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[Legend General] kermit26:
HTC Germany Announcement

Message from HTC Germany (facebook.com/htcde):

"Hi, wir wissen ihr wartet verbissen auf das Froyo-Update für das Legend. Deshalb hier das klarstmögliche Statement dazu: Legend Froyo ist nah, wir sind in der finalen Testphase - Release innerhalb der nächsten 2 Wochen. Wildfire Update - geplanter Release dieses Jahr. Sollte ein Fehler bei einem der ROMs auftreten, kann sich das auch wieder nach hinten verschieben können. Ziel ist ein voll funktionsfähiges Update!"

Translation:

"Hi, we know that you are waiting doggedly for the Froyo update for Legend. Thus here is the clearest statement that is possible: Legend Froyo is close, we are in the final test phase - release within the next 2 weeks. Wildfire update - planned release for this year. If any error occurs with one of these ROMs it is possible that it will be delayed again. Target is a fully functional update!"

Link: facebook.com/htcde/posts/174218042607357

Comments welcome!
[Legend General] Chaotick:
The test stage are since october as I recall...In the next two weeks?? So what the Vodafone users have unfinished/untested FroYo vesion...What the hell?? The wildfire users are also screwed they will not see the update in all possibility this year...
[Legend General] iodine:
Maybe Sinterklaas is not "kind" after all!? I think he prefers cookies to Frozen Yoghurt!
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Because the froyo roms with sense do NOT have that ability.. they can only run sense .. no other launcher is available..
[Legend General] NdrU:
"No other launcher is available" as in "won't let the user install and use any other launcher"? Are you serious? I haven't installed any of the unofficial roms because I didn't want to void my warranty, but this really is a dealbreaker for me, I hate the Sense launcher.

I just don't understand why wouldn't they let us use another launcher.
[Legend General] sjaak1234:
Easy, They use Sense to try and make them stand out from other phones. So for HTC sense is a big part of the whole HTC experience. Compare it to buying a Ferrari and than asking if they can bolt on a Lamborghine bodywork because you like that better. They would probably tell you to go and buy a Lambo then.
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
more as in "if you want froyo without sense you should check out CM.. if you install adw on the sense rom.. it will look like CM..
[Legend General] v3rm0n:
Isn't this one of the reasons why people buy Android phones instead of iPhone? So you CAN change something if you want to.
[Legend General] NdrU:
Yeah, but as I said, I'd rather not void my warranty.

(plus, I haven't looked into this at all, but I remember someone mentioning problems with wifi on CM)
[Legend General] ve.:
I think he just means you wont have access to the stock android ui. You can still install third party launchers.

TBH though, if you don't like sense, don't buy HTC. :P

I personally think Sense is awesome, every time I try using a different launcher, it just doesn't do it for me.

P.S. Still no Froyo on Voda AU (F/W 2.02.178.3). :(
[Legend General] NdrU:
I'm sorry, but that's like saying "if you don't like Internet Explorer, don't buy Windows"

I was talking about that one particular piece of software I don't like in this phone, the Sense homescreen. I love pretty much everthing else about it.

And I could install adw on 2.1, so I hope this is just a misunderstanding and I will be able to keep it after the update.
[Legend General] raf2k:
Hmm for me its obvious that HTC = Sense. It was one of the main reason why I bought HTC phone.

Btw. IE is not longer pre installed in Windows. During Windows installation you can choose other web browsers :cool:
[Legend General] eepunk:
In Europe.

There is also a large chunk of this planet that does not reside in Europe.

E.E.
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Yeah.. But don't worry.. Europe will invade them soon so we all will be Europe ;)
[Legend General] jorgesalvador:
It's easier to jailbreak and change whatever you want on an iPhone than root the HTC Legend.

Personally, I'm on a different BOOTLOADER so I can't downgrade, so I can't root.

If you really really want that, you don't buy ANY Android phone, you need to buy a vanilla Android phone, ideally the current Dev Phone.

If you buy a branded or manufacturer customized Android device, you are equally or more screwed than if you buy an iPhone.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
At least Apple updates it's phones....
[Legend General] jennan88:
Yeah, but we're talking about differences of customisation for power users.

When I had a jailbroken iPhone, it was much easier to change the hacky, behind the scenes stuff, but no matter what theme you applied it still looked essentially like the iPhone.

