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[Droid Incredible General] tmellen:
The law says that you have the rights to mess with your phone without being sued under the DMCA y the manufacturer for reverse engineering, decrypting, etc... the law does not guarantee you the ability or the access to do it, nor that the company has to fix what you broke during the process, just that it's no longer illegal for you to try.
[Droid Incredible General] jtcarnes:
The device has been out for 7 months. I honestly think that the fact that Verizon's still even advertising it is surprising. Normal "life" for a device like this is only a few months.
[Droid Incredible General] TheWizKid95:
i think this too, if it wasnt for the AMOLED shortage, the inc could have surpassed any phone Verizon could offer. also, i agree with the fact that verizon doesnt advertise it as much as it should be, the phone has MUCH potential. i think its just verizon's fault :/
[Droid Incredible General] byrong:
When I first got my Incredible a few months back, Verizon was ramping up their advertising campaign for the Droid X. At that time, I don't recall seeing any advertisements for the Inc (in any medium).

Now, all these months later, there are a few commercials for the Inc that I see playing fairly regularly on TV. I haven't paid enough attention to see if stores are also advertising it out front or not.

In any regard, it seems that Verizon is making a push for better public knowledge of this phone. Sure, it will eventually phase out like any other, but based on advertising, that doesn't seem to be the current trend.

I have two friends who recently (within the last two weeks) purchased Incs. One is a very educated consumer, the other barely can tell a phone from her shoes. Not sure what sold her on it, but it seems that they are still being 'pushed' to some degree.

My brother was in the Verizon store last week and commented that they were very short on Incredibles. The sales associate told him that they had recently been selling a lot of them.

Besides the TV ads, I realize that most of what I just said is completely anecdotal. Take it for what it's worth, but I think the Inc still has some time to go.

Of course, you could use all of my same points to make the opposite argument: that they are pushing them hard now so they can clear space for upcoming models (especially for the holiday season).

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
[Droid Incredible General] Aeckert:
I still see commercials for Inc.

I saw a Best Buy Black Friday ad for the Inc.

My uncle came by the house a day or two ago showing off a brand new Inc he got that week.

Nearly every model has it's rise and fall, and I'm fine with that so long as there's a decent community for the DInc that we see advancements in roms and such. MIUI is what I use and it's picking up good theme developers now with the new theming system, so regardless if the phone is losing populatity, there's enough people to provide rich content for a while.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Grasping at straws here, but has anyone been able to map any of the Oid emulators or PSX to function as a controller? Due to the iffy multi touch response of the Gtablet, the virtual pad is not very playable for emulators. Definitely the device, since Incredible and Droid X work decently with vpad.

People have reported keyboards working (another question- how people got them working), so wonder if anyone tried.
[G Tablet General] h4x0rjdag:
Yea works great. I did it at work last night
[G Tablet General] rushless:
TnT Lite 2.0?

What keyboard or method (usb or bluetooth)? Probably not bluetooth (if TnT), since no way to currently adjust the input keyboard option.

Thanks
[G Tablet General] Crimton:
no tnt will not let you choose other input methods, as far as i know there is not a mod or fix for this either. it really stinks :(
[G Tablet General] rushless:
A little confused then, since this contradicts other posters- IF they are using a TnT based rom.

I would say I need to test myself to be sure, but already have. Like you, Crim, I had ZERO luck getting ANY usb device to work that I tried. Bluetooth or USB.

Not sure what to make of reports of success. Only thing that seems to make sense is they are not using TnT based firmware. One person reported wifi usb controllers working, which is as likely as the viewing angles improving ;)

I know they meant bluetooth, but the point is the info is getting a tad convoluted.

Real simple:

Has anyone gotten a usb or bluetooth keyboard to work with the TnT Lite 2.0?

If "yes":

1. Bluetooth or USB?

2. How did you get it to work?

3. What model & part number for the device?

4. Are you really using TnT 2.0?
[G Tablet General] h4x0rjdag:
1. USB. i used a dell keyboard and a lenovo keyboard and they both work. they are generic keyboards with no special keys

2. i plugged it in, i rebooted the first time because someone else said they had to do that. but i tested plugging in without reboot and that worked for me also on both keyboards.

