yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
i hear there having some problems with the FCC (i think)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iAkuma:
Damit, I was really looking forward to the Desire HD.
[Fascinate General] Sherwood1:
Forgot what article I was reading but it said the Adreno 205 gpu found in the new htc phones was slightly more powerful than the 540 in the galaxy phones. Anyone see this?
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
Inconclusive. About 150320912309123 articles on google using 3dmark mobile only, just copying the same article as their own.

Nothing shown in real world performance, or other benchmarks (not that benches matter).
[Fascinate General] Sherwood1:
Actually benches do matter in my eyes..... just not benchmarks using lag fixes etc.

Either way. I guess well see soon enough.
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
Well, everyone has an opinion and you are entitled to yours...I'll take real world performance over benchmarks any day. Benchmarks imo are only useful for judging whether changes you have made to the system

may

have an impact on performance.

Good point in case is the latest overclock debacle. Benchmarks are off the hook. Real world performance...yeah, not so much. Worse, in fact.
[Fascinate General] ksizzle9:
sherwood, i am sick of you hating on the fascinate, anytime you think you find or hear something is better you show up and make sure everyone knows, i bet if you watch the FPS on quadrant or do a neocore benchmark that the galaxy phones as always demolish the others, with that said here comes my first flame, you said you have already sold you facsinate on cragislist, get outta here and quit bringing down the mood. im sick of hering your complaints,
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
But ksizzle9 have you tried the new sense it is so AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

Just kidding. But sherwood get an htc device already.

good day.
[Fascinate General] ksizzle9:
Also Sherwood. If benchmarks matter n your eyes u should have kept the galaxy. It can post the highest quadrants u can get without editing build prop
[Fascinate General] burlingtonbob:
Thanks for saying it.
[Fascinate General] Sherwood1:
Yes I did put it for sale. But I always said the processor and cpu were great. Can I not talk about the gpu?

Every post I've read here states the Gpu is the best but now I read a real article stating the adrena is as good if not better.

And no you didn't flame, your just a flamer! :)

I'm only in this forum still cause a bunch of dev got together to make the fascinate better.... there porting sense to it.... I'm sure when its released you won't use that port. Haha
[Fascinate General] Sherwood1:
Btw till it sells I'm gonna talk about it. Lol
[Fascinate General] GoogleAndroid:
I've played on a G2. Not only did it do worse in Quadrant, NOVA wasn't as smooth either.
[Fascinate General] ksizzle9:
GoogleAndroid.

Don't mess with Sherwood he knows all. Besides, I know, and u know that our phones have the best gpu by a long shot
[Fascinate General] azturbomini:


Damn ksizzle9, you must have been reading my mind! Thank you!!!

Sherwood, please lower the price on your phone...
[Fascinate General] Sherwood1:
whats wrong with you people??? All i said was I read that the Adreno GPU matches or outdoes the 540 in the samsung fascinate.

Wheres the trolling? Dont get mad because i state what i read. Atleast I back up my thoughts with facts....

Show me ONE ARTICLE that states the 540 in the fascinate is better than the ADRENO 205 and then i will shut up.........JUST ONE!!!!!!!
[Fascinate General] Sherwood1:
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/

Again all i said was it matched or outdoes the 540 by a bit!!

Now all you haters please back up your mouth!!! I just did
[Fascinate General] saps:
I don't have a side in this debate, however who is crowned king will usually be the victor across the board and with more than a lone test. It's good to see that one benchmark. If and when we get five or six more we could maybe draw some informed conclusions

Sent from my OC'd Voodoo Fascinate
[Fascinate General] azturbomini:
How much do you want for your phone or a link to your ebay add will suffice.

Guys, I am sure if we pool our money, at lets say $20 bucks each we can put this to rest really quick. Then donate said phone to a deserving developer and everyone is happy. : )
[Fascinate General] Sherwood1:
Saps im not claiming anything....notice my thread was a question....not a statement. "No longer the fastest GPU?" and everyone blew up!!!

