yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
another question: is there a reason why i should use sdcard2 to store my nandroid backups? i stored it on regular sdcard and it was fine. although i didn't do a data wipe. if i do a data wipe, will the internal sdcard get wiped along with the internal tablet storage?
[G Tablet General] maneeacc:
can I install tnt lite 2.2 this from the external sd card?

I accidentally partitioned the internal sd card while folloging the reboot loop fix?

any help would be appreciated.

thanks
[G Tablet General] mrackley:
Mortplayer is a good music player that lets you specify sdcard2 as default music location
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Yes, read the instructions on standard recovery (if you have that). You can alter the "command" file to point to /sdcard2 (microSD).

If you have clockworkmod, I'm not sure if you can install off anything else except /sdcard.

cm .08 uses /sdcard for the backups, and .12 uses /sdcard2 (I use .08). You need to leave them in the default locations or else cm won't see them, although you can change the folder names from something other than the date.

If you do a data wipe, /data is erased but NOT /sdcard. If you do a "Partition SD Card" in cm, that will wipe /data and /sdcard.
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
ok i just checked /data and the folder is empty. so if i wiped data right now, everything in my /sdcard folder is safe?

just to be sure, the "Tablet system storage" which is 1.84GB will get wiped, but the "Tablet data storage" which is 13.09GB will NOT get wiped?

i'm pretty sure i'm using cwm 08. how do i check that btw?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
You'll see .08 in the version number, in cm. It's 11- bekit .08 or something similar.

I have wiped data more times than I can count, and it's never wiped /sdcard (which is the 13GB partition, correct - the one you can mount to your PC). The only time that 13GB partition has gotten wiped is with a SD partition command in cm.
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
ok cool. gonna do a full wipe right now and flash the 2.3.0 update.

i was just confused with the whole sdcard thing because you said in the first post, as a prereq, to have a microsd card ready to use. but the tablet already comes with an internal sdcard built in. wasn't sure if you meant that i needed an external sdcard or not. that threw me off.

so what is the point of the sdcard 2 then? its pretty much useless unless you use apps that can read /sdcard2.
[G Tablet General] manikin13:
2.3.0 Installation aborted (Status 7)

Error:

assert failed: package_extract_file("system.img", "/tmp/system. E:Error in /sdcard/update.zip

(status 7)

using CW 0.8, and copied update.zip only to the root of /sdcard current version 2.2.1 TNT Lite /w flash, and market fix.

Anyone else get this error?
[G Tablet General] maneeacc:
thanks a lot!... i think i am seeing whats going on.

is there anyway i can get rid of clockwork so I can do the standard recovery. I did see the direction for that, just wanted to know if i can do it.

thanks again
[G Tablet General] anlog:
A couple of things...

1.) I picked up a second tab tonight (on sale at Sears for $349). The sales rep said the return rate was around 50%. I asked why none have been showing up at the Sears Outlet and he said this week they started sending them back to Viewsonic to refurbish and flash with the latest software. He said they wouldn't be going back to the Outlet any time soon. I asked if he was talking about today's update or one slated for later this month, but he didn't know.

2.) I updated the stock firmware to today's release and it is definitely usable. In fact, IMHO it is a huge leap over the initial release. I can see the appeal of their "walled garden" approach for mom's and grandma's and such. Played with it for 5 mins and wasn't so hate-filled about it this time.

3.) On my new tab the first thing I did was install CW .08. Then I wiped everything that could be wiped (on the tablet, that is). Then I repartitioned the SD card. Once you blow the SD card away you can go to mount options and mount USB, which will let you copy the update.zip to the device. Then you unmount and flash. You can do everything without leaving CW.

Hope this info helps...
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I did not get the error and I actually used cm .08 myself, for testing. I'm guessing that your sd partition could be corrupt. It's possible because I've had this issue myself which required a sd card re-partition. Just a guess.

True, but a lot of apps do see it. Example is ACV, for reading comics. I could fill up my microSD with just that alone. :) I also prefer to put videos on /sdcard2 and then just run them from a file manager.

There are options like flash_image (which I've never done) or nvflash. But, I can tell you that the latest vanilla stock update will actually wipe recovery, as that's what happened to me today. I ran it in cm, rebooted, and cm was replaced with standard recovery.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
Is it just me, or is v2.3.0 running A LOT slower than v2.2.1?

