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[Nexus One General] iconexus:
Quick question for every one complaining about battery life -

Have you ever tried reseting the battery stats from recovery mode?..

I've had battery issues only when switching/updating ROMS.. the solution was reseting the battery data, giving it a full night charge - and back to ~24 hours uptime.

Also, don't forget to turn of your 3g when not in use - I only have it on when I'm actually surfing and not when it's idling in my pocket.

SetCPU - I have a "when screen off" mode - who needs the phone to be draining when it's not even in use?

Hope this helps you guys
[Nexus One General] ChongoDroid:
Undervolted wm kernel, miuimod 1.9.1

Drain the battery til "powering off" message plug into charger during message charge powered off for 6 - 8 hours. Now enjoy 18 hours of heavy usage without that behemoth case.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Oh, so now you know what features I need? Maybe I need GPS, Bluetooth, etc.. on all the time. I got an idea, why don't you let ME decide what I need and don't need running on my device. Thx :D
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Yes I've wiped battery stats from recovery many times. I also use setcpu: I have it underclock my device at 245 when screen is off.

I personally have had battery issues since day one and have tried every setting except turning off data. That does indeed make my battery last a LONG time but I need data 24/7. I also need 3G 24/7 as turning it on and off is a pain when I'm on a call and cannot get data(AT&T). with 3G I can be on the phone and get data as well. Still, you make good suggestions that everyone should at least give a shot. .:)
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Thanks man :D I never knew suggesting a battery was going to get so many people's panties in a wad :D:D
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Hahaha, thanks for the lesson on base 2.... I so totally needed that. :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] :
The point of posting threads at xda is to help others or to get help (Rule 10.) If you just want to gloat how an extended battery helps just YOU, then this is a huge waste of space pointing out a very obvious solution or blatant advertising. If you want to help others, then you should be able to see how OTHERS would like to use their phone and NOT complain or judge how others use their phones. Since you can't seem to keep an open mind on how others use their phone, it shouldn't be hard to guess that you are working for and actively advertising for Mugen (Rule 11)
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Ha :D I had a feeling you were just looking to argue. The whole point of this thread was to tell folks what helped ME, so it might help SOMEONE ELSE..is that so hard to understand?

I have enough of a posting history here to not be concerned with folks thinking I'm pushing Mugen, or any other manufacturer, so on that point I don't care what you think. :) Plus, I'm not the one with the "please donate to me" link in my sig..or the name of some website you want to get traffic for and using XDA's traffic to try and get it.:rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] :
earlyberd is posting what helped HIM and what could help with SOMEONE ELSE. you cant seem to process that. Just because his way conflicts with yours is no reason to ***** him out.

1. XDA allows donations. thats not advertising.

2. That website does NOT compete with XDA, nor does it advertise a product, nor does it require registration. It is well within the rules.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
What, are you earlyberd's wife or something?? :D He didn't seem to have any issues with my post but you seem obsessed. I didn't ***** anyone out(imo) the fact that you have a different opinion on that is your issue, not mine.

and I never said your sig is against the rules, I just mentioned the fact that YOU are the one requesting monetary return for your help, not me. You are the one trying to drive traffic to a site in your sig, not me. So, the only one here looking to make money off their posts is you, not me. Myself? I have a job that pays very well and don't need to beg for money on a tech site, nor do I need to push a product for some manufacturer for monetary return, again, because I already make a nice living. This is a hobby for me...not a money making scheme. :)
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
It's going to be another 24 hours or so before I can update this thread. It's taking longer than I thought to cycle this batter due to it lasting longer than I thought it would. I've been off AC power since 11am and I am at 88% power. I have streamed an hour of Slacker at the gym and made phone calls and got maybe 25 emails. Surfed using the XDA Android app and used a little Skyfire. When I put it on AC last night, I put one of my stock batteries back in and it drained 10% in less than an hour, without my even barely using it. I am more and more coming to the conclusion that the Mugen is just a properly working battery and that my previous three(2 stock and one Seido) are just defective. There is no way that it could drain that fast and be working properly.

it may even be my fault that they are defective for having run them down to 0% at times. So I do not want to cast aspersions on any other battery manufacturers. Whether they be HTC or Seido...I have always had good experiences with both companies with cases, car docks, etc.. I bought lots of Seido batteries when I owned Blackberrries and they always worked great.
[Nexus One General] :
its seems as though you dont understand the concept of donations. no one cares how much you rake in on your street corner.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Yeah I know what donation means...bums ask for them :D

