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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yiannisthegreek:
The issues I believe with people flashing froyo to their i9000m devices so far are due to the fact that they are NOT official releases for OUR version of the device.

It has been mentioned in other posts that our phones have some different hardward in them from the international SGS and this would be a big contributing factor to the issues that people are having after flashing to European firmware.

Dont scare people off from their OFFICIAL update. Plus... IF the OFFICIAL update for us does wreck numerous devices in the process it will give us the leverage back to go back to Bell / Samsung and FORCE them to fix the issue that they sometimes seem to ignore ESPECIALLY since Bell has a say in the final firmware version (from what I understand).
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] contalyst:
Totally agree. If froyo, from kies screws up my phone I have full recourse to get it rectified as soon as possible.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yiannisthegreek:
Absolutely!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxgg:
Geez~

With all these issues of bricking Galaxy S,,, makes new buyer to stay away from Samsung and get a HTC.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lgkahn:
there is no differences in the hardware except the 3g converter chip and antennea... there is nothting that wiould not cause the sd failures except possible the difference between 16gb and 8gb versions (but this has nothing to do with euro vs bell version).. ie there is a difference in the memory chip from 16gb to 8gb versions but this is the same with euro.. my guess is that this is the issue and froyo for some reason is harder on the memory and the Bell release when it comes out WILL trash/stress the SD just like the euro build..

also you can say you will go back to bell and hopefully they will make it right but you will be without your phone for quite a while.. i predict that when this comes out within 2 weeks we are going to have a ****storm.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yiannisthegreek:
IF this is the case then I for one will be looking into a Class Action suit against Samsung and Bell for the sale of defective devices. There are some other people who have been making strides towards the same thing but nothing has gone ahead as of yet (Im sure people are waiting to see if froyo will fix the GPS, LAG, SD Problem, etc)...

There must be some other contrubiting factor to this SD card failure other than saying that we (Canadians) got a bad batch of motherboards (I know that some European devices have this issue as well but not NEARLY as many) so I am sticking to my guns that SOMETHING must be quite different with the i9000M from the international version.

I have read other threads about the i9000B and the i9000T which look identical to ours and the i9000 (and by your account the only differences they should have is a different antenna, etc) and they cannot flash roms, etc at all from the i9000 so what makes our i9000M so special that we assume it is the exact same phone as the international version when it is obviously not ie. i9000"M"?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m58fqt:
The "M" actually stands for mobility as in bell mobility, the only difference is the decoder chip and antenna
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lgkahn:
the i9000 euro majority are 8gb version (diff chip) i know i had one and just sold it.. the i900t and i9000b also appear to be the 8gb version.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pr0cs:
Well there will be people suggesting that the device is identical but it does seem odd looking at the full 'dead Canadian SGS' list that there is some correlation with using Odin (perhaps repart) and killing i9000M models.

I was going to attempt to use one of the many 2.2 ROMS out there but I think I'll wait to see how the official 2.2 performs. At this point 2.1 is fine for me, I guess I was on WinMO long enough that lag on Android is a joke, I've been desensitized by Microsoft for too long.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedauntlessone:
People still spreading misinformation? Froyo doesn't kill your phone, just like lagfix doesn't kill your phone. They're just dying from defective hardware
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadoslayer:
Even Samsung's web site lists the i9000m as a i9000, except in the specifications. I believe the i9000m is just a model number specific to Bell.

I also did some searching (xda's search) in regards to the i9000b and i9000t, and didn't come across very many posts about those two models, let alone problems with flashing, except for the usual. Seems like the only problem was something to do with voodoo.

I bought my phone about 2 months ago, and have been running 2.2 since I got home, and haven't had any problems at all. I've even tried every lagfix in the book. Without having a i9000 to take apart to compare hardware to the i9000m, I'm betting that a bad batch was shipped out, and poop happens. Same with this "lag" some people complain about, I don't see it. Same with the GPS "problem", it works fine for me.

Anyway, without any official failure rate numbers from Samsung, we're all just speculating. It's fun, I know, but not very helpful. And if you bought a phone off ebay or at a pawn shop and expect Bell to cover your warranty, welp, good luck with that.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yiannisthegreek:
AMEN BROTHER!!! LOL!!! :D My Samsung Omnia was as laggy as they come (until I tweaked it from www.careace.net) so I know what you mean. However...

I must say... that little Omnia was absolutely great in other ways ie. GPS, etc. I ALMOST miss using it... LOL!!! :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gemini8026:
Im also on Sasktel (to one of the above posters) and I work for Sasktel! No mention yet, as we got our phones from Bell and have the same firmware. We should get the update the minute the bell froyo is released....

