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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xile6:
Nothing is wrong but some people have removed system apps so if we get another ota update they wont be able to install it without downgrading then updating
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Android_Guy:
Thanks for finally answering this question! I was worried about the OTA update till your explaination...!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] LGSilva:
Vibrating every 10 seconds. Had to downgrade
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] g1junky:
downgrading stopped the vibrating?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ZeroSX:
Well the problem started after the ota for those with the vibrating issue, so I'm assuming that's a yes.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] g1junky:
i sure hope so .. im still trying hard to get this to work but i continue to get the same results
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] g1junky:
i follow the tut correctly i don't get why it keeps telling me "main version is older" i dump the miscnew.img file b4 i power off to make sure it hasn't changed but when i power off and it scans the zip it tells me the same. when i turn the phone back on and dump miscnew.img to check it the numbers change
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Bumble-Bee:
That's odd ... can u dump your misc as it is now and ill have a look at it for you :-)

Just post the file here :-)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] g1junky:
you want me to post my non-edited misc or the edited one? nevermind ill do both :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] g1junky:
heres both of the misc files
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] thatruth132:
i am having the same issue, no matter what i do i cant downgrade same old message of " older version"
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mattseg:
To clarify:

You can use this to re-add googles deleted via the paul o'brian method? This in turn will allow you to do the OTA or be safe(r) for perm root?

Before I do perm root I wanted to now I was on the best possible canvas.

EDIT: Answered my own question. http://android.modaco.com/content/t...ng-to-stock-1-19-before-applying-the-new-ota/ has instructions to go back to stock which includes goggles to get the OTA.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DyingBlade:
I'm already stuck at the first part. I got the adb shell ($ sign) but whenever I type SU, it says Permission Denied.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fearedbliss:
Alright, so now that we've got perma-root, I've been messing around with some basic ROMs. I successfully restored the shipping ROM on my G2 with no problem. I'm assuming that's because perma-root requires us to have S-OFF, which basically let's use flash any ROM, including restoring the shipping rom/radio without needing to do this anymore correct? (Asking for knowledge-sake, not to troll).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deejayhax:
The vibration issue stops with the downgrade. Also to note, DO NOT REINSTALL THE OTA when it asks you to. you'll just start vibrating again. This may be a hardware issue, so you might need the phone replaced anyway, but i'll post that once i get a new phone, or if they say anything about fixing these without the downgrade.

ALSO>

@DyingBlade: Are you using VISONary? if once you use it to "root now", you have to go back to your application list and run "superuser."

make sure its up and running when you try to "su" in the adb shell.

it will pop up an allow/deny prompt on your phone. once you allow it once, it will always let you su.

you shouldn't have any problems from there.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DyingBlade:
I have VISIONary installed and I ran "root now". After that I went back and opened up Super User. After that I went into my computer and put "adb shell" then SU and it still gives me Permission Denied...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Esteef:
It seems as if doing this removed the root. I'm going to have to re-root.

oh well :(
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kgood63:
it keep telling me device not recognized does anyone know where to get the drivers and how to install them.....darn i got drivers and cant install them
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] thenpaxtongoes:
I'm using this method to fix my phone after a CM flash has given me a boot loop and S-ON. When I get to the "dd if=/sdcard/miscnew.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p17" command it is unable to locate the miscnew.img file. Any ideas?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Zaldor:
This is a great guide - I'm stuck in the HTC green logo boot screen, and this should fix my problem.

BUT - the major problem i'm having is that ADB isn't seeing my device. The drivers are installed fine on the PC - i'm in HBOOT and ADB won't see it. If I do a FACTORY RESET from HBOOT, ADB recognizes the G2, but says it's OFFLINE. The factory reset doesn't help me either.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] touchpro247:
If your not rooted this guide will not work. If you are try to use adb in recovery mode.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Zaldor:
Well, I should have been rooted, I used visionary r12 to do perm-root, then rebooted and was left with nothing but the HTC.

