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[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
I shouldn't even bump the thread but...

I spoke with tmil on gtalk twice after he left this thread. I relayed what he said. He hasn't spoke since and I have no update. He started this thread to get serious devs helping him. He posted the pictures to show any potential devs he wasn't playing, that he was actually working on it. The community took over from there with speculation. I have no clue anymore if he intends to finish to give an honest answer. The state of the project is this. It works in the kernel the kernel starts the service as soon as you plug the 3.5 jack in. the smali in the os was next to route the screen out the cable to the tv and thats the last I know about it. He sent me copies of the smali he knew that needed to be incorporated then his work took over his spare time. This is why the thread needs to be closed the original purpose was to invite more devs and that hasn't happened. Theres really nothing to speculate on from here.
[Epic 4G Android Development] compuw22c:
To be honest, if the questions about 'what happened' stopped this would be a nice generic 'TV-OUT' thead. Maybe put the word "Abandoned" in the title? There may be reason to discuss this feature in the future, you never know. Expect the worst and be (very) pleasantly surprised if the best comes...

Sent from my pocket rocket
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Not every project that has been undertaken by a dev has seen the light of day. Tmil got into this with the best of intentions to bring this to everyone and this is how you feel. In that case, I sincerely hope this project never does get completed. Simply the fact that the backlash from the community to the only person who has put forth his valuable spare time into even attempting to get this to work. As a matter of fact I hope this project does get completed in house, and then stays there never to be enjoyed by any of you ungrateful assholes who have to nerve to criticize and don't know the first thing about what makes your f**king phone tick. You are a p#ssy and I'm all for the permaBrick of your phone.

Mods please close this thread as has been requested numerous times, the community is unappreciative of the effort and this thread only serves to discourage any further development for the Epic period from the ones who have taken their time out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Not my intention, I know there are plenty of people who do support the project, the level of negative responses to this project have shocked me, and Tmil. To be honest I don't blame him if he doesn't take his time out to resolve the issues, it's hard to move forward, if they only knew exactly how much work it took to get this far. The thread was never titled "Hey guys we got TV-Out working. The original OP gave out all the contact information for Tmil to get help from anyone willing to assist on the project. The only contact he recieved was hate mail for "lying to the community" which is the definition of trolling. Not taking out 5 minutes to understand what the thread was meant for in the first place. All the haters seem to assume this was a release thread, it wasn't it was a shout out to the community to see who wanted to be a part of the development.

Edit: I see how my aggravation got the best of me and I did lump the supporters into that comment at the end I do apologize to all of you who stood by the team and understand the dept of this.
[Epic 4G Android Development] The Root:
The people who religiously visit and participate in ACS activities would never want him to feel as such over a couple people who probably could stand to get a bit of help. A lot of people on here have more download clicks on those servers than they do posts. We have no way of knowing how many people DO use the search button correctly, just when they don't. I think there's a lot of verbage that goes on in this community. People say there's a lot of people going away, but it may very well be there's just a lot of vocal people going away. It's a weird transition, but it's hard to say that there was so much negative contribution when some of that can't be measured. There's also a lot of defense on here by respected members who love seeing you guys achieve. Some people have a warped sense of how to express what are supposed to be excited positive emotions.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
I just added a edit to the previous post and once again no disrespect to those who do appreciate the work
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Those of us who know how much time and effort it takes to try and make something like this come to fruition know that you weren't blasting all of us Dreams. TMil doesn't owe us anything. I wouldn't be surprised if he did choose to keep this in house if it gets completed at this point
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
As nice as it would be for this to work and the haters not allowed access, its not ACS style to hold something back from the community if this ever does happen trust me you guys will get to enjoy it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Oh, I know that's not the ACS team's style. All of the developers are about making our user experience better. I fear that the recent price drop on the Epic is going to produce a wave of people who don't understand that working with this phone is much harder than working with some others...and just when it was finally getting nice and civil around here too. The official Gingerbread can't release quick enough because people are getting moody right now.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ac16313:
Hey, everyone appreciates it, some just feel as though they don't need to show they do, or demonstrate the complete opposite.

Be that as it may, there is a majority of people of admire your guys' hard work and appreciate all that you've given the community. You had every right to respond how you did, your not getting paid directly for this, you don't have to take it.

I really appreciate the work all the people contribute to this place :)

Have a good day! :D

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G Android Development] willverduzco:
No more trolling. Guys, we're not 12 here. Grow up and stop acting like immature schoolyard kids. Next offense in this thread will result in either a 5 point infraction or a one week ban. You have been warned.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
**WARNING**

Do *NOT* buy the EPIC 4G TV Out cable from 1800mobiles.com they claim to be compatible with the EPIC 4G and it's *NOT* compatible and they will not refund all your money afterwards. I paid for both shippings (to me and return shipping) and they partially refunded my money, lost $15 in a 3 cable order.

THEY even offer the HDMI cable! Do not fall for this.

http://www.1800mobiles.com/samsung-epic4g-hdmi-cable.html

http://www.1800mobiles.com/samsung-epic4g-rca-cable.html
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Too bad you didnt see this thread first huh?

I dont think this is new news to many, especially people reading this thread. Last November when I got the phone I almost fell for it too, but I quickly realized there was no functional tv out on our Epics, and still isnt.

It makes me so sad too.:(
[Epic 4G Android Development] colo-natas:
What a cool project! I'll hold out hope that this will show up in an AOSP GB ROM... and that the naysayers haven't burned everyone out on trying to accomplish this goal.

Wish I did more android development so I could lend a hand. Maybe it's time for me to crack open some learning.
[Epic 4G Android Development] su8z3ro:
I found this printed on the back of my samsung epic 4g box... Tv out may not be possible through 3.5 mm but should be possible with usb to hdmi....
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
If its possible, it will get done at some point. The interesting thing is my box doesn't have that on the back.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
+1

I only have this device will work with sprint sevices.....................etc...

and the emergency one...........
[Epic 4G Android Development] su8z3ro:
My epic was just purchased in may from the local sprint store... Perhaps they changed the box since you got yours....
[Epic 4G Android Development] stkiswr:
On a stock unit the box advertises the ability to play video out. Has anyone gotten it to work at all? I mean, even just the gallery at this point would be nice
[Epic 4G Android Development] Poryhack:
The box could be referring to the ability to play content via AllShare, which has never been an issue. Well, you know, aside from the fact that it's crippled by DRM crap...
[Epic 4G Android Development] megabiteg:
How is it acceptable that we have a phone for almosta year now with functionality that it "should" have and its posted on the box and that we all paid for BUT we still don't have a factory stock way of using it... in my eyes this is really unacceptable...

Sent from an Epic with 4G
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Actually, the functionality does exist. It's called DLNA. Does everything advertised in that one line
[Epic 4G Android Development] su8z3ro:
I dont think it it is referring to media streaming.... Streaming to a network enabled tv and "playback of photo and video on an hd capable auxiliary device." Are two completely different animals.... The latter implies a connection to an hd display....
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
Not for nothing but I don't see that anywhere.

What I do see is that it is capable of playing HD on auxiliary device (aka DLNA) but does NOT provide HD playback directly on the phone.

If anything it might be misunderstood as no HD but yes non-hd tv out..?

Can you post what it says on the TOP, where there are two * (that should give us a hint..)
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Umm, no they're not? DLNA over wifi to an HD tv is, in fact, a connection to an HD display. It's just wireless, not wired. But that's never specified, now is it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Devi0124:
A connection is a connection wired or not. I knew when I bought the phone there was no wired video out...anyone who compared specs knows that too....
[Epic 4G Android Development] aleph23:
There is a connection. DLNA is a wireless connection. The box refers to the "allshare" app we have that does, in fact, stream in hd. Over an hd-capable connection. Wirelessly.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Are you guys telling me that I could have been streaming video wireless this whole time to my TV with Wifi via AllShare?
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Yes, a you are correct that it needs a connection to an HD device - a connection via wifi that uses AllShare. This was questioned on the Sprint forums several times shortly after release, and the Sprint reps always referred back to AllShare
[Epic 4G Android Development] schnowdapowda:
Yeah but you need an xbox or a ps3 (or some dlna player) to do it. And good luck streaming hd through two wireless connections you better have a nice long ethernet cable for your ps3.

cd's or tapes?
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
The person you are quoting didn't say 2 devices. Some tv's have dlna so that would only be one device and if you stream to a ps3 the ps3 connects to tv via hdmi. You can't ever stream to 2 devices.
[Epic 4G Android Development] schnowdapowda:
What does that have to do with what I said? I said a ps3 or an xbox360 or some dlna enabled device ( that part includes a dlna enabled tv which I know I'm not dropping 1000 dollars on) and as a matter of fact dlna can stream to two devices. Or as many as you have bandwidth for. Its just our phones might not be able to handle it because we can't push enough data from our wifi.. but that would be a limitation of allshare and the epic not dlna. Source is my own experience running mediatomb on my headless ubuntu install. Some of you people are so quick to jump down peoples throats just so you can try to prove them wrong its ridiculous. Does it make your balls feel bigger or something to prove somebody wrong in an internet forum? You completely misread my post go get some sleep or something.

cd's or tapes?

