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[Nexus One General] t0mmy:
OK, I haven't posted in a while so here's a fairly basic tutorial for everyone and hopefully this thread can atleast spark some valuable ideas for everyone.

So we all have nexus ones here, and based on the unique sales strategy of the nexus, I would guess almost all of us have extra phones just laying around lol (I, for example, have a G1 that was basically just a paperweight).

What I did was sign up for an extra line with no contract (t-mobile), no data, no texts, and the minimum amount of minutes possible. This cost me an extra petty $30/month, obviously only a dollar a day which is nothing..

Advantages of this:

You now will be walking around with two phones like a boss lol.. Imagine walking into a restaurant/bar and when you empty your pockets and go to set down your phone, it's actually both phones. In my case, I actually use the other line as a business line, just call up your carrier and ask them to change the caller i.d. name to your business name. Your extra phone is basically a fully functional phone, just because you also have a nexus one. The wifi hotspot on our nexus is critical here. We now have internet, emails, and text (with gtalk? I'm not sure because I only text on my main line). You don't have to ever worry about a wifi because you will always have your main phone, the nexus, in your other pocket.

Disadvantages of this:

Nothing, besides paying an extra dollar a day lol

Bring on the responses :P
[Nexus One General] sl8125:
Huh I don't understand why do I need a second line?
[Nexus One General] erikiksaz:
:confused:

Paying an extra 30 dollars a month for another phone that you don't really need?
[Nexus One General] t0mmy:
I see what you're saying here but you gotta weigh out the variables
[Nexus One General] leyvatron:
you can also use google voice and save those 30bucks.

or

you can upgrade your plan with those 30 bucks.
[Nexus One General] Mokurex:
I don't get it...
[Nexus One General] khaytsus:
I guess he doesn't realize that the Nexus One can be used to talk on. I too am guilty here to a degree, I have talked on mine perhaps 2 hours since I got it.

Otherwise, pass the crackpipe dude.
[Nexus One General] sstang2006:
This tutorial actually made for this two guys:
[Nexus One General] sl8125:
Puff puff pass :-)
[Nexus One General] t0mmy:
I started this thread to spark new ideas for other nexus owners across the country
[Nexus One General] twflys:
Actually your plan would only cost me more money- perhaps I am missing the BIG picture.
[Nexus One General] norazi:
i like my plan better... 1000min + unlimited txt for $49 + tzones for $4.99 = $55 for 1000min,, unlimited txt, unlimited 3G data... been usingin it for 2 yrs no with no contract
[Nexus One General] electronicrice:
I guess I don't understand why someone would shell out an additional $30 a month to carry around two phones? The Nexus already makes calls and has data, why do you need another phone to do the same thing? To look like a boss? Instead of sharing internet to the second phone, why not just browse on your Nexus? What's the point of this thread? So many questions...
[Nexus One General] teh_lorax:
How high do I need to be to understand this thread?
[Nexus One General] peliROJO:
I understand what he's saying, get a second voice line, and be a cheapskate about the data. but if you want to look like a true boss, you lay two iPhone 4's on the table. and you pay $100/month for each. not a N1 and G1. geez!

And I bet nobody calls you on your business phone. Just saying.
[Nexus One General] t0mmy:
The g1 was just an example because I had an extra one that was just sitting around.. Paying an extra measly one dollar a day is worth it to me to go from one fully functional phone to two, even if I hardly use the other one lol.

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
*read thread*

wtf

*looks at avatar*

oh
[Nexus One General] erikiksaz:
Paying an extra $360 dollars a year for something you don't need is kinda silly, unless you like to blow money on random things.

Hell, I can think of many things I'd rather put $360 towards.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
To everyone who's confused:

The OP is trying to make a joke (which sadly failed horribly).

I guess it's funny to him, which is all that matters, /shrug.

How? Are you a T-Mobile employee?

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Anyway: a better alternative that *everyone should do*:

A) Use Google Voice for free texting.

