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[EVO 4G General] creyc:
I agree with a_swellguy, there are pro's and con's to each, and I can definitely confirm iPhone pictures do look great, even in low light. Sometimes my Evo pics are very blurry and noisy in low light.

iPhone's battery life is also about twice what we get, and although multitasking is quite limited you don't have to spend as much effort worrying about maximizing battery life with task killers and such. It just kind of works.

The screen thing is kind of a wash, yes the iPhone is higher resolution, but I'd much rather have the extra screen size of the Evo than slightly smaller pixels, I think the Evo's resolution is already pretty dang high as it is and plenty for anything I do.

Sprints network slaughters AT&T any way you cut it however. :D
[EVO 4G General] nohbdyshero:
I work in the cellphone industry and VERY few people in this industry use any kind of GSM (AT&T or T-mo) service, why you ask? because they suck! I work in the middle of nowhere a lot those that use ATT I have the hardest time getting a hold of them because they are out of service when my Sprint works just fine.

VZW and Sprint have the best networks I have worked on, handsdown. They also have better roaming agreements with the regional carrier to get coverage in the middle of nowhere in the mountains.

I like my EVO and I am glad I am not tied to that POS ATT network (if they really want to call it that).
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
I met this incredibly hot girl at the bar last night. She wouldn't give me the time of day even though she saw me arrive in my Ferrari and I was wearing a $2000 suit.

Then I was talking on my EVO and she walked up and tugged on my sleeve. "Is that an EVO" she asked? "Why, yes it is", I responded. "AWESOME!", she said, "let's go back to my place..."

God I love this phone! ;-)
[EVO 4G General] Jbcarrera:
LoL. you humor is great
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
the evo is essentially the android version of the iphone BUT with a **** ton more options.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Actually there is a Samsung Android phone that might come out that looks just like the iPhone, I think it was for T-Mobile. Its ugly as hell. My EVO is always the center of attention in any setting, and yes women flock to it.

I think it was the Facinate
[EVO 4G General] crisbv:
IPhone users were drooling over my EVO too.

I always show them my boot animation with android pissing on the apple! :p
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
Using an iPhone is like wiping your ass with a diamond bracelet. It doesn't work very well but you sure look good doing it.
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
Well Im in the middle here..

I think the iphone4 is a great phone.. I mean the iphone is the reason we have our phones. I do like the phone but I love my EVO.

I think the Iphone (idiot phone) is for the everyday users. My mother can easily use an Iphone, but when it comes to my phone and all my screens and docks its a little harder for her..

I feel the Iphone is for everyone and some geeks

But the Evo gives you the ease of use plus we can really dig into it and get geeky with it..

BUT!!!! WHAT PISSES ME OFF SO BAD!!!

iphone/ipad is able to stream home computer videos/movies and there is NO program that can allow that with our EVO..

I dont understand this ****!! It really SUCKS!!!
[EVO 4G General] krypto1300:
I actually had a coworker of mine convert to an EVO from a iPhone 4 after playing with my rooted EVO. He have the iPhone to his GF and said he's never going back to it.

True Story!
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I own both.

Batterylife: iPhone 4 kills the EVO.

Apps: iPhone 4/iOS destroys the EVO/Android. Better designed, better functions, better developers. Not close.

Games: Not even close, iPhone 4 performs better than the EVO, looks better than the EVO, and offers a WHOLE more and at a higher quality.

OS Experience: iOS by a land slide. Everything is done smoothly and looks good while doing it.

In terms of hardware: Build-wise the iPhone 4 looks better, feels better. EVO has the larger display which feels better but the iPhone 4 has the better display and looks better. iPhone 4 overwhelming out performs the EVO camera-wise, both in the back but especially in the front.