I asked if anyone read the same article thats all!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHA I know you guys love the phone but come on its a conversation!!! lolol

I posted the link of what i read. Now everyone can come to there own conclusion!
[Fascinate General] GoogleAndroid:
I have read the article. But I've also tested the phones with multiple benchmarks and games-the Galaxy S GPU is far better. The Adreno 205 performs more like the 530 in the DX and D2.
[Fascinate General] dangerismymiddlename.com:
This article does not say that it "outdoes the 540 by a bit". The author admits that the results were probably an invalid test of the hardware due to the fact that the faster machine had a FroYo JIT compiler, and the Galaxy S did not. They should waited until the Galaxy S on-hand was upgraded.
[Fascinate General] Sherwood1:
First I hate Apple! :)
[Fascinate General] RacerXFD:
Who gives a crap. The fascinate is a nice phone. It works. Story closed...

Seriously, this is like saying my dog is better than yours... But it really doesn't matter because it's my dog and I love my dog.
[Fascinate General] ksizzle9:
BTW. Our argument is over Sherwood, but please post here when u find a PERFECT cell phone.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] hogofwar:
First off some details about my phone:

LG GT540 T-Mobile UK

1.6 donut

When I connect my phone to the computer, the phone and the computer do recognize it (but only as a storage device once I have mounted it). I have installed the drivers for the phone (I have tried on 3 different computers). KDZ firmware updater does not find my phone with this error:

[R&D Test Tools Log File]

17:33:42 : Launching SW update

17:33:42 : Unpacking KDZ

17:33:49 : KDZ file extraced

17:33:54 : Files were extracted.

17:33:54 : LGMobileDL Load.

17:33:54 : Port = -1

17:33:54 : Connecting to phone

17:33:54 : PHONE WAS NOT FOUND!

17:33:56 : ===FINISHED===

Lg mobile support tool does not even find it at all. I have googled and have found nothing that can help me.

Oh, i am using the kindle USB cable as well (should still work though, right?)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] ZduneX25:
English kdz? Android lg modem turned off?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] hogofwar:
What should it matter about the language of my KDZ when it can't even find my phone?

And what lg Modem?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] m4nu4l:
Install PC suite Drivers while phone is not pluged into usb.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] ZduneX25:
It is matter, 4 russian U need 'windows enabler' 4 english not xd - is better. Lg android modem have to be off in system settings.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] hogofwar:
Ah, sorry i thought you meant the kdz file, no i am using the english version. also mobile system settings or windows system setting?

LG pc Suite wor- OH GOD IT WORKS THANK YOU!
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] ZduneX25:
Windows (devices manager) can't find rigth word. Off also antivirus/firewall protection be4
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] mejack03:
Hi i downloaded the ZIP file when i try to Unzip it my McAfee anti virus found 2 virus in that file and deleted those files

1.EnablerDLL.dll

2.Windows Enabler.exe

After that i tried to run the .BAT file and i tried to ROOT my phone then it is saying no device found :( wat to do ??
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] ZduneX25:
I got da same log two hours past :p use english version of KDZ! Is so much better.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=810271
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] DonPanda:
Download and install from Microsoft two files "MSXML 4.0 SP3 Parser" and "VisualC Redist", disbale Modem Driver. Dont boot with USB cable. Put the cable into the phone _after_ boot in downloadmode.

Close all Antivir programms!
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] hogofwar:
ANd it has stopped working again, i followed all teh steps i did before and it refuses to find the phone.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] flyboyovyick:
keep trying different things like put it in download mode and try that.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] hogofwar:
How do i put the gt540 into download mode.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] ilovelg4ever:
Vol up + Camera and power on
[Captivate Themes and Apps] MantaZumanity:
Now that I have rooted it, what can I do?

Like, how do you get all those custom themes and stuff, and how do you do it?
[Captivate Themes and Apps] koreancanuck:
Wrong forum and I think you should do some reading before actually trying out stuff.

My recommendation is, before applying themes or other modifications, nandroid backup is always a good idea. For the theme/framework modifications on this forum, there are a few options. One might be flashing the zip file through clockwork recovery (if the themer has posted the file). If framework-res.apk is just posted, you can try using adb or root explorer and replace the new framework with the old framework.

