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[Legend General] bullchicken:
I feel that HTC really **** the bed with this. They can't say that vodafone did a really quick job customizing it as they would have had to supply vodafone with the release version for them to start customizing, there would be no point sending a release canditate as if there were any changes vodafone would have to start over again. This is the version they should have just plain released.

They also can't say that vodafone sent it out without their knowledge/on the sly etc as the files are hosted on HTC's own servers.
[Legend General] jennan88:
Who cares? We'll all get it in a few weeks, in the scheme of things you can't get pissed off at them for upgrading your phone.
[Legend General] jorgesalvador:
It's not a life or death issue, true that. But my next phone will be made by a company that does care about upgrading their phones, that's for sure.
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
:D

Good luck finding one better than HTC, they're all pretty crap. Unless you're going for an iPhone or WP7 where the updates are rolled out from the respective companies who developed the OS's.
[Legend General] jennan88:
Yeah, I was going to ask what company is better at this than HTC. As Jay said, Apple and Microsoft can do all-at-once because they have the power to, whereas the Android lineup is so fragmented that'd be impossible.

Sooo the basic lesson is, this isn't HTC's fault, nor is it Google's. It's the price you pay for having lots of options in the market.
[Legend General] SnowToad:
Yeah but like in America, phone companies have special connections with the carriers and make phones especially for the specific carrier with hardware branding etc. Like the Galaxy with different versions for different carriers.

Whereas in Australia there's no link like that, they just get what they choose and put some software crap on it if they want.

So does that mean we have to wait for Vodafone Aus to get their crap together and get the update ready for us themselves?
[Legend General] Ciela:
No, just root and install the pre-rooted ROM thats available here on XDA :) Its based off of the UK Froyo Vodafone ROM, but most branding has been removed (all branded apps gone, but Vodafone boot animation remains). Im glad I waited for the rooted ROM rather than flashing the unrooted one :)
[Legend General] jennan88:
Just got this reply from the vodafone australia twitter account regarding my enquiry about when we'll get froyo.

'We have no info on a VFAU release of the FroYo update, I'm sorry. As soon as one is announced, @vodafone_au will tweet it! ^k'

At least they're honest. I'd prefer an 'i don't know' to a ' soon, promise!' lie
[Legend General] jorgesalvador:
Indeed, you both got it. Apple is way better at this (my iPod touch will have received three major OS updates during the same time, and it's older than my Legend).

The basic lesson is that it's Google's fault really, they do the OS, they license it, they can make the rules. It's also HTC's fault to let the carriers put their crap on their handsets as well.

I should have known better I've always hated the carriers branding even back in the "old" days of dumbphones.
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
I don't know what your problem is with the branding.

So what if the default home page was VF360, change it. You only have to do it once.

Delete the bookmarks VF put in it.

There are 2 VF apps in the app drawer, use 1 of the guides to delete these or hide them with PaulOBrien's guide.

Yes there is a VF boot animation, but how many times a week do you really need to reboot? and does that animation really effect the operation of the phone?

I know I complained about it a little, but then I sat down and thought about it and it's not that bad. It could be worse.
[Legend General] pik1:
there is also a great unbranded version available here (and modaco) from paul! no vodafone stuff included... if you are rooted of course ;)
[Legend General] tnakir:
I honestly don't know why does it take so long to release the regular froyo. I mean, Froyo is finished weeks ago, considering Vodafon already implemented their junk in it. HTC sucks bigtime.

One thing that could be the possible reason of delay is that the vodafone release is a "test release". HTC is testing the release on smaller number of devices, and if everything goes well, they'll release the stock rom?
[Legend General] szpecu:
hi there,

was really hopin they would implement some awesome voice features and astonishing sense. sucks a big time though. the benchmarks seem superb but current v (2.1) is pretty good.

no update in PL, unbranded. probably going to root in 2 months if there is no update, cheers.
[Legend General] troupierLEON:
from HTC on facebook:

"Lots of people have been asking about HTCsense.com support for other phones. Can only say we're just getting started..."

Mhh... dunno.
[Legend General] amarshe:
Just had an email back from HTC, saying that 2.2 *should* be available for unbranded HTC Legends by the end of the year.

