yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
What I've done is do a backup on my rooted phone and then just transfer the apk's from the back up directory to my SD card for the tablet and install it from there.

Then as the apps are updated on my phone, once a week or so I just do the same with the new versions if I think it's worth it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
Quick question. Does anyone know of a working terminal emulator app for this device? I really want to do away with the stock apps installed on my wife's before xmas.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
Went ahead and removed:

ireader.apk

sam3.apk

weatherforcast.apk

screenshot.apk

phone.apk

bluetooth.apk

telephonyprovider.apk

All seems to be running well with no drawbacks. Seems to be getting better battery life as well, for the moment.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jonbrookings@gmail.com:
www.goHastings.com has it for $150
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
You have to read the posts on Tipster's site, they are really tearing this thing apart and analyzing it, it makes for a great read for me as I'm just an old programmer getting his feet wet in the android world with this tablet and my phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
gottahavit over on SlateDroid posted the following to get adb working over Wifi:

ADB WIFI:

once you have root

go to teminal

su

setprop service.adb.tcp.port 1111

stop adbd

start adbd

you should now be able to connect adb through wifi

To Do this from use the following:

adb connect 192.168.0.1(your IP):1111

it should tell you you are connected and then you can do all the normal adb stuff.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tomh1979:
mine seems to be stuck on the sylvania boot sceen, emailed digital gadgets, tried calling but that's just a joke, may just take mine back.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
Good to know. Last night I was trolling information on the 'Cell Standby' process so I could improve the battery life and p3tris over at smartqmid posted information on how to disable the 'Cell Standby' and took the same tack.

He removed the following using adb. I'm not sure if all of these are on the tablet. It was pretty late and I didn't have time to check:

# Phone.apk

# Mms.apk

# TelephonyProvider.apk

# Camera.apk

# VoiceDialer.apk

I'd probably opt for backing these apps up the /SDCARD folder just in case, but it looks like they were able to kill that process.

Here's the URL for in case you'd like to read the thread:

http://www.smartqmid.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1691&start=0
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
They did get the market working, but it's a real PITA. No wonder they call it the 'Ugly Market Hack'.

Here's the thread (the site has been down for awhile):

http://www.slatedroid.com/non-listed/11133-sylvania-7-tablet-sears-1.html

There are some Google .apks you need to push to your device before you start working on getting the market enabled.

After pushing the files I had to download the Android SDK and emulator, download a modded .avd, sign into Google on the emulator, generate a AndroidID by accessing the market through the emulator, extract that ID from the emulator, and then inject it back into the tablets db.

http://www.slatedroid.com/pandigita...discussion/3347-ugly-hack-working-market.html

Oh, as a side note - you need to sign up for Google Checkout with the same Gmail ID before the Market will enable on the tablet. Once you do that, wait about 10 minutes, sync the Google account and PRESTO - Market is enabled
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
It's $199 now on GoHastings.

Sears has it for $179:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...21x00003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=00382003000P

Note: All the pictures of this device show it with some sort of camera on the front. I don't think anyone has one with a camera.

All of the listings I've seen also say it has 512m of memory. It only has 256.

Good luck.

You might want to try Craigslist or eBay. People who aren't willing to put the time into banging on this device have been returning them by the droves. Maybe I can pick up another one in the Sears clearance bin soon?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
Did you try the reset button on the back? I've seen it but I'm not sure what happens.

Can you give it a push before you return it and report back to us?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tomh1979:
yeah i've tried that a few times, dont want to return it, but if i do i'm going to see if i can get it exchanged for another, i really like it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
Only phone.apk, telephonyprovider.apk, and camera.apk were on mine.

Removing camera.apk will prevent you from setting wallpapers. I did it on mine, but I use a wallpaper app for mine, so no worries here :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
Nope - I was one of those suckers in line at ToysRUs on Thanksgiving night. Got it for $139 + tax.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
Has anyone tried a custom boot animation yet? I'd like to have a Nexus One boot on mine.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
wow so many threads about these devices across soooo many forums.

If we could put all the information in one spot we might get somewhere with this device.

i'm going to try removing some of the above suggested apps that i don't use.

My device most definitely has a accelerometer it auto rotates and rotates a full 360.

However market apps that need the sensor don't see it for some reason. Could this be because of the version of the market that i used from the thread over on slatedroid. any ideas?

the info about the sensor listed in Android System Info is

Infotm Orientation Sensor: 3.0 mA by The Android Open Source Project.

One other thing i notice in android system info is that it lists the model as p7901a which is also associated with an epad p7901a but that device is a 10.2" device.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
I got mine through K-Mart on line, check there too.

mr_skot, let me know if you see an improvement in battery after deleting the phone apps.

I was going to do the same thing and back them up then delete them.

I'm debating if I want to go through the effort to put the market on as my little SD card swap has been working so far.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
Yes, deleting the phone apps improves battery life, slightly, on the magnitude of 30-45 minutes of extra use with wifi.

The market works, but the titanium backup solution with my N1 to the tablet also works and is a much lazier solution. I have all the apps I need/want.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
This is going to sound stupid, how did you remove the phone apk?

Did you do it through adb? When I try and move it root explorer gets all wonky.

Do i actually have to delete it?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tomh1979:
i tried removing mine via system app remover from the market, and my device has been borked since.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
You can use root explorer, but as soon as you remove it it will force close and then lots of random FC's start popping up about unable to load random phone crap, just hit the reset button on the back of the tablet and restart, this should take care of those FC's. Then go into Applications>Manage Applications and remove the com.phone (whatever shows up in there). Works just fine for me.

You can use the standard 'rm' command in terminal as well.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
Can't hurt, Just read their fine print, as Sears is another company like Samsung, they like to take your money but will put up a fight to give it back.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
Yeah, I was getting mad crazy FC's from Root Explorer. I even tried to move the apps to a folder on my SDCARD but Root Explorer wasn't having that either. Things got worse when I tried to power down but there was so many FC dialogs in front of the power down dialog I finally had to use the reset button to get out of it.

So I used the rm command from adb shell and it worked perfect.

Now no more battery drain from the 'Cell Standby' process.

I did run into an issue where I had a widget stuck on Airplane Mode and was getting a ton of 'This feature not support in this release' messages at the bottom. Removed the widget and good to go.

Now if we could get a new update we could catch in the logs and modify we'd be in business.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
We need a recovery menu, too. This would be a big help.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
I've got an 8Gig Kingston SD card and have no problem writing to it.

I've also found that if I give the unit a minute or two after boot up then the web performs much faster.

Tried a DVD movie I ripped on it last night, started up without a problem.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
anyone heard anything about an update to fix the battery indicator and such?

Shows 30% charging the entire time it's plugged in and then as the battery drains you go from like 50% to 0 in a matter of 20 min even though 100 to 50 took 2.5 hours or so.

I have a couple of other random issues but am not sure where to ask about them to get some help.

It seems as though some of these units shipped with a g sensor and some didn't. Mine has one but games don't see it from the market.

What will it take to be able to get some development going on this tablet?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
I had that battery issue until I rooted it and then it seemed to stop. Mine sometimes seems to have a g sensor but most of the time does not.

I'm hoping the update fixes that and the headphone issue.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
My g-sensor works fine in some games and in adw. My 16GB sandisk microSD works fine. I have noticed that apps like the Boxee remote don't orientate correctly (it's an app that only works in portrait, but on the tablet it is only landscape, but still works - just ugly!). As far as the headphone jack goes, haven't tried it really, since all I got this for was to give the wife an e-book reader with some apps. Internet works fine on mine, a little slower than my Nexus One, but its ok.

weehooherod - engadget??? Ewww.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
what root method did you use?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
I used z4root. Quick and painless. It's not on the compatible list but works as normal.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=833953
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
Hopefully they don't try to use their "If it's open, we can only exchange" policy.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
With the buttons on the back this is one of my favorite things it does i turn it upside down and it puts the two buttons on the back right by where my fingers are that are holding the tablet. It makes it less of a pain to use them.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
Yeah it would. I tried to boot into recovery using the Quick Boot application but it just hang at the boot screen for a bit then boots normally.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
Keeping in mind Engadget is probably formatted for mobile devices Android your probably getting a better data rate on your evo then your wifi.

