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[General Topics] fshami:
Hi guys,

I need to buy a PDA. I have 3 devices in my budget:

X10

HD2

Desire

Which one to go for? I am more leaned towards HD2 with a hope that it runs Android with all functions (including Camera / Good battery life + no issues with Mic for Incoming / Outgoing Calls) & it will also support WinMo7.

Please share your opinions esp. for HD2 vs Desire
[General Topics] asb123:
sounds to me like you have already made up your mind
[General Topics] orb3000:
hTC Leo: You can have both Android and WM, and perhaps WP7;)
[General Topics] fshami:
hm..

But how is your experience with LEO running Android? battery will survive for one day? or less?

Any problems with Calls?
[General Topics] orb3000:
My experience is great

all works almost same as in Android native devices , battery lasts less than in WM but can make it a day.

Not any prob with calls really.
[General Topics] fshami:
@orb:

Are you using any WinMo ROM on your HD2 or is the default one?

i was going through a Thread where almost majority of the people were not happy with HD2.. may be because of the Stock ROM?
[General Topics] orb3000:
Of course I´m not using stock!

I flashed to a cooked ROM since day 1, have a read on Leo section so you´ll find out what members think of this super device!
[General Topics] Diamond_dawg:
Desire, i think thats why better than HD-2, unless your the guy who wants to switch to OS's everyday
[General Topics] xaccers:
I use the latest stock ROM for my HD2 on O2, never had a problem with it.

Also install SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 as I find it a better interface.

What do you actually want to use your phone to do though?

Most people from what I've read run android on their HD2 because it's cheaper than getting a desire HD, they don't really flip between the two.

What sort of user will you be?
[General Topics] fshami:
Yup want to use it for Android with a hope that WinMo7 will run on it one day :)
[General Topics] xaccers:
Ok in that case there's no hope for you :P

Your option is the HD2 as I doubt WP7 will be ported to an android phone.

Have you played with WP7 yet?

I seriously recommend trying it out in a shop if your choice is android and WP7, because if you discover WP7 is not for you, it's better to find out sooner and then just buy an android phone.
[Wildfire General] GuestK00293:
I am using cm 6.1 nightly and would like to know how to tune my mobile for long battery life. Wish setcpu could look into my usage and suggest presets for long battery life or performance.
[Wildfire General] kevin2516:
my main is: Min: 245, Max: 710

Screen off: Min: 245, Max: 352

even without the screen off profiles or anything i still get 1-2 days + depending on my usage, and since i like to play with my phone and abuse the wifi/3g it lasts like a day anyway.
[Wildfire General] fusk:
With screen on, max 633, min 480. create a profile so when screen is off, max 352 & min 160.

Mine is atm at 10% battery and it's been on for 51h & 30m and in that time it's been awake for 9h & 38m.

When i'm home, wifi is always on.

Gps is only on when needed, and so is bluetooth.
[Wildfire General] GuestK00293:
A suggestion for setcpu, it can collect the settings from users and provide the average as an option. This will really help new users. Integration with cm parts will be kickass.
[Wildfire General] Vecaly:
kevin2516 and fusk.

i like yours max and min settings, but what type of scalling u guys use?

ondemand

userspace

performance

interactive (how does it work? couldnt find it on setcpu site)

thanks!
[Wildfire General] nemuro:
"couldnt find it on setcpu site"

Oh really? http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/#7
[Wildfire General] Vecaly:
yeah i saw it before, but i didnt find interactive.

interactive = conservative?
[Wildfire General] nemuro:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/4434-froyo-kernels-by-slayher/

Look for the small text in the signature of the OP.
[Wildfire General] Vecaly:
thanks.

kept "ondemand".
[Wildfire General] GuestK00293:
By having different profiles, we end up changing the CPU frequency limits frequently. Could this harm the CPU? This question was asked elsewhere but am not able to track it (iirc, it was not answered)
[Wildfire General] quemmy:
I think it will harm CPU. i have been using few profiles for a week. Yesterday it froze for 6 times. . So yeah....
[Wildfire General] fusk:
I use ondemand and i've set threshold at 90%

works for me.
[Wildfire General] fusk:
No it does not harm the cpu.

think of other cpu's like intel or amd, they also can be throttled either through the hardware or software, to lower power consumption when not used, and visa versa.
[Wildfire General] kennyhkw:
I just use the main profile, the phone tends to freeze when switching profiles so i removed all the ones i had.

