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[Droid Incredible General] blackwolf77:
And I assume there is no other way to root other than unrevoked?????? Surely the developers of unrevoked are working on finding the loop hole? I hope anyway. I miss my root apps that I had on my droid!
[Droid Incredible General] linuxmotion:
You can root without unrevockeds method. I can't remeber the exact procedure as i dont even know what i did wholly. But it involved unrooting but leaving the app and su. Upgrading to the proper baseband. Receiving the ota then pushing su again. I did this a few months ago though right after the 2.2 ota update. Took me like 3 hours to achieve root. If your interested i can try to repeat my method tomorrow and report back.

Sent from Conical. 07
[Droid Incredible General] Ocelot13:
or just downgrade.. reroot, have s-off, then update, then reroot
[Droid Incredible General] blackwolf77:
I like the downgrade idea. But I come from the motorola droid so I know the procedures are a lot different. I am not a noob by any means on rooting but I am to this phone. Could you please walk me through it and point me in the direction of the files??
[Droid Incredible General] Scblacksunshine:
Man I wish I read this thread before doing the OTA manually. I upgraded the OTA last night and my phone had S-on. Everything was ok, until I tried to install the payload zip and Superuser zip from Clockwork afterward. Before I did that, I was able to boot in the phone after the OTA even with Clockwork but after applying those 2 zip files, my phone will go in a loop after the droid animation and back to the HTC screen and forever stuck in reboot. I was so freaked out but with clockwork I just flashed wipe everything and installed Virtuous 3.1. Everything is working fine now, but if you do the OTA, do not install SU and payload in Clockwork
[Droid Incredible General] RamAir02:
So you can do the OTA on a rooted phone running a custom rom?
[Droid Incredible General] Scblacksunshine:
Not sure if the 10/13 build of Virtuous 3.1 already have the OTA or not. At this point, I kind of don't really care, just glad I have my phone up and running again. Plus unless you really want Bloatware, most of the changes don't seem to be that signficiant. Here's the change log

* Updated Flash Player with security enhancements

* Visual Voice Mail Wifi improvements and removal of incorrect service messages and post-call notifications

* Better support for Yahoo IMAP e-mail

* Update to Slacker Radio app

* You can attach files larger than 5MB

* Updated Cox POP3 e-mail settings

* Updated Comcast POP3 e-mail settings

* Play YouTube videos in the YouTube app (that's new?)

* Seamlessly switch between portrait/landscape in Google Maps

* Search key and other buttons displayed in the correct order (what's the wrong order?)

* VCAST app lets you bill apps to your Verizon account
[Droid Incredible General] blcklab:
Yeah. Lots of Bloatware. I just flashed the 10/13 "almost"stock ROM over my previous ROM and everything works fine. Battery life is great with the new stock kernel. I'm not using setcpu. Quadrant speed is lower but the phone is very fast. BT connects much better although I find BT volume to be low. 3G is very stable. I had to go back into ADB and remove VCast, VVM etc but that's not too big a deal.
[Droid Incredible General] tjamscad:
ok so i have s-off and cant reroot using the unrevoked3. it hangs at the waiting for root screen. can i just apply the clockworkmod update zip and call it a day to get root again
[Droid Incredible General] thevoiceless:
I can't seem to get a clear answer on this: Do I need to have the stock recovery to successfully install this OTA? I have S-OFF and Clockworkmod, and so far I haven't figured out for sure if I should accept the OTA through the dialog, or if I can apply it through ROM Manager, or if I can apply it through Clockworkmod. Can anyone clear this up for me?
[Droid Incredible General] morph3k:
The update will go through HBOOT, you can update with clockwork and s-off. though it seems from what i've read in this thread if you do you will no longer be rooted.
[Droid Incredible General] linuxmotion:
I remeber what i did for the 2.2 update. What i did was restore the stock recovery but leave su and superuser. This makes the phone look stock without root. Then take the ota. Reflash clockworkmod. Su and superuser apk should still be there. Then use a super usr app. Im pretty sure thats what i did to reroot

Edit. This process assumes that su and superuser.apk are on the phone and not removed.

