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[myTouch 4G General] MartyLK:
No update received yet. Not even a hint of it coming. Thinking about taking this phone back also because crap isn't working with it. I'd rather be without than frustrated.

Is there a way to download the update and do it manually rather than wait for some fat slob in some office somewhere to get done eating and ****ting before he sends the update to me?

Eh...nevermind. Phone is going back. The data doesn't work. Can't get it to work either. The H shows up and the arros light up, but I only get a data error message when going to the Market...or anything that requires data.
[myTouch 4G General] unremarked:
You mean the rooting procedure? Yeah, rooting the pre-OTA devices has been mostly miss. I've only seen one person post saying that they were able to do it, whereas tons of others were able to do it after the OTA. If there are other problems with the phone, you might have a defective unit.

You can manually update the device when and if we are able to get the HTML link for it from Google's servers, which is why I asked for you to run "aLogcat" (from the Market) on your phone like I and some others do to try and grab that link for future folks. The OTAs supposedly go out in automated waves, and are typically received within 48hrs of activation so if you haven't received yours yet, that might be why. There's no real guaranteed time frame beyond that. On my first device, I got it within 6hrs of activation. On my second, it's been over four days. And there won't be any hints or indications of incoming. You'll only receive a notification about the Update once it's been downloaded to your phone and ready to install.
[myTouch 4G General] MartyLK:
Gonna take this back and get a refund. These newer phones suck worse than anything I can think of. I'm so friggin peeved right now I cannot see straight. I will be returning to my HD2, which works better than any of them.
[myTouch 4G General] unremarked:
Okay, good luck to ya. Sorry things didn't quite work out. :(

Let us know if we can be any other help.
[myTouch 4G General] c_licious:
You sound s little like my wife who's also a bit technology challenged. Sorry it didn't work out for you. Have you thought about getting an iPhone? I hear they're pretty easy to figure out...
[myTouch 4G General] MartyLK:
I will look past the insults.

The reason, which was clearly explained in my previous post, for returning the phone was because of data issues. I was doing everything right and I guarantee YOU would not have succeeded with this phone either.
[myTouch 4G General] MartyLK:
It is hard to friggin believe but a T-Mobile tech support guy seriously thought he could blow smoke up my ass by telling there was a data outage in my area and it was why the data doesn't work on this MyTouch 4G. Here's the kicker, I pull the sim card out of the MT4G and slide it into my T-Mobile US HD2 and I have perfectly strong data and excellent cell reception. And I am using Android on my HD2.

It just friggin depletes my sensibilities having to deal with such idiots blowing smoke up my ass.
[myTouch 4G General] lghorn:
Marty,

Just FYI, and this may have just been me because I didn't see others report this, but I had all sports of crazy crap (errors with data, keyboard lockups) the first day I got mine. I was getting the same errors as you on data even though I had a data connection showing.after I got the OTA update all problems ceased. I also think the OTA updates started delays as more product was sold and activated, but that's no excuse. Just look how slow they've been in rolling out the OTA for the orig MT3G after it was announced.

Without the OTA (with your issues) I can see why you'd be so upset.

Root isn't sticking without the OTA, so don't aggravate yourself further with that for now.

Choose what's best for you for sure, but this is really an excellent device if Tmob can actually get the update out in a reasonable time. Best 'o luck!
[myTouch 4G General] Jeffmeister:
Weird I got a MyTouch4G about a week ago... didn't have any issues pre ota and have had no issues post ota... guess im just lucky.
[myTouch 4G General] c_licious:
Sorry man didn't mean to sound so rude. There was just so much agitation in your posts (wasn't all data related now was it) that I thought you might be happier with a phone that doesn't need root and adb to max out it's potential. Good luck with whatever you end up deciding.
[myTouch 4G General] pack:
Whenever I read your post they always crack me up....
[myTouch 4G General] lonlawrence:
I wouldn't put too much store in a guy running his keys over the screen... keys are all made of soft brass. Let's see him run his pocket knife edge over the screen!
[General Topics] malamen123:
Good someone knows how to unlock Bluebelt 2?

Not pay.

