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[Windows Phone 7 General] OndraSter:
There is problem that the extra languages would occupy space designed for future updates - there is let's say 100MB free ROM space in IMGFS for future updates. And if half of that is taken by new languages, you won't receive any new update anymore ;).
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
Good point.

Moar space plz! :D

But this would be solved though if they offered language packs that you could download.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tone_:
True but it doesn't mean the language will be installed.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2413345
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Microsoft is one of the world's crappiest software makers in terms of language support. That is, they do translate their products to lots and lots of languages, but then force just one language on you, and in the best case charge exorbitant fees to change that via MUI packs (or "Ultimate" versions of their products). I'm personally suffering from this a lot because I can't stand localized software - translations are mostly bad, and in Excel these idiots even translate formulas (I still have no clue what's the Russian abbreviation for NPV or IRR, nobody ever uses localized terms like this). And when I buy a laptop, it comes with localized version of Windows.

Even worse stuff was happening with WM phones. If I bought a European version it didn't have Russian keyboard. If I bought a phone in Russia it would have Russian UI which I can't stand. So I had to HSPL the damned thing and install a ROM for a different region right after purchase.

I suspect that Microsoft simply sells language packs to OEMs, I just see no other reason why they limit languages. It's just not the case with Android or Symbian or any other OS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] OndraSter:
Sure they are.

There are two sides:

- unbranded phones, sold in Europe, usually contain all the main languages (unless there are special versions for the country) or there are versions like East Europe and West Europe (or just Europe) because every language takes some space.

- branded phones are sold always for ONE country and locked to ONE carrier (not case of Czech and maybe some other countries though, as our laws forbid SIM locking), so carrier prefers to keep just the one language and give user more space for apps and media.
[Windows Phone 7 General] weijoon:
FYI,

Open Market phone origin for Malaysia, included these system locale

Afrikaans

Albanian

Azeri (Cyrillic)

Azeri (Latin)

Basque

Belarusian

Bulgarian

Catalan

Chinese (Hong Kong S.A.R.)

Chinese (Macao S.A.R.)

Chinese (PRC)

Chinese (Singapore)

Chinese (Taiwan)

Croatian

Czech

Danish

Dutch (Belgium)

Dutch (Netherlands)

English (Australia)

English (Belize)

English (Canada)

English (Caribbean)

English (India)

English (Ireland)

English (Jamaica)

English (Malaysia)

English (New Zealand)

English (Republic of the Philippines)

English (Singapore)

English (South Africa)

English (Trinidad and Tobago)

English (United Kingdom)

English (United States)

English (Zimbabwe)

Estonian

Faroese

Filipino

Finnish

French (Belgium)

French (Canada)

French (France)

French (Luxembourg)

French (Principality of Monaco)

French (Switzerland)

Galician

German (Austria)

German (Germany)

German (Liechtenstein)

German (Luxembourg)

German (Switzerland)

Greek

Hungarian

Icelandic

Indonesian

Italian (Italy)

Italian (Switzerland)

Japanese

Kiswahili

Korean

Kyrgyz

Latvian

Lithuanian

Macedonian (FYROM)

Malay (Brunei Darussalam)

Malay (Malaysia)

Mongolian (Cyrillic)

Norwegian (Bokmal)

Norwegian (Nynorsk)

Polish

Portugese (Brazil)

Portugese (Portugal)

Romanian

Russian

Serbian (Cyrillic, Montenegro)

Serbian (Cyrillic, Serbia and Montenegro (Former))

Serbian (Cyrillic, Serbia)

Serbian (Latin, Montenegro)

Serbian (Latin, Serbia and Montenegro (Former))

Serbian (Latin, Serbia)

Slovak

Spanish (Argentina)

Spanish (Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela)

Spanish (Bolivia)

Spanish (Chile)

Spanish (Colombia)

Spanish (Costa Rica)

Spanish (Dominician Republic)

Spanish (Ecuador)

Spanish (El Salvador)

Spanish (Guatemala)

Spanish (Honduras)

Spanish (Mexico)

Spanish (Nicaragua)

