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[Epic 4G General] twoeleven99:
Not to throw salt on the wound but the reason people bring up the evo dev community is because if something like this happened over there they'd probably wait patiently for the updated rom whenever it was ready and wouldn't bash noobl (spell check) for not releasing froyo to the community. Just be patient, let the devs have fun playing with it and picking it apart and trust that there will be froyo based roms coming soon. I love this phone more than the evo, think its better overall, but what I've read in these forums lately is just sorry coming from the users. Support the devs because the epic is in DIRE need of some rom development so quit verbally assaulting said developer(s) you're just handicapping the epic dev community which is on crutches already imo.
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
Problem is that what he wrote isn't bull****...
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
I totally agree have some patience people.
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
I agree, but the comparison to the EVO community is not without flaws. People are more patient in the EVO community because they have 40 dozen roms to choose from as is. We have 2 worth mentioning, one of which was released less than a week ago. People are more anxious and news of a new major release hits a lot harder than it would in the EVO forum.
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
Yeah, except 99% of those 40 dozen roms are nearly the same, save for some skinning. As I posted in some other thread here... changing the bootscreen and lockscreen and then doing a tweak or two isn't developing...
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
Yea, but if you go by that rule, how many developed roms do we currently have?
[Epic 4G General] Masterface7:
HA, becuase we have Sooo much else to talk about?
[Epic 4G General] suzook:
agreed, coming from the moto forums...what is up with the sammy users? Very immature and impatient.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
I guess (us) samsung users paid more for their phones than motorola and expect to get the world in return for the higher price.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
This

And (I guess) this
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
You people just need to wait patiently. Root still needs to be established with froyo before it gets released. Or when you flash it you won't have nothing. Sammy also needs to release the source codes for dev to get making some real froyo roms

Sent from my Emotionless Beast of an ACS Epic using the XDA App
[Epic 4G General] shabbypenguin:
froyo is already rooted, as in FROYO not epic 4g 2.2 or heroc 2.2 or evo 2.2. rage-against-the-cage exploit works by exploited adb, on the phoneside. why isnt it patched? because google is the only one allowed to mess with that code, which means the best shot they would have at it is gingerbread.
[Epic 4G General] imwillzillla:
Coming from the Evo forums and not the "Moto" forums it's easily put in this way. You buy an Evo and then hear the marketing of Samsung and sprint for that matter on how great and state of the art the Epic is. You jump ship to Epic and expect (since it's a "better" phone) to have at the very least Froyo on it. So that in itself is annoying.

Now being impatient for that isn't the only issue. The real issue is going on and on about how someone has it and isn't sharing it and then making lame threads poking fun at other people only makes it more annoying. I could care less but to expect people to not be at least annoyed at the things that have gone on isn't really fair.

You are a dev that is to be taken seriously fine, just explain why it isn't being released and call it a day. 99 percent of all these closed threads wouldn't be here if it were handled like how a Myn, Flipz, or Virus would have handled it.

Other side of the coin is I agree we can all be more impatient. Unfortunately we live in a society where we want everything NOW lol. Patience is something we all can use a little bit more of.
[Epic 4G General] *AndroidMaster*:
its buggy as hell and you will loss the right to root...thats why its not released...let the devs do there jobs in fixing it so we can have it..people are crying that they didnt release it...y release if its buggy...so people can cry about how buggy it is...then people will be making threads like help me fix my epic and help me i bricked my epic and etc..so let them do there job and just wait...!!!
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
Loss of root or it being buggy is a ****ty excuse.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
I agree. There are simple ways to bring the phone back to stock to reroot.

And to people saying too many people would start threads about how to fix their phone I say fine. Let them start all the threads they want. That's what were here for people. To help others fix teir phones. We are the tech support the phone companies don't provide.

I can't believe someone would act like its a crime to ask for help in a ppc discussion forum. :(
[Epic 4G General] *AndroidMaster*:
ok and if u mess up your phone and some like odin doesnt work..then what..!!!
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
I find a way to fix it. It's my responsibility, I'm not 10 anymore.

