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[Venue Pro General] michael871410:
heres what i got

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23:06:48	Michael

Hello , I was wondering if there has been an update on the release of the venue pro?

23:07:26	Ricardo V

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the release of the New Venue Pro Phone. At this time this product is not yet released and is not yet currently available direct through Dell. Please utilize the following link to sign up for information and details via email once the Venue Pro becomes available.

23:07:40	Michael

there's info stating tomorrow on the web saying tomorrow

23:08:22	Michael

are these true or are people falsifying information

23:08:45	Michael

its frustrating because there has been so much mis information

23:08:56	Ricardo V

Dell hasn't released any official info of its release
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
placed an order earlier this morning and got an email earlier this afternoon canceling the order LOL
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
when you go on the fs link now it shows you the 8gb instead of the 16gb. Does this mean the 16gb version won't be available?
[Venue Pro General] MikeDupp:
Not sure if it will be available today, but it will eventually. I ordered the full price, no contract phone with one of the early links and it still hasn't been canceled. It has an item number and is in their system. Here's the order description from my status page:

Quantity	Item Number	Description	Unit Price

1	225-0433	Dell Venue Pro Smartphone, 16GB, UMTS 2100,1700,900, BLK	$499.99

1	421-4592	SW,WIN,PHN7,PX,LVL1,CH1,ALL MS SVCS

1	331-1145	Dell Venue Pro Smartphone TMO KIT,BLK,400 with SIM

1	927-3713	Advanced Exchange Limited Warranty Initial Year

1	927-3693	Dell Hardware Limited WarrantyInitial Year

1	991-1209	No Warranty beyond 1 year

1	468-9169	Lithium Ion Battery	$0.00

1	468-9170	Wall/USB Charger and Cable	$0.00

1	468-9171	Stereo Headset with Microphone	$0.00

1	468-9172	Product Safety and Warranty Brochure	$0.00

Sign up to receive an email when your order ships.

Sub-Total :	$499.99

Shipping :	$0.00

Tax :	$35.00

Order Total :	$534.99
[Venue Pro General] 937dytboi:
The Dell Venue pro is on the homepage of msn.com
[Venue Pro General] murdo119:
If you go back to the fs site, you'll see that there are two options now for venue pro, one is 8gb and the other one is 16gb, I tried ordering again (after first order few weeks ago being cancelled) and see what happens. Just in case, there is this coupon code code that'll give you 10 percent off. coupon code is FMQLSTFF34SVV5. My ship date is 12/09/10 but i picked the 2 business day shipping so estimated delivery is 12/14/10.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
Nice..Thanks for the coupon. Got it for $199+tax for upgrade.
[Venue Pro General] patrickk:
Odd, if I go through the Dell website and search for "Venue pro" that link still shows coming soon. I can click through the MSN link and order though. It also shows up on my company's EPP page.

Gonna pull the trigger for the 16gb. Question for you guys - I'm currently on an even more plus (no contract) plan. There doesn't look to be a way for me to change over to an even more plan on the Dell website and still get an activation credit. Tmo's website has a 1500 minute EM plan for $79/mo that Dell doesn't have. Is there any way to "activate" it after the fact and still receive the discount?
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
I just ordered one on dell's website :D
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
From my conversation with T-mobile, Dell has no control over the plan. You buy the phone from dell and call t-mobile to change it to whatever we want. In my case, i am currently on a $24 unlimited text and web plan. So when i upgrade, it doesn't give a option to retain the data plan. So t-mobile said, just place the order and call back when the phone is received to change it accordingly. They also noted the same on my account.

Bottom line, call TMO (call the retention/cancellation dept) and have your things clarified and noted and then order from Dell.

