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[G Tablet General] Mikeg1969:
[/QUOTE]I think this came up already, but it's probably buried in here. The ROM is modular -- you can add / remove whatever you want and customize. The system image file is actually stock.

So, if you wanted the homescreen and the TnT apps back, you'd do two things to the ROM:

1- updater-script file. Remove all the "delete lines" - that's deleting all the stock apps that TnT Lite doesnt use.

2- /system/app folder. There are certain apps I replace, like the Launcher, Contacts and Calendar. You can remove some, or all of them, to get this closer to stock.[/QUOTE]

Roebeet, what can I say except for WOW....I love the new rom, thanks so much!!! I finally figured out nvflash on a windows 7-64 bit machine so I took the plunge. No problems, no force closes and didn't have to do the data wipe so all my apps were retained.

One question, I am of the minority that does like some of the stock apps, I would like to reactivate some of the stock apps. In the "updater-script file", is it really as easy as just removing "delete"? Nothing else has to be modified?? Or do I have to remove the entire line including "delete" of the apk I want to install? When I make the changes do I need to reinstall 5.0? Thanx in advance.
[G Tablet General] johnkapp:
I've been running for a day now. No sleep problems - at least so far. All of my programs are running. Everything seems faster and smoother. It was a little tougher install, but after working with a ZT-180, this is all a piece of cake. If you take the time to follow the process and be sure you understand it, the procedure is fairly straight forward.

I wonder how long it will take Motorola to get the Xoom to this point.
[G Tablet General] rayw796:
5.0.0 Going Strong

Great job on ROM as well as instructions! Followed directions exactly with no problems not detailed in instructions. Have 2107 Quadrant. Dungeon Defense runs great as do all other apps.:)
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
What a day!

Glad to hear that most managed to get through it. This was a challenge, to say the least.

I also managed to get USB host working on the Xoom, which was another big win (yep, I stole some lines off the GTAB to do it - thank you GTAB, you are still the best).
[G Tablet General] chedderquest:
Can not get to recovery mode.

Great news the update went great no problems other than what was stated in the beggining of the post; to you and all the devs thank you. The bad news I can't get into the recovery, I hold down the power and volume up button and I get the words that it is trying but just sits at the angry birds (view sonic birds) nothing! I have tried the recommended fixes and been trying all day and now I am exhausted "mentally" and need some help.

Thanks in advance.

Just for the record I have not found a better tablet on the market that fits all my business and personal needs like the g tab, my hats off to you Roebeet for making a challenged tab one of the best tabs in my honest opinion.
[G Tablet General] sniffer1978:
Any help?

I decided to try again to install this rom, copy and rename the sdcard rom 3588 on, also copy the folder sdcard recovery, and recovery sdcard command, turn off the gtablet, when I turn and press the volume enters the recovery, I installed the ROM 3588, or I have to restore from the recovery rom? try installing from an external sdcard sdcard2 changing, but also: (
[G Tablet General] johnboyjr:
Easy to install. But I can not add new keyboards so I might have to go back to vegan
[G Tablet General] ctendell:
Disappointed

I'm just going to leave my gtablet alone until a HC port shows up. This rom is great but the fact that the market is less functional is frustrating. Its missing two really big items for me, Face book and any other alternate launcher. Modifying the build.prop shouldn't be the answer.
[G Tablet General] dony71:
Let me know whether it's possible to flash back to vegan without nvflash?
[G Tablet General] chief1978:
Copy the keyboard apk.file to system/data using root exporter then reboot. It will work just fine.
[G Tablet General] Evo8IKON:
Did you try the usual market fix?
[G Tablet General] joe2262:
Will 5.0.0 install on 5.0.0 or do I need to fall back to 3558? I've been running 5.0.0 but it's been a bit twichy and I'm going to reinstall.
[G Tablet General] Darkeyce:
CIFS.KO for 5.0.0

I forgot to copy the cifs.ko module out of 4.2.5 before i did my upgrade to 5.0.0. I'm only guessing that they will still work (any reason they shouldnt?)

