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[Desire HD Accessories] jords12:
Ok, My case arrived today, and just went for a walk with it tracking (cardiotrainer rules) to get a feel of it in my pocket etc. I agree totally with what's been said; this case is awesome!

It does add a bit more bulk which is noticeable at first but feels normal quickly. It doesn't make the phone uncomfortable in my hand or pocket, it's not a problem for me. And you can feel how much protection the phone is getting, this is solid. I love the 2 layer approach from a design point of view - the outer hard plastic spreads out the shock and then the inner silicone absorbs it. It also means that it's not sticky in your hand or pocket, the hard plastic shell feels nice in the hand actually, has a slight texture to it.

My only complaint is entirely my fault - I messed up the installation of the screen protector, I didn't get it on in quite the right location when I put it down and then tried to pull it up to move it, and now the bottom isn't sticking down (the bit below the keys) - looks bad but it's not on the screen so not a big issue. Might try to trim that bit off (and leave the HTC logo exposed, the horror!) or just get another screen protector.

My sister also has a desire HD so when she gets back I'll take some shots comparing her phone without a case to mine, give a better idea of how much bulk is added.

Oh and the volume rocker and power button are fine, they look like they stick out a lot in the photos but in reality it's pretty minimal. They aren't the easiest to press and the response is ok but not great - but considering what the button below it is like I think they have done a great job, it's certainly an improvement :)
[Desire HD Accessories] jamieeeee:
If anyone wants to order use coupon DiveShowOtter it takes 20% off total price (the previous posted got 10% discount)
[Desire HD Accessories] Burning_aces:
Thanks, will get one.
[Desire HD Accessories] HoundDK:
Neat acessory - now you can actually find the on/off and volume keys in the dark!

To bad it wont fit in my active brodit cradle - can't live without it!
[Desire HD Accessories] Source90:
So, is this any better then a Case-Mate Barely There case?

Got word that they will release the Desire HD version pretty soon.

Case-Mate or Otterbox? What's better and furthermore, the difference?

Edit..Can't post links yet.
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
I'm not sure about the Barely There case, but I have a Case-Mate Tough Case for my Nexus One, and the OtterBox Commuter case for my DHD, and they are pretty alike. Made the same way with soft inner, and hard outer. The Tough Case has a slightly softer/grippyer (if that's a word) feel. I am happy with both. I wouldn't say I prefer one over the other.
[Desire HD Accessories] jords12:
What I need now: A dock for my bedside (alarm, so a speaker that stays off but gets trigged by the signal level from the phone would be awesome, don't think anyone makes something like that though), and a car dock (a built in speaker would be awesome, since the DHD built in one wouldn't be great on a noisy road), both supporting a phone in the otterbox since taking it off isn't something I would want to do daily.

I can't even seem to find a decent universal dock though, so not sure my chances of finding one of these is very good. OtterCases, anyone?
[Desire HD Accessories] jords12:
D-D-Doublepost
[Desire HD Accessories] AndyCr15:
How quick/easy can the case be taken off?

I already have a screen protector, is the one supplied special?
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
It's not that hard to take it off. It's on pretty good, but if you pry one of the corners, it gets to a point where you can pull, and it comes off easy. You do have to try to take it off, it won't just fall off, so there is some work involved, but I would rather it that way, so at least I know it won't come off during a fall. I don't use screen protectors, so I don't know if there is anything special about them, but they look like any plain ones you would get.
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Trimmed inner case pics

OK so I'm playing Angry Birds, and the volume buttons are annoying me, so I decided to trim them. Well I must say I'm glad I did. Not only is the case perfectly even all around now, the buttons are still very easy to push and use. I trimmed both the volume buttons, and the power button. I used a razor blade to trim them even with the case on, and then I took the case off, and used sand paper to smooth any rough edges the razor blade made. I like the result very much.
[Desire HD Accessories] Burning_aces:
I am looking for the same stuff as you.
[Desire HD Accessories] jerrycan:
Thanks for testing this, they do look quite bulky out of the box. I'm still waiting for my Otterbox, but at least it has been shipped now.
[Desire HD Accessories] vitodecataldo:
I tried to buy one from italy but the web site rejected My two credit cards....did someone buy it from italy?...what credit card has used?
[Desire HD Accessories] Burning_aces:
rejected mine too, said address miss match and I'm from Australia.
[Desire HD Accessories] vitodecataldo:
i will buy it from this page : http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...akeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:it

is in australia so for you will be also better :D
[Desire HD Accessories] Burning_aces:
ahh excellent, I searched a few times on ebay for it. when was it listed?

also just bought it.
[Desire HD Accessories] nsan1ty:
Just got my otterbox for desire hd, and got to say protection it offers is awesome. Is a bit bulkier than just silicon case but totally protects the phones body which is what I was after!

Thumbs up!
[Desire HD Accessories] Kingken:
if rejected, dun try again.. i was rejected and i try another 2 cards.. now 3 cards also rejected... called bank and say that transaction was approved!!

send them email n yet to get a reply!
[Desire HD Accessories] Burning_aces:
**** I got it rejected on the otterbox site and bought it on ebay. Hope I dont end up with 2...
[Desire HD Accessories] PeatCoal:
I was thinking of getting one of these as they look like they offer great protection.

However, after looking at the photos in this thread, I'm not so sure. It looks like it almost doubles the thickness of the phone!

The £2.99 gel case I got off eBay only added 1.5mm tops. And it looks better - whats up with the huge Otterbox logo?
[Desire HD Accessories] crazyjoe:
I got rejected too, no order history, no confirmation, but the bank said there are transactions :(

Did you get a reply?
[Desire HD Accessories] Burning_aces:
i think i cancelled mine.
[Desire HD Accessories] Talos77:
For those of you in Australia and having troubles ordering direct from the totally crap Otterbox website: Allphones stores in Australia are now stocking the Otterbox Commuter for AU$39.95. I picked one up 2 days ago from my local. No need to wait for delivery and no need to risk getting charged multiple times by the otterbox ordering system.
[Desire HD Accessories] Burning_aces:
Seriously? thats a $5 saving as well as not having to wait around for it D:
[Desire HD Accessories] Kingken:
No reply from them since sunday!! though i did email them again!
[Desire HD Accessories] crazyjoe:
May I ask, how did you cancel it?

I don't have an order no.
[Desire HD Accessories] easternwindddd:
I lived the same story. The otterbox web site has a problem I think. I trid to buy a couple of time, but the web site cannot accept my credit card, but when I look at my credit card account, it seems they charged. But after one week or sometimes 10 days, it has erased. If your order cannot accepted or cancelled, please do not afraid.

But the most important thing is, I want to buy an otterbox case for ultimate protection, I have a credit card, but I couldn't, because web site is very very strange.
[Desire HD Accessories] thetmyster:
Thanks, Buying this now! :)
[Desire HD Accessories] crazyjoe:
I just got an email from CS, they said they've a lot of calls and emails to response to, and that the pending charge to credit card will drop 3-5 days if the purchase is unsuccessful. They also said, "Generally failed orders placed on our website have much better success if placed over the phone."

So I guess if you really want one, you can place an order by phone (but I'm not sure if you have to fail at a website purchase first).
[Desire HD Accessories] pappas99:
has anyone had any luck finding a good vent or window mount cradle that fits a DHD with otterbox around it?
[Desire HD Accessories] preacher65:
No, but I'm using a Dash Genie from mobilefun.co.uk right now, and it seems to hold the DHD in the Otterbox Commuter well enough. I was concerned the phone would be too heavy for it, but it actually holds better in the Otterbox case than it does with the phone naked - perhaps the case makes the back flatter. It's not rock solid but it's pretty stable, at least I haven't knocked it off yet! :D

I've also dropped the phone a few times since I put this case on, so I'm very glad I bought it. I don't feel it adds much to how big the phone feels in my hand. It's slightly thicker, but the camera feels much more protected. The power button is easier to find, but a bit spongy, so not always easier to actually press. Overall I'm very pleased with this case, but if I had to pick any faults with it they would be the buttons, which stick out slightly and look a bit naff (I may pluck up the courage to trim them as posted earlier), and the strip of silicon at the bottom of the screen, above the USB socket. It's the only bit of the inner case that isn't firmly clamped down by the hard shell, and very occasionally lifts up. Oh, and the silicon tends to pick up fluff from my jeans pocket, but it doesn't adhere and wipes off in seconds. The screen protector is good, but I've ordered a Brando antiglare one after seeing Andy's review.

