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[Galaxy S I9000 General] maesebit:
So, that's what you call driving in city streets. And every time the GPS goes off the track is because of constructions, new tunnels, squirrels jumping suddenly on the road, and so on. xDDD

Mate, I'm glad you're so happy with the performance of your GPS. That's good for you. But if you have so much interest on proving wrong the people that's complaining about the quality of the GPS, I think you'll have to try harder.

I told you. I'm able to record quite accurate tracks myself if I want to, since my GPS seems to work ok in some circunstancies. Looks like some people has way worse GPS than mine, any logically there'll be people with way better performing GPS than mine. But honestly, by the proof you've been posting, I don't think yours is one of those. However, if you're happy with it, then that's great for you, but doesn't mean everyone will be happy with such a below average GPS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
First, it's not the GPS that goes of the track, it's the road that is not following a straight line...GPS is SPOT ON and following exactly where the road currently IS EXEPT for the first two lines after the start. Then I had to go around to get back the right way.

Also, the "Satelite" layer on google maps is NOT ACCURATE. If you're thinking "Hey, the tracks goes trough building" then you are WRONG because the layer is crooked ON GOOGLE MAPS ITSLELF. Accuracy on the real road is within 5 meters. any GPS from any device will be as accurate. I don't know how many GPS or smartphone you tryed, but this is as good as it gets as far as domestic use. So, unless you want to have a military grade GPS, you won't get anything better PERIOD.

And, for the record, I'm not trying to prove ANYONE wrong. I know perfectly well that some SGS has issue with GPS, I even used to have accuracy issue at first. The GOAL of my posts is to show that IT CAN BE BETTER and to help us FIX the thing.

The whole GAOL of this forum is to HELP EACHOTHERS, it's a devloppers' forum for christs' sake, THIS IS NOT THE SAMSUNGS OFFICIAL FORUM. They most likely don't care about the thread in here so, complaining about this and that without trying to FIX THE ISSUE is useless.

I guess you might be pissed of at samsung, but please don't take it on people trying to help out, take it to them...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bynar010:
People helping out = trying to convince people they are wrong about how well their gps is working.

If that's what you call help then u can keep it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
T1mman: look.at the facts. None here wants a good gps. They don't want help. The only ting they want is complain. I offered me to look into this and try to make a fix. I did se one strange thing and wanted more data. But all hatred here has made me stop with it and do things i like better. Its thay lost, not mine.

Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 342MB Ram
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
No it's not, stop trolling and do something else than complaining...

I've given my guidelines many times as well as thing to try, what have you done besides complaining?

Let's get ONE thing straight: GPS works right or not, that's dealt with now can we stop arguing over this and get things going?

Heres the "how to" for GPS issue:

COMPLAINTS: Take em to samsung, we are not samsung neither is XDA. No one here is working for samsung or related to this matter. You want to be heard, fine, then do it to the ones that CAN give a damm...

TEST, TRYOUT, RESULTS, THEORIES: You are where you need to be. You have something to contribute? Facts, tryes, tracks, test and so on, they are WELCOME and WILL HELP others.

My god... feels like a kindergarden here, always having to argue about useless things...

DamianGto: I get your point, but going away in silence isn't helping anyone...some of us still beleives in finding and fixing stuff!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cba1986:
my two cents driving with mytracks on a cloudy day.

http://maps.google.com.ar/maps/ms?i....650456,-58.551571&spn=0.013927,0.033023&z=16
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
Still waiting your good tracks
[Galaxy S I9000 General] milsjg:
You little troller you. I have posted good tracks but of course it is not from DamianGto and not valid because it's good not supporting your ideas. By the way I have discovered that Iphone4 has severe problems of the same kind as Oletros and others. Just Google Iphone4 "gps problem" and lots of links is pointing at the Iphone4 GPS gate. But of course you do not know how to search I forgot, you can not find good tracks in the forum. Foregive me but I can post one of several hundreds of links

http://forums.mactalk.com.au/31/92065-iphone-4-gps-problem.html

Have a nice trolling and do not stay up to late.

