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[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Its very easy to understand why some people would rather have the EVO.

The EVO at this point has 2.2, feels like a more solid device, has a beautiful 4.3" screen and has HDMI out.

The Epic even on 2.1 is faster than the EVO on 2.2, but people want 2.2 NAOW. The Epic's 4" screen looks a TON better than the EVO's, but people want bigger and somehow that extra .3" makes a big difference. The Epic is SUPPOSED to have microUSB to HDMI, but the EVO has mini HDMI to HDMI now.

So that is why people go to the EVO. Why do people stay with the Epic?

Well, for one, Google's developers phone is now the Nexus S, which is a carbon copy of the Galaxy S phones. The Epic is getting 2.2 within the next few weeks and will probably have Gingerbread ported by developers not too long after that. The Epic can play MKV and avi files natively, which the EVO is not capable of.

Basically, the EVO is at the top of its game right now. Its not gonna get better than where its at now. The Epic is just starting out and has a lot of breathing room and should be capable with the hardware of doing much more than is possible at this moment.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
I 100% agree with you :) The Epic has much better hardware IMHO, and is only getting better. Now I see 2.2 is almost official for the Epic, and it'll only be a matter of time for 2.3 :D
[Epic 4G General] Leviuqse:
Here is a list of my epic bugs problems

Gpx is kinda bad, but the leaked 2.2 fixed the problem but the gps is still not as good as my droid 1

Physical keyboard sometimes "misses" letters when typing(2.1.1 and 2.2.1)

LED notifications don't work when charging the phone(2.1.1 and 2.2.1)

When waking up phone the touch screen sometimes it takes some time to recognize inputs(2.1.1 and 2.2.1)

Sent from of Yeonpyeong
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Ok... anyone else experience some of this too? The only 2 I really see as aggravating to me would be the Screen and GPS
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
I have experienced all of them actually. I marked that at this exact moment I would rather have gotten an Evo and let me go into why:

First of all, I should note that I'm new to rooting and all that wonderful jazz but I'm hoping to get more into in the near future so please understand that my opinion is that of a 'typical' user and not necessarily of any value to someone like you but nonetheless I am here and I will give my two cents.

The primary reason I wish I had gone with the Evo is that I feel like Sammy has been giving me (and all Epic owners) the run around for months now. When I first read that the Nexus S was going to be a Sammy device pretty much identical to my Epic, it occurred to me why they might be taking so long; rather than improving a current product they were working on something more important to the company image. And that bothered me. It still bothers me.

I could be wrong with that reading of the events but as it stands now that is what I see. I look at HTC and the way they deal with updates, even on older phones like the Hero, and I long for that feeling of not being left behind for not buying a new phone every week. Am I a bit annoyed that Gingerbread came out today while I'm still running a non-official build of Froyo? Yes, but that is only the tertiary annoyance to the primary one of feeling left behind when I bought brand new hardware not but a few short months ago.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Thanks for that :) Yeah, at first I wanted to stick with HTC as well, but something about the Epic really captivated me. And your points are definitely noted, and I agree, the Evo certainly has an "ease of 'upgrade'" factor that the Epic doesn't have yet, both officially and in the rooting community :)
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
I should also add that my opinion will either be more solidified or completely changed by how quickly they handle the Gingerbread update. My fiancee has a phone upgrade coming in Feb and whether or not I get her a Sammy phone will most likely hinge on that.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
That'll be interesting to see. In fact, I was surprised that they didn't just skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3, since they were already working with 2.3 for the nexus s
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Indeed I agree. I suspect it has something to do with how many people have being crying out for 2.2 without any concept of just how impending 2.3 really was. But alas, such is the life of a community.

As I said in my first post, I am very new to the Android modding scene and now that I've talked to you a little perhaps your work will be the first I finally am able to get to work (on a mac ;])!
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
I have a mac too :) Yeah, I'm looking forward to doing some nice ports and themes on here, and if you check out my hero themes, you see I like to do everything with the fixings, themed framework and a ton of themed apps ;) :D
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Nice! I have never been really fond of TouchWiz and before that running stock 1.6 on a MyTouch was not my thing. The main issue I've had so far is finding stuff that works on Macs so perhaps you're the answer to my rooting prayers!

~~EDIT~~

I just checked out your Impaled Silver theme and that is very cool!
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Thanks man, I plan on doing something like that/finding a port and sprucing it up with Impaled kick :)
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Definitely my cup of tea!

I should add that aside from the bugs I noted earlier, with DK28 I actually have much better GPS lock. Still have the keyboard responsiveness issues and the rotational is VERY slow/difficult to get to respond. Also, when the screen is off with the keyboard open the LED keys flash on for a few seconds every minute or so. And finally some of the Sammy widgets disappear from time to time but I don't really use them so its of no issue (I have the task manager app on my homescreen just to have a visual of CPU load). Oh and I haven't had any of the lock screen unresponsiveness but that could just be due to how rarely it happens.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Thanks man :D I can't wait to get an Epic and start theming, just need to wait for this pesky upgrade :p
[Epic 4G General] tyl3rdurden:
Yeah sorry about froyo being official. Its apparently not. I was misinformed :( I heard rumors of it being official tomorrow however. Eitherway froyo is on its way and I'm running a custom dk28 rom and I'm loving it. Epic is a great phone. Looking forward to your work :)
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Yeah, hey that's cool :) And I can't wait to start! :D
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
My wife and I love our Epics. From my experience, I will say this. Your typical user will think that the epic is a fantastic phone. Your advanced user, who only knows a tad bit when it comes to what operating system they are running, may complain a little because of the delays of sammy. Your power users, who install custom roms and the like, will come to love the phone if they are a little indecisive about either the Evo or Epic. Epic all the way!
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Cool cool, just what I wanted to hear :) Thanks for reassurance :D
[Epic 4G General] mxcoldhit:
Np. Welcome to the Epic Side. Looking forward to seing your work.
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
You can see some of the ports and themes I've done/worked on in my sig if you'd like a preview :D
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
They're quite slick! I am especially fond of the silver one but thats because I am intrigued by shiny objects!
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Yeah, that was my favorite too, it was a nice port I picked up and themed all the apps for :)
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
I know this isn't really the place to ask such questions but you've piqued my interest so here goes...what language is all of this stuff in? And how hard is it to write a theme/skin?
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Not that terribly difficult: here's a great tool to help you start out :D
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Wonderful! Once my college is on break I'll take some time and start learning all that. Woohoo! Thanks!
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
No problem, when I get my Epic I'll be on here in the Epic forum, not the hero forum all the time, so let me know if you need anything :D
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
That's very kind of you! Thanks!
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
No problem at all, I'm always on here helping anyways when I'm not busy :p :D
[Epic 4G General] kenvan19:
Thought you might find this interesting

Gingerbread is coming!!!
[Epic 4G General] theimpaler747:
Very nice, thank you!!! :) Yeah, this confirms some of my suspicions :D
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dungtran88:
Does anyone know how to calibrate the battery? I tried the clockwork recovery method but it doesn't seem to do anything. Today I drain my phone battery until it wont turn on anymore then I plug to the wall and boot the phone up, the system said I still have 33% left. What is going on?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] xipod:
Dear Friends,

After changing Desire for Milestone as my "every day use" phone, because milestone have a keyboard, now I have a few questions.

My phone come with Android 2.1-update1 , and it is unlocked but I can see vodafone icon in apps.

How to make clean install of official fw 2.1 on my phone ?

Thanks to everybody
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] milestonedude:
id install cronos 1.6.1 which i think is almost a full 2.2.

its amazing!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=803717
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] razer54:
try that :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=696845

it's the original 2.1

he want vanilla 2.1, not 2.2 like (even if the chronos rom is a great work !)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jshaddix865:
I recently had an htc evo that was rooted. I had it replaced thru warranty at sprint and they gave me a brand new one out of the box. I downloaded the revoked3 app and tried to root this new evo. It said that the root was successful however it wasnt. it goes right back into normal stock bootup mode. I then moved on to download another rooting tool called simpleroot.. tried it. I got to step two, and it keeps saying the file that was pushed to the sd card cant be found. i restored sd card and tried it again. same thing. Then I went to look for another rooting tool and didnt have much luck. Is there anyone out there who has any suggestions on how to actually successfully root this evo ?

Android 2.2

Baseband Version 2.15.00.09.01

Kernel Version 2.6.32.15-g59b9e50

Build 3.30.651.3

I need any help that anyone can give or suggest.. thanks so much in advance for your help.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ratherDashing:
Q1: How often do you reboot your phone? If you enable 4g and disable it do you reboot because of the bug where it still trys to connect?

Q2: If I'm home with good wifi is it better on the battery to have wifi enabled or disabled on the phone?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kdpope24:
I have found it that if you are in a bad reception area wifi seems to save my battery life by about 35% rather than running 3g.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DaveJeep:
Posted this in the Doc Bell thread as well. I've been running Doc's Bell JK3 rom for a while, starting with 1.0, I'm now on 1.2.

Lost my SD Card today after flashing K10E-500hz, was on K10C and also K9 before this. It flashed fine then I put the phone down and picked it back up 20 minutes later and the soft lights were glowing so I thought I had a message. The phone wouldn't respond so I rebooted it and instead of Launcher Pro, TW loaded and I was greated with a message saying the internal SD failed. I can't access anything, keeps force closing.

I still have clockwork recovery and download mode. I tried to flash JH2 with Odin but it won't even start. It's like it doesn't see the phone at all, even just in windows.

I need to get back to JH2 to take this back for warranty. Or is there other things I can try?

Thanks guys

edit: I noticed something weird. In CWR I can see the files on my SD card, but once booted it says no SD inserted.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dhiru1602:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=845708

This Topic Pinpoints your issue.
[Fascinate Android Development] Flip260z:
The Showcase is the Cellular South version of Fascinate and is very similar in structure to the Mesmerize. While it has been determined that the Mesmerize files work for the Showcase kernel and Clockworkmod, I was able to get jt1134 to compile the same files from a dump of my showcase. Attached is the kernel for clockworkmod as well as instructions for getting it installed. redbend_ua and zimage are located in the kernel_update folder of zip file.

You will also need to be rooted and have the sdk installed to use adb.

You will need to install redbend_ua first extract the zip file then;

adb push path/to/redbend_ua /sdcard/redbend_ua

then you need to make it executable

adb shell
su
chmod 777 /sdcard/redbend_ua

Now you need to move it to the /system/xbin

adb shell
su
mv /sdcard/redbend_ua /system/xbin/redbend_ua

Take the zImage file and push it to the sd card.

adb push path/to/zImage /sdcard/zImage

Finally we need to flash the zImage

redbend_ua restore /sdcard/zImage /dev/block/bml8

Now you can download clockworkmod from market and install the fascinate version of recovery. When you get done you can then flash the attached zip and it will replace your stock phone kernel with the modded one giving access to bln and some other stuff.

Big thanks to jt1134 for taking the time to answer my questions and compile the kernel zip for my phone. Also props to thescorpion420 who I borrowed the installations steps from, since he already had it so well layed out in the mesmerize post. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=850898
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
Thanks for the writeup! And thanks for the help, got this going on my Showcase a couple of days ago... very nice to have the ability to make backups!
[Fascinate Android Development] :
Hey, sorry, I'm having some odd trouble with this and I was wondering if someone could help. When I attempt to push the file, I'm getting a "permission denied" error. Any idea how to fix this?
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
I had similar troubles when I did it... I used Root Explorer to move the files into the proper locations, and Terminal Emulator to run the commands.
[Fascinate Android Development] :
Hey. Is the zImage the zip file attached to the first post? Sorry, I'm learning. Managed to get to the last couple of steps!
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
the zImage file is in the kernel_update folder of the zip file... so open the zip file and extract it from there.
[Fascinate Android Development] Pensacola06:
anyone else from cell south lose vibrate?
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
You lost vibrate after making some modification?
[Fascinate Android Development] Pensacola06:
after flashing the above kernel
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
No problem with vibrate for me after flashing the kernel... did you make a backup?
[Fascinate Android Development] Flip260z:
Vibrate is working fine on mine.
[Fascinate Android Development] Pensacola06:
restored from backup, vibrate still broke, even tried factory reset. do you think warranty will cover?
[Fascinate Android Development] :
I am an idiot. I was reading "bml8" as "bm18." *facepalm* Thanks for the help!
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
I'm sure it will... that sounds like a hardware issue at this point
[Fascinate Android Development] snake8421:
Has anyone tried flashing super clean rom for the mesmerize?I figure since the showcase and the mezmerize have a lot of similarities it might be possible but i dont want to brick it.
[Fascinate Android Development] elijahblake:
I'm still getting the error:

failed on '/sdcard/redbend_ua' -Cross-device link

downloading Astro Free* right now to see if I can move it with that... Doesn't look like the FREE version will let me move or copy the file. I'm wondering if it will work if I buy Root Explorer

Well Root Explorer solved my issue. For some reason xbin had RO rights.. I flashed the Recovery now I'm installing ROM Manager to do a back up..

Finally finished my first back up..
[Fascinate Android Development] add144:
Worked with no issues. Thank you for getting us one step further in Showcase development
[Fascinate Android Development] elijahblake:
there's now a vudoo kernel jt posted for the fascinate, mersmerize, showcase and it's smoking fast..
[Fascinate Android Development] paullytinkle:
Can someone tell me how to do this from the terminal on my phone? my phone isnt showing under devices.
[Fascinate Android Development] ArabianRATA:
Essentially, you would download Terminal Emulator from the Android Market and run the commands in the terminal. Note that the files should be copied to your /sdcard/ first! :D

A little more info, since you're running it from the phone (and not adb shell) your first command will be: su. PM me if you need more help!
[Fascinate Android Development] msstapleton:
Yea I used the method for the phone instead of trying to adb with the pc. I had much better success using terminal emulator. Seen the green words reading then reboot. Success. Thanks so much for all help and commands.
[Fascinate Android Development] jwhite2005:
I am getting an error when doing the following:

mv /sdcard/redbend_ua /system/xbin/redbend_ua

failed on '/sdcard/redbend_ua' - Cross-device link

I tried using adb and also a terminal emulator.

can anyone help.

EDIT: downloaded root explorer and was able to move file
[Fascinate Android Development] msstapleton:
Yea with the root explorer app it was easier to move and give the file full privileges. All you gotta do know is give the redbend ua commands to execute the file.
[Fascinate Android Development] msstapleton:
Just pm me if you neef some help. If I can't help I can get you someone that can help
[Fascinate Android Development] BubbaKush:
Okay guys I just rooted my phone today and I am wanting to flash the clockworkmod recovery so I can use the new voodoo roms that just came out.

The problem im having is that (by the way im doing all of this on my phone using a terminal emulator) when I type

su push path/to/redbend_ua /sdcard/redbend_ua

I get permission denied even though I typed in su by itself and it said terminal emulator was given superuser access.

All help would be great :) thanks so much in advance
[Fascinate Android Development] BubbaKush:
when attempting to do the last step i get this.

c:\platform-tools>adb shell

$ su

su

# /system/xbin/redbend_ua restore /sdcard/zImage/ /sys/block/bml8/

/system/xbin/redbend_ua restore /sdcard/zImage/ /sys/block/bml8/

RedBend Update Agent 6,1,14,1

FOTA : Make Block Device Nodes

lcd_init(498): start!

lcd_init(507): fb0 open success

lcd_init(514): width = 480, height = 800

open device file: Is a directory

bmldevice_get_size: bmldevice_open failed!src: /sdcard/zImage/

dst: /sys/block/bml8/ partition size: 0x0

part_size: 0x0

c:\platform-tools>

what am i doing wrong? please help
[Fascinate Android Development] add144:
You're typing in

"/sdcard/Zimage/"

Instead of

"/sdcard/Zimage"

And

"/sys/block/bml8/"

Instead of

"/dev/block/bml8"

...Pay attention Junior
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
Whenever I reboot into recovery and apply "update.zip", it goes green until it says:

E: failed to verify whole-life signature

E: signature verification failed

Installation aborted

Any ideas??

Or do install the attached zip file through the "Install ROM from SD Card" option in Rom Manager?

Also, I've noticed theres a "recovery-update.zip" in /sdcard/clockworkmod and a "recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.0-fascinate.zip" in /sdcard/clockworkmod/download/koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries..

Do I need to move one of these to the root of the SD and rename it?
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
Bump..

Could this be a root problem? I used z4..
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
Somebody PLEASE help me!! $5 via PayPal to first one to fix my issue..
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
Why are you trying to apply "update.zip"?
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
I thought I was supposed to... What am I supposed to do at the factory recovery screen?
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
Ok, what steps of the process have you completed successfully?
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
Everything up to actually using Clockwork to flash the test zip.. I flashed the zImage and saw the green words and my phone rebooted, but when I try to go to recovery, it just loads up the factory one.
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
Ok, so zImage is flashed, and the phone rebooted...

You don't have ClockworkMod on there yet...

So you ran the above code, and it rebooted... Note the part in bold; if you haven't gone to ROM Manager and actually installed the fascinate clockworkmod, then you don't have it yet... not sure I'm explaining it right, but does that make sense? (you have to install ROM Manager from the market)
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
Yeah, my bad. My phone rebooted after I put in the dev block code. And then I flashed clockwork through the ROM manager and it said it was successful. This is where I'm stuck..
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
Ah, gotcha... and ROM Manager shows Current Recovery as a version of ClockworkMod?
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
Yep. 2.5.1.0 I think it is..
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
Ok, I'm a bit stumped then... the recovery that boots through ROM Manager is blue, and not green? If so, it sounds like it didn't actually install ClockworkMod... if it were me, then next thing I would do is go through all the steps again and make sure you're not getting any errors, then try flashing ClockworkMod again
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
Do I need to undo anything first, or just redo it? I don't wanna mess anything up..
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
I don't think so... going back through the process shouldn't cause any problems.
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
Oh, and try using Root Explorer to move the files to the proper locations and make sure they have the right privileges...
[Fascinate Android Development] phocus:
Lag fix

What roms are you guys using.

And do they have the lag fix in them? or at least a work around?
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
I used Root Explorer last time, but how do I make sure about the privileges?
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
Sorry, I meant r/w privileges in the folders, so the files actually get moved to the proper locations. If you use Root Explorer, it should be fine.
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
Not sure which lagfix you're referring to, but I'm using the Voodoo5 Kernel found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=871915

You don't need a special ROM for it.

Only ROM I know of for Showcase is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=895429

Make sure you read all instructions before attempting anything... :)
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
Finally got it! I had to fix the permissions through ROM manager and run the dev block code again. Making a backup now. THANKS!!
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
Awesome! Glad you got it working! :)
[Fascinate Android Development] phatboy5015:
Does this process change the kernel? If so, does anyone have a zip of the original Showcase kernel?

If someone reading this has just rooted their phone, but not done anything else to it, please PM me and I'll tell you how to back up the stock kernel.. And hopefully you'll be nice enough to send me a copy. :-)
[Fascinate Android Development] elijahblake:
I have the stock kernel in zip
[Fascinate Android Development] jbreakfield:
If you create a back up as soon as you get clockworkmod working, then you should have a backup of the stock kernel. Flashing the novoodoo.zip file is what will change the kernel, so if you don't backup before that then you won't have the stock backup.