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[About XDA developers] egzthunder1:
Hi quicksite,

I just finished going over your opening post and truth be told, I see no problem whatsoever with the use of that term. Does it matter that the term is old? A big part of the English language has, as you correctly pointed out, Latin roots, which are old in the first place. The word is perfectly valid as it is, according to the following sites:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fora

http://oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_us1248326#m_en_us1248326

http://www.britannica.com/bps/dictionary?query=fora

By contrast, your example was pulled out of Wikipedia. Truth be told, if I knew that the term was invalid or outdated, I would have edited the article before it was published. However, this is not the case. It isn't a matter of being old fashioned, conservative, reluctant to change, or anything like that. My writer used a term, which is accepted by all three world standards of the English language (above), and as such I have no problem with that. Likewise, if my writer would have used the word "forums", I would have still accepted it because it is also an acceptable term. Some people may not like the sound of it as you claim, but likewise, you will have people who think that the use of the word forums is not right, or simply doesn't sound right.

As far as your example of "Juiz de Fora", I am sorry but I fail to see how that is relevant to anything. The term is in Portuguese and it is the name of a city. As the member before me pointed out, the term fora means "outside" in Portuguese, but considering that the term we are looking at is in English, it is completely irrelevant.

Last but not least, the whole "iPhone revolutionizing the world" argument... not sure why you used that example as it is a little far fetched (conveys your point, but there are better analogies).

Please don't take this as an attack or anything like that. I am in charge of anything that goes in the Portal (as I edit every article), and because of that, I thought it would be best for me to explain this.
[About XDA developers] Captainkrtek:
+1 on this ez
[About XDA developers] egzthunder1:
I almost forgot to add this. Under your arguments, words and expressions like laughing or "I will be back shortly" would be replaced by LOL and BRB, simply because they are more mainstream. Soon after that, you would have people asking for "cheezeburgerz".
[About XDA developers] stylez:
Lol have to agree with Ez.

I'd put this down to too much time on your hands... maybe could be put to better use since XDA is a *development* Fora :D
[About XDA developers] quicksite:
As usual, all respondents are 2009/2010 -- have almost no sense of XDA culture other than gimme gimme gimme now, 140 tapatalk gotta go, life on the run

send from my implant device
[About XDA developers] quicksite:
Actually it makes perfect sense for those not "on the run with 140 character-count lifedrives"

Quite simply: XDA-devs was founded upon an HTC phone running WM; WM was the prevailing OS for long time; the bulk of the work here for years was focused on things like hard spl and getting hardware and software to do things never intended by the manufacturer -- which made the site great, gave it its reputation, and things churned along. ... Then the iphone came and changed a paradigm. A lot of resistence felt here on this site to the very idea of the iphone, but its influence was undeniable. It was fought and ignored tooth and nail by Ballmer and his old school thinkers tied to the past. Until they were swept in the destbin of history and a new model swept the world with finger-driven interfaces, hardware changes + OTA app store concept which overnight made -- for the mainstream, not the tinkerers at XDA -- WM 6.1 and 6.5 an obsolete concept for app-dev ...

The whole industry shifted around this new model -- and eventually that gravitational force was so strong even old fashioned "We liked out yellow skin" XDA-devs stepped up to the plate, threw out the old, and joined the new --- with a new front page way closer to engadget than old XDA would even have ever dreamed of allowing.

There is nothing obtuse about that analogy at al except for someone purposely being obtuse. It means -- dropping old relics and getting with the times. Nobody is saying "the word isn;t used in the english langauge" -- did I say that? No. I say mainstream. Just as XDA-devs has clearly revamped to appeal more to mainstream and if you doubt that, go have a coffee or beer with svetius, or take a look at that sister site.

I'm not looking for a fight either. I'm just making a strong advocacy point, and i don't like ha;lf-stepping it. There are always going to be little peanut gallery voices who have generally nothing to add other than mockery like "hah hah too much time on hands" like that really refutes or affirms anything. Might as well not post at all. These are just general forums after all . Look how silly it would look if I had said. These are just general fora afterall. People can post what they like.