Yours sincerely

milsjg
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cba1986:
Good enough?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] milsjg:
Strange one more that have good tracks. We are now two happy SGS owners of 7 million that have a normal GPS.

Sorry that I starting to be rude. But your complaining is not leading anywhere. To start with you do not know if it is hardware. Samsung did some improvement of how many satellites that could be locked in the same time so I suppose that that was a software problem. If I will complain about one thing is that it is slow to get a correct real position. This is common on many GPSes but SGS is worse than normal in that case. This will also mean that if you start the GPS and drive directly after the start you will get bad readings, in some cases for several minutes. However that is not uncommon on GPSes, but getting a real position is very slow on the SGS. I do not have other complaints about the GPS. Other phones have similar problems Iphone several HTC (Hero for example) etc. See for example:

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/27731;jsessionid=B0162F04F9DF9DCFFFC245A792A481BA.app2jive1
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
Have I asked you for good tracks? No

Have I doubted that your GPS is working? No

Have I doubted that SGS GPS is working for some users (I don't know how many of the total)? No

I was asking DamianGTO and no other, he has been trolling about how good is his GPS and blaming the other for not knowing how GPS work, how navigation programs work, how good is he working for a fix but the only thing that he has showes is only an screenshot of GPS Status, nothing more.

He has openend this thread and he hasn't showed nothing.

So, teh only troll here in this thread is DamianGTO.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
I did start this tread but all troll here that did not understand what i did write and ask for, just destroyed the whole point of this tread.

It very clear that you cant read.

The only thing you trolls is good at is destroyed a tread that was ment to give me more data that i needed.

You did miss s chance to get a fix for your problem. So keep whining about your bad gps. I don't care. Mine works and i smile every time you whining about it.

How does it feel to have a bad GPS, troll?

Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 342MB Ram
[Galaxy S I9000 General] barmanham:
Like you would be able to get it working anyways.......
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
Why can't you stop being so godd*mn childish and stop arguing for nothing... Use private message if you have something personal to say...

cba1986 : Care to share your setup info?

Did you changed any settings?

What firmware are you using?

Using any root?

Using any lagfix?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cba1986:
JPO + voodoo pre6. Nothing change in GPS setup.

I have some problems with JPA but is much better, not perfect but good enough.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bynar010:
You're a troll...

NO you're a troll...

NOOOO YOU'RE a troll

NOOOOOOOOOO.....etc

Frakking hilarious.

Hey Damo, hows the fix coming along? Looking something like this?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
The trolls here has made it impossibly to get the data i needed.

So its has low priorities right now.

I do test things to get the lock on the satellites more stable.

If you got a high Signal strength on a satellite it often keep the lock for a longer period. The time is critical for the data from the satellites to be usefull. If you loose the lock on one satellite before you got all data from it then its bad data and useless.

Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 342MB Ram
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Wesleylau:
My track on M40 today (42 miles, 40 mins). I think it is reasonably good.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=110718240503369924897.0004951b844ea2dfab383
[Galaxy S I9000 General] radokob:
My track with I think quite good accuracy:

goo.gl/Vth6J

and video from my application where the track was recorded:

youtube.com/watch?v=S3UY1MxpYKY

Rado
[Galaxy S I9000 General] borchgrevink:
Posted this in another thread too, but just so you all know:

GPS bug fixed with OCLF. Has anybody else experienced this? My GPS was all over the place before I ran the OCLF. Now it is spot on all the time. Fast fix AND on track all the time.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
On theory i did have is that if you phone is fast and lagfree the gps will be better. This has been proven time after time. So i was right.

If you use ext2 filsystem the the gps will be a little better.

So a lagging phone = bad gps.

Lagfree and fast phone= better gps.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
Proven where exactly? It's possible that it will help (because apparently, the GPS is processed by the CPU). However, it's certainly not proven yet.

