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[Epic 4G Android Development] cabi24:
It is BS that they told him to stop developing his own code. Am i right in saying that there is no code in place in the current release that interfaces with the hardware? This is our hardware, we paid for it and they released it to us. If it is using their code as a base, then that is one thing; but if they are just telling him to stop developing... That is wrong... Sprint and Sammy never fail to get me really mad...

I'm getting a vaporware feeling about a good release of 2.2 for the epic.

Anyways, enough venting...

I guess them sending that letter could be a sign that sprint and sammy are working on 2.2 with TV-out. (or they are just pigs)
[Epic 4G Android Development] arashed31:
Obviously the latter.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KL4V1CL3:
Tmillar or anybody from ACS willing to make an official statement? Explain what happened to this?
[Epic 4G Android Development] mikey80021:
I thought that with the ruling made on jailbreaking the iphone, that we are allowed to use our hardware as we wish? As long as they aren't using proprietary drivers, what would be the issue?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ungovernable1977:
Neutered Epic= incentive to wait for an EVO with artificially induced demand, because HTC is such a small company, they cant make enough of em... right.

I dont remember any advertising regarding the TV out's, but I remember otherwise uninformed sales reps telling me it had it before launch when they put up the one poster in my sprint store, and I decided to wait rather than get an evo.... then launch week when I got one, I think he said it would 'come with 2.2 at the end of the month'... just like Dock function, yadda yadda yadda.... anyone ever see any real advertising? Either an actual ad or sprintsung telling someone like engadget it would be activated??? I would LOVE both, HDMI better... but I try to forget anything lower than Component existed...
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Maybe it was not officially advertised. But if you can stream movies to other devices why would you not have the ability to host signal to a tv. If I only had an sd card reader on my bedroom tv I would be great. Hmmm might have to buy a new tv sooner than I wanted.
[Epic 4G Android Development] rjmjr69:
Its being worked on. As for any letters that I am unaware of but if there were any Im sure it would have more to do with proprietary CODE not open source so that being said.

Yes we are working on this yes we hope to have a report for you with good news in the near future...........
[Epic 4G Android Development] ZenInsight:
Thanks for the reply. I'm on ACS now and it's excellent. Love to see a version of CM7 with an ACS spin on it including tv-out. I actually want the 3.5 jack option much more than hdmi.
[Epic 4G Android Development] anfrany:
A few posts after k0nane made the claim about the cease and desist he retracted it, yes?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ghostrid3r:
Varporware....

I have yet to see any concrete evidence that the Epic contains the chipset needed to get 3.5 TV-OUT working which is present in the captive and International version of the Galaxy S line.

not to be a 'debby downer' but I don't think the Epic will ever get 3.5 TV-OUT because it lacks the chipset for that function on the Epic. Therefore, I believe this is a 'dead horse' project.

Can someone confirm the presence of the TV-OUT chipset in the Epic?
[Epic 4G Android Development] DCRocks:
I saw the following posted a while back:

source thread
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Ghostrider this is all that needs to be said. If team ACS is working on it we will have it.

CYANBREAD
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ryoma Echizen:
2.3 Development in the near future?

Looks great, and I can't wait for the rom. When do you think it will be possible to write a 2.3.1 rom? I had a hero, and the source from different devices was ported to the hero, which allowed for an android 2.3 rom. Would this be possible to do on the epic, such as a nexus port like you are doing? Or am I just restating the idea of this project? I am a little bit confused, so can someone explain what we will be able to do in the coming months? I really would like to write a stock 2.3 rom for the epic, really slimmed down ( I remember the cyanogenmod for the hero was only 50 mb or so, it might be possible to get an epic rom down to 75 or 80 mb). Is it even possible to remove the touchwiz framework? I do like touchwiz, but sometimes I wish our phone was based off of stock 2.1 or 2.2, since I think it would be easier to add different mods (or framework, like sense) than to remove a framework that was originally on the phone.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ryoma Echizen:
Also, would it be possible to take 2.2 source code without touchwiz frameworks and make a working custom rom for the epic? Why would the frameworks be needed for a functional rom, when the hardware is essentially the same as the nexus s (correct me if I am wrong)? (And the camera is better than the evo 4g, my uncle has one and I compared nocturnal and daytime picture quality. Sort of like my hero had a 5 mp camera and its MUCH worse than the iphone 4's 5 mp camera. I think the camera mp scheme is ridiculous). I know there is a good reason why we couldn't remove the frameworks completely (such as the taskiller and the sprint hotspot), but can someone clarify? (Sorry if this is a overly complicated, or just a noob question, for that matter. Thanks in advance. :) )
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ryoma Echizen:
Thanks for clearing that chipset info up. I was curious as well.
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Keep an eye out for future developments, folks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] schnowdapowda:
Air guitar anybody?

