yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
Can you purchase the DVP 8GB for 100 bucks then CANCEL your brand new tmobile service?

Whats the worse? they'll only charge you 200 bucks for a contract termination right? then you've bought the phone for 300 bucks.=)
[Venue Pro General] SHAUN231:
nope wont work. cause when you get approved dell emails you and lets you know you recieved a $350 dollar discount so you will be charged 200 from tmobile and 350 from dell for the credit you recieved. they will charge the credit card you used over and over. loop hole is to get a prepaid credit card for one time use
[Venue Pro General] ft55555:
Do you have a link with this information? I looked all over their agreements and conditions of sale, and I see nothing about having to pay back the discount.

Also, how is using a prepaid credit card a loop hole? Wouldn't they call you to get a valid credit card if the one on file doesn't work? Or can't they just send you a paper bill?
[Venue Pro General] jessej:
It would probably work fine with the exception that there is also a 35 dollar activation fee for new service and you are required to pay a minimum of the first months service. Also just a word of caution that there may be hidden cancellation fees much like with Amazon. Where both the carrier and the company you purchased from charge you for cancellation prior to a specified amount of time. It really doesn't save you as much as you would think. The best option would be to sign up for Borders Rewards and receive the 10% off for purchasing through the Dell Employee Purchase Program which Borders Rewards members have access to.
[Venue Pro General] ft55555:
The Amazon cancellation fee isn't hidden. It's clearly part of their "Instant Discount Policy".

If you intend to use T-Mobile service anyway, paying the first month's service fee is no big deal. You're paying only $20 more than the no-contract price that you would have paid had you purchased the phone outright. However, over the course of 2 years, that $20 adds up even if you pay the ETF, so it's always beneficial to get off contract as soon as you can.

I thought the activation fee was waived, but even if you did have to pay it, you're still saving $95:

Discount: ($350)
ETF: $200
Service Fee Diff: $20
Activation Fee: $35
___
Savings: $95
[Venue Pro General] jessej:
I took it to mean that he would be signing up for a new contract and already has one. If this is actually what he was doing then he would also be paying for his existing monthly plan if he wants to keep his existing phone number. Say $50for this example.

$100 phone

$200 cancellation

$35 activation

$50 data only plan (new contract)

or

$60 500 minutes (new contract)

$50 existing plan

total is $435 or $445

total after the discount on the 8gig model with 10% epp is $404.
[Venue Pro General] benjaminries:
Incredible - especially considering the standard ECF in Canada is $400!
[Venue Pro General] untrueparadox:
for tmobile, i believe you cannot modify your account within the first 3 months if you want to buy a phone because the retailer won't get commission if the line is cancelled so they might charge you extra.
[Epic 4G General] hardrock121:
SO i updated to Froyo and as other mentioned.. have a dead GPS atleast seems like it.. I m on GPS test for last 15 mins and no satellites in view.

Any one else having the same issue.. if so how did u fix it?

I m about to reboot and check again.
[Epic 4G General] NYYFan325:
I ODIN'd back to DI18

Went into google maps and got GPS lock

ODIN'd DK28 modem and booted up

Installed Clockworkmod

Flashed DK28 ROM

GPS works great
[Epic 4G General] spf2722:
I went from quantum 1.7 back to stock DI18 via Odin, used Odin to flash Modem and pit files, then rooted and clockworked, flashed ACS deodexed

DK28, got everything back, including GPS. Mine was broken once I upated to froyo when leaks first started dropping.
[Epic 4G General] hardrock121:
Well I went from stock to froyo....no

Rooting done at any time...still this would work???
[Epic 4G General] NYYFan325:
If you follow what I posted step by step, the root is applied when you do the DK28 ROM
[Epic 4G General] hardrock121:
So how do I odin to dl18 after I m already on froyo

Ps I am noob. :(
[Epic 4G General] camarojones:
Ill have to reload and tr that when I get home. But after every release doing the same, this is going to be a NIGHTMARE for sprint if the offical OTA does this when its eventually released. :/
[Epic 4G General] NYYFan325:
Read up on the forum a bit to learn, this should send you in the right direction though:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=794138

Hope that helps :)
[Epic 4G General] ObsidianGT:
That worked for me, as well.

A rooted DI18 stock ROM was giving me trouble with the update.zip method due to the old joeykrim one-click used to root it. So I went with the Odin3 method.

Just to clarify:

I used the Odin3 method (the alternate method) to go from a rooted, stock DI18 to the new DK28 OTA update leaked ROM.

I enabled GPS and opened Google Maps, but "My Location" failed; no GPS.

I used the same Odin3 method plus this PIT file to go back to DI18. As explained here and here.

I tried "My Location" again; GPS worked!

I then repeated step 1 to go back to DK28. I tried GPS and it worked. Success!

For what it's worth, I then successfully applied the one-click root v2.50 (enable USB-debugging, plug in the phone, extract the files to a folder, then run the "run" file).

EDIT: Another thing I wanted to mention: ensure the Samsung USB drivers are properly installed and working. Test them by plugging in the phone like normal while on, try enabling USB-debugging, try the "download mode" where you power-on the phone while holding the "1" key on the keyboard. Ensure your computer successfully installs the device drivers in all of those methods before starting any of this.

If you're having troubles with Windows 7 64-bit, try it in XP 32-bit. All you need are the USB drivers, Odin3 and the PIT and .tar.MD5 files to make this all happen (and the one-click files for root, I suppose). Good luck!

Oh, busted. I'm a lurker. I just realized this is my first post on here since joining almost 3 years ago! Yay me.
[Epic 4G General] NeonMonster:
DK28 killed my GPS! It was generally always able to locate me, even if it was 30-90 meters off.

After flashing the DK28 modem/stock rom, the GPS wasn't able to find me at all. Closest it got was about 2 miles west of my location. -___-;;;

Currently trying to flash DI18 and see I can get it working again.

**EDIT**

Flashing DI18, getting a lock, then flashing DK28 again, WORKED and fixed my GPS!

I am able to get a fast accurate lock. :) A bit much of work, but I'm glad its working somewhat again.
[Epic 4G General] Bobulus:
Just adding my voice of support to this method.

-Started with stock DI18, GPS averaging 30m accuracy indoors and out.

- Rooted with one-click, installed deoxed DK28 with clockwork

- GPS could not even lock on, even outdoors.

- ODIN'd back to stock DI18

- Got a lock with GPS (back to 30m accuracy)

- ODIN'd stock DK28.

- GPS was averaging 60m lock indoors

- Went outside, aquired a good lock

- GPS now averaging 3m (not 30!) both indoors and out.

After that, I rooted stock DK28 and flashed another DK28 rom (including clearing data and cache) without the quality of the GPS lock decreasing.

Hope this helps.
[Epic 4G General] ogrillion:
Using maps on DI18, then flashing the DK28 modem and rom definitely fixed my GPS issues..

Whats odd is I did do GPS status when I was on DI18 and flashed DK28 and still my gps was messed up, so it seems using MAPS is the key.. odd.
[Epic 4G General] markstibbyspot:
Hey all...just wanted to share.

Before the froyo flash my GPS was working.

Before the froyo flash I decided to do the "GPS Fix" turned on hot start up.

After that gps took longer to start.

Flashed to froyo dk.

Now GPS does not work.

Tried getting back to the dialer gps menu, but it doesn't work? do we have new numbers to access the gps menu?
[Epic 4G General] ss4rob:
Is there a way to do this without having to flash back? I too am in the group of going from stock eclair to froyo and now I can't see any satellites. Ugh.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
I didnt flash back.my gps is fine. Using viper rom 3.0 + gpsfix.
[Epic 4G General] markstibbyspot:
could you give info on how to use the viper rom for newbees?
[Epic 4G General] alfiej:
Sheesh man I must be a lucky MF. My **** locks better than ever. I flashed stock with odin and applied update.zip. I mean my **** almost locks as soon as the app loads..:D
[Epic 4G General] hardrock121:
Can someone tell me the logic behind this approach and why it works?

I havent flashed back to DI18 ... will wait to see if it locks at all outside my house. I know I had some issues before but not consistent.
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
Locking is insane. 4 meters indoors. I actually walked from one end to th other of the building I'm in and it actually followed me correctly. THANK GOD this was fixed..

My gps initally didn't work then just resent the dk28 modem over and blammo. It worked.
[Epic 4G General] DiNoise:
After flashing I opened maps and couldn't get any satellites to lock, downloaded GPS status and it worked, cleared and redownloaded data in tools just to make sure, maps worked fine after that
[G Tablet General] jwlehane:
Has anyone been able to get keyboard replacements to work?

