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[Epic 4G Accessories] muyoso:
I have the same battery and my volume down button works perfectly.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Pvt WhoOkid:
I might buy both batteries now just to play with them and see which is better. All these post confuse me. Since I'm on my phone so much, and I'm a heavy user.

- Its just going to be Epic!
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
If you look on the other forums and on other peoples reveiws for other phones like the EVO especially the Yoobao brand of battery is actually the Duracell/Energizer in your battery equation...Yoobao is known for it's quality...as more time passes that remains to be seen in my opinion...but I've heard about it's brand name quality from more than one unlinked sources.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
Oh yea that's after one day...but after a few charge and discharge cycles you should be hovering around 60-50% give or take a few % after 24 hours this morning at 8am I woke up with 65% after 24hours and 43 minutes of texting all day (facebook msg txts, and regular txtn) plus an hour on the phone...repost once you've run it through a few more charge pacings and see if you get any improvement
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
If you ballin then by all means do what chu do...but I think testing 2 batteries with one phone would take a long time...and people have some #'s up with both the 3500mAh and of course My thread here along with my reveiw...there's even a new thread about the 3500mAh "monster" battery....make sure to post results if you do thoe.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
Only having to charge the phone every other day is very realistic in my situation and I do everything from my Epic...but I'd agree by saying 3 days would be unrealistic because the phone COULD last 3 days, but that's without doing anything at all....my 60 hours came with plenty of usage as you probably already saw on the reveiw.
[Epic 4G Accessories] durhamite:
Ok, give me a few days and I will repost my results. But like I said. I am pretty happy with the results so far. I would usually go from 100-40% from 8 to noon.

What can I do to make the display not take up so much power. It was my biggest power consumer by far. I have a dark wallpaper and my brightness is two ticks from min. I don't know what else to do other than not use the phone.
[Epic 4G Accessories] ultra78721:
I already got my battery:D that was fast:eek:

Its not that bad ..I expected it to be thicker but its not:)

The door it comes with, fits nice and tight just like the original .:)

Now,how do I condition it? It has 71% charge on it ..Now what:confused:

Please advise
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
Your doing everything right...I went over the basic power saving tips that I do on my epic in my youtube video "Epic 4g update & review", but if you have a dark backround with a low brightness setting...there isn't much else you can do...the screen is just going to take up most all of your power and is usually only outweighed by voice calls or cell standby.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
You condition the battery by charging it to 100% prolly overnight...and the first time on the charger because the phone is used to charging a 1500mAh battery you wanna leave it charging for at least an extra 3 hours after it turns blue with the phone OFF...after that use the phone untill it dies and powers down after reaching 0% battery...charge to 100% and do the same thing at least 3 times...this will adjust the phone to the new range of the extended battery...you should see a major difference from the first discharge time and how the battery holds a charge after the 3rd time around.
[Epic 4G Accessories] m5james:
I question is cycling lithium batteries is needed as well, but it is good to cycle it for the sake of the phone learning the battery. I've read issues of people having terrible battery life when flashing to 2.2.1, or even 2.1 stock, but I wonder sometimes if that's why Sprint says to do flashing when the battery is fully charged, so then the battery stats start it's learning process from a fully charged state, which is how it's supposed to be done anyways.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
Definately....and adding to that it's especially important to do going from a 1500mAh to any kind of extended battery because the phone has to get used to a whole new range of capacit, and I do believe the battery does get a good "breaking-in" from using it's charge from full to empty a few times...and it make the battery hold the charge it has at all points of charge from full to empty.
[Epic 4G Accessories] J31Rob:
Opinions on 2800mAH battery in this thread versus the Innocell 3000mAH? If the Innocell is going to clearly outperform the 2800mAH for only $30 more, I'm willing to go that route. The Epic isn't a cheap phone by any means.. I see no reason to cheap on the source of power.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
I can't say much on the 3000mAh Innocell but I can personally vouch for the quality of the 2800mAh Yoobao and I'm still consistantly getting 2 days give or take a few hours out of this battery with no drop in holding performance. I've also read up on and heard about the quality of the Yoobao brand of batteries and the quality I've heard about from different unrelated sources...even other youtube video's like the one for the EVO's 3500mAh Yoobao give it a good rep....and an extra $30 for an extra 200mAh...well you can make that decision on your own Rob.
[Epic 4G Accessories] J31Rob:
How do you use your phone on a daily basis as far as use goes? I spend a lot of time using the browser, YouTube & texting.. so my screen is on off on off all day. With moderate to heavy use I usually get 5-6 hours on a battery. You a pretty heavy user? Ever tortured tested the battery?
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
I answer most of your questions on my YOUTUBE video review, but I did torture test the phone after I charged it up to full for the first time and it took me 13 hours of nonstop browsing, AIM'ing, playing games (Asphalt 5, Tilt 3D, etc.) taking video's and I even left the camera flash on for the last 3-1/2 hours because I was tired of trying to make it finally die...and no I'm certianly not a heavy user I'm 2 busy with school for that but I'm a definate medium user with consistant texting and at least 1/2 hour of daily calls usage, and checking my forum through the XDA app on my phone and facebook...so deff medium.

