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[HD7 General] dale_cooper:
Posted this in another thread...

So I'm a big fan of android, and google in general - however I'm also a massive phone whore so when I saw a good deal on craigslist for an HD7 - I took the leap. I'm coming from a vibrant running froyo. Before that I had a G2, before that evo, and before that Nexus One.

Anyways...

WP7 is very clean, definitely something brand new and refreshing. The screen on the hd7 is amazingly responsive. Thus typing on it is also effortless. The screen isn't the greatest as far as colors and what not but because WP7 is simplistic, it actually works very well and I think it looks quite nice. The way fonts and text is handled is very slick - it just looks nice (however the headers goign off screen takes getting used to).

The GPS on this is VERY fast (then again I'm used to the buggy vibrant GPS but wow is it fast).

The device itself looks awesome - very high class looking. Here's the funny thing though, it actually already has more creaks than the plasticky feeling vibrant. It should be noted even though the vibrant is plastic and feels cheap, it's held up VERY well in my daily use (no creaks). The HD7's kick stand is slightly loose (you can wiggle it) - the battery cover is plastic and moves/creaks at times - WTF didn't they make it metal.

Software things I don't like - the gmail app on android is sooo much better simply becuase of threaded emails. One other issue I have is when I'm upload a picture with flickr manager... I swear it stops uploading if I hit the home button and go do something else (multitasking issue?). Similar thing with IE - if I've done some browsing, click home, go open up calculator or something. Go back to browser - the page I was on is still there but I can't "go back" to my previous page - very annoying. Camera software definitely needs fixed, I'm confident the hardware is good, the software just creates massive noise in low light with flash.. the flash in general is WAY too powerful. White balance is off, etc etc. Other things I hate, not being to easily toggle wifi or bluetooth, etc... I miss power control on android.

Will I keep the HD7, maybe. I prefer android though, there's more you can do with it, IMO things are actually easier to access on android. Not to mention app load time. Android has massive support and momentum right now. However, is WP7 cool? Definitely, I do like the simplicity and I think for alot of people, particularly new smartphone users - it's GREAT.

The nexus S is what I want (vanilla android without bloatware is great) - hopefully I can snag one on craigslist instead of paying full price.
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
you are really dont know what u want to say...

on one hand u are saying its fast smooth simple and on the other hand software is crap... and on one hand u are *****in that the screen is crap, kick stand is lose, battery cover is crapy and cracks... but again on the other hand the hardware is awsome...

i have not used wifi from day one as data, because WP7 u need to have data connection and its so easy to be connected always and receive email as they get to your mail box and get twitter updates realtime as well...

i will not say that WP7 is good or better then any other os but WP7 is the first OS i have used where i can do almost everything with 2 screens...
[HD7 General] dale_cooper:
lol...

The AESTHETICS of the device are extremely nice (it LOOKS high end), but the build quality seems to fail with my device. So what I said makes sense.

I never said the screen is crap, sure it has angle issues, it doesn't have the blacks of super amoled but I said what I did because some people trashed the screen - do you understand now?

As for software yeah its a cool concept but it has its fair share of annoyances, that seems completely normal.

Not sure what you were saying about wifi because I cant understand you but what I said stands, it should be simpler to switch.

As for things being within 2 clicks, I have to argue android I could get to MOST things within the same amount of clicks (particularly when you use your notification bar).
[HD7 General] skyforce_one:
I have a HD7 in replacement of a broken HD2...

I'm very angry with this WP7 I can't use it for work...

it's like an iphone for me...

but worst...

I use it for 1 day an i ordered a new HD2...
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
i am not sure what is failing in on your device, there are ppl in this world and for sure on this forum who will never be satisfied with what ever HTC or who ever comes up with...

