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[Nexus One General] SBERG117:
Where did i say you didnt want gingerbread? And i know what you meant by the shine the first time you wrote it. The thing your missing most is google never gave a firm date of release, ever. They said its being worked on ...it is.....They said its almost done and will be here soon.....really looks like it will. Why do you keep thinking youve been kept in the dark about something your realistically not even supposed to know about? Honestly you just come across as whiny and spoiled. Im sure you dont mean too but thats how it looks.

Read above reply.......... youve worded what you said above differently but it all still says the same thing. Again whatever point your going for isnt materializing. Your over-thinking and under-appreciating all at the same time.

Yes it would be wrong, cause then it means that instead of building top quality OS's theyre reading all this junk instead....so yea it would be wrong.
[Nexus One General] msavic6:
This is

GREAT

news, just what i wanted to be fixed. Guess im gonna switch to the stock launcher when gingerbread arrives. I'll just assume they enabled hardware acceleration. Any other noticeable new features? :D
[Nexus One General] unknownrebelx:
From the leaked images, it looks like kind of a step backwards aesthetically. Sure they finally added the black bar (I assume people want this seeing as every carrier has been using black bars) and made everything green. In addition, everything appears to be blocky rather than curved. I dont know, seeing that, I'm not so impressed. I was expecting something more after the WebOS guy got onboard with Google.

I AM sure, however, that they did a TON of optimization with the launcher and it will probably be a lot better than stock. Even so, I have a lingering feeling I may be sticking with LauncherPro.

Regardless of what is released, this will be a step forward. Even if Gingerbread completely sucks, I'm sure the devs here will whip out a great custom rom within weeks of the source being released. Most of the people on XDA are using custom roms anyways. Roms based on gingerbread will be awesome, I can be sure of that. :D
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
Copy/paste is much better and makes the trackball pretty useless, it has overscroll but in a way completely different from iOS, that sexy screen lock animation, and I'm sure I'll think of other stuff. My battery life seems a bit better, but that's coming from CM6 which was a bit of a pig. YMMV

I think the UI changes are great. I thought the gray status bar and menus were dated, this looks awesome on the AMOLED screen. I bet it'll look even better on an SAMOLED. Basically everywhere that used to have that silver color is now very dark gray (not completely black like the menu bar) with lighter gray text/icons. I like the new black/orange/green color palette.
[Nexus One General] msavic6:
This makes me even more excited for gingerbread :)
[Nexus One General] bhaiwaah:
Isn't blindtype itself reason enough to be happy about Gingerbread? If all is incorporated as shown on youtube, it would be awesome:p
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
Oh yeah, I forgot, the keyboard is different. I can't really comment on how good it is because I loaded Swype right away. I'd be lost without my Swype.
[Nexus One General] SBERG117:
Are you allowed to make a video of you using the phone? You mentioned when you post pics people assume photoshop. Video would take all that out of play wouldnt it?
[Nexus One General] jokersax11:
Could you load a different launcher and compare to see if its hardware accelerated or at least guess. Any chance of a benchmark
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
That's far too much work, plus I don't want to raise any of our Google overlords' eyebrows.
[Nexus One General] jokersax11:
Well thank you for what you could say.
[Nexus One General] SBERG117:
Kinda why i said if your allowed too. lol. As far as too much work? Cmon man.......Really? :D:D Its cool , youve givin some cool info, i appreciate that.
[Nexus One General] nexus14:
Android 2.3 doesn't have overscroll. When you reach the end of a list, the top or bottom part of the screen lights up slightly

When locking the device, there is that weird TV-zap animation that's been leaked everywhere

where did i get this info?

just look at the leaked psphone video and you will see :)
[Nexus One General] stian230:
Sweet Screen off animation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=k2ivG0IvckM

When locking the device, there is that weird TV-zap animation that's been leaked everywhere

where did i get this info?

just look at the leaked psphone video and you will see :)[/QUOTE]
[Nexus One General] pzumk:
Hey! Did you accidentally uploaded gingerbread somewhere? :P
[Nexus One General] cTrox:
Can you tell us something about the music player and the gallery? Are there any changes?
[Nexus One General] OJ in Compton:
Yeah, if you wouldn't mind sharing, has the music player changed at all in terms of navigation or the now playing screen?
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
That's still a form of overscroll. The faster you reach the end, the more it lights up.

