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[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
The Fragmentation will get worse and worse until Google fixes it, or Android implodes.

Very simple.

Imagine if you bought a new computer, and you were stuck on Windows XP all the way until now... when you were finally granted access to Vista.
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
It is pretty clear that Google has it under wraps - most manufacturers don't even have the specs. So the likelyhood of our phone getting it when the specs have not been made public and no one else has it is zero.
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
Yeah, give us Froyo all ready.

See avatar!
[Captivate General] thedon809:
Yeah, fragmentation is bad. Want to hear about some fragmentation? The chrysler 300 is available in 9 trim levels, awd and rwd, with 4 different engines! Holy fragmentation batman :eek:.

:rolleyes:
[Captivate General] Kcarpenter:
ROFL

Ten Chars
[Captivate General] SiL3nTKiLL:
hahahah that would be freaking hilarious if they did htat
[Captivate General] saint168:
No freaking way they will do that. Samsung is in the business to make money, updating existing devices mean less people will buy their new phones. Count yourself lucky when you get Froyo.
[Captivate General] bames:
and maybe a unicorn will fly out of my ass.

sorry for the sarcasm.....but whats the point of pure speculation?
[Captivate General] startngate:
Nothing wrong with XP ... I still run it by choice ... ;)
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
Changed to what it should have read.
[Captivate General] shadow65781:
not gonna happen
[Captivate General] 1randomtask:
the way I see it, the Nexus S wont be terribly dissimilar to the current SGS series of handsets (from a hardware platform). Google wont buy into this "oh we'll get around to it" bull**** of source releases (they can't, it will be their lead dev platform).

So even if Samsung/AT&T continue to be ****house at releasing fw for the Captivate, it wont matter as much as it does now, because we will have source for a lot more stuff.
[Captivate General] bedwa:
+1

I really think with the remote possibility of similar hardware or at worst case scenario Samsung went with a dual core I think that they will use as much of the existing code as possible.... (It appears as if they may be alittle lazy in the coding dept. I've been trying to tinker with the i9000 headset issue and the difference seems to be alot of code added to the Captivate so that the headset hardware in the US worked like every other phone out there instead of the lazy way that Samsung first implemented it)

And if they are as lazy as above, we should have something that may be easier to port.... or at least somewhat easier to port. Especially with the progress that the CM6.1 SGS team is making as well with ditching the rfs system.... We'll get it soon enough.... not as fast as N1s, but fairly fast. :)
[Captivate General] 1randomtask:
Isn't RFS dead if you use a ext4/voodoo based kernel anyway? Dead as in, the phone can read ext4, we can just partition everything as ext4 and move along, nothing to see here.
[Captivate General] Kagoshema:
zero likelyhood of gingerbread this year

its the crazy sh!t samsung is pulling that makes me wonder if i shouldnt have gotten an aria(only other real android option on att)
[Captivate General] xiaoali:
Not sure I'd get the Aria, did it upgrade to 2.2 yet? It's also weaker and smaller than the Captivate. But I definitely agree, after seeing the speed of update and the GPS debacle.. not sure I'll get another Samsung handset again.

With AT&T though... there isn't exactly a wide range of selections.

EDIT: Them Windows 7 Mobile phones sure look tempting.. even then, I'd be eyeing the Samsung Focus.. -_-
[Captivate General] xredjokerx:
yeah.. im not going to get another samsung phone again. as much as i love the captivate, its only because of the developers and xda.
[Captivate General] Smallsmx3:
All this whining and crying....I want froyo. Boo hoo...I've had froyo running longer than I ever had eclair on my phone and if your waiting on an official release from att then your an idiot I say. Att will release froyo soon I'm sure and you'll be back on here crying about how crippled it is and how were not getting gingerbread ( and by that time well prob have leaks) all The leaks that are on xda are all functional and blow the doors off stock eclair as far as function and features so go flash your phones and be done with it already
[Captivate General] NOFSBIGE:
This is why I like my wp7 updates straight from microsoft! :)
[Captivate General] KonaZXIII:
Good for you buddy
[Captivate General] vikdmon:
Froyo 2.2.1 official is already out for samsung epic 4g. Hopefully captivate should be getting it soon. Sprint's pretty good at rolling out updates. At&T is a hog
[Captivate General] saint168:
I actually returned the Aria and now I think that might have been a mistake.
[Captivate General] xiaoali:
Which phone do you have? My brother has an upgrade immaterial dying to steal and get a Wp7 phone.
[Captivate General] NOFSBIGE:
I have the Surround... and i absolutely love it... the focus has a much better screen but i actually like the sound that the htc has out of the speaker and the kick stand lol.... I think if anything these devices are the iPhone killer... I love the captivate still but i cant see myself going back to it now that i have this beauty!
[Captivate General] arsinic:
+1 XDA FTW!!
[Captivate General] BL4zD:
My friend runs CM 6.1 RC2 on his aria. I don't think 2.2 is released stock, yet.

