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[HD7 General] Dun3rider:
SD Frying

I have one thing to say and i know this from a friend that works developing software for Windows Mobile, If you take out the sd card of your phone the phone records it and as soon as you insert the card it will FRY it! (become unreadable) Its miscrosofts way of preventing people trying to duel-boot like on the HD2. what i am not sure about is whether it is already happening or if its coming out in the next update, enjoy:)
[HD7 General] rhory:
Don't know about the States, but here in the UK it is a criminal offence to wilfully damage another's property, my HD7 is bought and paid for, I hope microsoft don't make the mistake of damaging it, if I choose to remove and replace my memory card.
[HD7 General] evolutionqy7:
I kind of get people that ask for Android and i kind of dont:)

Its nice to have a choice. But if you bought a Windows Phone = You bought a windows phone. I certainly dont miss the lag from Android. Only thing i miss is the flash :(
[HD7 General] garrette:
As for me the HD2 which was stolen recently was rooted and running android very nice. the only phone to get thru tmobile usa is the hd7 which im sad to report is on the way. I also have an EVO thru sprint. Tmobile has no other 4.3 inch screen in any phone on the roster.....the HD2running desire HD android is better then the evo.
[HD7 General] sunycheeba416:
WP7 lacks big time with mobile hotspot (wifi tethering), Skype, and a good marketplace. But I need ActiveSync. I definitely want to dual boot Android on my HD7 in case I need features not on WP7. Why are so many trying to oppress freedom to ask a question? Chill out... it's not like it was offensive. This would help me tremendously before I dump WP7 for an iPhone.
[HD7 General] evolutionqy7:
Because its not beneficial at this stage to go backwards in technology back to Android. I feel that if full control of the phone was achieved we could have all the features that Microsoft didnt have time to implement yet. Tbh im not bothered about tethering. At worst case if i needed i could Jailbreak my HD7 and use the USB tethering hack.

The things i want most now is BUGS FIXES,IE9, Multi-tasking and kinect support. Do realise you might be crying that theres none of these features but the other million of windows phones might not even need it or even know it exists :) so chill back. I know its fustrating. But as obvious XDA and patience doesnt go together.

Majority of new XDA users are like a bunch of baby's running around asking for the nipple from the developers.

Stop crying about it. We all knew there was no dual boot or Ubuntu on this phone when we bought it. Its a new platform, and like any new platform it takes time to do stuff.
[HD7 General] R3D X:
Just a suggestion to all devs

would it be possible to downgrade to hd2 ui by flashing one of its official roms? then continue with the same installations such as the radio, MAGLDR, hspl, clockwork, and anroid rom?
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
the meory card is behind the warrenty sticker and if you remove or replce it with another memory card you yourself are in the breach of the warrenty contract so for sure you cant sue MS...

it will not fry your memory card but format it whemory card is wien you hard reset the phone... so all the data on the wiped off.... hens no android boot from the memory card...

edit: this means you dont have a HD7....
[HD7 General] jankajo:
If I would get for testing period WP7 phone, I would definately give it away and take iPhone! Why? Because I need this ActivSync, I don`t want them to control my interferience with phone. This was most dissappointed thing after first steps with HD7. I just need it to be available in Explorer for files exchange and I don`t care what they think about it. That`s why, personally me, I will be waiting for Android on HD7. And I hope it will come. I was byuing communicator but bought limitations...
[HD7 General] rhory:
Warranty doesn't interest me, more hassle than it's worth, what interests me is if someone including MS would attempt to damage something that I owned by remote, believe me they would be facing criminal charges in the UK.
[HD7 General] Mwkhan:
Twice i saw an ad on ebay for HD7 with Android for sale. The seller claimed that Andriod is 100% functional. It was also stated that installation of android was only possible if the memory card was removed from the set
[HD7 General] evolutionqy7:
takes a little juniour member to believe in that sort of thing.

Dont go near it them HD7 that say they have Android on it.

1st. We all know if we will see dual boot on HD7. The place where it will start will be here.

2nd. Dont expect to see it for another 6 months or a year atleast based on the time it took to start development on the HD2. It will be alot longer knowing the fact that NO software (like haret) is available to enable this.

