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[Venue Pro General] sixsevenco:
I've been trying that several times throughout the day, and it has not worked for me. Congrats if you're telling the truth, but I don't believe you... :)
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
Okay i retract my me too :D I hope they ship it before then though
[Venue Pro General] DarkAlkamist:
Well I'm telling the truth, but I don't know what other way to prove it, but I have been trying for 2 days now and just so happen, I came into work, tried, and it worked. Right now it still says that it's "In Production" so I'm sure it will not be shipping anytime soon. But if something changes I will let everyone here know first. I'm just as excited as everyone else, I sold my Nexus One to get the Venue Pro, and have been using my T-Mobile G1 for the past week, and I'm about to go crazy with the G1, it's sooo damn slow! I've done everything to resist the HD7. Now I have no choice but to go all the way with the Venue Pro, since I've already placed my order, so I'm in it for the long haul.:)
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Have you played with a Samsung Focus? Unless a keyboard is a must for you or you're sick of ATT, go with the Focus. I really want a DVP, but I did use a Focus for awhile at an ATT store and if it had the necessary T-Mo 3G bands, I might be tempted to get it. I can live without the keyboard. It's the nice speaker, g. glass, and amoled which make me want it over the HD7.
[Venue Pro General] zaijian:
Ok, I believe you.

And hate you.

I've been trying that link hourly!
[Venue Pro General] Forbco:
I have. And if everything else was equal, it would be my second choice. I am, however, kind of frustrated with att. But my big is the least expensive way (long term) is to go tmob. No contract and $30 cheaper / month. Getting a phone with contract is cheaper up front but your locked in for extended period at a higher per month rate. Att doesn't even offer a reduce rate for paying retail for the phone.
[Venue Pro General] sixsevenco:
I don't mean to be a jerk. Maybe I just don't want to believe you... :)
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
I just switched from ATT and went with the "Even More Plus for Families 750 Talk + Text + Web" for the $109.99 a month deal. I was paying $100 a month on ATT for all that but zero data.
[Venue Pro General] Razorfold:
Well the dell website has been updated, yet again.

No longer does it have an option to "sign-up for product annoucements". Just says coming soon now.

I swear if this phone isn't released by the end of this week, or if its released but doesn't ship by this week...I'm just going to say screw it and go for the HD7.

This wait is just getting stupid.
[Venue Pro General] DarkAlkamist:
I could not believe it either wheni placed the order.
[Venue Pro General] pNoyr3D:
I am on the phone with DELL Mobility & they said it released yesterday!!! WTF

He is transferring me to sales to purchase it, hopefully they have it!! He better not lie to me!!

*** ****ER LIED TO ME!!! The sales guy said it did not come out yesterday & that they do not know when it is coming out, he said they had a meeting with Dell & T-Mobile yesterday looking at the phone & they did not give a release date, he said he is shooting end of next week or beginning of december & he could not disclose any information.. seriously.. WTF is going on with the DELL Reps! Can they ****ing make up their mind!? JEEZE
[Venue Pro General] isoman4:
Serious problem...

I just gave up. mobile.amazon.com had the HD7 for sale today for $49.99 with a 2 year, and I gave in. Couldn't resist the price. I reallllly wanted a DVP, but with all of these delays and the fact that Dell's own CSR's don't have any idea of what is going on, I have to assume either Dell as a company is completely incompetent (which is highly possible) or there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with this phone. I personally can't waste the money on something that might not work...no matter how pretty it is...and MAN is it pretty! We'll see what the DVP2 looks like in a year or two.

Good luck ordering, guys! I'll be following the action :)
[Venue Pro General] Razorfold:
Well its confirmed that absolutely nobody at dell knows what's going on:

I think this has got to rank high in the list of worst product launches ever...first it misses the Nov 8th launch date...then had the engineering samples fiasco...then had it delayed to Nov 14th...then delayed to Nov 19th...and now nobody knows when it will be released.

Screw it, getting an HD7 tomorrow...sorry dell, I'm not going to sit around and keep waiting for a dam phone to be released.
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
Dell is incompetent.

When will they realize that they should NEVER give out release dates unless they are 100% positive they will meet those dates.
[Venue Pro General] nasell:
It's really pathetic...

