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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
Let's make a deal. I buy your sygic software. If it doesn't fix my problem, you give me a refund, plus $50. If it does fix my GPS, I give you $50.

Since you know it fixes the GPS, you have nothing to loose, right? Or perhaps you are the 1000000th would doesn't know what you are talking about?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] one4spl:
I use my SGS with the Optus (Telemaps) nav app and its perfect navigating through the CBD in Brisbane. My TomTom One is much worse, leaping all over the place when I'm between buildings.

I bought my SGS (GT-i9000) a day or two after they were released.

The fix with the original firmware was terrible but anything more recent is much improved.

Are we sure that most of this drama doesn't come from some incompatibility between the SGS and MyTracks?

If you are in a car or not holding the phone in portrait you should probably turn off "Use sensor aiding" (ie using the gyro to supplement the GPS).

"Use WiFi" might also give some odd results if the locations of the WiFi access points in the Google database are off. If you've agreed to submit location data to Google then this should improve over time for paths you use regularly.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
Yes, because people reported problems with many other apps, including sportypal and google maps navigation.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
I tried that. It didn't help. In fact it was even worse, the GPS stopped recording after that.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Divefire:
Having done a motorway run today, I tested the GPS for the first time since upgrading to the official UK 2.2 release. And yes I did a factory reset before installing.

With GPS Test most of the time I had 10 satalites locked with 4-5 in 35 to 45 nr range and the rest in 20 to 30 nr range. Accuracy was for the majority of the time 16.4 meters, with the occasional jump to 32 meters. Conditions were overcast and raining. Lock on time was about 30 seconds to a minute.

I think that's reasonable performance. However in the past I've had variable performance, with 2.1 builds, and I believe it's been noted that GPS performance degrades the more you use it?

Still, thought it was useful information to share.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bynar010:
But how did that actually track in navigation software? Mine looks ok in gps test, but is hopeless in actual practical use.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Divefire:
My experience of that has been the opposite of yours in the past on 2.1. Navigation programmes generally being okay but GPS Test giving me poor results.

I haven't had the chance to test navigation on 2.2 yet, I'll try it today though.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maesebit:
Nah. Sygic fixes nothig. I use it for in car navigation, and all it does is not pointing you at the exact point the GPS is indicating at every single instant. So using it seems like the GPS is more consistent since it won't show you jumping around in a 50 meters radio, but it's just illusory. Guidance accuracy still low, however, it's acceptable most of the time, since the software normally is able to give you the right directions on time.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] corman1:
I hope this helps some people with the gps frustration. I noticed that my gps was off like 100 + meters, not aceptable for me so I did some experementing and what I discovered was that my gps worked as it should after I went into settings/location and security and I discovered that after I "unchecked" use wireless networks, My gps worked as it was should.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Divefire:
An update on my GPS navigation on 2.2. Tried on a 150 mile round trip, conditions overcast and raining.

Google navigation wasn't great, with it jumping roads when they were close together and getting rather lost in a built up area. It got very confused when changing route and took a long time in finding a new route.

Telmap Navigator 5 was a better experience with no road jumping, reasonable quick rerouting and only a loss of signal (return to route request) twice.

It seems to me that the GPS is adequate, but no more. Also it seems Google Navigation isn't at its best when coping with an average GPS signal.

Of course this is only my personal experience.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodeo2:
So here is my take on SGS GPS. I bought this one in August and through GPS test App it was clear that it had some issues, locking late and not staying in locked state for even few seconds etc etc..(the best fix I saw was 6 out of 8).

I recently bought Sygic app since there is no Google Maps navigation yet in my area. For some reason, the GPS seems to work and I navigated from home to work without loosing the lock once, that is 45 kms. I know its too early to come to any conclusion, but if this gives me what it did today, that is all what I need.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emms:
Most people didnt buy the sgs for its awsum gps qualitys if you did what the hell were you thinking? Like steve jobs said apple is not perfect no manufacturer is get over it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maesebit:
I think it's the other way around. What the hell is thinking the people who don't expect all features packed with the device to work properly?

I didn't buy my car because of the great stereo, and I wouldn't expect it to be awesome. But hey, I do would expect it to work properly, and if not so, I'd demand it to be fixed or replaced.

Samsung is selling a phone with built-in GPS, so it's normal people expect the GPS to actually work.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DamianGto:
Even cars don't work 100% from the manufactur. People do not look 100% on everything on the car either. Can they return the car if they saw a foult? No.... They need to get it to the shop for repairs.

