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[Desire HD Android Development] ShadowPony:
yes, it has the proper RIL, I checked

seems that 12.62 (sorry preacher) has a better signal reception for some of our phones
[Desire HD Android Development] BenPope:
If the RIL is for bridging between radio driver and Sense, I wonder if it is Sense specific? At this point I wonder why the wrong RIL doesn't just break everything, but I don't know how the interfaces it provides and consumes changes over time.
[Desire HD Android Development] ShadowPony:
The RIL - Radio Interface Layer is there to bridge the Radio to the Android OS,

Sense is just an "app" that runs on Android

It can be that a wrong RIL will not break anything, but it can be that it will break everything (related to the radio) so instead of calling person A, you enable the wi-fi (exaggerated on purpose)
[Desire HD Android Development] BenPope:
I get that, I'm a software engineer.

I was under the impression that the RIL was only for Sense ROMs, but having never looked into this, I can only go off of heresay from ICS threads, which, at the best of times, is hard to seperate the nonsense from the facts.
[Desire HD Android Development] rixxin:
Yes, indeed. The ROM's undervolting should increase battery life, but not having the correct battery stats will decrease your apparent battery life.

The next question is: in ARHD 6.x I believe there was a script that cleared stats when battery was at 100% (with 0mA) for the first time since the flash. I assumed this script had been implemented on ARHD 7.x, but considering my battery life of late, I'm starting to doubt that! Has it been implemented, anyone?
[Desire HD Android Development] preacher65:
There was new info on batterystats.bin recently, apologies if you've already seen it. It's only used to display which processes are using battery, e.g. display 25% and so on, it has no impact on how much charge your phone thinks it has. And Android wipes battery stats itself each time you fully charge your phone. I don't bother manually wiping stats any more and haven't seen any difference.

See this post:

http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/

And follow the link to Dianne's post for (slightly) more detailed info.

Good info here http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/telephony.html. And I know that libhtc_ril.so is included in CM builds, so I don't think it's just a Sense thing.
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
No. Sense has nothing to do with RIL which functions between the Android OS and the radio hw as mentioned previously. Sense just sits on top of the Android OS as a user interface.
[Desire HD Android Development] kiki63:
Got better battery and signal with 12.62.60.27U_26.13.04.19M.

Running 6.3.2.
[Desire HD Android Development] RASTAVIPER:
Where is the changelog for 7?

I don't see it anywhere.
[Desire HD Android Development] preacher65:
There's a link to the 7.0.0 ROM at the top of the first post. ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] BenPope:
I'll be honest, I was aware of the post, but never read it in detail. There you have it, wiping battery stats is completely pointless. I'll confess that my post was meant as a kind of "There is absolutely no gain in doing more than this", as opposed to "This is exactly what must be done". I'll stop repeating nonsense then, thanks.

Ahh, thanks again. So I take it that when people refer to flashing the "RIL", they mean the "Vendor RIL". I guess this makes sense. So, again, since the Vendor RIL talks to the Radio and the the RIL Deamon (I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the interface here is pretty much fixed, or at least, backwards compatible like the SDK), the point of variation is limited to the radio interface (in both directions, I guess). I can see little point in modifying this interface in a backwards incompatible way (but not everybody thinks like I do), so assuming a given a perfect world where the Vendor RIL does not have bugs, the latest version should suffice for any radio. Alas, a perfect world this is not.

Perhaps the HTC (Vendor) RIL has additional hooks for Sense, and so in some way it is considered Sense-specific, but it also provides a service to the RILD, so could be used for non Sense (Senseless?) ROMs.

Who knows, eh?
[Desire HD Android Development] Sybregunne:
It's not all about battery stats. When you reinstall a ROM everything in /system gets wiped. So on your first charge cycle lots of data are being generated mostly default settings for system files. The system tries to make itself stable. Theoretically this should be all done on the first charge cycle. Unfortunately sometimes it takes more time than that. So it is advisable to let the ROM settle itself before you can see the real potential of the battery and performance of the ROM. If you did a full wipe then you would also reinstall your apps and in the same manner the apps will calibrate their data.

