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[Fascinate Android Development] saps:
Tremendous points and actually before I test the synthetics this is actually what I do. Some of my personal tests include time boot up, going to manage applications and seeing how long icons take to appear, going into task manager and hitting packages and seeing how long icons take to appear there too, [I use LP+] so change shortcut and select application [again for time]. I open the browser and pimp around, same thing with Handcent, the gallery, the camera and the music player. So when I make a blanket statement like the real world stuff is fast thats what I mean.

Now I do know not everyone uses Handcent for messaging, some people use xscope for browser, I dont have K9, and some people use winamp or poweramp. So yes there is tremendous diversity amongst the apps we use. Its kinda the classic YMMV, I use and test the apps I personally run. If I dont have something on my phone thats just how it is. So like any review or recommendation yes you have to take what I say with a grain of salt I guess.

For better or worse what neither myself nor Geeknik or anyone quite frankly does is switch roms just for the purpose these kernel tests or DL apps just for the purpose of testing. To an extent as well hardware does vary so I can say my GPS locks in in 5 seconds and I can tell you how I did it and you can replicate my procedure and not have the same result.

Believe me when I tell you if I say to someone hey I tested this kernel and its good, I didnt just run Quadrant once and see a big number and jump to a conclusion. In the future I can and will make more of an effort to highlight some of the real world stuff I test with. Again though I can and will only test the stuff I have and use. So for instance, I dont have FB at all so I wont be reporting on that. I do have a small BW on my main homescreen and I will report how fast it loads; even there for those who dont have BW they'll be like who cares. Bottom Line is you cannot please everyone all the time. Admittedly, Im also not a professional kernel tester and geeknik, jt and all the dev's work on donation only and we all know they are grossly under-donated too.

All your points are fair though; the reason I test is I do like to be as helpful as I can and I see the room for improvement you noted. In the future my recommendations will be even more thoroughly detailed but as aforementioned maybe still limited in their scope of app usage and testing.

And btw both geeknik and I run jt's clean rom fwiw
[Fascinate Android Development] wowser21:
I'm not going to install this kernel just yet just because the previous version is running so well on my device. I used to have very crappy battery life (~7-8hrs with moderate-high use). Since running jt's rom and your kernel i can go about 24hrs before i need to charge. I run 11 widgets that update often and i have live wallpaper going (not to mention push email for work as well as gmail).

Thanks again for such a great kernel.
[Fascinate Android Development] andmer:
Superb! Encore, encore!
[Fascinate Android Development] geeknik:
Glad it is working well for you. =)
[Fascinate Android Development] ktez:
First of all, I am running your original stable StupidFast and loving it! I even convinced my hubby to try it and he lives it too even tho he is not into modding phones or any of that. Now a question - I flashed this version to try it, really liked the idea of a UV kernel, but even after reading the original post thoroughly and installing the backlight on/off appt, I can't figure out how to make the BLNs work - the backlight appt wont let me turn them on, it says they are not available on this kernel. Call me crazy, but I can't live without the BLN, what am I missing to make them work on this? Thank you again for all your excellent work!
[Fascinate Android Development] danrosinski:
can you run this kernel on the mesmerize?
[Fascinate Android Development] abowlofsoda:
Hey man I have to point out that I appreciate everything both you, the testers, and the developers do. I can see how I come off as ungrateful.. I'm tottally a fan of this kernel. I check this thread obsessively all day!

Donation for geeknik is on my mind but money it tight so it might happen on payday.

Your right that we can't replicate the same thing on every device. I get that. I just noticed that every time someone reported no crackling issue they said they tried with the stock player or with Pandora. I've posted quite a few times saying there was no issue in stock player so it got frustrating.

I reported a few times about the audio issue and which players had the issue and I specifically said stock player didn't show any signs of it. Then someone chimes in and says they don't have the issue and they say they tried with the stock player! /boggle

I can tell you I don't have the live wallpaper crash issue but I don't run live wallpapers. So of course I'm probley not going to have the issue.

Also I just find it hard to fatham that people are seriously using the stock music player. This device sound NICE. You should hear your music thru the different EQ presets thru PowerAMP. It sounds amazing in the car.

