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[HD7 General] truffle1234:
the so called idiots at MS do not want to give the crap multitasking ANDROID have given to its users, if you are living in your own world (hole) you may not know that MOTOROLA is *****ing about the ANDROID apps screwing up the memory and CPU due to the crap or an amateur (1 worker) multitasking provided by ANDROID... and motorola is also blocking so called crap apps right now...

http://wmpoweruser.com/battery-sucking-android-apps-cause-70-of-motorolas-phone-returns/

It seems there are two ways to do multi-tasking – the easy way or the right way.

Android of course chose the easy way, allowing apps to do whatever they want in the background. Sanjay Jha, CEO of Motorola Mobility now reports this issue is responsible for 70% of returns of their Android handsets.

"For power consumption and CPU use, those apps are not tested. We’re beginning to understand the impact that has," Jha said.

Instead of addressing this issue head-on, Motorola intends to create a black-list of the worst offending apps, using their Motoblur software to warn users when these apps are used.

"We are getting to the place that we should be able to warn you," Jha said. He envisions presenting a notice to users when they launch an application alerting them that using the application will drain 35 percent of the phone’s power, for example, he said. The user can then decide to continue or conserve power.

In contrast Microsoft delayed introducing multi-tasking to Windows Phone 7, despite having the same crude version as found in Android in Windows Mobile. Mango will introduce forms of multi-tasking using carefully controlled and rationed background agents with different behaviour depending on whether or not the phone is plugged in to power or not. Microsoft has also always worked on the philosophy that a user should never regret installing an application, something which is clearly not the case for Android users.

Do our readers appreciate Microsoft’s slow but careful approach to power consumption on Windows Phone or the wild west “fix it after the fact” approach of Android? Let us know below.
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
alot of ppl will be very happy if you sell your HD7, but all those guys who love android will have to deal with you all over the android forums.....

all the best to you my friend...

just a suggestion why cancle your contract, just buy an ANDROID phone...
[HD7 General] sandrax2020:
Maybe just maybe. But that asian developer is making android of his own style to make it work as android. So i dont no how he or she will add options or how the whole thing will turn out to be if there was language options for it.

I mean no offence taken just that the asian developer with his own speach of msg left on the forum in red sounded completely random and complete rediculours most of the sentence. So try figuire how that will turn out to go in english version for android. You might end up been confuse like most of us. But aniways lets not speculate the negative of android. Its just a theory what might happen thats all.

However let alone hope it turns out to be good android for the HTC HD7. I mean i don't no who are the developers who created android for HD2 phone. Unless it was the same asian guy ? If it was then i dont see any problems with english option for android onto HTC HD7 otherwise its a question to state (?) When it happens.

Aniways I can see why everyone likes to run android for the HTC HD7 i wonder how it will look like on this nice beautiful screen. It might end up showing android as a 3.4 sizes screen because it will show a round oval shape on screen below it with the back and forward and home button.

In that case it will make the screen sligly smaller then normal because if the black screen showing home and back and forward. Just like the other new HTC phone that offers Android onto it.. it is a 4 sizes screen exactly the very same as this HTC HD7 but as you can see as it runs android on that HTC phone it apears that it has on screen display a round black oval shape with large back and home buttons making the screen less smaller then normal.

I would hate to see these display buttons screens because seriously this HTC HD7 allready has a back and home button below the phone and the good thing is.. it is away from the actual screen display. So the home and back buttons are on the frame of the phone not on the screen.

Lets see if android will not be like that with these buttons on screen display otherwise it might look less clamish.

take care

sandra
[HD7 General] Fallen Spartan:
Can I remind all to keep attitude and language in check. This is a family site so we will not tolerate foul language or abusive attitudes. If you continue in this manner I will issue out bans. I have already issued a 5 point infraction to str8blackk and will not tolerate any more of this.

If you are annoyed about a post in particular, report it, DO NOT respond to it in an inappropriate manner or you'll only end of receiving an infraction or ban yourself!!

Ta

Rick

now back on topic please

EDIT - Also, a hint, if you have questions, try and keep them short and to the point to help others answer them. Its hard to answer posts which are half the page on our pc's/phones
[HD7 General] a500lbmidgit:
Even if a Asian only rom came out it would give us here at xda a lot to work off of so I hope when it comes out people would start working on translation then on custom roms and hopefully a stock Android rom I hate the sense UI
[HD7 General] mariu$:
well its clear that you have no idea what you are talking about

its clear that motorola doesnt give a fuk about its customers but that has no connection to android, so how have you arrived at android multitasking which by the way is the best available

"and here comes mango"- lol maybe in 1 year
[HD7 General] mariu$:
sense ui is the best

it polishes the android defects like selecting the letter you want is easier

+ you have skins
[HD7 General] smahmood143:
i will be the happiest if you sell your phone or just change your phone.
[HD7 General] smahmood143:
@sandrax i dnt remember how many times it has been told to you that android is multilanguage. you can change it. please take a notepad and write down all the points.
[HD7 General] scrminsqrl:
WTH is wrong with you!? How retard can you be?? Its like talking to a sloth it gets you nowhere..... Oh and one last question why in the world hasn't he/she/it been banned??
[HD7 General] mariu$:
:):)

well said
[HD7 General] sandrax2020:
I was reading the updates for mango yesturday on my telephone. I think if not mistaken the flash thing for mango will be a very dificult challange one because since that are underway for mango. It might be posible that it will be much challange and more dificult to work it for android. Im just saying that because there was some info in relation to flash for the phone. And of course you need flash with android.

I quite dont understand why they create HTC and left out mango and other nice important things but they do it later to make you go buy a htc and then you get rewarded months later with mango. But it might be alittle dificult as it is aprouching for android.

So lets fingers cross that android will turn out to be good and workable for HTC HD7. It will be interesting if allready someone els around the world are creating android because there is more then 1 person creating a thing.

regards

sandra
[HD7 General] Zakkusu:
Hello sandra

On the one side I have to agree with you, if they are planing to get android on hd7 trough a flash , they need probably to calculate the windows 7 security system that will get even better with mango.

But on the other side; only the chines xda developers got android on their hd7 right know, how could windows know on wich way xda found out, how to get android on it.

I got my guesses,

we have to wait, till the arena opens their doors for both, for the mango update and the android rom,

I am exited but I think XDA allredy knows what they are going to do against it.

greetz zakkusu
[HD7 General] trueblackpercula:
I have the HTC Hd7 and as we all no its amazing. the only thing I hope for is that when Android is released for it that it is a dual boot off the SD card so it does not void peoples warranties. If you have to flash your rom and remove windows7 then that will be a big problem when something goes wrong with the flash or when updates are need to keep Android running. But just maybe with all the attention that Android has gotten the people at Microsoft have been paying attention. I can't see why they would just not build on what Google had done and mimic Android but with a twist windows. I mean lets face it its about what people want and that's a OS that runs fast and looks great.....sorry for the rant but I am not really feeling windows7 after running Android on my HTC HD2.....
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
you are kidding right....
[HD7 General] mariu$:
it happens
[HD7 General] trueblackpercula:
Does anyone have a release date for mango yet?
[HD7 General] XPLANE9:
I do not understand why people would buy a phone with hopes that it will run another OS. If you bought a Windows Phone, most likely you are expecting to use Windows throughout the course of the phone's lifespan. DON'T buy a device to wait for new updates or the ability to run Android. If you wanted Android, then buy an HD2 or the newest and greatest. Would you buy an iPhone so you could run iDroid on it?
[HD7 General] Midnight7oker:
It's supposed to be released some time in late fall, but of course it'll probably be a little later than that since we're pretty much at the mercy of our service providers to release the update to their customers. I know T-mobile took their sweet time releasing NoDo.
[HD7 General] trueblackpercula:
yes you are right,But I had no idea that Android was so much better until I tried it after I made my purchase in the hd7.
[HD7 General] darule_2011:
You're thinking is off, you are grouping everyone that purchased a windows phone into one category...that they bought it expecting to put a different OS on it. There are many different situations...for one, someone purchases a phone after research and according to their needs, maybe after a bit, they end up not liking the OS for whatever reason, and not wanting to sell the phone and take a loss, thanks to amazing developers they have the ability to take their phone that they otherwise love besides the OS and put on the OS of their liking.

It's my phone, I bought it outright, and if I want to put the commodore 64 OS just for kicks and giggles on the dang thing what do you care?

This thread is for questions about an Android port - as stated many times before, it's not about your biases and questions of 'why do you want to put android on a windows phone'.
[HD7 General] feifeiyueer:
China released the XDA forum looked like a real video, but of the forum also issued a statement recently that has been developing android.
[HD7 General] dacook2:
I just want to say thank you very much for the great input :p.
[HD7 General] XPLANE9:
I suppose my wording was a little off, but I was only directing it towards a certain number of people who are complaining of the HD7 or Windows Phone 7 in general; just because they did not do any research and decided that the HD7 was the exact same as an HD2. I know that xda.cn has managed to run Android on the HD7, and I applaud the effort, but some people in this community are just too impatient to wait for the release or even search before creating another Android thread in the general section.

I also paid full off contract price for my HD7. Before this I owned an HD2 running both WP7 on NAND and Android on the SD. Why? Because I could. But in the end I just decided on buying a true native WP7 device since I no longer used Android nearly as much. The HD2 was fun because it could do these things than I too hope the HD7 would do.

EDIT: As to the person below me, I was not trying to explain how I received the HD7. I was only responding to the person I quoted if you read his post.
[HD7 General] smahmood143:
not interested in knowing what phone you had before and why you bought hd7 and how you bought it.But i agree about xda.cn
[HD7 General] cmlucht:
i had a hd2 and like it, its now my wifes and i have the hd7.

i like the look of the phone and it is fast, im waiting for android because i just like flashing phones.

wp7 imo is a good operating system, i have had alot less freezes or crashes on this phone as i did on any android phone i have had.

i just want to flash and see what it is like and then i will just go back to wp7.

as for android i have my galaxy tab so im good in that area.

it is a waiting game and it will take a while just like the hd2 did but why rush it? i would rather wait and have a stable build than to just through any old non stable stuff on my phone.

i can put honeycomb on my galaxy tab but im not because its not stable yet.

my point is ya it would be nice to have android on the hd7 but do you want all the problems of crashing and unstable or have a good system for every day use.
[HD7 General] phillipxenxciel:
Would you search before you post? your question has been posted in this same thread over and over again, if you don't want an android port, leave this thread, in fact, if you are against rom porting, leave XDA DEV.
[HD7 General] trueblackpercula:
Well put.....plus 1 on the above
[HD7 General] XPLANE9:
Would you please read my response after that post? I am not saying that Android should not be ported, I am just tired of people like sandrax who are rushing the devs just because they cannot wait for Android (which they bought the HD7 expecting that it would receive).
[HD7 General] djjoep:
HTC HD7 android finally ported !!!!!!!

just googled this and was looking to see if you guys found a way to do this and saw this didnt tell much but watch the video.. I got my HD7 for free thats why i have one and i would love to see android on it... if this thread was really about how to port it rather than to bash people on who wants it and what OS is better, it might have already be done on here!!!!!!

androidpolice.com/2011/04/06/htc-hd7-windows-phone-7-android-video-awesomeness/

here is the link if its allowed just checking hope this helps !!!!:eek:
[HD7 General] R3D X:
False

this video has benn posted in this thread decades ago bro. This guy never rel
[HD7 General] pfc.mason:
Time and time again this thread divulges into "uf you want Android, buy Android." A phone is a piece of hardware. I have the option of putting any flavor of Linux or windows onto my PC, why not my phone? The entire concept behind this thread is to give the users freedom of choice.

My wife and I purchased hd7s with the hope that an Android flash would be made. I am very happy with wp7 but would like to try Android. Personally, I have never owned an Android phone and would like to see the difference between them from an every day use point of view.

I am very excited to see what this community is going to do with this phone. Also, with 3.0 honeycomb becoming more popular, and its lack of need for hardware buttons, I think it would be a shoe in for these phones. That is my two cents. Long time lurker, mason.

signatures are stupid.
[HD7 General] merkcity:
Yeah what this guy said, all we want is freedom of choice not to be bashed on by the senior members (jerks) who act like they invented xda or cry babies that read the same post over and over and vent cause there tired of reading the same post over and over
[HD7 General] dacook2:
No Update yet on the Pepsi ChinaMan for the Android yet it's been two weeks when he posted that topic in xda.cn i kinda thought that he would update his topic by now but he doesn't.

It's a real shame that more people aren't working on android for the legendary HD7.
[HD7 General] merkcity:
Some of these guys on here are scared that once hd7 gets android thats the end of hd2 i myself have both phones and if i had a choice i would put it on my hd7 its time for evolution to take its course so please stop telling people if you want android buy an android phone when your sitting there with android on your old ass hd2 just take a second and think why didnt you buy an android????? And just a little fun fact Transformers is coming out with a new movie this year i think this makes movie number 3 hd2 was shipped with the first Transformers movie on it do you know how long ago that was???? WOW its time for some new hardware and hd7 is here for the modding
[HD7 General] merkcity:
Now Breath!!! Ok i agree wp7 is an awesome phone i myself like the software and im looking forward to mango....but what you guys still dont understand is that xda was created to give people FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!!!! Everything you said was said about hd2 remember???? hd2 cant run android get a n1, hd2 cant have wp7 wait for hd7, and so on and so on if you want this get that, if you want that get this. let me make a prediction I believe months from now a unknown dev that wants to make a name for him/herself is going to cook history

now that seems more likely due to the great things we have all seen done on xda
[HD7 General] bastage:
So I dont have this phone, But just came here specifically to see if it would run android.. Reason why I would buy it instead of the desire is simple.. COST.. This phone is available used for half the cost of a used android with similar hardware.. WP7 is a flop on the consumer end so those who bought them are off loading them cheap as ****.
[HD7 General] 00cue00:
WOW.....you know what.....i havent said anything till now about Sandra(whoever) but ****.....if you are really going to be on here bashing and all the BS you put up...THINKING you know what you are talking about....how about this....learn how to spell!!!! for real! also learn sentence structure, cause some things you write on this forum sound just like you said about the pepsi china man and what he wrote....you make no sense sometimes...how ridic is that....?

Please post and use spell check and grammar check also....do us all a favor...if we have to read it then make it legit and not like you are having you 9 Yr old write it for you....:rolleyes: then again some of it is amusing to read and wonder....what grade did she drop out at!!! :eek:

thank you....2 cents has been laid out on the table...feel free to take the two pennies and by a GED.
[HD7 General] smahmood143:
Lol and every single post by her is edited, still so many mistakes.These days even a 9 year old knows how to use spell check.
[HD7 General] merkcity:
Hd2: I'm the best smart phone in the world muuuuhaaahaaaa

Hd7: Well why do you say that???

Hd2: Because i can run WM 6.5 Wp7, Linux,and Android

Hd7: Thats nice and all but what use is it to run all those new roms when you look like a 1st gen ipod touch??? Dude how old are you???

Hd2: *Coughs quietly* 3 years old

Hd7: I have the same hardware as you do with a way better look and feel, what do you think is going to happen to you when i can flash roms???

Hd2: runs to a mirror clicks the ebay app and sells its self for parts
[HD7 General] slk604:
I laughed..But seriously has Pepsi or anyone posted any info as of late, i'm lazy and way to busy watching my city burn to look.
[HD7 General] merkcity:
No not yet we are all still waiting and sounds like were in the same city cant stand the smoke smell all day
[HD7 General] ibecleaningup:
So after reading each and every reply to this thread I still dont know if Android can be installed on either the SD card or the phone itself.

