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[Vibrant General] oka1:
My take

I've used both TW and Eugene roms. Both have good points and ppl are loyal to one or the other depending on their needs and understanding of the rom. Where I think TW does a better job is; on the play by play explanations for install and do a better marketing writeup (more enticing descriptions). Beyond that, it is a personal preference. I personally like Eugene's roms better, no real science behind the statement but I have never had a hang or anything not work. But that is just me.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Probably because it's riddled with more problems
[Vibrant General] FreydNot:
More likely because it went from R9 to R10 and R11 is pending.
[Vibrant General] vapotrini:
We get it, you're angry that you lost your internal storage however that could have happened with any ROM.

No need for cheap shots.
[Vibrant General] mikeyinid:
I ran both roms eugene put out and tw's 2.2 for a few hours each today. i personally like the look of eugenes roms better, but tw's obsidian is more complete...less issues with obsidian. I f your familiar with the "2.2 race", you also know there was some sketchy-ness going on. Give eugene a few days and his rom will be the better one, imo.

...I seem to still be having data issues with both roms :( Not as good reception and losing data for almost a minute when switching from 3g to edge and back...I have always had a very solid 3g signal at home and ive been using edge half the day...
[Vibrant General] sparkyj62:
Ive been running bionix fusion 1.2 so far havent experienced any issues so far. 1.1 had a couple small issues for me but overall was pretty good. As someone else has said no two vibrants are a like. So far i have only used Team Whiskey roms, but have no real loyalty for either. Props go out to both for doing what they do best, and giving us a bunch of options to chose from.
[Vibrant General] masterotaku:
Well I try everything, so I'm trying Macnut R10 and Bionix Obsidian. And I'll settle on whichever one works overall best to my needs. This stuff is so easy to personally evaluate that you really don't need to do anything but simply go see for yourself.

My two cents... YMMV. :)
[Vibrant General] jmerchant:
Well as my sig stats, I'm into Bionix - Team Whiskey releases, really other than a problem with exchange calendar synching this has been pretty stable.

All the previous Bionix releases we're way stable for me never having a single issues with any of them.

But we'll see how things shake out over the next few days...
[Vibrant General] gl3nng:
Try both roms and play with it. Then you'll know which rom makes you comfortable with.

I love bionix and eugene. They made my vibrant very happy
[Vibrant General] Prodrive789:
Both camps are very talented and put out great stuff. I'm going hold off on either 2.2 setup for a bit, I'm running Bionix Fusion and I'm quite happy!
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Both of them have bugs but Eugenes seems to be worse. I'm waiting for official FroYo. It's not worth the stress.
[Vibrant General] nearblack:
I say give them both a try.

And these ROMs are really getting a bad rep - they aren't as buggy as it has been portrayed.

95% of the people with bugs will post on those threads.

95% of the people who have the ROM running great won't post.

Just facts of how forums work.

Honestly, there are people who are reporting issues that make it clear that they shouldn't be flashing ROMs at all. If you don't know a ROM has the possibility to wipe, and you didn't back up, stay on stock and wait patiently for the OTAs. If you don't go through the steps of rebooting, reflashing, and ODINing to stock and then reflashing, before posting any bugs, then again, stay on stock and wait patiently for the OTAs.

These Froyo ROMs have been as buggy as any other Eclair ROM for the most part. These past couple of days have just been insane :eek:
[Vibrant General] pigs3littleones:
All these MODs are flaky, tw, eugene, master et al. Have tried them all and multiple versions. Just goes to show how bad Samsung effed up this phone that the modded ROMs are still a better experience than stock.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
No they're not. I keep going back to stock JI6, it's the best thing out once you mod it up a bit with the MobileAP, Captivate Camera, etc.
[Vibrant General] Anderdroid:
Try my AOSPish 2.2 ! ;)
[Vibrant General] Alkaloid:
+1

I actually came in here to suggest just that.

