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[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danibri82:
So I was assuming since Windows 7 comes with like drivers for everything, I'd be ok, but apparently I'm not. I'm dropping my ISP this week. I can't justify paying $30/month for the same internet connection that USB tethering my phone can provide me. I plugged it in to Tether and I get a failed driver install. Windows knows that it's an android phone, thats about it though. Can anyone point me in the correct direction??

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 32bit

Phone: Hero CDMA w/ CyanogenMod 6.0 and a kernel that allows 768mhz OC.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danaff37:
It does come on windows 7. Could be your cable, try another to make sure. And what rom? If it's sense, you have to use htc sync software. If it's cm, google wired tether for root users and use that instead of the built in one, the built in one has bugs with htc phones.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danibri82:
So it turns out the drivers weren't on Windows 7. Once I could find them, I was ok
[Galaxy Tab General] mike_m:
I love the idea of the Galaxy Tab, but unfortunately due to my eyesight I'm going to have to stick with the Ipad and return my Samsung Galaxy Tab bought from PCWorld UK last Monday.

Anyone got any ideas for the best approach to use with PCWorld UK to obtain a full refund. I have opened the box and used the Tab for a few days, was careful with packaging and have performed a factory reset on the device.

If I cannot get a full refund from PCWorld UK then onto eBay it willl go.

I will be first in line when there is a decent 10inch version available.

Mike
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
If I were you, I'd probably complain that I'm unable to get to full desktop sites of certain websites (e.g. BBC iPlayer) and that was your whole raison d'être for buying a Tab.

Yes, it can be fixed by flashing a later firmware, but you don't know that! ;)

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] ftgg99:
Dave, you seem to be compounding his anger with irrational statements. Why dont you just download one of the 6 other browsers that are availiable online and in the market and which show full desktop sites.

Theres absolutely no need to flash new firmware and a senior member should know that...
[Galaxy Tab General] mormegil83:
He is simply trying to give an excuse to receive a full refund not give a work around for the web browser...
[Galaxy Tab General] raqball:
Just a thought but did you try to download Spare Parts and increase the font size through it?
[Galaxy Tab General] gareth824:
I took my iPad back to PC World and got a full refund after telling them it was no good too me due to lack of flash. They refunded me without fuss.

I'd go with what the other poster advised and say that sites like iPlayer are going straight to mobile view but you purchased it in good faith believing it would do full sites.

I love my Tab, especially now I got full sites working after flashing it :)
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
You seem to have *completely* misread both the original post, and my reply!

As far as I can tell, the OP loves the Tab but can't get on with the 7" screen due to poor eyesight. So, he wants an excuse to return the device that the store will accept given that it has been used.

All I have done is given him that excuse. If he takes his Tab back to PC World and demonstrates that he can't get full fat iPlayer on it, he can legitimately claim that the device is not fit for purpose!

Putting the OPs question to one side though, on the firmware that came with my Tab it didn't work! In order to get full fat iPlayer on the Tab I *had* to flash a later firmware. And yes, I tried lots of different browsers including:

Skyfire

Opera

Firefox

XScope

Dolphin HD

With the shipped firmware, not one of these would give me the full desktop iPlayer site *and* allow me to play the flash content on it. It didn't matter what I set the useragent to, and yes I tried everything.

The problem also came up on lots of other websites (e.g. Carphone Warehouse). In that case, whilst I could get to a desktop version of the site, the moment I clicked on a link it would take me back to the mobile site.

So far, the only known way of fixing this is to flash to JK4 (see here). Note that your firmware may well be different to the original firmware on *my* device, so *you* may not have this issue, but since my device came from PC World, I'm prepared to bet that the OPs firmware is the same as mine, and therefore will exhibit the same behaviour.

So yes, I do know what I am talking about here, and there is most definitely a reason to flash a new firmware! :)

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] mike_m:
Agreed. I just find the 10inch form factor of the Ipad screen more suitable for my use. Dolphin HD browser and Skyfire both work great. I have used Spare Parts and applied the compatability fix and also increased fiont sizes.

I am just looking for a reasonable sounding excuse to get a full refund from PCWorld UK rather than a quick sale on eBay where I will loose some moeny.

