yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] consolation:
If you look at the screen caps you will see that 2.2 is running the old 2.1 sony kernel. Until the bootloader gets cracked our 2.2 will be a hybrid 2.1 with lots of 2.2 backported. Not sure what the implications are, but the big change going from .1 to .2 was the kernel jump from 2.6.29 to 2.6.32; .29 is getting rather long in the tooth by linux kernel standards.

So, a clean 2.1 with correct kernel might work out better than 2.1/2 mashup.

iirc, The sony 2.1 has a few 2.2 bits in it already, like 2.2 market for example.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mezo9090:
For me, I'll make sure I test drive both roms and then I'll make my decision :-)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chiefy009:
Makes sense that 2.1 would run quicker in that case

Sent from my rooted x10i
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chiefy009:
I think i will run with the 2.1 ROM and just what how the 2.2ROM plays out

Sent from my rooted x10i
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] consolation:
Time will tell...

I'm more concerned about apps hooking into the kernel expecting .32 and finding .29.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chiefy009:
That's a good point could this affect some apps performance do you think? Even though my knowledge is limited i could see how this may cause problems.

Sent from my rooted x10i
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] deconfrost:
I seen some devices did get a massive boost in performance.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Hypercore:
Yeah, exactly. My x10 passes the Nexus One 2.1 on Quadrant but the Nexus One with 2.2 is on top.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Udonitron:
Precisely!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dk2000zx:
Im sure tomorrow morning, when ill get my daily XDA dose ill see updates! :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] SparX_59:
I should be in bed, but i will wait a little more ;)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chiefy009:
It becomes addictive, the watching and f5 bashing :-)

Sent from my rooted x10i
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] trixter66:
erm........back to the topic at hand-----?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] will.m:
How about this:

I like mediascape and think that it isn't a horrible app. It'd be nice to see a cooked rom with it. I also kinda like the new power and call widget. ;)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Udonitron:
Well said & I would have to agree :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chiefy009:
I like the power control widget. Not keen on much else SE apps or widgets, infact everything else i have other apps/widgets for. The SE stuff is just taking up room

Sent from my rooted x10i
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] will.m:
And I agree that your defense of your "joke" is weak.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] trixter66:
Its gunna be interesting to see how to install these roms once they are out.The HTC recovery type of install would be cool but I think we are all just wanting them to be released now.Keep up the good work J and Z.You guys rock
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Hott Dogg:
Guys, If you want SE software on 2.1 custom rom (I don't know if it will work on 2.2) you can backup it with Titanium Backup and then restore it

I think Mediascape can be restored in this way
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mrtim123:
Removed off-topic per user's RP

Pulser_g2

now, back on topic. Has anyone actually played with a vanilla froyo rom'd phone? ive not yet and am wondering what the vanilla apps are like. anyone got screens?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] raecarter82:
The hero has been running froyo on a eclair kernel for months and it works fine
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] fightingroost12:
3g problems =\
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dk2000zx:
Thats just you. The majority hates it
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chiefy009:
Damn 3g issues!!!!! Fingers crossed weekend release

Sent from my rooted x10i
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] bongd:
Seriously, drop it, bro. I'm eager to see some progression in this thread and don't want it getting derailed. The other guy doesn't give a **** either. You win.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Contrarian:
I think the differences between 2.6.29 and 2.6.32 would be minimal, so in reality you shouldn't see a huge improvement in performance. Most changes would relate to compatibility issues for new hardware.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Meikrekel:
And i agree that I hope you finally shut up so we can go back to the topic! Thanks in advance
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Vilam:
I also think mediascape is not a bad app but I don't want it on custum rom to let people choose to restaure with titanium =)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mrtim123:
agreed! MS certainly does the job but the whole point of a custom rom is that it has none of the Manufacturer/Carrier bloatware on it. Sleek and fast and you can tweek it as required.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Z3X:
I would love MS if it had a widget...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] pulser_g2:
I have deleted a fair amount of what amounts to junk and off-topic just now.

Let this be a warning. Take it to PM, or stop it. Any more derailing of the thread and those responsible will be warned or banned.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] zdzihu:
I'll just leave this picture here...

Goodnight :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] consolation:
You can look up the changelogs easily enough. They are quite significant. It's not just android's kernel you know.

Sent from my tower using carrier pigeon.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] paasoares:
zdzihu,

1882 in quadrant.......this is insane !!!!!

:):):):):):)

GREAT JOB
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] chris_knows:
@zdzihu, is that overclocked? That number is ridiculously high! Congrats!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] cheesywad:
i've never posted...just read and enjoyed and learned but....

OH...MY...GOD!!!

we bow down before gods... :eek:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] aebilo630:
HAHAHAHA! Same here. Literally almost dropped a 2 when i saw that bench.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] casianm:
Omg, that benchmark! Beast!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Z3X:
That's without a custom unlocked kernal. What the ****.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mbrad_26:
I just can't believe that:)))
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Udonitron:
That is one hell of a tiiiiiight score lol. Cannot wait!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] BingoRingo:
The popularity of this thread is probably in correlation with the insatisfaction level of Sony Ericsson by X10 users.

I hope they learn from it.

And that benchmark is really impressive, especially against the "real" X10.....!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] cheesywad:
Ahhhh photoshop is brilliant innit

no i'm joking...really...really really.

i may have soiled myself with excitement - need a lie down :)

Awwwwwesome work!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Z3X:
It really narrows down to Sony vs. Community/Developers.

Hmmm I wonder who is winning...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
What!! :)

I can't wait for the roms to be finished now...

The I/O value is really high, and the cpu value is similar to the Nexus One's, so I actually don't think its been overclocked, but that the internals are 'wired better', am I right?

Or is it the filesystem or NAND speed?

Hmmm...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Udonitron:
Well I think some devs from Sony might be lurking and loving this, secretly cheering "go guys go" but Sony most likely has turned their backs...in shame. Making and launching an OS obsolete phone and then abandoning it after one update...for shame!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Z3X:
With the pay checks they get? I dought it.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mrtim123:
Dude!! Awesome!!

is this on the 2.1 rom or the 2.2 rom you are working on? i am assuming its the 2.2 rom but correct me if im wrong - are you still using the old kernel? If so, this will only get better and better! Great Work :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] owain94:
2.2 ofcourse :rolleyes:

and still old kernel yes still not cracked badly :(

one question is this gonna be available for mini and mini pro?

i read almost the whole thread didn't find the answer :P

Owain
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Crzycracka:
Still a Nub

I am a recent converted iPhone user that is still very new to the Droid scene. That being said I had a round with the Samsung Captivate but due to a bad batch of hardware AT&T sent me an X10. I did now know that they were stuck on 1.6 at the time. I am now running 2.1 thanks to the help of some buddies and this forum. So all that being said, I dont understand all of the issues with the X10 and why we are just getting 2.1 @ the same time that 2.2 is out on most of the other phones. Will there be continued dev for 2.1 or will most just go on to 2.2 (fingers crossed for an awesome 2.2 rom). I really miss my 2.2 that was on the Captivate and the ease of flashing the roms on that phone. Will the X10 have Clockwork Mod or something similar? Are custom roms being held up because the recovery mode is disabled? Will we have to rely on Odin? The picture of the benchmark score gives me some hope because that is close to what my Galaxy was at and it was fast but my 575 score on my phone now is killing me :mad: (I am sure others feel my pain). Sorry for all of the questions and the nubness. Any clarity would be greatly appreciated.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ///MEDO:
One Word : Amazing :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Udonitron:
Yeah if Sony would have just unlocked the bootloader at the beginning like Nexus did, the community for this phone would be huge. Dumb move for ANY company to do regarding an open sourced OS. I think they do not understand what open source means :(
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] FRAPSROOTET:
Saw this coming ;)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] W_FJr:
After see this bench ... Definively some SE programmers should lost their jobs and be replaced by some guys of this post.

Good work.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Nankov:
I still cant pick up my jaw :eek: walking around like a zombie dragging my jaw on the floor limbing :eek: :eek: :eek: :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Nankov:
Delete pls
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Cablekevin:
Am i the only one who finds it ironically that the SE X10i is in that list, almost at the bottom. Can't wait! Great to see the scene light up like this.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Hypercore:
Dammit, now I need new underwear...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] dk2000zx:
WOW WE Actually OWN the Nexus one on 2.2 thats AM.a.Z..I.N.G!!!!! Can't wait for this thing, but on 2.2 is it the 2.2 cyanogen which includes PROXY settings for WIFI?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] BingoRingo:
Well, officially they haven't abandoned the phone. Maybe in 2012 we'll have SE's 2.2.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mezo9090:
Don't forget.. on the old kernal ;-)

I think the only thing left on the 2.2 rom now is the camera ? Did you check the 3g connection ? ;-)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mrtim123:
yerp! onwards and upwards :) This is what we have all been waiting for!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] telmoabff:
A picture is worth a thousand words!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mezo9090:
Now I want them to crack the bootloader more :-P

Ain't that greedy ? :-)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mrtim123:
how good will it be once that happens! we owe these guys (all all the other Devs) so much:D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mezo9090:
I think this one worth more than a thousand LOL

We are literally unleashing the phone,s full potential ..
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Udonitron:
You need to read the "whole" thread then lol :p. They already said it is for the X10I & a only right now.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mezo9090:
Man they just restored my phone's value after I thought it lost its value ... xda dev .... I OWE YOU BIG TIME !
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Udonitron:
Yeah the price of the X10's have REALLY dropped over the past month on eBay

Imagine what the new LG dual core Android phone's Quadrant score would be on a vanilla install....good god.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mezo9090:
Don't talk about these till 2011

BTW: don't go off-topic ;-)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Udonitron:
LOL hey...it is still about custom ROM's, Quadrant scores, and I am allowed to "imagine" :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] h.boushi1987:
actually i like my x10 already and with custom roms it would be great how cares about dual core processor our phones is already fast

Sent from my X10i
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Udonitron:
Oh I agree...I was ready to sell mine but now I will hang on to it for a while.

You say that now ;) but tell me if you feel the same in 4 months :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] bustervic:
Preparing Paypal donation....

I am so impressed at what has been done here...

Both 2.1 and 2.2 are using the stock camera interface?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] FelipeRRM:
WHAAAAAAAAT

THIS IS AMAAAZZZZZINNNNNNNNNNG

If they could only implement MT.... I would call you beyond-gods, because you are already gods lol.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] VMaxxor:
So lets compare:

This test is run with the SE 2.1 + JIT Nordic ROM

jerpelea's screenshot 1882 vs 2.1 640

CPU 5101 vs 1497

MEM 808 vs 890

IO 2888 vs 348

2D 256 vs 166

3D 356 vs 299

Did jerpelea add another core?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] fogozito:
i am impressed. but i dont understand, now the X10 is the world fastest phone? with that quadrant score is the number one i think. and why SE nerf their phones? why SE didnt release 2.1 with JIT enabled?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] kalel86:
Cuz it's Sony Ericsson, hahahahaaa
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Devtone:
Running Android naked (without any SE and Google crap) might give such a score. Especialy on CPU.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Tasteslikeawesome:
lol no, those scores are standard out of the box scores. This is what i got on my nexus one 2.2.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] originaljebus:
lol a "thousand"
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Nankov:
And the galaxy s gets 2500 look it up.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] rvictorg:
LOLOLOL we wish!!

The Droid X and the G2 have both broken 3000 thanks to devs. Also scored 55-60 MFLOPS per second in Linpack!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=839687

This is AMAZING progress for our beloved X10s though! Keep up the incredible work you all do devs! I hope everyone is good to their words and donates like they promised when we get a Froyo ROM.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] originaljebus:
well i mean this is already quite ridiculus considering the fact that a stock droid x running 2.2 is incredibally fast!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HackitZ:
speed smeed, i just want flash... L0L
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] saltorio:
ZOMG!!! Awesome!

Jerpelea: you need to add that benchmark image to the OP.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] JohnnyX10:
Lol after this my friends will stop saying my phone is laggy as ****
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mrtim123:
fingers crossed hey! mine is not super laggy but i have stripped a LOT of junk out of this phone.

all my mates with galaxy s phones are always ripping on me. i just smile and ask how thier lag is and how thier gps is :D;)

im still holding out hope that maxrfon and the others will crack the boot loader and then jerpelea and zdzihu can get us some cyanogen action!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] thunderpossuem:
my friends all have 3315's......

looking forward to fixing my phone (again) so that i can flash this beast
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Bwyan Benton:
Omg omg omg!!!! I think its real! Bootloader cracked? *check* :-D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] mbrad_26:
The waiting is killing me slowly.....
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] casianm:
The suspense is the only thing keeping the **** from burstin out my pants...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] neptun2:
I vote for TRUE. As can be seen in the last pages of custom rom development thread as far as i see cracking the bootloader is really close and maybe it is already done. I just hope that X8 will nt be forgotten when custom roms start to appear because its hardware is very similar to the x10 mini one. For me X8 with good custom roms and this good price can be really good proposal on the market.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] DerEineDa:
Well, it's still Eclair. So I guess the bootloader is not cracked, but some files of the original firmware were replaced to have it look like Froyo.

Of course I could be wrong. In fact I hope that I am wrong, although I have a X8. But if the X10 gets cracked, I hope it's similar for the X8.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tuxStyle:
This thread will probably hit 30 pages by tonight.

I can put my money on it lol.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] argnom:
Maybe in 3 hours. I wonder how many PMs he got already.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] jojo1212:
the OP is still in silent mode
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Christrumentalist:
come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn jerpelea!!!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
I just guessed, since no pictures were available at the time.

It just seemed really random to me... :o

Anyway, has the bootloader been cracked?

EDIT: Looks like a custom rom, so I think kexec is being used, or the bootloader has been replaced!

It's also FROYO! (2.2.1)

Picture from zdzihu's earlier post.

Thanks guys, you are amazing!
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] DerEineDa:
I've tought about it again. I guess it's possible that the whole reason we see Eclair and not Froyo could be because the proprietary drivers by SE are not compatible with Froyo, so maybe he had no choice but to use Eclair until custom drivers are available... Lord, I hope I am right with this :D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] UserX10:
That is a early Version of Eclair.... this was as SE was starting do customize Eclair.... !
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] robbyf66:
What's the verdict? I can't F 5 all night
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
Look back a page; see my post.

I think that should help.

Although, I don't know anymore than this.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tuxStyle:
So, basically with kexec will still show the version of the initial kernel and not the running kernel?

It will be nice to be this way :P
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
I'm not sure, but I think that the name of the kernel shown in 'Settings' is unrelated to the running kernel - basically, a fixed name that has to be manually entered.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] tuxStyle:
Well, after soo much time waiting a week or two won't be a problem i guess :)

Either way, having stock android will be better than having SE's version.

I would love to have our kernel so we can compile our own kernel modules.

I'm really interested in netfilter for droidwall :)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] HunteronX:
Also, the radio doesn't seem to be working yet, for either jerpelea's or zdzihu's roms, because there is no signal on the notification bar.

Well, let's just wait and see...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] ooidort:
Zdzihu's original post has disappeared. Maybe they're working on the radio together. :p
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Contrarian:
I have a question. How can you run 2.2 on a 2.1 Kernel?? I know these guys aren't trolls, but I'd have to call it fake.

Sorry.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Tralerprktrash:
Hot damn.......time to play around
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Nimche:
Done Downloading, lets see if this works?

Stock Android here I come...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Nimche:
Is that the regular Nordic ROM?

Edit1: Yes it is. Thanks Jerpelea...

Edit2: Jerpelea, I have high blood pressure. Don't play...

Edit3: Jerpelea, I have spilled coffee. Are you responsible?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] wesvista:
Is that the custom rom?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Hypercore:
It says 3G doesn't work, is this true? It seemed to be working earlier...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] DangerPanda:
It says Flash that rom for warranty. I think he means that flash back to that SE rom if anything bad happens? I'm guessing the actual link to custom rom isn't out yet :O?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] wesvista:
Maybe still uploading?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Hypercore:
Wait, so that's not the custom rom? Wow, I just got so exited... <_<
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Nimche:
possible(not too short)
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] wesvista:
Damm thought it was the real rom
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] xeviro:
I'm currently playing around with X10 system application, decompiling them, and learn what i can do with it on later stage. Currently what i can share is this. Timescape and Mediascape cannot work on other phone because this app checks if the phone model is SonyEriccson or not. If we change this to match the phone model info store in custom ROM, then we can trick the checking.

Second, Timescape and Mediascape also using couple native library, prestored resource, which is the reason you can't just take Timescape APKs and Mediascape APKs out, then install on other phone.

The bottomline is, we just wait until the ROM comes out, then we can see what the devs will do with them. I will trying to work on it as well. I like timescape and mediascape and the rest of Sony Customization which make the phone special.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] creage:
I think it IS a custom rom, as size is 280.7 MB, while size of original SE 2.1 was about 150 - right?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] wesvista:
Ok i'm downloading now then I will try
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Hypercore:
Can't wait any longer, I have school tomorrow morning.

I'll just check when I wake up.

Goodnight guys :)

EDIT: **** it, I already have it downloaded, I'll flash and report back in a few minutes.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] JohnnyX10:
I think its the generic one I mean he does say

THIS ROM IS STILL ON TEST PHASE! IS NOT EVEN ALPHA !

so maybe he isnt even releasing it yet but is just putting up install instructions...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] kalel86:
Downloading the pre-alpha rom... =D, thanks jerpelea
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] wesvista:
maybe it is the custom with the 2.1 generic for if you need to reflash

Damm 16 minutes slow internet (It's just free hotfile speed :) )
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] RaDi:
any one tell uS plz ?

this link http://hotfile.com/dl/79903082/c478ced/2.1_2.0.A.0.504_GENERIC.rar.html

for Custom ROM or SE rom that we run it curntuly on owr phons ?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] wesvista:
downloading now will report when done
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Hypercore:
Just finished flashing.

THIS IS NOT THE CUSTOM ROM.

It's the Nordic 2.1.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] gueatx:
It is the generic sony rom since it is the same link from post 2 here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=683793
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] wesvista:
hope custom wil be released today
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] kalel86:
@guatex the links are different and the size
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] gueatx:
He updated the first post 3 min ago and it says:

DOWNLOAD LINK

UPLOADING....
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] wesvista:
Download link

uploading....

Hope for multiupload/mirrorcreator
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] gueatx:
NO.

check the second link:

X10 SHIPPED 2.1 ROM - (FLASH TOOL INCLUDED) Thanks Bin4ry & TheLaser

X10i_2_0_A_0_504_NORDIC - http://hotfile.com/dl/79720298/90369...0.504.rar.html

X10i_2_0_A_0_504_GLOBAL - http://hotfile.com/dl/79903082/c478c...NERIC.rar.html
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] kalel86:
Yes, he is uploading the file, we are waiting online jerpelea =D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Hypercore:
Hoping for anything but Hotlink, but to be honest I don't really care since I'm getting a clean 2.1 =D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] wesvista:
Only 2.1 wil be released today or also 2.2??
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] kalel86:
@ hypercore thats true hahaha, tonight its going to be a loooong night =D
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] gueatx:
I knew there was a reason I haven't really touched my phone since flashing the 2.1 rogers rom.

Only program I have downloaded since that reflash is angry birds.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] kalel86:
@wesvista We don't know yet, only jerpelea and zdzihu knows the truth. =p