People here with faulty sgs has choosing to complain on a development forum, instead of go to the shop they did buy the sgs.

If you do buy something that's broken you should return it to the shop so fast you can. It don't help anything to go to forums and complain.

Many do believe if there is alot of complain here, Samsung will be forced to give them a new phone.

Wake up. It never gonna happen.

Even in the poll tread about the GPS it shows that many gps do work.

You can flame, trolling all the tread about gps you want. The only effect is none of us developer will help out. You have showed already you don't want a fix. I did try to help out and all i got was bad post and people called me all kind of things.

It sad you don't understand that is people here that want to help. The only thing you do is kicking them in the butt.

I hope you all whining people start to growing up.

I have stopped all my development on gps stuff and do other fun things that i have use for.

Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 342MB Ram
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shocky2:
I know quite a few with a Galaxy S and none of them have a working GPS, one was bought a month ago and still the GPS sucks.

Will see what the Nexus S is like early next year and probably jump over to that if there are no major bugs.

Desire HD is nice but the battery life is a put off.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emms:
right so how the hell can u demand xda fix or replace it im afraid they cant only samsung can tbh your barking up the wrong tree.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maesebit:
I'm afraid this forum is the right place to share people's experiences with the phone. Either the good ones and the bad ones.

If you don't like reading people's complaints about the ****ty GPS performance maybe it's you who's in the wrong place.

Complaining here doesn't prevent me from complaining to Samsung. You know, I can bark at many trees at a time. From my point of view, it's good to let everyone know not only the good points of the phone, but also the bad ones, like most Galaxy S having a flawed GPS.

If you don't like that, you can either stop reading people's complaints, or beg Samsung to fix the problem so would your sorrow stop.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
Well, your point was made more time than needed. You can share your opinion, that's fine but once it's share, what's the point on repeating it over and over again. As I said many times, this is a developers' forum. The intent of this whole site / forum is to get / find / share help around issues or to develop and optimize our device.

This is not a "relief" center for your "hatred" against the GPS...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonny_ftm:
Hi,

A feedback:

After having screamed my Galaxy S GPS is good, I tested in urban areas with heavy roads density (since I only have tested in rural areas before).

The GPS completely s**ks and is unable to give a decent driving expierience. It is not precise at all and jumps from road to road.

really silly Samsung, and especially robbers

My apologies for wrong info. Maybe many people never tried it in a high density roads area like me. In rural areas with few roads, no issues
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] waspbr:
What firmware version are you using?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunjar:
I understand the frustration of many on here...i too had an SGS handset with poor/subpar GPS performance. Wasnt really sure as to "how" accurate it should be in comparison to a standalone GPS navigation.

After hopping from one forum to another i lost all hope in that it is/was a software defect only. Did a little more digging, found these threads VERY helpful in explaining the GPS issues:

"CORRECT Hardware GPS Fix"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=878970 ---1

"SGS, glgps, jupiter.xml, and you (how we can control the GPS behavior better)"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=881941 ---2

Id say its DEFINITELY worth reading both threads entirely. Also read post #19 by "T313C0mun1s7 " (link 1)

(Sorry if someone else has already posted the links here, i skipped to the end of this thread)

Having signed up for a 24month contract with Orange (UK) i initially received a partially functional SGS, the non functional feature being the GPS.

My handset in my bedroom, on the window sill, would see around 5-10 satellites in <1min and perhaps lock to 5-7 in <2min. Sometimes a lock would be <10-20secs although the SNR would fluctuate rapidly, never consistent or still, perhaps for a split second or so. SNR ~10-37.

Anyhow, approx a week ago, i tested the GPS properly on a journey from notts to bham, about 1hrs drive. I lost sync about 4-6 times (ive posted it somewhere on one of these threads). The shortest losses were around 4-5mins and the longest single outage was ~15-20mins.

Another post i made in the "Are you happy with your SGS" thread, clarifies my view, largely influenced by this journey and the poor performance of the GPS.

I read the above threads and was hopeful about the "hardware fix" as many have tried and reported success. Also many stated that if you're in a position to obtain a replacement handset from your network operator then do so.

Yesterday afternoon i called Orange, explained the problem, GPS is poor, loss of sync, barely functional .etc the chap on the phone asked two questions to help diagnose... common sense really, "did i charge the battery fully?" yes..."did the phone have a clear view of the sky?" yes

The chap sent out a replacement handset, arrived this morning just before 10am, only the main part of the phone, no back cover, battery, accessories .etc bare minimum.

