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[G Tablet General] tenshino:
I am interested as well. Even with 100 bucks for a new screen, the G-Tablet's still half the price of an iPad with better software and processor :)

Don't know if I'd be able to do the investor route, but if you order screens definitely count me in for one.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
200 minimum is too much to attempt, imo. This is not a simple change to the device like a case. The user would have to take the entire device part, which most people might not be up do. Just trying to be realistic.

In my case, I would definitely be on board if $100 could get me a significantly better screen ie. an IPS screen.
[G Tablet General] vsc:
Needs to be an IPS display. Otherwise I don't see the improvement will be that dramatic.
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
IPS for approx 100, and I'm all in. ;) would really really like a matte look to the glass as well definitely would reduce the glare.
[G Tablet General] xelapr:
If it s a IPS screen I am also onboard would love to improve the display that's the only issue I have :D
[G Tablet General] sharpfork:
I'm interested in a screen as well.
[G Tablet General] goalweiser:
Did you ask the company how much it would cost just to make a test IPS screen? I would be happy to donate $10 towards the prototype. Yes I would also love to buy one for just $100 but this is a big gamble. Not sure you're going to find 200 people that will risk it.

Now 200 people donating $10 each for some test screens would be more feasible and way less risky. If they screw up the screens or they suck, we are not going to get our money back.
[G Tablet General] ncaggie1989:
This is the approach I would suggest also. I my world, this is how customers do this all the time, low cost or free samples, prototypes, etc, then place purchase orders for serveral million dollars for production once all of the bugs are worked out. I would gladly donate $10 or $20 to make sure we have the right "IPS" prototype screen for our device. A "C" note for something that may or may not even work??? :(
[G Tablet General] neonstorm:
+1

10chars?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Same - I'd donate if someone wants to purchase a sample. Worth a $10 risk for someone to test it.
[G Tablet General] floatpoo:
This is somewhat off topic, but has anyone ordered from nbkit.com before? I'm kind of peeved with them right now.

To make a long story short -- I ordered the LG LP101WH1-TLB1 panel from them on Dec 29th and paid a hefty premium for their fastest shipping method; which according to their FAQ page, takes 2-4 days from Asia to the US. However, its been 3 weeks now and the tracking number says the package is still in transit (left Singapore on Jan 9th).

So to those that ordered from nbkit before, I'm wondering if this is standard practice with these guys (i.e., using slow shipping even though you paid extra for fast shipping), or if I'm just a victim of uncontrollable circumstances beyond their control.

Note: I've emailed them about this issue, but my email gets bounced back because their email inbox is full :rolleyes:. And I've used their live chat support, but english didn't seem to be their strong suit, so I don't think they truly understood my issue.
[G Tablet General] spykat:
You said the money upfront, is this a chinese company or something else, because the money up front for 200 orders sounds like its so not legit, and forgive me for guestioning but are you willing to be responsible for 200 peoples money if they run with the cash, how well do you know them? Sorry for the bluntness but we dont have a clue who you would be dealing.
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
I ordered the identical panel and paid for faster shipping also Jan 3, still waiting. They ship dhl and they SUCK. Dhl claims my package was on hold because of a bad address. It's the same address format I use for ups and fed ex with no problem.

According to my tracking info they attempted to deliver my package yesterday but, "resident was not home. " ITS A BUSINESS ADDRESS!!

anyway to answer your question it took them about 2 weeks to ship my panel. Ill never use them again.

Now I did order another panel from a Canadian company (the direct GLOSSY replacement that you already tried) laptopscreens.com

MUCH BETTER pricing and much faster shipping
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
http://www.laptopscreen.com/English/screen-part-number/LP101WH1(TL)(B1)/
[G Tablet General] rcgabriel:
Awesome, let us know if you figure out a good way to get the TLB1 mounted and fitting into this case and deal with that extra millimeter and a half of thickness. :)
[G Tablet General] Ti6AlV4:
Well if you're dealing with a Chinese vendor that is willing to do only 200 units, there's bound to be some stipulations. Generally, I can't get a factory to look at anything under 1000 units. Why is he mentioning higher res when what everyone complains about is viewing angle?

Also, what service would you guys use here to pool the money together to make the order? The only one I know of is kickstarter.com

I don't like the fact that they take a percentage of the pool and was wondering if there are competing sites to kickstarter.
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
Well I'm considering visiting a plastics shop around me and see about a new back cover that's 1/16" deeper
[G Tablet General] TheTruth:
that is probably the best way to do it... thicker ips screen that we know to work well and prob costs a heck of a lot less to source new back covers...
[G Tablet General] floatpoo:
The reason why I went with nbkit was because they were the only company that would guarantee me a TLB1 panel (plus a left-to-right converter cable) and not some inferior compatible panel. I called/emailed just about every North American vendor I could find (incl. laptopscreens.com) and they were unsure about the actual panel I would get.

So for those thinking of ordering panels, be sure to read the fine print and make absolutely sure they won't send you some cheaper knockoff.
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
So am I going to need a left to right converter then ?
[G Tablet General] floatpoo:
Yup. With the TLB1 panel, the LVDS connector is on the left hand side. But the LVDS connector on the GTab system board is on the right side. The Gtab's LVDS cable isn't long enough, so you need the left-to-right converter.

If you do an ebay search for this panel, there's a seller that has pics that show what the panel + converter cable looks like.
[G Tablet General] rcgabriel:
Agreed. In general. Though not sure about costs for short-run molded parts exactly. But I do agree that a slightly thicker screen that we otherwise know will work is easier to hack around if the hacking just involves a single new part that we have to put a group buy in for.
[G Tablet General] The Old One:
My sister's hyper active 3 year old knocked my tablet off the desk so I need to replace the broken lcd anyway is there any consensus on the best replacement?
[G Tablet General] floatpoo:
When you say the LCD is broken, is it just the LCD panel, or is the outer screen (the part you touch) also broken/cracked? If the latter, you're going to need to replace the entire front plastic shell also -- and I'm not sure where to find that.

But if its just the LCD panel itself, the best drop-in replacement is to use the same exact model which is the AUO B101AW06 V1. The limiting factor with the GTab's screen is its thickness (3.6 mm). And of all the 3.6 mm thick panels out there that's known to us, the AW06 is the best its going to get.

Also, some advice when you start shopping for a replacement... Make sure the place you're ordering from will guarantee the specific panel you want. Most stores will send you a "compatible" panel that's often inferior to the actual one you want.
[G Tablet General] The Old One:
I'm calling the screen "broken" as the image is scrambled and the same thing happened to my sister's laptop ant I fixed it myself with a new panel. I did try to check the cables and reset connections first but only the new panel fixed it and the panel did not work when tried in another laptop.

If you can tell me a way to fix whatever went wrong I'd be very happy.
[G Tablet General] leo653:
Any luck with the plastics shop? or any other solution to the thickness issue?
[G Tablet General] dougmod:
what if they just made a 1/16 spacer that fits between the 2 parts of the case, then gave us longer screws. probably be a lot cheaper.
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
sadly trying to use a thicker screen is a lost cause. There is no practical way I can see to do this. I just tried installing my LG screen TL B1 and there are several problems. The outer dimensions are a tab larger than stock. So the tray that holds the mobo and the battery and sits on top of the screen will not sit comfortably without grinding down the recessed area the backside of the screen fits into.

So my resourceful self did this...modified the tray and it sat right on top of the screen. The problem now becomes the ports and buttons on the side of the mobo no longer reach front recessed areas on the side of the case. Basically the problem is not just a gap between the front and back covers but the ports themselves do not seat like they should. So an entire custom case is necessary.

So from my experience there simply is no practical way to install a thicker screen. I think we need to wait until AUO releases a better screen with the same dimensions :mad:

Man if it wasnt for all this awesome developement going on I would return this thing in a heartbeat. Why cant we just have it all?

PS I know it has been said all along this is a lost cause but I absolutely needed to try it for myself. I need to learn to trust the other members of this site more often lol
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
One more thing...the AUO screen we are all holding our breath for wont work either. Here are the specs and dimensions

http://www.auo.com/?sn=149&lang=en-US&c=34&n=146
[G Tablet General] floatpoo:
Arrrggg, you ordered from nbkit later than I did, but received the panel earlier (I still haven't received mine yet). Man, nbkit is a joke.

