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[Captivate Android Development] jwebster:
From 2.3b6 to Pb7

Some help for a NOOB? Although I've only gotten into rooted phone fun in the last month or so, I've been cautious and methodical and had good luck flashing roms and restoring without difficulty.

Now running Cog 2.3b6: from stock 2.1 Éclair, rooted, installed Cognition 2.2b8.1 (right when it came out) by installing the update.zip onto the sd card and using the three button flash. Next went to 2.3b3 by flashing onto the device with CW RM. Then tibu (again), disable lagfix, flashed cw mod, and flashed 2.3b6 from CW RM. Restore via TiBu. Everything has worked really well.

Now I'm looking to jump on Perception. Downloaded Odin; this will be my first go at the device with odin. Despite reading the forum and trying to take it all in, I have a couple of technical questions and would greatly appreciate pointers from anyone that cares to offer perspective or insight:

From a theoretical point of view, when we flash back to stock via Odin (to get the JF6 framework installed in prep for Perception) why don't we have to worry about becomming "un-rooted"? Seems I would lose CW RM on the root when we use Odin? Do I have to reinstall CW RM from the market after the flash to stock, or will the restore a TiBu put it back with root access? Does the file DG offers for flashing back to stock have resident CW rM, or TiBu? Will I need to start with that from the market to get back underway after the flash to stock?

Does Build 7 retain or relieve earlier known issues such as: "wired headset does not work for voice calls"

Is there a consensus on being able to restore apps/widgets from TiBu under a newly flashed oc-uv CogK2 kernal? My apps have been saved on TiBu under the stock kernal 2.6.32.9 jetakellee@sep-11 #1 that is on my i897 baseband I897UCJJ4.

Do I need to make special considerations for this factor or stick with the non oc kernal?

So here's my noob roadmap of the steps to go from 2.3b6 to Pb7, please comment:

1. TiBu

2. Copy Pb7 to int sd card

3. CWM - Current ROM BU

4. Disable Lagfix

5. Flash CW Mod

6. Fully charge

7. Flash to stock JF6 via odin

8. Restart/Reboot

9. TiBu restore/reinstall CWRM

10. Flash Pb7 via CW RM

11. Restore TiBu

Much of this I could probably figure out as I go, but since I rely so heavily on my phone for work, I am grateful for any inputs that will help and/or prevent a good bricking!

Thanks to everyone who lends their efforts to the forum and helps the technically green and inexperienced users like myself.

jw
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
I'll answer the bold part 1st:

When you install rom manager and click "flash clockworkmod recovery", all it does is put the proper update.zip file for your model on your internal sdcard. NEVER lose or rename that file!!! When you are in recovery mode (blue text), the second choice, "reinstall packages", looks for and runs "update.zip". If the file isnt there, no clockwork for you =) If it is there, you can just boot recovery and reinstall packages to access cwm WITHOUT rooting and going thru rom manager.

check the changelog and op (original post) for known issues like the headset.

And as far as tibu goes, you said you are on JJ4, which is a 2.2 froyo, so you can restore apps and data from that. NEVER restore system stuff.

1. TiBu

2. Copy Pb7 to int sd card

3. CWM - Current ROM BU

4. Disable Lagfix

5. Flash CW Mod - as explained, dont have to do it again, just 1 time ever

6. Fully charge

7. Flash to stock JF6 via odin

8. Restart/Reboot

9. TiBu restore/reinstall CWRM - just boot recovery to cwm

10. Flash Pb7 via CW RM

11. Restore TiBu

Enjoy!!
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
Wow that's alot

If you Odin stock it wont wipe your Root but if you master clear it will

CW is in a Update.zip file you put on your SD and Pb7

remove lagfix

flash odin stock

reboot into recovery

"reinstall packages" May have to do it twice

now your in CW ....install zip from SD

choose Pb7.zip

reboot

Hear voodoo it's good just wait.....
[Captivate Android Development] mcord11758:
If you leave the update zip for clockwork on your sd when you flash stock you can go into recovery and reinstall packages and get clockwork recovery without the need to root.

