yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid 2 General] ZeroOveride:
Not necessarily true. While to get the second phone they will not have to sign a new contract, I have seen people able to keep old plans and upgrade. I saw someone do it a week ago at the VZW store. Most likely the new line of service won't be under that plan, but there is a chance to keep the old plan on the existing line, but it depends on the plan.

On another note . . .

ANGDROID: Any update on using the SIM card. I know when there isn't a SIM in the phone and it is on GSM only, it roams to AT&T for emergency calls and displays the AT&T network name. Hopefully you've come further on this.
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
OH ok thanks for filling me on that. Great to know, well I wish you all the best. I hope someone can unlock this though.
[Droid 2 General] ZeroOveride:
AngDroid was just telling me on Twitter to get it to work it needs some Blur files so he may do it when he releases Fused
[Droid 2 General] bartoku:
I need an excuse to buy a D2G

I am on AT&T and would kill to have a decent Android phone with a keyboard and HSDPA 3G support at 850MHz.

I have an Electrical Engineering degree so I am not shy to prospect of getting dirty with some code and hardware. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get involved with cracking the D2G radio? I am new to the scene so I would need to be brought up to speed on the tools and technical basics, but I am a quick learner and hope I would be able to contribute as well.

I am curious does anyone know if the D2G would be usable on Sprint's network somehow. I just have this dream of a phone that can jump between all four US carriers. Are there any CDMA phones that hope between Sprint and Verizon? Can you bring a none Verizon unlocked CDMA phone to either carrier? How does that work since there are no sim cards. Sorry this may not be the best thread for these questions but a point in the right direction would be great.

Thanks!

--

Phone:

Nexus One (AT&T 3G Radio)

A dusty iPhone 3GS

Looking for an excuse to buy a Droid 2 Global
[Droid 2 General] chris975d:
Get in touch with AngDroid on Twitter and teamdefuse.com. He's been working on it, and his latest tweet shows that he has it working on a D2G already. He may be very close to a release, but may still need help with coding. His Fission ROM's for the D2G are amazing.
[Droid 2 General] newk8600:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=891728

It seems it's been unlocked to AT&T but it won't be completely free and it won't be released on XDA.

p.s. I wonder why this thread hasn't been moved to the Droid 2 Global general?
[Droid 2 General] botgod:
I would happily pay up to 100 bucks for this solution... <3 the droid 2 global but my family all uses ATT/T-Mobile =\
[Droid 2 General] walderrama:
Is there any news?

I have an unlocked clean ESN D2G, and I'm outside US (Chile actually)

how can I test the ROM's ? or help this guys?
[Droid 2 General] eNkrypt:
Any progress guys?
[Droid 2 General] TimelesslyPrecise:
Some other folks decided it would be best to try and capitalize on the discovery.

They want to charge 100 for the work, you mail the pnone in, and there is no guarantee they won't brick your phone, and also won't provide included upgrades.. (last time i looked)

Other than that, I'm not sure.. :/

It's on some other forum, I'm sure if you google it, you can find it easily.

Good Luck!!

oh, ps..

it only supports At&T's 3g band, so if you intend to use it on t-mobiles network, it will not operate at it fullest potential.

For the US, that seems to be one hefty price to pay, for a phone which also is very difficult to customize, considering it has the locked bootlaoder. :/

Next phone is probably going to be an HTC.... Motorola killed it for me..
[Droid 2 General] Canio Wolf:
This made me sad.. I was looking forward to getting a D2G for AT&T just to have and mess around with but I guess not :( I'm definitely not willing to pay $100 for the band unlock, it's just not worth it
[Droid 2 General] mhansaq:
Motorola Droid 2 Global

I bought motorola droid 2 global form the US. it is locked and i am not able to use it in montreal.

when I set to GSM and I can see rogers even thought I do not have the rogers sim

what does this mean?

thanks
[Droid 2 General] trips11:
progress on this?

