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[EVO 4G General] okolowicz:
My two cents:

I think the "fragmentation" issue is primarily software related and is the fault of the manufacturers and service providers. That said, I think the most important issue is whether the fragmentation discourages developers from creating apps for Android.

As hardware and software advances there will always be features that will work on some phones and not work on others. This occurs with the iPhone too and is no surprise, however, Apple still rolls out new OS's to all phones so that the vast majority of users are on the same platform.

While Google has been releasing two versions of Android per year, it is the manufacturers and service providers who decide whether or not to roll out the updates and that seems to be a crapshoot. Since the manufacturers are not just tolling out vanilla Android, instead choosing to overlay their own UI on top (e.g. Touchwiz or Sense UI), this would require effort on their part to rework their UI to keep up with Android updates. And, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't... So, even though you have hardware in circulation perfectly capable of running newer versions of Android they don't because the manufacturers don't allow it.

I think most people would agree the number of quality apps in the iTunes store far exceeds the number of quality apps in the Android Market. However, Android has been outselling the iPhone for almost a year now. The question is: Is it the "fragmentation" keeping developers from porting their apps to Android? Or, is it something else? If it IS the fragmentation then I AM worried. I think 2011 is an important year for Android and I remain optimistic the Apps will come. It'll be interesting if they don't...

To Be Continued...
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
the evil fragmentation comes from low-end android phones also some developers not properly coding
[EVO 4G General] tomh1979:
simple to answer i think, here's the thing, not every phone is going to be the same, just like not every carrier is the same, what i mean is that each manufacturer is going to have their own set of hardware and specs to follow, thus giving them an option to best choose the Android version that best suits the phone they are building.

Engadget is a huge iEverything fan, so they will help bash android and google just as much as Mr. duschbag, sorry i meant Job's, but you get the point, after all it was Jobs that first coined the whole android is fragmented war, however someone correct me if i'm wrong.

Besides if manufacturer were to listen to android about having a set standard then we might as well also be referred to as Apple, but since we're not under the dictatorship of Stevie, we don't have to worry about that.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Android fragmentation deals with both software and hardware.

Software-wise you have different phones having different Android versions -- OEMs seem to only support their phones for a year, sometimes even less, and sometimes not at all after it's release. You already see this problem with 1.6 vs 2.0 vs 2.1 vs 2.2; and as soon as Gingerbread appears you'll be seeing a sudden split between Android version share. This causes problems for developers because each Android version supports varying API levels, so some phones are inevitably left behind by developers.

Hardware-wise you have a lot of phones that are very different. You can have two phones of the same Android version and you'll still see app incompatibilities. Different CPUs, GPUs, cameras, etc., causes developers to work extra hard to make them all work; this sometimes leads them to drop support for some either because of the extra work it would take or because the hardware is just two low end. This is especially true with games and a reason why I think iOS/WP7 will be the leading mobile gaming platforms in a couple of years.

A lot of people think that Android Market will suddenly become the best once Android's market share inevitably over runs iOS; and I personally think it wont because of fragmentation. I don't think people understand just how expensive it is to develop and design an app that is of the top ~10% iOS quality -- it's in the 100's of thousands. Supporting Android is just that much more difficult for developers. Then there's the fact that a lot of the increasing market share is coming from low end phones which: 1) will probably suffer the worse from the fragmentation problem (incompatibilities with apps), and 2) would most likely not even invest into many paid apps anyway.
[EVO 4G General] Brutal-Force:
Intel did it, M$ did it, AMD did it, Nvidia did it and Apple is doing it now. The reason we use Android is so that Corporations don't MAKE us do it. Also, companies like M$, Intel and Nvidia have been pulled into court for things like this. In the end, they "open" back up, because thats what people want.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
People want open? Really? People just want good phones.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Best example....

Most people upgrade their phones every two years. So it won't really matter so long in those two years we get at least one upgrade.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
So you'd be okay rocking a 1.6 phone right now and for maybe another year?
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
This may have been an issue a year ago but if you check this link:

http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html

you can see that 77% of android devices are 2.1 and 2.2. Newer versions of the OS will hopefully decouple software updates from the actual service carrier and phone manufacturer, increasing this percentage even further.

Google makes available many guides for deploying your application and being able to support across all versions. Also, the sdk easily allows you to target the newest version and features while still maintaining portability to older OS versions.

Basically, unless you are developing some crazy cutting edge application then 'fragmentation' is not an issue, hardware or software. Using that as a dividing factor with regards to gauging the success of the operating system is by now a stretch from the truth.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I'd argue that the large share of 2.1/2.2 devices is due to the fact that Android has finally gotten popular and sales of current devices has really picked up. So a majority of phones are currently newer 2.x devices. Lets see how this is once 2.3 is released and OEMs fail to keep them up to date just as how it has been in the past.
[EVO 4G General] elegantai:
That is one possibility, but if you look at the bottom of that page there is a stacked line graph representing the historical distribution over the past 6 months.

If you look at version 2.1 and compare its slope to 1.5/1.6 you can see that the older versions follow the same slope as the 2.1 slope, meaning that 2.1 phones were actually replacing physical phones running 1.5 and 1.6.

If you look at when 2.2 takes a steep upward slope you will not notice the same pattern of 2.1 and older following the slope of 2.2, which tells me that more people upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2.

So if this pattern holds, then hopefully it means phone manufactures are starting to realize the importance of providing newer operating systems for their devices. But as you said, we will see!
[EVO 4G General] clamknuckle:
It's fragmented, but people wouldn't care if all the apps worked across all versions. That's really the only problem.

The average person does not care how many mflops their device scores in linpack or what their quadrant score is, they just want to play Angry Birds, and their phone they bought last year can't, and they aren't able to upgrade yet.
[EVO 4G General] nolageek:
This.

10char.
[EVO 4G General] novanosis85:
Happy? No.

But I had my g1 for a year and was not itching for a new phone.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
It's more of an issue of hardware fragmentation which has nothing to do with Android except thats what the manufacturers want to put on low powered devices.

The fragmentation in Android is just as bad in iOS. (Look at their generations of iPhones and Touchs and you will find that some can't get the new iOS update which some apps require etc.)

Technology has always had some sort of fragmentation but Google is certainly doing some hard work in fixing it. If we could only get manufacturers to stop putting their own skins on the UI, updates would be out faster.
[EVO 4G General] nolageek:
^ This ^

10char
[EVO 4G General] frozndevl:
One also has to consider that android is playing catchup and releasing more versions currently to get the basic functionality of the OS up to speed. They j have said that they, being google, will slow down updates to a more reasonable rate now that android is basically feature complete. Android v1 also wasn't really a full version so that has helped drive the mass of releases.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
HI

is there not a class action lawsuit due to people upgrading 3gs to the lastest.and.theor.phpne now acts.like a turtle and.can not dpwngrade offically. Well its.not.fragmemted if u have to buy a new.phone when apple makes u
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The 3GS is fine, the problem was with the 3G. I don't know of any lawsuits but it did run slow, a update partly remedied the problem. From my own experiences on my old 3G, it seemed that the search indexing slowed it down. If you disabled indexing it ran much better. At least those with two year old phones got anything.
[Android Themes] james1123:
Hi, just wandering whether there is a theme/skin for any Android device that looks like the Galaxy S;:confused:

Thanks for any help.
[Android Themes] zHk3R:
There are a bunch of Galaxy S themes.

If not you can use the Samsung Launcher. It sucks, but if you want that look it's the best bet.
[Legend Android Development] goose2600:
Hi guys! does someone managed to downclock 2.6.32.17 kernel?

I have Modaco Custom Rom r4 and setcpu 2.0.4 (support for HTC kernels 2.6.32.17) says perflock disabler works, but when I try to downclock my cpu, the frequency changes continuously between the minimum and maximium clock (it seems that perflock disabler did not work).

Any ideas?

Thank you in advance!
[Legend Android Development] BlaY0:
If speed goes bellow 245 MHz, then perflock disabler actually worked...

Sent from my HTC Legend
[Legend Android Development] goose2600:
BlaY0, thanks for replying... anyway downclock does non works for me!

Does anyone who uses Modaco Custom Rom r4 can test if downclock works?
[Legend Android Development] were2:
w/o perfloc disabler and with regular kernel it wont go under 480mhz.

maybe you are using live wallpapers or something like that.
[Legend Android Development] goose2600:
I am using regular kernel (2.6.32.17) and I read somewhere that using regular kernel I can't overclock but I should be able to downclok under 480mhz.

(I am not using live wallpaper or sonmething like that)
[Legend Android Development] BlaY0:
After U disable perflock, U have to set upper and lower limit on 1st tab. To see how many cycles your proc stays on every frequency available, check info tab...

Sent from my HTC Legend
[Legend Android Development] goose2600:
Without using phone:

Time in state

128000 13227

245760 94789

480000 136737

600000 139756
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzmo:
So I'm running the SuperCDSI v4 & I've been meaning to try a Froyo rom, so I'm thinking of trying something new & I read about biffmod & the Sparksmod roms.

Which one do y'all think is "better" in terms of:

Speed

Visuals

& Performance?

Thanks in advance!

Sent from my awesome HTC Dream G1
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamal717:
I would say sparks :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzmo:
The sparks original or the remix?

