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[Fascinate Android Development] Flipsoul:
You should be able to grab them from a system dump.

The fascinate stock apps that are not included in frosty's zip were never odexed in the first place.

The way frosty's zip to deodex works is by removing the odex files, and replacing the corresponding apk with the deodexed versions.
[Fascinate Android Development] ellisz:
Can you just take the apk from the dump and install it? I need thinkfree back as well. Does this work or do you have to get the apk and odex file from the dump and paste into the system/app folder?

I remember having a deodexed rom on my D1 and installing apps from the market with no problems. Can I just add the apk to my sdcard and install?

Thanks
[Fascinate Android Development] Flipsoul:
I would just copy them to system/app

I do not know if any of them are actually installable if you just run, them on your phone.

If it doesn't have an odex in the system dump, it probably doesn't need one.
[Fascinate Android Development] jatilq:
I like the file manager "my files" that comes with the stock rom. I might get heat for this, but its nice to have that already installed and or a zip to install via clockwork for other roms.
[Fascinate Android Development] ellisz:
Thanks. I did not notice an odex so I moved it to system/app and rebooted. Works great. Thanks!
[Off-topic] rorytmeadows:
...and I voted for this guy for New York State Governor...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0
[EVO 4G Accessories] wmblalock:
I'm looking for an evo case that is soft inside then hard on the outside but still not bulky at all. Anyone know how bulky the otter commuter case is? That seems perfect but pricey.. anyone seen one like that but cheaper???
[EVO 4G Accessories] MEGADEAD:
i just got the commuter case today. I also have the HTC Silicone, and the otter box is thinner. The otterbox feels very solid and I think it was well worth the money.
[EVO 4G Accessories] cfrock:
I bought one of these and have been using it for about 3 months now. I am very happy happy with it.

http://www.case-mate.com/HTC-EVO-4G-Cases/Case-Mate-HTC-EVO-4G-Tough-Cases.asp
[EVO 4G Accessories] ElAguila:
I ordered one of the feather cases from Incipio. It should be here in a couple of days and I will let you know how it is.
[EVO 4G Accessories] dmoney23:
Can you send a link for that case..i can't find it on there site
[EVO 4G Accessories] ElAguila:
Here it iis:

http://www.myincipio.com/smartphone-cases/htc-evo-cases/
[EVO 4G Accessories] wmblalock:
Well, I went ahead and ordered the Seidio Innocase Active for $22.98 shipped

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220673169735

I liked the Otter box commuter but looking at it, it doesn't look like the hard outter shell covers the bottom two corners of the phone.. which is where drop damage usually happens. The Seidio does. The case-mate tough case looked really nice, but it was $30 shipped and didn't seem to be any better than the Seidio. The Feather case doesn't seem to really have much drop protection, it looks mainly like it for keeping the phone pretty. Once the case is here, I'll let you guys know what I think! Thanks guys!
[EVO 4G Accessories] ElAguila:
I just found out the incipio is not a 2 part case.
[EVO 4G Accessories] firemedic1343:
Problem many people are having...including my wife and I, is that the Seidio Rugged corners will chip off, I've never dropped my phone but somehow those corners ended up popping off. I could understand with my Evo, I'd have to pull the battery a lot in the beginning and the case would have to come on and off...but my wife's Evo has never needed a battery pull and has never fallen.

That being said, many people have no problems with their Seidio Rugged and Active...I hope you enjoy yours.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Norwester:
My Rugged's exoskeleton broke after a few months of use. The corner as the previous poster mentioned. My Limited Active Edition is still fine though after much more use than the Rugged.
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MusicMan374:
So here is my issue.

About a week or two ago, my friend accidentally spilled water on his slide in his sleep, and when he woke up around 5 hours later, the phone was still on, but it was soaked in water. He immediately turned it off and took the battery out and let it sit in rice for more than a day. The phone wouldn't work, so he got a vibrant off of craigslist, however, on thursday he threw the battery back in it for the hell of it, and it booted up. At first, certain things didn't work, like the microSD card slot and the volume keys, but it regained most functionality, so he gave the phone to me, since he already had a vibrant.

