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[myTouch 4G General] adamlrutledge:
What I dont like

Just got the Phone. Had it since release date. Had the g2 for a few days then found out about the mt4g which had better hardware specs on paper so switched out.

Here is what really makes me not happy with my phone.

My Major complaints is phone is very slow at times. Must be due to the HTC Sense I am guessing. Video files I have before on nexus/g2 lag on the mytouch 4g and are very choppy. I have a few albums of pics plus what I took from camera. Laggy as hell. Will not generate thumbnails on most of them and the ones it does the thumbnails for takes forever. Switching from photo to photo in full screen mode takes forever or gets stuck. Switching between browser windows is horribly slow too. Also even launching/ closing programs. Everything is terrible slow at times.

I know nothing about this, but I am hoping to look into rooting, or some way of removing all the HTC crap software & hoping to run stock/vanilla android on this phone.

I just signed up for this forum so I will be browsing for guides but if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be awesome.
[myTouch 4G General] 21productionz:
This is the best phone I ever had, but still not perfect. So far the only other phone that made me happy like this was the Storm.

My only complaint is the camera focus sucks donkey balls. I could put my Storm lens on my eyeball and take a great close up. With the MT4G I have to be at least 8" away from it to get it to focus and even then it's hit or miss.

I had the G2 for 2 weeks and didn't like it. It was a great phone, but bulky and the reception sucked. Contrary to popular belief it should be a phone first and mini computer second.

Here is an example with my 3.2mp Storm

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=451289&stc=1&d=1290925564

Here is an example of MT4G set at 3mp

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=451290&stc=1&d=1290925564

And here is another MT4G set at 5mp

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=451292&stc=1&d=1290925795
[myTouch 4G General] adamlrutledge:
My Thoughts on mt4g

Love it. I bought the G2, then with a few days saw mt4g hit stores with better hardware. Returned g2 & switched it out.

Now I came from g1, Then Nexus 1 so loved the vanilla android that was on the g2. Here is my ONLY complaint, and its a BIG ONE! Let me tell you HTC Sense is HORRIBLE. Why?? SLOW!! I have several hundred pictures on my phone. Had the same ones on my nexus one. Will only generate thumbnail previews for a few, just keeps waiting and waiting. Even for the pics I take with the phone. The video files I had before that I now I have on the mt4g are so choppy its not enjoyable.

So I just downloaded "Launcherpro" & upgraded to plus. Now use that instead of HTC sense. WAY BETTER. All complaints I had are now gone. After you configure it, it WILL run just like stock android.

Check it.
[myTouch 4G General] surfnhawaii808:
I love my mytouch 4gand have no complaints about it whatsoever! I previously owned a iPhone 4, nice phone but att service SUCKS here u. Hawaii .... i would NEVER return to a iphone 4 after owning this mytouch4g, even if service was BETTER back on att... the phone is that good!!!
[myTouch 4G General] versak:
very happy

this phone is way better than the MT3G. I had Cyanmod 6.0 RC1 and was beginning to feel like the phone was getting slower.

My big complaints about the MT4G are the following:

The power button is in the worst spot. When rotated and texting or gaming, my hand is constantly pressing the power button and prompting to be shutdown or rebooted.

Bloatware. There are about 15 programs that I will never use and cannot uninstall. There are many Yahoo programs, several game demos, and T-Mobile MyAccount stuff that take up a lot of icon space that i would like to free up.

Overall, the phone has been fast, responsive, great phone quality and incredible graphics. Battery life is fine as long as I am not playing Angry Birds for 3 hours.
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
Root your phone and kill them off. I'll surely do it once I received it.
[myTouch 4G General] Mftek1:
That's what I did. I also remapped the Genius button to short press = google search long press = genius

Sent from my HTC Glacier
[myTouch 4G General] Nutzzer:
mftek,

After you rooted your phone and killed off the bloatware, did you notice your battery life improve? Mine sucks to the point I'm hesitant to use it without charging the phone up during the day. I believe the major reason battery life sucks so bad is that I have gmail and Touchdown for exchange using push so constantly linked up.
[myTouch 4G General] Mftek1:
Well to be honest my battery life is quite awesome!

I deleted myaccount and stocks which seemed to drain the battery quite quickly.

I also have my brightness set to minimal..

