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[General Questions and Answers] Chabsin:
I have been using K9 to access four email accounts, all using push/imap (three of them using gmail/google apps).

I receive about 80 emails a day. Two of the accounts are far more active than the other two.

1. My accounts are all set to push, with polling off. Is that the proper setting for my situation?

2. Right now there is almost always a lag of several seconds when moving back from viewing a message to the unified folder. Is there a setting I can change which will help that?

3. Would battery performance be better if I had all my email forward to different folders on one account, with different identities to make sure I'm replying "from" the correct address?

Thanks in advance to those who respond.

(Phone is a Samsung Epic running 2.1).
[Desire Themes and Apps] boojay:
I'm finding there are aspects of both that I like:

Ex. Launcher Pro's dock bar, icons, and ULTRA smooth scrolling

Ex. ADW Launcher's hidden notification bar, but can be accessed by flicking downwards anywhere on the screen, and flicking the dock bar upwards to reveal more icons hidden below

If there is a way to customize which settings I like from each launcher or if such an app already exists, can someone point me in the right direction?
[Desire Themes and Apps] K900:
Never seen such a launcher. You can build your own, Android's open source so...
[Desire Themes and Apps] boojay:
Hah! I know nothing about programming. It would take me a while to learn on my own. I was hoping something was already in place, but I'm sure someone will figure it out someday.
[Desire Themes and Apps] GANJDROID:
You never know. You could take to it quickly, only one way to find out... ;)

But no, there is.t an ADW pro yet. But Ander has hinted a lot that he'll release one :D
[Desire Themes and Apps] boojay:
If I didn't have so many other "obsessions" that currently keep me occupied, I'd definitely give it a shot, but as it is, unless I can fully commit myself to learning something new, it would be too laborious, and hence not as enjoyable, just for the sake of experimentation. For now, anything I learn about Android and computer programming in general is merely in passing and if I happen to create something from the bits and pieces I'm picking up as I go along, it will be the unintended result of that process.

Let's hope he does! I hear Launcher Pro's going through an overhaul as well so that's pretty exciting!
[myTouch 4G General] Alankrut:
Im currently using a MyTouch 4G and my return period is about to end. On Dec 3. So i can't keep one and wait for the other. :mad:

Should i return it for a Nexus S, which is said to release on Dec 6, or should i keep it.

For this post im assuming the rumors of the Orion processor are true

I bet many of you have this question in mind,

A RAM-filled, Expresso Machine

-OR-

A Dual-Core, Stock God

The main reason im considering comparing the two is because the MyTouch has a very nice build quality, and the pics of the Nexus S suggest that it is a plasticy feel.

Some things i will lay out for you

Screen (Quality & Size)

Nexus > MyTouch

Overall Feel

Nexus < MyTouch

I would appreciate some advice, and thx in advanced

PS: Im waiting to root till i have made my decision
[myTouch 4G General] agentaaron:
C.

put in a little O/T at work and have them both ;)
[myTouch 4G General] Alankrut:
If only i could

btw im a student, so studies first, then work
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
Based on the rumors, the Nexus S appears to be very similar to a Samsung Vibrant, except for the dual-core processor and vanilla Android. As a prior Vibrant owner (we all know about the Galaxy S fiasco), I won't be purchasing any more Samsung phones, regardless of what their specs are rumored to be. HTC, on the other hand, definitely makes solid phones. Even Motorola has produced some impressive offerings over the course of the year (Droid X, Droid 2).

If you're really considering the Nexus S, I highly suggest considering Samsung's reputation and basing your decision on their past missteps. After the disaster with Behold II and Galaxy S, what's to say they won't release another lemon?
[myTouch 4G General] Alankrut:
Thx for this informative post.

This really is one thing i should consider
[myTouch 4G General] splat matt:
I like the MT4G, but it seems to be lacking dev support. I was not happy with the vibrant (lag, gps, battery life, etc.) therefore I have mixed feelings regarding the nexus s just and a little weary because samsung is making it.

MT4G (HTC Glacier) using XDA app.
[myTouch 4G General] Alankrut:
The MyTouch 4G has great hardware, but lacking the awesome dev support
[myTouch 4G General] darkpaniel:
I'm currently in the same dilemma. I've got until wednesday to remorse my mytouch out. So far, I've been quite happy with the mytouch. I feel like I'd be happy keeping this phone, but I also feel like I'll always be thinking "what if"in the back of my mind.