Spanish (Panama)

Spanish (Paraguay)

Spanish (Peru)

Spanish (Puerto Rico)

Spanish (Spain - International Sort)

Spanish (Spain - Traditional Sort)

Spanish (United States)

Spanish (Uruguay)

Swedish (Finland)

Swedish (Sweden)

Tatar

Turkish

Ukrainian

Uzbek (Cyrillic)

Uzbek (Latin)

Changing Locale provide me the option to choose another language, currently I'm using English (Malaysia) which only provide english, but I tried to use English (United Kingdom) and it provided me the option to choose few language... IIRC, the keyboard layout also changed abit, to help u swap from a language for another one...
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
I see. Mine has English UK, English US, French Canada, French France, French Switzerland, German Germany, Italian, Spanish (International)
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
I'd be really pissed if my phone wasted that much space on languages I obviously do not need. If they want to put that many, they have to give you an option to remove the ones you do not need the way RIM does on Blackberries...
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
IPhone does it, and so do open market Android phones.

I agree that the best option would be downloadable language packs (and even then all I need is keyboard, I prefer English UI).

An option to remove? I don't really see how that's supposed to work since files initially are in ROM.
[Windows Phone 7 General] XxAndrexX:
Hi, i just got an update yesterday, it was all about protection against cerificates. My girlfriend on her htc didn't get it. I've got the lg.

Anyone more with this update?
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
On Blackberries, but you get an option/prompt to delete the ones you don't need after you choose a locale. You can also install/remove them through desktop manager (and other stock apps). They can implement that in Zune...

Additionally, I'm pretty sure Microsoft knows what Compression is :)

Or just put that stuff in a hidden market area and download what's needed when it's first needed :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] R3XNebular:
Mine Keeps crashing
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
http://windowsphonesecrets.com/2011/05/08/new-mango-features-revealed/

Its really starting to seem like we'll have almost everything we've been asking for in Mango :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] OndraSter:
And even integrated WLM with contacts :). I LOVE IT!

Now we need just tethering and BT keyboard support. And WP7 will be the best around LOL.
[Windows Phone 7 General] denis9908:
yuhoo~~~i csan do it..
[Windows Phone 7 General] circleofomega:
I just want my phone to go from 16BIt to 32BIT no matter what the name the next update...
[Windows Phone 7 General] [BT]Black V:
This is only partially fixed.

Seriously I can only paste once, then it clears the clipboard

That is not fixed, not fixed at all

/edit spelling fail
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
It doesn't clear the clipboard. Where you see the paste icon slide off to the left, you can slide to the right and bring it back and paste as many times as you want.
[Windows Phone 7 General] steve10:
You can paste as many times as you want. Swipe to the right to reveal the paste icon in the suggestion bar after you paste the first time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] [BT]Black V:
oh dear god, how slow am I
[Windows Phone 7 General] bahraniii:
What about Arabic, is there any news?
[Windows Phone 7 General] N0RVE:
I miss bluetooth transfer function so much. Why would they not support it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] cypux:
Windows Phone 7 'Mango' to bring Office 365, Facebook Chat, more Xbox Live integratio

The Windows Phone Dev Podcast unearthed some seemingly legit Windows Phone 7 screenshots last week that revealed a few new features apparently headed to the mobile OS, and it's now back with another batch that show yet more additions said to be included with the so-called "Mango" update. That includes support for Facebook Chat and Office 365 (plus SkyDrive and SharePoint), as well as a revamped Games hub that suggests even more Xbox Live integration (including a rather interesting new "Automatic Sync" option). What's more, the lock screen will apparently now show the album art if there is a song currently playing, and it seems there will be some new group messaging options as well. Of course, all that's still unconfirmed by Microsoft, but you can judge all the screenshots for yourself at the link below.

Source:WMPoweruser
[Windows Phone 7 General] weijoon:
Not sure about it~~ But it suppose to come with Mango
[Windows Phone 7 General] DemiNutive:
You can paste again if you flick to the right where the suggested words come up
[Windows Phone 7 General] defining:
I don't know if it has been mentioned here (sorry I didn't go through all of the 51 pages... yet)

I miss the ability to add *.ics files to the calender if you get them sent by mail.

