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[XPERIA X10 General] piercewei:
before 2.1 was released, a Chinese guy who claimed himself a local SE employee mentioned that next android plagship would load the latest OS but not froyo. most likely is gingerbread? i cannot verify his ID. but he did show many screen shots with 2.1. he also mentioned in the coming UXP update, mt could be applied with selected app.
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
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[XPERIA X10 General] macr59:
Yep!! Thats what I know. I got my information from a high ranker in SE. Also been told that X10's next update will be to Gingerbread. Reason being is that their next flagship phone will be released with Gingerbread and they are going to kill 2 birds with one stone. But knowing SE this wont happen until Hell Freezes over.......
[XPERIA X10 General] k1sr:
Now I don't like to speculate... Actually, that's a lie - I love to speculate...

Now, SE actually said they will support the phone for UP TO 2 years after its launch, which really means: we will support it for no longer than 2 years, and that's only if you're lucky... So this could possibly be the final update ever.

SE are also aware that they've pissed off a great deal of loyal customers (if they're not aware, then they're just bloody stupid), but while SE might be many things, they're not stupid.

So it's my thinking that they'd be pretty unwise not to offer 2.2 at the very least, as the consumer backlash would be pretty high.

They have, without doubt, stuffed up with the x10 (don't get me wrong, I'm 93.65% happy with mine), and they have a chance to redeem some of this if they continue to provide updates (and in a much speedier fashion).

Also, given Android is cross-platform, and so are 90% of Android apps, it's not too hard to conceive that any updates they do to their UX are going to easily integrate into their other Android phones. Result: whatever effort they're putting into newer phones can easily be ported over to the x10, and it would be foolish not to.

So yeah, I think we should at least get a fair bit of continued support from SE...
[XPERIA X10 General] Quasicoto:
Basically the uxp should be out next year q1. So there is at least one year left for their 2 year support.

But i'm wondering, does this phone support 2.2 and 2.3? You hear sometimes that it doesnt, but usually from people who heard from people who again heard from people and so on...

Also, isnt SE going to re-use the modifications made on the X10 family for their future phones? Theoretically that should speed up development.

Time will tell.
[XPERIA X10 General] notowork:
Move on guys

Move on guys,

You cant expect anything from SE, by the time we will receive gingerbread, other devices will have pancake ;) and so on and so forth.

Its better to dump x10 and Sony Ericsson and move to HTC or Motorola. personally i am waiting for the 2 Ghz phone coming next year.
[XPERIA X10 General] oneimunky:
I do think they will upgrade to 2.2. SE are the laughing stock of Android but are getting a lot of media traction with their PS phone to distract the negative publicity.

So this what I think is my SE roadmap for x10:

Q1 UXP Upgrade - we know this is commin

Q2 or Q3 2.2 upgrade

Q4 UXP upgrade

Kinda satisfys 2 year support doesn't it.

Anyhow I am happy with 2.1 upgrade - but it took far too long and some critical items were missed.

So SE have lost me as a customer - I will never purchase one of their phones again - but hey it is just a phone, pity I use it for work allot.
[XPERIA X10 General] Jmercy09:
lmao @ motorola...you can't be serious...
[XPERIA X10 General] notowork:
My roommate has milestone and it runs better than my X10!

It has a much better power management as compared to x10. I was always agaisnt Motorola but this time I will vote it as better than X10. Milestone has better hardware for 3g, display with multitouch and 16m colors. And we can olnly talk about possibility of 16m colors and MT.
[XPERIA X10 General] k1sr:
Tell you what though... if SE do provide updates to 2.2 or 2.3, they'll do it quietly and not jump the gun telling us too early like they did with 2.1...

This time they'll wait until it's good and ready
[XPERIA X10 General] mayamo:
dear santa

i want 2.2 for christmas.. please kick SE's ass and get them to start working on it asap..
[XPERIA X10 General] zodiac100:
Response

Will x10 get 2.2?

Answer ...No No No at least not from SE.
[XPERIA X10 General] bjy8138:
no way SE will giv u froyo for X10....

they r jus too stingy
[XPERIA X10 General] holland6045:
Personally i couldnt care less about 2.2....its not because i dont reaalllyyy want it...its because if we get that over 2.3 then where are we? back where we started thats where...sitting here with an outdated os and wanting an upgrade...which this time probably wont ever come.
[XPERIA X10 General] omnislash:
I don't know I read it somewhere that they will update to 2.2 but not gingerbread as the hardware is weak. But again on a different page that SE won't upgrade to 2.2 ... All rumors I guess.. Best is to wait and watch and whining again on their blog and here :-D
[XPERIA X10 General] paliwalsandeep:
No froyo for xperia i guess :(
[XPERIA X10 General] NightSidew1nd3r:
Well Sony Ericsson will be developing the 2.3 platform anyway, seems pointless to develops froyo now. So why wouldn't it make it to x10. They have another year of support left so if they had no intention of another upgrade they would then be supporting the x10s 2.1 and 2.3 for another phone. It does not make financial sense to continue developing 2 versions of the platform.
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
You're just a coward who runs away from quarrels when they get too hot for you to handle -_-
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Hmm.. I still think Sony Ericsson will focus more into producing a new, better phone to entice those kids who doesn't know how to spend their money wisely to get a new phone.

