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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sardopardo:
A great guy fixed this problem, I am copying the text here for you all to see. It worked very well for me on my HD2. Manila2.5.19211619.0 Rom 1.48408.1(71294)ITA

Judicator7za [Moderator] 10 months ago

Boys and girls, the problem is in the settings. I got mine fixed after almost killing everyone in a 100meter radius.

Go to start, settings. Press menu -> all settings. Next connections. Advanced network.

Now goto the fourth tab "SMS Service". Instead of GSM Preffered, put it on GSM. I know my country (South Africa) doesnt support GPRS sms'ing. I did this last night, and since I changed the setting my sms's are working.

Hope it works for you guys too. Can't believe they bring out a phone with so many bugs. It's unacceptable...

I want to Thank's publicly to Judicator7za
[Vibrant Accessories] erwin081987:
Does anyone have any experience with a larger leather case for the Vibrant that will accommodate the added bulk of a hard/silicone case? None of the leather cases I can see on Ebay have any indication of fitting a cased Vibrant.
[Vibrant Accessories] tekkguy:
This one that I bought fits my Vibrant perfectly with a gel case on. I've also tested it with a Body Glove.

There is still a bit of room with the gel case and Body Glove, so I'm betting thicker cases would be ok too.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Q4AJR2

This would NOT be good to use with a naked Vibrant.
[Vibrant Accessories] erwin081987:
Hey thanks! Definitely going to try that out.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jaraya13:
Hi. I am sorry if somebody already asked this, but I couldn't find it.

Which one is the best AT&T WP7: Surround, Focus, Quantum?

I am almost sure Focus is the best option. Please shed some light here! Thanks!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ren13B:
It all depends on what you want from a phone. The LG has a full keyboard, The Surround has a sliding speaker system and the Focus would be your average modern smart phone. Personally I chose the Focus because of the 4" amoled display and expandable storage.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ryotgz:
The same for me and its size.
[Windows Phone 7 General] harolds:
If it's WP7, then none, at least right now.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
if you're going to post something... at least answer his question. in your opinion it might not be worth buying, but for the many that have, the large majority are happy with it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] falconeight:
I love my focus its OS makes the rest look old and dated.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
I totaly agree the focus is the way to go i have 40 gb storage and the os is so much smoother than the rest and the interface makes ios and android look very old. I compaired my focus to my sons iphione4 last night and the iphone 4 side by side was no comparrison from the apps, to the lock screen, intergration, to the homescreen. or even something as simple as answering or rejecting a call from the lockscreen... since people are always complaing about what should be in a os in these days being able to reject a call from lockscreen is one of the most basic and til this day ios still cannot do it... I never heard anyone complaining about this??
[Windows Phone 7 General] Aturayd:
I bought the Surround. It was more of personal preference about the look and feel of the device. To me, the Surround looked and felt better.. i liked the soft touch back and the solid heavy feel, and really consider the speaker as just a bonus feature as it only adds 1mm of thickness compared to the identical HTC Trophy. The Focus' Super AMOLED screen was amazing, but I didnt like the glossy plastic look. Its all personal preference and what you are looking for in a phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rexian:
I'd agree with Ren13B. If you need a work phone and plan to write 50+ emails (or you are a teenager and need to send 100+ texts) a day, LG would be a better buy for the keyboard.

If you need a better speakerphone or speakers and don't mind a little bulk, Surround is the one. Also, I have seen Surround going for less at Amazon and Newegg so that's another reason.

For everything else, Focus seems to be the best fit.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
that would be a true statement if this was the keyboard of wimdows 6.5 or anything less than wp7 the on screen keyboard is simply unbleavable with its auto correct feature and a 4inch screen you can type as fast if not faster that any hw keyboard... it works that well...
[Windows Phone 7 General] enjoythemusic:
Chose Focus due to memory expansion, screen, and size/quality.