Multiple people I spoke with at the Microsoft store here in Denver stated that each store got somewhere between 10-15 units. With only 7 Microsoft stores, you're telling me that Dell launched this thing with around 100 units to sell?! WTF?

Maybe they should have been more worried about the launch of their product, rather than hoarding a bunch for their internals right off the bat. Sounds like they wanted to be there at launch, but they're making a bunch of us wait around like idiots... starting to piss me off.
[Venue Pro General] pNoyr3D:
I agree with this being one of THE WORST releases ever. And I am getting impatient.

But I will still be willing to wait for the phone, hopefully it does come out the 19th, if not tomorrow the 18th. It is in my opinion the Windows Phone worth the wait, I played with the HD7 & it was amazing, love WP7, the OS is smooth and beautiful. But I want the hardware keyboard & the AMOLED which is why I am waiting.

DELL needs to let everyone know what is going on & give a final release date because this is pissing me off so much.
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Yup, I actually just made the decision to spend my 500 dollars on a new XBOX 360 Reach edition, lol. Have a RRoD collecting dust. I'll get a WP7 device after the January update. Dell has been completely incompetent and it's unacceptable. The HD7 is not an option for me since I have sworn off HTC until they get their act together.

EDIT: Nexus S here I come.
[Venue Pro General] pNoyr3D:
Lol I see you switched your Future Phone 1 to Nexus S.

I am keeping my hopes up for a release tomorrow or Friday!
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
yeah this is crazy, like someone mentioned. Maybe they went ahead and gave the 25000 units to employees and now running end to amoled screen supply issues or something and thats why they dumped off the few engineering models as bait/distractor. Heck i dont know. Just gonna use my Hd7 and be happy. Now would someone make a dam checkbook app :D
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
4:29:36 PM	System	System

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4:29:41 PM	Agent	Hyder R

Welcome to Dell order status and inquiry chat I hope you are doing well and thank you for waiting. My name is Hyder Abbas my email id is hyder_abbas_razvi@dell.com How may I assist you today?

4:29:59 PM	Customer	KK

Yeah, when is the Dell Venue Pro being released?

4:31:42 PM	Agent	Hyder R

I will be glad to help you.

4:32:10 PM	Customer	KK

I hate to be a jerk, but the complete lack information on this device's release date and price make me question how well Dell's technical support will be if I decide to buy the Venue Pro.

4:32:23 PM	Customer	KK

So, please, do find out when it is being released for me right now.

4:32:41 PM	Agent	Hyder R

I will be glad to help you.

4:34:12 PM	Agent	Hyder R

It would be 2 weeks.

4:34:22 PM	Agent	Hyder R

I found out that it would be released within another 2 weeks.

4:34:41 PM	Customer	KK

Okay, thank you.

4:34:47 PM	System	System

The session has ended!
[Venue Pro General] Razorfold:
Lol does dell not inform their customer service reps of any changes at all?

I just talked to another rep and they said:

But your one says 2 weeks?

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Well managed to get the rep you talked to:

So I guess as things stand now they're aiming for a first week of December release.
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
lol, "estimated"
[Venue Pro General] Razorfold:
lol..

Engadget.

Wonder if the ridiculous venue pro delays had anything to do with it lol.
[Venue Pro General] Forbco:
Something is funky about this

After thinking (and re-thinking) about Dell and this phone, I'm beginning to think there is something seriously out of wack. How can Dell blow a rollout of what could be potentually the device that finally gets their foot into the market? It just does not make since.:confused:

So, I can get the Samsung Focus for 49.95 with a contract at Amazon. I hate contracts, but I need a phone I can trust and the extra 150 discount 'almost' wipes out the higher long term cost.

As my main reason is for development, I still need to make some calls to 'make sure' I'm not blocked by att (that would seriously make MS unhappy).

And it appears IF you change the memory card out before you start using the phone, you can upgrade to 32Gbytes. The DVP is reported to have a warranty tape over the slot.

