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[Captivate Android Development] kapnkool:
Gingerbread Keyboard

Hi everyone,

I just flashed over to build 8 Non-OC Perception from 7, and I'm only seeing the stock android keyboard, not the gingerbread one. I flashed to stock and master cleared. Did I do something wrong? I saw in the changelog that Gingerbread keyboard was part of 8. Hope someone can help me see the error of my ways! Thanks....
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
i wouldnt mind flashing to the build 9 , BUT WHY WAS GINGERBREAD KEYBOARD removed? What is exactly the point of adding /removing these little, but important things? Cant they be left there, and user will choose what to use? In this case which keyboard. I am thankful I got to use GB keyboard, and now love it. Now its not included. Why do I have to search for it and install apk by myself etc.....
[Captivate Android Development] Phaze13:
Reflash the ROM or try flashing just the Keyboard 1st.

www.xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=863259
[Captivate Android Development] JoelParke:
look closely - are you sure that it's not the Gingerbread keyboard - that is all that is included by default.
[Captivate Android Development] tonyc0642:
I almost went to assonance until I saw this... I'm f*ckin' dyin' for this man.
[Captivate Android Development] Drew489:
Wow...p8 is junk. Constant force closes, horrible battery life and freezes when charging.

What is the benefit of using this unstable rom vs any of the others?
[Captivate Android Development] pvr:
Wow wait a minute... Am I missing something here?

I've just flashed P8 non-OC/UV again but installed gtg's Gingerbread 1.1.3 theme and somehow I got the new market.

I mean... what the hell is happening here? I'm definetely running the same P8 I had before (I tend not to clear my Internal SD)

Anyone else with the same setup experiencing the same "side-effect"?
[Captivate Android Development] Drew489:
Yea...don’t really get why stuff like swype, gingerbread keyboard and other stuff is constantly removed, added and then removed again. I think most people just want a package deal. Maybe offer a stripped version and a version with the stuff people are going to have to add anyway.

Sent from Superman's secret hideout.
[Captivate Android Development] gutowscr471:
I'm suprised you have this experirence. It's absolutely rock solid for me. Everything works perfectly on P8 no-oc. I love the GB keyboard. If P9 does not come with it, can someone post the link to download it?
[Captivate Android Development] krips2003:
Seems like you had a bad flash. DG's roms are more stable than most of the other out on xda. Follow the appropriate steps and flash it again. May be download the rom again.
[Captivate Android Development] kapnkool:
To Joel and Phaze,

Yep, I spoke too soon. It is the Gingerbread Keyboard because I recognize the orange lettering on the suggested words. Boy do I feel foolish. Thanks to both of you for making me look closer....
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Ran completely fine for me. And, judging from the fact that no one else thinks it's "junk", perhaps you did somewthing wrong to give you all the errors.....

So you want the guy to do all that extra work because you dont want to type in the search bar and follow a link? Hell, most of the things people ask for are usually right there in the OP, right below the rom download link.
[Captivate Android Development] JoelParke:
Not a problem and don't feel bad --- as I have discovered - stupid is really powerful and some days I am so powerful :-) :-) -- besides humility is a great virtue - just expensive to get!
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
Are you even making any sense? First of all him removing the GB keyboard apk was an extra work. It was already there, included... duh.

Secondly theres no link for GB keyboard in the OP.

Third. What is the point of adding/removing these little things, as I said previously.
[Captivate Android Development] Mechpilot:
Because DG makes these ROMs the way he likes it and is generous enough to share them with us.
[Captivate Android Development] jweitzel24:
I'm at work and can't get it off my phone, but if someone pm's me their email I can send them the GB keyboard zip so everyone can calm down.
[Captivate Android Development] Drew489:
Ummm, have you read this thread? I'm not the only one having errors.

