yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gregrunt:
What resolution of wallpaper should i be looking for? I've done some searching and I've gotten a fair amount of people saying 960x800 (err maybe 960x600, i dont remember) and others saying 640x480. Is there any official consensus on this matter? I dont want to download a ton of wallpapers and have them get unnecessarily cut off or anything. Thanks in advance.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ddgarcia05:
960x800 worked best for me. i used gimp to resize my pictures then transfer them to my sdcard. gimp is free and youtube shows you how to resize your pictures using gimp.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Why was this thread closed?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=834623

Usually when a mod closes it they always have the last post and have some sort of explanation as to why it is closed.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CheesyNutz:
MOD EDIT: Removed link requiring registration to download, per rule 11

read much ?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
It looks like they were looking for a reason to shut him down out of some spite.

Secondly you don't have to post a smart ass comment. I understand you're shielded behind your monitor and keyboard but that doesn't mean you have to act like a jerk.

There are plenty of ROM threads with members posting stuff they shouldn't have posted. They could have simply edited the offenders post or did a temporary ban. Anyone else care to chime in?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nebenezer:
I didn't know the thread got closed but I think its appropriate to do so.

Leaving past drama in the past I still think its wrong for someone to post a link/thread on XDA that intends to direct traffic away from XDA, requiring registration on another website in order to enjoy the author's work. If DD wanted to be part of the XDA community then he should post and, to some degree, support his work ON XDA.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nukedukem:
I don't care wether or not his thread was shut down. I just thought the whole thing was a little shady - some guy comes out of nowhere to offer this amazing thing that this other guy has, but you can only have it if you come into the alley with him because he can't show you in the light.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phatmanxxl:
That thread was hijacked with bickering back and fourth anyway.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scev5:
lmao......
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockky:
So what... the Rom rocked.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
Just register at his forum, that's what I did. I have been running the rom since day one and it is the best rom I think I have ever used. There are a few bugs here but I use it everyday and love it. Google search "the ultimate droid evo" and it's the first link.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
I didn't see anyone actually answer your question.. the second time the thread was closed was because the rom contains swype.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxfire05:
LMAO! Thats too funny! Makes sense...(no pun)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
...and now the 2.1 thread has been locked in the EVO forum. Yet, identical threads in the Desire and Motorola forums are still open. Mod(s) please explain this?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Are you freaking kidding me! I just went to the development section and the thread is gone. This is getting really stupid.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bwcorvus:
It was shut down the first time because it linked another sign up site to download it. Second time because it included warez. Third time, may have been due to warez(ex fancy widgets) or maybe even because of the $2 monthly fee for nighties. Hell it may have just been to all the crying the tread seem to bring.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
Here is where the thread was.. xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=849986 which now the link redirects you to the "Forum & Marketplace Rules". It was stated in the subject line that the thread was not in compliance with #8

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8. Donations.

We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.

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Here is the currently still open thread in the Desire forum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=849992 which is an exact copy of the page which was locked.

This is getting ridiculous....

The cached link: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...wthread.php?t=849986&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

So let me get this right... because the OP posted "If you like this ROM and would like to help further development:PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE DEVELOPER! A donation link can be found HERE" outside of his/her signature this caused the thread to get locked and it's not even the OP's rom??? Not sure I understand how #8 even applies to the thread since the rom wasn't the OP's and he was trying to stay in compliance with rule #12

I mean com'on it's not like the OP hacked a phone (which is illegal), stole the the UI off the phone aka: "porting" (like HTC Sense, Acer Liquid, or etc which ARE NOT open source therefore "illegal" as they are covered by copyright as stated in you HTC Sense software menu>settings>about phone>legal information>HTC legal>

Which means nearly EVERY developer here is direct violation of rule #6 ("Do not post warez") of the site unless someone has posted a copy of the authorization from HTC to redistribute their software. Yes, I use custom ported roms like most of xda, and I fully support advancing development of the mobile platform. My lack of understanding is not over this, but over nitpicking "some" developers and using rules when it fits ones specific agenda. Whatever agenda that might be. I am not here to start a war with admins or mods, but to get a more clear understanding of intent. It seems not only unclear to myself but to others as well. Thanks John
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CheesyNutz:
2$ monthly fee HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what bullsh*t is that
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SteelH:
That's all this thread is as well.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
they did the same thing to kingklick. :mad:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
It's favoritism, that's all.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bronxknight28:
if my memory serves me right XDA has some kind of right to host Sense roms with all the Sense things , someone made that argument before.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
If they do that's cool. I love to see manufacturers working hand-in-hand with communities such as xda. You know most people doesn't know that the Unrevolked team actually reported the first exploit (which is how they gained root) on the HTC EVO to the Android Security team. This exploit was fixed in the following update which broke root, and that is why. What better way to improve on your software than actually listening to their consumers. :)

I am not really trying to get into talking about all of the legalities like Microsoft's take down request back in '07 or HTC's at the beginning of this year regarding conflipper.. but rather an equal level of moderation across the board. As I pointed out the same exact post is still up and running in the Desire forum, also by the same OP, as was posted in the EVO forum. And for the life of me I just cannot seem to understand why Rule #8 would even be applied to one, but not the other. In addition as I also stated, how does this rule even apply? I feel the OP and B.D. have shown their willingness to try to cooperate with the request of xda (Complaint 1. Linking to rom requiring registration on another site 2. Rom contained warez, "swype").

To correct my previous statement: As of the end of July 2010 "Rooting is NOT illegal" per the National Register of Copyrights. Rooting voids your warranty, but is not illegal. However, what you do with the software on the phone becomes a whole other matter.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
:rolleyes: So this is the same unrevoked team that says "At this time, we are not disclosing the vulnerability we have exploited to unlock the NAND flash. ... Releasing the source code for this, we believe, would compromise the greater ability to unlock devices like these in the future. Given the choice between sacrificing the liberty of running code on our handsets and the liberty of reading the code by which we unlock it, we feel that the millions of handsets are more important. It is unfortunate that we must make such a choice, and we look forward to the day in the future that no such decision need be made."

That is from the unrevoked 3 page that doesn't work with the new phones. lol

Edit: I didn't get to try the ROM but I think XDA got a letter about Swype before and that's why they can't have links for it posted here.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked1_disclosure

According to this, yes, the Unrevolked team reported the this vulnerability.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
It is clearly BIAS on the part if the mods. They cite Rule 8 as the reason for the shut down. That being the fact it was discussed (by users not the developer) that you could get access to the nightlies for $2.

Is this a technical violation of Rule 8? Yes. Do other developers violate this rule BLATANTLY without getting shut down. Yes as well.

In order to have access to Myn's betas you MUST contribute $5. That is a CLEAR violation of Rule 8. Was Myn shut down? No.

So its basically political BS. Stuff like this damages the forum's credibility.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
i doubt that's true.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fixxxer2008:
what? to my understanding that's what happened.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
kingclick also took a ROM many people helped to port and tried to charge people to use it as if it was all his doing... among other stuff
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coldsweat:
False

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
No, this is absolutely true and can be seen mentioned many many many times throughout his thread. Your statement that this is false is either an outright lie on your part or you just don't know what you are talking about.

As a matter of fact, I saw an instance where someone posted a link to a beta mirror they set up for Myn RLS4 and they were roundly excoriated for offering it up for free. The link was taken down.

The way it works with Myn is that you donate to him and then (and only then) Myn sends you a link to his beta. If you just request the beta without donating you will NOT receive the link. Period.

Myn's RC's = free

Myn's Betas = not free
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
Ugh people get a clue!

UD is not charging for use of their rom ... period. The $2 charge is for access to nightlies which are experimental in nature and for enthusiasts only.

The developer NEVER mentioned this himself in the xda forum - it was only mentioned by his satisfied users as a way to help out those who wanted better access to the latest and greatest from the rom.

"But Cyanogen doesn't charge for his nightlies" you might say. Yeah, and he also provides ZERO documentation with them. In other words, you have NO idea what you are getting. On the other hand, UD supplies a complete Changelog for each nightly as well as an opportunity to report broken files easily.

