yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire General] ieftm:
Boot your phone in fastboot mode,

this should say something like this in the top line:

BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON.

This seems to apply to -NEW- PVT4 devices only.

Apparently there are some older ones named PVT4 as well.

Check using the following:

cat /proc/mtd (from adb shell or terminal emulator)

Erasesize will say either 20000 or 40000, whereas the last one identifies your device as being PVT4 New. This has a different NAND chip, which uses a bigger pagesize and changed partition offsets.

Tools will need to be adjusted to work with this change (for example, ClockWorkmod, AlphaRev, and some custom ROMs.)

Check out AlphaRev 1.8 at http://alpharev.nl , that should install HBOOT S-OFF for these PVT4 new devices now too :)
[Desire General] StuMcBill:
Interesting news ieftm! Thanks for keeping us up to date!

Any other notable changes?

Stu
[Desire General] ieftm:
Everything 'seems' the same, but in fact the NAND partition layout has been completely overhauled. That's why recovery and S-OFF fails for now.

Most likely HTC *might* have switched to a different NAND manufacturer for these devices. Other than that, they seem to be about the same as the SLCD PVT3 devices.
[Desire General] ljesh:
I don't remember another device's part to be changed so often. First the screen, not (it seems) the NAND...
[Desire General] baadnewz:
My Desire is PVT4, and its rooted, s-offed and with custom rom
[Desire General] mr.r9:
It's a high selling, appealing device. Meaning HTC probably had to buy materials from various manufacturers to meet the demand.
[Desire General] Aladar42:
Can we request to have this stickied, at least till the info soaks in?
[Desire General] justinkb:
Reminds me of Theseus' ship :p
[Desire General] bbk:
What is the differencies between pvt3 and pvt4 ?
[Desire General] baadnewz:
Here

sent via morse code .__._
[Desire General] coutts99:
Same for me
[Desire General] Ninolina:
I have a PVT4 Desire and have a good working recovery, S-Off, and LeeDroid v2.2f, too..;)
[Desire General] snukems:
could you please tell me how you managed that as i appear to be the first one who told the guys about this problem as it was my phone that messed up after rooting. I am starting to lean to the point that perhaps it was something to do with the clockwork mod img as i found another post in q and a where someone had the exact same problem as me but after putting root on with that and it turned out once they managed to get amonra on the phone they are now fine and have managed to get leedroid. I may give it ago now and report back to see if it works.
[Desire General] chichoko:
Most importantly.. since it seems that the PVT4 model has a new NAND.. is there any notable difference in HD recording? Does it still have problems playing back videos on the device without the custom kernels?
[Desire General] duryard:
Yeah. I got one of them when mine came back from repair.

I used unrevoked to root it which is fine. Recovery works fine as in nand backup and restore but so far I have been unable to install custom roms or older backups of custom roms
[Desire General] fireball2k:
Interesting thing. After trying some things with ieftm who is still debugging for alpharev things, I found out now, that LeeDroid is installable via Amon-RA recovery - maybe even clockworkmod would work, I'll give it a try in a few Minutes. Other ROMs I tried were OpenDesire and Modaco MCR R9, which both failed installing. LeeDroid seems to have it's own drivers...
[Desire General] michaelanyon:
I'm the same - well not tried s off yet..

Tried a few roms - the sense hd roms worked..

But with a few of the roms can't remember names will have to look later, i just got a black screen with different coloured lines down it..

Back to stock now. Now this has been discovered hopefully there will be a custom rom i can use!
[Desire General] fireball2k:
Short update: clockworkmod for now really doesn't work. Neither with MCR, nor with LeeDroid.

Seems the latest MCR (R9 as of today) has an outdated kernel which doesn't adopt the new memory layout, but leedroid has.

Probably _all_ AOSP kernels won't work on PVT4 devices.

[EDIT]

People with PVT4 devices AND S-OFF... please explain exactly what you did to achieve this.

[/EDIT]
[Desire General] Theliels:
fireball2k, can you tried with latest defrost?
[Desire General] protuger:
I have PVT4 i have rooted it using unrEVOked.

E: Can't find MISC:

E: Can't mount CACHE: recovery/command

E: Can't find MISC:

E: Can't mount CACHE: recovery/log

E: Can't find MISC:

But this message keeps showing everytime im in Recovery.

I have tried LeeDrOiD_v2.2f_A2SD but installation aborted. I tried other roms but still i can't manage to install it

Now i have tried Virtualbox method for S-off(AlphaRev) but flashing failed. The message says something like im not properly rooted. "The phone is not bricked."

