yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Omnia 7 General] Freypal:
Personally i have found the battery life superior to WM6.1

The long loading times some have commented on I have not even noticed. Certainly not 20 seconds plus.

Just for example now i tried...

Unite loaded in 5 seconds.

Halo waypoint in 5 seconds.

Some 3rd party air hockey game loaded in 3 seconds.

Pretty quick to me.

I have found WP7 pretty good so far especially since its V1.0 and have been recomending it to family and friends.

Some things are annoying. One example would be the lack of file system access but i knew about these issues coming into WP7 and as such i don't understand how people can complain that they have bought a handset and are frustrated by it.
[Omnia 7 General] root beer:
I've only had the Omnia 7 for 3 days but I don't find the battery that bad at all.

I have switched EVERYTHING on that saps the battery from day 1 - gps, skydrive uploading, myphone polling, wifi, bluetooth, syncing with zune over wifi, etc.

I am a heavy internet user and of course as it's a new toy have been downloading all the games and playing them too and I don't see see the battery being sapped in an hour or two at all. The battery is low after about 6 hours non-stop game playing and browsing which Is excessive power usage.

The only downside for me Is pressing the search button within Internet Explorer and getting the damn T-Mobile page with the google search. I wish there was a way to switch it back to Bing as I prefer it to google.

Very impressed otherwise, especially how quick the browser is and skydrive with my GB's of photos.

If you are loosing 3G reception then that could be the source of your battery drain as It's not locking on and wasting power.

P.S. In another post you said you had sent the phone back and were swapping It for the Desire?????
[Omnia 7 General] BIG-Stan:
I can pretty much co-sign what root beer said.

Coming from a bunch of wm phones and lately iphone 3gs I say the battery is better then the one in the iphone. I have been using the phone a lot with everything turned on and it almost lasted for 2 days.

Really like wp7 and the phone except for the stupid t-mobile homepage in IE and the startup picture.
[Omnia 7 General] pLUSpISTOL:
Switch Bluetooth and WiFi off when they are not needed, also turn the screen brightness to Low, it's actually perfectly usable and there isn't much difference to be honest! You'll find the battery is fine after that. With normal phone, gaming and 3G usage, I charge my Omnia every 2 days.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scutworker:
In a lot of the custom roms threads I see that people are always asking the cooks to update the system apps as soon as a new one is released.

Rather than us users constantly hassling the cooks to do this, could somebody post an 'idiots' guide how to update the system apps ourselves?

I have seen a few threads about how to remove apps using adb, but none on how to update them.

Any help would be appreciated, not just by the users, but probably by the overworked cooks too :)

Cheers.

EDIT: by this I mean a way to update the apk in the system folder rather than the date to save space on the phones memory.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beanbean50:
One way is to open the market and click on the 'downloads' link at the top and it will give you a list of installed apps and the ones highlighted in red have updates.

Another way is to search the market or a free app called 'aTrackDog' which will check all your apps for updates.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scutworker:
Thanks, but that is not what I meant. I should have made it clearer in my question.

What I want is this: a way to update the applications so that the updated apk goes into the system folder rather than the data folder. That way the update doesn't take up any more of the precious space on my phone.

I'll edit the OP to show this.

But thanks anyway for your help.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prodygee:
Don't you mean the fact that certain apps included in roms cant be updated. Only possible by flashing an updated version of that rom.

Wrong section.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scutworker:
No, that's not true. Often when a cook produces their own rom they will release an "Update pack" when a system app has been updated (such as Flash or Maps). For an example, see here under 'updated system apps':

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773997

What I am asking for is if anybody knows how to use adb to update apps on the system partition. When updating from the market a the update takes place on the data folder, not the system one.

