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[Droid X General] SirBrass:
Guy, think about this for a second.

What CAN'T we do to this phone that we're already doing, besides maybe an optimized kernel? WITH efuse in place, the devs have managed to implement overclocking, voltage mods, easy rooting, system ROMing, etc. Its my understanding that with the D1, OCing and voltage mods were done by customizing the kernel. Well, here we are with the DX and doing it easily with the bootloader still locked down.

Now, I'd like to see that bootloader unlocked for the sake of doing it, but still...um, we've already gotten around much of what we were prevented from doing in the first place and all under efuse's nose.
[Droid X General] Ubermicro13:
Haha I'm on the same boat as you, It is indeed addicting.
[Droid X General] davisbs999:
The whole point of motorola locking down the bootloader was to prevent people from gaining the type of access we want. I know that the BL situation is annoying, but I was also aware of it when I bought the device. Personally, root and tethering are all that I want; otherwise, I would have bought a DI or Fascinate.

Not trying to hate, but i have seen multiple failed "outraged email drives" directed at motorola over the months
[Droid X General] Aggie12:
That's fine. I'm not looking for the approval of your nor anyone else. It was merely a chance for me to vent my frustration towards the man. And I know we have come far but it's more of the principle that they still have so much say with the device even though we own it.
[Droid X General] Dany0:
Why don't just send them your custom ROMs so they can approve they are within their "QA"? huh? ;)
[Droid X General] TweakMyDevice:
I agree with that. Elect a team to build the ULTIMATE ROM and send to Moto. Show them what the devs can accomplish along with our user support.

We have to provide resistance and keep the pressure on them to stop this kind of lockdown for the future of modding/hacking devices.
[Droid X General] Dany0:
Why ultimate, first we have to see what kind of roms they accept and which not. Then everyone will send it's own ROM.

And then we will sue them.

And then chuck norris... oh nothing :)
[Droid X General] bkjolly:
I actually put it in my email not to give me that bull because everyone with half a brain knew it was a lie and that everyone that read it was laughing at Moto for thinking people were that stupid.

Sent from my DROIDX
[Droid X General] bkjolly:
The reason this is important is Moto's security gets tighter with every update. If we let them get away with it without at least trying to do something about it then they will continue to make security tighter and harder to work around. When other Manufacturers see that Moto got away with it they'll follow and eventually all phones will be locked down to the point that everyone is running the same Vanilla OS. The bootloader have a work around now but if we don't speak up it may not one day. They had no legitimate reason to lock the bootloader down it was just a show of force. Efuse is step one. So if you don't want Android ruined by the Manufacturers and Carriers speak up now. The Droid X is okay with a locked bootloader but they still put a leash on it and they're going to keep tightening it as long as we let them. Others will follow just watch HTC has already stared.

Sent from my DROIDX
[Droid X General] bkjolly:
Anyone want to start a web page for an online petition for Manufacturers not to lock down their phones? I would do it but I don't have the know how. But if we email this guy and start a web petition we have more of a voice. Call in to RadioAndroid and let the public know it's out there. This isn't just Moto we're fighting. We can stop other Manufacturs before they start or at least try.

Sent from my DROIDX
[Droid X General] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
There have already been two online petitions done.
[Droid X General] manaox2:
With the money and time this saves from people who would mess up tweaking and not be able to fix it themselves, I am leaning towards siding with motorola. As long as an SBF is out, its tough to brick these things permanently. So get started learning code injection and get around it by being crafty. Security is nothing new and motorola has good reason to try to prevent one click tweakers from messing stuff up they have to fix. They aren't kidding when they say this is an industry standard, so time to get used to it and prepare new methods for the future.

sent via Droid X
[Droid X General] erishasnobattery:
I haven't posted over here for some time, because frankly the Droid X community annoys me to no end. That's not to say there aren't some great people over here, because there are, but seriously...

75% of the threads for the Droid X are "OMG, I effing hate Motorola...they locked my phone and now I can't do anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!@##$!@#$!@#$!"

Really guys? You think the 15% of us that make up the "rooting/modding/development" community mean anything to them? No. All we do is brick our phones and return them to VZW and cost them money.

