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[G2 and Desire Z General] Sony Xperia X1:
Does the Desire Z work in the U.S. with T-Mobile?? >.<
[G2 and Desire Z General] brambizimski:
Search for the HTC G2 :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] SailingToMoon:
Hello, I'm actually new in this Android and HTC community :) I don't know what's overclocking or rooting? Like jailbreaking?
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Welcome :)

Rooting your phone is kind of like jailbreaking, because it gives you access to the administrator's account on the phone (the "root" user), so gives you the ability to do more things that you'd be otherwise locked out of.

Overclocking your phone is running the CPU at a higher speed than normal - so it makes it faster, quite simply.
[G2 and Desire Z General] DanWilson:
What is the difference between hboot S-OFF and radio S-OFF?

What phones have radio S-OFF?
[G2 and Desire Z General] SailingToMoon:
I again have a question which shows I am a beginner :) When I open wifi hotspot will i be charged in any way ? For example when I connect to internet with wifi ?

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z General] darthmelk:
[Q]

I have some folders on the desktop, in which I added some app shortcuts. The last added shortcut is last in the list, it's not even ordered alphabetically. I want to change the order of the shortcuts without deleting the folder, re-creating and adding all shortcuts again. Is it possible?

Using standard folders from Sense.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
That depends on your carrier. For example, with my carrier, Vodafone UK, any usage of the Internet (whether that's wi-fi from another computer connected via my phone, or direct from my phone) is going to count towards my monthly usage limit.
[G2 and Desire Z General] SailingToMoon:
So it is using mobile network?
[G2 and Desire Z General] DanWilson:
Yes.

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[G2 and Desire Z General] skulk3r:
I come from a Windows Mobile background, so other more experienced Android users can correct me if I'm wrong...but rooting is pretty similar to jailbreaking the iPhone - it opens up the device beyond the lockdown of the manufacturer and the carrier, letting you basically have total control over what happens in your phone (eg: Superuser control).

UNLIKE jailbreaking the iPhone however, you can 'flash' other ROMs onto your device. Don't like HTC Sense? Flash a stock Android ROM. Don't like the performance? Flash a Cyanogen Mod (CM) ROM onto your device. Want HTC Sense? Flash a custom Sense-enabled ROM. This is possible due to the massive dev group and also the flexibility of the Android platform - iOS is designed by Apple to be used on only Apple devices, and is also designed to be locked down. Android is designed to be tinkered and customized.

Getting 'root' on your device allows you also to 'overclock' your phone - for example, the HTC Desire Z/G-2/Vision comes with it's CPU clocked in at 800MHz (or there abouts), by overclocking your device, you can tweak the CPU to run at 1Ghz, 1.4GHz or even up to 1.9GHz! So you can effectively more than double your CPU speed! This means that you can play games more smoothly, boot up faster, run apps more quickly, etc.

Be WARNED however, that incorrectly rooting and/or overclocking your phone may result in a 'bricked' device - this means that your device no longer switches on or cannot load any software/OS, resulting in your phone transforming into a very expensive paperweight or brick. If you follow the instructions correctly though, then there is no worries and you will have gained access to a whole new world.

Good luck!

A question of my own now - is it possible to 'exchange' the HTC Pre-cached maps? Or even flash one onto the phone? I live in Australia, but bought a euro device, meaning that I have a bunch of precached maps for countries that I will not be able to visit (for now because I am a poor student =P). Is this part of the ROM? And if so, can I somehow get the maps from the Australian Desire HD ROM (no Australian Desire Z as far as I know)?
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
The maps are on the SD card, in .data/navigator/Data/Maps ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] synpax:
Been thinking about getting this device but I have a question about the availability of an app.

I come from a winmo background; specifically, I have an Xperia X1A that has been moded to run an NRG rom.

When the X1 first came out, it was said to be impossible to record calls effectively because of the circuitry. However, there has recently been developments that allow perfectly good call recording.

I want an app that will record and store all calls automatically with no alerts/noises and save them on the SD card, whether I am using the phone to speak by holding it to my ear, using a bluetooth headset, or using the (apparently weak) speaker phone.

Is this possible on the Desire Z and if so, with what app?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
http://www.appbrain.com/search?q=call+recording

Some of them do seem to be device specific, I have never needed to use such an app so I don't know for sure, but there is lots on that list.
[G2 and Desire Z General] brambizimski:
Ok so i got the phone, but now i got this little stupid thingie.

I added my facebook account which adds all the profiles to my phonebook.

But i just can't figure a way out to add numbers? It's like the fb data is read-only.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sean9180:
noob root s-off questions

Hi I'm new to android phones and have been reading the forums for about a week now and have not found a clear answer to my concerns so I hope someone can answer them for me.

first I would like to be able to return or exchange my phone if it breaks so I would like to undo everything back to bell stock phone.

I would like to run third downloaded apps on the phone, will I have to root and s-off the phone for this?

If so can I temp root and / or temp s-off to install the app then run the app without root and s-on?

If I root and s-off the phone can I back up my rom to reinstall later to return the phone bell stock condition so I could return the phone if it develops a problem?

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
That's no problem, it's possible to undo everything like root, S-OFF etc.

If you want to download and install apps from other than the Android market, then you can simply check a box under Menu/Settings/Applications to allow this. No root is needed except for apps that specifically need root (e.g. Titanium Backup, ROM Manager). Not sure if I understood your question correctly.

If an app needs root then you can always temp root to run it if you want. But you'll soon get fed up of the hassle, permanent root is very easy and can easily be undone if you need to return your phone.

Once you have rooted and S-OFF'd your phone then you can always just flash a stock RUU to put the phone back to how it was originally, if you want to return it. Or, if a stock RUU isn't available yet (e.g. Bell) then you can do a backup via ROM Manager (Nandroid backup) once you have rooted/S-OFF'd - and then once you've restored this you can undo the root/S-OFF stuff.
[G2 and Desire Z General] philippecr:
I hav a problem with my desire z.

It will random reboot! While surfing the internet on HSDPA... it's kinda annoying. Any others suffer tis?

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Just reboot by itself when I finish post the above..... is there any logs I can see wat is happening?
[G2 and Desire Z General] sherman616:
hi XDA boarders =)

desire z rocks bigtime!!!

thoug i got 2 issues that ae a real payne in the ass

1. when i press "home" to get back to my homescreen it happens sometimes that the whole launcher is kinda loading from scratch again ... like when i boot it ... it takes up to 30 sec until i can do something

2. Fastboot not working - i shutdown the the phone - and hen i turn it on again its not FAST-booting -- just the normal boring long boot :(

i searched the options to find a solution - but no luck

anyone got the same? =)

greetings sHerman
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
What ROM version are you running ? The option to turn on/off the fast booting (not really booting, it's a fast suspend/restart) is in Menu->Settings->Applications.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sherman616:
thx stevie, didnt know that this option is for fastboot ;)

i am using the stock rom, no custom rom or anything

so i still got that back to homescreen issue where the whole launcher is "restarted"

and realy dont know where to start to fix this :/
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Have you added anything like a non-stock launcher ? Or any other apps that might interfere ? If not, you might have to try a factory reset.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jubilleum:
I just got mine, and really miss the equalizer and the album art updater.

My old touch pro2 has these features, and think DHD has too...

Any idea how can i make awaible on my DZ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] jakemarston:
I followed these instructions to root my HTC Desire Z from Bell.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=857390

I am confused on where gfree stored my backup image. I have not flashed my phone or anything I have only followed the UBERROOT guide. I am just trying to figure out what I would have to do to return to stock (like when I got the phone).

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z General] gjc10212:
Hi,

Let me get this correct. When I connect my DZ to my home 'Virgin' wifi via the Wi-Fi option on my mobile that counts towards my 750mb data usage per month?