As for the rest I have not flashes this yet, holding and reading
[Captivate Android Development] warren.todd@gmail.com:
I tried P5 and P6 and had lots of issues, stayed on P4 for a bit,now upgraded to P7 after stock flash and its been up 2 hours and everything is working as far as i can tell,just recallibrating batter now since i made teh voltage control changes,will re post any issues and report back on performance/battery life,so far so good....Excellent work DG , thank you :)
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
jwebster,

1: Backup user apps with TiBu

2: Copy Perception zip to internal sd card

3: Odin to JF6

4: Boot into Recovery

5: Select Reinstall packages Since you have already used Rom Manager and Flashed Clockwork Recovery (you will have to select reinstall packages twice)

6: Select Install zip from sd card

7: Select Choose zip from SD card

8: Scroll to Perception zip and select it

9: Select Yes

10: After Install select go back, then reboot

11: Wait for voices to finish and phone to reboot

12: Use TiBu to restore missing apps with data (not restore missing apps + system data)

As far as using Rom Manger or CWM Recovery to perform a backup, there is nothing wrong with performing this step as long as you know the limitations involved with this on our phones. Unlike many others, the backup is not something that you can simply click on to restore as not everything necessary is backed up.

edit.....should have known that my slow typing would mean that the question would essentially be answered....;)
[Captivate Android Development] JPxM0Dz:
Including myself, your at least the third person with this issue. Sorry but I have not seen anybody report a fix for this.

Sent from Axura RC1 Captivate Edition
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
AFAIK, the only fix is to use APN BACKUP AND RESTORE app .

Get app from market. Backup.

Run your tibu backup

in tibu, click menu>more>create update.zip

choose USER and the name TITANIUM ... DO NOT name it update.zip

After you flash perception, clockwork install the tibu zip

run tibu, restore apps and data

use app apn backup and restore to restore
[Captivate Android Development] Mac11700:
OK...I see a lot of folks just saying you won't loose root...but..what if you do..No matter what I've done every time I flash with odin..I loose root..and no I don't touch the update.zip file..My phone doesn't see the directory in those files and it won't reboot and it loses root. My Captivate also has it's drives reversed..My "F" drive is my external Sd and my "G" drive is the internal one..I've copied and pasted that update.zip file over to the other drive and made sure it said update.zip...not update.zip.zip...Since this rom is working well..and seems to have more themes becoming available..I am certainly interested in it...but I've had a ton of issues with just getting odin to work properly.

Mac
[Captivate Android Development] born_fisherman:
anyone make any tweaks to voltage? what did you use and how is it working for you?
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
I'm confused by this post. being rooted has nothing whatsoever to do with booting into clockwork recovery. You flash stock to jf6 with odin1click. YOU LOSE ROOT. You power off. You boot into recovery. You choose reinstall packages. If it doesnt take you to clockwork, it says "replacing stock recovery with clockwork" really quickly, you can barely see it. Then it reboots to the recovery screen again. You choose reinstall packages again. POOF... green text-ed clockworkmod menu.....

At no time did you have to root, as long as update.zip is on the /sdcard. If you cannnot get into cwm from recovery by clicking reinstall packages, then you moved, renamed or its not update.zip for clockwork.
[Captivate Android Development] jwebster:
Many many thanks to techmik67 Cboss mcord11758 and newter55 for the quick and helpful posts. newter55 and these other contributors have created a very helpful checklist for all us newbees...

Thanks again for helping understanding grow.

You guys are awesome!

jw
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
The zip is on your intermal sd card in the partition where you dont need root access to see or use it there is no need for you to move it around...just leave it where it is
[Captivate Android Development] magicman0:
Its very simple.

1. Make sure you have the cwm update.zip on your internal sd card.

2. Disable voodoo

3. Flash back to stock.

4. Go into recovery mode and select reinstall packages.

5. In cwm, select perception to install.

You dont need a root to use cwm recovery.
[Captivate Android Development] 1randomtask:
i had this for about 5-6 reboots. It came good though. Can't add APN though :/
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
few pages back:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9593789&postcount=3238
[Captivate Android Development] pvr:
I had a FC during first boot after stock lock screen. Removed from charger, reboot and after all set and battery @100% plugged in charger.

Cappy died. I had to remove the battery. Is this "charger death"?

If so, here's one report :-\
[Captivate Android Development] born_fisherman:
How's battery life on OC/UV version of B7 for you guys? Battery is draining like crazy for me - especially when I'm using it :D -Under battery use- Display is 93% - Wow! I don't think I've ever seen the usage that high before.
[Captivate Android Development] 1randomtask:
That's a pain in the ass.

Is there any manual way? (editing a conf or whatever) - I know my APN details off by heart.
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
If.you are using odin back to stock there is no reason to even bother with lagfix disabling
[Captivate Android Development] Mac11700:
Sorry...this is not true as far as my phone goes..I certainly know if it is allowing into Clock Works recovery..and the Update.Zip file is in place on both drives..but it doesn't..It takes me directly into the standard 2e recovery which is blue..when I select reinstall packages..no matter how many times I do this and reboot..it states it failed and there is no directory in the files..I've copied these files off my internal drive when I had Axura on it..and put them in both internal and external drives..Nothing is working properly..Superuser is gone..CWM won't boot into it's recovery because of it since I have no root...and it states that on a pop up that shows up..busy box is also gone..Any other suggestions...I really don't want to have to go through 10 hours of pulling my hair again..

Mac
[Captivate Android Development] tsachi:
The step you are probably missing is the restart into recovery, which doesn't need root. Follow these steps:

1. On your phone, after installing stock, go to the settings->Applications->Development and check USB debugging

2. connect to your computer

3. Assuming you installed android SDK, open command prompt and go to the android-sdk-windows\tools\ folder

4. type adb.exe reboot recovery

The phone will reboot into recovery mode

I actually created a batch file that I keep with the 1-click odin that sends the reboot command.
[Captivate Android Development] revolvingdoorslammer:
I'm finally up and running smooth and fast!! Definitely the most problems I've had trying to flash a rom, but its all good! Now I just hope I don't have this said charging death issue... Great work as always DG!!

Sent from my OC'd & UV'd Captivate running Perception 7
[Captivate Android Development] Mac11700:
I've got the sdk files and all drivers downloaded..so I guess I'll try that and see if it works..Thanks

Mac
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
You think it's a pain in the as to backup? Ok, ......
[Captivate Android Development] JPxM0Dz:
Thanks!

Sent from Axura RC1 Captivate Edition
[Captivate Android Development] 1randomtask:
Yeah, it is considering to go from Perception 4 to 7 i've had to flash the handset 3 times already (twice back to stock).

So I need to...

1. Flash back to Stock

2. Configure my APN

3. Add my Google Account

4. Root

5. Find some App.

6. Backup APN

7. Get Rom Manager

8. Flash CWM

9. Flash Perception 7

10. **** around rebooting a bunch till it boots

11. The do your suggestion.

As opposed to (hopefully)

1. Edit a file with ~7 lines

2. Reboot.
[Captivate Android Development] wade7919:
Flash Stock..

Reboot

Reboot again into RECOVERY SELECT REINSTALL PACKAGES SHOULD TAKE 2 TIMES AND YOU GOT IN TO CLOCKWORK FLASH PERCEPTION OR WHATEVER OTHER ROM YOU ARE TAKING Way to many steps to get to the final goal
[Captivate Android Development] wade7919:
I have yet to install root on stock when flashing back... I have never isntalled Clockwork every on my phone... i have only added the CLOCKWORK update.zip then just reinstall plackages and 2 times of doing that it boots in to CLOCKWORK
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
I... cant.... hold..... back..... the..... sarcasm........

Yes, there's an easy way... I just wanted to make things difficult =)

You are fc-ing on the easy way, and others have too.... just trying to help...... ;);)
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
Glad to hear that....:)
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
One click root

open market DL Clockwork

flash recovery

put update.zip on SD (both just incase)

reboot recovery....reinstall packages (probly twice)

install zip from SD
[Captivate Android Development] dalewest:
ETA on wired headset fix?

As one of the folks that need wired headsets, any thoughts on when/how they might work again? I keep hearing about how great P6 is/was, but without a working wired headset, I can't use it... and it looks like P7 is a no-go for me too.

*cries softly*
[Captivate Android Development] fatttire:
Not likely to be soon. This has been a known issue for a while... nobody really knows how to get around it... I suspect there will be a fix when the official froyo is released from ATT with the source code.. and who knows when that will be.
[Captivate Android Development] crazililazn:
On P7, whenever i charge the battery with the phone off, i never get the 100% message. Like, when it reaches 100%, the battery icon just refreshes and starts to charge again.... Anyone else have this bug? O.o
[Captivate Android Development] dalewest:
It would be great if your newly created checklist could wind up somewhere in the OP... otherwise, in an active thread like this, it's likely to get lost....
[Captivate Android Development] johneric8828:
I'm trying to turn lagfix off on Perception Build 5 with Clockworks, i'm in recovery and i'd see an option to remove lagfix.
[Captivate Android Development] dalewest:
Thanks.

Perhaps I've missed it in the gazillion posts I've read over the past week or so, but ... what is the issue? I'm currently running Cog 2.3b6 and my headset works fine.
[Captivate Android Development] Scottbg1:
FACT: You DO need root for Rom manager to run, but you do NOT need to be rooted for CWM to work.

If Clockwork will not boot from 2e then you have a corrupted zip file. Its the only thing it could be.
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
love the bln app on build 7. just flashed about an hour ago.....i like to give it about a day or 2 to report real issues. install went smooth as always though.

Very happy DG.

More beer money coming :)
[Captivate Android Development] boomerod:
No, he's not the man, he is one of many men; no one in the forum stands on their own, we all stand on the shoulders of someone else.
[Captivate Android Development] rasroygbiv:
All i9000 based ROMs have the wired headset issue. Source code is the only hope.
[Captivate Android Development] bts0uth:
Only issue ive had is camera app sometimes freezes my entire phone and reboots its self. Seems to happen randomly though.

Posted from my Captivate running Perception build 7 with CogKernel2
[Captivate Android Development] xavier55:
yes i did but i remove my sd card it went bad and cause the phone to act crazy
[Captivate Android Development] Tweak4fun:
Flashed a few hours ago. I'm on the fence with this one. Phone kept locking up (required battery pull) so I set maximum cpu freq to 1000. Haven't tried UV yet on this one. P4 worked great @ 1200 with UV. I'm lovin' the new boot screens though. No lockups since disabling OC. Overall it doesn't seem as stable & fast as P4. I'll stay with it for awhile to test though. This rom is very green yet.
[Captivate Android Development] dalewest:
Thanks.

So it sounds like my options are to A) stay where I'm at (which is OK I suppose... no real issues that tick me off) or B) try a different ROM.

Or is there a secret option C?
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Ummmm, it's an expression.

In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka, "Lighten up, Francis!"
[Captivate Android Development] glitch88:
okay, so i realize im a complete idiot when it comes to alot of this stuff. im getting bored of the rom i have (Cognition, month or so old). i know how to flash roms, but whats up with the kernel thing? do i have to change it to use this new build of perception? if so, how would i go about doing that. Also, whats the oc/non-oc? DG mentioned that not everyone needs something thats why there is a non version of the rom.
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
LMAO.........
[Captivate Android Development] tsachi:
Installed Perception 7, went smooth after stock. Not sure I like the Voodoo talking lady (without restarting the girlfriend thread from before - you can't install it next to a sleeping spouse:) ).

Restoring data wasn't as smooth. Seems like there are a lot more things cause FC upon restore compared with previous versions. Even just restoring TIBU pro didn't work well. After installing T-wiz and restoring data for it I had to reboot twice before it stopped FC (It worked flawlessly in COG and perception 4).

First impression

- everything runs smoothly

- BT voice dial still works

- The H is back in cellular state (those who don't know what it means, search this forum, it's not a bug)

- Email (exchange and Gmail) both work

- Contacts from FB - still inconsistent. Worked after removing, then re-adding the account
[Captivate Android Development] Cboss:
Just choose witch rom you want to flash. some people have problems with the o/c so it depends on your phone that's why there is 2. Or some people just want to mix the kernel with the rom they already are using so DG posted just kernel also.
[Captivate Android Development] wade7919:
Just Download the Oc an Non-Oc version stick it on your phone

flash to stock

reboot

reboot to recovery

install packages

goto CWM

Install Perception OC or Non-OC depending on which one you want.

Install Completes. Reboot.

Watch the Magic happen..

the Perception B7's has the new cogkernel in them already
[Captivate Android Development] crazililazn:
Its the kernel. I noticed it too, and when i flashed Setiron's 1.4.3 1280 kernel, the camera freeze was fixed, also wifi not staying on after a reboot was fixed as well.
[Captivate Android Development] glitch88:
oh, cool. thank you cboss and wade. makes sense. ill give it a try
[Captivate Android Development] bmunday:
did you just show up from slashdot? Lurk for a while. You shouldn't be doing this if you don't kno0w whats being done here.
[Captivate Android Development] jwebster:
One more thing...

