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[EVO 4G General] duckredbeard:
Someone I work with is considering rooting his Evo. I have given him my reasons why I am glad I rooted my Aria. I'm curious what others have gained from their rooted devices. Here's mine, not in any particular order.

Upgrade to FroYo using Liberated (FR007)

UOT Kitchen mods of GUI

Nandroid backups - able to repair failed experiments in UOT

Sideloading - stock Aria ROM didn't allow it

Apps to SD - Aria has small internal memory

The dozens of apps that make management easier (Quick Boot, CacheMate)

My most favorite one - adb and the removal of bloatware.

His EVO doesn't have the same limits that my Aria had out of the box, so some of these won't apply to him. Give me more ideas why he won't regret it.
[EVO 4G General] cmart4:
no offense, but prepared to get flamed for putting this in the dev section, should prob be in the general section.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
heres one, now he will have a bunch of question, and he can come gere and someone can rudely tell them to search, and when he does search he gets post of other people telling a OP to search
[EVO 4G General] jadehawk:
HotSpot

How about the TOP Reason (IMHO)

Able to use Sprint Hotspot wireless internet tethering without having to pay the extra $29.99 that Sprint wants to let you use that feature!..

and USB Internet tethering if you don't want to use the wireless..
[EVO 4G General] fastamx79:
I'm glad I rooted because it proved to me I can...

1) follow directions correctly

A) make posts in the right sections of this forum
[EVO 4G General] cmart4:
u win the prize my man..... free tethering ftw! also nice to uc/oc on the fly with different kernals
[EVO 4G General] baknblack:
My #1 reason for rooting wasn't to become a flashoholic. I wanted the one feature sprint took off the phone which was the ability to easily lock the phone on roam. I held off rooting till I saw Mr Gregg had put the roam control app on the market.

My wife and I both run stock versions of sense and are happy with the phones. Maybe it's just because I'm an old dude compared to most EVO owners. I do like reading the forum a lot though, lol.
[EVO 4G General] TheDave1022:
Hotspot

Backup Apps with Titanium Backup (Good for when you get a new phone and restoring settings)

Nandroid Backups/Swapping to different roms

Ability to run CM and no sense

No Ads
[EVO 4G General] semperlux:
If you have to ask why you should root it, then don't. It's risky, it voids your warranty, leads to other time consuming activities, you lose sleep (going to bed at 3, up at 6:30), stressful waiting (screen lockups, rude replies to noob questions, terminology). I did it because computers are a hobby and I don't like Sense.

But the bottom line is the (unrooted) HTC Evo (out of the box) is an amazing device and unless you have to provide an AP for others (which I don't AP's are everywhere these days). Sprint apps aren't that bothersome and overclocking my Evo didn't get my texts or email faster. (jk, I knew it wouldn't) or need a hand-held UNIX platform--there's no need to ever root.

I'm glad I did it though, but I miss my life. lol
[EVO 4G General] SouthernEvo:
I have two top reasons Im glad I rooted my Evo

1.) Myn's Roms particularly RLS 4 (Im in love with this Rom and Kernel)

2.) Also for once in my life I didnt just jump into something , I read everything about rooting , understood the process and was able to reverse it if I needed to .
[EVO 4G General] Cal3b:
if he is looking for reasons to root then he isnt going to take advantage of most of what rooting has to offer. for him, free thethering, removal of bloatware, and no adds. if he gets into it then cyanogen, titanium backup, flashing stuff like fonts.

i rooted my girls phone so i can back all of her stuff up keep her phone free of bloatware and i flashed a custom font for her. she doesnt notice any difference but if anything happens like an update messing up or something i can fix everything easier because she is rooted.
[EVO 4G General] ramiss:
The 3 big ones for me:

1. Battery life. Most roms out there are more efficient than stock with battery life.

2. Nandroid.

3. Ability to install/remove any app.

Sent from my unit.
[EVO 4G General] flipper12:
When I see read about some of the developers saying things like, "I'll get back to it after class" or something to that effect, I feel old too. So out of curiosity, what is an "old dude" to you?
[EVO 4G General] flipper12:
In addition to the many reasons already cited, I've always tinkered and tweaked everything I've owned (i.e., computers, cars, etc.) This just continues that trend.
[EVO 4G General] baknblack:
An old dude to me would be about 80 since I'm 51 lol
[EVO 4G General] booyakasha:
lol, this.
[EVO 4G General] jmollabi:
his stock evo will kill your rooted aria..
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
1. To remove HTC Sense's ugliness.

