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[Droid 2 General] Kazolar:
bmtbandit,

drop me an email -- my username on google mail.

I have an at&t sim card. I will be unlocking mine -- but I will compare the fields before and after unlock.

After trying out the & operation with a about a dozen foreign country codes -- this sure looks like what they're doing. I hope to have the phone by tomorrow to see what I can see.
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
I can do it if you would like and you can use team viewer to control my computer and do what you need to do. Let me know.
[Droid 2 General] bmtbandit:
Ok, Unlocked reread the fields and they did not change :(
[Droid 2 General] jbinbi:
Thanks. I want to be able to take it to say Europe or UK and put a local sim, from orange etc. , not a US TMo or ATT sim. Will that work?
[Droid 2 General] swangotp:
Yes, as long as you did get the unlock code from verizon.
[Droid 2 General] jy3ng4:
I just have to say thanks to Kazolar/swangotp/bmtbandit/anyone else working on this...you guys are awesome
[Droid 2 General] Conan Kudo:
Oh my goodness. The phone supports DCS? Then that means it could run on T-Mobile's 3G network with some jiggery-pokery!

If you aren't already aware, T-Mobile uses the AWS band for their 3G network.

AWS uses the lower half of the DCS and IMT bands (1800 and 2100 respectively). This is why it is usually referred to as the 1700/2100 band.

If DCS is no longer suppressed and the USA SIM block is removed, then this phone would be perfect for both AT&T and T-Mobile USA customers, once someone figures out how to make the phone radio transmit and receive the AWS band properly.
[Droid 2 General] silver6054:
I'm confused (but as I have almost no knowledge in this area that's not too surprising!). I wouldn't think that unlocking for the SIM card would have any impact on anything in the radios.

On my old dual GSM band Z6c, which obviously received no GSM signal in the US, putting a foreign SIM in the phone produced the prompt for a subsidy code, so it is totally independent of radio connection.

Of course, if you are doing something else, please ignore!
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
I'll be getting the droid 2 global in a week.. I got a T-Mobile sim(current customer) and so does my family. I have 2 working foreign sim cards too(DIGICEL JAMAICA & C&W JA).

I will be a new Verizon customer so I know the "account in good standing for 6 months" won't apply to me as yet. My question is this, is there another way to get the unlock code (maybe buy on ebay)?
[Droid 2 General] jy3ng4:
Yeah, there's someone offering unlock codes for the D2G on eBay for $50 at the moment. I'm sure it will come down in price soon though.
[Droid 2 General] zevrosenthal:
I have a DROID Pro that I have SIM unlocked from VZW (paid full price for phone so i was able to get unlock code) and am also AT&T subscriber. Happy to use my DROID Pro as a 'test bed' for any ideas you want to test on unlocking the radio to use AT&T frequencies in the USA. I really like the phone and would like it to be my full-time phone but my full-time carrier is AT&T (though i have phones on both networks)
[Droid 2 General] willzzz88:
Guys the lock is a MCC (Mobile Country Code) 310 lock. 310 is the official numerical code for the USA. Basically VZW has in the radio firmware prevented the phone from connecting to any USA GSM network. Any other country other than the USA will work fine once the unlock code is put in. This is why it works in Canada on 850/1900 (different country, same bands/tech as US).
[Droid 2 General] Almighty1:
The Z6C and even the Blackberry Storm1/Storm2 does not have the 850/1900 bands in the radio so just like any GSM phone, there is the SIM lock but even if you unlock it, you can't use a frequency that the phone can't handle. In this case, the phone has the bands except the firmware blocked the carrier ID for AT&T/T-Mobile. Has anyone tested it in any of the GSM networks in Canada yet that use 850 and/or 1900 to see if it works?
[Droid 2 General] milestonedude2:
yes it has been tested and proved to work on the 3G network for telus.
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
Yep very expensive for just a code.. thanks though!
[Droid 2 General] zevrosenthal:
Hi Ramon

I don't believe having the code would solve your problem. It would allow you to use a non-Verizon SIM card and make calls/access data just about anywhere in the world though, even if the phone is subsidy unlocks (which my droid pro is) without a way to bypass Verizon's "lock" of the USA 3G HSPDA bands in the phones modem that would allow us to connect to the US ATT/TMO data network, you've only solved 1/2 the problem and still can't really use the phone in the US if you want data.
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
Thanks for the info. I thought you couldn't use the phone at all on US gsm networks, as in make and send calls? not just data.
[Droid 2 General] qipengart:
All we need to do is to flash a revised radio without the carrier lock and then this wouldn't be a problem.
[Droid 2 General] Poryhack:
I don't mean to be a **** but it seems like you're stating the obvious here. What's not obvious is the process of revising the radio.
[Droid 2 General] RipperSan:
halping a n00b

Halp!