Anyway, I keep reading that the nexus s will only be sold in stores like best buy.. I'm sure it's too early to tell, but does anyone have any ideas as to how the pricing for the nexus will work.
[myTouch 4G General] Jayrod1980:
I'm in the same boat but my remorse period starts tomorrow.

I love this phone but I've yet to get one without some kind of minor or major defect.

My g1 was perfect, but returned four vibrants and on my fourth my touch. Despite that I think this is a much better phone.

I wish the phone had more dev support, I remember the vibrant ramping up much faster.

The hardware in the sammy should be great, but the bad gps in the galaxy s line scares me. I actually like slcd better for everyday stuff. Next to the my touch, I can really see the blue hue on the samoled screen and the screen door text kills my eyes. Plus, though the blacks are the best, I hate having to have everything black themed to get any battery life on it.

I would say screw waiting on the nexus, but the thought of that amazing hardware paired with google dev support is hard to pass up. It's hard too believe that it will suck since it will be a dev phone. I missed the nexus 1 boat last time. Probably means android will finally be optimized for samsung s guts, instead of just htc, and sammy reduced to brute forcing for performance.

Another thing that makes me want it is that it will be the first of the next gen of phones if it truly has orion in it. From what I read about it, might make tegra 2 obsolete before it comes out.
[myTouch 4G General] Alankrut:
i have had used a nexus one and that was the only reason i was comparing the nexus s. But ya like all of you have said earlier, samsung cant make 100% solid devices, but the quality of HTC devices r worth trusting
[myTouch 4G General] Zoltair Wright:
For me, it's all about connectivity... if the Nexus S doesn't have HSPA+, I'm keeping the MT4G.
[myTouch 4G General] itmustbejj:
Even if the no HSPA+ radio is true, I honestly don't see that being a deal-breaker. I live in an HSPA+ area and I average about 2.5-3mbps which is the exact same as a non HSPA+ T-Mo phone in the same area. The only difference is the non HSPA+ phones won't go above 7.2 mbps but so far neither can I so that's a non-issue for me.

Coming from an Evo, I agree with the comments about the dev scene being scarcer than other phones (but the few we do have are really stepping up).

I am taking the stance that I am keeping my MT4G thru remorse, and waiting to see what people's response to the Nexus S after its out for a couple weeks is. At that point I can still ebay/craigslist my MT4G for most of what it's worth right now anyway and get the Nexus S if it ends up being the end all be all.

At this point I would rather know I have a reliable, awesome phone that might be a tad light on the dev side than a potentially big samsung flop phone.
[myTouch 4G General] Dawgneck:
Ditto.

I love this phone! Had the G1, skipped the G2 for this (wanted front cam).

I LOVE the build of this phone and hopefully the dev will come soon.

I think I'm going to stick with the MT4G.
[myTouch 4G General] lisap006:
I loved my nexus one!!!!! but i love my MT4G better cause of the front facing camara...but i did like the look and feel of the my samsung vibrant....so i just might have to go with the Nexus S.
[myTouch 4G General] Kienz:
Something to consider:

With all of the purported hardware improvements, and state-of-the-art inclusions, haven't they still seen fit to omit an led for notifications, and a trackball/track pad, for navigating through text and so forth?

It would be a shame if you had a Ferrari of a phone, that had to rely on NoLED to let you know when you had a missed call or text.

Just my .02
[myTouch 4G General] mgymnop:
The Mytouch 4G is an excellent piece of hardware. I have good reception, no problems with the GPS, the screen is very responsive and the battery life is amazing. I could care less about Gingerbread too. What do you want with the newest Android version when your phone may have severe hardware flaws. I don't trust Samsung neither their hardware nor their software. I had an HTC N1 the newest android version couldn't help covering the several hardware flaws this device had. I am glad that I found a good piece of hardware.
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
Mine (MT4) is on the way and I am supposed to receive it in 2 days.

I go for MT4 this time because I need the trackpad and wifi calling, and I may get NS 3 months later.
[myTouch 4G General] c_licious:
It looks like the GPS issues were addressed:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/28/samsung-nexus-s-reappears-at-the-fcc-with-a-pair-of-new-antennas/

I think the Nexus S has enough potential that I would wait to see the end result before committing to the MT4G (or any other phone for that matter). You have to remember that Google is probably closely involved in the project which may result in more quality control than usual (see antenna replacement for example). I'm also intrigued by the Near Field Communication chip. If the Nexus S ends up living up to it's hype the dev support will probably be awesome. If it doesn't you can always go back to your phone of choice.

I ended up returning my MT4G before the end of my remorse period (which is 30 days if you buy it full price from a t-mobile store and not online). For those who can't go back to your old phones just remember that BestBuy and RadioShack both have 30 day return policies with no restocking fees ;)
[myTouch 4G General] rjhay22:
I will most likely get the Nexus S even though I've had the worse experience with Sammy and the Vibrant, simply because I cant say no to the 2nd generation, of the best phone ever made running on dual core. :)

I just ordered the MyTouch 4g today though, while I wait for reviews on the Nexus. I just had enough of this not so very MOD/DEV friendly phone they call the Vibrant. aka (My Piece of Shyet Phone) lol

Although I love the SAMOLED, the size, camera, and the look of the Vibrant. The software side, the random freezes and the need for Lag and GPS fix (That never really worked) just made it a BIG disappointment.

I know it might be wishful thinking with Sammy being the maker of the Nexus S, but since it will be a Google flagship device, I could only hope for better support and quicker updates than the Galaxy S series.
[myTouch 4G General] wau808:
Maybe a little premature to assume this?
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
As some of you have mentioned, the dual core does sound appealing. However, having released two problematic devices in a row (Behold II and the Galaxy S), it's very difficult, if not impossible, to trust Samsung, regardless of Google's involvement. I tend to change phones every 12 months or so, so I'll wait until HTC or Motorola releases a dual core device. Yes, Motorola has had a couple of lemons in its lineup. However, its higher end offerings on Verizon are certainly impressive.

At this point, it's anything but Samsung.
[myTouch 4G General] Jayrod1980:
Well the lg star tegra phone has been spotted as well as the ps phone... Ns might be facing stuff competition with that styling... Kinda mad I bought the mt4g since there's no rom development and it looks like the last of this current gen phones...
[myTouch 4G General] mgymnop:
I have rather a stable and reliable last of this current generation phone than a new generation prototype that nobody really knows. I had a N1 that was ahead of its time and it had so many problems with the screen, antenna, battery life and overheating etc. that I am not looking forward to jump on the next generation first edition android phones. Everybody is talking about dual core processor...nice but I don't need it at the moment. I am not 18 and use my phone mainly as playstation. Can't wait to see how the dual core phones behave in reality regarding battery life and overheating.
[myTouch 4G General] Kienz:
What have I assumed? That statement clearly was supposition. Furthermore, if there is no notification LED, as appears to be the case, then how would notifications of missed calls, texts, emails, etc. be any different than that of the Vibrant; which, incidentally, had to rely on 3rd-party apps to flash the screen, or a few pixels on the screen, to notify users of missed calls.

Of course, they (and by "they", I mean myself as well) could always just turn the screen on ever so often, to check for any notifications. But that brings me back to my aforementioned supposition.
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
It certainly does seem that the MT4G is one of the last, if not THE last, phone of the current 1gHz generation. Although I am definitely curious to see what Q1 2011 brings, I agree with mgymnop on the fact that I'd rather wait until a few more next-gen options come out.

Someone on a different forum made a brilliant point - instead of concentrating so much on increasing speed and graphics capabilities, manufacturers should invest a bit more into R&D of batteries that will be able to support the next-gen hardware. The 1500mAh battery that was shipped with the Samsung Vibrant wasn't enough to even last a day of moderate use, due to the battery-eating SAMOLED display. Can you imagine how quickly a dual-core Nexus S will eat through a battery?

Since I'll probably hold on to the MT4G until next year's holiday season, I'm sure that some viable options will be available by then. Until then, I'm sticking with what I have.

