yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant Android Development] BruceElliott:
Do you see bug after bug reported, page after page, in this thread? That is why it is still beta. You will know when it is ready for full release, not by what label the devs stick on it, but by reading these posts following each release.

When the bug reports thin out, I install. (E.g., I am currently on Bionix 1.9.1!) Why? Because my phone is an important tool in my work and must be essentially bug-free. Nero B3 is TW's 7th release of their custom Froyo-based ROM (including 4 versions of Obsidian, of course). Bionix (TW's Eclair-based ROM) was essentially bug-free after maybe 10-12 revs (as I recall, Som started with 0.x). So, I will probably give Nero another rev or 2 before flashing. Again, I cannot predict; the forum comments tell the story.

By the way, neither can the devs predict. All they know about is performance in their own, limited environments. They have no idea how bug-free a release is, because they lack the hardware, software, and manpower resources to test even a fraction of the various environments out there on hundreds or thousands of ROMer's phones. Even Microsoft, with all of the resources in the universe, cannot produce a stable product without throwing it out for millions of people to test. In fact, to me it is a miracle that the devs can produce an essentially bug-free product with so few resources after as few releases as they do. Thus, when you see a dev's comment that a release is "bug free," "uber stable," or the like, take it with a grain of salt. What such comments really mean is "I have worked my butt off; and this release better be stable."

But it probably will not be, until about the 10th release (given TW's history), and that assuming that the dev is diligently noting the bug complaints and incorporating the respective fixes. Diverting precious resources from bug-fixing to chasing additional "features" obviously does not do much for stability. I believe that a big reason why TW has been so successful over many months is that they have read the bug posts and are unusually responsive to incorporating the fixes.

I should note, by the way, that I am not necessarily a very good citizen in the community. If everyone followed my conservative ROM'ing philosophy, a stable ROM would likely never get produced for the reasons that I cited above. So, hats-off to the intrepid among us who flash all of these early releases! I for one appreciate everyone's work.

Bruce
[Vibrant Android Development] ajftl:
Just flash the cm6 mms fix a couple of page back. It would replace the stock messenger for the froyo cm6

Can't imagine doing that "fix" when.u have over 300 contacts ..lol

sent from me!! using nero 3
[Vibrant Android Development] ajftl:
Lol he's an idiot.

sent from me!! using nero 3
[Vibrant Android Development] eminembdg:
I have no bugs, do idk what you guys with "bugs" are doing wrong.
[Vibrant Android Development] :
My display in settings gets forced closed :( it didn't before

Edit got it working again
[Vibrant Android Development] BruceElliott:
Why not just freeze them with Titanium? That is easily reversible if disabling causes problems.
[Vibrant Android Development] jlaval:
Stuck at Vibrant screen

How come nobody is Stuck at Vibrant screen? :confused: Happened twice after Odin+Nero3+OCLF2.2+TB then reboot and nothing...flashed the IO kernel and all is good now, super snappy!:D
[Vibrant Android Development] ugokind:
other issues

photo and camera .. after a random time you start them (to record i.e. something that you want to wait for.. )becomes locked.. I mean I have to press home button to exit because the back butto never quit them.

ps. live wallpaper is awesome.. but suck battery!

see the system panel if you are not agreee with me
[Vibrant Android Development] Charlie Brown:
Good greef...........aaaanyway.

So far so good TW. I'm on Nero 3 with the 1.4 OC BLN kernel. One question. When I open Back Light Notification (so I can set it up and use it) a message window tells me there is an update but my phone is not compatible.

I tried to read older posts but this thread gains about 30 pages a day!!

Cheers and thanks TW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] shubonker:
One issue i am having is that whenever i delete something from Files, the system remounts and scans for media again. Weird and annoying... But overall, good release, can't wait for a final!
[Vibrant Android Development] gravelox:
Maps is the first thing I check after a CW flash. If it FC's, then it's time to Odin. I'm not saying it's a perfect predictor of bad things, but I've had good success with this as a metric.
[Vibrant Android Development] :
Dude that's with every ROM. May I suggest the app "Rescan Media Root". That will disable the media scanner and poof! Problem solved!
[Vibrant Android Development] LTonthetrack_G1:
yeah...i had that prob for a sec.....but I went to recovery and flashed a older rom....then it let me do the transfer...then i went back to clockwork and flashed Nero 3 and everything is fine...
[Vibrant Android Development] anthonys2r:
Thats not a bug
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
can't wait until we can get GingerBread on our phones!!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] kennyp987:
werd...cant be too long now
[Vibrant Android Development] briankao1992:
Anyone else's phone get progressively laggier after being on?
[Vibrant Android Development] RaymondPJR:
Nero

