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[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Only a few people would agree with u, including me into that, and I'm sure Jeff would agree that performance wise it is sufficient with 2.1. I personally have no issues with my X10 either, however, the number race is always an issue. Let's say if 2.3 is the exact same thing as 2.2, but just a new number. They would still bash and say we need 2.3 now, not 2.2. However, if they would look on the functions they need daily, they don't even need something that advanced. Users who are tech enthusiastic is only a very small percentage of all users, which are people in forums and such like here. Not that it's a bad thing, it drives them to produce something productive, however, there will always be another group of users who are tech enthusiasts but rather than doing something productive, they would just voice out their complaint. All we hear at Customer Support are the voices from this group of users. SE is doing their best to accommodate all users, but sometimes these voices goes to the point where it's too far.

However, I will have to disagree on the account that the N1 and G1 is still updated. You have to consider that those phones are supported directly under Google. They are not even touched or supported by the manufacturer themselves(HTC). We have to account on other brands instead, not with N1 or G1.

Regarding the phone in-call volume, I'm sure the development has gotten the message, and they still do have more time to fix before the next update in January. BTW, the next major update is only about a month away and it's not finalized yet, that means there's still time for the fix to be implemented.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
if i find out anyone from this forum has decided to hassle the Sony Ericsson team. then i will be issuing warnings

also if this thread continues to go way off topic then ill be forced to close it.
[XPERIA X10 General] kylec:
Agree. Spamming SE is childish and useless.

Also agree with the other posts saying the phone us fine. We dont honestly need 2.3. Sure it would be cool, but the phone functions as it should already and mine does it well.

@bongd if every x10 at rogers has low in call volume, then its probably a reception problem with your carrier
[XPERIA X10 General] fershox:
X10a from Perú also with lol volume in almost everything call ringtones everything
[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
If you have a complaint go to the right thread, there are threads regarding low in-call volumes that you can go to.

you do not have the right to come here and complain about irrelevant topic and hassling SE representative.

Jeff is trying to make an effort to communicate with us and that is appreciated.

It's very nice to see that SE communicate with their costumers directly.

I even contact him sometimes through Tweeter and he really helped me a lot :cool:

totally agree
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
I really hope we get 2.3 instead of 2.2, they already got it working on the "psp phone" aka Zeus Z1:

http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/2148/

So there shouldn't be very hard to make a X10 version of their "customized 2.3" :)
[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Amazing

and yes it should be easier to release 2.3 for X10 after the release of "Zeus" but it all depends on SE point of view
[XPERIA X10 General] batman_112:
Very Impressive! :D

Definitely hope too see 2.3 on my X10!
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
Jeezzooo... Is that real?

I love the thickness of it, as Im not a big fan of these ultra slim phones coming out next year.

I think 2.2 on the X10 would be very welcome, anyone expecting 2.3 is just being ridiculous. IMO
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
and I've mentioned it MANY times not to believe MR for their Anzu review. 2.3 is coming straight off the new devices in Q1. There's no need for more updates. Did people believe me? NO. What a turn off :\

Regarding 2.2, there will not be anything regarding it for the X10 family. SE did not even touch upon it during development. It went from 2.1 straight to 2.3. Therefore, if the light of hope is still shining, we MIGHT have a taste of 2.3. However, like I said, it is 99% unlikely due to the new substitute models...
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
Sorry, I won't derail the thread any further. I just wanted to ***** a couple of times in hopes others would join in. I have no other recourse and it provides much more leverage for this particular challenge. SE is conveniently having technical issues on their blog any time a valid complaint like this is pitched.

Don't worry. This just goes to show that they can't demonstrate any accountability and has proved my point. I will harass them outside the forums now that I've been able to ***** publicly. :cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] elsler:
No its the same with my phone in Australia and i have sent it back for repair only to be told they wont fix it as i have 2.1 on it and its not from optus so needless to say i went and bought a decent phone and the x10 is now a nicce paper weight for my desk
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
Yeah well thats my point, this place isnt for that. If you want to ***** dont bring it here. and due to other issues ive had with people pissing off SE i will be less than tolerant
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
Did you take it into optus or a S.E repair centre directly?