Any progress on this guys
[Droid 2 General] silverfang77:
It's because VZW doesn't want you using it on AT&T or T-Mobile.
[Droid 2 General] trips11:
Thanks for letting me know that. That's a news for me. Although I was asking if some one had made any progress on unlocking the phone for ATT or T-mobile
[Droid 2 General] TimelesslyPrecise:
See my previous comment :)
[Droid 2 General] freak4dell:
That's too bad that a certain group decided to be greedy on this. I can understand charging that much if there was a guarantee of it working, but the secret should have been released for free with a disclaimer that they weren't responsible if you messed up your phone. I would even be happy to pay the $3 that they charge for their app in order to get access to the necessary files (which I find kind of off-putting, as well, since it kind of forces a donation, in a way).

Hopefully we'll see a free leak at some point, so those that are willing to take the risks themselves are free to do so.
[Droid 2 General] ywuncha:
us gsm...

anyone tried to put in the correct apns?
[Droid 2 General] uvulus1:
Shot in the dark

Just a wild a$$ guess, shot in the dark from a total noob: back in mac os 9 and prior systems, there was a string of code in everything, "4E71" iirc, that was basically an on-off switch. Maybe there is a similar string that's common in android or in the vzw ROM that appears in the aforementioned sections that can simply be switched to disable the carrier lockout components? Sorry if this is a waste of keystrokes. Hope someone can make it work. The droid pro is the only recent phone that has the features I want.
[Droid 2 General] freak4dell:
The band unlock was released a while back. All you need is a rooted phone and some time. I don't think you can do the official update to Gingerbread and keep the band unlock, but people have figured out ways to upgrade to the Gingerbread kernel without losing it, thereby giving them the ability to use custom ROMs that are based on Gingerbread.
[Droid 2 General] TimelesslyPrecise:
Yeah, look on the internet.. It's tbh team black hat carrier unlock for d2g.. I'm sure you will find it, it's all posted in one if the other forums

good luck
[Droid 2 General] miketoasty:
Whats wrong with Verizon wireless?
[Droid 2 General] jy3ng4:
Nothing. But in it's current state, you won't be able to use a foreign SIM (and consequently get cheap local rates) in the D2G in any of the yellow countries

EDIT: This turned out to be inaccurate, my bad
[Droid 2 General] eddieonofre:
That sucks!!!! I was looking foward tobuy one droid pro and send it to my cousing in Colombia so he can usedthere and understant why is that I like so much my the android OS.
[Droid 2 General] silver6054:
Do we know that is true? Isn't it possible that these bands are just locked down in the US (or for the US Carriers)? That's why we need someone to try in Canada!
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
So far it is just the US bands. I believe you can use an AT&T sim card out of the country. But that really doesn't help us.
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
It not that Verizon is horrible, but its the fact they sell a product that is advertised to work on 850 and 1900 bands and then when you get the phone it doesn't. Its just nice to have options when it comes to our phones.
[Droid 2 General] jy3ng4:
It looks like I was wrong. Someone just posted on droidforums that he was able to use the D2G with two GSM 1900 providers in Chile.

So you're right, it seems to just be a US GSM restriction.

Sorry for jumping the gun guys :/
[Droid 2 General] leobg:
I am from Canada and I am looking to replace my Milestone with a Droid 2 Global. I was thinking buying one off contract from Verizon, unlocking it and use it up here in Canada. This "frequency lockout" or "operator lockout" however is quite disturbing and sort of a show stopper for now (considering I have to dump $600+ to acquire the phone). I am pretty sure this is a software restriction enforced by Verizon's ROM and (I guess similarly to SIM lock) could be taken off. Question is how long it will take until somebody figures this out...

Two things concern me - if it is an "operator lockout" and Verizon banned AT&T and T-Mobile US only, phone would work fine in Canada on Rogers/Telus/Bell (based on the report phone worked in Chile on 1900MHz. However, I wonder if WCDMA bands will be all useable too (would the phone be fully functional in Canada on 2G/3G)

Considering above is ok, the second one remains - I won't be able to use the phone while travelling to the US (based on report that UK SIM couldn't register to any network while in US I read on the board). This is not such a huge problem as I don't go south that often, but still - bothers me.

