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[G Tablet General] rushless:
The image must be screwed up, but Roebotizing with TnT 2.0 and then a reset to clean the device one more time (as you point out in your guide) makes the device very stable.

I think people may be forgetting that apps may be causing some of the issues. Depending on how an app was set up to interact with the framework and resources, all kinds of funky things can happen:

1. If an app is set to poll for phone, gps or compass and there is no null flagged for default, and the app expects to see a register for a hardware resource that does not exist.

2. Ditto for how the storage was originally mapped. Apps like Skyfire would crash and reset the device, since is aggressive with cache and no home to store it correctly on the previous firmware.

3. There is SILL something majorly wrong, since streaming client apps like Youtube and G4 work terribly on the device, yet Flash works fine through the web- with Flash installed.

The accelerometer and Youtube performance will probably be the top reasons for mass returns after Christmas, followed by the horrifically bad market solution- out of box.

I respectfully have concluded VS have not fully grasped the situation and should have sent an update to correct these items.

Added:

Most people are not familiar with XDA and just expect the device to work and be able to install and play roebeet's and wlawyer's favorite app ever- Angry Birds! ;)
[G Tablet General] boostenmkiv:
Great question! I too would love for this to work, but the app just wont launch!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I've been using LP from almost Day One, and It seems stable. However, I'm going to start playing around with ADW since they've fixed the grid issues(?). I went to Launcher Pro initiaally because they had a customizable grid, but that pre-dated the GTab.
[G Tablet General] xfernand:
I think you are right. It has to be the combination of apps. I have the largest number or columns and rows possible and response is good. I can fit 2 of the LP Pro widgets in 1 screen..! I'll list the apps I have on it when I'm able to recover the tablet from my kids. Angry birds is an absolute hit.
[G Tablet General] lunder:
Flash

does the browser included with this have flash support? If not are you planning on adding the stock browser?
[G Tablet General] flipper9:
It does if you install the Flash APK, otherwise not. Just like in Windows (i.e. you don't install the flash plugin, it won't work).
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I don't add the Flash apk in TnT Lite because it doesn't work - it has to go into the user space. And, tmk, I can't add user-based apks into the update.zip (and I have tried).

I suspect that this is the same reason why VS hasn't added it, yet - they can't put it in an update.zip probably for the same reasons I can't. So, either they find a way to add it to /system, advise you to sideload it (which isn't their style, going on the OTA updater for the 1.0.1 firmware) or they might add it to Handango. I bet you that the December update will actually show up there.
[G Tablet General] jtbnet:
Can't you just do the install it in system (just to get in via update.zip) and after move it to /data/app trick?
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Yikes. I am stuck in reboot land after trying to install TnT Lite 2.0 on my brand new Gtablet, just as I did with no problem on previous one.

Followed same process, but the device just hangs in reboot. After the boot loop, I applied Clockwork via microsd 2, and it CW allows me to try and install again via update, goes through the motions saying it is installing TnT Lite v2.00 and then says "Installation complete! Please reboot", but goes back into a boot loop.

Not been in this situation before. Clockwork has always been my savior for G1 and Incredible.

I also mounted the internal space in CW and re-copied the update zip from TnT Lite 2.0 (without the recovery folder) just in case the file was corrupt, but same result.

Are there newer Gtablets that are not so update friendly? Surely not.
[G Tablet General] samielowe:
Ok, First off huge thanks again to roebeet!

I finally got Tnt Lite to install and it's awesome!

I NEVER did get Clockwork to install correctly or work, so I'm SOL if this thing goes sideways... I never could find the "COMMAND" file that goes in the recovery folder.

How do I know if the 2.02 Sup is installed correctly? I installed it over the other file and everything boots fine, but I dont know if it's installed correctly.

On Market I dont get many of the listings, IE Angry Birds....

I read through 100's of posting and didnt really understand if there was a fix for market or now. I thought the 2.02 sup was a fix, but same issue with market after the install. (That's why I'm not sure if it installed)

I'm completely new to the Android format so I'm learning on the fly....

So far everthing appears to work fine, AMAZING...

