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[Vibrant General] ap3604:
I feel selfish and dirty saying this but in the back of my mind I personally love T-mobile doing this! :D

The people that tether/stream like crazy (slowing everyone else down) and hide behind contract terms of "unlimited" should be held accountable. A friend of mine showed me how he had use 93gb's last month and I was like "WTF are you doing man?! your slowing me down as well!!!" ;)

Go T-mobile slowdowns Go! :D
[Vibrant General] briankao1992:
You should try using ultrasurf at your workplace.
[Vibrant General] RobBull69:
Websense blocks ultrasurf as well. I really don't want to use a proxy, as there has been a firing over using proxies and VPNs recently.
[Vibrant General] YatimaMeiji:
There is a high low option in Pandora. Same goes for YouTube, it will default to low when not on wifi. But yea to be going past 5GB, you got to be doing some crazy things. We are all used to counting minutes(at least those who dont spring for the unlimited plan), so we can do the same with data, but yes it would be nice to be able to pay for the premium. Get the app 3G watchdog, it will track 3g data usage. It allows you to set the start off point, so just check your account at tmo, and put in the current usage and it will continue from there instead of zero.
[Vibrant General] kizer:
I've been surviving on Edge since the old days. Cracks me up watching others complain about Edge when they leave the battery sucking 3G on all day. Maybe thats why I have tons of battery life since I idle on Edge all day and fire up 3G and WiFi when I really need it.

Why stream music constantly when you can load up tons of music in the internal memory or SD card?

For the record Edge is not 56k modem speed.

Edge normally runs 70-135kbps with bursts to 200kbps. ;)
[Vibrant General] turbosix:
maybe i'm retarded but where the hell do you find data usage? i've NEVER been able to find it :o

edit:

finally found it, had to drill down into my specific line.
[Vibrant General] Chalup:
When you go over 5 gigs, they cripple your down speed to a fraction of that of edge. What you are experiencing makes edge feel like 10G.
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
Yea I really used 5gb just using the web and streaming videos and music! downloaded 2 movies from the mediahub! Yea sucks balls!
[Vibrant General] intruda119:
Slow down with, the porn man.
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
Yea stupid to drop people below Edge speed. Dont mind Edge but this is way to slow!
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
No porn man!
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
Yea tried the low setting on Youtube but it takes like 10mins to load a video. And Pandora Radio cuts out about every 40 secs or so.Dam ;(
[Vibrant General] intruda119:
on a serious note, do what I did. I got a 16gb sd card for music and just download mixtapes with a torrent app over night with wifi. I use a app called swarm and just load up a couple of torrents while your sleep. Use your data for youtube.

If your interested in hiphop and r and b try these.

mixtapetorrent.com or for mediafire mixtape downloads try hiphopthugz.com or datpiff.com

As far as I know these are legit websites for free mixtapes. Sorry in advance if these are against the rules.
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
Already got like 5gigs of music. But still like using Pandora Radio! Thanks
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
Personally, for me, when my phone is running under Edge, it is the equivalent of having NO INTERNET. A majority of the time Edge is so slow, that web pages fail to load. I could leave my phone on, and a site would take several mins to barely load.

In my opinion this is a non-functional data plan at that point. I understand unlimited internet technically isn't unlimited 3G, however, I do believe that someone can make a strong case in court, that when speeds are throttled down to Edge, the internet functionality is rendered useless, and thus could be classified as being "LIMITED" internet.

It's like getting an unlimited voice plan, and talking all day long. Then the phone company says "oh well you talk too much, so I'm going to cut down on your voice transmission so you can only hear bits and pieces of your conversation." Essentially the phone call would be useless right?

I think if someone is smart, this is the angle they will play in court. Fine T-mobile, if you want to advertise as "unlimited" then at least the phone should still be able to functionally access websites when you decide to throttle abusers.

Personally I've never hit the 5 or 10gb cap, but I know how it sucks to run Edge. Edge=NO DATA
[Vibrant General] blueman9:
At least you're not stuck in a city with no 3g. I am in training in pensacola fl, and 3g is unavailable. Sadly tho I would rather stick it out w/ tmo than switch to att or verizon. Well at least I'll be out of this internet black hole in a year-ish

Sent from my Vibrant, using the XDA app.
[Vibrant General] eck0728:
This is why I went to Sprint I mean their cs is **** but with a 4g phone you get unlimited 3g data for a fee ofcourae but 4g has no cap. Also t-mobile is digging themselves a hole. Giving faster speeds with a 5g cap
[Vibrant General] eortizr:
If you use tethering, like I do, you will reach it easily.

But I'm on At&t so no limit for me....;)
[Vibrant General] brian_v3ntura:
just manually switch to 2g..you will get faster speed compared to leaving 3g on and being throttled. when you go to settings>wireless and network >mobile networks> network mode ...2g will be named as gsm on ji6 roms. idk abt jfd roms.
[Vibrant General] nirogu325:
Agreed. I've done it before and got at least 25kb/s. Faster than 7 on 3G, indeed.
[Vibrant General] iynfynity:
I'm one of those unfortunate people who don't have a 3g coverage in our places. so my speed is so slow.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
It's slow because you're not on EDGE. You're capped to 64kbps. That's 1/4 of what EDGE can do.

I'm also capped right now. If you want faster speeds, DISABLE 3g. Force your phone to 2g, and suddenly you won't be capped down anymore.

Capped 3g

EDGE is not capped
[Vibrant General] Shack544:
Hehehehehahaha...I totally agree
[Vibrant General] jmattp:
Does anyone remember when mobile data didn't even exist? I'm only 29 and the idea of having a tiny computer with high-speed internet in my pocket is still pretty amazing to me.

I remember when it took several minutes just to connect my computer to the internet. And I would have to reconnect a few times because someone would pick up the phone and disconnect me. Downloading a picture of a big-haired girl in a bikini on BBS gave me enough time to make a sandwich and eat it before checking back to see if the download completed. The only cell phone anyone in my family had was larger than the house phone and only worked in the car because it was F'n hardwired to it.

Louie C.K. did a bit about technological advancement and how people ***** about it when things don't go as smoothly as they usually do.

OP, I'm not saying your frustration is invalid. People responded with a good workaround for anyone who gets capped. But I can't help but think about how quickly our technology is improving, and how silly it can be when we get upset when things go back to the way they were only a few years ago.
[Vibrant General] jaekidd1012:
That is a great point and most people get too wrapped up in the here and now to put things in perspective like that. It was but less than ten years ago when the internet in ANY form on a phone was mindblowing but now we're on the cusp of having near-T1 speeds in our pockets.

Back to the OP, EDGE speeds suck especially when being used to being spoiled with HSPA (or HSPA+ if you're lucky). I try to use wi-fi when I know I'm gonna be at a wall outlet for some time as to stay under that 5 GB data cap as I check e-mail, web surf and use YouTube and Last.fm (when it's not busy FCing on me) daily. Not to mention, I get several texts a day and being stuck on EDGE would make my internet experience that much more miserable. Your next billing cycle can't come soon enough!
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
Thanks but already switched my vibrant to the 2g setting but it made no difference at all. Still only pulling in 0.25kb at the most using the speed test app and some times its so slow it wont even work. Lol and im in Seattle. got like 4 to 7mb when I was using 3g speeds! Thats a crazy speed drop if you ask me!
[Vibrant General] Shack544:
Ahorrible -

I'm with ya on a few points here. My multi drive brute sits idle in the corner spot nowadays. Things will shift back eventually, but for now I'm still tripping with my 4 month old Vibe. An amazing device, and the Android sys works well, even with the lags and coughs that happen. Admittedly, local gurus walk all over the Sammy dev's as well - I mean I should blame Sam for not unlocking the power that was avail with the hardware to begin with! Still an incredible li'l piece, Folks...you're holding something you paid for, so friggin enjoy it for a change.

Yes I'm spoiled now, wifi'd to my 25mbps home cable. True, but I still fondly remember my first custom built Acer box with 2400 bit/sec baud modem. Entertainment and "chats" found on local bbs's, as Internet was non existent. Connect to an out of town bbs and you are "long distance" with your phone co.

It was still a fun time. We weren't *****ing. :)
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
.25kbps?

