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[Legend General] loscassapalle:
guys,

our legend is beautiful, expensive and anything else you want...but is still a mid-range phone. an high-end phone doesn't have a 600Mhz processor!

low-end phone, obviously, doesn't mean a 30€ one :)

if you want you can say that it's an high-end phone, but all the articles talks aboout a mid-range phone
[Legend General] ananthm2k5:
Yes its has specs of a mid range phone but you must also note that it has a price of a high end phone.
[Legend General] shara6:
what does it mean if you have official support from cyanogen?? if there's a software update, will you have it without flashing/resetting the phone? will it have FOTA?

sorry for the noob question...
[Legend General] dublevay:
Oh come on! Next we'll be comparing &*%" size. I appreciate that the Desire has HD video with the Froyo update - but there isn't a great deal else that it does which is groundbreaking. My fiancee has more issues with her Desire crashing (on 2.2) than I do with my Legend.

All? Even the ones that can be found by typing "HTC Legend High End" into Google? :p

At the end of the day, you can come along and call the Legend a mid-range phone now, if you want (though I still contend that the Wildfire is mid-range, and from a look at HTC's website, the Smart would be low-end), but when I originally bought mine, it was pretty much just released, predated the Desire, and was high-end, and actually was top-of-the-range.

So there you go. I bought a top-of-the-range HTC Android phone - and therefore I expect Froyo on it. ;)

Those of you who bought it once the Desire came out should not expect Froyo.
[Legend General] dublevay:
I don't think it should make a difference. I know that for rooting your phone, you sometimes need to go back a version, but for official ROMs, surely HTC can set it so that both 1.xx.xx and 2.05.xx can migrate directly to 3.xx.xx?
[Legend General] amstuzmarco:
Some news:

German:

In English (Google translation)

Source: HTC Germany Facebook

http://www.facebook.com/htcde?v=wall
[Legend General] mcuppens:
I suppose it won't take much longer now???

"HTC releases source code for Legend Froyo update"

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-releases-source-code-legend-froyo-update#comments
[Legend General] jorgesalvador:
Adding insult to the injury, now it's crystal clear that the update is done and they are holding it on purpose...
[Legend General] loscassapalle:
that means that we have not to wait htc, but xda devs...i suppose...
[Legend General] Timothye:
YEpp , cannot agree more . DAMN HTC !

This will be my last HTC mobile .
[Legend General] Teeceman:
What are HTC playing at, this is strange still no unbranded firmware for the Legend.
[Legend General] taleboblen:
Very weird. Maybe HTC is doing some sort of social study on Android device costumers and updates.... :S
[Legend General] dublevay:
Is that where you can put your phone in a dress or a pair of trousers? :D
[Legend General] sveon:
Just to note something...

The newest file in the kernel source released by HTC is dated November 19, 2010.

I guess after Vodafone?
[Legend General] taleboblen:
Funny pick on the foreigner... :P
[Legend General] dublevay:
Hey, I wasn't picking on you. 'Picking on someone' is bullying. I was pulling your leg. That is very different.
[Legend General] nolook:
ya something like 'how angry can customers really get'? i will be getting a 'google experience' phone as my next phone for sure...

cant someone just compile the rom if they released the source code?
[Legend General] taleboblen:
I know i'm kidding.... :-)
[Legend General] dublevay:
Oh, that's it...pick on the newbie!! ;):D
[Legend General] netdias:
This is starting to be a Brotherhood instead of a Forum Topic LOL
[Legend General] Timothye:
Better than arguing

-.-
[Legend General] sveon:
I think this is just the kernel source code - no Sense, no apps. I guess it's useless unless you are building your own ROM.
[Legend General] kleutscher:
Well get it tommorow.

Someone asked markmoons when Froyo will arrive.

He said in a cryptic way tommorow. A cryptic answer that only dutch people understand that celebrate sinterklaas.

Answer translated is:

It will be allright. Place your shoe. Sing song. Etc:)

In the dutch tradition you place your shoe on sinterklaas. Sing a song and you will find a present the next day in your shoe.
[Legend General] goofy_zoef:
Sinterklaas is the 6th of December... Hope he didn't mean that!!!
[Legend General] kleutscher:
You dont place your shoe on sinterklaas day self.

