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[Nexus One General] r1enh:
+1 to that guy!
[Nexus One General] zerodi:
Oh, if your bootloader isnt Unlocked, cant you flash unreleased versions of android, ie upcoming gingerbread?

If i unlocked mine now, would i have to wipe and reflash my current Rom?

:confused:
[Nexus One General] Sistum Id:
I unlocked mine few days after buying mine in February. I just sent mine in a few weeks ago for dust under screen and got a replacement.

They won't reject the phones because they are unlocked. They will however, I believe; reject them if they are still rooted after you send them off to HTC repair center.

I do agree with not unlocking the phone since we have the one click root method.
[Nexus One General] Wiggz:
Can anyone give me 5 reasons why unlocking the bootloader should be done? I rooted my phone and can do pretty much everything I think that is needed.

I'm interested to know what else is being missed out on (I'm not being sarcastic, I'm honestly interested!)
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
The most valid reason: safer flashing of the radio.
[Nexus One General] inneyeseakay:
Nope, I sent mine to HTC Repair Center with CM6.1 on it. They sent me a fresh replacement, no additional charges for unlocked bootloader/3rd party ROM/misc scratches/etc...
[Nexus One General] lostinbeta:
When I spoke to HTC about this they said as long as they can flash what they need to flash IF they need to flash something, your warranty is fine. And an unlocked bootloader also makes it easier to return to stock unrooted if you need to send it in. My bootloader is still locked and it was a pain to get it back, but I feared if they had to flash something in the repair it would fail if I didn't revert. I'm contemplated unlocking the bootloader now just to make it easier.
[Nexus One General] msavic6:
My phone was bought in may so I still got a ton of time until then.
[Nexus One General] crachel:
People were up in arms over the G2's root issues, yet when HTC gives us 'fastboot oem unlock' there are still those that abuse it. But, if you're a power user, I get it, its kind of the spirit of XDA, just do something cause we can

But, the minimal (if any) benefit of root/locked has caused the boards as a whole problems because of the zillions of people that don't really understand what theyre doing and why, and then go threadsh*t the ROM or Recovery threads or whatever they think is causing the problem other than their inability to follow instructions.
[Nexus One General] deprecate:
I unlocked mine on day one then had to warranty it. HTC took care of me. I thought about simply unlocking the bootloader or taking the extra time to keep it locked and root the device.

I decided to retain my warranty the second time and leave it locked taking the extra steps. So I can't fastboot flash for a radio upgrade; I really do prefer that :)

There are ways around unlocking so why even play that game anymore. Back then though, fastboot oem unlock was our only option. Take the extra time/steps and keep your phone locked...it makes selling it easier.
[Nexus One General] pzumk:
Almost a year.. what the hell. I got mine on the 15th Jan. and unlocked it's bootloader a week later or something like that
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
1. Safer radio flashing

2. Flashing of zImages

3. Ease of recovery if your phone gets messed up, especially if the recovery partition gets messed up.

4. Full and proper use of Fastboot

5. Flash partitions in .img form without waiting around for somebody to make an update.zip

6. Super easy to flash a stock rom/boot/recovery so you can receive OTA updates if necessary

I've had it both ways (unlocked and root w/o unlock) and I went back to a proper unlocked boot. For me, that was one of the biggest selling points of the phone.
[Nexus One General] b1337:
well said! there is no point to not unlock it, ive never heard to this day of a warranty denied because the bootloader is unlocked, all im hearing from the haters is some weak scaredy cat excuses ;p ive warrantied my phone twice unlocked with cm no problems ever dont be a puss and wait lol
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
The only warranty denial cases I've heard were from abuse due to an unlocked bootloader. e.g. I overclocked to 1.4GHz@1700mV, smoke came pouring out, and those bastards at HTC wouldn't honor my warranty!!! :mad:

I've had my (admittedly finicky) Nexus sent in twice with an unlocked bootloader (non-abuse claims) and both times HTC was timely, courteous, and never said a thing about it.
[Nexus One General] maxawesome:
You can root without unlocking your bootloader. What are you waiting for? There's even a dedicated HOW TO thread in the development section.

