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[Epic 4G General] revjtanton:
So I flashed to a froyo ROM over the weekend and have found someone posted a fix for the gps issues, but I'm having BT issues as well. Has anyone else experienced this: I can pair certain BT accessories but not others, and even when paired the devices cannot connect without multiple connection requests.

My specific issue is that I have motorola rockr bt earbuds, and a Jabra car kit, and they both pair with the phone (after a few trys) but neither will automatically connect to the phone once they're turned on. With the earbuds I have to manually try to connect 6 or 7 times in a row before they'll connect, and even then they may only connect with the phone audio only. This wasn't an issue with the stock ROM so I'm assuming its the bt radio library for Froyo thats the problem?

I'm not new to development, but I'm kinda new to development on Android. I've been trying to learn more about the radios and how they're configured within the OS but I haven't found a lot of good documentation on it. I'd be happy to work this out for myself and post any improved radio to the forum but it would be helpful if someone could send me a link to some learning material? If someone has an improved Epic Froyo BT radio to flash that would be helpful as well :p
[Epic 4G General] popper668:
yes bluetooth issues as well, but different in that only when i turn bluetooth on it foreclose's. the bluetooth is otherwise not affeceted. only on the initial start up.
[Epic 4G General] Delta1Fox:
I've been having issues as well, but also mine a different. If I walk away from my phone and it get disconnected I manually need to re-establish the connect. Also sometimes the A2DP stops working requiring a reboot. And I've NEVER been able to get Bluetooth voice dialing to work on Froyo for the Epic. I had 2.2 running on my Hero before I switched phones and it worked great.

I am in no way a developer, but I do prowl this site everyday, so unfortunately I can't help with fixing it. More power to you and I hope you (or somebody) gets it worked out!
[Epic 4G General] revjtanton:
I had the Hero before the Epic as well and but I never tried 2.2 on it. I had BT issues with the Hero, but I didn't bother too much with it.

I had the same BT issues with the stock ROM when walking away, having to reconnect after coming back. Voice dialing never worked with BT either. I was hoping for an improvement with the upgrade, but I'd settle for what it was before. I'll start tinkering but I'm not sure what I'm doing with the radios....I'm a developer, but not an Android developer.
[Epic 4G General] Delta1Fox:
I noticed that too with the stock 2.1. However, Bluetooth voice dialing is a feature built into 2.2. I've read that some people having it work great, but other's like myself, are not having it work at all. Oh well. I'll live for now. Hopefully if it isn't fixed beforehand then it'll be fixed with the "official" release. LOL.
[Epic 4G General] sniperwitagun:
now that you mention it, i had this problem too doing some bluetooth file transfers between my buddy and I's phones last night. it struggled to connect multiple times but after the first successful transfer it seemed to stop having problems for a little. I'm moving back to 2.1 until we get some non-beta custom roms for froyo because i use bluetooth and gps everyday. just out of curiosity though, for those who are having problems, which rom and modem are you using?
[Epic 4G General] revjtanton:
I put the DI18 modern on there and that has seemed to fix the gps more or less. I think I'm going to go back as well. Maybe I didn't flush data enough times but layar can't find the camera, neither can the bar code scanner...it's close, but Froyo just isn't ready for the Epic yet.
[Epic 4G General] donkeysauce:
Still having Bluetooth problems with official Froyo release on Epic 4G

I was also having glitchy issues with BT oo my Epic running the leaked build of Froyo. I ended up flashing back to 2.1. The problem I was having was when I turned on my Motorola Finity, it worked fine.. for one call...) Then it wouldn't work again unless I turned the headset off and back on again. To make matters worse, after using BT one time, All sounds including ringers and media, came out of the earpiece instead of the actual ringer/speaker on the back of the phone.. Strange, huh? I had to reboot the phone to make it normal agian. Now to my surprise, after installing the newly released official Froyo build, I am having the same problem. Is anyone else having an issue like this with the official software? I am going to try the headset on another Epic at work, maybe its just a compatibility issue with my particular headset, but its very strange...
[Epic 4G General] donkeysauce:
I am using the new official Froyo release from Samsung/Sprint. having the same buggy issues I had with the old leaked version.
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
I can confirm these issues still exist in the official release.
[Epic 4G General] pkhoury:
I'm having the same problem, but when I use bluetooth in my car, it insists on transmitting sounds to my car's bluetooth, even when I repeatedly uncheck Use for media audio. I don't have an option in my car to disable A2DP. My only complaint with Eclair, other than speed (I'm using Bonsai4All, and previously, Syndicate) was that I was running out of space for software (was using EpicExperience). Sometimes, bluetooth won't connect at all, necessitating a phone reboot, or going into airplane moe and then back out. So I'm gathering that this is across the board, regardless of Froyo build? Syndicate didn't work at all with my car.
[Epic 4G General] jemarent:
I really hope this is BS, cause the site looks shady. The text looks like it was translated from something. Can anyone confirm this?

