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[Vibrant General] soryazlawl:
ATTN: Don't give advice if you don't know what you're talking about.

On to the post:

You can feel free to nandroid or flash to/from anything. However, if your Obsidian install is like many other peoples, you probably can't do crap in recovery. In that case, you need to Odin. However, if your recovery does work, just flash the rom and the kernel (or just the rom, if the kernel is included)
[Vibrant General] gonintendo:
OK ill give it a shot if I decide I don't like obsidian. Thanks.
[Vibrant General] gonintendo:
By can't do crap do you mean can't flash or can't access clockwork mod? (I can boot into clockworkmod just fine)
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Ah, sorry. I thought the issue was whether you have to ODIN back to stock in order to roll back from Froyo.
[Vibrant General] Apexsilverevo:
For me the safest was to ODIN JFD, then flash JI6.
[Desire General] sfjuocekr:
Spotted: http://www.intomobile.com/2010/11/0...d-come-out-of-the-android-oven-november-11th/

/pray
[Desire General] inkredi:
don't u think that's a little bit "VERY LATE" news? :D
[Desire General] :
It is kinda late and the new Android version will come on the Nexus One first. The HTC Desire needs to wait till next year when it will come tougher with sense 2.0.
[Desire General] eastonfr:
I was under impression gingerbread was gettibg rid of sense and other such nasties. So desire owners will have to wait for gingerbread. Surely developers can port nexus obe rom to desire once its released?
[Desire General] fllash:
The desire had Froyo way before HTC released it 'officially' with Sense UI. We should get Gingerbread as soon as the source is released.
[Desire General] gurpreet3579:
sense roms update is allways delayed by google/htc, thats why nexus one will get update immidiately and desire will get it later.

any way hope we will get gingerbird as soon as it is released.
[Desire General] blunted09:
i give it a week before one of you gifted nerd bastards bless us with gingerbread :D

i shall donate immediately.
[Desire General] adjei7:
+1
[Desire General] inkredi:
I want vanilla gingerbread!!!! Sense sucks!!!
[Desire General] LiL JRG:
+1
[Desire General] LuffyPSP:
+1... hehe...

Sent using colourful smoke signals :-)
[Desire General] ionhide:
Android without sense is like a car without wheels.. All you Android stripped lovers just dont know what y'all are missing..

Gingerbread with Sense 2.0 - mmmm come to daddy :D
[Desire General] LuffyPSP:
lol~~ all i know i've bloated my phone more, not missing anything...
[Desire General] LiL JRG:
Is it not true that cars without wheels are MUCH more fuel efficient ;)
[Desire General] Milamber:
Now I like the sound of this already!
[Desire General] CrimzonEyed:
well. no one know how gingerbread will look. froyo changed how android look and so will gingerbread.
[Desire General] LuffyPSP:
Hearing the Gingerbread name makes me feel tasty. and it sounded very delicious rom to cook by the devs.
[Desire General] laurence0609:
I hope we can have Gingerbread before Christmas...lol!
[Desire General] EddyOS:
My 2p...

stock Android is fugly - end of

Add to that the fact this is old news, and shouldn't be in this forum, makes this thread a fail
[Desire General] typhex:
yeah thats right, but we just need the gingerbread base, than u can customize via launchers or wait for some good devs to make good custom roms like cyanogen or miui
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bbm21:
hey so i was pretty excited when the Manhattan project came out, but then it stopped but i still wanna overclock past 1.2ghz. i no that other galaxy s phones can. so is their any devs out there who are working on an overclocking kernel?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dan138zig:
so i'm using meebo for chats and it drains about 1% every 2 minutes of active chatting. is this normal?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MotoMudder77:
sounds pretty normal. running an app and chatting will keep the CPU at a higher level.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisizzle492:
agreed. since its sending/recieving info. also the ginormous screen :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] t1h5ta3:
chat usualy requires a constant data conection, ie: your constantly sending/reciving...

that drain sounds excessive, but a week cell signal will hurt as well...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] s0xpan:
If your like me, you follow the #g2root irc and saw Insecure recovery, a custom ClockworkMod recovery, or something thats a recovery replacement.... Well here's the stock image just incase you dont know where to find it or get it from

http://www.mediafire.com/?h3kbveir338gd54

to flash back, if somehow you forgot=

Go Into Fastboot

fastboot flash recovery [the recovery image location]

finished
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] thatruth132:
smart post people will need this . i am almost sure of it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] funkeee:
Is this a recovery or the stock rom?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xyrcncp:
As the OP said, it's the stock recovery.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] funkeee:
I didn't know the G2 had a stock recovery. When I tried to enter recovery from fastboot it gave me a warning triangle and required a battery pull.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Smokuevo:
It required u to push volume up + power to see the menu.. nothing will flash on stock recovery though I assume. Wait for clockwork or grab zincs?? Or someone close to that name
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Arcadia310:
What does this do exactly? Will this put my phone back in its stock state?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] s0xpan:
It puts stock recovery just incase you loaded an invalid recovery img or something not compatible, therefore when u attempt to access recovery it wouldn't load. Mainly put this up because I was going in circles trying to with stuff posted on the irc. For example, I flashed insecure, and it just froze at the htc loading screen.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] wilnotdie:
Yup, just the original recovery program that came with the phone. In case you want it for any reason, or want to put the phone back to stock stock everything stock... or in case you need a recovery which is confirmed working.

It will only allow you to flash signed updates.

Thanks for this image. I knew someone would post it, so I didn't bother :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Arcadia310:
Im currently on the sense rom so if i install this could i revert my phone back to stock?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rhcp011235:
Thanks for the post.

I've been looking for a stock kernel as well. Thats flash-able.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] wilnotdie:
I havent tried it but.. You would have to revert to stock, using the other guide. Then flash this to remove the clockworkmod recovery.

That should be all stock, if im not mistaken.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Arcadia310:
What guide are you talking about?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] funkeee:
Odd. My phone did not come with a recovery. I got it the Oct 3rd from RadioShack, so maybe that's why. When I tried to enter recovery from fastboot, it would give me a screen with a warning triangle and needed a battery pull. That's why I was wondering what in the world the stock recovery was.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] -Maverick-:
NO, your phone most certainly had a stock recovery, you just didn't press the Volume Up and Power button at the same time when your phone got to the "warning triangle". If you'd done that you would have gotten to the recovery menu. :p ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] wilnotdie:
The guide to Downgrade from OTA to Stock.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Acid_Wir3:
So if ever I brick my phone on doing the perm root process I could use this to go back to stock?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] s0xpan:
not necessarily; BUT if ur softbricked, you can enter fastboot, put on the stock recovery; and in theory do a system wipe, and you could be fine?

Havent tested though
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jijus:
i have tried permroot using visionary and got stuck at htc logo so i tried this and below is the result i get any ideas please

C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>fastboot flash recovery C:\recovery.img

sending 'recovery' (4652 KB)... OKAY [ 0.872s]

writing 'recovery'... INFOsignature checking...

FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)

finished. total time: 1.358s
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fastludeh22:
Going by that error, I'm gonna assume your still s-on. You might want to start here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=842495

Read the whole thing, but at least have the answers to the 2nd post before posting up you question.

Also, nothing against paul or any maker of the apps that do stuff like this, but really all this rooting/rom flashing stuff needs to be done the manual way. Apps mess up sometimes and could put you in a bad spot. At least if you did it manually you would know what you did wrong, and hopefully catch it before you reboot.

You might also want to post in the visionary thread as maybe these guys know of a fix for whatever the app is doing.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dollar50:
Where would you place this img. file? In the "backups" under the "clockwork" file of the sdcard? Or somewhere else?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] wilnotdie:
Depends.

If you want to install it through fastboot, then you place it anywhere on your computer (preferably, in the same folder as fastboot)

boot into hboot, or bootloader, select fastboot...then type from within your computers terminal

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

___

If you want to install it through your phones terminal emulator, than place it on your sd card somewhere (preferably, in the root of the card)

then open up terminal emulator, type

su

(to get root access than type)

dd if=/sdcard/recovery.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p21

__

Now, I dont know exactly how RomManger works, but in theory you could replace the file (/sdcard/clockworkmod/download/koush.tandtgaming.com/recoveries/recover-clockwork-2.5.1.2-vision.img)

with this img file. you probably have to rename the stock image file to that of the clockwork file.

and of course, through rom manager, select flash clockwork recovery. If it doesnt work, you will still have clockwork recovery in case anything goes wrong.

__

If im not mistaken, that should do it.

goodluck.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fastludeh22:
@willnotdie. That all sounds pretty much right. Not to sure about the rom manager way, but it does sound like it should work.

My question is why would anyone want to do this? If you follow the unroot guide, which explains the PROPER way to flash the pc10img, then you would be all stock, including recovery.

Flashing this isn't gonna help anyone in any other way. In fact if you have a semi-brick your trying to save, this will only make things harder to recover as we don't have htc private keys, and stock recovery blocks adb, so at that point recovery becomes pretty useless...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] j.books:
agreed, I can't think of any reason you would need or want to flash this
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dollar50:
I install CM 6.1.0-RC1. But the call and contact activity doesn't respond on the home page. What should I do? Before trying the Term. Emul. method.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] wilnotdie:
Yeah I have no idea why they would....besides wanting to do everything manually, the unroot guide is best. Just tossing out the info, in case someone is looking for quick reference.

what are you trying to do?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dollar50:
Make phone calls. Crazy. I can't make calls and the phone. If I try to go to my contact icon is says, "Could not launch the requested activity". And the same for the phone icon. And couldn't receive calls either.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fastludeh22:
Are you using launcher pro? Sounds like u did a restore and its looking for an app that is different. If this is the case you just need to remake that shortcut.

If this isn't the case you need to post in cm's thread, this isn't the place. If you can't figure it out, just flash one of my stock w/root roms.

Btw-did you flash the gaps after you flashed cm?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dollar50:
I am using launcher pro. And thank you for the stock rom. Just trying to get more info before I go any further. Sorry I know that this isn't the place but; did I flash the gaps after I flashed CM? No. I was thinking of put the stock rom back after the "backup" didn't "backup" correctly. Clockwork restore give me a MD5 mismatch message when I choose that option. I know the majority if the senior member of this forum are very knowledgeable of all Roms and Andriod devices. So, I thought I would ask. If you would be so kind as to point be in the direction I need to go from here, everyones time has been greatly appreciated. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] AndroidNoober:
Im having this problem the recovery thing, I tried but nothing happens... any idea how to fix this?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] CB620:
im getting a failed everytime i use adb my device is visible but i cant get it to flash recovery. i need stock to run PSFREEDOM
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nooge9:
is this for G2 only? I have Bell Desire Z (Canada)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rand0m_insanity:
A little question. I have an asian DZ, with version 1.34.707.5. Anyway, I really want to do a perm-root, but want to have a "safety net" to fall back on if ever some issues arise, I could revert back to the said version.

My question is, do stock recoveries have "versions" as well? If so, which version is this?

I plan to root, get S-OFF, do a nandroid, then flash away. If an issue comes up and I have to send to HTC, I would simply unroot, flash my nandroid backup, then flash this recovery. Does that make any sense? Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] witm01:
@rand0m_insanity: all you need to do to revert to s-off unrooted is this (assuming you used gfree to perm-root and get true radio s-off):

1. run gfree again to revert to s-on (this swaps just a single bit in the radio config)

2. flash a full untouched htc rom

This should replace everything including hboot and recovery and will revert your phone into a pristine factory condition.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rand0m_insanity:
Thanks for the reply, but the problem is, I cannot find a "full untouched" ROM (1.34.707.5) anywhere. So I was wondering if a nandroid backup would suffice in place of that "untouched" ROM.

