yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD7 General] colonel:
ha ha ha ha ha

sorry

this is really funny

get a new/reconditioned HD2 on email for around £250 in UK
[HD7 General] lancewmccarthy:
Fundamentally incompatible

The hardware of the hd7 and the hd2 are almost identical, but the hd2 is actually better. It has a removable sd slot also.

The HD2 had to be redesigned because the Windows phone 7 OS is actually a silverlight runtime environment and needed different hardware and that means different drivers. There is currently no way to use the hardware on the hd7 with wm6.5.

I assume you ask this because you want the flexibility of third party apps...

I just went and downloaded Microsoft Expressions Blend 4 and started to write my own apps for my phone

Just get yourself an HD2...same performance

Lancelot

HTC Addict

HD2/HD7
[HD7 General] bartkozik:
Thanks

Super thanks to all of you!

I hoped to get an answer that I can install WM6.5 until there are some apps available for WM7 from my company. And then reinstall WM7. I guess it is not that easy... I will get the HD2 then...

Thank you for all the answers :)
[HD7 General] tai4de2:
What is "WM7" of which you speak?
[HD7 General] homer.web:
It looks that everybody understood except you...
[HD7 General] nurps:
What HTC 7 Pro in Windows Mobile? I would really love that phone if it had a decent OS (Windows Mobile)
[HD7 General] lancewmccarthy:
A little lucidity to sooth the insanity...

What exactly are you asking? HTC 7 Pro?

The HTC HD7 is a windows mobile phone (Windows Mobile 7) it's really the HD3, but htc jumped to 7 to keep the number synonymous with WM7.... to avoid confusion, although people are still confused. Here's an easy way to look at it;

htc HD2 ---> WM6.5 OS

htc HD7 ---> WM7 (sometimes referred to as Windows Phone 7) OS
[HD7 General] nurps:
Seems you are confused a little..there is no Windows Mobile 7, there is Windows Phone and Windows Mobile..and that ended with 6.5.

But there is no other modern hardware with full keyboard..so the 7 Pro needs Windows Mobile. :D
[HD7 General] Poppapete:
When someone buys a Win 7 phone and wants to install 6.5 to get productivity then I really think MS have a major problem or the guy who started this thread is having a lend of us.
[HD7 General] noelito:
I would love to have 6.5.x on my HD7 dual boot

there are a lot of apps available for 6.5.x including multiple browsers copy and paste that i could use while we wait for wp7 to grow in functionality. At this point it would be ideal to be able to dual boot with 6.5.x and wp7, I could do things I need to do on 6.5 and then go back wp7 for the most part.
[HD7 General] Lifear:
Are there any news about WM 6.5 ROM for the HD7? I have so many apps for 6.5 with no eqivalent in WM7. It would be great to have WM 6.5 on the HD7. I like the feeled speed compared to the HD2 and it feels easier to swipe with the finger, it have a faster response...
[HD7 General] Jim Coleman:
The HD7 feels faster because it runs WP7. Its processor runs at the same speed as the HD2's. The HD2 feels slower because WM6.5 is a big bag of smelly animal poo.
[HD7 General] xma1e:
First of all there is no such thing as WM7, it was aborted in favour of WP7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile).

I suggest posting in the WP7 Rom development section your requests rather than here. Considering XDA-Devs is working on craking WP7 itself and when that happens possibly Android, I think the dead OS Windows Mobile will be low down on their list.

I also think dual booting is not all what it's made out to be! I dual-boot my HD2 to Android, and no longer use WM6.5. Why you ask? Well WM 6.5 is dead, most of the services (if not all) for WM6 are available on Android.

If you really must have Windows Mobile, best option is to get a HD2, it has very good support for WM, much better than any fudgeware that could be put on the HD7.

I have my HD7, my old HD2 still uses copilot and now a few apps only found in the Android market. I purchased a simple Pay as you go SIM to keep that phone alive.
[HD7 General] nurps:
I hope its possible soon..the HTC 7 Pro is on the market soon..and there is no alternative to it...
[HD7 General] xma1e:
Give me strength!!!!!

What planet are you guys on? MS has switched development to WP7 and are not likley to support WM6 (maybe something in the numbering may give the game away here [sarcasm])

No matter how good the guys at XDA are, they are not going to crack WP7 overnight, it took them over 2 months to crack HD2 last year and that was on technology that didn't differ too much from WM6.1. WP7 is from the ground up.

