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[Droid Incredible Android Development] Solar257:
Got it, especially with the extended battery I've already stepped up to a 1500mah battery. So if I'm looking for battery life with possible sacrifices in responsiveness, the earlier kernels are perfectly fine? The thing about the newer kernels is that I wonder how they compare to using a stock kernel with conservative or OnDemand + power bias governor with SetCPU, when looking at battery life. I haven't found an app that makes me say "I need 1ghz," not that they don't exist but if I can't perceive any decrease in performance then I'll try to save battery life. I'll have to try out the new multi-touch features sometime.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ilhe1s:
Before 12-23-2010-2 Kernel

Linpack: 28-30 MFLOPS

NeoCore: 29 FPS

Quad: 1180-1230

Battery stats varied but they were never that good.

I did flash the new CW mod yesterday before I flashed the new kernel so it could be the culprit.

Sent from my HTC DROID InKredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apaxi:


Glad I could finally contribute something to these forums! I've been lurking since August when I got my Incredible. Thanks for the great kernels, Chad! My wife rolls her eyes now whenever I tell her I flashed a new kernel! :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gornul:
What's the best way to flash back to 2.5.0.5? ROM Manager is only showing me the 2.5.1.1 as the oldest version to flash back to?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
Here's a listing of all recoveries and devices, just choose the one you want.

http://koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries/
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 29629:
I flashed the new clockwork and i am currently running the new experimental kernel. Getting great battery life nad no more of the freezing issues. Scalled from 128/1036. I had two point multi touch all along and still do.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gornul:
I had found that page already, I guess the more accurate question would be what do I do with those .img files?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ilhe1s:
Download the zip file and put on the root of your sd card and flash via clockwork mod.

I did this and got my 5 point MT back. Funny thing is ROM manager still says I have the 2.5.1.2 clockwork mod installed.

Sent from my HTC DROID InKredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 999vulcan:
I am runnning clockwork 2.5.0.5, no multitouch with your or Lou's #6.

ATMEL_x004F_x0016

Why would one need more than 2 points anyway?

What apps take advantage of it?

Also, I have had my phone spontaneously warm reboot at least once while charging after about 2 days of uptime.

I'm running 2.6.32.27-12232010 kernel and Senseless rEVOlution 1.0

Do you think it might be kernel-related?

If it happens again I will try Lou's #4 and see if it is more stable that way.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Okay here is the procedure I want you to follow to attempt to get back (or maybe get to begin with) multi touch.

Download and install an older version of ROM manager:

http://chad0989.dyndns.org/ROM Manager (2.5.0.2).apk

Click on flash clockworkmod recovery to downgrade to 2.5.0.5

Reboot

Open up rom manager and re-install the latest kernel.

Let me know how it goes.

This is what worked for me.

SLCD users beware, I think there's issues with older recoveries and slcds.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parkson:
Great work done here. Since multitouch kernels came on the scene and I've never been able to use them on my amoled inc until now. Just tested using multitouch app and this did the trick! Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
Chad your awesome thanks for figuring out the bug :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Thank apaxi, he's the one that noticed that multitouch stopped working after he flashed to the new clockworkmod. I'm going to play around and see if I can make/modify a custom recovery to hopefully get the issue squared away once and for all.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] amonra50:
Wow, who would have thunk it... 5 point multitouch is now working on my device... for some reason this mostly pointless mod has me grinning from ear to ear. thanks to everyone involved in figuring this out..

so even tho the bamod 1.0 recovery is supposedly based on the cwm 2.5.0.5, it does not work with the multitouch kernels..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apaxi:
Not sure why, but flashing back to 2.5.0.5 also fixed another issue I was having where the bottom flash LED would no longer light up when using the camcorder or flashlight app. Chad or koush, how would recovery be tied to the multi touch and flash LED issues?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dpwhitty11:
I have CWM 2.5.0.5 but still don't get any multitouch.

AMOLED, btw.

*EDIT*

Also, idk if it matters or not, but my HBOOT is .92 and I'm running a Desire Z rom with the 11.19 EVO radio.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] 999vulcan:
So, what would one use multitouch for?

What useful apps support more than 2 fingers?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
Emulators
[Droid Incredible Android Development] caleris:
I am on 2.5.1.2 and I am getting multi touch.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
So it appears my home internet is just dumb, because it loaded just fine on my phone.. In any case, it appears to be a group of people who like your Kernel and are spreading it lol. One guy said something about how using the .27 kernel resulted in him losing WiFi, so he was going back to the .26 versions, and the rest have no problems so far. I'm just confused as to why they'd be going on that forum when I'm assuming they can read English (as they have an Incredible, which unless I'm mistaken somehow, is linked to Verizon)? I don't know lol, but if you need me to look into anything specific, let me know :P
[Droid Incredible Android Development] milesnapue:
Niiice, this worked flawlessly for me. Hell I did all this while waiting to get a haircut. All done with 5 finger multitouch. Now to find a use for that...Emulators I guess was mentioned
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ilhe1s:
The multitouch comes in handy when playing Mortal kombat Ultimate 3 with Sub Zero for his Ground Slide: Back + Low Punch + Low Kick + Block.

