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[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Rydah:
It does all that the "pink" one does, just in an Evo friendly environment. ;)

This is a question, please post ANY questions in the Q&A section if the whole point is to ask a question. Thanks.

Sent From My HTC Evo 4G Using Tapa Talk Pro!
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Hey people,hows it going?

I have decided to create this thread to help people who arent very happy with their battery life pre/after the 2.1 update.

Aighty guys lets see : The improvements in 2.1 are VERY awesome if you combine it with things to make it total ownage.

Battery Life : Mine lasts 12h with very heavy usage, without usage it can last more than 48h...

Updated since sunday night so i got more than enough experience with it.

If you got bad battery life you can do followings :

1)Root + SetCPU : Lower the "Minimum" quantity so the CPU would idle very lowly and so you get more battery life ,i reccomend getting 245 there (This phase can be dangerous,if you dont know what you're doing ,skip this one)

2)Use Task Manager Pro : Shut down apps that eat the RAM, those who say "unused ram is wasted" , imo thats false as if you got more ram free : More battery life,better phone usage,less lags,and more space in case updates of twitter/fb etc come on ,i usually got around 105mb free always left (Excluded updates for social's & news & weather,live wall,android apps and stuff that i really need)

3)Still not fixed? Get a Battery-life-saver launcher and replace the Home one,as SE didnt work 2.1's home to good so its laggy and battery-eater.

4)Widgets?Have you got loads of news/updates widgets or apps? Try to lower the "Update rate", facebook updates as default each 5 mins,set it to around 2h or so,you dont need less than that.

5)Still pittyful? Check how much you use it, if i use my phone alot i get maybe less than 12h of battery life, but if you use it just the necesary trust me,you can get up to 3 days straight.

Battery life also depends on how much you use it.

5.1)Games specially can use loads of battery,so if you get a use of about 25% in 1 hour,thats very good battery life,so its normal.

5.2)Temperatures in battery can also go upper as you use it ,cause apps and your hand behind the phone cause heat,so you're alright if temp go up to 45ºC,which would be the safe limits. I would panic if it went up to 50ºC.

6)If you have just updated to 2.1 leave it a few days,it is quite bad at first as the system needs to update all its settings ,all its new stuff,just like when you install a new OS on a computer,it needs to "Start windows for the first time".

7)If its still very bad,then your battery might be damaged,get a new one and remember that the first 2-3 charges to take at least 8h,to make sure its lifespan is gonna be high.

In conclusion : Dont just say "My battery life sucks now", Battery depends on how much you use the phone,on how much your apps/timescape/mediascape/Social feeds/News feeds use your phone as much as gps/wifi/bluetooth of it.

Check everything you can,do everything i said and then see if ur battery is damaged or not,cause the 2.1 system didnt do worse,it actually did better than 1.6 after its perfectly settled.

Hope this helps out,take care ^

Regards
[XPERIA X10 General] thran8:
very good writeup, which launcher do you recommend?
[XPERIA X10 General] law910:
in regards to this i believe you but it's just not happening to me

please suggest something.

my battery is awesome on standby....but as soon as i turn screen on and play for eg angry birds for 1hr it drops approx 25%. is that how it should be?

no wifi bluetooth gps etc. live wallpaper is there but i also try w/o live wallpaper. i use task killer and kill off unnecessary things

the only thing i haven't done is root and reduce cpu speed because the phone should work quite well w/o me having to do that.

My temp goes up to 43 at times. is that normal?

what am i doing wrong?
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
So far , LauncherPro did a very good job for me,there are loads of stuff you can tweak there like even from 3 to 7 homescreens, as you wish,the less the more battery so,depends on which you wish,you can select.

Also Helix Launcher is very famous for beeing able to save battery alot, tho it hasnt got so many options like LauncherPro.

If its very good battery life your searching : Helix Launcher

If you're looking for a good balanced launcher : LauncherPro

Goodluck.
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
25% in a hour after playing? Yes that is normal as games stress the CPU and screen brightness to max, so yes after gaming the battery does suffer a bit.

Nah if you dont want dont reduce cpu min speed.

Imo ,charge the phone completely , then right after charging , play Angry birds for 1h again and check battery. Sometimes the battery discharges faster than other times (Depends on the charge of it, if its @ 95% it will go down alot faster,unlike if its at 30%,it will go down slower. Its just a battery theory that is accurate most of the time)

So check from what % you started playing to what % you've stopped playing.

Tell me the results then.

And then i repeat,make sure you reduce facebook/twitter/email "update rate".

(More time(once in 2h not in each 5 mins) = Better cause it will access the internet less so more battery)
[XPERIA X10 General] Cebees:
I used to support it, till I opened my mind to those theories, so now I argued. With many reading and my own experiment, I would still argue that droid are doing best it could.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=777034

With my summary, without ATK could result in even better battery life.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=678205&page=10

Some technical statement about android memory.

HOWEVER,

To correct your statement, it's TRUE that leaving more processes behind could result in significant drain of battery, but this is due to CPU usage, not RAM.

So yes, Leaving some process which draining CPU power behind could give much worse battery life.

So IMO, it more depends on your background process, but I would say that in most situation, just leave the droid do its job

You don't need that any longer. But it's true that the lifespan could be 'higher' after a few usage, but this is due to 'calibration', not the performance of the battery itself.

Imagine

real battery is 10%, android report 3%

real battery is 90%, android report 100%

so you are using only 10% to 90%, that considered 20% lose.
[XPERIA X10 General] deconfrost:
Li-po batteries ain't meant to be drain to the last, if you do thy won't last and you soon be needing to replace your battery, I would think that it is programmed to monitor the usage to not do that but the battery % that you see is not actually whats left on the battery itself.
[XPERIA X10 General] Herr Noobien:
I was reading a pdf ebook and the battery dropped around 35% in 2 hours :S

I'm running the battery test in the service menu at the moment to see if my battery is faulty.
[XPERIA X10 General] nihonjintaylor:
I don't use a manager - i don't use setCpu and I can easily get 24 hours + since 2.1

I'm just saying :).
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
I stream music from di.fm using wifi 8h/day.

My phone lasts about 4h :) so, i have to charge it 3 times/day :D

Now, i want to see tips how to improve this :D
[XPERIA X10 General] law910:
good idea never knew battery test existed in the service menu =]

shall try it tonight
[XPERIA X10 General] solo13:
just have a look on the attached photo , i took the photo when the indicator was 15% , still i can ran the phone for another 2 or 3 hours .
[XPERIA X10 General] _calum_:
I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that the display chews through more battery than before.

Could be that I'm playing games too much ;) but I don't think so. I seem to get the same battery life on idle, but as soon as I do anything (esp. games or talking) the battery just seems to nosedive. Never noticed this before (I used to get two-three days depending on the usage now I'm down to a day or two).

I'm gonna try and do some tests over the next while (starting with flashing back to 1.6 and retesting that properly).
[XPERIA X10 General] gtrab:
tipically, display (screen) accounts for 2/3s of the total battery usage

check the battery usage app (settings -> battery), you'll be amazed

then make a simple test:

reduce brightness by half and your battery will last A LOT longer

Personaly, I prefer to carry my charger than dimming the screen :D

.
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Back,soz my internet crashed -_-

And true,the Screen uses 2/3 or even more, everytime i check it sucks around 75% or so if you use it alot.

Also @Cebees Yes thats true,thats why i sugested a task manager :p Cutting processes cleans ram memory but also cleans cpu usage.

True you can let the droid do its things but most of the time its not Droid who is eating the battery to death,its 3rd party apps which remain On even after usage (Like when you select a live wall and then change it,the other remains on and some walls arent very good optimized so ...if 1 Live-wall eats a bit of battery,imagine 3 or 4 ?)

Also : Gaming / GPS navigation And Wifi Navigating are the main and most power hungry tasks for a phone to do,so its normal that if you're doing any of those,the battery lasts like nothing.

One Tip : Always take ur charger with you :p Also take the MicroUSB->USB cable off your charger and use it while your in your car (Buy a Cigarette->USB adaptor,costs less than 10 quid) and then you can charge it while you're in your/your dad's car, that way you'll maintain the battery a bit more alive.

Also if you really think your battery just isnt up for your needs, there is a 3600mAh (Think its Called Mugen 3600 or smth)battery out there for the X10,it is kinda bulky but it doubles and some times even more the life of the normal 1500mAh Stock battery.

Btw,if you want to buy a new battery and a 3600mAh one is too expensive,try to get a 2000+ one...as there was tested that up to 1800mAh arent exactly Shiny,just a very slight (Minutes)improvement over the stock 1500mAh one.

As you can see,there's loads of things that can cause a battery life to be poor :p

So keep on trying ^^ Im sure it will all go great.

I charged mine yesterday at morning,and i still got 67% Today,so i believe i can manage a total of 3 days straight ...and i did eventually use my phone to listen to music,put some live walls and make some calls.

Also trust me...the Launcher does make a diference,specially if you get the Helix one...i used it and my battery used to manage up to almost 5 days straight (With little use).

Oh and @Cebees : I know that the 8hour thing isnt exactly necesary today , but eventhought they say its not ,i believe i've been told by someone who knows about this that its good for the battery to be totally maxed in the first charges and then left to total emptyness(if possible until phone shuts down or is about to) that way it does calibrate (As you said before) and it does also maximise its life (Technically,i could be wrong , but my always done that with my wife's and daughter's phone and they always worked like a charm and trust me ,my daughter cant get her hands off her phone -_-)

Regards
[XPERIA X10 General] lawless_benji:
Something bothers me here. During your intro, you say with "very heavy" usage, you get 24 hours battery. Then. In step 5, you say that if you use your phone alot, you get maybe less than 12 hours usage. I dont get it. :-S
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
lol ups,yeah the 24h thing is a mistake,ima correct that.

Thanks ^
[XPERIA X10 General] lawless_benji:
Cool! No problem!
[XPERIA X10 General] Swishaa:
My battery life got worse on 2.1.

On 1.6 I would unplug my phone at 6:20 am and listen to music for an hour then I would mess with my phone a little bit between 7:20 and 2:15. Then after that I would listen to music for another hour while surfing facebook. By time I get home at 3:20 I'm down to 60 percent. But if I do that on 2.1 by time I get home I'll be at 30 percent. Also I have juice defender ultimate that shuts off my 3g everytime the screen is off.
[XPERIA X10 General] Cebees:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/autokiller-memory-optimizer/com.rs.autokiller

I'd prefer this one rather than auto task killer :)

a bit friendly for droid, except chuck norris one. :p
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Hmm yeah but uhh,how much time you got 2.1 on? It takes a few days (2 or 3)to permanently settle and then ur battery life will improve.

And use Task Manager Pro, trust me ,it will do the job.
[XPERIA X10 General] MxCraft:
Mine lasts more than 2 days in moderate use. I've just uninstall moxier mail, disable 3G and use 2G when I don't use my phone. With the new connection widget you can switch easily between 2G/3G. I'm also using ADW instead of the stock home.

With heavy use the battery lasts 12h.
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Great job,those are good results mate.
[XPERIA X10 General] law910:
ok this is weird.... i fully charged i played angry birds for 50 min and its at 79% is this normal?

i have launcherpro 5 screens

widgets, timescape, facebook, claander, google search, weather channel data, recent call, power switch, home page and status switch

task killer kills everything else. and i use live wallpapers

phone at 40 degrees..

is it supposed to get this warm?
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Sup mate (Soz for late answering,my internet at home crashed and im waiting for a technician to fix it (tuesday) but uhh,yeah its normal to go up to 40º with high usage and high power consumption...as your hand could also be touching it in the back so it would get even more warmer....imo up to 45ºC you're safe,its good enough.

Also 1h of Angry birds = 21% battery consumption : Yes thats normal, games use the phone's cpu and memory at max.

Also depends on the game , Angry birds consumes battery with an average mark,but other games like NFS Shift ..meh after playing for one hour i was down to 70% ,so thats a big powersucker.

Also you do have loads of Widgets and Live, so yes ,tbh you're getting quite good battery life takeing in fact all you got on at the same time.
[XPERIA X10 General] akinaStarz:
uh...

i have a problem here..

normally, i charging my phone and it get full charge around 2-3 hours..

but yesterday, i charge my phone and i go to sleep..

when i wake up, the charge level only at 66%..

it's kindda weird..

any solutions on this instead buying a new battery?
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Hmm i have also experienced that a week ago or smth..i just used it until 10%,then rebooted it and then putted it to charge again(8hours as i slept),and it worked back to 100% charge.

Wierd thing i must say...got no idea whats it on about ><.

Try what i said,it worked for me.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Not to mention the screen being on the entire time a game is being played. 21% is incredibly normal. No phone would do much better, not even the iPhone 4.
[XPERIA X10 General] akinaStarz:
ok dude..

i will try your advice..

thanks for the advice..
[XPERIA X10 General] gunawan-1:
As long as i know, 2.1 need more time for charging. But today happen something funny. I charge the phone and in the middle of the process, the charging freeze. Not the phone. The phone heat up. But the indicator and the power no increase. So I reboot the phone and plug on the charher again. And it works as usual again.

So. What is the conclusion or answer for boosting the battery?

Thanks.
[XPERIA X10 General] gunawan-1:
Anyone ever try XDA SUPER POWER? try it in market
[XPERIA X10 General] law910:
thanks buddy. =] I noticed that listening to music using mediascape and bluetooth has improved alot. used to drop form 100% to 91% ish ... now its only 95%

and wth does the battery test in the service menu do? I left it in the testing mode for hours and its just a white screen with no report.... are we suppose to charge it whilst testing or unplug it? I left it unpluged.... and eventually battery almost died which is expected....

****

on a a side note... what email app do you use? mine cannot sync hotmail folders. NONE that i've tried can... very annoying ><"
[XPERIA X10 General] gunawan-1:
Try k9 or shangmail. I use Shangmail myself. It is more simple and does the job. Real push email
[XPERIA X10 General] law910:
thanks for the advice. i've tried k9 and just dl'd shangmail. netierh of them let me sync hotmail folders unless i'm doing something wrong...

any other advice?
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Umm you can just use timescape :p im using timescape and hotmail and it works like a charm,you just need to configure it manually and correctly :

In Pop3 part its :

Id : youremail@here.com

server : pop3.live.com

security : SSL (Always)

And in SMTp part :

ID : Youremail@here.com (again)

server:smtp.live.com

security : TLS (If available)

And it should work perfectly.

PS:"Youremail@here.com" <-- means you should put your email there :p not just the ID or anything,the entire email.

PS2: Leave the ports alone,they will auto-change themselfs when you select SSL and TLS

PS3:Not im not saying PlayStation,PlayStation2 and PlayStation3 XD

PS4:Remember that if you use Timescape,to Exclude it and its plug-ins/add-on's if your using a task manager/killer. So that it sync's everything with Email/Facebook/Twitter.

Regards ^^
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Hmm,i guess errors can happen just like in a computer os(HD Smartphones use similar OS's just more compact) ,but yeah a reboot usually solves everything.

As for the charging time,yeah it does take a bit more than 1.6 at first but atm,i can reach from 15% to 100% in less than 2hours.

So give it some time to settle XD
[XPERIA X10 General] law910:
thanks for that but are you using folders in hotmail?? can you see and sync them?? I use and have many different folders in my hotmail account. that is my major problem. i can veiw and sync inbox with all apps i need folders
[XPERIA X10 General] LethalCorpse:
http://www.sirslur.com/2010/09/01/hotmail-has-imap-and-works-on-iphone/
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Oh folders,umm no i dont have any and i can see your issue >< i dont think there are many programs that can sync other folders rather than inbox and outbox.

There is one though that my wife is using called "Exchange" just make sure your OS is 2.X, (That you updated to 2.1 :p)

To set it use these settings :

Server: m.hotmail.com

Username: your email for exemple : jamesblashburg@hotmail.com

Domain: leave this blank

SSL: Enable this/use always

Certificate: SSL

Goodluck
[XPERIA X10 General] law910:
thanks guys. as for the seeting for the link...i cant select 'exchange' which mail app are they referring to? iread on another thread..is this a 2.2 setting only??

As for the app called 'exchange' is it on the market? coudln't quite find it. there was one called 'exchange for android 2.x' is this the one you were referring to? the 30day trial one?
[XPERIA X10 General] copperdawgnc:
Power Tutor

Sorry wrong forum
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Yep its "Exchange for android 2.x" ,and yeh its not free,you gotta buy it,which is if im not wrong around 15 euros or so...dunno for sure.

Not cheap true but well :p its just a hint XD
[XPERIA X10 General] LethalCorpse:
Ehm....I was pretty sure android handled exchange servers out of the box, but I just checked and it only had pop3 and imap in the default client. I reckon moxier probably has exchange support, but I just rooted and deleted that. Have a look.
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Hmm i never tried Moxier (Did the same,rooted and deleted it plus loads of other junk apps).

So law910,try Moxier,who knows maybe it works.
[XPERIA X10 General] iridaki:
Moxier works very well with Exchange and if you set it to update in 1-2 hours the battery drain is minimum. Certainly not as much as this app has been accused! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Ah, thanks for the info :p

So law910,there you go ^^.

Besides now i also know if i ever use folders,moxier is the solution :p
[XPERIA X10 General] law910:
YOU LEGEND!!!!

don't know how much to tank you guys!!! it's been the downside of Android for the past 6 months!!!!

thank you so much....

it never use to work for hotmail? i think this is a new thing hotmail enacted? right?
[HD7 General] digime:
Don't want to tempt anyone here but I've just noticed that unlocked HD7s are selling on ebay for between £400 and £550 a pop.

Crazy. Why would you pay that? Have these people never heard of using a shop? Or at least checking the going rate online.
[HD7 General] lumpaywk:
I saw this its so crazy if i had the upfront cash i would so get in on that.
[HD7 General] ElysiumY2K:
It's that price on eBay because:

1. It's only release in europe at the moment

2. US people can't be bothered to wait and usually order from overseas

3. It's unlocked

Main 3 factors which bumps up the prices.
[HD7 General] digime:
That does explain some of the sales but plenty of sellers say they won't ship outside of the UK.

I checked some of the inflated completions and a lot of them seem to be bought by bidders with zero feedback. Something funny going on there.
[HD7 General] ElysiumY2K:
Yea the zero feedbacks do sound a bit dodgy...

But with the ones that ain't shipping out of UK, it's unlocked, so people will pay anything just to put their Vodafone/Orange/Tmobile sim in it.

What i don't get is that you can do it yourself if you just buy it from O2. Learning how to unlock it will take like 15minutes for a newbie.
[HD7 General] digime:
Indeed.

For the zero bid ebay buys I wonder if it's a way of making a product look more expensive than it really is. People probably decide on what's a bargain partly based on how much stuff tends to sell for.

So, if you flood the place with extortionately priced handsets and create ebay IDs to buy them people will presume that's the going rate and be willing to shell out more.

If an item sells then great. You go out to O2, buy one, unlock it and put in post to buyer. If it looks like it won't sell you use a fake ID to make it look like it sold and later get your advertising money back due to 'buyer' not sending payment.

Devious if true.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] DR_MOOSAVI:
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Samsung I8700 Windows 7 Phone DIRECT UNLOCK

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[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] athompson:
Now all we need is a jailbreak.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] malgaine:
more information here:

forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f452/sptbox-deluxe-9-9-7-released-1133092

download the program (Sptbox deluxe 9.9.7) here:

multiupload.com/HZ1531ZQRL
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] enjoythemusic:
i just call ATT and tell them i travel worldwide (which i do) and need it unlocked to use overseas SIM. Usually 10 minutes later they call me with the unlock code free.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] psynaut:
Just downloaded from multiupload.com/HZ1531ZQRL and MS Security essentials blocked it with a virus warning.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] techdave:
Does this unlock the MMS-locking by the carriers as well?

http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/7834506f-c60d-4eb6-b04a-9829131922ee
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] desolateone1:
This wouldn't happen to work with the at&t focus, would it?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] orb3000:
Thanks for sharing!
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Erwan960:
Kaspersky too : packed.win32.black.a

But it seems not to be a problem :

The Packed.Win32.Black.a detection identifies files that are packed with a stolen version of the Themida software protection program.

Stolen versions of this program (which are usable with leaked licenses) can be used to hide malware. Identifying a file that has been packed by a stolen version is therefore a precautionary measure against potentially malicious files.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] megagprime:
Poops weak
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] bigfoune:
thx great job
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] bigfoune:
it doesn' t work on ..there is an error ..:confused:
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Magyrato:
Does this not work on Windows 7? I am having the same "Smart card resource manager is not running" error as above.