Thacks.
[Captivate Android Development] zerojay:
And this is why people who don't know what they are doing shouldn't be poking around with root. chmod'ing everything 777 is only one step removed from just running rm -rf * and deleting everything.

There has to be a much easier way of doing things.

And you can "revoke" the settings by remembering what each and every file in those directories had their permissions set to and setting them back with chmod. I guarantee they were not all 755.
[Captivate Android Development] bowtieguy:
chmod 777???

NO THANK YOU!!
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
it didnt change file settings inside folders, just folder setting
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
also this is where I got chmod 777 from - http://android-tricks.blogspot.com/2009/01/mount-filesystem-read-write.html and http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2009/04/25/mounting-system-partition-in-read-write-mode-in-android/

was obviously for android.
[Captivate Android Development] fatttire:
There's a reason why 777 permissions weren't there to begin with

also I love how there are currently 7 views and 6 replies. which means almost everyone is going - Aaah!!!!! NOOO!!! Must post and warn her!!!
[Captivate Android Development] sinoth:
This is meaningless. A quick lock does not mean the GPS is "fixed", I wish people would stop making misleading threads :(
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
ok, misleading threads? it was combination of two threads that I linked to, with explanation. Obviously it works for me, and stuff in other threads worked for other people. Enough already with GPS thread policing, hate and trolling.

Yes there is a

It is a system folder after all. Same as Windows warns you not to modify windows folder contents. People wrote to and modified android system folder for years. Your point is non existent.

And regarding chmod 777 - look at my screenshot, file permissions arent changed. what was changed was ability to write to those folders. Also Root Explorer function to mount system as R/W obviously does the same thing. Why is it there, if it is soooo dangerous

Went and did chmod 755 on the folders I 777'd. Everything is back to the way it was and works fine.
[Captivate Android Development] kletiz:
I do agree that it takes a while to get a lock...but the BIG concern here is tracking. Hows the accuracy, the tracking? Does it stay locked while driving? That is the REAL problem here...
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
I agree. I'll let you know regarding tracking as I test. Before however, not only it would take 5 min to lock on, but would lose me while I was driving, constantly. Accuracy was jumping to 200 meters or so. So instant lock was a good sign to me.
[Captivate Android Development] zerojay:
Wow, the cluelessness.
[Captivate Android Development] cnewsgrp:
For me it does. I have been using GPS with any issues for past few days. And to give credit what ever steps I have posted have been around for a long time just search for "Vibrant GPS fix". The only reason I needed to do that was my GPS stopped working after applying Cog 2.4 ROM with is Vibrant ROM. I applied Vibrant GPS fix and voila GPS now works!!

I must stress here that I have had no GPS issues with any of the Captivate ROMS or Stock ROMS. I usually get lock in 10 - 30 seconds and it tracks well for me. I used GPS test and I an see around 8-9 satellites with S/N ratio of 35 and accuracy of 16.5 regularly.

:)
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
Oh the boogeyman

I also would like to add, had anything went wrong during these steps - I would've just reflashed my phone to another Cognition ROM and started from scratch. Voila!
[Captivate Android Development] fatttire:
It's clear you don't understand the issue. It's not about editing the file system. Heck we all do that if we are in the dev section :p. It's about having /system permanently open to editing by anything. It's just problematic from a security point of view.

If I run an unverified app not from the android market, I sleep soundly knowing that it stays within its borders (unless I give it superuser permissions). I like to have the choice of saying, root explorer I trust you, you have SU permissions. Okay I trust who made this framework-res.apk, I can add this to /system/framework. I don't want /system permanently open.
[Captivate Android Development] DAGr8:
installing unverified app and installing fishy framework on phone that is the problem .. not the permissions , I ran my (previous) android phone for a long time with random folders / files at 777 absolutely no damage can nor did happen from doing this

alone

thishread is being filled wit los of misinformation while its sole purpose was to 'help the community with a ( well needed it seems ) gps fix

I dont know why everyone is bashing the OP I dont need the fix but its nice to know there is one ..

bashing is all I saw in here nbody told the OP something like ' why wouldnt it work with 644 nor any other suggestions no everybody started bashing .. I m like wow .