I am going to verify all of this before I make my final decision. Another late night. :rolleyes:
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Yeah, make sure you have all the facts. I think the Focus has some pretty cool camera settings. If I recall correctly, it even has HDR settings. I did not test out its speaker quality, though, and I've been wondering how good it sounds. Also, do you ever go over the 2GB limit or are you grandfathered in?
[Venue Pro General] 937dytboi:
I totally agree with you, HTC has been on a downfall
[Venue Pro General] kimck99:
+2 Over the last year, all of HTC devices look the same to me and I don't see anything compelling anymore. They decided to go with the "cheap" route and used existing parts to create the HD7, Trophy, etc. and the Surround - what a joke.

I'll give credit to Dell to coming up with a design that is different than the rest of the WP7 phone line up but I'm fed up with the wait/lack of information. Focus is it.
[Venue Pro General] 937dytboi:
First im waiting on Sprint to release a device in 2011, months after the release of WP7, Saw the device they plan on releasing in 2011 and its a HTC device. Right now im staying away from HTC.

Changes my mind and decided I want to switch services just for the DVP. Get all my money ready for the DVP on its release date, and ultimate failure takes place. WTF, now im stuck here waiting to replace this TP2 piece of crap thats gets worse by the day.

Come on WP7 manufacturers lets get it together, dont let me switch to Android.

Im so pissed cause i need a new device asap, i need a more stable device and a refresh
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Yep, if it wasnt for the fact that HTC are a bunch of complete lying gits, with their promises of being behind WP7 yet releasing completely nondescript hardware AND recycling parts to the point of repeating a bug that occurred with the HD2 camera! I would have gone for the HD7 already. at&t is not an option for me so I will sadly have to hold on to my constantly freezing HD2 and hope that else someone comes out with another AWS compatible phone. If only the US wasnt so screwed up with their 3G frequencies I could import a device from Europe; even better would be if Nokia actually made a WP7 device which would be penta-band like their N8, wouldnt have to deal with these monkeys at all then. Really hard to see all the good applications and games I could be enjoying but cant becaure of the IDIOTS at Dell!!!!!

And doesnt anyone find it strange that on the Dell website there are 3 five star ratings for the VP? Hard to believe that anyone who owns the device did not find the same issues that have been reporte, like the camera.
[Venue Pro General] ajftl:
im getting the focus tomorrow.. **** this.. anyway reviews on dvp camera suck ass and im a very big pic guy.. focus has one of or the best review for pics...

done deal. screw u dell and u dvp......im going home!
[Venue Pro General] sureloch:
Called the MS store here in Colorado, they said they had the VP on launch day only but sold out. It was the 8gb version for $199 with 2-year, orhe thought he remembered around $450 for outright purchase. One of the employees spent today with the task of finding out when they would be getting more, but he only hit dead ends and no info. I am on my 6th TP2 in 11 months because of problems with the device (my wife is on her 3rd TP2) and I cant wait to get rid of it. I was a long time user of the Dell Axim X51v PDA which was the best PDA I have ever owned, so I have high hopes for this Dell if they will ever release it.
[Venue Pro General] sureloch:
There are however some downsides on the VP I am somewhat concerned about:

1) It uses the Gen 1 version of the Snapdragon processor which is 65nm process versus the MDC Snapdragon version the HD2/HD7 uses which is on the newer 45nm process. Battery usage is likely worse than the HD7, but VP has a bit larger battery.

2) It uses the Gen 1 Adreno GPU versus the revamped better performing Gen 2 Adreno GPU like the HD2/HD7

3) No cut and paste yet on Phone 7

4) No real multi-tasking support to speak of in phone 7

5) No support for mobile hotspot function in phone 7
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
It uses the exact same CPU as the HD7, actually. Meaning both devices use the Adreno 200.
[Venue Pro General] sureloch:
Thanks for the clarification, but just also realised it has no 4G support either.

Updated concerns about purchasing the Venue Pro:

1) It uses the Gen 1 version of the Snapdragon processor which is 65nm process versus the MDC Snapdragon which is on the newer 45nm process. Battery usage is likely not good.

2) It uses the Gen 1 Adreno GPU versus the revamped better performing Gen 2 Adreno GPU

3) No cut and paste yet on Phone 7

4) No real multi-tasking support to speak of in phone 7

5) No support for mobile hotspot function in phone 7

6) No 4G HSPA+ support
[Venue Pro General] Razorfold:
1) All current WP7 device uses that processor

2) See above

3) Coming Jan 2011

4) -

5) Not sure about this

6) HSPA+ isn't 4g...it's 3.5g...and not very many phones support it either. The only one on t-mobile's network that does is the G2.
[Venue Pro General] sureloch:
I understand, I am speaking about T-mobile's version of 4G speeds. Point is the internal hardware is not so cutting edge. Could be and should be better for $500-$600 shipped, should not be Gen 1 tech IMHO. Looks as if even the HTC 7 Pro is not going to be capable of "4G". WP7 is nice but it seems like it's capability to support the features many of us have come to expect is unknown. Starting to seem more like a risky purchase than a "next-gen" phone.
[Venue Pro General] quinstar:
Even though I'm very eager to get this phone too, I'm willing to wait a little longer... There's no point in buying a second choice since you'll be disappointed if the dvp is what you expected it to be when you see someone carrying it...

The launch is a disaster but I'm waiting for it :)

Patience is a virtue...
[Venue Pro General] Peew971:
Why are people who are tired to wait getting a HD7 or Focus? Don't you have the Omnia 7 in the US? :confused:

If we had the 16GB Omnia 7 in the UK I would have bought one already.
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
There's no Omnia 7 in the US. The US variant of the Omnia 7 is the Focus.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ogner:
Was hoping to find something like Torrent Fu.

Anyway I installed uView utorrent and FSSI Torrent 7 on a free trial. Couldn't get either to work. Then looked at uController but it needs some .net 4 program on my PC to work.

What the hell is going on. I'm not cheap. I will pay £1.99 for a torrent app that works with isohunt.com. Please help.

What about Torrent Remote and Torrential.

Maybe it's my fault.

In uView settings - Your Torrent host I entered my IP address.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ogner:
Sorry everyone. Its midnight here in London.

I was running utorrent 2.0.4. Normally it updates itself on startup. But this time it didn't update to 2.2. Got 2.2 now. Everything fine.

BTW what torrent app do you like?
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
Definitely uController. The service running on your PC makes it stand out above the others.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dgaust:
The service for uController is there to provide additional information above and beyond what you'd normally get with the uTorrent webUI.

Namely 'live' tile updates that show how many torrents are currently downloading (in the current build); and

A toast notification whenever a new torrent is added. You can restrict this this so it doesn't ding between certain hours (in the development build).

Admittedly being the developer of uController, I'm biased, but I think those two things make installing a small service on your PC an acceptable proposition.

uController doesn't allow the addition of torrents right now, but it's already implemented in development (via RSS feeds).
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ogner:
Can you just make a Fu Torrent clone? No PC software to install. Stop, remove, and pause of torrents. Search torrents available from Isohunt and TPB within the app. And of course add torrents.

This is all I'm asking for. But I'm willing to pay good money to someone who can deliver.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dgaust:
Sorry, i won't be doing it. I built this for my own uses, so I build it to suit my needs.

There are 3 other apps that might suit your needs.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
I thought they said the microsoft was going to allow torrent apps in wp7. Only apps allowed would be allowed to view your torrents, but not add new ones.
[Windows Phone 7 General] wheresmybeaver:
+1 for uController, the live tile works well and the service running on your main torrent pc isn't a big deal.

Looking forward to the update that will allow the adding of torrents from rss feeds. A question for the developer: does this mean you can view the rss feed and select the torrents you want? Is it the service app or the device app downloading the torrent?

Oh yeah, and two small cosmetic things; when you run the app the "connecting to xxx.xxx" message at the top is overlapping the uController title (it looks a little untidy), and the app doesn't remember which group of torrents you were looking at last time you ran the app (ie downloading, or seeding, or what have you), it always reverts to All Torrents (which is a bit slow when you have a lot of torrents).

Great so far though, you wouldn't know how often the other torrent apps are going to get updated but this one is on version 1.2 already.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dgaust:
Thanks for the comment :D

You view the RSS feed on the device, but the downloading is done on your PC. Nothing is downloaded on the device (given how small the storage is on some of them, and no background apps, it would be virtaully impossible anyway).

