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[Windows Phone 7 General] c_legaspi:
as a user coming from wm, wp7 is terrible. not a big fan of its simple ui tile looks. i know its fairly new but its not impressing at all. im glad that i can run it on my hd2 otherwise if i bought a wp7 phone, i would have returned it or would have gotten buyers remorse. good thing i can revert back my os on my hd2.

dont know why others rave about wp7. the os may run fast but it maybe because its so stripped down. hope the updates turns this system around and better instant messaging apps/support.
[Windows Phone 7 General] idonxda:
so you think your **** 6.5 is better than os? Go and get proper win 7 phone and see the beauty of os, it is as equal as other **** android ir ios as they were when they come first in the market and wp7 is far ahead in that sense.

Update will not change os dramatically but just improve add few additional feature. This forum is for people who appreviate wp7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eternalemb:
You WM6 fanboys are damn near as bad as the Android kiddies. I love my Omnia II and still love having WM6.5.3 to use with a custom ROM but GTFO here with your hate! WP7 is an infant, of course it has deficiencies at the moment, but guess what? It'll soon own all other OSs. We've already got mass storage, file explorers, registry editors, custom theme colors, tethering, a much better media player than android or wm6 can provide (except maybe for Nitrogen, that things awesome)..soon well get copy and paste, flash, Silverlight, html5, even faster loading apps, and other features WITHOUT having to turn our phones into laggy turtles...ahem...like I said, I love WM6.5 and think it owns Android, but quit hating, just makes you sound like an idiot fan boy...
[Windows Phone 7 General] c_legaspi:
gee didnt see that coming.....knew i would offend someone. guess you got to love your child unconditionaly...even if people think its ugly. who knows, like i said its still young and hopefully it grows up to be a beautiful os.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Just ignore them and carry on as always. The WP7 fanboys are bound to troll so don't be offended by it. I love my HD7 just as much as anyone, but I acknowledge it's shortcomings and have no trouble voicing those severe shortcomings. The fanboys take it as an insult to themselves.
[Windows Phone 7 General] saldawop:
All of you guys need to grow up. It is like being in a playground here.

We are talking about phones! If you like it, great. If you don't. well, good for you .Who gives a flying fig?

Of course if you ARE adolescent schoolboys then carry on
[Windows Phone 7 General] oscar2010:
I'm missing the ability to send group sms and in the peoples hub a kind of overview showing all communication with the contact like sent text messages and emails.

As listening music and watching videos, I noticed that it is not possible to fast forward or rewind.
[Windows Phone 7 General] confrontation:
A couple things I would like to see in an update , just personal hangups I find in with contacts and system volumes.

1st: Separate contact list such as Phone contacts and social network contacts.

I hate them all in together.

2nd: Separate system volume sounds such as default system volume , notification volume , ringing volume and media volume.

Hate pulling out my earphones and then forgetting the volume is set to where it was left while listening to music and then not hearing notification sound.

I love WP7 , I love the shuffling on the media player , I find it better then the iphone and android devices where they most times shuffle between a selected amount of artists where I find WP7 shuffles alot more artist.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kennyken747:
"As announced at CES, we will soon be releasing updates to Windows Phone 7 that reflect the feedback we have been receiving from customers and partners to improve the products we deliver. These updates will be pushed out to our existing customers and will include several changes. The two most noteworthy for Windows Phone users are the addition of copy and paste, and significant performance improvements when loading or switching between applications."

Heh. We all know they have a bunch of stuff up their sleeves for MWC next month for reveals about late 2011 such as MANGO, but something is telling me they didn't spill even half the details about NoDo. I mean, it is called NO DOUGH, it is supposed to laugh in Android Donut's face. To only bring Copy and Paste and speed improvements would not make it a super significant update. I mean obviously other LITTLE things will be included in NoDo but I believe some things that are big to US may not be as big to THEM, therefore they didn't announce it early at CES. Or rather, MS thought them to be big enough to save for the hype factor for February/March (MWC/CDMA support)

And something is also telling me that they are now leaning towards more than just *some* updates between NoDo and Mango. Let's see, 8-9 months from now I'd say Mango would drop. We could see NoDo and ~3 small updates by then, including the one with CDMA support unless that is to be included in NoDo.