WIFI... i have not used it ones on my HD7 as i am on unlimited data plan its useless for me, but yes it cant connect to adhoc networks....

and about high res screen, it will take your battery in a day if u use little and in half a day if u use your device like me...

regarding android.... never used it as a functional OS as its half cooked OS to me with more issues then WM5 or WM6.5... i tried android 2.2 on my TP2 it was crap as i could not do anything.... so parden me if i did not realize that android has every thing 2 clicks away...

i am sorry about your HD7 with failing parts, however you can send it back to HTC if its failing....
[HD7 General] robert5377:
hd7

i think people who have givin this phone a poor rating has not used the phone and is full of s$#% the phone is awsome by far the best windows phone ever it has some minor issues but over all u have to say it is a nice phone
[HD7 General] deeman:
I absolutely love this phone and os before I got it I was worried about some of the negative reviews it was getting but coming from a iPhone 3GS the metro os and live tiles is nice and fresh compared to iPhones static grid the peoples app is also great my only gripe at the moment is the sound quality which is absolutely awful and hopefully htc realese a update for this.the other things people are moaning about like YouTube player no unified email app live hub crashing not enough apps these will be fixed in updates it's a new os give it a chance to mature it will be great remember it's taken iPhone nearly 3 years to finally fix some of it's negatives:)
[HD7 General] nrfitchett4:
It's great you've taken the plunge. Make sure you download the htc audio mgr app from the marketplace under the htc apps, matter of fact, might as well download all of them.

Also, htc has a dedicated youtube app that works much better than the stock one. Only downside is that you can't make it the default youtube app on the phone so links will still open the MS youtube app. Just search for htc youtube and you should find it.
[HD7 General] matutolas:
HTC HD7, yes is fast but doesnt have what we need. i'm used to HD2, i can share by connection with my notebook, just by plugin the usb cable, i was able to share my 3G with my ipad, i was able to sync my exchange contacts, or at least search my exchange contacts, i was able to install other applications (marketplace doesnt have aa search function), very disapointed with HD7
[HD7 General] tarusdg:
here is my quick review of WP7. :)

http://www.examiner.com/smartphones-in-nashville/a-week-with-windows-phone-7-pros-and-cons
[HD7 General] carmeng4evr:
I just want my ringtones :(
[HD7 General] pNoyr3D:
Yes, I really hope this comes soon.

& hopefully battery life will get better, lol.
[HD7 General] ceesheim:
get your ringtones

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=857127

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=856924

just read the 2 threads and you have all the ringtones you want :D
[HD7 General] moromirco:
...and if I thought olny once?:o
[HD7 General] thesecondsfade:
I love the phone. Have had it for a few days and it's pretty awesome.

HD7 Hardware = 10/10

WP7 Software = 9/10 - Add USB Mass Storage and you'll get a 10/10 from me.
[HD7 General] Halabeaster54:
they could have done a much better job then they had i was expecting at least a S-lcd or a amoled not a TFT, and i wish i had a better speaker. The phone looks downright sexy though and is very responsive.
[HD7 General] navarde:
but?....

Remember WM intruduce us the ability share files btw compu and cell which was a great change. Now only beacause there are other phones that have more contol of their customers{market}, they decided to change it.

It does not seem that WM had the intention to offer a great new OS but instead a way to match their competitors.

You do have great remarks! thanks
[HD7 General] GeekLee:
No Complaints

I personally have no complaints..the OS is the best smooth running OS I have experienced in a while... I Mean...I went through all the WM phones from sprint....then switched to the Palm Pre then to the Htc Hero then to the TP2... Upon my upgrade I was torn between the Epic n the EVO... Then I heard about the HD7...my contract been expired from sprint months ago...after about a month watching the review n comparisons to other phone I decided to take the Just n try T mobile and the HD7 ....so far so good ;);)

I Have no problems, I keep my charger with me ALWAYS, I can live with 3G speed, I don't take a lot of pictures, also my music library isn't that huge....lol
[HD7 General] ft55555:
I just bought an HD7 because I gave up on the DVP. I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed in the display and sound quality. The colors on my HD7 seem washed out even when compared to my HTC Surround, which in turn seems washed out compared to a SAMOLED display. Also, the speaker sounds very tinny compared to the Surround, which shouldn't be surprise, but it still sounds pretty bad as far as regular smart phone speakers go.
[HD7 General] xchuiix:
Outstanding...!
[HD7 General] gfreek:
Same here, design wise IMHO it's an improvement over HD2 it's just let down by the screen. HTC seriously need to source AMOLED or Super AMLOED screen fast if not find good alternative for their 2011 line up of high end devices otherwise Samsung will sway a lot of punters to their devices!
[HD7 General] nrfitchett4:
I disagree. You are getting complaints from focus users about color banding due to the amoled display and the 16b color scheme of wp7.

