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[Focus General] eondei:
I installed a 32Gb Patriot microsd Class 10 and followed all the procedures mentioned on this thread. On the first day I had no problems but when I woke up on the next day the phone have reseted itself and I lost all the data. Now the memory in "About" says 15Gb. I loaded the card with aprox. 17Gb.
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
Yep that sounds par for the course.

I want to hear from the guy with the Wintec 32 gb card (Schindawg) and see how his card is doin
[Focus General] Kreigz:
When first noticed, did you shut down the phone, waiting a few seconds and then restart it?
[Focus General] eondei:
Yes, I did it and the situation remained in the same way.
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
I am retesting my sandisk 16gb card to see if it is more stable with the NoDo update. I reinserted and reformatted (lost my chevron but the NoDo update sticks) and am filling it to capacity now. I will test for a few days and get back with results.

Then I will have to restore to 7008 with the unlock and then update to nodo again.
[Focus General] eondei:
Which class is your Sandisk 16gb?
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
class 2- sandisk
[Focus General] Omega Ra:
I have a 32 GB class 4 Kingston card in, I have NoDo...currently I only have about 5 gigs of music on it, so I will sync a bunch more and get back to you guys, but as of right now it is working fine..
[Focus General] FishFaceMcGee:
As always, if you're not using more than 8GB of card you will all but never experience an issue.
[Focus General] Omega Ra:
I know, that is why I said I will load more stuff up and get back to you.
[Focus General] Soundtweaker:
So how is it with NoDo? I'm ready to buy a 32gb card if it's stable with NoDo.
[Focus General] TriAxisFL:
I also am really looking for replies from those who have installed NoDo to see if this SD card issue is fixed. I have a 16GB Class 6 just waiting to be used. I faced the same issues as others in the past. So I really really hope NoDo fixes this issue.
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
I for one am optimistic. I inserted my 16gb class 2 sandisk which before was unstable with data loss and restarts (yes even with the 3 fingered salute) after the nodo update, re unlocked my phone (legit paid Microsoft cert. cause chevron doesn't work anymore) and it seems to be doing better.

I have worked this card hard over and over by syncing it to capacity, then deleting stuff, re adding to capacity and then rinse and repeat.

I did get a message that i have never gotten before. A message popped up and said "your card has stopped working-please re-insert or find a compliant card"

Ive never seen that message before and it was strange. I took the battery out, removed the card, re-inserted and checked the phone and everything was good and intact data wise. It is still working fine.

Has anyone ever gotten that message before "reinsert card" before Nodo?

Also, one member is reporting that the 3 finger salute fixed the sd card issues a long time ago. I was under the understanding that the 3 finger salute did not necessarily fix the problem. Any input would be appreciated.
[Focus General] Schindawg:
My Wintec card is doing fine. I've loaded up a bunch more music and videos to where I now have total space used = 24.61 GB and free space = 12.95 GB. So I am well over half used and phone still seems fast with no loss of data.....yet. Will keep messing with it and let everyone know if I experience a failure.
[Focus General] Omega Ra:
I haven't gotten the opportunity to sync more stuff yet, but I will try tonight. I have to move some music from an external hard drive onto the secondary HD of my laptop first.
[Focus General] vedichymn:
I'm hoping the official AT&T Focus NoDo release will include some firmware updates as well, vs just the OS patch. I've seen some people with newer firmware (2103.10.11.2), so there's certainly multiple versions out there.
[Focus General] MKohlman:
NoDo SD Card fix?

I've had a Samsung Focus with a 32GB Sandisk Class 2 installed on it since launch day. Currently the phone has about 16GB of Music, 4GB of Video, and about 1GB of images.

I've had NoDo installed on my Samsung Focus since about 7:00pm last night.

Really too soon to draw any definative answers if the SD Card issue is fixed but so far none of the issues that I was having with the 32GB card have surfaced since the update. if a week goes by with no problems then I would consider it to be a vast improvement at the very least.

