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[Epic 4G General] live2ride96:
Oh, what I wouldn't do for an Evo with a super AMOLED screen... In regard to battery life, the two Evos in my house absolutely kick the crap out of my Epic, even after getting a replacement (my launch day unit was HORRENDOUS with battery). The slider isn't bad, but my Samsung Impression was better, and that was a free messaging phone. Not what I would have expected out of a $250 phone. And I think that's what is so aggravating about the Epic. I WANT to love it. Really, I do. And in many ways, I do. It works the way I expect it to about 90% of the time. But considering that this phone was that expensive with a contract, there's frankly no excuse for it not having Froyo yet. There's no excuse for GPS that DOES NOT WORK. There's no excuse for the cheap plastic feel to the phone. Now I know it's a consumer product and there will be flaws, but some of these problems (mainly the GPS) are core flaws in the phone. When the hell did it become ok to release beta products to the general public? And believe me, Samsung isn't the only one guilty of that.
[Epic 4G General] raylusk:
Funny how these sites get their information wrong. Here is an article (and there are many of them if you google it) that clearly shows that the statement about the release of 2.2 was for the UK.

http://www.gadgetvenue.com/samsung-galaxy-tmobile-android-22-update-incoming-11302031/
[Epic 4G General] npr_kid:
Your gonna wish you had your Epic back after 2.2 is released. I'm getting benchmarked scores of around 2200 with unofficial 2.2 leak as were the Evo gets around 1150. And the battery life is way way better than the Evo.
[Epic 4G General] spf2722:
Benchmarks dont matter for the epic yet, quadrant isnt meant to actually measure the epics preformance.
[Epic 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
Benchmarks mean absolutely Jack to me. I already rooted this evo and am running cyanogenmod 6.1

Battery life on the evo is better. I don't care what anybody says.

By the way my quadrant score on the evo is 1300 to 1500. But it don't mean ****.

I'm sure the epic will be a blazing fast phone on official 2.2.

The evo on cm is pretty freaking fast. Fast enough for me.
[Epic 4G General] bomix:
yeah I ditched my Evo for the epic.. oh wrong thread. whatever floats your boat.. we really don't care.. if you have something to input that's good.. otherwise.. laters..
[Epic 4G General] live2ride96:
If you don't care, why are you even bothering to read, or better yet, taking the time to reply to the thread. Some people might care. That's the point of a "forum". It's a little something for everybody. Nobody is forcing you to read or reply to every thread, so if you don't care, just leave it alone.
[Epic 4G General] socos25:
I'm not even sure why either one bothered to post... Worst of it all is I went and read all five pages of this.. There's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back. DOH!!

I'm just saying if I decided to use my Epic for a boat anchor I wouldn't feel the need to post a thread about it.. but oh well its what makes this all entertaining...

I just get the feeling that most people who post here live alone and have no friends. :-)
[Epic 4G General] bomix:
HAHA well said.. Shall I post what i'm having for dinner? sorry I don't care and i'm posting again! lol.. moving along now back to the community.
[Epic 4G General] Despiadado1:
As to which is better, the Epic wins but not by much. I owned the Evo and returned it because I felt it was "just" short of acceptable in overall performance (radio, battery, screen). The Epic looks like a chick phone which is irritating but the screen is so damn pretty it's easy enough to ignore the body of the phone. Camera is nice except for action shots which I guess is somewhat expected but no less irritating.

The real problem is that the Samsung file system diminishes performance on this phone so much that it seems slower than the Evo at times. This phone, using the default Google UI and file system, would be wonderful.

Alas, I too am anxiously awaiting the next high end phone from Sprint. I will replace my Epic as long as the new phone isn't Samsung made.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
For those of you saying the Evo's battery is better, did you toggle Airplane phone off for 15 seconds after booting everytime. I get much more life out of my battery now since doing so. Ib4somebodysaysweshouldn'thaveto.
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
I think I might order pizza tonight. I know I promised my two kids I would cook but I think they may like this better. Besides, it's Friday, I'm allowed to be lazy one dinner a week, right?

