yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 3rdcoast:
So if you and the other fella/gal are so happy then why flash?

Many of us are not satisfied for many reasons. Of course some are just flashaholics and never satisfied but many are fed up with this device. Some people are happy based on their usage style or just lucky to have one that works as designed. Mine was crap for many of the reasons stated including a total brick during the first week. The second phone bricked (sd corruption) but at least this one had a working download mode (if yours doesn't have this then it is broken) and I could start over. This was all before I ever considered flashing.

I gave up waiting. This is a tool for me and not a toy. I've now flashed and it is much much better. Your mileage may vary but mine is much improved. I'll never get suckered into a Samsung again or any device that I haven't researched for a longer period of time.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] HollowSoulz:
Problems and fears with SGS?

Honestly I've had not problem flashing even with odin! I have had the good fortune to have a good SGS and should it fail so be it. Smartphones are truly meant to be a tool to use and as such can be upgraded or tweaked! So before you go complaining about how Odin or whatever you flashed to your phone wrecked it make sure you have some idea as to what you are getting into nothing is ever a perfect science!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Samdroid_G_S:
You flashed docs rom through odin?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Samdroid_G_S:
This makes no sence. Every phone dies for a reason, mostly user error or a shoty sd card.

Your baseing your opinion off a poll where the majority of people flash or apply a lagfix so of course its gonna look like odin/cwm is the cause.

If odin corrupts your sd card im sure kies is gonna corrupt it to, better to be ahead of the game and find out if your sd card is bad now cause once froyo is released through kies for the i9000m its gonna be one hell of a wait for a replacement.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] HollowSoulz:
Kies a Joke!

To be quite frank Kies is one heck of a joke for software slow as heck on the pc i would much rather use Odin or any other program for that matter. I for one am glad I didn't wait for Samsung to release froyo to us here in canada. Would rather have my SD card fail due to flashing on my own using Odin than Kies which is more certain in my opinion to screw up the phone! I really like the fact that Doc and all the others around here work their tails off to help us with these so called issues.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] C.Flat:
I just realized I'm in the wrong thread...

No, I flashed the other Froyo JK3 that's on this site. It worked great for 5 hours and then died.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=845558
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 3rdcoast:
But you'd still be wrong in your assumptions. The 'other' one is very similar and I assure you that a 5 hour lifespan isn't the norm. But if as suggested, you were happy then why flash at all? The tools all work but inevitably it can go wrong. So if the official update done the official way fails will we say that we should never consider doing an update? Sorry, this device was broken before it left the factory so I took the risk and am glad I did.

I'll predict that there will be a tidal wave of regular users that never heard about these dev roms stampeding the Bell/Rogers offices because of brickage while trying to do the official update. The luckier ones will never get that damn kies app to work. The luckiest will get their update and love it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tylerham:
Regular users already have problems without updating anything.

The I9000M just has a problem.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 3rdcoast:
True enough and is why I'm here...

Let me clarify, the rest of the users that haven't noticed yet.

Likely haven't installed an app, use the Sammy UI and no google goodness, never turned on the GPS, and use it like the phone they've had for 10 years. *Some* of those users will get their surprise.......

I'm thankful to have this rom and if it only buys me a month of usefulness before the next/official rom then it was worth doing. But I'm not so sure that we'll see that official rom so soon or that users not running it on Bell will get it proper. Meanwhile I can actually use the phone and stop SIMming up the old HTC on important days just to be sure it would perform.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] pr0cs:
QFT.

I will admit that I used Odin even though the initial data suggests that doing so is taking risks into your own hands.

I haven't had a problem yet (by typing this I've probably doomed myself however :D)

I was relatively happy with Bell's stock 2.1 but found that I wanted something different, and wanted to learn a little how to modify my device.

After doing a lot of reading I don't think I'll ever go back to using Kies. Right now I have a fully working device, for the most part just the way I like it. Probably in a few months I will start all over again looking for the next ROM but for now I'm happy where I am.

To be honest, you can do 80% of the modification of your device WITHOUT using Odin at all, I only used Odin to get the newest Bell modem onto the phone so I could get back the 850 band, otherwise I would have my current setup with no Odin use at all.

Even when the 'official' rom comes out I doubt I'll be changing, unless by some miracle Bell/Samsung manage to out-do the myriad of ROM choices on this forum.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 3rdcoast:
I haven't had problems with Odin either but am happier with recovery mode installs like this one. More like the HTC. Kies on the other hand is the devil himself. Unbelievably rotten crap, worst app I've seen for 10 years at least. That alone gives me pause to ever buy Samsung again. The problems with this device overall makes me certain I'll never buy one again even though right now it is working fine thanks to roms like this one.

