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[Desire HD General] ale0crysis:
Galaxy S for form factor, display Super Amoled best ever seen, because 10 millions people have it now and more and more will have later and will have the best support ever (XDA rulez, and if you see now there are some ROM which make it incredible fast and no lagg or crash, even better than Nexus One)

Than you can wait for Nexus Two

You will spend less to have the best in market now.
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Why cant people just look in the freaking forum or use the search bar,theres already a thread about this..
[Desire HD General] anoniem:
Don't have all those problems no lagging no occasionally reboots.. crashes on market are true but not anymore now I can download and install all apps want fluently..

The sim cover is indeed a little bit of poor quality but I use a silicone case which compensate it.

truly, the design of the sim cover is good as it allows quick access to your SD and sim without having to remove the battery.

And about the battery... if you use your phone correct then there is no need to remove the battery.

Camera is perfect for stills in all conditions (yes also in the dark, due the dual-LED flash) Recording mode is good in good conditions but in the dark you can record while the dual-LED flash light is still on.. the quality isn't that perfect but it is good for me...
[Desire HD General] novanab:
I am reeeeally hoping to see a Nexus Two or Nexus S as some call it at the Samsung event tomorrow, but some sources say that it is being delayed due to a hardware issue so is it worth the wait lol?
[Desire HD General] ale0crysis:
no those are bullshits, don't worry :D

Gingerbread is coming and google + samsung will be announced very soon, remember of gingerbread in googleplex

best Hardware (Samsung) + best software Android (Google) = OWNZ
[Desire HD General] novanab:
If that is in fact true then I will be ssoooo god damn happy lol .... I think god watches over me or something coz i was so dedicated of buying a samsung galaxy s or DHD yeterday, but whenever I wherever I looked they either had a complication or they were out of stock... I think thats a sign to wait until Nov 8th lol I swear xD
[Desire HD General] ale0crysis:
11 November :D
[Desire HD General] novanab:
11 Nov Gingerbread release or the Nexus S release? But if it was the nexus S release then why would they bother making 2 events 3 days apart wouldn't it be more logical to announce everything on one day?
[Desire HD General] oldskool73:
I had to make this choice a couple of weeks ago and went for the HD, not regretting it at all.

I'm not noticing any of the 'downsides' mentioned here (slowdowns, reboots etc).

True the battery and sim covers are fiddly and spoil the initial unboxing experience as you need to open them both to get your device working, but once you've got them back on (which there's a knack to) you need never touch them again and the rest of the phones build quality is excellent, the SGS felt very plastic to me when I tried it out.

Put it this way, my Steve Jobs worshiping flatmate said it's as good as his iPhone 4 which is a BIG admission from him... almost had a tear in his eye as he said it :)
[Desire HD General] kafkatamura:
I sold my SGS for DHD

I sold my SGS and got the DHD.

Now I wonder It wasnt really necessary. Screen on Galaxy S is really awesome.

DHD's screen is good. very crisp text but not as good as Super Amoled.

Speakers on Galaxy S is nice on the other hand speakars are just pure pathetic on DHD. I cant hear a while playing youtube videos. You have to uses the headphone.

I think problem with the camera on DHD is software issue. Needs upgrading. To be honest 5 MP SGS takes better picture than DHD in a well lit environment.

To make things clear. Issues with DHD.

1. Awful speakers

2.Bad camera software (hope its not hardware)

3. Battery and sim lid could have been better but ok for me.

4. Flash videos are laggy. ( Was better on SGS after the last Froyo update)

Now things to consider to get DHD-

1.Living on the fast lane (lol 1600+ score on quadrant)

2. big screen (black level not as good as SGS)

3. Feels solid than SGS. Good build except as mentioned above.

3. HTC sense.com experience. ( really good)

4.More frequent update than Samsung.

So cant think of anything for the time being :p
[Desire HD General] MK365:
Also had to make this choice.

I simply held both phones in either hand, the DHD felt like it was worth something, the SGS felt like it was worth £140 + £10 top up on PAYG.