It is interesting to note that, unlike iMapple, the WP7 seems to all have great reception. Have noticed the Samsung Focus has better cell reception than the HTC Fuze and various other HTC/Motorola phones from the past.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MarcMaiden:
I went with the surround. NOTE: I did come from a Samsung Captivate

I went with the surround because:

-better build quality

-nice speaker

-kickstand is nice to have when watching netflix (lol)

-I like HTC over samsung

-Samsung focus felt too flimsy and cheap for me

-Samsung scared me after some of the issues of the captivate (im sure samsung and windows did a better job on the focus, this is just how i feel)

on the other hand though,

SAMOLED is nice, and I do miss, but at the same time the LCD of the Surround is good, but the main thing you are missing is not screen quality, but battery life. I havent had a chance to put my battery to the test, but im sure SAMOLED will trump the HTCs LCD.
[Windows Phone 7 General] markgamber:
The "best" on, of course, depends on what you want from your phone. Personally, I've been burned by lousy hardware from HTC and LG before (several times) and I'm a big Slingplayer user so the large screen, light weight and slim design of the Samsung Focus appealed to me. The other two have are stronger in other areas. Check the specs of each and/or go play with them at an AT&T and decide for yourself.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Oranjoose:
Buyer's remorse no more, check out this page from anandtech:

anandtech.com/show/3982/windows-phone-7-review/28
[Windows Phone 7 General] rexian:
I don't know if the kb on the 4" Focus screen will make a significant difference or not, I can say I type faster hands down on my Fuze than my iPhone, which according to some have the best on-screen kb.

I have seen videos of people typing insanely fast on iPhone but I think they'd be even faster on a good h/w keyboard like Fuze.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rexian:
For long sessions of browsing webpages with white background or emails, there is no doubt AMOLED screen of Focus will drain the battery faster. I wonder if there will be a way in future to change the background/foreground of the browser / email client inWP7.
[Windows Mobile] af974:
Hello chefs,

im having fun with my LEO and build 23146, all is working fine but not Save to Sim app.

Basically my problem is that when i want to save a contact to sim i got "0 contact has been saved" and if i check into sim i see a lot of name with that number:

U/M 0123456

UC/M 0123456

UCM/M 0123456

and so on..

OEM Drivers are from LEO 3.14

WM build as i said is 23146

Language Italian

in addiction i have Phone canvas fixed and dialpad fix.

Anyone has this bug or know how to fix it?

Im pretty sure that is something in 23146 because i dont remember to have had this bug with 23916.

Thanks.

Solved: Did copy siminit.dll,simsec.dll,ccoredrv.dll from 21913...i did not experiment one by one ,ive just used all of three.
[Windows Mobile] brainmaster:
Hello af974, have you cooked in the package "SIM_Mgr"? But I think that you have, otherwise you couldn't start the Export tool.
[Windows Mobile] af974:
Hello Brainmaster,

thanks for the reply,yes i have SIM_Mgr cooked in ,i always prefered to cook for a classic wm 6.5 build and this error occurred when i did jump on wm 6.5.x ...strange though but i will try to leave all the 6.5.x fixes and see if one of them,maybe, goes in conflict with the sim manager app.
[Windows Mobile] Laurentius26:
Hi mate,

You are cooking with 3,14/Oboe mixed EXT packages right?

Some of the packages are dual sim and that's the problem I think.

Grtz,

Laurentius26 :)
[Windows Mobile] af974:
Hi mate,

thanks for the reply :)

Yes im cooking with 3.14 and only Wi-Fi wizard is from Oboe.......i will check if without it it will works fine.
[Windows Mobile] Laurentius26:
Nono, I taught you had contactmanager or simmanager from Oboe, sorry.