And another feature I'd like to see is an option to quickly change the language and keyboard (spelling suggestions etc) because I write emails and messages in 3 different languages.
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
More information about Mango, thins time enterprise oriented

http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-...-7-5-features-email-conversation-view-on-tap/

Interesting features listed here include the ability to connect to hidden wireless networks and conversation view for email, stuff I know a lot of people wanted.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Omega Ra:
you just don't know how to multi paste. It works fine.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Well there is a big button with the name of the current language on it if you have your keyboard setup for multilingual input...

I'm still waiting for my own native language so I have no auto-correct on. But I tested it with Italian and English and it switches just fine between those languages even with auto-correct on. However setting auto-correct on and of is a PITA indeed and the space bar is very small when in multi-lingual mode because of this stupid smily button taking up so much space.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Necroman_AI:
Hi there!

Inspired by this topic, i've made a new one on the Portuguese forum Zwame with lots of improvements, including more info about the updates, more included future updates and homebrew alternatives to missing features.

The website is in Portuguese, but you can use Google or Bing translator do check it out!

Here is the link: http://forum.zwame.pt/showthread.php?t=645544

Google Translator (PT to EN): http://translate.google.pt/translat...http://forum.zwame.pt/showthread.php?t=645544

Bing Translator (PT to EN): http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...http://forum.zwame.pt/showthread.php?t=645544

And don't forget to thank me! :D

----

Camaradas Portuguese passem pelo fórum da Zwame onde coloquei um novo tópico sobre as actualizações do Windows Phone, inspirado neste, mas com uma data de novidades e até alternativas à falta de funcionalidades (homebrew).

Eis a ligação: http://forum.zwame.pt/showthread.php?t=645544

E não se esqueçam de agradecer! :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] solidkevin:
wow! I just looked through the features of Mango and :D! Looks great, its really gonna be complete and after that it will be just more and more features! Now fro the hardware...
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
Nice work Necroman. Do you mind if I use some of your information to update this thread?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Schismal:
Stole the current list of leaked Mango updates from here:

http://www.winrumors.com/windows-phone-7-5-mango-feature-list-and-demos/

Honestly, I don't know what else Microsoft can have up their sleeve for next week.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eizsoft:
We need more screens.. maybe a live feed screen on the left side.
[Windows Phone 7 General] brysonwong:
Will mango eat more battery power and makes the phone laggy? :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Avandor:
Its WP7... not Android :cool:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Necroman_AI:
No, i wont mind at all! Go ahead and use it!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Lets hope what brandon watson said becomes true and all devs get early access to the Mango update :)

The 24th will be a good day, hopefully they will integrate Skype natively as well. The basis is there and now that they own Skype, nothing is preventing them from integrating it... They probably thought about it and talked to Skype for much longer than we know so it could be that they already worked on it... Otherwise well have the app at least.
[Windows Phone 7 General] farhadabas:
I hope more languages are supported. I am surprised Microsoft is taking so long with the language updates.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Necroman_AI:
16 new languages will be supported with Mango, as well as marketplace availability
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sir. Haxalot:
I don't think that we'll get tight Skype integration with Mango, it's a bit too soon after the announcement. An app will probably be released shortly after though. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] eizsoft:
I don't think so as you can see the OS is super fast with the current hardware and any updates won't make drastic changes that would make it laggy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] VikramKadam:
WPCentral has the best coverage for any WP7 updates.