The music app and gallery are the same, but that's just my build, I can't speak for what it'll have when it's released.
[Nexus One General] kerodean:
Does it do the TV-like screen off animation?

Also, is there an option to change the black status bar back to white?
[Nexus One General] skunz35:
So Mortzz did your friend at Google say anything about when you would be getting the official update??
[Nexus One General] tameracingdriver:
Shame the gallery is the same - the current one sucks - slow and unresponsive and unnecessarily gimmicky. Surprised nobody seems to have programmed a good gallery replacement app as yet.
[Nexus One General] knightnz:
It's not the apps fault, it's the way it's implemented on the N1, my Galaxy Tab has the same application and it's MUCH, MUCH faster.
[Nexus One General] Sarg92:
Do you know how old your build is?

I really hope that the final build does have an improved Music app, in terms of UI and functionality. The Music app shown back at Google I/O looked great aesthetically!

Seeing as you have been running Gingerbread for a while, do you know much about Honeycomb?
[Nexus One General] ExtraDas:
+1 dude. You've just made my day
[Nexus One General] mortzz:
Yes, and it is *just* as cool in person as it is in video. I giggled the first time I saw it.

No idea.

~month or so. I can't speak for anything but the build I have.

I haven't used Honeycomb.
[Nexus One General] musashiken:
What about a good hacky fix? CM has made some enhancements to the current gallery3d and someone made a flashable zip for other roms.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=804161&highlight=camera+fix

Coupled with a fast sd card, this modified gallery3d flies.
[Nexus One General] hks18psigst:
Mortzz What build number are you running?
[Nexus One General] izmar:
6 months for minor cosmetic updates seems like a long time. Apple regularly releases new iOS versions. Usually security fixes and what have you, but they are at least more frequent. I would love minor updates every 2 weeks as opposed to one big update every 6 months, how about you?
[Nexus One General] SphericalPuma:
I can't tell you how angry it makes me to have everyone shrug off gingerbread as only "minor cosmetic upgrades." It ranks right up there with "This is why it's 2.3 and not 3.0, CUZ LIEK NUTIN IS BEIN ADDED LOLZ." I would say the jump from 2.1 to 2.2 included a lot of things, none more important than JIT, but I guess that was just a minor thing.

The fact remains that no one knows what's under the hood in gingerbread. All we have are some screenshots and a video, so until the SDK and change-log are out there, I think everyone should stop their crying.
[Nexus One General] NexusDro:
Don't forget that we got 2.2.1 and then FGF83D something a few weeks ago.
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
What he said. And has iOS ever received a cosmetic update? As far as I can tell, the newest version looks just like the older ones, only smaller / higher res. Still looks like a polished turd to me. If polished turds are your thing, great.

As for me, I'm axiously awaiting the arrival of Gingerbread - minor cosmetic updates and all. Nor do I feel slighted that it hasn't been released on my schedule. Bottom line: the updates are free. They are created for free, and given to us for free. All we have to do is wait for them to be magically pushed to our handhelds - without even having to hook up to a computer. (I'm speaking for the theoretical 1 or 2 stock builds still in use on this board ;) )

Google can take as long as they please to get a product they are happy with, and I'll be overjoyed when it finally comes our way.
[Nexus One General] e-dub:
i still have a stock rom, lol. i got my fill of flashing roms, etc, in my winmo 5 and 6.x days.

eric b
[Nexus One General] SoberGuy:
Ditto. On WinMo it was a requirement. Improved speed, more stability, etc. You had to flash to have a device that didn't suck. With Nexy? Perfectly cool stock (and rooted). I haven't seen any major advantages to a custom ROM, for me and my needs. Some look cool, some run a little faster. I'm perfectly happy stock.

