yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
It is based off the current RUU but it is the same as the leaked version. They probaly work fine with rmk's leaked version because everything else is stock. I will have to do some more experimenting with rebuilding the framework adding one mod at a time in a different order to see when it actually breaks that one text box. If I remember correctly it is when I add the animated sync.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scope666:
Sounds like a great plan. I have a feeling you'll find it soon. :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I can't find a single ROM (other than stock) that the box isn't missing on. Somewhere along you mentioned one that did not have the missing box. Do you remember which one it was so I can see what they did different then me and everyone else.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scope666:
It's been awhile but I think Myn's Warm Two Point Two worked ok when I was running it. Also the Desire Z port seems to work ok. The only thing that has consistently worked is applying the .zip from a few posts back to RMK's 10/13 stock leak. Perhaps you could compare the icons in the framework-res.apk from zip to the one your using, maybe the graphic that "makes" the buttons is missing somehow?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jumbotron:
Hey Nils, is it ok to just change the mail.apk to an adb file instead if removing...if so, what does that actually do?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I wish it was as simple as an image. It is impacted by one of the xml edits that are done to add one of the animations. I think I am inches away from solving it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I think your question is can you just use adb to push a mail.apk file to /system/app.

The answer is yes. If you push a file with adb ( for example" adb push /system/app/Mail.apk ) it will replace any file with the same name in the /system/app folder.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] scope666:
SWEET! It's amazing that none of the other devs have been able to solve this, you might be the first! :-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Just wanted to let ya know Nils that I am trying your ROM out and def digging it! Looking forward to seeing what you have planned for it and appreciate all your efforts...
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks

Give it your best shot and let me know how it goes.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Will do, I was rocking Lou's rEVO for some time and then tested out Redemption 2.2 yesterday but I liked the look of yours and so far....so good ;) Will you be modding more of the different menu buttons as time goes on?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yes I will. I want to ease it in and not cause problems. I only really got into theming it lately and focused on making it stable.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Considering what happens to some of the ROMS out there that's def a good idea and slowly adding things in while keeping it stable and speedy works. If ya ever need a tester for something let me know.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apsawyer65:
Wow. It got quiet in here. You can almost see the tumbleweed rolling down the street.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
So the question is, is it because there are no problems or no interest :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] Manitook:
For me, there are no problems.

Just did a cache+dalvik wipe and flashover for the 3 to 3.1 with no issues or problems at all. Very stable with everything I need and very little I don't.

Great work, thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ptgay49:
^

After trying about a dozen ROMs since Froyo, I have decided to use yours (Business_Sense-v3.1). You have produced a beautiful, clean and stable product. And I appreciate your quick and informative reply to my PM. Please continue your very fine work!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] apsawyer65:
Definate interest Nils. Great ROM. I am now using this daily. Just need multiple Exchange accounts for work purposes but, I know you are working on it so I'll be patient. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
I've seen in a few other Rom threads where people are getting force closes and think it's due to the new Pandora update..any one having this with this Rom? I haven't updated my pandora yet so just curious.

Nils...this Rom is very nice!!!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jumbotron:
No probs!

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Typos sent courtesy of my Android phone
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thanks for the feedback. My experience is that if a ROM is doing well the thread tends to be quiet and will generally focus on requests and minimal problems. On the other hand since I don't experience problems does not mean other won't since everyone adds a different set of apps that can either bring out or cause problems.

I have no intention of dropping support since I enjoy it so much and I always figured if it stayed on the first 2 forum pages it was alive and well. HaHa
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Hey NilsP,

Not sure if it's possible but I know your working on th recent apps in the pulldown and was wondering if it would be even possilbe to say add the power widget to say the bottom of the pulldown? Coming from rEVO that was nice to have and limited the number of widgets you had to have but if you had something similar on the bottom and then recent apps on top....smokin!! Just throwing a thought out there and digging your work!! Much appreciated.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I will add it to my list. I think if I can get the recent working it could include the power widget.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Just in case anyone is interested in the download ratio here it is:

Trimmed versions = 64%

Full/Complete versions = 33%

No Theme version = 3%
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Nice..def loving this rom..no issues, fast, good battery life, and with the conservative icon theme I got a winner!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DroidBee:
hey NIls! I have been using the no theme for a while! and its great! I just had a quick question - so you just changed the themes files but every other functionality is exactly the same as your trimmed rom? THanks!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Correct. Nothing else removed from the full ROM
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crimsontide5:
Random, the messages process keeps fc'ing. {(App Messages (process com.android.mms)} Just started a few minutes ago. Has anyone else experienced this or know what may be causing it?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
What apps have you installed?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crimsontide5:
Nils,