Sent from Conical. 07
[Droid Incredible General] tjamscad:
I have s-off but not Su or root. How do I reroot
[Droid Incredible General] linuxmotion:
If anybody wants the stock recovery ill find and post it.

Sent from Conical. 07
[Droid Incredible General] thevoiceless:
So then do I need to reinstall the bloat apps that it will look for? And can't I just use unrevoked to re-root?
[Droid Incredible General] caleris:
If you could that would be great. Thanks.

Cary
[Droid Incredible General] linuxmotion:
its hosted at the website in my sig. Its under android->htc phones->droid incredible->root incredible 2.2. It has both just the stock recovery and the entire stock image.

Sent from Conical. 07
[Droid Incredible General] caleris:
Thanks very much.
[Droid Incredible General] caleris:
I seem to have a problem. I was following the Bob Denny procedure to apply the OTA. Everything was going good until I got to the second step of booting into HBoot and reapplying the Clockwork recovery again. I cannot get into the Recover option in HBoot, it gets me stuck with the triangle over the phone image. I can boot normally and the phone is working but no root. In addition if I plug the usb cable into the phone, it charges but will not allow me to connect the phone as a disk drive, as well as the USB Debugging option is not there. I went to settings and tried the Connect To PC option but it FCs on me. The OTA part of this was successful (if you want to call it that). Any ideas on how to get this rooted again? Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Cary
[Droid Incredible General] magneticzero:
press Volume Up + Power I think when you see the triangle
[Droid Incredible General] caleris:
Yes, that allowed an additional menu to pop up. It has an option to apply Update.zip. But because I cannot use the USB connection to move and rename files, there is not the correct Update.zip to apply.
[Droid Incredible General] magneticzero:
Do you have a way to connect the memory card directly to the computer via usb or memory card reader? that may be your only way to get the file on there at this point :(
[Droid Incredible General] caleris:
I think that is my only option at this point is to pull the card and use a usb card reader to plug it in, move/rename files around and try to get root back. Thanks for the help.

Cary
[Droid Incredible General] caleris:
So that is what I did, pulled SD card, used a card reader to move file/rename files, re-applied clockwork (using the Bob Denny instructions for the OTA), got root back, but still do not have usb working. I will probably do some some research on USB Brick and then maybe start another thread for help on that.

Thanks,

Cary

More info: I tried to mount the SD card as a mass storage device through the Clockwork recovery menu (mounts and storage) and that worked. So I can get to my SD card from the PC, just cannot do it from outside the recovery menu (yet).
[Droid Incredible General] blackwolf77:
Has anyone been in contact with the developers of unrevoked? I am wondering if they are working on this or what the status is, I know it takes time for things like this. I was looking on the unrevoked website and it says to contact them if there are any problems but I couldn't find a link or anything to even get ahold of them.
[Droid Incredible General] linuxmotion:
I can almost gaurantee thst unrevocked is working on this. Though its just speculation i beleive they'll have it. It just takes a lil time.

Sent from Conical. 07
[Droid Incredible General] XGaSpAcHo:
i'm wondering if i should call up verizon and say i'm having some kind of problem with the replacement unit they sent me and ask them to send me a new phone.

then root it before the update prompt comes up.
[Droid Incredible General] linuxmotion:
Try this guide from bobby den

http://solo.dc3.com/dinc/

I've seen it in a few places. Seems good too.

Sent from Conical. 07
[Droid Incredible General] blackwolf77:
This guide is for if you already have s-off though............
[Droid Incredible General] tjamscad:
oops i did it again
[Droid Incredible General] phatal:
This guide worked for me. Thanks!
[Droid Incredible General] kndens:
Unrevoked, Nov. OTA and Bob Denny = works

The Bob Denny method works perfectly if you've done unrevoked and installed the OTA manually! Follow his instructions!

