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[EVO 4G General] david279:
I charge my phone up to 97%. gives me almost 15 hrs. of use.
[EVO 4G General] Noxious Ninja:
It all depends on how long it's on the charger after it hits the 100% mark. Basically, as long as it's on the charger, it will hit 100% and then the display will stay there. However, the charger actually charges to 100%, then waits until it falls back down to 90%, then starts charging again ad infinitum. So if it's been on the charger awhile after hitting 100%, it may very well be closer to 90% in reality.
[EVO 4G General] ms79723:
I know that and understand it, but I don't understand why other people know this and still complain about losing the 10% in the first 10 minutes when they can easily stop it.

Oh well, kernel .35 that's being worked on toast fixes this apparently.
[EVO 4G General] Noxious Ninja:
Sure, it's just that "don't charge to 100%" isn't really a solution, it just prevents you from running into the confusing situation with the battery meter.
[EVO 4G General] CheesyNutz:
i charge to 100 % every time and get 15 - 17 hours per charge with moderate use
[EVO 4G General] ms79723:
I see what ya sayin, that's true. I just can't bare to see that drop from 100 though since i really do use my phone heavy, it replaces my laptop while at school, so my awake time and uptime are usually within 30 mins of each other (I don't let it take any naps)

I'll just say that this is my own personal solution, since it makes me feel better haha
[EVO 4G General] jonnythan:
Some of you guys are putting way too much stock into small movements of the battery meter.
[EVO 4G General] topdawgn8:
If you want to objectively test this theory, do three runs:

1. Charge to 100% and remove after ten minutes.

2. Charge to 100% and remove after two hours

3. Charge to 95% and remove.

To make it go faster, run your most intensive applications and time how long it takes to drain. To do this test properly, there needs to be many different trials with a proper control; however, this should serve our purposes well enough. Any takers on doing this? I can't go that long without using my phone for work/school.
[EVO 4G General] rugedraw:
+1. Everyone has a $500 phone which they paid at least $200 for. You can go on eBay and order two generic 1600mah batteries from China for $10 shipped with an extra wall charges that charges your phone via the USB cable and one of the batteries at the same time. Problem solved.

I know what people are going to start to say: "Those batteries aren't as good as the OEM ones." Well, does it really matter? I've gotten over 12 hours of moderate use on a generic battery and I'm OC'd. Charge the batteries and keep them in your car since your car is going to be where ever you are. It is much more inconvenient to have to have your phone on a charger all the time than it is to swap batteries.
[EVO 4G General] Max_Pain:
i'm surprised that this is such a well known issue yet nobody has provided a fix for it.

if i'm correct when the phone is off it charges, but not when it's in recovery. so couldn't there be a kernel/software patch that would charge to 99% then put the phone into "recovery mode" so to speak so it would stop charging, essentially never letting it get to 100%?

doing that is beyond me, but with what i've seen done here this seems like a piece of cake for some of our devs?:confused:
[EVO 4G General] bronxknight28:
still dont see why poeple call it a "problem" , its been explained that its not a problem many times
[EVO 4G General] ms79723:
Its like the fps, 55fps is good but 60 "feels" so much better so why not go for 60?

And really, this was just a thought. I have 3 batteries, but on days where its raining and I have to catch the bus...I'd rather not have them on me.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] iivisionii:
Hey guys, I was hoping someone might know what's going on. My phone started acting really slow today then gave me a low on memory message all of a sudden. I checked and i only had 10 megs free internal memory for some reason. I've always had 100+ at least. I checked all over, including by using the file find feature and had no big files/pictures. Deleted my texts and emails. That all gave me a few more megs, but didn't go back to normal. I even tried using a backup file from a couple of days ago and it's still like that, so either this has been happening for a while and i didn't notice or backup restore doesn't fix it. Anyone got an idea as to what's going on?

