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[Nexus One General] disgustip8ted:
I'm curious why some people don't have the gtalk option, it must be because you haven't donatedor u.pdated

As far as options outside of the built in sip into gingerbread I just set up sip droid to use pbxes.org as the server and my extension set up in pbxes as the log in and it called out with my g talk and shows up to the called party as my google voice number. Drawbacks: with siodroid for some reason it requires you to have the screenon during the call
[Nexus One General] irha:
My apologies, I just went back to check and it was there. I am pretty sure it wasn't there a few days back, as I specifically looked for it, so not sure if it was added as part of a recent upgrade?
[Nexus One General] irha:
Do you have to upgrade to get this feature in pbxes? I don't see gtalk as an option. Besides, it seems like you have to give out your google a/c password to pbxes, which is not going to be trustworthy. You can setup a new google voice number for that, but I don't want to deal with yet another number, so I will have to look into how to get the existing setup with IPKall to work better with pbxes.org instead of using localphone. I can't find a decent guide on how to do accomplish this.

Update: I found this guide to be concise and clear and I got it working: http://pcprob.blogspot.com/2011/01/howto-free-voip-on-android-phone.html
[Nexus One General] DJ-VAN:
Sorry I meant to post sooner but I was trying to figure out why auto answer doesn't work with my voip dialer.

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=2841d43976cd0c0d&hl=en

That is why gtalk doesn't show as a call option. You need to make a call through gmail before you see this option.
[Nexus One General] irha:
That might explain why I didn't see it initially, thanks for pointing out. However, I still can't get the google talk app to ring when I select this as the callback, though my desktop rings fine.
[Nexus One General] disgustip8ted:
google talk app? that does not have sip support on android

you need a sip client like the settings built into gingerbread or sipdroid or csipsimple
[Nexus One General] irha:
I think google talk uses xmpp not sip, besides how can a sip client log into google talk service?
[Nexus One General] disgustip8ted:
that is correct, gtalk uses xmpp, however when your gtalk caller info is set up in pbxes you connect to pbxes server via a sip account(extension as username and specified password). how they delegate the call is beyond me though.
[Nexus One General] bombaw8:
Anyone had problem with incoming calls only rings for about 10 seconds using sipdrpid/pbxes/gtalk setup?

It seemed to be a problem with pbxes/gtalk trunk since I had the same problem with csipsimple client.

Everything worked well so far.
[Nexus One General] irha:
I didn't find the option to setup gtalk in pbxes, you probably have to be a paying customer, right?

All along, I was assuming that google talk app on android supported voice chat, but yesterday I realized that google never added that feature. No wonder it didn't ring when I selected gtalk as callback :)
[Nexus One General] disgustip8ted:
ive noticed this recently, havent narrowed it down to either a recent CM7 nightly or the change from gizmoto ipkall/gtalk voip. i would likely bet it is something with CM7 since i believe it generates the ring at this point( but at this point im just talking out my ass and speculating)

take a glance though my instructions again and you will find it ;)
[Nexus One General] jonesy420:
when setting up extensions in pbxes should i choose sip or classic?
[Nexus One General] bombaw8:
neither, if you are trying to create a gtalk trunk. gtalk trunk creation is not a standard option for free pbxes accounts. it's actually pretty easy to fool the process but best way to do it is just to follow the OP's instructions and create an account via sipdroid. why not doing it the the official way? ;)
[Nexus One General] bombaw8:
so you actually got it to ring for longer than 10 seconds at one time?

i am pretty sure this is not an android/OS related issue. it doesn't work for either sipdroid or csipsimple. i even tried forwarding calls directly to my regular cell phone number (via call group). my cell only rang for 5 seconds (after a 5 seconds delay) before hanging up. this looks to be a bug with PBXES but of course i can't report the bug or even ask them a question without being a paid member...

on another note, FRING actually works very well for outgoing sip calls via this setup. even the speaker phone works! however for the life of me i couldn't make FRING ring on incoming sip calls (PBXES call monitor shows "congestion" for some reason) must be compatibility between FRING and PBXES

sigh... they sure don't make it easy, do they? :mad:
[Nexus One General] guisar:
Another option

While I am running gingerbread I've found the voice quality with integrated SIP and sipgate to be marginal. csipsimple is better but I have "failed to create transport media 12003" errors on a regular basis. So, I happened to have fring running one day and noticed that it, registered again to sipgate, rang much quicker than integrated or csipsimple and the voice quality was fine- not great, has a metallic edge, but works fine both with gv integration and gv callback over 3G and 4G.

