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[Vibrant General] Ravynmagi:
Oh. I had edited my reply because I had assumed I found my answer from this...

developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html

"HIGHMEM support for RAM >256MB"

I had assumed that mean the official Froyo when we got it would have 512MB available.

So I guess I misunderstood their meaning there. So the 326MB is pretty much the max my applications will have to work with on this phone?

I guess I'm puzzled because I was in T-Mobile a couple days ago and I was going back and forth between getting this Vibrant and the MyTouch 4G. The MyTouch 4G advertises 768MB of RAM, while the Vibrant advertises 512MB of RAM.

So now I'm back to my original confusion. Why would HTC put 768MB of RAM in the MyTouch 4G if Android can't even use 512MB? *confused*

Ya'll compared it to the Windows XP limitation with only seeing 3.2-ish GB of RAM. But Dell doesn't install 8GB of RAM in Windows XP computers either. I guess I could maybe understand the 512MB phones if some of the memory is going towards video. But the 768MB phone doesn't make sense then.

This is my first Android device, so I'm still trying to figure out these things. Sorry for the dumb questions.
[Vibrant General] swehes:
First of all. There are no dumb question. Second. Android uses all of the RAM. But as the phone reserves memory for hardware and other system essential services, you will only be able to use a certain amount of the memory. In this case around 345 out of the 512. The rest is put away so that the OS can run stable etc.

So for the MyTouch 4G it says that there is 768 MB installed, but you won't see all of that. The phone will reserve certain amount for it's hardware and you will never be able to free it unless you know how to change the kernel.

Hope this clears any confusion up.
[Vibrant General] funeralthirst:
for xp, the memory limitation is due to 32bit memory addressing. 32bits can address a theoretical 4gb, however due to also addressing gpu memory and probably some other reasons xp can't address the entire 4gb and so you see 3.xGB.

i can't really speak to android or the vibrant, but i'm guessing (like others have said) we are losing some of our ram in a share with the gpu.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
I think most people are missing the issue here.

The phones are advertised as having 512 MB RAM.

When you buy a computer, and it says 512, it comes with 512 (only exception is the one I stated - integrated graphics cards sharing system RAM - but that is usually listed on the Computer Spec sheet).

So, when they get a phone and it says 512 MB RAM, they expect for there to be 512 Application-accessible RAM on the device.

HTC adds more RAM to put the user closer to the advertised specs. Most other manufacturers do not.

So users end up with 326 MB RAM wondering if they got what they paid for.

Which... they really didn't if you use you common sense, but companies will always use technicalities tand semantics o defend their decisions and/or actions.
[Vibrant General] Prankey:
I completely agree with you. In fact some of us in xda have discovered that sgs indeed has less than 512MB of RAM. We are still somehow trying to defend Samsung by say Galaxy TAB has more RAM (when Samsung advertise 512MB only for TAB)!

On a side note - Hard Drive capacity is measured in millions of bytes hence 500,000millionbytes

will be around 465GB only (unformated)!
[Vibrant General] raduque:
I doubt ~170 mb is being allocated for the radio and for hardware addressing space. It's my opinion that the phone actually only comes with 384mb ram.
[Vibrant General] anthonys2r:
no.

10ch
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Many do list that but what makes the drives smaller is formatting. The raw size is what it is, but the formatted capacity is much less. You can ser this on sf cards easily. Format it as fat32 then ntfs, and the end (formatted) capacities will be different. Then play with allocation sizes as well ;p

If you have hordes of small files it can really eat inyo the space on ut hard drive, as well, since a file can only be as small as the smallest cluster size in the filesystem.

Even if they made the drive 1024mb x however many gb they say it is, that will be instantly cut fown tje minute you format a fs onto the drive. There is also space the fs reserves for system use, as well. Mft and such.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
He's right hardware addrrssimg shouldn't need that much, and graphics in a phone shouldn't need that much either. Maybe so,eone should sue Samsumg for false advertisement and see what they say.
[Vibrant General] raduque:
You can "no." all you want, but unless you have proof to the contrary, I'm going to stick with my

OPINION

that the phone has 384mb.