I mean seriously....wtf...
[Nexus One General] b1337:
1.4 lol nice thats going for it!
[Nexus One General] daijizai:
I haven't bothered unlocking, not because of warranty woes, but because I didn't want to hard reset. This is the longest I have ever gone without a hard reset. Dought mine day 1.
[Nexus One General] cmstlist:
I just contacted my credit card's insurance department. For the extended warranty, it mirrors the conditions placed on my original warranty. Not that I can necessarily expect an insurance company to understand the meaning of an unlocked bootloader, but I think it'd still be prudent to nominally avoid breaking my original warranty. Judging by the two device swaps I did in year one, I do want to have that protection :)
[Nexus One General] izmar:
+1

Why not just NOT unlock the bootloader with 1clickroot...?

It's root without the bootloader needing to be unlocked... :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
This was something that bothered me. What I did is:

Root without unlock

Used flash_image too install a custom recovery

Took a Nandroid backup

Unlocked the bootloader

Restored Nandroid

Carried on as normal
[Nexus One General] mkrmec:
Because it's not the same, it was explained before. With a proper bootloader unlock you have many more options, safe radio update etc... you don't have that with that hacky root that doesn't touch the bootloader.
[Nexus One General] izmar:
Having had a Nexus with an unlocked bootloader before warranty exchanging it, it ends up being personal preference.

Personally, my life with my Nexus hasn't changed at all. I don't like dealing with ADB. It's too much work when I can just flash it. Yes -- There are the "risks", but the risks are far greater for someone who doesn't know how to use ADB properly as opposed to someone who can just flash something with one click.
[Nexus One General] ChongoDroid:
Never used adb in my life :) word to the badge of honor...

Sent from my Google Phone
[Nexus One General] YoMarK:
Many more options? The safe radio update (directly from your PC using fastboot) is about the only extra option :)

Not that it's more safe then flashing a radio(zipfile MD5 checked) through recovery though.

Since exploit root access is possible, it's stupid to unlock your bootloader. You're only getting your warranty voided.
[Nexus One General] musashiken:
Actually I read somewhere that fastboot flash is safer for radio updates because it will just cancel the install if there's any error. Recovery update will just install it anyway and mess up the phone... if there's an error.

But yeah if the MD5 is triple checked before flashing, should be safe either ways.
[Nexus One General] mlevin:
How so? "Legit" OTA updates flash the radio via update.zip. That's the "official" way that radio updates get out to the world. Surely that is safe, no?
[Nexus One General] efrant:
I'm just curious, here are two questions to those who are not unlocking for the sake of "not voiding" the warranty:

1) Have you seen/heard/overheard/read/talked-to/etc. anyone saying that HTC DID NOT honor the warranty on a Nexus One with an unlocked bootloader (since it is written in the HTC warrany that unlocking voids the warranty)?

2) Have you seen/heard/overheard/read/talked-to/etc. anyone saying that HTC DID honor the warranty on a Nexus One with an unlocked bootloader (despite the fact that it is written in the HTC warrany that unlocking voids the warranty)?
[Nexus One General] deprecate:
Mine was unlocked and mine was warrantied just fine. Less than a week total which included the phone call, shipping to them and rooting the phone when I got it back :)
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
I can't see how it is considered abuse. It is completely up to HTC as to whether they honour the warranty. If they choose to do so, it is not abuse
[Nexus One General] gravufo:
You guys are all thinking upside down...

Why mess with the fire? If you can keep your warranty through a method that barely takes more time, why not do it? In case you get some issue that can be partly related to software, you can easily tell them that you haven't unlocked/touched anything, so it's a faulty device and they HAVE to honor the warranty.

Those with unlocked bootloader that DID get their things replaced were probably from OBVIOUS hardware issues, but HTC does NOT have to honor your warranty since they could easily say you overclocked/overvolted resulting in physical damage to the device...

Fastboot does NOT give more options except for checking file integrity before flashing radio. If you are a knowledgeable person, you would check the MD5 hashes before flashing anyways, so that is a nonsense argument. The only advantage fastboot has is ease of use (and thus noob-proof method), but other than that, it's nothing major.