Also, while the focus might have that pretty screen, samsung sucks at software, if you look, htc and lg have much better oem apps than samsung does.
[HD7 General] Strike_Eagle:
HD7 is a good smartphone out there, but not the best.

About HTC HD7:

Positive:

- Good design

- Very sensitive screen

- The sound quality is good

Negative:

- The power button and camera buttons are hard to press.

- Low FPS on 720P Video Record

- Battery is kind of weak... with this phone,

- Back cover is plastic, and i will be mad if i broke it by some reason...

About Windows Phone 7 OS:

Positive:

- Fast

- Stable

- Built-in Social Network Update (Facebook, Windows Live)

- Built-in screen keyboard is good.

- Internet Explorer Mobile is great.

Negative/Upgrade that need:

- No Task manager or option to shut some application down totally (like IE)

- Need to upgrade the Multi-Task

- Fill up the Marketplace

- Fix the problem that the phone need to be turned on before charging.

-Better radio, to help the battery.

:D
[HD7 General] TyTNic:
This was my worst purchase ever! :-(((

I had the bad luck to give 600Euro for buing this garbage HD7.

No outlook synchronization (you have to download hotmail connector, to export contacts from hotmail account and after that to import them to outlook: just a nightmare!),

No copy/paste,

The marketplace is valid only in chosen countries; even if you register for instance in UK marketpalce, but you are from another country outside marketplace "chosen ones", then you can download only free apps because your credit card for example is not issued in UK where you have registered at firstplace.

The problem for me is that I'm a windows mobile fun since Qtek2020i, some 6 years ago.

I have had at least other 5 windows mobile phones waiting and hoping that something good was going to happen, but.....

Continuing: no multitasking, no file manager, no applications outside microsoft marketplace, no applications inside marketpalce: very very few.

The camera is awfull; the flash light instead is very nice. But I wouldn't give 600Euro for a flash light.

Thank you very much Microsoft, you returned us back to neolithic age some 7 years ago when at the same time Google with android and apple do their best.

The sadest thing is the amount of money given already for nothing.

But the sadest ever is that I try to sell it even at 350Euro and nobody even calls jsut to say hello and ask.......
[HD7 General] laynee04:
Very basic functions are poor

I think the HD7 has potential to be a great phone. It is loads faster, better than my TouchPro2 which I wanted to promptly burn after I got this phone.

But I wish that they can fix a couple things:

1. WTF is up with the charging port being so close to the output cable. When I stick in my aux cable and charge my phone at the same time in the car, it fits but clearly bends my battery usb.

2. The sensitive call buttons. Why is the end call button/hold/etc in the middle of the screen? Why is it so sensitive? There's been a couple times when I hold the phone against my ear and I accidentally "end call".

3. Does not receive jpegs as attachment from iPhones/iPods.

4. Does not cut/paste

5. Marketplace is shoddy but it's forgivable.

6. How come I can't edit the original message when I am forwarding an email?

7. No gchat? IM client?

8. No outlook sync??

It's a pretty phone and it's really fast and I love the calendar view but I feel like some of the above should have been considered before releasing the phone.
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
how can u touch end call button when the proximity sensor shuts down the screen when u hold the phone to your ear?????
[HD7 General] TyTNic:
Unfortunately, and this is another annoying thing on this device, you have to take it off from your ear, to push the on button and touch the screen on the top for seeing the call menu......
[HD7 General] MartyLK:
Not all is lost. I, too, purchased the HD7. I could have returned it for a refund, but I decided it would make an excellent upgrade to my HD2 for using Android. The hardware is nearly identical but it has softkeys, which I adore. If you can hang on a while longer, the talented and amazing devs here at XDA will likely have Android flashable on the HD7...and since most of the other branded WP7 devices were constrained by MS on the hardware they could use, those will be flashable as well...it will more than make up for the displeasing nature of WP7.

That is, of course, unless MS gets off their butts....not likely....and starts adding the requisite features we all want and need. If that happens, I'll continue on with WP7.
[HD7 General] :
Not bad, could have had a bit more though put into the OS before it's launch,

I like the wife's HTC Dezire Z, she's having fun with Android while I'm staring at my HD7 wondering if it would make a good book end!