Back when we all thought that the 2.2 was being pushed out I fought kies for far too long just to get the upgrade. I wouldn't have put up with that nonsense but this phone needed a fix so bad I was willing to do it. But then we all know that we still can't get the official upgrade.

I was determined to get the official update because getting a replacement here after 14 days is very difficult if you buy it outright and do 'terrible' things such as unlock it to run on a non Bell network. I couldn't take it any longer, I was using my HTC Magic more often than the SGS. So I researched the jungle of roms and am glad I have this rom flashed up. I'll not be doing the official update, it won't take long to get a better rom around here. It isn't perfect but is much more useable than what it came with. I think I'd be taking a bigger risk trying to push a kies update of the official rom than any odin or recovery mode flash.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Mortify1:
I switched from the iPhone 3GS to this device and have loved it so far, I'm addicted to modifying my devices (Obviously my iPhone was jailbroken lol), Switching to Android and not having the newest OS peev'd me off so I luckily found this forum with these great ROMs and this ROM is my new favorite, I think I will be sticking to updating from now on. Thanks Doc!

Also.. I hate Kies, useless for the most part. the only thing I use it for is my contacts backup LOL.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 3rdcoast:
welcome to the 'dark side'. If the iStuff is the JesusPhone then this is the HippyPhone. :p

But if you're using kies for contact syncing then 'you're holding it wrong' :D All of your contacts are sync'd with gmail where you can export and fiddle and backup all you want. (Tip: do any major contacts work from a computer gmail browser and it syncs up with the phone within seconds). If you login on your next android phone you'll instantly have your contact list back without touching a sync app. To me kies is *only* for updating official roms and I doubt that I'll ever be doing that.

oh, and thanks doc, keep up the good work. I nearly sold my SGS until I found this rom.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DocRambone:
i will make an update after weekend. Report bugs and i maybe can get them fixed for next release
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
Can we keep this thread on topic, not fun reading through all this "anti-flashing" talk here.

Sent from a Bell I9000m running a Doc rom. (XDA app)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] omnicronx:
I dont agree. That poll is no different then going to a star trek convention and polling people as to whether not they like star trek.

Any investigation being done on XDA in terms of what is making these phones die is very bias, as we do not have the proper control (i.e as many users not flashing their phones) to compare it too.

This is a known issue for bell in particular, I was warned by the call center rep when I upgraded my phone, and also in store when I was buying it. Its not limited to those flashing their phones. Though increased usage due to flashing could easily speed up the process of breaking what is probably an already damaged SD card.

Chances are, if your phone died as a result of flashing, it would have died down the line anyways. You are merely speeding up the inevitable..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mem22:
I'm not sure if it's a bug or not but since I flashed 1.1 the shortcut for Opera won't stay on my home screen.

I've flashed 1.2 with the AOSP lock and theme.

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] thedauntlessone:
Does speedmod kernel in docrom come with backlight notification? How do I use it?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=822756

edit: and this...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=823922&highlight=backlight
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Hakkaboy:
just as i suspected, doing a factory reset semi-bricked my phone, so not sure if this considered as a "bug"

first time was when i was on 1.0 and doing factory wipe via in CWM

second time was when i just flashed a fresh install of 1.2 and when i entered the wrong email account as my first initial account, i wanted to to delete that account and the phone instructed me to do a "Factory data reset" under Settings>Privacy.

No lagfix was ever applied and i always press disable lagfix after i flash doc's rom anyways

Other than that, 1.0 and 1.2 works very well for me, a a reflash to stock via odin(download mode) fixed it for me
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] donkeyhitman:
We Canadians are left with crappy Samsung phones

The issue should not be about whether we should or shouldnt flash unofficial firmwares. Users from other continents are flashing unofficial firmwares left and right and you dont see sdcard corruption as a big issue like ours.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] wang1chung:
going to have to agree with you 100%..........aside from the rare cases, i have corrupted my sdcard within 2 days of getting it back from repair (of an sdcard corrupted) with this rom, and i didn't have more than 5 apps installed. luckily, it was mmcblk0p1 busy (not "not found"), so it was recoverable with a jh2 flash.

whether it's a software issue or not, most phones (including mine) have been repaired via flashing (phone#1). so, there has to be a way to prevent this from happening.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
Day 2 Doc... running excellent still and crazy fast without a lagfix. I think this may be "the" winner.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] phzi:
Loving this barebone rom; thank-you doc.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
UGJK3_v1_STOCK_lockscreen_extended_power_menu.zip

Just built the STOCK lockscreen with the Extended Power Menu.

