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[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
Cool ok then, question for u u think u could make it work for 2.1 too? Probaly no since group is around the corner hopefully. Once u have it flashable I'll have to goto 2.2
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
No info about mobile ap? I'm not being lazy.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I use SetCPU w/ my ROM/Kernel and it works great. I've never tried Juice Defender.

I got a 3000mah battery on eBay for $6 shipped, and at this point it's working great for me.

Charging via USB/cigarette lighter is far slower than a wall charger. I don't know if one is better than the other in terms of life, but I kind of relate it to car batteries...a good and steady trickle charge is better than trying to charge your battery super fast all the time, but who knows. One thing I did read about batteries mostly applies to breaking them in...something along the lines of that fast charging them for their first use (wall charger in this case) will help breakup the crystals inside the battery itself, making it more efficient. After that, charging style doesn't matter to the battery because supposedly modern batteries don't have memory anymore...but then again, everything is just hearsay on the internet.

I think it should go w/o saying that each time a Kernal is flashed, it's mandatory to wipe the battery stats and do this. I'm still curious as to if it's necessary to have the phone on or off during the recharging cycle, but to be safe and let the battery learn itself while being as uniterrupted as possible, I'm doing my charging cycle right now w/ the phone off. I'm not trying to get us off topic here, but this is a post I made on one of the few extended battery threads out there:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9568153&postcount=72
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I agree. I can't stand when people come in at the end of the game and start asking questions that have already been answered. His laziness to not even spell out words completely on post 2391 speaks volumes. You're not being a douchebag, just saying how it is...don't be ashamed to call people out on it, otherwise they'll never change.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Same here...tryin not to let it piss me off. I've been here for 3 months and for the first 30 days I never said ****. I'm coming from a G1 which I modded the piss out of. I know people have to start somewhere but..READ first. For a Week! Not five minutes.

I'm psyched for the new release..... Just hangin by my PC...lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
LMAO...I said the same things to people on the Moment forums, even when we were 300 pages into Noobnl's ROM's. To this day there are ROMs and Kernels I know nothing about because I'm admittedly too lazy to read the entire thread, but at least I'm not asking already answered questions on them at page 267 either, just for that reason. Just as I said on Noobnl's threads back then...these threads would probably be cut in half if we weren't regurgitating the same information over and over again for those who won't take the time to read and understand beforehand....instead they all wanna come in at the end and reap all the benefits w/o any of the efforts to help it get to this point.

The only reason why I'm even on this thread in general is because you linked to it for him needing beta testers for TV-Out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
There's already a working version for 2.1 ...check the dev section for "MobileAP for epic" or something like that :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
I'm gonna take the time now to share some really interesting information with you :)...

2.8 Has been released!

VIPERrom [TRiNiTY] DK17 2.8

Don't forget to read the changelog for information pertaining to this release.
[Epic 4G Android Development] johnyardavid:
already downloading!
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
Stop ****ing bashing me u dicks!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] bampf846:
Woohoo! Thanks! Can't wait to get it flashed and check it out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] johnyardavid:
Hey BT, what are the specs on your new comp? Just out of curiosity.
[Epic 4G Android Development] -logik-:
_________________________________________________________________

Just to clarify and for all to understand the nature of lithium batteries, this should help.

Here is an excerpt and link about lithium batteries:

How to prolong lithium-based batteries

A lithium-ion battery provides 300-500 discharge/charge cycles. The battery prefers a partial rather than a full discharge. Frequent full discharges should be avoided when possible. Instead, charge the battery more often or use a larger battery. There is no concern of memory when applying unscheduled charges.

Although lithium-ion is memory-free in terms of performance deterioration, batteries with fuel gauges exhibit what engineers refer to as "digital memory". Here is the reason: Short discharges with subsequent recharges do not provide the periodic calibration needed to synchronize the fuel gauge with the battery's state-of-charge. A deliberate full discharge and recharge every 30 charges corrects this problem. Letting the battery run down to the cut-off point in the equipment will do this. If ignored, the fuel gauge will become increasingly less accurate. (Read more in 'Choosing the right battery for portable computing', Part Two.)

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Nickel Cadmium batteries DO suffer from memory issues. Lithium will degrade much faster if fully discharged on a regular basis. Lithium batteries also should be kept charged if being stored. Not a problem with our phones, but can be when used in cameras or other devices not used often.

Cheers!

Jeff
[Epic 4G Android Development] bighuta:
No one's bashing you. We're just pointing out your lack of research and appreciation. BThomas as well as all the devs work very hard at developing some awesome roms for the Epic. Telling them to do something else to suit your needs when they already have plenty on their hands as well as R/L, is an insult, IMHO.

Anyways, back on topic. Downloading 2.8 and will post results!

Thanks again for all your hard work BThomas!
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
do we still use the baked in lag fix for 2.8? and is there a flashable zip for the tw lock screen?
[Epic 4G Android Development] bilestoad:
Juicedefender = gone and i'll just set some profiles up with setcpu.

btw i was unable to reproduce the camera bug although i had it happen, i think!, with my stock, out-of-the-box Epic. I AM sure that I've had that bug before, just not entirly sure --WTF! 19 mins to DL 2.8!?!- when I experienced it. :D

Hey thanks for the fast response. Why don't android cell phone manufactures just release what they have to you developers and admit that they, like so many others, send to market products that aren't finished? what's the big deal, they've desensitized us to it anyway. I want that kernel in your hands!
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
Will make a flash and post in a couple

Sent from my VIPERrom [TRiNiTY] DK17 2.8
[Epic 4G Android Development] toypaj:
hey do we still have to flash the gps fix or is it included in 2.8
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
Here's the stock epic lockscreen

http://www.multiupload.com/EEZQUOHUW1

flash through clockwork
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
it's included ...also i included LBSTestmode (Read the changelog for instructions on how to use this) to help with making the GPS bug dissappear ...hopefully lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
Alright guy's, let's not pollute BThomas22x's thread with a bunch of back-n-forth. If you wanna argue, please, take it to general, or PM eachother. I understand where BOTH parties are coming from, I'm not innocent of asking questions that have been answered beforehand in a thread, not reading thru, and I GUARENTEE, neither is everyone arguing here. But we learn from our mistakes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] crock89:
yea what he said.... problem solved ******
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
Thanks so much for the update, and link!! I did already know that these batts werent supposed to have memories, but otherwise has also been proven. I'll see if I can provide a linlk... But thanks for the input, I just learned something, lol....
[Epic 4G Android Development] sinman02:
Do we use the same baked in lag fix as 2.6?
[Epic 4G Android Development] J3ff:
is anyone else having problems with the VOLUME UP, #1, Q, A FN SHFT keys randomly not working??
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
Hey big guy (BTHomas22x),

Watcha been up to lately? Workin' much, lol... You and Rodderik... Pretty awesume quality ROMS been coming out your front door buddy,,, LMAO.. SUPERB work, 2.6, 2.7, and 2.8!!!!! Well, ALL ofem' been pretty awesume!!

I gotta question pertaining to your post: Um, how about your lagfix.apk?? Should/would it be better to use the .apk, rather than the baked in????
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
Nope, not here... Are you using 2.7?
[Epic 4G Android Development] J3ff:
no, I was using 2.2 for a while and then those keys stopped working.

Then the day I was ready to bring it back to sprint they starting working again, so I flashed 2.6.

Now today, they stopped working again.

