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[Captivate General] zelendel:
Ok guys enough about this. If you feel there maybe other roads you can travel like starting a lawsuit and such, then that is your right but this is not the place for it. Good Luck to you with what ever you choose:D

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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rubberwheels:
Here's what I did. I Flashed Axura 2.0.5 and i tried to use titanium backup. But the thing is that i backed it up before flashing but when i finished flashing. it didn't restore anything. So I was mad. I also made a nandroid backup before flashing too. so I decided to go into CWR and do a restore. Now my phone hangs at the logo screen. How do i fix this?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willsnews:
Odin

Still flashing , thanks to odin & tw
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rubberwheels:
odin with what?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willsnews:
A computer and the files you can find on this forum odin back to stock then try flashing again

Still flashing , thanks to odin & tw
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rubberwheels:
I have the JI6 tar.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willsnews:
You need the pit file as well

Still flashing , thanks to odin & tw
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Hi, I'm trying to flash the Froyo rom...but when I try doing it it says signature unverified. Do I need oden or something?
[Epic 4G General] raylusk:
If you are going to flash one of the dk17 based froyo roms you will need to odin the modem. I used this thread to accomplish that.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=849753

You might have a damaged download of the rom so you might want to download it again.
[Epic 4G General] richse:
It sounds like you are not actually in clockwork recovery. Did you install the recovery and then boot into it using the 3 hardware key method? That is the only way to get into clockwork from a stock setup.
[Hero CDMA General] mcmikecruz1:
I used z4root to root my gf's hero and installed titanium backup , backed everything up and deleted some bloat ware . I was careful only deleted stuff like sprint nascar , football , IM , facebook and gtalk , stuff she never uses and now I can't download from the market just gets stuck at starting download .

I also get a gapps error and force close the only google app I deleted was gtalk , Titanium won't restore it or the other preinstalled apps . I would like to install gtalk apk but she doesn't even have astro or similar and can't download it .

any help is appreciated thanks

Swyped from my EVO
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Yep, deleting gtalk did it. Go get a copy of the gapps from the cm thread, flash that, or pull the gtalk apk out of it and install it.

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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA General] mcmikecruz1:
Thanks for the response

What's the cm thread ? And how do I install it without file manager

Swyped from my EVO
[Hero CDMA General] andythegreenguy:
Get Astro or any other file manager, download the .apk file to the sdcard and select it from the file manager. It should prompt you to install it...

If not, read up on adb and you should be able to install it that way...
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
CyanogenMod thread. You'll have to use adb. There is a thread somewhere on how to push apk's with it. I'm not sure. Sorry.

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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
[Hero CDMA General] user7618:
Or you could just ruu and reroot. That would most likely be the easiest. You can find the 2.1 ruu floating around here somewhere or I think you can get it at sprint.com.

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[Hero CDMA General] mcmikecruz1:
Thanks

Swyped from my EVO
[G2 and Desire Z General] convolution:
Cyanogen mod Rom:

Pro:

-fast in terms of browsing through the menus and such (IE not lagging AT ALL when I scroll down hundreds of .apk files I have on my SD card)

-barebone ROM ready for customization (void of many apps the stock ROM and Virtuous ROM comes with)

Cons:

-lack of installed programs (had to install Android Market separately for goodness sakes)

-lack of flashiness (not as sexy as Sense Rom)

-much slower bootup time

Virtuous

Pro:

-sexier interface (HTC Sense)

-faster shutdown and bootup time (3 seconds and 2 seconds respectively)

-a lot more apps preinstalled

Cons:

-a bit sluggish when browsing through apps and such (IE trying to scroll through 100+ apps on your SD card)

There you have it folks. The completely subjective guide to these two ROMS.

This should be a good starter for Android noobs like I was two weeks ago when I first got the phone.

These two ROMS have little tweaks and mods that the stock ROM does not have that honestly go over my head but is suppose to give performance enhancements and streamline various processes.

Reason people use CM is because it is like the Google Chrome of internet browers; it is lightning fast.

Reason people use Virtuous is because it is more user friendly. You don't have to spend so much time researching where to download GAPPS and flash it with ROM manager like you would if you use CM.

