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[HD7 General] poluks:
I also had problems with the Omnia's Home button, sometimes I had to hit it 15 times before the screen would wake up so I decided to send it back and went for a HTC Mozart, but it seems that HTC threw a lazy SD card in it (need 4 speed undercover is taking forever to load compare to an iPhone 4).

I'll test the HD7 soon.
[HD7 General] KraFT_mk:
Check this.

" If you were thinking, even for a second, that card speed class matters, you might be right, but it's not the only criteria to take into consideration: "determining whether an SD card is Windows Phone 7 compliant is not a simple matter of judging its speed class. Several other factors, such as the number of random read/write operations per second, play a role in determining how well an SD card performs with Windows Phone 7 devices".
[HD7 General] poluks:
Bull****. They're killing their own creature.
[HD7 General] nrfitchett4:
in regards to sd card class and read and write speed.

Several members have done some tests on microsd cards, testing in the phone itself (I believe the hd2) and with a card reader.

From what I remember, a class2 sandisk blew the kingston class4 out of the water on the card reader, having both faster read and write speeds (let's remember that the class ratings are minimums and not maximums). Both cards also saw much slower speeds in the phone than in the sd card reader. It seems that card speeds can be limited as much by hardware limitations of the devices as the class speed of the card.

So far, most favorable posts on here have been for the 32gb sandisk class 2, with the kingston 32gb class 4 being worthless. I will keep an eye on here before upgrading the built in card on my hd7 (when UPS delivers the damn thing).
[HD7 General] Imperial Dynamics:
Spinstorm please could you make a comment regarding screen visibility outdoors. Here in Greece we have sunny days most of the year. Thank you
[HD7 General] Khurram:
Experienced both

There was tie for me on cell phone shop bought HTC HD7 , My findings are as follow

Pros:

Large Screen.

HTC Hub

Weather widget

Dual LED

KickFlip

Expendable SD with after little h/w alteration

Cons:

Camera is extremely disappointing, poor result for 5MP and less settings options

Battery Eater (Even 3G , Data off, location off, wifi off, only phone enabled). Approx 25% gone in just 3 hrs of standby during that time only 1 SMS received and nothing else done.

Poor screen visibility under sunlight

Not sure either handling issue (using PPCs since 2003), or device design problem , sometimes camera button did not work and had to press 2, 3 times . Also found power button hard to press.

After 36 hours observation , decided to have 0.3” lesser screen instead of having major issues against a big amount and HD7 replaced with Omnia 7. Now QAing it.
[HD7 General] pfurman:
welll look how htc hd7 look like PRETTY IMPRESSIVE

samsung looks like lego

HTC HUB welll that`s the quality that`s the reason to buy htc phones
[HD7 General] KraFT_mk:
In my eyes,

HD7 is the cheapest and most dysfunctional and outbalanced phone ever done by HTC.

Cheap on build quality, design and everything else.

Outbalanced in every aspect of the system functionality.

Stating the opposite, is disrespectful for all other HTC flag products .

On the other side, I am impressed with Samsung sudden change.

S. Omnia 7 is everything that HTC HD7 should have been.

That`s an incredibly good industrially engineered device.

Closed strong and energized, black shell system.

(Its not gray or brown like on most pictures on net.)

Only when you compare them, you will know what I am talking about.

HD7 is cheap fashion statement.

Hope they will fix that will HD8(4).

K
[HD7 General] eternalemb:
LMAO. Have you ever even touched an HD7? If the Omnia 7 is anything like the Vibrant its nothing bit cheap feeling box of plastic. HD7 poor build quality...bahahahaha these kiddies are funny.

And this coming from and Omnia II owner.
[HD7 General] KraFT_mk:
Yes I have touched them. Both of them. You did not.

Vibrant is nothing like Omnia 7. And guess what. I have Vibrant too.

Vibrant is cheap plastic. You just assume Omnia7 is plastic too.

Yes, Omnia 2 that you owned is cheap plastic too. That`s why you like HD7.

And you have no idea how old I am.

Neither how to present some information.

You assume things. Even on internet.

K
[HD7 General] manlisten:
I have not used the Omnia 7 myself but I do have an HD7 and the build quality is superb IMO. Very sturdy feeling device with a nice weight to it. Cheap is not a word that comes to mind.
[HD7 General] KraFT_mk:
I always agree that "feeling and looks" of the HD7 is not cheap.

