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[Galaxy Tab General] angasreid:
So according to this site (and the rest of the internet): http://www.intomobile.com/2010/11/02/verizon-samsung-galaxy-tab-gets-no-3g-skype-calling/

"Verizon’s deal with Skype puts a special version of Skype on Verizon’s Android phones that makes calls through a 3G voice gateway. Apparently, that isn’t going to work on the Verizon Galaxy Tab.

Rather, Verizon’s Tab—like all of them—will be able to use the “direct-to-consumer” version of Skype Mobile, which only works on Wi-Fi networks in the US."

Here's my theory. Get the Skype App from non-Verizon tabs, and replace on the Verizon tab. Think that would work?
[Galaxy Tab General] deafjam:
I guess we will find out when we get it! I'm going to go over to t mobile on Wednesday to see what price their galaxy tabs will be off contract. they get them on Wednesday. Otherwise I have myself on a waiting list for the Verizon version. Can't keep my mind off this lol. I'm anxious.
[Galaxy Tab General] foxmeister:
Skype is on the Market, and can be downloaded from m.skype.com.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Tab General] hourst2:
Got Skype from market and it gives an error stating that 3g Skype does not work in the US. You can download an app called NetDial and that works great.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab.
[Galaxy Tab General] ggolemg:
3G enabled/hacked skype:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=800834
[Droid 2 General] Fazlaga:
Need help with one click root or any root. Can anyone help
[Droid 2 General] JDunc:
Well what seems to be the problem?
[Droid 2 General] darkonion:
Use the Easier 1-2-3 Root stickied here in Droid 2 Development, and then let me know where you need help.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
So this changes a Bell-branded phone so that it can flash HTC ROMs, right ? Because even the "BellMobility" ROMs still seem to have "WWE" in their title.

What happens if you try to flash an HTC ROM to a Bell phone without this ? Would be useful to know, just for info.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shubjero:
I can confirm that I was the test subject on IRC and this unbranding of my Bell Desire Z worked perfectly.

I now have things like HTC Locations, and Car Panel present on my phone, and things like non-uninstallable game demos of Ashphalt, Golf, Uno, Bell PVR, GPS Navigator, Kobo, Zoompass, Tunes & Apps, TV & Radio are all gone.

After unbranding, everything is working as expected.

Thanks a ton to the op for dedicating his time on helping me unbrand my phone!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pixelwix:
Will this work on the G2?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
Humm never noticed the WWE in the bell mobility rom (could be to do with the Z being a WWE phone and the G2 not, but as they are moth the vision), but regardless you should be able to flash any Z to the HTC- WWE "debranded rom"
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
What getting the Z rom on the G2 ?

if so we have tried and get "data too large" errors. but feel free to try (at your own risk as its never been done before)

i havent tried the 1.22.405.1 RUU

:-D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] CWolfCW:
Hm... so while I'm sorely tempted to try this, are there any downsides to debranding atm? Will it affect OTA updates in the future?

I'm assuming it'll void warranty, heh. The only real benefits are just to get rid of the Bell only stuff though I'm assuming?

Er, also wanted to ask something else: Where exactly are you guys finding the ROMs for the HTC Desire Z (NA)? All the ones I find are EU or AP.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
well any ota you should be able to flash :-D .... also u can always flash the bell RUU if u want or need it back as it shipped
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
There appears to be one on the first page of this forum, at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=815253

Given how long it's been there though, I'd be suprised if that's the ROM version that's shipping for Bell.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] seattleboi1982:
can't wait to get home and do this so i can get Locations and car panel
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] CWolfCW:
I think I'm going to hold off until a more current official NAM version of the HTC Desire Z ROM is available as it seems like only the EU/AP versions are available (unless I'm misunderstanding).

Atm, by disabling packages, I can get close to 'debrand' without having to flash. Only thing is I won't be able to get access to HTC Locations and Car Panel afaik.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] FireGX:
Sorry, this may seem obvious, but does doing this require root? I'm pretty new to Android.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
Great news !!

Thanks for sharing

Let the fun begin :D

And regarding:

Where ?? from this same forum !!

User football posted some HTC RUU flashers some weeks ago:

[ROM]RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e _26.03.02.18_M2 (the debranded, world ROM flasher)

[ROM]RUU_Vision_BellMobility_WWE_1.34.666.1_Radio_12.28 b.60.140e_26.03.02.18_M2 (to flash back to Bell branded)

[ROM]RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.22.405.1_Radio_12.26.60.1301_ 26.02.00.24_M2_release (a previous release)

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Stratrix:
i'm assuming this doesn't remove sense?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
nope, you will even get MORE SENSE :D

(since Bell removed some HTC sense apps, and this firmware is the original, "purest" HTC Sense firmware)

but there's another thread you may be interested in:

"[GUIDE] How to remove sense (almost...)"

check it
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shubjero:
Download VISIONary from the Android market. You will need this to 'temporarily' root your phone which is required for this process to work.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
Rooting with VISIONary is now permanent

:cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] arich:
not exactly, it will be tomorrow. there are some extra steps in conjunction w/ VISIONary that are required right now
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] y2jdmbfan:
Can anyone confirm that this is the same version that is shipping on the Bell Z? I am showing Build 1.34.666.5 on my Bell Z. I want to be able to get back to unrooted stock Bell firmware if I Desire. Will this unroot if I flash back to this ROM?

Thanks,

Y2J
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] FireGX:
My Bell Desire Z is also 1.34.666.5. I don't think it's the same as the one posted...

And yea, now that VISIONary is perma-root, is there a way to unroot the device? Do I simply uninstall the program?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
the new app includes an un-root option
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] da_enlightener:
I have a Bell desire z. If i debrand it, do I get access to HTC locations WITH the North American Maps?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
give it a try...

I did it and it downloaded OK, still no big deal of info here in my location (useless), but HTC Locations downloaded to my city's location

Car Panel, Locations, Maps, latitude is all integrated, there's a cool widget too
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] shubjero:
Yes the North American maps are included, however everyone needs to realize that the HTC offline maps located inside of the 'Car Panel' program are considered a premium service. As such, you are entitled to a 30 day trial which can be activated when you first utilize the premium navigation. Once that's up, I assume you pay some sort of recurring fee. If you choose not to continue with the premium navigation, they also provide the standard 'google navigation' which most of us are already familiar with.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] arkman123:
I de-branded my Bell Desire Z using the instructions here with very little problem. Thanks.

All the HTC stuff is present and working. Locations has some pay stuff (as mentioned above) and isn't as good as I had hoped. The other HTC stuff works fine and the rest of the phone works fine as well. Happy to be rid of the Bell Bloat Ware.

Also, unlocked and working great on Rogers.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
@Apache14:

I just uploaded the extracted PC10IMG.ZIP from Euro/Generic WWE 1.34.405.5

Feel free to link it from your first post

You can find it here at "Resources" at the end of first post
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Just wondering if the thread title should also have the words "Bell" in there somewhere, since it's specifically the Bell Desire Z that this is intended for ?

Just raising this as I was looking back through some threads and thinking about whether it's clear whether the procedures in any thread might be an issue if run on an Asian DZ.

Edit: DONE ~TheRomMistress
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] aridoasis:
i'm trying to do step 3, but when doing the 'dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 of=/sdcard/misc.img' line, i'm getting cannot open for write: Read-only.

what should i do?

and btw, what the benefit og unbranding other than gaining some apps and losing the bloatware?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
The Gold card procedure could do with some clarification, based on my experience with it as we speak. The procedure needs to access the SD card for the hex editor but doesn't say anything about putting it in the PC or mounting it from the phone (via "disk drive" mode).

I figured it out myself though.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Based on having done this myself, on a European DZ, I now wonder whether this thread shouldn't perhaps be renamed, to something along the lines of "How to revert to an older ROM" - because that's all it's doing (and the debranding of the Bell phone is just installing an older European ROM).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lennyuk:
yes this is basically a thread to debrand/flash an OLDER RUU.

it should be renamed as such please TRM :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bellkingsway:
I'm stuck on the final step.....

Once in the Bootloader, it searches through the zip file, only to say that their is either no, or an incorrect rom in the .zip file.

Any clarification on this?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Where did you get the .zip file from ? What is in it and what is it called on the SD card ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bellkingsway:
PC10IMG.zip, I got it from this thread, two different sources. One was the HTC .exe, the other a direct link to the zip.

Any suggestions?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
So it's a zip file, and when you open it up you can see boot.img, radio.img, etc, etc ? And it's in the root of your SD card, right ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Nighte:
I'm excited to do this!

I'm buying my Desire Z sometime this week and it's gonna be fun to unlock and debrand it, hopefully everything goes smoothly...

I have a question though, you say format my SD card into FAT32, I have mine partitioned right now (FAT32, EXT2/3 I think), I can partition it again on my current phone using the recovery, how should I allot the spacing and whatnot to suit the needs of this debranding process?

Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bellkingsway:
I'll double check the folder, although I'm not sure that's the issue because it recognizes the file in the bootloader it just says no Rom found, or bad rom. And yes the zip does include .img files.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
What version ROM are you trying to flash, 1.34.405.5 ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bellkingsway:
I can only assume so, I followed the links in the first post for the roms and I changed the newmisc.img to accept that aswell.

One thing I did notice is I can't unzipped the file from the phone, it just says bad zip....
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
ok, try this. This is the 1.34.405.5 ROM (the one linked from the first post, but just the ROM zip file, not the RUU .exe) that I flashed onto my phone after installing an older ROM for test purposes.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9728800/PC10IMG.zip
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bellkingsway:
Alright, I have that file already but ill download just to be sure.

Now, if I did not do the goldcard properly where would I be stuck?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
The goldcard/hex-editing bit doesn't come in till a bit later, as far as I'm aware, it would at least open the ROM and start flashing it. If you are flashing an older ROM like this, and haven't followed the procedures properly, it will flash some of it but then get "stuck" part-way through and probably just give you the white HTC screen, or similar. Your flashing isn't even starting though.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bellkingsway:
Yah, same deal it won't start.

*edit* I tried doing it from clockwork Rom manager as well, it did the same thing
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
I don't think it'll work from Clockwork, anyway, I think it's the wrong format for that. But it should work from HBOOT. No idea why yours doesn't, as I said, it worked fine for me.

I wonder if something has gone wrong with the Gold card procedure (given you hex-edit the SD card) that is confusing things ? Might be worth going through that bit again, i.e. saving stuff off your SD card, reformatting etc, doing the Gold card bit, etc.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bellkingsway:
Alright just a question about the gold card, is their supposed to be multiple files ie, misc.img and newmisc.img?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
That's not the gold card. The bit with misc.img is where you take a copy (via "dd") of the misc partition of the phone, hex edit it, and then write it back to the phone (again via "dd"). This fools the phone into thinking it's running the same version of ROM as the one you're trying to flash.

Not sure exactly what you mean about the multiple files, that bit is just where you copy off misc.img, hex-edit it and then save it as miscnew.img. Then it's miscnew.img that you dd back to the phone. It doesn't matter if you leave those files on your SD card or not, once you've finished all the dd stuff.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bellkingsway:
Yah... I'm gonna have to look over things again

Looking at it again, I didn't miss a step. I'll put off doing it till I get my replacement, thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Boosh63:
How is this done? I debranded mine and it works great but noe the phone needs to go in for service. I did not do a nandriod backup.

thanks in advance
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fatindian:
hey guys

I'll be getting my Desire Z in a few days. I'll also be a new android user, so please bare with my neophytic questions:

1. Is this ROM listed in the guide current? If there is a newer version out, where can I get it? I would prefer a vanilla Desire Z rom with HTC Sense (I will leave the more custom stuff for when I am more experienced with the android platform)

2. I'll be using the phone with Rogers, so when it is unbranded where would I get updates when 2.3 is released?

3. I'll only have the warranty with HTC, do they take issue with debranding and would I need to reinstall the Bell rom if I need to send the phone in?

Thanks in advance.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
You don't provide much info about your phone, so I will ASSUME you have a Bell branded Desire Z (north american version)

In such case, you don't need this complicated debranding method anymore,

I recommend you to read the [GUIDE] Easy flashing, debranding TUTORIAL and FAQs post

PS: damn I keep pressing the new "thanks" button instead of "quote"...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Me too ! See http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263 (post #33 onwards).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fatindian:
Well I posted in the Bell debranding thread and mentioned reflashing the Bell rom in my third question, so I figured my ownership of a Bell-branded device would be implied. :p

But thanks much for the help, I will follow that guide instead. Is there only one vanilla ROM available or have there been multiple iterations or updates?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Be aware that right now there doesn't seem to be an RUU/ROM image available for your current Bell ROM, only a slightly older Bell ROM. So if you are going to flash a new ROM, make sure you do a nandroid backup of the ROM via ROM Manager/Clockwork before you do so, so that you will be able to go back to your original ROM if you want (e.g. for warranty return).

There are various stock RUUs posted up on this forum, but a lot of them are older than the shipping version. One exception is the European stock ROM, where the stock shipping version is available, i.e. 1.34.405.5. You could try that out if you like.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fatindian:
I'm purchasing the phone from a third party, so I doubt I'll be eligible for Bell's warranty anyway, but I will make a back up regardless (or at least attempt it, I'll have to read all the guides thoroughly).

I think the Euro ROM is what I have downloaded currently, here's the file name:

RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155556_signed.exe

Any downsides to applying a European ROM to a North American handset?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
I would have thought the manufacturer's warranty would still apply though. Don't know about consumer laws in North America, but the warranty would still transfer if I bought a UK/European phone here in the UK.

Yes, that's the same version of the ROM that I have running on my phone, and I extracted the ROM image from that RUU when I wanted to flash my phone back to stock (after temporarily flashing to an older version as a test).

I don't think there should be any downsides for you ? I'm pretty sure the NAM Bell phones run the same radio version as we do here in Europe anyway, even though the phone uses different bands (set in hardware).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jonoball88:
can anybody tell me what the stock radio is on the bell 1.34.666.5 rom is?

is it: 12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.18_M2

or : 12.28b.60.140eU.26.03.02.26_M

or something completely different?

reason being i flashed the world rom (HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02. 26_m)

and my data cuts in and out and it drains the battery like crazy!

or would flashing this rom and radio work better for me:

RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e _26.03.02.18_M2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] redpoint73:
He is buying the Bell version and using it on Rogers, so he is either buying unlocked, or he is going to unlock it. Either voids the manufacturers warranty. Unless there is a way to relock the SIM?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
You can SIM lock via gfree.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] SSVR:
I'm stuck, guys :(

I have a Bell Desire Z running 1.34.666.5 as standard.

I've perma-rooted as per Rage (which should have S-Offed as well but that only lasted for one attempted flash before it went away...)

I keep getting incorrect model errors when I try to flash!

I'm trying to flash to the WWE edition Rom 1.34.405.5 per this guide.

I've followed this guide step for step to change the version on the phone to that of the update but it doesn't seem to change anywhere... Settings still reports the 666.5 bundle as does the RUU exe.

Any tips? I seem to be chasing my tail here!

Edit:

Fixed it myself.

I re-did the root/S-OFF via gfree and then retried the flash and it worked!

Edit2:

Just noticed that my root is now gone?! Is that usual to lose it after a flash?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Yes, that's usual, because when your phone is rooted, it's done with just a few files being added/changed in your system partition, and all that will be overwritten by the flash.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] SSVR:
Ah, that makes sense. Very happy with android sofar! Glad I've ditches the iPhone 4. Thanks for the help :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fatindian:
Hey guys,

I wasn't going to debrand because the phone is working fine and smoothly even with the Bell crapware on it.

However, the HTCsense.com features do not work, is this because Bell has removed (and made it impossible to reinstall) the HTC Locations application?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
I don't have a Bell ROM so I could be wrong on this. But I think HTCSense.com should in theory work on your phone just like all the other Sense ROMs.

You need to setup an account at HTCSense.com. The trouble is that HTC are still working on those features, and they seem to work fine for some users, but not others, for no apparent reason.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fatindian:
Yup, I've set up an account.

However, none of the features work. When I first set it up, "lock phone", "call phone", etc. were working fine, but now even those don't.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] beatryder:
I was having the same problems. I emailed HTC and apparently HTCsense.com is BETA and therefor not working properly.

I've noticed that recently some functions are working for me now. The location is the only thing not working for me now.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] superspacey:
I've got the rom that comes with the Bell version of the Desire Z and my HTCSense.com seems to work, well by that I mean the ability to cause the phone to ring and I can see my messages and call missed logs on their website. The footprint feature doesn't work.

I'm thinking about flashing to [DZ RUU] RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e _26.03.02.26_M as well.

I want the car panel but I want to keep HTC sense.

I've got perm root right now, s-off, cid unlocked (11111111) so that should probably be everything I need to do the next step...?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] footclan:
Superspacey -the next step is to simply run the RUU. I was just in the same boat as you and flashed my desire z and am now running the Euro rom.

Does anyone know if there is a bell stock rom available in case I need to flash this back? I was reading some older posts stating that older bell roms were available but nothing from the newer ones.

Superspacey - In case there isn't a newer bell stock rom available, you should make a nandroid backup before you flash the new rom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Karum:
Hey guys I was just wondering, as I need to set my phone back to stock as I am returning it for a replacement.

I have a UK Desire Z which is unbranded as I did not buy it from any network carrier.

I've found this thread through other ones....would the process in the original post in this thread set me back to the ROM the phone shipped with along with it being in that state? This phone has never had any official OTA update or anything like that installed. It came with whatever stock ROM HTC put on it and not modified by any carriers.

Thanks in advance.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Are you currently running a custom ROM on the phone now ? If so, and if you have radio S-OFF via gfree, then you don't need to go through this procedure, you can just flash the stock ROM/RUU. If you only have S-OFF via the eng hboot, then you do need this procedure.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Karum:
I am currently running a custom ROM (Team Villain's Supervillain Z) and I have S-OFF using this method - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=834950
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
I recommend you get yourself full radio S-OFF via this method - http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php...Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF

Then once you get that, you can just flash the new ROM and don't need to go through any special downgrading/debranding procedure.