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[G Tablet General] MSU_Sparty:
I very much appreciate your reply and your suggestion to ask questions in the relevant thread. I suspect that I'm not quite ready to do that as I am so new to all of this. A smarter man than I once asked "how do we know what we don't know?" The point, of course, is that it's hard to ask good questions until you know enough about something to be able to make use of the answers.

After downloading the new OS update, it seems there is some improvement in speed. I found Viewsonic's response to Staples' pulling of the tablets to provide a little insight into why they don't support the Android market but I disagree with them on that decision.

Anyway, if I can get the full market and little quicker response on the device, I'll probably be happy for awhile. I did sell off my netbook (at full purchase price!) in favor of the GTab and really think I can get to the place where I'll be totally happy about that decision.

Have a Happy Holiday!
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
Well, you can ask your questions in this thread, and I'll try and help you. I have been shying away from that, because helping people can quickly become a full-time-job. I used to help moderate at LinuxForums.org, but I stepped down because I was spending too much time at it.
[G Tablet General] Willie G Skull:
Another android noob here ... just got wife gtablet for gift and am trying to root it as described in post. When I try to download z4root, all I get is Cannot download. The content is not supported. Any idea what I am doing wrong?
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
I had the same problem I had to download it on my computer, and use aUSB pen driver to transfer and install it to the tablet. You can also use a microSD card.
[G Tablet General] Willie G Skull:
Ah! Thank you so very much! It worked!
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Oh my gosh! This is AWESOME!!! :eek: Why didn't I see this when I was cruising the forums before (and shortly after) I got--and borked--my gTab?! :mad: May I recommend that this be "Sticky'd"??? It would help A LOT of people, I'm sure! :)
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
If you read through this thread, there are a lot of negative comments about NOT flashing a custom firmware. I suspect that is why it was never stickied, as this really is a forum about modding.

The original instructions really need to but updated for the newest firmware. Maybe ol' helpful Rev can do that? But, I suspect that he no longer is using the stock firmware, and can't offer any advice.
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Yes, wasserkapf, I saw the Rev went to the dark side! :cool: But he IS still suggesting that us n00bs try the stock, first. ;) :) You guys ROCK!!!
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
badtypist,

No I have not gone to the dark side. I have an experimental G-Tablet for using the

stuff that might cause problems -- and I have a stock G-Tablet for that side of the

road. And I actually use both interchangeably.

I see all there folks taking about speed, etc. Stock runs fine. Some of the other

stuff actually don't!

But I'm not worried about it. Just gonna have fun.

Rev
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
I updated my original post (the answer to Rev's question) to reflect the current firmware.
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Oh, goodness. Silly me and my big mouth! I certainly hope I didn't offend you! I was just teasing, but you know, when I see that you're a Rev, even TEASING that you went to the "dark side" is not appreciated, I'm sure! :confused: You and wasserkapf have COMPLETELY helped me, and I can't thank both of you enough for spending your entire Saturday, teaching this old teacher how to do things in a calm, cool CORRECT manner! :)

I've come a LONG way today, and learned A TON, and owe it all to you guys! [And I STILL think this thread needs to be "sticky'd"!!!!] It is EXTREMELY helpful!!!! :)
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
badtypist,

Yes, I really am a Rev -- 43 years a pastor and servant.

I try to stand for things that are right and honest and kind and are compatible

with my faith. And I try to let my faith make me strong enough not to say

something ugly even when someone deserves it.

I didn't pay any attention to the "dark force" -- I knew y'all were talking about

alternate ROMs.

Enjoy yourself and keep learning.

Rev
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Oh my gosh, I've learned so much today, it's amazing! I really starting to feel comfortable with the whole tablet/Android thing! :-) I kept the original firmware, but am trying to make this tablet my own. :) Do you know of an app that I can keep in my classic home page that will tell me how many gmail and POP3 messages I have on multiple accounts? I read about one that does gmail and K-9, but I do not think that the regular/standard email app that comes standard with the gTab is called "K-9". (Or is it?) :o
[G Tablet General] Naysses:
At wasserkapf;

Thank you so much to put all this information together.... I was reading all over the forums and did not know the exactly order to make the stock rom complete to install the market.