I'm going to flash 2.8. and see what happens. I can't tell if it's my phone or the rom :-/
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
Ahhh BT, I see you made the install NOOB mistakless, lol... Clearing, system, data, cache at initial install!!! VERY nice!! GREAT WORK! It's a masterpiece!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] J3ff:
aww, when i go to applications in 2.8 the wallpaper still fades to black! Where's the feature like in 2.2 where it just fades to the wallpaper!~
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
To be honest with you, i use the apk because it's more realistic and not meant for tricking quadrant. Of course, quadrant still has it's issues, but it's more realistic ...plus i see a performance boost with the apk. Just my opinion i guess, and thanks! where have you been? lol... i made you part of team viper too regardless of what you said and you dissappeard lmao ...i don't stink do i? *smells armpits* ...not that i'm aware of lol :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
I think thats only with using the GTG TouchWiz... here's a link to a GTGTouchWiz that works, and it's flawless!! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=820749
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
Well I tried 2.8 and had to restore back. For one thing it wiped all my data, didn't figure it would do that flashing over 2.6. But anyway, I did 2'8, stock icons, lag fix, and battery icon. Then when I went to sign into this forum, browser kept fcing on me, maybe I wasn't supposed to flash one of those?
[Epic 4G Android Development] makipsee:
i dont know what changed but when i was on 2.6 (and back) with launcher pro i was able 2 swype from the bottom up and it would bring up the app drawer ( even with out the app drawer button there) but now it doesnt work. anyone have any idea y?
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
LMAO, Yeah, I use the APK too. For some reason, I think it works a little better, but it might just be because the fact that I INSdidnt go anywhereTALL it, know what I mean?? lol... I dissappeard?? Where did I go??? Where am I????? LMAO.. Naaaa, I didnt go anywhere, my wife starts breathing down my neck about spending too much time on the computer. I tell her," well BThomas22x is gonna be releasing a ROM tonight, and I gotta wait for it, lol, And I just gotta help a few people that are having problems installing".... She doesnt let me stay on the pc ALL night, but I try, lol...

Naaa, I dont think you smell, lol... Or do you?? Or perhaps thats me??? Dunno, dont care, lol... Of course I'll be part of "Team Viper"!!

You should check out the GTGTouchWiz in the link that I posted a gfew posts back! It works flawlessly!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] bighuta:
Hey BT, I keep trying to use the Viperspeed lagfix apk but cant seem to get enough space in /data. How much space do I need exactly? I keep searching for it in this thread but cant find it...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rodderik:
BT, upload the gps "fix" I sent you...I ported the apps settings and pointed it to google's supl server..I get 3 meters in doors after 30 seconds

Blasted through the air waves via VIPERrom 2.7
[Epic 4G Android Development] -logik-:
My pleasure! Hopefully it clears up understanding of how those little rascals function. As an engineer in electronics and working for a certain telecommuncations company... ahem... I like to see correct info disseminated! LOL!!

Cheers!

Jeff
[Epic 4G Android Development] Rodderik:
It sounds like u were using the old touchwiz with 3 screens...if that is what you want then download home switcher from the market and switch to it

Blasted through the air waves via VIPERrom 2.7
[Epic 4G Android Development] makipsee:
no its LP bc i delete the touchwiz homescreen
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
I dunno, I just signed in with no probs. But I ALWAYS wipe before ANY ROM install!!! I cant stress this enough guy's!! No matter who says what, ALWAYS DO A CWM BACK-UP, AND ALWAYS WIPE DATA 3 TIMES, CACHE 3 TIMES, DALVIK ATLEAST ONCE!!!! NO MATTER WHAT!!!

See, now I'm here using my Epic... Works great BT!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] spf2722:
Flashed the 2.8, did all wipes and followed directions on the Lbstestmode, still no GPS fix. I thought that the GPSfix.zip was baked in, do we need to apply it after we flash. And I couldnt find if this was posted earlier but is there a way to remove startup and shutdown sounds? The ROM is fantastic, but the sounds are too much for me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
Are you talking about the Vanilla launcher that comes stock?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
I totally agree with the startup shutdown sounds (although I know how to manually disable).

BT...were you going to upload a TV OUT .zip or apk only? Or do I HAVE to re-rom.