Android is much more customisable from a UI and themeing perspective. The fact that you can install different launchers if you don't like the default is a huge feather in Android's cap for me.
[Legend General] dannsf:
What you just said makes sense to me, but I still think it's pointless of them on blocking it... :/
[Legend General] lessirey:
They didn't block it !

You can install as much third party launchers as you wish. Its just that the vanilla froyo launcher is not present as installed any more.

While it was there in the eclair version.
[Legend General] ogo2:
The wait is over, i just got my phone rooted! :)

I bet i will get Gingerbread befor the ****** FroYo WWE update.
[Legend General] Sckank:
If anyone care to port it to Legend that is :-)
[Legend General] vanzelvoul:
"A few days" I still laugh my ASS of!
[Legend General] dannsf:
Just wondering... does rooting your phone void your warranty? Coz I read somewhere that it would void your warranty IF you handed your rooted phone to them (in case you needed it to get repaired)... and I can't help but wonder "Can't they tell whether a phone has been rooted and then UNrooted before they handed it in?"
[Legend General] skojaren:
htc censor
[Legend General] Tracebustabustabusta:
Nice one "skojaren/joker", you live up to your name and post count ;)

No update in Sweden here.
[Legend General] zabaknilesh:
Still no update in india :(
[Legend General] JeryP:
Haha, yet no updates Froyo for CZ
[Legend General] gallery:
Please post your version number after the update
[Legend General] Timothye:
@Skojaren ..

no update here on my mobil in sweden
[Legend General] Chaotick:
YOU ALL NOT GONNA BELIEVE THIS!!!! No update in Poland.....Pretty cold though... :)

Don't know if any one noticed that the shipment of new phones as Desire Z /HD and numerous WP7 devices is quiet ....sluggish....Or is it just in Poland????
[Legend General] troupierLEON:
nothing in Germany either....
[Legend General] JAM6359:
Noting in belgium waiting for sinter klaas i belive
[Legend General] iodine:
Hopefully on Dec 6 (Monday) if not, i'm going unofficial
[Legend General] JAM6359:
In belgium sinter klaas is the 6 of december still tree days to go
[Legend General] krasenk:
Two months ago someone here mentioned that the Froyo update for Legend will be available about Christmas. I did not believe then it is possible! We expected Froyo at the end of September and will get it in December. How far will HTC go with that bad directed parody...
[Legend General] Timothye:
this is a JOKE .. my mobile has 6.35MB of memory . i have been uninstalling apps like mad to free it up a bit . running slow ,and apps to SD i could use asap .

also turning my mobile into a hotspot .

2 functions i could really use about 3 months ago . WTF is with HTC and updates ?

I am at the END of my rope with this company !

The next mobile i get will NOT be an HTC .
[Legend General] Greedybro:
Still nothing in France...

I really wonder if there some kind of deal between HTC and Vodafone... Cause it's just crazy that they had not released it yet for unbranded legend, it's obviously finished ! As far as I know, Vodafone could not work on an unfinished ROM !

Got some hope every weeks for the following Monday since Vodafone (sfr in France) updated branded legend. That's not really fair from the constructor, even if it's just a money deal with Vodafone so they can have an exclusivity.

The android world would have been impressed if both VF and HTC had updated the same day, no need to depreciate customers who paid more for their phone.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
Got a oportunity to use HD7 today...iT's owner has it over a month now. Im not exactly sure how long I used but I fell in love with it. As it was running WM7 microsoft was responsible for the updates of software and here my first suprise....HD7 had 2 of them within the first month....Hoever the screen on HD 7 is crap at presenting colors...
[Legend General] ogo2:
I don't care at all :)
[Legend General] nutunited:
But can you live without USB mass storage mode, bluetooth file transfers, custom ringtones, multitasking, copy/paste, divx/xvid support, file manager, USB internet tethering, etc. ?

Yeah, it might look and feel nice - but until it can do all the things android can I have to give it a miss. All of these things are dealbreakers for me... Also 3rd party apps are currently limited.

So I would certainly wait for the OS to mature to the point where it has the majority of these features before even considering it! Don't follow your heart just yet on this one dude, you may regret it :) give it maybe a year and WP7 might be getting up there, but for the moment it can't compete with Android for functionality. Unless of course those things don't bother you, in which case go right ahead!