***UPDATE: I just came across this video of the LG Star, an upcoming device referenced by Jayrod1980: http://www.gizmocrunch.com/mobile/4146-lg-star-android-iphone-4

From the front, it looks EXACTLY like the Samsung Vibrant, which looks almost identical to the iPhone 3Gs. In fact, even the UI looks identical to Samsung's TouchWiz 3.0. I guess originality is a waning trait, huh?
[myTouch 4G General] skinien:
So the mt4g DOES have a notification light?
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
It certainly does.
[myTouch 4G General] steven178s:
My opinion is that the Nexus S is going to be a great phone because it has a front camera that the vibrant didn't have along with a beautiful 4" Super Amoled 2, I went from a nexus to a vibrant and then to a mt4g and i think the nexus one was still better than the other two. But regardless im just going to wait and see if its good after its released.
[myTouch 4G General] c_licious:
Amen to that brotha. I think people make the mistake of trying to answer the question "which phone is going to be better, MT4G or Nexus S?". Unless you have a super reliable crystal ball there is really is no way of knowing at this point. Since most people are wondering if they should return their MT4G before the end of the remorse period the real question should be "is it worth it to check out the Nexus S before committing to a phone for the next 2 years?"

Based on the proposed specs, Google support, developer appeal, ginger bread, and new integrated technology, I think the Nexus S has the potential to be a better phone. That doesn't mean the phone WILL be better, but it means that it MAY be better. And since it's going to be quite different from the MT4G people will probably end up having a rather strong preference for one or the other and those who end up prefering the Nexus S may regret not having waited.

In the end you have nothing to loose by playing it save. If Samsung ends up messing up despite all the promised awesomeness you can always go back to the MT4G (which may even have gotten a bit cheaper at that point). If you can't live without a phone till then just get one from BestBuy with a 30 day remorse period. That should be plenty of time for the Nexus S to come out, if not there's always RadioShack ;)
[myTouch 4G General] sovereignty68:
I really don't like the design of S, it's looked too round and bulky... in other word 'fat' compare to vibrant, mt4g and nexus one. But so far I've only seen some blurry pictures of it, not in person, so I really can't be certain of it. If it looks sleek compare to mt4g and has HSPA+, then I will probably give it a shot.
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
MyTouch has more ram but I really don't like sense.
[myTouch 4G General] setzer715:
Do we know that it will even be released for T-Mobile network? Heck, it could be a CDMA Verizon phone, for worse, Sprints crap WiMax network.
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
According to the accidental leak on the Best Buy site, the Nexus S is indeed headed for T-Mobile.

http://gizmodo.com/5687491/best-buy-leaks-t+mobile-nexus-s-coming-holiday-season
[myTouch 4G General] tchamander:
Nexus s or mytouch 4g

What do you guys think nexus is coming out 12/16 should i jump ship and get the nexus s or just stick with the mytouch 4g so torn right now but sloop excited about gingerbread ever since froyo lol jk but it sure is some interesting times right now
[myTouch 4G General] corwest:
I think you should look around for the multi page thread already covering this.
[myTouch 4G General] ScottC:
Looking at the specs, the Nexus S lacks MicroSD, FM Radio, HSDPA+

MT4G lacks gyroscope, Gingerbread and 16GB internal

Personally, I'll stick with my MT4G - it just seems like the better device.
[myTouch 4G General] mgymnop:
The Nexus S lacks also a touch pad. Nothing wows me about the Nexus S. I stick with my MT4G. Without Gingerbread the Nexus S looks like an old Galaxy S device with front facing camera and flash.
[myTouch 4G General] Master_sk3:
Yea, id rather stick with the MT4G. Plus next year dual core smartphones are suppose to come out so i rather wait to see what those have to offer.
[myTouch 4G General] tchamander:
Lol galaxy s are considered old but yeah I guess I should just stick with my nexus one for gingerbread goodness and hopefully mytouch
[myTouch 4G General] tchamander:
4g will get gingerbread soon
[myTouch 4G General] matrod:
Here's Google's own comparison of the two

google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=t-mobile-mytouch-4g

NS has 0.2" more screen size, the cool curved screen, SAMOLED, the NFC chip and most importantly imo Gingerbread out of the box along with (probably) first shot at all future releases.