Just an example.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mightyjohn:
Running magnolia RC1 with this kernel and I still have only 2 touch points. I am and have always used 2.5.05. Out of all of the kernels now that talk about the 3-10 point touch, none of them work for me.

EDIT: Mine is SLCD and am running the CWMR mod to fix the white line issue with the SLCD screens.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
I was running a 2.5.0.5 mod and UT didn't work it started when I used the official one
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bast525:
:( after 70 hours of uptime it happened again.... CPU pegged 100%. System panel shows the system process "system" is the one that is using all the CPU, but it cant be force closed. Only a reboot fixes it :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
So reboot your phone ever few days... boom fixed
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rynosaur:
That worked for me too: 5 points with Chad's latest kernel, hboot .92, radio 11.19, and an original AMOLED screen.

Thanks for the bump, the find and the great kernel, Chad!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dpwhitty11:
Wait so if CWM is modded like with the super scrolling mod then the multi touch won't work?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
Thats why it didn't work for me

Unused the super scrolling nod and had no five point flashed the real recovery and I now have it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Anyone else try this out yet?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10087649&postcount=976

Still need feedback in order to make a decision.

And thank you for letting me know what was going on over at diypda, xShin.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apaxi:
Disregard... something else must be causing my bottom LED to not light up. It stopped working again yesterday afternoon. Not sure if this is due to a ROM, kernel, or just my Incredible hardware malfunctioning.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Hand76:
I was the first to post on this about a month ago with another kernal version.

BUT it seems the problem stopped when I stopped changing the govenor in SetCpu and used the one the kernal comes with.

Only problem for me since is I am stuck with the smartass govenor which I dislike.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbeitel:
i flashed back to 2.5.0.5 clockworkmod and reinstalled the 12-23 kernal again but i only have 2 point MT, i installed lous 10pt #6 kernal and i only have 2 there too. Is the device not capable or is there something else i should be checking. i really like the battery life of this kernel.

i have amoled screen and redemption rom. i think my clockwork has scroll, all i did was download it from the koush site posted, not sure where to get one that doesnt.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rfarrah:
Why are you stuck with that governor?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apaxi:
Here you go, Chad. This is the average of 5 runs each. Linpack was all over the place as the CPU was scaling differently during each test.

Original 12/23 kernel

Quadrant: 1405.8

Linpack: 25.4696

12-23-2 kernel

Quadrant: 1421.4

Linpack: 23.2574

I would say the results are inconclusive. Do you want the data from each run instead of averages?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cu-n-az:
Donation on the way...

Thanks Chad for all the excellent work on these kernels! I see that you now have a donation link in the OP, so here's a bit of Christmas cheer to help motivate you to keep this development rolling along. Your work is appreciated!

Confirmation: 9EM92997WW1203515 :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cu-n-az:
Awesome battery conservation!

I'm running the 12/23 kernel (not the -2 version) and have been getting excellent battery life. This was admittedly with very light use, but yesterday I noted 1 day, 15 hrs, 9 min since unplugged and I still had 35% remaining!

Awesome!

(I grabbed a screen shot, but I'm not sure how to include it in this post...)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dpwhitty11:
YES going back to CWM 2.5.0.5 fixes everything!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] atpa8a:
Downgrading Clockwork recovery worked for me to get the MT which I never had before.

Thank you all.

Going to try to upgrade it now see if MT will stick.

Edit: still have multitouch after I upgraded the ROM Manager and Clockwork recovery.

This is sweet!

Question tho... is there an info in the phone if its LCD or AMOLED?

--

AT
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nagasgura:
Random Reboots

Recently I've been getting many random reboots. Is there a fix for this?

Also, today the battery life was terrible. by 2 PM it was down to 60%.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

p.s. I have clockworkmod 2.5.0.5 but I still have these issues. Also, the touchscreen (amoled) is sometimes unresponsive when I reboot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
Go to settings then about phone then hardware version that will tell you if its 02(amoled) or 03 slcd
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
It could be related to some voltage changes I made recently. Some devices may not like it, I'll probably back them off a little in the next release. In the future I may include the sysfs interface so users can tweak their own voltages if they're having a stability issue.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
I'd love yo be able to tweak the voltages I think my phone agrees with low ones. Keep up the good work Chad your doing an awesome thing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nagasgura:
Thanks. Do you know when you'll release the next version? What should I do in the meantime?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nagasgura:
How exactly does it help with emulators? Just wondering, because I've always had trouble with the emulator controls.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
It allows you to hit more then two buttons at once
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nagasgura:
What kernel should I use in the time being (preferably one that doesn't have the voltage changes)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tsoms:
Hey even after installing this kernel my quadrant scores are in the very low 1000s even though the rest of the phone is running really smooth, quick and well. Anyone have any ideas as to why that could be happening?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DaGunn:
I wouldn't be too concerned about quadrant scores. What is important is that your phone runs smoothly, no lags, no over-heating, cpu doesn't flip-flop between min and max frequencies, and the battery takes you through the day
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tsoms:
Ya I know they don't matter all that much, my phone has just always had trouble with quadrant and I'm just trying to figure out why

ps. the most recent kernel is great so far for skyraider 3.5 besides the low scores for some reason. I especially love how quickly it now charges. good stuff keep it up
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbeitel:
does someone have the 2.5.0.5 clockwork without the smooth scroll, koush's link has it already built in and i want to try to get my multitouch working.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] itisjustme:
I took on the 2512 recovery today and lost my multitouch. I do have a 2505 but how should it be flashed to the inc?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DaGunn:
Flash the older Rom manager that was posted above, includes 2.5.05 clockwork. Then you can install the newer version of rom manager, but don't update clockwork.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EnixLHQ:
How does the recovery mess with the multi-touch, anyway?

I'm one of the unlucky ones where I have the SLCD and only two touches each time I flash this. Not really all that unlucky as the screen doesn't dent my battery by very much at all, so I'm not crying over it.

But, what about the recovery version would impact how the kernel is installed? Would that mean the driver could be written and deployed separately? Would the recovery block that?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bast525:
I didn't even have setcpu installed since upgrading to the 12-23 kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Use one from before 12/21 and you should be fine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
I'm not exactly sure exactly why the recovery affects it. I built the 2.5.0.9 recovery with my kernel in place of the stock recovery kernel and it seems to work fine so I'm guessing it has something to do with the recovery kernel. Not positive though. I'm still messing with it. I'll release something for people to try out when I get something I feel is good for general consumption.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ilhe1s:
The way I got MT back is that I went and downloaded the 2.5.0.5 zip from koush's site and flashed it via the recovery. I got my MT back and figured this would be a lot easier than installing an older version of ROM Manager.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbeitel:
Ok. I did the downgrade of clockwork and now I have 3 points. Any idea how to get 5?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] galaara98:
Hmmm i went and grabbed th 2.5.0.5 zip but cant seem to install it. If i do it from recovery it shows 2.5.0.5 for only one boot. If i try PB31IMG.zip on sdcard it 'parses' it but then ignores... what am i missing
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apaxi:
Follow Chad's directions in the op to install the older CWM recovery. You can also search for the 2.5.0.5 PB31IMG zip if you want to install CWM via HBOOT.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] galaara98:
I have the zip,but hboot just parses it and continues... but ill just uses the other way :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apaxi:
For anyone else experiencing the bottom dual-LED not functioning issue, I figured it out. I have the HTC extended battery, and the extended battery cover apparently puts pressure on the bottom LED that causes it to lose connection to the PCB. If I push down on the cover, it lights up. I will try switching back to my stock battery + cover, but I am not a happy camper. I don't want to turn my AMOLED Inc in for a refurbished SLCD.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apaxi:
I can send you the PB31IMG zip that I used in HBOOT if you want... let me know.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] amonra50:
There are a couple versions of the touch controller hardware; one version allows 5 points, the other version only allows 3 points max.

run this command:

adb shell cat /sys/android_touch/vendor

or if you have a terminal emulator installed on your phone just:

cat /sys/android_touch/vendor

if it returns ATMEL_x0080_x0016 the hardware will support 5 points

if it returns ATMEL_x004F_x0016 the hardware will only support 3 points max
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tsoms:
What is the difference between the 2.6.32.27 kernel and the 2.6.32.27-2 kernel?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pkmn760:
So based on what you are saying I have five point touch..but why is my phone only allowing two? I have sky raider 3.5, chads latest kernel, and I tried both cw 2.5.0.5 and 2.5.1.2.

Is there no hardware that limits to two?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] itisjustme:
I gave this a try to get back to 2505 but the rom I am using has rom manager baked in so I cant fully uninstall it. Anyone have any other suggestions for returning to 2505 of clockworks recovery?