Edit: what I meant by two wireless connections is the connection from phone to router then router to ps3.
[Epic 4G Android Development] aleph23:
My new sony tv has dlna but allshare doesn't work with it. Laptop and computer stream to it fine. Allshare to ps3 works fine though for me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
Thought this epic failure thread was closed. Hmph.
[Epic 4G Android Development] darksideauto:
I use allshare all the time. I have my tv connected to my pc. The pc to a router and then I connect my epic to the router wireless. When I open windows media player it finds the device automatically and I can browse the media folders just like a local folder. sometimes the video glitches a bit but I deal. Audio works well.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
To go the other way (PC --> Phone) you can use VLC S&C and I highly suggest you use VPN.
[Epic 4G Android Development] schnowdapowda:
If you have time do you wanna pm me what vpn server you use? I haven't had much luck accomplishing what I'm trying to do with android and vpn.

cd's or tapes?
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
I use Windows 7's built-in VPN. And I run VLC as the playback server to stream the videos.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Robbzilla:
You can also set up XMBC as a DLNA client. Don't forget Serviio as a server as an option.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
XBMC is an Android (phone) client or PC client? I also have TVersity PRO (for multiple connections) but VLC is easier to setup and I usually only connect once.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zman519:
XBMC is a muti platform Media player. Think HTPC, XBMC has a remote app on android to control XBMC on the TV, PC, Mac, Apple TV2 Linux etc.....

Like Robbzilla said theres DLNA stuff you can do with it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Try Playon. Its insanely good and does subs even on mkv files. Seriously. Cost 80 to buy it after trial is done tho.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I was hoping TMillar would make a comeback since they're working on 2.3 for our Epic's, but it looks like this thread is just turning into a DLNA thread instead :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] dever76:
I concur! I've been using PlayOn for over a year now, and it's been stellar. It plays everything, and it's extensible via plugins for additional content.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Kif420:
Once gb drops I think we'll see a return

I hope...

Grapes
[Epic 4G Android Development] hongha_222:
dead project ??
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Yup dead let it die
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
Thread needs to be closed IMHO
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Perhaps we should all just leave the necromancy to the original poster?
[Epic 4G Android Development] hongha_222:
Noway to do this ??

Same project as Fascinate

I will get Epic tomorrow
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
Hey anyone see this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=790881&page=2
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
Different phone, not EPIC.
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
Really, thanks i did not know that...lol

I was just pointing this out to see if anyone with a cable and the TVOUT option enable can try it out...
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
The epic doesn't come with the tvout

Function like fascinate
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
Neither does the fascinate...
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
I tried. I even bought a cable thinking it had to be a special "samsung" cable with no luck.
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
Did you follow the link I posted and try it out? I say that because the op said with his hack he got the service to start but only got fuzz, that what happened wit the telus fascinate but when pulling it out slightly and using red for video it worked.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m4f1050:
I tried the cable from a portable DVD player, and never got "TV OUT" so I ordered a cable for Samsung Galaxy S and still didn't get TV OUT. Maybe the Fascinate has the service installed and we dont?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Poryhack:
It's not something that just shows up like it would on the captivate, etc. The OP of this thread hacked several things into a ROM/kernel before even getting static to show up.
[Epic 4G Android Development] formula84:
There what I was trying to get at, some one like him works need to try what I linked because only he got the static.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Poryhack:
I agree but unfortunately no details on what he did were made public and he hasn't been around in some time.
[Epic 4G Android Development] The Root:
He was working in AOSP on the ACS forum last I knew.

Sent from the American Dream.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Lucho3412:
epic 4g tvout a must!

Any chance any devs might want to jump on this? I'm in south florida and take a lot of trips to disney to take my kids, and to have this feature would be so awesome that I can tvout netflix to their tvs. I'm no dev but from the little I know, I can see that the hardware is ready and RUNNING but sprint has a block on it. Plz devs! At least give it a look. As always many thanx for your great work:)
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
We all wish this was being worked on
[Epic 4G Android Development] colo-natas:
Yes, it would be nice to have this feature. Do you think there's enough interest to put together a bounty/do bounty's really work for getting stuff like this done?
[Epic 4G Android Development] krisman:
I'm gonna say it won't work because there was a bounty put up for this originally and it never managed to come to fruition. Might have had a chance but if you read through the thread people kept harrassing tmiller about this.
[Epic 4G Android Development] RandomKing:
It's been tried. This has been an effort since the Epic came out.