This is a sprint touch pro 2 running energy rom.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] iivisionii:
Got the problem fixed. What I ended up doing was hard resetting, then restoring from SPB backup and i got all of the memory back. I don't know what was screwed up, but if you ever have this problem try doing that. I think it was probably a file system or physical storage problem.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] brainrepairer:
I found a program called cleartemp that solved similar problem for me. Went from 15 megs to 60 just from using that program to clear all the temporary file garbage that builds up. Cleartemp has a lot of settings to work with and may solve your problem if it happens again.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] iivisionii:
Thanks for the tip. I'll look for it next time it happens. For now i reformatted my phone.
[Touch Pro2 CDMA] Tripp-phpBB:
Did you ever try to just soft reset it? Sometimes mine gets bogged down from too many texts and numbers in my call log so I'll clean them all out and then reset my phone and all is good. Only do this like once a week.
[Captivate General] Valdemens:
Ok, after trying to restore a backup via ROM manager, my phone is stuck booting into recovery mode. I have multiple nandroid backups but not the clockwork recovery. What do I do?
[General Questions and Answers] deadmeatday:
I saw this phone on the database site. I hope this is the right place to ask this question. I was wondering if this phone could be used on AT&T network? I know the phone isn't out yet, but I wanted to know. Because I love the style of the phone. I have the 2 before it.

Thank you for any help.
[General Questions and Answers] brad_wp:
The European HTC 7 Pro will work on AT&T's Edge Network, but not the 3G. European 3G is in the 900 and 2100 MHz bands, AT&T 3G is the 850 and 1900 MHz bands. I would imagine you'd get 3G service on an European 7 Pro with T-Mobile, but not AT&T. If you're willing to give up the 3G go for it, it looks like a great phone, and a perfect successor to the "Tilt" line (AHEM AT&T!!!).
[General Questions and Answers] daveb673:
I just did a search, and turned up these results, for those that might be interested:

http://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-7-pro/#specs It looks like it will work on AT&T...
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] adprice:
I've been running into a problem where email gets deleted from the app almost immediately after I check it. Has anyone else seen this problem? Any idea the causes?
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] youquijano:
anyone knows how to search email in the stock email?
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] RMarkwald:
This thread is almost a year old. You should start a new thread with your issue.
[myTouch 4G General] pseudoswede:
Has anyone ordered their phone through the Retentions department? What kind of price did you get?
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
watching this i havent upgraded in 35 months so they better get me a killer deal to keep me
[myTouch 4G General] borodin1:
I got my G2 for $150 (wasn't even eligible for upgrade)

I imagine one can get the same deal for Mt4G. I'm going to give it a shot tomorrow if my return goes tghrough by tghat time (sent it back on 18th, tghey still don't have it in the system)
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
what does everyone think retentions will do if i call them about this

125 is a killer deal. no tax. free shipping. I dont want to pay that upgrdae fee though
[myTouch 4G General] DarkAgent:
It depends on how long you have been with them. I was able to get them to sell me the Vibrant for $100 + $20/month unlimited data plan. I then submitted $50 rebate for Vibrant, so grand total of $50.

Now I had them swap out the Vibrant for MT4G for free (had problems with Vibrant).

YMMV
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
All-in with express shipping - $119.95. Also got unlimited $30 plan for $20. Was eligible for upgrade (not locked in).
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
Alright, i've never heard of the Retention department. How the hell are you guys getting that cheap price for the MT4g? Espeically that screenshot, where on the tmobile site is that?
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
Do not think it is a TMo internet page - had to call (661 is free) and asked for the cancellation/customer retention department.

Screen-shot may be from Account page after the order (?).
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
I'm probably going to call Tmobile later on. I wonder if i come at Tmobile with a cheap price for a phone, and threaten to cancel so i can open a new account somwhere else, if they'll match the price.
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
I did not go directly after the phone prices - complained about being forced to change data plan and mentioned leaving. They offered the price along with the reduced price on the plan.

Just call them. Note - the discontinue services option on the automated phone system gets you to retention - same people....
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
I actually have been dealing with some bull**** from them recently. I've had a Sidekick LX 09 on my family plan. I had to have it warranty swapped 2 or 3 times. But Tmobile states they only have records of one time.

Their reasoning behind this is that if there is water damage, and if you have to pay the $100 replacement, the phone gets sent from a different distributor and Tmobile doesnt have records of that...that is bull****.

I've been a service holder for 14 months. I've been given an 18 month upgrade discount but that doesnt really cut it...still pretty high.
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
I was browsing around, and Wirefly has this phone for cheap.

$80 with a 2 year contract.
[myTouch 4G General] e-wrecked:
On the phone with Tmobile right now.. Had the vibrant for the past 4 months. Purchased Vibrant out of contract for $500, and did the 20 payments with no interest plan. I called and complained that the Vibrant is laggy, I've returned it 3 times..and would like a different phone. They asked which phone, I told them the MT4G. First they wanted me to pay $100.. my silence to their request turned into a t-mo counteroffer of no charge. Without committing to a new contract they are sending me a new MT4G - I also keep the Vibrant. Only one catch, I finish paying off the vibrant over the next 17 months(which I was obligated to do anyhow).

Thanks tmobile!
[myTouch 4G General] dafish69:
Didn't do as good as $119, but got it for $149 and free shipping thru retentions. Also got to keep my G1 $25 unlimited internet with 400 text messages. I don't do a lot of texts.

Overall I'm happy with this deal. My main priority was not to loose my internet plan and to get the phone without a rebate hassle.
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
well holy ****. i think i need to call these people!
[myTouch 4G General] vikramdhani:
I don't believe you because if they will give you a replacement then they will take your phone back.

only way i will believe your story if you have documents to prove it else you should take your BS somewhere else because people here do not like to make or hear stupid stories
[myTouch 4G General] e-wrecked:
then I bet you also won't believe I was the first person to come up with the first GPS fix for the Vibrant using the *#*#1472365#*#* pattern, and changing the AGPS settings including SUPL server and port? I have evidence to back that up too. I'm no troll, fool. I asked what they would like me to do with the Vibrant, and he said "keep it, you've had it over 30 days.. you're getting a free phone". Yeah, much like you I didn't believe either. But I'm not paying anything additional, and it will be on my doorstep by Friday.
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
on the phone with retentions got it for 125 and 20 data expressed shipping. Plus they lowered my messaging to 10 bucks a month for my 3 lines and dropped my sisters 10 dollar internet to 5 bucks a month

so im a happy customer. beats going through wirefly and their weird agreements
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
What are you saying to retention to get this deal?
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
well ive been with tmo for about 9 years now and have 2 lines not under contract. so they didnt want to lose me. i hadnt upgraded my line in about 35 months.

i told them about my plan and messaging and my sisters dumb phone internet and she just started knocking things down to keep me

she initially offered the phone for 150 but i mentioned the wirefly deal and she said she wasnt going to lose me for 25 bucks

so i took it. All in all my bill ended up going down 5 bucks. So im happy. I get good tmo coverage in Miami and im starting grad school her in June so i wont be traveling much.

I went in this morning and played wiht the phone for about 15 mins unrestricted (well no internet) and it was nice and snappy (i had an EVO for 30 days but went back to tmo) i liked how it felt in my hand and being a photographer i did actually like the camera (minus HTCs inability to get good audio recording)
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
I'm going to try this. i pay like $160/month for my family plan so i contribute a little bit.
[myTouch 4G General] cscorbin:
I got mine through rententions for $149 with free upgraded shipping, waved upgrade fee, and no plan change required to my $25 data plan.
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
I was able to talk my way out of a rate plan increase about 2 weeks ago.

We have a mytouch3g and a sidekick 09 on our family plan. I pay $30/month for my unlimited data, and $25/month for the sidekick unlimited data.

I bought a used mytouch slide for $100 so i called TMO and had them switch devices, i was then told i'de have to pay $30/month for the unlimited data. I argued and eventually got them to leave the price where it was.
[myTouch 4G General] CaliCL9:
I just got mine for $99 ;)

This is how you doit..

Call customer service, ask for an account specialist, tell him your not happy with you phone and you want a new one, tell him your thinking about an iphone and you could get one for a killer price. You gotta sweet talkthem. Don't mention anything about you hearing people getting it for $99. You gotta talkthem into it.

