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[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
VZW is cranking out their LTE in a pretty amazing pace. They say they will be in 140+ more markets this year than they were in 2010 with these 49 lighting up Q1-Q2 of this year.

Huntsville, Alabama

Mobile, Alabama

Montgomery, Alabama

Little Rock, Arkansas

Colorado Springs, Colorado

Gainesville, Florida

Lakeland-Winter Haven, Florida

Pensacola, Florida

Sarasota-Bradenton, Florida

Tallahassee, Florida

Augusta, Georgia

Honolulu, Hawaii

Kahului-Wailuku, Hawaii

Lahaina, Hawaii

Boise-Nampa, Idaho

Carbondale-Marion, Illinois

Wichita, Kansas

Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Hammond, Louisiana

Detroit, Michigan

Flint, Michigan

Fayetteville-Lumberton, North Carolina

Greensboro-Winston-Salem-High Point, North Carolina

Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina

Wilmington, North Carolina

Dayton-Springfield, Ohio

Tulsa, Oklahoma

Erie, Pennsylvania

State College, Pennsylvania

Charleston, South Carolina

Columbia, South Carolina

Greenville-Spartanburg, South Carolina

Hilton Head, South Carolina

Sioux Falls, South Dakota

Chattanooga, Tennessee

Clarksville, Tennessee

Cleveland, Tennessee

Kingsport, Tennessee; Johnson City, Tennessee; Bristol, Virginia/Tennessee

Knoxville, Tennessee

Memphis, Tennessee

Beaumont-Port Arthur, Texas

Bryan-College Station, Texas

Provo-Orem, Utah

Salt Lake City-Ogden, Utah

Centralia, Washington

Olympia, Washington

Charleston, West Virginia

Madison, Wisconsin

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
Yeah you are missing the fact that not all of detroit looks like that, the city is not just full of poor people, and its covering more than just the city of detroit. South east michigan contains around half of the entire states population, detroit is the headquarters of gm and dearborn is the world headquarters of ford motor company.
[EVO 4G General] jc8081:
Did u not see the superbowl commercial?
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
You have obviously never been to the Detroit area. Don't worry though, most people around the world have the exact same impression of Detroit. In reality, Detroit proper is a dump. 99% of people in the city of Detroit don't even have Sprint, mostly Metropcs and Boost Mobile. The are surrounding the city is nice, and where everyone actually lives and works.
[EVO 4G General] bsmoove386:
I'll admit I have a love hate relationship for Detroit and i stay downtown, but I do believe Detroit is a city that is going to fight to come back. Even besides that fact 4g should be available in the city just due to the fact that even if there are plenty of metro pcs and boost mobile users there are still a lot of sprint customers w/ Evo and Epic especially among the age demographic of 21-30. Also there are plenty of young subscribers with verizon n tmobile that would not mind coming to Sprint, but they feel sprint has a ****ty network and will not pay for a 4g phone when there is no 4g network( however they love the Evo).

Also, look this is up surrounding Detroit are macomb and oakland counties, which are one of the top richest counties in the nation. Yes look it up you'll be surprised. If sprint would have been on their A game they could have had a resourceful bunch of new customers. But now they are going to lose the Detroit Market if they do not bring 4g by this spring.
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
A couple smartphone buddies of mine have jumped ship to verizon. They are people like me who bought a 4g phone almost a year ago now, and are pissed.

the last I heard was some time in March for us to have 4g. But they also said October, then December.
[EVO 4G General] detcup4evr:
I Understand the pain of living in a verizon 4g zone (detroit area) but why join verizon now, they should wait until verizon at least has a phone that can connect. Did they get the year old iphone?
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
I'm not sure yet. I think they are standing in line for the Thunderbolt. They were ribbing me about it on the Facebook.

I still turn the 4g antenna on every day waiting for it to work.
[EVO 4G General] ballindroid:
There is still no 4g in the D. Even though we are one of the biggest city's in the US. We deserve 4g more than anyone!
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
Wow, more low blows for detroit. Looks like 4g in benton harbor, kalamazoo, and port huron. This is really frustrating me.
[EVO 4G General] bsmoove386:
Are you serous? They have 4g? Flint and Grand Rapids have 4g as well.
[EVO 4G General] billdozer357:
Flint does not have 4G.
[EVO 4G General] souleman:
Check the maps at Clear (or the Got Clear?) app. They show "better" coverage then the sprint maps.