If someone can grab thiers from an existing kernel and post them i'd appreciate it.
[G Tablet General] GenBlood:
This is my second day using the latest TnT Lite 5.0 and the ROM is

great. I'm not big on running bench marks, but quadrants info shows

1 core being used. Is the information from quadrant correct? If yes,

why doesn't Viewsonic release a kernel what uses both? Are their any

plans to add a patch to the kernel to activate the second core?

I figure by activating the second core it might I'm the system performance.
[G Tablet General] linesma:
Finally, after a couple of hours working with the ROM and Market, I finally got things working. Well, boneheaded me, I did not read the on screen directions on the recovery screen, and did not clear my user data. Once I did that, and did the Market fix, everything works great! Thanks again for all the hard work. Now if I could just learn how to read...:D
[G Tablet General] liquidcaffeine:
I've run into this as well as if the tablet timed out, I have to power it back up. This was an issue I had with prior ROMs as well, though.

Otherwise, the 5.0 update "by the numbers" went without a hitch.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Damn...every thing was working great, upgraded to 5.0 and restored all apps. Installed CWmod for 5.0, did a backup through ROM manager and.....crap, can't get out of clockworkmod. it just keeps reloading.

Any suggestions
[G Tablet General] dwkennedy:
I bet it WON'T work, because 5.0.0 has a new kernel. linux kernel modules are usually tied to the kernel which they are compiled against.

The usual replacement kernels (pershoot, et. al.) won't work either (yet)

I too want a cifs.ko, please!

and, FWIW, when I did the 5.0.0 upgrade I didn't have any trouble. I almost lost my nerve watching the initial honeycomb animation, it takes a few minutes to do it's thing. I didn't even flash my cache yet, but everything is working good.
[G Tablet General] astevens54:
I'm having a similar problem. Do I understand the CM was updated with TnT 5.0? I noticed that the text is blue instead of green and the interface has changed. What are the ramifications of the change? Also it will not reboot off of the reboot command (first line) and the only way out of CM is to hit the power button.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
If you are seeing blue then it is the stock backup and not CWmod. just use the power button instead of the home button to select.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Degraded now.....getting the birds screen with "Booting recovery kernel image" in the upper left of screen.....seems to be hung there.

Time to learn NVflash
[G Tablet General] astevens54:
So I need to reinstall CM because it was wiped after running nvflash, correct?
[G Tablet General] dog2490:
5.0 works better

I had Gun Bros loaded on my gtab. With 4.2.5 it would sometimes lock and shut off in the middle of the game. Don't know why. I deleted it because it concerned me. When I upgraded to 5.0 I reloaded it and it works great. I've played it for almost an hour (don't tell my wife) and it worked fine. Yeah 5.0!!

Thanks Roebeet.
[G Tablet General] jonnywifi:
I found a post somewhere on XDA to fix the problem that prevented me from enabling new keyboards. I'm using Thumb Keyboard (paid app). Below is from memory based on the post I found last week:

1. Install the keyboard you want from the Market.

2. Using your favorite file explorer (I prefer Root Explorer for ease of use - it's a paid app), locate the apk file you just installed form the Market by looking in the /data/app directory.

3. When you find the apk for the keyboard, copy it to /system/app folder.

4. Restart your G-Tab

5. After your G-Tab comes up, the new keyboard will be immediately available to select as an Input Method. To select it, go to the search bar (or any text field where you would normally type in text), press and HOLD your finger on the text field until a window titled "Edit text" pops up. Select "Input method" from that menu, then tap on the keyboard you want to use.

I struggled to find a solution for installing new keyboards for over a week before stumbling onto the solution above. It works great for TNT Lite 4.2.x and also for 5.0.0.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Yes, But.......make sure that you get the correct one from the first post in this thread marked "NEW Clockworkmod v.8 only update.zip (for technical users only -- NEW for use with TnT Lite 5.x.x only!)" under "other links of note".

The new one is also v.8 just like the old one.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I just got my first nastygram, so I need opinions

Question: I think I have enough warnings on my first post that this is a risk, tread carefully, don't throw caution to the wind etc. etc. And several links to nvflash for bricked devices.