Again, some reading would help :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
GRAPHICS

Custom ZenDroid Splash1 Image

Flash by putting the phone in fastboot mode (need eng bootloader) -> do this by holding vol down to turn the phone on and selecting fastboot

tools/fastboot flash splash1 /path/to/splash1.nb

[b]ZEN Splash[/b][url]http://downloads.zen-kernel.org/zendroid/zendroid_splash1.zip[/url]
[EVO 4G Android Development] Igotsanevo4g:
Patiently waiting for the awesomeness :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] drdrewdown:
ok this is kind of exciting. i'd be happy to check this out. let me know if u need any testers
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
Sexy time. Looking forward to it, even though my phone has traditionally favored CFS kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] krazyflipj:
Phone takes a long time waking up when hitting the power button on "Smartass".
[EVO 4G Android Development] drdrewdown:
going to nandroid & then test this badboy out. will post results soon.
[EVO 4G Android Development] drdrewdown:
i have not noticed a slower wake up time like previously mentioned, however:

highest quadrant scores with overclock 1113mhz

smartass - 1509 (most tests were around 1300)

interactive - 586 (lol)

conservative - 530 (yikes)

i realize this is in alpha stage, just trying to help by posting results. the device doesnt seem slow, launcher pro scrolls thru app drawer without a hitch, & things seem to be responding ok.

really looking forward to following the progression of this kernel. thanks so much for posting it up!
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
Same here. Everything else is going well so far.

EDIT: Actually, I just have to hold my power button down longer than normal, but once it's up it's normal speed.

EDIT2: After a reboot no delay on turning on!
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
i need to test it ASAP since the once from toastch is providing an amazin battery life
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
I wonder if the mentioned tweaks to this kernel actually make it better than toastcfh's 2.6.35 test kernel.... has anyone tried both? And maybe noticed a difference in performance?
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeC84:
This kernel is really smooth and pretty snappy. Testing batt life but nice job so far man!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] drdrewdown:
yes i'm running toasts test1. i've tried both of them. i cannot comment on longterm usage for this one. right now i'm very interested to see how this one is going to progress.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Igotsanevo4g:
Flashed this and am enjoying it so far. Is 100% stable for me, along with being smooth, and fast.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rain91:
Liking this kernel so far. No problems. After flashing apps2sd recognized my Ext partition.
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
im was using the toast test1, i dont know about you but at least for me is amazing because got that we need performance and battery life, the only problem that i found is that after some reboot the phones does not pass to boot animation just stuck at splash screen
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
So far these .35 kernels look promising...

I'm running test1 and, as far as real life performance goes, it's pretty great: smooth and snappy.

Haven't really tested battery life, but seems good so far

I'm gonna test this one out and see how it goes, I wanna see where the devs go with this
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Testing this kernel right now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MikeC84:
I just got second reboot after unlock. I am on baked goods beta.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
thanks for the input guys, for me it's pretty snappy. My best results are with the performance and tweaked (more aggressive for bfs) ondemand governor

I get quadrant around 1500-1600 with ondemand un-overclocked. It seems more laggy with smartass or interactive (not sure why)

I'm going to work on other things and get a new build out soon, hopefully addressing some issues. I'll probably do a cfs build too for comparison.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
Does anyone know if this kernel has or will (with the newer release) implement this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=841599
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
Delayed because zen-kernel website is having some issues so it cant be accessed :\

I scored 1960 quadrant on BFS build at 1.15 ghz on performance, on MIUI 0.11.5 - at 1.19 ghz it's about the same

same configuration with the CFS build about ~1800 quadrant
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
what is that exactly? im a noobi
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
This patch is already in the git tree (rebased branch) - it applies to the CFS build only of course ;)

*edit*

links for both builds are up :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkelle4:
easy solution: copy the link address for one of the earlier kernals. C&P to url bar. delete out the file name. press enter. problems solved :D

edit: NVM. Apparently I figured this out in the process of the links being posted!
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
anyone try the kernels yet??? have to wait till i get home
[EVO 4G Android Development] thanatos_evo:
Running BFS. Got 1718 on CM 6.1. Max set to 1075 @ on demand. Hot damn! Will play around a little bit though. I had performance issues with 0.4 so fingers crossed so far. Great work though!
[EVO 4G Android Development] krazyflipj:
I still get stuck on cm splash screen on latest kernel even if I wipe dalvik and cache

Sent from my CM6 powered device
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
The people with issues at the splash screen aren't running snapturbo are they? A complete wipe is needed coming from a snapturbo kernel.

