yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] evilpeople:
You're right, of course. I probably should not have posted here (I didn't know about the IRC channel), but I let my excitement get the best of me. Lesson learned.

Edit: Maybe a mod should close the thread, so it can go quietly into the night?
[Epic 4G General] spitefulrain:
Hey, I appreciate this. You weren't advertising a release, you just stated that it was in the beta and showed proof. Thats plenty for me. I have hopes it will be ready soon now :) Thanks for sharing.
[Epic 4G General] Geekybiker:
The one thing I really want to see is if it has Kies support now. Install kies from the UK samsung site, and then plug your phone in to your PC via USB and see if it allows you to select kies mode. I understand it was a TW3 issue before, so maybe we'll get it now.
[Epic 4G General] mousiluck:
Just imagine this getting leaked, without the proper gear...what if you have to rewrite a whole new root. Or anything else. Do you guys really think it would be ok to have your phone bricked while doing a flash. Granted that it could possibly be a monopoly, but all in all if noobnl has it let him risk messin his epic up first then if it's all good to go he'll release it.
[Epic 4G General] scriz:
It can't be a monopoly, because if he releases it before the release date all a dev would have to do is strip out all of his stuff and put in their own then release it...

Maybe he'll be the first to release a rom for the epic with 2.2, but calling it a monopoly just isn't proper.
[Epic 4G General] mousiluck:
And plus it's the dicks that were doubting it in the first place. So why would the op want to release it the people calling his bluff. Just thank the punks for him not releasing it to everyone.
[Epic 4G General] mousiluck:
Ehh I could care less if it was a monoply or not. I'd rather have noobnl and a few other people have it first. So they can set a standard. I'm going to go talk to my buddy again to see if he knows somone with the beta. If so I'll leak it if not I won't simple as that. If anyone wants to be a punk then let them.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Im glad noobnls has it, i dont like flashing betas they are always buggy as hell, i dont want to brick my epic as well as loose root. Noobnls what is doing he is a great developer and he was the one that gave us the one click root script,clockwork, first kernal,first rom and ive been using all his **** and love all of them so stable and fast. I can only imagine what he can do with a beta of froyo. Also im really anxious in trying frozen eclair when it comes out of beta. Im glad good developers have it first. :)
[Epic 4G General] formula84:
Would you mind commenting on my TV out question does it show in settings of the beta?
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Leak it to the people who need it for development. Been waiting on froyo to use a custom rom.
[Epic 4G General] evilpeople:
How would I test this? Do I need a special TV cable (which I do not have)?
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
FM radio

Another question.

Does it have FM radio?

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] rglover1168:
I'm also interested in the TV out option. Some of the other Galaxy S phones use a 3.5 to rca cable to connect using the tv-out function. One thing you might try in order to check and see if it is an option is to go to settings from the home screen select Sound & Display and see if there is a TV out choice listed there.
[Epic 4G General] mhafeezr:
This thread really made my day.
[Epic 4G General] imwillzillla:
Whatever, last I heard directly from Samsung was that it was being released late October. And the best I get now is a blurry picture (no offense to original poster) in November. Love the device hate the company who made it. Can't wait for something substantial
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
several people have it. its being discussed on irc.
[Epic 4G General] razorseal:
and are they talking about TV OUT?

Well, maybe this will let me hold back on giving back my epic for an evo. I still got like 2 weeks left to decide I think
[Epic 4G General] a454nova:
I'm Happy that its real and noobnl has it. He'll have root and all the goods stuff before its even released. I had a new Evo with 2.2 before they had the root. Sucked waiting! We'll see it from someone within a few days. You know it. Someone will leak. They always do. ; )

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] ravizzle:
I talked to noob last night. No tv out, but we do have tw 3.0 and music player etc..