As for the HD 7 Pro, it will come with WP7, nor Fairy phone 6 or anything else. And guess what? It's not even released yet so no point in asking people to crack it before it's been released.

http://www.htc.com/www/product/7pro/specification.html

Can one of the Mods close this useless thread or move it over to the HD7 Dev thread so all the Devs can laugh at it?
[HD7 General] codepad:
win mobile 6.5 on htc hd7

In reality, this requirement is due to the fact that many programs such as ACR (audio call recorder) and many other contacts backup is not running on win mobile 7. That's why I consider it important to install win 6.5 on hd7, at least temporarily.

thanks
[HD7 General] brummiesteven:
Also in reality, the HD2 and the HD7 (which was codenamed the HD3) is EXACTLY the same phone... So if you want Windows Phone, get a HD2.
[HD7 General] nurps:
This argument wont work for the HTC Pro 7
[HD7 General] Jim Coleman:
Get a Touch Pro 2 then.
[HD7 General] nurps:
No it doenst have a 1GHz CPU.
[HD7 General] a_ok2me:
Not even close. I want WM6.5 on my HD7 hardware. If I could lock my HD2 hard buttons from draining my batteries and making calls in my pocket, then it would be almost perfect.

Somewhere, they're selling hybrid HD2 (back panel) /HD7 (front and sides panels) with WM6.5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuif9tu1ze8
[HD7 General] SiemensLover:
@ a_ok2me

nice to see that video, hope it will be soon here in XDA, but i noticed that the Phone in the video does not look 100% like the known HD7 (Back side)!

EDIT: it is a China phone! not original HTC HD7 as i can see!

WBR

Siemens Lover
[HD7 General] Audio:
Oh god not another one....
[HD7 General] blue_pirate:
trade

Hi im interested on the trade, i have an HTC HD7 thats barely, no scratches at all with screen protector. So how can we trade?
[HD7 General] feifeiyueer:
A return to the landlord
[HD7 General] steveoh.sf:
Really? Are you serious? That seems like taking a quad core computer and installing windows me on it.
[HD7 General] kRt_uK:
Fake

It is a chinese fake saled in Brazil.
[HD7 General] jmallen:
Well I too hope that someone can figure out how to get wm6.5 on the HD7. T-mobile is shoving that phone down our throat. My company has is software written for wm6.5 and WILL NOT work with the Windows 7 nor android. I don't feel like Replacing $15000 worth of software just because MS decided to be proprietary.:(
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Edit: There is no need for a duplicate thread. Please see Permanent Root thread in Dev fora.

Just to highlight some other existing threads, since this is such big news :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=832706

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=803208 (go to the end of that big thread)
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
I've been following too

[EDIT: HEADLINE NEWS]

PERMANENT ROOT ACHIEVED

Desire Z /G2 and Desire HD users rejoice

steps were: disable NAND security (S-OFF)

apply root

link to permanent root for G2:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9109921

BEWARE this has been tested for G2, DZ to come soon :D
[Android Apps and Games] Vtune:
I have created a Puzzel Alarm which should help me to get out of bed.

When an alarm goes of the snooze or dismiss button are easily pressed.

So I wanted to make an application that shows a puzzel before the

alarm can be dismissed. I'm still working on it, but some more info

and an installable version can be found in this post on my site

http://goo.gl/5YnIy There are also some screenshots. Can I ask some of

you to test the application and give some problems, remarks,

(performance) tips, ... to make my application better?

Hopefully the concept is already nice and could it be useful for more of you guys :)
[Android Apps and Games] khaytsus:
The alarm I use has a 5x5 or 6x6 (forget which) pattern of dots and it randomly picks 3 or more dots and you must do the same within a period of time or you can't disable the alarm..

And the alarm works flawlessly, never a fault, works great, just a few bucks in the market.

Just saying..
[Android Apps and Games] Vtune:
Thx for the information. But as a developer it's always useful to learn more and this time I want to learn Android and Java.

So tips, remarks, comments are always welcome! :D I don't want to earn money with it ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Vtune:
Somebody who knows how I can show the snooze and puzzle screen directly without first unlocking the phone? The platform where it is designed for is Android 1.6.

I already read that it's possible when I should make/port it to Android 2.1 or higher but with my X10 I'm still on 1.6 and want to be able to use it ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Vtune:
Puzzel alarm 1.0

Finally version 1.0 is ready and can be found at this link.

All remarks, tips, problems/errors, ... are welcome!
[Android Apps and Games] RyanZA:
Froyo is a bit of a pain to root! Well, this fixes that.

Credits

z4ziggy

Sebastian Krahmer's rageagainstthecage

What this does

It is an app you install from the market or by side loading, that has a single button that will root your device.

How safe is this?

Should be 100% safe - nothing on disk is changed besides the root binaries, so if something goes wrong, simply rebooting the device should fix up any and all issues. Let me know if you find any bugs!

[size=+1]The new temporary root option works on 99% of available Android devices - no list yet of which specific devices are incompatible with the temporary root option - I am still trying to find out.[/size]

Here is the list so far of known compatible and incompatible devices for the permanent root option. I haven't actually tested these myself - I only have a Galaxy S device - but this list has been created by reports from users.

Compatible with [size=+2]PERMANENT[/size] root option

Samsung Galaxy S (All variants)

Backflip

Sony X10

Xperia Mini

Droid 2

Galaxy Tab

Galaxy I5700

Galaxy 3 I5800

Droid X

Samsung Acclaim

Cricket Huawei Ascend

Motorola Cliq

Huawei 8120

Hero

G1

Optimus T

Droid 1

Garmin Asus A50

Motorola Defy

LG Ally

Motorola Flipside

Motorola Milestone 2

Dell streak

X10 Mini Pro

Smartq v7 android 2.1

Incompatible with [size=+2]PERMANENT[/size] root option

Desire (requires nand unlock)

Desire HD (requires nand unlock)

Magic (unknown)

Evo (requires nand unlock)

G2 (requires nand unlock)

Archos 70 (unknown)

myTouch 3G (unknown)

Wildfire

Droid Incredible

Changelog

V1.0.0 : Initial Release

V1.1.0 : Will now open the application settings page if USB debugging is not enabled.

V1.2.0 : Unroot support, fix for devices with small max file size such as I5700, binaries in xbin rather than bin

V1.2.1 : Back to /system/bin for support for some devices. Fix for QVGA devices.

V1.2.2 : Adverts added (can be permanently disabled with menu option). Hopeful fix for devices such as Moment (Did not work).

V1.3.0 : Force unroot option, temporary root option.

Market

This application is available directly from the market. Search for 'z4root'

Donations

If this app helps you out, you can donate here:

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...=PP-DonationsBF:btn_donateCC_LG.gif:NonHosted
[Android Apps and Games] penfold:
if it works i expect it will be blocked with the next android update as usual
[Android Apps and Games] Hyperion82:
Thanks !!!

This is great news !!!
[Android Apps and Games] Mycorrhiza:
nice one!

market release?
[Android Apps and Games] sockmonkey72:
Seems to have worked on my Galaxy S with stock german Froyo (JPO/JPP/JP3)! I'll let you know if I run into problems. Thanks, jb
[Android Apps and Games] halabibk:
Work but in order to root my device have to be in "USB debugging"
[Android Apps and Games] thunderteaser:
You're the One Click Man!
[Android Apps and Games] RyanZA:
Ah, interesting. Maybe I can find a workaround, but I guess turning on USB debugging isn't too difficult.
[Android Apps and Games] lba810701:
Thx! It's working ( but, the USB Debugging mode must be enabled ) at

PDA: i9000XXJPO ; PHONE: i9000XXJPP ; CSC: i9000OXAJPO ; !!!
[Android Apps and Games] FadeFx:
will test on my girlfriends i5800 as soon as it´s back from service, its there for pin request issue...
[Android Apps and Games] RyanZA:
First post updated with new version: will now detect when USB debugging is not enabled, and instruct you to enable it, as well as auto opening the settings page.
[Android Apps and Games] halabibk:
Good...........
[Android Apps and Games] y3kt:
Will this work in other versions like T-Mobile Vibrant? Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] mihyes:
Invalid attachment?

Nevermind, I clicked between the updates I guess. Works now.
[Android Apps and Games] RyanZA:
It should work on most Android devices. Vibrant is almost an I9000, so 99% chance it will work fine.
[Android Apps and Games] Beards:
Two quick questions:-

1. Does USB Debugging have to selected ALL the time or just to install?

2. For other Root files i.e. 'CF-Root-XX_XEU_JPO-v1.2-Busybox-1.17.1' do they require USB Debugging to install or when in use?
[Android Apps and Games] lucbl1:
How to Unroot back?
[Android Apps and Games] ragin:
Hi RyanZA, been missing you here.

This is awesome, & a very useful solution.

Sorry for chipping late, was out partying :D
[Android Apps and Games] RyanZA:
USB debugging is only required to root, once rooted you can turn it off again. This is because the root (rageagainstthecage) uses the 'ADB' or android debugging bridge/daemon to work it's magic. :)

CF-Root is a big step further than just USB debugging or rooting - CF-Root is replacing the OS kernel on your device. So it's not really the same thing, it's a lot more extreme. And it's much more difficult to install - it needs Odin after all.

