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[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] G2reboots:
I am just curious: if I do this perm root with S-OFF, but keep the stock ROM for the time being, will that prevent potential future OTA's from T-Mobile, potential upgrades to next versions of Android?

Now, I understand that all those "updates" will also be available via these forums :rolleyes: but I'm just a tad concerned that all the custom ROM's might have bugs that would prevent everyday features...

I appreciate stuff like overclocking and tethering/hotspot hacks, but I'm more of a "set it and forget it" kinda guy - most likely I won't have time to constantly test new ROM's and report bugs, wait for fixes, etc.

Just wondering if you have any suggestions?

P.S. Although I am not VERY technical with Android I was able to follow instructions around here to reflash stock ROM, but I was in the "emergency" mode - it was "do it or die" situation :) made me pretty nervous and I hope not to have to do that constantly :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Cipitio:
I did everything in the video...and I have s-off and the superuser app every reboot...but root won't stick....and yeah..I've tried temp and perm root with visionary r12 and 13....should I start all over again?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android602:
Get r13...it gives you an option to temp root or perm root..click on temp root first than click on perm root..let see if that works
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Cipitio:
i've tried that with all versions ..even with r14 which was just released...i dont wanna flash clockworld recovery because thats making some phones stuck at the htc screen :eek:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thecarbine:
The Desire Z has received a new unrootable OTA 1.72 update.

I am going to purchase a brand new G2 from T-mo and I was wondering if this update has migrated to the G2?

In other words, are G2s rootable as of the time of this post?

I really want to root my new G2

Thanks :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
At the time of this post, yes, you can still root your G2. I imagine that at some point the G2 will receive the additional security of the 1.72 Desire Z OTA, but hopefully by that time the security will have been cracked.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
This video was great when it originally came out, but there is now a much more up-to-date, and safer method of rooting your phone and getting full radio S-OFF (as opposed to a kind of "fake" S-OFF that this video gives you).

The most up-to-date method is the gfree method described in the Wiki - http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php...cess_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29

If you already have used that video to root the phone, you should still use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, because it has more options from getting out of bad situations - see http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php...Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
Need Help - Semi - Bricked my phone

Dear All,

First of all im sorry if im posting this in the wrong area. I have read millions of pages on this forum and other and am really really confused. I have a Desire Z and it was running stock rom with the following details:

HBOOT - 0.76.2000 (PC1011000)

MICROP-0425

RADIO-26.03.02.26_M

eMMC-boot

OS 1.34.707.5

Since d rage method was not working for me initially due to ADB issues, i tried Visionary as an easy way out and now i seem to have semi-bricked my device as im always facing boot loop screen. I hadnt made any typos, everything was done as said. I have managed to get S-OFF and had enable USB Debugging before the perm root. However after this boot loop issue started, im unable to use ADB alongwith FASTBOOT as it doesnt list my device under attached devices on using ADB DEVICES command. Initially i also had a driver issue as it was detecting an android 1.0 device but i guess i solved that by using PDAnet drivers but still no success with ADB. I have never made any custom/ nandroid backups and im very confused as to what to do. I took my phone to HTC but since the 'z' is not yet launced here they said I would have to wait till the official launch (wtf).. is there any way to recover my device? i dont even mind using the old STOCK rom, i only wanted to root to enable 'trackpad wake' and 'overclocking'.. Please help me out folks
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
First off, on adb, have you tried this guide - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865685 ? That tells you where to get the necessary drivers.

I realise adb won't help you right now though.

Your hboot version sounds odd, sounds like you have the G2 eng hboot even though you have a DZ, I wonder if that's why it's boot looping ?

Can you get into hboot through starting with the phone off, holding down Volume Down, then holding Power until it switches on ? If so you may want to try flashing a new ROM from your SD card. The one at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=820410&highlight=707 sounds the closest to what you're running at the moment. This is an Asian ROM, right ? If you download that and call it "PC10IMG.zip" and place it in the top (root) folder of your SD card, then boot into hboot it should find it and ask if you want to flash it. However, beware that this will wipe all your existing settings/data etc.

