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[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
Thanks for all your hard work Chad, the Kernel's working great for me so far :)

Just a question to clarify things: if I don't use SetCPU, do I not get the advantages of the 1.136 OC and the Smartass governor? If that's the case, I may as well get it, since I'm trying to get as much extra battery as possible while keeping performance up.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ncwildcat:
It is either BFS or CFS...there is not a kernel without one or the other
[Droid Incredible Android Development] parkson:
Thanks for clearing that up. I will note that with this new kernel I am using setcpu to max oc with min set to 245 and smart ass gov. I noticed other users reported problems with setcpu so I will try uninstalling it and seeing how it goes through lunch time tmrw. Much thanks for the efforts here
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mr4r4n:
i would also like to know how fast it runs without setcpu as id like to not have to install it
[Droid Incredible Android Development] omgi0wn:
The kernel runs at 998 mhz by default, but it is OC-able to 1.136 ghz.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] axemanmike:
no bfs or cfs

hmmmm cfs and bfs are two different ways of running linux... you have one or the other... i think... anyway in a lame yes lame man's terms cfs = the guy who made linux and liked it just fine... all programs get = resources.... then his buddy said no no no give one program as much as it wants then give it to the other programs = bfs so what does bfs stand for? look it up on gooogle :D I lauged

What is it?

BFS is the Brain **** Scheduler. It was designed to be forward looking only,

make the most of lower spec machines, and not scale to massive hardware. ie

it is a desktop orientated scheduler, with extremely low latencies for

excellent interactivity by design rather than "calculated", with rigid

fairness, nice priority distribution and extreme scalability within normal

load levels.

i just got done reading an 8 page article about what the heck bfs and cfs actually are... the reality of how it happened and how we are all now just throwing the term around for our phones... :D hmm I mean our little linux computers..:rolleyes:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jazi:
I have always had trouble with Kernels other than the .17 stock one.

Simply because I had huge lag with the Multi-touch keyboard, but this latest update runs like BUTTER.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
Doesn't setcpu not play nice with havs?? And if I use it with the later kernel should I just oc and not do anything else?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] radiohead14:
to those who have switched from the latest htc kernel.. how does this kernel compare? i love the fast charging and pretty good battery life i get from the htc kernel, so i'm on the fence on this.. battery life is most important to me.

also, would i still benefit from gpu+ if i don't play games on my phone? will this extra gpu performance have an effect of my battery life if i'm just doing regular phone activities?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jamesiaustin:
My temp went to 120 is this normal for this kernel?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] xShin:
I switched from the latest HTC stock kernel (2.6.32.17); however, I just made the switch about 2 hours or so ago, so I can't really report anything definite yet. I have noticed though that so far, animations have been somewhat smoother (most noticeably in the boot animation with the default Droid eye), and my battery seems to be better than before. I've used the phone with an Awake time of 1:51 and an Up time of 2:03 mainly to make voice calls, but also messing around with Quadrant Standard (which gave this kernel a ~1500 while it gave the stock one a ~1200) and going on the web. After all this, I'm currently at 75%, which I'm quite happy with - with the stock kernel, it would have been at around 75-80% left after just one hour of similar activity.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bast525:
Might be worth mentioning for anyone else upgrading from Chad's 11/26 kernel to the 11/28. I went into recovery, cleared cache and Dalvik, flashed to the 11/28 kernel, and rebooted. Phone booted to the lock screen and then froze. Rebooted again, and had the same result.

So I went back into recovery, wiped cache/Dalvik, flashed the stock .17 kernel, then booted, rebooted back to recovery wiped caches and flashed Chad's 11/28. Phone boots fine now and is running just as smooth as the 11/26.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ColdStoner:
This is an AWESOME kernel!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
How does the battery life of the new kernel hold up to the old one? Also I have a bunch of profiles set up for underclocking at low battery points should I have a screen off or no? I assume no but am paranoid
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
That's rather toasty I'd avoid doing that often.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] colonel187:
Am I understanding this right? The min is set to 460? Why ? No wonder my batt drops so fast when screen is on.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Gahh Its Lee:
Wouldn't setcpu be able to set the min to 245 anyway??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blue45:
pretty good kernel

I used setcpu for the first time, added a profile so it would max out at 1136 while charging. I was able to get the scores up to about 1382 still pretty fast in my book. Would love the 1500 mark but ill take what i can get. Still great kernel, took a few minutes to load on my redemptive 2.1.3 revolution with red theme 2.2. Works great. no problems yet. hopefully battery life will last.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] blue45:
never mind i set the setcpu to min 460 and and max to 1136 got quadrant score of 1436. pretty good!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] RegnierD:
Chug it before it has the chance to bother you, silly. :P

Also, I know for a fact OJ and eggs go GREAT together. Let me know if this helps at all. If it does, maybe Chad can throw some scrambled eggs in the kernel for an optimal OJ experience.

:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Working on rebasing things a bit. I think some of the issues may have arisen elsewhere. We'll see, going to test for a bit.

As for the OJ, you can adjust settings at /sys/devices/platform/curcial_oj

There's lots of settings but the easiest way is to increase normal_th and sensitivity will go down

just:

echo 4 > /sys/devices/platform/curcial_oj/normal_th

and replace 4 with whatever value you want. Higher value = less sensitive. You'll have to put it in a script in /etc/init.d if you want to set it on boot.

Oh, and it might help to take a microfiber cloth and try to clean it some. Dust on there can mess with it too.

Edit: OJ and eggs do go well together. Highly recommended A++++++
[Droid Incredible Android Development] OSully:
Am I the only one that thinks the optical joystick is too sensitive? I tried the stock cm 7 kernel was fine with the oj but of course it sucks compared to incredikernel in every other way

Sent from my dINC
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jacksonroh:
Perfect for me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
http://chad0989.dyndns.org/2.6.38.6-incredikernel-beta11.zip
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
Super smooth at 729mhz!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] miatamx:
locked and loaded. thanks chad.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jacksonroh:
Just incase anyone needed a reason to use this kernel ;)

Stock battery
[Droid Incredible Android Development] BarackMitzvah:
Wow, that's amazing, care to share settings?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
That kind of life is from not having the screen on alot.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] byrong:
Yea, that phone definitely spent most of the time in standby. Notice that cell standby and phone idle are the #2 and #3 power consumers respectively.

So yea, the setting you want to use to get that kind of battery life is the "don't use your phone" setting :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dirtsky:
checking out the beta 8 now. 2.36.7.6 is awesome so im assuming this one awesome as well
[Droid Incredible Android Development] usn.mustanger:
beta11 is causing my phone to do a "slow" boot loop. Meaning that, left alone, it'll reboot, the screen will stay on for the 1 minute I have it set for, then sleep, then, about 1.5-2 minutes later, it'll reboot. Could have to do with my kernel settings in CM Settings (CM7 Nightly #96).

I'm rolling back to 2.6.37.6 dated 4/19.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
beta 8 is kinda old. I just posted 11. Haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Testingchip:
11 is great so far. I even have it undervolted -100. The only issues i've ever really had was caused by me and I just backtrack all the tweaks and crap I do after flashing.

Thanks for your hard work even though some seem demanding and ungrateful and some just don't know wtf they're doing.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] usn.mustanger:
No, just a slight overclocking in CM settings. Not too worried about it though--I've had excellent results with all of your stable kernels, so I'm perfectly content to stick with the last stable until this one comes out of beta. You do great work. :cool:

And some make total asses out of themselves by making snap judgements about people they know nothing about. Just sayin'...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kenneu:
I could be mistaken, but I don't think he was talking about you... There was a guy a few days ago making some, ahem, demands....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] GooTz66:
Yeah Gorilla something *****ing and crying about all the betas. Said he was leaving but he lied!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jtj1825:
Lol I don't see that setting? Is that in SetCPU?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] PaulQ602:
Still on the novice end of all this...

Every time I flash the latest CM nightly, it replaces the kernel with the CM kernel, correct? So I need to reflash the incredikernel every time I flash a nightly?

1) Flash nightly

2) Flash kernel

Is that the routine everyone is going through?

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
More or less, yep.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] usn.mustanger:
Whoops, forgot to quote.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] usn.mustanger:
If that's the case, then I hope Testingchip will accept my humble apologies. The coincidental timing of his post right after my minor complaint led me to assume he was referring to me. Sorry!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] PaulQ602:
I GOT IT TO WORK! Jeez that took forever. I guess I'll have to watch this thread for new beta releases.

---

One other question.... I looked up "ingenious governor" and "smartass governor" on the web but I got a whole lot of hits about political figures!

Can someone nutshell what the difference is? I have it using the ingenious governor 225 mHz - 998 mHz via CM settings. Should I be a smartass instead?

I uninstalled SetCPU.

