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[Captivate Android Development] TheTodFather:
Dude if you looked at the OP there is no mention of how to use this with a COG ROM because it was designed for a i9000 yes you can make it work. WIth either of the two modems you mentioned. HOwever the help is already here we aren't here to hold your hand through ever problem specially when every dim wit comes in asking once again how to do this without even researching. IT gets old man...call it flaming ,,,i'll call it tough love! You shouldn't be flashing a damn kernel like this and not have a clue whats going on. Perhaps Gears should create a baby sitting thread for his children!
[Captivate Android Development] TheTodFather:
Nothing personal King ! Sorry if i sound like a douche bag but you see my point. This issue you had experienced was already mentioned Several times in this thread. Why don't you use the cog irc specially since your running cog!
[Captivate Android Development] fatttire:
We really need a sticky definition thread comparing modems / all things letter combinations.

JG8 - eclair i9000 modem

Etc etc. It'd save us a lot of noob questions. Can't blame the guy for not knowing
[Captivate Android Development] arffer:
Modems increase in major release by incrementing the alpha, and minor release by incrementing the numeric.

So, JI6 is more recent (and presumably better) than JI2.

And since I'm posting anyway, I'll repeat that if you want to work with I9000 kernels, you should switch to one of the many I9000 roms in this forum. If you want to stay with a Captivate based rom (Cog), that's great, but I suggest that only those of an experimental mindset, that don't expect stability or even usability, play with mixing the two.
[Captivate Android Development] arffer:
Well... this IS a dev forum, not the Q&A forum. I started as a noob, knowing nothing, and I honestly read every single post of every single thread that dealt with roms/kernels/modems before I started playing, and when I got stuck, I went back and read again to find my answers.

The reason I know the answers to at least a few of these questions is because I spent so much time reading here, I didn't expect to be handheld in a dev forum. I felt privileged just to have been allowed in to read. There is a great education to be had here by reading, not by using this forum as the Q&A forum.
[Captivate Android Development] keeng james:
Just saw this pose. Im sorry too. I chose this kernel for the overclocking and lag fixes. Ill switch roms if I run into any problems. Ive had a bad day, I might kill myself tomorrow, I didnt mean to take it out on you.
[Captivate Android Development] Kizzmiazz:
+1 said like a true gentleman. The stuff they run isn't made our phones either and have just as many problems as ours there just a holes plain and simple lol. I see at least one of those guys flaming in a lot more threads than just this one lol

Sent from my Cognition | [ROM]Cognition v2.3b3 | [KERNEL]SetiroN's SuperOptimized ReOriented v1.3.3 kernel with ULF OC/UV & HSUPA | [THEME]Darkness :: MMv2.2
[Captivate Android Development] arffer:
Which makes those of us that did take the time to read all those pages, and in the process get an education, just a tad miffed and frustrated.

I'm trying to help by posting answers, but if you think about it, you are taking the shortcut of having other people do all the invested reading, and then just answer your questions.
[Captivate Android Development] fatttire:
From what basis do you say this?
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
If you run a captivate modem you will have fc's sooner or later.

Currently on doc rom, 1.3.3 kernel, uv at 100 *4 75 on upper 2

swyped....and I apologize for not proofreading
[Captivate Android Development] Kizzmiazz:
And you shouldn't be trying to get a captivate running with i19000 stuff but , hmmmm, that's what we are all here to do. Every rom every hack every kernel here is made for us to try and get working on our phones.

Sent from my Cognition | [ROM]Cognition v2.3b3 | [KERNEL]SetiroN's SuperOptimized ReOriented v1.3.3 kernel with ULF OC/UV & HSUPA | [THEME]Darkness :: MMv2.2
[Captivate Android Development] fatttire:
+1 man. If we don't try stupid cr%p then progress isn't made.
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
Don't let it get to you too much kizz....maybe todfather will cheer up and share some popsicles.. ;)

swyped....and I apologize for not proofreading
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
I haven't run Cognition ROMS for about three weeks now, but I used to and I love DG's work, I used his stuff since SRE. I experimented with Tayutama's Froyo I9000 reoriented with Excaliburin's Reoriented Kernels and now this kernel and I have nothing against Cognition, but the I9000 reoriented builds have run smoother on my phone.