/end rant
[Captivate Android Development] cnewsgrp:
It would help if OP can take a snapshot of before and after to list what files had changed. That would help pinpoint what is being used by the GPS that needs more permissions.
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
Thank you. I mean, really.

Let me spell it out for you. In this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=786486 OP suggests

For root explorer to be able to write to system folder it would HAVE to change that folders permissions. I didnt have the app, so changed them manually, then used droid explorer. Then changed permissions right back to 755.

Well I just copied the files from the zip file I linked to in the OP, over to the system/bin, /etc and /lib I dont know how screenshot would help :o
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
aaaand uhhhhhh can you non-haters vote the thread up, plz? :o some 5 haters hit 1 star
[Captivate Android Development] skinien:
OP is trying to help. Geez, cut some.slack.
[Captivate Android Development] tytdfn:
Lol stop using the samsung keyboard the period is in the wrong spot.

btw op can you plz post some tracking results with mytracks or something. Locking on is not the problem, tracking is.

If you do ill vote this thread up ;)
[Captivate Android Development] vbhines:
No slack warranted. This one line is why the locking improved. I understand that the OP was trying to help, but the quote above makes it clear that s/he doesn't quite understand what's going on behind the scenes. And I think we're all ok with that too, it's just that this point has been discussed time and time again, even within this very forum.
[Captivate Android Development] eclypse3demons:
Whats funny is I never really had any GPS issues till going to custom ROMS, the initial lock took a while but not more than a minute or so. Tracking was good after that, till... I installed any version of Cog, other leaked ROM. Then I lost efficient tracking.

I tried the Jupiter fix, etc. Great I lock onto 8-11 SATS in like 30 seconds but when I am driving down East street and look on my screen it has me driving down Depot street, one street over, and it thinks it too so it says I am on that street, or when I come to a stop my arrow kinda moves around on its own, and if I take a turn it goes strait first well there is a problem =).

I personally think its an Antenna thing. If you notice the cellular reception is not the greatest on this phone, and if you pull the metal (or alluminum) back off there are two contacts on it. I assume that is some sort of antenna or something, very odd.

I like the phones performance, and freedom to actually use it unlocked, but I don't know for a phone, or for GPS there seems to be a bigger flaw and I am not sure its all software actually I know my first sentence kind of contradicts this statement but something seems off...
[Captivate Android Development] fatttire:
I'm not a hater, i'm just pointing out what I see as flaws in your approach using specific arguments.

If you'd rather not hear them just say the word and I'll move on.

I don't think you understand root explorer. It doesn't do anything with chmod - this is the whole point of granting it super user permissions- it doesn't have to. Imagine the security hole if once you opened root explorer anything could access / as rw

Next point - someone said here they were fine using chmod 777 on / - the whole definition of a risk is that you might slip by okay. If you're comfortable with that- then okay- but you made no mention of the risks and it was our ethical duty to say them before some.poor unsuspecting noob tries this and has a problem
[Captivate Android Development] fatttire:
I dont have time to read that thread but thats just not correct. I'm sorry you've been mislead.

Changing permissions is used to provide greater access - root explorer has root privledges.
[Captivate Android Development] eclypse3demons:
(not specific to the above post just my 2cents)

There is a difference between educating someone on the risks of playing with chmod and not reverting their changes, and almost calling them idiots though, lets keep that in mind please when responding. I have noticed a lot of snide comments on the OPs post that are not really helpful, we understand not everyone knows what they are doing, but to be honest you can either help them or let them learn the hard way. The way I see it, a lot of us were or are noobs, can't we all just get along :D
[Captivate Android Development] sf1120:
how do you know which file goes to which folder?i downloaded the zip file,unrared it,gave me a folder "Jupiter-v006".inside this folder is 3 files,one is a CONF flie named "gps.conf",second files is a XML document named "jupiter" and last file is another CONF File named "secgps.conf".how do you know which goes to system/bin,which to system/etc and which to system/lib?