PS I did also try unrevoked and choosing custom recovery and selecting 2505 image but I am still at 2512
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Did you follow this post to downgrade?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10100653&postcount=996
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
ignore this.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trailmug:
Same for me with 12/21 - happened about three times over several days. I checked out top, and the offending process showed as "system_server (PID 102)." I kill -15'ed that, which caused the phone to redo the boot animation and restart userland, but when everything came back up, it was still pegged. Thinking this is "sys" CPU time that just happens to be attributed to system_server in top. Running Virtuous 3.2.0. A friend had the same issue, and said he had no such trouble with 12/13-2, so I'm gonna check that out. Chad, let me know if you want me to guinea pig anything.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Okay, I've been sort of ignoring this issue because I honestly believe it has absolutely nothing to do with the kernel (hence why people seem to say they've tried every kernel under the sun but it still happens). This issue has been around for a long time. It apparently plagues both eclair and froyo and can be the result of a lot of things. I'm betting the problem will disappear when we have some solid gingerbread roms.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jbeitel:
thanks, i tried it and apparently i will only get 3 points max, bah!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
I only get 3 too. No worries, what are you really going to use more than 3 touch points for?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] itisjustme:
Ok I now have 2509 but after flashing the kernel again I still don't have Milti touch back.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omgi0wn:
Do we really have to go through all this work to get the multitouch to work? Mine supports 5 or more but I'm only getting 2 at the moment.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EnixLHQ:
Based on the script, I'm a 3-toucher. But, being an SLCD display I run a good risk of botching my recovery with any new (or old) CWM recovery being put on my phone. Thankfully for me I have an old recovery that I know works (set as a PB31IMG.zip) and the newest one officially released works just fine.

So I'm hesitant to try to mess with my recovery just to get multi-touch. Not really worth it for a 3rd touch point, seeing as no game is made to use more than two right now (two thumbs!).

Rather, I'd keep the focus on developing a good kernel. So far, chad's kernels are doing well for my phone, but only for a day or so where I get a reboot. Stock kernel still is the most stable. I know this doesn't offer a lot of information, but as the kernel itself gets ironed out I'm sure the stability will increase.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omgi0wn:
Also, one more question. Does this kernel support 802.11n wireless? Because I'm right next to my router but my phone is only reporting speeds of 54mbs when I check the Wi-Fi connection list.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nagasgura:
I still have no multitouch. Before I updated CWM, I had 5 points, but now I have only two. (I used the PB31IMG.zip by the way).

How can I get multitouch back???
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pkmn760:
It should although I have not tested it should only work on the 2.4 ghz n band and pretty much only allow a longer distance..buy don't quote me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pkmn760:
As they said on previous pages try and revert to an older cwm 2.5.0.5
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nagasgura:
I did that with no luck :(

Doesn't the PB31IMG.zip give you 2.5.0.9 anyway?

Edit: I just checked rom manager and I have 2.5.0.5 installed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] heffe2001:
With the previous multi-touch kernel, using the newest rom manager (and directly with the latest recovery), I could only get the normal 2 touches we've always had. Downgrading the rom manager & clockwork, I now get a total of 5 multitouchs.. Thanks for the little workaround :D.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
What kernel are you using? Also try downgrading through ROM manager like posted earlier. The image I posted was a [failed] attempt I made for those who can't downgrade ROM manager
[Droid Incredible Android Development] stopthebus:
Thanks,

Works as advertised. Useless at the moment, but good to know it's there.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nagasgura:
I'm using the kernel from 12/20/10. I downgraded rom manager, but do I have to reflash the kernel?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Yes you have to reflash the kernel after the downgrade.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nagasgura:
I just tried it and it still doesn't work. Also, the apps on my sd cards aren't showing up :(
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
You follow this post exactly?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10100653&postcount=996

Even if it says you have 2.5.0.5, click on flash clockwork mod recovery anyway.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
No, 802.11n drains your battery. I feel the cost/benefit ratio isn't good, especially since most peoples net connection isn't anywhere near 54mbps.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nagasgura:
I clicked flash clockwork mod recovery, but it wouldn't boot into recovery. I had to flash the PB31IMG.zip to just get it to load. As far as I know, the PB31IMG.zip contains 2.5.0.9 instead of 2.5.0.5
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
are you slcd? After you click flash clockwork mod recovery from the downgraded rom manager it should just have a bar come across the top that flashes, then reboot the phone, don't boot into recovery, you can use the downgraded rom manager to flash the kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
For those of you who had reboots with the lowered voltages, here's 10/23 with the voltages increased to where they were before.

http://chad0989.dyndns.org/2.6.32.27-incredikernel-12232010-plus25v.zip
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nagasgura:
I am on AMOLED. When I click reboot into recovery it just brings me to the bootloader. When I click recovery inside of the bootloader, I just restarts the bootloader.

When I flash a kernel, doesn't it have to launch clockworkmod in order to complete the installation? I tried it, but again, it only brought me to the bootloader with no way of getting to recovery. The only way I could make it go to recovery was to use the PB31IMG.zip that you posted earlier.