Fring also sometimes works behind a firewall when the others don't as it uses a proprietary protocol to communicate with it's servers (not 5060). There's no dialer integration and I haven't figured out how to make sip->sip calls but bluetooth does work and you can direct call gtalk users.

Just another option. Interested if anyone else is using SIP this way and their experience.
[Nexus One General] cesierra:
I've been trying out integrated gingerbread sip client, and I am impressed with the voice quality so far. Bluetooth works finally. Only downside is battery life.
[Nexus One General] disgustip8ted:
fring hurts my soul visually, used to use it, but couldnt stand it. i used to use fring for incoming ringback calls with gizmo but the sound quality was waaay too choppy, even when there was no other usage of my internet connection occurring

my ringer i use isnt 10 seconds long, it just plays the sound once, not a length of time.

setting up pbxes or a sip connection is pretty simple if you go through the instructions step by step and on the phone with the gingerbread stuff built in, i love it so much, all tied together with no other apps to do this or that, all just built in to the dialer. i also dont have that much of a problem with my battery either :\
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
What service are you using to log into the integrated Gingerbread sip client?
[Nexus One General] cesierra:
gingerbread sip client is connected as an extension on pbxes.org
[Nexus One General] jonesy420:
help

are you using the pbxes/gtalk setup? i couldnt get that to work with the gingerbread client. registration would always fail. finally got it working with sipdroid. would like to use the built in client, one less app. can anyone walk me through the process or setting up the gingerbread client to work with pbxes/gtalk method. thanks!
[Nexus One General] cesierra:
I havent tried pbxes/gtalk setup yet. I am using gizmo until the day they shut it down next month.

As for your setup, did you create an extension in pbxes to use with your gingerbread client? Did you create a trunk for gtalk in pbxes?
[Nexus One General] disgustip8ted:
check out post 208 in this thread,, i spit out a few bits of word vomit with directions

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11928433&postcount=208
[Nexus One General] cesierra:
I will use this setup after Gizmo is gone. Thanks again.
[Nexus One General] smachine:
NM it worked, i got messed up on the part where it said to enter info into the phone, when putting in username you dont put < >
[Nexus One General] DJ-VAN:
That was short... the pbxes setup no longer works with free accounts it seems. Replacing sip with gtalk doesn't work.

What other alternatives do I have?

I thought pbxes was down because my phone stopped ringing about 2 days ago. I would get "your call can not be completed as dialed"
[Nexus One General] trevmar:
Same thing happening here... bummer...
[Nexus One General] cesierra:
Can you still create a free account using Sipdroid?
[Nexus One General] trevmar:
I reinstalled SIPDROID from the market onto my Android phone (normally use CSipSimple) and couldn't find any place where it offered to create a free account, although it did let me put in my current PBXes account name and pwd.

Can I create a =GTALK trunk if I sign up for a SOHO account with PBXes?
[Nexus One General] torchedlh:
Yes, that is what I have been doing and it has worked great (using cSipSimple)
[Nexus One General] DJ-VAN:
Actually I fixed my issue a couple of days ago. The gtalk trunk I created following the guide in this thread just stopped working all of a sudden. I tried to fix it but I couldn't. So I downloaded the latest pre release of sipdroid and that automatically created the gtalk trunk for me in pbxes. I had to delete the gtalk trunk from the old pbxes account for this to work though.

I had to reset my password because sipdroid generates some random one and I used that info in csipsimple.

This setup is awesome because you no longer need gvcallback. Also you can create a filter to always have csipsimple make calls from the stock dialer.

The only thing i'm trying to figure out is how to extend the short ring time. Its only 10 seconds...
[Nexus One General] klaberte:
Echo issue progress!

