yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
Interesting. It does make sense initially that your sim card would have nothing to do with the update process.

I do question one thing - Foci cannot be the plural of Focus since it is a proper noun and not the point of a ray of light ;)

Does anyone know what exactly went wrong with the Samsung Omnia 7? Why exactly did it hiccup on the pre-update?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
Considering it's the 20th of March we don't have much time left in the "second half of March".
[Windows Phone 7 General] andrew-in-woking:
Hi all

I think that some users are reporting that they received the update by "de-branding" their devices by flashing a generic ROM rather than the stock branded ROM. For example, users with an Orange UK branded HTC 7 Mozart found that they could update the device after flashing the generic HTC Europe ROM for their device.

That being the case the branding is coded into the ROM but not the hardware itself (e.g. Through the IMEI).

Cheers

andrew-in-woking
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonshines:
i sure hope so that the NoDo update will be in circulation by tomorrow. i hope this time no one would block this needed update.

there are also rumors that ie9 for wp7 will be out earlier than the much awaited mango update. i think ms should be speeding up the update process. but all of these gets my hyped :D

thanks again Tim
[Windows Phone 7 General] gastrella:
no update also today :( i read tomorrow can be the day ....
[Windows Phone 7 General] Thresher:
I took a sample of the 14 most recent Xbox updates, simplifying and figuring that MS avoided Thursday and Friday updates for many reasons.

14 updates:

1 on Monday

4 on Tuesday

5 on Wednesday

2 on Thursday

1 on Friday

(*the Thursday and Friday updates were for future updates and a new controller update)

So is it confirmed that an OEM like Samsung has had the ability to test or work with the MS update, or are we still waiting for that to occur?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
https://twitter.com/#!/tomwarren/status/49906419935354881
[Windows Phone 7 General] moonshines:
any tmobile branded devices already received the update? thanks
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
Not to be a jerk, but don't you think if anyone got the update, that the forums would be exploding right now?
[Windows Phone 7 General] mroberti:
update listed

The update just is listed on the website now:

www microsoft com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/update-history.aspx
[Windows Phone 7 General] mroberti:
March 2011

OS version: 7.0.7390.0

Copy & paste. You asked for it—now it's here. Just tap a word and drag the arrows to copy and paste it on your phone. You can copy text from emails, text messages, web pages, and Office Mobile documents, and paste it anywhere you can type. To learn more, see Copy & paste.

Faster apps and games. Nobody likes to wait. That's why we've whittled down the time it takes for apps and games to start up and resume. It's all part of our focus on getting you to the things you love, easier and faster.

Better Marketplace search. We've streamlined Marketplace search to make it easier to find specific apps, games, or music. Press the Search button in the Apps or Games section of Marketplace and you'll see only apps or games in the results. Press Search in the Music section of Marketplace to search just the music catalog.

Other Marketplace improvements. We've improved the stability of Marketplace while you download apps. We've also improved the experience of downloading apps larger than 20 megabytes, upgrading from trial apps to paid apps, using a credit card with an address outside the United States, sharing links to apps via email, sorting Xbox LIVE games by release date, and creating an Xbox LIVE account from within the Games Hub.

Wi-Fi improvements. We now display your phone's Media Access Control (MAC) address in Settings. (You might need this info if you try to connect to a Wi-Fi network that uses MAC address filtering. To learn more, see Connect to a Wi-Fi network.) We've also removed the limit on the number of Wi-Fi profiles that you can store and reduced the time it takes to start your phone if you've stored lots of Wi-Fi profiles.

Outlook improvements. We've improved the experience of viewing iPhone photo attachments you receive from a non-Exchange-based email account (such as a Google Mail, Hotmail, or Yahoo! Mail account), using the Global Address List (GAL) when connecting to Exchange Server 2003 using Exchange ActiveSync, and working with email display names that contain brackets (for example, "David Alexander [Contoso]").