If somebody is willing to ship his/her Droid 2 Global up here to me I can test with Rogers/Fido and Telus 2G/3G networks. I am totally ok taking the return shipping fee (I am really interested in this phone). I know there is a serious amount of trust required for something like that but if anyone is interested, PM me.
[Droid 2 General] jy3ng4:
Well it appears at least one person has successfully connected the Droid Pro to AT&T and T-Mobile, although he hasn't revealed how he did it. He got 3G to work on AT&T, but could only get EDGE on T-Mobile. Apparently it is "very very risky" according to the guy who posted the pics. Check it out here: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ssion-here?p=14130400&highlight=#post14130400
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
It has to be a Verizon employee. Anybody else with these skills are in our developing community and would gladly help us with this problem. I am betting it is a Verizon employee taunting us. But at least its possible, so we are getting closer.

EDIT- It is also possible these pictures weren't taken in the US, AT&T and Tmobile have both been reported to be working on these phones out of the country. We will just have to wait and find out.

EDIT- I wonder if it would work flashing a milestone 2 radio?
[Droid 2 General] emarsha:
I finally got my SIM unlocked. It wasn't cheap, but I'm halfway there.

I've been following all the threads in all the forums concerning this issue. It's a shame that Verizon brands this as a "quadband" phone, yet lock out the bands major US carriers use. Does that really make it a "world phone?" No, it doesn't.

With this said, I will gladly donate to whoever find us a fix. I would rather a developer get my hard earned money than Verizon.
[Droid 2 General] jy3ng4:
Could you elaborate on this? Did you use a third-party unlocking service? How much did they charge?

Well to be fair it seems ever since we got confirmation earlier today of the D2G working on a GSM 1900 network in Chile, that the device is only restricted from connecting to US GSM carriers, most likely via a carrier lock (as opposed to a band lock)

But it looks like we are very close to a fix
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
Does anybody have a system dump or the radio img for the Europe Milestone 2?
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
You can go on ebay and buy an unlock code but they do state that you can not use the bands in the US.
[Droid 2 General] theimpaler747:
Remember guys, ebay links are not allowed on XDA :)
[Droid 2 General] emarsha:
I apologize, Im a newbie :)
[Droid 2 General] theimpaler747:
I understand, no problem, just letting you guys know :D
[Droid 2 General] gbarayah:
$400 bucks off contract for a phone like this isn't bad at all. How did you get away with purchasing the phone prepaid? I thought they didn't allow that with smartphones?

Now if we could just figure out what's blocking the AT & T 3G Band, there could be a viable Android option on AT&T. The only other thing I have seen is the HTC Desire Z (Canada Bell Version) unlocked but that is fetching close to $600 on Ebay right now.
[Droid 2 General] emarsha:
> I got really lucky. I went the day they went online, the 9th. I told the guy what my intent was, to unlock and use on AT&T. (I've been a loyal customer for years and have a corporate discount :D) He tried to get me on a month to month and I told him I'd end up canceling after a month. He wanted the sale and I wanted the phone and he found a way to get the sale credit and me a discount. Everyone wins!

>I've had a lot of Android phones, Aria, Captivate, MT3GS, G2 and this is by far the one I like best. Im really hoping we can get a fix on this issue. Im not happy with AT&T's android selection and not a big iPhone fan. I do hope that it's a simple fix.
[Droid 2 General] gbarayah:
I'm in the same boat. I have been with AT&T for nearly a decade now and so I'm grandfathered in with some great prices on data ($10/month unlimited) I don't want to leave and lose that plan but their offering of Android phones is awful. Hopefully a workaround for this can be figured out, if not I'll be on the market for a Desire Z unlocked from Canada to use with AT&T's 3G...
[Droid 2 General] compuguy1088:
Some of us don't want to pay the higher rates of Verizon.....
[Droid 2 General] compuguy1088:
You forgot to add that the Samsung Vibrant, works with 3g on AT&T.....
[Droid 2 General] coolpoete:
If someone is willing to try the method of simply calling and asking VZW global services to provide you with the unlock code they should be able to do so for you. I have a HTC Imagio and this is what I did:

Called Verizon, told them that I will be traveling abroad and that I will be using a GSM sim card from the country that I'm going to instead of the Vodaphone SIM card that came pre-installed. The only requirement is that 1) my account had to be in good standing, no balances due, late fees, etc. and 2) I can only unlock 1 device per year (i think, or something like that). They walked me through providing the unlock code and it was done. The next day I went to T-Mobile and bought a pre-paid plan and it worked right away. Point is, just ask and they might just give it to you. Hopefully this will work in the US.