He said the ROMs are pretty paltry, too.

I think his aria looks like crap next to my captivate. I'm not sure why people are even contemplating that as an upgrade.
[Captivate General] TheNaturat:
I don't know why you guys care so much about Gingerbread - Froyo was a revolution with huge perfomanace improvements, MobileAP etc., but 2.3 includes mostly design changes and little tweaks - nothing really useful. Right now I'm very happy with my Axura CE RC1, perfectly stable, blazing fast, with great battery life, everything working, and good looking- what else could I want from Android device? Maybe dual-core cpu, and 1080p recording, but we won't get it just by OS upgrade :P
[Captivate General] sclRanger:
http://an.droid-life.com/2010/12/06..._medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Android-Life+

I'm not saying I believe it, just posting the link.
[Captivate General] phlunkie:
semi good news

Nexus S seems alot closer to the current GalaxyS than speculated.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/googles-nexus-s-product-page-goes-live/
[Captivate General] t-readyroc:
Similar hardware will hopefully mean we can rip ROMs & they may be easy to port... I'm so f'n hoping this...

Gingerbread overview video.
[Captivate General] shep211:
I read that my galaxy tablet will have 2.3 by early q1 so the are working on it. Not sure why the tablet is getting updates so much faster.
[Captivate General] sremick:
Got to love the irony of someone who struggles with basic English and grammar calling everyone else "idiots".

"Functional"? Sure. Bug-free and issue-free? Hardly. They are quirky, they're based on different hardware, some things... sometimes important things... don't work, and there are exponentially more people complaining about how a hacked ROM has screwed up their phone than there are people complaining about being unhappy with the stock 2.1.

If you're content to deal with the issues with the hacked ROMs and accept the risk that comes with playing that game, fine... but stop insulting everyone else who doesn't like to play Russian Roulette with their phone. Some of us actually depend on these things and need them to function and have all their features actually work.
[Captivate General] gtg465x:
This. The ONLY difference is the curved display (which shouldn't make a difference from a software perspective). We should be good to go! I imagine we'll have a stock Gingerbread port by the end of the year. Probably just a matter of changing a couple things in the kernel like the reoriented kernels we use for i9000 ROMs.
[Captivate General] IpodLover77:
i cant help but feel that samsung will somehow shaft us from 2.3
[Captivate General] shep211:
What about partitioning? Im sure google did not use rfs. Wont we have to repartition then install rom?
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
There are more differences:

iNand instead of MoviNand

FFC (captivate doesn't have)

NFC

The Nand issue could make for a lot of work - FFC is probably no big deal. NFC - hard to say as we don't know how deep it is implemented.
[Captivate General] xiaoali:
Haha. That would require someone over at Samsung to come to their senses.
[Captivate General] goob1284:
If you want froyo get a rom that's based off of the leaked version or the gt-i9000? Duh. Works like a charm.
[Captivate General] joedon3:
I'm not so sure about that. Samsung won't let us get away without TouchWiz I don't think..... and it will take a while for Sammy to do that.
[Captivate General] avgjoegeek:
The Epic finally has their Froyo goodness. Makes me believe it is the carriers taking their sweet time with releasing it.

And.. could be that Samsung still doesn't have a clue. Either way.. here it is Dec. and still no update. :(
[Captivate General] ryusen:
Bad Analogy Alert!

1) MS doesn't provide those upgrades for free.

2) most lay people don't upgrade their OS.. they just wait till it's time to buy a new computer.
[Captivate General] stuff:
Would be the best christmas present, if Samsung jumped us to Gingerbread, overpassing Froyo altogether.

Either way, I think we will see a port to our Captivates. Giving us gingerbread, and a happy feeling inside. :)
[Captivate General] rwj5279955:
Sprint community forums administrator confirmed the release was a leak. But whats really making me scratch my head, is why Samsung announces Nexus S running Gingerbread when they have literally millions of outdated devices that have the hardware requirements to run the newest firmware and probably beyond.

I hope hardware manufactures realize the community that is out there that make leaked releases possible. Because waiting on them to efficiently update is like waiting on your wife to lose that baby weight. Or waiting for a bag of money to appear on your porch.
[Captivate General] SlappyMcGee:
This made my laugh thanx. ROFL. :D
[Captivate General] malicenfz:
Man I'd be happy with just an official Froyo, I plan on getting a Nexus S anyways.
[Captivate General] SkitchBeatz:
I hate when people say things like that... its creating hope that wasn't there before. At least the jump to 2.3 isn't as great as 2.1 to 2.2 was.
[Captivate General] BL4zD:
because investors/manufacturers pay their bills, not end-users.
[Captivate General] jpinks:
Well I for one WILL NOT buy another Samsung phone. This is just plain craziness. I have rooted my phone to get rid of ATT bloatware and am just about ready to return this phone for GPS crappiness alone. (Lost in East St Louis for 2 hours without a gun aint fun) I would love just some type of official statement or a f*** you from ATT so I could just go over and cancel all our company accounts and move to a new cellular service. Samsung support is a joke as I tried to get help from them on GPS and that was talking to a brick wall.
[Captivate General] BL4zD:
I don't understand your mentality...if your GPS doesn't work and you rely on it at that level, then you should return the phone for a replacement or something else. It makes no sense to keep a product and hack on it while simultaneously complaining that it isn't working out for you.
[Captivate General] jpinks:
See thats the ATT part of the problem. They got it to lock on in the ATT store so they say No Problem with this phone AHHH DUHHHHH. Even though I pointed it out to them that its a known issue and I didnt have the time to push the issue after waiting 45 min for them to even talk to me
[Captivate General] BL4zD:
If it locked on in the store then the GPS isn't broken...if it won't lock on in your car that's due to interference not a hardware failure.
[Captivate General] jpinks:
It wont lock on every time or every day. Some days it flat refuses sits forever til it gives up 3/4 of the time. Then sometimes it locks on then can loose lock for no apparent reason in car or out.
[Captivate General] goob1284:
That's why God invented a garmin or tomtom
[Captivate General] jsgiv:
You obviously haven't used / experienced the wonderment of a "functioning" Captivate GPS. :p

I used to get a "lock" in my house, turn the device off, go outside (clear sky and everything) and it wouldn't lock for 10-20 minutes - standing and waiting, with no lock at all.

Then I'd get in my vehicle later that day - it'd suddenly "lock" again and I was able to use it via the Google Navigation, albeit, in a very limited fashion (i.e. traveling down a major interstate - everything would be fine then all of a sudden - it'd "jump" (or teleport - your choice) off of the highway, to the subdivision near the highway and start giving me directions on how to get out of the subdivision back to the highway).

My friend, who has a year+-old original Motorola Droid, mind you, has a perfectly functioning GPS without any problems (we did a side-by-side comparison almost for a full day - which made me firmly convinced that the Captivate is suffering from hardware issues - not software).

Add to that the on-going random shutdowns occurring on my unit the following week, promptly forced the hand and I went and traded the Captivate in for my Samsung Focus.

By comparison, the Focus has GPS locks within 5-10 seconds, and I've never had a random shutdown occur ever since I've purchased it. It just "works" as advertised.

All said and done - I'm firmly convinced that the Galaxy S line is suffering from hardware/incompatibility issues overall (another friend of my has the Samsung Vibrant - same GPS issues). I sincerely doubt that 2.2 (or 2.3 for that matter - not that Gingerbread will come to this device by way of Samsung/ATT anytime soon - if ever) will bring any real positive resolution to any of the many issues currently noted here on these forums.
[Captivate General] BL4zD:
yeah, I obviously haven't used my captivate's GPS *rolls eyes*

...or maybe I practice pattern recognition when something repeatedly malfunctions so I return it for one that functions properly rather than becoming upset and confused over an inanimate object.
[Captivate General] jsgiv:
I did that too - after the 3rd failed unit - I gave up.
[Captivate General] bames:
really?

a stationary lock is only one part of gps. A gps should be able to track movement and provide tracking during navigation. The gps (i still believe its software issues) has serious flaws.

