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[G Tablet General] rushless:
A huge reason for this device is old school gaming. No wiimote- no keep (At full price. Better gamble if will get fixed by paying less money).

Seems a fair analogy is the Gtablet has a Ferrari engine, but no tires (laggy UI).... or steering wheel (accelerometer flucked' up), or lights (LCD appears to be mounted upside down due to bad viewing angles).

I could throw in more car analogies about USB and blue tooth issues, but already a rough ride.
[G Tablet General] shdwknt:
After installing zpad it is getting better. I have the device tweeked to the point I like it.. gotta factory restore right now though to get an exchange because of the screen.. one that is done though I think I,can really get used to this.. gotta get flash working though..
[G Tablet General] Crimton:
i agree as far as playing games. the on screen controls are a joke to actually be competitive in a game. wiimote makes playing old nes or psx game MUCH more enjoyable. i'm thinking this has become a deal breaker for me...
[G Tablet General] rushless:
I am going to return mine and get another one with the 60 day holiday return policy. That way, plenty of time to see if a fix is provided and more vulture time for a refurb- While still able to use the G for other stuff :)

Who knows, the 101 may be better than expected with 2.2........ VS better fix the frickin' bluetooth function on the Gtablet! ;)
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
There is a way to get the Wiimote activated on TnT Lite - it would require replacing the Settings.apk from the zPad, Nvidia dev kit or even the Vega.

But, there are issues. The ones I've noticed is that the new Settings.apk cannot change the brightness controls, and that new widgets cannot be created on the homescreen after the change - and this is why I leave the TnT Settings.apk in the Lite Build.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Catch 22 ;)

Returned my G yesterday. I will get another one with the 60 day return window for holiday purchases... and hopefully a refurb to boot :)

Need a controller to work or this device for me is a comic reader and web surfer. The Archos 101 will cover that and games.... just not PSX too well, but at least controllers work with the 101.

Perhaps we will see a stable FW build where everything works (not CM)- including things broken by Viewsonic's apparently semi-clueless OEM dev team.

I like how the Gtablet maps apps (that force data to microsd) to go the internal space, so that frees up the microsd for other things. Seems Archos has corrected the app space issue on their Gen 8s, but may have went from one extreme to another. They may have mapped ALL of the 8gb and 16gb for apps. This would mean a lot of wasted space, since 3gb is about max needed fro apps, since all larger apps force data to the microsd anyways.

If Archos mapped as reported, there is about 4.5gb wasted space on the 8gb and 12.5 on the 16gb. Ironic- that they may have gone from one extreme to another. Droid X maps this way too. Wasted space.
[Omnia II General] elderonj:
Hi,

i've set on my omnia i8000 the server, username, password and domain of the proxy of my university. the problem is that when i press ok and close everything i cannot surf on the internet. when i go back to the proxy setting, i see that the password isn't no more that i have set but an other one (it's longer).

help me please
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seamonkey420:
hello all

its been awhile since i've been on here but thought i'd start a thread since others may be having my same issue.

i'm on tmobile and still have the super awesome T-Zones Unlimited Web, $5.99/mo data plan.

i have not purchased any phones from tmobile in the last 3 years (all have been unlocks or off carrier unlocked: iphone 3gs, nexus one, bb from att, etc).

this last few weeks i bought an unsubsidized HTC HD7 from tmobile and got full 3G data without any problems. i returned the HTC HD7 last week and in turn got another unsubsidized Tmobile G2. the first day i was able to get on the web fine, however the 2nd day i was not able to get any data services to work on it; only wifi worked.

popped my sim back into my nexus one and got my usual 2mbs speeds and access to android market. put it back in G2, no internet and getting tzones unavailable upsell page. just mentioning service is down.

anyone else having problems specifically w/their G2 on Tzones? all of my other non tmobile devices work fine. are they IMEI blocking our devices??

thanks all!

btw, i am rooted and also am now running the modaco custom rom ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smirkis:
have u tried changing the apns in the connection settings page?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seamonkey420:
apns

yup, tried the usual suspects. internet2.voicestream.com, internet3.voicestream.com, wap.voicestream.com.

same results, but again ONLY on my G2. nexus one and iPhone are fine. ??
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ratchetrizzo:
tmobile knows you have a g2 based on the IMEI, they will force you to pay for a android data plan.