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] evilpeople:
I don't see an FM radio app, and plugging in a set of headphones didn't give me any prompts. Sound & Display are two separate menu items for me, but neither has anything about a TV output. Not that any of that means anything :)
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
Does GPS actually work? Only thing that really intrigues me. Does it refresh ephemeris with WiFi enabled? And is the keyboard more responsive?
[Epic 4G General] InfDaMarvel:
Any UI enhancements? Speed?
[Epic 4G General] razorseal:
I'm curious why it scored so low on quadrant. that's the lowest 2.2, and supposedly our processors are the most advanced ones...
[Epic 4G General] brianbrain:
Probably being held back by I/O performance, if I had to guess..
[Epic 4G General] razorseal:
What are we missing in that dept?
[Epic 4G General] evilpeople:
Again, I never had eclair on this for more than a few minutes on this, so I don't have much to compare to. It seems very fast and not laggy to me, and I came from an Evo with a custom 2.2 rom. There are a few bugs - the notification sound cuts off sometimes and the "Move To" in an email folder doesn't work. Once in a while the drag up to unlock seems stuck and I have to do it multiple times.
[Epic 4G General] quik99:
what about neocore 3d scores or does froyo not improve those?
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Samsung uses their propitiatory file system which is slow as a turtle..no offense to any turtles..
[Epic 4G General] evilpeople:
NeoCore yeilds 55.4 FPS
[Epic 4G General] quik99:
so once we have froyo can we use another file system with custom roms? and I say we as in i plan on buying this phone in about 1 week when we move to sprint so have been following these forums lol
[Epic 4G General] mattallica76:
Is the file system really slower? Or does it just benchmark differently? I ask this because side by side with the Evo, the Epic just feels faster. And the Evo is supposed to have the "better" file system.
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
Looks like noob will have to tell us the features and such

sent from my epic 4g with no 4g
[Epic 4G General] formula84:
Damn that's so disappointing, I have to 10/13 to trade this bad boy in and I was hoping tvout would be found in froyo release. As much as I would hate to do it this is a necessity for me and my in car lcd, why could my 4 year old touch pro do tv out and this power house has it ripped out? Damn
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
This is ****ing gay. Either release it or don't say anything at all. I mean... Either way, beta rules get broken.

As for donating... I never understood giving money to the so called developers who simply modify the stock rom.

P.s. Peeps... It's donor, not " donator"
[Epic 4G General] gTen:
Ok let me rephrase that..the I/O is slow for a 45nm chip...From what I hear Android does not play nicely with the file system...The epic unlike the other has some optimizations similar to the lagfix to make it smoother...but it can be faster if we can remove samsung file system all together and use something more "standard"..its not related to froyo...

There are people working on it in the other galaxy s phones...once its one my guess it will be ported...
[Epic 4G General] heathmcabee:
sad day when open source is no longer open source
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
galaxy s has movinand (internal sdcard) which is slow on data partition

but the epic has the onenand which is high i/o (very fast) on data partition

froyo too buggy, i had problem with radio locking up(modem crashing) and fcs and one black screen of death but other wize it a pritty good

i gave it to 2 other trusted developers
[Epic 4G General] jok3sta:
hope schizo was one..:)
[Epic 4G General] Tgrable:
In my opinion either post it so we can all use it (You know like we are suppose to do since this is all open sourse) Or stfu about it.

So either share or keep your damn mouth shut, noone wants to hear you rub it in their face about what you have or who you will share it with.

Just another person trying to hoard a leak for themselves so they can rom it and require donations, seriously.. just gtfo
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
More people testing = more people finding different bugs.
[Epic 4G General] apatcas:
U r aware that noobnl has made major contributions to all that is Epic 4G developement, right?
[Epic 4G General] mekeke:
Does that really matter? There are others who have contributed too, what about them?
[Epic 4G General] bobdude5:
what about them?
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
that was the question lol

its a beta so more people testing the better

better yet someone should root it so it can be ready when the final version is released
[Epic 4G General] mekeke:
Exactly, and if Sprint had more input from people, it could make its final version of Froyo better. Sprint should of just released this to anybody who wanted it, then asked for feedback.
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
Iyd be free beta testing

sent from my epic 4g with no 4g
[Epic 4G General] cobradude:
noobnl,

new to this development stuff... why would samsung release such a buggy epic software version to sprint or was it fine before sprint added their bloatware? this is confusing. anyone able to answer my question? Thanks
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Dude you are WAY outta line what have you made for the epic.... Exactly get out of here troll!!!!
[Epic 4G General] Tgrable:
His contribution to all that is epic has nothing to do with my point. The fact is this is a forum dedicated to being open (opensource) He then gets a guy with a leaked beta to give him access, then refuses to share with everyone else, for only one reason. He wants to make the first custom rom for it then require even more donations.