But peep my youtube video I put the link to in the beginning of this thread for a more detailed perspective on what to expect.
[Epic 4G Accessories] J31Rob:
Sold me. Ordering now.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
Sho-nuff don't be shy to comment back with results once you get it.
[Epic 4G Accessories] J31Rob:
Werd.

I'm a power user.. I'll review it. Only thing I'm gonna dread is having to uncase my phone until a new case comes out for the bigger pack. I've had the phone 3ish months now & it gets dropped here & there, but there isn't a single scratch on it due to the Seidio case & screen protector. I'm willing to give it up for a bit though to actually get a full days worth of use outa my phone.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
I know I can agree cause I had the Siedio case on my EPIC B4 I went to the extended battery and it did me luuvly justice with functionality and all that. Even you being a power user if your on this I'd GUARANTEE at LEAST 36 hours...and that's if your really killing this phone constantly using it...but we all sleep...and when you put the phone in your pocket a lot of the time the charge won't move not 1% for 2 or 3 hours if left alone(with nothing running of course)....that's how good this battery holds a charge...you'll see for yourself thoe.
[Epic 4G Accessories] J31Rob:
Good deal. What sold me is the fact that just about everything you mentioned in your video.. I do as well. SetCPU @ 100mhz-1ghz conservative, brightness @ lowest setting.. etc etc.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
Oh yea...sounds good, I'm a naturally particular and detail oriented person so this also applies to my EPIC as you saw in the video...glad I could be of some help.
[Epic 4G Accessories] ultra78721:
My results:o

I turned the phone off and charged it at 10pm last night at 71% or somewhere around there:rolleyes:

Fully charged when I woke up (blue light on)

This may vary to everyone else ,but this is how much power I use.

Phone is stock, Display brightness is at 0% web browsing at 25% bluetooth and gps on all day.

Disconnected at 930am ..Normally I'm Charging the battery by 230pm and its at 54% that's with the non extended:(

The only different thing I did was raise the light display from 0% to 25%:)

When I got home at 830pm tonight it was at 59%:eek:

And since I got home, I have been trying to kill the battery So i can do the conditioning.By turning display on full bright, playing games,gps on etc. Its 1151pm and battery is at 16% still going strong:eek:

According to tony i would get more life after i condition the battery:)

Battery Me likes So Far :p
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
That's right and ya boy Tony can vouch for that statement from personal experience with this and regular batteries after conditioning them...I hope u let that battery die that night. 9:30 to 11:51 is apprx. 14-1/2 hours with everything on trying to kill it...it took me around 13 hours abuse time to kill it th first time, a charge cycle later on regular usage I got 40+ hours out of it...and a couple cycles later I got the 60+ hours, now I consistantly get around 50+ hours give or take depending on usage.

Make sure you run that battery down a few more times...then turn all those data services off to get some real world usage #'s and see how u like going from a 1/2 day of usage to 2 days medium usage ;-)
[Epic 4G Accessories] IcOpRo:
Well I just ordered mine, well actually 2 of them ^^, cant wait to get them, Ill see how they work on mine, I am a heavy user of my phone, so this should be interesting, also when Im working, since I work visiting different accounts (Supermarkets) my signal strength is not the best out there some store I have no signal what so ever, and we all know thats a batt killer right there, so Ill post my results when I get them bad boys ^^..
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
Sho-nuff if we get consistant numbers from more than a few users it will really help the confidence of contemplating buyers of this battery...question thoe...why 2 lol?
[Epic 4G Accessories] ultra78721:
Update:D

The day after, I did the same thing disconnected @930am ,Came home at 830pm.

1st day @830pm 59%

2nd day @830pm 57% (And I used the phone noticeably more Talked more and I used 4g for an hour)

So yes, I definite got more power with the second charge:eek:

The third day ,witch was last night:( I went out with some buddys and got Blasted and dint get home till the 5am in the morning.:rolleyes: so no 830pm results:o

3rd day :(

4th day when I woke up at 1220pm 52% And I use it as much as the first day.

(@ night I dint use it much)

To me it seems this battery drains slower after u used 50% of its power.

Maybe its not calibrated right:confused: yet

The first two days after the 830pm I heavily used it to kill the battery, So i can condition it. At that point when im starting , I'm almost @ the 50% mark and I'm up past 12 in the morning trying to kill this thing:eek: The second day was even longer!!

I noticeably can tell..the last 50% life ,last longer than the 100% To 51% life

I'm very happy with this battery and I do no regret buying it.

My sister has an Epic and I told her about my results so shes ordering one to.

Note

I went looking everywhere online for the case(NOT THE DOOR:p) to the extended battery and have not had any luck....I hate seen my baby naked from the rear..dont want that lens to get scratched:(

I just cant wait ,for the seller moretalktime ..to start selling the case for the extended battery this January 1st:cool: especially at 50% off,with the purchase of these batts;)

Thankfully/Hopefully the cases should be in January 1st at half price :D

Till then I got to baby my epic
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
Ummm I kinda got that feeling to but in all that infrmation you didn't really give any specific 100% to 0% numbers in hours...your stats are kind of confusing, but I didn't know he was coming out with a case...where did you see that?
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
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[Epic 4G Accessories] ultra78721:
This is based upon My Usage :o

Everyday is the same thing , if there is a difference it would be noticeable.

I based my results from when I disconnect at 930am till when i get home at 830pm. Without getting into detail. I don't see how its confusing:confused: ,It is very simple .

I pretty much use the phone the same way everyday at work, unless I am required to go out which I was the second day.And I hardly even do that.

Everyone's usage is different:) Lets just say I get more then double the power with this battery;) And everyone with that purchases this battery should get the same results ..That is of course if they use it every day the same way.

And as far as the cover

Its on the epic battery listings from more talk time(CASES SHOULD BE AVAILABLE BY JANUARY 1ST. 50% OFF TO CUSTOMERS WHO BUY DOOR AND BATTERY FROM ME):D:D:D:D:D

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And the guy who posted the brick phone ...I assume he posted that to say the battery is a brick. It is not that thick..

To me personally it is well worth it. I hate managing the power of the phone and charging it in the middle of the day or exchanging batteries..I ain't got time for that.

With this battery I can use the crap out of it all day and night to the wee hours of the morning and not worry about charging it.

Managing the battery life is the thing of the past thanks to this battery.

Now, I can have my screen lit bright have my 4g,gps,wifi,bluetooth and animated wall paper FULL TIME ON :eek: and have my 4 syncs update 3 times an hour and don't even have to worry about using my battery up.

If i was to do that with the regular battery in 4 hours it would die if not sooner:eek:
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
I get the fact that you have a half battery left when you take it off the charger at 9:30am and get home at 8:30...but your not "RECONDITIONING" unless you let the battery DIE after you charge it all the way up...how long in HOURS not time from your daily schedule has this battery lasted for you so far...it's a one # answer in HOURS...all I'm seeing is the usage from 100% to the end of your day at 8:30 pm...idk, are you charging it back up over night from that 50% or what?

that's my confusion...break it down for me?

and I'm averaging 3x my usage with the 1500mAh battery that I used to average 12-15 HOURS on...because I'm averaging 48 HOURS with this extended battery feel me.
[Epic 4G Accessories] IcOpRo:
Oh I use a wall charger, and I like to just replace the dead one with a new one. so while Im using one I got one always fully charged.

And also when I mean I beat the living crap out of my battery in my phones I really do mean it ..... It doesn't hurt to have a spare one ^^.

How do you recommend calibrating or conditioning the battery
[Epic 4G Accessories] muyoso:
See, thats why I think the "hours" measurement is kinda BS. A 2800 mAh battery CANNOT give 3x the battery life vs a 1500 mAh battery if nothing is changed in usage or settings. Its not even double the mAh. Now if your stock 1500 mAh battery was worn down to around 1000 mAh which will happen over time, then you might be seeing near 3x the battery life. Otherwise something in the settings or usage has to change to achieve those kind of results, unless of course the 2800 mAh battery is really a 4500 mAh battery.

Also, measuring hours isn't comparable from person to person, because literally everything affects your battery life. If person A has zero widgets and person B has 15, even if they use the phone the exact same with the exact same settings, their results will be drastically different. Also, the strength of people's signal, screen brightness, wifi use, websites visited, flash usage, phone call length, text message numbers, etc all will effect battery life in various ways.

I think the only real way to measure battery life so that you can compare one battery to another is to remove as many of these variables as possible. The true best test would be to factory reset the phone, place it in airplane mode, turn the screen on max brightness and timeout to never, and then wait. That would take way too long though, probably 12-24 hours, but it removes basically every variable.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
Awww man...I'm not trynna turn this into an argument I'm just a VERY objective minded person and I'm VERY str8 forward with things...the fact of the matter is that I wouldn't take any velidity from some lab test where you just sit a phone down in airplane mode and see how long it stays on because that's not realistic by any stretch. In my youtube video I stated what we can all agree is medium REALWORLD usage of a cellphone...3+ hours of talk time, a few hours of internet usage and backround data on, and 300+ text messages over a 60 hour (2-1/2 day) period of time...a few widgets isn't going to have a major effect on usage and length of usage time, the only thing we can compare with is Sync data, GPS, Wireless location, 4G, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and whatever else is an obvious battery hog...the rest is 2 damn particular because people are 2 different...so I believe if 2 people have the same BASIC settings on the same phone they should be able to compare numbers the same way...

Even when I got 20 hours out of my 1500mAh battery that's when I didn't use it that much...but if I talked on the phone at all I could watch the battery meter go down as I talked even for 5 minutes. But if I use the phone on a normal basis I'm in the red about 15 hours give or take a few hours later...with this battery I'm in the red minimum 40 hours later...that's around 2-3x the battery life...and no it's not double the size of 1500mAh...but I've been through a good amount of charge cycles with this battery and REALITY shows me an average of 40+ hours 2800mAh vs an average of 12-15+ hours 1500mAh....you can nitpick all day but that's what the new situation is str8 like that.
[Epic 4G Accessories] muyoso:
See, the thing is that sometimes I got 6-7 hours out of the stock battery, and sometimes I got over 40. Sometimes there are services that get stuck running and stop the phone from sleeping. Sometimes you get a TWS of 0% and your battery lasts all day. Using juicedefender I can double my times. All of these things are variables.

Testing a battery by taking the radios and widgets and everything out of the equation gives us a baseline. Say playing a video for instance at high brightness and volume, with nothing else running or happening.

For example:

If the stock battery gets 4 hours, the Yoobao 2800 mAh gets 8 hours, the 3500 mAh gets 9 hours, then these are numbers we can work with. So we have that as a baseline, we can safely assume certain things, such as:

If a person is getting 12 hours with whatever setup they are running on the STOCK battery, and the Yoobao is known to have almost exactly double the battery life (8 hours of playing video vs the 4 hours of playing video), then we can safely assume that this person will get around 24 hours from it without changing any settings.

Haha, not trying to nitpick man, just have a different method of testing. To each their own.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
You Can recondition the battery by charging it up to 100% out of the package...and doing somethin that's going to kill the battery in a short amount of time...charge the phone (preferably turned off if u can) back to 100% and let it die again with egular usage or just the process of your daily life...repeat this process about 3-4 times and you'll notice a difference ASAP.

What this does I break the battery's full range of cells in and adjusts the phone to recognize the new capacity of the bigger battery both at the same time.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
Well you are nitpickin my man lol....not a problem that's why were here to talk about it...but I'm going to have to disagree (again)...and I'll explain to you why.

I'm a realist....and I can respect what your saying about the mAh's and what the numbers SHOULD look like...but the fact of the matter is this...with my stock 1500mAh battery I used the phone real scary (meaning I didn't want to make calls or use the internet as so not to use any extra battery) because the hours I got out of it was that bad, the most I got out of the stock 1500mAh was 20 hours and I averaged 12 to 15 with regular "scary" usage barely making any calls...everything extra (data, wi-fi, gps, bluetooth, etc.) OFF.

I get the 2800mAh battery and after about 4 conditioning runs...as you saw in the youtube video...I used it MORE than I usually would use my phone with 3 + hours on the phone, a few hours on the web, and over 300 txt's over a 60 hour time frame...to me 60hrs/15hrs = 4x my average 1500mAh discharge time....damn what it's supposed to be, that's what happend and that's what it is...there is no way to fake results you can't cheat and plug it in or anything because it gets reset as we all know....now I've had this battery a few weeks now and I STILL average anywhere from 40 to 50 hours with realistic usage....regular usage....more than I'd use it on the stock 1500mAh battery becase I know I have the extended joint...to me that's as real as it's gonna get, and these are results people can relate to...we don't live in a lab with our phones in airplane mode all day...and niether did I when I got any of these numbers...take it or leave it Mr. muyoso.
[Epic 4G Accessories] ultra78721:
No wonder you dont understand you are not reading my entire post:confused:

READ READ READ:rolleyes:

(((Disconnected at 930am ..Normally I'm Charging the battery by 230pm and its at 54% that's with the non extended

The only different thing I did was raise the light display from 0% to 25%

When I got home at 830pm tonight it was at 59%

And since I got home, I have been trying to kill the battery So i can do the conditioning.By turning display on full bright, playing games,gps on etc. Its 1151pm and battery is at 16% still going strong

According to tony i would get more life after i condition the battery

Battery Me likes So Far )))
[Epic 4G Accessories] ultra78721:
Im getting more than double the power....More like double and a half:D sometimes it seems like 3x than stock.....That's to my regular use.;)

But now since I got this battery I don't pay attention to whats running or what is not. I have everything on gps,bluetooth,4g,wifi,screen brightness at 25%, syncs update more per hour.:D

Me likes...

That 3500 battery does the same worse or better but those batteries don't last as long and start losing power as u recharge them more and more.

Back in the days when the pda axim/ipaq where in style.

I use to buy them all the time and they where cheap on ebay.

They did the work and all. But after a few months they would not hold the power any longer. Nobody else had them so I reordered them.

And after a few months bam the same thing happens:o
[Epic 4G Accessories] tony45x220:
You make it sound like you've had the battery for more than a few charge cycles but read my reply to some other guy who has the same point of view as you do and you'll peep my logic...I'm just a straight forward kind of guy and I just don't see the relivance with the 2:30 at 50suttin % with the regular because that's still not trekking me or anyone else how long a FULL DISCHARGE CYCLE is for either the stock or extended battery is...uknow, let me know if I'm making any sense to myself or to you too lol?
[Epic 4G Accessories] belyakov1976:
Do you guys know the difference between these two?

Ebay Item #130450945198 vs #130465404050
[Epic 4G Accessories] eddieyee:
They look the same to me... Other than the Price... $12.98 vs $28.00... Both are $7 shipping. Noticed one is standard shipping and the other is economy shipping.. Not sure what that means though.