Sinterklaas comes in mid november to the netherlands till the 6th of december. In between these days you can place your shoe and sing a song and find a present in your shoe. On the 5th of December its the actual celebration date of sinterklaas with presents etc.
[Legend General] kleutscher:
So there is no shoe placing on the 5th and 6th of December and sinterklaas leaves on the 6th
[Legend General] goofy_zoef:
Still I think 6th of December will be closer to the release date. But I still hope you are right! :-)
[Legend General] Söderström:
6th December is on a monday.
[Legend General] kleutscher:
But sinterklaas isn't on the 6th its celebrated on the 5th. He leaves on the 6th in the early morning. Believe me I'm dutch and celebrated it many many years:).
[Legend General] goofy_zoef:
Very weird, already many years we celebrate it on the 6th in Belgium, but you dutch people always want to be first... ;-)
[Legend General] -MojaV-:
I guess we will see tomorrow. Although that has been my thought for the past two weeks or so...
[Legend General] kleutscher:
Officialy sinterklaas his birthday is on the 6th in the Netherlands its celebrated on the 5th and the major of dutch people don't know that his birthday Officialy is on the 6th. Correct me if I'm wrong.

And markmoons lives in the Netherlands. So I'm sure he means the 5th.
[Legend General] fac51:
So you guys think they may release it on a day other than a Monday? From what I've been reading HTC always release updates on a Monday but I'm no expert.
[Legend General] kleutscher:
Yeah I understand mojav.

But if its tomorrow I don't know of it is only in the Netherlands or worldwide. At least then we know for sure its released somewhere and others will follow.
[Legend General] kleutscher:
The major of the updates are released on Monday. But not all. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[Legend General] ViktorX:
My last update was on thursday for others dont remember :-)
[Legend General] troupierLEON:
So do I get it right that this old man with his long beard and his red cape is blameworthy for the delay of Froyo? Ok... so maybe he will find something special in my shoe ... like.. let's say a printer cartrigde e.g. ... :P
[Legend General] loscassapalle:
lol

xda devs invaded by sinterklaas history

we all love Anglo-Saxon people:)
[Legend General] taleboblen:
No more checking the thread for now, im going for some beer and live music...
[Legend General] AngeloLegend:
that sounds way better.
[Legend General] fac51:
Ah good to know, fingers crossed then :)
[Legend General] gallery:
My last update for legend was on tuesday
[Legend General] tigerbauch:
Samichlaus du liebe Maa,gäll ich mues keis Froyo haa?
[Legend General] ananthm2k5:
Exactly !
[Legend General] mtrax:
I don't understand why the delay as they have released source code why not the ROM
[Legend General] amstuzmarco:
Klar müesse mr froyo ha, huere siech nonämau :D
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
In English please.. this is an international forum ;)
[Legend General] nethopper:
No translation please, he lost his temper and used inappropriate language. Guys, if Froyo is the only excitement in your live, you should consider different forums... ;) This attitude of "we deserve it" can lead to uncontrolled behaviour. Very interesting different characters posting here. ;)
[Legend General] oysteivi:
Is tomorrow a Monday in the Netherlands? ;)
[Legend General] mancrunch:
It is if you smoke to much ****
[Legend General] JagaHee:
If anyone already got the official update, please post some screenshots! Also some scrrens without HTC Sense would be great!
[Legend General] jorgesalvador:
There is no official update today, it was just another rumor.
[Legend General] :
There IS an official update, it's just for vodafone. Screenshots would be nice...
[Legend General] amstuzmarco:
Numä nid übertreibä :D

Just do not overdo it :P
[Legend General] ananthm2k5:
Well clearly singing to my shoe did not help. It probably only works for the dutch.
[Legend General] chirusal2009:
UPDATE available in Romania.....i have no idea what kind of, but it just start to download on unbranded Legend :D

It is FROYO update, firmaware 3.5.....installing right now
[Legend General] AngeloLegend:
Yes!

Yes!

Yes.
[Legend General] nikst4:
wow, good news!! :)
[Legend General] -MojaV-:
Anybody else got it? My phone doesnt find any updates :confused:
[Legend General] iHans:
Nothing in Estonia either :(
[Legend General] zulfator:
I hope this is not somekind of a joke...hope not ; )
[Legend General] janarp:
jep nothing here... so sad..:(
[Legend General] iodine:
Nothing here in .CA
[Legend General] kuklux:
i think this is a joke... no update http://zubu.ca/legend/fota_check.php
[Legend General] chirusal2009:
Yes, it is Android 2.2 now

build number 3.14.177.1 cl......

i download it in about 1 minute and install up to 10 minute i think....at one step i soo Foto_FroYo_Vodafone...bla bla bla. I don't have a Vodafone SIM and it is working with my network

....different visual effect...and i got the same boot image with an A1 no ideea why :eek:

go for update my dear friends...

it is not a joke....

i had build number 2.05.177.2 cl....
[Legend General] ab1cor:
Nothing in Spain... If somebody is joking with this, he'll get banned.
[Legend General] mcuppens:
Maybe the version used in Romania is not included in the list?