3. Model No. UPC300-2.2 .... is this the one you needed off the back of the gtab?

4. yes im using tntlite2.0. in my 'about tablet' it says for model number "GTablet-TnT-Lite" and when i installed it i only followed the directions for the 2.0 but i can double check if you know a place i can check the actual version

5. usb mouse did not work for me with or without reboots. the laser in the mouse did turn on and the mouse received power, but the gtab did nothing. i even opened an emulator to try to map the mouse to some keys and it did not pick up anything
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Thanks! So USB KB's work, but bluetooth KB's do not with TnT FW.
[G Tablet General] Crimton:
ok, maybe i worded that poorly. i was able to use a usb keyboard and that qualifies as another input method. but as far as selecting another input method other than the stock tnt keyboard that is a big no go(wiimote, swype, stock android keyboard, swiftkey etc...)but yes i plugged in a standard microsoft usb keyboard and it did work right away. that isn't really what i'm looking for though.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Almost like the OEM did it on purpose. Perhaps in a naive effort to force VSs own peripherals on folks at a later date?? Nah! ;)
[G Tablet General] liquidcaffeine:
Same here. I have also had success with RF wireless keyboards that have a USB transceiver.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Thanks for the clarifications!

I wonder if there are any USB game controllers that poll using ASCII mapping like keyboards do?
[Epic 4G Android Development] humdrum2009:
I was the tester and its working great
[Epic 4G Android Development] shabbypenguin:
who is shabbypinguin? :P
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
one to many penguins thats who!
[Epic 4G Android Development] TheBurgh:
Does gps work with version? Can't get gps to work with any dk17 rom
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
I'm gonna say that it falls into the category of "works for me"

just go outside when you first launch maps(navigation/the gps button)
[Epic 4G Android Development] amoneyx420:
A good day :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] TheBurgh:
Wipe data and all caches before running odin. I already have dk17 on the phone
[Epic 4G Android Development] adamw1101:
I would like top know if this wil make gps at least work without ising di18
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
Instead of asking why not try, you're on a developer board, that more or elss means you're willing to mess with stuff to see if it works.

As i've said it works for me, your mileage may very so give it a shot and for gods sake READ THE FIRST POST as odin will wipe your phone(no sd just phone)
[Epic 4G Android Development] mattallica76:
Thanks. This is a nice convenient time saver. Hopefully there will be one of these when the official froyo is released.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Cool stuff. Thanks for the nod. ;)

Sent from my Epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] adamw1101:
geez sorry
[Epic 4G Android Development] austin420:
thanks for this
[Epic 4G Android Development] gophergun:
Odin is hanging on boot.bin. I wish there was a way we could do all this via an update.zip, Odin is such a pain in the ass to work with.
[Epic 4G Android Development] adamw1101:
Always reboot pc before running odin and make sure you don't have pc studio running
[Epic 4G Android Development] flopez76:
Are we supposed to check Reboot and DebugEn? Or do we just leave it as is like the 1st post says? Because in the guide about using ODIN it says to check those

EDIT; My bad forgot that this is the new version of ODIN, so I guess we just follow the instructions
[Epic 4G Android Development] gophergun:
Done, still having the same issue. I've never heard of PC Studio before looking it up now, so I presume it's not running, unless it's installed with the drivers or something. In any case, I'm gonna try uninstalling MSE and see if that makes a difference, but I've been screwing around with Odin and this half-bricked phone for two days now, so I don't have high hopes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
for odin 1.61(with the victory .pit) only check timereset and reboot

NOTHING else. with this rom.

make sure that you start odin first before connecting the usb(just to be sure)

and if you have issues, make sure that the usb is capable of the proper power, ie not through a hub, and disconnect non essential usb things.(mouse and keyboard are obviously essential)

if that fails try removeing the drivers fully, and reinstlal them with the phone plugged into a different port.
[Epic 4G Android Development] TheBurgh:
If you already have DK17 installed, can you wipe data and all caches and start from scratch. I can't get gps to work with DK17 or any rom
[Epic 4G Android Development] globalninja:
Really wish this would get stickied on the first page lol

Sent from my Epic 4g on 4loko
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Agreed. Whosdaman?