White MT4G priority mail ill have it by Friday thanks you very much

(Sorry for the typos this G1 keyboard sucks lol)
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
Wow, and did they make you use your upgrade? or did you basically just buy the phone as if you do not have a contract? I dont mean by the pricing, i just mean by no extension, and no use of your upgrade.
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
nooooo you beat meee. awesome deal
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
So what happens if the rep doesnt fall for it? haha I would feel awkward and plus they would document that you're trying to cancel haha.
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
true ill take my 125 and lowered plan bits and run

one question my sister is now a full time university student and she is on my account. will they do a student discount? anyone know?
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
Im wondering what TMO will do for Black Friday, if anything.
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
Im going to try this tonight. i'll let you guys know what happens.
[myTouch 4G General] sunnylicious:
All I could get the phone for was $250...Ive been with them for 6 years but recently got the Vibrant at the upgrade price.

Should I call back?
[myTouch 4G General] halfcalf:
I didnt get as good of a deal, $35 unlimited internet + messaging (they made me "upgrade" my internet package last year with the purchase of a new phone, should have fought it then...) and $149.99 no activation fees free express shipping with a 20 day remorse period and no restocking fee

no stores around me had the red one so i would have had to order it anyways, and im still under contract so it wasnt a terrible deal, plus i wasnt going to leave them anyways
[myTouch 4G General] halfcalf:
I called earlier and talked to someone, he didnt really seem to care to keep me, he offered to let me keep the same internet fee (he said thats standard) but only offered me the phone at $199.99 ( he started at $218!!!) the nerve! i told him i would think about it and said, "I can just go into any tmobile store and cancel it right?"

then i called back later and got a little better deal from someone else... (this time i sounded more upset)
[myTouch 4G General] bookem1:
I have been with them since they were omnipoint! They always take care of me when I re up my contract.
[myTouch 4G General] VibrantOwnr:
they will probably match it. i got them to match wirefly for 149.99
[myTouch 4G General] PolishDude:
Thats a great deal, I wish I did that, when you returned your vibrant 3 times did you do it through tmobile? I returned mine 3 times as well but i did it through costco since I had a 90 day return policy so would get them same day, problem is, it doesnt show in T-Mobiles system when you do that :(
[myTouch 4G General] Lockeskidney:
yea this really hints at issues related to buying 3rd party. Things like this dont show up on Tmo system. Buying direct shows them you are having issues with a particular phone so if things go sour you have a bargaining tool
[myTouch 4G General] halfcalf:
Tmobile is charging $20 a month more for the unlimited plan with a 2 year contract than the non contract plan, the only advantage of being in contract is the discount on the phone. If you pay $200 for the phone, plus sign up at the monthly plan rate they are trying to change you to you end up paying $680 for what tmobile is calling a $450 phone. I work in customer service, i dont like to complain but i also dont like over paying

besides, $150 for the phone isnt greedy, its matching the wirefly price
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
Well said.

And I got it for $99 without asking for a lower price for the phone - the customer service rep just offered it. I asked her to repeat it because i was not sure I heard it correctly - lol!
[myTouch 4G General] Cuda1337:
With a contract you save 250 on the phone initially, plus you're eligible for discounts after 12 months on a new phone. Most purple don't keep their phones for 24 months. You are also eligible for corporate discounts on your monthly bill which range from 6 to 15% off your monthly bill, non contact plans aren't eligible for that.

Besides if the math was so much in favor of no contact just switch to that. No need to wasn't to have your came and eat it too.

As for the phone price matching wirefly, tmobile doesnt match them and shouldnt. They take a loss on the phone because tmobile pays them a lot of money to activate.

And once again, if you want the phone at wireflys price, order it from them. They are cheaper for a reason, im sure youll realize why real quick if you buy from them.
[myTouch 4G General] vikramdhani:
I think everyone in here needs to chill and respect each other
[myTouch 4G General] motorjonny:
I think this video should settle this argument.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[myTouch 4G General] halfcalf:
Hahaha, who can argue with that! I need to start paying more attention to my shadow, i never knew they could look so cool!
[myTouch 4G General] Gr8gorilla:
I too am getting my MyTouch 4G to replace my Vibrant tomorrow and I have 7 days to return the Vibrant after I get the MyTouch. I would double check because I have seen some people get screwed.