Note: DVP is not sold thru dell as a reseller for t-mobile. Hence you wont find this phone on the regular dell mobility page where you see the HD7,etc. If you ordered a HD7 from dell, then you can't change plans by calling tmobile.
[Venue Pro General] patrickk:
Thanks for the info. In the end, if I contact Tmo directly, will I still be able to get a discount for activation? My current EMP plan runs me $70/mo with 500 mins. Their 1500 min plan is $79/mo but I get a discount through my employer that would bring it down to about the same price, so contract doesn't really bother me.
[Venue Pro General] hvbelton:
Finally able to get an order submitted. Hopefully things will go well now that Dell has some additional time to flesh things out
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
the coupon can't be combined with other offers though. Like if you're upgrading like me :o
[Venue Pro General] Peew971:
Have we all agreed that these should work in the UK? I was just about to order an Omnia 7 but this is better. Don't want to wait for Expansys either.

It's definitely locked to T-Mobile in the US, has been confirmed again. Don't know if it would work outside of the US though...
[Venue Pro General] pNoyr3D:
I just ordered my Venue Pro 8GB Online with next day shipping & the guy said I will receive on or before the 14th of December.

Was gonna go for the 16GB but I don't even need that much space, I have an iPod for my music & videos I don't even do.

Can't wait!
[Venue Pro General] poi2005:
Me too wondering whether the phone is unlock when buy off-contract...

I am thinking to bring one into Australia

If is lock can it be unlock(legally)?? Thanks!!
[Venue Pro General] patrickk:
Just placed an order (off contract*) for the 16gb version. 10% off accessories coupon worked for me. With tax, came out to $477 after tax. Received an order confirmation and an estimated delivery date of 12/15. Out of curiosity, does Dell charge your credit card when you order or when they ship?

* For some reason Dell wasn't able to switch me to an on contract plan (I don't have a contract with tmo) and still give me the discount. Their CS guys were absolutely NO help whatsoever. The tmo guys couldn't give me a discount either, but at least they were nice and spoke decent English. The guy I spoke to actually said his daughter just went through the same thing when trying to purchase a DVP.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
Yes, they will waive off activation and if upgrading or adding a new line to a/c, you will be able to apply your employer pricing discount. But just to be safe, call them and sort things out and all is noted.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
I upgraded my existing line and i got the discount.
[Venue Pro General] raimeiken:
ok now it worked :o

I have to cancel my other order now :(
[Venue Pro General] Peew971:
Anone please? I found someone to get me one but I'm not sure it's region locked as well as sim locked :(.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
For those who are planning to get the Otterbox Dell Venue Pro Commuter Case, get it directly from Otterbox. Its only $27.98 (including Fedex shipping )+no tax. Use coupon code 'DiveShowOtter' to get that price with free shipping.

http://www.otterbox.com/Dell-Venue-Pro-Commuter-Series-Case/DEL4-VENPR-20-E4OTR_A,default,pd.html
[Venue Pro General] patrickk:
Thanks for the info. Does anyone know how much thickness one of these things adds to the phone? I've got a Tmo HD2 right now and I'm using the rubber thing that came with it. I hate it because it makes the phone pretty bulky. Also the rubber texture makes it a real PITA to slide into / take out of your pocket. The Otterbox people point that out as a plus for this case though.

If it adds too much bulk, I may just wait for one of those Invisishield things to come out for the DVP.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
Looks like the $50 off coupon is dead. Glad i did order early.
[Venue Pro General] pNoyr3D:
They stated before, even if it is bought off-contract it is still LOCKED on T-Mobile.
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
how did you come off a 16gb $477 after tax ? I just placed order on phone $529 including tax. do you know the phone sold by dell have t-mobile logo on it? I suppose the retail price ones should not. I called support, every time a indian guy pick up, he couldnt understand my quesion.
[Venue Pro General] murdo119:
Is it maybe because he used the 10% discount? maybe lower state tax?
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
10% discount? how?
[Venue Pro General] patrickk:
I used a 10% off coupon that was active earlier this morning (looks like it's no longer available). State tax here is 6%.

When I did a chat session with someone to see if they could give me an activation credit for an existing line (no contract), they couldn't understand/help me, but tried to get me to order online. After stringing me along for 30 minutes he said the coupon was invalid. Lies - worked on the website. Jerk was just wasting my time (probably trying to make a commission).
[Venue Pro General] fathamburger:
Big surprise, US only. Has an unlock code been discovered yet?
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
If you go on ebay you can find a 15% off home and accessories coupon. That's 75$ off. My total was $460.40.
[Venue Pro General] Peew971:
That is so stupid, I can't believe the crap you in the US have to deal with. If I buy a phone off contract here it will be unlocked.
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
coupon on ebay? how?
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
I heard that some people got it to work in att's network on edge. I also heard that it should work on moblicity in canada.
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
I just searched up "dell coupon" and there it was. Make sure not to get the outlet only one though. I think it was a home and asscessories coupon. The guy emailed me the code within an hour and shipped the physical one to me as well
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
dell coupon on ebay or google?
[Venue Pro General] fsrkewd:
how much do those coupon cost?

$1x?
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
I got mine for $2.99. And I searched it up on ebay.
[Venue Pro General] fsrkewd:
can you pm me the link of it?

i can only find the outlet one
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
can you pm me too? i never thought ebay sell dell coupons. smart idea. can you find some ebay or paypal check out coupons too? :D
[Venue Pro General] zaijian:
Has anyone been able to order the DVP w/ the activation discount? I've been trying all day (online and on the phone) and every time the system errors out. I've tried adding a new line to an existing family plan (under my name) and creating a new line (using my wife's info since she's not in T-Mobile's system), neither works.
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
Wow, I just checked eBay and the prices for the coupons skyrocketed. They used to be <$5 now people are selling them for $10+. Guess theres more demand for them now.

I bought the coupon a week ago because some other guy on these forums did it for the Streak and I figured I would buy one and save it for the Venue Pro.

Heres a guy selling it for $10 :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-Coupon-15-...=US_Coupons&hash=item35ae4cf7ea#ht_500wt_1156

This was the item I bought but it seems he sold out. He used to have over 10.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...pNcSrbs%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT
[Venue Pro General] fsrkewd:
thanks

i guess prices do rise during holiday season!!
[Venue Pro General] fathamburger:
I'm investigating these options for shipping out of the US. Anyone have any experience with any of these mail forwarding companies?

http://www.shipito.com/shop-pricing

http://www.usamail1.com/index.php?ref=209&gclid=CO-f88CdzKUCFUVqKgodpD7Ujw

http://myus2.myus.com/About/default.aspx
[Venue Pro General] Peew971:
Are you confident it will work outside the US though?
[Venue Pro General] benjaminries:
I don't know about him, but I'm confident that it will.

There is a chance that it will be SIM-locked to T-Mobile (like the Dell Streak is to AT&T) even if we pay full price for no contract. That's Dell's official line. However, there's a good chance Dell or T-Mobile will provide unlock codes over the phone and, if not, there's always the Rebel SIM card. On the other hand, people who got their Dell Venue Pro from

In Canada, people on the Rogers and Fido networks can use the DVP on 2G, with a slight chance of getting 3G on 2100 MHz from test towers in certain parts of Toronto and Vancouver. People using Wind Mobile, Mobilicity and Videotron networks can get full 3G on the DVP using the AWS band, identical to T-Mobile. In Europe, the 900 MHz / 2100 MHz bands will work for 3G.
[Venue Pro General] fathamburger:
Yup what he said, I'll be on Wind or if for whatever reason that ***** up, Mobilicity. Not sure about the UK.
[Venue Pro General] poi2005:
Well, definitely hope that either Dell or T-Mobile provide unlock code, I am keen on getting one out of US :)

A bit confuse here, ain't sim lock means that it wont work if other than T-Mobile's sim card is inserted??
[Venue Pro General] danbutter:
Yes.

Tmo will provide unlock code if you buy full off contract price. It seems that you need to email or call support after your purchase with receipt info in hand though.

YMMV.
[Venue Pro General] fathamburger:
A rep just emailed me to double check everything in detail, espec since I'm using a US forwarding address.