I actually wish Google was stricter with its software policy - and didn't allow customization. That way everyone would get updates straight from Google! Maybe HTC could offer/install sense as an extra app? Not sure if it's even possible, but it would solve all this updating chaos! Biggest mistake Google made with Android was allowing manufacturer/carrier customization imo. I love sense, but would prefer quick updates tbh.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
I know about all these issues and there is no evidance of MS fixing it right now....However...

The WP7 is a somewhat new approach towards the windows operating system on any mobile... if there will not be any updates witin lets end of january + then I will reconsider my view regarding WP7 devices and MS policy on updates.

Cheers ( as i am having a drink or several) :)

ogo2=> HTC does not seem too about the update etc. :)

nutunited=> I know that you are right though i don't miss USB internet tethering becasue i never used it ....Updates for WP7 "ARE SAID"to be coming till the end of january....Let see how serious MS is....I'm not selling my legend just jet :)
[Legend General] raf2k:
WP7 is so much different from Android OS. Non customizable GUI is the biggest disadvantage. In my opinion, you should wait for Nexus S or other device with vanilla Android.
[Legend General] ananthm2k5:
You can't swap or change SD cards with wp7 .
[Legend General] Chaotick:
ananthm2k5 => Since got my Legend i don't really regreted having more than 2GB of memory....Looks like over the 6 months in of having Legend I didn't really need more than 2 GB.

I'm looking foward to see what will come out witnin the next few months on either android or WP7 front.And as my friend owns HD7 and is a bit of cell phone maniac i will know first hand if he has the Microsoft promised updates and if he is pleased with his device ( because now he is less than objective ).
[Legend General] shady220671:
typical reply from HTC middle east

Another typical reply from HTC middle east :

Kindly informed that we donot have a specific time of the OS update for HTC Legend till now and we hope it will release soon to satisfy your needs .

I think I will wait much longer than u guys
[Legend General] Chaotick:
Not to be too pesimistic but i don't think will ever recieve this update....because end of the world will be sooner :D.
[Legend General] BlaY0:
That surely is a bad factor. Two updates in a single month!!! That just indicates that WM 7 is a lousy and buggy OS. Would you be satisfied if your car factory is calling you for an repair/update of their faults every single month?

Sent from my HTC Legend
[Legend General] Chaotick:
BlaY0 => I'd say it's a good thing because the updates ARE coming and FIXING. I think you are confusing diffrent things....these kind of faults which require the manufacturer to step in are kind of critical and these updates where connected with languages as i recall.

You are all forgeting the fact that this is a new operating mobile OS with it's setbacks and it seems to me like a good path for my possible phone change.

EDIT: The so called update was for some sort 3rd party app on WP7...no the OS itself...Sorry, I stand corrected...Mea culpa :)
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Hmm.. Discussion of WP7? Isn't it getting a little off topic? ;)

Back on track.. No update in Denmark yet..
[Legend General] netdias:
Just a little, but its good while we all wait and wait and wait...:rolleyes:
[Legend General] Chaotick:
SLIGHT offtopic I admit .....however ...back on track....No update in Poland...
[Legend General] BlaY0:
If it needs fixing it is broken!

Why in the first place they release software that is so buggy/broken that it needs two updates per month? Because they are lousy system architects and lousy programmers!

And perception that if it doesn't have updates it is not good is false! It is the other way around m8! Software that doesn't need updates is actually perfect. So the less updates software gets the more it limits to a perfection. And this is common sense m8! But Micro$oft got into your brainless heads forcing you to think that it is actually good to have several updates every day or so and that it is perflectly normal to write lousy/buggy code.

Bah... I resent such mindless ideas :rolleyes:
[Legend General] BlaY0:
There's actually no need for waiting and writing to this thread that there's still no news. You have OTA checker... if you guys are so anxious, make a schedule script that checks for OTA every several hours and SMS you if there's an update waiting for you.
[Legend General] tigerbauch:
They have to fix the init bug, so it's no problem for me to wait for the update.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
BlaY0 => The term "perfection" is a bit tricky because as an old saying goes "beauty is in the eye of beholder" ;). I understand your statement that the less is needed to any sort of thing to work correctly - OS in this case - the more complete the experiance becomes and the feel of the thing is more solid. However without faults there wouldn't be much in the area of evolution would it?? If everything would be perfect in the beginning that would be kind off dull :).
[Legend General] BlaY0:
Yeah, but if Micro$oft operates your remaining good eye, there's not much to behold ;)

You're right, potential diversity is positive side of errors being made, that's why I haven't stated that anything is perfect, but we tend to aim to perfection either way. Thus releasing software (Micro$oft) that is less than oposit of perfect doesn't show this tendency but instead they try to cloud your mind with a fact that either way you are better with two or more updates per day. They even had to "invent" automatic updating insted of distributing their resources somewhere else that would be more productive.

You have to admit that updating because of updating is plain and simple waste of time and they try to force us to waste more time using their products, that's the whole point of it...
[Legend General] Timothye:
just received another email from HTC support .

we are rolling out 2.2 all over Europe. It will be available

in Sweden shortly.

OK , again . WTF DOES SHORTLY MEAN ?

/T

Sweden = nothing yet :/
[Legend General] Chaotick:
BlaY0 => If too much updates is for no apparent reason required than I agreed. :).

No update yet in Poland....Don't really care right now as I am apporoaching DRUNK MODE/PARTY MODE :D.
[Legend General] Greedybro:
I think they mean "Monday"... or... "SFTU your phone will tell ya !"

But that is not nice, not at all :P
[Legend General] ogo2:
What is that "init" bug? I am usind Modaco's Custom Froyo ROM based on the last Vodafon update and everything works fine on my Legend.
[Legend General] tigerbauch:
Some users have a freeze when they press menu and back button together.debugging more is the solution....
[Legend General] BlaY0:
Guys, that's not a bug! That's a feature! Pressing menu and back simultaneously triggers service called bugreport that runs dumpstate tool which makes a report that can be found under /sdcard/bugreports or something like that. While doing this, your phone is unresponsive for several seconds.

This behaviour can be stopped by commenting out bugreport service from init.legend.rc...
[Legend General] tigerbauch:
Where can this be stopped? Say it again for noobs please
[Legend General] BlaY0:
I have just told you. Read my last sentence!

Your phone needs to be rooted and it is not for noobs... so ask your favourite ROM brewer to disable this behaviour...

Just a note to noobs... Don't press menu and back buttons simultaneously and you'll be fine :D
[Legend General] AllWin:
Something tells me, that you're one of those lovely cheaters in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 :D
[Legend General] justcookiesncream:
Our phones are also in need of fixing and it's not even done yet;_; , besides It's really funny seeing how legend users can offer critics about W7 phones while at the same time using a phone with bugs;D
[Legend General] johnkor:
Do u think it will release today ?
[Legend General] justcookiesncream:
Nah , doubt so
[Legend General] JAM6359:
Monday
[Legend General] tigerbauch:
so, then it is a bug. Definitely
[Legend General] BlaY0:
My Legend doesn't need to be fixed. It may have some bugs but they surely don't affect my day to day use of it. Are you sure that your phone is HTC Legend?

Sent from my HTC Legend
[Legend General] BlaY0:
Nope, but your mind is buggy coz it can't coordinate your fingers to make a single button press. Get a phone with bigger buttons... like one that your grandma would use!

Sent from my HTC Legend
[Legend General] tigerbauch:
I've no froyo and no problems with pressing buttons the right way. But there are a lot of people with froyo hitting both buttons. It is a bug, you must be ignorant if you don't get it.
[Legend General] acid74:
@ Blayo

I se no reason why moderators should allow you mock people...HTC Legend has bugs.
[Legend General] ananthm2k5:
Ever use sms ?

Before you ask again yes my phone is a HTC legend. And before you suggest I use handcent let me remind you a phone that can't send an sms is worse than an half baked operating system(wp7) which can.
[Legend General] NdrU:
No, it's not a bug. You are _NOT_ supposed to hit both buttons at the same time. It's your own problem that you can't operate your device properly.

Saying it's a bug is like saying ctrl+alt+delete on Windows is a bug, because if you "accidentally" press it, the system will reboot (yes, I am aware that this combination no longer reboots the system immediately, although I'm not exactly sure what it does now, haven't used windows for quite a while, but the point stands)

Is the bug you are referring to the one where the newest sms is on the bottom and you have to scroll all the way down to read it? While I agree it's _very_ annoying (well it was annoying for the five minutes before I installed handcent), I can't see how it prevents you from _sending_ sms...
[Legend General] BlaY0:
I don't know what have you been doing with your phone (maybe too much retries for updating) but mine is doing just fine as far as sms/mms and everything else is concerned.

