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[EVO 4G Android Development] NonCorp:
Been using 1.1 bfs avs all weekend with no problems. I have been listening to music via BT all morning and just now realized the temp was up to 106f. Has anyone else noticed high temps with this kernel?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
You will only get high temps if you overclock. Read the notes. Its slightly over volted above 1.03ghz to increase stability. But its fast enough of a kernel I never clock it over 998. It actually runs the phone smooth around 800.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] dave31175:
Running CM6.1 with SBC kernel. Wanting to run Zendroid 1.1.0. 2 questions:

1) Do i need to wipe anything before flashing?

2) Should I remove the Superpower app? Will its CPU management conflict with Zendroid's CPU management?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
Wipe dalvik cache.

No it won conflict. If you turn it on it will take control.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Does setcpu interfere with avs?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
No not at all.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
Does smurfett have a revolving door on her mushroom house?

Playing with AOSP again. Is still pretty nice. Excited seeing 4g and how much this kernel has progressed.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
I was having some screen not waking issues

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[EVO 4G Android Development] egzthunder1:
I cleaned the last few pages of all the drama that was de-railing the thread. Keep it on topic, please. Thank you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dave31175:
Thanks, giving zendroid a try now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] TheMatrixx:
Glad to see this kernel supports underclocking to 128, but what about overclocking past 1190? :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Don't wanna do that.. even1190 wont work on a lot of phones.

I was wondering.. what is 1ghz? Is it 1000mhz or 1224 or something

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[EVO 4G Android Development] NonCorp:
No, I'm not overclocking, Haven't re-installed SetCPU since I flashed CM6.1 some time ago. I was having lag when waking, etc. Noticed when I first tried Zen that I didnt really need to use the screen off profile, which was pretty much why I got SetCPU in the first place.

I flashed 1.1.0 BFS svs and have not seen the temperature issue repeat since then. I think my phone just does not like AVS kernels. I had previously thought it was BFS it didnt like, but BFS svs is running like a champ, no hiccups at all. Not slow to wake, great battery life even when using BT headphones all damn day. Great kernel all-in-all!
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
Or, if you understand the concept of an alpha, then try it out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
How very ignorant. It doesn't work in the first version, therefore it never will, right?

Post constructively.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kthejoker20:
Get over yourselves buttholes.

BTW... why put out this .35 alpha when the .36 works?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] alcangel64:
.36 works..... what bluetooth
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
For some reason the kernel isnt loading any modules anymore :\ not sure why, bit it's the reason wifi doesnt work at the moment.

I think i fixed bluetooth, someone would have to test to confirm though.

Here's a test BFS build with potential BT fix, wifi still doesnt work however :\, need to figure out this module thing - worked fine before, maybe i'm building the anykernel template wrong somehow.

http://ompldr.org/vNjQxdA/zendroid-test-signed.zip
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcallaway77:
I wouldn't mind testing for you but this link isnt working for me
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcallaway77:
I got that link to work, there was a problem with my browser.... i tested that build for you and bluetooth is working... i was able to connect and make a call over bt...
[EVO 4G Android Development] Igotsanevo4g:
This recent BFS release killed my WiFi, but my battery and speed have been stellar.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
Thanks, i just need to figure out this wifi issue and we'll be in good shape, ill try to get it ironed out this morning, The new bfs build is very snappy (snappier than the cfs in my opinion)
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
Sweet! I guess I'll need to try out both. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] dkelle4:
How have I missed this thread the last few days??? Definitely excited to try it out once the Wifi issue is worked out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Dozenboy0012:
It says undecloc to 128 but my lowest is still 245? Still great and thank your for your work really lookin foward to the CFS version
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
Fixed WIFI and BT, it turned out the modules have some sort of issue with the cross compiler i built, so i resorted to the other one I was using - which definitely seems to have some sort of effect on responsiveness (it's not quite as responsive, still pretty quick) - but benchmarks don't vary that much so I'm not sure - BT was another issue someone in this thread said it worked, but i havent tested myself (besides turning it on)

I'll check it out when i get back to the next build ;)

Anyway, both 0.3.1 bfs/cfs versions were uploaded. I have awesome battery life too ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xhazyx:
which build version would you recommend, CFS or BFS?

i hope you figure out the issue with the compiler, so you can build the snappiest kernel without breaking anything

thanks for the dedication
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
I definitely recommend the BFS variant, not sure why everyone is so excited about the CFS one ;)

In older BFS android kernels responsiveness/interactivity was never that great (laggy scrolling, etc.) With my build, perhaps thanks to the newest BFS which is much improved over the previous versions - and perhaps some of the tweaks in 2.6.35-ck and the tunables I changed, including tweaks to the ondemand governor. I find this BFS version much more responsive. Benchmarks are higher, and battery life is better too.

You can always try both ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] tritron777:
I compiled my own kernel. So the kernel seems to be runing ok. It has issues with fm bluetooth. When I go to turn on fm radio after fresh reboot it will turn on bluetooth just fine but if I get to turn off blutooth first and try to use fm radio again it will crash phone and it will reboot at that point. Wireless works fine for me. I can make and recive calls now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
I am on the CFS version right now, getting quadrants scores in the mid-1100s with significantly lower scores in 2D and 3D graphics. Will try the BFS.
[EVO 4G Android Development] halorin:
I'll give the BFS one a shot, but for some reason my phone just likes CFS kernels better. Hopefully your kernel introduces my phone to the splendor of BFS. :P
[EVO 4G Android Development] zikronix:
every bfs kernel i have ever tried on my phone has ate battery like my mom eats twinkies.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
Wow, night and day difference. 1711 and 1715 scores, plus noticeably more snappy on BFS. Way to go boss.
[EVO 4G Android Development] defjef123:
How do I know which one to use? I have cm 6. 1. 2 on a new evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] mwielgosz:
Hello,

I've been using this kernel for a few weeks now and I'm very impressed. I was able to score a non SBC BFS version awhile back. Just for testing, I tried out the CFS version, and to my surprise, it ran much snappier. (Normally the BFS version feels snappier).

I'm really looking to see if anyone happens to have a non SBC version of the CFS 1.1.0 version (latest). Before I get a ton of replies stating that SBC is safe and it's wonderful, etc, etc...it's just my preference not to use SBC. I've done my research and would simply rather not use it. Unfortunately, neither Zendroid or Savage create non SBC versions.

IMO, if we can choose between CFS and BFS (schedulers), why cant we choose between SBC and non SBC?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
You will really just have to try a few. Each phone will have different tolerances, and it's impossible to tell what your phone will tolerate before you try it. If you have problems with one version, try another version, and repeat until you find one that performs to your standards.
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
+1, trying is really the only way to find out. The one that has the most occurrence of problems not working (which is pretty small in itself) is BFS AVS. If your phone does not respond well to that, try BFS SVS. If not that CFS AVS, if not that CFS SVS. If your phone doesn't take CFS SVS ... that would be most surprising. :)

Just make sure to wipe dalvik-cache after you flash.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thunderchicken02:
I would also like to see a link to a non-SBC kernel now that netarchy removed links to his SBC kernels due to possible battery issues..
[EVO 4G Android Development] defjef123:
I know I need to try some I'm just scared to mess things. My phone is running really smooth
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
Well the old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" may apply here, so give it a try and use it for a day. If you don't have a positive experience, nandroid back and stick with what works. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] defjef123:
Your right. Think ill wait till cm7 comes out and try the new snap kernel they make for it
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Lmao that is not what he said.. try bfs avs setcpu smartass 844-245 . You'll like it. And if your phone doesn't, try avs same setup. And then if that's a fail then cfs avs and so on

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[EVO 4G Android Development] stargaterules:
Anyone tried running 1.1.0 BFS-AVS no-sbc kernel? If so, what is the battery life with it, other issues if any? I'm assuming worse due to lack of trickle charging, etc.
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
Ugh. Cfs avs made dolphin mini cause reboot. Now bfs avs will make it so swype does not work. I can type normally on swype keyboard but after i swype a word it doesnt do anything (shows trace). Any ideas?

Swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Switch your input method to the stock keyboard, then switch back. Swype should work. That's happened to me on several roms.
[EVO 4G Android Development] twiz0r:
sweet thanks. Can't believe I didn't try that

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
I will admit, I got about 3 hours more with sbc BUT that's something I'm willing to give up for the phone not blowing up on me

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[EVO 4G Android Development] thunderchicken02:
Me too, but the dev hasn't posted here in a few days, here's to hoping that we get a non-sbc version before our phones explode ;-)
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
So I relied on this kernel to get me through my broken phone phase, and now that I have my phone fixed its even better.

