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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Mikenif:
Ive got a few mates who bought or are planning to buy a hd2 simply because it allows the dualboot.

I dont think HTC should be complaining as XDA has made their devices much more interesting then most others.

I even think that without XDA or any chefs HTC would see their sells go down fast
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] clio94:
I think that quietly they helped us to run android on hd2.They give the kernel sources of desire and other android phones,so the developers of porting android to hd2 can take some code from there and port it to hd2

Also they give us the new 3.14 rom with radio 2.15.50 who gives us the ability to run android without the need of hspl and losing the warranty.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dunkelfalke:
That is not because HTC is somehow beneficial, they have to release the kernel sources or else their license to distribute their modified kernel (by selling phones in this case) is void.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Mafioso:
True, they may be losing some sales because of android port on HD2. Many people with HD2 may have had shifted to Android phones including myself...but since Android is running on HD2 and its running fine...I've decided to postpone an upgrade...

But I think HTC has gained from XDA then it lost...if it weren't for XDA, HTC wouldn't have been the company we all know it...things are different now because HTC has now become popular but initially in WM days people bought HTC phones because of great XDA support otherwise it may just ended up like an ordinary Taiwanese manufacturer like ASUS, etc in phone market...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hd2k10:
That's the exact reason I bought the HD2. I was going to get an iPhone otherwise. HD2 > iPhone in every aspect except for Android (which was my deciding deal, I found out you could dual boot)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] montraydavis:
While I agree with a lot of the aspects of both winning and losing, in the end, HTC wins. Some of you say that they are losing be side of an upgrade, if you think about it, they still win. Why?

Let's say the HD2 costs $200(not sure...) if people were to buy 2 or 3 times as many HD2 devices, that beats an silly update which costs only $200?...They look at it in a BUSINESS perspective. And the numbers prove the best move.

In addition to, Google is much happier, that there OS is going to more devices. The small OS fee for factory devices hurts none. In the end, more people by from the Market. Even if it does hurt them, the publicity is well worth it, and will prove them good in the end. Besides, XDA has helped HTC, so I would be disappointed to see HTC block what XDA's main source comes from..... Everyone is happy, unless Microsoft were to complain, but even then, HTC could easily support Android instead, which I believe they will do eventually.

And in another addition to, I'm sure many people have multiple HD2 one Android, one Windows Mobile, or even both Android. You can't beat that.... HD2 is quite distinct. They may even support the movement, and design a newer HD2 that will be (secretly) compatible with both OS, as the devices we are using now work very well with both.

I think it has done more good than bad, so what's there to concern HTC. (:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aussiebum:
HTC aren't Apple - they aren't megalomaniacs. From their perspective, all this hacking and modding is just free marketing, brand awareness and of course brand loyalty, as a result of HTC devices being known to be flexible, you are more likely to pick up another HTC than say, Samsung.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jonny68:
I'll go one further and say i reckon that there is a chef on here or maybe more than one who are employed by HTC but obviously this isn't public knowledge and they could lose their jobs if found out,it's well possible.

If HTC were really that bothered being a global company they could have instigated some type of legal action against this website allowing people to hack their product, im not sure exactly what but realistically they could prevent this from happening if they were really bothered.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jonny68:
yes id agree with this.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mo976:
only HTC

When I was first looking at widows phones and I saw XDA and the work being done I was sold I started with the T-mo MVA then the S620 (t-mo Dash)-the TyTN- which i replaced with a tp2 which i Just sold. I still have my HD and HD2 for dual boot but I'm at the crossroad should I just get android like the MyTouch 4g or the desire HD??? Point is only because of the amazing and innovative work here at XDA did I try out and stay with windows other wise I would have ended up with 'shudder" the Icrap or crackberry...

My guess is that for corporate reasons they have to advise against it and can not support the work openly but I'm sure that they enjoy and are happy to have the free publicity and the building of brand loyalty as well as the development work and seeing how HTC Sense can be developed and customized by people like Cookie and Max for them for free, is an added bonus.

As for phone sales lets be honest despite 3 or even 2 year contracts the average reliability of most phones is about 18-24 months sometimes less and the handset makers know that and base there future sales on that not on the rarer cases of people who were going to buy a new phone after 9-12 months but kept it because of duel boot.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hitekredneck:
Personally, I think it is a win, win situation for HTC and Google for this device to have the dual boot ability. I am on AT&T, have an unlocked HD2 that runs Windows Mobile as well as 4 different builds of Android. I don't think you can get much more versatile than that. Personally, I am not worried about, nor in any hurry for NAND boot capabilities for Android on the HD2, that would just cause a new set of headaches in the early stages. Not to say that I won't give it a shot after it has been publicly released for quite a while, but as I stated above, I am in no hurry at all.

