yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
ok, thanks, so you're assuring me this will work if I use the Gold card method, even though I'm current s-off ?

Can you help me out with what I will need to do backup-wise please ? I have Titanium Backup installed and Clockwork recovery. On my old WinMo phone I could have done this blindfolded, I flashed dozens and dozens of ROMs and was well used to restoring data etc each time.

I presume I need to do a Nandroid backup. When I want to go back to my current ROM (whose RUU I have already downloaded), do I need to run that RUU to flash the whole thing ? Then do I need to root/s-off so I can get Clockwork back ? Then restore the Nandroid backup ? And that will have all my stuff in it (messages, settings etc), so I'll be back to where I was before ? I've probably missed something though. I'm just not sure of the whole restoring process.

I've done a backup of all new apps and all system apps in Titanium Backup, so I presume that's my fallback option to get everything back ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Another thought - will it speed things up for me if (both times, perhaps ?) I change the hboot in the rom.zip file to the eng hboot that I currently have installed on my phone ? Or just remove hboot from that zip completely ? So that it will leave me at S-OFF throughout ?

If so, then I could take out recovery and radio from the older zip I'm flashing too, would that still replace enough for the info you need ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
Here's stock hboot_7230_0.85.0002_100917.nb0 from 1.22.405.1

(the RUU posted @ post 2)

Note:

I renamed it from *.nb0 to *.zip to attach it to the post footer

MD5 checksum after renaming to zip is 1834dfea5535adc6a1b04c4ec7d9d9ce

So, download, check MD5, and rename to nb0
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] skitzophrenick:
Should work fine yes

Nandroid backup and if youve used TitaniumBackup before I would err on the side of caution and force a full redo of all installed apps + data, including system apps. If the RUU youve got for your current setup is suitably similar you should be able to restore the system apps (if nandroid doesnt work out) which will restore call logs and messages, if the RUU is different there may be difficulties with the system apps, but as these are all Android 2.2 anyway were probably in the clear.

When you go back you will use the same method used to downgrade, except as the current version number IS older you dont need to edit the misc partition this time. Then re-root, S-OFF, install clockwork, restore nandroid as you said.

Yep thats the idea. Restoring user apps is always easy, youve got the RUU for your current setup so the system apps restore nicely aswell.

Since we dont know where the problem lies it would be better if you could flash the whole lot, at which point our devices should be identical in terms of the basic OS. Ofcourse if you are uncomfortable with this then so be it, but a full flash would be more useful. Changing more variables makes it harder to isolate the problem.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
ok, thanks. I will start tonight on it but I have some other things to do too, so might take till tomorrow morning (UK time) to finish.

You just want partitions 3 and 5, right ? So once I've got those safely saved off, I can flash straight back to my current stuff ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] skitzophrenick:
Awesome, thank you so much. Im also based in the UK btw so if you want any help I will be up until ~4am, ill pm you my contact details. Just going to see if scotty2 is online so I can check if we should dump any other partitions pre-emptively.

edit: scotty2 doesnt seem to be online right now, but if you could drop into #G2ROOT on freenode when your working on it we will be logged in & hopefully Hymie or someone will be able to identify anything else we could use
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Lol, hope I don't need emergency help.

Just made the gold card, changed my misc.img to the old version number so it will (hopefully !) let me flash that ok without problems. About to flash it. Though I have something else to do between 9pm and 10pm UK time.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
Everything should go OK, but PM me if you get in any trouble
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
How should I be trying to flash this old ROM, based on the fact I have Clockwork recovery (the guide on debranding assumes you are stock).

When I reboot into recovery it comes up with the CM options. Do I pick the option that lets me pick a zip file from the SD card ? Because if I do that, and then select the PC10IMG.zip I put on there (the old ROM extracted from the RUU), it comes up with an error and won't flash it.

Edit - forget that, I don't know what I did wrong, but I've got it to flash automatically now.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] skitzophrenick:
Yer it has to be done via HBOOT. Ive talked to scotty2 now and partitions 3 & 5 are all we need, thanks :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Don't know how I got myself into CM, but it worked fine from HBOOT. Up and running on the old ROM now, will dump parts 3 & 5 a little later :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Partitions 3 and 5 uploaded to RyanMcG's server. I still have the old ROM on (1.22.405.1), but I will flash the original (newer) ROM back in the morning, unless you let me know there's anything else you want off it.

At the time of these dumps, the phone was back to S-ON, but I had of course temp rooted it to access the partitions.

