yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant Android Development] offdutyninja808:
You can flash right over this. No big deal. Your nan wont get wiped if you flash this. Your contacts/apps will on the other hand. The easiest way for contacts is to just make sure you save them to your google account. Just re-add your google account after flashing and that takes care of your contacts.

As far as apps, I would just do a titanium backup. Then simply restore your apps after flashing.
[Vibrant Android Development] offdutyninja808:
Go to Eugene's Macnut page. He has some for you to chose from.
[Vibrant Android Development] Bronk93:
I get a FC when trying to delete a contact from address book
[Vibrant Android Development] Tynen:
TW is truly a flash whore's dream!
[Vibrant Android Development] Qverse:
logmein Rescue

Yea ..This is something I removed. Im not Comfortable with...

"LogMeIn's remote desktop access software (Rescue) by allowing an operator to access your phone and control it." I don't anyone on my phone controlling it. Im my own control freak ..LOL.. going, going...gone

Yo yea TeamWhiskey Thanks !

Oh come on eugene373 we love your ROM baking.
[Vibrant Android Development] Apexsilverevo:
Thank you for the quick help! What was the answer on my media (Songs,custome ringtones etc)? Thanks a ton again!!!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] offdutyninja808:
It will still be there. Flash away, my friend! Enjoy!
[Vibrant Android Development] Wuggs:
Christmas came early!
[Vibrant Android Development] subzerold:
I <3 You aswell...

Damn green where'd the blue go... oh well time to craft some new icons :)
[Vibrant Android Development] fred8785:
you never cease to amaze somb!!!!! Don't let the ungrateful people hold you down!!
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Holy crap awesomeness for the true believers!!

V5 custom vibrant
[Vibrant Android Development] ryangera:
Not releasing a rom until it is up to your standard is why I along with many others have always admired you Som. I will happily wait for your finished nero and thanks for your and your team's continued work.
[Vibrant Android Development] iynfynity:
guys what's the? modem in Nero?
[Vibrant Android Development] ryangera:
Jl1 build.
[Vibrant Android Development] MasterColdSoul:
I had post but my net failed... Redo.

It wasn't about stopping a flame war or they would have removed the post calling me out. Instead I am left looking like a ass because I get called out by a poster who I wasn't even replying to and then I have a post removed and marked trolling.

All I was doing was stating the following...

1. TW made the TW site, and forums

2. They indicated by their actions and words that donators would get early releases in the forums

3. This never happened V5 was released on XDA without going to either the TW download links nor the TW donator forum section.

4. TW (Viral) stated they were going to make the donator section mean something and we would get the next release in beta in the donator section before anyone else (honestly I could care less but this is what you guys / viral said)

5. A post stating V6 was coming in the next few days (Last Friday)

6. 4-5 days go by nothing happens with V6 then we hear some people in IRC got the V6 "alpha" while nothing is posted in the V6 thread which had been started 5-1/2 days previously.

7. Someone commented that this was wrong, etc.. etc..

8. Someone commented and I replied that I understood any donators having a "bad taste in their mouth" and I thought it was a "little lame" because of the previous issues which I outlined above.

9. Someone called me out saying "are you for real?" and saying a bunch of crap to be saying I was "*****ing" when I was only speaking my mind at how things had appeared to me and this post was removed for "trolling" yet the post "calling me out" is still there? If you want to stop a flame war don't you remove all posts not just one side?

Say it was trying to "stop a flame war" but I don't buy it. And your donators get screwed again by the way so looks like I was right about TW not sticking to it's word. Donators early beta... Not.. LOL... Suckers
[Vibrant Android Development] deeoh1084:
i like the little Gingerbread ish look of this nice~ can't wait till you guys finish this rom
[Vibrant Android Development] iynfynity:
I'm. so stupid. it was in the title and I didn't. saw it.
[Vibrant Android Development] BurningArmada:
Thank you som and team whiskey! Yay green!
[Vibrant Android Development] harpocrates:
Dude you take things way too seriously...

The point I am trying to make is a donation is a donation...it does not give you any right to demand our expect anything....but obviously you seem to forget that!!!

It seems to me donations should come with a release form for people such as yourself who just don't understand the meaning of it.

Most irrelevant statement ever "put your money where your mouth is" ....its a donation...do you need the definition or can you search for it by yourself?

I really try to restrain myself from responding to comments such as yours and people like you are the whole reason I stopped posting in forums years ago!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] ryangera:
Ji

How does anyone get screwed? We all have teams of devs working on helping our toys work better and teach us to be better at playing with them. They do this for free with the option of a donation. Who is getting screwed here?
[Vibrant Android Development] chugsterx:
I really appreciate all the hard work you guys put into making these...thanks. I donated some money to TW and never got a donator status...my email is chugsterx@hotmail.com...just thought maybe someone could help clear my confusion. I followed the directions and such. Just a bit confused.
[Vibrant Android Development] harpocrates:
Exactly my point....thank you HotShotAzn :)...
[Vibrant Android Development] Only Loki:
So is Nero the new name for obsidian or is it just what you are going to call your betas from now on or is it going to be a third Tom to choose from?
[Vibrant Android Development] MasterColdSoul:
Its not about the donation. Hell I doubled my donation after I decided to stop using TW roms.

To some its that while it was still a donation donators would get pre releases and betas. This has not happened repeatedly now. If they had not made their little site and give info saying one thing then doing another.

Even then I would keep donating and using their roms, but getting called a troll for defending a opinion and having my post removed was to much.
[Vibrant Android Development] qroche85:
Very well said.

And please stop flaming the devs, without them you/I would be stuck with stock 2.1/sucky leaked rom right now. Do what this thread is supposed to be done - report bugs and help TW make their rom better.
[Vibrant Android Development] Wuggs:
Home screens and app draw are smoother than any rom I've used, and I havent even loaded a lagfix. Feels a lot faster. New notification bar is very pretty.

Linpack score pre-lagfix: ~11.5

Linpack score post-lagfix: 13-14 (i thought l lagfixes didnt affect this score? weird.)

Quadrant score pre-lagfix: 942

Quadrant score post-lagfix: 1596

Has Media Hub, All Share, OCLF, Thinkfree Office, and Wifi pre-installed (as well as some other stuff) for anyone who is curious. The first time I tried to install the EXT tools through OCLF it failed, after a restart it worked fine.

Only complaint so far is the obnoxious loud T-mobile shut down sound when you turn the phone off, which I'm sure will get changed eventually.
[Vibrant Android Development] BurningArmada:
Come on people... Give peace a chance! We are getting great toys and tools for our phones from devs that do this in their spare time. Be thankful for these things. And if you felt you got shafted or screwed out of something, this is not the place to ***** and fight about it.

My .02 ... If something is classified as a donation, it should be free unless someone feels that they want to donate to the cause ontop of getting that product for free. A "donate or no deal" situation is nothing other than selling a product only to willing BUYERS... not a true donation. Please don't pea on my leg and tell me its raining :)
[Vibrant Android Development] lezouave:
Greetings xda-ers.

I have a grand total of 14 posts, 15 including this one, since I started following xda back in 2006. Of all the forums I frequent, which mostly have to do with my profession, musician, xda has given me the most bang for my buck by far. The added functionality to the devices I've had over the past four years would have cost a ton of money, and I have donated here and there.

The thing that was great until now, was the professionalism exhibited by the developers and the humility shown by the users, which had been the rule in the Windows Mobile 5 and 6 forums, and since 2008 in the G1 forums. Notably Cyanogen and company. Very businesslike, and everybody seemed to understand the extent to which they could complain, and posts were frequently thoughtful. Flames between devs was very rare.

I guess I just wanted to post to join those who call for a voice of reason and proportionality in rooting (no pun intended) for people to be cool about all this.