Data Speed: EVO, under 3G I get 1-1.5 Mbps and 3-9 Mbps under WiMax. iPhone 4 is 1-5 Mbps under 3G depending on whether I'm in a HSPA+ area which in NYC seems to be most places I'm at. I like WiMax for tethering but is too battery intensive for mobile use, for mobile use, HSPA+ is a whole lot better. Since I'm on the subject, this will be disappointing in the future as a Sprint/CDMA user. We'll be stuck on regular 3G/EVDO (~1.5 Mbps on a good day average) for 3G and be stuck with battery sucking WiMax/4G as a alternative. AT&T and maybe T-Mo will have LTE for 4G and HSPA+ (7-21 Mbps) as a fall back for 3G.

Now for some side notes, I'm a developer and designer by trade so both iOS and Android appeal to me. As a designer, iOS is a hands down winner. The experience is far above anything Android has to offer both for the OS and third part apps. Most well known designers go to iOS to develop and drag the developers with them. I originally got Android as a second device for work (iPhone 4 is my personal phone) because of Google voice -- the iPhone 4 now has a official Google Voice app so the gap is closing for me.

Although I got Android for Google Voice specifically, I've come to enjoy some of the features. Most notably the pull down to show active app services / notifications and to a lesser extent widgets. What I hate about it is that I have to modify the hell out of it to make it worth using. I jail break my iPhone 4 too and that really puts it on level with Android in terms of function (a lot of which BTW is also achieved through rooting) and pulls it ahead because of UX/UI + third party apps, but even if I didn't, I'd be more than satisfied with it (which isn't the case with a stock EVO).

If given a choice between only one, I'd keep the iPhone 4 but would wish that the display was larger keeping everything else same. I now expect a billion fanboys to start kicking and screaming over this post.
[EVO 4G General] creyc:
Nah, you bring up some good arguments, but I feel the comment on the available applications is quite the opposite from my experience.

Yes the iPhone app store is much more mature, with many times the number of apps available, but I have found the scope of the apps to be quite limited thanks to Apple's restrictive closed-market system.

Yes there's about 400 different versions of every imaginable app, so long as it's what apple deems 'OK'. On my Evo I can download a tethering app, or an app to manage my torrents, or a whole host of widgets. Every time I browse the iPhone store I find mostly games and overpriced apps without a lot of real flexibility like android provides.

An iPhone on Sprints network with Android's open market system and Evo's screen would be the ultimate :D
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
That's what Cydia is for. If you're on here for the EVO, you'd use Cydia on the iPhone.
[EVO 4G General] fixxxer2008:
the iphone isn't all too bad. i just would like to see more options as far as customization goes. all of the those icons on the screen look stupid. this is one reason i love android, so many themeing options. i can make my phone look like whatever i want with widgets and custom icons, launchers. the funny thing is i thin droid has far surpassed winmo in the themeing department.
[EVO 4G General] Skeptron:
Now we could just get the awesome games the iOS has on the android then id be good
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
I wont kick and scream at all.. But will tell you when it comes to business purposes the EVO BLOWS away an iphone..

As for battery life.. LMAO!! right.. I get 2 days using my evo to the max, why.. because I have an extended battery.. When Apple realizes people that use their phone for business purposes needs to be able to use it and not watch a black screen..

same goes with the storage.

and from my experience stock for stock the evo battery life is not that far behind.. Iphone4 has HORRIBLE battery life as well..
[EVO 4G General] bwillet:
Regarding battery life, it's not an apples to apples comparison (no pun intended). GSM is always going to be better on battery than CDMA. Until we get an iPhone 4 on CDMA, or an EVO on AT&T, we really can't compare. Closest we may be able to get it are the Galaxy S phones on all 4 carriers. Anyone know how the GSM models compare to the CDMA models in terms of battery life? GSM will undoubtedly be better, but take the "percentage of betterness" and apply it to the iPhone vs EVO argument and we'll at least have an apple to virtual apple comparison.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The iPhone 4 lasts all day everyday, no problem. Two days? Sounds nice but who doesn't have access to charge after a whole day of use? And a extended battery on a 4.3" phone? No thanks. It sucked to have one on a tiny phone (Sprint HTC touch) and it'd be beyond worse on the EVO.