But it seems rather juvenile and meaningless to bother to post to a thread where you have nothing to add... If anyone has too much time on their hands its someone who posts absolutely nothing of any value, just dittos, and more dittos, just tapping away from tapatalk, because it's so important you see to comment on how stupid the whole topic is. because then you see how smart they are and how ridiculous the poster is.

I think you're pretty silly to post about something you find a waste of time. They do studies about people like that.

But finally, regarding editorial style guides, Okay, I'm all for that. Then would you please, as of today, help make the site editorially consistent, applying your style guide: Here are some places you can start. Oh, it's the portal page, well that's easy, it's under your domain! :) Happy trails one and all !
[About XDA developers] Nitrogenus:
Stirring Up ****e!

Help me with your logic. You mention mainstream and getting with the times, but you also reference culture in a way that would indicate a reverence of past times. You also appear to loathe or hold some angst against the internet community (or people in general) in its present state by your usage of "140 tapatalk gotta go" as if people today do not get it or do not care.

Would we be better served keeping with the times or holding on to our history? On one hand you indicate the former, ("dropping old relics and getting with the times"), yet on the other you cling to the latter ("makes perfect sense for those not on the run with 140 character-count lifedrives" ).

I use forums, but I also accept the use of the word fora. One must always consider audience when speaking or (in this case) writing, so whomever the author considered when composing dictated his or her usage of the particular word currently debated.

Honestly, I do not understand your point. If either usage were incorrect, perhaps I could agree with your stance. Unfortunately, both ARE correct, and as such render your opinion moot. You are still entitled it, however pointless it may be.

-Internet Tough Guy

P.S. Let us be honest. Your iPhone argument is completely illogical. Some (see most) would consider it a logical fallacy. While I can see where you intended to relate your point, it was under served by your misuse of analogy. Also, forum registration date is not indicative of knowledge, experience, or expertise with xda, its history, or its culture (whether past, present, or future).

Wait a minute... Did I just get trolled? Doh.
[About XDA developers] egzthunder1:
You are quoting the wrong person altogether. It wasn't Captainkrtek who said that you could have used a better analogy, it was me. If you would read the whole statement, you would have read that I didn't say that your analogy was wrong. I said it was a long stretch, but never said it was wrong.

Also, I never said that "Forums" was wrong either. What I did say was that "Fora" is a properly used term, and perfectly acceptable from where I stand. There is nothing wrong with using it interchangeably, so as both of these terms are acceptable, I will carry on as I was doing before reading your suggestion.

Finally, the join date has nothing to do with the replies you are getting. I am over 2 years your senior membership-wise, and while my replies are a bit more consistent than a simple "you are wasting your time", I will agree that you put a tremendous amount of effort on something that is not needed.

I am open to suggestions and discussions on things that will improve the Portal. I have never seen or heard of anyone complaining about this in my 5+ years of being a member in multiple fora (not just XDA, but many others as well). So, as this is not a crucial change or anything that will affect the usability or functionality of the site, I will take no action towards this. Thank you for the suggestion.
[About XDA developers] JimmyMcGee:
Man the people who frequent the fora here. :rolleyes:

It seems their flavourite thing to do sometimes is to analyse the colour of the language in an effort to honourably be at the centre of the arguement. Its the internet, people use different language programme than others. :p
[About XDA developers] KCRic:
Wow, what an article. I must say though that I disagree with you. Just because it's the newest item doesn't mean it's what we should go with.

The english language (here in America) is becoming ridiculous to an extreme. To use a term like lol or brb is one thing but when people start typing phrases like 'lol @ u plz hlp me i peez my pnts' all I can say is WTF?? Or when people can't get it through their heads that '@' does not mean 'and' there's a symbol for that - &.

Some businesses are starting to do that stuff "OMG Huge sale, Stp by 2day" and various other forms. Is this what our society is coming to? Do I need to go buy a cypher just to decode teenybopper messages that are as insignificant as the brown thing I left in my toilet last night?

@quicksite lk omg wtf is fora

@fadman i dont nozzz o god hlp mezz plzzzz :.((

If you want to change something why not change the stupefaction of an entire language instead of promoting the expedition of it.
[About XDA developers] retsam88:
Don't you have people better things to do, rather than complaining about word 'fora' ? It's bad, yeah, but many here can't write or spell correctly.
[About XDA developers] flyboyovyick:
Are you trying to get at the fact that you don't like the word "fora" instead of forums or forum?

If so, then you are the only person and the only thing i have read on this FORUM that has called this a "fora" or used the term "fora".

According to my mum, "fora" is a plural of "forum"

It can be applied like this:

"There are many different kinds of

fora

on the internet."

Or

"There are many different kinds of

forums

on the internet."

You can use either "fora" or "forum".

If the usage of the word "fora" instead of "forum" or "forums" annoys you, well that's just tough sh*t!

You can use either word and people can choose which on they want to use.

So there you go.

And i do have too much time on my hands

BTW: Its free will, people can say which ever word, and you can't change that.

So if your trying to, you have just failed.

BTW2: Someone should close this thread before a flame war starts.
[About XDA developers] MacaronyMax:
lol ;) :p :D

I agree it undoubtidly will :p
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] p40520:
Chinese Keyboard that came with 2.1 update doesn't include the Handwriting Recog.

So i tried and installed Chinese keyboard HWR but failed because there is already Chinese keyboard that came with the system.

And what I did, i used Titanium backup to uninstall the previous keyboard and then install the Chinese HWR that used in Donut1.6

now everything run perferctly after a day of struggling

So if anybody having the same problem,hope this help

pardon for my English
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] breyton88:
yo bro, can u explain how to fix it !!! step by step .

thank you

or can u upload the file from 1.6 :)
[HD7 General] emesen:
Hi. Does any body know how to transfer an ms excel file from my desktop to HD7.
[HD7 General] poopilot:
Officially, I believe it's via skydrive, but I've not quite got the hang of it yet. Your best bet is probably to email it to yourself, to be honest!
[HD7 General] foaf:
I also thought skydrive would be the key, but having been into the Office App a few times I can't figure out where the files would be. All I can see is the option for Sharepoint.

Any info on viewing skydrive office files on wp7 would be appreciated.
[HD7 General] adamwebb28:
Email is the only option at the moment, unless your company uses sharepoint. I think I read somewhere that Skydrive support was being added in a future update.

OneNote does sync very well over skydrive though.
[HD7 General] poopilot:
I'm sure I read somewhere that you could get the files from skydrive.live.com via the browser on the phone, but I have no signal here to test. Anyone want to have a go?
[HD7 General] adamwebb28:
Just tested, and actually it does work! Very well infact. Skydrive has quite a nice mobile site. You see a preview of the spreadsheet in the browser and a button to download it to edit on the phone.

I never realised you could download anything from the browser like that!
[HD7 General] digime:
Check out the Office section page of Paul Thurrott's excellent Windows Phone 7 review:

http://www.winsupersite.com/mobile/wp7_05.asp

I'm hoping improvements will be included in the update early next year.
[HD7 General] adesonic:
It would appear that you can download spreadsheets but not word docs from skydrive, still a nice feature! I have set my skdrive mobile page as a tile for ease of access
[HD7 General] adamwebb28:
I can get word docs too. Although they do get squashed up on the phone.
[HD7 General] lumpaywk:
is there a mobile version of the skydrive site as i get the full pledged web page and when I'm out and about might be best to get a simpler one.
[HD7 General] poopilot:
Do you have your IE settings to 'desktop version'?

you should use the following:

