yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Background:

I use the stock Incredible kernel on my day to day phone as I get the best stability and performance with it. The problem with the stock kernel is it does not allow the camera to save to internal but everything else related to the internal work fine.

I have been distributing the ROM with Ziggy's kernel since it fixes that problem.

Question:

So, the real question is should I just distribute with the stock kernel and let every one select their own or continue to distribute with Ziggy's?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
As different phones respond differnt to kernels, id say stock, but i tell ya, ive never had luck with stock on z roms. This thing is wprking flawless how its set up and the camera is sweet. I really dont know what more you can do, i just like to flash toms, lol. And yes, excellent 3g from cans all over the midwest!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
what sort of battery life do you get with stock, nils? i forget what it was like before i had rooted! lately my battery life blows, i was off charger 2 hours 44 min and was at 61% already. ugh. running ziggys 318 CFS HAVS right now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
I have had heavy use for 9+ hours today, including reflashing this rom, and im at 38%. Im off today so the phone is glued to my hand, lol. I use ziggus bfs no havs
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
That would be amazing, as my "current location" is still off lol. I'd given up but hey, if you manage to change the polling location, that'd be great!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
do you like no HAVS better than HAVS? i mean, i read how it's all about voltage scaling, but i still have no idea which is better for battery life. i mean, i get some good use out of mine, i text A LOT throughout the day, check facebook a lot, on the XDA app often, google talk, etc..not much web browsing, but all that other stuff. i can barely get like 9 full hours nowadays haha and btw, i'm running the HTC 1500 mah battery! haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
What I have been including with the ROM is Ziggy's 3-12 BFS no havs and all in all it seems pretty good. 3-18 seemed a little flaky so I went back to 3-12.

I am not a good measure of battery life since not a day goes by I am not flashing something or other. However, I left my house yesterday morning a drove for 3 hours with GPS/Nav on and listented to a book with the stock kernel. When I took it off the charger at 11 ish it was at 100%. I used it on and off all day but nothing serious like a few calls and some e-mail and light browsing and at 4PM when I put it back in the car it was at 82%. Oh yeah. 1500 battery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
And ive been going and flashing it after install, the 3-18 works great for me with no frills pc control ocd to 1.114.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
wow nils that's damn good lol...i'm still not sure whether or not my phone likes bfs or not...sometimes i tend to notice that multitasking with bfs will lag it out a bit more than cfs, hence why i've been trying to use.cfs.more often. maybe i'll try the 312 kernel with cfs
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, where can i get the stock kernel you said you're using? if it's still nice and fast on your rom, i might as well give it a go. i can't even go 8 hours anymore without needing to charge it a few times throughout the day, whereas back in the day i was able to. hmm.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
It's in post 3. Give it a try and let me know how it goes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
thanks, i'm running the stock kernel now. cleared my dalvik, and i'm up and running. here's hoping i get some better battery life!

as for the weather widget showing 'current location' instead of an actual town, all day long, it'll switch up i notice. randomly it'll say my town, and then out of nowhere just refresh and say 'current location'....been doing it on and off all day, and i haven't done a thing. if i'm on wifi, it'll usually show the town all of the time. 3g, nope! so i'm guessing that the information based from location via 3g somehow is getting interruped here. if i use that old fancy widgets version though, it knows what town i'm in all the time, and never says current location! hmm. keep us updated if you do any work to your htc widget clock on polling from another source rather than accuweather! =D

oh you know something else odd that i noticed? randomly i don't get the weather animations. i have it checked to get them, i'll even delete the widget and bring it back to make sure it's checked, and they won't animate when i turn the screen on. odd?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
so i've learned my lesson. no more erasing battery stats for each rom...it wasn't just warm z that would randomly reboot on me...i just did it here and it rebooted while idling overnight for no reason lol i guess whenever i do it my phone doesn't like it :-(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I have had the same thing happen to me awhile back when I cleared battery stats when the battery was not at 100% (98%) and not plugged in. So, I learned to make sure it was at 100% for a bit then leave it plugged in when clearing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
interesting. meh, i'm not gonna bother trying it again. every single time i've done it, it reset, even when i bump charged it. i just hope i didn't f up my stats permanently and that's why my battery life has been awful lately
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, any idea why the HTC hub doesn't work well? for example, i'm trying to download that picasa plugin for the gallery, and it'll download, and then just dissapear, and it's nowhere to be found. same thing happens when i download apps, like that fake call app or the tip calculator..they download...and just dissapear! any idea wahts up with that? it happened on warm z for me as well

also, had any of the z rom makers made any headway on the reason why watching 720p videos on the phone is all crazy choppy and just won't work right? they look fine when uploaded on to the computer but on the phone itself they look awful.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Picasa is already on the phone. I have no idea why the downloads don't work but it could be related to the fact it is a port or just that the hub is still in beta.

