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[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
hahahaha chill out dude, why the anger :D

I'm not going to respond to the immature comments and leave you alone :)

Back to reality....

as I understand Sony Ericsson is now working on two major projects, PS phone and X11 :cool: , hmmmm we must wait for the official statement from SE.

I guess we will have a tough competition for these three products :D
[XPERIA X10 General] NightSidew1nd3r:
Its hardly se fault that your provider "tricked" you lol. That has nothing to do with se. All documentation I have seen from se has been 100% accurate.
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
Totally agree SE if not out & out lied at least benefited from the confusion, MT being a good example. SE could have made it very clear before the release of the phone MT is not hardware supported, but instead their US website said MT display for the longest time.

The length of time it took for them to release 2.1 is laughable having now used it for a few days. It is more notable for what it doesn't have then what it does. They spent most of the time taking stuff out like Exchange support, hiding the default 3D Gallery & music apps, & of course MT. Moxier is OK for corporate Exchange support but the built in Exchange support would have been nice for Gmail, Hotmail etc, WTH did the take it out.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bwyan Benton:
I will either get this phone or something from HTC. Depends on what's out at the time of this release. Im a big picture/video taking person, so Ill see whats best at the time im about to buy a new phone...I believe Im actually due for my upgrade now, but Im gonna hold off as Im very satisfied with my X10 w/2.1
[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
They did made it clear though :)

Through many conferences and web-sites. I'm surprised that it wasn't clear in the US market that it can't support MT
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
Did they say that the hardware doesn't support MT & the x10 will never have it before the launch, or was it after so people wouldn't expect it with the 2.1 upgrade?

My disappointment with the X10 is not because of one big missing feature but the way SE has screwed up communicating with their customers, & the length of time it has taken to roll out 2.1. I had a N1 running 2.1 & what SE has given us is stock 2.1 minus the stuff they took out, Timescape & Mediascape are the only real additions & hardly worth the delay IMO.
[XPERIA X10 General] njao:
thats my new phone if they dont release a similar WP7 device! i really want to give WP7 a try!
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
Exactly. No reason for this to have taken so long. The low volume problem also was not corrected despite the device being capable of outputting much higher sound.

If you don't live in North America then that would be why. ****ing drop it. WE were grossly misinformed in North America. If you were not, then you are lucky. We had the misfortune of being directly lied to, by SE as well as our providers, so we had no reason to question them.

What sort of consumer would randomly pitch questions about a company's integrity regarding something random like MT, camera flash and a very basic level of support for their flagship product? I suppose that's half-rhetoric now. Now previous SE customers will know to question this company. I was unfortunately not privy to their ****ty practices. I've never purchased such a disappointing product or service in my life. This is astounding.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
So what is your point exactly? You got tricked by them? Tough luck. I think you'd be better off advising people not to buy SE products rather than whining about it to people who already have the X10 and are mostly happy with it.

I'm not saying that I haven't faced the same situations you mentioned. My provider told me it had a flash as well. I just use it as a reading light :)

And the in call volume - I call my provider every 2 months or so and ask them to reset my network connection - that fixes it very well
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
You mentioned that in a previous thread too. Does it stop working after a certain period of time? I'm really interested to know.

I'm going to do a chat session with them after work to see if we can get an improvement now that their branded 2.1 is out. I'd probably be less sour if I could hear out of my damn phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] I7redd:
...maybe it has a multi-touch variable vibration setting. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Yeah lol that was with 1.6 though

With Nordic 2.1 so far its been 2 weeks and the in call volume has been great.. I don't even turn it up to full volume anymore. Hopefully it stays that way
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
I tried it again last night and it still didn't work.

I have a question about the liquid damage indicator though. Is yours white with red polka dots? Mine is. But then again it's always been that way. I was going to replace it but the TSR couldn't find a definitive answer on this and told me go to a Rogers store. I want to replace this if possible, but not if their ****ty super sensitive litmus paper is going to nail me with a $500 charge.
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
I find both earpiece volume and speaker volume is somewhat louder but I also find the audio more distorted. IMO the speaker and earpiece are crappy & can't handle the higher levels.
[XPERIA X10 General] ookiller:
Not this time Sony! In fact never again! GTFO!
[XPERIA X10 General] jayluke:
Same here. I bought my X10 in April and have watched a lot of my friends buy newer phones with 2.1 already installed. Its pathetic that we're just now getting 2.1 on this device. Sony Ericsson should be fu$%^ing ashamed of themselves. Never buying another SE phone again.
[XPERIA X10 General] mith500:
not looking good guys

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-x12-en.shtml
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
ok, before u guys start jumping rage from that link, unless u've been in this industry long enough, u should know how MR stands on SE products. I can assure that more than 30% of the info he gave out is incorrect. In fact, his prototype is the 1st set, not what other devs have at the moment. That means the specification he has is more outdated than our X10 1.6 (seriously). Just be patience and believe whatever is announced, not from super ridiculously early prototype.
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
x12

I wonder who we should believe, an SE fanboy or an accomplished tech blog saying that SE are about to release yet another mediocre phone for a premium price.

Judging from their history, and by that I mean x1, x2, satio, vivaz, x10, I think we can safely assume that mobile review are right on the money.

I for one never even for a second believed the rumours that the phone would launch with Gingerbread. That's like SE going from the 3rd division to the 1st after just one season...simply impossible. Well at least my worst fears that the phone would launch with 2.1 have been removed... or have they?
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
U're making it sound like i totally contradict MR. I wouldn't argue if i were u if u don't even know how many versions of dev phones there are. I didn't say he's all wrong, but many are misleading. Believe what you want, but it's just a fact by now about their articles. :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] D3sRtH4mmR:
Agree with unknown13x, still early days and this is just a "test mule". If Sony Ericsson truly want to become the global number one handset provider on the Android platform I doubt they're going to give us another X10 with a different name.
[XPERIA X10 General] mith500:
didn't eldar use to love SE products before?

I remember a time when he was the main guy (not that he isnt now) to get rumors and answer questions specifically about new SE phones, specs etc..
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
FYI Eldar did not write the article, but we do see from the number of articles that's SE related that it's been declining there, why? u can guess the reasons yourself. Should we base our opinion on a very first prototype? I doubt not. We all have seen it with the other models how horrible it looks on first prototypes, material wise and specification wise.

There's still alot of info about Anzu that has not been let out and I wonder why the author didn't dish it out? If it was Eldar, he might dish it out, but he didn't, so he's holding on to info that the author does not know about. That means there's still alot of gap in the info, and wait out the opinion until it is officially announced.
[XPERIA X10 General] jayluke:
I'm not basing my opinion on a prototype when I say this; I'm basing it on what I've seen with the X10, and what I've heard from others regarding other SE phones:

I can't say that this phone won't sell well (that all depends on the marketing behind it, and maybe a little stupidity on the part of consumers), but I will say that it's going to suffer the same problems my X10 did. It will take SE forever to roll out subsequent versions of the OS, and tech-savy consumers will be sorely dissappointed.

Ai gree with this, from the MR article: "The software disadvantages will only disappoint the buyers of the device."
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
What SE need to realise (and I hope that they will show that they have when they officially announce the x12).. is that the Android consumer market works like this..

Techs want tech in a high end phone.

Techs write for mobile phone sites/ mags etc..

Companies that sell phones research to figure out what's hot.. and what's not... they read reviews as part of that.

Tech Consumers read reviews and research the market before buying..

Non-tech consumers are more and more starting to "google" their next purchase and also reading the reviews

Non-tech consumers talk to the people in the shops they buy their phone from

So at the end of the day, if SE wants to sell phones to anyone, and wants to compete in this market.... they really have to make their phones the best tech packed gadget you can get.. people will really pay for that.

So if the x12 comes out with a faster processor, more memory, better display, most up to date s/w and they throw in a few SE touches too to make it look like an SE phone... it will sell better than anything they've ever done before (at least in recent years)..

Here endeth the lesson!
[XPERIA X10 General] D3sRtH4mmR:
Hear, Hear!
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] woohoo70:
i was looking on the market for a good gps navigation for my galaxy s when i saw the galaxy tab navigon free program so i tried to install it and it works great here in Australia.I not sure if this is common knowledge but is was news to me ,once the programed installed it downloaded Australia map

i have 2.2 rooted phone but looks like its only for Australia & NZ
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] yud:
doesn't run on rooted 2.1.

error says it's intended for specific devices and cannot run on my device.

:-(
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Jeshter2000:
Could you provide a link to it ?

Sent from my Intergalactic Supah Dupah Spaceship¡¡!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] woohoo70:
just look for navigon in the market
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] SargeRX8:
Doesn't run on non rooted 2.1 sgs either
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Idan73:
Not everyone can see it on the market so can you copy it from data/app folder and post here?

Sent from my i9000M
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] woohoo70:
how do i do that?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] bri.s:
Its £50 in the UK.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Idan73:
Root explorer and go to data/app folders and find navigon

Sent from my i9000M
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] woohoo70:
keep getting upload failed will try after some sleep
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Naiefz:
Its a real shame cause i have the app but due to the fact that i live in Saudi, the actual service is not available, so back to iphone navigon app :-(
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Maddmatt:
Using both Appbrain and the Market app, I can't find it. Appbrain shows a paid app for the US and Market doesn't find anything.

Is this limited to certain countries or something? I'm in South Africa.

Would really appreciate a free Navigation app instead of the hacked Google Navigation...
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] imparator:
It keeps fcín on connecting to server. Rooteded, 341MB rom with al tweaks en ext4 lagfix
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Billus:
It is only free in Australia and New Zealand. App is xcalled MobileNavigator Samsung and maps are provided by Navteq. App is intended for Galaxy Tab.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] dckiwi:
We're all sorted then!
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] xmfpdlemalnz@hotmail.com:
I live in New zealand but can't find it on the market.

I guess it's cos I have JPO XEU firmware.

Can anyone please post the app here?

I hear it's free in New Zealand.

thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] catsa:
Don't see it in the market, only have Navigon System Check.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Hravz:
free nav

if you cant get this to work try brut maps. its a hacked version of google nav that says your in the usa so it works in aus
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] oswade:
Awesome. It's downloading the maps for me now :) Running JPA (Darky's steel mod) with Optus CSC applied and original OPS product code.

I'll dump and upload the apk later today if anyone wants it (it probably (?) only works in australia/nz though).
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] dckiwi:
Yep keen as. Can't see it on market, JPP doc v7.6.2
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] chase_bennett:
Woo, its downloading the maps now. 15% after 10 mins on a 10Mbit connection. I was able to see it in the market. I have 2.2 JPM on the Optus network.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] nicoloco:
that's awesome !!

Downloaded in only few mn ....

I really liked it on the iphone and I'm sure I'll like it on the Samsung.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] chase_bennett:
Wow! Great app! It makes the phone look and feel like a real GPS device, and because it has its own maps it doesn't lag when your moving along.

Every Aussie/Kiwi should have it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] xmfpdlemalnz@hotmail.com:
plz upload apk!!

I've been looking for a gps app for ages.

I think this is it!

Also can anyone with fast internet upload NZ map?

with slingshot, it take ages for me to download the map..
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] marvinhemstock:
please please upload apk,

would love this, all day.

please share :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] nicoloco:
Ok I upload it

I did the backup with titanium so I put the 3 files ( properties, tar, apk) on a 7zip files

http://www.multiupload.com/61CP31Q9G7
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] itenos:
For everyone who wants to download it just set Market Enabler to custom value 50502 and it will pop up in your market.

It installs perfectly on 2.1 firmware JM9 but upon launching it says that it is not intended to be used on this device. You need 2.2 running on it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] aditya104:
Is the size of maps really 2gb? can't i jst install map of Australia?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] nicoloco:
looks like the size is 162.85M for Australia and 18.84M for NZ

That's very small isn't it ??
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Fornowagain:
Yeah you use 'Navigon Fresh', register an account and just select the map you want. It dl's to the phone in mass storage mode. Keep an eye on the dl folder, for some odd reason only works with SD\Navigon not \Navigon
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] SargeRX8:
Wont work on my SGS in Aus :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] FL00DY:
WOW awesome thanks so much for this :) Working and maps downloaded. I had paid for Sygic but think I'll like this better.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] xmfpdlemalnz@hotmail.com:
did anyone from nz get this thing working?

I downloaded the apk file uploaded on previous page of this thread,

and when i download the map, it seems it's downloading australia maps which is huge.

I also downloaded navigon fresh and installed it on my computer but again, the software only recommends to install Navigon Australia Q3/2010.

Does anyone know how to install New Zealand maps?

I hear it's only 18mbs.

Can some1 plz upload it or guide me on this matter?

cheers in advance
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] FL00DY:
Was the New Zealand.map file not in this download? You can't select to download just one, you have to get both. And yes looking at the Map folder, NZ is 18.84mb and Aus 162.85mb. Also, it doesn't support moving to SD.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] xmfpdlemalnz@hotmail.com:
oh was it included in the zip file?

I just transferred apk file and tried to download the map myself.

I'm really sorry to bother you but could you tell me how to apply these .tar and .properties files?

I only know thow to install .apk files..

thanks alot for your help
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] FL00DY:
I dont have a clue, I just used my companies wifi to download the maps ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] xmfpdlemalnz@hotmail.com:
oh ok. But when you downloaded Australia maps, was New Zealand maps included as well?

I would like to find out first before I download it ay.

Australia maps are huge and I don't want to waste my data on it lol.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] FL00DY:
Yup it sure was, I have both files in my maps folder ;) but yeah I'd suggest you download it over wifi.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] brizzle1986:
Are there USA maps?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] dckiwi:
Nope... need to move downunder!

A) it's nearly summer

B) you get free maps

:)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] whiteb1:
There are <Cough> places <Cough> that supply USA maps, except the ones i have seen, colorado is corrupt. (I am expecting someone in the USA to make a joke about that).
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] aditya104:
Navigation App for free which works very well. Tried this today. I don't need the NZ maps so I deleted that and it works fine in Australia.