cd's or tapes?
[Epic 4G Android Development] arashed31:
I wish we could get 1080p video playback working. The GPU easily supports it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] sndtubes:
Anyone still working on this?
[Epic 4G Android Development] k0nane:
Yes. tmillar is still hard at work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] lilmexx:
The last real update was back in January. I know the accident and all, but has progress been made and what is the status? Back in January, the update made it sound as if things were near completion and close to final.. Any update anyone can give to enligten us following this thread all this time.

Thanks
[Epic 4G Android Development] sndtubes:
Thanks, K0nane. Any idea of how close he is? I'm hoping we'll have this feature before it's time to change phones again LOL
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
3.5mm to RCA is the last remaining thing to make my phone the most badass thing to use on a daily basis. I'm running an app called Multi Picture Live Wallpaper, and I've not a very nice slideshow of women on various types of cars, bikes, trucks, boats, etc and I'd love to see if on the screen in my X5. Plus it'd be cool to be able to play all these Gameloft games on my TV.

The EVO guys have an app that allows them to reproduce everything on the screen via HDMI similar to the way the Fascinate does w/ the 3.5mm jack, but I'd still prefer that we get TV Out via 3.5mm so I can use it in the truck. TV Out via the MicroUSB would be ok, but then I'd limited as to where I'd be able to use it, not to mention the MicroUSB to HDMI cable is still around $50 while I got a 3.5mm to RCA cable for around $8 shipped.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
I agree 100%. This is all we are missing. Especially if it can be accomplished.
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Early in the morning bump....lol

Well, if we're talking about this heavy type of modding, wouldn't having both options be ideal? lol :p

Honestly tho, I don't think id wanna stretch my 800 x 480 homescreen on to my flatscreen with an rca (movies wouldn't be so bad tho)...also, from what he put in his last update, it sounded like the USB to HDMI work was in conjunction with a bunch of other USB mode/functions that sound cool to me and are prbly useful to more knowledgable ppl that actually know what they mean....lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] lilmexx:
Bump.. Anything for an update.. It seems like its always keep an eye out for something soon and never nothing showing up... I am thinking if this was possible it would have been accomplished long before now, esp with all the interest in this.. Could you imagine the popularity of the rom having this feature??
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
From my understanding, there are like 3-4 guys working on this compared to hundreds of people working on a functional 2.2 release, so I think a little patience is expected. We all want this, but hounding him isn't going to make it happen any quicker.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Its not only tmillar working on this its the whole ACS team which means very promising things.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I don't know how many members are part of the ACS, but point made...it's not hundreds of people, it's just a handful. We've waited this long. Just remember that if we have to chose, 3.5mm to RCA since it'll have far more uses and far cheaper cables vs HDMI :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] imdjenk:
If this gets working along with wiimote compatibility I'll be in nerd heaven.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Even if its the 3.5mm it will be awesome
[Epic 4G Android Development] ArchangelRenzoku:
Well I just streamed Tron from this phone through my 360 and watched it in stunning 1080i... I don't really see a need for a corded out if it's available for stream. Pretty much if you own a 360 or PS3 you should be able to do this as well right?

With all the new TV's and TV technology coming out, they will be getting rid of cords all together anyway. By the time this is figured out, there will be an "Epic 2" or something out anyway. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is on this one lol.

