yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
There's gotta be something running in the background, otherwise the phone would be cool.

Make sure you're completely up to date - some of the bundle packages have old pieces in them. Sometimes it's OK, other times it means your build is very outdated.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jordanthompson:
I dropped back to the overclocking level before medium, made absolutely sure that all processes were stopped, and the battery was completely dead:eek:. It had been on charge until around 10:00 and in Airplane mode with all processes stopped. I checked it around 5:00, but the battery was already dead, so I don't know when it actually died.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] iamterence:
Format SD card using any other third party program like Panasonic SD Formatter or what have you > Go here http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads/archive and download any old Android build (Except for Sense 2.1) > Manually update kernals and rootfs > Uncheck Ovclock (Or take out the OC command line in the startup.txt and check the manual startup.txt from the launcher app) > Boot.

You should have great battery life now and phone should stay cool and go into deep sleep (Green LED light).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jordanthompson:
So are you saying that overclocking is causing the battery life to drain quickly? I can turn it off with the installer that I am using.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Well it would stand to reason that OVERclocking a processor would degrade battery life & stability.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] lemeiux1:
well to be honest you are not going to get great battery life out of android on the tp2...yet. On WM with normal use I get about a little over a full day, android max is like 7-8 hours. The battery life has made great strides though recently and I'm sure will eventually be usable for a full day.

Try a program from the market called juice defender, it literally doubles my battery life when running android, should help with your heat issues as well
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jordanthompson:
Thanks very much for the helpful advice - I'll look for it tomorrow and let you know how I make out:p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
Is it really necesarry to manually update the kernals and rootfs or can sov's XDAndroid startup utility be used to update them?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] iamterence:
Its not really necessary, but you'll know for a fact that your build's up to date. Thats what I do anyways.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
Am I correct with these steps on how to do it manually?

1) Download the latest kernal and rootfs that you want to update

2) Unpack the rootfs file to desktop and copy it into andboot and rename it rootfs and delete the old one.

3) Unpack the kernal to the desktop and send the module into andboot but DO NOT rename (Delete old).

Rename the zImage file to just zImage and put it into andboot and delete the old one.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] immson:
My tp2 oc'ed at 768 runs for days in android. maybe its cuss i got the rhod400?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Days? In Android?!? You must not be doing... anything. Plus have every radio turned off or something.

Wistilt2 was saying he was getting around 36 hours at peak, but that was basically all sleep.

I get 10 hours if I'm lucky, but lately it's just been dying out of nowhere and shutting off completely. Not sure what's up with that...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
The settings in that app are kind of confusing. Which settings do you use and do you use the free version or paid version. It seems some features are blocked out on the free version, do I really need the ones blocked out?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] LDGator:
Manually Updating XDAndroid & Power Management

Your post may seem OT but since current updates can be related to better power management its very relevant.

1) Yes, if you are getting:

Kernels & modules from dev glemsom: http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/

Rootfs from dev stinebd: http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/

2) After unpacking / extracting rootfs-xxxx.zip either on desktop or Rhodium (using 7-Zip for WM [it's Free]) rename it "rootfs.img"

3) Yes. You can also unpack / extract the kernel & module archive htc-msm-linux-xxxx.tar.bz2 on Rhodium using 7-Zip for WM.

Equally important is using latest XDAndroid System. If your using Sov's Startup utility (make certain your using latest version as of this post 1.3.1) and his latest "reference" build, not Blazin, you will be current with the latest XDAndroid System [2.2] [25-10-10] (Oct. 25, 2010) FRX02 aka system.ext2 NOTE: If you update the system file you will need to delete the data.img file and that means loosing all your configs, downloads, & customizations. Using Titanium Backup makes this a little less painful.

Battery life is directly related to how you use your device. Some power hogs include overclocking, videos, and services such as GPS, WiFi, Data, & Voice. Many concerned with extending battery life underclock. Personally I don't subscribe to OC or UC.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] immson:
mine too, i updated it like half a month ago. i guess somehow it glitched and had super battery. anywhere from 6 to 8 hours is what i get until out of no where, nothing.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] feri1223:
As long as I observe, in my case at least, the screen's backlight never turns OFF. The screen became black, but the light behind it is always ON, the only way to see this is in complete dark, otherwise all you can see is a black screen. Try it. In my case I'm shure this is at least one reason for short battery life under xandroid on my tp2. Interesting under windows the screen backlight is turning OFF in stand by mode.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Timmy87:
I'm know what you mean i also have this same problem. When I first loaded Android 2.2.1 onto my SD card the sleep mode was working correctly for around 1 week or so. During that time I had a few crashes of Android, due to applications etc, and now its like u said. The screen is black but still 'on' in sleep mode.

Sent from my MSM using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Bieka:
Just to add another field report...