I think its been accidentally offered in the market for free. They might charge for this app soon. There is no other such app which is free.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] killercownz:
Awesome ... thanks to uploader, works a treat from my lounge, though a bit disconcerting that it says I am travelling at between 1-4km/h :confused:

Still, cant complain when our options in nz for free nav are next to nothing :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] whiteb1:
The only "Offer" I can find in conjunction with Navigon and Android is a reduced Fee (39 Pounds, instead of 59 or something).

If Market wants to charge me for it after the 30 days, then they are free to do so.

They only have a Prepaid Visa card on record, which opened with AU$20, has around $10 left now.

When I installed this from Market, it said "FREE" in the price area, and the description says NOTHING about a trial period or being charged after.

I set my clock to Christmas day 2010 and it still ran ok.

Check the Comments, people said they use Galaxy S, despite the item description stating "IMPORTANT: ONLY FOR GALAXY TAB"
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] aditya104:
Well those of us who have already downloaded this in Aus/NZ will continue to enjoy it for free even if the company decides to charge for it later on. ;)

Strange though, that it is not even discoverable in other countries.

Now I want to download another country's map and try to use it in that country when I go overseas.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] dckiwi:
I don't think he meant charge us at a later date, rather they might start charging to download it (rather than free) in the app store.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] whiteb1:
Oh right, yes i think this is a limited offer, or a fault that will soon be fixed.

But if it was only a free APP when first installed, but you have to subsequently reinstall it again and its then a PAID app, what then ?

Good grounds to back it up with Ti or something. That way you get the APK, its data, and Market link. Seems my Ti backup doesn't include the maps, might have to back them up separately.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] nicoloco:
I am a little bit disappionted by the app compared to the one on the iphone

Ok, it's free and I am more than happy to have it !! But I don't understand why most of the app are just not as good as they are on the iphone ??

Maybe it will be updated ( for free ???)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] oswade:
Ok, the maps are quite nice, but I can't seem to get voice navigation working properly 0_0..
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Joghurtbecher:
As a tip for German SGS owners with a T-mobile sim card at hand that they don't actually use in their SGS. You get can download a special Navigon version from the market in Germany called "Navigon Select". It will only start, if a T-mobile sim card is in the phone but then you are able to download German maps without the need to visit shady websites ;). I don't know if those maps work with this aussie version and I can't test it, since I'm at uni right now. If it does work however, I'd be quite nice since Navigon Select requires a T-moblie sim but the aussie one runs with every carrier.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] oswade:
Theres already an update to 3.5.1 now lol. It better still work on the sgs afterwards >_>

EDIT: yep it works, I backed up the apk just in case they pulled a shiftY and blocked the sgs lol. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] woohoo70:
i also updated no probs but i think i will keep a backup of original file just in case
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] aditya104:
Voice navigation works fine here.

Thanks for letting me knw that the update is good. Now updating.

How do u backup the apk? Using Root Explorer?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] 0301chris:
in Europe - worked fine. But three major shortcomings of the software:

1) Navigon Fresh does not allow me to purchase any other cards

2) No function supported to install the maps on external card under Froyo (something that you can do with copilot but not with NDrive or Navigon)

3) It does not display maps w/o GPS activated - so being in Europe it does not display maps regardless...I can not even explore Australian cities etc. something that both copilot and NDrive have enabled (i.e. playing with the maps even if GPS is not on and you are in a different region)

thanks for the tip anyway!
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] goughymachine:
If you have a look at the Navigon Australia site you can click on Android navigation. There it says that Navigon is provided by Samsung for Samsung devices (doesn't specifically mention it's for the Tab only, though there is a picture of the Tab on the screen). Appears it's free, but is missing some options which you can purchase as an add-on. Text to Speech is an extra $9.95au, and some other features are available too.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] whiteb1:
What benefit does Text to speech give me when I am driving at 110kph ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] SargeRX8:
Cmon can anyone help? I'm from Australia, non branded SGS, 2.1, not rooted, Voodoo lagfix.

I cant get this to run. It says its only for specific devices.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] icejagans:
Thought it was only for 2.2?
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] woohoo70:
I think its only for 2.2 not 100% sure but looks that way just wait for official update any day now, then you should be able to use it
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] Lawliett:
I don't see it either.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] whiteb1:
Specific Devices is the key.., Specific Devices running 2.2 (Froyo).

I installed (And ran) this software fine with Doc's 7.6.2
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] cheetah2k:
There is now an update on android market.

Does it still work on the SGS even after updating?? I have a funny feeling that Navigon has done something to stop it working in the SGS, and restricted it to only Galaxy Tab
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] whiteb1:
LOL, yes it works, although I did run Ti backup before updating it just in case, but yes it works, just got home from the shops and tested it out.

Amy still says "Please" to me (My name for the female voice).