Also, what if I stream a video from my main PC?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Alluuu:
Hey,

I don't know if anyone else has this bug, since google claims to have fixed it on froyo, but my desire z autoconverts SMS to MMS after 335 characters has been written, which is slightly over 2 sms messages..

So first of all, where the hell does the number 335 come from,

and secondly since i have to pay 0.35€ for mms and 0€ for sms, is there a fix for this? Because I haven't been able to find any..

There is also a little pointless battery usage issue, when for instance you flip the phone over on some surface for it to go to speaker mode, then the screen stays on, even though it would make a lot more sence for it to go off and not use battery, like on a normal phone conversation when the proximity sensor turns the screen off..

Thanks for any help on the sms converting issue :) and if anyone knows how and where, they could also report the screen issue to HTC..
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
It will have stored it in /sdcard, i.e. the root directory of your SD card.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
I think I confused you with mentioning wi-fi. No, if you connect your phone to your home broadband wi-fi router then any Internet stuff over that won't go to your data usage for your phone.

My reference for wi-fi was if you turn your phone into a wi-fi hotspot and have a PC use your phone as a wi-fi router, then that would count, as it would if you used tethering to connect a PC to your phone to use the phone's Internet for the PC.

If you stream a video to the phone over your home wi-fi ? That won't count.

It's only data using the phone's own 2G/3G data connection that is going to be seen and measured by your carrier.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Mine doesn't do that. I think it's your carrier doing that, and specifically perhaps your phone's settings for your carrier.

I just tried that, I see what you mean. That doesn't seem right, as you say. Why don't you report it to HTC, either via the phone or their website ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] kwyj:
I've got a similar, but slightly worse problem. I bought a Bell Canada Desire Z (needed the 850MHz UMTS) and it's arrived with no Locations app at all.

If I go into Settings|Location there is an entry there to reinstall Locations, but pressing it just results in a message of "Unable to find an activity to handle this action"

Does anyone have any ideas how I might be able to get it onto the handset?
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
See the thread at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831059

The Bell ROM doesn't come with HTC Locations. A user in that thread said he got hold of it, though I'm not sure how. You could always flash a different ROM of course (but be careful to understand the implications, e.g. there doesn't seem to be an RUU available right now of the shipping Bell ROM if you want to go back to stock).
[G2 and Desire Z General] Alluuu:
But can anyone exlpain where and how can I report a bug straight from my phone? And am I the only one whose phone has 382228Kb of memory instead of 512 Mb that it should have :O ? Thanks for your help.. And is there anything I can do regarding the carriers settings, that mess with my sms limit? Because on my previous phones I've been able to send multiple sms-s as one sms.. Thanks again :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] jakemarston:
I don't see an *.img file only a *.bin. Is this what he is referring too?
[G2 and Desire Z General] gjc10212:
Great, thanks for clearing that up!
[G2 and Desire Z General] xZeDgEx:
No questions yet, picked up my Desire Z today. Just wanted to say what an joy this phone is so far. Coming from a ****ty experience with the Galaxy S (currently in for repair, second time) this thing feels like a quality handset. Holy **** Sense UI is just amazing too, touchwiz is complete and utter **** compared to this. The phone is smooth, fast, fun to use and the GPS works too. Woot! :eek:
[G2 and Desire Z General] xZeDgEx:
Ok, I have a question. Is there a way to take a screen shot?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Casey Rain:
Hey all,

I am thinking of buying a T-Mobile G2 imported from the US.

My question is - does the G2 have the same radio bands as the Desire Z? Meaning, if I have a G2 that's SIM unlocked, will I be able to use it on T-Mobile UK 3G, providing I enter the correct APN information?

Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z General] s74:
Unbranded = ?

Hi,

I just bought and received my Desire Z from ebay (for $560US excuse the shipping). It was listed as Unbranded & Unlocked which I took to mean didn't belong to any carrier (logos/apps/firmaware etc.). So now, I have a phone that has apps that are inherent to the Bell network AND no "Locations". I'm sure I'll discover more grievances with the phone not being fully unbranded.