Parts of Flint have 4G coverage. On 475, I have 4G in town (like from Court street exit to just south of Saginaw st.). Just got the Evo, so haven't had a chance to really test it out, since I live outside the covered area. But it has gotten almost twice as big in the last month since I started checking on it.
[EVO 4G General] billdozer357:
Good to know. Guess I'll have to drop Warm Z and go to a rom that supports 4g
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
Port huron huh? Dammit! I'm only a short drive down the road in Chesterfield! I know they had a test tower running at 23 mile and I94.
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
I just got off the phone with Sprint. They say that metro Detroit WILL have 4G service in 60 days or less. Like we haven't heard that song before. I then asked about canceling my contract and moving to verizon if they are full of **** again. $100 to cancel my "premier" account if it comes to that. I certainly hope it doesn't! I love my EVO.
[EVO 4G General] NiMiNuM:
I live in Houston and have above average coverage and will honestly tell you I never use it. Why? Sprints 4G sucks. Spotty signal, web pages most of the time never fully load, poor building penetration and so on. Believe me dude your not missing out. If sprint doesn't come out with LTE soon I will gladly pay an extra $20-30 dollars extra for Verizon's unlimited plan. I know I know Verizon might be throttling data starting this summer, that's why we gotta sign the 1 year contract before it goes into effect. Then when sprint gets LTE after 1 year I'll be back
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
They are really dropping the ball. Almost a year now with the super 4g phone that still has no 4g service.

I used my phone on 4g in miami and it was pretty sweet. I don't really care if verizons 4g is faster either. 4 meg down is fine with me.
[EVO 4G General] Face58313:
There is 4G in and around the Wayne State area
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
Really? The college must be supplying it? I'll have to check that out.
[EVO 4G General] davpel:
I work a few blocks away in the New Center area and have never seen it. Maybe I'll take a walk down there on Monday at lunch and give it a try.
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
http://sensorly.com/Map/4G/USA/Sprint/wimax-sp#q=detroit

Looks like a start anyway.
[EVO 4G General] lugnuttz:
Next time im down in Detroit I'm gonna give it a try. Exciting to see some sort of progress
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
Sensorly shows a lot of 4g coverage in Detroit. However, it sucks. I scanned from New Baltimore to downtown, right by Woodward and Jefferson. It connected for maybe two miles of freeway at I75 and Clay. No service downtown. I'm going to drive up Woodward from downtown later and check it out again.
[EVO 4G General] davpel:
I'm about in the New Center area about a mile away from Wayne State (W. Grand Blvd and Woodward) and can confirm a 4G signal. Got 4.00 mbps down, but only 0.42 up on 4g, but better than my 3G test which was 2.88 down and .35 up. My 4G signal strength was excellent -- all bars. The 4G signal completely died for a few minutes, than came back to life, so I imagine it is being worked on as we speak.
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
Certainly better than what we had a week ago!
[EVO 4G General] wingzfan:
Hmm sensorly shows 4g about a mile from my house. May need to take an early lunch and take a trip to warren.
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
Hey wingzfan, I checked down 8 mile in warren this morning and got zilch.
[EVO 4G General] Buff McBigstuff:
I believe the 4g is centered around Wayne State. I have full signal when i'm on campus and along the freeways nearest campus, 94 btw 96 and 75, 75 btw mack and 94, 10 btw grand river and 94. Those are based on my travels yesterday and today. I went to school today and to Allen Park yesterday. I saw speeds between 2.5 and 8 down and looks like the upload is capped at 1 just like for everybody else in America.
[EVO 4G General] ao7996:
Turned on 4g near I-96 and Farmington rd (Livonia) and no signal here yet. But being 20 or so miles from WSU, I wouldn't expect it here
[EVO 4G General] StartingLine:
I told a friend i work with to check 8 mile where it looks like there might be 4G. he said he didn't get anything yet between Ryan and Dequindre.
[EVO 4G General] issafram:
yea boi! gonna try it out at work tomorrow in the D

http://plixi.com/p/85909740
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
It worked on woodward at I75 downtown up to about 6 mile and woodward yesterday. It did not stay on to ferndale like sensorly showed. I also had a blip of 4g at 8 mile and Mound. Sensorly also shows 4g on Jefferson downtown at the Reinissance center, but I got nothing this morning.
[EVO 4G General] searcher61:
At the GM tech center in Warren. I have connected to 4g a couple of times... lasted a few minutes. Enough to get to a couple web pages...then it's gone. Seems like they are still testing...Been like this the last few days.
[EVO 4G General] hcavlnch:
4G on I-96 between 94 and 75