You knew coming into this phone that it was locked and that there was a very real possibility it always would be. If that scared you, you should have gotten an Inc or Samsung. I thought long and hard on this before I bought mine. I'm really happy with the decision I made.

I can 1) Root it. 2) Theme it. 3) Run a custom ROM. 4) Under/Overclock. 5) Under/Overvolt. 6) Backup/Restore. Honestly, what else is there?

I get it, really, it's the principle of the locked bootloader, but if you spent half the time developing for it that you do whining about it, you wouldn't even notice it.

In closing, this community really makes me miss my Eris. :(

/Rant
[Droid X General] Dubin04:
Agreed. I mean well said and not really much you can argue with there.
[Droid X General] TheEnzyteGuy:
Agreed
[Droid X General] SirBrass:
Yup, and it annoys me too. I see it in other areas of discourse too and have the same reaction. But the redeeming feature of this community are those who are doing stuff. They aren't whining, but busy working around this stuff. And those of us who support them love it. If we'd all had this "woe is us, moto is t3h suck!" Attitude then NONE of what's been accomplished would've been possible. So keep on truckin' ye devs, ye coders and chefs :-) .
[Droid X General] erishasnobattery:
I don't want to sound like a complete ass here, but I know that's how it will come off. The few people who did make huge leaps on the X gracefully stepped out. I sincerely appreciate what they did for us and respect the fact that they left when they did. You just have to know when to cut your losses, and truthfully they hung in longer than I would have.

I think what we have left is 3 or 4 guys working hard to "de-blur" the X. That's great and wonderful and I appreciate it, but replacing blur apps with stock Android doesn't really interest me. Most of the vanilla apps suck to be honest. What bothers me about this though, and I'm not just referring to XDA, because I know the Droid X devs don't really frequent here, is the lack of support.

This doesn't apply to everyone, because I know some of these guys are all up in their threads helping folks and being generally great contributors. But, as an example, one of the more popular ROMs, has a thread with well over 300 posts. Of those 300 posts, less than 20 are the dev responding to problems, and most of those responses were "OMG WTF did you do? It couldn't possibly be something I did!".

I don't know. Maybe I should just keep my mouth shut, because I doubt any of you give a damn anyway, but I truly am saddened by the things I read in almost all of the X forums. I just don't understand why the folks here aren't a more tight-nit community like in a lot of the other forums. I don't know... Just don't get it...
[Droid X General] SysAdmin-X:
I agree with eris. I'm bummed so many people seem to make demands as if the devs owe everyone something. NO! They gave us a rom/theme, which is what mosted of us wanted! I hate seeing ppl complain about a devs work... If there is a bug, im sure if u kindly notify them of it without flaming in the thread, more than likely the dev would look into a fix, as I have seen done many times.

Yes, it is sad that the bootloader is locked, but at the start of my droid x days, I would never have guessed I would have all the mods available that we do right now! I would personally love to thank each dev for all their hard work on what they have contributed (and mostly for free!) to the droid community.

So in thr spirit of thanksgiving, lets not gripe and be thankful for all we've been able to "unlock" so far =)
[Droid X General] jasonm4046:
be happy with what I got BULL SH*T?

The point of unlocking the boot loader is there is only so much you can do with roms... read the forms.. there are NO true roms for droid x... only stripped down versions of the software that comes on the phone. If the boot loader was unlocked there could be roms oh say like MIUI which complete changes the UI rather than take blur off and leave plain... and I wouldn't have a problem with the bootloader being locked if the UI was atleast a half ass descent attempt by motorola to be inventive. I mean with all that can be done with Android.. all they can come up with is some social networking widgets.... seriously...!? "Oh why did you get the Droid X if you don't like the interface?" you ask... cause as far as power and basic features... at the time it was the best phone Verizon had... now there is the fascinate... which is nice also.. so if someone has one laying around they can sell me for $150 to $200... I am stuck with this one until I am able to upgrade again. Like everyone else... I greatly appreciate the devs... but... well you get the point.
[Droid X General] ZerkerEOD:
If you really want anything to happen you will have to have a law passed in the supreme court saying that the previous owner i.e. the corparation can not lock you out of any part of your device, since you did buy it, your not leasing it,therefore they should have no say over what you do with there product. Good luck getting that though because it will cost a crap load of money and then when you do appeal to the supreame court, if it goes that far, you better hope the Jude feels the same way as you and decides that it is a case worth seeing, because they only take so many cases a year.
[Droid X General] PDR447:
same can be said for the D1... sbf's made that thing unbrickable. but, it was also totally open. best of both worlds. the one thing I really want on my D2 is a TRUE custom recovery... but that's not possible with the locked loader.
[Droid X General] chaoslimits:
I bet everyone here, trying to rationalize moto's choice, would be using those custom kernals like those of us complaining. ;)
[Droid X General] manaox2:
Cue rolling stones...

