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[Windows Phone 7 General] mrroey:
Many people believe that SAMOLED screens on Samsung devices are far superior in every way to other devices. Recently with the addition of all these new and similarly spec'd WP7 phones, it seems like a big deciding factor is the screen display.

I have used a focus and a htc surround for a week in addition to my iphone 4. Watching avatar on both devices, I realize that both screens have their setbacks, thats right even the AMOLED!

The general consensus with htc devices is that the viewing angles are terrible. Check out any video review of a HD7 or Surround and you can see that the screens are extremely washed out when viewed at an angle, and unfortunately, many of these reviewers shoot their videos not head on for obvious viewing reasons.

But when viewed normally, the wp7 htc devices are definitely not as awful as at an angle. Still, it is nowhere near SAMOLED crispness or vibrancy. One thing I did notice, however, is that when watching the same video or viewing the same webpages on my iphone 4, I can rightfully say that the lcd screens from htc are just as good as the overly praised retina display. The differences of colors and sharpness between the two are too subtle to tell.

The SAMOLED screens "pop" in color and vibrancy. Whites are glowing white and blacks are dead on black. No one can say that the Samsung did a bad job on their new screens. However, one thing that people tend to misjudge is the color production on their devices like the focus or omnia 7. It seems that while the surround may not produce white and dark as vibrantly, the ACTUAL colors (red, blue, green) are pretty close to what they should appear. What I am saying is the SAMOLED screens are TOO SATURATED. Again this could all be subjective, but I find that the SAMOLED screen just goes for as vibrant and colorful as they can get, disregarding true color tones. For instance, skin in pictures looks intensely orange and I have never seen skies so blue in real life. Webpage colors can be a bit to contrasting as well. And my opinion is from comparing the SAMOLED to my macbook pro LED screen.

I watched avatar on my blu ray and compared it to the surround and the focus. unfornately to say, the focus just makes the navis look almost syrup-y bubblegum blue. The high contrast of samsung screens are good in some ways but in others, it just seems overdone.

HTC may have made their screens to warm in color, thus appearing a bit washed out when comparing to other wp7 devices. But the AMOLED screen seems too saturated in color production, not just compared to my surround, but also my macbook's screen as well as my LED tv.

So in the end which would you pick? What are your guy's thoughts?
[Windows Phone 7 General] jojomoulder:
I've never done that kind of testing but my captivate has an awesome screen and I would put it against any other screen. The ritna screen isn't as impressive as apple makes it out to be. At least for me. But I will say these are the best out of all of them. My friend just picked up the x10 and boy does the screen look like $h!#, next to mine.

Sent from my cogcap
[Windows Phone 7 General] loomx:
I 100% agree with you, infact I have had alot of iphone 4 users comment on how good the screen is on the HD7 which shows what a difference using the phone in a normal way makes when compare to viewing at some obsure angle.

I also have always though the colours look wrong on OLED screens, but having said that, I have always though that about samsungs HDTVs, they seem to over exagerate all the colours and sharpness to make you initially go "WOW", then when you think about it, they just look wrong.

Personally, im happy with my HD7 LCD, and would take SLCD over OLED at the moment.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tom Servo:
The over-the-top vibrance is a reason why I went SLCD.

That and the Pentile pattern. My eyes are still well enough to notice fringing on rendered text as well as the pattern generally on evenly lit surfaces.

I had a Nexus One, the OMG-in-your-face colors get old quickly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mrroey:
thanks for input, the captivate looks amazing running android and playing videos I agree.

But do you think there is a line between displaying vibrancy vs true colors?

Sometimes when I view images in the focus, it feels like I opened a photo in Lightroom or Photoshop and just cranked up the vibrancy settings to the max, resulting in some drastic color contrasts.

But then again, the LCD screens of HTC do seem last generation. If only they could meet in the middle.

@ Tom Servo, I actually think the Nexus One did a good job on their screens. They use regualr AMOLED screens just like the Zune HD from microsoft.

Color production was beautiful. Only complaint with those screens are that they practically turn invisible in sunlight haha.
[Windows Phone 7 General] skycamefalling:
For me, WindowsPhone7 is all about white letters on black background and some coloured squares in between.