BTW, I said that I used the EVO + GV for business purposes. The EVO doesn't have better battery life than the iPhone 4, it's not close. I do carry two batteries but never use the second since I have most of my devices plugged in all day.
[EVO 4G General] clamknuckle:
Not the point. Your wireless device becomes a lot less useful when it's attached to a charger. Some people don't have a normal schedule where you get to go home and let your phone charge all night, it lasts for a day, rinse, repeat.

I have an extended battery because I'm one of those people. I work a full time job, a part time job, and then side work as well. I may or may not have access to a charger during my day, just depends on what's going on. It's nice knowing that if I had to, I could go 2 days on a charge.

It also doesn't add much in the way of thickness at all. It's a hair thicker than my non extended battery with an otterbox on it. Both of which fit in my pocket just fine.
[EVO 4G General] liverstealerJobs:
Who would design a portable electronic device where you can't change the battery? And who would buy it?

I say that to every iphone owner who has to hook up his phone to a charger, while i merely power down, pop the cover off, replace battery with the spare one from my fifth pocket, put cover back on, and power on and resume festivities.

That is so fundamental, it should be the first rule of Cell Phone Club.

Second rule should be never buy anything from a creepy, turtlenecked, liver stealer from some fruit company in Cupertino.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
FYI, there are "extended batteries" for the iPhone 4. I don't own one but have a friend that does. It acts as a case but includes a battery pack that supplies power to the phone. I'm not sure of the capacity but it's 1500 mAh or more.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Pure class.
[EVO 4G General] f0xy:
There would be no iPhone without the guys at Nokia
[EVO 4G General] zone23:
Didn't know you could replace the battery in a iPhone when it dies thats good to know. I guess iPhone users can just do like I do. I have 4 batteries and that can equate to anywhere from 28 hours of heavy use to about 50 hours of light use. Bought two batteries and a charger on ebay for 10 bucks and had a battery from my Touch Pro 2. Haven't been anywhere in the US that didn't have an outlet. How do you change the battery in an iPhone again? I don't see a battery door, help!
[EVO 4G General] Kooper113:
Everyone loves my EVO because with my wifi hotspot everyone gets to go online lol. I have an ipod touch which I use a lot to listen to music/play games (fps/resolution is much nicer on it than the EVO, sorry, but it's true) but having to be attached to wifi makes it difficult.

My EVO + ipod 4G combo is awesome. I have every app both android and iOS at my fingertips, and with my EVO (running cyan) giving off the wifi hotspot for my touch to connect to, both devices enjoy an internet connection.

Just wish the touch's camera was even anywhere near as good at the EVO's, but alas it's trash, the EVO's camera is much much nicer.

So I say why even bother with an iPhone when you can just go with the same combo I have... Get the best of both worlds!
[EVO 4G General] mitchellvii:
Lemme tell you the REAL problem with the iPhone and why I will never own one.

It looks like a chick phone.

You know how some cars just look like chick cars and when guys drive them it always looks kinda gay? The iPhone is like that. It has very feminine lines. The EVO looks like a dudes phone. The iPhone is a convertible Volkswagen Rabbit. The EVO is a Shelby Cobra.
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
Till you get on a plane to go to a meeting and in the taxi on the way to the office..Or you go somewhere for an entire day, like I am going to disney with my family in 1 week, my company is 24 hours and my phone is forwarded to my cell, if I had an I phone I would be screwed,i know that from 6am till 12am I'm going to have a phone and one that I know will work all day and night and that's with heavy use. Hours of talking and composing emails and using my online programs to conduct my company.