The guy who posted the easy mms fix finally convinced me to flash. I figure I could live with any other bugs except that one. I am speechless! Everything is so fast! I accept responsibility for getting flamed for not reporting bugs as I should, but right now I'm just not concerned about it as I am dumbstruck. A question, though. Who is going to spring me out of jail when I fly to Korea and pimpslap any Samsung execs that I can find? Really, I see no reason why they could not figure out how to get there own product to work this well. I'll be donating again tomorrow and look forward to the final version. Thanks TW!:D:D:D
[Vibrant Android Development] TheSVdeal:
Downloaded, about to Odin and flash. . .Can't wait to see!
[Vibrant Android Development] hitman818:
Your suppose to flash the sd card fix.
[Vibrant Android Development] HRodMusic:
me too bro!! cant wait!! but for now this should do, Nero 3 OCLF and Super io kernel, my phone is soo speedy!!
[Vibrant Android Development] deadpass:
Been running Nero b3 for about 6 hours now. It's very fast and snappy. Things I've noticed so far

compass doesn't work, points about 90 degree off or so.

I'm also getting the contact misassignment from incoming SMS messages. I'll also get a message and when I unlock the phone there is no message. I have to back out to my inbox (where it says "no subject") and click on the message to read it.

this is on stock nero 3 kernel, no lag fix.
[Vibrant Android Development] dex1701:
Ah, thank you! I keep asking if the compass works and nobody responds. Looks like I'm going back to Axura until it's working on Nero. Too bad, I really like Nero better, but I actually need my compass working for a couple of apps I use almost daily. Thanks again!
[Vibrant Android Development] ozmulti:
Hey,

sorry for the late reply. I have frozen these applications with Titanium Backup.

I force removed Wifi calling but got too many 'force close' errors .

so i wouldnt advise removing any of the applications as they could also cause FC errors similar to Wifi calling.

...

I am hoping these get removed in the final version of Nero. Maybe one of the developers will pick up on it. Wifi Calling has already been removed in Beta 3.
[Vibrant Android Development] ozmulti:
absolutely.
[Vibrant Android Development] ozmulti:
I know this is a small niggle. But maybe it should be added to opening post as rejoinder so that people do not brick their phones. If they do they panic and flood the forum so it would be in everyones best interest.
[Vibrant Android Development] ozmulti:
Note: I am reporting bugs in Nero 2 Beta. It is an awesome rom and i wouldnt be reporting if i didnt think it could be better.

Thank You Team Whisky

I flashed to Stock with Odin and Then installed Nero 2 Beta.

I also had these same problems.

I also had another problem, it was that my messages pool up at the top and the other persons messages pool up at the bottom instead of like a conversation between two people.
[Vibrant Android Development] ozmulti:
This happens with me too. Beta 2.

Note: just bug reporting. not *****ing.

Thank you Team Whiskey
[Vibrant Android Development] deadpass:
no problem, reading your post reminded me to check it.
[Vibrant Android Development] iynfynity:
i think that's normal.
[Vibrant Android Development] HRodMusic:
im not sure if this is a bug, but i tried buying an app over the market and its not authorizing the purchase, its been almost 20 mins and nothing!! tried buying another app and same shizz!@
[Vibrant Android Development] djdiablo:
Did you install the Destroyer Of Worlds kernel? If so install setcpu, overclock to 1.3 and try again.

If you still can't those numbers here might be your answer and this is VERY IMPORTANT!!

If anyone here cannot install lagfix from OCLF make sure you have at least 40% battery or higher, this screwed me up big time! It said it was unavailable no matter how many times I tried to figure it out I couldn't until I saw that stupid message, it was my battery all along that was preventing the lagfix install.

:)
[Vibrant Android Development] nonmindo:
Anyone else only able to access their picasa albums in the gallery? Neither of my pictures or external pictures are found, when I use astronomical they are there and have thumbnail icon, but when I try to open them it just shows a blank screen
[Vibrant Android Development] Lenuin:
I reflashed nero3 and my haptic is still not adjustable. . . is there a setting somewhere else i'm overlooking, or a program that might potentially interfere?

I unfortunately don't have the time to do an odin flash back to stock and try from there, but i had no issues in obsidian. . .

EDIT: It just seems to affect the menu icons on the bottom... they just feel like the phone is, well, grunting, when i hit the back button and get the haptic response.
[Vibrant Android Development] qroche85:
Is this ROM deodexed? I'd like to use UOT kitchen to change the notification bar icon, I do'nt like green personally :D
[Vibrant Android Development] flintpez:
Hey, Nero seems killer so far. My only issue is that wifi won't connect. Available connections are shown, but the phone won't actually connect to any after adding key. Eugene's Ginger Clone does exactly the same thing. Don't have this issue on non-JL1 builds. Any ideas? This is just odd. Thanks.
[Vibrant Android Development] irockstar661:
Love this rom. I have been using it since beta 2 and now on beta 3. What I don't understand is how can we give the ddevelopers an accurate review if we don't 1. Flash back down using Odin 2. Modify adt 'l apps and kernels. I was having issues first when I flashed the beta 2 over axura. But when I decided.to do this properly and flash back to stock before using beta 3 I have yet to see a single "bug". No issues whatsoever TW keep it up... and may I suggest next time find some "beta " testers who will give a more.accurate and complete live world test. Thanks for your hard work.
[Vibrant Android Development] eminembdg:
In connecting to wifi totally fine.
[Vibrant Android Development] Jibreil:
Need some experienced recommendation!!!

- Nero Dragon for Beta 3 or DoW @1.4 Nero3 w/ BLN?
[Vibrant Android Development] irockstar661:
Again.....TW. love this rom. Best I have ever used.

sent from a lightning fast vibrant using nero 3 beta w /oclf and dow 1.4
[Vibrant Android Development] huasamaya:
I use ZEAN launcher, but i'm would also like to know this answer.. ANY1??
[Vibrant Android Development] hypersonicx:
Im not sure if this is a bug or not but after flashing the 2.2 rom it booted up fine but I then decided to go back to 2.1 so I wiped and did a nandroid restore and after restore the phone wouldnt boot back up and it didnt boot into recovery so I had to do a odin back to 2.1 stock.
[Vibrant Android Development] barmanham:
Is it just me or is this really laggy almost thinking about going back to 2.1 does oclf fix it
[Vibrant Android Development] spdrcr999:
Media Hub

I assume that I may have had a somewhat unique problem, where I could run Media Hub and see previews just fine, but could not view any purchased items. I just want to say that this ROM is the first one of MANY that I have flashed that I can finally see the movie I purchased a few weeks ago...Thank you Team Whiskey for all of your hard work! It is very much appreciated! A shot is on the way from me, enjoy.:)
[Vibrant Android Development] cashyftw:
I though it was pretty laggy also, I went back to 2.1 for the time being.
[Vibrant Android Development] jesus752:
I can't, I get a force close when I hit display.. Strange.
[Vibrant Android Development] Steeltippin:
Haven't seen anyone mention or does any search results in this thread mention it, but can anyone confirm if flash 10.1 is operational? Sorry if this has been mentioned already.
[Vibrant Android Development] krichek:
I do not have this problem.. Played several clips from both internal storage and from the sdcard without issue.

I currently have my font set to Bauhaus from the market and it's working just fine.
[Vibrant Android Development] ajftl:
not a bug....when u going from a 2.2 back to 2.1 via nandroid u need to do a 2.1 kernel also..like after nandroid finish then the 2.1 kernel .
[Vibrant Android Development] PaiPiePia:
no problem, it was bugging me too. So glad now I don't have to be stuck with useless bookmarks. :D
[Vibrant Android Development] PaiPiePia:
yes, and before you ask hulu doesn't work with stock flash 10.1
[Vibrant Android Development] hypersonicx:
gotcha that does make sense thx!
[Vibrant Android Development] xplod420:
I searched but did not find anything. Will a core 2 1.2 kernel work with this rom? Maybe i did it wrong. but i tried flashing the kernel after a flashed the rom, and got stock in the boot loop. Also if the z4mod will work with this rom.
[Vibrant Android Development] PaiPiePia:
I believe core is using a 2.1 kernel, which is why it bricked your phone.
[Vibrant Android Development] hypersonicx:
Same thing happend to me so ima say no on that one lol.