Settings -> Applications -> Internet Explorer -> 'Mobile Version'.
[HD7 General] JEEtoP:
SkyDrive will be integrated into the Office hub a la Sharepoint in the coming updates.
[HD7 General] lumpaywk:
As soon as i posted i realized i had desktop version turned on, though it would be good if there was an address to go to the mobile page even with it turned on like say www.m.live.skydrive.com or something.
[HD7 General] dmystic1:
Don't know if I'm right but I thought files could be synced with the zune software? (dont have my win 7 phone in the us yet)
[HD7 General] emesen:
Sky drive works but the issue with using sky drive is that when you download and save a file on you mobile phone, you cannot manage or place them into different folders. Is there any folder option for managing our documents ?
[HD7 General] prjkthack:
Nope. The only files Zune can sync would be its own library. Music, videos, podcasts, etc. But no files, pdfs, etc. Essentially, if you can't add it to Zune now (and Zune currently only handles media), there is no way for you to get it on the phone.

That being said, the Windows Phone 7 browser can handle downloading of files, including ZIPs, PDFs, Office documents, etc. So either e-mail yourself a file, or download it through SkyDrive (or another online storage system) through the browser.

Also, not possible at this point in time. They just show up in your Office hub as a list of files. No way to organize them... yet.
[HD7 General] novalistic:
Windows Live help download Office Files to WP7

I used Windows Live Office . . .

Sign in to your http://www.windowslive.com using your email (Hotmail) you get 25GB storage at Skydrive.

From your WP7 Internet Explorer login to windows live and download Officer Documents one by one . . .

Troublesome, but that's what I did :D :D
[HD7 General] enerkey:
helpful post
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] EyeAndroid:
Ok I know everyone has stated that the higher the class, the better the performance of Android on the HD2. Because as of now NAND has not been officially been completed, my understanding is the fact that a Class 6 sd card would be next closest thing.

I have a Samsung vibrant as well & there are virtually zero lags in games & applications. Yes I know Im comparing a Nand system to an SD card system, but hear me out.

On the current HD2/Android Build im running (Desire Sense Blue Topia) I've noticed while playing angry birds, there is some screen lag. I've also noticed this in the app drawer.

Now I know that NAND would help with performance and battery life, but I just wanna find out...

Is there anyone that was running a class 2 sd card, then upgraded to a class 6? And did you actually notice any differences?

Faster booting, less lag on apps, overall smoothness? Or is this just an old wives tale?

Thanks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Kouno.Takaaki:
Class make no sense but read and write speed do.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tonezhou:
I switched from Class 4 to 6, not much differences
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Olioaglio:
But theoretically Class value should make sense, because it tells about the >minimum< write speed a card has.

* Class 2: 16 Mbit/s (2 MB/s)

* Class 4: 32 Mbit/s (4 MB/s)

* Class 6: 48 Mbit/s (6 MB/s)

* Class 10: 80 Mbit/s (10 MB/s)

Olioaglio
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] EyeAndroid:
Whoa class 10! I didnt even know it existed.

Heres a listing...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Kingmax-8GB-Mic...emory_Cards&hash=item19c0adc2cf#ht_3119wt_905

Thats amazing.

Anyways, Ok so tonz said he went from 4 to 6 and didnt notice a difference.

How about from 2 to 6? And were you running the same build? Same set CPU processor speed?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] i1magic:
But one thing to note ... the trade off of higher speed is higher power consumption.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mtatq:
The same question , i used class 2 , and now , need i used class 4 or 6 or 10
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sedde:
Well i went from class 2 to class 6 and i didnt really saw a difference. Everything was the same, same setcpu speed, same all.

I doubt it worth the upgrade.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ultimaex:
I can remember that someone said that the internal sd card controller has a speed limit. for sure class 6 gives higher permanent trasfer speeds than class 2. I have no idea what happens if you access many small files. usually the controllers dont reach that high transfer with small blocks.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bouaroudj:
I moved from a sandisk class 2 to a trancend class 6.

