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[G Tablet General] RojasTKD:
So I don't have to do the "improved" Market setup. That's good.

I'll just set up my apps and add Thumb Keyboard and Swift Keyboard.

I'm guessing Google Earth still is a no go. I wonder if the Galaxy Tab version would work?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Yep, I did that as well.
[G Tablet General] chstephens5219:
With the TNL 4.2 ROM, is Clemsyn's kernel still recommended or does the ROM have the latest kernel?

Thanks for the great work!
[G Tablet General] racedog:
Updated to 4.2.0. Went smooth, easy and sweet! Thanks for the update.

R
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
It has the TnT kernel. I actually link to Clemsyn and Pershoot's kernels in my first post, if you want to layer them on top, yourself.
[G Tablet General] erraskey:
4.2 Stable

Oh well, to follow from my post this morning, just downloaded and installed 4.2 - boringly simple and uncomplicated and it looks like everything works. This is depressing. Only took me half an hour total to download and install new (faster) software, do the quick market fix, retest all my apps and have the tab ready for use again.

No need to clear data/cache, no need to restore from either clockworkmod or Titanium, nothing borked .... boringly normal.

Really, Roe, by this stage you should be trying MUCH HARDER to make life difficult for us.

We should buy a few thousand of these with a better screen from malata, load up 4.2 (or wait for a Honey version,) brand them Roebeet's RevengeTab or something equally edgy and make a killing ....
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I can set up a stand outside of my local BestBuy. :D

Yeah, it is pretty boring, I agree. I want to make an "EveTab" mod next hehe let's see if someone dumps that ROM in the next week.....
[G Tablet General] bpdroid:
OK I have been on VEGAN since the beginnig of hacking my tablet. Just wondering what steps I would need to try TNT Lite 4.2.0. I know to back up my VEGAN in Clock work, back up my apps in Titanium.

Do I need to install a previous version of TNT or can I go right to 4.2.0?

I do not mind wiping all to start new and seeing what TNT is like and if I like it better, even though VEGAN has been great but heck it is kinda boring using the tablet daily and not tweaking at all....

Thanks in Advance...From a Newb
[G Tablet General] copc:
Just backup, wipe and install 4.2 via clockwork
[G Tablet General] cjbailey75:
cant install TB

I have tried everyway to install TB. I down load it to my pc then mount my Tab, copy the file, unmount, go to es file explorer than click it all it does is open several files and doesnt install. Please help.
[G Tablet General] cjbailey75:
i didnt use TB and it worked idk.
[G Tablet General] Talk2Rider:
I hope this account of my experience going from 100% Stock gtablet to TNT Lite 2.0.2 will help someone else.

I started off with my 100% stock gtablet. I decided I would let the TAP UI do its update. That was successful, but remembering how unstable the TAP UI was out of the box, I decided to do a factory wipe of my user data. Running the factory wipe after installing the update put me in a bad place. I was getting FCs all over the place. Multiple factory wipes and reboots did not seem to help. So, I decided since my gtablet was FUBAR now anyway, I would go ahead and try to update to the TNT Lite 2.0.0 (and of course, Angry Birds!)

So I installed the TNT Lite 2.0.0 using the standard recovery method. This put me in a repeating reboot cycle. :( I am still calm, I mean Roebeet said this might happen.

Following the instructions, I then tried doing the same flash using the external microSD. No improvement. Still boot cycling.

Next, I tried flashing TNT Lite 1.03 via the external microSD. No improvement. Still boot cycling. Now I am starting to wonder where I put my SEARS receipt...but I struggle on.

Next, I tried flashing the gtab full vanilla from 11/09 via the external microSD card. This somehow caused the TNT Lite 2.0.0 to install from the *internal* microSD card ???? That really confused me, but I swear that is what happened. The install finishes and holy #$% - it boots!

OK, so now I am a little calmer since it at least booted to something. Next I try getting to Settings to do a factory wipe of the user data, but the Settings app (and just about everything else) is FC'ing left and right. I can't get Settings to even come up. So I reboot - oops! - wrong answer, because now I am back to boot cycling. At this point, I could do a recovery boot (Power + Vol Up) and it would boot up, but if I did a regular shutdown and start-up, it would go back to an endless boot cycle.

