yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
kalove23,

I don't think you are the only one. It seems like TnT Lite 4.0.0 is more sensitive to the ordering of updates. I had to install TnT Lite 4.0.0 three times from scratch (with data wipes each time) before I was able to get the market fix working. What I learned is that if I follow the all steps exactly (no shortcuts), then it works fine. And it's not just for the market fix, it also refers to when I logon to Google the first time, when I restore my apps from TB, etc. Once I started combining steps or jumping over steps and do them in a slightly different order is when I began seeing issues (constant FCs, no Market Fix, etc.)

Now that I got everything just right, TnT 4.0.0 is the smoothest release (operationally) thus far
[G Tablet General] dehidding:
keyboard & market issues

Running 3.1.4 (downshifted from 4.0) and I can only utilize TnT keyboard. Alternate keyboards install and show up in settings and Android says that they are running, but never show up with a long keypress in a text field. Anyone else see this?

Additionally, i thought I had the full market, but many keyboards are missing from the market. I've run the market fix until I've just given up - nothing seems to be helping.
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
Pretty sure TnT doesn't let you just install keyboards. I recall them having to be pushed from ADB to work. Maybe that has changed. I don't even recall TnT letting you select them in settings. There was a way to change the settings menu to the stock Android type so you could select them, and then another file you could run to get the TnT settings menu back since removing it screws up other things. TnT is a giant pain in the neck..
[G Tablet General] realsol:
That's not correct. I have been using Smart Keyboard for a while in TNT. You have to move the APK file from the /Data/App directory to the /system/app directory and make sure the permissions are right (normally the first column is check and the second first column is check.). Then reboot. Goto an input screen, long press, select input type and choose your keyboard.
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
I installed 4.0 last night and have had no problem whatsoever. New here by the way. Bought a Gtab just before Christmas after finding this site. Thanks to all for your hard work
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
Basically what I said. You can't just normally install them. My explanation may have been too generic but the meaning was the same.
[G Tablet General] realsol:
PS: You will need to be using Root Explorer or something like it.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
TnT does not allow keyboard installs, but the move with RE allows the use of them. One of the nutty things about the ever ingenious Tap n Tap UI.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Reverting back to 3.1.4

ROM-Manager fails backup and restore of ROM's, Tech news app FC, Market FC on "my apps".

I didn't mind giving up 512k for the speed bump but the inconsistancy of system stability combined with backup and recovery issues is a little too dangerous to continue the experiment.

Will speed bump be available to test "stand alone"? Is it compatible with v3xx. I am supprised that we continue to be limited to 2gb as Archos has overcome this limitation with andriod 2.1 and 2.2 allowing the entire internal ram being available for apps. This is not actually an issue for me as I still have 75% free with 147 apps installed but it would Make the loss of Rom space to get the speed bump a none issue.

Oh well back to stability even though there is still the lag on wake issue (easily solved with a restart).
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
There's a standalone installer for this, it's buried in the data2loop thread. But, there's a recent update that might be a litle more stable, I need to test it out.

EDIT: Not sure that the new update is that stable,yet. But, here's the standalone that I created a few days back and was the basis for the update in TnT Lite 4.0.0: http://www.mediafire.com/?h2zesah4r6l8owq
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Does it still scarf up 512mb of device app space?
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
There are 2 kernels you can install to fix this that don't have the dataloop issue.
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Thanks for the link....I will check it out and see if it is stable on my Gtab. I should have done some research before posting, found and read the thread after asking.
[G Tablet General] copperdawgnc:
removing v4

I have tried to reflash earlier versions including stock and keep experiencing boot loops.

What is the correct proceedure? (I have repartitioned to 2048 so don't understand why this is happening)

I am now using clockworkmod

Thanks

I reflashed several times and then it worked!
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
Thanks.....I will look into this.
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
Gonna need to partition the sdcard. It is under advanced in clockwork mod. Use 2048, and 0 for the settings. Save anything important to your PC first by going to mounts and storage and then mounting usb storage.
[G Tablet General] thebadfrog:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=895825

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=903505

Didn't post links...thought I had
[G Tablet General] ItsDon:
I must be the luckiest guy out there.