MT4G has FM radio, external storage, HSPA+ and, strikingly, 50% more ram (512 v 768MB). Everything else seems about similar. Once CM or some other AOSP rom comes out for it it'll be on par or better than the NS in most ways.
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
The S also does not have 720P video it appears, while The MT4G does.

From what I have seen today on the 2.3 new features, nothing really stood out. It looks like it might be more impressive on later device releases than on the NS.

As for the mt4g - I am hoping a better video app comes out (like Camera 360, etc. did for the still camera). I took side-by-side videos with a Panasonic still camera with 720p mode - not even close yet.
[myTouch 4G General] XfooYen:
Don't hold your breath. It'll be months.
[myTouch 4G General] kirkcody:
Ha ha ha to all the people who were or did jumpship for the samsung nexus less lmaooooooooooo....mt4g ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[myTouch 4G General] kirkcody:
Now its clear.....mt4g hands dowm.....lolllllllllll
[myTouch 4G General] rjhay22:
Here is the much awaited nexus s... Im a bit disappointed,l.

http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-one&phone=nexus-s
[myTouch 4G General] kgbkny:
Any word on whether the Nexus S comes with Samsung's "amazing" RFS system?

/sarcasm off
[myTouch 4G General] pack:
Everyone is saying they would get it but no sd card slot is a deal breaker... compared to the MT4G theres a lot more deal breakers than just that lol...

and its just an observation but I think the no sd card on google/phone is just a typo cus google/nexus spec's says it has one...

I don't know I just don't have any excitement about this one... I mean when the nexus one came out that was the phone of the year (and it was only January)... it set the bar for all other smart phones during 2010 (and it even seemed that it set the bar a lil too high until the mt4g came along) But looking at the nexus s... it sets no bar... its not gonna be a hard phone to beat all of 2011... its spec are the same as just another smart phone...

Which I guess this is where people who are excited about it will say "but gingerbread"... all I can say to that is... think back to froyo... eclair... donut... hell even cupcake... they all whipped around this forum being ported from phone to phone like a tornado

as I think back eclair was one everyones phone when 90% of them still didnt know how to spell it correctly (who remembers that **** lol)

Like I said its just my opinion but if the only reason people are gonna get this is for ginerbread... have you not learned anything from every other version release?
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Nexus has LESS RAM, OLDER PROCESSOR, NO SD SLOT AND NO HSPA+.

Keep your MT4G. I'm only remorsing mine because I really don't want to be in contract.
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
No memory card support really turned me off.
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Yeah I don't know wtf that's about...
[myTouch 4G General] raeef:
Normally things become better with time, I can't say that with the NS case. Even their videos seemed like the Iphone, introducing slightly modified features as new things, I am not amazed. So you are limited with 16 GB on board? I think Apple will drop the 16 GB by 2011 and the NS is just starting with 16GB. I really can't understand Google sometimes.

I have been using MT4G for few days now, I got it unlocked the only thing that makes the NS a better phone for me is that it's factory unlocked which makes it easier for me to get future updates when I leave to my country.
[myTouch 4G General] mythz:
i really like my MT4G, but its still within 1 month grace period with T-Mo (so im in the same boat as you OP)

Unfortunately, the Nexus-S doesn't have all the cutting edge specs that I thought it would at this time of year, and that means I will probably be sticking with my MT4G (which i love btw)

The dealbreakers for me (as others have said already)

-No HSPA+ (But not that big of a deal, since I live in SF and only get 2.5-3mbps anyway)

-Lack of microSD card (But possibly wont be a big deal i think 16GB on board is pretty sufficient)

-Samsung

I like the sleek look of the Nexus S though over the MT4G, the MT4G is pretty nice too but I really think they could have done better with the front speaker design.
[myTouch 4G General] Alankrut:
Hey, OP here.

Thanks for all ur help guys

Im keeping my mt4g :)

BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THIS THREAD SHOULD JUST BE ABANDONED, u guys r bringing up some really good points, keep it going

BTW im, just like many others, disappointed by the Nexus S.

U guys remeber when the nexus came out, the issues that people could easily pick out, what fixed/lessened them? ROOTING

Just rooted my myTouch 4g, and its all very good.

forget the Nexus S,

i have a phone that has 768 MBs RAM, 1.7 GHz, and HSPA+ (check out my speeds in the picture below)