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[General Accessories] Myzhar:
I use only"connected". In this way liveview right button re-opengl liveview application.

If you use disconnected the application starts too many times
[General Accessories] de_MarK:
If you use Connected you have to initiate connection from LV device. If you use Disconnected there is a chance that LV application will connect to LV device automatically when it's in the range.
[General Accessories] Myzhar:
This is true... I tried it but it seemed to not give advantages.

I will re-insert this rule to verify...
[General Accessories] de_MarK:
A choice depends mostly on the phone. If you have no connection issues I would use Disconnected rule. If there are connection issues a Disconnected rule will be probably useless because the LV application will not connect back to the device, so it will work only if you try to connect manually before the LV application goes asleep again. In this case a Connected rule is more useful (or both rules defined).
[General Accessories] bitbang3r:
Hi, I've been thinking about getting a LiveView, but so far I haven't seen a lot of posts to give me hope that I'll end up using it.

Just to clarify, is the problem with disconnection and non-subsequent automatic reconnection that it disconnects under circumstances when by all rights it should remain connected (ie, phone in pocket, LiveView on wrist, nothing crashed)? Or is it more a matter of "leaving the phone on a table and walking away while wearing the LiveView as a watch, having it disconnect, and not subsequently reconnect when it's back in range?"

How reliably does it appear to stay connected with various categories of Epic4Gs -- 2.1, rooted-but-mostlystock-2.2, edgy-but-still-4G-supporting-2.2, etc? (I haven't gone to 2.3 yet, because AFAIK the Epic's 2.3 builds all still have at least one major component nonworking). I've seen references to international Galaxy S phones, but as we all know, the American versions seem to *still* be having software and hardware problems that I9000 owners barely noticed in the 7 minutes it took their new phone to upgrade directly from Samsung.

Has anyone found a replacement strap that actually looks good and doesn't make charging impossibly tedious?

Finally, has Sony hinted at any possibility of either releasing the LiveView's source, or at least enough info about it to enable the creation of totally non-Sony firmware for it? Aside from the strap & charging issues, the overall hardware design looks fairly decent. Or, has anyone in China released anything comparable, but (for our purposes) better (by virtue of being a relatively open hardware design whose official firmware is largely irrelevant)?
[General Accessories] diggedy:
some phones have no connection issues and will auto reconnect when back in range, I believe early xperia models, motorola defy and a few others were in this band. Most HTC models are horrible when it comes to connection and now the newer xperia models seem to have issues which could be something to do with gingerbread.

No hint at releasing the source. When it does work its great though so if you buy a phone known to work with it then you will be fine.

As for watch straps, any standard 20mm or below will work with it but normal straps tend to make it prone to popping out of the holder. Ive ordered this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....6156260&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_500wt_922

ill let you know how it goes
[General Accessories] ardsar:
Since the update, it works well on desire hd. However partial wake can be high if it does lose connection.
[General Accessories] Tippfehler:
Unfortunetly my Diam100 (HTC Touch Diamond) with Froyo can not pair with liveview. Liveview is displayed, but pairing is not possible. It does not ask for a pin. (tested with all known kernels) Other bt-devices are working.

In winmo pairing with this phone and liveview is possible, but only as COM-port without software support. Is it possible, to write winmo-software with COM-Port-Access, to use it under winmo?

My Rhod100 (HTC Touch Pro 2) has no bluetooth with FRX06 at the moment.

Is there a way to pair it with xdadevelopers FRX06?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=951962
[General Accessories] Orka82:
My LiveView works WAY better with the leaked gingerbread rom with Sense.

Connected all night. :)

Edit: Some small problems but i'm upgrading my "Useless" to "Usable" now. ;)
[General Accessories] Nydoria:
Got mine Today, updatet everything.

Sadly its not working fine. I mean this thing is _awesome_ and really really cool but my Milestone CM7 newest RC needs to repair every time. I tried this linksys fix but it does not work.

When it wants to repair it shows a 6 numbers repair code. Is that normal?

Wanna keep you updatet:

Flashed from CM7 to FroyoMOD 2.6.1. Works absolutely awesome now, twitter app works, facebook still a little buggy trying to get that fixed.

Absolutly _no_ reconnection issues. I can make calls from the caller plugin, watch my calendar, remotestart apps.