Sent from Carl Sagan through the Cosmos
[Epic 4G Android Development] jpeepers:
How long should this take to flash? I put the phone in download mode and opened Odin. Loaded the .pit and Extended-D.tar files and hit start. It starts out ok then get to "factoryfs.rfs and hangs there forever?

Am I doing this wrong? Edit: I put the .tar file under the "phone" tab is that correct or should it be under the "pda" tab?

Just came over from a Hero so I am a little new to flashing a Samsung.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
it should take about 2-5mins and youll see progress on the phone as well as the odin window.

it should be in the PDA slot though not phone.

just disconnect phone pull battery close odin and start again.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
So, I'm prepping to flash with Viper v4.

I need to run through the steps here.

Just got my Epic and it has DI18

Why would I need the DK17 file?

Thanks!

UPDATE: NM, I understand now X^) you don't flash the DK17 after, just extract a few files. Perhaps some section headings in the OP would add some clarity.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jpeepers:
Thanks, That's what I thought I did wrong. I put the tar file in the phone section.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] MeetFace:
Delete this plz
[Epic 4G Android Development] natsilani:
So I'm pretty new to rooting and flashing and stuff, but I managed to put this on my Epic recently. Initally there were hickups and for the first day or so the phone liked to randomly hang and reboot. It now seems to be behaving well, especially after cleaning up some apps, and I have both bluetooth and wifi without crashing, thanks to the fix.

Still having an issue with my GPS, however - it will not lock, a common problem with froyo it seems. I'm assuming that of the many fixes out there I will find the one that works. Has anyone with this issue in this froyo build found a good method?

There is another annoyance though - neither Barnacle nor Wifi Tether are able to give me a broadcasted network, over bluetooth or wifi. Barnacle seems to think I don't have root, though I have explicitly remembered it to have su access. Wifi tether just gives me a generic "error". Uninstalled and reinstalled barnacle, rebooted phone several times, nada. Anyone else having this issue?

The other thing I suspect might be messing this up is a mistake I made when first firing up Odin - I used the phone instead of the pda spot for the tar file. Subsequently I wiped and reflashed this thing a few times, but I've been reading that this spot is for flashing a modem of some sort, so I could imagine that that's how I may have screwed things up. How can I fix that?

Thanks for the help and for putting the awesomeness of froyo in our hands :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] smoothone:
Is it possible to get the odex version in an edify ext4 zip? I enjoy running odexed roms and tailoring them to my taste. They are just smooth and quick. I've asked noob to modify his posted DK28 zip but have not had any luck. Thanks again.
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
Don't see why not ;)

You could cheat and odin it then just adb pull /system and put it in place of the /system in any of the edified existing roms as well if you don't feel like waiting til tomorrow.
[Epic 4G Android Development] smoothone:
Thanks tomorrow will be fine. I don't want to Odin it as I will lose ext4 and I want to run it on ext4 but cannot at the moment since I have CW3. Hence I need an edified script so I can just flash it on my ext4 file system. Thanks again.
[Epic 4G Android Development] RushAOZ:
odex vs deodexed? Whats the difference??
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
OP updated, let me know if it works right ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
I'd suggest looking through the thread or using that search button, odex vs deodex isn't an epic specific thing it's an android thing and there a tons of threads about it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] smoothone:
I would also suggest using the search button for answers. There is a Wiki in the first thread in this section and a Q&A section in the second thread here. Please use these in the future. Many of the new guys around here are not following the forum rules and are congesting the dev threads with a lot of Q&A. Thanks

Yes sir that is perfect, thanks again!

Edit: Spoke to soon, it didn't flash. I got a "can't open error". Sorry will edit this post with the exact error in a bit. I still took the entire system/app and system/framework folders and copied them over with root explorer so thanks for the files but couldn't flash it just in case someone else needed this.
[Epic 4G Android Development] niv3d:
If we complete this odin flash (stock dk28, root, and CW) can we flash custom roms?
[Epic 4G Android Development] gullzway:
Yes............