You can safely reboot your phone." But i have noticed that during the process 2 black lines appeared at the HTC logo and hangs.

I can Power+VolD to Hboot but im stuck at HTC logo with 2 black lines. It seems i can no longer boot my phone.

I have to pop up the battery and tried again but no luck..
[Desire General] SkyDX:
Out of curiousity, from a technical point of view, can erasesize 40000 hinder the operation of custom ROMs?
[Desire General] bigsee:
No, except the custom ROM needs S-off (the answer is in your quote...)
[Desire General] SkyDX:
Alright, so I think I will be the first one that tries a MIUI on Erasesize 40000, afaik S-ON is okay with it and I made every possible precaution (Nandroids, Goldcard)
[Desire General] dcesarec:
so...

erasesize 40000!

rooted

clockworkmod from the begining of the tread

then i managed to get recovery

installed last radio...

then i tried to install rom (something 6.1)

didnt work but leedroid works just fine!
[Desire General] Demirulez:
I can confirm this also. Successfully flashed with the cfg above, now i'm running without any problem LeeDroid v2.3b A2SD. I didn't resist to waiting :p.
[Desire General] SkyDX:
Flashed eMIUI 0.12.18 today on a 40000 Desire, works like a charm with the matching RIL :)
[Desire General] bigsee:
Some ROMs can be flashed, others can't... why...? On what depends the needing of S-OFF?
[Desire General] LoveMyNewTelephone:
Can I flash the new Bravo Oxygen HBOOT from AlphaRev into my 40000 erasesize phone?
[Desire General] psygbert:
nope. at least for now.
[Desire General] munkymcghee:
Have used unrevoked with the Custom Recovery on my Desire and have root access, have swapped ROMS and phone appears OK......

Still says S-On however but, it seems to have worked!
[Desire General] Sandi K:
Well, my Desire can be prepared with unrevoked and AmonRa, prepared SD card with Gparted LiveCD, but no one custom ROM recognises sdext partition. So, looks like I have situation with the latest version of Desire?

Regards,

Sandi
[Desire General] bigsee:
How do you know it doesn't recognize the SD card? I used under Ubuntu 10.10 (live and installed too) with Gparted and it was succesfull.
[Desire General] psygbert:
the caveat of the new desire is that it cannot be s-off yet but apps2sd should work on custom roms on those models.
[Desire General] [armitage]:
EDIT:Made an own thread regarding this.
[Desire General] 44IN:
Hi, if I can ask, so I am stuck white Desire, it's unrevoked but of course recovery doesn not work etc...

I am trying to get it to stock rom and unroot it, if someone can give me some steps, I tried with several stock RUU's and PB99IMG zips, created goldcard and read this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831734 thread to because I was geting CID incorrect.

But no luck, cant get it past CID incorect I dont know maybe I am missing something? And cant get it to change recovery to custom amonra to try force an update from zip .

So some simplified steps please maybe I missed something in all of pages in all of those topics about that.
[Desire General] Sandi K:
In Gparted, I lowered the size of fat32 partition and in empty space created a new sdext partition of 768 MB. But when trying to install custom ROM, on every ROM I tried it said that sdext cannot be accessed.

Regards,

Sandi
[Desire General] bigsee:
1/ In Gparted first delete all the partition (after backup everything from SD!), and then create new one, FAT32 sized (full size - ext (e.g.: 4GiB/768MiB=> 4096-768=)) 3328MiB, then create the second primary(!) with ext 2/3/4 (I prefer 3) of the size remaining from full.

After it copy back the content of the backed up SD to the FAT32.

It will be recognized and used by the ROM.

2/ Backup the SD and format it in recovery, and in USB disk mode you can copy everything back.

Please don't forget, do it if you know what you are doing! On your own risk!!!
[Desire General] Rastaman-FB:
S-OFF 1.8 http://alpharev.nl/

Supported devices:

HTC Desire GSM (Bravo), all hardware models (PVT4 too)
[Desire General] godina:
I have a few simple questions...does this mean that all custom ROMs will work on earsize 40000 device?

Should we still use cwmr recovery or is any recovery ok?
[Desire General] mad-murdock:
S-off is not connected to any roms running or not. Read the release thread our the web page to understand it's purpose

Swyped with HTC Desire. Excuse typos.
[Desire General] bigsee:
Did you try it? I did and it doesn't working... error message...
[Desire General] bigsee:
Ops, sorry my mistake ... I didn't rooted before try it... OMG

Anyway is it working on PVT4/40000?
[Desire General] psygbert:
yups it will work on ALL gsm models including those with erasesize 40000
[Desire General] Rastaman-FB:
glad it worked for you in the end

im not pvt4 and i already have s-off

i was just informing people that missed the update on the dev thread
[Desire General] randal24:
Working absolutely fine here. S-OFF on PVT4 with 40000, LeeDroid rooted ROM 2.3b.

Just waiting for the tables to be updated now, and we're laughing. :D

Cheers!
[Desire General] harry70:
Pvt4/40000 s-off with alpharev 1.8. All works fine and quick
[Desire General] godina:
I have PVT4 earsize 40000 device. I want to root it but i dont know which recovery should i use. I have mangaged to usb-brick my device so i'm going to be extra carefull now and ask many questions:P

So which one should i use, amon_ra, clockwork or cwmr?

People with earsize 40000 devices which one do you use?
[Desire General] harry70:
i've also pvt4/40000 and amonra 2.0.0 worked fine for me!
[Desire General] psygbert:
clockwork from the alpharev cd would be fine. personally, i'm using amon ra 2.0.1. it's all about preferences anyway.
[Desire General] randal24:
I rooted with unrEVOked and the custom CWM, flashed to LeeDroid 2.3b (and radio) then used AlphaRev 1.8 to S-OFF.

Not sure what the process would be now, but the above worked for me on a PVT4/40000 device.
[Desire General] danarama:
Must be going mad. Linked to this thread in a rooting faq yesterday for the custom CWM for PVT4, but coming back to it today, it now seems to all be about s-off.

I know thats a recent development, but can someone explain? Is modified clockwork mod no longer needed? I think it is. Where can it now be found?

Thanks in advance
[Desire General] MasDroid:
If you had flashed this earlier and s-off'ed, then there is not need for you to do it again. This recent change will make no difference if flashed again as the Hboot remains the same, so no need to s-off if already done so. The latest modified ClockworkMod for AlphaRev (2.5.1.8) just fixes issues for the PVT4 new (40000) devices.
[Desire General] psygbert:
the alpharev iso will give you the option to flash clockworkmod-alpharev recovery
[Desire General] supersaker:
thanx alpharev

new alpharev is working perfectly!

flashed clockworkmod-alpharev recovery also and it's working great

to bad that it changes HTC logo (intro screen) to alpharev web image... ;)

p.s. ...just a small text "Alpharev" in the midle of the screen would work :)

desire - PVT4 - 40000
[Desire General] angusc:
Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] danarama:
Forgive me, I don't think I was very clear.

I have written a rooting FAQ (here if interested: http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/221212-faq-rooting.html#post2073075 ) in which I reference the modified CWM to use with unrevoked from this thread for PVT4 devices.

I have added a reference to the latest Amon RA which is reported to work with Amon RA, but I would still like to inform people of a CWM image that will also work with PVT4 devices.

Until Yesterday, this Modified CWM was linked here, but no more. Does anyone know where else it can be downloaded from in a .img format please?
[Desire General] harry70:
You can change it back to the original Splashscreen. Read faq on alpharev Website
[Desire General] psygbert:
read my previous post. you can find the cwm-alpharev recovery in the iso.
[Desire General] danarama:
Sorry I read that post as when using the iso, you get the option to flash it, but of course you need root to use it.

So is it a different option you can use? or do you just mean extract the .img from the .iso?

Downloading the iso now to see if its extractable
[Desire General] psygbert:
get it from the iso. you can also boot it in virtualbox or vmware. there's ftpput command there.
[Desire General] whybz:
it worked on me desrie, pvt4, new year present...oh yeah!
[Desire General] kmetek:
how to S-OFF with us with PVT1 ?
[Desire General] psygbert:
pvt1 can be s-off even by older alpharev.
[Desire General] kmetek:
where? details? is it ok to have s-off or not? :D
[Desire General] psygbert:
alpharev's site http://alpharev.nl

and their thread too - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=794314
[Desire General] jellyfish0000:
sorry a noob here. i have a htc desire and it has

BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.93.0001

i understand that unrevoked will not work on this. am i right to say by running alpharev, it will "root" my desire and allow me to load custom rom?

gone to http://alpharev.nl and there are multiple version to download. which one should i use? also, i'm a mac osx user.

hopefully i can get some tips (or howto) from android veterans here :)

thank you in advance.
[Desire General] psygbert:
the iso should now work on all desire models
[Desire General] jellyfish0000:
do i just run the alpharev.iso? do i need to run unrevoked 1st?
[Desire General] rossmoore:
PVT4 yet alpharev 1.8 doesn't work

Hi,

I've used unrEVOked to root my HTC Desire PVT4 (LCD screen, 20000 erase size NAND). To do so I had to tweak my misc partition, putting my CID at the beginning of the partition. The latest alpharev 1.8 tool fails to recognise my device properly.

If I boot into HBOOT I get the following line:

BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF.

Now I'm confused. While I've tried to use alpharev, it has never got beyond trying to recognise my device. If I'm S-OFF, how did I get there? And is there anything I can do to get alpharev to work on my device? The device ID, which the 1.8 tool asks me to note down, is PB992.
[Desire General] sarinsoman:
After many unsuccessful attempts with Unrevoked 3.22,I have rooted my same config phone with Unrevoked 3.3. I used the recovery amonRA.

If you need S-OFF of then you can try alpharev.
[Desire General] jellyfish0000:
i think i have successfully rooted my desire with unrevoked 3.3.

sorry for my noob question, what's amonRA?

does all custom rom requires s-off?
[Desire General] sarinsoman:
Its called recovery image which can be used to flash custom rom.its not necessary to have S-OFF for custom ROMS.But its recomended.
[Desire General] flyingff82:
I could need some help as i am stuck right now.

What i could do:

Root the phone with unrevoked.

What all didn't work:

Anything with cwm, like backup or flashing rom.

Bringing another recovery to the phone, e. g. Amonra. Tried with unrevoked and even with terminal.

Getting s-off with alpha rev 1.8, it doesnt recognize the phone.

Downgrading the phone, then i was stuck after the first htc logo with red triangle. Luckily i could flash the standard ruu and back to default now.

Whats strange to me: it is an unbranded new bought pvt-4 lcd. But during the downgrade process it told me that i would have a Vodafone cid and i needed a goldcard. I cant imagine how this can be.

Finally the question is how to flash another rom when any way i tried didn't work?!

Pvt-4 ship s-on

Hboot 0930001

Installed latest ruu 2.29

Maybe so. has an idea?
[Desire General] yenemy:
I have the same issue... emailed the Alpharev team just now, will post here if/when I get a response. Did you buy your phone in China?
[Desire General] angusc:
Have u tried a gold card? Use the goldcard tool which is nice n easy.
[Desire General] jellyfish0000:
i have a PVT4 s-on too bought during xmas. It's Telstra branded (AUS) version. ran unrevoked 3.3 and successfully rooted it. however i did not run the s-off (by alpharev) yet.

now i'm running a custom rom (oxygen) on it.

the steps i took was:

1. htc desire (telstra branded)

2. created gold-card on my 2GB micro-sd (using this tool recommended by masdroid) http://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/

3. loaded the WWE ROM - RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe

4. run unrevoked 3.3 - to root the phone

5. install custom ROM

hope this helps :)
[Desire General] snootched2:
Late to the party here.. read the whole thread, and only really have one question left remaining..

I have Desire GSM, PVT4, erasesize 20000. By all accounts, latest AlphaRev will s-off this device.

Question: will the posted Tables work correctly (ie. N1 table) on this device? Being erasesize 20000 suggests yes.

Thanks
[Desire General] flyingff82:
Thanks to jellyfish and angusc for your reply.

Although i had already tried it about 5 times, i used once more unrevoked with a fresh rom and amonra as recovery... and guess what, suddenly it worked!

Now i have amonra 2.0.1 and no problems doing nandroid backups or flashing roms. Everything works fine.

As i dont need s-off right now i didn't use alpharev again... i'll just wait for a newer version.
[Desire General] sianzb0i:
hi guys

i just rooted my device (PVT4) wif unrevoked 3.22

1) i understand that there is an issue wif rom backups on PVT4 devices and that amonra 2.0 is able to backup the rom using nandroid (am i right?)

2) if so, now that i have cwm in my device how do i

a) install amonra 2 (does it need S-off)

3) if i do s-off does it

a) void warranty?

b)reversible to s-on?

just got my 1st android device a few days ago so i am very lost after the many failed attempts at rooting :)
[Desire General] psilakos:
Hi all,

Got my Desire just before the new year. Used latest Unrevoked to root and installed CWM recovery 2.5.0.7.

When trying to backup Nandroid, got error "can't find Misc" etc

Tried alpharev 1.8 and my phone wasn't recognised.

Phone is

Bravo PVT4 Ship S-ON

HBOOT 0.93.0001

Radio 5.11.05.27

This is my first ever Android phone. Will ask noob question. If I wanna replace CWM with Amon Ra, do I flash using unrevoked? The lastest version I dl from the unrevoked site installed CWM during root.

Also, any suggestions as to why unrevoked will not find my phone? Tried closing-reopening, no joy. Plugged-unplugged phone, same. Enabled-disabled debugging mode, still no joy. Stood up and danced counter clockwise around my chair while standing on one foot, made me look like a fool in my gf's eyes :p
[Desire General] sianzb0i:
any help?.....
[Desire General] bigsee:
Did you read the topics and warnings? IMO these questions are answered forumwide... Afaik the S-Off can't be made back...
[Desire General] psygbert:
it's still reversible by flashing ruu w/ stock hboot.
[Desire General] ddee:
Hi guys I have a goldcard debranded PVT4 erase size 40000, SHIP S ON and would really appreciate some good advice. Details as below

HBOOT 0.93.0001

MICROP-051D

TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101

RADIO-5.11.05.27

Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18

I rooted with unrevoked which installed clockwork v2.5.0.7. I then partitioned the sd card with an ext3 partition, checked it worked by booting into the standard wwe rom. Then attempted to install the Leedroid rom which failed to install. This resulted in a usb brick. The ohone will boot, but without any memory card functionality.

I can still mount the sd card in recovery following the modaco usb fix. But the included update.zip has not restored sd card functionality to the rom. It still shows as unavailable in the settings menu. The modaco fix has failed. I have tried different memory cards with the same results.

When you boot into recovery it shows.

E:can't find MISC:

E:can't mount CACHE:recovery/command

E:can't find MISC:

E:can't mount CACHE:recovery/log

E:can't find MISC:

I'm pretty new to Desires and was wondering what my next move should be. A lot of what i've read doesn't apply to my phone and I think that there is probably a problem with the rooting of my phone which is stopping the fix working. Can anyone suggest what my next move should be?
[Desire General] sianzb0i:
i also have the same msg...its due to the new PVT4 desires...my HBOOT shows the same info as yours....so i am trying to use amonra like they recommended but i am not sure if it needs S-off....if it needs, then i remember reading from somewhere saying alpharev s-off MAY work on pvt4 desires only....and i am not sure how to s-on back for warranty purposes
[Desire General] ddee:
So you've lost sd function as well?

I'm also a bit worried that if I run Alphrev as well that i'll compound the problem.

[edit] Ran unrevoked again and have got root with amon ra recovery. Still no sd card

Left battery out and card out this afternoon, just come in and plugged in in again expecting another fruitless attempt at fixing it and its working !!!! Don't know what on earth happened but at least I can carry on trying some roms out now.
[Desire General] [armitage]:
With your desire version you can't use cwm 2.5.0.7.

Cause you can't do

anything

with it.

I have a pvt4 erasesize 40k myself and I was searching for the best recovery over the last weeks.

cwm 2.5.1.3 is a possible solution,I definitely could flash cyanogen with it without any problems,but I heard that all version above 2.5.0.7 aren't specifically made for desire and may have problems restoring a nandroid backups.

I now use amon-ra without any problems,already used every wipe function available,made backups and re-flashed them.

So amon-ra 2.0.1 is definitely the way to go...and no,it doesn't need s-off to work.I'm not s-off yet.
[Desire General] danjone5:
Hi, I tried rooting with unrevoked on a BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON and got this like everyone else:

E:can't find MISC:

E:can't mount CACHE:recovery/command

E:can't find MISC:

E:can't mount CACHE:recovery/log

E:can't find MISC:

So then i tried again with am ra and updated clockwork recovery and keep getting this message:

Error: failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?

Can anyone help?

Btw....i've got the super user permission icon in my app drawer but can't do anything with it.
[Desire General] bluelavender:
Yes, S-OFF can be reversed. i personally has undergone the cycle 3 times (S-OFF and ON to and fro) for the sake of experiment ;)

BL
[Desire General] Jakedude2011:
I have been on that road too... I reversed it back with a RUU

wich suited my phone (i went for the radio-match).

Then I rooted with Unrevoke again, (and getting al the e:cant read-errors again)

and then i used Alpharev 1.8 method:

Download the iso from them.

Burn it with imgburn

boot on the cd on your pc

hit enter

follow the onscreen instructions

BEFORE you plug in your phone, MAKE Sure it is fully turned on!

And after that... everything worked perfectly! :-)

BTW I had:

BRAVO PVT4 ship S-ON

hboot-0.93.0001

microp-051d

TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101

radio-5.11.05.27

aug 10 2010, 17:52:18

And used this RUU:

RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.2_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_signed

And now I`m S-OFF

with LeeDrOiD_2.3d_A2SD

And got fully axx to recovery/bacup features

and no E:cant find-errors!