I installed the "Battery Left" Widget, wich logs battery life and calculates an average. I'm always running on 3G or even WiFi if I am at Home and my average is about 30 hours a charge. If i'm doing nothing it gets this maximum battery life. But in normal day use with writing an email sometimes and doing a call it's about 10-12 hours. If i am at work and i use Navigation between my customers (between 1 and 3 hours one way), i always charge the phone while navigating and deactivate GPS when i'm not using it, i get 10 hours with a full charged battery at the morning. Currently i'm using the 11/24 kernel and the 11/08 rootfs modified to fit my german keyboard layout. Furthermore i'm using the newest combination of [ACL]'s tweaked 3D Driver and gralloc. No overclocking (no need for that, caus android is running good at stock speed) and pm.sleepmode set to 1.

Hope that is not a useless reply ;)

Cheers
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] schlei:
Hi sounds Nice.

Can u send me your updates files ?

German keyboard is nice for me.

Mit freundlichen grüssen
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
Are people getting any better battery with the Neopeek builds? Because I'm trying to use this all day every day but it just won't last.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] vnes1984:
I get about 12-15 hours with light/light medium use. My best advise would be to make sure you are up-to-date on everything (FRX03, kernal, etc...) and set your pm.sleep mode to 1. I also force kill apps after I'm done using them and it seems to help a little.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
Alright I'll go ahead and try that out. Is that a line in the startup.txt?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] toadlife:
Yes.

The default setting in the startup text for pm.sleep_mode is 2. Set it to 1. Also, you MUST disable overclocking or your phone will not wake up from sleep. Remove the line that sets the overclocking, i.e. "acpuclock.oc_freq_khz "

I can confirm from experience that setting pm.sleep_mode to 1 is the single most important thing you can do in regards to battery life.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] jordanthompson:
I am currently running with "medium" over-clocking and my pm.sleep_mode is set to 1. I am not experiencing any weirdness (phone wakes up fine), but I am not overly happy with the battery life, either. I have a charger at work, home, and in the car and am able to survive in between (3-4 hours at best.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Lmiller1708:
When you don't need data turn it off via a data toggle widget. I can get mine to last a full easily with light data usage...

That is if you can live with out data until you want to check it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] toadlife:
Really?!

What is your oc frequency set to?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] slapshot30:
Thanks a lot. Finally I can start using this thing 24/7.

What toggles did you get from the market? The ones I've used in the past were really faulty once I turned data off and then turned it back on, the market wouldn't work and no data would go through.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Lmiller1708:
Toggle Data Widget, works good for me. Also Quick settings works too... but it's one more click to get it done.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] britishpdx:
it's fixed
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
What's wrong with the built-in widget for disabling/enabling radios/connections?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
Quick Settings isn't a widget, it's a program, and then you can run it so it stays resident is always in the window shade you pull down. I love it, works great.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] manekineko:
The built-in widget gives you the option of completely disabling the radio, or disabling account syncing.

These give you the WinMo style in between option of disabling the data entirely while leaving the voice radio enabled.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fischerben:
hi

need some little help

in this tread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=769026 it stands that you shall type in these lines "then upon first boot go to terminal and enter these (without the quotes) and press enter after every line.

su

rm /data/system/batterystats.bin"

but how do i use terminal emulator? and what is it? and were and when do i type the lines in?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] brooksymike:
Download "Terminal Emulator" from market. Then open the app which brings up a screen where you can type.

Type in what it says you should type and press enter when it says to.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bodybuilder27:
dont bother is a goood answer....coz i got that build and have never done that terminal stuff, and not had one freeze or anything...awesome build.

matt
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adinis78:
i have been having issues with the market 2.2 app. when updating certain apps get stuck in the download (ex. titanium backup, root explorer) i reverted to the stock market app and i updated both apps with no issues, anyone else have had these problems? its nice to have the update all option but if i keep having problems it is not worth it.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HQXU:
:p

delete plz
[Vibrant General] dogboyaa1:
I know yall seen this probably this already but I was so happy I couldnt resist sharing!

Check out the CM6 RC0 Build being tested.

http://twitpic.com/30etr1

http://twitpic.com/30etlg

http://twitpic.com/30ewun (my fav!)
[Vibrant General] tjhart85:
It's definitely a step in teh right direction, but it can't get data (over SIM) and no phone calls yet.

Definitely not yet a RC (even if it is labeled as such internally).

TheDude seems to be making quite a bit of progress though (or at least publishes it unlike Wes).

On the other hand, if you look at the Git, you'll see a lot of stuff getting updated/added by Wes.

