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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frozen-GPU:
Hi guys!

I have a strange problem: If I open up TaskManager on my Desire (LeeDroid 2.2e), I see that Google Maps is opened 4 times, sometimes 3 times, but not only once... What could it be?

Me and my friends are using Latitude and Talk, maybe one of these apps are showing up as Google Maps in the TaskManager?

:confused:

Someone help please...

Radio: 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30

ROM: LeeDroid 2.2e

Phone: Desire AMOLED (S-OFF)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frozen-GPU:
Push! No one here who knows something about that issue?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] waterskier33:
Hi all xda folks

I am starting this thread because I thing there is no proper solution to long gps fix time problem. I want to share my observation with a hope of helping solve this little prob. In most other ways our android port is solid and in my opinion comparable with most native android devices.

Now to avoid people saying that I just didn't search the forum I'm aware of partial solutions like :

1) Using Gps status app to download A-Gps data

2) Using WM QuickGps to download gps data using WM

3) Switching to proper gps region using gps.conf

...

Now I would like to sugest (from my point of view of humble user;-) )possible solutions for the devs but don't get me wrong I don't mean it to offense anyone.

I'm not a dev just trying to help.

1) Write something what does exactly that thing what QuickGPS does just to do it from Android environment

//Cause right after QuickGPS download fix times are minimal

//This would be enough fix for me ;-)

2) Find out what is wrong with current gps drver or any a-gps or any things helping to get faster fixes

To the second point a have an observation I wanted to share. When using GPS Test app to get fix on HD2 you don't see the signal strength bars before you get fixed. But as I saw on Desire the bars show up immediately and just change color when you get to the fix. But its just a hint. I don't know if it does mean anything.

Desire screen !!!

This is quite everything I wanted to say please don't stone me I mean no offense to anyone
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] songokussm:
in my experience its build specific.

every desire build I've used (currently m-deejay's revolution) has the gps issue.

Cyanogen Builds do not (currently using michyprima's Everyday Builds).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sterz85:
pretty much
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
Cyanogen builds can have the issue too, I've had major problems on shubcraft and very slow locking on hyperdroid.

The main problem is that Android can't write data to the gps chip yet, which is necessary to be able to use the 'a' from aGPS. (That's exactly what QuickGPS does, and because it's written to the gps chip, Android can access it but not update it.)

So unless someone manages to give Android write access, I don't think there's a whole lot we can do, except for the known gps.conf and libgps tricks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JonSolo:
And that would easily explain why it works in WinMo...but does not clearly explain why some users have quick lock in Android (I am not one..mine takes 3-5 minutes sometimes).

Jon
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
I'm not too sure either, but I think it may be because of QuickGPS too. I noticed there's an option to enable gps data download whenever activesync is enabled. Most people boot bank into WinMo for installing a new build, kernel or whatever, and would that way actually run QuickGPS at least once every week. But I'm by no means an expert, this is just what seems to me a plausible explanation.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Sichroteph:
I thought quickgps "just" go to internet, and download the satellites positions into a text file? If you don't do that on wm the first gps lock is slow, the second on a same period is quick because the phone now knows where they are. Too bad android can't so that for now, maybe with gingerbread...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] waterskier33:
So please can someone of you who say that its build specific post the build and kernel with which it is working you get fix in less then lets say 15 secs?

Thanx
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] StephanV:
First part is true, problem is that WinMo can store these files on the gps chip, Android can't. Android can only read data from this chip, hence QuickGPS being a valid fix.

Android can of course do this, we just can't on our HD2, so gingerbread ain't gonna fix any of that.

I believe I've had it fixed in shubcraft 2.0, JDMS 1.6 did a pretty good job too. Might've been total coincidence though, I'm still not sure if any of this is build related.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] waterskier33:
Today I asked on #htc-linux and it seem that devs don't see the problem I spoke with markinus and he told me that he has fix in about 4 sec. So maybe it is not kernel problem.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] torquadon:
I still have huge problems with GPS. Doesn't matter what ROM or radio I use it doesn't lock, or lock after 1-5 min. Outside or inside doesn't change anything. It's not a problem with week signal, my friend with HTC wildfire get it within seconds sitting next to me. I use kwbr rom with 2.15 radio.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lukesan:
I find this pretty strange.

With quickgps you have to download the data, you really see a progress when downloading, and the file goes to the windows directoy. xtra.bin is the filename.

If you remove that file and reboot the phone you have to wait a long time to get a gps fix again.

In Android you have no clue if it downloads it, and where does it go? Try to do a search on that file. I got 0 results so I actually wonder where it is and even if it works?
[Vibrant General] chan_max:
1, When Gmail got new mails, all mails no matter new ones or old ones became BOLD font.

