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[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
This is a mod between the Galaxy tab kernel and the Gingerbread Nexus S ROM with TV out added. It would be the biggest advance the Epic has seen yet. Dameon87 (Quantum ROM) just got ext4 file system working and if this ROM used that file system it would be unreal. Anyway, this is most likely on hold until the source for the official Froyo ROM kernel releases for comparison. This phone has been out for 4 month and has advanced incredibly fast. Even Cyanogen is working now (besides MMS [I know] and 4G [I think] ).

Patience people. There isn't much anyone can do until Sprint releases the Froyo kernel source.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
I keep hearing all this hype about Cyanogen mod. Why exactly is everybody so exited about this rom. What am I missing? I mean other chefs have basic things like MMS and 4g working a long time ago. Im just trying to understand what will set this rom apart from others? Is it Gingerbread? Whats the big deal? Just curious.
[Epic 4G Android Development] suzook:
Lol....i agree. People are so mesmerized by cm. I tried it...and it is quick, but no tether...no mms....black and white viewfinder using camera....no pandora....do i need to go on? Ill stick with a rom that works. Why downgrade your phone just to run cm? Dosnt mke sense
[Epic 4G Android Development] dnathan13:
CM is made from scratch while most roms are made from the standard epic rom. Because of this CM is very aosp and very fast with features unique to it. The reason they struggle to get some things working is because they build it from scratch to eliminate all excess.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bohiti:
Its not even a beta, cut them some slack. Those are known issues being worked on. Yes, of course most people would rather a fully functional rom over the *current* state of CM on the Epic, but when they get the bugs worked out, and/or Samsung releases Froyo source, it'll be the ROM to have, hands down. You're entitled to your opinion, but when Cyanogenmod becomes stable on any device (dozens now), it is instantly a popular one.
[Epic 4G Android Development] yungdizz:
I agree Bohiti....I just came from an evo myself and cyanogen was definitly at the top, and will be soon... but if we get this tv-out working, its one step closer to making the Epic 4g the nuber 1 phone IMO. Keep up the works devs
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
any updates?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Can't wait for TV out
[Epic 4G Android Development] chaostrodamis:
Is this still in development. Just want to know if im still waiting for this above all others. I know it really pain staking work so im not rushing it. Just curious.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10141185&postcount=190
[Epic 4G Android Development] tmillar07:
Update, please check OP.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
Instead of people having to goto the first page just to read this, here is a quote:

I'm Googling away, I've found this so far...not USB yet, but I'm still looking.

http://androidforums.com/samsung-epic-4g/185718-lets-get-those-pinouts.html

http://pinoutsguide.com/CellularPhones-P-W/samsung_galaxy_headset_pinout.shtml

http://pinoutsguide.com/CellularPhones-P-W/samsung_galaxy_vidout_pinout.shtml

I'll keep randomly updating, hopefully w/ something more useful.

Online w/ Samsung Chat right now, hopefully some tech on here can send it.

I don't know if the i9000 is any help whatsoever, but I found this - http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/6338742-post7.html I was online w/ Samsung tech support then suddenly got booted and I'm getting some popup saying that their servers are too full...hopefully I can get back. Searching for the http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/6338742-post7.html chipset tells me that the Korean Samsung Galaxy U uses the same chipset, so I'm using Avant Browser to convert everything to English and hoping I can find something there.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Reminder. Not the 110...it's

S5PC111 chipset diagram we should be looking for.