Sent from my HTC Dream G1
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bunu:
I would say the rooted OTA 2.2.1 update.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzmo:
Is this what you're on about: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=811620
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjybarr:
SparksMod 1.3 Remix2 is awesome!! Visuals 5, Speed 5, Battery Life 4, Force Closes 5. Go test drive SparksMod and you won't turn to anything else haha
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzmo:
Saw your youtube review :p Flashing it as we speak :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamal717:
Yea biffs okay but i thinks sparks remix 2 is better especially if u have the new hboot nd radio for extra 15mb ram download set CPU and put it 576max n min and it flys =D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzmo:
Ah its awesome!

one question, on setscpu, how do i enter a custom value for the max? It only goes upto 528.

Sorry for sounding like a retarded noob :D

EDIT: NVM :d
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamal717:
haha yea and people have tutorials to make your phone run faster like for sparks i think they recomend Compache -Off JIT- ON lock in home memory windows animations and transitions fast i think then restart your phone it should run better
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzmo:
Done & done! Also, which home do you use? LauncherPro or ADW? Cuz apparently, both are installed & they use storage & memory, so I want to remove one.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjybarr:
Adw seems to work better than launcherpro. I found out that launcherpro works good for awhile, but then it starts to bogged down your phone and so far adw has not bogged down my phone. I have been using adw for about 2 weeks now.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blahbl4hblah:
Sparksmod FTW, it's better than biffmod and in my opinion it's more stable along with the ramhack. The speed you get from sparksmod is just better than biffmod in my opinion.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzmo:
Hmmm, after reading a couple of reviews, I'm sticking with LauncherPro at the moment. & I need to update to v1.4 cause this rom is jus' friggin' awesome!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzmo:
I know right! :D I need to flash the new 1.4 rom now & I'm searching for ramhack atm :D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blahbl4hblah:
here's the link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831139
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mzmo:
Nicee! Flashing as we speak. Is there any difference between the 2.22.27.08 & the 2.22.28.25? Cause I read the 2.22.27.08 is more "stable"...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamal717:
ADW is so much better to me haha its faster :) launcher pro sometimes gives me Fcs
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azrash:
zeam launcher

you can try zeam launcher, i just got my g1 2 days ago, and ive tried launcher pro plus as well, but it lagged a couple of times, so i google and found zeam launcher, eventhough its an oldie, but it is a goodie zeam.org
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadowch31:
Were did you read that because it's highly laughable :D

Only difference is 28.25 has a few security updates included and performs no better or worse and I have extensively used both.
[Fascinate General] billakid:
I have all drivers installed It mounted before I had some voodoo issues.. but now i connect it and it recognizes phone and it charges.. but when i hit mount nothin happen only one time it showed me an error saying "windows cannot read this its read only file blah blah click to format it" when i try to format it it fails every time..
[Fascinate General] fraz1776:
'm having the same problem...........very annoying!
[Fascinate General] garywojdan81:
I just had something similar happen. I had a flaky connection in the cable that came with the phone, intermittant charging/ hide & seek with my laptop. It would see the SD card but not access it. New cable, had same problem so I uninstalled & reinstalled the Samsung drivers and that fixed it. The mass storage driver was corrupted by the flaky connection I think.
[General Questions and Answers] ahmad598:
Hi

I live in Iran and here, tweeter is censored. so there is no direct way to access it. but for example, we have Opera Mini that uses a proxy to connect to web, and so it bypasses the censorship. is there any similar app (you know, i mean android app) that uses a proxy to connect to tweeter?

Thanx dudes ;-)
[General Questions and Answers] MLonon:
Built-in Proxy

I do not what device you have but I would suggest getting a ROM with a working built-in proxy and using it for ALL of your communications...just saying...
[General Questions and Answers] ahmad598:
But the problem is that i dont have a proxy server myself, so i want to use an app that it has!
[Windows Phone 7 General] perturbedtulip:
Hi. The prior versions of the Windows phones allowed for more configuration options in the "ringtones and sounds" area. Has anyone figured out where to configure things like preventing incoming text messages from scrolling as text across the top of the phone screen? Or how to have incoming texts "vibrate" even if the phone has the ringer enabled? It seems like most of the configuration options that used to live in this area are gone.

Thanks for any tips.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tai4de2:
There are no "prior versions" of Windows Phone 7; it is a v1 product.

Windows Mobile was a different product with different goals and therefore different configuration options.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tanjiajun_34:
Is there any color fix, sharpness fix that comes without the lag fix itself. I don't 1 2 install it together. I 1 2 use another lag fix.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
There is, check out the development forum.. its one of the popular kernels
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattj949:
Model: SGH-T849 | Code: TMB | Version: T849UVJJA/T849TMBJJA/T849UVJJA/T849UVJJA

Anyone have this or a dump of one? I flashed mine and want to go back to stock but no one seems to have it.

I'll *pay* for it. I thought I had backed it up before playing around, but I did not do it correctly or something and lost my original FW. :confused:

I don't want to have to "kill it" and take it back to T-Mo for a replacement if I can avoid it.