UGJK3_v1_STOCK_lockscreen_extended_power_menu.zip

edit: my first file mod, working for me nicely but all the standard common sense rules apply ;)

Credits go to Doc of course and Idan73 for the AOSP version that I modded and jjwa for the "how to" instructions.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Idan73:
finally someone else that steps up. proud of you. :D

currently deserted to Doc BUJP8 v9 with our modem so i guess ill be making extended menu for that soon and i expect you to do the same there lol.

deal???

can someone get latest I9000UGJK3 dated 25/11 so doc can work his magic and see if they fixed what some describe as gps problem (after extensive testing i conclude that theres no 'real gps' issue but rather 'tower triangulation' issue with network based positioning which slows initial lock as agps is based of that as well. posted more bout this in stock rom thread).

surely it is better as bell is known to release upgrades while keeping the rom name the same (only build date tells the story).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] 3rdcoast:
Noticed this myself. After seeing a much improved GPS with the first JK3 it is now very slow to lock again.

This always causes confusion and grief. They hand out the latest phones with JH2 and then fix a serious issue like the recovery mode but still call it JH2 making an already horrible kies experience worse and even dangerous. ugg, too many screwups with this device. I wouldn't have one at all if it wasn't for these 'side loaded' roms.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Idan73:
heh i dont think i would have any smartphone if i couldnt mess around with it.

would still have to have dumbphone for business purposes.

but really any smartphone no matter the specs, locked down, unrootable, unhackable, unjailbreakable, whatever the terminology for specific os although it means the same, has no appeal to me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Idan73:
@doc

here is the latest adw! if you can include in next release. tested extensively and i like. like a lot. :D

nothing major today. newbies with corrupted sdcard are thinning out.

even though i defected to BUJP8 v9 (amazing rom but strange battery drain even with bell modem which works great otherwise. therefore not the cause. fastest i ever used on this phone. maybe thats the cause :confused: no matter. i like) i will still continue to help out here as well. even more so because theres plenty of elfs in your main thread and so few of us here, defending our turf lol.

cant wait for you to wake up tonight. working the weekend again. sucks! vacation in a few weeks so its ok i guess.

side note not related to rom. love the multipicture live wallpaper. S^3 style

thanks everyone who helped out today. good night!

@doc again congrats for passing by a mile (your main thread) all the rom threads in nexus forum, even cm nightly and enomther's. :eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Samdroid_G_S:
Have you modified the launcher in anyway Idan? WOuld I be able to install it just as a apk or does it need to be applied as an update.zip, im on sotck jk3 firmware not doc's "yet".
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Idan73:
no modification from me (just like it in the rom and i believe its a bit faster in a system) allthough i expect doc to optimize it like he did with last one. it is available from market.

but really very smooth for me even with 16bit disabled mode (for transparency) with a bit of tweaking settings and i love extra features in new release.

waiting for doubleclick gesture like zeam and changeable background on the bottom bar (not just froyo style or nothing but user selectable) and ill be in heaven.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Orillian:
Market still broken for me and wifi is terrible, Sitting 3 feet away from the router and nothing connects even though it's showing full bars and the phone thinks everything is fine!

Anyone have any ideas on how to fix either of these issues? I'm a bit reluctant to factory reset again. I did it prior to installing 1.2 and I don't want to lose the apps that doc added.

O.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DocRambone:
God morning...

What what, NEW ROM...!! GIVE IT TO ME !
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
Sure, sounds good. Let me know when were ready as I am too busy still playing with this rom. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] wang1chung:
i take offense to that for a few reasons:

1) i am not a newbie. i have had more than enough experience jtag'ing xbox360's, flashing their dvd drives, moding ps2's, xbox1's, tuning cars, rebuildling engines, etc.

2) i have flashed this rom, followed the instructions, and had the sdcard get corrupted (mmcblk0p1 error). 100% not my fault.

3) the users with the "problem" phones will not flash anymore roms, except what comes through kies, hence WHY there are less reports of corrupted sdcards.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
Bottom line is that your card going bye bye had nothing to do with "this" rom. If you haven't done anything bad then it was going to go no matter what.

Sent from a Bell I9000m running a Doc rom. (XDA app)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] hburn:
I did install doc1.2 but it still show1.1in phone info i never install 1.1... And my backbutton sometime wont workand when this happen home button is taking screenshot...thats what i saw after 12h using doc 1.2 rom ohh and by default internet was not working i had to enter the port number for bell pda apn (only setting that was missing there
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Idan73:
I did not explicitly say that everyone with a dead phone is a newbie and I apologise.

God it almost happened to me the second time, on the third phone. You know what lol. Both those times was my fault, not on purpose of course but I can admit I did not follow procedures.