It must be something else if that's the only thing your using from Oboe.
[Windows Mobile] alesscam:
i mate,i have seem problem only with build 2314x

i think depende from some fix for this build...

i'm investigating, but I can not figure out where is exactly the problem

if you try to import all contacts work well,but don't work only one :confused:
[Windows Mobile] af974:
I gave a try to exclude all the 6.5.x fixes but the problem occured again,anyway im went back to 21913 ,if one day i will find a fix ill post the solution here.
[Windows Mobile] AndrewSh:
I have no problems with Save to SIM or with SIM Manager on 2314x - everything's working fine on all last builds of the branch. The same Leo, the same drivers. Canvas fixed.
[Windows Mobile] af974:
Thanks for the reply,

I did not try to cook this rom with 0409 language,maybe the problem is located in Lang pack......lol using my 0410 from 23913.
[Windows Mobile] AndrewSh:
I believe it's not a good idea - mui are different in COM2 and COM3
[Windows Mobile] af974:
Yes i thought do and unfortunately i didnt find 0410 lang pack for 2314x......now i have find them and i will try asap.

Thanks again Andrew.
[Windows Mobile] af974:
Found a solution, 1st post updated.
[Legend Android Development] TheLegendaryJay:
I know there are some people like myself who actually like Sense and doing a 'full' root can be daunting, especailly if all you want to do is remove the crud that Vodafone or your Telco install on your branded Legend. But there is no reason this can't be used to remove apps that are in a custom ROM - as far as I am aware! If someone with a custom ROM could confirm this, that would be great!

Righto, as per usual here is the disclaimer - doing this is risky and you do so at your own peril! Don't come crying to me or Paul @ MoDaCo if it bricks your phone (it shouldn't but this is just a warning)

Enough of that you get the idea ;) Now for the fun bit!

First if you are

not

you'll need VISIONary+ from MoDaCo, at the time of this writing r13 is the latest and is available on page 7.

Please read and check the original post as there may be an updated version. If you are rooted skip to the next step.

This is Paul's guide he done quickly on his G2, it's more of a pictorial guide (same rules apply to the Legend as G2 in this case).

Once installed use the Temproot option, this can take 15 seconds or so to complete, use a Terminal Emulator and type su then return/enter and your $ should change to a # - this means you have temproot.

Go to the market and install SuperUser, Titanium Backup, BusyBox.

Open Titanium Backup allowing it root access when prompted, go to Backup/Restore and scroll to find one of the preinstalled bloatware apps, I chose the Vodafone Music app and the Vodafone Web app.

Long hold on the app you want to remove and scroll down a bit and choose the option "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)"

This will reboot your phone TWICE, you will get the recovery screen up - LET IT RUN IT's COURSE! DO NOT INTERRUPT THIS.

Once it boots back into your normal check that the app is no longer in your App drawer :)

Repeat for all the Apps that came preinstalled that you don't want,

just be careful you don't remove anything that may still be needed!

A huge thanks to Paul at MoDaCo for this ingenious hack and the Titanium Backup, BusyBox and SuperUser developers for their hard work in writing their apps which also allow us to easy do this :D

Oh and you can use the Temproot on boot to have a sortof but not fully permaroot :cool:
[Legend Android Development] Rapier:
Great work. I'll try on CM 6.1 RC1. One thing though...If I'm rooted I presume I need only the Titanium backup not VISIONary or other tools, right?
[Legend Android Development] TheLegendaryJay:
Yes you need the other apps, but you can remove them afterwards if you want. You'll need SuperUser to be able to grant Titanium Backup access, and Titanium Backup requires BusyBox to be installed - Titanium Backup gives you the option to install BusyBox if you press the 'Problems?' button under the Overview tab.

PS: you can use the free version of Titanium Backup for this exercise.
[Legend Android Development] Rapier:
Yes, thank you. I knew about busybox and the option to install it from Titanium. SuperUser I have it already since I'm using CyanogenMod RC1 and it is included in the ROM (I think it is OK like this). So only Titanium (+busybox) needs to be installed.