I've installed Torque, MySettings, Tasker, Titanium Backup, RadioScanner, Daily Horoscope, Dictionary.com, and Blackbook. After sleeping on it, I have a feeling it may be Blackbook because it only started after I installed that.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
U

I think you may be right. Run it without and see how it goes and let me know.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ncwildcat:
I have seen in other threads where the market update rcrntly was causing lots of force closes on multiple roms. Maybe this is causing the problems

Sent from my personal space
[Droid Incredible Android Development] crimsontide5:
After uninstalling Blackbook the messages no longer force closed. So I re-installed to test and had the same problem. Uninstalled and it works fine.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
My guess is Blackbook may not be updated and causing conflicts with the latest messaging app. When I get back in town (on the road for a couple of days) I will see if there is anything that can be done.

That's assuming Blackboard is important to you and others are also interested.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rsarno:
Hello there Nilsp! I had a few stupid questions lol

1. Wasnt there a Business Leaked, version of this ROM? I am not seeing the thread for it anymore. Or was it merged?

2. I am running version Business_Sense-v2

What is current version? Is it thoroughly tested and ready to rock?

3. Im using kernal 2.6.32.17

Is this the latest one you are recommending? If my goal was battery power, or performance would you suggest something else? or stick to this?

4. I notice this thread was on pg2, are the updates slowing down? I mean are you now moving on to a different project?

Your ROM is so stable that in the last few weeks i haven't even THOUGHT about ROM's one bit! I forgot i even had a custom ROM loaded haha! Love it!!

Keep on chuggin homey. Good stuff! Happy Holidays
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
No such things as a stupid question..

When the official came out I just updated it (leaked and official are basically the same) and merged it and changed the title rather than start a new thread.

Version 3.1 is most current and was just release a few days ago. In my opinion worth going to for enhanced graphics/theming and updated applications. From feedback here and PM's it is pretty solid.

That is the most recent released kernel and the one included with this ROM. It works well with this ROM.

Nope, not slowing down. It is easy to slide to page 2 since half of page 1 is stickies. Also, threads tend to run slow when there are no problems to report and fix. I won't worry until it gets to page 3 HaHa

That's my plan. Actually planning a 3.2 in a few days
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Had to throw that 3.2 out in a few days didn't ya...now I'm going to be checking even more now...lol
[Droid Incredible Android Development] ptgay49:
To Nils ~

Your 3.2 has nothing to do with Android 2.3 (aka Gingerbread), correct?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
So sorry :D

Will not be rushing it out since it is only minor things right now like the fix the the G-Mail text box.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rsarno:
Woohoo! What to expect??

Also did you ever get the recent apps to show up in dropdown? Just curious
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
I think you just wanted to get this to page 44 faster! lol :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
Thank you two question

Nils ...

Thank you so much for this ROM. I've tried other Sense based ROMs and some vanilla ROMs and this is by far my favorite.

Two quick questions:

1. Do you have a PayPal or some other account set up to accept donations for your continued development efforts?

2. How do I set pictures to save to my SD card by default? When I checked the Camera >> Settings, the option to change phone storage is grayed out.

Thanks

Strike
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JoeProcopio:
VERY SMOOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i tend to run about 2-3 roms on rotation, and this one is the go to first when it's time to change....
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I wish but no.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Donations are not necessary.. I do it for fun.

I don't understand the problem with the camera storage. Mine lets me switch back and forth with no trouble. Which version are you on? I assume you have space on the SD card. I am not sure if it makes a difference but is it formatted at FAt32?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hub1:
Great ROM Nils. I have only one problem, when I use the Youtube app it plays clips fine but when I try to go back to the list of clips the app freezes, then my phone reboots.

I am running the full 3.1 version and everything else runs great. I don't use a lot of apps(23) and all the ones i use are rated 4 1/2 stars or better.

Any suggestions?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
This is a known problem with the app as it happens with other roms. Only fix is either playing thru htc or when your in the app exit full screen before pressing back.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] hub1:
Thanks fitness12, I guess I can stop troubleshooting now ;-)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
No prob buddy :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] indybong:
Great ROM, thanks for the hard work. I hate to be 'that guy', but is there a way to remove the Optical Joystick Wake feature? It is getting bumped too often in my pocket.