I've been using my phone with my locked bootloader since I got it this September and I have never had an issue flashing anything, whether it was a ROM, a radio or a recovery.
[Focus General] Dyskmaster:
Hi, I am hoping to get an ATT Samsung focus for christmas (If not, I might just buy it) and I was wondering if any of you have made this journey from windows mobile 6.whatever to phone 7 and if you have any advice for me. I have done my research on the new os and I have been following it since it's announcement in February, so I know how the system works, but maybe you could tell me some details about the phone its self that I might not know. My particular concern is moving from HTC (Who usually makes very good devices and software features for them) to Samsung (who I know makes the really good phone screens).

Any advice at all would help me out!
[Focus General] idloco:
I moved from the Pure to the Focus, so far. I'm loving my new device.. I have been a loyal HTC user since the Axim x51v.. The only thing that I miss is the navigation software, but I read that MS is going to update the bing maps with navigation.. also I miss the custom ringtones but again, something that is going to be fixed on the new update...

In a nutshell.. I'm in love with the samsung, the quality of the device is great, it feels well made and it's rock solid..

Also you could go to an Att store to check it out by yourself.. thats how I got a focus instead of a surround XD hehehe the focus is sexier XD
[Focus General] chizzwhizz:
Yea i moved from a HTC touch Pro 2 to the samsung focus and I feel like its one of the best decisions I've ever made. WP7 is a great OS and the focus is a beautiful phone...You will be happy with your choice
[Focus General] Tempest790:
I moved from the Touch Pro 2 (sister phone) and I love it as well. WP7 is so smooth and stable, I don't see myself going back to 6.x at all. Plus, we'll be seeing more features added by Microsoft over time so it will only get better. I'm sure WP7.1 will impress even more.

I was on the fence too, but I'm very happy with the Samsung Focus. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
[Focus General] rhart20:
I made the same move and am loving it. Just a couple things...

Be ready to use only the internal 8gb storage for stability sake. The sd card update has not been totally flushed out yet. Even so, I am running an 8gb Kingston Class 4 with no problems whatsoever for over two weeks (fingers crossed). But I see that being addressed sooner rather than later. If you need copy and paste, you should wait until early 2011 when the first update is released. If you need you PIM data to sync only through outlook (think activesync) and not through the cloud, wait and see if the update will add this feature. Some people are very particular about this. Also, if you need to connect to hidden wireless networks you should wait for the first update. It may or may not be included.

If none of these issues affect you, you are going to love the upgrade. Having the zune integrated is just awesome. I don't miss the task manager from my Pure. I usually spent most of my time shutting down apps rather than switching amongst them. Jumping back to an app I came from is simple and exactly how I use my phone. The OS is extremely smooth and fast. I would flash custom roms onto my pure to get WM6.5 to run fast but would always run into bugs which would need to be fixed. The screen size increase is the biggest improvement in my opinion. Typing on the Pure was usually pretty frustrating since the virtual keyboard buttons were so small. The Focus screen size makes typing a breeze. If you are willing to embrace the cloud, you will find the user experience to even better. I think you will be very happy with the change.
[Focus General] markgamber:
The Samsung is very nice and given my generally poor experiences with HTC in the past, it was an easy jump for me, especially since there were 2 1/2 years of iPhone between the Focus and the last HTC thing I owned.

The hardware will probably be secondary to the system. WP7 is NOT WM 6.5. It's not based on WM 6.5 and it may never be on par with WM 6.5 as far as features. And, in my opinion, that's not a bad thing. WM 6.5 was slow, unstable, clunky, and completely unusable if you lost the stylus. WP7 is pretty bare bones at the moment but it's very fast, smooth, stable and very finger friendly, all of which I value more than a huge list of features I rarely, if ever, used. Before you hope too much, go to an AT&T or someone that sells them and check it out. Check out settings, the applications included with the phone, the browser and the marketplace and get an idea if there's enough there to make it useful to you. I've seen a number of threads here and elsewhere from former WM 6.5 owners who are fuming over the lack of things like ICS and RDP, completely missing the point that WP7 is not meant to be a replacement for WM 6.5. These things may come in the future but don't buy a phone for what it might one day do, buy it for what it does now.
[Focus General] ghaith_d:
I've had a long history with WM. I had the Imate Jam, then the HTC Kaiser, then the HTC Touch Pro 2 (aka tilt) and now the Samsung Focus.

hardware wise, this thing is awesome! I've compared the screen to the HTC Surround, and it's seriously mind blowing. The hardware is rock solid, the only little thing is that it creeks a tiny little bit at the bottom of the back cover, but you will barely notice it. Love having Gorilla Glass so no need for stupid screen protectors.

Software wise, WP7 is amazing...I'm really glad Microsoft released it, and I'm hoping that the tiny issues will be resolved with the January update (which is said to be HUGE!!!!, one developer was quoted as saying "They might as well have called it WP8", so they must be bringing a lot of changes.

The only real things I miss are Navigation, and Custom ring-tones...other than that, I'm very very very happy and I don't miss anything. The only other thing is the storage capacity, apparently Microsoft is working on a patch for the whole MicroSD issue, so if reliable storage is important, then go with another phone, but I'm going to take the risk, and worst come to worst, I'll cut down my music to make it fit, because I love this phone that much
[Focus General] Dyskmaster:
wow, thx everyone for the info. I was already aware of the snappyness and awesomeness of Windows phone 7 but I am glad there are so many approvals of my device choice as well! I usually put in earphones for listening to music so I wouldn't really have much use for the HTC surround, and I don't need a phisical keyboard, so the LG quatrum was not for me.

I am very happy that I am not the only one making this jump to WP7.

(oh, and do you ever think that android will be ported to WP7. Is it possible?!)

PS, Can I make the windows phone 7 apps for free, or is that a 5 dollar fee?
[Focus General] markgamber:
As far as I know the tools to create applications are free but it'll cost $99 to access the marketplace, presumably for a year. Same as Apple & iPhone programs.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrpanic7:
hey just had a question if we install mods for themes or metamorphs whats the way we can use to remove them?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjlean:
Nan restore
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] copc:
I have updated this for all games and apps working for the gtab. I have only been running the TNT rom from robeet but this is what I have working so far.

From Post #9

installed as of 12-13-10

Working

Games

Angry Birds (And seasonal)

Chess

Hawx

Jewels

Live Hold em

Raging Thunder 2

Robo Defense Free

Solitare

Tank Recon 3d

Apps

App Brain

Blue GPS

Bluetooth File transfer

color note

Convert pad

Docs to go

dolphin broswer HD

Droid Rewards

Ebay

Evernote

Fancy Widget

Fe-Fi

Flickr Compainion

Google Translate

K-9 Mail

Keeper

Latitude

Movies

Navigation

Nook

pandora

Photoshop Express

Poweramp

Printer Share

Remote RDP Enterprise

Scanner Radio

Shazam

Speed Test

Google Talk

Titanium Backup

Uptime

VLC Free

Google Voice

White board

xpiano

yellowbook
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] jamesgf:
I did a search for a master games thread but found nothing so I thought I would reply here. I just picked mine up yesterday and have been looking for some games for it. Besides Angry Birds ive found that Krazy Kart v1.2.7 works perfectly (full screen, looks great!) with the touch screen controls, but tilt controls are way off. Anyone know of any others that work? I wanted to buy NOVA HD but without a phone number on the Gameloft website it seems not possible.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] theratdude64:
Are you saying that angry birds does work? When I did a market fix it finally showed up but failed install on me. Is that full screen?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] palmop:
Both Angry Birds and Angry Birds seasons work on mine, running TNT-Lite 2.2.1.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] boulwarek:
Angry Birds and Pocket God both work fullscreen. Pocket God starts upside down, but just have to flip the tab over. Screen looks better from that side anyways ;)
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] theratdude64:
It wasn't working for me before, but as of 5 minutes ago I got it working on VEGAn :)
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] copc:
I now have

Working

Raging Thunder 2

Hawx 3.2.8

Not working

Asphalt5 v3.2.2 (not full screena dn has has the 90 degree accelerator issue)
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] jamesgf:
Here are a couple more that work:

Tank Recon 3D

Touch Racing Nitro

Archer

Radiant HD
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] copc:
Ok here is a complete list for what I have working and installed as of 12-13-10

Working

Games

Angry Birds (And seasonal)

Chess

Hawx

Jewels

Live Hold em

Raging Thunder 2

Robo Defense Free

Solitare

Tank Recon 3d

Apps

App Brain

Blue GPS

Bluetooth File transfer

color note

Convert pad

Docs to go

dolphin broswer HD

Droid Rewards

Ebay

Evernote

Fancy Widget

Fe-Fi

Flickr Compainion

Google Translate

K-9 Mail

Keeper

Latitude

Movies

Navigation

Nook

pandora

Photoshop Express

Poweramp

Printer Share

Remote RDP Enterprise

Scanner Radio

Shazam

Speed Test

Google Talk

Titanium Backup

Uptime

VLC Free

Google Voice

White board

xpiano

yellowbook
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] beepoo83:
Could you upload. App brain for me?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] rickyt63:
Another working game:

Castle Warriors Ver 1.2 from GameResort.

