yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Android Development] ErMeglio:
Hey, really, I understand your point, but before saying this have you even started to read the thread I've indicated that has analyzed these apps?

I'll just copy-paste some of the facts I spoke about. Not error logs, as you say, it's way more.

Ok, I've tried up here to put in bold the logs that are/could not be considered error logs. Take a look at them, reading them seems to remind any other, perhaps more, action CIQ does.

Why CIQ is bad and more actions it does are not?

I would like to remind you that any of those actions could be simplified to be assimilated as usable for error logs.

CIQ said, oh, listening to all your messages is useful for finding specific keywords, we listen everything but we just discard the rest, believe me. Observing all the numbers you digit is useful so we can do actions when you digit some useful for our app to send info or do something else we could want it to do and instruct you to digit. We are reading all the applications you use, when, how, installation, uninstallation, time on a window, urls you digit, because these are all things useful for some carriers.

In short, what I want to say, it's you can't simplify like they did saying all these obtrusive actions all these apps are logging are for error logs because otherwise you admit you have no rights. That's more like beta-testing. Involves an agreement. YOU decide to give them all the info they could want, even if they are personal. They could really be ALL for error logs, but here they are too much OUR OWN PERSONAL CONTENT we could not want to report someone else that didn't even ask for. And we are speaking of a finished product, not a beta test of some newish product under development.

There's a line dividing facts you cannot loose the sight of . We've crossed it here and we've gone much further.

Or do you really want to believe giving them info about what app you launch, install, use and for how many time, how many times you click on a widget, how many mails you have, which special corrections you set with your keyboard, when/how many messages you send/receive, which are all your actions, contacts type, groups of contacts, when you open the market, mail, goog service, when you do a call and for how many time...all of these...are for debugging errors only, are you sure? Do you like to send all these crazy information about you to unknowns?

They're weird. You can't admit the contrary saying they're for error logs. You say I have to understand, I don't think so, they have to understand we could help if only they would ASK. I almost always say yes when a service I am confident with asks me to give help for some reasons. But I always HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE and decide on my own if the data I am sending are or are not something I am at ease with.

p.s. when flashing 6.3.1 I have super-wiped. So I don't understand how I am having those files and you are not. Hints?
[Desire HD Android Development] paulrh:
Do you have one of those invisibility cloaks that stops your every move being recorded by CCTV?
[Desire HD Android Development] pondikos:
mms.apk for Android Revolution 6.3.1 with Backup function

of Soshiyant v1.0 Rom , thanks to PVTEAM

mms.apk manually copying in system/app and set the permissions
[Desire HD Android Development] zelendel:
I told you I am running a custom version of the rom. So that may be the reason those files are not on my device. As for rights, dont get me started on that. Now I am not gonna hijack Mike's rom thread about this any more. I dont know how it is where you are but it has become common place here in the states. They scan your ID when you buy certain things which logs all your info, All those Store cards people use logs their info again and records everything you buy. With the new chips in phones For the US starting next year that will allow the gov to send you non opt outable sms messages that connect to your GPS chip and mic/speaker. Do I think alot of it is harmless? Yes I do. Am I worried about it overly? No cause if it is buy cellphone, ID scans, or a SSN number (wait didnt we go to war over the last guy that branded people with a number to keep track of them) the info will be gotten. Now lets get back on topis of the rom. If mike deems it an issue then I am sure he will remove what he can.
[Desire HD Android Development] idesign8088:
share the kink pls.....
[Desire HD Android Development] Maxxy13:
There are two that I know of.

First is the loss of sound profile, i.e. dolby, SRS or equalizer setup is not preserved when exit and return to the music app.

The second one is about loss of album context (position) when exiting and then returning to the music app. I.e. instead of track 7/50 it'd reset to 1/1.

Both issues seem to be fixed in the latest Lyapota's release.
[Desire HD Android Development] ErMeglio:
Didn't get this, but I always can see a way big warning when CCTV is active in a particular public place, and it's illegal not to show it.

Many of the things you describe are totally new to me, here there is, legally, a protection of your own privacy that is strong. I am not logged when I buy anything that is not army, for which I also would need an institutional permission before even trying to. I am logged of course using specific "client/point cards" in shops, but that's again my decision and I know they're done for this for the most. Anyway, this discussion can be endless and way philosophical too, so I agree with you to stop it here.