If your speeds are less than 1kbps, that has absolutely nothing to do with throttling. Either you misread/misposted, or t-mobile's network suddenly went stone-age.
[Vibrant General] Dragoth12:
You can force your phone to stay in 3g mode instead of auto and the throttling won't effect you.

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[Vibrant General] Dragoth12:
Yeah....sprint "4g" (lol), which you have to pay an additional 15 bucks a month for and has a limit of 10 mbps down. T-mobile is capped at 21mbps down and that should increase to 40 plus next year...

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[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
uhh. Yeah. It does.

The throttling doesn't lock you onto edge. It caps your 3g speeds. It's 3g only.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
The T-Mobile throttling is not Edge Speed, it's lower than Edge. Edge is 2.5G and almost as fast as a low 3G connection. It's totally usable, since I surf on my phone in low reception areas with just a couple bars of G, no problem. For the record: G < E < 3G.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Edge only sucks if you're trying to download huge files. For surfing the web, using YouTube app in normal quality mode, syncing background data, and installing apps from the market it is more than usable.

I live in a low reception area and can surf fine on just G, which is slower than Edge, so you certainly are overstating.

5GB is more than enough for a month. If you're going over 5G, then I don't know what to say. I hate to sound like I'm trying to tell people who to use their phones, but tethering is about to be charged for and I don't know many people who stream that much Pandora or Slacker, seeing as how they suck so much.

If you want true unlimited Data with no throttling, Sprint does it.

Don't complain when they start throttling/charging you, though.

If you use > 5G in a month you definitely don't want to pay for overages. It would probably break you pocket considering you're probably using the phone for way too much, anyways; though the thought sounds reasonable when you're frustrated...

You'd probably come out ahead getting a free 3G/HSPA+ Netbook and paying for that than paying for the types of overages you people would rack up.

Most consumers don't even go above 1GB, and only a small fraction go above 2GB, so these data-addictive use cases aren't even approaching close to being normal.

As far as the court comment goes. Keep in mind the Android browser defaults to loading Desktop Versions of web pages by default in most cases, and it's not T-mobile's fault. They didn't develop that software. The whole point of throttling is to either stop you from using data or severely limit you data use. You'd be laughed out of court for making that argument. The judge would be like... "isn't that the point of it?"
[Vibrant General] MasterColdSoul:
First let me say I have yet to be throttled by TMO.

But for those saying you have to be tethering to go over 5 gigs thats just not true.

(rant)

I know there was plenty of months I went over 5 gigs using Edge only and this was on my My Touch 3G.

Beyondpod:Auto download podcasts at night

Roms: Downloading new roms

Youtube, Slacker, Pandora... etc.. etc...

I use to use 3G watchdog to monitor my data and would make sure I never got throttled but I came very close a number of times.

So to me some things need to happen..

Either all these cellphone companies need to remove these caps or they just need to STFU about how you can use your phone to do all these things (I see these commercials all the time). Yeah you can do all those things for a few days or a week and then your going to be like a crippled horse trying to win the Kentucky derby.

If I can't use my phone to download the podcast and listen to it then why am I paying all this extra money when data is the ONLY thing I use? I mean I use a average less than 30 minutes of talk a month and I am paying near 100 dollars a month?

Sorry, I DESERVE unlimited data for that price considering people have unlimited talk and will chat for thousands of minutes. Well I am the reverse I pay for extra talk (1000 minutes a month though 450 would suit me fine) because I know I will use extra data.

So if all the phone companies go to limited data I will just setup a MIFI at my house, get a prepaid minutes phone and save 20 bucks and get the same functionality with the exception of not being able to do it on the go. Thats not my preference but TMO (what the 4th largest carrier?) seems to be pushing away some of it's customers.

Did I mention this is why I go pre-pay and no-contract so I can leave these crap companies when they decide they want to rape my pocket book for more money and less services.

And yes edge is worthless and I live in a edge only area, so crippling me to SLOWER than edge is retarded considering I only get 3G when I am not at home area (which is 90% of the time).

Also they just added HSPA+ to the region just north of me, but no 3G even for my area.. now this lowering of the cap? BS... complete BS.

But anyways everyone is completely wrong if they think you can't go over 5gigs of data without tethering, I have done it multiple times and like I said I spend 90% of my time on edge without being throttled. I haven't hit it recently mainly because I took one of my podcasts off which was regularly 1-2 gigs a month. (/rant)
[Vibrant General] MasterColdSoul:
I hate CDMA but atleast sprint has 3G here in my area, TMO doesn't. Now add on they will let me pay for real unlimited data?

Sorry but sprint is starting to look like it's a good bet. Especially since it seems the Epic has a sim slot which is a big + for me.

The day I get throttled is the day my vibrant goes on craiglist and I go buy a epic.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Yea, I'm thinking about ETFing both of my accounts so I can switch Carriers again. T-Mobile is the only one who gets reception here, but I'm more than willing to reactivate Vonage to talk while I'm at home and go to Sprint or Verizon.

I'm getting tired of contracts, anyways.
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
Well I get my 3g back tomorrow anyways! Start of a new billing cycle. Cant wait!
[Vibrant General] darkside79:
And Sprint has a data cap too. I worked for sprint for 2 years before getting laid off! Atleast Tmobile dont charge you for going over the 5gb cap. Just slower speeds. So thankful for that!
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
edge is very slow, web sites don't even load when I'm running edge.
[Vibrant General] caliga4221:
I live in an area where there is no 3g, all we get is edge... that said i am currently at 1.6 GB of the 5gb in my billing cycle and I can still stream pandora just fine. I dont know what will happen if I hit the cap but since I am using tether some when my local wifi is down I am sure I will find out soon enough. I wish I had 3g. Someone asked when I got my phone why i didnt wait for the vibrant 4g, I said 4g was a long way off for my area i did not know that 3g was not even active here at the time :(
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
It says I have unlimited MBs on their USAGE website.....
[Vibrant General] caliga4221:
correct you are not limited to actual mb number. However when you hit 5gb they throttle you down to a stupid slow speed. but you can technically still download data.
[Vibrant General] kolyan:
Yeah, you are right.....i didnt think of that.... :)

Is this anywhere on their website ?
[Vibrant General] caliga4221:
probably buried deep in the tos agreement but i have not looked for it. it falls in that category of "extremely fine print" or "definitions of terms - unlimited"
[Vibrant General] Longcat14:
Well technically, the throttle speeds are below EDGE. EDGE is around 25kB/s. At least that's how it is for me.
[General Questions and Answers] mtdense:
Do I need to delete my old rom that is currently installed(htc HD2) before i install a new rom: or does it overwrite the old rom and replace it with the new one. If it doesn't replace the new rom where do i look for the old rom data saved on my phone so I don't delete something I shouldn't have deleted.

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] rajasyaitan:
If you're moving to another rom then you should do a full wipe to avoid any problems later. Use Titanium Backup to backup your system data so you can restore them all back after installing a new rom.
[Wildfire General] nemuro:
Some places, the wildfire is advertised as having smile detection. What's up with that? How do I use it?

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_wildfire-3337.php
[Wildfire General] HOAP:
Smile detection is a software feature and not a hardware one. Perhaps the phone on the URL is shipped with a different camera app?

Otherwise you can have a look at the market and see if you can find a camera app with smile detection.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
So I got this HTC HERO yesterday from this guy.

I had a hard time getting it to switch/activate to my account on Metro.

Seems the MSL was reset and 000000 wasn't working.

Used CDMA workshop to find out what it had changed to, set it to 000000. Then I was able to edit the MDN MSID and get the phone to work and update PRL via *228.

But Data didn't work.

I used the universal root, used clockwork app to flash amon_ra recovery, made a backup.

And before I got a chance to edit the previous users' gmail/market info, he changed his password, so I couldn't find a way to change that. I used recovery to factory reset/wipe the phone and went through the set up wizard.

Data still doesn't work.

I flashed the Cricket/metropcs mms/web fix, but the phone has stock 1.5 on it, so that didn't make a difference. I am getting an error 67 now though.

Just tried to flash damage control, but it froze at the X animation after a long while or animating..

Just restored back up.

Anyone care to throw a dog a bone, I need some links/threads any help to get this working again.

thanks,.

-CC
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TpyoKnig:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=647249&page=2

page about switching phone from Sprint to PagePlus (Verizon) you will get the error 67 unless you are using sprint so diregard that, I dont know if these settings would work for you...but worth a shot right? :)

quick look up for info:

mmsc string: mms.metropcs.net/mmsc:3128

hahah sweet here ya go my man :)

Remove your MicroSD card and plug the phone into your PC via USB cable then open QPST (QPST Configuration, then go to Start Clients and select Service Programming) and then read the phone.

Once you read the phone, go to the m.ip tab and change from mobile ip to simple ip. Then look at the first 2 user profiles under m.ip open each one up and change the Nai to 10DigitNumber@mymetropcs.com, for both standard and tethered...

remove any ip address that you find in these 2 profiles. and remove any other profiles except the first 2.

also make sure both of them say enabled.

Now go to ppp config tab...

look at the tabs that say um and an... under these 2 tabs,, the user id should be 10DigitNumber@mymetropcs.com tethered id should be the same,, password is metropcs in lowercase on both tabs, remove any dns ip address you find in either tab also. just make sure all ip address are blank.

once you are completed with this make sure you write to the phone and move on to the next step..

Step 2.

click on phone icon (on the phone)

click on the dialer..

enter ##3282#

click user name

click edit

enter your spc which should already be 000000 by now

Here are the settings:

User Name "10DigitNumber@mymetropcs.com"

SPI MN-HA "1234"

SPI MN-AAA "1234"

M Home Address "000.000.000.000"

Prim Ha Ip "255.255.255.255"

Sec Ha Ip "255.255.255.255"

Rev Tunneling "Off"

AAA Password "metropcs"

HA Password "metropcs"

click done and allow the phone to reboot...

Step 3.

Now do ##3282# again.. this time go to browser

click edit

enter spc

youll see gateway1 and gateway2, under both of these

you will see primary and secondary,,, set primary and secondary ip`s for both gateways to 010.223.002.004,, they will all be the same ip address,, and set the Port 3128 and secure Port 443 for all gatways to ,, hit done and reboot.

Also this should work on quite a few other Sprint phones,,

This is what I do for a living at the wireless company I work for,, and so far it has worked on Samsung upstage, Instinct,, Sanyo katana, and many others,,,

all that info is from a page linked from howardforums.. :D heres the offical link: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...nstinct-Web-WAP-Settings-(working-100-)?pp=15
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
Step 3.

Now do ##3282# again.. this time go to browser

click edit

enter spc

youll see gateway1 and gateway2, under both of these

you will see primary and secondary,,, set primary and secondary ip`s for both gateways to 010.223.002.004,, they will all be the same ip address,, and set the Port 3128 and secure Port 443 for all gatways to ,, hit done and reboot.

Cool thanks, this is the only thing different from other guides I have followed. Appreciate your time and help.

I've seen people running phones on Metro without rooting or custom roms, so I know it's all got to be in the phone's settings, once it's been houdini "flashed" (esn added to metro's database).. That's how this phone came, guess we lost all the settings when we reset to factory somehow..

-CC
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TpyoKnig:
Did it work for you?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
Unfortunatly no. It is not saving the password in qpst. But if I look at the settings thru the phone with ##778talk it shows them correctly but still no data.

One tut I followed metions using the msl and proxy.metropcs.net instead. I finally got the phone to give me an error 131, invalid or wrong user name or password.

Read another tut that suggests using 10digit@pda.mymetropcs.net, gonna try that next.

Baffling, I've been doing metropcs phones since 2004 motorola razor. First android though.

-CC

EDIT: Same error, unit just can't get data :(
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
Anyone mind sharing your working ROM and or Nandroid back up? I would really like to get this Hero working again, it's not being cooperative :)

Thanks,

-CC
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TpyoKnig:
Clockcycle, what you need is the settings within EPST ( ##3282# ) for your provider and the APN File ?
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
Got it working, did 3 things. Changed password to msl made by whiterabbit site instead of metropcs or the phone's msl.. Changed 2 other settings; CDMA only and flashed token's 3 instead of 3.5.

Icon changed to 1x with data arrows and a 1x D, web, mms, market all working!

Thanks.

-CC
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TpyoKnig:
Hrm, i remember when I was flashing my phone from Sprint to PagePlus that the Data connection was reduced from EVDO to 1x due to the PRL , so maybe try an updated PRL so that you can get EVDO :)