- Full screen landscape.

- Very smooth.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Alpha06:
Hexage

http://www.hexage.net/

BUKA HD and Radiant HD work AWESOME.

Hi res graphics, super smooth (like 60fps+)
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] jamesgf:
Pool Break Pro works well, a few minor graphical glitches.

Is there a fix for the accelerometer being off 90 degrees on some games? I'm still running stock, rooted.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] DMerrill:
Hmm... It "works" for me, but doesn't draw correctly. The tower build stacks are drawn in the middle of the playfield, making it somewhat difficult to play.

Are you seeing something different? Oh, btw, I'm running VeganB3.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] copc:
I am seeing no problems on it. I'm running TNT 2.02 (I need to update, but I need to find time, LOL)
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] gotwillk:
did anyone get Live Holdem to work in fullscreen?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] WickedStyx:
Reckless Racing works well.

PacMan Championship Edition works and the controls aren't as awful as on a small screen.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Pazzu510:
games:

abduction

barrr

air control

pocket legends

cruzade of destiny

gem miner

space phisics

apps:

documents to go

thinking space

facebook

imo

speed test

opera mini

advanced task killer

and i wrote this from my opera mini
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] pulser_g2:
Thread stuck.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Skyydragon:
I have Heavy Gunner working for me, and it looks and plays awesome. Very smooth effects and great sound.

As far as apps go I'm testing more as I go, but Direct Tv and and DJ Studio both work as well.

I will post more working ones as I go.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] virgo wattson:
Hi, I installed An App Called "Gmob365" (A Chat App that Can be Found on The Market) and im having problems posting comments on my gtab, i thought it was a device id problem but after changing the id thru android id changer multiple times it still didnt fix the problem, i was wondering if anyone else had the same prob?
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] sjmoreno:
Riptide GP

It's one of the games in the TegraZone app and it's available in the market. Plays great on VEGAn 5.1.1 and. CyanogenMod 7.0.3. The graphics are fantastic.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] transitoyspace:
works

Games

Doodlejump

Riptide

Pinball HD

Monster Madness

Angrybirds Seasons

Nesoid

Apps

Pandora

poweramp

winamp

dropbox

firefox

meridian player

google music

netflix

Pluse reader

soundcloud

vplayer pro

Doesnt work

EA's Tetris

Rom: G-Harmony Gingerbread 2.3.4
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] kieso:
dungeon defenders

I just found it in the market. Its free but in game pay but I haven't paid yet. Graphics are good
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] mike_ekim:
galaxy on fire II

Tetra zone game, free to download but eventually you need to pay to unlock content. Space flight combat simular, nice graphics and gameplay plus a bit of story line thrown in. This game takes a loooooong time to download over wireless g. It ran good on 3588 with graphics settings maxed.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] dubletap:
Paper Toss and Crush the Castle from the Amazon App Store work perfectly on my GTab Vanilla AOSP Ginger Ed.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Legolas2:
Galaxy on Fire 2

Hi

Did any one try Galaxy on Fire 2 from the Market. I was able to load it on

my GTab running Vegan 5.1, but the frame rate is extremely slow.

(See a post earlier, but not sure the ROM being used)
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] sjmoreno:
I have it running on my CyanogenMod 7.0.3 gTab. It runs fine for me with one exception in which sometimes there is a chunk of the background that is black and remains black no matter from which angle you approach it but it's obviously something that is a certain dimension as it will change orientation as your view of the screen changes orientation.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] mike_ekim:
If you were talking about my post, 3588 = most recent (not pulled) stock Froyo ROM from Viewsonic.
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] Legolas2:
On VeganTab 5.1 I am unable to play this game. Maybe time to switch over to CM
[G Tablet Themes and Apps] dubletap:
Cut The Rope is Free for a week.

Works perfectly so far.

Vanilla AOSP