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[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nangoi:
i noticed my LED for sms stop working after updated to 2.1 using the flashtool by Bin4ry(thanks:)).

Already check the settings in handcent and the led notification is checked.

also tried to used 3rd party software (blink) to force enabled the led...also unsuccesful....is there any other settings that i should do.....:confused:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Dan53:
this is already a discussed bug with 2.1 nordic. look here for details:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=825301

remember this is only android 2.1-update1

so basically a beta.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] nangoi:
thanks for the heads up....my LED for sms still not functioning...hahaha

guess i will ust have to wait for the update from SE...=)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mehmehmen:
The led only runs when screen is in sleep. My led flashes just fine when I receieve sms so dnt know why urs doesnt (although I think it will flash if ur phone is timed out to be honest) :p
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blackman778g:
Ok I am going to ask this question once, state all your opinions don't hold back and people please do not start a flame war. Be civilized and to each their own opinion, we are technically the same android family and also both use T-Mobile.

G2 or myTouch 4G?

Pros and Cons

Asking this in both forum sections... wish we could have the same thread in both sections.

{Edit- link to G2 forums thread same topic | http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831505}
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lghorn:
There are plenty of reviews/comparisons out on the web. It's really personal opinion.

Do you want a physical kb? That's one big difference been the 2. The myTouch is candybar style, thin & "sexy", while the G2 is bulky in comparison sure to the physical kb, and the hinge mechanism is strange and loose whether you'd hold it in a way to notice or not.

Also, if you put value on it - Quadrant score on mT4G was about 100 higher than G2

Do you really want stock Android, or would you be happy with Espresso or a replacement launcher?

Again, it's really personal choice. Both are top T-Mob offerings right now and people are very happy with both. Personally, I don't like physical kbs and the bulk they add, and think HTC made a poor choice with the G2 in using an odd hinge vs something similar to the mT3G Slide.

For sure, the 4G is a sweet phone, a beast under the hood, and feels both sleek and solid in your hand. Also got OTA to 2.2.1 within hours of walking out of store.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bateluer:
Its going to be a close discussion. I would prefer the phsyical keyboard and vanilla Android of the G2, but that wonky hinge makes me edgy.

I'm leaning towards the MT4G myself, the Sense/Espresso UI can likely be removed once full root is achieved.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dafish69:
I went off contract last month and have been using a G1 for the past 2 years. When I was looking at phones I came close to purchasing the G2 but the hinge seemed awkward, so decided to do some research on the G2.

Read a lot, not just a few complaints about the hinge, random boots, lose of data, and dropped connections for the phone. The complaints about the G2 really turned me off from buying it. The complaints about the My Touch 4G seem to be mostly personal preference about the UI, with the phone itself being reliable.

So the My Touch 4G it was. I won't receive it until Monday, so I can't comment on how much I will like or dislike it.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bobtilton:
I also had a G1, until yesterday. So far I have to say I am thrilled with the My Touch.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arcadia310:
myTouch 4G hands down. I have both and I'm almost tempted to sell my G2 now.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] waiaung1:
I would go with the mytouch as well. Here are my thoughts from another thread.

I'm gonna keep using both but the mytouch is the superior phone. For me, the overall function of the mytouch is the reason. There are some things that the vibrant does do better though - 1. The samoled on the vibrant is definitely better (I love the true blacks and contrast ratio on this thing) 2. The speakers are also noticeably better with richer and fuller sound 3. The GPU is also more capable 4. Audio quality for media is better (mytouch and HTC phones in general have too much bass and not enough detail) 5. The camera while lacking flash is more capable 5. The multitouch, responsiveness, and feel of the screen is better 6. And the last thing is the notification bar is the best I've seen on an Android phone (the ability to have those toggle settings, change brightness by swiping, and change music tracks are amazing). Everything else, the mytouch does better. 1) GPS is much better 2) Solid feel while the vibrant felt plastic and creaked 3)FFC 3. Camera flash 4. Froyo 5. Optical trackpad 6. Much better battery life 7. The user experience is buttery smooth with little or no lag on this thing 8. The notification led

Wow sorry for the essay guys, got a little carried away haha.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
I bought the MT4G and LOVE the hardware, but Sense is pissing me off so much that I'm thinking of returning it for the G2.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bateluer:
You could install LP or ADW maybe?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Actually not a bad idea, but I don't think it'll get rid of all of the Sense stuff...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bateluer:
I'm debating between the two phones myself, would like to see some screens of what the MT4G looks like with LP/ADW with a stock look.

