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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wearefree:
I have been an old user for WMo but newbie to Android except playing on my wife's vibrant a little bit. I'd like to try Android out on HD2 as WMo is officially dead. Here is some questions (which I searched and couldn't find definitive answers).

1. The Android builds listed in the Leo section, do they ALL work for tmobile HD2 or there actually is a difference between a Tmous HD2 build and a Leo build (like the difference between WM roms for each device)? I vaguely remember reading somewhere that these builds are the same but I really appreciate if someone could confirm that for me.

2. Can you guys recommend an Android build that (1) works with Tmo 3.14 stock rom (2) has sense UI (3) has no battery life issue (4) has the least number of bugs. I don't want to ask an open ended questions like what is the best android build. I actually do have these specific requirements in mind.

The reason I come with so many requirements is I have been using WMo since Tmo wing (2007) and TP2 (2009) and have gotten so used to it that I don't want to give it up. The new 3.14 stock rom only froze on me once when opera mobile cached too many files so it's half way my fault. Even though so many people hate WMo, to me it's just great as it simply works for me as I learned how to work around all the problems.

The requirement for sense is HTC simply perfected the user experience on WMo with the sense addition (also thanks to the capacitive screen that HD2 has). I would like to start with something that I'm familiar with.

Also seems a lot of discussion has been going on that the battery drain is no longer an issue with the current android builds. Is that true for all of them? Or some specific ones that has implemented some sort of fix?

I like to use Android as my daily OS so of course the requirement for least number of bugs.

3. OTA updates. Looks like native Android phone can update themselves when updates are released in the air. Would the HD2 android build be able to do the same? Or do I have to re-install a new build whenever updates come available (like flash a WMo rom)? I know when flashing a WMo rom I have to reinstall all software but when I install a new android build, can I somehow keep all the software I have without reinstall everything?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gaarry:
1. They are exactly the same. It is not discriminant between internation and US versions of the HD2. (unless otherwise posted)

2. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=747492

3. You shouldn't do the OTA updates, it'll probably have some unforeseen complications. Just find an updated build.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dennis-:
as far as i know your going to have to switch to a custom rom. the stock 3.14 has robot voice which means it needs the correct audio drivers to work with android. search around there is plenty of barebones roms around(rom that is pretty much the exact same thing as 3.14 only with the correct drivers).

i have tried dozens of android build and have found this one Mdeejay_eVo_Sense_v._2.3Revolution to be the best. it has the best battery life i have found. with stock winmo with avarage use i was running 30% give or take battery life at the end of the day. with this android build im sitting at usually over 50% with the same if not more use.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] z33dev33l:
You only need a custom radio to run android properly, stock rom works fine. However there are roms optimized for android that you should look into. Most of them give the same sense experience with much moore fun features and an optimized android experience.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wearefree:
Thanks to all of you for your input. I will have to stick to stock WMo rom as this is my primary OS (at least for now).

I will start with Mdeejay_eVo_Sense_v._2.3Revolution to get a feeling how android works on a daily basis (playing for a few seconds every time doesn't really count), then decide whether I can use android as primary OS.

All my contacts, emails and calendars are synced with Google (so if Google decides to spy on me they know exactly what to do, haha) so the migration should be relatively smooth when I decide to switch.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wearefree:
New question: the android build worked fine for the first time but I can never go back in there. Now it just hands on the HTC screen indefinitely...

Any advice?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] wearefree:
Finally figured out what went wrong. I re-formatted the stock SD card, copied the android folder in there first before I copied everything else back, and use the android loader. Now it's all good, except loading android can be a very long process... due to the stock slow sd card. But at least it works every time now.
[Fascinate Android Development] Flipsoul:
I've been thinking of posting this...

Then someone asked.

There is also the Vibrant TouchWiz Launcher

CWM Update Zips

MesmerizeTouchWiz.zip

Changes from Fascinate TouchWiz

-Google Search Widget Enabled

-No edit gears in the Upper Left of the Homescreen/App Drawer (Can still edit home screens/App Drawer by hitting the menu softkey and click menu)

No Alphabetical Grid like in the Vibrant TouchWiz

Install:

-Install Via CWM. (Includes script to delete browser.odex)

or

-Place apk into /system/app/, if the TouchWiz30Launcher.odex is still there, delete it, and reboot.

You may want to temporarily set another launcher to default prior to installing.
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
Heh... now this was damned near the only thing I actually *liked* about TW...and it's only on the fascinate?

Loved being able to throw the screens around and play with the order. None of the other launchers have anywhere near that slick of an interface for that.

Come ADW...get cracking. (Yeah, I know there's a new ADW.BETA on the IRC (Freenode/#samsung-fascinate)
[Fascinate Android Development] Flipsoul:
You can still do do this, you just have to hit the menu button and click edit.

The gear was just another shortcut for it. (Which I also really do like)

On that note:

Thats one of the things I didn't like about the Vibrant TouchWiz - you couldn't even set which one was your home.

And if anyone really wants alphabetical sort with the Mesmerize TouchWiz, you can clear cache on it. Lol. It'll reset your home screens too though.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] brent_si:
Just wondering if there is a new version for windows 7. Can't get the old one to work.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] cajunflavoredbob:
The latest version is 1.0.0314.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] brent_si:
I downloaded that one and I still can't get it to work on windows 7. Anyone got any suggestions? Or possibly another free encoder.

Also is there any hd players and a different converter for it?
[Touch2 General] fugns:
hey

when i use live messenger using data, i keep getting dc problems

it keeps having this message that says

'the wireless network is not available right now. Messenger is trying to re-establish a connection'

but im using data, not using wifi at all. anyone noe why is this so?

thanks alot!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] svetius:
Well done! Any screenshots of what this looks like once complete?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
Cool :cool:

Nice guide

Thanks for sharing
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lennyuk:
Looks to me all you have done is disable sense related apps/widgets?

But what of rosie launcher itself?

Could you not set say launcher pro as stock and then disable rosie.apk too (unless this does not exist in "new sense")?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sphaerophoria:
No i have disabled rosie as well. I disabled every package put on by htc other than the essential ones to keep system functionality
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Lennyuk:
ah ok, I have to say I did only glance at the list. Good job
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ddgarcia05:
I want sense and you want froyo. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gtrab:
humankind is beautiful because its diverse

:)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jdsmall:
Now that there is permanent root can unwanted system apps be removed?

Hi,

Now that there is a permanent root solution. Can the unwanted apps be deleted someway?

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sphaerophoria:
Now that there is permanent root you can just download clockwork and install the real stock rom :). Speaking of which could a mod remove this from the stickies please?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheRomMistress:
For you, since you asked nicely, yes I will :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] t5k:
Hmm, where could i get a Sense-free rom?

I mean there is this, but is the rom available for download sense-less, since it's from HTC?

Sry for posting such a noob question, but oh well, better ask than flash the whole thing in vain :P
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] AllWin:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...n-g2-z-modaco-custom-rom-with-online-kitchen/
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] moolash:
sense vs froyo

I am about to switch to a DZ. I am for Sense, but reading this thread I have doubts: will Sense really be so much different from stock Froyo, eating up more resources, is that it?

I'm on a Touch Pro2 right now, I have stock 6.1 (!) because eyecandy never convinced me over performance. So I stayed with and love 6.1 and STOCK!

But I love Sense.

Will I think different about this? :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hysteria108:
i know people are porting it to the HD2 but why couldnt we see this on the incredible? i know there are minimum hardware requirements for WP7 to properly function but the incredible has better and more update hardware than the HD2.
[General Questions and Answers] Kellicros:
I have been using icontact and htc dialer together for quite sometime and I am wondering if there is a way to change the default call log to the one in iContact.

I have icontact as my default contact app, but when I access the misscalls from WM Lockscreen, it loads the manila Call Log instead, which a part of HTC dialer I believe.

Any help would be great.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mainstang:
Should I unrevoke forever after rooting my evo what are the pros and cons in everyones opinion?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
Unrevoked forever lets you have your NAND unlocked with any bootloader (S=OFF), if you only plan on using the engineering bootloader you don't really need it though since it is unlocked by default.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DraginMagik:
not required. especially if you plan to use one of the more common ROMs (ie: CyanogenMOD, Fresh, BakedSnack, Myn, etc)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mainstang:
Alrighty thank you both for your replies I think Im just about ready to root.
[Touch2 General] fugns:
hey

may i know is it possible to install ebuddy on touch2?

i tried going to the ebuddy website but the model touch2 isnt listed there

tried downloading by listing other models but was unable to install on my touch 2

thanks alot!
[Touch2 General] leoccl86:
hi, sorry but it may sound like a stupid question but why do you wanna install eBuddy when u can have the original Messenger Live for WM?
[Touch2 General] Amir Fauzi:
maybe he want to use other messenger build in one application...try palringo...it compatible...:)
[Touch2 General] leoccl86:
my bad! i think i know what you mean. sorry!
[HD7 General] Ken B:
Hi, I have one more question that would help me decide on the HD7. I have about 1300 contacts in Outlook and multiple #'s for each contact. With some of the contacts, I have added a name behind one or more of the numbers in Outlook (say like on the Mobile # I have 222-222-2222 Tom). Well, currently in Android when I say call the mobile number of the main contact (and wanting to dial Tom), Android substitutes the numerical value for Tom (866) after the phone number, which in turns makes it an incorrect number. When I had Windows Mobile 6.5 Voice command dialing on my other WM phones, it would ignore the names behind the number and correctly dial it. Does anyone know if WM7 does the same thing? I hate to have to go back into Outlook and delete all those names behind the numbers, and if the HD7 handles it like WM6.5 did, it would help me decide to go with it. Thanks.
[HD7 General] poopilot:
Seems to work for me -- I just added some letters to the end of an outlook contact, and called it, and it worked fine.

I should add that voice dialing has been flawless for me -- "Call david smith home two" calls the number under "Home 2" for David smith, and if there's only one David, you don't even need the smith!
[HD7 General] Ken B:
Thanks

That's good news. Thanks for doing that.
[HD7 General] HkDng:
And more, Windows Mobile never have that issue :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thecapoots:
Ok, so this is my first time trying to restore with ODIN. I have it hooked up, the phone is in Download mode. The ID:COM box is yellow, and has 0:[COM5] in it. The large box at the top is empty, as is the status bar. I put the s1_ODIN_20100512.pit into the pit file box, and the T959UVJFD.tar file into the pda file box. I hit start, and the status bar says:

<ID:0/005> Added!!

<ID:0/005> Odin v.3 engine (ID:5)..

<ID:0/005> File analysis..

and it's stuck there. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pandoruh:
same! except mine says 0:[COM6] and i cant find the correct flie for my pda. HELP PLEASE! :confused::(
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thecapoots:
well, the PDA file I'm using is from here (actually, both the PIT and the PDA file are coming from here):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9080652#post9080652

Hopefully that's helpful...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thecapoots:
Pandoruh:

I found this video after some searching. Do what it says, EXACTLY in the order it says to do it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=810130

Start ODIN

Remove battery

Plug phone into computer

Replace battery

Boot into D/L mode

--ODIN picks up phone--

Put PIT into PIT box

Put Rom into PDA box

Hit start.

Took about two minutes to reflash, once I got it going. Hope this helps you.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bricked vibrant:
I tried this the other day for the first time after the OTA update bricked my phone and had the same issue. just pull the battery and try it again, worked for me the second try. hope this helps
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pandoruh:
thecapoots:

:D:D:D

OMG dude

thank you thank you thank you! *hug*

that **** worked, beautifully!

God bless you.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thecapoots:
My pleasure, bud. Now I have Obsidian back up and running :)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] volumnus:
Skyfire has stopped working on Winmo, at least for me anyway. I am a huge basketball fan, and this is the time of year it came in handy. I would bookmark channelsurfing.net, and I could get my hoops fix very easily.
[Vibrant General] dcam1075:
Did anyone else get an update today? I am already on ji6 but I got a random firmware update this evening. Anyone know what it was? Nothing different is jumping out to me.
[Vibrant General] presence06:
What are your phone stats? Firmware/baseband etc..
[Vibrant General] dcam1075:
That all looks the same.

Firmware version

2.1-update 1

Baseband

T959UVJ16

Kernel Version

2.6.29

Build Number

Eclair.UVJ16
[Vibrant General] willsnews:
I read earlier it was for media hub might be wrong but who knows

Times never wasted when your getting waisted
[Vibrant General] DMaverick50:
There's already a thread about this. It reverts you back from the the ji6 update. T-Mobile told me they don't know why I got it. Its very stupid
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
NOT SUCH A HOT DEAL. When you consider all the complaints on the kickstand breaking and the flimsy soft plastic that often tears at the port covers. BUYER BEWARE!!!

The following quote is from the Facebook Otterbox page. This comment was made on 11-17-2010 at 10:30 AM

YMMV - Available on Otterbox website, Amazon has not changed their page, but the price has changed to $33.94 This item is full price on Otterbox at $49.95 with a $5 coupon code for those of you that had signed up for notification on availability.

YMMV - Pre-Order the Otterbox Defender for $26.99 shipped.

It has been "Coming Soon" for months now, so Pre-Order at your own risk.

Free shipping with FSSS or Prime.

This price is current as of 10:30 PM EST 11/7/2010. Amazon prices change rapidly.

http://www.amazon.com/Otterbox-Defender-Shield-HTC-Black/dp/B0043GWDZ2/ref=cm_cr_pr_sims_t

NOTE: IT LISTS SHIPPING TIME AS 1-2 MONTHS!!! But it may take longer or shorter. Rumors say it will ship this month.

NOTE: Under Product Description it lists the name as Impact: "Product Description

The OtterBox Impact Series is a durable silicone skin...]"

...however, on the invoice it only lists DEFENDER and makes no mention on Impact Series. Due to this discrepancy, I am adding YMMV to this deal. However, this does not really concern me as the title says Defender and the Impact has no current wait, therefore, there is more than enough reason to believe it is the Defender. I have never had issues with Amazon with similar description issues in the past.

From the Otterbox Facebook page, Otterbox reminds us that all coupon codes are case sensitive.

Jay E Hey guys, I just got my Evo defender for 40$ with free shipping! Use these 2 codes tb1010y (10% off/free shipping) & MEMUEVO5 (5$ off) (coupon is case sensitive) . They both stack. Enjoy 15$ off!

If you order through Otterbox, you may have to call in, their servers have been crashing.
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
If you need a case soon or now you may be better off going with the Trident Cyclops or Seidio Rugged. However, I do not suggest the Seidio Rugged as I have 2 and they're both falling apart. The upgraded/seperate screen protector is necessary on the Cyclops. The Ballistic cases may be released this month as well.
[EVO 4G Accessories] robnelle:
Defender on sale at Amazon confirmed as of 11/7/10 11 pm

Confirming OP. Defender on sale through Amazon direct. Must be coming out soon!

http://www.amazon.com/Otterbox-Defender-Shield-HTC-Black/dp/B0043GWDZ2/ref=cm_cr_pr_sims_t

Edit: then again..maybe not..says ships in 1 to 2 months. Does anyone know if Amazon charges when you order or when your item ships? I know for unreleased video games, your card is charged when the item ships but I don't know about non game items.
[EVO 4G Accessories] bacdoliljo:
I see $49.95

nevermind. Previous link was to a different seller at $49.95. Amazon is selling for $29.95

Note that it says Usually Ships in 1 or 2 MONTHS
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
Thanks for posting the link! I can't believe I forgot that.

For everyone who doesn't frequent Amazon...on the right side there is an area that says "More Buying Choices", this box may have Amazon.com as a seller or it may be the default seller, I'm not sure how they program their code to decide which you see as default.

1-2 months is possible. Rumors say this month, but rumors have been saying that for months!!!

I'm in for 2 because my Seidio Rugged's are falling apart, but they'll hold up until the Otterbox Defender is released.......................................................................unless the Trident Kraken beats them to the market :)
[EVO 4G Accessories] robnelle:
That's weird. From my point of view, the link I gave does go to the 26.99 version. I'll just chalk it up to some crazy property about Amazon's site. As long as you found it. :) Actually..I believe Amazon moved it to a different page just that quick.

Here's a screenie of what I initially saw before Amazon changed it:
[EVO 4G Accessories] _MetalHead_:
Just ordered mine, $26.99. Thanks for the heads up OP :)
[EVO 4G Accessories] Saltwater Hero:
Just ordered one also! Crossing my fingers that it comes out in a reasonable time. On facebook otterbox did say that it is in the manufacturing process a few days ago.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SilverStone641:
Ordered mine as well OP. $26.99 with free super saver shipping. awesome! great find.
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
From a discussion page on Facebook:

Random Person: NOV 17 DEFENDER CASE FOR EVO SHIPS!!!!!!!!

OtterBox: Fingers crossed, cause it isn't too much longer now. The date didn't come from us, but we are working hard to get them out asap!​
[EVO 4G Accessories] mmcrrc:
Awesome!!

I already have a Commuter case, good for interim was waiting on this one!!

Just scored it for 28.61 with tax, shipped!

Even if it takes a few weeks more than Otterbox I can deal with wait for the price.

Thanks OP!
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
No problem, I am using the crappy Seidio Rugged, can't wait for the Defender, hopefully the build quality is good. Sorry you live somewhere you have to pay Amazon tax, I buy way too much from Amazon...
[EVO 4G Accessories] _MetalHead_:
You and me both. Both Amazon and EBay make it way too easy to buy something. Just click this button and it's mine? Don't mind if I do...
[EVO 4G Accessories] Mayonesa:
im just waiting to see how the holster works with this case... i know people with the iphone version and they didnt speak very well about the holster.
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
I wasn't happy with my Seidio Rugged holster, but I don't use the holster much anyhow...but I would like a good one, it would be nice to carry at work.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Mayonesa:
the only thing i didnt like about the rugged was the opening for the usb port. i did cut it and it works well.. of course it doesnt look like it came that way since i did cut it and its not smooth but it works well..

i have the rugged away but im using the active now... out of all thats out there now with a holster, i think sedio is the best ( IMO)

like i said, i would like to see the otter box before i get it. i just wish it had a clip on the top like the sedio holster has. just feels more secure
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
I accidentally ripped off that usb port, my wife also accidentally ripped the headset jack area off. That plastic on the Seidio Rugged is just way too thin.

I snapped the top of my holster off, the design didn't work for me...but take that with a grain of salt, cause if it's breakable, I'll break it.
[EVO 4G Accessories] OneStepAhead:
I still haven t been charged yet and I think it's been 48 hours, so I'm guessing they don't charge until it ships. I went ahead and got the 30 day Prime trial so I'm getting mine overnighted for $30 shipped, not too bad!
[EVO 4G Accessories] lembowski:
Ordered off Amazon. For the price you can't beat it. Hopefully it comes sooner than later.
[EVO 4G Accessories] LoungeLizard:
$33.94 now. Listed as in stock on Otterbox.com.

sent from my Warmed Up HTC Evo
[EVO 4G Accessories] SilverStone641:
Yep, i got my email from otterbox this morning saying the case was available. i wonder how long till amazon has it available?
[EVO 4G Accessories] redrazr7791:
Ordered mine this morning. Hopefully Amazon's are the legit things from O.B. and not factory rejects. Makes you wonder why the price is so low compared to otterbox =\
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
YMMV - Available on Otterbox website, Amazon has not changed their page, but the price has changed to $33.94 This item is full price on Otterbox at $49.95 with a $5 coupon code for those of you that had signed up for notification on availability.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Saltwater Hero:
I canceled my amazon order today and just ordered it from otterbox with the 2 coupon codes I had my case was 40$ I don't mind paying a lil more to be one of the first to get it. I also just have a bad feeling about how long its gonna take for amazon to get these bad boys in.