Basically that's all there is to it.

p.s. when people say to let it settle they mean to inform people not to complain about batt drain after 4 hrs or less from flashing the ROM. Or observe a few charge cycles before commenting about batt drain.:D
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
Nope, that's not how it works. It's not about backward compatibility, a radio and RIL must match to be able to use the hw properly. If not matched, you may have some functions that can never be accessed and some non existing functions that are trying to be accessed and this is never good as it can cause freezes resets, excessive battery drain etc. As far as I know, Sense never accesses the hw directly, it's just a user interface and interacts with the Android OS only.
[Desire HD Android Development] MrHarryTW:
Is it me or are Google's accounts down?
[Desire HD Android Development] marc2040:
Could someone please explain the differences between the Rosies in 6.3.x from #2.

Ultra, Super and Ultra/Super???

I´m asking, because I want to create a red tinted Rosie, but I never did that before.

To keep this thread clear I opend a new one here

Some help would be great.

Are these Rosies running on 6.3.2?

BTW: the provided Rosie links from #2 are dead (for me).
[Desire HD Android Development] Nubzori:
Well ultra is flat 2d rosie, and in super, only the home screen is 3d
[Desire HD Android Development] humanoutlaw:
Is there anything i can try to fix it? i noticed it started working properly when i flashed ROM Cleaner but i screwed up with widgets so i had to flash ARHD again the scaling part came back again even after flashing ROM cleaner its not fixing i had used default.txt with Rom cleaner can that have anything to do with this ?
[Desire HD Android Development] uwdus:
The whole point of every Sense-ROM is Sense, otherwise run a AOSP-ROM like Cyanogen... ;) But No-Sense doesn't mean completely NO SENSE. I don't need the Rosie-Stuff but like to keep SMS, Contacts, Dialer, Music player and this sort of (like the script does)

So again, maybe someone knows if the No-Sense Script will work for 7.0?
[Desire HD Android Development] craacK:
both, lukogriffioens and mikes, no-sense scripts are a little bit outdated.

the "main function", to remove rosie.apk, is given ... but the rest..

so, YES, it will work, the only question is how (you will keep ALOT stuff you dont want from sense although you run no-sense ;) )
[Desire HD Android Development] DN41:
Do a Nandroid and try it.

Then share your gained knowledge with us, thanks a lot ;)

DN41
[Desire HD Android Development] marc2040:
Thats what I can read in #2.

Never mind. I have to compare this by myself.
[Desire HD Android Development] uwdus:
Thanks for the info!

I would REALLY like to but my volume down key is broken, so I'm scared to run into a boot loop. Do you know an alternative option to get into the recovery menu without the volume down key?
[Desire HD Android Development] webslasher:
to go into recovery without using volume key, you could use adb command

"adb reboot recovery"

or using terminal emulator, with elevated right if im not mistaken we can use

"reboot recovery"
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
If you can boot, use ROM MAnager, 4Ext Recovery or Quick Boot.

If you can't, using fastboot use this command from your PC:

fastboot boot name-of-the-recovery-file-you-want-to-boot-to.img

Make sure the recovery file is in the same folder as fastboot.exe on your PC.
[Desire HD Android Development] nymikey:
I downloaded QUICKBOOT from MARKET, works for me....
[Desire HD Android Development] Nezorflame:
@uwdus,

just use the ROM Cleaner for removing Rosie and other stuff, it supports Sense 3.5.
[Desire HD Android Development] uwdus:
This works all fine if I can't boot and stucked in a loop? Then I will test it.

Thanks mate, but I'm worried about if I can't boot anymore. So I won't have access to Quickboot
[Desire HD Android Development] ShadowPony:
fastboot only works if you have ENG S-OFF

make sure you have the latest drivers installed too
[Desire HD Android Development] ABDOKRO1:
With ROM Cleaner you can do much more than just removing some stuff.

It's a "Must Have"!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] krazycanuck82:
One and I want it to live; so for its sake please stop with the eta questions.
[Desire HD Android Development] BenPope:
Functions that can't be accessed are ignored. Functions that don't exist do not cause battery drain, they would cause crashes. Hence my point about it being very broken, not just weaker signal, battery drain, etc.

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But I still don't understand WHY?

What does 7.0.0 have that 6.3.2 does not? Compare the two ROM feature lists side by side. They are identical (aside from the base and sense version).

Are you saying that the no Sense script only removes part of Sense?