B) Buy a Gizmo5 account for $10 on ebay and set up free VoiP (works on 3G and Wifi), and tie it to your Google Voice number. This gives you unlimited minutes so you can downgrade your plan to the lowest amount.

The entire process takes about 10 minutes to set-up. I did it last week; it's very easy and works extremely well.

Link: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8813244&postcount=18​
[Nexus One General] smachine:
Anyway: a better alternative that *everyone should do*:

A) Use Google Voice for free texting.

B) Buy a Gizmo5 account for $10 on ebay and set up free VoiP (works on 3G and Wifi), and tie it to your Google Voice number. This gives you unlimited minutes so you can downgrade your plan to the lowest amount.

The entire process takes about 10 minutes to set-up. I did it last week; it's very easy and works extremely well.

Link: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8813244&postcount=18​

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Yea this is what i have setup. I pay $25 a month each for 4 N1s on a family 1500 min even more plus plan (no contract) and $10 web2go data, blocked texting (use only google voice). If you just need a single line you can get a 500 minute plan for $29.99 and add the $10 web2go unlimited web for a total of $39.99 a month and no contract. All you have to do is change APN settings. This plan will expire before november 3, so those interested should jump on it today
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
Thank the stars Paul didn't end up going with a G2!

Was def confused before this post ;)
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
A) How do you find / sign up for the web2go plan? Do you have to call in and convince them you want this plan?

B) How do you know it is expiring? Is there a webpage somewhere? I would love to read more / see the fine print of this.

Haha yes. Looks like I just had new-phone-envy but after handling a G2 in real life, all my enthusiasm for the N1 came right back :cool: I actually find it kind of funny they're still having so much trouble rooting the G2. Glad I didn't switch; there's so many things I do that need root :cool:
[Nexus One General] t0mmy:
This is why I made this thread, for us to share ideas that can maximizing the value of our plans.. Nice info man
[Nexus One General] peliROJO:
And what phone do you tell them you have? T-Mobile hasn't supported me and my Nexus One problems since I got it. They've never been like this with other non-branded phones, but they say the Nexus is different because of an agreement with Google. Well that blows.

So, I would prefer to tell them I'm on a different phone and go back to a cheap data plan like everyone seems to be using. But I like my phone number, and won't change. And I still need text messaging. I have Google Voice intercept my voicemail but I won't be using it for texting if I have to distribute a new telephone number.

/Abrupt ending
[Nexus One General] kolyan:
this thread is gay
[Nexus One General] izmar:
It's so clear to me.... Now I can carry two phones at once.

Not only will I get more women (from their noticing of my current economic status), but I will be able to call twice as many women to make up for all the women who will be wanting me.
[Nexus One General] donutman:
Ok, I think I smoke enough OG Kush to understand the OP. To sum it up, the whole point of his tutorial is to look like a boss with two phones. Yes, you're paying an extra 30 per month for boss like appearances.
[Nexus One General] smachine:
Well im assuming its expiring because once tmobile rolls out the new tiered 200mb/unlimited data plan all the old plans wont be offered anymore. I recently signed up with tmobile plan and chose the minute plan i wanted. Then the internet plan was under services and was called something like "unlimited web for phones" its $9.99. It only works on unbranded phones like the nexus one, nokia n900, nokia nuron etc. You can add it on also if you already have tmobile service, go to your account settings. Only thing you have to do is set your device in your account settings as being a dumbphone (i put i was using a razr).
[Nexus One General] :
Easiest way is to sign into you t-mo account and choose any non smartphone plan as your device. Then you will see the $10 dollar plan under services.

Use the LG Sentio, it's one of the phones that allows the $10 plan.

You could do all that by phone and customer service, but it's easier online.

When new data plans are introduced the older ones are tossed into grandfathered land. It's been known for a good while T-mo is introducing two or three new data plans for non android phones.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
A) Will this work if I'm still under contract? My 2-year contract ends in March. I wonder if I will get charged ETF and/or $35 switching fee?

B) Also, did you do Even More Plus (non-contract) or Even More (contract)? The 500 minute no-contract plan is $29.99, and 500 minute contract plan is $39.99.

[Edit]: C) What happens if you bought a new phone (say the G2) and put the SIM in there? Would they be able to find out and then back-charge you for using web2go?
[Nexus One General] :
Adding/removing a service doesn't alter your contract unless that service was added during contract signing.

As soon as you use a new phone the imei get's sent to t-mo. If the imei is one of theirs they can force the android plan on you. Other wise you're good.

In your case(g2) you won't be able to trick the system into the $10 plan. You'll just get an "upgrade to new data plan" webpage redirect from the browser.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Ignore this...
[Nexus One General] ryan22158:
I sell my old tech stuff. I had a G1 and then sold it to my sister. I had a zune 8 gb, sold it to my sister. I had a zune 80 gb sold it to my sister. Had a laptop sold it to my sister! :) My Nexus is going to my mom in Jan. when I leave for the navy. My parents are buying my computer when I leave. My boss bought my netbook. Why would I need all of this? Sell it and make some money instead of making it cost YOU money. Over all the only thing that actually cost me money, I bought of of this in the past year, is my Nexus. Everything else was used for 4 months and then sold for about 30 bucks under cost. I am selling my desktop at cost to my parents. I would rather break even with my old tech than make it cost me money.

I'm a cheap ass, and I can't be helped :)
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Well, yes, I'd be removing both the voice and data plan that I signed up with initially on T-Mobile. Would there still be no problems/ETFs removing these?

Also, how soon does the pricing change? Would it change immediately or after my contract ends (March)?
[Nexus One General] :
Web2go/tzones/android/smartphone are all add-on services in addition to a voice plan.

If you want a data only plan you have to fork out $40, that'll get you a sim card and no voice/data.

You can't just get an add on service by itself.

As for removing your original plan, you'll get pinged for the ETF when you cancel them as that's what the contract was signed for.

Pricing can be immediate, or latent(start of new cycle), that's up to you.
[Nexus One General] teh_lorax:
Be honest: How's the call quality? I set something like this up about 6 months ago, only to be COMPLETELY disappointed with the call quality.

And isn't texting over Google Voice confusing as ****? I seem to remember reading that everyone comes across as a different number or something?
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
A) Call quality was perfectly fine. The other person had no idea I was on VoiP. I get 0-1 bars (-100 dB or worse) in my apartment, so this is a billion times better.

The only issue was once I didn't hear anything for a few seconds, and then all the audio came through sped up (chipmunks-style). It was kinda funny :D I guess my internet just had a hiccup or something. Disclaimer: my wireless router was 10 feet away from me so 100% wifi strength.

B) Huh? It looks like a normal phone number. Go to www.google.com/voice on your computer and text your cell phone number. It should look completely normal. I'm not sure what you mean by confusing :confused:
[Nexus One General] pokey9000:
Challenge accepted.

Problem: Phone cases are ugly.

Assumptions: Toast always falls butter side down. Butter is delicious.

Procedure: Butter the back of your phone.

Result: Phone always falls screen side up.
[Nexus One General] ap3604:
Hey Paul just wondering what you use as the SIP app that you direct the google voice calls to?

I was originally using SIPagent but that got converted to 3cxPhone that didn't work as well. I've tried SIPdroid but the audio volume is always so low its hard to hear unless its on speakerphone.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
I just use Sipdroid. I'm sure other apps have more features but this one seems to work just great for me. It was pretty low, but I was at home so not much noise. I used a bluetooth headset (Motorola S305) and that seemed better.
[Nexus One General] xculliber:
Just curious as everyone else might.. why does Sipdroid need my GPS location?
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
No idea; app permissions are quite a bit of a mystery to me.

Anyway, I realized why the audio is so low:

Go into Settings -> Audio/Video -> Earpiece Gain -> set it to Highest. Seems much better after that.

Also, I just noticed that I can't call out; only receive calls. Didn't realize I needed call out credit. I'll need to look into it. Anyway, receiving calls works perfectly fine though -- just used it for another hour tonight :cool:

[Edit]: Woops, I didn't get the Google Voice callback app!
[Nexus One General] inneyeseakay:
Seriously, How does this maximize the value of your current plan?

OP is full of fail...
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
Btw, I made the changes. Looks like it does take effect at the end of my next billing cycle (doh).

And there's no $35 switching fee from Even More to Even More Plus, unless this page is inaccurate and the fee will only show up at the next billing cycle (hate when they do that...).

Pic attached:
[Nexus One General] cwirth7:
my brain fell out reading the OP
[Nexus One General] smachine:
Yea i had that same issue with the audio being too low, increasing the earpiece gain worked like magic. By switching my number to a google voice number has really been great for me. All incoming calls ring through my sipdroid and also my standard tmobile network, by default the sipdroid comes up first on incoming calls and if im in a strong data area i will just answer it through that. If i am outside and only have edge data around me i can press the back button and simply answer it through the tmobile network and once i answer sipdroid stops ringing.
[Nexus One General] datboycuong:
wow what in the diabetes is the point of having two phones? You might as well have extra pair of shoes with you at all times, one for wearing indoors and than another pair for outdoor.

Oh wait, let me carry around another pair of pants so I can look like a clown in front of other people. Also, lets not stop there, let's also carry two laptops so one can be used to look at Facebook and another laptop can be used for Twitter and also, if you have a iPad/iTouch, you can use that to check emails!!! OMGWTFBBQFUN!!

Advantages: You have alot of money to waste and people think you are baller.

Disadvantages: You have alot of money to waste and people think you are a freaking retard for posting something as useless as your post. Good school you went to!!!

LOLFAIL
[Nexus One General] negroplasty:
When I see someone with two cell phones, the word "tool" generally comes to mind. I feel inclined to point out an application named Google Voice.

Use Google Voice to solve your multiple number needs, then you don't look like a tool with a lack of understanding in the tech department.

Not trying to flame you, but I honestly see no advantages to this. Take your $ a day and donate it to those less fortunate, 20% of the world is living in sustenance - think about that when you're done being a boss.
[Nexus One General] Paul22000:
So I tried setting up Google Voice Call Free ( http://www.appbrain.com/app/google-voice-call-free/com.realtynode.gvfree ) but it would never actually call me back no matter what settings I tried.

Then I installed Google Voice Callback FREE ( http://www.appbrain.com/app/google-voice-callback-free/com.xinlu.gvdial ) and it worked immediately.

Tested calling out last night and this morning and it worked flawlessly. Full VoIP calls incoming and outgoing over wifi, hell yeah :D :cool:
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
If you really want to "look like a boss" with two working phones without paying like a boss for two working phones, maybe this will help...

- Get a Gizmo5 or other SIP provider account.

- Install SIP client on crappy G1.

- Tether crappy G1 to awesome N1.

- Make and receive VOIP calls on the G1, while only using the N1's data.

- Profit. No, that doesn't sound quite right. Attract women? Nah, probably not. Look "like a boss"? For shizzle.
[Nexus One General] danger-rat:
I carry around 3 or 4 of those dummy display phones, plus my nexus...
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
I also make use of one of these for good measure. So "boss".

Oh, and I have fake magnetic fender vents on my cars so people think I've got more car than I do.
[Nexus One General] danger-rat:
I got the Ferrari CD for that... XD
[Nexus One General] dc211:
HA HA my thought exactly. Like a boss...
[Nexus One General] t0mmy:
Obviously having two phones is an auto win but after reading these posts I'm thinking stealing a few display phones to make it 3 or 4 might be better?

any thoughts on this?
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
It's all about the all-in-one these days, brother. Google Voice lets you have infinity phones in one - why devolve?
[Nexus One General] t0mmy:
Excellent point brother.. Here's my prob..

I have two phones so that means:

infinity x infinity = * head explodes *
[Nexus One General] codesplice:
Easy fix.

Only carry one. You know, like a sane person. ;-)
[Nexus One General] peliROJO:
I have to carry a work phone, for on-call purposes, however nobody ever calls. nothing breaks. how can i get my company to embrace Google Voice so that I only have to carry my personal cell phone.

btw - having a second phone doesn't make you look boss, people always WTF at it.
[XPERIA X10 General] the_ahmadzais:
How is Mw600? Does it use alot of battery when connected to bluetooth? I wanna use it only to receive calls and nothing else?
[XPERIA X10 General] yodanz:
I can go a week of listening to music (maybe 1-2 hours a day) and the occasional call before needing a recharge.

Hope this helps.
[XPERIA X10 General] frankie99969:
can somebody with 2.1 and mw600 check whether the caller/trck info is displayed?
[XPERIA X10 General] yodanz:
There is another thread under the accessories x10 forum where people are saying it isn't :(
[XPERIA X10 General] watever:
unfortunatley it doesnt
[XPERIA X10 General] Marazao:
Skype doesnt work either to make a call
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xaodxkevin:
I recently flashed to the Cyanogen Nightly 151 rom and I have a swype.apk, but it's different from the one I used to have, looks different and feels a bit different.

Is there any way to get the stock swype back?
[myTouch 3G Slide Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
The Swype from the slide reads some lines from the prop, but the "official" one will work on any rom. I'm not sure if you are actually referring to the Slide's version of swype.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] hypersnap:
I just did the 2.1 update and ofcourse i made an backup of my contacts before i did it. But now when i try to restore them, it runs up to 100% but when i go to contacts there is nothing!?!?

What should i do?

I have the backup SBF file stored on my SD cart if that can help me in any way?

Thanks in advance
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] FastDuck:
I had to turn on gmail sync to allow the restoration of contacts.. Using MyBackup Pro.. Actually the backup app *****es about this when you try to restore contacts.. So after that, you contacts are synced to your google account..

Meep meep...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] hypersnap:
Thanks, it worked :D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] FastDuck:
Klasse =)

Now to root the sucker and start customizing the look and feel... again... :P
[Wildfire General] coolK3N:
from what I understand there's 3 part to the system:

the recovery - the root bit

the rom - the OS

the kernel - the core? between OS and hardware? seem like over clock is in this bit :confused:

is this right?

and so when we root the phone we only replace the recovery bit? or anything more?

And the RUU will restore those 3 parts back to default which will (in action) unroot the phone?

This is just to check my understanding before I root my phone really :D

It's ashamed that we don't have a detailed guide around here...:(
[Wildfire General] a1exander:
Yep, you've got it pretty much right.
[Wildfire General] coolK3N:
Thanks

from wildfire XDA app
[Wildfire General] a1exander:
Just make sure not to flash the official RUU .exe, since there is no root for it yet. Install unrevoked and then flash like CyanogenMod 6. =)
[Wildfire General] coolK3N:
those on http://www.shipped-roms.com/shipped/ are the 'official' RUU right?
[Wildfire General] a1exander:
Yes! If you want to use those, let it go through Android Kitchen first (removes the RUU "non-root" recovery image), but you dont need to know that stuff.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] whats77inaname:
....They have created an app, it's in the market, and it's called the "FCC Mobile Broadband Test". The app "provides consumers with information about the quality and speed of their mobile data connection. Test the upload speed, download speed, and latency of your mobile broadband connection and share your results with a simple email export." It has access to:

Your location

Network communication

Phone calls

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah, no, don't think I'll be installing this one. Who knows what other surreptitious things this app does. Figured everyone else might like to know.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] slyswine:
Doesn't speedtest do the same thing?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] galaxys:
I'll pass on that one...but think there are many big brother apps out there :eek: