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[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
I would agree with you, but considering some have good tracks, some have bad tracks; there must be something that affects the GPS usability.

And, as I replied, A-Gps will have an effect if the signal is constantly lost and regain, as it is most likely the case in urban area, where the signal is known to bounce off of buildings or be disrupted by radio signals in the surroundings. I don't know how much you've tested any settings at all, but considering most of your answers consist in discrediting the whole A-Gps theories, I would assume “none”. So, your “theory” that it doesn’t affect anything at all is still a theory, just as OP’s or any of us.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pwhooftman:
I don't think so. We all would like to believe that the Samsung engineers are as involved as the XDA crowd is. Forget it. Why did it took months for Samsung to come up with their Froyo version? Look at it, what's are the extras that Samsung puts in Froyo that legitimate months of delay?

Samsung just sees this as a calculated risk:

- only 25% of the customers will use the GPS

- 25% of those will have used a GPS phone before and are able to compare

- 25% of those will bother

- 25% of those will look at forums like XDA

- 25% of those will rant on forums like XDA

So, 0,098 % of customers will have a problem, big deal. Samsung just doesn't bother. Maybe a few engineers do, but they are already working on the Galaxy S2, and we are blessed with people like the OP to help us out.

I have a Samsung Blue Ray Player also. The thing has a RJ-45 network socket. To this day, it's unable to find Windows Network shares in the network (you know those shares invented in the Windows For Workgroups era). So you can type in the IP adress, username and password manually (painstakingly with the remote) so it finds your shared media. But.., the engineers didn't bother to make the player SAVE that IP, username, passwords when you power off the Blue Ray Player.... That's the level of engineering at Samsung.

PS: my GPS works fine from the start. Fix in a few seconds, and just an occasional hop on a nearby road.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pwhooftman:
Are you serious? North and South, East and West have never been relevant in determining your GPS position....

Direction is based on the followed track between two or more determined GPS locations, not the poles.

Only a Compass can indicate North when stationary, a GPS device has to be moving (been moving) to indicate North, which it doesn't do based on poles but on the GPS locations it determined in the previous seconds.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xpcomputers:
A compass isn't involved in traditional plain GPS. Correct.

However, is it definitively proved that the compass doesn't interfere with GPS tracking on our phones, by adding another sensor feed in to the mix?

It probably doesn't have an affect, but are we absolutely sure?

Have people tried re-calibrating their compass and accelerometer, even just so we can dismiss them completely as being not part of the problem?

Mike
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrej.marinic:
if by recalibrating you mean running the sensorcalibutil_yamaha, then yes, i recalibrate it all the time, since the bloody thing gets screwed up so often.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MyGalaxy:
I just wondering why people keep asking question here rather than using discussion thread... Also people keep reporting bug here rather than using issue tracker...

@codeworkx: I think you should ignore any question here and push them to discuss there... at the link that you have post... BTW... thanks for your great works... :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] titooo7:
+100000000000

People, if you have questions, need any kind of help or need to discuss something not relevant for the devs: use the f*cking user thread!!! And do not report any bug here, do it through the issues list!!!

I wonder how can exist so many people that know how to write but not to understand what they read!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
You recently said your tracks were rubbish though. So sounds like nothing has been proved!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
No i didn't. I did say mytrack and Google map was bad and can't make a good track.

I still think that.

I still use the gps and it still spot on with the program i use.

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
But from the conversations I saw, you never actually proved that Mytracks was bad... And until that is proven, you can't really say "some phones are bad", as there is still a huge link missing in the chain of reasoning. Either way, I agree with the original posters information, except unsure whether we really need a large antenna to obtain good GPS, as there are plenty of tiny GPS devices out there doing a great job.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
Just Google and you will find that many do have problem with my track, even if gps works for them.

It just funny when all that have bad gps thinks that mytrack and Google map is 100% accurat.

If i did post a track that's not 100% correct then you are sure the gps is broken. Even if its working without any problem with other program.

That's way nobody can prove to you or other with bad gps that its working without any problem.

You still looking yourself blind on those program.

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
You'll also see plenty of good Mytracks as well though, which disproves your theory.. Nobody is asking for 100% accurate tracks. But the reality is, without trackerbooster, it's inconsistent performance (on seemingly all tracking programs, not only Mytracks as you claim). At the very least, there is obviously something wrong with the software. We don't clearly fully understand the problem, and telling others that Mytracks is the problem isn't helping (because t here are nice mytracks out there), and with trackerbooster turned on, they do become at least average quality.

But we shouldn't have to rely on trackerbooster....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] waz000000:
Im also sick of seeing self important pompus morons policing threads when they dont cobtribute useful information themselves. Take a leaf out of your own book dont post simple fkin idiots! Now ive been forced to become one of these moronic fan bum boys.

And i dont care if im banned for my comments after years on this site it seems its full of kids kissing devs arses bigging themselves up with useless crap.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] m_pascal:
It seems not like stupid questions but a recurrent report of problems dependent on the change of SD paths.

I'll try to explain one more time because it seems I was not clear enough last time.

- It seems there are no reason why the name of internal sd has changed in emmc and not in something like "int_sd" or "internal_sd". Anyhow I don't explain myself why to change the only sd-path compatible with original Android path.

- It seems there are no reason why the name of external sd has changed in the exact name of internal one. It is as if you change the Stop signs on all the roads with a No Parking ones and vice versa. From now you have to consider the Stop sign as it is a No Parking sign and you have to consider the No Parking sign as it is a Stop one. If you remember the new rule easy you'll drive safe, otherwise you'll have some big problem in the future. I'm sorry but it seem like a bad joke.

For external SD it don't care what will be the path (but please give a meaningful name) but for internal SD I think the path have not to be different from the expected original name.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] darkoroje:
No it doesn't. By the way I have used Google Navigation on Desire and Nexus one and it works flawlessly so all this talk about google maps being a problem is not correct
[Galaxy S I9000 General] webstar1:
Guys please discuss in the discussion area, AERY WANTS TO KEEP THIS THREAD CLEAN!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
This is sgs. And there is alot of people that has problem with Google map on different phone.

Can you explain my test with Google map and copilot?

Same place and almost same time.

No change in settings and phone was on the same place.

Google map did work very bad and copilot did work flawless.

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] SGSChris:
DamianGTO - I don't know why you always repeat the same arguments in all GPS-threads?

It appears that you are under the illusion that the problem is mainly on of Google maps versus dedicated navigation apps? Correct me if this is a false perception.

I am comparing at the moment Google maps (using my tracks), NDrive and iGo.

Google maps - is embarassingly bad.

NDrive - I am "out of road" during walking in Barcelona 40% of the time. It takes 10 secs to notice that I have stopped at an intersection when I use it in a bus. iGo puts me in the wrong street about 30% of the time and particularly after turns.

Both apps have terrible problems following my turns and find it hard to keep me on the street (although they supposedly keep you on roads/streets).

I have copilot but only US maps so can not test it.

My setup: Doc 7.6.2 ROM - reflashed JM9 GPS. Settings following OP here. I leave GPS Status on and saw that I was fixed to 6-8 Sats most of the time. Flightmode with Wireless on or off - no noticable differences. My SGS is from May 2010 (battery).

I tested in parallel mine and my wife's SGS (Sep 2010) - exact same settings,(could only use my tracks for that). Results are slightly better with her phone - not sure this is significant. here are the recorded tracks:

My short track: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...41.400256,2.153975&spn=0.004748,0.009645&z=17

Her short track: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...489431182843270390.00049593dd01138765db3&z=16
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
In which phones?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
And why do you think people doesn't had used those programs before saying GPS is broken?

And how Navigon, coPilot et al can help with programs like Layar, Google Street View and others.

Not only on car navigation is used the GPS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
Explain why on other phones they work flawlesly
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
Well duh, that just suggests their phones have dodgy GPS too, or there is a bug in their GPS drivers. Because some phones are apparently awesome with google Nav! So we know it CAN work well. Seriously, it's like talking with the expert witness guy.

I can explain your phenomena though. I recall seeing in the past a claim that you travelled over 600km with your GPS, and there were no problems. By now you must have travelled over 700km. I recall seeing you live in Africa actually, but does Google Navigation even work there? Statistically, I find it hard to believe that any GPS is THAT flawless. At the very least at least 1 or 2 minor road changes would have happened then.. But strangely, it's 100% perfect?

Also, you are aware of how expensive these 3rd party GPS navigation apps are correct? In fact, most of them cost at least 1/3 the cost of a standalone unit. Since there is a reasonable expectation that Google Nav on this device should be quite usable, then perhaps we should all receive a $50 refund, to pay for a 3rd party nav app. Or, they should fix the bug in the drivers causing problems in the first place.

Also, what industry do you actually work in Damian. I only ask because I'm starting to get a tad suspicious..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
Don't waste the time with him
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
:D:D:D:D

You can't be real
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
If you don't do what you should do i say its your own foult. Why keep a defective sgs and complain, instead for fixing it the way you shall do???

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
Lol. Try an other gps to..

You don't prove anything.

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
You like trolling, don't you?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
WTF. He tests a bluetooth GPS, gets better results on the Google apps, and you think his logic is flawed? When you say you got paid for development work, I suspect it is by a mate, for website development.

