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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] highhacker:
Hi Clem . Just to let you know i tried out your new boot protected beta . It worked all night . of coarse i added calibrate .apk and the sd card fix . this morning the alarm woke me up . an hour later i felt a buz in my pocked and it was rebooting . from there it was a continuous loop to ani boot screen . Vogue 100 . it worked good for a while . I tried all the common fixes like clear the davick and such . seems when i get some programs on it that like data it goes bonkers on vogue . also Scoots new release didn't even mount the sd card even with a patch . so there must be some major change in your phones verse vouge . DZO vouge are working ok as thoughtless rls 17 for vouge . Dont know . ?? just thought i would pass it along ..I didnt have any problems with it last night before i rebooted . I lost some apps and had to reinstall them then i didnt do anything else to it but answer a few call s

Out
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mizad09:
Testing Round NUmber Two

Well i flashed my phone again and install the right update courtesy of mr clemsyn to see how it goes from here till friday:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Your issue is your kernel. Update to the .32 kernel. the .25 kernel by DZO has been deprecated for over a month now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Check your PM, I sent you a link with the latest build with a few fixes in mounting the data partition. I got it installed in my friends Kaiser and seems fine, but unfortunately I could not have it again till Friday. Let me know how it goes. If it works good for you, I'll ask l1q1d to add the options in the next kernel release. Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] highhacker:
No Sir . I am running the newest 32 from atools
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
BETA2 is OUT!! Few changes made in mounting data partition and system partition. Please use l1q1d's 11-29 kernel.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Ah ok. It sounded like you were running dzo's .25 kernel still.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stmasi:
So, is bluetooth working on this build? That's been the issue with all the others I've tried. I can get bluetooth for media playing working, but the other builds simply have not noticed any of my headsets as headset devices, thus they will not work on phone calls. Thanx.

In addition, when attempting to install this one, I get a string of errors. Once I choose the "Quit" option, I'm returned to the loader screen where I see the following:

Failed

Install module for this kernel

Thanx.

Jeez. Nevermind. Forgot to rename the tgz file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
:) LMK how it goes for you. Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] over2land:
Any chance of getting beta 2 hosted at another DL site? 4 shared isn't working for me for some reason.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Goldfingerz:
Making progress ! I got a signal for sometime. I noticed however that my kaiser allways tries to connect to another provider in the netherlands, where I live. I got a tmobile sim and contract but it does not see my provider (wifi and connections, search providers)..It reports a few providers (KPN, BEN, Vodafone but not mine) My kaiser is definitely not locked, ran kaiserunlocker to be shure, but it reported not locked...

So what now!

But: we still are getting ahead with your build en liquid latest kernel !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mizad09:
Testing BETA2

This is an improvement, really awesome, is much faster and smooth, and stable like beta1, tomorrow i let u know how is going on in my kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] over2land:
Ok, got it to download finally, so scratch the other mirror request.

Got it on the phone, seems to be good so far. Will keep you updated.

Edit-

Spoke too soon. Reboot #1 came about because I tried to install the text to speech for the navigation software.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] erc_fuentes:
Hi Clemsyn,

I'm trying out your new build and I've only had one reboot thus far after installing an app from market. My only real complaint is that on my kaiser, when clicking the clock app, the numbers are cut off.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Grandelama:
I got some kind of data corruption after first reboot+data backup on beta2.

Two widget (and relative apps on the menu) disappeared and system was unstable.

Reboot+clear dalvik+fix perm. didn't solve unstability (auto reboot).

I will try to install everything again.

Just for the record, on beta1 I have been stable for 2 days. I got stuck in some kind of a reboot loop after the dialer froze once, and I restored data to solve.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Thanks, just a few questions. Are you Overclocked? Did you install 5 apps at a time and reboot? LMK.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Hi... here is what I did...

1) Installed Beta2

2) After first boot synced with Google after setting up APN

3) Rebooted again

4) Installed Trillian from SD

5) Installed iGo from SD

6) Installed Facebook fromSD

7) Installed Dolphin HD from SD

8) Rebooted and backed up data

After succesfull boot I can see the same behaviour as with Scooters..

1) Boots correctly and display home screen

2) it even coonects to gmail, cause I got notification about new mail

3) Frozen for about 10 sec.

4) rebooted within Busybox - animation

would you say that I should reboot after each app to be installed? I would really appreciate stability and I am entusiastic to any help I can provide.. just tell me what you need ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Grandelama:
No CPU overclock, only GPU OC through atools.

I installed 5 apps, but I'm noticing that the system autoupdates a couple of other apps as well. I will try to install all the apps in smaller groups and let you know how it goes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mizad09:
17 hours testing BETA 2

well this is my update for BETA 2, everything is working great i have installed new version of fancy widget from sd card because the one included in the build is broken in landscape mode, so i haver two phones using this beta my at&t8925 and a friend's at&t8900, sorry for ****ty english and lot of love from colombia.

PS: my friend is very happy with this build, he forget winmo now for good just like me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] erc_fuentes:
I've also noticed that fancy widget displays incorrectly on landscape mode. However, this can also be fixed by using the latest version of ADW launcher.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mizad09:
i downloaded the .apk of the new vesrion from here is very cool

http://www.4shared.com/file/17FwFiad/Fancy_Widget_v202.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] albertorodast2007:
Que vivan los latinos!! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Yeah these kaiser definately cannot handle installing 5 apps at once. Even 3 at 1 time is pushing it lol. For ****s and giggles awhile back I went on a download rampage and downloaded 30 apps at once. It actually kept the download part going. The only part that stopped it at was the installation part.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mizad09:
Que Vivan carajo

Si señor, que vivan, yo estoy en Barranquilla Colombia y tu??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] albertorodast2007:
n la capital d mi bella guatemala!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Well.. I tried otherwice... I installed one app per reboot... ended in reboot loop after fourth... so it is quite not matter... and even.. I had them on SD, no downloads from Market...

But it seems to me, that there are more things in play... like... what about Droid thinking, that my battery is weak even if battery driver says it is half full? could that push it into reboots?

Or what else can? I had it on the cord for all night, everything wokred like charm, even with some apps installed... and thed after going to work... damn elevator is one wonderful piece of Faraday's Chest, so no signal inside... when I walked out of that, the phone hanged and rebooted on trying to get access to data again...

Perhaps we just overlook something...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mizad09:
CPU Underclock

well im testing something i had undeclocked my kaiser with rogue tools to 300 mhz, is this bad for my cellphone?? i did this because the stability and fastness of the build to see if it runs ok and if i can save battery:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Grandelama:
Same here, I installed 3 cabs at a time but I still got into a reboot loop after 3 reboots.

I have the impression that beta1 was more stable for whatever reason, but maybe it is just an impression.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mizad09:
CPU Underclock

Sorry for the repost
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] albertorodast2007:
@ mizad09

it wont do any harm to ur kaiser if that's what worries u, underclocking will save some batt but im kinda sure it will bring u some other problems

white screens and home lockups occur due to the lack of CPU and RAM power of our oldtimers so... my two cents: if u want a more stable system leave it at stock speed (actually qualcomm made it for this speed for some reason right?) or dont go above 450, i'm pretty fine running at 450, its a good balance between batt consumption, stability and speed....

and the reason recent builds are unstable is due more to unclean mounts and /data gettin corrupted than ocing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Anyway... this "reboot issue" is accros the builds, so it should not be (IMHO) posted within build thread... we should point it out of the build (kernel?), because it is the same on Froyo/CM builds... what do you think?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Please be patient. I've been exploring different ways on mounting the data partition. Being odexed apk's definitely help for my kaiser. There are quite a few options in mounting the data partitions so it will take time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
If you'd need any help on testing side, than I am in ;) Just let me know what to do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vaupunkt:
had the beta 1 in use for 3 days, and it was very stable and fast.

but now it got into rebooting all the time. i'm going to try beta 2 now! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] over2land:
Ok, now that I'm where I have cell signal and can mess around (I was previously on wifi) I have a couple observations/questions with this build.

1) I have no data at all. I can't connect to the internet or weather, etc. Am I missing a setting somewhere?

2) The phone won't recognize my Jawbone after they have both been charging unless I shut bluetooth off and then turn it back on again. The couple android builds I had on the phone all do that. Is that an android thing, or a port to a windows phone thing?

3) I live where there is no cell coverage, so when I go home I forward the phone to my home phone. When I get back where there is cell coverage, I unforward it. Again, this is something that all the Android builds I've tried had issues with. On WinMo, to unforward, it would go and retrieve the settings from the network, show you the number it was forwarded to and allow you to unforward. On Android I have to manually put in a phone number. If I don't, after selecting the "disable" under the "always forward" selection I get an error that says "your network doesn't allow no forwarding". At which point I remember I have to put in a phone number so it will let me un forward. Again, is this an android characteristic or just a result of the port?