Excellent work as always, Anderdroid!
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
I have 1 bug in TW. The rest have been fixed the same day it was released
[Vibrant General] lqaddict:
Did you just contradict yourself :rolleyes: once you start replacing the crap you are no longer stock. Team Whiskey have offered their skinned ROM's with stock kernel and modem.
[Vibrant General] Essien:
Personally I'm using Eugene's rom. I've been a big fan of the bionix / team whiskey stuff outside of the start up sound but their 2.2 rom seems buggier than Eugene's.
[Vibrant General] quest4fire:
Both are good but Eugene's is based off of a AT&T Froyo Rom and Whiskey is a TMO Rom.
[Vibrant General] smashpunks:
The modded roms kill stock any day.... These 2.2 roms are very stable, screw stock, this will be way ahead of 2.2 if it actually gets released.....

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[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Depends on what you're looking for. I thought JI6 stock was perfectly usable and mostly lag free. I'm a fan of the Bionix ROMs because I like the black notification bar and other mods, and they're just as stable (never had a freeze, FC, or reboot on Fusion).

Planning to try out Obsidian as soon as their R2 comes out ( don't want to have to fiddle with the calendar and other issues that TW should fix).
[Vibrant General] KerryG:
If you want a daily driver that you won't be wanting to flash for a little while than the answer is none of them yet. Depending on the rom you will likely have GPS issues, battery issues, connection issues, WiFi calling app sucking up CPU, apps not restoring right, and numerous other issues.

Consider any of the 2.2 builds to be beta quality right now. If you are good with that, than go for it. If you need to make sure things work with a minimum amount of stress, then wait about a week.
[Vibrant General] jonwilly:
I personally use Team Whiskey 1.1 Fusion with there Core 1.2 Kernel and could not be happier. My phone is super fast and smooth and battery life has greatly improved. Its the only custom ROM I have tried but see no reason to switch right now as nothing out seems to bring anything to much better to the table. Yea 2.2 gives you Flash support but I don't really care about that to much right now.

The reason I picked Fusion was because they removed the stock launcher and Launcher Pro is the default. I like launcher pro in the first place and the additional tweaks they have done just seal the deal. GPS also seems greatly improved over stock ROM's.

Will upgrade to 2.2 down the road but its still way to early in the game for me to jump ship right now. 2.2 still has some work that the Dev are doing to it tweaking it out. If it aint broke no need to fix it and I could not be more happy with how my phone runs on there ROM.

I have heard nothing but good things from Dev Eugeans ROM's
[Vibrant General] MilkPudding:
You won't ever get the answer here. It's like asking 'orange and pear, which one is better?'

I've tried both ROMs and frankly speaking, both are fast and smooth. In the end, it all comes down to personal preference of how the ROM looks and feel.
[Vibrant General] gunks:
Put down the pipe! ROMs > stock... ANY day.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Right, if you want to have something with more bugs than a street whore.. YA YOU'RE RIGHT. ANY day of the week I would take stock JI6 over the themed(sloppy themes) roms in the developers section. I'm not alone here. You can't flash the stock JI6 frameworks over because it won't work right and some of the apps are still a different color of course. The only reason why I flashed these 2.2 roms is because they don't look completely pieced together and ugly. I'm sure that will change with time. All of you worried about burn-in should be concerned about flashing an all black rom, those white-lit LED's will burn in just that much faster.
[Vibrant General] vapotrini:
There goes any little bit of credibility you had left... out the window.
[Vibrant General] Sonnislav:
Tried out both... TW v1 was laggy for me so switched to r10 and used one of those OC kernels... r10 froze once but can't be sure if it was r10 or the superpower app or something else... but planning to be switching back and forth because personally it's fun exploring the latest...

Some of the comments here and other threads... man, developers must have thick skin...
[Vibrant General] larryvand:
Tell me who has the better WiFi Calling support that does not drain battery and gives you flawless audio and that is the one that I will use. Cause WiFi calling is indispensable to me as I have major coverage issues (like none) in my house with T-Mobile. So for those that have tested both, who has the better WiFi calling support? Eugene's rom or TW rom? Thanks for the answer guys.
[Vibrant General] RobBull69:
TW took WiFi calling out of their rom because it caused lag, so you'd have to go with Eugene's Rom, the AOSPish or TMO one. I've used both TW and Eugene's work and they both rock, so you have to look at the features in the OP to decide which is best for you. Different strokes for different folks. It's nice to have choices - this isn't communist Russia. In Soviet Russia, rom choose you:p
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
Tw was taken out because it drains battery in all roms. And I believe anyone can add it back in with a matter of 2 seconds. most people dont use this feature thats why its out
[Vibrant General] icandy75:
They are exactly the same on both. They both work very well but drain battery in the background.
[Vibrant General] allthrottle:
I'm using TW v2 and am not unhappy with it. Its fairly smooth and without a whole lot of bugs. Swype is still horrible. I swype a word and half the time its wrong. Normally I'd get options for similar words, but the ones I'm getting now aren't even close....they don't even have the same letters sometimes.