After all, they have already lived up to their promise to give us an upgrade. Now it's time for them to move on to a new project to make us buy their stuff again.

You can't expect them to just service us for free for 2 years, right? They are not making profits if we don't contribute into their corporate bank accounts for the next 2 years =/

But like I said before, I'm sure some people wouldn't mind spending money on upgrades. So why don't they wise up and make use of this advantage to get in more constant upgrades and charge us so that they earn from us too?

It'd be a win-win situation from both them and the consumers. =/
[XPERIA X10 General] NightSidew1nd3r:
Actually yes you can expect them to upgrade for two years, as they re already developing new version of the os, its not too hard to make it for the x10 aswell. And considering that most phones are sold on two year contracts, they would be foolish to not support and give the best experience to existing customers, as return customers are easier to sell to. Se haven't been round as long as they have by making stupid business decisions. If this phone does not receive another os upgrade within the next year I will be hugely surprised
[XPERIA X10 General] NightSidew1nd3r:
And im not looking for an argument, im stating my opinion. No one is right or wrong, we will have to wait and see what happens ;-)
[XPERIA X10 General] Bialynia:
That sounds like childish envy, your definition of "outdated" is a bit perplexing as well. Around a quarter of all Android phones are still on 1.6 or below, the large majority of apps work on 1.6. A plurality, over 40%, are on 2.1, with the remainder being on 2.2. Why would it matter to me that 2.3 is out if I have 2.1? I would rather have 2.2, which increases my phones overall speed, then to just stay on 2.1. I am very happy with 2.1 right now, it's a more mature OS then 1.6 was, but by your logic I should have stuck with 1.6 since what is the point since 2.2 is out??
[XPERIA X10 General] imugur:
You remember that I have connections with SE :-D I just saw the next xperia model that will be with gingerbread. It will have also HDMI output. I saw also the PSP phone that will come equiped with same gingerbread. I don't think SE will focus on froyo for X10, they will rather like to focus on the new comers. most probably there will not be any froyo on x10,maybe just some more improvements on existing 2.1

Mugur

http://mugur-ionescu.ro/tag/xperia
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Don't expect too much from the PSP phone, it won't be available to everyone. That's all that I have to say about it. Yes, the next Xperia will be with Gingerbread to start off, so Froyo's future on the X10 is slimmer. Also, the EOL of each model is 1 year, not 2. Every other company is also 1 year, so for those who want their phone to last more than 2 years, then tough luck. X10's EOL is end of Q1 next year, so if by Q1 we do not see anything for X10, it is most likely that there won't be anything new for the X10 other than XDA's community support.
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
afraid that SE dev team screw our x10 even more?

if and just if the PSP phone gets green light, then we can sat good bye to our x10 updates and phones and never buy anything from SE (and I mean it)

HTC here i go as soon as SE screws us more
[XPERIA X10 General] NightSidew1nd3r:
HTC outdate their phones faster than SE. The desire come out around the same time as the x10 and the desire hd is already out. And I also have a desire and its firmware is alot buggier than the x10.
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
I concur. =/

They upgraded our Rachaels to 2.1 because they had to save their initial embarrassments of launching a 1.6 phone.

So they made a promise to upgrade it. For free. Now that they've lived up to their promise, it's back to business to produce better phones to roll in the dough.

As for what others say about them claiming to support 2 years, I believe they meant by debugging and technical support.

So guys, let's be contented with 2.1 =D

At least we finally have our long-awaited Live Wallpaper~

Hehe
[XPERIA X10 General] goothu99:
the only chance i'll get the newest SE with the latest android is if they offer me a dam good rebate for returning this x10

other than not bye bye SE, prob use this for another year and then jump to samsung
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
HD7 is my option

you really think they will accept the x10?

it seems that SE wants money instead of loyal customers, this is my 2nd SE phone adn trust me my x1 was better sadly they didn't update it to wm6.5 those bastards and think that is going to happen to the x10 I give it no more than a year to be abandoned y SE
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Wrong, loyal customers is their high priorities too. I see it on their marketing slides on new products ALL the time. Also, u're obviously just raging. X1 had 6.1 which at the time was the newest Microsoft had to offer. 6.5 didn't come out until Q3 2009! That's a year AFTER it went on sale. Why did u think the X2 came out!? Back to topic guys! 2.2 Related plz!
[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
I agree on that, I have been using SonyEricsson for a long time and I have been nothing satisfied with their products and services. They do care about their costumers. However, regarding the 2.2 upgrade I think they either skip it and focus on their new Gingerbread products or waste their resources on it and by the time they release it people will start complaining again about Gingerbread.

So I say skip 2.2 and come with a new device that has the latest OS :cool: since obviously people will never be satisfied and will always find something to complain about :p no offence guys :D
[XPERIA X10 General] yeahyeahyeah1981:
I really think that 2.1 will be enough to keep their current customers happy. Another upgrade is still coming for the ui remember. For the most part customers are on 2 to three year contract so by the time 2.1 becomes antiquated most will be eligible for either an upgrade or contract renewal. I really think that non contract owners of the x10 are not a priority for sony or service providers.
[XPERIA X10 General] Astral07:
that couldn't have been more stupid

so you're saing that if i go and buy an SE phone for 500€ in cash, i am not important because i'm not on a contract so that i can pay them a little bit every month?
[XPERIA X10 General] loneLEE:
Hmm I beg to differ. I don't know how your country works, but in mine, you can get a phone on a discounted price when you sign up or renew a contract with the telcos here.

So stingy cheapos will just wait for their contract to finish or that they are ok to upgrade their handsets, they would pounce on the opportunity to get a new phone.

But, seems there are alot of kids in my country who don't know how to squander their parents' hard-earned money, so they constantly get new and better phones once they are out. Imagine some claims they change phone every few months?

I think Sony Ericsson targets on these big spenders. Not on poor people like us who only spend money every 2 years or even more, on a cellphone, unless it gets lost, stolen or unrepairable =/
[XPERIA X10 General] yeahyeahyeah1981:


People on a contract are big spenders. Te only difference is that you're provider makes up the difference. So in my case being with Rogers, they bought the phone at full price from sony and I paid a subsidized price(99$). Either way sony gets the full amount for the phone. So with that logic Sony's biggest concern would be the largest group of customers who undoubtedly are people under a contract with their respective providers and those people will look to upgrade their hardware in roughly 2 years or less which by then will allow Sony to introduce a new handset with the newer os.
[XPERIA X10 General] yeahyeahyeah1981:
First of all, it could have been more stupid. Secondly, on a contract you wouldn't be paying Sony "a little bit every month". You would be paying your provider a little bit every month and then some. The point I am trying to make is that the majority of x10 owners got their phones through a subsidized method with their providers. So the majority of Sony owners would certainly be more important than the minority when it comes to business practices. Sony only has to keep their customers happy for about two years then because after that point most customers move into the "eligible for upgrade pool". So they dont care if their phone is gonna get an upgrade cause they just want a new one regardless. At this point the x10 is about halfway through its life of being one of "the" phones to have. Simply put the x10 has another year or less of relevancy then it will be gone, forgotten, yesterdays technology. 2.1 + the supposed UI upgrade will suffice for 95% of current and soon to be customers out there.
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
but that's an endless cycle, I mean other companies update some of their old phones, we just don't get that, looks like SE wants us to have an ourdated phone all the time

2.2 would be a great hit or even 2.3, this could make SE richer and us more satisfied

latest OS+ cool looking phone+great specs+fancy phone (I know is kinda the same as cool looking but ppl here think that is a fancy phone xD)= awesomeness
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
Wih the time taken to get it to our phones no. Are you?
[XPERIA X10 General] Nankov:
Sorry but you are all a bunch if whining little kids... this phone is amazing and even with 1.6 still was for me as i chose it over other devises like the desire and the galaxy s with 2.1... i dont know why you all are worried so much.. 2.1 is very nice and fast ..that was a big improvementover 1.6 and 2.2 over 2.1 isnt that much exept benchmark scores...also who cares what SE release? i care about bootloader being cracked and being able to do whatever we want. All companies have short commings Htc, Samsung, Motorola all of them in different ways. New devices come all the time and if you try and keep up with hardware spec etc you will be spending crazy money for nothing..its just like computers (new hardware every 2 months) For me this SE device is very very solid and i have no problem my next device being an SE again.
[XPERIA X10 General] killerskincanoe:
Ditto
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
What's "Flash Web Browsing" ?

You want the ability to see advertisements?
[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
I never complained about lack of updates, for me the 1.6 in x10 was far too good and stable comparing to other's 1.6 os. And now with the 2.1 it has been more stable and noticeable improvements came along.

Some people rather the bootloader to be cracked, you either wait for it to be cracked or go with another handset, don't complain why SE locked it because they have right to do so. Plus look at HTC, in a short period they are producing a lot of handsets which in my opinion is not good because you'll get more confused on what to choose or forced to do a lot of research to figure out the best. While in SE, you got the x10 period.

2.2 is faster than 2.1 but I am satisfied with the later :-B
[XPERIA X10 General] kafkatamura:
2.3 AKA Gingerbread has some minimum hardware requirements. And Xperia x10 dont match them. ASAIK.
[XPERIA X10 General] C0mpex:
2.3 not more than 2.2 i think that's why it's not 3.0 and x10 will fully capable
[XPERIA X10 General] Jmercy09:
How so? Did google release information on hardware requirements for 2.3?
[XPERIA X10 General] Timbits93:
their basing it on the rumors when Gingerbread was rumored to be 3.0.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
Because you work for Google on their Android development team, can you tell us when 2.3 will be released?
[XPERIA X10 General] Bialynia:
Until Google says 500mb of RAM is the minimum then it is mere rumor and speculation, I have no doubt the X10 can handle 2.3, especially since the X10 runs 2.1 faster then the Nexus One did.
[XPERIA X10 General] mati_kutu:
I think we will never get froyo in our x10 :-D

Just enjoy myself with this eclair thing, and start thinking to sell my x10 lol
[XPERIA X10 General] dong2007:
There are many people who want 2.2 in X10i (Froyo)

But what has 2.2, as 2.1 does not have. Is it really so big difference? - No!

2.2 has:

The integration of Adobe Flash 10.1Wi-Fi hotspot

Optimized Android keyboard

Keep apps and games on SD card (apps2sd)

better security in the browser

Improved system

These are some practical things you could wish for your X10.

But it is a smal update.
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
+Improved perfomance and JIT compiler ;)

Just to compare 2.1 vs 2.2 perfomance, x10 and nexus one have booth almost the same hardware, now check this benchmark with JIT compiler enabled in our X10(default x10 is between 500-600 points)

This huge difference in numbers means a much better perfomance in real usage, specially when we are talking about loading and running apps.
[XPERIA X10 General] tr0llica:
yeah 2.2 is much mooore faster then 2.1 on htc desire

and it is still better to have newest OS version, because some new apps might work only work on the newest one ( like skype and many others now on 2.1, not on 1.6)
[XPERIA X10 General] frankie99969:
what is most likely here is that they will not commit to 2.2 until they are done with rolling out 2.1x, which i hope will be easier do without an android change.
[G2 and Desire Z General] eremeya:
I have been having problems trying to use some of the built in google apps... sometimes when I try to open one it opens an entirely different app and the only way I know of to correct that is by rebooting.

Have any of you had this issue? Is it an android bug or a g2 bug? How have you been able to correct it?

Thanks for any help you can give.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ilikepu:
wipe your phone
[Networking] BLiapis:
Is it possible? Like being able to browse my Windows7 shares (like Mp3s and videos) with my ppc?
[Networking] the_scotsman:
Yep, this is possible. You just need to use a file explorer that supports network browsing. I think Total Commander does.

Then just point it to the IP address of the computer with the shares on it :)

Of course this works if you are connected to the same network either via wireless or USB.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] iccy:
Are there anny multiplayer games or mmo´s for the TAB
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] vgt:
parallel kingdom is one
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] iccy:
tnx, not realy what I had in mind but I will trye it out
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] dagobert drug:
try "pocket legends beta"

i dont really like those mmmmm... games, but...

played it for about 5 minutes and its really good.

looks like world of worldcraft on nintendo 64 :0)
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] ftgg99:
Its more like Diablo with animals...
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] vgt:
pocket legends beta works really well and you get first 2 missions free to level up then you have to buy other lvls
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] deez1234:
Dungeon Hunter by gameloft is an amazing one. More of a hack and slash Diablo clone though.
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] dagobert drug:
he was askin for multiplayer games not multi npc games...

dungeon hunter, h.o.s. and gangster (would be nice;o) do not have mp modes. but the other gameloft games for tab do!

they are really worth to pay for (2,99€ for nova in germany)
[Galaxy Tab Themes and Apps] deez1234:
Pretend the npc's are real. Simple solution.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Hoodsey:
How can I root the version 2.1 on the X10i?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] gfgodoy:
You can't. For now...

One click root doens't work.

Binary method should't work as you must downgrade your phone.

I guess you should wait for decrypted roms to be flashable, the we stand a chance on getting root.

I'm not updating until I have root! No wireless tether is a no go for me.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] freco:
You can root. I did it already. Check http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=824788

Try the v1 file.