I do not watch videos on the phone and I don't have much photos to display.

So I chose the Omnia7 with that gorgeous SAMOLED screen because it's superior for my use.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
SAMLOED ftw. IPSLCD (retina display) is old, Apple just upped the pixel count. Put that many pixels in a SLCD and would look gorgeous.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Oranjoose:
Take a peek at this article, it has all you need to know:

displaymate.com/Galaxy_S_ShootOut.htm

Scroll down to section 8: Gamut.

You'll see that the SAMOLED is way over-saturated and that the

iPhone4 is very washed-out.

I own a Focus and a Droid, as well as an e-IPS and s-IPS panels, and I can

tell you that the article is spot on. Colors on the Focus are like crayola simple.

If you want accurate colors, then go somewhere else, but if you want the

"wow factor" then go SAMOLED hands down.

Hope that helps.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tom Servo:
I went from Nexus to Trophy. Looking at the same pictures, I actually preferred SLCD. That and as I said, some people notice the Pentile pattern. Which also makes text fuzzier. With Metro being pretty sparse in busy textures and mostly text based, I think it makes more sense to use the display technology that has full resolution on all color channels. AMOLED has currently half the horizontal resolution on the red and blue channels.

In relation to Samsung devices, it's possible they're running their Digital Natural Imagine Engine in background. I haven't had a direct Samsung device with AMOLED, so I can't say.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mrroey:
That was a GREAT article and very informative, though it can get a bit technical at times. To quote some interesting conclusions from the articles...(NOTE THAT THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN PRIOR TO WP7 PHONE RELEASE)

"We compared the Galaxy S side-by-side to a calibrated Professional Sony High Definition Studio Monitor using a large set of DisplayMate Calibration and Test Photographs. All of the photos on the Galaxy S had too much color saturation, to the point of appearing gaudy, particularly faces and well known objects such as fruits, vegetables, flowers, grass, even a Coca-Cola can. Photos that include very color saturated objects, such as a fire engine, were in some cases painful to look at. These effects are similar to setting an HDTV to a Vivid picture mode and then turning up the Color and Sharpness Controls. The punchy and excessively vibrant looking images on the Galaxy S may initially get lots of oohs and aahs, like in many of the early reviews, but after a while the gaudy looking images will become tiresome and unpleasant."

"There is no decisive winner as each of the three “Super” displays significantly outperforms the others in more than one important area and significantly underperforms in other areas. The iPhone 4 by far has the brightest and sharpest display and is the most power efficient of the displays. The Motorola Droid by far has the best picture quality and accuracy. The Samsung Galaxy S by far has the lowest screen reflectance and largest Contrast for both bright and dark ambient lighting, and the best viewing angles. On the flip side, the iPhone 4 has a weak color gamut and viewing angles, the Motorola Droid has weak screen reflectance and viewing angles, and the Samsung Galaxy S has lower brightness, excessive color saturation, higher power consumption and some sharpness issues. "

so there you have it. according to Displaymate,

iphone 4 = best mobile display

motorola droid (surprisingly) = best mobile picture quality

Samsung vibrant = best mobile display technology
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
Samsung is notorious for producing display panels with oversaturated color pallet.

It is true for their Plasma, LCD, LED's on the consumer grade television sets and now SAMOLED displays on the mobile devices.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Krissrock:
the oversaturation of the AMOLED's have been well documented prior to now. it doens't seem to be a problem for many as everyone has different interpretation of colors in their own eyes anyway.

I just think when u put these phone side by side...and contrast and vibrance of the samsung phones is just ridiculous...true color representation kinda falls to the side
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
The Retna screen is very impressive because the pixel density is much higher than on other screens. That makes reading on the screen MUCH easier on the eyes than on other screens. You may not consciously know it, but eye fatigue does happen and it's a huge consideration when buying a device you will spend so much time looking at. It also means the text will look much better when/if you zoom in on it.

It's like comparing a crappy CRT monitor to a high class LCD.

The color reproduction on sAMOLED is nice.

However, there's more to a phone than the screen.

HD7 has more RAM than other WP7 devices. It has a bigger screen than other WP7 devices. It has more storage than many other WP7 devices.

The only major downside to that phone, IMO, is small battery and the fact that the screen is flush with the front of the phone. Unlike something like a Vibrant, if you drop an HD2 or HD7 on its face it can destroy your screen.

Of course, that can be somewhat fixed with a case... Some people don't like cases, though...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Omega Ra:
I like the SAMOLED screens, but when I looked at the HD7 it was better than I thought it would be. That being said I do still want the SAMOLED. The other factors leaning me toward the focus (or samsung in general) are the fact that the screen has gorilla glass, making it much less likely to be scratched and when I was playing with the Focus and the Quantum/Surround/HD7 the screen on the Focus also seemed much more sensitive and responsive compared to the others.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Mercath:
This might have to do with the fact Samsung places the SAMOLED display directly beneath the capacitive screen. Other phones have a much larger space between the two.

The result is Samsung phones are often thinner, and they appear to be more accurate and responsive.
[Windows Phone 7 General] davidebanks:
i put my omnia 7 up against a hd7 in the flesh ( metal/plastic) and there is no comparison. Theres just no going back to LCD now. and as for viewing angles, seriously?, viewing angles on a mobile phone? are you kidding me? no one holds their phone at an angle! its not like we are going to mount our phones onto walls and have 10 people gathered around to watch it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] m8tix:
Since having my desire with amoled display for about half a year I won't go back to lcd/slcd because I think the colors are far more superior at least to me.

I went for the Omnia 7 as business device and I couldn't be happier. Build quality is surprisingly very good, perfect screen size for my needs and all in all I'm glad that I didn't choose the HD7 imho.

Regards
[Windows Phone 7 General] gfreek:
It may not be the sharpest of display and not produce the most accurate colour and I wasn't particularly impressed with Galaxy S S-AMOLED screen on android!

However IMHO S-AMOLED looks stunning on WP7 OS, it really compliments the Metro-UI and when put side by side with S-LCD running the same OS it's just not the same! It's for this very reason that I went for Omnia 7 over HD7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rexian:
Samsung plasma and in general any plasma is not as oversaturated as other technologies. LCD and LED displays from all manufacturers are setup to be in the "torch" mode (sometimes called dynamic by the manufacturers) to stand out on the floor. And to compensate for the grayish black level they oversaturate the color.

After you calibrate though, they all look the same, almost. LEDs will have a bit of blooming, LCDs will not be as black as plasmas and plasmas will lack the brightness in case you want to watch in a sunlit room.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ericc191:
The iPhone 4's screen looks pretty good, but 3.5 inches? Ugh.
[Windows Phone 7 General] RustyGrom:
Microsoft pretty much designed WP7 around AMOLED. The Zune HD is one of the first devices to ship with AMOLED and it was very much the precursor to WP7. AMOLED is one of the reasons why the default color scheme on WP7 is "dark". So yea, it should come as no surprise that WP7 looks best on an AMOLED display.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
I can live with a lcd display considering its the biggest going right now for wp7. Not that we had much choice on t-mobile anyways...

I don't think I can go back to the smaller screens after using the hd2.
[HD2 General] gio_sanchez07:
hey guys!! im trying to installed the droid on to my htc hd2

what steps should i take before installing it, and what do it need to do it right the 1st time!!

thanks!

Gio
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
You need to read and search before posting.
[HD2 General] JackH:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=653614 << first flash using this guide then follow android install instructions.

You should have search before posting, and you posted Question without any topic title?:eek:

LOL

Thread should be closed and trashed :cool:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
You say you downloaded a bigger root fs file, have you tried booting without it?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] laurensb01:
Hi,

I have a question about the Froyo 2.2 Android on HTC HD 2.

- I have performed a HSPL succesfully and updated my Radio to R: 2.10.50.28_2, also succesfully.

- I downloaded the Android folder and a bigger rootfs file.

- I formatted my SD card to FAT32.

- Now I extracted the Android folder to the SD Card and after that I first tapped CLRCAD and then I (tried)installed HARET.

But here's the problem.. when I click HARET to install it brings me to a black screen with a few small text lines in the left-above corner and these dissapear after 2seconds and bring me to the HTC boot screen where the screen is white and you see HTC in green letters.