Oh, you weren't serious? At least I contributed about the same value to the thread as most others did, I suppose.
[Epic 4G General] live2ride96:
So if a response doesn't contribute toward the resolving of an issue, etc, etc, blah blah blah, it's not ok to post? Isn't the point of a forum to develop a discussion? If something's a little bit off topic and doesn't directly advance the topic, so what? This is why it's the "general" section. All I was trying to say is if you want a thread to go away, ignore it and it will. I'm not *****ing at anyone, just offering a logical solution to a thread you don't care about. Sorry if my contribution was pointless.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] evolutionqy7:
Is there any fix for that? There's so many builds out there with it. It lets you donwload it but not install it

Only one I didn't have it with was mdejay android builds. Is there anyway of fixing this cause all my favorite games wont install.

And yes I tried mount unmount
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tobiascrystal:
try this

try unmounting your SD Card then installing it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] evolutionqy7:
Tried that too

On my HTC HD2 using tapatalk
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tobiascrystal:
so is it downloading and never installing or is it downloading and failing?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] evolutionqy7:
Downloads and fails to install. It happens on a few 2.2.1 stock builds and miui

On my HTC HD2 using tapatalk
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tobiascrystal:
You got me then, Most of the time I run into that issue I just download it a second time, which with the bigger files is a pain, and it works if i unmount the SD card.

I have been trying to get the christmas edition of angry birds and it doesnt even start for me. anything else works though for some reason!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Archer:
If they're downloading but not installing, then have a look at this post...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9363528&postcount=3

If the files are there then at least you can manually install. It's obviously not a fix, but better than not being able to install anything!

Why not just go back to an MDJ build? I'm about to go back to one of his myself, now that I've heard he's got the camera working on a Desire HD build :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] evolutionqy7:
Not a fan of sense builds. And theres certain bits and pieces of MIUI functionality that i cant live without :) and i tried the 4.0 Desire HD build and it drained my battery in under 5 hours

I know that the apks are there but it wont let me install them. After a while it says installation failed.

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Either way changed to a MIUI Start Build yesterday and that supports external storage mode. It does have the bug too but at least it works when you unmount card. Only got 300 MB left now :S
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] SK_007:
Hi guys,today i got the latest update for our favourite game Angry birds called Angry birds seasons,it has total 71 levels,including 45 levels of the haloween edition,which were previously available only for Apple iphone and 25 chrismas levels which are updated day by day through your wifi,and guess what Android is the first platform to get these chrismas levels,sorry Apple lol!,so what r u waiting for hurry up go and get yours it is free in the Android Market,anyway for you guys here are a couple of screenshots below:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!...8&set=a.165795586777009.33267.100000397056858

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!...7&set=a.165795586777009.33267.100000397056858

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=171542189535682&set=a.165795586777009.33267.100000397056858

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...100000397056858&pid=423207&id=100000397056858

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...100000397056858&pid=423209&id=100000397056858

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...100000397056858&pid=423210&id=100000397056858

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...100000397056858&pid=423211&id=100000397056858

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...100000397056858&pid=423212&id=100000397056858

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...100000397056858&pid=423214&id=100000397056858
[G Tablet General] lostpilot28:
I just called Viewsonic to ask if they were going to be releasing updates in the near future to fix the G-tab problems. The girl I talked to was very nice (and I'm not just saying that because she said they keep tabs on xda-developers.com!)...but she couldn't provide a timeline or details about upcoming fixes or software. Bummer.

She did, however, mention that they're aware of the problems with Tap'NTap and that they're looking at ways to improve performance. I hope that means they'll be updating the drivers to use the 2nd core of the Tegra 2. I'm happy with that answer because I just want to know that the company is supporting its products. I'm pretty satisfied with my G-tab currently, but I really want it to run at it's optimal performance.