My SGS 16gb 9000m has been ok. It gets laggy. GPS works, but not too accurate in realtime.

Ive tried Voodoo, and OCLF. voodoo gave me file system errors at times in Google maps, but OCLF has been ok so far. No errors, and no lag. voodoo also got really laggy as well as the file system errors and strange behaviour........ Im not sure why, but OCLF is running a lot better for me!

Ive set up 3 push email accounts, and am pretty intense on my phone, so batteyr life is terrible for me, but I love the functionality, and have chargers all over the place!

I liek the phone, but im anxious to get onto Froyo for Flash support as I have some good uses for it. As well as other features like enhanced Bluetooth, as id like to get a mini keyboard working for it for games and extended typing sessions!

HURRY UP BELL/SAMSUNG :)

p.s - my urge for froyo is much less since I installed OCLF. The lag is what pissed me off the most
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] terranq:
Ha, me too!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Videonut:
What about the front camera? does the euro version have it also?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neil85ae86:
can't believe ppl are talking 2.3 already

we don't even have 2.2 yet!

I'd be happy with a solid 2.1 with great GPS!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarthV:
Bite the bullet and go with one of the cooked ROMs. Best thing I have done with the phone was to go with Doc's jpo froyo. Night and day compared to JH2 + lagfix.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] got_milk:
QFT.

I also did a GPS test using Google Nav on my way home from school today and found it to be almost spot on, which is great.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Patsecord:
Can't connect to Kies

I'm sorry if this subject has been dealt with but after searching everywhere on the web for a solution, i still can't connect to Kies. I have an i9000m from Bell, I'm running Windows 7 32 bit. Kies is version 1.5.3.100093.82 , i know I'm going to need Kies to get the froyo update so if someone can send me in the right direction or can tell me how to do it, i would be most appreciative. As i said before I'm sorry if i am bringing up an old topic.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frandromeda:
I hate to get all "conspiracy theory" but I wonder if there's something in UGJK3 that purposefully accelerates internal SD failure if it's already present. We all know something is wrong with the hardware on some devices; maybe Samsung has built something into the latest ROM to weed out those devices that are already prone to failure? Like an SD card stress test on the first boot or something. There have been *a lot* of people (like me!) who've seen their internal sdcards fail after flashing to JK3, (seems like more than usual for a new ROM?) but for some it works flawlessly...

Maybe Samsung is going to fully stock the Bell stores with new i9000m's before they officially release Froyo, and they'll simply replace any phones that come in for a few days after the update is released. Seems like a good way to fix a problem without acknowledging that there's a problem. I can't believe that Samsung (and all major phone makers for that matter) wouldn't monitor these forums, so they have to at least be aware that there's an issue.

But again, maybe I'm just reading more into a situation than is really there...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samdroid_G_S:
I'm sure Samsung lurks over these forums.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3rdcoast:
That and they don't have to. Getting thousands of returns for the same problem gives them a big clue. Bell isn't going to eat that cost. I'd be on my 3rd S if the 2nd didn't have download mode where I could factory reset it, again.

Meanwhile, I've given up on Samsung and flashed JK3 myself and testing some alternative ROMs. So so much better. Not yet perfect but finally the device is useful. But never again will I buy Samsung unless they decide to swap me out for a Tab which I'm sure will happen any moment now... But not a chance will I even consider buying one.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fast1fred:
I am really leaning the same way in terms of avoiding Samsung now. My SD card died and my phone is out for repairs. I have a Windows Phone 7 for now, and I may just stick to it.

Once the SGS comes back, I'll probably just sell it. It sounds like even if they fix the phone by changing the motherboard, it's just a matter of time until the SD card fails again. I've read so many stories here on XDA of people on their 3rd SGS phones already.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BottleB:
WHAT? 3 days without charging? I don't even get one ! Stock JH2!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dm-digital:
JK3 has much better battery life over JH2. With the way I use my phone I don't think I could get 3 days out of it but I could get 2 with light use. I usually see about 1.25-1.5% per hour.

As for Odin being the cause for SD failure, it's no different then flashing with Kies or CWR. The data is still being written to the SD in basically the same way but just done via a different method. Bell is seeing a high failure rate and people flashing are a very small percentage of that. The majority of people using the I9000M are running stock unrooted phones and they are running into the same problems.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grokon:
It looks to be now available via Kies...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
really?!?!?! :eek:

can't wait to get home and try it on the official release. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grokon:
however had to use registry hack 1.60

however I had to user registry hack 1.6.0.0 ...

As I am running Froyo already, had no choice.... my colleague with stock Bell firmware, did not see the update available either...

but the process does not goes through correctly... cannot connect to server...