Also, this is why nand backup exists.
[Epic 4G General] shabbypenguin:
here i will repost it since NONE of you can read

again you will not "loss" the ability to root your phone, now as for a personal matter i dont believe it should be released
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
The leak is official meaning you have to return the phone to stock just to flash meaning root will be lost and CWM and the only way to go back to stock us odin. Yes some people know how to use odin to revert back if need be but the masses don't. With CWM being removed means a nandroid us also pointless. If the buggy 2.2 www released these forums would be filled with people asking how to refer back.. Honestly it is best for the devs that do have it in there hands to figure out root and CWM. Then let them fix the bugs before threw public gets it. I know for a fact hero_over is not the only one with the leak. Just be patient

Sent from my Emotionless Beast of an ACS Epic using the XDA App
[Epic 4G General] MysteryEmotionz:
I mean noob not hero_over sorry

Sent from my Emotionless Beast of an ACS Epic using the XDA App
[Epic 4G General] imwillzillla:
You obviously didn't read my post or the gripes that most people have with what's going down. It's not that Froyo isn't getting released as much as Noobl or whatever his name is coming out bragging about having it and posting things like "Not gonna happen, nope i'm not sharing." Alls he had to do is explain why and people wouldn't have been as annoyed. All of this "It's for your own good" is crap because it's just damage control over the fact that one poster acted like a prick. Again, I don't care. And alot of people who were probably going to donate to his work will probably remember how much of a prick he was being and choose not to. He's basically the one turning away donations but whatever. Not my problem

And before you come with the "Oh goodness be patient he doesn't have to release it if he doesn't want to blah blah blah" it's useless. Both sides of the argument have been put out there. And as far as i'm concerned i'm done posting about the worn out issue.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Max_Pain:
hey guys.

have any recommendations for a good music player with crossfading?

I love MixZing but the one thing its missing (for me) is cross fading.

tried MD Music and it's the best at it, but it's still missing a lot of other features. Lithium Player has very nicely integrated cross fading but the UI is not exactly the cleanest.

any suggestions? free or paid, i'm good either way.

thanks:)
[G2 and Desire Z General] ammour444:
Guys I'd like to ask if there any Arabic support for the Desire Z ?

And could I use the Arabizer for Desire (Without Z) to the Desire Z ?

And is that mandatory to root the Froyo 2.2 to Arabize it ? and if yes how can I do it ? I'm sooo new to Android and I really need help :(

NB: I'm looking for the Arabic support only not to Arabize the menu and the programs names... thank you guys :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I once read that it's possible to download any locale from Marketplace, but I don't know any more details.

Sent from Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z General] AMoosa:
There is an app on the Market which lets you write Arabic sms
[G2 and Desire Z General] ammour444:
But I want to read SMS in Arabic too.. and I have many dic. which r in Arabic.. any solution for that ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] AMoosa:
You can also receive in Arabic.
[G2 and Desire Z General] nihil38:
any recommendation for a reliable lite arabizer? program name or program to avoid?

would be appreciated....
[G2 and Desire Z General] elmadhoun:
Hello guys,

I have the desire z with arabic fonts but everything in arabic shows wrong (disconnected letters) very annoing and hard to read. I found some soft keyboards on market but nothing mentioning arabic fix for reading. Anyone know how to fix this for froyo? Great phone but need to fix this arabic reading issue.

Any help will be appreciated.
[G2 and Desire Z General] elmadhoun:
I tried anysoftkeyboard i think it's called, but all it does is give you the option of an onscreen keyboard with the built in font. It doesn't connect the letters, i don't want to type arabic, i just want to be able to read it properly on my phone without having to root or alter the OS. the phone is great very fast, apart from this issue i love it.

Will this be fix in the next android version? do you guys think we'll be getting the update as well from HTC?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Essayli:
I am patientely waiting for Android's software Engineeres to connect the Arabic letters...

Other than that I love my Desire Z over my SGS.

Cheers
[G2 and Desire Z General] aminly:
for sms -only- download Mirsal from market
[G2 and Desire Z General] nihil38:
yep, Mirsal does the trick for sms.

problem persists for emails and browsing etc.

there are no arabisers like in winmo.
[G2 and Desire Z General] elmadhoun:
I tested the new Desire HD being sold in the middle east and it comes preloaded with full arabic support froyo 2.2! Same with the Galaxy Tab. The interface can be english with full support of arabic text in sms, email and browser.

