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[Captivate General] Kaik541:
the "factoryfs.rfs" screen-o-death is a well known problem. fortunately, factoryfs.rfs doesn't really matter (it's only the /system partition), your phone just won't boot. Likely you'll hit the phone--!--PC screen, but as long as you have 3 button recovery working, you're safe.

this issue crops up when you have a bad USB connection to your phone. I'm willing to bet 90% of the people with this problem are running outdated hardware (made before 2006 or so) that can't keep up with ODIN's pace or are using a desktop and not plugging the USB into a port connected to the motherboard (you should be using one on the back of the tower)
[Captivate General] jslee1020:
posts like this... littering the dev forum
[Captivate General] sykonsc:
so i have flashed several roms just using rom manager and when i tried to go back to stock without disabling voodoo first i would get stuck at the att screen and would not go any further. that's it, no orange screen or anything like that so all i had to do was 3button into recovery and flash back to cognition, no problems at all. should i be using odin? i don't see why i need to use odin if rom man is working fine for me. can someone explain any benefits of usin odin as opposed to rom man or 3 button into recovery? thanks
[Captivate General] needtogetoutmore:
I don't think the Dev's would have us do something that would damage our phones. I also believe that the dev's work hard and test everything they put out to function to the best of there ability.

Now....You say you have bricked 4 different Captivates while restoring back to stock from Cog?? You my friend...are doing something wrong. Very wrong.

It is common knowledge that you are supposed to remove all lagfix's, flash back to stock, then flash the new rom via CWM or Odin, or whatever method you want...and if you do it right, you'll have no issues.

I've been flashing since the days of the HTC 6900 and <--that was the only phone I've bricked(did testpoint fix tho..lol), and I bricked it because I was cooking my own roms, and added **** my phone didn't even have :p and tried to dev it out..lol..didn't work

Hope you figure out why your bricking phones but do as some people have suggested...get new drivers(uninstall the old and reinstall the new even if there the same), run Odin as Admin(right click-->run as admin).

But man...You've bricked 4 phones..the common denominator is YOU..quit screwing with something you apparently don't understand.

Sorry to sound like a ****.
[Captivate General] Ryukeima:
+ 1, Math is great. Also, I always flash back to stock between flashes and I have flashed every version of Cognition/SRE, sometimes I forget to deactivate voodoo and sometimes I don't, and I have never bricked my phone. I think you need to re-evaluate your process. Also, this thread is very misleading. Just because you have bricked your phone, does not mean that it "will cause brick" to everyone else.
[Captivate General] needtogetoutmore:
Yea..Sometimes I don't disable voodoo but sometimes I do, and the only difference I can see is it's speedy as hell at stock..lol
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
The next nexus looks like an updated vibrant!!

http://androidapproved.com/item/google-officially-announces-the-nexus-s/
[Nexus S General] Master™:
Wrong section man...
[Nexus S General] Segnaro:
Now the Hummingbirds can be as optimized as the Snapdragons are. :cool:
[Nexus S General] s15274n:
Yeah. saw the best buy ad today.. looks sweet. I'm sure people will bash it though because Sammy's name on it. Shame.
[Nexus S General] quest4fire:
Yep, looks like the Vibrant's sister. She's hot!
[Nexus S General] DonutYankee:
Hopefully it'll be easy enough to port Gingerbread to the Vibrant.
[Nexus S General] swehes:
I agree. I add a +1 to that comment. :)
[Nexus S General] egzthunder1:
Well, technically you are right, but as we do not have a section for this device just yet, and it does indeed look like the Vibrant... I guess we can let it be. Besides, it is in General...
[Nexus S General] fumanstan:
First thing I thought of as well.
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
+1 Hopefully, this is what im looking forward to!!

^^ :D
[Nexus S General] heygrl:
It's already better than the Nexus One (ugly). This thing is svelte. I'm glad it still has the antenna bump because it's the reason why our reception is good. The Fascinate doesn't have this bump and it has some reception issues with losing service because of the smaller antenna.

- The speakerphone will rock

- SAMOLED

- Flash for those that need one

- LED Notification light for those that need one

- GPS is probably going to work out of the box

- Stock Android

- Good Reception, better than the Nexus One that's for certain

- PERFECT size

- Updates handled by Google
[Nexus S General] ColorNapkin:
I don't think the Nexus S has super amoled, does it?
[Nexus S General] Tarzanman:
That phone is the reason that the Vibrant will probably never see Android 2.3 (or won't for another 6 months or so).

Unless the Nexus S is sporting a 1280x760 screen then its not worth considering if you already have a Vibrant
[Nexus S General] tonie972:
It's definitely worth it because of the update. I'm getting rid of the Vibrant once I get my hands on the S. Samsung needs to step up and support the damn updates.
[Nexus S General] w1bmw:
What!?! You don't like flashing custom ROMs every other day? :):):) Heretic!
[Nexus S General] phillipxenxciel:
ps, no thats not a nexus, it's galaxy s for verizon
[Nexus S General] swehes:
Just want to add my LOL to that one. :)
[Nexus S General] blasian shadows:
lolol sllooowpooke
[Nexus S General] Segnaro:
The Nexus One has a lot of roms so maybe the Nexus S will have a ton too. :cool:

But a lot of devs are HTC fanboys too so idk :D
[Nexus S General] MaybachMan:
This is what I've been waiting for! I'm gonna need to upgrade my signature - a new Nexus is what I need in my life!
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
Good news and looks like this is going to happen after all.....

now waiting for hardware leak....
[Nexus S General] PolishDude:
how do you know it will have LED notification? My mytouch 4g may have a short life lol
[Nexus S General] Rodriguez92:
When is this supposed to be released? I think I might get that and give my vibrant to my girl as much as I love my vibrant that phone will be bettermost likely
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
doent look like it has LED notif. Mytouch is dieing as we speak :)

release date.....some say later in November (actually the 14th), others say in time for holidays, which means before Dec. 25th
[Nexus S General] heygrl:
It's to the left, looks like the Epic 4G's LED notification light. Don't bank on it, but I don't understand why it wouldn't have one if they went out of their way to add flash.
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
thats light sensor, proximity sensor and on the right ffc
[Nexus S General] DreamcastDC:
If this is for real, we Galaxy S owners will get the best and latest version of Android.
[Nexus S General] MacGuy2006:
If you don't have the right drivers, we'll get it, but without stuff like GPS....
[Nexus S General] nextgin:
I wonder if the Android Image for this Nexus S will work better with our Vibrants. Especially if the image helps with the banding issues on the FFC installed on the Vibrants.
[Nexus S General] pigs3littleones:
Sure looks like google hasn't been paying attention to the debacle the Galaxy S is. And yes, my primary phone is a Vibrant and I also own a Euro SGS. Both unfortunately. I purchased the second one before I really had a chance to sample the original properly. Definitely my mistake and I won't make that one again. Samsung will never get another penny from me.

Shame Google didn't have more sense that to partner with the travesty that is Samsung Mobile.
[Nexus S General] PolishDude:
Look at a vibrant, has the same thing, light sensor. No led and no hspa+ kind of sucks, hopefully it comes out soon so I can see what its all about
[Nexus S General] All~G1:
Great News! I'll hope, but I'm not holding my breath, for a 2.3 nexus $ port.
[Nexus S General] lqaddict:
Google and Samsung really have to try to make it a success.

The stakes in mobile war are high, with WP7 entering (I won't personally use just for the reason it is based on a close platform) it will be really tough to make the Android a desirable platform.

Will I get one? It depends if Samsung optimizes the hardware enough to justify it as a developer phone - I'm still seeing RFS in its future, but I hope they will wisen up.
[Nexus S General] eortizr:
Looking at the pictures it seems that the antenna will be in the back case just like the HTC Aria...

btw.. I really hope that it has the same radio as the vibrant so I can use it on At&t's 3G, cuz there is no way I'm using crappy TMO
[Nexus S General] heygrl:
The antenna is in the same place as the original Galaxy S, same for nearly all Samsung phones. At the bottom, the difference here is the bump needed for the antenna.

Secondly I feel the same about AT&T. Thank god it's not on that network, data drops out randomly(NO data icon), extremely high ping, dropped calls/call failures.
[Nexus S General] DonutYankee:
http://www.phonedog.com/2010/11/12/rumor-original-nexus-s-scrapped-in-favor-of-a-dual-core-model

RUMOR

Oh, look, testers weren't happy with Nexus S performance so Samsung decided to scrap it and develop a dual-core version. Darn, I wonder what could possibly have made an AOSP 2.3 phone with the Hummingbird processor have sub-par performance? *cough* RFS *cough*

Yeah, a rumor. But a rumor that isn't too far out there. Samsung = best processors and internal components in the world, worst software in the world. Pathetic.
[Nexus S General] ConceptVBS:
Now that we have Google's backing, best software + best hardware = WIN.