Messaging improvements. We've improved the experience of receiving Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS) messages if your phone uses a PIN-locked SIM.

Facebook integration. We've improved the experience of syncing Facebook accounts.

Camera improvements. We've improved the stability of switching between camera and video modes.

Audio improvements. We've improved the experience of using a Bluetooth headset to make calls when you're playing music or videos.

Other performance improvements. This month's update also includes software from several phone manufacturers that improves the performance of specific models. Naturally, if you don't have one of the affected models, we won't install this portion of the update on your phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
Between that, an odd silence on twitter from guys like Brandon Watson and other windows phone guys plus this post:

https://twitter.com/#!/mrcarter8/status/50218329775935490

Makes me think we may be getting close.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nok_fusion:
nodo update is come out now => http://www.winrumors.com/windows-phone-7-nodo-update-now-available/

the list of all the Nodo contains : http://translate.google.fr/translat...ormations-sur-nodo-reunies-t2498.html&act=url

microsoft make us a surprise :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] andrew-in-woking:
Hi all

I have flashed a "NoDo" ROM to my Orange UK HTC 7 Mozart and it is showing version 7.0.7389.0 in the About page in settings. It is however displaying the MAC address.

Cheers

andrew-in-woking
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
[Editted] I love to see all the bug fixes bug fixes. I am hoping we get a few more features crossed off the missing feature list.

I wonder which phones got the performance upgrade?
[Windows Phone 7 General] RobReks:
Sooo? CAN WE SEND VIDEOS YET??!?!?!?!?!?!??will the update allow that?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Crimson Lotus:
what are you, 12 years old? If not, I feel sorry for you. I can only wish people like you would stay away from WP7 forums.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TOA Duck:
Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. LOL
[Windows Phone 7 General] elkcloner:
thanks

thanks for
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
Here is AT&T's response my email inquiry which is more frustrating than anything but not a surprise.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TOA Duck:
just got a tweet.....

http://windowsphone7central.com/articles/carriers_rolling_out_nodo_in_april-03-23-11
[Windows Phone 7 General] mdsharpe:
streaming audio

Probably for me the #1 missing feature is the shocking lack of support for streaming audio (i.e. internet radio) in both Zune and WinPhone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TeNsTrKe15:
iheartradio app for wp7 is great! use it daily!
[Windows Phone 7 General] steve10:
This is an excellent step toward the kind of transparency I think most of us want. Unfortunately, I must wonder: why are US carriers notably missing?
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
The US carriers are on a separate page.
[Windows Phone 7 General] steve10:
I see now... This is quite impressive. Of course, leave it to AT&T to still be holding back both updates. At least T-Mobile passed them and customers will now just be waiting another week or two.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
I noticed that after I posted and was going back to fix my link. Anyway this obviously shows that AT&T is dragging ass. Not too happy with that but at least we have more information now. T-Mobile people should be happy soon at least. Within 10 days they said once it hits scheduling status. :o
[Windows Phone 7 General] JuWa:
This doesn't help anything. Showing only "Open market phones	Delivering update	Delivering update"... But when, when, WHEN? It's the second day starting already...
[Windows Phone 7 General] mdsharpe:
Messy

Looks good if it suits your needs, but I don't like the idea of having to use an app.

I'd like the ability to listen to any stream, by URL.

Really it's just one of many examples of how computing is taking steps backwards as we move into these closed walled gardens, ceding control to these device manufacturers. Being able to tap a URL into the device's inbuilt media player and just play it seems like obvious functionality to me.

Being a .NET developer if I wanted I could write my own app to achieve this but I shouldn't have to. Using Zune for podcasts, mp3s and videos and then having to switch to another application to play streams is messy and stupid.
[Windows Phone 7 General] bassam:
The new schedule wp7 update

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-schedule-world.aspx

good luck
[Windows Phone 7 General] lodz35:
Thanks bassam !
[Windows Phone 7 General] weijoon:
FYI, Malaysia's HD7 open market user already updated with 7390 build.

