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[G Tablet General] mpguy84:
I think this might of bricked my gtablet :( I just got the tablet and decided to put the update.zip and recovery for the newest version on my internal sdcard and rebooted it and everything looked like it was installing fine.

Once it was done it sits at the viewsonic picture and just hangs, no response or anything after around 10 minutes. I tried doing the power and vol up again and it just sits at the "booting recovery kernal image"

I tried moving the clockwork on the external microsd card but it still wont work. Any thoughts? thank you
[G Tablet General] Dawg Fan:
Try holding the power button (just the power button) down for about 8 seconds. It should shut down. Then wait about 10 seconds and try just the power button. Hopefully it will boot up now.
[G Tablet General] mpguy84:
If I push it while its on and with the viewsonic it will shut off and if I keep holding it it will restart again within those 8 seconds.
[G Tablet General] mpguy84:
Do you guys think I should follow this guide? IDK if this is what will fix it. the nvflash or whatever? thanks

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=974422
[G Tablet General] Dawg Fan:
What do you mean by "and with the Viewsonic"?

If you are able to turn the tablet off and then turn it back on, what does it do after you turn it back on? If you get the blue honeycombs blinking slowly on and off, then just wait for as much as 15 minutes to see if it completes its update. If none of this works, you are probably going to have to nvflash the tab. Search this forum and you will find a post by Roebeet about nvflashing.
[G Tablet General] mpguy84:
It does turn on and off like normal, but sits at the viewsonic birds
[G Tablet General] Dawg Fan:
Yeah, I'm afraid you have the classic sympton that Roebeet has explained in earlier posts. His suggestion is to nvflash. I have no experience with nvflash. Thankfully, my updates loaded with no problem. At least your tab can be saved. Just follow Roebeet's instructions.
[G Tablet General] mpguy84:
Thanks, ill see if I can do that and if not, ill take it back to sears and say it failed to update the newest viewsonic release :)
[G Tablet General] bblackmoor:
Just nvflash it. It isn't difficult. The hardest part is finding the correct drivers.
[G Tablet General] mpguy84:
Yeah it took a bit to find the apx drivers but I found a direct site to download the developer kit which is an msi file that will install the apx file. I will try that and hopefully itll clear it out and ill follow a video. I havent done any android rom updates since my G1 when it came out. Its been a looooooooooong time :)
[G Tablet General] dony71:
none of custom kernel will work with tnt 5.0. even you flash with

special clockwork mod for 5.0.

as for now, tntlite 5.0 is black box. not any modification can be added.
[G Tablet General] Antdroid33440:
Tried it all!

Okay, I tried everything from installing Clockworkmod to going back to 2967 then 3588. Still getting same white screen with birds. I haven't tried sacrificing a chicken and throwing bones though :) Can anyone tell me where I can find 4.2.x so I can try that? The main reason I got this thing was to change the firmware.
[G Tablet General] Antdroid33440:
nvflash 2967

One more question, where do I get the files to nvflash 2967?
[G Tablet General] bblackmoor:
I suggest sticking with one of the ROMs that work with Clockwork Mod 0.8. Vegan, for example.
[G Tablet General] teenfaces:
I had the same lockup on the viewsonic screen when I first nvflashed 3588 and tried the update. I was able to fix it by NV flashing 3588 again. Then I put the 3588 update.zip and recovery on my internal sdcard and formatted data and flashed 3588 thru the stock recovery method. Once 3588 was up and running again I copied the 5.0 update.zip and recovery to the internal sdcard and used stock recovery to update. This is the only way I got past the Viewsonic and a normal boot up to tnt5.0 . So my conclusion is the sdcard flash of 3588 is needed after an nvflash before the 5.0 sdcard flash.
[G Tablet General] ksc6000:
can you please help me with this? I tried the exact same thing.

found the com... apk file for thumb keyboard, copied it, went to the system/app folder and hit Mount, pasted it. Worked fine..rebooted, and it's not a choice when I try to change inputs.

EDIT: Nevermind. I got it to work.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
That's correct. I had to actually rebuild clockworkmod with the new TnT kernel to get it working (that's why there's a pre-5.0 cwm and a post-5.0 one).

I wouldn't expect them to alter their custom kernels yet because, among other things, we don't know why VS made this change to start with. Or even HOW they did it. Will they release source? Is this a move to consolidate the GTablet with their upcoming tablets? These are all unknowns, right now.

What's really bizarre is that this new build of theirs which TnT Lite 5.0.0 is based off of is over a month old, now. It was actually compiled by VS on Feb 12th. So why did they never release it? Were they so terrified of the potential bricks that they killed it? And when is the next move, here? Build 3588 (the last "official" build) is almost two months old, now.

4.2.0 and the 4.2.5 supplement are still there, just archived at the bottom. I also archived the old instuctions as well -- see the "Other References" area at the bottom of the first post for that link (it's actually the 4th or 5th post from the start - I used my first reply as an archive section).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=861950

That 1105 bekit image is build 2967, the original TnT firmware.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Vegan is good if you are trying to get to genaric stock Froyo 2.2 android with mouse support.

CyanogenMod is a full custom 2.2 built for speed and well supported by Cyanogen developement.....well known for high end custom ROMS for phones.

TnT-lite tries to stay true to the origional Veiwsonic tap-n-tap software by just removing the most aggregous parts while keeping true to the under laying code base, I.e. no tat-n-tap overlay, the origional blue screens filled with big widgets the way your Gtab came out of the box. But basically totally stock viewsonic tweaked to include flash player,market, root,adhoc wifi fix, and many other things that speed this tablet up and make it more versitale. This developemen is the best chance of reaching Honeycomb eventually in my opinion due to adhearing to the vendors direction of developement.

All three of these ROM's are compatible with clockworkmod, the only difference is that if you should choose tnt-lite 5.0.0 or 5.0.1 you must use the clockworkmod rebuilt by roebeet with the new kernal instead of the Old kernal versions prior to tnt-lite 5.0 build.

This was caused by viewsonic going a different direction with their newest kernal release that all the past mods are not compatible with, but are hopefully changes "Ice cream or Honeycomb" may require.

Only time will tell and it really is up to you, but, the farther behind you get the more likely you are to reach a point where you can't get to the newest stuff directly without going through all the changes that were developed to get there......if the path to get there still exists at all.

Best of luck and we will be here to help with whichever decision you choose to make
[G Tablet General] gpence61:
I had to do a data wipe, but that clear up all of my problems. I used it for several hours last night and found no other issues (yay!)

2 follow-up issues:

1) on my earlier version of TnT Lite I was using Launcher Pro. I went to the Market to download it again and I don't find it... does that mean I need to do a market fix? Will LP work with TNTL 5, or were there driver issues?

2) should I download the "CWM .8 for TnT 5"? What does it offer over the new bootloader in v5.0? I looks like it has the same functionality as the "old" CWM .8.

Thanks again for everyone's help and for roebeet for cooking this rom.

roebeet, is this a part of your job, or just an obsession? Either way, thanks man!
[G Tablet General] cutterjohn:
(TnTl 5.0.0 -- haven't gotten around to the supplement yet...)

...was using it yesterday morning browsing with Dolphin HD and got a FC on Google Services again, after it had been up and running for about 40m or so... seemed kind of strange as when I triggered those before from screwing up the market hack it'd happen almost immediately on boot...

Also later while running Pandora (IIRC) I got a FC on (IIRC) com.media.audio(? well I'm sure it said audio but don't really recall the rest), but everything seemed to be working fine. (Only appeared once, and no FC Google Services that time...)

So, I'm at a point now where I'm getting the odd FCs with various things(beginning to remind me of my Archoses which are starting to show up with various FCs) which didn't happen in older versions of TnTl, i.e. v4.2.5 and earlier...

I'm going to try to use it again for a couple of hours browsing this morning IF I get the chance, but I'm thinking that if these FCs keep popping up that I'm going to do a nvflash back to base bekit 1105 stock fw -> 3588 -> TnTl 5.0.0 again unless anyone else has a better idea or somethings to check before resorting to that??

(Archos FC: happened with the A32IT when I was trying to upload some test pix to my notebook using AndFTP, but every time that I drilled down to the target dir on the nb it'd FC on me... rebooting seems to have fixed, just had been using the A32 to play music earlier w/WiFi on... probably a memory leakage somewhere in Archos fw... 256MB RAM is just really constrictive now BTW...)

[EDIT]

Yeah, as to battery the charge LED was still RED while the various fw were all syaing fully charged/100%. Eventually went to GREEN about .5h after I had gotten 5.0.0 installed... (I always hook up to AC while doing fw updates just to be safe, as losing power during a fw flash is usually VERY bad news for most electronics...)

My meter has been inaccurate for quite some time now, fully discharging and clearing stats with CWM helped, but just doing it once in my case didn't FULLY correct the meter accuracy. Just never got around to running it down again, but I will now as I'm sure that it's WAY out of whack now instead of just mostly...

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[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I would try the Market hack. It definitely adds more stuff to the Market (Facebook is another example).

As for cwm .8 "TnT Lite 5" version, it adds several things that the stock recovery does not - mainly nandroid backups. However, it doesn't flash the bootloader. Normally that's not a problem, EXCEPT for TNT Lite 5.0.0. If there's a new update later on that needs a new bootloader, I'll test it first and advise everyone.

Generally I use clockworkmod, but I might go back and forth during testing for obvious reasons.

Yeah, my battery meter has always been off. As for the FC's, did you try a data wipe? I needed one for TNT Lite 5.0.0, every time I flashed to it.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
At least one user called CS and allegedly 3991 was supposed to be released

At least that's what CS to them. I might want to call them, today.

If this is true, then that means the the headaches for TNTL were worth it, as they are moving in that direction.
[G Tablet General] bblackmoor:
I did try that, for some of the reasons you've stated. I was never able to get any new mod (old cwm, new cwm, 5.0.1) installed after installing tnt-lite 5.0.0. I tried for several hours, reflashing to stock with nvflash numerous times. In every case, the device hung on "Booting recovery kernel image".

Until that's fixed, I don't see any alternative other than sticking with ROMs that work with cwm 0.8.
[G Tablet General] Antdroid33440:
Observation

What I have noticed which seems strange is the install status bar will advance quickly to about 3/4 the way then stall for about 30-40sec. Then the bar will go further than the bar has space for; say to about 140%. Anyone else notice that?

bobtran: Your comment about falling further behind makes me think I don't have the same machine with respect to software as others who have been successful at installing. Are you saying I need to follow the exact same path as others; install TnT 2.0->3.0 -> 4.0 -> 5.0

roebeet: Thanx for the active development anyway, kinda why I got this gtab thing. Have learned something everyday. Frustrated not finished:cool:
[G Tablet General] makto:
Defeated

I believe at this point I am defeated.

I have tried everything and I am unable to get around some kind of corruption in my boot area. I have nvflashed so many times and it says I am on 3588 but I get E:Bad boot message

"C"

and my efforts in locating a fix have been fruitless.. if anyone would mind being of assistance it would be greatly appreciated.:confused:
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
1st. Can you verify that you don't have an update.zip on /sdcard and /sdcard2? If you do have an update.zip file installed, then remove the update.zip and the associated recovery folder if it exists. Then try again. The bootloader that is installed with TnT Lite 5.0.0 will not install the same .zip file twice. It gets hung up the 2nd time around.

2nd. If that doesn't work or if you don't have an update.zip file on the gtab, then install the updated ClockWorkMod zip using your USB connection. When you download the updated ClockWorkMod from the link posted on the first page of the TnT Lite Custom Rom posting, extract the ZIP file first. You will get a recovery folder and an update.zip file after the ZIP file is extracted. If you have a microSD card, install the files on that, but before you do so, go into the recovery folder, open up the command file and change SDCARD to SDCARD2 and save. Copy both the recovery folder and the update.zip to your microSD card's root directory. Then try to run the update using recovery.
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
If you are able to get into ClockWorkMod, or if you are able to install it if it is not currently installed (preferably the bekit .08 version), then you can go to the advanced settings and repartition (2048 / 0) the /sdcard flash disk that is in your gtab. Then, you can reinstall the rom of your choice from there. Keep in mind, repartitioning the disk will wipe all the data on the /sdcard directory.

