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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Ok..here goes..

Locked means sim-locked, locked to a particular sim..We are not concerned with locked phones.

Branded is different. Though you bought your phone from HTC, they have branded it to a regional software, coded HTC__038 (Asia_India). This means that you cannot use a software from another region, say Asia, or Europe, on your phone. If you use an RUU of another region, you will get an incorrect CID code.

You can bypass the CID lock (brand lock) by using a goldcard. Once such a card is in the phone, the phone bypasses the region check. You can use any other region's RUU on your India branded HTC with a goldcard.

Hope that makes Sense.. :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syncopy:
Certainly! Absolute Sense! Thanks again!

I'd want an assuring answer on this question as well from you :)

So I can update to RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.2_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_signed once i ROOT my phone, is that right?

Cheers!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Hmm..You're confused a bit :D

Well, an RUU can be applied any any point. Usually people apply it to unroot their phone, but it can be done in an already non-rooted phone, if you just want to update the software version, or change the region, like switch from branded to unbranded or vice versa. You dont need root to do it.

You can apply this RUU at any point. The only criterion to satisfy is that you need a goldcard in your phone while you run it.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syncopy:
Ah.. I AM confused :-o

So, you can directly run the European RUU on the Asia_India Desire without any problem?

I've kinda got the logic of requiring the official RUU to unroot, but I didn't exactly know that you could run it on an unrooted Desire!

So, if I apply the European RUU (the one mentioned above), my phone would become unbranded, right? (Hope I am not mistaken here) :0

And if at any time, I feel the need to restore it the default Asia_India settings, a goldcard would come handy?? -- Have I understood that right? :-0

Would you suggest applying the RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.2_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_signed ROM??

Pardon my ignorance..

Cheers!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
An RUU is Rom Upgrade Utility. It's an official HTC software actually meant to upgrade the software that comes with your phone. It has no relation to the rooting process as such. It installs the official HTC software on your phone, whatever the current state of your phone, rooted or unrooted. But when applied, because it restores your phone to the state HTC meant it to be, it essentially removes the rooting process.

Yes, applying the European RUU will unbrand your phone. Goldcard is needed though.

Going back to the India version is not that straightforward once you apply the European RUU. This is because we dont have a good leaked Indian RUU from HTC. The only one which is available is too old that it is incompatible with SLCD screens. If you apply it, it will temporarily brick your phone. You may be able to get it back up to the latest Indian version if you can apply the OTA for India. But you will have to get this file from somewhere, and also you will need to apply it without seeing anything onscreen, by learning the necessary key sequence. Also, theoretically, though I know this should work, I don't know anyone who has tried it yet, so I cant guarantee its success.

You may apply the European RUU you mentioned, but please note that once this software is flashed onto your phone, it will reject the Indian RUU which HTC engineers have at service centres. So they wont be able to correct any problems with your phone, if any develop. Unless you return it to the India version once again with a goldcard, by doing as I mentioned in the above para. I have done this last time I had to return my phone for warranty, but I had an AMOLED screen at the time.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syncopy:
Ah.. All right.. That makes some things clear to me.

Say I root my phone (and install some ROMs available at the desire development forum) and later wish to unroot (restore) to my current Asian ROM, would that be possible, with the goldcard, of course, considering an Asia_ India ROM doesn't exist?

Is the procedure same as the one stated by you above?

Are the Indian owners left stranded?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Putting an Asian ROM is no different from putting a WWE European ROM. Both are incompatible with HTC India's ROM. But sure, you can put any RUU if you have a gold card. Proc is the same. As I told you, if the time comes, you probably can use the method I described (Bricking version of RUU + India OTA) to get back to Indian version.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syncopy:
So, unrooting would come into picture only if I wish to revert to the stock ROM OR update something officially via Software updates OR warranty conditions, right? Correct me if I am wrong..

My understanding is that you should NOT update anything officially on a rooted phone..

I quite like the Sense UI on HTC, so which custom ROM would you recommend? LeeDroid seems to be stable if I am not mistaken and quite popular here.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
So, unrooting would come into picture only if I wish to revert to the stock ROM OR update something officially via Software updates OR warranty conditions, right? Correct me if I am wrong.. Exactly, you got it. I couldmt have worded it better! :D

My understanding is that you should NOT update anything officially on a rooted phone.. Correct again. Updating a rooted ROM can botch up the system

I quite like the Sense UI on HTC, so which custom ROM would you recommend? LeeDroid seems to be stable if I am not mistaken and quite popular here.

Yes, Leedroid is excellent for Sense. So is Teppic74's ROM-This one closely reproduces the parent HTC Rom. The only difference is Rooting, A2SD+. Neophyte's Aurax is also Sense based, though the main menu is slightly modded. Rest is plain Sense. Plus lots of great backgrounds.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syncopy:
Ah.. I seem to be getting to understand things better and getting the hang of it as well! :)

I'll show up here if I have any more questions.. Seems like the right place.