He is taking something that the community has a right to and is using it for his own greedy,selfish,self-centered gain. I don't care about him being a dev, or being a decent contributor, the fact is this action makes him out to be nothing more than a greedy little *****.
[Epic 4G General] ravizzle:
Noob isnt hoarding to make money or require donations. He can't release to public to protect his source. Just be patient ppl, if its in beta and is mostly stable that means we are close to getting it ota, maybe by end of month or by 2nd week of dec.

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] mekeke:
It's like the forum is a Monarchy to him, everyone gives to him, yet he does not have to share with everyone else.

I am tempted to go down to my local sprint store and inquire about beta testing Froyo. If they do let me beta test it, I would gladly share it with the community.
[Epic 4G General] plada2315:
the idiots that are posing "release it or dont tell us" and things of that nature stfu the guy is doing you a favor by telling you something dont be asses and if it bugs u that much move the F on and stop visiting this forum he will get it to us once he is ready thats his call
[Epic 4G General] humdrum2009:
WOW

All this over froyos beta sheesh funny thing is gingerbread is being released on other phones soon so we will still be behnd the 8-Ball.

I am new to android flashing but learning everyday but some of us are just being mean.

Enjoying my epic with 2.1 just fine i just want a froyo update that wont wipe root from my phone ill wait for the devs to do so because im sure sprint will wipe root with the official 2.2 update:D
[Epic 4G General] Tgrable:
The person who had the beta wasn't noob and it has already been discussed that their is no way to identify who gave up the original beta version... so yes he is being a greedy little *****. You can call me a troll or whatever you desire,but the fact is I am right and I have no problem speaking my mind. If people want to use his stuff fine, I would have been game till I saw this stunt. He lost all my respect, but please continue worshipping him fanboi's you are just missing out on all the other roms most which are better

Sent from my Samsung Epic
[Epic 4G General] akijikan:
Its like damageless and 2.1 on the hero all over again.

Sad to see Mods taking their own concerns over the community.
[Epic 4G General] drunix:
Christ people. My guess is hat OP released it to a source he trusted not to leak it because that was the most good he could do for the community without feeling that he was putting his friend at sprint at significant risk. He ist technical enough himself to get a headstart on rooting it and researching and noobnl has a reputation for being open in his posts. As long as noobnl releases nonsensitive information (non rooting related) as he finds it and rooting related once froyo is officially released, he's done us all a great service.

And honestly him getting is rom/kernel updates in and releasing on froyo ota release day would help consumers by getting them a solid rom with root on day one and devs by sharing his techniques with them and allowing them to incorporate his mods.

Quit whining.
[Epic 4G General] jojo08:
+1 on the GPS question but more specifically how is the accuracy on the GPS? still at 30m on google maps?
[Epic 4G General] imwillzillla:
if the OP gave it to Noob on the premise that he wouldn't share with the entire community is clearly acceptable. Would have been nice if Noob would have just explained it instead of posting like an elitist with "Not gonna happen" among other things.

I personally don't know the guy nor do I have an opinion on anything outside of this particular thread. He can be the nicest guy in the world doesn't change the fact that he came off as a developer that couldn't be bothered with why he's not sharing yet has "DONATE" Right at his name.

Again he doesn't OWE us anything, but he wouldn't mind taking donations from each and every one of us, he shouldn't mind saying "I was asked not to share it from OP"
[Epic 4G General] infamousjax:
awww poor babies cant get froyo boo hoo :(:(:(:(
[Epic 4G General] noobnl:
i am getting 20m range
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Everyone please. The update is unstable and unfinished. The radio continually crashes and resets. The software in the rom is also buggy. If this was released to the public half the community wouldn't know what to do with it, and the other half would complain about how bad it is. When the official rom is pushed out I will be sure to post the shipped rom ASAP, until then these leaks need to stay in the developers hands only to see if we can use anything from and/or get ready for the update itself.