i always get a kick out of people who say. "when am I not near a power source" the fact is when I'm near a power source I have a computer and obviously use that..again the iphone is nice for what it is and its usually girls who love to text and update their facebook status.. Both phones can compare, please don't act as if the iphone is superior because with out a way to add a bigger battery its just a toy. And I'm getting a kick out of you thinking an extended battery some how makes the phone to big, lol you obviously never held one because honestly it's as if it should of been designed that way from the factory..every test I have read and my own side by side comparison has the iphone battery doing just as bad as the evo..
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
Those aren't extended batteries.you're taking about a battery pack that plugs into the charge port. All they do really is just charge the battery, plus people I know that have them says it destroys your already choppy reception to the point its almost not useable..
[EVO 4G General] bigmoogle:
Isn't that a portable charger?
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
That's exactly what it is..actually its better than nothing, but the problem is as you know its charging the internal battery, it has an on and off switch on the case.and from the ones I've seen and heard about, they only charge to about fifty to seventy percent.they make it for our phones too but o obviously we don't need them..you can also get a disposable one from walgreens and it comes with a universal adapter for many phones including ours , you put regular batteries in them..the iphone is the same concept only they make it so its part of the phone...you still connect a wire to the charging port..again its better than nothing but you just cannot compare that phone to this one and I used to have the iphone 3..
[EVO 4G General] clamknuckle:
Yeah I know, I never said there wasn't. You said "Sounds nice, but who can't get to a charger". I was simply saying that there are some people that cannot.
[EVO 4G General] louforgiveno:
What?? Vlc Stream & Convert in the market, works great even over 3g
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
Yea right.. Just spent 45 minutes with this crap..

JUNK!!

Why can't it be like Zumo..

INSTALL ON COMPUTER

INSTALL ON PHONE

Open phone app, connect, point phone to a folder you want, if its music or a movie it streams...

With this crap it took my 20 minutes just to scan properly and get the IP..

Now another 20 minutes trying to figure out how to get it to work, and NOTHING works at all..

I added a folder with all my movies to the cache or whatever and NOTHING!
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
I use Orb Live to stream from my home pc to evo, works even with my dynamic ip connection
[EVO 4G General] nolageek:
Did you really just say all that? Wow. Have you even seen the hard-lined, double flat sided, brushed alluminum iPhone4?

(Not to mention I'm gay and have an Evo.)
[EVO 4G General] nolageek:
I would find some friends who have used them. I have gone 20 hours with my iPhone and my mophie powered case with very heavy use. I love my evo but I have to charge 2+ times a day during the week. I would LOVE it if mophie made us a powered case.
[EVO 4G General] catman51:
Hope you all saw this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
[EVO 4G General] fmedina2:
I have nothing against the iPhone, but all of the iPhone owners I have met are too hard headed to even considering looking at any other phone as a possible competitor. If it isn't an iPhone, then it must suck. :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
Lol why would you even want that when you can get a real battery for it on the evo? The mophie is just the only choice as you can't actually get to the real battery..which is the stupidest thing for any electronic device, especially a phone...
[EVO 4G General] Mstrowe:
+1

I have that boot animation too and my iphone friends love it so do my bb and other cell friends. Love my Evo.
[EVO 4G General] smarcin:
Geesh! And I'm a girl and have an Evo. Got it on launch day, too. :D
[EVO 4G General] fchipm:
I really love the iPhone 4 - every time I play with one in the store I'm quite jealous. But I could never switch to AT&T due to the 2gb cap. I don't see how some hardcore phone people can deal with that.

My EVO is on wifi whenever I'm in range (work/home) - and I really only use data for streaming Pandora and Tunein - and still I use almost 3gb's a month. Does Android simply just use more data than iOS? More polling, etc?
[EVO 4G General] ausch30:
Winamp remote works as well
[EVO 4G General] fastfed:
Lol I like it too..and had gen 3..but I chose the evo over the iphone, for many reasons..why are you jealous
[EVO 4G General] Skeptron:
Only thing I like about the iOS are the games that game devs are making for the iOS. Very jealous of games in iOS.

heres one that i want ported to android

http://gamerinvestments.com/video-game-stocks/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/nba-elite-iphone-screen.jpg
[EVO 4G General] SilverStone641:
Get outta here!! Everyone knows there are no girls on the internetz :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G General] NewZJ:
heh, I seen many girlz on the internetz, in various stages of undress even, some on screen some in front of screen XD
[EVO 4G General] louforgiveno:
Yeah it was a major pain in the (iphone user), but it works great, there is no need to create a folder(with movies etc), cause you can browse your entire computer within the app.

ps- It isn't mentioned but if you search for (no-ip) create an account, this allows your phone to find your computer-unless you have a static ip from your isp.

Follow the guides here http://traveldevel.com/vlc-stream-convert

It really is worth it, the quality is way better than hulu ,set up bitrate options in app.

Good Luck
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
Extended battery for my evolution thanks, my stock battery lasts all day anyways
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
Simply put....iphones are for people who like to be told what they can do, not what they COULD do. And to say, "I have the iphone 4."

End of story. Out of box functionality and they are happy because they have no desire for more.

Android users like open functionality. They like knowing they CAN do somthing. They hate limitations and they are in constant search of personal refinement and improvement.

Never mind that itunes is the worst piece of software ever. EVER.

If you have a mac....iphone is for you.

PC......you'll wish you had a droid or you already do.
[EVO 4G General] bigmoogle:
Or they like the games on the iPhone.
[EVO 4G General] achllles:
I have both Evo and iPhone 4. Love big screen of Evo, but iPhone 4 has better hardware quality. I pay about 65 bucks for each. Evo on sero, and ATT gets 15% off per month.

If iPhone 4 had same size screen as Evo, I would not have given it to my wife.
[EVO 4G General] criffaaa1:
Can you upload that boot animation,I want

Sent ala Criffvotalk
[EVO 4G General] Thomas1218:
Hey, Im a Mac and I love my EVO. Thats not to say I wouldnt mind an iPhone either though. Also have you heard of jailbreaking? A lot of people I know with iPhones didnt just take it as the out of box experience it could be. They jailbroke them to allow them access to some of same stuff that we have access to after we root. Sure you cant have custom roms, but themes and tethering are all you would need because ios is smooth and fast as hell, especially on the new iPhones and iPods.
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
I jail broke my 3g.......its not quite the same. Its still apple!!!
[EVO 4G General] nolageek:
That makes no sense. Just saying. I'm assuming you've rooted your EVO guess what - it's still android.
[EVO 4G General] wrxlvr:
We went to a girl's house to play cards over Thanksgiving break, and she ranted for like 10 minutes about how much she hated her iPhone. She loved my wife and I's Evos though.
[EVO 4G General] montecristo1:
Had a similar story... went to starbucks and sat between two appleheads using an ipad. I brought out my Samsung Q1 UMPC and people started coming over asking me what is that. When I took out the back stand, people began gathering asking how much it cost me and where can they get one. They were shock to find out that I had bought in 04, thinking that Apple "invented" the tablet, I showed them what the ipad didn't have. Eventually both ipad users packed their stuff and left after people started sitting around me and where annoying me with questions.

Samsung Q1 UMPC

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/03/samsung_q1.jpg
[EVO 4G General] vampir4997:
I know we are supposed to be comparing the who to iphone. I got a good one. I work at a college and of course we have an I.T. department. A new guy started about 6 months ago. I saw he had an iphone4. After got to know him a bit i started messing with him about it. Every time i found a new mod i had to go show off. Every time he checking out my phone like damn you can do that. So the college switched to verizon. Everybody usually gets blackberries, but a few guys (including my friend) got the droid 2. Now i get all thd newbie questions. Helped him root it. Have to sit down and hook him up. Sorry for the long story just wanted to share. Oh yea by the way, he was drooling all over my rooted hero!!!!!

Swyped from my superhero
[EVO 4G General] jasonziter:
It makes all sorts of sense.

Apples "protected media experience" (music, vid, etc.) sucks. You wanna use it on something other than appleware.......im talking portable and not laptop......sure you can, but its a pain in the ass....convert to mp3. Find the folder......and guess what ? No drag and drop outside itunes( which, by the way is the worst player/organizer ever).

So.....ya.....rooted or not, an android can drag and drop OUT OF THE BOX to any system.....apple, windows, or linux.....try that with an apple to something other than an apple/mac(vid, music, or files) without some lengthy process.

Thats the difference.

My first computers were apple (apple 2+, 2GS) and thankfully pc came along. The iphone is no different. Thankfully Android came along.
[EVO 4G General] oohoy:
dont tell me. that hot chick ended up sleeping with evo and kicked u outta her place ?