There's no way in hell the Radio, hardware addressing space and/or GPU frame buffer use 170-180mb of the ram.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
I agree just checked and vibrant shows similar ram to htc aria, which has 384mb ram stock.
[Vibrant General] ttabbal:
There is a thread in the i9k forum that details the amounts of ram reserved in the kernel source. Just about every feature on the phone has dedicated ram, weather or not it's currently in use. That plus what the kernel shows as available adds up to 512mb. It's stupid, but that's how it is. Poor and lazy software engineering, IMO. Unfortunately, doing the allocation in a sane way and having it work in android properly is very difficult without all of the source, which we will probably never have.

It's not really any better with other manufacturers. They all do it. I think they ought to be required to disclose user available ram amounts, but nobody cares what I think.
[Vibrant General] tsailik:
I had 326 RAM .After installation of FROYO 2.2,my Galaxy can see only 304 RAm.Why?I expected to get more RAM with FROYO 2.2 Why did this happened?
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
Maybe you should do it. You know, since you know exactly what you're talking about.
[Vibrant General] pzmosquito:
ok guys, here is why u see around 465GB on a 500GB HD.

HD manufactures calculate:

1KB = 1000B, 1MB = 1000KB, 1GB = 1000MB

so 500GB HD is (500 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000)B

Windows calculates:

1KB = 1024B, 1MB = 1024KB, 1GB = 1024MB

take the result from HD: (500 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000)B / 1024 / 1024 / 1024 = 465GB

this is where the difference comes from.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Getting rid if the phone soin, so really wiyld not serve to benefit me in any way.
[Vibrant General] Nagrom Nniuq:
BAH. Someone linked. Necro. My bad.
[Vibrant General] VeryCoolAlan:
They should've put like 650mb of RAM so it balances to 512!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhoffy22:
Can't find an answer...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phajen:
I have the same question. I've got the new Hboot and camera, and the only kernel I can use is the stock kernel at the moment. SetCPU seems to go inactive at times, completely ignoring all of my profiles, unless I disable and then re-enable the profile tab, uncheck and recheck the Apply on Boot setting on the advanced tab, and redo the perflock disabler.
[EVO 4G General] moodebony:
I (and several friends that I asked) noticed a mark increase in UI response (laginess) when coming out of sleep, opening app drawers, initializing the keyboards, scrolling between launcher screens, etc. Having random lags is annoying, but having 2-3 second lag spikes when using the keyboard is downright frustrating.

I know that lab benchmarks are way up with the new release, but frankly I don't care about those if my day-to-day functions suffer.

I first began to notice this when I made the stock upgrade to Froyo. 2 days ago, I flashed the EViO 1.5 ROM on my phone, and it seems to be 4x as bad. Paring down the window launcher helps marginally. ADW -> Sense -> Launcher Pro in order of most to least lag. I am currently using Launcher Pro just because it's responding a little better than the others.

In a somewhat related post, one of the developers offers that a lot of lag is due to aggressive garbage collection:

(unfortunately, I am not yet verified so I can't post the link)

I also wonder if the overhead from the JIT compiler or lack of proper memory caching isn't the culprit ... or perhaps this is to what the aggressive garbage collecting is referring.

Who else has noticed this? Can anyone offer up an explanation?

I would be willing to reflash to a new ROM if someone can suggest a custom ROM that they recommend as having faster normal UI response time.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Are you using Juice Defender or do you have off "always-on mobile network?" The lag when turning on the phone is the phone searching for 3G svcs, notice when you are on Wifi there is no lag
[EVO 4G General] moodebony:
No juice defender.

I have my radio set to always on.

Most of my testing at home is done on AC power with WiFi turned on, lag definitely still exists.