This thing was going back to Sears before I flashed the firmware. Now I think it has possibilities...

Any suggestions for Market and the Command file for Clockwork would be appreciated...

Sammie
[G Tablet General] ehunyadi:
Congrats on making it run. It sure is awesome, isn't it?

Anyway, you probably missed this on the first page of this thread: "Google Marketplace has been added. It is crippled by default, but it's fixable with this hack: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=845175 ."
[G Tablet General] ehunyadi:
Maybe you need to do the new partition setup?
[G Tablet General] rushless:
I tried to also install the vanilla rom too and no luck. My tolerance is low, so I am more inclined to return it. Not seeing why the device is doing this. Not been stuck before with two years of Android root fun under the belt.

Boot loop city. Maybe there is something different in the newer versions?

When saying "my tolerance is low", the point is I did not have these issues with the first device and would not be going through this now if I trusted that the bigger issues would be fixed and $400 is a good

investment (I would not have returned the first one).

I will try several things though before giving up :)

Update

Vanilla did not work, so tried TnT Lite 1.02. That worked, but to install TnT 2.0, I had to add the recovery directory back in root, since CW no longer worked. At least TnT 2.0 installed THIS time.

Still do not get why it did not work, out of box. TnT 1.02 worked fine with the first Gtablet.... Weird.
[G Tablet General] mrackley:
1.03 issues

Wow.. 32 pages of responses... tried to look through them and see if anyone had the same problems I'm having... just flashed to 1.03 that's on the head of this thread... flashed fine however Angry Birds and Pocket Legends no longer work, won't install, and won't recover from my Titanium backup?

Also, I can see /mnt/sdcard2 and browse to it, but MortPlayer no longer can see it to play audio off of it...

Is anyone else having these issues? Everything else seems to be working great so far...

Thanks again for all the hard work, let me know how to donate so I can contribute.
[G Tablet General] Don Lettrich:
Same thing happened to me. Just use CW recovery to format storage and partition it. Found it on a thread here or tegratabs. Mine was all of two hours old and I thought it was bricked. Formatting resurrected it!
[G Tablet General] mrackley:
TnT Lite 2.0 link...

Must have missed the post with the 2.0 link, here it is if you didn't see it like me:

http://www.mediafire.com/?f7pd9lxqduo09o7
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
does this fix also give the 3D view of buildings? and the better zooming, like instead of zooming in chunks? the zooming is what i care about the most. i hate it when it snaps to specified zoom levels only. defeats the purpose of pinch-to-zoom.
[G Tablet General] atakapa:
Yes, although it's not perfect (multi-touch can get a little wonky sometimes), it works well enough.:)

Remember, we're all still working with an OS not optimized for tablet sized screens. Honeycomb can't come soon enough. Hope it's worth the wait.
[G Tablet General] jwischka:
The main issue in our case is telling Android to load the new OpenGL drivers that are required for the Maps 5.0 update to do fun things. The multitouch.distinct.xml is also a good call, but not sufficient in itself.

At the end of the day, though atakapa is correct - Honeycomb can't come soon enough. Like tomorrow.
[G Tablet General] witkowskipe:
It is also possible that the Gtab does not put enough power out the usb port to power the HDD if it is a usb only powered one right?
[G Tablet General] ellis125:
Yeah I'm not sure how to test if thats the problem tho
[G Tablet General] RojasTKD:
I had a external USB HDD (1 TB) that would not work when pluged into my tablet. It did however work when I tried it with the dock (with the dock pluged in of course). My other HDD (500 GB) did work pluged directly into the g tablet.

It may be related to a power issue.
[G Tablet General] RojasTKD:
Thanks... It worked, Google Maps is a little more functional now.

Now if I could get Navigon Mobile Navigator to work (just FCs on start), I'd be a happy camper.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I'm almost certain that it's powered related. I have two USB drives and they don't work -- but, I suspect that the juice it needs to work is just below what the port is allowing. They have an AC adapter plug but of course I don't have one.
[G Tablet General] aboad20:
Do you make any changes on libwebcore.so , or it's build from source ?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
It's stock.
[G Tablet General] LuisB3:
Problem - I was setting up a third tablet last night and decided to use Z4Root for the 1st time. But instead of copying the update and recovery folder for Clockwork MOD to the G Tablet, I copied the latest TNT Lite ROM files. So I walked away, came back and blindly rebooted to find the ROM installed. I did not get to install Clockwork MOD first so then I rebooted and am now in a boot loop. I searched for answers under Z4Root but didn't find anything about boot loops. Anyone have any suggestions?

The more I search the more it sounds like I may be the 1% out of 99% unbrickable claim. I think my only hope is running files from my external SD card somehow.
[G Tablet General] LuisB3:
Might have found my answer:

I had a similar problem twice today (installed TnT Lite 2.02 and ran into boot loops). Here's how I recovered. Results may vary, so use at your own risk:

1. Download the vanilla restore from http://forum.tegratab.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16 (this is just to get the recovery\console file unless you want to manually create it).

2. Download the updated stock TnT from http://xdaforums.com/show...8&postcount=35

3. Extract the "recovery" folder from gtab_full_vanilla_system_2010_11_09.zip downloaded in step 1.

4. In the recovery folder there is a file called "command" with no extension. Open this file with a text editor (eg. notepad) and edit the line so "SDCARD" says "SDCARD2" instead. Save it and ensure you do not add any extension. It should look like this:

--update_package=SDCARD2:/update.zip

5. Rename the "update-smb_a1002-2967-user.zip" from step 2 to "update.zip".

6. Copy the entire recovery folder with the edited "command" file from step 4 and the "update.zip" from step 5 to the root of your MicroSD card. It's important that the contents on the root of your MicroSD ends up with:

/update.zip

/recovery/command

7. Put the MicroSD in your gTablet.

8. Power on while holding the Volume Up button until you see a message regarding recovery.

9. You should see a graphic showing package box with a progress bar after a short time.

10. Wait until it completes and the unit will restart.

11. If all goes well, you should be back to stock TnT with the last OTA update.

I will report back soon....in the meantime if there is another preferred fix please let me know. thanks.
[G Tablet General] LuisB3:
Got it fixed using the external SD card from the thread. Yes!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Awesome!!!
[G Tablet General] proneck321:
Random Re-boot

After installing the 4.2.1 supplemental on my 4.2 build I noticed some random reboots to the X and Titanim starting FCing on me on startup, went back to 4.2 and am running smooth. No Kernel patches either. Anyone else have similar issues?

On a positive note... thanks again for all of your work Roe!
[G Tablet General] xguntherc:
looks like things are still going good in the G-tab area.. I might buy it again today. How is the software coming along? any issues like the first month? or is everything basically ironed out?
[G Tablet General] kampf:
I've had mine for just over 10 days and I'm still considering taking it back.

This is not a consistent experience like it is on the phone side. It's as a result of the number of different ROMs, but it's also a new platform (Tegra 2), and this is a device that Google has no interest in letting in to the Market, so Market use is a hack, plain and simple.

It's being ironed out, but it's not there yet.
[G Tablet General] bblackmoor:
I am using the Vegan ROM, and I am thrilled. I bought and then sold or returned two other Android tablets** before buying the Viewsonic G. Your mileage may vary, of course.

**a Zenithink 180 and an Archos 101
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
When you are on the bleeding edge of the android tablet market, there are constant growing pains. However the current generation of ROM's are very stable, and good for daily use. However even with the various market fixes, you will not be able to find all the apps you want, however the community is very good about making available any free app that might not be visible in the market on the gtab.

:)
[G Tablet General] xguntherc:
Well. I got a G-Tablet. one of the first on these forums with one if you look back to the original G-Tablet thread (think it got closed after 1000 whatever pages) I took it back right before my 30 day period ended because of the 30 day window, and because I couldn't flash anything. had some bad blocks in the built in memory I think.

I've since had the Archos 101 and thought the G-Tablet was much, much better built. and I'd like to get another now that the ROM's and stability have improved. I'm not worried about market issues. I can do all that myself.
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
I bought mine back in the beginning also and remember when you got rid of yours. I used to really not like this thing but with the roms and fixes out now I have changed my mind. I have been running vegan b5.1 for a while now and it works really well.

