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[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustrho:
I exchanged my black MT4G with a white one during my lunch break today, and didn't have any issues doing it either. I simply explained to the person who actually sold me the MT4G (and MT3G last year!) that I would prefer to have the white versus black one, and the exchange was then completed.

After getting back to my office everything seemed great with the new phone, but then I noticed one speck of dust underneath the glass in the bottom left-hand side of the screen. Unfortunately it's not in far enough to be invisible when the screen is lit up, it's where the black line is between the plastic bezel and the screen that lights up. How in the hell does dust get in there?

I would much rather deal with this than that damn creaking sound.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Oh dude, the dust would piss me off to no end!! I would MUCH rather have the creaking, lol.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cal3thousand:
That's why I made her open it up and let me inspect the phone before accepting.

I also had issues with the bezels on the last 2 not being perfect... But I was gonna live with those issues... Now on the 3rd device, this one is perfect.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Meh. If Costco had the red one, MAAAYBEE... It's funny, ever since I decided to return the case I feel even better about this phone.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lockeskidney:
yes. i just got my new phone (sent the creaker back) but now this one has some weird seperation b/t the chrome and glass on the left side of the phone. looks like this is going back as well

im going black this time
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustrho:
I have to question HTC's QC process, not impressed by it. :(
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lockeskidney:
yea its really frustrating

so am i to believe that if you go through 3 phones they wont give you a new one after that even if there are defects?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shlongwoodian:
My fiancee thinks I'm nuts, but I can't help but think I shouldn't have to hear a creak.

White Glacier, my fiancee's black Glacier doesn't creak at all.

Just so happens to be in the lower, left hand corner - the corner my thumb hits when I hit the power/lock button with my pointer finger.

To exchange or not to exchange...

[Sent from my HTC Glacier]
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shlongwoodian:
TMO is replacing my Glacier...

I slept on it and when I woke up this morning, I decided I needed to call TMO and see if they'd exchange this white Glacier.

Let me first say that any time I call TMO (or any service provider), the first thing I say is, "cancel my service." This gets you straight to Customer Retention. They are always nice and willing to work with you.

I didn't even have to explain myself. The guy immediately offered to not only switch out out my phone for a new one, but he also shipped it "express" AND he let me hang on to my current, defective white Glacier.

So I'm glad I called. I love this device and I couldn't stand having that thing creaking on me every time I touched the power/lock button. I guess my advice is, it can't hurt to ask AND try the "cancel my service" trick and you'll usually get people that are more interested in helping (rather than just dying to get off the call so they can go back to playing Angry Birds).
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lghorn:
I've had my MT4G since the day after release (11/4) and had no signs of creaking till last week.

Now I have a horrible creaking/popping sound about 80% of the time I press the Menu button. The back button is fine, but since it seems this issue tends to be either with the Back or Menu button, perhaps it has to do with the fact that these are part of one connected physical structure.

Probably going to return mine to Costco since there's a 90 return policy (phones included), but now have to unroot, restore mySense, and back up everything I've done. Major pain, but no way I'm going to be happy with or keep a phone with such an annoyance and quality issue. What a disappointment, but I do like the phone better than any other T-Mobile offering that I'm willing to try again. Bad thing is, you may not know for a couple of weeks if a problem may develop, and if you're outside your return window then there's reason to be ticked.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floepie:
Thinking of doing the same. But, not sure you can un-root the device once you've "perma"-rooted it. Last I read, it's not possible atm.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lghorn:
Actually, there's a thread about this. You can restore the stock ROM, flash the stock recovery, and turn S=ON to revert. You can downgrade to 2.2 as well if needed, but shouldn't have to.

