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[Epic 4G Android Development] kristv:
Definitely in agreement with everyone who is saying "**** the haters". What an ungrateful bunch of **** to have to read. Grow up, you turds!

Keep up the great effort on this project. I can't wait for this mod. I've been keeping my eye on this thread and it's gonna be freakin' awesome when it's released!
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Oh no no, thats not what I meant, I'm in definite agreement that their goals are pure, I'm just speaking from a pure technical standpoint. It seems that sometimes there's difficulty getting something to work (like themes for instance) for all 3 of the big 3 (frozen, bonsai, and viper).

I surmise that little differences between them present initial difficulties, and that normally its up to the dev of the mod to make sure it'll work across ROMs. With such a heavy modification as this is, I'm just hoping it doesn't require too much extensive reworking of how devs have built their ROMs (seeing as how this has been pretty much built from within frozen), thus negating another ROM from incorporating it. That's all I meant. I really have no knowledge of how this thing works, I'm just speaking from observation.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NEXUS 4G:
What is the chances of this working with cm7
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
My first impression is very little chance...ive been under the assumption that this hidden and locked out tvout service is samsung proprietary. especially since it utilizes a 3.5mm jack driver (a driver!)...

I could, of course, be entirely off base though. The chances are likely lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
This is being baked into the kernel so anyone who compiles their kernel to incorporate this should be good to go worst case is you need this kernel with whatever rom your using. The actual settings t that give you t the menu to use the tv out will most likely be a apk mod so it should be compatable as well but tmiller will have to clarify I'm purely speculating
[Epic 4G Android Development] tmillar07:
I will be in contact with the CM7 team after it is fully functional on our current software release. Definitely one of my goals, but will be a little more difficult.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
Glad to see you back in action tmillar07, thank you for your continued dedication.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NEXUS 4G:
Glad to see this is going so well. looks promising
[Epic 4G Android Development] sndtubes:
Why would this be so different from the rest of the GalaxyS phones which already have tv out enabled? You would think that the drivers, etc. Would be nearly the same??
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Who knows what samsung did to lock it out...parts of the service has been in our phones the whole time..and drivers arent so easily ported
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
Just like I had to "sideload" apps on my GF's Captivate, rooting her phone was entirely different compared to my Epic...they're all just different enough that everything doesn't port over. Unfortunately, using the blanket Android name doesn't mean everything is completely cross compatible, no more so that parts between a 540i and an M5 even though it's the same bodied car.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sndtubes:
Got it, thanks. I guess it all has to be reverse engineered. Gotta wonder what the reason for locking it out in the first place was. My sprint touch pro 2 has tv out enabled. Anyway I'm looking forward to it working. I will definitely donate when other works. I could have really used it this past weekend.

There was supposed to be an accessory called a wmg160 that would stream the video wirelessly but it seems to be vaporware.....
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Hehe, in short, corporate BS. The first thing that comes to mind (and probably the most likely) is that one or more of the networks that sprint teamed up with for sprint tv didnt want us viewing content thats made for the phone on the tv (theyd rather us watch the tv version so we can view the ads lol). Seems like a likely scenario.

And there is allshare to stream wirelessly...can't stream everything though :/
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
Allshare is cool and all, but I'm not going to go out and buy a DLNA TV and hope that it's compatible since I've read that DLNA works differently between brands and/or their compatibility w/ certain types of equipment trying to stream to the TV itself. This is why the 3.5mm to RCA is the best option.

The EVO guys have an app that allows their MicroUSB to HDMI version of TV-Out to allow everything like the 3.5mm to RCA does already, but that would mean just another app to port to make it work on the Epic.
[Epic 4G Android Development] richse:
Could be that she was a hot chick with hyperthyroid and you just blew your chances. I think that's a better analogy considering all the negative comments you are putting in this thread despite the OP having no obligation to help you or any of us.

People don't like "snake oil" because they PAY FOR IT and it doesn't actually work. What have you payed for here? You are really not getting the point of this kind of endeavor.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sinman02:
Please god, make this work... I for one, would be happy to donate if you can get this working.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MikeyLee:
Maybe is Sprint TV actually provided some service that was worth while, we wouldnt have to go through all this. Sprint TV just plain sucks balls.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
+1 bump..........
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
WOW never ever in my life have I seen so many ingrates in one place. Let me see all you HATERS and **** talkers even put gas in your car without screwing it up. Let alone get a service going on a phone you have no clue to what goes on with...... Grow up please I rarely even look at this forum anymore due to people like you ignorant ungrateful people. This stuff gets done for FREE and you still find a way to complain? WOW

