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[myTouch 4G General] JWhipple:
That's the beauty of buying an HTC product - they actually do work out issues.

This phone though, right out of the box it does everything I wanted it to and does it WELL.

I had a Vibrant, got rid of it for a Nexus One (which was a great phone - but this one was better!) - I was tired of the GPS issues and the lack of support, and then what little support they did give had galacticly POOR QA on it.
[myTouch 4G General] floepie:
Although added software on the phone can't help with the overall speed of the phone, I really doubt the minimal bloatware has any effect on the speed of the UI as you put it. The effect of the bloatware on a stock ROM like this with all its underlying processes shouldn't amount to much at all, as evidenced by how fast apps can open and the general speed of the I/O. I think rather, the ever so slight lag in the UI may be more of a hardware and/or driver issue, as that component does not vary at all. Whether you have just rebooted the phone, deleted system app (bloatware if you will), or at any other time, that screen response and movement never varies. I have just "frozen" every system app I could get away with, and quite frankly, I see no difference in overall speed of the phone. It just flies.
[myTouch 4G General] dinan:
This is what I thought as well. But the thing is, the length of the 'lag' in response to my touch actually differs between applications. When I use launcher pro's launcher, it's very quick, but if I'm in say, the settings of the browser menu, or some of the other "mySense themed" things, it's a lot slower to respond I find. Maybe it's just me, but I'm kind of anal about speed. Still, I'll reserve judgement until I can get a vanilla ROM on and get rid of this mySense thing. I agree, the phone is really snappy, it's just that some apps are a bit slower to pickup my touch input than others.
[myTouch 4G General] hospo:
Thanks for your replies :)

I may just get the MT4G outright and try it out for a few days. See which I like better, then either return the MT or sell the Vibrant. I'm so wishy washy with phones...maybe wishy washy isn't the word so much as fickle. :rolleyes:
[myTouch 4G General] Lakeshow423:
I had a rootes vibrant for 3 weeks and I liked it alot! The vibrant was fast, the screen was great and I was happy with it. I decided to trade it in for the MT4G and never looked back. Trust me when I say this...the Vibrant got nothing on this MT4G. I change phones alot and I think I finally found a phone that satisfies me :D
[myTouch 4G General] hospo:
Oooh, I do like hearing that! :D
[myTouch 4G General] dinan:
I don't know if the vibrant has NOTHING on the mt4g... I'm fairly sure the external speaker was far superior to the MT4G's in terms of quality (bass production) as well as volume. The sound production through headphones was also superior... it seems HTC phones are plagued with mediocre audio quality. That, and the arguably better screen (colors popped more, but text is fuzzier on amoled/samoled screens). But ya, the MT4G's LED flash, working GPS, better feel (objective), more ram, snapdragon (lets face it, samsung doesn't seem to give a **** about optimizing the JIT for hummingbird right now), makes it a winner.
[myTouch 4G General] Picasosz:
I made the Switch to the MT4G the Laggy-ness of the vibrant + horrible Battery Life and the cluster F%^k that is the froyo updating made me pull the trigger the MT4G is wicked fast the text is easier to read than the vibrant and the MT4G doesn't feel cheap like the vibrant, and the crappy GPS on the vibrant was also a killer, Maybe with the nexus 2 sammy will do better. See ya sammy
[myTouch 4G General] clivo360:
As far as audio quality through headphones, the Vibrant uses a DSP chip which enhances sound quality. To me, it was the best sounding phone i've ever heard but I hardly ever listen to music from my phone.

I sold my vibrant for the MT4G and i'm happy I did. It has many more features, is much quicker, has perfect GPS and MUCH better battery life.
[myTouch 4G General] Mftek1:
Vibrant>G2>MT4G

And I'm 100% happy. Im just wishing I would of gotten red.... Lol

Sent from my HTC Glacier
[myTouch 4G General] hospo:
Ok, pretty sure you've all convinced me...I need to make the switch!
[myTouch 4G General] sym1:
If you can bear one more +1, I too had the Vibrant for a month, and had a laundry list of wishes for it. The screen was beautiful, but I don't miss it a tad. The MT4g just has everything I wished for on the Vibrant, plus little extras that I love as I discover them. This is my keeper phone. :D
[myTouch 4G General] hospo:
Thank you! More and more I'm realizing that I should definitely ditch the Vibrant. While the screen is absolutely beautiful, I think that seems to be the only thing (as far as my needs go) that the Vibrant has over the MT. I'm sure in the development world there are many, many other things that the Vibrant has over it, but in my little novice world, I think the MT is more for me.
[myTouch 4G General] OnE ShoT:
I'm sorry I'm not trying to bash on any vibrant owners but I held a vibrant and it felt like a piece of plastic on my hands with a beautiful display that's all. When I got the mt4g from the moment I felt it in my hands u can tell the quality of this phone has with a nice weight to it. The size imo is the perfect size for my hands and I'm coming from an hd2 4.3inch feels too bulky especially when ur out with ur friends at a party and ur trying to get ur phone out to take pics lol trust me I been there. The mt4g not only feels perfect on ur hands but performs flawlessly with no lag no hangs this baby is meant for all kinds of multitasking u can throw at it overall this phone is a beast!
[myTouch 4G General] hospo:
I'm not trying to bash the phone either. I truly wanted to love it. I tried to love it. I even have days that I DO love it. Sadly, they are getting farther and fewer between. I need a phone that's going to perform the way I need it to now, not whenever they feel like getting around to it. It's really too bad, because I think the Vibrant has such huge potential.
[myTouch 4G General] jimmynguyen91:
I have both the Vibrant and the myTouch 4G. I'm currently using the myTouch and I have to say that I am missing my Vibrant. I do like the led light, the flash, the trackpad, front camera, and wifi calling though. What I don't like about the myTouch is that the buttons feel cheap, the screen isn't as great as the SGS, and the speakers sound bad. The Vibrant screen is a lot better because of the super AMOLED. The only downside about the screen is that it drains a lot of battery. I like the Vibrant's interface more and the 16GB internal memory. The GPU on the Vibrant is a great plus and the camera is pretty good. I think froyo is what my Vibrant needs, then I would pick it for sure. I don't have that many things installed on my myTouch yet, but stock applications keep force closing, I don't know if anyone else has that problem. I love how fast the myTouch restarts though, the SGS is kind of slow to start up...
[myTouch 4G General] ryan562:
i have both phones and from using the mt4g the past two weeks, i'm really torn between the two. but it's good to have to seperate lines for work and home :cool:

at any rate, i have found that the vibrant, with root and the right mods/hacks outshines the mt4g in performance. quadrant scores which surpass 3000 are some what proof of that. however, i don't put linpack nor quadrant scores too much on a pedestal because both were designed mainly for testing snapdragon devices.

the vibrant is an incredible device for gaming and video playback. i have tested 3d games and emulators which use tons of memory. my myt4g lags and on almost every psx or snesoidrom that i have using psx or snes emulators v. the vibrant. gameloft games such as sandstorm don't seem to run as smooth either. graphical display on these games look much much better on the vibrant.

out of the box though, the mt4g is plenty fast as i don't really see myself needing to flash custom roms immediately. the gps works flawlessly, no need for lagfixes like the vibrant. even with the custom espresso skin, the myt4g is super fast. on top of that, i seem to get better signal 3 signals vs. the vibrant.

and that's my short review of both phones. right now, i use the myt4g primarily for work as it has exceptional battery life and durability over the vibrant.

i use the vibrant as my personal phone because it's an incredible gaming and media playback device. now, i just need to wait for that new galaxy 2 to come out..
[myTouch 4G General] OnE ShoT:
I dont know what ur talking about the buttons feel solid imo unless ur phone came with faulty buttons and in terms of force closing I only had the market close on me once
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Lakeshow423:
Hey guys...got the PhantomSkin Chromatic kit in the mail today and decided to install it this morning. The package was very impressive. Included was the Chromatic kit and 2 free screen savers. I was currently using the black OEM gel case with the dinky screen protector. I first put on the screen protector follwing the instructions given. The install was a breeze! Coming from a ZAGG shield, I was very impressed with this screen protector. The screen was clear with little to minimal orange peel! I then started with the Chromatic Install. The battery cover went on smooth. The next thing I did was the camera part. I noticed even though I was pressing down hard and hitting it with the dryer, the sides would pop up! The MT4G has alot of rounded corners so this really concerned me. I went ahead with the bottom part and the sides. Nothing was holding, I dont know if it was the weather or what...I started peeling it off to return the product but decided to look read up here alittle bit. Thanks to member "methodz" who installed this also, I found a new way to install it. I just put on piece by piece, but instead of using the dryer, he recommended a lighter!!! After hearing this, the install was cake..everything stuck on like a glove. I dont recommend this product unless you have the black version as there are many gaps! I love the CF look and it feels great, I am going to keep this setup and match it with the OEM holster till a Otterbox series comes out. Sorry for the big pics, but I wanted everyone to see the detail and the gaps. Hope this helps anybody who was thinking of installing this kit! On to the pics!!!