Thanks, I'll post again in a year or so whether I need to or not :p

Steve
[Vibrant Android Development] MasterColdSoul:
Hey I still think bionix is cool, but his team? No more from me grabbing a vision our z today. CM let's everyone download the alpha beta whatever. Laterz

Thanks again bionix.
[Vibrant Android Development] heero01:
keep it moving

hey why dont we just cut the donation talk if you want to do so if not dont but lets not make this about donations its a new rom lets just talk about it anything else stands to be pointless.

so how the battery life and dose anyone know if jk2 had better battery then jk6
[Vibrant Android Development] Jackdog89:
Hey trouble maker, what are you doing actually posting about the ROM for? No one wants to hear about this. :D

Seriously thanks for posting your findings. I've been trolling in here waiting for some feed back.
[Vibrant Android Development] sombionix:
This is the last post I'm going to post in regards to your comments, but I feel I must correct you because your statements are far from the truth. I believe you are just genuinely upset that your post was deleted, and for that, I apologize, again, it wasn't me that deleted it. However, we have and always have posted early releases and MANY unreleased kernels, themes, etc, in our donator section as promised. In fact, at this very moment, there are multiple downloads available in that section that have not been released publicly. This alone disproves your statement.

Also, v6 was not released to a so called 'select' group of people 5 1/2 days ago. The very first, and very uncompleted version of v6 was released yesterday morning around 4am mountain time to a handful of people that just happened to still be awake. Had anyone else been in the room, they would have also received it. That specific release was not put in the beta section because we just wanted to test a couple things before doing a major overhaul, which I personally worked on for over 10 hours yesterday and posted in the alpha/beta section this morning at 3:30am. The only reason I decided this morning to release the beta public on xda is because this thread started filling up with posts regarding development politics and propaganda, etc, etc, your post being part of the problem. I post publicly or I don't, either way I'm still getting an angry mob of people complaining.

If you can't understand or simply choose not to, I can appreciate that, but please move on and stop cluttering our thread with incorrect information.

If you're truly that upset that your post was deleted, get over it and realize that this happens in every forum, XDA included. Having been a moderator myself here, I can tell you that I used to edit/delete 100's of posts per day. Once again, I didn't delete your post, I don't know who did, and I don't know the reason behind it.

EDIT: I'd also like to say that as I developer, I myself donate to other developers for their hard work. Donations are and always will be optional, and most people donate mainly because of the work put into these roms, not for access to an alpha/beta section, we just provide that as a bonus to say thank you to our true supporters. Why the subject of donations has gotten so out of control on xda is beyond me. People seem to not have any problem at all going onto the market and spending $3-$5 for an application that a developer spent long hours on. Why is rom development any different? Difference being is that the roms always get released free of charge unlike an app.
[Vibrant Android Development] GTOJim:
Guess I will make a post regarding people being unhappy.

I would suggest everyone lighten up, relax, take a deep breath.

Som and TW are in a no win situation.

People who donate complain they should get first crack at the new rom.

People who don't donate cry foul if people who donate get and early release.

Please lets try and play nice and show appreciation for

the great roms the developers are providing.

Please don't chase them away with all the bickering.
[Vibrant Android Development] ferhanmm:
hows battery life?

lol jk
[Vibrant Android Development] compuguy1088:
Agreed, this is getting out of hand!
[Vibrant Android Development] Thareal1:
Does this Rom have the Samsung Email & IM? Specifically the email app? It's by far the best for handling exchange email.
[Vibrant Android Development] Wuggs:
GPS is working great for me.

In regards to battery life, the new looking battery indicator hasnt moved yet in the last hour. So if it uses 0% in an hour, I would go as far as to say I will never have to recharge again. I think the phone somehow picks up electrical fields from the earth and converts solar and kinetic energy to constantly recharge its battery.

Awesome ROM TW.
[Vibrant Android Development] Mr. Apocalypse:
Looks great som.... can't wait to flash... but one question.... if I flash this will the updates come in flashable zips or will they come as full ROMs?

Sent from my XDA app cuz I'm stalking your mom....
[Vibrant Android Development] Mookie_Jones:
am i the only person that cant get to www.teamwhiskey.com? is there a possible mirror of v6? i keep timing out when trying to get to the website.
[Vibrant Android Development] Wuggs:
It has an app called 'Email' but not one called 'IM' Im not sure how to tell if they are samsung or not.
[Vibrant Android Development] Thareal1:
:pIf it was samsung it'd say "Samsung Email" and have a blue S with a circle around it.