But the fact is also that not every mmcbl0p1 results in a permanently dead as i can vouch and that number of the phones that hit bell last week did not have to happen.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rhainman:
After buying the phone in August when it was released, all I ever did was apply the voodoo lagfix back in September (via an update.zip). In fact, since I have a Mac and Kies wasn't working on my old XP laptop, I was still running JG9 all this time. I would spend hours reading all these threads about JK3, but then half the posts would be describing how the internal SD was corrupted after flashing, so I was too chicken to risk killing the phone by flashing via Odin. Like pretty much everyone else, my desire to mess around with my phone finally overrode my common sense, so I gingerly upgraded to Doc's JK3 via CWM last night. I did not factory reset and I just cleared the Dalvik cache before beginning the upgrade. The whole thing actually went smoothly, and it's been running fine for more than 12 hours now. I'm still paranoid that whenever I turn it on it'll start FC'ing and then die, but so far so good! The only issue seems to be a faster battery drain than I had on JG9, and my GPS is having trouble with locks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DaveJeep:
I've been running JK3 from Doc for a while now.

GPS doesn't work at all though.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
GPS NOT working here either :(

Sent from a Bell I9000m running a Doc rom. (XDA app)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] hburn:


Thats weird its working for me after 1 or 2 min its 10 meters acuracy
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
I haven't waited 2 min yet.... For me that is useless. What is it with Samsung and the gps, hate to say it but this may be the time for them to talk with Apple and see how it's done.

Sent from a Bell I9000m running a Doc rom. (XDA app)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Samdroid_G_S:
I get 8 in view but only able to lock onto 5 in about 2 minutes. 16 meters accuracy. Im inside my house though. Haven't tested outside.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dawgpound6985:
Have you guys tried flashing the JM9 GPS drivers?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831725&highlight=gps

May help with the GPS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] omnicronx:
Its doing a complete cold start the first time you use the GPS after a flash. You need to go outside and wait a minute or two or it will not work. There does seem to be something wrong with the AGPS but I'm still getting locks within 30 seconds after the first time.

edit: I will say the gps is definitely not on par with other devices.. my last two phones locked within 10 seconds and had no problem while navigation. Although I don't think the iPhone is the best example of a good GPS implementation.. my old Palm Pre locked faster..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] wang1chung:
this is the only rom i have flashed since i got my phone back from the repair center, so i don't buy it. there is something distinctively different between the stock jh2 rom (which is 100% stable on my and others phone) and every other rom that i have tried to use without it corrupting my sdcard.

for the guys inquiring about gps, after the initial lock onto 9 satellites, my phone would get a lock within 10 seconds no problem. though i always set it up through the gps menu.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tylerham:
No, people who have only used stock JH2 still have reported corrupted SD cards.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] wang1chung:
i didn't say 100% stable on EVERYONE'S phone, i said mine and others (the majority). yes, according to the survey, like 8% or whatever out of 33% have been on jh2 and had it fail.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tylerham:
Reading through the posts on the thread, many people have wanted to change their vote (myself included) from still working to corrupted, but you can't change votes.

If JH2 from Bell can eventually make the card fail why would any other firmware make this problem worse if we don't even know anything about the problem.

Often, the failures happen shortly after flashing a new ROM, but they can take a couple weeks or more.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] omnicronx:
Correlation != Causation..

You also never flashed your phone since you were using stock. Flashing anything, whether it be stock or a custom rom could result in a bricked phone if there are truly SD card troubles which seems to be the case... The flashing could easily be the tipping point..

Either way there seems to be an issue with the Bell SGS's, plain and simple.. Bell reps know about it, and so do people in the store. If it has reached this kind of awareness, I can pretty much guarantee the problem reaches far beyond the small amount of people flashing their phones. (remember us flashers are a fraction of the total userbase)

edit: I'm also going to guess that the hysteria surrounding the issues has caused people to prematurely bring in their phones to be fixed, when SD corruption was not truly the issue.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Samdroid_G_S:
It wont mater which way the phone is flashed , theres been users who have flashed through cwm and users who have flashed through odin and users who have flashed through kies who have had there sd cards fail.

JK3 is ment for the i9000m and even it is killing sd's.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] BlackDino:
I am on my third brand new sgs, samsung has done nothing in their latest batch to fix the issues.

As fit doc's rom I have had it installed for just over a week and my sd corrupted. Never missed any steps.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Idan73:
Do you not see the correlation here?

If theres 8 percent here in a forum dedicated to flashing what about the real world where they never heard of word firmware? Number must be huge.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
Dont know what to tell ya, I've flashed a bunch of roms and more mods that I can shake a stick at, knock on wood no issues so far.

Sent from a Bell I9000m running a Doc rom. (XDA app)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
and again..... We're clogging up this ROM thread with phone issues. We already have a thread for that. Can we not keep this thread for specific content to Docs rom?

Sent from a Bell I9000m running a Doc rom. (XDA app)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] opensourcefan:
Tried GPS outside for 5 full minutes, found 5 sats and 0 fixes. :(