yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
It wasn't a wind-up. That guy has a Desire Z (he did a very comprehensive tear-down), and he's deep into s-off and hboot etc. So if anyone knows, he does. I believe he's IntuitiveNipple on IRC.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
If I were you I would ask this question over on the G2 forums, where there's a lot better chance of finding someone who has done it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] JupiterDroid:
Im not sure that we can use the same method though...

This forum is near on dead of dev's, as soon as the hboot is live for both phones im hoping they will merge the two sections into HTC Vision.

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
paulobrien has done it, see pic :
[G2 and Desire Z General] JupiterDroid:
Thats like saying jesus can walk on water,

I would like to see a mere mortal do it first, paul has not released any info on the hboot process as of yet;(

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Joeball88:
hahaha nicely put.

The reality is there is no hboot readily available for the D-Z users yet. Gotta wait and see what the brains come up with.
[G2 and Desire Z General] MrPaveL:
Bumped

Hey All,

(I'm not responsible for any damage that may be caused by flashing this)

I have a great news for all of us. I was stupid enough to test it myslef first

So, here I present You the engineering hboot for our lovely device.

It's ripped from quite old DesireZ dev rom, namely: 1.05.0.0, it laid on my drive for week or so :o

Here's the proof that phone booted corectly, I suggest You to backup all your data.

Bye,

Pavel
[G2 and Desire Z General] MrPaveL:
That's not fair :P Paul's got newer version ...

Edit: though, it doesn't look like ENG hboot
[G2 and Desire Z General] BRad Barnett:
Hi Pavel,

Can we get an md5sum on that file, just to be sure?
[G2 and Desire Z General] MrPaveL:
Here: hboot_7230_0.84.2000_100908.nb0

2ce1bdd5e4c1119ccfcecb938710d742
[G2 and Desire Z General] BRad Barnett:
Thanks.. works great!

You are a saviour, sir!
[G2 and Desire Z General] MrPaveL:
I'm glad it worked ;-) But the compliment should go to guys who allowed Us flash this baby.

In this case, I'm just a delivery boy (Ah Futurama again ;-)).

Little bit OT: I really enjoyed last season, I still can't understand, how they were able to pull off so many jokes about physics ... and it still was soo original plus funny.

Bye,

Pavel.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dixxa:
Hi pavel and brad,

i'll get my desire-z next week and wanted to know how to flash this hboot judging by the extension just place that file on the /sdcard and boot in hboot would flash it right away but I wanted to be sure :)

I don't wanna brick my newly phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Armani G:
how do I run this hboot??? i did the perm root... and my phone is rooted but need to get s-off..
[G2 and Desire Z General] BRad Barnett:
Just like in the G2 thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=833965

dd if=/data/local/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
[G2 and Desire Z General] Armani G:
would I have to rename it?? because on the g2 thread its a .img?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Joeball88:
hmm. was wondering this myself.
[G2 and Desire Z General] MrPaveL:
name it as you want... it doesn't really matter
[G2 and Desire Z General] Joeball88:
Not the filename I'm worried about - but the extension.

The file here has .nb0

G2 example is an .img

same difference...? i dunno...
[G2 and Desire Z General] MrPaveL:
I know, it is a little bit confusing. However, in this case it's same (binary data) and you can name it as you want ;))
[G2 and Desire Z General] aerok:
Is it confirmed to work on a Bell Desire Z?
[G2 and Desire Z General] BRad Barnett:
Yes, works great here.

Download, check the md5sum (see the second page of this thread), and do your dd.

Also, probably it is a good idea to wait a couple of minutes after you do a dd, to make sure all the I/O has made it to disk.

I waited 3 minutes, just for the heck of it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Armani G:
not working still s-on im going to try it again and wait a bit longer after sync
[G2 and Desire Z General] Armani G:
nope still cant get it to work... strange!
[G2 and Desire Z General] aerok:
Same my s is still on...
[G2 and Desire Z General] MrPaveL:
Guys,

did You insmod wp-whatevername.ko before running dd? I bet you didn't. Having perm-root doesn't allow you write into mmcblkp018. You need to clear write protection.