I downloaded 1.1.0 CFS AVS (I decided to step away from BFS just to check it out), and I'm currently calibrating the battery. Attached is a pic of my battery info, as you can see I'm at over 23 hours still with a good chunk remaining. This is just my calibration cycle, I can't wait to see when my battery gets settled.

Promise this is the last gushing thanks, but keep up the great work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sudhirkhanger:
+1

I am using stock CM kernel as i am not big with SBC thing.

I get random reboots with both SVS and AVS kernel. Any Idea?
[EVO 4G Android Development] thedarksavant:
AFAIK, there has not been one report of a phone esploading due to trickle charge.

You're scaring the kids ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
I'm in awe.

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Get a room haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
Haha I know its a little unordinary, its just ... to get it replaced, I had to get it checked by Sprint, and because I thought I was going to get it replaced quickly, I kept it stock for like 3 days. In that time, my phone lasted MAYBE 4 hours, full charge. This kernel (and CM6, most likely) actually gave me my phone back, made it usable until it was replaced. I'm just very grateful. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
There have been batteries ruined and smoke coming out of the phones. What if these people werent there when their phones got super hot and started smoking? Hmmmm.. And bbedward already posted a no sbc kernel a few posts back.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] thedarksavant:
Hmm, sure like to know more about the battery and phone. I'm guessing those batteries did not have one of these: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=906144
[EVO 4G Android Development] thunderchicken02:
http://downloads.zen-kernel.org/zendroid/ZenDroid-1.1.0-BFS-avs-NO_SBC-signed.zip

Here's the link to the non-SBC kernel if anyone else wants to use it. Personally, after doing some research, I don't think the few extra percentage points of battery life on a SBC kernel are worth the risk of fire or phone damage.

http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...sa-warning-notice-do-not-use-sbc-kernels.html
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Dont use sbc no matter how many batteries you have. It can also damage the phone it self

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[EVO 4G Android Development] thunderchicken02:
Why is there not more activity in this thread concerning the controversy over SBC kernels? I feel the developer needs to stay involved in the discussion and at least know he's still around to provide support. This reminds me of the gaps in communication in the past. It's a shame, because the kernel itself is awesome.
[EVO 4G Android Development] matt2053:
There are other threads for that. Like the SBC thread.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
Bbedward seems to be around for a few weeks then gone for a few. It is just him and no team. So give him a break if he is gone a few days.
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
aren't the sbc kernels supposed to be taken down from xda? it sucks, but at least savaged-zen will have their own website for the sbc kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] Brian Rubin:
Pardon my ignorance, but is Zendroid included in this controversy?
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
Excuse me, I'm actively working on savaged-zen so no need to complain about inactivity
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Savagedzen? You're working in a team now? That's pretty cool I guess

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[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
savage kernel collaboration. they listened to their audience:D so does that mean no more zendroid and savage solo work?
[EVO 4G Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
If you look at the Savage thread, there are some more details. The new website where all their work will be at is located here.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Yes, both teams are essentially no more, we're Savaged-Zen now. Brandon and Luis have been working HEAVY on the last bug while Lithid and I get the site/forum/gerrit up.

Once the bug gets fixed we'll make a new thread and these threads will be dead. In a week or two depending on how the stable version goes, we will put out our first custom kernel out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] paranoid android85:
thats great to hear! i love your work. i know savagedzen isn't ready just yet, but will you continue the conservative tweak? ive grown to really appreciate it. i get great battery life without losing performance
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Yes the best of both will be added. I have some additional tricks to add just gotta fix the bug
[EVO 4G Android Development] thunderchicken02:
Good to see updates, can't wait for the new kernel. Out of curiosity, will SBC be included in the new kernel or no?
[EVO 4G Android Development] thunderchicken02:
Nobody knew about this until just now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bwcorvus:
They said it a few days ago.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thunderchicken02:
Edit: nobody following this thread would have known about this unless they read other kernel threads...just sayin.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
We originally were going to surprise all of you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
That would have been quite a surprise! Haha savage sorry about anything I said earlier. I guess I understand now and how you both together would be a big competition against snap. But I do think you need someone like shift to be a cool kid and to put out graphics ;) anyway I can't wait for you guys' next kernel I will be doing a lot of reporting back and a lot of advertisement haha

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[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
uhuh... i guess we can forgive lol. I really dont think its a competition. Snap's kernel is the same kind as both of ours, actually both of ours got better scores than snap 7.6 w/o turbo. The ONLY thing that SNAP has that we dont is the turbo... which in

my opinion

is a fancy way of doing data2ext. It also sticks you to snap until you do a data wipe until v2 apparently. We do have a graphics/website/rom/application guy on our team now, you all know him well. He's working on the site. We got the forum online last night but its not customized yet, We MAY have it all up by this weekend. if not i assume by the end of the month.

We're always looking for people who know C, graphics, or android application development to join the team... only qualification other then that is that you cant be a douche or a tool. Respect and morals are required.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Haha I do crappy ass graphics I guess. The kernels gonna be like the best of both kernels I'm assuming? And I hope no sbc. Oh and does data2ex actually give higher performance?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
LOL what a way to get on the team lol. if you did good graphics we could talk haha. Yes best of both. We are having SBC and NON SBC versions, HAVS and SVS, BFS and CFS

kinda more on quadrant scores. can mess up some stuff tho.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
I don't think SBC should be done.. its a good idea but its blowing up phones.. only people who haven't heard of that will use it and then their phones will blow up haha. And I can make single items pretty decent. But I'm very slow. Cannot do a website in a week haha

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[EVO 4G Android Development] aimbdd:
I don't think writing things like that will get you on the team either ;) it hasn't caused any phones to blow up.

Sent from my salvage gb evo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
LOL but SBC is doing serious damage to phones. Those phones, the ones that were smoking or overheated, could have set on fire if left alone for longer. I hope that no one would want that to happen.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] matt2053:
Who the hell are you to say what people should and shouldnt develop or use on their phones. I've read everything there is to read about SBC and the alleged dangers if it and I plan on continuing to use it, and so do many, many other users and developers. If you don't like it then don't use it. End if story.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thedarksavant:
That's exactly right. The Chicken Littles can run away based on correlation and speculation, but there is not yet any hard evidence that trickle charge caused the reported problems. Which is the reason toast decided to NOT ban SBC kernels.
[EVO 4G Android Development] BlueHarford:
Hey guys

Calm down about SBC please. Its peoples right to love and hate it... just let people have their own.

BTW follow our progress on twitter @SZGIT
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Sorry about that.. but I'm just looking out for people who don't know what SBC is and what it can do. I truly think that its no coincidence that 8 people in 2 weeks, using SBC, ruined there batteries and phones. I font really understand how you guys can be so ignorant.. anyone that mistakenly keeps their phone on the charger for a longer time will ussually have problems.. HTC isn't stupid because they implemented that.. and I've read around a lot so I do have some things to back up my argument. And people who want to use it can and I worded my post wrongly. there should be a warning with every SBC kernel.

Anyway I'm sorry I don't wanna change the focus of this thread; it was merely just a sugestion.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] matt2053:
There's really no need for name calling. You are not coming across as a very likable person. At all.
[EVO 4G Android Development] thunderchicken02:
I personally do not want to use a SBC kernel because of the risk (whether the risk is perceived or real is debatable), but I believe people should be given the choice to decide for themselves. With that said, a disclaimer should be posted to absolve the developers of any responsibility if people damage their phones.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
I don't wanna come off as a bad person.. I just feel very strong about this issue. So I'm not going to argue anymore and let the devs do what they want to.. and PS. I take back when I said there shouldn't be an SBC kernel.. now I'm suggesting that there should be a warning for people who don't know about this rush they're taking.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] matt2053:
Well if you don't want to come off that way, you should not do things like call people who disagree with you "ignorant." You may have not meant any offense, but people tend to not like being talked to that way.

That said I don't think anyone has a problem with a disclaimer or a warning. That's something I think we can all agree to.

Also I can't wait for Savage Zen. That's something I think we can all agree on! :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] HondaCop:
So now it's your turn to request warning labels?

PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bbedward:
This is a reasonable solution ;)

I do have a Kconfig option for SBC in my source, so it is easy to disable/enable for anyone building the kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] Crossrocker:
Yeah.. did not mean to do that. I just feel very strongly about this

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