To provide any kind of meaningful evidence, what is needed (I'd think) is:

1) Factory Reset/wipe cache.

2) Go to market, get a tracking app, and go on a jog they can easily replicate, preferably one without many obstructions to the satelite signal, which could affect the quality of results simply because of the positions of the satellite.

3) Factory Reset/wipe cache, Install lag fixes/OCLF/whatever.

4) Repeat (2)

5) Preferably do the sequence again a second or third time so there is more data.

6) Post tracks. If this theory is correct, there should be a noticeable difference in consistency. Note that we shouldn't expect a flawless result. Even high end fitness units aren't flawless. However, the track shouldn't bounce around as much.

With proper profiling tools, we could probably actually prove this properly, because we'd have more accurate data.

Btw damian, just a reminder that 2 weeks ago you were telling everyone Google Maps was at fault for the GPS, which was proven wrong when people pointed out the tracks were fine when using an external BT receiver. So lets not start jumping to conclusions again, and wait for proper evidence this time. Remember, Occum's razor hasn't been proven wrong yet either.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] neil85ae86:
this post really did prove that very few people had decent gps performance since with thousands of owners in this forum, they couldn't even cough up a dozen _good_ tracks. I'm sure if they had them they'd be happy to share.

Now, I suspect if we did this post official Froyo their would be plenty, and if this is the case and folks are willing to post them then it will prove that it was crap prior, no?

After loading the official Bell JK4 and 3 days of taking tracks, nearly 500km worth, my only complaint is sometimes the initial lock can take a while then over 10-60 seconds the accuracy dials up and it's perfect from that point on, even in the city. Pretty happy overall.

Neil
[Galaxy S I9000 General] JJEgan:
GPS bug fixed with OCLF. Has anybody else experienced this? My GPS was all over the place before I ran the OCLF.

Made no difference to mine .

But mine has not shown a problem . But it may show a problem in the future as i only really use it for location as opposed to tracking .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 General] neil85ae86:
well I would say it's fixed in official jk4 Froyo, however OCLF may help speed up initial lock and time to dial in accuracy.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
Still Google map sucks with sgs.

If you use an external gps devices you don't prove anything.

You can also read in many treads that people has better gps on kernels/firmware that's faster then stock.

Even me has seen a little better better with the jpu kernel. Like many do.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] JJEgan:
I just tested Co-Pilot and its initial switch on and find position was fast and accurate .

See if i can remember to turn tracking on tomorrow .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 General] neil85ae86:
maps working fine here

I can't believe I'm saying this but Maps is working fine for me with jk4 and anything else positional, I've had one instance in 3 days when I couldn't get a lock with anything.

Neil
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
Just a reminder, you also said the GPS was perfect with third party GPS tools.. Now you are suddenly saying it's better with a lag tweak? How can it grow from perfect to better?

Anyway, is anyone willing to test this claim properly? I'm not sure I have the time to do so currently. At the very least, would be interesting to see results.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
What i have seen is that the strength of the signal is more stable. That's is better. But still it have not change the fact that the gps in my sgs still is very good.

You can go to speedmod tread and read there about the improvement of the gps. I get reports from people and i read about people that has better gps with faster kernels.

**Using my own JPU kernel, z4mod, 339MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**
[Galaxy S I9000 General] JJEgan:
Test of signal pickup over 25 miles by car using My Tracks .

Phone in coat pocket not on the dashboard so not a perfect signal .

Result almost a tight track with the odd slight deviation from the road suppose that was due to not the best signal in a coat pocket .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
Any tracks though? What we really need to see is how they vary..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] JJEgan:
Variation minor and acceptable with a poor signal position .

Will test further .

One question is How accurate is GPS supposed to be and how accurate is it normally .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Necrolust:
Okay.