There's a good 4 - 5 seconds of lag before I can use my window launcher after waking up my phone. I do have setCPU configured to scale the processor down to 245mhz while the screen is turned off. This may explain the lag after wakeup, but not the intermittent lag.
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
None of these issues using Myn's 2.2 rls3 Rom and ziggys 11/5 kernel. I DON'T use setcpu. It can cause instability issues. Like the lag time in wake up. Some phones don't like 245mhz when sleep. Try boosting to 384 screen off. Also, overclocking can be beneficial but clocking too high can cause poor responsiveness. It can also affect benchmarking scores negatively if clocked to high. Try ziggys 11/5 kernel, its doesn't support overclocking, but it honestly feels like it is overclocked using this Rom/kernel combo

Sent from my DAMN Evo!!
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
lag what lag ? my 6.1 is lag free
[EVO 4G General] clamknuckle:
If your setcpu governer is set on something like conservative, it can defintely cause intermittant lag. get away from setcpu and use a havs kernel.
[EVO 4G General] wfrandy:
Currently mine is instant, no lag at all, but I had this problem about a week ago. I am running Fresh 3.4.0.1 with Netarchy's 4.2.1 cfs/havs kernel.

What caused my problem with lag was a lack of internal memory. I was down to about 64 MB of internal memory left and it would lag on wake or when exiting apps, and I noticed that it would often have to reload the UI whenever I exited an app. The fix was easy. I moved what apps I could to the SD card and used titanium Backup to remove a bunch of stuff that I do not use. Once available internal memory was over about 100 MB (134 MB is what it was when I was finished) the lag totally went away.
[EVO 4G General] moodebony:
Problem Partially Solved!

SetCPU was indeed the main culprit. I was under the impression that overclocking too much would just cause instability. It seems that moving the ceiling from 1228.8mhz down to 1113.6mhz solved most of my new lag issues with the EViO ROM.

Indeed, upping the screen-off throttle-down from 245 to 386 also seems to have helped the wake-up lag time, though I'm still doing some more testing on this one.

Would I need to set all floor values up to 386 as well, or is that just for the screen off value? What scaling setting do you guys in setCPU? Conservative? Performance? On-Demand? Does anyone happen to know exactly what the differences are in the algorithms that they use?

So can anyone offer up an explanation as to why overclocking would result in lag? Is there some kind of hardware throttle-down that's happening? I had a catch for if the battery got too hot that would throttle back to normal speed, but I never seemed to reach it. Is there a known heat limit where the hardware automatically throttles down?

As for the seemingly normal, random Froyo lag spikes, I'll be monitoring that over the next few days.

Thanks again in advance for any information.
[Focus Accessories] rkorzuch:
I have picked up the Samsung Focus and need to get a case but I can't find any available. Anyone find a good case that is in stock?
[Focus Accessories] falconeight:
Att has incipio barely there cases and they are nice. The bodyglove is terrible
[Focus Accessories] prubin:
www.samsung.com and follow links for accessories

they have three cases for the i-917

i bought the horizontal one with white stitching - also found discount coupon on line

phone fits perfectly in case
[Focus Accessories] Mallux:
are you talking about the pouches? I don't see any cases
[Focus Accessories] aimer:
Finding a case for the focus in Canada is especially hard haha. Does anyone know if any Rogers stores have any yet? I got mine off the Rogers site and know they're not available in stores yet.
[Focus Accessories] wspaw:
There are none yet. I can't find any, at least...
[Focus Accessories] prubin:
www.samsung.com

1 - http://www.samsung.com/us/system/co...0/01/etc001sbebxar/ET-C001SBEBXAR_170x170.jpg

2 - http://www.samsung.com/us/system/consumer/accessory/et/hp/02/ethp02sbebxar/ETHP02SBEBXAR_PA-M1_1.jpg

3 - http://www.samsung.com/us/system/consumer/accessory/et/hp/12/ethp12sbebxar/ETHP12SBEBXAR_PA-M1_1.jpg

4 - http://www.samsung.com/us/system/consumer/accessory/et/vp/01/etvp01sbebxar/ETVP01SBEBXAR_PA-M1_1.jpg

5 - http://www.samsung.com/us/system/co...0/02/etc002sbebxar/ET-C002SBEBXAR_170x170.jpg
[Focus Accessories] jcr916:
Those are pouches, the case he is talking about is always on his phone.
[Focus Accessories] rkorzuch:
There are a few cases on the AT&T website now. There is the Body Glove case that doesn't have cutouts for the buttons. It's ashame since I have the Body Glove case on my Capitivate and it's perfect.