There is also news that Maxis (One of the Malaysia's Carrier) bundled HD7 can get the 7390 update by applying the registry hack to remove carrier.

Refer here & here

While 7 Mozart open market user still on the wait...(at least for me)

Good news is,

there is someone say that his 7 mozart already updated to 7390,

this morning 8:35am (GMT +8)

Refer Here
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Just wanted to quote the same thing here.

His statements also confirm they have a serious struggle and what is more important:

Today's customers are not silly lambs anymore, they're much more aware than some time ago.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hamzie:
ah useful link bassam
[Windows Phone 7 General] Niiceg:
I'm starting to hate all WP7 owners. What is with you? I had Android, their updates are much, much worse than WP7. When WP7 update hits, it's being rolled out in waves and according to MS it won't take a year. Well, on Android you will NEVER know if you WILL get and update. Stop hating and just hope for the best
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
So because the android update process is the worst thing ever we shouldn't complain when the Windows Phone update process goes wrong? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. When you make promises and don't deliver people are going to be upset and rightfully so. If you can't understand that, well that's your problem not mine.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
I do not think that is the message niiceg is trying to convey Tim. I have said the same exact thing earlier:

Android ecosystem: Updates every 5 to 7 months. You have no idea if your phone will get it.

iOS ecosystem: Regular updates that follow no specific cycle. You have a heads up about most of the details but have no idea when it will go live.

Windows Phone (based on little data): Planned updates every 5 months. You have no idea through official sources when or what but every device will be updated.

Now which system do you prefer? Getting an update late, or never? Sure, there is always the unofficial route but that is the hard work of the community making up for the shortfall of the handset makers.

So on one hand complaints are sometimes heard and make the software better. But sometimes people go too far.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TOA Duck:
yes, and in this case people are going too far. I want the update as much as the next guy, but to act like some of these people are acting....rediculous.

We live in a society where we have gotten used to instant gratification......"everything NOW"

Chill out people
[Windows Phone 7 General] awblade:
unfortunatly we are also in a time when developers seem to see it as being ok to put things on shelves when they are not working properly. This post is more aimed at video game developers, but applies here
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
The update status page has been updated for the US and International carriers. It seems that AT&T's testing is scheduled to be finished in early April.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
I still have no update. 2nd of April. Unlocked LG E900. Nice.
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
Have you tried this method?
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
20 times. Null. My Laptop is currently on cable, not WiFi.

Crazy to do it anyway, isn't it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
Yeah, you shouldn't have to do it. Hope future updates aren't like this. Having said that, if they can all be forced to download using that method, then I don't see any problems :D

I'm on a cable as well, but it still works. I turned off wifi + data on the phone, then a few seconds after clicking 'update' in Zune, I unplugged the network cable. Took a couple tries, but it worked.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Titus_Andronicus:
I have the same phone, but not unlocked. Both myne and my wifes worked right away. Maybe you did something wrong?...
[Windows Phone 7 General] hanrage:
BT connections

imo it is important to get "old" Bluetooth functions as in WM6.5 back to WP7. I was dreaming of GPS and Heart Rate Connection on phone but no Polar equipment available. Now it is available and i can´t use because of locked or unfinished Phone OS :-(
[Windows Phone 7 General] JamesAllen:
Locked?????

You were able to update an locked phone?????? And not through the carrier push process???? Let us know how you did that.:eek:
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
Seems this method works on locked and unlocked phones, as long as the carrier is in 'delivering update' stage.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Avandor:
Have ya tried this ?

Mate of mine got it working with this method also, and he's wired.

G'luck.
[Windows Phone 7 General] bdotr:
Coming from webOS most of those features are sorely missed. But by year's end, most of those features (namely multi-tasking!) will be added. And I'm used to waiting being a webOS user and developer for nearly 2 years.

