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[Android Apps and Games] daikichi:
I like some of the changes you've made on the new release, though I still have 2 issues:

a) tab key still doesn't work anywhere (maybe you didn't get a chance to play with it yet)

b) I hate to be critical since I love the keyboard so, but I really don't think the Enter key is a good place to have a long press (in this case you've moved the (non-working) tab button there amongst others). I think it sets one up to accidentally hit Enter before one is ready. This seems potentially far more dangerous than say, accidentally hitting space (where the tab and other alt-buttons were in the previous release). This would be especially bad if one was working in ssh and thus frequently long pressing the Enter key so as to access tab. Sooner or later one is bound to just short-press Enter when one doesn't intend to. Depending on what's on your screen at the time, this could cause one big problems :)

Anyway, just a suggestion. Enter can be pretty powerful depending on the situation, so I think it should only be an Enter key.

Good job on the new release otherwise :)
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
I encourage constructive criticism, so great job on point b :)

A. I haven't worked on it, but I have found the solution to it. Will implement that in the next version.

B. You are right, it could be a problem if you are using the keyboard in certain apps. Maybe I move it to the 12@ key. More "logical" place anyway, although it might be more difficult to access. Then again the new secondary characters on the main keyboard, makes the popup window a bit redundant anyway. Although it is practical for users who use accented characters... (lots of considerations to be made before making such a design decision)
[Android Apps and Games] daikichi:
An idea might be to have long press space send tab, like Swype does. That's somewhat logical. You currently have long-press-left-spacebar doing nothing, so that's a good place to send tab only, esp if the other characters are being handled elsewhere.

Then again, that might affect people who want to space far out without tabbing...

I guess the only real solution is to have all the keys and their alt's user-customizable, though I imagine that's easier said than done! :)
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
I think I stick to my old plan. I will make the characters in the popup character window customizable and, because I think you have a point, give the user the option to attach that popup window to the return key or the 12@ key.

Unfortunately it isn't an option to make the alt characters customizable in the current Android versions. Not because it is a problem to reassign them, but because it's just too much work to display the secondary characters on the keys. The problem is that I have to handle too much density/resolution combinations (the current tablets on the market have all kind of resolutions and on top of it combine it ad random with a middle or high density). Maybe Android 3.0 will make that a lot easier in the future. Hope so.. don't want to write a display logic for all those screens out there.. :)
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Thanks

- Kifno's HTC Hero CDMA's speed makes it the best hero....THE FLASH!
[Android Apps and Games] daikichi:
That sounds good to me. The 12@ key seems to just pop up a redundant numpad when long pressed right now, so that looks like a good candidate for a custom menu. Thanks again for all of your hard work on this.
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
I've posted a (beta) installer for the Nook Color here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11152103&postcount=33
[Android Apps and Games] nebukadneza:
Hi, could you please put the TAB key also in the 5" layout? Maybe as long press function of the left space key.
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
Excellent idea. Btw for now you can use the TAB key in the popup menu you get when you do a long press on the return key. (this works for all layouts)
[Android Apps and Games] Callyou:
Personal data?

I was looking for a decent keyboard for my Dell Streak and came across this, looks very very nice and promising. During my research, I have read comments that this keyboard collects personal data e.g. passwords, credit card numbers etc, is it true?
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
Yes absolutely. And it sends it right to me. But don't worry I will use it wisely. :D

Kidding. If you activate a third party keyboard in the Android settings you get a standard message that a input method (a keyboard) has access to everything you type. This is true for all keyboards, not only this one.

Even the stock keyboard has access to your data.... Unfortunately Android will never display a warning message for these keyboards... Don't know if it is noted elsewhere in the documentation of a device though. (hope so)

EDIT Maybe I scared some people with this. As long as a third party keyboard doesn't ask for internet permissions or other permissions to send data out, there's nothing to be afraid about
[Android Apps and Games] Callyou:
Thanks

Thanks for the explanation mate, you got me thinking for a mo, lol. I think it is naughty of Android not to flag this up in their documentation(s), or perhaps, I've missed is somewhere along the line.
[Android Apps and Games] nbowes:
Hi. I love this keyboard. Been using it on my Viewsonic gTablet and cannot be without it. I've also been talking it up on these forums quite a bit. I love the layout and the functionality. I have two pieces of feedback for you.