But, I just got my first nastygram PM that I messed up someone's device and I didn't really warn them. So, with that in mind, a question to the floor -- is my first post not heavy handed enough? I think it's starting to look like a cigarette box, with all the warnings. But maybe I'm biased so I'd like to know what others think. Any suggestions on how I can re-iterate to people that doing this is risky, or do you think what I have is enough?

Thanks in advance.

Correct. It's the same .8, except it has the new kernel embedded in it so it can boot off TNT Lite 5.00.

Stuck at birds usually = nvflash time, going on my experience. It's not even loading up the kernel.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Oh my god....my brain hurts, but I am back from the brick and currently updating from the old image in the nvflash restore to 3358. Never thought I would be so happy to see that stock Tap-n-Tap screen.

I'm pretty sure I know what I did wrong before I managed to brick this tablet......This tablet is just about idiot proof and with enough work you can recover from just about anything....At one point I couldn't even get an error.....just a black screen and nothing else. Oh well, live and learn.
[G Tablet General] carljanderson:
I thought it was fine. I did notice the change in the subject line earlier this week to 5.0.0 and did read the first post again. Granted, I haven't gone to 5.0.0, but I felt the warnings were there.

I will say that at times when I notice a new version of ROM, sometimes I do skim the first post to get to link, and flash the way I am used to.

I guess the only way to have avoided it would have been to start a new thread and use size 8 red text???? :eek:
[G Tablet General] johnkapp:
I don't see how you could warn anyone more clearly. Warning, after warning, after warning. And, if anyone read the posts leading up to the release, it was obvious that it had a potential risk. I wouldn't feel bad, if I were you.
[G Tablet General] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
I'm sure I know who sent you that nastygram. he's a twit that doesn't read and thinks everything should be handed to him on a platter. Ignore him.

You've done wonderful work here and given plenty of warnings and instructions.

-Z
[G Tablet General] pagantek:
i think that the warnings are plenty. I'm quite experienced at flashing ROMS, and it still held me off from leaping into 5.0.0
[G Tablet General] joe2262:
If I'm running 5.0.0 (although there seems to be minor problems) and I want to reflash 5.0.0 do I need to nvflash to 3588 stock first? I'm not sure how to proceed.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
I think you have done an excellent job of warning people about the potential down side to these upgrades. If anyone feels the need to whine about the instructions all I can say is.........better read the instructions a little bit more carefully because with a little work you can recover from just about anything that can be done to this tablet or just leave it at 3588 and don't use TnT-lite.

That said....I believe it might be a little bit better if the instructions were divided into two sections a 4.2.5 - and a 5.0+ instead of the mixture of the two but and I emphasis but...a little more attention to detail on the part of the people following the instructions would avoid any mistakes and really.....don't we all learn more from our mistakes than when things go just fine.

Just to reiterate, you don't owe anyone any apologies because they didn't read the instructions and screwed up their tablet. You even provide the instruction (a little convoluted but they work) to recover.

Thanks for all your hard work and don't take the criticisms personally, it really only speaks to the competence of the people who didn't pay attention.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I appreciate the feedback! I have to assume that, as the OP, there's an inherent bias so I may not be seeing things as other might. That's why I ask these questions, sometimes.

That's a very good question. Tmk, once you are over the hump you are good - the bootloader is already the new one, so 5.0.0 to 5.0.0 should be a straightforward reinstall.

The bigger question which makes me nervous is, what is VS going to do with build 3991? Are they going to release it, or are they going to revert back to an older bootloader? We might have a TnT Lite 6.0.0 in a week that actually undoes all of this, which I won't be very happy about.

This is a risk that I have to deal with -- release a UAT version guessing that this is the path that VS will be taking, or possibly have to backpedal if they do a 180 on me.

My guess is that they will have to do SOMETHING very soon, as they still don't have a Flash version, pre-install. But 3991 has this. Given the issues we saw over the last 2 days, they probably have to find some way of forcing users to 3588 before they get 3991 (or higher) - that's probably what they are trying to figure out, right now.
[G Tablet General] novicejeep:
my experience

I had no problem upgrading from 4.2.5 to 5.0.0 use the instruction on the first page. After a day of use I do notice that the screen is a lot of sensitive/predicable.