Debranding your phone shouldn't void your warranty, unless it's rooted, since you are using SE services to update the phone.

I had an X10 with a dodgy menu button which was Optus branded, I debranded it and when I took it back for a replacement they swapped it for a new one with no issues. The store had to send it back to a SE repair centre for approval firsts though and I did not deal with Optus at all.
[XPERIA X10 General] kmilof:
there's any work around to fix the low call sound?, i have a Chilean x10, and that's the only things that annoy me, hope someone can give me a hint on that, or if any fix exist.

:D thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
Unfortunately there's nothing right now. This is why I make obnoxious and irate posts about it lol
[XPERIA X10 General] PhonerX:
@unknown13x

If I understand correctly from the previous info that was available, 2.1-update 2 is also about backporting some 2.2 features to 2.1 or am I wrong?
[XPERIA X10 General] Tony_C:
Hi Jeff,

I have an AT&T X10a, no I am not going to ask the release date. Just out of curiosity I have been looking for a CDA (/Country Code/EMMA Sales List ?) list that shows this model. All the ones I've seen end in June, before the AT&T release. Is there an updated one that can be publicly shared?
[XPERIA X10 General] skyleth:
i hope just to get full adobe flash support, not matter what version of android
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
No, 2.2 features will not be ported back to 2.1 update-2. It will have its own kick to it. SE is revising its UXP, and from what I was informed, it is quicker, but the most important part is it looks alot nicer. I think i've mentioned it before in the update-1 forum that Timescape widget is probably one of the most important one. It now auto updates right in the front, now I don't know how many will actually use it but yeah, that's one. Mediascape will get revamped too, more UI customizations along with Horizontal view now. Camera will go through more changes, and Video will be added another feature :) These are the major upgrades, I have no details on the rest about volume fixes or not. My scope is just the surface of the update, not minor details. Will let you know if I get the update early again, will preview for u guys some more :)

P.S. Please bare in mind, this update was a while back, more features MIGHT get added, but this is what I can confirm that changes in update-2
[XPERIA X10 General] karun11:
I hope the minsi and the X8 also get the update to 2.2, with the new improved uxp 4 corner interface of course
[XPERIA X10 General] Jeff-SonyXperiaSupport:
Good Morning,

This thread appears to be winding down and I don't want this post to restart the conversation, but I did want to clear up the final pieces:

We have ALL got the message.

Here is our official statement for 2.1 on AT&T: http://www.facebook.com/SEUSA?v=app_134707329918074 more information will be release there when available

I'm not sure, but I think many XDAers are in the USA, so I thought this would be of value.

For the future: I will be around when I can. The best way to reach me is on Twitter @SEAnswers. I will pop in if I can.
[XPERIA X10 General] batman_112:
Hi Jeff,

Is there any news regarding Arabic support for the X10 in the coming update? Thanks.
[XPERIA X10 General] rogem_kk:
And don't you forget it! He he. Seriously though, compared to all the other phones I've had, this one has the lowest in call volume of them all.
[XPERIA X10 General] skyleth:
anything about the "useful" flash for the camera?
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
I'd like to have 2.2 on my X10, too. But the phone is very fast with 2.1, so we don't really need 2.2. 2.1 with JIT is fast enough, at least for me. The X10 will get multitouch in Q1 2011, then it will be perfect (for me).

The only thing we need 2.2 is to show our friends, who say the X10 sucks, that it's better (in benchmarks) than their device xD. For example the Desire gets around 1200-1300 points in Quadrant with 2.2 and the X10 almost 2600 points with the 2.2 custom ROM.

@ Jeff:

Thanks that you keep us updated
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
From my memo, it will bi-directionally support Arabic (whatever that means).

Only big features are told up to this point, no info on that.
[XPERIA X10 General] cytokine:
gsmarena.com reports Q2 update to Froyo for X10 is coming -

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_working_on_froyo_for__xperia_x10_coming_in_q2-news-2122.php
[XPERIA X10 General] Tony_C:
Just a copy of post #1 on this thread.
[XPERIA X10 General] batman_112:
Bi-directional, means from right-to-left and vice-versa. As Arabic, Hebrew and other Semitic languages are written/read from right-to-left unlike the Latin based languages that are written/read from left-to-right.