I can show off my twitter picture in the display and making a QR code for my twitter acc that displays on the screen ready to be scanned from tech nerd friends ( that is so cool ;D )

The built in standard calendar app from SE is crap.

i love this product. SE should make a version "2" with really good software support, this thing is worth would be worth 100 euros when it worked properly and looking a bit more "unnerdy"
[General Accessories] protorix:
I got mine back from repair and now it works fine, but...

yesterday I took it out for a bike ride, using micro tracks.

Liveview Display Setting "always on". I used it as a trip computer.

After 1 hour 20 mins the battery drained completely ....

sad, very sad, it made a good job this hour.
[General Accessories] machmandp:
Hi

I recieved mine today and so far im quite happy with it

obviously i need to see what the battery life is like first but i do have one question to which i cant seem to find out about

The vibration on mine is awful, it's strong enough but when i get a call it seems to vibrate for a millisecond and then does not vibrate again

is this normal ?

as i had a MBW-150 i expected the liveview to vibrate strongly and for a longer time when the call is coming in

Thanks
[General Accessories] Busterwolf:
I got mine yesterday. Keeps disconnecting all the time, and every time I ask it to reconnect, I get a "Pair" request on my phone and I have to press "OK" all the time. From above posts, it seems the reconnecting issues could go away with a rom change probably? I'm running CyanogenMod 7.0.2.1 on my Nexus One.

I also tried fivef's repair method to get rid of the pairing request, but I could not find the LiveView [bluetooth device ID] in data\misc\bluetoothd\

What do you guys think? Any chance I can still use this thing before throwing it away?
[General Accessories] machmandp:
Mine disconnects a few times but on the whole it's fine

i do however admit to using a few tips found around here regarding minfreemanager and task killers , never bothered before but they do seem to help with the liveview.

as regards to the pair request as you say it must be down to the rom as i dont get that with the leedroid 3.0.3 rom i am using.

could you also see my issue above with the vibrate and let me know how yours vibrates on an incoming call ?

thanks
[General Accessories] Busterwolf:
Thanks for the reply. Guess I can't do much about the pairing issue for now...

As for your vibrate issue, it's a bit weird actually. I just tried it right now and here's how it behaves: it vibrates twice upon a call and then never does until the call is either answered or missed. However, if you mute the phone using the "right button on the liveview" when you first get a call, it will continue to vibrate till the end!

FYI - I'm on the latest update from Sony Ericsson for the Liveview.
[General Accessories] machmandp:
ok thanks

at least i know it's not faulty so i dont need to send it back

lets hope SE actually give a damn about one of their products for a change and really try to fix these issues , if not i dont think i will ever get a sony item again.
[General Accessories] mrmrmrmr:
My liveview hangs on watch screen after turn on. How can i factory reset this?

thanks.
[General Accessories] MorningWon:
live view and SHW-M180L Galaxy Tab

Hi all

I have the fully updated live view with the latest software from the market connecting with the Galaxy Tab model SHW-M180L (Korean Version)

Issues

Connection issues, constantly disconnects.

Vibrates once briefly when call is received. (issue or by design? one isn't enough)

No SMS messages on Live view

No Calender on Live View

What I have done to fix it

Factor reset my phone

reinstalled live view firmware

reinstalled live view software on phone

modified keys under bloothd folder as recommended in these forums (to fix connection issues)

SMS actually used to work if I installed handcent SMS app but after the last firmware/software update it is always 1 text message behind.

Example: i receive text 1 no text on live view, I receive text 2, text 1 shows up on live view ect.

Never worked with stock SMS app

Anyone have any experience with the live view and the SHW-M180L Galaxy Tab?

Anyone try a custom ROM on SHW-M180L to resolve these issues?

I posted on the sony erricson support forums, no answers.

Specs:

Galaxy Tab SHW-M180L

Firmware version:2.2.1

Baseband version:M180L.EC21.1048LT

Kernel:2.6.32.9

PDA:M180L.ED25.2145

Phone:M180L.EC21.1048.LT

INAND:DL20

Live view software version 1.0.A.0.18

Any help would be greatly appreciated
[General Accessories] Tippfehler:
My BT-PIN of LV has 6 digits.

Do I have to change

6C:23:B9:9B:4A:85 5AF503E766858EA7916D46C16DD31A34 4 -1

to

6C:23:B9:9B:4A:85 5AF503E766858EA7916D46C16DD31A34 0 6

?

The device is paired, but can not connect.