If you can get into hboot then there are also some different recovery options if it is an ENG hboot, e.g. trying to flash new stuff via fastboot from your PC. Though you will need to get adb working for that (which enables fastboot too) - see the linked guide above.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
@stevieweviw: i guess i downloaded the wrong HBOOT for my DZ, probably it was the one for G2 as you said since i downloaded it from a different site altogether as the one supplied for DZ didn seem to do the trick (the site was chinese if im not mistaken but definitely mentioned it as for DZ)

Yes i can get into HBOOT, im downloading the ROM from the link u gave but im just wondering whether it would be fine to downgrade from 1.34.707.5 to 1.34.707.3??? i read somewhere that upgrading wouldnt be an issue but downgrading definitely will. Also to directly install PC10IMG.zip from root, wouldnt i need clockwork mod or something like that?? or can i directly flash it from there without any additional program? n last question, since i already have s-off, will flashing the PC10IMG.zip still keep me with root access as iv also read somewhere that flashing an official ROM with S-OFF leads to furthercomplications? im sorry if the questions sound way too noobish but im desperate. thanks for the quick reply
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ProbablyHittingOnYou:
Okay. I am Canadian and so I have the Desire Z, not the G2.

I need to root this thing so that I can run Cyanogen or some kind of vanilla Android ROM.

But I am technologically retarded, as I discovered as I got more into Android. To make a long story short, I don't even know where to start with this.

What I need to do: Run vanilla Android/Cyanogen on my Desire Z

How do I do it? I will pay $10 USD on Paypal to anyone who helps me. I need this badly.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djfoo000:
^First set up ADB correctly as shown in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865685

Then follow the xda wiki on how to root the phone. Read every single word in that wiki.

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
can someone please help me with the above questions? im almost there, just need confirmation before installing PC10IMG.zip...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
No you don't need clockwork to install a stock PC10IMG, the factory hboot will do that. It will find it and ask you if you want to flash it, recovery isn't used at all for that (though you can flash ROMs from Clockwork too).

There is an issue with flashing an older stock ROM if you only have S-OFF via the eng hboot and not radio S-OFF via gfree. But I *think* that won't apply here because it is effectively the same 1.34 version of the ROM, just a different region/carrier. But I am not 100% sure on this, so to be on the safe side I would recommend going through this procedure, which will make it safe for you for sure - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=832503
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
dear steviewevie,

i have just downloaded n extracted the 1.72.405.2 ROM from the RUU file as i dont want to take a risk of downgrading as i have s-off and will not be able to use adb like i told you earlier. i have now placed the PC10IMG.zip on the root of my sd card, now what option do i select from HBOOT?? Fastboot, Recovery, Factory Reset? i tried recovery once but it just shows a red triangle error screen.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
i guess its not detecting the PC10IMG.zip in fastboot! as it says no file or wrong file and also some file called PC10DIAG.zip! oh man will i ever get my cell to work!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
You know that if you flash that, you will not be able to get root and will lose your S-OFF, right ? Plus you won't be able to downgrade until a way to root that ROM is worked out.

If you really want to go ahead, then if you just boot into hboot and wait a few seconds it should automatically find and open the ROM file and ask if you want to flash it. Are you sure the filename is correct (PC10IMG.zip, don't confuse the capital "i" and the number one) and it's in the root of the SD card ? And it's really a ROM.zip file with various .img files inside etc ?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
yes i have opened the rom with winzip and there are files inside like system.img etc etc.. its real.. and i have checked the spelling as well but HBOOT is not detecting it for some reason, should i try with the 1.34.707.3 as recommended by you earlier??
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
I think you will be fine with that 1.34.707.3.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
ok buddy, will try that n get back asap! btw i owe u a few beers for your help! :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
no use stevie, i even renamed the file to pc10diag.zip for good measure and this is the screen i get. it doesnt even recognise PC10IMG.zip by the way.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
What does it say when it's called PC10IMG.zip ?

That's strange. It's the rom.zip file from inside the RUU, right ? And you have placed it at the top level of your SD card ? So if you do "ls /sdcard" from terminal emulator it shows "PC10IMG.zip" along with the other files ?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
may batterys low now, will recharge it now n try again in a while.. ya its the ROM.zip from the RUU all right and its placed on the root folder of the sdcard.. as for terminal emulator, its bn days since iv had access to it due to the state of my cell n boot looping! :( .. the guy here is facing the same issue it seems http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=822908&page=6
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
this is what i get while using PC10IMG.zip screenshots attached...

i have no clue why its not recognising the file from the sdcard, i even tried formatting the sdcard and only keeping PC10IMG.zip on it but still no use..
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
Well, you do seem to have the G2 hboot on your DZ, and if you have a DZ ROM then I'm not too suprised if weird things are happening.

