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[Droid Incredible Android Development] bensl84:
ok so 18 worked wonders. I did the true test wipe dav, charge to full bump charge wipe batt stats and then flash 18 then drain all the way down. I was at 6%, 25 hours on my 1750 batt with moderate use. amazing!!!

flashed 19 went to bed at 3:00(concert) then woke up at 11 checked email texted, one phone call down to 75% NOT amazing. i will try again. wondering if i need to reset batt stats and bump charge to full

you are coming out with these kernels too fast lol I don't have time to test them more than once before a new one comes out......

NOT a bad thing since these kernels are amazing. keep up the good work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
one thing i noticed is that 17 compared to 18 and 19 is that if i shut off the screen(even overnight), i lost maybe 1% of battery with 17. that would even be with browser and mail open. 18 and 19 i lose about 10-15%. overnight that is. i think overall 17 had the best battery life for me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] bilbobrian:
I flashed #19 this morning, did a little bit of surfing and checked email. Seemed to have dropped from 100%-59% in about 10 minutes. Flashed back to #18.

Keep up the good work!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
Hate to say it, but i went back to 17 for a while. Can't decide which is better, 17 or 18. 17 has better idle, but 18 was smoother and snappier. Need a happy medium:) :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] invisiblek:
I really need to figure out what the variables are. I charged to 100% last night around 10:00, 14.5 hours later I'm still at 88%. on #19
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
strange. that sounds nice. i always carry a fully charged spare battery in my pocket. however, i started at 17, then ran 18 and 19 but i still get better battery life than ever with this kernel. but i dont get near those hrs of use

i use my phone as a laptop sometimes. but then i have days where i hardly use it at all. guess thats why i like 17. cuz of idle battery savings
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
Been using 18 all day, still at 70%. This thing is awesome with cm. Run setcpu in the day at 1.07 oc, still smokin
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
i've got a feeling 20 is gonna be the nuts. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] donnyp1:
I think he should change his name to Mr. Kernel, LOL! I havent even had time to try 19 yet, may just stay with 18 till 20 comes out. Great work dude.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] J-Buck:
wow i wish i could get that. I'm hardly pulling 9 hours. Did you change around any other settings? And you are using Cyanogen 6.1 RC2 right?

And do you use 3G or Wifi? Also do u have background data enabled?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Invisiblek, great work with the kernels. I can't keep up!!! Only had 16 for about 5 days before I switched to #18 and there is already a #19 available. Awesome!!! :)

Hmmm. Went I used #16 I unplugged at 1am and when I woked up at 9am it was still at 99%. I think that is pretty good. Maybe you have more syncs on auto sync that I do. I only have my gmail account on auto (email, calendar, contacts, facebook pics).

Have you tried different brightness settings? I work in a cube, so when I'm at work I have the phone on dim and when I got out I set it to auto so I can actually read stuff on the sun. I never leave the brightness fixed to a specific brightness level. Do you receive a lot of e-mail on all 4 accounts?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Treken:
Installed and using #19 since yesterday. Seems to be doing good but a day isn't long enough to give a full report. I keep using it and post back again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
Just went back to 18. Gonna see how the idle battery does tonight. 17 is best at idle on battery life.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] J-Buck:
I keep the brightness on either 25 or 50. My accounts don't receive a lot of emails, but i send about 400 text a day.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trombone dixie:
I'm using #18 and have a few questions... Do people still use profiles on setCPU? If so what profiles and levels do you have set up? People using it on Ruby.. do you have the overclocking disabled in Ruby settings? I don't have the greatest understanding of all this stuff, so the help is greatly appreciated.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] vandykky:
I use setcpu and from what the thread said is the smartass governor automatically drops down clock speed with the screen off so profiles are unnecessary. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Testingchip:
I still use setcpu but mostly just to monitor. I Jack up speeds for playing some angry birds but no profiles and just use the smartass gov for everyday use.

Love this kernel.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] tylerwagler:
#19 working great with MIUI 12.11
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trombone dixie:
My battery life isn't doing as well as people are reporting when using #18.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
K. 18 definitely doesn't have the idle battery savings that 17 does. Even in airplane mode i lost 10% overnight. With 17 i would only lose 1-2% overnight.. are you still gonna continue this project? I sure hope so.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] upther:
I installed #19 yesterday. Took the phone off the charger this morning and right away was down to 97%. Two minutes later and I was at 93%. A couple minutes later I was down to 83% and this was without any use of my knowledge. There's a pretty good chance that something is running on my phone without my knowledge, but I don't have time to check it out now.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
I can't think of anything running in the background that would drain that much battery. I have a live wallpaper running. It's a Xmas tree with snow and lights. Terrible battery drainer. But it doesn't even suck battery that fast. I'm back to 18 now. I'm going k can come up with a cross between 17 and 18. :)