I dunno what to think :-/
[Vibrant General] adamboyd83:
God I want this. I had CM6 running my Hero and I would love it to have it on my Vibrant. I like that it has the wifi and gps controls in in the pull down menu like the Samsung ROM. That is the best thing about the stock ROM.
[Vibrant General] gravis86:
My G2 is gonna get real jealous when this comes out... :D
[Vibrant General] grennis:
wes doesn't do anything but change the names of things back and forth
[Vibrant General] PaiPiePia:
Or the other way around for us. :) haha.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
And you do what, again?
[Vibrant General] Erickomen27:
Is It Just Me, Or Does This Look Really Sexy?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Phone Titan:
Hello fello XDA users!

We are giving away a case / screen protector for one the new Windows 7 Phones and we have made it very simple for everyone who does own one or will own one to enter.

We have three simple rules that you need to follow in order to be able to win the contest.

You can find all the information that you need via Phone Titan.

If you have any questions or comments then please use this thread and we will try to help.
[HD2 General] sanjeev_mail:
Hi,

When i try to go to below web sites,it shows SQUARE.

even font is placed under windows\font. can any one help on this pls? But i dont want use skyfire.

Dinamalar dot c o m

thatstamil dot i n
[General Questions and Answers] rmu1985:
Hi,

I am very new to XDA developers forum and also just three days old to Android world. i m using Samsung Galaxy 3 i 5801 Mobile. Can someone tell me how to increase the icon size?

Is there an apps to do that?
[General Questions and Answers] resys:
I have a Galaxy S4 mini and would like to know if there is a way to increase the size of the icons in touchwiz somehow, without using another launcher. Is there a trick?
[General Questions and Answers] Trozzul:
yikes that is one old phone! its awesome to hear that some people are still using them!, well if your willing to you can use a launcher that gives you the option to change the icon size, i think Nova launcher does that. Welcome to XDA!
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
"PaulOBrien: OK, this is interesting. I can delete files (only) from the NAND protected /system partition on the G2 and Desire HD."

http://www.twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/29386948202

Very interesting IMHO. We need details, Paul! Thanks for all your hard work.

Its great to have a guy like Paul working on our G2.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wayde187:
Hmmmmm?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dom18:
Sounds promising, cant wait!
[G2 and Desire Z General] linkage2424:
Niiice.

Hopefully this will allow the devs to gain some ground.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wookieloou:
Its coming!!111 :d
[G2 and Desire Z General] KShatzkes:
Please don't be teasing me. Oh, please god.
[G2 and Desire Z General] paulobrien:
Details to follow! ;)

P
[G2 and Desire Z General] xile6:
Yes please do ill be watching this like a hawk.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ZeroSX:
You tease.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Vandam500:
Cannot wait! Thanks again :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] lramon:
coming soon yes!!:)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Smokuevo:
Can't wait need cm!
[G2 and Desire Z General] v8pwrdz28:
Don't be pulling our leg please
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
Hopefully this leads to perm root.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ThaGeNeCySt:
Teach me.

10 char
[G2 and Desire Z General] vladyman:
What exactly is the purpose of this thread?

Ok, I am not quite sure what threads like this one are for. Somebody posts a tweet, without releasing any details yet, and this thread just keeps growing with speculations by people without any technical insight or knowledge, knowing no details whatsoever of how it was done. What purpose does this serve? To fill up XDA? The rooting threads are full of "I have no idea but...", "I don't know if this has been mentioned, but...", "Thank you guys for your efforts..." etc. Only very few posts are actually useful.

How about we create a separate forum called

"G2 General Waffle"

and in there we will have a few threads like

1. "Thank you to all the developers, keep up the good work, I love you!"

2. "I don't know anything about rooting, but how about using the sudo Linux command that I have just learned about on the Ubuntu Wiki?"

3. "I have no desire to read anything, can somebody summarise thread X for me?"

4. "I would like to speculate how person X who tweeted 'I perm-rooted the G2!' did it.

etc.

This way we keep the threads in the relevant forums clean, useful and easy to follow.

I think it is no wonder that many developers work in small closed groups until the final result is achieved, because any collaboration on XDA has become almost impossible, since everyone thinks they can post anything they like on to any thread, no matter how Off-topic or useful it is.

I picked this thread to post this, because it is so useless already that it won't get any worse by my off-topic post, and I hope this thread will get deleted, until Paul finally posts the details of what he has done in a separate thread.
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidtoy09:
Don't be a douche. People are just excited about the news/development. Your post contributed nothing but complaining what makes u think it's diffrent than others.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] stevencpoynter:
Ok, I am not quite sure what threads like this one are for. Somebody posts a tweet, without releasing any details yet, and this thread just keeps growing with speculations by people without any technical insight or knowledge, knowing no details whatsoever of how it was done. What purpose does this serve? To fill up XDA? The rooting threads are full of "I have no idea but...", "I don't know if this has been mentioned, but...", "Thank you guys for your efforts..." etc. Only very few posts are actually useful.

How about we create a separate forum called

"G2 General Waffle"

and in there we will have a few threads like

1. "Thank you to all the developers, keep up the good work, I love you!"