Still playing with the video so I am not sure why it does not play well
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
picasa? where? i don't have it...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
The apk is in /data/app/ so I need to figure out why it is not showing up as active.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
As far as why 720p video doesn't play well, what class SD card is everyone using? I've had problems with 720p recording and playback before and realized it was because I was using a class 2 SD card lol. If you're using a lower-class SD card, that may be the source of the problem.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
You may be right. I just created a video on my original free 2gig card and my 8 gig card. It was choppy on the free card and smooth on my 8 gig card.. My guess is the free one was pretty low end but my 8 gig is at least a class 4 but I don't remember.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
but why would sense 2 change that? when i had redemptive revolution and the stock rom, it always played fine. problems started with warm and are here too. if that's the case, we could narrow it by trying to record straight to phone memory...can you do that in this rom or is that unsupported? iforget
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I think this ROM is just more senstive to I/O spped.

Yes, it will save to internal so give it a try
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nope, just tried by saving to phone sotrage...same thing. choppy and unwatchable. hmm! i hope we can get this working
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I should have added that my tests with the videos on the storage card was with the stock kernel. However, with the stock kernel you can not save pics and videos to the internal.

SIDE NOTE: Mentioned before but with the stock kernel you can play music and view pics and videos that are already on the internal just not save camera output to internal.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
interesting. right now i'm running lou's 7 and it didn't work, but i was able to save it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, just curious, when you made this rosie, did u intend to make it floating like this instead of touching the bottom completely? i only ask cuz once in warm i had a glitch where his rosie had a space under it too and i'm just wondering if this is just my phone or if it's how you made it. seeing the wallpaper under there just irks me lol i'm ocd sometimes :-P
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
It was intentional but I don't remember why I liked it. Guess it just made it look a little different with it floating HaHa

All it is is a little gap at the bottom of the nav bar ( common_app_rosie_navbar.png ) image and easy for me to change if wanted. Or you could change it by editing them in com.htc.framework.apk portrait and lanscape hdpi folders.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
oh ok cool, just wasn't sure if my phone was bugging out lol...id give it a change but i have no idea how to edit all of that stuff and make like a flashable zip, ya know? i tried doing that once and i bootlooped myself o_O lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I am working on a new release now so I will adjust it and see how it looks. I vaguely remember it looking too wide since adding to the bottom requires adding to the top also or the buttons look funny.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
oh a new release! woo can't wait. do you make any mods for these as well? for example, i'm using a mod for warm z so my notification bar is full black, and the drop down has the power toggles. i'm not sure if changing this changed any of the major framework for your rom itself though, so although i haven't been having problems lately, i might not be getting the full potential out of your rom. i love the power toggles and the black notification bar.though!

see, pretty snazzy eh?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
6.2 around the corner ???

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Your wish is my command

Version 6.2 (Post 1)

* Ziggy kernel 3/12 bfs No HAVS to fix camera save to EMMC

* Fixed landscape widget spacing

* Added EPST

* Updated ROM Manager

* Updated all Google apps to latest

* Switched back to 4 bar signal

* Optimized Phone and Dialer

* Lighter blue alternate digits on phone, dialer, and keyboard (Easier to read)

If you flash over at least wipe cache and dalvik. No need to do data.

As usual, if you do have problems after flashing do a full wipe with CWM 3.0.0.7 and install
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
DOWNLOADIN NOW! Thanks for all the hard work!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
My pleasure
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbizzle:
any phantom calls on this rom? only reason i am staying away from z roms right now...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
sounds cool nils, thanks for the hard work...i'll give it a few before i flash; i'm really diggin how i have everything set up right now haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
It should flash over 6.1 clean with a cache and dalvik wipe only
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Superb! Runnin really smooth, us got a couple wallpapers from that new thread. You out did yourself. Great install, super stable n fast, an i havent even ocd or changed kernels! IMPRESSIVE, IN ALL PHASES!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
6.2 alright !! Will flash in the morning
[Droid Incredible Android Development] renzo.olivares:
what does this rom have in the notification pull down? Recent apps or settings toggles? or both?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
yeah i saw. i'll nandroid and check it out. honestly, in your opinion, do you think that i'm changing anything major in your framework when i flash that solid black notification bar which has the power widgets from tommytomatoe's thread for warm z mods? i mean, he made it FOR warm z..thing is, it doesn't fully change all the icons. it'll give me drop down toggles, and the black notif bar, and the ugly green ginger bread wifi symbol/battery meter, but the GPS symbol is the white one from yours i think, and the 3g is the blocky 3g from yours, and the signal bar is the 6 bar with blue bars..so it's not changing EVERYTHING when i flash it. haven't really had problems, though
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Great. Glad it's working for you

Recent apps only.

Pretty much what you are seeing. Probably a few other icons but I am drawing a blank on what else might break. Link me to the actual install you used and I will look and see and let you know.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] johnchad14:
Moving on to a Thunderbolt...wanted to throw out a last thanks for a great ROM. I think this one was on my phone longer than any other in the end!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks for the feedback and enjoy your new venture.

That might be my next but I am still enjoying the Incredible especially now that it is the way I like it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
Flashed 6.2 , no problems , everything works fine. Thanks for a great rom . Waiting for one for my T-Bolt ha ha.

Sent by my Droid Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I wish I had one.

Had to use one of my upgrades for my significant other since her phone went into self destruct mode (I think the self was her HaHa) so I have to wait a bit.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
My wife still uses a flip phone , says she doesn't need all the extra stuff on a phone. As long as she can talk and text she's happy. She doesn't do Facebook ,Twitter etc. I got her a tablet to do her net stuff on. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
will the round blue battery for 6.1 work on this? How do I install it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yup, it might replace 1 icon but should not break anything serious so just flash it like any other zip in recovery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Got it, itmust go from blue to green. Im at 70% batt now an its green, but looks much better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yup, goes from red (15%) to yellow (49%) to green (79%) to blue (100%).

I just put the blue on the high ones because everone want blue most of the time. Plus it matches the other blue in the ROM.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
does tv-out and 720p work on this rom
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
720p definitely

Not sure on the TV Out since I don't have a cable. Try it and let me know.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
ok will do. Im having some reloading issues with warm z nightly. Do you know if there is a black and yellow theme out there in a Z rom or even a black and yellow rom, like liberty for the droid 2
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
7 hours mod to heavy use, display using 70%, and i still have 60% batt left, i can live with that. Great rom!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
does this rom have the htc hub app? and the rosie Z setting?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yes...

No....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
As always Thanks and thanks for the feedback
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
great...

and I can live without it lol.

NilsP im getting ready to flash your rom but Im running the old clockwork bc Im on warm z nightly now, if I install rom manager and then update my clockwork would that cause any problems with my current rom?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] thehoovie:
TV-Out Works

Yes TV Out works, I use it almost every day
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Great. I have been asked about that a few times and never had confirmation

Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
You should use RM to upgrade CWM to 3.0.0.7 for my ROM.

You can then use the CWM downgrade utility that is in the Warm Z thread to go back and install his.

Nand backups from the CWM v2 should work on CWM v3
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
up and running. its doing great. I really like it. How do I clear the recent apps thing in the notification bar?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Reboot clears it but the fact they are in there does not meen they are loaded or running. They just move to the right when new stuff comes a long.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cabjmb:
First of all I love the ROM. Is there any way to replace the notification bar task manager with the power widget?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I have really not been interested in including that mod but I do recommend the Settings Bar by Karson in the market
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cliefan:
Can anyone speak to the phantom call issues on this rom? This is the reason I'm on cm7...I'm on the phone alot...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Works great for me!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Have not had one at all since the update.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
nils, here's the link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12008547#post12008547

under warm z battery mods, its number 2. 2. Circle Battery Animation with Warm Icons, as requested by AgentJZ

Credits to Altuswire for finding battery icons

my GPS icon is plain white (i think its yours), my 3g is the blocky one with the up/down under it, my bars are 6 of them, they're blue when lit, gray transparent when not, and i flashed a circle battery much like yours in this thread (i flashed the actual one in this thread, but it bootlooped me...so i did one with metamorph and it worked)

my alarm clock is also a plain gray icon, it's not the snazzy one there...so actually i guess all it did was replace the notification bar color to plain black and then give me the power toggles in the dropdown.....so i guess i have all of your original icons then?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] duansindo:
thanks,man ........
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
also, just wondering, what is EPST anyway?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
EPST is the utility that lets you get into the service section of the phone via the phone keypad.