I'll give it a try and let you know the results. I'll try to remove a rather large application (for ex Google Maps) and I'll install it afterward on the sdcard (since it is system appl, it cannot be moved directly to sdcard)

Later edit: IT WORKS! So I've tried to (and succeeded) remove 2 "system" applications: Google Maps and Calculator. Both were removed and the free space is now available (before 80 Mb free, after 91.2 Mb free).

There was only one issue with Maps, the icon still showed up in the application drawer and it was working (even after going through all above). After several checks I found the reason. The Maps were installed twice...the version included in the CM ROM (that was deleted by this procedure) AND the updated Maps (it once asked for upgrading the application from the market and I did that). After removing the "system installed" version of Google Maps, the "updates" remained. I went to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and I found Maps there. I've uninstalled the updates then rebooted the phone. After that the icon was gone completely.

To conclude, for CM ROMS (or for all phones that are already rooted and have already the SU application), the steps to be performed for removing a system appl are:

1. Install Titanium Backup

2. Press (as instructed) "Problems" button. This will install a working version of busybox.

3. Check if the application you want to remove, has also updates (from Market or some other places) installed. If YES, go to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and uninstall all the updates.

4. Start Titanium Backup and perform the steps indicated in the first post by TheLegendaryJay.

So it is working on custom ROM's as well and you don't need VISIONary or other application/tools.

All credits go to Paul, CM team and this whole community, the ones which made such things possible for our phones. TheLegendaryJay, thank you also for sharing this with us. Perhaps for rooted phones it is easier to remove applications with adb commands, but some are maybe not so technical to install the SDK or know how to use it (I can be counted as one of them), or they just might want to remove an application when they don't have a pc with SDK nearby.
[Legend Android Development] sponge-rob:
yap, can confirm this. works great on cm 6.1 rc1. thanks for the hint :)
[Legend Android Development] efex:
For you guys who are rooted - why not just flash the overlay filesystem patch, enable it, and then use any file explorer and go to /system/app/ and delete the apps you dont want? just a tip, it's much easier.. (and takes less time)
[Legend Android Development] Rapier:
Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.
[Legend Android Development] efex:
As I understand it, the system folder is only linked so the phone believes it's on the SD-card. This should mean, no extra space is taken (except for the few kB that makes this possible). i could be wrong, but I use system overlay and I see no whatsoever decrease in performance. Not in benchmarks nor in usage.

If you are rooted - and dont want system overlay, I still think there is a better wway - ADB! just mount system, cd to system/app, ls it and rm whatever apps ypu dont want.. no need for multiple reboots - quick and effective :)
[Legend Android Development] Rapier:
adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
[Legend Android Development] efex:
When it comes to ADB, you must write the filename exactly as it is, if you want to remove Facebook.apk you must rm Facebook.apk, not facebook.apk :p or just rm Facebook*

What I do, I ls all files, copy the filenames I want to remove into into a txt file. ex. "rm facebook.apk Torch.apk voiceDialer.apk AndroidTerm.apk" and so on. When I flash a new rom, i just copy that file string and remove em all with that one command :) ofc. I ls it after and check if there is anything new I want to remove, but I get rid of most of it in a few seconds. (good tip!)
[Legend Android Development] Rapier:
I understood that. Now I've checked again and I know what happened...the same thing I said above. The appl was removed also with adb command but the updates of that appl were not. I've removed the updates from Settings and after that the whole appl was gone (Facebook in this case). So both metods work, everyone can choose what he likes more

Anyway this was much more to test if it's working on custom ROMs as was asked by TheLegendaryJay and less as of providing an alternate way for rooted owners.
[Legend Android Development] BlaY0:
You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...
[Legend Android Development] efex:
thanks for this, great info. :) Now I'm glad I use adb and not file overlay for removing files :D
[Legend Android Development] BlaY0:
Why's that? Overlay is really handy thing for testing... U can make the system think that the file is not there but in fact is. If something goes wrong (boot loop) because of that, U just disable overlay and U R back on with origial state. After U are satisfied with changes, U can merge those changes into read-only file system via recovery mode.

