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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkoroje:
What is really depressing is instead of us all trying to put some pressure on Samsung to come clean about the GPS we are fighting between ourselves. Why do people whose GPS is working fine insist on continual posting on this forum claiming that there is no GPS problem ? Why defend Samsung when even many independent reviews mention that GPS is not working right ? I don't get it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
For one, this is XDA dev's forum, not anything official to samsung or anything. For one, I have to use another soft (TrackerBooster) to get the thing right, but then, with it, it's better than my old HTC Vogue, but I can start as many thread or as many survey here, it will mostly not go to samsung's. So rather than helping a "cause", I'll anoy everyone on a forum dedicated to developping and pushing the enveloppe. I'm pretty sure that most developpers won't even look at a thread with "GPS" in it because they know it's nothing worth it (developper / Fixer wyse)

If you really want Samsung to react to this "issue", you should at least try to get their attention the right way and not constatly brag to people that can't do squat on the issue!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
There is absolutely no science behind trackerbooster.

When you launch an app such as mytracks (and start recording), the GPS stays ON all the time.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
Science or not, it works. Isn't that the ultimate goal?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
I also heard that voodoo magic can make the GPS works.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
Maybe it's just good intentions after all, who knows, maybe I'm a born again christian and our lord made my GPS go from this:

http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Embed/722309?key=c42495263cd2882440f3814aba3e82a48552b1c5&ms=0

To This:

http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Embed/756178?key=125208533cc673cdcb1aae6c0838bc56cd6a87c1&ms=0

Maybe the ultimate GPS fix is to convert to the right god? You think it could help?

:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
One day I when running with my Galaxy S and a red T-shirt. The track was just fine.

The next day, I went running with a blue T-Shirt. The track was garbage.

Therefore, a blue T-Shirt is clearly a fix for the GPS problem.

By the way your two tracks look similar to me. In both cases you are running over houses.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkoroje:
You post is a perfect example of what I was talking about.

The irony of it is that you yourself say that you have to use track booster to get GPS to work - an application that 99% users of this phone have never heard about and have no clue that it exists.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
What is this? Prude GPS purist group?

It's a fix, it works fine after, why the hell should I not use it? Because it's not "all motor"?

Before I used the apps, I simply told myself "If the thing doesn't work by time XXX, I'll get another one". But I like about everything from it, so I'd rather keep it. So guess what, I've played around and tested a lot around, now it works fine, so I'm keeping it. I'd rather do that than wait after a fix from samsung or Bell.

Get thing working or get something that works, that's it...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eaglesteve:
The GPS problem is really severe. In my case, after the position is locked, it randomly jumps all over the place, sometimes 10 Km away and causes erroneous route recalculation. The camera application also uses GPS to tag the location, and some of my pictures taken in Sydney Australia show them as being taken in the east coast of Africa!

Unfortunately, my request to return the unit after about 10 days of use was flatly refused. I paid penalty to terminate my contract to get an iPhone 4 which is far better in every way except the smaller screen size. I could take legal action but it's simply not worth the trouble, unless a class action is initiated against Samsung.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] belayson:
How does the desire hd have better specs? the galaxy s has a better screen, better music and video player, better gpu, better cpu, htc makes crappy cameras so regardless of the megapixel count the galaxy s has a better camera. The desire hd only has screen size (and with that a much larger body), made with better materials, flash (which is only useful within 1 feet of the target) and htcs software is generally more stable. Thats about it, and weighing in that, the sgs seems to be an overall better phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whiteb1:
Wow, App name ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fredjm31:
As I started the thread, I'll try to stop it (if possible).

1) I find curious that people having a working GPS try to convince the others they are wrong

2) I have seen no thread like that about HTC desire or desire HD

So, I think there is really a GPS problem and won't go for a Galaxy S, but an HTC desire HD, or more probably a desire to save some money.

Thank you every body.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bynar010:
1. Yeah bizarre isn't it. Its like being locked in a room with someone trying to tell me creationism is fact and I should ignore all the facts of evolution.

2. You do right, if you need a guaranteed working gps avoid the sgs. Wish I was in your shoes.

:o(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
I decided to give you a chance and try trackerbooster.

Look what it did to my GPS :

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?ie=UT...048,-71.262131&spn=0.014135,0.042272&t=h&z=15

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?ie=UT....781019,-71.263332&spn=0.014136,0.042272&z=15

Two of the worst walking track I ever had.

trackerbooster does absolutly nothing. I hope noone will ever pronounce the trackerbooster myth again.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skifaster007:
Froyo upgrade has made a big improvement. Lets keep the problem in perspective.

Iphone 4 issues - cracked screens, constant reboot bug in software, signal loss,

Galaxy S issues - slight lag (very slight on froyo), slight GPS problem (only seriously affecting those who log running / sports tracks.

I know which I would rather have
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fredjm31:
It's rather because I want to get working every thing I paid for (including the GPS).

Ouaouh. Were you trying the alcoholic fix ? Sorry for that nojoke.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eaglesteve:
I've heard of higher incidence of cracked screen but the constant reboot bug is unheard of. Signal strength of iPhone 4 is way way superior to any of the previous iPhone in my experience. The pentaband has certainly extended the 3G coverage in Australia and Telstra's test confirmed it has exceptional signal performance and gave it the coveted blue tick award http://www.ijohny.com/home/2010/7/3...wards-iphone-4-blue-tick-for-superior-re.html

The GPS issue in SGS is severe. I can't use my golf range finder application, for example. My photo taken in Australua wad given a location in Africa. The performance is not a little laggy. It is very very laggy for some applications such as newsfeed applications that I used.

GPS problem is extremely severe, basically making it useless. My golf range finder is completely useless as a way to find the distance to the green, for example.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oletros:
:D:D:D

If you don't like reality, invent it
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkoroje:
Interesting a new user with only one post so far posting obviously false information. I am wondering more and more if Samsung has some paid PR people on this forum.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Y Ddraig Goch:
Some people have great GPS, some do not. I am one of the lucky ones that has a good working GPS.

It works fine in the car.

It works fine when I'm out walking.

It just works.

Some people clearly have issues (GPS or other ;-))

The folk that have issuse should take them up with their supplier. The simple fact is that there are many Samsung Galaxy S phones out there with good GPS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eaglesteve:
The fact is they refuse to allow return despite the consumer protection law. Samsung is not Apple that cares about user after the good is sold.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milsjg:
Yes I totally agree. I mean that "rubber ring" and the instruction on how to hold the phone was one of the best custom care moves I ever seen done by a phone company. SGS should learn from Apple and send every owner of a SGS a miniature world map so people do not get lost.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Y Ddraig Goch:
Samsung is not Apple that cares about user after the good is sold

I guess you missed the whole iPhone 4 antenna joke then?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bilboa1:
wow and i though my gps was bad xD

trackerbooster does 1 thing btw, some apps dont keep the gps alive when the screen dims. trackbooster forces that. but it doesnt help the accuracy etc etc.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkoroje:
Apple has officially acknowledged the issue and has given everyone a free case and allowed everyone to return the phone should they wish to do so. Samsung on the other hand claims that there is nothing wrong with GPS and is not allowing returns so all the posts saying "just return the phone" are not realistic.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
Actually, Apple didn't acknowledge the issue.. In fact, originally, they lied and told everyone the problem was due to a software bug. Steve Jobs stood on stage and made a bold lie.

The only reason why Apple rectified the situation later, was because, everyone knew it was a lie, and it was starting to go frontpage of EVERY newspaper (clearly Steve Jobs thought that the world would believe him, or they wanted to clear stock of the iPhones without the fix first).

Regardless, after finally admitting the truth, Steve Jobs THEN proceeds to step up and stage, and tell everyone the problem is common throughout the industry. The evidence of course DOES prove it, but in some of some cases, it was impractical to cause the problem on some of the phones used in the examples, whereas the iPhone's problem could easily be caused when the user was left handed.

Don't put Apple up on a Pedestal. Both companies could deal with the situations better, and neither deserves any rewards for customer communication.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maesebit:
Actually, the apple free case does solve the antenna problem on iPhone 4. So, at least Apple user do get a effective fix. In the case they don't like the solution they can always return the phone.

Samsung, however, doesn't offer user any options. Neither a working fix nor the chance to return the phone.

I'm not an Apple fan. You only need to be realistic and not a fanboy to realize that Samsung's costumer care is awful compared to Apple, and compared to many other companys.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seltaeb:
THIS.

The only reason the GPS / lag issues are not in the news is because unlike Apple products nobody really cares about the Galaxy S (besides people on forums like this).
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eaglesteve:
Before in had my iPhone 4 I thought that there was an antenna issue. After having it I no longer think so. Antenna of iPhone 4 is really very very good in my own experience. GPS signal fully locked and maintains accuracy in less than 3 seconds. 3G data strength rather than Edge even in remote areas. Does not drop call even once. Funny thing is Apple was still forced to give away the bumper although I could it naked without any issue. This only goes to show in my mind that Apple really care about customer satisfaction and was ore pared to give away the bumper although in reality antenna does not cause problem in real life use. Apple also allow return if people are still not happy.