Anyways, thanks for giving us a detailed account on your installation attempt. I guess the search continues.
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
Man DHL is an even bigger joke. I would have had this 11 days earlier if it wasn't for them sucking so bad. At least you know you don't have to waste your time, but I'm sure you will anyway :)
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
After re reading this post, this is the ONLY way to use a thicker screen. But it would probably be very expensive as it would have to be a petty elaborate mold to make a spacer that accommodates the ports
[G Tablet General] tenshino:
OK, guys. Now that the Notion Ink Adam tablet is officially shipping I'm curious about something:

They offer a model with a PixelQi screen. The tablet is 10.1" with a resolution of 1024x600. Sound familiar? :)

Anybody know how we would go about finding where they're buying their screens, since I seriously doubt that they manufacture their own, being that they are a fairly small company.

How hard would it be to find out the exact dimensions of their screens and where they are acquiring them from?
[G Tablet General] Prof-KOS:
it may be a good fit dimension-wise, since it's highly possible that the LCD screen they use in the other model is the same as ours. It is an AUO screen. We'll have to wait for a proper teardown to find out exactly.
[G Tablet General] The Old One:
anyone know where in the US I could actually get a replacement AUO B101AW06 V1?

I've found a few places I could order it internationally but most of them could not even tell me it would be the AUO B101AW06 V1.
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
Is this the stock replacement screen? I'm having LCD screen nightmares and I don't remember. If so I have one that I purchased thinking our screens were matte finish. It turns out our screens are glossy just like the panel I bought to replace it with.

Long story short, I bought a panel thinking it was an upgrade and indeed it wasn't just a direct replacement, I'll sell it to you for $60 SHIPPED. Never installed BRAND NEW
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
If you're interested email me kpowr82@gmail.com
[G Tablet General] skribbs:
You guys have probably seen this already;

http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MKPQ01
[G Tablet General] GeeVee628:
xda and people here are awesome! plz keep us posted.:cool:
[G Tablet General] The Old One:
I got a call from my grandfather (who got me the gTab for Christmas) today and he said he’d try to get it fixed for me. I don’t expect him to be able to but if he can get sears to fix/replace it that would be better.

The Pixel Qi display doesn't fit, is a low color display and has even worse viewing angles.
[G Tablet General] HorsexD:
Yeah PixelQi Looks like it Sucks Ars. Good for out door viewing and thats it. We need better viewing angles not worse. >,<

Oh and Saves power too But These tabs Already have a good life Span.
[G Tablet General] kpowr82:
Too thick
[G Tablet General] mikeyaomikeyao:
There is a lot of tablets with 1280*800IPS screen on CES that should be ideal for us if any has the same connector, There is rumor in a Chinese forum that the original manufacturer of ZPAD called wanlida may put out a version with IPS screen.That will make the change of screen much easier since they will provide a driver for the new screen,but it is not yet confirmed. There is another way too, I think we can use the HDMI output signal to drive the new screen and that will need a decoder which we may find in deserted desktop LCD screen or TV and that will enable us to use a wide range of screens with different resolutions and connectors(as long as it can connect to the decoder) however the biggest obstacle keep us from doing so is the volume of the machine and the life of battery.
[G Tablet General] The Old One:
We need a 16:9 1280x720 panel not a 16x10 1280*800. We can only hope that a 10" 16:9 IPS comes out with all the new tablets
[G Tablet General] Prof-KOS:
According to the FCC teardown of the NI Adam, the LCD model's screen is A101SW01. The PixelQi model is PQ 3Qi-01.

Notion Ink Adam hits the FCC torn apart in haste
[G Tablet General] stanglx:
In otherwords the LCD is no better than ours?
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
Slightly better viewing angle than ours on the A101, Digital Picture frame, however different interface. :o
[G Tablet General] HorsexD:
What About the Toshiba As100/Foolio. Resolution 1026x600 Wide Screen Lcd. Think it Would fit in our G tabs and Will the Viewing angles be better? I didnt look into what screen it had but it looked good on video but It didnt focus much on Angles. This is Also a 10'' Tegra2 Android Tab btw

EDIT: After Looking at more vids the Viewing angles look like they have similar problems to ours. in landscape left to right are good but up and down get darker/lighter
[G Tablet General] tyy10002:
I understand that gtab screen is 16:9 and why can't we use a 16:10 screen because of the physical size of the screen or the kernel code or the top glass of the screen (the black border issue).

Thanks in advance.
[G Tablet General] dougmod:
Has anyone confirmed that the Viewsonic 10 has a bad screen? I remember we talked about the screen, but never ggot the final answer.
[G Tablet General] DJTJ:
What about this one? LTM10C210-V10

What about this one?, It is said to be a IPS too

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/325244133/LTM10C210_V10_LCD_PANEL.html
[G Tablet General] mkuzminov:
it is very cheap and probably not true

Here is her description http://propellertoys.googlecode.com/files/LTM10C210.pdf

PS "Supply Ability:	300 Kilogram/Kilograms per Day week" long laugh :)
[G Tablet General] The Old One:
They're not going to fix it so I need a new panel and still can't find a good place to get one.

Best place I've found so far charges $110 and won't get back to my emails asking if it is really a AUO B101AW06 V1 panel or a similar knockoff.
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
The new samsung is also 10.1 1280X800, Tegra 2 , Only supposedly TFT, any ideas on the the screen? I am sure some of these new 10.1" screens will fit on our beloved gTAB. :)

The elocity is 1280 10.1 IPS

Xoom 1280 10.1 IPS?

Samsung tab2 1280 TFT?

now we just need a FCC teardown to get the real specs. ;)
[G Tablet General] grinch247:
subscribed :)
[G Tablet General] Ricey:
The elocity A10 is 1366x768.
[G Tablet General] philipwest:
screens

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_tablet_PCs
[G Tablet General] WantADroid:
Malata Screen

The new Malata may have a screen we could use on or Gtablets! Looks pretty good as far as viewing angles..

http://liliputing.com/2011/02/malata-introduces-new-dual-core-android-tablets-with-hd-displays.html
[G Tablet General] philipwest:
Maybe

Need an IPS display. Nothing else seems to be much of an improvement over original lcd. I'm trying to search for an IPS, maybe from a unrealesed tablet.

10.1" 1024x600

16:9 ratio

Is there any other dimensions I need? Thickness maybe, conector perhaps? Will Ips require specific drivers? Would a slate laptop have better viewing angles than a laptop screen?
[G Tablet General] philipwest:
Glossy option

I might get a glossy lcd and aply a matte screen protector if the glare is bad. There was a post a while back about swapping in a glossy lcd. Did anyone try that yet?
[G Tablet General] samepic:
Malata Zpad T2 Has an IPS 1366x768 Display Swap

Just read this from androidtablets.net. Someone did an IPS display swap on the ZPAD T2 with a 1366x768 IPS screen. However, no pics :-(

http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...ta-zpad-t2-has-ips-1366x768-display-swap.html

In addition, BigIdeas has been working on a kernel update that would support this new IPS 1366x768 display. Link is in Chinese, but at least it's giving some hope here. BigIdeas indicated that the development of this new update would be done in the next day so we might see something fairly soon.

http://www.ez-pad.net/android-3115-1-1.html
[G Tablet General] philipwest:
IPS 1366 x 768 10.1"

http://newnotebookinfo.com/elocity-a10-tablet-review-specs-price-and-release-date

This may be the one we are looking for. Might have to wait a little while. I can't find any screens for sale yet.
[G Tablet General] datas0ft:
Seems tomorrow i get my new Viewsonic Viewpad 10s (not viewpad 10). I'm not very familiar with hardware side, but if you guys interested i can give all information what needed about 10s lcd. I go apart it.
[G Tablet General] jasco13:
I think the 10s has the same screen as the g tab. I think our ultimate goal is to find a higher res ips screen that will fit.
[G Tablet General] lalomean2:
So how hard would it be to change the screen of the GTab? Would it be a simple plug in and reboot?
[G Tablet General] Roxxas049:
Well according to ajkid93 in the Viewsonic G vs. Enspert Identity pad thread, he was able to replace his screen with the LG LP101WH1-TLB1 by only lengthening the screw holes.

He mentioned nothing about the fact that the LG screen is bigger than the g pads frame by a large margin.
[G Tablet General] philipwest:
A10 IPS screen

Does anyone have any specs on the velocity A10 screen? Width, length and connector.