Phone is akso listed as SPH-D700ZKASPR
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Those links look like the 3.5 jack pinout. Not microusb. Just a guess though.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I know, I just posted it for the sake of posting it. I've searched around on that site and it didn't show anything for the MicroUSB. I'm still editing my post and searching online while hoping I can reconnect to Samsung tech support.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
That would be some unreal social hacking if you got a rep to give you the Epic Schematic. lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I'm back on w/ tech support...but I also just realized that getting these answers might mean that its going to be MicroUSB to HDMI instead of 3.5mm to RCA :(

So online support said that I'd need to call in and work my way up through the ranks in order to get pinouts for the chipset and/or the MicroUSB port. There is a guy named BitBang3r around here who knows a lot about the pinouts for these phones, I hope he reads these recent posts and chimes in.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tmillar07:
Sure would be a first. It's not even posted on the internet because it isnt a standard micro usb. samsung added 3 or 4 more pins. you can see one on the front of the pin board, and there are ones on the sides. so 3 im sure of, plus the 5 standard, and im thinking the shield is one as well for a total of 9.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
So is the 3.5mm to RCA something you're giving up on? It seems like w/ all the talent around here, and if it's just a coding thing, I would imagine someone should be able to figure this out if you and others worked on it together. I presume you've PM'ed people like Noobnl and other people who have been working on these phones for years?

I've got heartburn and it's time for a movie and to take a break from life.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tmillar07:
Check OP, and then come back later tonight for the first part of the tutorial.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
On the micro usb,

1) standard pinout seems to charge at 500, with data connect, & mount, user selectable.

2) I am not certain if theie is a data resistance jump or short and if so across which pins at what impedance for full charge, but it seems to be moto standard x/4 to 4/5. Anyone checked?

3) car dock micro usb pinout for nav

4) home dock micro usb

5) futre MHL consortium (Mobile HighDef Link) video out through usb micro. it looks like a third party oem for future implimentation dumped some on the market early before software was implemented, as I do not think mhl software is ready yet, but it seems our galaxies epics have the capability for future implementation (4-6 months?)
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
Any updates?

This is by far one of the more interesting developments on the Epic, can't wait to try it out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
USB host and tvout??!?! You are shtting me!! My hero.
[Epic 4G Android Development] J3COMPUTERSERVICES:
Thank you for the updates! cant wait for this!!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] tmillar07:
SO Sorry to everyone, I had a bit of an emergency arise, will post the beginning ASAP! thanks for sticking with me!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jez2cool:
WhO CAN WE TEST THIS??
[Epic 4G Android Development] brickwall99:
So is video out working?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Test what? I don't see an update yet. Am I missing something?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jez2cool:
i dont know.... Are you???
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
You tell me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jez2cool:
i dont see anything just wanting on an update or some info like you!
[Epic 4G Android Development] akijikan:
It will be exciting when this is substantiated.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Should we give up hope on this? Doesnt seem to be much progress.
[Epic 4G Android Development] bitbang3r:
Hey, just saw the thread now (sorry, work's been hectic for the past... well... eternity). Here's what I personally know about the Epic's MicroUSB:

* it has 7 leads on the circuit board. I don't remember the exact gymnastics required to make it work, but it IS possible to shove a viable data signal through 7 wires and transform it with minimal external hardware (inside the connector shell) into valid HDMI. I don't know where the other two pads are on the port itself, but I'll bet they're on the underside of the connector (5 on one side, 2 on the other).

* Somewhere between the the port and the rest of the phone's electronics, there's an electronic crossbar switch that, depending on how it's configured via software, routes the signals from the port's pins to different pins with different signals inside the phone.

* As an extension of the previous point, when the phone is configured to use the USB port for serial, audio, or hdmi, it's not involving USB at all... it's just repurposing the connector and pins so it can get the signals into and out of the phone. In other words, it's not a USB-serial bridge... it's literally connecting a pair of pinx on the USB port to real, honest to god TxD and RxD signals with nonstandard voltage levels (I'm purely guessing 2.7, 3.0, or 3.3v). Likewise, when configured for audio output, it's literally connecting two DAC outputs to two pins.

* I don't remember the chip ID of the switch/crossbar chip, but I'm pretty sure it's not actually a real chip, and is actually just IP licensed by Samsung and incorporated into one of Samsung's own ASICs.