In contrast, Samsung doesn't even acknowledge the problem, and simply refuse to take the piece if **** back and refund the customers.

To say that both companies are equally good and bad is pure rubbish. Samsung dies not come remotely close to Apple in dealing with issues.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neil85ae86:
that says it all right their
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] milsjg:
So when you now owns an Iphone 4 why do you keep trolling in the SGS forum? Should you not go to the Iphone forum and complain about the iPhone instead?

Did you read this in July?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/apple-iphone-4-reception-problems-a-software-issue-fix-coming/

Is that good customer care?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
Exactly. Google Maps, for example, won't leave the GPS on when screen is off.

All apps that actually use the GPS when the screen is off (Google Navigation, My Tracks, etc.) keep the GPS on all the time so there is no need for trackerbooster.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
I'll probably try a run without it to see if it's "ok".

Yesterday, I went out and did a test with MyTracks W/O trackerBooster on a denser area (I live in region, so I tought it might be related to this). Still, good results. I don't know what happeneds with my device but since, it's pretty good

http://www.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...6.794308,-71.29554&spn=0.005039,0.009012&z=17

(seeing your tracks, I can tell we live in the same region, I'll try it out when I get around Ste-Foy)

Only thing I changed since (with sportypal) is the way the device was in my pocket. Now I always put the screen facing inward, so antenna is always facing outside)

If you really tought they where no issue *at all* with the GPS and bought the device despite the fact that numerous users have issues, without testing it by yourself and while thinking you'd use it like any standalone GPS welll... you're on your own on this one! Don't blame anyone else for your actions!

When I bought this device, I did while thinking GPS migh be an issue and the sound on live recording (like show or the similar) might be problematic, so I knew I might need to get a bluetooth GPS and an external microphone. All devices have issue, but (for me), the hardware and the performance of the SGS outrun thoses two issues waaayyyy!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eaglesteve:
I complain when there is an issue. I can understand some people feel upset when negative comments regarding their beloved phone are raised and try it shoot it down by calling such comments trolling. However, thousands have Bern misled into buying this piece of **** because most people don't bother complaining.

The signal representation, not strength per se was the issue addressed by the iPhone firmware. I thought you would know that already.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkoroje:
Please let us try and avoid turning this thread into a slugfest. Galaxy is not a "piece of ****" it is a good phone with one big flaw (for me) and that is GPS. There is also lag but that can be fixed with one of the many lagfixes.

In terms of customer support, I have both an iPhone 4 and a Galaxy and in my experience Apple customer support is far superior. Unfortunately Samsung has a track record of poor customer support.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eaglesteve:
:-)

Sorry . Still upset that they refused to let me return the phone without penalty.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ehe12:
why not? If you have problem with your phone, go and ask them to replace it,as i did. This second replacement is still not good for me. I'm getting a third one for sure...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkoroje:
Because the shop is saying that if there is a fault with the phone it is up to Samsung to fix it, and Samsung is saying that as far as they know there is no problem with GPS. I can send the phone for repair but that would mean being without the phone for weeks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
I don't know where you live, but in canada, all services are trough the reseller. If I where you, I'd go back to the reseller and DEMAND it to be exchanged.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
The problem is that you can't get an exchange after 30 days. Of course, during the first 30 days they will tell you to try this an that just to make you loose your time until the first 30 days have passed. Try software X. Maybe it was cloudy. Try it again. There will be a patch next week fixing that. 30 days is very easy to pass.

Then you need to send it for repair (that's what I did). It came back with the exact same problem. Samsung told me that I need to send it for repair TWO MORE TIMES before they give me an other solution. That means 2 more months without my phone and at least 2h (seriously) at the Bell store trying to explain to an idiot my story and why I want them to send my phone to repair even if I know that it won't be repaired.

So during the repair time what did I do? I bought a second Galaxy S, brand new. It had the exact same problem. I returned it while I still could. But I still have a non-working Galaxy S and no support is helpful. Both Samsung and Bell don't know what they are talking about. A Samsung rep told me that there was no GPS in the Galaxy S! A Bell rep told me that all smartphones had an imprecise GPS and that it is normal. An other Bell rep told me that they get their info about problems browsing forums and blog sites!!! No wonder why we get random service according to what rumors did the rep read the day before. And this is why I hate when people post things such as "the GPS is now fixed by doing XXXXXX" because some Bell rep will read it and think that the GPS is fixed even if it isn't.

****ty customer service everywhere.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
In Canada, you're entitled to a refund for a device considered as non fonctionning as intended. Call consumer protection office for how to do it / proceed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
They will say that I paid $150 for my device so they will refund only $150. I will still have a contract for 2.75 years.