Nothing here in Belgium anyway :-(
[Legend General] DeeJayDark UE:
it's clearly a joke!!! I checked all rom versions for the update and nothing!
[Legend General] mcuppens:
That's the VF update, released 2 weeks ago...
[Legend General] DeeJayDark UE:
Romanian buld number is 1.31.405.5 CL154058 same as mine!!!!!
[Legend General] chirusal2009:
I have been checking 1 mounth (3 times per day for update) for update and today was the day.....i have Cosmote Sim working properly in my phone

I have Romanian build number 2.05.177

I have update from 1.31 to 2.05.177 in bucharest.
[Legend General] janarp:
i have same build number... no update
[Legend General] DeeJayDark UE:
yes it's vodafone branded phone.
[Legend General] gr1pp5:
Nothing in the UK. Someone is joking.
[Legend General] mcuppens:
Anyway, Mark Moons posted this on his twitter a few hours ago:

Meaning: It's coming people, we're talking days (not weeks or months)... Some already have it and are very happy with it.
[Legend General] nikst4:
seems to be VF branded with no simlock.... :rolleyes:
[Legend General] fac51:
Nothing in the UK for build 1.31.405.5, just sitting tight and waiting.
[Legend General] chirusal2009:
so that f**** ressaler lied...how can i check if it is vodafone without simlocker ???? and why after update it steel running under another network ?
[Legend General] Chaotick:
Mark Moors seems to bo confident that it's coming in the near days...seems alot like "couple more days" and "coming soon"....seems like more BS to me.

You froYo is out there allright....But why on Vodafone only Legends not the "trully" unbranded.
[Legend General] TiceRex:
Branded and simlocked are different things.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
It might be not the same thing but in Poland carriers brand the phones to them and place thieir simlock at the same time.....ergo my assumption that branded automaticly means simlocked...At least in Poland.
[Legend General] chirusal2009:
I am sorry if it looked as a joke, but my phone is not locked, and the romanian vodafone bring only locked phones in the network :| so it is a big dilema for me too
[Legend General] AngeloLegend:
Was it really froyo?
[Legend General] ViktorX:
They released Froyo kernel source code so it is coming soon, I guess...

http://developer.htc.com/
[Legend General] -MojaV-:
Knew it was too good to be true... Here in Norway HTC says that "its impossible to know when Froyo will come" and that "they have to make customized ROMs for every network" which is a load of BS, atleast for the unbranded ones.
[Legend General] AngeloLegend:
i hope we will get the new sense UI too
[Legend General] troupierLEON:
It was released for the austrian A1 branded Legends today...

german source: http://www.androidpit.de/de/android/forum/thread/402786/Froyo-fuers-Legend?si=540
[Legend General] jorgesalvador:
So yeah, apparently they are going to release all branded versions first for some reason. I'm starting to wonder if they plan to release an unbranded version AT ALL ...
[Legend General] fac51:
Where did you hear that?
[Legend General] goofy_zoef:
I think Jorge means: first Vodafone branded Legend, now Austrian A1... Normally unbranded HTC phones get served first!
[Legend General] BOversoe:
... Now released for 2 sets of branded phones... Really HTC??.. You've got to be kidding me...
[Legend General] troupierLEON:
I have to add, that A1 seems to be some kind of a sub-brand of Vodafone... so maybe the same firmware?
[Legend General] ab1cor:
I think they sold more branded devices, let's say 70% for example; so now they're just thinking in money and their future and work harder for this 70% and the other 30% can just **** off... cool strategy lol
[Legend General] tigerbauch:
Htc is testing a bit harder than vodafone/a1. I will get a froyo without the init bug. It's like the sms bug; no problems with the unbranded devices.
[Legend General] neverg:
Not true. Unbranded and I got the SMS Bug.
[Legend General] ab1cor:
How have you got Froyo?
[Legend General] justcookiesncream:
Some say that the Init bug is the pressing of the home and back key together to make the phone unusable , correct me if I'm wrong

Hey and btw will contacts be lost from 2.1>2.2 If not i'll export them to my SD card just to be safe:0
[Legend General] lessirey:
No, you won't be losing anything by applying the update.