Sent from Superman's secret hideout.
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
How about a little more information. What was your flashing procedure? What did you restore? It must be something you did as no one else is having the issue you are...:)
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
what an explanation :)
[Captivate Android Development] zrx12mike:
P8 has been rock solid for me. Good battery, improved GPS and very responsive. The only extra I have done to this rom is I added swype back and then restored my apps using titanium pro and not a single issue since the day it was released. I started by going back to stock, master clear, moved the clockworkmod update.zip and P8, udpate.id to the sd card, flashed and waited patiently as it says in the OP, changed my ID with android ID changer, added swype and copied my titanium folder back to the sd, restored my apps and accounts, rebooted for good measure and nothing but smooth sailing. I have been flashing since the SRE releases and P8 is in my opinion the nicest to date. Just my $.02.
[Captivate Android Development] lordabdul:
P8 has also been pretty good so far - very responsive, better battery life than the stock Rogers/Samsung ROM, fast working GPS, etc.

The only issue I have right now is that the notifications tray stopped working correctly when activated with the swipe gesture. Basically, it starts going down like between 10% and 20% of the way, and then freezes in place. I need to press the back button to pull it back up. If I use the "Notifications" button from the home context menu it works fine, but if I use the swipe gesture it doesn't... I'm pretty sure it wasn't like this right after flashing the ROM -- the bug appeared a couple days later. I haven't done much except restoring a dozen apps with AppBrain (all of them pretty well known standard apps) and re-adding my google/facebook accounts. Anyone having the same problem?
[Captivate Android Development] PAulyhoffman:
OK,

for all those waiting for 9.

I am going to re-flash 8 and set it up because my phone is FCing everywhere. Murphy's law = as soon as I flash 8, 9 will be done.
[Captivate Android Development] pvr:
I wouldn't say it's THE explanation but it's the truth I guess... Sometimes ppl tend to forget that not everything and everyone exist for their own benefit.

There's no better way of putting it than "he's kind enough to share with us" which is true. Sure we donate to him but that's a good way of trying to motivate him to continue distributing it for us. Nothing is stopping him from just saying "**** this ****" and let us all without Perception/Cognition.

Ppl were all about the drama regarding Axura but I could not agree more with the situation. It's a favor everyone is getting and instead of complying to the developer wishes they started to go against it because, you know, stick it to the man.
[Captivate Android Development] wonder186:
Thanks for taking on for the team...

Those that are having issues:

I had to flash 8 twice before I got a clean install. I also have had to re-download the zip files in the past as some would never flash right.

It is typically not the ROM. And if there is a known issue DG is very good about fixing it qucikly and owning up. Lets all get along....
[Captivate Android Development] norcal einstein:
Here's the thread on XDA containing the GB keyboard as well.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=863571
[Captivate Android Development] tazman171:
+1, I've been saying that too. Usually probs always fixed with a re-download of files and a re-flash per instructions. DG has always posted when he made a mistake in the rom quickly and has always posted the known issues from the beginning, all the way back in the Eclair days even, lol. :cool:
[Captivate Android Development] n19htmare:
Why the decision to remove gingerbread keyboard from B9?
[Captivate Android Development] tazman171:
Stupid is thick in the air I guess, It's not in the OP because that change log you're reading is for the ROM that isn't out yet. Duh! :rolleyes:

If you would read the change log for the rom that is out it clearly states that it has the Gingerbread keyboard. Further more, it's his rom not yours. Personally I like being able to add what I want and if the rom is full of want I don't want guess what.....I don't even download it. Wow, a concept. :rolleyes:

DesignGears, you know. :cool:
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
To be honest DG can do what he wants to his ROMs and we can

THANK

him for making them for us. "Why?" who knows....but I do know it's not that hard to flash on those extras that the OP does put at the bottom very kindly (maybe hasn't gotten to it yet because he is working on ROM) Besides that all those extras are all over xda....just sayin...
[Captivate Android Development] MentalDragon:
Keyboards and other Stuff

Hey DG and all other devs helping,

First off I love Perception. I am one of the lucky ones that has used all builds and have had really no problems from them at all. I still have GPS manic depression but I am just going to accept that as fate. I have tried all fixes in the forums and have had no true fix.

I for one do not like the Gingerbread keyboard as well as dont like the Swype Keyboard or the stock android keyboard. Me, Myself, and I prefer the Better Android Keyboard. It just fits me better. Didnt mind paying for it, because I liked it. Just like I didnt mind donating $25 to DG for his great job on this rom. For those who think it is junk, dont like it, or it just isnt for them, there are plenty of other Devs out there who are creating other great roms that you can try out. I have tried them all, well most some I just dont think they are for me. I am currently running Assonence 4.3 while I wait for B9.

