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[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
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[myTouch 4G General] skyungjae:
HI guys, just wondering if anyone knows with that firmware update does. I've searched and it seems like not a whole lot of people know but are updating anyway. I'm sort of reluctant on installing it because I plan to root and use a custom ROM when the dev teams catch up.

After using MIUI on the N1, I'm not too impressed with the performance with this phone, but I know the potential is much higher with the gen 2 snapdragon, more ram, and internal storage. I can't wait to see what people cook up for this phone.

Anyhow, if anyone finds out that this update will be a headache later for rooting and custom ROM purposes please chime in.

Thanks!
[myTouch 4G General] Noyabronok:
I remember on the G1 we had to flash with an older factory rom to root. Wouldn't the same thing be possible with the MT4G even if the update doesn't allow root?
[myTouch 4G General] skyungjae:
I remember doing that with my G1 too, and I'd rather avoid that extra step.
[myTouch 4G General] allen099:
This update was mainly to improve Qik reliability and choppyness. This from the head of HTC Northeast, who randomly walked into the Tmo store while I was there.

Sent from MyTouch 4g via XDA App
[myTouch 4G General] HamNCheese:
No - newer HTC devices check both the signature and version. So, no downgrades will be possible unless an exploit is found that allows us to bypass these checks.
[myTouch 4G General] ESKIMOn00b:
Also there were kernel changes AFAIK. This is pretty evident in the performance of the device... the update contains the full production firmware, they launched with development release onboard

Also the update brought tmo the ability to control tethering...
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
I had the same thoughts. I remember thinking that it would probably be easier to root later on without that update, but the popup wouldn't go away. Oh well...

Yeah I heard they're going to charge for tethering now. F that!
[myTouch 4G General] ESKIMOn00b:
15 dollars... only if you use native tethering on stock Rom... they shouldn't be able to stop or charge 3rd party tethers or fully rooted phones
[myTouch 4G General] Phateless:
So PDANet should still work?
[myTouch 4G General] ESKIMOn00b:
AFAIK

Works ok on evo
[myTouch 4G General] Noyabronok:
Like the exploit here :D:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=832642
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
How will they be able to control tethering on the native tethering phones, and will the temp rooted devices still be able to tether if they have the Recent ROM update?
[Off-topic] rsarno:
Very strange, and it was my first dream in a long time, let alone ever dreaming of a phone or software lol

so in my dream i had an in-person discussion with NilsP about his ROM about how i think he should add the 5 latest apps to the transparent dropdown. No biggie, 10min convo

Now im warped a few days later and im at like a BBQ party, and i meet someone and start showing him my phone and a few ROMs i had on backup

I pull down the transparent dropdown and see some chrome looking skulls, with red glowy eyes ... 5 of them across the top of the dropdown where the apps would be!!

So i say wtf is this? Maybe i never really broke in NilsP's ROM and its just now initializing or something??

Now the phone reboots itself and its some chromed skull theme, and the 5 recent apps are in the dropdown!!

In my dream i was kicking myself trying to figure out how the hell this ROM all of a sudden had it! Or did NilsP find a way to hack into my phone and add the feature i begged him for??

Last thing i remember is being puzzled and stumped, then i woke up

stupid as hell, but thats it lol

go ahead, flame away haha
[Off-topic] mb02:
I'm curious, what possessed you to believe this was in any way related to android development and not general discussion??
[Off-topic] NilsP:
I swear I was not in your dream and I did not touch your phone.:D
[Off-topic] jermaine151:
LMAO @ NilsP!!!!
[Off-topic] rsarno:
the dream was about DEVELOPERS and what they DEVELOP? Not exactly mainstream stuff, someone not rooted would have no idea what i was talking about
[Off-topic] mb02:
That's not how it works...
[Off-topic] masully1984:
+1, agreed
[Off-topic] ACD168:
gunna have to say +2 to this
[Off-topic] Jdawg183:
Dude, you do know that Prop 19 did NOT pass, right?
[Off-topic] Stoney 666:
That's because everyone was to busy puffing instead of passing!
[Off-topic] GMK83:
How hard is it to post in the right forums? Stupidity runs rampant on xda.
[Off-topic] jermaine151:
I disagree. This forum has been better and this guy knew not to post this here. Crack kills!