The same thing that happened to the PSP community quickly happened to the Droid X community. A heightened sense of entitlement diluted the excitement of accomplishments achieved. Developers get sick of the pressure and demands of users (motorola included, partial reason for the lock). You can't wait six months for almost everything to be accomplished or two years for a new phone that will put this I've into storage. Just want to say this once. Having the customization abilities of the OG droid would be great, but you bought this phone and received what was advertised; so no one owes you anything at this point, everything else is good service and a gift that you should feel nothing but gratitude for.

sent via Droid X
[Droid X General] jasonm4046:
blah blah blah

I have shown my gratitude and donated to the developers.... so for people like you who don't want to read complaints get out of the threads that have complaints... and don't ***** about our *****ing... we spent the money, so we have the right too.... and none of us are *****ing about the developers.. we are *****ing about motorola... unless you are an employee of motorola... and then motorola is still a ***** for locking the bootloader..
[Windows Phone 7 General] MangeBalsby:
Hi boys and girls

Does someone here know if WP7 have encryption built-in on either the device or the filesystem, or any other similar security feature.

I am currently looking on changing our companys mobile platform towards WP7 and encryption will give a go or no go.

I have read a lot about this but can´t figure out who to trust.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
No, it does not offer it.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobilize/windows-phone-7-lacks-device-encryption-585
[Windows Phone 7 General] MangeBalsby:
I did not want that answer, now it looks like iPhone will be our smartphone of choice.:eek:
[Windows Phone 7 General] naplesbill:
From this article:
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
Now is not in the future though
[Windows Phone 7 General] Seed 2.0:
The money you will save waiting about 40 days will be worth it though, don't you think? Not to mention is what you really want right? :D

* Arpan Shah, Director for Product Management for Microsoft Project- more functionality coming in weeks not months. *

That to me sounds like before January.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ from my understanding nothing has been promised or guaranteed. Nothing, only rumors.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Businesses don't usually make "promises" unless they are small and borderline irrelevant.

They say something and you believe it or not.

Then they deliver or they fail to deliver. I'm pretty sure they will deliver, especially since it so brain dead easy to test for WP7 and deploy the update to every device (due to a lack of fragmentation, unified experience, Zune-based updates, etc.).
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
You have no idea how much money a large corporation .will loose waiting for something to happen.

All I am hearing from you:

"It will come soon"

However, the reality is

There more "it does not do it yet" than "it does it already" when it comes to WP7 in regards to its competitors.
[Windows Phone 7 General] prjkthack:
Galen from InfoWorld/PC World is an absolute idiot who couldn't find the Start screen if he tried.

Read this article for clarification on his lies - http://yourtechminds.com/windows-phone-7-not-the-titanic.html

He really needs to do more research before publishing his articles.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
Whoever he is the fact remains - WP7 does not support on-device encryption.
[HD2 General] SashoR19:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si8NALi15pk

freeze freeze freeze :eek:

Nice, a? :D
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
Instead to making a video; it was more useful to give us some important information.

Your Rom version?

Your HSPL/SPL version?

Radio?

Customization (in case you have; didn't see much of this)
[HD2 General] SashoR19:
It's hardware problem I think.

ROM is 1.48, I tried also 1.66 and a lot of custom builds.

SPL/HSPL no matter.