Should be ok
[Venue Pro General] sureloch:
Purchased dvp's for my wife and I using 15% off ebay coupon I bought for $10. Bought one 16gb and one 8gb unit, saved ~$142.00 + got the free 2-day shipping. Good deal :) .
[Venue Pro General] zellbz:
upgrade

Has anyone who upgraded to the HD7 then returned it have been successfully in upgraded to the Venue Pro?
[Venue Pro General] hmarcus:
If you don't mind my asking, where did you buy your coupon?

Sent from my Nexus One
[Venue Pro General] zaijian:
^!@#$!#%!~@#!!

FINALLY got my activation issues worked out so I could get the $350 discount. It was related to my corporate discount on my tmo acct, I had to temporarily remove it.

So my order is in, $150 for the 16gb VP, but est arrival date is 12/28. ARGH.
[Venue Pro General] Peew971:
At this price I would be happy to wait until February :D.
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
It seems as though those who ordered the phone on contract are going to have to deal with the T-Mobile logo :(. Glad I ordered it contract free :D.
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
I agree. That t-mobile logo is fluken hideous. It, seriously, is a deal breaker for me. Honestly.

Now, what other good phones now, a days work under t-mobile's 3G without the hideous t-mobile log?
[Venue Pro General] poi2005:
I have a quick chat to a Dell rep today, and she told me that even though is off-contract, the T-mobile logo still applies.

I think Dell rep don't know much about this phone, different people give different answers, sigh. We'll just have to wait and see when someone really gets their hands on it.

Just hope for the best!!
[Venue Pro General] Peew971:
That's probably true given that it's sim locked to T-mobile anyway... What a joke, pay $500 for a phone off contract and not getting it unlocked.
[Venue Pro General] althejandro:
Does anyone know when this will be available @ microsoft stores?
[Venue Pro General] gshocker:
When I talked to the MS store a few days ago they still had no word on when the original purchasers replacement units would be in the stores. I would an hoping to get a call about my replacement unit as soon as they arrive but so far no one over there know anything.
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
Do you have a t mobile logo

on your dell venue pro ?
[Venue Pro General] benjaminries:
I dunno though - isn't the SIM lock a bigger problem? I'm betting that the logo can be easily removed using a sugar cube - with little risk of scratching the Gorilla Glass underneath. These look like thin little bits of white paint - should be easy to scrape off.
[Venue Pro General] Pedmart:
What? How is that a joke? Phone is ~$150-200 with a 2 yr contract with tmobile, if you are already in contract and want a new phone or if you want to use their cheaper month to month than you must pay more for that phone, in this case $450-500. Why should it be unlocked? Or if it was unlocked, it should be even more.

The us carriers don't share phones and they don't use the same network. Almost every phone is unique to each carrier and almost by name you know who has that phone, because they advertise them for their network. It makes no sense to me that these phones will come unlocked to be use in any network.

Nokias are different because they have no contract with the companies here, or in Europe is different too, because carrier share the same network and the price is also much more expensive.
[Venue Pro General] dhafiz:
Same here - I spoke to the Oak Brook store manager (I work for MSFT in Chitown), and he mentioned that they have not been given any indication yet from Dell when they will be receiving new shipment. He said there was a LONG wait list for the phone, and that they had staff ready to call the people on the wait list as soon as they get some in stock... but he had no idea when that may be. I did some snooping up the chain at work, and it really seems that Dell has dropped the ball on the devices - as in, what was promised and what was delivered - and are scrambling to get 100% functional units out the door.

Finger's crossed the first shipments aren't riddled with issues...
[Venue Pro General] Peew971:
I see it as a joke precisely because I'm in Europe. If I pay that amount of money for a phone off contract in the UK I know it will be unlocked and that's how it should be. It's off contract so you shouldn't be tied in any way to any network. That's why you pay so much more for it. But it's all weird in the US I know that much and you guys are used to it.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
DVP is currently $50 off when going through the Dell EPP website.
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
Link please?
[Venue Pro General] dhafiz:
http://www.dell.com/us/eep/p/mobile-venue-pro/fs The preliminary ship date is 12/21 through this link.