Hope I'm not being too simplistic, but I am a noob... I'm on the cusp of Pb7 going into my cappy. I followed the link to get the Odin3 One-Click Downloader.

So now when I put my phone in download mode and connect to the pc, something is suposed to happen. I'm just not exactly sure how it will flow.

Here's my question: Is I897UCJF6 ROM prepackaged and included in the version of odin3 download I got from DG here:

I897UCJF6 - Odin3 One-Click Downloader:

http://www.thevod.org/misc/captivate...l-OCD-REV0.rar

Do I need to have the ROM file downloaded previously from somewhere else??

When we hook it up and hit start, this version of Odin is queued up to flash JF6, right?

Thanks!

jw
[Captivate Android Development] tsachi:
Option C: Get a bluetooth headset. No sound quality issues with this build and you can use the voice-dial through over BT.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
We were all new once =)

OC= OverClock and UV=UnderVolt. Not all phones can handle it.
[Captivate Android Development] bts0uth:
DG, the issue with camera has something to do with config optimizations

SetiroN's normal kernel works with no camera issue at all. I even tried 1350OC and it worked fine. The XT version however does have issues with the camera freezing and the only differences between the normal and XT version is this:

XT variant: config optimizations: HZ=500, PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY, UACCESS_WITH_MEMCPY, KSM

So one of these things that are also in CogKernel2 should be the issue.

Posted from my Captivate running Perception build 7 with CogKernel2
[Captivate Android Development] avgjoegeek:
Lol it gets easier the more you flash.

I'm usually up and running on a new ROM in about 20 min now.
[Captivate Android Development] boomerod:
So many multi-quotes already I have to stop and reply...

+1 - it was in the changelog at one time and then just "disappeared"

Also, I9000 ROMs or kernels - not sure which - do not re-activate the backlight unless you touch one of the buttons. This was pointed out several weeks ago in Xcaliburinhand's re-oriented kernel thread. It would cool to see a fix for this and the no haptic home button bugs.

I agree. The more options left to the user the better.

Personally, if the voicemail notification worked on Axura I would never have left it. It was an awesome ROM, objectively speaking.

Master is being childish, just like at least a handful of other devs on this forum (they know who they are).

I agree, to an extent. But he's being childish about it and may, at some point, realize his decision was not wise.

This kind of comment is an example of worthless, mean-spirited and condescending.

One learns to ignore comments like those you're responding to, but even the most restrained person gives in to the temptation.

Again, I feel you brotha!! I don't always follow my own advice: take the high road and ignore the BS.

Sorry, been holding back now through at least 5 of your worthless comments. Do you not have anything else to do then beat on others for asking questions. I don't see Mod under your handle.

OK, you started out good...but, I think not looking elsewhere does yourself a disfavor. DG is not a God; he is a good dev, but clearly has some work to do on his attitude and maturity. You just fueling his big head with comments like this. I think he also needs to re-examine his motives for his work.

Agree with several others that responded to this comment: not wise and not productive.

Agree!

Agree!

+1...would like to know that too.

That's because it's not in the version you so sarcastically posted above. Really, dude, you need to get a life.
[Captivate Android Development] dalewest:
I've considered that, but since the spousal unit gave me some nice earbuds for my bday only two months ago, I gotta stick with them for awhile. Marital bliss and all.
[Captivate Android Development] tbong777:
LOL Did not even notice ATT VMX was not working on Axura. I have been using Google Voice for fowarding since one of DGs ROMS have no VMX.....would not go back to ATT. Kind of like the transcribed VMs with audio attached going to my Gmail address. Can save them as long as I like and revist them at will.

I don't use my Google Voice number to dial out. Just to take my messsages.

AS far as Axura...I almost reflashed over it tonight but deeiced after Build 6 I should give this ROM a few days and see how it shakes out. I really like the frpoyo Black theme on Axura and Cog2kernel.

I think Hans should continue to build Axura despite Masters whining. Meh I will ened up on a DG ROM at some point anyway.