2, In former web browser, if drag vertical, the horizontal dragging is auto locked. But now it's flexible.

How to set or fix?
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Mine is not bold.

I'm not sure what you are asking in #2
[Vibrant General] Kevinmac2049:
my gmail is not bold lol ?

and

i have had both 2.0.4 and 2.0.5

i dont have any problems with both them.
[Vibrant General] mariopm2005:
Does gps "work" with this build?
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
^gps is perfect
[Vibrant General] Zylograth:
Try not ending a statement with a question mark, everything else just works out
[Vibrant General] tjhart85:
He spaced the question mark away from the sentence to show that he was confused.

OP:

I also am not having the first issue and have no clue what you are trying to say with the second.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
The OP is correct, everything in Gmail does stay bold!

I didn't notice this at first, but the OP is correct. Everything in Gmail is bold, including already read emails!

I don't know if this is Axura's problem or Gmail App, but it sure is annoying. It's hard to differentiate which emails you already read and which are new when everything is bold!!! :mad::mad::mad:
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
^ white is unread, gray is read. The emails are not bold... I assume you guys mean the inbox. I thought it was always like this, perhaps it's the font.
[Vibrant General] gatesmarch123:
Lies, lies!! Although my gps locks rather quickly...it's about as accurate as Brett Favre this season. Horrendous. One minute I'm on my porch...the next minute I'm 8 blocks away.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adesonic:
I really like WP7, I recognise that it has some missing features but I am confident the se will be addressed with time. My concern is that anybody considering WP7 who reads this forum (or a plethora of other websites) could be easily put off by the negativity displayed by:-

1) Android/ IOS trolls

2) Disenchanted WM6.5 users who still want to spend their lives tweaking and cooking

Roms

3) People with an irrational fear of "the cloud".

4) Journalists who are desperate for MS to fail (because they are not Apple or Google

and thus not trendy!)

My question is, what can those of us who have faith in the platform do to balance the arguments a bit? I'm not talking about fanboism, I'm talking about expounding the positive features of WP7 like one note, like cloud sync, like the people hub, like the fast browser, like XBox integration for gamers (even though I do not use that much), like the easy access camera, like Zune and Zune Pass, like the fluid interface, like 25Gb of FREE Skydrive etc.

For example, I have a 16Gb HD7 with 25Gb skydrive means that to me I have a 41Gb device - more than my Ipad (see, I am platform agnostic).

If those of us who like WP7 do not actively support it, it will go the way of WebOS no matter how much Microsoft spend on their marketing budget.

WP7 is a revolution, let's get revolutionary about it!!!!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartyLK:
I'm with ya, WP7 brother. I try to do my part by telling it like it is, being the highest quality mobile OS yet released, but who knows if it is having fruitful effect.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justinxtreme:
I'm with you too :)

It may be missing some features but just by looking at it, you can see that once Microsoft does implement the missing features it will look a lot better than Android's.

It's the first OS that's actually impressed me ever since iPhone came out.

I liked Android but it felt unfinished and I felt that buying one was not a good investment, since by the next year they would stop handing out updates for it and they would release a device frequently.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GenkaiMade:
Hell yeah! Let's do this thing!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Gate Keeper:
you want to know the best way to promote windows phone? allow people to use it. i've shown my phone to virtually all my friends, and they all really like it. though they didn't use it for very long, they liked the capabilities of the OS in terms of smoothness, visual appearance, and functionality (well with what they played with).

i think we really just need to see MS continue to better the platform both on the phone side, but also on the developer side. they need to get the SDKs for all the hardware out asap, and then work on more SDKs that will bring features not yet on the market by any other maker. what could this be? who knows... but MS has enough in their coffers to find out, as well as enough R&D going on.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GenkaiMade:
^this! I've already had one person wish they hadn't got a desire - let's keep this up!

You know what Microsoft need though right? A huge pr stunt in the US, UK, France, Germany etc. Just to catch the headlines and make sure that good things are said :)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eternalemb:
+1. I'm very glad to have gotten this phone and once the first update is out I'll be even happier. All my friends who have been on the fence about a new phone have heard from me!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] f1restarter:
For me the WP7 is perfect in the sense that I am done with the whole power user/modding thing. I used to have a TP2 and tried a lot of ROMs but in the end I just wanted a phone that did two things i.e fluid and give me exactly the information I needed at a glance so I could get on with my life rather than tinker with it all the damn time. And this is where the WP7 serves me very well.

I see a lot of 6.5 users whining here but I truly wish they had done a bit of reading on the WP7 platform so they would know that the WP7 is going to be nothing like the 6.5 and I truly hope it never will be because MS will permanently lose me to android. I'm glad I gave WP7 a chance after reading up on it even though I had washed my hands off the WM platform after the 6.5 nightmare.

Probably the biggest reason I'm enjoying the WP7 is because I knew fully well before buying the phone what features to expect and what it won't have out of the box so that saved me the headache of buying first and then whining about it in these forums. I mean what part of 1.0 don't you understand? Personally I think the 6.5 fan boys are even worse than android fan boys. For me the 6.5 offers quantity over quality and I guess some people are fine with that but not me and that's why I chose WP7.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GenkaiMade:
Mm, the 6.5 people are really starting to piss me off. They seem to think that WP7 is a sequel to WM6.5 - which it quite obviously isn't. Microsoft are quite obviously trying to forget WM, as it was, and still is, total rubbish. At least the Android guys actually have a semi-decent OS to whine about :/
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juto1:
It Will Get Better.

adesonic you have my support ,just wait for the updates and be happy.:D
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nrfitchett4:
I agree with everything said. Winmo users hate it because they can't tweak it (though it doesn't need tweaks so you can actually use the phone instead of always trying to fix it).

Android users are complaining about how "closed" it is. I think android is the one that needs to worry. Android has climbed quickly due to it's "open" nature, which means its on more devices than any other OS. The problem being is that most of those devices are pure crap. There is definitely not an across the board experience on android. Hell, some devices are still on 1.5/1.6 of android. Fragmentation has exploded at a much higher rate than on winmo, which has started to lead to developer frustration because their apps don't run smoothly on all phones.

I see the really dedicated tweakers heading over to android, and people that only tweaked to make their phone run properly to switch to wp7. It will be a better overall OS in the next year than android.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yly3:
Happy to see some people still face the reality. Thumbs up
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] root beer:
I love my Omnia 7 as unlike 6.5 I have not yet reset the phone since I have purchased it and it's still running silky fast. And thank god for not having a task manager and just hitting the back button. I never want to go back to fiddling with my phone to try and get it running properly.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brummiesteven:
I had a G1 when it was first released and upgraded to a Desire. In my opinion, this is why WP7 will do better than Android has...

Peoples Reactions:

Desire: "Oh you have a HTC?"

HD7: "Oh you have one of them new Windows Phones?"

The point? People know what Windows Phone 7 is. The only reason why Android has been successful up to now (in the UK at least) is because people want a smartphone with apps. 90% of the people I know who have an Android device had no idea what Android was before they bought the phone (and some still don't really understand). Google do little to no marketing.

Soon people will walk into a shop looking for a HTC AND be further persuaded by Windows Phone.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ohgood:
i thought this was supposed to be a positive thread, specifically for wp7 ? it seems like just another comparison thread, or a "but we're doing good stuff now too!" thread.

anyway, i like the OP's idea of being a positive promoter. you may find it easiest to just start a youtube channel with your mission stated, and provide good tips, avoiding buzzwords, all while filtering the negative. people relate to a video demonstration of capabilities so very well.

good luck :)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ohgood:
i've not seen a 'you have htc' comment, once.

here, in the southeastern US, people ask "Is that a google phone ?". associating google + phone = awesome; is what it seems to be. at family/friend gatherings, i have yet to see a wp7 device. the wp6.x holdouts that i've personally known have changed to iphone or more commonly, android. phone envy ? i dunno, possibly. it seems more than anything the young folks i run into -know- the iphone from 30 feet away, know the android devices from 10 feet away, and know wp7 is still beta ware. i'm sorry, but that's the impression the young folks have here.

that being said, the older (than me) folks tend to gravitate to iphones. the large, easily read/understood apps and icons seem to attract them, along with the ease of use with their newish apple desktops. at physical therapy a few weeks ago, one gentleman was commenting about a recipe his aunt emailed him. on his phone. then he facetime'd her, and showed her the exercises that were going on. gimmicky ? i think not. i questioned him about android, wp7, and who made his phone. he didn't care, he just wanted "something that works very well, and doesn't require calling his nephew to fix."

that kind of attitude is what i'm seeing, here. people really don't -care- what the device is, what it runs, or who makes the software. all they want is a device that is mature, easily used, and easily maintained.

word-of-mouth is definitely in my neck o the woods(order of popularity/importance):

iphone

android (google phone more commonly known)

other

wp7 isn't on the radar. at all. it needs a ton of marketing, the current 'really' ads are funny, sharp, and true to life. what they -don't- do is show the phone. iphone ads on the other hand, show the phone (speeded up of course) doing what it does. android phones, show what they do. the wp7 commercials (which i love) point out the flaws of people, not the positives of the phone. we -all know- that people text and drive, are distracted everywhere in life by their phones. what we don't know is how the windows idea is going to solve this. SHOW IT !

hopefully this can be read, understood and not taken as fanboy bashing. it's very difficult for people to read a comment that isn't complete praise for a product and agree usually.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amb9800:
Interesting-- guess MS has done a much better job marketing WP7 in the UK than the US. The WP7 ads are on TV, but in NY I haven't come across anyone outside of techie circles who's aware of WP7 (awareness seems on par with Windows Mobile -- which is basically none -- whereas Android (which, as ohgood mentioned, is often known as "the Google phone") is almost approaching iPhone mindshare now). I'm the only WP7 owner I know of (and now the only WM owner as well-- everyone else switched to iPhones or Android handsets).

On the retail front, most WP7 displays I've seen at AT&T stores are hidden in the corner, and T-Mobile shops just have the HD7 on display along with the HD2 and a million Android phones, so it's pretty hidden (interestingly the HD7 is still in stock everywhere in retail, unlike even the HD2, which sold out almost immediately).
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brummiesteven:
There then seems to be a massive division between the US (and I assume) the Rest of the World (or at least the UK/Europe).

Over here hardly anybody knows what Android is. We have no little to no android advertisements.

The major problem with Google is they don't seem to want to advertise themselves, am I correct here? U.S. Advertisements are done by Verizon/Maunfacturers etc etc?

Manufacturers do advertise their phones over here but none of them mention that the phones have android. The samsung adverts have the android robot in them but they don't really explain them. HTC adverts don't mention android at all (they just have the "you" campain).

There are a few things. The CarphoneWarehouse (mobile phone store) has started advertising android instore but this doesn't extend to TV or billboards etc. The G1 had minor "With Google" stamps on it's adverts but most people I know assumed this just meant it came with Google Maps, Google Search etc and had nothing to do with the OS.

When Networks (Carriers) get android phones they may promote them instore but this will be for the phones themselves and nothing on them running Android.

Compare this to WP7:

- Adverts on TV All the time (They might not be the best, but they're there at least)

- Massive billboard adverts, showing the phones "This changes everything Gizmodo Quote".

- o2 promoting the HD7 specifically highlighting that it's a Windows Phone

- Orange doing the same with the Omnia and Mozart

- Product Placement (see http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...0089751101228_525696227_7296354_3969070_n.jpg)

Over here hardly anyone knows what Android is and it really used to piss me off how Google did no advertising whatsoever.

To the OP: Apologies that I took this post offtopic, I'm going to contact a Mod now and ask them if they will split the marketing discussion into a new topic.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] voodooutt:
Thumbs up here also. I've known about the differences between all the O/S and WP7, I actually came from 6.5. I brought one home, and the wife almost immediately said, go back and get me one too.

When I am using the phone in public places, sometimes I can feel people stretching to see what I am using. That usually generates a little conversation. About 70% say, "Oh, I've heard about those new Windows phones", or else they have seen the commercials and have not seen the phone. I tell them overall, this is a great system now, but not without its drawbacks (namely no custom ringtones.. and a few other things that will be addressed in the near future). Not the same old MS products. Go out and get one.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adesonic:
I am heartened to see so many positive comments, I may take up the earlier suggestion abou showing off some features of wp7 on YouTube
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LJKelley:
People in the US do know what Windows Phone 7 is. They may not recognize my phone, but when I say it is Windows Phone 7 they will immediately reference a commercial and know what I am talking about and think it is cool, not based on me showing them the phone too much but based on the fact the adverts are a success in the US.

So as far as groudwork, I think Microsoft is doing a good job. Much better than Palm ever did. But I also agree that people like us need to go out and show people our phones and that how true word of mouth together with the adverts will push people to adopt or recommend WP7 to other friends when considering a smartphone purchase.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roycio:
I was at the Magic-Heat game the other night and I was checking other NBA scores in the phone. A lot of people sitting around me in the arena asked me about the phone :), they made comments like "that's such a nice phone", etc. :D.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AceofSpades25:
These are all gimmicks. How about starting with a smartphone that can manage the basics first?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] littleasian:
got my chance to finally get a bit of hands-on time with wp7 at an att store yesterday. was surprised at how fast and fluid the UI is, i would definitely consider it if i was in the market for a new phone (unfortunately i just upgraded to iphone 4 a few months ago). i love the white letters on black background, it looks so sleek so its rather curious that the email application has it as black text on white. kind of jarring at first if you switch to it.

other than that, i think the only thing that i found troublesome was the hardware itself. i dont know why samsung didn't bring over the omnia 7 to the US, the focus itself is a nice phone but it feels so cheap and plastic-y. the samsung captivate, which is pretty much the same phone minus the flash felt much more "sturdy". samsung should've just used the body design for the captivate and put wp7 on it instead. the other wp7 phones for att didn't seem as high quality either.

looks like the US once again gets the short end of the stick when it comes to hardware.