Edit - software info from my phone :

Kernel 2.6.32.21-gfbe0094 htc-kernel@and18-2 #1 Sat Sep 25 02:34:14 CST 2010

1.22.405.1 CL261471
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] skitzophrenick:
Thanks steviewevie, pitty I missed you on IRC. Unfortunately I need some clarification now:

RyanMacG, I saw the mmcblk_xda.zip on the server yesterday and it has a timestamp before my own personal dumps, can you confirm whether they are the stock partitions from your vodafone rom?

Steviewevie, Im not aware of anonymous write access on RyanMacGs server, could you upload these files somewere else (dropbox, megaupload, etc) so I can confirm I have your files also. I was anticipating a 2010-11-26 timestamp but dont see any files that match

Once I know im working with the right data ill have a quick glance at the MD5 checksums myself and give scotty2 a heads up so he can look into it at depth. See you guys tomorrow
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] PedeDK:
Just got my desire z, and would love to help - unfortunately neither Visionary nor the manual permaroot method works for me..

This is my device information

HTC Desire Z (no brand - danish)

---------------------------------------

VISION PVT SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.85.0005

MICROP-0425

RADIO-26.03.02.26_M

eMMC-boot

Oct 11 2010,20:10:38

---------------------------------------

Android Version 2.2

Baseband version 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M

Kernel version 2.6.32.21-gd2764ed, htc-kernel@and18-2 #1, Tue Oct 26 16:04:03 CST 2010

Build number 1.34.405.5 CL273326 release-keys

Software number 1.34.405.5

Browser version WebKit 3.1

---------------------------------------
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RyanMacG:
I PMd him an ftp only account to my server the zip file from yesterday is the one that we were provided earlier in the thread, the .5 partitions
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Sorry I missed you guys. Ryan, I'm not sure what happened there, but I've uploaded them also to my dropbox as per below :

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9728800/mmcblk0p3_xda.dd

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9728800/mmcblk0p5_xda.dd
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Just for info, I've successfully gone back to my original shipped ROM. I can't believe how easy that was ! :D

Flashed the ROM from SD via HBOOT, did root, S-OFF, installed ROM Manager then Clockwork, restored Nandroid backup.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RyanMacG:
Cool, glad you didn't have any problems getting back :)

I popped those files up on the server so thanks for all your help hopefully we can get something from this.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] skitzophrenick:
partitions 3 and 5 are downgrading correctly

The MD5 hashes are identical, so these partitions are being correctly downgraded on the problematic Desire Zs and arent the problem. steviewevie could you identify which RUU you restored back to before re-rooting? I would like to give it a quick try myself.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
The RUU that I used to extract the ROM for me to go back to (I flashed via HBOOT, I didn't use the RUU itself) is at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=822908 . So this put me back to exactly the same version as was shipped with my phone (SIM-unlocked UK version from Amazon.co.uk).

I hope Scotty can manage to solve this puzzle soon for you guys.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OKK77:
At least one Desire Z in Singapore is having the problem as well. :D

HTC Desire Z, Generic, Singapore

VISION PVT SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.85.0005

MICROP-0425

RADIO-26.03.02.26_M

eMMC-boot

Oct 11 2010, 20:10:38

Android version: 2.2

Baseband version: 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M

Kernel version: 2.6.32.21-gd2764ed, htc-kernel@and18-2 #1, Tue Oct 26 16:04:03 CST 2010

Build number: 1.34.707.5 CL273326 release-keys

Software number: 1.34.707.5

Browser version: WebKit 3.1

Model number: HTC Desire Z A7272

S/N: SH0BDRT*****

P/N: 99HLW028-00
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crowstar:
the old desire has this issue, a new one has appeared and perm-root won't work.

Sounds similar to me, they think it is a NAND issue. That htc has changed nand in some way

Here Is the Thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=853583
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] skitzophrenick:
Interesting find. The thread seems to point towards an overhaul of the partitioning causing problems so im not sure whether it is the same issue. Its worth us keeping an eye on though so I will add it to the main post.

Thanks for the input
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Did you try going to 1.34.405.5 ? I presume that didn't help ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RyanMacG:
The recurring theme seems to be this new serial number...hopefully I can dig something up today about the issue.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Rubas:
Same problem with this device:

HTC Desire Z, Generic, Switzerland

Android version: 2.2

Baseband version: 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M

Kernel version: 2.6.32.21-gd2764ed, htc-kernel@and18-2 #1,

Build number: 1.34.405.5 CL273326 release-keys

Software number: 1.34.405.5

Model number: HTC Desire Z A7272

S/N: SH0BCRT*****
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lennyuk:
can you not goldcard and flash a generic ruu? then root from there?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
I wonder if the part/product number is likely to be more significant in this case, especially if something important has changed (whether coincidentally or deliberately). For example, mine (successfully perma-rooted and S-OFF'd) is :
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RyanMacG:
Scotty2 said that the S/N indicated a hardware revision. The guys are trying to cook up a new wpthis for us.