To the person that said "wifi calling is indispensible"....what were you doing in 2.1, without it? Its a nice feature, and useful to some with horrible reception, but honestly, you've lived this long without it. You'll be ok.
[Vibrant General] xebix:
I haven't tried either Eugene or TW. I decided to give AOSPish a try because I like the stock Froyo look. It seems to be working great so far. I thought about trying out Eugene or TW, but I might just stick with what I'm running now unless I hear a good reason to switch to either of the others. ie. better performance
[Vibrant General] larryvand:
With 2.1 I was using my BlackBeryy Pearl at home with has awesome UMA. But I'd rather have one phone to use rather than keep swapping the SIM card from phone to phone every day. So as you can see WiFi calling IS indispensable to me.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
I ended up rolling back to bionix fusion because two diifferent builds of Froyo were terribly slow and laggy for me. I'm going to give it a few more weeks for more speed optimizations, like an oc kernel with z4mod.
[Vibrant General] Relikk356:
Macnut R10 = Very fast, the fastest 2.2 on my phone.

Sucks battery down "like a fat kid eating cake". Last about a day, not bad but not what i'm use to with other roms. Running OC 802 kernal. LP score 15.86

TeamWhiskey 2.2 = Decent battery life, but seems laggy. Some area's are more polished, such as BT interface (probably because this was built off of official leaked rom). LP score apx 12.86.
[Vibrant General] junkdruggler:
I've been running the all stock jk2 since about 9 last night... Played with it about 4 hours last night and about 5+ today so far.. My battery life is much better than stock... Swype is a little finicky.. I see slight lag when pressing back or home.. All in all this is a pretty decent build..
[Vibrant General] demize!:
This was supposed to be about 2.2 but since it has generalized I have been using TW. 1.2 stock with mods like noti.bar and transitions and I'm very happy with it. It is quick and smooth even though I don't use Launcherpro which I believe it is optimized for, or vanilla launcher. So I'm going to wait a bit on a Froyo rom and see what's what.

Is your phone Loki? Use Odin. You'll be Thor!
[Vibrant General] RobBull69:
I've actually notices that launcher2 is more laggy than the TouchWiz mod in the Obsidian build.
[Vibrant General] g1ftmfw:
macnut 10 chars
[Vibrant General] drhonk:
I've tried both and I agree with Relikk356

MacNut R10

PRO: very fast and snappy, wifi calling

CONS: battery life is not so great (compare to 2.1), GPS takes awhile to lock (at least for me takes about 5 minutes)

Obsidian V2

PRO: GPS takes less than 5 seconds to lock, awesome battery life

CONS: very laggy

NOTE: both of these ROMs are using I9000 market app so it won't give you all apps.

I will let you guys pick. I use both gmail and exchange server to check emails as well as twitter, so I use MacNut as I don't need GPS at the moment. But again, these two ROMs are continuously being updated and fixed, so this review will probably change in a few days. :)
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
Not much lag for me on tw.
[Vibrant General] MaliceOmega:
ive only tried eugenes and team whiskeys but i run whiskeys. i had to install adw myself though becuz coming from a nexus means any launcher thats not vanilla feels weird. ive had no problems, gps works perfectly, a bit of lag from here to there but nothing that would make be toss my phone, i like the puzzle lock screen better then vanilla though. in my opinion definitely one of the better roms after Cyanogen. im just waiting for an oc/uv kernel lol
[Vibrant General] Master™:
My Axura 2.0.. ;)
[Vibrant General] etichola:
TW Obsidian V2 was very laggy for me.

Then, I tried TW Onyx.

Wow!! Onyx works really great. Very stable and fast. For my phone, obsidian V2 sucks, but onyx is great!! Onyx is the best froyo ROM for vibrant now IMO.
[Vibrant General] TEE82:
I think he meant TW as in Team Whiskey, not Touch Wiz.