** P.S., I have no personal or business connection with Blackdroid or UD. I am simply a very satisfied user who hates political bs and the banning of the UD thread is political bs.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
Ditto, these are my thoughts as well. There is a difference between selling a product vs access to a product thru a service or membership. I live 4 miles from the ocean and I have to pay a water bill. Can you believe that crap!?!? LOL And on top of that unless you are a resident in this county (in most places) you have to pay for beach access. Morals is one thing and Rules or Laws is another. Morally I wouldn't charge (and don't) charge for any of my knowledge regarding things I consider a hobby, simply because I enjoy helping people and I enjoy doing it. Legally it's my choice to charge for these services, and it's your choice to render my services or not. I believe if one wants to charge for their services "outside" of xda and that service includes certain privilages, that's their business as long as they (the developer) is not advertising it on xda.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
A MOD needs to man up and reply to this thread with an explanation.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
I would like a better understanding as well since there might be something that I am totally missing, idunno.. It's not worth possibly getting banned over tho. I have seen you contribute a lot to the community also and would like to keep it that way. lol :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Genjinaro:
OT: The tags on this thread are hilarious LOL!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rugedraw:
I disagree. Myn does provide BETA releases to his donors, and encourages feedback so he can fix any bugs before he releases it to the masses.

Regardless of whether I'm right or not, Fresh roms work the same way. Donors get the early releases for new versions.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halorin:
Damageless has the same thing for his betas. It's clearly political, them keeping UD out. It's still the best rom I've ever used, and I know how to get it, so their childish favoritism is worthless.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jbcarrera:
OOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKAAAAYYYY???? How can you disagree and agree at the same time thats like saying you hate ice cream while your eating a big ass bowl of it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
Lol, I was thinking the exact same thing. He says he disagrees with my claim that Myn requires donations for access to his betas, then goes on to completely agree with me!

Lol, kinda made me laugh.

"I disagree that the sky is blue because it is obviously blue..."
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PodCulture:
I may get flamed for this but oh well. I think UD is one damn shiny rom. (and yes I have made a donation)

I fail to see what is wrong with charging or asking for a donation for betas or nightly versions so long as the actual main release is free. Folks put in time working on them, so they SHOULD get something for it.

This back -and -forth petty bickering about these threads on UD is stupid.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
So if you donate to the developer, then you are allowed to get access to special pre-released roms. But if you pay a membership fee to the developer, this is a direct violation of rule #8 by the mods and admin of XDA. Is my understanding correct? This can't be the case as to why UD's thread was "redirected but not locked". It must have have been because the OP didn't put the donation link to U.D. in his signature...

If anyone wants to put a link to donate to me in their signature, I'm cool with that! lol :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halorin:
My bottom line is is that I don't blame the devs or the community for not liking the shady past that went on with UD. But I expected more integrity from the mods of this site. I'd rather they straight up say his work is banned rather bend their own rules and think we're too stupid to notice.

From what I've seen, UD credits anyone who had a hand in the rom's development, and he only asks for a subscription for early releases / nightlies. Plenty of other developers on here have the same setup, so it stands to reason that bias alone is why threads about UD get banned.

It's a shame, and it speaks to the character of the mods far more than UD's reformed approach to crediting sources and blurring the line of donation and buying that plenty of other devs cross that aren't punished.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
Is there a history with Blackdroid aka: "The Ultimate Droid"? If so I agree with using caution and keeping a "tight leash" so things do not get out of hand, but like you said let's call it for what it is. :) Excellent post sir.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halorin:
Thanks!

As I understand it, previously blackdroid had claimed to not use any of CyanogenMod for his ROMs, and that was later proved differently by examing some code from both ROMs. I saw some posts cyanogen himself made regarding the issue, but I wasn't around as it happened back then.

I just know now that the last two releases I've seen seem to credit everyone involved (cyanogen himself included), and that blackdroid seemed apologetic about the whole thing in one of threads about 2.0.0 that has since been locked and deleted.

You may want to do your own research, though. That's just my summation of what I did to look into the issue, but I may be missing pieces.

Opinions of character aside, UD is a fine ROM that's properly credited, and I think blackdroid's use of the word subscription in place of donation for early releases is a flimsy and laughable excuse to lock threads based on the UD team's work.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CheesyNutz:
2 dollar monthly fee is a laughable and i bet that is why his topic was closed

but that's just my opinion

i see nothing wrong for 1 time donation but over and over and over ... yea pass
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rugedraw:
lol.....I see where my post is contradictory to myself. That didn't come out the way I wanted it to. What I meant is:

Yes, Myn (as do other rom devs) release new versions of their roms to their donors before they release it to the masses.