You have no way around it with a tmobile android device. The best you are going to get is the $20 preferred android plan.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seamonkey420:
thats what i was thinking. i wonder if i bought one off of ebay would it matter? if not, i'm prob going to return it since i still get full 3G on my nexus one and tethering for the $5.99 /mo :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] corrado85:
best bet probably to stick with nexus
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diversificationied:
The HD7 didn't have an issue with the data plan?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sino8r:
Did you switch the phone listed on your account? also you could try spoofing the user agent on the browser...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sino8r:
Yeah, only the android phones have this issue. Switching the phone model listed on my account remedied that ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diversificationied:
You're using a g2 with a tzone or $10 data plan?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sino8r:
Unforntuately it was removed a stupid rep removed it after being grandfathered in. but... I had it working on my MTS. I would get the same error about switching plans on browser and I would change my pphone model and it would disappear. i'm currently on a $20 data plan w/ messaging ($5 bucks cheaper/got it after *****ing about the stupid rep removing my old data plan without permission) for android but it might be worth to try switching models. it worked for me 4 months ago...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seamonkey420:
Yes, the HTC HD7 got full 3G data on tzones ($5.99/mo) w/o any problems. seems like android phones sold by tmobile won't work and in turn they upsell you an 'android' data plan when i know for a fact that tzones works just fine w/android (ie my nexus one purchased unlocked from google).

i tried changing my phone type in my account to unlisted but had no luck. my nexus one and iphone 3gs were fine w/the epc.tmobile.com apn and have not had any issues. imo it seems like imei blocking since they have the full database of imeis for their own G2s where my nexus one was direct from google and iphone was at&t and not compatible 3G.

i probably should have set my phone type to unlisted and let it stay as that for a day but figured it prob wouldn't work anyways and i wanted to return phone in the 14day timeframe. loved the phone and may get one online and see if that matters (not tied to my line, imei wise and prev account may have had proper plan so option is turned on for device; speculating on last bit).

any other T-Zones success / fail stories w/the G2??

i just ended up returning my G2.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smirkis:
I tried it when the G1 came out. I used an iphone forever and didn't wanna upgrade from the tzones hack lol. in the end, tmobile has the cheapest rates possible. I had to leave the tzones behind after 4 years of it never failing, due to android
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ratchetrizzo:
They DO have a list of IMEI's that they go by.

No matter where you get your G2 from, if you don't have a android plan you will get the update message and have to get a android plan. Non tmobile android phones and all windows mobile smartphones have always worked with the tzones plan, for some reason tmobile doesn't care enough about WM to enforce it, and they really can't imei filter on non tmobile android devices. This has been discussed to death over the years on howardforums.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seamonkey420:
makes sense w/imeis. just wanted to confirm that others had similar experience. glad i got my unlocked nexus one from google :)

that phone sure has held its own this whole year! G2 is nice though. if i could have used on my tzones i would have kept it too! (had it rooted, custom modaco rom on it and all)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] henryr934:
Just pay stop been cheap. Lol
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seamonkey420:
hehe, with the way i go through unlocked phones, i have to be cheap somewhere. :) ended up with a Galaxy Tab instead and using the Nexus One as main phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomiq:
20 some days after this

same thing seems to be happening to me, i have been using a Htc touch pro 2 for about 1 YEAR, i got initially a "Pay By the Month" plan in early 2010, it was:

- $40 Even More Plus™ 500 Talk with FlexPay®

- $10 Unlimited Web for Phones with FlexPay

It wouldnt work with my touch pro 2, but then i discovered that you can put an APN (internet2.voicestream.com) to get it working, i did that and set that i was using a Motorola razr in the my tmobile account, and it did work, then i stop paying the monthly charge to see if i would still have the internet working, and surpisingly it kept working, so for a whole year i used the internet.. in the month of december i noticed that my internet speed got faster all the suden, from downloading at 26 kbps to 120 kbps so i thought, wow this is so cool, and decided to buy the G2, they just delivered to my house yesterday ( Jan 21 2011 ) i got it because they had a promotion of get a 2 year contract with tmobile and get g2 for free ( promotion that only lasted 2-3 days), and so as soon as it arrived i put my sim card of the touch pro 2 to the G2, did set the apn, it worked, but after 3-4 hours, it stopped working, it shows "Subscription Upsell Required" but if i put the sim card back to the Touch pro 2 the internet works.

i have not done anything as far as Rooting Flashing Unlcoking to my G2, but as you guys were saying it may have to do with the IMEI :/

does anybody have a solution?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sino8r:
Its the imei. They trace it to match an android device and you must have the android data plan to get internet working. There is no workaround unfortunately...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomiq:
How about Editing the Imei of the phone, i've seen some threads about it, but it's illegal isnt?

i'm willing to take tha chance :}

where to go?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daaango:
lol google is your friend

but from I've heard its sorta difficult and yeah, illegal :/

not worth it in my opinion
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mayurolla:
That is illegal and may be against xda rules. Tread carefully.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomiq:
hmm.. that or pay $360 for a whole year of unlimited data with t-mobile :/

i can use that money wiser x)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daaango:
Well don't get caught and end up paying more than $360 in fines and possible prison time x)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atomiq:
OK, GOT IT, NO more lipservice, i said i would take a chance :)

can't find anything on google, so where, how and how much?

:rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hilaireg:
Don't Get Us In Trouble

@atomiq:

What part of this rule isn't clear to you? Let me highlight the "between the lines" bits that you should have picked up on ...

9. Don't get us in trouble.

Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does not mean we agree with everything the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.

Forum Rules, Please Read!
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] stevencpoynter:
Ive been trying to port this animation and haven't really gotten anywhere. I thought I had an idea but i'm pretty sure it's bunk due to the size of this animation (somewhere around 15megs for the OG droid). Anyone have any advice on how to get this working with the G2?

Here's the youtube for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF_vfEs6Jok

Here is the bootanimation.zip that was developed for the droid 1 earlier this year, I had a tough time finding it as every site link was broken, what's up with that?

http://www.mediafire.com/?gwim34391f17akx

Any help would be appreciated, at first I would somewhat play but now all it does is just jump straight to the home screen (no animation whatsoever).

BTW, I saw that there were a couple other boot animation threads here however I didn't want to thread jack with questions about this animation. If this is deemed redundant then it's cool to get rid of it, just frustrated right now.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] ibemad1:
The g2 is probably booting too fast for the entire animation to load and play.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] stevencpoynter:
That's what I was thinking, whouda thought that there would be a day that a phone would boot to fast. lol

I found a good site that explains the desc.txt which is what I was wanting to edit.

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/33932-bootanimation-zip-file-explained.html

So is this ultimately a no go?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] ibemad1:
If I were you I would just try incresing the fps from 30 to 60 and see if more of it shows.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] stevencpoynter:
Well, I managed to get it running again, was compressing it the wrong way after editing.

IDK, I think this phone just boots too fast for such a large animation, I mean...there's like 300+ PNG's to load before the phone boots. Maybe go even higher with the FPS? I doubt that would do anything.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] ibemad1:
If you went any higher I think you'd lose the effect of the boot animation. Running cyanogenmod from the beginning of the cyanogenmod animation to phone ready is about 6-7 seconds lol...

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] PanCubano:
bumping a super old thread looking for support.

i saw the video for this bootanimation and thought it looked really good.

it is a rather large and lengthy bootanimation and i tried for a couple of hours trying to get it to at least show up on my g2 all night, but, got nothing.

i dont know what the problem could be though. i managed to get a bootanimation from over at the evo forums to work but cant get this one up and running.
[G2 and Desire Z General] grn03exp:
So i bought my G2 three days after launch and had none of the common issues until about a week before the OTA. I started experiencing the shutdowns at random and it slowly got more frequent (4 times a day). The OTA hit and i didnt have another shutdown for a week. Then one. Then two about three days later. Now its back to an everyday thing. Is there something i can do to fix it. Im not rooted and im not using any weird widgets or apps.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ibemad1:
Is it rebooting or just shutting down and you have to press the power button to turn it back on? If its just shutting down and not rebooting then I think you might have a loose battery.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
[G2 and Desire Z General] grn03exp:
Well, i hit the power button to wake up the screen and i get nothing. After a few seconds the white screen with the htc logo appears and the phone boots. I assume its shutdown cause it acts like its off. If it was a loose battery why would the OTA slow it down for a bit?
[G2 and Desire Z General] chewy106:
After the OTA (that was supposed to fix the random reboots/shutdowns), I had the same thing. About a week of none, and then they started again. Since I've perm-rooted, installed the BaconBits kernel and messed around with some Sense ROMs. Not one shutdown. I think T-Mobile's ROM build(s) for this phone just suck and that's the problem. Only on stock have I had the issue.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rolandoagarcia:
Yea I'm Experiencing the same issue. I Upgrade the OTA about three weeks ago and now out of know where it randomly turns off it doesn't shut OFF , it just turns off and then i have to take the battery out and reboot it all over again? Any Suggestions?
[G2 and Desire Z General] shortlived:
I have the same issue however i thinks its due to a loose battery.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sekhar_777:
Please see this post, I think this problem is wider spread than you may think: DesireZ issue
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
I noticed that the Evo has a touch sensitive lag that is more apparent than any other device. A lot of noobs here thought it was due to the FPS but obviously it wasn't. I can figure it out myself because logically, screen size does not change how heat is transfered between the screen. I'm really curious what exactly it is.... notice how on the iPhone/iPad/iTouch there is zero to no lag in touch display and movement which is what makes gaming on Apple so wicked. The Evo is by far the worst device for this.... Its not a deal breaker by any means, but it is very noticeable when switching between an Apple product and the Evo.

Anyone got any theories as to what it may be? The lag is definitely there but nobody is really talking about it. There MUST be a fix - and NO its not putting custom rom like CM6 on it... its not a rom issue.

I really hope that in future devices Android phone makers will focus on reducing lag times. If there is any apparent gap between iOS and Android besides that app market it would be the lag issue. The reason I even thought of this was when reading a gaming thread earlier today - made me curious...
[EVO 4G General] mbaseball3:
Oh I totally agree! Just spent 30 mins on 1 level of angry birds trying to be precise and ugh....I'm still trying to calm down.....damn frustration. I've never really spent more than 5 mins with an apple phone so I can't compare. But I could totally tell the lag. But really I've only actually noticed it a couple of times so I dunno what's up

Sent from my Evo
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
Well of course you're right...

Though I have seen the lag disappear with the addition of Kingx BFS11 kernel. So technically it's not a rom, but a kernel has fixed it for me.
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
Really? So it does not matter how fast you move left to right the screen stays perfectly in sync with the origin....?
[EVO 4G General] willy900wonka:
Or even in circles.
[EVO 4G General] DonutGrunt:
Well, my EVO is pretty responsive, scrolling and pressing things is super responsive.

Kinda weird, but I open the App menu and just scroll through the apps list up and down, kinda weird but it's just fascinates me sometimes :D.

Maybe you have too much processes going on?