2. To remove HTC Sense's slowness.

3. To remove HTC Sense's crappy experience.

4. To remove HTC Sense entirely.
[EVO 4G General] freditoj:
I take it that you don't like Sense.
[EVO 4G General] Got_Evo?:
Wireless tether, Screenshot, titanium back up, hulu, and most important.........riptides clear theme. Running Ava10
[EVO 4G General] :
Wow call me whatever you want, but for the people who root so they can gulp up and abuse Sprints uncapped data limit, without paying for it which because of this will probably lead Sprint to cap it for the people who are doing it the right way, and actually dont mind paying for that feature. Thats something if your doing I wouldnt go around bragging about, because in the long run your not doing anyone including yourselves any favors. Because I have friends who groan about their caps with other carriers, and how not even from tethering but normal monthly use have to pace themselves so their internet isnt slowed to an unusable state by the end of the month. Rant Over.
[EVO 4G General] openedmind:
The reason i rooted was because it opens the doors to whole new world. As many have experienced, I rooted just to get the wireless tether and save the $30 a month that sprint would charge.

However, I have since flashed different ROMs and installed software for root only, such as: setCPu, quickSShd, titanium backup etc.

In short, having access to root gives you the power to take full advantage of your very expensive phone.
[EVO 4G General] Fizzlepop:
I rooted and am still unable to remove any of the system apps I don't want.. I can't remove Sprint_NASCAR.apk, Stocks.apk or anything else... I've tried Titanium Backup and Root Explorer. Even when it verifies the file has been uninstalled and/or deleted in those programs, I reboot and it's back. I really thought I finally deleted them with Root Explorer.

I have no idea what else to do - My phone is pretty new.. I only received it last Wednesday... wondering if there was something Sprint updated recently that keeps re-copying those idiotic files back into my phone even when they've been deleted.
[EVO 4G General] kollock:
cyanogenmod.com
[EVO 4G General] chandlerw88:
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't pda net have a wired tethering app for non rooted users. Is that abusing the system?
[EVO 4G General] subcypher:
1. Because HTC takes forever to add Sense and Sprint takes forever to put their bloatware into Android so the latest versions of it are months old by the time they officially hit the device.

2. I hate being told that I can't do something and I especially hate being told how I may or may not use a device for which I paid good money.
[EVO 4G General] dkelle4:
1. Cyanogen

2. Mod

3. 6 (and hopefully 7 relatively soon)
[EVO 4G General] DCoop:
How do you abuse an unlimited data plan? If it's unlimited, which ours is, then how can someone declare a random number is too much?

Sprint advertises the Evo as coming with unlimited data, we pay extra for the "experience" that the Evo brings us via downloading/streaming. Sprint's ads tell you that with the Evo you can download movies, watch streaming live sports events, etc. Whether someone is watching a movie or event on their 4.3" screen or on their 19" laptop screen makes no difference and is the discretion of the Evo owner.

People who want limits should subscribe to another cellular service. Sprint is #1 in this country for a reason.
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
I think for me, the reason I have my Evo rooted is because of Sense. Sense looks nice, but I'm not too much of a fan of Sense really. I really didn't care about having 4g or HDMI, since as far as 4g goes the phone isn't activated, and HDMI I don't have any TV with HDMI. Cyanongen mod is probably the perfect rom that I've used. Stock Android experience, always is supported, and always grows to be better.
[EVO 4G General] fachadick:
Semantics. Not to get into this again, but what it comes down to is according to the Sprint agreement, any type of tethering outside of their hotspot feature is specifically not allowed. So if you tether in any way without paying the $29.99, that would be considered abuse.