Unfortunately, this is a dead thread and has been for 5 months. And the op has been absent for 3 months. And no-one knows what he accomplished or if he really was even close.

The proper coding and drivers were never included into the Epic and only a few rogue services remained. The best bet is to attempt to mimic coding from the Captivate... a much more involved and difficult task than you might imagine.

As it stands right now, without help from Samsung, this feature will likely never exist for the Epic.

:(
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Yeah, unfortunately it looks like this isn't going to happen on the Epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] xopher.hunter:
I get sad every time I see this thread
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Yeah, tell me about it. This is the first thread I check whenever its up top. I wish it would get closed so I don't get disappointed anymore. Lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] Lucho3412:
Same here! Although I still have hope someone would solve somehow. Any suggestions on a good tvout sprint phone? (sprint because I want it for boost mobile) android ofcourse!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Lucho3412:
Mimic coding from captivate huh......that would be nice. Damn I wish I was a dev!
[Epic 4G Android Development] duce102:
Any progress on this? JW
[Epic 4G Android Development] ugothakd:
It was dead before I got here...so it's been a while.
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
It's been dead for almost a year it feels like.

And whoops, accidentally thanked you ugothakd lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Shinydude100:
He should of released source code..
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
From what I remember, I believe they were waiting for official gingerbread source before they could get any further. Maybe since we just got our official EI22 there may still be hope????????

Tmilllar you still out there??
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
He hasn't posted in any thread since last June, so I doubt it
[Epic 4G Android Development] ac16313:
The onlyt thing is that we don't know what changes he's made or where he left off

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Doesn't matter where he left off. All I have to say as prime example xboxfanj had no dev skills previous to bringing you guys miui so anyone up for the task can definitely get this finished
[Epic 4G Android Development] ugothakd:
We don't have official miui.us because the other dev's didn't have interest. We don't have this because its damn near impossible. Others have tried, all have failed at this...

sent from my always aosp epic
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
We don't have any drivers for this. 4g for CM7 may be possible because we have drivers from stock (there is still a lot of work to patch that in, so don't get excited - I only use that as an example). But for this, we have nothing - no data sheets, no code from a similar device... nothing to reverse engineer. There are holes in the project that we don't even have a rough map to use to fill in... it may not be impossible, but it's damn close...
[Epic 4G Android Development] schnowdapowda:
What a negative nancy.

Cd's or tapes?
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Optimism is worthless when it is unrealistic - it won't change the reality of the situation. What I said is realistic, but that doesn't mean I don't hope this can be figured out - just that I understand how difficult it really is because of the vital components to which we don't have access

And don't call me Nancy :p lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] ac16313:
Hey listen here Nancy! Lol :p

Take a look at the OP, what is supposedly left to do?

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
Lol

And I guess I was mistaken, seems he was a lot closer. I could swear that the last time I checked the OP, he had barely gotten the few components that were already present to work, when they originally wouldn't start... Obviously, I neglected to check at least a couple of updates... So for tonight, I shall be known as Nancy, as penance for my sins ;-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ceelos09:
I've tweeted the ACS Team on Twitter asking about this and whether or not T.Millar would continue development or not since GB source has now been released. They tweeted back saying he's been away for sometime now (as we all know) taking care of personal life/issues but that they would get in touch with him n ask just to clarify with us.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
I don't see what the Qualcomm QSC6085 chipset has to do with the Samsung S5PC110 processor's built-in HDMI 1.3 interface. It is only in the Epic to provide CDMA functionality and GPS capability. Unless it is somehow in direct control of the MicroUSB port as well as the 3.5mm jack, but that really wouldn't make much sense.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
Wait a second. In the driver file pasted earlier in the thread, it references the S5PV210, not the S5PC110 as is believed to be in all Galaxy-S phones including the Epic. Why is that?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Yep. Untrue. A Samsung Rep had the TV out option. Some dude has been in the Sprint store and showed it off and the guy who posted that claimed to have seen it himself. Look through this post, there are plenty of logs that show the options. My thoughts....Sprint asked Samsung to remove it because if you can display the phone out of 3.5mm then you can record any audio/video that comes out including Sprint TV (which is garbage). Honestly, Sprint can go f*ck themselves (no offense to any Sprint employees of course). I paid for the hardware that Samsung built and this will be cracked. We are only 2 months into it's release and once Froyo comes out the real hacking will begin. This isn't the end, it's the beginning.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I agree with this. HDMI output does nothing for me for being able to use it in my X5.