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[Vibrant Android Development] PSP_Hacker:
Absolute madness. I think I saw a dragon fly over my router...

Devs seem good, with 5 phones ready for testing, and 4 of them being completely stable even with benchmarks. This is amazing!

Holy hell, we're overclocking a damn phone as much as 60%; while PCs are being overclocked with good thermal dissipation, we have a thin plastic shell with almost no ventilation! xD xD

I wonder how much and if the processor or other components will get damaged by this mad voltage increases. Can someone post at least the battery temp. after 10 minutes of overclock to 1.6 Ghz (min and max scaling) and at full load?
[Vibrant Android Development] Insomaniac10:
i dont have any official reports but i havnt felt any unusual heat coming from my phone after running this kernel for a few hours and very heavy use

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update on my market issue: its the market not the kernel
[Vibrant Android Development] FRuiTBoOT:
Anyone noticing Slower download speeds? Shows 3 Bars on 3G but not getting good data connection on the market place. Could be a Network thing. Just checking.
[Vibrant Android Development] Insomaniac10:
there are issues with the market today, most likely related to the release of the Maps update and everyone in the world downloading......sucks for Team Whiskey for it being on the same day they release this kernel, cause everyone who flashed it thinks the kernel is causing it, its not

ill post it just so anyone who skim reads wont miss it:

THIS KERNEL IS NOT CAUSING YOUR MARKET PROBLEMS, THE ISSUE IS ON THE MARKET SIDE
[Vibrant Android Development] Whitehawkx:
It's not the kernel. I think its been determined that the market issues everyone is experiencing is on Google's end. The market isn't downloading and I wasn't able to dial out through Google Voice.

More about this kernel: Been running this since last night and still have experienced no issues. Quadrant, Linpack, Neocore, Nenamark = All did their thing without a problem. I still can't believe how solid this is in it's alpha stage. Just a testament of things to come. Once again, outstanding job guys! :D
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Agreed

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] cervantesjc:
Installed this on top of kk's, and phone freezes every two minutes, had to do a force reboot to get it working, went back to stock, any body having this issue?.
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
99% of the time that just means your phone can't handle the OC.
[Vibrant Android Development] cervantesjc:
Sad =( i wanted to try this out.
[Vibrant Android Development] FRuiTBoOT:
Yeah I didn't think it had anything to do with the Kernel, but had to throw it out there. Thanks for the response guy!!
[Vibrant Android Development] Klyentel:
on Fusion 1.1:

w/ Ryans' 2.2 Ext lagfix:

Quad- 3150 easy (first run)

Linpack -12.32

No problems, once so ever in a 8 hr test run.

Now that I've:

Flashed it, tried it, loved it...going back to Froyo!:D

Good work!
[Vibrant Android Development] Insomaniac10:
read my post.....

.....it was not directed at you
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
This is still Alpha. I'm sure they will have a release that is not OCed from the start. That way people can figure out just how high they can go by using SetCPU to slowly step up the GHz while still getting all the other tweaks they must be building in.
[Vibrant Android Development] cervantesjc:
that's true, or maybe there is a bug that doesn't allow certain phones to OC?
[Vibrant Android Development] andeeroid:
it's kinda irrelevant to the topic, but why is it that G2 can achieve Linpack Score of 55, but only 10 to 12 from Vibrant? (or any galaxy S)

What does higher linpack score exactly mean? :O

One thing I understand is that it has something to do with speed or some performance. (or I do not have a single clue because I'm wrong about this too? :D) Anyways, isn't vibrant with bionix fusion much snappier than G2 despite the linpack score difference?

I'm asking because alot of people are so happy about getting 12 linpack score which is only 2 points up from 10. :confused:
[Vibrant Android Development] pdspatrick:
Clock is definitely slowed down since i flashed the kernel... maybe has something to do with the animations being all slow?
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
in this case, factors can both be the code that Viral and Morfic used for the kernel OR the CPUs/GPUs that we have.

myself i can OC to 1.2Ghz easy. i was able to use my vibrant for 9hours today with 1.6Ghz, with music and web(browsing is faster, 3G is faster too), but when i get to Gallery,NeoCore, or other 3D games, it all goes to hell.

Temperature is above what we have at 1.2Ghz. I get around 33-37celsius, that's around 98farenheit.
[Vibrant Android Development] Insomaniac10:
yah 3D seems to be the only issue that ive noticed so far, im sure they will attempt to address it in the next build. Everything else is butter, for an alpha kernel this thing is a beauty.
[Vibrant Android Development] PaiPiePia:
I wish we can control the GPU overclock on the fly, a good GPU increase is much better than CPU increase in my opinion (when needed thus on the fly). Only problem being I don't think there's a thermal monitor on the GPU. :eek:
[Vibrant Android Development] ledbetter.james:
So I have loaded this up this am. I knoticed that apps from the market were taking a while to starting to download and then they fail to download. Was running straight bionox

I then loaded the fusion and had the same issue, went back to bionix and was able to dl oclf, got it running. Then went to dl a couple of things, and no dice.

Has anyone else experianced this? Gonna keep it to see if it fixes it self. I use wifi @ home because of poor reception.

Btw, I got a 3441 on quadrant with oclf.
[Vibrant Android Development] Insomaniac10:
Ive posted about this twice in this thread.......its a market issue, not the kernel, most likely related to the Maps update and the whole world trying to download it.....almost everyone is experiencing it, not just tmobile....give it time
[Vibrant Android Development] creator2456:
Same thoughts from me. Nothing to do with this kernel or any others. Just a big draw on Google's servers right now.
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
it's kinda disappointing though, that everyone else get to enjoy their overclock (or scores) without problems and me (with 3 other people) sitting in the corner, taking out our batteries everytime we go and check our pictures. lol

but for an alpha version, it is going along pretty well. it hasnt shown apparent speedups (except bootup) yet but pretty soon im sure it will. right now it's only for high scores with benchmark apps. lol

Viral indicated himself that this release is a proof of concept, that devs can OC our phones above 1.3Ghz. He didn't say that this release will replace our current kernels.

(oh, i heard/read the devs talking about Media scanning to be removed on bootup. that it will only scan when an app,or file manager tries to access it! this will also speedup bootup to homescreen)

EDIT:

what's with the market issue, im not having that problem.

i just redownloaded all my apps (no titanium backup although i bought it) this

morning, no problems.

ALSO, for 35 pages, these people can't give "oh there are too many pages to go through"

bull**** for not searching the whole thread. c'mon guys stop cluttering the thread.
[Vibrant Android Development] ttabbal:
JIT. It makes a huge difference on a CPU bench like linpack uses. The trouble is, that benchmark gain doesn't translate to real life use. JIT is really good at optimizing the crap out of small tight loops like most CPU benchmarks.
[Vibrant Android Development] wu_wei_lion:
It's stable on my phone. I haven't had a single problem since I installed it this morning. I flashed back to stock via odin then did a clean install of fusion 1.1 JAC kernel before flashing this. Next I'll try some benchmarks
[Vibrant Android Development] Insomaniac10:
wierd, 3D is slow for me but it doesnt crash my phone....that does suck.....oh well, just flash a stable kernel and wait for a beta, i think its safe to say that good things are going to come
[Vibrant Android Development] rogerchew:
that made me literally laugh out loud, don't know why.
[Vibrant Android Development] ebullient:
Hold down the power button for ten seconds, no need to pull the battery ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] gfropr:
Ok I've read this whole thread and still haven't been able to find out if I need to reflash my ROM (Fusion JACs Kernel) before flashing this Kernel on top, or can I just flash it on top of my current Fusion JACs Kernel ROM, just want to be 100% sure before I move ahead.
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
NO YOU DIDN'T SEARCH THE WHOLE THREAD.

you can reflash (what i did) the whole Fusion ROM + this kernel, or you can go back to stock and start fresh then install this kernel, or you can just flash this kernel without reflashing your ROM. For the sake of all intelligent life, its a KERNEL, not a freaking rom that wipes data.

APPS

OS <---------------------------- ROM

DRIVERS

KERNEL <-------------------------- kernel

HAL (hardware abstraction layer)

HARDWARE

And for the record if you have any lagfixes like voodoo or ext2 take them out first
[Vibrant Android Development] livbean:
Don't know if this related, but I have double icons in app drawer for a few apps.

Sent from FUSION
[Vibrant Android Development] SeanFloyd:
fyi guys I tried to wipe my battery stats after installing this kernel and my phone got stuck in a boot loop so I had to go back to stock and start fresh.
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
screenshot please? maybe its rom manager?
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
i dont think you needed to wipe your battstats after flashing a KERNEL.

i think it's only for whenever you flash a new ROM?

Also, it could also be that your CPU can't handle this version yet. we'll both just have to wait for the awesome TeamWhiskey to fix it for us lowerclass men. lol
[Vibrant Android Development] SeanFloyd:
Yes but I hadn't reconditioned since the last time I flashed Fusion 1.1 so I tried to to after installing this. It was working well for me for 6 hours so I'm not sure if it's a CPU issue.
[Vibrant Android Development] Insomaniac10:
I just noticed something.....the percentage of my used-up phone storage doubled??????
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
Here are some of the benchmark tests that make it

before my phone locks up.

These are all achieved with PERFORMANCE governor in SetCPU, except the NeoCore one that is at CONSERVATIVE when i tested it, if I put it to Performance and test NeoCore, it crashes.. lol

THIS IS CONSERVATIVE SCALE

there's still hope people, the awesome TeamWhiskey will deliver us from 1.2Ghz OC. lol
[Vibrant Android Development] livbean:
Restarted LP and that fixed it. Been running this all day and loving it.