What am I doing wrong? :). I really hope someone can help me with this.

Laurens
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
That is what is supposed to happen. Honestly it's asked about a dozen times here every day. While it's on that HTC screen it is creating the data store which takes between 10 and 30 mins depending on lots of different things.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] laurensb01:
I know that is what is supposed to happen, but wThat's not it. The htc title screen is just for 10 seconds and then it just reboots and I need to enter my password and the phone is totally normal... On the youtube videos I saw that when you click the Haret, there first are a lot of text lines going down but that does not happen to me either. I really don't know whats wrong and I hope that someone can help me, because I un derstand that I probably sound like a moron :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] abedhamid20:
Salut mon amis tu sais meme moi jai le meme probelm
[Dash 3G, Snap General] scheissegalo:
I have a T-Mobile Dash 3G, hard-spl'ed, who is now a HTC Snap. I flashed the 3volution rom who is btw a great rom. But it's in english only :-(

So is there a way to flash language only? If yes how and where i find the files?

OR any other stock, cooced rom with German Language?
[Dash 3G, Snap General] scheissegalo:
ok got a original german htc snap ROM for my device. Big problem is since i installed hardspl i can't flash original ROM's. everytime it freeze on 17% sometimes at 26% or 27%. i tried with Original shipped T-Mobile dash 3G and original singed HTC snap ROM. All the same. I tried to copy the nbh file from the original ROM to the 3volution folder and run the update util. but nothing seemt to work it freeze everytime. The only ROM what works is the 3Volution. what can i do?
[Dash 3G, Snap General] scheissegalo:
i forgot to say that everytime it freeze serveral minutes later update ultil comes up with an communication error. so i'm not forcing it to power off, i have to.

i also flashed the hardspl 1.19 serveral times but in bootloader is still 1.17 hard, wtf???

Today i tried serveral times with an microsd. Same issue it stops upgrading at 17% (i don't know exactly because on my device the process is not shown in %)

what everytime works is the 3volution ROM. i'm helpless.

Nobody with same or similar problems?

it will also help if anybody says just yes or no or something!!!!!

i can't post images or links so:

img87[dot]imageshack[dot]us/img87/4160/405hf[dot]jpg

and

img29[dot]imageshack[dot]us/img29/958/409s[dot]jpg
[Dash 3G, Snap General] scheissegalo:
This forum really Thanks for nothing at all

btw www[dot]pocketpc[dot]ch its a german forum but the people are aple to share his experience. i have my german HTC snap now!

sry to tell again but !!!!!!
[Dash 3G, Snap General] Mr. Clown:
What's wrong with you man?? Chill out. The forum does not have anything to do with your issues, the only one responsible here about your phone condition is really you.

Probably you haven't had an answered since they are already there. I've seen many discussion here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=550620. Take a time to search and read since this is not a spoon feeding forum.

I will remove your offensive language, please calm down.

First and final warning.
[Vibrant General] ca7846:
I connected my phone to kies and found out kies have new version.

It is now 1.5.3.10104_13.

Hopefully, it is a sign that we North American is getting froyo because UK roll out started after kies update.

One thing tho... I can't access to phone contacts through kies after upgrade.
[Vibrant General] presence06:
Are you using KIES, or Mini Kies? Does the program update only show after you plug your phone in?
[Vibrant General] ori2:
After the update, kies can no longer find your phone nor even the update ji6. In short, it's not for us galaxy's.
[Vibrant General] presence06:
Haha, I thought the Mini Kies was strictly US phones? Or am I wrong?
[Vibrant General] ca7846:
I use I9000M, Bell Samsung Vibrant.

I am not using Mini Kies.

May be this is Vibrant specific upgrade?
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
This is the Vibrant forum... More specifically: SGH-T959.... T-Mobile US Vibrant...

Not i9000x...

This forum is for T-Mobile Vibrants, and few things that apply to your phone will apply to ours, because they aren't the same.

There is a forum for your phone. This isn't that forum.
[Vibrant General] Ms_Vibrant:
Oh shut up.. you have the guts to reprimand others for mentioning another device when you hate the vibrant phone yourself?

So is the hd2 a better?? No regrets? Lol
[Legend General] NX3:
I've updated to Froyo 2.2 on VF UK and notice I've got HTC Flash lite 10 running. BBC Sport, iPlayer etc don't work as its 'unsupported content' when I try to play flash videos. Flash 10.1 isn't available i market or appbrain....

Is this because Adobe don't support HTC Legend or am I doing something wrong ?
[Legend General] warriorofice:
Flash Player is only avaliable for Amrv8 processor and Leged has Amrv7.

This means that Legend NEVER will get flash.

Only HTC Flash works.
[Legend General] CrazyPeter:
Got a source for this? Flash can be compiled for whatever CPU is needed. MSSM7227 includes a FPU which is a requirement. The differences between ARMv7 and ARMv8 are purely differences in the instruction set, which is set as a compiler target option.

http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...msm7225-msm7625-processors-how-good-are-they/
[Legend General] warriorofice:
I want to correct my previus post.

Legend has Armv6 Processor and Flash is avaliable for Armv7 processor.

http://www.precentral.net/adobe-dec...s-getting-flash-101-pre-good-pixi-not-so-much

http://androidandme.com/2010/02/news/no-flash-10-1-for-1st-gen-android-phones/
[Legend General] were2:
nope.

adobe just needs to make some small changes in the source code and recompile flash.

and the phone browser says that flash is available, maybe its a bug or something like.
[Legend General] Gingerbred:
The CPU is too weak. You don't want to run flash on it trust me..
[Legend General] scrapperstoo:
I can believe that - it struggles enough on my PC, let alone my phone :D
[Legend General] NX3:
Flash video is working on more sites, the one I'd like is BBC and its the one that doesn't. The phone can do full screen flash video without a problem on e.g SkySports etc....
[Legend General] Lord-Vader:
in browser videos play very slow and choppy for me even with official 2.2
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ventolino:
Help me please.

I've tried to change theme with the framework-res.apk using a guide on this forum and now my phone doesn't start.

I've tried to connect to pc, but pc companion doesn't see it because it is off.

What I have to do?

HELP!!! I'm without phone now
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pshdo:
Try seus instead from sonyericssons site...

(Sonyericsson update server)

Sent from my Commodore 64, with Dolphin Dos B-)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ventolino:
Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Now it is alive :D:D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pshdo:
Happy that it also worked for you...:-)

For some reason seus can always fix a lot more problem than pc-companion...

I only use seus myself...

-->

Sent from my Commodore 64, with Dolphin Dos B-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] burtcom:
OK -- Froyo is supposed to have Bluetooth Voice Dial -- but apparently it is disabled on the Desire Z.

I've seen some references that it might be enabled on North American phones, but on my Euro Desire Z it doesn't work. I click on my bluetooth headset button and nothing happens.

For now, I've installed Choice Dialer, and it works (you have to restart the phone after installing first)
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
You could try asking in the G2 forums if it works for them ?

Edit - sounds like it does work on the G2, might be worth trying what they suggest ? - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=811105
[G2 and Desire Z General] burtcom:
Doesn't work on my Desire Z -- I tried variations of short presses and long presses.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lalalandrus:
i have a nokia bt speakerphone which works to activate the voice dailing. it was finicky to get started but it worked.

the g2 rom handles voice dialing much better
[Galaxy S I9000 General] VistaX:
As the topic title says, I wonder if it is possible to change so that when I press the home button I'm going directly to all the apps, instead of going to the home screen?

I'm aware of that i need to root.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Croak:
Download ADW.Launcher, and you can make the home button do just that, among other things, no root required.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] VistaX:
Yes, I know it's possible with a launcher, but is it possible with Touchwiz?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] khrisstyan:
Please post here all the images and sounds from WP7(samsung,dell,htc,lg) for those who create WP7 themes(like me) and 6.1,6.5,6.5.x roms with the look and sounds of WP7.

Thank you

ps:if is the wrong place, please move the thread
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] ~~Tito~~:
Please post these types of posts in the WP7 Software and Development section.

~~Tito~~
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] khrisstyan:
Nobody can't extract images or sounds from windows phone 7?:confused:only the sounds and images from the builds for emulator can be extracted?