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[Epic 4G Android Development] QuestingHero:
Fully support what you are doing, the biggest problem I have with the Epic is some (not a lot, but maybe the loudest), of the people who wine on this board and I think it is great to turn the tables. I only have one problem, it seems that the Image Verification generator is broken on the ACS site :-\ I tried to send an email on the site too, but it also requires you to type in the image thing. I tried in both IE and Firefox so I don't think it is my browser.

Look forward to MANY more updates (on ACS and here) of this project and many more, keep up the great work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Thread has been purged. Any more flaming will get this thread closed with infractions all around. Please, report the flamers and the trolls, DO NOT RESPOND! Thank you.
[Epic 4G Android Development] schnowdapowda:
Man better late than never :) lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] theimpaler747:
Perhaps if you had reported it it would have been cleaned up faster ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Send me a pm
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Yep, same here, its funny because you cant use the contact us section either due to the image verification issue.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
+1
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Brought this up to Rob he'll be getting this fixed asap sorry for the inconvenience!
[Epic 4G Android Development] txtmikhail:
so wats the status on this....?
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Hehe the status is that some ungrateful people started harassing tmillar, so now all progress can be followed here http://www.forums.acsyndicate.net, although major updates (for instance, a release) will still be posted here
[Epic 4G Android Development] sniperkill:
I've been reading thru this thread, and seeing the haters post **** like they want proof, and others demanding an ETA, and even others just trolling this thread just looking for trouble... And looking at all this, I can't help but wonder, why can't people like that just leave the devs alone? I ask myself, are the trolls that bored with their life? Do they even have one? Probably not, I'm guessing..

Personally, I think the devs are doing a bang up job. You trolls need to remember who even gave you the ability to root and modify our phones. If it were'nt for the devs doing this stuff for FREE, we would be stuck with stock phones. I wish everyone would just think maturely for a sec before they post something ignorant. I do know this, if you guys (aka trolls) keep this up, were not gonna have any awesume devs left to teach us how to modify our phones.

Just my thoughts.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
See post #406
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
The only post I can find (unless I'm not finding the proper subforum) in regards to TV-Out is this post - http://www.forums.acsyndicate.net/s...rrently-in-development-GRI40-WiMAX-amp-TV-Out The forums over there seem to be completely dead, so can anoyne who's a member over there post up these pics showing even the slightest shots of how TV-Out is coming along.

Thanks all.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
The forum at acs just got a new home on the web. All of it is brand spanking new. Us developers and themers are balls to the wall working on the phones so the majority of the communication it's taking place in iirc channels. Add to that k0nane thomas, and mystery have all sacrificed their phones to the cause pushing the limits ;) (not really k0 and mystery have a similar usb issue) but the thread you linked to tmillars tv out is the correct one. Tmillar is on vaca, soon as hes back, me him and k0 are sure to progress on this more.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Leeboy:
Damn Straight! BUG OFF TROLLS:mad:
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I'm far from one of the haters, but can you post those images here? It'd just be nice to see what it's looking like at the moment.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
I know your not you been pushing for this as well since the start. Pictures I dont have I'm working on a completely diff rom at the moment and tmillar is out. As far as I know there is no picture to show besides the ones of the tv out app with options more of a settings menu plus the terminal showing the service actually running. The next part will be smali edits and no pictures yip go with that. It's not something that will be ready in a week or so but it is close and we are not abandoning it. There were those who didn't believe we would even have the service running so stock in there it's getting to the point that exceeds my knowledge level lol!
[Epic 4G Android Development] gtuansdiamm:
Dammit more people coming to android is actually a bad thing.because of all these haters (probably came from iphones) all the devs are leaving us .

Good work dude

Keep it up

Don't let the haters get to you.

Them haters should try to port a theme. It takes forever. Compared to porting themes, making an original takes forever and Compared to making themes, roms take forever. And making tv out work on android takes forever compared to making a rom.

I tried porting a theme once.

I was successful thanks to help from 3 other people. then it was finished with help from more people. It took a lot of time and effort. I can only imagine how much work you are doing.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Probaholic1:
Don't know if this was asked, but differentiates our TV-out to that of the Captivate?

Sent from my Boosted Epicness!! XDA app
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Not sure personally I seen the option in settings of the captivate for it but does it function?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Yes, Tv-out works on the Captivate, but only outputs certain things like videos and pictures, not full mirror.
[Epic 4G Android Development] averroe5:
+1
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I beg to differ as my GF has a Captivate and I've seen a video on YouTube before I even knew what TV-Out was. On the YT video, the guy was reproducing everything on his screen from the desktop, his live wallpaper, etc to playing Sandstorm. The limitations you're referring to are of the MicroUSB to HDMI on the Evo, which even that has a tweaked app so that it mirrors everything on the screen like 3.5mm to RCA alread has. While the RCA isn't in HD, I'd rather have the full mirror option as well as more connectivity option for situations where HDMI isn't an option.

I hate when people spread misinformation...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Poryhack:
I think you mean microHDMI and not microSD.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
Touche...you get what I'm saying though :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
These are the videos I was referring to - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epytWcOFpYo or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQBAx_BDfk&feature=related
[Epic 4G Android Development] Poryhack:
But you edited it to say microUSB... It has a separate microHDMI port for that purpose, the galaxy S line theoretically has microUSB to HDMI but I'm pretty sure the Evo doesn't (it certainly doesn't need to with that extra port).

Not trying to be an ass just trying to get it right.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
What happened to the thread, I dont see anything about tv-out??
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
What happened to tmillar07's private little forum at ACS? Seems like it disappeared or was made private to new members.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
I'll post back the answer to this the forum just got re organized which was much needed, it might have ended up in the internal section.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
So I take it they gave up on this?? Or are they focusing on getting it to work with the Gingerbread leak?
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Nobody's given up.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
It appears so. Tmillar07 doesn't seem to have separate forum on ACS now either. All evidence of him on ACS' forum has vanished, including the pictures.

I mean this in the best possible way. I think this has gone the way of vaporware yet again or all work has suddenly halted and disappeared.

EDIT: Ignore everything. Read below.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Incorrect on all counts. The forum has been majorly reorganized, we're still working a couple of things out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
Thank you for the rapid response, I apologize for my incorrect presumptions.

Just found this also: http://www.forums.acsyndicate.net/showthread.php?577-Tv-out...

Thanks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Found the thread here: nothing new..

http://www.forums.acsyndicate.net/s...y-in-development-GRI40-WiMAX-amp-TV-Out/page3
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Tmillars job comes first and hes been real busy beyond belief. There will be no product soon but it hasn't been abandoned. Most people misinterpret the thread it wasnt meant to say this is about to be released, tmillar was putting the word out that he began the legwork and was looking for someone knowledgeable to assist with it. Hopefully in the near future he will be changing this thread to a coming soon thread. Also he decided to incorporate this into a gingerbread rom now and we all know source for that won't be out for a bit so there are two hangups now.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
I come in here every couple days just to check. Mostly because the acs forums haven't had any chatting for a week. But I never say a word. I don't know what's more humorous....people constantly asking for an update....or your ubelievable patience and continual responses even when they aren't deserved. I know you guys are workin on it. Ignore the masses and thanks for your efforts.
[Epic 4G Android Development] riazrahman:
Donate link?

Is money a factor here? I'd be willing to donate a few dollars in good faith via PayPal or something if it will get the project rolling further...
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
I'm not going to discourage donating to the dev they all deserve it but no the project will never be on hold just because its not generating revenu, thats certainly not the stance we take, we do this for everyone to benefit. Appreciate the support though!
[Epic 4G Android Development] riazrahman:
Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that you guys are doing this for any kind of incentive other than the good of others. It was more like, I wish I could help out in some way, but I'm not experienced enough to be a dev, so I figured donating would be the best way to help. Maybe by donating I can start a trend here, so you guys don't think xda is full of a bunch of losers like the ones that have been giving you guys trouble. Is there a link I can go to in order to donate?
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Now that you mention it, I've never seen a donate link for tmillar before you'll have to get a response from him. Thanks again for your support
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
The last missing piece of the puzzle for our phones. I really hope that this is able to get done. Every time I see this thread jump back up I get excited.
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
This

Like what I'm doing right now lol. It'll get another 50 views.

Btw, is anyone on the inside able/allowed to give any sort of status update? Even small news is good news...
[Epic 4G Android Development] silver03wrx:
Really cool. Excited about this
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Damn you squishy..lol..first thread I check when its up top. That's just plain cruel. :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Kif420:
I'll perform all services on your car free of charge, buy u endless beers, provide the best herb known to man to see this sexiness
[Epic 4G Android Development] SINNN:
wait... This ask not working? (jumps ship)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Yea, nice try. Got everybody optimistic for nothing. If they stopped working on this the least they could do is inform everybody that this isnt going to happen, or give some kind of progress update instead of leaving everybody hanging in suspense.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NEXUS 4G:
Well than since they haven't told everybody it isn't going to happen, I'd have to assume they haven't stopped working on it... But if you really must have it today, you can go build it yourself, I'm sure it's very simple...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Settle down tough guy,

Im just saying thanks for trying. I think everybody would appreciate some kind of progress update, if any? Its not like im being impatient, this thread was started 8th November 2010.
[Epic 4G Android Development] styles420:
If you're being patient, why do you come across as a sarcastic SOB? Kinda seems like this thread wouldn't be missing anything pertinent or helpful if you hadn't posted
[Epic 4G Android Development] Custodian:
I agree with styles. And I agree with that other human aswell.

This thread trolled the epic community.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
At least I got reasonable response over at Acs.

Here ya go ladies:

"Sorry guys.....I will make it a point for an update.....Tmillar has not been around in quite sometime.....I will try and contact him for you... "
[Epic 4G Android Development] DCRocks:
+1

/10char
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
Oh. You were going for "reasonable." That's your problem. We don't use these boards for reasonable responses. First, we have to wade through the whining and needless attacks. Then, once we find a grain of truth, we have to cross reference that with about 40 more disjointed threads with more attacks on reasonable questions before we can even come close to a hint of the answer.

Reasonable. Phah. You're in the wrong place for that.

This is abandonware and that's okay; it's a tough dream to realize.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Ha, should have known better.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Poryhack:
Glad somebody finally said it. Lets be honest, if there hasn't been anything of even remote significance since mid-April (and it appears there hasn't been) then it's safe to say that nobody's really working on it. Which is fine, but then this thread should be closed or updated to reflect that.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
Just because the thread isn't updated doesn't mean it's not being worked on. You people do realize this is one of the hardest things to develop for the Epic, right? Patience.
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
Patience is one thing and this is not it. Patience is having enough data to expect a final product because it's being actively worked on with updates. I'm certain Duke Nukem continued to cite "patience" as well (many years later, it happened but we have months on these phones; not years).

I'm not complaining. Not at all. This is one of the hardest things to do due to the level of component complexity involved. I fully laud the developer for even considering to take on this task. Unfortunately, in the world of these mini and micro electronics even eight months is an EOL event (see Samsung's EOL of the Moment).

I don't blame anyone who has been working on this for abandoning it because those on the edge tend to stay on the edge and upgrades occur quicker than complicated "hacks" or fixes (as this should have been ours from the beginning).

As a matter of fact, ROI (investment is time in this case) on this project for any developer is almost completely gone and even I wouldn't see this as a good use of my time.

Again, I'm not complaining, but let's be realistic for once.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tenaciousj:
Wow you guys are something else. You sound like you are entitled to this or something with your sh*t attitudes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
This would be one of the best hacks for our phone. I don't understand why people would want to discourage the person/people working on it from doing so. I will repeat what I said before...still the first thread I check when it shows up on top of Android Development. If this gets done everyone will be all over it. Asking for updates is kind of pointless in my opinion. If its done, it will be released. Otherwise, what is there really to post?
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
Who here is saying they're "entitled" to anything? You're the only one who is making that assertion. I'm saying that Samsung should have given this to us in the first place and it's not the hobbyist's responsibility to fix something like this. Also that it is 100% understandable and expected that a project of this size is abandoned in favor of a real life. It was nice to expect it but I wouldn't hold him to finishing this at all.

But, I don't think you're going to read that response, either.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Mods please lock this thread tmiller specifically said he wouldn't update it anymore on xda after the flaming and phone calls he received from xda members.
[Epic 4G Android Development] The Root:
I mean flaming is par from trolls, but they called him?! That's just plain rude.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Called him left a voicemail cursing him out for "lying" to the community and making false promises. Ironically about the time us acs members quit hearing updates direct from tmil
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Whoever called him and left a message like that should be permanently banned from XDA. Thanks a lot moron...whoever you are.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tenaciousj:
I found one in the past 2 pages alone, not going to waste time looking for other entitled d-bags further pages back but I can guarantee they're there.

I do agree it should have been given to us from the get go but it wasn't and thats the way it is.
[Epic 4G Android Development] The Root:
I almost want to request it stay open to ridicule anyone who would pester a well-intentioned dev.
[Epic 4G Android Development] compuw22c:
If you can't code it yourself you can't complain someone else hasn't. On that matter, you can't ever complain here, period, about anyone other than your carrier or manufacturer. Nobody else has been paid, no other agreements entered. Its as though these people completely don't realize these awesome devs do this work out of the goodness of their heart, for no pay, on side of their normal everyday jobs, mowing the lawn, doing the dishes, washing the dog, changing their oil/brakes. Nobody on these projects just gets to focus on them all day as a paid job. Call samsung.

Thank you devs for all the work you do. Its a shame the community doesn't have any etiquette or appreciation. I blame the recent explosion of smartphone adoption. Back in my mogul, tp and tp2 days I remember much more respect and gratitude in the ole forums...

Sent from my pocket rocket
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I've been undger the impression that this is on hold due to waiting for Gingerbread and it's increased video abilities, just like why Netflix doesn't work on EC05. Tmillar showed it working, so unless your programming it yourself, no one should be saying a ****ing thing. The only people who should be saying anything negative about the progress are the people actually working on it, otherwise your *****ing is nothing more than a byproduct of you being unhappy with your own life, too much free time and being a crab in a barrel...go do something else, your whining isn't needed, period.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DCRocks:
By chance, would you know if he is updating anywhere else?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Here:\

http://www.forums.acsyndicate.net/s...rrently-in-development-GRI40-WiMAX-amp-TV-Out
[Epic 4G Android Development] Tirregius:
I'm actually saddened that someone could feel anger or feel the need for sarcasm or a demeaning post toward someone who had taken the initiative to propose/develop/discuss FOR FREE a new feature for a device. To the post that "no one is saying they are entitled," I say go back and read some of the posts...sorry - they oose of "entitlement" attitude.

We should all be thankful for the time given freely that many folks are giving here. I've never even thought to scrutinize the motives or the character of a developer or anyone contributing, failed attempt or not.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DCRocks:
thanks for the link!
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
I said that and I still have no idea where you people are reading others saying they are entitled to something.

If you're interpreting something that isn't there, well, then that's kinda your issue, isn't it?

As for me, let me repeat myself: "If the developer abandoned the project and said nothing (as is evidence as the lack of posts by him) then that IS OKAY AND ACCEPTABLE!" He hasn't posted. He hasn't updated. Nobody but more anonymous internet users are coming on here claiming that they spoke to him through some magical device and know his thoughts. You tell us that he abandoned XDA in one breath and in another you say, "Be patient; he'll update." Which is it? Again, I ask for those who are too timid to ask themselves because of the irrational hatred and anger you people display.

Not once can you find a post where I'm complaining about this project. I'm just being honest about it and you people with a bug up your ass to defend someone WHO DOESN'T EVEN POST ANYMORE need to seek some serious counseling. Grow up and get over yourselves. Let the adults defend themselves if they feel they need to and stop making up stories just because your *****'s dripping fluids this month.

Seriously, you people are the reason these boards turn into arguments. You're so quick to want to look "smart" or "heroic" or "edgy" or "pretentious" in front of your chosen gods that you have lost all ability to act like humans and treat people with respect. If someone asks a question, how hard is it just to answer it? How difficult is it to just hold your tongue if you have nothing but vitriol to spew at an innocent question or comment? Is your life so difficult that you must come onto these boards and attack those seeking knowledge? So what they ask a million times? If he asks a million times, answer a million more. Maybe if we showed some compassion and understanding things would get better here.

Don't worry, I know you're getting your defensive, angry responses ready and you won't even read half of what I've written before you're ready to post.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Honestly othan, I have heard a couple of conflicting things regarding TV Out. I have heard tmillar got it just about done and received a letter from Sprint not to release it. I also heard that it was now in the ACS team's hands. Now I hear that tmillar is still working on it but not updating the thread here. I just run off of the assumption that we won't get this and if someday we do then all the better. I really hope it does get done but I don't expect it to anymore.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mugen678:
I agree with othan on everything he has said. If tmillar isn't updating this thread, then it should be locked or deleted. Especially if he's boycotting XDA because of a few members. A voicemail message is easily deleted and a number easily blocked. I don't care how busy one is, if one even turns on their computer they could make a simple post; or better yet, it takes 30 seconds to post from the phone... If dreamsforgotten has to be the middle man for information; that means tmillar has taken the time somewhere to tell him. It could have been distributed directly to the entire audience with little effort and would have ultimately reduced the amount of flaming he has supposedly received..