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[General Accessories] moonlitex:
yeah the randomness pisses me off too, but please bear in mind that the guy hasn't had much time to develop it.

he said he's gonna develop it further in the following days.

i'm taking for granted that the new software that pops up in the following days should be considered something like pre-pre-pre-alpha software and those who publish just want to show off their work as soon as possible. and i like that.

but for those that can´t guess themselves into that conclusion, there should be lots of big and visible warnings at least in the app market.

'cause .. well, you know. if you just randomly install software from the market you expect it to work. you expect it to have gone through some kind of filter. but i guess it doesn´t. it pisses me off that there's so much broken software in the market. but not in this case (the gmail liveview app).
[General Accessories] robroy90:
My experiences

I just wanted to add I live in the States, and I bought mine from Expansys.

I am using mine right now with an HTC Evo on Sprint. I also have a Nexus One (on AT&T) and a Dell Streak available to test it with. I am using it right now with the Evo because that has become my "daily driver" so to speak.

I was able to get it paired, and it seems to work ok I guess, but I have some issues:

1. Can you get true alerts on it? I mean a text message that shows upon receipt?

2. The wristband design is terrible. You have to remove it & the pin to charge??

3. App support (so far) is horribly lacking.

4. How does the calendar work? I can't get it to display anything but an X!

5. Date format is backwards (Sorry Euros). Can't find a format adjustment.

I really hope this improves. I want to like it, I think it has promise.

-Rob
[General Accessories] Orka82:
1. Nope.

2. Just pop out the LV-unit from the frame. Insert your finger nail in the seam between the device and the clip frame on one side of the device and pull.

3. Yes.

4. It does not work.

5. You cant change the format...
[General Accessories] lukacs.attila:
Also I think it's a battery drainer. So I just disabled it.

BTW there's a HTC Music Player plugin, which works with HTC's player (I mean the Sense one). Nice :)
[General Accessories] bigprengel:
Does it work with other players? Or just with the sense player?
[General Accessories] punshkin:
i've tried it with the stock android music player from the mt3g rom port on my g1 (the built in lv-music-control doesnt work) and it crashed the control app on my phone
[General Accessories] punshkin:
there is now a where am i plugin.

it (is to) show(s) the maps view of your surroundings and allows zooming. its free. doesnt work for me, g1

check it out and tell me if it works for you
[General Accessories] bigprengel:
There is also a weather plugin. I'm checking it out in a few minutes

EDIT: The weather plugin is working but you cannot make any preferances. For instance i duno when it updates the information.

EDIT2: Thw "where am i" plugin works too but not flawlessly. But i'm satisfied for now.

P.S. I've got a galaxy s
[General Accessories] punshkin:
i got them to work fine on my G1, too

one has to have gps enabled all the time for this but then it is awesome

btw the gmail plugin got updated and now correctly shows the whole mail immideately

i

i am suprised how little people are talking about live view on the boards. i' ve expected massive discussions and rooting attempts
[General Accessories] N23:
New GMail App works like a charm! Perfekt!

Now only the Bluetooth connection and the LiveView/Ware Apps have to get stable :cool:
[General Accessories] punshkin:
i totally agree.

do you know if it is possible to show the gmail plugin on the homescreen? i am tired of going to the plugins tile and then to the gmail tile. i want it in the home-tiles. is that possible?
[General Accessories] Aweb:
No connectivity or crashing issues here (with a Galaxy S), but the music controls don't work at all, which is really frustrating...

I already regret buying this device.

EDIT : Gmail and weather work flawlessly, Where am I bugs a bit and the Htc music control doesn't works at all.
[General Accessories] N23:
currently not, it always resists in the plugin folder...restriction by sony.

but the mail messages are also in the all events tab - so you don't need to open the gmail tab ;)

btw. works very nice with the desire hd (except the liveview/ware software :rolleyes: )
[General Accessories] GregorVe:
LiveView freezes the Galaxy S

Here the same problem like already posted:

After some time a bluetooth process seems to loop.

top:

User 95%, System 1%, IOW 0%, IRQ 0%

User 381 + Nice 2 + Sys 5 + Idle 13 + IOW 0 + IRQ 0 + SIRQ 0 = 401

PID CPU% S #THR VSS RSS PCY UID Name

2941 94% S 11 20820K 1984K fg bluetoot /system/bin/btld

This happens independent from any LV-plugins installed and independent from a BT-headset connected or not.