I am sure a lot of us (stock rom) and the new wooters will appreciate this effort.
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Naysses, FYI, wasserkapf RULES! :) And don't you think this should be a sticky topic?! It really will help lots of people! It sure helped ME! :D
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
I think that the originator of a thread has to ask the moderator to sticky it.

Bye the way, the browser on my new tab keeps crashing. I don't know how to fix it, I may be forced to take the back off and push the reset button. Fortunately, I now know it can be safely done. :D

Edit: I uninstalled Adobe Flashplayer and the problem seems to have gone away.
[G Tablet General] poqeteer:
I am a bit surprised that no one has mentioned using Amazon's Appstore yet (unless. I missed it). No modifications required and you get access to apps. Not as many as the market, but and other source nevertheless.
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
wasserkapf, we make a good team! :) I'm still playing with my resurrected toy, but I'm heading to bed now! [I've been replying to all messages via my PC, and watching gTab instructional videos from my PC, too. Don't worry, just watching, not DOING!] :eek: You've rescued me enough for one day! :o Anyhow, I was playing on the gTab, and realized I don't have any sound. But... tomorrow's another day! [AKA: I'll bug ya tomorrow!] :( ;)

Still trying to figure out a way to get apps from the market. I don't have a cell phone, so I couldn't set it up the first time I attempted, and now it just won't let me download saying there's no phone associated with the gmail account. I'll be working on THAT tomorrow, too! :D

Stay cool, wasserkapf, :cool: and I'll hopefully catch you tomorrow. [If you haven't planned on running to the hills tonight... to escape!] ;)

Oh, and we should ask the Rev to sticky this. Oh, wait, that's right... he might see this! Rev... we're asking!!!! :)
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
The Amazon App Store has a few strings attached. It seems that the apps installed using the Amazon App Store app will no longer work if the Amazon app is uninstalled. There are also suspicions that it is sending data to Amazon, without you knowing about it.
[G Tablet General] poqeteer:
What about freewarelovers? Was able to get dolphin HD from there.

Is there list of "good" vs "bad/suspicious" sites? I ask because I know where to get stuff for my old trusty tp2, but android is new to me.
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
I mostly just use the Android Market for apps. I do have the Amazon app on one of my g-tablets, and the free Angry Birds RIO that I got with it is great. I just wanted you to know of the possible downsides of using it.
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
bad typist, et al,

Did you pay any attention to the date of this thread -- it was started on Dec. 2, 2010.

We were running stock version 2967, which has been updated several times. The

only Roms I remember were TnT Lite which was at about 2.0 or so, and VEGAn, which

was about beta 3 I think. There were no kernal updates and I don't remember

anyone talking much about NVFlashing. And the stock software didn't work all that well.

Bottom line is that except for any updating Waterhead has done, this file is outdated.

It has been used and had slid to the bottom of the pile -- and other people have done

extensive threads on the various topics Paul so kindly wrote about.

It is the moderators decision as to what gets STICKIED. I have asked them about

STICKYing other things and they know I do a lot of threads with info to help people.

I have no problem with what they sticky, but in this instance it just duplicates other

threads that people already are using, passing on, etc. And I trust the moderators

to do what is best for the forum.

If you think part of what is here is worth posting and stickying, feel free to copy and

paste it into a thread and ask the moderator to stickying. Fine with me.

Good to hear all of you enjoying working and playing with your tablets!!

Rev

P. S. -- The original thread was not anti-modding. It was just giving folks

who wanted to stay stock or who wanted to move slowly and carefully

a source of info. I plan to always have a stock-compatible tablet -- or one

I can revert to stock quickly -- for my use.
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Hello Rev,

Good to hear from you again! :D

As always, you gave more great advice, and are the voice of reason. :) The post really helped me a LOT (as did wasserkapf's update), so that's why I thought it should be stickied (particularly, from the perspective of a real n00bie who got burned once and wanted to take things MEGA slow the second time around), but you know much better than I, so I respectfully bow to your comments. :-) It 's so funny that the original post is a mere 4 months old, and is considered ancient! ;) Ha ha.