Radio - 2.05 and 2.15

In video is ROM 1.48 SPL 1.42 Radio 2.05

I don't exept to help me, I just show you the video.
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
Honestly sir stock ROM 1.48 , SPL 1.42 and Radio 2.05 are very old sir.

If I was you I take the latest stock ROM 3.14. it will upgrade also your Radio to v. 2.15.50 and your SPL version will be upgrade to SPL 3.03
[HD2 General] SashoR19:
Yes, it's old. It was installed from warranty service :D

Before that I was with HSPL2 and Energy ROM and still had problems.

I will try stock 3.14.
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
Don't forget to remove HSPL (in case you have it) when you install Stock ROM 3.14 (it isn't compatible together)

And after installation do a Hard Reset. ;)
[HD2 General] SashoR19:
Yes, I know. I don't have HSPL now.

I tried to install stock 1.66 first. The phone freezed several times during first configuration before WinMobile loads.

Next - 3.14
[HD2 General] ThoroSOE:
BEFORE INSTALLING STOCK 3.14:

I agree that it might be a hardware issue. You might want to try a Task29 to clear the memory from ANY residuals of previously installed ROMs that might interfere with each other and cause problems. But you'd have to install HSPL first to be able to run it.

Might not be the solution but is worth a shot - esp. scince sending it in would leave you out of your device for days/weeks ;-)

After that installation of 3.14 via SD card does work with HSPL scince this way of installing bulldozes over everything installed no matter what (extract RUU.exe with 7zip or the like, rename the biggest file to LEOIMG.nbh (all captal letters!) and put it on your freshly formatted SD card. Launch bootloader and it will install the ROM with proper SPL and Radio ROM). Fastest way to get to full up to date stock, I guess.
[HD2 General] SashoR19:
I always install ROMs via microSD card

3.14 in progress
[HD2 General] SashoR19:
3.14 still freeze :D
[HD2 General] casemandan:
i had no problems installing a stock rom with the hspl
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
I suppose you have a t-mous device. ;) in this case it's normal sir.
[Captivate General] Corriewf:
Am I the only one that worries more about 2.3 than 2.2? Samsung is literally the last top of the line phone to get 2.2....ridiculous....Will we see 2.3/3.0? I mean this phone should have came with 2.2 or at latest sept. I really expect samsung to support these phones through July 2011. Does anyone else? What's your expectations?
[Captivate General] Yuna:
i don't think there will be official 2.3 android...
[Captivate General] lostinbeta:
Samsung is notorious for not supporting updates. They'd rather sell new hardware than update what's out already for free. You're lucky you're getting a 2.2 update even if it is taking forever to release, 2.3 is going to be a stretch though.
[Captivate General] ghost77:
Who cares for official release , no one here is running stock anyhow. :p

Word on the street is Nexus S is Galaxy S variant and is running Gingerbread, and since Nexus line is googles developer phone , means source of gingerbread will be available .

I expect easy and smooth port to Captivate by local XDA devs.
[Captivate General] Justinph5:
Woot, never thought of that, since it will be a Galaxy S variant. That just made me happy to think about :)
[Captivate General] fatttire:
We already know the camera is different... I don't think it will be as easy as i9000 to i897.. but yes there is some hope here :). Google to the rescue!!!

Actually OP this is why we are all so excited about Cyanogen - BC it has NO Samsung components you can just upgrade to 2.3 once its released.... once cyanogen is final nobody here will be talking about Samsung anymore
[Captivate General] Corriewf:
It's gonna be quite different. The camera and the soc will be dual core. Could have other hardware different as well.

I wonder how motorola and htc can afford to keep their top phones upgraded and samsung... Doesn't. I mean look at the droid from nov 2009....

I hate to go back to an iPhone next year, but this sucks. Thank god for xda! The devs here should have their own national holiday. :)
[Captivate General] ghost77:
We don't really know anything about its spec just many rumors/fantasy's.

The only thing we do know its a bit curved , possibly a concave display , seen in one of the interview videos.
[Captivate General] mac208x:
Just a correction, x10 is still on 1.6 so wer not that far behind
[Captivate General] Corriewf:
X10 is not a top of the line device. It was supposed to be out last feb...by the time it came out, middle of the pack at best.