I have Andriod 2.2 (official JPO) - never have seen such behavior before on my SGS.

Opened Ticket: 88973561 with SE
[General Accessories] stridger:
You won't get much out of Sony on this one as it's not their fault. The Broadcom bluetooth stack (btld is a part thereof) has been known to be buggy for a while (it's used on HTC Sense ROMs, the Samsung ROMs and some other). The same problem occurs with OpenWatch, and has nothing to do with Sony's implementation. If you switch to Cyanogen you will not have the problem, since they use a sane stack. HTC/Samsung just need to finally fix the bugs on their phones...
[General Accessories] Orka82:
I had the same problems with Cyanogen..
[General Accessories] stridger:
Oh, btw, for anyone wishing to reproduce the freezing issue: Just connect the LiveView to the phone and then go to a Task killer of your choice and kill the LiveView application. Your phone will freeze and you need to forcefully kill btld and bluetoothd, to be able to use it again. This can be done for example via

adb shell killall -9 btld bluetoothd
[General Accessories] stridger:
Not sure about the Galaxy S implementation, but for HTC phones there isn't even a btld to freeze in Cyanogen, so the issue cannot be the same. My guess is that they use the same stack for the Galaxy S...
[General Accessories] Orka82:
Same problem as i had with Desire Sense-roms. :)

Not freezing but really unstable connection. What freezed now and then was the LV-unit itself. ;)
[General Accessories] stridger:
That's different then... I'm not saying that there aren't other problems. But the btld freezing problem is not an SE problem, it's a Broadcom stack problem.
[General Accessories] Orka82:
Yes. I misunderstood what you was talking about.. :)
[General Accessories] GregorVe:
Cyanogen seems not to be available right now for the SGS.

Any other mod working with the sane stack ?

Thanks,

Gregor
[General Accessories] stridger:
I think they're working on it:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=803103

Don't know about other ROMs, as I don't own a SGS...
[General Accessories] Sjaakbanaan:
Some initial findings:

The Calendar app works fine, but only with alerts. So if you set an alert, it will be sent to the LiveView and after it's been sent there, you can view it until you reset the notification cache. You cannot browse the entire calendar from it.

Some feedback for the GMail app developer: The new version of the app works quite OK on my Milestone (previous one wouldn't even start :P), but I found some small issues:

- Every mail notification seems to be received twice on the LiveView (Android GMail app notifications are turned off on my phone, so only GMail LiveView app notifications are enabled)

- There seems to be a lot of spacing (empty lines) in the mail, but that may be due to mail formatting issues

- Trying to view a mail containing Chinese characters on the LiveView (either in the GMail plugin or in the 'All events') causes it to spontaneously reboot, after a few times it got stuck on the Sony Ericsson logo screen and stopped responding (except to a x-second press to reset it)

Edit: the problem that occurred with the Chinese character mail also occurred with a mail that was plain text formatted and addressed to me by BCC (I was not in the "to" or "CC" list). Hope this helps!

Edit 2: gray items already fixed in GMail app and/or LiveView update, wow!!

To me, it's already usable though, thanks a lot! :cool:

Obviously LiveView has some issues, but the concept is nice and it's a fun toy to play around with. Most problems can probably be solved by a software fix, but I would have preferred the USB port to be on the side. Not because it's a problem to take it out of the frame, but because I'm not sure how long the frame will last if I keep connecting/disconnecting it every 2 days.
[General Accessories] bigprengel:
There is a update for the liveview app
[General Accessories] Orka82:
Does not solve the connection problems..

I think we will need a firmware update too.
[General Accessories] punshkin:
has someone found a changelog/found out someof the changes the update brought us?
[General Accessories] Golgo:
^^ SE doesn't know what a changelog is.