AS for the rest of the GRATEFUL good soled people THANK YOU VERY MUCH for the encouraging words. YOU ARE THE REASON WE DO THIS
[Epic 4G Android Development] dr_gibberish:
++++++1! The level of entitlement here boggles the mind at times. Yes, this may not work, but complaining and dissing the devs certainly wont help. I hope you guys realize that for every moron posting negative comments their are a hundred more of us silently following the thread with eager anticipation and nothing but appreciation for your work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
And we appreciate all of your support!
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
+1 it takes a man to attempt something this big with the possibility to fail in the end. But it takes someone with a child like mindstate to condem that man for trying in the first place.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Are there any new updates?
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
You will know when there is.
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
How? Will there be some sort of place we should go to to monitor any changes? Perhaps a "site" which allows various individuals to "post" their thoughts on some sort of electronic bulletin board based on subject?

I dunno, k0nane, sounds really, really fishy to me and I don't think we have the tech to make something like that. Maybe you should just call everyone to be sure.

;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Thank you VERY much for your effort and continued effort to get the tv-out working. I will be a happy man if you come through for us. :eek:
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Well, I don't have TV out in the menu due to using the Stock DI18 ROM. Which ROM has TV OUt as an option in the menu?
[Epic 4G Android Development] :
wasnt there something on sdx about the tvout cable being reversed or something...audio was actually video, or something. looks like im gonna have to go to noobnl's rom and kernel and test it out. once your launch the terminal emu and the ^@^'s show up, switch the cables around and see what you get. there is literally 9 combinations of cables so make sure you get them all!
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
3 combination for video. I tried all 3 cables, none worked. Does Andromeda ROM have a TV OUT option in the display? I didn't think so.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Eazail70x7:
This thread looks promising. Amazing work!
[Epic 4G Android Development] venumx:
cant wait to test this out! looks really cool.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Well, this isn't going anywhere until-

1. There is a ROM to test with that has the TV out selection or a hack to enable it without the display screen option.

2. The drivers for the Epic hardware to enable the signal to be sent out of the 3.5mm jack are enabled in a kernel to test with

3. The correct wires to display are being used (I think I have these- Nokia CA-75u)
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Let me know if you are able to enable the menu..I know you would duh. You know that there is a driver that a Samsung rep had early on right when the phone released where he had the TV option in his menu. I wish we could get our hands on it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
I can try to get you a system dump from a Vibrant. I should be able to dump it using Odin correct?

Wasnt there some speculation that Touchwiz 3.0 was conflicting with tv out on the Epic?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Tmillar07 is the one that needs the file dump. He has the list of wanted files in the first post on the thread. I assume if you zipped the file and put it up on Megafire or someplace he could go grab it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
One of my in-laws have a Samsung Fascinate running on Verizon and Android 2.1, but when I looked to in his menus, he didn't have a TV Out option. Unless I'm just mistaken, anyone who wants to guide me through doing a file dump, just let me know.

I know in the early releases of the Epic, TV-Out was still in the options menu, but I don't recall if anyone said it actually worked or not. I'm past the hopeful for the proper hardware stage since one member has already said he's seen it, now it just comes down to getting the software right. Reading that earlier post with all the Linux code (none of which I understand) looks intimidating, and I bet it could be something as simple as a single space, pathenthesis, etc that could be the make or break point. I hope it happens soon though.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Captivate and Vibrant have it.

"I know in the early releases of the Epic, TV-Out was still in the options menu,"- This is a myth. It wasn't. BUT, it has been said that Samsung techs had a pre-sale version that had the option in it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
Early release/presale...either way, at one point it was there. People reply on the forums and some of them work for Sprint, so I'm just going off what I've read in the past.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jirafabo:
Good work and good luck getting this working. I'm pretty sure success in this would lead to many accolades... and donations!

The rumor forever was that there was no tv out because it interfered wtih cdma service. I'd gladly go into airplane mode to use it!
[Epic 4G Android Development] walord:
If you flash the settings.apk from the vibrant you'll get the option for tv out in the menu. It'll just keep FCing.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Because the driver isn't installed I would guess.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jaydoggy:
Still $100 to get TV-out working

I posted a thread about a month ago stating that I would get $100 to the person that finally got TV-out via the 3.5 mm jack working. There was a few other people offering money in my thread as well. I will be watching this thread with great interest. Good luck.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
I went to your thread and put a link to another thread (kernel from Noobnl) which eventually was repointed to this one. I am also in for cash to whomever does this first.

Edit: I don't really care much about micro usb HDMI either. I want a 1:1 screen via 3.5mm jack to composite.
[Epic 4G Android Development] vansmack:
I'm all for seeing you getting this to work, but before you beat yourself up, are you sure this post is untrue:
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mutiny32:
I believe you meant Fascists, not Communists. Just sayin'
[Epic 4G Android Development] DCRocks:
Yes, the place to go is the OP of this thread, per the notes put into the OP by the Dev working on this project ;)

note: no update to OP = no new news to release to everyone :cool:
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Windows Media Player is DLNA compatible. Streams right to my Epic.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Seriously. You are like the nicest Dev I have ever seen. I don't comprehend where you get the patience from.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
http://www.google.com/products/cata...=X&ei=hJqkTYjxK_GD0QGrxfH9CA&ved=0CEcQ8wIwAw#
[Epic 4G Android Development] BeerChameleon:
I think all the developers are nice and that patience can not always stay settle, it gets really old answering the same old questions over and over i know and u will have a snoby remark every once in awhile when really u dont mean it and apologize.

I enjoy helping people with the simplelest questions over and over but i do lose patience, people that have problems should read or try some simple solutions, i think we spoil people too much on these forums, and answer too many simple solution questions that if you cant figure out on your own without some reading, then u should not mod your phone with custom stuff..
[Epic 4G Android Development] ptfdmedic:
ACS has been very good at sharing with the rest of us. I wouldn't worry about that at all. :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] hotwired34:
Aaahhh!! At first read, I thought you were serious...i was thinking k0nane was going to pop a gasket! Thats funny.

On a more serious tip...i for one love the devs here. I don't know much about android programing specifically, but in my 9-5, I do alot of programing on the Windows and Apple OS and totally understand the brain strain that goes into the hours of reverse engineering, deciphering and manipulating code...especially when you are making progress...you can code for hours without blinking. I have a great deal of respect for you guys and appreciate all you do.

Thanks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Thanks for your support! And, obvious jokes and trolls are always distinguishable. I usually respond to both the same way: by laughing and/or posting a picture. :D But sometimes people get annoying. I try not to let it show.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sndtubes:
I think I'm going to have myself placed in a medically induced coma until this is reality. I can't stand the wait :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
Whew. Thanks, DCRocks! I can always count on you for finding the latest in technological advances in communications! ;-)

Yes, my post was a backhanded, semi-humorous attempt at supporting k0nane's previous post. You'll know I'm not serious because I place a winky face in the post. Also, if you note my disclaimer...well, I cover it there, too. It's just the thread was getting a little too combative and I like to attempt to defuse those situations; I'm pretty laid back.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DCRocks:
You are welcome! I always try to please :cool:

;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] latinmaxima:
Excited to see what you guys can do with this. Thanks for trying and even if it doesn't work you guys all do amazing work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Kif420:
We're not worthy......we're not worthy....

Sent from my '' Bag Phone ''
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Tmillar, if im reading the links post correctly, are you making a 100% pure aosp rom? Is that how you are going to execute tvout or is that another project of yours? Either way, aosp gbread goodness..mmmm....

:excited:
[Epic 4G Android Development] tmillar07:
More of a hybrid between the upcoming nexus s 4g build, and the latest CM7 epic port. I'm not a 100% but I'm pretty sure it's gonna need samsung's proprietary drivers, libs, modules... And I just don't see why everyone should jump on the NexS and fork out $250 when they alredy have the same phone, minus the nfc chip, curved glass, and internal storage(BTW, on speed tests, OneNAND vs MicroSD: I'm currently pulling in about 3 times the bandwidth from the SD as opposed to the NAND), but plus a hw keyboard, etc. So yeah, both the ACS Froyo.EC05 based TV mod, and the Hybrid Gingerbread ROM(Including WiMax and TV-out) are being developed side by side. Answer your question?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Ginger was just seen (spec doc?) looming at the samsung site. Link in the general section. May be that will be of some help for a 4g version of 2.3. And it will have proper drivers (besides tv out I'm guessing)
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Link please....
[Epic 4G Android Development] KitsunePaws:
Perhaps I'm blind, what update was made?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
I cant paste. Look in general. You will see
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Yes :)

One word: suhhhweeet :)

Full support my brother
[Epic 4G Android Development] boktai1000:
Not that I'm all for this advancement for the Epic, but could you please post some proof of your claims of how your MicroSD is faster than OneNAND? I mean it really must depend on what kind of MicroSD card you have, etc.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sndtubes:
Will you have the tv out feature working on present EC05 Rome or will we have to wait for the completely new rom?
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
This is my new "check every chance possible" thread. You will be a legend if you pull it off!
[Epic 4G Android Development] ungovernable1977:
wow, 6 bux for that nokia cable? Not bad for prefab, I couldnt have made it cheaper myself if I didnt have the parts laying around. Yeah I was hoping for HDMI, but then thinking about making my own 50 footer, plus seeing that HDMI is only for video sealed it. We really got short changed on this one... too bad. I figure they cant make one SGS have EVERYTHING.... backdoor agreements and all.

Anyways, had a thought about the haters.... I wonder if theres any correlation to the haters previously having phones such as the EVO is now, or the G1, etc... where they did have a ****-ton of options available, they got that sense of entitlement... just a thought.. maybe they have 'leeched' for so long, they forgot what it was like the first time they realised people were GIVING their work away...I first rooted a Moment and got rid of that for my Epic a month later, so to me, this is amazing... seems our devs are working triple time with shoddy official releases, no support, and being the phone that sprint forgot. Its too bad, but if everyone knew, how would they sell evos?? ;)

but to catch up with the thread... that new ROM sounds very cool... and this mod would be amazing... thanks for all your guys' work!
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
As soon as it's available, we'll have it for you.

Believe me, we're working on it. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
For those of you who do nothing but come here asking for updates only, quit posting and just do this:

User CP

> under Setting and Options on the left side, click

Edit Options

, scroll down to Messaging and Notification, fill all 3 check boxes then select

Instant Email Notifications

in the dropdown box.

If you've never posted on this thread, goto the actual thread itself, find the dropdown in the upper right corner called

Thread Tools

and click

Subscribe to Thread.

Amazing what technology can do vs coming here randomly on a weekly basis just to keep asking the same question over and over again.

Thank you.
[Epic 4G Android Development] roghaj:
Hey, I'm one of the haters on this thread. It is really because how the thread got started. tmillar07 was looking for video out. People told him it wouldn't happen so he started this thread, saying he would do it himself. He ended up doing a decent job getting help from people like k0nane after the thread died a few times and he posted "UPDATE" and "Beta". The beta post made me mad, and I guess I should have kept it to myself, but it does seem like he is playing us. If noobnl says it can't be done, I don't take it as law, but I certainly do think that some help from a samsung internal would be necessary.

And yes, I do have an EVO as well as my EPIC. Epic screen is soooo pretty.

Explanation of earlier rant over.

Now for a request. Please post a pic or video of the phone outputting antying to a screen that isn't just text. I don't care if it is out of sync and scrolling or jumping. Does anyone else want to see this?

Thanks
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Tmillar how about we keep this in house until completion. No since in addressing these posts some don't realize you were seeking people interested in joining the project instead you got bench warmers demanding **** not appreciating you done past points that were not expected to be passed already.
[Epic 4G Android Development] b15love:
If Im annoyed at crap like this, I cant imagine what the devs feel like. As many of them will telling you...No one is forcing you to be here, YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE to be requesting proof or demanding anything, especially if you label yourself as a "hater" of this project. This sort of mentality ruins boards and topics. So yes, TRY and keep your "feelings" to yourself.

As for everyone else, thank you posts are indeed nice gestures, but they are extremely redundant.There are thank you buttons and such. Same with questions. Ask your questions when this/if comes out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
I vote we stay on OP. No need for bumps of banter when nothing has been updated.
[Epic 4G Android Development] compuw22c:
Glad to see there's still work being done. I also agree nobody here should be demanding anything or complaining about it not being done fast enough.

That being said, based on the status of the project it appears as though it has progressed to the point that something could be released to the public with a heavy disclaimer that this should not at all be expected to be a daily driver, simply a proof of concept.

For those that don't understand, without working 'sync' for video, you won't see a picture on a tv/composite input. You WILL however be outputting a signal out the composite jack. Thus, if viewed on an oscilloscope or vectorscope, you will see the signal itself, however missing the "sync" aspect of the signal required to make a TV "lock" onto the signal.

I know that I for one would LOVE to see this code in it's current state, if only to take it into work, load it for 20 minutes or so to run some signal output to my oscilloscope and check things out, then revert back to my backup immediately. Even back in the days of very unstable Cyanogen releases there are lots of people who on the weekend want to try something out for a few hours just to see the progress being made. Even if it's just the source, I for one would love to see some kind of Alpha made available in its non-working state. Good luck guys, love to see the progress!
[Epic 4G Android Development] ArchangelRenzoku:
I think I've just fallen in love with you, Tmillar... Thanks for that awesome post that read my mind and then some. XD
[Epic 4G Android Development] dwallersv:
Yes indeed!

How are you doing? Fully recovered from the car crash? No lasting impact, I hope...

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[Epic 4G Android Development] dwallersv:
Well now... After catching up on the thread, I'll answer my own question: Sounds like tmillar07 is fully recovered and stronger than ever :D

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