So here's the thing: how can someone list the phone as being "unbranded" (of carrier logos etc.) when the DZ's don't have logos on them in the first place? Isn't that considered misleading? Am I wrong in thinking that unbranded means without attachment to carrier firmware/software etc.?

Also, is it worth it to get the Bell apps removed? I'm not really that adept with rooting. I'm trying to find a way to make the best out of a not-so-great situation. But I'm really put off that I paid as much money for something that isn't what I thought I was buying.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Casey Rain:
In case anyone else was wondering about this, I just sent an email to a friend who works at HTC asking him about this, and he confirmed that even though the radio bands differ slightly between the G2 and the Desire Z, an American SIM-unlocked G2 would indeed work on UK 3G networks with the right APN settings.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
That memory is normal. It's because the radio uses some of your RAM.

For the carrier's settings, I don't know, might be worth Googling specifically about your carrier and SMS/MMS ?

You can report a bug straight from your phone if you call up the Internet on it and go to HTC's website. You can either log a problem via email or by a phone call.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
It should be a .bin file. What is your .img file called ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Try the "Screenshot" or "ShootMe" apps from the Android Market.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Yes, even though it doesn't show it on HTC's own spec sheet on their website, the G2 supports Band I (2100) which is what the UK 3G networks use.

G2 has Band I (2100) and Band IV (1700).

DZ has Band I (2100) and Band VIII (900).

Be aware though that the G2 won't work on 3G in some areas of Europe that use Band VIII.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
I think what they're referring to is debranding the phone in terms of any software/firmware locks, e.g. you'll find a thread called "Debranding the Desire Z" in the dev forum which is probably exactly what has been done to your phone. I agree it's a somewhat ambiguous title though.

You should be able to flash a different ROM, e.g. the European ROM with the Locations app etc, if it's been properly debranded software/firmware-wise.
[G2 and Desire Z General] KDawg599:
I have been thinking about getting a Desire Z for some time now, I remember thinking when the Desire came out that if it had a physical keyboard it would be the ultimate phone for me. However now that I am actually getting close to buying one I am beginning to become a unsure :S

All the smartphones I have ever owned have had physical keyboards, HTC Tyttn, HTC Tyttn II, and HTC Touch Pro 2 (current phone), so I've gotten really used to the luxury of a keyboard. I've been wanting a Android phone for a while now and have really just been waiting for a good one with a keyboard. I have been reading tons of reviews and articles on all sorts of Android phones and I really like the Desire Z but I was disappointed that it wasnt as powerful as the Deisre HD. And I've also been thinking about the future of Android and new phones.

So basically I'm trying to decide between the Desire Z, Desire HD or possibly waiting until next year to see what comes out then.

For me it seems like should I get a phone thats a little worse but has a keyboard or a better phone without the keyboard. I have an Ipod Touch so I've used that on screen keyboard a bit and I can't say that I would like to type long sms, especially while walking or something like that. I know that the Desire HD has a bigger screen and probably better on screen keyboard but still, only touch screen scares me a bit :P

Then theres all the worrying about will it be able to upgrade to 3.0 or not since I would hate to buy a phone now and then when the hopefully awesome honeycomb comes out in a few months I cant even update to it. Then theres also 4G (which they are just starting with here in Sweden so there are no 4G phones yet) that should be coming to phones here soon. And CES is in 2 months and I bet they will be announcing a ton of sweet stuff.

Damn theres too many ifs and buts xP I know everyone is different and this might not help me at all but its worth a try ;)

So do you think I should buy a Desire HD, Desire Z or wait a little while and see what happens?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Alluuu:
Ok, first of all, if you're gonna start thinking what better might come out in a couple of months, then you'll never end up buying a phone, because theres always a possibility that something better comes along the second you buy your phone, and right now in my opinion DZ is the best android you can get..