I believe that Mobile AP is in the ROM and kernel package from DG and this Kernel is not working out with the COG ROM, my guess is the order by which you flash seems to be very important. Do it in the wrong order or combination and some things get corrupted and you have to start over from stock eclair. I've had it happen enough myself. Also, sometimes you have a bad download and need to download a file a second time and then it works. I am not trying to be all knowing because I am certainly not, but I think that the advice that was given about the IRC Cognition chat would be more helpful to troubleshoot this because a lot of those guys are using Cog. You can pm me if you like and I will try to help. Someone else is using this successfully with Cog, so keep trying to get the correct combintation. I think these guys are more concerned with the stability of this kernel and oc/uv with the I9000 ROMS, don't take offense to that.
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
I actually had this running pretty much perfect with cog and though I like i9000 roms for variety, battery was better I think with dgs rom though it is too early on new kernel changes to say for sure

I just get bored too easily so I flash anything...even if I know it is not going to work.....heck I even loaded up bionix just to see what th big deal was over in vibrant forums

swyped....and I apologize for not proofreading
[Captivate Android Development] Kizzmiazz:
Force them to read by not responding to there questions. If someone helps them no harm done. But what do your post accomplish ? Like I said both parties irratate me. I hate reading there questions and your flaming there questions but at least they admit they are not very good at this yet.

Just don't answer them with any thing . At least that will cut the threads down a little lol

Sent from my Cognition | [ROM]Cognition v2.3b3 | [KERNEL]SetiroN's SuperOptimized ReOriented v1.3.3 kernel with ULF OC/UV & HSUPA | [THEME]Darkness :: MMv2.2
[Captivate Android Development] bobbylx:
Seriously? GFY. I'm no newb, and damn sure not new to flashing. I searched the thread for known issues and didn't see that problem. A simple, go to page xx would have worked just as well. How about this, in this thread search the word echo, no hits on my problem.
[Captivate Android Development] MikeyMike01:
The amount of people trying to use Cognition with this amazing. Square peg, round hole people.

Besides, even stock i9000 is better.

Sent from my Captivate
[Captivate Android Development] keeng james:
Thank you, you are the reason I use xda, helpful and polite. If we had rep points youd be in the thousands.

I didn't mean to start trouble, I just love cog and this kernel makes it even better. Im gonna fix the mobile AP problem and squash all this beef.

Sorry again to R2D2.
[Captivate Android Development] TheTodFather:
MMMmmmm why dont you put your hand down there and fish ya out tip... you like popscicles!
[Captivate Android Development] TheTodFather:
I appoligize to you too sorry for being such a douche mcgee. Usually i'm pretty cool i'll have to re program my circuits they shorted a bit huh? Sorry man...i'll go fark myself now...
[Captivate Android Development] Kizzmiazz:
Ahh I wanna group hug now ;)

Sent from my Cognition | [ROM]Cognition v2.3b3 | [KERNEL]SetiroN's SuperOptimized ReOriented v1.3.3 kernel with ULF OC/UV & HSUPA | [THEME]Darkness :: MMv2.2
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
Seem to recall you offering them up last time a mod had to clean up after a rant session

swyped....and I apologize for not proofreading
[Captivate Android Development] opcow:
I ran Cog ROMs for a wile. I tried some i9000 ROMs and, while faster, they always seemed not quite done. Modem problems, having to choose between correct screen orientation and button mapping or lagfix etc. caused me to go back to Cognition for a while. But the i9000 ROMs have really pulled ahead now, in my opinion. I'm not imprinted on my current ROM of choice and I'm sure I'll try future Cognition builds.

For people who love this kernel but have issues running Cognition with it, you might want to at least give a couple of i9000 ROM a look. You may be surprised. Whichever ROM you ultimately choose is fine. The silly people are the ones who get stuck on one thing refuse to look at anything else, even when the thing they are using isn't working.
[Captivate Android Development] arffer:
This kernel is posted as being I9000 based. Problems are to be expected when mixing with Captivate kernels. And the poster(s) stated they were noobs. Not a great mix, high levels of knowledge and self support is expected with this mix.

For the record, I am a big fan of DG'[s Cog, I was a fan back on SRE. I also tried Tat's I9000 rom, and then Shep's, and found that I, personally, prefer I9000 roms. I have nothing against Cog, think its a great great solution for those that prefer sticking with a Captivate rom.

But I also agree with the sentiment that the amount of dilution of these dev threads by handholding requests is a real problem. If you want to play in the sandbox, then invest the time to read, read, and read, and don't expect others to do it for you. If you don't have the time to get the education, then stay stock, or with simple, easy to use baked roms. Don't play with mixing up roms/kernels/modems if you can't invest the time to know what is going on. STick with complete solutions like Cog.
[Captivate Android Development] Haloruler64:
I just wanted to make a comment. I use Cognition and Cog only. This kernel is amazing and I've flashed every single update (3 in school, 2 during physics class actually, I'm hardcore like that). I love Cognition and am not a huge fan of the i9000 ROMs, but thats me personally. This kernel is also made for Captivate ROMs, the dev was even nice enough to fix a Captivate error with the scripts. Everything works flawlessly on v1.3.3 except 2 things; AC charging (haven't tried USB) doesnt always work immediately, sometimes it takes half a minute to kick in, but that's pretty ok with me. And this is only with the phone off. Also, as someone stated, Mobile AP doesn't work. Otherwise it runs amazing. I'm getting pretty damn good battery life without a full recalibration (what I am doing now), overclock runs amazing, undervolding everything -100 and running fully stable without one reboot or FC. Installing mods like TWGTG and apps and themes freely with no lag. This kernel is MADE for our phones and for Cognition IMO :P works too damn well. Also running JPP modem on Cog, sound quality is clear and 3G reception is generally good and speeds are great. I didn't flash back to stock to enable the 850 MHz band but it IS enabled in *#2263# (not sure what the hell that means but I won't flash to stock just for HSUPA :P). I just wanted to give a big thanks to the dev and say that people should definitely keep trying, because it DOES work. Even if it is a bit difficult sometimes.

Also, I LOVE BLN and I wish the buttons were brighter like the Vibrant. And yes I know you can do that by taking it apart and shaving the insides down (the lights are really bright underneath), but I won't risk an expensive phone like that.

EDIT: Also wired headset doesn't work, but whatever
[Captivate Android Development] bobbylx:
No worries man. I think of myself as somewhat experienced so I try to research and read before I flash. I didn't find this particular issue in the thread and maybe I was searching the wrong words. Just wanted to test this kernel out,so if you can point to a helpful thread I would appreciate it.
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
Halo,

Flashing the alternate modem is the only way I am aware of to actually enable 850mhz band....as long as you don't travel outside your 1900 area you will be fine. It has nothing to do with hsupa and using the dialer to enable 850 will have no effect regardless of what your phone says. Use dialer code *#0011# to see what you are connecting to.

swyped....and I apologize for not proofreading
[Captivate Android Development] sportedwood:
can you point me in the right direction for more information on this.
[Captivate Android Development] Haloruler64:
No problem! Here ya go http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=833663
[Captivate Android Development] MikeyMike01:
I'm so sorry.
[Captivate Android Development] Haloruler64:
I've tried other ROMs, I'm not huge on i9000 ROM's (tried a few), and AOSP sucks. Cognition is blazing fast and has every feature i need
[Captivate Android Development] arffer:
Mobile AP works flawlessly on my phone with this kernel:

* Tayutama's v1.0.3 Captivate SuperLite ROM

* JPP modem (850 & 1900 & HSUPA!)

* SetiroN's I9000 reoriented v1.3.3 kernel

* LAGFIX: All partitions are JFS
[Captivate Android Development] MikeyMike01:
Cognition is the second slowest ROM I've ever used (second to Stock, of course).

It's not even close, actually. It's slower with VooDoo, than any i9000 without any lag fix.

It's not DesignGear's fault at all. It's just that the Captivate ROM is that bad.
[Captivate Android Development] darkamikaze:
A lot of hate going on in this thread. A lot of opinionated hate as well.

though back to the original topic, how is everyone with 1.3.3? I'm currently on 1.3.2 and seems to be working great, with all the reports of 1.3.3 going fubar it seems wise to wait :O
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
I agree. I am still running 1.2 and it is stable. I want to upgrade to 1.2.1 but I don't want to end up with a factory reset and loose everything again. Is anyone running 1.2.1?
[Captivate Android Development] PowerPC:
I flashed to 1.3.3 this afternoon and tried to use till no power at all just now. Then I just AC power to charge with phone off. In 10 mins, I noticed that I no longer have the battery screen. Instead, I got kernel panic with some small red text on the screen. I'm going back to 1.2 for now.
[Captivate Android Development] Haloruler64:
But youre runing an i9000 ROM arent you? Tayutama?