It takes about a second for each screen tap to register. I ran Quadrant and got almost a 2500, so I'm not sure what's up???

I've bounced the tab a few times now and the same result...
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
nope not just you. i noticed it was running slower pretty much right off the bat. thought i just had to give it a while for it to settle but i definitely did not notice any slowdown on 2.2. tapping to open an app takes a second or more to respond.

not sure what's going on. also, noticed a few market downloads just being stuck on downloading. doesn't download, just stuck on downloading.

also multitouch has gotten very stuttery. tested this with multitouch visualizer 2 from the market. putting two fingers on the screen and moving around caused a lot of stuttering. this did not happen on 2.2.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
I went back to v2.2.0 w/ manual GMail, YouTube, and Settings Catcher updates.

Sorry, but v2.3.0 has major problems. Way too slow...
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
I agree. TnT Lite 2.3 is much slower 2.2.1 (even though my Quadrant Standard score was higher --> 2497, strange). I'll hang on to 2.3 for a couple of more hours before I back it out in hopes that someone will figure out what's going on with the slow performance in the meantime.
[G Tablet General] thx69:
Just wondering. I had no issues. First time I had trouble with any updates was because I was using CWM 11 vs CWM 0.8. Could it be the same in your case?
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
I used CWM .8

I'll try to reflash it again to see if it helps.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Really? If this is the general consensus I will make a note in the OP and possibly pull it, altogether. It seemed the same performance to me, but tbh I didn't use it for very long.

The TnT devs touched the framework. I was already disappointed in this stock release, but if they've actually made things worse I will really be annoyed. What a disappointment.
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
I successfully reflashed TnT Lite 2.3. The performance is much better this time around.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Could it be that a user data wipe is needed?

Just wondering if the ones experiencing slowness did not wipe data and / or cache. Again, the TnT folks did touch the framework files.

I was disappointed that things didn't seem any better, but I certainly don't want things to be worse. :O
[G Tablet General] GenBlood:
I've updated to 2.3.0 and it does respond slower when selecting icons

on the screen and switching between tasks.

Also, you guys are doing great work on the roms .. Looking forward to

future releases ...

Time to make some donuts .... :D
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I'm pulling it (will leave it in the archives, however)

Too many people with the slowness issue. I'm guessing they fudged with the framework and it's causing us problems.

I've said this before, but I am really disappointed with this last firmware. Well, at least the stock users are getting some use out of it.
[G Tablet General] brian_h_kim:
having played with 2.3.0 last night and this morning (upgraded from 2.2.1), my tablet seems zippier - responds quicker to touches, more responsive page changes/swipes, and renders screen images much faster...
[G Tablet General] vo2ka:
Malata zpad T2

Yes it's 1gb version and when i flash with this rom i expect also there is a RAM limited but it's much better than Malata ROM Lol ! Smooth and market access...

There is a problem with the game 3D like Backbreaker Homerrunbattle3D NFS..

Is it wrong driver for tegra chips ? Before with the Malata Rom that's work good.

Ok to send you a dev unit but i'm a very noob in that !

Can you tell me how i can find for you ?

Thank you !
[G Tablet General] obiwan22:
how do we make this rom support usb mouse/keyboard?
[G Tablet General] GideonX:
Add me to the list, slowdown with 2.3.0. Had to go back to 2.2.1.

It was mostly touch not registering and lag while scrolling.
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
I wiped the data (Factory Reset) both times. Although, the sequence I used was slightly different the 2nd time.

First Time:

Wipe Data / Factory Reset

Wipe Cache

Wipe Dalvik

Install Update.zip

Reboot

Second Time:

Wipe Cache

Wipe Data / Factory Reset

Wipe Dalvik

Reboot (again hold down Power Button and + to load CWM)

Install Update.zip

Reboot

I recommend for those of you who still have a copy of TnT Lite 2.3, to redo the flash a second time. My gtab is now much more response (and stable). No FCs yet after a couple of hours.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
It was a joke! :) My point though is that it will be hard for me to troubleshoot Malata v2 issues, given that the device is different.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I left the link in the archives, in my first post. If a few of you try the same and report it to be stable, I can put it back with instructions.