Do you have a source you can share please? Thanks! :)
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
I do have my source, but can't really share since it's a whole document that I cannot reveal it obviously. It just says Bi-directional support including Arabic, Hebrew, and Farsi. Just mark my words for it :)

To tell you guys the truth, X10 series may live longer than I initially thought. The next version is the 2.1 update, however SE planned it all the way to 3.0 (This is NOT corresponded to the Android core version, just SE's way of keeping track of updates for its product). From what I'm seeing, 1.0 to 2.0 update is a major platform update (From 1.6 to 2.1). Next is a same platform update hence the 2.1 update naming, but the X10's scope is all the way to 3.0. So I might still have some hopes for more platform update for the X10 series :) Who knows, we might see Gingerbread vanilla on our X10 :D DO NOT mark my words for this one, just a guess
[XPERIA X10 General] batman_112:
Alright, I will hold you accountable! LOL :D

Thanks for the info.
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
Cool, thanks for the information.

So the changes are good that we'll have 3.0 on our X10's?
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Like i said, the 3.0 does not denote the Android core version, just a way SE is keeping track of its update. It was their plan, so I have no info if they scrapped the plan or not. However, for having something that far, there's still a high chance it still exists on the timeline. Though having so brings up questions such as what about the new models? There's alot of overlaps with the new products and the X10 in terms of specification, and keeping the X10 on the market is a risk to the new models. However, removing it would not make sense with the 3.0 naming. So it can go both ways, new models to enjoy fresh Android 2.3, or stay with X10 and not enjoy new models...I don't know what to pick :p
[XPERIA X10 General] Tjotte:
Maby they will follow an iphone-type-of-line and release new better faster hardware but try to keep all devices on the same OS. It's just a thought, but apple surely don't sell less new phones even though the old ones get the same updates, newer is always more fun!
[XPERIA X10 General] qwer23:
This would be just great! Couldn't care less about new hardware for the next few years (thanks to xda my phone is tweaked like hell ^^). The update philosophy is the one and only thing other manufacturers should learn from Apple. But the only thing they actually learned so far from them, is locking up devices -.-

btw. i honestly don't believe SE to do so, but it's a great idea :(
[XPERIA X10 General] Tony_C:
Update to 2.1 firmware

Jeff,

There is a report that there is an update to the 2.1 release, http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Sony-Ericsson/Update-Sony-Ericsson-X10-2-1-update/td-p/515805

This upgrade offers –

•Bluetooth File Transfer, for sharing music, photos and contacts

•Social Phonebook – to link contacts with their Facebook profile picture.

•Access multiple e-mail accounts all through one phone.

•Say goodbye to those ‘save’ or ‘delete’ decisions with extended back-up for music, films, apps and messages.

Is this a general update to all 2.1 versions? Does it require a total new install?

Thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] karun11:
@unknown13x

Any idea about the 2.1x update for the minis and the x8? whats new and the changes to uxp-four corner interface? :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
the mini should be out the same time as the biggy. Don't know about X8. The UI will remain the same, just plug-ins, apps, performance that will change. It's already rock solid at the moment IMO.
[XPERIA X10 General] fknpwned:
No official Android 2.2 Froyo Update for X10 series...

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Translation:
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
Oh no =(

So we'll have to wait till the 2.21 custom rom is bugless.

But unknown13x hast the information, that there'll be more updates. It's confusing.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
All very nice but..................

Mine will be gone (sadly). I can't use it as a phone for a well documented reason ;)

Already looking longingly at my old 980i............. :eek:

Come on Jeff, extract the digit.

Sony Ericsson

(The Land of) Make.Believe :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
I never said once that it'll be a 2.2 update. I just said there's a chance of a core update(to which version I don't know), but it is up to SE's marketing team to what extent they want the X10 to go to. The initial plan is much farther than I thought, however, there's no new details regarding it lately, which means it may or may not have been scrapped. My details only refers to the internal naming, by no means does it say what Android version it is going to. It's just my own speculation. The only way we'll know is after this December 9th event coming, then things should be more clear on SE's direction. Cheers :o
[XPERIA X10 General] hamed1297:
i think if if thay are wise they should make it clear,because in this way thay can give hope for those people who wants to buy it.

if not no one will go for it.
[XPERIA X10 General] karun11:
Thanks for replying. The leaked roadmap did mention an improved 4 corner interface,some changes perhaps?