I noticed the small lag in scrolling ect and was tryin to make it faster. Looks like we need a oc 2.2 kernal.
[Vibrant Android Development] PaiPiePia:
As in scrolling in the browser?
[Vibrant Android Development] :
yeah, it's strange. mine started to sync. but after about a quarter of the way into it... it just stopped. and it has never finished syncing. so i have some of my fb contacts on my phone...but no where near all of them.
[Vibrant Android Development] xplod420:
what about z4mod. its a lag fix kind of like a voodoo lag fix.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
I'd pull it off my phone and put up a link if I was anywhere near a computer. Sorry!
[Vibrant Android Development] smashpunks:
Man how are some of you having so many issues... Random Fc, video player crashing, lagging or just weird ****....

only issues I have are not deleting bookmarks in browser which there's a fix and mounting pc to internal sd, other than that its great..... No lag what so ever, in fact I don't care for a lag fix...

Reflash, hard reset or move on cause this is pretty good y'all....
[Vibrant Android Development] boodies:
Hey guys, any of you have the original build.prop? I installed Eris Market Fix and it didn't do shiet. I uninstalled and it didnt revert the build.prop. Thanks!
[Vibrant Android Development] Jibreil:
DoW @1.4 Nero3 w/ BLN my Media Scanning gets over in 2 seconds. Earlier even with Super IO Kernel the Media Scanning used to take 10-15 seconds.
[Vibrant Android Development] irockstar661:
I have only used the tw kernels but out of the two I suggest 1.4. Seems to be far more stable then some other kernels. And to.save battery life.when not in use clock it down a bit.with setcpu.

sent from a lightning fast vibrant using nero 3 beta w /oclf and dow 1.4
[Vibrant Android Development] huasamaya:
works fine here as well.
[Vibrant Android Development] jrizk07:
Thank you, This is exactly what I was saying earlier.

The only "bug" that I possibly see is the texting problem. Where it shows a different name than the person who sent the text. Running odin literally Takes 10 minutes.

All you need to do is...

-Odin back to JFD

-Once you boot back into the phone, restart and go into recovery (Hold down both volume buttons + power)

-It'll go to stock recovery, hit reinstall packages. Phone will reboot and go back to stock recovery, hit reinstall packages again and it should go to CWM.

-From here install Nero 3

That's it, the ROM already contains root so it'll reroot you and clockwork is still installed.

The first thing you should do when you boot Nero for the first time is to launch the market, sign into your google account and accept the license agreement. This will keep your market working.

For everyone else having issues other than what's in red you should Odin back to stock and reflash
[Vibrant Android Development] ppriyank:
call audio via headphones (without mic) works!!!

WOW...i'm amazed...this is the first 2.2 ROM that i put on my vibrant that has the audio out from headphones while in call work!!! i use beats by dre (tour) headphones, and before everytime some1 called, i'd have to unplug my headphones in order to talk, but now i can just keep them on, and talk on the phone (like a speakerphone)...Can't wait to try it out in my car with the AUX!!!

THANX BRO!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] daenigma:
Question does the app drawer seem unresponsive to scrolling at times to anyone else?

I mean I will try to scroll and nothing happens, then after a few tries it is fine.

The phone is receiving input because when I am trying to scroll the app drawer home button will light as I pass over it.
[Vibrant Android Development] Jibreil:
How many apps do you have installed? Try doing a clean re-install (without Titanium backup and restore).
[Vibrant Android Development] justlovejoy:
loving this rom but i cannot tell if i am getting good battery or not cause it stays fully green until i'm down about 15 20 percent. i like the green battery too. so i guess its not that bad but i have noticed because i use a black background that the notification bar has a teenie little hair line ,line across the bottom of it which throws off the whole look of a black background. i wanna learn how to develop on my own so i do not seem like a picky bastard who cant ever be satisfied. pm me a few links to any helpful guides and i'm in like swimwear on gingerbreaded woman cookies!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] DangerousDave:
Yes, I see this on occasion as well. I haven't Odin'd back to stock in while. I might try that to see if it clears up. This is really the only issue I have seen though.
[Vibrant Android Development] rhondahz:
Please help phone stuck on flashing rom

Can someone please help me. I have flashed numerous roms with clockwork, odin back to stock each time. For some reason I keep getting stuck on flashing the rom. I even tried to flash back to the rom I just came from. No luck! This is what is showing on screen where it has been stuck on for the last hour.