I did limited testing and found it to be the same as 2.2.1. Didn't seem any better or worse. But I did do a full data wipe.
[G Tablet General] vo2ka:
arf ok LOL ! For the 512 RAM limited, it's not possible to change for 1Gb limit ?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
Any command line kernel changes I've attempted (so far) have failed - I can't get my device to boot up afterwards.

I know that there's another boot.img floating out there with a 1GB RAM syntax, but I believe the Malata v2 partition structure is also different. I think it's going to take some work to translate what we're doing here to that device.

I'll be 100% honest with you -- I'm working on two different builds (TnT Lite and VEGAn) with only one device and limited time on my hands. As much as I'd like to look into this issue, I just don't have the time or resources. This information is good to know and I appreciate the KT, but unfortunately there's not much I can do with it. Apologies for that.
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
i guess i will do a reflash and see how that goes. rebooting before flashing the update.zip seems unnecessary but i will try that. will report back..
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
something i noticed: wifi keeps turning off when i turn the screen off, even though i have it set to Never turn off.

is this an issue with anyone else? i don't get that endless reconnecting loop that some people get though. when i turn the tablet back on after 5 minutes or so, i can see that its disconnected, but it will reconnect in a few seconds. just wish it would stay connected for good.
[G Tablet General] vo2ka:
Ok don't worries about that, my Tab works very good for the moment.

I will continu my search. Thank you !
[G Tablet General] FateZero:
Hey roebeet I sent you a PM with an Idea about the 2nd SD card, let me know if you think its worth looking into.
[G Tablet General] rushless:
If you would be less stubborn and post a donate link (within the confines of XDA rules of course) you would probably have two now ;)
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
:) I was waiting for someone to make that comment. Yeah, I'm very stubborn on some things. Just doesn't feel right.

No worries - the ultimate goal here is to have one main mod that we are all working on, which is likely to be the VEGAn one (update coming today on that, btw).
[G Tablet General] The Ringmaster:
I just flashed 2.3 last night and now I see it was pulled. Aw man, I guess I'll keep it until a newer firmware is released.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
A few users are reporting that it works fine and is stable, others have reported slowness. If you are the former, then no worries. It's still in the first post, I just archived it at the bottom.

Once I had more than one or two people reporting slowness, it became a pattern so I pulled it.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
I had even repartitioned the Sd card before flashing. I never got a single FC or other error. V2.3 was just too slow.

I'll wait for the next version...
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I'm still in a holding pattern on this new firmware from TnT

2.3.0 seems to be a a bust, so I'd have to go back to the drawing board to figure out why. Maybe it's just one library file, or maybe it's more serious. And there's this new market apk that just came out.

We might have more fixes coming for the VEGAn build, which is what I'm primarily using since beta 2 fixed my freezing issues.

I have to admit, dealing with two separate builds is going to be taxing, especially at the rate the VEGAn build is developing. I'm thinking that I might not be able to delve into TnT Lite again until early next week, at the earliest.

I would like 2.3.1+ to be more stable and the performance issues fixed. But this might take some time. Just a heads up and apologies that my head isn't 100% into TnT Lite like it was a week ago.
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
ok i just reflashed 2.3 again (as suggested by Butch1326) and its even worse. typing is horrendously laggy now. doesn't even register all my presses. multitouch is also worse. no idea whats going with this one but going back to 2.2 right now...

btw i wiped everything before flashing, data, cache, dalvik. twice. rebooted, then installed the update.zip.
[G Tablet General] brian_h_kim:
i would suggest wiping the screen with a microfiber cloth...the screen does not seem to have a hydrophobic layer/coating so whenever my tablet becomes really greasy/oily, a simple wipe makes it work just like new...
[G Tablet General] shibbybypass:
Same here. I will notice that after a good cleaning with a microfiber it is much more reliable on presses.
[G Tablet General] gotwillk:
i agree with this. but i'm pretty sure that's not the issue here in the case with 2.3 being laggy when typing up a word on the keyboard.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
At this point, I could stay on 2.2 until we have a Gingerbread ROM. It's rock solid, fast, and does everything I need it to do.

I think you should focus on Vegan for now until the "big" Viewsonic update comes out, although I have a feeling it's gonna be the same kernel build and a major disappointment.
[G Tablet General] kozmo2k4:
2.3 is no go here

Well, flashed 2.3 at 9AM, lite usage in the afternoon (busy running around shopping... fun? yeah, right?). :mad:

The tablet is getting noticeably slower. Now even my Wi-Fi is disconnecting randomly, typing is laggy, opening apps is slow. :(

Going back to 2.2.1.

The good news is, because of Sears's price drop to $349, got a price match at Office Depot for my original purchase on Tuesday (just showed the manager a picture of the display taken with my Android phone); and ended up buying another one for the wife (with the price match!). :p

So now I have more flashing to do :D ... since there is not much on the Tube anyway... (sorry for all the smileys... it's cold and foggy here in Florida).

Cheers for roebeet, again!
[G Tablet General] Talk2Rider:
2.3.0 seems okay to me. I flashed 2.3.0 about 9pm last night. First attempt was without wiping user data...it was slow, so I went back into clockworkmod and wiped user data and tried again. It was much better after clearing the user data. I used it a few hours today and have not had any issues that were not in 2.2.1.

EDIT: Loaded 2.2.1 backup and compared it to 2.3.0. I will concede that 2.2.1 runs better. It seems like 2.3.0 is getting bogged down by GAPPs or something. It is especially noticeable right after boot up...something is dragging 2.3.0 down for a few minutes. 2.2.1 does not suffer from this.

My main beef has been Flash hiccuping when I am on cbs.com watching Letterman. I don't usually get the dreaded "!" message, it just doesn't play right. The video will stop for a second or two while audio keeps playing. Sometimes even the audio will break up.

EDIT: Ran speedtest.net on the Gtab. My wireless is rating at 49ms ping and about 1.4Mbit download speed (on a 1.5Mb DSL) which should be plenty of bandwidth to play flash from a website like cbs.com. I hope an improved flash update will make it work better for me.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
I did the same thing. Now I one to tinker with and another nice stable one on TnT Lite v2.2 for the wifey and I to fight over.
[G Tablet General] anlog:
Odd... I flashed v2.3 three times, each with different combinations of wiping cache, repartitioning SD card, etc. It is dog slow on both of my tabs. As in, 1-2 seconds for each key press to register. Night and day difference (in a bad way) compared to v2.2...
[G Tablet General] kozmo2k4:
We are in the same boat, @anlog! Did you have to suffer most of the afternoon in the mall, too?

... and "tinker" we shall! :D
[G Tablet General] anlog:
Not yet... Tomorrow is "family day". Wish me luck...
[G Tablet General] kozmo2k4:
@Talk2Rider: you just wiped user data and flashed 2.3 over?
[G Tablet General] Talk2Rider:
After clearing my cache and flashing 2.3.0, it did not take me long to figure out that it was running slower. I went back into CM and wiped the cache AND the user data and then just rebooted. I'm pretty sure I did not flash 2.3.0 a second time.
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
Playing around with TnT Lite 2.3 all day I noticed that video on CNN and ESPN3 was more choppy than what it was on version 2.2.1, as well as surfing on the web (including opening & closing the browser). I remembered reading Roebeet's comment (above) about the latest Viewsonic update including only a subset of the Nvidia Tegra performance pack. It occurred to me this evening to install the performance pack as a post update on top of TnT Lite 2.3, and WOW!!! Back to speedy, smooth access to videos and the web.

Roebeet, hopefully this information helps narrow down the performance issue with TnT Lite 2.3.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
This is a big help and a big THANK YOU. This is what I was going to target for 2.3.1 (or maybe 2.4.0, since a full update is still in order).

Basically, I had not used 100% of the performance pack, since pieces of it now existed in the new TnT firmware. I was thinking that layering the whole thing back might make a difference. :)
[G Tablet General] Butch1326:
Roebeet, any little bit to help. We're all thanking you...
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I'm not putting the new Vending.apk into 2.4.0

Too many screen glitches. Not sure why that it, but it's annoying.

If you want it, you can certain add it using a separate update.zip.
[G Tablet General] Talk2Rider:
I don't think it is that bad on mine, but after further tests and going back to my backup of 2.2.1 I concede that 2.2.1 runs better - I am back on 2.2.1 now.
[G Tablet General] Talk2Rider:
Off topic, but do you think they will be able to crack the Archos and get a permanent root? I have an Archos 43 and I refuse to update it to 2.2 due to all the problems they are having. I know Roebeet has a 32...

