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[Droid Incredible Android Development] Qskillzwfu25:
my wifi is working, just broken wifi tethering, trying wifi tether app and default wifi tethering from rom is broken after using chad's latest with fast charge script enabled.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EnixLHQ:
If you are using Cyanogen's built in tethering I've always had trouble with that.

Instead I use the latest beta out for Wireless Tether for Root Users. In my experience these settings work stable:

Device Profile: Auto

Setup-Method: WEXT (ad-hoc)

Encryption: On

Encrypt Setup Method: wpa_supplicant

Wireless Channel: 01 (or you can scan the area with Wifi Analyzer and see what channel is the least used at the moment)

Everything else default, except for your SSID and password.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] neur0tk:
8hrs off charger and still have lots of juice ") it is sipping the juice with this kernel and some setcpu profiles enabled

Sent from my ADR6300
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jesssiii:
Wow, I don't think I've ever done that since, well, ever! I get nervous when my battery gets below 70%, though I've had it down to the 40s a few times. I charge overnight, every night. I'm happy with my battery life but perhaps I'll loosen up and try that.

Zeam & Incredikernel

CM7 latest Nightly
[Droid Incredible Android Development] SubMatrix:
chad would you care to elaborate on how fast usb charging works? I thought some usb ports are simply only rated for 500mA, thus it seems theoretically impossible to get more juice out of it (like say 1000mA like a wall charger).
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_nivesout:
I imagine that if the port is 500mA then it just won't charge as quickly as a 1000mA port. I think the power varies by computer.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EnixLHQ:
I can actually answer this, though Chad can point out if I'm wrong (though I'm sure I'm not).

The normal "slow charge" that we experience is a throttle on the current that comes in from the charger. It's limited to around 250mA, I believe. This means that the battery will never pull more current then that from any source.

"Fast charging" means that Chad has increased this limit. Now at a higher limit of around 800mA the battery can pull more current out of the USB connection when available.

USB ports built in to computers or hubs still only output lower current ratings than the max, so Chad's script won't use "fast charge" with them. This also prevents the phone from taking too much power from the hub and causing other devices to fail.

A wall charger, or a powered hub, will be able to deliver the higher current, so the script detects that and enables the feature.

Flash the zip and forget it. I love it.

Sent from my Incredible with Tapatalk.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EnixLHQ:
Just realized I didn't answer the question.

So, in your example, if you have a lower powered USB then the battery could only ever pull the max it's rated from the current. If the port is 250mA then that is the max you'll get even with fast charge enabled.

However, ratings on cables tend to be guesses based on the materials used and the first fail point on the test run. So because of this it is possible to get 300mA or 400mA out of a 250mA rated cable, but it's not guaranteed since it was made expecting to be lower.

Chad's script can't harm your battery, however, so it's safe to flash the script and get the benefit of it where you happen to be able to. I know it can't harm it because the battery itself has a throttle that is much higher, but is only useful to hit when the phone is off or otherwise not pulling any current to power anything. Only so much "bandwidth", as it were.

Sent from my Incredible with Tapatalk.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
You can't. It just allows you to use all the juice that the port will put out (the full 500+ mA vs the 100mA usb charging spec). That's why I recommended that you only connect it straight to a port or powered hub, not an unpowered hub. If any other devices are on the port it won't work, and you're in danger of drawing too much current from the host. This is also why the user has to choose to enable it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cn0421:
hey im kinda a newb. got chads latest kernal. fast charging. but i was wondering what setcpu settings you have becuase im not really getting good battery life. what do you have your cpu set to right now and what profiles did you add?

thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
your probably just having the same problem i was having. give it a day or two after a couple of full charges. itll settle in soon.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
FWIW, using the smartass governor, the only profile I'm using is to drop to 600 max when battery is below 50%. OC'd at 1133 normally.

Rom: MIUI 1.7.8

The previous poster is correct. The kernal needs a couple of days to "settle in" before you really start seeing results. Unfortunately, if you are constantly flashing ROMs (like I do from time to time), you might not see the results! :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] meazz1:
where is the settings in the MIUI?

can you provide the steps?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
You need to use something like SetCPU (in the market). It is not a MIUI setting.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jacksonroh:
So chad are you suggesting when I plug my phone into my xoom to charge I should disable fast charging?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
im using no frills cpu control, not really profiles, but im fine with it, plus its free
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Yeah, it might be too much draw for a tablet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dmbtimmyb21:
winner00's cm7 build

Highly recommend using chad's latest with winner00's cm7 build. The battery life is ridic (had about 1 day, 2 hrs @ 20% remaining). kernel customization is effin' awesome. THANKS @chad.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JagoX:
Anyone experience any problems running last 3 kernels with OMGB v1.1.2? Can't seem to get it to work at all :confused:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
I have no problems on OMFGB nighties.