If that's true I won't buy another HTC product again.
[Legend General] tnakir:
You are kidding, right? By the end of the year? And branded froyo is out? Who are they screwing around? The ROM is done, come on, let it out. :confused::mad:

I am sure i won't buy another HTC product again. Unless i buy HD7.
[Legend General] kid1988:
Isn't there a rooted version of the VF rom without all the crap? I think I'll root when I get home and flash that rom..... Tired of waiting, especially if HTC is going to play games with us....
[Legend General] norashers:
yes the modaco rom
[Legend General] lessirey:
That probably is an ignorant help desk guy. Htc is already taking the heat for the delay. It should probably be rolling out this week or next.
[Legend General] troupierLEON:
Another answer from HTC Germany to my email:

Vielen Dank fuer Ihre Rueckmeldung. Das Update wurde offiziell bestaetigt und sollte bald kommen. Sind Sie sicher, dass das Vodafone-Update bereits erhaeltlich ist? Normalerweise kommen die Updates fuer die freien Geraete immer zuerst. Die sind aber erst in den Startloechern und Vodafone sollte das Update noch gar nicht anbieten koennen.

In english (short):

He doesn't have a clue that it is already out and Vodafone shouldn't have realeased it yet...
[Legend General] acid74:
I think it is not Vodafone the one who released 2.2,the FOTA comes straight from the HTC servers.So it HTC who pulled the trigger.
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
I don't think it's Vodafone that's released it, the download links are from a server hosted by HTC or at least the root domain name is HTC's.

That guy just doesn't have a clue :D
[Legend General] amarshe:
No, that's what the email said. AS lessirey says hopefully it's nonsense from a first line support guy.
[Legend General] nutunited:
You should totally make a version of that site that allows you to select your phone make too... Not that it matters to me one iota, but would be pretty cool to have :)
[Legend General] troupierLEON:
Yes, obviously.

But he told me now, that he will pass the information to some higher levels and will contact me when he got some news. He also told me, that normaly unbranded users should get updates first at all times.

At least he is answering... and that within 5 minutes I sent the mail.

We'll see.
[Legend General] IceFreak2000:
Only because I'm bored at work, here's a Powershell script to check for OTA updates (based on Dr. Death's bash script)

function Get-FOTAUpdate (
[string]$model = "Legend",
[string]$firmware = "2.03.405.3"
) {
$client = New-Object System.Net.WebClient;
$headers = New-Object System.Net.WebHeaderCollection;

$postData = "{id:0,checkin:{build:{firmware_version:$firmware,},},model_number:HTC $model,logging_id:0,locale:0}";

$headers.Add("Content-Type", "org/x-json");
$headers.Add("User-Agent", "Android-Checkin/2.1");
$headers.Add("Host", "andchin.htc.com");

$response = $client.UploadString("http://63.241.57.68/android/checkin", "POST", $postData);

$pattern = "`"data_uri`":`"(?<uri>.*?)`"";
if ($response -match $pattern) {
"Update found: {0}" -f $matches["uri"];
}
else {
"Sorry, no update available";
}
}

Export-ModuleMember -Function Get-FOTAUpdate

Once imported, it can be executed as:

Get-FOTAUpdate -Model "Legend" -Firmware "2.03.405.3"
[Legend General] kazzaz:
strange that major websites dosen't mentioned the update atall even gsmarena and androidandme ... strange ..
[Legend General] kugel.:
Can you name one?
[Legend General] jorgesalvador:
I sure can, I already did. Apple. They did release three major upgrades to my, you could call it, sim-less "phone" iPod Touch in more or less the same timeframe HTC has released one buggy update to the Legend.
[Legend General] loscassapalle:
If you want a 800€ phone that doesn't know what flash is, whit the most stupid antenna project of ever, run to buy it...i'll wait
[Legend General] jorgesalvador:
It's 600 euros, pristine unlocked and free of silly branding. I rarely use Flash in any of my devices, I don't even think about it on my Legend I do care about battery life and I like to be able to use the phone for at least a day.

I won't run to buy it because I still have contract with the Legend. But sure will think really seriously about my next phone next summer. I won't rule out all Android phones, but I won't consider any single one with manufacturer or carrier brandings.
[Legend General] randy_khoo:
Because not all countries have htc desire hd and desire z yet. Does that answer your question?

Vodaphone has already distributed both these models.

My country doesn't have these 2 phones. The legend update is also unavailable.
[Legend General] logoo:
Why beeing so obsessed with flash? It will bring you just ads 95% of the time...

The anthemna issue on the iPhone made a buzz because iPhone is popular... I for example has my legend for 6 months and I ve never been able to use WiFi because of the lost of signal every 30sec and I'm not the only one but since legend is not as popular as iPhone its not gonna create a buzz.

