yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
I'm just not buying the whole, "HTC limits the charging amperage to protect us" meme. A 1500 mah battery can charge at 1.5 amps so they limit it to 650 ma's? That's 1/3 just to play it safe?

They could have saved money by just including a lighter weight charger.

No, something is up.
[EVO 4G Accessories] PGRtoo:
Ok, I spent some time today and hacked my Seidio Innodock Jr. Desktop Cradle by breaking into the power + lead so I can hook up my Fluke 112 True RMS Multimeter. Tonight I powered it up with my HTC 1000mA AC charger (which shows up as an AC charger in battery stats) and plugged in my phone which was showing 81% charge at the time per Spare Parts. Unfortunately I didn't have the wherewithal to note the battery voltage.

The supply current started at 685mA with nothing but Bluetooth on and the screen dark. I say "supply current" because this was the total current that the charger was feeding the phone regardless of what the phone was doing with it.

Next I turned on WIFI and GPS and played a YouTube video in the browser and was able to push the supply current to as much as 846mA.

Then I turned off Bluetooth, WIFI, and GPS, quit the browser and let the screen go dark again and the supply current dropped to around 630mA. The current gradually dropped from there until the charge light turned from amber to green. I didn't catch the current reading at the exact point that happened but it had read 124mA the last time I had looked and that was less than 5 minutes before I noticed the light was green.

Once the light turned green the supply current dropped to 0.000. I mean the phone just flat turned off all connection with the charger and it just doesn't matter what features I turn on or what apps I run. I'm sure it will reestablish connection when the battery drops enough to start charging again, but I'm going to bed so we'll just have to assume that.

So here's my summary:

The phone does seem to supply extra current to operate the phone (above and beyond what it uses to charge the battery) as long as the charger can supply the extra current and the battery is charging.

But once the battery is charged, the phone definitely runs off of the battery only (drains it), regardless of whether the charger is plugged in or not.

I'll be doing some more tests over the next couple of days to see what the phone draws when the battery is more discharged than ~80% and also when the phone is powered off and I'll report the results here in this thread.

Pete
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
Thanks Pete. Yeah this is why the battery drops from 100% to 90% so fast when taking it off the charger.
[EVO 4G Accessories] PGRtoo:
It may be a contributing factor, but I no longer believe it's the only one or even the main one. The main problem is HTC apparently calls ~4.2V 100% and there's a big problem with that. Yes, you have to charge a LiPo cell to 4.2V in order to charge it to maximum capacity, but 4.2V is at least 0.1V above the working voltage of a LiPo cell with even the smallest load on it.

I explain this in depth HERE and follow up HERE so I'm not going to type it all over again.

I'll also add that I unplugged my phone last night after the charge cycle completed and the battery voltage was 4196 mV and the scale was showing 100%. The phone was powered up but sleeping all night with Bluetooth, WIFI, GPS, and 4G turned off and this morning (6 hrs later) the voltage was 4089 mV and the scale was showing 93%. I answered one ~3min phone call and the scale dropped to 89%.

Pete
[EVO 4G Accessories] kthejoker20:
Just to clue some of you in on the lithium batteries.

The 650 cap is not an idiot proof idea.

Actually, when these suckers heat up, they BLOW UP.

Pushing the charging to the max will only make them unstable.

Unless you want to burn your house down, LITERALLY.

You can't put the fire out either, it blow up like a flare. The only way to put it out is to bury it in the dirt. And then, you may even be out of luck.

Google lithium battery blow up on youtube, and you will see what I mean.
[EVO 4G Accessories] wildgillis:
Is everyone making an assumption that because 1a is output the battery should be charging at 1a, some amount of current is lost in the transfer and resistance of battery this energy would be found in the form of heat while charging correct?

I'm not claiming to know anything just asking a 65% efficency while charging seems low but remember the phone is using at least some amount of power while charging as well I typically use 80ma while idle (current widget) and if the phone really has to draw power from the battery even when plugged in even more energy would be lost due to resistance of battery (essentially pulling power from ac adaptor thru battery)
[EVO 4G Accessories] phobos512:
I hate to ask this shockingly obvious question but has anyone thought to measure the current usage during charging with a multimeter? You could break out the wires on a usb cable and go inline to see what the current is, or use a magnetic field sensor that wraps around the cable. Then you'd know for sure.