I am a n00b at Android (I've had BlackBerry for a while now) but I really waqnt to make the jump and learn from the platform. However, for that I need a phone and I think the Droid 2 Globla is the one for me since I live in Colombia and the variety of Android phone here is pathetic.

However, before I jump in and spend 600 dollars on a phone, I need to be 100% sure it will work in my country.

From what I read in this thread, it should work since I am not in the States. However, I have no idea how to get it unlocked and working for a different network.

Could someone please help me out with my doubts? Will it work? How do I unlock? Is it risky?

Thanks so much.
[Droid 2 General] silver6054:
The GSM bands should work, but you need to check what 3G frequency is used in Columbia, as the D2 Global doesn't support all (e.g. the T-Mobile one in the US).

As for unlocking, apparently there are links on ebay that charge $50, but I would also check with the multiple motorola unlock places around the web. The "good" ones will of course refund any money if they are unable to provide a code to unlock the phone. That just leaves you to find the good ones!

All that said, is this really the best-value phone for pure GSM use? You are paying a premium for the dual-mode feature which you are not going to use. I would look around (e.g. carphonewarehouse in the UK) to see what is available in quad-band GSM making sure you get the right 3G bands.
[Droid 2 General] Poryhack:
If you're planning to buy it at the full ~$600 price then all you have to do to unlock it is call Verizon and ask. It's not risky and there's no reason it shouldn't work outside the US.
[Droid 2 General] RipperSan:
I am open to any suggestions by you guys about which phone to get. I just really would like a QWERTY keyboard and I read that the Droid 2 Global has a decent one. Not to mention that it's got the whole mobile Wi-Fi hotspot feature and a 1.2 GHz processor.

Which alternatives would you recommend?

Thanks so much for the help. I am trying to find out right now the kidn of GMS we have down here.
[Droid 2 General] silver6054:
Looking around, this phone might be the best choice, but it depends what you need. It certainly has a fast processor. If you don't need a keyboard, but want a bigger screen, the HTC Desire HD looks good with a 4.3 in screen (but again check 3G is right for your country), e.g. http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=12087&sd=specs (nearly $800)

Cheaper, with a keyboard, the HTC Desire Z, e.g. http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=12073&sd=specs ($635)

In both cases, they have less internal memory than the Droid 2 Global, so maybe the full retail price on that really is a bargain!
[Droid 2 General] RipperSan:
O, I did a little more research and found this thread:

.droidforums.net/forum/droid-2-tech-issues/97205-vzw-has-locked-850-1900-mhz-gsm-umts-bands-d2-global-can-fixed.html

Apparently, the UMTS 850 band is locked, which is the 3G network that works down here with my carrier. However, they say it's like that for the US only, which I don't understand well so I was wondering if someone can confirm. If they lock the UMTS 850, it's probably regardless of the country you are in, or am I mistaken?

Thanks so much for all your help, guys.
[Droid 2 General] Poryhack:
You are mistaken, as a matter of fact that's what this whole thread is about. If you buy at full price the only thing you CAN'T do is use the phone with GSM providers in the US.

It's perfectly logical when you think about it; this is marketed as a global phone. Verizon isn't going to cripple its main selling point.
[Droid 2 General] RipperSan:
I'm not really sure how to unlock it in the first place, I have never done anything like this. I've read that you need a code or something of the sorts, but like I said, I have no idea how that works, aside from the fact that apparently you have to get the code from Verizon.

So if I just buy the phone full retail from Verizon they will just give me the unlock code no problem? I've never had a contract with them or anything.