Pavel.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Stratrix:
confirmed working on my (bell) desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z General] aerok:
Oh ignored that part
[G2 and Desire Z General] Sphaerophoria:
+1 for telling them that before I did ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] aerok:
Tried it, still on
[G2 and Desire Z General] MrPaveL:
Can you describe, how you trying it?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Armani G:
wpthis-OTA.ko

wpthis-pre-OTA.ko

witch one?
[G2 and Desire Z General] aerok:
I use the .KO file that came with the Visionary release from Paul.

su

insmod /data/local/wpthis-OTA.ko

Then I get this

init_module 'wpthis-OTA.ko' failed (Function not implemented)

Then

dd if=/data/local/hboot.nb0 of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18

Reboot, reboot again with Vol and Power, no change
[G2 and Desire Z General] MrPaveL:
after insmod part, try remount /system as rw then create some file on it. "#: touch /system/test" should be enought and reboot if the file stays.

edit: You might get some help at #g2root channel on freenode, I have to go now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] aerok:
Hmm which .KO file did the other Bell Desire Z use?
[G2 and Desire Z General] stridger:
Man, MrPaveL, you're a star! Paul just used the G2 eng hboot, I think, which breaks the booting process until you reflash system and boot again...

Thank you very much for this!
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
no need to run sync after dd if=xxx of=xxx ??
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
is there anyway we can clean this thread up some? possibly throw all the steps and files into one post. waaaaaaay to much scattered info. :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Post a new thread with all the info in and let this one die, that will be the best way
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
well, that would be useful if i knew what steps to take, there seems to a lot of conflicting info, I was hoping someone would compile so people can do it in concise steps without making their device one expensive paperweight. And yes, i could look over at the G2 forums, but even then, some of it doesn't pertain to us, i was just hoping the ones who have already gone through disabling S on their Hboot could write up some instructions for us D-Z folks. that's all :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] stridger:
I have just posted a guide which should be fully working. I will ask the Forum mods to merge the HTC G2 and the Desire Z into one forum (at least the Development ones, as we have now essentially the same device with different partitioning layouts and ROMs).
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Agreed. There's bound to be some trial and error at first. As a noob to Android (I'm quite technical, and have a lot of Unix experience, but have WinMo on my current phone) there seem to be a lot of people diving in who don't really seem to know what they're doing and are at great risk of bricking their phone. Not directing this at anyone in particular. The more experienced Android folks should be the ones diving in IMHO, and then hopefully we can come up with some more noob-friendly guides.

I haven't even ordered my DZ yet. But at the moment I'm happy to sit back, read as much as I can from this and the (more comprehensive) G2 forums, and build up my knowledge before trying anything !
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Please do send you thoughts to svetius via PM too. In the original thread on merging forums, he said he'd leave it for now, but invited comments via PM.
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
id like to see the forums start to merge, doesn't make to much sense. an example where things seem fine is the the Magic forums, the Magic has one proc and the MT3G has a different one plus both devices have different amounts of memory 192 vs. 288mb and the forum seems to co-exist just fine.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Now we have full root and s-off it makes sense to merge them as they are effectively the same device now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dixxa:
I'm still wondering if somebody has tried cyanogenmod on the desire z :s

I won't be able to keep this phone without cm6 on it :s.

Or maybe it'll require the g2 hboot.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ScottRTL:
Please yes... I did permaroot on my Desire Z because I could find concise information... I still haven't done S-Off, because I still havent seen a good guide, straight to the point... Im very technical, not an Android developer, but I should be able to follow this stuff...
[G2 and Desire Z General] BriEE:
Yeah I just did S-OFF was a bit confusing what I had to do, anyhow, with the perm root it's a bit different but similar. Not sure if I should post my version.

Though I can't get recovery flashed on, something about the write protect...

Ah this stuff was so much easier on my Desire lol.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Someone certainly needs to make a new thread with clear guide on what to do, I will do it but I am still waiting for my Z to turn up!

No point me writing a guide if I have not tried it out myself as I could make a critical mistake.

See the "noob" thread pinned at the top of this forum for an idea.

Edit: Ignore me its in the second sticky
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matt_TX:
After the great success of the "Best ROM" thread last week, I thought it would be interesting to add a "Best Kernel" thread too. Obviously, this is completely subjective, but the poll will at least tell us which kernels are most popular.

If you have any comments, please add them below. It would be particularly interesting to get feedback or comparisons on stability, battery life and performance for the kernels included in the poll.

I messed up the Poll and accidentally omitted "Netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-bfs-bfq-havs-more-smartass-universal (More Aggressive Undervolting)" - MODS: Please edit the poll and add this at the top.

In the interim, please comment below if you have this kernel and I'll tally the results that way.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lahma69:
netarchy has been my favorite by far
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matt_TX:
Poll is up now. Please vote :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerryparid:
BS #6 is a classic kernel
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matt_TX:
I'm not familiar with this one... Can you give more details? Why is it "classic"? Does it work on all Sense Rom's or just Baked Snack? Details please...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] INebilim:
I love ambiguous comments, add to the subjectivity of the thread, dont you think?

for me it's Ziggy/SnapturboBFS for Sense/AOSP respectively
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkelle4:
Toast's 2.6.35.7 Test1 Kernel
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matt_TX:
Is it still possible to get KingxKernels or have all the links been removed because he is banned? I went to his site and couldn't see any links there either. Any updates on him?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerryparid:
There used to be a ROM named Backed Snack by Hero_over. Eventually he got banned(?) on XDA, same situation as Kingslick I think.

There was a kernel known as Baked Snacks Kernel #6, which was never explicitly released as a stand alone kernel, but rather it was bundled with his roms. It still is one of the best kernels available. This fact made BS #6 not nearly as well known as some of the other kernels on the forum. No disrespect to Netarchy/toast/ziggy, but Hero_over > them.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matt_TX:
Sounds interesting... Can you post a link to a flashable zip for this kernel? Is it known to work with other Sense ROM's?

Why do these people keep getting banned? Honestly, it's ridiculous. Two of the best kernel developers are now gone, and how does that help the community? I know they were allegedly wanting to "charge" for certain things, but that's supply and demand. No-one is being forced to pay, and I don't think "big brother" should be banning people to preserve their "faux-utopia" where basic market economics don't exist. Let people decide for themselves if they want to support Hero_over and KingKlick...

Are these guys banned forever?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jerryparid:
Just banned for creating membership programs of some sorts for early releases and dedicated support. Mym is 'practically' doing the same thing right now.

Google "baked snack shack" for Backed Snacks, there are links for BS#6 in the Mym Warm thread.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matt_TX:
*facepalm* I couldn't agree with you more. Many devs do the same thing. It's totally ridiculous.

Thanks for the tip on how to find BS#6. Much appreciated.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xlGmanlx:
hero is back and not to rehash that discussion he was early release on snack shack and then post on xda for free on his published schedule. Myn is doing the same thing and you can get all of his full release stuff free as well. if your talking about the other "dev" she just linked to her site and forced monthy subscription to some things and never released to public or dates when they would be. Kernels weren't impressive, but the good news is Hero is back and is still a beast!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SpaceMonky:
i don't have a single favorite so far, but netarchy's kernels give me great results.

i'm in the process of trying all of his out, so i won't vote for now. ;)

you're also missing net's 4.2.1 BFS More Aggressive from the list.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ryanalan82:
Kings bfs11, I've been using since release, and before that was cfs 11. I will stick with king as long as he makes kernels for the phone I have, or I die, whichever comes first.

Swyped from my Evo
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkelle4:
You can find downloads within the different threads here
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cowfodder:
+1

Bfs#11 is amazing.

From my Evo to your eyeballs.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
This is stickied in every development board on the site. It's called open source, if you like having to pay for every stupid thing buy an iPhone.

I've been using netarchy's kernels from the moment he released one without the FPS limit cap and haven't needed to try anything else. His work great for me.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmollabi:
most tasty kernel...lol
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matt_TX:
Hahahaha... Now that is hilarious... :D

Finger lickin' good...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cowfodder:
Open source /= free.

From my Evo to your eyeballs.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luieavila:
For those running Netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-cfs-bfq-havs-more-smartass-universal (More Aggressive Undervolting), are you using it with SetCPU?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bender1077:
I'm using less aggressive without profiles set to 1152. Getting about 15 hours with good use.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luieavila:
I'll give it a shot. I've been using King #9 for about a week on Warm TwoPointTwo RLS3 and I get about 10-12hrs of good use.
[Captivate General] BumRush:
Please delete before everyone find out I'm retarded. Figured it out.
[Captivate General] smrtfondumuser:
Click your book mark tab in your browser, all of your bookmarks should open on a separate page, press and hold the one to delete and a pop up options should appear, scroll down to "delete bookmark", done.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jcarabelos:
So I'm a noob. Rooted my phone today to OC the CPU. It's at 1.1 ghz, and I'm really wanting some reassurance that the CPU isn't overheating. I know nothing about it to be honest. I downloaded the Temp+CPU PRO app and realize I need a kernel (whatever the hell that is) in order for the widget to properly read my CPU's temp. Only problem is I don't know where to get it or what to do with it. Help please? Also, how risky is it to OC my G2? Is it worth the risk? Please advise!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] The nip:
Get setcpu. Its the best thing to control the cpu speed and temp of the phone with the profile options and saves battery life when OCed
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pbrauer:
Back in July I bought the Augen Gentouch 7/8 from K-Mart and while I could see the promise of the Android tablet, the overall device was really nothing more than a toy. A fun toy to be sure, but I could tell there was nothing serious about it. On top of poor build quality (I have gone through 2 of these), the touch screen was awful, there is no factory/vendor support, and the lack of hardware features made it not much more than a very basic e-reader. My cell phone is also an Android, I got my HTC Incredible the first week they were out and have flashed and reflashed it.

So, this past weekend I picked up the Cruz e-Reader ($199 @ Best Buy), the Cruz Tablet ($299 @ Best Buy and the Huawei S7 ($299 @ Best Buy). Out of the box the Velocity Micro Devices seemed to have a very strong product, form, fit and design was solid and sexy, although I found them to be a little on the heavy side (The Cruz both weigh in at 1 lb, and the Huawei is 1.1 lbs.).

The eReader was just horrible. The Touch Screen was unresponsive and inaccurate, the software was way too much for the processor, and there was no market capability. Add to that the lack of a planned upgrade path for the OS and this device is dead on arrival. Buy a Nook or Kindle for $20 less and you will be much happier.

The Cruz Tablet is a much better device, the capacitive screen is responsive and light, and the device seemed pretty snappy. I was nervous at first because the two devices on the floor at Best Buy both seemed to have a glitch that made their unlock screens non-responsive, but mine seemed ok (at first). The lack of the Android Market was only slightly mitigated by Cruz Market, but this is going to be a big hole for people as more apps are released. Also, after much exploring I found a post by Blazing Wolf that finally identified the processor. Turns out it is a MIPS processor, which means Android is a port, something that is sure to make ROMs and other mods scarce. Again, in the end I was disappointed in the device. Yes, it has a capacitive screen, but no camera, no Bluetooth, no phone capability. And oh yeah, 3rd morning I had it when I turned it on the capacitive screen stopped responding completely, same as the two I saw in the store.

So that brings me to the Huawei S7-104. The resistive touch screen is the most responsive one I have ever used. No, it is not as nice as my HTC Incredible, but it is very easy and quick. TWO 2 Mp cameras, one front and one rear, again, not great cams, but that is what the 8 Mp in my phone is for, right? Bluetooth, WiFi 802.11 b/g/n, 3G wCDMA and GSM capable and GPS. Fully working Android Market via WiFi without activating the phone. All this for $299? Are you even kidding me? Right now it comes with Éclair 2.1 update 1, but since it has the 768 Snapdragon Processor I know it is only a short matter of time before a snappy Froyo ROM is cooked up for it. Finally, all of this for $200 less than the 3G version of the Samsung and $300 less than the Wifi version. Oh yeah, this little device rocks!
[Windows Phone 7 General] amb9800:
Been playing with my HD7 (TMo USA) for two days now. Main problem's been that it's highly buggy.