It looks like the dual core chip will most likely be the Samsung Orion or the NVIDIA Tegra 2.
[Nexus S General] anthonys2r:
Samsung needs to divert resources from hardware department to software department
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
^^^ Agreed!!
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
BAM!! http://androidapproved.com/item/gingerbread-and-samsung-nexus-s-photos/
[Nexus S General] Tarzanman:
Good find. I'm a little disappointed about the specs (mainly the memory and the screen resolution).

Unless 2.3 has some killer features, I will probably hold out for a Honeycomb phone
[Nexus S General] N8ter:
So Android 2.3 looks as ugly as any other version in stock form.

I've given up hope.
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
this was not what i expected. besides the screen and processor the vibrant seems to be a better phone!!
[Nexus S General] down8:
Aren't the screen & processor the killer feature of the SGS...? That would make this new phone better....

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-exclusive-gingerbread-2-3-nexus-s-pictures/

Android Approved seems to be slashdotted - better to go straight to the source.

-bZj
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
how is that even possible ?

if screen is better, if its dual-core, it has flash, its running stock Android 2.3, and its a developer phone, and it also has that cool hardware thing that Engadget showed in vid.....

so how can Vibrant be better ?
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
The screen resolution is the same, and how much better can the screen get? and even with a dual-core, it's still going to be laggy without enough memory (possible 328mb). And the specs on the vibrant are good enough to run 2.3 and can probably be ported (hopefully)

I don't see anything the nexus s can do that the vibrant cant do equally well.
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
double post sorry!!
[Nexus S General] sl0play:
At least one thing has remained the same...

They can't make a new android phone without changing the order if the buttons!

Texted While Driving
[Nexus S General] Kubernetes:
Yeah, what's with the specs? Less RAM? Same 800x480 resolution? Personally, I won't upgrade from the Vibrant unless I get a higher res screen.
[Nexus S General] DKYang:
Funny how you guys take rumored info so seriously.
[Nexus S General] xriderx66:
What dkyang said haha
[Nexus S General] down8:
Those are almost opposite statements.

"Better" != "nearly as good with some hacking"....

On Topic: If I can get this thing contract free for $500, I'll sell my Vibrant & upgrade to something free of Samsung's ****ty software.... And pray they used a better supported GPS chipset.

-bZj
[Nexus S General] sLiKK:
I totally agree with you. With all the info available so far, nexus s specs aren't better than the vibrant. The only benefit with nexus s will be u will get newer versions of android first. I wish Samsung had supported its flagship phone's aoftware in a timely fashion.

*** Sent from my Samsing Vibrant using xda app
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
What android phone has been released that hasn't been made better by hacking. If this is the case no one will be waiting for a CM release on any phone if they were better stock.

There are plenty of rom in the dev section that fixes the GPS issues!! No problem that i've found on the vibrant, even on my bros g2 that couldnt be fixed with an hack!!
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
By the way i'm not trying to start an argument or anything, just trying to get my point across and im sure your just doing the same. Would be better if we both agree to disagree before the mods try to step in!!
[Nexus S General] AlexSochi8:
The specs look pretty much the same the only difference i see is 1.2ghz processor, front facing cam that is stock! not needed to mod and flash like vibrant, and it has camera flash! I really wish vibrant had a flash for the camera. Gingerbread is pretty awesome I suppose if froyo is the ishh now..

One main thing that would make me switch from my vibrant on top of all those things is 4G or HSPA+ w/e its called (fake 4G) is still faster than 3G.

Does anyone one have any info whether or not Nexus S will have "4G" speed?
[Nexus S General] kolyan:
it has to be.....new best developer phone without 4g......doesnt sound right at all
[Nexus S General] jokersax11:
Personally I want it to be as close to the vibrant as possible but overclocked, new file system and better drivers. Cause all that means great things for us.
[Nexus S General] r3skyline:
do want....
[Nexus S General] down8:
Making it better via hacking has nothing to do with your original statement, which you are trying to run from now. You said the Vibrant was better, and it is not. Almost as good, fine - but not "better."

I could give a **** about CM - I prefer Google's infinite resources to Cyanogen's hacks. I respect his hard work, but I don't care to run it on my phone.

And my GPS still sucks at stoplights.

-bZj
[Nexus S General] down8:
Dbl post....
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
That was my original statement and I still stand by it...besides the GPS I've had no other problems with the phone and that issue has been long resolved. I personally don't need a dual core phone for everyday use...how much faster can the messaging app open, doesn't lag when you open the dialer, browser runs smoothly, games run great. Besides a new os and better gps, what could make this phone so much better than the vibrant? What...a higher quadrant score? How much better can the screen get?? Unless it had a higher resolution, but that hasn't been confirmed yet...My point still is theres nothing that this phone will do that the vibrant can't do just as good...

--

Sent from Vibrant ~ XDA
[Nexus S General] heygrl:
there are no fixes for GPS that will come from XDA. My GPS works great for Google Navigation. The Galaxy Tab has RFS and no lag. Explain that one.

Cyanogen is HTC. They don't know much about anything else hence why we're waiting in the lurch.
[Nexus S General] HYE_TECH:
Hahaha...are you serious? I dont think Google even worries about Wp7...its pure crap. Software and hardware! No competition whatsoever....WP7 HAHAHAHAHA
[Nexus S General] down8:
Exactly - you said "better phone." Not "hacked to be just as good" - "better."

Whether you need the power or not is your choice. But, in this case, "better" is not a subjective opinion related to need - it is an objective fact.

-bZj
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
You can't put a personal opinion verses fact. Saying that the Vibrant was a better phone was my personal opinion. Comparing the fact sheets, on paper the Nexus S is going to be a better phone. I'm running stock 2.2 with no problems. In my opinion, if those leaked specs are the final specs, the vibrant is a better phone.

The phone has not been released yet so this argument of which phone is better is very redundant.
[Nexus S General] SugarMouth:
I was wondering the same thing. My Galaxy tab flies. No market lag like my Vibrant had.
[Nexus S General] STi489:
I have 2 Vibrants and should sell one now before prices drop Alot when this is released.
[Nexus S General] g1ftmfw:
I love reading while you guys argue about unconfirmed and speculatory specs, pics, and rumors without sources.... In a hacker/developer world like this you look like childish morons... wait for the REAL facts and stfu in the meantime and quit wasting bandwidth... go cry to your imaginary girlfriends
[Nexus S General] jonjonk:
im debating on whether or not to just get the vibrant now or wait for the nexus.
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
Obviously someone doesn't know how to read!!! :rolleyes: If it doesn't concern you go to www.disney.com and entertain yourself.
[Nexus S General] Gigamaster89:
How dare you pull Disney into this...you should be ashamed of yourself!
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
LOL...............
[Nexus S General] Robert8457:
It would be nice I t-mobile gave a discount to everybody who got the vibrant so we could upgrade early
[Nexus S General] AlexSochi8:
+1 that thought
[Nexus S General] g1ftmfw:
show me a real build sheet and a hands on that actually is descript... until it is in your hand it doesnt exist.... now go lick your nuts...
[Nexus S General] dezshiz:
I'd wait for the nexus S
[Nexus S General] S0NiX0928:
...

After using these forums unregistered for several weeks now it's funny I'd choose this thread for my first post. And it's somewhat of a complaint nonetheless (sorry have to vent mildly here). If this phone drops and is actual sometime in the near future I will be promptly returning to T-Mobile and demanding they take back this bogged down, defective device that is my Samsung Vibrant. I say defective because of the lack of serious support from Samsung in regards to OTA updates and several hardware/software issues (GPS never worked 100%, bloatware slowly down phone). And to release something of a Vibrant successor after not addressing previous models is absolutely, dare I say it, retarded.

Granted, this is what I would like to do... but typically I don't always muster the balls to be so demanding. Anyone else steamed over this?..

Thanks for tolerating the rant guys (I do intend to use these forums proper though, this was quite the awkward first post, haha).

- RMB
[Nexus S General] N8ter:
They'll just tell you you had 14 days to do that. I'm about ready to call them up with my ETF fee ready though. Don't want to talk to retentions, etc. Just take it and let me go, so I can sell it and go get a phone from Verizon or Sprint.