Running 160-672mhz. Running fine and doesn't freeze anymore.
[Wildfire General] argeoff:
When i use a profile for screen off, it sometimes takes a second or two to switch cpu speeds. It's kind of annoying as if i don't wait for it to change to the main speed, it may freeze.

Anyone else experiencing this ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Polarisman:
I have a script that works with Gscript that needs root and I would like to run it with SL4A if possible so that I can launch with tasker. Can this be done?

This is the script :

#Android Market

busybox rm -R /data/data/com.android.vending/cache

#Browser

busybox rm -R /data/data/com.android.browser/cache/webviewCache

#GMail

busybox rm -R /data/data/com.google.android.gm/cache/webviewCache

#Google Maps

busybox rm -R /data/data/com.google.android.apps.maps/cache/webviewCache

#Google Maps StreetView

busybox rm -R /data/data/com.google.android.street/cache

#Youtube

busybox rm -R /data/data/com.google.android.youtube/cache

#Reboot using Rom Manager binary

/data/data/com.koushikdutta.rommanager/files/reboot
[HD2 General] TrevorMcCauley:
So awhile back I formatted my sd card by mistake thinking it would restore the files back to factory settings, but little did i know it would delete everything. I went to the local T-Mobile store and they put the files back on for me, simple as that. Once i got home immediately i backed up the SD card files on my computer.

Yesterday my computer went kaput and im in need of those files, because ive been tweaking around and stuff which lead to my SD card just being over cluttered with files. Now i just want to put everything back to normal and start off again with a clean slate. So I deleted everything off my SD card and went to the T-Mobile store thinking they could just simply put the files back on. They told me last time the used a returned HD2 phone and took that SD card, copied the files, and put them on my SC card. But they didnt have any HD2's in stock, so they asked for my number and the next time they get an HD2 they would call me and transfer the files. The lady told me she doesnt think it would be anytime soon...So they called a different T-Mobile store to see if they had any HD2's but they didnt.

So now im stuck waiting for a call that could be days, weeks, or months till it comes. I've looked all over xda for the files and couldnt find them, ive tried google, ptp sites, and still no luck. So im wondering if anyone would be nice enough to host them on a site for me. Im not sure if thats allowed but im in desperate need. Lol send my a PM if you can help. Please and thank you!!
[HD2 General] TrevorMcCauley:
These are the files I need.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Well, some of the programs and demos at least can be found over in the Leo section of the forums, but things like the Transformers movies and such cannot and should not be posted here at XDA as they are considered warez, as are the full version of the programs that are included with the stock HD2. Your best bet is to wait until they get another HD2, or see if a friend has got one that you can borrow or something along those lines. What off of the card from the stock stuff do you need so desperately might I ask?
[HD2 General] TrevorMcCauley:
I dont need anything "desperately" I would just like the have the files for backup and I want to have them back on my sd card where they belong. Its not so easy to find them cause everyone one is so up tight about "warez". I mean i paid for the phone so if someone were to send them to me i wouldnt consider that "warez". No one i know owns an hd2 and T-Mobile said themselves it could be days, weeks, or months and my best bet would to look online for the files. Which proved itself to not be an easy task. :confused:
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Well, we here at XDA are so "uptight" about warez because we wan't to stay on the good side of the law. We try to keep warez out of XDA at all costs. Like I said, if you want the demos of the games and such that where included on the SD card, or most of the programs then check out the Leo section of the forums. But if you are looking for the movies, or anything that isn't already freely available, then please take your search elsewhere. Distrubuting or soliciting warez at XDA is strictly prohibited by the rules. Not trying to be a hardass, just trying to do my job.
[HD2 General] TrevorMcCauley:
Okay well im not trying to distribute or solicite anything. Just looking for a fellow hd2 owner to be kind and send me the files that I rightfully purchased. But considering I cant find anyone like that i guess I will have to search else where.
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
I think there was a sticky or a thread somewhere here that had all the game demos and apps. The transformer movies will probably be harder to find... I'd share mine, but I erased all that stuff the first day I got my phone. A waste of valuable space on my memory card, IMO. But if I come across a link for them I will let you know.