So before unrooting, I would flash back my nandroid backup, then unroot process, then flash this stock recovery.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] witm01:
@rand0m_insanity: you find original roms both here on the forums as well as here:

http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Vision

As long as your phone was unbranded, it doesn't have to be the exact same version you had on there initially. A nandroid restore would of course also suffice but you would have to restore first and then unroot, not the other way round as you wrote originally: restore, revert to stock recovery, s-off, unroot.

If you also put the engineering hboot on your device, that will have to be replaced too. I'd do that after recovery and before s-off.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rand0m_insanity:
Thank you so much. :) That was all I needed. I guess I will be flashing ROMs this coming weekend.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] imakul8:
Thanks, just what I needed. Now I can fully charge my battery while powered off. When I want to flash another rom or whatever I can just flash clockwork recovery with Rom Manager.:D
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RUbernerd:
I am trying to root my MyTouch Slide ex-post ota, which puts ESPRIMG.zip to the sd card, and when it loads it fails saying "Main version is older". What am I doing wrong? I followed the link here from google, and all the other things worked.
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fermunky:
Which specific method did you try? I suggest using the latest found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=754020
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreggoryD502:
I just flashed bionix final rom and its awesome. How ever I want the blue segmented battery icon. It says to flash thru clockwork on the instructions. I tried to install it the same way I installed the rom ,but it didnt work. Can someone help me with this? Thanks guys.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] torvick12:
Have we gotten any good app that we could take screenshot of our screen but phone for it not 2 be rooted and in any app we using. Cause all we have is jst take screenshot of our home screen :/ i want 2 take screenshots of some messages and other stuff like that like iphone has. If so plz let me know n provide us the link would appreciate it, really looking forward for an app like this :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] RavenWulf:
Personally I use screenshot by gik soft, using time delay you can switch back to what screen you are wanting capture by long pressing the home button before it does the snap shot, also the timer is adjustable. App is in the market
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] torvick12:
yeah but has 2 be rooted ;/ n im looking for a app that is not rooted. so yeahh but thanks either way
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] RavenWulf:
no problem... not to be rude but had you mentioned not being rooted in your OP, I wouldn't have suggested the app.
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] torvick12:
yeah i know srry it was my bad but thanks either way
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] tylernol:
I'm new here and I just rooted my phone, but before I did, I was successful at using screenshot with the shake phone feature. Give it a try!
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] saynotopunx:
Shootme works with rooted or unrooted MyTouch Slide
[myTouch 3G Slide Themes and Apps] SefEXE:
Oh, did they change it back? I know it worked before it got updated, and then it said it needed root.

Hadn't used it again until I just rooted the other day.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Sc0pEz:
OK, so got a nice shiny new Europa/i5500 today...

Yea, as you can imagine the first thing on the list was rooting. Done.

Not much you can do with just a root so thought to hell with it time to start poking around.

ADB has issues, cant remount from command line so it needs doing by adb shell > su.

mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system

dd if=/sdcard/busybox of=/system/bin/busybox
chmod 4755 /system/bin/busybox
mkdir /data/busybox
/system/bin/busybox --install -s /system/bin/

Busybox sorted!

But now what is there?

Had a poke around and there seems to only be one thread regarding the phone (which tbh is quite nippy considering its size and has some potential).

Doe's anybody have any sort of information on building custom roms from AOSP for this? What kind of drivers need to be sorted?

I hate to think that the most we will ever do to this little gem is custom themes since for it's size it is a damn impressive bit of kit as far as my experience has been so far...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Sc0pEz:
:Update:

I wasn't keen on the apps drawer not being alphabetised so tried pushing TouchWizz30Launcher.apk from Vibrant which was suggested for for the Fascinate and it works perfect, heads up for anyone else who has this niggle.

Apps2SD also works fine but had to partition SD using PC since no parted available on phone...

Strike that, Market Icon is now missing from AppDrawer... reverting back to stock lol
[Focus General] t0y0da:
The contact pics and info are syncing just fine. When I go into view my pictures is when I do not see the pictures I have uploaded to facebook and windows live. It was working when I had my memory card in but have had some issues with it and now am not using the sd card and have done a format. I am on my wifi and I have removed and re-entered my fb info but it still will not sync my pics. Its been several hours anyone have this issue or know a fix?

Thanks.
[Focus General] Seed 2.0:
Ive noticed the live tiles take some time to get going, but once they start they keep on rolling. It took about 5-8 hours for the weather, Zune and picture tiles to start updating on the start screen, this morning I woke up to my Zune, weather, pictures, and people tiles looking different.
[Focus General] t0y0da:
Resolved

I was on the phone with ATT after i found the I was not able to send or receive mms. They had me reset the phone and then i was able to get mms and it started pulling facebook pics again.
[Fascinate Android Development] Bigredcat:
Wow, do you ever take a breather in between all of your updates? I just got done flashing .6.

Any differences from .6 to 1.0?
[Fascinate Android Development] sonofskywalker3:
haha. well i did stop for dinner. But seriously things will slow down now that i've lept my first hurdle. next step is to find a better hosting solution than dropbox.

the only changes are that I added back lcdtest.apk because without it the screen won't auto shutoff, and the networklocation.apk because it is necessary for gps. also i removed launcherpro since now that it's on ROM Manager you can choose which launcher you want.
[Fascinate Android Development] Bigredcat:
I havent had any issues with the lcd not shuting off on .6. Also I dont care about the gps, so I will stick with the .6 version for now.
[Fascinate Android Development] em.Tea:
quick question, do we have to wipe if were coming from 0.5 to 1.0?
[Fascinate Android Development] Sgtmack:
Blackmod enhanced seems to be broken. I get a corrupted zip error when downloading.

But the the S in the notification dropdown is cool!
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
Awesome job.

Loving it.

Need another option or two though. Gallery (Stock or AOSP), Email.apk...(Oh! Evolution font. Can't live without it...)

Also, blackmod download seems to be corrupted. (fixed... go to bed, dammit!) ;)

Car Home is installing instead of ROM manager when ROM Manager is selected... tried it twice. Links might be fubar'd. No ROM Manager apk in /system/apps.

Yaup. Watched the install... It installs mesmerize_carhome. :p

Loving it so far. Keep it up! (and get some actual work done too :p)
[Fascinate Android Development] justin94:
I'm about to hit the install button. One quick question. I'm coming from the stock Tom running voodoo v2... currently disabled... should I remove it, and do I have to wipe data and cache?
[Fascinate Android Development] bL33d:
hmmf i might try this if it actually has gallery and contacts now?
[Fascinate Android Development] cynikalJ:
ok so I installed this rom from rom manager and now I can't boot into recovery through the rom manager, nor can I install another rom. anybody got any ideas

Edit, fixed it, wasn't under su
[Fascinate Android Development] thatoneguy1983:
I'm about to give this a try, very excited about freeing up memory and extending the battery life. One question: is it possible to make vcast video work this? I'm one of the weirdos that pays $10/month (for the nfl and the office). I've had trouble with just about every custom rom I've tried.

Thanks for your work!
[Fascinate Android Development] justin94:
Where is the gallery..... I love everything about this rom

Edit. I found an app called justpictures, a little slow but gets the job done.

USB settings doesn't work. Is fcs the android process
[Fascinate Android Development] Thrillhouse847:
I just checked this out on Rom Manager and saw how it works (selecting all of the custom elements) and I think it's a fantastic idea, especially if more options are continually added.

Thanks for the great work, keep it up.
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
Noticed the fc as well. No big, everything still seems to work. As for the gallery, just grab the stock gallery or gallery3d.apk from any of the other roms out there. (download, extract, copy gallery apk file to /system/apps and reboot)