But, since this is a historical characteristic of this ROM I only would like Mike or someone of the team to go deeper deleting the included logging usage stats event logging and so on by HTC and Google. There's not a whole study to do too, ways and techniques are already well documented in the thread I've linked and are understandable at the level of source code, so they are probably harmless ;)

In the meantime, can I ask you what are your customizations right now that as you say made you obtain having none of the logging stuff :rolleyes:
[Desire HD Android Development] Nubzori:
Doesnt rom cleaner remove that HTC stuff? Idk

Sent from Destiny
[Desire HD Android Development] zelendel:
I used a combo of the no sense script and my own app removal. I remove a ton of apps that I personally don't use. I don't do social networking for any anything so Facebook, twitter ect are all removed. I also remove all navagation apps as I don't use those either. If you would like so not to clutter up the thread I can show you a pic of my ID by PM which on the back of it is a bar code which has to be scanned to purchase certain things anywhere in town and if you refuse to let them scan it then they refuse to sell you anything at all.
[Desire HD Android Development] Honusnap:
Pretty the same thing for me... Mike's rom "naked" version .. :D, no facebook, tweeter, friendstream ... Googlebackup, google search... even the music application has been deleted, PlayerPro is better for me. I'm stripping the Rom's zip right before flashing.. take less than 45 seconds.. :)

Well in my country we can always buy things with cash... cash means no ID, that's what i do in general cause i like feeling cash in my hands.. ;)

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Not all...
[Desire HD Android Development] Nokiacrazi:
I have a feeling that the next ARHD to be released will be 7.x.x :D
[Desire HD Android Development] ViDtje:
I think it will be 6.3.2 with a new kernel :D
[Desire HD Android Development] andreasy:
It couldn't and it shouldn't at this point of time.
[Desire HD Android Development] Vessarius:
Maybe at Christmas mike will release 7.x.x with sense 3.5, but as I remember, not as the main version. So still waiting :D.
[Desire HD Android Development] mjehan:
I upgraded to the latest version of the O/C Daemon (3.3 beta2). Will the old setting be implemented ? And does this automatically control the CPU clock or do I need to configure ?
[Desire HD Android Development] adrianyujs:
not so fast.... Ken said next week he will cook kernel... He not free...
[Desire HD Android Development] ViDtje:
I know, but I think Mike will wait for that kernel :)
[Desire HD Android Development] adrianyujs:
Yup... after kernel released he will include tat new kernel... probably next week will release updated rom ^^
[Desire HD Android Development] roboprint:
Old Settings( brother of Winnetou :) ) should be implemented after upgrade.

O/C Daemon will manage your CPU..... according to your settings :)
[Desire HD Android Development] aber82:
with this new daemon controller i can´t change oc settings anymore.

apply says : changes successfully applied. but after exiting , they are back stock (1,15 ghz)

uv work fine.

edit: i am on arhd 6.3.1 , sperwiped etc.
[Desire HD Android Development] ShadowPony:
what old settings?

yes, it automatically controls the CPU because virtuous_oc daemon is already integrated in ROM

with DC you can adjust the setting: which governor and the min and max frequencies for wake and sleep
[Desire HD Android Development] roboprint:
Old Settings - Probably from the previous version of Daemon Controller 3.3 beta 1 :)
[Desire HD Android Development] mjehan:
the old settings that came with the ROM
[Desire HD Android Development] svyat:
Actually, that is not true anymore. Now you can use the automatic patcher script to create a patch for your ROM after you have installed all your add-ons and they won't be removed by flashing PDroid ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] sigurd_LU:
I included the latest/final musicbox from lyapota (as always, big thanks to him) in my theme and just uploaded the new version. Enjoy!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1258453

EDIT: I also added a lower autobrightness mod that can be found unter the addon section.
[Desire HD Android Development] mjehan:
How to get rid of this awful popping noise ? Is this a known issue ?
[Desire HD Android Development] zla.mas:
What happened with the talk about 6.3.2 ?
[Desire HD Android Development] adrianyujs:
that is kernel issue... waiting kernel expert to cook it....

latest just released by HTC and need to take time to cook it, will be available after 1-2 week.. just be patient...