http://www.bulletinblips.com/2010/11/samsung-galaxy-s-will-not-be-updated-to.html
[Epic 4G General] BrianFX:
Are you serious? The grammar-level of that blog post makes the average youtube comment read like Shakespeare..
[Epic 4G General] jemarent:
lol, i got a chuckle myself. The subject line is like those random facebook spams with the double vouls.
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
*vowels

This is most-likely a Google Translate (or similar) job. Hence, the grammatical oddness.
[Epic 4G General] ydoucare:
As horrible as the grammar/translation is, it wouldn't surprise me if it were true.
[Epic 4G General] Ranger093:
Seems like Samsung noticed Noob left and said **** we ain't got anyone else to develop froyo for us.
[Epic 4G General] ecooce:
Always thought they did **** like that...Because you know they have their eyes on xda and sdx to see what the devs are doing.
[Epic 4G General] JungleJiujitsu:
Thats obviously from across the pond, with the translation creating the grammatical errors, and it mentions Vodafone which is Uk's and Spain's largest carrier, and it refers to our cell phones as terminals lol. At the end, it mentions that it may not be true for its United States users, so I really doubt it pertains to us.
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
I think where just waiting on sprint. I believe samsung did there part and no where for sprint to finish there part. There has been 3 froyo leaks already. Its just a matter of time
[Epic 4G General] humdrum2009:
And Samsung says.

King Kong anit got **** on me.:D
[Epic 4G General] mikkodd:
**** this **** im jumping off the epic for an evo..
[Epic 4G General] fhurricane:
| guess we can never expect to have 3.0 then
[Epic 4G General] jok3sta:
dont let the door hit ya :).. i for one will never downgrade to an evo.. have u ever used an evo after using your epic? screen size is great but thats where the pros over the epic stops. plus im running the leaked froyo fine on my phone..
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Damnit, I cannot wait to run Froyo. Hurry up Samsung.
[Epic 4G General] shook187:
I can't wait either. But I figure once it does, it will give us renewal feeling of happiness with our phone.
[Epic 4G General] jocala:
The beta runs great. It's a real pleasure using Froyo on the Epic. I find myself using my PC less and the Epic more.
[Epic 4G General] diego1985:
You got me ready to cancel my contract with 5 months left. And join in this epic fun lol.
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] little freaky:
Hello

When i boot my x1 and after boot when i shut it down the there is not any more android.

There is now Windows mobile.

Does a setting that change that it automaticly android start ?

regards
[XPERIA X1 Android Development] lgstoian:
Android is not booting from nand but rather from the sd card with the help of haret. You have to go boot it again or use a software for dual booting, go check then end of the first post of my thread.
[EVO 4G Accessories] _MetalHead_:
I was so excited when the mailman showed up today but that excitement quickly turned to disappointment when I opened up the package. This thing is a piece of junk. It doesn't fit tightly around my EVO, when I squeeze it it creaks. The silicone above the camera area slides around and doesn't sit down properly. The kickstand is a complete joke. I don't even think it's usable, it seems too flimsy to support the weight of the phone. I can't imagine it lasting more than a month. And the holster- Seriously, OtterBox? This is the best holster design you guys could come up with? It's way too big, it doesn't even seem like it was designed for the EVO. The phone doesn't fit snuggly in there at all, it just bounces around freely, which is ridiculous.

I honestly can't believe it took them 6 months to come out with this turd.
[EVO 4G Accessories] fastfed:
That sucks.. But why the defender over the commuter? I have the commuter and IMO it gives just as much protection.. and mine fits absolutely perfect.. Its awesome!!
[EVO 4G Accessories] _MetalHead_:
The Commuter is great, but it doesn't provide the level of protection that I need when I am on a job site. The Defender is thicker than the Commuter, and has much more coverage. Too bad it sucks lol. Going to stick with my Cyclops case until the Ballistic comes out. I'm returning the Defender.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
I have had my Defender for a week now and the kickstand is shattered. Junk is right. What did they expect? The kickstand is literally as thin as a sheet of paper. I have now been on hold with Otterbox for 20 minutes waiting to talk to someone.

I am amazed by the engineering choice on the kickstand. For me, the rest of the case works great but the kickstand is a deal-breaker.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
Is there a way to return the Defender without sitting on hold for an hour to talk to someone?
[EVO 4G Accessories] _MetalHead_:
Yeah their attempt at making a kickstand is laughable. I seriously don't know how they can charge $50 for this thing, it just feels cheep.

I tried calling them but I hung up after 25 minutes of waiting. I tried putting in my number for an automatic call back but that didn't work. Gonna try calling back in a couple hours.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
I sat on hold for about 20 minutes and finally got through. The kickstand problem is a known issue. They immediately offered to send me a replacement. I told them that unless it has a metal kickstand, I'm not interested. They then offered to just refund my card, no return required. I accepted.

