yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Android Development] Roupette:
Mike, I understand very well you and your answer (i.e. not realeasing 6.3.2), I'm sad but I understand it when I see post of guys who can do nothing except messing around each evolution of the ROM which demands you a lot of work and of your freetime! If just they went to see your work in dev topics...

Anyway please keep it up, we're not all like this.
[Desire HD Android Development] Vessarius:
Unfortunately, that's true. Spam always was and always will be, but recently amount of spam has really increased (it's only my opinion). I don't know what's the reason, but we could try to stop it, but only when we would watch ourselves - although a bit self-discipline. Futhermore moderator could give warns (if something like that exists at all at XDA). IMHO the best solution would be everyone watching himself and respecting thread's rules, unfortunately it's one of the hardest to do. Because some of people first do something instead of think...

If I offended someone, I'm really sorry, it wasn't my purpose.
[Desire HD Android Development] Roupette:
BTW Mike, confirmation code : 7DC97531MK125713F.

Again, thank you for all your great work and for your patience, and best wishes for this new year!
[Desire HD Android Development] marc2040:
Works very well for me and I hope you guys will keep on going with your stuff.

My original Vodafone ROM is history :)
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
I always had an idea to include a negative thanks button next to the report post button. That could help some people be more careful on what they post. Just an idea. ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] ShadowPony:
mmm....

this seams like the sleep clock is set too low, try increasing the sleep frequencies and see if this helps

trial and error until you are satisfied with the frequencies for sleep
[Desire HD Android Development] ghuss:
Thanks Mike & Happpy new year

Thank you very much for the Great Rom , Most of the Rom users are very happy and appreciate your great efforts for development and your achievements. Take your time.

For those who are nagging with special requests , Please limit your posts to positive contributions.

I wish all Happy new year.
[Desire HD Android Development] mike1986.:
As far as i know we'll have official ics for desire hd.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus
[Desire HD Android Development] Restorer:
C'mon. Be fair. You are exaggerating and just making things worse. Just take a look any any other threads on this forum to see this has been and remains the most civilised.

Your kind of post just feeds what you call trolls and your lectures will pass straight over the heads of those who demand - largely because most of the rude ones really are not long out of kindergarten!

The biggest mistake some of the "grown-ups" around here make in getting so riled up about these kind of posts is to assume that these posters are NOT children :D.
[Desire HD Android Development] MarcoHD:
Would love to see the ICS Rom from you mate :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Super-Veloce:
Thanks, good news Mike ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] dron39:
Mike, what about 6.3.2?

I hope you post changelog and of course ROM soon. :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Nieass:
IT WILL COME NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!

Just because guys like you ask all the time!

Man Mike got an life, he is working and doing this in his spare time.

He also has friends dont you think so? He can't put all his spare time in making this roms.
[Desire HD Android Development] Nokiacrazi:
I wonder if HTC will be releasing any Android dual core or even quad/tri? core phones this year...
[Desire HD Android Development] MarcoHD:
Maybee quadcore HTC Zeta ?!
[Desire HD Android Development] Super-Veloce:
Haha HTC Zeta is just a prototype with a 2,5ghz quadcore.. I don't think that phone will come soon, but I hope so, because it got very good specs!

But the HTC Edge could come, it's a 1,5ghz quadcore ;)

HTC Zeta

http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-zeta-another-quad-core-android

HTC Edge

http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-edge-first-quad-core-phone-revealed-images

ps. There are already dual cores, like Sensation XL and XE ;)

Tri-cores will never excist ;) 1 core, 2 cores, 4 cores, maybe 6, 8 cores and so on ;) or 2x quadcore
[Desire HD Android Development] mike1986.:
Thanks mate, very much appreciated! :) Best wishes for you too! If you don't mind I would like to spare this on sprite, I'm kind of still rejected to alcohol after New Year party :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Vessarius:
It would be awesome, I'm just curious how ICS will work on DHD. Cause I thought ICS was mostly for dual core phones.
[Desire HD Android Development] mike1986.:
Number of cores is pure marketing. If HTC Sense was good optimized, it could run smoothly on 800MHz core, even Sense 3.5. The sad true is that HTC devices will always lag, even with 8-core 3GHz CPU.
[Desire HD Android Development] ViDtje:
Woah, I thought we would get it as an runny port, I didn't even hope for an official ICS update! This is really great news! :) but wouldn't it then be smarter to call the runny port 10.x.x or something? :p
[Desire HD Android Development] mike1986.:
It's not officially confirmed information, just some leaks.
[Desire HD Android Development] uzairi:
This is so damn true LOL :D
[Desire HD Android Development] ViDtje:
Now I'm sure you work for HTC :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Super-Veloce:
Hmm that sucks, I hope HTC wil develope Sense without lag..