This root is very similar to the 'SuperOneClick' root, but I personally did not like the PC requirement involved, so I made this.

Sorry.. I didn't even think about unrooting. The idea is a bit foreign to me. :D

That said, I will definitely have the app pick up if its rooted, and change the root button into an unroot button automagically in the next ver. :)
[Android Apps and Games] Beards:
Thanks Ryan.... Crystal clear. :)
[Android Apps and Games] RyanZA:
Having trouble rooting your phone? This might be just for you!

Credits

z4ziggy

Sebastian Krahmer's rageagainstthecage

What this does

It is an app you install (currently you must side load it, but it will be on the market once it's had some testing here on XDA), that has a single button that will root your device. Should work on ALL Android devices -- please leave a note if it works or doesn't work on your device.

How safe is this?

Should be 100% safe - nothing on disk is changed besides the root binaries, so if something goes wrong, simply rebooting the device should fix up any and all issues. Let me know if you find any bugs!

Changelog

V1.0.0 : Initial Release

V1.1.0 : Will now open the application settings page if USB debugging is not enabled.
[Android Apps and Games] RyanZA:
New version 1.1.0 uploaded with detection for USB debugging not being enabled.
[Android Apps and Games] bradleyw801:
This looks really cool! But, is it just a shell root? Not a nand unlock?
[Android Apps and Games] petter11:
It does not seem to work on my Archos 101 Internet tablet, it just reboots the device.

Edit: Busybox says it isn't rooted.
[Android Apps and Games] zilexa:
Will this do a Full root on X10 Mini Pro? just as this tool is suppose to do? Unfortunately that tool keeps looping even if I tap usb debugging for hours...

So Root and Shell Root and Superuser and allow non-market apps (thought that was just a normal setting in Android..)?
[Android Apps and Games] robbyf66:
awesome app, I just did this on Sony x10, although I can't confirm that it installed busybox. I loaded it from the market and it didn't detect it.

Install on busybox 1.17.1 worked good
[Android Apps and Games] SXUsr:
Thanks.

It started the process and rebooted, but hadn't installed Busybox, so downloaded it from the Market and it confirms the phone is actually rooted. Good start but far from perfect.
[Android Apps and Games] 1/4 Life:
Does this work on the HTC Evo?
[Android Apps and Games] CoryKalis:
Any1 tried on the dinc???
[Android Apps and Games] Gahh Its Lee:
Just use in unrevoked HTC devices are harder to root
[Android Apps and Games] partyman1971:
Worked great on my EVO.
[Android Apps and Games] ishkarioth:
Working on GSM HTC Hero 2.1 with original spanish Orange rom, AFAIK. The screen says "wait for root to complete and reboot your phone", stays there forever and after 1 hour I decided to go back. Rebooted manually and there it was, just downloaded Busybox from Market and working fine.

Its been the only working method for me, so saying thanks is actually less than needed.
[Android Apps and Games] Indigon:
Worked great on my Droid 2

Thanks so much for this.
[Android Apps and Games] reyrey2435:
i have a droid 2 also and really wanting to root was this root way painless and is everything working ok?
[Android Apps and Games] Indigon:
Everything works perfect on my Droid 2, fast and easy one click root like it says.

Been waiting for something like this, so glad I did it.

Opens a whole new world of great rooted apps and

getting rid of that unnecessary bloatware.

Remember to first enable (turn on) usb debugging: Menu> Settings> Applications> Development> USB Debugging

Kudos! Thanks again to the Dev!
[Android Apps and Games] genericuk:
I tried Superoeclick yesterday only my X10 Mini (2.1 firmware), which tells me the phone is rooted, but still won't allow me to delete apps

just tried this and it ran, rebooted the phone as it should but when I try to remove some apps it still won't let me :(

forgot too add, it didn't install Busybox either
[Android Apps and Games] tomeks:
It worked flawlessly on galaxy s jm1,

great app !
[Android Apps and Games] yeahlindsey:
Works on DX! (Mine froze and required a reboot after the first try, but worked like a charm the 2nd go round)
[Android Apps and Games] robrowald:
Install busybox and see if it rooted it; where did you get a 101, I thought they weren't released yet...
[Android Apps and Games] dil2502:
worked on an og droid running frg22d

thanks
[Android Apps and Games] Jeffexe:
Unless on SE Xperia x10i is working gr8!
[Android Apps and Games] rocktoonz:
Just checked the Market and z4root isn't there any more...update coming?
[Android Apps and Games] Lancez:
ya, same here. it was there yesterday, but not today. i prefer to use this instead of others. hopefully an update is coming today, coz i just flashed and waiting fir rooting :D
[Android Apps and Games] klubhead:
Ahh got ya.. so I'm guessing that means on a reboot it goes back to unrooted?
[Android Apps and Games] mcmikecruz1:
Correct
[Android Apps and Games] phxevo:
Evo

I have tried the new software under permanent and temporary, I confirm the other post that it only works under temporary with the EVO. But works quite nicely.
[Android Apps and Games] mcmikecruz1:
I said that because a member on the other z4 thread I was talking to said it works , now that I try it on my own phone it doesn't the other member's evo is a 3.30 build mine is 3.29 what's yours ? can't think of any other reason it doesn't work for me

Swyped from my EVO
[Android Apps and Games] rocktoonz:
z4root is back on the Android Market with a note stating that Google removed it with no notification. Still 1.3.0
[Android Apps and Games] appagom:
Good to see Google is starting to go after this. I use and like it even though I know how to do it by hand and have many times. Still its easier with the app. But any app containing this exploit has the potential to be malicious and do bad things to your device bank accounts etc.. They should have their virus checkers automatically removing it.

Of course if they have a sense of free spirit and human intervention they could let this one go.
[Android Apps and Games] appagom:
Of course Google can't really do much anyway..a malicious app could just download the exploit without containing it.
[Android Apps and Games] techdaring:
Does it working with HTC Desire HD ?
[Android Apps and Games] Lancez:
z4root is not on market, again! what is wrong with google?
[Android Apps and Games] RaWkItBoI:
does this work for the HTC EVO with Froyo+latest update??

and if it does, how do i get it on my phone....can't download it from phone, had to download from computer
[Android Apps and Games] fattire:
I submitted a patch to the author. Hopefully it will soon.
[Android Apps and Games] fattire:
Seriously, do you have any clue what you're talking about?
[Android Apps and Games] larriet888:
Will there be an unroot soon?
[Android Apps and Games] T1CTACULAR:
works on my DX
[Android Apps and Games] appagom:
uhm... yah I do actually. Now.. do I know why google is actually knocking it offline(or even if), no not actually, that's an assumption, just making a point. I only know why they should take it down. If you don't realize than an app that is capable of getting complete root access to your phone represents (not actually is in this case) a serious security threat then you really shouldn't be asking silly questions like that. (and like I said I like it and use it and I effectively replaced the rooting guide for the korean phone with a reference to it in the first line! It's not a moral judgement about the app). Of course what they should do is fix the exploit, but then since not everyone will upgrade, they should also do what they can to block this kind of they thing (which isn't much, but...). It wouldn't be the end of the world or unreasonable of Google to make us have to grab security hacks to their system from somewhere other than their own servers would it. That may or may not have anything to do with the present situation though I'll grant.

Now am I guilting of trolling? well a little.. but I follow these threads anyway (and help in related ones), not just so I can input a soapbox message now and then, so I think I'm not too far out of bounds there. You should be a little careful about what YOU know before you start making personal attacks noob.

edit so two possibilities

1) what you should have said was "good point but that's not actualy why it's down (if you happen to know that)"

or 2) You actually had no clue that an app that gets root is a security threat and you should have posed a genuine inquiry.

So either you are trying to start a fight for no reason or you are ignorant AND you are trying to start a fight for a dumb reason.
[Android Apps and Games] norkoastal:
Helped get Superuser access to my Nook Color :-)
[Android Apps and Games] messxxxedge:
excited to try
[Android Apps and Games] Therev29:
Worked great on my buddies droid 2, thanks for making this!

It's nice not needing a computer and having to install drivers.

I'm almost thinking of un rooting my incredible to test - temp root with this, flash clockwork with rom manager and then flash unrevoked forever, should give permanent root atleast for the devices that this doesn't give permanent root too
[Android Apps and Games] hugarasaka:
help

i download the z4root using pc how to transfer it to galaxy tab? is it just drag and drop to it? and what folder should i put it in :confused:..

thanks
[Android Apps and Games] Red_Cheeks:
So does anyone know how to unroot?
[Android Apps and Games] mrapollinax:
Well, you could try the "unroot" option that shows up after you root with z4root...
[Android Apps and Games] fancso:
Z4 root is sweet that's what I used
[Android Apps and Games] appagom:
Drag and drop is one way. Then use something like root explorer to find it on your sdcard and launch it from the phone. Or just use adb to install it to the phone in the first place. I do either depending on my mood.