yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Tablet General] cutterjohn:
Inaccurate battery meter kind of sucks, but it's trained me to know that it's getting low when it actually starts dropping down from 100%...

FCs: Yep, was able to get the Google Services one by opening up market. Popped up a couple of times while in there, but everything still worked, but I may as well do another re-install & wipe...

wipes: yep, I got a hung black screen 2nd reboot from going from stock 3588 -> TnTl 5.0.0 and had to do a wipe just as you mentioned.

cwm: hmmm.... I'm being a bit indecisive ATM as to whether or not to stick with their new recovery or put cwm back on... well main for screen re-cal but I guess that overall cwm has more useful functions, esp. the fix perms and re-part options which seem to solve a fair number of problems... plus nandroid backup is invaluable IMO...

Screen artifacts: noticed them appearing with various apps yesterday morning, e.g. Dolphin HD IIRC one of the older fw used to do this as well, but was apparently an nVidia driver bug... BTW: I'm still on the stock launcher.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Launcher Pro, perhaps? It's the newer drivers - I've seen this myself. The Adam has the same problem. Stock launcher seems to work fine for me.

If it's LP, I think it's a problem with that app given that it's not just this mod. EDIT: Well, that's not true. Could be that the newest Nvidia drivers are themselves a little buggy. Better speed at a cost of some glitches.
[G Tablet General] sigvader:
awesome post!!!!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Not just DBA's -- sysadmins as well. :)
[G Tablet General] tman7510:
Clockwork Recoery

In the OP this is stated: "3/11 NOTE: Using clockworkmod is a known risk - it does NOT update the bootloader which is THE cause for a lot of upgrade issues to TNT Lite 5. Imo, if you want to tread here and install clockworkmod, then you must learn how to use nvflash to backout of it. Given the issues in the last week, I would say that this is an absolute requirement."

Now that I am on TNT 5.01 is this know to cause issues switching between ROMS and flashing new kernels?? I'm coming from a G1 and love the clockwork and RA recovery images. They are great tools and can bail you out of sticky situations....What kind of issues has this recovery been known to cause???
[G Tablet General] tman7510:
more questions

Any word on usb tethering to phone, overclocking or using 4g usb modem from clear??
[G Tablet General] kozmo2k4:
The "Android Settings " trick did not work for me either, got total bootloop, had to nvflash and rebuild. Got it working by copying the thumbs.apk from /data/app to /system/app using RootExplorer, then reboot and it will show in "Input Method".

Overall, great ROM, once again, Mr.Roe! A bit finicky at first, but a few rebooted and it settles down.

Someone mentioned issues with QuickBoot app from market, I can confirm that. And Market? Had to do the basic fix 3 times before I got more apple to show.

And those with LauncherPro issues, try Zeam; it's lightweight, clean and no artifacts.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
TNT Lite 5.0.x is being pulled

I will be creating a completely different thread with a new name. This will alleviate a lot of the support issues, all around. This new build will be clearly marked "pre-release" or "experimental" , advanced users only.

There have been a lot of successes with v5, but a lof of failures are well. At the moderator's request, I'm forking off the new build to a different thread and, for now, will call it a "pre-release" until we know what Viewsonic plans to do. Given the heated issues and concerns with this new development fork, I agree that it's a good idea.
[G Tablet General] louvass:
How do you get out of this funky updater and back to CWR ;)
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
cwm? There's a post 5.00 cwm in the archives area - in my new first post, there's a link to the archives area, right at the top.
[G Tablet General] GenBlood:
Sorry to hear about the set backs. The mod was one of the better

ones IMHO .. I myself had issues, due to not reading before flashing

the ROM. :p I got it fixed with help from others members of the forum.

I've learned a lot about android tablets in the last few weeks.

I'm going to re-flash to 3588 and add .08 CWM and reinstall 4.25 ...

