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[G Tablet General] Reggie777:
WTF???

Am I the only one angry at the those who are driving Roebeet away? Where are they cowering or hiding now? Why are they so silent? I decided to keep my gTab because of this site, but mostly because of him, as I am sure many current owners are. Where are the moderators to explain their behavior? And is shutting down a thread, and removing posts of loyal posters who are simply asking for some explanation from the XDA moderators the really best way to go? Banning people for asking for some accountability? This is America, right?

1. When we decide to flash roms, etc, WE do so. That is our decision, and we take the risks, knowingly, and freely.

2. If we choose to donate to anyone, We do so , freely and willingly.

The mere fact that some of the posts mention being sanctioned and banned by the moderators for standing by Roebeet, shows just how poisoned the atmosphere here has become. Don't the moderators see this? Aren't they supposed to be moderating anyone attacking another person?

I suppose this post will be "removed", and I'll be banned as well. But you know? Sometimes someone has to stand up and say things those is power do not want to hear. Making things bad for Roebeet so he feels he has to leave is NOT right! No matter how many people you ban, and how many voices you try to silence.
[G Tablet General] muerteman:
I second this notion, your words, however, are much better than what I could articulate. Thank you for these wonderful words.
[G Tablet General] poymeister:
Roebeet - are you going to continue to mod/update/improve tntlite 4.4.x and 5.0.x? Or are you shifting your focus completely to another tablet? With ginger and/or honey back on the radar, the need to mod tntlite still exists.

If you are planning to abandon tntlite, are you handing off your work to anyone?

Anyways, I will look for your posts somewhere on the interweb in the coming weeks by following the subtle hints from the previous posters.
[G Tablet General] amusedkid:
we will follow you wherever you will go.
[G Tablet General] ralexand:
According to his posts, he will not be abandoning the GTablet. His personal posts will shed some light on exactly what his future development plans are (developing for the Gtab until support for the platform no longer exits; same for Xoom).
[G Tablet General] S2W:
Shocked...

Wow... guess so much has happened here.

As stated on my thread in the themes section last week. I started creating new stat icons for TnT this past weekend dedicating most of my time and efforts to it... As I did for the Vegan Tab Roms.

Must say im shocked to see this bantering, cause we all know Roebeet as well as "others" in the Gtab Forum, who dedicated their valuable contributions... making this particular tablet useful for all of us to enjoy.

Not sure where this stands... I for one needed his assistance for making the icons easier to push on his rom. As Rothinc did with the Vegan Tab roms.

I trust that where ever you go, you will continue to fortify your efforts and expand your skills. As you can forsee there are many who support you.

We are all fans... well most will agree.
[G Tablet General] ralexand:
He's stated he's still going to provide support on XDA, but in a more passive role. He'll assume an active roll at another forum which previous posts will reference (I'm not taking that chance though :) )
[G Tablet General] S2W:
I understand and read the post where he cleared he would continue to lurk and support but overall, its not the same...

Don't worry lol. No neeed to get banned. IMHO he won't be hard to find.

BTW This shouldn't detract many from XDA. This is still an awesome community. Im just taken back by it and what aspired from it. lol
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
there is no policy towards Roebeet's ROM mods/ports. that's the truth so that it's not silenced.
[G Tablet General] Reggie777:
Closing a Thread is silencing it.

The thread that was explaining what was happening was closed, and locked. THAT is silencing the ongoing exchange of ideas! Let's call things as they are, and not try to spin it. OK?
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
There is no one driving Roebeet away; all posts removed were either against XDA forum rules (which all who join agree to), or were attacking another person - which you are asking moderators to do.

There is a lot of misinformation and assumptions being made about what is going on here - but let's put this down here - Roebeet's decision to move on is his, and his alone. His actions are his, and his alone.