Sent from an Epic 3G on SERO using XDA app
[Epic 4G Android Development] MedicStuder:
This is Hilarious

I have to post this and tell on my self. Let me just say that I am not new to flashing so I can't believe I did this but hopefully it helps Noobs to understand that you need to read directions no matter how many times you have flashed ROM/Files. So here is my hilarious story:

I downloaded the file all ready having odin on my computer. I didn't read directions in OP so all I did was rename the .rar file to .tar and tried for an hour to flash it and of course it wouldn't it just kept erroring. I couldn't figure it out and almost gave up then figured I would look in the .rar file and hey guess what I found the files i needed...I can't believe I did this. Hope you all get a laugh out of this as i did.:p
[Epic 4G Android Development] b0hica:
this post just saved my phone! my phone would only boot into clockworkmod 2.5.1.0 and i couldn't install any roms at all. at least with this factor reset i can start anew and break it as many times as i want now.

THANKS THANKS THANKS
[Epic 4G Android Development] guruleenyc:
What version of CWM is included in this?
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
original 2.5.1.0

Havent gotten around to making a ext4 odin yet.
[Epic 4G Android Development] walkbyfaith:
Help

I keep running into issues while putting roms on my phone. When I try to install it says, Download aborted please switch to edify scripting(updater-script and update binary) to create working update zip packages.

What does this mean?
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
it means you're on CW3.0.0x and ext4 which is not part of this thread yet. i guesst you post in the rom thread you're trying to install for further help
[Epic 4G Android Development] Warchilde:
Still getting battery popup after flashing, what do I do

I am kind of new to all this and I wanted a pretty plain jane (i.e. essentially stock) rom for my phone. The main thing I was looking for was a rom that had eliminated the battery popup and a way to get rid of the stock bloatware.

I flashed the ROM by following the instructions you included but I'm still getting the battery fully charged popup. Anybody got any ideas on how to correct it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Warchilde:
Sorry

The ROM I used was the following,

SPH-D700-DK28-Extended (ODEX Version)
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
hrm odd, yeah just grab the flashable fix in this forum(i think if not its in themes and apps) and CW flash it and you should be good.
[Epic 4G Android Development] N0ctrnl:
Wifi reboot

I had the same problem but if you look at the bottom of the post there is a fix. you have to install a file browser that supports viewing and editing system directories, (I chose ES File Explorer). You need extract the dbus.rar file you downloaded onto your sd card. Go to your phone and open your file explorer.

Additional permissions must be turned on to access system files. To do this in EX File Explorer, open the program, hit your menu key and select settings. scroll down and select root options, check root explorer and although it only gives options for a cyanogen rom and a HiAPK rom I tried each one and the HiAPK setting worked for me. You then will need to check the box to Mount File System. THIS IS NECESSARY FOR THE FIX TO WORK. I have found that every time I use the file explorer now I have to go back and uncheck and recheck both boxes to resume functionality. Go back to settings menu.

I also changed the home directory to /system/ for easier navigation. May not be necessary but makes things much easier. Be careful not to change any system settings or files in the system directory unless you are SURE you know what you're doing.

Now, navigate in the file explorer to the file you extracted called dbus.conf and copy it by long press and choose the copy option. navigate to /system/etc and paste the file there. I also pasted the file in /system/etc/wifi for good measure. you are done!

Reboot your phone and turn on the wifi. It worked for me and hopefully it will work for you as well. Good luck!
[Epic 4G Android Development] codkill:
I dont know how this happened, but i flashed this correctly but odin hung on boot.bin for 1 hour so i figured it wasnt going to happen. I tried multiple computers and re-trying the process, but now my phone is a total brick. No lights when plugged in and wont turn on. Ive never run into a problem like this and have been modding phones for years. I'm going to sprint to pick up a new one, but am fearful that this will happen again. Any ideas what could have caused this or what i could have overlooked? Thank you for the help. (I also broke both of my hands and this took forever to type)

Also, I'm on windows 7 64bit. I have tried other ports and have tried multiple times until it ended up a brick.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DRockstar:
codkill, whenever an odin or heimdall flash is performed, there is always a minute but unlikely chance that boot.bin or sbl.bin can hang. If either one of those get borked, you're left with a brick. The phone can't boot, even into download mode, with a corrupted boot or sbl.

