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[Droid Incredible Android Development] incubus26jc:
Everything is very smooth. Like you said it would be. No need to overclock.

Quadrant scores are lower than usual. Usually means it will have exellent battery life. Dont base a kernel on quadrant scores. If you want better battery life then you want your scores to be lower. I'm sure that overclocking will get you better scores but will decrease battery life. So if everything is running smooth for you, then dont overclock just to get better scores.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
think im gunna like this one lou!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kjott21:
I had better battery life with #4 than #5. I'm switching back now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cuzzinz:
I didn't really notice but I switched back to 4 cause my issue with the stutter in launcherpro and #5. #4 Works great for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ozzman54:
#5 has been great for me since I grabbed it a day ago. It hasn't been enough time to compare things like battery life, so I'm not even going to go there, but I'll just say it's been just as good as #4 so far. I usually give a kernel a solid 5 days before comparing battery life. There's just too many variables to measure something like that in 1 day of usage. It's also been smooth and I haven't noticed all this stuttering others are getting in Launcher Pro. It must be a very small amount of stutter or I'm just not noticing it.

Can't wait to see what you do with #6 Lou.

And BTW, I'm employed again, so you expect a holiday donation sometime soon :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] inittowinit:
I ended up switching back to #4 too. Just seems to run smoother and battery life was better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] serpentine009:
Just had my first random reboot....i think, ever. The only thing that I did different to day was flash lou's #4 from #5. I am on Lou's senseless.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mellephants:
Uhh, no MD5's :confused:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fbm111:
Issue I am having is it will freeze phone up (required battery pull) when I try to unlock the screen, not always but happened 3 times. Kernel was the only thing I have changed in days. Went back to stock kernel have not exp that problem again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] irod87:
What version were you running?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rockehill10:
chad0989 incredikernel has some of the lagging problems in his original kernels running BFS. When he upgraded them to CFS, the performance, meaning lagging, dimenished considerably.

I'm really torn between Lou's #4 2.6.32.17 and Chad's 2.6.32.26. Both are great kernels, run very smooth.

Chad's seems to run much faster even if not overclocked but reeks havoc on any battery status apps. Lou's may have slightly better battery life.

In my case my 3G signal is so poor that when I use it in my house, and go on to the internet, you can just watch the percentage drop like crazy. Neither kernel prevents it. If I turn off 3G and only use WIFI, it substantially decreases batter loss.

So many choses, so little time. Thanks to both Lou and Chad for alot of great work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rock28:
Is anyone able to underclock #4 using setCPU? I can't seem to alter the max speed, although it worked fine on other kernel's I've tried. I wanted to test underclocking to 844 MHz to see if it helps battery life without a substantial performance decrease.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JermsMalibu:
I haven't been able to get setcpu to work with #4 either so I just disabled it. I have found with previous kernels that the 844 speed is still plenty fast and that my battery seemed to last longer. Oh well, such is life, and I'm sure it'll get fixed eventually.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] billybob275:
Went back to #4 myself. Seems more stable and practically no lag. Trying it this time w/o SetCPU to see if battery life is any better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Lou already has a "screen off" profile setup with the kernel. I see little point in using setCPU unless you want to overclock. For battery life I think it's best to leave the kernel do it's job ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] HeyItsLou:
this is because I'm actually using the htc embedded performance options in the k e r n e l which is what perflock is performance lock . to underclock you must use set cpu to disable performance lock which will disable many of the performance increase is in the number 4 k e r n e l .
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JermsMalibu:
Sounds good Lou. Thanks for the update on what's going on. I don't know code and such so I don't know what's going on with these kernels. Keep up the good work. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] atmu:
I flashed kernel #4 and now my 3g is acting weird. I can't download off market or appbrain. Dolphin HD has no connection but stock browser works fine. Any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] atmu:
Nevermind! Market started working again. I uninstalled and reinstalled dolphin and appbrain. Both work now. Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
Based on what you just wrote, how do I go and renable the perflock? Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] HeyItsLou:
Just unchecked set.on boot in set CPU and reboot your phone
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
Thanks for the quick reply.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] HeyItsLou:
you got it buddy
[Droid Incredible Android Development] spence341:
Had a charging issue on BFS #5. Battery was hot, not charging as quick as usual. Switched back to #4 and all is well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] vwftw:
I just switched to #5. It seems great, but the modules (cifs, tun, ext4) don't work for me and no wireless-n...

I get an error of "Invalid module format" when I insmod any of the modules. This is my only issue so far with the kernel. It performs very well otherwise, and I would like to stick with this one if I can get modules that work!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kenmills78:
Kernal #5 rocks and is very stable. I have had a couple FC on some apps since loading. I did a reboot and fix permissions seems to have fixed the issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kenmills78:
Kernal 4 or 5?

Which kernal is getting better battery life? I am using #5 and it seems to be performing well but I want to make sure I am not missing out on better battery performance with #4. Thanks for any input.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bkrickles:
#4 has been better for me with senseless rom in all ways, #5 just felt different and not as smooth.

I never tried fix permissions and I don't know what that does exactly and when I should try it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonmilford:
I would be very interested to find out how to fix permissions as I am getting some FC's with some apps as well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
ROM Manager. Scroll down to the bottom. Reboot when it's done.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonmilford:
Thank you.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonmilford:
It says "An error occured while attempting to run privileged commands!" when I try to fix permissions.

Any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wylie1973:
If you are running one of Lou's ROMs, ROM Manager's Fix Permissions doesn't work properly. He includes GScript light with his ROMs. In GScript, load a script and choose fix permissions, then run it.

Or, you can go into terminal emulator and run:

su

fix_permissions
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jasonmilford:
Thanks for the help. Took the emulator option and rebooted. Trying to fix fc I am getting when I select folders in exchange email account. Thought this would fix it but no luck.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
My bad. I haven't had to run that since I've been on Lou's kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] i5aac:
i, too, am unable to fix permissions. i wanted to run a routine TitaniumBackup and was denied. It turns out that Busy Box can't get permission. opened Terminal Emulator and typed SU <enter> and was denied.

I posted this issue originally in the "senseless 1.0" thread but it appears that it may be a Kernal issue???

can anyone else verify this? and if so, does simply switching the kernal to something else fix the problem?

thanks...

[Edit] i just ran unrevoked again, and now i have su...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fsjr2010:
Hey Lou, thanks for the great work. HTC Incredible with SLCD here.

Reporting that I just threw IncROM on my phone today, and tried out your #5 kernel. Very high battery consumption and Android System taking up over 50% of my battery. Tried it for about 4 hours before going to your #4 kernel. In less than an hour, I noticed much lower power consumption from Android System.

The battery has held at 96% for over 30 minutes now.

I have not changed any settings from when I was running kernel #5.

I have timers set to ring every 30 minutes so that I check battery usage. Otherwise, I am going through "normal usage" (checking the phone only when I get an email, gvoice sms, or gtalk im notification). I am using only 3g and no WiFi. Bluetooth is disabled.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] MustacheFart10:
Running IncROM with this kernel and when I do a normal reboot angry birds shortcut link does not work and not available in the menu but market still recognizes it as installed...anyone else with this issue?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parkson:
Assuming you have it installed to SD, move app to PHONE via menu > settings > applications > manage
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Squale:
Best Kernel for IncRom

Are most finding that this combo (IncRom and Lou's kernel #4) gets the best battery life with decent speed?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] elrui:
IncRom with Lou's or Chad's kernel has amazing battery life. It was my daily driver for a pretty good while. Experimenting with a few others while he cleans up his 1.0. I am sure once he finishes that I will switch back as the battery life is tough to beat
[Droid Incredible Android Development] CUBENSIS:
bluetooth connectivity

I've got stock ROM 2.2 (build 2.6.32.26). Had incredikernel 11/28 running and switched to HeyItsLou #4, then #5. With both, bluetooth connections to my car would fail 90% of the time. The 10% of the time it connected, it would eventually drop the connection. Switched back to incredikernel and bluetooth connectivity problems went away.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Squale:
Best Kernel for IncRom

Thanks for your input. Any others experiencing this? Or having any other problems?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Kjott21:
No issues with Bluetooth for me. No issues with anything for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
I am not experiencing any Bluetooth issues with the #4 kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Docarut:
@Cubensis-I had problem with bluetooth connecting with one of my cars. I downloaded Bluetooth Fix Repair from Market and ran app. This solved bluetooth problems for me.

Doc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] odmejia:
Question.. Is SetCpu not needed for this kernel?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dimebagdan65:
By "normal" reboot do you mean manually turning the phone off and turning it on again? Otherwise, any reboot is a software mod that may have an unfound error

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
Based on an earlier posting from Lou, the kernel is better without SetCPU and particularly it is better to not disable Perflock because it then defeats some of the features of the kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] odmejia:
Alright.. another question are both links of #5 needed to flash or are they both the same? I download both but read the same file name.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
Stupid question, but can I flash this if I'm using Skyraider 3.5? I haven't found anything saying I can't... and I've read about other kernels, sparce as the information is, and haven't found a whole lot in the way of "x kernel can only be paired with y ROM".
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jprow507:
Yes it will work fine with any Sense based ROM .....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parkson:
SR 3.5 is sense, I believe, so your answer is yes, as this is a sense kernel thread
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
Thanks! I knew it was a Sense kernel, I just didn't know if it was all good to be flashed or if I needed additional requirements. Just download and flash, by the looks of it...and does wiping Dalvik-cache do anything to my apps/data? I've never had to do it so far...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
Another question (and sorry for double post), but if I run into a problem with this kernel, for any reason, is there a place I can revert to the stock kernel (that came with SkyRaider)? Or do I just want to do a full backup and that will save my current kernel accordingly? I'm trying to figure out if ROMs and kernels save differently when a backup is performed...thanks in advance!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ptsmith24:
Nandroid should backup everything. Sometimes the original post for a rom says what kernel is included. You can flash it that way, also. There's a thread in this forum that links to inc kernels.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parkson:
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[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
Also, I rename the file to update.zip, just like themes, other mods, etc., right? Or is there some special installation process I didn't see in the kernels thread?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
Nevermind (sorry for double post again), I already did a Nandroid and flashed the kernel. Seems to run okay (for some reason when I plugged my phone into my computer I got a stream of force-closes of .acore, but when I took it out it was okay). Will check tomorrow morning/afternoon. If I had my battery not at 100% at the time of flashing, will that affect the results with the kernel? And what is a good time window to see any positive/negative effects of a kernel?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ptsmith24:
I never rename the file. In clockwork, you can choose to install zip from sd. If you're messing around in hboot, I wanna say that isn't the case, however.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] odmejia:
Do I have to flash both files for #5?? I just flashed the first file (BFS) and not the mirror?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] espmetalhead:
A mirror is just an alternate hosting site.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] switch81:
Has anyone done a comparison of this kernel to hydrakernel?

I'm kind of new and I am at a loss as to what is the difference between the two. Both seem to underclock, but Hydra's also seem to undervolt.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TriJoe:
I tried one of Hydra's kernels before I tried Lou's #4. It was very stable, no problems at all, but I didn't see the battery performance with the Hydra that I have with Lou's #4. I tried the Stock Undervolted #5. Have been running Lou's #4 since it came out, no problems, it's smooth, no lags, I don't have any reason to look for another kernel. Just my opinion....for what it's worth.....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] androidtrkdr:
I'm running "Skyraider 3.5" with "HeyItsLou Custom Sense Kernel #5", and am having really good results with up time.

Before that I tried running "Chad's Incredikernel" and had a ton of force closes, restored a nandroid back up then flashed Lou's #5 kernel and haven't had any problems yet, and don't thing I will.

No, I don't see how your battery not being 100% could affect the results of a flash, as long as your doing everything right. When I flashed the last kernel I wiped my dalvik-cache, it didn't affect my apps or anything.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] switch81:
That's what I'm trying right now... I was on Hydra's kernel without any problems at all, and using juice defender which kept my phone in standby very well (I can go a over a full day with moderate usage).

I've been reading that some people have been getting 2 days of standby with moderate usage with Lou's #4, so I'm trying it out. So far so good.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] odmejia:
Thank you for the help sir
[Droid Incredible Android Development] odmejia:
Thank you sir
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hachamacha:
modules not being correctly applied?

Hi,

I've got no real way to judge the kernel other than after a dalvik wipe, and an install of #4, that I realized the modules aren't being applied in /system/lib/modules/*.ko (or at least not on mine).

What's kind of interesting is that I can perhaps see an error that "might" explain it, but not certain. In an attempt to make and end-run around the problem, I extracted the 4 modules ext4.ko, cifs.ko, tun.ko,etc etc, from the #4 zip file, and mounted system rw, then copied the files and set permissions as should be in the /system/lib/modules folder.

That actually gave me an 'out of space' error, because that folder is mounted separately, and only has 2M free space. The modules add up to 4-5M.

Is this perhaps an error in the .zip file that #4 is housed in, where the manifest isn't giving the right directions to how to install itself?

Also: Have any of you gotten all the modules to work? If so, could you tell me exactly how you installed the kernel (so far, just #4 - thanks)

I realize the kernel sans modules works fine, but it's not of much use to me without wireless and tun & cifs.

Thanks very much for any help,

Hashi
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hachamacha:
Just realized something about free space on /system

Probably is bad form to post right after the last post which is mine too ;),

But::

This is something I just found while in adb shell:

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I'm very used to linux, but not so used to the limited busybox variants of the commands like df without qualifiers, but I take the above to mean that there is ~5.7 M free space in /system.

If that's so, then Lou's modules cifs + tun + whatever add up to more than that especially if you already had modules in there (but I hope they would be wiped first).

I'm wondering if this is a 'reasonable' amount of free space. It's not like I've installed anything special in /system (well, nothing really), but a kernel has to use the /system/lib/modules dir so it could be messing up on the 2 other people I've noticed in the thread that have modules not-loading problems.

If this makes sense, then going to /data, creating /data/modules, and putting them there maybe makes more sense, but a link would have to be made (if we can cross-link file systems ) from /system/lib/modules/ to /data/modules/ like:

# ln -s /data/modules/cifs.ko /system/lib/modules/cifs.ko

(along those lines) -- I will test that.

(later on) :: I tested soft-linking across partitions and it worked OK. So now the space hit occurs in /data (or /data/modules/ to be exact) and only links to the modules exist in /system/lib/modules. This involves a little bit of juggling .ko modules , linking etc, but it's a workaround.

Thanks for any help in understanding this:

Hashi

(a day later) : So just to follow up on my own nutty theory, which was right for me but might not be a problem for everyone:

I took a look at /system via df on my droid 1, and realized there was plenty of free space (like 30 mb). Since there was only 5 on my Dinc, I realized I didn't like or use 'sense' and got rid of it all using a) Titanium to freeze/test, then b) adb to delete all of the /system/app junk that I don't care about. This got me up to 30-40mb free and now the modules have room to swim in.

-- remounted read-only & tried the kernel, no problems. I guess those Dinc come packed full to the brim with .. stuff.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] odmejia:
What I have noticed is that the new kernel is great on my phone when I don't use it. But as soon as I start putting it to work like getting on here or something internet related like mail, it drains like crazy? Is this happening to anyone. Just from me waking it up and posting here my battery went from 40-38-33.. anyone having this issue? Now its in 32 :(

Edit: maybe my 3g is just not that great when at work plugged my phone in to charge a bit and it was at 42 now 39 and its been like almost an hour since have unplugged it and I have been Texting, checked my fb and now on here. Maybe o found my problem. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] winston856:
I've noticed this too, browsing on 3G seems to drain the battery like a 700HP car drains it's fuel tank. While keeping the screen off keeps the battery meter inching down like a slug.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rockehill10:
I am certainly convinced it is related to 3G reception. If I use wifi in my house and go on the internet, the battery discharge rate is considerably lower than if I use 3G. I generally leave my 3G off since I don't use the phone for email, only text messaging. I know in my area, my phone reception is poor so I use a network expander from Verizon, but regrettably this has no effect on 3G.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] odmejia:
Yes its def because of the poor 3G reception.. at work I turn it off and I go through the whole day just fine. Once out of work I turn it on and works great. WiFi def helps as well..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] smilesuhas:
phone keeps on rebooting quite often....never used to hapen before#5
[Droid Incredible Android Development] odmejia:
Try #4 it works great
[Droid Incredible Android Development] winston856:
We need to define poor reception, I get 1-3 bars at work. I'm currently sitting at 2 bars in my desk area. Depending on where I am in the building it'll be 2-3. I would think poor would be 0-1 bar.

Even with 3G on the battery drops still fairly quickly, I think it might be the BFS scheduler in the #5 kernel. I'm going to let it run again today from a full charge and see how it does.

Lou's #4 and chad's 12/13-2 seem to be close matches.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rockehill10:
I'm talking out of my league here, but I don't think the bars on the phone relate to the signal level of 3G (data). I think the bars are about phone signal only.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] douger1957:
And a not very too terribly reliable indication of phone signal strength, either.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] neur0tk:
new to the whole android scene... just got my dInc on saturday... rooted it and running redemption v 2.2 on it! thinking about trying out one of your kernels now :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbdan:
Welcome here! The kernels are both great although I do favor #4.. have fun!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] General Crespin:
I've also noticed some microstuttering with #5 in LauncherPro that doesn't appear in #4. I couldn't swear it's not a placebo effect, but I'm pretty sure.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dbrits:
This is my first time playing with kernels, and I just flashed #4. I've had such a fantastic experience with Redemption ROM that it was only natural to try one of Lou's kernels. If I can squeeze some additional battery life out of my phone, that will be brilliant.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wljohnson05:
Been trying #5 for a few days...not liking it though, seems slower and have been getting a sense force close a lot. Along with losing gps signal frequently. Gonna check out #4 now and see if that works better in the next few days.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wljohnson05:
Ok, just flashed #4 on. First impression is good. Smooth and snappy. Hopefully this one works out for me better than #5. Thanks for all you're hard work Lou!