Now let's get back on track and discuss what this thread is for - TnT Lite.
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
The thread was closed and locked due to the flaming, spamming, inflammatory and downright awful behavior going on - all of which are violations of XDA forum rules which everyone who joins and participates agrees to follow. There was no exchange of ideas. No spin - just facts. This is normal practice for all threads which spiral into the same routine of forum violations.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I don't plan to sell off my GTAB, yet. I'd like to at least see things through to their next firmware release (assuming they do actually release something in May). As I mentioned, I will still work on this - it just won't be posting mod updates in XDA, after next week. I will still be on XDA posting in general and also calling Viewsonic (I just did, 5 minutes ago). So that won't change.

I would like to mention where my updates will be, but I am not permitted to do that.
[G Tablet General] dschach:
Thanks Roebeet for all the work you've done providing roms and support for gtablet users. I am sorry to hear that you won't be posting roms anymore on xda dev.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I might still post mods in other areas, I haven't decided on that yet - ie. the Transformer thread is something I might have more of a presence in next month.

I am just stopping any mod updates HERE, in the GTAB XDA forum. That's the only thing I'm changing.
[G Tablet General] Vlad_z:
I have Tnt lite 4.4 ROM on my Gtab. When I check memory: "adb shell free"

It shows that linux kernel know only about 381752K...

But specs. said that Gtab got 512000K.... where goes the rest 130000K of RAM?

Update: ok I see.... nvidia allocated 128M of RAM. But why that was the choice? Probably question for kernel developer.
[G Tablet General] jacindc:
So, if I'm on 2.02 and the performance pack, should I be having the USB file-read issues that people are talking about, not being able to play Angry Birds, etc.? Because I'm not having Angry Birds problems, and I don't think I'm having the USB file issues (though I don't really move stuff over very often), and I love the speed, and don't care about the camera.

Am I just lucky?
[G Tablet General] rushless:
2.02 should be fine. It is us folks who updated with 2.03 from Roebeet's noble effort with newer drivers (I think) taken from the Advent Vega.

If from the Advent, it makes sense we had mounting problems, since that device does not have internal storage- only microsd and device rom space for apps.

I mentioned this the other day, but it seemed ok until folks rebooted their devices or used usb mode..... so close.....
[G Tablet General] Talk2Rider:
I bought mine on Election Day, so my 30 Day return window is closing! What do we think?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
People reported that they would mount the device to their PC, copy some files, and then unmount and they wouldn't show up. And, for me, clockworkmod was a mess, files were copied but it couldn't read them when I rebooted into recovery - my concern is that these file copies were actually corrupted in some way and thus the push to 2.0.4.

I don't see the Notion Ink out yet, so I think you should keep it. :)
[G Tablet General] Jessieryder:
Thanks for all the work in making this hardware worthwhile to own.

v2.04- my gmail application closes anytime I open... is there something I need to do to get this running? I've used the other mail client and that seems to work, but I'd like to use the gmail app if possible.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Roeby, all is good :)

1. We know now what the chipset can do with more optimized drivers

2. Went from a piece of raw coal to a raw diamond in regards a device, based on great efforts by you guys :)

3. Less than a month and look at the progress with very little help from VS

BTW, I was wrong about progress with 2.04, since if you go to the actual Youtube site and play HQ or better files at full screen: AMAZING :)

Added: Notion Ink is nowhere near a distribution or mass production plan and still in marketing strategy phase- Think Spring-time ;)
[G Tablet General] Talk2Rider:
Froyo update on the Archos today...not exactly hearing a lot of cheering goingon over on the Archos forum...what? no Flash? Doh!
[G Tablet General] mdwalker@yahoo.com:
> 3. Youtube sucks again, as does G4 and IMDB

I don't know about G4 and IMDB, but youtube and other videos continue to play nice for me, much better than before the experimental pack.
[G Tablet General] rodzero:
Using the latest installment (2.0.4). Awesome. Thanks for all the hard work!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
It's definitely a bump in speed, just not sure how much versus the PP. Again, I think it's a fair trade for a relatively stable mod.

I need to read archosfans.com. I bet Flash isn't there because it chokes on 256MB RAM. :O I have a 32 gen8, so I have to mull over that upgrade.

EDIT: There's grumbling about the market - I hope they can figure out a workaround for our fix!

No issues on my end (yet). I'm on 2.0.4 -- currently an upgrade from 2.02 + PP which is my "baseline" now.
[G Tablet General] NewbTrader:
What browser are you guys using (the default or dolphin hd) and how do you raise the resolution of youtube videos in the browser? Just touching the resolution button flashes, but I can't adjust it. TIA! I'm still on 2.0.3, maybe I should move to .4. Did .4 result in speed increases?
[G Tablet General] jacindc:
If we're on 2.02 plus the performance pack, can we just install 2.04 directly?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Yes, it will work - any version of 2.x will work direct to 2.0.4 - I designed it that way.

Btw, I'm not planning a 2.0.5 anytime soon, unless someone finds a major bug, or if we can have the camera and the performance pack live together in peace and harmony.
[G Tablet General] Talk2Rider:
Well, I think once you got Angry Birds working that was pretty much the finish line for Rom development. ;)
[G Tablet General] jacindc:
Take a deserved break! You've made this impulse buy something I've become very attached to! Great work!

We can all just focus our energies on waiting for Gingerbread. ...
[G Tablet General] Hannigan174:
Just wondering... I have 2.03 and my USB seems fine. Why would that be? and yes I did install 2.03 correctly.

If I have 2.03 working correctly is there any reason I should upgrade to 2.04? It seems not to me, but if anyone else has any input I would be happy to hear it.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I would recommend it. I really don't trust VOLD on 2.03 (that's what controls the USB mounting process). The fact that my file copies could not be read by clockworkmod made me a little concerned.
[G Tablet General] verpissdich:
I've installed tntlite 2.04 and everything is working smooth. Did the market hack using titanium backup and am able to most applications, including the big ones like Pandora, angry birds, mint, etc. that were missing before so I know the hack was successful. That being said, I am still not able to find specific applications and am not sure why. Specifically I am looking for bluetooth gps. I can find a damn license file in my search, but nothing else turns up. I've gone about this multiple ways with same results.

So my questions is whether anybody else is able to see bluetooth gps applications in the market and if so, what in the hell am I doing wrong? If not, does anybody have a link for the apk. The application is now free from what I can tell, just need to get the apk to attempt to sideload.
[G Tablet General] ygrazi:
Im having the same exact problem.
[G Tablet General] verpissdich:
Glad to know I am not the only one... pretty frustrating. Just give us full bloody access to the market Google.

Too bad really because I like the device otherwise, but if I can't pair it with my Bluetooth GPS, it is a no go for me.

On another note, Roebeet thanks a million for all of your amazing work with this. Picked up the device today and had it loaded up with tntlite 2.04 within 5 minutes thanks to your great instructions and simple installation process.
[G Tablet General] rsfaze:
I can point out multiple threads all across XDA that redirect people to other websites, why are they not removed/shut down?
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
#1 - here's the snippet from the Forum Rules, with the main violation in red:

Encouraging members to participate in forum activities on other phone related sites is prohibited.

Off-site downloads are permitted if the site is non-commercial and does not require registration.

Off-site downloads from sites requiring registration are NOT encouraged but may be permitted if the following conditions are met:

A) the site belongs to a member of XDA-Developers with at least 1500 posts and 2 years membership who actively maintains XDA-Developers' support thread(s) / posts, related to the download,

B) the site is a relatively small personal website without commercial advertising/links (i.e. not a competitor forum-based site with purposes and aims similar to those of XDA-Developers.com.)​

#2 - If that's the case, report them. That's how this community functions best, when all members of the community adhere to the rules.

I think we're about done with this conversation. Please move on to discussing the MOD itself.
[G Tablet General] jasturbo02:
I'm a little confused here.. you say to get on with the discussion of this MOD but if Roebeet moves on to another forum, there is no more MOD. And how is Roebeet posting information about where we can get the new updated ROMs "encouraging" people to participate on another forum? I don't see how this violates the rules.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
This is relevant, so hopefully the mods won't censor me

I haven't decided yet if this thread will stay active, after this weekend. I had a recent plan to keep it active so that way users here would be able to get the latest updates and could respond here and I would support you here. The only thing I was going to change was that the links to the downloads and changelog would direct you elsewhere (and somewhere where it was not required for you to register or pay anything, I might add). This would benefit me because I'd only need to update the mod downloads and changelog in one place, not two. This also untethers the mod from being a primarily XDA mod, which means I have more freedom to make mods as I see fit - see the TNT Lite 5 / TTx debacle as an example of what I'm talking about. This is different than what I had written on Monday as, in retrospect, I can see XDA's point where this could be seen as luring users away. That was not my intent.

However - I have been told, at least so far, that I am still not permitted to post any links. I'm not certain if XDA will change their minds or not. If they do not, then I will completely retire this thread by Sunday and the moderators can close it or delete it or do whatever they want with it. I am not leaving XDA, I was only moving the download/changelog location of my three mods and nothing more.

The reason why I added "RETIRING" to the title to all three of my mods is that, given that I have no idea how this will pan out right now, I have to assume that XDA will not change its mind so I didn't want users to be shocked if suddenly this thread was retired. I wanted them to have some preparation and it's also why I wanted to give this a few days.

Jerdog is correct that this was my decision to make. However, I seem to be on a road with no exits, right now.
[G Tablet General] erraskey:
China East

As you can see from the flag on the LEFT, I'm a Canadian, eh? That means, no matter how right-wing I am (and I'm a very seriously right wing kind of fella) I'm pretty much a Socialist south of the border!

So I can't believe what's going on here. I had though the US of A was the last bastion of free speech on the face of the planet. The very heavy-handed xda approach reeks of the censorship China uses to keep its population under control. Someone speaks out against the regime? Off the portal, off the web, next thing you know off the streets and into the nearest police station.

Come on guys, lighten up. This is a shared resource - we're all trying to make android more competitive. The bad guys have a name and it's apple, not roebeet. We're all trying to make our user experience more useful, viable and sustainable. I have to assume that roebeet screwed someone's pooch here, not sure how. I've been here since December - never was here before, will never be here again. Different bookmark now.

Oh, I'm sorry! (It's a Canadian thing to say sorry, right?) This doesn't reference the mod. Well, what mod? It's gone elsewhere, like me.
[G Tablet General] nmadd:
Whatever happens, please don't delete this thread. It contains a wealth of searchable information that is very helpful to new users such as myself.

Thanks for your work.
[G Tablet General] mcgeeb:
What about VEGAn? Those threads point to his personal dev site?
[G Tablet General] cgingermany:
1.2 4349 update

I reloaded my Tab to 3588 and I kept getting updates on the OTA way, should I let it be and then flash v5 or do I leave it as 3588 as the instructions say? thank you!

v/r
[G Tablet General] cgingermany:
I agree with this here statement fam! There is a bunch of useful info and pointers on here that would be very sad for someone like me to miss out on. Hope the issue gets resolved and we keep learning from you guys. Thank you for what you do!

v/r
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Read this please

This takes precedence over all the drama:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1035983

4349 is very similar to UAT 3991 - I haven't tested TNT Lite 4.4.0 yet as a baseline, but I plan to. Just hold tight.

Btw, TNT Lite is definitely getting retired (but not for the reasons I stated before) -- TwoTapsX will be based off 4349 so TNT Lite (the 1.1-based ROM) becomes obsolete, once that happens.
[G Tablet General] cgingermany:
OK, read the follow on thread you suggested. Got it. Thanks again.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
It should if you use standard recovery. But I have NOT tested that yet. Just going to take some time.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
gADAM 2.0.0 will be tested with the new bootloader

I want ALL my future mods to be on this new bootloader, in a week. After TwoTapsX 1.0, I want to work on gADAM to keep everything in sync. This is an improvement, just for the enhanced recovery.

My guess is that the new kernel should work with this mod, but I'll need to test it.
[G Tablet General] Synman:
We're going need all future roms to include recovery if that's the case.... or all rom devs drop cwm.
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
No... A way around the new bootloader needs to be found. Or it needs to be removed completely
[G Tablet General] Synman:
I'm seriously not comfortable with the precedence being set here.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
There is no way around it - it's what the vendor has decided to do. I've been warning about this for a month, and you know what happened when I voiced my opinion. Well, it's now released and the modder's here will HAVE to deal with it, now.