Sent from my Sexy Nexy, courtesy of the fine developers of Tapatalk
[Nexus One General] skunz35:
I'm still stock as well lol, jailbreaking iphones and installing new rom's on wm did me in :-/
[Nexus One General] galaxys:
Know the feeling...I took a break between WM and Android. But now I'm back to having fun by flashing again :D:cool:
[Nexus One General] torchedlh:
I'd be completely satisfied if the the music player and gallery were updated. Both are unnecessarily difficult to navigate and just plain suck. Please Google, just copy Apple here and be done with it.
[Nexus One General] jokersax11:
Don't copy apple they wont sue you. Make it better then wait for apple to take you to court cause they invented music on a phone and everything else and can't compete on an open market and must find something to sue everyone better then them. It's there business plan
[Nexus One General] PrawnPoBoy:
The music app isn't the greatest, but 3rd party developers seem to be doing a pretty good job of filling that gap. I'm using Winamp at the moment and it seems great. Having shoutcast radio is awesome.

What's so bad about Gallery though? I think it's one of the nicer first party apps.

I would much rather see improvements to the email, messaging and calendar apps. They are all quite basic and and not very nice to look at.
[Nexus One General] slowz3r:
So, Its almost Monday *drools*

lol
[Nexus One General] PrawnPoBoy:
Actually, what I'd really like to see are some changes to Google Talk to make it more BBM-ish along with updated clients for iPhone and BlackBerry. I really want a good reliable cross-platform chat program with group chat and media attachments and so far everything out there comes up short.
[Nexus One General] jokersax11:
What if it had a new requirement that manufactures had to update within an alloted time frame and provided better debug and low level tools to achive this or a universal file system. Come on its dream feature time
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
It's been Monday here for 10 hours. No Gingerbread yet :'-(
[Nexus One General] SamUserInterface:
In a major update, maybe. But this is just bumping up to 2.3. I doubt Google will try to impose new restrictions on the manufacturers either.

Universal file system? idgi?
[Nexus One General] jivemaster:
Surprising to see a lot of haters for an os that hasn't even been released, and has barely seen the light of day as far as real news is concerned.

Everyone *****ed about froyo when it dragged on and then it was released and now people can't get enough of it.

I guarantee everyone will want to upgrade to gingerbread. No question.
[Nexus One General] deeren:
Hope i am wrong ;

but to me, it is extremely normal that google would not release gingerbread to our nexuses before announcing and releasing the nexus s!!!
[Nexus One General] slowz3r:
Coincidence?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/nfc-certification-program-announced-just-in-time-for-android-2-3/

The problem with that is that the status of the Nexus S is unknown we have no clue when it will be released..and google promised 2.3 by the end of the year and i just dont see the Nexus S hitting the street by then
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
That's kinda the whole point of the Android system, isn't it? "Openness?" For better or for worse, the manufacturers pretty much get to do whatever they want with it. I see this as simultaneously Android's greatest strength and its greatest weakness.
[Nexus One General] izmar:
I am not comparing the content of the updates, and even if I were to, android and iOS are on two different levels. As for iOS being a polished turd, that sounds like typical fan boy talk. To completely disregard the iphone as being anything but garbage is idiotic. The iphone is an obviously relevant competitor.

As for updates though, while yes, you're right, they're free. Google is still a company looking to make money, and if they wish to keep their customers' satisfied, they need to continue advancing their platform at a steady pace. I feel as though Android, for being as big as it's gotten, isn't receiving the attention it deserves from Google. Google is looking too far ahead, they need to focus on the now! For god sakes, talks of 4.0 already, and we don't even have 2.3!

Though, to each their own. Like you I will be enjoying the fruits of Google's labor, whenever it drops from the branch that is. All I'm saying is that if it takes too long, they're are plenty of fresh fallen Apples (get it? :P) and windows phone 7s to go around to those hungry hungry consumers.
[Nexus One General] vegetaleb:
Gingerbead is on the shelves of my street's bakery since morning :
[Nexus One General] tameracingdriver:
Hey, cheers for that, I'll give it a go :)
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
Honestly, I don't think the average user really cares about updates. They just want their phone to work when they need it to. Delaying the launch of Gingerbread is not as big of a deal as people are trying to make it out to be. Nobody is going to say "well, Google has taken 5 months to release a major upgrade. I guess I'm gonna jump ship and go to Apple (who's taken four generations to finally match the capability Android had stock) or Windows Mobile (which actually seems to have taken a step backwards - oh, and gets updated less frequently than many people update their cars)."

It's a silly argument.

Keep Calm, and Carry On.
[Nexus One General] GlenH:
Well, it's the 6th.

Where's my gingerbread then? Nom nom nom nom
[Nexus One General] torchedlh:
The gallery app has so much eye candy resulting in too much dead space. I love how simple and functional the iphone's is. This is one area where apple beats google in function over form.
[Nexus One General] draugaz:
Don't pay so much attention to those version numbers.

Easy to quantfy as they are, technically they are pretty meaningless goalposts. Something being at V5.2901 build 233546 is not necessary further developed than a similar product sitting just at V0.98beta.
[Nexus One General] justclimb:
Just in case anyone missed:

Tomorrow, Chrome OS is gonna get launched by Google, along with a possible Nexus Netbook...by Sammy.

It would be funny the Gingerbread update on our Nexies got delayed because of the unreadiness of the unannounced Nexus S...by Sammy.

Following the path... Honeycomb's introduction would be tied with a new Nexus Tab...by Sammy.

Galaxy S users will be the first to get with me behind the feeling:

"Fck Sammy!"
[Nexus One General] jokersax11:
Actually i like the idea of a sammy nexus they make great hardware and lack software. Google behind both sammy and HTC ideal. The nexus one will continue to have support while added sammy support
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
The best we're likely to see today is the 2.3 SDK if you ask me.
[Nexus One General] behelit:
They've been dragging gingerbread out for so long now..

I just want that tv like screen off
[Nexus One General] TitusF:
I read somewhere that the launch of Gingerbread was delayed due to changes on the Nexus S, mainly from single processor to dual. Gingerbread was not optimized for dual processor so it's release was delayed.

As you can see, it's not 6 months for just some minor cosmetic changes (not to mention the NFC support).
[Nexus One General] dany74q:
We might see GB today/tomorrow , Andy Rubin (founder of android) is going to talk at the Allthingsdigital conf.

Sure hope we`ll see it today.
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
This is what I'm realistically anticipating. It would be silly to launch the OS before developers have had a chance to update their apps off the SDK. I've been refreshing the SDK page pretty regularly the past few days hoping something will get uploaded there that would suggest we might actually see the Gingerbread release today.... so far, nothing.

So it'd be cool if the SDK dropped today. If not, *shrug* oh well. I've got no problem waiting. It'll be ready when it's ready, and not a moment before.
[Nexus One General] gregorisvas:
Its here ;) SDK out.. :)
[Nexus One General] PrawnPoBoy:
He's right, it's here!

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3.html

I'm still hoping the N1 build gets announced today.
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
Looks like so far we've just got the SDK and the official announcement of the NS. *shrug* I'll take it. Downloading the SDK now. Emulator should be fun.
[Nexus One General] izmar:
of course average users care about updates. Unless you're idea of an average user is my mom, who can barely text.

I'm not necessarily making a big deal about the delay of gingerbread, but software updates in general. Google its still playing catch up with apple in some aspects.

The iphone also came out one and a half years earlier than the g1, it bloody created the average consumer smartphone market!

As for windows phone 7, how can you be commenting on its updates when its barely been out for a month?

And as for jumping ship, I think plenty of people have considered the switch to both windows p7 and the iphone 4. They are both backed by companies with more experience in consumer products in their respective pinky fingers than google has in its entire body.

Its anything but a silly argument, I refuse to let people shadowed by fan boyism walk over competitors products when theyre obviously taking up huge shares of the market.

Now I'm not saying I think android isnt the best mobile operating system, because I think it is, but I am saying its stupid to disregard other companys products.

And I'm always calm, I just write with enthusiasm ;)
[Nexus One General] :
Acer for the netbook, not Samsung.

The tablet is Moto.

Google is getting around like a two dollar ho.
[Nexus One General] ChongoDroid:
Miui + screen off animation and no more dithering and ill be happy. I don't expect anything I am simply happy to have such an amazing phone. 2.3 will make android better period
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
My idea of an average user would be the people who look at me like I'm crazy when I (and my geek friends) get all excited about some teeny tiny new feature. The ones who just want their phone to work. They use it for talking, texting, emails, and surfing the web - and maybe the occasional round of Angry Birds. They view an update as an inconvenience - something that must be dealt with, rather than something to look forward to.

There was a consumer smartphone market before the iPhone, and before the G1. Shocking, I know. Now it wasn't nearly as popular before Apple came on the scene (kind of like MP3 players (a term I hate - it's a harddrive with music software on it) before the iPod), and I can credit Apple with their own success. They consistently make a product that people want. Good on them.

I used Windows Mobile phones for 2+ years before I finally made the move to Android. The only official update I ever saw was from WM6.1 to WM6.5. WM has been a stagnant OS for some time now, and I don't see any reason that will change.

Yes, both Microsoft and Apple have more experience in the consumer market - they've been happily screwing consumers for two decades. At any rate, I know far more iPhone and WM users who are looking to move to Android than the other way around.

Thanks for the repeated name-calling, by the way. Just because I think Android's got the best chance of success at this point does not make me a fan boy. I've owned and used devices running iOS, palmOS, Blackberry OS, Windows Mobile, Symbian (heh), and Android. I've researched and/or tried out recent offerings from each company as well, and remain with my full support behind Android.

While the competitors do each take up a huge share of the market, none of them have exhibited the gains and growth that Android has over the past year. Regardless of how long updates take, regardless of everyone's petty gripes and complaints about how Google handles things, regardless of everything we've discussed thus far, Google is doing something right and Android's success thus far shows that.

Here's to hoping that success continues :)
[Nexus One General] GlobaL_TroTTer:
Pulled the words right out of my mouth
[Nexus One General] tommo123:
anandtech mentions re: 2.3, that it comes with an accelerated UI. to me, that's what i've been waiting for.

is it true? finally an accelerated UI??
[Nexus One General] SBERG117:
I bought my N1 in march of this year.

Phone came loaded with a OS that no other android user had at the time....Eclair.

A few months later i get a brand new OS that no other android user(besides N1 owners obviously) has.....Froyo.

Now here we are in Dec. and another brand new OS is about to drop that no other android user will have for a bit.........Gingerbread.

Now thats 3 major OS's in less than a year. I know the N1 launched earlier than when i bought. This isnt even counting all the various roms and other goodies available to mix and match with. What hasnt been supplied? Where did google go wrong? You wanna talk about slow upgrades that amount to nothing when they hit, try using a blackberry.

I spent 2009 on a storm 1. That was brutal. Coming over to android has been a big step up as far as how things work.Google might not get everything right all the time but no one ever does... dont kid yourself. What they are doing is really cool stuff for the mobile world. Im glad they offer us a choice.
[Nexus One General] xzr3b0rnzx:
come on mortzzz share ur rom here ^^
[Nexus One General] norazi:
u can get accelerated UI now using launcherpro...

if you want to use just vanilla android, im not sure what you are doing on xda-dev
[Nexus One General] tommo123:
no, i've never used vanilla droid. i've used sense, launcher pro, adw, and zeam and all but zeam (and only zeam on oxygen) lag.

various aosp roms with LP lag like mad with 7 full screens of shortcuts and widgets. worse than sense at it's worst, even overclocked.

unless LP offloading it's UI to the gpu happened in the last month or so, then it's not working. at least for me.

for now, i'm happy with sense hd.

did i earn the right to be here yet? :rolleyes:
[Nexus One General] PrawnPoBoy:
LauncherPro is a home screen replacement. It's a launcher app, and nothing more. It doesn't add any GPU or any other type of acceleration to Android at all. And HTC Sense and Touchwiz are not just launcher replacements. People seem very confused by all of this...

My understanding is not that GPU acceleration has been added to 2.3, but that better garbage collection and other dalvik improvements have been made and the result is less stuttering during ALL animations though out the entire system, not just in the launcher.
[Nexus One General] tommo123:
anything would be an improvement. here's hoping it's worth the wait :o