IPhone doesn't have Android experience, iphone is expensive but you can say what you want its way smoother than legend (never had a lag on my 3gs in the sms app or when using keyboard) and apple would never have let his consummers with a sms bug for months.

I know Android owners are used to denigrate iPhone (I don't know why?) but sometimes its good to remain objective

I love my legend though, I wouldnt have bought it if I prefered ios experience :)
[Legend General] Chaotick:
The Android experience is better for me and isn't as say "flash" as the iPhone.I like the idea that HTC devices are less common.

As for lag. My father has the 3GS and i've seen it lag. I cannot say which of the two ( 3GS or legend) becasue they are diffrent: in some cases one freezes when the other is lightning fast.

The one thing that irritates me in the Apple product is the price and the build quality. For that price i would expect the iPhone to be better that my cheaper Legend but it isn't.....the HTC legend build quality is the best i've seen on a phone in all my life.
[Legend General] jennan88:
I've also switched from an iphone, and there were times when it would lag so much it would be completely unusable. Especially in web browsing and longer sms threads, it was ridiculous.

The only thing that I liked better about ios was the smoother scrolling, but launcher pro plus fixes that. The legend is light years faster than an iphone in usability and function.

The only thing I don't like is you're much more likely to get a poor app on the android market. But in time, hopefully that'll change as more and more developers get on board
[Legend General] loscassapalle:
i'm objective, but i'm also an ict engeneer and i can't believe that in apple they don't now what an antenna impedance is. in italy (not at the MIT) every student of the second year could design a better one. a 30€ phone has a better project.

and, here in italy, the 32GB costs 780€
[Legend General] BlaY0:
Nicely put m8!
[Legend General] UserX5:
I have to agree with some of the others here. HTC basically put out one major software update ever since I got my Legend and it was filled with bugs.

-My SIM settings prompt for change after every restart

-I have to clear my bluetooth received/sent files manually (hitting the clear button isn't enough because they will pop back into the top bar after a restart)

- SMS messages sorting bug

- Etc.

After months of dealing with this crap HTC still hasn't put out so much as a minor update addressing these issues, even while the internet is filled with threads describing them. On top of that Android 2.3 is about to be released and I'm still left with Android 2.1. Not to mention their non-existing support for Macs.

Will my next phone be one from HTC? No, of course not.
[Legend General] neverg:
You people talk like Legend been on the marker for years... You complain about getting only 1 major update since you got your Legend... that's smart, since there is really only 1 update since Legend is out, 2.2, Legend came with 2.1 at least mine did and I bought mine on the first week of release.

Of course there is bugs, in software there is always bugs, there isn't a perfect software anywhere. I do agree they took their time to fix this bugs, specially the annoying SMS Bug (which I still have since i'm on 2.1) but at least HTC is delivering, better later than never. Look at Samsung Android phones or even at Sony Ericsson with some on the line still stuck with 1.6? No even Hero that was released before those devices, have a newer Android version.

Am I totally happy with HTC? Hell no, but I'm more than satisfied to buy an HTC again for my next phone. The detail HTC put into the Sense UI, specially on the Android plataform is not comparable to the rest out there. The Default Android without Sense for me is a bit lackluster, there are many small improvements that transforms Android with Sense with a much better experience overhaul.

But yes, you are free not to buy HTC again, but if you want something better in terms of getting updates on time, there is basicly 2 options, Windows Phone 7 and iPhone. The first is a new OS and we still need to see what will it be capable of deliviring in the long run, the later doesn't give you choice, 1 device at the price of more than 800 euros here in Portugal, that buys me almost 3 Legends. :p
[Legend General] iodine:
HTC Products?

Speaking of HTC Products, HTC Desire Z was recently released here in Canada. I got my hands on a demo unit, what a beautiful piece of engineering.

My brother ended up buying it .. I'm jealous now :D
[Legend General] nxdu:
You're forgetting that majority of Legend users are also still waiting for 2.2.
[Legend General] TheLegendaryJay:
Not for long though and they'll have 2.2 before a lot of the other devices that still have 1.6 even see 2.1 never mind 2.2! Some devices are still being sold with 1.6, others are NOW only being upgraded to 2.1 whereas we are getting 2.2.

HTC are one of the best Android handset manufacturers, slate them all you want but if you go else where in the Android world you'll be even more peeved off.
[Legend General] fatthumb:
Agreed! Try getting X10 and you'll know :p
[Legend General] UserX5:
They "took" their time to fix it? It still hasn't been fixed.