But backing up is always a good idea. You never know if anything could go wrong. Just incase..
[Legend General] dannsf:
Ok. NOW I am confused.

I emailed HTC since my case is a bit more complicated (or at least I think it may be) - I bought my phone is Hong Kong but am currently in Portugal studying: will there be a delay for me to get the update?

Their answer?

"Kindly note that for the time being we have no information yet, when the FROYO update will be released for HTC Legend. Please check our website regularly to be updated with latest releases and new updates."

"No information??!" I thought there WAS information out. I thought that people HAD contacted HTC before and THEY said that the update would be rolling out before the end of November.

Can anyone please explain and hopefully try to give me a possible clarification to my issue? :/

Thanks and sorry for the rant :/
[Legend General] lessirey:
You should be receiving your update the same time when people at Hong Kong gets it (if its branded.. then, it would be when the branded people out there gets it), unless if you have flashed your legend with another ROM.

It depends on your current ROM, not where you are located.

You are talking to a normal customer service guy, you would've got a different answer if it was a different person.

They just gave you a generic, fail proof answer. (aka "we wont tell you")

As we've seen from many correspondence users had with htc, their support system is not very well informed about every actions taken by the company unless it is formally informed to each and every one of them by the company. A support center at one region can have more information than the other, all of them does not share the same information. it changes from region to region. and yes, their support sucks !
[Legend General] moses23:
the A1 froyo update is indeed the same as the vodafone:

software version 3.14.177.1

if you take a look at the packetname, you'll see it clearly:

Checking update for 2.05.177.2...

Found http fotadl.htc.com/OTA_Legend_Froyo_S_Vodafone_AT_GER_Mobilkom_3.14.177.1-2.05.177.2_release_136766_156979h6vst6mdtj4013sm.zip

I emailed A1 yesterday, asking them for the update. I got the "information", that they don't know the release date. 5 hours later we got the update.
[Legend General] bullchicken:
For any people who have the taiwanese version I just got this:

Dear Bullchicken,

Thank you for contacting HTC Corporation.

With regards to your enquiry, HTC legend will get it's upgrade this month. The exact date is not set but you should be able to received our Android 2.2 upgrade this month.

We are sorry for any inconvenience to you.

Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services.

Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

We look forward to be of service to you again.

HTC William
[Legend General] JagaHee:
Anybody who already got Froyo, please show screens how it looks without HTC Sense!! Or It is too hard for you?
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Those who got FROYO WITHOUT SENSE is not using these updates.. READ AND LEARN.. Froyo without sense.. Use CM 6 or any other custom Rom..

The releases in this post it WITH sense.. I'm using it.. and there are NO OTHER launcher than SENSE in it..

Stop asking for NON-sense version in a thread about the SENSE-release!!!
[Legend General] AngeloLegend:
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

Hahaha
[Legend General] JagaHee:
"without Sense" i meant turning on the Home Screen instead of Sense? Why you so angry? :confused:
[Legend General] netdias:
The all release of the 2.2 for Legend also have no sense :rolleyes:
[Legend General] ebaak:
I dont have froyo yet but I know that when the desire got updated to froyo, the ability to "Force Close" sense from "Manage Applications" was removed.

Can anyone confirm that for Legend?
[Legend General] dublevay:
What was your update?

UPDATE: Please ignore...thought I was responding to the last message in the thread!! D'oh!
[Legend General] AngeloLegend:
so its really out?
[Legend General] iodine:
No, not out. ;(
[Legend General] coldfurify:
And in Holland; still no Froyo for me. Little question: does my phone having software number 1.31.405.5 have anything to do with when I get Froyo OTA? Do I need an update before I get Froyo? My phone says it's up-to-date though so I was guessing I'd just wait. (3 more days? :P)
[Legend General] Chaotick:
Just made up my mind about the Legend update... Regardless of the outcome in the more or less distant future (when it will be available in Poland and the price will be barable ) I will buy HTC 7 Mozart. At least MS garantees constant update of Windows Phone & devices.

As a friend of mine pointed out the Android software update is pretty unpredictable ...2.3 is not going to be on Legend anyway ( only in CM ver. MAYBE) Not to mention the 3.0 Android....etc.

As for now I don't bother much with it....when FOTA message will comeso be it... ^^
[Legend General] iodine:
Windows Phone... lol .... After my HTC Touch (WM6.1), XBOX 360 and Zune, I vowed never to purchase another MS electronic device again.
[Legend General] CrazyPeter:
LOL, go ahead. People will laugh at you in the street with a WinMo7 phone.. Like all Microsoft hardware, it's junk. Xbox = junk, Zune = Junk, WinMo = Junk...
[Legend General] lessirey:
Technically, htc mozart is not an MS electronic device, its an electronic device made by htc :p

Of course with an MS operating system, but still can't compare it with xbox or zune.

