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[EVO 4G General] 27scoob:
It's been nine months since the release , and no one has had much success .Many have promised attention to it , but it hasn't gotten nearly enough in my opinion . Your beste bet is to try YouTube to find the guy who seems to have gotten the farthest actually seen with this project . He was on here once with an alpha testing phase. I got my fingers crossed that all goes well on a full HDMI mirroring app for all roms from stock to custom as well as asop and sense based. You could also try looking at other forums for his presence and discussion on his work. But make sure to come back to deal for all the other latest on the EVOlution...
[EVO 4G General] cdszoke:
Talk about beating a dead horse.
[EVO 4G General] cloak.n.dagger:
Here you go: http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-rooting-roms-hacks/35955-evo-hdmi-out-mirroring.html
[EVO 4G General] bradleyw801:
Now enjoy this thread, before the mods close it. :)

For some reason this keeps happening to HDMI threads in XDA.
[EVO 4G General] sand1303:
It's too bad we don't have it. I busted my lcd and was afraid to take it in to the store I was wanting to have this to unroot my phone before I took it in to get fixed. Turned out they fixed it anyway but it would be neat, not that it would get used much. Just those few times that u would really want it.

Sent from my rooted HTC EVO using the xda app!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Klk450:
So i just recently finished rooting with Unrevoked 3 and i want to try out Roms now, I tried to flash Damagecontrol v3.5 but it got me stuck on the loading screen and wouldn't get past it so i just did a restore with ROM manager (thank god) and was able to get my phone back it got me really scared so can anyone suggest any good stable roms? Also did i need to have unrevoked forever install? and my last question would be if i install a ROM can i install themes on it? how does it work?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rob97ss:
I've been using Fresh 3.4. Very stable, with riptides theme... u must wipe everything before flashing a rom....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cfrock:
Don't let that experience scare you away. We're lucky to have a large number of quality roms, themes,etc. For our evos. Make sure you always make a nandroid/backup before flashing new stuff and you're golden. It's difficult to actually 'brick' your evo. Read, experiment, find what you like, and become a flashoholic like most others on these boards.

-sent via xda app on my supersonic evo
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tbgreen89:
Myns warm two point two rls3 is by far my favorite Rom. It's smooth and very stable. Check it out. I always do a full wipe... wipe system, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, and if battery is at 100% wipe battery statts.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] islandreamer:
Yes install Unrevoked Forever. Wipe and factory reset twice, wipe cache twice and also wipe dalvik cache twice then retry rom.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Klk450:
Thanks for all the replies guys, i just finished Flashing CM6.1 and i installed a theme called MattedBlue, although i can't get it to look how it is in the picture lol but im getting the hang of this, and must say im becoming a flashaholic
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkdude36:
so you got it without my help? glad to hear it.....
[Fascinate General] times_infinity:
So I've been messing around with a couple of ROMs to see which one worked best for me, and the same with kernels and what not.

But I'm having this one problem that I had once before, but it only plagued me once before, but not really as long as it is now.

I'm thinking that the radio is mucked up or something.

But I have no problem making calls or sending text messages. But i don't recieve any.

I receive email and phone calls no problem.

but text messages don't come through at all.

It seems that the texts only want to come through when i dial *228 ( not too sure if it's just that, i haven't tried calling any other numbers)

Is it possible to downgrade the radio and then reflash to the latest one?
[Fascinate General] times_infinity:
Nevermind. Apparently verizon is having outages in certain area's I guess where I live is one of the affected areas. Guess I have to just wait it out.

Mods feel free to delete this thread. Thanks.
[Android Software Development] rogershroed1991:
I'm working on a couple Android apps and haven't yet decided if I'd like to charge for some (something small like .99 or 1.99 USD), or make them free but have ads in them. I was leaning towards charging for them, but I noticed that Angry birds is a paid app on the iPhone, whereas the Android version is free and has ads. I thought this was interesting and I'm curious whether iPhone users are more interested in paid apps than Android users are. Anyone know anything about this?
[Android Software Development] patric.f:
They made Angry Birds available for free because they want everyone to play it, they are gonna make a paid-app later that removes the ads. I would gladly pay for that game even if I can get it for free.