I have no problem paying for services like themes and software, or making donations for someone actually providing something, but asking for a donation for help or advice is just begging for money in my book. You must be hard up to feel the need:)
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Here is what I have so far:

the first part of the graph is the stock battery showing 8 hours before it almost died, the second part is the Mugen. As you can see I'm getting much more than double battery life. Take into account however that there were two times I needed to disable my device for personal reasons while the Mugen was in. I also disabled several times during the stock battery but it is much harder to see given how fast it was draining in the first place. So when you figure that in it is Stock battery at 8 hours from 100% to ~ 30%, and Mugen 16(subtracting the nearly 12 hours I had it disabled) hours from 100% until currently as of this post 42%...a huge difference. I plan on graphing these with no breaks in device service after one more cycle. I also messed up and plugged in my Nexus to move some music from my PC and that erased my total time unplugged from AC. Anyway here is some info for those interested:

At any rate, you can see how much faster the power drops with that particular stock battery. I may also graph the other stock and the Seido just for the heck of it.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Also, I know it's hard to truly get an idea of what is happening without knowing my exact usage habits. All I can tell you is that I purposely used the stock battery less and it STILL drained unbelievably. By my calculations, I am getting ~3 hours per ten percent of battery life, to the stock battery at ~60 minutes per ten percent of battery life. Quite a difference, but again I cannot promise the same for anyone else. Also, if your stock battery is getting you more life than I am getting, you won't even notice the difference that I am with the 3200.
[Nexus One General] :
i actually make themes and scripts for people to use....so good point. dont forget to give all the devs and themers on here a big FU for begging on these boards
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
I DON'T CARE what you do :D You're the one seeking me and my thread out, not the other way around. I take care of the developers whose products I use(and are actually worth using). :)
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
LOL...I'll admit it's half my fault. I'll stop responding.:)
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Screenshot of battery use page also showing how long it has been off power and amount of battery life used, and life left. I used Google Nav a BUNCH this day as well, which normally burns right thru battery but not anymore:

I used my Nexus moderate/heavy this day, anytime I wanted, and for me, battery life is not even a thought anymore. :)
[Nexus One General] siddharthsai:
My battery lasts for 2 days and 6 hours on normal use and 18-19Hrs on heavy Wifi + Maps + Angry Birds ;)

Rom - Stock 2.2.1 FRG83D

Bootloader locked

Complete Stock :) , been a 6 months now..no issues

2 apps that drain battery like crazy

- Engadget

- Maps

Make sure you don;t have these running and you'll be just fine!!

PS : I'm waiting for official gingerbread , so not unlocking now..
[Nexus One General] ChongoDroid:
That's blasphemy
[Nexus One General] beatmania82:
Thanks for the info. I just brought the battery online. can't wait for it to come.

My experience, I also have tried some tricks to save battery, but it doesn't do much as well. The only way for me to save alot of battery is to turn off 3g data and not sync anything in calendar/contacts/mails, don't play too much games or browsing internet. or i can say "dont let your screen turn on" then that save a lot of battery. In that way of use, you dont need to get a smart phone!!!
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
No problem and I hope you get the same results I have gotten :)
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
also I see you mention disabling data to save battery. Sometimes when I'm in a meeting at work, or at the movies, etc.., I use juicedefender from the market(free version works great)

it has a setting for disabling data when the screen is off. This way I save LOTS of battery when I cannot be on my device or get alerts anyway. When you wake the screen, emails, gmails...any alerts you received, will come streaming in. I've found it very helpful. I even use it when sleeping sometimes so I don't end up having the trackball flashing all kinds of colors for eight hours while I'm crashed out...that tends to drain some battery. :)

Like you I do not like turning off features by default so this is a great way to disable a feature temporarily and conveniently and save battery too. :)
[Nexus One General] BiTXBoi:
Juice Defender is great, but from my personal experience, it messed up my data settings or something, and then when I disabled Juice Defender, data stopped working properly and had a tendency to sleep and not wake up when it should have
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Man that would suck..I haven't experienced that yet.

If it makes you feel any better I've recently developed the Nexus One "screen goes crazy" issue. Used to happen MAYBE once a week... now it's happening several times a freaking day. About to drive me nuts. I think I may have a rogue app causing it. I can resolve it by letting the screen time-out, but still.
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
everyone in this thread should post the dumpreg values from their battery chip, which is explained in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=765609&goto=newpost

while you're at it you can use our app in that thread to perform a learn cycle if you want. but also it would be great to see the dumpreg from each extended battery so we can compare and see how they are configured from the different manufacturers...
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
When I have some time I may give that a shot but to be perfectly honest, a lot of that stuff reads over my head.:o

plus this is the first time Ive ever gotten good battery life and afraid to go messing with things:D
[Nexus One General] bahathir:
I am using N1 for almost a year with stock battery and fw, and my own compiled kernel with under voltage and extra 21B RAM patches.

With light use, I got about 20 to 24 hours of battery life. It able to achieve 36 hours of battery life during very light usage.

Here are few strategies for better battery consumption.