If I try to connect LV, my BT is switching off an on all 3 seconds and I have to reboot my phone, to get BT working.
[General Accessories] 2token2:
I've got Swedish galaxy tab with overcome beta 2 rom (gingerbread). Works OK.. calendar SMS Facebook ...but I've also got disconnecting problems, a work around for this is to install automateit from market and add a rule to start the liveview app whenever the liveview connects to Bluetooth... it's not perfect but it works better...
[General Accessories] max2ict:
I have been using LV with the Samsung Galaxy Tab for 3 weeks and both work like a dream. The only time I experience a disconnection problem is when I am out of range, I use the followings LV applications:

Clock

Message

Music

Calender
[General Accessories] Neaw:
Change the last two numbers.

6C:23:B9:9B:4A:85 5AF503E766858EA7916D46C16DD31A34 4 -1

to

6C:23:B9:9B:4A:85 5AF503E766858EA7916D46C16DD31A34 0 4
[General Accessories] Tippfehler:
Thanks, but my phone has problems to connect with LV.

I have tried an HTC Wildfire and it is connecting and the LV shows date and time and I can select plugins.

With my no-native-android HTC Touch Pro2 or my old Diamond, the LV can pair, but not connect.

The time ist still 0:00.
[General Accessories] 2token2:
I tried to kill the Bluetooth sharing service, it actually helps with the connection problem for me....
[General Accessories] Tippfehler:
How can I kill BT sharing service?

I do not find this service running on my device.
[General Accessories] 2token2:
Hmm its called something else, hang on ill find it for you.

Bluetooth pbap service.

It might show up with a different name in running services list depending on your locale settings....
[General Accessories] Tippfehler:
I don´t have this service, I have only [bluetoothd -n] running (ps).
[General Accessories] 2token2:
What i did to permanently disable this service was to rename /system /app/ BluetoothPbap.apk to BluetoothPbap.apk.bak.

Works for me anyway .....
[General Accessories] Tippfehler:
Thanks,

I have deleted the Bluetooth share (bluetooth.apk) and a pbap section in my init.froyo.rc without luck.

If I start the Liveview app, BT is switching off and on. (Just the LV-app is started, LV is not connected all the time.)

The logs for LiveView with HTC Rhodium 100 and Diamond 100 (FRX06) are attached.

----Edit----

I hope a developer can find the problem in the attached the log-files.

The attached BT-LV-Wildfire.log is from a LiveView compatible phone with LV running.
[General Accessories] Drakosha:
(TUTORIAL) - LiveView reconnect issue solved

Fivef, you're genius! :) You actually made this half-incomplete device usable!!!

People, I really think this information should be sicked to the first page, or posted in the FAQ, This simple hack changes everything about LiveView experience! So, I'd like to summarize here all the steps for correcting issues, which, by the way, SHOULD have been corrected by SonyEricsson much earlier. :(

Below is a small guide for turning LiveView from nerve-bending hell spawn to incredibly useful device. Root is

required

.

(assuming your phone has CM7 or factory Gingerbread - here I'm using HD2 + CM7 2.3.4)

1) Update LV firmware to the latest one

2) Install from the market "LiveView Application 1.0.A.0.18" ONLY,

do not install

"LiveWare Manager"

3) Install your favorite plugins

4) Install from the market "Minfree Manager" and set "Secondary server" memory limit to 8 - 10mb (this will help LV App to stay activated all the time)

5) Insert "LiveView Application 1.0.A.0.18" to ignore list of all automatic task killers like "ES Task Manager" or "Auto memory manager"

6) Put LV into discovery mode and pair it to your phone. BT window will say "Paired but not connected", that's correct.

7) Using Root Explorer, apply

the incredible patch

from Fivef (this seems to be needed only for non-Sense 2.3.x devices - looks like Sense allows LV to connect without confirmation)8) Find in the market & install the BEST Android program I've seen yet - "AutomateIt!"

9) Create the following rule in this program:

TRIGGER: BLUETOOTH DEVICE CONNECTED (LIVEVEW)

ACTION: START APPLICATION (LIVEVIEW)

Using this incredible program, you can completely control every aspect of your phone's behavior - for example, automatically start PlayerPro and disable WiFi when wired headset is connected, automatically start WiFi when GPS detects that you have entered your home or office (!) and do million other cool things.