Aside from those three things, since yesterday's reboot the phone has been solid (knock on wood)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Thanks. I'll send you a link for an androidupdate.tgz and just update it. I'll compare the results.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Thanks for everyone who test my builds. I appreciate your inputs. Uploading beta3 now :)

Here are the following changes I made

1. Added automatic deodex for app files in data partition

2. Changes made in some files in the build.

3. Mount option changed for all partitions and added some extra option for data partition

You can now install all your apps before restarting.

Here is the link.

http://www.4shared.com/file/yDdKUQcL/androidinstall_8.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] over2land:
Clem-

Just downloaded the -8 (Beta 3). Still loads fine for me, but unfortunately still no data connection.

On edit, I got to suspecting the radio so I flashed back to WinMo and checked. I'm running 1.70.19.09
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Goldfingerz:
Same here! As soon as it's trying to connect it boots again. It stays stable on airplane mode, at least it boots normally en stays responsive.

I'm convinced this is a kernel-related problem..but I will not try to make that point in the thread of liquid, I got burned for being a noob etc etc...... I''l wait......and stay here for a while :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
BTW: Please add Terminal Emulator into your rom so I can Logcat all what I do from start... Thanx...

(I'll install it from SD Card now...)

Anyway... if you unmount SD and then put it back again it is mounted automatically and correctly, but this time not under /sdcard but /mnt/sdcard

Can you check that behaviour?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Instructions on how to install beta 3 is on the first post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] over2land:
Mine doesn't even try to connect and I tried it on every kernel release in November too. I updated it with the update file from l1q1d and no matter what no data. I did beta 2 and beta 3 with same results.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] drfno1:
Followed your page 1 instructions. Worked perfect on wifi and tmobile data after all apps were loded and script run. Played around for ~5 min. After reboot/clear/quit then the automatic reboots started
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Thanks for testing it. Looks like beta 1 mounting options are the best (which is the default mounting option anyways). Do you know how much space was left on your data partition after installation?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
According to the Log I put to other thread it seems that it is conflict between RIL and Radio... I'll try to test other radios to see if it would behave better. If not, than we have a big issue, cause there is noone that would be able to understand, what to do with RIL code :(

We should start to take a look and study that code...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] drfno1:
Sorry I did not check the full load. I just

reinstalled

and tried 2 apps downloaded from market did not run script. Same thing after reboot/clear/quit
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Actually you would be incorrect in saying none of us know anything about the RIL. We are using a custom built RIL currently but work is being done to get the actual HTC built RIL to run. If I remember we have the HTC RIL working with phone but no data yet but there are discussions about getting data working. So don't lose hope if there are issues with the RIL. It was a hack job back in the summer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
I agree, I was able to run htc ril but no data connection. I informed scooter on how to modify the build to get it to run and he was also able to get it going. If we only have someone good in binary to hack our way in the RIL we might be able to get data working too :) and get a more stable system.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
God hates me. Honest.

Followed all instructions. Installed bunch of apps from market.. runned script... rebooted.

Was greeted by a gmail error.

Guess which apps disapered ? Yep... Market and Terminal. God hates me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
LOL! Try rebooting again, yaffs has a funny way of fixing stuff. I'll just stay on beta1 mounting then. It seems more better than 2 and 3
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
I almost would've called them attempts or something other than subsequently higher beta's lol. But yeah beta 1 did seem a bit better in stability from my testing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Grandelama:
Is it normal that every time I clear dalvik cache I lose every widget and link on my homescreens or is it another sign of data corruption?

Anyway tried a couple of times but after odexing apps I still enter in freeze+reboot cycles after first reboot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
i've the same problem like Grandelama... after the first reboot my kaiser get in a endless reboot loop. after a few tests i found out that the reboots must have some thing to do with the inet connection wifi or 3g. when i reboot with wlan on i get the endless loop and if i turn 3g on while i'm running the system my kaiser reboot again...

sorry for my bad english! i'll test the scoot image now perhaps it works better with my kaiser

HTC Kaiser

Radio 1.70.19.09

Kernel 2.6.32
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Just an update..I've have tested different types of mounts in the data partition and seems like some data corruption exists regardless...I used beta1 extensively and had it running for 37hrs straight with no data corruption. Then I play some music and after 2 songs it freaking reboots! All apps were still in the launcher, widgets were complete but when I try to turn it off by pressing the power button, I only have "Power Off" as an option. So in my opinion, if you want to use 2.6.32, maybe an SD install of data partition is the best but I want a stable version that would run for weeks...I think I'm going back to 2.6.25 kernel for testing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] noside12123:
Man, Endless reboot loop for me with the first release.... WHY D: I used to use VaniljEclair for 3 months with no problems at all. Why is it just now that we get even more problems with android D: I'm switching back to Winmo for now.......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] albertorodast2007:
what i understand is that each time we power off our old timers, some important system data is left over the dalvic cache (bcause of the unclean unmount i asume??) and when u clear it the system cant access it on the next reboot... its just like when u dont use the "safe removal" option over windows and the system is currently reading or writing to the pendrive or flashcard....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
I don't think that's the point. /data must have something like a cache... where data is loaded to ram to faster access. Periodicaly, it should be written on /data, but with a unclean/forced unmount, it probably isn't.