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no need talk so much... we all know wat it will be... we used to it already... Just be natural and let mike decide it.
[Desire HD Android Development] andreasy:
What's the big hurry for this. It will mainly contain updated apps which we do update anyway. You should expect the new kernel instead. Don't worry about newer ROM because there are no issues to resolve.
[Desire HD Android Development] BigBirds:
except for the speaker "pop" sound, but that's a kernel issue :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Wacco001:
... Sharing is Caring ...

For all you Flash'A'Holics who would like to try the latest lordmodNCTeam-5.0-CFS-b4 kernel ... it's available here :)

Cheers,
[Desire HD Android Development] Cristianop:
Thxxx ill give it a try. Im still on 4.0.
[Desire HD Android Development] adrianyujs:
haha anyone can confirm the pop sound issue resolved?
[Desire HD Android Development] sigurd_LU:
Nope, it's still there.
[Desire HD Android Development] high_voltage:
Hi all. I want to ask you 2 questions:

1. How is 6.3.1 compared to 5.1.11/5.2.6 in terms of pure speed in 3d applications, UI, browsing?

2. In 5.2.X kernel there where problems with phone heating too much. Believe me, I don't make that one up(it was discussed here in the beginning of the new kernel use). When I switched back again to 5.1.11... much colder phone(with is good thing after all) + my phone is rock solid stable@1.46GHz, while on 5.2.X kernel it's not even close to stable on that freq. I changed lordmod kernel on 5.2.6, but the kernel frequency scaling was messed up. How is the new version of the kernel in terms of overclocking stability?

Also I will use the moment to thanks ARHD team once again for their development. Thanks guys! :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Patrics83:
I don't have pop sound on v5.0 b3. :D

Will flash it now.. BRB ;)

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] sigurd_LU:
1. Just backup your current rom and try it out ;)

2: There's no need to overclock that high, imho. 1 GHz is enough for the rom to be smooth.
[Desire HD Android Development] Apologize1986:
how can i get a mod just for signal strenth? like the one for battery%, but with signal dbm.
[Desire HD Android Development] sigurd_LU:
Try it with Facebook messenger. Pull down the message list for refreshing, and I'm sure you'll hear the "pop sound".
[Desire HD Android Development] Patrics83:
Well I still don't have a "pop sound" with latest lordmod kernel.

This pop sound can be heard even when you set "mute", change ring volume using volume rocker and you will hear it.

There is a notification sound for Facebook ;) and it is a pop sound :p but the pop sound I and many other's can hear is not even close to that.

Facebook notification sound - http://db.tt/oBGQ6fCV

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] Wacco001:
Must be one of these weird hardware related issues ..

Just tried it with and without my headphones, no "pop" click at all ... :)

Please don't ask why, because I have no clue anymore, but here I have no issue ...

FYI:

I am still not using any Theme, MOD(s) or scripts, just a Super Wiped ARHD 6.3.1 ROM DHD device while testing this ...

Cheers,

EDIT:

Yes, I also tried FB message refreshing, still no "pop" here ... :o
[Desire HD Android Development] high_voltage:
I am sure someone has tested it already/noticed the difference in speed. As for the second part: fpse thinks otherwise, tho all the things are smoother/faster. :)

Edit: Also: Wacco001 y u no answer me?! :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Apologize1986:
If i put 0.5 Ghz, may i save 50% battery life?
[Desire HD Android Development] Wolf:
You might, but you will have to see how the phone performs and responds. It may be too slow for certain tasks.
[Desire HD Android Development] ralphclark:
If I remember my physics correctly, energy is proportional to the square of the frequency. So cutting the frequency down to half of what it was should actually reduce energy consumption to one-quarter. However some apps may run too slowly. The first generation of android phones (e.g. the lovely old G1) topped out at about 500Mhz and its a bit of a struggle running modern android apps on those phones now.
[Desire HD Android Development] Apologize1986:
During day time, i use only phone call and sms. You mean I can put my phone to .5HHz.
[Desire HD Android Development] Wacco001:
ATM I am not testing how high I can overclock, my device runs perfect! for me with the settings I have. (In fact, I'm even underclocking, focussing on better (= less) bat. drain!)) :)

Everything I want to use runs smooth as silk and rock stable .. !! (UI, browsing, movies, music, Sat. Nav. etc. (and even the few games I like (Random Mahjong, Chess, Jewels etc))

But ... why not test things yourself? Backup, and test ...
[Desire HD Android Development] zla.mas:
Just install from zip in recovery ?

