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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cantIntoCode:
Sorry for the takjng ages to reply. I see you've already tried reflashing stock JPA? Thats odd that reflashing, wiping cache etc doesn't fix it.

For the timebeing you should use another web browser until someone can find a fix for you. Judging by the lack of comments people probably don't know how to help you.

Sorry....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] h O r n:
Is there a way to format the phone card (not sd card, the one that has the system files) and install a new rom?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cantIntoCode:
Can't you format internal sd from recovery? Can't double check kinda busy atm.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] davidheffernan:
You can format the internal storage in recovery. This should work.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kamirza:
IT will still crash

I have tried a few roms and this browser crashes in all. You can prolong the inevitable by clearing the cache often but will still happen. If formatting helps then please let us know. Its not a rom problem but a froyo thing. Good luck.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tehpriest:
Installed the modded Yahoo Messenger with video before the upgrade but this no longer appears to work with the new JPO. Shame :(
[myTouch 4G General] floepie:
On the Vibrant, there would be multiple icons in its drawer to access the same app, only approaching it so that you land on different tabs. On the MT4G, for instance, the Peep app is entirely missing. It appears you can only access the built-in Twitter app via the widget?

There was also a nice 'quick find' app that you can't access from the drawer. In it, there were multiple entries along the bottom where you could use the same search term in various area of the web, such as Wiki, youtube, google, etc. It reminded me of the Dragon search on the iphone.
[myTouch 4G General] mgymnop:
yes I realized that too and on the other hand plain android 2.2 applications like the genius news widget is missing completely.
[myTouch 4G General] floepie:
The 'Quick find' app appears when you select text within the default web browser. It's very nice!
[myTouch 4G General] lghorn:
There are definitely apps present that are not accessible directly from the drawer in Sense. Install LauncherPro or ADW and you'll notice about 20 additional apps (approximate by a quick scan) in their app drawers. I think these are apps accessible via other apps/functions in Sense so atte hidden in the app drawer. For example, the FM Radio is not available in the Sense app drawer, but is in LP. In Sense it is accessed via Media Room. We should be given the option in Sense on what to display -this is one reason I'm using LP+.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HarpingOn:
I've installed vlingo from Market as it's version 2.0.2, what am I missing by not using the Samsung specific version 1.4 from Samsung apps?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nirvana388:
It's just an older version in the Samsung Apps store. Samsung included it for free before Vlingo made the service free for all users and updated it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HarpingOn:
Great thanks. I was only concerned there was something /extra/ in the Samsung version that wasn't in the market one. Seems not. Cheers!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] DashDaKidd:
It seems that android has come to an end for the HD2. There hasn't been major updates in a long time. Not just NAND but lets say the Light sensor hasn't been fixed in any clean froyo builds or random freezes and crashes. In regards to NAND, there hasn't been much activity going on with porting it. I wonder y? could it be that the project just got too old and boring or is it because windows phone 7? in any case it seems to me that this project is slowly coming to an end and only a few chefs are starting to realize it (shubCRAFT, Hyperdroid) are no longer supported (which is due to personal reasons too) i understand that. Im not angry or venting just confirming it. should I sell my HD@ to get a My touch 4g or a g2? at this point it seems better than waiting for android to work.

I am not trying to anger anyone I just wanted to hear some thoughts.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] infernalshade:
Im using MDJ FroYo Sense Clean and its stable, fast and the battery drainage is really ok, so i dont think "android for hd2 comes to an end", but "android for hd2 becomes nearly perfect". Sure WP7 is here, so xda-chefs are working for first ROM for HD2 :D, but i don't think Android-Development is stopped completely ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
I don't think it will be at an end for years.... but they have done most of the major stuff they can do. I dont think nand is really working as well as they hoped it would... it sounds like it may be slower than sd card. They're still working on it, though. Bugs will continue to be worked on, too.

