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[Vibrant Themes and Apps] the3dman:
It has been posted: http://xdaforums.com/show...48#post9576448
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Five0nIt:
The link is down..
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] the3dman:
Sorry Here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=846285&page=4

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[Vibrant Themes and Apps] kennyp987:
Vibrant 4g plan?

4g plan?

Vibrant + sXe V3.1 + OCLF
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] bigmike69:
The Web plans were renamed they are still the same at T-Mobile you will only recieve full 4g speeds in 4g areas and on 4g phones.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] reksp13:
How do you get a 4g plan on a 3g phone? I did notice in the Flashable Stock JK6 rom sombionix posted has both 3g and 4g icons. I thought you had to have a 4g phone to get 4g service.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] OuncE718:
I'm thinking the samething. 4g would be based on hardware radio and 4g connection.

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[Vibrant Themes and Apps] DontJoinTheDarkSide:
You could change the icon to say 10g and you would still never get 4g speeds. Vibrant doesn't support that speed.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jayprime:
Vibrant hardware only supports up to 7mb/s

Fear the beard...
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dima25:
Technicly Speaking Vibrant does support so Called "4G" speed, since its not 4g on Tmobile, 4G its either Wimax (sprint has it) or LTE , T-Mobile has only HSPA+ , so whats HSPA+ its the Same HSDPA network which is Considered to be 3.5G, and since its HSDPA I got speed on Vibrant in Alabama 4.7MBit Per second on speed test, 3G Doesnt support that speed because 3G is UMTS its max 3.6MBit per second, New HTC G2 and HTC Evo 4g or whatever tmobile has at the moment calling "4G" phone doesnt Support LTE or WiMax, it supports HSDPA with 14.4MBit per second speeds, Vibrant works on same Frequency and same HSDPA with 7.2Mbit per second which is Twice less. So Basicly if lets say you live in city where VIbrant can get 3MBit per second , you 4G phone will get 3Mbit as well, but if you live in city where you can get 7Mbits per second on your G2 or 4G phone you will get same speed on Vibrant too. Just icon will not be changed. The trick Tmobile using to let you think you are on 4G instead of 3.5G is by Setting HSDPA network icon as H or 4G instead of regular icon 3G , when phone goes to UMTS it shows 3G, when it goes to GSM it gets to E and so on . So its just Icon nothing more, stop worrying about Icons , what really matters that Tmobile doesnt offer speeds of more than 5Mbit anywhere yet. Maybe maximum 6Mbits if you live close enough to HSDPA Tower. (like 10 feet away). And this speed Vibrant will hold on ease. So Main Point and Bottom Line is ANY Phone that supports HSDPA Network with up to 7.2Mbit per second will be receiving Maximum Tmobile Speed which is avarage 3-5Mbit per second depends on your location and dont mind if it says 3G and not 4G speed on your phone will be Exacly the same since its Same Network HSDPA. Hope it clears everything since its Just Marketing Trick nothing else.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dima25:
Oh forgot to mention if you have 2 phones in your hand both Vibrant (or any other 3.5g phone) and 4G phone from tmobile , both on same tmobile, sometimes difference can be in speed because it also depends on Antena strenght on your phone, some phones have better antena thats why they get more singnal but difference is not big at all. And if you ll stand next to HSPA+ (HSDPA) Tower with both Phones in your hands , Speed will be IDENTICAL. But on NEW phone it will show 4G :) even if its on same 3.5G (HSDPA or so Called HSPA+ how tmobile likes to call it) So 4G phone is basicly has overclocked Icon and Vibrant downclocked icon which Displays 3G , I think both phones would be correct if they will show H or 3.5G icon. But if they both will show H or 3.5G who will buy 4g phone :)? and why the hell Tmobile then shows comercial of 4g ? :) Tmobile doesnt want you to know the truth, they want you to believe that by Buying 4G phone (which costs more) you will get better speed which is a big fat lie. Otherwise you will not fall for it and stick with your 7.2MBit/s HSDPA phone and it doesnt matter if its Vibrant or G1 or anyother phone. If you want to check which phones support 7.2MBit on HSDPA or 14.4 and see phones that have Wimax or upcoming LTE check gsmarena.com
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dima25:
these are all 3.5G Phone available for all carriers at the moment :) notice MyTouch 4G on tmobile in the list :)) http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sName=&idMaker=0&chkHSDPA2100=selected&idAvailability=0&YearAnnounced=0&nPriceLow=0&nPriceHigh=0&idCurrency=0&idFormFactor=0&idDualSIM=0&idQwerty=0&HeightMax=0&WidthMax=0&ThicknessMax=0&WeightMax=0&idOS=11&idDisplay=0&idDisplayRes=0&fDisplaySize=0&idDisplayTech=0&idTouchscreen=0&idAccelerometer=0&id35mm=0&idCamera=0&idCameraFlash=0&idVideoRecorder=0&idSecondaryCamera=0&idExpansionCard=0&idGPS=0&bWLAN=0&bEDGE=0&bGPRS=0&idBluetooth=0&bIR=0&bEmail=0&bWAP=0&bJava=0&idRadio=0&bMMS=0&idRingtones=0&sColor=&StandBy=0&TalkTime=0&sFreeText=