You need an app to see what is using all that battery. Or it could just be 19
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DS36:
Bump charge issue speedy bring looked at
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
What??????
[Droid Incredible Android Development] LeoD:
hmm, I must be the only one here having some positive results with #19. I'm running CM Nightlies #178 and put #19 on earlier last night. I charged my phone which was down to about 50%, Now what I did notice in my case was while charging my charging light went green but the phone was only showing about 90% (at least when I looked it was at 90%) I kept it on the charger and even with the light green it continued to charge to 100%. Once I hit 100% I took it off the charger and went to sleep. It is now 7 1/2 hours later and just dropped from 100% to 99%. I have checked engadget, caught up on a couple threads here and listened to a VM. Not alot but heck either this is a fluke or Invisiblek is onto something here. :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
K. Were you Gonna add wireless N to the kernel at some point?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trombone dixie:
Deleted.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] trombone dixie:
Agreed, I'm losing more battery life in sleep with this kernel than I was just using setCPU.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] GMK83:
Battery life well suffer more than it's worth. You won't realize a significant speed gain.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Treken:
#19 a no go. After a full charge my phone dropped to 60% in ten minutes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] invisiblek:
its not currently planned
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
Yeah. But sometimes it might be good to have
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DS36:
oh god i was half asleep when i wrote that LMAO

i meant its the bump charge issue and is already being looked at :p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] aauussttiinn88:
Lmaoooo I've so done that before and look back and re read and been like WTF was I saying
[Droid Incredible Android Development] br125:
Unplugged this morning on 19 and within fifteen minutes I was at 71%. back to 18.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
Oh. Now I get it. Lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
Me too. Lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DS36:
sleeping behind the wheel and behind the keyboard has to be a crime LOL

i better go check and see if i sent any texts :p
[Droid Incredible Android Development] megarek:
Had some real strange behavior with 19. I charged my phone overnight with the phone on. With the phone still plugged in, I was flashing some stuff in recovery (a theme), and when I rebooted, the phone said it was only charged to 53%. It started charging again.

I thought this was odd because it was plugged in all night. I rebooted the phone, and the phone reported "charged". I rebooted the phone again, and the phone reported "76%".

I rebooted a few more times, and the battery charge level was all over the place.

I do not think that 19 is draining more quickly, I think that the 19 kernel is not charging the battery completely. When the phone figures it out, it reports an accurate battery level dropping the percentage rapidly.

Back to 18 for now. Keep up the awesome work! I greatly appreciate your work for this community.

PS With these bump charge kernels, you and chad ask us to note how quickly the kernel drops from 100% to 90% to see if the fix is working. IMO, I think we should charge the phone with the phone on, then turn the phone off. We should time how long it take for the LED light to turn from red to green again. Currently, it takes about 20-30 mins to bump charge. I would think that with a proper bump charge fix, when the phone turns off, the LED would be green OR turn from red to green within seconds to few mins.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] seanzer:
Not all wireless N freqs are supported on the dinc..so most times it doesn't even work... definitely not worth it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
That makes no sense. Why would they do that?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mikeymop:
Wireless N is a marketing ploy. It sells the phone, so if they can get any implementation of it onto the phone they'll sell more

I've had this phenoma when rebooting off the charger, I'll reboot and my batter will go from ~76 to like ~48. It's a big drop off and I assumed it was an inaccuracy so I charged again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] LeoD:
I would really like to know just what I am doing that is so different, I am at 12 hours 9 minutes with 84% battery left. Unless this thing drops like a rock in the next few hours I find this odd to say the least.

CM nighties #178 with #19 :confused:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] wakeboard143:
It all depends on how you are charging. If left on the charger it will discharge. Quickly. If its charged and removed once full, it will discharge slowly. I haven't tried charging with the phone off but this is what I have found with 19. I charged last night then pulled it off at full then woke up and it was high 80s. Looking at 46 right now 12 hours later.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
After trying 17-19, 17 seems to work the best for me. Not sure why. In my case, I get the same speed and smoothness as the other two, but I get the best battery life with 17.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] LeoD:
Granted, I agree with all of the above, however I have never see the charging light go green at 90% before, continue to charge to 100% then leave it on while I slept for over 7 hours and still be at 100% before. Also in all the time I've had my phone sure I can charge to 100% and pull it off the charger and at times it might drop a bit slower but it has always dropped considerable unless I have bump charged it. Not this time though, totally different. almost 15 hours and at 74% with decent usage. Yes I have done this before and probably even better but always with bump charging it. All I can say is if this is it I hope it keeps happening.

What I do find odd though is how many others seem to be having pretty terrible results compared to this. I've seen one post of a drop from 100% to 40's in a short time and another a little less drastic but close, obviously something different going on there.

Thanks for the reply
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trombone dixie:
Does anyone know if Ruby comes with a kernel? I want to switch back to the kernel I had before #18. My battery is being eaten alive.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
That's surprising. These have been better than all the ones I have tried. I have the best battery savings with 17 though
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trombone dixie:
I know, it seems to be working for everyone but me.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] mp3sum:
Did you wipe the Dalvik Cache?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] J-Buck:
It's not working for me either and i wiped both of the cache's. Ever since switching to Cyanogenrom 6.1 R2 I've been getting terrible battery life and the kernels haven't helped me out at all. I think im just on my phone to much because i send about 200-300 text per day.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trombone dixie:
Wiped both caches before flashing it.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] Blindlabel:
Does anyone know if the USB Tethering is working for MIUI in the latest Kernal update? I know that it hasn't in the past.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] upther:
I'm back on 17 today and I'm seeing much better battery life than on 19. Seems to be the best for me so far.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] khanam:
where is the # 19 link please? can only see # 18 in the OP.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] raptir:
Honestly, I don't see much difference in battery life for any of them. 3G uses all my power.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] LeoD:
Invisiblek, whatever you did with this kernel it is certainly amazing me. I went about 19 hours till it dropped below 50% put it on the charger (phone ON) and I'm getting the same thing I got last night. Charges to 90% charging light goes green and continues to charge to 100%. If this goes like it did last night I dropped 1% at a time. I thought this was just a fluke when I seen this today but sure enough it is repeating itself again. So it is clear and I can give you an idea this 19 hours I did was not just having the phone sit idle. I was on the phone for at least a couple hours today, about 30 - 40 texts, and browsing around xda all day on and off. Pretty damn nice!!!

BTW, if you didn't see in my other posts I'm using your #19

Thanks for your hard work and I do hope this gives you some insight into this bump charging issue.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] LeoD:
Post #374 has the link
[Droid Incredible Android Development] khanam:
thanks vm

10 char
[Droid Incredible Android Development] egeorgia:
Wow! Lost 50% battery in half an hour on number 19. Ouch.

sent from my Incredible using Tapa Talk
[Droid Incredible Android Development] mrchambo:
10 + hours and still at 88% on #19, on MIUI 12.11

Can't wait for # 20...

jc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] invisiblek:
ok guys, and i mean everyone, not just singling you two out

we need to come up with some way to figure out why we are all over the board as far as battery life is going, i would say these are two of the more extreme cases in either direction

first, when you see a drop like 50% in a half hour, go and see what it was that was sucking all your battery life, please include that in your post (lets try to be more proactive in finding a solution rather than just reporting there is a problem with no details) for those of you who dont know how to check what is using your battery, hit menu > settings > about phone > battery use from your home screen

second, please include the rom and version of the rom you are running. this may or may not help, but it cant hurt to include it

third, include any overclocking/underclocking/setcpu profiles you are running

im going to be a busy boy this week, its finals week, so i may not get much of a chance to do anything about it until next week, but lets try and get some data compiled

in fact, lets do this:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmF2IwSBx7CTdGg2ZzJRa1YzbDVRUFU3d2lQN0FYWFE&hl=en

go there and enter your data, (let me know if the link doesnt work)

feel free to post multiple lines for different kernels, but please only one per kernel per person, and lets stay with #16 and up

EDIT: also, if someone else has any idea of other headings for the spreadsheet, feel free to have me add them or add them yourself
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fp99:
I think this is a great way to keep track of the issues that people are having using this kernel.

I have updated the spreadsheet with my information.

There are no issues from my end as of yet. Keep up the great work.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] :
Invisiblek, great idea on the spreadsheet. I hope our battery usage can help you solve the remaining "issues". I already wrote my info on the spreadsheet, only "issue" I noticed on my end is that the bump charge takes around 35min with CM6 #174. On the stock ROM (and kernel) it would only take 20min. But but...I'm getting about 36hrs of battery on light usage so I'm not complaining at all. Great job!!! :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Treken:
I'll try to give #19 another shot. Afaik, my phone was only idling when it had the massive battery drop. Nevertheless, I will look at the battery usage to determine if something was running if I get another massive battery drain.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ufvj217:
my bump charge on kernel 17 took about 45 minutes, but i also have the 2150 battery, so im sure that takes longer to bump charge than the stocker.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Rrrracer:
GREAT idea, surprised that nobody has done this before. I see your out-of-the-box thinking extends to more than just kernel building :-) THANKS for all your efforts, I no longer have to worry about making it through a day if I don't have a charger handy :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
how do i send it to you?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
k. is your name dan? personally, i dont use and dont like google. so let me know if you got the spreadsheet or not. feel free to pm me
[Droid Incredible Android Development] invisiblek:
actually, ill give credit to the idea to ejhart (hydra)

he made one when we were trying to figure out what sd cards worked best for rooting before unrevoked had gotten everything squared away

just go to the link, and input your info, you dont even need to log in to google for it

EDIT: also, dont erase anyone else's line, especially the first one
[Droid Incredible Android Development] invisiblek:
anyone having problems with crappy battery life, uninstall setcpu if you have it installed and see if that helps
[Droid Incredible Android Development] egeorgia:
My bad on the limited stats on my battery loss. Was getting ready for work and saw the loss in that amount of time.

Here was the details:

* Lost 50% in half an hour.

* Just put on 6.1 CM Stable that was posted yesterday.

* Put on #19 last night and it sat on the charger all night.

* Do not have set scpu overclocked. On Smart Ass mode.

I put on #17 after that loss and changed out batteries and now have only lost 12% in 3 1/2 hours. That is the only difference and am getting stellar battery life.

It wasn't intended to slam anyones work. Just reporting for your knowledge.

Thanks for all your work!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Rrrracer:
LOL someone put their name and ROM over my entry. You might want to put the link in the OP to get a little more traffic.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] larsrya8:
It's probably been done before, but abandoned. Spreadsheets aren't very useful when filled with anecdotal evidence. Just look at what is collected there now; not even remotely scientific. Any conclusions drawn from the data would be highly suspect.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
thats all? i did that. seems like i would have to submit it somehow
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hawkye:
I tried #19 yesterday and my battery tanked quick. I don't use setCPU at all. I left it on after a full night of charging and within 30mins it dropped 30%. That has never happened with the other Kernels. I went back to #18 and I am very happy with it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] trombone dixie:
Using #18 and my battery dropped 10% on a 3 minute phone call.

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[Droid Incredible Android Development] Treken:
Should I have set cpu installed? I thought that a kernel that's under volted and overclocked eliminates the need for set cpu. Anyways, I re-installed #19 and haven't had a problem since. The only thing I can think of is that the first time I installed #19 I was using miui 12.03, and now I'm using miui 12.11. Anyways, great job invisiblek!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] dccoh:
Cm stable and Invisi's #18

Im on the new Cm stable and Invisi's #18 and i havent charged for a couple days now with medium use. Needless to say I'm pretty happy. I didnt even bump charge when it came off the charger a few days ago (and i charged it while it was on).

I am using setcpu, but only to set my maximum to 691mhz and thats it. No screen off profiles, since when using smartass as a governor it will set the mix and max screen off to 245.

My phone wakes fine, and no lag when i have to answer a call (trackball wake is hit or miss though, Ive yet to find a kernel to make that work right). My phone is snappy, and I do pretty much everything from text, watch movies, listen to pandora, utilize 3g and wifi as needed, you name it. I even play Angry Birds with no problems, even with the phone underclocked to 691 (i used to be at just under 600 but kicked it up just to test).

I know alot are wondering why i would underclock since maybe there isnt a big difference in battery life? Eh, I like going from one charge to another like a camel :) I sometimes go up north to my fiancee's family for the weekend and forget my charger. Its nice knowing that i'll be ok if i have to.

Oh I just found this new app in the market "Screen Filter". It lacks functionality and a its lacks a widget, but it does allow you to turn the brightness on the screen even more than normal. Used it at the movies no problems. Only problem im having on the new CM stable is the bottom row of keys that light up, sometimes they light up for me, sometimes they don't.

Anyway, anyone considering this kernel should most definitely try it out. I'm much happier on my phone with it, and I appreciate all the dev's have done to bring this kernel to AOSP.

Happy Holidays too!

dc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] nikon_rh50:
Same thing happens to me BUT the key to this kernel is to not overcharge. As soon as it is full unplug it or just charge to almost full. If you keep charging after full charge it starts discharging.

Do this. Charge it to only 90's and see it work. Since yesterday I charged it every few hours back to 90's and never full charge. My experience is a steady drop. If you have to bump charge, turn the phone off.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] invisiblek:
ok, so andrew8806 made a better thing for gathering this data, if you have already entered your stuff into the spreadsheet i made, dont worry about doing it again here, ill do it for you :)

http://bit.ly/hPTeRK
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
talking on the phone has been the most noticeable battery killer for the dinc
[Droid Incredible Android Development] v941726:
funny how the LED turns green at 90%
[Droid Incredible Android Development] larsrya8:
CM has always done that. Or at least, 6.1 always has.