I'm running 4.0 flawlessly. Never partitioned anything, have 58 apps installed and still have 1.1GB of space left (that's a LOT!), consistently pull 3100+ on Quadrant, GTab sleeps like a baby, battery last forever, Market gives me everything and nothing force closes. I did this all with just a Cache and Dalvik wipe with a flash right over 3.1.2.

I'm seriously going to have to stop reading this forum because if OP 'fixes' the bugs I know something will break on mine. :p

Sorry for all you folks having troubles but trust me it is possible to have the GTab be everything you imagined it to be. This is one hot little device!

EDIT: Oh, I do have one little problem - Market still won't show me the stars but I know that is a known issue. Any chance of that getting fixed?
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
You know your tablet is going to melt now right:D

Actually I agree that it is possible. Just like anything else preparation is the key. I still suspect a lot of problems are caused by not having a tablet completely free of old rom flashes.
[G Tablet General] jdnyc:
I've tried the factory reset/cache clean etc... in CWM and had the same results. What's another option? I'm so ready to try it if you have one. I'll delete whatever if it gets me there...
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
Every now and then I will use Nvflash to go back to stock. It puts your tablet back as close to how it left the factory as we can get. I use clockwork to wipe data, do a factory reset, wipe dalvik, and then I run Nvflash. Here is the link.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=861950&highlight=nvflash
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
It worked flawlessly for me, as well - but data wipes and nvflashes are part of my repertoire, plus I'm not as heavy a power user as some of you.

I still think the removal of data2loop is important - again, it can always be an addon. What really bugs me is what the heck happened to 3452? Why did they pull it??
[G Tablet General] copperdawgnc:
How do I find the software build number I am running?

Like the software version on android phones

I was using 4 but it wiped all the data on my SD card.
[G Tablet General] johnkapp:
The last tiime I rebuilt my system from scratch, this is the process I followed (Be careful, try this at your on risk. It appears that everyone has their own experience with these units):

1) I powered the unit off. Then I powered it on holding the volume down button.

2) I have clockworkmod .8 on my system and it started.

3) I did a Wipe Dalvik cache

4) I did a partition SD card - 2048, 0

5) I did a Wipe Data/factory reset

6) I used mounts and storage to mount my GTAB as USB storage for my PC

7) I copied the unzipped copy of GTAB_TNT_LITE_V400 to the SDCARD

8) I copied the zip file IANDOP_REVERSAL-TNT_LITE4.zip to the SDCARD

9) I copied a text file with the build.prop change for Market to the SDCARD

10) I used install zip from SDCARD to install the update.zip file in the folder GTAB_TNT_LIT_V400

11) I used install zip from SDCARD to install the IANDOP_REVERSAL-TNT_LITE4.zip file

12) I rebooted my system (It takes a good 3-5 minutes)

13) I setup my wireless connection

14) I started Market to verify it wasn't setup all the way. I had to login to Google to get in, like normal. I think you have to start Market once to go to the next step.

15) I did the standard market fix. Go to Settings, Applications, System Applications. Find and open Market. Clear the Market Cache. Force stop the Market application. Open Google Service Framework. Clear Data. By the way, the data should go to zero. If not, I think there is a problem. After the data is cleared, do a Force Stop on the Google Services Framework.

16) Go back and start Market. You will get an error.

17) Shut the system down and then restart it.

18) After the wireless starts, wait a few minutes and check Market. You should have the first partial Market. Download and install a copy of Root Explorer. You probably have to pay for it to get the tools you need for the next step.

19) Open Root Explorer. Scroll to the SDCARD. Open the file in the text editor that you stored the text with the new fingerprint record and copy the text.

20) Go back to the root and find the SYSTEM folder and open it. Change the folder to R/W. Open the build.prob file in the text editor and insert the new fingerprint above the old one. Put a # in front of the current fingerprint line and save the file. Set the directory back to R/O.

21) Power the unit down and back up. You should have the almost full market at this point. (You may have to fix the Market again with the steps above)

Once I got it working, I made a backup with CWM. There a several ways to improve this. If you have a copy of Root Explorer already, put it on the SDCARD with the other files at the beginning. Then you can change the fingerprint after you start the Market the first time. It will save you a few steps.

I had a sucessfully running Lite 4.00 on my GTAB that I had built without any wipes until I changed the fingerprint. After I did that, there was no choice but the clear everything.

If anyone has any suggestions on a better way to do this from scratch, I would appreciate it if you would share it. I have learned a lot from this site but even though this is my 3rd Android device, there is a lot more to learn.
[G Tablet General] SRTDOC:
I switch back t the 4.0.0 proto-type and its doing great I had the market problems every one was talking about. But np with the proto-type.
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
Prototype didn't have the bootloop, loopty loop, dataloop, boot2loop thing in it did it?

I don't like that thing. Glad you got it working..
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
Roebeet, I wanted to contribute to your wonderful rom. Attached is a boot.img file from TNT Lite 3.1 with the "G-Tab Devs" logo from VEGAn beta 5.1. I love the work you are doing and I love your rom. I keep bouncing back between VEGAn and TNT Lite and I I liked the second boot logo that the guys used in VEGAn and thought your hard worked deserved some props for you. Anyway, this replaces the "G-Tablet" second boot logo. Any chance this would hit the main build?

Thanks for all you do.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I appreciate it, but I actually made a conscious effort to keep the original GTablet logo in the boot.img in TnT Lite. That's not to say I won't change my mind at a later date, of course. :D

VEGAn is more of a developer's build in my mind, wheras TnT Lite is 90% stock, with just some extra stuff thrown in. That's why I don't add custom kernels to TnT Lite, either.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Correct. More of a reason to keep it out.

I'm giving the TnT folks a few days for a new release, then I might re-do 4.0.0 as 4.1.0 without the data2loop. I just wish they'd release something for real.

Do you mean the TnT Lite version? It's in Settings - About Tablet.
[G Tablet General] rayden25:
Ahh, Gotcha, makes sense. I just learned how to make update.zip files so I am going to do it for the people that want it. I figured you knew how to do it anyway, but I wasn't sure why you were leaving it there. I find that logo attrocious.
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
Yes, please keep TnTLite as stock as possible. And if an app can be had in the market I would like for it not to be included either.

An example of why I like the minimal approach.. I just went through a mess with my daughters Eris. Launcherpro had been installed in the rom. Well, Launcherpro must have done something with the old build and it was throwing up an expired warning and would not let you do anything. Her phone was broken for a week before I could figure out why she was calling me from her friends phone all the time. I had to pull launcherpro with adb because you could not update the installed version from the market. It was just a big pain for something that would have been really simple if it had not been built in to the rom.
[G Tablet General] bit_boy:
I must have got lucky

Just for your info, I must have got lucky with the 4.0 build. The original firmware was painful. The update was laggy. 4.0 was exactly what I knew my tablet could do.

Much thanks!!

Brian
[G Tablet General] joshua.lyon:
I prefer the custom logo. The stock gtablet one looks amateur. Maybe you should post it in a separate thread?
[G Tablet General] Sprdtyf350:
You mean like in this thread that he created?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=876488
[G Tablet General] Tester30:
Noobie mistake

Roe.

Thanks for the 4.0.0

I've done horrible thing, deliting everything..... got left with 3 angry birds.... that's all.

Went to the store and exchanged the tablet. Oops, do not know how to J-Tag it yet.

Installed 4.0.0...... No errors!!!!! Whatever you do, works here!!!

Kudos!!!!
[G Tablet General] New2Android:
hi roebeet,

i have been using version 2.0 since the day you brought it out. suddenly today i have been getting the following message

the application google services framework (process com.google.process.gapps) has stopped unexpectedly. pl. try again ------Force close

What coulde be the problem and how do i rectify it
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
hmmm, we know that's market related -- I hope Google hasn't caught on and done something. :O

Maybe retry the market hack to see if that helps?
[G Tablet General] New2Android:
tried market hack.

I am able to go into application and force stop both the google framework and market.

But when i go to titanium backup and look for google framework in backup/restore it is not there

What do i do now?
[G Tablet General] MattG999:
cant get TnT to work

I have flashed Clockworkmod and i get to the recovery mode (in the Closckworkmod) and then i chose the "apply sdcard:update.zip" and it looks like it flashes but it goes very quick. then I reboot.

But the system keeps booting to the regular software not the new TnT light.

I have downloaded the "tntlite version 2.0.0" and than unziped it to the Sdcard.

still not working, help.

thanks,

Update:

I went back and started from strach and this time it worked, so far. Yep im in. tks,
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Uh oh -- maybe it was deleted somehow? That could certainly explain both issues.
[G Tablet General] New2Android:
so what should i be doing now?

I am getting force close every time i try to download something from market
[G Tablet General] jacindc:
Need the old android.policy.jar file, please!

Both TweetDeck and WeatherBug Elite now don't work since installing the home key long press jar file. Can someone please post the vanilla android.policy.jar file from TnT 1.01, so I don't have to flash all the way back to vanilla and then reinstall everything?

Thanks....
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I would consider a reflash - something sounds really messed up, like maybe an apk was deleted. And, with root access, it's possible to delete system apks.
[G Tablet General] New2Android:
ok so if i want to do 2.02 i just use that update zip or first i need to reflash 2.o and then flash 2.02
[G Tablet General] khaytsus:
No, what you want to do is use AdFree's functionality to return the hosts file back to normal, not deny it su :confused::confused: Big Revert button should do it.
[G Tablet General] Ronin916:
Okay, here's a new question....

I've rooted the GTab and flashed with TnTLite 2.0.2. Here's my problem. I'm trying to figure out how to tether this to a Blackberry 9550 Storm 2 (yes, I know. I was young, what can I say?) I don't need blazing speed when away from home, but it would be nice to get access to the net even if it's over 3G.

I've tried to pair via Bluetooth, and while the GTab sees the Storm, it won't connect. I've tried running Tether for the Blackberry, but the GTab doesn't see it even if it's cable connected. I imagine this has to do with the USB port issue, and it doesn't pick it up on bluetooth.

I'm afraid I don't have the Android background to figure this one out. Does anyone have any ideas on a next step or a suggestion on how to go about doing this, assuming it can be done at all?
[G Tablet General] jacindc:
Just followed what Robeet had said about Denying. I ended up pushing it over via adb. Good to know for the future, though.
[G Tablet General] dcom222:
First off, thanks to everyone, especially roebeet, for all off their work in making this tablet a lot more usable!

I picked up a gTablet a few days ago and the touch screen didn't work properly, so I exchanged it yesterday. The new one came with a green cloth for the screen (I thought I'd seen where this might indicate there's something different about it).

Anyway, I flashed to the TnT Lite 2.02 and all was great (Flash, Market, Angry Birds, etc....). After a few hours of use I tried loading Pandora from the Market and got force close messages for a bunch of things (sorry - I didn't make note of what processes). I then turned of the tablet and then turned it back on. The table just kept looping between the Viewsonic and gTablet screens. I was able to recover to stock TnT and all looked OK. I flashed to 2.02 again, loaded a bunch of apps, and everything was working great. After several hours of use, I loaded up Yahoo Messenger. I decided to remove it using Uninstaller Pro, and again I got a bunch of force closes (gmail, others). After a restart I had the boot loop again.

Any ideas?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Sorry about that - I thought I read about "Denying" (never did this myself). Revert sounds more plausible.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Vanilla file from the 11/22 firmware (1.0.1): http://www.mediafire.com/?u27tx9l49nbdv7x
[G Tablet General] jimi369:
tweetdeck functions fine on mine with the new android.policy.jar. admittedly I updated just the jar files and the framework files from the updates, not the entire update. maybe the issue lies in whatever else is in the update files. my 2¢.
[G Tablet General] jacindc:
Hmmm, you may be right. I just replaced the file (thanks, Robeet!) and both Tweetdeck and Weatherbug Elite are FCing every time I try to use them. (Though they're clearly running--I get Tweetdeck notifications, I just can't get to where I can view anything.And WeatherBug's notification stuff is running too.)