The best place to look for info about how it works is XDA's i9000 forum... they have about a 3-month head start on us, their phone's hardware is VERY similar to ours, and they don't have a neurotic carrier worried about getting sued by Hollywood because somebody watched Sprint's useless SprintTV (does anybody really WATCH it?) in an Unapproved Manner.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
Well hopefully those links I posted on reply #201 become useful then because all I could really find was i9000 stuff.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
Sticking with you tmillar07, bump.
[Epic 4G Android Development] madgadjt:
bump

bump.. ive got some stuff i wanna work on when you have a chance for any kind of update. I have gotten ubuntu up on my epic, and maybe, with some usb magic you have coming, i can get my kinect going on my ubuntu on my epic :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Bump....

Anyone with any skills for this project please contact me. If anyone finds any info post it up please.

Bitbang3r could you please contact me would love to speak to you about a few different projects
[Epic 4G Android Development] burneystarke:
Here is my two cents:

The epic has a low voltage on signals sent from the USB port. So, if you are using a thicker usb cable i know that data will not make it from the phone to another device, only from a device to the phone. Not entirely relevant, i know
[Epic 4G Android Development] KillerFu:
How are things going?!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Poryhack:
Everything's just vapor until tmillar07 decides to reappear and elaborate on what he's said in the first post. He was spouting about revelations two weeks ago and he hasn't been back since; maybe Samsung had him whacked. ;P
[Epic 4G Android Development] daddymikey1975:
there's no code or downloads either on his google code link in the OP :/
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
I don't get it

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G Android Development] compuw22c:
He's saying its vaporware. While I agree we haven't yet seen any code/pics yet, I'd like to think someone wouldn't just 'make it up'. It may be that this project may end at a dead end at some point, but I certainly believe this is a guy truly putting forth real effort trying to get for himself and the community working tv out. It certainly isn't the first thread on the topic, there was a menu object in the original release (granted it did nothing) so it does stand to reason there is some method for this to work.

It may work, it may not, but the point is people are trying/experimenting. And that's the true beauty of xda, results or no.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sndtubes:
We are all frustrated. We are all tired of spending large sums of money for the most deluxe phone on the market that has been crippled by the carriers. This phone SHOULD have TV out.

The frustrating thing about this thread is that the OP put an update on 1/4 stating that he's ready to post the tutorial and software. Then he disappeared. Maybe due to no fault of his own, but it is VERY frustrating.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
I agree. This phone should have working Micro USB to HDMI AND 3.5 mm jack to composite. Sprint and Samsung gimped the TV out on purpose, we all know it. We aren't stupid. There isn't crap we can do about it except for wait. I will say it again, I'd give a 100 bucks to the dev that can get this working.

And where the f&^! is Froyo anyway?

Samsung..you are a little pu$$y B*tch, and Sprint, you can $uck a C0*k too.

There, I said it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Strange Brew:
Lmao! I agree but the thing is, we all knew the phone had no TV out and we all knew of Samsung's horrible customer service and bad reputation of making people who already purchased their product wait for months after a promised release date of a software upgrade. All this was known before we purchased a Samsng product. So we can only blame our selves for what we got stuck with. Everyone always wanting more from a product then it was designed to do. I'm surprized people aren't complaining that the phone doesn't heat up dinner and give you a foot rub at nite. I love my epic with viper rom 4.0.2c RFS and couldn't want more out of it.

Sent from the desert by the most Epic of phones. Love, Peace, and Chicken Grease!
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
Related

Also, tmillar07's profile: "Last Activity: 26th January 2011 08:11 PM" -The man is indeed alive.
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
He is indeed still alive. Although I am sorry to say that he was involved in a serious car accident and won't be back online for a bit longer. I would say give him a week or so. He has expressed great concern in not being able to contribute to this project right now but will be right back at it as soon as possible. I hope you all can understand.

If I hear anything else from him I will inform you all immediatly. Thanks you all.....
[Epic 4G Android Development] daddymikey1975:
Thanks a TON for the update man.. Tell him we're all glad that he's ok and to take his time and get plenty of rest/recovery.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
WHAT in the WORLD! That IS terrible! Jeeze. Prayers for that dude.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
Thank you for the update.

Take your time tmillar07, get well soon.