Can anyone get rid of the caller list, I keep accidently dialling people?
[HD7 General] geoken:
Out of curiosity, what in specific do you prefer about capacitive buttons?

This is my first phone with capacitive buttons and they've been nothing but a nuisance. They force you to contort your hands and always be conscious of how you're holding the phone.

I honestly can't think of one redeeming factor about them.
[HD7 General] rscaramelo:
Pros:

- Sexy Phone

- Smooth interface

- Simple

- Interesting Market

Cons:

- documented oversights like the cut and paste, ringtones, etc.

- No Wi-Fi Calling

- Tethering?

- Not a fan of the power and camera buttons
[HD7 General] evolutionqy7:
Just in general HD7

Pros:

Lovely design

Cons:

Power button at the top is quite annoying to press (but meh i can live with it)

Loud Speaker defo wasnt made for listening to music (HTC Sound Enhancer update improved the quality but still not as nice as it could be) but delivers great quality for games and all other functions and headphone output quality is superb. Idk maybe its a software issue.

WP7

Pros:

Cant empathize enough how much i like the UI

SPEED!

Far better quality games and apps than Android. Even nicer than iOS (i got all apps i need anyway)

Compatible with my college enterprise wifi network (was a big minus in android)

Its different! No one can put this beside google or iOS and say it was copied

Zune! I love ZUNE!

IE Mobile rocks! So fast and smooth

Cons:

No tethering without the registry hack

No flash is a downside but i can live with it.

Full Zune services and bing services arent available in Ireland making Bing pretty much useless cause it cant find addresses and local search doesnt exist (though FourSquare takes care of that) :S

No real available GPS software available (guess that will come with next update for WP7). Hope to see bing nav
[HD7 General] manny84:
SPOT ON.

I said to myself that the EVO would be my final HTC device, because of terrible build quality. But I foolishly gave into the HD7, thinking it would be different. But nope. Same crap.

It's a pretty looking device, but the end product is crap.
[HD7 General] evolutionqy7:
Agree the build quality could be better. I find it to be worse than the HD2. Though maybe thats because the HD2 was a uni body phone where this is more like the frame and plastics added around it.

Agree the rocker and power buttons arent great. But that seem to have vanished when i put a rubber cover on it. Buttons stick out nicer now and its effortless to press
[HD7 General] kbeatzzz:
hd7 freshness

Being an advid cell phone junkie I recently aquired the hd7 and I must say... aint no looking back now... I was highly impressed and it felt on the level if not higher level of that of the iphone.... so android... i see where all of this is goin but ios and wp7 are going to lead the future with its restrictions.. i understand it now...and it all makes since... one type of consistancy and you build upon that and evolve it. And that what wp7 is doing and will be... unstoppable.
[HD7 General] GraffitiG:
HD7 itself is a 9/10

I say 9 because of that weak little kick stand.

The OS is a negative number it has so many bugs and flaws the sidekick 3 has more capabilities than the HD7 when it comes to the OS Windows Mobile is utterly terrible in my opinion lol.
[HD7 General] geoken:
I'm waiting till MWC. if something on AWS with physical buttons and decent seeming build quality is announced I'll hold on to the HD7 until I can get that. If not I'm going to pick up an Optimus 7 and I'll switch providers.
[HD7 General] circleofomega:
There is just one thing that worreis me, the volume key is a bit loose. it kinnda shivers when the phone vibrates...not as strong as the home key...
[HD7 General] shinaku:
Few cons on the actual hardware (coming from an iPhone background)

- The volume control on the left physically rattles. Feels cheap.

- The lock button on the top requires a lot of effort to push, should stick out more

- The speakers around the LCD catch dust very easily

- The back case looks filmsy, I'm worried the small clips will snap off

- You can see the SIM card through gaps in the case? Looks cheap

- What is with the kickstand? It isn't as badly designed as I thought it'd be, but that's just asking to snap off.

And the OS:

- C'mon, No TCP clients? Seriously?

- OS locks up, glitches, apps sometimes refuse to launch

- IE's rendering engine is pathetic compared to the WebKit powered ones on Android and iOS. Downright fails ACID3, terrible Sun Spider results.