EDIT

Ok I see that someone did think of this. Boy I sure do love these power threads...
[EVO 4G Accessories] voodoo55:
i read through the thread, so i figure i'll add $.02. the limits in place are a reasonable safety measure. there is nothing strange with supplying an adapter spec'd higher than the designed load. 650ma is a conservative charge rate for a new 1500mah batt. older batteries, however, cannot safely charge at as high a rate as new batteries. some people will use the same phone with the same battery for five years or more. it still has to be safe.

a .5c charge only adds marginally to the charge time over 1c. it takes longer to get the last 10% after a 1c charge. slower charge rate always equals longer battery life. this benefit, however, is negligible below .5c unless the higher rate increases temp. heat is the true killer of li-po batteries.

the phone cuts charging, and drains the batt at 100% for a good reason too. holding the battery at 4.2v for an extended time will cause corrosion, and degrade the battery. this is common practice.

the designers do actually know what they are doing. don't fret over it too much.
[EVO 4G Accessories] cyberone3:
But do they really think 10% battery drop from 100% charge is ok?
[EVO 4G Accessories] Jbcarrera:
The phones don't trickle charge you all realize that trickle chargeing li-on polymer batteries (witch is what we have) can cause catastrophic problems right. Like burning you house down at the very least destroying your phone. They charge to 100% the discharge 10% the charge that same 10% back to prevent it from burning up that's why the first 10% can go fast

Sent from my EVO at the edge of Hell
[EVO 4G Accessories] cyberone3:
are we sure that its a l-io polmer and not just li-on
[EVO 4G Accessories] PGRtoo:
To begin with, "lithium-ion" (Li-Ion) has become a generic term for a whole family of cell chemistries, but most share one thing in common: The electrolyte layer is an absorbent material saturated with gel (read: liquid). You can't laminate a liquid so the layers in those kind of cells need to be tightly compressed which is why the layers are almost always tightly rolled into a cylindrical form and shoved into a tube of some sort.

The difference between those "conventional" kind of Li-Ion cells and lithium-ion polymer (LiPo) cells is the electrolyte in LiPo cells is contained in a solid polymer, and a polymer

can

be laminated. Consequently, the layers in LiPo cells don't need to be tightly compressed which is why they can make 'em flat so easily.

The bottom line is if a battery pack has a flat form factor then it's a pretty sure bet that they're lithium-ion polymer cells, regardless of what the manufacturers print on the wrapper.

Pete
[EVO 4G Accessories] goodboynyc:
So is it normal for my Evo to pull ~700mA if not more(less than 900mA)?
[EVO 4G Accessories] anthonyandrews:
I can not speak for monoprice, but as far as eBay goes, you often see items where the shipping is higher than the items price. Unless monoprice charges fair shipping rates, I think there is something shady going on.

For example, on ebay, I purchased screen protectors. I paid 50 cents for 5 protectors. Shipping was $2.75....The item had a 44 Cent stamp on it.

Why do eBay sellers do this? They pay a commission to eBay on the sale price, but not on shipping. Who does (or should) this help? This helps keep prices lower for us, but cheats eBay.

It looks like MonoPrice is in my state...in Rancho Cucamonga. I never heard of them before this post.
[Fascinate General] Gurm:
I'm wondering if this is normal?

I got a Fascinate last week, and so far I absolutely love the phone with a couple exceptions.

One of them is that when I'm having a conversation, I hear my own voice through the earpiece and its SUPER distracting. And other people's voices aren't exactly paragons of sound quality.

Obviously through my stereo headset this isn't an issue, but I can't wear that all the time - when out and about or driving it's not an option, for example.

Is this normal? Fixable? I tried playing with the "enhanced voice security" feature, didn't seem to make much of a difference...
[Fascinate General] garywojdan81:
You can tweak the audio settings thru the hidden menu in the dialer. Look in this forum for the topic "android secret code string revealed" & be careful what you change.
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
Had first one for 2 weeks and thought I was being overly picky. But went to vz store and made calls on 2 SF floor models and those sounded way better. Manager did the same with mine and heard it and exchanged on sight no hassle. Bad speaker for you too maybe? Something to consider checking out though.

good day.
[Fascinate General] Gurm:
Yeah I think I will wander down to the Verizon store tomorrow, sadly there isn't one handy to my house today, but there is one right near work.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shutdown:
hi all genius'

Why do my hard buttons keep flashing? When the screen is on they flash on and off every second and when screen os off it's a slower flash.

getting rather annoying now!

is there something i can use to turn them off?
[Nexus One General] rickytenzer:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...mo-videos-high-res-app-icon-feature-graphics/

- Higher resolution images.

- Up to 8 screenshots, huge improvement over 2

- Link to YouTube promotional video if desired

Good stuff!
[Nexus One General] xManMythLegend:
Very Nice additions.
[Nexus One General] pupy991:
Wonder if these changes will already get published during tonights maintenances...
[Nexus One General] jonc:
Yeah, I think that's where the changes came from, an e-mail to developers saying that the market was going down today and what changes they were making...
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Don't you mean today? I believe it's until 4pm this afternoon.
[Nexus One General] zer0day:
Nope, the first email they sent out had the wrong time in it, the work is happening from from 10PM to 4AM PST.

They sent out another (3rd) email a while ago reminding devs about the work, hope some amazing goodies come out of it.
[Nexus One General] pupy991:
Took my information out of this post by "teknoraver" from the thread about the announcement of Eric Smith:
[Nexus One General] richardpap:
Thank you for your information.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Market maintenance completed.

Anything mind-blowing yet?
[Nexus One General] zer0day:
Nope :( I can't even upload more than 2 screenshots
[Nexus One General] player911:
Link is screwed up for me. If I click it, I was getting redirected back to an invalid XDA thread. I had to copy link and paste it into my browser for it to work.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fbunnyuk:
I've already got a thread running in androidforums but I thought i'd try my luck here to.

i've tried flashing numerous stock ROMS using the .exe on shipped-roms and and have come to the conclusion my phone may be fubar'd

I have an o2 branded Desire and have tried 2 different ROMS

Currently my phone is in the current state :-

BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.93.0001

MICROP-031d

TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101

Radio-4.06.00.02_2

Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18

Parsing ...[downloaded.zip]

[1] SPLASH2 - OK

[2] BOOT - OK

[3] RECOVERY - OK

[4] RADIO_CUST - OK

[5] SPLASH1 - OK

[6] RADIO_V2 - Fail-PU

[7] SYSTEM - OK

[8] USERDATA - OK

Partition update fail!

Update Fail!

This is after trying to flash the froyo version for my phone.

I cannot get to a valid boot loader, the only option on my bootloader is RUU and it's not selectable.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
It's on the wrong radio for a FroYo ROM, something's gone wrong...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] savva:
Hey Everyone,

What i would like to know if its possible is, at work i'm hooked up to Exchange through Wifi, the Corp wifi blocks/filters certain ports/sites.

Is there anyway to send my Outlook/Exchange signal through Wifi and keep my other Apps (Gmail, Instant Messaging) through Data?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] steviewevie:
The DZ has a Micro USB connector. No big suprise to a lot of people, I'm sure. But I have come from a Touch Pro 2, which had a Mini USB socket. So I've had to get some new cables (e.g. for car charger, retractable cable to carry around etc).

Of course the phone does come with a suitable cable for its mains adaptor, but some of you, like me, might like to have more than that.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] rewen:
This might help out those who want to keep using their mini usb chargers on micro usb devices.. it's only $2 and free shipping.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.41527

Edit: This page has micro usb cables (including htc oem) for under $3 and probably usb wall adapters as well. There's also good deals at monoprice.com for the cables at least.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fmedrano1977:
Data disconnects when a station starts connecting then comes back when I close out the app.

Sent from HD2
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] soldiers33:
is it possible to somehow edit the xml files of the sony sms app so that it doesnt convert to mms after it reaches more than 3 sms's. I dont want to use an 3rd party application such as chompsms or handcent.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] az_registration:
Hi All,

I'm trying to resolve an issue with wifi, that doesn't work in android but does in windows. So I want to repean configuration of wifi in android. So far I found the following items:

nvram.txt => windows: /windows/ android:/proc/calibration

BCM4329B1_002.002.023.0436.0439.hcd => windows:/windows android:/sytem/etc/firmware

There is also a file 'fw_bcm4329.bin' analogues of which I couldn't find. Does any body know what this file is responsible for? Are there any other files to configure wifi?

Thanks!

ps. just in case, my device is htc hd2
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mdebeljuh:
What do you need to configure in android?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] az_registration:
I need to make sure that the wireless hardware (bcm4329) in android has exactly the same configuration as in windows mobile. I thought that having firmware (*.hcd file) and config file (nvram) is enough. But it still doesn't work in android. It seems that the hardware is not properly configured, since neither firmware version nor MAC address are accessible..

dmesg:

wlan: Dongle Host Driver, version 4.218.204.2

mmc0: queuing CIS tuple 0x91 length 3

mmc0: new high speed SDIO card at address 0001

wlan: DHD: dongle ram size is set to 294912(orig 294912)

wlan: dhd_bus_rxctl: resumed on timeout

wlan: firmware version: ver

wlan: Return_dpc value is : 0

wlan: stop poll

wlan: dhd_bus_rxctl: resumed on timeout

wlan: dhd_preinit_ioctls: can't get MAC address , error=-110

wlan: dhdsdio_probe: failed
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mdebeljuh:
If you need to copy mac address from windows to android you can use hastarin kernel and configure mac address through cmdline parameters
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] az_registration:
I suspect that the problem is deeper (firmware vesion could not be read).. But I will try now to install the kernel you mentioned. Thanks for help!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] az_registration:
Just updated the kerner... Performed all the steps for "if wifi doesn't work", but no results - wlan is dead in android..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mdebeljuh:
Do you have Error message? If so you need to update tun.ko and bcm4329.ko modules
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] az_registration:
Error messages are the same as with the old kernel, I mean there is nothing about miscorrespondance of *.ko files and kernel.

I noticed one interesting thing.. When I specify parameter for loading bcm4329 modue (via insmod) it works even when I specify incorrect nvram_path.. So I suspect that this parameter is just ignored or I specify it incorrectly. Anyway /proc/calibration is used even if I specify my path.

It would be nice to replace it with my data, but I don't know where it is loaded from and it seems to be a big deal to update it dynamically.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Naked Sam:
Would it be at all possible to have a status bar on the bottom of the screen or would that require a complete do-over of the system?
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] bmx24:
no u would just have to mod an xml idk witch one but poroably in drawable on in layout and then test and test som more theres bount to be some bugs
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Naked Sam:
Yeah. Its not like im dying to have it im just curious.
[General Questions and Answers] dogswind:
I was reading about Verizon working on simultaneous voice and data technology in preparation for the iPhone. Would that also allow us to send and receive text messages at the same time (instead of sent messages stalling and failing when receiving one)? This has always bugged me when texting multiple people.
[General Questions and Answers] Captainkrtek:
I have had verizon for 10 years and never had an issue with this on multiple platforms (BlackBerry, Android) and am not sure if this is an issue with the iPhone? Verizons network has been pretty solid with handling messages for me.

Hope this answer helpful :)
[General Questions and Answers] dogswind:
I have only ever had Verizon, and this happened to me on countless "dumbphones", Blackberry, Windows Mobile, and now Android. A message will just say sending for a lengthy amount of time, then fail, immediately followed by a received message. Surely someone knows what I'm talking about, or I've had the worst luck ever lol.
[General Topics] Ciex:
Hey guys!

I'm wondering if anyone knows a good website for Nokia which is similiar like XDA-Developers? I'm trying to hack Nokia E72, and I'm having a very hard time to fix this (Symbian Sucks!).

Anyway, if someone could please help me out, and if there is step by step tutorial how to hack firmware etc... it would be very much appreciated!

I hope someone here could please help me out!

Thank you for help!

Cheers!
[General Topics] lagejan:
Hello,

You can take a look at: www.dailymobile.se

Their forum contains lot of Nokia hacks.

I don't know if they have anything done for the E72 yet,

but a big community is continiously working on new cool

custom firmwares and tools.
[General Topics] Ciex:
Hey!

This is really greatly appreciated! If anyone else could provide me more help, it would be great!

Thank you very much!
[General Topics] beautyangel:
google is your best friend, easy simple quick fast.
[Fascinate General] DroiDAddicT14:
Ok, I've rooted my phone before but had to reset the phone to all stock because I downloaded an impaled version of angry birds to get the ads off and make the game run smoother....never doin that again lol. Anyway, I tried using the one click root like I did the 1st time but its not findin my phone. I think it says something like it does not recognize adf internally or externally. I downloaded the right samsung driver, put the debugging on, and used the usb cord that came wit the phone and it still doesn't work. I already have CWM (I pushed it on the phone wit odin) and have the stock kernel. now I just need root again :(
[Fascinate General] DroiDAddicT14:
Please help me!! :(
[Fascinate General] ksizzle9:
Use z4 root. Its the easiest way. You can Google it and get the. apk or I this k its in the market
[Fascinate General] DroiDAddicT14:
I actually juss did and it worked! Lol thanks
[Droid X General] Butterandguns:
I just installed RubiXFocused 1.8.6 yesterday. I installed it by booting into Clockwork Recovery (I think that's what it's called) and installing the zip file. It is a brand new ROM for the Droid X and I am very happy with it. The only thing is that it has a white status bar and I think it would look a lot better with a black one.

I looked online and found that the easiest way to do this would be through ROM Manager. So I got ROM Manager and tried to install Blackmodz Black Bar. Everything works until it reboots and tries to install the update. About halfway through I get an error showing a triangle with an exclamation mark inside and the android next to it. And then the phone reboots with no update.

I am in bootstrap recovery when I do all of this. Any help??
[Droid X General] thepolishguy:
That black bar that you are trying to install is not compatible with Rubix at all. Rubix uses a completely different framework. When you try to install that black bar- it is trying to replace the Rubix framework-res.apk. Thankfully you were "unsuccessful".

Might I ask- are you keeping up with the thread on Rubix 1.8 over here...

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/drod2169-x/97764-often-imitated-never-duplicated-focused-1-8-6-a.html

...it is very helpful and you will be able to find modifications that work in this thread. Now that you are running RubiX you must be careful with any mods that you do to your X bc Rubix is using a framework-res.apk that is unique to the Rom and not shared with any of the other roms or the original Moto rom. that means most mods need to be specifically designated for rubix 1.8.

hope that is helpful and didn't come off sounding superior. I hate being talked down to but noticed that inadvertently I can sound that way.

good luck.
[Droid X General] Butterandguns:
Not at all. thank you so much for your help. I had not seen that thread and it is super helpful.
[Droid X General] pguerr411:
Can someone please let me know rubix 1.8.9 is more stable than 1.8.6 ? I have a rooted droid X running OTA 2.2. I have YET to install a custom ROM, and am a little apprehensive, as I do NOT want to BRICK my phone. Also, can someone please verify the correct procedure to install a custom ROM. I have Clockwork Recovery Manager installed, as well as Koush's bootstrap for DX. I believe I have to boot into Clockwork Recovery and perform - wipe data/wipe cache, and then install zip from SD (once I put the ROM zip file on the SD).then sit back and let install..continue..Am I missing something? Thanks for any help/advice.
[Fascinate General] zachsx:
Worked wonders. I figure I'd share the information. I'm sure most of you know already. You cant get Z4 from the market anymore. Have to search Google. Worked wonders. Way easier than the adb shell. Sorry if this is a repost
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
1 click root apps are the devil.

that is all.
[Fascinate General] zachsx:
Really. I've never had a problem with androot or this Z4. I guess its the risk you take being lazy likebme :) lol
[Fascinate General] fallingup:
They are the devil because they allow n00bs to root with no knowledge on how to fix their phone should they break them.
[Fascinate General] nitsuj17:
agreed, yes.
[Fascinate General] garywojdan81:
Everybody's a noob at first. Hopefully no one stays one...
[Fascinate General] thatdudebutch:
I just downloaded it in the market 5 minutes ago
[Fascinate General] zachsx:
Wow they must have put it back up. Well that's good then :) hope it works as well as it worked for me.
[Fascinate General] zachsx:
Makes sense but everyone's gotta start somewhere. Just a reminder. Always do your research :)