Alright, so at this point I can't get to Settings, but I can write to the internal microSD card via USB. So I put the TNT Lite 2.0.0 files on the internal memory card and try recovery flashing that. Ah ha! Now it sticks and is stable enough for me to get to Settings and wipe the user data.

Sensing victory was close at hand, I also applied the 2.0.2 supplement, the market hack, and then finally - the holy grail - the Angry Birds fix!

So, my tablet is happy as a clam now. Anyone have any idea WTF happened? :confused:
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I am convinced that our tablets are very sensitive to upgrades - unfortunately I can't prove this theory since my device has been flashed more times than the local town harlot.

In the PC world, I would compare this to a ghosted PC where the image is corrupt in some way. Ever since I nvfashed my device using bekit's recovery process, I don't think I've seen a reboot loop since. But BEFORE I did that? It was ugly - FC's in stock, and reboot loops when doing mods.

I think the user data has something to do with it - the TnT firmware and my mods don't flash user data, and I think it's because it's just not possible with the "standard" update method due to how /data is setup on our devices. The Vega (also a Tegra 2) actually uses nvflash for its upgrade image which is a very interesting way to go about it.
[G Tablet General] Mike Mortazavi:
thanks Rorbeet. I did install 2.00 and 2.02. tablet boots fine. I was able to sing in to my google account and the market comes up. however the search is not working. My remote desktop client that i had purchased for my moment installed fine and it is working. ES file explorer starts but I can't open sdcard folder and it closed teh app.

is there a fix for the market?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Market fix is a bit of a hack, but it does work: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=845175

Frequent FC's, from my experience, as usually related to not wiping the user data after an upgrade. I'm not sure if that's the case, here?
[G Tablet General] boostenmkiv:
Am I the only one that this TnT Lite 2.0 still runs slow and laggy for? It seems like with the hardware this device has it should be running much better and at least equal to my nexus one phone. Linpack scores are in the 37s which seems slow. often pressing launcher buttons is unresponsive and take 3-4 times for it to register. (launcher pro and default)

There are times that the tablet sees to fly and respond instantly..then many times of lagging..

Should I expect better than this? Wipe and re-flash?
[G Tablet General] ehunyadi:
I am on TnT 2.00 an it is smooth as silk and responsive. I would ty to wipe cache and factory wipe and see if that helps.
[G Tablet General] graphicsman:
Picked up gtablet on thanksgiving. Picked up OTA update and things working much better than original firmware. I've attempted to run this firmware (+2.02 supplement) a few times via the standard recovery. Works great until I start getting FC errors. Once that happens, if I reboot, I get the infinite boot loop. Flashing back to VS stock firmware makes things happy(-ish) again. (Really glad I have that sdcard)

What seems to trigger it is a crash in the market after using the market hack and downloading a few apps. Really odd behavior.

Anyone else seen this? Any suggestions on what to try? I've been holding off on the clockworkmod in case my wife wants to return it. The stock + flash is mostly sufficient for her, but we are having a heck of a time with email (seems fixed by this firmware and the 2.02 version) and she wants a few things out of the market.
[G Tablet General] graphicsman:
One of the other oddities is that before flashing to TnT lite, the batter monitor worked. In TnT lite it was funky and even when flashing back it's not reporting correctly (and advanced battery use panel is blank). Odd.

EDIT: fixed itself after a few reboots. Funky.
[G Tablet General] jacindc:
I'm seeing it too. Am ditching Launcher Pro to see if that's the culprit. Certainly seems snappier so far after uninstalling it and rebooting, but we'll see if it holds.

EDIT: Yeah, the lag has all but disappeared. Ditch LP for a while and see if it makes a difference.
[G Tablet General] Mike Mortazavi:
I folowed the video by xguntherc to fix the market issue. Simple and worked fine.

thanks again Roebeet.
[G Tablet General] cjbailey75:
I has almost the same problems. The partition trick was the major factor of not looping. A few reboot later and the external sdcard works fine and rec. I tried every trick in the book but I could not install TB to save my life. I did the manual trick for the market using the manger and it worked.

Being in panera bread for 2 hours messing with this beast has me in love. Thanks to ROEBEET this is a IPAD killer. U can Taylor it anyway u want and its so fast. I can't explain y it sometimes works and how they fix themselves with a simple reboot.