1. In my average everyday typing, I use - and : much more frequently than ( or ). That may not be the case for others, but I would love to see those characters switch places so - and : have dedicated keys.

2. When selecting a word from the prediction bar, it is input with a space after it. Most often, that's a great thing, but when needing to end a sentence or put in a comma, I have to hit the backspace. If there were a way that punctuation could automatically back up against the previous word, that would be super.

Like I said, love the keyboard. Nice job.
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
Thanks for your feedback. By now I have a pretty good overview of what users want and what needs to be added to the keyboard. Both things you mentioned are already on my todo list (with a couple of other things).

1 will probably addressed by giving users the option to change the secondary characters. 2 will be a logical addition to the text prediction procedure.
[Android Apps and Games] busyant:
awesome app, I will try the lite version first.

BTW, I'm always looking for a keyboard which has ESC key because I'm a linux admin and really love that!!
[Android Apps and Games] nbowes:
And it works awesomely well! Thank you for that very slick addition! This is easily the best keyboard going.
[Android Apps and Games] dead.-logic:
awesomely.. :) brilliant works mate.
[Android Apps and Games] Omnichron:
Thank you. I am 6'3" and have large hands...:D
[Android Apps and Games] tenshino:
It definitely takes a little getting used to, but I do like having the large keys, especially since I have pretty large hands. Nice work. I'll have to go check out the newer version in the market.
[Android Apps and Games] djthread:
1. I'm wondering why the tab key isn't working, specifically in Connectbot.

2. Can I have an easy, one-touch method for switching between full and split modes?

Love the keyboard otherwise, though. Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] :
Increasing speed?

Running 3.0x on my nook color, and I find that the keyboard doesn't register everything I hit. Is there a file I can edit to increase the rate it can register hits?
[Android Apps and Games] Sypher006:
hi, this seem like the perfect program for typing that i am looking for but i can't get it to work properly. i install the free apk and in setting > keyboard, i can't enable it. it just hang my setting screen and i am force to crash it. in input type there is no thumb keyboard option. running calkulin&clemsyn rom.
[Android Apps and Games] 360Razir:
Sorry, Sypher...I am not ultimately that familiar with Gtab/Zpad, so I guess I would direct this question to the dev of Thumb Kb (Paul) over at Beansoft for his help. He is a great guy and very responsive to the community.

Contact him here: info.beansoft<at>gmail.com

Also, did you check out his site for the newest beta release?

http://thumb4beta.blogspot.com/
[Android Apps and Games] 360Razir:
Hey Ace...are you on the Market version or the beta (http://thumb4beta.blogspot.com/)?

I have not had a problem with speed of typing on my NC running CM7 with OC kernel (1300). Although, I do wish the NC had haptic feedback.

You could always direct your question to Paul (dev) directly and see what he thinks about your issue. I have been working with him to get this tested for the NC and he is incredibly responsive to the community.

Check out his email address from the post above.
[Android Apps and Games] jackattack:
Two features I wish this keyboard had:

1. Volume control for the click sound.

2. Put the cursor back at the end of the text after touching to correct a word.

If it had these, I would switch over from Smart Keyboard Pro.
[Android Apps and Games] PhilDX:
nice article on droid-life.com today:

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/01/app-of-the-day-thumb-keyboard/

they said it was awesome ...but would be even more awesome if it included arrow keys on the standard phone keyboard in landscape mode :-)
[Android Apps and Games] :
New update is great, love the the themes.
[Android Apps and Games] sunnylovesalman:
This is one of the most fantastic keyboard till date. I am loving it.
[Android Apps and Games] dixonl90:
It's a great concept and i feel as if i could really get used to it, however i'm not sure i'm willing to give up that much of my screen space. I'm using a Desire but for a phone such as the Wildfire i reckon you wouldn't be able to see a message you were replying to for example.
[Android Apps and Games] captainstu72:
Just tried this keyboard now, and I have to say, it is very good! I tend to type a lot with thumbs, and have a hero, and tend to find issues with the standard HTC keyboard due to using thumbs and not a tiny finger. This really has helped, alot.