Regardless, I'm not going to buy either until they have full root. In one of the G2 threads, some one's posted about how newer G2s have a modified hinge design with a spring.

Patience, Patience. :-/
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SE7EN-:
Functionality wise the MT4G has it all. Gps inside my house was within 4 meters almost instantly. The htc widgets are just pure win aswell. I thought about the G2 but the hinge on the model phone at tmobile was so loose if you turned the phone on its side the keyboard would fall open by itself so it was an easy decision for me right there to go with the MT4G.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] waiaung1:
Doh! I just noticed that I talked about the vibrant vs the mytouch instead of the g2. This is really a hard choice as both phones are great and geared towards different crowds. G2 is for the pure android enthusiast that loves or needs the physical keyboard. Mytouch is more for the casual crowd. I would personally go with the mytouch for its slimmer profile, FFC, toucscreen seems to respond and feel a little better, stock 1ghz processor vs 800mhz, and 768mb ram vs 512mb. The g2 has a better look IMO, physical keyboard if you prefer, stock android for faster updates, and the screen seems to be a little more saturated.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dafish69:
There is a new 3 part review on youtube of the mytouch vs g2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X6aaOXvEno&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elfabaa:
I actually bought the G2, and 24 hrs later I returned it and got the MT4G. I have absolutely 0 buyer's remorse.

I loved the G2, but the problem was the hinge. After just one day, it would open just by breathing on it. I couldn't stand it. While there are some things I wish the MT4G had from the G2, overall, because of the hinge, the MT4G is the winner.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phateless:
Funny you say that because I picked up the MT4G on Saturday and am thinking about returning it for the G2 because I don't like Sense. Part of the reason I chose the MT4G was the hinge issue you mentioned. I would never use the keyboard anyway so it seemed silly to buy a phone that had one.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c_licious:
MT4G

Totally feel your pain cause I was in the same boat. Had the Nexus for almost a year until I replaced it with the G2.

I really like how the G2 lies in your hand when you're browsing the web in landscape mode with the keyboard out although I'm not a huge fan of the keyboard mainly because it doesn't have dedicated number keys and the size of it makes typing slower and more strenuous than on the G1 (which I had before the Nexus).

I was also a bit annoyed by the way the keyboard backlighting kept turning itself on and off in medium light conditions without having the option to have it always on when the keyboard is used.

The hinge is a big question mark with some disaster potential. I guess only time will tell. Having said that I didn't mind the looseness too much. I also really like the slick business look to the G2 although it is definitely bulky when compared to my nexus or the MT4G. Overall it's an awesome device though and I definitely grew font of it during the 3 weeks I owned it.

When the MT4G came out I decided to give it a try cause I still had 10 days in my remorse period. The genius button and mysense took some getting used to. Definitely prefer vanilla android. LauncherPro, visionary, and Titanium Backup helped me remove a lot of crap and get a bit more vanilla flare back although there are also certain things I like better about the sense UI (copy/paste, eMail app, facebook app,)

I like the camera app better on the MT4G. Simply takes better pictures. FFC isnt a big deal for me but certainly doesn't hurt.

I definitely miss the soft buttons on the MT4G. The plastic hard buttons feel a little cheap and I would prefer not having to actually click them. I guess its cause I've been so used to the Nexus. I also agree with parts of the Engadget review about the lag of aesthetics. Overall the MT4G feels a lot thinner and smaller though which was what won me over.

