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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] akafaze:
This is a good sense rom, but it isn't better then the stock htc sense you released. This is fast and smooth, but the battery dies really fast even though theres a battery calibration script in the rom. The stock htc sense is fast and smooth as this without overclocking, and its stable. It has one of the best battery lifes I seen for the rom. It might be just my opinion, but htc's stock sense seems perfectly optimized for the desire z and it was an excellent job you did making it work on the g2. This rom will improve with future releases, right now its not a daily rom but its a great rom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] NoFatePPC:
same here, battery is a drainer... damn

using the latest radio 03 version
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
what sort of problems? i tried both, and nothing went wrong.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
Edit: fixed
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
I unplugged my phone since 10am and its now 5:32pm and im at 58%, what did you goofs do to have such bad battery life? And im also using the stock battery.......
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crazyC:
I am using the Mugen 1800 battery and unplugged at 7.15 am and its now 11 .45 am and am at 85%. I have not made calls but have surfed the web a little, used tapatalk, checked the traffic on Googlemaps for a few minutes, had the bluetooth on in the car for part of it, installed a flight arrivals app and checked that, and checked my battery quite a bit.....

Battery life does not seem great but its not much off what I was getting before.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
In general, ive been on the xda app atleast 10 times today alone.. traffic sucks especially when it rains.

I have my emails checking every hour. 3 emails

I have several apps running in the bg and have wifi, gps, &bt on the whole time.

Did some web surfing

Zdbox is reporting 11 apps currently running in the bg. Go figure.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crazyC:
Yeah I too have the corporate exchange checking email as well as gmail and facebook and twitter plus Friendstream doing the same.

I usually figure that with background syncing etc it will go through around 3% per hour just being on my desk. If I use it now and then that increases.

Dropping down to 2g reduces that but usually I cannot be bothered.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] David Dee:
Experience with ROM after 24 Hours

This ROM has been great for me so far. My battery life actually improved approximately 10% since switching from rmk's untouched stock sense Gingerbread release. Here some other comments from my experience:

Radio: I started using this Rom with the recently released radio v26.10.04.03. Wifi worked well but once I was in my car, the bluetooth was shaky and my network signal was weak. I then switched to rmk's recommended radio for DZ users: v26.04.02.17 and both problems were solved. Works perfectly.

Launcher: I had the strangest experience. The launcher re-set and I only had one homescreen which contained a mixture of two previous screens. I did a shut all apps down and restart, and all my screens were back exactly as before. This happened once and has not repeated.

Apps: I had to uninstall and re-install a number of apps as they would force close upon opening. I think this may have had something to do with flashing this Rom with no wipe.

Outside of those very minor issues, so far, all else works very well.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Ninj:
You did not wipe data before flashing, did you?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
He said that in his post :)

Sent from a phone that is not a HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
just a fyi. the upgrade from Froyo to GB would require you to wipe then flash otherwise you will get very very strange issues that no one here can help you with. It would be in your best interest to wipe first.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] David Dee:
I flashed from the GB stock release that this rom was based on. For me, these easy to fix minor issues are well worth avoiding the headache of having to set up and restore everything.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Ninj:
The need to wipe everything is clearly stated by rmk, i think some real improvements have been made over the stock GB, which are incompatible.

Your experience prove that assertion acutally.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] NoFatePPC:
gonna try also v26.04.02.17, hopefull this wil fix the battery drain :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
well, it is a rule of thumb when you flash between different roms. after all, virtuous 2.0 and the stock release have differences and they can and will conflict. just to be on the safe side and to avoid extra issues, you should wipe and flash
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crazyC:
Yeah I was at work when I flashed this and so did the same - was gonna wipe when I got home, but as I had fixed all the minor issues that arose I have not bothered. I wanted to mess around with the sense 3.0 lockscreen and figured as I would wipe later anyway it didn't matter if it did not work out.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] David Dee:
I 100% agree with your point and would recommend same to all. I admit it, was just being lazy :D. Have a bit of rom set up fatique after multiple versions of unity & others. If any additional problems arise I will definitely wipe and re-flash.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] David Dee:
Actually, below is rmk's comment on wiping found on page 1 of this thread:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
lol lazy comes as lazy goes... same for me when I flash updates :P
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Perfect! I didn't even know about that writeup. Yeah, just make sure you put in the right frequency, and you're golden.

1209600 wake max freq works really well for me. Very speedy, but I still get good (actually great) battery life:

20 hours with moderate use, 15-16 with heavier use, 10 with pretty much constant use. This is in an area with strong network signal, of course.

Overall, this rom is pretty impressive for performance IMO.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] NoFatePPC:
Battery drain solved

Well, i solved my battery drain i was experiencing with this rom and not the previous stock build or the unity rls

info :

I always add 2 accounts in the accounts section , one for my gmail and one for my coorporate exchange 2007 mails

I always add the accounts with the "exchange active" sync wizard, even the gmail account. i dont use the google wizard , because of less options afterwards....

I enabled push mail on both accounts , after i while i got random popups that my desire couldnt sync my gmail account because of wrong password.... verry strange, this happend a few times today...

My battery dropped i think 60% in 4-5 hours... What i notices was the my device constantly synching, i notices the 2 circle arrows in the top.

I opened my accounts and settings and i saw tham my gmail account was HAMMERING... sync off, sync on , sync off , sync on ....

i disabled push mail to 15 min interval, battery drain solved...

That hammering was also the reason gmail blocked my account for a few min...

Also this problem was only with the gmail account , not the exchange account...

AT the moment i have it setup for 15 min interval

Maybe i can also tru to setup the gmail account with the google wizard instead of the exchange activesync.... , but then i cant choose push mail afterwards :)

I hope this info was usefull for some1 else having this problem
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] g4rb4g3:
I edited Rosie.apk to start LaunchKey app when the customize button is pressed: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=15830754&postcount=105
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DaygosTommyT:
I installed the kingdom lockscreen and I know it replaces the rosie.apk. is there any way to add the lockscreen without changing rosie? Seems like with kingdom rosie all my sense widgets have to reload every time i come from another screen.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lord Bodak:
Under 1.0.2 I never switched from the stock kernel, which never went above the stock 800MHz, right? I see that 2.0.0 is overclocked by default, which could be part of the reason people are seeing a decrease in battery life.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] d@rklink:
Since this is based off of the same 2.42.405.2 build that the new .03 radio is from, do we even have to match RILs if we have the new radio already installed prior to flashing this ROM?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
wrong

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lord Bodak:
Why is that wrong? Running a processor at 1GHz uses more power than running the same processor at 800MHz.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] d@rklink:
To reply to my own prior post, I don't think any RIL matching is needed between 2.0.0 and the new .03 radio. My signal is the same as it was running Unity and I must say that I love this ROM. Unity was a great ROM as well and while I do some of its pizazz, the smoothness of this ROM more than makes up for it. I think I have finally found a permanent daily driver with Virtuous Sense.

RMK, thanks so much for all the work you do!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dudemaster supreme:
Incredibly fast and smooth rom, with a few gripes

#1 Just like Unity, missing the incredible Chinese locale and IME support preloaded with virtuous 1.02

#2 No option to use trackpad wake AND unlock.

#3 Missing swype, and yes i know touch input has swype-like features now.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] monomer888:
Yeah to answer your specific question about not changing rosie, you could open up the kingdom lockscreen zip on your computer and delete the rosie.apk from the zip. This will leave your rosie untouched but you'll lose the lock screen menu, so you'd be stuck with the wallpaper sense 3 lockscreen with the default shortcuts.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DaygosTommyT:
Oh ok, thanks. I might just do that, seems like RMK tweaked the stock rosie on the rom and it feels a bit snappier than the kingdom rosie and rotating rosie with lockscreen menu.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] antinerd:
Does anyone know of a darkened Espresso-like theme available for this rom? I love this rom (it is quick, I get no FC's, and the launcher never spontaneously reloads) but the buttons in the dialer app are a bit bright for my taste.

I also liked the Doubleshot rom (and loved the color scheme), but the sense 3 made it feel a bit slower than this rom...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] popimp315:
#3 sign up for swype beta

#2 do you mean to choose whether or not to use it? Its there to use by default.

Sent from my phone broooooooooo
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lord Bodak:
For everyone's information, today's Netflix app update seems to work under Virtuous 2.0.0!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] adigo:
Does V2.0.0 have the tunnel module built-in?

Thank you!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] havocnl:
Overclocking enabled dynamic CPU speed (250Mhz -1000Mhz). This will result in longer battery life (if you are not using your phone 24/7 with screen on)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] popimp315:
Or you can use another kernel with the same script. My lowest is 122880 =)

Sent from my phone broooooooooo
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Good question, actually. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the idea is like this (roughly):

At 1 GHz max, the cpu can process intense things 25% faster than at 800 Hz. However, the cpu doesn't need even close to 25% more power than at 800 Hz.

So unless you are doing something that will keep your cpu maxed out constantly, you can see that there is actually potentially tangible gains in terms of efficiency from overclocking.

..at least up to 1.2 GHz, maybe. In my personal experience, leaving my max clock at 1.5 GHz seems to slaughter my battery. But I didn't officially test this to find out. But at 1.2 GHz I get really nice battery life and a zippy rom to boot! =)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] F033x:
A faster clock cycle means the battery has to allocate more voltage, even under dynamic scaling and other modifications.

When increasing the frequencies of your cpu, there is no gain to be had aside from performance.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dudemaster supreme:
my trackpad doesn't unlock my phone, did in 1.02
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] popimp315:
Ah, I see. I was thinking trackpad wake. My bad

Sent from my phone broooooooooo
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
He is speaking truth, for netflix works for my device too! No need for a patch now :D

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bajaj:
Hello,

I upgraded to this ROM Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 yesterday and also upgraded the radio to 12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03 yesterday. Now my battery is draining as fast as a running-cheetah.

No other issue encountered yet.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] geova87:
When this rrom first came out I installed 1.0 but my Sense restarted a lot when I went back to homescreen. Not always but a lot of times. Has this been fixed? Thanks in advance for the answer!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ml2514:
Chances are that it has. Make sure to wipe everything when you install this rom. I know the issue you're talking about, I used to have it but not anymore.

Good luck
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] geova87:
Thanks! :-) :-)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
So what you're saying is that the voltage to the cpu is higher even if the cpu is less than maxed out, say, 768 Hz?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Don't worry. Just let the battery drain to ~5% and fully charge a couple of times and I'm fairly certain you will start seeing much better battery life as the system collects better, more meaningful statistics.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lord Bodak:
Is there any way to add the CRT animation when shutting the display off? I thought it might be in UOT Kitchen but I don't see it there.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jmwils3:
i think there was a flashable zip for it posted somewhere in either this or the ota untouched rom by rmk. I think ganii was the poster, but idk
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] noodles2224:
Is there a list of apps that is ok to remove from sense??
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jmwils3:
i believe there is a script over in the desire hd themes and apps section that lists all the items it safely removes from sense roms, that list should be accurate.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] smoochiezz24:
Wowz! I missed virtuous so much. I have a Sensation right now but decided to switch back to my G2 when I heard this hit 2.0. I had unity at first and was very impressed. Loved the new pull down options. This release, is amazingly optimized. Can't tell the difference speed wise from my dual core in most situations. Its insane how much I missed even the little things that this Rom has to offer. Great work (even though I'm a lil late) and congratulations on this release.

Really proud of the overclocking daemon. That is so genius. You guys are just phenomenal. What a way to nip oc problems in the bud. Still very shocked at that ingenuity.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] F033x:
anytime you overclock or generate frequencies above your normal stock capacity you are allocating more voltage to your cpu, even with a dynamic/interactive scaling governor that keeps within conservative levels based on usage or alters screen off state to be lower than normal (let's say 100-something mHz).

its innevitable, you are going to use more power if you are allowing your processor to scale so rapidly back to that higher screen on state, or using it constantly to compensate for some of the gpu in a graphics intensive game etc. etc.

fortunately almost any kernel nowadays comes with safe levels of undervolting to counteract intense cpu based battery drain and many devs have rom specific kernels that work wonders for battery conservation (unity v3, eugene streamline).

right now, this is my dd and its a fantastic rom, I haven't even altered the kernel or oc folder like with unity and im still averaging ~19 hours a charge with average use(wifi and all)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
the best way to show appreciation is to donate a pint of beer for the devs :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Frank_071:
Updated to 2.0.0 yesterday (coming from 1.0.2). Just a few pointers for clueless minds like me :-)

* I tried to restore some system data ('the green ones') via Titanium to retain my calendar, SMS and call log -- advise: DON'T. It is not worth the hassle, as it will almost certainly introduce unexpected behaviour.

* To retain your SMS messages use a tool like SMS Backup and Restore. Call Log can be restored with Call Log Backup and Restore. Both are in the market.

* Sync your contacts and calendar with your source (Outlook, whatever - MyPhoneExplorer works perfectly). Make sure you did synchronise before the update and make the first run one directional.

* The call log is repopulated for new contacts only, so fat change that you have a list of unknown callers after restoring everything. The most efficient way to solve this: export all (phone) contacts to SD, remove all phone contacts, import them again from SD.

* I had a strange problem with Sense no longer picking up my current location. Solved it by doing the installation steps (provider, accounts, etc.) again and simply acknowledging everything that was already there.

Now about the ROM itself:

- it is pretty smooth and speedy! Great!

- I was used to using Juice Defender and am now trying the ROM without it. It took ages to charge the battery (no idea why) and after 2 hours of normal use I am down to 85%. Since this is the first run of the rom it needs a couple of full charges before we know.

- No idea what people mean with the MMS size problem. Did not apply the patch, but found an old MMS with a perfectly acceptable image (size wise). I'll see what happens.

A few "requests":

- first of all: I am happy with the ROM and I think we all should be. I have been saddened over the last couple of days to see people complain about futilities or even make incorrect assumptions. RMK and team: bravo!

- I have grown used to the 1.0.2/PowerMod battery icon (the little green/yellow/red battery with percentage in it). A mod to bring that to this version would be nice.

- Same goes for the LauncherKey app bound to the right button.

- Although the first posts mentions trackpad awake/unlock, all mine does is 'awake'....

- I have heard great things about the Sense 3.0 lockscreen - it is silly of course, but there is a bit of a disappointment when the phone more or less looks the same after the update (certainly if it has taken you hours ;-) ).

Please and once again: these are just things for a list. I am very much aware that this is only the first version of this amazing rom and good things will come eventually.

Happy Hacking!

Frank
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
I suggest you try out UOT kitchen. I use it to mod my battery status just the way I like it.

I think, with a little digging, there is a thread in this forum somewhere.. i think it's here that someone made a mod that allows you to change the"personalize" button to anything you want. I personally havne't tried it out, but take a look into it. It might be exactly what you want.

This is actually a thing with gingerbread. Trackpad wake/unlock doesn't really work in gb. the best it can do is to just wake or close.

agree. It's a nice lockscreen, but sense 3.0 is sense 3.0. You can try to use it if you want, but keep in mind that it isn't meant for sense 2.0
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Frank_071:
I will, certainly I will. Up until now I have been more of a eater than a cooker if you know what I mean. I'll check this out.

Found that, but it is all pre-GB stuff. Now probably it has more to do with the version of Rosie, but I am still cautious.

As far as I understood a different post in this thread, installing Kingdom means uninstalling Rosie. I'll wait. As said... I have nothing to complain, just minor points for the devs. If only so they know their ROM is used and valuated!

Frank
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
ahh. i did not know that the personalize button remapping is not for the gb roms... sorry. I don't have a clue then.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Frank_071:
At least the posts date back from before GB. But I might be wrong here... Had a quick look into UOT Kitchen. Seems at least the answer for the battery thing. Thanks for pointing me in that direction.

Regards,

Frank
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
no problem. dont forget though, you can customize more than just batteries. take a look into it. i customized my battery, overscroll, bootanimation, busy graphic and something else... pretty nifty.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] polygon21:
i read the change log and it is stated :

Added new battery icons, which are the same style as G-Lite. This can optionally

be reverted by creating a file on your sdcard in the virtuous_sense/ directory

called use_stock_theme.

However, i tried to do the above but it did not seem to have any effect.. just wondering if i missed out something..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
You need to reflash the rom after creating the file/directory

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Frank_071:
I didn't much like the stock battery either. The UOT kitchen excercise worked! Feel free to use the attached file (put it on your sd card, boot into recovery, choose 'install zip' and select the zip file on your sd card).

- It seems as if WiFi is not enabled after a reboot... I cannot find a setting for this anywhere and as far as a recollect this was not the case for 1.0.2.

- Changed my radio to the GB stock version (26.10.04.03_M). Will see if that "drains" the battery, until now (after 5h with the old radio) I am at 58%.

Frank
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OllieD:
Script not called propperly ?

I also tried to use this method of using the classic theme.

I created the file before i did a full wipe and install of this rom and my device still doesn't use the classic theme.

Its possible the included script is not being called properly.

Regards,

OllieD
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Well I'm not convinced by either one of our arguments since neither one of us is backing anything up with real numbers lol, but I do agree with you that statistically speaking one will end up using more power when overclocked.

At the same time, I was under the impression that the overclocking kernel we are using doesn't increase cpu voltage until after 998 MHz because 806 MHz is technically underclocking the processor the dz/g2 ships with. Confirmation anyone?

I hope this isn't too off topic for anyone. I find these kinds of discussions really interesting.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lord Bodak:
I did it and it worked fine, so the process definitely works.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] polygon21:
just wasnt aware i had to reflash..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] noodles2224:
Anyone know why contacts picture won't show up in the sms app? Just shows the gray outline of someone..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] popimp315:
Noticed that as well. Its what made me get rid of it.

Sent from my phone broooooooooo
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
That is easy. The SMS does not show the fb pics because you need to sync it with Facebook for Sense, not Facebook.

that and you'll also have higher quality contact pics than the crap that the fb app will give.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theSpam:
In regards to the point on the first post,

Titanium Backup reports that four Market apps are still installed in the system partition. They include Adobe Flash, Adobe Reader, Google Maps and Voice Search. Will you be able to move them to /data/app for the next release?