However, in this case, the OP of the thread in question was directing traffic away from this site and asking for members here to register somewhere else in order to be able to download his work. Myn nor Flipz is doing anything remotely close to this. I donated to Myn when he released his Warm RLS1 without even knowing I would be getting early releases of his updated roms. When he sent me the link for RLS4 a short while ago, I gave him feedback about a few things I had problems with or questions about. He responded immediately and said he would take my observations into account when he released it to everyone else. I think it is good to release the roms to select group for testing before a mass release.

I meant that I disagree with Myn's releasing his updated roms to donors is the same as what was going on with the thread in question.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halorin:
I, for the most part, agree but he's still offering the actual releases without charging. 2 dollars monthly is a pittance of an amount to contribute to a ROM that substantially increases your enjoyment of your phone, especially considering there's a detailed changelog with every release to let you know what you're getting yourself into.

I'm okay with developers asking for a donation for early releases, because I can't imagine how much time they spend coding and working on these roms. The way I've seen people treat developers, I would keep my work to myself personally, so I appreciate them putting their work out. We owe them nothing, and I feel like people forget that.

But I come from the days of Windows Mobile 5 and custom ROMs making my phone run close to 4 times faster because of the blood, sweat, and tears people poured into ROMs.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
I agree. I like you guys but not enough add you to my list of monthly bills. lol I already have a wife and son to support much less a stranger. :) But for me its not really about the money but the principle.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I have never payed a subscription fee because I try to stay away from nightly ROM updates. People on this website are so narrow-minded and selfish. I've seen threads where people complain and curse a ROM and expect top class support on something that was free.

These people don't have to do this and do this as a hobby. They make their own websites so people can come and give feedback on their ROM's. It cost money to run a website and maintain it all while working to cater thousands.

My argument is that when a thread is closed a MOD comes in and has the last word. It's getting annoying to see his ROM thread get closed. It's almost as if they think we would wake up one day and not notice it was gone/redirected/closed.

I can honestly say, in my opinion that this ROM is the best ROM out there.

@ CheesyNutz

We understand that you don't want to pay the $2 monthly fee. You aren't forced to do it so stop whining about it. That's all I ever read from you regarding this topic. Troll much?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CheesyNutz:
hmm this is and OPEN forum and i stated my opinion nothing more sorry your butt hurt that the thread got closed deal with it and move on simple enough to run over to the makers site . OH and i would tell you that to your face
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
Too bad that the mods closed the thread. UD 2.1.0 is BY FAR the fastest, most feature-filled AOSP rom period. I mean you can tweak EVERYTHING with this rom. It's like he took Cyanogen and made it what Cyanogen should be from a user-friendliness standpoint.

If the mods here want to play games I don't care. I am just glad I learned about this AWESOME rom here.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I highly doubt that you would. Go troll somewhere else.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beatblaster:
All you fellas are putting way too much effort into issues you cannot and will not ever be able to change. If you don't like the way the mods run XDA just leave and never come back. Problem solved. As I stated on Twitter XDA is not a democracy. You don't get a say and that's that. Period. Finito. The end.

I accept my "non-mod" position and am simply happy places like XDA even exist otherwise I'd have nowhere to get my geek on.

Have a nice day :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thisjustin:
Haters gonna hate

Edit: still running the ultimate droid, havent paid a cent for it and is by far the best rom I have ever used.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kraenesk:
Question: isn't it kinda counter to the mods intentions when they close/lock a thread if you just open another. Even if they closed the thread over rule 8. It still had two paid apps in fancy Widgets and landed nexus live wallpaper in it. Eben though swype was removed. So it still had warez. And it took you to a link right next to a completely working 2.0 version that has it still. The Rom is nicely done and does work well, I am not disputing that. But I am thinking xda is smart in taking it down. Why are you all complaining so much. You can still get the Rom from his site. You still get support from there. All you are accomplishing is making drama/soap opera out of it. My suggestion is hussy respect the xda mods decision. Or if you have a problem worth it send them a pm.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neckface:
Agreed.

The ROM still contained warez, and should've been removed a while ago. Even though they removed it for rule number eight, it had to go either way.

UD is great because of Cyanogenmod, all it really has to offer is some scripts accessible in the UD settings and a pretty theme.

Not to take away from either ROM's, but it is what it is.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firsttimer44:
He really should start posting his ROMS on this site and not force people to register on his own website. I honestly think he has a top 3 if not the best EVO ROM out there. Sure it's a rip off of CM6, but it takes CM6 and adds some very nice twists to it. I enjoy the heck out of it.