To share with you a mistake I made. I tried to flash CWM 0.8 lastnight, thinking of doing a nanodroid backup and that "bricked" my gTablet. I had to nvFlash, and decided to do it on my Ubuntu, which is extremely easy - veryone should try this path instead of the Windows route ( it should works with a Live CD boot too)

After nvFlash and restored 3588

and I am once again running 5.0.0. again.

Thanks all.

Gerry
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
Roebeet,

Even if folks followed this thread just a little bit, you provided plenty of warning prior to the release of TnT Lite 5.0.0. There's nothing you should be beating yourself over. You do tremendous work for the community. The community itself (meaning all of us) need to take responsibility. It's our choice to install a custom version of a rom. Everyone should know the risks going in before they start flashing. The developers/packagers (I didn't know what to call your role) are not trying to deliberately brick our G Tablets. All of you are working hard to make the G Tablets better.

Keep up the great work!!!
[G Tablet General] ijustbrickeditithink:
where am i able to get just the viewsonic 3991 update?
[G Tablet General] snarful:
@Roebeet: Every rom presented anywhere starts out by saying "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK". I've never NOT seen this admonition whenever the basic IO system was being altered.

Your warnings went substantually and dramatically beyond this, emphasizing that the risk involved was such that even Viewsonic was reluctant to release this to the general public. To anyone with basic reading skills, the caveats were clear; you even provided information on how to recover if something should go amiss.

You are in NO WAY responsible or accountable for someone else's incomplete understanding or uncautious behavior, or for their unwillingness to accept the consequences of their actions; ignorance has a price, and it is usually much higher than the price exacted for knowledge.

If the person who authored the nastygram is reading this: there are ways to revive your tablet, they're spread across many threads in this forum, but it is up to you to seek them out, to ask for help when you don't understand something. This XDA community if full of people more that willing to share their skills and their help. Just ask!

Unlike many things, ignorance has a cure; it's called knowledge.
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
Here you go:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=972458

Caution, it is recommended that you install 3588 first if you are currently using a custom rom, even for this stock upgrade. Read the thread and warnings posted on this thread and the thread attached very carefully.

I followed these instructions. You can substitute 3991 in for TnT Lite 5.0.0.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11988658&postcount=3732

Good Luck!!!
[G Tablet General] ijustbrickeditithink:
thanks man, i appreciate it, i already upgraded to the previous one. i like the stock builds then i add, remove, and clean from there.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
100% correct. TNT Lite is 95% the same as stock 3991, so the same caveats / issues / risks apply to 3991 as what I wrote in my first post.
[G Tablet General] ijustbrickeditithink:
no worries worked first load and now i am going to strip and add and clean.
[G Tablet General] tguellich:
Maybe some flashing emergency lights would help?

First, thank you for everything you do here. Your abilities are impressive and far beyond what I wish I could do.

You have done more than enough to warn people. You will always have some id10t who doesn't follow directions, gets mad at their mistakes, and transfers it to you.

Supporting story: We have a cart of 30 laptops where I work. The cart has 2 cords that plug into the wall to charge them. People were ripping the cords out of the wall because they didn't unplug them before rolling the cart away. I moved the cords to eye level on the wall using a powerstrip, still happened. I made a 4 foot, safety orange arrow and a sign reminding people to unplug it, they still didn't. During a meeting I asked why they couldn't remember to unplug the cords and sarcastically asked if I needed some flashing safety lights to remind them. Yes, they actually said it would be a good idea to put lights on the cart to help remind them. Now with the light, it only happens once in a while, but it still happens. My point is that no matter what you do to warn people, they will go out of their way to ignore the warnings, then say it was your fault for not warning them.
[G Tablet General] intech:
I' m waiting a week. Warnings are good by the way.

Thanks :)
[G Tablet General] ijustbrickeditithink:
unfortunetly humans are very lazy and very arrogant towards ever being held accountable, we live in an entitlement society at every level.

it is always easier to blame someone else. sad but so true.
[G Tablet General] tedlogan42:
The new lock screen

Just went to 5.0, went fine when I followed the instructions (btw, I think you put PLENTY of warnings up there). I dig having a lock screen, but is there a way to enable a password lock? I know Vegan has the option, but I've been going with TNTLite for a while now. I don't see it as an option on security, so I'm wondering if there's an APK that can be added to system that would enable the lock option?
[G Tablet General] RojasTKD:
HELP!