It makes it a lot easier to type, and the layout is really intuitive. Thank you!

Again, the only problem I had to report was the sound being always on despite being unchecked, but thats only an issue when I am at work. Other then that, iy could make the arrow keys configurable to other keys, or smilies or some such, but from I have read it seems you may already have that train of thought. Colour themes to show what thumb for each set would also be good for people who either use a stylus, or finger type mainly (such as swype) as would help get used to it, but again, i think that is also something someone has already said.

I'll use it a bit longer and if I have anything better to say I will post again :)

Edit: Just found this in the market - Donated :)
[Android Apps and Games] :
Can someone make a new link every time I click on his link it says .bin
[Android Apps and Games] Coxeroni42:
Two things I noticed while quickly trying it:

a QUERTZ layout would be nice and somehow key-press sounds are still on though I disabled them. Why? ;)
[Android Apps and Games] DarkOne951:
I'm liking the app so far though there are a few bugs that I have found.

1. After pressing the shift key, it seems to be unresponsive for a few seconds

2. Auto correction would be nice. Preferrably something you can hide from view if you wish (kind of like the default android keyboard's correction system, but with the choice to hide it)

3. The shift key is a little wonky. You already know about this

4. I noticed that after turning the sounds off in the settings, they are still playing.

5. Double-tap space for a period would be nice (I'm just used to it :P)

I will let you know if I find anything else.
[Android Apps and Games] djurkash:
Just trying it on my galaxy s. Looks good, I agree that different color could be a help to determine space for each thumb.

Also, my thumbs are not so exercised well to move on this kind of space, so must work on it :-)

Anyway good way to go...
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
I'm working on a version where the "zxc" keys will be placed next to the "vbnm" keys (brilliant idea of nutweevil earlier in this thread). This will remove one row of the keyboard, so it will be a bit smaller.

I plan to implement this layout as an option that users can choose, because I will have to sacrifyce some keys for this.

Color themes is a good idea.. will put it on the todo list. The configurable keys is something I promissed before but I have to look at it again if it is doable. (Then again it's a nice challenge).

Bug :) sorry. Concerning Querz, never heard of it. Have to look at it.

1 and 3. I want to redo the whole shift key functionality. I agree it is not working that well atm.

2. Will look at that. But what do you mean by hiding it from view? A silent autocorrection or something like that? Isn't that a problem for wrongly corrected words?

BTW word suggestion, completion and correction have the lowest priority for now. First I want to get the layout right.

4. Well known bug. Will be fixed in the upcoming version.

5. That's a nice idea. (why not?)

I've placed color themes are on the todo list.
[Android Apps and Games] deolarte:
Like the keyboard great idea, but the settings wont work, the keyboard keeps making sound every time i click, sort of annoying. But great I will use for a while to see, no bugs besides that. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] DarkOne951:
Regarding my second remark, yes. I'm not suggesting that the feature be "silent" inherently, but the option would be nice because Android's default correction rarely messes up for me. Hah.
[Android Apps and Games] Coxeroni42:
QUERTZ is the setup used in central and eastern Europe. Can't post the wiki-link to it, as I am not allowed for outside links.

There is also AZERTY-layout for french people. Including those two would be excellent so non-english users don't have to adapt to a new layout.
[Android Apps and Games] FrostyWolf359:
Its a great keyboard. Very nice idea. The only thing is the landscape view.... thats a bit of a fail. I think a standard qwerty is better for landscape. But well done!
[Android Apps and Games] alovell83:
Appleflap

Another good looking app you have, saw it on the XDA Android RSS, congrats. I have a (kind of) suggestion, perhaps half-request. Any chance you can add extra language inputs? Personally, I strongly desire a better keyboard that utilizes both English and Korean input. However, you might get more benefit from a Chinese/Japanese input or something. I don't know if that'd require an alternative release or if you can program it/them to be enabled/disabled (not that I've ever seen a keyboard app that enables/disables a language input). Personally, I hate having to switch keyboards to use Korean and Samsung's default keyboard sucks, I assume that this isn't just the case with the Korean keyboard so it's just a thought for you depending on how hard it'd be to initially program and then the potential for additional support.