I'm trying to knock down this kernel - I'm just an end user and I chime in hoping that someone might enlighten me on a solution. Already someone figured out the setCPU thing to fix the issue and thats what i'm doing. Hopin its a short term solution as like I said before- its killing my battery life!
[Fascinate Android Development] NOsquid:
I agree with you that poweramp sounds great in the car, you don't need a trained ear to tell the difference. I'm just telling you now, if that's going to be the measure of every major modification you try, you might end up disappointed more than the average user. That thing made my phone freeze several times (not on this kernel). I think it's just a very resource-hungry app that doesn't tend to play nice, might not be uber-refined at this stage in its development also.
[Fascinate Android Development] Piercing Heavens:
Running stock music player here! I ride a chopper and I can't hear **** while driving anyway.
[Fascinate Android Development] absens:
Finally gonna jump the voodoo boat and try this out.

From a rooted I-500 with XDA

Okay wow, you win.
[Fascinate Android Development] saps:
Understood and I didnt mean to imply you were ungrateful if you got that sense, sorry.

Its one of those things. Some people rave about the music and adore PowerAMP, I have spent less than 20 minutes listening to music on this phone, ever; thats just me. Others rave about the camera and videos it makes. In 2+ months of owning the SF I've taken 36 pictures and made 2 vids totaling less than 2 minutes, others are doing that in a day. Some play angry birds for hours, I tried it twice for maybe an hour total and havent touched it in many many days. But by all means I can appreciate your points where you want solutions to the problems you encounter
[Fascinate Android Development] saps:
:D now you know why they say jt and geeknik are voodoo killers
[Fascinate Android Development] f4ion1:
I rarely use my phone for Music.

But I use Google Listen for Podcasts 95% of the time when I'm on the road. That is where I was getting the popping and crackling.
[Fascinate Android Development] NKT:
Is this kernel dependent on a specific ROM (stock,custom)?
[Fascinate Android Development] ibegary:
Any results compared to his Stock voltage? Would like to see some number and comparisons.

Loving the stock voltage test btw.
[Fascinate Android Development] tlogank:
No, you can install it on any ROM/stock setup.
[Fascinate Android Development] NKT:
Excellent, thank you!
[Fascinate Android Development] imnuts:
Running the same as the 1.1.23 kernel for me. Quadrant score was similar on both, then again, it's been similar for all of geeknik's kernels.
[Fascinate Android Development] danrosinski:
Can you run this on the mesmerize?
[Fascinate Android Development] aroy002:
can someone explain real quick how this kernel works to optimize the speed? Does it no longer have to do with RFS being slow... or does it optimize RFS itself?

thanks
[Fascinate Android Development] bradlove17:
Thanks to the devs for all of their great work!

I just came to say that I've been getting the sound crackling/skipping with the stock music player. It doesn't seem to crackle/skip when you are ONLY listening to music, but it does do it when you try and multitask (music and other apps at the same time). Just thought I would share.

thanks again!
[Fascinate Android Development] abowlofsoda:
I just tried that and yes, If I'm playing a song thru stock player and go check my email it does the popping.
[Fascinate Android Development] abowlofsoda:
I also found a new workaround for the popping problem. If I lock the screen the popping stops. I'm controlling my music thru a lockscreen widget and its avoiding the pops. Whats also notable is I can have the screen lit looking at the lockscreen widget without issues. Unlock the lockscreen and its back to popping.

I can recreate the problem in Music PlayerPro, PowerAmp, Google Listen, and Stock Player (while multitasking in stock)
[Fascinate Android Development] KrInEn:
Not sure if it had been brought up, only bug I see is when using juice defender there is major lag when pulling down notifications.

Other than that amazing work!
[Fascinate Android Development] f4ion1:
I can confirm when I lock the phone while the audio is playing that it plays perfectly.
[Fascinate Android Development] pokedroid:
This guy works much better than 1.1.4 in terms of battery life, IMO. thank you!
[Fascinate Android Development] johnnyv5:
yes, yes it does. NOrmally I would be at around 55%, but now I have 68% available.

jv
[Fascinate Android Development] mastibeta:
Bln

I an trying to enable bln...can't get it to work...tried jt in rom manager...only has disable option.
[Fascinate Android Development] geeknik:
Hey guys, thanks for all the kind words, glad you all like my kernels. I'm not sure what is causing that pause/delay but I will definitely look into it. I don't want any lag when my kernels are being used. =)
[Fascinate Android Development] geeknik:
Check the OP for an update to 1.2.3. I think I fixed the lag that some people were complaining about. =) Let me know.
[Fascinate Android Development] danrosinski:
clockwork said update.zip failed e signature verification is there another way of doing a nandroid backup to get the tools that let me navigate to a zip and will work for the signature verification?
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
6 Hours, running Pandora over WiFi. 93% to 74%.