It is very rare when this happens, but is always a chance that is taken when flashing the entire system with odin or heimdall.

Sorry you've had to find out the hard way... you'll just need to redeem your hardware warranty with sprint.

Good luck, and try not to get discouraged.
[Epic 4G Android Development] codkill:
Thanks for the reply. And Ill have my new phone on Monday (thanks TEP) I'm just worried because it hung multiple times on boot.bin on 3 different computers. Was it the phone not accepting it or something else? I want to try again with my new phone but would be quite embarrassed going back to sprint with another bricked phone. Should I try a different computer all together or should that not be the issue? Thanks again.
[Epic 4G Android Development] nitty917:
flashed this, phone works fine then my incoming ringtone doesnt work no more?
[Epic 4G Android Development] diptenkrom:
i am using the dk28 odex version on this thread. and i really love it, except the following few issues.

my phone seems to go through the battery faster, and the home screen hangs when leaving an app. it did not used to do this. sometimes i will have to wait 5-10 seconds to see icons and dock. touch is unresponsive for the same timeframe. i loaded adw launcher on to this and it seems better, but i like touchwiz. the other problem is if the phone is ringing, i can't silence ringer with the power button, this was very handy at work...

i have already reflashed this twice, as the first time left me with a unusable gps.

i even removed a few of the stock apps, but i had them on the phone before with no problem.

btw wireless tether works fine for me, just as it did in eclair.
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
Well first it IS stock and not a tuned custom rom, the lag could be a few things , i'd suggest getting startup control pro and killing some servers from launching(if you wish to remain stock) like DRM and calendar and navigation etc)

you can try cleaning your cache from CW after you odin flash this and wipe the dalvik, you might need to set some stuff back up like emails but it should clean it up if the flash didnt.

as for the phone thing, shrug thats stock i guess.

so once again this is NOT a custom rom with ANY tweaks other than the gps and root, if you want addition "hacks" and features i'd suggest flashing another rom and not using stock.
[Epic 4G Android Development] codkill:
So this is my 3rd bricked epic from this process. All of the files are fine, I've tried on 3 separate computers now, and there is no user error (not trying to sound arrogant). It always freezes on factoryfs.frs and there is no progress bar that moves for this file and from a 90% charge, the phone died before I gave up. What could be going on?
[Epic 4G Android Development] diptenkrom:
i know it is stock, that is why i like it, but the 2.1 seemed faster. jsut was after hearing if someone else had teh same experience, or if the deodex was more responsive. or if maybe i did something wrong.

also wondering if the feature to silence ringers was an otion i could select somewhere. the phone did it on di18, and my wife's intercept also does this with 2.1 and 2.2. i t should be a standard phone feature, not rom dependant.
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
yeah something is not right with either the cable or the usb ports, it shouldnt drain the battery when doing it as it charges from that port even in download mode(or off for that matter) it could be that the USB is going to sleep or something else related to power so that it loses connection. however if it botches on factoryFS.rfs you should be able to pull the battery elave it off for a couple of mins put the battery back in with the usb unplugged and start up the phone with 1 and the power button to go back into download mode.

when its writing the factoryFS you should see a blue bar on the bottom of the phone screen AND a bar in odin as it goes across. if it doesnt show up just unplug the phone do that above and start again. I'd suggest disabling ALL pwoer saving on the PC in question and make sure that you can mount the phone as a usb drive to copy back and forth.
[Epic 4G Android Development] art3mis-nyc:
deodex vs odex is sort of a "your mileage may very" sorta thing on being faster.

deodex mainly just makes it easier to theme(via flashes)

as to the phone power button ringer stop thing dunno, i've never used that.(dont forget that just because it's all android doesnt mean that certain things are standard ;) )