Sent from my blah blah blah blah
[EVO 4G General] xlGmanlx:
just read OP and then last thread is about legality! got to love the forum's haha.

back on topic: for me its options and speed of updates. With all the great dev's working on android the after market community is way faster then the OEM's. That + android is the win for me
[EVO 4G General] vbetts:
Should also post, Cyanogen mod. Fastest rom I've used so far.
[EVO 4G General] dmacias:
I like being able to use autostarts to keep every program from trying to load at boot or connectivity change or whatever the trigger is. Backup and restore roms and programs. Tether wireless or wired. And every other tweak that makes it faster and last longer than stock.
[EVO 4G General] JayStation3:
Free tether, total control over your gadget, its like chrismas everytime you flash a new ROM and best of all - you soooo totally dont have to wait till dec 25th for christmas :)

Sent from the MATRIX... while plugged into my EVO... using the XDA app... from a galaxy far-far away.......
[EVO 4G General] Jbcarrera:
Azreal rom thats all i have to say
[EVO 4G General] buck1623:
Rooted for sheer control of my 500 dollar device.
[EVO 4G General] twiz0r:
#1 - cyanogenmod with darkfroyo and concerta font :)

#2 - tethering

#3 - removal of apps (including apps I delete every night when I flash cm6 nightly)

#4 - battery life and performance

#5 - nandroid
[EVO 4G General] Skeptron:
tethering .
[EVO 4G General] btedeski:
Top reasons you are glad you rooted!!!

Because I can,,,, and Because my Son Can't!!!
[EVO 4G General] Genjinaro:
For me,

1: WiFi Tether for Root users

2: Custom ROM Flashing (Especially MYN's works)

3: Screen Capture

4: A2SD

5: Kernel Flashing
[EVO 4G General] rajas_evo:
i rooted my evo.. so that i could use the Android OS to its full potential; tethering being a key feature. its a native feature on the Froyo, but sadly it is not available to the un-rooted.

other reasons for rooting including but not limited to:

the ability to create backups using nandroid and other backup apps

the ability to capture screenshots

the ability to save internal memory space (something like ~400MB)

the ability to overclock/underclock

the ability to update the firmware quicker than Sprint/HTC

the ability to have features that are NOT available for the evo.. the HD Desire Flip Clock, etc.
[EVO 4G General] a1platnum:
^ what he said.

Honestly, all the reasons i rooted my hero for seem to be fixed as the owner of an EVO. Decided to be apart of the mindless masses and just enjoy this one. :-p

Sent via HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G
[EVO 4G General] eluno:
wifi tether

better batt life with custom rom.

more toys and tools to play with:)
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bctf1:
Let me first say that I have read every post I could find on this subject and tried them all with no success. I rooted my Aria using the Ubuntu Live CD so I could use Titanium backup and eventually try different roms. My phone is still using the stock rom. I then installed Titanium backup which reports "your system settings will prevent you from restoring applications. to correct this go to your phone's settings, then in "applications" and tick the "unknown sources" check box."

The unknown sources check box is of course not there because I have not been able to successfully run the code for allowing non-market apps.

From terminal in the Ubuntu Live CD with USB cable connected and set to charge only. I tried and got "remount failed: operation not permitted." at the adb remount step.

Linux Code:

sudo su

adb remount

adb pull /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db settings.db

echo "update secure set value = 1 where name = 'install_non_market_apps';"|sqlite3 ./settings.db

adb push settings.db /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db

adb reboot

I downloaded the android-sdk_r07 and extracted it to my C drive. From a Windows command prompt, I changed to the sdk\tools folder. Adb devices sees the phone but adb remount fails with "remount failed: operation not permitted."

Windows Code:

adb remount

adb pull /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db settings.db

echo update secure set value = 1 where name = 'install_non_market_apps';|sqlite3 settings.db

adb push settings.db /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db

I found a post from attn1 that I have not tried that said:

"Put your phone in recovery mode. Go to advanced>mount system and mount data. Follow steps in post #13 (using the windows or linux code above) in cmd screen and you'll be fine." I am not comfortable in trying this approach as there are not enough specific step details and I don't want brick my phone.