WPCentral has the best coverage for any WP7 updates.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Necroman_AI:
Tomorrow is the big day! According to Mr. Ballmer, more than 500 features will be added to Mango! Yeay :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] fouros:
fingers X'd for wifi router app like my wm6.5 phone or at least USB tethering
[Windows Phone 7 General] tfouto:
Big news:

http://www.neowin.net/news/wp7-mango-sdk-to-be-released-tomorrow-os-rtm-rumors
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
:D :D :D

Now that's what I call big news!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Rowdy.nl:
Pressconference

With ^^ :)

Could not find if it was posted already, but for whom may be interested, today at 16.00 CET* you can follow the livestream of the press conference here: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone

* yes, that's 4PM in Central Europe, +1, or +2 with summer time, I'm not sure... :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] Seed 2.0:
Is there any word if future hardware will allow a more friendly removable storage support?
[Windows Phone 7 General] lutherkingmartin:
this serious French website say : "Mango in one month on phone if you have a developer account"

http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/6...go-complements-informations-disponibilite.htm
[Windows Phone 7 General] abcbattery:
Windows Phone 7 1.0 is new for me.

__________________

Perfect fix phone LCD-screen
[Windows Phone 7 General] barc0deguy:
just checked the mango update videos..its looks like..its just what i need :p
[Windows Phone 7 General] wholoot1:
Thanks. I will edit the post with any information I receive
[Windows Phone 7 General] rko-freaK:
Does anybody know when any Update for ad hoc comes? I need to connect my ar drone with ad hoc oO
[Windows Phone 7 General] amooor:
i think is good thing for WP7
[Windows Phone 7 General] Thunder_47:
Will developers get an early release?
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
According to wmpowerusers.com, no.
[Windows Phone 7 General] knudsen81:
microsoft have said they will look at get the mango uot to devs before release
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
What they said was that they're working on a plan. They actually didn't say what kind of plan they were thinking of. The article I linked states exactly that there won't be updates ROM wise for developers.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
The wmpowerusers.com article may have stated (rather, inferred) that, but there has been no such statement from Microsoft. Read the comments to the article, and the actual statements from Microsoft, before jumping to premature conclusions.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
What is it that makes my statement premature to you? The article was referring to information directly from the Microsoft App Hub. This doesn't make it official of course, but it's a pretty reliable source. And the statement isn't less or more official then the one claiming that developers will get an early Mango update via Zune or a downloadable ROM.
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
I dont think MS will allow removable storage as they do not want Android to be running form a sd card.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Show me anything in the Microsoft statement (not the wmppowerusers article) that says that new hardware will be the only means for developers to receive Mango early. That may be the way it plays out, but there is nothing in what Microsoft said that confirms or denies additional delivery options. All they said is that new developer phones will be available, not that new developer phones will be required.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Maybe you should check this out. Doesn't clearly say they won't deliver any early Mango releases either, but at least it's an official Microsoft statement about what problems need to be resolved before they can offer such updates. Pay attention to the comments.

But like I already admitted, there's no official statement from Microsoft that actually says they won't deliver an early Mango update to developers. Yet there isn't any official statement that they will either. To be a little more precise on that, all those statements that claim MS actually will deliver an update are based on rumors that spawned right after MIX11 event. Joe Belfiore and WinPhoneSupport (on Twitter) both said they didn't know anything about such plans. On the other hand the device solution has already been used before and is not based on rumours but is an official matter of fact. But I have to admit that your right claiming that it doesn't exclude any pre-release updates.

Damn hard to make my point clear in a foreign language. I hope you got what I was trying to tell you. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Thanks for that link. I have no doubt that there could be issues delivering a Zune-based (or even standalone updater-based) Mango image to developers. But in reality, I don't see those issues as being significantly different from the issues in delivering new versions of the OS to end users.

And, to be honest, after the Chevron NoDo updater fiasco, I find that I take Microsoft's claims of possible problems with a rather large grain of salt. In that circumstance, they knew EXACTLY what went wrong in Chris Walsh's updater program (it failed to in include some of the keyboard language updates on some phone models). They could have provided a simple fix for the problem themselves (which, I grant, was not their responsibility, but would have been great for PR), or they could have provided Chris with the details of the problem as soon as it happened (on condition that he stop distributing the back door updater), making it possible for him to issue the appropriate fix much sooner. Instead, they issued a statement that "Walshed" phones would receive no future updates, period.

In this case, I think that delivering Mango to developers via a new ROM image is entirely possible. The most likely reason that Microsoft might be hedging on the issue is their fear that the ROM image might find its way to non-developer phones.