Thanks Bob!

Also, great props to Mike with SetCPU!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Droid Incredible General] vigordesign:
Unrevoked tweeted that they'd have a fix in the next few days
[Droid Incredible General] midnightrunner8:
Why not just flash the stock RUU from shipped-roms.com and then don't update it before rooting?
[Droid Incredible General] maxnic:
Because the new OTA checks the bootloader version, and blocks it from downgrading because it's older. No worries though, with Unrevoked team now saying they're almost ready to release a hack soon....we'll be back in black soon!
[Droid Incredible General] maxnic:
You know, what's rather funny is I don't know why I'm so desperate to root my phone again....Most of my info is on Google's cloud, the stock apps work fine for me, and everything I did on my first phone before I lost root didn't require having root in the first place!

I think my reason for having root is to say it's unlocked, I can play with all the stuff developed in these forums, and can actually restore from a nandroid backup if the need comes up.

I know, well off topic from this thread, but I felt the need to let it all out...

:o:o:o:o:o:o

:D
[Droid Incredible General] ColoradoSkier:
From their Twitter feed late last night:

Incredible people stuck w/ new OTA: we have a fix in the pipe for you; expect a release in a day or two. EVO folks: temporary fix on XDA.
[Droid Incredible General] rebelinacrowd:
Thank you. Been looking for this
[Droid Incredible General] sneaky_zekey:
there latest tweet doesn't sound promising

http://twitter.com/#!/unrevoked
[Droid Incredible General] Lsdozer:
What does it say, I dont tweet.

Lewis
[Droid Incredible General] dadsterflip:
Just says that their production should increase with in a month or so. Didn't say anything bad about incredible and the new ota rooting.not sure what the other Guy meant or got out of it.
[Droid Incredible General] dadsterflip:
Wonder hows the cracking on the new ota on unrevoked?
[Droid Incredible General] sneaky_zekey:
well,i think it means it might be a month before they find an exploit for the new OTA, obvious im just speculating on it,as i am not part of there team and no nothing,i should have my Dinc tomorrow
[Droid Incredible General] dadsterflip:
I think that was for something else.
[Droid Incredible General] maxnic:
I think so too dadsterflip...both of those posts were put up at the same exact time, so to me it looks like they're close to releasing an exploit for the Incredible, and in general production is really slow on other devices to be exploited. On the other hand, it has been two days since they posted it, so maybe it really is slow on both of those fronts :p
[Droid Incredible General] dadsterflip:
Tru that. Wish I was as good as those guys and help out lol. Well at least it doesn't suck as much as the x anyways lol. Efuse hahaha
[Droid Incredible General] sneaky_zekey:
i have 2 Dinc on there way,thought about sending one back to get the DX, seeing theres some developement going on with it.i cant go very long with an stock phone of any kind, to spoiled from the droid 1.
[Droid Incredible General] dadsterflip:
guess new ota is hard to crack
[Droid Incredible General] sneaky_zekey:
ok so i got my dinc,rooted it with unrevoked, did a backup and everything, done the manual ota as described here http://solo.dc3.com/dinc/ but i get stuck on number 13. Copy ClockWork Recovery 2.5.0.5 (PB31IMG).zip to just plain PB31IMG.ZIP on the SD root. i rename it and everything but hboot doesnt find it. any ideas.
[Droid Incredible General] ptsmith24:
Is your SD card fat32 format?

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[Droid Incredible General] sneaky_zekey:
prolly not cause its "out of box" condition, time to google how to do it. do you think thats my issue, it didnt say anything about that in guide

edit: one is 2.0 gb fat (16-bit version) and other is fat (32-bit version)
[Droid Incredible General] ptsmith24:
Mine was fat16 out of box. I'm running ubuntu on my laptop and was able to format it to fat 32 with the SD card still in the phone and the phone usb'ed to the laptop.

When I flashed a boot animation through hboot, it wouldn't work until I formatted to fat32.

Edit: the guide I used for boot animation at the time didn't mention card format, either. I suppose it is just good practice to go ahead and format if you get a new SD card since the copy is so slow (at least for me when mounting the card on the laptop through the phone).

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[Droid Incredible General] Timcredible:
Just saw tweet that said fix is in place for us dinc users and testing and packaging is all that's left. Thanks devs!
[Droid Incredible General] maxnic:
That's funny, someone just posted last night they solved a way to downgrade with S-On in another thread...users have confirmed it is working on AMOLED screens, and one who said it works on SLCD, though the original poster said it may brick on SLCD.

For anyone EXTREMELY desperate to root, here's the thread post to downgrade to stock 2.2.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9384491&postcount=199

Credit goes to nathanlewan for putting all this together
[Droid Incredible General] Tikikai:
That would be perfect timing. My AMOLED replacement for the SLCD phone just came in. It has the November OTA already and I'm itching to root and flash!
[Droid Incredible General] jonesh:
I have an SLCD model, and I managed to downgrade with the guide that was posted last night. After some trial and error (mainly, finding a version of ClockworkMod that wanted to work with my phone), I was able to flash recovery and get root just fine. After all is said and done, I have three different ROM configurations saved with ROM Manager. Flashing Unrevoked Forever worked fine, too. All is well!
[Droid Incredible General] sneaky_zekey:
thanks for info,what i did was switched out the sdcard with my droid 1 sdcard and it worked
[Droid Incredible General] ptsmith24:
Anytime. Glad it worked out. I'm on my first Droid.

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[Droid Incredible General] Vapor0312:
What version(s) did you find of that worked with he SLCD screen?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fastludeh22:
Ok mods, I know this normally isn't the place, but I think this is very important as I'm seeing more and more semi bricks, some of which are not recoverable without HTC signing keys!

So I ask you mods, please don't lock this, if anything it really needs to be a sticky!

That being said, if you are s-off, do NOT flash the signed offical PC10IMG.zip. if you don't have the correct rom on there when you do, as per the unroot thread you will get stuck.

Let me give u an example of what I've been seeing and why its happening so everyone understands. Example: you perm root/s-off your phone. You decide to do some rom playing. You end up boot looping and can't fully boot into android. So u say hey, ill reload pc10 and start over, WRONG.

What happens is s-off does no checks, sigs, version number etc. So when you load it up it starts to flash. Hboot(s-on) is first, then recovery, then radio. Thing is it has to reboot to do radio, so it reboots, at this point your s-on so it does a version check. "Main is older" then it quits before ever touching the system.img or boot.img. at this point you are locked. You have s-on, stock recovery, and can't boot android. Long story short, your screwed.

Now depending on the rom/kernel u had/have installed you may have adb access. At this point you have a small chance of recovering, which is better then some. I just spent the last 5 hours working with someone on a fix and think we got it, but the bat has died and will have to pick back up tomo. If this works or not, I also have one more idea we can try. I will update OP with any fixes we find.

*If your system was bootable when you started this, it may still boot. but you will be s-on, stock recovery, and still on whatever rom you were running. at this point you will have to hex edit to downgrade, or wpthis.ko if there is one for your kernel to get back to s-off.

*ive seen some people saying. i did it, it worked for me, but don't add any supporting info. this is bad for people new to android cause it makes them feel they will be ok. the only way this can work is if you have a version installed as old or older then the official img, or if you take hboot out of the update which then makes it no longer the official update. but my question is why are you flashing this? if you want to fully unroot, then follow the unroot guide. if you just want to go back to stock w/root, grab one of the stock w/root roms.

Long story short, do your rom flashing from recovery. Stay out of hboot unless you are following proven instructions to a T, or being walked though be a "pro". I hope this helps save some people!

* if you just read all this going DAMN, i already did that, then go here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=842495
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dyndragon:
Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.

More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fastludeh22:
When u say u saved a phone. Do u mean u stopped someone before they did it, or you mean u have a working fix. Pls post fix if u have one. I will post mine as soon as I confirm it.

Btw- I have seen 5 happen in the last 3 days. As I haven't gave up on any yet, some are worse off then others and only 2 have a possible fix in the am, well a fix I know of.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sethrd:
After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.

Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KronicAnarchy:
So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good? :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tazz9690:
I unrooted my phone, no problems.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] danieljordanmaddux:
No the instructions to unroot are correct because at the beginning you flash an alternate misc.img to change the main version number. I got stuck the other day because my phone wouldnt boot and i couldn't flash the ota because i had removed google goggles and some other system apps so i tried to downgrade using PC10IMG.zip and it cancelled during installation just as stated in the op and i was somehow able to flash the misc.img through fastboot and reflash with PC10IMG.zip
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fastludeh22:
If you did not flash the stock rom before you flashed the pc10, you got lucky. When it reboots half way though, it does a version check, and the rom version you happened to be running must have been an older base. If your phone is bootable and you flash the pc10 OUT OF ORDER it will lock you down that way, ie locked on sense. If anyone wants to go back to stock, just flash one of the stock w/root roms in recovery or via rom manager... trust me on this, there are more people screwing up there phone because of this then anything, just not posting about it. I've been up all hours of the night, helping differnt people the last few days.

No the unroot guide is ok. If you notice, the first thing it has you flash is the stock w/root rom. Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok. That is if you want to go back to non-root only though. If you just want stock with root, flash a stock with root rom via RECOVERY or ROM MANAGER.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xile6:
Im not to sure how it all works and i just got up a little bit ago .

but since s-off doesnt check the sign couldnt we unpack and repack pc10img with the hboot with s-off?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ibemad1:
Well he's edited his post now, and people have followed his instuctions and bricked their phones.

So just to confirm before I brick mine: The instructions in their current form will not brick my phone, right?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ddgarcia05:
I had s-off when running baconbits. I tried to revert back to stock but couldn't. I then flashed pauls prerooted phone rom and tried to install the stock rom back onto the phone. I seems to have removed the s-off and now displays s-on. I am permanently rooted, but fastboot still shows s-on. Was this caused because I tried to flash the pc10img.zip? Now how do i revert back to stock? I don't have a nandroid backup for the stock rom, just paul's which after a recovery still displays s-on. It doesn't loop, I just can't install anything else on there.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kcolatay:
I flashed pc10 and it turned S-ON. But when I booted it up I still had root acess, so it was like a temp root but where I could not write to the system. I took the ko file from the perm root and hex edited it to match the kernal on my phone.. boom rooted again and I was able to flash recovery and do a nand restore

I tested it out again by hbooting pc10.. and I was able to obtain s-off by changing the kernal number in the ko file
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] androidtoy09:
So let me get this straight, in order to flash pc10 safely we MUST have an existing PreRooted STOCK ROM?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] marc91988:
No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gravis86:
Exactly. If you actually follow the directions in the thread you will be fine. I've done it more than a few times and have not had any problems yet.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] marc91988:
I have also updated the instruction on the unroot guide aswell.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dthadamaja:
I was running the original Sense rom that was loaded via hboot which kept me at s-off. I was able to revert back to stock using the PC10 zip from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831398 At the time I had no clockwork recovery. Was what I unsafe?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KronicAnarchy:
Thanks for the piece of mind. I don't want to unroot just yet, I'm running pretty much the stock rom w/ ota and bacon bits anyway, so........ Still it's nice to know that I can get back to stock should I NEED to. :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fryrice8850:
Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off

Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager

Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe

Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.

After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.

So am I missing something here?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xile6:
These people didnt nand back before messing around with stuff
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KoubaK:
Yep this is all you have to do... several individuals already pointed this out in the un-root thread ...