You may be able to flash the hboot itself via fastboot.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravijohn:
you mean to say that i can get back the original HBOOT for DZ and its possible through fastboot itself?? how do i do this?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
If you have got adb setup and working, then fastboot should be setup too. What I was thinking of was the command "fastboot flash boot boot.img", where boot.img is the correct hboot. HOWEVER, I have not tried this and am not 100% sure if the "boot" partition that fastboot can flash is the actual hboot partition, or something else. So I would like someone else with more knowledge to confirm this before you try it.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lite007:
need to know if there's a way to hide apps on G2
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zbrah:
how do i root my phone using gfree and my phone is 1.72
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkPyroGuy 09:
If your not rooted download Launcher Pro from the market, if you are rooted, someone correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't he be able to use a file manager or adb to deleted the apks?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ALF2010:
Hey Guys, Newb here,

I followed the steps from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=928160&highlight=gfree+verify and things seemed to work properly. I checked by booting up and S-OFF was in the first line, so its rooted. I am just wondering if there is a way to check that sim is unlocked now? I've been trying to find a step by step guide to using gfree verify, but couldn't find one.

EDIT: I was able to get verify to work, everything is successfully rooted and unlocked!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stormbeta:
I just tried rooting my G2, following the wiki guide and everything seemed to work correctly until I rebooted my phone. My phone rebooted just fine, but when I tried to run the verify it didn't work, and after checking something else it seems like it didn't work.

I followed the instructions to the letter, the only exception being that I used

./gfree -s off

instead of

./gfree -f

because I'm already on an unlocked phone (on AT&T for awhile yet and I don't mind EDGE because I'm near a wifi 95% of the time).

I'm a bit hesitant to try it again until I can figure out why it didn't work.

Phone ROM is 1.22.531.8 if that's any help.

Edit: Seems I need to downgrade my radio firmware, but what I'm reading says that wipes the phone. Is there anyway to get a full ROM backup with temp root?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MixToMax:
Thank you for video :) .
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] romdroid.:
does this work for htc desire z (eu verison?)

with 2.2.1 froyo?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cykbryk:
I can get temproot to work with the r14 release of VISIONary, but not permroot.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legendaryxm90:
Can anyone help? Visionary hasn't worked for me not once yet. Either it completes the process and goes back to the option scren, Superuser is installed, yet Terminal denies me su, or it freezes on a black screen. -_-
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 123rolle:
I have Desire Z (Finnish unlocked version (no G2)). Can I temp root my phone if I have software version 1.72 or do I have to downgrade to 1.34. I am only interested in temp rooting not perm root. Thank you in advance.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pmcqueen:
why is this stickied now that we have gfree/rage method??? no wonder people are having so many root issues.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MicFizzle:
Help please

After following the directions on the Wiki to PermaRoot my T-Mobile G2 http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#How_To_Get_R.2FW_Access_.28Permanent_Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29 I got to the last step and it tells me that I should get an error message containing "mkdir: /system/xbin already exists", which I did, it then goes on to say that the rest of the script should run fine and to give it some time...How much time should I give it? I'm not getting any extra lines of code after that error message...I've even ignore this and tried to verify using gfree's verify software but I keep getting denied permission in the second line of code in the shell. Please help me!!!!
[Focus General] KonAitor:
I have noticed a couple of issues which seem to be limited to the focus.

First, the by default the "Anti-Shacking" setting on the camera is set to "off". and there is no way to change this for good. I have to change it every-time I start the camera.

Second, the screen seems to randomly dim and light back up. I don't know if its because i'm covering the light sensor or what. But it's annoying.

Has anyone else noticed these?

Does anyone else have others?
[Focus General] emjee87:
This was noted as an issue with the phone prior to it's release, and it's currently like that for everyone. None of the settings you change in the camera app will stay after closing it.

As for your brightness issue, it probably is a case of the sensor reacting to you blocking it. I have auto brightness turned off, but have experienced what you are describing on other phones when looking over the sensor (blocking light with my head) or when I have a finger placed over the sensor
[Focus General] KonAitor:
I found a new issue with mine.

I have an old Belkin 3.5mm to caset adapter. I can plug it into the phone and the music will come out of my stereo beautifully.

However, after removing the converter (once or twice) i loose the ability to use the mic on the phone(shazam and voice commands don't work unless I use a headset or perform a soft reset).

Anyone have an idea why this is. Does the phone not support standard 3.5mm jack equipment, like headphones and earphones?
[Focus General] greggsauce:
it works fine with me with the newer one i had, i don't know the brand, but I have noticed at times the phone seems to mute itself =\
[Focus General] emjee87:
I've had this issue myself with the aux cable in my car. Plugging it in to listen to music works fine, after unplugging, I cannot use voice commands. I haven't purposely tried making a call afterwards, but I'm fairly certain I have received calls, unplugged it, and was able to talk normally. I'll test after work, but can confirm your issue on my end at least.
[Focus General] KonAitor:
I called their support today. They ended up transferring me to the "Level 3" Support.