I am really disappointed as I like the case overall (doesn't feel at all cheap to me, except the kickstand) and I had waited for a long time for this case to come out. Oh well. Just bad engineering. For $50 they should have used a metal kickstand. You would think someone in their QA would have looked at that kickstand and said, um, guys, this is gonna break.
[EVO 4G Accessories] wtmaxx25:
Definitley a let down IMO, come on. I am patiently awaiting the arrival of the Ballistic HC, at least they have videos on the tube to show how it is made and tortured, they evedently have revised the first conceptual design. looks more "ROUGH" duty.

I am sorry i paid for the otterbox as for patienly waiting for that defender i could have produced one out of a can of liquid grip from Home Depot. ARRRRRG.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
Just ordered an Impact Series

http://www.otterbox.com/HTC-EVO-Imp...-EVO4G_color=20&start=3&cgid=htc-evo-4g-cases

... which is basically just a nice silicone case with a screen protector. Using two coupons from here:

http://www.retailmenot.com/view/otterbox.com

... got the whole thing shipped for around $16. The Impact series is nice looking and a screen protector worth a damn alone would cost about $15 so I figured why not? They did right by me with the refund so I thought I would throw some more business their way. I like the Otterbox "look" so it's all good.
[EVO 4G Accessories] _MetalHead_:
I think their screen protectors are the best on the market. They really don't feel like there is a screen protector on at all. I've gone through a ton of different ones and the Otterbox one is the only one that I like.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
Cool, well for about $16 with the silicone case shipped I can hardly miss. Like I said, I would pay almost that much for a crappy screen protector alone here locally.
[EVO 4G Accessories] secondechomatt:
I'm sorry your experience has been so bad. Mine fits like a glove, even in the holster.

My only complaints are the aforementioned kickstand design and the bulkiness of the holster. Those are minimal for me anyways.

I'm very happy with it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] LoungeLizard:
I feel your pain. This thing looks like something they threw together a couple of days before release. I was somewhat satisfied with the case, but the holster is pure junk. For the lead time and price, I guess I expected too much.

sent from my Warmed Up HTC Evo
[EVO 4G Accessories] SilverStone641:
I have nothing but good things to say about the Defender. Mine fits snugly, rubber stays in place, holster is awesome and locks the phone in place, kickstand is just fine( i probably wouldn't use it to hold up the living room couch like some are apparently doing)

i really have no complaints. this thing is awesome. i also had a little chat with customer service before it was delivered. The cute sounding girl was courteous and extremely helpful. i'm sure that you're guys sub-par experience is simply due to the immense demand for cases.
[EVO 4G Accessories] nugzo:
What level of protection at a jobsite do you need that a commuter wont work? My commuter is very rugged, 2 layer (silicone then a hard shell) The screen protecter went on great and looks better than any i've used. How "much more coverage" does the defender have? I guess you are dodging bullets? ;) or are you a MMA fighter and keep your phone in your pocket while training? :D lol j.k If something is going to get through the commuter, i cant see the defender stopping it. Maybe you could offer up some examples? Dont get me wrong, if the defender is as bad as you say it is, then shame on otterbox. I absolutely love the commuter though. It is the best case i've owned for the EVO, and i've been through about 40 or more lol. I've probably tried 95% of what is out there. I've spent more on cases than the phone is worth....doh!! Here are a few of what i have left :)
[EVO 4G Accessories] _MetalHead_:
I work on a lot of construction sites, and want a case that eliminates all concern about my EVO getting damaged. It gets dusty and dirty so I need something that completely encases the phone. It also gets tossed in my tool bag and that alone requires a case with a superior degree of protection. I use my commuter when I'm at the office or just out and about but it won't cut it for protecting my precious EVO from the perils of a construction site. It's great, don't get me wrong, but no way is it sufficient for what I need it for. I have the Trident Cyclops, which I LOVE, I just wanted something different and was very let down with the Defender.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
The kickstand is garbage. A monument to bad engineering. The thinnest part of the kickstand is right at the business end where it will be under the greatest stress.

And you like the holster? Why? It is 2 sizes too large for the case and the clip on the back giggles from being too loose. Worst holster ever.

I'm glad you thought the girl in CS sounded cute - of course THAT is important to the forum :: facepalm ::
[EVO 4G Accessories] ClevelandWheeler:
I also have nothing bad to say about the case. Kickstand works great, I have even tried to break it and it still work fine. Belt clip is just what I needed, just wish they made a window mount to work with it like the commuter.

CW
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
You "tried" to break the kickstand on your $50 case? Did you try smacking your screen with a hammer to make sure it wouldn't break?