I'm using EvIo Caulkin ROM
[EVO 4G General] Systemfraud:
Yeah, this problem was a big letdown for me... like you said, not a deal breaker, but very annoying. It just seems to be tiny things that they overlooked. But it appears not so tiny when a lot of other people notice the issue as well.
[EVO 4G General] josh995:
Weird. I'm using 100% stock Evo and I also have used an iPhone extensively, and I don't notice any difference to be totally honest... the complete opposite in fact. I've always concluded the Evo was one of the best.

I'm just an average user, maybe I'm not trained enough to notice lol. :)

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
No problems here
[EVO 4G General] ImmortalLuD:
I only notice it with Sense UI... Other phones like the Epic or whatever, seem to have less of a lag with touch. The minute I install an AOSP ROM, it's butter smooth and more responsive.

And it's not a ROM issue, just a Sense issue. :)
[EVO 4G General] dglowe343:
DC 3.6 and net's 4.2.1 bfs. Responsive as hell. Though, before the fps fixes, lag and studder were very apparent.

Sent from my HTC SUPERSONIC
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
The iPhone's touch panel is just better.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
That's not what the OP is talking about. You're thinking of "visual smoothness", the OP is talking about touch accuracy.

Here's a article that goes into it and shows how much better the iPhone is. It's from earlier this year, so no EVO or iPhone 4 comparisons, but it should be a similar case for both.
[EVO 4G General] deathsled:
never had any issues with screen lag/responsiveness.

On a side note though, and very weird, I went to do a test in Angry Birds like someone had mentioned and Angry Birds was mysteriously no longer installed on my phone...bizarre....
[EVO 4G General] Systemfraud:
Well, guess I misunderstood the OP as well. Mine is very responsive. Sorry.
[EVO 4G General] derekwilkinson:
I'm using MIUI and Zen kernel and have no noticeable lag, even when playing games. I will say, however, that the glass screen of the iPhone does give it a performance boost on touchscreen response.
[EVO 4G General] Jbcarrera:
i had some lag issues with fresh 3.4 with the stock kernel switched to kings bfs 11 touch lag gone don't know why but it was switched to net's and lag was back left that kernel on and recalibrated the touch screen by calibrateing the keyboard and lag disapeared again but that was me don't know if it will work for anyone else
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Actually, the touch panel on the evo is simply the best on the market. Look up Atmel MaXTouch... This might simply be a driver issue or even a design decision.

Atmel maXtouch: http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp

It even supports gloved hands if the OEM wants that enabled. :o
[EVO 4G General] theoner1:
The only lag I have is when the phone is plugged in/charging. Other than that there is absolutely no other lag on my Evo. Those that are experiencing lag make sure it's not during charging.

On a side note the OP is truly an iPhone bias according to his previous post. Thought It's pretty funny.
[EVO 4G General] xNotta:
If you're up-to-date and you have a significant amount of free space on your internal storage and your phone is still laggy... return it because it's obviously defective.

Try a factory reset and/or a new kernel. Then kill off some of the sprint and htc bloatware.

Going from HTC Kernel #11 to #17 there was a noticeable difference in performance for me.

Going from there to AOSP was a complete improvement.

The stock rom is unbearable once you use a tweaked rom.

If none of that works I would bet your phone is defective and you should go back to your iphone.

Want to supply us with a software version and kernel version of your phone?

Or atleast something more than "The Evo sucks and the iphone is great"
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
Actually if you download the draw pad or w/e. And you touch and slide slowly, you can see the the touch screen not be very responsive at the begging, but eventually catches up. It's very fast, but if you look close you can tell a slight lag. Although I don't see a problem with it, since it's barely even noticable.
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
Yeah thats what I'm talking about. If you move your fingers really fast between homescreens while keeping it down on the screen you will be on the right side while the screen will be loading the left then catch up to the right. I tried a lot of custom roms and kernals and it seems it can be lessened by not fixed. Its very small and was fixed a lot by the FPS issue but there still seems to be an initial registration lag.