Now my questions, am i stuck with no official arabic support as my unit came from EU? is there a way to flash an arabic rom when available without losing the ability to receive official updates in the future?

Basically, i just want to be able to read proper arabic test on my phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] shuwaz:
I have all sorts installed but still my contacts (i.e. when people ring) are displayed in broken text... oh well. there is an arabic ROM package but it costs £3.60!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roufosso:
You can use persian browser to read arabic connected letters
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unnddd:
I've already S-OFFed my Desire, but there's something I'm not clear about. If I change my partition layout to that of the Nexus One, can I then install any custom ROM originally intended for the Nexus One, or do I need to stick with the Desire ones? How do I change partition layout, or is this done automatically?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
The n1 partition tables only changes the mtd partitions on your device, to that of the nexus one, if you flash a nexus one rom, your gunna brick your phone lol, you can only flash aosp desire roms with thoes tables....
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unnddd:
So what's the reason us HTC Desire users can't just flash Nexus One ROMs, considering the fact that the hardware is almost identical?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
Almost identical is not the same as identical!

Nexus One ROMs can be ported relatively easily, but the kernel is always swapped for a Desire kernel.

Regards,

Dave
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unnddd:
Thanks, but does that mean I can get any Nexus One ROM myself and port it simply by replacing the kernel? Is there anything else I would need to do to get the camera/radio etc. working? Any kernel modules I would have to replace?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxmeister:
It isn't quite as simple as replacing the kernel, but it usually the place to start!

You certainly don't want to be flashing a Nexus One radio onto a Desire, unless you have a requirement for a bricked device! :)

Regards,

Dave
[Epic 4G Accessories] djcslice:
Samsung announced before the galaxy s line was released that all phones were getting among other things, a car mount. Its the only accessory I have really been pining after. Anyone have any idea about when its coming out?
[Epic 4G Accessories] vaderj:
car mount

I got a generic one off of ebay for $5. the suction cup is worthless but it came with spring loaded vent hooks also which keep it secure in my truck
[Epic 4G Accessories] murso74:
i have a feeling it has something to do with the line out not working till froyo comes out, like with the home dock. at least i hope so. if we see froyo without a car dock i'm gonna be pissed.
[Epic 4G Accessories] m5james:
I've ordered two of the Media Docks, $20 each shipped. One will stay in my office on my desk, the other I will be customizing to fit into the ashtray of my X5 so I don't have to fumble with the car charger and headphone cords anymore since 2.2 will enable the headphone jack on the dock through the MicroUSB port.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Dulanic:
I finally just got rid of Sirius because my new car has bluetooth that I can play slacker through. Soooo I went and ordered one for $5 off ebay. I dont expect it to be top notch.... but as long as it holds the phone I am good.
[Epic 4G Accessories] pablomentabo:
This is one thing I've been waiting for since I got my epic on release day. Starting to get sick of waiting. I want to probably get the Arkon beanbag mount but I hate that it doesn't come with a car charger and it's so freakin hard to find a car charger that has an angeled head (on the point that plug into the phone) so I don't have a goofy wire curved around the top of the phone.

I still do not have any mount or car charger yet as I still want to wait for the official dock but my patience is wearing very thin on this issue
[Epic 4G Accessories] dmarden:
Proclip vehicle mount with adjustable ipod holder works 100% perfectly and allows enough adjustment to use with Epic bare or with any of the common snap on cases and such.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Grogck:
This was my biggest concern when I got the phone as well as I wasn't a fan of the top-mounted usb input Samsung chose to go with when most other devices are (logically IMO) bottom-mounted precisely because of cradling convenience.

I picked up a Bracketron universal vent mount. I then got a 3' car charger (straight) and a 3' stereo cable to input the audio into my radio. I lashed the two cables together about every 6" with black wire ties. It's really only a little over 1' from my radio to the mount, but I just let them loop over and hang down the left side onto the center of the console when I'm not in the car. And the extra length is nice as it allows you to easily pull the cables to you when you hop in the car for a quick/easy plug in before putting the phone in the dock. Perhaps not the most elegant solution, but it's passable and semi-efficient until a more official solution comes out (and even then I'm not a big fan of the landscape layout.)
[Epic 4G Accessories] m5james:
This thread needs pics and links! I recently tried some little cheapy one at WalMart for $7, and while it was a super tight fit, it bounced around too much while driving to make it reasonably viewable to watch movies at the same time.
[Epic 4G Accessories] omgitzsars:
I did this with my epic and used a cheap crappy case I found on eBay and the cradle/mount from Garmin Nuvi.

lifehackerdotcom / 5593245 / build-a-custom-phone-car-mount-for-under-10

Using these as adhesive:

wwwdotamazondotcom / gp / product / B0001X6USW / ref=oss_product

Works amazingly well and is custom fit for our epics.
[Epic 4G Accessories] dwyw42:
What case did you use?
[Epic 4G Accessories] kraminc:
Just ordered 2 of these. Sprints stores said they didnt have it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250736510666&category=20336&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
[Epic 4G Accessories] m5james:
$50?! I had a hard time spend under $10 on a universal one!
[Epic 4G Accessories] kraminc:
Its only money. I had to order 2. here is anouther

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EV3YF4...e=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B004EV3YF4
[Epic 4G Accessories] omgitzsars:
Search for this on ebay:

Samsung Epic 4G Rubberized Hard Case Cover Black

Although any generic hard case works.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Early Adopter:
I ordered one from talkietech.com. $48.90 shipped.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Geekybiker:
http://www.thecellguru.com/Products/26862

$32 shipped.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Dulanic:
Anyone get one? I am guessing by the look that it does not work with a case.
[Epic 4G Accessories] los1223:
Can anyone post a few more detailed pics when they get it please? I'd like to know a few things like if it has a connection for audio out, and does it work? If not, can you plug in a 3.5 audio cable or does the mount obstruct the jack? How does the "cradle' attach to the "mount"? Could one use just the cradle part with their own mount? How much tilt/swivel does it allow for? TIA
[Epic 4G Accessories] m5james:
LOL...I love it when people say that. Well feel free to send me one, I mean, it's only money.
[Epic 4G Accessories] tcrimsonk:
I've read reviews for this same mount as listed for other Galaxy S class phones. I haven't bought the mount for myself yet, so my info is based on those reviews.

The mount covers the phone's built in 3.5 jack, so you can't plug anything into the phone's audio port while it's in the car dock.

The dock does have a 3.5 jack in the back of it, but it does not work on Galaxy S phones running 2.1

The current early release of 2.2 does not enable the audio port on peoples' desk mounts, so I imagine the audio port on the car dock also still does not work.

Keep your fingers crossed for the final Froyo, which should be here "soon".
[Epic 4G Accessories] djcslice:
the problem I have is that the picture shows a different phone than the epic and the epic is a bit thicker than the other galaxy s phones. Can you please post pictures so we can verify it fits the epic.

Thanks!
[Epic 4G Accessories] saintirish:
Thanks for the info. I have the 2800 mah extended battery. Do you know if this mount will still hold it with the new battery?
[Epic 4G Accessories] Geekybiker:
The place I ordered from had a picture of an epic.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Top Nurse:
The local factory Sprint store told me Saturday that there was no new accessories in the pipeline for the Epic that they knew about. What I really want is a home doc that allows for PC synch.
[Epic 4G Accessories] djcslice:
It says sprint at the top but the profile looks nothing like the epic. The part number hints at it being different but beyond 3rd party sites saying its for the epic there is no proof that its for the epic. I will be anxiously waiting a confirmation.
[Epic 4G Accessories] codest3r:
After reviewing this thread I decided to try a different option... I use a Pt (Platinum) case from Best Buy (similar to a Seidio's I think) that includes a swivel belt clip so my mount had to take that into consideration - as I don't want to flip the back casing out to go from holster mode to car mount mode and wear down the case tabs/clips.

Trying out:

Arkon SM410

$25 http://www.arkon.com/Smartphone_Holder.php OR cheaper on Amazon:

$15 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ELOOZO/ref=ox_ya_os_product

Comes with windshield, vent, and dash mount options and is adjustable for this device or others of a similar size, and shouldn't be affected by my existing carrying case. Got decent reviews on Amazon and for all the options in the price figured it was worth a shot.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Early Adopter:
daydeal.com has a couple of decent pictures.
[Epic 4G Accessories] dewey1973:
Decent price on the official Samsung mount.

http://www.estocksurplus.com/product_info.php?products_model=SSA-ECS-M982BEG-MobA
[Epic 4G Accessories] gorby911:
Does not look like Epic in terms of thickness at all. In fact, it has AT&T logo on top of the phone... so to me it seems that it is the same stock Galaxy S picture (no keyblard) and they can slap whatever carrier name on it they see fit. I wouldn't be surprised if the mount does not fit Epic, but I hope I am wrong.
[Epic 4G Accessories] djcslice:
If you take a look at the pictures early adopter mentioned, they look pretty good and I believe its the same manufacture part number
[Epic 4G Accessories] Early Adopter:
Sorry I couldn't post the pics...too new around here. After looking at a bunch of different angles, I have concerns about whether or not I will be able to use a 3.5mm cable when the phone is in the dock (dremel time?). I am encouraged to see that the mount comes with a car charger.
[Epic 4G Accessories] djcslice:
It looks like there is an audio out on the mount, however that wont be usable until at least 2.2 comes out
[Epic 4G Accessories] kraminc:
Ok mine have arrived and I must say the quality is very good. There is a audio port but does not work at this time. It is very sturdy and well made. Well worth the money. I am running dk28 epic experience but still can't use the audio port.
[Epic 4G Accessories] knx2:
Does the car charger plug into the window mount?
[Epic 4G Accessories] Early Adopter:
I got mine today but I had to let my wife wrap it up and put it under the damn xmas tree.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Geekybiker:
I got mine today. It's definitely for the epic. No case allowed. You might be able to get a phone with a skin on in there though. The phone pops into a rubberized clip and then a block slides in to the micro USB port. That block has ports for the charger (included) as well as an AUX audio jack. There is a sticker on it about the audio jack not working until android 2.2. Aside from the window suction cup, they include a plastic puck with double sided tape that you can stick to your dash, and then use the suction cup on that instead.

These look very much like production units that samsung has been stockpiling for the official froyo release.
[Epic 4G Accessories] luis12285:
got any pics?
[Epic 4G Accessories] los1223:
Does the mount separate from the holder? Could someone use their own mount with just the holder part of this cradle?
[Epic 4G Accessories] boogief1:
i got this mount for my phone

this mount works great for the epic

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...lack/9384668.p?id=1218097160642&skuId=9384668
[Epic 4G Accessories] Early Adopter:
The OEM mount is available at Best Buy now.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Geekybiker:
Yes, the mount comes off. The trouble is the ball joint, etc is on the mount side, not the holder side. I guess you could always epoxy the holder to another mount.
[Epic 4G Accessories] Geekybiker:
Those look identical to the one I got online for half the price. ;)
[Epic 4G Accessories] m5james:
Do you have a link for the one you bought?
[Epic 4G Accessories] Geekybiker:
Yup. Earlier in the thread.

http://www.thecellguru.com/Products/26862
[Epic 4G Accessories] Early Adopter:
They are the same. The only reason that I found it interesting that Best Buy has started selling them is because of the theory that Samsung had not released this product because the audio out would not work until froyo. I was initially concerned because the only retailers selling this long delayed, much anticipated accessory were discount etailers that I had never heard of. When I see one of Sprint's big retail outlets selling them, it makes me think that a.) the product I bought isn't some factory second that is never going to make the market and b.) froyo might really be right around the corner.
[Epic 4G Accessories] m5james:
My misunderstanding, I thought you were saying you found a mount for 1/2 price of the link I saw earlier that was only like $8. Honestly, I don't even need a window mount since I modified my media dock and grafted it into the ashtray of my X5, but I figured if you'd found it online for $4, I'd get it :)
[Epic 4G Accessories] djcslice:
Did yours come with the car charger?