Please don't take offense to this, it's just that this is not a daily use ROM...yet. The developers are just using this to gain information about it and learn more from it. Please everyone just be patient, the official update will be out this month. When it does come out, it'll be worth the wait. If you get it now you will hate it. Trust me please.

Thanks,

Korey
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
Thanks for the update - means the hard-coded limit is probably gone. That being said, can you get a GPS lock after leaving the phone on WiFi overnight, and then trying to use GMaps? On our current stock phones, having WiFi on prevents the Epic from refreshing the ephemeris cache from the assistance server, leaving the GPS unable to lock on. Is this fixed? I reeeeaallly hope so.
[Epic 4G General] a454nova:
All I want to say is thank you to noobnl and the OP for keeping cool and giving us insight.

P.S. noobnl has never really ever said to much in his post. Always short and to the point. Everyone else has always filled in so don't take it like he's a ****. The guy is always at it and knows what he's doing and never asks for anything.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] ZenInsight:
YESSSS!!!! You are the man! That's what I want to know. Is there TV out?????
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
20m only? The mesmerize is 6m
[Epic 4G General] Forcystos:
What really is disappointing is that a BETA build was compiled in October 29? This means an official update is still way off.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] boomerbubba:
If the GPS is working, that estimated accuracy is a dynamic calculation that changes constantly. I took noobnl's comment to be a report of a snapshot. Actually describing the accuracy performance would take some detailed field testing.

The significant news is that one of the obvious bugs on the Epic today is that the GPS always reports 30.0 meters accuracy, as if it is hard coded. So at least this behavior seems different. (Perhaps some dingbat programmer just changed a hard-coded constant from 30 to 20, but that would be hard to believe, even for Samsung programmers.)
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
What favor is he doing us?
[Epic 4G General] tommyrumpke:
+1

Like I said, I've had an Epic since day 1, and have gone to Noobnl for everything from root to rom, but here he came across as a greedy dev, a simple "it crashes too much to be usable at this point" would have sufficed.
[Epic 4G General] herzzreh:
Whatever. Cyanogen has the same issues and yet their nightlies are released to the public... I bet that this will turn into "i have froyo.. If u want it, then donate to me." Sad thing is that there will be a ton of fools who will give money to him for ****ing open source software.
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
Well with the recession lots of peeps are without jobs lol jk

I think the hate for noob stems from he said blatantly i wont leak it. A simple too buggy for release wouldve been fine.

sent from my epic 4g with no 4g
[Epic 4G General] kain203:
Funny thing, noobnl has sent it to a select few. I have been waiting for Froyo to do any kind of development work. I am new to Android but I am under the impression Samsung and Sprint rushed the Epic 4G because they put eclair on it. I just want to know for sure Froyo will be well worth developing on.
[Epic 4G General] stir fry a lot:
Whatever, I'm just happy Froyo is on the horizon.
[Epic 4G General] westicle:
Yeah, right. What have you developed thus far? Oh right...not a thing. You can't develop because you dont have froyo...i call bull****. Just say you want the leak, not some bull**** about being a noob and not being able to develop without the leak, cuz theres plenty that you "could" have "developed" without the leak.

Sent from your grandma's house on my motorola RAZR
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
so you are saying devs should be special?

not condoning nor praising anything in this thread but thats what it sounds like

as long as this gets rooted for us when official thats fine

but yeah it irks me that only a select few devs have it but meh whats done is done coulda woulda shoulda right?
[Epic 4G General] infamousjax:
It's just a beta, you know that right? Full of bugs, quirks, problems. You all ***** too much as it is, what do you think releasing this would do? Just stfu and wait it out.
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
allow a better beta test group
[Epic 4G General] Loqheed:
Man no need to get your panties in a wad. You can complain when Noob actually pulls the stunt that you've been accusing him this whole time. He doesn't owe any of us jack schitt. The OP already chimed in. You might not like his short answers or the fact that he isn't sharing it, but you haven't really given the community much besides your *****ing. STFU and be patient... nobody gives a schitt about your whining. I've been lurking for awhile now, and I seldom post, but god damn do you rub me the wrong way.
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
3 years and one post.....
[Epic 4G General] razorseal:
I can't believe this... Compared my droid to this phone. Gps is 6 feet accuracy vs epic at 98! Like someone said it is constant, but damn! Also droid had gps in like 5 seconds where it took epic like 5 mins...

Oh, and has anyone put this phone up against an evo side by side and ten the browser and youtube? My gf's evo always wins by several seconds!

Sent from Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] Darkshneider:
Lol yeah, this is taking me back. So if its as buggy as they say, how come the OP didn't mention anything about it? A radio crash or "tons" of FC's could've been advised since post #1. But hey, go nuts.
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
good point i didnt think of that

but i must have keyboard
[Epic 4G General] imwillzillla:
Someone give this guy his binky... He's whining about people whining about a legit gripe. It's not like someone is saying hey you got something and we want you to do what is NOT commonly done on this site. They are asking the OP or one who has gotten it to do what they in the past have wanted themselves. For something to be shared for everyone to test. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

People have released buggy betas and warned and that was it. If you want to stop the trolling going on in this thread, why don't you start with the one that's closest to you.... Look in the mirror.
[Epic 4G General] nickallain:
I won't speak for kain, but I've been keeping a close eye on and this and many other threads. Adobe Air is only fully supported on 2.2 Froyo. I have 2 apps that I need to test locally (the emulator just isn't a good indicator of game/video decoding performance). As soon as Froyo comes out for the epic, I'll be launching 2 apps within a month (I had one app on the market already for 1.6 but I pulled it because it sucked).

I just want to also say that I support the dev's in not releasing the not-ready-for-prime-time code. If they were do so, they could burn their contact (OP) and possibly not get access to an RC or later beta releases. The peanut gallery ought to just be quiet and let them do what they do best - pulling apart spaghetti code and trying to make something out of it.
[Epic 4G General] razorseal:
Is that all we have? Noobl and that's it? We had so many for droid. I can't believe we have like one... I really like the epic, love it actually but compared to other phones, open dev support is minimal compared to other phones. Seriously considering evo now, but I like the phone too much too give it up. I couldn't believe how bad gps is compared to my year old droid!

Sent from Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] pulser_g2:
Thread closed per OP request as it's turning into a bit of a flamewar.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liquidkernel:
So with this new release of VVM, it has added a button to sign up for a trial of voicemail-to-text. I have no intention of using it, but really want that button gone.

Anyone have solutions? Thanks :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottndville:
I'm thinking it'll go away in 30 days.

Swyped from MIuiEVO
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkelle4:
Click and sign up for the trial. The button goes away, plus it doesn't automatically start charging you after the first month, so no worries there.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Adam1422:
To get this new VM feature is it a firmware update or software update? I dont think I have the new VM feature. How do I get it?
[Streak 5 General] the_paranoid_android:
No, it can only be used on GSM networks.
[Streak 5 General] p51d007:
If you go into the Emlist program, there are several references to CDMA.

Maybe the at&t/Dell version doesn't have cdma, or it's something left over

from the droid OS for both the gsm & cdma phones?
[Streak 5 General] the_paranoid_android:
I have the US/AT&T streak, I do see references and settings for WCDMA on my phone but WCDMA is just an extension of GSM and is not used on CDMA networks (Sprint/Verizon) as far as I know anyway.
[Streak 5 General] chiragbaid:
thnx guys...
[Vibrant General] richmc73:
http://www.androidcentral.com/froyo-pushing-out-galaxy-s-phones-uk-right-about-now

Hopefully the UK release means we here in the US aren't far behind.
[Vibrant General] presence06:
It's dumb they're doing it through Kies, hopefully US will get OTA

Someone posted on.. I think it was Android Central that ( "I heard from this guy..") a T-Mo rep at store had showed him an email regarding "a huge update" that was coming to the Vibrant on the 15th. It's one of those things again, but hopefully it's true.