Just thought I'd share what I heard. :)
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
LOL!! Bye bye tapntap!
[G Tablet General] Irish G:
I spoke to Viewsonic Tech Support last night and, as usual, the guy was very eager to help, but didn't have a lot of answers. He did confirm that the 20 Dec release will update several things, like provide VTC software, keyboard update, TnT update, and a long list of other issues that appear to be repeat gripes from users...
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Too late to stem the tide of returns though. On a positive note, plenty of time for Roeby & Company to rest before the next source for a big update :)

Unless something comes by their paths earlier.....
[G Tablet General] lostpilot28:
What is VTC software?
[G Tablet General] jacindc:
I think they just completely misjudged their market. They thought they could get away with a toy-like interface (clearly targeted toward Moms, with the "Grocery List" and "To-Do List" and photos front and center), but in this era when so many people have smartphones, the TNT stuff isn't going to cut it. Once you've seen an iPhone or Android 2.x in action, you're not going to want some sort of fake overlay. Especially when you KNOW that Android is running beneath it!

Lack of full Market and Angry Birds was also a killer error.

Now that I've got TNTLite, full Market, and Google apps syncing, this is exactly what I expected a tab to be--a big version of my phone. I knew that by getting one now I wouldn't get a fabulous *tab* experience (awaiting Honeycomb for that), but I did at least want the equivalent of my phone, on a bigger screen. Which I imagine is common.

XDA types and other folks in the know who see the specs on this thing and know that it has the potential to keep up with the first generation of Honeycomb tablets (and are willing to mod to make it useable) are the only thing coming close to preventing this from being a complete debacle for Viewsonic.

I wonder whether they'll truly get rid of TnT, though.
[G Tablet General] Irish G:
video teleconference - video chat software like Skype...
[G Tablet General] LTL11:
Could not have said it better myself.

I actually have a few people at work looking to buy these things as long as I can "fix" them.

Hilarious and sad at the same time that Viewsonic would release a product like they have.
[G Tablet General] varugj:
I spoke to a sales rep at sears to see if they had any refurbs. She mentioned they still haven't sold one piece yet, and they've had stock a week prior to BF.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Not to be a downer, but at the current return rates and no decent chance for a fix for the majority of people (non modders) until 12/20- The Gtablet may not be around very long. This product may be one of those firesale devices and then Viewsonic will flip the bill for that sale.

Not seeing how anymore than the current 60,000-ish will be produced. Not good business sense and would not be surprised to see the device rebranded, once a stable rom is made and shipped with the device (or a version of it).

No way anybody selling will be net positive for dollars with this device and Viewsonic had better have some cash accrued in their P&L for February. That will be the month of being accountable for this product. This will be in the seven figure zone for compensation. How can it not be?

This device shipped about two months too early. Still wild that the Advent Vega apparently does not have the problems out of box and also a Tegra 2. One month later release though.

added:

The mod community is the only reason return rates are probably not near parity with sales. My guess is the reason we have not seen more refurbs is a combination or presents wrapped up and shipments held from sale (either by not pushing sales or not releasing from warehouses).

It will take a firmware package miracle and good web page communication by Viewsonic to turn the sunami of returns away after Christmas.

Regardless, the Gtablet will be a legend for modders, but the net loss of margin for selling at discounts or refurbs will be rough for sellers. All 60,000 WILL sell, just not in the retail format as expected.
[G Tablet General] jacindc:
Totally agree, but as long as we can keep Roebeet and Rothnic and a few others chained to their Gtabs, maybe we can get to Honeycomb. ;-)

If I have to buy a new tab next spring, it won't be the end of the world. I always looked at this as a toy to tide me over. But it might have the possibility of lasting a lot longer, at least in the XDA world. If not, I'll give it to Mom and Dad. In its TNTLite config, it'll work just fine for them.
[G Tablet General] lostpilot28:
I don't necessarily agree with this. I don't think it's the timing of release compared to Android 3.0 that's the problem, or that it's the hardware. It just seems that Viewsonic COULD have offered better drivers and a lightly modified Froyo build right from the beginning. The G-Tab would work so much better if they had.

