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[G Tablet General] roebeet:
G-sensor might be a big problem

They made a LOT of changes in framework.jar - and the old fixes don't work anymore (that was what was in TEST1). I'm trying to use the older framework (just for the heck of it) and so far it does NOT work at all.

I might have to deploy 4.3.0 without the g-sensor hack, which I'm not too happy about - it's a question of moving forward and breaking that hack or keeping the version frozen at 4.2.x, which won't really last long-term. In retrospect, I guess that hack was not something that could never be permanent - it was hoped that, with tablets like the Xoom, game makers would actually FIX their games so the hack wasn't needed anymore.

Btw, got my Xoom today - same g-sensor issue with my test game. So even 3.0 has this issue with games that are not coded properly.

Opinions are always welcome. At this point, I'm debating releasing 4.3.0 with the g-sensor un-hacked - that way, properly coded games work but badly coded ones break again (same as every other tablet out there, including the Xoom). I just need to fix the frame rate and technically 4.3.0 (sans the g-sensor hack) is ready. I could leave 4.2.5 up as "g-senor hack friendly" version, for those who really need that.
[G Tablet General] viplob:
Roebeet,

Did viewsonic have a changelog floating around for 3991 somewhere?

Thanks
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Nope - it was never released to the masses and, even if it was, their changelog is usually very vague.
[G Tablet General] vnbuddy2002:
I personally don't think that you should concern about whether or not to include g-sensor fix. At this point, 4.3 is stable enough for a full release. Since there aren't too many good games with g-sensor, we will worry about that later. However, though, like you mentioned, I think we should leave 4.2.x as "g-senor hack friendly" version.

- Kenny N
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
I've had my GTab since late November, and RTII has always worked for me (even pre G-Sensor fix).
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
It will with the TEST2 I have - the problem is that when I added the g-sensor hack, it fixes badly coded games, but breaks correctly coded ones. We had this issue back in the EO December and gojimi managed to re-do the hack to fix it. But that hack no longer works with this new TnT framework.

I am probably going to just pull the g-sensor hack out in 4.3.0 and leave 4.2.5 around for those who have to have it. That means that RTII, for example, will work because its correctly coded. But other games will not work any more.
[G Tablet General] ItsDon:
For those of us who don't play games on our tablets (me!) I say let 4.3 out of the gate! :)
[G Tablet General] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
If the update from tnt is just basically catching up to the improvements made by the performance pack, and the other enhancements done by the devs here, what is the real need to upgrade?
[G Tablet General] wheeless:
Would Love Both World - 4.3 and 4.2.5

As someone who doesn't need g-sensor, I'd love the 4.3. Since you have the generosity to also offer the 4.2.5 for those who need the g-sensor, I think that would give the best of both worlds.

Whatever you do, I continue to be very thankful for your generosity with ROM alternatives for the GTab.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
It feels faster to me, perhaps because those enhancements are all integrated versus a "hack". For example, the Settings app is definitely improved - it was very noticeable to me immediately. It also adds a lock screen, which wasn't there before

But probably the most important thing is that this is where they are headed -- even if I ignored this UAT, eventually they'll have a release where this code will become their standard.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
I miss your old icon. It was cheery and original :)
[G Tablet General] Evo8IKON:
I am going back to 4.2.5. The kids have to have their G-sensor games. :o
[G Tablet General] jwlehane:
I did not have sleep issue until 4.25. I also have started to have to manually turn on wifi each time I start up.

Hope these can be fixed in 4.3 or soon thereafter. Might back down to 4.24 for showing off all Robeet's great work at SXSW this weekend.

Johnny
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
My daughter drew both of them (about seven years apart, however).
[G Tablet General] fpga_guy:
There seems to be some race/timing condition with the G tablet. On mine, if I install the google star map, it always shuts down or said differently, pressing the power button results in a boot from sleep.

There's a thread regarding this problem.
[G Tablet General] dog2490:
What is the difference between the g-sensor and the accelerometer? I thought they were the same thing.
[G Tablet General] RichTJ99:
It works but you need to hold it in landscape. To get it started.