-Merwin

FYI: I aligned the battery cover after these pictures were taken.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Lakeshow423:
SET #2
[myTouch 4G Accessories] sykokiller:
Man that looks good.Also looks like a lot of work to get perfectly lined up and stuck down.How much was that?
[myTouch 4G Accessories] ESKIMOn00b:
I'm gonna make out resident screen protector application expert put mine on! It should be here soon :-)
[myTouch 4G Accessories] methodz:
the back of my phone looks like that, but i didn't use the side pieces, just the 3 main pieces on the back.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] dustrho:
That looks really good, but I don't think I'd have the patience to line all those pieces up perfectly. What's it going to be like when/if you ever decide to remove them off the phone?

I checked out that site after getting my MT4G, and can't you choose what design you want for your phone? It didn't even show a picture of what it would look like after selecting the one for the MT4G.

Nice photos BTW!
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Lakeshow423:
It looks difficult but really easy. It was easy to align. The kit cost $29.99 but there is a 30% off coupon on their site. You get the Chromatic kit plus two free screen protectors for $20.96 shipped to your door!

HAHAHAH! This my first time! Tell you what..you root my phone and I'll lay this down for you LOL!

Looks good methodz! Your lighter post saved me!

Thanks! I used by DSLR and bounced the flash so you can get an idea of the CF pattern and tried to get as much detail as possible. The install was easy bro! Also I peeled off some of the stuff i slightly heated and it came off without residue!
[myTouch 4G Accessories] netter123:
Looks good, but it would concern me that the silver bezel is still exposed to possible scratching/damage in the event of a drop. Is there any way to protect that with a skinz type of system like this?

Also, you were able to peel off some without residue, but does anyone have experience trying to get this kind of thing off after a few months?
[myTouch 4G Accessories] QUEDRO:
How exactly to use the lighter???

I am unpacking now... :D
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Lakeshow423:
Just get close to the parts that arent sticking well and run it back and forth maybe like 3 timess to give it a little heat. Dont let the flame touch the CF. Get your thumb afterwards and stroke it into place LOL! GL on the install!
[myTouch 4G Accessories] QUEDRO:
Geezz....I already messed up the screen shield.....DUNNO this instruction says soap, but id doesn't workout....

I see kinda wave-y pattern....is it normal?

Ain't for me this job...I'm pissed now

PS: redid it, look ok now, not perfect job though......Scared to apply the CF skin.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] dragon_usa:
yes, this phone has a lot curve, Even Zagg was hard to put on the phone. but I manage to get zagg stick in to the phone now.

If it doesn't work, I can send it back for replacement. I hope you guy can send your Phantom skinz back too if you mess it up.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] methodz:
haha, i guess i'm daring... i stuck the skin on first and lit the actual CF areas. just don't light it for too long or you can damage something, just a split second or a few passes. you will find some of the skin doesn't stick too well if it is cold out so you will have to heat it. the instructions say use a blow dryer but i used a lighter instead.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] QUEDRO:
I did it! And actually I am very impressed with my results on CF skin! Was easy and trick with the lighter worked fantastic! Very pleased! Looks and feels great!