He used to get 20 hours at least on the slide, clocked to 844/844 and 245/245 with screen off. He used the phone for internet much more than I do at the moment, with 3g and HSPA. I have the phone clocked to 600/844, and 245/245 when the screen is off, limited to 2g networks, wifi only on occasionally, and I can barely squeeze 10 hours out of the battery. I unplug it at around 6:45 every morning and by around 5-7 PM, the phone is below 15% battery level.

The entire phone is fully functional now, except for the camera, running cyanogenmod 6.0.0 with dumfuq's 3.5 OC kernel, but I'm still wondering if the spill has something to do with the halved battery life?

I already performed a battery recalibration, by fully charging for an hour past green light, deleting the battery stats, draining it until it wouldn't turn on anymore, and then fully charging past green light again, a procedure I got from the cyanogen wiki.

If I simply replace the battery, would it solve the problem? I read on another thread that some of the cells could have been fried in a short circuit. The battery was overheated once, and the fourth contact was melted slightly, so my friend had to put acetone on it to clear the metal plastic off of the contact, so it works, but could that have something to do with it too?

It's the standard 1300 mAh battery that came with the phone, the phone is roughly half a year old. I am completely willing to invest in a new battery, even an expanded 1800 or 2300 mAh one if available. I just would really like to have the phone last longer than 10 hours with moderate use.

Thanks in advance for the help!

Ryan
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OuncE718:
I would take out the battery and check if there's any swelling on the battery or if you have a friend with a Slide then conduct an experiment by switching batteries and see what happens. If not then its a hardware issue.

Black myTouch Slide w/stock rom

www.GoTeamFriday.com
[Droid X General] snowboarderxd1:
ok i have the droid X and love it <33 but i installed Fission and love it more <3 but i need the 3g hotspot app because i love using it during school for the school computers >:] i need a way to install it i have the team black hat way to install it but it doesnt seem to work even when i mount the System folder i tried it without too What should i do :[?
[Droid X General] holleyz:
Verizon 3g Hotspot

I copied the 3g hotspot zip from TBH after downloading and placed it onto my sandisk card root. I then bootstrapped into recovery and installed the 3g hotspot zip and rebooted. Worked for me. do not wipe anything just instal the zip.
[Droid X General] holleyz:
TBH 3G Hotspot patcher has to be installed also. I copied it to the sandisk card and installed and rebooted. No need to wipe.
[Droid X General] eulerphi8:
Wait really and you're running fission? I'm pretty sure that blurless roms such as fission and rubix cannot install the 3g hotspot app because it's missing some blur dependencies.
[Droid X General] snowboarderxd1:
I keep trying to do that, like install the ZIP. It installs but it wont show in my App Tray it says its in the systems folder but thats it
[Droid X General] faber78:
Can't just use the market one?
[Droid X General] snowboarderxd1:
The verizon hotspot app is in the market? I tried searching couldn't find it I found the other wireless tether but the offical verizon one is alot faster
[Droid X General] LexusBrian400:
No its not in the market. He's talking about the plain old wireless tether. A lot of people dont understand the difference between a wireless access point, and ad hoc data transfer.

Besides the guy a few posts up, I havent found anyone that can get it to work on non-blur rom.

Good luck, and report back if you to get it to go! I havent tried it yet myself.
[Droid X General] holleyz:
i was on Apex

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[Droid X General] sephtin:
Apex is NOT a non-blur rom. It's framework is 2.3.15. Fission/Focused are from the Moto SDK. Please let us know if this works on an actual blurless ROM.
[Droid X General] holleyz:
3g Hotspot.

My mistake.
[Droid X General] supreme777:
i am really interested in finding a way to get verizons 3g hotspot to work on a blurless rom like fission. i had to sbf back to stock to use it as i really need the infastructure of it versus the ad-hoc you get from wireless tether.if anyone has any luck please post
[Droid X General] holleyz:
3g hotspot

Same here. I could not live with ad hoc.
[Droid X General] denpad2010:
Hello excuse my ignorance, but this 3g hotspot is to use for free or still have to pay???? I asking cause I see the patch file
[Droid X General] davisbs999:
well, it's obviously against Verizon's policy, but the patch does give one the option to use the 3G hotspot for free
[Droid X General] denpad2010:
Mmm ok thats sound good really I have no problem to pay if was unlimited...but pay for 2gb only nah????? One question there is any link to step by step routing for DX ??? Thanks
[Droid X General] holleyz:
Here you go. I heard a new one click is out there as well.

http://www.droid-life.com/2010/09/22/how-to-root-droid-x-running-official-android-2-2/
[Droid X General] Aggie12:
ummmm.. Did you mean to post that here. That is a link on how to root your device the original way with cmd prompt and all lol.
[Droid X General] GoldenCyn:
Fission version from TBH. you still need to patch it on ur own. Use the TBH app to get the patch. File is courtesy of DroidForums dot net that they fished from TBH anyway.
[Droid X General] citanes-26:
Fission signed 3G hotspot apk. Angdroid posted it on droid forums. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...vanilla-2-1-11-13-2010-generic-android-4.html
[Droid X General] mruno:
Thank you!
[Droid X General] bmt626:
I am still having no luck after patching and using both 3g hotspots zip file it will not show up what am I missing
[Droid X General] razorloves:
did you install this one? http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...-11-13-2010-generic-android-4.html#post997110

did you mount system prior to installing?

if you did and it still doesnt show up, then go to the /system/app folder and delete mynet.apk and reboot. then try the install again.
[Droid X General] bmt626:
yes i tried to install that one

yes i mounted system also had data and cache mounted

i also tried removing mynet.apk rebooted verified it was gone and tried again still not go does it not work with fission 2.1
[Droid X General] razorloves:
yes it works for fission 2.1 and 2.2.1 and there are several posts saying its working for others.

hmmm. dont know what it could be. Have you tried reinstalling the tbh 3g hotspot patch? then reinstalling the fission-3g hotspot app?
[Droid X General] Enjeru:
I have the same issue as well. Can't get the thing to install :(
[Droid X General] razorloves:
what version of fission? what exactly did you do to install it?
[Droid X General] Enjeru:
Fission 2.1.

I booted into recovery using bootstrap and mounted system, then installed the zip file. Tried deleting the mynet.apk as well and then tried reinstalling, still no go.

All I can think of is that I went from 2.0.1 to 2.1 without SBF so that may have broke something.

EDIT:

Also tried reinstalling the TBH 3g hotspot patch and then the fission hotspot app, still no good.
[Droid X General] razorloves:
you know how to check the permisions on the apk?
[Droid X General] Enjeru:
It's set to

rw-r--r--

I tried doing the equivalent of chmod 777, but that didn't help / really don't like the idea of having that as the permissions of a hotspot app.

EDIT:

Didn't Angdroid say he signed this app to work with fission, but does that look @ the system version (or build #)? Because mine still says FRF91_Fission, but I know it show a different version if you go straight from SBF to Fission 2.1.
[Droid X General] bmt626:
I was able to get it to work by just starting over and doing a wipe in the privacy settings then installing the app in recovery
[Droid X General] :
Instead of posting the TBH App and Hack you guys should just buy the TBH app. It is good to support developers. Think about it, for a few bucks you are getting something that will save you money in the long run and will make your phones run so much better :D
[Droid X General] razorloves:
I completely agree that everyone using the tbh hack should support them and buy their app, but the tbh hotspot app does not work on your rom. Thus, the reason for this thread. Only the one you posted on droidforums that you said is signed for fission works
[Droid X General] SirBrass:
This is about Team Defuse's 3g hotspot app and no link to it was posted. Complaint-FAIL
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipxnsv:
What does this mean for us? Possible that we only have 384 megs of ram?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wstahlhut:
and this is a dev issue how? it belongs in the Q&A section.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipxnsv:
Since a lot of people here are trying to figure out how to free up ram up to the 512 limit ( or even close to it) it could belong here.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flashman2002:
This has been discussed at length how much ram ourphones have. Posting a picture of a vzw ad does not helped dev's do anything with freeing up our ram.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazililazn:
Hmm, just checked gsmarena and there is nothing on the ram of the fascinate, so this might just be true. O.O On gsmarena, it shows as all the other galaxy s phones with 512 mb of ram.

if it is, that kinda sucks, even though you get camera flash, i would gladly take the extra 130mb~ or so of ram :/
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dave the Knave:
Can I just make a quick point here without stepping on anyone's feet?