The SGS is a brilliant phone, but its light, plastic and feels cheaply made - it doesn't have that premium feel you want your nice new expensive phone to have ;)

And the DHD screens a monster, all my iPhone 4 friends love playing Angry Birds on the mammoth screen.
[Desire HD General] novanab:
I guess it's settled then... Unless Samsung comes out with the Nexus S in the near future I will be getting the DHD. Thank you guys for helping me !!!
[Desire HD General] ste1164:
Just get an iphone 4 best phone ever desire hd and galaxy s are terrible ;D
[Desire HD General] vimto25:
Dreaded iPhones lol
[Desire HD General] BigMango:
Last week Samsung confirmed that the rumors were not true, they are not making a Nexus Two.
[Desire HD General] ste1164:
They did? Where did you here this?
[Desire HD General] BigMango:
Yes, Samusung denied it on November 1st (2 or 3 days after a few sites reported that the N2 was real on Oct. 28). Just search google for "Samsung denies nexus two", it was all over the web since Nov. 1st.

The rumored N2 is in reality a Verizon mobile phone.

http://www.samsunghub.com/2010/11/01/samsung-denies-nexus-two-phone-rumor/

http://www.fonearena.com/blog/25729/samsung-samsung-nexus-two-rumors-are-simply-not-true.html

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/11/01/samsung-nexus-two-rumors-are-simply-not-true/

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2010/11/03/samsung-nexus-two-rumors-turn-out-to-be-a-verizon-android-phone/
[Desire HD General] novanab:
If they are denying it that does not mean that they are not going to release one on Nov 8th, Gizmodo stated that one of their sources was able to get a hold of the Nexus Two. And honestly I believe Gizmodo the most out of all other sites. I think there is no doubt the phone will be coming out, the real question is when. If not Nov 8th then it will most likely come out whenever Gingerbread is out.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see :D
[Desire HD General] slateac:
The Nexus Two rumors are both true and untrue

The rumor that it is releasing on Nov 8 or 11 isn't true, this is an event by Samsung to announce Verizon Phones and the Samsung Continuum.

The rumor of it actually existing is true, Gizmodo have sources that already had a quick handson, PCMag knows it exists, and TechCrunch are saying it's delayed due to technical/hardware issues, which is supposedly why Samsung denied the rumors because it is still not ready for announcement. But overall, all these sites are pretty reputable and reliable. So I might just wait out for any official announcement.

Back on topic:

Pros of SGS: Super AMOLED, Hummingbird (Arguable)

Cons of SGS: Poor Build Quality, less likely to get updates first

Pros of DHD: Bigger Screen, Better Build quality, HTCSense (Arguable)

Cons of DHD: Several issues such as bugs/battery cover
[Desire HD General] deli_gt:
Returned my DHD and got SGS instead and am perfectly happy now.

DHD is only good in papers(specs).

DHD has the worst loudspeaker ever.

It's heavy as rock.

BATTERY LIFE SUX ass.

HTC have FAILED again like previous Touch HD.

All the things you need from proper PHONE sux on DHD.

GO with the mighty SGS and you wont regret your decision.

SGS has plastic back but otherwise the design is perfect.

I wont even notice it in my pocket until if it rings with it's bad ass realy LOUD loudspeaker.
[Desire HD General] jords12:
DHD bugs? how about the SGS gps, which still doesn't work properly?
[Desire HD General] ale0crysis:
You are wrong, samsung deny on 8 november there will be not any nexus two but they are creating it with google, gizmodo confirmed this and if you know they don't say bullshits, the preview of iphone4 is the proof..
[Desire HD General] BigMango:
What you are forgetting is that Apple didn't deny the iphone 4 rumors. Furthermore, Gizmodo has also been wrong with other rumors like the iphone 3 OS in the past.

Web sites spreading rumors to get traffic is nothing new. Especially since everyone knows that android 2.3 is comming out and it would be time for a new Nexus. These kinds of sites start rumors based on beleivable assumptions, like everyone knows Apple is releasing a new iphone update every year, so its easy to start a rumors. They are taking chances the rumors might become true.

And when eveyone sees they are wrong they usually say its delayed due to a hardware problem, etc... We have seen this countless times in the past. This is only done to generate traffic and traffic is money. This is what these guys are living of.

Samsung didn't deny the GS rumors before it was released. They didn't deny the Galaxy Tab.

HTC didn't deny the DHD rumors.

etc.... when something is true they ussually don't deny it, they just don't say anything.

But on November 1st Samsung officially said they are NOT making a Nexus Two. So, we can be sure that we won't be seeing a Nexus 2 from Samsung in the short term.

After an official statement like this one I am certainly not basing my hopes on chances one guy who knows another guy who saw something's rumor... but ohh.. now it is probably delayed because of.... Open your eyes, how do you think these people earn money?

Of course Gizomodo aslo needs to be right sometimes, otherwise no one would ever beleive them. This doesn't mean that they aren't also playing with the grey area of the unknown to generate traffic, as they have already shown in the past.
[Desire HD General] dlads:
It really isn't full of any bugs at all, the dhd is an epic phone.

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Between the DHD and the SGS

I had the same dilemma and i ended up going for the DHD, i'm glad i did as it's a fantastic phone, no regrets at all.
[Desire HD General] squalllion1uk:
Loudspeaker is clearly software limited so that can be fixed. Heavy as a rock? I didnt know what kind of rocks you play with but 167g? heavy?? :/ RIGHT! okay... I forgot that the SGS has had no issues ....ow wait I forgot I couldnt count them on one hand alone.

Battery? Umm no not really maybe you should consider not having every single app on your phone updating every minute? Do you need it ? No I very much doubt it, its a smart phone l2tweak plz kk? The options are there for a reason TO BE USED. Okay maybe I'm wrong here but the main attraction to android is we can customize no? Then do it! Stop expecting stock settings to fulfil every single need I get less than 4% battery drain while leaving my phone on standby for 10 hours and I'm only on my 4th charge so still plenty more to come out of it!

What you need on a proper phone? Well in that case it does its job perfectly as a PHONE! Which is used to call people ^_^ Just had to state the obvious.

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On the other note bugs? Owww no'z the dreaded /init bug nooozzz wait such a hard fix.....usb debugging...HOLY **** BATMAN GET JESUS ON THE PHONE!

The sim cover and battery cover? Well lets see its plastic so maybe lets not try smashing it together hmm?

Also while your waiting for the next update I shall be thinking " LOLLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL@U" mmkay?

Simple as go to a shop and test drive them both okay? See which you prefer!
[Desire HD General] slateac:
Sony denied the PSPhone first, then later-on admitted that they are working on that platform
[Desire HD General] novanab:
You think I didn't? I went on Saturday and testes them out both at the same time, and I just couldn't decide.... I want them both LOL
[Desire HD General] liamhere:
really only you know whats best for you ;)
[Desire HD General] novanab:
Ok guys Im going to the shop now wish me luck lol
[Desire HD General] M_T_M:
Thread closed...I guess this wasn't clear enough, was it?

http://xdaforums.com/report.php?p=9066619

http://xdaforums.com/report.php?p=9067662

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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] doronkdoron:
I heared a lot of opinions saying that the GPS on eclair JM9 is very good, near perfect. As you know, we can't say that on JPO, WJPA and all froyo versions.

So, It's just seems obvious to me to ask - why Samsung went back with the GPS performance?

And is it possible to create a fix for the GPS for Froyo, based on the firmware from JM9' so the performance of the GPS on Froyo will significantly improve?

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I have asked from PilotX to create this kind of fix for me. Thanks to him (post#9) for creating a flashable zip via ClockworkMod recovery with JM9's GPS files inside.

http://www.multiupload.com/C90PAO39WX

***Using this is at your own risk but in no way will you generate the same result as some did. Although people have been reporting on better GPS after applying this "fix", it's still your own decision to make. A backup is recommended, as allways.***

Tutorial

Download the file and put it in your sdcard.

Go to ClockworkMod recovery, choose "Install from sdcard" and browse to that zip file, then flash it.

After that, download an application called "SGS Tools" from the market.

Run SGS Tools. Browse to Secret Codes > GPS Test and Settings > Delete GPS data.

Then try out your GPS, don't panic, as the first fix takes a bit.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mike.sw:
opinions doesnt mean much unless they are backed up with some real data. you can browse the forum and find a lot of opinions about different gps fixes along the way.

few months have passed since first signs of trouble with gps, more then enough to find 100% fix.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] japanfred:
My GPS Seems good enough when driving around with JPA...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lpsi2000:
Please change the thread title, you making it sound like you have a GPS fix for Froyo. When you are really just asking questions and inquiring.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] doronkdoron:
That's why I have used the question mark icon. Still, I will change it.

mike, As many people here, I inquire the GPS subject for a long time. The information about JM9 is based not only on XDA users, but on people that I trust, Who have tried many firmwares and tested the GPS tens of hours. I would have tried it myself, but It will be a big problem for me to go back to eclair.

Is it even possible to create such a fix for Froyo? (based on eclair)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] silverstorm:
Yep, based on my experience no other ROM has matched Eclair JM8, when it comes to Google Navigation accuracy. I'm on JPO and the voice directions go hay-wire "turn left in 30 yards" nope, wait, "carry on straight and cross the junction" and it constantly puts me on the opposite traffic flow. But I wouldn't flash back to JM8 just cos of reliable satnav since I'd miss so much of the Froyo goodness
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] EarlZ:
GPS navigation really depends on a lot of factors incuding hardware revision and physical location ( and probably luck )

I have 2 SGS's here and side by side the other one locks to 7 sats and its very accurate on a drive basis while the other one barely locks to 4 and takes over 5mins to even find 1.. both have the same firmware installed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] oswade:
gps.conf set to the right region?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Pilotxxx:
I make for Doron the JM9 GPS update he asked.

You can try it yourself :)

I already mannaged to put it in my next rom and i think its the best Gps for now.

http://www.multiupload.com/C90PAO39WX

Pilotx
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] doronkdoron:
As pilotx said, he made the JM9 fix for me. I can also confirm the GPS have vastly improved on my device! Althogh It's not perfect, It's the best GPS I have seen on my device. Try installing it on FROYO.

Don't forget to clean the GPS data after installation! be patient, first time fix may take some time.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] coradux:
How do we install this?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sewe:
probably flash via recovery
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] celtichazard:
How to Install?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] puiradu2009:
Can you guys be more acurate?

Should I rename the zip to update.zip then install the update files from recovery mode?

How to to clean gps data after the update?

A small tutorial is needed...

Thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] crypta:
I recognize that gps is better without sensory support on jpo
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] eisen_one:
can some budy make short tut about the instaltion ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] doronkdoron:
I'm sorry, thought it was obvious :

1. install the file using clockworkmod, no need to rename.

2. clear the GPS data (using a program called "SGS tools", you can find it on market. enter :

secret codes--->GPS test and settings--->delete GPS data.

again, be patient for first time fix!

share your results, me and pilotx had big improvement.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zorxd:
What kind of improvement do you see? Faster GPS lock or better accuracy?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sufox:
install the update files from recovery mode (rename to update.zip)

is not possible ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] corgar:
if this file make some problem where i can find the original version for jpo?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] AppiePils:
Great fix. Works flawlessly with darky 7.5.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] evoic:
Worked.

Thanked.

Darky's 7.01 for Samsung Captivate.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] GamerP7:
Hello,

Drivers JM9 worsened my GPS .. and I wanted to go back to my current firmware drivers JPY.

Does someone have the kindness to upload the drivers for the JPY?

It includes the folder /system/bin/gpsd and the file /system/etc/jupiter.xml

Thank you!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] max_82:
If I fix my GPS using this driver, is it possible to restore my GPS using GPSrestore? I doubt if it works on my captivate. I am still using leak stock froyo ROM (i897UCJI6), JK4 modem, and speedmod K12u kernel. Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] phalanger:
Tried it and thoroughly tested it. Unfortunately, this "fix" made my GPS worse.

It really should come with a backup/restore original drivers option, now I'll have to do this manually.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] borelis:
The only fix worth trying is hardware fix!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] dupel:
Guys that do this fix now - maybe you could look at date of first post and realise that it is for old eclair and old froyo ( newer froyo has better gps)?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] bapsack:
well i´m on JPY stock and I were more satisfied with the gps result when i was on JM8

additionally I can not connect a BT GPS Mouse under JPY when I Still could under JM8

So i´l give this a try!

BTW I made up an update.zip for CWM to restore the JPY GPS kernels View attachment 535126
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ddgeo:
work great on captivate 2.2 andromeda3 thxs
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rbeijers:
Can I try this fix when I'm using gingerbread.XWJW5 with a kernel: 2.6.35.7.

Baseband version is I9000XXJW4.

I got a lot of problems with my GPS and can't find the resolution.

Thanks.

Remco
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cmats:
Im on :

PDA:I9000XWJPA

PHONE:I9000XXJPP

CSC:I9000XEEJP4

This did NOT work on my device now my gps wont get a fix at all!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Fr4gg0r:
If you have 2e it should work, otherwise not.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] doronkdoron:
The improvement for us is that the GPS locks on more satlites with better SNR.

I don't have the original JPO files. I suppose that you can do a nandroid backup and than restore.

Like I said, both of us had seen big improvement, but use it at your own risk.

DON'T FORGET TO CLEAN GPS DATA AFTER INSTALLATION AND WAIT FOR A FEW MINUTES FOR FIRST TIME FIX!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Gohst_oc:
Does anyone know where the Sources of the GPS sriverfiles, libs etc... are?

I want to see where the real differences are (if possible).

Maybe we need to do a bit research to figure out where the problem could be.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] puiradu2009:
So what is this clockworkmod and where can be found?

If I use voodoo and my partitions are ext4 there will be problems?

But first someone light me about clockworkmod please!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lpsi2000:
It is interesting that you are seeing big improvement within just a day or two. Let's see what you have to say after a few days. I never had any issues with locks, the issue was with accuracy when you are driving. The issues only show themselves after a few days. As of right now I have very little issues with JPA ROM, JPP Modem, and custom JPM kernel.

We will see within a week how reliable this fix is for you and others. Please use your GPS during your daily travels.

BTW, I see a GPS fix almost every week and none of them have last
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jonny_ftm:
Would you jump in this topic and say what date are built the 2 SGS? I'm quiet sure the newer is few weeks old and has the GPS working.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=825859&page=3

Just trying to make people RMA their phones asking for a newer built one for GPS fix. All the world loughed at Apple and their antenna fix for IP4. But at least, they admitted it and made a fix. Samsung is just fooling people.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Philbert123:
I have tested it and , hmm, there is a difference, but not so significant.

The signals are not so stable anyway.

Maybe i see more when i test it in real conditions tomorrow in the car...

The screens here were from indoor.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ale0crysis:
no fixed gps for froyo? So saddddd :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] th3s7riker:
Yheaaa i try to flash the .zip and the GPS it's really improve !!!! before in my house GPS find 1-2 sattellites, now in the same position GPS find 5-6 Sattellites with 15mt precision ;)

P.S. my firmware is JPM
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] EarlZ:
0.asia.pool.ntp.org
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] EarlZ:
There is a huge improvement on the GPS with just a static test ( me standing on a clear sky outside ) 10 in view, 9 in use about 2 of them got an SnR of 13-15 the rest is between 30 to 25, those came out about 15seconds or less.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] celtichazard:
Here Works Too i have a locked location and 8 satelites can see now and conected 5