The dev of csipsimple has made a big find regarding the echo problem myself and others described earlier in this thread. Take a look here:

http://bit.ly/iSAHdV

I have been using it with great success after enabling the hack described in the link. Yea csipsimple!
[Nexus One General] ankit.subs:
Final Solution

All,

I wrote a guide on the topic a while back which can be found at the link below:

http://makegadgetswork.blogspot.com/2011/02/google-voice-sip2sip-ikall-free.html

Interestingly, it is the most popular post on my blog.

This forum query is first search result for queries with keyword: gingerbread sip2sip. I figured some people will be landing here looking for answers and might as well find out the working solution with a step by step guide.

Hope this helps some people.

Regards,

Ankit.
[Nexus One General] AndroidMilos:
Here is another easy way to get free calls

I found this info on Howard Forums. Go to the Android Market and buy (3.99) program called "GrooVe IP". What a simple setup! You only need Google voice phone number (make sure that you configure it to forward only to Google Chat). Next, easy as heck, just enter your Google Voice info into the downloaded application (GrooVe IP). DO some final tweeks if you want. Voila. Simple as heck. It is a one time buy of the program of $3.99. You don't need Pbxes, Sipdroid, G voice call back program etc. Just need your Google voice phone number and this program. I installed and it works el perfecto. Of course I only checked it through wifi and tomorrow I will test OTA. You can get the program off market apps or go to their site.

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gvoip
[Nexus One General] disgustip8ted:
I still prefer the built in gingerbread voip client
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I've heard that this doesn't work if you're signed into Gmail on any desktop computer.

Have you tested this?
[Nexus One General] Lucky_Charms:
It works for me even if you are signed into gmail. I just installed it 30 minutes ago and it works way better than Csipsimple or sipdroid. Much easier setup too. I plan on using this for regular calls and skype for my video calls.

My tablet just keeps getting better.

Latest Overcome on T-Mobile
[Nexus One General] AndroidMilos:
Yep, it works like a charm.
[Nexus One General] teh_lorax:
It also doesn't work if you use another device that hooks into Google Chat for calling, like an ObiTalk device...
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Even signed into Google Chat on your computer?

The description of the app says this: "You may also need to sign out of Google Chat or Google Talk in other locations as calls are only routed to one sign-in."

Are you saying this is no longer necessary and it works even when signed into Google Chat on phone AND PC at the same time?
[Nexus One General] Lucky_Charms:
You got it. Just to be sure I did a test by signing into google talk on my laptop and then made a call out of my tab to my cell and it worked.

Latest Overcome on T-Mobile
[Nexus One General] J.L.C.:
Now we just (still) need GV in Canada!
[Nexus One General] snrb Labs:
Should work fine logged into Google Chat on the phone and PC. Earlier versions had that issue. We increased the app priority so incoming calls come to the app even if you're signed in to the Google Talk app, gmail, or Google Chat on a PC.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Wow, I'm guessing you are the dev of the app. Thanks for posting here!

Just wondering: why not take out that part of the app description if it's no longer applicable?
[Nexus One General] snrb Labs:
Yup, I'm one of the devs.

We left it there because the original limitation still exists. Google Voice will only forward calls to one sign in into Google Talk. We've tested against the Google Talk app and against gmail. But different IM clients or some other app logging in to Google Talk may still have the issue. Depending on what priority they use when they sign in to Google Talk. Felt it was better to warn people of the chance no matter how slim it was. Hence the "may have to" part.

Looking at it again though we should probably reword the warning more accurately.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Ah I see.

So what you're saying is, signed into Google Talk on both PC and phone simultaneously = totally fine.

But using a 3rd party app like Pidgin or something might break it.

Is that correct?
[Nexus One General] snrb Labs:
Basically yes. Though I know Pidgin works too since I use Pidgin.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Thanks to your comments here I decided to purchase the app.

I've been using it the past few days and it works amazingly well.

Thanks for being a member of the XDA community!

One question: is there any way to conference a 3rd person into the call using Groove IP? If not, do the current APIs allow this feature to be implemented into an app?
[Nexus One General] Big_O:
Thanks for a great app! A question for the dev. A friend said the caller ID showed Duncan Muneca or something? Is there a way to change this or where is the caller ID coming from?
[Nexus One General] klaberte:
better than sip?

Paul, in saying you think it works "amazing well", does this mean that the voice quality of grooveip is better than the original SIP/csipsimple guide in your first post to this thread? If this new app is better, can you (or more appropriately, the dev) explain why? I am just curious.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
It's extremely easy to setup and use, and it works flawlessly out of the box. Don't have to deal with callback apps, ports, sip providers, etc. Just select the account and go.

The only issue I saw was that when I had my Bluetooth turned on and paired, all sound died. I couldn't hear the other side at all. I guess it doesn't work with Bluetooth headsets? (I was using a Motorola S305)

I can't tell about call quality (since I can't hear myself or call myself) but I made a few calls over Wi-Fi and no one said anything, so I assume call quality was fine. However, I called someone over 4G and they said I sounded robotic.

The thing that amazes me is A) Why Groove IP was able to do this before Google? And B) Why no one else has done it besides them? This could completely revolutionize the mobile industry!

And also, there is no iOS app that does this either, correct?
[Nexus One General] disgustip8ted:
any sip providers ive used outside of gtalk and the built in sip stack in gingerbread have been laggy, and choppy can verify its not my internet connection, at least up to my provider's hop on a trace). setting up gtalk on pbxes and setting it up in the sip settings under the call menu sounds just like talking on the computer on gtalk. ive tested this left and right with many different apps and sip providers testing with my g/f's phone and my call in voice recorder test system for work. essentially google has done it already when they bought gizmo, just put the pieces into place. groove just doesnt float my boat, the first time i opened it it crashed :\

oh also, bluetooth works fine with the built in sip and you dont have to use gv callback if you dont want, i just use it so my google voice number is displayed to the party im calling

I also tested making a threeway call with the sip dialer, it looks like it tried to make the call but then it ended all calls. im going to have to grab the logs to see why... not sure if its a limitation of the sip calling or something with pbxes or google voice
[Nexus One General] snrb Labs:
Hi, sorry for the slow reply, wasn't monitoring this thread. If you don't have a Google Voice phone number then when you make an outgoing call the caller ID Google Voice uses is some number that starts with 760 (I think). If you sign up for a Google Voice number that will be what shows up in the caller ID. Just make sure you complete the sign up e.g. having Google call you and enter the verification code.
[Nexus One General] snrb Labs:
Thanks for purchasing :)

Right now we don't support conference calls. We haven't really looked into it yet so can't comment on whether it's possible or not. It is something we plan on looking into.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Awesome, that is great to hear!
[Nexus One General] VerizonKoolaid:
groove is likely constrained by google's xmpp implementation.

are trace and rtp path the same?

you are convinced there are no issues enjoying mobile NAT? why?

and then there's sip oranges and jingle apples
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
I just tested this with the old hacked version of sipdroid, and here is what I found.

If I answer as soon as sipdroid starts to ring, that is the only ring I get.

If I wait a moment, I get the second ringer for my actual mobile number. If I answer sipdroid, both ringers do cease, and i can have a nice voip conversation. If I hit the back button, sipdroid shuts up and I can answer the default phone app for a standard voice conversation.

This help?
[Nexus One General] smachine:
sweet, thats exactly what i wanted to know.
[Nexus One General] bmk789:
I feel this would work perfectly if another app could disable GV forwarding to the cell number when sipdroid is connected (on wifi), and reenable it when it disconnects (Edge). That way there couldn't be any issues with both ringing and you couldn't have any extra missed calls show up in the calls log.
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
That would be pretty sweet indeed.
[Nexus One General] jimbobalu:
Phone Number

I have a question, what phone number do I give to people and what number do they see when I call from this setup?

Thanks
[Nexus One General] krohnjw:
Have them call your GV number - your GV number is also what you see on outgoing calls.
[Nexus One General] J.L.C.:
I hope they launch GV in Canada some time soon :(

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[Nexus One General] [IO]ERROR:
Anyone else have their Gizmo5 account vanish? I got Gizmo5 account from buildfruitkit and changed all the emails and passwords. Everything worked fine yesterday but today sipdriod wasn't working so I tried to log into Gizmo5 and my username and password don't work and neither does the password recovery system.
[Nexus One General] crachel:
Tasker + Locale Google Voice Set Plug
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
Awesome! Thanks for this link!
[Nexus One General] teh_lorax:
Uhhh, can you explain the advantage of that complex 64 step process? The 7 step process of OP seems to be MUCH easier.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I'm not sure what happened either. One of my accounts can no longer connect (sits on "registering"), but I can still log into the website. And the one I set up on Friday can't connect (says authentication failure), but can't log in to the website. The account disappeared... What the heck
[Nexus One General] smachine:
Mine is still going strong, never had a registering issue. I had my account for a few years now. Did you recently purchase your account on ebay? Maybe seller oversold the same account.

* also im still using the market version of sipdroid, didnt switch to the hacked version yet.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I purchased the first one a few weeks ago, and the second one this past Friday. I changed the email and password on both. But the "forgot my password" feature on the site acts like the second account doesn't even exist.
[Nexus One General] :
Hopefully this means movement on the backend of GVoice/gizmo5 integration.

:D
[Nexus One General] smachine:
You should try sending gizmo5 an email. See what the issue is with your account.
[Nexus One General] krohnjw:
Same here......anyone else seeing this?

I submitted a ticket - we'll see.

Edit:

Got an update from the seller (buildfruitkit) stating Google may be deleting accounts. He gave me a new account to use. He advised not to log in/out too often as this may be triggering the accounts to be deleted.
[Nexus One General] webgrafix:
Hopefully someone could help....

I followed all the steps. Everything is working up until the GV verification.

When I click the "verify" link in GV... my phone rings (Sipdroid)... and when I answer.... I HEAR NOTHING! :(

I try to enter the two digit verify code... doesn't work.

Hoping someone has any idea. It's the last piece to making this awesome hack work!!
[Nexus One General] smachine:
Did you make sure your volume for calls isnt on mute? Also you can open up sipdroid and go to the settings and increase the earpiece gain. If thats the only step you cant get to work, you can try downloading the gizmo5 pc software and verify from there.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Yeah, same here. Well, at least buildfruitkit isn't just out to get our money and run. Seems like an honest person.

[Edit]: I emailed Gizmo5 and they basically just said F-You, F-Off.

Yep, that's it. No details about how this could have happened; no help whatsoever to get this resolved. Basically just "Sucks to be you, Goodbye." What the hell
[Nexus One General] webgrafix:
Stupid Gizmo5 software will not run on a Win7 machine!

I have all my volumes tweaked up. I have all the Sipdroid volume tweaks to their highest.

Like I mentioned... Sipdroid is registering correctly (so all my settings are correct). I try to add the Gizmo number to my Google Voice account... and when I goto verify my Nexus One rings... \via Sipdroid... so I have to "slide up" to answer the call.... but I hear nothing on my handset. I just try entering the two digit code... but nothing happens.

Err... going to give it a break for tonight.

Any other ideas?

Thanks!
[Nexus One General] kamasi36:
Skype is 30 and some change for a year. About the same for a skype number for a year. Not a bad deal, but all the calls are over data and sometimes it doesn't work to well. Other times it works great. Hit or miss....The hacked version works on wifi or 3G. Little more money and less complicated. Plus they have support.
[Nexus One General] Lamar720:
My sipdroid says registration failed 401 unauthorized and the dot is red not green. It was working okay yesterday any ideas?
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
Check and make sure you can still log into your gizmo5 account from your web browser. Some people have had issues with recent accounts disappearing.
[Nexus One General] krohnjw:
I can log into my gizmo account but can no longer register as of last night. It was working fine and now just throws back 401 Unauthorized.
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
Hmm. I had a similar issue after I did a kernel update for some reason. Trying uninstalling and reinstalling the sipdroid app. I think that fixed it for me.
[Nexus One General] krohnjw:
Done already (modified as well as market version) as well as multiple SIP clients - all report 401 unauthorized now.