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] runagt2:
I don't know how you do it Chad, with every beta the phone runs smoother and more stable. I even underclocked b11 to 691200 Hz and it's running better than b10 was at 768 MHz. I'm undervolted as low as I can go. I've never had such great battery life. Also running this script on boot, I'm not sure how much it affects the battery:

#!/system/bin/sh

echo 61 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ingenious/sleep_scale_up_load
echo 128000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ingenious/awake_min_freq
echo 245000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ingenious/sleep_max_freq
echo 691200 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ingenious/sleep_wakeup_freq
echo 90 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ingenious/go_maxspeed_load
echo 128000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ingenious/ramp_up_step
echo 128000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ingenious/ramp_down_step
echo 70 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ingenious/scale_up_load
echo 49 > / sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ingenious/scale_down_load

Again, thanks for all the time you spend on these kernels!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
In a nutshell, it's a new governor that Chad made and he hasn't (and won't) release the details about it till his stable release. Don't use smartass unless Ingenius isn't working for you, and please post here about it so Chad can work out the bugs. Chad did say he plans on discontinuing smartass in his kernels.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kichard:
You got 'er.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] k_nivesout:
Wow, ingenious seems to be working really well on the latest beta. I typically experienced freezes/reboots when running apps like chuzzle or Netflix on ingenious but that seems to be gone now. Also gone is the typing lag i used to experience. Really nice. Will report back with any other issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
Beta 11 is where its at! 614mhz feels like 1ghz and been running Pandora for a 1/3 an hour. Battery dropped 2% on stock battery!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] sonypete:
Anyone know if the beta kernels is for sense or aosp roms? I'm running Cm7 so not sure if its safe to flash

- Pete
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
Aosp.......
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JohnKuczek:
Beta's are for AOSP, so CM7 is good to go.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Bravo Sir Chad

Once again chad you are proving to be one of the best kernal developers around. Beta 11 is *muah*. It is a perfect combination of the most delicate ice cream and most bad ass car. How you make it so that I can run at a lower cpu speed and still have a amazing response time is beyond me but god damit you do it. On top of that one of biggest complaints about any of these asop kernals is that while your charging the phone almost becomes unresponsive. With your latest betas this is not a issue at all. Thank you kernal god from above......All hail chad....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] live2die:
yes，so i dont flsah nightlies at all:D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] masully1984:
#11 has been good for me

CM7 nightly
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jamor414:
Im liking this better than Tiamat now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] kichard:
All is well.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] FramCire:
Chad,

It is bad enough that cm7 forces me to flash nightlies but now I have to flash betas for your kernel too! Please could you make a crappy kernel next time so I wont feel the need to flash every beta!

I did flash back to 4/19 due to freeze and reboot problems on beta 10. Since it hasn't happened since. I will try 11 today or tomorrow.

Thanks for your efforts. Hope the first paragraph read as a compliment not a complaint. It was meant to be a compliment.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] davwman:
I forsee zero issues with 11. Been running it at 614mhz for 6 hours and Pandora running for four of them all while browsing net and xda.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] csseale:
So far so great on 11 MadChad.

Beta 11

Cm nightly 96

5-06 radio

Amoled

Can't get a reboot. No fc. No lag. Running since release and running hard
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mamarley:
I just decided to try out Ingenious again. It is working great, but I am still seeing a small amount of hesitation or jerkiness in Opera Mobile and some jerks in LauncherPro as the app drawer decelerates after scrolling.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] HoochieCoo:
I had gone back to 4/19 because of beta 10 problems on my phone too.

I installed beta 11 last night and so far so good. Though I haven't used it much yet.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Want to play with the tunables and see where you like it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] morrisdan:
Very Snappy

Just wanted to say that I am running CM97 and Beta 11. Very fast and very stable. Keep it up. Thanks again for all your work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mamarley:
Sure, I will do that in a day or so once I get over this stupid salivary gland infection...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
That's no fun. Do you have a stone?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jinnai:
I'm probably the only person to have this happen, but beta10 was insanely stable for me. I installed beta11 and it's rebooted 6 times so far today. Most in the middle of using Google Navigation (not good to have happen.) Beta10 was probably the most stable my phone has been in months. I think it's battery related because my phone is always stable on anything until about 65% battery life, then most kernels make it reboot when doing anything serious. New batteries in the mail, but I was hoping after beta10's stability (never rebooted) I wouldn't have to rely on them.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
Have you tried raising the voltage a little and see if it helps? Since you say that most kernels make your phone reboot it makes me wonder if your phone is really sensitive to voltage changes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gonzlobo:
And I'm probably the only one that had this problem: my BT worked fine until I laid the phone on its back. :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] yolo2die:
I like this new beta 11, it flys even at max of 768. Report back later...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] chad0989:
BT should behave the same as it has been. I haven't changed anything in regards to it. If I try to use the HTC implementation it won't work at all. Going to try to tinker with it some more though.

Its very possible its the stack that CM uses also that's causing the problems. I hear its pretty crappy... they use it because it is more full featured (you can use peripherals and stuff with it, e.g. wiimote); but full featured means nothing if it works like crap with what most people will use it for. Haha.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] gonzlobo:
I fixed my FCs by cleaning the cache of bad apps. I no longer have the BT issues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] quantumroot:
Now that I can finally post in the dev section, I thought I'd share my experiences.

I was running B8 until today. B8 seemed to be doing pretty well for battery life for me. 2+ days of moderate use, moderate signal, and a few hours of voice calls and I was still at 45% (I have a 3500mAh battery). Too soon to comment on battery life for B11, but I will say this: with B11, it looks like I can leave the minimum at 128--when I was running 4/19 and one of the early betas, I had to set the minimum to 245, because on 128, a couple of calls never rang through--fortunately, I've got GV set to handle voicemail and I had gmail open. On B11, however, so far, so good. Didn't try 128 on B8. No voltage mods, or any such thing (though I'm contemplating it).

Since it looks like I'm in a relatively small set of users who use a2dp for music frequently, I guess I should report that I've only had time to try out 4 or 5 of the betas, but I can say for sure that I had no issues with B8 (on or off charger), and so far no issues with B11. I don't think I had any issues playing music with B6, but I couldn't run ingenious due to wake/haptic issues, so I don't imagine that's particularly helpful. I'm typically not streaming, however, but rather playing music off of my microsd card.

In any case, I want to add my thanks for all your hard work. 4/19 has been awesome for me, and I've no doubt that the next stable will be even better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] EnixLHQ:
Flashed beta 11last night and let it sit until the morning. Been on it all day with a mix of heavy and light use, and it's been great.

My Swype broke, though. Beta timed out, I think. Pretty sure it had nothing to do with the kernel.

Sent from my Incredible with Tapatalk.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mamarley:
The doctor said I probably did.

Also, just as a heads up, 2.6.39.1 and 2.6.38.8 are both out. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] PaulQ602:
I don't know if this is related to the kernel or CM7. Again, newbie here.

I am getting a LOT of lagging with the keyboard entry. I am running b11 and CM-97. I left my speed at 245-998 mHz (which I think is normal, not underclocked).

I am going to remove the incredikernel and see if it gets back to normal.

Hope that helps!

*EDIT* I uninstalled the kernel and my keyboard is back to normal. Not sure what's going wrong since everyone else is having such a good experience with the kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dyetheskin:
where did you see 2.6.39.1?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] neur0tk:
Omfgb is running great with beta 11 thanks Chad for yyour awesome work
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mamarley:
kernel.org
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Jinnai:
I'll give it a shot tomorrow raising the voltage. The problem is since I'm usually at -90 to -100 signal most of the day on the stock battery I only get about 6-8 hours and that's with your kernel. Before I was only getting 4 hours of decent use. Raising the voltage is going to make it even shorter... I think the battery has issues and I'm just waiting for the replacement.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] cn0421:
hey what do you guys have your cpu set at? and what governer are you guys using??
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Pons:
128/738 Ing
[Droid Incredible Android Development] PaulQ602:
I am thinking of using the stable version of incredikernel but I have a question.

The kernel in CM7 is v2.6.37.6 and so is the stable incredikernel. Does this mean they are the same thing? Does the incredikernel advantage still exist?

Thanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dmbtimmyb21:
And the kernel beast continues.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dmbtimmyb21:
Similar but not the same

No, they aren't the same, but most likely you will see similar performance and battery life. The stock slayher kernel in CM7 is very solid indeed. Chad just takes it to another level in an effort to max out capability of our irreplaceable droids. :cool:

"04/19/11

Patched up to 2.6.37.6

BFQ-v2-r1

Numerous driver updates (BMA150, OV8810, Atmel touch, gadget updates)

Rewritten panel driver

Many changes to improve waking when using low frequencies and smartass

Slightly more aggressive smartass scaling

Reduced OJ sensitivity slightly (in comparison to 3/18) to help minimize ghosting - GB only"
[Droid Incredible Android Development] TheWhiteBandito:
I had a ton of lag and had to restart multiple times today with beta 11, latest miui with 245/998 ingenious governor. I went back to stable kernel, but I just flashed beta 11 again and will try it out again tomorrow.

Edit: I was not undervolted or anything, just standard beta 11

Sent from my HTC Incredible
[Droid Incredible Android Development] usn.mustanger:
So after my last not-so-good experience with b11, I went back to the last stable, reset all of the cpu settings in cm7 settings to default, cleared all caches, including Dalvik, and reflashed b11. All is well now, running as-delivered speeds on Ingenious, and HOLY HELL is this thing nice! Fast and smooth as silk. Too soon to judge battery life right now, but I'm not too worried about that, as I'm never far from a charger and an outlet.

Awesome job, Chad! THANK YOU!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dmbtimmyb21:
Clearing Cache

Other than Dalvik, what caches are you clearing? And where do you do it? Thanks :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] PaulQ602:
Can you tell me what is considered default CPU settings in CM7? I want to make sure I have them right.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Probably 245 - 998, ondemand.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Testingchip:
Undervolted -100 128/883 Ingenious. No issues at all.