I personally used the Virtuous ROM when I first started out, and I just moved to the CM ROM today once I got the hang of things.

Stock CM homescreen was kind of dull and unappealing so I downloaded Launcher Pro and downloaded customized docks for it, and now it looks pretty damn sexy.

That's just my two cents on these things.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddgarcia05:
I have CM RC3 w/ launcher pro. I find that at times when going back to my homescreen the widgets lag about a second or two behind. When I used sence on the device it would lag a lot. I would pull down the status bar and I had to wait for it to pull down, that's why I made the jump to CM. I really enjoy CM and have cut back on the widgets to prevent a lag.

Edit: CM has a separate zip with all the Google apps like market so OP I don't see why that would be a con. CM builds also have trackpad wake built in.
[G2 and Desire Z General] danielefeldt:
Great starting point on a comparison guide.

However, how is the CM Rom "Barebone"..? It has many features over stock and destroys any other build I have ever seen on any phone to date. The lack of Google apps was from an order by Google to not include any Google apps in roms. That is why there is the Gapps.zip located where the download is for the CM Roms.

I personally hate sense user interface since I like to have a single blank screen besides a clock widget and a pacman wallpaper. No app drawer Icon since i use flick up to open the drawer.
[G2 and Desire Z General] convolution:
That reminds me.

I forgot to mention that my G2 is overclocked to about 1.2 ghz and I have 1 calendar widget, 1 SetCPU widget, and 3 app shortcuts. That's it.

Overclocking works wonders, for those of you who wonder if overclocking has appreciable differences or not.

I suppose everyone has their own taste. Some people like to load their screens full of random ass widgets. Some people like it simple and have a clean homescreen. Others compromise between the two (like me)

And your point is duly noted.
[G2 and Desire Z General] danielefeldt:
Yes it is a setting you have to enable under Cyanogenmod settings...
[G2 and Desire Z General] convolution:
duly noted.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Okawa:
Also Sense UI takes up quite a bit more memory and it shows in benchmarks and in high end applications.

CM is stripped down so you can add items you want to add to it such as transitions and other UI tweaks with out having all the bloat of Sense UI.

Sense UI is ok and all but soon as you try to adjust your pixel density it will look like ass =/
[G2 and Desire Z General] xdviper:
It's all personal prefence. I like the Sense ui, but it really does take up a lot of memory. Using the Advanced Task Manager with Sense I can see when I free up memory, I'll have about 100mb left, meanwhile with the stock rom, clearing out apps, will give me about 190-200mb.

Not that it matters, because Android has great Ram management but still for the self conscience ones it bothers them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] G1_enthusiast:
i like virtuous because its nice and fast enough for me
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrbmg:
Nice little basic write up.

My first ROM to ever flash was the CM V6.1.0-RC4, and I found the GAPPS, after much researching.

I kinda like that way I have stuff set up after 3 days of permroot, and flashing this ROM, so I don't know if I need to test the waters and see about the Virtuous.

I've never had the delay on wake-ups, and the start up time beats the hell out of stock.

I love waking my phone up from the track pad, that was always weird to me having to hit the power key twice to unlock on stock.

BillY
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
Both roms are VERY good roms. I personally switch back and forth here and there for the fun of it. But my personal favorite would have to be CM. Virtous isnt too far behind it though.
[G2 and Desire Z General] shortlived:
Sense or no sense thats the difference. The only difference imo.
[G2 and Desire Z General] G1_enthusiast:
i go with virtuos because

1.FM radio

2.friends streams

3.news streams

4.full size stock

5. looks good

6.heard CM rom eat battery like crazy
[G2 and Desire Z General] Synchronize:
I'd just like to point out that CM has implemented an FM Radio app in the later builds, and battery life could not be better (18 hours under normal use for me).
[G2 and Desire Z General] jcX4ever:
This

Plus

Virtuous pros:

->Updating is a breeze.. I love the patches, unlike CM that you need to download huge file plus google apps and wipe every time update is around.

->I think there is more camera/video function on the virtuous.

->I love the hidden top taskbar.. multitasking is made easy.

->Built in Titanium back up

->Built in QuickOffice

->Did I say.. DLNA?