Thanks mate.

Cheers!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Sure, any time m8.. :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
Hi,

ok so we have new HTC_asia_india update....this will b helping u...?

http://www.htc.com/in/support.aspx

OTA update

http://www.multiupload.com/V5FRC7YV9R
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
That file seems to be a partial. It's just 4.92 mb. Original file is around 92 mb.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Hang on..I'll put the OTA up.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
ok..just waiting
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Upload got interrupted..I'll try to put it up later on today..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Just a note, your first post is now extremely difficult to follow in that font/layout
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kookysan:
Hi, is the OTA zip available? If so, would appreciate if you could share the link.

Thanks.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
You know what? I've tried at least three times to upload it, and each time the connection got broken after more than 80% upload. I'm trying again. BSNL connection su*ks.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
DC again..

I'll try some other time.

If you're already on Indian RUU, have you tried the Software Updates section?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kookysan:
No probs, you could try again some other time. Thanks for your efforts.

I'm already rooted with a custom rom; my phone is doing fine (touch wood).

Just wanted to have an Indian RUU/OTA with me in the unfortunate event that I would need to unroot again.

I already have created a gold card too btw.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
If you have a goldcard, there will probably be no software issues causing you to take the phone to service. Hardware issues are another matter altogther. Anyway I have the OTA and will put it up in case anyone is ever in dire need.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
Hey I want htc_India ota...

Plz split it to 3 parts n than (30 mb each) its easy for uploading...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] angusc:
Hi Droidzone,

I have read through your post and several of the others linked to it, I have made some assumptions and would like an expert to advise or correct any misgivings that I have derived at. I will be travelling to Dubai Airport and intend to purchase a HTC Desire (hopefully AMOLED) so would like to be best advised ready for becoming the new owner:

1) Lets assume that my new phone comes as an unbranded device (probably will be WWE & ARABIC / Middle East).

2) I should first check the ROM, RADIO versions installed (power on while holding the Back key)? Any other information that will assist me before i start to play with my new phone?

3) i need to make a Gold Card to allow me to revert back to the STOCK ROM and settings. (even though as a non branded device I should not need the Gold card for flashing a new ROM or ROOTING the device). ---- Safety measure to allow for soft brick scenario ---- Easiest way to do this is to use the GOLDCARD TOOL v 0.0.5.

4) Once I have the Gold card I can always revert back to Stock conditions directly from the Gold card, or do I also need to have the original ROM file or RUU as shipped on the device?

5) There appears to be a few different methods available to ROOT a Desire? which is the easiest and best method? MADACO or Revoked3 or ANOTHER?

6) If i follow the MODACO method will this change my new devices ROM appearance? or is the ROOTING only opening up new user access on the existing Stock ROM?

7) If the ROM is changed does the new ROM look the same or similar to that of the STOCK one on the device when purchased? (I expect it will be a WWE & ARABIC version as purchased in Dubai)? But even if it is changed by ROOTING, then question 3 again....please confirm that I can return to original version using the Gold Card.

Sorry for all these questions, but if you could kindly advise on each one it will make me feel confident in proceeding with Rooting and upgrading of my new phone when i get it on Tuesday!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] angusc:
So my question is if I wanted to install an application .apk file that required ROOT access, all I really need to do is install "Visionary App" to my Desire. Does this program only have to be used when installing an application which requires Root access, or do these type of programs also require the "Visionary program" to be running whenever they themselves need to run?

Is Visionary available as a standalone download or via the App Market?

Ohh and where do you have to copy the .apk files to install them or can they be installed from any location on the device or memory card?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
You can download it from modaco. Once you run the program, you can temp root for that session or allow it to keep it rooted until you disable root access.once you root it with visionary, you need not keep the app running. You get root until you cancel it. The root can also be set to

Disappear after the next reboot
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
You can keep the apk installation files on your card, and use any file manger to install it for you.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] angusc:
Thanx mate....you have been a real help :-)

As you had advised, i'm trying to get an AMOLED device...if this is possibl;e then it means the ones in Dubai airport will have Android 2.1 installed. (in fact I already called them and they confirmed the Android 2.1 OS but not if they have the AMOLED screen).

So this being the case and all that I have read on the websites, Am i correct to say that I should keep it at 2.1 for a good while and NOT upgrade to 2.2 as the ROOTING is an easier proposition at 2.1 OS?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Actually the Unrevoked process works as easily on 2.2 as on 2.1. Still, to be safe, when you get your device, post the details of your Hboot screen here. Newer Hboots may be incompatible, because we dont know if HTC has released any new ones.