Abriviation of HSPA is High Speed Packet Access, Which has 2 types, HSDPA (High Speed "download" Packet Access) and HSUPA (Upload speed)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] down8:
Niether WiMax nor LTE are 4G, apparently.

They're just faster than what has gone before, but still slower than HSPA+, if memory serves.

Regardless of all that, 'upgrading' your plan to "4G" is stupid with a Vibrant, b/c it doesn't support anything resembling said *G.

-bZj
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] nacron:
the mytouch 4g gets better speeds. Side by side with my friend's mt4g i get 1.5mb max he gets 2.7mb max.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dima25:
Ok WiMax is slightly Faster than HSDPA for sure (dont mind spint since they USE 3g not WIMAX Network) LTE Can hold Speeds up to 60MBit per second in most countries Minimum speed is 20MBit per second, WiMax can hold up to 20Mbit as well in Most european countries it gets 9-10Mbit Per second. And 3MBit in bad locations. So Officially... 4G its LTE 2 or Wimax 2 which are next generations of Wimax and LTE. But here how it goes, GSM first Geneneration is GPRS, then second Generation is EDGE , then goes UMTS network for phones with Sim Cards, And EDVO-A (same 3g) for CDMA phones. Now Next generation which is 3.5G Its HSPA (HSPA+ its not a special network its still HSPA ) So with Maximum Download Speeds HSDPA 14.4Mbit per second, and upload HSUPA 5.72MBit. Now lets get to 4G , or I preffer to call it PRE-4G But after 3.5G. Main Candidate is LTE! Since I never saw Speed on LTE Network anywhere in europe Less than 14Mbit per second and Maximum speed I saw was 68mbit per second or so with some Europe Mobile Provider. Now lets go to WIMAX. Its not even Mobile network such as GSM or UMTS or HSPA or LTE. Its more of Next generation of WIFI. It works and acts as wifi more than Mobile network but with Big difference. Wifi N Routers for example can work up to 300feet range maybe even little more. While Wimax can work up to like 30-50mile RANGE! So basicly Internet Providers just Use those Special Routers with Huge Antena so you will get signal in your city And trasmit very big download and upload speeds. So thats Wimax. its like Extended range WiFi :) nothing else. So basicly if Sprint even has WiMax they are acting more like Att or Verizon DSL with speeds up to 3mbit per second plan and just trasmit it over WiMax to you if you are in range ofcourse. If not you will use just EDVO-A (3g)

So Basicly 2g is GSM or CDMA, 3g is UMTS or EDVO-A, 3.5G is HSPA, Pre4G or 4G Candidate is LTE at the moment. And real 4G will be LTE2. Wimax is just Next generation of WiFi.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dima25:
Well try to run tests like 10 times , and calculate avarage speed. I had problem with my Vibrant that I got 2.8Mbit one time on 1 spot. Its called Latency (lag) then I reran speedtest and it showed 4.5mbit per second. So does it Mean my "3g" phone faster than his 4g :)? No since his phone capable of holding 14.4mbit per second on HSDPA while my only 7.2Mbit, But it could mean one of two things, 1 your phone is deffective antena or software for antena or HTC has better Antena and or better Firmware which makes antenna signal is better. Tmobile just doesnt provide good speed in your area. And when you ll run same test on same spot (do not hold sides of your since it can lose signal Antena is on the side of the phone you are blocking it) The proper way to test you and your friends phone is. Put both phones on table make sure distance will be at least few feet from each other so they will not block frequencies of each other. And press SPEEDTEST app same time. And run test about 5-10 times, if your phone will still show slower speed, try to change places put your phone on his place and his on yours. And if still you will get slower speed I suggest you go replace phone since you got it with deffective antena or firmware. But I bet his phone works with Froyo and Vibrant doesnt even have official froyo yet that may fix antena signal. I think vibrant has same problem as Iphone 4 had. But iphone 4 fixed it with 4.1 Firmware which updated baseband and Vibrant didnt have any fix. Anyway I got 4.7Mbit per second driving my car on Highway in Alabama using Stock Android 2.1 JK6. I didnt test speeds in that place anymore sitting on Axura 2.0.6 but in Miami, FL I get mostly 2.5-3.6mbit per second. But im sure if you ll go with your friend to T-Mobile HSPA tower (if you know the location) and put your phones to test you will get same speed. Tmobile doesnt offer bigger speeds than 6mbit :) Im sure of it. So the phones are equal at the moment.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] chucky80:
I got 4g speed on mine after my upgrade and my signal went from 3g to now says H.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] willsnews:
How much extra a month?

V5 custom vibrant
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dima25:
its not extra per month it just doesnt exist at the moment :) Tmobile doesnt have 4g all they have HSPA so its 3.5G
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] demo23019:
I dont get this thread.

Vibrant does not support hspa+ "4g"

There is NO "4G" plan from t mobile they are not going to charge more money to use "4G" And if they did why they hell would you get it with a phone that doesn't even support it LOL

And why would you want a 4G icon at the top of your phone when its only 3G lol thats like slapping emblems on your car advertising you have type-R, S GTR..ect when in fact you're sporting a 4 cylinder 150 HP POS :D

lol Are you being serious
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] chucky80:
yes I am! Imy 3G internet was 24.95 but the 4G is extra 5 bucks a month. Look on Tmobile website and you will see that the vibrant does support 4G network. It is on their website.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] philliman:
The 4G web is just a name change. The Vibrant is not a 4G phone but capable of 4G speeds. They are on 3.5G speed. So far I haven't seen a H2o or MT4G that's faster than my Vibrant. I get at least 5.66 mbps download speeds. 193mb file downloaded in about 7 minutes on my Vibrant. Same file and location on a friends G2 took bout 13 minutes. I'm good wit the speed my Vibrant has.

Obsidaian V3 + Black Froyo Theme + 4G icon w/ circle BatMod using => Tapatalk App!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] philliman:
-1 they do have 4G coverage. Must not have seen the commercials or received a paper bill. Lol @ no 4G

Obsidaian V3 + Black Froyo Theme + 4G icon w/ circle BatMod using => Tapatalk App!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] fliplovin:
Alright, i work for tmobile and basically the 4g is just a naming game. The speeds on the network have increased dramatically though... definately very fast and its in a lot of areas that tmobile actually doesnt acknowledge as having "4G". Before they labeled it 4g, it was called hspa+, (but that is just a mouthful to say, and not easy to market, people are dumb and want it in plain, simple terms, or they would be like wtf is hspa+? i got that a lot)... like dude that got all technical earlier, its just advanced 3g that can sustain equal speeds to what other networks were already calling 4g, for instance, sprint. I just tell my customers it means 4th generation. But technically none of it is 4g in the technical terms to the fcc or whoever.

My problem with the whole thing is this... if 3g only gets 1.5 mbps max, then why would 4g have to be almost 100x's the speed to be labeled as such. Wouldnt something like 10 times be more realistic? 3g is about 10 times faster than EDGE. So in my eyes, and rational thinking (as i see it), then it is 4g in both respects. i guess it was gsm, edge, umts, then hspa/hspa+ as its the same technology.

no you aren't, tmobile just named all of the plans 4g and even phones that are activated right now that are not "4g" such as the cliq or the optimus are put on 4g web. The only two phones that can reach speeds higher than 7.5 mbps are the mytouch 4g and the g2. Even the upcoming nexus s is not 4g and that is basically a vibrant in every respect... i would buy it if it was hspa+ capable.

also, the g2 and mytouch 4g are capped at 14.4 but the web connect rocket stick is capped at 22 mbps. I have been told:confused:, and who knows if its true or not, that early 2011 we will be capable of speeds up to 60 mbps max like LTE. But im sure that everything will run at 5-7mbps average for a while much like Fios.

...and, the price difference more than likely came from you changing your voice plan from something like a myfaves plan or a legacy plan to an even more plan of some sort. Web used to be $25 with a $35 option including unlimited texting. It is possible that you are paying for the speed boost you get in areas that are hspa+ as opposed to just 3g, allowing you to get 5mbps avg on your phone. Lastly, Unlimited Web has been $30/month since the even more plans came out *Unless* you were on an older plan and stayed there.:rolleyes:

I think you are looking silly here bro, the Vibrant DOES NOT do 4G, it is 3.5g and its max speed is 7.5 mbps, the physical radio in the phone can not handle more. Its kind of like having a WIFI N router and a laptop that only receives WIFI G. It just not possible for the laptop to benefit from that because of the hardware.:eek:
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] richan90:
So what's the fastest speed a G2 or mytouch 4g can get on the network right now? I'm pusing 6.5 Mbps on the Vibrant, with an average of around 3-4Mbps with medium signal.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] fliplovin:
they say 14.4 mbps for the g2 and mytouch 4g but i havent played with the phones enough to see speeds like that. I also got 5.5 the other day, but my 3g coverage isnt amazing here as most of the area is woods and EDGE. So its spotty, but here anyway. The phones are currently only limited by their radios is my understanding.

Its always been funny though, with broadband speeds, i remember going into a cable company in vegas and them having 3 different options for speed with three different modems that each had max speeds they could function at. But, the system still operated at an average speed across all the modems. All you were paying for was the ability to get the extra speed/bandwidth if it was available at the time you needed it. So, what is probably happening here is that the vibrant and g2 get equivalent speeds because that is all the bandwidth available in the area due to the amount of people on the network. Kind of like ATT getting 1kb d/l speeds in manhattan on 3g due to network congestion. Same thing, the system spreads out bandwidth so everyone gets around the same speed that can handle it. That also probably means that even though the mytouch and g2 can theoretically hit those speeds, if they share the hspa network with other phones on 3.5g, they probably wont get the allotment of bandwidth to reach them any time soon. They will most likely have to switch to a new technology where the average speed across the whole network is higher and not shared with 3.5g radios. If you follow what im saying, this is just my speculation anyway.

Its also possible that tmobile is limiting the avg to 5.5 or so right now and slowly speeding it up, maybe they could break the equipment or something. This might also be why they have only announced it in certain areas, im not in one of those, but i definately get way better than 3g speeds. Maybe they arent announcing certain areas until they are operating at a higher avg speed. Id be curious to know what speeds people in philly or nyc or any of the areas tmobile announced on the site are getting.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] hotadef:
IM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE 4G RO 3.5G OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH SPEED I CAN SEE USING A PHONE WITH 1GHZ PROCESSOR. I MEAN A LONG DOWNLOAD MAYBE BUT DAILY USE NOTHING.

i use my 3.5g service and web browse and there is nothing different when i go to wifi. only time i can see a difference is in a long dowload but i dont tend to download nothing more than games and roms to flash lol. in the end the end unless your tethering the xtra speed doesnt help for basic usage anyways
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] fliplovin:
I Notice that the web and maps on navigation are amazingly snappy but you are right...I notice zero difference between that and wifi...wifi is a little more reliable fire very long downloads. As I see it...anything above 10 mbps is over kill right now as most cable companies limit cable internet to that or less anyway. Eventually though...three content on the web will be so large and intense you will need much higher speeds.

In 10 years we will be looking back saying damn do you remember how slow 4g was?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] scpieps:
I just called up T-Mobile about the new 4G plan. The first rep I talked to claimed switching to the new plan would provide a speedier connection. My call got dropped during that call and the second rep I talked to started laughing when I told him what the first rep had said. The second rep essentially said the plan's name was just a marketing ploy and that if I had a phone capable of 4G speeds, I was already getting those speeds without the plan (which was what I had assumed in the first place).

I actually did end up switching to the 4G plan because it was $20 per month cheaper than my old plan.

Strangely, when I ran the speedtest app before switching, I was getting download speeds of less than 1 mbps. After switching I was up to 4.5 mbps. That could just be a coincidence, though. Maybe the placebo effect at work on my phone...
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] hernandez3674:
Sorry for the noob question but will increasing the speed just get you faster to your cap limit..
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dima25:
I dont know about your situation but I never was getting speeds of less than 1mbit :)) The moment I got vibrant which was way back in October, I had Android Web plan for internet its 20$ + to your regular plan. I got mimimum 2.8Mbit/sec , and in some places even 4.8Mbit per second with jumps to 5mbit. So I think what happened with you, is they just upgraded their towers in your location while you were getting new plan. Just a coincidence.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] fliplovin:
Yes...hspa+ was actually active way before they made the big 4g announcement due to the web connect rocket stick coming out. It just wasnt turned on everywhere and there were no phones that were + capable so t mobile just waited to announce en mass
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Anderdroid:
I got 10 on a G2. 7.2 on Vibrant.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dima25:
Hard to believe :) well if you say so , I got 18mbit/sec on my vibrant as well :) Using WiFi. The max speed of tmobile is 5mbit and if you working at Tower it could be 6mbit
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] SamsungVibrant:
This is a pointless thread. People who don't know better, are going to start calling into T-Mobile, asking to be switched to the 4G Plan, thinking their Vibrant will by some miracle start pulling 7.2+ speeds on a non-7.2+ phone.

THE VIBRANT DOESN'T HAVE THE HARDWARE FOR TRUE HSPA+
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dfw2k7:
i switched over to the 4g service because of this thread.. and i must say.. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE!!! I figured that i would at least get 7..maybe even 5 lol, but im not even getting 3!!!. The 4g plan does not help you. the only thing it does is save you time from having to switch to the 4g plan when you get an actual 4g phone.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] disturkis4u:
Lmao. This thread made me laugh. You guys offered to switch and pay more for the same plan you used to get? Seriously? I would think people at xda would be smarter than that. There are people here trying to sign up for loyalty $20 web and then you guys are signing up for "4g" plan all willy nilly and paying extra??

Even the blackberry plans are now called 4g blackberry web. Obviously it doesn't mean that if you switch from your 19.99 web to 30$ 4g it won't suddenly give your blackberry 4g web.

They rebranded the plan names as others here have said. Service is still the same
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] mamba720027:
well i just made something like a dish with aluminum foil and cardboard,solder on a antenna onto it and pluged it into my vibrant earpiece jack and now am receiving way too much speed 100mbps download speed, now i need to make an external hard drive to work with it so i can start downloading blue ray:p.....project to be continued lolz :D:D
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dfw2k7:
Its not extra money..its the same exact price.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] established:
6.7Mbps here in Philadelphia
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jadedbenjamins:
4G on Vibrant

According to T-Mobile, the Vibrant is capable of a 4G connection. It is the SIM card that apparently "allows" the connection or not. T-Mobile sent me the new SIM card, which supports 4G data, and I am now able to get 4G signals when in areas that support it. They sent me the SIM card for free and sent an additional SIM card for my wife's phone (free of charge, no S & H...) just in case we should ever need it. (She has the Vibrant 4G, whereas I have the original Vibrant.)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] qzfive:
...Congratulations in reviving a 14-month old thread.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Nabeel10:
Lol

Sent from my Vibrant
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] ELTORO02:
OK I got simple mobile and a 3g vibrant I currently have the unlimited everything including data but 3g is way too slow. I tried speed test so many times all kinds of places and peak I get 119 kbps download and 190 up...: is there any mod to make it faster.: I tried a att sim card and got speeds of up to 1500 kbps download same phone... its unlocked of course... I mean I pay 40$ for service.. I guess u get what u pay for right... always have to be on wifi at home to get good browsing. .. lol anyway thanks in advance...
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] ELTORO02:
Forgot to mention currently on ICS PASSION V11.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rick0530:
I have got my SGS about a week. the 2.1 os gives me so many bugs, and it really slow, compare with my Desire.

So, I thought I could flash it with the rom at xda forum. But my phone couldn't go to download mode or recovery mode....

And I had bought a few paid apps and fonts from market. So, I didn't want to lose them.

Today, I wake up in the morning, and search on the samsung mobile site. I saw the update news at Hong Kong site.

it doesn't matter which site you downloaded your kies installation file from.

Here is the magical way!!:::

(before you do update, remove you sd card if you got one, just in case)

1. launch the installation file(if you have installed already, reinstall it)

2. choose the area/country-----Hong Kong

3. choose any lang you like to install

4. connect your SGS to your computer

5. once your phone connected, KIES will show a notification automatically, it says you got a firmware update.

6. follow the steps, and update..

and enjoy the official 2.2 from samsung.:p:p:p:D

BTW: my phone just finished the updating 10 mins ago..

it's much faster than 2.1, and not laggy anymore..

it's better to do updating on a 32bit windows os. I tried on my windows 7 64bit, it always shows some error msgs I don't understand.

all the apps and fonts i bought are still there. and also, the emails txt everything still there.. you dont need to do anything.

I will post my feedback with this, if you guys need any help, I will answer your questions. but I think it is very easy and simple.