So I actually don't think that iPhone users is more interesting in paid-apps than Android users.

Make one free app with ads and then have a paid-version that removes the adds, that way everyone can download and use it whether they are in a country with or without paid-apps. Or you can make a "premium" app that has more features than the free one. Just a couple of suggestions :)

When paid-apps wasn't available in Sweden, I got so frustrated on apps that were only available for paid-apps-countrys and had no free alternative with ads or less features and stuff.

Hope this helps.

EDIT:

And remember, if the apps are good quality they will probably sell, people don't want to pay for apps that look like crap and have no functionality. And also, have screenshots in Market because people want to be ale to check out how the apps looks and stuff before they make a purchase or download it :)
[Android Software Development] ParrotSquawk:
I used to try crippleware/nagware/adware on my PC and use a lot of it on my phone. I don't need a lot of apps so I don't buy many but I try hundreds.

Over the years, I have acquired lots of apps for my WinMo phone, many of which I still miss, INCLUDING A SIMPLE "PHONE TO OUTLOOK" APP! Make that app happen on Android and I will pay for it AND I won't mind iif you want to still collect ad revenue from it.
[Android Software Development] nxtwrld:
I bought all apps that were available as adware to remove the ads. Half my apps are paid apps. If the price is reasonable I have no problem paying for the app and supporting the developer.
[Android Software Development] dellybelly:
I myself will only pay for what I feel are essential apps or if I feel the developer really just loves the community; I don't generally mind ads, but sometimes will be so annoyed i will buy the paid version.

Apps ive paid for up to this point:

Launcher Pro

Root Explorer

Rom Manager

Better Keyboard (Before i had swype)

Widget Locker

Set CPU

Chomp SMS (Really wish I didn't as the developer seems to be very confrontational with users)

I have donated to the following:

Smooth Calendar

Anderweb

and a few others ive sent a few dollars to for being supportive and not berrating their customers for not wanting to pay.
[Android Software Development] JGeZau:
I do pay for apps if the price is reasonable ;) . I think the most I have paid for an app is ~5 bucks
[Android Software Development] Zebwen:
I've bought 3 apps for my phone so far. LauncherPro, BeautifulWidgets and SNesoid. Both Snesoid and LauncherPro have "trial" versions with limited functionality (but unlimited usage), whereas BW you just have to flat-out pay for.

I am definitely more inclined to purchase an app if I have chance to try it out first, if for no other reason than to make sure that it works correctly on my phone before I buy it, so having a locked-down version for free (and I mean, leave out some features for PRO users only), as well as maybe ads is probably a good move. that way you might get some money from ads in the free version, and a lump sum if the app is purchased.

Zeb
[Android Software Development] boiker:
I agree 100%. I've paid for about 10 apps thus far and not just to remove ads, but to support the developer's efforts.
[Android Software Development] steviee7:
Yeah ive bought a lot of things, and like they are saying make a paid version and a trail to show people how it is if they like they will pay.
[Android Software Development] Crowds:
ya...i buy too.....

my phone:p

i`ve spend ~400€ on my phone and now spend more for apps?! no...not me!

one of the things who lead me to buy an android was the "open source thing".

i won`t ever buy an app for it!

allways search for a open source app that suits me instead of buying something.

ya, ya, ya...we must pay for all hard work and bla, bla, bla...so...by an WM or an iPhone

look at the example given. Angry Birds.

another? swype...allways beta :p

just my 5cents
[Android Software Development] ratchet789:
i buy paid games and launcher pro plus as well ans a few other apps that are

payable and to all you people that say you support the xda but you have unpaid full app like pirating them you people suck. if you support something you shouldn't feel bad sending a few bucks to the dev.
[Android Software Development] KCRic:
And yet you have a 'Donate to me' button. Well no support for you I guess.

I will always pay for an app if it's something I need or want. I generally like to buy from apps made by devs not companies who charge outrageous amounts for something. Like Documents To Go, if I had the knowledge I'd make the exact same thing for free and I guarantee people would donate to support my effort instead of charging $16, $17, $25 for an app.

So far I've bought:

SetCPU (even though you can get it for free in the thread here)

Rom Manager

'File Copy'

SU File Explorer

Mini Info

Some LWP's

Some games

and about 7 or so other apps
[Android Software Development] Doward:
For me it's simple - I will spend my money on a good, quality app. I've got quite a few apps, and I love the fact that Google's market gives you the 24 hour trial period - so how can you go wrong?
[Android Software Development] ante0:
I've paid for a lot of apps. About 90% of them I don't even use anymore.

I wouldn't charge too much for it. That would only lead to people paying, copying the apk, then refunding... Sadly.
[Android Software Development] JGeZau:
Wow, I had never thought of that before :rolleyes:
[Android Software Development] ante0:
Good thing though is that they don't get updates...

More and more apps use license check now though, forcing you to redownload the app (Which I have noticed everytime I restore apps using Titanium backup). Which in that case wouldn't be possible since you refunded it :P

Google should make some license check too, everytime you open up the market it should check for apps that need licenses (i.e. paid apps), if none is found it could force you to uninstall it and not let you use the market until you have done so.
[Android Software Development] generalamerica:
I think most people on this site are more willing to pay for apps then if you looked at some other forums because this is a forum for developers and they know the hard work that goes into these products. I buy a lot of apps, most under $3.00, If I don't find an app I want then I buy a soda there's not much of a price difference and people buy sodas millions of times a day so I don't see why so many people are so hesitant to buy apps. I think there needs to be an Android gift card like an iTunes card but that's for a different thread.
[Android Software Development] JGeZau:
Yeah, I imagined they wouldn't get updates, but I wouldn't do it, I support Android development
[Android Software Development] gprimr1:
I have paid for three applications, because they were the single best applications that delivered the most functionality.
[Android Software Development] whobeit:
This post has got me wondering, what sort of money would you expect to get from adverts and if there was an ad blocker installed on the phone would you still get paid? In other words would you get paid for having the advert built in or just on a paid per click basis?
[Android Software Development] spock2097:
iPhone has limited software piracy and the user base has more money to spend or is more likely to spend money (in average) so it makes sense to charge for it.

The Android user base is less likely to pay and more likely to steal. Therefore it makes a lot of sense to offer Angry Birds as paid app on one platform and have an ad version for the other. Furthermore the Google Market is not available in as many countries.

-> Ergo: paid for iphone and ads for android

I would still try to make money with a paid-ad-free ap. Though this increases the likeliness of software piracy.

Also: Angry Birds is not a good example for paid/ad app. If you have only a limited, specialized user base then paid-app might make more sense. Imagine the Root Explorer/Titanium Backup apps. These would not be accepted as add-containing versions (user base also uses adblockers) but since the community appreciates the work, they are also more likely to pay.

Also Ads only make sense if the user spends a lot of time "in" the application...system apps are not good for ads while games are.

So there are a lot of things to consider wether you are going for that approach or another...
[Android Software Development] jgittins:
I have noticed from my admob stats that French and German users are much more likely to click on ads than American or British users. So I translated my app to German, French and Spanish then listed it on their language specific markets and my ad revenue doubled over night.
[Android Software Development] CitizenLee:
I don't mind paying for apps, but I do like to try a free / ad-supported version 1st if possible. If not at least you can uninstall for a refund within 24hrs.

This is what I have at the moment:

Titanium Backup

SetCPU

PicSay Pro

BetterCut

Root Tools

Root Explorer

Tasker

BeautifulWidgets

Abduction!

Raging Thunder

In the 15 or so months I've had my phone I'd say there's another 9 or 10 more paid apps I've since uninstalled, due to either lack of use or finding a better alternative.
[Android Software Development] bchez:
I totally buy apps. :o And its mostly to support developers, and its nice to get the apps removed.
[Android Software Development] galaxys:
I'll buy if the app is worth it compared to it's free version...
[Android Software Development] rpmccormick:
I do not pay for software, media, or anything else that can be saved to any type of disk, period. I am a software developer and everything I have ever made is free and open-source (even if someone paid me to make it). Information wants to be free.