2. "I don't know anything about rooting, but how about using the sudo Linux command that I have just learned about on the Ubuntu Wiki?"

3. "I have no desire to read anything, can somebody summarise thread X for me?"

4. "I would like to speculate how person X who tweeted 'I perm-rooted the G2!' did it.

etc.

This way we keep the threads in the relevant forums clean, useful and easy to follow.

I think it is no wonder that many developers work in small closed groups until the final result is achieved, because any collaboration on XDA has become almost impossible, since everyone thinks they can post anything they like on to any thread, no matter how Off-topic or useful it is.

I picked this thread to post this, because it is so useless already that it won't get any worse by my off-topic post, and I hope this thread will get deleted, until Paul finally posts the details of what he has done in a separate thread.

--Alright, your fifteen minutes of fame are over....about........now.

This thread was so pleasant before Mr. Negative Nancy chimed in. If it is what it is, then it is indeed a development aspect of this phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] vladyman:
I agree. And I did say it in my post. It's off-topic in this forum, and contributed exactly as much to the actual rooting process as the excitement posts. But there has to be some way to make people realise that threads like this are actually harmful, because people (like me) spend ages looking for something relevant, and mostly just read useless waffle. Whilst I am not currently working on this, if somebody is, then this browsing time is time that is lost, which is not in the interest of the community.

If people want to exchange excitement, why not post on twitter with the #g2root tag, or at least marking the thread clearly as off-topic/not relevant. Paul only posted on Twitter and not on XDA presumably for precisely this reason. If he posts something here, it is of actual value and has the relevant details in. People should take an example. It's not about flaming, it's about trying to make XDA more efficient.

This is the last I am going to say on this. It is not going to help anyway, I wonder why we keep trying...
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
Damn talk about being negative. Ha. We got a debbie downer here fellas.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
This is fun.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sheek360:
Thanks Paul!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ryanmo5:
Thread moved to general, thanks for the hard work paul and good luck to you!
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
Thanks for moving the thread Ryan. I'm a moron. :p
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dalamak:
I have also said these forums need more moderators, guides
[G2 and Desire Z General] izzyskywalker:
1. Anyone working on this is going to be using irc for their information. The real dev work has been moved off forum. But I'm sure the devs appreciate you speaking on their behalf about what's a waste of their time and what's not. GG bumping a thread that you call a waste of your time /confused

2. If your time is so important maybe spend your time doing something more productive than reading forums.

3. No one cares if your time's wasted.
[G2 and Desire Z General] zmodp:
Dont be negative by calling vladyman negative...

All this negativity is turning my sarcasm negative :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] ~~Tito~~:
I cant wait till paul unveals his work :D.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Reignzone:
We really need this... especially for pesky system applications such as, Google Goggles, that don't allow for updating to occur on my handset. :rolleyes:

I cannot wait... well, I can. But I don't want to! ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] wayde187:
Does this mean you have the ability to permanently delete the bloatware off the phone? That would tide me over for a minute while we wait for perm root
[G2 and Desire Z General] paulobrien:
Yeah.

P
[G2 and Desire Z General] rhcp011235:
Very nice.

Cant wait to see what it can do. Im sure its possible to read/write/delete.

Sounds odd if you can only delete.
[G2 and Desire Z General] riochile:
Looking forward to it! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] paulobrien:
Details:

http://android.modaco.com/content/t...m/322030/02-oct-r1-g2-google-goggles-remover/

P
[G2 and Desire Z General] SRT102JZ:
Worked great, thanks Paul. Can't wait to remove all bloatware
[G2 and Desire Z General] Radioactive Death:
Worked nicely Paul. do you plan on releasing your source code or giving a step by step plan of how this works behind the scenes?
[G2 and Desire Z General] paulobrien:
Yes, I plan to release the source.

P
[G2 and Desire Z General] Radioactive Death:
Awesome! Thanks Paul.
[G2 and Desire Z General] smirkis:
what would be great, is if you just made a "uninstall" utility which gives us the ability to choose a app to be uninstalled instead of an app specific uninstaller.. great work btw
[G2 and Desire Z General] wickednix:
Thanks paul, keep up the good work
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
I'm with you. Its become increasingly hard to get any intelligent discussion going on here. There are multitudes of the exact same topics being made in this forum and like you said, the actual hackers can't even discuss what they're doing on XDA anymore. You go into the development forum and almost every topic is filled with "great work, keep it up man, love you!" on every page and people go off topic way too much. Just mindless speculating and random posts. There's hardly anything useful to even read within the G2 section. And this forum, general discussion, is nothing but complaints and retarded questions. Can't even post here.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Have you even read Paul's thread at MoDaCo?

With all due respect, as the person in charge of collecting and advertising the bounty (which I appreciate!), you might want to avoid acting like an overexcited child... it could put some people off. Just a suggestion.