Yeah, I know. It is designed to mirror other apps that have the loading information across the top of the page, even if it overlaps with other information. Using the light theme it works better as it has a background tint... I might move it centrally like I have done with the RSS feed progress bars.

I haven't really thought about doing that, but I can add it as an option.

Great so far though, you wouldn't know how often the other torrent apps are going to get updated but this one is on version 1.2 already.[/QUOTE]

Thanks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dgaust:
v1.3 has hit the market place, you should see the update available soon. The major additions are the ability to add torrents and push notifications when a new torrent is added.

I relation to your enhancements.

I've tidied this up a bit by adding some chrome background to the text. I tried it in the middle of the page, but it looked worse. The chrome helps the untidiness I think.

I added this in, however there was some weird behaviour happening. It would work well on the All, Downloading and Paused pivots but would crash out with the stopped and seeding pivots. There is no obvious reason for it, so I had to take it out to do the release.

I'll try to nut it out.

1.4 was submitted this morning, but it's only a minor release that improves tombstoning support.
[Windows Phone 7 General] wheresmybeaver:
Grabbed the 1.3 update this morning and have been trying it out over lunch. I added some TV Show RSS feeds to the service app this morning before heading out, and I am happy to report that I can see these RSS feeds on my handset and add the torrents that I want from the feed. Works perfectly. I have also been able to set an upload limit for my torrents, great! If I can add one tiny suggestion, that each torrent in the RSS feed might also show the date it was added to the feed? Just in case I end up downloading an episode from a previous week if there was no new episode this week... or would it even be possible to have a * or some other indicator beside a feed that has a new torrent available? thanks

That looks much tidier indeed thanks! and the "loading torrents" dialogue is a great addition (it was tricky in previous releases to know if the app was busy or not)

Cheers for giving it a go, but actually this update makes torrents appear much faster at launch, so remembering the previous pivot isn't as much of a big deal IMO?

1.3 was a fantastic update thanks! But the toast notification for new torrents being added: how does this work? Does the RSS feature automatically add new torrents from the RSS feeds you've used previously and then send a notification?

By the way, I've rated the app on the marketplace but it looks like the marketplace reviews are segmented between regions. I'm in Ireland so there are only about a dozen ratings across the entire Marketplace! Bit of a bummer really since it's not possible to see rating and reviews from other regions.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dgaust:
Shouldn't be a problem to add the date. The feed should contain that information already, it's just a matter of putting it into the UI.

edit: Done.

Nice to hear. Basically it just works for any torrent added during the time period. It's mainly designed to capture torrents automatically added via the RSS function built into uTorrent. It doesn't use the feeds you've added into the client.

Thanks for the rating... there's only been two so far, so if you are lijuen it's shown up,
[Windows Phone 7 General] lekki:
Then can you provide clear instructions on how to use it as I can't get it to connect.

Do I configure my WebGUI in utorrent as well or what?
[Windows Phone 7 General] wheresmybeaver:
To get started, you really need to know how webUI in uTorrent works.

In essence, if you can get uTorrent and WebUI set up to the extent that you are able to:

(a) Access WebUI from any other computer on your home network

(b) Access WebUI from a computer outside your network via an external IP address. ie from your mobile phone, or a computer at work

...then you will have no trouble setting up uController. Bear in mind that all the uTorrent remote access apps on the marketplace will require that you can configure and setup WebUI. See this for instructions on getting set up.

Once that's done, and you can definitely connect to webUI, follow the instructions pdf for uController here and you'll be grand.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dgaust:
Yes, the service connects to the WebUI so it needs to be set up. Instructions are available and linked in the post above.

The pdf needs to be updated to take into account the features added since release, but the setup should be adequately explained. If you're having any specific problems, let me know.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kennyken747:
So we have some torrent apps... that says something about Marketplace approval and copywright issues. So where are the emulators?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sickbeats187:
Does anybody know if using cm6 is compatible with 4g? I've heard yes and no...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epersons:
Not capable of 4G at this time.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdh10475:
If you read the cm6 post under not working you will see 4G.

Sent from my pimp a$$ phone
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sickbeats187:
Yeah I saw that but like I said I heard yes and no