I thought a team was working on enabling the FM radio in this phone since they say the wireless card is extremely similar to the Evo's and that phone is able to use FM... Same principle as the TV out, it will be obsolete soon and you can stream the radio anyway lol. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] imdjenk:
I stream stuff too but try that with Psx4Droid.
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
Meh..DLNA has yet to take off. And its not like the technology is that new. I have serious doubts itll get to be mainstream. And I don't think you'll ever see devices like xbox and playstation get rid of cords...the data transmission rates are just too good. I for one would absolutely love to see this project come to fruition. I fully support the devs working on this.

On a side note, its interesting you mention the FM radio. I wasn't aware they got it to work on the evo...does it use the wifi card or the regular radio? I ask this because I was actually speculating last week whether such a thing was possible (using wifi card), and its funny you mentioned it because its never something I heard of before, I just thought of it one day lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] othan1:
Try streaming a recorded video from your phone to your TV through the PS3. Can't do it. Format not supported.

Those movies/TV shows you bought off of Samsung Media Hub? Can't watch 'em anywhere but the phone. Can't view on TV through DLNA.

My mom's old TV with only RCA inputs? Yeah, gotta make an old woman watch her grandkids through a (relatively) tiny screen. Can't just hook up the cables and go.

Those are just a few scenarios where I've found DLNA lacking.

Streaming Radio? Um...isn't that called "a radio"?
[Epic 4G Android Development] ArchangelRenzoku:
From what I heard, it was using the wifi card. That's where the speculation came from about using the same card, technology, and method to get it working on the Epic. It was some forum on SDX. I will try to find it again when I get home.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ArchangelRenzoku:
If the PS3 that can play Blue-Rays, use bluetooth and has built-in wireless N technology can't play an MP4, then you need to be thinking about a new system. Say, a certain Microsoft product? :cool:

Like using Samsung's built-in, apps? Use that Allshare app and stream to your computer. As long as the file stays on the phone, the DRM license allows it to be viewed on whatever.

Forget the TV and go sit at the computer. If that TV only has RCA inputs, your computer screen should be bigger anyway :P ahaha, j/k j/k

Radio app. And because of the lag between actual broadcast and online reception, devs refuse to call it an actual radio.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Instead of chugging my ps3 upstairs. I would just stream movies from pc to phone to rca only tv. If dlna or wifi was in the tv problem solved ugh but no.
[Epic 4G Android Development] diptenkrom:
Radio would be nice. I have a computer hooked to my 64" tv already so I can use old emulators and play pc games on the big screen, so I can use that if need be.

Sent from stock EC05 OTW...
[Epic 4G Android Development] gTen:
The biggest issue is DRM, while DLNA supports DRM it does not define a standard for it..thats been the biggest hold back for DLNA..

As stated, its mostly DRM which has been holding DLNA back....DLNA is well supported....now add WiGi over 60hz frequency to the mix and you got yourself something!

Again DRM is the problem...

DLNA is not limited to any standard form of transmition..you can transmit DLNA over anything whether it be Wifi, bluetooth, ethernet, usb, firewire or anything....on epic we use allshare which uses wifi but does not support DRM...I think if we get the version off the SGS 2 of allshare it supports drm
[Epic 4G Android Development] gTen:
From what I read the current Allshare app does not support DRM, and the one in SGS 2 does..

There are many DRM standards and etc..so it adds some complexity..right now they are on v1.5 of DLNA and has come a long way.so I do also think DLNA is the future....

But as I latest Allshare in sgs 2 has DRM support so we may be able to port it to our phones.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ArchangelRenzoku:
The best and worst thing about DRM is that with each file, the creators set user permissions:

Stream

Copy

Move

Edit

etc...

If the DRM file you are trying to access says you can't stream it, it's no bueno. There is nothing you can do about it. Allshare supports DRM protected media, but it all depends on the individual file. I wont say there is a lot of DRM protected media you can stream, but it exists, which is my point.