Those two options sound good to me compared to what HTC is offering right now.
[Legend General] neverg:
It's fixed on 2.2... that is getting released,so. Well, go then, don't buy HTC again, who cares. That's why Android has many options.

But considering that an iPhone costs 3 times as much and it's not 3 times better, it's your wallet. :cool:
[Legend General] Kwen:
Looks like Rogers/Fido SMS time bug is still there, oddly, CM6.1 didn't have such issue

French keyboard also defaults to AZERTY vs QWERTY (French Canada)
[Legend General] alexhtclegend:
Has anyone else on the official 2.2 spotted the copy and paste bug? It highlights the word, but doesn't bring up the options for copying etc unless you scroll around - try copying a few things in the browser and you'll see what I mean.
[Legend General] ivanakis:
guys i wanna know if 1.31.405.5 is enough to upgrade to froyo , no one actually respond to that question
[Legend General] Chaotick:
ivanakis => A large number of Legend users has this version and I think that is enough because on this rom ver. there was no update to 2.0xxxx . That's stock unbranded ROM.
[Legend General] nutunited:
Mostly because nobody knows. There was an OTA update from 1.31.405.5 to 2.05.405.2 - but HTC pulled it because of that sms bug I believe... There is also an RUU to get to 2.03.405.3, but no OTA to get there from 1.31.405.5.

So really they should release the OTA update to Froyo from 1.31.405.45, 2.03.405.3 and 2.05.405.2. Will they release for all these WWE versions? I don't know... 2.03 and 2.05 are likely, but not sure about 1.31 - guess they have to though, because many, many people are still on it...
[Legend General] bullchicken:
My legend uses the Taiwanese (2.06.709.3) rom (in english) . How many other people are on that?
[Legend General] BlaY0:
Exactly 37147...

Sent from my HTC Legend
[Legend General] krasenk:
LOL! BlaY0, you always have the proper answer :D
[Legend General] njuzovi:
Here you are: misc . aubx . com / android

;)
[Legend General] makedonii:
i have rooted HTC Legend with:

Mod Version: CyanogenMod 6.1.0-RC1-Legend

Kernel: 2.6.29.6

after the the official update hits for the unbranded phones, i want do go with it and basicly unroot my phone with that 2.2 Froyo and whipe everything that has with rooting to do.

so my question is: is it going to be as easy as just flashing that 2.2 ROM on my rooted phone and its all done or we acctuly dont know that yet?!

ty!
[Legend General] Pfitzy:
I've been told by HTC Germany that this is the Austrian (AUT) version. It certainly won't update my phone which is Deutsch Vodafone, transported to Hong Kong and then imported to Australia. I've tried and it doesn't work. The quick description of my problem:

1) In Australia, I purchased a phone that came with Deutsch and Chinese instructions (HK Chinese)

2) It found OTA update of HK version (3.15.708.2)

3) I applied it only to get Red Triangle Of Doom (RTOD) 25% of the way in.

4) I put the AT_GER version above as update.zip on the SDcard root, and ran it from the recovery console after RTOD

5) It failed with the error below:

assert failed: file_getprop("/system/build.prop", "ro.build.fingerprint") == "vodafone_at_mobilkom/htc_legend/legend/legend:2.1-update1/ERE27/191838:user/release-keys" ||	file_getprop("/system/build.prop", "ro.build.fingerprint") == "vodafone_at_ger_mobilkom/htc_legend/legend/legend:2.2/FRF91/282424:user/release-keys"
E:Error in /sdcard/update.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.

My ReleaseKeys number is 193617 therefore this won't work. If I change the metadata file then I get signature errors, probably due to cocking up the SHA1# of the metadata file.

I tried the UK firmware and it gave the same thing.

So the question is: which ****ing upgrade do I need, and does anyone know where to get the ****er? :)
[Legend General] akoepke:
Go to the About Phone section under settings and go to Software Information. The software number is what you need.

Go to: http://zubu.ca/legend/fota_check.php

Find your software number in the list and see if there is an update listed under it. This will give you the exact update you need for your device.

This only checks over-the-air updates and won't let you know if there is a new version available to download from HTC directly.
[Legend General] Pfitzy:
Cool thanks for pointing that out.