I traded one of my HTC Touch Pro 2's for this carrier unlocked T-Mo HD2 a couple of months ago and it had nothing but problems as it still had the stock ROM on it. I did the Hard SPL, flashed it with a custom ROM and the rest is history. This thing is a tremendous device, even if I do not get 3G speeds on the AT&T network. There is no 3G service in my area anyway so I don't think I am missing out on much at all.

XDA Devs - Don't stop what you are doing as far as Android on HD2 development. HTC could learn a few things from you folks!

HTC - Keep up the great work and keep on releasing these great devices!

GooG - Same thing, keep those fresh Androind builds coming!

AT&T - Get a clue as to what your customers want and quit bottling Steve Jobs crack sweat (iPhone) and shoving it under your customers noses! And if you are going to claim the biggest 3G network, actually create and maintain that network to make the statement true!

My .02 ..... HTR
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] uberamd:
The only reason I got an HD2 is for the Android experience and the potential to run WP7 on it. Win Mo 6.5 sucks (in my opinion) but I am still rocking an HD2 because of what it can do, and because the hardware is awesome.

I think HTC as a company would be happy that enough people like their hardware that they are willing to buy the HD2 just to run a (less than stable) version of Android off an SD card. Tthe HD2 hardware is amazing, and HTC is more in the hardware business than anything.

Think of it this way, its like buying a Dell computer with Windows 7 and installing Ubuntu on it. Does Dell care? Nope, they sold the hardware so they're happy.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] agentaaron:
I dont think that they lose as much business as one might think.

I was at my local T-Mobile store yesterday morning to pick up the MyTouch 4G...I love HTC devices because of what devs here at XDA do for them and have owned quite a few (MDA, Dash, Wing, TP2, G1, MT3G, Nexus One, HD2...and now MyTouch 4G) I still show all of my phones affection and still cruise the different sub forums here and keep my phones updated on the newest builds, but HTC hasn't (and never will) lose me as a customer.

Sure, there are some people who will buy phones from places like craigslist or ebay, and HTC does not see any monitary profit from transactions like this...but I am sure that they win a future customer when that same person walks into their carriers store with an upgrade available and sees a new HTC device...Especially those who find their way to forums such as XDA. No device will last forever and will need to be upgraded eventually...and I feel that HTC has built a great name for itself.
[Android Apps and Games] kroogar:
Hi guys

Does ne1 know of an app that'll take me to my home screen when I press the power button? Sometimes when I turn off my screen I'm reading an email or something. And then when I switch on my phone again I'm shown the screen/app I was in when I turned it off.

I like my phone to always (automatically) show my my home screen when I turn on the screen - can this be done?

./kroogar
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] thatdudebutch:
Sweet thanks for the share!!!!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Computergeek737:
Awesome :) will flash as soon as the backup finishes! Nice job!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] emarx429:
Thanx dude! This is an awesome theme! Can't complain at all... took a minute to get used to the signal strength meter but i really like it!

SCH-I500 using XDA App
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] frostman89:
I would like credit for the nextheme airplane icon I made. I kid ;)

It's a very nice theme, great to see more options.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Concider it done. I had pieces from everywhere and lost the sources. Thanks for the airplane mode images!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Computergeek737:
Theme is working great and looks fantastic, only thing I have noticed so far is in the attached image. The Market Apps, Games, and Verizon is a little hard to read. Obviously not a big deal, just a a note for consideration in your next revision :)

Awesome Theme :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] cckeeler:
Do we just flash this via clockwork?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Yes you do :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
I agree, I have been attempting to find the xml(s) that affect the font color.

If you or any other can point me in the right direction that would be awesome, have spent days searching xda/google and combing through the xmls in the vending apk without success so far (obviously).
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Zacking:
Looks awesome, nice work! Can I flash this over any rom?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
As far as I know you should be able to, however I cannot guarantee since I have not tested on any rom.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Computergeek737:
I found this thread on droidforums.net showing an updated vending apk with white letters for the buttons. (h t t p://w w w.droidforums.net/forum/droid-concepts/70351-issues-theming-vending-apk.html)

post #26 says the following...

"The buttons in the app pull from your framework. The buttons you see in the pic are from my theme."