This is with JM2:

http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?ie...811,174.659357&spn=0.014185,0.027874&t=h&z=16

This is with JPO:

http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?ie...8983,174.65925&spn=0.014185,0.027874&t=h&z=16

This is with JPU:

http://maps.google.co.nz/maps/ms?ie...39103,174.6591&spn=0.014185,0.027874&t=h&z=16

Keep in mind my phone is in my back pocket during all of these. I think I mayyy have screwed up with JPO as I had the phone screen out in my back pocket where on JPU I definately had the phone backplate-out and JM2 I am unsure of which way I had the phone facing.

Have to say its the best on JPU. Looks like its worse in one spot but I actually crossed the road then whereas on JM2 I didn't.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
Despite what he says, he knows nothing about GPS's
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
How accurate do you WANT it to be.

To give you an idea, for navigation purposes, it simply doesn't need to bounce around too much when you zoom in. For navigation, if roads are 50m apart, 25m accuracy will probably work fine. Provided the signal is stable. But, the better the signal, theoretically, the better it will respond when incorrect turns are made. The faster the vehicle, the more important that refresh rate becomes.

Fitness is a whole other ballpark. You can't place your GPS in an optimal position, you are jogging under trees (as opposed to a large gap between them), and if the signal sways significantly, you appear a lot more fit than you actually are. You can go to connect.garmin.com, explore and search for Garmin Forerunner 305 (or other devices) to get an idea of how pro devices perform. One example is: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/8062696 . You'll notice it isn't perfect, but it isn't far off perfect..

There isn't a right or wrong for accuracy, and that's part of the problem. Ask yourself what your own needs are, and compare with other devices. Because, if you are only using it for driving, your GPS actually doesn't need to work well.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zorxd:
The thing is that you can't conclude that it would have worked 100% perfect if the phone wasn't in your coat.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] JJEgan:
How accurate do you WANT it to be.

Thanks for the reply as accurate as i need it to be >> which in my case/view it is .

The thing is that you can't conclude that it would have worked 100% perfect if the phone wasn't in your coat.

One would presume that overall a position that picks up the best GPS signals is ideal . I already know that my windscreen holder for the phone is not best position . But as above good enough for me .

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 General] JJEgan:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?hl...119122169988331878.00049760b3eaa0604d187&z=13

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?hl...119122169988331878.00049760b094ddcf89a32&z=12

jje
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Necrolust:
Next time I go for a run I'll hold my phone in my hand and see what happens.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Necrolust:
Exactly. Driving is perfectly fine with my GPS. I do not need 0.0001m accuracy. As for the fitness, as I smoke and I'm not very fit, as long as my overall run is accurate within ~100m (total distance run, that means like - straying of my track adds up to that in total) is fine with me. I honestly think half the "issue" with my run tracks is that my phone is in my pocket. You seem to live in Auckland, do you know where to get an arm band locally?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
I'm in Australia.. For the example I used another guy's tracks (he has the same forerunner unit as myself). I didn't post one of my tracks (although, I have plenty from the same device).

As for myself, whilst I haven't had time to prove it yet, GPS whilst driving feels a bit better on JPY, but I suspect the sensitivity is a bit rubbish on the actual unit honestly (that's unproven too though)...

(Edited to clarify that it was an opinion)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DamianGto:
What prof do you have on that?

Why would you drive better with jpy?

How do you measures the sensitivity on that unit?

**DamianGTO Ultimate kernel. 350MB Ram. 600HZ. all ext2. Steam Rom. Js5**
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Auzy:
Fair call.. I have clarified..

In regards to sensitivity though, I did say "I suspected"..
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexh_:
Hello,

i tried to update my firmware. So i downloadet from samfirmware.com the new firmware and the odin-tool. Then i followed the steps are shown here: samfirmware.com/P1000%20how%20to%20flash.pdf

not the steps are shown in the video. But now i reached step "7" and it says i should remove the battery to restart. HOW CAN I DO THIS?

At this time, my galaxy tab restarted and i there is the whole time the start screen which says "Galaxy Tab .............. Samsung".

Can i switch the Tab manually off to reach the Download Mode again?

Thx a lot
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adolfotregosa:
press and keep pressing power button and vol down --> download mode

press and keep pressing power button --> restart tab
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cocoe68:
You cam press power button for few seconds to power down. If you need to start 'download' mode, once you powered down device, press three button at same time, down+exit+power, it will appear download mode on screen.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xexes:
My US Tmo manual says "Note: You cannot remove the device's back cover and battery."

But the UK manual says:

•	Handle and dispose of batteries and chargers with care

Use only Samsung-approved batteries and chargers specifically designed for your device.

• Incompatible batteries and chargers can cause serious injuries or damage to your device.r damage to your device.

______________

Altho it does not give instructions for replacing the battery...

So looks like US versions can't be replaced... at least by us.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ConceptVBS:
UK people are smoking the hashish. :D
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xexes:
Ha.... they are both Samsung manuals! Tres bizarre.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yamen.meddeb:
Press and keep pressing power button and vol up --> Recovery mode
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chefdave12118:
Wow. Delayed reaction. :)
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dpaik:
Beware of fw's from samfirmaware. They have locked bootloaders and youll permanently lock up ur device from installing custom roms and root.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] btyork:
This isn't entirely accurate... As a method/exploit has been created to unlock the bootloaders, and I'm fairly certain it works for any firmware with a locked bootloader... I could be wrong there too though.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sopheaknhek:
my galaxy tap now can't get into download mod or recovery. How should i do?
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avenir11:
Try TO charge int through the wall charger foto atto least 4 hours then boot download volume down and power toghether tor few secs... redo operation or installing fw
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgsoneofthefirst:
You have to press the power button for a while (min 5 sec) after this you have to load the tab for 4h.........

Whrn its done press thr volume DOWN button and the power button for a second.now you are in the download mode and you can flash the gb stock rom and the kernel from team.overcome.net.with this you have a really god base for the ics rom.............(if you want it.....:-) )
[EVO 4G General] kenifer:
I just installed an application to monitor my phones and its works flawless, but leave the application icon on the notification bar and disable (don’t matter what application icon) the "tap to Clear notifications". The intent is to run the app stealth! There is any way to go around this or an app that can either turn-on the “tap to Clear notifications” or allow me to manage what icons will be displayed

Thanks for any help
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wolf6621:
I have a big problem. How I add loox t830 driver to the android(i don't find anything about it or i don't understand), beacause i'm a newbie, that's why i write here.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ashirviskas:
Porting kernel, any help will be accepted ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Smokexz:
I know, if I wanted Android, why get my WP7? Well I actually wanted both, and was sort of hopeful that someone would port it. I am just curious, I know as of now the devices haven't even been hacked yet, but I know people have opened the devices and messed with the internals. Does anyone think any OS could be installed? I would love to have Android on this huge screen. I know the HD2 had a port that works well. Yes, I know it is a little too soon to tell but as of now does anyone have plans to do so?
[Windows Phone 7 General] jz9833:
it could be possible but would be awkward due to there only being 3 buttons instead of 4.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Smokexz:
the camera shutter button could be search or you could just not have a search key, Android doesn't need the search hardware key.

BACK KEY could be back

WINDOWS KEY could be home

SEARCH KEY could be menu
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
given how open android is... whoever goes to the effort could easily map the camera button to the actual camera application...

but give it time, i'm sure someone will try and get it done.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fosormic:
That would make me really keep my HD7. Love the hardware, so sleek but the software is too incomplete right now. Being able to dual boot or at least switch OSs would be freakin' awesome.

The HD7 seems to have the same boot sequence/software that all the other HTC devices, which is a starting point...
[Windows Phone 7 General] lip:
Right now there is so much better android hardware available in my opinion...I'd rather go the other way and put WP7 on an Android phone