While this won't remove all traces of rooting (and you'll still have root capability, period), it's as good as we're gonna get, and should suffice to exchange your phone unless they do a detailed analysis. Others have exchanged after rooting, so I'm not gonna worry much about it. I just want a $500 value phone that doesn't creak!!!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jayrod1980:
I've had defects in all three so far, fourth comes tomorrow. Wish retentions had let me just buy the phone in store. All except one had a nick in the aluminum battery cover. Dust visible under the screen of one. Scratched bezel and paint defect on one. Loose ear speaker on one. Ugh. Strange, but I still love the phone overall. Never really exchanged amy phones till this year in 7 years with tmo. I'm sure I've ruined my sterling status with them. They have made at least $7k in service off of me, not counting phones, but have returned at least $3k in phones this year due to defects.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lghorn:
Gotta love Costco's return (or exchange) policy

Returned mine back to stock as much as possible (perm root remains, of course), and took it back to Costco @ lunch today.

I bought the MT4G for $149.99 the 2nd day it was out, and for the last couple of weeks it's been selling for $49.99 (new contract). Didn't expect the guy to do an exchange and credit me $100, so I expected to walk out with a G2 for $69.99 ($80 credit) and go back later today, or in a couple of days and get another MT4G. You can't exchange for the same phone and get the current price if it's lower, but you can for a different device...multiple times...so long as you're within 90 days of purchase.

Thankfully, the guy hooked me up and did a complete exchange for a new MT4G and I got $100 back. New phone for $49.99, a centered FFC, and no creaking (so far) **fingers crossed**. :)

Of course, now I have to wait on the OTA update to 2.2.1 to root; or try an alternative method if possible.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Nooo ****....? Hell, I'm'a do this. I've been with them 6 years, I shouldn't have to pay an extra $100.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shlongwoodian:
Creaky whitey

I think I read someone mentioning the white ones are creaking more than the other colors. That seems to make sense, as the white one is the only one with the smooth/less-porous feeling surface. My fiancee has the black MT4G and you can tell it's just a bit more snug.

So, I got my replacement white one yesterday. My first MT4G had creaking at the lower, left-hand corner...

It's nice to see the replacement does not exhibit this issue (it's really annoying when you go to hit the power/lock button and your thumb makes the corner creak).

I must be OCD though, 'cause the new phone has two issues - I'm not sure if I should live with them or not. This one creaks too, only in a slightly different place. This one creaks at the bottom-middle, just to the right of the mic...

This creaking is definitely far less, well, creaky; that is, it's in an area that I'm less likely to squeeze. It's still there though and it creaks and even pops, depending on where I squeeze first (giggity). That's only issue #1. Issue #2 is, there's this little spot on the silver band around the face of the phone...

I thought it was cracked at first, but upon closer inspection it looks like there was a spec of something on the trim when it was painted. You can see it when you're looking at the screen, which makes it really annoying to me.

So do I go through with a 3rd replacement? [rhetorical question] I guess I have nothing to lose. I'm either going to get a perfect one or I'm not - I've already had to imperfect ones. I'm not willing to go to one of the other colors either. The white is nice and clean to me and I like the feel of the smooth surface vs. the other ones.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lghorn:
Holy sh*t dude, are you serious? Yep, you're definitely OCD or anal retentive as hell. I can understand some concern w/#1 - any creaking would be an annoyance so long as you actually heard it through normal, everyday use, and not just cause you want to see if it's still creaking...or because you know it's there and you just HAVE to do it. That just means there's more a problem with you than the phone! :)

Now, #2 is where I think you're going a bit overboard. The chance of you getting a phone that is 100% PERFECT (and stays that way for more than a week or two) is expecting a bit much. I know 3 other people other than me who've had 2 MT4Gs and NONE of ours have been 100% flawless. From a tiny nick on the battery door cover, to the creaking problem, to a tiny flaw on the screen glass, or some part that juuuust is not quite centered perfectly. An itty, bitty, flaw on the border that probably only YOU notice is so minor, is it really worth all the effort to bring it back to stock, go through the exchange process, set up the new phone to your liking (that's assuming it's 100% perfect), etc.? Only you can answer that, but it's a bit much, IMO.