Good find @notebookgrail!
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Isn't the EPP site for employees only, and won't dell just cancel the order when they find out you're not an employee?
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
Just buy a coupon off ebay. =/
[Venue Pro General] dhafiz:
It's not just for Dell employees. I logged in through my company member program through Dell, and the discount showed up just fine.
[Venue Pro General] jessej:
Just an FYI for those wanting to use the Dell EPP. Borders Rewards members receive access to this and it is free to sign up. I also believe that students may be eligible. They were at one point.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Which is the correct ebay coupon to buy, there is one for unlocked smartphones but will it work since the DVP is not sold unlocked?
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
For most dell ebay coupons - if you read the product description, it says to communicate with the seller to confirm the coupon works with the Dell product you are buying. Basically, the seller should try to use the new coupon and see if it works on the product (in this case DVP) you are buying and then sell it to you.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Contacted a few but no answer so far, I think first hand experience would also be helpful in picking the right coupon.

Just got a response from the seller and no go.
[Venue Pro General] notebookgrail:
I never got one from ebay. I hope someone can chime in.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
I just went with the EPP and it turns out my company is a participant so ordered that way.
[Venue Pro General] yourlife:
I got mine from ebay. You're looking for a "home and accessories coupon".
[Venue Pro General] bboyneko:
3:25:13 PM Customer Hi, where can I try the Dell Venue Pro phone? What store?

3:25:38 PM Agent I'll be glad to assist you.

3:26:18 PM Agent I apologize, but we do not have a Kiosk.

3:26:39 PM Customer there is no place in the United States where I can see the phone physically before purchasing it?

3:28:14 PM Agent I apologize but we do not have one Dan, you may order it and if you are not satisfied, you may return it within 21 days.

3:29:01 PM Customer ok thank you for the information
[Venue Pro General] TotalLamer:
What would it matter even if it were unlocked? All 4 major carriers use different 3G frequencies or technologies, so it's not like you could use the device on another carrier anyway.
[Venue Pro General] Peew971:
Why lock the phone then? :D
[Venue Pro General] benjaminries:
People on AT&T could use it on 2G. In fact, the following US carriers use GSM:

Alaska Wireless

ASTAC

Broadpoint

call4care

Cap Rock Cellular

Cellular One

Chariton Valley Wireless

Cincinnati Wireless

Cordova Wireless

Cross Communications

DTC Wireless

Einstein Wireless

GCI Wireless

iwireless

Immix

Indigo Wireless

KTC

Long Lines Wireless

Mid-Tex Cellular

NEP Wireless

Pine Cellular

Plateau Wireless

Simmetry

Union Wireless

Viaero Wireless

West Central Wireless

Westlink

XIT Communications

But then again, you might have caught the previous poster using the word "Europe", as in, he's from there - which, like Canada, has a great many carriers using GSM/UMTS.
[Venue Pro General] jessej:
The biggest reason to lock a phone to a specific carrier (in the US) is to allow for a carrier subsidy on the purchase of the phone. It helps to attract additional customers to their service or keep existing ones. It is the same reason we are seeing the Nexus S released for T-Mobile with a subsidy. Only they are doing it through Best Buy not Dell.
[Venue Pro General] benjaminries:
The logic on here seems to be that T-Mobile has paid some kind of indirect subsidy for the SIM lock, even with the off-contract price.

It looks like one option for us non-US users is to put the DVP on T-Mobile's pay-as-you-go plan. Apparently if you are with them for 2 months and have $10 credit in your account, they will give you an unlock code. I'll probably just get a $0.25/min simple rate plan and never make any calls - then the phone gets unlocked by February, worst-case scenario.
[Venue Pro General] Peew971:
Yeah but that was an answer to the comment below. Why are phones locked by carriers if they can't be used on other networks anyway because of frequencies? Seems a bit pointless.

I have someone bringing me the DVP 16GB to the UK, I'm hoping it will work out of the box like the TMOUS HD2 otherwise I'm sure someone will provide unlocking codes somewhere. You can already find unlock codes for pretty much all the WP7 devices that are on the market ;).
[Venue Pro General] citrix80:
unlock a phone is for use on 2g netowork with any carrier or use 2g service for travel to other countries., not mean it will not work if different 3g frequency.