Any idea when the update will be outed?
[XPERIA X10 General] saviopts:
X10 from Brazil also with low in-call volume. Even had to use a friend´s phone to make a call once. That was very embarassing, since this is supposed to be a high-end peice of equipment.
[XPERIA X10 General] saintfalcon:
I want *at least* 2.2 official upgrade from SE

I'm a X10 mini pro user that is frustated for being out of disk space for so many times.

my x10 mini pro doesn't have 12GB internal space as S-G-Tab does, it's just 212 MB and so small moreover after SE 2.1 upgrade of synch all my facebook friends with phone contacts that eats up 10MB of data

Yes, there is App2SD application that said to help, but i wouldn't want to re-format my SD card filled with my junk, i want it to be officially installed to SD card.

Multi touch is fun, unless i do gaming, i don't think i need that so much :)

16K display is.........err......not needed by me so far *it's enough for me, unless we're talking about make out the best of our handheld*

just stating my opinion and wishing.. really wishing there's an update to AT LEAST Froyo some time soon
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
About a month away :)
[XPERIA X10 General] karun11:
@unknown13x

Thanks. Looking forward to it.

Btw..this is a bit OT but relevant fr mini nd x8 users.

LG optimus users asks LG whether they can get an update to 2.3.

LG responds saying that " the minimum

requirements for Gingerbread require 1

GHz processor," hence , no update ' s in the

cards .

Well , Android lead Dan Morrill took to

Twitter to drop some knowledge , saying

"there 's no hard minimum processor

requirement for Gingerbread. .. trust me,

if there were I' d know."

Dan Morrill @ morrildl ( Twitter)

mobile.twitter.com/morrildl

Android Open Source & Compatibility Tech

Lead .

Are there any RAM reqs then? If not, then technically the minis and x8 can get 2.3.

your thoughts?:-)
[XPERIA X10 General] sbdragon89:
You know, i dont know why SE doesnt release a BETA version 2.2 to the XDA team,n thats what motorola did with there version of development site, thats how they got rid of allot of bugs too!

Personaly sending it to the global market to do testing on peple who WANT to play around with it, should be allowed, with the user allowing feed back and crash reports to be sent, that way in reaserch purpose's you'll end up with a much BIGGER testing group of users from around the world to add on to there in house group. Its a win win, and if they worryed about software rip off to other divisions, make it so that only the main developers get it here, once |SE happy with them letting it loose to the public for testing then so be it, but right now SE is far behind, Yes i could upgrade with SEUS to 2.1, but every device that had 2.1 has failed over, release 2.2 with speed improvements and bug fix's and other things, and release 2.3 later with all hardware bonus's. instead of trying to test HW now to add into 2.2, its just my 2c piece but yea those are my thoughts on this.
[XPERIA X10 General] dejannn:
hi can anybode can help me to upgrade my xperia 2.1 to 2.2 version.

I am new on android os and i read lot of posts and i am litle confusion :)

If samobody have link how to upgrade.because is so meny post and i dont know what is best

dejannn@t-com.me please sent on email

thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] anders260:
Hi

Do you have the New Timescape widget om your X10, i belive i saw one of your screen shot just before we got our 2.1 update?

Care to show some more of it?
[XPERIA X10 General] rogem_kk:
There is no fully working 2.2 version for the X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] saintfalcon:
not yet :)

keep the hopes high mate :)
[XPERIA X10 General] dejannn:
how to root on 2.2 xperia x10
[XPERIA X10 General] saintfalcon:
First, official firmware release from SE is 2.1 update 1 -- there's rumor but not official regarding 2.2 for X10

If you insist on getting 2.2 for x10, there should be some custom rom available here on this forum, try search function.

hope it helps
[XPERIA X10 General] karun11:
@unknown13x

Any further news on the upcoming 2.1 based update? :-)
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Not yet, the firmware is still going through further development. It's not out of testing yet, so I cannot take a look. Plus, we're busy with the new products coming up, so we won't be looking too much on the current handsets at the moment.
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
The one with multi touch?