I use AdFree for Android and ABP for FireFox, so nobody is making any money off me that way either (Who ever clicks ads in the first place? They are to blame!)

"I don't want to give money to them, I think it is so wrong, it is against my morals and my ethics" -Steal This Film, Part 1 (2006) [movie about thepiratebay.com]
[Android Software Development] DirtySoul:
I have never paid for the apps, there are many sites that offer them for free... I guess this is common for all the ex-Soviet countries, and the problem is not that we don't have money, but because here not many people use credit cards and other means of electronic payment. We mostly use cash. And when it comes to paying for an app, it turns out to be more easy to download it from one of the pirate sites, and these sites have all the paid apps that are worth downloading...
[Android Software Development] rogershroed1991:
What kind of click through rates are you getting with Admob? It seems like it's basically Adsense for phones, and everyone knows Adsense sucks and you have to have millions of daily users to make real money. Just wondering if the Admob ads perform better or if the click throughs are still really low?
[Android Software Development] dehaani:
Sorry rpimps [please delete]
[Android Software Development] jgittins:
I'm not making any real money either, just a few dollars a day from 2 fairly simple apps with about 5k total downloads each. According to Admob I'm getting around $1 for every 1000 ads I show my users.

If I got rid of the ads and made my apps cost $1 each I would need 3-4 purchases per day (since google takes 30%) to make the same money and I'm not sure I would get those numbers.
[Android Software Development] jgittins:
I think it's the same for me. Really I don't see why google cant charge the banks in their local currency and do the conversion themselves.
[Android Software Development] iynfynity:
Well for me i really want to buy some applications but i can't cause i still don't have an access to pay these things. i just wish there's a card for android that can be bought from stores then you can use that to pay for applications for android.
[Android Software Development] rogershroed1991:
Would you mind switching them to $1 or $2 paid apps for a few days, to see what happens? I'd be interested to know if you make more/less/the same.

I have one app in the market now at $1.99 that gets about 10-15 downloads a day. I haven't promoted it or anything since I'm doing an iPhone version as well and want to promote them at the same time, so I'm waiting for that to get approved.
[Android Software Development] slinky1914:
I never thought I would buy any apps but I have bought like 7 or 8. I like paying for apps that get rid of ads mainly. I would pay for a xda app if the ads would go away.
[Android Software Development] Gahh Its Lee:
I actually have the same problem. I'd love to buy apps but I don't have a card to do so right now so I'm stuck without. Android cards would be awesome.
[Android Software Development] UpSpin:
I also don't have a credit card, and doubt that I will get one in the next few years. Just don't need it, want it, use it.

I could buy apps via my parents credit card, but well, there wasn't a special app which was good enough to pay for it, yet.

Most apps are simple things which are nice to have, but not a must. If the 'developers' want to get paid for their work, then include some ads, that's fine, as long as the product remains usable with the ads.

Other serious apps, like DocumentsToGo, are great, but I don't buy it, because I have no use for it. It's just too limited yet.

MyPhoneExplorer is an app/software worth some money, which I often use and need, so there I strongly consider paying for it, or donating in this case.

However, apps like ADW.Launcher, LauncherPro, Rootexplorer, ... are all great, but if I have to pay for them, then I don't use them, because they are no necessity for me, and other free alternatives are available, too.

So yes, I think that's different to iPhone users, who pay for every crap app.

I only buy software I really need and which I use daily to make money or to study. No app fits those requirements yet, which is sad, because this also implies that most apps are useless/time wasters/fun apps, but that is my opinion at the moment.
[Android Software Development] hachoo:
I only buy the apps which really help me out/use everyday. So far Handscent SMS and SetCPU as I'm still playing around with combinations of apps at the moment.
[Android Software Development] rogershroed1991:
I meant this question more in terms of developers on here, do you see better success with your apps when you charge for them or when you put ads in them? I wasn't really asking what do individual users here prefer, because xda is such a niche community that it doesn't really represent the general userbase.