What you should do is to allow the software to download the OTA (for upgrade to 2.2 Froyo). Dont install it, just allow the download. This places a zip file "OTA_" in the download folder of sdcard. Keep it safe. After making sure that your Rom is compatible with Unrevoked (almost 99% are), you can patch it to 2.2 and root it.

Still, get Unrevoked 3.21. That's the most stable version, as far as I know.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Illustrated thread to show Hboot, Fastboot, Android Recovery options and RUU flash

I have recently posted a thread which illustrates the actual steps necessary to unroot your HTC Desire by running the PB99IMG.zip. This is also the method to upgrade the software with the RUU, the last method to fix bootloops cause by a bad boot, and also the way to unbrick an SLCD bricked Desire. Note that another simple method exists to unroot the device, and that is by directly running the exe file of the RUU from Windows. Though simple, this is slightly riskier, since complications with Windows drivers, or a sudden power surge or PC reboot can semibrick/brick your device. The following method using PB99IMG.zip eliminates those problems.

Unrooting is just one of the steps necessary to unbrick an SLCD bricked HTC Desire. The process is a pain for these users because they cant see anything on the screen and left pressing keys in sequence, whose function they can only guess. Also they need to wait specific amounts of time before pressing the sequences.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turkishbald:
hey man, firstly a happy new year. I have an amoled desire and got semi bricked when i tried to run the slcd ruu(was tryiung to unroot). I gave it to the htc service and they returned it by replacing the motherboard. One of my friends has landed up with the same problem. You said you have the firmware .zip file. So if you could somehow upload that, Id like to try fixing the brick by running the update before approaching htc service.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
All the files are available on shipped roms
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turkishbald:
Im from India and the only Indian rom present in Shipped Roms is the 1.21.720, with which I cannot restore the amoled desire. so If you posses any firmware .zip files for the amoled desire, it would be nice of you to upload that. thanks for the instant reply by the way.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
No I don't. What I had was the ota. If you have an unrooted Indian Rom right now, you can directly download the ota. If not you won't be able to use it anyway. It needs to be applied in top of the ruu available at shipped roms. Once you install it, ota will become available for you. Since you have amoled you can use that ruu directly. If you have slcd, it will brick ur phone.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turkishbald:
ok my mistake, what i have is an slcd. i need that update.zip.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Did you read my post fully? Applying the Indian ruu will brick your phone. It can be done only for the amoled after applying the ruu on shipped roms, to patch up the system to froyo. I cannot upload the ota for a couple of weeks, since I'm not at home. And its useful only for amoled anyway. Ur best choice us the 2.29 wwe ruu to unbrick. The phone can then be given to HTC for service. What you're asking me is an update which is not a complete ruu. It needs a phone which has already been unbricked with the ruu on shipped roms.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turkishbald:
il wait mate, no problem. And what Im asking for is to try getting his slcd desire fixed. And Ive been following your post right from the begining since you started it, I had the same problem as you and got my slcd bricked. and when you said youve given your phone to the htc service and cleared the point that i can claim the warranty, ive done it too and got it back with a replaced motherboard. my friend has the same problem so thould would try what you said if youve uploaded the files. and thanks anyways
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
I understand. In that case you'd understand that the reason I failed to unbrick my phone was that I had not created a gold card. The best solution for your friend is that you download the pb99img file for the wwe ruu from shipped roms, put it on your goldcard, then follow the other guide I've wwritten, with the title How to unroot your desire. See my signature. I myself am using the wwe ruu installed by this method. Believe me, It's updated faster than the Indian version so is newer.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turkishbald:
alright, will do so. My friend was cribbing that he needs only the Indian firmware, though he doesnt know why. Il see, if hes fine with it il go ahead if not then guess its his wish what to do next... and thanks alot for the help mate!;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Even if you had the OTA with you, it wouldnt be of any use, since the moment you install the Indian RUU, the screen would be bricked. I tried putting the OTA over the bricked SLCD screen, but couldn't get it to update. It'd work for AMOLED though.

So if your friend is ok with the WWE RUU, run that for him, and he'd get back a perfectly working phone. If not, he can return the phone to HTC and heaven knows how long they'll take to return it.

They returned my phone back after 6 weeks, and b/c of all the fuss I made (upto a legal notice under the Consumer Protection Act and a topmost level complaint to the Director board of HTC in Taiwan :D ), I got a new phone and an extension to my warranty period, of 3 months. But mine was the exception, rather than the rule, I guess. :cool:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turkishbald:
i just gave them the phone telling it had a blank screen since an ota update. they tried to replace it with a new screen but after 2weeks they understood that nothing is wrong with the screen and they finally changed the motherboard or thats what they told me. Though I believe that hey figured out something was wrong with the firmware and just run the firmware ruu! :rolleyes:
[Streak 5 Android Development] skomorokhov:
Hello,

After one day of use under Android 2.2 internal speaker stopped working. Bluetooth handsfree, wired handsfree, outer speaker all of them work flawless. Backing to Factory settings did not help. I install Android 2.1 O2 and after week of use the same sh*t happened. I have heard about it from several forums and Dell community, but there were not any decision. Please, help!

I did everything to make it working and suddenly after two days of silence it came back to life without any special action from my side. Now I can't understand why and when it stops or works.
[Streak 5 Android Development] skomorokhov:
Today, 24 hours later, speaker stopped working again. Does anybody use the same Android 2.1 O2, kernel 2.6.29-perf, build 8105?
[Streak 5 Android Development] tina333:
I have major problems ringing certain people where I hear them and they don't hear me... is that the same problem as you? Its driving me mad! If they call me, it seems fine though?? Same kernel/build.

Tina :-)
[Streak 5 Android Development] skomorokhov:
Tina,

I have opposite problem. I can't hear people, they can hear me.

I found how to make it work. During the conversation through bluetooth handsfree turn off the handsfree and call transfer to internal speaker and voila! it works again. Guess it is software issue and next official Android 2.2 back it to normal.
[Streak 5 Android Development] tina333:
Ah, well done for finding out what it was :) there are a few Bluetooth headphone fixes and similar apps in the market, I had problems on my xperia x10 1.6 and the apps sorted it. Maybe worth a look? As for my problem... I have no idea? :)
[Streak 5 Android Development] skomorokhov:
Stupid question: is there no accidental tapping on MUTE button while talk? My screen does not go off every time when I bring it to the ear. Cheeks can push the same as fingers. I mute the phone a couple times.
[Streak 5 Android Development] tina333:
I think it must have been a bug in the dj_steves 1.1 & 1.2 rom... I've downgraded to O2 uk 2.1 8105 and it seems fine now :) bb21 using rebelsim but I doubt that makes a difference...

Sent from my Dell Streak
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.bergmann2:
hey everybody.

i want to set up voodoo 5 pre6 on my sgs. i want to use the alternative installation method like it is described on voodoos website since it seems a lot easier. (i wanted to post the link but i'm not allowed to...)

now i notice that i've got the 3e recovery. does that mean i can't use the alternative installation method (probably) and i have to use the "normal" method?

is this lagfix working on the official froyo release? i have jpp/jpo.

do i need root?

do you know when oclf will work with froyo? because i suppose that is the most easiest way.

thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k.bergmann2:
Oclf works with Froyo now, but it needs 2e recovery. Is there any disadvantage to change to 2e?
[Desire HD General] combat goofwing:
had the phone a couple of weeks and never tried the GPS on it ,so this morning decided to give it ago

in premuim navigation or google navigation it just says searching for GPS all the time with m3g on or off, out side with 3g on i get a spot on fix in no via that in no time but if i try to get the gps to get a fix it just keeps saying searching for GPS

i know it normally takes longer for its first ix and then should be ok but i cant get a gps fixe and yes GPS is enabled

any help would be great thanks

Just a update with 3 g on good navigation provides a fix and directions but with 3g off Google says mobile data lost,on premuim navigation it just searches for god and can not provide directions even with 3 g on

just a update after a bit of trying things out today

got GPS in car panel after a while and now it gets a fix very quick

premium navigation works well on 30 day trial and is very acurate for proximity to junctions etc,this does work with 3G turned off no problem (although 3 g does need to be on to activate the trial)tried it tonight in awful weather and never once lost the GPS during the journey

google navigation again gets a very quick fix but will not work unless 3G is on other wise you get the voice saying loss data connection when trying to plan the route

google maps very quick fix and only needed GPS on

locations, not sure how this is working but im sure even with just GPS on i was getting acurate info or maybe it was pre-cached info not sure
[Desire HD General] paulus_01:
Thanks, this helpful.

So after you got your initial fix, the next time you start navigation, the fix was quick?

Did you also test that without using 3g, so creating a fix without 3g, and if so, was that quick as well?
[Desire HD General] combat goofwing:
yes fix without 3g was quick
[Desire HD General] paulus_01:
mine just will not fix the GPS....it finds 8 satellites in couple of seconds, but then just keeps "determining position"

without a determined position, my nav app can't do anything (copilot btw)...

Anyone any suggestions?
[Desire HD General] fotografo74:
The same here.....

Antonio
[Desire HD General] matthiasdeblaiser:
Locations sadly does not work without data connection, even with gps turned on.

So whats the use of preloading the maps?
[Desire HD General] TShill7:
Pre-loaded maps?

Exactly! I pre-loaded with maps of Europe so as not to incur data charges - but Locations is useless without a data connection. How do you use the maps with GPS only? Does anyone know?? :confused: