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[Hero, G2 Touch General] jagpilotcv:
hi there,

first of all thanks are in order, i recently flashed my hero.......and well i ain't going back...

enough said i flashed the radio update you mention, but the screen gets stuck at formatting cache and remains like that forever however after rebooting all seems to be working fine. Here is the tricky part, How do i confirm if the radio is upgraded, cause in about phone there seems no radio option available. any help in this would be amazing.......

thanks anyway for the wonderful work dude.......:-)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] takuhii:
The radio update is good like that, it doesn't actually inform you it's finished formatting cache, your update has worked though, this is exactly what it did to me and my phone is fine ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] johnnydvc:
Hi,

On about phone -> base band version. That's your radio version. ;)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jdwis:
is it possible we can have HTC Weather widget the one with the clock or just on its own on the new Floyo 2.2.1, CM6.1 ROM?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Zebwen:
main post has been updated to include the latest version of FlyKernal (Conservatively clocked, you can tweak this by following the instructions in the main FlyKernel thread.

I have also included a download at the bottom of the main post to AngryBirds version 1.3.5 for those of you who want it to actually be playable. This older version doesn't have the fancy updated graphics that the new version has, and there is a minor issue with some of the backgrounds, but it DOES work and is way more playable than the latest version available on the market.

I will be finding the latest tweaks for the Hero and updating the main post as much as I can now (I just got over a nasty bout of the Flu, but I'm back now ;) )

So, apologies for being away for a while, but here is a quick update for those who wanted it!

Zeb
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Zebwen:
FYI, the baseband version on my Hero is: 63.18.55.06SU_6.35.17.03

If yours is showing the same as this, then your Radio update worked correctly :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] djrmx:
I have my Hero with your old update (13/12/10) with the flykernel 11 overclocked (352-691). Now i don't understand how to update only the flykernel 12 but overclocked. Help me please.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Zebwen:
If you download the file I have included in the original post, then simply rename the file to the clock speed you mentioned there, it should work correctly. FlyKernel 12 parses its own install file name when it installs itself, and sets it's clock speeds based on the name of the file.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] djrmx:
Pefect, done!

But with SetCPU i see that the frequency doesn't go under 518 MHz!! O.O
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Zebwen:
Not 100% sure on this, and I don't really overclock my Hero, I find it runs plenty fast enough with the clock speeds I posted, so not sure on the behaviour of SetCPU using the speeds you have set im afraid, your best bet is to check in the FlyKernel thread itself to see if anyone else has this issue!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] djrmx:
Ok, thanks. Now i have seen that some apps are corrupted!

I'm thinking it was better if i stood at the Flykernel 11. :(
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jagpilotcv:
thanks mate

wonderful....:-)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Beaverman33:
I saw this in the CDMA hero threads -

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=899801

Any ideas if this will work on the GSM variant?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Zebwen:
What apps have become corrupted? I've never seen this happen before, and I do a LOT of testing on my phone :P
[Hero, G2 Touch General] takuhii:
Zebwen's right! Unfortunately when you flash the Radio, the process isn't brilliant, it does just sit there saying Formatting Cache... even when it's finished. Luckily I know that formatting cache only takes a few seconds (wait 5 mins to be safe if you want), so I gave it some time then just rebooted, and my radio was updated.

If you want a REALLY scary ride, try updating the SPL, if that goes t*ts up your phone is bricked, no way back (apparently).

Enjoy!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] takuhii:
This is because of the Governer that Erasmux used, it will never drop below 518 while the screen is on, regardless of your settings in SetCPU. I think you have to chnage the governer to Interactive to get round this...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] takuhii:
Me again! This WILL work on a GSM without a variant, I'm running it with no problems. It is technically just a graphics driver, the CDMA aspect shouldn't come into it.

It's just a very manual process getting it "installed", and I backed up my original file AND did a Nandroid just to be safe. Anything that involves me MANUALLY editing an important config file and I will OVERKILL the backups...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Duckers:
Have you noticed any improvement with the new driver? I've read most of the replies from the original thread and there is mixed responses. Seems to be that people running gingerbread are seeing significant improvements.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] takuhii:
To be honest no. i thought it might help Angry birds run a bit smoother, but I can honestly say I see no real difference.

Gingerbread might utilise it's features more and implement it properly, as i have noticed a lot of DEVs compiling 2.2 ROMs with the Gingerbread compiler and getting a smoother running ROM because of it.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Duckers:
That was primarily my motivation for trying it out, to see if Angry Birds ran any better. I hope we get to see gingerbread on the Hero, sounds like a release from Cyanogen team will be slow coming judging from the announcement on their forums. I'm tempted to try the beta from cronos.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] takuhii:
I had the same motivation, but after having to do it all manually, I couldn't be bothered to remove it.

The CM team seem to be suffering from a lack of DEVs with Hero devices. Cronos is looking more likely as the first Gingerbread build, but I struggle to use their ROMs on my Hero, for some reason, when I run patches and stuff, they just break and i end up boot-looping.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Zebwen:
Its likely that if your going to see improvements, it'll mainly be in 3D games, which our little hero will probably struggle with anyway. Best bet is to fire up neocore and run a couple of tests, then apply the update and run a couple more to see if theres a difference in the scores. But from a general feel perspective, I doubt this is going to squeeze enough extra juice out of the hero to make a noticeable difference in most applications.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Boonja:
Just like to say a big thanks for this guide - I finally rooted my Hero last week, and followed this guide pretty much to the letter. Top stuff!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Boonja:
Just noticed an updated kernel - can this be flashed at any point? [/noob]

edit: of course I can, just do a nandroid backup first, just in case...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Faadiz:
How can I remove the inbuilt Facebook & Twitter application?

will appreciate your help on this!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Zebwen:
Do you know how to use adb? If you do, then do an adb remount, then adb shell and cd to the /system/app folder and delete the apps (im not sure on the exact names of the apks!)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Faadiz:
I dont know how to use it but I will learn it. Can i find ADB in the market?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Plysch:
No, adb is a part of the android sdk, which runs on your computer. A quick google search should provide you with the download link.

Regards,

Henrik
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jammimaster:
Hey guys :)

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to things like this! I am on 3 and i'm running the 2.1 update 1. My device is rooted, i used universal androot to do it. I have tried many times to put my device in recovery mode but everytime i get a screen with a phone and a red exclamation mark in a triangle. Please help! I have tried using the RA-hero image but i don't know what I do wrong. So if anyone has a spare 5 mins could you please give me a more simple guide starting from the recovery image thing? Thanks :)
[Hero, G2 Touch General] MisterBadguy:
I've come to accept that Angry Birds just isn't gonna run that great on my Hero whatever I do. It's not a huge deal to me anyway, the game is ultimately just a small distraction in my eyes.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Zebwen:
Have you tried using the version of Angry Birds that I posted in the original post? Runs fine on my Hero with minimal lag.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] takuhii:
This guide helped me NO end... Complete Newbie Guide to Root & Install a Custom Rom You don't NEED to flash a ROM again, you can just do the recovery install bit.

I just use Root Explorer to delete them from the System/App folder...

Darren
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jagpilotcv:
Can someone tell me why live wallpapers won't load on my hero?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] takuhii:
From what I gather, Live Wallpapers are just too intensive for the Hero. They are available, but they do lag, just don't load or even just FC on some handsets...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jagpilotcv:
Does that mean live wallpapers have no solution on hero.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] takuhii:
You can run them, but be prepared for the sh*ttiest phone experience ever, if it works!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jagpilotcv:
Ok I get that live wallpaper does not work on hero. But am wondering why features such as phone turning silent when turned over doesn't work on cyanogen rom whereas it used to work earlier before I flashed my phone
[Hero, G2 Touch General] timqqq:
Its seems cool , but did u OC?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] LennartvN:
First of all, big thanks for this ROM, I have tried it yesterday and it is indeed very fast. Yet it doesn't have a Dutch text dictionary, is there a way to import those?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Haizum74:
Ahh, that will explain it ;-), making up with the wife is the best thing though.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] maxhero:
I agree it is a very nice setup for my hero but I need a german dictionary. Is it possible to get out of here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=875202 ?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Zebwen:
Unfortunately I have no experience adding additional languages, although I thought Cyanogenmod supported German and Dutch? Your best bet will be to nip over to the Cyanogen forums, im sure someone will have posted the information there.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] GZFan:
As far as I can see is Cronos Froyo 1.8.0 faster...

Maybe can you update the topic-start?
[Hero, G2 Touch General] iHero96:
Yes new Cronos FroYo 1.8.0 is so fast.....
[Hero, G2 Touch General] jordanthezerg:
interesting thanks.
[Hero, G2 Touch General] moonzbabysh:
.............
[Hero, G2 Touch General] 36VAN:
thank you very much!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rhrs1987:
gprs and 3G no longer working

Folllowed

every

step for setting up the Perfect hero Setup (works very fast!) and all O.K, EXCEPT for gprs and 3G mobile networks that don't work, no signal, not anything... any clue as to what might be causing that?

I suspect that flashing the "latest Radio" had something to do with it, though I'm not sure...

Anyone?

Thanks in advance!
[Hero, G2 Touch General] marcher233:
Amazing setup process... You've just made hero alive...
[Hero, G2 Touch General] flyxer:
"installing the Clicker "

Clicker is offline.....
[Hero, G2 Touch General] rhrs1987:
what's VR12?

What's VR12? Been looking for the meaning of that term and I can't find it..
[Hero, G2 Touch General] Habarug:
It's a rom called Villainrom 12, but it's outdated as Villainrom 13 is out. It's an optimized version of the Stock android 2.1 rom, so it's Android 2.1 with Sense ;)
[HD7 General] chromedome:
Hi Guys

Has anybody noticed the signal-strength reduction when you pick up the HD7?

I admit that I live in a poor reception area, but I can have 4-bars on my phone and that will reduce to zero within a few seconds when I pick up the HD7. :confused:

Just wondered if this was a common issue

Regards

CD (UK)
[HD7 General] Jonno2343:
As far as I know, the antenna is at the bottom of the device (appears to be) and so putting your hand around the antenna should cause it to lose signal.

Try holding it a little higher up and see if you have the same results (maybe halfway up the device with 2 fingers? :)).

The problem with the iPhone was that it was one little spot that, if you touched it, it would short circuit the antenna and render it useless.

What you're describing is more an issue with all radio devices (wifi, gsm, etc.).

See what you can find :)
[Android Apps and Games] polstein:
New keyboard at: http://www.the8pen.com/index.html

I'm a keyboard geek, so I'll be trying it for a couple of weeks to see how it feels. If nothing else, looks kind of fun, but I have to say that my original hunch is that the learning curve is just too high for most people. The big question is how speedy an expert can be on the keyboard.

I've also written a couple notes to the team (no reply yet) with some early thoughts.

My biggest problem is the layout. I agree that a strictly alphabetical one wouldn't make most sense, but their layout seems ... well, I sure can't see the logic behind it. I've asked that how hard it would be to program it so we could make our own layouts (and for fun I made one that makes a lot more sense to me).

So anyone giving this a shot? After one day of use, it's slow going, but the delay is figuring out where letters are. If you know where the letters are (like I tried to type "This is a test" a bunch of times in a row) then it seems this can be a very speedy input method. Very much reminds me of shorthand or cursive writing on a keyboard!
[Android Apps and Games] thefunkaygibbon:
Installed and uninstalled, I couldn't get through the tutorial without problems...

but maybe i'm just 'slow' :p
[Android Apps and Games] w00tn3ss:
I wanna try it... but I dont want to spend a dollar on it if I dont like it... The DEV should have put a trial version on the market first...
[Android Apps and Games] liltbrockie:
You can uninstall it and get a refund within 24 hours...

I tried it, hated it... uninstalled it
[Android Apps and Games] polstein:
For the haters - I'm curious as to what you didn't like. Was it the learning curve? One look at a screen grab would confirm to me to expect to put in at least 2 weeks or regular use to get a feel for the keyboard.

I'm not sold on it yet, but I feel that 1 day isn't enough to pass or fail it. I'd still really like to see an expert with a couple months practice go at it (ie, if the experienced person isn't very fast then don't bother trying to learn).

App kinda reminds me of MessageEase - might be good but the learning curve is just so bad - you have to tough it out for a while to see if the payoff is worth it.

Oh - if the letters were in a different location would it matter to you?
[Android Apps and Games] liltbrockie:
I just couldnt be bothered to learn where the letters were and I felt like the program did not like waiting around for me to locate them... this is just like swype really but with swype you dont have to learn where the letters are...
[Android Apps and Games] torvick12:
yeah its pretty weird and difficult prefer swype or shape writer :)
[Android Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Interesting, but I note they have no real user typing in the demo....
[Android Apps and Games] xlarkascendingx:
looks weird hahaha i dont even wanna try it
[Android Apps and Games] nutweevil:
Its kinda hard because you need to memorize all the letters position. After that it can be really good. You wont need to look at the phone as we now must do.

I didn't try it for very long but the idea seams good. Will be hard to make it work because its so different from keyboard :\

Also, it needs other languages integration or i wont be able to use it as good as it is supposed. Because the letters aren't at the "perfect" position for Portuguese and because it also has a dictionary that is not working since it doesnt have portuguese.

If you can get used to it you probably wont be able to return to a regular keyboard :\

this just my opinion ;)
[Android Apps and Games] kr8r:
8Pen usage

So going on about hour 4 of having 8Pen on the fascinate and so far my biggest complaint is my finger sticks on the screen during long words.

All in all the letter layout is growing on me the more I learn it the faster I have been able to go. I did increase the diameter of the center circle\starting point and it actually increased my speed.

I wish I could move the backspace to the right side but overall the button layout works pretty well for me. It definitely has a learning curve, practicing certain words I am as fast as swype. Just like with swype i have found errors with long words or typos. The predictive text is not as as good but that is something I may have to tweak in the settings (of which there are a lot). I am going to continue to use it at least for a few more days.

With my thumb I can actually type (albeit slower) without looking for some letters now which means one handed usage is possible.
[Android Apps and Games] simeezee:
cool idea, but i think you need to memorize all the letters in the 4 sectors. that's will take some time for people to get use to
[Android Apps and Games] rdcrds:
Don't condone warez on xda
[Android Apps and Games] SomeGuyDude:
It's a dollar. Jeez.

As for the app itself, I could see this being a great boon for people who want to be able to type without staring at the keyboard. It appears intended for no-look typing, since the only actual spatial abilities you need are to hit the center area and move in 45/90/270/360 degree angles.
[Android Apps and Games] polstein:
I'll try the larger circle, but I actually practicing making as small of a circle as possible for better speed. Maybe I have it backwards.

I just re-watched their video, and they were saying their layout was based on figure 8 motions (as to why they put certain letters somewhere). I would rather have a longer learning curve IF it meant that I would reap the rewards of a more efficient layout later. Hope they knew what they were doing.

I also did a test where I took short sentences like "This is a test" and just did it over & over till I had it memorized. Then I compared typing it in 8pen vs Swype vs Ultra Keyboard and I have to say... it was pretty darn smooth and natural on the 8pen method. I'm kind of looking forward to getting to a point where I know where all the letters are just so I can really give this keyboard a more realistic test on day to day usage.

Also looking forward to being able to just have the 'dot/circle' and nothing else and confusing people watching me. When I get to that point, I might request a smaller vertical height to have less of the screen covered by the keyboard.

Finally, I have auto-correction & suggestion turned on, but I'm a bit confused on using the suggestions. I see if I type a few letters that my target word turns yellow - and if I lift up on the screen it will auto-complete.

BUT if I want to pick a different word in the suggestions I'm not sure how I'm supposed to go get it. If I lift up, it picks the yellow word. So I'm kind of drawing a straight line up, then lifting my finger then picking the alternate suggested word.

(BTW, with suggested words, they would need to eventually add custom dictionaries, make more common words the default, etc)

Have not tried 1 thumb typing, but will give it a shot. I can say that when I have the phone in my car mount (and I get better), this would be a great keyboard for entering quick things (short sms/map search) since you don't have to worry about hitting specific keys dead on. (no typing while driving, guys!)

Finally, I added a couple gestures for my 2 emails (a ^ and an upside down one) and that works very well. I forgot how useful gestures can be. In the video I saw them do a circle gesture, lines - I'll need to make a list of good gestures & figure out what I use a lot.
[Android Apps and Games] trillonometry:
its basically an awful idea. To learn a shape just to trace 1 letter... is like writing one letter... except a symbol for a letter.

The gestures are were it can get somewhat useful but I just dont think it adds enough to the keyboard to make it efficient. Even adding gestures is so similar to swype ..

I just cant comprehend how this has any benefits as far as speed goes compared to a swype enabled keyboard.
[Android Apps and Games] panguin:
I kinda like it. I'll admit it will probably take a good bit of getting used to, but then so did typing on a regular keyboard.
[Android Apps and Games] nutweevil:
even in swype you need to look to the keyboard. with this app you dont need to look as long you know the combination. i dont think is "an awful idea" as you say :\
[Android Apps and Games] r2hudson:
warez info removed

and i tried it for a good amount of time how ever it still doesnt compare to Swype or Smart keyboard.

ok i understand theres a learning curve, learning a new keyboard layout sucks when we are used to qwerty's on laptops and phones, but another this is that it will take longer swipes to get to certain characters and i just didnt find the keyboard as a whole convenient enough. but its a good attempt, and i hope to see others
[Android Apps and Games] billyandrewsy:
I tried it and actually agree. Based on the original idea of having a "unique gesture for each letter", e.g. down + left + right for the letter 'e' - then might as well scribble the actual letter as it will remove the learning curve.

Which opens the question, is there such an app (similar to the old palm phones)?
[Android Apps and Games] GoCkillaz:
Its different, to say the least. I bet that once I get used to it, I'll be faster. Its gonna take me more than 24 hours though...
[Android Apps and Games] ljbaumer:
Took me forever to type thìs on my Droid 2.

Just gave up right now, physical keyboard is waaaay easier. I think it is a good idea but it will take a while to remember where each letter is.
[Android Apps and Games] urwrstfear:
I tried it on my hero. Didn't do anything. No matter what I did nothing would appear in the text field. U could see the trace of my movements but nothing happened other than that. It makes no sense. Even if it did work it still makes no sense. Plus the letters are so small that the trace line took up 2 letters. How it would know which letter you wanted is beyond me.
[Android Apps and Games] Matchless 11x:
I am going to stick with it for awhile to see if It is better than any others I have used but so far I like it. It will take a little while to get used to where the letters are but with most words I use often I set up gestures that make it easy to input them.
[Android Apps and Games] polstein:
Graffiti is available for android. Search for it in the Market, I think it's free. However, it does have 1 flaw over 8pen - you have to lift your finger up between each letter. Not a huge one, but you lose the flow from one letter to another so it will never be as fast. Easier to learn, yes, but not as fast.

--

While I'm typing, I got to learn for about 30-45 minutes or so last night. I just kept doing song lyrics on a note to practice. I have the positions down for about all but the most uncommon letters.

Speed is now good, but not as fast as I am with Swype. With some words (the, and, to) word/muscle memory is kicking in, and I'm able to type them out *very* fast. This gives me hope that with a solid week or two this can actually be a very viable keyboard. I'm actually moving from the 'looks fun, but not realistic' to 'possibly can be an everyday keyboard' camp!

I do still need to think about each letter though which is the big hurdle. Once I get to the point where I'm no longer thinking about where each letter is, I expect a very sharp spike in typing. That's the point where I'll be able to compare 8pen to other keyboards for real speed tests.
[Android Apps and Games] madd0g:
If they wanted this to succeed, they needed a good promo video with facts about speed -> that you can be eventually faster then Stock keyboard, Swype or other. Without that, why even bother if i dont know if its even possible to be faster?
[Android Apps and Games] rori~:
I gave it up after 2days...:(