If you post a track gtw, that will end it. That will prove with authority that Google apps is fine, and if DamianGTO is permitted to continue trolling, we should all pack up and leave.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] darkoroje:
Just ignore him
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
Is the best thing one can do, it's only a little poor ridiculous troll
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
Done.. And if he continues I'll set my signature to warn others to ignore him.

One final note Damian, you are changing your story now. You said performance in Google apps was rubbish, but now your saying your GPS is fine (and totally ignoring google apps are faulty). Well, we know that Google apps works fine with other GPS's, so that clearly proves that the reason you are getting rubbish tracks must be the internal GPS... Unless you can grab a bluetooth GPS and prove Google mytracks is broken... Keep talking though and you may be tomorrow's "daily WTF" feature article :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] XLR8BG:
@AllGamer

A little correction.

The class represents the minimum, so Class 4 means a minimum of 4MB/s, but not the max. I have two Kingston Class 4 cards, they both achieve 8,5MB/s.

PS It's not 4Mb/s, it's 4MB/s.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kangal:
The SD Association should change their rules on the whole Class thing.

Each Class should have a minimum and an average write speed, also an average read (or a random access) speed (which is important!)

Class 2 for instance should be a minimum of 2Mb/sec and average of 4Mb/sec write, 3Mb/sec minimum read.

Class 4 for instance should be a minimum of 4Mb/sec and average of 8Mb/sec write, 8Mb/sec minimum read.

Class 6 for instance should be a minimum of 6Mb/sec and average of 12Mb/sec write, 12Mb/sec minimum read.

This way, we know more of what we're buying and really aren't fooled as much !
[Galaxy S I9000 General] yc1437:
+1, the froyo gps doesn't perform well :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dnsp:
t

Sorry, don't want by any means to be rude but this thread is not to rant about the GPS, it's to change one setting (Hz) only.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bec07:
Congrats HTC fanboy (the mod who posted this on the main page and the manner he did it in) for embarrassing Android for the rest of us.

GPS on galaxy S is decent. Not excellent but fine. If the first released firmware had been a froyo nobody would have ever noticed there was an issue.

Now go lick on your sub-par and underpowered HTC devices that have run windows mobile into the ground with those lame cheapo quallcomm CPUs.

XDA=HTC fanboy forum.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
:D:D:D:D:D

Because you're joking, isn't?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
[Offtopic] all irrelevant topic spam, trolls, unecessary comments, etc... moved here

Trash Bin

Recycle Bin

De-composer

Moderated left overs

Scrapbook

Junk Yard

...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gjurriens:
Don't ask... I'm shure they'll release it when they think it's ready for release (next beta and final).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] XLR8BG:
^ Where did you get your info from? Wiki and microsd manufacturers says nothing about "should be" and "average"... sound shady to me.

* Class 0 - These cards do not specify performance, which includes all legacy cards prior to class specifications.

* Class 2 - Minimum of 2 MB/s performance. Lowest speed for SDHC cards.

* Class 4 - Minimum of 4 MB/s performance.

...

PS Please, don't mix up MB/s with Mb/s... the first is 8 times faster.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] russwarez:
Screen Scratches.

How to Remove Screen Scratches from Galaxy S I9000.

I bought DISPLEX Display Polish, But it says: Do not use on touchscreens and Polycarbonate(PC). Any ideas?... :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hurikhan:
What, are they gods or something???

Why can't we ask what and when to expect?

...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gjurriens:
They aren't gods... (well... maybe in a way they are ;))

But you'll have to expect nothing !!! They do this in their spare time, so they won't give out a time table cause they've got their own lives as well.

They work on it whenever they feel like it, and don't need to be held against a deadline.

If you want a deadline, hire someone to do all the coding, tweaking, etc !!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zurchpet:
You should be happy that they are donateing their knowledge and time for free. Don't demand just donate them some beer and pizza to keep them motivated.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Adevem:
why, are you?

if you can help in coding in your free time without getting paid, while having people like you on the forums asking for ETAs every now and then, perhaps you are a god.

until then... you're just one of those people. ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] deputynl:
thanks, I realize now I am not as smart as I thought ;-)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mike.sw:
this thread qucikly became another general gps discussion... too bad.

people say "gps works better now" - what is better? what exactly was wrong before? is it the fix time? is it the tracking? if so then post before and after tracks to proove it.

just saying it is better based on the fact you got a fix...worthless.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] darkoroje:
The settings discussed at the beginning of this thread are already default in Froyo. Unfortunately it looks like SGS GPS will not be fixed by Samsung and will remain in the current state. There is little point in further discussions.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] milsjg:
Do not switch to a Desire HD

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831737
[Galaxy S I9000 General] milsjg:
more problems

or an iPhone http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12263439

or a ..........
[Galaxy S I9000 General] darkoroje:
The GPS on iPhone 4 is fast and accurate. If you bothered to read the whole of the Apple thread you linked to you would see that that person was advised to send the iphone in for repair and when it came back the GPS was working perfectly
[Galaxy S I9000 General] milsjg:
Touche! You got me there. But.....

http://support.runkeeper.com/discussions/problems/335-iphone4-gps-not-locating-me

or

http://forums.mactalk.com.au/31/92065-iphone-4-gps-problem.html

you may find how many faulty iPhones you wish just by using Google. The internet is full of non working iPhone 4 GPS and other phones GPS as well.

The point is there are problems on all phones with the GPS. It is tricky part to implement so some may get a bad phone (replace it) but there is no garanti that you get a better GPS by choosing another brand.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
Some people for believe is only sgs that has gas problem.

They dont want to listen on the fact that there are problem on most phones. But it still a low % that's effected.

It also fun when people thinks iphone 3 or iphone 4 working flawless.

They don't.

I got one iphone 3gs and that gosh work, but the sgs i got is much much better.

I did have an iphone 4 to and that was better then the 3gs but still it was not as good then the sgs i got.

Do i did sell the iphone 4.

I don't understand how anybody even want a iphone in the first place.

The only good was the games on it.

It sad that the android system don't get all games converted.

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] madmack:
look who spoke again :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
Yeah. I know you all miss Me:-P

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] henriquesb:
Take it easy ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Valeo:
Are you by any chance employed by Samsung? :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ale0crysis:
on Desire HD they have just the RC CyanogenMod 6.1 bah.... :mad:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rothariger:
yeah, the HTC community is larger...

that way they get the stuff earlier...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Aery:
HTC Roms are less cripled than Samsung Roms.

Would say it's easier to port.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dcarr622:
Also does it have to do with the fact that HTC releases better, less crippled source in a timely manner? Seems like Samsung took forever to release their somewhat broken Froyo source, where as the Desire HD had it right away.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dupel:
Technically, they released it week before starting roll-out of froyo.

Even if HTC cripples android less, I would say there is another reason - it is already very well known to developers. So they know what and how to do, whereas with samsung most of the time it was (and is) just guess work.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Dopedangel:
nexus 1 was made by htc so in other words android was made on an Htc phone so

it is easier to port. I think when Google releases gingerbread on Nexus S and releases the source code the release cycle for cynogen on our devices will pick up speed as well.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cantIntoCode:
Well said, all these people who don't know what beta firmware is and are demanding you guys so fix all the problems in a day and complaining that it doesn't work the way is should. It's BETA firmware guys c'mon! Give the guys a break...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] waz000000:
not beta no way barely an alpha, cracks me up! true arogance for the dev team i wonder if they will be returning their donation money to the "noobs"

lost all respect after they threw their dummy out the pram.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hinderbrus:
Couldn't agree more
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaapschaap:
Whahah i love my SGS more then ever with CyanogenMod :) Alpha/Beta doesn't bother me to use it as my daily ROM...

And why would they give money back? If you where so stupid to sent money when you are not happy yet it's your own fault :)

I will defenitly donate some later on, because i can't donate EVERY developer so i wait till i find the best ROM to my needs and THEN donate him :)

ps sorry for worst English post ever :P

ps2 you can still download it so i really don't get your problem :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mrruin:
the classic "I gave you my money so I have every right" reply. They didn't take anything away from anyone. All their work is publicly available, downloadable and abuseable. All they asked is to show some respect and "smarten up" and look for info yourself. I agree when you say that some of it has been done so in quite an arrogant way, however it doesnt change the facts.

Nobody is forced to donate. Nobody donating has any right to demand support. You do not have to pay for this software. Not a cent or penny. Nobody working on open source community project is getting rich, that would be news to me. It is a way of saying "thank you" not "give me more".
[Galaxy S I9000 General] harrydg:
I just got more respect for Cyanogenmod... just because they close this thing up!

time to mature a bit more indeed.

i'm now on Doc's rom (10000+ posts in 1 thread :s), but will definitely see if i can't "help out" on this one (if i ever find the time ;))

so... good work getting out of here ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dagrim1:
Why, did they stop the development of CM? No they didn't...

They got fed up by people asking the same stuff over and over again, people not reading anything they're asked to read, people not doing any effort to find out things on their own, etc.

And I can only imagine how annoying it would be to explain the same things over and over again to people who don't even listen to what you're saying...

They have been and are working their arses off, the phone is actually quite usable with CM in it's current state (I have been using it for half a week now or so) and indeed it is far from finished but hey, they warned about that and I accepted that fact... They only ask people to think themselves and know what they start with, is that too much?