Ta.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TomLeeDesire:
do you mean by example

adb push Vending.apk /system/app
adb reboot
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scutworker:
That is something like it. What I want is a guide to what to do to update these apps when an update is out in the market place. Something like being able to update the app from the market, but then move the new apk to the system folder so to save space on data.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Thing is, if you're using a cooked ROM you're likely to be using A2SD+ which makes the need to not have system updates redundant as you've got your EXT partition. The other way would just be to edit the original ZIP file and reflash the ROM without a wipe
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teorouge:
That is not entirely true, even though I sport A2SD+ (and it's 1/3 free) my /data is always begging for room... I'm always at the 15MB-free-limit. :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Then you've either got a LOT of apps storing data or something's not right
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madd0g:
Small dirty 0.1beta guide

I'll use teppic's update zip as example (hope he doesn't mind), sample of his updateapps.zip can be found in this thread -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773997

1. Install the update from Market, then open Appmonster and backup it on SD. After that, uninstall the update, to free up space.

2. Open the update.zip with WinRar (don't unpack it), you'll see 2 folders

META-INF

system

Open the inside of META-INF till you get to update-script and open it for editing, here's the example:

show_progress 0.1 0

delete SYSTEM:app/YouTube.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/YouTube.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/Facebook.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Facebook.odex

delete_recursive DATA:data/com.android.vending

copy_dir PACKAGE:system SYSTEM:
set_perm_recursive 0 0 0755 0644 SYSTEM:app

show_progress 0.1 10

Replace/add/remove .apk's (you can add .apk without .odex) in this list, as those commands will delete existing apps from /system/app on phone

The rest of the script will copy the content of the other folder you saw before (system with subfolder app), so you want to add/remove apk's you like to there. Remember to use WinRar's function to add the file to archive, everything done here's is inside of the archive. When you're done, save the update-script, check everything again and close WinRar.

3. Flash the zip ;]
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Franz Jakob Tim:
or do it manually:

h_ttp://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/8067-how-to-manually-update-system-apps/
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teorouge:
I do think A LOT fits (about 300 apps installed)... :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scutworker:
That's exactly what I wanted.

Thanks for the help, everybody.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gosa:
Does this work on a Rooted (Unrevoked) phone with HTC's Original Froyo?

- I've been following teppic74's thread for some time now, and for every app that get an updated I get closer to flashing his ROM... but if I can just update my apps I wouldn't have to go through the process of reinstalling everything else after...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madd0g:
Sure thing.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gosa:
Nice!

That means my weekend is saved, I 'm gonna give myself some updates!

- Thanks!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scutworker:
One thing...if using the push and pull commands in adb to move the apk files to the system partition, what happens to the .odex files? Do you move them as well?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madd0g:
.odex files are only on some custom rom's, you probably dont have them.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gosa:
Hello again...

I kind of never got around to doing this last weekend - both because lack of time but also because the more I read the more worries I have. (Don't know when I lost my "gung ho" attitude, but age seems to turn me into a chicken...)

Anyway - I wanted to ask one important question.

How do I keep an eye on the space I have available for updating my apps? What if the updates are so much larger than the apps I'm replacing, what will happen then?

I read in teppic74's thread that he recommended some adjustments to save space, but how do I know what I have to "play" with? Is there a good app to read available space in "system"?

Thanks in advance,

gosa
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schiznik:
The latest version of titanium backup will move updates to /system
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gosa:
Yeah... but:

I might be wrong here, but that only seems to apply if you're S-OFF.

I've read a lot of posts from users that tried to use Titanium Backup without S-OFF having to revert to backups...
[Nexus One General] dl.zerocool:
Hi there a good news for responsiveness.

A patch of 200 lines have been checked and approved by Linus, improving greatly responsiveness maybe it should be interesting to test it on our phones.

News and links available here.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Holy hell, thats a monumental difference!
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
Awesome, I HATE how laggy my Nexus One gets when I'm compiling the kernel with 64 threads.
[Nexus One General] intersectRaven:
Integrated it into my latest kernel build...hasn't tested it out yet though... ;)
[Nexus One General] dl.zerocool:
Cool :D Can't wait to get my hands on this, (But have no time right now) .
[Nexus One General] dl.zerocool:
Tested with new Rodriguez rom + intersectRaven kernel,

the new room is really nice to use, and the reactivity is awesome !

Really amazing, feel a huge difference in multitasking and fluidity.

Tried with the Miui browser included in the room, the web pages render time are really surprising really nice.
[Nexus One General] fallingd0wn:
What is the name of the IR kernel you used?
[Nexus One General] dl.zerocool:
http://www.mediafire.com/intersectRaven

2.6.35.8_AVS-CM-NOBOOST_CFS_20101116_2127.zip
[Nexus One General] britoso:
so... does this take care of the "Cannot find CPU Subsystem.." (something like this) errors in the logcat when the CPU is pegged ?
[Nexus One General] b1337:
buttery smooth!! thanks!!
[Nexus One General] vivanshah:
holy ****. so smooth. got 22fps in nenamark
[Nexus One General] britoso:
Doubt thats related as this particular fix is about scheduling.

I get 21.7 FPS @1113, old 2.6.35.7 CM kernel
[Nexus One General] elmerendeiro:
I'm not seeing any improvement actually...
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
What benchmarks would this show up in on the n1?
[Nexus One General] dl.zerocool:
There's no benchmark about responsiveness or latency of the system at the moment.

But you really can feel it with multitasking.

I've nimbuzz, Skype, tweetdeck, Gmail, Ms email etc everything always ON.

I switch a lot between applications and so I really fell the difference not freeze while switching between browser and calandar music etc.

My nexus one is clearly under heavy usage with me all the time.

So since there's no benches I cannot tell exactly how good it is. But phoronix speak about

-10% lag

+60% responsiveness

Which is awesome! Even just half of that would be excellent!
[Nexus One General] teh_lorax:
What is wrong with you people??? If you can only see it in a benchmark, who cares?
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
Nothing wrong with me, would just like to see some real stats, its way too easy to think things "feel faster" especially if you are expecting them to, just like some people feel certain UV kernels have longer life than others, unless you actually do the numbers(which was done), it is really just what people "feel", and that is extremely unreliable.
[Nexus One General] charnsingh_online:
IntersectRaven - how did u integrate the patch, i am unable to integrate it cleanly
[Nexus One General] ardatdat:
Great!

Applied to PureFroyo kernel. Let's test.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=820172
[Nexus One General] charnsingh_online:
got it to compile, now testing
[Nexus One General] gvoima:
Does it affect scrolling with the default browser on a page that has a lot of images, while loading and after?
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
Does indeed seem to make a difference, on the latest IR kernel.

Thanks!
[Nexus One General] redstar3894:
Kernels

I've compiled this scheduler update/upgrade into the kernels I've been making for MicroMod's Hybrid Sense ROM... It should work on other ROMs as well, I just haven't had time to test...

See my posts in MicroMod's thread for more info:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9257216&postcount=1487

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9238741&postcount=1439

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9136479&postcount=1289

Here's a recap of what I've done:

2.6.35 Kernel

AVS (Adaptive Voltage Scaling)

Based off IR's Source (shoutout to IR! Thanks dude! :D)

Improvements from cyanogen's cm-exp testing branch

Not OC'd

Other misc mods and cool stuff :p

I'll be doing some more testing but it appears that these kernels *should* work with most ROMs... :cool:

Here are the links:

2.6.35.8_AVS-925mV_CFS_20101116_2323

2.6.35.8_AVS-925mV_CFS-mm_20101116_2325

2.6.35.8_AVS-925mV-CM_CFS_20101116_2329

2.6.35.8_AVS-925mV-CM_CFS-mm_20101116_2331

The "CM" releases are using the MIUI FM radio code instead of iR's Sense FM radio code

The "mm" releases have IPv6 compiled into the kernel for better Google Goggles support... :p

I'd like to start up a dedicated thread, but I just really don't have the time right now... so this will be it for now... :cool:

See my other posts for more information... but keep the following in mind when flashing these:

I will do my best to support them but I cannot commit to any consistent level of support due to my increasingly limited free time.

Please refer any general kernel questions back to my first three posts in MicroMod's thread....

A 5.x radio is

required

(5.08 or 5.12) due to the updated wifi driver

These are flashed at your own risk! I haven't had time to test with any other ROMs yet... ;)
[Nexus One General] charnsingh_online:
I tested all the patches of the scheduler improvements, the patch 1 provides inconsistent but more improvements but patch 3 give consistent and good improvements
[Nexus One General] rcgabriel:
Wow, just tried new Wildmonk's beta kernel with these patches compiled in, makes a big difference from the 11-04 Wildmonk's kernel I'd been using (running MIUIMOD 1.7.something still, not latest 1.8).

Launcher2 scrolling is definitely a step up in smoothness and responsiveness. Browser seems to be smoother on big pages (Slashdot.org is a good test case that I use).

Nice!
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
Thanks for tipping me off on an updated Wm kernel with this mod. Running it now - sweet!
[Nexus One General] bbedward:
accidental post :(
[Nexus One General] sockan87:
Where can you find the wm beta kernel for miui?
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
The latest Wm test kernels are available here, but I have no clue if they work on MIUI. I kinda think they should, but can't confirm it.
[Nexus One General] sockan87:
The beta works Miui, but I can't say that I see any performance improvements.
[Nexus One General] rcgabriel:
@rcsockan87 I'm surprised you don't notice a difference. Are you using the stock MIUI launcher (i.e. Launcher2) or are you using Launcher Pro/ADW? The alternative launchers were already pretty close to perfect so I wouldn't expect to see any differences there, but I've found Launcher 2 to be slightly less than perfectly smooth and responsive at times, especially if there are any background activities (wifi detection, or whatever) going on. That seems to have improved with this kernel patch.

App responsiveness and browser responsiveness similarly seem better at times (principally when something else might be going on in background). But it's most noticeable with Launcher 2.
[Nexus One General] hexix:
I flashed this modified kernel on top of MiUi as well. I don't feel like I notice a difference either. MiUi was already pretty smooth and if it's any better its not really noticeable.

When my phone first started up and was scanning the SD card and doing whatever else it does the MiUi launcher was stuttering like crazy, so no magic improvement there. Scrolling long list views seems the same too, smooth for the most part but enough frame drops and stutters to put it below iOS smoothness.

To top it off my benchmark score in quadrant actually dropped by a sizable amount.
[Nexus One General] britoso:
22.6 FPS with the new IR kernel 35.8 BFS @ 1113.

(posted just for comparison, the change affects scheduling/switching only afaik)
[Nexus One General] blunden:
The CM Gerrit discussion has some interesting information regarding this patch.

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,417
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
So exactly the same...
[Nexus One General] redstar3894:
Exactly.... Chris Soyars makes an excellent point, the way Android operates it doesn't allocate separate tty(s) on start-up so AFAIK this patch *shouldn't* make much of a difference without extensive modifications....

But for some reason it seems to run more smoothly with the patch than without.... idk, maybe its just the placebo effect but who cares... ;)

I'm just glad that someone else in the kernel development world besides Con Kolivas cares about interactivity... don't get me wrong, BFS is amazing for desktop use and he's really done a phenomenal job with the scheduler in general... but for a mobile platform like the N1, its not as economical with battery life as it could potentially be....

Either way, I'm hoping the improvements keep coming! I'll keep merging them in to my kernel as they show up... :p

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] liam.lah:
I have been vindicated. I was right to be skeptical of these claims of "wow its a million times faster, i can 'feel it'. Hopefully someone is clever enough to allow android to take advantage of this patch.
[Nexus One General] fallingd0wn:
intersectRaven tweet:

"HAVS Kernel updated! modified the sched auto thingee to use sessions instead of tty as per the zen commit and updated the compiler..."

Using his latest now with good results.
[Nexus One General] logicalextreme:
Now, now.

Heheheh.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arkatis:
I have the MDJ's Revolution v1.5 Android build for my HD2!

Can i change this lockscreen:

to this lockscreen?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Smygflik:
When i was playing around alittle i noticed that if you delete the HtcLockScreen.apk from /system/app, it will rollback to the default one. Atleast it did that for me.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arkatis:
On what build did you try that?

Edit: I can't find the system/apps...Maybe because my phone it's not an Android based? I have hd2 and i boot Android from sd card...

Is there any .apk to install it for me?

edit:ohhh! I get it...i must have a rooted Android version and with the use of root explorer i can do it! I will give it a try!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jerommeke:
I used "Linda-manager" to go into "my phone", there you'll get a warning if you're sure to go into that folder. There you'll find the system/apps folder. Rename or delete the lockscreen.apk.

It works fine, but the Windows-button of the HD2 overrules the lockscreen so you'll always be able to enter the phone with that button.

I'm still finding a way to solve that "problem".
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] arkatis:
Start button is not ment to be working with Android anw!

Anyways i tried it and it works but the slide buttons are a mess! :(

Basically the lock and sound buttons are in black color and i dont like them!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Moon2:
I unintentionally got that with widget locker.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
Yup i was going to say you could get that with WidgetLocker, plus quite a lot more as well.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bazinga:
+1

a plus you can skin it
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] oldsk00lz:
If you were like me, you rushed right into installing CyanogenMod. Whoops, found out there is no swype installed. What to do?

Hopefully you made a nandroid backup like me. I didn't want to do a full nandroid restore just to extract the files. So I did this...

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UPDATED 11/22/2010 - Okay, some people have requested a "newbie friendly" solution. I have created an APK which will help automate this procedure, without the need for ADB. If you have already applied CyanogenMod, then use this APK to select an older Clockwork Backup that has your licensed Swype. It will then extract and install the files for you. I have only tested on the G2.

http://www.mediafire.com/?j7dnv321ej0mrch

I'll possibly do some updates to:

a) cache swype for future installs (to make restores super quick)

b) add other extractions of 'your' saved files (i.e. google apps)

c) add more options for handling cache/files/etc.

I hope this helps. Enjoy!

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# --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

# How to recover your swype files from your nandroid backup

# Quick and dirty extract

# Prepare a staging area on your computer

mkdir nandtmp

cd nandtmp

# Copy your old nandroid (pre CM) backup to your staging area..........

# i.e. /androidbackups/clockworkmod/backup/2010-11-01.02.02.02

cp $WHEREVER_OLD_IMAGE_IS/system.img .

# extract files...

unyaffs system.img

adb remount

# Push the swype files back to your Android device

adb push ./system/lib/libSwypeCore.so /system/lib/

adb push ./system/app/Swype.apk /system/app/

# Some users have had issues with not seeing Swype in the options (possibly non read/write system?), so they just installed the APK. If you install it, make sure the lib file has been pushed first.

# i.e. adb install /sdcard/Swype.apk

# Update permissions for good measure (may not be needed)

chmod 644 /system/app/Swype.apk

chmod 644 /system/lib/libSwypeCore.so

# I rebooted, but have heard reports that it is not necessary

adb reboot

# Now in Menu>Settings:Language & keyboard unselect the Android keyboard and make sure Swype keyboard is checked.

A similar process can be done directly on your phone.

# --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hope that helps others restore Swype (or other files they desire) without having to do a full Nand restore.

-oldsk00lz
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] ranyvern:
getting force close on swype as soon as I uncheck the android keyboard, not a huge deal but I do kinda miss swype
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Stryder5:
Did you push libSwypeCore.so to /system/lib yet?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] k50aker:
For some reason it still doesn't show up in the keyboard list, any idea why?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] k50aker:
Ok, what you're supposed to do is, you actually have to install the swype.apk. its not enough to copy it to the /system/app directory adb install Swype.apk or use root file explorer click on the apk file and choose install.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] g_grey:
or you can open up cyanogenmod(unzip) and download a stock g2 rom and then just put the files in the proper places, then zip cm again and flash(i did this all from my phone ast night because i was too lazy to go to the computer)