Edit: Yes. I have now read the no-Sense script stuff in the secopnd post. Only some of it is gone. So I guess the "no-Sense" name is nonsense. I get it now. Apologies for the noise.
[Desire HD Android Development] ZACQ8:
Hi,

I am about to use attn1's Advance Hack kit for rooting DHD, which gives only RADIO S-OFF, not ENG S-OFF, I am willing to flash ARHD, but it is storingly recommended to flash a Radio with this 12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M radio, which I cant do with given instructions since I will not be ENG S-OFF,

Is there any problem if I use the ROM without flashing this Radio

Awaiting good advise

Regards
[Desire HD Android Development] DN41:
You can flash it via PD98IMG.zip method...I did that, everything went flawlessly.

Grab the zip here, push it onto the root of your SD and reboot into bootloader. It will check the zip and then you'll only need to hit yes - done ;)

DN41
[Desire HD Android Development] marc2040:
For me, coming from a VF DHD, this one worked very well ENG S-OFF
[Desire HD Android Development] ZACQ8:
could you please little elaborate the method because I am realy noob,

the one you gave, the link is the same which is recommended on the first page to flash..

Thanks in advance
[Desire HD Android Development] DN41:
Like I already said :P

Download the linked PD98IMG.zip.

Copy the file onto your SD card. Get an app from the market which is able to check MD5Sums - 4Ext Recovery Control or something similar. The MD5Sum of the file should be 599913d5041450b5c169f65b09b2f859 - if not, don't proceed(!!), you would possibly brick your phone.

Redownload it and check again, should be fine then.

If everythings fine, reboot your phone and hold volume down while powering on. Your phone will boot into bootloader. It will itself check the zip-file and ask you, whether you want to flash it or not. Hit yes (afaik its volume up) and it'll flash the radio.

Reboot, done.

DN41
[Desire HD Android Development] remko:
Sorry, I think I must be stupid...but I haven't figured out why this would be a dumb question. Could someone please enlighten me because I am missing it too?

Thanks

Remko
[Desire HD Android Development] Karish1989:
This widget is not in this rom :(.Mike already said that he will try to corporate it in next update ;).
[Desire HD Android Development] ZACQ8:
Thanks a lot,

I downloaded and checked the zip, MD5Sum is same

thanks again, by the way where did you get ARHD v7.0.0, I found only v6.3 in the thread

regards
[Desire HD Android Development] DN41:
Keep an eye on third post ;)

Feel free to hit the thanks button, that's what he likes ;)

DN41
[Desire HD Android Development] Dunciboy:
I'm already using this for about 1 year and recently installed 7.0.0.

Great rom it's my first custom and i will keep it my first and last for as long i have my Desire HD.

So thank you for the great rom! I love it :D!
[Desire HD Android Development] ABDOKRO1:
Seems like you have good taste (at least for flashing)! :D

So I give you a Thanks for your kind post.

Welcome on board and feel free to ask questions if you need too (as long as you first search and digg a bit in the last ten pages).
[Desire HD Android Development] Groschen:
Wrong thread.
[Desire HD Android Development] Dunciboy:
No problem I can't stand it myself of people don't search first and instead ask questions first.

Edit: The QR code in my profile goes to this thread :D
[Desire HD Android Development] ABDOKRO1:
I won't quote myself because:

1 - only Saluco is officially allowed to do so (self-quoting is now called "doing a Saluco").

2 - I don't remember when I said it before.

But truth is, it can't be the "wrong thread" because it's where magic happens, once again. It's just a wrong post. ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] vadimo:
Hi,

I tried it with 7.0.0 and it doesnt work, any workaround?
[Desire HD Android Development] Patrics83:
I think I remember.... ;)

It's never "wrong" thread! :D
[Desire HD Android Development] TeeJay3800:
Wrong thread, sorry. Long story. :(
[Desire HD Android Development] ABDOKRO1:
I remember too now, thx. ;)

And yeah, if two thread can never be wrong, it's those two! :D
[Desire HD Android Development] harro3:
How is the battery life on ARHD 7.0.0? Is it better than SmartDroid? I've done everything I can to make my battery life good, but it's still not great, I have to charge every single night.
[Desire HD Android Development] leorogue85:
Is really good! :D
[Desire HD Android Development] aber82:
what do you want more?

if you want more, stay with 2g, disable syncing at all , put display on lowest brightness and use it less.

one full day with heavy use is great.
[Desire HD Android Development] harro3:
I sync only manually, display is on lowest, and it's not heavy use. It's moderate/light usage. That's the annoying thing. I want to use my phone a lot each day, but I am restricted due to the battery drain.
[Desire HD Android Development] ken-ywk:
do u check your ril and radio?
[Desire HD Android Development] sxrsxrsx:
Thanx u guys for doing me a favor, there's to many posts for me to look for it.

