yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
Nils: a friend asked me and I didn't have the answer. Does your Business Sense ROM include a kernel? If they were using an AOSP ROM with a custom kernel before -- will a wipe and install from ZIP take care of all of this or do they need to do some other step when installing a Sense ROM after changing from an AOSP based?

thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yes, it includes the latest Incredible kernel and will replace the one that is already installed. A wipe and install will take care of everything getting off the AOSP ROM
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aostl:
He said he's got an upgrade. I would donate Thursday, payday
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rusty2663:
Is there any way to get the power Widgets in the notification drop down for this rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jpradley:
I believe every ROM package includes a kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
No 4.7 ?? Just kidding . Everything still running great.

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
It is not difficult but most people end up removing in other ROM's it so I have not knocked myself out putting it in.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Great

I am near a new release but it is mostly updating gapps, WiFi tether and the market so I am not rushing it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I do have an upgrade on one phone but I may have to replace it before I can get another dev phone for myself. I did sell one of my Incredibles so that money went in a phone "pool"

I don't think it is fair for you guys to chip in to get me another phone outside up upgrades.

And besides, I took down the PayPal link since I don't want anyone thinking I do this for the money.

Thanks for the thought
[Droid Incredible Android Development] khanam:
Apks of some things you were looking for nils

first time uploading a file to xda. hopefully it goes through. thanks

Edit: Btw I kept trying to flash this but it just does not stick.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Talkdj:
You is one classy guy!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gadget!:
Not really sure if this is what everyone is looking for but it should be close. You can obviously change the background to your likings.

I have had several requests for a stock Rosie skin so I have been working on one and I just finished it this morning.

You can find it in the second post here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=937119

Here is the preview:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] khanam:
This is quite stunning! Me likey!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Looks and works good. If you run into a problem with the flip clock flash the stock one in the 3rd post
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
If you are interested in a smaller font that looks like the built in font I included the Zergo font in the third post. Nice part with tis font is less app names are truncated etc.

Also included the stock font in case you want to go back.

If the feedback is good I would like to switch to it in the next build
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Have been running this rom since it came out and have never had random re-boots. Never had any 3g problems.

There were some problems with 3g earlier this week , but that was the network acting up , not my phone.

I read on several forums about the network problems.

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
You should not be having all those problems. Did you do a full install afer wiping data and cache? Did you by any change restore apps and user data with anything like TI?

The only time you should have a problem with MMS is if you have WiFi active and you can get a round that by toggling Mobile Network off then back on
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
freeze up tonight

i had a freeze up tonight...

was running 4.6, and Tune In Radio, and Dolphin HD browser.

Things just started to slow down, then I saw a Business Sense splash screen, but not the same one when you power up the Incredible. There was a much smaller picture of the skyscraper -- centered in the screen and "Business Sense" in small wording.

The only thing I could do was to pull the battery.

When I booted up, the UI seemed a little slow but now it appears to be back to normal.

Its been about 4 days with 4.6. I did a full wipe of everything before I installed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] miguel11691:
my wifi is getting stuck when its trying to obtain the address after i put in my password... it works on cm7 but gets stuck on this rom.. how do i fix this
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
Miguel, did you do a complete wipe of your data before installing Business Sense?

I was experimenting with CM 6.1 before installing Business Sense - 4.6 Desire Z based on Monday.

I thought I wiped everything out, but then in Recovery, I updated from ZIP instead of installing a new Zip from sdcard.

Shockingly -- I ended up with CM and this ROM mixed together. I actually tried to do WiFi and it got stuck. It was hell. Finally I did it right and my problems were solved.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] miguel11691:
what recovery are u using... im on 3.0.0.8... i wipe data then cache and then dvsomething lol and then flashed to 4.6 and then rebooted device
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
are you sure you downloaded the right ROM from the beginning of this thread -- the one meant for recovery v3?

If all else fails, do a wipe and install again. 2x is a charm for me when going from an AOSP, like CM to a Sense based ROM.