For anyone that never experienced the fun of the original Viewsonic software like we did there is no comparison between then and now. I am glad I bought mine, had thought about buying the Archos 101. I even had one on order and cancelled because they couldn't figure out when they were going to ship.

The viewing angles are still the same. Either you are like me and it doesn't bother you, or like others that hate it. But the stability and capabilities are there now. I think you would be happy with a G tab now...
[G Tablet General] ndgayan:
Nook already got Honeycomb. What happen to our developing guys?

Nook is just a e-book reader. But they got Honeycomb first...
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
Seriously...your gonna post this in every thread?
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
I really don't like your post title.. And you top it off with a thumbs down??

When did they become your developing guys? If you really want it why don't you build it?

Geez.. I am really happy with what I have been given by the people that choose to use there OWN time to put together things that the rest of us benefit from.

Complaining about developers like they are just sitting around goofing off and not working hard enough for you is just ridiculous...

Be happy for what you have. These folks have lives too....
[G Tablet General] RojasTKD:
Yes, nook has Honeycomb. A mostly non-functional honeycomb that people no one you use as a daliy OS. It's just a first step someone took for their device.

Be patient, the official Honycomb is about to hit the streets. I'm willing wait for a usuable port for our devices.

Beggers can't be choosers!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Well, since you've posted this to the TNTL thread, I will respond.

The Nook has a preview HC SDK by a very smart guy who really did work wonders, and I give him credit for that. I know gojimi was trying to take it apart yesterday, as did I. I even tried for several hours to use different combinations to get it to boot on my GTAB, with no success.

Imo, we're better off waiting for something more substantial, like a Xoom dump. That should give us the libraries needed to at least boot up HC on the GTAB.

I'm sorry to see that you feel this strongly about not having a preview of Honeycomb on your GTAB, that you felt a thumbs down was needed.
[G Tablet General] shredness:
roebeet, i really have to commend the patience and relative kindness you demonstrated in your reply.

no, seriously: you are a goddamn saint.
[G Tablet General] japhule:
roebeet, although I was sure you and all the other developers were already trying to get honeycomb working on gtab, I'm glad to see you confirm it. Keep up the great work.
[G Tablet General] geoffreywolter:
Don't listen to the haters, you guys have been cranking out great ROMs like clockwork. You've already made what was a fairly useless product into a fully functional tinkerer's delight. Keep up the great work, Honeycomb will happen in due time.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
So

go buy a nook

and while your at it try and show a little respect for the people who provide you and the rest of us the ROM's that we currently run.

Better yet "When will we see the Honeycomb ROM that you are building", if the answer is any time other than today, I hope you have enough class to realize that you owe someone an apology.
[G Tablet General] GenBlood:
roebeet,

TNTL is great :D .. I got a gtab due to all the custom work done

for it. Keep up the good work .. It's always going to be one wanting

more. I use it every day and it works great. Looking forward to future

releases..

Time to make the donuts ...:p
[G Tablet General] maxdamage2122:
I hope this hasn't been posted since I have not been able to go through the entire thread.

For future releases would it be possible to post a separate link with just the update.zip for cwm users? It would be more convenient to download the update directly from the gtab and flash it. Unless there is a way to extract rar files that I'm unaware of.
[G Tablet General] wheeless:
There is UNRAR on the market.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I've actually given this a lot of thought, believe it or not.

RAR is a pretty common format, although granted Windows doesn't have OOTB support. But you can easily install an open source tool like 7z to extract it, in Windows. I actually chose RAR specifically because of the ease of use over something like tar. And I don't use zip because I wanted to make it clear that the rar had to be extracted to be used. You have no idea how many posts / PM's there were with people who dropped my early ZIPs into their devices, thinking that it would work that way.

TnT Lite is different, imo, than the VEGAn or even the gADAM builds. It's supposed to be a fairly stable build alternative to stock, and many users who use it don't use clockworkmod. Because of that, I still package it this way to support them. I don't want to post two separate files because it increases the possibility that I might screw something up during packaging process and it doubles the time to upload the packages to mediafire / megaupload. It would be very inefficient.

I have considered ripping out the recovery portion and then having a separate baseline recovery folder zip, as that would never change and its a small size. But I still think I'd get PM's from new users who get confused on how to run the zip - so I still think this is the best way. The RAR is designed with the inexperienced users in mind, and the power users can easily extract the update.zip and rename it to whatever they want.
[G Tablet General] deependh200:
I am having a repetative error show up literally like every 10 seconds, sometimes less or more, very frequently and randomly, and I cannot make it stop. It start immediatly upon boot. It says, "The process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again." I've had my g-pad since the end of nov 2010 and have been running Tnt lite 2.2 without Clockwork mod up until today, and haven't had any problems until last night. I tried installing 4.2.0 to fix it and no luck. I am also unable to get into settings. Seems like everything else still works its just this really really anoying error / FC that keeps interrupting everything I do and sometimes takes several taps to make go away, but only for a few seconds until it interrupts again. Please help! Thanks!
[G Tablet General] raggededge:
Hey Roebeet, any word on getting the app star rating to show properly in the market? Everything so far has been amazing. Thanks again!
[G Tablet General] deependh200:
I finally found this by doing a google site search for "android.process.acore"

http:// forum. xda-developers. com/ showthread.php?t=853537

I don't really understand what he's talking about in the fix, maybe someone can translate? Thanks!

P.S.

I really don't like this site's built-in search, it is very hard to use effectivly ...
[G Tablet General] kozmo2k4:
4.2.1 runs great on both of my Tabs, stable and fast for daily use.

Hard believe we were able to live without them before ... :)

Just received my (Malata) dock, going to try HDMI to the TV.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
For handling the rar file format try:

"unrar" or "androzip" both available in the market.
[G Tablet General] Frrrrrrunkis:
Roebeet, I just recently updated to 4.2.1 and its great. One thing I noticed I that when I am in tapatalk, the on screen keyboard does NOT appear when the usb keyboard is plugged in. I haven't noticed in the web browsers yet, but did you figure out how to write that in? :-D
[G Tablet General] digger44:
deependh200... if you have root explorer, you can delete this folder:

/data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/databases and restart.

If you have Titanium backup you can wipe data in the contacts 2.2 app and restart.

If you had access to settings (but you don't) you coud wipe the data from contacts from there also...

I don't know of any other options besides wiping data in clockwork mod, but then you would be wiping all of your user data.

...good luck!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
That's interesting because some people actually want this functionality, instead of the soft keyboard popping up. :eek:

It must be TnT stock doing it - I prefer it this way, myself (the keyboard is there, so I might as well use it).

I have tried almost every Vending apk I could find, but nothing has fixed it. It has to be their framework given that VEGAn (and now the gADAM) does not have this problem.
[G Tablet General] jimcpl:
Hi,

FYI, Androzip (in market) can extract RAR files.

Jim
[G Tablet General] deependh200:
I was finally able to fix it. Sorry I missed the acore fixes in the FAQ but I am giving an update as my problem deviated a little from the ones described there. I did not have a data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/databases to delete. In fact I did not even have a data/data folder. I ended up fixing by installing CWM .8, wiping data, restoring factory defaults, and installing tnt lite 4.2.0 ( I added the suppliment after I made sure everything was good.)

If I'd known clearing data for contacts 2.2 would of done it (through titanium backup) I would of tried that first but oh well. Thanks for the help guys!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Did anyone get Maps spin to work on TNTL?

I wanted to make a 4.22, but I can't get the hack to work - it does work on the EDENx and I believe I heard that it worked on VEGAn. Any help would be appreciated, if someone managed to figure this out -- thanks!
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
Roebeet,

I am able to successfully rotate Maps(version 5.1) using multi-touch fix from post #11 ==>

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=936545&page=2
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Thanks! I'll test this out now and, assuming all is well, I'll release a new supplement. I see the build.prop change (gojimi told me about that, but then I had a brain fart).