edit:nevermind,was looking in wrong folder :) disregard please
[Captivate Android Development] DemonWav:
And you could have skipped the whole deadly "777" with Root Explorer. Come on, its like 2 bucks.
[Captivate Android Development] fatttire:
ill answer anyways. you know it is right when you copy over them.
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
yeah, tomorrow I'll use MyTracks
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
I've mentioned in the OP that I tried changing it to MS Based previously.....
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
Ethical, yes. However, everyone is so jumpy about this GPS issue. And it shows. lol We could be more courteous :p
[Captivate Android Development] zerolock:
OK - it seems that there is some confusion around chmod 777 vs 755 or any other three number combination. If you are interested, do not know what the numbers mean or why you should not it that way - please continue - everyone else - skip this pelase.

chmod <- change mode

777 <- the permissions matrix, from left to right each digit represets the permissions for owner, group, other.

to find the owner and the group use ls -l (l is for long) this will show you who owns what what group is assigned and what the perms are.

There are actually 4 digits here (if you include the sticky bits) but I will skip that.

Again, the three shown above are Owner, Group, Other (respectively)

As for the numbers

7 = full control

6 = read and write

5 = read and execute

4 = read only

3 = write and execute

2 = write only

1 = execute only

So on most all system files - the Owner is root and the group is root (yes by default each ID on the system has their own group of the same name).

Other stands for any ID that is not the owner or a member of the assigned group. This includes guests and people/processes that do not have IDs on the system or do not have privledges.

The GPS software has to interface with the hardware - meaning that whatever process ID it runs under needs system level access. With this level of access (usually root) the "Other" perm should be 5, restricting things without those privs to on be able to read and execute. Giving Other the permission of 7 gives EVERYONE/THING full control.

Though this is actually negated because most of the time, this filesystem is mounted as read only (hence the name ROM - read only memory), giving OTHER full control is really against best practice.

so guys - flame on or stop - in the end - the OP and a few others did not really do a horrible thing. But as a best practice should not.

If you want the set your perms back to the way they are supposed to be - open ROM Manager and run the Fix Permissions unter the Utilities section.

Have a great driody day....

zl
[Captivate Android Development] Phoenix-Lead:
Why do you need so many steps to improve your GPS? I have gotten better results by following 3 very simple steps that a noob could follow. I do appreciate the hard work you have obviously put into this, but for the average user,(which I am not a part of) this would be difficult and time consuming.
[Captivate Android Development] Krad:
chmodding and chicks.. turn me on!
[Captivate Android Development] jdbeitz:
It worked!! Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] nsaia:
When you say it works - what works? Locking or accurately tracking? Can you post some results?
[Captivate Android Development] Krad:
What is the difference if you go to launcherpro and make a shortcut to lbsmode and change the same settings people have been changing for months?

aren't these setting plastered in the easy to follow captivate bible thread?
[Captivate Android Development] j101399j:
Another option instead of all of the chmod stuff, use busybox. See my original thread, look at method 2 for how. Click the quote below to go there:
[Captivate Android Development] bmvik:
ok, I'll try this next time I flash my rom to new Cognition. I just had to use chmod because it wouldnt allow me to write to system folder, you know. But yeah I'll try busybox.

Oh and I'll post my MyTracks from couple of days ago in a few.
[Captivate Android Development] loraque:
I have to agree with the posters on the locking not being the issue (assuming settings are correct). I can hit 9-11 sats in less than 30 seconds, with locks on 7-9 depending in LBStestmode. If I then immediately go to Maps or Nav, it takes from 5-never minutes to derive its position. And when it does, it is with the wrong heading, off by up to 200m, and basically just not tracking.

This seems like a signal strength issue, which I don't see how software is going to change. I hope I am wrong.

Does anyone see higher than 40 dbs on your best sats? Most are in the 30's for me, which is too low I have read, for accuracy.

I DID take the back off the phone to see if it makes a difference on signal strength (metal back causing problems I suspected). But no, only marginal difference in signal. What made more of a difference is landscape vs portrait orientation. Of course it is worse in landscape, where everyone that is USING GPS will be in. Still not a large difference, and not enough to help out the poor signal.

And before you click on REPLY and spout off (you know who you are!), I am very glad "you" have one of the exception phones that tracks perfectly. Count your lucky stars and stop reading GPS threads, if yours is working.

