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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Com.Chakotey:
Ok my failure....i mean UNLOCK with Trackpad :D is not possible?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MrEzzzkiel:
Nope.... At least not yet...

sent from my dz virtuous 2.0 with xda premium
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neko Koneko:
After installing this rom I can't boot into clockwork recovery anymore. It just hangs at the HTC logo when I choose to boot into recovery (either from the Rom Manager or from the bootloader). Any suggestions what I can do?

edit: Now it won't boot anymore at all. Attempting to install Cyanogenmod through the bootmanager from SD-card...

Edit2: Failed. So I'm stuck with this rom without the ability to reset the phone to factory defaults or install any other rom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
It did that a couple of times to me. All I did was pull the battery, and put it back in. It shouldn't occur constantly though. Going into recovery worked multiple times on this ROM.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neko Koneko:
Tried that several times, it just won't start.

Is there any rom that I can install from the SD-card? Cyanogenmod keeps saying invalid ZIP.

My phone is pretty much bricked right now except for the bootloader that still does something.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kkinder:
BUG: Has anyone noticed that the long-press alternatives on the physical keyboard don't work on Virtuous Sense 2?

For example, on the stock ROM keyboard, you can long-press alt+K to get symbols like >, ], }, etc. On the Virtuous Sense 2 ROM, you just get an asterisks.

There are also some mis-matches. long-press alt+z gives you an underscore, which is actually the alternative character on the "C" key.

Finally alt+space is supposed to give you a symbols menu, but brings up keyboard settings instead.

EDIT: This is with a T-Mobile G2.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
I'm guessing you have a G2. On my DZ I am unable to reproduce any of those issues.

I'm guessing that because of the slighly different keyboard layouts it must mess a few thing ups
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kkinder:
Sorry, yes, it's a T-Mobile G2.

I thought except for www./.com, it was the same.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
You would need to press alt-www./.com key to get the symbols

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kkinder:
Ah, that does work and will really satisfy my day-to-day use.

Though does anyone know what a hack would be on re-mapping the long-press menus for the keys? It would still be nice.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crazyC:
I really love this rom. Have made a nandroid and deleted all previous ones as this is a keeper.

Mods so far:

Sense Unity V4 kernel

Battery mod and new font with UOT kitchen

Boot animation changed with Absolute System

Overclocking via CPU tuner

Sense 3.0 lockscreen and weather (and messaging as it comes with it)

CjWard23 fix to remove recent programs from notification pulldown

Things I would still like:

Camera from Sense 3.0 with panoramic option (the one from Insertcoin is good)

Trackpad sleep to go with the existing trackpad lock - very useful if in car

Media volume and brightness control on quicklink pulldown
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
I have the camera from insertcoin, it works great! I deleted the one that was on virtuous already, grabed the HTCCamera.apk from Insertcoin and pushed it to system/app/...don't forget to reboot =]
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
Does the panoramic option in the camera force close it when using it?

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Yea..Just tried it..does it on the second picture I'll see if it's in Insertcoin too
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
i tried it with the unity camera. just like yours, the second pic causes the force close
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Maybe we're missing a file to go with it I'm going to replace some libraries to see
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mreeekay:
anyway to get the camera from the doubleshot rom?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] stumpyz9:
I think they put it in, I was using the panorama earlier. If no t I know someone already requested it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crazyC:
When I was on insertcoin it worked ok. I tried the same way as you but got the force close issue.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] monomer888:
Just a quick note that if Panorama is the only thing you're after, the Sense 3 camera from Seo's thread works for that. It's "Sense3_Camera-0.12.zip" (the crossed out one).

Things to be aware of: The Panorama mode is functional. The HDR option does nothing. It does not have the self-portrait option. The zip also replaces the HTCAlbum with its own version.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Niksie:
Thnx man. It works perfect. No more lag when pulling down the notification bar.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
Cool. I'm going to look at doing a transparency mod and adding more options in the quick settings.

Check this out as well http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1185113 its a mod that makes rosie rotate with out having the keyboard open. Credits to dumraden :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
cant wait for the more options in quick settings. and your "no recent apps" in the notification bar worked like a charm! thank you very much :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MrEzzzkiel:
+1

I flashed your mod this morning and I love it! Big thanx!

Also looking forward to some more quick-settings... One of the things I really miss coming from InsertCoin... :)

ThX!!! :D

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Com.Chakotey:
Mhhh another mysterious Problem...

Where is Googlemail?

I don't have the app...or the icon for it ;/
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MrEzzzkiel:
Gmail? Can't you get that on Market?

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
are you able to get it from the market? should be there
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Com.Chakotey:
Market? No sorry nothing...the app was inside the ROM included an widget for it....

On 1.0.2 and on stock it was!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
do you mean the "mail" app?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
Don't get to excited about extended quick settings yet. It's definitely possible but my abilities may let me down. Going to look into it tonight.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Com.Chakotey:
No in sense you have a "mail" widget for POP/IMAP etc...

AND! a Googlemail included an widget like the "mail widget"

A don't have an Google Mail symbol in my Programm list ;/
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Rumbi:
I don't have the Google Mail Widget either but the normal app is included as always. Try to reflash the rom, but wipe before doing it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
Someone else had a problem with gmail not showing. The app is supposed to auto install its self on the first boot.you can download gmail from the market or check your SD card for a folder called virtuous_sense/app.Rom

The apk will be in there.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Rumbi:
Sorry but in the german Android Market there's no possibility to load the Gmail App. Some copyright/trademark issues i think.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
There is no gmail widget included in sense roms.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kingchris:
htanks for that posting. this was one of the things im looking for.

now i have a nice rotated Rosie when my phone is in the dockingstation.

if someone find the Rosie with the modded Personalize button, i would be thankfull if he posts it here
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
Check the DHD forums I think someone has found away to do it. I'll look into it later anyway.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kingchris:
thanks for the Tip.

here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=887208 i found the customized rosie's

but after i wasnt sure if this were the right rosies, i decided to decompile and diff 2 of his versions and rebuild my own.

and here is my rebuild, Rotating and Customized Rosie

and DONT forget to install Launchkey from the Market or the free Version from the posted Thread
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] David Dee:
Very appreciated, thanks! Works perfectly so far. I would highly recommend this to anyone who is annoyed by status bar lag.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mreeekay:
Thanks for the help! Can't wait to try it.

Thanks, gonna try it out.

+1. Can't wait to try it, the lag has annoyed me but I find myself using the recent app list a lot. lol. can't wait to try the rotating rosie too. Looks like I have to start checking out the dhd forums too.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
DHD forums are great they have a much much bigger community than us. There us lots of cool stuff there and lots of tutorials and guides.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jimbojack_uk:
Awesome mod, speeds things up nicely, now just keeping my fingers crossed for extended settings.

Thanks for the hard work.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
i agree, thats why ive begun porting stuff from DHD forums ;D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] slapshot30:
I've been curious lately... what all can we use from their threads without needing to be heavily changed/ported? Things like themes and such...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lord Bodak:
One problem I've had with Virtuous (it happened a few times while I was on 1.0.2 and happened on 2.0.0 for the first time tonight) is that when the battery starts to let low (mid-30s), sometimes the phone just shuts off. The only way to restart it is to pull the battery. I'm not sure what's happening, but it's certainly not the phone running out of power!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
I have never experience what you did... ever. even when I was at 8% battery life. It is probably an app screwing with your phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crazyC:
I am loving this rom more each day.

I saw the 3d game Destroy Gunners on the XDA portal - thought I would give it a go, despite all the listed requirements stating it needed a phone released summer 2011 etc.

It runs fine, but when finished I returned to the homescreen and rosie had not even needed to reload. Marvelous.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
hey guys, what do you think of having the sense 3 lockscreen and apps vs. just keeping the stock one? i am struggling on deciding what i should use. idk which is better/worst. thanks :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
If you use to many sense 3 apps you will probably have the same memory problems that unity has. I'm using the sense 3 lock screen and average about 100mb free.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] makken85:
hmm, now that you mention it, I've had this happen once or twice as well. I figured it was a fluke, or that the battery slipped off its contact (phone was in my pocket while i was running around), I hadn't considered that it was an issue with the ROM.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] imsuperjp:
my wifi doesnt connect automatically. I have to turn it off and back on for it to connect. is that normal?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lord Bodak:
It doesn't happen every time the battery gets low-- I have been down under 20% this week and it worked fine.

I don't know if the problem is with an app or the ROM, but I figured it was worth pointing out here.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
that's fine, i'm just saying that I push my phone (with my old stock battery) to around 15-20% almost daily and I have not experienced your issue once. Potentially, there might be something in your set up that is interfering. Is there any that directly reacts to the power level of your phone?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lord Bodak:
No, I don't have anything like JuiceDefender installed. Tasker is on the phone but completely turned off. I do have ZDbox installed and the battery service is running but I don't think it actually does anything other than report.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
That's even more odd. I also use ZDBox and I don't have any problems like yours.

An option, albeit a very long option, is to install the apps one by one till you find the culprit. Something has to be causing the issue.

Another potential problem maker is restoring system settings. I remembered that I restored a bunch of settings and it blew up my top bar. Completely removed it at start up...

The only thing stopping me from helping you is the fact that your problem seems random and that no one knows that trigger for your problem. If you do observe something, do mention itb though.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] monomer888:
Just wanted to report a slight graphical anomaly with the People widget. When the single column style People widget is displayed in landscape Rosie mode, the icons on right column appear squashed up. This also happens on the ROM based on the official update, so it's probably a HTC thing. Pic attached.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] karlonicolas:
hi all. i noticed a keymap issue with the hardware keyboard while using terminal emulator. i wanted to input the quote <"> symbol. However, with or without the fn key on, i could not, and can only place the symbol <~>.

No worries really, there's a soft keyboard anyway.

FYI and thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] karlonicolas:
will a2sd work in virtuous 2.0?

tia for your answer.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lord Bodak:
Yeah, I didn't restore system settings (I saw plenty of warnings that it was a bad idea).

I am pretty sure we're going to need more info if anyone is ever going to chase the problem down, so unless it starts happening to me more, or other people start reporting it too, I don't think there's anything to be done about it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
I appreciate this!!! so much!!! Thank you =)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Unfortunately I think the free mem is misleading. I personally believe that the lockscreen is permanently in the memory (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).

But to see what I'm getting at, let's take the following simplified, hypothetical scenarios (where all apps use 25mb):

Scenario 1:

Total 200mb mem, system auto kills at 50 mb free

25mb used by app A (visible)

25mb used by app B (running in background)

25mb used by app C (running in background)

50mb used by lockscreen

Free mem= 75mb

In this example, you theoretically have enough room to run something requiring up to 150 mb in mem, provided apps A, B, and C are killed. OR, you can run 1 MORE app and nothing gets killed, for a total of 4 apps in the mem (e.g. multitasking)

Scenario 2

25mb used by app A (visible)

100mb used by lockscreen

Free mem= 75mb

Now you can only run an app that req. up to 100mb of ram. You can also run one more app in this scenario, but you will notice that now you can only have two apps in the memory at a time before the system kills the oldest/lowest priority =(

In both cases, the system reports 75mb free, but it gives very little insight into what your system can actually do.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] monomer888:
Free Memory?

I think you make some good points and thank you for your clear illustration in your post. From my general reading around, the importance of "free memory" in Android is very different to what I originally thought it was, coming as I did from Windows Mobile where free memory was king.

From my observations, Android likes to fill most of the memory up to speed up the system but it also likes to keep a portion of RAM "unused". When I use System Panel to look at running processes, it talks about 'resident', 'shared' and 'effective' memory use. This led me to come across this posting in a Linux forum about how Linux (which Android is based on) uses memory. To quote:

For a more technical Android-specific explanation there's also this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...-of-my-application-in-android/2299813#2299813

Again it says that this is "an extremely complicated and difficult to understand area" :D So yes, apps that report "free memory" and "memory usage" can be misleading and we have to take the information they give us with a pinch of salt. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MrEzzzkiel:
I'm pretty sure that's not normal... I jump straight on my wifi as soon as I'm in range... And it's always been that way...

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
You can tell in my signature I have mixed some sense 3.0 parts with Virtuous, but I am still getting 180 mb free. Now that's enough so I don't have to worry about memory and the ram script which is also in my signature may be helping a little. So I'm wondering where did 75 mb of free memory come from? Also free memory is misleading because on the Insertcoin rom I had lots more with poor performance, also the ram script thread in my signature also explains it for people like me who don't know much about the underbelly of an operating system.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] asim0:
I see you have found several mods to your Virtuous, thank you for linking them in your sig!! Did you find any extended notification settings mod?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Com.Chakotey:
Hi!

How do you install the Sense cam from 3.0?

Download the Insertcoin Rom and extrakt the apk?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
yes, extract it, then adb push it to your phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Com.Chakotey:
Mhhh but i can't use both cams from 2.1 and 3.0 ;(

Is the 3.0 much better? Quality etc?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
i know there are more effect modes. i do not know about quality. quality is either the same as the 2.1 camera, or better. it wont be worst. sorry, thats all i know
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] schriss:
I'm coming from Virtuous Unity 1.27, wasn't happy with it, there was something constatnyl draining battery and using CPU (Ive used task managers to find out what it was but no luck so I assume it wasnt a specific app)

Then I flashed this ROM without wiping data (I only cleared dalvik) and I love it! It's so smooth, responsive and battery is great (1% lost overnight instead of 10% as with previous ROM).

Thanks!!! :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
i replied to this earlier, but someone told me a way to make it so it functions like the stock G2 rom. first, download the leaked stock GB rom for the G2 (siulmagic's one is good). extract it, then adb push the "usr" folder in /system to the phone's /system/usr. reboot, and it will be working. enjoy :)

edit: it only worked when i had the sense 3 lockscreen mod on :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bradley_e_smith:
Personally I would rather see the Rosie launcher from the doubleshot ROM, but with 7 or more screens (not 5).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rollex:
Advanced kernel?

I tried to search kernel from this topic, but didn't find one. Which advanced kernel I should use with this ROM if I want to control my mhz's? I tried 1.0.2 and 2.0 but after flashing them both frozed to boot (white bg and htc logo) infitinely... had to restore backup. I'm puzzled.

Help?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rollex:
And which one is that?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rollex:
Never mind my last posts.... installed SetCPU and figured out this is already overclocked.

Thanks for the great ROM!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] darkmeridian:
Don't flash the advanced kernel from ROM Manager. Use the Unity

4 kernel. I have used it with Virtuous Sense 2 and Double shot without any problems, and it is fast.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
i wouldnt mind the 5 screens. i just wish it had the option to change the lockscreen
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Excellent post. Thanks for the very informative links! (Bookmarked)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
That was the simplified, hypothetical part, where I just chose arbitrary numbers =)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hispeedworm:
hey guys gmail got an update and i dont see it in my apps section of the market.and i cannot find it on the market either. just like a few google apps were not installing on stock non modified 2.40 rom....do you guys see it and have you updated it from the market?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
I was able to update. Do you need the app?

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hispeedworm:
yes please :) if you can please give it in apk format... i think its damned region specific market thing not letting me update it from market :(
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rollex:
Thanks! Works like charm!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rollex:
I find this ROM awesome, have not encountered any bugs whatsoever. Only thing bugging me is when I'm on data network, it always shows "H" -logo, never 3G+ like it should. Is this because this ROM doesn't have sufficient radio or something? Do I need another radio? The speeds are OK though.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Glen L:
help please. I wiped before installing this rom. Now my hardware keyboard wont work
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chocohagelslagje:
I wanted to tell that battery life is really amazing. Am using this rom since yesterday morning with charging last night till now 67 battery left. I use it with the v4 kernel and recommended radio. Further no problems for me. Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rr5678:
Anyone have the small MMS issue? If so, I have a fixed version of the ROM.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jmwils3:
can you post it (or a patch to fix the current install)?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] imsuperjp:
yes please post it
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
+1 I would like the patch also

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rr5678:
It'll have to be a full reinstall. I know how much people hate doing that, but it's required. I don't know how well this will work outside of the T-Mobile US network, though.

Vision Sense v2.0.0 with MMS Fix

When installed, go to MMS options and change the MMS Max message size option to 3500K

http://www.multiupload.com/ZUXIM16HBT
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rollex:
What MMS problem??
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
You don't need to get a new radio =)

It's the same thing. Yeah, yeah, I know H and 3G+ are different technically. what I mean is, there are either icons for G, 3G, and H, or G, 3G, and 3G+ in a rom. Whether the icon is 3G+ or H, its referring to your carrier's speed that is faster than 3G.

There are flashable zips you can get that change the icons from H to 3G+, if you would prefer! Yay for rooted androids =)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rr5678:
Some people using this ROM receive thumbnail-sized MMSs
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rr5678:
I know on T-Mobile US this is considered one of their 4G phones.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 0.0:
when i tried flashing, it said "installation aborted." i will re-download the file and try again. i will let you know if i get the same error

edit: it worked now. the first time i downloaded, it wasnt a good download. now i will test if the mms problem is fixed :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mputtr:
the term 4g is for now, something that really does not matter. at best it's a marketing scheme. at worse, 3g+.

Unfortunately this thread is not for such arguments, so let's just say that H or 3G+ is what is considered the appropriate speed as determined by the developers of this rom. If you want your phone to say 4G, do a search for the term 4G signal and it should yield a result with a zip that someone posted to make your phone show 4G.

EDIT: When I say search, i mean search of this thread, not the whole of xda-developers.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rr5678:
Oh no, I'm not trying to argue. I'm just saying it was marketed as a 4G phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] LoVeRice:
er.. about the battery status, is it really like that? a number & a white vertical line?