Just let me know, it might be able to be a big hit over in the XDA Korean SGS forum and I'd post it there (I've already linked to this thread since we've recently discussed keyboards). Either way, good luck and I'll try this out a bit more tomorrow and see if I can offer any constructive feedback, it's pretty late here. Initially I didn't love the placement of "t" but I think it's in the right place :rolleyes: big help I am...;)
[Android Apps and Games] Mega Maniac:
May be because I'm running Android on my HD2, but after install although the application is there user settings there is no way for me to select the keyboard when writing a text or email, or under the settings menu.

Shame, as it looked ideal :(
[Android Apps and Games] SirBrass:
Very good, but I'm getting keyboard click sounds even though I've turned that option OFF in thumb keyboard settings.

Droid X running Simply Stunning X over top 2.2 OTA.
[Android Apps and Games] urufu_shinjiro:
Is there any particular reason android says this keyboard can record everything I type? Or is that a standard warning with 3rd party keyboards?
[Android Apps and Games] nutweevil:
standard warning
[Android Apps and Games] urufu_shinjiro:
Cool, testing now then.
[Android Apps and Games] Mega Maniac:
Scratch what I just said above, I just haven't been using android for long and didn't realise I needed to long-press the text field to choose the keyboard.

I think it will be great when all the bugs are worked out. Can I lend a hand in making a skin for this keyboard? you can see the ones I did for WM6.5 when I was using that in my sig.

Let me know, be happy to help an innovative keyboard approach like this.
[Android Apps and Games] emelie:
sorry to interrupt and correct me if i am wrong -> are you by any chance talking about the QWERTZ-layout?

i can't rule out the possibility that my google-fu is weak today but a search about QUERTZ just returns nothing of value.

while i am at it: please implement a QWERTZ-layout ;)
[Android Apps and Games] StuMcBill:
I realise that you know about the flaky shift key, and also I also have noted that once you start a new sentence and in capitals, the second letter appears in capitals (shift seems stuck) and becomes unstuck when you delete the second (incorrectly) capitalized letter.

Otherwise, great app and keep up the good work.

Sent from my Amiga 500 using Workbench
[Android Apps and Games] TF1984:
very, very interesting. It feels great to use, but the results are pretty poor for me. I'll be waiting for you to build in the normal keyboard options like auto-correction and spell check. Res is pretty iffy, and if you had a height adjustment option that would rock as well.

Again, very cool, thank you for sharing.
[Android Apps and Games] Cal3b:
great concept, this is a really good idea and would be awesome on some of the smaller screened devices.

i do have a bug to report, i have the EVO and i manually cranked the screen resolution up and your keyboard isnt full screen. screenshot below.
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
I haven't even seen the landscape view :D

Sorry for that, I will look at this (important) issue and will fix it in the next release. I think I will create a standard layout for landscape. For now use the utility posted by someone on this forum to choose your own keyboard for landscape view.

Have to get back on this

Thanks for your offer! Maybe I get back to you.

Yes, the shift key functionality does need a rework. Together with the landscape view this is next on my list.

Just download the LCD Density Changer lite from this forum and turn off "compatibility mode" in the settings. Or download spare parts from the Android market, with wich you can also turn off compatibility mode (restart after)
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
New update (v1.1) with a smaller layout. I like that one better myself. Big layout is still available as an option. For changelist see first post
[Android Apps and Games] StuMcBill:
Thanks for the update.