This one seems to be the most promising for an upgrade. So far these are the specs I know

IPS, 10.1", 16:9 apsect ratio and 1366 x 768 resolution. If this one fits it would be the most beneficial, way better viewing angle and better resolution. I got my fingers crossed.
[G Tablet General] philipwest:
Did he take any pics? Is that an IPS?
[G Tablet General] Kayak83:
Where were you able to pick one up?
[G Tablet General] lifeisfun:
Someone is selling 2 LCD screens for NI Adam

http://cgi.ebay.com/orignal-Notion-...390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f079d2f2e
[G Tablet General] philipwest:
viewing angles

Unfortunately the viewing angles are not much better. We really need an IPS screen. The elocity a10 may be the one to deliver the goods. It has an IPS with better resolution.
[G Tablet General] grinch247:
I love my gtablet...however I did pre-order the eLocity A10 from jr.com....dont know when I will get it though :(
[G Tablet General] philipwest:
nice

Gorilla glass and aluminium, IPS screen good stuff. Let us know if the screen is the same size as the g tablet. I wish the elocity had more ram though.
[G Tablet General] evilPERSOn2009:
is the scrren really that bad
[G Tablet General] Tester30:
I use my tab since November. Cannot complain. It's not as bad as some peeps describe. Playing games, using Dolphin HD, email. Don't see a big problem. Unless some folks absolutely have to use it at extreme angles......

Of course, if there gonna be a screen that gives huge improvement, I will consider to change it.

JMO.
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
Viewed directly it is not bad, however in portrait mode, and if you have more than 1 person looking at the screen the viewing angle makes it impossible to be useful.
[G Tablet General] ryanmc2033:
Check out this review http://www.justechn.com/2011/02/21/review-viewsonic-g-tablet they have an image of the G Tablet at different angles.
[G Tablet General] P00r:
The problem is not the lcd but what is in front of it, the screen cover is some kind of plastic that react to the polarizer below, agree it's not the best but it is usable for me.

On the other hand the screen is quite robust, for the price I am happy, just factor the fact that it's not an OLED display when you decide what to buy, better display = more expensive and often more fragile!
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
I totally agree with the fact that the screen is passable for personal usage, and considering the cost of its ilk ie Xoom, and other 10.1 tegra2's upcoming, probably unbeatable in value for $$, but it would be awesome with an IPS screen, even if it sacrifices some of its pretty awesome battery life to drive the display.
[G Tablet General] JoeMofknDot:
ok so i cracked my screen and viewsonic wont fix it even if i pay for it so i need a stock screen does anyone know where to get 1
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
Please search the forum I remember seeing a thread covering that exact subject.
[G Tablet General] qlx008:
See your messages. These problems that should be the logistics but aren't the proble

See your messages. These problems that should be the logistics but aren't the problems that the other people serve.
[G Tablet General] qlx008:
New screen of cheapness

My SAMSUNG notebook screen is carelessly ground, sought and don't find out a suitable model number for a long time online. Is end at according to here of the senior member provide of Web address, interview nbkit.com at in finally find out ....

(This is the comprehensive sex laptop battery, screen accessories that is an after Mcafee attestation, wholesale to retail a website, provide utility price. If you need, can see.

Thank senior member
[G Tablet General] lostpilot28:
Wow. Say what? No speaky english, I take it? :D I cannot figure out what you're trying to say. But, if the "New Screen of Cheapness" means that you found a suitable replacement IPS screen, then I'm interested.
[G Tablet General] xdanb:
Would the ipad display work?

Would the ipad display work? They're cheap, readily available, smaller than the Gtab display, and look great.
[G Tablet General] h3llphyre:
No, it will not work
[G Tablet General] MuddyBayou:
Any news on a replacement screen that might work on this thing? I love the tablet format but this screen really is the pits. I was hoping it might not be as bad as everyone said, but I was proven wrong. :(
[G Tablet General] MuddyBayou:
Wow, I was one hell of a Lurker back when I had my winmo phone :)
[G Tablet General] Riccarr:
I know I'm late to this party and most of you have all gone home; but I spent a few hours now reading thought the near 300 posts.

So maybe I overlooked it, but I saw few posts about a potential screen but it was too thick and it meant customizing the plastic housing. My question about that screen though, even though it didn't fit the housing, did anyone actually power it up while it was wired into the gtab and verify it's quality/viewing angles and how well it looked, or not?
[G Tablet General] melax:
Is there any chance of replacing the external Glass? Mine cracked a bit. Everything is working fine though. I assume there is the internal screen and also the external glass? Thanks