I would not base any standards on a SE device.
[Captivate General] shengshuyang:
we still have a lot of things to play with...I played with Samsung focus and the position of camera&usb&mic I can say it's definitely the same with captivate...
[Captivate General] malicenfz:
Very true i hate how SAMSUNG doesn't update their devices. I might just get a nexus one now haha
[Captivate General] Dxtra:
The sad part the Captivate its the only good android phone on at&t. I guess we're stuck with the captivate forever thanks att.
[Captivate General] Corriewf:
Motorola is supposed to be bringing a dual core phone to AT&T in feb. That's if you like blur. I'm also not sold on dual core either... I mean hello battery drain and for what positives? The soc in our captivate has yet to be pushed by anything android market can throw at it.

The resale value on this phone is gonna be horrible. I sold my 3GS last month for 300. Think in oct 2011 I can sell this phone for 200? Sucks. If the software support was there, they would wipe the floor with apple.
[Captivate General] fatttire:
No way. The only reason people are on this forum / using this phone is because this is the only competitive att android. I love android os, but Samsung is so terrible at public relations that nobody will want a phone that never updates and has a broken GPS. You would be lucky to get 200 in 6 months...

Seriously I hope for my sake att doesn't get another good android phone for a while... all the developers will leave this behind
[Captivate General] ghost77:
The new dual-core suppose to use less power then current single-core , if its true i wouldn't worrie about power.
[Captivate General] DAGr8:
you samsung guys are soooo pessmist ,

I come form a motorola phone with a locked bootloader , 2.2 was announce for the end of Q4

just to show there is worst then samsung ...

on a side note this devce can run custom kernel , so as long as source is release for gingerbread who cares even if its only out for htc it will eventually be ported to SGS , as long as there is a need for it it will happen ...as simple as that ...
[Captivate General] Corriewf:
See that is exactly how Apple keeps winning the war. Software support. It's an easy Eco system to buy into because the hardware is almost always supported for years. Yes closed systems. But the resale value for notebooks, computers, and iPhones is awesome. My wife will easily be able to pay for her next iPhone by selling the iPhone 4, hell we made 100 profit on both our 3GS. I have bought 2 3GS, an iPad, and a MacBook air.

I really love android and I love the hardware samsung puts out. I just wish they could grasp the concept of full customer support. They just come across as shady salesmen that can't wait to push the next big thing.

If I can't sell my captivate for much $$, I certainly won't be buying the next samsung whatever.
[Captivate General] Mac11700:
Sorry...I came from a cdma HTC Sprint hero...and people have a right to be pessimistic about all of this. I've been down this road with them where 2.2 was promised..but never delivered..Yes..we could root and flash to other roms including Cyanogen's 2.2 CM6....but..the whole point is getting what was promised to begin with..

Mac
[Captivate General] Corriewf:
The way I see it these companies should make one of the following choices:

1. Sell cellphones with untouched Android. Leave it like wp7 and ios and let google handle software upgrades etc.

2. Have your custom software but support upgrades until hardware is no longer up to par. Maybe make their software downloadable through the market so we just update as needed but can run stock android while waiting.

3. Get out of the cellphone business and just become a hardware manufacture for real cellphone companies that can provide support.

I personally think option 1 is the best.... And most profitable. I mean samsung is stretched pretty thin. They make tvs and washing machines while trying to make cell phones, manufacture chips, and be a software company. Do what you do best and stick with it.
[Captivate General] geokilla:
You guys are forgetting about Sony Ericsson. Only now did they get Android 2.1!
[Captivate General] Corriewf:
Who?

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[Fascinate Android Development] tiger4life:
Thanks to untermensch. This is a port of his original mod for the Vibrant.

I updated the reboot options to work with DJ05. The first attachment is just the reboot mod. The second attachment includes both the reboot and accurate battery mods.

These will only work if you have DJ05 installed (you would know if you did).
[Fascinate Android Development] CouchSpud:
Hahaha, I love how we have mods for DJ on XDA before the actual update. Just a Tad messed up.
[Fascinate Android Development] wasupwithuman:
That is because posting the update on here will lead to MASSIVE my phone doesnt work anymore threads.