Either the XDA community will embrace 1.2, or they will bury their heads and make believe it does not exist (which is what happened last month with 3991). I've already made my intentions clear - I am embracing 1.2.

Here's the problem with burying your head in the sand -- users WILL be stock 4349 (or newer) moving forward. They will be a small number now, but in a month there will be hundreds or more (all those Amazon users, for example). This is not going to go away.
[G Tablet General] dwkennedy:
I got my G tablet back from viewsonic about a week ago (sporadic hissing audio problem, which seems to have been fixed; it hissed on 3588 before it left 2 wks ago)

It came back with 3588 installed, and with a new boot screen. Viewsonic logo is gone, replaced with flowers and leaves. Then you get the gtablet logo, then it continues the TNT boot sequence.

I did the OTA update, new rom seems to work pretty smooth. I do miss the Google apps, market, and especially a kernel that will let me mount CIFS so I am looking forward to a new mod based on 4349.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Don't forget to mention that you have released a modified version of CWM that works with the new 1.2 loader and going forward I expect that the incompatibilities of ROM manager and other apps that are currently not compatible with the new bootloader will be fixed to work....app developers are usually quick to recognize the direction that vendors are going and adapt or die.

Once TTx 1.0 is released I will be testing your new(er) CWM and also ROM manager as there have been numerous updates since TTx went on hold.

Power to the people, we are a force to be reckoned with as VS and Nvidia have discovered.
[G Tablet General] booge3211:
stupid newbie question but my g tab says that it is on build number frf91 so what does that mean for going to the new 1.2 rom.? im running tnt lite 4.4.0 and have been.
[G Tablet General] triggerftu:
Just means you are useing Android froyo build 91 it doesn't mean u are on 1.2 just telling what build of froyo you are useing

Sent from my GTablet-TnT-Lite
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
As these are no longer in active development they will be moved to General in 72 hours.
[G Tablet General] RayYung:
roebeet,

Any plan to work on a new 1.2 base ROM? A new TnT Lite or new TapNTap?

I am looking forward for your ROM. Please post a link here if you have one.

Thanks,
[G Tablet General] skozsert:
Search for slatedroid. The link is (apparently) not allowed here.
[G Tablet General] badtuna:
Hello,

Do you know where I can download a full version of TnT Lite 4.2.4? I loaded Clockmodwork and subsequently loaded TnT Lite 4.2.4 successfully and did all the reboot stuff, but the end result show nothing really changed other than I had to reconfigure my settings since I wiped out all the data prior. The TnT file name I originally downloaded was gtab.tnt_litev4_24_suppl.zip I figure this file is a supplement or a fix rather than a full version? Appreciate the help. I'm still a newbie on using this G Tablet. Thanks.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
You have to load 4.2.0 base first and then apply (install, no data wipe needed) the 4.2.4 supplemental (find link to download in post#1) at the bottom (beneath the screen prints) under "Version Archives:" 2nd one down
[G Tablet General] hikouka71:
ok i'm having a weird problem today, go to the market and update some of my apps and none of them will download/update...

"download was unsuccessful, please try again...."

ok figured out hte problem, the tab's battery had run down completely, and apparnetly there isn't any type of 'bios' battery to keep the date/time active, my tab's date had reverted to 2008 and the time was off, corrected those and updates are running fine now, that seems like an odd thing that it can't maintain the clock data even with main battery dead...

so along with that, does anyone know of an app that will automatically set the system time at startup with a net timeserver?
[G Tablet General] tyunechow:
Hi everbody, i'm a newbie, and i have problem with my Gtab, it's can play video with the original rom. after installing with gADAM and TnT lite 4.4, both can't play video (.mp4, .avi...) video i download in 1080p rate and some 720p. i tried using many video app but still not able to open. would anyone please help me :(
[G Tablet General] triggerftu:
Get arc player from the,market it is free and supports all video formats so far. Atleast from my exp it has.
[G Tablet General] Mujun Kross:
Still a lot of good information for a ROM that a lot of people use...should put this back where it was.