Thanks,

Brian
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Sure, deleting the following file and restarting should do it

\system\usr\keylayout\curcial-oj.kl
[Droid Incredible Android Development] indybong:
Worked perfectly! Thank you.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Question of the day.

I am tinkering and beginning to like the wider Rosie launcher but can go either way.

So, based on the thumbnails attached, do you prefer the wide or narrow Rosie Launcher?

NOTE: If I don't get any major opposition I will go with the wide in the next release. The downloads in post 2 will allow you to switch back to the narrow.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Cool Just remember that unless the majority wants the OJ wake out you will have to do it again on future versions.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
I'm a fan of having it in, every other rom I have to go into rom manager and download from ihtfp69's section so one less thing I have to do :) I know it's not the rom but if it could actually work every time smooth that would be nice but it's all good :)

I like the wider rosie but I use launcher pro due do the widgets offered and that you can hide apps from the application list but if I did use stock wider is better :D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rsarno:
What if we donate for fun? You are depriving us of our joy :(

Drop the link damnit!! haha
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rsarno:
BTW I have no idea how it works, but is there a reason this is not in Rom Manager?

Or is it? I looked quick and didn't see it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jumbotron:
Wider looks nice! Is there a way to add in the aosp animation where the apps fade/jump to the screen instead of sliding up?

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Typos sent courtesy from my right thumb using XDA app
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rsarno:
Tinkering with latest version

Im setting things up and im noticing this rom might override the opening-speed control within LauncherPro

Usually i set it to 10, and the app tray pops open in a heartbeat. Right now it is still a very slow fade in

may or may not have anything to do with your rom tho, just thinking out loud
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
No reason not to do it just have not gotten around to it. Just need to create a couple of scripts and submit them. I should just go ahead and do it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I will look into it. I know it is in the framework so it may not be too difficult. I just got the animations working to my liking so I can see about making it even better.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
It is more than likely Spare Parts which by default is slow so check that out.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I am trying but tinyurl does not like the button and html generated by PayPal so I will have to try again.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rsarno:
Has anyone reported random reboots with the latest version?

I was stable as a rock on v2

just upgraded to latest version, and just now i was on the phone and it rebooted while i was talking. phone was in my pocket, i didnt touch anything
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rsarno:
Something whacky is happening to me man!

I did a full wipe and installed latest version

But just now all of a sudden, my homescreens took the form of my LAST install!!

Widgets were where i had them, app icons are on my homescreen even though they arent even installed yet. if i click on one, it says "could not launch the specified app" or something

wth is going on, this is freaking me out!

This would most likely be why the phone rebooted also

PS i did not do a batch restore of any settings or apps. I manually re-added just a few apps so far, and changed settings by hand
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
On the forum, you can go into your UserCP and add your paypal link in there to get the brown donate button above your avatar.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
It sounds like you let google backup your apps and settings. Do another wipe, reinstall the rom, skip through the setup (don't enter your google account info yet). When you're done with the initial setup, sign into gmail. This will keep it from restoring your settings.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
That was exactly what I was thinking. That bit me once.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] rsarno:
I dont think i ever let google backup anything besides contacts. And when the rom was 100% fresh, none of the settings or apps were in place ... so nothing was restored.

And actually as i am typing this i just got a txt msg, and the alert was the one i set on my old rom, did not set on this rom .... so it looks like you are all right.

son of a bish ... how do i disable that haha. going to do fresh wipe right now.

damnit
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I looked there and can't find the option.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Happened to me before. I disabled it since, but I still set a new rom up the way I told you because who knows what google's liable to push to my phone. LOL
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Nils, go to User CP-->Edit Your Details--> At the very bottom, put in the email address that you use for PayPal and it will do the rest.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I looked and looked and now I finally see it.

Now to see if the button/link shows up.

Thanks
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
I see the link! :) You're welcome.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] N-Forced:
Is there a way you can post just the dialer from this rom in a flashable zip file?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
The dialer mods are in the dialer, phone and htc resources so it would be difficult to do and would undue any other mods that are in the ROM you intend to use it on.