I just connected this morning for about a 1/2 mile or so in stop and go traffic on I-96 between 94 and 75. I took some speed tests which i posted below. As soon as I got close to 75 it dropped. 2 of the speedtests are with Wi-Max and then the other 2 slow ones are on 3g after Wi-Max dropped off. The speed is pretty good, actually better than I usually get over wifi.
[EVO 4G General] Buff McBigstuff:
Here is a speed test from about a block away from the rumored location of one of the towers.
[EVO 4G General] wingzfan:
Yeah im getting nothing on 8 mile or anywhere around there. Sucks, i was in greektown Friday night and never thought to check
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
4g signal was weak all the way up woodward late this afternoon.
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
What part of Woodward? I walked a couple blocks up Woodward toward the Fox and didn't get anything yesterday. I know it exists, I just have to find it!
[EVO 4G General] Buff McBigstuff:
DL an app called sensorly from the market to help you find it. Its further north, near WSU.
[EVO 4G General] hcavlnch:
Speedtest on Thunderbolt 12 floors up in the middle of Downtown

Wow I'm quite pissed after seeing this speedtest...
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
I call BS on that screenshot. And you need to settle down.
[EVO 4G General] Sportsplayer612:
My brother has been getting roughly 14 megs down and 30 megs up with his verizon. Some say its a glitch in the speed test app and others say there is no cap on the upload speeds so who knows
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
I was joking to deal with the jealousy. :(

It appears that LTE has decent building penetration as well, something I hear Wimax doesn't have much of.
[EVO 4G General] jefbal99:
Building penetration isn't based on the communication type, its based on the spectrum. LTE is running in something like the 700Mhz spectrum which is great building penetration while Sprint/Clear Wimax is running in the 2.something Ghz spectrum that doesn't have good building penetration...
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
You said penetration....lol.
[EVO 4G General] slomo86:
I sit here and read all these posts about 4G back home in Detroit... I am in the Air Force and stationed down in the 2nd largest city in Louisiana, Shreveport. WE JUST GOT 3G like 2 months ago!!! UGH!! :mad:

But from what everyone is saying it sounds just like how they rolled out the 3G here. It was hit or miss sense about christmas.

I guess when I come home I will have a little bit more to look forward to!!! Until then I am gonna love the brand new 3G speeds I have on my EVO... LMFAO
[EVO 4G General] Spiderman313:
Im a transit driver so im definantly going to check this out when on my routes. ( while not driving of course)
[EVO 4G General] duck9191:
well after see this thread i decided to install sensroly to see where was getting coverage in Detroit, and to my suprise it said that was some in the port huron area (about 40mi north of the d). so i fired up the 4g and sure enough it is lit up here. i work for sprint and didnt even have a clue, they are keeping it quite.

yaya its not lte, but it sure beats 3g, and dsl for that matter lol.
[EVO 4G General] archervanadin:
Was driving back from Detroit and went through Dearborn and Ann Arbor and had no 4G coverage.. I left the 4G on and when I hit Grand Rapids I notified me that I had 4G. kinda surprised that Grand Rapids had it and Detroit doesnt especially with Ann Arbor (University of MI) being fairly close.
[EVO 4G General] searcher61:
Well, I can connect to 4G much easier today. Still comes and goes but not as bad as before...and it rates the signal as poor. I used Sensorly and logged it...hopefully it shows up. Chicago Rd and Van Dyke. In the tech center, though I am a couple of floors up.
[EVO 4G General] StartingLine:
Grand Rapids was the first city in MI to have 4G. It's been there a few months now. Too bad i'm just north of Detroit :rolleyes:

The farthest north i see right now is somebody picked it up on 696 between Van Dyke and Mound. And 8 mile picked up a few more spots too.
[EVO 4G General] Sportsplayer612:
Call me crazy but I drove down to 8 mile and mound today just to try 4G out on my EVO. I've been waiting for ever but never willing to drive to Grand Rapids lol. Although I only got roughly 2 megs down and 1 meg up, it was still nice to see the 4G symbol lit up on my phone. Way faster than the 50 kbps I'm getting on 3G right now
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
There has been no formal announcement for 4g in Detroit yet, so we are definitely in the test-n-tune phase. I'm in most of the same areas daily, and my Evo obsessed ass checks while driving constantly. Some days signal is strong, other days it is weak our non-existant. Hopefully it is all squared away by the time I invest in an Evo3d.