Anyways I don't want a refund I want a working Galaxy S. But maybe you are right that I should contact consumer protection. But still, having to contact consumer protection to get what I pay for means that the service is really really bad.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bynar010:
Yep, samsung are denying theres a problem to me as well. Claiming google maps navigation is only accurate to 100m and that I should download alternative navigation software if I want pin point accuracy!! Excuse me but this is the same company that marketed the phone on the back of google maps navigation!

What a bunch of jokers. Samsung will get no money from me ever again.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dekman:
Take the $150 go buy a galaxy elsewhere and start your 30 day period over. Buy it on your credit card incase you need to do a chargeback. Or skip all the hassle and get the Desire Z. I went through 5 Galaxy S phones Coma Problems, non functioning gps. Desire Z has its own problems but it never comas/locks up and the GPS rivals my Garmin xxl for accurracy.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
Well, basically, if they refund you they will have to cancel the contract also, call consumer protection they'll guide you to it if you want to.

Just for the record, how did you put the phone when you recorded theses tracks? As I stated before, I used to have massive inacuracy (also) but since I put it in a certain way in my pocket I don't have theses kind of issue. Can you try to record a track walking around for 30 min. with the phone's back facing outside and upside down?

Do you have an extra case?

What rom are you running?

What is the date on the Battery?

Since your stuck with it, might as well try some things out eh!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
Well, when walking/running/cycling the phone is usually in my pocket, without any extra case (I don't have one). I also had the GPS problem when in my car. I have a windshield mount (fits for all smartphones).

My Hero works just fine both in my pocket (when cycling/walking) and my car.

Running stock JH2. The phone was bought in the end of August but I can't tell you the date on the battery right now.

I may or may not try your trick of holding it face down, I am not sure yet, but I don't expect much, especially since you believed in trackerbooster, sorry. As I already said there are too many of these pseudo "fixes" for me to try them all. Wake me up when one is proven working. In the mean time we should all unite and ask Samsung/Bell (in our case) for a real solution. It won't be possible if people continue to say that there is no problem with the GPS (a la Steve Jobs "you are holding it wrong")

By the way, first you told me that trackerbooster solved your GPS problem and now its the way your put it in your pocket???
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
Well I have a good contract that I don't want to give up.

And I also tried a second Galaxy S already. It had the same problem.

Anyways you understand that I can't just "take this $150", I will have to fill legal threats, send tons of letters etc. to get it? It is probably easier to get a replacement. For this I "only" have to spend maybe 2h and loose my phone for 2 months. Then I "only" have to fax (oh yes, I will need to find a fax) samsung the proof that I sent my phone 3 times for repair and that it wasn't fixed, as well as the copy of my purchase. Then maybe, if I am lucky, they will change my phone for a new one. All this for something like ~80% chances to get a phone which is just as defective as mine.

Desire Z is good but I don't like it as much as the Galaxy S, save the GPS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daikenas08:
sygic seems to fix this, i don't know if we should it, its has a price ticket of €70

but if it works why can they fix it we should also be able

not?

can't post the link with information cause i'm a new user :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigsmoke2319:
Galaxy is the best phone u can get so get it gps is fine bo problems at all u wont regret it
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
This is called "troubleshooting", you have proven me wrong on the TrackerBooster, but since I've tryed so many things, one of it must have worked since I used to have the problem. So I'm trying hypthesis for others to try out. Surely one of it has worked for me, might as well work for someone else.

Let me enumerate my history:

-First device I got had an issue with the USB plug. I've exchanged it for another one.

-Second device had sharktooth with SportyPal on my firts run

-I've hard reset the device (Erased all with *2767*3855# ) I Have NOT installed any lag fix nor rooted on first (only rooted as of now)

-Erased all data with the Power+Home+Volume Up

-changed some things on LbsTestMode apps settings (this is supposed to only affect first fix)

-Changed FQDN to auto (This is sopposed to only affect first fix)

-tryed tracekr booster (this apparently is of no use)

-changed the way the device is standing in my pocket; when running, it was screen facing outward, in "portrait" on my pant's pocket. Now it's upside down, still in portrait and screen is facing toward me

-I always uses the case, mesh type like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110563637842&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

No screen protector, just this case

Now it work pretty good, better than my HTC Vogue used to

Date on the battery is 21st Sept. 2010 and 09/10 on the device
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorxd:
OK fine. Let say I will try this for running/cycling.

But what about in my car? I will certainly not put my phone upside down since it would make it very difficult to read text :P
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
That's for sure!

Don't realy know for this part :S
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oletros:
And how sygic can fix google maps or layar?