yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I am not so sure this ROM likes VVM since it is not a Verizon ROM to start with however it may work so let me check into it.

I think I have the 3g drop nailed since I have not had a drop in over 5 days even with trying all the different reboots that caused problems before.

I still need to dig into this more.

TEASER: Next version will have 6bar (still a work in progress), and fixed auto brightness. Thanks to a lot of help from and effort from lllboredlll
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TGELHAUS:
That is just not fair :p Cant wait to check it out, Thanks Nils!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
NilsP, need a tester? ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
Running it right now, and it is pretty nice. Phone's pretty hot at the moment but I've been doing a lot with it. Will let it charge, go to sleep and reassess in the AM. Can't wait for a DZ Gingerbread port lol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] yardi4life:
I'll settle for the 2.2.1 update! Hint! Hint! Thanks again for a good rom!

Nils: Did you fix the indicator that shows which homescreen one is currently on?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Hopefully one will be available soon and I can start on it

I probably won't put that back since it curves and that won't work well with my theme. If I make it work with my theme then it won't work with the stock theme. I personally hate the curved Rosie launcher.

Maybe once I am happy that all that can work is working I will make a completely stock looking version with my system mods.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Atlas.rouge:
Temperature is fine, battery actually isn't too bad with Ziggy's latest CFS kernel. Great job Nils!

Also, is the Wifi Hotspot free to use? Looks like it is because it didn't prompt me to paying anything, but I figured I'd play it safe lol.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
WiFi Hotspot is supposed to be a pay service.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I have a decision to make before I can release the next version

At this point 6bar signal is only half implemented since we are having trouble getting it to work without breaking something else. It will show the 6 bars fine but only the first 4 are actually active. Since I really like the look of 6bars I would like to move forward and not delay releasing it. So, I have 2 choices:

1) Go back to the 4bar signal icons

2) Fudge the 6bar by making 1of4=2of6, 2of4=3of6, 3of4=4of6, 4of4=6of6 or something like that

Your thoughts and suggestions..

Oh yeah, 2 biggies in the next release are auto dim is fixed and 3g is stabilized. Not to mention all market apps are updated and framework is cleaned up a good bit.

By the way, at this point, although it works, I do not plan on releasing landscape Rosie until I am happy with it. All home screens will rotate but they do not scroll so it is of little value in my mind.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aostl:
I like six bar too, but not a deal breaker. The other fixes sound awesome so I vote for 4bar
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Birdbstr:
I would vote mapped 6 bar...

1=1

2=3

3=4

4=6

:)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Mapped 6 bar buddy :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ptgay49:
6 bars for me.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aostl:
Lol looks like I lose
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Hey Nils...What do you think about this battery meter as maybe an add on since I know not everyone would want it? I like it because it's different. Member Slayher has it runnin on CM

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=468675&d=1292821443
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heffe2001:
I've somehow managed to change the Theme on my phone, and can't figure out how to get it back to your stock theme. How does one go about doing that??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thehoovie:
you mean Desire Skins?

right softkey for Personalize->Skin-> then choose HTC

or you could reflash the ROM no wipe if you installed some zip files via recovery.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heffe2001:
LOL, I never tried that one, since the preview of it was the old sense layout..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aostl:
Will the update be a full wipe required update?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
I asked this already and Nils said you shouldn't have to but I plan on doing a nandroid just to be safe but I haven't had any issues with previous ones just flashing over without wiping.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aostl:
Thanks man
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kprice1658:
yes..darnit, patiently awaiting the next release. Had to abandon it for the last couple of days due to missed phone calls and random restarting...

Hate using someone else's rom, but I'm revisiting miui's until the release is out. Thanks for all your hard work Nils -
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
No prob :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Birdbstr:
That's coooool...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] joehero:
Is anyone else having issues with the 3D Gallery?

I can't get it to pull my pictures from Picasa. They albums all show, but no pictures are there, then they each disappear 1 by 1 as if the application can no longer see them.

Any thoughts?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bclasen1:
Anybody know a fix for the 720? This Rom is the best I've experienced for desire Rom. Thanks a lot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 20twins10:
ditto that.. i dig the adw/launcherpro/sexy rosie and the one in business desire..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
If your pics are in internal storage that may be why. Try moving your pics to the sd card and see if it works.

Have not come up with a fix yet but there are people working on it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] yardi4life:
NilsP: Can you please increase the size of MMS to include 1MB and 2MB. Or if someone can post what needs to changed. Thanks in advance.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
I have been running Business Sense Desire-Z v1.5 for 2 or 3 days now and have not had any problems so far. Great job man!