We'll keep you guys informed.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
ok, interesting, thanks. Will be keenly following this to see what the change is, good luck !
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] PedeDK:
sounds good.. :-D best of luck cooking..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] alpinux:
I'm currently awaiting my Desire Z vodafone germany branded. I'm quite curious if I'll have the same issues rooting it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] click2me:
i have issue in rooting too..i tried several times using the visionary tool, cant work..mine is asia model..hope anyone can find a solution on this..thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Elegy:
VISION PVT SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.85.0005

MICROP-0425

RADIO-26.03.02.26_M

eMMC-boot

Oct 11 2010,20:10:38

_________________________

Android Version 2.2

Baseband version 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M

Kernel version 2.6.32.21-gd2764ed, htc-kernel@and18-2 #1, Tue Oct 26 16:04:03 CST 2010

Build number 1.34.405.5 CL273326 release-keys

Software number 1.34.405.5

Browser version WebKit 3.1

---------------------------------------

Device serial number: SH0B1RT#####

Product number: 99HLW010-00 B (under battery)

I too have trouble getting permanent root on this device. I have tried the rage version only but after rebooting i lose my root.

**just tried Visionairy,, doesnt work either
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] qpop:
I'll add my name to the list of people with so far un-permarootable desire Z

I can temp root using Rage and a hexedited .ko file and that's it.

Really looking forward to it getting rooted and will donate £10 to whoever solves first.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shorty2k5:
dito, give credit where credit is due :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] qpop:
OMG This has already been SOLVED now by scotty2 on #g2root

Full solution to follow in its own thread...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] qpop:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9522997#post9522997

This is the solution

Cheers
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] skitzophrenick:
absolutely amazing! worked a treat! will update main thread
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
So what was the technical reason behind why these later phones wouldn't root ? Is it some sort of hardware change ?

Edit - I'm guessing something in the radio was changed to "break" the old method ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Elegy:
it worked! thanks so much!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
I was just going through the IRC logs. Looks like a new "wpthis" module was needed. If I'm understanding correctly (please, someone who knows more, feel free to correct and add info !) then the original "wpthis" (to power off and on the eMMC so as to turn off write protection) actually shouldn't really have worked, but we got lucky and it did on the G2 and early DZ's. Looks like the Vodafone DZ's exposed the problem though, but once scotty sorted a new wpthis then that was cracked too !

That's my impression from a look through the logs, but I might have got that all wrong !
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] qpop:
something like that.

But wpthis is built into gfree so no need to do anything but my guide
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Scotty2 is an absolute genius :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
I am amazed by how fast this shizz has developed. I feel 10 feet tall :)

scotty2 is a genius, qpop has made a great guide, and the easy tutorial has now been re-adequated as a flashing/rooting FAQ-learning/resources centre

Thanks FSM no newbie will screw his phone again :D

Ma'am could you please un-stick this thread with your almighty whip ??

We've had a revolution down here :p
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Untouchab1e:
Just followed the guide on my Nordic Desire Z. I got the xbin error but it worked jsut fine and I now have root on my device.

Thanks a lot for this guide. I appreciate the clean-ness compared to the Visionary way.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] iamthechickengod:
I tried following the documentation but have failed at some point. I'd like to try again but does this guide work on this version?

The only difference is my S/N: SHB0B6RT***** as opposed to the one above.

Btw, I rebooted the phone and went to this and have S-OFF (probably from my previous attempt)

VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF

HBOOT-0.85.0005

MICROP-0425

RADIO-26.03.02.26_M

eMMC-boot

Oct 11 2010, 20:10:38

Does this mean I am already rooted? I cannot seem to get SU to show the # prompt.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crowstar:
Yes you are, but you need a rom that has the SU binary in order to get the #
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] iamthechickengod:
Oh cool! :)

Is there a menu of cooked ROMs I can check that works with the HTC Desire Z?

Any recommendations? :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crowstar:
In future try to keep this in general but it is your choice; I like CM so for me the new nightlies :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
No, you are not rooted yet. But because you have S-OFF you can flash a pre-rooted custom ROM if you like. Or you need to go back through the rooting procedure on your current ROM, to see what went wrong.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] iamthechickengod:
Oh. I guess my work was just half-done. I think I'll follow the unroot procedure first from the wiki and try again. A bit off topic, if I reset back to factory default is there a way to back it up so that I can just re-apply it for warranty or what not?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] iamthechickengod:
Following the Turning S-On procedure I found out that I have a part7****.bin file. Is this the backed up ROM? If not, can I just do a factory reset from the Recovery screen when using Power on + Volume Down and get the system back to S-ON?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
No, that's a backup of your radio config partition, it's the contents of the partition from before you ran gfree.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
To do a backup of your ROM you really need ROM Manager and Clockwork installed, which needs root (only temp) and S-OFF.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] iamthechickengod:
Gotcha. Here's what I did. I reset my phone to factory default. I did a battery pull and got to the screen where it still shows S-Off.