By now, LiveView is set to operate completely by itself - no matter, what state is your phone in the moment, just switch the watch "on" and in a second it's connected. No more manual start of LV app, countless disconnects and unnerving connect confirmations. In fact, LV is starting to work better than SE MBW-150 used to work on WM6.5!

I suggest sticking this post to the front page, so that newcomers wouldn't have to search for days (like I had to...)

Best regards,

Draco.
[General Accessories] SuperDeform:
Works perfectly no issues
[General Accessories] Myzhar:
Sorry to be crude, but I am using my LiveView in this way since 2 months (or less fewer)... however this is a good complete guide to people reading this thread for the first time :)
[General Accessories] bungee-:
Just wanted to say thanks for your post!
[General Accessories] Blink1982:
Thanks so far but.....

hey this appears to be the way but.....

wouldn't it be way easier to just launch the LiveViewManager app on startup and "lock" it in the memory just like the mms app or the home app (just like cm settings).

is there an easy way to do this ?!

some low level linux config trick ?!

how does cm mod does it with the mms and home app ?!

i don't want the extra programms Minfree Manager and AutomateIt to be running all time

thx in advance
[General Accessories] Myzhar:
This should be the right way... but I think Android does not have configuration option to keep an application alive :(

That's way applications like Minfree were born.
[General Accessories] Blink1982:
but CM does it somehow

with mms app and with home app....
[General Accessories] Drakosha:
In order for app to stay alive all the time, it has to have an icon in the upper notification bar (like AutomateIt or 3G Watchdog do). LV App has no such function. Concerning the number of hardware design flows and unexplainable low software quality, it looks like LV project itself was some kind of student proposal to SonyEricsson, or had a minimal, ridiculous R&D budget.
[General Accessories] Blink1982:
i don't see the sms/mms app having a notification icon, nor the home app....
[General Accessories] PsychodelEKS:
I've been using my for quite a while already, and I can say, it works almost flawlessly on stock SGSII (2.3.3) without any tweaks, but almost does not work on my Adam tablet (2.2.1), so I would've suggested, it highly depends on android version installed. It even connects fine, after switched off/on without pressing search on the phone.
[General Accessories] el_venga:
I want thank all users/dev that have achieved to make this gadget actually usable withour being a PITA. XD. Just in case some of you dont see linkkeys its because of your file explorer, i had super manager and always got empty bt device folder until i tried root explorer. Thanks again, btw i have NDT MIUI GINGER V11.1
[General Accessories] dproldan:
sys.keep_app_1

I've been using a method that seems to be only available in CyanogenMod 7 for the Motorola Milestone:

http://milestone.bekaakut.de/download/file.php?id=46

Basically, you can add a couple of apps in a file, and the OS won't kill them, no matter what.

The LiveView is rock solid using this method, maybe you should ask your ROM-of-choice maintainer to add it.
[General Accessories] Pyres:
amazing, thanks to you and to fivef, now my liveview has a purpose again :D

the little downside here is that when the liveview reconnects and my phone is in standby mode, when I unlock it the liveview app is full-screen open and I need to close it to go back to the home...

is there a way to make the liveview app run silently on background?
[General Accessories] el_venga:
i agree. theres an app for winmob that does that. its called KeepAwake. theres an android app with same name but for a different purpose. im still trying to find one for android.
[General Accessories] tcvaio:
Hi all liveView Users , my liveview is stuck on this display and could not do anything except on and off. Is there a way to reboot of hard-reset it? I have try to update its firmware but my computer can not detect it. Any suggest?
[General Accessories] hibiskus:
have you tried long holding left button? It usually solves all problems. Also if you can turn it off, than you should be able to enter flash mode by holding both buttons when starting. If not, than leave it untill battery completly drains, maybe that will solve the case.
[General Accessories] diggedy:
I havent tried it yet but from this thread here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1092142

ive been advised to use auto memory manager to keep the FM radio app alive and I would assume it will also keep the LV app alive. Has anyone else tried it?
[General Accessories] 2token2:
Does not work for me... still kills the lv app.... i tried to add it to keep alive list...I'm on OC Gold...
[General Accessories] godashram:
For whatever reason, I can not seem to dl the latest liveview apk version 1.0.a.0.18 from market... does anyone have a link to dl this?
[General Accessories] monkeydrufy:
Sorry Guys,

does the liveview work with galaxy S II?

thanks
[General Accessories] PsychodelEKS:
Yes, and pretty fine I would say, without any tuning or thirdparty software.
[General Accessories] Perfecteagle:
Same issue

I'm having the same issue. Also, the charging light is always green if the device is on. I can turn it off by holding the left button 15+ seconds, I can reset it from being "off" by holding the left button 8+ seconds, and I can enter DFU mode and run the UpdateService software on it, which tells me I have the most recent firmware. I can not get it to pair (never gets to the correct screen, light never changes colors), and I have tried resetting and draining the batteries multiple times. To top it off, Sony Ericsson will not support me because I live in the States. Can anyone help?
[General Accessories] monkeydrufy:
Ok ordered one,

Can I use it with 2 android at the same time?

thanks
[General Accessories] Childofthehorn:
Reflash the firmware and it should be fine. You can get it off of the sony website.
[General Accessories] Perfecteagle:
I've tried that about three or four times now, when it reboots from the flash it goes back to the same screen.
[General Accessories] cvenk:
it does not work good with mine. Will update to con 1.6 and see if there is OK. otherwise it disconnects and does not want to connect back. annoying
[General Accessories] deywid:
how can you change the screensaver timeout ?

I need more time to read the messages.
[General Accessories] gschoppe:
I was looking to use fivef's fix on a Droid X running the rooted OTA gingerbread install... I got to the linkkeys file, and the line for the liveview was as follows:

6C:23:B9:9B:4A:85 5AF503E766858EA7916D46C16DD3B6F9 4 -1

I attempted to change it to:

6C:23:B9:9B:4A:85 5AF503E766858EA7916D46C16DD3B6F9 0 4

but after replacing the file and reconnecting the liveview, the file is overwritten with the original values... if i change permissions to prevent this, bluetooth devices stop working entirely.

any ideas?
[General Accessories] bliblablub:
very bad type of hardware...
[General Accessories] el_venga:
Did you used root explorer? It has worked flawlessly with its builtin text editor
[General Accessories] keleman:
Thank you, it was wery usefoul. It connects now automatically with my x10 mini pro (cyanogenmod7).
[General Accessories] Luna1988:
Guys,

I've just bought the SE Liveview despite all the negative reviews I heard about this little gadget. I want to use the Liveview in combination with my HTC Sensation.

I can connect my HTC Sensation with the Liveview but the only problem is that on every app like ''Facebook'', ''Twitter'', ''All Events'', ''Text Messages'' etc. there is a cross (X) above it. I don't know what the problem is. The only app that's working is ''Find Phone'' and from the plugins ''Music App''. The ''Contact call app'' works 50 percent because scrolling down my contact list is very slow on the Liveview. '

I've read the fix for this problem a few pages ago. But the fix is only for a rooted phone while the HTC Sensation still doesn't have root. What's the solution for this problem? I really want to use this Liveview gadget. Now it's only usefull as a watch with date underneath it...
[General Accessories] dazultra2000:
Just want to make sure you know how the liveview works properly so you don't get confused.

The facebook/twitter/rss/sms stuff doesn't "pull" stuff from your phone. i.e. it won't just download everything that's going on right now.

Instead, the liveview app "pushes" events to the liveview, a bit like sending it an SMS. Until it gets some of these events from your phone, you won't be able to load those specific pages.

Make sure you have configured facebook and twitter in the liveview app and also get someone to send you an SMS when you have the liveview connected. It should vibrate and show a notification above the respective page.

For me, twitter no longer works on my liveview, and facebook works quite sporadically, but it does work every now and again.
[General Accessories] lilybush:
Thank u for useful info.
[General Accessories] a2441918:
LiveView not working

I bought a live view day before yesterday.For two hours it worked fine, then it switched off. After that i couldnt get it switched ON. When i charge it the red led does not appear. Reset is in vain. Can u pls gimme an idea??
[General Accessories] rothariger:
i have one of these, what have to do with it? throw it away???
[General Accessories] Tippfehler:
I have changed my phone and and now LV works nearly like expected.
[General Accessories] AdyCarter:
Picked up one of the "Second Gen" versions of these today (the one with the solid backed watch holder, and already updated). Seems to be working fine on my LG GT540 running this version of Android.
[General Accessories] punshkin:
i think the problems have vanished with newer phones since the problem was that it has been stopped due to low memory.

at least thats my assumption switching from a G1 to a SGS2