Another thing you can do is call HTC and tell them that your SD card is having problems, and they will send you a new card (actually better brand) if you send your old one back. People say the new cards they send are a lot faster and have less problems. The new card should have all the original stuff on it.
[HD2 General] hedgy2136:
Since you posted in the TMOUS forum -

I assume you have a TMOUS HD2. In the forum you posted in, the 4th sticky from the top is titled Links to Cabs, ROMS, how to's, SNES Emulator, Clocks, Themes, & WinMo Newbie Guide. Within that post under

Good Stuff to look at for Starters

, you would have found the following link which contains the cabs for the installed apps and demos: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=653563

Note that the Transformers launcher app is there, not the movies themselves.
[HD2 General] tooter1:
I have a backup of those files from my card.
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
DO NOT post a direct link to them here on XDA. Doing so is grounds for being banned.
[HD2 General] TrevorMcCauley:
So quick to the ban hammer there eh? Im sure he knows not to post a link. But thankfully there are some nice hd2 owners on this site.
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Indeed. I am a nice person, but posted illegal content is strictly against the rules here at XDA, and I as a moderator will uphold those rules to the fullest extent possible.
[HD2 General] tooter1:
I may be new but, I do know not to do that.
[HD2 General] desperate123:
stupid me accidently i format my sd card on htc hd2, can you send me the backup sd card my email : madman0891@gmail.com, thnak you so much
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GeezyAF:
http://www.androidmobilesupport.com...mes-f135/minimal-elegance-released-t1037.html

http://www.androidmobilesupport.com...hemes-f135/steel-elegance-released-t1497.html

The two links above go to two themes that I'd like to use. They were meant for the Samsung Moment. I know that the Hero and Moment have the same screen resolution, but would anything else factor in into using these on the Hero?

If so, would anyone be able to port both/either or?

Thanks in advanced.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edisonalvarez:
.The second theme was created for our hero running CM by gommorah (don't know if I spelled it right). But is no longer being maintained. If you look for Asimmons theme injector you can you update it merge it into your rom and flash it from recovery. I actually ran it and it works well.

You can try and see what it looks like :D

What rom are you running?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GeezyAF:
What theme did you use the theme injector with?

CM 6.1 #126.

I also am not making sense of the part I bolded.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edisonalvarez:
You can run asimmons theme injector with any theme and any rom but it only ports what matches from the theme

Gommorah moved on to the evo so he's not. Updating the theme :(
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] newone757:
ALL credits to kris for a great theme and PSD to work with.- http://www.macthemes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=533104

Got more stuff to theme still this is just a preview/beta/incomplete theme for now.

Includes 2 Built In wallpapers and a lockscreen wall

for best results delete the folder located @ /data/system/customized_icons_1, wipe cache, and davlik, then flash. (Should NOT be a need for full wipe)

DOWNLOAD

EVO beta-http://bit.ly/beJuQe
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dgaf98:
very nice work sir.... good job!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] catdeerduck:
Wow amazing I need to update first and then I'll flash
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] dadoc04:
very nice!!!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sicilykill:
I love the theme . Nice job. I haven't been able to install it. When I do the boot animation loops over and over. Is anyone else seeing this issue?

I thought this was an issue if some of the APK are signed in windows vista or windows 7 using the autosign method. Did you happen to do that?

Looking forward to using your theme. Thanx for all the hard work.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] toya10:
Love the look too but Im looping as well. Amd im not using Vista or 7.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Helton566:
Why cant someone make a theme like this for Evo!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] newone757:
The apks were not signed since they are system apks. Been the same on all my other themes and nobody has reported this. Maybe because I used the autosigner on 7 for the update zip. But why would that cause u bootloops and not me?

What recovery are you flashing from? Clockwork causes problems

EDIT:: Progress on theme delayed, Im moving this week
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sicilykill:
I have used the autosigner in 7 myself for my own themes with no problems so that's probably not it.

However, I am running Clockwork, so i guess that might be the reason. If i am the only one seeing this then I ll dig deeper and post back once I find out. There must be something specific with my environment.

Thanx for the reply. Good luck with your move
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] newone757:
yea from what i heard clockwork can get iffy when wiping stuff, tells you its wiping cache and davlik but doesnt
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] HiddenKnight:
Clockwork works along to the advanced menu. I just wiped cache partition and flashed this zip, and it works!!!

doesnt wipe dalvik or battery stats properly. it needs to be updated.

I would use amon ra recovery, but is has a bigger problem with broken md5 sums
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] jruku:
Your theme is WON DER FUL, I like it very much... alas I've got a Desire and it's not consistent, what a shame...
[Vibrant General] DarkAgent:
So, those early Froyo adopters: Does the Froyo update for Vibrant fix the lag issues? I ask because I have the choice of the MT4G, which is incredibly lag-free, and if Froyo doesn't fix the lag issues, I may just jump ship.

Yes, I know there are many "lag fixes" out there; but lag fixes don't make the phone completely lag free like it should be.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
No version of android can fix this lag. It has nothing to do with android...
[Vibrant General] DarkAgent:
I never said it had to do with Android. I figured Samsung may have made optimizations/fixes in the Froyo update; I guess not.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
N8ter is a troll in the truest sense.

When did we get FroYo? The roms in the dev section don't count.
[Vibrant General] DarkAgent:
By early adopters I meant the people who flashed the leaked Froyo.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
The leak is laggy, it's not finished.

/thread
[Vibrant General] DarkAgent:
That isn't very encouraging now is it.
[Vibrant General] kaine13x7:
I can't believe people are still putting mt4g in the same sentence as any galaxy s phone.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Did you miss the point I tried to make?

It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.

It's LAGGY in the sense that the launcher is very choppy among other things compared to JI6 but performance is better when installing applications.

It's a LEAK and not an OFFICIAL update.
[Vibrant General] DarkAgent:
And they shouldn't why?
[Vibrant General] DarkAgent:
My bad -- a laggy leak is very encouraging :p.
[Vibrant General] vtmike:
I have been using Eugene's macnut r10 for a little while now without any problems or lag. It works very well.
[Vibrant General] Rodriguez92:
Wow I can't believe how much people are putting down this phone and the devs who work on it.

First of all I believe froyo does help and even erases the lag on the vibrant I'm running obsidian and its totally lag free with no lag fix in it.

I was also running the froyo build that eugene posted (stock froyo) and that 2 was lag free.

Even though we don't have official froyo yet we will and this phone is way better than a lot of other phone on the market right now and I believe the best t mobile phone..

N yes I've played around with the mt4g its cool but not for certain people. Its too heavy and bulky for me. Not as sleek and stylish as the vibrant.
[Vibrant General] clivo360:
Because the MT4G is a superior phone in almost every possible way.
[Vibrant General] jzero88:
Obsidian v2 and Onyx from TW are definitely lag free. Can honestly say feel better than stock with a lag fix. RFS or not, definitely no lag. Just flash a custom Rom and your set.
[Vibrant General] Sdobron:
There is lag and lots of it on the tw froyo roms. Bionix fusion 1.2 eclair is still the better choice for me.
[Vibrant General] mo0se:
onyx and obsidian V2.2 are lag free, after you remove the bloatware.

onyx and obsidian V3 are smoother than fusion 1.2.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Sure it is, if that's what you need to tell yourself. Truth says otherwise. The MT4G is an overhyped ugly little phone.
[Vibrant General] DarkAgent:
The problem with comparing phones is everyone wants to make their phone sound the best. Truth be told, both Vibrant and MT4G have their particular advantages -- one isn't simply better than the other in everything.
[Vibrant General] Rodriguez92:
So true.