I'll post an update as I get more real-world results.
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
My 16 gb sandisk has started the reboots again but with no data loss yet, The reboots happen at certain times when I goto the zune hub, and only then. Interesting

@Schindawg

If that card holds up dawg I will be getting it cause I believe I remember you saying it was cheap, right?
[Focus General] eondei:
Tomorrow I´ll start testing a Sandisk 16Gb Class 4 loading it with more than half its capacity and then I`ll post the results asap.
[Focus General] bennyj71:
Yes any input would be helpful. TOA, what brand of card? If it was unstable before NoDo, maybe it was corrupted. It could be a junk card. I had seven cards that I had to trash with My Tilt and Tilt 2.
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
Well lets see,

One was a transcend 16 class 6 and the other is the sandisk 16 class 2 that I have in now.

Both were benchmark tested before I put them in the phone so they werent corrupt. Both were formatted with the 3 finger method.

On another note, the samsung 32 gb card should be out any day now. Those cards should be the bomb with samsung using 30-nm class 32Gb NAND flash memory technology. News is they were supposed to be through with production at the end of February to the end of March, so any day now.
[Focus General] Schindawg:
Oh nooooo! My beloved 32 GB Class 10 Wintec has failed. I just loaded a bunch of free Kindle books up and was fine at first, then got the dreaded reboot. Came up fine first time, no data loss. Opened Kindle again and it locked up with another reboot, this time all data gone. Now on my phone settings it shows total storage 15.73 MB with available storage 6.10 MB. Rats! So is my only recourse to 3-finger reboot and reformat the micro SD? Was holding out hope I'd found a winner but I guess not. Sorry all.....
[Focus General] JamesAllen:
NoDo?

Have you updated to NoDo? Was wondering whether NoDo has solved these issues.
[Focus General] Schindawg:
Whew. I did a software reset and all my data is back. I had loaded it up for you guys with a bunch of videos just to fill the card and test it (fail!), so I've gotten rid of all the excess in hopes I'll be stable now. I use this phone for biz and can't have it rebooting on me. So, now my phone shows 7.2 GB used and 30.36 GB free. Think I'll camp out around this usage level until software fixes (hopefully) resolve this problem.
[Focus General] Schindawg:
No. I came from an unlocked HTC Touch HD and had fun with all the different ROMs available, but I got my Focus for 1¢ via Amazon Wireless since I was eligible for a phone upgrade on AT&T. I know you can unlock it and install NoDo, but at this point I'm happier just to wait until the official fix comes out. So, I'm sitting at OS version 7.0.7004.0 and Firmware 2103.10.10.1. I really like the phone, it works for now, but like the rest of you, after coming from the open ROM environment, this memory incompatibility thing just smells bad. Guess I still have about 20 days to return the phone if I don't like it, but I can't see spending $200 for an iPhone after getting this one for a penny.
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
I believe I have discovered something from this schindawg.

In my honest opininon I believe NoDo has definietly helped if not fixed the data loss issue. Not saying the cards will not boink out.

Let me tell you why I believe Nodo has helped.

Last night I started up the Music and Videos hub and it froze. My phone rebooted by itself. (I said sh*t) After the phone rebooted a message popped up "Your memory card has stopped (or something like that) Please insert a compliant card."

Well I did not and just hit ok, the phone then started up normally with no data loss.

Maybe there is something in the update that protects data loss. I have never seen that message before.

If someone has seen that message before updating to Nodo, please tell me, because that means my theory is debunked.
[Focus General] eondei:
Be careful cause last time I insisted on making my card work I bricked it. I suggest you to try the sufficient to prove that it doesn´t really works - DO NOT INSIST. I bricked a Patriot 32Gb Class 10!
[Focus General] eondei:
As I promised I installed a sandisk 16gb class 4 doing the following:

1) hard reset with no card inserted

2) insert the card and format it using the 3 finger procedure

3) load it with 17.5Gb (music and videos).

I soft reseted the phone for 3 times and there is no lost data. Now I´ll test during the week to check if it will reset itself.

I´m not using NoDo and I decided not to unlock the device to test as an original OS. The OS version is 7004. I have 4.51Gb of free memory.

Hope to let you all have good results from me!
[Focus General] daniel_leavitt2000:
My Focus with a Kingston 16GB C4 card has had some reboots and some of these resets lost my data and settings, when I turn off the phone, reseat the SD card, everything is back and running fine. So while these ocational reboots are annoying, I have not lost any data in the 5 months I have had this phone with the card installed. So far I have used about 13 of 22GB available.

