yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 4G General] Ghost430:
So I wanna get the mytouch 4g. I'm currently one year into my two year contract with tmo with my gravity 2 (phone sucks). I talked to a rep and told me the phone would cost me around $300 since I'm not eligible for a full upgrade. Any way of getting the phone for less thru someone (Wirefly, etc.)?
[myTouch 4G General] esincho:
Nope. The phone $450 without a contract
[myTouch 4G General] cheesefrog:
Switch over to a Family Plan and add the MyTouch as a new line maybe? Then just remove all the features on one of the lines. New lines qualify for the $150 pricing I think.
[myTouch 4G General] jrb1000:
Do some back to back warranty replacements then threaten to cancel your contract if you don't get a new phone. It worked for me, and they sent me a free phone without renewing my contract.
[myTouch 4G General] JWhipple:
A friend of mine just tried that ... He ended up with an LG Optimus... That's the best they would give him.
[myTouch 4G General] Whosdaman:
This is an example of a conversation questions, this will stay in general section.
[myTouch 4G General] jrb1000:
They first tried to get me to upgrade, but I told them it was cheaper to cancel my contact and get a new phone through att. Needless to say they transfered me straight to retention.
[myTouch 4G General] going_home:
Craigslist !

Give it about two weeks and then check Craigslist.

Theres already a brand new in unopened box G2 for $350.00

in my area on C/L. I've seen a couple G2's for $300.00.

The MyTouch 4g will be the same in a couple weeks.

I bought my Nexus on C/L.

:D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dt53444:
i just get the White htc evo couple day. i tried using unrevorked to root but is not working. anyone knowing anything wrong?
[Legend General] pancito:
Hi,

I bought a Legend a couple of weeks ago and I been playing with it, I'm to afraid to try to root it and at the end I'm leaving this phone to my wife and getting something more high end for me.

Now I noticed that Froyo is out for the phone. But when I try to find the update OTA it says that my phone is up to date.

The specs are

Firmware version

2.1-update1

Baseband

47.39.35.09U_7.08.35.21

Software number

2.06.709.3

I don't want root access or anything (but if I need to root it I will), what I do is

Downloaded the debranded ROM

put it in the SD Card Root file.

Start the Phone in recovery mode

But I get a big red Triangle with a ! sign after that.

Do i need the "golden card" to be able to upgrade?
[Legend General] denisman:
The Froyo update is not available to unbranded Legends yet. You just have to wait a few more days (maybe) for it to be released for unbrandeds or your specific carriers ROM.

If you really can't wait you can root your Legend to install the Vodafone Froyo ROM which is already available as rooted version here.

Here is a thread with a good overview of some important threads you might want to check:

Development FAQ

You will find the links to two threads you need to root your phone.

1. [HOWTO] DOWNGRADE to 1.31 which you can then root for Legend 2.1

2. [HOWTO] Rooting your Legend! Guide from MoDaCo!

after successfully rooting you can download "ROM Manager" from the Market and for example this rooted Froyo ROM:

[ROM]FroYo - Android 2.2 -Kernel 2.6.32.17 - Build on Vodafone release - ROOTED!. Just move the .zip to your SD Card and choose to install a ROM from SD in the ROM Manager menu.
[Focus General] Seed 2.0:
*Please forgive my noobness*

The Focus is my first smartphone. I live in Columbus, OH. I have the $30 unlimited data for smartphones. I talked AT&T into reverse grandfathering me into the unlimited plan.

I had major issues two days ago trying to stream music from Last.FM. It wouldn't, I had 4 bars 3G. I used the free speed test app. The very best Ive seen on it was a peek of

107kbps

with a 68kbps average being the best I've seen. A low ping of average of

639

. most of the time I see 12-20kbps. So I call AT&T 611 customer service. After waiting on hold for about 3 minutes my rep cam back and told me the average data speed is 19kbps for data nationwide... :confused::confused::confused: . Their web site states speeds ranging from 2Mbps-7.2Mbps.

So all numbers aside, my coworkers on Verizon and T-Mobile are opening web sites on there phones sometimes 10-15 seconds faster then me. I read people stating speeds in the 2MBps-5MBps range.