I could totally look forward to that. I'd be willing to donate to such a project.
[Epic 4G Android Development] txtmikhail:
So wats the status on this project?
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Bump for status?
[Epic 4G Android Development] imdjenk:
This project has popped up in a few places and no one has gotten it working yet. Whatever the hump is it must have everyone stumped. :(
[Epic 4G Android Development] tmillar07:
UPDATE! Will change OP today...

A few of the ACS team members(RJMJR, tanimn, & k0nane) and I have made quite a leap in this development tonight. I will post more in the AM including screen shots, logs, etc.

The service is started, is recognizing the 3.5mm plug to 3 rca cord, and is outputting signal to the jack. Any experienced debuggers and/or individuals with knowledge on this, please send me a message ASAP.

Thank you for your patience, and stay tuned for one of the Epic's best releases yet!
[Epic 4G Android Development] txtmikhail:
yes...can u post a link to the cables u are using for this project?
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
The best news I could have possibly woken up to :))

Not to be picky, but any plans for the usb modes you were working on previously?
[Epic 4G Android Development] runngwlf:
They are using something like this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0042B6IQS/ref=pe_53930_19486500_pe_vfe_t1 Im sure.
[Epic 4G Android Development] roghaj:
Sounds like they are at the exact same spot they were months ago. People have gotten the rgb output to display text to a display long ago. Beta1; I don't think that warrants posting in the OP to get everyone's hopes up, seeing as there has been zero functionality added.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KitsunePaws:
From what I've seen of this thread EVERY "update" is just that, OP making some statement or comment and calling it an update. Annoying and useless.
[Epic 4G Android Development] txtmikhail:
well when noon gets here hopefully we will see some progress being done....
[Epic 4G Android Development] Jed Dignazio:
Wow, lets not shine a negative light here yet, i mean geez, I dont see anybody else coming up with anything for this Tv-out fix. I am greatfull if I see any progress to get my Tv-out working. Donation will be made from me if a working fix is completed.

I have become skeptical and lost hope over the past few months too.

Thanks for all the effort so far. I hope there is a shimmer of hope! Keep going and dont let negative comments slow this down!
[Epic 4G Android Development] icreative:
Nice, but where i can buy cable?)=
[Epic 4G Android Development] muyoso:
This is really cool if it works. I was hoping for usb to hdmi personally though.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Best buy for sure I had to pick one up or my Sony Handicam there before.
[Epic 4G Android Development] icreative:
dreamsforgotten, please give link to ebay, i live at Ukraine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Just search video rca to 3.5mm jack. Its just a rca wires with the yellow video plug to 3.5mm headphone jack. Radioshack
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
I think they have it completed and working.
[Epic 4G Android Development] imdjenk:
Man if they got this working that is awsesome. There is always a way and sometimes the only way is time and patience. We appreciate all the hard work! :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] roghaj:
This thread is like a strange blind date.

You meet for dinner.

You see her from across the room. Looks great.

You get closer and notice she has an Adams apple.

You know something is up, but she seems really into you.

You try to push away suspicion.

She asks to go back to your place, but that darn Adams apple.

She might have a growth on her throat, you think.

This thread has shown us its Adams apple.

I'm not getting in bed with it until I see the goods.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
I think your right, or at least the finish line is in sight

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-5mm-Mini-AV-3...429?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19b5942d55

Link to ebay 3.5mm audio to rca video, there's plenty different ones just don't slip up and buy the 3.5 to FEMALE rca!
[Epic 4G Android Development] iSaint:
Wow... so many things to try out today :D:D:D:D
[Epic 4G Android Development] NEXUS 4G:
build it urself than
[Epic 4G Android Development] chris41g:
+1 if its so annoying quit coming and reading...
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
+100000 these guys need all the encouragement and support from us to do this free stuff. Not some piss ant coming in here leaving rude remarks.

Waiting impatiently for the update..........
[Epic 4G Android Development] txtmikhail:
ok so where is it at?
[Epic 4G Android Development] tmillar07:
Check original post, added screenshot. More to follow throughout the day.
[Epic 4G Android Development] roghaj:
I like snake oil as much as the next guy.