People laugh at you on all sorts of things, people laughed at me many times thinking my htc is some crappy china phone (coz, our market it flooded with flashy looking china touch screen handsets) again, htc mozart is not an MS hardware. i thought it was obvious from the name !

I'd still stay away from windoze though.
[Legend General] latorante:
Dear Martin,

Thank you for contacting HTC Technical Support.

While we regret to hear that you have found the wait for the 2.2 Android update for the HTC Legend frustrating, we would like to thank you for your helpful feedback.

Please note that using any unofficial ROM upgrade will invalidate your HTC warranty.

Hopefully this latest news will clarify things for you:

Q. When can I have Android 2.2 for my HTC Legend?

A. There will be an upgrade to your phone that will be released as FOTA from end of November. If you would like, we can call you back when the upgrade is officially released, or if you prefer to check yourself, you can go to http://www.htc.com/. On our website, click on Support and you could see the news of HTC product.
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
I'm sorry but...

lol
[Legend General] Snowtoad23:
What does my 2.02.178.3 version mean!?
[Legend General] tnakir:
Cross your fingers for tomorrow morning.
[Legend General] janarp:
u really belive that we get FROYO tomorrow???

i hope that too but i dont belive that...=)=)

who knows...=)=)
[Legend General] Phollux:
I REALLY hope tomorrow ! :)
[Legend General] janarp:
so do i...
[Legend General] ananthm2k5:
well it was predicted elsewhere in the forum that it will come "tomorrow"
[Legend General] kuklux:
All i can say is tomorrow never dies
[Legend General] fac51:
No it's predicted it will Die another Day. Hope it is tomorrow though ;)
[Legend General] tnakir:
Well, both HTC romania and italy said it will be rolled in next few days, and HTC rolls updates always on monday.
[Legend General] madcat340:
I think it will come Monday 29th since that's the last Monday of November XD
[Legend General] tnakir:
Could be. They stated it will be out in the second part of november. Everything is possible
[Legend General] sjaak1234:
Or maybe tomorrow ;)

Anyway, I got a question about the new IME. In the whats new topic I read there are now various different inputs available. Would anybody happen to know if Japanese input will be one if them? I now use simeji but to be honest the keyboard is nowhere near as good as the htc one and it lacks some features like hiding the keyboard.
[Legend General] brianlang:
Well it's monday morning in Denmark and no froyo so far.
[Legend General] ThE_mASk:
Monday morning in Bulgaria, still no Froyo :S
[Legend General] bullchicken:
Monday night in New Zealand and nothing yet :)
[Legend General] Chaotick:
SAme in Poland....What do you expect...event the updates are sleeping this time of night :P:P
[Legend General] tnakir:
Croatia here, T-Mobile... nothing yet :)

Vodafone OTA update was released later, about 9 oclock. I gues HTC guys like to drink their coffee in piece before doing some business. :)

Keep your fingers crossed.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
Wating for my Legend to evolve :).
[Legend General] DeeJayDark UE:
it's a common build number for wwe htc legend and it should update directly to froyo!
[Legend General] Chaotick:
I'm afraid you confuse Windows phone 7 with windows mobile 6.x. The platform is something completly diffrent.

I'm running Windows 7 OS and it is a big improvement over the previous Xp's and Vista. Nothing wrong with that.As a day to day desktop operating system its splendid.

As for the whole laughing people at me in the street...it did happen once or twice because I'm quiet funny looking :). But don't confuse me with a fool who takes a big slab of money and goes to by a new phone in a hearthbeat. First of all I would like to test it and since technically it's not in any of Polish shops nor in Orange to which Mozart is restricted to I cannot. Or any WP7 in fact. Then i would like an opinion of someone who actually tested it and used it over a period of at least a month....An them perhaps if funds will allow.....maybe buy then.

the whole windows is sh*t approach I understand because I was one of those who said so....but that was in the past however. MS (colloquially known as Microsh*t ^^) has improved over the last year. Don't just point out that something is sh*t if you don;t have reasonable arguments to support your theory.
[Legend General] iodine:
"Why do you think Sinterklaas will not bring frozen yogurt? Are you not kind? ;-)" -- Mark Moons

"@ RayGarden just talked to Sinterklaas ... will be fine. ;-)" -- Mark Moons