First thing i did was test the GPS. Success! In my bedroom with my phone raised a few inches from my desk, i picked up 10-11 satellites in <1min, (~40secs) first few appeared almost instantly. For the first time i also attained an SNR of 40, 41, 42....immediately i debranded the phone, rid Orange bloatware.

Running 2.2.1 JPY now, initially i got the error message "Failed to move application. Not enough memory" when trying to move apps to SD card. Tried flashing back to ORA then XEU, didnt work. Decided not to bother after, loaded up my apps, and now for some reason my apps are moving to SD card. Seemed to have sorted itself out :confused:

Where/if possible get a replacement handset, DEMAND one!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kunjar:
....oh and i shall take it out for a quick run tomorrow, try get into the city then report back.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nemethb:
I have a Bell phone manufactured in December and the GPS is great. My previous galaxy s phone was from August and was very poor. I tested this gps for about 3 or so hours on the road. Never lost lock, constant 5-10m accuracy. Only problem I have is with google navigation which sometimes puts you on side h roads.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] got_milk:
A picture is worth 1000 words...

A little patience goes a long way.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
Whilst it certainly isn't fitness grade, I have the results from XXJPX vs a Garmin forerunner..

* JPX Results

* Garmin Forerunner

There are still some accuracy issues, but the results are interesting.. The difference between distance jogged on both are minor, the difference between the speeds are minor (and could be attributed to the fact that i didn't give the SGS as long to track the satelites before starting).

At least when walking, it does appear it should be suitable for navigation (but haven't tested it in a car). For fitness, the forerunner is STILL clearly better, but it is a seperate device (the SGS still has minor sustained glitches and short small ones). But at least the serious issues for fitness seem gone.. When I have a chance, I'll compare them on a jog where many turns are made (which should help establish if the tracks are relying on smoothing).
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chaikouk:
my gps has never worked :mad:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milsjg:
and what program may I ask? Different programs are good / bad on different things. MyTrack not so good in turns. CardioTrainer not so good in cars etc.

Comparing as people has done now for nearly 7 months with different roms, operators programs and dedicated GPS's has not given anything. The SGS is not as accurate as dedicated GPS's but good enough for navigating and fitness purpose at least with latest firmware it seems. Comparing the SGS with dedicated GPS is meaningless because you have bought a phone not a GPS. I would be upset if I paid 2500 skr for a dedicated GPS (Forerunner 310 XT) and it did not perform much much better than a phone for 4500 skr (SGS). I would surely return that crap and don't recommend it to anybody.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
Using SportyPal, the things kinda looks like the track with Garmin

http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Embed/832721?key=1ffb8dbd46a24b4ca506cd998f22a6e6c605f83c&ms=0
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonny_ftm:
I confirm GPS issues not solved with JS5. It is confirmed by xda to be hardware issue, fixed by redoing the soldering of antenna or RMA phone and get a new one

I don't want RMA, I don't care as I have a very good SIRF III external BT GPS

So, people for whom GPS is vital, be careful to get a new batch or you'll be disappointed

PS: GPS locks quickely but is not enough precise. In rural area it is ok, but in high density urban zones, it'll keep jumping through roads
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wkapga:
gps is just fine sincy later froyo.mods. right now at ginger2.3.3 (cm7) just flawless.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hoss_n2:
when comparing the hd2 with other devices with only 512 mb ram on system info it hd2 shows (422mb ) on other devices it shows (488) which is higher also hd2 has 576 mb ram which is higher than 512 , that makes me believe that 576 is not really functioning on android :confused::confused::confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] |ErosizeD|:
I supose, the 40 or 60mb remaining, are for graphics memory, or system proceces.

I'm not sure.

But if now dont have 575mb... never we get all the ram
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hoss_n2:
it is more tahn 40 to 6o we are missing allot about 154 mb ram , i will ask at the desire forum and know what they get (as same ram amount as hd2 )
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shuntje:
i beleave there are a few ppl out there who have the full 575 mb running. One big but thoug u wil need a radio with the 575 mb in windows mobile. If not your phone is soft locked on the 488mb
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hoss_n2:
does radio in wimdows mobile has any thing to do with ram amount in android , can any one confirm having more than 422 mb ram when using 576 mb enabled roms
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hackant:
You are great！
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] scooter1556:
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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
The nand chip of dream is different...