But as I said, I've dropped the phone a few times already, and have been very glad of the extra protection. (I use a wheelchair, so my hands are always busy when I'm moving around. Phone on lap = phone likely to be dropped. :o) I think it's a really good compromise of protection and appearance, so very pleased with the purchase.

To the guy asking about the CaseMate Barely There - I haven't seen the DHD one, but had one for my iPhone, as I could leave it on while putting the phone in my TomTom cradle. It protected the back of the phone against scratches, but didn't offer anything like the protection the Otterbox does. However it hardly added any extra size or weight to the phone, sot they're very different cases aimed at answering different needs.
[myTouch 4G General] tada116:
First thing i did when i got mine =]

i hope you like

3M Di-Noc Vinyl

This stuff is amazing... many other uses for it too
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
oh i like that. unfortunately it doesnt help the camera issue so i still need a case for it. why oh why does htc design all their cameras so that the lens rests on the surface
[myTouch 4G General] tezzeey:
I know what you mean but it does cover up the camera and part of the glass so now I feel more safe when I set it down on a table.
[myTouch 4G General] cdw9800:
where you get the case
[myTouch 4G General] tada116:
http://store.carbonfibergear.com/3m-di-noc-carbon-fiber-vinyl

its basically a heavy duty sticker with a 3-D carbon fiber look...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Cipherblox:
I'm opening this thread as a place where we can get a few of us together and hopefully work on creating some patches to fix these 2 bugs.

As a background, when running an AOSP based ROM:

1. You will always receive a voicemail notification regardless of whether or not one is present or not. Additionally, this happens when using Google Voice. It appears that a flag is stuck somewhere despite setting the Voicemail app to Google Voice.

**FIXED SEE UPDATE** 2. Using the Stock Messaging App, it is unable to properly split the messages into 160 character segments. The message, after a few minutes, simply fails to send.

Both of these should be happen regardless of whether one runs CM6 or AOSP 0.x.x as it happens in all ROMs that are built from scratch. Thus, our build environment should not be limited to any one particular ROM provided it is an AOSP ROM. That said, while my phone is running AOSP 0.9.7, I will be debugging using the Master Branch of the Android Repository (Running OSX 10.6)

As in all development threads, people need to have fairly extensive programming experience (C and Java). While testing is appreciated, *please do not post in this thread offering assistance*.

Hopefully we can fix these 2 things that continue to persist.

-Kevin

Edit: I have the SMS 160 character problem fixed. Here is the URL. Use ./adb remount and ./adb push to install the updated Mms.apk and reboot. Mms.apk
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrinehart93:
Just letting you know I don't have any issues. Why don't you just run CyanogenMOD6 lol?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] t12icky0:
agreed about cm6.

plus how can you label this thread a DEV thread when you havent even started developing anything yet?:confused:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] jetlitheone:
You can remove the phantom voicemail icon in CM6?

I know sprint VVM works but idk about the notification ever going away for good
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrinehart93:
Well I just never had a phantom voicemail in CM6 ever since I've been using it. Have you guys tried removing VVM and using Google Voice?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yeah, no issues here with those on CM 6.1.0
[Hero CDMA Android Development] BlaqkAudio:
I've never had an issue with phantom voicemail notifications using Google Voice. However, I did have an issue with autosplit on SMS. Last time I tried to send a text that required to be split into 2 texts, it failed to send. I haven't tried it recently though.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Yeah, that's just an AOSP limitation
[Hero CDMA Android Development] LancerEVA06:
I dont have the phantom VM in either CM or AOSP. I get rid of the 9016 Text by using Super Private Conversation (an older version than on the market). Also my texts split already. But instead of 160 characters, it splits using the GSM standard of 140. My phone has always split the texts at 140 regardless if I'm running stock sense or a custom ROM.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Cipherblox:
160 characters should be easy to circumvent with a (albeit trivial description) simple conditional that:

A. Creates a new message with the same parameters specified in the first one.

B. Checks to ensure that this happens upon hitting 160 characters

It shouldn't hard.

I'm not sure about all the people not getting the Phantom Voicemail notification. I have had it on every single AOSP based ROM I have flashed. Numerous other people do as well.

What makes you think I haven't. I have the entire Android source code, have successfully built it, and am currently sifting through lines of code trying to find where the affected areas are.

My phone is running AOSP 0.9.7 and I have duplicated both problems with CM6, CM6 Nightlies, and CM6.1. With regards to the Phantom Voicemail, the only known workaround is to use Handcent and Sprint VVM and blacklist the 2 messages that you receive containing the VVM info.

-Kevin
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Cipherblox:
The problem should occur when using Google Voice only. The 9016 is the "push" that Sprint does to the Sprint VVM and is normally consumed by Sprints version of VVM.

I forgot that the 9016 isn't the Phantom part and that the "Voicemail Notification" when using GV is. I'll fix the OP.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] LancerEVA06:
Also remember that Sprint uses a rather odd system for Voicemail on Android phones. There is 2 seperate places where the Voicemail is saved. They must both be deleted to get rid of the notification. Meaning you have to call 2 seperate number. Your regular Sprint VM (own number) and another number... cant remember off the top of my head tho.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Agimax:
(As far as i know this only works on Sprint)

This was discussed long ago, and i got my sms messages to stop by doing my old reply quoted below: (it just won't stop the VM icon from appearing)

It's also been said, you can switch your account to another phone, activate it, clear out all your messages, then switch your account back to your phone. That will solve your Ghost VM Icon.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Asadullah:
I've heard different results about that method, also if you don't have two phones it doesn't really help out at all. Don't mistake what I'm saying as an insult or knocking your method. I just know there's a way to fix this issue we just haven't found it yet
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Cipherblox:
If you stop the SMS Messages, I'm not sure how the Sprint VVM knows how to pull the messages from the server. Regardless, that is something that will happen when using any non-Sprint based ROM unless we modify the stock messaging app to consume those messages.

The Voicemail Notification when using something other than Sprint VVM; however, has no known solution yet.

-Kevin
[Hero CDMA Android Development] JusticeAA:
The "phantom" voicemail notification is different from the SMS messages from Sprint. This is a change made in the Message Waiting state in the android system which triggers a notification "New Voicemail Dial..."

I use CM6 and Google Voice and still get the notification, along with others from the CM6 forums.

I created an issue here with CM6:

http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2507

Please star or comment to help get this looked into.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] obsanity:
In your google voice settings (web login) go to: settings->voice settings->calls(tab). On the very bottom, uncheck "Place missed calls in the inbox".

Perhaps this is the "phantom" voice you are referring to?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] pfer10:
Kevin I use to run CM6 then switched to Jaybob's then back to CM6 RC1. Tried some nightlies but after the RC1 experience I have been running AospMod for a while. I haven't used sprints VVM since running damages sense 2.1 roms who knows how long ago and I have never had a phantom voicemail on any Froyo ROM. I have seen various people talk about it but I not even sure what it would look like? Just an FYI
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Cipherblox:
That's so weird. I'm not sure what the explanation is in that case.

As far as what it looks like, the phone will alert you on start up as well as when you switch towers that you have a Voicemail and to dial the number that was set (Even if you aren't using a number as you are using Google Voice).

Even if you call the number, there is nothing there. You can clear the notification every time, but it will just come back.

If anyone has the Master Branch made with gmake, the NotificationMgr.java seems to be contain part of the code for the phantom voicemail; however, it looks to call a method that is returning the wrong value (I haven't been able to debug it yet).

At the same time, it seems like the block of code in NotificationMgr.java that concerns the VM notifications is called after determining that there is a notification, so I'm still somewhat stumped.

-Kevin
[Hero CDMA Android Development] texas83:
I have both the SMS and the VM issue on both CM6 and DDv2.8. I just reverted back to DD b/c I find it runs a lot faster on my HeroC.

I would love to get a fix for both of these issues! Good job starting a thread!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] hotaru:
check logcat when you push the new Mms.apk. it probably tells you why it's rejecting it.

if it's rejecting it because the signature doesn't match, try deleting the original Mms.apk, doing adb uninstall com.android.mms, then pushing the new Mms.apk.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Cipherblox:
Excellent idea!! I never thought of that...

Is there any chance someone running CM6.1 can try this and post their logcat for me to look over?

-Kevin
[Hero CDMA Android Development] BothGunzUP:
I'll give it a shot... I'll let you know if it works.

EDIT: Ok so I deleted original CM6.1 Mms.apk. Then I "adb uninstall com.android.mms", and it successfully uninstalled it. I them pushed GamingPhreek's stock Mms.apk compiled by himself. I rebooted and I do not have any Messaging App. Still a no go.

However I did, try this: "adb install *location*\Mms.apk" and I got this:

1035 KB/s (860329 bytes in 0.811s)

pkg: /data/local/tmp/Mms.apk

Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK]

GamingPhreek, are you using the latest SDK? Or maybe you need to use the very version CM is compiled in?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Cipherblox:
Hmmm

I'm not using the latest SDK for the adb push.

I do; however, pull down the latest source code which is compiled against that.

-Kevin
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Psycoboy15:
how is the progress on the Phantom Voicemail?

If any needs I'll gladly help test.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] JusticeAA:
None at all, they have found that CM6 won't play nice with other system apk's while testing the SMS issue. Until there is a solution to that, there is nothing that can be done to fix the voicemail issue.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] SirRipo:
So, an update on mine. I pushed the apk via adb, did it successfully (at least I assume so, I got no errors). Will not send a >160 character message at all under "home" or "automatic" settings (probably because the automatic defaults to Sprint's network). I don't have an issue with the messaging app not being there (I still have an icon for messaging). So as of right now, the only issue I can see is possibly with sprint's network?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Cipherblox:
Which APK did you push? The fix at the beginning of the thread or the stock APK I compiled and posted a few posts ago?

The former will fix it, the latter will not.

Also, you are running CM6 and you managed to get one of my System APK's pushed to the phone successfully?

-Kevin
[Hero CDMA Android Development] SirRipo:
The stock one from a few posts ago. And yes, it would appear that it pushed successfully, I didn't get any errors via ADB, and I still have a messaging app. (though now my phone appears to lose signal when sending/receiving a text? Just for a second or two, it says I have no coverage at all -the little "x" over the signal display - probably unrelated)

I'll give the first apk a shot in a minute here, see if my phone will recognize it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Cipherblox:
In that case, go ahead and try the first Mms.apk that is posted on the original post. If your icon and what not appear with the stock compilation from a few posts ago, then the APK with the fix in it should work like a charm.

As for losing service upon sending a text message, that is normal. Text messages are sent over the 1xRTT (2G) network. Thus, when sending a text message it switches over real quick. (I'm 99% sure this is what is happening because I see it too).

-Kevin
[Hero CDMA Android Development] SirRipo:
Sorry, man, ignore my last few posts regarding the working apk....Just realized I didn't do /adb remount before pushing the first one. I did with this one though and it immediately closed my messaging app upon pushing the file, so CM6 still isnt recognizing it for some reason. My bad...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] BothGunzUP:
I did a Nandroid Backup of my phone. Then I did a complete wipe/factory reset and installed AOSPMod and the latest cfs kernel from Deca. I also pushed your Mms.apk, since naturally the default one didnt work on long texts.

AOSPMod certainly is ok with your Mms.apk, not that you didn't already know that ;)

So I think I am going to stick with AOSP, I rather like it, it's lightning fast!, I also like CM6.1 but it runs half the speed according to the benchmarks. It must be changes to the framework i guess.

At anyrate, do we know exactly what causes CM6.1 to not like new system apks?

A suggestion would be to go to their GIT Hub and add your code in there for split messages to the messaging app. Then they can review it, and if they like it, it may get approved. Or they can alter it, whatever but it only benefits everyone else.

Just food for thought, since no one seems to be answering any questions on it on their side.