Would like a smoother adw that is my next task.
[G Tablet General] ehunyadi:
You can get the full freeware ADW on the Marketplace.
[G Tablet General] thx69:
I actually uninstalled the "Home" Launcher with TB and and been using ADW Launcher 1.2 since.

Only issue I got was when I upgraded to 1.3.x

Downgraded to 1.2 again and no issues again since.

Used LP before and I noticed a difference with the ADW.

But that could be just me liking more ADW thatn LP =D
[G Tablet General] ehunyadi:
ADW has just come out with a 1.3.2 that seems to be a lot smoother again.
[G Tablet General] techtech:
have a quick question. i just got my gtab out to the box. (no coustom rom or rooted) just trying to test it out for few days and see how i like it. after few hrs of use. i noticed that everytime i got an error pop up and have to reboot it , the tablet will go into the reboot loope two time and automaticlly do the hard reset by itself. it happened to me few times already. got tired of it...and i follow the instruction to install TnT Lite version 2.0.2

much faster everything working fine for 30min and i ran into the same problem an error pop up and have to reboot it , but this time i stuck in reboot loope but i fix it . my question is that normal the tablet hard reset by itself or i have a defact unit.. Thanks.. i just got it 3 days ago. if its defact unit i will take it back to sears. thanks
[G Tablet General] ehunyadi:
It sounds strange that your device will work for 30 minutes and then start the reboot loop. It sounds bad to me. My two G-Tabs never did that. Perhaps you should exchange it and then put 2.02 onto the new one. My two G-Tabs running TnT Lite 2.00 are rock-solid and never do a boot loop.
[G Tablet General] ecatapano:
Has anyone been able to install Slingbox? This is one of my most wanted apps when I get the G-Tab. Or can anyone verify if it is showing up in market place?

Thanks
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
From some of the things I've heard here, it may be more common that you think. My first device, before I modded it, would reset the user data for no apparant reason. And boot loops were pretty common, as well (although I don't think they ever fixed themselves).

I still think that there's something wrong with how these things were imaged. If it wasn't for the OS-related issues, I'd probably recommend nvflash as the way to flash these devices and not the update.zip we are currently using.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
It you have cwm already, then it's easy. Just extract the update.zip inside my rar to a location on the internal memory, reboot to cwm and do a backup, and then just update to 4.2.0 (a data wipe is recommended, of course).

If you find 4.2.0 even more boring :) then you just do a restore later. I have to admit, it has become a little humdrum but gingerbread is still outta my league. I just wish VS would get on the Gingerbread bandwagon.....
[G Tablet General] copc:
Maybe we need to start a VS call/e-mail/twitter GB campaign? :D
[G Tablet General] rushless:
I updated to 4.2, but the market only shows Youtube Symphony. I then tried the usual hack, but did not fix the issue after reboot. First time having the issue, so guess have been lucky up until now.
[G Tablet General] tguellich:
Just upgraded from 4.1.0 to 4.2.0

Wow, that was quick and painless. Thanks so much for another great update. Maybe next time you should throw in a few fake errors or a puzzle before we can install, something to get our hearts pumping.:eek: Love the new keyboard. Thank you.
[G Tablet General] erraskey:
What did you update from? If 4.0 then may need to go back to 3.1.4 or wipe data/cache and load 4.2. Maybe a repartition ... seems like a lot of work, but with clockwork and titanium can be pretty quick and you're guaranteed a clean load. Lots of help in this forum about how to pull this off ...

My experience was that 4.0 was dynamite for several days ... this thread suggests that for several users it has been working well for at least a week or two. But it eventually seems to either bork the Market, lead to serious slowdowns, or otherwise create a requirement for a button entitled "Consign to Hell!" (My understanding is that the entire XDA developer community is hard at work on the CTH button!)

If from a clean load of 4.1 should be straightforward....
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Updated from 4.1. This is the first time having the issue since the hack was discovered and I have done every TNT update but 4.0 (I waited for 4.1).

I tried the hack again and still not showing the apps. I may be bailing back to 4.1 to start over.

Edit: 3rd time was the charm :)

Quick review:

1. Seems very stable

2. The market does apparently show more stuff, since G4 now shows up.

3. Q scores are about 100 points lower than 4.1 based on the same 5 test sample I did with 4.1. Started all tests fresh using Advanced Task Manager (2400 range verses 2300 range with 4.2).

4. Display shows 60 Hz in Quadrant. Perhaps a placebo, but comics seem to look better.

5. I am not sure I trust the Q scores, since the FPS are about 10 points higher when running the tests (yes, I notice things like that). See for yourselves (please). The 3D tests are noticeably faster.

BRAVO, Roebeet! My man crush continues :) ;)
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I think comics do look just a tad better, but agreed that it could be placebo. I have another post floating around where I did a visual test between 50/60/70 and also an IPS screen. And 50 looked the worst.
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
so TnT Lite still does not support keyboards, correct?
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
TnT Lite 4.2.0 installed flawlessly. Works great. Thanks Roebeet!!!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Correct - same issue where the Wii Remote app, for example, will show up but you can't select it. You'd need to install via something like Root Explorer or an adb push.
[G Tablet General] cbmoore9:
Great Job Roebeet, pretty much a broken record here. Updated from 4.1.0 and it went flawlessly as was the case with your other updates. No Market issues, loaded right up after the fix. Screen looks good, gotta do some more poking around though to give it the full test. Trying out the new keyboard. 2372 Quadrant score. Thanks again!
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
Maybe just me but I'm having a bunch of FC's with this 4.1.0 was perfect, however this one I went even a step further than my previous upgrades,

data, and cache wipe, clean install, re-downloaded all of the apps from the marketplace (after the fix), just as I thought I was all set, and was about to backup, did a reboot, set launcher pro to the default, and bang nothing but FC's.

could not spen too much time on it so went back to 4.1.0, will investigate further tomorrow.

:(
[G Tablet General] Jesse6749:
Roebet - Do you recomend upgrading CWM recovery to 2.5.1.3 or just leave it at 2.5.1.1? Thanks!!
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
the bekit one is the one I recommand .8 bekit which is in my first post.
[G Tablet General] Moonwizard:
Wow!

I can't believe I've read all 300 pages of posts in this group! Will we hit 500 one day?

Update: Flashed from 4.1 to 4.2 with CWM and data backup/data wipe.

First things....market borked..... Only showed one app.

Restoring through titanium now. will mess with it later.

Thanks to all for all this work!

Update.Update: Market ok so far after FC and reboot. Quadrant Score 2339
[G Tablet General] camberiu:
I think I just brick my unit.

had 4.0 installed and working fine. So I decided to upgrade to 4.2.

-Did a factory reset and loaded the new version.

-Tablet got into a endless boot loop, with the "X" icon trying to load, flashing and repeating the process until the tabled shuts down by itself for good.

- Try downgrading to the stock TnT. Same thing, the TnT logo shows up, screen flashes, the loop repeats itself until the unit shuts down for good.

Anyone has any suggestions or a solution or did I just bust my tablet?
[G Tablet General] camberiu:
Nevermind. Wiping user data and cache solved the problem.

I guess these G-tabs are brick proof indeed :-)
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
that super long scanning sd card issue is still occuring right? because i'm still getting that.

sorry haven't used tnt lite in a while. wanted to keep things interesting so i switched back over lol.
[G Tablet General] lcyn:
slideit keyboard

I just installedthis new rom and so far it is great. But I cannot install the slideit keyboard. Help please. When I go to keyboards in the settings menu I see the option to activate the keyboard but the check box does not respond. How to activate?
[G Tablet General] reisa:
SD card question

Updated to 4.2 with no problems -- no wipes, just layered it on. Working well for about an hour now.

One question, though. When I connect to my desktop via USB, I only have access to the external microSD card I have in the Gtab. It's been that way for several versions, and I honestly can't remember if I ever had desktop access to the internal EMMC memory. It does show properly when I use Root Explorer on the Gtab.

Is there something odd here, or am I looking for access to something we simply don't have?

**edit**

BTW, I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 as my desktop OS.
[G Tablet General] japhule:
Quadrant scores seem to be higher in 4.2. I can definitely see increase in fps numbers as the benchmark is running.
[G Tablet General] reisa:
Hm ... my Quad went down 100 pts. Also, after I installed Clemsyn's kernel -- then decided to go back to my 4.2 nandroid, I got nothing but FC's. Had to go back to 4.1 to recover.

**edit**

Went back to 4.1, updated to 4.2 with no wipes, etc -- everything is fine again. On the stock TnT kernel which seems snappier on my device.
[G Tablet General] vasuenvee:
I am still having same issue as you had.

Hi,

Can you please tell me how to fix this issue. I see only one entry in the market. I upgraded from 4.1 to 4.2. I did reset and clean cache before and after upgrade and restarted. Still no luck with the market. Can any one guide me how to go about.

How do we install the flash player in this new version to play HULU.

Thanks for your time.
[G Tablet General] ksporry:
Got it to work, but no idea how! Actually, I seem to have a lowered wifi reception now. In many public places where it had no problems before, it now struggles connecting
[G Tablet General] racedog:
All the answers you need are in the first post in this thread. I've done a ton of reading since buying the gtab. Reading is your friend.

R
[G Tablet General] rushless:
I had to do the standard market hack and reboot three times to finally get it to catch.

As far as Quandrant scores, they seemed about 100 points lower, but the actual 3D demos in th testing are about 10 fps higher. Not sure if I trust the Quadrant scores or not. 3D is faster in the tests. No doubt. Perhaps the weighting of the tests are being pulled down by another parameter?
[G Tablet General] ItsDon:
Was a die hard 4.0 user/fan but decided to bite the bullet and update to 4.2. 4.0 was rock solid and unbelievably fast but my Market borked about 10 days ago and I miss it.

I wiped everything several times, rebooted and wiped again before flashing 4.2. The install went great, Market works (for the most part) after doing the normal fixes and Quadrant scores hit 2450 consistently (nice!). Nowhere near as fast as 4.0 (and you can feel it) but having Market working is an acceptable trade-off.

Only issue (so far) is that Market won't show my installed apps. These are apps I restored using Titanium so that may be the issue although I thought I was able to do that on 3.14 and have them show up. I have the Donate version and did the Market Doctor but it only found 3 apps, said it linked them but didn't.

I'd like to get updates which is the whole purpose, any help on steering me in the right direction?

Awesome rom BTW Roe, simply awesome :)
[G Tablet General] rushless:
I interrupted the X bootloop before by holding power and volume. This got me into CW, where I recovered to my backup nandroid rom. I have also been stuck in the X bootloop (got out with power/volume) and cleaned cache, data and dalvik and then that got me out of the loop as well.

The update to 4.2 took longer than normal and for a few minutes, I thought the G was in a bootlloop, but it eventually booted up.
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
try this: pick a random app from the market, one that you've never installed before, install it, and check your apps again. for some reason, sometimes the market needs a refresh to see all your installed apps again and installing a brand new app is the only way I found to fix it.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
x2. It's the first thing I always do. The Market doesn't seem to "take" until you do that.
[G Tablet General] ItsDon:
Did that (downloaded and installed Turbo Tax Snap Tax), rebooted and still nothing. Any other suggestions? Wipe? Reflash? Whatever, I'm game - I love playing with this thing.
[G Tablet General] stanglx:
Im curious... what changed in the build.prop (without me having to install)? I noticed in the notes you changed the fingerprint. What are you using now?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I guess a data wipe. I saw a ton of apps, as well as my purchased apps.

As for what's in the build.prop, it's the mahimahi fingerprint.
[G Tablet General] scamatics:
keyboard

You talking about bluetooth here? Havnt tried bluetooth keyboard yet but my Dell L100 works perfectly. Standard usb keyboard

TnT Lite 4.2 and just installed pershoot's kernel
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
is auto-brightness broken? doesn't seem to change for me.
[G Tablet General] scamatics:
It is working, its just seems more gradual, and to never goto high brightness. Maybe a change in max and min thresholds?
[G Tablet General] witkowskipe:
Your results may vary...but I overlayed 4.2.0 on top of 4.1.0, so far so good. In CWM I wiped cache only, checked that system and data were mounted, installed zip from sdcard, double checked mounts and rebooted. It took a bit longer to reboot and then my previously setup desktop appeared, waited for everything to settle in and tested market...all good.
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
oh you're right. the changes are soooo slight. practically no difference. it doesn't seem to reach min or max. just stays stuck somewhere in the 25% range. seems like the auto brightness goes from 25%-30% only. so it is broken.
[G Tablet General] witkowskipe:
I agree...auto brightness is not working right. Is the keyboard supposed to be different in 4.2.0?