Sigh. Guess I have to back up a bit.
[G Tablet General] jasco13:
Does storm have a wireless tether its hot spot application? That is how I am tethering.
[G Tablet General] techtech:
Just got my VS Gtablet today（not rooted）. I have problem tethering through wifi from my touch pro 2(sprint CDMA) by using CM internet sharing. i patch wpa_adhoc-signed in to system/bin but still it will not see the network on my gtablet. anyone have the same issue? please help without internet Gtablet means nothing.......thanks.
[G Tablet General] thedudevt:
Can you see the Tether for Blackberry from another computer like your laptop? if so, it may be an ad-hoc connection, which the gTab won't list. Read this thread back a few pages to see how to get your gTab to show ad-hoc APs.

TheDude
[G Tablet General] DeathCry:
Without reading through the rest of the thread I just wanted to comment...tonight I too found the reverted market after it was working fine last night after upgrading to 4.0.

But I did want to say that I had the exact same thing happen to me about a week ago, with version 3.0. or. 3.1, so I personally don't think its related to 4.0.

By 'reverted market' I mean I get the Accept screen and about three apps in the market.

Further info... I have not wiped data between upgrades. Seemed to be fine. ... for awhile.
[G Tablet General] bkbrod:
Again I have 4.0 running perfectly. No problem whatsoever. Thank you all so much.
[G Tablet General] geeter:
I am on 4.0 which I picked up from your post before it went "live" and I have had no problems yet. Standard market fix worked fine. It seems pretty stable to me.
[G Tablet General] jerdog:
Is there anyway to identify build dates for the GTabs? Hardware versions?
[G Tablet General] bobtran:
I read an article from the developer of launcherpro that the time out was a leftover from the developement phase to force upgrades during the beta phases and this has now been removed for good....just upgrade to the latest version and it will not happen again.
[G Tablet General] FacelessMan:
Market Issues

I am relieved to hear that someone else had market issues on 3.x. I also had issues with the Market on 3.1.4. Out of the blue I was prompted to Accept the terms, and then I had a limited market. Attempts to apply any of the known fixes were met with a "Server Error" type of message instead of a force close. A restart returned me to the extremely limited Market. I also do not think the market fix is isolated to 4.0 and/or the dataloop mod, but it Is definitely more prevalent on 4.0. Something in one or both of those mods makes it much easier to break.

I have also noticed a lot of people saying 4.0 is working fine. I did a clean install of 4.0, and it also worked fine for a couple of days. Then the Market issue returned. The only way I could get around it was to repartition the SD card, and restore a backup. Data wipes and cache clears would not fix the issue. Since doing this things are working well again, but I think it is only a matter of time before the Market gets broken again.

But all is working well today, so I will enjoy it while it lasts.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
Roeby,

CES creates a long gap as far as folks that bless publishing of FW. Probably looking at lag due to CES.

Be nice if there was a way to get a performance boost but not lose 512mb of app space :)
[G Tablet General] copperdawgnc:
Ok now I feel stupid never saw the "TnT Lite v3.1.0" when I checked before:o
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I completely agree - a few people were annoyed that I pulled out ES File Manager, but that's exactly why I did it. Keep the system apps at a minimum and let the user decide what they want to add.

i was never entirely convinced that the Market issues were specific to TNTL 4.00. But, I wasn't too happy with data2loop overall, so that's why it was pulled.

I'm still waiting on TnT to release a new update, and then I can build off that for TNTL 4.1.0. I'm going to give it until the end of today or tomorrow and, if I don't see anything from them, I'll make 4.1.0 as basically 4.0.0 minus the data2loop stuff.
[G Tablet General] ItsDon:
I was on Clean3.0 before coming to this rom and Clean has the very best File Manager I have used. Is there any way to get that file manager on this rom? Not sure what procedure would be for me to pull it out of that rom and install it in this one or if it is even possible.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8564/device2k.png