I disagree, heavily. i9000 ROMs without lagfixes are still slow. And Cognition with ULF is insane
[Captivate Android Development] smokestack76:
In a effort to help some of the issues with COG. The best and safest way to use this kernel with it. Is to open his CW flash and remove his kernel and modem. Replace those with JPP and this kernel. Then flash it. It will solve alot of the issues the COG users are having.

Now on to finding a MOD for some cleanup in here........
[Captivate Android Development] MikeyMike01:
That would mean a zImage, and modem.bin file.
[Captivate Android Development] smokestack76:
Yeah my bad. Im sure i will need to do step by step or something to make it easier :rolleyes:. But something has to help. This was my last safe haven from all the n00bonics and bashing. But its a cluttered up mess now :eek:
[Captivate Android Development] lpsi2000:
So I was forced to read all of these BS posts because PPL can't get it in their heads:

1. This is Re-Oriented Kernel - Meaning it is based on the i9000 and meant for i9000 ROMs to work with the captivate phone. It may work on Captivate ROMs but you are almost certain to run into issues. The idea behind re-oriented kernels is give us captivate users more options with the i9000 leaked or custom ROMs. Remember we had all kind of issues when we tried to run i9000 kernels with i9000 ROMs and the captivate kernels gave even more issues with the i9000 ROMs.

2. Lot's of you running captivate ROMs are looking for a kernel that would provide the features that are within this kernel to work with your captivate ROM. Since there is no source for the captivate kernel, it will be difficult to find a captivate kernel with all of the options available in this kernel. (so stop b*tching, voodoo is available with some of the captivate kernels:p)

3. I9000 ROMs have their own sets of issues with our captivate even with this kernel. Nonetheless, most of the folks who are using this combination is or should be aware of that.

Now that we have established the reason for this type of kernel, let's layout some common sense rules.

A. If you are running a captivate ROM (like Cog) and you want reliability, then stay away from this kernel and i9000 Modems. If you decide to use this kernel and if you have issues, you might want to post most of them in the Cog thread or your ROM thread for support. However, I can tell you Cog was once released with a Re-Oriented kernel and due to the issues with this type of kernel the author decide not use Re-Oriented kernels.

B. I9000 ROMs are not designed for the captivate, we that in mind we go into this knowing it will not be 100% at least for now.:D So getting them to work is balance of ROM, Kernel, and Modem.

Now that I have provided you with enough information to help minimize the trashing of this thread, let's work on it and keep this thread clean with valuable information. If you need more information than I have provided then Read The F*cking Other Threads on this forum

Let's not get it twisted, I will start flaming PPL is this sh*t continues.:D
[Captivate Android Development] warri:
Speaking back on the charging subject... on 1.3.3 I awoke to a nice 100% battery Icon this morning, suggesting the phone rebooted while it was charging via USB (though it did charge)

just one clicked to JF6 to test AC Charging. And it works fine. Something still buggy with the kernel
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
Mine was connected to the USB during work and went overnight connected to the AC with no reboots though.
[Captivate Android Development] PuffinNugz:
1.3.3 here since released and zero charging issues ac or usb, on or off. I've not messed with uv, though.
[Captivate Android Development] arffer:
1.3.3: No crashes, no lockups, no charging problems, Mobile AP works, BT works, HSUPA works, 850 works. Day 3 I think...
[Captivate Android Development] arffer:
That is correct, Tat 1.0.3 superlite
[Captivate Android Development] TheTodFather:
:D good morning > Does anyone have any UV settings they would like to share? Want to know everyones se3tttings
[Captivate Android Development] Stephenv1971:
Me too, but I experienced charging issues, reboot while on phone through bluetooth, black screen of death, and slower web browsing on 1.3.3. On 1.3.2 charging issues and screen lockups. Both -oc and-uv. Moved to 1.2 and have no issues -uv +oc.