By the way, the one I returned for creaking was replaced with on that's not creaking, yet (and I say yet because the 1st one took 3 weeks to start creaking), was replaced with one that has a tiny flaw in the screen glass. While I'm not happy it's there, it doesn't detract from the phone at all and you have to really look to see it. So long as it functions fine and I don't have to hear the constant creaking when pressing the Menu button, then I'm fine w/it as is.

You can also get a case (such as the 2-piece myTouch HD silicon/hard shell in white) that will still look sleek, match the color, and you won't even SEE a tiny imperfection.

Again, all up to the individual owner...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shlongwoodian:
K, so you did replace it 'cause it creaked then? And it sounds like you got one that didn't creak?

The second one actually "pops" when you push it at the bottom - a loud pop. Pushing happens anytime you go to hit the power/lock button. Maybe you didn't read my post in its entirety? It's not perfect - it creaks more...it pops. I even have pics describing where it pops on #2. I just pointed out the cosmetic "defect" in addition to the popping, just to document it. If you search for even a second, you'll find a ton of people documenting QC issues.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lghorn:
I did read your post. You stated this one definitely creaks far less than your first, and in a different location. Looking at where you state it's coming from (right of mic), I don't get how you'd press in that place very often, especially hitting the power/unlock button. How do you unlock your phone? I'd think most people would hold in the palm of their hand and press the power button with their index finger...there would be no contact or pressure on the bottom of the phone unless you're placing your palm directly along the base. Maybe you just unlock differently.

Don't get me wrong, if mine was consistently creaking or popping I'd definitely be exchanging it, even multiple times. You should be happy with your investment...period. I know there are QC issues, I've experienced it myself, obviously.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shlongwoodian:
Oh, I'm totally happy with the phone. Hands-down, best mobile device I've ever owned. Just sucks they let some QC issues slip in. The first one's power button is actually "dying" now, so I'm definitely glad I went through with this next replacement.

Yeah, this has nothing to do with being unhappy, just getting what ya pay for...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raeef:
This is my second phone ( Black ), I replaced the first one because of a dead pixel/ dust. I've just remembered this thread now so I tested my phone, it has some creaking if I push, so if I am not testing it I will not feel it and I don't think you will push it that way with normal usage. Anyway I hate this thready :D but I am not going to exchange it, it's not a big issue like the dead pixel. I am happy with the phone so far and I think it's solid.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Has anyone else noticed the rubber bumper being slightly loose on one side? I feel weird returning it over something that nitpicky but I'm thinking I might have to for this high-end a phone...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dustrho:
Well, I'm on my third MT4G, and the home button is making a creaking noise now. I had the phone sitting on my recliner's arm rest, when it fell off and landed on a soft cushiony carpeted floor. My phone is nestled in T-Mo's flex case (white plastic shell with gray rubber sheathing), and ever since the fall of 1-2 feet that home button makes a creaking sound. After removing the case from the phone I noticed there's a hairline crack in the white plastic portion of the phone (not the case), and I'm certain this crack is the cause of the drop which then led to the new creaking sound emitting from the home button.

I'm past that 14-day exchange deal so I know I can't replace the phone, but seriously the QC process of the phone AND case is total crap. How in the hell does the case holding the phone allow it to be cracked when falling on soft carpet? This is seriously the most fragile phone I've ever owned.

Has anyone taken their phone apart in an attempt of making the creaking sounds go away?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m3ng:
I have a white one and it creaks! Uc had it for couple months. Question is, will tmobile let me exchange? In store or thru phone?

GOT ICE?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kc_sheets:
sry duplicate
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alphadog00:
Try the search next time.....

For now, see this thread - this technique works for 2.1 and 2.2 but it depends on your phone having a good EMEI.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831569

So is it locked for good? Unknown, as you didnt mention what you did to it.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s27smith:
Took me a long time. I had the same problem, it worked for me. The instructions werent perfect but I manged to get through them after sometime. Hope it works for u
[Desire HD General] Fif23:
I was wondering how would you compare the reading experience on your DHD vs Kindle/Sony/whatever E-INK Reader.

What do you use more for reading and why ?

If you already have a DHD, would you also buy an ereader on top of it or is the DHD good enough to read books daily ?
[Desire HD General] Renni3:
I have the kindle app and a 3g Kindle. I use the Kindle constantly and the kindle app infrequently. The DHD screen just doesnt compare to the Kindle for reading, the E-Ink screen is very clear and easy on the eyes - they are both excellent at doing what they are designed for but the Kindle is my top purchase of the year. Another benefit is that you never need worry about the battery with the kindle, lasts for weeks. The store is great too, last night whilst stuck in a hotel I finished the book I was reading - pressed a couple of buttons on the kindle and I had downloaded the sequel. If you read a book a week (or two) I'd use the Kindle, if you read a book a month perhaps the app would suffice.
[Desire HD General] BigMango:
I agree with the above.

The DHD is very good for reading (it could be enough if reading only occasionally), but I only use it when I don't have the Kindle with me (i.ex it allows me to continue reading my books when I am away).

The Kindle really feels like a book (I have it in the amazon lighted leader cover). Before getting it I was worried that I would be missing the feeling of reading and holding real books, but now I prefer the Kindle to the books; it's much more convenient :)
[HD2 General] Fif23:
I was wondering how would you compare the reading experience on your HD2 vs Kindle/Sony/whatever E-INK Reader.

What do you use more for reading and why ?

If you already have a HD2, would you also buy an ereader on top of it or is the HD2 good enough to read books daily ?
[HD2 General] crissg:
I've got a Nook and use it daily for a few reasons

and there the same reasons people own and e-reader in addition to a laptop.

The e-ink screen is much better for reading than an LCD. I like to go outside on my lunch break and read. In full sun the e-ink screen is actually better than paper in my opinion, and worlds better than my HD2.

The screen size. The HD2 screen is huge for a phone, but it still a little small for a book. I do have both the Kindle and Nook apps on my phone, but rarely use them. You really don't get much text on the screen at a time, and it feels like you are constantly flipping pages. The size of the Nook feels "right" to me. I know that's subjective, but that's how I'd describe it.

battery life. I'm running an Android build and I love it, but I barely make it through a workday on a charge. My Nook lasts at least a week on a charge. I usually plug it in on Friday evening when I go to bed, unplug it in the morning and it's good for another week. that's with about an hours worth of use each day, a few minutes with the wifi on.

I've got the wifi only version of the Nook, and owning the HD2 played a part in that choice too. with the newer Android builds, the built in wifi hotspot works, so if I want to browse the B&N store on the Nook I can do it through my own hotspot.

I hope that helps
[HD2 General] Fif23:
Ebook reader 1 Smartphone Nil !

I'm interested then, why did you pick the HD2 as your smartphone ?
[HD2 General] Airborne Aircrew:
I think you are comparing chalk and cheese, (apples and oranges if you will). eBook readers are designed for a single purpose hence they are larger and are optimized for displaying text. Smartphones are, effectively, phones with a small laptop built in and are designed to carry out all kinds of tasks.

If you want to read a lot but an eBook reader of your choice. If you want a

really

capable smartphone that you can read a book on buy an HD2.
[HD2 General] spikeyl:
I use microsoft reader which Ive had for several devices. I find reading fine. An obvious comment perhaps, but generally a smart phone is not normally going to compare well to a specialist set-up (ereader, games consule, mp3 player etc) but its an excellent all rounder, and saves having to carry around several devices.

(make that 1-1!)
[HD2 General] smeddy:
I've been whole-heartedly reading books on my Hd2 for a year now. I'mm aware it;s probably not great on the eyes but I've not felt any problems from it, and I find AlReader2 the most fantastic reader out there (check it out if you need, it's on this forum somewhere).