Any help would be great.

Thank you, James
[HD7 General] merkcity:
All we got is a video thats shows android on the hd7 but no one has come forth showing us how it was done....thats the boat were in right now hope that helps
[HD7 General] smahmood143:
Can someone translate this page? It has something to do with Hd7 android.

http://bbs.xda.cn/thread-7708300-1-1.html
[HD7 General] merkcity:
I couldn't translate the images but from the looks of the comments it seems a dev must have (claim) to put mango on a hd7 im not totally sure but that's what im getting out of reading it...hope that helps
[HD7 General] sbrownla:
2 cents

A lot of people seem to be wondering why anyone would buy a WP7 phone and want to throw Andy on it.

Here are my thoughts: I don't want to get another phone to let this one collect dust until Fall when an update comes out that will make it useful. So much power and such a great phone, but the OS is frustratingly barren. I keep finding more and more things that the OS won't do--and I'm getting more and more frustrated, but I think Mango is worth keeping this lawn biscuit a little longer.
[HD7 General] trueblackpercula:
I went to the Tmobile store today and the had a sensation with Android on it that made me wish my Hd7 had. Can't someone just copy that rom and post it here for everyone to use? that phone even had a 4.3 screen and it looked great. I think the Android build for the hd7 will be out sooner then we think.
[HD7 General] XPLANE9:
I'm pretty sure the walled garden of WP7 would make that process much harder compared to that of the previous Windows Mobile. Plus, the internals of the Sensation are nothing like that of the HD7, which would again complicate the process.

The build will be out whenever the devs feel like releasing it. A June release looks improbable as Pepsi is quite busy right now and the install process alone would be overly complicated. Remember that the HD2 had the ability to flash HSPL for its Windows Mobile customs rom before SD Android builds, which made an Android NAND build one step closer. Hopefully we can get an automated process similar to MAGLDR considering that an SD build from HARET would be near impossible with WP7's lack of a file explorer.
[HD7 General] sandrax2020:
You said: t. A June release looks improbable as Pepsi is quite busy right now and the install process alone would be overly complicated.

I ask you: where did you get that information that pepsi is (quite busy right now and the install process) ? Are you next to him ? (show us prove of evidence)? People love to know evidence. I personaly dont believe any of that and i also dont believe anything been said on that red scrip.. it was strange what he was saying. Sounded like he or she was drunk or it was a trick to make you believe.

Seriously my opinion like many other people are quiting windows phone 7 because its been taking too long. My theory is that android will not be available after mango.. So when mango arrives then there is another few extra months after that to see a great deal about android on the HTC HD7 We are talking as far as upto christmas or starting early year 2012.

If you know who creates it.. you should really tell us news... But he doesnt speak english so i dont no how you would understand him unless your asian.

I dont think its no point in wasting time and hope and hope android be available (soon) no it wont. I allready told you this last month.. people in the forum kept saying (expect android in mid june) oh really? then another indicated expect android release in july... oh im sure... But really people just dont no because everyone all of us are only especulating the theory.

I know it may look good android on the HTC HD7 but rememebr this... some apps such as social apps may not have the perfect pixelation correct design for a 4.3 sizes screen phone that is HD screen. Most apps application will not look good because these apps understans it is design for phones with android that are design for android. phones allready with android built in.

Not for phones want to hack android to be installed.

HTC HD7 is design HD style screen for windows phone 7

Aniways these are some issue apps that may happen with the HTC HD7 unless the creater of that app upgrades it to higher resolutions.. Because HTC HD7 is a high resolution screen.

Aniways, Don't expect android anytime soon and to make it mean i know how frustration it is but we all don't want to wait all the way till nov/dec or even not until Feb 2012 to see really android for HTC HD7

Yes there will be android but not anytime soon... Think of waiting half a year to see any results.

goodluck with that but my husband and i thinks its best to buy a android tablet. Because you will end up wanting a tablet next.

Chao bambinos!