Boot is faster. Other than that, there is not a huge difference (same quadrant results)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
The only difference in speed is seen when there is a lot of writing and reading done. Normal operation of android wont see much difference as it all loads into ram and runs from there. Playing games, etc won't see a noticeable speed boost with different class cards or even nand. Once the app is loaded, it's running from ram. Nand and higher class cards will help to boot quicker and with certain operations that require a lot of reading and writing to the os data file... I don't think most will notice any difference in speed.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Ironsave:
Yeah, I borrowed my GFs class 6 4GB and tried it for a day.

No difference for me whatsoever.

If anything, I would say the class 2 gave me better stability.

(Had some force closes and shuch with the class6 ).

My .02
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pietrucci:
That's exactly what I did. Unfortunately Transcend class 6 is

slow

er...

EDIT: I was mistaken, 8Gb Sandisk was alsdo Class 6. See other post to see some testresults
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jae-v:
don't know about you guys but changing the class from 2 to class 4 brought back SOD bad...extremely bad
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jvillejoe:
kingston class 10 hdsd micro sd card

well as far as testing my class 2 16 gb sandisk hdsd micro sd card to my kingston card stated in the title i can say there is a very big differnce to me speed wise everything seems to transfer faster load faster and as far as videos and music i keep stored on there i must say comparing the two the class 10 is by far the best thats just my 2 cents
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] qingcai:
the access time make difference. the speed not .
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] du1sbo:
Hello Everybody, I just want to share my experience regarding the micro sd card. Since i got my my TMOUS HD2, it came with the stock sandisk 16gb class 2 card. i have been using it since the day hd2 came out (late March 2010), i was using it mainly for my Android, but the card just not running stable, i keep getting SOD's on different android builds, lags and slow reading of the card. Well 2 weeks ago i decided to replace my Micro SD car to 16gb Class 10. I saw a HUGE improvement, the Android boots super fast, also not experiencing any lags nor SOD's. so my conclusion is the higher class of the card makes a HUGE difference, it makes your ANDROID runs smoother and stable on your HD2. I am very Happy :):)

As you all notice i don't have many post here, but i just want to share my experience, Thanks to all the people who are involved in making our HD2 a one amazing phone, more power.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bigballa:
I don't think it'll make a difference from the speed of the card I believe its the allocation size of each card. I tried it on a 32kb allocation when formatting and it ran well. Right now I'm on 64 and seen slight improvements but the builds are still unstable or the same. Just slightly better performance. I used a class 10 card and it was okay but my experience has no credibility because I just jumped to a hd2 from a Nexus. Stupid I know but the screen trade off make its worth it because I do alot of reading and video watching. But we'll see how my expirements go.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] startekee:
I went from a class 2 to a class 10 and I didn't notice and difference
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Beefheart:
I went from a Sandisk Class 2 16gb to a Samsung Class 6 8gb and there was a noticeable difference.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
That's word this thread popped up. I was actually going to buy a class 10 today and see if it would help any.

This hasn't been the first thread like this. Every time the conclusion is the same. Half of the people saw a difference in higher class cards, half didn't. Think I'm gonna trust my gut and get a class 10.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] EyeAndroid:
This is amazing that so many people have had such varied results..

No difference

ya a little

huge difference

I wonder if its the actual sd card they are using, as some manufactures will state class 6 but maybe have slower transfer rates than other class 6.

I guess its a matter of narrowing down which SD cards specifically are working for people. I dont think all sd's are made the same.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sly5789:
I was dumb to have bought a 16gb class 6 card, there was absolutely no difference between my factory 16gb class 6 card when running android. **DONT waste your money like I did**
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] firenrescue:
I have a 16gig class 4 SanDisk and upgraded to Wintec class 10 paid $39.99 US. I would not recommended that card I saw no improvement and do not believe the card is a class 10. I found it slower then the SanDisk. Wintec filemate UPC code 3FMUSD16GBC10-R I hope this helps
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
I do agree with EyeAndroid. I strongly believe it comes down to the brand of the card.