That being said, I am wondering if anyone else with the Kingston 16GB card has updated to NoDo? If so, how is the card working?

We need more people to try out cards after installing NoDo and report back.
[Focus General] MKohlman:
Just a quick update.

I've been banging on my Focus since NoDo was installed and doing some typical actions that I know would cause problems with the installed 32GB Sandisk SD Card; including the playback of full-length movies while unplugged\not charging and runnignt the battery down below 25% and then playing games or music.

So far my "NoDo-zed" Focus is running great. I've yet to see a single SD-Card related issue that I was having prior to the software update.

Still need to live with it a while longer before declaring it "fixed" but at the moment I'm pretty hopeful...
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
What class?
[Focus General] MKohlman:
Sandisk 32Gb Class 2. Bought it at the same time I got the Focus and was originally "supposed" to be one of the approved cards. Been running it daily since but would have problems with it a few times a week. None that resulted in loss of data, but reboots and freezes while running on battery were pretty common.
[Focus General] Omega Ra:
Well I have synced more stuff to my Class 4 32GB Kingston (wireless is SLOW) I now have about 15GB or so of stuff on my card and not having issues...though sometimes my screen doesn't wake up right away when I click the button...

Edit : I synced more stuff and now have approx. 20GB of stuff on here. Still no issues other than not being able to sync with a wire... I can only sync like a couple songs
[Focus General] TriAxisFL:
Today I decided to reinsert my Centon 16GB Class 6 card. I formatted using the 3 hardware buttons. And upon a reboot my Samsung Focus displayed the following screen. I am currently on NoDo and have never faced this screen in the past. In the past I would get my 24GB of total data and it would work until reboot. Then I would be faced with the 15MB of storage issue.

So it looks like Microsoft added something to NoDo that checks on the quality or state of memory cards.
[Focus General] Strider88:
I'm starting to think we'll never actually see a certified MicroSD card, at least not before 2012...
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
There is a certified card. Well maybe not "officially" certified but the Samsung card works flawlessly. There is a member who received a test card from Samsung to test and it has been perfect. They are sold on eBay by nikoli or something close to that name. Samsung is about to release their 32 GB model any day now. I am holding out for that one.

Cheers
[Focus General] Strider88:
Do all Samsung cards work or is there a certain model?
[Focus General] SuperSport:
I'm a Big fan of the Focus, so please don't take this as bashing Samsung, because I'm not. BUT

I'm beginning to believe there may never be a Certified 32GB card for the Focus, or any other "Certified" Cards for that matter. I think internal testing was not complete enough, and they realize it now, which is why there hasn't be ANY word from them to date about cards that work.

My guess is that the Second Generation of Phone 7 will have SD Card support, or they will drop the idea all together like the iPhone. But for the First Generation, I'm getting the feeling it will be left behind as soon as v2 of Phone 7 arrives. Who knows, maybe they will offer a special upgrade price to Focus owners to help alleviate the frustration many of us are feeling. ;)

I hope I'm wrong, but only time will tell. For the time being, a 16GB upgrade is not too bad, especially compared to other Phone 7's. I really do enjoy using this phone, even with only a 16GB upgrade. :D
[Focus General] Strider88:
What you said makes perfect sense, It's just disheartening to think this is actually the case.

I knew the risks involved in being an early adopter when I bought the Focus, so I wasn't expecting the first generation of devices to be the center of attention to begin with.

This place of honor is reserved, of course, to the future Nokia devices.

I only expected Microsoft to get two things right:

1) Working phones - since the Micro-SD card slot doesn't "officially" work, they failed in that respect.

2) Easy, timely updates (as promised) - we both know what a fiasco that has been so far.

Overall, I'm extremely happy with the device; I just wonder what the future holds for WP7 with such a shaky start.

These issues got major publicity by Engadget and the likes, this can cause customer loyalty issues if not dealt with correctly.

In all other respects, WP7 has been a success thus far: the Marketplace, Zune and XBOX Live are amazing and the UI is superb (IMO).

Anyway, I can't seem to find the seller on eBay. Do you happen to know him? I'd appreciate a link to his store.

I found this: http://www.decrescent.com/Mobile-Ac...-microSDHC-Plus-Memory-Card-with-Adapter-653/

Do you think it will work?

Thanks :-)
[Focus General] SuperSport:
Again, I can live with my 16GB upgrade. It's still more than the other phones. Yes, it is disheartening that it was so misled a little missled, but I'll get over that. Besides, I like getting a new phone every other year. :D

The update issues don't really bother me either. I'd rather they were right, than early. Remember, iPhone had most of these issues when they started out, and many more we are not experiencing. So far, I'd say for a Generation 1 of a completely new platform, not bad. I do hope they make some headway on the SD Card issue, but if not, I'll have a new phone in about a year anyways.

Also, remember the SD Card issue is not necessarily Microsoft's fault. The other Phone 7's are working fine, it's just the Samsung phone that allowed for an upgrade slot that is not working. It's hard to tell at this point whether it's software, or hardware. When that's figured out, it might be easier to place blame if any is to be given.

I sincerely hope Microsoft makes it through this first release. Given what they've delivered so far, I think v2 will be exciting to say the least. Besides, it's nice having many options.

About the SD Card at your link? I personally would not recommend it. There was a write up about the card classes that showed class 2 cards working better than higher class cards. If I were going to start from scratch and buy a card, I would definitely go with the Samsung Class 2 16GB because as far as I know, it has the least issues. I'm sure there are other good ones too, but I've had good luck with mine. Here's what I have.
[Focus General] eondei:
I´m defenitely having no issues with my card (Sandisk microsd 16gb class 4 SDSDQM-016G-B35N).

I´m using it intensively during all day making calls, listening to music, watching videos, deleting stuff and adding new stuff again,....

The performance is excellent and I didn´t notice any lags, auto-resets or data loss since I installed the card

I realized that most of the cards with higher classes (class 6 and 10) don´t work well and 32gb capacity neither. So my suggestion is to go for a Sandisk 16gb and preferably class 4 cause, as long as I know, this is the brand/capacity/class that no one reported issues until now.

I´m not using NoDo and I tested this card with Samsung Focus before unlock and after unlock it.
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
@ strider. Here is the link to the Samsung 16 GB card people are using.

http://m.ebay.com/Pages/ViewItem.aspx?aid=290489010535&emvAD=480x800&sv=samsung 16 gb micro sd card&emvcc=0
[Focus General] cordkc:
Hi Everyone. I have been following the thread since the beginning and felt I should just add my experience. I initially tried the Scandisk 8 Gb Sd Card that was initially claimed to be "compatible", but got the reboot and phone reset issue. I returned it and lived with the 8 Gb limit until 4 weeks ago, when I decided to try the Patriot 16 Gb Card that has been discussed earlier and is found on the Amazon site, showing "compatible with" the Samsung Focus. I filled it to around 18 Gb of stuff (Syncing was normal speed). It worked well, but I did notice the issue with the icons not always instantly loading immediately after coming out of an app... and there was the occasional lag on the end-menu bounce on the home screen. All in all, it was very minor... and I was happy with the extra storage and the performance... and it was stable with no reboots for the 4 weeks.

I got my NoDo Update notification last night and went ahead and downloaded and installed the update... it was flawless, as everything worked perfectly and fast. Much to my surprise, all lag and icon issues are gone now with this card... MS must have adjusted something to do with memory usage, because the performance is now as it was before I installed the card.

This card has been disussed previously, and I know some people have had issues, but I just wanted to pass on that it is working perfectly now after the update. Here is the link to it for reference.

.amazon.com/Genuine-Patriot-Memory-SAMSUNG-SGH-I916/dp/B0049XCJQC

Cheers
[Focus General] Strider88:
Thank you guys for your responses and links :-)

I'm definitely going to give the Samsung card a try...
[Focus General] phoneguy 4567:
It's useless to have a check done after the card is formatted. It would be different if you could take the card out & easily format it, but with all the security it isn't.
[Focus General] MKohlman:
Maybe No "Official" 32GB card support BUT...

I cannot answer as to whether there will be official support or not for 32GB cards but I'm now on day 6 with my "NoDo-zed" Focus and a Sandisk 32Gb Class 2 Card (which is the one ATT originally was selling alongside the Focus at their stores) and I've had no issues whatsoever since the NoDo update.