Sent from mah SuperEvO..
[EVO 4G General] Spiderman313:
I get a few bars at my house. I'm near 12 and Mound in Warren. Ironically its a Sprint store on the corner. Plus I get a full signal of 4G near Wayne State. ( state hall to be exact). But I've only seen 2mbps down and 1 mbps up.
[EVO 4G General] StartingLine:
Try going to speakeasy dot net and run that speed test. It seems to be alot more acurate compared to the speedtest app we have on our phones.
[EVO 4G General] dski165:
sorry man I heard they were gonna ship Michagan to China along with all the jobs that already left :mad:
[EVO 4G General] nuggyunlimited:
On woodward and the blvd close to wayne I get 6mbps down 1up
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
The map is spreading.....
[EVO 4G General] archervanadin:
This might be completely off topic, but with grand rapids being the only major city in MI to have 4G coverage, has anyone been experiencing problems with coverage in general(calls/data)? Specifically in downtown Grand Rapids? Could it be because they are updating their systems? expanding 4G coverage?
[EVO 4G General] searcher61:
On the Clear.com map it looks like most of detroit and warren have 4g. Checked on way to work but did not find any.

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[EVO 4G General] nuggyunlimited:
I was able to talk and browse perfectly with 4g near wayne state and about a mile east of sixmile and woodward
[EVO 4G General] jefbal99:
clear.com/coverage
[EVO 4G General] youngkalico:
Sprint Need To Get On The Ball

They Really Need To Get It Together Especially Since They Coming Out With The HTC EVO 3D (Another 4G Device) & HTC EVO View (Tab) Thats Also 4G

I Only Tested My 4G Once When I Was in D.C @ The Airport & It Fast They Certain Parts Got Spotty But I Figure It Cause Of The Airport But Detroit We Should Been Had 4G I Stay In Lincoln Park Right Next To Detroit
[EVO 4G General] searcher61:
I mentioned that 2 posts back...

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[EVO 4G General] robert00693:
Sprint started installing 4G on Nextel towers back in 2007, I was a sub contractor for them. I would think they would have more coverage then they do... but the reality is that 4G is a separate network all together with its own antennas and sometimes its own sites. They have been piggybacking off Nextel for a few years now. I know there are a lot of sites with 4G installed just not turned on yet. I hope they hurry up and get it in my area soon, i'm itching to try it!
[EVO 4G General] StartingLine:
there has been more 4G signal picked up around 696/Van Dyke area and south of there within the last few days.
[EVO 4G General] StartingLine:
Clear's map looks very similar to what people's phones have been picking up on Sensorly.
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
Nuggy, what are you doin just east of 6 and Woodward? Lol

Sent from mah SuperEvO..
[EVO 4G General] lugnuttz:
I went to see if I could connect today. Went to VanDyke & 13 mile where it shows available on Sensorly and it would not connect. So I went down to VanDyke and I-696 and again, no connection.

I assume its not actually turned on yet, can anyone confirm that is the case? OR do I have a problem with my phone.
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
I think the clear/sensorly maps are a tad optimistic. There's no 4g at Woodward and Gratiot, of that I'm 100% sure unless they cranked the power up in the past 3 days.
[EVO 4G General] Borg1982:
Using the 4g in downtown Detroit was so great. I cant wait for that feeling of blazing speed when its turned on all over. I'm from Harrison twp.
[EVO 4G General] searcher61:
I am the one that caused the blip at 13 and vandyke. I connected when I was on the second floor of a building at the GM tech ctr. I have been unable to connect from ground level. I think the signal is still too weak.

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[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
I wonder how much of this 4g reporting is done by people running CM7 with broken GPS? :D Might explain why there's so much coverage showing when it doesn't seem to exist in that big of an area.

I'm half tempted to wander the streets at lunch and see what I can find.
[EVO 4G General] nuggyunlimited:
Lol my aunt stay in that area and one of my little brothers go to highland park high.
[EVO 4G General] nuggyunlimited:
That's what I was doing at first then I switched back to my rom which is sense after thinking about it and during me trying to finish my next RLS i happened to check the map and it shows in different areas so I did drive around and tried to see where all I can get a 4g connections the strongest I would say is downtown anywhere else I couldn't get over 2mbps. I would say you can connect to 4g from woodward and 6mile all the way past warren. I was close to city airport and was connecting off and on and near the coney on e 6mile a little past john r it was a low connection and a little east of 8 mile it was a low connection.
[EVO 4G General] searcher61:
That does not explain why clear.com shows it available.

