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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Please tell me there is another way to get a CID for goldcard

Or a way to patch the version of RUU for Asia_India, to replace or remove the bootloader version. Shouldnt this be possible, theoretically?

I have Nandroid backups if they may help patch the files.

Some more info, if it will help diagnose my problem..

C:\Software\htc\android-sdk-windows\tools>fastboot getvar all
INFOversion: 0.5
INFOversion-bootloader: 0.82.0000
INFOversion-baseband: 5.09.05.30_2
INFOversion-cpld: None
INFOversion-microp: 051d
INFOversion-main: 2.13.720.1
INFOserialno: SH08APL0****
INFOimei: 35383304********
INFOproduct: bravo
INFOplatform: HBOOT-8x50
INFOmodelid: PB9920000
INFOcidnum: HTC__038
INFObattery-status: good
INFObattery-voltage: 4187mV
INFOpartition-layout: Generic
INFOsecurity: on
INFObuild-mode: SHIP
INFOboot-mode: FASTBOOT
INFOcommitno-bootloader: dirty-84704761
INFOhbootpreupdate: 11
all: Done!
finished. total time: 0.016s

Forgive me for the triple posts. In my desperation, I forgot to edit, and posted replies instead. Sorry for the bump..

Or is there a method to hard-flash a recovery?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
You're in the same shoes I was 3 weeks ago, to say the least, people here are stupid enough give you a repair/replacement(Especially quick if it hasn't been 2 weeks since you got the phone).

Anyway, HTC Desire bought from a retailer in India might not be visibly branded, but it is branded internally. So you need a goldcard to flash one of the newer RUUs with HBOOT 0.83 and the only India's RUU is the one with HBOOT 0.80.

But I created a goldcard with HTC Desire a few weeks ago just in case I manage to SLCD brick my phone, it is attached. Follow the guide for creating goldcard after the step in which you have obtained the goldcard.img.

Now note that this was created from my phone, I am not guaranteeing that this will work but I believe this is the second best chance you got(First being having your own goldcard) since it was created from a phone branded same as yours.

P.S. Make sure to extract it from the zip file to get the goldcard.img file.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
I will try this right now. But I thought gold cards were specific for the card? Anyway, what's there to lose?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Can you tell me what capacity your card is? And its make?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
It won't make a difference since I never wrote that file to a sd card.

EDIT : I just realised what you meant, it was a Kingston Class 4 8GB.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Failed again! Apparently card and class does matter! I'm at my wit's end and totally lost. HTC doesnt even have a service centre in my city..

I know this might come as very, very inappropriate, but..Could you consider selling me your Gold Card via ebay or some other way? Put the cost as much as you like. Since the device is of same type, the Gold card ought to work. I honestly dont know any other way to recover my phone. Scoured XDA, Modaco and other sites for any info. Tried everything. Didnt know a Goldcard was so important. Didnt realize my HTC Desire was branded even! :mad:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
Well, have you tried getting a card of the same type of mentioned? Where are you?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
Also, you can try taking it to the person who sold it to you. Just say that it didn't come up one day.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
I have three cards..A Kingston 32Gb, 2Gb and a Transcend 4 Gb..

But from what I have read on forums, the CID is a unique 32 bit identifier which varies even among cards of the same Class, Capacity and Make. So I dont think it makes a difference if I buy the same card even. I've read posts of people trying it, and it failing. Apparently a gold card is unique!

I'm in Trivandrum. I've got an exam at PGI Chandigarh on 20th, so will be there at Delhi on 21st evening. But if you'd rather send it by mail, just send it by Cash on Demand, or I'll send the money in advance, and you can send it later..

Just consider it. Dont want to cause a burden...

I bought it online from Flipkart. They dont have aftersales. Am supposed to take it to HTC..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
I really don't got a spare card to send to you, perhaps you can find someone in there to help you out? Or you can just call HTC and have them figure out for you?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Thanks anyway for trying to help!

How did you solve your problem though?

EDIT: Apparently, HTC does have a new service centre in my city. Opened this week. Guess that was just for me! :) Returned it.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bhutanigaurav:
Since you're receiving more replies on this thread than on mine, i'll put things up here.

1. Asia_India RUU will not work. I used the same RUU and it put me in the same boat as you. Delete that file

2. None of the RUUs from shipped-roms will work -- I tried them all the SLCD ones. This is because even though HTC is selling Desires unbranded and unlocked in India, it is really branded to Aisa - India.

3. You will need a gold card to be able to flash a RUU unless you manage to find the RUU file that the phone was shipped with -- I wasn't.

Try the following:

1. Switch on the phone. Let it be on for 3-4 minutes. Plug the phone into your computer.

2. Download this -- the gold card tool: http://android.modaco.com/content/so...-goldcardtool/

3. Go ahead and have the tool get the CID from the phone -- does this work??
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Thanks for responding, @bhutanigaurav

You summarize quite correctly the problems facing an HTC Desire user in India. I had to find all this painfully, following up over hours, all the methods from a multitude of forums.

In short, if you have an HTC Desire from India. It's an SLCD, branded Asia_India. Make a goldcard as soon as you get the new phone. Else you're done for, if a problem occurs.

I feel that Making a Gold Card should be highlighted in Bold and Underlined in all Rooting guides.

I used Unrevoked 3.21 for rooting, went as smooth as butter. Even doing an S-Off with Alpharev was smooth. You don't need a goldcard any time for that. It was only while flashing the RUU to revert to stock, that all the problems started.

As for me, I'm just back from returning my phone to HTC for warranty. I told them the phone restarted while doing the OTA to Froyo. I think they actually bought it.

I'm crossing my fingers.

A small note..If you read HTC's warranty policy that comes with the phone, and also the one on its Asia website, nowhere does it say that the warranty is void if you install a software. Even a flash. I went over the fine print with a magnifier, so to speak. So, even if someone gets into this fix, you can return it to HTC. You cant void your warranty that way. It's only when you subject the phone to physical stress or use unbranded accessories that you void your warranty. So, cheers!

(Do check your local warranty policy, though)

Thanks to everyone who offered help to me!

Aside: Theoretically, splicing the branded RUU for Asia_India: RUU_Bravo_hTC_Asia_India_1.21.720.4_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_127705_signed together with the newer HBoot version version RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.2_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_signed, removing, adding and modifying files should do the trick. If only one can figure out a way to sign it with HTC's signature. But that might be difficult. I'm guessing it has a codex.. I'll leave it to the hacker pros..

So long..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bhutanigaurav:
so you were s-off?! if you tried running the Asia_India RUU before you were S-Off, it wouldn't have let you run it. I tried before S-Off and it threw me an error. It's only when I had S-Off did it overwrite the hboot ---- at least this is what i think happened.

Anyway, you should now be getting a new piece so it's all good :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Yes, I was S-OFF with Alpharev, Rooted with Unrevoked 3.21. Never tried an RUU before. Just this time. Yes, I think S-OFF is what caused it to overwrite the boot and cause the SLCD brick. Damn. I didnt find S-OFF that useful either!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Wont and didnt work. For creating a goldcard, you need the CID of device. Since I couldnt get adb to recognize the device (even though fastboot recognized it), I couldnt get the CID, hence no goldcard.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bhutanigaurav:
I've since rooted my phone but not done S-off -- haven't found the need for it either even with the n1table hack that AlphaRev released
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
I didn't, got a replacement.

And this entire problem happened because the RUU flashed a HBOOT < 0.83 which is incompatible with SLCD and hence you see nothing.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
They replaced the phone itself? I thought HTC should have the right RUU? Couldnt they have flashed it? My tech says he's going to flash it. I'm waiting to see if he can.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragooon123:
Nyah they replaced it, got a replacement in 2 days.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
You were lucky to get it in two. My techs are saying its a display problem and are trying to replace the panel. I let it play for a while, since I have to keep up the show of not knowing too much about the device! :rolleyes:

It's now more than a week, so I put the pressure on HTC..They've given the service centre a timeframe of 2 more days to replace the panel and repair it. HTC says it will work after panel is replaced. I know it wont, but let's see.. :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
You can't ever use an RUU with a lower version of hboot....u need to have gold card for that...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vpraveenis:
I faced a similar situation when I was trying to root my SLCD India desire the first time. My Nandroid backup failed to restore and I flashed an RUU that bricked the LCD. Had a harrowing 48hours after which it finally came back to life. In that process I made a gold-card with one of the 3 cards that I have. I dont remember which one and have a few questions regarding gold card process which I feel will help others also.

1. The CID - is that unique to the Phone or to the sd card?? Meaning, if I insert different SD card into the phone, will I get different CID for each SD?? Which is the differentiating factor... Device or SD card??

2. If I just have the CID of my current sd card saved, I can create the gold card wihtout the Device right? Apart from obtaining the CID, the device is not invlolved until the RUU flashing process? So in effect, a gold card can be created at a later time if required, if the CID is available. Correct?

3. If i create a gold card with another Desire, can it be used in my device to flash a generic RUU??
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
I faced a similar situation when I was trying to root my SLCD India desire the first time. My Nandroid backup failed to restore and I flashed an RUU that bricked the LCD. Had a harrowing 48hours after which it finally came back to life. In that process I made a gold-card with one of the 3 cards that I have. I dont remember which one and have a few questions regarding gold card process which I feel will help others also.

1. The CID - is that unique to the Phone or to the sd card?? Meaning, if I insert different SD card into the phone, will I get different CID for each SD?? Which is the differentiating factor... Device or SD card?? Yes. The factor is the memory card and the model of device. Desires of different countries will have different CIDs too. And different memory cards will have different CIDs.

2. If I just have the CID of my current sd card saved, I can create the gold card wihtout the Device right? Apart from obtaining the CID, the device is not invlolved until the RUU flashing process? So in effect, a gold card can be created at a later time if required, if the CID is available. Correct? Yes

3. If i create a gold card with another Desire, can it be used in my device to flash a generic RUU?? If it is a Desire of the same region, yes.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
How? Were you able to get into Recovery and issue an Adb command? My device wasnt able to. Probably because of RUU flash on top of a S-OFF.

Update on my Desire: They tried changing the display to AMOLED, and tried reflashing. Apparently it still didnt work. I could have told them that they needed a goldcard for that. Now, they're going to replace the board.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
bro u can't downgrade ur downloader with shipped ruu... u still have latest hboot 93...but u can not see it coz ur flashing process has been failed in my way if u r able to access fastboot mode than surely u have an chance...

I'm getting same prob. After flashing HTC India ruu... but luck by chance I have gold card...than I will try HTC WWE n its worked... I already sent u a pm... for some GK
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Sorry, didnt see your PM till now. Glad it worked. It should, since you had a gold card. Creating a gold card is the MOST IMPORTANT STEP before flashing an RUU for warranty. Unfortunately most guides never mention that.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
Ya I thing senior mentioned that on her thread

GOLD CARD IS THE MOST IMPORTANT STEP before flashing an RUU for warranty.

ONE More thing bro. If HTC able to run ur mob. Without flashing than they will see ur s-off hboot 93...:-) coz ruu not overwrite ur latest hboot n they will try to void ur warranty...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vpraveenis:
Thanks for clarifying. So we have Desire1, Desire2 belonging to same region and Desire3 belonging to a different region. SDCard1 and SDCard2.. two different cards from same manufacturer.. then

Desire1+SDCard1 => CID1

Desire1+SDCard2 => CID2.. Also,

Desire2+SDCard1 => CID1 (Same CID since the device is from same region as Desire1)

Desire2+SDCard2 => CID2 (Same CID since the device is from same region as Desire1)

Desire3+SDCard1 => CID3 (since device is from different region from Desire1&2)

Desire3+SDCard2 => CID4 (since device is from different region from Desire1&2)

So the SD card is the major factor and the Device is a minor factor.

I was able to recover by flashing a generic SLCD RUU since only my LCD was bricked. The device was booting and working fine but display was not available.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vpraveenis:
The problem is compounded by the fact that Indian users assume their devices are unbranded. Even I was surprised when teppic's downgrade script returned error that I need a gold card. Infact that error was what prompted me to create a gold card I think...

Trying to install Froyo OTA will upgrade the hboot to 0.93 right?? So unless they note S-off they will not be suspecting a wrong flash issue. And I am pretty confident that they will poke around and if they cant fix it, they will return it to factory and offer a replacement..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Thanks for clarifying. So we have Desire1, Desire2 belonging to same region and Desire3 belonging to a different region. SDCard1 and SDCard2.. two different cards from same manufacturer.. then

Desire1+SDCard1 => CID1

Desire1+SDCard2 => CID2.. Also,

Desire2+SDCard1 => CID1 (Same CID since the device is from same region as Desire1)

Desire2+SDCard2 => CID2 (Same CID since the device is from same region as Desire1)

Desire3+SDCard1 => CID3 (since device is from different region from Desire1&2)

Desire3+SDCard2 => CID4 (since device is from different region from Desire1&2)

I believe that this is so..

I was able to recover by flashing a generic SLCD RUU since only my LCD was bricked. The device was booting and working fine but display was not available.

Yup. You were able to recover because you did it with a Goldcard inside. Wish I had one. In fact, creating a goldcard was the first thing I set out to do, after I bought a Desire. But posts by some people saying a gold card was needed only for branded phones stopped me. And I expected an error while rooting if I needed a Goldcard. Unfortunately Unrevoked is smart enough to root without needing a Gold card. And as you said, like most other Indian others, I'd no idea that an Indian Desire is branded with HTC__India, which I must say is a very stupid thing to do.

And I am pretty confident that they will poke around and if they cant fix it, they will return it to factory and offer a replacement..	Actually, in my case, they will be replacing the board, rather than provide a replacement. I'm trying to make the most of it, by asking them to keep the AMOLED that they ordered as replacement, rather than the SLCD my device came up with. Newer RUUs dont have a SLCD/AMOLED issue and should work with both.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
Yup HTC SHIPPED ROM 1.x has AMOLED & SLCD specific but HTC SHIPPED ROM 2.x has both AMOLED & SLCD capability...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
I wish HTC themeselves would just release the RUUs themselves, and save themselves and us the trouble! It would save them a lot of support requests too! :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
I'm now not so sure about CID differing from device to device if used with the same memory card. Actually there is a particular 32 bit CID which is an identifier of the SD card. It these are the same, it should be readable from any Android device. Actually any device should be able to read it, including a PC. Why there arent any apps for that beats me.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
I have 2 sdcard 4gb n 8gb both has different cid....so it means each SD card has unique cid............. plz confirm me... if yes than this card's work with other handset too...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
That's right
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
A sdcard put in an Android device and connected to pc, should be able to interact with adb to give the CID
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
hahaha...lol... again try to brick my desire... n i've in success....

this time flshing RUU_Bravo_hTC_Asia_India_1.21.720.4_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_127705_signed with gold card on my desire...flashing successful...but got soft brick... means blanck screen... it means this rom does not support SLCD..... remember INDIAN Users... DO NOT FLASH this RUU
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Golly!

Why would you try that version? It is incompatible with SLCD! Ah well, you know it now..

Anyway, flash the latest WWE version with goldcard..

Try it and tell me if it works..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Hmm.. So a softbrick can happen even if the device is not S-OFF, but with goldcard.. Good confirmation..

Tell me which ROMs get you out this time.. Try the WWEs-newer ones should work with the goldcard. Sounds like you're having fun anyway! :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
yup bro... having fun with 1.x versions ROM's... but too bad i can't able to find working HTC_india (SLCD) ROM for my desire....

just insert ur gold card...boot into fastboot n run this rom.. n everything is fine..

RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.2_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_signed

does it is possible to unroot my shipped HTC_india ROM...???
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
No. That's a very old version of HBoot. In addition, that one is incompatible with SLCDs. So the 2.29 is the one for you. I dont think HTC will notice a difference if you take it to them for warranty.

There is a way to get it back to the HTC India version by flashing the zip from the OTA that is provided in India. If you have it, you can flash that with Fastboot. It is actually another known method of unbricking an SLCD Desire.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
But where can find this HTC_india ota update...? Does anyone have it.....
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Had one..I've since overwritten that copy with a partially downloaded file and corrupted it. You won't find it on the net. If you were to flash a generic WWE RUU (newer than the Indian RUU, but still non-Froyo), you would be reverting to Stock. Then if you try to update your device, you would get the OTA. Only make sure that you backup the OTA zip as soon as it starts update. Maybe a battery pull. Better to do it before the main process of updation starts. I believe that the OTA zip gets deleted once the update process is over. Stock rooted ROMs (some) also get the OTA. When you do get the OTA, please update it if you can. It will help a lot of other people with Indian Desire.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
What's the current status?

Unbricked?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
Hi,

Will try it on today...n try to get HTC_india ota update file...10x
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
What I meant was..try to update upload the Indian OTA if you can. If would help unbrick Indian Desires!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
bro. i've downgrade Froyo 2.2 to 2.1 from this method http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=768256

after this i'm getting this ota update....

OTA_Bravo_HTC_EU_2.10.405.2-1.21.405.2_R_P_releaserdztwslz3nr4n0zv.zip

its a europe version.. not indian.....

so next what...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Hmm.. I guess using the WWE RUU then gives you the European version only. Bummer. Anyway, I cant see an advantage of using the Indian RUU over this one. Your phone warranty will still continue. I'll post the Indian RUU for you when I get back my phone this weekend. I'll upload the OTA for you then..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
By the way, at the end of Teppic74's guide that you followed, are you sure you used a WWE version RUU and not a European one?

Thanks to EddyOS for pointing out that WWE is actually the European version!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolexe:
yes i'm sure its a WWE version not european...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
WWE = World Wide English - European RUU and not for India, you need the Asian RUU
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Hey Eddy,

Actually even the Asian RUU is not for India..Remember when you helped me find out that my device is branded? India has a seperate RUU (from Asian). The problem is that this is from the time of Stone Age..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
coolexe, do you have a Nandroid created from the first time after you rooted with unrevoked?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] najar360:
Droidzone,

attach my print screen after run fastboot oem gencheckpt. please help to advise whether I have branded or unbranded set? base on this also can I tell my RUU is RUU_Bravo_Froyo_hTC_Asia_WWE_2.13.707.1_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_143921_signed.exe. fyi, i just create gold card after reading your experience and to be ready if something when wrong.

before root my set, the only thing i can remember i'm on 2.1 eclair with hboot 0.83. then after that i perform ota update to froyo.

my set already s-off and bought from local operator.

so far, i do not have any problem but just want to prepare.

can you advise method for unroot using gold card?