Change roms like I change underwear.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bbernardini:
Has anybody ever done a chart comparing the features of various popular ROMs? I've been on CM7 exclusively since I first rooted, but I've seen a lot of buzz about OMFGB.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JagoX:
That's great but if it works with OMFGB but has issues with OMGB, they're not quite the same ;)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
edit: mind this post, was for a different thread:p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Omniel:
Using MIUI 1.7.8 and the 7/6/11 kernel i'm at 23 hours since unplugged and have 50% remaining. The first couple of days I noticed the battery stats seemed to be off and I just did as they suggested and let it settle in. In order to achieve this I am running the max setting in set cpu lower considering that I haven't noticed a difference in running any of the applications or games I play from when it was maxed at 1.113ghz. This kernel and rom combination has been amazing for me and fast charge works remarkably good. I'll post a screen of my time since last unplugged when the phone is close to needing a charge.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] phaze one:
Doesnt work with 1.1.2 OMGB or OMFGB 1.2.0. Its for 2.3.4 not 2.3.3 which OMGB is at the moment and OMFGB 1.2.0 is as well.

No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Omniel:
This is with the 2150 mAh battery.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bbernardini:
What font is that? And what app did you use to apply it? Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Omniel:
I'm running the 1.7.8 MIUI rom with the "Crimp" theme downloaded from their site. As for application it has a built in Theme Manager i used to apply it. These battery statistics are from the base battery statistics option within the roms settings. If anyone is wondering too the current radio i'm running along side is the 2.15.00.07.28.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RegnierD:
Chad,

I'd just like to say that I miss your amazing kernel talent. I traded my DInc for a Fascinate a few weeks ago and while the only kernel choice aside from stock is pretty awesome, it's got nothing on yours. Makes me wish you had a Fascinate to Dev with so we could have your awesome kernels.

Thank you for the hard work you put in for this community, I know it is certainly appreciated and, in my case, missed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Fast Charge

Chad,

I have always been back and forth between you and invisibleks kernels both of which are fantastic. Recently though, it seems as if invisiblek is busy with other things (which is fine! lol it happens to us all) and has not been able to update his kernel. One thing though that kind of tipped the scale in favor of invisibleks was his fast charging, which I think he used from your github for his kernel. The difference though from your kernel to his was weird. His fast charging literally could charge my battery from a wall charge in almost a hour, while yours takes much longer. Since it seems invisiblek may not come back (and recent nightlies and his kernel have not been messing well) I was wondering if you could look into this and possibly incorporate a faster charging scheme into your kernel. That is the top of the list for me at least is fast charging because I am always on the go and to be able to plug my phone in for a 20 minute drive and have it charged 40% is huge. If you could take a look at his github and see if you can get that in there or see what difference he puts in his code...that would rock.

I would also like to say thank you for your continued support of the incredible. I know that one day you will get a new phone and this poor little guy will lose one of its greater developers but when that day comes makes sure to post what phone you got....cause I am going to buy that one too :)

Look forward to your reply!

Martin

P.S. I love the app to control kernel settings....simply amazing man

EDIT: I think invisibleks #28 ASOP froyo had the best fast charging. I think he incorporated it into his last update for ASOP gingerbread though as well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
i have 3500 mah, and im getting no where near 2 days. i can go like 1 day at the most. 3g always on. auto brightness. mild to heavy usage. heavy usage being listening to music, while browsing and reading news.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
You sir got problems then! lol....I have the stock battery and get close to 3 days. I uploaded a picture like possibly 50 pages back maybe 25 lol who knows but yeah you should be getting much better battery life. Also I don't use auto brightness I have it set to 80% and I have it set to top cpu speed with the low of 128. I use music all day, internet, texts, and I last usually 2 days on average and again that is on stock battery :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JohnKuczek:
I have an HTC extended battery, and only get 18 hours on an average day. I don't think there is any problem with that, most of my day is 3G, the only time I get crazy life is when I stay at home and use only wifi.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
I'm certainly not the first one to say it, but it's worth saying again:

It is almost completely pointless for two different people, using two setups, in two different areas, leading completely different lives, to compare their respective battery lives.