Thank you guyz!
[myTouch 4G Accessories] SugarMouth:
Looks nice! I would warn people you will feel the edges of the skin when you hold the phone. I used that on an iPhone and removed it after getting tired of feeling the edges of the skin.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] ESKIMOn00b:
thats kinda how it works out... i work at radioshack and im the one resident geek... i root all the phones, hack wii's, xbox, ps3... one of the guys is really good at applying screen protectors and such. when mine gets here i'll take it to him and have him put it on... then im sure we'll go use that lighter for something else... :-)
[myTouch 4G Accessories] QUEDRO:
Neah, I barely feel anything. It really depends, I guess, on the shape of the phone. Maybe iPhone is not well suited for this, but mine feels smooth and nice.

I warmed up really well the edges with the lighter when I applied the skin, so it set tight.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] sapo916:
Just a note for others: the screen protector will show artifacts and other random blobs that may look like smudges when its fresh. This should go away within 48 hours as it completely dries. Just relax and be patient, the world wasn't built in a day.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] ESKIMOn00b:
AFAIK all of these types of protectors (zagg, bse, ps)recommend putting the phone down for 24hrs after application.... to ensure it sticks, and to allow the solution to dry
[myTouch 4G Accessories] sapo916:
As soon as you squeeze out most of the water it will work fine for usage. At least with the phantom skinz.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Flipsidiaz:
Let me first say that this is my very first time ever buying a skin like this or a screen protector for any of my phones. I always knew about them since my brother has one for his Iphone but I never really craved for it.

Well now lets start, After just getting the Cf Black skin today and installing it, which took less than 20 minutes for the CF and 2 minutes for the screen protector, I have to say that I am really impressed. Installation was a breeze very easy and the pieces were very easy to align, although I used a blow dryer for any edge that looked like it was going to wrinkle.I'm impress with the quality of both the CF and screen protector, except that I have nothing to compare it against. The CF feels really nice, it has a slight texture not too rough but still noticeable. If you like the grippy'ness of the Mytouch bare, the CF takes that away but for me thats not a big deal as it still feels really nice. Last thing, the screen protector is very nice,the fit is perfect in my eyes (very minimal space between the screen protector's edge and the actual edge of the screen), non tacky, barely no orange peel from my eyes and I bet will not be noticed once it is dry.

As for not getting CF because your phone isn't black I would have to disagree with that as I think the CF on my Red Mytouch 4G looks very sexy :D. The gaps do not take away from the phone at all in my opinion.As for the red, I think it gives a very nice contrast to the black CF since it isn't too bright or dull, it sort of highlights the phone if you know what I mean. Really brings some eye candy:)

Overall I am very impressed with Phantomskinz!

Lol just my two cents for my first post.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] onyonees:
just my two cents on the Clear phantom skinz. The only other clear skin i have worked with is the zagg invisishield so i am using that for comparison.

- doesn't feel gummy like the zagg

- less orange peel than zagg, but there is still some when you look at an angle

- installs very similar to zagg, main difference is you dip phantom skinz into a cup of water to peel it from the paper backing.

- you may see some small bubbles under the skin that will not come out no matter how much you try to rub them out. dont worry about those, they disappear after a few days.

I ordered last tuesday and i received last friday. They send you two sets for the price of one, free shipping, total price with the "winter30" coupon was around $18. Great deal and i am completely satisfied. if you have any questions feel free to pm me.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] mixer5911:
Sorry for the double post... I pushed submit on my phone by mistake... here's the other pic

FFC ftw!
[myTouch 4G Accessories] sapo916:
Here is another black CF on black phone. I didn't apply the left and right sides and the screen protector is still wet. I used a heat gun to apply it and it sticks really well that way.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] ESKIMOn00b:
Got mine today! Love it! Super awesome... used a lava lamp to put mine on lol.... took the lava part out and used the bulb like a heat lamp...

Everyone I see has been telling me how sick it is :-)

Grippieness be damned! I have a holster from the tmo store and a Bluetooth...
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Lakeshow423:
Seems like everybody is happy with their Chromatic skin. I love mines thats for sure! The screen protector that came with it was worth the $21 I paid. I used Zagg all the time and this shield looks as tough minus the grippy screen and most important to me...minus like 90% of the orange peel :D
[myTouch 4G Accessories] ESKIMOn00b:
So they have a lifetime warranty right? What if I have to send the phone for warranty swap... does that count as a reason to get a replacement? Anyone have any personal experience with this one...
[myTouch 4G Accessories] sapo916:
50% sale guys, check it out

http://twitter.com/#!/PhantomSkinz/status/8005968147259393
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Master™:
:(

Should of waited a day lol.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] darkpaniel:
Is there a coupon code for this? I just went through the checkout process.. and the price remained at 29.95.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] darkpaniel:
Okay, disregard my last post.. I need to learn to read... it was right there on their site. The code is CYBER50.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] excarnate:
Hey, thanks, and thanks to OP & sapo916! I just ordered one for me, and I'll see if my wife wants one.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Chedderknight:
Tried to get one with the code, no dice, wouldn't go through
[myTouch 4G Accessories] sapo916:
It was a cyber monday sale.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] lisap006:
ummm i just placed an order an the code worked for me...there's a screenshot
[myTouch 4G Accessories] sapo916:
Yeah surprisingly the code still works even though it was set to expire Nov 29. Better get on it fast.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Chedderknight:
it tells me gift or discount code invalid
[myTouch 4G Accessories] laztpn0i:
Code still works for me. Can't wait to install it.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] jester450:
Gotta say. This was really easy to install and looks REALLY GOOD.

I ended up using a lighter quickly running it across rounded parts. Heats up the adhesive and makes it instantly stick. No need to use a blow dryer.

Just make sure you run the flame quickly across. A couple passes should be good. Just don't burn the material, or even worse, your phone.

Did I say how good this skin looks?
[myTouch 4G Accessories] julez456:
Just ordered mine. Found a new code. winter30 worked for me. $20.96 shipped. :)
[myTouch 4G Accessories] MT4G_Slave:
Here's mine. Easier to install than I thought.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Lakeshow423:
^^Looks good bro :D Now install their screen protector, you'll love it!
[myTouch 4G Accessories] MT4G_Slave:
I totally failed @ installing both of them. :D

It was very hazy and had micro bubbles, I tried waiting 24 hours and it doesn't seem to be going away. I must be doing something wrong. I did add more dish soap the second time around which took most of the haziness away but it made a rainbow effect.

Do you think baby wash will make a great improvement? Any ways, It's too late I already bought the Realook screen protector, heard it was good.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Thumper1226:
I used shampoo to install my screen protector, it was hazy on the edges for about 2 days but eventually went away. I've even had people asked me why I wasn't using a screen protector and I would tell them to look harder :)

And I love my carbon fiber skin, although I did mess up a bit on the bottom part that curves.still looks great.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] dc4:
I have had the full cf skin and the screen protector on for almost 2 weeks now and I would highly recommend it to anyone that is on the fence about getting one. I used the lighter trick it it worked wonders on the corners. Now everything is aligned and my corners are perfect with no creases. The screen protector is superb, it self heals from light scratches as I learned from installing it. I was making sure that it was on and that I had squeegeed all the soapy water from under but was not paying attention to how wet the top was and kept scraping it when it was dry, leaving dozens of fine scratch marks on it. I thought about ripping it off and re-applying the 2nd one as those types of things bother me but thought I would give it some time and see what happens. The next day it was not only dry under the protector, it was scratch free and ever since any little scratches I see on it disappear the next day. Overall, extremely happy with the purchase and will buy from them again for any future phones. My camera battery is dead so Ill try and get some pics of it up tomorrow.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] vw671:
I had the same CF on my captivate, how is the adhesive holding up on the MT4G's matte surface?
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Flipsidiaz:
For me its holding up perfectly. Its going to be about one month and there is no lifting of any edges. But that all depends on how you use/store your phone.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] darkpaniel:
How do the included screen protectors compare to the likes of zagg invisible shield? Does it have the rubbery feeling that slows you down? any orange peels?

If anyone has pictures of the the screen protector installed.. I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] Lakeshow423:
I came from zagg and to tell you the truth, phantomskinz screen protector protects like the zagg minus the orange peel and the sticky feeling. I posted a pic in the beg. of the thread! Their protectors are top notch.
[myTouch 4G Accessories] __McB__:
Does the skin increase or decrease the grippiness of the phone? I love the phone "naked" but it is a bit to slippery for me. I am looking for something to increase the grippiness of the phone but don't want to go with a case.

Thanks!