Stu

Sent from my Amiga 500 using Workbench
[Android Apps and Games] dre89:
Very interesting layout, easy to get used to though. Gotta say I like it
[Android Apps and Games] Mega Maniac:
Just shoot me a PM if you do, not on these forums all the time and I'll get an email that way :)

I was also thinking that you may be able to get the size down even further.

If you axe the symbols at the top right and move your arrow keys up here you would then be able to move the space key to the left of the bottom row of letters.

May not work out in practice but would get the size of the keyboard more down to what people are used to.

Also I think that the switch between letters and symbols is a little odd in the way it gets so much smaller. The keyboard is big anyway, why not use the extra screen estate to get all the symbols on one page, one of the most frustrating things about many keyboards is having to search through pages of symbols to find the one you want.
[Android Apps and Games] dwizzy130:
Now that's thinking outside of the box!!!! Great idea! I'm using the version just before you updated it and I'm amazed at how fast I adapted to it! I will definitely be downloading it from the market as well to help support this. Other then the bugs you already know about, this is great!

dwizzy130
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
My first design was a design without the bottom bar. I had moved the space bar, return key to other places, but it was not very usable because (as it turned out) the location of the space bar, return key etc. are fixed like the other keys in the qwerty matrix.

Anyway I could do a "tiny" version without the bottom bar.

Totally agree. The symbol keyboards need some work to fit the main qwerty keyboard.
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
Thanks. If you have any suggestions, just let me know.
[Android Apps and Games] DemonWav:
Great concept but bad for me personally, for reasons such as I type space with my left thumb (in normal keyboard and cell phone typing, I only use my left thumb) which makes it more difficult, and I type letters "G", "V", and depending on the circumstances sometimes "Z" with my left thumb (or hand) as well. But with that said, I repeat what I said at first, I think this is a great concept and seems like would be a nice keyboard for people that don't type odd like me. Nice work!
[Android Apps and Games] appelflap:
It was just a pragmatic design decision to place the the "g" and "v" on the right side. In the first version the "g" and the "v" were on both sides. In the next version I will add an additional (large) qwerty layout with redundant g an v keys.
[Android Apps and Games] harmohn:
I'm liking this keyboard a lot! It has great potential and look forward to seeing how it develops :)
[Android Apps and Games] zmaku:
I don't know if someone suggested this before but did you conceder to maybe somehow split the spacebar, to have the spacebar on both sides. In my case when I'm typing I hit the spacebar with first available thumb. If you know what I mean. So if I have used left thumb for the last character I've typed before spacebar I will hit the spacebar with the right one, and the other way around.And in this layouts is a bit harder to hit the space with left thumb.For me though :)
[Android Apps and Games] overground:
Bought the donate version in the market. Haven't used it yet, but you should make it clickable by either the open button on the app page or through the install notification. Clicking on either would take the user to the IME page in settings so they can enable the keyboard. Reason I'm suggesting is because I read the comments.
[Android Apps and Games] nikolo98:
Cool app. I've tried it and it works quite well. I find that I need a little getting used to first. All in all, the sizes of the keys are just right and I'll be looking forward to using the keyboard. Good stuff and thanks for the effort.
[Android Apps and Games] oski252:
SO far so good here. I really like this keyboard a lot! GREAT job!!!!
[Android Apps and Games] kindred7:
Im seriously impressed. Good work man, you have something here that can rly blow the other keyboards out of the water. I rly have no complaints about the arrangement. I cant lie though at first I was a lil at ends as to why the keyboard was kinda divided in half and separated but after typing one sentence I honestly felt at home.

One bug I've noticed though, on my home screen if I long press for the keyboard and I have the small keyboard enabled, it will show the big keyboard until I type something. This doesn't show up when I am in an input box though, it functions normally there.

Thanks and I hope you keep it up and keep those arrow keys!!
[Android Apps and Games] gigermunit:
i have to say this is an amazing keyboard, especially for a right handed person. Hoping for auto correct and dictionary support.

//sent from optimio/
[Android Apps and Games] anakhanjing:
does not work on htc wildfire.. i already tick the thumb keyboard, but does not show any changes. i still have default keyboard. did i miss something?