I find the magnification smoother on the Ipad, plus Angry Birds does seem to stutter more than on the Ipad.

Mike.
[Galaxy Tab General] mike_m:
I am not angry, I love the Android OS and the open-ness it brings, its the form factor that is not suitable. As soon as a decent full feature 10inch android tablet is available then I will be first in oine for a sale.

I now realise 10ich is my "sweet spot", I am just looking for a reasonable "unfit for purpose" excuse to get my money back within PCWorlds 7 working days refund policy.

Mike
[Galaxy Tab General] mike_m:
You state BBC iPlayer and Carphone Warehouse as examples of the desktop websites that only show the "mobile" version. Can you tell me any others I can use as examples. My Tab is already "boxed" up, ready to go back to the store. Thanks. Mike.
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
Not off the top of my head because I've flashed a working firmware on my device now, so it all works ok! :)

iPlayer is probably the best one though - the mobile site doesn't give you live streams for starters and the recorded streams are low quality compared to the desktop versions.

Yesterday I watched the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix live on my Tab using the "desktop" iPlayer site, and this would have impossible with the stock firmware.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] daniel.weck:
The 10" Advent Vega is coming soon at Dixons (Currys or PCWorld), unless of course they cancel it just like they had to axe the Toshiba Folio 100 ;)
[Galaxy Tab General] mike_m:
Job done!

Took the tab into my local PCWorld UK store this evening and walked away with a full refund without too much hassle.

Assistant I spoke to was convinced he could get it showing full desktop sites with a change in Settings. When he could not, the refund was very quickly offered.

I enjoyed my week with the Tab. Just being able to stuff content on without Itunes, the camera, android market were all great. in the end the 7inch screen was not right for me.

Roll on a 10inch, Honeycomb Android tablets, if Samsung produce one of these then they a sale again.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vlug:
Yea jus what the title says... Over 3g, 4g, and wifi. The stream lags. It jumps every second. I had this problem since I had the phone. never really thought about it. does anyone else have or had this problem and knew how to fix it? Thanks for looking if u decide to....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vlug:
Bump?

Sent from purgatory
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chazglenn3:
Qik sucks. Try Tango.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
This is the best news of the day .
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
Has noone tried a low level format utility? I once "bricked" a USB flash drive and fixed it with a low level format utility. Instead of reading file partitions and the like it just accesses the raw disk and 0s it out. From there you should be able to reformat it with the normal windows formatting tools.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
if you could tell how to low level format works and where to find a good working tool ( I know I could google but then I still don't know if it is a good app)
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
Pretty sure this is the one I used to recover a "dead" flash drive previously.

http://hddguru.com/software/2006.04.12-HDD-Low-Level-Format-Tool/

I don't know if it'll work but I would think that it should.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dmontes:
Excuse my ignorance, but would this be used to format a MicroSD card that has been "bricked" by using it in a Samsung Focus, or to make a MicroSD card usable in a Samsung Focus?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
its to debrick a sd-card that is used in a wp7 phone , if you have a bricked card please first try low level format .

I have to first buy a small torx to open my phone :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] pencilcase:
this tool does not work to reformat wp7-used cards :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
OK thanks for testing , but the symbian way is confirmed .

if you can't find a symbian phone maybe I can help ( I have one )

ps there are rumours that wm6.5 can do it to .
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tom Servo:
Anyone actually tried the damn disk manager in Windows (i.e. diskmgmt.msc)? You know, before one runs out downloading esoteric tools, why not try the built-in stuff? I'd be surprised if this is anything beyond WP7 overwriting the MBR with its own crap. (The MBR keeps the partition table, too, and you aren't required to have one if your operating system uses an alternate way and/or doesn't need to boot from it).
[Windows Phone 7 General] pencilcase:
obviously yes. tried all obvious tools, windows does not even detect the card as plugged in to the computer.

event tried a blackberry!

only question is now, who lives around Frankfurt/germany and has a symbian device?
[Windows Phone 7 General] fallenczar:
including gparted???
[Windows Phone 7 General] pencilcase:
including:

-diskpart

-mmc

-blackberry device

-multiple card readers

-hp storage format tool

-the mbr format tool above

blackberry fails : corrupt disc

all others fail because the disc doesnt show up for them to find it. if this was something trivial we would not have started the post.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
If you're running Windows 7 or Windows Vista, did you run it as administrator? What does it do? Does it see the card?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
That is the problem , the system don't see the card .
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
I think we need a symbian guru that can explain us way symbian see the card and windows doesn't
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
You have to define "the system don't see the card." Like in device manager, is anything there? Just because it doesn't show up as a drive doesn't mean squat.
[Windows Phone 7 General] pencilcase:
in mmc computer management the card does not appear AT ALL.

in device management, the card shows all "-" under volumes.

not sure how i can describe this in more detail, its simply as if i never plugged it in.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
I can't tell you exact (I can't test it at this moment , need a good screwdriver) , but what I understand is that device manager isn't seeing .

I did read somewhere that the os sees the card as write protected and 0 GB .
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
dos it tell you the name of the card or the ID
[Windows Phone 7 General] pencilcase:
no, it simply gives me the name of my sandisk micromate that carries the card. I have tried other usb card readers too though, same result
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
I really don't know if this wil work ,but here is a link to a symbian emulator http://everflux.de/nokia-symbian-s60-simulator-handy-emulator-335/

maybe we can use this to unbrick the sd cards without a real phone .
[Windows Phone 7 General] pencilcase:
gparted also does not find the disc at all.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
you don't want to mount the sdcard, you want to kill the partitions and crap that's on it.

1 boot a linux livecd

2 open a terminal as root

3 type: dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1000 of=/dev/your-device-id

wait for it to write zeros to the entire card, or however much 1Gb of zeros will fill. then format with whatever utility you want.

now, STOP USING THE TERM BRICK incorrectly. a brick is when an electric device is rendered unusable, broken, irrecoverable. sdcards do not brick. well, unless you smash them with a brick.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ndtinker:
Didn't work. /dev/sdb "No such device or address".
[Windows Phone 7 General] ckacey:
has anyone confirmed WM 6.5 6.1 6.x or 5.x? The only WP7 SD device I have is my HD7, I can't do any reformatting or anything to it until 30 days from the 8th, as it's my main zune device and I've already removed a phone LG GW910 from my marketplace and Zune account this month.

Also haven't opened the hardware yet, wating to make sure it isn't a lemon, my HTCs usually fail right away or work like tanks for longer than I'd care to use them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] xthing:
If WP7 locks the SD card to the hardware according to the SD hardware spec (h**p: w w w sdcard . org/ developers/tech/sdcard/pls/Simplified_Physical_Layer_Spec.pdf ... chapter 4.3.7) i suspect you'd need to issue a Forced Erase command to reset this (see 4.3.7.3 in the spec above).

I _suspect_ that the Windows SD driver does not support that command... so i am not sure that would be possible to do from Windows Vista/7.

But again: I am speculating here :-)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
this is not working.

sorry for the wrong naming , can you gif me the right name ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] elyl:
This man talks sense. We need something to be able to clear the SDHC (secure content) flag, and by default I don't think any Windows driver can do this. I suspect we'll need someone to write a new driver for SD card readers to be able to issue this command. Seems the Nokias can do it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
So basically, Microsoft is using an obscure capability of the SDHC spec that allows for cards to be password protected. Both Linux and Windows don't implement this portion of the spec and cannot read or write (including format/erase) the cards. The only other known devices that use this are certain Nokia phones and are thus the only known way to reformat them. Sounds like the original Xbox all over again.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ChrisKringel:
According to

support.microsoft.com/kb/2450831/en-us

the card is locked with a automatic generated key. Furthermore is wikipedia saying, that the locking "procedure" is called CPRM. While i did some reasearch on it i came across this tool

panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/index.html

Maybe someone could give it a try...

Regards

Chris
[Windows Phone 7 General] xthing:
Let's stay somewhat reasonable here:

This is not an obscure capability, this is spec'ed SD/MMC functionality and implemented accordingly by all SD/MMC OEMs. Nokia uses this functionality since a long time in some of their Symbian based phones. This is not a standard introduced by Microsoft.

Also looking at drivers/mmc/mmc_sysfs.c in the linux kernel it looks like Linux actually supports this functionality:

+ * implement MMC password reset ("remove password") and forced erase ("forgot
+ * password").
+ */
+static ssize_t
+mmc_lockable_store(struct device *dev, struct device_attribute *att,
+ const char *data, size_t len)
+{
+ struct mmc_card *card = dev_to_mmc_card(dev);
+
+ if (!mmc_card_lockable(card))
+ return -EINVAL;
+
+ if (mmc_card_locked(card) && !strncmp(data, "erase", 5)) {
+ /* forced erase only works while card is locked */
+ mmc_lock_unlock(card, NULL, MMC_LOCK_MODE_ERASE);
+ return len;
+ } else if (!mmc_card_locked(card) && !strncmp(data, "remove", 6)) {
+ /* remove password only works while card is unlocked */
+ struct key *mmc_key = request_key(&mmc_key_type, "mmc:key", NULL);
+
+ if (!IS_ERR(mmc_key)) {
+ int err = mmc_lock_unlock(card, mmc_key, MMC_LOCK_MODE_CLR_PWD);
+ if (!err)
+ return len;
+ } else
+ dev_dbg(&card->dev, "request_key returned error %ld\n", PTR_ERR(mmc_key));
+ }
+
+ return -EINVAL;
+}
+
+static struct device_attribute mmc_dev_attr_lockable =
+ __ATTR(lockable, S_IWUSR | S_IRUGO,
+ mmc_lockable_show, mmc_lockable_store);
+
+#endif
+

So it looks to me like you could write a small tool on linux to do this.

But again, i am speculating a lot and not an expert in this area.

The SD Formatter doesn't seem to be able to do this. Look at the following quote from their website:
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
I picked up a 32gb card on the way home from work. Tried everything I can think of to format it, nothing seems to work. Just because it's in the spec doesn't mean it's not obscure. When only two phone OS's and nothing else can work with it, I'd say it's pretty obscure.
[Windows Phone 7 General] xthing:
As i mentioned before: I think Linux supports this from a OS/driver perspective, i am just not aware of a tool under linux that can send the appropriate commands. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist or isn't possible.

I really don't want to go into the "obscure" discussion... i could point to other things like Apple's use of MicroSIMs for the iPad or Blackberry's use of proprietary protocols and encryption for email synchronization... but just let's not go there :)

I think someone with a little bit of development skill could easily write a small app on linux to send the forced erase command to a SD card, or someone with more serious development skills could implement a SD driver + app on Windows (again: still assuming that my speculation is correct and the standard WIndows SD driver doesn't support that command... no one has actually proven that this assumption is correct).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sandman_A_C:
Has anybody tried the formatters from panasonic?

http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/index.html
[Windows Phone 7 General] theclueless:
the formatter does not format protected area
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
Yes. They don't detect the card. Tried with built-in SD card reader as well as SD>USB adapter.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ndtinker:
I tried that one out a couple days ago, no go.
[Windows Phone 7 General] robstunner:
I swapped my focus for another focus (trade in i guess you can say) and my 16gb doesn't show up in my newer focus. FML.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
bump for HD2 visibility

bump for HD2/wp7/sd visibility
[Windows Phone 7 General] Zhariak:
Just curious,

Has anyone taken one of these cards, popped it in a linux box and tried "dd"ing the entire card with 0's?
[Windows Phone 7 General] safeburn:
i go stuck with every installation and trys, and to format i used a mac :) to break partitions and reformat to FAT
[Windows Phone 7 General] kapanak:
Are you telling me you were able to format the SD card from a WP7 in a Mac OS X system?
[Windows Phone 7 General] stef2000:
Format sd after win mo 7 - easy!

Easy and working way to "get back" your sd (if you have backup...):

Install the sd card into a camera (I have Canon sx1) and do a "Low level Format" - you will got your original sd again.
[Windows Phone 7 General] safeburn:
Yes i did, cause windows 7 find only 200, so i used mac disk tool to repair sd card and to break partions
[Windows Phone 7 General] Neolo:
Great news, my primary desktop OS is Mac :D

Thanks now I know how to back by sdcard.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fellixdesuza:
After using WP7 my PC saw SD card only 200mb. I've formated it via the HP USB disk Storgae Format Tools v2.1.8 run as administrator on Windows7 without any problems. there is a link http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/HP-USB-Disk-Storage-Format-Tool.shtml

Maybe this info will be helpfull for someone.

Sorry for my bad English.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jaethos:
Most cards aren't seen at all, not even being recognized as a card. In these cases that tool won't do anything, as it relies on Windows being able to see the card.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Micho:
GOOD NEWS TO EVERYONE!!

I had the same problem like you. I just came back from my friends.

We put my microsd card into Nokia E52. Device asked us for the password, we clicked "Cancel" then we went to NORMAL file menager and we formatted my card.

Im so happy!

Good luck
[Windows Phone 7 General] pkayrat:
HDDGURU.com it helps "Hard disk low level format"

Yeap, dude thanks a lot. It helped without any problem. I got my 16GB Flash back
[Windows Phone 7 General] ppsravan:
well, I formatted my SD card using my HD2. After loading the WP7 on my HD2, I've gone back to WM6.5 and used the built-in Format SD Card app on WM6.5 and it worked like a charm :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] pauloviegas:
I confirm, best tool for those who do not have MAC. I just wonder if we can have android installed after the WP7 ... I was reading and can't find it :) maybe is so evident that it just miss it in front of my eyes,lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] AzmanIshak:
Hi there, I already try to takeout my sdcard HTC HD7 (16GB) and read it using memory card reader. computer found that the sdcard was separated into two partition or can say it bricked?

the 1st partition its about 120MB - read and write (FAT16 if i not mistake)

and the second partition around - 14GB - unknown partition and unable to format and etc.

so I've no idea what to do next. FYI, the second partition is only visible when u're using disk management tools.
[Windows Phone 7 General] krishan2207:
All of u who r hvng trouble to format their cards plz use PANASONIC SD FORMAT TOOL (Google it.). I hv format my WP7 card to get the 16Gb instead of 200mb after flashing WP7 on my HD2.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FishFaceMcGee:
How is the software able to see the card with Windows unable to see it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] krishan2207:
It is specially designed by panasonic to format only flash devices just try it nd u will know how good it is. it also support low level formatting.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tuskooo:
If Windows can't see it this program can't see it either. To be sure, I tried.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gcianc:
worth a try but... "card not recognized" is what i get" using a newer canon elph. Format option is dimmed.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fabio__sousa:
;) this is all you need.... An hd2 back to wm6.5

don't look outside!!! Look inside!!!!

We do not have a cellphone we have a master piece!!! :d:d:d
[Windows Phone 7 General] foxbat121:
There appears to be two types of locked SD cards from WP7: one from phones like HD7's internal microSD card which will show two paritions and otherwise normal card; the other is from Samsung Focus's microSD card slot where the special SD security is enabled and the card won't even showup in any PC card reader.

Low level format and other specialty tools on PC or Mac work for 1st type of cards but won't work for cards locked down by Samsung Focus. That requires a driver level support for SD card security which does not exist in any of the card reader today. The only confirmed solution for 2nd type of cards is to use Nokia/Symbian phones to format it
[Windows Phone 7 General] zoebo1:
Hey guys im new to the site. I just flashed my phone to wm7 and i was getting the same problem. But i think i found a quick and easy solution that will format your sd for people like me who don't know the ins and outs about programming.

Well lets just say i was starting off with the whole 200 mb problem, so i tried everything to see if the new oson my phone can recognize my memory card. Then all of a sudden it hit me. Of course it won't recognize the card because the hd7 doesn't use one. I then started to think if maybe i format the phone with my micro sd card in it then that would work.

Well long story short it did. Now im reading over 14 gb with the memory card that came with my hd2. Idk if this helped anyone its just my $0.02
[Windows Phone 7 General] retlem:
This was really helpful!! Worked like a charm but just need to redo the activation again but that's fine!! THANKS!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Mulloz:
figured it was easiest to just go and buy a new nokia 6120 for 80 bux and works a treat formatting the card like they said earlier on