Bottom line is this: They would want to save some biggies to create hype around MWC time, it would make sense. If you were made sad by the fact that CES brought little news about our beloved OS' first update, cheer up and gear up for February. It will all fall into place very shortly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gms0012:
there are rumors, that it will come around february 7 th

http://dotlive.blog.de/2011/01/30/phone-7-update-7-februar-10464746/
[Windows Phone 7 General] Mogreen:
It will be nice to have it in English.......
[Windows Phone 7 General] nok_fusion:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38213/windows-phone-7-coming-7feb
[Windows Phone 7 General] skythunder83:
Update!!!

Is there any one know when the update will be ready??

It's the end of the January and I cant' see any update!!!!

Help me if I should be doing something.

Thx
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
It's not out and we're not sure when its coming out.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
can you read??? :mad:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Thresher:
It is possible. Just hold the Forward button down for a few moments. :eek:
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
now Feb 7 2011 is not far away anyway....
[Windows Phone 7 General] loomx:
Do you even have the phone? because its clearly obvious that you can, open a new sms, and add a name or as many other names as you want, or click the (+) button on the "To:" box that should be obvious enough...

And fast forward/re wind... like most media players ;) hold the forward or back buttons.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Titus_Andronicus:
I think it would be better to change the "Bluetooth Transfer" to "Bluetooth Profiles". This would include all type of Bluetooth including the one I want, SPP.
[Windows Phone 7 General] matthewharmon102:
correct me if im wrong, but windows phone 7 was released as the base os, and then future updates would add features? i would like an app manager to switch between apps easily (i suppose you need true multi-tasking for that) and a combined inbox like in the newer android builds. if these features exist please tell me where they are, i only installed wp7 about 20 mins ago so im a complete n00b :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] CSMR:
This will come later.

You cannot install wp7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Derek0228:
Of course, you can, if you've got an hd2. ;) <--- I'm running WP7+Android this same instant. (Well, not install, flash of course.)

HD2 ROCKS!!!!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] matthewharmon102:
im currently dual booting, but i think im goig to switch to wp7 only soon. yer i have a hd2 so i can install/flash wp7 :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] toothfish:
Does anyone know if any camera issues will be considered in the future updates?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Anthonok:
As of right now it is not changed in the new update
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
do you guys think the Mango update would kill the present/1st gen WP7 devices, like the iOS 4 killed the 3G by making it a bit laggier? Or maybe this update would be more geared to those new devices leaving us early adopters, guinea pigs (It’s not easy being an early adopter :( )? Since by that time, newer devices could already be out, and MS would have already rolled out the support for the next gen Snapdragon CPU's and GPU's
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
to be honest, microsoft is a lot more customer friendly when it comes to dealing with outdated tech than apple is. look at desktop, windows 7 can run on a 1ghz machine. and 1ghz machine was the top end of pentium 3. that's right, pentium 3, not 4. 3 was released back in like 98 to 2000, meaning that it is working on 10 year old hardware. sure, it's not the best to run on, but it will run.

i was given an apple g3... i couldn't even upgrade the OS because the later versions didn't support it, and that was only 3 or 4 years later.

with MS, they know how to support hardware for long durations, apple choose not to because they want your money.

i believe the first crop of windows phone will last a minimum of 2 years (the life of most contracts bar canada).
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
You do realize the reason Win7 even exists is for more money? When netbooks started becoming more and more popular, well before tablets arrived on the scene, MS's only OS was the resource hogging and hard-to-run Vista. MS saw the netbook boom as a potential cash cow but knew Vista couldn't run on them, being low-speed and low-powered. They had reinvent Vista and clean it up to what it is now, Win7.