Hopefully, Viewsonic is listening and they release better drivers soon. I think the hardware is fantastic...it would be a shame to have to return this thing because they're too slow to fix the software issues.

I'm seriously crossing my fingers that the XDA rockstars get the Advent Vega MOD running. That would be fantastic.
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
I called around to my two local sears and asked if they had return units for sale. Both said no.

I, for one, want these to be succesful and to sell. Nothing worse than this whole thing being a flop and then Viewsonic dropping the product support for them. That means our chances of getting updated roms gets slimmer, especially stuff like honeycomb.
[G Tablet General] NewbTrader:
I don't think there's any doubt that some of the issues related to the tablet are due to its lack of hardware support from the actual mfrs, and Android. Some examples.. when this was launched, there wasn't even flash available (they had to wait on adobe for this). This can't be blamed on viewsonic, and it's unfortunate but ultimately they get the blame that it doesn't have flash. Why have they not included the "beta" plugin from Adobe? Perhaps because it's a beta version, and they're not allowed to package it in and release it.

We also have issues with the Tegra 2. Did Nvidia's QA dept or who knows what reason cause delays for the drivers to get to Viewsonic? Again, we don't know. I'm sure Viewsonic would've loved to package up the latest/best drivers, but the reality is that perhaps they weren't available.

Regarding Android, well, we all know some of the problems. Hardware acceleration for videos via Android and the Tegra 2 simply isn't there. The Tegra 2 does HW decoding of various formats, and it looks like it's not working. Again, is this android or perhaps Nvidia? Who knows really. We also have the issue with lack of dual core support in Android 2.2.

Anyway, point is, Viewsonic is certainly not the sole person to blame for a poor launch of this product and it being "incomplete." I'm sure the parties and circumstances caused a problem. I'm a dev myself, so I understand all the problems that could arise from a "new" device. I just figured I'd mention these things to highlight the possible problems that arise from such a device, for the non-techy folks. Perhaps they shouldn't have launched the devices until they were more functional, and yes that rests on Viewsonic.

Just my 2 cents.. I certainly understand people's frustration..
[G Tablet General] ewitte:
This is why everything else with Tegra is preorder. Waiting on flash, market, etc to become available first. Still I think Viewsonic would have cut their returns in half if they would have just left the overlay off.
[G Tablet General] dan1431:
My big worry is that roebeet and others are going to move (totally within their rights) on and we are going to be left with a device that Viewsonic is not going to improve through future updates due to poor sales.

Honestly, what roebeet and others have done is simply amazing and I am very appreciative for their work. However, Honeycomb is some time off and it is unknown whether DEVs will be around to keep the Gtab up to date.

Dan
[G Tablet General] ewitte:
Nvidia releasing a honeycomb build for developers is 90% of what we need. Like they did for Froyo. As long is Tegra2 is produced I'm not worrying.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Agree with you- point is Viewsonic is nowhere near ready with an out of box firmware package and non-mod consumers will treat the device as defective. Considering it shipped late October and assuming the 12/20 FW release is solid, it would be two months- hence my two months too early assertion.

Even if 60,000 is all that is made (I hope it is not the case), that still means plenty of devices floating around :)

Who knows, maybe VS will release a near-miracle update and communicate on their support page the status and a roadmap to more improvements.

Communication like that via a published format on their web page for the product would be HUGE for customer trust

:)

Not dogging the device proper (I still own one at $402 total)- but am dogging the out of box state for most consumers.
[G Tablet General] dkhilo:
I'm afraid of that possibility as well. What's really sad is that Viewsonic had the chance to become the "iPod" of Android Tablets, but they're seriously blowing it. A product that works as bad as this out of the box will seriously discourage repeat buyers. Repeat buyers drives iPod sales, this won't happen for Viewsonic if these issues aren't addressed.

The enhancements that have been made in just a few weeks by the efforts of Roebeet, Rothnic, Bekit and others show the great potential with the existing hardware they're selling. Any of these releases is more like what Viewsonic should have released in the first place. I just hope that the Malata does better in Asia, it sounds like they're being pretty progressive about getting patches out there. If Malata succeeds at least there's hope for future upgrades/enhancements.

