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[Desire HD Android Development] Try4Ce:
Why is it the perfect value ... ?
[Desire HD Android Development] Caste23:
No underclock and no overclock ! :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Rixsta:
I find 1.2 to be pretty good on battery as it uses stock voltage..a nice small overclock...why stick to 1ghz...go on..overclock..you know you want to :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Try4Ce:
Yep, 1.2 Ghz uses stock voltage and eats the same amount of battery. I can feel the tense feeling from his side... He WANTS to overclock NOW! ^^

Mine is running on 1,5
[Desire HD Android Development] Caste23:
lol

1.2Ghz with smartass ? why not....

It's just that the dhd battery is really small....

With 1.2ghz, can you use your HD for a full day with normal use ( sms, data, calls etc.. ) ?
[Desire HD Android Development] cxAlex_:
Just installed the 1.1.1 kernel and everything is fine, Mac address is back, wifi tethering works perfectly. Great work!
[Desire HD Android Development] Diaoul:
Just buy another one. So you can switch ! :P
[Desire HD Android Development] Caste23:
Well... it's an idea....but it's not really practical... :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Rixsta:
Yes 1.2 with smartass is good for battery...

I use 1.3** with smartass and battery is still good...a very slight overvolt with 1.3 though...its up to you...play around with it and see what suits your needs.

I'm on day 2 with quite a bit of browsing using wifi..I am using cyanogen rom and that may or maynot help...I'm on 23% now
[Desire HD Android Development] Caste23:
ok ... you win ! :):)

I test with 1.2 and I'll see ...

I have a stock rom for now....

Thanks a lot for the advise.... :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Try4Ce:
I have Android Revolution 1.8 with 1,5 Ghz Smartass ... With the 1.1.0 kernel it ran just fine, 2 days without charging, and at work I get emails, send sms, get calls ... at the end of day 2 it said 24% and then I put it on the charger ^^ so, yea it runs pretty good for me!
[Desire HD Android Development] Bladeinger:
I personally don't think, that 1 GHz or 1,2 GHz makes a GREAT difference in terms of battery life.

I always set up a "screen off"-profile in setcpu with a maximum of 368 MHz. My battery usually lasts 30 to 40 hours, with normal "office usage". That's ok, I assume...
[Desire HD Android Development] Caste23:
:eek::eek::eek:

Wouaw ! really good.....

I think I will test Android revolution 1.8 !

PS : I have something like 6% battery drainage per hour with stock rom...
[Desire HD Android Development] Rixsta:
Before you think about roms and kernels try this...I noticed a difference in battery.

Turn off..

data enabled

data roaming

and use only 2g networks..

Now monitor your battery drain for an hour...it should be much less than 6%??
[Desire HD Android Development] Try4Ce:
6% drain per hour? What the .... 1 hour with in full use, like screen on, wifi and mobile data on with GPS? Surfing the web the whole hour? Then thats normal I guess, because this will use almost all available hardware components the smartphone has...

If its in standby, there is definately something wrong. I'm very pleased with my battery life so far, and yes, I also use SetCPU with Screen-Off Profiles.
[Desire HD Android Development] Rixsta:
Yes I also have the screen off profile...sorry I forgot to mention that.
[Desire HD Android Development] dasich82:
Git the new Testkernel, still have the same Problem with smartass stuck at 806Mhz.
[Desire HD Android Development] SW7:
I have noticed that too...
[Desire HD Android Development] Caste23:
My battery drainage is not so bad...It's just I have to plug my phone every night

i can't use it for 2 days !!

1 example :

with :

3G ON

GPS OFF

WIFI OFF

I unplugged my DHD a 6:00AM

I go as soon as possible on xda for nearly 15 minutes ( I know... I'm addicted lol )

I listen music for 1 hour (to go at work)

I had 2 calls

a little surfing while listening to music

Some tests with kernel v1.1.1

Now it's 12:00 AM

battery drain is 28 % ( battery level in setcpu info : 72%)

In standby... Current widget say 5mA

PS : I have a setcpu screen off profile too.

Maybe it's normal.... maybe I use too much my phone ! :):)

PS : thank you for your help ... this may be the wrong place to talk about it ....