I missed "talking" with wasserkapf today. He patiently guided me through a lot of my questions, and I learned an exorbitant amount from him yesterday. Today I started working and learning on my gTab at 7:30 AM and by 2:30 pm (after working straight through), I still had the same unanswered questions and unsolved problems, but didn't want to bug either of you again. [Wasserkapf, because I took up WAY too much of his time yesterday, and you because, well, Rev, today (Sunday) is YOUR day!] ;) But I still can't view YouTube videos (I get an error code of "Sorry, this video cannot be played" despite my loading up Adobe Flash v 10.2, I can't seem to find a way to put my standard wallpaper on it (the same one I use on all desktops and laptops--it bears my company name and charitable organization), and I still haven't found an app that puts a count of unread POP accounts on the home page/desktop. [I tried Executive Assistant, which worked for the gmail, but not for the POP accounts, and if all I could get are the gMail unread counts... I might as well just use the free app: gMail Unread Count, which I can't even download from the app market, for some strange reason.] :eek:

So thanks to you and wasserkapf, yesterday was SUPER productive, but today was totally UNproductive! :o

If you have any suggestions on how to add a personally designed wallpaper (I was told it's not like just dropping a .bmp or .jpg file somewhere), how to have a real-time count of unread POP emails, and how to get my gTab to view YouTube videos, I'd certainly appreciate it, Rev! :) I hope you had a wonderful day today. You're a good man who deserves a day off! :)

~badtypist
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
badtypist,

I was out today, helping my mother. She moved last weekend, but everything was still in boxes! I was trying to hook up her internet connection (ATT U-verse), but something is wrong with the incoming connection, so no-go.

As for the YouTube videos, are you trying to play them in the browser or are you using the YouTube app? If using the browser, try changing the user-agent from "Tablet" to "Desktop". Open the browser and select the two gears icon in the upper right corner. Then change the "Page Display Settings" to Desktop.

I have been able to watch basketball games on ESPN3.com, using the browser. But if I watch YouTube videos (vary rare) I will use the YouTube app. The YouTube app has it's own version of Flashplayer built in. You could also try a different browser, like Dolphin or Opera.

For email, gmail has the option to import mail from other pop3 accounts. I have set my gmail up as IMAP, with folders and filters that direct the mail to the different folders. I have my ATT Yahoo mail forwarded to gmail this way. This is not done in the gmail app, but online. To read all of the imported and sorted mail in the gmail app, select the menu button/icon on the right side of the tablet, then select "Go to labels".

I see that there is also the option "Accounts", with the option to add an account. Maybe you can add your other accounts this way instead.
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Hey, wasserkapf! So good to hear from you! :) I sure did miss you today. :D I put the gTab away in frustration, but I'll whip it out and will try the browser vs. YouTube app thing, and see what's up! It's weird that you mentioned Dolphin, because I loaded that up on the gTab today! That's funny... we're starting to think alike! :p I don't know if that means that you're in trouble :D, or I'm actually starting to learn a thing or two about this little baby! ;) I'll start 'sperimenting (as the kids say), and will get right back to you!

Then I'll start looking into the POP3/Gmail situation. :) I'm glad you're "home" on the forums again. I feel calmer (and smarter) already. ;) :)
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Okay... first experiment. ALL THREE, the YouTube app, the standard Web browser AND the Dolphin browser gave me a "Sorry, this video cannot be played" error. :eek: I went to the same "Cooking with Charlie" video on the YouTube main page, just to compare apples to apples. [I have no desire to SEE tis video, it was just readily accessible.] ;)
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Changed the page display settings to "desktop" on the stock wewb browser, and... TAH DAH... I got to see "Cooking with Charlie" :D (which only lasted a minute, because it turns out that the boy is totally annoying)! :rolleyes:

YAY... I FINALLY learned something new today!!! YOU ROCK, wasserkapf!!! :p

I tried changing the settings on Dolphin, but kept getting back to the same video that didn't work, so I went to applications, cleared the cache, but the browser seems stuck on ththe "Cooking with Charlie" video that got the error code. So I just turned it off and back on again, to see if that will get Dolphin to unstick. [I used to use Opera on my PC, but changed to Firefox,. For android, Dolphin seems to be the most recommended, from what I read around the "net."]