How did you "try" to break your kickstand and why do such a thing?
[EVO 4G Accessories] ClevelandWheeler:
Because I can.
[EVO 4G Accessories] openedmind:
I'm not impressed with the defender for evo. Its ok but not what I expected. I've used defenders in the past for other phones and they just seemed to be built much better.

I ordered two defenders on th 10th and had to call several times before

one

was shipped a week later. Called a few more times and finally, after 2 weeks of placing my original order, got a csr that knew how to do her job. She credited my account for a full refund and I received two more cases the next day.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ClevelandWheeler:
I haven't ever had a otterbox case before but it was quite simple I bought mine on a Saturday and had it on Tuesday morning.
[EVO 4G Accessories] nugzo:
The otterbox i had for my iphone was amazing. I have purposely thrown the phone across the room to show people how great the case was. Probably 10 -12 times and it always came back intact. I hated the built on screen protector though. I would expect that quality of case for the EVO coming from otterbox, guess not though....cos it isnt an iphone i guess :confused:
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
Thankfully Ballistic Cases has love for the EVO.
[EVO 4G Accessories] stanglifemike:
^^Yup, if they ever release it!! :D

I was waiting for one, but picked up my re-branded Seidio Rugged w/holster this morning and love it so far. Fits the phone super tight, holster has a nice tight fit, easy to release the phone from the holster, but not by accident. I like it, and it will be great for work. If the Otterbox Commuter had a holster, then I probably would have went with that, and used that case on the weekends too because it looks so good. This Rugged case will be on my Evo at work and off in the evenings and on weekends, just for work protection...
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
Have fun with it. I have the original design which some say chips the corners off easily and it peels. The rubber on my model also is flimsier. I may have to send mine in to get replaced.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Mayonesa:
You can use the sedio active holster with the commuter. Works like they are made for each other.

Im going to give ballistic a shop when it comes out. I would imagine soon since they put out the videos but who knows.
[EVO 4G Accessories] crisbv:
Thanks. Really good deal, also they give a free stand. Coupons worked good, 20% off + free shipping!
[EVO 4G Accessories] techspark:
dude you are freaking crazy..:eek: great collection !!

mayb if u can donate me a few to try on my poor naked evo...till the time i wait for the ballistic HC or maybe settle with the commuter :D

and now i definately think that commuter will be a great case...coz its coming from a guy who has used almost everythin...so i cant go wrong with the commuter :)
[EVO 4G Accessories] sheldonbotha:
yep add another one to the list.

I have mine clipped in the belt holster everyday in a office environment, not rough at all.

Dang thing broke after maybe using the kickstand 10 times.

As you said, it is paper thin, they cut the whole underside out and made it even more brittle.

For something that would be taking weight, why didnt they even just stamp out SS kickstands, like what the Evo comes standard with.

It's not like it would add enough extra weight to even care about.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SilverStone641:
Alright. i've had it. I defended the defender since they came out and now, i'm throwing in the towel. My kickstand has cracks all through it. If i use it, it will break.

the rubber casing surrounding the plastic casing is stretching out. it's loose all over the phone and it's having a hard time staying in the "groove" around the screen.

my buddy has an iphone 3gs in an otterbox case. it's been in that case since day one. since then, i've seen him throw it across the room, drop it in the pool and spill beverages all over it with no issues. with my case, if i USE the kickstand, it breaks. WTF!? seriously otterbox, this has NONE of the build qualities that the iphone cases have. i'm so disappointed. the worst part? i've been emailing support(forwarding the same message each day) for a week with absolutely no response.

I waited so long for this case. bragged to the iphone users that soon i'd have a badass case like they did. and then otterbox had to ruin it. thanks guys.
[EVO 4G Accessories] chumpysv:
I called to complain and was issued a full refund. The email receipt I got with refund info even called it an "inconvenience refund"
[EVO 4G Accessories] epphllps:
I haven't heard back from my email, but I only sent it once. Maybe I should bombard them like you. It's sad that they don't respond any better than they do. I don't have time to call and sit on hold with them due to my work schedule and they aren't open for calls on the weekends. This pretty sad. Have to say I won't go back to otterbox anytime soon. Kickstand is crappy and I was one of the people who wondered how everyone was breaking theirs only to realize mine was developing cracks all in it from very careful use. No issues with stretching but definitely have issues with dust getting in the case and having to open it and clean it at least once a week so far. All I can say is...NOT impressed.

Is calling the best way to get through to them? Has anyone had an email responded to at all??
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
I got my money back, but I'll never get the 25 minutes of my life I wasted on hold waiting to talk to a human there back.

For a company as excellent as Otterbox, how could they fail at this level?
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
Just call and wait on hold and they will eventually answer. Don't give them sh*t for being on hold so long. Just be nice and polite and you'll get refunded.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SilverStone641:
Because we don't have iPhones ^_^