Or it works on my gtab

EDIT: app being slingbox that does work
[G Tablet General] LRiley:
you should install clockwork
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Roeby, will we be able to update straight with 2.03 (from 2.0), or do we need to install the other supplements first? I am on 2.0 and plan on staying there until 2.03- assuming I can jump straight to installing that.

Just as long as the storage space is not compromised in some way like CM 6.1, will be happy to update to it :)

Need my internal and microsd storage space and no need to push files via adb for one of them like apparently CM requires.

Thanks
[G Tablet General] boostenmkiv:
Rich, this is interesting. I generally always use the tablet in landscape mode and it didn't load before. I am now running zpad clean 2.x and it still doesn't work on this rom either. What other "hacks/mods" have you done to your tablet?? If you are able to get it working, there must be a workaround or something I can also do. This is a BIG thing i'd like to get working, more important to me than Angry Birds was!

Anything you can do to help, i'd be glad to test things out to try to figure this out!
[G Tablet General] thedudevt:
The "2.03" supplement does not include 2.02 or anything earlier. it is still somewhat experimental. it WILL disable, your camera. But it'll also boost your quadrant score from ~1840 to ~2440 ;)
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
It's going into a new thread - we chatted about this on the IRC and we decided that keeping this separate from the main mods would be a good idea. Consider this an "experimental" beta update. I will explain more in the new thread to come.
[G Tablet General] JonTyler:
I'm absolutely new to this type of thing and have been wanting an android tablet to get. I've thought about the Archos 101 or 70, but because of the two not having the hardware that meets my wants I've decided against them. After reading this whole thread yesterday and reading quite a few more in this forum I'm convinced that this tablet is the one for me. I can't wait to see for myself the great work you've all put into this ROM :D. Just gonna wait a little while and see if Sears Outlet gets one of these in.​
[G Tablet General] samielowe:
What am I missing on installing the 2.02n supp?

I unzipped the file to the root dir and it asked to overwrite the file.

I thought that's all you needed to do. No need to +vol + power.

Do I have to remove the old update.zip file before adding the new update.zip from 2.02?
[G Tablet General] bhrich902:
random wipes...

Just an fyi, I was gettimg ready for a trip and decided to install some stuff since I was going to be without internet (books on fbreader, angry birds, and other apps from the market). The next day I noticed that it had wiped the books from the secard, then after I booted back in a while later, it had deleted the downloads folder and everything in it, then after checking further it had for some reason deleted the cwm backup folder so I couldn't even restore back something else. It was like with every reboot it kept deleting something else. Weird. This was on the tnt lite v2 (from this past Tuesday).

All in all, I appreciate the work that's gone into this tablet from this forum.
[G Tablet General] :
I'm curious as to how you get Cal/contacts to sync with exchange server. What apks did you install and how?
[G Tablet General] techtech:
I flash tnt 2.0.2 everything works fine but only problem is it let me install chinese input program wouldn't let me activate it. When I go to language and keyboard it will not let me check the box to activate the input method Keep pop up saying it might collect all you text including passwords and credit..any idea I can fix it thanks
[G Tablet General] ehunyadi:
I went from 2.00 directly to the unofficial purely-testing and not to be trusted 2.03 and my Quadrant score went from 1770 to 2480.

Spectacular is the word I think of now when I think of my G-Tab, Roebeet, and mcb00f.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbcfA9u9O5w
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Just so everyone knows, there's no official 2.0.3 yet - the speed bump is the experimental update that was posted last night.

I decided not to use it as 2.0.3 (yet) because it's unstable and it breaks things, so I forked it off. And it is unstable, I had a lot of weird issues last night with my /sdcard and eventually had to format it - could have been coincidence, but possibly related.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I think that's a stock issue - they pulled out all the extra languages with their new firmware, which is what this is based on.

There's an update.zip in there - you need to replace it and run it like you would any update.zip in recovery.

Cal/Contacts is a mess -- there's no general consensus on what's best, so I'm leaving it as-is with 2.02. It's TnT vanilla for the calendar and I believe vanilla Nivdia dev kit for the Contacts.