HEY, now that I restarted Dolphin, THAT WORKED now, too! GOSH you are amazing! [That's it... I'm "thanking" you again!
[G Tablet General] poqeteer:
Well if you are worried about tracking data, then you shouldn't be using Android Market or Google search for that matter. :rolleyes:
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
I'm not worried, I was just letting everyone know.
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Hi Wasserkapf! :) [Just wanted to say "hi."] :D
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
Are you sure that you aren't stalking me? :p

(just kidding ya)
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Nope, not sure. I'm still on the fence. :p But I'll let you know when I'm ready to start the stalking, in earnest. :) Knowing me, I'll probably make a big announcement. :D Something to the effect of... "LET THE STALKING BEGIN!" :eek:
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
My new Woot g-tablet started having problems with Adobe Flashplayer. It seemed to work OK with the firmware version that was originally installed. I updated to the latest firmware (3588), and that wiped out the Flashplayer, so I had to re-install it. I used the version that is available from the ViewSonic g-tablet web site "Favorites" web page. This is the same version (10.1) that I have installed in my "old", and still stock, g-tablet. It works fine with the 3588 firmware in that tablet.

After installing it in my "Woot" tablet, I found that the browser would crash when trying to load a web page. This also happened with the DolphinHD browser. Uninstalling Flashplayer stopped this problem

I tried clearing the Dalvik cache, wiping data, etc etc, nothing worked. I then re-installed the 3588 firmware that I had saved, still no luck. Browsers still crashed with Flashplayer 10.1.

As a last resort, I installed the TnT Lite alternate firmware. I no longer am experiencing the browser crashing. This firmware has a newer version of Flashplayer, version 10.2. I don't know if installing this version in a stock 3588 install would have fixed my problems, as I would have to flash back to that version to test it, and I don't really want to do firmware hopping.

If anyone has a similar problem, here a link to the thread on the 10.2 version:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=990084&highlight=flashplayer

You can download it from here. I used the top Multiupload "Directdownload" choice:

http://www.multiupload.com/5FOUMVZI32

If you are not experiencing any problems with the 10.1 version of Flashplayer, you really don't need to upgrade. As always, install this at your own risk!

Yes, this means I have "Gone to the dark side", and installed a rogue firmware! I was forced into it, like many others who experienced problems with their g-tablet.
[G Tablet General] miggyg:
10.1 vs 10.2

The problem was Flash 10.1 on the favorite link from viewsonic. I had the same issue and installed an early "leaked" 10.2 from a google search. That fixed the problem.
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
YOU had to go to the dark side?!?!?! :eek: THAT'S SCARY, wasserkapf! :) Out of curiosity, what TnT version did you install? [And don't worry, I'd never even THINK of doing that unless I had a direct line to someone who knew what they were doing! :D I couldn't go through another terrifying disaster like the last one. ;) And I'd never put YOU GUYS through it again, unless I had one of you guys "on emergency backup" to call when I started the borking :o process.] :p
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
I used the latest version, TNT Lite 4.4.0. That can be downloaded from a link in the first post in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=842004

Interesting, that thread IS NOT stickied. I had to search for it.

I used the microSD card method to update, and it is fairly simple. That is the same method that I use to re-install the stock firmware. That method is described in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=892090
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Hm. I only knew about 2.2 and 4.2 (and their respective supplementals).