So everyone lets just get along, send DG his dues, and help him build the best rom in the forums. Lets keep it civil in here, please read the posts, and ask questions. Oh yeah, if it is said to install the rom a certain way, install it that way. I have seen this same problem in all forums. People are trying to install the rom the way they want to and then complaining because It is not working. They rom isnt working it was and I-D-1-0-T ERROR. So follow the directions and happy flashing.
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
Lmao sorry.....I use the I-D-10-T error to at my IT job. :):)

::::ok back on topic waiting for 9::::
[Captivate Android Development] Citznfish:
Is anyone else having problems with call waiting on P8? Seems if i get a second call while already on the phone I lose signal and the call drops.
[Captivate Android Development] tazman171:
Haven't had that issue on P8 non OC, what version of P8 are you using?
[Captivate Android Development] The_Zodiac:
anyone heard of an eta for build 9?
[Captivate Android Development] Citznfish:
P8 non oc.

I also noticed there is an option for video calls, so this isn't the Captivate phone in his build. Thought that might be the reason.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
THAT is extra work.... 2 versions of the whole rom cause you are lazy? FAIL!!! Try searching like everyone else does. Or even better, if you had it before, how about YOU do the work and remove it from the rom you enjoyed it in and install it yourself? ooooo thats too much work.......
[Captivate Android Development] SkitchBeatz:
thanks... looks like i'm going to have to do that. I pinched around the speaker and the sound came in and out.
[Captivate Android Development] The_Zodiac:
anyone hear antything aobut when version 9 is gonna be released?
[Captivate Android Development] sjavvaji:
if u can't tell us...can u beta users comment on the functionality or stability of the new build?
[Captivate Android Development] bhulku123:
Can i use Rom Manager to install Non-OC/UV from OC/UV rom or do i have to go through all initial installation steps? And can i restore all apps using Titanium Backup from Non-OC/UV to OC/UV?

Thanks
[Captivate Android Development] joeybear23:
I would think you should be able to just install the Non-OC/UV kernel without having to mess with the ROM, but I may be wrong.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Folks, we all want the newest and bestest, and from what i can tell, some of these devs seem to be spending every possible moment they can on these roms. I mean, it was like a new version every day for a while there!

These devs will and do release new versions as soon as they are ready (and sometimes even before!), or, as designgears likes to say WID (When It's Done, for the acronym-challenged ;)).

Remember everyone, that this is NOT their job, it is something they do completely at will. We need to be grateful, rather than demanding.

IMHO :D:D
[Captivate Android Development] bluecobras09:
I personally think it is more of a PEBKAC error.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Just flash the kernel and you wont have to reinstall. Should be fine. And yes, you should also be able to restore all your apps and data, its the same rom, just a different kernel setup. As usual, dont TiBu system data, just apps and data.
[Captivate Android Development] bhulku123:
Thanks Guys, i will try it out.
[Captivate Android Development] The_Zodiac:
i really hope they fix the no haptic feedback on the home button issue. (works on axura rom no problem)
[Captivate Android Development] wonder186:
Now you're just being picky.... ;)
[Captivate Android Development] SiL3nTKiLL:
im downloading the update now :) cant wait to give this a shot!
[Captivate Android Development] sjavvaji:
y must u torture us? *weep*
[Captivate Android Development] The_Zodiac:
lol okay, how about it not killing my gps completely? ;p
[Captivate Android Development] RockRatt:
I kind of was able to. That is usually able to do just that. For some reason ( probably my fault or having an issue with undoing voodoo lagfix) when I tried going back from P8 Oc/Uv to P8 no oc I had issues and had to print for the second time ever to clear it. But print wouldn't master clear but finally was able to install stock rom all my original folders were still there. Then I was able to use cam to install P8 no Oc again ( I was on it before trying the oc/uv. The ONLY reason I did go back though was charger death other than that it worked tits...

Perception 8 no oc/uv and my phone likes it that way
[Captivate Android Development] joeybear23:
So, has it been determined that all the sleeping death/USB freezing problems were a result of BFQ?

I have only been running non OC/UV kernels lately because I was hitting those issues, but I remember being able to overclock just fine with Eclair OC kernels, so I didn't think my hardware just couldn't handle it.
[Captivate Android Development] joeshmoe08:
Hello sorry if this was asked, but I don't want to read all the pages.

1) Can the addon animations in the OP be used for other roms or only this one?

2) can I flash another replacement kernel (setiron's) on top of this or will it cause any clashes? (just asking because of the lagfixes and oc's)
[Captivate Android Development] deeZer0:
Soft key lighting (not BLN)

Loving this rom so far. Many thanks.

Is there a way to make the soft keys stay lit while the screen is on? Mine shut off after just a couple of seconds. I may get used to this eventually but right now I need them. I'm coming from a Nexus 1 and they are in a different place so I'm constantly hitting the wrong ones. BLN is turned off so I can't see that being part of the issue.
[Captivate Android Development] RockRatt:
May have been my issue too. I was able to use DGs overclocked sentiron 1280 with no issues. On P8 Oc I was trying mopping though. Not sure if that was my issue then. It would say noop bfq so don't know. Not too sure how to set those settings properly though. Maybe next rom I can enjoy the oc version again.

Perception 8 no oc/uv and my phone likes it that way
[Captivate Android Development] leets4uc3:
any word when the p9 is coming out?

i would love to see no charging death.
[Captivate Android Development] Spectre714:
Hello, I'm on Perception Build 7. I was wondering if there is any way of removing the "Welcome to Perception" and the arrows from the lock screen.

Thanks.
[Captivate Android Development] wonder186:
You can flash the stock lock screen with CWM from the OP.
[Captivate Android Development] joeshmoe08:
Can someone please confirm or deny?
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
Kernel yes you can....disable any voodoo you have first.

Add-on's im not too sure sorry.....
[Captivate Android Development] severinca:
help please it says not enough space everytime i try to install an app
[Captivate Android Development] leets4uc3:
yeah its some pages back. i remember seeing it.
[Captivate Android Development] ctfeet:
Hoping someone can help with this. I flashed P8 yesterday and since then have been unable to get any apps from the market. When I try to download something, the download symbol flashes on for about 1/2 second and goes away and the app never gets installed. Tried reflashing and same thing.

Any ideas?
[Captivate Android Development] joeshmoe08:
Have you checked on your andoid ID if it was changed?
[Captivate Android Development] ctfeet:
How do I do that?
[Captivate Android Development] cnigro1279:
Try clearing data from the market app in application settings. Worked for me.

Sent from my couch on my phone.
[Captivate Android Development] ctfeet:
Just tried that and same thing. Says your item will be downloaded and the download icon flashes quickly and goes away
[Captivate Android Development] cnewsgrp:
Do you have a udpate.id on your sdcard? If not then do this

Flash to stock JF6

Download android id changer and get your android id. Put that in udpate.id file and keep it on your internal sd card.

Flash P8 (or P9 when it comes out)
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
Im pretty sure u need to flash stock then DL "android id" from market looks like bio-hazard symbol then save that ID. Then do same procedure on custom ROM but then do load ID. If you have paid apps ...
[Captivate Android Development] DarrellRaines:
I was having the same issue, but clearing the market data also worked for me.

The only issue I am having now is that my wifi turns off on every shut down and won't auto turn on when I power the phone back on.
[Captivate Android Development] ctfeet:
Flashing stock now. Will give that a try
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
Do you mean it wont ever come back on? Or it auto turn on?
[Captivate Android Development] lrs421:
Is jl3 2.2.1 ?
[Captivate Android Development] mikel.canovas:
Hi, I was having lots of issues that I previously posted on this thread. I was suggested to do a master clear and then try again but all the problems have come back. Any other suggestions?
[Captivate Android Development] ctfeet:
That did it - thanks much for your help!!
[Captivate Android Development] cnewsgrp:
When?.....
[Captivate Android Development] cnewsgrp:
Save that file for future use and always keep it on the sd card. That is your android id.
[Captivate Android Development] JoelParke:
Since you are running 8 - non ov-uv. and I assume that you haven't modified the voltages. I have a couple of questions:

1. When you did the master clear and reflashed stock, DID you have any issues with the stock phone?

2. If not, I would reflash 8 and no restore any apps, but perhaps add a few that you must have by installing them from market. And see if the phone is stable like that.

- one issue that will kill a phone is if you restore any system data from a prior ROM.

If 2 is okay, I would slowly build up your apps that you want - ONE at a time and test for a while after each one. It is not likely, but you might find one app that is causing real problems.

IF you have problems with the phone in stock form, I would return it and get it replaced.

I hope this helps - sorry that you are having so many problems. It sounds like there may well be a hardware issue behind all these symptoms. As you experience is very different than any that have been reported. Not that this would cause ME to feel much better.
[Captivate Android Development] Epiphany:
When it's ready.
[Captivate Android Development] brooklynguy1:
LOL

Such a brilliant answer deserves to be in a sig LMAO

....and here it is....LOL
[Captivate Android Development] keitht:
Kernel source for Nexus S?

http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/samsung.git
[Captivate Android Development] sjavvaji:
never ran a full battery drain on p8 but im surprised...i got 16 hours with some moderate to high use today...hmm...can't wait to have dependable oc/uv settings
[Captivate Android Development] RockRatt:
I saw another person posted for this also but just in case I wanted to add to his explanation.

If you are trying to restore appear or data with titanium backup make sure NONE of them were saved from when you were/are on a eclair 2.1 os. They will not work. You would need to redownload them one by one from the market again. Also when I applied my saved tubular backups I found that 1 app was causing many issues. I added 1 app at a time until I found it. Then I redownloaded it from the market to find it was a NEWER revision of the app and I was trying to apply am older revision. It happened to be the XDA app that I had backed up and caused some fc's

Perception 8 no oc/uv and my phone likes it that way
[Captivate Android Development] DarrellRaines:
If wifi is enabled when I power down, the next time I power up the phone, wifi is not on. Its a minor thing as I can just turn it on myself, but I occasionally forget to and definately do not want to go over on data. At&t already gets enough of my money each month.
[Captivate Android Development] ewingr:
Finally went with Build 8

All seems to be going well, except I can't configure Google Voice. It keeps FCing at the point where it is 'accessing my voice mail configuration'.

I'll post more as I find things, although wiht 9 coming soon, may be nobody will care :p
[Captivate Android Development] cachookaman:
anyone know how to get mms working? i can receive them fine but they wont send.
[Captivate Android Development] tazman171:
Not only save that file but write the number down also and put it in your desk. If your card ever corrupts you will still have it in "hard copy". :D
[Captivate Android Development] wired leprechan:
I got a full 48hrs and battery was down to 20% with low to moderate use.

UV#'s: -25,-25,-25,-75,-75,-100

I would have to say the best battery life I have had since I purchased the phone, these voltages also gave me the best linpack and quad scores for p8 build.
[Captivate Android Development] krisvek:
Use an app like APNdroid to toggle your data on and off may be preferred.
[Captivate Android Development] Haloruler64:
Nope 10char
[Captivate Android Development] lrs421:
Thanks.
[Captivate Android Development] DarrellRaines:
To keep me from going over, yes. However that's more a bandaid than a fix for the issue. Thanks for the suggestion though.
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
O I C....I got unlimited:D Try using Superpower app and control the data instead of wifi....maybe ??
[Captivate Android Development] ph00ny:
any links to quickoffice that came with the at&t's 2.1 update?
[Captivate Android Development] DarrellRaines:
Got that going now. I am not too concerned over going over as I hardly ever use the internet on this phone outside of the home or offices, I was just hoping that if this was a common issue that it would have a solution or be fixed in the next build.
[Captivate Android Development] Joel1030:
On build 9... Why will you remove the Gingerbread Keyboard???? Is very fast and also looks very good in it's dark colors...
[Captivate Android Development] used2hvatreo:
Search... I definitely download quickoffice from this thread.
[Captivate Android Development] Little Dragon:
running p4 here. any way to install the headset fix on our own?
[Captivate Android Development] sinichi21:
install the latest kernel with the fix