Curent: ARHD 6.3.1. + CRT, XL settings, MusicBox 2

Thanks
[Desire HD Android Development] kiorio:
Hello guys. In the Russian localization firmware defects are present (HTC does not please us.)

Such a problem ....

The guys who deal with mods to fix this PLEASE. (if possible)
[Desire HD Android Development] Wolf:
You can clock it to whatever you want, but how the phone reacts can only be determined through testing. The best way would be to use one of Killersloth's UV scripts which will undervolt and set your CPU speed automatically depending on usage. These scripts will help with battery life. Use the script for the kernel you have. Descriptions are in the thread. Flash in recovery.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1305228
[Desire HD Android Development] craacK:
ROM Cleaner v3.3 - 2011-12-17

-Added more application names because ARHD ROMs will have different App names in the future.

Backup Tool v1.3

-Same changes as above ^^

Highly recommended update for ARHD users.

ROM Cleaner DHD Thread

Enjoy! :D
[Desire HD Android Development] high_voltage:
You will, yes. When you use your phone, your cpu will drain less power.

Mmm, no. The power consumption is relevant to the voltage, not the frequency. ;)

Lazy mother f*cker I guess, because I need to change radio too... etc :<.
[Desire HD Android Development] Saluco:
WOOOWWWW

WACCOO HAS TIME FOR GAMES...this man can actually do something else on PC/DHD than advice us all day long :D :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Whiskey103:
Yeah, it's a Dutch thing :D

Also, where is your Christmas decorations? :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Saluco:
Wacco took it ....to play "games" with my Positronic Christmas Girl :D :D :D

EDIT :

TNAAA NAA....I AM A CHRISTMAS DROID :D :D :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Maxolomeus:
Okay guys,

I'm using ARHD for quite a while now (last year) and I'm facing a problem at the moment I can't fix on my own.

I had a problem with my MMS on 5.1.3 which was unfixable. So I used the opportunity to update to 6.3.1 and after a fresh install with super wipe I can send and receive a MMS with my carrier vodafone.

Nothing else is installed on the phone. After a normal restart I can't send and receive MMS anymore, but nothing changed within the APNs. I tried also different APN Backup programms and repeated this procedure with full wipe and send a MMS a few times (the whole day to be honest). It's everytime the same, so for me it is an rom-related error. After a restart MMS isn't working anymore (network error). What happens within the system during a normal reboot?

€dit

Some testing later.. I can send myself a MMS with Handcent (was a try, because I never used it before) but not with the normal SMS/MMS App. Strange but true.

Maybe Mike, you can add this point to your FAQ as a possibe solution. Because this MMS issue is well known to german Vodafone support. I would like to know what Handcent does different than the normal app
[Desire HD Android Development] Super-Veloce:
question for the Dutch people here with Vodafone

I live in Eindhoven and go out in weekend @ Stratum

I got a good signal with good internet, but when I go in clubs/pubs.. I got bad signal, 3G/G and WhatsApp/Facebook works terrible..

Now using the newest radio+ril, that came with this new base, gonna test it tonight..

But wondering what your experiences are?
[Desire HD Android Development] BigBirds:
question: is it just me or the new Google Maps app is much slower than the 5.x ones?

seems like the device can't handle it well and it's much slower than before.

(for example when zooming in\out)
[Desire HD Android Development] Honusnap:
YOOuuuuu Thanks.. :)

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Nope ... cause it will took twice the time to make the job done .. :D, voltage is lower but screen will stay on for a longer time... result... not a big difference

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And choosing 1Ghz do not mean your phone is ALWAYS at 1Ghz, it's the maximum it can reach... the governor is there to lower frequency when it is needed... or to increase it... depending how you want to see it.
[Desire HD Android Development] Wacco001:
Forgot them at the beach ... :D

HoHoHo
[Desire HD Android Development] MultiMartin:
I'm getting a lot of force closures too. Sense seems to crash a lot. Just been listening so music and all of a sudden the music stopped and the white HTC screen appeared.
[Desire HD Android Development] Wacco001:
Just installed 4 games to help me pass some time during some coming trips .. :)

HoHoHo,
[Desire HD Android Development] Honusnap:
Nope ...