Keep up the good work. :)

Also, I like to go to the movies when I have free time. The movie

" Paul " is very funny and worth it. :D
[G Tablet General] makto:
Even with my failure

I read the instructions and did everything I could to get over to 5.0 and would still love to get there but have given up. I learned to nvflash from my linux laptop, I learned how to install cwm as part of the nvflash install. I even got assistance from badfrog over in the irc chat channel. I had a great time failing miserably but by no fault but for anyone but my own. Regardless of any nastygrams you may have received, I will continue to enjoy all the awesome custom ROM's you create for us. I even tried the latest vegan build and still found it less that what I have come to expect in the tnt lite ROM's - your doing great work and I may not consider myself as a master techie, I don't consider myself an idiot but this ROM has made it very easy for myself and I consider myself new to the android environment. This was the first android device I ever layed my hands on back in Dec 2010. In 20 min I had rooted it using TnT and have had a great time exploring each addition and nuance you've provide in exploring my first tirade into the world of android. I for one greatly appreciate the fine work you do and your time spent in allowing me this opportunity. I look forward to your future builds.. btw I went back to TnT after my second foray in Vegan build.. I don't just see the fascination with it in tablet form..

Thanks roebeet..:D
[G Tablet General] erraskey:
Five

So in this life you're either lucky or good - the roe's of this world are both. My experience is that lots of effort and experience tends to make you luckier!

In this instance I seem to be simply lucky. My 5.0.0 and 5.0.1 experiences have been flawless. I love this ROM and plan to stay with it. Sorry to hear about those of you who've had setbacks ... I'm sure going back to 4.something is the prudent thing to do.

In any event whatever you have on your gtab I think is waaaaay ahead of the competition. Xoom looks great, but at least twice the price. Apple ... I can't do a closed ecosystem.

I continue to be amazed at what this piece of hardware can do. Didn't come that way ..

So thanks to roebeet and all the other devs. I think I might have to move on from this in maybe 2012 or later ...
[G Tablet General] tman7510:
V5.01 to 4.25?

I understand people have had issues but does this mean you will no longer be working on the V5 build...is it not recommended that I flash pershoots kernel with your now experimental build?? What do I gain by backing out of v5....will it make it easier to try other ROMS...just trying to weigh my options here???
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
v5 is dead and the links have been disabled. It's been renamed (literally) to "TwoTapsX" and forked off.

What this means, as a TNT Lite 5.x user, is that you are now on an experimental build. I had not called it that until now, but given all the warnings on the first post it was fairly obvious that the risk was higher than previous releases.

With that in mind, you can stay on what you have, update to the TwoTapsX supplement (which will work with TNT Lite 5.x builds), or downlevel back to 3588 stock to use either TNT Lite 4.x or another mod.

I don't plan on updating 4.2.5 until I have a clear direction on where Viewsonic is headed, btw. The reason for that is because I did not want to take on yet another mod, but given the issues with the 5.x release I didn't have much choice in the matter. The bottom line is that, in the next few weeks, one of these mods is going to be retired - I just don't know which one it will be, yet.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Roeby,

I do not think Viewsonic knows either :confused:;)
[G Tablet General] WhiskeyJac:
Darn a lot happens in 24 hours :)

Over the past few days I've been following the forum, downloading the files and getting myself prepared to use NV Flash in a Win7 64 bit world. Got up this morning set everything up and did the flash back to 3588 via NV flash, everything went great. Before moving to 5 I thought I'd check the forums to see if there was any new updates. Whoa 5 is pulled!!

Question, now that I have downflashed to 3588 my unit appears to be completely stock is this correct? Will it now do OTA updates from Viewsonic?

Roebeet your work has built the GTab community into what it is so I'd appreciate your recommendation at this point. Should I go ahead and

flash to 5.0 and 5.1

reinstall 4.25

wait and see what the heck Viewsonic is going to do?

I will admit that I was very happy at 4.24 but the thread made 5.0 sound like the second coming.

Any feedback is appreciated
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Yep, you are on 3588 stock at the moment.

I called CS a few days ago and they told me an update was coming, but of course could not say when. My 2 cents: If you are handy with nvflash, then give TwoTapsX a whirl as you have the ability to backout with nvflash. If you have no idea how to use it, then either stick with stock or one of the old mods for now.

It's complete guesswork on what's going to happen, but I expect that something will happen by the EO the month. They need to release a Flash-friendly firmware so they HAVE to do something soon.
[G Tablet General] CARMELHILL:
5.0.1 good so far for me

I did it all the basic way and it looks good so far. My screen touch sensatiity mightbe off a little. Will follow both threads and watch. Haven't used 5.0.1 enough to really decide yet. Might stick with and wait to see which system gets retired.

Ultimately, would love the g tohave GPS to solve some app compatibility problems. A Honeyomb tablet might be in my near future.

Thanks Roebeet for everything.
[G Tablet General] dwkennedy:
You can use a bluetooth GPS, or there are location faker apps.

I can't see myself paying $799 for a xoom. Constantly I pray for a shower of new honeycomb laptops at a viewsonic-ish ($400) pricepoint.

Thanks be to Roebeet, gojimi, et. al., without whom we'd be looking at a tablet without market, gapps, basically anything useful or cool. I flashed back to stock just to try it out, it was a harsh few minutes before I flashed another ROM.
[G Tablet General] proneck321:
Where did the TWO TAPS thread go??? my bookmark dosnt work, and cant see it in the android dev section anymore! ??
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
thread in the general section by roebeet states that it has been pulled, and hidden. Too many problems
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
TwoTapsX was hidden by the moderators (and I agreed with the reasons)

I posted in the General section, as mentioned.

Even after forking it off, I was told that there are just too many user issues - I wasn't given too much information other than it seems that it had taken over the IRC over the weekend. I honestly don't know what these new crop of issues are, other than hearing that even backing out to bekit's 1105 nvflash image did not help and that one of the partitions was failing to flash. I have never seen this issue, but then again I'm only one modder with one device, so who knows what the differences are.

The biggest issue of all is that they are based off a non-released UAT version. If this does get released, then it's something we're going to have to deal with this. But this is still up in the air, right now.
[G Tablet General] angelis:
Widgets

I installed 4.2.5 and it seems to be working fine, but all the widgets that I'm used to running are larger than they were with stock TnT. I'm speaking about the Google Widget, YouTube Widget, Market Widget, Music Widget, Calendar Widget and News Widget.

For instance the Google, YouTube, Music and News Widgets all take up the entire width of the screen. Under stock TnT they take up about 60% or so.

Anyone else see this? Is there an easy way to fix this?

Thanks.
[G Tablet General] CARMELHILL:
GPS location fix, faker apps

Would you mind mentioning some of those faker apps to get a GPS location fix.
[G Tablet General] barakisbrown:
I think if everyone looks around that their gtablet is probably the best tablet out there right now. Yes, It has issues but every device has issues even my Evo 4g who gets 600kb/sec when its connect via usb..:(

Yes, IPAD2 is an excellent tablet but its apple. Xoom is a great tablet but its motorola who usually does not like developers.

I think robeet and other develops did the right job by removing 5.0 until its gets stabalized and I really appreciate its work so everyone could we step back and take a deep breath and just relax.

Honeycomb is coming as soon as google releases the source code which they still have not dropped the source code. It would be nice to get a fully working CM7 but thats just a wish.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Just imagine how I feel. :eek:

Honestly, if it works for you as is, then don't mess with it. Some people want to be on the cutting edge, and some people leave it at a certain revision. It seems like most of us here keep messing with our devices because deep down inside we just enjoy it.

In a week, there could be another breakthrough. Or maybe not for two months. Who knows?

Did you happen to mess around with the LCD Density? It sounds like the density has changed, going on what you're reporting.
[G Tablet General] ItsDon:
That'd be me :o
[G Tablet General] K J Rad:
The stock TnT Launcher is six icons wide. The replacement in TnT Lite is only four. Try loading Launcher Pro or ADW...
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
+1 on that. :p
[G Tablet General] cutterjohn:
Welp, I'm sticking with TTx for the moment, as there's nothing interesting ATM that I want to try in lieu of it... and no time to even start looking at attempting a mostly from scratch(well an Android base version of some sort) build, which is what I want/plan to do eventually...

There really shouldn't be any problems with TTx as it's nigh on impossible to brick the gTab at least as long as APX is still functional... just a matter of reading the instructions...

what are people doing? complaining to the moderators?
[G Tablet General] pr0cs:
That's why you *ALWAYS* wait to hear back from those people who want to be on the bleeding edge of the tech. Let them decide if updates to the software/configuration are positive or not and then decide if those positives are worth the potential effort of flashing the device and having issues.

moral here : if it ain't broke don't fix it
[G Tablet General] CARMELHILL:
Yup, that's what I learned. Sorry to sound like a whiner. Just like everyone else, want the best most amazing Tablet for $379. Keep thinking I have it until a newer, and better sounding Rom comes along. It seems 5.0.1 had reached the point where most of my missing apps from the Market were now visible. Just annoyed that it was pulled.

So now we wait.
[G Tablet General] absorbers:
This ROM contains Russian language and Russian keyboard?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
This one does not. Their future firmware (not released yet) will have Spanish and French, as well as English.

A few people did, that's correct. Too many users flooding the IRC. The mods actually JUST unfroze TwoTapsX, but we added even more warnings on it.
[G Tablet General] intech:
TTx will surely be the next step although I wonder about Cambridge. :confused:

I'm just waiting (and not complaining) until they push out the new ROM then I will go to TTx. It should be kept active but just separate for the moment. Although does it make sense for people to install ClockWork to then have to flash back?

So I can see where someone with a new Gtab might want to go with 5.0,, I mean TTx

I don't cause I have many levels of Angry Birds to go before I wipe again :p

Keep up the great work!

Come on ViewSonic, give us a signal!! People have been trying to communicate with you. This is important
[G Tablet General] booge3211:
i have a quick newb question man, if i have tnt lite 4.2.0 and i want to put the supplemtn 4.2.5 do i have to put all the other ones such as 4.2.1 4.2.2 on before i put 4.2.5? thanks for the reply
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Nope - only 4.2.5. It's cumulative, so 4.2.1 to 4.2.4 are not longer needed.
[G Tablet General] brickchamp:
Hey Roebeet, just wanted you to know i have tried all of your roms and never had a problem that was anybody's fault but mine. I guess try at your own risk means nothing to some people. I love the new rom and hope you keep them coming. This gtab was a piece of crap until you jumped aboard and now it's just getting better. Thank you very much, and remember to keep theM coming. To the masses-PLEASE READ THE SIGN BEFORE JUMPING IN THE WATER.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
4.3.0 is coming today or tomorrow

Will add 3991 /system only (not the bootloader or kernel)

Will add the GTAB Recovery Pack (more on that, later)

Will add the 3588 bootloader (this is to future-proof it, at least for the short term)

Will add a few updates, like Flash 10.2 release.

Assuming that 4.3.0 is stable, it will be the ONLY version of TNT Lite that I will support, in a very short time. Most of the old links will be pulled.
[G Tablet General] l33trican:
G-Tab available on Woot.com for $279 !

Not sure if anyone noticed but woot.com has the Gtab on sale!
[G Tablet General] ItsDon:
Roebeet noticed, his comment over there:

"Just what I need, more users to support. :P"

:D:D

This is actually a great thing for us. Lot's more GTabs on the street will hopefully mean VS gets some pressure to fix it fast.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Woot is right up there with Dealextreme and Fatwallet as a major wallet drainer. :D
[G Tablet General] Cobalt2012:
+1 for DealExtreme ( just have to wait 2-3 weeks to get my trinkets! )
[G Tablet General] absorbers:
Good news. Thanks!

My opinion on the further development.

Now all developers XDA should unite efforts and to create one universal and stable ROM on a basis android 2.3. And at once to be engaged in working out of insertions on a basis android honeycomb 3.0. Very strongly I doubt that will be engaged in it VS. Most likely under android honeycomb 3.0 the new device will be made. And G-tablet will officially support android 2.2 or at the best 2.3. Therefore at us one hope of enthusiasts from XDA.

Roebeet Thanks!
[G Tablet General] gpence61:
downgrading help

Hi Roebeet,

You (or someone else) may have answered this, but I checked the first page and the last couple of pages and I don't see an answer, so I'll ask. I'm on 5.0.1 and just yesterday started encountering multiple FC on google services framework. I'm guessing I should think about going back to 4.2.5 or 4.3 (out soon, right?). What are the steps? I don't have the CWM installed since I did the 5.0 upgrade. Do I load 4.3 (for example) to the sdcard and reboot using recovery mode (vol^ + power) then choose the new rom?

Thanks,

gpence
[G Tablet General] kekinash:
For the FC just do a cleaning on Contacts, Contacts Sync, Calendar, Calendar Sync and google services framework. It will work properly after reboot. Mine is working great (TnT 5.01)
[G Tablet General] mrackley:
Yes.. that's what I'm running...
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Suggest holding off until Roebeet can validate if stuff that got fixed with 2.03 (Youtube & other clients and very fast speed) are not compromised.

Fixing the camera and the other adjustments could be 180 back to broken Youtube-like clients and a lot less zip.

I do not use the camera, so no harm no foul here :) I will keep the current rom, unless things mentioned above are not impacted.

That said, if we ever get Skype VC working, I would reconsider :)

If the scores are back to 1800, it seems there is no compromise for balance, just a working camera that we had prior to 2.03.... camera can stay sleeping :)

Roebeet, what is your take?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
BUMP for 2.0.3 (now released). Can be layered over any version of 2.x.x, and it should work layered over the performance pack. I tested a straight 2.0.0 to 2.0.3 update, but as always YMMV.

Keep in mind that this fixes the camera for PP users, but the speed boost is lessened. Here's the weird thing -- it feels just as speedy as the performance pack, even with the lower Quadrant scores. I can't be sure if it's just in my head, however.
[G Tablet General] flipper9:
quadrantscore now 1900 after applying 2.03 over 2.02 with the experiment pack. Camera now works.
[G Tablet General] mrackley:
Quadrant score

My Quadrant score is 1825 after going from experimental update to 2.03 I think it was like 2380 with experimental update.
[G Tablet General] Linuxslate:
Updated from 2.0.0. Up and working fine.

I had not installed the Experimental NVidia stuff, but I had manually installed the Keyboard long press fix from the 2.0.2

I did not do a wipe after 2.0.3

Everything seems fine.

Noticeable speed/smoothness bump in everything, including the Nexus boot animation.

Camera works.

I've done several reboots just to check, and so far -- no boot loops.

Thanks roebeet and company, I owe you.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
The OpenGL stuff still seems improved (do a Quadrant test and you'll see 50fps on the globe). So the gojimi update definitely has some benefits.

For TnT Lite, I chose stability over performance. Whereas with the experimental update, it's the other way around.
[G Tablet General] mrackley:
Yes... I did notice the fps on the globe was 50-52...

I'm not complaining at all... :) Excellent work!
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Roeby wan Kanobi, what are the advantages? I am concerned emulator perofrmance will take a hit. PSX4Droid got a nice bump with 2.03 patch. If just a camera fix, I will hold off for a mega update.

That is unless there are other wholesome improvments in this update :)

Have you tried the Youtube client yet? That and G4 sucked real bad, prior to the 2.03 patch and now butta'.
[G Tablet General] raydog153:
Anyone try this latest stuff on CM6.1? I know at first it didn't work, but maybe this latest stuff works???
[G Tablet General] thx69:
Quadrant score 2380 after 2.0.3 over 2.0.2 + Vega Pack.

Running smooth so far
[G Tablet General] flipper9:
Check your camera. Is it working? You might have forgotten to unpack the zip file and place the update.zip manually in the root of the sdcard along with the update folder. I couldn't get it to install directly from the outer zip file, but had to extract the internal update.zip to get it to apply.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Yes, I still have my zip setup this way for non-cwm users. You need to unpack it and drop the update.zip somewhere to run it (cwm users).
[G Tablet General] thx69:
You guys were right.... :(

Took the update zip out and re-run Quadrant... 1930.
[G Tablet General] scmobileman:
I just bought my tablet earlier today and had no problem doing the first upgrade but when I did 2.03 it went so quickly I couldn't tell if it actually did anything. Is there a place to check?

Also should I remove the upgrade and recovery directory from my internal memory after doing the upgrades?

BTW, almost all of my apps and games are working so far. Basically in the short time I've had it I have found anything that didn't work or even things that are foreclosing.
[G Tablet General] cjbailey75:
Roebeet you rule

Up and running with the new update no problem other than when ni connected it to my computer i had to reboot the Gtab before it would see it. I loaded it using CWM with no problem and camera works again. YOu are the ish fosho.

Now working on my EVO and trying to get it to rec the unrevoked forever which is a zip that i need to abd which i have never done before so trying to figure that out. any help would be great.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
2.0.3 should have taking more than a few seconds - are you a cwm user? Make sure you expanded the zip and dropped the update.zip somewhere. The update.zip is what you need to use.

I have it this way as there's a recovery folder in there, for non-cwm users. I guess I should stop doing that, is there anyone still using standard recovery? :)