Thanks.
[Droid 2 General] jbinbi:
the other phone i am waiting from vzw is the htc merge, which has a tp2 like keyboard. supposedly this is coming by xmas. however it is rumored to have bind, not google for maps and search. i have the original droid now,andwant a world phone, and am waiting for the merge to compare to droid global.
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
Anyone having lower than average signal(or signal moving around alot) with this phone on Verizon network compared to other phones you own on the same network in the same area? :o

plz answer..thanks!
[Droid 2 General] zevrosenthal:
These are the Droid Pro Radio Specs from the Motorola site:

WAN: VOICE BANDS	CDMA 800/1900,

GSM 850/900/1800/1900,

W-CDMA 850/1900/2100

all it's missing is the 900 spectrum 3G (which is a lot of Europe/Asia) so, if you have 850 band where you are, you'll have no problems. The only place the 850 bands don't work is in the USA. I bought mine full price from Verizon and all it took was a phone call to Verizon and they gave me the unlock code without any problems. I know others sell unlock codes on the web but have no idea who is legit or not.
[Droid 2 General] silver6054:
900 3G is a lot of Europe/Asia? According to

http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html

900 3G seems to be only parts of Australia and New Zealand. Most of Europe is 2100 3G.

Is that incorrect?
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
that info seems outdated because i know for a fact Jamaica has 3G too. Oh well :D
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
ANyone? .
[Droid 2 General] willzzz88:
I may have a solution. Apparently in relation to the Milestone and Milestone 2 based on the same architecture its being controlled by files in the firmware. Can someone upload the following files: (Or PM me with a link, I need it from a rooted device):

All the files from:

/system/etc/motorola/bp_nvm_default/

and the following file:

/system/build.prop

I may have a solution very soon...
[Droid 2 General] bmtbandit:
There is no bp_nvm_defualt folder under system/etc/motorola.

Can you tell me what in there I may be looking for?
[Droid 2 General] qipengart:
Maybe if we hacked the AT&T or T-Mobile US SIM cards with a proxy carrier code that might be the key here? :)
[Droid 2 General] jbinbi:
Similiar info going on at hofo , someone claiming to have the fix, pls see post #75 page 5

(guess I can't paste a link, hopefully you can put the right stuff in front put howardforums dot com infront of the link beflow

/showthread.php/1678591-Motorola-DROID-2-Global-Release-Thread/page5
[Droid 2 General] Poryhack:
This guy has been bragging all over the Droid Pro and the Droid 2 Global threads but he hasn't posted a shred of evidence or how-to. That combined with the quality and content of his other posts strongly suggests that he's just some moron looking for attention. Ignore and move on.

If there's gonna be a "fix" for this, my bet is that it will go public here on XDA.
[Droid 2 General] zevrosenthal:
Root files

I've rooted my pro but not sure how to get you the files you are looking for? If you direct me, I'm happy to pull them down and send them to you.
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
development is slow on this..
[Droid 2 General] zevrosenthal:
I downloaded root explorer and cannot find the folder listed below either:

There is no bp_nvm_defualt folder under system/etc/motorola.

Anything else we can do to help?
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
looks like they've given up.. :(.. this is not the XDA spirit I know of..
[Droid 2 General] zevrosenthal:
I hope not! Really like the form factor and over the last few days since I've got it, I'm enjoying both Android and the move from the iphone though I would much prefer to be on the AT&T network. I travel alot internationally and prefer my home network to be GSM based as well.
[Droid 2 General] xryousukex:
we just need to be patient, i'm sure there will be a work around soon enough. just like how the windows one was worked around...
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
Hmm then your better off with the iPhone 4 or captivate in that case. What's wrong with Verizon coverage in your area? technically you would be getting the best of both worlds since the phone is not locked outside the US.
[Droid 2 General] leobg:
Maybe he wants a qwerty physical keyboard... as I do for example
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
good point..I'm just curious why we haven't herd from any devs yet on the status of this..not to sound picky ..and what the hell is taking wirefly so long to offer this phone, I wanted a black friday deal :D
[Droid 2 General] emarsha:
I should have waited to get this phone (the D2Global) but i was darn excited i purchased it on the release day assuming it would work on att`s network, surprise surprise. I got so darn antsy, i got a tmo vibrant and unlocked it and surprisingly enough picks up 3G on att!

I want to use the global because i want a device with a qwerty keypad as well. Because all tap-typing, i get tons of mistakes!

