yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OneEternalRound:
Thanks

Thanks for the help guys! One last question, what about all my previous apps that i had on the stock rom? do i have to re-download everything?! if i dont how do i put them all back on? Thanks again
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] illogic6:
You will need to redownload everything.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JasonK75:
Unless you backed them up to the SD card using Titanium Backup or My Backup Pro.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CheesyNutz:
from my phone duh
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HelgesenJ:
Learn how to use the search option. Top right, can't miss it. Not only would you have had a faster answer to your question, you wouldn't have looked like a total noob that doesn't know where questions should be posted.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abramme824:
wait, one last question...what time is it on the moon?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OneEternalRound:
Thanks again...

Thanks for the help everyone, i understand there is a search that "i cant miss" however i am a "noob" so yes this actually seems to work easier for me (no need to be rude.) also i just downloaded my backup pro for future use. but i also am curious if there is a certain spot where my previous contact are when i backed up my phone while in the boot/recovery mode?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mlin:
Your contacts should be synced with your Google account. Once you restore your account you should get them back.

Also, I agree that there is no need to be rude. You posted in the wrong place and what's done is done, so for those of you playing thread police, I suggest if you're not going to help, then don't comment at all.

Tapa tapa tapa
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buff McBigstuff:
http://lunarclock.org/

Learn to do a Google search
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abramme824:
lol...theres no f'ing way
[Galaxy Tab General] x2beach:
Ok, I am working on geting this working.. I get this upload around 2pm est,

I been messing with ATT and I got it working very good with Edge, speeds with about 4bars.
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
If you have a moment, could you zip and upload a copy for me:

http://demo.protcl.com/rotoupload/
[Galaxy Tab General] x2beach:
Ok. I got the rom complied and We Got 3g and H now on Tmobile Tab With phone. !!
[Galaxy Tab General] PlankLongBeard:
Okay, wait, HSPA+ and 3G on the T-Mo Tab?

How solid is this? Is this working well? Has it been tested? Shed some light dude.. lol.. my wife wants this dam thing and I wanna be sure I can set it up?

Sent From The Moon... With a HTC Glacier :)
[Galaxy Tab General] x2beach:
I am getting H.. getting ready to test speed
[Galaxy Tab General] x2beach:
Well Ive been running this rom, since late last nite

Here is what we got

3g/H WORKING!

gettnig 2119kbps down and 1303kbps UP

The radio for USA is bigger. and let me tell this Tab ROCKS! NOW!
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
Nice work, I'm looking forward to the new modem.bin. I'm on hold with T-mobile now to carrier unlock my Tab (I bought mine out of contract) .
[Galaxy Tab General] monkeyboywa:
when are you going to post this rom someone else can verify it's working?
[Galaxy Tab General] mywingtophone:
I second that. When are you planning to share it with us?
[Galaxy Tab General] x2beach:
my phone not work now.. when I dial a number it instantly ends the call
[Galaxy Tab General] x2beach:
Update.. Appears the Tmobile us modem.bin block's phone calls.. I get 3g/h mode now.. but when I try to place a call it instantly ends.

so I flashed back to the Euro modem.bin phone calls work.. but back at edge speeds
[Galaxy Tab General] TurckBoatTruck:
Those bastards.
[Galaxy Tab General] dcaglia:
We need to compile a new .bin.:D
[Galaxy Tab General] xexes:
I just posted at the end of Jyveafk's thread (in answer to someone's question)... some info about the European version PHONE itself... I was going to buy a Euro phone, but clubtech and an eBay seller both said that the Euro phones did not have the bands to get US Tmo 3G... they only get Tmo 2G.... so it appears by flashing the Euro firmware... we now have the same situation.

However, the Euro phones do get 3G over ATT 1900MHz frequencies... so at least for a while (ATT issued a memo in Oct saying they were phasing out the 1900MHz bands over 2010-11 from their towers because of "declining usage of 1900MHz only phones")... altho clubtech notes they've been saying that for a while and in some states/areas 1900MHz is the ONLY ATT freq, so obviously they won't be phasing them out in those areas.)

So it appears that as with the Euro phones themselves, flashing the Euro firmware will only allow 3G on the ATT phones.... bummer dude, cus ATT coverage where I live SUCKS.