I read through the thread, and it seems pretty easy, but I'm still too nervous. ["Once burned, twice warned."] :rolleyes: But I have to admit, I DID download v4.40 JUST IN CASE I get a hankering for, well, TRYING things again. :-) To be honest, I'm now just using my gTab as a very expensive eBook reader, and that's about it. The keyboard that comes with the gTab is too annoying for me to use for any email or facebook responses. How's that "Adam keyboard" and "Gingerbread-based keyboard" on the TnT v4.40 differ, wasserkapf? Can you see a noticeable difference?
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
waasserkapf, I just found THIS cool info page...

http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...ink-adam-apps-keyboard-on-viewsonic-g-tablet/

If this is the keyboard that the TnT Lite v 4.40 has, I think I might be tempted to, ah, go to the dark side!!! :(
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Wow, I can just install the good keyboard without changing anything else. COOL! :D
[G Tablet General] K J Rad:
Sure... it's all starts with a keyboard... then before you know it, you're pushing nightly builds of CyanogenMod to your friends...
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
K J, if you knew what I've already been through with my gTab, you'd know that I'm going to go VERY slowly in making any changes after my first debacle! :) [Let's just say within the first 10 hours of ownership, I learned (firsthand) the words "borked" and "bricked" and almost gave myself an aneurysm!] :confused: :D If it weren't for my college-aged son and the very nice and helpful xda member wasserkapf, you'd still hears wails of grief coming from the south-eastern portion of the US. ;)
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
K J, oh sorry, I just got it! [I'm SO uncool!] :o You're teasing me about the addictive, drug-like properties of the gTab and all it's cool, fun apps and ROMS. Sorry about being so slow on the uptake. :D [Ask my 2 college-age sons, I'm really great at ruining good jokes--if I even get that they're jokes to BEGIN WITH!!!] ;)
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
The TNT Lite has three keyboard options. In order to change keyboard, you long-press an area where text is input (such as the Google Search bar). This will bring up an "Input method" option, which you then select. This brings up a window showing the available keyboards. TNT Lite 4.4.0 has these:

NI Keyboard

Android keyboard

Tap 'n Tap Western Keyboard

The NI Keyboard is the one pictured in the link you posted.

As for installing on a stock tablet, I did install some on my stock tablet. The How-To that I followed involved transferring some files into the /system folder. This requires root privileges, and may be too much "mucking around" than you wanted to do.

Of course, you could just try installing the keyboard apps and see what happens. Do the long-press method and see if alternate keyboards are then available.
[G Tablet General] K J Rad:
I do know.. I read every thread (and even commented in yours if I'm not mistaken...). Glad you got it working. The folks here are pretty good about helping out when they see a need.

BTW... Keyboard mods don't always go smoothly on stock G Tablet ROMs. Have you already installed the one you were looking at?

Edit: Don't be sorry about not getting the joke... there will be more to come... ;-)
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
I added the Adam keyboard app, and I can't seem to get it to work,when I tap and hold, I still get the usual keyboard. So I turned the gTab off and back on, and still same thing. I went to the settings, and tried to check off the NI keyboard, and it kept asking for my permission, and I kept saying yes, but it still won't work. :confused: I think my gTab hates me! :( [It's teh only logical conclusion I can think of!] ;)
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
That is because keyboards need to be installed into the /system/apps directory. When a user installs an app, it goes into the /data/app folder.

I followed a thread on installing keyboard apps, don't have a link for it at-the-moment. (will look)

Like I said, it involves "mucking around" and altering system files.
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
Here's a question... (please take a deep breath, wasserkapf)... if I do the new ROM thing to get the super cool keyboard, will I loose all my other apps and info I loaded up? :confused: [And yes, I'll start doing a backup, now that I'm even ASKING this question!] :eek:
[G Tablet General] K J Rad:
No, it doesn't hate you. Keyboards are handled differently on G Tablets (with stock ROMs) than on other Android devices. They have to be installed in a system directory that you normally won't have access to... (read that as: You have to root the device).

Or I could write a script that would move it for you.
[G Tablet General] badtypist:
I've got AndRootFile and I've got SuperUser on here. :-) [I must've already done something naughty that needed them, I guess. Don't ask me what, I couldn't tell ya!] :o So can I use one of those to do the transfer into the system directory? I'm guessing that using the ES File Explorer won't work here! :confused:
[G Tablet General] wasserkapf:
Androotfile should work. Copy the .apk files to /system/app. You will have to make that folder R/W to do that. Make sure you return it to R/O after you are done.

The hardest part is to determine which .apk is the keyboard one. I use the date of the files to determine this. If you just installed it, then it will have today's date.

EDIT: Reboot after doing the app transfers.