Good luck though. I hope this phone is better than the Vibrant. Overall I was very disappointed in it. The screen is nice, almost good enough to get me to keep it, almost.
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
Well ****, the best i was able to get out of retention was $147 up front, plus $40/month x3.

I called back and spoke to someone else and was told the same thing. They basically are giving me the full upgrade discount. I'm not really happy with that, what if i was already at my full upgrade? Would they just tell me to eat ****?
[myTouch 4G General] stevew84:
How long have you been a tmobile member?
[myTouch 4G General] e-wrecked:
A year and a half..never been under contract. Had an iPhone that I brought with me to tmo.
[myTouch 4G General] flyingmedic:
How about free? Course I did, or rather will, eventually, send them my Vibrant back.

Other than that, it was a straight swap, and I bought my vibrant the day it was released at a brick and mortar store.

My VAST experience with Loyalty (actually retentions dept.) is that it VERY much matters WHO you get on the phone. Persistence will pay off in the end though :)
[myTouch 4G General] flyingmedic:
I myself find it very hard to believe that they will let you keep the Vibrant. Oh, I know it will LOOK like they let you, they'll charge you for the phone then immediately take it off of your bill..........until the 31st day after your new phone is delivered to you, and IF they haven't received your Vibrant, you can bet, you'll be charged the full retail price of the phone. Been there, done that. :( G'luck tho....
[myTouch 4G General] flyingmedic:
It's from wirefly.com

Nothing to do with TMO at all.
[myTouch 4G General] markjnj:
Hey all I'm new here, and was going to pick up the mytouch 4g in a few. I have an 500 min, talk, text and web even more plus plan paying 59.99. are any of you on the same plan and was able to get the price you got? or did you all have to sign a 2 yr contract for a higher price? I'm wondering if it would benefit me to call retentions? I've been w/tmobile since 2004. Thanks for your help!
[myTouch 4G General] halfcalf:
Most of the people this thread including myself have been able to keep the same plans that are no longer available by calling tmobile.
[myTouch 4G General] Whosdaman:
Thread cleaned, if another flame war happens again, people might be banned.

Korey
[myTouch 4G General] gaww:
TMo has only been going after the Data Plans - not the calling plans. If your data plan is less then their "android" plan for $30/month - you may run into this issue with them - be careful.

PS - as I was writing this, my $99 retention department MT4G showed up from UPS - have start playing with it now.

A bit worrisome - the retention department shipping was in a very small box with no packing materials (bubble wrap, foam, etc.). Check your packaging and phone carefully if it arrives this way - not protected from being dropped very well.

FYI - it shows up with a carrying case (for everything), which are a plug adapter, USB cable (for the adapter and computer hookup), and earphones. The battery is in the divide. The case did have rubber packing for the device though, so it is somewhat protected for shipping.

No user manual (only quick start), but a thick Terms & Conditions, Return Policy, Limited Warranty Book.
[myTouch 4G General] markjnj:
I guess calling retention may not benefit me since I'm on the new even more plus plan...If anyone has this play and was able to get a discount through retention please post. Otherwise I'll just head over to the tmobile store tonight and buy it off contract. Thanks guys.
[myTouch 4G General] PolishDude:
well if you had problems with your pervious phone they may change it out for you
[myTouch 4G General] gatesmarch123:
I tried this a month ago. Told them my moto cliq was a p.o.s, and wanted to upgrade to a vibrant; att was going to sell me a Galaxy S for $99. The guy was like"Well I'm sorry about that but the best we can do is 300 for a Vibrant, also do you realize we are way better than att? I said if my phone sucks balls where is the pleasure in using your services. Cancel my account if you can't do any better...and he did ! That was the worst retention session I've ever had.

(I called and reactivated the following day :D )