I remember when the HTC Touch Pro 2 and Imagio launched on Verizon as world phones there were getting alot of these requests and they had to have known that people were doing this. Hopefully nothing has changed.
[Droid 2 General] silver6054:
This has nothing to do with a SIM unlock! On many previous Verizon World phones, unlocking and putting in a new SIM was all that was required.

However, with the Droid 2 Global: Those reporting the issue (including me) have got the codes from Verizon and replaced the Vodaphone SIM with foreign SIMs (UK in my case) or AT&T/T-Mobile SIMs. The issue is that although the phone can "see" the US GSM networks, there appears to be a carrier lock that prevents the phone from being used in the US on these bands. We were concerned that the 850/1900 bands might not be usable (see quote at beginning of this thread) but one user successfully used it in Chile on the 1900 band. So it is an issue with not being able to use the bands on US carriers, regardless of which SIM is in the phone.
[Droid 2 General] qipengart:
Problem solved here:

http://www.expansys-usa.com/motorola-droid-milestone-2-android-smartphone-unlocked-203511/

peace, this works eh?
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
There policy has changed, they have locked out the bands. This is a two step process- Step one unlock code from Verizon and Step two unlock the bands. It not as easy as some previous devices.
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
If you think buying another phone is problem solved than your sadly mistaken. This is about principle and price. Verizon offers a phone that will work on AT&T but wont let it on AT&T and this pisses people off. The other problem is price, $600 is a lot to many people when so many people are finding ways to get this phone for under $400. Im also not sure how having a phone that doesn't work with USA 3g is fixing the problem?

Price+No 3g+Not Shipping=No Thank You
[Droid 2 General] firebrain:
The policies haven't changed. The bands are locked in the firmware. Verizon always locked non-Vodafone/Verizon sims. You were and still are able to unlock buy calling VZW Global Services. But you can only use non-US GSM . USA GSM never worked on Blackberries, Windows Mobile or any other CDMA/GSM worldphones that were manfactured for US carriers. As I posted earlier a hack for unlocking the bands was developed for the US HTC Touch Pro 2 and this will hopefully be done for Droid 2G.
[Droid 2 General] silver6054:
Don't know about Blackberries and Windows Mobile, but among non-smartphones, the Samsung Renown worldphone works fine on US GSM (no data services but text and calls). It was because of my experience there that I was surprised it didn't work in the Droid 2G.
[Droid 2 General] celticjon:
Yes, they did. All you needed was the SIM unlock code.

This is NOT about the SIM unlock code, this is about radio programing. The phone will not connect to AT&T or T-Mobile networks even if you get the SIM unlock code.
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
It was sprint in the past who locked the bands, it was only now Verizon started to do it. Any past phone worked fine just unlocking it. Now it is more complex, and many people including me are work very hard to make this work.
[Droid 2 General] zeroktal:
Actually my HTC Touch Pro 2, works with other us carriers. I called up, asked for unlock and boom it works. No mods or anything else.
[Droid 2 General] bmtbandit:
This seems like something that could possibly be unlocked with something like RadioComm. Fits the description of it is a dangerous process etc.
[Droid 2 General] bmtbandit:
I just pulled the NV table, a couple interesting fields for this problem. Seem 4871 and 4872. NV_GSM_DCS_CARRIER_SUPPRESSION_I and NV_GSM_1900_CARRIER_SUPPRESSION_I. Working on seeing what the data in these seems means. It could be as simple as editing these seems to unlock the channels.
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
Do you mind sharing the NV Table?
[Droid 2 General] bmtbandit:
I won't share it as it has values related to my specific phone that I dont want publicly shared.