When you buy a computer advertised to have 4gb of ram, do you actually get to use all 4gb of that ram? No. Your computer takes some of it and divides it up for other purposes. Some is strictly for the OS, some goes and get dedicated to your GPU, and the rest you get to use. The story is the same for our phones. There is a 512mb chip in there for ram. You will only get to use ~380mb of it.

Same for a hard drive. As I've said once before...

It's all there, you just won't ever get to use it all for yourself.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazililazn:
That is cuz how microsoft's file system, NTFS, which counts 1024 kb = 1 mb. That is why it is off. This has nothing to do with NTFS. This is most likely that the ram isnt there. If what you said is the case, that would mean all of the galaxy s phones would be advertised as 304 mb, cuz that is all the is usable at stock.

And your hard drive comparison, thats because for 1 TB to show up in windows, it would have to be 1024 GB instead of the normal 1000 GB just because NTFS has a different way of counting bytes.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JPS81:
No, that is a really terrible analogy. You buy a 1TB hard drive. You get 1TB, counted in decimal. Just because you don't comprehend the difference between binary and decimal doesn't mean you're suddenly losing space. IT IS THE SAME AMOUNT OF SPACE.

Pretend I point to a can of paint and say it is navy blue. Some other guy comes along and says it is actually 000080 in RGB Hex value. You return your can of pain to the store and yell at the manager that you didn't get navy blue.

That's pretty much what you're saying about hard drives. You are not losing anything at all. Period. End of discussion. A computer simply interprets bits in a different numbering system than what we are used to (binary vs. decimal). There is no magic. There is no loss.

Likewise, your 4GB of RAM analogy is also incredibly flawed. When I buy 4GB of RAM, do I get 4GB? Yes, absolutely. There is exactly 4096KB of RAM there. I can have it sitting on my desk and there is 4GB there. I can install it in my machine and there is 4GB there. What it is used for is irrelevant. It is still 4GB that I paid for. I know that for a fact.

For our phones, we do not know for sure that there is exactly 512MB of RAM and, even if we did, we do not know if there is exactly 208MB of RAM being used for system processes or dedicated to the GPU. It could just be reserved for absolutely no purpose or it could not exist at all (after all, 208MB of RAM is an absurdly large amount of RAM to use for the system when we're still using EVEN MORE for android processes we can clearly see in any decent task manager). You don't know and neither do I.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andars05:
It has nothing to do with the NTFS file system. It has to do with how the OS counts (megabyte vs mebibyte - base 10 vs base 2).

In regards to RAM, PC manufacturers do state if the GPU is using shared memory. Other than a non-discrete GPU, RAM in a computer isn't typically statically reserved.

The Galaxy S has never had 384~ MB available to the user. The most that can be squeezed out at present, and still have a fully functional phone, is 340~ MB.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmvik:
So perhaps a developer has more to say about this... since they DEVELOP? It is awful lot of RAM to be used for unknown stuff
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fatttire:
Eh, he still has a point. There's 512 there, just some of it is used for the system. I forgive Samsung for this since all android phones (heck, all OS's) suffer this phenomena.

I read somewhere that Samsung chose to statically allocate it rather than dynamically, just to really increase stability. So the cappy may be worse but still you always see this in some form
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DirtySoul:
Then why Galaxy Tab shows 444 of available RAM?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fatttire:
Because that's a tablet?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DirtySoul:
The specs of the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab are the same, apart from the screen resolution.. Even the Quadrant scores are the same.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fatttire:
You just said the RAM was different.

Anyways, that doesn't change my point that some RAM is always taken by the system OS. Android is a little unique in that each hardware distributor is allowed to tweak the OS so the level of system RAM reserved changes but its still there always
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sschrupp:
They said the amount of *AVAILABLE* RAM shows differently. Insinuating that when two pieces of hardware that are identical show different amounts of available RAM (available, not physically present) that there is something else going on that we the user aren't aware of.