That`s why I say HD7 is a fashion statement. Nothing else. "Feeling and looks".

There is not a single post here that explains some feature about HD7. They are all "fells and looks like" type of answers. I wont tell you why is that.

If we don't compare the device with other phones I will agree that its a great phone.

But this thread is called HD7 vs O7.

Cheap but molded plastic vs Aluminum. You tell me what that is.

After all, you can always add the price difference of all the parts, numbered @ the first post and tell me how "expensive" HD7 is.

This is XDA not Fashion TV :)

I hate HTC doing this but hey, good that Samsung did something nice for once.

And I don't want to even start how O7 feels and looks :)

PS.

And I think this thread should be closed.
[HD7 General] rob_p:
It's all subjective. Personally I tried both the HD7 and O7 several times side by side, and personally I think the HD7 is a far nicer phone. Better built, nicer to hold, and a bigger screen. Plus personally I don't like the SAMOLED, the colour saturation is massively over the top.

But as I said, it's all subjective.
[HD7 General] Khurram:
after 72 hrs with Omnia 7

Please note , neither HTC nor Samsung is my employer  , my views are for those who save money and think several times before purchasing of expensive items and get frustrated if found lower quality product.

As promised, after several hours of playing with Omnia 7 (already used HD 7) , my response is follow

Pros:

Camera, is exactly what you expect from 5MP. Very bright and real colours (HD 7 recognised blue as purple) O7 understand blue is blue.

better visibility, In open area.

More options in camera settings.

Battery: after 36 hrs full charge , 50% is consumed with downloading apps , browsing , some sms, several mail checks , weather check.

All buttons are soft and easy to press

Cons:

No widget like HTC weather. Although is provided by MS itself but quality is not same as htc hd7 has

1 LED , but enough to click picture in eves and indoor

Found GPS communication slower than HTC. Still observing it

Less applications in Samsang store, Samsung need to invest here.

Conclusion till now:

For me , return of HD7 and get O7 was my right decision.

8GB is ok for me. If you manage 1 GB music , 2GB Photo albums and docs, 3 GB for apps. There still left 1.7 GB approx , what you want more to store ?

HTC emphasised on Look n Feel and no doubt they did not care about customer’s feedback for camera issue in HD2 and released HD7 with same issues they tried to cover some other hardware flaws by give HTC hub lolly pop.

Now decision is yours!
[HD7 General] gfreek:
I have both devices so here are my pros and cons:

Omnia 7

Pros:-

Super AMOLED - it's just wow the blacks are very deep!

Nand Flash 8GB - IMHO makes the OS little faster especially when loading games!

Good Camera - With WDR and other functions

Light but very well built with aluminium wrap and polycarbonate.

Cons:-

Only available in 8GB and 16GB Storage - you cannot upgrade!

Not enough good apps from Samsung!

Single LED Flash

Handset design is a bit boring especially the back!

NO HDMI Output

NO DLNA

HD7

Pros:-

Big 4.3 Screen

Well built, feels every bit like a high end device!

Like the kickstand - nice touch

The HTC hub is not bad - nice apps.

Dual LED flash.

Ability to upgrade upto 32GB via little hardware hack!

Cons:-

Screen - Very poor contrast blacks looks washed out - do not have it next to a Super AMOLED screen the difference is night and day!

Poor loud speaker - very low output

No HDMI Output

NO DLNA

HD7 is actually HD2 Mk II - HTC didn't really bother that much as they did with Desire HD, I guess from a business point of view they were being cautious for first generation WP7 devices!
[HD7 General] serdar111:
hi ordered the htc hd7

and when i was waiting for it i bought the omnia 7 to compare

and know i'm still waiting for the htc hd7

but my idea of these two is

hd7 is better in most aspects

but i canceled the order only because the htc hd7 does not have s-lcd screen

i would liked that htc had improved the hd2 because i have this one too

its the same device with another os

i think its a shame that htc did not improved with the hd7 and hope they will soon

ps: omnia 7 is a good device but i will change it for an htc hd7 with better

specs.

for now omnia 7 does a good job
[HD7 General] kponti:
Man I cant wait for the Omnia 7 to be on tmobile USA!!!

EDIT: I take that back, no hummingbird on this.....processor is the old one from the Nexus One!
[HD7 General] KraFT_mk:
Yes.

I was wondering the same thing. Why MS did not approved hummingbird.

This was the best explanation I could find. Looks logical. Anyway, yes hummingbird would have been killer cpu.

K
[HD7 General] circleofomega:
Any idea when is that happening...I mean...when is O7 coming to US (ANd eventually Asia, India)
[HD7 General] Cruzer1:
Lol some people. I reckon you would have gotten an Omnia7 if no OEM revealed the SoC (CPU/GPU) at all, just based on the performance.

Fact is, WP7 handsets perform crazy fast and alot smoother than any android device that's currently out there, weather or not the competition has the better SoC.

If overall phone performance doesnt interest you, and you prefer 'just for show' hardware, with no realworld performance on the OS, I suggest get an Android handset.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xplod420:
What do you guys think is better???
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBrandonWRX:
I have tried both releases. If I had to speculate, I think Obsidian is based off of an early kernel\build from Eugene. It felt VERY rushed to me and I LOVE all of Bionix roms but had this one removed in about 45 minutes. I feel Macnut R10 is outstanding.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamVib:
Same as above user posted. It was slow, and wasn't themed as the other roms. And I think it was rushed too because sombionix wanted to be in the froyo race.

I went with none. I am on AOSPish 2.2 and it's great! Lots better than Obcidian.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s15274n:
Eugene is not going to be doing any further R releases for macnut. He got his hands on the ODIN 2.2 from a T-Mo friend and stated this in his thread. I would flash his 2.2 he obtained, or BETTER YET, wait till he makes some tweaks to it. He is lightning fast, so it should not be too long now.

I imagine bionix and crew will use this as a base too?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pfmartin:
Without focusing on the quality of the ROMs themselves, my take on this is that Eugene does not approach his ROMs as "software projects". That is, once you start using his ROMs, he is very good at updating them; but he adds stuff, or removes stuff, and then maybe later puts stuff back with no apparent rhyme or reason. While this may be fine for a lot of people, for me it's kind of odd. It would be great if he incrementally worked on and released ROM's with clear change logs and a good software development life cycle. I realize this is a lot to ask, especially since he has indicated many times that he creates ROM's for himself, and not really for other people. So he changes and does whatever he feels like without really having an overall plan, so to speak.

Bionix on the other hand is very methodical and very good at documenting what is going on. So as a community driver I much prefer Team Whiskey because they are more concerned about how to keep people informed on what they are doing, keeping change logs, and being methodical. This is a big plus and is hard for me to ignore.

All the above being said, the best ROM for me is the ROM that can manage to make battery life on the phone last as long as possible. The battery life has been my major issue with the Vibrant since I got it, and so far Eugene seems to be the best at making the battery last longer. At least that has been my experience with several of his ROMs.

So, in the end, I am stuck between two ROM developers. If Bionix were to develop a good ROM with good battery life, then I would stick with them for sure.

I hope this helps, and please know this is not a flame towards anyone. Both developers are incredibly generous with their time and efforts and I would never look a gift horse in the mouth.

Cheers.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fnirt:
AOSPish. Seemed like the simplest option, deliciously vanilla-ish, and seems to be working great thus far.

If we ever get into the Cyanogen game I'd be likely to go back to him. His ROMs were always tasty on my G1 N1 etc.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xplod420:
Yes, the battery life for me is very important. I have used Bionix roms before and i liked it a lot. Time to try something new. The reason i am afraid to try Eugene's rom is because he has lag fix enabled on his rom. I had bad experience disabling lag fixes before and ended up with bricked phone.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hburn:
I had problem with both on my bell gt i9000m

Firsti had to flash back ugjh2 modem to get bell network to connect for both on obsidian my phone just crash every time I plug usb cable and on macnut volume button crash my phone turning off the phone won't end up I need to remove the battery and aux does not work sound still go out from phone speaker
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] derball:
hello everyone , does someone know

how to get the phonemypc app working on andorids builds ?

or if it even works at all, with the custom andriodbuilds for the hd2 ?

i always get a crash when i try to run it, i use this s build

[UPD][BUILD][27.10.10]Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 2.3 rEVOlution [kernel:hastarin R7.7]

thanks for help , sorry about my poor english

derball
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] hebrewhammer:
Hey everyone,

So I've been coming around xda for awile now and finally decided to give android a try after doing it on a buddys HD2 as seeing how well it worked. Theres a few minor problems that I figure some of you might have the answer to off the bat.

First being my keyboard. I believe the phone is using the Tilit 2 keyboard as that is what it says. This works fine except for the alternate functions. The numberpad appears to be up and down on the right rather than straight accross the top. I'm sure someone here is firmiliar. Is there a fix for this?

While I'm here I figured I might as well say that I managed to fix my incoming call mic not working by manually updating the kernal. The automatic updater was giving me the one from 10/31 which still had the problem. Upgrading to 11/3 it worked fine.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
The keyboard settings are in the startup.txt. Make sure it says tilt2 or RHOD300 whatever your RHOD version is... I think the keyboard layouts may need some more standarization, as I think some are identified by RHODXXX and the Tilt2 I think is just 'tilt2'.... Looks like that is the case:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] hebrewhammer:
Any idea which one is the american Tmobile version before I start guessing?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Jandyman:
im using an unlocked english t-mobile phone and its rhod210. Guessing will do no harm if dat isnt it though. But if you match the picture in the startup utility it should be right?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Yes the T-Mobile RHODIUM is the RHOD210 enter that in the blank. It probably says Tilt2 by default.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Pull your battery, it says on a sticker in tiny grey print. I think it is the 210 tho...

The tilt2 in there I believe is the RHOD300.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] hebrewhammer:
Yea this is correct, I didn't even realize the picture changed lol. Just thought it was a generic photo. Thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] RANDYRKELLY:
Hello I'm currently looking for info and guidance on how to compile a ROM for the Droid X.

I have followed CVPCS as much as possible but nothing on the droid x. If anyone could help i will appreciate it.

Thank You

Randy Kelly
[HD7 General] gasanpride:
Has anyone tried yet?
[HD7 General] raviley:
yep, works for me.

I got my HD7 earlier today, and so far everything works on my grandfathered 5.99 t-zones.

Hopefully this doesn't change.
[HD7 General] gasanpride:
Thank you! That's what I thought since Tzones also works on HD2. I am assuming same goes with the Dell Venue Pro.
[HD7 General] nexus14:
I was about to make a new thread. Can anyone else confirm? Many thanks and enjoy your phones!
[HD7 General] zizoty:
bump... anyone else can confirm this?
[HD7 General] nexus14:
It's been confirmed on xda as well as tmonews forum. I guess it works!
[HD7 General] rizjav_86:
So does it mean if I have a t-zones then I can use full web + email on hd7? I thought t-zones is only to use the t-mobile's online portal where you can see your account info, latest movies, etc? and does the t-zones account offer 3g speeds ?

Thanks !
[HD7 General] lemonspeakers:
For those who are using t-zone/web2go on the HD7, has there been any limitations so far?

1) Have you been caught?

2) Is it detectable via t-mobile.com under your tmobile account?

3) How are the speeds? Edge speeds?
[HD7 General] mrroey:
I've been using it on my hd7 for the last three weeks. Great 3G speeds of about 4mb down. Edge speed is obviously slower but 3G coverage is great here in Austin so I'm never on edge.

Used tzones on my nexus, hd2 and now hd7 and never been caught.

Problem is of course they won't offer tzones anymore if you ask for it.

Tzones is the only reason I'm still with tmobile. 5 dollar full unlimited Internet per month is just unbeatable

FYI tzones is not the same as web2go. Web2go offers limitations and is only used for "dumb" phones. Tzones was the internet option offered back in the day like five years ago when smart phones didn't exist so people who had tzones then are able to use the internet just like the people who pay 30 dollars for the unlimited smartphone internet plan
[HD7 General] nexus14:
Is t-zones still working with hd7?
[HD7 General] pNoyr3D:
Mine works perfectly with T-Zones.

When I bought mine at best buy there was a t-mo rep there that confirmed & I was like really? She said yes, it works with all smartphones, lol.
[HD7 General] nrfitchett4:
I guess it's one of those, as long as you don't change your plan, you should be fine kind of things.

Y'all are lucky.
[HD7 General] nexus14:
good to know!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ADeadlySpoon:
If you open the .tar file you find the "zimage" "pram.lfs" modem.bin" "farctory.rfs" "cache.rfs"

my question is, If I remove all the files except the modem.bin and put this in odin as phone will this update my modem only? Keeping my firmware etc.

Thanks,

Luke.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ADeadlySpoon:
Bump!

Can anyone answer this?

I don't want to just try it and end up having to flash again :(
[Nexus One Accessories] soloxp:
$33.99 with this code...(MLC116509110840NL1) for the first 150 they sell.

http://www.meritline.com/a-data-16g...&hq_e=el&hq_m=2082635&hq_l=48&hq_v=1735d0b1e6
[Nexus One Accessories] superlantern:
I have this card and the transfer rate is on about 3 mbps... disappointing.
[Nexus One Accessories] syl0n:
I have a 16GB Class 2 SanDisk card. I get 1.5MB/s speed when using the USB cable for my N1. But if I slot this card into the card reader (with adaptor) of my laptop, I easily hit 4.5MB/s.

I think N1 has limited speed capability for USB transfer. This card used to be in another phone before and I got same speeds as card reader with it.
[Nexus One Accessories] knightnz:
There's a reason A-Data cards are cheap...
[Nexus One Accessories] methodz:
Yeah, i think sandisk is the way to go. I had a Ridata class 6 and when i ran speedtest on it, the phone kept thinking it was a class 2. then i bought a sandisk class 2 and it was reading as a class 4. all the cards tested were 16gb.

the only other card i would consider is the kingston class 10 but those are still pretty pricey.
[Nexus One Accessories] khaytsus:
Yeah, because they are ****. And Patriot. Heh. Never know if either brand will work or long they'll work.
[Nexus One Accessories] galaxys:
I'm using the16GB Class 2 SanDisk card which rocks!
[Nexus One Accessories] foxwolfblood:
same here :D
[Nexus One Accessories] soloxp:
I guess this is why ADATA is cheap and ****....Really.....

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu279/soloxp/1.png
[Nexus One Accessories] charnsingh_online:
I easily get 8mbps on my adata when on card reader, averages at 3-4mbps on my phone (with Froyo a2sd, old a2sd and /data/data on sd, thats quite lot of stuff)
[Nexus One Accessories] -Phazenine-:
Go for Sandisk. It's hands down the best sd card

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One Accessories] mavers1985:
sandisk all the way. Bought a few trascend microsd's were useless.
[General Questions and Answers] b00f:
Hi

I have recently been playing around with Tasker, and have had some great success, although I am having some trouble getting a profile to STOP, when the profile it activates turns on.

Here are the profiles:

I wish for %NEARHOME to STOP when %HOME is activated, and wifi on.

When setting up the system settings for %Home I left WIFI turned on.

Can anyone help on this?

I also have to set up some audio profiles for work, to turn my phone on silent during a specific time, IF I am @ a certain location.

Can anyone help out on this as well?

1. Task to be done: Silent

When: Between 8:30 and 7

Upon Exit: <do nothing> (will toggle back to previous state)

2. Task to be done: Silent

When: When location at work +/- 1.5k

Upon Exit: <do nothing> (will toggle back to previous state)

Aaron
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] liamguest:
With my Sony Ericsson x10 mini pro i want to do this...

- Delete all the forced installed programs like roller-coaster 0.0 time scape, ca gold rush, geotags, google main, latitude, maps, neo reader, peggle, places, playnow, road sync, setup guide, talk, track id, wise piolet etc... you get the general idea they loaded this lovely light and portable mobile with a loada crap ill never use i just prefare my emulators and Sims 3 HD tbh and all that is working perfect tbh i couldn't believe sims 3 3d worked on it its just a lovely small android phone.

- load apps from my memory card

- Possibly unlock the mobile to all networks

- OVER CLOCK 1GHZ would be nice ( nice to know is it battery rapes / makes phone unstable if it is possible also )

- One more thing i installed something called GDE i think its called to make my android theme look better but is their an easier way to make the phone look more like other android phones?? because flicking between apps is so slow and annoying with the normal screen but with this GDE thingy i installed it seems a lot easier and less laggy.

I know rooting is the first step but how exactly and what exactly am i looking to do after this to begin the first steps to doing this...

I'm not completely computer illiterate so just point me in the right direction and I'm sure ill be able to figure it out from there any help is appreciated thanks.

another developer question, if i wanted to make my own custom modifications exactly where should i be looking into starting doing this I only know basic C# atm so just wondered

Btw if you did read all this sorry for blagging on appreciated a lot.

thanks guys.