Sense is pretty big too, if you check the rom size, its about 390mb

a rom whitout, 90mb or something..

you should think when your cpu,gpu and mem are fast enough, that Sense would run smooth (whitout mods/boosters/tuning)
[Desire HD Android Development] mike1986.:
It's like playing games on PC. You can have newest PC with highest benchmarks but if the game has bad optimization it lags.
[Desire HD Android Development] Nokiacrazi:
I guess HTC Sense is designed to lag. After all it is just eye candy?
[Desire HD Android Development] re_di:
Wow! Next cellphone :-) It means support for another producer :-) Nice to see your development :-)

Pozdrawiam
[Desire HD Android Development] Super-Veloce:
so it's up to HTC to make a proper optimized rom ;)

Coming back on your comparison, it's true when you got the newest pc with highest benchmarks, you can play the game on highest settings whitout lag

when there is a new game, what requieres more, your PC isn't good enough anymore to run the game smooth, so you should run it at lower settings, or add/replace hardware, this is what we can't do with our phones. So it's basicly HTC fould, that Sense requires to much or it has bad optimization..

So HTC should adjust Sense to their phones, to let it run smooth ;)

but still, my next phone will be a HTC, because they are the best android phone makers ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Salonicano:
Hi,

there is a new Kernel for DHD available: RCMIX v12

You can find it on http://androidrevolution.nl/ -> Browse Files -> /ARHD/DesireHD/Kernels/ -> RCMIX_v122_OC_UV_2WR_EXT4.zip

Has anybody already tested it? Does a changelog exist?
[Desire HD Android Development] Nubzori:
Mike you richbitch, I want ur phones and roms :) Your rom collection is expanding all the time. Going to include Transformer Prime soon ;)? You probably already have it :P
[Desire HD Android Development] wjsturgis3:
Look here for change log.
[Desire HD Android Development] Honusnap:
Tegra 3 => 5 cores (not all 5 working at the same time)
[Desire HD Android Development] lenthele:
Transformer Prime has a locked and encrypted bootloader... No custom ROM until ASUS unlocks it like HTC did...

EDIT: sry meant ENcrypted ;)

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[Desire HD Android Development] Broekhuijsen:
And when exactly has htc officially unlocked the desire HD?
[Desire HD Android Development] Honusnap:
Not really, a multi core processor got a better power/consumption ratio than a single core => it draw less energy. It is also better for multi tasking BUT developers need to change their way of programming, parrallel computing is something else... :)

SPB Shell 3D is full of beautifull video effect and DO NOT lag, you're right.. sense should be smoother than it is... and i really don't like this 3D "effect" on sense 3.0, poorly done and i do not speak of these fuc... HTC apps full of logging trace, seems like a beta with debugging stuff.
[Desire HD Android Development] andreasy:
The truth behind Android's lag compared to Apple is it's true ability to multitask compared to iphone which doesn't but offer real smooth and lag-free experience. Android can do many things at the same time and that will cause the lag that we notice. On the other hand, iPhone will pause a download or other task whcih was supposed to run at background in order to do something else. It can't do them both.

I agree that cores won't help but may be adding more memory could do some good, IDK.
[Desire HD Android Development] lenthele:
Officially never until now;) Afaik as I know HTC didn't use a very strong encryption for our bootloader. The Prime's bootloader is encrypted with a 128bit key...nearly impossible to crack

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1422983

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[Desire HD Android Development] Super-Veloce:
Nvidia Tegra 3 is a quadcore cpu + 1 gpu, makes 5 ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Pedal_Bike_Pete:
Nah he was right, quad core with an additional low power core to operate on low demanding tasks. The GPU isn't included in that count.
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
Cores will definitely help but only if the programmer makes use of it. If you just run programs written for single processors, you certainly wouldn't feel any difference. That is basically the reason why at this point I don't feel any speed difference between my DHD and the Sensation.
[Desire HD Android Development] Honusnap:
Nope... it got 5 Cortex-A9s cores, one is working in low power mode, it is limited to 500Mhz and seems to be used to listening to music, watching videos... when it works all others four cores are stopped. When power is needed the context can be sent to the four others cores.. than the "companion" is stopped.

So in reallity it is a four cores (1.3 Mhz max if more than one core is used, 1.4Mhz max if not) + a companion core (500Mhz max) + a twelves cores GPU (ULP GeForce)

Added : The companion is builted with low powered transistors => It use less power but can't go in high frequencies.

Here you can clearly see the 5 Cortex cores :
[Desire HD Android Development] ultimatepichu:
for a moment I thought I was in the wrong Thread... :confused:

But I checked and confirmed again: it's dhd and not Asus Transformers Prime :rolleyes:

*although I am so deadly wanted that device as Xmas present :p
[Desire HD Android Development] Cristianop:
Omg too much technical stuff more. Ahm are the cortex cores faster than a bugatti veyron 16.x ^^

Just kiddin good explanation but must say mike is correct. Its just marketing 2,4,6 cores theres no need if rom is smooth written. And until now there arent much apps ( if any) that profit from several cores.

Its just like a computer at home why u need a quad core for? To play modern warfare? To make a document with word?....
[Desire HD Android Development] Honusnap:
Well ... you are saying that you don't need power in your phone, i can sell you my old T28s. It is builded on a single proprietary processor.. small, light (81grams), a week on standby.. what do you want more ?

At home i use my quad core to do many things, compressing videos as i'm developing softwares, launching some virtual machines in vmware for testing under different OSes ... yes i need multi cores. I'm in multi core since 1998.. it was a Dual Pentium pro 200, overclocked at 233.. :D

Higher power means new applications are possible.. the door to the futur. But you are right, we should not waste this power with bad developments. Many years ago, we .. me and my friends were really thinking of going from dos to windows, was it good or not... applications were faster under dos... see what happend ? I've got 100 times the power i was having at this time.. and guess what ..? I'm not doing more things than at this moment (well just a little more), i just do them in another way, cause my head is just designed on a single core.. ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] ghandil:
Oh I didn't know that this always lag on my smartphones (desire and desire hd till now) caused by HTC sense! If I remove the sense from ROM; will all lags be vanished?

So why couldn't HTC solve this problem after all these years? They haven't expert developers enough to do that?:rolleyes:

And just for my information: have external developers the ability to optimize the HTC sense to run smoothly, and have they done it till now?

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] zelendel:
Sense in android is still kinda new when you think about it. Hell sense/touch Flo is overall still a new UI with bugs to be worked out.
[Desire HD Android Development] sigurd_LU:
The bootloader is locked, and they even encrypted it.. That's one reason I wouldn't buy it, as I'd get bored pretty fast with having to use the stock rom and not being able to change anything. The other one is that I don't have enough money..^^
[Desire HD Android Development] Cristianop:
Im not sayin i dont need power. Im just sayi where is need at moment for example a quadcore 2ghz on a smartphone. I mean at home its fine if you.compress videos or do some intensive grafical stuff you need multi core but on a smartphone...?

Im very interested in the htc edge. Of course its nice to have a quadcore but time will show if we will have benefit from it.

Its kind like a car. Why does someone need a mercedes sl 63 amg for exampke if he cant use all those horsepowers on highway (except he lives in germany with almost no speed limitation on highway)
[Desire HD Android Development] Honusnap:
Was not thinking i would say that one day .. but i'm on the Decepticons side now.... unless they unlock this #%*king bootloader .. :p

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You can see it another way : your quad core phone is a fortwo smart with an engine as powerfull as the sl 63 one, but capable of working on one, two .. or up to 8 cylinders... depending on power you need ... mmm .. sounds good now .. no ? :D

Agreed that a 2Ghz quadcore is useless today, well it can be usefull for some, but i prefer a quad at 800Mhz than a single at 3Ghz.. more energy efficient, cause transistor that are able to reach high frequencies also eat more energy.
[Desire HD Android Development] zelendel:
Personally I just wish they would decide on a standard so some of the fragmentation can be killed. Once they have a standard base for hardware it will be alot harder for OEM to say a phone can't handle the update. Like they tried with the DHD and Galaxy S line.
[Desire HD Android Development] high_voltage:
What? Tegra 3 has quadcore cpu + 1 lowperformance core for not demanding tasks. Why you talk about the gpu? :D
[Desire HD Android Development] shino82:
he´s talking about gpu because the gpu is also included in the tegra 3 chipset!
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
All this talk about multi-core processors but everyone seems to be overlooking one thing. Just having multiple processors to do the job is not enough, if you want to utilize multi computing, you also need to have multi port RAM as well as multiple data bus structure. That's when you really harness the power of a multi-core system (such as the NCube) but this will also exponentially increase the price of the device. As such, there is a logical limit to how many cores manufacturers will put in their devices. It's more about efficient programming than hardware.
[Desire HD Android Development] Viktri:
Help needed

Hi Guys, I have an unusual reboot issue with my ARHD 6.3.1 ROM wherein just a few seconds after its loaded the ROM, it starts rebooting.

I have used the SuperWipe, and disabled backup on Google so as to not download the apps automatically and also have tried to keep my apps to the bare minimum thinking that it might be one of the apps which is causing the issue.

Unfortunately, none of the above has resulted positively. I am wondering if the overclocking of the CPU might be one of the reasons, but I am not sure. Any suggestions???
[Desire HD Android Development] Tweedskin:
Did you check that the MD5 of the file matched the one posted on the OP?

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You could also try flashing the 1Ghz patch (on the OP) if you think overclocking might be the culprit?
[Desire HD Android Development] Cristianop:
Yes should be oc! Try to decrease your oc. Or to increase voltage. Im not expert but give a try
[Desire HD Android Development] Viktri:
I tried to download the 1Ghz patch but the link seems to be dead. Is it just with me or is there a new link???
[Desire HD Android Development] shino82:
for me the link is working. try this one

http://www47.zippyshare.com/v/74331480/file.html
[Desire HD Android Development] Viktri:
Thank you so much for that link :)

Btw, the SuperWipe Link is also not working for me :(

I did in the meantime verify the MD5 and it matches the one on the first post. Thanks all for the quick responses, will flash the 1GHz Patch and post back.
[Desire HD Android Development] shino82:
you need the superwipe zip file?
[Desire HD Android Development] Viktri:
Again, thank you for the links guys.

I did flash the 1Ghz Patch, but the rebooting issue still persists. Anything else that I can try??? :confused:
[Desire HD Android Development] shino82:
flashed the 6.3.1 again?
[Desire HD Android Development] Viktri:
Sorry I didnt get that!!! I flashed the 1GHz patch and not the entire ROM.

I thought maybe the overclocking was causing the issue but it doesnt seem like that.
[Desire HD Android Development] shino82:
try to flash the whole rom again!
[Desire HD Android Development] makbil:
Test your SD card. I had all kinds of problems when my SD card got sick and eventually died last year.
[Desire HD Android Development] kravguy:
I also had that issue (the random reboots). First, I thought it had to do with my theme + crt off + display brightness set to 0. (yes, that caused a reboot but I was still getting random reboots). Tried different kernels. Finally tried a different ROM (rcmix 3d w/sense 3.5). At first, the reboots seemed to have went away but they started again. I am currently on a cm7 rom and the reboots have went away. This is not any knock on this rom or any other. I don't know if it's the base (2.3.5) that is the culprit (vs 2.3.7 in the cm7 rom). All I can say is that I spent several days trying to fix the issue and never could until switching to the cm7 rom. I am a die hard ARHD fan/user and because this issue isn't consistent across users, can only assume that it's caused by either something with the device or some app/setting incompatibility with 2.3.5. I hope you can figure it out cause I ended up with a few more gray hairs because of it. I miss this thread (there's no comparison between the support/community of this thread and the same thread for my current rom). As you can see, I still frequent this one on a daily basis.
[Desire HD Android Development] Viktri:
What you said seems to be very familiar to my situation. Even I tried RCMix3D, same issue, then thought ARHD should work fine, but the same issue. I was with MIUI until recently and the reboots dont happen on that one!!! I tried going the cleanest way possible by not restoring the backups and painfully installing the apps one by one. But the problem persists. So according to you, I should switch back to a ROM which doesnt have this issue!!!

It is sad especially since I like this ROM so much :(
[Desire HD Android Development] kravguy:
OMG... exactly. It was a real pain. I did run across something while googling that mentioned the reboots and the 2.3.5 base. That is what got me thinking that the common denominator between arhd and rcmix was the base (they both have sense but different versions). I was so close to throwing my phone against the wall. BTW, the rom in my sig has been pretty darn good. I'm pretty sure when mike releases v7 (if it's using 2.3.7 or anything other that 2.3.5), that I'll be going back to it. Not so much that the rom is better, but more to do with Mike and the arhd community. Really says alot about the folks here.
[Desire HD Android Development] atrako1973:
Any android phone is supposed to get 18 months of support or updates if you wish and thats official from google ,DHD is 1 year old it still has 6 months of support to go and the hardware to manage it too

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] Mojowaex:
Hey mike you won't release 6.3.2 or other updates because of a few rude users in here?

You should know that not everybody is rude, most of the people in here really appreciate your work and are supporting you ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] michaelnel:
Some of us have even sent him money.
[Desire HD Android Development] Cristianop:
Calm.down people. Just be patient he will release updates when he thinks so...
[Desire HD Android Development] zelendel:
And your point?

Look guys ill be honest. Things like this will make a dev decide to keep everything private and not do public releases any longer.

Once mike feels it is ready or IF he feels like it then he will release something. If not then he doesn't have to.
[Desire HD Android Development] PeeHoo:
I have exactly same problem in my wife phone...:mad: Is this bug away in newest version of ARHD?
[Desire HD Android Development] R3dF1v3:
Google didn't guarantee anything - they actually said they are working with device manufacturers to get them to agree to release updates up to 18 months from release.

http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/

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True.

I've sent Mike money.

I don't feel I'm owed a d**n thing for it, though. I haven't bought a product, or paid for a service. I've done it as a way of saying thanks to someone who has, in their own time, and out of the goodness of their heart, made something which has greatly improved my phone.

I certainly hope to see many more future releases, however if there aren't, I'm still far better off than I was when I first got my DHD, all thanks to the hard work and kindness of a dude called Mike1986!

Thanks!