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[HD7 General] Rouz.:
MAGLDR is out ... does anyone know if there will be a version compatible with HD7 in the future?

It can be a great bootloader for us, since its capable of booting wp7 too. so we can get the option of booting wp7 from nand, and android from SD.

I tried asking for HD7 support from cotulla (on twitter and xda), but didnt get any reply. He should be pretty busy nowadays; but personally i think it won't be that hard to port it to HD7, ... well, not for cotulla anyway!
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
ya its not difficult.... its kind of impossible....
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
guys good news for the HD2 owners... HTC have come up with a Android ROM which will run from the ROM itself not the SD card.. so now the HD2 can be a full ANdroid phone as there is no hope of running the WP7 on it..
[HD7 General] nrfitchett4:
This is a dev/ learning site? Then why do 99% of the posts have nothing to do with developing? And who do you think you are with your 3 month membership and 1 post to come on here belittleing members?

I don't see it coming anytime soon due to MS not releasing much of the native code yet. I think it would be tough to write a program that inserts itself into bootup without that code.

HTC didn't release the nand android rom for hd2, DFT did. And it seems to have some of the same problems of the sd card version. Data is still a problem for some, gps for others, battery life. I'm gonna give it a month or so before I try it with the 2 hd2's in the household.
[HD7 General] Riot147:
This is a valid query. So the flaming needs to stop. Android on the hd7 is possible as I'm working on it right now . If I had some dev help it would go faster but I'm doing my best. Looking to post beta within the next month. The reason we stuck with wm is because of the versatility of the software...it has endless possibilities for os and much more as xda has proven with the dozens of phones on here. Darkstone, nrgz28 and many others have proven what's possible so just be patient. Thank you.
[HD7 General] Riot147:
Try darkstones ver 5 Android rom. It works entirely including those problems mentions. ..even the hardware buttons light up in sync with phone applications and calls. You can get it at gamesquare.co.uk
[HD7 General] nrfitchett4:
so what you are saying is that you are going to have a nand bootable version of android released in around a month for the hd7???

It took over a year to get a bootable version on the hd2 and the hd7 isn't exactly the same thing.
[HD7 General] Rouz.:
thats some good news ... good luck Riot!
[HD7 General] rahulkadukar:
Guys a dual boot would basically be cool, I mean who would not want one phone with the best of both worlds.

I know there are many Android options but that does not mean you carry two phones when one can do the trick :)
[HD7 General] mike21pr:
Can anyone please tell me where the h3ll it says that the hd7 is already running android????

Sorry... Its that im from puerto rico and a lot of people ine online classifieds website sell hd7's swearing that it runs android as well O_O

I called someone that was trading a mytouch 4G for an hd7 and he said, that it had to run android... I said "you are looking for an hd2 then because hd7 dont run android" and he is dead convinced that im wrong and i does have the ability to run the OS and he wont trade it unless the hd7 does...

Am i missing something? because i know for a fact that its not happening atm. Had to get that out of my system because it sickens me how poeple will spread false rumors to make it appeal more or foll potential buyers as well as confuse the general public

/VENT
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
all scam, or maybe they are selling you the desire HD or EVO..
[HD7 General] deconfrost:
I too would love to see Android on HD7, I have bought both just yesterday and waiting for them to arrive. both are good phones, but I just think the HD7 can do better with Android OS. Keep it up Dev's, its not about buy an android if you need/want android then get one comes with android, its possibilities, and comparison when both running the same OS, finally choices to switch OS on the one same device.
[HD7 General] oc_masta:
why hinder progress in rom development for the HD7, if you dont like it dont use it and let everyone else benefit from it.

Got a HD2 and love the rom development for android on it. If it were to happen with the HD7, i would get a HD7, for the simple facts that:

The QSD8250 has still got life in it, as other manufacturers still adopt it in new phones. And definitly isnt used to full potential in mainstream yet.

-The HD7 has a 16m colour LCD, compared to the 65K on the HD2, which is the only downside imo with the HD2 compared to todays phones.

-The HD7 has much better audio quality than the HD2, probably due to change in DAC.

-The HD7 has 8/16gb of BUILT IN NAND storage, no more booting from slow sd card storage. Which will be perfect for running MULTIPLE roms at FULL speed.

-ALSO, if HTC is even worth their salt as a phone manufacturer, they would have improved general design over the HD2.