Sent from my HTC Legend
[Legend Android Development] Rapier:
BlaY0, you're totally right. Overlay is a great thing for testing (and by the way many thanks you for what you did). But if you're not a tester, just an enthusiast who look for new stuff for his phone, overlay could be much more than he needs.

I'm looking for example to have as much free space in memory as possible. REAL free space. If I'm using overlay, that will not be gained right? The read only files will still be there, only the overlay will show them "deleted". So...what I'm doing instead is that I'm flashing one of the existing ROMs (as per my preferences - CM 6.1 RC1 for ex.) that will not "brick" my phone, I customize it with widgets and applications as I like, than I start deleting what I don't need. For sure I can use overlay for that, but I can do it also without it. This topic presented an alternative for doing that, to the known adb commands. Also from what I've understood, the method in this topic is more aimed to the ones that are not (or don't want to be) rooted. And for those, the adb method doesn't work
[Legend Android Development] BlaY0:
You sure are totally right, but then again if you deleted some apk from /system/app that is needed for some other apk and U didn't know about that, you could end up with a so called boot loop. And if this is done by some noob, the simplest way for him to restore would be to wipe and reflash the original ROM. Overay can prevent such accidents. Actually even with overlay you can save space especially where is needed the most, that's on data partition - there's no need for dex in dalvik-cache any more etc. and surely you get more free ram as that app isn't loading any more. For the system partition it actually doesn't matter if it is full in fact why it shouldn't be full. When we get our S-OFF the first thing I will do is to rearange mtd partitions shrinking system and extending data coz now I have like nearly 50 MB free on system partition that I can not use wisely.

Sent from my HTC Legend
[Legend Android Development] NX3:
Thanks, VF music and web app not banished from my Legend :D
[Legend Android Development] blondehoneybunny:
Okay, I must be doing something wrong, but I have no idea what. I have the same ROM as Rapier on my Desire, I have Titanium Backup and I did everything he said above. The pre-installed apps are uninstalled with TB (Car app, News and Weather, Facebook, Twitter, Google Voice, Maps, Quickoffice 2.0 which I have no idea what really is), I clear the Dalvik cache and many mega are freed. Then if I reboot, they're back. Like nothing happened.

Do you have any idea or should I give more details? Thanks for the help, guys.
[Legend Android Development] Rapier:
Have you checked also if those applications you're removing do not have some updates installed? Because if they do, you'll get them back on the phone. First remove the updates from each application (from normal "Application" management), then remove the application residing in system with TB.

PS. QuickOffice is a suite program similar with MS Office, that allows you to read (and in the paid version also to write) office documents (.doc, .xls, .ppt...etc)
[Legend Android Development] blondehoneybunny:
Thank you for your quick reply.

Yes, I have checked and uninstalled all updates. They are all with the basic version.

About Quickoffice, I know what it is :) It's just that the one that came with CM 6.1.0 RC1 cannot be accessed, it can only be used to open supported file formats (I just found out after posting here :D). I'd prefer the normal Quickoffice with which I can access my dropbox and Google docs too, that's why I wanted to uninstall this in the first place.
[Legend Android Development] Dr.Romca:
Hi guys!

Though I did not use overlay as per this howto, I did delete some unwanted apps (created a zip file that did the deletions).

All is fine except a minor thing:

I have a two widgets called "false" (with HTC being the producer) in the add widget list.

Does anyone know what other files or entries are there for these?

delete SYSTEM:app/Stock.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Stock.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.StockWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.StockWidget.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/FriendStream.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/FriendStream.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.FriendStreamWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.FriendStreamWidget.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcTwitter.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcTwitter.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/com.htc.TwitterWidget.odex
delete SYSTEM:app/Talk.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Flickr.apk
delete SYSTEM:app/Flickr.odex

Thanks!
[Legend Android Development] blondehoneybunny:
Nvm, my mistake, as usual for noobs :) I was simply uninstalling. Blah.