DZ has a superb 2nd gen Snapdragon processor which will almost certainly handle 3.0 if not by HTC update then via a custom ROM and maybe a little overclocking. And on the subject of 4G it might take as long as another year, until we see 4G (LTE) in action and ready for commercial use..

On the subject of DHD, in my opinion 4" screen on a phone is too much and makes it uncomfortable to use..
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Sorry to be pedantic, but the initial LTE isn't 4G, it's still an enhanced 3G. True 4G is LTE Advanced.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Alluuu:
Yes, but obviously by 4G he meant the LTE being tested now.. :P
[G2 and Desire Z General] KDawg599:
Yea I know I've told ppl the same thing before :P But I was thinking since Honeycomb is probably being released in a few months that there are bound to be a great deal of new phones being released along with it and thats not too long of a wait (although i really dont wanna wait, i want a new phone now ;P). I just meant do you think it's worth waiting to see what happens then and then make a decision or should I just go for the Z or HD now? Although Im sure if I wait and then buy a phone a few months later there will be some new phone I want but maybe there wont be as much of a difference between those as there will be between the Z and wats released around the time of 3.0. So do you think there will be any insanely amazing new phones that will just blow everything else away during the first few months of 2011?

Ok well thats good to hear :)

Ok I dont know too much about the whole 4G thing so I wasnt really sure how far along the whole thing was, I had just heard a friend talk about waiting until the 4G phones came since he seemed to think it would be soon.

Hmm I've just held it briefly at a store but it didnt really seem to be too much in my opinion, although it wasn't actually a working model so I couldnt play around with it. Maybe I'll see if I can find a store that has one I can actually test and that might make it easier to see how the size works.

Thanks for all the help btw :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] adam18488:
hey guys...been reading in this forum for while now but would appreciate it if someone could clear a few things up for me...

if i buy a desire Z and then root it - i can jump over to the G2 forum and go crazy right? Are there any things i should be careful of? (i assume radio's etc?)

Also...are there any N1 users who jumped to the DZ/G2? Do u miss the N1...or is a hardware keyboard just too good

thanks!! :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] jakemarston:
part7backup-1291586113.bin
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Yeah, that's the one. Sorry, my previous reply to you didn't make a lot of sense lol.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jakemarston:
Ok last question just to clear things up.

I do the following and my phone will return till stock?
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
That will undo the changes made by the gfree script (e.g. S-OFF, SIM unlock), yes - though soon there is going to be a new utility to undo those changes, without requiring dd. But it won't undo anything else, e.g. root etc.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jakemarston:
Thanks Steviewevie appreciate it :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] gonzo99:
As someone who's moved from a TP2 to the Desire Z I can say that it's pretty much all been positive. (Not to mention getting it for free on upgrade on an 18 month contract)

Speedwise the phone seems much snappier than the TP2 (albeit with custom roms) and I've adapted to the Sense UI very quickly.

If I had to find a few things that I am missing, they would be:

1. I liked the extra row on the keyboard. The Z one is taking me longer to get used to. Having said that, I've found that I am often using the on screen one (experimenting with add on ones) and finding that plenty quick enough.

2. At the moment it seems that there is no simple two way call recording app like ACR - the ones on the market place rely on picking up the audio from the speaker so don't seem to work well with earpiece calls. However, with the speed of development of Android that may change in time.

3. The only app that I have found I've really missed has been Yomomedia - which is the best RSS reader I've ever used. Most of the alternatives (and there are plenty) are pretty mediocre by comparison. However, now that the official Google Reader has come out I've found that as a pretty good substitute.

On the plus side, there are so many more apps that I am finding useful, and the absolute killer app for me is Hullomail - visual voicemail in the UK that works perfectly. I really could not see myself going back to a phone without it now.

Finally, if you've tried any of the android ports on your TP2, I found that the experience on the Z was so much quicker and responsive that they were like chalk and cheese.

Hope that helps some

Gavin