I already came real close to closing the account already. There will be no third chances, and quite frankly I'm tired dealing with a carrier with only a 14-day return policy. If it had been 30 days I probably would have given it back in that time frame. 14 days is not enough for me to evaluate a device, personally.

Another thing that pisses me off is the way T-Mobile makes every phone BOGO 2 wk to a month after release, but if you ask them in the store or on the phone they always tell you there's no way that certain phone would be offered BOGO any time soon. I asked in the store and online about the Vibrant, and 3 weeks later it was BOGO. I wasted a lot of money listening to these people.
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
Somebody needs a hug!!

If you read my last post in the argument you wouldn't be flapping your fat lips!!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9485303&postcount=66
[Nexus S General] g1ftmfw:
so because you say something someone else cant??? it seems we agree... quit trolling for conflict ...:cool:
[Nexus S General] felix.akinyemi:
Cant delete!!
[Nexus S General] demo23019:
Its official

http://www.google.com/nexus/#utm_campaign=us&utm_source=ha-bk&utm_medium=sem&utm_term=nexus s
[Nexus S General] robavila721:
Looks to be a vibrant with a different look.
[Nexus S General] swehes:
So who will buy it and send it off to our Devs to get Gingerbread of it to port to our Vibrants?
[Nexus S General] ColorNapkin:
16GB!

The phone looks great and the fact that it's pure Google is the biggest enticement for me.
[Nexus S General] demo23019:
exclusive updates threw Google is deal breaker for me

Minor things i like

FFC, antifingerprint screen, no more crappy chrome bezel, camera flash, possible better antenna and GPS

But what will suck is if you lose samsung video codec support

possibly me but IDK need to research more
[Nexus S General] TheAdictsPunk:
Not the Smartest Techie but...

seems like our vibrants have better hardware... screen, microsd slot, possibly a headphone jack missing in the nexus s, and the same in all other aspects of hardware...

Am i mistaken? Is 2.3 the only thing the nexus s has going for it? What reasons does anyone have for even switching to the nexus s?
[Nexus S General] ColorNapkin:
What are you talking about?

The screen is also super amoled

headphone jack is not missing, it's on the bottom of the phone

Vibrant doesn't have a microSd slot either. With 16GB internal memory you have more than enough

1 reason for switching: Google updates the moment brings them out, not when Samsung feels like it.
[Nexus S General] demo23019:
yes it does its next to simm card
[Nexus S General] Bignjuicyjc:
I've been waiting quite a while for the Nexus S. I had my heart and mind set on buying one, now with the specs out I don't think I will be anymore.

Granted the updates via Google is great and one of the features I was looking forward to, the SINGLE processor is a HUGE LETDOWN for me.

Especially where as all the gadget blogs/sites say there will be dual-core phones coming out in bunches in Q1 of 2011.

One of the things that could possibly save it though is if they got the hardware to play nice with the Hummingbird, the way JIT is optimized for the Snapdragon.

The Nexus one and a few others saw big-time performance increases with Froyo.... SGS, so far, not so much.
[Nexus S General] ColorNapkin:
Oh I take it back then.

The double camera is nice. Also, another negative seems to be the Assisted GPS (A-GPS) instead of the Standalone GPS chip the Vibrant has.
[Nexus S General] demo23019:
it is stand alone GPS AGPS is just a feature vibrant uses AGPS also if enabled

what i dont like lack of ext microSD, possible lost of samsung video codec, from spec no hspa+
[Nexus S General] ronnieb00:
Your understanding of a-gps is off...
[Nexus S General] TheAdictsPunk:
So then at best it is equal?
[Nexus S General] Gigamaster89:
With such similar specs to the Vibrant, this is good news...for the Vibrant.
[Nexus S General] TheAdictsPunk:
http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=samsung-vibrant-a-galaxy-s-phone&phone=nexus-s

Comparison Chart.

It's the same damn phone, lol.
[Nexus S General] ColorNapkin:
Maybe it is. I was basing my statement off what I read in Wikipedia.
[Nexus S General] lolcopter:
haha, nice. not even gonna think twice about it
[Nexus S General] Gigamaster89:
$199 on contract

$529 off
[Nexus S General] swehes:
Awesome comparison