Is this an AT&T thing, or a Focus thing? I live in a pretty high tech/low population city compared to other major cities in the country. I do live a few miles away from The Ohio State University, and its 55,000 undergrads. But even at work, or on the freeway, my speeds stay really slow. I know I'm spoiled with my 35MB per-second home connection speeds, but I really though mobile data would be faster then dial up.

Can you guys please share your speeds and advise with me. Much thanks in advance!!
[Focus General] burningembers:
I'd start off by first understanding that 2Mbps - 7.2Mbps is way different than the value you're stating of 2MBps - 7.2MBps.

There is NO way, to my knowledge, that the 3G networks of AT&T or Verizon supports up to 7.2MBps. And I've yet to experience even 7.2Mbps myself.

What are you using to test? If you're using the one and only Speed Tester in the WP7 Marketplace, I've heard it tends to output low speeds.

I get about 28-58KBps, which is pretty much suck. But I don't really get much better with Verizon where I am at the moment, either.

By the way, in general, Samsung's have this unwritten reputation for having shoddy radio baseband software or even hardware. I have witnessed this firsthand on all my Samsung phones.

Both my Samsung Focus and Samsung Fascinate average lower data throughput both on mobile broadband and WiFi than my HTC Incredible or my Blackberry. No idea why, for sure.
[Focus General] siralex241:
I would not base my speed on the app provided in the marketplace. I would more likely base it on web browsing and check out a 1 MB download on http://www.mobilespeedtest.com

This site yields accurate latency at the top of the screen after test and i think this site yields a better network speed test.

Update you might want to try 3-5mb tests just because they are yielding faster speeds almost reaching 4g speeds...average 2232kbps
[Focus General] burningembers:
Nice site. This seems much more accurate.
[Focus General] Seed 2.0:
I called an AT&T store, asking them what to expect. They guy did tell me he went to seminar and got a Focus for free, he has a Blackberry Torch too. He said in every way he has tested it the Focus "crushes" the Blackberry. Anyway, he asked what phones I had before, (LG Xenon, Krazor, Razor) he told me to come in to the store, that they wanted to give me a new Sim card free of charge. He said he was 75% sure my speed would increase. He stated that my Sim Card being ~4 years old is probably affecting how the network sees my phone. So I'm going up there in the morning, then will retest to see if there are any changes.

Tonights results,

Mobilespeedtest.com results: 3-5 bars, 3G test

1. 100KB test 121 kbps

2. 100KB test 294 kbps

3. 100KB test 190 kbps

100KB 3 test average = 201.66 kbps

1. 500KB test 221 kbps

2. 500KB test 1031 kbps

3. 500KB test 481 kbps

500KB 3 test average = 577.66 kbps

1. 1MB test 707 kbps

2. 1MB test 1229 kbps

3. 1MB test 218 kbps

1MB 3 test average = 718 kbps

Total 3G average = 499.10 kbps

Wi-Fi = 3MB test 7931 kbps
[Focus General] siralex241:
Your sim is definately affecting your phone speed...I would put $100 on it. I am yielding speeds such as these.

100kb - 560kbps

500kb - 960kbps

1Mb - 1440kbps

Wifi speed is dependent on what wifi you are pulling from.
[Focus General] joeonsunset:
Also try http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest (choose the mobile test.) Good latency test there, too.
[Focus General] markgamber:
I've actually been pretty pleased when compared to an iPhone 4. AT&T is poor where I live and the iPhone cannot hold a call longer than 5 minutes. I kept an old Fuze around for those times I knew the call would go more than a couple minutes. So far the Focus hasn't dropped a call and data is noticably faster than what the iPhone pulls. I haven't done a ton of tests over several days but a few tests with the same sim card (using an adapter in the Focus) had the iPhone pulling around 260 kbps while the Focus was pulling a little over 400 kbps (1MB test). Yes, seriously. I wouldn't mind seeing some numbers from the Kissimmee area where the iPhone 4 flat out screamed.
[Focus General] Seed 2.0:
Direct link to DSLReports smartphone test.

3G 4-5 bar test results: The 3G speed is 25% of the reported results, but the latency is below the average.

1. 162 kbps latency average ~298ms

2. 98 kbps latency average ~387ms

3. 97 kbps latency average ~428ms

4. 422 kbps latency average ~339ms

5. 92 kbps latency average ~362

WiFi test results: Speed is about double reported average, but latency is 7x the average! (is the latency so high being caused by security on wireless router? I'm sitting 3 feet from it)

1. 5965 kbps latency average ~1000ms

2. 5030 kbps latency average ~1029ms

3. 4922 kbps latency average ~1028ms

4. 5525 kbps latency average ~923ms

5. 5838 kbps latency average ~1095ms
[Focus General] kawgirlval69:
did a 5594

5096

4531

5161 all on 3g in the pinellas county fl area

all 4 were in a row did a test... waited a min or 2 did a test... not bad.. i used to get speeds close to this on my samsung O2 custom rom...bloatware removed... not a bad phone so far... also was done with 3 bars in a house....
[Focus General] ryotgz:
My results had WiFi with a lot higher latency as well, but only not as bad as yours. 3G latency was around 300ms. WiFi with wireless N was around 1100ms. Big jump.
[Focus General] Biggzz:
So far the data speeds are not stellar for me. My iphone 4 blows it away currently. I want to like the phone but i want speed. :D
[Focus General] Seed 2.0:
Just got my new SIM card. I'm most pleased with the effects. 1st the " robotic voice " friends and family reported at times is gone. Very obvious real world results. Netflix quality, and streaming music from Last.FM, download music from Zune all have a dramatic increase in performance.

Here are the mobilespeedtest.com results:

1MB test on 3G with 4 bars inside building in Columbus, OH:

0. 2076 kbps

1. 1834 kbps

2. 1498 kbps

3. 1932 kbps

4. 1989 kbps

5. 1742 kbps

6. 2113 kbps

7. 1963 kbps

8. 1892 kbps

9. 2258 kbps

10 test average: 1929.7 kbps

*Note* mobilespeedtest.com offered me 2MB,3MB,5MB,7MB test this time, just like it did when testing WiFi.
[Focus General] enjoythemusic:
3G, two bars

1500 down, 450 up. Let me add that this test was done while in a small, remote town and not a big city.
[Focus General] Tempest790:
I'm seeing about 3 mbps down but about 350 up. I hope HSUPA is enabled on this phone.
[Focus General] Seed 2.0:
What test are you guys using that gives up speeds?
[Focus General] enjoythemusic:
www.dslreports.com/speedtest
[Focus General] Seed 2.0:
Ive tried both the 'iphone' and 'simple' mobile speed test. Nethier give me upload speeds, just down and latency. The java and flash test don't work on my Focus.

Am I missing something? :confused:
[Focus General] reaver_shadow:
The advantages of a singular standardized design ..... superior optimization!!!!

blows away is very subjective, tell us what your getting?
[Focus General] enjoythemusic:
Was tethering at the time :)
[Focus General] aphexacid:
This is a little bit higher than my average 5Mbps speed. In the morning sometimes it dips to 4Mbps, but its usually rock solid 5.

I like ookla because it seems to give more realistic results. I've tried extremespeed, and the FCC test, and those are usually higher than ookla, and i think its wrong.
[Focus General] KonAitor:
Sim cards are always free. And I have never seen improvements with sim cards. Although i still get a new card with every new phone.

The problem I run into with these tests, is that the smaller the test packet size, the slower my speed. And I don't know if that is really accurate.

But for 1MB test on mobilespeedtest.net, I get just a hair under "Fast 3G". This is in the SF Bay Area too, so not too shabby.
[Desire Android Development] anonymous2183:
you should edit the Makefile and set

EXTRAVERSION = <your kernel version>.
[Desire Android Development] maxrfon:
Yes i managed to bypass it but the insmod then says msm_dmov_exec_cmd is not found..

Weird..
[Desire HD General] :
I have a folder on my SD Card for ringtones. I added a .nomedia file to hide these tones from the music player all good so far... BUT

This file also hides the tones from the sense ui so they cannot be selected as ring/notification/ui tones.

Am I doing it wrong or is this a quirk of sense?

Thanks
[Desire HD General] :
It turns out its not the stuff on my SD card thats showing up in music player its the camera ui sounds I think from this folder

/system/media/audio/ui

I cannot edit this folder using any file manager.

Please help?
[Desire HD General] skimminstones:
not sure, but maybe try a different music player? I know meridian lets you select what folders it looks for music in.

One of the annoying things ive found with android is it not recognising what music and pics to display in the music and gallery programs. My gallery shows a folder with all the icons from my sat nav in there, luckily can hide that folder though.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
hey all, i'm newer to XDA, i used to be a frequent guest, but i stopped and just got back into the tech world ;D

Where can i find Slick UI? i was reading about it on LauncherPro forums and it said it was on XDA but i couldn't find it and i Googled it and searched here in these forums :O can anyone help me?

its supposedly a new 2.2 launcher application not yet on the market but I've heard good things about it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] RJackson:
The SetCPU website explains some governors: http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/#7

However it seems that some extra governors, not covered by the SetCPU site, have been added to some kernels; which I think should be documented so users know which one to pick.

I will add responses as to what each governor does to this post. If there are any governors not explained that you've come across, please post and we'll see if somebody can explain it.

Unexplained governors (somebody please tell me what they do)

smartass (Best explanation i've found paraphrases to: based on interactive, but better.)

----

ondemand

Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see "up threshold" in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed. - SetCPU website

conservative

Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery. - SetCPU website

performance

Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "max" set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting "max" and "min" to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for the CPU load. This governor is recommended for stable benchmarking. - SetCPU website

powersave

Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "min" set value at all times. - SetCPU website

userspace

A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor. - SetCPU website

Interactive

The 'interactive' governor has a different approach. Instead of sampling the cpu

at a specified rate, the governor will scale the cpu frequency up when coming

out of idle. When the cpu comes out of idle, a timer is configured to fire

within 1-2 ticks. If the cpu is 100% busy from exiting idle to when the timer

fires then we assume the cpu is underpowered and ramp to MAX speed.

If the cpu was not 100% busy, then the governor evaluates the cpu load over the

last 'min_sample_rate' (default 50000 uS) to determine the cpu speed to ramp down

to. - [Patches] For developers, interactive governor patch for leo kernel

Thanks,

RJackson
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FerretAD:
As explained by MDJ:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] RJackson:
I saw that one but didn't use it because it didn't really explain what it does.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SalsaForte:
Which Kernel support SmartAss? I use WildMonks with SetCPU 2.1.0 and I don't see the "smartass" governor in my list.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 18rmiller:
i have the "savage" kernal with smartass
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Leong428:
LeeDroid's Kernals and ROMs support smartass as well
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Muezak:
Add Tiamat to the list.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jss24:
add chad's incredikernel
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] im.nick.hello:
On my evo shift the x99 kernel supports smartass for stockish froyo roms and cm7 roms

you have to have a kernel to add smartass to your list
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] caleb1783:
Thanks for the kind descriptions...

I've translated them to Korean for my fellow countrymen!

>,<

http://caleb1783.tistory.com/157
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bbgmp:
Thanks for this. Smartass has been a mystery to me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] egandt:
When I installed SETCPU I selected auto-detect, now on my device (not a HD2, but this seemed like a good place to ask as it is directly related) now I have no way to select the governor at all (box is blank), how to I change the detection from automatic to a device type "Tegra 2" in my case, I see no option to allow me to do this?

Thanks,

ERIC
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ssienn:
Powersave

I read on this forum that Power save SetCPU governor saves the best battery. I Hope this is true?

I am trying to get my hands on powersave

I can't find powersave in the "market" though.. What's up with that? Can anyone tell me which one it is? Maybe give the name of the developer so i can find it back easier?

thnks in advance

Im using galaxy s 2 with lite'ning rom 6.1 ninphetamine 2.0.5
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] greenjeans:
Yeah, that's not how it works. Governors are a part of the kernel. If you want features in your kernel that you don't have, you must flash a new kernel.

also, perhaps you should reread what 'powersave' is. It will keep your phone at the lowest cpu speed constantly. This will save battery, sure, but it will also completely destroy your phone's performance. Might as well go back to your old Moto Razr.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] timothio:
thx, actually, i set those gov randomly before i read this post
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] B.Z.:
Ondemand vs. Smartass vs. Performance gov. - Test

The idea was, that maybe the display eats so much power,

that if it is on, the CPU setting does not make a big different.

Bottom line: it does.

Phone: HTC Sensation, Leedroid Sensational 3.1 (kernel 3.2)

Conditions: Simulating light cpu use like writing email:

Brightness 50% (no timeout), MP3 playing (Volume=1, headphone), a new document on the screen,

Wifi and 3G network off (these have fluctuation, so it is easier to compare if these are off)

Ondemand 192/1188 governor: 5 h 10 min

Performance governor: 4 h 20 min

SmartassV2 192/1188 governor: 5 h 2 min

Off course if the display is off, it is easy to choose, because there is no need for performance.

I set up Conservative 192/810, but any similar can work.

I choose Ondemand, and using "Tasker" to switch to Performance, if certain applications are active,

like Doodle Jump :) - which run a little smoother with the Performance, for as an example.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gaillard:
thanks for the info...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Vipeout:
nice, thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tansr7:
Thanks, cleared my doubts.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cross84:
completely noob question, how do u choose between governors? set cpu from the market its a paid app, and the one i downloades from the official post wont work

i have a galaxy s2 with Touch X-POWER+ 2.1 [XXKI3] rom
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rikusuicide:
thx this helped me a lot:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] flowmasterrootit:
smartassV2 on my list dont know it's tasking.

smartassV2 on my list dont know it's tasking.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Makinen11:
Smartass for me creates problems when in lockscreen because it stays at the lowest frequency despite incoming calls etc and the phone lags like crazy. Same problem in more than 3 different ROMs. Solved the problem with "ondemand".

One more thing: does SetCPU do the changes in the frequencies or the kernel itself?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Green_Arrow:
i put this and a link to you thread in my thread just click the link in my sig to check it out, if it bothers you please just let me know and i will remove it.

- Thank You!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] michael.38:
great post, thanks for the help!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] domimatik:
Any idea on SavagedZen and scary?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] betoqm:
i was using smartass and yesterday my cellphone just got crazy. it seems that the processor stuck in maximum frequency even in idle, it became VERY hot and the battery was being consumed VERY fast! i had to reboot it... so, i changed to ondemand (actually i'm testing conservative)...

i'm using kernel 2.6.32.49-franco kernel v20a gamer

i want to know about SavagedZen also!

and smartass2!

by its name, i think scary is probably similar to performance.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] elesbb:
So ive played around with a lot of them , anyone figure out which is "best" for both battery and performance ? I currently have Conservative set with advanced settings tweaked, Up threshold set to 80% and down threshold set to 70% and powerbias set to 20 and got decent battery life just has a little lag when i run heavy programs . anybody else care to share their settings :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bendirkss:
other people are having this too, the battery getting really hot with smartass. seems strange to me as ive been using it for a few days and had no issues like that
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Chochiwpg:
Hi Everyone,

I just rooted my phone yesterday and was wanting to improve my phones battery life while also having it run at it's full potential when necessary. I was doing some reading and found SetCPU can perform these tasks.

Can anyone recommend a setup to increase performance but also improve battery life? I am new to this and don't want to overheat the phone. Any tips or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] homanhhung87:
thank so much :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MuTaTeD:
Request

Can you give a writeup for the following governors

BrazalianWax

Smoothass

SmartassV2

SavagedZen

interactiveX

lagfree

minmax <-- pretty obvious

powersave
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pug1:
thank you for the useful info bout governors.... am just starting out in my android experience and needed this thread :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] maddoc1007:
can you explain

can you explain also what

noop

anticipatory

deadline

sio

vr

mean as now you have to pick one of these with smartass v2 and i dont know which one to pick or their meaning?????