And were there any news about 2.2 or 2.3 updates for the X10 on the event at 9th of december?
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Yes, the one with MT should be out with the next big update coming up. I doubt it will come out of testing anytime before new years as we only have a few weeks before going to holidays :D

The event on the 9th had nothing to do with me. Those are meant for certain presses and interested industries to look at the technology/platform of the Zeus, though that's not the only thing it has under its sleeve :p
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Can you tell them that right now I sometimes need up to 32 swipes to get across 5 homescreens? Its really frustrating

1.6 was wayy better in terms of responsiveness
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
@ unknown13x:

Cool, hopefully you're right. That would be great.
[XPERIA X10 General] endariel:
yeah... i don't think it's a good way to apologize...

they should have released froyo months ago, how do they expect customers to be satisfied getting 1-year-old updates? -.-"
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
Well... At least SonyEricsson's updates don't fry the phone's internals. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
fyi, i never mentioned anything about 2.2. I have not heard anything regarding it, so I will only confirm up to the next update guys :)
[XPERIA X10 General] karun11:
So basically the next update will be based on 2.1.

Can you find out what's new for the minis and X8?

Their updates should be out along with the one for the X10 I suppose?

Thanks for reolying.
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Yes, the next one is based on 2.1 core. It should be an OTA update since its not a complete core upgrade, just the interface/apps that changes. For the smaller handsets, mostly just Timescape and some UI/performance enhancements. I don't know what Mochi is, but it seems to be the core of the next update.
[XPERIA X10 General] batman_112:
You had mentioned something (maybe on this thread) that Arabic support will be included in the coming update. You still stand by your statement? :)
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
yes, that is what I was informed. They may change it, but I stand to what I say, and don't mind sharing the proof AFTER the release of the update, even if I'm wrong ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] karun11:
@Unknown13x

Mochi..sounds interesting :-)

Some questions....

1.The OTA updates are available on SEUS and pc companion too rite? My country has pathetic data transfer speeds:-P

So we can expect it in Jan...not far!

2.Any idea what's gonna be new in Timescape? Can we now comment and reply right from within timescape?

3.We x8 and mini users didn't even get the scrolling text update to timescape..saw that on my brother's x10 and its much more usable.

4. The leaked document said 'improvements to four corner UI'. Any idea what's that?

Lastly, do give us some screenshots on what's new,just like last time, as soon as u get ur hands on it :-)

Thanks for replying!
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
Nice info :)

About mochi, from what i found on google it seems to be some kind of japanese rice thing,but i also read that it's also the name of a type of frozen yogurth or ice cream...so...:rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] mattiL:
You mean like FROzen YOghurt ?
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Ummm... Mochi and Mochi ice-cream are not really the same. As for the latter, it's just ordinary ice-cream encased with the mochi skin.

So, it's not a yoghurt actually. Though there might be yoghurt varieties invented now, but in no way is Mochi ice-cream related to Frozen Yoghurt. And frozen yoghurts, I believe, are served in cups, whereas mochi ice-creams look like one of those Nonya cakes.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
If SE are anything like the organisation that I work for then Mochi is proably a code name, to throw any leaks off the scent... but internet searches reveal that mochi does have a lot of links with FROYO.. as someone said.. Froyo encased in something else.. ie SE wrap around.. (I'm speculating.. but you never know)!
[XPERIA X10 General] johndub71:
I updated my wildfire to 2.2 today, and the only new stuff is facebook notifications on the bar, and an improved gmail. It does seem slightly faster and graphics smoother.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Google voice actions
[XPERIA X10 General] karun11:
Also,any news of something different coming to the X8? The 4 corner UI is boring on a 3 inch screen:-P
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Sorry, nothing on the X8. I really don't have much more info about the new update from what I have already said. The only thing left is to get the update and I can preview it to you guys, so just wait up guys :)