...---- You can output your pictures, videos and music to your TV.. how cool is that.

->When you hold and press power button, it gives you so many power related choices.

->Built in, SMS, MMS widget

->Register to HTC sense and when your phone is stolen, you can locate it.

->Much better car panel.

->I love the wheel like GUI when you adjust time/alarm... it is so much easier.

->'Clock' , has many functions.. Timer/Stop watch/world Clock....

->The clock + weather widget.. your screen rains/clouds/etc depending on the weather.

->Flip the phone while ringing and it will silent it.. very good function during meetings.

->I think it rings louder when it is inside your pocket.

->It has it's own navigation app.. It downloaded something on my first use... I think that's the local map loaded in your phone. You could probably still use navigation without data connection.

->FM radio is already stated above.

Virtuous cons:

->no built in swype yet

CM pros:

->unlike virtuous, you can put to phone to 'silent' so easily

->And, I have used CM for a long time.. could be that I am just used to it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] convolution:
none of the ROMS have built in swype.
[G2 and Desire Z General] shortlived:
I might be wrong but i think pauls rom does have swype also the vinilla villian or somthing like that. Anyway you can add swype to any of them pretty easy.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ositogriz:
Both great ROMS

I think that they are both great ROMs. I keep going from one to the other as soon as a new revision comes out. I do think that Virtuous could use the silent option in the power options, a percentage indicator when charging, and the auto rotate when in the home screen. Other than that, both ROMs ROCK!
[G2 and Desire Z General] skulk3r:
I generally use Battery Watcher for power percentage (shows it even when charging). Virtuous does have a silent option in the power options thing and also rotates now.

I use a sense based virtuous rom with launcher pro since I like the HTC apps (not so much the widgets). Uploading to facebook via gallery could not be easier and better managed. Also, the HTC camera app is really good! HTC sms app lags a little when I have over 400 messages to load and the contacts app lacks a filter.

HTC apps are the only thing holding me back from going CM
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ryanmo5:
I think they are both excellent roms however I don't care for all the dev added stuff. Its like t mobile only with the developers marks all over the place. Personally I use Enomther's rom and will always recommend him over any other. Stable, added optional goodies and lightning fast everything anyone could want. As far as sense roms go I would use EvilD'S mt4g rom as its amazing!
[G2 and Desire Z General] mejorguille:
Well technically speaking, it's not "shutting down" in the virtuous rom as it is "hibernating". If you run out of battery you will have a considerably longer boot time compared to CM. As for the separate google apps, this was done in order to please google since they sent cyanogen a cease and desist letter. Every rom that bundles in google apps, technically, is breaking the law. Google won't do anything about it though because of all the backlash they got for it last year. And there are also TONS of themes available now for CM that you can't really complain much about the looks.

Well you never have to wipe between minor CM releases unless you screwed something up yourself. Hell, I upgraded from CM5 to CM6 on my G1 with no major reprecussions. The camara definately is prettier on sense roms but CM has just as many options in it. Titanium backup is available on the market as well as DLNA, and quickoffice is the same as gapps; it's illegal to include it. There is a build in power control widget to replace the power button options. Flip to silent has been available since cyanogen 4.1.9999 I think, it's always been in settings. The new maps also prefetches information. A lot of HTC lookalike apps are available in the market (LPP, beautiful widgets, fancy widgets..)

Here would be my pluses for cyanogen:

-Feels faster

-less lag on homescreen

-much more themes

-easily customizable (EX: for the lockscreen, you can use trackpad wake, menu unlock, slide to unlock, rotate to unlock, gesture unlock, no lockscreen at all, unlock to messaging and phone, unlock with a gesture to a specific app, invisible lockscreen)

-built in power control in notification bar

-very stable

-CM7 will be available soon meaning gingerbread. Virtuous won't get gingerbread until the DZ gets a gingerbread leak (probably a few months from now)

and for virtuous:

-more useful/prettier HTC apps (camara, alarm clock, music)

-HTCSense.com services

-slower homescreen (both loading and rotating)

-more /system bloat, less ram available

Choice is yours though. I'm a CM fanboy since I've used it since before donut (1.6) even came out and sense always ran like crap on my G1. My thinking goes like this, if CM is better than sense on crappy hardware, CM will be better than sense on the best phone available (the G2, duh).

Don't forget about MIUI though, it's a real big twist on how android works and it reminds me a lot of my old ipod touch. It's very interesting but I am unsure of how I feel about it just yet. It takes a little extra while to figure out where all the settings are compared with how I'm used to them and the lack of an app drawer is....different. It's a total UI revamp.

No matter what your choice is thank god that we have all these dedicated developers that want us to have the best phone possible. Damn, I love open source.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jcX4ever:
It's really very interesting that you find the Virtuous Laggy, which I don't really find it that way.

BTW, Virtuous offers incremental updates like downloading just few data compared to downloading the whole ROM. I think I find that better. Again having the pre-installed app and not having to install those such as Google apps every time there's an update is very useful.

If CM makes CM7 first then I'll definitely will try it until Virtuous gets their Gingerbread version.

And I agree... lucky are we, devs makes so many choices for us.
[G2 and Desire Z General] enserio:
Well, I think you guys have hit the pros and cons right on the head, although I need a few more days to get the true feel of Virtuous. So far, it feels like it uses more power, but the user-friendliness is well in order. I'll report back in a couple of days.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dadewy:
Woohoo month old thread, back from the dead! ;)

Anyway I'd just like to point out that even though Sense is a memory hog, it matters not at all for your ability to run large apps: Sense quite happily kamikazis when more RAM is needed and simply restarts when you return to your home screen (push home button, or exit large app).

This happens every time I play certain memory hungry games. No big deal, takes 5 seconds for my screens and widgets to rebuild, that's all.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Shaquiel Harris:
Ill be running virtuous today. Honestly I really, really like sense over stock simply because of the looks and widgets. But cyanogenmod has come SO far and with the cyanogenmod settings and their latest stuff, honestly it makes things A LOT harder now. I've been Stuck when I flashed cm7 on my slide because of the crazy customization options we have now. but I refuse to flash it on my Vision simply due to the fact that once I flash it, I won't leave from it. And I wanna run sense just for a little.
[Nook Color Android Development] pokey9000:
Post here about anything you might have found out about the internal NookColor hardware.

Here's one to start with:

Look at dmesg under Android. The wireless driver is TIWLAN, and a little Googling correlates the line "Chip ID is 0x4030111" with a WL1271, a TI part with 802.11b/g/n, bluetooth, and FM. However, as far as I can tell Bluetooth isn't anywhere to be seen in the Nook ROM.

This document shows the typical setup for the WL1271, which is for WiFi to connect to the host through SDIO (one of the SD/SDIO/MMC interfaces) and Bluetooth and FM to go through a UART.
[Nook Color Android Development] staulkor:
There may not be antennae for BT and FM, but we should definitely look into this :)
[Nook Color Android Development] pokey9000:
Maybe not FM, but that document I linked shows a "WiLink 6.0 Solution" that uses an antenna switch so only one 2.4GHz antenna is needed for BT and WiFi.
[Nook Color Android Development] txskeets:
Ohhhh, this has some interesting potential! :)

I got Flash 10.1 to install, but cannot get the B&N Browser to Dolphin to recognize that its installed when I try to do something with Flash (tells me I need to install it)
[Nook Color Android Development] pokey9000:
Interesting, but let's keep this thread on the topic of hardware.
[Nook Color Android Development] marcus905:
Have you tried checking the ttys? Or even just trying to put a bluez stack + firmware taken from another device on it?
[Nook Color Android Development] Jsorvik:
BlueTooth

Please, Oh Please, tell me that this device can do BlueTooth. The ability to add a wireless keyboard would make this device Perfect for me!!!!
[Nook Color Android Development] mattpall:
Agreed, Bluetooth FTW. We could be one kernal injection away from BT!
[Nook Color Android Development] pokey9000:
I didn't bother; from that doc I posted there's a GPIO enable for bluetooth, and unless the BN developers were complete bozos they've turned it off and left it off in this kernel. We could go searching for it, but it would get tedious. I am willing to bet that it's referenced in the BN u-boot and kernel sources though.

The TI WLAN/BT/FM driver and firmware can be found here: http://gforge.ti.com/gf/project/wilink_drivers/
[Nook Color Android Development] th3c1am:
This might not be the right section. But what are the possibilities of overclocking to possibly run the tablet version of android "3.0" which is said to require 1ghz or faster processor??
[Nook Color Android Development] devis:
This is an interesting find. My guess is that it would have been too much of a hassle for BN to get a WIFI only chip so they opted for the ready made one and disabled the rest of the functionality.

But I think until we have a cooked ROM for the Nook we won't be able to see BT any time soon. This is too stripped down an OS.
[Nook Color Android Development] pokey9000:
It's clear that the NC is based on TI's ebook reference platform. Given the amount of TI silicon in there I wouldn't be surprised if TI cut them a deal on this WiFi module such that it was cheaper than another company's WiFi-only one. It's not clear what's inside the module, and for all we know there is no BT/WiFi switch, which would make it impossible to run anything but WiFi.

As long as the module has a switch, it wouldn't make any sense for BN to hard-disable the bluetooth. There aren't that many connections just to get BT data, and I'm pretty sure the OMAP doesn't use those connections (1 GPIO, 1 UART) for anything. It would only cost a few PCB traces and maybe a pullup resistor or two, less than a couple of cents at scale.
[Nook Color Android Development] luistorres1027:
The nook is getting 3.0 Already confirmed.
[Nook Color Android Development] molesaied88:
where was this confirmed? never heard mention of it at all
[Nook Color Android Development] bcpk:
It seems pretty unlikely, to be honest. The NC wasn't intended to run straight Android so can't see B&N being massively interested in supporting future Android versions.
[Nook Color Android Development] Facegarden:
That's a fairy tale. The next version of android will be 2.3, and nothing about 3.0 could be confirmed as it's likely 6 months away at least. And no one has really even confirmed anything about 2.3. It's all been sightings and rumors.

But back on topic - has anyone had a look at the TI Ebook reference material? Maybe they have a vanilla version of android that is made to work with the processor? It's possible the Nook hardware is similar or identical to some TI reference design - it is the first product based on that chip after all, maybe B&N just let TI design the thing?

EDIT: At the bottom of the page for this processor it says: "This product is intended for high-volume wireless OEMs and ODMs and is not available through distributors. If your company meets this description, please contact your TI sales office."

So Grr, looks like they're not going to share much unless you're a big company. Sometimes these guys have lots of support material for their processors, but I guess this one is too specialized.
[Nook Color Android Development] DebauchedSloth:
I browsed through a bit. Looks like very well supported hardware - the driver for the WIFI chip is in the AOSP source tree, and the graphics chips is pretty common.

It would seem to me that a port of Cyanogen would be very straightforward. The missing buttons would need to be mapped to something - maybe an additional UI component which popped up for menu and back? - but other than that...doesn't look too bad. Simpler than a lot of others, maybe.

And damn, this device looks like it would be pretty quick. It's no slouch now, and with Froyo...and maybe a touch of overclocking... it would be faster than a Nexus one with absolutely killer battery life.

A very commonly available, high-quality Cyanogen tablet for $250?

Sick.
[Nook Color Android Development] bcpk:
You could copy the Archos on-screen buttons (which look really annoying but are better than nothing)
[Nook Color Android Development] pokey9000:
Eh, as far as I can tell it's the same die as the 3630 but in a lower pin count package, without a package-on-package (DRAM/flash stacked on top) version, no camera interface, and only specced for 800MHz. The 3630 comes in 1200MHz versions, and as we've seen with the Nooter bootloader (by accident) it's possible to make this part run at least at 1GHz.

The datasheet for this part is the general 36xx series datasheet, and at 24MB isn't lacking at all (except for the DRM stuff).
[Nook Color Android Development] DebauchedSloth:
You could.

There's a thread in the general section right now about a button remapping app.

I just manually did what the app does, pulled the .kl files, changed VOLUME_UP to BACK and VOLUME_DOWN to MENU, pushed the files back and rebooted.

Et Voila, Bob's yer uncle, I now have menu and back keys...at the expense of losing a couple of volume control keys about which I care not at all.

Nice.