In any case, with this kernel is much better and everything works perfectly!
[Desire HD Android Development] iraqisniper:
setcpu

Hi can someone give me a setcpu setting?
[Desire HD Android Development] Rixsta:
Just overclock to what you want and use the smartass setting, then make a profile to lower the usage when the screen is off ect ect....
[Desire HD Android Development] SW7:
But it doesn't go above 806 MHz using Smartass?
[Desire HD Android Development] Caste23:
You can go up to 1.51ghz with smartass....
[Desire HD Android Development] HTCTourist:
What he was trying to say is that there is a bug in the kernel and in smartass it wont clock the cpu above 806 even with a higher frequency set.;)

Confirmed here as well. Wont go above 806 in smartass.
[Desire HD Android Development] SW7:
Yes you can set it up to 1.51 but it never actually reach that figure? When I set it to 1.51ghz on "ondemand" I can actually see it (in SetCpu or System Panel) jump to the maximum value occasionally, but when I set it to "Smartass" it never reaches the maximum value...unless that is the way Smartass works? I've been searching everywhere and couldn't find any proper explaination of what does Smartass do/how does it work...I've seen people saying "it is based on the theory of Interactive but better" and "it is good on battery but not as smooth as ondemand"...none of them are explained in much details...
[Desire HD Android Development] SW7:
Indeed! Thank you!
[Desire HD Android Development] Rixsta:
Sorry I didnt know that, Im using Buzz 1.1.0 CM kernel and it doesn't have that problem..

I take it this must be a problem with the SENSE one?
[Desire HD Android Development] SW7:
Well I'm planning to flash a CyanogenMod ROM with OC Buzz kernel, so we'll see if the problem still remains.
[Desire HD Android Development] vlados070:
Firstly, try to flash some older kernel through kernel update utility

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=852357

and if it doesn't help then install original or custom Rom
[Desire HD Android Development] berek9999:
That's interesting - I'm on CM and have the same problem of it not going higher than 806. Are you using the smartass governor, as it seems to work with the others?
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
1.1.1

-- Fixed MAC address issue in sense based rom's

-- Fixed wifi tether issue in sense based roms's

-- Added HW3d early-suspend

-- Re added 1Ghz freq
[Desire HD Android Development] envynexxus:
I take it this is the same as the test.zip
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
nope the test zip has less features
[Desire HD Android Development] rulezzzor:
how suspend? what excatly was new in this ?
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
Just want to say a BIG thank-you to all users and donations. now 1.1.1 is out is there any features that anyone wants adding for the next version that people have seen in other kernels? or anything that people see need improvements ?

im still working on battery and performance :D

:D :D :D
[Desire HD Android Development] hamdir:
1113 is gone

is it hard to have both the default 1024 speed (instead of 1017) and 1113? it was my favorite speed, so 1024, 1117, 1220 etc...

this is way we have more control

i will gladly test a new quick version :D
[Desire HD Android Development] SW7:
Hi Apache14, is this behaviour expected? Is that how SmartAss work or is it a bug? Thanks in advance!
[Desire HD Android Development] seandk:
Is it possible to increase the ı/o ?

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
Humm it should spend most of its time under 806Mhz ..... but it should go above when in high demand ... ill have a look into it :)
[Desire HD Android Development] hamdir:
apache what about the steppings man? why the jump from 806 to 1113 or 1017 to 1226 like the case with v1.1.1

why can't we have the three values all together
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
sorry i dont follow ? do u mean having more values ?
[Desire HD Android Development] Diamondback2009:
Yes, the more steps, the better.

And yes, smartass wont go over 806...

Interactive works well.
[Desire HD Android Development] hamdir:
yes 806 1024 1113 and 1226

if you please :) thx
[Desire HD Android Development] Caste23:
Hi Apache14,

What is "HW3d early-suspend" please ?

Thanks for all your hard work !!!!!!!

Really love what you do for us....

CaSte23
[Desire HD Android Development] timon85:
i flashing the last version.... 1.1.1 in the original rom. Fantastic Kernel ;);) everything perfect for now!!! Very good job Apache
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
Note quite true .... you need a few values but 200-300mHz gaps in-between is quite small i will add one more step at 1100mhz for 1.1.2 :-D

also i can get smartass gov to go passed 806mHz but i can see where it may not so that will also be fixed :)
[Desire HD Android Development] remko:
I also have the 806 MHz smartass issue... and I do see a significant speed difference between smartass and on demand..

Quadrant went from 1692 up till 2790...

So waiting for the 1.1.2 version....:p

Grtz Remko
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
ppl with the smartass problem can you check the cpu speed very soon after boot up and check if its what u set to max :-)

smatass is ment to keep the cpu as power friendly as possible without causing lag. As startup the cpu should be at max freq (is for me on both CM and sense).

If people have less than max set frequancy on startup there is a problem. if not then its smartass doing its stuff. In that case if u want more speed id recommend interactive and have a screen off profile of 368 -- 460mHz. :) hope this helps

please report the CPU speed as soon as possible after boot :)
[Desire HD Android Development] xl VipeR lx:
gotta love smartass. its brilliant!
[Desire HD Android Development] enzoup:
on my dhd with 1.1.1, smartass lets the cpu speed go to the maximum directly after start.
[Desire HD Android Development] seandk:
In Setcpu > info > time in state

You Can see how many time the Setcpu stay at a frequencie

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] Bladeinger:
I can also confirm, that smartass is going up to full speed sometimes, but very seldom. Not only directly after boot, but also immidiately after switching from my "screen off"-profile, or when moving widgets on the screen.
[Desire HD Android Development] cxAlex_:
Here it is the same. Now I'm using Interactive gov with a smartass screen off profile, more smooth than plain smartass and good battery life.
[Desire HD Android Development] Rittzy:
What is HW3d early-suspend that was just added? thanks
[Desire HD Android Development] plopingo:
which différence between Buzz_SENSE_1.1.1_OC 2B.zip and Buzz_CM_1.1.1_OC 2B.zip

CM for Cyanogen Mod Rom ? SENSE for all sense based rom ?

ty ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] flywithme:
Thank you for the update!

Is there a 1.2Ghz option this time?
[Desire HD Android Development] mero01:
Just answered your own question there buddy :P
[Desire HD Android Development] mero01:
What do you guys think is better . Apaches Buzz kernel. or the stock one with CM-Nightlys ?
[Desire HD Android Development] plopingo:
lol ty man ;)

what does that mean " CWM " in your signature ?

hum Clock Work Mod ? :D

i go to sleep :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
Its a power saving feature :-)
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
This is exactly my experience too (with CyonogenMod Nightly #8 as the rom). The speed rarely goes to full, and is almost always 806 Mhz or below. I tried interactive at Apache14's suggestion. However, I got a spontaneous reboot within a few minutes (at min 245 max 1516 and while rom manager was trying to download nightly #9).

ADDITIONAL EDIT: Interactive sleep profile 368 -- 460mHz causes a spontaneous reboot everytime I try to download the nightly build of CyanogenMod from Rom Manager. It reboots after going to sleep. I'll try setting the sleep mode to 368 -- 460 mHz on demand, while leaving the awake profiles to Interactive.
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
Back to smartass for me. Maybe, for v1.12, you could step up the speed a bit for smartass.
[Desire HD Android Development] cxAlex_:
When I'm using a sleep screen off profile with 368 - 460 and listening to music, the music sometimes interrupts, only for a small part of a second, but I can hear it and this is unacceptable for me, because I love music. If I use 368 - 806 @ any gov all is ok, but there is a huge gap between 460 and 806, can you add a step there?
[Desire HD Android Development] Rixsta:
Prefer buzz because of smartass...
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
I will lower the smart-ass ramp up threshold , look at the interactive restarts and add one or two more frequency for 1.1.2 :D
[Desire HD Android Development] hamdir:
can't wait :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Stanimir Komitov:
Quick question – what is you experience with battery life on smartass or interactive governor?

(Screen off profile at min/max 245 on 100% priority).
[Desire HD Android Development] iraqisniper:
help

Wich can i choose cm or sense ? I have core rom
[Desire HD Android Development] gimpfenlord:
pls readd 1113600
[Desire HD Android Development] cxAlex_:
I don't know why but suddenly smartass goes over 806 MHz :-P

Very strange, I didn't changed anything.
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
Awesome!

+1 on that. Smartass is the battery-saving king. Interactive/on-demand just aren't. :cool:
[Desire HD Android Development] berek9999:
Well let's see. Do you have a CM ROM or a Sense ROM installed? I think you should be able to take it from here.
[Desire HD Android Development] Rittzy:
Apache, i think the features or explamation of the smartass gov should be added to the front page for people who dont know what it is :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Bladeinger:
Core is Sense-based. So you have to choose the Sense-kernel.
[Desire HD Android Development] SW7:
+1 There is very limited info about SmartAss governor around.
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
I found this about smartass. It seems to have been developed by the guy in this thread for the Hero.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=730471
[Desire HD Android Development] hamdir:
[edit] wrong thread
[Desire HD Android Development] dr.m0x:
I thought buzz moved from bfs to cfs a few versions ago.