OK, I need to NVFlash (stuck on the Viewsoinc birds screen), but I just don't get it.

downloaded and unzipped "nvflash_windows_20100500.zip"

downloaded and unzipped "nvflash_gtablet_2010110500.zip" then moved the files into the sale folder as "nvflash_windows_20100500.zip".

I'm a windows 7 (64 bit) user. Everyehere it says I need the APX USB drivers, but I can't seem to find them nor do they seem to be linked to by anyone.

Can someone point me in the right direction.

My only other option is to sell the darn thing to someone who know how to fix it.
[G Tablet General] dog2490:
option for the technically impaired

Roebeet, I don't know how much plainer you can make it. People are not reading through the instructions. I switched to 5.0 and followed the instructions. I didn't understand exactly what was happening but just FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS.

If I could make a suggestion though. Why don't you just put your address on the first post. For those who are tech rocks they can just mail you their gtab and you can update it. For a small fee of course.
[G Tablet General] ijustbrickeditithink:
connect the device through usb to your pc then format the device drive then unplug and start up if it doesnt load, connect back to pc do previous steps again but before removing it from your pc create a folder called recovery and place a command file inside, you will find what i am talking about back at the beginning of robeets and rothnics builds, then also copy the latest build onto there and name it as update.zip, proceed accordingly to unplug and power down. when powering up hold the power button and the + volume button at the same time until the screens load and you see it is loading the update. it will work everytime all the time. be patient and make sure you do all this while your unit is actually plugged into a power source.

i would be cautious of wet paper bags in case you get caught in one, you may not ever escape.
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
You also need to install the Nvidia SDK, and install the APX driver for USB support in APX mode. You can download the package from here:

http://developer.download.nvidia.com/tegra/files/os/tegra_froyo_20110207.msi

It sounds like you have the instructions. If not, here you go (below). Recognize that you need to substitute tegra_froyo_20110207 for tegra_froyo_20101105.

I did the recovery on a Vista PC, and I thought I read that there were issues with Windows 7 64-bit. You may want to google to verify this assumption.
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
I knew nothing about rooting or flashing before I got the G-Tab. I have used every one of Robeets rom since about 3.14. But I always check the first page for any new warnings. Never had a problem. I have not done 5.00 yet because I wanted to get more familiar with NVflash first just in case. You just need to read. Again Robeet thanks for all the great Proms. Im gonna take the plunge to 5.00 today. Any problems and I know I will be able to back out, thanks to you.
[G Tablet General] rfisher1968:
Just want to say thanks. I'm on 4.2.5 and love it. After reading about the 5.0.0 and the warnings, i'll take my time installing, and soon will make the transistion. The devs that make all these great roms is why i got the g-tablet, just keep up the great work.
[G Tablet General] bblackmoor:
This accurately reflects my opinion on the matter.
[G Tablet General] Jesse6749:
Here is the usb driver, I uploaded the file and here is the download link:

http://www.duckload.com/download/3615758/usbpcdriver.rar

You will need to install it by going to the device manager and then point the installer to the location where you extracted the files to then you will get a warning if you really want to install the unsigned driver, just say ok. I am using this on my Acer Laptop with Win7 x64, so ot works just fine.

Good Luck!!!
[G Tablet General] Jesse6749:
Roebeet- You I agree with everyone else, you could not be any clearer in warning us all of the possibility of bricking the tablet. It's just that some people are just too damm lazy to read your warnings and or directions.
[G Tablet General] stellarsapience:
5.0.0 broke Wii Controller IME

TnT Lite 5.0.0 broke Wii Controller IME support, so I'm working on going back to 4.2.5.

In fact, I'm going to need NVFlash, because doing this may have bricked it.
[G Tablet General] RojasTKD:
Butch1326 and Jesse6749 thanks for the links. I now have my gtab back up and running.
[G Tablet General] johnboyjr:
back to vegan

why i uninsalled lines and artifacts on the screen, i got the wiimote to work but only haclf the time, rom seems slower, dont see any thing worth updating for nothing new