Reading the NVidia Tegra Development Forums it sounds like they've got 1080P running on their Tegra 250 Dev Kit, on linux at least. Can anyone shed some light on why the development for the Android doesn't seem to be keeping up? Is the 2.2 Platform incapable of that level of performance or are they instead concentrating their efforts on Gingerbread or Honeycomb for that performance boost? It seems some of this failure of delivering a better performing product lies in NVidia's lap, Viewsonic's software is another story. Looking over the latest "Advent Performance Pack" that was recently released, these are the files from the image that was released in the Tegra Developer Forums on 11/11/10. The Tegra 2 was shown to developers in January(or earlier) and only now have they released code to provide better performance for the Tegra 2? It's like they're sabotaging themselves by not utilizing their hardware to the best of it's abilities.

I'm confused by all of this, wouldn't

make a good product = sell more = make more money = make more on repeat buyers(upgrading)

make sense versus

release an immature product = loss on returns = customers will never buy from again?
[G Tablet General] NewbTrader:
I guess the short answer is "things take time." The reality is that drivers do go through different iterations, and perhaps Tegra 2 (and possibly the drivers) would fare better in Android 2.3. Sometimes you just have to be patient, and rushing things can result in the Viewsonic tablet. I was trying to say that in my rather long winded post.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
The positive is Roebeet showed us the power this device has with our brief 2.03 fling :)

I will force a positive tude' and hope VS releases a very solid FW package and ASAP, publish current status and a road map of coming fixes so customers can gain trust in the product and Viewsonic.

......Why would they not communicate efforts this way?
[G Tablet General] thedudevt:
Software updates from VS are moot as soon as VS releases the kernel source. Once that happens, third party devs (like roebeet and rothnic and the other guys on this forum) will be able to easily roll in and troubleshoot what ever new goodness can be found much more easily.

TheDude
[G Tablet General] Talk2Rider:
I think, as someone mentioned earlier, that ViewSonic was targeting a much different type of user than what we have here on a XDA-developers forum. They were really wanting to catch the Apple IPAD demographic - but that group does not tinker. They expect everything to work and everything to be intuitive. It is (apparently) fine if you lock them into a fortress and limit them every which way to Sunday, but the thing had better work out of the box.

I wonder what would happen if they actually had targeted tech geeks? Hardware wise, I think this is about as geek friendly as you can get! Now if they had just put a rooted vanilla Froyo 2.2 on the tablet with some pre-installed mod tools, some anti-Apple wallpapers, and a "Wanna watch me Flash?" T-shirt, the modders would be all over this.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatJasper:
Hi,

I had XPERIA X1 for something like year but foolishly traded it for iPhone (big mistake). I loved its QWERTY keyboard, awesome design, that it was made of metal and of course WinMo. So I'd like to know if it is still worth buying and if there are any other (newer) phones in the market that have design similar to XPERIA or at least they are made from metal (not necessarily every part) and of course (that is a must) have QWERTY keyboard. Please tell me, what do you suggest.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cliffordlee:
From the sheer amount of issues with the X1, get an X2 instead or something else if you want a QWERTY keyboaard on WM!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatJasper:
I'm searching for device that is made from good materials and it doesn't have to have WinMo (any OS will do), just physical QWERTY keyboard (maybe also unique design like XPERIA).

PS: Still, I'd like to know if you think that XPERIA X1 is worth buying or not.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ToeFood:
Take a look at the google g2, my friend has one and don't let that 800 mhz fool you...it is buttery smooth.....
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harveydent:
Depends on the price. If you can get an X1 for a hundred bucks, it's a good buy. If not, get one of the newer phones. Windows Mobile "classic" is a dead platform, haven't seen new useful apps in months.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] idavid_:
i think you should buy t-mobile g2/htc desire z (hardware is the same, but htc desire z has htc sense)