By the way, for everyone saying "i download my apps illegally for free", are you seriously gonna admit that you do that ON A SITE FULL OF APP DEVELOPERS? If I were a mod, I'd start banning people for that.
[Android Software Development] jdh10475:
+1

If no one pays for apps the production will decrease.
[Android Software Development] androidgist:
It's a pity not to pay for the apps you use, as specially when they're so damn cheap. I remember how it was 3-4 years ago, when paid apps for Windows Mobile used to cost about 10-30$ (sometimes even more). Today, the prices for the paid Android apps are at about 1 to 5$ and if you ask me, that's not much money.
[Android Software Development] Michealtbh:
I would happily pay for apps but google doesn't accept my maestro card, so its downloads for now. When the market has paypal integration I'll start paying
[Android Software Development] dvdivx:
Every app I've paid for are kid apps for my kids to play with like "The Rescue of Ginger" or "Save the Day". Just depends on what your needs are. If someone came out with GemRB for Android to play Baldur's Gate or a good aircrack program I'd pay for those also.
[Android Software Development] Mr_JMM:
+1 for banning these leeches.

I'm more than happy to pay for apps. least I can do for all the work gone into them. Prefer if there's a trial version though but have purchased without.

As a user I'm happy to pay for apps even if it's only to remove ads. Higher priced apps ($5+) I think should offer something extra functionality wise.

Sprite Backup

FireWallet

SetCPU

Aldiko

MyBackup Pro

Twidroid Pro
[Android Software Development] Anderdroid:
This exact mindset goes hand in hand with your grammar.
[Android Software Development] jgittins:
It would be an interesting experiment, but I wouldn't want to upset my current users. Plus my apps are not really polished enough for me to charge for them. I did get a nice spike in my admob revenue when engadget posted about my live wallpaper, but it seems to be dying down now.
[Android Software Development] gammexane:
I pay all the appl I use, even I have donated to several open source projects like ADW Launcher just because I like them.

Everytime you use a cracked appl god kills a developer. :p
[Android Software Development] Anderdroid:
Honestly there's some boundaries when it comes to pirating. If it's a small developer or a really good product that you enjoy, shame on you.

However if it's something like Need For Speed Shift that you can't possibly even buy unless you're on Verizon, then I don't see the problem in pirating that.

Or if you're under 18, don't have a credit card, etc. Then pirate to your hearts content.
[Android Software Development] iynfynity:
That's my situation. I really want to buy some applications and games for android. I just wish there's an Android card which works like the ones in itunes.
[Android Software Development] rogershroed1991:
Even if it's an app developed by a large company, I think the same ethics apply. Just because the guy who developed it is already rich doesn't mean you have the right to steal from him any more than you have the right to steal from someone else.

I do agree that if it's locked to a specific carrier or something like that, then pirating is perfectly fine. If you don't have a credit card, you really should have one, but if not then it's usually fine too because you wouldn't have bought it anyway and the developer isn't losing any money from you.
[Android Software Development] avatar_43:
As many have said I've got no issues paying for an app if I can use it before I make my mind up, I'll confess I did download BW but I did buy it before I just wanted an older version at the time. I've gotta large percentage of apps I've paid for as for ad supported it doesn't bother me in slightest
[Android Software Development] mhrc4:
My $.02 on this.

Most apps in the marketplace are under $4. Some range upwards of $10 and higher. I get that. I look at it this way, if it were a buddy of mine that were developing an app, or someone I know who spent a lot of time developing an app, why am I going to be stingy to the point where I would not toss him $1-2 for his efforts?

In today's world where buying a cup of coffee at a large coffee house is $2-3 and a beer at a bar is $2-5, i figure that is the least I can do to support a developer in his quest to build a business and contribute to the community.

The last thing I want to see is a developer or company be turned away from writing apps for the platform because they believe it is not profitable.