3rd Dont expect to see NAND Android for ages because there is no HSPL available for Windows Phone 7 yet. HD2 is the only one that can flash custom WP7 and Android roms cause it has a HSPL.

4th To get android running of the SD card you will need to implement some sort of system to partition SD card for android so that windows phone wouldnt touch it.

5th I dont expect to see it because all the devs are on the HD2 and with no hardware improvements they dont see the point leaving all the progress made on the HD2 and jump to HD7 to start from scratch
[HD7 General] muon69:
agreed. well said. If you want to mess around with custom roms/dual booting, it would probably be best to sell the HD7 and buy and HD2. They go for about the same price on craigslist in the states.
[HD7 General] detox702:
Really? You're stooping to the level of elitism? Trying to protect your precious forum from 'outsiders'? I normally wouldn't even say anything, because this post was so far back, but I'm getting sick of all the elitism here and on Reddit, among other places.
[HD7 General] dream_kazt:
i saw the same thing but i kind of doubt that its real ... but it could you never know
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
then u can get rich off MS, please buy a HD7 and change the Micro SD card and sue MS....

please buy me a drink if u get any money from MS...
[HD7 General] kadajawi:
I'd like to see Android on the HD7 too... at the moment WP7 is just a bit limited, though I'd still like to have it. Also, a Desire HD is 420 Euro (on contract probably not much cheaper too). A HD7 can be had for 185 Euro on contract (that's including all costs AFAIK). For that sort of money you may get a Wildfire, and the HD7 is an entirely different beast.
[HD7 General] wickedcomputing:
My phone broke not too long ago and I just bought another HD2 instead of the HD7. I would rather see a good phone with the dual core tegra 2 chip get dual boot than the HD7. Why put all that work into something old when we have so much new crap coming out. :rolleyes:
[HD7 General] twaddle:
It's not a crime in any sense of the word. I'm frankly embarrassed to see such claims from someone else in the UK.

The warranty clearly states that Microsoft and the network accept no responsibility for damage which occurs through unauthorised modification. If the update bricked your device the fault would be 100% yours for taking the device from a supported configuration.

I've highlighted the important bit for you as you've clearly got problems grasping this very simple concept - Microsoft have a responsibility to update the device as per their agreement with the service providers. Their warranty clearly states that they are not liable for devices which have been altered out of the anticipated configuration and that you take all/any risks. It's not appropriate to expect them to anticipate such changes. There are a broad range of WP7 devices and the development and testing of that set of ROMs is already complicated enough, why should they (or HTC) waste their time adding further complexity (and risk of a bad ROM release) catering for the <0.01% of customers who tamper with the equipment?

Microsoft haven't limited OEM on card sizes in some mass-conspiracy, the OEMs have selected storage based on price/performance and the capacity they believe users will need. If you ever had any recourse on device capacity it would be with the OEM but even then you're the one who technically agreed that the memory card fitted was sufficient by buying it :) These units weren't even sold as having an SD card slot, there has never been the suggestion that it was user-accessible.
[HD7 General] docextreme1:
It seems like a simple question to me but I see no one has given a simple answer.
[HD7 General] piztol44pete:
Here is my reasoning for Android on HD7, i have the Web2go plan that is no longer available to US T-Mobile customers and if i run Android on my HD2 i can use the internet with full 3G capabilities by just making a few adjustments, but if i buy an android phone (G2,MyTouch 4g) i will have to get an android plan which will cost me $30 a month rather than my $10 a month plan. so i would really like to know if this is going to be possible so i can sell my HD2 and upgrade to the HD7 and enjoy both worlds at a great Price!!
[HD7 General] jr_enver:
Can Someone please answer the question?

looking to perform the same thing with the HTC 7 Pro.

there is no alternative to this device. Anyone who is thinking of sugesting the Desire Z. Dont cos your the type of person i have issue with posting at all.

To be frank sugestion another phone to the person who posted this is just pointless.

Stop answering your own questions. and if you dont know and just want to criticize a persons post, "Dont ANSWER AT ALL"
[HD7 General] grant9908:
Not to be rude....but this post is pointless at this um....point. The HD7 is much better designed phone aesthetically with have screen hard buttons rather than physical buttons that will and usually do break down over time and normal abuse/wear.