In fact, I can recall the last 2 times I've done this, I've always had to install twice (with a full) wipe. then it works BEAUTIFULLY.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] miguel11691:
will try that now im going to wipe and reinstall
[Droid Incredible Android Development] miguel11691:
im going to download version 4.6 for recovery 2 and see if that changes something.. im gonna change it 2.5.1.2 because the other way doesnt seem to work
[Droid Incredible Android Development] miguel11691:
nope still stuck on the obtaining address ughhhhh this ish is pissing me off
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
skip past that and do it later....

not a big deal. Use your 3G to log into your google accounts, download apps, etc, etc.

then Go to Settings and set up your Wifi. Don't give up.

Then if it really doesn't work -- maybe you have a cursed phone. LOL
[Droid Incredible Android Development] miguel11691:
you are going to kill me bro lmao.. all this time i put the wrong password in.. i forgot i had changed it lol... works now lol..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
you are killing me now!! I though you had a real problem!! LOLOLOL
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
Well you can do something for me, OK??

After 2 or 3 days, post a message or send me a PM..... compare your experience with CM to this ROM. I'm curious as to your impressions.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] miguel11691:
you got it bro
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
You guys scare me HaHa. I hate it when I can't duplicate a problem

Glad it worked out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Just put in the wrong password . Ha ha.

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
New version 5.0 in post #1

Changes:

Cleaned up a few more system apk's

Updated a few GApps to latest Market version

Updated and themed Market to v2.3.4

Updated to latest ROM Manager

A few tweaks for stability

Added Astro File Manager

NOTE: If you have updated the Market you should uninstall the update via the market or Settings > Applications > All > Market

YES, it is safe to flash this over v4.6 without a wipe but if you run into problems like FC's then do a wipe and reinstall
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
By "updated the Market" do you mean updated the Market under 4.6?

How would we know if it is updated or not?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Have you intentionally updated the market is the basic question. On way to check is look in /data/app and see if there is anything in there with vending in the name. Or look at your apps in the market and see if it is listed

It only matters if you are NOT doing a fresh install.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
no vending....

i looked in data/app and all i see are my non-Gapps apps
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
As long as you are on my v4.6 then just flash over no wipe
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ZeliardM:
Just a note...over in the Desire HD forum there has been a leak for the HD with Gingerbread and Sense 2.1...I know this is a Z ROM but it might be worth taking a look at...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks. Will take a look. Could be my next challenge
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Arkadiy_22:
bootlop with amons recowery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Are you on the latest Amon? I know he only applied all the fixes for Edify (CWM3) recently.

I only use CWM so I can't help much
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apsawyer65:
Hi Nils ... I see you are still working hard on this ROM. Keep it up. Looks great!!

Will the Blue Round Battery mod in Post #3 work with version 5?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yes it should.

EDIT: I added a CWMv3 version for 5.0 in post 3 just incase
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apsawyer65:
Thanks Nils. 4.0 worked although its green and not blue. :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
It's different colors at different battery levels.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Arkadiy_22:
yes i am using 1.8.1 amon recowery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jpradley:
CLockwork warning.

In the just revised Post # 1 of this thread, you still say you're producing seprarate downloads for use with CWM v2 or v3. Really?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Nope not really. Need to remove that now that most people are on CWM3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aostl:
Yay! Just saw this
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scarfoot:
I can't wait to give ver 5 a roll! This is great !!!

Thanks NILs!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Give it a run folks. Hope you enjoy it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Loaded v5.0 , no problems , running smooth.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
When I try to do an email or text the keyboard won't come up so I can imput words. Anyone had that problem. Will reflash.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Which keyboard are you using?

Try the other and see what happens
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
The reflash fixed it . Thanks.

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
About 8 hrs and v5.0 running fine.

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Great

I have been feeling good about v5. Been running on mine 4 days now without needing to reboot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
5.0 - imap / exchange accounts missing

I upgraded in place today using ROM Manager.

Everything seems to be working fine, podcasts and playlists were not were preserved.

The Accounts for my IMAP and exchange account were missing. Further, the regular Mail app is gone (not talking about Gmail)

Help....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Sounds like you are on CWM V2 and the install is for CWM V3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
No..... i am on 3.0.0.5
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
I reverted to my 4.6 backup until we can fix this...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
3.0.0.5 has a big bug and does note wipe data. got to 3.0.0.7 or 3.0.0.8
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Hey Nils! I'm downloading now because I'm thinking that your framework may be one of the least altered of the Z Roms. I'm going to give the emmc issue a run for its money. If I can get it working, I'll send u the fix and try to do the same for the other Z roms.