Also: I stole your signature since we are on the same config.
[Captivate Android Development] Stephenv1971:
All 0's for now until I can see stability with default.
[Captivate Android Development] arffer:
Battery life on 1.3.3

Just noticed, running kernel 1.3.3 with JPP modem and Tat superlite 1.0.3, at idle my battery only dropped 2% over a 7.5 hour period.

UV: -50, -50, -75, -100, -125, -125 (1200 through 100)

Since the only thing running during that time period was the cell radio and OS, I've got to say that I'm very pleased with this combination. The modem wasn't burning up battery searching for better signal (I'm in a 2-3 bar area), and the kernel shows no signs of useless battery usage.
[Captivate Android Development] arffer:
Then you'll need to update it <grin> as I just added my UV settings to it.
[Captivate Android Development] l7777:
Let me preface by saying that Cog 2.1.7 with unhelpful's captivate kernel was my 2.1 OS of choice. Both were built from captivate source code and both work very well together.

Now let me elaborate on the problem that most of the cognition users are overlooking. Even with 2.1, running an i9000 based kernel and modem with a Captivate based ROM caused problems. They may have been minor and some could live with that, but there were problems. Bluetooth quality is #1 in my mind as it was a dealbreaker for me so I never used the 2.1 reorient kernel. If you go back to Xcaliberinhand's original kernel thread which this is based on, he built it to allow us to run ROMs from the i9000 source on our captivate hardware. He made no reference to it working for ROMs with a captivate source and even in his thread there are numerous reports of it not working 100% with cognition. When running this kernel, you absolutely 100% must use an i9000 modem. If you use the captivate based modems you will run into failures at some point. This has been noted in Xcaliberinhand's thread as well as this one. The same is true if you run a 2.1 modem with this kernel. If you want further proof that mixing bits from an i9000 and captivate build isn't a good idea, just go back to the very early threads of trying to run i9000 2.1 ROMs on a captivate with a captivate kernel. Even that didn't work really well. Finally enter Xcaliberinhand and his i9000 reorient kernel.

This is why a lot of responses tell cog users to switch to an i9000 based ROM if they wan to use this, or Xcaliber's kernel. If you don't believe us, ask DG what he recommends. I'm betting you get the same answer.

Running an i9000 kernel and modem with a captivate based ROM is like trying to run OS X on non-Apple hardware. Sure it can be done, but not without problems. If you want a 100% smooth running system, stick with a complete i9000 build or a complete captivate build. The physical hardware it runs on doesn't matter as much.

Now for some OT info. I can confirm some charging fruitiness. I charged my phone with the AC adapter while powered off last night as a test. This morning, i clicked the volume button to see if it was still responsive and it came on showing me a 100% full battery. Only odd thing is that after I unplugged it from the charger, the battery indicator stayed on and required a battery pull to do anything else. I immediately tried to reproduce the issue by plugging it back in after the battery pull but the problem did not come back. I'll try it again tonight to see if there is any pattern. So far no other issues.
[Captivate Android Development] ferris2375:
Just curious why the suggested settings for the lag fix changed....
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
I think they changed after he added the new 'tweaks' for the ext4 but I am curious too.

I am running ext 4 now just in case lol

BTW, is my new banner decent? I suck at making those :-)
[Captivate Android Development] momulah:
I am going to try darky's 4.1 voodoo version on my cappy and use this kernel. Which 1.3.3 version should I download to install via clockwork?
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
Sweet...mission accomplished then! :D

On another note...can someone please explain to me how to "enable" the voodoo color fix thingy? I have tried 100% and 75% and I do not notice a difference in color temperature and I am used to seeing that with my projector when calibrating.

Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] anosis:
+1. Had the same experience with 1.3.3 this morning.

Yesterday with 1.3.2 it rebooted as soon as I plugged it into my car charger, cannot confirm yet if that has been resolved with 1.3.3.
[Captivate Android Development] takerfan:
Color temperature and the more powerful brightness control isn't included.

Just the sharpness and video player color optimization is.
[Captivate Android Development] ferris2375:
How does one adjust sharpness? Is there an app for that? :)
[Captivate Android Development] shaolin95:
Do I have to use a specific video player for this to work then?
[Captivate Android Development] takerfan:
There's no official app by curcio where one can mess with the sharpness settings in his voodoo kernel.
[Captivate Android Development] takerfan:
I know it works in the stock samsung video player but I don't know if it's universal across other players.