The key in question is:

EE0276FD00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Any ideas on how this may lock it down? I am open to suggestions.
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
Fair enough. Let us know if you find something.
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
Maybe try a hex editor.
[Droid 2 General] bmtbandit:
I have, but I dont get anything that tells me this is what you need to do to fix it.
[Droid 2 General] Kazolar:
maybe its some sort of a filter.

i fed the 4 bytes through some code and I got a few numbers --

not sure if it relates to anything

-4606,30461 -- if read as 2 shorts

or 60930, 30461 -- if unsigned.

reading as int gets a big negative number which makes no sense.
[Droid 2 General] Kazolar:
i think I may have something

I took the 4 byte stream

read it as an int and then I do the following

country code & stream

I checked a few codes and for US (310) I get 52 -- and for a bunch of others I get the code back.

needs more testing, but if we or the stream with US codes, we might get the result which might work.
[Droid 2 General] jbinbi:
Just want to make sure I am following everything so far as I am very interested in a global vzw phone, don't want the droid pro, have an original droid, and also waiting for the htc merge (which i view as a tp2 keyboard on android and capacitive screen)

I want the gsm for outside NA, but want to not have to use vzw but rather use a local sim.

1. YOu can get unlock codes from vzw it seems, correct?

2. You cannot use a US (TMo or ATT) sim and get phone or data here in the US, correct?

3. It seems you cannot use a non US sim here in the US and get phone or data?

4. It seems that you can be outside of NA and use a local sim for both phone and data? This seems to be working from the member who has taken it to chile?

5. Has anyone else besides this one member made this phone to work anywhere else outside NA besides chile with a local sim from that country?
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
Keep up the good work it sounds promising.
[Droid 2 General] Kazolar:
try EE0277FF

that might work
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
1. You can get unlock codes from vzw it seems, correct?

Yes, if you call up Verizon and had an account with them for more than 6 months than they will gladly hand you an unlock code.

2. You cannot use a US (TMo or ATT) sim and get phone or data here in the US, correct?

As of right now only a handful of people have been able to get this to work but rest assured we will have a workaround very soon.

3. It seems you cannot use a non US sim here in the US and get phone or data?

Like I said you can but not at this time.

4. It seems that you can be outside of NA and use a local sim for both phone and data? This seems to be working from the member who has taken it to chile?

Yes, you will have no problem using a sim card as long as is is US Tmobile and US AT&T. But you can take an AT&T sim card and roam with it.

5. Has anyone else besides this one member made this phone to work anywhere else outside NA besides chile with a local sim from that country?

Yes, we have reports of people in Canada getting them to work and several other countries.
[Droid 2 General] bmtbandit:
Whats your reasoning. I have not way of testing this, as I am actually a VZW subscriber, and no ATT sim. Worst case we should be able to wait till the Milestone 2 comes out and read this field and see what they have in it.

Below is the 2 full Seems, if you notice teh 76FD is the same for both the 1900 and the DCS(1800 from my understanding):

NV_GSM_DCS_CARRIER_SUPPRESSION_I,4871,0,128,200376FD00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,

NV_GSM_1900_CARRIER_SUPPRESSION_I,4872,0,128,EE0276FD00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,
[Droid 2 General] Kazolar:
well -- I took EE0276FD and turned it into a int -- then I tried doing a logical & operation which is a common way of filtering with a number of internal mobile country codes. For all except 310,311 -- the one for US -- I got the code back. -- that is

EE0276FD & 242 = 242.

for US EE0276FD & 310 = 52.

Which is a sign that they're code would check

return EE0276FD & country code == country code.

I would imagine that 200376FD is more restrictive since it's probably meant for the even a smaller range of carriers. I would imagine if my suspicion is right a fully unlocked phone would have it something like FFFFFFFF -- which would open it up for every country -- but my guess is they would have something that would check for that somewhere in the firmware of this version and then nothing would work. So I'm guessing setting it to something that just opens up country codes 310-316 would keep from getting hosed. I should be getting the droid pro within a day or so, I figure it's the same deal in there. Can you give me some info on you got to this data so I can get a head start with it.
[Droid 2 General] bmtbandit:
Sure. First off my phone is still sim locked. I have the unlock code, but apparently you need a non vzw sim to unlock it? Is there a sequence to unlock with out a vzw sim. I will be glad to elaborate on the process, just want to see if the global sim number restriction changes when unlocked.

You will need to get RadioComm 11.11.7

Go into NV/Seem viewer, and pull the data for 3gsm - 7201

Its seem 4871 and 4872.

If once I unlock it the number in seem 4871 changes, then we know this is the way to unlock it.