Sent from my HTC Glacier
[myTouch 4G General] greenstuffs:
never seen so much bloat in my life on a phone, my fave, mobitv, my demo, monopoly, my device, rockband oh and worst of all the "retard" button FFS who really use that ****
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
May you post the method over here or dev section as well as sending me PM?

nexus one LED flashlight works, NO LOCK works.
[myTouch 4G General] Akulamenuri:
Im happy with the phone, after I rooted it, removed bloat, remapped the stupid genius button, changed the interface with Launchpro, and added a better lock screen via Widget Locker.
[myTouch 4G General] henryblank:
Hi, how much is your battery lasting you now ? I removed the same apps and between 8am (full charge) and 3pm with only a few phone calls, I'm down to 80% already!:mad:
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Agreed, I think they got totally carried away with Sense and bloatware. This phone should have a first boot option of vanilla or sense.

My mom bought a Toshiba laptop in the 90s that on first boot offered a choice of windows 3.1.1 or windows 95. I thought that was pretty cool.
[myTouch 4G General] stevenbriggs:
Ok, so after two weeks of using the Mt4G, here are my comments:

The Good:

1) Even with the garbage I've listed below, this is still - by far - the best replacement for my Nexus One that I have found yet, and I've bought every Android phone T-Mobile has to offer (as well as the HD2 & HD7).

2) The MySense interface isn't horrible, actually. I'd like more themes and stuff, but I was surprised by how well I actually get along with it. I just strongly dislike the Sense standard apps (email, sms, gallery) over the stock Android versions.

3) It's got excellent weight and feel to it. Better than the Nexus One, even. I love the overall appearance, and think it feels pretty natural to hold.

The Bad:

1) Cell reception seems to drop to Edge a whole hell of a lot, and I even get the GPRS icon pretty often, too. I'm right in the middle of an extremely well-covered area, where any of my other phones (Nexus One, HD2, G1) have excellent reception.

2) WiFi gives me the same grief. I can be 10ft from the WAP, and the WiFi calling is complaining about having too weak of a signal. This is confirmed for me in at least three different settings, on at least three different WiFi networks. Weird.

3) The power button blows. Why in the world did they ever make it recessed, so that I can't even really feel by touch to turn it off/on? Not a fan, but no biggie.

4) I wish the optical trackball had a multi-color LED in it. Again, no biggie, but the Nexus One was awesome for that.

5) The Genius button is lame as hell. They should have, at a minimum, given us the option to map it how we want.

6) The a/c input / micro-usb slot is in a *horrible* spot. Makes the thing impossible to handle while charging.

So yeah. Even though I listed more things that suck than I like, the truth is that they're all no big deal, and the signal stuff (I suspect) will improve with age (as updates come out, new ROMs are baked, etc). I'm in love with the phone, and don't think there is much else out there that can compare with it.
[myTouch 4G General] splat matt:
Are you joking?

MT4G (HTC Glacier) using XDA app.
[myTouch 4G General] robb25j:
From 8-3 in 7hrz your phone only lost 20% worth of battery hell wish mine was like that
[myTouch 4G General] nvmehaterz:
i love my mt4g, wouldnt take it back for anythingbat this moment. i even probably wont root it at the moment cause its blazing fast and i just love adw and lpp
[myTouch 4G General] jbg1:
i get my mt4g tomorrow im glad im off and should get to play with it all day hopefully it gets here early :)
[myTouch 4G General] vdub804:
Poor battery life and the espresso ui are the only gripes I have with this phone, (we need more devs for the Mt4g) .
[myTouch 4G General] samsci:
What kind of battery life are you getting? I am getting pretty good time. Course compared to my MT3G with Cyan 6.1, this is like Heaven! :)
[myTouch 4G General] henryblank:
Totally LOUSY battery life. My previous non-android phone lasted my two days easy with moderate use. My MT4G gives me 10 hours (8am - 8pm) TOPS with the same use .. totally not worth it, I'll be putting this away and buying another phone here shortly.

Note: My screen is dimmed all the way, no vibration, no animation, no life wall paper, and still I get 10 hours tops! What if I had all the bells and whistles on? 6 hours? Who the hell wants to walk around with a phone and a charger ?

Great phone all around - IF you don't mind the battery going dead after a day of light use.
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
those of you complaining about battery life should use the iphone 3GS. my gf has no data and cant make it through the day. My mytouch can

your non smartphone will always last longer than your android device. Until batt tech comes up this will just be something we have to live with

Question to those who have rooted and removed bloatware (and overclocked?) do you notice a huge difference?
[myTouch 4G General] vw671:
Was you previous phone a smart-phone? 8am-8pm is 12hrs not 10. The two longest running smart phones that exist (Droid-X and iphone4) have 7 hrs of "talk time". What are you comparing the MT4G to?
[myTouch 4G General] henryblank:
I'm rooted, removed ALL T-Mobile bloat, have screen dimmed all the way .. and still get one day max with light to moderate use.
[myTouch 4G General] splat matt:
I'm counting 12 hours if you are going 8am to 8pm. A smartphone's battery life is much shorter than any dumb-phone.
[myTouch 4G General] macheteZen:
Still New to The Android Scene but this Phone rocks.

I recently left my smartphone jr. (iPhone 3g) I went out and got the Galaxy S and loved a lot of its features, like the camera quality and battery life and of course that screen. But I decided to wait and see what else came out before using the upgrade so I returned it. Then I tried out the G2 for about 4 weeks. It was fast, it was stable, and it got 7.72 mb/s over the air at my house. But... It was huge (like a brick) and its hinge/keyboard was not really my style or utilized. So again I returned it and waited with growing anticipation the Mt4g. Come November 4th I had one in my hand. IMHO:

Pros:

Size-Perfect Pocket Fitting, feels more solid in hand than expected

Speed-snap8255 need I say more

Iced Glacier available-waiting on CM? just stop :D

Cons:

Cameras are not as functional/quality as hoped

Battery life is okay (needs root access/bloatware removal, and Task Kill)

Runs hot when overclocking :p
[myTouch 4G General] vdub804:
I get around 6 to 8 hours of medium use facebook, twitter, youtube, xda, text, internet, phone calls, my iphone 4 gets the same treatment but it magically stays charged for more than a day.
[myTouch 4G General] Spudge:
Yeah I notice a pretty good difference. I keep an eye on the system using Watchdog and as long as I'm not in and out of the lab (always searching for service in there) I can get

2 days minimal use

12-14 hrs normal use (syncing, wordfeud, messaging, etc)

6-7 hrs HARD use (constant streaming media, intensive games, etc)

My fiance can play Alchemy for HOURS with minimal drain

(I've rooted and removed bloatware/unneccessary apps, running LauncherPro and minimal widgets/persistant apps)
[myTouch 4G General] versak:
remove the bloat?

what do you use to remove the bloat? i've rooted but i guess i still don't have permissions to remove them.
[myTouch 4G General] Spudge:
TitaniumBackup. You have to update (revert?) to a different version of BusyBox (not sure, but I think the thread is in MT4G development on how to do this) to see all the apps. I've just deleted what I KNOW is unneccessary; the app list for the G2 seems to be a good place to start to do a generous kill from what I've heard
[myTouch 4G General] jbg1:
hey i got my mt4g earlier i just called and set up the imei waiting on the ota but i did notice and want to know if this is common does light from screen leak thru the sides where the home and genius button is for some people? i got the white one if that matters
[myTouch 4G General] TeeJay3800:
Yeah, mine has that around the buttons on the bottom, and also has a thin sliver of light visible coming from behind the area where the black meets the top edge of the phone. It's been like that since I took it out of the box and doesn't really both me anymore.

The way to glass cover joins with the outer frame of the phone also isn't perfect (it's a little higher in the upper right corner than it is in upper left corner).

Neither of these things are a big deal to me and I don't notice them anymore. I've been assuming most other people wouldn't notice them...I'm just really picky.
[myTouch 4G General] RicoPer:
I'm a iPhone convert and I must admit, this thing run circles around the iPhone. Very satisfied!
[myTouch 4G General] jbg1:
yeah me 2 when i first noticed it i was like :confused: but then after a while i really didnt start seeing it anymore its more on the left side by the home button and a just a small amount on the genius side im picky too lol
[myTouch 4G General] gabelegos:
I just for mine for free on a site named cellhub.com, I ordered it yesterday and got it today. also free shipping and free activation.
[myTouch 4G General] rjhay22:
Hmm, is there no Android phones up there?! lol
[myTouch 4G General] waterbouys:
Took MT4G back today

Hi I returned my MT4G and my HD7 to t-mobile got them on t-mobile's buy one get one free deal Both were nice phone's

I am a nexus one owner and i think it's as good as the MT4G for me running MicroMod v2.14 Desire SuperHybrid and eViL's NXSense myTouch4G v.0.6 (But that's just me)I'm going to wait for something better But if i didn't have a nexus one i would have keep the MT4G took the HD7 back for a second MT4G it is a nice phone but so is the nexus one can't wait for Gingerbread
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Funny you say that, I'm thinking of remorsing mine for a N1, although the thought of being without this phone makes me pretty unhappy, lol.

I just don't like Sense, grrr...
[myTouch 4G General] waterbouys:
That why i love my nexus 1.i can run Sense MIUI,Froyo, Enomther's TheOfficial Nexus1 and so much more I'm sure there will be lots of Rom for the MT4g soon
[myTouch 4G General] rjhay22:
You going back to your old razr? or nokia? Good luck :P
[myTouch 4G General] Biggizzel:
I love it!!! Coming from BB to Android is a whole new world for me. I've done nothing but read for the past couple of weeks. My only 2 complants are. When I charge my phone it goes crazy & keeps loading the desktop clock. Also the battery life is so-so. But still loving it!!!

Also I looked at the G2 & i didn't care for it.
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
I basically satisfied with my plum MT4, but speaker severely sucked.

The screen looks exceptionally good even it's not AMOLED.

Reception...it's about same as nexus one on 3G mode.

Speed...wow!

Navpad...it's good as nexus one.

Memory card...it can use 32GB with no problem and I have packed the files from original memory card and secure it.

wifi calling is decent.

I am satisfied.
[myTouch 4G General] waterbouys:
Ya i forgot the battery life sucked 8hr max my nexus goes all day with all the Sense widget and live wallpaper
[myTouch 4G General] keverline:
I can honestly say this is the only phone that I've had zero regrets about. Almost every day I find some new thing it can do that amazes me.
[myTouch 4G General] Dantet:
I had the G2 for a couple of weeks and it was great, I switched from being an iPhone user (2g, 3g, and 3gs) but I got my gf a myTouch 4g and I was getting a little jelous so I went and paid cash for the phone, I love this thing it does everything and anything I want it to do, I don't even have it rooted, once I figure out how to root it I'm sure I'll love it even more. iPhone killer for sure, no doubt in my mind, android just needs netflix and chase app! but the mytouch 4g is flawless.
[myTouch 4G General] mingkee:
Chase Mobile is available on the market.
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
Why do I constantly think about returning mine? I'm honestly not sure. Love the phone but question my decision to buy it.

Btw, is anyone else getting random reboots when using Navi? I think it happens if I use Navi and make a call at the same time. This phone has so much power I can't imagine it being overloaded by any amount of multitasking.
[myTouch 4G General] macheteZen:
+1 perfectly said
[myTouch 4G General] dustrho:
I love this phone but hate the physical buttons. I'm going to be getting my fifth one hopefully today (all exchanges) because they have all had creaking/squeaking buttons. Everything else about the phone rocks, but wish the buttons were capacitive and not physical.
[myTouch 4G General] nmw407:
I got my son the Vibrant and after playing with it for about a day, I love my MT4G even more. I actually like the physical buttons, even if it creaks a bit.

This phone is fast, responsive, and the bloatware is really not too bad compared to what came with the Vibrant. Looking at the Vibrant, there were 5 screens of apps, and I would have to say 4 screens were just bloatware.

This phone is heavier compared to the Vibrant, but it feels like a solid phone and not a plastic toy like the Vibrant. I like the heftier feel of the MT4G and that metal back. It dissipates heat from the battery much faster.

Overall, I'm really impressed with this phone. I can show it around with pride, especially to all the iphoney people and their so-called jesus-phone.
[myTouch 4G General] dustrho:
Here's a quick video I made of the creaking buttons on my fourth MT4G, to prove I'm not going crazy here. Can't believe I've had this many problems with this phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI33T7C38MI
[myTouch 4G General] Mftek1:
Oh wow bro.... That sounds like nails on a chalkboard
[myTouch 4G General] larryg2k3:
I got creaking once in a while on my back button, but not often enough or bad enough for me to exchange phones. Though I have to say that I haven't noticed it recently.
[myTouch 4G General] xs11e:
My MT4G is close to being the perfect phone, there's only one problem and it's a biggie that may result in reverting to my BB 9700, I can't hear the damn thing!

Please see my post titled "Help with volume please" here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=886286
[myTouch 4G General] Arcadia310:
Just saw your vid. Mine isn't nearly that bad, only the back button creaks and I can hardly hear it.
[myTouch 4G General] blancoisgod:
wow, thats horrible.Rub some lubricant on there(stuff that wont break down plastic)
[myTouch 4G General] going_home:
I wish I had the G2 back now that I've gotten the MyTouch 4G.

:(
[myTouch 4G General] jeff7790:
Pretty good with it got me the good screen , coming from an iPhone 4
[myTouch 4G General] kkevin94:
care to share why??
[myTouch 4G General] going_home:
No doubt the MyTouch 4G is superior to the G2 but T-Mobile

made a mess out of it with the bloatware UI crap.

I'm too used to the stock Android on my Nexus One.

I returned the Nexus S yesterday morning to Best Buy and

bought the MT4G last night on C/L.

When they show the mug shot of the enemy of electronics, its a picture of me.

I will sure enough brick the phone if I try and root it or any of that stuff you genius's do.

:(
[myTouch 4G General] Arcadia310:
When you remove bloatware and install launcher pro plus its nearly the same thing.

HTC Glacier Running CyanogenMod 6.2
[myTouch 4G General] Icebergxx:
I ****ing hate this phone.

I've had my g1 for two years, and it's rooted running a 2.2 rom right now and I love it, and I dispise this My Touch 4 G bull****.

It has 37 bloatware applications I can't uninstall because I don't feel like learning how to use ADB and am waiting for an easier rooting method to come around, the UI tweaks to it are ugly and hard to escape.

I'm using Zeam for my home app because the whole tap the arrow just seems backwards, I'd like to switch/pull it open.

So I'm using Zeam, and the apps don't have the stupid box tint around them, UNTIL I PULL DOWN THE NOTIFICATION BAR :|

and it's just so god damn stupid. I hate all touch screen devices, this phone isn't cool or neat or special it's just a half way decent device that Tmobile slopped a terrible UI all over :|

37 bloatware SYSTEM applications :|

So god damn stupid.

The market should make sections for carriers i.e.

Sprint

T Mobile

Verizon

where you can download all this dumb **** but they shouldn't ever be automatic.

It looks sloppy, my drawer is a mess and the only nice thing I have to say about this phone is it makes a good pocket camera.

I think the wifi antena is at the top of the phone which sucks when I'm texting in landscape, and best thing is it doesn't have/uses a micro USB port, that's SUCH A GREAT IDEA. /sarcasm.

Hate this junky ass phone.

hate the My Touch line.

Would gladly trade for a new G2, to bad I'm cancelling my phone all together soon.

(So the whole pocket camera thing may actually come in handy)

Laslty. The phone has 8 hardware buttons, and it doesn't lag. CONGRATULATIONS you FINALLY got the first My Touch device right, it only took two or three tries.

For every bloatware application or application short cut / hated icon in my drawer that does 10 stupid things I'll never want or use, I can find 3 better alternatives in the market for all of them.

I hate this device and there is nothing more I can say to express it.

Hopefully when I can comfortably root this POS and install Cyanogen the UI is like my G1 Cyan rom and doesn't retain all the uglyness of the my touch ****.
[myTouch 4G General] eriksoto:
I really love my myTouch 4g. It's my first phone and I have no regrets buying it.
[myTouch 4G General] eunkipark92:
its not hard, ill break it into simple steps for you

i break it into simple steps for you will take you 10min at the max

you need to have 2.2.1 (which is the OTA) you should have it by now.

1. download visionary, root.zip from the s=on s=off guide. its in the middle of android development section of mytouch 4g.

unzip the root.zip and place the folder on your sd card

2. download android terminal emulator from the market

3. go to setting -> application-> turn off fastboot

go to setting -> application-> development -> turn on USB debugging

4. open visionary and click temp root. you will get black screen, dont freak out, give a min

5. open android terminal emulator

type in "su" then click entet (without " mark)

it will probably say permission is denied

type in "su" again, then click enter

supper user will pop up asking for permission click "allow"

type in "cd /sdcard/root" then click enter

type in "sh root.sh" then click enter

give a min or two when it says turn off and go into recovery to check if s is on or off, exit out of emulator

6. turn off the phone, then reboot into hboot by holding volume down and power button

7. it should say S=OFF

now using your volumebutton and power button

navigate to fastboot then reboot

8. when it reboot go to visionary again and click permenant root

it will reboot your phone

your done

your phone is now rooted