What more did you expect out of a port? They've done an amazing job. You can't expect it to be as stable and smooth as a native android phone. I always said if you want to use android full-time, you're better off with a native android phone. But what other phone can run winmo and android this well. And its the best winmo phone out there. And there's a possibility of running meego and wp7. Its gonna be my phone of choice for a long time still.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] AllTheWay:
Very well said. I will never sell this phone for the mere fact that I can dual boot and the GPS on this thing is amazing. Way better than my Samsung Captivate.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
Android on the hd2 is already better than I ever expected it to be, so I'm happy. I use winmo when I need the phone to be stable and for certain apps... then when I'm playing around or want to use certain android apps I can boot into android in less than a minute. What more could I want. If they were still developing winmo phones, I'd still buy winmo phones... most new winmo phones eventually run android good enough to use any apps you want to use.

People who say the hd2 runs android better than native android phones always compare it to android phones still running stock roms without tweaks. If you tweak and customize a native android phone, it runs way better than a hd2 ever will... that's why if I wanted android full-time I'd get a native phone.

But I love the many options and possibilities the hd2 offers... and I still like winmo and the way I can customize it. Android runs good enough for me on it.... and you can't run winmo on an android phone.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Roach13:
I fully agree with you. But I'm tired from winmo. I want to feel something new. Something undiscovered for me. Its something like a new car. But I've already bought hd2 and i don't want another phone. I just want android without Linux. I just want a fully based android for my phone.. so, can i get it anywhere?

Sorry for my bad English.

Greetings from Russia :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] infernalshade:
Do you mean NAND (Android without WM-loading)? There isnt a ROM yet, but stay tuned ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Roach13:
One Guy just told me about HTCClays SuperHD2 that he founded xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=768768 and it runs with minimal screenfreezes and a great battery life.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] infernalshade:
Im using MDJ Froyo Sense and i have NO freezes and battery drainage is about 1%/hour ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kankam:
I think it'll be a big mistake to sell your HD2. It is probably be the best and most versatile Windows Mobile device ever built. One device able to run Windows Mobile, Android and very soon Windows Phone 7.

I'm currently been using Mdeejay Evosense 2.3 with hastarin kernel 7.8 and the latest pop wrapper currently being tested. For me android is 99% perfect and I've not had to boot back to Windows mobile in more than 2 weeks. The thing with these android builds is that you've got to try several till you find one which works for you. I tried 7 different builds before finding my current one.

However, we are all different and so you have to decide for yourself. If you feel you can't handle the various issues that are still being worked the, the maybe you should sell your HD2 and get a native android. I personally won't do that.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aaronkt:
oh come on guys. Gingerbread is right around the corner. That will boost interest again. I started with the G1. Interest in it didn't die until i got the HD2. The main reason i got the HD2 is because the G1 couldn't run 2.2 very well. That has been a few months now and I'm sure they got things running well on it. Seriously and they said that the G1 wouldn't run 2.1!! The difference between G1 and HD2 TONS! I honestly dont think there will be anything that android releases that the HD2 wont be able to run.

Granted they have slowed down big time with the releases of android OS but thats a good thing. They were launching stuff so quickly it didn't give the devs time to make stuff rock solid.

I read today that the nexus 1 dev phones will have 2.3 (gingerbread) pushed to them next week! I'm ready bring it on! I know the devs here will tackle it asap.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
I fail to see how it is anywhere near the end of the road. Android as it stands now is more stable for me than WinMo ever was. The only slight detractor is battery life which is still not bad at all, I get 20-22 hours straight out of my battery which is only slightly worse than I get with WinMo (about 26 hours).

The reason there's little in the way of amazing, groundbreaking advances in Android is because there's very little left to do. The latest kernels are fantastic, battery life has improved greatly, reliability is amazing now, there's very little left that doesn't work or breaks. I cannot remember the last time I've had a force close, screen of death or anything else terminal, and I no longer boot into windows at all.

Most of the chefs and devs here have things called "personal lives" that require time, and while there's little left to do they are spending time concentrating on themselves. Give it a few weeks/months until gingerbread comes along and the scene will pick up again. In the mean time feel free to get hold of the tools yourself and see what you can do?