- Even on official Microsoft apps, lots of UI guidelines aren't followed - text cut off, back button not working right...

- Windows button mean "navigate to the splashscreen", not "close the app, then show", so you end up having to navigate back through the splashscreen, then back through apps, then back again...

Although, it's something new and fresh. I'm liking it, assuming Microsoft keep pushing out new features and updates, and the homebrew community continues to grow.
[HD7 General] MartyLK:
I'm surprised! I was considering getting an LG Quantum...has a landscape slideout keyboard...when I transfer over to AT&T in the next month. I am wanting a landscape slider as a change of pace from onscreen KBs. I went to the AT&T store and gave one a try and found I typed worse with the hardware keyboard than on my HD7s onscreen keyboard. And some review sites call the LG Quantum's keyboard to be one of the best.

I think a lot had to do with the solid surface of the keys. I had long'ish thumbnails right then...just trimmed 'em, actually...lol...and they were preventing me from effectively pressing the keys. Unlike the Palm Pre, just down board a little ways, which has rubberized keys on its slider, the Quantum has hard surface keys. I was able to use the rubberized keys of the Pre much better because they allowed my thumbnails to dig into them rather than slide off of them.

Looks like I will be sticking with my HD7. Can't beat it for excellence. I don't need another phone if a slideout keyboard isn't an option...not looking to buy the Pre. Especially since new hotrod'ish HP hardware has been announced.

Feel good you have have an HD7. The best there is.
[HD7 General] sunycheeba416:
It seems to me that the HD2 is better than the HD7. Here are my gripes in hopes to document and maybe get attention from corporate and consumer decision-makers (some are WP7 issues):

1) no front camera

2) no Wifi Tethering support

3) no Skype support

4) no microSD slot support

5) no 4G

6) Marketplace search suxxxx!

Wifi tethering is the extremely important to most, but I know this topic has been beaten to death. I hoping it is a software and not a hardware thing (I do not buy that it is a carrier thing at all).

Are there any WP7 phones that can fulfill most of these issues?
[HD7 General] TommyGun:
In 2007 a nice phone was released by Nokia - N95. I bought it and now I have "upgraded" to HD7. Here are my 2 cents:

1) HD7 has no Satnav solutionon, no Skype..

2) There are bluetooth issues (HD7 does not connect to my Nokia and I am unable to transfer files).

3) Build quality is unsatisfactory, there are gaps and the frame creaks;

4) Camera issues are severe - focusing problems get only worse as lighting changes Nokia's 5 year old camera blows HD7 to smithereens, both video and stills cameras are better on N95. What use is there of a 720p camera if it never focuses properly? And how is it possible that a 4 year old phone is better at this?

5) What's the deal with no navigation bar in landscape mode for IE?

6) Hidden SSiD unavailability is unacceptable.

7) Configuration options for data connections are much too rudimentary on the whole.

8) I personally miss the option to use the Windows phone as a USB drive; I was actually quite disappointed that currently it is easier to transfer files to a jailbroken iPhone than it is to HD7.

9) Win7 is microsoft. Skydrive is microsoft. How comes that such a simple feature as saving edited documents on Skydrive is not implemented whilst I am able to completely erase or GPS-locate the device via the same Windows Live?

The surprising thing is - I still like the phone despite all these (rather dramatic, I think) setbacks. Come on, Microsoft! Update your software! And come on HTC, bad job with camera driver!
[HD7 General] aquanaut88:
Not an excuse for HTC, but you may have gotten one of the first batch units -- mine was made 12/2010 (Hardware Rev number: 0002) and exhibits nothing but perfection from a build quality point-of-view.

I am not impressed with the camera, real hit or miss - my TyTN2 took better photos. It's gotta be the software...

It's taken a couple of weeks to figure out various navigation tricks (sometimes rather frustrating before figuring it out). OneNote syncs smoothly between my pc, skydrive, and the hd7. Email, contacts & appointments sync perfectly with our exchange server. Where are tasks? Zune (with zune pass) just totally rocks! Not much of a gamer, so can't comment on xbox stuff. Haven't missed copy & paste. After setting it up, photos transfer with each zune sync, so getting used to non-removable secure storage.

Not a bad start for a v1.0 operating system... next 6-months will expect great things (or else...).

Cheers