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Thanx u guys for doing me a favor, there's to many posts for me to look for it.
[Desire HD Android Development] lqrt:
Edit your post!
[Desire HD Android Development] Sybregunne:
Don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. But thanks for the laugh.;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Nichie:
Gays lol..

Typo kills
[Desire HD Android Development] ZACQ8:
HI, DN41,

Through out so many pages I couldn't find answers for my really noob doubts yet, please help,

1) I am flashing DHD coming from FROYO, after flashing v7, do I need any flash of RADIO, or Radio bult in v7 will be sufficant for me?

2) Please tell me during first falsh what are the yes/no promt coming and what should be choosen. I dont need any overclocking ....need only smooth running.

3) will I be able to restore my Backed up current ROM later, which was done from CWM... any compatibility issue with Recovery of ARHD v7

Thanks a lot
[Desire HD Android Development] ShadowPony:
lasted 2.5 days with LOW to NO use, only ~30 min screen on

now it has stabled to 1.8-2 days with medium use (1h+ screen on)

I live in an area with LOW signal, so my battery drain from signal scan is high

I suggest you to make a nandroid of your current setup, install ARHD 7.0.0 after a superwipe, let the battery stabilize (give it one discharge - charge cycle) and see for yourself

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I would suggest the following:

back-up phone from CWM/4EXT Recovery/4EXT Recovery Touch (depending on what recovery you have installed), this is called a nandroid and can be used to restore the phone to the way it was (if you don't have a recovery, install one, mandatory I'd say)

regarding radios, the radio does not come with the ROM, only the RIL (library interface to radio) comes with the radio, so I'm afraid you'll have to flash radio through the many (two) solutions existing

if you already have the recommended radio (you can check in: menu - setting - about phone - baseband version (should be in one of the menus there)) then you do not need to worry about it

and lastly, when installing ARHD 7.0.0 you will get the question to install or not the OC daemon, if you do not have 4ext touch recovery, it will not install it

it will install the 4ext touch recovery, so a second install of the rom you will get the option to install the OC daemon

I suggest installing the OC daemon as it saves battery, and the default settings are rather good at it, so no need to change any settings

have fun
[Desire HD Android Development] schlex2010:
Is there a "Wake on Volume Keys" AddOn ???
[Desire HD Android Development] Saluco:
No, there isn't...

You can use rcmix tweak, whichhave included this tweak (works, I test it),but have in mind that this tweaks was created for other Rom and some of the tweaks included don't work, also it completely removes mikes framework...so its an.entire discussion if mikes work.doesn't become amputated this way.

My advice, nandroid backup and test it ,that's why you are on XDA

Send from my DHD using Monocytes, Macrophages and Natural Killer cells :D
[Desire HD Android Development] krazycanuck82:
here is the link if you want it, but saluco knows what he's talking about

edit: had wrong link
[Desire HD Android Development] TrueTenacity:
So, I cooked a mod on the UOT Kitchen last night and it seems to have "mostly" worked...

I added a battery mod, that worked

I added a taskbar mod, Didn't work (Tried to get semi-transparrent)

I added an icon mod, Most of the icons changed, except network band and signal strength

I added a bootscreen, that worked too :-)
[Desire HD Android Development] krazycanuck82:
what about this saulco, does it screw with mike framework or has alirez_sos provided us a legit option. i have faith in him but wouldn't mind some more educated feed back on this mod
[Desire HD Android Development] sigurd_LU:
There is, simply follow the thread in my signature.
[Desire HD Android Development] irisoft:
Hi guys.

Could you update the second post to include also the mods for 6.3.2 and 7.0.*, because, as I understand, now the mods listed as 6.3.* are actually only for 6.3.1.

Thank you.
[Desire HD Android Development] uwdus:
It's just the Sense version, I like the 3.5 much more over the 3.0. I've been running 3.5 with different ROMs for about 3 or 4 (?) months. It's the only point why I switched from ARHD to another ROM (right now it's http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1429942)

Exactly, that's the point. And you're right - the name of the script is kinda confusing ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] ZACQ8:
I would suggest the following:

back-up phone from CWM/4EXT Recovery/4EXT Recovery Touch (depending on what recovery you have installed), this is called a nandroid and can be used to restore the phone to the way it was (if you don't have a recovery, install one, mandatory I'd say)

regarding radios, the radio does not come with the ROM, only the RIL (library interface to radio) comes with the radio, so I'm afraid you'll have to flash radio through the many (two) solutions existing

if you already have the recommended radio (you can check in: menu - setting - about phone - baseband version (should be in one of the menus there)) then you do not need to worry about it

and lastly, when installing ARHD 7.0.0 you will get the question to install or not the OC daemon, if you do not have 4ext touch recovery, it will not install it

it will install the 4ext touch recovery, so a second install of the rom you will get the option to install the OC daemon

I suggest installing the OC daemon as it saves battery, and the default settings are rather good at it, so no need to change any settings

have fun[/QUOTE]

Many thanks mate for your valuable guidlines,

My concern still exist for the RADIO only, because I am scared to flash it, I can only use PD98IMG.zip method bcause I will not be having ENG-S-OFF since my rooting is with AAHK.

Could you please check my vession below and advise, do I really need a flash RADIO after flashing ARHD v 7?

Android version : 2.2

baseband version : 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2

Kernel Version : 2.6.32.21-g88454e0 htc-kernel@and18-2 #1 Thu Jan 13 0:25:06 CST 2011

Build Number : 1.83.415.4 CL327244 release-keys

Software Number : 1.83.415.4

Browser Version : WebKit 3

Thanks a lot

Regards
[Desire HD Android Development] preacher65:
All mods for 6.3.1 will work fine on 6.3.2, as they're based on the same HTC firmware. With Mike's ROMs, as long as the first two digits in the ROM version number don't change, the mods are compatible.

They won't work on 7.0.*, but sigurd_LU has some mods for 7.0.* in the 3rd post of his thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1384197

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Hi zaheedahmed

You have an old radio, and yes it would be a good idea to update it.

Your radio is from an early Froyo firmware. If you have never changed your radio before, this means your phone came with a Froyo ROM. According to the AAHK thread, this means that you should be able to get ENG S-OFF without any problems.

So you actually have two choices for flashing the radio. Either use the PD98IMG.zip method, or apply ENG S-OFF using jkoljo's tool and then follow the instructions in the radio zip you downloaded from the first post.

jkoljo's ENG S-OFF tool is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=855403

Hope that helps.
[Desire HD Android Development] TresPasserus:
Guys, is it just my phone or ARHD 7.0.0 is more laggy than 6.3.2 ? I experience lag on wakeup, screens scrolling, app drawer scrolling (with paging) etc.
[Desire HD Android Development] ZACQ8:
preacher65 ,

If every thing is working fine after falshing ARHD v7, I shall continue with old RADIO?

if not I will go ahead with your suggested methode - S-off tool, that will be better idea right?

Thanks
[Desire HD Android Development] preacher65:
Personally I would say it's a good idea to update the radio. Yours is quite old, and HTC have improved the newer ones quite a bit. It's possible you'll get a better signal or performance from updating the radio. Also the RIL in ARHD 6 and 7 is for the newer radio (see recent posts in this thread about RILs). But if the one you have works, then it's really up to you. :)

ENG S-OFF works well for most people, and according to the AAHK thread it only causes problems for later DHDs, that is ones shipped with Gingerbread, not Froyo. So I'd say you're safe to use the tool. But as always you do these things at your own risk. ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] ZACQ8:
preacher65 ,

Thanks mate,

You mean I have to update the RADIO before flashig the ARHD or after?

Sorry to bother again n again
[Desire HD Android Development] FInixNOver:
This mod adds more than just the tweaks. It also replaces files like SystemUI.apk, Settings.apk, Mms.apk, android.policy.jar, services.jar... So as you can see, it replaces many key system files, and although it may work, it could affect performance and cause undesired side effects.

However, you can always do a nandroid and try it out ;)

Sent from my spanking new Transformer TF101