Power = c*f*V^2

f = frequency

c = capacitance

V = Voltage

=>

1.075Ghz at 1.025V gave a factor of : 1.13

0.122Ghz at 0.800V gave a factor of : 0,08

So your processor at 0.122Ghz consumes 14.125x less than at 1.075Ghz... BUT it is also 8.8x slower...
[Desire HD Android Development] Wacco001:
Not one single FC here ... ;)

Did you Super Wipe before you installed 6.3.1 ?

Are you even running ARHD 6.3.1?

Are you OverClocking, UnderClocking, OverVolting, UnderVolting, using some scripts, MODs, Themes ?

Why don't you give more info about your setup/settings before posting about Force Closes ... ;) That way others might help you with some useful suggestions ... :)

Cheers,
[Desire HD Android Development] MultiMartin:
- I always Super Wipe before flashing new roms

- Running ARHD 6.1.3 with recommended radio

- No overclocking, underclocking or overvolting

- No scripts

- Only mod is the MusicBox with Beats add on but had force closures before flashing this

I tried reflashing the ROM. Also tried fixing permissions on the SD card but still Sense crashes frequent with normal use.
[Desire HD Android Development] sigurd_LU:
Have you restored any system settings with Titanium backup? That's the only reason for the FC that's comes to my mind now..
[Desire HD Android Development] MultiMartin:
Yes I think I may have restored some with Titanium and MyBackup Pro.
[Desire HD Android Development] sigurd_LU:
Then I'd recommend you to superwipe again, and restory only apps + their data, but nothing related to the system. This should resolve your FC issues.
[Desire HD Android Development] ShadowPony:
restoring the Home Screen with MyBackup Pro sometimes leads to problems

restoring setting from one base to another = always trouble for me
[Desire HD Android Development] MultiMartin:
Thanks, had trouble restoring the home screen in the past so avoided that but I did restore WiFi settings with Titanium and 'System Settings' with MyBackup Pro. This must be the problem. Will wait until the release of 6.3.2 and Super Wipe again!

Thanks again for the advice!
[Desire HD Android Development] Saluco:
mannn..seee if your are playing so much..instead of skinny bones you got fat....but you got an amazing beard :D

after the Hollydays ill send you an invite to a Gym...SANTA WACCO

you are a to Great Guy (honestly...no irony) to be left to die because of Cholesterol (ofc...this is all about the avatar....this is for "the others" who think i have something with you :D :D :P)
[Desire HD Android Development] hamdir:
this is the first time I've installed lyapota music box on 6.3.1 and I strongly advice those who use the inbox cheap headsets to use this mod, SRS base and quality is just amazing after this mod, a lot better then beats

I can't believe HTC broke the SRS feature with this OTA, they broke an advertised feature stamped on our phone, that we paid for

but that's what XDA all about :) to fix whats broken, thank you lyapota for this amazing work, I have only one comment when I first start the music player andhit play it freezes for a while
[Desire HD Android Development] Wacco001:
:D Dr. Saluco, I'm not that old, bearded and fat, but thanks for caring... :p
[Desire HD Android Development] high_voltage:
Last time I checked: P=U*I
[Desire HD Android Development] Saluco:
I know, i know, but if i would say this form 1st time would i be Saluco anymore ??? (I hope.my english is right :P)

Send from my DHD using Monocytes, Macrophages and Natural Killer cells :D
[Desire HD Android Development] tomkulaga:
Thats static power disspiation, he was referring to the power dissippated by the dynamic swithing of the logic gates, hence the frequency component.

The more capacitance on the output of a gate, the larger current is necessary to drive it at a certain frequency hence the higher power. Now if you do not provide enough voltage (undervolting), the current source elements do not provide the necessary current and the gates are not driven properly hence your phone behaves unpredictably.

The capactiance associated with each indivudal chip is different and has variations from chip to chip, hence why different chips can handle different UV.

my 2 cents