Anyway, android is of course being worked on for this phone and when the news comes out, it will be inescapable. all this bickering back and forth is just wasted breath and the posters who are being negative about android being on this phone seem to just be bored and looking to stir up some drama because I've read most of what has been said and I see nothing but personal opinion and personal preference when it comes to their "reasons" behind their feels as to why you should go buy and HD2 or Desire or blah blah blah.

Really.....if you have nothing to add to the conversation that is positive or fact based or possibly news worthy via some sort of leak in the developmental field then go be bored some where else. your posts are simply annoying.

It bothers me that I have to waste my life and time reading through your garbage just to get to any real information. Kind of like this post in and of its self :)
[HD7 General] chrispgibbs81:
Wow, just spent ages reading through this thread, trying to find an answer... As a long time follower of the HTC brand I am currently a very contented user of an HD2 (Currently rooted with CleanDROID NAND ROM v2.03)... I would not even consider changing my handset at this point in time if my other half hadn't, against all advice opted for a Wildfire... Aparently it looks nice...:confused:

But as my contract, with Vodafone, is up for renewal in June I am wondering how this handset compares to the HD2 in performance... An Android facility for the HD7 would certainly lure me to this device for sure...
[HD7 General] KittenPunch:
ok I think the main reason for me wanting a dual OP for a hd7, is the phones hardware. I do own a hd2 and running android on this phone works wonders. but since the hd2 has a major design flaw in the screen, allowing it to break easily. My HD2 has a cracked screen and I can update to a HD7 cheaper than replacing the screen, for the second time :(.

So I'm not sure if an android phone can offer the processing power of the new HD7 with it 1.5 gz dual core processor.

so I guess if you can find a htc driod phone with a comparable hardware guess buy that?!

so for myself I have to ask too, have developer in the short amount of time determined if android can be run on the new HD7. Or, is there a t-mobile android phone that can go toe to toe with the HD7 hardware wise, not OP.

thats a mouth-full lol
[HD7 General] xxxxairwavexxxx1:
ok yea the desire hd might be a good android phone but its not for t-mobile plus im preety sure the developers are gonna come up with Android for the hd7. And idk if anyone is aware THEY DISCONTINUED HTC HD2!!! So thats why people are asking for the hd7 to be android.
[HD7 General] vtikha:
A couple of months ago Riot147 mentioned that he was doing progress on porting android to the HD7. Any updates on that? I hope it will come along soon...
[HD7 General] coldest~~~:
I will get another hd7 and stay with it if android can be ported

Sent from HTC HD2 with Android
[HD7 General] jan123456789012:
Ok guys. In this forum there are few guys who will donate if android is ported on hd 7. Why dont we post a topic in an android forum with our desire and someone may fulfill our request. Like tha idea ;)
[HD7 General] pc2mt:
I absolutely will donate for someone who ported Android on HD7, because Im selling phones and all of my customer always ask for Android on HD7 :)). Now selling HD7 is very slow hope it will have android soon.
[HD7 General] jan123456789012:
If only I knew what to do for porting Android...Are there some guides on the internet for other phones? They'll probably be useful. Is there anyone trying on this ultra hard task?
[HD7 General] hoaza:
i had the HD7 till last week, since 5 days i have the DESIRE HD and i just can say it's much better.

I was tired of waiting for android and an update that came to late and wasn't really an Update.

O'doyle(Android) rules :D
[HD7 General] maff1989:
The solution...

...just suck it up and buy a T-Mobile HTC HD2. Android has already been developed for over a year, and NANDroid has been accomplished since the start of the new year.

The thread can be closed now. :)

EDIT: Forgot to mention.. but WP7 has also been developed for the HD2. Sooo it's 3-in-1. Can't beat that deal!
[HD7 General] pc2mt:
Android on HD7 is a revolution
[HD7 General] R3D X:
No the thread can stay open you idiot. The HD2 is NO LONGER ON SALE!!!
[HD7 General] hasdrubal2:
I'm using HD7 for a while. I've no problem with wp7 it is a nice looking operating system. but on the other hand, it is too early to use it since it needs many updates and applications and it's not yet came to my country.

So, I'm planning to sell it and buy a Desire HD. It will surely cost me extra money. But if a hero come along :) and make android possible on HD7, then I will happily donate some of my non-made loss with him/her.
[HD7 General] AmgAdly:
Why not?

I see a huge debate about instaling Android software on HD7...

OK let us think in a diffrent way. HD7 is a hardware phone that many people may like its look or its options. It may come to you as a present from someone you love.

However, Windows phone 7 and Android are just opperating systems. So, why not to have the option of installing whatever operating system you choose.

why we should be sticked to Hardware manufacturing company that force us to use a specified operating system?

I beleive that any person should have the freedom to choose what operating system they want without being restricted to a special hardware phone.

Sometimes those genius developers find a work arround to make any operating system to work on any hardware. For example, windows phone 7 was giving a reason why they are not to be installed on HD2 (due to the lake of camera hardware button), but it was cooked to work on HD2 by our developers.

Now it is a new challange, dual booting with Android and windows phone 7 is a public demand. So, let us do it...

also HD2 was phased out from HTC production lines. Should we stop and keep looking back trying to buy a used HD2 phone because it offers this dual booting? (NO WAY!)

I will buy HD7 on my own expences and try to work with that. I have no previous experiance with this but I am a programer who have the basics to start, and I am sure I will find help if i ask...
[HD7 General] pfc.mason:
you sir, are my hero.

i started reading this thread and saw nothing short of an all out android vs WP7 fanboy brawl.

the reason we want android is to have choice. imagine buying a pc and only being able to use windows on it. never being able to install linux. or vice versa. hell, if the software on my minivan's engine can be hacked, why can't this phone?
[HD7 General] -WP7User-:
+1 IMHO, it's very important to have choice. Why does everyone say "If you want Android, go buy a Desire HD"? I'm sure people did the same thing on the HD2. Until the first Android Rom for the HD2 came out....That was the time when people did notice that it's very useful to have a dualboot OS on the HD2. And from then on, no one said "Go, buy an Android phone.." 'Cause Android was available for the HD2. So, why can't it be the same case for the HD7? There are enough people out there who would like to have Android on the HD7. And those who don't want to have it don't have to install it! It's as easy as that! The only problem is to get some good devs working on this...
[HD7 General] GoCkillaz:
They don't. All the giant high-end HTC Android phones are chilling with Verizon, Sprint and ATT. Oh and in Europe as well.

If you try and get your DHD to work on T-Mo, you won't be able to get T-Mo's 3G/4G. The radio is not powerful enough.

[same comment]

If you try and get your DHD to work on T-Mo, you won't be able to get T-Mo's 3G/4G. The radio is not powerful enough.

Honestly, if we manage to port Android OS to this device, the HD2's legacy will live on and everyone with an HD2 can make a valuable upgrade. I have an HD2 myself, and I almost bought a DHD. However, the fact that it wouldn't get 3G pissed me off. So it looks like I'm stuck with the HD2.

If you try and get your DHD to work on T-Mo, you won't be able to get T-Mo's 3G/4G. The radio is not powerful enough.

Final Note: See if someone in the HD2 forum could try and get MAGDLR working on HD7. Then you guys would be home free. The bootloaders on HD2/7 shouldn't be that much different.
[HD7 General] trandd2005:
U are hero . My man too . We like android on HD7 . Take a try and see .

I had Iphone 2g + 3g and HTC hd2 and now HD7 . Any device I unlock/Jailbreak . let compare

I had HTC HD2 . I did instead android on it.. It run like a champ. And we love it . But HTC hd7 I thought it's better alot than HD2 . But It was piss me off when I have it. The OS It just look like Iphone 2G . After I unlock/jailbreak .

Zune == Itune. The same idea.

Zune will lock the phone HD7 if U unlock it . Like Itune lock Iphone if U update it .

That's why Microsoft is going down and down because they don't have any new idea . Keep repeat after apple did .

Apple # can not tethering with laptop + 3 apps + flash movies

WP7 # can not tethering with laptop + 3 apps after market + flash movies

Android # tethering + free 3apps + flash .

Which let us have more choice is the best on the market . My Experiment is the best use them all and see . I vote for Android .
[HD7 General] R3D X:
Okay. so the 1st we'll need before anything is possible will be magldr. How would we be able to make it work for hd7?