Sent from my secret place where no-one can find me.
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
Yeah but their map shows pretty much the entire downtown Detroit being covered. I can walk out of my building and not get a signal at all despite being in their supposed coverage.

I just think they're being optimistic or showing where it COULD reach if it was cranked up.

I'm going to wander a few blocks around the Woodward/Gratiot area today and see what I find.
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
OK, just took a walk down Woodward from Campus Martius to Comerica Park. I actually got connected at the corner of Woodward and Grand River for just a split second. By the time I got the Speedtest app up, it was gone.

All the way down Woodward, Wimax would say scanning, then connecting, then nothing. I wasn't pulling an IP but it wasn't saying connected either (should it say connected?) I kept turning off Wimax and turning it back on to the same results.

On the way back, I walked down Washington to Grand River and back over to Woodward. No luck at all.

I did manage to drop from 70% battery to 15%. That's really cool. :rolleyes:

Edit: This is on CM7 nightly #31.
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
I bet towers are being turned on and off through their testing and set up. I have yet to connect to 4g in Warren anywhere.
[EVO 4G General] searcher61:
When I look at the Clear.com map, many of the new cities have light green when looking at 4G. But the older cities (ones that have had 4g for awhile) have lots of DARK Green blobs. Do they deploy 2 different types of coverage?
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
Could be testing areas vs live areas?
[EVO 4G General] Buff McBigstuff:
I could connect when I was standing under the marquee at the fox. I also connected at the grand circus park people mover station. You may have just missed it. When I'm at school (WSU) I leave it on all day. It will be connected for 20 or 30 minutes and then it will be down for 10 minutes. No signal no nothing, almost like it never existed.
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
Hmm, I'll try wandering closer to 75 tomorrow. I really want to speed test this but the battery drain I experienced from having the screen + scanning for Wimax was scary.

I did connect today on my way home around 75 and 96. It was brief and I was driving so I couldn't do anything other than verify that I had an IP.
[EVO 4G General] Spiderman313:
I can connect to 4G from my house and I stay in warren. I can stay connected from mound and 696 all the way to the City airport.
[EVO 4G General] issafram:
Me in Detroit

http://plixi.com/p/87593195
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
Where were you?
[EVO 4G General] issafram:
17 floors high up in the RenCen
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
Interesting, I thought I had read that height + being inside a building would play havoc. Maybe there's hope I'll get signal where I'm at.

Did you happen to test it outside? I might walk in the direction of the RenCen at lunch today to see if I can get connected.
[EVO 4G General] eazy1818:
You are quite tall. :cool:
[EVO 4G General] issafram:
Na didn't test outside. Just quick google.com browsing and speedtest. Faster than **** 3g, slower then my cable at home. So its good enough.
[EVO 4G General] Buff McBigstuff:
I tested by the giant fist and got nothing. Maybe him being higher allows the signal to pass over the buildings instead of being blocked by it but I'm just guessing. I heard that the tower was on top of the old School Center building (I forget what WSU calls it now) on Warren and Woodward, again, pure rumor and speculation.
[EVO 4G General] jefbal99:
Light green is "Wimax on the go" meaning that it will only work outdoors. You can't subscribe to their home based service in the light green areas. Dark green is "Wimax Best Coverage" these are cities that Clear/Sprint advertise as live 4G areas and market/sell the home services.
[EVO 4G General] jefbal99:
Has anyone tried the Wimax config changes to connect to weaker signals?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=733773
[EVO 4G General] issafram:
I am right next to a window....still 17 floors up tho
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
I just stood right outside the RenCen and got nothing :(

Kind of cold to be walking around today but I managed to get a signal and an IP at the corner of Woodward and Grand River, just like I thought I did yesterday. This time I could keep the connection and run speed tests but they were rather disappointing.

Fastest download was 1.92mbps (using the Dearborn test site) while upload was worse than 3G. Still, 1.92mbps down felt blazing compared to 3G :D
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
I might try this if I can somehow talk myself into flashing a Sense ROM. I want to test how well a regular Sense ROM will connect vs CM7 anyway.
[EVO 4G General] Rob the plumber:
I just drove down jefferson from cobo to indian village. I connected to zero 4g. I did however fill in some sensorly goodness on Grand River today.
[EVO 4G General] sph33r:
I hope you're using a Sense ROM with working GPS for Sensorly. :D