....oh an to the guy that got upset earlier...I wasn't talking about you man, I was only commenting on what Mjames had said about people not reading. Truthfully I never even saw what you had asked. Sorry if I offended you.
[Epic 4G Android Development] myphoneisepic:
you need 400 mb free and 40% batt. if you follow the instructions in the op and install it BEFORE anything else you'll always have enough space
[Epic 4G Android Development] humdrum2009:
Can you send me that link

Can you send me that link or is it on the front post
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
Yeah... I was just eating dinner... give me about 10 mins and ill upload the .zip ...just follow the instructions in the changelog :)

Sent from my VIPERrom [TRiNiTY] DK17 2.8
[Epic 4G Android Development] ragnarokx:
Is MobileAP working in this version?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Ya.....and I'll send you a cable if it works..as well as a donation cousin

:-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] spf2722:
Any help on the manual disable for startup/shutdown sounds.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tildog:
inbound noob question

hay bt again another amzaing refresh of your rom it just keeps getting better and better one quick question terminal emulater is fc on me and when i get one from the market it will not allow to install is thsi somthing reflashing might fix or has anyone else experiance this issue other then that is it running amazing ty agine for all your hard work
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
go to "system/media/audio/ui/" and rename the "shutdown.ogg" to something else, then "system/etc" and change "poweron" to something else and they'll be disabled.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
try this GPS "fix" as well

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7514207/GPSFix5test.zip

courtesy of rodderik
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
Hmm... try uninstalling it and reinstalling it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] BThomas22x:
Here you go Zen ...You'll need to download "Terminal Emulator" and "Any Cut" from the market. Follow the directions in the changelog on the op to get it setup. Post with results. I'm gonna be honest with you, i don't believe it's going to work because of the settings, but i'm literally working on that right now, so hopefully we'll get it soon. :)

TVout Test Download

Just flash through Clockwork and give it a try.
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
I haven't done any gps fix and I get lock on every rom, are you guys using gps status? Maybe try that if you can't lock and turn gps off and back on
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Well...I have terminal of course...but Anycut...I did not. I had just used LauncherPro shortcut creation to get to the TV OUT option. I'll try Anycut though.

Testing now.
[Epic 4G Android Development] CO pitbull:
I was getting FC's on the Term Em and LBsTest. Also acting a little weird. Charging my Epic and going to try a reflash.
[Epic 4G Android Development] f4systems:
If you download SGS Tools from the market you can change the bootup and shutdown sounds.
[Epic 4G Android Development] blastboi:
i was wondering the same thing... and if i do a back up can i cwm restore it on 2.8 if coming from 2.5?
[Epic 4G Android Development] myphoneisepic:
love the pull down from the task bar. beautiful work
[Epic 4G Android Development] Paiyne:
Lagfix.apk? Did I miss something somewhere? I've been using the Baked In .zip through CWM. Is the .apk in the thread somewhere? I haven't really noticed any change with the .zip and if you are seeing a performance boost with the .apk, I'd love to give it a go.
[Epic 4G Android Development] napoleon321:
Theres already a working mobile ap for 2.1 stock but the one for this rom won't be available until bt releases the update.zip...read the previous posts man

sent from my fallen epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] byersbw:
Quick ? If Im running stock di18 and do a backup via clockwork, then I update to the dk17 modem and update to 2.8, can I just restore the clockwork backup to go back to di18 if I need to? Will I have to re-Odin the modem? Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
No need to get all ***** hurt about it bro...lighten up, laugh a little! Next time you have a question and you're too lazy to read through the thread, try this instead - http://xdaforums.com/search.php
[Epic 4G Android Development] kenny782:
Hey, I just upgrading from 2.7 to 2.8. I did the triple wipe before I flashed 2.8

It's working fine so far except for the browser. Everytime I click on a text box (tried 3 sites) the browser crashes "Process has stopped unexpectedly"

Thanks again for all your work :)

Thanks,

Kenny
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
It wont install cuz Terminal emulator comes pre-installed on this version 2.8...
[Epic 4G Android Development] brewdude:
I haven't had too much of a problem with GPS, but since flashing this rom I do for sure. I've applied the gps fix zip. Is there not a GPS icon for the task bar with this rom? If there is, mine isn't displaying one.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
Yes, you will... the DI18 rom is supposed to re-flash the modem, but for some reason it doesnt... I've tried myself before... But you can restore your settings back...
[Epic 4G Android Development] byersbw:
Thanks for the answer! I'm still getting up to speed on Android but am loving it! GO TEAM VIPER! :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
That sounds like exactly what happened to me
[Epic 4G Android Development] bighuta:
thank you good sir.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
OK...So I tried it in multiple order of operations. Start in term then plug in the wires then start app, plug in wires then start app (fc) then start in term then start app again. Tried 3 different wires (yellow, red, white).

