that he released 2.0.6.

Coming on here and flaming him is not doing anyone any good, and to see other devs come on here with one line attacks on him doesn't do anything to help their credibility either. I like Axura Roms and I am a little disappointed that there may not be anymore. I like TW roms too and I will probably be trying out some of their new stuff here soon. And I am looking forward to the new "Black Hole" Rom. This isn't meant as an attack on anyone, and I really do appreciate the help that people have offered on here as I definitely don't have time or the skills to make my own Rom. I just wish it would have a bit less drama - because it really is not necessary.