I told him about the camera and aux port issues. He said they were not aware of those, and even tested the camera issues on a new test unit.

Hopefully, now that they know about this, they will be able to implement a fix.

He seemed the most disturbed by the aux cable issue.
[Focus General] liquidiq:
Sounds like the aux-cable issue is related to the jack thinking there is still something plugged into the jack. This is a semi-common issue on the fruit company's phones.

The headphone/headset detection works by sensing where ground is on the plug. Sometimes that sense gets "stuck"

A simple plug and unplug of any 3.5mm jack should unstick it.

*disclaimer: I don't have a Focus yet, but will this weekend.
[Focus General] KonAitor:
I am aware of what's happening. Both I and the tech agreed that there must be some short happening. This is more common with 3.5 jacks that are designed for more complex functions. Such as volume control, and Video out.

Interestingly enough, he checked to see if there was Video out with these phones as with other Galaxy S series. But he couldn't find anything in their docs :(.
[Focus General] liquidiq:
Sure didn't sound like it from your initial post, but I'm glad you've got it covered now.
[Focus General] KonAitor:
It's still an issue. Just because it happens on other devices does not mean it is acceptable. And Ive tried alot of remedies to fixing it without resets (like plugging in/out the headset or another cable).
[Focus General] liquidiq:
Oh I totally agree with you, it's definately an issue. I think you should exchange the phone for a new one, as I believe it's a manufacturing tolerance.
[Focus General] chizzwhizz:
i too am having this issue...but after making a phone call then i can use voice commands again.
[Focus General] KonAitor:
Interesting workaround. I will try that next time it happens.
[Focus General] joeonsunset:
Speaker click issue when screen off

Here's a new one, anyone else having this? When my phone screen is off, sometimes I notice a periodic static click coming from the handset speaker (I don't think it's the back speaker.)

It's not a single click, but more of a stutter, which stops immediately when I turn the phone on and it shows the lock screen.

It stops if you unlock the phone, use it, and turn it off again. It DOES NOT stop if you turn the phone on but don't unlock it, and turn it off again.
[Focus General] mcpell:
I actually noticed this myself for the first time today. It was rather annoying. I was in the middle of things and so just did a soft reset. Hopefully it won't happen again any time soon. First time hearing/noticing this in almost a month (got phone on 11/8).

McP
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shvyue:
Hi, may be it's just my x10i, but last night when I was making phone call in the dark I noticed that the screen is NOT turned off actually by the proximity sensor.

Yes the display went black if you put your finger in front of the sensor. This prevents any mistyping on the phone which is good. However, the back light of the display is still on. By this I mean, the screen is black but it's still bright, which made me feel very strange as it will continue to drain the battery. Anyone else discovered this? Any solutions?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Utking:
hmm, mine doesnt turn off at all during calls, it will however turn off after 7-8 sec in call.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shvyue:
are you on 1.6 or 2.1?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kersey:
I've noticed the same on both UK Generic and Global Generic 2.1, the screen goes black but the backlight is still on!!!
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sapp1c:
Here is a thread covering the same issue, search is your friend. =)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=829980

Sent from my XDA App
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rapax:
Just noticed the app z4root in the Market. It claims one-click rooting and unrooting of various devices, among them the Galaxy S. Search of the Galaxy Tab boards didn't turn up anything. Is this safe and recommended for the Tab?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jyveafk:
Used it myself and it went smoothly. Far smoother than previous rooting methods I had to use on other devices.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rapax:
Thanks, I was too timid to try it without someone confirming it first.

I can now also confirm that it works fine. Went very smoothly, took about 1 minute and a reboot.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheGrammarFreak:
It seems like such an odd way to root for me. My first experience of rooting was a HTC Legend. I had to downgrade the software (one complete wipe and flashing of firmware) and then flash a rooted update. And I still don't have proper write access to the /system partition. It took about half an hour to root the Legend, this took 2 minutes, and I didn't loose any data. Awesome!
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Garret:
Noob Question (first adroid device I've had) : So, what are the benefits of rooting the tab? Removing pre-installed samsung apps?

Ah...I found a nice article..so that's the only way I can remove the stupid Vodafone booting / shutting down image?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sts_fin:
Can confirm, rooted the tab yesterday with this and after that run the OCLF, now the Tab works like a Charm.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rapax:
My favorite advantage: Running AdFree, which very effectively blocks most ads, in the browser and also inside other apps.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheGrammarFreak:
It's the only reason I rooted this thing. :D