OR MAYBE>>> maybe a different modem.bin file will allow phone coverage now that x2beach has 3g/H enabled.... so hoping there is a file that works....
[Galaxy Tab General] maxtcee:
Has anybody tried flashing the T-Mobile firmware on samware site
[Galaxy Tab General] Croak:
So Samsung DID do the same thing with the T-Tab as they did with the Vibrant, and left a radio with 1900 band in the device. Cool. :)
[Galaxy Tab General] ConceptVBS:
So its either

phone call + 2G

or

no phone call but + 3G (back to square one)

*sigh* :(
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
I flashed the modem bin from an AT&T captivate and now I have decent EDGE signal with my AT&T SIM. Still testing, but calls and data look good so far. I had to re-unlock my Tab until Samsung emails me the proper unlock code.
[Galaxy Tab General] x2beach:
they next step is to a modem.bin from like a Vibrant. and we can see if that will give us 3g and voice. anyone got the latest Vibrant Radio
[Galaxy Tab General] calin75:
I did installed the t-mobile rom from samfirware.com. Same situation as with the euro rom. It just gives you a different boot up screen and different apps installed. Oh and it's in german.
[Galaxy Tab General] ConceptVBS:
I think this is the stock image dump for the Vibrant. NOTE: I believe its 2.1. Not sure if that has any effect on the radio.
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
I am happy to report that i now have 5 bars of Edge using an AT&T SIM. This is the best I hoped to achive from the start, internet + phone capability in a tablet.

Burn in hell Tmobile, Samsung and AT&T, I got what I wanted!
[Galaxy Tab General] x2beach:
just sad,, we can get 3g working with tmobile with phone.. going to take a hacker to mode the tmobile usa modem.bin
[Galaxy Tab General] calin75:
Maybe the att version with the captivate modem.bin will give us 3G and voice services?
[Galaxy Tab General] TurckBoatTruck:
Congrats! Just to confirm: you are on a Galaxy Tab purchased from TMobile using an AT&T sim? And you are now capable of placing/receiving standard phone calls AND you can also access 3G internet via the AT&T network?
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
Everything except the 3G, which I anticipated before buying the device. Ill do it all again with an At&T tab when it hits the street on the 21st.
[Galaxy Tab General] xexes:
That's weird because the Euro phones can get 3G on ATT (but only 2G on Tmo).... so the Euro firmware on a US Tmo w/ATT SIM should be able to get 3G I would think?

I dunno but I am frustrated! But thanks to all who have made so much progress in the last 2 days... somehow I think someone will get there.
[Galaxy Tab General] tacoda:
I have a question. How can i flash just modem.bin??

edit: nm just make it .tar file and load the file into pda of Odin
[Galaxy Tab General] ayman07:
could you post the bin file. even if 3G works only. im on the $10 internet plan with my nexus one and i would like to see if it will work.
[Galaxy Tab General] cjsblues:
No luck...

I tried this a few days ago... no luck on flashing the Vibrant modem.bin to the Tab... no connectivity at all as far as I could tell (not even EDGE).
[Galaxy Tab General] tacoda:
i dont have one. i was just going to try us mobile vibrant leaked froyo modem.bin. and it didnt work out. no calls, no data... i flash back to euro modem.bin.
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
Thats because the Euro and Us Tabs have different radio hardware. It actually makes perfect sense and it is the expected outcone.
[Galaxy Tab General] xexes:
Yes, of course, it would be hardware dependent. I'm tired I guess and getting boggled.

I am curious.... you say this is the expected outcome for the Tmo phone... and that you will be doing it all over with the AT&T.... will you return the Tmo? Was it just for experimenting?
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
I will give the T-Mobile Tab to my wife, shes not a big Internet user, so EDGE is just fine. Right now she has my T-Mobile Nexus one that I used until the AT&T variant was released.

I never hack and return, I buy devices knowing in advance what the potential outcomes are.

That being said, I think the carriers deserve to have their crippled phones returned when they intentionally deny the consumer the best possible technological experience, so I feel its ok for someone to hack/brick a device and return it.