EDIT: i think we've made our point across now. we need some dev'ing
[HD7 General] rhn:
Anyone tried contacting the dark forces team (DFT) about their progress on hd7 if any?
[HD7 General] R3D X:
contacted but no reply yet.
[HD7 General] petbede:
Yes.

PEACE!!!
[HD7 General] petbede:
Can I ask you something? Bet u will say yes, so i will ask

1> How u know it will be glitchy?

2> Is you how answer the same thing as Why?

3> How long do u mean by long time?

4> Do u write program?

5> Have u ever written any kind of program of any kind?

Thanks.

PEACE!!!
[HD7 General] petbede:
What u mean put a round peg in a square hole?

What will u say about HD2 running Android? (Is that putting a can of juice in a can of beer)?

Well, at least u can still drink from the can

PEACE!!!
[HD7 General] petbede:
Have patient and I grantee u, u will have it someday. Everything is just going through what is call "There Is A Time For Everything"

PEACE!!!
[HD7 General] petbede:
Haven't u heard that HD2 can switch between Android and WP7. And the first thing to install is WP7. So how u going to explain the memory card stuff?

PEACE!!!
[HD7 General] petbede:
Yes

PEACE!!!
[HD7 General] R3D X:
It is possible for windows 7 phone to run magldr. Cotulla has done two new wimo phones go to his twitter page http://twitter.com/CotullaCode

he has done it with the Rhodium http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOGnQ3D5IDk
[HD7 General] samson_420:
Still when this bad ass paper weight gets android I am getting it. . . .

Windows 7 is still a joke
[HD7 General] petbede:
I watched the video on youtube.

Well, as for WP7, it will be available cuz it is possible

PEACE!!!
[HD7 General] Midnight7oker:
WP7 is nice and all, but I REALLY love to customize themes, icons, etc. All you can really do in this OS is change the lock screen wallpaper and re-arrange existing icons :( I really hope to see Android on this phone some time in the near future.
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
if u want to do all those things u should stick to android...
[HD7 General] the1gladiator:
normally i don't weigh in too much, but this is stupid.

1) HD7 has specs BUILT for android from a hardware vantage. More so than my HD2 that is running Gingerbread HTC Sense 2.1 right now

2) a person can wish for whatever they want

3) see point 1

Android dominates the phone market and when MagLDR is made available for HD7 imma "lose" my HD2 and go get an HD7 :) to put android on it :D
[HD7 General] jan123456789012:
Omg PEACE guy how do you know when Android is coming. I think there is noone who is working on it...
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
i will want to see who will come out and put the android on a WP7 device, and if i am not wrong they will get their ass sued in court just like sony did to the GEOHOT...

during the last hacking convention no one touched WP7.... why....

bottom line, MS do not want amdroid on there devices so they shut the door by including the Memory card into the system memory....

ya there will always be ppl who will like something more on there device but at this moment NO ANDROID on WP7 devices....
[HD7 General] petbede:
Someone is working on it. I am 101% sure!!!

PEACE!!!
[HD7 General] Psygnosis84:
Not true, if it were then Microsoft would've sued when Android was bootable via WM6.5 too.
[HD7 General] petbede:
It is our phone we do want we want with it, it is not a house console like the Sony.

MS also allow hacking on the device.

Anyone that is suing or if the person is MS then he have no case cuz:

1> He allowed hacking to the device.

2> It is our day to day activity not home console and it is ours we do what we want (Case Close)

:D;):):cool:

PEACE!!!
[HD7 General] rhn:
Who is working if I may ask ;)
[HD7 General] cmlucht:
stupid question

i keep reading that the hd7 and hd2 have all the same insides as electronics goes except the hd2 has the buttons and no camera button and the hd7 has the cap touch buttons.

couldint you use the same software but a lil modded to flash android to the hd7?

i had a hd2 and my wifes cliq broke so i gave it to her and now i have the hd7, i do like windows phone 7 but i like the android os a lil better and the only reason for that is the apps i like alot of the free apps android has and most of what i would use on the windows phone i would have to pay for.
[HD7 General] cmlucht:
also i think if i get a phone i should be able to do anything i want with it i hate how the company locks everything down and not just talking about windows but apple also, android seems to be more open