yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aludal:
That's the spirit! If I may, there should be more directions in searching for advice:

-- Zoom2/Zoom3 project (http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Source_Trees; bootloader git here http://dev.omapzoom.org/)

-- Droid X/2 community might have some valuable input, either right here at XDA Devs, or elsewhere (I didn't look myself, sorry);

-- nothing is lost in searches for serial yet;

-- apart from Angstrom to use as a poke, there must be some even smaller diagnostic distros which are more tolerant to errors in perceived memory organization/tables/etc.;

-- as for source code, I wonder whether the Droid X/2 owners have access to theirs. Booting from an external SD card is technically a vulnerability, and it can be closed any time now, in the new batch of NCs, or via FW update rollout (refer to original Nook experience). Now when it's done, they might publish sources. Did they publish them for Nook, BTW?

Sorry for mistakes of a highly uneducated starving artist who has not his NC yet, to boot.;)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tom in AZ:
The closest you will come to in molding in resin (being a somewhat cheap home built solution). Otherwise try making your book from 3mm Sintra as it can be heated and shaped with a simple heat gun. (I am into making Star Wars movie props).

If you want to do a simulated carbon fiber, get a clear case and place that woven anti slip foam shelf liner into the inside of it, spray down some gray paint though it to transpose the pattern and let it dry a min or so. Then remove it and spray black over it to seal the gray paint.

Tom
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pokey9000:
I'm glad you don't! I think I'd mentioned in IRC that I'm not making much progress with my Nook alone and my reluctance to take mine apart to hunt for serial. I'm new to a lot of this, and most of my posting here has been to grab the attention of anyone who's got actual experience on OMAP platforms. The only thing I have to show for this so far is that I can make my Nook not boot.

If we can get the Nook MLO and u-boot files we can overwrite the bootcmds to boot a kernel off MMC2 or if we're lucky turn on fastboot. The environment variables for u-boot are stored in a separate linker segment so they should be easy to get to.

BTW I was searching to see if we're using a TWL4030USB compatible PMIC, and from a lot of squinting at the pics and cross referencing it looks like we have a TPS65921B PMIC. u-boot seems to do some setup of this part, but USB also works for the on-chip bootloader presumably without any initialization of the PMIC. So does that mean you need to do any initialization?
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aludal:
Mytos-xda:

That's what I call deep hacking, lol! The NC has probably the best quality back in the whole industry of tablets, and yet there are people to improve on that. I like it. I would like it even more, if you could put the much more powerful (and quite open) Pandaboard inside -- instead of stock NC's one.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] minininja:
If you're trying replicate a shape you could look at vacuforming. There's also a pellet type plastic stuff that you can "mold" at low heat (via microwave if I remember correctly). I don't remember what it's called though.

en wikipedia org /wiki/Vacuum_forming
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockworx:
After the stupid sideloading frustration in IRC yesterday, I remembered a trick that people were using on the Pandigital to install apps without sideloading.

Of course, I have no idea what will happen even if the NC allows the file:/// type in the browser (and we'd have to know what the mount point is for the sd card, in case it isn't "/sdcard/"), and THEN there's the question of whether Unknown Sources are allowed and/or if they can be enabled.

In short, a whole lot of if's. Still, I figure this approach (or something similar) is worth a try, but I don't have a NC yet myself. Anyone feel like giving it a go?
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steampunk:
Ok I put an apk file on the nook device and typed in:

file:///media/package_name.apk

It took me to the package manager and poped up an Install Blocked window that says:

Installation of download apks is not supported.

This however proves that the file:/// works ... maybe we can use this to further the cause
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockworx:
Thanks for trying it, at least that's a start!
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
same here. but stupidly i tried a movie file.. it takes for ever to load a gig of text! so i had to restart it.

tried an apk and got the same result as you did.

i tried putting the apk into the b&n download extras folder to see if that made a difference. still no go.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aludal:
What happened to your last love, Mr. roebeet? No, no, let me tell you: your comic books will look HUGELY better on NC than ever on G-tablet.

In other words, welcome to the battlegrounds. I'm sure your input here will be very valuable. Even if it's about how to improve comic books presentation, or Segoe on NC.

To clockworx: it's a honor to see you interested and to see you here, Sir (LOL)

However, an attempt to charge the browser with "file:///[whateverthemountpointmightbe]", even if unsuccessful, may actually pay out a little bit more than that "sideloading" shamanism you put yourself through.

IMHO, a crippling a stock Android browser by outright denying "file:///..." or "ebook:///..." protocols sounds like overkill to me, so there's still a possibility to divine the mount points and read something out -- if not write/sideload just yet.

Talking about WPDN for a minute: I kinda miss my toy, my first Android love. I miss good video play that is promised by tom3q of Samdroid. Or by VisualOn guys I quote in my blog. What I don't miss is Android 2.2, as I'm of opinion there's something broken in 2.2 (Neon?) video/graphic UI framework compared to all those Tegra2 prototypes running A 2.0.1.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
Very interesting .... been toying around with this idea trying different stuff . Renamed an apk file a bunch of different file types , but if you type file://system/app in the browser you get

The webpage at file://system/app could not be displayed as :

Is a directory

Looks like a guessing game trying to figure out the name of a file in the app folder to open .

But , more importantly , the browser looks like it will not only access the sd card , but the internal memory structure as well
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockworx:
Maybe try file://system/app/Settings.apk ?

I doubt it will work, but...

Also, can you do file:///system/build.prop just for kicks?

Can we do this to systematically download anything we're interested in? :)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
tried it .... file not found

searching for other directories and files

system/etc come up as a directory

system/bin comes up as well

Maybe someone more familiar with the directory structure will have a better idea on where to look for a file that might open up something

Just using astro file manager on my evo to poke around and then enter the location on the nc to see the results
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steampunk:
interesting that I get the same "installation of downloaded apks is not supported" for:

file:///system/app/Settings.apk
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCHASE731:
i just tried it for you. i got a parse error. BTW. has anyone noticed we can take screenshots with the nook?

check it out:
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steampunk:
woot! success on file://system/build.prop

here is a pic ... i will start typing it out...

crap new user so having problems posting a link or the pic...

go to picasaweb . google . com / steampunk / MyStuff
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
Whenever I try to open an apk file I now get

Parse error

There is a problem parsing the package

up top it says package installer
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCHASE731:
im not exactly sure how the screen grabs work. its a combination of volume up and the nook key....

here are the results of the build.prop

none of this means anything to me...BUT i can follow instructions and post back!
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
# begin build properties # autogenerated by buildinfo.sh

ro.build.id=ERD79 ro.build.display.id=ERD79

ro.build.version.incremental=269 ro.build.version.sdk=7

ro.build.version.codename=REL ro.build.version.release=2.1

ro.build.date=Thu Nov 11 11:29:24 PST 2010

ro.build.date.utc=1289503764 ro.build.type=user ro.build.user=build

ro.build.host=dhabuildimage10 ro.build.tags=test-keys

ro.product.model=LogicPD Zoom2 ro.product.brand=generic

ro.product.name=zoom2 ro.product.device=zoom2 ro.product.board=zoom2

ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi ro.product.manufacturer=LogicPD

ro.product.locale.language=en ro.product.locale.region=US

ro.wifi.channels= ro.board.platform=omap3 # ro.build.product is

obsolete; use ro.product.device ro.build.product=zoom2

ro.build.sourceversion=ful

ro.build.description=1.0.0.269.int.enc.rrdp.s30078

ro.build.fingerprint=generic/

zoom2/zoom2/zoom2:2.1/ERD79/269:user/test-keys # end build properties

# system.prop for zoom2 # This overrides settings in the

products/generic//dev/ttyS0 # ro.sf.lcd_density=240

ro.sf.widthpixels=600 ro.sf.heightpixels=1024

ro.sf.lcd_density.xdpi=169.33333 ro.sf.lcd_density.ydpi=169.33333

opencore.asmd=1 keyguard.no_require_sim=1 wifi.interface=tiwlan0

alsa.mixer.playback.master=DAC2 Analog

alsa.mixer.capture.master=Analog # With optimized Neon Arm, decoding

on ARM is as fast as DSP. # So let's use ARM, until we are totally

conformatable with DSP Jpeg decoder. # Setting limit to 2 Megs, as

that seems to be the sweet spot skia.jpeg_threshold=2000

browser.tioptimization=true connection.concurrent=10

ro.media.dec.aud.wma.enabled=1 ro.media.dec.vid.wmv.enabled=1

KPI_Instrumentation_Enabled=0 # # ADDITIONAL_BUILD_PROPERTIES #

ro.config.notification_sound=OnTheHunt.ogg

ro.config.alarm_alert=Alarm_Classic.ogg

ro.com.android.dateformat=MM-dd- yyyy ro.com.android.dataroaming=true

ro.url.legal=http://www.google.com/intl/%s/mobile/android/basic/phone-legal.html

ro.url.legal.android_privacy=http://

www.google.com/intl/%s/mobile/android/basic/privacy.htm

net.bt.name=Android ro.config.sync=yes

dalvik.vm.stack-trace-file=/data/anr//traces.txt
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockworx:
Sorry if I'm repeating stuff that is known already....

From here:

http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Resources

Zoom2 Schematics, Layout & BOM files

The latest Zoom2 board schematics are publicly available here.

If you wish to download the Zoom2 layout & BOM files for Zoom2, they are available at Logicpd.com. Registration is required prior to downloading.

Zoom2 Specs and Peripheral Datasheets

Zoom2 Specs and Peripheral Datasheets are available at omapzoom.org.

So i guess this:

http://www.logicpd.com/products/development-kits/texas-instruments-zoom™-omap34x-ii-mdp

is the target.

If you go to logicpd, you can access downloads if you have a serial # and part #. Wonder if one from a NC would actually work :)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 10equals2:
How did you take that screenshot?
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
the part # is MDPOMAP343010256512R

digikey is a retailer , just can't figure out a valid serial # to get their system to take it

not even sure how many digits it has to be , I'll keep trying and see if I can come up with anything
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockworx:
I was referring to this:

http://www.logicpd.com/products/development-kits/texas-instruments-zoom™-omap34x-ii-mdp#tabs-som-4

Is that the same thing you're looking at?

You enter some info, they send you registration email, which requires serial #/part # to complete. That page implies access to the latest documents and software once you register.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aludal:
I thought Zoom 2 (OMAP3630 based platform) is a better approximation than the 34x for a 3621 device. Sure, they might have less data open, after B&N asked TI to take down some docs from a public view. In any case, there should be some "wild" Zoom 2 tinkerers alive still out there, to ask.

Summary for today's research is in my blog, and you're welcome.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
Is that the same thing you're looking at?

Correct , I registered and then proceeded to find out the correct part # , now we just need to get their system to accept a serial # and we should be able to download developement software .
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SystemIdleProcess:
interesting...
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
You can take screenshots on the NOOKcolor by holding down the Nook button and then pressing in on the decreasing volume (-) button. Screenshots are saved in a screenshot folder and viewable in the Gallery.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
Not sure if this was posted before or if it helps http://code.google.com/p/omap-u-boot-utils/
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
Figured out a valid serial .... uploading a link for a valid microsd bootloader file ..... stay tuned for more

EDIT http://www.4shared.com/file/M_immJ0S/1011610A_OMAP34x_MDK_Bootable_.html
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCHASE731:
yeah thats exactly it. i was messing around and i got them to snap, but couldnt get it to do it consistently. you need to hold the nook button for a few seconds first then press volume down.

like i said before. i dont really know anything about the code, but if thie provides some insight for people post the instructions...ill post the screens. anything to help get this done
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockworx:
Any chance you can host it elsewhere? I can't access it, and others are trying to grab it to test and are also having issues.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mytos-xda:
ditto, throw it up on mediashare if possible please.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
http://www.4shared.com/file/M_immJ0S/1011610A_OMAP34x_MDK_Bootable_.html

If anyone has a better place to host it , give me an email address and I'll send you the file
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mytos-xda:
yeah the 4shared link doesnt work, weve got four people trying it in #nookdevs, please upload it somewhere else bud, itll be much appreciated
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockworx:
Mediashare should work, or email it to clockwrx at gmail and I can post it there.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3L8SOIKI
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCHASE731:
Give me a few ill make a public dropbox on my wbserver no ads no waiting. No file restrictions. I will be monitoring so please behave :)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] axe2:
You should be able to get it here:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6908567/1011610A_OMAP34x_MDK_Bootable_SD_Card.zip
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
clockworx ..... uploading and emailing you all of the files I could get from Logic PD as we speak
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SystemIdleProcess:
default.prop contents

# # ADDITIONAL_DEFAULT_PROPERTIES # ro.secure=1 ro.allow.mock.location=0 ro.debuggable=0 persist.service.adb.enable=0
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
Looks like the stuff I downloaded was for the 34x and not the 34x-II .... doing some more downloading

More Files for the 34x-II

EDIT http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DD1YGTRA
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mytos-xda:
nook files

this is everything that fab has sent me and clockworx so far, if he sends more ill upload it asap, everything is zipped and dropped in the pub of my dropbox, go ahead and grab all you like

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2961139/nook color information.zip
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
I tried to open an apk file on my HTC Evo .... its rooted but I got the Failed to Parse error on it as well .Looks like using the browser to install an apk isn't a possibility .
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockworx:
Some people on the Pandigital have confirmed they've used it to install, but not sure what the platform differences are that makes it work on there but not other devices. (except the NC, which is locked down to not install from unknown sources)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] forcedfab:
I thought the parse error may have been related to the fact I was trying to open an apk file on my evo when the program was already installed . I transferred a new apk file to the root of my sdcard on my evo and tried to open it through the browser ,but I still got the failed to parse error
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aludal:
anyone with hacked Droid X? how is it going to inject a file via USB

sorry if it's off case
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bit1:
You are all much much smarter than I could ever be but I did get mine to recognize my sdcard. I realized that the NC was formatting the card as FAT whereas the media folder is FAT32. I formatted the card to FAT32 and when I now enter

file://sdcard I get the is a directory whereas that did not work before
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pokey9000:
Got out the dmm and made some charge current measurements. The short version: Nook fast charges over 3x as fast with the Nook cable and Nook charger than with a standard cable or the Nook cable on a PC port. BUT the NC tries to pull near the max current allowed (500mA) by the USB spec when it's not using the Nook cable and charger.

From 95% battery:

470mA - standard cable on a powered hub

450mA - Nook cable on a powered hub

470mA - standard cable on the Nook charger

700mA - Nook cable on the Nook charger

From 70% battery:

475mA - standard cable on a powered hub

440mA - Nook cable on a powered hub

475mA - standard cable on the Nook charger

1200mA - Nook cable on the Nook charger

From 15% battery:

475mA - standard cable on a powered hub

410mA - Nook cable on a powered hub

475mA - standard cable on the Nook charger

1470mA - Nook cable on the Nook charger

1300mA - Nook cable on a third party 2A USB charger

1600mA - Nook cable on a USB battery pack

Measured with a USB extender with the +5 line cut to shunt through a dmm.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bit1:
Oh by the way. I just tried getting to a picture on my sdcard and it did work just fine. this is probably useless but i'm excited it worked through the browser using

file://sdcard/my files/pictures/test.png (for some reason the space has to be there in my files)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lunchboxfett:
Are you able to edit this file and change the adb.enable to 1 instead of 0?
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aludal:
yeah... kinda make sense. If only it can be written back that way, when the device is unrooted. That is, build.prop is read-only AFAIK. All is needed for injection is su and chmod. Sudo. mount. (just kidding)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madsquabbles:
You wouldn't happen to have a 5v 2amp non nook charger to test with? I know with my panisonic charger it can charge while in use. If I use a standard 5v 1A charger it will actually discharge but slowly. The only test I did was from 65 to 100 with the 10watt charger and it took about 2:15. I've not really used the nook charger at all. I also haven't tested it with my iPad charger either.

It's odd that to pull more power from the nook charger that you have to use their cable.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtbnet:
Would be nice... but default.prop is on '/' which is always mounted RO... thus need root to remount/RW...
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pokey9000:
Updated, see above.

Microusb has some pretty small pins. I'm pretty sure the single power pin won't handle 1.5A well. The Nook cable is weird and has redundant pins for power, allowing it to carry more current. The cable is rigged so that the Nook knows that it can go above 500mA for charging. Lots of other consumer products do this.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] archongtv:
I don't have nook color yet, but I'm planing to buy one. And I'm following this rooting thread ;) Ok so my question is - what about formating card to ext2/3, inserting .sh script with +x and trying to run it from browser?

Is it possible to download and install apps from BN? Are they signed? Has anybody tried to sniff traffic between nook and BN, what data are exchanged when downloading app? Maybe it's possible to replace content of app and insert for example sshd or telned. Has anybody tried to nmap nook?

Just few ideas in the morning. ;)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 10equals2:
Good idea, but the nookColor app store is not up yet. in fact, I do not even think that they have a way to buy and download apps yet. Or it could simply be hidden in the shop app until they get it running. In either case, there are no apps yet, besides the demo ones (pandora) that came with the nook
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockworx:
Throwing out more crazy ideas....could we try to use the original Nook's firmware update format to try to push a single file over? Maybe start with some innocent file that doesn't currently exist (like push this_is_a_test.txt) to /system, verify if it worked by using the browser, and then consider if we can try to push over stuff like a build.prop that doesn't have adb disabled?

Seems relatively low risk to me...if anything, it will probably not work at all, and you should be safe pushing over a non-system file as a test case.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ap3x Ve!0city:
Non-Root Solutions

I am aware that the side-load did not work... and probably due to that no one is reading this, but if you are... I am FIXING IT, so far I have created a nook specific app from what the nook developers page gives us in terms of developing apps for the NC (i used titanium appcelerator). i am currently experimenting with using the browser and an html file to open an extracted ".apk" file. So far I have had some success, but not much... what i have so far is getting the browser to exit and open a blank screen. (I know i may have wasted 3 hours of your time with my previous theory... but please help.) P.S. I apologize to all of those who whose time i wasted with my previous theory
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] turtledoves:
network dump yet?

Hi, poutine from nookdevs here, I noticed someone mentioned they were going to get a network dump, have we gotten our hands on that yet? I posted a partial file list to nookdevs that's shown in the legal section on the nook color, not sure if that'd be useful at all.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] archongtv:
I just made a sugestion to try dumping traffic as I don't have nook color (yet)
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheDoctor1971:
I suspect that our best bet is going to be getting the NC to boot off microsd or sideload an APK somehow. My bet is on the microsd. I'm willing to experiment with mine if I'm not too comatose from turkey.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Android Dev Guy:
re: Non-Root Solutions

Can you post a link to the nook dev page that gives guidelines on this? I have eclipse and the android sdk already set up for phone apps but I couldn't get it to push an app down to the NC ... it needs to have some kind of debug mode.

thanks!

JAC
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ojo8:
I can't help but wonder if Barnes and Noble sells the Nook Color at a loss. It seems to be the perfect mid-range android tablet. Well built, plenty of ram, memory, battery life, and an amazing IPS screen. If a manufactuer came out with this same exact tablet but running stock android, i'm pretty sure it would fly off the shelves.
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yerand:
They're selling it at a small profit and making money from to books they sell rather than the hardware