Unknowns like this lead to people asking questions. People asking questions lead to answers. Answers lead to optimizations by brilliant XDA developers. Brilliant XDA developers making optimizations lead to terribly happy users like myself.

So it's in the interest of everyone posting in these forums to ask questions and try to come up with possible answers besides "No".

Yes, we know OSes use RAM and allocates it to various things. I think the issue as stated by others already is that we don't know how MUCH RAM is being used by the OS in our case.

If one device says we have 340 MB RAM available, and another almost identical device says 444 MB RAM available then that means it's POSSIBLE that our brilliant XDA developers could discover how to free up another 100 MB RAM to do fascinating things with.

It's NOT possible for them to discover that if people asking questions and helpful suggestions are shut down by negative people simply stating "NO".
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiger4j:
https://github.com/cmsgs/android_device_samsung_galaxys/blob/master/config

you can go here and check out the reserved memory allocation. See line 766 and 1394 under "reserved memory config." the reserved mem adds up to approx. 140 mb. give or take a few. That would put us pretty close to 512. Some of that can be freed up as has been done on the i9000 forum. They have successfully freed up 40-50 mb to be used as free ram, although freeing up too much from certain locations can have negative results such as hindering 720p playback. See speedmod froyo in the i9000 forum for details. [KERNEL] SpeedMod Froyo 340MB RAM Optimized + Sharpness fix by Hardcore. I also think sztupy, developer of z4mod (I believe) had something to do with it.

Just a matter of time and hopefully we will have the same. :)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andars05:
I know they're both advertised as having 512MB, but the Tab has more physical RAM than the phone. You can find a post somewhere in the forum talking about the memory chip configuration. The Tab has 128MB more than the phone. That's the primary reason the Tab has so much more available memory.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vbhines:
I just had to chime in - to satisfy the MS/HDD argument, an even better analogy: You purchase a Dell computer that is advertised to have a 500gb HDD. It arrives at your door only for you to find that (GASP!) the Windows install took 10gb, leaving you with only 490gb.

I believe that most if not all mobile handset manufacturers do this to some extemt. My Droid Incredible had 16gb of onboard storage advertised. They didn't mention that 4gb of that was reserved for the actual Android OS. It honestly never crossed my mind to feel swindled - it's just how it is.

That being said, I grow tired of this thread popping up as bumped when I check the Dev Forums for updates. While this discussion certainly has merit, it's nothing new to developers, nor does it have merit for them in particular.

Mods, can we get this thread locked or moved?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Athailias:
Z4mod is from Z4ziggy
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipxnsv:
I think what i was saying is that the Captivate kernel may have some of the same code as the fascinate. Hence being designed to use the max which the fascinate has (384). I used my friends fascinate and they have the same amount of 'free' memory that we usually see. Maybe that is the cause? Trying to free up more ram only causes errors because that is leaving 40 or less MB for the OS.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joeshmoe08:
Actually I'm sure that when a company says that the phone has 512mb ram, it is not really 512 mb usable ram. My dad has an iphone 4 and when I use sbsettings to stop all running processes, I get ~350 mb so all phones are like this.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipxnsv:
There is a difference there. you have 350 TO USE -- 512 total! in my captivate with everything dead i have 200 megs of FREE usable ram and 310 TOTAL usable.

So there is the diff

Iphone 512 total usable

350 free usable for apps

captivate 310 total usable

200 total usable for apps.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] novaIS350:
384 is reserved for the OS the remaining memory is reserved for the might powervr 540 gpu. That is all
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipxnsv:
No, 384 is actually the total installed ram on the fascinate. We have 512 total, but my guess is our kernel is based on the same base so we are only able to access the same amount of ram.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drb3rg:
How do I get that file back?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zerocool76:
if you dont have the file .nv_data.bak in the /efs folder, try to check if you have the file in your sdk tools folder. I found a backup of mine (don't ask me why it was there) in the folder.I could restore my imei with that file on my Galaxy Tab