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...56&q_manufacturer=samsung&q_model=prod4900501

There is also a Case-Mate case:

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...88&q_manufacturer=samsung&q_model=prod4900501

It looks nice but $35.00 is pretty pricey.

There is an Incipio case which looks interesting:

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...58&q_manufacturer=samsung&q_model=prod4900501

Has anybody tried this case yet?
[Focus Accessories] smuook:
Here is the same incipio case:

http://www.myincipio.com/Samsung-Fo...-Focus-feather-Ultralight-Hard-Shell-Case.asp

Same price as AT&T... $29.99

Has anyone picked one up yet?
[Focus Accessories] ryotgz:
The incipio looks nice. Wonder if the local AT&T store has it yet so if I don't like it I can return it.
[Focus Accessories] Impunity_:
the incipio case is the one i have... its ok, if the sides came up over the top edge a little more it would protect the screen but i suppose it would also change the feel of the phone substantially. Additionally the camera button is awkward to use with the case on. That said, it removes easily (but wont fall off) and appears to do an adequate job of protecting the back.
[Focus Accessories] FishFaceMcGee:
For people with the Incipio cases, does it cover the front at all? I'm looking to get the InvisibleShield too an am worried it may cause issues with how it fits.
[Focus Accessories] schumatt:
The Incipio case is nice, but it does not cover the display at all. From past experience with InvisibleShield, assuming it only covers the glass on the display, the two should work fine together.
[Focus Accessories] FishFaceMcGee:
Excellent. That's exactly what I wanted to hear.
[Focus Accessories] robstunner:
Im returning mine. The fitment is sub par... you can see the gap by just looking into the opening for the power button.
[Focus Accessories] smuook:
I'm gonna hold out for a good case. I'm waiting on Speck, Otterbox, or a Case Mate Tough case to provide a good quality and protective case.
[Focus Accessories] CeramicElephant:
focus case

Im having the same problem finding a good focus case. I'm currently waiting on my replacement phone to come in because my first one already got dropped and busted. It fell flat on its face no more that two feet off the side of my couch and the glass screen cracked in half. I was leaning towards the incipio case but im thinking it really needs to protect the screen, and i dont think a screen shield would do anything to help break the impact of a fall.

It just blows that of the few cases that are out there, most are out of stock / not available yet, and even more are just crappy cases.
[Focus Accessories] FishFaceMcGee:
I just got my Incipio Feather case. I like it, though I am also ordering a screen protector.
[Focus Accessories] Mallux:
Honestly, i would like to know who makes some of these ridiculous decisions. Who decided to go to market with these 3 cases for a new phone, which is one of ATT's flag ships for a brand new OS. One is pretty much just cosmetic and as many have said, fits poorly. The second is practically a joke, which causes nothing but problems with the hardware keys. And the third is actually pretty nice, except for the fact that it's red! and not even a true red, but a "verges on the edge of pink" red. not that there aren't people who like red or whatever shade of red the case happens to be - i'm sure there are; however, if the case had been black or dark gray, it would've sold far more units instead of still being on the shelf in every store (at least where i live, anyways.)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] utrx:
Hi all,

can someone post this .apk? Full Wifi?

I need it to configure Leap for wireless at work. I have a galaxy tab and the android market doesn't work for me no matter what I do.

Its free so I don't think there should be any problem

I'd really appreciate it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] utrx:
Shame. Not one person has this?

:(
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] emms:
here you go :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] utrx:
Thanks! You're such a nice soul!
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] zondev:
Full Wifi 1.10

Hi all,

does anyone has the Full Wifi 10.0 .apk?

Any other version doesn't work for me...

Thanks
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] makisgregoriou:
Does anyone know any good and useful application compatible with HD Mini such as, digital compass, stopwatch, ebay etc.? If you have any other app to suggest don't hesitate!:)
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] Benjos:
you can find a lot of working applications in this threat http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=667987
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] makisgregoriou:
looking forward to! :)
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] makisgregoriou:
when is your website going to be ready?!
[HD Mini Themes and Apps] Benjos:
I'm very busy lately with my work. My web page will be ready when i find extra free time. you can find a big list of working apps by nsourm here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7774889&postcount=136. And a litle bit smaler list by me here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8025836&postcount=154 . Goggle search for downloading.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] gulbrillo:
I pulled the Gallery.apk out of /system/app/ from a Virtual Device running SDK Platform Android 2.2, API 8, revision 2, and copied it into my JPO (Doc's ROM v7.6.2) /system/app/ folder. In contrast to the Email.apk which I "updated" the same way, it did not install automatically. Well, it does not install at all. I cannot find a way of installing it manually either. Can it be that it isn't compatible? :(