For me its a rush to have a working phone + tablet and to show the US consumers that they are being denied useful technology.
[Galaxy Tab General] wawoox:
I don't think there is a different hardware, its the same rf transceiver ship that support all frequencies , this is the info of the rf ship inside the galaxy tab :

PMB 5703

SMARTi UE – The worldwide first single-chip

dual-mode RF Transceiver IC with integrated

analog baseband functionality and 3G digRF

standard interface

S M A R T i U E is t h e first single-chip dual-mode UMTS / EDGE

Transceiver IC with 3G DigRF V3.09 standard interface for multi-media and

feature-rich mobile devices. It integrates the functionality of a UMTS- and EDGE

RF transceiver IC and the mixed signal blocks required for data conversion and RF

control. With its standard pure digital interface to the baseband it makes the

digital part independent from a specific RF implementation without the need for

an additional analog baseband IC.

Applications

Worldwide 3GPP UMTS / EDGE (W-EDGE) mobile handsets

HSDPA / HSUPA (H-EDGE) mobile data devices

Multi-Band UMTS

Quad-Band EDGE

Features

UMTS, EDGE, GPRS and GSM data conversion from digital into RF domain

UMTS, EDGE, GPRS and GSM data conversion from RF into digital domain

HSDPA cat. 10 (14.4 Mbps)

HSUPA cat. 6 (5.76 Mbps)

TRP / TIS support
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
Sure, THAT chip supports all frequencies, but, the front end amplifier chips are typically only present for the frequencies utilized by the specific carrier. This saves board space. So without the properly tuned amplifiers, no 3G.
[Galaxy Tab General] maxtcee:
roto you seem to know alot will you be doing any cooking now that we have open source?
[Galaxy Tab General] wawoox:
so there is 3G on AT&T because of the different frequencies

...maybe its the case and the amplifiers are tuned differently ..can it be tuned in software or its not possible...
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
It depends on if its needed. I've compiled/modded Cyanogen on my Nexus One but its a lot of work maintaining a complete ROM. I'll most likely just hack the things that interest me, like someone in another thread wants the cifs.ko driver to mount samba shares, so I may do that. I'm pretty busy with work, so its difficult for me to spend a lot of time playing.
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
I have no 3G on AT&T with the T-Mobile device. Thats due to hardware. The lack of 3G while using T-Mobiles service and a T-Mobile device is due to software, and should be fixable. I wont be able to play with that until my unlock code arrives.

I would have thought that using programmable tuned amps would be the best way to design the hardware, but unfortunately thats not been the case for the last few years. But this is based on my experience with HTC hardware, I'm really only guessing on the Samsung devices. We need to see the results of a tear down to know for sure.
[Galaxy Tab General] wawoox:
actually there is a tear down.......

ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-Teardown/4103/1
[Galaxy Tab General] calin75:
Forgive my ignorance, but in the TMobile Samsung Tab page it shows this: Band (frequency):850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)

Aren't the ATT 3g bands, 850 and 1900 included in the tablet? Please clarify that for me. Thank you.
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
No, the 850 and 1900 refer to 2G bands. The 850 3G support is not present in the above list of bands. Just because a device supports 850mhz 2G doesn't mean it supports 850mhz 3G. I wish it did :)
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
For those of you interested in more details, check out:

http://www.triquint.com/prodserv/markets/mobile-devices/3g-wcdma-wgprs-wedge.cfm

and look at the WCDMA Power Amps, you'll see each one supports a distinct band.

Perhaps someone can make out the chip numbers in the photo at

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-Teardown/4103/2

Specifically the TriQuint chips near the magenta square.
[Galaxy Tab General] wawoox:
number is TQM6M9014 ..here the info from there web....

triquint.com/prodserv/more_info/proddisp.aspx?prod_id=TQM6M9014
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
Good eyes. Reading that spec, you can see it supports all 4 GSM bands, and provides multiple electronic switches to route WCDMA signals around it to the WCDMA PA chips.

Now to identify the others and the bands they support.
[Galaxy Tab General] wawoox:
thanks Roto ...actually there is a hres version of this pics :)

I think this tear down is for an euro version because this has a white back

not the T-mobile U.S. version...with black back ...
[Galaxy Tab General] moviecouple:
So the bottom line right now is...

1. Phone + Edge

or

2. No Phone + 3G
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
Yes. Who's going to take 5 minutes and get me/us a copy of the stock T-Mobile firmware so I/we can get this finished already?
[Galaxy Tab General] maxtcee:
And how do I do that
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
You can start with:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9198390&postcount=19

take all the resulting files and zip them into one.

This may be usable as well, not sure. I'm going to try it now:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9197643&postcount=17

Edit: screw odin, I can't figure out how to make a dump with it :)
[Galaxy Tab General] moviecouple:
Well, it seems that they were able to get 3G on the T-Mobile Galaxy Tab working with AT&T, but without the phone capabilities. That's fine for me because all I need/want is the internet for the device.

Question is... How do you do it?
[Galaxy Tab General] xexes:
It comes with 3G connection capabilities... the reason people did not have 3G was they had hacked the Tab to get phone capabilities, and when you do that... you only have Edge/2G data connections...
[Galaxy Tab General] moviecouple:
Since all I want is the 3G capabilties (without phone) for use on my AT&T plan... how do I root or hack my Tab to do that? Is there a how-to video or instruction?
[Galaxy Tab General] euclides5370:
i get to make call and i cant get edge to work..
[Galaxy Tab General] Paten:
Wait till November 21st and buy the native AT&T Galaxy Tab.
[Galaxy Tab General] dalethefarmer:
I have a feeling that the AT&T Galaxy Tab will have phone capabilities + 3G by simply flashing the euro fw. The reason the euro fw doesn't work on the TMO tabs is because the TMO tab doesn't have the hardware for 3G that the fw uses...

I think the extra 50 bucks is going to be worth it...
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
Except at&t is selling the tab without the 16G flash from what ive read.
[Galaxy Tab General] TurckBoatTruck:
Ugh... its is as though all of the US carriers got together and said "hey, how can we make this just a complete cluster ****??" and the result of that is what we are now trying to deal with.

Any lawyers want to opine on the appearance of competitors colluding together to cripple a device in order to force users into these data-centric monthly plans?
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
Some of you may recall the Verizon V710 fiasco where they crippled the phones bluetooth. I paid $500ea for 2 of them. I was pissed. I got some settlement via a class action suit. I still dropped verizon over it.

Now we are faced with software that has been tweaked to cripple the device and now TMobile has the balls to block the internet of a valid SIM. Depending how I make out with the AT&T Tab, it may be time to cause a **** storm.

Im even contemplating switching to Tmo for all my service, but not if this keeps up. So far Ive been denied twice for my Tabs unlock code, even though I paid the full unsubsidized price. They will get a call every day for the next 40 days until I get my code.
[Galaxy Tab General] cjsblues:
Was thinking the same thing... this is absolutely a target for class action.

* We've proven the hardware is there...

* We've proven that they gimped it... and there's no technical limitation of their network that prevents this (preventing a bandwidth sucking device is a different story... but the uses for the Tab are essentially the same as a 3g phone as far as Tmobile is concerned)...

* I am even suspicious of them marking my SIM (as well as the IMEI) to make it invalid (I've tried to put my previously working SIM back into my previously working Tmo Vibrant and now can't make calls OR use the internet after having it in the Tab for the past few days).

This is straight booo-****.

Thank god for the inglorious basterds at XDA who allow people to get around this kind of crap... at least I hope there's a way.
[Galaxy Tab General] ayman07:
When I contacted tmobile on twitter this is what they had to say when I asked then why I couldn't use the plan from my android data.

"The different devices have different service on our network, the Tab is not a phone it is a mobile hroadhand device."
[Galaxy Tab General] Jyveafk:
That's EXACTLY how I feel. It's annoying to see official Tmobile forums spouting the official party line on this.

My points I raised there was basically 'Why does TMobile treat it's US customers worse than it's Euro/Asian customers?'

Returned hacked devices/Class action suit, calling techsupport every 3 hours, whatever it takes to let them know it's disgusting how they breaking hardware for a market. If I wanted this much control over a device I've purchased, I'd have bought an iPad for myself.

I didn't.

As it is, there's not much to separate this $599 device from a $250 Nook( which I had a play with today actually, it's very neat. Screen is beautiful. Hardware is very decent and stylish. Android gubbins isn't hidden too far below their launcher. Depending how things go in the next 6 days, I may end up getting one to play with.)
[Galaxy Tab General] moviecouple:
Rotohammer,

How did you get EDGE working off an AT&T SIM card? All I want is to use my T-Mobile Tab with my AT&T plan for internet only. Don't really care at all for phone capabilities.

Also... If I have an Unlock Code, does that mean I will be able to get 3G with my AT&T or is EDGE the best we can hope for?
[Galaxy Tab General] calin75:
You'll be getting edge on a tmovile tab using an att sim card. Frequencies are incompatible between t-mobile and at&t.
[Galaxy Tab General] ayman07:
You will only get edge. Its a tmobile device, you can't expect it to work with att 3G. Then again, the vibrant I think can be unlocked for att 3g. Anyway, if you want att 3g then you need the att tab.
[Galaxy Tab General] moviecouple:
OK. Edge will be fine for now. How to I get it to work on AT&T EDGE?
[Galaxy Tab General] ayman07:
You need to unlock it first. You can either call tmobile and try to get one from them or put the euro firmware on and play with the play with the bands to unlock the att edge functionality.
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
Presumably the TMo US Tab doesn't have the AT&T APN set up?

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] ayman07:
Try these:

MMSC: mmsc.cinguIar.com

APN: wap.cinguIar
[Galaxy Tab General] moviecouple:
It shouldn't need to be unlocked first. There were a few posts at the beginning of this thread that stated (x2beach got 3G/H without Phone) working and (rotohammer got EDGE with Phone) working perfectly without having it SIM unlocked.

They just never stated precisely how they did it.
[Galaxy Tab General] ayman07:
Yes it needs to be unlocked. The method of doing it though isn't the typical unlocking method. Either way you look at it, its unlocking. You need to switch the bands. And the only way to do that is by using the dialer which is why you need the euro firmware for.
[Galaxy Tab General] wawoox:
what is APN....and can it be implemented in the TMo model in any way..?
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
Finally, I got my Tab carrier unlocked, no thanks to T-Mobile of course. It took a bit of work with a hex editor, but I finally got my IMEI and device serial number back AND I can use either a Tmo or At&t SIM. The info is out there, just scattered. Unfortunately none the existing Galaxy unlock tools preserve the IMEI and serial number properly.

I will write an app to properly modify the nv_data.bin today, after I get some real work done.
[Galaxy Tab General] moviecouple:
rotohammer,

Thanks for the info and the upcoming app. So what exactly will the app provide? 3G/H without phone or Edge with phone... or will you be able to chose from the two?
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
Disclaimer - IANAL, so this is purely an opinion! I also don't want to get into any bun fights regarding the lack of phone functionality on US Tabs! ;)

Regardless of whether US Tabs are physically capable of voice (which we know they are), the carriers have decided not to include this functionality and critically specifically state that it does not support voice. So, I would have though it would be difficult to get any support for a class action based on this.

However, it seems that all of the major carriers have made this same decision, and this smacks of a cartel abusing its position and therefore it would seem to be in breach of antitrust rules. On that basis a class action may well be appropriate.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
APN = Access Point Name.

Unless TMo has done something really diabolical, you should be able to enter a new APN by pressing Menu and then selecting "Settings -> Wireless and Network -> Mobile Network Settings -> Access Point Names". YOu should be able to add a new APN by pressing Menu again, and the "New APN".

You would need to Google the settings for AT&T.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
It will just modify the nv_data.bin to carrier unlock the Tab, nothing to do phone capability, EDGE or 3G.

I just got my unlock code from T-Mobile, and guess what, it doesn't work, even with my original /efs directory restored, so its probably due to the Euro firmware. I need to hack the US firmware back in.

So, who is going to dump a US Tab for me to play with some files?
[Galaxy Tab General] wawoox:
thanks Dave for the info.

I wanted to confirm if a carrier support the 3G 2100 band , will it work with the TMo model or there are other variations.

...and is it possible somehow to know through any test software the true bands supported by the hardware.
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
I couldn't tell you for sure with respect to the Tab, but what I can say is that I bought a TMo US G1 two years ago and brought it back to the UK with me and had no problems getting full 3G meaning that the G1 at least supported both UMTS2100 and AWS1700/2100.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] moviecouple:
T-Mobile just emailed me my Unlock Code. Haven't had time yet to input it. Will try when I get home after work.

So this will allow me to use my AT&T SIM card with it and get onto EDGE, I am guessing? New to all this.
[Galaxy Tab General] rotohammer:
That is correct.
[Galaxy Tab General] moviecouple:
So at this point there would be no need for me to root/hack or whatever to my device for the purposes of using it on AT&T's data network.

Or... atleast until someone figures (or even if they can) out a way to get AT&T 3G working with it.