If your Android doesn't work properly when I personally have installed Android on about 8 Hd2's for myself and my friends and they never have any complaints then you should investigate why, not give up and sell your phone. That's half the challenge!
[General Questions and Answers] jinjaar:
Can i install any Windows mobile , Android and linux on my HTC universal Without Active Sync ... my pocket is dead and i cant get connect with my PC cuz my Usb port on my Universal is may be broken... pls help:confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] gtrab:
We are starting to notice some software (apks) differences between the EURO/ASIA D-Zs and the BELL-NAM D-Zs

This thread is aimed to creating a list of such differences (and work in cross-porting some interesting shizz ??)

It would be cool to get both devices running side by side to compare what's included and what's not (differences between EURO/ASIA and BELL-NAM software versions) :D

Some of you lucky guys already got your D-Zs

So I am asking cooperation, if someone could please write down a list of your stock-out-of-the-box included apps, or at least report what's missing / added.

FULL LIST OF APPS / DIFFERENCES

BETWEEN THE Desire Z NAM (Bell) Sense ROM (firmware), GENERIC Sense Desire Z and T-Mobile no-Sense G2​

Thanks to rapster, droidsmith, mahender and all others who contributed

HTC book reader (from Desire HD) is not present on both Desire Z firmware versions

BELL Branded apps included @ NAM version:

Ashphalt

Golf

Uno

Bell PVR (remote PVR)

Cyberon Voice

GPS Navigator

Kobo

Stocks

Tunes & Apps

TV & Radios

Wi-Fi Hotspot

Apps REMOVED by Bell, Present @ EURO/ASIA Desie-Z:

HTC Locations

Car Panel

APPS present on the GENERIC VERSION HTC DESIRE Z (Euro spec, stock HTC sense firmware)

adobe

amazon mp3

calculator

calender

camcorder

camera

car panel

desk clock

facebook

flashlight

fm radio

friend stream

gallery

gmail

googel search

htc hub & htc likes

internet

latitude

locations

maps

market

navigation

news and weather

peep

places

quick office

sound hound

stocks

talk

teeter

transfer data

twitter

voice recorder

voice search

weather

HTC wifi hotspot

youtube

APPS present / abscent from the T-MOBILE G2 VERSION

- No HTC Sense and no HTC Sense widgets (plain Android with some T-mobile apps)

List of stock apps for the USA G2:

Phone

Browser

Messaging

Clock

Calendar

Calculator

Camera

Gallery

Google Car Home

Contacts

Documents To Go Lite

Email

Gmail

Google Goggles

Google Latitude

Maps

Market

Music

My Account (T-mobile)

My Device (T-mobile)

Navigation

News & Weather

Notes

Photobucket

Places

Sound Recorder

Google Talk

Facebook

Twitter

Google Voice

Voice Dialer

Voice Search

Wi-Fi Calling

Google Earth

Google Sky Map

Google Translate

Amazon MP3

My Tracks

Youtube

Google Listen

.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Raspster:
That is correct and confirmed. There seems to be a sync in the locations under settings to sync google with HTC locations. You can activate it but I'm sure it will not do any good. There is also an option in that same menu to re-download the HTC locations..? Tried it but get an error. What we knew as footprints is now called locations. I beleive this is now tied into the HTC location app with the built in maps which is confirmed to be on the EURO/ASIA Desire Z. That is why we don't have the location (footprint) widget. I did not see anything about the book reader on the video so I guess that must only be on the Desire HD..? Here is the link to the video. Fast forward to 6.57 for the demo on locations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUeW6-HTtSU&feature=player_embedded
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] gtrab:
@Rapster: thanks for confirming