In any case, we'll know soon enough. :)

Oh, and if English is not your first language, well, all I can say it you communicate better in English than at least half the native English-speakers I know.:)
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
First of all thanks for the compliment. :)

I agree that one of the reasons why Microsoft is refusing to deliver updates OTA, via Zune or any other update tool is because they want to decrease the risk that the ROMs get leaked. The question here is _why_ they do not want to be the update be leaked and spread all over any WP7 devices easily. Considering the way Microsoft went with Windows Mobile, they truely didn't care what consumers installed and what not. Though flashing custom ROMs was the only way of recieving updated OS versions anyways. :) Now what they do care about with WP7 is to make sure that all consumers will get the true update. See, what developers will get is a pre-release. Still far from a final version. Now what makes the whole thing a little complicated is that Microsoft needs a way to bring back devices with that pre-release mango to a clean state. That means a state _before_ pre mango was applied. Like you said, we already had that sort of situation with walshed phones. I totally agree, Microsoft could have handled this situation different from how they actually did. Even though they could never have been held responsible for it. But in my opinion that's exactly what they're trying to do now by looking for a solution to publish a pre-release of mango without completely ****ing up devices. I'm quite convinced they'll find a way, but until that is made official, I stick with the information I have. Which is that at the current state Microsoft will make mango available only on dedicated developer devices rather than handing out pre-release updates. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] iqbal_zaro:
can any one have any idea that how to use usb flash memory in windows mobile 7
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ttblondey:
by adding to the registry edit for the ringtone and we can use it for sms too( adding custom sms tone with the stock tone)
[Windows Phone 7 General] dslom001:
Hacking and updating

So, I'm a noob..forgive me ya'll. I was just wondering if I unlock using chevron will it stop me from updating to mango ? Thanks for your help .
[Windows Phone 7 General] xDomsx:
No. My only fear is that mango will fix the hole that chevron used.
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
NoDo already fixed the hole Chevron used
[Windows Phone 7 General] xDomsx:
Yes, but I still have unlocked phone with NoDo because I unlocked it before update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Van Stellato:
windows phone will be very good,maybe i will buy a windows phone next time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bad Tiger:
when the wp7 will recieve mango update??
[Windows Phone 7 General] lugi93:
In autumn..september
[Windows Phone 7 General] andycted:
I think this is a bit optimistic. As a start, when they said NoDo was coming out in a period between X and Y, it basically was announced ready at Y - 1 day. Then it took a couple of weeks to start rolling out to a first tiny batch of devices. Gradually it took 50% of the phones maybe in a month or two.

We're now almost in July and the 'March' update is still pending on a few devices/carriers, which will get it in a couple of weeks.

So I would think reasonably Mango will be announced in September/October, will start to get to phones in November, but most of us won't see it until mid-December. Without mentioning the fact that maybe in late September we will see the first Nokia phones with mango already on it

In other words, I wouldn't hold my breath
[Windows Phone 7 General] jzyaa:
im looking forward ie9 core.
[Windows Phone 7 General] andolasoft:
Nice to see you again..

Great discussion for this topic.
[Windows Phone 7 General] francoisk:
you can install beta mango ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] kingcedi:
Nice Thread
[Windows Phone 7 General] sandronh:
No Aguardo!!!

Mal Posso Esperar Pela Mango!!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] phil10:
Hello,

I' m installed Mango Béta. it's really a check forward. deeply final version. enjoy.:)
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
i tried and gave up on installing the beta mango, tried all my 3 computers.... updateWP got crasred everytime....

so i am waiting for the maong itself....
[Windows Phone 7 General] xxjunior01xx:
Interesting thread.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mdsharpe:
Streaming

I would add streaming audio support to the list of missing features.

In WM6.5 I made heavy use of WMP's ability to stream internet radio. I feel it is sorely lacking from Zune and WM7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] steve10:
Windows Phone 7 already supports streaming audio. With Mango that will be "complete," as it will be possible to stream audio as a background task. However, what Windows Phone still needs is USB audio support.