These phones are for different people. You really can't compare the 2.
[Vibrant General] eortizr:
the Lag in the Vibrant has nothing to do with Android...
[Vibrant General] DarkAgent:
I disagree. They are both high-end Android devices -- you can compare the two. However, the comparison should lead one to the following assessment: With a better screen, better GPU, and more internal storage the Vibrant is a media centric device; with better battery life, FFC, and faster data speeds (potential), MT4G is more communication centric. Which one you want will depend on what you plan on using the phone for.
[Vibrant General] psxpaul:
The Cyanogen developer working on the i9000 has a thread over here: xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=803103

In that thread, he's shown some benchmarks and noted that the real cause of lag on the SGS is that Samsung has the partitions screwed up. The dalvik cache is written to the internal SD card, which is much slower than the nand. And judging from the froyo releases for the i9000, and all of the leaks for the Vibrant and Captivate, Samsung isn't going to change this in their next release. Our best hope is to just wait for Cyanogen (aery says we can expect a beta release next week).
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
The internal SD is NAND memory.
[Vibrant General] Rodriguez92:
Respectfully disagree with the battery I'm getting almost 24 hours my cousin who has the mytouch says it doesn't last her through the hours she works.

Besides that they are both great phones which I believe are aimed at different people.
[Vibrant General] psxpaul:
Are you sure about that? This post by the Cyanogen dev sort of implies its not:

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9155776#post9155776

From what I understand, /sdcard is mounted from the internal sd card, and everything else in / is mounted from nand.

Another source: androidspin.com/2010/08/09/guide-new-kernel-for-samsung-vibrant-improves-performance-reduces-lag/
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
No it isn't.
[Vibrant General] mo0se:
Or just use a team whiskey rom
[Vibrant General] psxpaul:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe most roms just put the dalvik cache on a ram disk. That eats up usable ram. Cyanogen will re-partition the nand chip and use that for the dalvik cache, without eating more ram.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
He can imply whatever he wants, the chip is right here.

http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/

The international Galaxy S comes in 8GB variants, and you're posting information that contradicts what you're saying...
[Vibrant General] ttabbal:
You are wrong. :)

Most phones have more of the fast flash being referred to as "nand". The internal sd is nand based, however it's significantly slower than the oneNand chip. That faster chip or one like it is where most phones put dalvik cache and user data.

Using rfs on top of the slower internal sd is one of the stupider design decisions I've seen in a long time. The faster onenand hides the worst of the problems, but the internal sd makes it really suck. That's why the lag fixes work so well. The first lag fix moved everything to dbdata which is on the faster nand. Even with rfs, it helped a ton.

The problem is, we lack space on that chip. If we had a gig or two of that, we wouldn't need voodoo and friends.
[Vibrant General] psxpaul:
Okay, so the internal sd is technically nand based, but this is just arguing semantics. When someone refers to the "nand", they're generally referring to the smaller faster internal storage that you're referencing.

Rfs is only part of the problem, as the dalvik cache is still being stored on the slower sdcard. Optimally, we would use the faster internal nand, on ext4. According to aery in the thread I posted earlier, this will be possible with cyanogen. In one of his posts, he mentions that touchwiz takes a considerable amount of storage space more than vanilla android. Since cyanogen doesn't have touchwiz, that frees up quite a bit of room on the nand for things like the dalvik cache.
[Vibrant General] jnutz:
+1

I am on Obsidian v3 and this thing is flawless. Huge speed difference between 2.2 and 2.1 and everything works perfectly. I wish they weren't taking so long to release it but I think this indicates it will be good when they do. I have gotten non-stop compliments from the friends I have upgraded to 2.2 and they all say their phone is way better now. None of them have reported any problem or complained about anything and some of them can be real picky sometimes.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Onyx R3.1 is pretty darn fast, probably equivalent to Fusion. It will be perfect once they get a stable OC z4mod kernel.
[Vibrant General] Wi2TheMax:
Are you serious?

I really don't know how anyone could even consider the MT4G over the Vibrant. Sure it has a FFC and all but hardly anybody I know uses that feature. My friend has an iPhone 4 and only admitted to using Facetime once. Plus if you want an FFC that badly, the Vibrant is more than capable as you may be well aware.

Sure the Vibrant has it's shortcomings but they can be easily resolved by reading and asking questions here and various other sites. The MT4G is just plain ugly and I hate the way T-Mobile patronizes it's users by having HTC create a special UI. It is the most ugliest UI I have ever seen on a phone. Who's effin idea was it to put to bubbles around the icons???

Can you even put stock on it? Has someone here already created a pure stock rom for it. I couldn't live with that dreadful interface. Ugh!
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Why are you copy pasting these replies eberywhere?