Just curious, im not sure what the issue could be otherwise.
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
So is 1036 max still the stable setting?

Sent from the belly of the beast
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
Holy crap. 1939 at 1190 max. The 2D/3D performance issues are gone (10% increase in scores, actually), and phone is super snappy and smooth.

Very well done, sir. Once this sucker is undervolted ... I mean does it get better than this? This is just the beta, I can't even fathom the stable version. 2000+ maybe? Can't wait. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] krazyflipj:
Nope coming from Toast .35 kernel. I wiped dalvik and cache 2x and was able to finally flash this kernel

Sent from my CM6 powered device
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
Does this break anything (USB/Hotspot tethering, bluetooth, etc.) on CM 6.1 RC1?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
This kernal is off the hook. Liking the .9 version. Getting higher quads at 115 than i did on snap at 119. I can't seem to run at 119 and run quadrant. It seems to crash quadrant on video tests. I could run it on snap stable. But hell who cares what my clock speed is long as its fast
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Yeah I get force close on quadrant ay those speeds. But I have NEVER been able to run those without locking. This things fast! Great work!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
CFS version is beyond laggy.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Make sure to let it run for a while
[EVO 4G Android Development] Award Tour:
I'll see. It's been 15 minutes and it's still laggy/choppy.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
Tried bfs?
[EVO 4G Android Development] driguez:
Highest 1577 at 1190 CFS, Gonna try BFS
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
Try slowing you clock down to 115. I can't seem to get 119 to jive in any version of Zen even though I'm stable at it in other kernels. But i get 1890-1920 at 115 with this kernel with maybe an occasional 1800-1820
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
Does anyone is getting stuck at splash screen? I flashed the phone rebooted fine. I tried to reboot again it got stuck. I wasn't getting this behavior on 0.5.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
For reference sake j just scored a 360 quadrant with this kernel clicked at 128mhz...that's as good as myhero clocked at 768
[EVO 4G Android Development] barnacles10:
haha, I have never thought to quadrant at a minimum frequency. Interesting :cool:

Try wiping your cache
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
So far 1113 is gravy for me

Sent from the belly of the beast
[EVO 4G Android Development] Lento10:
When I flashed the kernel, I wipe cache and dalvik. After when I tried to reboot the phone again, the phone gets stuck on the splash screen. With the previous version of the kernel, I was able to reboot the phone with no problems. I wonder what cause the change from 0.5 to 0.9?
[EVO 4G Android Development] driguez:
1600's on BFS with a 1700's run, not bad at all! Thanks a lot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dwntwnall4u:
Running the 0.9bfs with Ultimate Droid AOSP. So far pretty smooth and fast. QUAD 1795 @1113mhz interactive.

At 1152mhz had a few rebooted & some screen tearing?
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
1700 with bfs, 1523 with cfs. Finally this kernel works for me. Wonder how it will compare to snap 9
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
For more fun. 1352 at 768mhz the top hero oc and a 4.7 linpack at 128mhz once again as fast as a jit hero
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
can somebody share how is the battery life
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
Bat life isn't bad at all but the next version will probably be one of the best at idle kernels if .3 and. 4 are any indication. The first page says. 9 isn't undervolted
[EVO 4G Android Development] asqwrd:
phone reboots when in phone calls using miui 11.12 and v9 of this kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] dadoc04:
Thx for posting. I was wondering how it was with miui... ill wait for the next 1

BTW was that happening with both bfs and cfs?