If I took my phone to a T-mobile store, could they put the correct img on it? I can't believe that no one has given out a OTA img that I can flash to.

If I could get ADB to see the device, i'd probably be all good. i'm quite capable in doing the hex edits and commands - The question is, can the HBOOT or FASTBOOT help? or am I really screwed and it's a brick (which I find hard to believe)...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] unxconformed:
Is anyone else having issues with the PC10IMG zip being corrupted? I tried almost all of the mirrors but they all seem to be corrupted. I think a lot of those mirrors actually pull files from rapidshare. Also, the mega uploads file is missing...

EDIT: scratch that, the files are good, I was just being an idiot for a bit
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Phonekenstein:
Assuming you're in adb you may need to mount the sd card, but first check via these commands:

(might as well run as root)

su

(will display your mount points)

mount

(if the mount is missing, this will mount the sdcard to the original mount point & /sdcard symbolic link should work)

mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /mnt/sdcard

(find where & what you may have named the file, remember the operating system commands and files are case sensitive.)

cd /mnt/sdcard

find -iname *.img*

(dd may not like going through a symbolic link, so use the real mount point)

dd if=/mnt/sdcard/miscnew.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p17
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tazz9690:
I think this should get stickied

Worked flawlessly for when I had to reverse my permroot when I had an LED go out and needed to return it under buyer's remorse.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ddgarcia05:
Call me stupid but where on earth is the hex editior? I only get a link to another thread with no link on that page has a hex editior.

Edit: I LOVE YOU!!!!

Here's the link to the Hex Editior. http://www.chmaas.handshake.de/delphi/freeware/xvi32/xvi32.htm
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mleet1980:
will this lock down my device so I cant update it. i read it does. can anyone confirm this
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ddgarcia05:
I applied this early this morning to my device. It simply returned me back to complete stock. I was able to reroot my device using the same guide I've been using to root my device the 4 other times. I had no problem. I was able to make a nandroid backup of my stock rooted and baconbits. Of course this will unroot your device, but nothing is locked down. Just reapply the root and your good. Oh, and immediately after booting up for the first time it asked if wanted to apply the OTA update to my device, I accepted and it updated without a hitch.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] s10shane:
ok i got everything done but when it says "phone will scan for PD15IMG.zip and will ask you to flash it". it doesnt ask me to flash it so im lost. please help!

i have a mytouch 4g im trying to get back to stock 2.2 im going off these directions, which are based on these as well.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9084732&postcount=1
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] VeikkoK:
Ok, I just received my G2 and after update it started to vibrate. I would like to downgrade it now, but I don't know what to do.

I downloaded all programmes which are needed. Ran cmd typed all, saw the serial number, entered adb shell and then SU, but I received message SU permission denied. Phone was rooted before it as I see Superuser application on list and there stays Allow.

Any help?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] boyfrom75:
How Im going to do all that if my phone is dead, its not booting up..

My phone broke after using Visionary Permroot..

I can not do factory Reset because after the phone loads the factory img it get stuck in the HTC logo..

My HBOOT screens says the following

VISION PVT SHIP S-ON

HBOOT- 0.82.0000

MICROP-0425

RADIO-26.03.02.26_M

eMMc-boot

Sep 2 2010, 17:59:38
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hamish909:
Does this guide work for a unbranded European Desire Z?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
There is a DZ-specific guide at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=832503

If you use that downgrade then you can downgrade from one stock ROM to an earlier one (normally it won't let you downgrade). Though right now that won't work on the 1.72 ROMs because we can't temp root it yet, as I understand it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nsmoov:
Hey if you don't mind I can get my adb to work can someone give a misc.img file for the tmobile g2?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Damionix:
I am in the same exact situation. Please someone help us. I also got bricked with permaroot. Stupid? Yes.

But please is there a RUU, modified ROM? anything to get our phones back. We are pleading.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Dswag:
So this will completly unroot my phone?

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tazz9690:
If you used GFree you will still have s off.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Dswag:
I used visionary..

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tazz9690:
Then yes, you will be completely unrooted after this.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Dswag:
ok so i got to the part at the end with my phone flashing the PC10IMG.zip file, and while this was happening, my phone says "Update Fail!" "Press Power to reboot", yet i fixed the thing in hex editor...:(
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alvaritolalala:
I saw this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=822401

and I am wondering if anyone is working on a GSM port of it.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdh10475:
So I'm trying to flash Cyanogen 6.xx and I keep getting an error 7. Does any one know why I keep getting an error when tring to go to Cyanogen? To flash I'm using amon_ra recovery not sure what is causing the issue any help would be appreciated.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david279:
Do you have S-Off?

gave up on 8pening from my supersonic on the xda app.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdh10475:
How do I know?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
you probably need the engineering hboot, a quick google search will bring up a whole list of ways to fix this.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danielt021:
Hey I got 2.02 and can't downgrade, i tried thru boot loader and flashable zips but no luck, any idea how i can do it?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdh10475:
Thanks that worked the link is here in-case any one needs it in the future.

Its the HBoot in the first post the name of the .zip is: EVO_HBoot_0.76.2000.zip

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=752832
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkdude36:
In order to flash through pc36img.zip, you need toast's mtd-eng.img flashed to your misc partition. Pm me for questions on how to do this if you have any.

David, haus, it seems to me like we are the only ones really working in this section. Hah I see our three names in every other thread. I have waaay too much free time on my hands.
[EVO 4G Accessories] accelerus:
So most people are familiar with the seeming "bug" that if you slap in a huge extended battery (Seido 3600mAh one comes to mind) if you are charging via USB it would only charge up to the 50-60% mark

I'm seriously thinking about getting a sprint extended battery - but does this bigger battery suffer from the same "problem"

I know this one is Lithium Polymoer instead of Li Ion... does that change anything?

All I know is that I refuse to take my battery out every 24 or 36 hours to "wall charge" it directly.

Thanks in advance for you input!

J
[EVO 4G Accessories] looneylu:
Mine has been charging perfectly... have had it two days, and it's been great
[EVO 4G Accessories] accelerus:
thanks for the quick reply -- I'll try and pick one up here in the next few days. I'm sure I can take it back if the huge back or if i had any charging issues :)

would be nice to go 24 hours and not have to worry about the battery at all :)
[EVO 4G Accessories] looneylu:
I have loved it... i have been able to actually use my phone.... and i even had them credit me $20 for buying the battery
[EVO 4G Accessories] mr2man07:
You could have posted in the thread in this section, just a few posts down. But to answer your question, I have not had any issues yet. I know it drops by 3-4% a little quick (30 minutes - 1 hour) but that is the only major drop I see.
[EVO 4G Accessories] thacounty:
Li-Po is actually not going to change anything except that you can put more cells in the same size battery, therefore increasing the length between charges.
[EVO 4G Accessories] skydeaner:
Most of the LI-Ion batteries used in phones are LI-po now adays anyways. The orignial evo batteries are. and most of the extended batteries are as well.
[EVO 4G Accessories] PGRtoo:
Actually, they haven't used Li-Ion batteries in most consumer electronics for several years but the name has become a generic descriptor for an entire family of cells which include LiPos.

The complete name for LiPo is lithium-ion polymer and they differ from lithium-ion cells in several ways including:

The electrolyte in a Li-Ion cell is a gel (liquid) while the electrolyte in a LiPo cell is a solid polymer.

The layers in a Li-Ion cell need to be tightly compressed so they're typically rolled and housed in a tight-fitting cylindrical case, but the layers in a LiPo cell don't require that compression which is why they can be manufactured in that handy flat form factor so easily.

The nominal working voltage of Li-Ion cells is 3.6V and it's 3.7V for LiPo cells.

LiPo cells have a higher energy density (capacity/weight) than Li-Ion cells.

LiPo cells can be charged and discharged at significantly higher rates than Li-Ion cells.

The bottom line is any small consumer electronics battery pack which is flat and square and is marked as 3.7V (or a multiple of that number for multi-cell series-wired packs) is a LiPo pack regardless of what it says on the pack or in the literature.

Pete
[EVO 4G Accessories] illogic6:
I have owned both batteries and I'm quite familiar with the bug OP is referring to. I can say unequivocally this battery has the same issues the 3500mah Seidio battery does. If you charge this battery, while the phone is on, to max and then unplug, you will watch your charge drop from full to in the 60s in the first hour or two. The drain then tapers off significantly at that point.

I haven't really had an opportunity to put this one through it's paces yet and it may stabilize over time. I'm thinking that this new one might provide the same amount of battery life as the Seidio 3500mah one due to this bug.

EDIT: See my post on the following page. The battery/system seems to have calibrated itself.
[EVO 4G Accessories] looneylu:
You mean to tell me that this battery was a waste of money for me? If so, let me know. It will go back tomorrow
[EVO 4G Accessories] SpezXVII:
Strange, I don't have this issue at all and I've had the battery for almost a week. It tends to drain quickly to 95% then level out.
[EVO 4G Accessories] illogic6:
My second charge drained to about 60% just like the first. I just pulled it off the charger for the third time early this morning and I am not noticing the drain anymore. I'm thinking it must have calibrated itself.

I've been off the charger for 1 hour 50 mins and I still have 93% remaining! :D

This is much more like the stock battery. If it continues to act this way, this battery beats the Seidio one by a mile. It's been a couple months since I've used the EVO. Has something been changed in the CyanogenMod Supersonic kernel to support extended batteries?
[EVO 4G Accessories] looneylu:
Shouldn't it be draining slower than stock battery?
[EVO 4G Accessories] PAPutzback:
I ahve the Seidio battery and I have never seen the battery drop to 60 percent or anything else like what people are saying. I am on CM 6 RC1 but even with any of the other dozen ROMs I have never had an issue. If my battery dropped to 60 percent a short time after unplugging it I would have sent it back the same day.
[EVO 4G Accessories] wingzfan:
I charged my battery from 5% to full last night via usb charge. I pulled it this morning at 7:00 and it dropped to 93% quick mainly because it was on the charger well after it had reached 100%. Since 7 am Its dropped as it should. Im currently at 71% 8 1/2 hours later. So I wouldnt say all of these batteries have the 3500 seidio issue. What rom is everyone whos having the issue running?
[EVO 4G Accessories] illogic6:
They may have fixed something in the kernel recently to avoid this. Look up the old threads about the 3500mah battery. The battery calibration issues were universal.
[EVO 4G Accessories] illogic6:
The EVO stops charging at 100% and will not charge until it drains back to about 90%. The phone will continue to show "full" until you pull the plug. It will then show the true charge level.
[EVO 4G Accessories] looneylu:
Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't read your previous post, I guess
[EVO 4G Accessories] napsterdj:
So do you guys suggest to get this instead of the Seidio ?
[EVO 4G Accessories] Compusmurf:
Someone take a logcat dump and look at the battery parameters of charging/not charging and you'll know if they've fixed the issue or not.

The meter will self adjust to the 1500Mah based on voltage and you think you'll get a full charge but you won't. Slapping it into an external battery charger after "fully" charging it thru the evo will open your eyes to the issue.

Here's hoping, now there's a sprint official "OEM" class extended battery that they'll get HTC to compile in additional battery drivers other than just the 1500mah one it shipped with.

Sorry folks, if you can't charge it externally, you're not going to get the FULL capability of the battery. There are ways to tricking it into taking more. Charge it fully with phone on, unplug, power it off, charge some more, unplug power on, charge more, etc.

This will continue to add just a little bit more to help bring it up, but you'll never get it full unless you can charge externally or HTC adds devices.

You can pull the source code yourself and confirm this info. You can also confirm the issue still exists with an external charger.
[EVO 4G Accessories] drtic:
If I finish charging and batery meter shows me 4,2V is battery full charged or not?

htc evo 4G
[EVO 4G Accessories] PGRtoo:
Well let's put it this way: Trying to charge a LiPo battery beyond 4.2V is a real good way to get to know your local fire department:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OsBc8RqSKU

I linked to this video because it's nice and short. The guy triggered the event with physical damage, but you can get the same results by overcharging them. Just search YouTube for "lipo fire" for pages and pages of examples.

For what it's worth, LiPo powered consumer electronics have redundant safeguards in their charging circuits to prevent you from overcharging them so you probably couldn't do that if you tried. In my opinion, the charging issues we are experiencing are the result of HTC erring a little too far on the side of caution to that end.

Pete
[EVO 4G Accessories] drtic:
Nice video, really wouldn't like to have real experience like this when I calling.lol

Back to topic. I have seido 3500 mAh and typically charging takes 1:40h when light is green. Battery is about 3,9V. And charging continue next 1h until 4,2V.

So my theory is charging that battery is ok, only u shouldn't trust green/red diode. Only real voltage of battery if we accept fact that 4,2V is full charged battery .

htc evo 4G
[EVO 4G Accessories] looneylu:
what do you use to read the voltage?
[EVO 4G Accessories] drtic:
Information about voltage shows many app. For example battery widget from HTC. I use battery snap. Perfect for charging/discharging log.

htc evo 4G
[EVO 4G Accessories] sturgs75:
The lipo issue

Hello all,

I have a few bits of insite for everyone. First off the lipo batterries in the video on you tube are for radio control vehicles. I know tis since I have about 7 of them. Those are c-cell batteries. There also the same batteries you have to heat in order to charge correctly. They actually make heat wraps in order for those to charge with out haveing a issue. Another issue with those is they are used for high drain applications for the electric motors they run.

I work as a mechanic for a semi company and as a test I tried to jump a truck that would not start with a extreme high capacity dual battery pack from one of my radio control units guess what it actually worked. It produced enough volatage to take two vehicle batteries one at 11.4 volts and the other at 9.6 volts give a enough poer to equal 14volts to start the rig.

So these 2600 lipo batteries that they use for sprint for one should not do enough damage to truley cuase a fire like seen on those videos.

Secondly the charging rate is so slow they dont get hot enough to produce the heated chemical reaction to cause this issue.

Now with that said I would highly recommend not leaving your phone in a car in the summer charging where it will produce enough heat to cause the reaction. Since these batteries rely on heat to start the reaction to creat the power dont do anything that would cuase it to happen faster.

Also one last thing about the bug. I have been looking and talkign to people there is a recal for the battery on the phone. After you have charged the battery a few times and let it discharge aka battery dump for lipo applications, i am hearing a back up of the phone then a hard reset is needed for the phoen to recal to the new battery.

Anyways I hope this helps some people oh and for those who think lith ion doesnt exist your wrong lipo is not a standard in anything it is a upgrade. Lipo is newer technoligy since about 4 to 5 years ago in the hobby field and even they are changing back to lith ion. Due to safety issue lipo is controlled and is a upgrade only after being fully tested for the application.

Also lipo packs do not get a memory. I have one pack I have used for 3 years for a model i have and i never charge it the right way yet I have not lost any battery life at all. Does it get hottter faster yes but no battery memeory.

Reasearch things before you buy anything but just becuase it is on the web doesnt make it fact!!! just means it is someones opinion. So make your own opinions and mine is there good and fine if you treat them accordingly and make sure you understand the limitations.:)
[EVO 4G Accessories] Bigjim1488:
I picked up the best buy version of the 3500 battery made by I believe the siedio company just under a different name. No charging issues here. I went with the best buy one because I figured I would pay a little extra to be able to go to an actual store if I had any issues.

Sent from my Evo while i should be working