btw: The SDK Email.apk is very nice and works without any problems so far. But I don't like the Samsung gallery (sensor-bug) and I don't like the old gallery (slow, low resolution) and hoped, the SDK one is somehow improved. :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] daniel.weck:
Try this build:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=752007

:)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] gulbrillo:
Thanks :) But I tried before and the Gallery3D higher res MOD seems to have an issue with Galaxy S (black bar next to Thumbnails, wrong scaling, ...)

Since the SDK Email.apk worked so flawlessly I just hoped the original Gallery.apk would work as well. Hmmm... Any way how I could find out why it's not installing?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] uherrera:
Hi,

I downloaded the latest flash tool for xperia x10 and the 2.1 generic global firmware.

I follow the instructions to restart my phone in flash mode and the flash tool automaticallty detects and flashes it.

But after the phone restarts it looks the same and the about page still claims the firmware 1.6.

I used to own a G1 and with 2.1 cyanogen installed so i know it's supposed to look different.

Am I missing something? should I install an generic 1.6 first?

Edit for additional Info:

Tried the firmware here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=683793

Then tried: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=825675

using the flash tool here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=827065

instead of the one incluided on the packaged above because they all gave me errors with java.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] SXUsr:
Post a link to what you used.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] uherrera:
updated with more info.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] SXUsr:
Just run it again.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] uherrera:
I've ran it many times now. I know the phone is supposed to last about 5-6 seconds on flash mode and then boots normally but it still does it while flashing.

Shouldn't the phone stay in flash mode until the entire process is over?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] SXUsr:
It should stay in flashmode until you unplug it. Not sure what your issue is. Try removing the battery for at least 10 seconds and try again.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pepy_24:
Is there any app that can help you make folders/photo albums visible?

Default album viewer isn't able to do that (it shows all possible pics on sd card) so i will appreciate any help from you guys.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] buff_rob1256:
I too am looking for something like this, found an app called 'justpictures' but i'd still have something more like the htc photo album
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pepy_24:
Better then album :) Thanks a lot dude
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] dettofatto:
Graet! Much better than stock album and gallery 3d!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Mol:
Yes, much better indeed.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] sridharrn:
Try "Picture Folder"

This is best and simple :) :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] buff_rob1256:
More along the lines of what I wanted, thanks alot :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ionutph:
Are you serious ? :confused: On my Mini the pictures are blured (not sharp) on fullscreen view and when viewing with zoom the picture does not load, it is like apliyng digital zoom a small resolution photo. Well, sometimes on some pictures the zoom works and load the full resolution picture but it is slow.

edit: I have found that if i open an album in portrait mode and then turn to landscape mode the pictures are blurier and zoom is not loading 100% resolution photo. Maybe it creates cache for portrait and when turn in landscape mode it uses the same caches(thumbnails at 240x***?) and it looks blurier. For zoom that not work i can't find any excuses.

edit2: It looks like default Album is displaying photos in zoom mode 100% with fewer colors than justpictures. The gradients can be seen. maybe that's why is faster at zooming than justpictures.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] raphaelc:
floating image

I tried a bunch of photo album apps, and the best in my opinion is Floating Image. You can customize which folders you want (my photos albums are simply organised by folders/sub-folders so it's great for me) and the layout is superb. The only problem I have with it is that you can't zoom when vewing photos but I think it's because X10 mini isn't multi-touch : you have to keep pressing on the photo to bring up a menu and open the photo with the default vewing app and then zoom. Besides that, this app is the best.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] xnomox:
I think this thread is posted in the wrong section. This should be in Themes and Apps subforum and not in Android Development
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] robu2:
QuickPic is my choice for photos, shows photos in folders (can hide specific folders), very fast thumbnail generation, good quality.