If it wasn't for the now defunct humble netbook, Win7 likely would not exist when it did. Money played a primary role in putting out Win7, guaranteed.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
That is absolute misinformation and a pile of rubbish. A simple trip to wikipedia would have shown you this, but clearly you have an agenda. Win7 is a rewritten Vista to cash in on the netbook boom? LOL. Then explain why Win 7 is 4 to 5 Gigs big, while the first set of netbooks only had 8GB of storage, and anything other than Win7 Starter just did not run well?

Anyway, this is not the place for these kind of nonsensical ramblings. You need to create another thread for that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Sorry about that, but...you're wrong.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eternalemb:
Why argue with an idiot man? They just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sb.:
Not sure if some of these have been mentioned but there's 30 pages to go through so excuse me if I add things already mentioned.

1. Volume for phone and ring tone should be separate.

2. Anti shake and other settings to be saved cos the photos are shiiite without the anti shake on, come to think of it they're not that good either with it on but at least they're viewable.

3. Slide to answer, then press button to answer WTF?? should be just slide up to answer and your talking that extra need to press a button is ridiculous.

4. If the phone is locked and you've talked and finished the phone should re-lock on its own back to its original state.

Cheers
[Windows Phone 7 General] edved:
Push 4 x to make a call...

I hate how I have to push 1. power button 2. slide wallpaper 3. press phone tab 4. finally the keypad! But then the keypad defaults to simply showing the number dialed and if you are asked to enter number 1 for example, you have to press another tab! Brutal. This is supposed to be a phone first and foremost. The process of making a simple phone call should be minimized. The HD2 I had, required if I remember correctly, two buttons to push and voila the phone was available! Why not have a hard button be able to default as the phone.

Ending a phone call is can be equally frustrating! Again, make it a default hard button.

my2cents.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
but at least there's a dedicated hw camera button! :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] edved:
While I'm at it, though I've already mentioned it on this forum, I will add this, going back at least 6 yrs with WM, I've been able to simply dial a person by pressing the alpha/numeric pad for example: mom would be 666 or mike 645 and that was it. WM7 has regressed here! Kinda brutal really.

E.
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
I sure hope so. Since i really wouldn't want that my nice new shiny HTC Trophy is already going to be outdated and already going to regret buying it, wishing i just waited.
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
The first update will be coming out in a while, the keynote has been delivered. And there are no signs, not one of having IM's like Skype or even Windows Messenger, no word on fixing connecting hidden wifi networks, or just plainly play video audio through bluetooth headsets, basic stuff. hoping for these to come along in the first update, my WP7 is getting unshinier everytime i think about these things, and the iPhone 5 is coming out soon
[Windows Phone 7 General] shawchyn:
I just received an notification from my HTC Mozart, it said an update is available now, ask me to connect to Zune to get updated.

I am afraid to do so, coz I am not sure the Cheveron break will be block or not, anybody have an ideas?
[Windows Phone 7 General] hoaisonongame:
I haven't get update yet. But I afraid that Chervon Tool will be deactivated, too.

Need more news from ppl who has updated and using Chervon tool...
[Windows Phone 7 General] shawchyn:
I took my risk to update it.

Everything goes smoooth... and the Chervon unlock is still there! Walah.... :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] hoaisonongame:
Thx, mate :)

I will update when I get back home from work :D :cool:
[Windows Phone 7 General] ov2rey:
i didn't get any new update :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] biernes_atrece:
yup. Chevron unlocked HD7 is still unlocked after update.

Installed xaps from pc as well as free apps from Marketplace.

So far so good.
[Windows Phone 7 General] imagodespira:
I also have no Update (HTC HD7) :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] o0MattE0o:
Any one that has the update is the phone ment to tell you when you have an update Its getting annoying keep plugin my phone into the computer to test if there is an update?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Drbeckman:
Everybody enjoy :

http://www.smartphonefrance.info/ac...mise_a_jour_Windows_Phone_7_pour_le_11_Avril_!

March 7th is THE day.

Then we'll see what happen April 11th.
[Windows Phone 7 General] biernes_atrece:
nice find! Thanks for the heads up.

Let's see what we'll see.

I was just wondering whatever will happen to unlock devices after this.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mcorrie1121:
Translation, por favor.
[Windows Phone 7 General] second_east:
open it with Google Chrome.
[Windows Phone 7 General] biernes_atrece:
I copied & pasted the contents to Google Translate.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mcorrie1121:
I was hoping to just get a summary as I'm not a fan of Google's rough translations, but I guess it will do.
[Windows Phone 7 General] irispen:
Here:

Regarding the sequence of events here is the tentative schedule of updates to Windows 7 Phone:

- 21 February: The first minor update has been late with the worries we know. The first update offers no functionality visible to the user but it is a pre-requisite for installation of future versions. So even if for now Orange has not validated it should be.

- 07 March: The first real update that appirte a number of new features including the famous cut and paste.

- 11 April: The second real upgrade that will also bring some new features like the "local search".
[Windows Phone 7 General] gamefrick:
OMG I can't wait....:eek::eek::eek:

It's like I'll be having a whole new phone with features, I just wish they could give us a breakdown of what they mean by "a number of new features" so we can at least know what we're expecting in the next 4days, C'MON!!!!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] jgcaap:
question. i've got an LG optimus 7 from french orange i didnt had yet any acess to those updates anyone know the reason ? Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 General] nok_fusion:
bad news if this is true :(=> http://bit.ly/h6TpDo
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
I read it and I have no proof but I do not buy it.

So the carriers need to unanimously approve updates in order to push out updates? You would have to be stupid to have an ecosystem like that in place, that one can block many. I do not believe they would have done this and that would be a gross oversight.

So the carriers unanimously approved a meaningless update, yet rejected an update that would have improved user experience? That is what is impossible to believe.

Let us not lose sight of logic because we are angry. It would seem this small update is necessary for the bigger update(s). Please listen to some logic:

The HTC 7 Pro is coming out as the HTC Arrive on March 20th on Sprint.

The HTC Arrive has Copy and Paste.

So I would bet my last clean pair of socks that we will see C&P this month for that very reason. To have a phone on the market with a newer version than everyone else's would be fragmentation and throw that alleged agreement out of balance. Also, if I am the ruler of a competing carrier it is unacceptable to me that Sprint has a more feature-filled WP7 phone than I do.

Update before HTC Arrive arrives. Sit and be patient.
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Your fragmentation has already begun, the Dell Venue Pro in India has the copy and paste update and a user in the US has confirmed he too has the update, the balance has already been disrupted. Yet no one with a device in the US has received an update, so whats the holdup? The update is done, only thing left standing in its way are the carriers, and that is made clear by the fact that other carriers and unbranded devices are receiving updates. The carriers act in their own best interest, and if for some reason blocking an update serves them, they wont think twice about anything before doing it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
According to the chevron guy updates of nodo will start rolling out on monday
[Windows Phone 7 General] jan123456789012:
NOOOOOOOOOO HOW CAN MICROSOFT DO THIS TO US... Im so gona sell my hd7 ...
[Windows Phone 7 General] PieOfJustice:
Under which carrier?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
i dont know, that dude said att focus. I have an omnia unlocked and it had the update pretty early so i guess mine could come as well on monday, ill just plug it into zune and check if it will find an update on monday.
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
Haven't gone through all the posts in this thread, but carriers are limited to blocking up to one update. Therefore, if a carrier has blocked the 'pre-update', then they must allow the NoDo update. You could argue that was Microsoft's plan to ensure everyone gets the NoDo update. Also, if (like me), you still haven't got the 'pre-update', then it's possible that it will simply be rolled into the NoDo update (source), so it doesn't necessarily mean that you won't get NoDo when everyone else does.
[Windows Phone 7 General] truffle1234:
u must e kidding me.... do u even have your own brain or do u even think it over or u just want to cry and run to your mummy....

grow up...
[Windows Phone 7 General] yardie.spike:
Orange UK- Still no update

Anyone here got the update yet? or was todays release date just another rumour.
[Windows Phone 7 General] renegadEEE:
Too early to tell. People in the US aren't even awake yet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dj_Bog:
the rumour was for 8 March.. so for tomorrow.. i think
[Windows Phone 7 General] JuWa:
The another rumor was 7th March for Samsung Focus.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
Not yet

8:52 AM EST, AT&T, Focus no update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Omega Ra:
it's not even 9am yet. That is when most businesses begin their day...we'll see what happens...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Mogreen:
News one Update!!

:mad:Some Mobile Operators have the right to skip one update if they wish.

However, they can't skip the next one, which would be an acumulative update and would include the previous one.

So if your mobile operator decided to block this one, you will be getting the early March one (which will include the Feb one too)

heres a current list of the carriers whos customers havent received the update as of now...

Telstra HTC Mozart

Optus Omnia 7

ATT LG Quantum

ATT Samsung Focus

ATT HTC Surround

T-Mobile HTC HD7

T-Mobile Dell Venue Pro.

Telus Optimus 7

Orange HTC 7 Mozart

Telstra LG Optimus 7Q

Vodafone (Australia) HTC Trophy

Vodafone (Spanish) LG Optimus 7

O2 Branded HD7
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dj_Bog:
this list about the first update (february update) ?? if so, i have Orange HTC Mozart and i got the update in february when it was launched..
[Windows Phone 7 General] Cyruss89:
This prooves that it would have been smarter to have a list of people who have received the update and not a list of people that have not...
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
Still Nothing

1:13 PM EST, ATT, Focus and still nothing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
Still early on the west coast. I wouldn't expect any updates to roll out (if they do at all) until late afternoon at the earliest. I'm still skeptical though with no official word from Microsoft yet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
That guy kept quite and did not said a word anymore on the update today, so i guess he was bluffing/hoping... but lets hope not ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] PieOfJustice:
Nothing over here. Telus reps are still unaware of any updates.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dj_Bog:
i bet it will last one or two more weeks :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
Early?

I would imagine that this is a highly automated process that does not require anyone other than IT professionals to monitor it. There is no reason it could not have started at 12:01AM EST. There is no dependency to people being "at work". IMHO
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
I agree but someone needs to "flip the switch" and I'd assume that would happen later. Either way I'm not holding my breath until Microsoft officially says something.
[Windows Phone 7 General] microhaxo:
I asked @BrandonWatson on twitter if he could confirm if the NoDo update would be out tomorrow and he said "I cannot say". Not sure how to take that, could be out tomorrow or it might not. We all know that it's been done for at least a month already so. Carriers are the holdup.
[Windows Phone 7 General] stackover:
8:18 pm est time .. still no update for t-mobile htc mozart

:(

sad sad sad
[Windows Phone 7 General] Crimson Lotus:
Didn't HTC release the Official ROM(NoDo) for HTC Mozart, Not sure if its for US or EU
[Windows Phone 7 General] rilazi:
It is released the update for Mozart already. You can download http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=984239

Good luck
[Windows Phone 7 General] otech:
I suggest if you copy and paste a list, put a source, and copy the latest version. A lot of those have been updated on the original post over a week ago.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Mogreen:
No! nothing yet brov
[Windows Phone 7 General] Mogreen:
Not on this one Orange HTC 7 Mozart
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
Not comming today... Probably march the 14th so they will keep their word
[Windows Phone 7 General] kingmiddle:
I wait impatiently for the flash bracket v.10!

His would be perfect
[Windows Phone 7 General] renegadEEE:
Great to see that Apple released their update before the announced releasedate. You can say a lot about Apple but on the point of bringing updates they're much more consequent than Google and Microsoft who keep giving vague release dates (january, early March, fall 2011,...) while Apple just says a date and then even brings the update before the date.
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
This is true.

It's also true that Apple doesn't have to worry about different OEM models and testing, which means users have limited form factors.

It's also important to remember that Apple has experience in updating their phones, so a lot of the process has been refined over the last three or so years. If MS delay their updates every time after this, then you'll have a point. Until then, I think it's fair to give MS a bit of leeway for their first mass scale WP7 update (although, they really are pushing it a bit).