Seems to me the only sensible thing to do is to:

- put the Liveview in a drawer

- forget about it

- find it in about 3 months time

- try it out again and be either:

a. disappointed to find nothing has changed and its still a useless piece of cr*p

b. SE has somehow miraculously shaped up and actually fixed at least the most pressing issues rendering it usable!

See you in February! :P
[General Accessories] GregorVe:
New LiveView Application (1.0.A.0.11) still hangs with SGS

There seem to be changes around Bluetooth (e.g. new pairing reqiured after uodate), but there are still freezes. The Update itself freezes the SGS probably because the old process is stopped (it was mentioned here earlier).

At least the SGS no longer is totally frozen - with a lot patience it can be shut down normal.
[General Accessories] Sjaakbanaan:
The new version of the GMail plugin seems to be downloading ALL of my old mails to my watch now.. (since they are all in the 'Inbox' label I guess), causing my watch to reboot several times in the process (in fact, it froze during one of the reboots, but a long-press reset fixed that). I'd prefer to only receive notifications of new mails, but there does not seem to be an option for that. Maybe I could make some kind of archive label and move my old mail there, but hopefully that won't be necessary.

Anyway, it's a great plugin which is getting many updates, so I have faith that this will be resolved too :) Please don't take the above as criticism, it's simply a description of a problem I'm encountering.
[General Accessories] ox_eye:
In my opinion it is 100% clear that the connection issues comes from LiveView itself and not from our mobiles.

If you have a look at several forums you read the same thing: "Connection lost very often" And it doesnt matter which kind of mobile you have. Samsung, HTC, Sony ... all have the same problems.

Shame on you Sony!! I wonder if you made a quality test for the LiveView.

I think the only thing we can do is to wait for a new firmware. But who knows if Sony is working on this problem.

By the way, if you plug in the LiveView to a PC and push the right button for 5 seconds, LiveView switch to DFU modus. But there are no drivers available and there is a message "unknown device".

Maybe one of the users find a way to manipulate the firmware?
[General Accessories] stridger:
We need to differentiate between different issues here. There is a "connection drop" issue, which just drops the connection but the phone continues to function and can reestablish the connection, which is most likely a firmware/liveview issue, as you say.

The other issue is the bluetooth stack issue (btld freeze), which is a Broadcom stack problem and can only be fixed with a custom ROM (using bluez) or a bugfix from the phone manufacturer (HTC failed to release one since the original Desire release!).
[General Accessories] Neaw:
Install Update_Service_Setup-2.10.11.10 and I detected the LiveView.

Just install "Update Service" from http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/supp...10?cc=gb&lc=en
[General Accessories] Orka82:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9325010&postcount=45

;)
[General Accessories] booyou:
Well, I gues I am the first one for this issue:

Liveview device wont start.

I've had the liveview 1 day and was able to use it, with the bluetooth disconnect/reconnect everyone is experiencing.

So at the end of the day the liveview device would not turn on. I guesed the battery was dead so I put it in the charger.

Now it is only showing a red light, after charging for a few hours. No green light and I cant start the device. Funny thing is the red lights keeps on after removing the charging cable from it.

The resetting does not work (press for 15 seconds) and also connecting it via usb to my computer does not make a difference. Cant find a hard reset button anywhere.

Contacted my supplier for a new device, but maybe after all these issues I should just ask for a refund...
[General Accessories] Orka82:
The same thing happened to me too but my led turned green when full. Got a refund...
[General Accessories] booyou:
Maybe its also wise to register our problems on

http://talk.sonyericsson.com/community/support/accessories?view=discussions&start=0

(SonyEricsson support forums)

More chance a sony rep will read them?
[General Accessories] Neaw:
LiveView Sony Ericsson (Battery)

I end the LiveView is already in the service of Sony Ericsson.

I've worn that is not normal that the battery lasts me 5 hours just to be not using synchronized, because if I start to give him use the battery down faster.

(In the box set play 96h up to 336h)

So I have not seen normal battery behavior.
[General Accessories] ozym:
Issues with LiveView

This is a great idea poorly executed.

I am hoping that it can nearly all be fixed with software and firmware updates though.

I have an unlocked, unbranded HTC Desire running Froyo stock ROM.

I've had my LiveView for a few hours and here's what I have found.

Pairing was instant and no problems.

LV connects/re-connects when rebooted or goes out of range without problems.

All functionality seems to work fine except for the HTC Music Player.

The media controls in the LiveViewer do not work with the HTC Music Player except for the volume. However, help is at hand.

There are two plugins in the Android Market that can get things working.

The first is an HTC Music Player plugin which will allow you to control tracks and volume, but that's it.

The second is way cooler, it is a plugin for PowerAMP but it also works with HTC Music Player and has the added bonus that it displays track information on the screen of the LiveView.

I have had two instances of my Desire locking-up or going really slow.

Both times it was immediately after having installed a new plug-in.

Having Bluetooth switched on all the time on my Desire is a battery drain (about 20%).

I have also installed the weather plug-in which works great and the Gmail plug-in which does not work at all; i.e. I get not notifications when a new Gmail arrives.

The Facebook notifications work fine.

The Twitter notifications also work but I wish they wouldn't because it tries to send your whole Twitter Feed to the LiveView rather than just DMs and Mentions/Replies. (Idiotic).

The main problem is with the underlying architecture, i.e. the way the LiveView app on the phone has to (or rather can't) integrate with the OS and other apps and the way the LV device connects to the phone.

1) I have to have bluetooth on all the time : battery drain

2) I have to have a device paired/connected all the time : battery drain

3) I am already getting twitter and facebook updates via proper twitter and facebook apps but LiveView cannot use these so it has to download them as well : battery drain, waste of 3G data

4) Other than Gmail (which doesn't work for me) there is no email integration

5) Plug-ins are relegated to a sub-folder on the main display which is annoying to navigate to
[General Accessories] ozym:
Further issues

After further testing it would seem that calendar notifications do not work either.
[General Accessories] akinandroid:
Having read this entire thread im a bit disappointed to say the least!

When i first saw this device a few months back i was really excited. It was boyhood sci-fi fantasies coming true, but alas the wait to actually get one in the UK was long. Then it popped up for preorder about a month ago and i whipped out the old credit card.

Im at work now but the wife called to say the little bugger has been delivered (through the snow) to my home.

Ive downloaded all the apps and plugins but now im anticipating getting home and feeling underwhelmed. Damn.

Still, i am sure that now its being realsed, some of you clever folk on here will find a way to address its short comings :)
[General Accessories] mezzyg:
Just got my live view had no problems at all with the connection with my x10 seems fine, maybe it works better with the x10

Only disapointed with the screen, hopefully there will be some good plugins for this as it has potential
[General Accessories] ki7hy:
It works as it should - Droid X

Well, I received my LiveView yesterday and everything is working as it should. I haven't had any connection issues as of yet. The battery seems to be ok but I want to hold off on commenting on that until I can test further.

As for performance and usability. With no native email support, it's one of those "what were they thinking"? That's kind of a bummer. Of course there are ways around this. There is a gmail plugin which works wonderfully but I don't use the gmail app. (I did use it to test the plug-in and it worked just fine) I use K-9 mail. Lame name, and icon but a solid app none the less. So using the open watch API app from the market and the locale plug-in for the watch...I have email from K-9 on my watch via tasker. The issue here is it's just the subject and the "from" field but that's close enough....for now.

As for the fake call plug-in out there, at first I was thinking it was kind of childish and there are several things we could use before we have fake calls on the phone but upon further thought I could see an occasional use for something like this. So we will see. I still think there are other more important items needed to improve the functionality of the unit but it's a start.

As for other notifications, I use TouchDown for my corporate email and have found I am able to again use Tasker to get the top bar notification to display but if there is more than one email it only shows the number of unread TouchDown emails. That's a bummer. I hope we can do more with this later.

Google Talk, I can get that to display again through Tasker using the notification feature.