However I've been using Android exclusively for the last two weeks and I hate every book app which is on there, they're all clumsy, awkward (e.g. in regards to where they store files), and they're almost exlusively bad at just reading plain text or HTML files. Some of them are good at allowing you to download free books on the go, and I can't help but enjoy the odd page-turning animation, but on th whole they are style over substance, and no match for AlReader.

Reasons why I won't get a Kindle (altho the new one looks great)

1) I think the gadgets are still a little over-priced (although it's come down now)

2) eBooks are definitely overpriced! Anything above £3 is too much, imo

3) Can't read ...in the bath! Big no-no!!

4) DRM
[HD2 General] crissg:
great big gorgeous screen

sleek sexy design

fast processor

gobs of RAM

16GB sd card included

choice of OS

enough reasons? ;)

somebody above said something I agree with as well, about multitasker vs unitasker. My phone does a million things for me all day long and most most of them pretty well, but the best thing is it is pocketable and always with me. It's like a swiss army knife. The phillips head screwdriver in your swiss army knife will get the job done, but the job will go better if you go ahead and get a proper #3 from the tool box. Similiarly, I only need the Nook to do one thing, let me read comfortably for a long time. I read a lot so $149 was OK with me. You'll probably not be surprised to read that I also carry a zune hd 32GB in the opposite pocket from my HD2. I like to have the right tool for the job, plus I love gadgets :)
[HD2 General] ebeam:
I've been reading on various electronic devices for years now. I started on a palm m500, then a Tungsten T3, then a a Tungsten E2. I was a service engineer, so couldn't carry a lot of books with me.

The HD2 is every bit as good as the palms for reading on. Yes, it's not as good as a dedicated book reader, but it fits easily in my pocket, and I have a huge library at my disposal.

I use Freda, & really rate it.
[HD2 General] ala380:
Actually I have a Kindle and a Nook as well as the HD2. Yes the Kindle and Nook are awesome but truth be told I use my HD2 way more. I actually prefer the LCD. It, strangely, seems easier on my eyes and I can read before bed without having a light on. I always have my phone with me which makes it easier to just pick up a book. The reads are too big to carry around with me all the time. I know I am in the minority here but I wanted to throw my 2 cents in :)
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] SLOflatlander:
So i had a couple questions on widget locker. i searched for about 25 min, but couldnt fine the exact answer i was looking for.

1. Why is it that the sense ui slider is lower in widget locker than it should be? is there anyway i can get it to be in the same place it normally is?

2. How can i get incoming calls to go through the stock htc sense slider? because when the phone is locked, it just goes straight to the answer/decline buttons when receiving a call, as if the phone is already unlocked.

thanks!
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] bilbobrian:
#1 the dev said he was going to implement the ability to move sliders and resize widgets.

#2 ? I don't know

hope that helps...:)
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] corywf:
It will go to the slider if the screen is off. I use widget locker and get the sense slider if I get a call with the screen off
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] SLOflatlander:
really? on my phone it doesnt do that
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] ejdavis72:
Just use your home or back button to unlock the phone and then you don't have to worry about it. :D It gives you lot's more room on your screen for other goodies.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] -Michael_:
I dont have a issue with the lock screens when i recieve a phone call either.. maybe try going into advanced settings and enabling the "5 second rule". or i think I remember a setting in there about " show during phone call ".

As for slider location there are two, under "look and feel" "slider layout" or something like that you will see a list of sliders to choose from. by default its on "widget locker" which is enclair's slider but all the way on the bottom, if you scroll down the list you will see something like "standard android" or "enclair" my phone is dead or i'd look but play with the sliders you will find the enclair slider in the proper location :)

hope this helps
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] dscribe:
From Widgetlocker tool mode check out menu > settings > popups > hide incoming call
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] SLOflatlander:
i tried all that, i think the problem was the phone was just not going to sleep due to widget locker, so when i'd call it would act as if it was awake and not require unlocking. thanks for the help! still wish i could move the sense slider bar to where it should be though