So one brave tester could test it...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] scooter1556:
Exactly what i was thinking, that's why i asked how it was merged! I would expect you will just get an error when it starts to boot android saying it can't find the NAND partitions (or sysinit.rc can't be found) but i'm not gonna try it until i know how it was merged and that the NAND configuration is the same as the original kernel.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Uploaded the wrong files...sorry. Will edit my first post.
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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Is it a different manufacturer? If its same but just different model they may be sufficiently close, I just don't know enough about the dreams hardware to say for sure though. Never had one, if I did I would probably be using it instead of my tilt lol
[Android Software Development] faheemkh:
How do i set ip,dns,gateway of a wifi from my own app (Android)...
[Android Software Development] faheemkh:
52 views , no rep :(
[Android Software Development] drsood:
Try Wifi Static
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sakai4eva:
Hi, I've been using the DeFrost and CM ROMs and I notice that their camera app records 720p videos at 30fps. Does any Sense ROMs manage to do that?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noobandroid:
hi Malaysian, well Sense ROM can get close to 30fps, but not there, basically because of limitations within the "Sense" itself, that's why CM,DF and OD chose to abandon "Sense" and go open source ROM
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] th3:
A month back, OD/CM were no better than HTC 2.2. I used to run these three. In the recorded vid, except the bit rates, there was hardly a difference. All managed 27-29FPS average and 10-11FPS lows. So how do you say 30FPS fixed... Rumors?

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sakai4eva:
I should clarify. It "looks" 30fps with rather good framerates. So you guys are saying that AOSP camcorder and Sense camcorder is virtually the same?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] th3:
I can't speak for others but there is definitely no noticeable difference between the video output in my experience of ~3months. The Sense ROM cam has options and UI unmatched on the AOSP ROMs though.

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ByteFalcon:
I got a brand new desire phone recently. some how I was lucky enough to get an imported phone with a local licence, how that happened I have no idea.

The thing is I love the current stock Rom I have because it has certain discontinued apps I've been trying to hunt down + the market app which hasn't been licensed in this region yet.

I still want to have root access to my phone. How do I rip the current Rom and root my phone with it? I also want to try and port it over to my old Legend and customize it a bit.

I would also be happy to provide it publicly here or on the shipped roms website if I'm successful. The phone is unbranded and unlocked so there should be no legal issues with HTC or network carriers.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
You can't backup BEFORE rooting but you can AFTER - once you've got your custom recovery on the handset you can use it to perform a backup of your phone as it is onto the SD card so should anything go wrong you can just restore it.

However, you might wanna look at the app I've attached to this reply - it can be used to backup apps to your SD card and doesn't need root. That way you can always reinstall them on newer ROM versions that don't have it

(To install it, extract the file from the ZIP and copy it to your sd card...then open a file manager and install using that)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ByteFalcon:
Thanks, I'll give that app a try. But still there must be some kind of way to rip an image of the Rom? I'm going to need the image as backup and I want port that Rom over to the Legend if possible.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Without root you simply can't do it as you don't have access to the /system partition
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ByteFalcon:
ok i'm a bit confused now, doesn't the root process already include flashing a custom ROM? so if i root the phone so i can access my stock ROM i'm gonna lose it either way becase of the rooting?

if thats the case then how do stock roms even exist publicly? sort of like which came first, the chicken or the egg?

i might be wrong but this is what i understood from the UnrEVOked rooting tutorials i read
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Rooting doesnt involve a flash now, so once rooted u can backup the stock, rooted ROM. Then u can flash a custom ROM

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ByteFalcon:
This applies to unrEVOked too right?

Thank you so much for bearing with me :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Yes. If u root using unrEVOked it only roots the phone. U can then do a nandroid backup before flashing a new ROM

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tidy:
Unrevoked dose flash

It flashes a recovery image
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
But it doesn't flash a new ROM so you can back up your existing one before flashing a new one
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ByteFalcon:
just to make sure i've been going through some tutorials again and they eventually led me to rootmydroid.com where i asked them about this issue. i got this answer:

"unrEVOked flashes a custom recovery image that is different from the stock one.

If you don’t want this maybe you should try VISIONary (google it)"

I did google VISIONary and it seems to be an app you can install on your phone and root it right on the spot, however going through the comments it doesn't seem to work on the Desire. I'm gonna test it myself on both the Desire and Legend and see if it works. i'll post back here with the results. if i got it working and managed to rip the rom i'll write a guide, i know its simple but it took me quite some searching and reading to get to this point.

VISIONary is an app developed by Paul/Modaco if anyone is wondering
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
A lot easier to just use unrEVOked - VISIONary was developed for the Desire HD