Sent from my HTC Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
It only did it for me when overclocking to 1190 (even 1152 was fine). On cyanogen it handles 1190 just fine though. ;)

Ride that evo train
[EVO 4G Android Development] asqwrd:
BTW was that happening with both bfs and cfs?

yea i tried cfs and bfs and it rebooted both times five to ten minutes into a call
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tiffany84:
Wondering what governor people are having the most luck with.
[EVO 4G Android Development] airognol:
What would be the best version of this kernal to get?

Newbie here, so any help would be appreciated.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
.9 bfs is rocking. Give that guy a go at 1190.

And to the governor question, give smartass a try. :)

Ride that evo train
[EVO 4G Android Development] airognol:
Where can I download Smartass?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Tiffany84:
I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this but my battery is just dropping like crazy. I'm loosing like 1 percent every 30 seconds. I'm currently running miui v.11/12 with Zen.9 bfs and I'm using smartass (245min/1.15max).
[EVO 4G Android Development] KLLSWITCH:
mine did i had to nand back to an old backup cause it wouldn't boot
[EVO 4G Android Development] dadoc04:
Thanks for the info

Sent from my HTC Evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
im using cfs .9 and when my phone is charging start to get random reboots im on conservative governor no OC
[EVO 4G Android Development] DraginMagik:
.9bfs ... running ok. battery life is my only sad point on this kernel. it's not great yet, perhaps when the undervolting comes online it will be better. still mussing with different governors.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
I love this kernel (it flies, really), but my phone no longer registers when it is connected to my computer by USB. I have tried several scenarios, done reboots, all that, still does not register. Just something to keep in mind for future releases. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
+1 i rebooted back into recovery wiped cache and dalvik flashed .5 bfs and i am back in business.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dcaplinger76:
Running miui 11.12 with v90 cfs and I have had no problems with reboots
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
A thought for people. This kernals potential is fantastic. Not in overclocking. But in underclocking. Think about my earlier tests. You can underclock to 768mhz and its still faster than stock HTC. Once he undervolts you will have a snappy kernal even underclocked and once undervolting is in, you can pair that with insane battery life. Long as you only clock it to 1.19 when flexing your nerd muscles to show off to friends. Hell I was just playing angry birds and running a live wallpaper with 11 Widgets on my screen with no lag or issues all morning. This is rediculous. You can underclock all the way down into the 600s before the phone even starts to act like a stock phone.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dadoc04:
hmmm... ok, ill try it out.

I just flashed to AVA-10 this morning too. Guess I have some more flashing to for the weekend. YAAAAAY!
[EVO 4G Android Development] AvatarOfFrost:
Tried this kernel on CM6.1 latest nightly and gave me about 10% lower scores in Quadrant than the stock kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
Haha you are correct sir! I clocked mine down to 844 and everything runs just as beautifully. I even gave it a quadrant run and got 1596, which is about what I got on the cm6 stock kernel and it was never this responsive. Good call; once the next version is released with undervolt again, this should be a battery monster.

Ride that evo train
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
I used to be jonesing for snap kernals now I am straight up salivating over zendroid kernals. Checking back constantly for a new release. These are like the decad3nce kernals for hero..only better.
[EVO 4G Android Development] airognol:
Installed .9 last night, and was getting random reboots.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thedarksavant:
I'm getting bootloops :(

Wiped dalvik and cache. Twice. Flashing again now, but may have to go back to .4.

I had snap turbo installed at one point, but I've since wiped. Ran stock CM 6.1 kernel and ZenDroid 0.4 just fine. Maybe will try the CFS kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aj4x:
I am having the same issue, constant bootloops no matter what I do :( hopefully OP can chime in with some help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] drickz:
tried both .9 bfs and cfs and get bootloops.
[EVO 4G Android Development] juancaperez2000:
wich governor have you been ussing, i fix the problems switching to smartass i use to have bootloops problems with conservative im not 100% if them dont gonna return but so far no more reboots

edit: also i change to BFS, because with CFS even i got the issue on the splash screen
[EVO 4G Android Development] thedarksavant:
Ok, I figured out SetCPU was the cause of my bootloop problem. Makes sense after reading the release notes for 0.9 since it changed volting and such.

I just booted into my old kernel (0.4) and unchecked "Enable On Boot" in SetCPU. Installed .9 BFS and it booted fine.