Im hoping my shameless offer to donate beer money for the dev to find us a solution catches their attention :D
[Droid 2 General] willzzz88:
Sorry I've just been really busy with work and what-not lately.

Someone give me a ls of

/system/etc/motorola

and ALL the files of that folder. Thanks.
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
I just herd wirefly getting it on Monday ;) ..I had to basically annoyed had to twitter, on the phone(for some reason the reps are slow and dumb:D) and facebook...

anyways your so right, I've been with a touch screen phones for 6 months now(N1,Vibrant) and I realize I'm making more mistakes than ever. So it would be good to switch it up finally! I saw the D2G getting some great benchmarks. So not all hope is lost for me coming from the Vibrant.

The Vibrant 3G on AT&T is 1900mhz when unlock unless you got a custom rom on their and modify it to work on 850mhz. ;)
[Droid 2 General] willzzz88:
Also I'm curious about the Moto firmware 310 and 311 USA MCC country code restriction. Someone with the device do the following for me:

1. Have a foreign SIM card provisioned with international roaming with USA support.

2. Insert that SIM into the Droid2Global running on GSM/WCDMA mode. See if it connects for US international roaming (If you get 'AT&T' or 'T-Mobile' in the top screen for network MCC common name.)

3. If it does try a test call (I realize this may be expensive, all I need to know is if the call goes through, if you have another phone and it rings that's enough because the international roaming VLR on AT&T/T-Mobile was activated on their core network.)

4. If it does try a data call (similar to above, all you need to do is a low bandwidth website like m.google.com, if the website loads its successful.)

5. Report results here.

Also APN needs to be set depending on the US-carrier the international SIM's international roaming carrier's agreement with. Should be AT&T or T-Mobile (insert their appropriate APN on-to your phone.)

I need to figure out if the MCC lock is simply a radio firmware search string that if it sees a network with 310 or 311 (USA-country-code for GSM/WCDMA/HSPA) it simply stops connecting and resets (my theory so far) or is the lock a SIM card based IMSI# based lock (it allows foreign SIM cards but not USA-carrier-issued SIM cards.) The IMSI# has the first six digits identifying the operator issuing that card. I need the phone with a SIM that doesn't have a IMSI with 310 or 311 digits in the sequence). (Any SIM issued by an operator OUTSIDE of the USA.)
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
I already read that it doesn't matter the sim card. Doesn't work in the US period. Whether you have a home sim or foreign sim. So there you go..:o
[Droid 2 General] silver6054:
Right. With a UK SIM that works in other phones, I do get AT&T or T-Mobile on the home screen, but I also get the No Service icon, so steps 3 and 4 don't work.
[Droid 2 General] emarsha:
Im keeping both devices at the moment, I'm loving the keypad on the D2G and can't bring myself to craigslist it. Im really hoping for the dev in the white and shining armor to save me :p

I'm actually using the rom you have in your signature. Its pretty awesome, very

stable. I get 3G when I have the network set to GSM/WCDMA. Its strange I know, but it picks up 3G on Att. I prefer to stay on 2G most of the time, 3G is spotty in my area.
[Droid 2 General] hgrimberg:
Do you know how much will be the price on wirefly? I mean, just the phone without any Verizon plan.
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
Sorry for my typo's guys. I'm on such a quick pace this week that I didn't realize :D. ..

Well like I said before, it's operating on 1900mhz for AT&T 3G. So expect it to be spotty. I herd/saw it supported 850mhz for AT&T 3G but you got to flash a kernel then enable it ..I think the kernel is by eugene :D.

You can always keep the D2G until the last week of your 30days you know then return it. Give the XDA devs a few weeks ..:o

I'm guessing you don't have Verizon service then?

Nope but they have the original droid 2 listed for free on contract and $540 without. So i'm guessing the global will be the same. I'm trying so hard not to hit that order button on the D2 :D ..the wait is killing me!!

http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=21427_b91dd4f42c13445a9975aaef70b532fd

enter zip code..and select Replacement Device: No Contract Changes
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
someone selling the droid 2 global on ebay right now for 465 if anyone interested ..;) .I'd buy it but I don't have Verizon service yet.
[Droid 2 General] emarsha:
Nope, I refuse to switch to Verizon. Im not one of those my carrier is better than your carrier kind of person, I've been with Cingular, now AT&T since forever and have a great service plan and I've got a corporate discount. They just lack a good selection of Android devices.

Have you the link for the kernel? I'd really like to give it a go! Thanks!
[Droid 2 General] hgrimberg:
But why would you buy it on wirefly if you can get it directly from Verizon on prepaid without contract for a total of $535??? Unless you tell me wirefly sells them unlocked wchich is not the case. Same for ebay. Ebay is for foreigners that need the phones to be shipped outside the US whereas if you buy it from Verizon directly this is not possible. I suppose it is the same for wirefly?

Thank you,
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
Well no problem. I just wanna try out the Verizon network for myself. ;)

The kernel I used was from here but I believe they updated it:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=838020

As for the bands,

I saw he posted the instructions here; "How to enable 850 band":

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=820414

good luck.

Well I don't want to buy it at full price. I want it on contract and wirefly offers the best on contract prices(free most times). This would be my first time on Verizon though, so if something goes wrong I might buy it on prepaid as you suggested after selling my Vibrant. Also the ebay retail price is cheaper..why not save some cash too? :D
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
Any progress on getting this phone unlock?? where are all the devs :eek:
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
Just order my D2G on wirefly for $99 ..For some reason I'm not as excited as I once was to get it. Mainly because these threads seem, abandon.:(
[Droid 2 General] emarsha:
Ah, but at least you have service so you can use it. Me, still a pretty paperweight my D2 Global has become. Im almost ready to craigslist it. Im still hoping someone is out there working on it :(
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
:( I feel your pain. Having bought it at full price only to find out it will only work outside the US. I understand the reason Verizon did it I just wish they had warn or alert you about it. The Motorola/Verizon lock downs continues..

I really hope in the next update they unlock the phone some more though. Not one ROM is available for the D2G..It's a pity. Oh well at least motorola is listening to it's customers and implementing fixes in updates(check the DROID forums over their site).

As for the unlock issue, your right. It doesn't affect me because I'll be using Verizon while in US and other networks when I start to travel. Though I wish I had the option in case I wanted to get a t-mobile/simple mobile/AT&T sim to test out speeds, etc.. :(
[Droid 2 General] emarsha:
$392 +local tax wasn't so bad, but it is my fault. I jumped the gun. When they advertise "QuadBand GSM/TriBand UMTS" one would assume that when unlocked you can use a "world" phone...well, all over the world. Guess it's all over the world on verizons terms.

I actually flashed the fission ROM on the D2 Global and it worked, no force closes. I was however always forced into airplane mode. hmmmm.
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
lol all over the world except the US ..lol..nice deal you got though. I can't believe you took the risk of making your phone a huge paper weight by flashing it. Glad to know it worked, my hopes are high again :D ..

So what are you gonna do? wait two more weeks or sell?
[Droid 2 General] chris975d:
Where on earth did you get it so cheap? The cheapest I've found it is around $500.
[Droid 2 General] vladzko:
it sure looks like we need our savior-devs to cook us a nice and tasty radio, that we can nicely spread it on verizon's buns, and give them a real good drilling when we finally have att running on out d2g

thats just an edumacated guess about the radio...or the lock itself might be hidden inside the rom, them vzw bastards....
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
day 3 since I ordered the phone..status "shipping" .."As soon as your package passes our Quality Assurance team, we will send you an email with your tracking information and update this site with a link directly to the shipper's website."

damn wirefly take long. I just hope it's here before friday..:p
[Droid 2 General] :
I was curious about the ROM you loaded. I'm thinking of trying to load the same one.

I was wondering what you meant by "forced into airplane mode"? Would it not even get on the Verizon network? Just trying to figure out if you were stuck with a brick (more or less) or at least able to still use it on Verizon?

Thanks.
[Droid 2 General] newk8600:
It is not recommended that anybody flash a D2 ROM on their D2 G because the sbf isn't out. I see that fission has been loaded but it seems there are some bugs that occur. It's best if you stick to stock until the sbf releases unless you are experienced with a D2 and are extremely careful.
[Droid 2 General] ram130:
so new user to the droid dev..what is the sbf and what does it do and why is it taking so long?