EDIT: You really pissed me off saying stupidity runs rampant on XDA. Take it back!
[Off-topic] jimmypopulous:
I think the moderation could use some work here. ROM threads inevitably devolve to the point of being useless.
[Off-topic] jermaine151:
Overground and the other mods do a good job here, for FREE! You volunteering to get criticized because of a few idiots?

EDIT: Let me search your posts to see what you've developed or improved, since you're posting in the development forum and criticizing.

EDIT2: I searched and found 7 threads. NONE of your posts volunteered crap to the community.
[Off-topic] GMK83:
It's the truth. Just take a look at the number of off topic posts in this forum alone each day. There are the best devs on xda, but along with that comes some of the dumbest posts I've seen on any forum.
[Off-topic] jermaine151:
I usually ignore the dumb posts and the front page of this forum continually stays on topic about new gifts to the community. You take back that comment or we're done talking. You lumped a lot of people into that.

EDIT: LOL! I searched yours too. Found the nicest one was requesting a link to a kernel for MIUI. You really want to POST HERE? Seriously? You guys are really making me mad!
[Off-topic] GMK83:
Grow a thicker skin. If your not one of the people posting these useless threads then it's not targeted towards you. You're looking in the wrong place if you want an apology.
[Off-topic] jermaine151:
you didn't lash out at the op! You said stupidity runs rampant here! This is my home. Get it? An apology is needed.
[Off-topic] GMK83:
Reading a bit too much into things... Don't worry, I won't be mad of you don't want to kiss and make up.
[Off-topic] jermaine151:
Smooches babe! I've done a little bit to make things work better here. I'm sorry that I get pissed at ppl with negative comments that haven't. Want to hug it out? :)
[Off-topic] jermaine151:
Edit that comment and we're good. The best Inc Android developments come from here. How can you sleep and say that stupidity runs rampant here????? You could have said: The OP is one of the few @ssholes that's stupid here. Or something similar.
[Off-topic] Stoney 666:
It might be true that a lot of un-necessary threads and posts are put up, but they would die out a lot quicker if people would let them die out on their own instead of posting flames about how un-necessary they are. And jermaine is right, its usually people that haven't done **** to help that flame. This thread would have died after the first couple of comments cuz there's nothing really to comment about. Having said that.... we could all agree on this.... F#@K IPHONE! HAHAHA...
[Off-topic] jermaine151:
Stoney, you already know... You're the MAN! :) I hate getting angry at this crap but they bump the thread and then lump us all in. I HATE THAT!
[Off-topic] rsarno:
Sorry to bump this, as i agree it really needs to just die at this point.

But seriously guys? I dont post here a whole lot to know how strict things were ... and i explained my thinking as to why i put it here, i didnt just do it without thinking. Maybe it was incorrect, or as someone said "it doesnt work that way .." but at least i thought it out. Obviously i thought wrong, and im sorry.

But common, im being called an asshole? stupid? ruining the forum??

jesus ... i guess ill just go back to lurking, sorry about the hassle of making you all read my "stupidity"
[myTouch 4G General] kevo817:
K... I'm new to android (from iPhone) and I just bought the mt4g... I downloaded the advanced task killer, but every time I "kill" the apps, there are 10 more running less than 5 seconds later... I've set my autokill to crazy, have an ignore list, etc... any thing else I can do to limit what crap runs without me opening the app myself?
[myTouch 4G General] toby4059:
I believe you are not supposed to use task killers on Android because the system manages apps and when you stop them it messes up something. Here is a link: http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
[myTouch 4G General] WilliamStern:
Correct. There is no need for task killers with these phones.
[myTouch 4G General] kevo817:
Glad I asked... uninstalled it, guess I'll see how it goes
[myTouch 4G General] rgoyena:
Yes sir! Plus thats why we have such big ram size
[myTouch 4G General] HeavyComponent:
Wow I didn't know this, I just uninstalled my task manager.