EDIT: Just realized the oxymoron... I think you know what I'm trying to say.
[Epic 4G Android Development] compuw22c:
+1, Get well soon.

And certainly don't sweat not being able to complete the project. I think most of us long time community members know to be grateful for anything (especially amazing things like tv-out and usb-otg) we get for free, and certainly would not be impatient enough for you to put your recovery on hold simply to make our pocket toys more fun :)

And when we are ready to get back into this project, feel free to use me as a test bed. Not much of a coder but definitely a hardware-mod guy.
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
I think somebody should try and get some work done on this while tmillars recovering...I've read a couple posts from people who seem to be very knowledgeable on the hardware side of this phone, id like to see them team up with some software guys and possibly make the work easier for him when he gets back.

The obvious response is "well why don't you", and I'm gonna say while I don't know dickens about these things, I'm still capable and I'm gonna try and bone up on it in the coming days

Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
[Epic 4G Android Development] tmillar07:
Yes, still alive. Thanks. Will be back soon. Anybody have any donor galaxy s with working tv-out?? Need to log the exact startup of the sensor and tvout server. Pm me, will make it worth your time. Anybody wanna help compile a new kernel? Also working on a recovery that is actually functional? Still going to release details about the usb hack, etc... sorry for laggin
[Epic 4G Android Development] Art2Fly:
No, Thank You for doing work on this project even though you were in an accident. Godspeed, and hope you are doing better.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mdleal:
You could start a paypal account for donations to purchase a Galaxy S phone. Maybe one with a bad esn or cracked screen to make it cheaper.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dwallersv:
I'll donate

Sent from my mind using telepathitalk
[Epic 4G Android Development] neh4pres:
would you be able to port tvout to fascinate when you figure it out? I support what your doing and hope to be able to have tv out someday.. i have a thread in fascinate general trying to get devs on board.. but seems like ppl here are the only ppl willing to take a stab at it.. anyway.. large donations to the peep that gets 3.5 out on my fascinate =) thanks. and hope you heal well man..
[Epic 4G Android Development] mdleal:
Or maybe we can get a DEV from the Galaxy S section to get you what you need.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
EB13 source code out. Tmillar...have you looked at it yet? What do we gotz?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Randy_T:
Greetings,

I was just having a look at some of the EB13 kernel source for the upcoming Bonsai v3 release.

I see that the TV frame buffer is not enabled in the EB13 kernel. Is this required to get TV out working? I'm prepared to start digging around in this code if I can get a little direction as to what has been tried, requirements, etc. Bonsai would love to support the TV out features we all crave.

CONFIG_TV_FB:

Symbol: TV_FB [=n]
Prompt: TV frame buffer driver support.
Defined at drivers/media/video/samsung/tv20/Kconfig:28
Depends on: MEDIA_SUPPORT [=y] && VIDEO_CAPTURE_DRIVERS [=y] && VIDEO
Location:
-> Device Drivers
-> Multimedia support (MEDIA_SUPPORT [=y])
-> Video capture adapters (VIDEO_CAPTURE_DRIVERS [=y])
-> Samsung TV Driver (VIDEO_TV20 [=y])
Selects: FB_CFB_FILLRECT [=y] && FB_CFB_COPYAREA [=y] && FB_CFB_IMAGE

[*] Samsung TV Driver

[*] HDMI CEC driver support.

[*] HDMI HPD driver support.
[ ] TV frame buffer driver support.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
I have a cable (3.5 mm) to test if you need me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] fredknex:
Bonsai4all working with this tvout gig would be phenomenal. Running stock eb13 I'm realizing how much of a difference bonsai makes.

Anything some guy with a phone can do to help out?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ungovernable1977:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/23/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-first-with-mhl-port-for-dual-purpose-usb-or/

I dont know if you guys saw this already... sorry if im late to the party, but...Doesnt look good for any SGS support for HDMI out... standard video would still be pretty cool... but methinks theyre holding out for the SGS2, if they even finish that thing before they launch it....

side note... would any of you go back to using a trackpad/button??? Or is this just to ease conversion for the slower minded iPhone users...? I like my smooth gorilla glass with no hard buttons.. just me... idunno..
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
I understand that HDMI out through microUSB might be out, but if we at least have tvout via 3.5mm jack with a composite wire..that would be something.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11790456&postcount=73

Any more information on this? Thank you.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Eazail70x7:
That's bull crap if true! Wth!? Seriously?? Smh
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
Nevermind. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=11794661&postcount=108

Still, I am curious as to the status of this project.

Hope your recovery is coming along nicely tmillar07!
[Epic 4G Android Development] sndtubes:
I'm a little confused. tmillar made it sound like he had it working and was about to post the info on how to do it right before his accident. So, we should have it working soon, shouldn't we? I, for one, can't understand why it didn't have this feature from the beginning. All of the other GalaxyS phones did.
[Epic 4G Android Development] perrito2000:
So, is this TV-out (3.5 mm) truly going o work some day? It would be verry nice. I hope EB13 source code helps.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lilmexx:
Bump bump...

Is there any development being made with this or anyone really looking into it? This was one feature I was really looking forward to and thought something would be worked out by now.. I would really like to hear if anyone has stepped in and ran with this at all..

Thanks..
[Epic 4G Android Development] compuw22c:
I'm beginning to get that vaporware feeling now...

Any kind of proof that this is in any way possible (even a somewhat garbage image going out to a tv/vectorscope, a logfile, some kind of youtube video) woul be very nice right now. Certainly not expecting it to be finished or anything but I'd love to see some kind of progress on this issue.

Also I should mention I have video waveform/vectorscope and other equipment which may be useful diagnosing "working but buggy" video outputs, and more than willing to help!
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Konane hinted at the fact that some ACS people are working on it. He said that sprint and samsung made tmillar stop once he had 3.5mm partially working...the focus right now is on USB to hdmi (I'm pretty sure that's what he said)...which honestly I'd be more in favor of....

I guess the point is that this thread is more than likely dead, but the work is still being continued...just somewhere else

Fear not...it shall be solved
[Epic 4G Android Development] arashed31:
Uh... why the crap do these **** heads have any say in this? Letters from them would ONLY make me work on this faster.
[Epic 4G Android Development] snowmanwithahat:
lol maybe they'll have it working once the real 2.2 ota hits? lol.... I know, hilarious
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
How would they have made him stop. I don't think they could sue for that. So I woulda told them go screw yourselves I'm enabling a feature that you pricks advertised was suppose to be there from launch. Not only that they prolly couldn't figure out who tmillar is. Tmillar please turnover your progress to someone else. Please....I would love not to have to carry my ps3 upstairs to stream movies too instead of my phone.
[Epic 4G Android Development] thomasskull666:
+1 to the BS of Samsung and Sprint stopping tmillar. That would not, and could not ever happen.
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
That's pretty ignorant...

Everyone must remember that we live in a world where someone has won millions from a lawsuit that involved nothing other than her hurting her back opening a pickle jar...or some lady claiming she didn't know mcdonalds coffee was supposed to be hot...

Don't play dumb. People have succeeded with far less.

A lone developer has no chance going up against a company's legal team when he's been messing with proprietary technology.

Is it BS?

Of course, don't be silly.

But we don't exactly live in a fair world, now do we?
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
What needs to be realized is that it WASN'T advertised for the epic. The technology is in another model, yes, but legally?

There's no ground to stand on. It was disabled for a corporate reason. Any movie production company could sue you, a regular joe-shmoe, for doing nothing other than downloading a torrent of a movie without buying it, if they really wanted to put the effort in.

And if you think that's BS, then I suggest you remember that the next time someone wants to sue a doctor for millions of dollars because medicine isn't a perfect science.

Welcome to the free world

EDIT: plus geographic mapping of IP addresses isn't that hard, given the right amount of resources...hell, google maps gets a pretty good fix from simply having wifi and wireless networks on ;)