Another reason I'm starting with yours first is that you're just a great guy and a sharing dev. I'll let u know how it goes. It worked great for me on my AOSP rom.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Fantastic. I have been looking at that and been trying to get some work work out of the way and try to implement it. If you have success that would be great.

You are correct. Other than battery, cleanup and images my framework is pretty stock.

Yeah, I gotta lose that nice guy Image - HaHa
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Don't ever lose that image! You made me want to stop being an @sshole! Lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scarfoot:
5.0 is a very stable ROM. Keep up the great work, its very smooth. Your ROM/Dialer has the least amount of phantom calls of any of the ROMS.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks. I spent a lot of time modding and cleaning up the phone/dialer with hopes that it would help
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
3.0.0.7 , 3.0.0.8 ??

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
ClockWorkMod

.7 and .8 are available in ROM Manager
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Thanks

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Which is the best one to use ??

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
i think 7 is best for amoled displays but 8 I think is needed for SLED
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scarfoot:
I am still not convinced that 3.x clockworks are better. I have had 2 successful backups fail when trying to restore, its been a real challenge. I just wish they would have left a stable 2.x on ROM manager, I had no problems backing up and restoring with version 2. Ver 3.x (I am using 3.0.0.8) seems to have the least failures, but it still messes up.

I just hope they fix it good soon :)

-Sf-
[Droid Incredible Android Development] paintguy:
Power Settings in Status Bar

If anyone wants power settings in the status bar, there is a market app called Status Bar Settings. It is not as elegant as the built-in feature but it works.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
In ROM Manager, it is telling me that I have .5 and the latest is .5.

I could have sworn that I had .7 in Business Sense 4.5 and now on 4.6 -- I have .5

I could totally be wrong. But anyway, how can I get to .7 now??

Is it available under Flash alternate recoveries... the last menu item??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yes. last option in RM
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
OK -- I updated to .7 and installed 5.0 and bricked my Incredible.

Someone said previously that .8 was needed for an SLED model --- that is what I have.

I thought you could boot into Recovery by holding on Vol + after powering on.

That is not working for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
OK its volume down i get that.

However when i select Recovery and push Power to select.....it does NOT boot to recovery. phone is totally bricked?

Can I do Clockwork through UnREVOked on my Mac like I did the first time way back when in October?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
OK -- I fixed it. I got to the boot menu again and it asked me if I wanted to apply an update. I said yes. Then I got to Recovery, then I applied the backup I did before my failed install of 5.0
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
So do you think .8 will finally do the trick?

Is the 3rd time a charm?? :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
.8 should do the trick on SLED it just seems to be a little less consistent. Just make sure to select wipe data and cache in RM and you should be good.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
Would i still be able to restore apps from Titanium after i wiped and installed 5.0?

Will the stability issues in .8 be fixed in .9 or is now a good a time to upgrade as any??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Don't know if and when CWM .9 will come out so you may as well try .8.

If you restore apps do them one at a time to make sure they work OK. I would just restore the app and hold off on data if you are coming from a different ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
Ok -- I'm happy to report.

Business Sense Desire Z 5.0 is installed and running well on my Inc. 3rd time was a charm. I am running CWM .8. I did do a wipe and backup from 4.6 to get to 5.0.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
slightly off topic

#1 Since I am sure many of you Incredible owners have faced this... do you or don't you buy that $8 per month complete insurance from Verizon?

I'm thinking since my Inc. is rooted and using a custom ROM, they aren't going to support it anyway, so drop the insurance.

#2 I was able to use Titanium Backup to carry over my apps and data when I upgraded from Business Sense 4.6 to 5.0. GREAT.

However if I do a wipe and upgrade in the future, how can I preserve

Home screens?

Call logs?

SMS messages?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
If you go from 5.0 to 5.1 you don't need to do a wipe. I haven't done a wipe since 4.1.

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apsawyer65:
Not sure about all of these but, you can use the SMS Backup app to keep copies of your SMS Messages in your Gmail account. You can restore them when you like.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
It is my intention to not have to wipe if you are already on a version of Business Sense. Kind of why I am a little slow to add new features.

If a wipe is required I will boldly announce it

I prefer to reserve a "wipe" to fix problems
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Patch for pre-Gingerbread Malware Exposure in post #3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Version 5.1 in first post

It's finally here. The fix for mounting EMMC (Internal Storage) to PC and playing music on internal storage

Very special thanks to jermaine151 for making this happen. Make sure you thank him for his efforts and the time he took to make this work for us.

Version 5.1

* FIXED EMMC (Internal Storage) MOUNT TO PC AND MUSIC PLAYER - Special thanks to jermaine151 for making this happen

* Updated ROM Manager to 3.0.1.3

* Flash updated to 10.2

* Added Malware protection

NOTE Clear cache and dalvik in recovery if flashing over
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Glad I could help and keep my promise, Nils!

I hope everyone enjoy it!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Downliading now, will flash as soon as i head to the can. Thanks guys for your efforts!

Flash n flush gives new meaning to wipe everything!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Great. Let me know how you make out
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Running very smooth, will mount to pc when I get home. What kernel is it, I noticed it can't be ocd, though don't seem to matter, works very smooth. Great work!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
It is the stock kernel. Pretty stable so I stick with it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] terpsarlington:
power widgets

Nils,

1. can you please give the option of power widget in the pull down. I never understood why people want the recent apps, as you can just long press on home button.

2. Can you make the right button on the rosie so it can mapped to different apps

(camera, market, music player, etc.) This one is less important then number 1. The way i see it you can always long press on the screen and get to setup menu.

Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
I also like the pull down power settings. This runs rreally good on ziggys latest bfs with no havs ocd to 1.075. Not a single fc or reboot yet
[Droid Incredible Android Development] incubus26jc:
congrats on getting emmc funtioning guys!! That is very good news :) Jermaine, good work buddy.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] suprafreak1000:
Great job man!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Thanks Incubus!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
5.1 working fine , no problems.

Hope TBolt works this well Friday.

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Have you tested the PC and music internal mount?

I take it you are jumping ship coming Friday. Considering it myself but who knows.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Yes it all works.

I will keep the Inc as a backup but will have TBolt Friday. Let us know if you move to the TBolt so we can follow you and get a great TBolt rom. They have root on the pre- production TBolt so we should have root on the shipped TBolts pretty soon.

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Just in case everyone has not noticed there is something VERY significant that took place over the last 24 hours.

One common complaint by many individuals was that the developers do not seem to share.

Based on the fact that the Z ROM's now have the EMMC Internal Storage fix you can see that they do. To me this is a great improvement for the developers and the user community.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I am not ignoring you I just have not had the time or energy to try to add the power options in the pull down.

However, there is a really nice app in the Market called Status Bar settings by Karson that works very nice and has multiple choices for themes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scarfoot:
Great job Nils!

So far loving the new Rom, but I noticed that I can't attach newly taken pictures to a message. When I try gmail, it FCs.

When I go to the gallery, can't find new pics I have taken. Any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scarfoot:
Looks like I figured it out a workaround. The internal storage is not working with the camera. If I switch it to SD card, it works fine. No force closes on gmail attaching a photo/video. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Interesting. Something I never thought of testing. It appears the fix for everything else stops the camera from actually saving to internal. Before it would save to internal.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Check your PM. I think I found something.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcicu:
Has anyone here been able to use the Exchange Password Policy fix posted by klaus27 here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=655649 ?

Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I don't need it so I have not tried it. Have you tried it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scarfoot:
Glad I found that little bug --- is this something you'll be able to fix?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
We see the problem and working on the fix. So I think the answer is yes it will be fixed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heffe2001:
I was just coming in here to post about the camera problem, looks like you guys beat me to it, lol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcicu:
when i use it i get a FC each time i load the mail.apk
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cromanorn:
I've tried it and it didn't work. I really like your ROM but the security enforced on exchange by many company is overkill. I really would like to have my cake and eat it too.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chingy51o:
dude pics save to phone storage just phone on mine.. kinda weird.. haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
So, since you can save to the Phone Storage and view pics in the gallery I have to figure out what is different with my ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rcicu:
Love the ROM but Sense is getting random FCs