myTouch4G (Glacier)
[myTouch 4G General] Arcadia310:
It can also hurt battery life as well. If you constantly force close applications the phone will boot them back up which puts strain on the processor and uses more battery life.
[myTouch 4G General] borodin1:
Speaking from personal experience: once there's enough RAM in the phone, there's no need for external task killer or manager. Yes, it was necessary on the phones like G1 or original MyTouch with less then 1 year old OS. At this point, Android matured enough to handle everything on its own and it does beatiful job at it. I am almost at the point of getting MT4G, using wife's old Cliq at the moment. I can't believe how much difference extra RAM does, it never slows down for me on 2.1 de-blurred. Be extra careful downloading multiple apps though because if one misbehaves it will be hard to know which one.

Remember, free RAM is wasted ram, especially true with FroYo :-)
[myTouch 4G General] Ace42:
You should still use a task killer, just don't use an autokiller. Let's say you use play a game, open browser, open music, open 3+ other cpu intensive apps..They will not close on there own, till the ram is "extremely low". Apps still use cpu when in b/g, like syncing apps like fb and twitter.
[myTouch 4G General] bbman911:
Task Killers

I don't see any reason not to have a task killer...without it, how would you know if there is a rogue app on your system? With a task killer installed, I was able to see what apps were loading at startup and then if I rarely use it, I blocked it with Startups. This has had a huge impact (for the better) on my battery life as well.

I agree not to setup the task killer to aggressively kill tasks, but if you use it to see what is happening on your phone, I don't see the harm in them at all.
[myTouch 4G General] clivo360:
don't you think a task killer would be built into android if Google intended us to manually kill tasks?
[myTouch 4G General] Elfabaa:
I have actually been going into the packages and disabling them via a terminal emulator. It was really easy and it seems to have prevented them from launching again.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rukshmani:
I used unrevoked 3.21 to root and after that the first step where it looks for .img file was taking longer then usual to compelete, so I thought it has hboot issue o i used donwgrade hboot method with desire hboot, not I can not root my phone even. I ran ruu etc before running unrevoked but no success.Can I undo hboot thing?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david279:
desire h-boot?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kthejoker20:
Run the RUU.

Let the phone reboot to the black HTC screen.

When the RUU stops, force stop it on the pc.

Do not touch the phone, leave it at that screen.

Re-run the RUU, and it will work this time.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rukshmani:
RUU works fine to restore stock rom. Or are you saying that if I force stop and restart, it will bring back my hboot to evo hboot?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Monarky:
Can you get to the boot loader

Ok so if u have got the radio failed pu you dont have a rom anymore so you need to do this

open my computer go to c drive go to user go to your username then up at the top go to the address bar and type in appdata so for mine it would say

c:\users\chris\appdata for something like that then when your in the app data folder you will see local click on that then you will see temp click on that now to make this easyer you sould erase everything in your temp folder that you can now

download the ruu 3.30 exe and when you get it downloaded go and load it up and when the program is ready for you to go through the steps of updating just dont touch it

Go back to your temp folder and you should see a couple more folders appreare in one of thoughs folders you will see another folder and like corecomp or something like that then you will also see dotnet well go to the other folder in that folder then go to the bottom and you will see (rom) move it to your desktop and rename it PC36img or what ever its suppose to be then erase the rom on your sd card and put this one on it and then go back into your bootloader and flash that one and it should work it did for mine the only thing is it will put you back on 3.30 the s-off will still be there if you have done the unrevokted forever this will also allow you to run the unrevoked 3.21 and it will give you a partial root with super user and i still have not been able to flash custom rooms but i am running superuser and root explorer and wireless tether on my eve and it is working good

So just to recap

If you have not got to the part where you can load unrevoked forever and you do my method you will return to stock and also unrevoked 3.21 will not work unless you have s-off

Now if you have s- off but cant get roms on your phone do this method and you will be able to get the stock rom on your phone then you can run unrevoked 3.21 for windows that is the one i did but it gave me superuser and it was flawless just do what it says.

have fun hope this helps get your phone back it did mine and 2 other so im sure it will work

download ruu 3.30 from here http://www.multiupload.com/U27BZXVWWI
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kthejoker20:
Or you could just RUU and let it run on auto,

then re-root and load your custom rom.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rukshmani:
I did run RUU and got rom installed fine, but after that unrevoked does not work. It goes through first two reboots and says its a triumph and then reboots and starts the phone with rom does not go to boot loader.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rukshmani:
Doing this part now.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kthejoker20:
Unrevoked sucks.

Run the RUU.

Then run an earlier RUU and downgrade.

Then run simple root (somewhere on this forum)

that will put you back to .76 bootloader w.nand unlocked

You must be trying to load CM. CM won't run on anything except the .76 bootloader.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rukshmani:
Trying to downgrade to 1.47 but it does not allow gives me ROM Utility failure message.

I tried downgrading it by following steps in other post and can get 1.47 installed but the HBOT still says 2.2.0000, then when I run Simple root, it runs fine except the recovery can not be loaded.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tejasrichard:
I've tried to load the rooted 3.30 ruu and Myn's warm twopointtwo, it always throws a symlink error on line 10
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kthejoker20:
You need this RUU.

http://rapidshare.com/files/3899834....651.1_Radio_1.39.00.04.26_release_171253.exe

Do not use any other ones.

Then, start from scratch and do unrevoked forever first.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tejasrichard:
Can't download that. Rapidshare says I've downloaded too much.

EDIT: BTW, thanks for the help! This has been very frustrating compared to rooting the hero.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rukshmani:
Moderators, please delete this thread as my issue is reolved

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=829045

This instructions fixed it. Moderators, please delete this thread
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LinuxNewb:
When I was on DocRambone's 7.5 JPA with the older ReOrient kernel 2.1.1 I never had soft reboot problems and then it seems I started getting them after a lot of the Captivate kernels started incorporating these small tweaks.

After reading a lot of other posts other people have been having this same problem but we have no idea what is causing it. At first I thought it was one of the tweaks that you enable in the new recovery ULF tweak section but after disabling all those tweaks and doing a factory reset I was still getting them.

I tried a very untweaked setting with haptic feedback and only bln (no lagfixes, etc...) and it still happened.

Has anyone been able to find the culprit? I've tried 2 different kernels: Reorient and SetiroN's.

When I have my phone in my pocket and I'm driving I'll randomly feel haptic feedback even though I dont have a call or text and shortly thereafter I'll get 2 small vibrations and then a reboot. Once it reboots it seems to come back up for a few minutes and reboot again. I was using ChompSMS with BLN and haptic enabled and that was pretty much the only things I changed from stock.

P.S - The purpose of this thread is to put a collaborative effort in finding out WHY our phones are restarting for some unknown reason. As this community and devs grow, sometimes problems like this arise.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smokestack76:
I have seen a few post about the reboots. I have never had any with the kernels. Its kinda strange some of us dont have the issue.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pirateghost:
there are several reasons for soft reboots.

if you are running an i9000 rom with a captivate modem, you will get them

if you are running an i9000 rom with a particular modem that doesnt work in your area, you will get them when the modem tries to hand off between towers.

you can get them from oc/uv, bad framework hacks, bad rom, etc. it is all circumstantial, it all depends on what changes you have made from stock....
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LinuxNewb:
The DocRambone 7.1 and 7.5 I9000 ROM uses the JPP modem if I'm not mistaken, and I never had reboots. It wasn't until I went to reorient kernel 2.1.2 (or 2.1.3 can't remember) that these reboots occurred.

Right now I'm doing Doc 7.6 MikeyMike01 with JG8 modem and SetiroN 1.2. I also had a previous setup of using JPP and a different rom with both kernels and had reboot problems.

If the modem is somehow causing reboots I may go to the stock captivate modem and see what's going on.