It woud be great to have some Euro users feedback though

.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Raspster:
NP, also, not sure how other NAM peeps are doing with their data but as I have been using on AT&T in the USA I can say the data is abit inconsistant. My wife has the iphone and her 3G signal standing right next to the DZ is much stronger. The phone (at least for me) also switchs from "H" HSDPA to "3G" UMTS when data is not running or needed. Driving arounf my town where 3G is very strong (usually 4 to 5 bars on the wife's iPhone) will be anywhere from 2 to 3 bars on the DZ and sometimes switching from 3G or H to EDGE and back again. Maybe the NAM is not properly using the 850 3G band on AT&T's network..? Not sure. Would love to know others experieces also. EURO version and NAM versions. My speed tests have been all across the board also. During the test, it fluxuates.. Jumps real high, then low.. The needle is all over the place. I am pretty sure my APN is set up properly. I can receive and send data and MMS messages just fine. I may just be AT&T crappin out ATM.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Daffa222:
I don't have my Desire Z yet, but just from something I read in the NAM User Manual, it seems that that version of the phone only allows 2 devices to connect to the Desire Z when it's being used as a wireless hotspot. I clearly saw in a video of the standard Desire Z that wireless tethering supported up to 8 connections. Perhaps someone could confirm that this is a difference in the two devices?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] krumsaab:
Bell screws over desire z customers!!!

Hey you guys are right.

Just got a desire z through Bell for my sis and noticed that htc locations doesn't exist. Replacing it is something called GPS Navigator which is a horrible app. Super slow and laggy. Also adding to the disgust is a $10 monthly fee which they expect ppl to pay.:rolleyes:

Hope someone out there reads this and can help get this app back on the phone. Was something worth looking forward to besides the new HTC sense.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] droidsmith:
Hey, thanks for creating this thread!

I was wondering what would be the difference between going with an unlocked unit from bell, and getting a factory unlocked ncix NAM version:

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56666&vpn=Desire%20Z%20Black&manufacture=HTC

I was swayed by the bell pricing, and went ahead and got a bell branded HTC Desire off contract, and am using it on rogers. here are some of the apps I would say are unique to the bell version, but I can't be sure until nicx gets stock.

Cyberon Voice

GPS Navigator

Kobo

Remote PVR

SoundHound

Stocks

Tunes & Apps

TV & Radios

Wi-Fi Hotspot
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] CarlGalgano:
The NAM allows the number of users to be set in the setup of the wireless hotspot app. Can set from 1 to 8.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] gtrab:
thanks

will update post 1

PS: seems like not so many euro mates are getting into this thread, I'd like to hear some comments from them too
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] cmstlist:
The NCIX link is not a NAM version. It's the Euro version unlocked. You were better off getting it from Bell :P

Never assume these things...
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] mahender:
hi everyone

im kinda new to android so bare with me. this is what my phone has in its app list. if you would like me to check anything else please let me know.

my UK desire z has

adobe,

amazon mp3 ???

calculator,

calender,

camcorder

camera

car panel

desk clock

facebook

flashlight

fm radio

friend stream

gallery

gmail

googel search

htc hub and htc likes

internet

latitude

locations

maps

market

navigation

news and weather

peep

places

quick office

sound hound

stocks

talk ??

teeter

transfer data

twitter

voice recorder

voice search

weather

wifi hotspot

and you tube.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] gtrab:
thanks for the contrib mahender...

updating post 1

@steviewevie, cmstlist, droidsmith

please keep this thread on topic

;)
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] blunted09:
i cant believe they remove htc locations and add some paid crap. im soo happy im not with bell
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] CWolfCW:
Yeah... 'cept a lot of people forget that HTC Locations, you have to pay for navigation.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] David Dee:
Very good point. I finally got Locations on my Bell NAM version and was quite disappointed after all the hype. Unless one is roaming regularly, I would suggest Google Navigation for free.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] whistlerGreg:
Hey, how did you end up getting locations installed on your desire-z? I just got mine and i'm pissed bell removed the app. Also, i'm experiencing the odd reception issue, every now and then i go from full bars to zero for no reason.