Whether this will help or not I have no idea, personally i have no experience with editing xml's or themes at all... If you want anything tested just let me know.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Thanks, I will look into the framework xml's and see if I can find the right one. Right now tracking down my FC issue when releasing a call.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] djbaseball21:
I installed this theme and now cannot sync my gmail account. Any ideas?

Edit: NVM, I just went through youtube as mentioned by another post on here. Great theme!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Happy you got gmail working... and thanks.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] djbaseball21:
I just had a quick question. Extremely new to rooting so bare with me here...

Before I flashed this theme, i had the Remix Incognito theme posted under the theme section for the fascinate. I had that theme installed, and just flashed the Storm Blackish theme over the old one. Everything seemed to work great, except the "preferences" and "notifications" icon in the home screen menu didnt change and they are just grey. Also, the font from the old theme did not change to the font of the Storm Blackish theme. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] phoenx06:
How did you get the Samsung Widgets to appear in Launcher Pro?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Thanks for trying my theme. The "preferences" and "notifications" are controlled by LauncherPro and not by the framework. I used ninjamorph (available in market to replace those :) I'll attach them so you can to :) The are named appropriately for easy exchanging.

The fonts used are the same as what the fascinate ships with, I didn't change them, so the remix must have.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
I didn't actually, it's a side effect of using the AppWidgetPicker apk, and not all of the touchwiz widgets show up, only the ones you see in the widget menu.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Minor update uploaded for your flashing pleasure. Updates posted in OP.

If anyone knows what xml's or other files need to be updated to make the phone dial-pad sounds change. It would be very much appreciated. I have already changed out the sounds in "system/media/audio/ui" and still have the same sounds when dialing a number.

Oh and also I still haven't tracked down what xml or other files need to be modified to change the text color in the market category buttons. I have no idea how to modify jar files which is what I suspect I will need to do for some of the changes I want to make. If anyone knows how or can point me to a editing jar files for dummies, I would appreciate it :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Dhuss:
What is the widget that is putting out your signal strength on the home screen?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] djbaseball21:
Oh ok, great. Thank you!!! Anywhere I can donate for this theme? It is the best I have seen so far.

Also, do you know how I can get the fascinate stock text on my device?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Its the "Signal Strength Widget" by BitMod Dev available in the market.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
As soon as I figure out how to add a donate option from paypal, you can donate :) And thank you!

As far as the stock messaging app goes, depends on what ROM you may have loaded and if it was de-bloated.

You could pull it from one of these ROM's - here or here and push to system/app.

If you de-bloated using Titanium then simply unfreeze the messaging app and it will be back, however not sure if it will show as a widget to select. I use handcent myself.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] chopper the dog:
Flash stock zip from this thread then flash storms again.

good day.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Added new screenshot of lock screen and added donate option for those that feel the need. I do appreciate whatever you may donate.

New updates in the works, I will be attempting to add the (MOD) Add Reboot Option to Power Menu to theme.

How much interest in adding the [MOD] Extended Soft Key Backlight?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] djbaseball21:
I actually tried that already, and it stayed with the same font from the Inconginto theme.

Edit: Nevermind, I got it. The back to stock version I used a few days ago was the 1st version. I just saw the second version was posted on there now and that worked. Thanks!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Awesome, glad you were able to resolve the font issue!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] ogxku5h:
Love this theme. Favorite so far! One suggestion is to maybe theme the gmail app menu? Only settings is themed but other wise no complaints!
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Thanks :) and actually working on theming gmail and email menu's as well as updating some images already themed, Of course right now working on getting accurate battery mod to work with the power options mod.

Love your signature :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] ogxku5h:
Gotta give a shout out to the man behind this brilliant theme! Keep it up my man.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Mikem74:
Great Theme

I'm new to rooting and roms and themes. This is a great theme. I especially like that like widgets are grouped together in the add widget section. The font in the Market heading is somewhat hard to read but otherwise wonderful theme!! Keep up the great work... looking forward to updates on this theme. :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Thanks :) and still trying to figure out how to get the changes to compile and work without freezing at the bootscreen.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] ogxku5h:
So can i just install this while i have the older version running? then once installed, can i delete the older theme from sd card?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Yes you should be able to flash over the top. Let me now if anything goes wrong.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] bL33d:
Love this theme looks awesome only thing that bugs me is the signal circle is there away to change it to bars?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
I'll make a metamorph so you can change it, plain white or colored bars?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Mikem74:
Color would be awesome. I downloaded metamorph but am not sure how to use it? Any help would be appreciated...

Sent on SGS Fascinate (jt superclean rom, non-voodoo kernel, storm blackish theme) using Tapatalk
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] bL33d:
thanks the matching blue color of battery
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Added link to the metamorph tutorial at the end of OP.