Are you going to do a Gingerbread rom ? :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I will take a look at it and see what I can do.

Once a port is relatively stable I plan to.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Version 2.0 added to first post.

Decided to go with version 2.0 since in addition to the changes and additions below I did a pretty significant cleanup of the framework.

It should flash over 1.5 with no problems.

And yes, round battery for 2.0 is in post 3

Change log:

Appear to have fixed 3g drops

Fixed Auto Brightness. Set brightness to 100% then check auto.

New ROM Manager

New Voice search

New Maps (See Navigation note below)

Replaced HTC car with Car Home

Got e-reader working

6bar partially implemented - Shows 6bars but as: 1=1, 2=3, 3=4, 4=6

NOTE: Navigation. If this is a fresh/wipe install or you get stuck at "Checking Navigation Availability" do the following before starting Navigation:

1) Turn on GPS

2) Start Maps

3) When prompted turn on WiFi (do not need to connect to any)

4) Map should then show approximate location

5) Get out of maps and start Navigation

Special thanks to lllboredlll for the start on the 6bar and auto brightness fix among other things.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
You.... da..... man!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
OK , Will look forward to it. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Used voice navigation and it works fine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Great. Thanks for the feedback.

See you updated your signature to 2.0 already
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NCX Designs:
Is there any way to get Music to see the internal storage? i use that for my music and all of it is stored there along with playlists and videos (which it can see the videos oddly enough)

does this have to do with how the Music app is linked to the storage access?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
That is related to the emmc mount problem that a few of us are trying to fix. Seems this was not a native feature of the original Desire and is giving us fits fixing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aostl:
Use a 3rd party music app. Poweramp and mixzing both read internal
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I knew a couple worked but could not remember which. I keep mine on my sd since I flash alot and don't want to take a chance.

That makes me think that maybe something in the music and gallery apps could be tweaked atleast as a work around.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aostl:
I believe uncommon sense Rom had that bug fixed somehow but it broke something else. Perhaps deficitism knows. But that obviously wasn't a z rom
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NCX Designs:
I think it was the original Z rom by IncDoes that he had nearly everything working when it was handed off to everyone else on here to finish and improve it somehow.

it was before the camera was fixed i believe
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
As soon as I see an update , I flash it. Might as well be using the latest version.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jtoole1:
Audio issues

Has anyone else noticed an issue with headphone playback? I plugged Pandora into my fm transmitter in my car and it sounded quieter than normal, and when I tried to play PowerAmp it didn't sound as quiet but there was a definite interference noise coming through that was also audible in the Pandora app as well. I'm new to this rom so I was not sure if this was a common known problem with a fix or if it is new in the 2.0 version. I tried a search with no luck so any help would be appreciated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I play it through my car stereo every day and did not notice a problem. Have you by any chance tried any settings in DSP Manager?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Get me the icons for the one you like and I will put something together.

Be best if you found them for the % battery since I need to have 100 for draining and the charging ones.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jtoole1:
No I have not tried using DSP Manager. I have seen it in several roms but never needed it before. Do you plug yours directly into your stereo? Its not a deal breaker for me but it would be nice to get the audio "back to normal".

On a side note, this has been the first sense based rom in awhile, where I have actually preferred using Rosie over LauncherPro. I am looking forward to the next update though that will let us mod Rosie (that edit button just seems so redundant, I would much rather map it to miren browser or handcent). Please keep up the great work, and I will try to see if DSP Manager fixes my audio.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 20twins10:
wiped to the new 2.0.. quad'n about the same as the 1.5version..

nils - i'd recommend re-wording your work around for the gps glitch.. the workaround is put in place after the malfunction is noticed.

just an fyi.. everything else looks killer so far.

setcpu stable at 1.11.. 1.15 causes me some looping..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
This is an annoying bug in the new Maps that it requires WiFi to be active for the first use to work. Only a problem with a fresh flash/wipe and works fine if it is a flash over because the location has already been resolved.

I have had success with the workaround both before and after the bug hits.

I will look at the wording. Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Been pretty quiet so either everyone dropped my ROM in favor of the other 3 Z ROM's or there is no major problems other than the known issues.

I am surprised there are no comments on the auto brightness or fixing the 3g drops so they must be OK
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
For me its rocking buddy, no issues at all and working smooth especially with chads newest kernel. Thanks for the hard work and look forward to what ya got cooking next...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] texanaustinite:
Flashed it last night, so to early to tell if 3g will drop or not, hasn't yet.

Also, don't use auto-brightness. Annoys the hell out of me.

Great ROM. Tried 2 of the other Z's (one is brand new), this one is definitely the best!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xsatanx:
love it since update.noi 3g probs at all..only hiccup ive seen is my clock with weather top half of numbers stay black instead of turning white after a flip..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Probably reading the Gingerbread thread since this rom is working great.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Birdbstr:
Solid so far for me (outside of some critical operator failures.......)

I'm also running Chads latest.

Keep em coming!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kprice1658:
Flashed about 3 hours ago, so far so great. Auto brightness seems perfect so far. Still have the led notifications not working, but have an app for that. Curious to see how the battery life is. I'm either 3g or 1x - depending on which side of the room I walk to:(

I'm trying the new 11.19 radio, so we'll see. This is the best z rom...I usually jump to nix's miui when I have issues, but always come back to Nils when he updates.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Interested in which and how chads kernel works out. I have tried them all and always go back to the one I provide (stock latest)

Thanks. I was never big on the auto either which is why we kept the range narrow so it does not get too dark.

I can't see where I am causing that but what is being left behind is my black top flip. Go to post 3 and install the stock flip clock then it will be fixed.

Me too. I want to jump on that when it is closer to done.

Will do

Let me know how you make out with the radio
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mr4r4n:
so far the latest leaked radio has been working well for me, i am comparing it right now with the 9.01 now, i cant find any bugs that actually affect the rom, i can make the clock/alarm app wig out but it just slides if u play with it lol, its a perfect rom bro, you did amazing, i had to stay away from Z roms because of the data issue as i use my phone heavily for work/personal so downtime is a nono but now its running as it should with everything as it should incredible work, the only question that i had was if i could install the htc locations or would it mess with something?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikesincredible:
cause you proved yourself worthy! ha. Ive used all your ROMS since october, and the Z is by far the best. I am using gingerbread now tho, but will definetly keep a nandroid
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks for the feedback.

You should be OK with HTC Locations. I been thinking of adding it but I keep forgetting when I am focusing on stability stuff.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mp3sum:
This ROM needs more love :)

/best Z out there
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Although this was the first ROM to come out with the Desire-Z support after IncDoes finished his work on it and I have highly enjoyed working on it, I am dropping support for it.

One of the other Inc Desire-Z devs believes that when others use a fix of theirs that it is stealing and I can't work in an environment where sharing is not the key.

Version 2.0 is stable and functioning well with a lot of fixes and enhancements so as of now support for this ROM is completely closed.

D\Besides, 3 other threads on Desire-Z ROM's is more than enough

Admins Please lock this thread.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikesincredible:
bummer man, but i feel you, aslong as you know you were the first dev to do it, thats all that matters! Are you going to work on your business sense still??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Manitook:
Well that just sucks.

Thanks for the great rom Nils.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbdan:
This would be a shame as this is a wonderful take of the Z. Maybe he just worded it wrong and didn't mean it as "stealing" per se? You've been a lot of help to many including myself hope you change your mind.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Whatever you do next , I'd love to try it man ! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Probably not here and more than likely just for me.

I was just going to release a GB ROM but I am not going to bother.

Wrong wording or not the message was received and it is not worth the trouble.

There is nothing is this ROM stolen. If I am to use something from someone else I always ask and give credit where due.

Thanks to everyone for their support.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikesincredible:
honestly, rise above! dont stop cause someone else cant do what you did! atleast your envied!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] khanam:
I've always wondered how devs can steal each other's work when its all based on either htc's source code or open source code... And neither google nor htc seem to be complaining...

I believe that the old verizon ruus that were the base of all the older sense roms are history... They do not have enough features or functionality to be interesting anymore. The z roms are the base for the near future. That is why we have 4 z roms - each is slightly different. I was certainly hoping that each of you would cross pollinate each others roms. It would be a shame if you withdrew.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] domino27:
Don't give up on this rom or any other because of someones poor choice in words. Yours was the first stable z rom for me and many others. I've really enjoyed your work. But if this is good bye thank you for your patience and time on these roms. Happy holidays.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] pmdied:
Does anyone have a favorite theme they use with this ROM?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ptgay49:
You Will Be Missed!

^^

I completely understand your feelings, Nils. A community which is very much built on trust and cooperation starts to break down when an allegation of stealing is made. Since you have contributed numerous uncompensated hours to this forum and have selflessly aided other devs behind the scenes, it would be fair for you to say good bye and good riddance.

However, after you have a chance to reflect on the value you bring to this community and the great ROMs you have provided, perhaps you can have a little compassion for the flashers of this world. We are begging you, Nils, BEGGING you to continue to provide your wonderful creations to this community.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] johnchad14:
Whatever you end up doing next.. thanks for this great rom. I'll be using 2.0 as daily for foreseeable future.. was interested to see how gingerbread factored in for your efforts. Hope you reconsider stopping
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jaysckap:
Your work is amazing please reconsider
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mp3sum:
Awesome work, and understand your feelings.

/Without scumming the offending user's Z ROM thread, let me say I will not use it and urge others to do the same. Clearly (s)he has no understanding of the community dynamic and should not be supported.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gmichaelow:
Eh? One, if you're gonna bash me and my ROM (I'm assuming this is referring to me...), at least please say it to my face. And since we're on a forum, and faces don't really exist here, and neither do I have an avatar, please post this in my thread.

Two, this "community dynamic" that you're talking about is governed by rules. These rules clearly state that, to use another's work, one must ask their permission, and credit them. NilsP did not ask my permission, however, he also did not say outright that he would use my work. I jumped to conclusions.

Three, NilsP also is reading too far into my post:

This is the post that he's so upset about. Do I mention his name anywhere? Do I even mention ANYONE's name anywhere? Don't I use the word "probably"? And last but not least, I end the sentence with a ":P" for crying out loud. Really?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cosmicjoke:
/popcorn mmm, the drama, nomnomnomnom
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jtoole1:
It's just not a real xda party until the drama flows....

For what it's worth, I appreciate your hard and tireless work on this superb rom Nils, and yes Gmichael there was a bit of over reaction to your comment, but you knew it there might be a reaction from others, especially if there was behind the scene's PMing between you two. Just my $.02 though, not trying to agitate the situation.

Personally I think it's funny this conversation is even happening considering the current rumors surrounding IncredibleDoes's "stealing" and the fact this all comes from open source code & HTC proprietary code.

Again, just my $.02. Don't hate. :p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] lllboredlll:
i dont know what happen to the people in this community.... its like you mention the word android and everyone gets all uptight with their panties in a bunch.

i spend years in the windows mobile community and never dealt with such drama as is here... the whole stealing thing is a bunch of bs for the most part.... unless you say take an entire rom add a theme to it then call it your own .... it's common knowledge that if you post a file chances are it will be deconstructed, studied and applied elsewhere... the same thing we all do when we build roms for our phones... i had this same arguement long ago with someone...... technically we are ALL STEALING ... do you think for a second HTC wanted us to take their proprietary rom and disect it, manipulate it, improve it and then publish it as ours? No they didnt so everyone who does not thank HTC in their thread is stealing

you guys need to learn how to share... its like being around bunch of people who were the only child and never shared their toys with anyone.... selfish is the word that comes to mind.... so before you get all hasty and accuse anyone of anything... ask yourself... are you any better? most of you will find your not.... we all stole... unless you build aosp you stole proprietary code and didnt give due credit

nils build your rom and quit worrying about the weenies of the world... they're always gonna be here.... you will always have glory whores to deal with
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
As far as I am concerned the "drama" is over.

I have been in development for more years than I like to remember and I also came from the Windows Mobile ROM world which was very different. I am aware of the fact that we are in some regards stealing from the real owner so when the word "steal" comes up associated with anything I am working on I do react to it. I can't say I won't happen again since I will not have the word associated with what I do.

I also came from a world where we shared everything. If we fixed or improved something we shared it with no questions asked. Hell, we posted it or offered it so others could use it.

Awhile ago I asked the admins on this forum if there was, and if not, could there be a closed forum for developers to discuss and share what they are working on and get help for problems without cluttering the forum with these types of very confusing and less then beneficial dialogues.

Anyway, I can assure the users of this ROM there is nothing stolen in it just good stuff that other great developers helped with.

I apologize to the users of my ROM's for having to listen to this.

On a side note, if I post another version it will not include the emmc or landscape fix unless I can do them the right way and they are stable.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
No worries Nils, def appreciate all you do and look forward to whatever ya come up with...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thehoovie:
I am currently running v 2 and did a full wipe on install, I just now had the phantom call issue. That makes twice it happened to me with this Rom. Not really a big dealto me. Just wanted to report it.