If that doesn't work, and you have PC access to IRC chat, reach out to the folks who are out on the #tegratab channel. Be patient. Someone should be able to assist you.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=888465
[G Tablet General] mikesal57:
simple terms...

We cant go back to another rom or clockwork .8 unless we do nvflashed , which windows users will get headaches trying?
[G Tablet General] Dawg Fan:
New CW Mod for TnT Lite 5.0.0

How do I install the new CW Mod? Do I extract the files to the /ROM directory and then load the .zip in the recovery mode? Or do I extract the files to the root directory of the SDcard2 and reboot?

Figured it out.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
That's my fault - I need to fix that and I've just been lazy. I never look at the bar, I just toggle the text on and off (it's the home button, in standard recovery).

The updater-script controls that and I keep meaning to fix the bar to make it more user-friendly.

That's correct. Btw, I called CS today and it sounds like a new update is getting ready in the next week or two. No idea is its 3991 or if they are cooking something new.
[G Tablet General] bblackmoor:
nvflash is actually quite simple, once you download the correct files.
[G Tablet General] mikesal57:
Thxs Black...can u give simple step by step instructions...for windows 7 32 bit

just like I'm a 10 year old :rolleyes:
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
There are a few links in my first post, for Windows users. Look under the main instructions.
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
Hey Black, can you give me those same step by step instructions. I'm on Windows XP Professional and have nothing but problems. Also what is the difference between adb and adx Mode? Thanks in advance. :)
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Google online market works with 5.0.1

Currently running TnT-lite 5.0.1 and tested the online market select-remote install to my Gtab. Worked perfectly and the app installed correctly.

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[G Tablet General] roebeet:
They are two seprate tools - one does not rely on the other. APX mode = the nvlfash tool. If TNTL 5 causes your device to break, the nvflash tool seems to be the only option to correct.

Tmk, the Win7 instructions should apply to XP, as well. Win7 x64 might have unique issues due to driver signing I think - but I'm not a Windows user so I'm not certain.
[G Tablet General] rsfaze:
just got done flashing 5.0.1 and now having issues unlocking gtab. It works fine if I clear data but once the tablet gets put into sleep or turned off, the unlock does nothing.

I posted this in general also but figured it was related since it's the rom I'm running.

thanks
[G Tablet General] butchconner:
roebeet and whoever he was answering:

So far as I can see in the USB drivers -- see my thread "NVFlash USB Driver Solution" -- the file sets include drivers for whatever version you are installing. The .inf files calls and installs whatever is approriate.

Rev
[G Tablet General] CARMELHILL:
Lost Pulse, but...

I backed up, flashed 3588, flashed 5.0, and layered the 5.0.1. Everything seems great except a few apps won't install becasue it's telling me the G Tab isn't compatible, same from Web based Market. Specifically Pulse Reader which was my favorite app, and Weather Channel, and a few others.

I didn't have to do anything with changing lines in files, apx, drivers, etc... Am I just lucky? Or is my G tab slightly disabled without making the further mods and tinkers you guys are always talking about here.

I really miss Pulse Reader though.

Edit....do I still have to do the old market hack and install Flash 10.1 or was everything rolled into this 5.0 install?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
You still need the old Market to add more apps. I noticed Facebook is missing before you do that, for example.

Not sure about the Web Market as I'm not sure how this is being picked up - build.prop, perhaps?
[G Tablet General] joe2262:
I'm using and liking the 'Pulse News Reader' by Alphonso Labs and I didn't do anything special. Did originally do the Market fix involving Titanium Backup .
[G Tablet General] CARMELHILL:
Just clarifying, I was using installing a few apps through the web market on my computer...not while web browsing on the G tab.

I'll do the market fix and see if that helps. Thanks for response Roebeet.

Edit....Yup. That worked. Thanks guys.
[G Tablet General] chedderquest:
Video goings on?

roebeet and community,

I have been able to update to 5.0.1 without fail. The problem I am having is my video graphics seems to be acting wacky. I can see funny lines here and there on the screen, there like little dashes like a matrix (the movie) glitch. Please tell me someone else is seeing this as well?

Thanks
[G Tablet General] joe2262:
Yep, and one or two others have mentioned it. Roebeet thinks it may have something to do with Launcher Pro?
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Did you nvflash back to the original TnT from viewsonic (using bekit's 1105 image) or to 3588, Numerous people have had problems by going back to just 3588. Go back to the origional 1105 image and come up from there. This is what I did multiple times now and have experienced no issues so far.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
No, that is not what I mean, although I can see how you might get that impression......what I was commenting on is if you get stuck at an older level and stay there you may not be able to get all the pieces needed to upgrade later on as each upgrade makes an assumption as to what state your tablet is in prior to applying the update and some minor piece not needed for a later upgrade might be eliminated in 1 update but reinstated in a later update and if you miss the reinstated piece then the next upgrade requiring that piece will fail. Software is almost always two steps forward and one step back....you don't want to miss any of the steps back.

That said.....To get to the current 5.0.1 from 4.2.5, here is what/how I did it:

Backup all apps and data using Titanium pro, verify the backups with Titanium pro and then nvFlashed back to an original Viewsonic G tablet using bekit's 1105 image (the original Viewsonic stock image) and checked my partitioning to make sure it was the stock original not the modified one (I have never changed my partitioning from how my Gtab came from the factory), then used stock recovery/update.zip to upgrade to 3588, tested to make sure I was fully functional, then recovery/update.zip to upgrade to 5.0 (based on 3991) and did a data wipe before rebooting the system. Then upgrade to 5.0.1 using recovery/update.zip and tested the install. Then install the modified v.8 Clockworkmod for the TnT-lite 5.0+ ROM. Now test the install. After all is good, then and only then, install Titanium and then restore your apps and again test....test......test. This process has worked for me multiple times without the slightest issue or failure to upgrade.

I also replaced the recovery folder every time I upgraded with the recovery folder in the .RAR instead of just rebuilding the existing recovery command. Should not make a difference but it is already there and why take a chance on fat fingering a key in the command line.

Can't you just tell I'm a Database Administrator....paranoia is our stock in trade

I tip my hat to ANYONE willing to take a dip on the dark side of Rooting and running custom ROM's and applaud your tenacity to keep trying when you have failed on repeated attempts.....This is how we all learn to overcome adversity......Keep plugging away, you only fail when you give up.
[G Tablet General] chedderquest:
That is awesome, thanks for your quick response; this community is rock solid! I don't care what any of this so called experts say, we have one of the best tablets to date.

Thanks Roebeet and all who help make this forum fantastic!
[G Tablet General] chedderquest:
Thanks!

That is awesome, thanks for your quick response; this community is rock solid! I don't care what any of this so called experts say, we have one of the best tablets to date.

Thanks Roebeet and all who help make this forum fantastic!
[G Tablet General] japhule:
Been running 5.0.1 but it hasn't been perfect. I've gotten a few bootloops while using it requiring data wipes to fix. It could be a few issues on my end as I've been trying to get thumbkeyboard working by replacing the tnt settings with stock android settings, it seems to work initially but it would result in a bootloop after a reboot. I thought at one point maybe it's an issue with using the new CWM but I'm thinking it may be the replaced android settings.

I did another wipe and started over with 5.0 with stock recovery and haven't had a bootloop yet....but can't use alternate keyboards.

Has anyone else had success with alternate keyboards like thumbkeyboard?
[G Tablet General] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
I actually see a few here and there as well (TNT 5.0 -- didn't do the 5.01). I use ADW Launcher EX. So I don't think it's an LP Thing.

I only see the lines rarely though. Not enough to bother me.
[G Tablet General] joe2262:
I'm kinda glad it may not be Laucher Pro, as you say they are rare and not a big deal. Still, I hope Roebeet can track the cause down and squash it but I think it's a low priority item?