Compare the variables that you have in common:

1. HTC Incredible

2. IncrediKernel

Now compare the variables that you don't have in common:

1. Number / type of apps running, including what services they use

2. Frequency of use (it is meaningless for people to say "heave use" or "medium use" given that these are completely subjective judgments)

3. Brightness settings / usage

4. 3G settings / usage / reception

5. GPS settings / usage / reception

6. Wireless settings / usage / reception

The list goes on and on and on... and those are only the big variables.

Give two men the exact same car. If they live in different places, have different commutes, and drive differently, they will always experience different MPG.

Bob: "I get 40 MPG on my IncrediKar! It's amazing!"

Fred: "How do you do that? I only get 20 MPG."

Bob: "You sir got problems then!"

Maybe Fred does have problems, or maybe it's just the fact that Fred does all his driving in the city and Bob does all his on the highway. Maybe if they switched cars, they'd still experience the same respective MPG ratings.

And at least MPG is a rate: it tells you how much was done with that fuel. People aren't even comparing that when they talk about battery depletion: instead they speak about runtime. Would you consider that a meaningful comparison if you heard drivers talking about it?

Jim: "I only need to fill up my tank once a month in my IncrediKar!"

Larry: "Wow! I need to fill up once a week!"

Jim: "You sir got problems then!"

People are trying to compare a hard number that is decided by dozens of variables, with barely the slightest effort to address those variables. It's never going to go anywhere.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Dam dude.............
[Droid Incredible Android Development] x2kjosh:
Right on!!! I have different performance/battery life at home than I do at work, all because of the 3G signal strength... lots of factors, lots of variables... lots....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bbernardini:
How much is radio a factor in all of this? Flashing different radios is pretty much the only thing I haven't experimented with a great deal. I may be doing it a lot next week, as I'm heading to Maine, and I'm staying someplace with a pretty poor signal. May have to load up the SD card with as many radios as I can find and experiment. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
i have gps off mostly. i only use it on a certain day. not today tho. i wish i could get the battery life you are getting. i kill apps frequently, i have 3g always on. not using wifi at all today. brightness on auto, sound off, vibrate off. and cpu at 998 and 128. on smartass. i should be getting great battery life.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EnixLHQ:
He's right, though. The only hard measurement we could rate is mA per hour, but as he pointed out it's still subjective.

Two people with identical cars and MPG rating will still get different actual MPG values if one drives cautiously and never speeds and the other floors it from light to light and drives recklessly. Same distance, same path, different MPG.

Sent from my Incredible with Tapatalk.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Testingchip:
How long have you been using the same kernal? Have you done a few complete change cycles as Chad suggested?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Goalieman009:
That's not the stock battery..reading app..thingy is it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
uh about a week ago, when i installed the new one
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
reading app? and no its 3500mAh, seidio battery. i should be getting amazing life if people can get 2 days out of the stock. i should be getting double or almost triple theirs.

heres this..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jacksonroh:
Why are you frequently killing applications? If they're applications you're using daily there is no reason to kill them. Killing the app then using it later is using a lot of battery. If a application is sitting in the ram it doesn't necessarily mean it's using the battery. Killing applications then starting them again later is making the cpu work, killing the battery. I never kill an application unless it's acting up and in my experience I'm getting about two days out of stock battery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
killing them because they are apps that im not even using or care to use. ill go the rest of the day without killing them. but i dont like apps just starting without me even opening them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jacksonroh:
This is probably why. They're going to keep starting unless you freeze them or delete them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
alright ill freeze them.

just one of them. im down to 50% in a few hours:/.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
While I agree there is to many variables to make a clear concise factor as to why his battery life is worse we can factor in constants.

-He is app killing

-His battery should last longer because it is not stock

-Is he using any optimizer apps to stop apps from auto starting?

-I am on CM7 he is on MIUI

-With chads kernel you should be able to get at least a fulls days worth of use (SHOULD! not a fact but his kernel is heavily optimized)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
That's part of android. Apps start to take up ram.

Change roms like I change underwear.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
not using any optimizer

i dont understand the bad life. ill stop killing apps, and see how it goes. i still could use some help and answers on it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] watt9493:
Try watchdog. I think its perfect for android

Change roms like I change underwear.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jacksonroh:
Couldn't agree more. It checks to see what's using the cpu not what's in the ram. Everything a task killer should be
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
yeh i had it before, i didnt backup tho. i just got it again tho. and ill remove my old task killer
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jacksonroh:
Hope this helps. Report back to us after a couple days and let us know how it's going
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
i will. still dropping grr. droped 5% in 4 minutes
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Look in the market for something called "optimize tool box". I believe it is the best single handed program for android optimization. Along with being able to customize what starts up, cache cleaning, start up times, it gives comprehensive data about your rom, ram, and cpu, app manager, network manager, power saving options and even a handy dandy file explorer. Its all of the above wrapped into one neat package.

EDIT: here is the market link https://market.android.com/details?id=cn.opda.a.phonoalbumshoushou&hl=en ENJOY!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
im downloading now. looks nice, ill see how it does for me. when i try and openthe power stuff i get an fc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Did you post screen shots of what is using your battery? If you didn't can you please post. I'm gonna go back a few pages and check now if you did.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Your display is really the only thing using up your battery so possibly is your disply turning on when you put your phone in your pocket? What do you have your turn of screen time set to? Other than that possibly a bad battery? I have had my phone off the charger now for a hour and only gone down 3% and again I am using stock battery. Things that do not make sense for you is that your battery is literally twice the capacity of mine so you should be getting almost/roughly double the usage on that fact alone. Do you have lots of stuff syncing all the time like exchange/facebook/etc?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
i did but its a long list and requires multiple multiple screen shots
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Beezwhammer:
ill give the stock battery a try when i get back from vaca. also im 99 percent sure it doesnt turn on in my pocket. i have it auto off after 5 min. also auto syncing is off, and just background is on, for my weather and email.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rayfin:
I'm running 2.6.38.8 incredikernel 07/06/2011 (1353).

Ever since I flashed it, I'm having all sorts of WiFi issues. My WiFi will just stop working in the middle of browsing. I have to toggle WiFi or go 3G to continue browsing. WiFi stays connected the entire time however whatever app I was using loses network connectivity.

Flashing back to 6-19.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Sounds like your network was having a bad day. There is 100% no difference between the wifi implementation in 6/19 and 7/06.

@everyone:

http://www.incredikernel.com/?page_id=41/general-discussion-qa/incredicontrol/

I need opinions regarding the fourth post in that thread.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jacksonroh:
I like the first one with sliders
[Droid Incredible Android Development] phaze one:
+1, sliders

No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Testingchip:
Voted for sliders on your site so gonna be vote sliders here too. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crondable:
I like the sliders, but I would also like to see the numbers displayed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
Chad,

I hold you in very high regard, so I hope this doesn't come across as disrespectful, but I just wanted to speak my piece.

I find your choice to create a separate discussion forum disappointing. At first, I thought it might just run as a secondary spot, but you have since requested that betas only be discussed there rather than here. Now, we're engaged in an odd hybrid conversation with a post asking us to go there, but people responding here.

I know that you are not alone in your choice: a number of developers have recently decided to create their own sites and discussion forums, separate from XDA. I realize that there are a multitude of factors that could motivate a dev to do this: more control / better organization over discussions, frustration with some of the childishness that takes place here at XDA, ad revenue, etc.

I'm sure there are other reasons, and each dev has to balance many choices, but I think that routing discussion away from XDA hurts both the community and the developer. I don't think it is a sustainable model. A few loyal users will migrate, but it won't be enough for long term success. People can barely keep up with all the discussion on XDA much less a rom site discussion forum, kernel site discussion forum, XDA, plus whatever other forums they like. It gets to be too much, and growth will be stunted. The collective effect will decrease the amount of feedback on betas, ideas will be shared less openly, and the larger community will lose track of the progress of each smaller community.

I am not saying you are bad, selfish, or anything like that. You are extremely generous with your time, knowledge, skill, and effort. I am sure that you do not receive nearly enough donations to reflect the amount of work you put in. And I ultimately respect your personal choice on this matter, even if I disagree with it.

The only alternative I might suggest would be to keep forum discussion here, but keep your site/blog/download so that you can still have a central source for news updates and downloads, as well as hopefully getting some ad-revenue. From what I have observed here (as well as other communities), that seems to be the most successful long-term model.

Asking that beta discussion be kept on the incredikernel forum seems like it will ultimately limit feedback. I have been a die-hard incredikernel user for a long time now, and will most likely continue to use it, but I don't want to monitor an entire new forum just to discuss it. You'll get fewer trouble posts, but you'll also get fewer helpful posts.

Of course, I am not in your shoes, so I can't say that I know any more about this than you (or anyone else). Just offering my point of view as someone who deeply appreciates and respects your work.

All the best,

Byron
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cheez99:
Chad, any chances the IncrediControl application would give us control over headphone jack volumes? I'd like to have a way to slightly increase the output volume.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] HoochieCoo:
You could use DSP Manager and enable dynamic range compression for the headset.