All systems are go on this thing on the Droid X. No dropped connections so far and the LiveView app doesn't seem to be hanging up my CPU in the least. Battery use is minimal according to SystemPanel.

I am in the US, any questions you might have feel free. My phone is rooted and running Tranquility 3.0 at the moment but I don't think that matters much since the Droid's bootloader and baseband haven't been changed.

I enjoy all the comments and reviews. I hope we see some interesting and useful plug-ins for this thing.

Off to the store to look for a different wrist band for this thing.
[General Accessories] norocel:
on my n1 with miui it's just crashes all rhe time but not the phone but the watch itself,it's really annoying ...especially when i get to plugins it's just freezes up.I really think this is the watch fault and not the phone as it just freezez all the time and disconects.
[General Accessories] jarekt:
With Moto Milestone works strange (froyo beta kernel). Software seems to be laggy and there are those connections issues. Device never connect again itself and the LV lasts only few hours (official 96h is much beyond ridicoulus). After disconnection one have to connect it manually....
[General Accessories] dreamtheater39:
Just ordered my LiveView device :) Will be getting it in a week's time though :-/ Seems a little disappointing to look at the posts above....but i'm a little hopeful :)

I read some places that it isnt possible to update firmware on the device? is that true???
[General Accessories] Calicodesiles:
No, its drivers should be installed when you have Update Service from SE installed on your computer, but there isn't any updates for it yet. May be we'll have some in the next few days. I hope so, as there are many things to correct (bluetooth pairing stability.

In my case, with a HTC Legend using Cyanogen 6.1 RC2, I can't use correctly this device as its Bluetooth link doesn't keep running. Sometimes, even when I try to connect it manually from Liveview application, it doesn't succeed at all.
[General Accessories] MiRaCL:
Got mine on friday and i have to say. So far this is a piece of useless junk.

Using n1 with cm 6.1.

The LV won't stay connected to the phone and suddenly it hangs and i have to reboot it.

I can't get it to update sms's from the phone.

And i also cant get it to autoconnect.

Great idea, poorly executed.
[General Accessories] Killiandros:
Agree with previously expressed sentiments - great concept, borked execution by SonyEricsson.

Ideally, this should have had a higher resolution screen, with a full touch screen allowing for custom gestures to be created. I'm also not sure how viable it would be, but maybe even mimic kinetic watches so that battery charging becomes entirely redundant or at least required less frequently.

Have had the same lockup (once) and disconnection issues that others have posted here. It hasn't been too severe but it's enough to upset the user experience - this should all just work.

Everything seems to be working fine for me except for the plug-ins. SportyPal plug-in disappeared from the LiveView and crashed my phone once, requiring a battery pull (Desire HD). Also, the SportyPal plug-in just prompts me to launch the application on my phone but then does nothing else.

The gMail and "se-first News Alert" plug-ins just result in the LiveView vibrating but displaying a small "x" above the icon. Has this happened to anyone else?

How do I resolve the problems with gMail and SportyPal in particular?
[General Accessories] prashanth1990:
my liveview ain't switching on now! i use desire hd! same problem here it doesn't connect! i put my liveview back in box, after 2days i reopened it n tried to switch it ON, but its isn't switching on! i charged it for almost 4hours now n it shows green light! i even tried to reset n still no use! help....

it has 1 year warranty! i dunno if the warranty works in India! i brought the device from expansys uk!
[General Accessories] akinandroid:
So ive had this for a week now and experienced all of the problems that everyone else has.

The lockup problem is by far the worst, i have to pull the battery out pretty often as the phone is non responsive.

Im pretty sure from my reading elsewhere that its a result of the way the bluetooth stack has been implemented in my Froyo powered SGS.

That said, there seems to be a small improvement when the PIN or pattern lock are disabled. The device often works exactly as advertised for several hours at a time so its very frustrating when it not only stops (reconnection much much better without lock screen enabled) but freezes the whole handset too.

Im really hoping for some firmware or software updates real soon, or like many others i may find myself giving up in the belief that its a good concept poorly executed.

Whatever happened to Sony Ericsson? It was all downhill after the T28i !!!!