Would love to see your feedback on the tracking results, as that is where it counts. Good luck!
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
I have an evo as well as a captivate and can tell you that the signal strength does not seem to be the issue with the captivate.....side by side, gps test will show them both picking up the signals at roughly the same level. Often times the evo and captivate using google nav will tell me to turn almost in stereo..

Problem is the captivate will not always work for whatever reason whereas the evo will lock onto satellites every time....

One interesting thing i have noticed is that while using gps status or gps test, the captivate seems to always be trying to tweak the exact coordinates, lat/lon, whereas once the evo gets a location the readings remain stable until a move is made. Is this relevant? I have no clue but it does seem odd that the thing is never happy with where it thinks it is located...lol
[Fascinate Android Development] CrimsonKnight13:
I just did a major mistake by copying sh from Windows to /system/bin/sh. Not haivng the execute bit has stopped me from using adb shell.

Could someone provide a clockworkmod recovery file that restores sh & it's permissions? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
[Fascinate Android Development] times_infinity:
Why not just run the fix permissions script from the advanced menu in clockworkmod?
[Fascinate Android Development] i_am_enderst:
well, would be easier from a linux box:

chmod 755 sh

adb push sh /system/bin/sh

adb reboot
[Fascinate Android Development] CrimsonKnight13:
Thanks. I fixed it through recovery mode shell via adb.

I'm getting the following garbage when I do ls within adb shell. Is there any way to fix this?

# ls
ls
←[1;34mcache←[0m ←[1;32minit.rc←[0m ←[1;34msbin←[0m
←[1;34mconfig←[0m ←[1;32minit.smdkc110.rc←[0m ←[1;34msdcard←[0m
←[1;34mdata←[0m ←[1;32minit.smdkc110.sh←[0m ←[1;34msqlite_stmt_journals←[0m
←[1;34mdbdata←[0m ←[1;34mlib←[0m ←[1;34msys←[0m
←[1;32mdefault.prop←[0m ←[1;32mlpm.rc←[0m ←[1;34msystem←[0m
←[1;34mdev←[0m ←[1;34mmnt←[0m ←[1;32msystem.prop←[0m
←[1;34mefs←[0m ←[1;34mpreinstall←[0m ←[1;34mtmp←[0m
←[1;36metc←[0m ←[1;34mproc←[0m ←[1;34muserdata←[0m
←[1;32mfota.rc←[0m ←[1;32mrecovery.rc←[0m
←[1;36minit←[0m ←[1;34mres←[0m
[Fascinate Android Development] iofthestorm:
Those are bash color escape codes but I don't know why adb is outputting them since I'm new to Android.
[Fascinate Android Development] namebrandon:
It's a windows command prompt thing..

Easiest solution, do this from your adb shell (you'll need to do it each time)

export LS_COLORS=none

alternatively you can installed cygwin and spend a little time setting it up so that the ANSI colors are displayed when using adb shell.

I assume the colors show up fine under linux, which is why this got included in some kernels/rom packages without anyone addressing it.
[Fascinate Android Development] CrimsonKnight13:
Thanks for the info. It shows up correctly through a cygwin terminal. I'll just use that for now on.
[Touch Diamond2, Pure General] Kopernikus:
Hi,

I have a strange problem with my HTC Diamond Touch 2.

When it's synced with my pc (through usb) all goes well, but as soon I enable a data connecting (GPRS or 3G) or when I receive an SMS or call windows mobile disconnects, this is very anoying when syncing pictures or music.

Who nows the solutions to this problem?

Thx,

Kopernikus
[Vibrant General] jakemg:
Hey, guys (and gals):

I posted this in the thread about the z4Root application, but didn't get an answer. It's kind of a general question anyway.

I'm totally interested in Rooting my Vibrant (using z4Root or some other one-click application based method), installing lag fix, and wifi tethering. That's it. I'm just worried that when 2.2 is pushed out to us, I won't be able to get the OTA. Does anyone know if the system is left intact enough by these methods to allow me to receive an OTA? Otherwise I might just suffer with what I have and wait a while. Also, anyone know if I can easily unroot using these methods if that is what is needed to receive an official OTA?

I'm not a total noob to rooting. I had an original MT3G, and rooted that one, flashed roms, etc, and even restored to stock before selling on eBay.

Thanks.