Screen shot of Adams apple on OP.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
You also seem to like going into threads which you have no stake and making ignorant comments. Seems like your begging for attention so I just shot some your way...Enjoy! ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] tmillar07:
Keep on hating.

Gotta love the assholes like that. Here's a thought: why don't you do something useful, and instead of criticizing people for their work(many, many hours have been spent on this project, and all by people who do it for FREE), and cool your sarcastic bull****, because it's just flat out rude and annoying. And on a side note to all the other people with something dumb to say: Save it. If you have an issue, oh well, I'm not forcing you to be involved with this, nor am I making you read it.

Everybody else: thank you for your continued support, and positive attitude about a project that is being developed in my spare time, and is purely done to help out the online development community and it's patrons.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dreamsforgotten:
Once again tmiller, thank you for your work I know more behind the scenes and that theres never been much downtime since you started most can't imagine the hours you got invested in!
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Alright! Good stuff! Ignore the haters. I would rather wait for it to work properly than for a rushed release that may have bugs
[Epic 4G Android Development] txtmikhail:
so wat bugs have u found ?
[Epic 4G Android Development] AndroidAdvocate:
Great job. Keep up your good work. Forget the smart asses. They forget their not paying for anything. I wish I knew what you know I'll help. Cant wait to try it out!
[Epic 4G Android Development] biscojams:
I cannot believe you idiots complaining and *****ing about this not working yet. Whoever said the thread update is annoying and.pointless - what the **** is your problem? Who do you think you are. Its people like you that would make me think twice about releasing ANYTHING if I was a developer. These people are doing this for no money , on their on time. You sound like a 12 year old whiny little brat. Why are you even here?

Note to devs: i love you all and appreciate everything you do. Thank you for unleashing the full potential of these phones. Good luck , I know you all can get it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NEXUS 4G:
i see uve made some good progress, have u been able to get video and audio output to the second scree... great work. also i see it says beta in the OP, is there a way i can run this on my phone, and do u have to be on stock eb13/ec05/wutever, or would this work with cm7/miui/or any other rom out there...

this is very impressive, and i think going the way of 3.5 was the best choice, not every one has an hdtv with hdmi everywhere they go... great work tmillar, thx for not giving up
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
He said email him if you want to help. His address in op.
[Epic 4G Android Development] m5james:
I'm happy this project has went more towards 3.5mm to RCA...more usable everyday and the cable is far cheaper. RCA will be perfect for me in my car, especially since it reproduces EVERYTHING on the screen vs HDMI only showing videos. I've seen videos on YouTube of people playing Gameloft games on their Captivate over a normal sized LCD TV and the picture was good enough for cool things like that, so it'll be perfect on the 7" screen in my truck for doing GPS, playing music, etc.

I've got a laptop w/ a wireless mouse and keyboard running through a docking station if I want to do anything internet wise on my actual TV. With apps like Dual Mount, WebSharing and RemoteSMS installed on my phone, I can do EVERYTHING (videos, pics, send texts, etc) via my laptop hooked up to my TV vs sitting on the floor w/ my phone hooked up to a 3ft HDMI cable just to attempt to watch a video.

Are there any screen shots of it actually showing any video at all as of yet?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Kif420:
Great things are coming!

Sent from my '' Bag Phone ''
[Epic 4G Android Development] squshy 7:
I just really hope this will be easily ported to other ROMs...i dont want to see this be an ACS only thing
[Epic 4G Android Development] 9kracing:
They shared the carrier IQ removal, I don't see why this wouldn't be shared as well. ACS seems like they are out to help the compunity... I see no concern over donations or routing to another website from any of those guys.
[Epic 4G Android Development] flyers2114:
Don't pay attention to the morons who have zero intelligence and just troll to get attention....keep doing great work....the good people here fully support the work being done....to the doubters....its very simple....don't come and read the thread....problem solved....

Sent from flyers Epic powered by ACS!