--Installing SDCARD:/Nero_Beta_3.zip

Finding update package...

Opening update package...

Installing update...

Thanks in advance
[Vibrant Android Development] chichu_9:
odin back to Stock using download mode & select repartition so that it will help you make a clean start. Then try to upgrade to Nero using Clockwork recovery
[Vibrant Android Development] Whitehawkx:
First thing I would try is re-downloading it. Usually is just due to a bad download.
[Vibrant Android Development] BlackElvis79:
I personally don't think that its necessary to use Odin every time you flash. I don't ever use it. Just wipe data (factory reset) and wipe cache before every flash, and I haven't had any problems with any rom other than the known bugs. It just makes things harder than they have to be.
[Vibrant Android Development] dartballstar:
Wifi Calling for Nero Beta 3?

Unlike most of you, I actually use the wifi calling app on a daily basis. I have very little reliable signal where I live, and wifi calling has made my life a lot easier. I have searched this thread, the development forum, and the apps and themes forum, but I have been unable to find a way to make the wifi calling app work with Nero Beta 3. Aside from this issue, I love this rom. Of course, I have loved all of TW's work that I've tried. I would really hate to leave all of this gingerbready goodness behind to go back to the Stock JK6 Deodexed rom, but I may have to if I can't get wifi calling working. Any ideas?
[Vibrant Android Development] irockstar661:
Possibly a bad file. Maybe delete the zip and re download it?

sent from a lightning fast vibrant using nero 3 beta w /oclf and dow 1.4
[Vibrant Android Development] irockstar661:
Would you use the same theory when working on your car? Let me just add the oil to it no need to change it why make the work harder? Yes it will be fine for a while but eventually BOOM. Hard work pays off my friend.

sent from a lightning fast vibrant using nero 3 beta w /oclf and dow 1.4
[Vibrant Android Development] BlackElvis79:
To each his own. Haven't had any problems since I rooted the phone when it first dropped. The installation instructions don't say you must use odin ... why is that? Because its not necessary. I do understand what you're saying but your comparison is apples to oranges.
[Vibrant Android Development] funeralthirst:
i just uninstalled maps with titanium, rebooted, reinstalled from market and it works fine now. everything works great now. got 19 linpack and 1100+ quadrant with just nero and dow14.
[Vibrant Android Development] rhondahz:
Thanks so much for your quick responses chichu_9, whitehawkx, blackElvis and irockstar661. I did try and redownload the rom the only thing I didn't do was repartition, I have read mixed feelings from members on checking that in ODIN. I will redownload the rom and ODIN back to stock and check the reparition box this time.
[Vibrant Android Development] chichu_9:
Just did the same the other day, Dont worry you should be fine. Use the repartiton option only while going to Stock.
[Vibrant Android Development] deeoh1084:
sorry i'm still searching but i can't find it for some reason where can i find "dow 1.4"?? thanks in advance
[Vibrant Android Development] Jdom58:
Sorry pal but your analogy just doesn't apply here, it just ain't the same.

I like the person you are criticizing (Blackelvis) have not had the need to use ODIN one time. I have flashed and tested every ROM that has come out in the past months and the only bugs I have encountered were from the rom itself and were noted by the OP of the thread. So no need to ODIN every time you flash a new rom. I just make sure to manually wipe data, wipe cache, and dalvik before flashing the rom and have yet to ecounter any problems.
[Vibrant Android Development] deeoh1084:
where can i find DoW 1.4?? i was trying to search it but it won't give me any results... :( thanks in advance
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Because its on team whiskys website in morfics.castle

Nerobeta3+dow1.4+oclf
[Vibrant Android Development] deeoh1084:
thank u good sir :D
[Vibrant Android Development] petsrocktheguitar:
Thanks Team Whiskey!

Only bug encountered by me is the same one I always have...external sd 2.19gb capacity (although it shows up correctly under properties). and yes I odined back to jfd, install beta 3, wipe, the works. But overall, I love this rom, and i've learned to live with the sd issue...for those that have it, change to media player in usb settings and then you can copy your data back and forth without error. Great work guys and thanks again.