I might add that I bought the 43 at the same time I bought the G Tablet and the 43 seems overpriced - but I wanted an Android that was pocketable.
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
I have barely touched my 32 from a modding standpoint (and it's still 2.1) - it has limited uses for me - basically a pocket music player with extra functionality like Facebook / Aldiko etc. The screen is really too small to be very useful.

Archos is really bad with the lockdown, but I assume that someone will crack it sooner or later. I still want their media player ported over to the GTab, but needs a system.img of their Froyo buld to start digging.
[G Tablet General] FacelessMan:
Where is it $349? I just looked online and the price is the same. Do you have to go into a store.
[G Tablet General] samielowe:
Been on 2.3 for 2 days now... ROCK SOLID with no speed concerns.

Battery life good.. Haven't had 1 FC.. Wakes from sleep with no WiFi problems...

Got Touchdown to work and now this thing rocks...

I'm afraid to "poke the bear" from this point, because this build has been the most stable for me from this point. Like most I have been through probably 20+ ROM changes.

SL
[G Tablet General] zerozed99:
Sears had an in-store sale on the 10th and 11th. I don't think it was advertised in my local paper, but they had a print out at the cash register. Heck, they didn't even bother changing the price on the shelf--nobody would have known it was on sale (unless you read about it in these forums).

There's a thread about the sale somewhere else here....Sears has been very cool in refunding the $30 price difference for those of us who purchased the unit recently.

Sorry to take the thread off-topic...now back to your regularly scheduled programming.....
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
This is good and bad - I didn't see any issues with 2.3.0 either (with limited testing). I am putting more time into the 2.4.0 prototype, before releasing it. 2.4.0 is basically 2.3.0 with the full performance pack and not just the pieces that Viewsonic didn't touch in their firmware.

It seems that results on 2.3.0 are not consistent, which makes testing harder.

2.4.0 might be the last update for a while. I just wanted something stable that had the new TnT firmware on it. Hopefully this will be it.

I can see us getting to an impasse soon. VEGAn is getting to RC status soon, and there's the possibility of Gingerbread ROM's soon if the Vega / Malata / zPad get them. If TnT doesn't keep up on this, it will be left in the dust.
[G Tablet General] JoeMofknDot:
I have been using 2.3 it seems to work ok the tablet just need a little time to settle down I had a weird boot loop happen while downloading a file and my camera doesn't work but I don't use the camera for anything so it isn't a big deal my quadrant scores dropped and so did the speed.net. performance wise I have noticed streamed videos are choppy . I haven't had any touchscreen issues like others with all that bring said I'm probably going to go back to 2.2.0 just for smooth video streams

[QUOTE=roebeet;9763106]This is good and bad - I didn't see any issues with 2.3.0 either (with limited testing). I am putting more time into the 2.4.0 prototype, before releasing it. 2.4.0 is basically 2.3.0 with the full performance pack and not just the pieces that Viewsonic didn't touch in their firmware.

It seems that results on 2.3.0 are not consistent, which makes testing harder.

2.4.0 might be the last update for a while. I just wanted something stable that had the new TnT firmware on it. Hopefully this will be it.

I can see us getting to an impasse soon. VEGAn is getting to RC status soon, and there's the possibility of Gingerbread ROM's soon if the Vega / Malata / zPad get them. If TnT doesn't keep up on this, it will be left in the dust.[/QUOTE]
[G Tablet General] obiwan22:
when you flash these new TNT updates to your tab does everything gets deleted like your games/apps that were put on before?
[G Tablet General] roebeet:
All the user data is retained. There's actually no way that I know of to wipe the user data with a firmware update (even with VS stock updates).
[G Tablet General] mrackley:
Another Update

Hey Roebeet... another update on my end.

That problem with the right side of the screen losing sensitivity came back. However if I boot up to CWM and wipe user data it starts working fine again... for a while... then I have to wipe user data again for it to start working properly. I'm on 2.2 by the way...

Also, what's this VEGAn you are talking about? Is it better than TnT Lite? How can I help test?

As always, thank you...