EDIT: danm! don't know why can't attach image...

EDIT2: ok succeed converting to jpg
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
Did you witness this yourself or heard of this?

Without any hack? Official?

I just checked and nothing is available, in Quebec
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grokon:
Messing with my edit while you answered... so it is partially available... :(

EDIT:downloading now... took 3 times... and had to apply not battery check

EDIT2: updated and rebooting now... let see ....
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
You had the official in Kies from Bell, without any "hacks and tricks"?

Are you in Quebec?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grokon:
2 post higher...

had to use registry hack 1.6.0.0

However the update is finished and it look to be working fine..

As I was already running Doc1.1 JK3 , i did not made a factory reset... will see how it goes but i'll probably do this...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
So, no official releases from bell then :S
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
well if it shows up in Kies during TEST mode it's pretty close to official

I'll definitely take the plunge with this release via KIES

I don't mind flashing stuff with Odin or CWR, but they are usually stuff from samsfirmware and... those don't feel very safe :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C.Flat:
Hm. But not truly Official
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greeced:
Can someone point me to this registry hack 1.6? I've tried searching and I've been unsuccessful.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grokon:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=835628&highlight=kies+patcher
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grokon:
OK made a factory reset

flashed a second time

then pretty sure, it is not the final Bell release.... no bloatware :) , no APN :(

also lost my 3BR...

Sorry guys!!! ... it looks, for now, to be the same than getting it from samfirmwares... :o
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] got_milk:
Weird...the JK3 we decrypted awhile back which I'm running has the APN already set and all the Bell bloatware included. Anyone else missing the APN and bloatware via Kies?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dm-digital:
SamsungFUSNews just tweeted...

Model: GT-I9000M | Code: BMC | Version: I9000UGJK3/I9000BMCJK3/I9000UGJK3 | Date: 25.11.2010 15:38 | Size: 178,9 MB | ID: 2819532517
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babaji.ca:
Sorry, could you please explain who he is and what that tweet means?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] got_milk:
Still JK3...doesn't look like anything new here.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dm-digital:
It lists a different file size and date. Could mean some changes to JK3 in prep for official.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BottleB:
Whoa awesomeness approaching
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samdroid_G_S:
Hmmm interesting, I will stick with the original JK3 for now though, see no reason to flash this as I have not had any issues with this release.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babaji.ca:
What are these files he's tweeting? Betas available through Kies? Or some other source?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hiwiredjuice:
keep this going any update yet?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] montrealguy:
Just to give you guys an update:

I flashed using the Kies registry hack to get the Froyo update. I now have JPO from the UK, with no speed fix, and it is very stable and the GPS is out of this world.

Before you flash, make sure of three things: 1) you have access to the 3 button recovery or download mode and 2) you have erased everything on your sdcard and have done a factory reset before AND after the flashing. 3) install apps through the market and not through Appbrain just to be safe (at least in the beginning). This will ascertain that you download Froyo apps and not 2.1 apps that might create problems.

Right after I flashed JPO with Kies, it started working but after installing some apps with Appbrain, my phone bricked and I heard vibrating. It turns out that I hadn't done a factory reset before and the apps data was creating a conflict. Recovery mode didn't work, but I was able to access download mode, so I flashed again using Odin and JPO from Samfirmware. I was then able to access 3 button recovery. I did a factory reset and the phone started perfectly. I haven't had a problem since.

As for the GPS- it is astonishing how fast it finds and locks on to satellites. My GPS was non-functional before and now it is MINDBLOWING. When it doesn't lock on, I open GPS Status app and delete and reset GPS data. I put my phone out my window on the 7th floor and it finds and locks onto 8/8.

In my experience, the procedure is pretty safe. Just install through Kies, do the factory resets before and after, don't root, don't lagfix.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
One question: Is this the beta for bell (you are in Test mode with Kies?) or is it available trough some kind of location hack?

if it's trough Test Mode, how did you get into test mode? I can't switch with latest kies :S
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
follow this guide, it will tell you everything you need to know

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=853950

yes JK3 is beta Froyo for Bell, but it is very stable and fast
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kinghorsey:
JK3 just ate my battery incredibly fast when I tried it. This was with very low usage, too. Switched back to 2.1 and the battery can last me two days.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dm-digital:
Battery is better with JK3. Make sure no data from 2.1 is left on the phone. Wipe, factory reset, flash, factory reset.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nightmare56:
exactly. battery life sucked on jpo using kies. then i flashed jk3 (docs) and battery life is amazing again. fresh start is the best way, delete everything :cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MarkI9000:
Can someone here please tell me why it is so urgent to upgrade to Froyo?

What is there to be gained?

What is there to be lost?

TIA
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3rdcoast:
That's a rhetorical question right?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ccrows:
Wipe as format the "Internal Memory"?

Is that even safe with these Bell phones?... :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
I can't tell for others but for myself, I like to test em out and try the new things... The geek inside me is always asking for more! But for "normal everyday users" it's not worth it, as it can lead to bugs and unusual behavior. If it's working nicely, don't mess with it if you don't intend to "fool around"

Wipe as "Hard Reset" and clear caches from the recovery menu BEFORE AND AFTER the flash.

Anyway, you'd be better to have the device fail on you within the first year, where it could be serviced.

On another note, I finally descided to take the plunge! I tought I'd wait for the "official" but I can't take it no more! Even worst when all of you are saying it's pretty much the best of release! So I'm waiting for my battery to be full to hard reset and erase everything then flash this baby! ;)

I can't beleive I was able to hold this long though! With my old (vogue), I was flashing like there was no tomorow! (many times per weeks :S)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mad2x:
I did everything properly, went from 2.1 eclair to 2.2 jk3, wipe factory and cache, then flashed with odin. Then right after did another wipe, then install all my apps with market. Everything works good, except once in a while if I load and app, or movie or something, it hangs, and vibrates pretty hard. the screen goes black and I have to press the menu button, close the app, and load it back up and then it works fine. I flashed yesterday morning and it's happend to me like 3-4 times. Is this sign that my internal sd is dying? tks
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greeced:
Yup, thats the exact same thing that started happening with me... I went into the market, and it gave me a hard vibrate a few times, then exited out to a Black screen and eventually the home screen came back with a weird forced close message.

Then after a while, TWlauncher or something forced closed and screwed my phone. (After a few hours).

Hope thats not the case with you, but it was the case with me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samdroid_G_S:
You mention you did another wipe after the flash but did you do a factory reset after flashing to 2.2? If you did not I suggest doing a factory reset now. FC's are usually memory related it's hard to say if your SD is dyeing or not IMO only time will tell that, we all had FC's I am sure at one time or another but we don't all have defective SD's . If the factory reset does not fix your issue or you already factory reset after you flashed 2.2 (JK3) then try going into settings/applications/manage applications select all at the top , find the media player you use select it clear its cache and clear data then go to Gallery/camera and clear the data/cache there as well. I was getting some fc's on my gallery when trying to set a different wallpaper along with LP constantly FCing (I uninstalled re-installed that) and everything has been running smoothly since.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mad2x:
Hi thanks for the help, I have done a wipe factory reset in the recovery menu, but not under froyo, would this make a difference?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hiwiredjuice:
the way you are describing it. its force closing when it vibrates. i would recommend flash with odin again with no pit and try it.

I don't use this method anymore because of the problems that occur. I use clockwork mod and that has saved my sd card 3 times already. Also another thing that might be causing the force closes is using apps that were from the 2.1 try downloading the new ones from the market on 2.2 and also try 1 app at a time to see which one makes phone act up. my 2 cents
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1mman:
Weird Thing now, when I plug it in kies, It says that I'm on JG9 even if the phone itself shows JK3

anyone had this?

Also, samfirmware has I9000DTJP5, does this mean taht JK3 won't be the final?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dm-digital:
samfirmware.com put JP5 in the wrong spot, it's XSA for Australia.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greeced:
Data Wipe/Factory Reset, Clear Cache all made no difference to my phone experiencing a hardware failure (SD). I did all of that explicitly following the instructions in the other thread (well my friend did).

Anyway. After a long drawn out process with Bell, its in for repair. They are now (maybe they always have) charging a $35 fee to send it in for repair. If they deem its not damaged by the user than the fee is returned.

They better refund me, or someone will have hell to pay!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mad2x:
What do you mean by flash with odin again with no pit?

Now it's gotten even worse some of my icons just disappear on my home screen. The same 3 ones all the time. Even when I put them back they always disappear... What should I do now?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MarkI9000:
No, I'm dead serious.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] urself25:
Well flashing a device is user related. If the damage was done because you flash it using odin then you will mostly have to pay. Sorry.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samdroid_G_S:
When I was asking about factory reset I ment after you installed froyo not before.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samdroid_G_S:
If the SD is dead theres no way for them to tell as long as he flashed a JH2 or JK3 stock Rom so it displays i9000m while booting before bringing it back.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kinghorsey:
Using the Kies registry patcher from here I'm showing (and now installing :)) that the latest Bell beta is JK4 whereas previously it was JK3.

After installing it still shows as I9000UGJK3. Kernel version 2.6.32.9 shout.lee@SEP-09 #1

Build# FROYO.UGJK3