So far in my apartment the phone has not rebooted by itself (has had a constant HSUPA connection). I'm also running the ROM stock without recovering any of my apps. When I leave here soon I'll see if my phone restarts. If it does, then it would appear a modem issue may be at hand.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LinuxNewb:
What type of setup do you have? :)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smokestack76:
Cog 2.3b modded with setiroNs kernel. No oc/uv enabled, Using the jpp modem with Hsdpa working.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkamikaze:
For some reason clearing dalvik cache and fix permissions in recovery did it for me..i haven't reboot since

xdaApp via Captivate
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LinuxNewb:
If my phone crashes ill try that and see if works. So far at home it's been perfect.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smokestack76:
That makes me think modem.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkamikaze:
why is that :o .. ? soft reboots did only happen to me when I wasn't home lol
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pirateghost:
as i stated earlier, the soft reboots usually occur due to modem/rom incompatibilities when the modem is trying to hand off from network to network.

this was a part of our experiments with the ji6/jpk roms that boomerod, shep, and several others were testing. it has to do mostly with the 850mhz frequency.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkamikaze:
interesting.. well i'm on JPP right now.. so far stable :o
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pirateghost:
i am on jpp right now also, and am about to go for a drive to make sure its completely stable with the handoffs.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tytdfn:
I remember one time i did a certain combination of install rom, restore apps and apply jfs lagfix and a popup came up that said i had mismatching uid's and that i had to format /data directory.

Sure enough soft reboots all.over the place after some fc's.

I found that the best way to use the lagfix is to restore apps b4 lagfix and activate the tweaks at the same time as the fix. It works for me
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fatttire:
The JG8 modem for me in Shep's ROM causes frequent soft reboots. As soon as I get rid of it, problem solved.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LinuxNewb:
Ya... as soon I started driving my phone would restart. When it's at home nice and solid connection theres no problem lol

So if we narrowed it down to a possible modem issue lets start testing which ones work.

Fatttire - If you could attach the modem you're using so we can try it out that'd be cool :) did anyone play with the combi bands or any other settings within the service mode?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LinuxNewb:
I didn't even restore apps or do any lagfixes and I'm having this issue :( Good to see yours worked for you though. Hopefully we'll find a modem thats compatible with this JPA/JPP setup.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] K-mart Shopper:
I've only used stock modems on our two captivates - occasionally they will restart out of the blue.

Once in particular I think it was because of a live wallpaper. After disabling it, everything seemed smooth running again. I just use plain black wallpaper and mine never reboots.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LinuxNewb:
Ive done so many weird configs of roms/firmware/kernel/custom frameworks and I've never had an issue with reboots. I ran a 2.1 i9000 setup with HSUPA and that never ever reset on me.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arffer:
JG8 is only to start with to enable 850

The JG8 is an Eclair modem, not Froyo. Its purpose is to use at the beginning of an install from stock JF6. Once you have the rom and kernel you want, you need to replace it with a Froyo (suggest JPP) modem.

Don't leave yourself running a Froyo (i.e. Shep) rom with an Eclair modem, you are just asking for trouble.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LinuxNewb:
I was running the JPP modem after doing the stock JF6 trick and I was still getting reboot issues with any ROM (JPA DocRambone, Tayutama's 1.0.3, and another with the JPM fw)

On my way to work I took the scenic route (just did a lot of suspension mods, yay) and I went into Airplane mode and never got 1 reboot. In my previous thread I mentioned which modem I was using.

I flashed to the XXJM4 modem (2.1 eclair modem) and even though you're saying the JG8 modem shouldn't be used on a 2.2 kernel I want to try something new out. I've tried most of the 2.2 modems in the I9000 fw's and I've had reboot problems. For lunch I'll take another drive and see if this version causes reboots.

*edit* So after driving around with the JM4 modem I couldn't get a 3g+ connection so it stayed on Edge while I drove (but didn't reboot)

What CSC are the people who AREN'T having problems running? I downloaded SGS Toolbox to get the access code for CSC version.