Check and make sure you always unmount cleanly - your PC and even in the device itself. I don't do this all the time but it's the best way to ensure no data corruption.
[G Tablet General] :
What is strange - when I put a widget on home screen for calendar (not calendarlargewidget, or calendarsmallwidget), it shows me appointments that are in my exchange server (activesync) account. However, when I open calendar, I don't see any appointments.
[G Tablet General] RichTJ99:
Boost - I am running CM6.1 b4, & when I installed the APK, it installed the file but when I went to open it it wouldnt open. I would put a shortcut on your desktop & try opening the app with the pad in different orientations. It will open & ask for your email / password. Then your good to go.

Try opening it in portrait, then landscape.

I didnt do any tweaks or hacks at all to get it working, it just wouldnt open that first time unless I had it oriented right (I just forget which way it was).

For sure it now opens & autologs in in landscape mode.

Good luck & let me know if you need more help - but PM or we can start a slingbox thread as I dont want to clutter this thread (anymore than I did).

It does work & is pretty great on the tablet. My wife was drooling over it (vs watching slingbox on her evo).
[G Tablet General] mrackley:
how can I help?

roebeet, I don't want to feel like a leech. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help whether it's test updates or whatever...
[G Tablet General] joe2262:
To get back to v4.2.5 do I just boot CWM, point to updade.zip, clear cache and reboot?

I like the new logo and the lock screen but the sleep issue is a real pain.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Cool. Is the icon now a caricature of the real roebeet? ;)

I still prefer the original, since I am sentimental like that :)

When do you think 4.3 may get published?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Yep, it's supposed to be me. Not a bad likeness, but way too much hair. More like an anime version of me from 15 years ago.

4.3 is still on my mind - the g-sensor is holding me up, still. I'm probably going to release it with the g-sensor caveat today or tomorrow.

update.zip to 4.2.0, then the 4.2.5 supplement.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
screen refresh fix no longer works, either - that's two broken enhancements

That, combined with that fact that this is a UAT version, means that I feel that 4.3.0 is on hold for now. I know the screen refresh hex editor trick and I did try to add it to the new binary, and now it's failing to boot up.

If you want to keep using the test version, feel free. But given that we now have two enhancements that are broken, I don't feel comfortable releasing this yet.

I want to see what TnT does with this UAT -- if they keep this as-is and release it, I might need have to move forward with the broken enhancements. But,they might backtrack and release something different so, for now, I think it's best to leave 4.2.5 as the last released version.
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
If I am using a different kernal do I need to reinstall if I try the update. I am using 4.2.5.

By the way Robeet thanks for all your hard work. I really appreciate all you do.

Hope the past weekend wasn't anything bad family wise.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Thanks - more of a family obligation, than anything else.

4.2.5 is a supplement, so no kernel changes are included - you should be good, there.
[G Tablet General] baoli:
Where can the TTS settings be accessed?
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
So 4.3.0 is just an update also? No kernal changes. Just want to be clear. Usining 4.2.5 with Clemsyns kernal right now.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Technically their UAT is a full update (bootloader / kernel / system) but I only ported system to 4.3.0 (and thus the "minor" revision). I couldn't get the full UAT to boot up, although I heard that if you started with 3588 as a base, it should work. I might actually need to try that.

Basically, this 3991 UAT build is VERY different under-the-hood than anything they've done previously.

EDIT: I got 3991 working (full) - this came from another user, but you need to run 3588 as a base (including their recovery) and then run 3991. THEN, you HAVE to do a data wipe.

It did one extra reboot after 3991 was applied, so maybe the recovery is doing something under the hood that we need to actually run 3991.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
TnT Lite 5.00

Back on track - this change is so different that it will need a major revision. I have the kernel / bootloader / system all loaded now, and the screen rate change is working. The only thing not working is the g-sensor hack.

My problem is going to be how to package it - this is going to be different than all the other releases that preceded it. I have to figure out the minimum release requirements - I might have to replace clockworkmod AND everything else for this to work. And it DEFINITELY needs a data wipe.
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
Hi Roebeet, almost sounds like nvflash to base, and reinstall. :eek:

Hope all the power users are ready to help out, as I can hear lots of screams for help in the near future.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
That's how I actually tested - 3588 nvflash base, then 3991 on top of that. after the flash, the system reboots TWICE. I've done this two times already. The are doing something wacky with their recovery.