Verdict:

I still have 4 days left in my remorse period but decided to keep the MT4G. Both are good devices so it totally depends on what you want. In the end it was the thinness that won me over to the MT4G and the black looks actually quite slick. Good luck deciding and just remember, you really can't go wrong with either one.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] esincho:
I'm not a sense fan either, I use launcher pro plus. I got this setup like my nexus, fast too. And I use widget lock screen app
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c_licious:
Wanna define what you mean by "all the sense stuff"? Not saying it applies to you but sometimes I get the feeling people say they dislike sense because they have read so many times that stock is better without really knowing what the difference is.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bateluer:
I'm not a fan of any UI overlays. None really seem to add much to the Android OS that isn't already there, but they do slow OS updates to a crawl. Even with their faults, HTC pushes more updates to their Sense phones than other manufacturers.

I spoke with a VZW rep this afternoon, sent them an email inquiring about cancellations and what the penalties would be. They offered me an early upgrade, but when I told them I was more interested in a stock Android device, the rep told me that I should wait until after Thanksgiving because they may be better able to help me then.

I didn't exactly plan on buying a MT4G/G2 next week, but this does have me curious.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c_licious:
And so the rumor began.... :D
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsbbq:
I took about 4 hours today between two T-mobile stores to compare the G2 with the MT4G. While my G2 has a connection signal problem and the hinge issue on mine is really bad I was looking hard at the MT4G. While I have still not completely made up my mind I'm leaning toward the MT4G.

These are my comments to who it might help. The MT4G I found a little more lag in the UI than on the G2. Everyone I read reviews from said it was fast, and it is but not as fast as the G2. I based this on opening different things like the phone, then the mail, then the messaging, then to phone then between the tabs in the phone etc. The MT4G is slower to open these in my opinion. I also found the scrolling in the app launcher to be smother on the G2 and faster to open. At my first location the data speeds were a problem and they only had one demo unit. The rep said this one was not to full potential as it is a demo and it was throttled back. LMAO

The Upload speeds were really slow compared to my G2 and the other demo G2 in the store. So I went to the second store. There I was able to test one and the down and up speeds seemed to be on par with the G2 so that made me feel better.

I'm going to sleep on it and I might make the change tomorrow. While I'm a fan of the Vanilla Android on the G2 I think the extra hardware specs and the few extra sense options might make it a choice. I really like the G2 in every aspect except the hinges and my signal problem, and I don't need a keyboard and didn't buy it for the keyboard. I bought it for the stock Android.

I feel like there will be a root on the MT4G eventually and I could live with it until then. There are already ways to change things with Temp root etc.

I guess worse case I could change back to the G2 if I can't live with it in 14 days.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Azrel37:
From what I understand, mytouch 4g will be upgradeable to android 3.0 when it comes out next year since it has a 1ghz processor while the G2 won't be able to since it's only 800mhz. I was told this today by the tmobile rep that sold me my new mytouch 4g. Since there's no perma root for the G2, that's what finally swayed me. Btw, this is the best phone I've ever bought. I have a HD2 running 4 different androids and up until today thought nothing could top it. Great phone!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobsbbq:
If you get one with a bad hinge it might make you regret it. It bothers some people more than others, and some have looser hinges than others and makes just handling the thing a chore sometimes.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c_licious:
I set launcherpro plus as my default launcher, disabled (froze) all the unwanted bloatware with titanium backup, disabled t-mobile sync and have to say my MT4G is just as fast as the over-clocked (1 GHz) G2 I had been using for the 3 weeks prior.