Done, attached to OP, hope it works for you, let me if not.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] bL33d:
Mm just hangs might be because I'm on stock deodexed. Thanks though.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Not sure why its hanging for you. I tested on my system and works good, although it was a but small at first so fixed and uploaded a new version. Screenshot of it in action (before I change back)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] bL33d:
i like that. no chance of a update.zip :o

Also can u implement this animation>?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=831485

FYI i donated u a case of soda since im pestering you ;)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] ogxku5h:
On my home page, my notification and preferences buttons seem to stay stock LP grey... Any reason why it hadn't changed?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
as far as the notification yes, haven't located the image that controls that, nit sure what you mean by preferences button. can you share a screenshot of what your talking about? Also have to get xml edits to stick when changing text color before changing menu backgrounds to dark/black. Example is the market buttons.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] ogxku5h:
When u press the menu button on your home page, it pops up at the bottom like wallpapers, notifications, settings etc etc. I see in your screen shots all the buttons are animated, but in mine preferences and notifications are not.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Animated no, however colorized yes, there may be two (notifications and preferences) that are the default gray in your screen because they are controlled by launcher pro (or any other launcher). I will attach the modified launcher pro, you'll have to uninstall launcher pro and install the themed one. make sure you have an active launcher if you do this.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] ogxku5h:
Thanks a lot man.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Anytime. Glad I could help.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] deaffob:
I noticed that there is this option in the shutdown menu, Download. What is it? I tried it and it just reboots into that mode and just stays there. I pulled battery out to restart my phone. It didn't do anything...
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Actually it did work, its supposed to put your phone in download mode. If you have had to use Odin to restore you would know what download mode is for. Kinda like flashboot on other phones.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Mikem74:
Metamorph

When I applied the metamorph to give the colored signal strength, I lost my options on the power button to boot into download, recovery, etc.... any ideas?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Shouldn't have had any effect on that. I tested on my system without a problem. I'll check the MM, you could try reflashing the theme and then the MM again.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] ogxku5h:
It keeps saying application not installed... I don't know why man
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Most likely is that launcherpro has to be uninstalled first, it will not install over the top of it self. At least thats what I get if I forgot to uninstall an application while its still installed.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] ogxku5h:
No I uninstalled it. Still wont work
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Sorry to hear that, I would restore the backup you made before flashing my theme, uninstall launcherpro and install the themed one in OP, then re-flash my theme. It should work then.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Protonus:
Awesome work. I was debating which theme to load for my first one (wasn't too happy with some of the initial offerings and decided to wait until more came out) and this one is largely, exactly what I wanted! I like the extra features baked in a LOT (reboot in power and widget picker were worth the price of admission).

Do you have the LauncherPro theme available to load into it separate?

The one thing I'd like to see is transparency of pop up's like the USB notification and force close, etc. Like a smoked Glass look. Or, perhaps the "carbon" looking transparency of the main notification pull down, that would be sweet too.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
I am very excited you like this theme, it is my first one. the LauncherPro I use is attached to OP with the menu icons themed to give the main menu that fully themed feel :)

I really love the idea of the semi-transparent carbon idea for the popups, I will look into implementing that as soon as I get my head wrapped around making xml color changes work without FCing on me. Stay tuned for more :)
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] swerve12:
Absolutly amazing theme for sure the best one iv seen THANKS I do have one question and sorry if it has been asked already i tried to look through most posts but on the main menu screen shot where you have contacts names with the mirror effect how is that done?

thanks again
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
LOL - its all good and has not been asked in this thread. That is a custom image I used along with desktop visualizer (from the market).
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Mikem74:
Lag

Anyone getting any lag after applying this theme? I can't tell if it's one of the apps I have installed or the theme......
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
I personally haven't experienced it. Let me know if you find something in the theme that is causing you lag. And apps installed after applying the theme?
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] swerve12:
gotcha coool
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Sublym1:
I wanted to thank you for a great looking theme! I've been browsing all the themes available on here and found that yours goes perfect with the color scheme that I have now.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
I am glad you like it.

I am working on an update but is taking time due to XML edits and creating custom images.
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] Mikem74:
I think the lag is from some app.... I reflashed your theme with only apps included in the jt rom and no lag.... now just have to figure out which of my 100+ apps is causing my lag... lots of fun ....

again... great theme
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] goldenstorm:
Good to hear its not the theme, however sad it'd an unknown apparently and you have to go through that mess. Glad you like the theme.