Cheers,

Greg.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] gtrab:
you can debrand your phone

check the "easy tutorial" thread
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] steviewevie:
Anyone fancy adding a list of the standard apps included with the stock G2 ROM ?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] gtrab:
That would be cool, I'd like to know the extent of the T mobile customizations

Sent from my Godspeed 1.4GHz Android HTC DZ
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] nmx:
Hi there,

I´ve just got the htc desire z with stock rom (europe) and besides all stuff mentioned in the startpost I've got the following stuff between my apps as well :

blocked callers

calculator

call history

clock

connected media

learn more

mail

messages

music

people

phone

search anywere

search people

settings

setup

sim toolkit

video's

some could be logical and not mentioned (people for instance) but it wasn't listed in the start post so I've just added them.

I got rid of the stupid stocks and amazon mp3 stuff which is worthless IMO ;)

after being a loyal ppc/wm fan I must say that I absolutely have no regrets hoppin over to andriod :)
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] gtrab:
welcome to android and thanks for contributing

(most of the listed apps are from the android system itself)

Can any G2 user please help to complete the list ??
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] boricuaboy2005pr:
where can i find the locations app
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Tcrumzz:
Contents of my G2

when i first got my G2 (USA) this is what it came with:

Phone

Browser

Messaging

Clock

Calendar

Calculator

Camera

Gallery

Google Car Home

Contacts

Documents To Go Lite

Email

Gmail

Google Goggles

Google Latitude

Maps

Market

Music

My Account (T-mobile)

My Device (T-mobile)

Navigation

News & Weather

Notes

Photobucket

Places

Sound Recorder

Google Talk

Facebook

Twitter

Google Voice

Voice Dialer

Voice Search

Wi-Fi Calling

Google Earth

Google Sky Map

Google Translate

Amazon MP3

My Tracks

Youtube

Google Listen

Yes lol all of these came stock with my phone
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] gtrab:
thanks tcrumzz

will update OP
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Full Intensity:
does anyone know if there is a way to get fm radio on a g2?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] insink71:
One Difference I had

Maybe I am getting too old and don't remember well, but I swear that my G2 came with an abbreviated QuickOffice as opposed to the Documents To Go Lite... I bought it way back in October 2010 though. I remember I was pissed when I wiped it / switched to a new rom; so, I had to buy the full version... then I realized DTG is more popular; so, I bought a key for it as well. But originally, I do remember having some kind of abbreviated license for QuickOffice. --Tmobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] insink71:
FM Tuner Apps

Cyanogen, MIUI or Virtuous all have FM tuner access apps (Cyanogen's is made by MIUI). I prefer the Sense Rom (Virtuous) if you are going for FM radio only (and maybe prettiness - great widgets)... seem to work smoother. Cyanogen though is always a feature-rich non-sense ROM and my standby.

If you have unlimited web access... Tune-In is a great app that streams over the net (doesn't use built-in fm tuner).
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] roguly:
so, this may be answered somewhere else. but i couldnt really find a straight answer. i have bionix fusion flashed right now, so if i want to flash another rom, can i just flash it with bionix still installed? or should i reflash to stock then flash a new rom? sorry if this was confusing, just trying to get straight answer.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalfan78:
You can do either, most customs roms do a wipe for you automatically so it's like a fresh install. Just remember to disable any lag fix you have running
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithsburtondwight:
No. you must start from fresh (stock). Odin back to JFD then root then install the rom. If you have voodoo installed, always disable it before you flash anything.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalfan78:
I have flashed many times over custom roms, you don't need to go to stock unless you are going from a 2.2 to a 2.1 rom
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithsburtondwight:
but to avoid future errors it's always a good habit to start from stock, especially if you're from bionix for instance and would like to install froyo. That huge modification requires a start from stock in order to avoid future errors. if it's minimal flashing then you can just flash without going to stock.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalfan78:
I would agree with that
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djquick:
That's not true. You can do a straight flash over another rom. However, after you flash 4 or 5 roms over and over, it is good on occasion to flash to stock rom. I must have flashed every single Sombionix and Eugene rom available and only flashed to stock before flashing one of their roms once or twice.

Honestly if you flash to stock rom everytime, then flash a custom rom, you're really doing extra work for nothing as a few posts up had stated " most custom roms wipe everything anyways"; so just flashing back to stock, then flashing a custom rom is kinda pointless.