I installed 'iphone keyboard' and 'slide IT keyboard Demo', and both show up in Settings -> Language & Keyboard -> but when you try to enable them, you get the warning about keystroke sniffing and if you click OK they still are not enabled.

I mostly want this for Voice input on all fields and something similar to Swype.

While I am at it, I would love it if, from Home Screen I could hit Menu, Settings, to get to the settings screen.

I do like the way the Settings screens work, layering what are separate activity screens next to each other on the tablet. Something Google should keep in mind for Honeycomb, it is a great way to make use of the extra real estate of the Tablet and should be an easy conditional for programmers, or even the OS to take into account depending on device type (user agent?)

I ramble, time for bed

Day 2 of my GTablet changed me from a returner to a keeper.

Thanks xda.

Johnny
[G Tablet General] flashlight1:
Instructions here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=858107&highlight=wii you really just put the apk from data/app to system/app but need root explorer to do it
[G Tablet General] dsf767:
I have swype working. Were can not post how to do it here but check out the tegratab forums.
[G Tablet General] jwlehane:
broke down and bought root explorer. writing with slideIt.

benefits over default keyboard:

swype style writing

voice button

return key in portrait mode

thanks again.
[G Tablet General] Life in LA:
OK...

<-- noob

to be clear, the only way to replace the keyboard apk in TnT lite 2.2 is to use a pay app (root explorer)?
[G Tablet General] Canadoc:
With slideit keyboard are the a an return buttons hard to press? I seem to have trouble with all the non stock keyboards
[G Tablet General] jwlehane:
No problem for me.
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
If you're comfortable with command line, you can do it w/o root explorer:

Root using z4root

Use a terminal to

Mount /system R/W

Copy the apk from /data/app to /system/app

Change apk perms

Reboot

There's an app in market called system r/w that can do the remount, and many terms under market.

Jim
[G Tablet General] daveingram:
I had a very similar problem with the a and l (L) keys. There is a weird fix that worked for me. Search the g tablet developers forum for "configuration.ini".

D

UPDATE... its on this page http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=853310&page=34
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] roteplex:
Looking back, when I switch phones it is usually when there is a better device out with a significant improvement over my current device. My first smartphone was the Tmobile MDA (HTC Wizard), which I bought roughly 5 years ago. The next phone was the Tmobile Wing (HTC Atlas), with a much smaller form factor and faster CPU the device was a great improvement.

My next device was my first real HTC marketed phone, the Touch Diamond. The diamond, was a complete overhaul from the other two HTC phones I used. I loved every little part of it. But going from the Diamond to the glamorous HD2 was even more amazing, the screen, the size everything was perfect.

Now the question I have is that it is almost a year that the HD2 has been out and I ready to get a new phone, but I am wondering about what things I should consider.

I dont think that the Droid X, or the Galaxy S smart phones are really all that much better than the HD2, so I am more interested in the Cortex-A9 phones that are slowly trickling into the market.

The CPUs that will have Cortex-A9 dual core tech are as follows:

Nvidia

Tegra 2

1Ghz

Custom High Profile Graphics

(Motorola Olympus, LG Star)

Qaulcomm

Snapdragon 3rd Gen

1.2GHz/1.5GHz

Adreno 220

Verizon HTC Phone

Samsung

Orion

1GHz

Mali 400

(Nexus S)

Texas Instruments

OMAP 4

1GHz+

PowerVR SGX 540

(Pandaboard)

Marvell

Armada 628

1.5GHz + Custom 624MHz DSP

Custom High Profile Graphics

ST-Erricson

U8500

1.2GHz

Mali 400

So basically what should I do? Wait for all of them to come out and then decide, or get which one comes first.

I want the best processing power with the greatest graphics, and was thinking on Tegra 2 but found that Open GL ES benchmarks have low values for the Tergra2 platform lower than the SGX 540.

Galaxy Tab Results:

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Samsung GT-P1000 Galaxy Tab&benchmark=glpro11

Folio 100:

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Toshiba Folio 100&benchmark=glpro11

Are these a result of poor drivers or is Tegra really weaker than the SGX 540, (and thus weaker than the Mali 400)?????

Is the Nexus S a better choice than the Motorola Olympus, or should I wait for HTC's addition to the game with a 3rd gen Snappy. Will the adreno 220 GPU out power the Tegra 2 and Mali 400. What do you guys think, and what do you plan on doing.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kangal:
Just re-edited the post.

Apple's A5 details are added in, its looks to be one of the best chips for the year.

If I had to choose between the OMAP4440 and A5, I probably would be reduced to a head-tail coin flip!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kangal:
Update:

The benchmark results of the Snapdragon MSM8660 are in.... and it goes further to support the list.

MSM660 = Dualcore A9 + Adreno 220 + Qualcomm modification (for better/worse).
[About XDA developers] xxd:
Thanks to this forum, I now have my new (hboot 2.02) HTC EVO rooted, running with a kernel I self compiled, and it just successfully loaded the kernel modules I developed.

All of this with 0 knowledge of Android a few days ago... (Years of Linux kernel dev exp helped though)

Besides this post I will be saying thanks by donating to people who made helpful posts, guides, etc later this week once my Paypal account is sorted.

Thanks again!
[About XDA developers] orb3000:
Welcome to forums,

Donating to Developers, Chefs and to XDA is the best way to say thanks:)
[Epic 4G General] avenger213:
So DK28 is supposedly 2.2.1 but I ran Quandrat with the stock rom and it comes up 873, almost exactly the same as Galaxy S 2.1, leading me to believe that JIT is not in the rom. Correct?
[Epic 4G General] NYYFan325:
I may be wrong but quadrant:

1) Isn't the best way to base performance

2) Doesn't really show improvements that JIT provides

Download linpack if you want and your score should be around a 14 or so, compared to the 8.5-9 on 2.1
[Epic 4G General] bondosho:
Quadrant isn't a real life benchmark, and is highly flawed. Check out Quantum's "warp speed edition" ROM for proof.
[Epic 4G General] wjsmaggle:
I got 1205 with stock dk28 but I have noticed others reporting lower scores. Variability in testing with a bad benchmark perhaps?
[Epic 4G General] jOEdAbOSS:
I've got 1839 lol... For some reason I doubt that's accurate (:
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
I did a quadrant test with a stock epic 2.1 and an epic on dk28 and the scores were pretty much the same every time. The major difference was that the Froyo epic ran the cpu benchmarks much faster but hung during the first I/O test. The 2.1 epic ran everything about the same speed and completed the whole test much faster than the froyo epic.
[Epic 4G General] nubecoder:
I also noticed this and posted in another thread...

to quote myself

I expected a bit more of an increase..

I too am wondering if the JIT was left out of our Froyo (if that's even possible, I'm still a total nube to andriod stuff).
[Epic 4G General] iwantAdollar:
What exactly is JIT, does it speed the phone up?
[Epic 4G General] nubecoder:
Just In Time compiling...

From what I know about .Net (I'm a C# coder), it allows for compilation of the app for the specific CPU during the 1st run.

Someone please correct me if this differes from andriod's JIT...
[Epic 4G General] bigshark7:
the epic has fast computation hw between the cpu and gpu, it could be the case that the JIT benefit doesn't show in the benchmark margins.

the device is a fast one, all compared.
[Fascinate General] jbrdr985:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/04/official-android-2-2-froyo-update-emerges-for-sprints-epic-4g/
[Fascinate General] jpcdeux:
It's about time! This phone should've shipped with it IMO
[Fascinate General] martyotaku:
Its finally here..........umm but its not! :(
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
polly want a cracker?
[Fascinate General] Dizfunky:
What lengths will I have to go to once it comes to the Fascinate to update? (rooted with JT's Super Clean and Voodoo)
[Fascinate General] dustinface:
Just wait a day or two for a custom ROM that uses it after it releases. No "lengths"
[Android Apps and Games] FireDemonSiC:
Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a way to enable anti-aliasing in Froyo for OpenGL apps? Things like SpeedForge look just plain terrible with all the jagged edges.

Thanks.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Themes and Apps] Xtra Big Kahuna:
Is anybody intrested in a Star Wars Lockscreen for the Droid 1. It is a metamorph. I will add some pics of it
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Themes and Apps] h4ckd:
Yeah bro hook it up
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Themes and Apps] Xtra Big Kahuna:
Here it is. Send me a message if you find anything wrong with it and i will fix it. There might be some more star wars themes on the way. I will post them here and at droidforums.com. Just look up droid 2 star wars lockscreen. I will add a attachment since i cant post links since im a newer user at this forum.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Themes and Apps] ThaChingster:
How would I use this on my phone? sorry im kinda new at this
[Motorola Droid and Milestone Themes and Apps] Xtra Big Kahuna:
go into the market and download metamorph and download the file im putting in this post since i forgot to upload the updated file to this post. plug your phone into your pc to transfer the file. when you plug your phone in make sure your USB Dubbing is on by opening up the USB Debugging and checking the first box. now place the file in the androidthemes folder on your sd card. now go into metamorph and press unzip/extract new file and pick the Lockscreen-StarWars file and let it load then press the apply theme button and let your phone reboot and it should be good
[Epic 4G General] b3nny:
Just upgraded to OTA leaked froyo, and now it won't let me select ringtones for text messages, calls, ect. The whole phone freezes up and shows a blank screen. What do I do? Is there any way to downgrade back to 2.1?
[Epic 4G General] NYYFan325:
I would try to either

1) ODIN back to DI18 and reapply the 2.2 update ROM

2) ODIN directly to DK28

your call
[Epic 4G General] b3nny:
Do you have a link on how to Odin DK28?

EDIT: Nevermind, I think I want to go back to DI18 and just wait for the official OTA, I'm having too many problems
[Epic 4G General] NYYFan325:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=861253

Thats the DK28 ODIN file

Give it a shot man, I'm running it with NO issues to speak of
[Epic 4G General] b3nny:
I did it, but my gps doesn't seem to work anymore.
[Epic 4G General] amwworks:
Has anyone used 4g after the update. Is the connection more stable?
[Epic 4G General] nubecoder:
Is it me or does it seem that the linpack scores should have gone up a bit more..

I was getting around 8.3xx in 2.1, and now I'm getting 13.7xx in 2.2.

(I used the 1506bdf2e04b.update-SPH-D700_DI18ToDK28.zip renamed to update.zip method.)

Saw a video the other day showing a nexus 1 scoring 20+ on 1st run and 40+ on 2nd.. My friends Evo (with 2.2) scored @ 38 or so..

Quadrant still shows me well under all of the 2.2+ phones listed.

(1st post, great forums BTW!)

=]
[Epic 4G General] b3nny:
I ended up flashing my phone back to the DI18 version because of the plethora of problems I was encountering. Hopefully the official release of froyo will be flawless, because the parts of my phone that were working were absolutely fantastic!
[Epic 4G General] tyklip:
I updated and everything is working fine except I can't download apps. It just sits there in "starting download." I can access the internet fine. I tried it over wi-fi, 3g, 4g. Any ideas?
[Epic 4G General] tyklip:
Fixed it by logging in to google talk. just like android troubleshooting told me to do. Duh.
[Epic 4G General] MojoSwag:
Anyone having problems with the email app? Im trying to setup my gmail through the email app as an exchange account and ots not working anymore
[Epic 4G General] jwhisl:
I was having alot of the same issues as you b3nny. A factory reset got my sounds, camera, and memory card reader back. Haven't tried gps though

I used the rename zip on memory card to update method
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theimpaler747:
CLICK HERE TO GO TO THE WIKI

I have decided to open a Questions and Answers thread on this section of the forum. This is a good way to keep the number of new threads with questions down to a minimum, which will make new threads essentially for people that are contributing to the Samsung Epic 4G. This includes, but is not limited to, people that are providing the following:

- Roms & Kitchens

- Programs & Apps

- Fixes & Tweaks

- Skins & Themes

- Tips & Tricks

I would like to request the help from other members to keep the thread in order and in check. This will have the added side effect of creating an ever self updating knowledge base that will far extend the content of the Wiki. This will in turn save us from having to answer the same question a billion times...

Please refer to the Wiki first before asking any questions though! It can be located here: http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700

CLICK HERE TO GO TO THE WIKI
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jg187211:
Any idea when the OTA push for2.2 will start?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] styles420:
Unfortunately, we don't have anyone in the community who has inside access to that information. Some of our members are affiliated with Sprint, and so have slightly more reliable rumors, but even their sources have thus far been wrong if they quoted a specific date...

So I hope you understand that I'm not being a jerk when I say, we won't know until it actually happens (and this will probably always be the case)

That being said, this most recent leak (DK28) seems stable so far IMO, so it could potentially become our official update
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayzn210:
ok im a total noob to all this stuff. i followed the guide to update my epic to 2.2. the problem is, that the camera, gallery, and a couple other apps dont work. Can someone help me? Should i go back to 2.1, if so, how do i do that?