My only concern would be if you got the market working and signed in, your gmail account information would be on the tablet. And with no way it reflash it to factory you might want it consider changing your password.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
All the way across the forum - NO WAY. Its so beautiful...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tomh1979:
Returned my borked one, exchanged it for another, but now I can't connect to my wifi, there are a few different apps on the new one, and there is now no system update app,lol, wtf.

EDIT: after further inspection i think the wireless tether from my evo is not working, but still no system update apk, can someone post that here.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] etrnldrk:
Give me a couple hours, I'll have it up when I get home.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tomh1979:
if you can i would apreciate that greatly.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
Tap and hold on home screen. Pick shortcut, application, system update. Directions for this are also in the pdf on digital gadgets website
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tomh1979:
Problem being is that the app is missing, it's not there, at all.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
Got a wifi tether app on the tablet I'm going to try out later today and see if I can get adb working that way, if I can I think I'll try the dirty hack to see if I can get market loaded, that way I wouldn't have to muck around with the adhoc/infastructure changes.

I too delete the couple phone related apk's, seems to have improved battery and performance a bit.

Web speed is perfectly acceptable and download off my work email works great picking up docs and spreadsheets right into Docs To Go.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
The commands for adhoc from that market guide are only for connecting to An adhoc connection. My adb over wifi works fine with the one command to enable adb over wifi. I will be more specific when i get to a pc And can cut Android paste easier.

EDIT:

All credit for this goes to Gottahavit over on Slatedroid i'm just putting here for your easier reference

He had some scripts for this in gscript over on the original post as well
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
Pulled from the Manual on digital gadgets

mine didn't have the update icon either when i got it and this worked for me...... however i've yet to be able to get a single update installed.......
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
OK I got the ugly hack loaded but when I rebooted I get the "touch the android to begin" and no matter what I do it is stuck there...any ideas?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
after i put the market from the slatedroid post on mine i had to hit the menu button every time i start the device in order to do anything. The whole screen had kind of a green hue that went away after pushing the menu button on the back.

It also looks like the new update that just pushed to my tablet broke z4root. i'm about to try universal androot now. z4root throws an error about needed usb debugging enabled inorder to proceed and then won't go any further

EDIT: Update. Universal AndRoot works on the 2.02 firmware and now i have market back up and running again.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
Nope no go one the menu button...Fing A...I think I bricked the damn thing.

Any one know of a hard reset or a way around this. I tried clicking it wit a mouse too and it won't get past this screen.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
soo the new update stalls the boot and you have to tap the screen then it started the insall which would make me think if we could find what the update did we'd be on our way to custom roms? but i know nothing about these sort of things
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
No it actually boots and I can see everything initialize but I can't get past the dman android screen.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
finally got a response for Digital Gadgets about the issues with my tablet here's what they have to say.

Firmware 2.02 update

On the note of the usb working or not. the computer sees it as usb mass storage device but doesn't allow me to browse the SD card or the internal storage.

There's still no option in the settings menu to turn on usb debugging.

The battery charging and status appears to be updating more correctly.

I'm running it now from a full charge to see what kind of battery life it's getting after the update.

The default launcher is different on the new firmware

as an earlier poster mentioned there some different preinstalled software than before as well.

and to my eyes it was even more responsive that the previous stock os.

edit correction:

it does allow me to see the sd with it connected to the computer with the OTG connection. It took like 2 min for the notification to show up on screen. clicked mount and i can now dump stuff onto the SD card.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
Well after trying to get market on it and bricking the damn thing I took it back and had to fight it out with KMart because they are such morons as the UPC numbers didn't match between the box and the shipping slip.

Wanted to get another one but they only had a different brand for $50 more and as much as I enjoyed having it not willing to pay more.

And of course they come out with the update today, I'm just Fing cursed!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tomh1979:
downloading and updating firmware now, and yeah mine did come with different apps then the first one from last week, also i guess the reason i didn't have the systemupdate.apk was cause they now have a spot for software updates in settings, which is actually the best place for it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
Yeah me too... I downloaded Papijump from the market and the game lasts about 2 seconds before the little dude jumps off the screen.

It's odd the tablet can sense rotation but not movement along the other axis.

EDIT:

Base on this I don't think my unit has a g sensor/accelerometer like I previously thought. Just a rotation sensor which is a bummer.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
Well after the 2.0.2 update I tried the 'Ugly Market Hack' ( http://www.slatedroid.com/non-listed/11133-sylvania-7-tablet-sears.html post 4) to get it working again and now I'm stuck at the 'Touch the Android to Begin' screen.

The problem is I CANT GET PAST IT - I'M STUCK.

If I can't get past this starting point I can't into the system to start adb.

Any clue on how I can force a system update again from outside the device, or from the OTG USB?

Any help at this point would be appreciated.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
to restore to default rom (recovery mode)

with device off

push power turn on as normal

Once you see the infotmic logo press and hold power and menu

When you see white text On the screen release power and menu

You will see a message the says something along the lines of "to boot in recovery press the require keys"

Press power and menu again and it will reflash the most recent manufacturer update you downloaded.

Hope this helps
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tomh1979:
woooooooo, woooooo, wooooooo, post a vid of this, are you telling me we actually have a recovery, which i would guess is a good thing.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] FredOak3:
Mr_skot, I got stuck in the same place...and now they tell us a recovery procedure, sure after I returned the thing and had it out with KMart to get my refund, I went to Toys R Us to get another one but they want $200 for it now!!

So I went and got a Pandigital and actually installed their own hack to turn it into and android tablet, and I have to say I'm impressed.

It's running Eclair, I've been able to install everything I wanted, the only thing I haven't got working yet is angry birds.

It's doing what I wanted and I'll swap out the apps I want from my phone. I have had it with these hacks only to end up with a $175 brick.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jcase29:
Micro USB to USB Female cable

Can anyone telll me if you can buy a USB cable anywhere? My dog chewed the micro USB end !!! It looks like it has pins in it...not the normal connections !

P.S. Free dog to good home ! ( just kidding !)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
http://www.buy.com/prod/usb-a-femal...le/q/sellerid/23962916/loc/101/213271851.html
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jcase29:
USB Cable

Wow...that looks like it !! I've got one on order ! 6 bucks for the cable and shipping ! Thanks so much for your help !!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
Thanks for the tip FredOak3. I was tempted to return mine as well but Sprdtyf350 over at tipstir.the-talk.net came up with a recovery that was easy to execute:

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Hold the tablet so you can:

- Press on and hold the touchscreen, then press the power and menu buttons at the same time.

- It then says if you want to recover press the required buttons. I pressed power, and menu again and it restored.

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Here's the link with their effort on cracking this tablet:

http://tipstir.the-talk.net/hands-o...sylvania-synet7lp-work-in-progress-t463-0.htm
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
do you get an on screen message stating that there isn't a recovery image or can you just not get the device to go to the recovery screen?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
ouch.... no one has quite nailed down the otg usb connection for any pre-os stuff. it is possible to get the computer to see it but i'm not sure if anyone has successfully written anything to the device. I'll edit this once i find the link to where someone was working on this.

EDIT***

here's the thing about burning images using the otg usb

http://tipstir.the-talk.net/hands-o...a-synet7lp-work-in-progress-t463-150.htm#2767

Now i'm not sure how this software he has working works but i would think you would still need someone with a working device to pull something but seeing as my skills with this stuff is extremely limited i wouldn't know what you needed pulled.

If someone who does know this stuff wants to adopt me and walk me through it i'll try to pull what ever you need to get yours back up and running. (i'll take knowledge any way i can get it even if it has to be beaten in with a sledge hammer)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
sooo now that we know how to get it to boot into recovery does that mean we could get some Clockwork Recovery or something of the nature working on it?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] mr_skot:
Well.... technically it didn't seem like it 'booted' into recovery. It's almost like when I did the three finger salute it popped right into recovery mode.

There was no, stop, reboot, go into recovery like on an Android phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bigwooly:
It does pause and say press the required keys or i will continue with my regular boot. Which is what led me to believe it was more like a menu.

Albeit a menu with only two actions do nothing or wipe/recover device.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] f4u5t:
Got one of these guys, Toys r us had em for $130!

So far I have ran the system update of it, worked fine.

Im trying to read the thread and see what works and what doesnt.

Do I just need to get the market apk on the sdcard and install it that way, or is that what is bricking the devices?