I would really appreciate the correct detailed steps to enable non-market apps using the supplied code either from Windows or the Ubuntu Live CD. Thank you in advance.
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] winsettr:
You are rooted, so boot into recovery and create a nandroid backup; if something goes wrong when pushing settings.db and you cannot boot, restore your nandroid backup. Then, as attn1 stated, perform the same steps you mention above, but while the phone is in recovery and you have mounted the system and data folders.
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bctf1:
Thank you winsettr for your post. It looks like running the commands from recovery did indeed work. Titanium backup no longer reports the "your system settings will prevent you from restoring applications. To correct this go to your phone's settings, then in "applications" error.

However, I expected to see the settings\applications unknown sources check box check box and it is not there. I guess I will have to try side-loading an app to confirm that it will work.
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] winsettr:
I think that gui option would be part of the rom, a part that AT&T has removed... So yeah, see if side- loading works now.
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bctf1:
FYI, I am indeed able to side load now from an .apk copied to the sd card. However, I am not able to install from an internet link. Trying to do so generates a "your phone is not authorized" error message. :D
[HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] winsettr:
Until you get a custom rom running, I wouldn't worry too much. Sounds like you can get any app you want (just download internet apps to sd then install). There may be an additional setting in settings.db but that's beyond my knowledge...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Laynee1:
So, when i lock my phone, and when i try to wake up to unlock, it is really really slow sometimes (up to 10-15 seconds even)..

Is there any way to prevent this ( to decrease that wake up time ) ?

p.s. My phone wm and android roms, radio and kernel is shown in my signature :)

Cheers ppl and thanks in advance,

Laynee
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FerretAD:
The 'smartass' scaling defaults to 245mhz when the screens off.... Disable the smartass, then bump the frequency up when the screens off !
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Laynee1:
Ok, first of all thanks for swift and fast response..

Second, from your reply, it seems like i have to install setCpu, and do that in it? What freq to put when screen is off? Because last time i got those profiles set up in setCpu ( before i uninstalled it), they didnt work..

And last, will it affect my battery drainage alot ?

p.s. One more question ( i know im annoying :) ) : I got really slow download speed when downloading from Market.. any cure ?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
Huh, nor smartass nor underclocking in standby is respondible for slow wake up (well, maybe for a split second but definitely not the 10-15 seconds OP is talking about).

I haven't found any solution for this yet, but actually once you learn to only lock your phone when you know you won't be needing it the next 30 seconds, your problems are gone. (Unless you're using an old build/kernel, in that case you should just upgrade. New builds only lockup if you unlock shortly after locking.)

Slow market downloads is due to your sd card apparently. Either try with another one, or unmount SD card before starting the download.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] OrionCarl:
i always find using the 'pick up' key wakes the phone in less then 3 secs everytime for me
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gumataotao:
I'm my experience wake lag is caused by corruption of the SD card. It happens more often when I try to use higher class cards than the stock one. What always fixes it for me is running checkdisk in windows. It usually finds errors and after it fixes them and I reboot I get no wake lag for a while. Errors happen a lot less often for me when I stick to stock sandisk class 2 card. Hope this works for you.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] idevmag:
I found this recently on Desire HD, it takes 3-5 seconds to wake up (not using setcpu)

I am using cedesmith desire hd2 (beta) rom with 2.14.50_2 radio and energy (13-nov) winmo.

Most desire builds are ok (less than 1 sec :))

Hope to fix this ASAP

iDev
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pkchips:
The most you can do is try another microSD card, but the reality is that this is device-dependent. You've just been unlucky to get an HD2 that is slow to wake up.

I know this because I had an HD2 before which took around 5-10 seconds to wake up all the time. After I broke it, my insurance company replaced it.

My new HD2 wakes up instantly almost always.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Laynee1:
Well i forgot to mention one thing :

The slow wake up problem is not happening every time i try to unlock phone(its not that much often but when it happends im pissed off).

When it happends, buttons and screen are up, but screen is blank for 7-10 ( not 15 seconds i overreacted :) )..

So any help now ? :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pkchips:
hmmm my screen is only ever delayed by around 3 or 4 seconds e.g. when in the middle of installing software.

Only thing that might help is, as before, trying another microSD card or a different ROM/kernel.

The one I'm on is Mdeejay Clean Sense with hastarin 8.5.1. Try that and see if it's any better. If not, its either your microSD card or just your phone.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Laynee1:
Thanks dude :) Ill try and see whats happening.. Tell me, in mdeejay clean sense rom, do u have those cool fold and flying animations when going back or closing smt?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pkchips:
Nope. :) It doesn't
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Deleted member 2479225:
try formating your sd card delete any partition keep the whole card FAT32 and use a RAM build my lag is so much better by doing this :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] rtorbs:
Please can someone clarify about clockwork....

Is it permamant like Amon RA ? Can it be accessed via pwer + home (or similar)? or do you do everything through the clockwork app ?

I didnt use it on my Hero so am unsure how it works.....

cheers
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
This is my first Android phone, so I don't know about Amon Ra.

But with Clockwork recovery, you can boot the phone by holding down Volume Down and Power, then that gets you into HBOOT. Then you can select the option to go into recovery, which takes you into Clockwork. Or from within the ROM Manager app you can choose to reboot straight into Clockwork.

I don't know if there's a key sequence you can use to go straight from power off into Clockwork, or if you're forced to go through HBOOT.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rtorbs:
Thanks for that.....Have you tried holding power + home ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Not sure where "home" is on your previous phone, but holding power and the trackpad button put the phone into fastboot mode (with my engineering hboot, anyway).
[G2 and Desire Z General] rtorbs:
Its the little 'house' button.....:D

Its on both the Hero (old phone) and the Desire Z (new phone)
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
oh ok, that home button :D

It's a capacitive button on the DZ rather than a physical button, so I presumed it didn't do anything at boot up. Though I could be wrong.

Edit - just tried it and no, it didn't do anything on boot-up
[G2 and Desire Z General] rtorbs:
Id be interested to know if it does...at present i can boot directly to recovery which is ideal....it may be a feature of Amon RAs recovery and I know its early days yet for the Desire Z.....incidentley does anyone know if Amon RA is looking at providing a similar recovery to that of the Hero/desire ?

I find not having to use ADB ideal.....
[G2 and Desire Z General] rtorbs:
oh ok, that home button :D

It's a capacitive button on the DZ rather than a physical button, so I presumed it didn't do anything at boot up. Though I could be wrong.

Cheers for trying though :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddotpatel:
You mean ROM Manager right?... No you don't have to use that app to use the features of the recovery,... but I did use it to do the initial install of the recovery.

Think Stevie has answered everything else yeah.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rtorbs:
Sorry pal yeah I meant rom manager...but cheers for clearing that up....

Like I said, I previously only used amon RA and was looking for similar functionality but wasnt sure how clockwork worked
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddotpatel:
Don't apologise,.....

But yeah, its as close to Amon Ra as we gona get for now,... hopefully we will get a choice of custom recoveries in the future,.... everything was so straight forward with Amon Ra on the Hero enit.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Nighte:
Will the clockwork recovery still work if I uninstall the ROM Manager?
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddotpatel:
Yep, indeed it will.
[General Questions and Answers] ironhide707:
hey all,

I am a newbie in android development. I just wanted to know that is it possible to do driver development in android OS . If yes then please can you point me to the correct direction of where to find any suitable data regrading driver development in android. Actually i have to build a filter driver for android development and as a newbie to this beautiful OS, i really need to find out that if it is possible. Please guys will you help me????

Thanks.

Ironhide.
[General Questions and Answers] Senax:
developer dot android dot com

As a HTC wizzard it was easy to obtain this information;

http://developer.android.com/

Then go here;

http://developer.android.com/search.html#q=driver&t=0

Remember to install the SDK first :p

Hope this helps,
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BG Macster:
Hi People,

I know this is going to sound really stupid but it's got to be asked.

I know you can change the ring-tones to what ever you want but is there any was to change your message notification tone?

Like i said it's a stupid question.

Thanks for you help in advance.

Mark:confused::confused::confused:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3722:
Go to "sound" in settings and you'll see an option - "Notification sound"

If the audio file you want to select isn't showed there, create a "Notification" folder in the root of your SD (i.e. /sdcard/Notifications/)