No good. I will say this though. The phone vibrated when I plugged in the cables and the bluetooth dialer came on the first time I did it. I've never even seen the bluetooth dialer before.

Can I offer any more assistance than monkey work? I don't program but I know my way around via root explorer and Android Commander so I can trade files in and out pretty easily.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
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[Epic 4G Android Development] brewdude:
I'm glad that you have given it your blessing....I can't say the same. GPS is broken for me. I've flashed several versions of BT's roms with no GPS issues before.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bilestoad:
+1 exactly - I thought to myself, self, maybe there just itsn't an icon for it...? but self has a high bullsh*t meter and didn't buy it.... never had a problem before, lol! no icon, no matter what - i even put a gps widget on there and switched it on and then checked the settings, etc. nothing... wiped 3 times again, wiped dalvik for kicks, wiped em all again, reinstalled ROM from zip, reboot, same result.

Now everything is crashing down! lol I'll be back...
[Epic 4G Android Development] bilestoad:
Did you install it OVER 2.6? Just curious.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
Yes, but I am having some issue's with the browser, and some others are having the same-ole probs with their GPS...
[Epic 4G Android Development] brewdude:
+1 My exact steps
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
There is only an icon for "Google Maps". Is this what you keep losing?
[Epic 4G Android Development] bilestoad:
Are you sure you aren't trolling ;-)

No, what we're saying IS that that no gps icon appears on the task bar or whatever that bar on the top of the screen is called. There are other icons on that bar, for example, when you turn on wifi, a wifi icon appears. And for all other ROMs I've used, when I turned on GPS, either from settings or from the drop down bar, an icon has appeared on that bar to indicate that GPS was on. Here, no matter what, it does not appear. Even when I turn on google maps.

Why, did YOU lose google maps in your installation?
[Epic 4G Android Development] karate134:
I'm sure you guys will like this, but the bootup "sound" spooked me. 12:30am, all is quite and then that. lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] bilestoad:
I just tried to install it OVER 2.6. what I noticed this time that I don't recall from last time is that "voicemail not set up" text box that pops up.....As I say, (staring off into the distance with narrowing eyes), I don't recall seeing that message on the 2.8 install even with all those wipes! But, then again, I can't recall what I had for brea....where am I again?

I'm going back to my nandroid 2.6 backup until one of you geniuses figures out the deal!

And a sincere thank you to BThomas22x, and you know I'm sincere about it, 'cause I'm going to use instead of this, a ROM by.....BThomas22x!;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] bilestoad:
Oh Hey BThomas22x, as I wrote above, thanks a lot for your work, I like 2.6 a lot. But I'm wondering if maybe we can have a 'tester's ROM' option of no- or lower-volume boot up and shutdown sounds. (to everyone ready to type, yes I KNOW we can change that manually, I do that, but when you install the ROM you lose the changes). I mean, I love that you boosted the volume for 2.8, but it gets to be a lot to hear when I'm constantly rebooting after installing zips, etc...
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
First off, LOSE your SARCASM! I'm trying to help you, you ass!

also, I'm not a , what YOU would call,"Troller". I am part of Team Viper, here trying to get issue's resolved for YOU guy's. And the bar is called a "notification" bar...
[Epic 4G Android Development] robl45:
So do we have to completely wipe?
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
Not sure yet... I'm looking into it as we speak...
[Epic 4G Android Development] bilestoad:
Oh, well, in THAT case....

Thanks for your efforts and nice work!

Yes, I've done a nandroid restore and can verify lost GPS followed me down back to 2.6...still fiddling with it... I'll probably boot up the windows box and reflash dk17 and modem and then get a gps lock and then 2.6...

Update: applied the gps fix from the first page of thread and got a lock in my restored 2.6. calling it a night! Thanks again for your efforts, Sniperkill BThomas22x and Team Viper.