Can anyone help?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rotohammer:
If you just want your 3G Internet back, all you have to do is flash the US modem.bin back.

Get it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9305891&postcount=1

I haven't succeeded in flashing back the whole firmware yet. I'm pretty happy with the Euro firmware.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bulldebeerman:
Me to but i still like 3g better ebge is to slow
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jay_jay_n:
Curious would tmobile take it back with the euro rom would they check? What would be best to do or what do they check for, I'm thinking of canceling and just buying contact free from amazon to avoid taxes
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clubtech:
I think the op means that the stock firmware is on the Samsung FUS server and can downloaded if you know the URL. This willow people to go back to stock 100%.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wawoox:
I read a thread about a backup software that can be used..

is it possible to backup the whole roms and software of the tab before doing any flashing or modding to the original roms ...?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x2beach:
I have the entire Original rom backed up
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattj949:
How can I get it from you? I'll gladly paypal or whatever. I can do the modem.bin thing too I guess too.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jay_jay_n:
Pls post any info about flashing back the stock firmware
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wawoox:
This if great x2beach,...

do you like to share how did you do the backup, and does is restore the tab to its original state completely, thanks.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattj949:
I did put the modem.bin back in (thanks for the info/link!) ... it works again but I think I have the bands messed up (was playing with them) and I get Edge then H only.. no 3g.

I still want the full original firmware and will pay for it. :)
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rotohammer:
H is 3G, just faster. As far as the rest of the firmware, just wait for an official release, then you can flash it for free.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wawoox:
Hi Roto

so if I want voice call on the tmobile version ....can I just flash the euro modem.bin instead of flashing all the Euro firmware...

and will I need to unlock and rooting to do that...?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rotohammer:
Nope, the Euro firmware has the dialer, which is needed as well.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PavelX1:
Hello, i am in situation like mattj949 - searching for original SGH-T849 rom or modem, can i get from someone pls modem or whole T849 rom?

Regards Pavel
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guho:
I just got an SGH-T849 yesterday, still at stock. I was thinking of flashing Overcome 1.4.0 rom and associated kernel. Now I came across this thread with posters frantically trying to go back to stock. So should ileave mine alone? Stock works fine although I noticed some wifi-quirks.

Thanks for your insights.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gophet:
just do a rotobackup or download the stock firmware from this site provided by rotohammer
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hosamsad:
I want the same original ROM for SGH-T849 t-mobile version

I install 2.3.3 but almost I lost a lot of stuff and now the new OS can't amount the internal SD card

I can't even get root access and can't connect USB.

So I need to recover the original ROM, any help will be amazing

thanks in advanced
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jokermuthu:
Dear Rotohammer,

I am in very bad situation, kindly help me. I have wiped my cache on my T849, it was totally unlocked, since I am very new to TAB I did accidently wiped everything. Now I need firmwares and perfect guidance.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GR8784:
Can anyone help me how do you flash a tmo tab and i need to flash it i'm not getting any 3g only e? Can someone please help me.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wnowacki:
Need Tmobile Galaxy Tab firmware

My Tab won't boot, but I can get it into download mode. I already have the modem file, but need the original firmware.

Not sure if I need the original ROM... please help!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aquariuzz:
I need this ROM too, please help us
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flybd5:
It never ceases to amaze me how many nimrods reply with stupid comments when someone asks for the original rom for this tab. There must be six threads about this on the board and all have the same braindead comebacks, or mystic references to nebulous URLs. If you know where to get the original stock ROM and modem.bin say so, otherwise you should just keep your motormouth shut...
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1gangstabob2:
Hey XDA,

i have installed a ROM from here and i've got it deleted with task29 but what do i have to do now my Xperia X1 just stays on the sony ericsson logo and freezes there.

what do i have to do? :(
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lokatho:
Flash a ROM, custom or stock....;)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Awassenaar:
You can search for the video tutorials made by Biovolt. Or if you allready know how to flash, then just put your phone in Bootloader mode and flash away! ;)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1gangstabob2:
thats the problem,how do i flash without a ROM on my phone?

(i just only can get in the tripple color screen)
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kjk:
That's the solution just connect you x1 to computer with tripple color screen and flash a rom.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1gangstabob2:
How do i flash a ROM then?
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Epsylon:
You wrote, that you've deleted your rom with task29. Do it on the same way, just replace the kovsimg.nbh file that's in the task29s folder with another one what you can find here on the site. just ownload one and put it there, most of them are in 7z zip or rar, so first unpack it and when you find a custom-ruu.nbh just rename it to kovsimg.nbh or maybe it's already named to kovsimg.nbh(energy roms). on the first time I renamed the zip file, and i didn't understand what's the problem. :D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1gangstabob2:
My phone is just stuck on 0% and then Task29 shows update error 262 What do i have to do now?