I guess someone could pull the xml and graphics out of the dialer and phone and then the graphics out of the htc resource file and create a metamorph file but I am not into metamorph. If you are interested in doing that I could tell you what needs to be included.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jumbotron:
Brilliant

As always your openess to ideas is awesome, keep up the great work. Waiting anxiously for the update...eta?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] N-Forced:
That sounds great, if I can get a list of everything that needs to be included I can try and make a metamorph file.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
The following link is to a zip file that includes all of the parts necessary to create a metamorh for the black dialer. It is NOT a metamorph or zip-able file just the parts but with the file structure needed.

The 2 apk's in the app folder need to go into the /system/app/ folder without changes.

The images in the framework folder need to go into the com.htc.resources.apk in the sub folder /res/drawable-hdpi like they are in the zip file.

http://www.4shared.com/file/Blwx5Zh4/BlackDialerParts.html
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Thank you for my first ever donation. Not necessary but greatly appreciated,
[Droid Incredible Android Development] jermaine151:
Wow! You mean someone besides me actually says thanks for a donation. Gotta love NilsP!

Typed on my Incredible phone!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Quick ? Buddy, is the new update going to have any more menu icons themed or no?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] JermsMalibu:
Odd

Hey there Nils. I was wondering if you've been able to make a NANDroid backup once your ROM is installed? I've tried making one a few times but it gets stuck at backing up datadata. Back-ups ran fine when I was stock (rooted) and with Virtuous. Nonetheless, I love this ROM since it's snappier feeling than the other two.

Also, unrelated, if my battery gets up to ~100 degrees, then my phone reboots (and continues to until I cool the battery down). The weird thing is that it always fully loads the ROM before rebooting again. This also never happened with the other two ROMs. Anywho, I still love it and continue to use it. Great work. :)
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I am looking at doing more but since I have finished all the main ones like E-Mail, MMS and the main menu I am not sure what to tackle next without getting into every app. Doing that creates and interesting maintenance effort.

So, is there anything your specifically interested in or did I miss something obvious.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Yeah, one of my character flaws :D

I always appreciated it when I got acknowledgment of donations so I plan to do my best.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I do and have had no trouble. I always do it through ROM Manager built into the ROM and I have CM recovery version 2.5.0.5. I know that the later version of CM had a problem and was pulled.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Nothing major but I would like when you hit menu on home screen if those were themed and in my gmail the more button is done and that's it. The mail app icons are all done though. The market ones would be cool too. Again not life or death and would take the power widget and recent apps in pull down notification more ;)

Have I said how much this rom rocks! I'm trying ziggy's latest kernel right now and so far so good.

your work is def appreciated!
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
yah I think it is nice as well to show thanks and just means more than donating and not hearing anything.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] DopeShiziot:
those last two, the power widget and recent apps, those are HUGE mods. literally thousands of lines of code for the power mod, and quite a bit for the recent apps. you need to give him some time, dont expect it right away, its not something he can just drop an apk in to add.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
What version are you on. All the main menu icons like All Apps, Add, etc. are already themed.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Oh trust me not expecting fast or at all even just thru that out there the other day to make the rom rock even more as a suggestion :) I'm good with how it is now
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
I'm on the themed version but not complete version one and I'm using launcher pro...does that matter?
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
LP could be overriding some of the icons because many of those icons are in Rosie.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] N-Forced:
Thank you for this, appreciate it.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] fitness12:
Just my luck, if I give ya the code could ya theme it for launcher pro? : D
[Droid Incredible Android Development] N-Forced:
Hey I managed to create a flashable zip file for just the dialer, it works perfectly too. Thanks again for the source files, I posted the dialer here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=850963
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I can confirm that the battery functions on this kernel has greatly improved. I just returned from an 1800 mile round trip with the navigator running and listening to books and a few calls and the battery % never dropped. As a matter of fact it charged to full every time with the car charger
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
Nice job..
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
Yes Nils -- I have an 8 GB SD card coupled with whatever internal storage there is.

I shouldn't have said -- I CAN'T MAKE PHOTOS STORE BY DEFAULT ON THE SD CARD.

My real question is -- how do I? By default it seems like they are saving to the internal card / storage.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] strike3:
Nevermind....

Ahhh...I feel so stupid. I guess I just didn't see the option in Camera > Settings before. I have changed my photos storage to 'Storage Card'

Thanks.
[Droid Incredible Android Development] NilsP:
I wish I could but since LP is a commercial product I should not mess with it. Sorry