I left it overnight to charge, and when I turned it on in the morning, everything was disconnected (no updates from Internet) as the Wifi connection was off. Went to the settings app, and only the first three options (ringtones & sounds, theme, and airplane mode) were even present. The entire rest of the menu panel was not even visible for some reason, so I couldn't enable Wifi.

I then restarted-- it connected to Wifi, slowly loaded one webpage, then when I returned five minutes later, it was in a weird state. Wifi could not be turned on (attempting to turn it on in settings had no effect). Opening IE would load a grayed-out version of the tab selector then crash back to the home screen with any click. Pretty much all apps would load an initial page but then crash whenever any input was submitted (e.g. email address/password for setting up accounts).

Pretty poor so far-- the UI is smooth and hasn't locked up per se (as Windows Mobile always inevitably does), but the inconsistency and random crashes make this feel like alpha software.

Actually it kind of feels like what'd result if you were to put a GPU-accelerated GUI on top of WM 6.x and then forced it to either act in a few seconds or abandon the task. Sometimes things work, sometimes they don't, and the GUI just glosses over as if nothing's wrong.

Anyone else having similar issues?
[Windows Phone 7 General] amb9800:
Hmm...the OS has crashed (causing a reboot) three times today so far-- once when downloading email (in inbox screen), once when loading a particular message, and again when trying to open the Marketplace (froze with one highlighted app, Need for Speed, shown, then 10-15 seconds later, phone restarted).

Wifi's also only intermittently connecting with a strong signal in the area (toggling it on/off doesn't seem to fix it).
[Windows Phone 7 General] IM0001:
There is the possible chance of just having a faulty device, (or simply a faulty MicroSD card which is used for memory. Have you tried a Hard Reset on the device and seeing if the problems resurface? Most people who have used WP7 for the most part so far have not mentioned issues like yours on the vast scale you have.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
I've had mine for a couple days now also and it has been perfection as far as operation goes. I did have a bug in IE when I tried to respond to an XDS PM. I tried to delete the accumulated text and it funked up. Couldn't back out to a previous window so had to reboot WP7 to be able to use IE. I was able to tap the windows button and go to the main screen, but I couldn't use IE till after the reboot
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
had my samsung since launch the 8th

I have not had any problems what so ever!! and i have installed a 32gb class 2 card in connection with the 8gb internal and it runs great no problems to this time never had to reboot or lock ups nothing... most likly you have a bad sd card...
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
yea i can also report the same, mine is smooth as. what i have been doing of late is leaving my pc on at night, and my phone connected to wifi (charging as well), and it would sync with my pc throughout the night. get up the morning and videos are ready to go for me to take on the train. haven't experienced any difficulties at all yet.

i would report the issue to your carrier and get a replacement handset, or hard reset first to see if it's not just some dodgy build on your phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] microhaxo:
Ive been using my device for 3 days. I've only encountered 1 or two odd problems

1. when i was connected to the uni's wifi and visited weather.com it kinda borked out (i think it had to do with my uni re-directing to a login page to verify identity)

(or it could have been weather.com loading some scripts (didnt see it as a mobile device)

2. i develop for wp7 and sometimes after i deploy an application to my phone, the back button wont work. (sometimes meaning it happened once )

No crashes or anything of that nature though..

Can anyone agree that the shutter speed on the camera is really slow? I am assuming its a windows software issue as the cameras in almost all wp7 devices are the same.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rexian:
It really sounds like a faulty hardware. 3 crashes in a day? Wow, even my Fuze never did that with XDA builds. From the reviews and experiences from other users here. I'd say you are either alone or one of very few in that experience.

I handled a Focus for few mites yesterday side by side with iPhone 4 and Captivate. Android felt like beta, iphone4 as final RC build and WP7 as RTM in terms of usability. I like and still use my iPhone 2G so nothing against iPhone really.