I bought mine directly in the store and got 30 days buyers remorse (not California resident). Online customer service told me I only have 14 days so I called the store and they told me I get 30 days when I buy it in the store. Sure enough, exchanged my G2 after 3 weeks of heavy usage :D (No regrets whatsoever)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s10shane:
look if u guys want the stock froyo look on the mt4g just do this and u should be happy. this will make it look the same as the g2.

well if u want more of the same look as the g2 which is stock android just use launcher pro then go to preferences>appearance settings>dock background>froyo. and ur good to go. then if u want u can have the 3d menu by going to preferences>advanced settings>use 3d drawer and thats it. now ur phone looks the same as the g2. hope this helps!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slowestcivic:
MT4G

I bought the G2 and used it for 2 days. I came from the Nexus one and so the G2 was like home for me. The physical keyboard was nice however i found myself using swype much more. I was not able to get Swype on my Nexus and having it on the G2 was very nice. The day i bought my G2 i bought a MT4G for my wife. Needless to say the MT4G is everything the G2 is with a front facing camera and it is so fast. It is faster than my Nexus is and i hate saying that because i have always been a non-fan of the Mytouch deal.

Anyways, go with the mytouch - it truly is quite a nice package. I hate the Sense UI that is on some other HTC's however this one is slightly different. Another thing i would like to add is the Genius button is not half bad. I was also against that from the get go but i must admit when im haulin down the freeway its nice to be able to hit that button and say something like "directions to chili's" and have it throw that in to google maps for me.

Thats my 2c - goodluck on either choice!

something else to add is that the MT4G beats my nexus on all benchmarks and i tested both the MT4G - Nexus and G2 in store multiple times for Net speed tests. The G2 was actually fastest 9/10 - mytouch second and then the old Nexus.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s10shane:
Ok if u decide to get the g2 u probably wont see gingerbread since u have to have a 1mhz processor. Also if u want to have the latest features u might wanna ditch the g2 since there is nothing special about it other then the 4g. It's just the same old smartphone to me. At least the mytouch 4G has a front facing camera more ram and will be able to get gingerbread and gingerbread will kill off any UI other then Android. So in my opinion the g2 is a waste of money. U get more for ur money with the mytouch 4g.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CBConsultation:
I had the G2 and exchanged it for the MT4G. I couldn't be happier. The G2 was a nice device, and coming from a Blackberry I figured the keyboard was going to be the deciding factor.

How wrong was I! After installing Vlingo, I ended up rarely using the physical keyboard. And then I stumbled across an app called Firekeys pro which enabled auto-text like the Blackberries I've owned.

Then after testing the MT4G I realized that a keyboard wasn't needed for me. I installed Vlingo on my MT4G as well as a better keyboard app called Smart Keyboard Pro which also included auto-text and both of those along with the Genius feature work so incredibly well.

The MT4G is a fantastic device. The only thing I will mod is when perm root is achieved I will remove the garbage bloatware and games. I use my phone for work and personal and don't use the cr@p they put on there. But overall I am so much more pleased with this than the G2.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DinoD32:
Hi,

i think i bricked my HTC Hero. I was trying to flash a SPL, when my phone just went black. After that i tried to put it back on, nothing works.

Removed battery, doesn't work.

back+power doesn't work.

home+power doesn't work.

Home+power+back doesn't work.

If i plug it into my laptop or my charger, the orange led will burn. If i hook it into my PS3, my PS3 says an unkown device has been connected. My laptop recognizes nothing.

If i press Volume up+power, while the orange led is burning, my phone will vibrate 3 times and green led starts to light up. Thats everyting it does.

If i press any other combination with power, the orange led will stop lighting too.

Can someone help me out please?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DinoD32:
UPDATE!!

now when i plug in my charger, the LED goed orange first, and after that it goes green. So my battery is fully charged now i guess?

Would really appriciate the help in fixing my Hero
[Off-topic] qipengart:
Perception and psychology of Android vs. iPhone vs. Blackberry in an awesome diagram.

Word up!
[Off-topic] nirpaudyal:
HA!!! I like this a lot!

How about windows Mobile users?!
[Off-topic] qipengart:
Not sure whether you would like to see what that comes up with :p
[Off-topic] nirpaudyal:
lol, explain!!
[Off-topic] qipengart:
are windows mobile people nerds? :p
[Off-topic] asb123:
windows mobile users dont really have an image. I think it is because you hardly see any in real life. Most phones are supporting android/blackberry/ios. I know one person who still has a WM device (HD2) and I tell him to put android on it all the time. lol
[Off-topic] tjhart85:
That's just it, just about everyone I know IRL who wanted a Windows phone gave up when they couldn't find one they liked and just made the change to Android.

The last person I knew who had Windows mobile only kept it so long so he could keep his precious tethering (on edge no less since he had the Dash that wasn't 3G capable). I told him repeatedly that he could tether with android, but whenever he called the TMO store they said it wasn't possible. Finally I just disconnected his laptop from the web & tethered to prove to him it was possible.

Then, he went and (ignored my suggestion of phone) got a MyTouch Slide and is pretty happy with it. Whenever he finds something it can't do, I point him at a free app that'll take care of his problems.

So, in my experience, the Windows Mobile users image is that of people who just don't research and are afraid of change or were holding out hope for WP7 (which is another discussion for another time).
[Off-topic] xaccers:
We're too busy getting on and using our phones to care :D

Honestly though, our typical view is probably similar to the typical android user, but not ginger ;)

View ourselves maybe like Neo (with all that ROM hacking)

Viewed by iPhone users as some big scary moster, and by BB users as BB users are viewed by iPhone users, and by Android users as Old Father Time.
[Off-topic] Bob in Northern NJ:
Needs one more column: How seen by xda developers!
[Off-topic] steveoidm:
Ha. Actually its the complete opposite. Windows mobile users had all the features that you are enjoying on your android device many years ago, just on fairly slow hardware and an unusable interface. You might want to look up how xda-developers started :-)
[Off-topic] tjhart85:
Yes and Windows Mobile phones were the most hackable and customizable.

Then, as Microsoft seems to LOVE to do, they assumed they were #1 and no one could ever possibly make anything better, so they just stopped giving it the attention it deserved.

They then lagged behind the rest of the smart phone world. The users who still currently use them

Not trying to be insulting to the phones, but as you said, while revolutionary and groundbreaking, the phones themselves were almost impossible to use because of the horrible interface and slow hardware. By todays standards, the OS is lacking.

In a few years, I'll probably be saying the same about Android in its current incarnation.

Windows 95 was a game changer when it came out, but I think that anyone still using it has got to be pulling their hair out by now.

I know how xda started, I had an account long ago with an email that no longer exists & a password long since forgotten :-)
[Off-topic] GreenPAOwr:
hahahah this is great!!
[Off-topic] Anzen:
Love it.

The first one with the baby is by far the best.
[Off-topic] Zephandos:
lol WIN /10char
[Off-topic] agentphantom:
old article but still good
[G2 and Desire Z General] Blackman778g:
Ok I am going to ask this question once, state all your opinions don't hold back and people please do not start a flame war. Be civilized and to each their own opinion, we are technically the same android family and also both use T-Mobile.

myTouch 4G or G2?

Pros and Cons

Asking this in both forum sections... wish we could have the same thread in both sections.

{Edit- link to myTouch 4G forums thread same topic | http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831502}
[G2 and Desire Z General] kinacool:
Dude this topic has been discussed to the...I will suggest go with what your heart says, they are both good phones so what ever makes you feel excited, no phone is perfect and will have u desire more and that's exactly the point when they design these phones. For me G2 being stock is reason enough every else is welcome bonus.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ericc191:
G2 because it doesn't look like ass. That Genius button would annoy the hell out of me too. Looks so stupid and useless.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tazz9690:
Engadget did a great review on both the G2 and the myTouch 4G.

After reading them both, I am glad I went with the G2 instead of the 4G.

Read it for yourself and maybe it'll help you in your decision.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ties0:
There has already been a thread on this specific topic.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=830569

Depends on you really. Your needs and style is what should influence you the most. For me, I got the g2 it does everything I need, and I know that the extra features will be unnoticeable or unused for the mt4g.