Sent from my HTC Legend
[Legend General] nutunited:
There are some buggy official ROMS, there is little doubt about that. SMS bug, wifi is also an issue for many people...

In fact HTC pulled the official unbranded 2.05 update before too many people had it because of the sms bug - they should have released a patch for that immediately imo.

Swyped from my HTC Legend
[Legend General] tigerbauch:
you're ignorant too? ctrl+alt+delete are not beneath each other.I am operating the right way, so if this is a feature, it's a pretty stupid one.
[Legend General] gr1pp5:
I only want this awful WiFi fixed. After 2 iphones and this htc, I think I'm going to go back to nokia! Just awaiting the E7 to be released!
[Legend General] entropicamente:
In this forum there are sections dedicated to Windows Phone 7, why don't you praise it there?

This thread is only for people whining for the update.. :p
[Legend General] troupierLEON:
I realized a couple of weeks ago that a study trip to Namibia saved me from the SMS bug :). I disabled the data connection (roaming fees and stuff) and when I came back all Legend were "updated" and the update was pulled. Lucky me!

So now back to Froyo...
[Legend General] Greedybro:
Well... Never played that game dude ! I'm a console player, and not a FPS one at all. Plus, i'm not a cheater.

Why are you thinking such a think, cause I say STFU ?

EDIT : By the way sorry for being off topic, but I can't stand being called a cheater and say nothing ^^
[Legend General] AllWin:
I was kidding mate, relax ;) And yes, "STFU" was the reason of that joke.
[Legend General] coldfurify:
5th of December, still no update ... pleaaase let it be released today :D
[Legend General] HpX:
I dont think they release any update on sunday :p Maybe tomorrow ;)
[Legend General] asyyy:
In all honesty I have never touched those 2 buttons simultaneously by accident ever! Maybe I have small thumbs
[Legend General] netdias:
More tigerbauch white noise... Behave and be nice to the others.

:cool:
[Legend General] NdrU:
Well, I guess you two will be called ignorant as well ;)
[Legend General] lessirey:
Wonder what markmoons got to say about the update now !

Is it sinterklass already ?
[Legend General] JAM6359:
Mark moons sait on Twitter sinterklaas brings frozen yoghurt today
[Legend General] victorcwy:
No update here as well. I wonder what the next excuse they come out with?
[Legend General] ananthm2k5:
Really ? The last tweet from him is dated Dec 2. When did he say this ?
[Legend General] nomad4ever:
The headline should be like this: "Douchebag Mark Moons caught in yet another lie".

:-(

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[Legend General] tigerbauch:
It's not chocolate when I put sugar on a piece of sh...... If course I can say the taste is a bit better than before. :) I'm looking forward to froyo, but please remove that stupid "feature".
[Legend General] karkalanand:
6Dec, No update in India
[Legend General] whitetigerdk:
Nice.. FROzen YOghurt..
[Legend General] JAM6359:
Sinterklaas (thé référence of Mr moons ) is coming in the night of 5 and 6 dec so whe wel het it this night

Ps sorry for n'y bat english
[Legend General] prabhu_mohan:
No Froyo yet. India
[Legend General] neverg:
I'm confident it will be released tomorrow! Hope so at least, if not... well, maybe for christmas! :p
[Legend General] DJClean:
Mark moons is alive again...

Translation:

And then:

Translation:
[Legend General] shuikit:
Well, the last update had a couple of big bugs, enough for them to pull the update. I dread to think what problems they've found which is stopping them from releasing this update..
[Legend General] gallery:
I am sure we get froyo on or before 31 dec 2010
[Legend General] tnakir:
****in HTC sucks. I hope their programmers responsable for this get fired, as well as that jackass markmoons.
[Legend General] Chaotick:
I'm not suprised that they did not launch it yet...It seems they are waiting for the software to evolve form 2.1 to 2.2 on it's own :D.

I personaly hate the approach of Mr Moons who throws some random terms "coming soon" or "in a few days" deluding and delaying...As far as I am concerned the update is completed and working on VODAFONE ( would it be corrupted It wouldn't be released I imagine). And all of a sudden there is a big fuss to push to the unbranded devices...The misterious bugs which are present now and were not presed in vodafone release....Interesting....
[Legend General] seereek:
i have a question. why can't we get avi files support with FroYo ? Does Gingerbread have this ? It's even gonna be suported with coming versions of android ?
[Legend General] raf2k:
Just download RockPlayer Base from the Android Market.