Yet your comparision with windows "Hard drive Policy" must be correct.

Its actually Rapid removal (read, direct write to drive) VS Best speed (read, write to cache, later to drive)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] albertorodast2007:
yeah that's the best comparation!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Yep, just like the write back cache hard drives use in windows.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Matthirst:
Hey guys, got a little question i hope you can answer!

I'm after the clock/weather widget in this screenshot from the Shadowfrost theme

I've seen it in a few places.

I understand the clock is the simi clock and the weather is fancy widgets (which i have both) but i'm not sure how to get them looking like they do in the above screeny.

When i try and apply a skin to the fancy widgets 4x1, it doesn't seem to take affect and just looks like it did to start with.

Also, how do you get the long line to part through both widgets? I know you can stretch the simi clock down but it won't let me use the same line to seperate the fancy widget.

Thanks in advance

Matt :)
[Desire Themes and Apps] hess55:
you need luncher pro (you can change widget`s size) , place simi clock on the same end, and just stretch over other widgets
[Desire Themes and Apps] Matthirst:
Thanks for the reply. I've already tried doing that but it won't let me because the widgets will conflict with each other, won't let me overlap them.

Also, does anyone know why when I apply a skin to beautiful widgets weather, it doesn't work, it just remains the same.
[Desire Themes and Apps] wyd4:
This shouldnt be the case with Launcher Pro.

If you can setup all of your widgets on the screen, while leaving enough space for the clock widget in its default size you should be fine. As all you do then is press, hold and release the clock widget the stretch it over the other widgets.

The only problem you will run into is then if you wish to manipulate one of the other widgets or the clock widget its self you will have to either remove the clock widget entirely first, or drag it to an empty screen, resize it and drag it back once you have made the required changes.

Hope this helps, was probably written in half jibberish.
[Desire Themes and Apps] zHk3R:
Check my signature.

Oh and make sure your SD card is mounted. All Beautiful skins are downloaded to your SD card, so if it's unmounted you'll be stuck with the standard skin.
[Desire Themes and Apps] Matthirst:
Thanks again guys, managed to sort it.

For some strange reason i thought i was already using LauncherPro (got the Ultimate Droid rom). Bought LauncherPro Plus and it worked straight away :)

Thanks again!

Matt
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flow214:
How do I get rid of an app that I have accidently placed in the middle of the dock (right where the app menu shortcut icon was). I was trying to delete an app and whilst dragging it down, it replaced the app menu shortcut. Now i can't access the app menu.
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] texaslittleangel:
Intentaste apagar el tekefono y volver a encenderlo? Hay veces y se queda atorada/congelada la imagen... si tu problema continua t puedo ayudar a traducir tu post :-)

Lo otro... Quieres borrar la applicacion o solo el icono?
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flow214:
lo q quiero es sacarlo de ahy ese icon ya q no puedo entrar al menu de mis aplicasiones sabes q vieen fabrica con el icon del haser llamadas y el de internet y ene l medio donde habres el menu ps puse un icon sin kerer ahy y ahora le doy y habre la apliocasion hahahahahaa
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] texaslittleangel:
Has intentado mantener oprimido el icono volverlo a subir a la pantalla e oprimirlo nuevamente para desecharlo en el cesto?

De casualidad no hiciste un nandroid back-up de tu telefono?

Dale copy paste a lo siguiente en tu post principal:

How do I get rid of an app that I have accidently placed in the middle of the dock (right where the app menu shortcut icon was). I was trying to delete an app and whilst dragging it down, it replaced the app menu shortcut. Now i can't access the app menu.
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flow214:
siii hise de todo y nada no sale lolz
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flow214:
muchas gracias por la ayuda hermano tienes facebook o algo bro
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guitarist5122:
I wish you two would type in english. this is an english speaking community (and many other languages im sure) and i cant understand if your problem has been solved if its not in english
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acejoker25000:
Pretty sure its been solved LOL but I do agree! Isn't one of the rules to post in English or at least engrish LOL