One thing I hope they fix is the notifications. I don't like having to use the volume key to have to change my music. And the text notifications could use some work too, maybe take a page from webOS? :P
[Windows Phone 7 General] rmcgraw:
How many people actually think Mango will be out in 2011?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Omega Ra:
I do, but late 2011, and we AT&T customers may not get it right away lol.
[Windows Phone 7 General] keyboardP:
They've shown some of it working and although I'm sure it's a very early demo, it seems pretty on track for a 2011 release. Hopefully the MIX event next week will reveal a bit more concrete info.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doejohn531:
Has anyone heard anything about being able to create playlists from the phone? I can't believe this is missing. I could do this on just about every MP3 player I've owned.
[Windows Phone 7 General] thongmobile:
no idea. but Articles useful
[Windows Phone 7 General] tjhart85:
Microsoft specifically took control of the update process rather than relying completely on the carriers because of the mess with Android (which Google is actually trying to fix).

I had to wait a long time to get froyo on my Vibrant, but that was all Samsungs fault. I knew that. I couldn't blame Google because Google was already well beyond froyo and was well into Gingerbread. That's what made it frustrating. The update was already done! I was just waiting for Samsung to put it in their ROM and ship it out!

A LOT of people bought WP7 phones BECAUSE they wanted timely updates and the liked knowing that M$ had a mechanism in place that meant it didn't matter what carrier/phone you had, you would get the update and it would be compatible and "just work". People have a right to be upset when they weren't given what they were basically promised (and I'm not even talking about the specific updates here, just the ability for timely updates). Instead of getting this awesome update process that was supposed to be double rainbows for all, they basically get the exact same situation as Android is in.

Besides living in a world of instant gratification "now", we also live in a time where if you're unhappy with a product, you can let thousands of people know immediately (rather than merely telling people face to face or via a phone/email).

This is also M$'s chance to get back in the game and if they continue to screw it up, a lot of people will jump ship. It's really in their best interest to actually make an upgrade every 5 months (as they timelined it) and still release hotfixes often to solve other issues. This is what would set them apart from Android.

The UI is a matter of preference, but everyone likes seeing bugs fixed and features added.

I don't even have or want WP7 but I want it to succeed. The market needs the competition in order to continue growing. If you want more features added to your WP7, you need there to be competition. Without competition, theres no reason to innovate and I definitely want Android to continue growing.

Apple, Google and Microsoft need each other in this game in order to continue and play the long game.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DinarQ8:
thanksssss
[Windows Phone 7 General] nizzon:
- Options for Snooze-time on Appointment-reminders!

- Shuffle option for albums and playlists in Zune

(Seriously MS? How can these features be missing in the first place, kinda basic stuff?)

Snooze is driving me crazy right now, its either "dismiss" or get reminders every other minute.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
Updated the original post with Mango details. Two good resources for all the Mix 2011 news:

Engadget

ReadWriteWeb

Over 1500 APIs! That is a big number!
[Windows Phone 7 General] digger1985:
The market has decided no one wants PPCs. Too many features confuses users.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gkoonjul:
don't forget Turn by turn navigation. That's a big and attractive features I'm waiting for.
[Windows Phone 7 General] noelito:
i want my pocket pc! i just want more functionality and more control!
[Windows Phone 7 General] tfouto:
hi,

thanks for adding the links... the Bugs & Features link is wrong... it should link to:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7?page=1&tab=all
[Windows Phone 7 General] the-hq:
My additions based on watching several MIX keynotes and reading some sites like wmpoweruser and winrumors (I hope someone can verify those)+

Also gyroscope support was announced which will add a bunch of augmented reality apps and possibly advanced motion support for Turn-by-turn navigations.

See some stuff at http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Wind...ncements--Demos-from-MIX-11-with-Joe-Belfiore
[Windows Phone 7 General] Omega Ra:
then sadly, get an android, the overall masses don't want a pocket pc.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gkoonjul:
The masses don't want a brick phone either that just does calling and a few tricks. We want a competitive device to android and iphone to the tune of anything you can do i can do better...

Sure it'll take time but it just sucks being the last out of the pack and each update taking almost half a year to get distributed. i'm willing to wait though
[Windows Phone 7 General] jabtano:
The problem really is this. WP7 is new and growing if you want something that has more then buy Android or Ios. But if you want to ride the wave of where mobil is going then get a WP7 device. Fact is the next few updates from MS are going to be major updates that will be adressing many of the issues that people are *****ing about. Then there are the crazy games that the carriers play to hold things up.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tim.Smith:
This is one of the dumbest things I've read on this board. Windows Phone does more than "calling and a few tricks". If you're that miserable go use another phone. That's the beauty of the market, you have options. Unless you're one of those people that just like to complain and are never happy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
The average person wants nice looking products that are reliable and work.

So if the average person uses his/her smartphone to make calls, surf the net, check emails, install games and messaging apps then the nicest looking, most reliable phone that does that best (and is well marketed) will sell the most.

The updates will add enough features that will make Windows Phone enough for the average user and almost good enough for the Android user ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] lay_forat:
+1 but how long wait.....
[Windows Phone 7 General] lay_forat:
one of the dumbest things to believe the so called Mango update will bring the wp7 to the top of ios and android first of all MS should stop copying the evil part of Apple and why they call it windows phone 7 it should be called metro phone beta 0.001

what is the windows part wp7 contains ? just to make people fool they think of its like windows 7

i've got HD7 hardware is pretty cool but metro phone beta really sux
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
You are entitled to your opinion but you seem to have lost any objectivity. It is pretty obvious that even after Mango, Windows Phone will not have all the capabilities of Android or even iOS. But calling Windows Phone Beta 0.0001...

After Mango it will be good enough for the average consumer. And once your product can sell to the average consumer (who does not visit this board) then you can sell to the world. Android and iOS were once there too. Pity so many forgot their struggles. Pity so many people bought into it long after their struggles and rag on new OSes.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DeathLamp:
Well it's dumber to buy a new phone without informing. Maybe you should try testing a phone before buying it ;)

So and now I propose that you sell your wp7 and buy an android or an iphone ;)

Oh and it's called Windows Phone, because it's based on Windows CE.

Sincerly,

DeathLamp
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Interesting: http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/mango-to-be-known-as-windows-phone-75
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
well, i guess the cool android-esque naming schemes are done then ?

tech sites are generally wrong quite a bit. even when quoting folk. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
I think only technical people are even aware of these code names. I also do think they are more in the public's eye than before. Whatever the truth is about Windows Phone 7.x I am glad I had the foresight to name this thread "Windows Phone Future Updates" :D

To be honest, I did prefer saying WinMo. What OS is that on your HTC Touch Pro? WinMo! WinPhone, Windows Phone, Phone 7, and Windows Phone 7 just do not sound as catchy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tfouto:
Super-Hardware

Does wp7 really want to remain real old against Android on Hardware?

http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...-cpu-and-gpu-chipsets-coming-later-this-year/
[Windows Phone 7 General] berto22:
Mango update

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/swiss_academic_team/archive/2011/04/19/windows-phone-7-mango-update.aspx
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
But also

http://wmpoweruser.com/mango-upgrad...r-of-languages-supported-on-existing-devices/

Not good news at all. And quite unfair IMO.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tone_:
It's a rumour.
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
I was under the impression that the included languages were under the control of the device manufacturer (or carrier). There are phones out now that don't support every language that the OS supports.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
Exactly, and it's been stated from the very beginning.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Apparently all the devices support the same number of languages without any variations.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
My Mozart has only German and UK English.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
I guess it is all done to cut costs but it would be nice if they provided language packs so that you could download additional languages if needed. I fully understand that there is little point on putting Chinese on a phone bound for the US, but offer a download.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Riku98523:
Great!!!! .