It helps fix some problems. For example here is one reported use that by the way is not needed for this ROM

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12443345&postcount=3917
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
There has been a lot of interest in the stock looking Z ROM Sense and Rosie and there are a few people developing it. I decided that I would make a patch to do that with my ROM.

I did this so you could apply the stock looking framework without breaking things in my ROM. In other words, it will look and feel like stock but have all my mods and enhancements.

It will apply the stock images to the Rosie bar, notification bar, clock, and most icons. Things like the phone and market are still my theme but the HTC skins and themes will work fine with this..

The download is in post 3 Here
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Awesome, thanks dude!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbh00jh:
I have not had any phantom calls either.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Worked just fine nils, no issues at all. Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nujackk:
Looks great !! Thank you for the EPST

Appreciate the hard work and love your rom. Most stable of the z-rom's IMO
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
+10000/
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
sorry for a newb question but Im still trying to figure all of this out. If i want to put add the circle battery do I just install the zip on to the root of the sdcard, then reboot in recovery, then wipe cache and dalvik then flash the zip?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
That is correct
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
thanks. is that how you would flash a theme onto a rom also
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Depends

Some themes are zip files like this. Mine is just designed to take the ROM theme back to stock

Most Z themes are actually apk install files which you install like any other program
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
ah got ya. will a theme change the colors of the dial pad and keyboard? I've been looking for someone that will make a black and yellow theme kinda like what liberty looks like for the droid 2
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Mrhorology:
Hello,

Is there a list of what apps are safe to remove?? I don't want to just delete whatever and then run into issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbizzle:
Nils- Any way you can make a flashable file to disable landscape rosie? I know you can go it in settings, but that disables landscapes in all the apps too, like the browser. If any way possible, I would like everything but rosie to work landscape. This way it could work well with all the desire z skins, which don't work with rotating rosie.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 86shelby:
This is the rom I have been waiting for. Thank You. I have tried all the other z roms, and this is the only one where everything works.

This is also the only DInc rom I have ever used that had working USB tethering without PDANet.

I've only been using it since last night, but any other rom would have pissed me off by this point.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Nils does great work n offrrs great support. Its a grear rom.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cliefan:
I think I will try this grear rom. ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
I just installed a jrummy16 app called anim mod. It had me do a reboot and then I got stuck at the screen with the building and it would just flash the building pic. I had to wipe and reload the Rom. Anyone using a jrummy16 app
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Lol, i catn tpye
[Droid Incredible Android Development] brando56894:
I love this ROM since its insanely fast but I've had one major problem with it: at times I can't wake the device up using either the power button or the track ball so I have to do a battery pull to get it working again. This happened a few hours after I had just flashed the rom and barely had anything else installed, I have everything set up as I like now and it just did it to me again, even though I have widget locker installed. I've also been experiencing a lot of random reboots.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jayochs:
interesting about that...i had that problem on Warm Z quite frequently, but never on Nils...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Mrhorology:
I just have an issue with something killing the battery very fast. I mean I had it charged to 100% and it dropped to like 80% while on idle. I turned off sync, and

I don't even have any 3rd party apps installed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SmiLey497:
Been getting phantom call here and there.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Try going into recovery and clearing cache and dalvik.

Some bad residue there or something.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mach1man:
Well I finally got the jrummy16 apps to work. They are pretty awesome. My boot animation is the android pissing on an Apple. Then I got some cool screen animation,but the animation only works in apps not the home screen. If u use this app don't reboot when it asks manually do it ur self.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] taihard:
So I want to try this ROM and I know the OP says cwm 3.0.0.7 and Rom Manager tells me it wants to update to 3.0.0.8... is there a problem with 3.0.0.8 that makes it incompatible with this rom or did .8 come out after the latest release of this rom?