Sent from a random location which probably isn't my home.
[Desire HD Android Development] hamdir:
you right its the wrong thread
[Desire HD Android Development] SW7:
Hmmm...I've seen that one, it does give a bit more information, but it still only says it "is based on the concept of the interactive governor" but doesn't really explains what's the difference...he only said that he has "never managed to tweak it (Interactive) so it would behave decently in real life" but "Smartass is a complete rewrite of the code plus more" and he thinks "its a success" ---- again, not in too much details about how/why. I'm just trying to understand how things work so that I can use/tweak the settings accordingly. I know SmartAss is very good on battery because it makes the CPU spend majority of the time on lower frequencies and it caps the CPU to minimum when sleeping ---- you won't need a screen off profile anymore. I've seen some mixed reactions from people - some say it is very responsive and snappy; and some say they experienced occasional lag/freeze. So hopefully when we have more information on how it works, we can figure out how to get the best out of it.
[Desire HD Android Development] seandk:
Sense

Sent from my Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
He's on cfs as far as I read. The smartass hero kernel seems to be available in both cfs and bfs .... if you were referring to the discussion on smartass ?? :confused:

No worries, I'd be interested too ... It's always good to know a bit more about how things tick .... Android noob that I am.
[Desire HD Android Development] mero01:
+1 I agree been using the CM kernel for the day and noticed a huge battery loss/usage!!
[Desire HD Android Development] mero01:
Apache do you compare your kernel to CM's nightly update for addition tweaks/extras ? i mean they cant update daily and not do some meanwhile updates.. ?
[Desire HD Android Development] mero01:
+1 one that.
[Desire HD Android Development] mero01:
+1

Yes please!!!

Would be nice to have info on all the kernel additions . smartass, H3WD etc.

:)

if you have time :P
[Desire HD Android Development] ixinho:
Hello, i'm new to all this stuff.

I've got DHD, installed revolution hd 1.8 rom and buzz oc 1.51 kernel, everything works fine.

I'm setting some profiles in setcpu application. I have 2 questions ?

Which way is the best to go for all profiles? - i'm using ondemand scaling. And what does smartass mean ?

I have 4 profiles , charging/full (1017-1516), battery <30 (806-806), screen off with 100% priority (245-245) and temp >42c (806-806)

Is there something wrong with these profiles and should i do something better?

And what is the optimal temperature it shouldnt go higher than that? i set 42c , is that ok ? my current temp is 34 ( 1017-1516 profile)

Thank you in advance, those answers would really help me :)

Nikola from Serbia
[Desire HD Android Development] MurukanDHD:
Apache i would love your help in some issue i am facing. I have been using this kernel for a few days now on a rooted, s-off, stock rom DHD. Its all going well and smooth but after a few hours of use, after i wake the device i see the cpu going to max usage getting stuck there for 10-20 secs, and if i try to use the phone its tottaly unresponsive and i get thiw error: "Application HTC Sense (in process com.htc.launcher) is not responding."

It gives me two choises. Force close or Wait. If i fc Sense seems to restart and then goes smooth for a while but after a couple of hours the error appears again.

If i choose wait, the phone lags for a bit more, cpu staying at 100%, then its ok again but the error will appear at some point again.

The only thing that helps, is after getting an error, i do a full restart, and that gives me a few good hours, till at some point i wake the phone see the error and start all over again.

Tried flashing stock rom for a day, everything was smooth the error never appeared.

Do you or any other member have an idea on the subject? It really bugs me and prevents me from enjoying an otherwise flawless kernel, and i would really love to fix that error.
[Desire HD Android Development] Walker Street:
The setcpu website has an example of a set of profiles from memory. Although its from another device, it could be a guide. All of my profiles (multiple battery level profiles and temperature profiles) have a minimum of 245. I like to give the CPU the option to cool right down. All my other profiles (based on battery level) have max's ranging from 806 to 1516. I use 245 to 806 when battery < 25% and 245 to 1516 when charging or when battery > 65%. I actually reduce the maximum speed by a notch as the battery reduces for every 10% between 65% and 25%. These are all on smatass. But I'm no expert. It's pretty much hit and miss for me. When I briefly tried interactive scaling (using kernel 1.1.1 1.51ghz kernel), I got the spontaneous reboots during screen off. Maybe buzz will be able to fix this but it led me to stick with smartass for now. I think having 245 to 245 as your screen off profile might be hazardous (too little max juice). I use smartass for all my profiles now. It's best to leave out a screen off profile (I think) when you use smartass. Smartass will take care of screen off by itself (and from what I understand limits the cpu to somewhere between 245 and 400/500 during screen off).
[Desire HD Android Development] dman2266:
You fault keeps freezing after watching a video help
[Desire HD Android Development] dman2266:
Sorry you tube fault
[Desire HD Android Development] shareonline:
Interactive gov froze my phone today.. just wanted to try it, but can't feel a difference between that and smartass.. so sticking to smartass! It has the best performance in battery and flies:-)
[Desire HD Android Development] HTCTourist:
Did a Quadrant Benchmark earlier in smartass. According to SetCPU info the CPU never went to max frequency as the time in that kept unchanged. I would assume it should go to the maximum set frequency or?:confused:
[Desire HD Android Development] gimpfenlord:
i think i heard there is a bug and it gets stucked to 806Mhz max. but it will be fixed with 1.1.2
[Desire HD Android Development] dman2266:
Help with the you tube app??
[Desire HD Android Development] hamdir:
apache can you please update the first post with the current undervolt table? since you increased the undervolt with v1.0.7

thx
[Desire HD Android Development] ixinho:
i still don't get what exactly smartass is ? :/

and what are the optimum temperatures?
[Desire HD Android Development] dman2266:
Any help with the you tube app problem
[Desire HD Android Development] berek9999:
That's three times you've posted about this in less than 4 hours. Just calm down. If you've not had a reply it's because nobody has anything for you.

Maybe if you gave a bit more info about the problem you'd be more likely to get an answer.
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
the youtube bug seems to be there in the HTC stock kernel too so im 99% sure that its not kernel related, although things like BFS aggravate the issue.

Also my CM kernel with the cyanogen nightly have no problems (the SENSE and CM kernels are the same Bar WiFi driver and PURE android serial build option)
[Desire HD Android Development] dman2266:
Thanks apache
[Desire HD Android Development] Schmurtz1968:
Missing 1113600Mhz Frequency

Why did you supress 1113600 Mhz speed in your latest kernel ? This speed is a good compromise for those like me who don't want to much overclock theyr CPU and burn the CPU with to high voltage.

Is i t possible, in your next kernel gen to implemante back this missing speed ?
[Desire HD Android Development] gimpfenlord:
+1

10char
[Desire HD Android Development] Rixsta:
But 1.2GHZ still uses stock voltage... just use that.
[Desire HD Android Development] Schmurtz1968:
And 1113600Mhz is just a little less than stock volt and do counterbalance the higher cpu speed than the stock one. ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] mero01:
issue with adw.launcher not responding alot. On cm nightlys build 10 . Not sure if rom or kernel
[Desire HD Android Development] porkroll:
Eh rryyhca frew :(
[Desire HD Android Development] Rixsta:
Are you really going to notice any improvement with such a small overclock ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] TAGTRAUM:
Battery slow down 71% to 37%.....throughout 4 Hours!!!!!!(((((((( Is it normal???....I'm not using device except listening music about 30-40 minutes.....
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
I have not as yet found any over clock method for the GPU, Try Quadrant and 0xBenchmark see if you are getting low FPS on there GPU tests

Have u limited the CPU to 256 - 768 mhz while screen is off (in SetCPU) aso using the conservative govoner can save some juice :D
[Desire HD Android Development] xmoo:
You also have stock kernell for people who want to go back to stock :p
[Desire HD Android Development] rulezzzor:
ok i got bigger score in CPU for example in quadrant that is ok 1536mhz is stable fine. but gpu is gpu :) any one could develope it?:X
[Desire HD Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
After im 100% i have the CPU stable on as many devices as possible ill look at overclocking the GPU.

This will be quicker when we have ClockworkModRecovery

----- EDIT -----

Looking into other overclocking methods for these gpus it may not be possible
[Desire HD Android Development] rulezzzor:
Hmmm i found one problem photo has not blesk