Even with stationary locks you get flaws. I have had instances where i get solid locks on 10 solid satellites saying 10-15 meter accuracy and in my tracks it will show your position off by more than 200 meters.

Sitting in my drive way i watched my location float around my entire subdivision even though i never move a foot. Axura rom is the only rom i have used that remedied this to any extent and actually gave me pretty solid turn by turn nav tracking which is why is still think its a firmware/driver issue.
[Captivate General] BL4zD:
no wonder devs are leaving this site in droves...

...how do you figure you can assess whether something is malfunctioning at a hardware level when you're using leaked, buggy, in-development software?

Get a grip...I don't feel like responding to these silly comments anymore so knock yourselves out whining about "hardware" issues when you apparently don't even know how to isolate a variable.
[Captivate General] jsgiv:
I did "isolate" the variable - 3 units - all with failed or "spotty" GPS functionality, all with random shutdowns. ALL were with the STOCK firmware/OS - no rooting, no hacking, no modding, nothing. I tend to believe that unit presented should work as advertised.

There's PLENTY of threads here that go over this in detail. Apparently you haven't experienced these issues because you either a) don't use the GPS functionality, etc., as often as others here (i tend to use mine in my phone almost daily), or b) you're one of the rare people here that have a "perfect" unit. To that end, I say congrats :)

All said and done -Captivate is a great phone - on paper - it just didn't work for me (and apparently others on this same forum).
[Captivate General] tr8rjohnk:
I rarely post (search works wonders :) ), but I just couldn't help myself; are you freaking serious? Have you not bothered to "notice" the countless threads/posts on gps issues with this phone?

A device of this caliber shouldn't be plagued with such problems and if it is, it should be fixed promptly.
[Captivate General] panflute:
I had the Surround and returned it for the Captivate. Nice sound and build but few apps...has a very long way to go. On the other hand this phone continues to amaze me. Give me flash 10.1 and Ill be pretty happy.
[Captivate General] rmcsc:
Well, that's no fix. That's like switching any "old" Éclair with an Ngage.
[Captivate General] Rogue9:
LMAO!!!

Thats what I've been thinking this whoile time and the GPS on my cappy actually works.

+1
[Captivate General] saint168:
That's because Samsung want all of us to throw our Galaxy S phone into the landfill and buy the "new" and "improved" Nexus S. It's all about money.
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
A company that would sacrifice customer service for profits? So it ain't so!! :rolleyes:
[Captivate General] rye&ginger:
If you are joking fine, otherwise this lacks a lot of insight.

Samsung wants to sell phones, and the Nexus S is just on ONE carrier and only will work on some providers. It will not work on the 2 biggest USA providers, or the 3 big Canadian providers, etc...

But they want us all to buy only the Nexus S, while the Galaxy S line is nearly the same phone and likely brings them comparable income.

And lets ignore that the obvious strategy has been to get a Galaxy S phone on pretty much every carrier. But no, Samsung now wants to box itself in with T-Mobile.

Also, carriers love custom phones, since they can add apps that bring them more money (ringtones and music stores, private app store, etc.) and also lock out features they want to charge more for (mobile AP/tethering, etc.). They can then claim this phone is 'exclusive!' even though its 99% like the other carriers' Galaxy S offering.

There are some logical reasoning failures in this thread. :rolleyes:
[Captivate General] alphadog00:
I am curious how T-Mo is going to handle all the Vibrant customers that just bought the phone 5 months ago. Maybe that is the plan, create phone envy and hope many early adopters will buy the next newest model.
[Captivate General] dualityofone:
There are considerations to make when speculating on whether or not the Captivate will get the Gingerbreadz soon. Business wise, it still makes sense to support the Captivate as well as the Nexus: 1.) Sammy has to share profits with Google on the GOOGLE PHONE

2.) Nexus S wont do 3G on AT&T

3.) Though similar, Nexus S has new hardware (screen, credit card chip, new GPS??!?!)

There is plenty of market share for both phones especially when you consider that money is made via contracts, not at hardware. (ref. Apple/AT&T deal: SPOILER... Apple banks from every contract you sign with AT&T.)

Since samsung has been silent regarding Froyo since their "Late November" delivery date has past, i think its safe to assume "official" froyo is DOA and we're expecting Gingerbread. What strikes me as interesting is the complete Froyo "Leak" which DesignGears introduced months ago. Was this the way Samsung got Froyo to us? Will we recieve a similar Gingerbread payload?

The bottom line is we'll just have to wait and see.
[Captivate General] avgjoegeek:
Meh - the new Nexus S was probably forced to go to T-Mobile - just like the original Nexus - I try not to think what big corporations such as T-Mobile/Google/Samsung think.

The GPS issue can be alleviated (not resolved) by applying the Jupiter GPS fixes - or running a ROM that appears to fix GPS issues. Currently I'm running the latest version of Assonance with an i9000 kernel and I get GPS locks and it works about 90%.

Still having issues with it being VERY "jittery" and applications like google sky still doesn't work properly. So I still think hardware is pooched.

As to Gingerbread being on our phones? My guess it will be the XDA community that will have a working port before we ever (as in never) see an "official" gingerbread update for these phones. Samsung/ATT is completely clueless when it comes to customer support or brand loyalty.

This probably will be my last Samsung phone unless of course the new Nexus S is the "holy grail" of phones and like.. works?
[Captivate General] mobileseq:
I doubt that. We might get 2.2 if were lucky. I realized that after I got this phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] thisisspeedy:
I think this will be great for rooted phones. If you have an auto url shortener for sms emails and more without hassle.

Who likes that idea? I'm no dev so someone work on that please.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SFVDan:
Quick question: Is anyone else having trouble with the WiFi Tether for Root Users and/or the built-in hotspot on Cyanogenmod 6.1 RC4? I've wiped, reflashed, fixed permissions and nothing seems to make it work. I know I'm missing something that's obvious to everyone else. BTW, both work fine on the stock rom with root & bacon bits.

I gotta be doing something stupid. Can someone help?

Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ddgarcia05:
you'll get a better/faster response if you ask in the CM rom's thread.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cpgifford:
cm6.4 includes a custom version of wifi tether therefore it causes problems with the wifi for root
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackknightavalon:
Use Barnacle.
[Galaxy 3 General] precurse:
Has anyone here flashed their i5800 or i5800Ls from Canada/US with Froyo yet?

Everyone who's posting seems to be from Europe.

And what frequencies do you use? 850/1900? or 1700/2100, etc.
[Galaxy 3 General] precurse:
Just updated my TELUS (Canadian) i5800L to 2.2 Froyo JP9..

All seems to be working perfectly for now.

Awesome!
[Galaxy 3 General] LePeR1898:
Currently using JPB and so far i've only noticed "My Files" force closes on me.. seems ok for the most part
[Galaxy Tab General] LordFuzzy024:
I got my Sprint Galaxy Tab today, Rooted it without problems, started installing my apps. Love the device. But now i'm not sure whats going on. In little less than an hour i watched my internal storage go from 1.4 gb to less than 400 megs. Now i know i installed a few apps but i did not install a gb of stuff nor have i downloaded any media. I've tried searching the device for large files but i can't find anything that would be causing this. I've gone through all of the apps i've installed and most have cache and data of 0 bytes since i haven't really got a chance to use it. I have Advanced Task Killer, Memory Booster, and Cache Mate and none of them find anything to remove. I'm at a total lose right now. Anyone else seeing this?

Update 1: The only way to stop it is to restart the tab. I do not notice any one program that is running causing it.

Update 2: I'm down to 270megs i finally had to turn it off and back on again.
[Galaxy Tab General] paulshields:
How did you root it? This is something that happens if rooted with the clockworkmod recovery script in this thread (I know this because it happened to myself and was a bugger to remove).
[Galaxy Tab General] LordFuzzy024:
Thats exactly what i did. How did you get it removed? Did you have to unroot and wipe? At this point i dont care. Woke up this morning and i have 0 bytes free of internal storage.

UPDATE: It was Clockwork Mod causing the issue. I uninstalled it, wiped my device and all it better now. DO NOT USE CLOCKWORK RECOVERY.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bryanfritz1:
Great little tutorial. +5 for a little extra effort.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jprocha101:
Why thank you
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
Great job. Would you be willing to share your theme? I have been looking for a black theme like yours. Following your process with change the backdrop only correct.