I'm a long-run kind of guy here (which is why I kept the Sandisk Card in my Focus for the last 5 months) so I really do want to see some more time go by before I'd call things "fixed" but I'm certainly willing to say that I'm rocking with nearly 40GB on my Focus and NoDo and it is vastly improved at this point.
[Focus General] Jfran71:
Just purchased this on Amazon, will update this post and give a review when it arrives and after some usage.
[Focus General] eondei:
Great Jfran, let me know when you are done.
[Focus General] vedichymn:
My Sandisk 16GB ran fine for a month or so before it started dying. Give it some time and see how things look after that.
[Focus General] eondei:
Which class? Do you know the model number?
[Focus General] Christopher71556:
"The LIST".........(rolls eyes)

I'm currently waiting for Samsung to send me my FOURTH phone, the Samsung Focus.

THE PHONE IS EXCELLENT *WHEN IT WORKS* GREAT CONCEPT, "IFFY" PERFORMANCE. AND THEY *STILL* CAN'T TELL YOU WHICH "MEMORY CHIP" IS COMPATIBLE......THEY HAVE A "LIST", BUT I GOT A RIDATA CLASS 6 16 GB AND IT SCREWED UP THE PHONE.

The first ones had software issues. This has been going on since I got my first Fucus in December 2010.

AT&T told me "if you have reset issues when you turn the phone off, THEN DON'T TURN IT OFF! (How ridiculous is THAT??????????)

AT&T brushed me off to Microsoft, which brushed me off to Samsung. NOW I see why folks are enamored with the iPhone: One manufacturer, one OS, 2 carriers.

Microsoft blames AT&T, which in turn blames Samsung which in turn blames Microsoft.

And I'm STILL without a phone. In my book? They ALL get a
[Focus General] ktdan1:
Some people are going to have a bad experience, you are just that lucky one. I on the other hand have had just the oposite experience. My old sandisk 16 gb class two has worked great since day one.

Just want to confirm, you have had the phone since December and you have made one whole post on the entire board and it is to slam the device. seems a bit trollis don't you think?
[Focus General] Cricketslayer:
I've been using the Samsung card purchased from nikolai on Ebay, and it has worked flawlessly. I've loaded with with about 17GB of my Zune music. Yes, it's slow to read because it's a class 2 card, but once you load it up, you should be good to go.
[Focus General] Omega Ra:
Well, I started having random reboots yesterday. I have a Kingston class 4 32GB card and had about 15GB free. So about 20-25 gigs of stuff on it. So I cleared all synced content for now...maybe a firmware update will come like in Canada
[Focus General] MKohlman:
OK, as promised I have an update:

I had my first situation this weekend where the Focus froze while running on Battery and planning back a playlist-generated selection of songs. This resulted in a reboot in order to get the thing back but resulted in no losss of data.

So while things appear to be greatly improved from a stability standpoint with 32GB SD cards, it still is not 100%
[Focus General] reverseswing:
Installed this card

I now have this card installed; running NoDo on Samsung Focus via the Chevron Updater. So far things are good, although I have seen a couple of reboots. The phone powered back up correctly, not like previously where it would seem to lose all settings. I will add more music to take it past 10GB and see what happens.

EDIT: I am using the 16GB Samsung. I used to have a Sandisk 32GB that was really horrible in my case.
[Focus General] TOA Duck:
guys it has been explained before why the faster cards do not always mean better for a windows phone. A fast sustained speed is not as important as the random write speeds.

It seems like this thread is going downhill and not proving very productive because newbies are coming in and posting things without going and reading previous posts. Im glad to see we are getting newbies but please read previous posts before posting things.

Thanks
[Focus General] aussiejim:
Samsung 16GB Class 2 microSD card currently available at IceMonkey for $14.99 shipped. I can't post live links, but you can find it here: www dot icemonkey dot com/16gb-samsung-microsd-memory-card
[Focus General] reverseswing:
now @ 10GB+

I've been running with more than 10GB in storage. I've had one serious reboot, the phone rebooted and showed a screen that said the storage card was not working properly and I was given an option to power off again. I think this notice is new to NoDo. Anyways, after the power off, i turned the phone on again and it was fine. This is similar to what happened in Nov '10 when this phone was new. In that case, the frequency just kept increasing day by day so lets see how this one goes.
[Focus General] PaullikesWINMO:
That was a good deal ! It's now SOLD OUT. :eek: