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[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
According to the thread on rooting using the "rage" method :

Now I don't know what the basis of that is, but I just wonder if that's what has happened in this case ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] setspeed:
Is it safe to reset without unrooting, and while I am still S-OFF?

Or should I unroot first (using Visionary)?
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
It should be safe, yes. No idea if you lose root or not when you factory reset, I presume you do ? I recommend the rage method of rooting if you need to do it again, there are only a few steps to do and it seems to be pretty reliable.
[G2 and Desire Z General] setspeed:
OK, I've reset my phone, and it appears my network connection is working again.

I've lost root, but I'm still S-OFF

You reckon I should try the rage method of rooting? Problem is, I'm no good with ADB :-(

Can it all be done by transferring files to the phone with file manager, then terminal emulator? I may be a bit thick but I'm just not sure with the whole "pushiing" files to my phone...
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Good that you've got the data connection back. That makes sense that it would keep S-OFF, because that's in your HBOOT, and I wouldn't expect factory reset to touch that.

adb is easy, what is your concern there ? Those commands to push files to your phone are simply copying them via adb. I guess there's no reason you can't copy the files some other way though and then run the stuff through terminal emulator (e.g doing the chmod via the terminal emulator) ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] setspeed:
I dunno, I'm just not confident with adb - I don't understand it. I might have a look and give it a bash...
[G2 and Desire Z General] setspeed:
Weirdness. I thought I'd give Visionary one more shot since it's so easy, and it appears that I now have root again, plus my network connection is working.

I don't know what the difference is this time round, as I followed the exact same steps I did the first time.

Anyway, I'm happy! Thanks for your help guys :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Great news ! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddotpatel:
.... so what Stevie said about corruption issues may well be true, Visionary doesn't seem consistent does it? I might restore to stock and give Rage a try now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] setspeed:
Uh oh - trouble in paradise... My network connection has gone again :-(

Goddamn phone!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] setspeed:
I'm thinking maybe it's a problem with one of my apps, because it was fine immediately after rooting this time round. Then I installed all my apps, and noticed I then had a problem. I'm going to uninstall everything and see if I can isolate the problem that way.
[G2 and Desire Z General] setspeed:
I am officially a "ri-tard". My problem was that I had installed DroidWall without applying any whitelist.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddotpatel:
Ha,... too funny man!
[General Questions and Answers] symanuk:
I have just done a search for "XFJP7" and a list came up with no reffrence to XFJP7.

The first result was: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=817703

I did a search in that thread for "XFJP7" and nothing was found.

If this site wants users to search the threads for answers then you need to fix your searching.....:(:(:(:(

You also need to make it easer to find threads users posted in......:confused::confused::confused:
[General Questions and Answers] timmymarsh:
search

hi,

Well me search bought this up :http://www.google.com/cse?q=XFJP7&s...ub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1 with quite a few results.

Not being sarcastic here, but did you ever think to broaden your search field a little to get more results. for example roms, slowdowns, fixs etc?

THe information is out there, you just need to have a little patience and know how to search!

Cheers.
[HD2 General] kanej2006:
I have had my HTC HD2 for around 5-6 months now. Though I'm happy with it and it has exceeded my expectations, I was thinking of upgrading it to WM7 when it's finally ported for the HD2.

What I would love to know is if the HD2 indeed had WM7 ported for it, would it run the SAME as it would on HTC HD7?

Reason I ask this is because I was planning on selling my HD2 and get the HD7.

However, both phones have the SAME screen size, same 1ghz processor, same ram & same 5mp camera, the HD7 only being 720p.

Why should I sell my old HD2 to buy the new one which is the SAME spec?

That is why I was asking if WM7 was ported onto the HD2, would it:

- Run as quick?

- Responsive, fast & smooth

- If it really will be ported, when can we expect the first rom or when should it be made for HD2
[HD2 General] baybenbey:
I am sure sooner or later wp7 will be cracked and ported for HD2. So we will have the same device with HD7 except the looks. Also we have some more hard buttons as an extra :p
[HD2 General] conantroutman:
Its not the same.....

It might be a very similar spec but the actual components will differ.

No ported OS will ever run as smoothly as it would on its intended device....

If you want a dedicated WP7 then you'll have to get one not wait for a port.
[HD2 General] Imperator Nick:
The fact that it is a user-made port, most likely running off SD card will mean it may be a little more sluggish than something designed natively for, and run natively on, a different device.

That's assuming the problems using Live services are overcome too
[HD2 General] kanej2006:
Doh that's what I thought!

Well I hope at least if a port does take place, it will perform almost as good as it does on the HD7, but we have to wait and see first when one is made and how it performs.
[HD2 General] dazza9075:
the camera is capable of 720p it lacks drivers
[HD2 General] Wil Badger:
From my understanding as of right now. The phone will boot into WP7 but it will not have any live application functionality. Meaning the live hubs will not work so no it will not work just like a HD7.
[HD2 General] smeddy:
I personally cannot understand the hardware choices they made for WP7. They are all the same spec as the HD2, and personally I'm not shelling out $500ish for the equivalent of a Software upgrade. I'd get all your use out of the HD2 first and wait for the next Hardware generation, unless WP7 really is a big deal for you.

Personally, as a big WinMob fan, I'm now running Android on my HD2, and worryingly I might not come back to MS. Android is exceeding all my expectations, and with no upgrade path to WP7, it's beginning to win my heart, despite my slight mistrust of Google.

If WP7 does come to HD2, the big problem now does appear to be the use of Live Services. Maybe Microsoft may soon relent and sell genuine Licence Keys (there's no sign of that - it's just my wish), but until then you'll probably be locked out of them.
[HD2 General] asctony:
I have had many phones: MDA, Wing, Omnia I900, Iphone 3G and now the HTC HD2. I have Android on my HD2 and use it all the time. Only reboot back into WM every so often.

Why would I or anyone else want WM7? I can make my phone look like WM7, an iPhone, etc. Do looks really matter? Every OS has it advantages and disadvantages.

Android apps are plentiful, cheap and very good. Does WM7 have as many apps?

Do I loose a little (whatever) using Android on my HD2? If I do I don't know what.

Should I buy a new Android phone? What would I gain?

Lets be realistic. The phone companies just love to put out new phones with minor tweeks so us 'suckers' keep them in business. Where does it end?

Personally I can see buying new, if there is that much more bang for the buck. Otherwise, get the value out of what you have. In IT what you buy today is always a day behind what comes out tomorrow.

JMHO!
[HD2 General] anhyeuemmaimai:
i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.
[HD2 General] denyboy:
I accually hate WP7 interface and software. Really. This is my personal opinion.
[HD2 General] Pumpiron579:
I couldn't agree with you more.
[HD2 General] ike2903:
Cause of interest in wp7, I read many tests and user ratings and played with it a time. After all I would buy myself an iPhone( I hate it :D) instead of any wp7 phones. Its the same rubbish like iOS but for iPhone you can get more funny and useless apps :D. Also if you like a fast and smooth UI, WM6.5 or Android would be a better choice. wp7 will not allow to be really individual with your phone...all phones are the same hardware in other shells with same unchangeable UI. There are many more disadvantages...you should may inform yourself one more time.

But when you already know all of this there is no chance to help you ;)
[HD2 General] bradecrain:
How are people saying WinMo and Android have faster smoother UI. That is false
[HD2 General] kanej2006:
Thanks everyone for your input, views and opinions.

As some have said, htc just want us to shell out another $500 just to get wm7 which may or may not be worth it since it does have the same hardware as the current htc hd2 and as it's new, there is a lot less software/apps & with regards to compatability, many existing apps for windows mobile 6.5 will not work with wm7.

Since this is the case, maybe there is no point in even upgrading to wm7 or buying a wm7 phone...

Anyway my other phone is the HTC Desire HD running android 2.2 froyo so I have the best of both. :)
[HD2 General] projektk:
well ! when phone 7 will be ported to HD2 microsoft will release wino 8 lol!
[HD2 General] Samsunguy:
First of all everything the hd7 has the hd2 has the only major change from the devices is that they added a kickstand.

I for one think that if the hd7 has same hardware as hd2 then running wp7 on hd2 shouldn't really be a difference. In a matter of fact the hd2 runs android well compared to other android devices that were made to run it.
[HD2 General] AinsCrowbar:
OP, I think you should stay with the HD2. I'd rather have the ability to run four different operating systems (relatively well) than run a single system slightly better.
[HD2 General] zewill:
Indeed. As a matter of fact, i just recently bought an HD2. not full price, less than 300 euros for a brand new unusued unscratched device with 1 y warranty.

I knew very well that W7 was coming out, even that the HD7 was soon to be out. But its the same phone. I like having extra buttons (hate 100% touch phones.. i like to press something when it becomes unresponsive :D). I like Winmobile, even if people say its ****. I like my collection of CAB files.

I like HD2. I like 6.5.

i dont like the new presentation of the phone on W7.. plus the apps will be slow to launch etc etc. If u really wanna upgrade, do it in a years time, get ur phone 50% off :D
[HD2 General] kanej2006:
That's VERY true. I have indeed tried android on the hd2, it was responsive, quick & reliable.

When you see android running for the first time on your hd2, you smile and think to yourself ''how cool'' I got android on a phone meant to run windows.

Anyway, I will keep my hd2 for now...
[HD2 General] mlegal:
WM6.5

Hi Friends :)

Take a look on this and see what wm6.5 can do...

http://www.mobilepractices.com/

This applications run like WP7, why?

I think the major upgrade on the new microsoft system for mobiles are the zune jail

Microsoft wants to take control over all you do on the device..

But something can change part of this

http://www.chevronwp7.com/

Peace for all.
[HD2 General] ChrisTran206:
There are reasons as to why WP7 might be preferred that the people in this forum can't fathom. For me, the only reason why I would want WP7 ported is because of the Zune software and also the UI is much more user friendly than Android.

I for one agree that WP7 sacrifices more than you gain but the UI in WP7 is more user friendly compared to WM6.5 with Sense or Android.

The majority of people on this forum are more than capable of adapting the UI for their own comfort but the regular user is the kind of person who wants to pick up a phone and use it. They don't want to fiddle around installing enhancements and etc.

The majority of people I have let use an HD7 and my HD2 with WM and/or Android prefer the usability of the WP7 interface. That is what it really comes down to in a UI, how usable it is. To a consumer who can just pick up a WP7 phone and within a few minutes and use the phone and it's features, that is more than enough to sacrifice the ability to do more with other OS. That is exactly what made the iPhone so popular. The simplicity helped drive the device compared to other smartphones that were well beyond and more full-featured.

To those who say they don't see why WP7 would be preferred, you have to narrow down the core features that people would want in a phone. Then realize that making it super easy to get access and use those core features is better for the majority of users.
[HD2 General] conantroutman:
Its good to see there are people who actually think about things before they post instead of just jumping on the flame wagon.....

The op asked about how a wp7 port might perform and the majority of replies they have received have been nothing but irrelevant and/or ignorant personal opinions about the os.

You dont like wp7.......... we get it.
[HD2 General] bnlf:
android on my hd2 runs A LOT better than than on my friends nexus one. Smoother gfx and faster loadings. No bugs so far :P
[HD2 General] Aevum:
i dont get peoples facination with WP7,

windows mobile is a dying OS, development for it is dropping compared to android and iOS. the only thing keeping people on Windows mobile was binary and exchange compatability.

now android has exchange compatability and WP7 drops alot of the binary compatability of WM 5 and 6,

so whats the point ? they removed tons of features, they removed modding capability by issuing that windows phone genuine software cetification, they just concentrate on eye candy and BS, which is why the kin plataform failed so misrably. i´ve used my dads omnia II, and i cant believe its superior in hardware to my HD2, it runs atleast twice as slow, without the modding community WM phones are usless junk.
[HD2 General] neil_swann80:
Best answer to post.

Best reason to reconsider upgrading.
[HD2 General] conantroutman:
"Lies make baby jesus cry" - Rod/Todd Flanders

:p
[HD2 General] Aevum:
my HD2 running android works great.

if it wasnt for the hanging...
[HD2 General] MaskedMarauder:
The fact is that Win7 is for windows mobile fans and xbox players. The average Jo that hangs round these forums will not want a locked down device that they can not re-flash with a cooked ROM or multi-OS. That is why MS has made sure Zune is NOT backward compatable as that is the ONLY thing missing from WM 6.5 for the most of us.

I could have had a WP7 device last week, instead I chose a WM6.5 HD2. That now is running Energy ROM and Andriod.
[HD2 General] frostmore:
i have had a bad user experience with winmo 6.5 and frankly their lack of support for upgrading to winmo 7 kinda turned me off from ever supporting windoze again....

imma using android on my hd2 and everyday its pleasing me in ways winmo can only dream off.and with all the apps available,i see no reason to change to hd7....which btw does not give me the option to upgrade me memory if the need ever arises.and that is also the biggest reason that turned me away from iphone as well.

the specs on hd7 and hd2 isn't that far off and we are talking about a phone that was released almost a year ago.

if you want impressive hardware with equally impressive software,you might as well wait it out till the cows come home.no phone is pregect in itself.its up to the buyer to decide if this phone is for him/her and what he/she wants to do with it.

next gen dual core phones are coming out sometime next yr.impressive hardware but do we have a software impressive enough to bring out the sweetness these devices can churn out?
[HD2 General] Revhead:
I just bought an HD2.

I bought it specifically because it had WM which has thousands of apps available many of which I already have.

If you want WP7 for your HD2 try installing SPB Mobile Shell and then mskip's WP7 theme - you can even add "Mymetrolock" and change the start up boot screen and animation to WP7 style ones to complete the look.

I used to run mskip's theme on my previous i900.

You can't beat the ease and functionality of the WP7 interface especially on the HD2's bigger screen and especially if you have big fingers.

Most people wouldn't realise it's not WP7.

Try it and see.
[HD2 General] cliffordlee:
HD2 and HD7 are quite identical in therms of specs, but I seriously wonder who would actually want to use a WP7 phone when it gonna be just another uncustomisable iphone. You can't manage the filesystem and such. It takes power away from the power user if you get what I mean.
[HD2 General] sullitf:
I've seen a lot of people bashing the idea of wanting WP7, but I must say I'm interested in at least giving it a try. I hope they can get a fully functional version of WP7 working on the HD2 so I can give it a real try without having to give up Android.

I'm sure part of it has to do with the environment, XDA is an amazing board geared towards modifying and improving devices. It's only expected that a large majority here wouldn't want to bother with an OS that is locked down like WP7 is currently. That said, I am impressed with what Microsoft came up with and think it is an innovative design. I like the idea of keeping it as simplistic as possible, and while it bothers some people that the interface is label/word intensive, I think that makes it very easy to quickly get things done and know what's going on in the software.

That said, it's definitely missing some features that are important but I think with a few updates it will be a solid OS. Keep in mind the iPhone is a few generations deep at this point, and Android gets updated every few months so it's hard to compare the 1st release of WP7 to that of the current iPhone and Android software
[Desire HD General] anheuer:
Hi All,

I have searched the forum and there is a lot of info.

So much that its gets a little clouded.

I wanted to try out a new kernel and new rom.

But with all the terms and tools and options.

i am now a little lost.

What i cant figure out is..

If i want to use a different kernel.

What is the easiest (preferred non adb) way

What do i need,

and why.

and if i want to install a new rom,

What is the easiest (preferred non adb) way

what do i need

and why

i see things like h-boot, fastboot, clockwork, soff root ect ect.

Makes it all a bit confusing for me.

Remember it all to be a lot easier for windows mobile to flash a rom :P
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] euromusic:
I bought a HD2 with a broken touch screen, I ordered a replacement, put it in but it didn't work.

I soldered it and no connections touch eachother (tested with a multimeter).

do I have to close my HD2 completely before testing it out or something?

Jamy
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samsunguy:
Yea of course please tell me you didn't try it with the screen of if so you may of screwed it up more
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] euromusic:
The device was off when I replaced it if that is what you mean :) By closing it I meant putting it back together, but I tried that with no positive results.

So any solutions? :)
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samsunguy:
buy a new one or buy selling the parts you have or keep them and buy a new one.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] euromusic:
So what do you think the problem is?
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] euromusic:
Bump, does anybody have an idea on why it doesn't work? I really want to fix this phone so I can upgrade from a htc magic :)

Jamy
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ilikegirls:
Have you done this before? I mean replaceing the touch screen on a HD2? Did You follow all instructions?
[Wildfire General] l3b00:
Hello *,

I recently bought a HTC Wildfire from a friend who had his monthly subscription renewed (Vodafone), and having Vodafone unlock my phone would cost 50 euro.

I managed to root the device using Unrevoked, but I'm not sure if I understand how the unlocking process works. If I have root, that means I have full access to all the files in the device, including the system files, right?

Isn't then unlocking just editing one file with a hex editor? Can you guys help me understand what should I do in order to get this baby unlocked without having to pay for a code?
[Wildfire General] Mtl Evan:
I believe there is a way to unlock it by editing certain file info on your phone, but it is complicated.

If you do a search on google, you'll find dozens of unlocking services for much cheaper than 50euro. I used one a couple months ago that cost be 18pounds (approx. 25euro) and it worked perfectly and was unlocked in about 10 minutes. I found other services for about half that cost as well, but ultimately went with the more expensive one because it looked more trustworthy.
[Wildfire General] l3b00:
The thing is that unlocking services do not work for me, since Vodafone changed the original unlock codes on purpose, just to be the only source of unlock codes.

So, the only option for me is to do it myself, or have them do it.

I am comfortable with editing files on the phone, but I don't know which files need to be edited. I looked into the source code, but I got lost. :)

So, again, if anybody can point me to the right files to edit, please do so.

Thanks.
[Wildfire General] chickentikka1:
I sent an email to Vodafone and the sent me the NUC code via email all they asked is for me to top my phone up to 20 gbp and they would deduct it from my account, which its now been 20 days and they still haven't taken it. It took 5 days for the code though.
[Wildfire General] l3b00:
Thank you for your answers, but dealing with Vodafone is not what I am looking for. This is a hacking forum, right?

All I want is someone to tell me what files need to be edited. I helped a friend last weekend unlock a Samsung Galaxy S with instructions found on xda. However, I see that nobody posted instructions for the Wildfire.

I am sure that a lot of people are in my situation, and do not want to spend their money on unlock codes.

Thanks to all and please reply.
[Wildfire General] l3b00:
Come on, people. I can't believe nobody has an answer for this.
[Wildfire General] DoiX:
I'm kinda in the same position with you, i assume you are talking about vodafone romania (right?) i bought mine without a contract, but still it's locked on their network. Only way to get the unlock code is by asking them, but i don't want to get involved in that since i have a bad experience with their "unlocking" service :) or better said the time it takes for the simplest of tasks.
[Wildfire General] l3b00:
Yes that is correct. Somebody suggested a RUU but that only helps debranding the phone, which is not our case. Any other opinions? Anybody? I can't believe people are ignoring a fairly simple question.
[Wildfire General] PanGalactic:
I would guess that you run a higher risk of bricking your wildfire trying to hack the network unlock and therefore those in the know would be unwilling to share any info for risk of agrevation.

I Have not tried, have not seen any reports this will work for the wildfire and you try at your own risk, but I have seen reports for the desire that a debrand then OTA update without a Sim in the Phone will remove the Network Unlock. It should also be said however that you would run the risk of loosing root if the Update applied is then unrootable.
[Wildfire General] l3b00:
I'm not sure what is the reason for which nobody is sharing any info about unlocking the wildfire, but I assume a lot of people in the know own unlock sites. And that says it all. I am pretty disappointed...hopefully somebody will guide me through. Bricking the phone is a risk I am willing to take, I guess otherwise I would't be looking for solutions on this forum.