1. Use black as much as possible. The brighter and whiter, battery drains much quicker.

2. No live wallpaper. It still use system resources.

3. Set governor to "conservative" and if possible set max cpu speed to 600 MHz

4. Check for any hanged application. It might consuming 100% of cpu load without our notice.

Tq
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Nice job! even with those tips, it still takes me an extended battery to get those kinds of results. :D

#4, the hanging application I find to be the worst offender. after I install or update an app, I always keep an eye on things with Spare Parts to make sure nothing is keeping the device from sleeping.

Just recently I caught the latest WeatherBug Elite update causing this to happen. I haven't seen anyone else complain about it but even if I uninstall and reinstall the latest version, inevitably, it starts keeping my Nexus awake. I finally gave up and went back to the previous version I had (luckily) backed up before I updated.
[Nexus One General] bahathir:
Eventhough I got 36 hours for very lightly usage, but, I only got at most 5 hours, when I was playing Angry Birds. Angry Birds really make me angry :)...

Sometime we need to sacrifice something to achive what we want. In this case. my N1 looks soo simple or dull, but who cares, I still enable all the nifty eye candies when I meet someone bragging about their iPhone :)
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
fair enough you dont have to do the calibration. but i would still recommend everyone with an aftermarket battery at least pull the dumpreg to see how your battery is set up, each register value. because we have been tracking the aftermarket batteries, and about 50% of the time, the battery is programmed incorrectly out of the box in such a way that the full point is set to that of a stock battery.

so for example this means that your extended battery only gets the same capacity as a stock batt, then shuts down. we had one guy with a 3400 battery, but after it burned thru 1400mAh it shut down because his full40 value was set wrong. seems about half the time this happens, and its typically only with the cheaper batteries. mugen and seido seem to do it right (though not always!), where the no names have the wrong values.

pullling your dumpreg is a read only thing, no worry about screwing things up;).
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
okay when I go here: http://jonrichards.net/xda/battery_calibrator/

which zip do I download and install(Nexus One on CM6.1 stable)? Thanks!
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
The file names are the dates, so download the newest one from yesterday I think it was.

The critical thing for you guys to check is your full40 value. That is what tells the OS to use as your full point for e full charge. We've seen so many extended batteries with a wrong value of 1452mAh, which is stock value. This artificially limits your battery because once that goes to zero thru the day of using your phone, zero causes shut down, even though if it were say a 2400mAh battery then all that extra mAh was not used.

Also we have experimented with lowering the empty volt from 3.416volts to 3.201 or even lower to extend the battery range. Similarly we have lowered the min charge current from <80mA to <20mA which squeezes a little extra into the top end, as well as gives your full point voltage a little boost usually from 4.15 volts to around 4.187volts.

So check your full40 and make sure you're all good:-).

I actually just today got my new 1600 battery, and full40 was set to 1452. So I only get 1452mAh of usable capacity. I had to change it to 1652mAh to get the full range.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Okay Roger I downloaded the zip from 3-12-2010 because the most recent one said "battery calibrator" and I wasn't sure if that was the right one since "battery app" sounded better and less complicated :) Anyway, rather than try and guess what info you need I went ahead and just took a screenshot:

This is the Mugen 3200 aftermarket extended battery for the Nexus One

This is a really nice looking app Roger thanks for it! If you want me to post this info in that other thread just let me know. Also, if you see something amiss maybe you can tell me and maybe explain how I can fix it....or if you need more screens or values etc...just let me know what I can do for you:):) This way of doing things might help me and other noobs get our batteries working as good as you more experienced members.:):) Thanks for any insight you can provide! I'd like to tweak and calibrate mine too but don't want to screw anything up either :D
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
we just changed the name to calibrator, so no worries its the same thing, just an enhanced version. the one you grabbed is kinda outdated with less info displayed. however your full40 value looks correct so you are at least good on that. its like my pet peeve seeing so many people with incorrect full40 registers. its a huge error to have!

anyway if you lateer decide to start trying to extend your battery life, join the thread or post any questions. your values look decent from the few i see in the screenshot (i'd get the new app version to see more though). your empty volt is 3.006 which we rarely see, and means your getting a good full range out of it. i'd bet you have a good mugen or seido battery from those settings.

get the newest version, and post your dumpreg from the last tab if you dont mind.

EDIT: oh you could change your battery age from 94% to 100% at some point. of course a full learn cycle would tell your exact age. but 100% could give you a little extra capacity...
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Thanks Roger! I just downloaded the latest version...that was a quick upgrade to an app :D Love the splash screen and icon!! Thanks for this app man! Not sure I want to mess with getting it to 100% just yet...I've not gone below 30% yet in normal use before I go back on power anyway so not sure that little extra would even matter. Anyway here is a screen of the dumpreg page you requested, hope it helps you. This is the Mugen 3200mAh extended Nexus One battery:
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
thanks man, mugen definitely is the best manufacturer from everything we've seen with our app so far. they are the one who always programs correctly. even seido is the next best, but sometimes they have wrong values. rarely though.

how about the first tab screenshot with the newer app, curious about your aged capacity value. mind posting it again? btw thanks:).
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
No need to thank me, you're the one who made this cool app and gave me something cool to play with tonight:D and let me know my battery is working as it should:):) Here is the first tab again with the latest battery app version. The very top got cut off. The part that got cut off says "battery Status Register 0x07"...okay here is the screen of the rest that didn't get cut off...hope it helps you out:
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
cool thx. interesting your aged capa is set a bit below full40. good stuff thx...
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Is that bad or have any big effect on battery life?
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
No its good. It's the first time I've seen it correct other than stock battery. That register doesn't effect battery life, it only has to do with the age register. Nothing much to worry about.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
ok cool you had me worried there for a second. :D Next time I have the Mugen out of my Nexus I'll pop in the Seido 1600 and stock HTC batteries that I have. Those drain like CRAZY so I wouldn't be surprised if we see something amiss..might even be able to get them working better via your application. When I do I'll post them in your thread with a link here for context.

Anyway thanks again man for the insight and application to play with. :)

Have a good one!!
[Nexus One General] RogerPodacter:
No problem:-). Just for clarity, all these batteries have a hidden learn cycle inside the battery chip. Our app just activates this function, and it is only needed if your battery turns off early like at 10% or whatever.

But we also made driver changes so that you can read or write to any register in your battery chip, which is now in cyanogen and pershoots kernel. We'll be expanding the app to easily set some of these important registers so it goes beyond just doing the learn cycle. Kinda like a whole battery utility in a way. Later on.

Till then, the manual way to change registers is using setreg in your battery folder.
[Nexus One General] Old MuckenMire:
Okay I'll be looking forward to that. One of the batteries, cannot remember which, likes to shut down almost immediately after I get the notice that it is at 15%....it makes that alert sound and then shuts off. I One of these days I'll have to check it with your app and see what's going on.
[Off-topic] frigid:
Any of you guys skate located north of denver? Next week is lafeyets grand opening.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zul8er:
I have had my Vibrant for 2 months. Its rooted, but left the stock rom, kernal, and recovery. Just wanted a wifi tether and the ability to remove bloatware. Is it safe to do Kies updates? I have received the GPS OTA (JI6). Is there anything after that?
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] whgarner:
android commander works with nc, was able to install and uninstall apps, pull & & push files.

still needed to chmod the hosts file in terminal to get adfree working, would not delete otherwise had to replace.

http://androidcommander.com/

p.s. i am in no way related or beholding to the developer, i just like it. works in 64bit unlike droid explorer.

b.g.
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] gormly:
Nice try, androidcommander developer... :D
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] whgarner:
whatever

bg
[Nook Color Themes and Apps] dwcasey:
Wow, slick tool. Never heard of it before. I've use Droid Explorer before on my android phone and it's 'ok', will have to give this a try.
[EVO 4G General] Gthirty7s:
so i just got 4G in nyc getting about 9-11mbps wich im very happy with

but every time i tether to my laptop or ipod touch im only getting 3g speeds

any way to make it get 4G?

btw im a root user.
[EVO 4G General] sitlet:
It would really help if you told us HOW you tether. USB, wifi tether, sprint's wifi hotspot?
[EVO 4G General] Gthirty7s:
wifi tether.
[EVO 4G General] locknes101:
What do u mean just? 4gs been out since Nov 1st. N I only ask cuz mine has been spotty since then. I live in jersey city. I should be getting ur speeds but I'm not. =\

Also, how do u check ur speeds? Speedtest app from market?
[EVO 4G General] cburon:
Check the following threads. People experienced similar issues and there is a fix that worked for some.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=795481&highlight=fixroute

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=800530&highlight=fixroute
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swaser18t:
Is there a place that lists all kernels? Or where can I download stock kernels too? Sorry for the noob question
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phajen:
Check the kernel benchmarking link in my sig, go to his page, and go to the downloads section
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swaser18t:
Can't see your signature from the xda app
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phajen:
Whoops, sorry. http://home.comcast.net/~ttechnology/downloads.html
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chunkdaddy00:
Hey Phajen, the link for HTC #17 is down. I've been looking for another around and can't seem to find the another working link.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidmonkey:
Ive had the GPS issues since July, it seemed like it was fixed on the OTA update from Tmobile in November, the past 2 weeks the GPS has been horrendous.

For those that had the issues, did rooting your phone and installing a custom ROM fix the problem? Ive read mixed opinions that its a hardware vs software issue. If its hardware, im SOOL.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KerryG:
Wrong forum to post this question in, and yes
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] henreeg:
cool rom. i like it.