I was hoping I could get it back to S-On but apparently that's not the case.

Is there an RUU for this?

Android version 2.2

Baseband version 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M

Kernel version 2.6.32.21-gd2764ed htc-kernel@and18-2 #1 Tue Oct 26 16:04:03 CST 2010

Build number 1.34.707.5 CL273326 release-keys

Software Number 1.34.707.5

Browser version

Webkit 3.1

I cannot seem to find it. What I usually find has a different baseband version (specifically M<insert number>)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] eFFeRaTuM:
hi guys!

i have a dz uk 1.72 stock (no ota updates).

can i follow uberroot guide to get root and s-off? is gfree compatible with this rom?

in the wiki i've read that i need to downgrade to 1.34 in order to use gfree, but my phone was released already with 1.72 (build date 17 nov 2010).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
This is a pretty old thread. No, you can't use the uberroot guide. Gfree won't work at 1.72 so you need to downgrade to 1.34 to get radio S-OFF, then you can go back to 1.72 and use psneuter to root it.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheRealOne:
Android 2.2.1

Build-Number : 1.72.405.2

Software-Number : 1.72.405.2

Serialnumber : SH0BSRT*****

it is not possible to temproot the phone via Visionary+ r14

the link to "solved issue" is not available anymore...

can someone help me to permroot my HTC Desire Z ?

it's also not possible to see the boot-load with power-on and vol-down method...wth is going on?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] vsinha71:
same here. been trying to root but none of the solutions work. pls help.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chiraag:
From wat i understand .. have to first down grade to 1.34 only then u can root and s off .. and then flash new roms.. an i correct?? I have not doe any updates but my phone came with 1.7xxx.. and the downgrade procedure did not work for me...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] EclipseX:
link is broken :S
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sevensaints:
link is definitely Broken...
[Bravo General] dapengy:
Okay, part of this is based on running Linux for the last 7 years. Part is assumption and part is what I have gathered from Motorola 3rd Level Techs/Devs and ATT. We all know the phone is just released. I think it is a totally nice phone. Initially, I had problems with one major thing -- being able to use wifi. I think I found an app called Android Status which basically can show you a view of netstat -lnt. EVERY socket is running on tcp6. Now this is a world/quad band phone so it needs IPV4/6. I was connected to my router and could see a udp connection pinging really fast from the phone to router and disappearing. The wierd thing is the tcp6 sockets are looking like IPV4 addresses. I am assuming a tunnel of some sort.

When I called ATT their line was, "I'm sorry we don't support home wifi's." So I went to one of their wifi HotSpots and I can join but get kicked off for supposed none eligibility for access. ATT swears I am all set. But I loved telling them that I'm sorry I don't support ATT HotSpot technical difficulities. I "fixed" my issue by adding my own DNS servers and making a static IP on my wifi network. I don't have or want to use the time to "fix" ATT. I just want it to work. This issue with wifi is seeming to be occuring on the IPhone4 and Windows Phones being released. I'm betting it's the same problem.

Linux by default comes with IPV6 on in the kernel. So if it is to be a world phone they have to have support. Another option for techies is to blacklist IPV6. "If" you've rooted your phone. OR wait for Motorola/ATT to put out a patch/toggle switch like is done with wifi, GPS, BT and the like so a user can toggle wifi support based on where they are travelling or living in the world. This last to me seems to be the best idea.

Now for the techie in me I don't travel overseas or in a native IPV6 country at all. So I would rather just blacklist the file. Wifi right now is running about as fast as a squashed snail on a hot day because it is looking for both sets of addresses. My kernel is old 2.6.29, and it has Android 2.1.1 but I would like to go to the most current Froyo. Looking in this section of the forum seems to have Debian directions: I run ArchLinux. Though using Astro FM there is dpkg stuff inside the FS of the phone. Or the instructions are for Windows, which don't help me at all either. Plus I want to get rid of some of this garbageware ATT has put on the phone itself.

So in closing I would like Froyo if in my best interests, and that it changes the kernel. But I have to shut off IPV6 at config/module level, and not at kernel level.

dap

This phone DOES ROOT with Z4root app with no issues I can detect. Loading a new busybox also doesn't seem to cause any issues.
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