HD2 is a excellent phone still, and still holds its own against the HD7, the rom development will ultimately decide if HD2 owners migrate to the HD7.

ALL IN MY OPINION

*EDIT*

HD7 is not 8gb/16gb NAND storage, its internal microsd :S

thank you truffle1234
[HD7 General] Riot147:
in short....yes. i spend roughly 9 to 12 hours a day testing and have been writing and testing since december. ive rev eng the code from the int storage just working on a way boot flash to bypass the zune software which is my biggest problem at this point...it wont be anywhere near perfect. probably barely usable if only for a few hours but it will be a start. looking for sometime in feb or march before i post.
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
friend on one hand u are saying HD7 is better on the other hand HTC could have improve the design, what improvements will u like to see in HD2 design???? and just to let you know the 8/16GB is not NAND its a micro SD card which is behind the back casing...
[HD7 General] oc_masta:
wow, you are correct...thank you for that... microsd inside the phone :eek: talk about cost cutting and easy product development for 8gb and 16gb models.

about the design thing i mentioned, i dont have a HD7 so was just saying i suspect there would be design improvements over the HD2, maybe its more solid and better looking in person. was just mentioning the points that would be better over the HD2, and no doubt that HD7 would have been overall improvement over HD2...except for the internal microsd card storage :mad:
[HD7 General] Dun3rider:
Hacking is as quick as writing a post

I dont see why so many people keep saying to buy and HTc Desire HD, it is a great phone and looks similiar to the HTC HD7. However for those that just said to get another phone arent helping. If I am going to pay $650 for a new phone (after taxes, screen protector, plastic cover) then I am damn sure I am getting the one I want, how i want it, and what OS im using. So for all you people who said to get another phone, NO! He is asking a question that I also want answered. I know duel booting is possible and the HTC HD7 does have a memory card for those of you who dont know so wouldnt it be possible to have andriod on an HD7, i think yes! Just like other great phones it takes some time to get the ball rolling and the phone has only been out for a little more than a month so give the devs time to figure it out and hopefully get Andriod on HD7:D​
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
so u are the kind of a guy who will like to buy a Merc and run with a BMW engin... cool now i know there are ppl like you in this world..
[HD7 General] MartyLK:
I hope so. The hardware is essentially the same as the HD2, but with software bottons instead of the HD2's hardware buttons. But Android phones, like the HTC Evo, for instance, use 4 software buttons on front, one at top for power and, of course, the volume buttons. The HD7 uses 3 software buttons on front, one hardware button on the right side for camera, one hardware button at top for power, as well as the volume buttons. So, for buttons, the HD7 has the full compliment actually needed. The three soft buttons could be assigned to the most used keys in Android...or, perhaps, could serve double duty with a long press activating a secondary function, like settings...and the side camera button could be assigned to something else...or keep it as camera.

My HD7 is sitting unused waiting for an Android ROM. I think it would make an excellent upgrade from the HD2. However, since the card slot is difficult to get at...not quickly accessible...an HD7 Android build would be better suited as a flashable ROM, rather than running Android from a card.

Lets hope the excellent devs here at XDA do get us HD7 users some Android love for our unused and under-utilized HD7s. Let us all continue to donate to the cause also.

EDIT - Actually, if you did away with the uneeded green phone button of the HD2, then assigned the power to the top button on the HD7, you are left with the same common Android buttons that are being used on the HD2. And the side camera button is a bonus!
[HD7 General] jan123456789012:
Goddamit I need dual boot with android a 32gb micro sd card and a void sticker :D (aw also 3900 mAh battery) NOw that would be a nice phone

EDIT : cmon ppl I wanted to try the new OS. It costed me much and was not worth it and I want to go to veteran OS thats all
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
slim phone with a fat battery (fatter then the phone itself...)... and if u want Veteran OS u have to go back to WINDOWS MOBILE and iOS will be after that...

and if worst case no one can load the Android on HD7, what will u do with your phone???
[HD7 General] MartyLK:
That isn't likely to be the case since the HD7 is essentially a refined HD2. The hardware is the same. The only thing needed is to use a ROM instead of using cards. It wouldn't take much effort at all to put Android on the HD7. The bootloader is already made for the HD2. Porting it to the HD7 in a given.
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
alright... do u know the android is not working fully on the HD2 still... all the best... but most of ppl like u will not be happy to have just android... u guys want duel boot.... but if u can load android on the HD7 ROM, it will be buggy and all.... single boot device, maybe u can tell me the fun in having a buggy device... why not buy a android device in the first place...

But there is no explanation for insanity anyway...
[HD7 General] Rouz.:
What is it that you really want on this thread?!

Android runs perfectly fine on HD2, even better than most of the native android phones out there. (Thanks to Cotulla, DFT, and all the others who worked hard for this)

If you don't want android on your phone, then just stay out of this thread, and live happily with your wp7.

I can assure you, no one will take wp7 away from you, so you don't really need to worry about others having buggy android on their hd7.
[HD7 General] MartyLK:
Eh...you should snag an HD2 and flash the latest Android ROMs. Perfection. They are quite outstanding. And there are Gingerbread ROMs too that work excellently. Android on the HD2 isn't the low-quality affair you might be thinking. Just because Android isn't native to the HD2 doesn't mean it couldn't be. All hardware starts out blank, and then choices are made about the desired software. What I mean is, there is no reason Android can't work perfectly fine in the HD2's circuits as it does in the Evo's or DesireHD's circuits. When HTC designed the hardware, they simply coded the bootloader and drivers for the added OS. The fact that an Android-based bootloader or drivers weren't coded for the HD2 does not mean they can't be coded. And they have been coded, by Dark Forces Team (DFT).

Android runs perfectly fine on the HD2 and will run even better on the HD7, thanks to the software buttons, which will be a perfect fit for the usual functions of Android.
[HD7 General] Weedy_Dude:
I tend to agree with Dun3rider and MartyLK.

It's always best to be able to hedge your bets, esp. when shelling out $600+ for a piece of hardware, any hardware. How annoyed would you be if you couldn't change OS's on your PC or Laptop on a whim. Same goes with a SmartPhone. After all isn't this called xda-DEVELOPERS.com, not xda-I'll-put-up-with-what-I'm-given.com ;)

Oh and as far as the Merc with a BMW engine reference goes - Hey if you blow the Merc engine up why not eh' :)
[HD7 General] J-Rooo:
Cant hack it?

I want to be able to dual boot droid on my hd7. From what I've gathered on this thread "No one can hack a hd7 to run droid properly."? Sounds like a lazy excuse. Someone can hack it and will. So you haters should either focus on hacking it, or save your breath. If anyone has an elegant solution please let me know. This forum should be solution oriented. I don't want to hear lame excuses why it can't or shouldn't be done. So i challenge everyone to come up with a solution.
[HD7 General] Dun3rider:
Yes I would put a chevy smallblock in a toyoto prius

I hate cars so stick to your little **** bmw's and mercedes. All I want to do is use the best phone (IN MY OPINION) HTC HD7, with the best software (AGAIN IN MY OPINION) Andriod. I like Windows mobile however I feel like their is more to do on andriod and it is a lot more fexible for the progams i use.
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
i wish you all the best...

Edit: and now i understand why u hate cars....
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
if you want it so bad why dont you put some money where you mouth is... u sound so much like mummys boy... just B#%@#$&@ about ppl... offer $500/- or $1000/- for a working solution to everyone who is working on Android Port for HD7 insted of running your mouth..
[HD7 General] Rouz.:
lets just stay on topic ... Riot147, do you have any news of your progress?
[HD7 General] jan123456789012:
Is someone rly working on this :eek: IM SO EXITED!!!
[HD7 General] jan123456789012:
Well I had a phone with windows mobile and it was quite nice cuz i could do whatever I want it and then there were many apps for these kinds of phones.The problem here is that there are many important issues in wp7 that need to be fixed (which i didnt know they existed at all) like zune, which does not support all countries it sells devices in. Another thing is the navi. I NEED NAVIGATION. I travel trough countries often and I need maps which cannot be provided. Bing maps are just awful. And even worse - no bluetooth transfer. :eek: So android may be the right choice for now... I dont care if it is a dual boot or normal boot or whatever. Android wins the battle! (still not the war) AWWW and btw you are right about the battery. It's horrible :D
[HD7 General] MartyLK:
I suppose one could use unlocking hacks to put the useful, needed features on the HD7. But that is more of a temporary solution than permanent. Android would be a permanent solution, one which MS could not disable or affect in any way. And it would send a clear signal to MS to wake up, when people begin effectively using their WP7 devices with alternative OSs. Plus it adds to the reign of Android because people with WP7 devices would be spending money on Android apps rather than WP7 apps.
[HD7 General] jdmsohc22:
lol @ all the android hate going on in here... android has proved it pwnz windows mobile in, out, up, and down... I can attest for the rest of us who made the switch as well, it's only time before WM is obsolete...
[HD7 General] truffle1234:
bro i try to use the nav on my TP2 and HD2 both slow, i got a dedicated GPS device and i was told by the some OEM manufacturer guys that phones will never be as fast as dedicate GPS devices as the battery pack is not big and its true, i know its good to have GPS on the phone but to me its slow...

HD7 battery suck on heavy use days i need to plug my phone by 3PM... but thats when my screen is high brightness, 2 push mails 3 chieck every 30 min, 3G on, location on.... i have changed the settings from time to time and with bare minimum i can last till 10PM..
[HD7 General] TheiPhoneKiller:
i think it may be possible but android need at least 4 hard/soft keys,it may mean remapping the software key,we would need some sort of bootloader,it would need a lot of hacking and time,Kernals would need doing,could take up to 6 months
[HD7 General] shayne the kid:
hope to see this working soon!
[HD7 General] crpntr:
buy a hd2 . it runs all 3 os' without problems and its cheaper .
[HD7 General] wallybarto:
i bought an HD7 today after dropping my HD2. sent the HD2 in for repair, and will be using HD7 in the meantime. I had ported WP7 to HD2 (also android NAND, and SD, all working very well btw) and liked the OS, i mean really liked it. but i also really liked the option to try out everything on the markets. if my friends had something they said i should try, or if i read about an app here or there i had no problem trying it. whatever the OS (except iOS, but whatever). these devices are very expensive getting the most value out of them is important, to me anyway. when i get my HD2 back that will be my main phone again. my girlfriend will get the HD7. if HD7 does get an android port, i would happily make some donations and switch.
[HD7 General] jan123456789012:
If you are so rich why dont you buy me an hd2. I already buyed the hd7 and I cant return it ...
[HD7 General] Armarn:
I own two devices HD2 and HD7, and I don't wont to stay on one platform, of course HD2 a great device, but I think Android on HD7 its a matter of time

Lets just wait.
[HD7 General] J-Rooo:
Found that you can change the SD card in the hd7. Check " the unwired dot net "

I cannot post links yet, too new to this forum.
[HD7 General] J-Rooo:
micro sd card

check " pocke hacks dot com " to see instructions on how to change the micro sd card to a 32 gb card. still too new to this forum to place a link
[HD7 General] vtikha:
There is already a thread about the HD7 and sd card. First one in HD7 general.
[HD7 General] jan123456789012:
It seems there will not be android on this phone... It's a pity its so expensive...
[HD7 General] Rouz.:
That is what everyone said about HD2 a year ago. We must be patient. (Although i hope it takes less than a year for HD7)

IMO, HD7 is a much better choice for running android compared to HD2, because of the soft-keys, better display and also the look & feel of the device.

To those of you saying that HD7 lacks enough number of keys; I wonder, aren't we using the same basic three keys for the android on HD2?

The extra keys on HD2 are only used for call functions (Call/End Call), and the main keys are still only 3 (the home, back, and settings button).

On HD7 we also have a dedicated camera button that HD2 doesnt.

More reasons to have android on HD7! (Again, Just IMO)
[HD7 General] coleone13:
+1

Well put.
[HD7 General] evolutionqy7:
i really cant imagine why Android on HD7 cant be possible. It uses identical hardware to the HD2 therefore most of the stuff would only be need to modded or adjusted to work with the different bootloader. Im pretty sure we will see it sooner or later. Right now ill enjoy WP7 and wait for the update
[HD7 General] eternalemb:
At this point the argument for dual booting Android to the HD7 is gone. Missing features are almost all here now: tethering, mass storage, file explorers, registry editors, customizable themes, copy and paste (soon) etc. Android is not necessary. Wouldn't wanna slow down such a marvelous piece of technology as my HD7 by running that trash anyhow. No benefit; it would just lag and miss the smoothness of WP7. HD7s deserve more than that =)
[HD7 General] Rouz.:
tethering, mass storage, file explorers and registry editors are not the reasons why i need android ... (and about the customizable themes on wp7 ... you probably mean custom plain colors)

but the reason why i need android the most is to use bluetooth file transfer, and turn-by-turn navigation

To those of you saying that i could buy an HTC DESIRE HD, I should say that i dont want to stick to android. I enjoy Windows Phone 7, and that is why i bought an HD7.

but I do need bluetooth file transfer and turn-by-turn navigation. There may be a garmin available sometime next year for wp7, but I'm quite certain that microsoft never mentioned anything about bluetooth file transfer.

I hope you guys understand that sometimes i need to share photos with my friends over bluetooth instead of MMS. and I hope you undestand as well that i cant buy an android phone just for using bluetooth file transfer!

I don't have the budget to buy multiple phones. a $700 phone was already so expensive for me. I bought a windows phone 7 device simply because i want WP7.

but i need android on it too (ATM), not to use it as a primary OS, but to use it to fulfill some of the missing features when i need them. (Which is not all the time, but it IS necessary every once in a while)

Thats why I would love to see devs working on it, and i will donate for sure if they do so. I seriously can't see why you guys are totally against it. If you don't want an alternative on your phone, just simply don't use it. There is no reason to discourage the devs.

Now if you guys say that its too much to ask for complete port of OS just to fulfill some of the missing features of WP7; you are probably right. but again, android has been already ported to HD2, and all it requires is some slight modifications to make it work on HD7 too.

Again, these are all IMO, and i could be wrong.
[HD7 General] hello00:
Actually, there are 5 keys on the bottom and there are only 3 on HD7. I ended up buying an HD2 (I can afford an HD7 right now) but since there will not be Android for the next upcoming years Ive decided to buy an HD2. You could find Hd7's on craiglist for $300-400 nowadays
[HD7 General] webvan:
Was planning to do that too but I've just found out that you need to activate Live services for the HD7 and that MS are now asking or proof of purchase on an HD7, were you able to get a code from them?
[HD7 General] naps1saps:
I got the code to activate WP7 on my HD2 last week and had no problem at all. Never even questioned me about it. All I said was I can't activate and I have an HD7.
[HD7 General] tonythetiger23:
HD7 on android coming soon if Dark forces can do it .

It happen soon it took while for people to run android on htc h2 about 4to 5

months i take it . So it can be done Go Dark Force. DF rulez HD7 soon to run android if Dark Forces developers can fine a way and i know they will find a way to run android on HD7. Gotta have faith:o
[HD7 General] zarathustrax:
I actually came across an ebay seller claiming to be selling a HD7 that includes software to run android from it... http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HD7-UNLOCKE...0507449646?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item20b6e5892e

I didn't think this was possible, so I came to this forum (I'm a HD2 user) to see for sure, and now I see this seller is full of it. This isn't the first time he sold a hd7 saying it can dual boot wp7 too.
[Epic 4G General] EricSchmidt:
I have here Froyo leak that you're all waiting, perhaps your programmers should learn posting files on public site is not safe.

sdx-downloads .com/devs/noobnl/froyo.dj29.zip

i rules say i cannot post links so add to the link to make work
[Epic 4G General] dannyniceboy:
Downloading now! thanks man i was getting tired of them ass hats having a power trip with this.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
m f sweet b a

downloading now too.
[Epic 4G General] Kingmac38:
root

Thanks for posting this but i am thinking no root as of yet for this ?
[Epic 4G General] thematrixkid17:
uh oh, now all hell breaks loose.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
no root but you can always go back to eclair with odin and reroot.

this is going to piss off people to no end!!!!!
[Epic 4G General] n0esc:
Save your time

Pretty sure this is either just a decoy or at least intentionally faked.

# begin build properties

# autogenerated by buildinfo.sh

ro.build.id=ECLAIR

ro.build.display.id=ECLAIR.DI18

ro.build.version.incremental=DI18

ro.build.version.sdk=7

ro.build.version.codename=REL

ro.build.version.release=noobnl_Andromeda_Galaxy_ROM_v1.1.over9001

ro.build.date=2010. 09. 18. (Åä) 11:46:28 KST

ro.build.date.utc=1284777988

ro.build.type=user

Taken from build.prop
[Epic 4G General] thematrixkid17:
Confirmed :(