Damn.

Screen was off and all, but even so, that ... blows my mind. I keep thinking I had to have read it wrong, but it still says 74%.

So either you have created the most battery conservative kernel on the planet, or my battery stats are absolutely hosed. (No, that was serious, my stats are probably hosed. It wouldn't shock me in the least)

Using 1.2.2 and Blackhole 1.3 ROM.

Have had no FCs. ...and considering for the last 2 days the damned phone hasn't been working *at all*, well...saying I am relieved is putting it mildly.

Note to self: Static electricity and the USB port on these things = Very Bad Things. *sigh*

I think I might actually have it working now....for the most part. (Anyone got a Fascinate they bought BOGO and are looking to get rid of on the cheap??) :o
[Fascinate Android Development] abowlofsoda:
Mission accomplished :) Good job
[Fascinate Android Development] aroy002:
I'm really curious to try this kernel but I was wondering, how is it achieving such performance boost without ext4? Have modifications been done to optimize RFS, or is it something completely different? In other words, how does this work? haha

Also, how does this compare to the 11/16 JT UV kernel w/ voodoo? Does it have more optimizations than that one?
[Fascinate Android Development] nmyeti:
New kernel is working pretty awesome. I tested with PowerAmp and have zero popping when multitasking with music on in the background or just moving around inside the UI of the phone.

Only thing I noticed was that the lock screen kind of freaks out on poweramp when I hit the "home" button sometimes and takes me to my EAS password screen. I've been running JTs kernels and never noticed this before.

I'm going to keep an eye on battery, but honestly i wasn't complaining about it previously as JTs clean rom beats my old incredible by a long shot.
[Fascinate Android Development] mastibeta:
Can anyone help enable bln
[Fascinate Android Development] neozen21:
I just updated to 1.2.23 and I'm still having issues with live wallpapers.

This happens usually when I unlock the phone, as soon as I match the puzzle, it will say the live wallpaper is not responding and ask to either wait or force close. I select wait, and everything is OK. Strange thing is, it doesn't happen everytime I unlock, maybe 50% of the time...

Other than this, I'm not having any issues so far, no sound popping, USB seems OK.

I'm running stock ROM, with LP+, no TWZ.

Keep up the great work!
[Fascinate Android Development] iceman1183:
Fixed my hanging on opening/closing dolphin hd. Strong work, just as fast as the regular voltage now.

So sick, thanks for your hard work geeknik
[Fascinate Android Development] nmyeti:
Wanted to update, have popping in google listen
[Fascinate Android Development] billypickett:
How do you install stupid first kernel
[Fascinate Android Development] iceman1183:
Flash it in clockworkmod...if you don't know what that means, don't try it. Use the search button on these forums first.
[Fascinate Android Development] abowlofsoda:
you need to root then install Clockwork mod. You boot into Clockwork to flash the kernel.

I'm too lazy to make a guide... should be enough Google keywords there for ya.
[Fascinate Android Development] ChrisDDD:
That's the exact same problem I was having, although with widgets on the home screen (beautiful widgets and extended controls), not wallpapers (not using a live wallpaper). When I'd unlock the phone, I'd get the same message. And like you, it didn't happen all the time.

If that can be fixed, I'll give the kernel another try... seemed stable otherwise and I'm always up for improving battery life.
[Fascinate Android Development] mexiken:
Am I missing something ???? I'm getting HORRIBLE battery life.

I did recently install Foursquare and do use it daily but that is showing as using less than 10% battery life at all times when I check the battery use menu. I'm literally going 7 hours (I unplugged at 11ish and its now 5:50 here) and the battery is at 8%

Anyone have any suggestions for wiping battery stats ???? Is that what the CWM line does ???? The reason I ask is because I've noticed that sometimes, I can flash a kernel, or pull battery, or restart, etc, and all of a sudden, I have 30% MORE battery life than I just did less than 1 minute ago. Its also worked against me, where I restart phone, and I lost 20-40% juice. What would be the culprit in this case ????
[Fascinate Android Development] neyenlives:
Yes, there is a method for "recalibrating" your battery status.

I have no idea what it involves, but I have seen it described in the #samsung-fascinate channel in irc.freenode.net

Geek, the lockscreen is even faster now...wewt
[Fascinate Android Development] mexiken:
Thanks for the prompt response. Right now as I plugged it in and downloaded 1.2.23, I turned off phone with 6% left. Flashed kernel, and it rebooted. Its now showing the phone at 30% after literally 5 mins....something is wonky....

I guess I'll try to jump onto the IRC later tonight and see if anyone is willing to help. Thanks
[Fascinate Android Development] cckeeler:
Kernal is working great! Thanks
[Fascinate Android Development] draco259:
This kernel is awesome thank you for all the work, havent seen any bugs yet. Battery life is outstanding! Will donate for sure.
[Fascinate Android Development] geeknik:
Glad you like it. =)

No, you can install this kernel with any ROM you want on the Fascinate.

Yeah, I think I've hit a wall as far as speed goes until Froyo comes out. =)

You're welcome! =)

You're welcome! =)

Cool, thank you! =)
[Fascinate Android Development] iTz Nicholas72:
Runs way faster than VooDoov and gives me much greater battery life.

This kernel with Blackhole is what the Fascinate should have been until Verizon/Samsung had to bloat it up.
[Fascinate Android Development] egg_head:
Im getting popping too...

Bummer.

Im running Zinc ROM.

It will randomly start while I'm driving with no interaction with the device.

My little brother is having the same problems and he's running the same ROM as I am.

[tapatalk on android]
[Fascinate Android Development] draco259:
Just curious, but how do I tell what kernel I currently have running? Thanks
[Fascinate Android Development] destroyerbmx:
I heard of a .32 kernel that birdman compiled I am just wondering where it is. Can we run it in 2.1?
[Fascinate Android Development] crispybacon:
Any idea of when this will be moved to stable like the others?

Keep up the good work, i'm loving the older kernel. Finally got rid of Voodoo ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] Jmjohnson1717:
Anyone else have problems with there gps using this kernel. I can turn it on but have to turn it off though the settings menu. Other wise worked great for me. Using black hole rom
[Fascinate Android Development] samscinate:
Turn your phone off and charge it full. Power it in recovery and apply update to get into CWR. Wipe battery stats and it should be back to normal.
[Fascinate Android Development] chrisexv6:
Im noticing I might be getting worse battery life as well.

Nothing funky with the level indicator (i.e. rebooted with X% left and when it came back up on the new kernel it basically had X% left), but overnight I lost more % than normal with everything just idling and the same few apps I have syncing every night.

Wondering whats up. This is the first "odd" thing Ive had happen on any of the stupidfast kernels.
[Fascinate Android Development] deaffob:
I can confirm that changing the minimum CPU oc fixes the sound crackling.
[Fascinate Android Development] godihatework:
Still experiencing live wallpaper force close after screen wake up. Had to go to jt's lv test kernel which is nearly as fast.
[Fascinate Android Development] thefunkbot:
this kernel is draining my battery so fast :eek:

over night the battery drained from 95% to 60% with the screen off and no apps running.
[Fascinate Android Development] chrisexv6:
Mine is draining a little faster than normal but nothing like that.

Went from 93% to 82% from about 11PM to 7AM.

On the 1.1.23 kernel the same exact test only lost about 7%.
[Fascinate Android Development] andmer:
battery life is great for me.

I fully charged before i went to sleep 100%, woke up 7ish hours later at 99% somehow.

I'm using superpower to manage data and sync.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=807989
[Fascinate Android Development] chrisexv6:
Id be interested to know the consumption without superpower because I currently dont use it (figured I didnt really need to considering most of the day the phone just sits idle and the only thing drawing power is autosync with gmail and outlook)
[Fascinate Android Development] andmer:
3G draws power.
[Fascinate Android Development] johnnyv5:
Does 3g draw more power then wifi?

jv
[Fascinate Android Development] crispybacon:
No wifi draws more power than 3g.
[Fascinate Android Development] mrodsunshine:
quick question about flashing kernals: (forgive me if i'm beating a dead horse, but im still relatively new to the android scene)

once i flash this kernel, if i want to get back to a stock kernel, would loading up a backup through clockwork mod be enough? or do i need to go the data wipe/odin route such as for voodoo?
[Fascinate Android Development] crispybacon:
I'm pretty sure since it's not a Voodoo kernel you can just flash any other non-Voodoo kernel or even a Voodoo kernel over it. You only have to use the uninstaller when you have a Voodoo kernel and you want to get a non-Voodoo kernel i believe.
[Fascinate Android Development] devlp1213:
no backups do not back up the kernel, you simply flash the stock kernel in cwm.should not need to wipe anything.

voodoo kernels do not need a wipe either. and you only have to the voodoo uninstaller if the "disable_lagfix"file was not properly done the first time
[Fascinate Android Development] mrodsunshine:
thanks for the response!
[Fascinate Android Development] deaffob:
3G draws more battery than wifi. Actually, a lot more.
[Fascinate Android Development] chrisexv6:
is there any logical explanation for getting worse battery performance with this kernel vs a non-UV?

It bothers me that my battery usage has gone up, to the point I might go back to a non-UV kernel but it makes me wonder if the non-UV kernel will show the same issue?

Only thing I did differently was added the matte blue theme and use the backgrounds app to set a background. Cant see how those would affect battery power that much (Ive since gone to a fairly barebones background to eliminate any power the display might need to display a complex image)
[Fascinate Android Development] neyenlives:
I have found by simply hitting the power button to lock the screen makes it go away completely. So when streaming Pandora or listening to local media I start it playing, plug in the headphones and then hit the power/lock button and all is good. No more popping.
[Fascinate Android Development] jonnyviking:
I'm still fairly new to this so sorry if this is a stupid question. I just bought setcpu yesterday because i see a lot of people are recommending it. Are there settings you guys would recommend i use? I saw a couple pages back that min should be 200 to avoid the popping and that galaxy s phones should use conservative. What about max and any other settings? Thanks.

btw, i'm using this latest stupidfast kernel with superdark rom and absolutely loving how fast this phone is. Thanks Geek!
[Fascinate Android Development] geeknik:
I am going to try and get the popping/cracking fixed if I can track it down, however, I'm not releasing any new updates until Verizon releases the upcoming OTA maintenance release. Custom kernels (everyones, not just mine) are not 100% compatible with the update as they break haptic feedback. So bear with me for a bit longer on this issue. :cool:
[Fascinate Android Development] crispybacon:
Well since the kernel's a non-OC'd kernel i would just leave it at 1000 max and 200 min, set to conservative and set on boot. That's where mine is, I'm still using the older stupidfast kernel 1.0.36 and it works fine, with JT's Super Clean Rom.
[Fascinate Android Development] thefunkbot:
seriously this thing is draining my battery EXREMELY fast...

over night (about 8 hours) battery dropped from 95% to 68%

during school (7 hours) it dropped from 68% to 31%

all of this is with the screen turned off and no apps running.

i had 1.0.36 and had great battery life and i updated last night, which is when it started draining so fast.

Also, would the voodoo uninstaller work to uninstall this? and would it cause bad things to flash 1.0.36 over this version?
[Fascinate Android Development] crispybacon:
Since this isn't a Voodoo kernel i wouldn't use the Voodoo uninstaller. If you like 1.0.36 i believe you can just reinstall it over the kernel you have now, just like you did before.
[Fascinate Android Development] geeknik:
1.2.3 is draining your battery extremely fast? I find that hard to believe as it took me 18 1/2 hours yesterday to get to 8% on the battery before I plugged it in. What ROM are you using?

And yes, you can flash 1.0.36 over it if you want, it won't cause any issues.
[Fascinate Android Development] jonnyviking:
Cool. Thanks. Thats what i had it set at anyways but wanted to be sure.
[Fascinate Android Development] AlgorithmX:
You must have something else going on because I'm running this kernel and mine has only dropped 25% with 10 hours of moderate use.

Sent from my StupidFast, SuperDark Fascinate.
[Fascinate Android Development] thefunkbot:
JT's super clean rom