I'm using TW Onyx R2.1 (can be downloaded on TW's forum site) and it's pretty awesome so far...and am now just waiting for version 3 w/the more all darkened theme.
[Vibrant General] Xencer:
I'm using Macnut because Whiskey doesn't remove the 10000# of bloatware apps!
[Vibrant General] Shrivel:
Been on Eugene's Stock 2.2 for the past week and it's been performing very well. Personally, I'm a fan of TouchWiz, so I usually stick to stock ROMs for the most part, although I do change the app drawer to 'List" format instead of those awkward grids.

Only have a few minor issues, but nothing that won't be fixed in future releases of Froyo, I'm sure. The biggest issues are the inability to access my external SD card from my PC (none of the 'fixes' have fixed this one) and minor graphical issues after installing the Accurate Battery Mod.

Speed and battery life are both as good or better than they were in 2.1.
[Vibrant General] Bandage:
TW FTW!

Started with Team Whiskey on Bionix, moved on to Fusion...Flashed Oblivion, now thoroughly enjoying Onyx!!

Never an issue that a few tweaks didn't resolve. They've made it extremely easy for an Android newb to take advantage of performance / features that should have been out-of-the-box on the Vibrant.

One of the biggest complaints I hear with TW ROMs is "laggy"...I've not experienced that at all, even without OC / Lagfixes.

I think some users don't follow flashing guidelines to the letter, and end up causing themselves some headaches. Patience wins in the longrun. Odin it first!!

Battery life is crazy good, once you tweak a few things (media hub drm freeze, etc) With moderate usage I'm going 36-48 hrs unplugged, 12-18 with heavy use (media apps / gaming)

Every Vibrant is different, totally understandable...but these guys know what they're doin. I've tried Eugene's only minimally...and I think the major clincher is the basework for his being non Vibrant IMO, but as I stated, I'm a total newb.

Onyx replaces TW Launcher with Launcher Pro...so much smoother and less lag. The customization is effin amazing combined with Desktop Visualizer.

Anywho...both Devs / Teams do amazing work, and deserve our thanks. Samsung should have done all of this as Stock. Keep up the flashin goodness!!!
[Vibrant General] Telanis:
I was on Eugene's Stock 2.2, it was a great release but too buggy for me (through no fault of Eugene's, that just how it is and why it's not an official TMo release). I haven't used Macnut. I just got Obsidian v2 and it's great so far. As far as I'm concerned, Eugene and TW are both great, just pick the one with the features you want. TW seems to optimize more so that's why I'm on Obsidian now, I HATE lag.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] aeroflyluby:
Hi

Today I tried to access gprs with 23140/Beta1 and Opera said me that connection failed. I tried again - result: Hang. After reset device says that Phone is off. No way to turn it on, commanager don't open, accessing with Settings/Personal/Phone and selecting Yes to activate don't give any result. Phone continues to be off. After a hour of playing with battery-removal, sim cleaning etc I turned the device on and it said that phone is off as before. But I noticed that after trying to enable it with phone control panel, this status doesn't change but green led starts to blink. I asked my girl to phone me and - what the hell - I really got that call. After answering I could talk normal, but phone stays 'off'. I tried to phone too, and it successed. After that, phone hung and after reset, no call could be done. Totally nothing. I tried to hard reset, after that I got the signal, but I was not be able to make a call, connect to gprs, send an sms, like with turned off phone.

My radio is 1.08 and my rom is 23140.

Any ideas? I don't have any...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] reefsucks:
can you try with 1.17 radio?

because for me the 1.17 radio version was the stable for himalaya and other chef using it too.

thanks and regards :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] aeroflyluby:
Yes I tried it and sometimes it works okay, but sometimes it works like I described above.
[XPERIA X10 General] Cuspide:
I was wondering if we don't already have 16M color since 2.1 update...

I know SE said it would'nt be part of the upgrade but:

-colors seems better

-black are very dark

-i don't see anymore bandering, fringe on large gradient for example on xda tapatalk launch anymore...

Am i the only one to feel like this ?

Sent from my X10i
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
well this will be closed and no SE didn't give it
[Omnia II General] nazaryia:
this is a hell device i don't know how it is called a windows mobile

there is no application can be set up on this device

only one message (this eyelid cab is not for this device)

is there any kind of security on this device that i can break?

please HELP ME
[HD7 General] levy9:
a quick question, how do you change the background wallpaper in the music and videos hub? My hd7 has picked an album art as the background but I can't find anyway to change it!?

Thanks
[HD7 General] brummiesteven:
It displays an image of the last played artist. You can't change it manually.
[HD7 General] paul.gregory:
Hiya

I have the same issue. The Music and Videos hub picked a picture of Michael Jackson when I first synced music onto the phone and has not changed since. I have listened to several different artists since but no change.

I like Michael Jackson's early albums and have Thriller, Bad and Off the Wall on my phone. All good. But, the photo on my background is one of his post post post op images where he looks like a strange hybrid of himself. Bad.

Oh well, I may do a hard reset and then listen to Sheryl Crow right away so that I have someone nicer to look at when browsing my music ;-)
[HD7 General] ckacey:
try streaming a common artist over Zune Pass, and that may change it
[HD7 General] YannieBoy:
I've noticed that the last Artist played over Zune Marketplace, like previewing a song shows up in the image. I've played my Zune's collection plenty of times but only the last artist played via Market shows up.
[HD7 General] prjkthack:
Play an artist, whether it be from your personal collection or from the Marketplace. Once the song starts playing, and you see the artist's background image appear, hit the Start button to get back to the Start screen and the music+videos panel should change to reflect that artist.

It seems that the music+videos panel's background photo only updates when you exit the music+videos hub. So if you exit the player while playing a song with no background image, the hub panel will not update and will continue to reflect whatever artist you played last that had an image when you last exited the player.

Otherwise the change is automatic and you cannot customize what background image it displays. Unless you manually play your artist and then immediately exit.
[HD7 General] bluegreenwhite:
How come mine do not show the current song album cover as background, both at live tile and on the music+video hub? I already downloaded zune SW to my pc and was able to sync (thru USB) my personal music collection to phone. I currently do not have subcription to zune pass but I already activated my zune profile that's linked to windows live ID. Any suggestion how to activate the album cover on both live tile and hub?

Thanks!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slayp00n:
This was never an issue with my X10 and I cnanot find a way to change this behavior.

Just because I get a notification, I do not need the music to stop. This is app independent, it is like the OS notifications will stop all other sound.

How can I stop this behavior?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dajeoo:
i dont think you can. If the music didn't stop how would you hear the notifications. Don't you want it to stop the music for incoming calls... well its the same principle.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slayp00n:
I can hear it because it would play over the music, it doesn't need to fully stop, it didst stop on my x10, it didn't stop on my ip3g..

It is insanely annoying for the sound to just stop wait 1/2 second then play a notification, then wait 1/2 second then start again.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oxirane:
I came from a HTC Magic and yeah... that took seconds to wipe data/factory reset. Vibrant takes like... 10 minutes... First time I thought I'd managged to brick my new phone it was taking so long. Any ideas why? Just the 16 GB internal vs 512 mb?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] down8:
Are you wiping from within Android, our from Recovery?

-bZj

_____

-sent from my Samsung Vibrant via XDApp
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master™:
Yeah, where are you wiping from? It normally doesn't take that long.

ps. There is only 13.8GB internal and 1.9GB external in your phone.. Not 16 internal :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Saiboogu:
Mine takes forever too - ROM flashing in general takes much longer than my G1. I assumed it was the larger ROM sizes combined with RFS garbage.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Insomaniac10:
When i wipe from CWM it takes a while for me too....im sure its because i have an assload of apps and data though
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Silent91:
After much serching around this forum and on google i still cant find a satisfying answer to my problem =.=

My problem: I flashed my HTC HD2 with the the new Energy ROM and it worked fine until after some hours :/ then the touch stopped working! And the only answer i found was that some phones has bad luck and it happens -.-'

But i wonder if there is any fix to it or if anyone else had this problem? :D

Thank you for reading and excuse my bad eng.... :P
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DN41:
i think you should install your stock rom (via sd or usb).

touch shouldnt work there too.

now you can bring it back to the shop, where you bought it.

ah yeah: i guess your digitizer is defect :P

DN41
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnerz:
or try a factory reset first