Thanks for checking though.
[Vibrant Android Development] sombionix:
I actually would like to respond to this because this has been brought up several times regarding the way CM team handles things. I'm not sure how long you've been in the android community, but their way of business wasn't always so back in the day. In fact, many of their downloads were exclusive, some never released. The reason they operate the way they do now is because they have millions of followers, unlike the 'small time' developers here. Why do you think they've completely abandoned xda? They have no use for it any more, they get more than enough traffic directly to their person site and forum. As for the money, I can assure you that the CM team as a whole made close to a million dollars last year in donations, possibly more. I know for a fact Kouche made over $300,000 from his one app last year (clock work recovery). These numbers are exactly why these developers are rarely if ever on xda any more. To say they don't operate any differently is ridiculous. Just some food for thought.
[Vibrant Android Development] BoomBoomPOW:
$300k!? *dies*
[Vibrant Android Development] jalyn02:
Team Whiskeys roms

Roms like this is why I will DONATE!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] mr2t32:
Nero is smooth. Can't wait for the finished product.
[Vibrant Android Development] allthrottle:
Great looking rom bionix, I hope to get some free time today to flash it and give you some feedback.

You and your team are awesome. Even though I'm not currently using a rom from you guys(on a stock jk2), I still appreciate the work put in. Your roms have been the most stable "stock-ish" feeling rom I've used. I've tried masters and they always give me the feeling I'm in some bizarre futuristic asian cartoon.
[Vibrant Android Development] Viralblack:
I snorted a little bit at the asian cartoon thing
[Vibrant Android Development] DroidDavi:
its sad that there has to be so much crying som and the team are great and to be honest 4.2 and beta 5 were monsters in there own right so there isnt like you didnt have a great rom to use they spend there free time making roms for use why most of you sit and cry if you dont want to wait for roms go buy a basic ass iphone and be happy
[Vibrant Android Development] joe.kerwin:
I'm confused. The OP has this gingerbread themed screenshots, its JL based, there's people talking about how great the JK6 modem is. But the baseband on a screenshot that a user uploaded says JK2? So what exactly are we getting?
[Vibrant Android Development] mr2t32:
you are getting a smooth rom based off on the new JL1.
[Vibrant Android Development] Kubernetes:
Aright, I wish people would stick to talking about the ROM rather than the politics and distribution of the ROM.

I was in the irc channel the night Viral decided to let people try the alpha. It didn't seem planned nor some attempt to screw donators. People were just pining for a taste and Viral indulged them (I didn't even bother since I'm not a flash addict, and certainly not for alpha builds).

Am I disappointed that TW took longer than originally stated? Sure, but I'm guessing there were good reasons for the delay (*ahem* JL1-drop).
[Vibrant Android Development] harpocrates:
Som, I was a cyanogen fan with the G1...your work for the vibrant has brought me over to team whiskey and im staying...i dont care if they finally released a CM 6.1 for the vibrant (from what I read not nearly as stable as your work and requires a lot more effort to flash)...considering they had a lot more to work with and a bigger team and it still took this long with no updates on their forum or main page... Im a team whiskey fan now. As long as you guys dont end up like them :P. Great work and I do wish you guys as a team to make as much as the CM team has...just stay the same person you are right now :)

P.S. please update us when you switch phone so I know what to upgrade to ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] DonutYankee:
Downloading Nero Beta right now. I'll flash it later today and try and find any bugs. Thanks for posting this, guys.
[Vibrant Android Development] Link3737:
I love the Gingerbread theme going on with this rom.
[Vibrant Android Development] harpocrates:
stay cool ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] harpocrates:
With all the politcal talk here ive lost track as well.

Back on topic :Is nero beta the obsidian v6 alpha that was released in IRC and then Som worked on for 10 hours to improve? If so I will be flashing tonight. Thats all I need to know.

Can we start a donation for TW as a swear jar...put a dollar in it each time you start a flame post or continue one? My tab is probably at about 3 dollars so far :P
[Vibrant Android Development] Kealiisr:
wow just read some posts and....

I think all you haters need to tighten your big boy panties and stfu, do you donate to a homeless dude who is looking for a handout and expect him to come back later and give you flowers? STFU! donate or not! Stop being *****es! Do you think because you donated you are owed something in return, people who do donate are just thankful we're not being charged but also appreciate the hard work any "TRUE DEV" puts out. If you dont like a certain Dev or their roms or their "people" then dont visit, troll, donate at their sites or on their forums... do everyone a favor and STFU! alot of you are internet thugs who talk big behind a computer/phone but are just ******* wearing an underwear!
[Vibrant Android Development] Henchmin:
Thank you Team Whiskey for this! I'm loving the look of Gingerbread.
[Vibrant Android Development] ugokind:
question

with this v6.. I have to setup a lagfix or no?

which one is better to reduce power comsumption?

.

ps for the master of the masters.. great!

is sad if any one is understanding the spirit of the 'giving freely' .. so I read in recent posts that some guys pretend to have immediately a solution.. and pretend to naming a rom as an imcomplete and not useful rom.

for me is different .. so think on linux.. what would be if thousand/million of students in 10 years of free work decided not to offer their brain because few of them still pretend to have without any kind of contribute?
[Vibrant Android Development] traderx2009:
Maybe a new thread for this release?

Wow! I am very impressed. Thanks for the effort.
[Vibrant Android Development] ilaf0106:
So for what does Rom bring to us and what kernel does it use?
[Vibrant Android Development] krylon360:
yes, Nero is Obsidian v6, it was renamed.

As far as people complaining who got what when.. who cares. As Som has stated, there are a number of things in the Donator section that are not public. The release Viral gave out was a Pre-Alpha...Alpha at most given the amount of changes that went in AFTER VB gave the initial link.

For certain people to say we as TW are screwing others over...hmm to me, you are starting to sound like KingKang.

You say you are done with TW? Good, leave. So v6 was delayed. It was delayed for good reason. I found the JL1 leak BEFORE IT WAS EVEN LEAKED. I had it decrypted and Chainfire posted it. As soon as I found it, I let VB and Som know, and as soon as the decrypt was posted, they checked to see if what they had already worked on could be easily ported over.

We as devs don't do this full time...well, maybe Som..lol, but I for one, have a Day job, and a wife and daughter, so I dont dev 24hrs a day. I do it when I can.

Did I ask for anything when I did the ULF port? Nope. Did it have dragons? Yep, due to 3e recovery being built into it. Is it still a great kernel? Yep. I still use it, even on Nero.

Dont sit there and say we are screwing people over by not giving then access to early releases.

Now go play Arm-Chair Quarterback on 4chan.
[Vibrant Android Development] Kealiisr:
+1 beat it *****es!
[Vibrant Android Development] Viralblack:
Baseband, Modem, and Kernel are JL1, the build.prop was discovered to be faulted after upload late last night and just wasnt fixed. Will be fixed for release.

Again, JL1 EVERYTHING :)
[Vibrant Android Development] shaolinf4:
Thank You

I'm not going to read through all of the nonsense of people complaining, being ungrateful etc.

I'm just here to say thank you and that your work is appreciated. This rom is definitely my favorite so far.
[Vibrant Android Development] Thareal1:
Viral or Som?

Quick question.....it's been discussed in the Macnut thread regarding exchange security settings and the ability to bypass entering a pin to unlock the screen. Macnut has a email client called "Samsung Email", as well as "Samsung IM", basically just Samsung's version of Email and IM. I've located the APK but can't install it because it's looking for a "Seven Service". I don't know whether it's written into Eugene's kernel or if it's based on the app, but it's extremely frustrating having to enter a Pin every time the screen locks.

Would it be possible to incorporate this into the update?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EFEOY06H

Here's a link to the app.
[Vibrant Android Development] crazy_kat_matt:
Flashed JI6.. everytime I enter a wifi connection then go back to 3g, data is zero..i have full bars of 3g but nothing work's..i have to do the *#2263# everytime and frankly the 3g is still weak..starting to get annoying
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
This rom is a piece of work guys I love it

Nero beta
[Vibrant Android Development] krylon360:
Try using the JK6/JL1 modem