So in that case, the version that my OTA is finding is correct. Let's go back to square one :)

The problem then is this - after the upgrade starts it gives Red Triangle and then pops this up on the console when I VolUp+Power:

assert failed: getprop("ro.cid") == "00000000" || getprop("ro.cid") == "11111111" || getprop("ro.cid") == "22222222" || getprop("ro.cid") == "33333333" || getprop("ro.cid") == "44444444" || getprop("ro.cid") == "55555555" || getprop("ro.cid") == "66666666" || getprop("ro.cid") == "77777777" || getprop("ro.cid") == "88888888" || getprop("ro.cid") == "99999999" || getprop("ro.cid") == "HTC__622"

E:Error in /sdcard/download/OTA_Legend_Froyo_S_hTC_Asia_HK_CHT_3.15.708.2-2.06.708.2_P_release_160520fmzrr1asotmojs4c.zip

(Status 7)

Installation aborted

So there is something up with this ro.cid property. Anyone know how I can fix that?
[Legend General] Pfitzy:
Anyone? :)

Bueller? Bueller? :D
[Legend General] Pfitzy:
So I've gone and rooted the phone. After playing around with BlaY0's ROM and Cyanogen I'll stick with the standard one for now and work my way up to FroYo.

Thanks for the advice guys.
[Legend General] warriorofice:
How many time will take a chef to make a rom???
[Legend General] TheGrammarFreak:
Well, I just tried. The downloads aren't full ROMs, they're just updates. We need an RUU.
[Legend General] IceFreak2000:
Slightly confused...

OK, so I've currently got my Legend running the 2.03.405.3 firmware after debranding a while ago, and according to the zubu.ca update checker (at the moment):

Checking update for 2.03.405.3...

Found none

Are we expecting an OTA update for 2.03.405.3, or will there be an RUU? I don't really want to go back to the branded Vodafone release to get Froyo...
[Legend General] nutunited:
They have to release an update for 2.03.405.3 - it is the latest version of their unbranded rom! Not sure about RUU, but there should at least be an OTA update...
[Legend General] krasenk:
I'm trying to find how to merge official rooted ROM with the OTA... No luck so far.
[Legend General] Ciela:
I may be completely off the board here (as I have no experience at all with ROM cooking), but could someone not do the following:

* Flash UK Vodafone RUU 1.32.161.4

* Patch to UK Vodafone patch 2.05.161.1

* Patch to UK Vodafone froyo patch 3.14.161.1

* Use soft-root to gain SU, then use adb to pull the entire rom to their HD

* Build rooted ROM from the sources
[Legend General] logoo:
"Just starting to roll out now. If you have unlocked LEGEND you should be receiving the update very soon if not already. If you purchased your Legend through a carrier it will take a bit more time for them to complete their individual tests." HTC Facebook
[Legend General] Tonyshun87:
great,does that means a froyo rom with sense is coming?can't wait
[Legend General] xennr3:
Great :D

I'll search my brothers legend and update the Vodafone at Mobilkom version on his phone :)

Edit: no updates available for my 2.05.177.2 :(
[Legend General] cryshop:
Cool, then I don't have to waste my time anymore developing Gratiend rom, trying to make this a flashable zip.
[Legend General] kazzaz:
thank you htc .... just one week :D .. they were tehtering us
[Legend General] warriorofice:
Great news!!!!

Can´t wait.
[Legend General] nutunited:
Well now they're just lying! no update for unbranded legends yet :(

Swyped from my HTC Legend
[Legend General] kuklux:
www.androidpit.de/de/android/forum/thread/402786/Froyo-fuers-Legend?si=180
[Legend General] Tonyshun87:
Really looking forward it!BTW great job with gratiend rom
[Legend General] bihariel:
could someone make a flashable zip?
[Legend General] warriorofice:
Hope Master Cryshop will do soon
[Legend General] janarp:
Can't wait OTA Update for my unbounded legend... hope it come soon...
[Legend General] Ciela:
Can anyone who has upgraded let us know what kind of branding exists? Do any soft-roots (such as univeral androot) work with it? Does the downgrade hack still work in order to downgrade and root again?

:)
[Legend General] DeeJayDark UE:
Still no update for unbrended 1.31.405.5. :(
[Legend General] Pharaohnough:
Waiting anxiously!!
[Legend General] taleboblen:
Nothing with unbranded Legend in Denmark... hmmm patience is a virtue... :s
[Legend General] amstuzmarco:
Switzerland, 13:34, unbrandet:

No FroYo
[Legend General] thugzie:
Poland, unbranded - still no Froyo.
[Legend General] LonelyOne:
Norway - Unbranded -NO Froyo....