I bet there will be problems, I agree. I'd have to re-do all my instructions.
[G Tablet General] fpga_guy:
went from 2.4 to 4.2.5

It went without a hitch. I forgot to wipe data - so all my programs showed up (what I wanted).

Two questions:

1. on boot, I get that multi-color laser beam rather than Android. Was that because I didn't wipe data?

2. Why did you replace ES Explorer?

The animation is great. Thanks..
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
1. Not mine. :) For some reason, some devices show this instead of the vanilla Android one. I might change that to the Xoom one and be done with it. :P

2. I took it out because it's easy to add it via the Market, if you want to (or Astro, or anything else). I dropped in iFileManager because it's a simple app for basic file exploring. I personally prefer Astro, but again I don't like adding user apps in /system, if I can avoid it.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
I may just stay with 4.2 level, since save a few (typical) random reboots running an app every now and then, the G is stable. Got the market, full stars and Flash works :)

Pending a Honeycomb release that actually works with USB host and microsd (not as easy as folks may think- just ask Motorola), I may call it quits for now :)

For whatever reason, NV Flash does not work well on either of my systems and I do not want to get stuck if little functional update from 4.2 level :)

Seem VS has done some funky stuff with the new update.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I'm still hesitant to release it, tbh. It's going to be a monster to support and so far I can't get the g-sensor hack to work. The power users may not mind but I think others will not be too happy about it.

Basically you HAVE to be running stock 3588 to get 3911 (or the TnT Lite derivative that I call TNTL 5.00) to install. From what I can gather, something gets installed post flash, and thus the two reboots that occur. My guess is that it's the new bootloader. If you do this any other way, you will semi-brick it and will need to restore via nvflash. I even tried 2967 stock as a test basline, and that did NOT work -- it might even be the reason why they haven't released this yet, maybe VS has the same concerns about anyone who's got a firmware older than 3588.

Granted, we might not have a choice in a week or two if they release thing to the masses, but for now I think I'm going to hold off. I know I keep flip-flopping on this, but my gut is telling me that it's not a good idea at the moment.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Systems 101: When in doubt- don't! :)
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
No that's when in doubt reboot :D
[G Tablet General] dschach:
Do I have to nvflash to 3588 or is it enough to nandroid restore to 3588 (with CW recovery still on the gtablet) before trying to install 4.3?
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
Based on what Roebeet has said so far it appears it has to be nvflash as it is the recovery that has to be modified. However the question is moot as it is tentative on a 5.0.0 release which Roebeet is having second thoughts about due to the complexity of the restore process.
[G Tablet General] usafle:
Just wanted to put this out there. Running 4.2.5 with no problems. Left the Hotel yesterday and unplugged the tablet. Got on the airplane to fly back home and turned on the tab. Took a very long time to boot up.

Once it did boot up, all my apps and I mean ALL my apps were F'C left and right. Settings were wiped out, APP data was wiped out. Nothing worked any more.

Just got done wiping and re-installing everything. So far, everything looks ok.

No idea why that happened.

I didn't install anything or change anything.
[G Tablet General] ryan562:
forgive me for still being a noob on the g tab forums, but i have done a ton of research before flashing a custom rom my sister's g-tablet and have read that this random force closing of all apps-issue occurs on the stock firmware as well.

before flashing tnt lite i did this fix: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=896395 to prevent the same thing from happening. perhaps this fix will prevent the FC for you from happening in the future.
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
Happens to me every now and then. Typically it is due to LauncherPro in my case. If you use the default launcher it appears to stay stable. I typically do a CW wipe and restore a backup, and am good to go. Not sure if it is permissions related or cache related, but seeing that it happens elsewhere I will troubleshoot further the next time it happens on mine.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I might make an 3588 nvflash as a pre-requisite and make a copy available for easy preparation and also as a backout in case things go awry. I haven't given up on 5.00 yet, just trying to take it slow to figure out how to deploy. It's not like I can avoid this forever. I still have a 5.00 prototype on my GTAB right now and I'm doing some more testing.

I'm going to give the g-sensor hack another go - maybe I missed something the first time around.

EDIT: hahahaahahahahahaha I got the g-sensor to work. That's a weight off my mind. Going to test it one more time, then I will start thinking about packaging / release notes.
[G Tablet General] GenBlood:
Roebeet,

Relax .. An take a few days off. The ROM is great and my gtab is

getting a lot of use lately. I still need to learn how to type better :) .

Overall .. keep up the good work..
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
No worries - taking this slow. Just happy that I got the g-sensor working on 3991 / TnTL 5.00.
[G Tablet General] jcarlospr:
Nice, 5.00 is coming!!!!
[G Tablet General] dschach:
I know I have been lazy about learning nvflash. This will motivate me to learn how to use it.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
TnT Lite 5.00 is READY. Just need to figure out HOW to release it, that's the hard part. I just packaged my 3588 APX backup, so I'll drop that onto my first post, as a start.
[G Tablet General] rickyt63:
Hi-5 !!!

Patiently waiting :)
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
One last thing to test -- clockworkmod. It might be broken post-5.00, but I want to confirm that. It definitely doesn't work via an nvflash push, but I haven't tried an update.zip yet. I cleaned up my first post, but I haven't released 5.00 quite just yet - might not be until tomorrow.

That's a big caveat, but we'll just need to build a new cwm then - I can ask Rothnic or bekit or some pointers on that.
[G Tablet General] fpga_guy:
Did you power off the tablet or just put it to sleep before you left the hotel? I have had problem with FC in the past where it put it to sleep but when I tried to resume, it was a boot and not resume.
[G Tablet General] tguellich:
learning nvflash

Okay, I don't know why I can't make search work for me tonight. I guess it was a longer day than I thought. In preparation for 5.0.0 I am looking for a guide on nvflash or even better, a guide to nvflash on the gTab. Sorry to be the weenie that can't use search properly.

Thanks guys.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
You don't have to use nvflash - you can also use a stock 3588 update.zip. I've been updating my first post with instructions.

Btw, clockworkmod does NOT work post 5.0.0, it's confirmed. Trying to see if I can figure out a solution before I release this. It's not a deal-breaker as the new recovery actually has a lot of clockworkmod in it, but it's still going to be a bit of a pain. The main tool missing is the nandroid backups.
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
I think I am gonna need a really good step by step guide also. Everything I have read so far kinda assumes you know what you are doing.

Thanks in advance.:o
[G Tablet General] usafle:
Powered it off while it was plugged in. Once it powered off, I unplugged it.

The whole system crashed. Everything. Even the stock launcher would not stop F'C-ing. The whole thing ... just died.... no matter what I did, couldn't get past any of the F'C issues.

First time that has EVER happened to me running TnT Lite - any variation there of.

No idea WHAT caused it or HOW it happened... just hope it doesn't happen again.
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=861950

Here you go.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
This gets you to the original 2967, keep in mind. You'd still need 3588, from that point - you could have the device auto-update, as well. There are several options, here.

I told you 5.00 was going to be a pain in the neck. :O It's pretty nice once you get it running, however. I think it's the faster TnT version I've seen, so far.
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
You are lucky that this was a first time :),

I backup before I install anything, and keep a base +1 backup as I have been bitten by this bug a few times. I have a strong suspicion that it is cache related, and anytime I see a really really long boot animation (not after a new install) I know its time to pull up the backup. :rolleyes:
[G Tablet General] dog2490:
tnt lite or HC

I'm thinking of updating to 5.0 but have a couple of questions.

1. From what I'm reading the gtab has to have a certain firmware or you can't update to 5.0. Is this something I can change by updating (looked at first post) or is this a hardware issue that can't be fixed? How do I know what version I have in my gtab? Sorry for the dumb question but....

2. Was wondering about waiting for a HC update? Is this weeks or months away in your opinion?

Thanks for the great work.