Sent from FUSION
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Well, here I am, going on twenty hours since flashing. I've watched half a movie, downloaded apps, played angry birds, and zelda on the emulator, played a few hours of music, and plenty else. Other than the occasional weak hepatic feedback, NOT A SINGLE ISSUE. Even the battery has been phenomenal. I've been unplugged since 4am this morning, using the piss outta my phone, and I'm still over 30%. I'm astounded. I have a rocket ship in my pocket. You guys are gods among men.
[Vibrant Android Development] stephenj37826:
Ok I have noticed that as long as you leave it on conservative scaling the graphics are fine. The slow down only comes on performance setting. I ran neocore with it on perforce got 77.2 I believe but noticed the slowdown. Ran it on conservative and got a score of 57.2. Also same on hero of sparta.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Did you recently install oclf?
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
true!!!!

now i only have 617MB remaining in my app storage.

this is OCLF as far as i know...
[Vibrant Android Development] Insomaniac10:
yes, is that what it is??? ive never noticed it before.....damn that is a BIG tradeoff....hopefully they can incorporate voodoo into this kernel
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
when you use OCLF, it transfers all data to ext2 formatted space with your app storage (bind mounts). that makes the phone faster.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Yes sir. That's what did it.
[Vibrant Android Development] Insomaniac10:
gotcha, oh well, at least i have a choice......my vote for Manhattan+Voodoo!!!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
i shiver upon hearing that V word. it bricked my hardware locked vibrant...
[Vibrant Android Development] NikolaiT:
The Manhattan Project...I see what you did there. ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] djf8:
Be honest don't you mean you bricked your hardware locked phone lol.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
I've never had an issue with voodoo. I always manage to remember to disable it, but after trying both extensively, I think I prefer oclf, even after the partition it makes. I dunno. I guess it's just a matter of preference. I think you'll find plenty fans of both.
[Vibrant Android Development] Whitehawkx:
Hmmm... let's see if I can explain this without confusing anyone. Normal App storage is what? Like 1.9GB out of the box or something? When you run the OCLF lagfix it creates an ext2 partition inside your rfs data partition using bind mounts (it does not convert your /data to ext2). When I created mine I did the maximum allowed which turned out to be 1451mb exactly. So you are losing out on the difference between the two. Your app storage is based on how big you make the partition when running the lagfix. I hope that makes sense! :)
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
mind you, i used the disable_voodoo.zip and flashed it through clockwork.

Linda even told me its ok. once i got to odin, it froze up on me, then i took out the battery, and the dreaded icon showed up. RIP to my old vibrant
[Vibrant Android Development] Insomaniac10:
Voodoo is indeed a Nandroid-nightmare...causes many headaches for the careless/impatient user (im guilty of it as well)
[Vibrant Android Development] shep211:
Has anyone tested this on the captivate? I just returned my captivate to avoid 2 yr contract. I am goin to buy captivate off contract but I wanted to make sure it can run the same speeds as the vibrant. If it cant then vibrant it is.
[Vibrant Android Development] Jacosta:
Linda lied lol =)
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
oooh ooooh ooh!!!!

i checked the downloads section in TeamWhiskey's website and the link to

the Manhattan Project said

"-----TEMPORARILY REMOVED------"

could it be??? a new release??? :D

(man, xda is better than facebook)
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
You said it, partner!
[Vibrant Android Development] IDtheTarget:
OKARNG - prepping for AFGN. Were you one of the guys that deployed to Camp Bucca, Iraq back in 2007-2008? If so, we may have been there at the same time.
[Vibrant Android Development] jcc332006:
Where's the download link?
[Vibrant Android Development] gfropr:
Just flashed this, battery is at 120, started at 116, got it running 1600 200 conservative. Anything I can do to lower battery temp?
[Vibrant Android Development] blackerwater:
that worked. you need to flash kernel back support then this kernel and your golden. testing and booting now. awesome :)

Edit now im running stock ji6 and this oc kernel just fine....Thanks
[Vibrant Android Development] s15274n:
I personally think this is awesome, and also very happy with the Vibrant developer community. You guys are rocking it.

I hope this does not take away from developing on Fusion though, that's my Savior.
[Vibrant Android Development] Lavundra21:
wow.. im speechless.. my phone rebooted so much faster than usual its crazy. i think im one of the lucky ones whos vibrant has been able to take everything thrown at it. thank god. ive flashed everything onto this machine and have had no problems. but this by far is the coolest thing ive flashed so far. yall dudes are amazing with what you share with us..
[Vibrant Android Development] kboater:
thankyou for being such active great developers :)

if running fusion with JI6 modem do i need to flash the back support files?
[Vibrant Android Development] djf8:
Flashed this and applied oclf.....running very fast and stable on Fusion 1.1 w/ji6 modem flashed.

Sent from my Fusion powered Vibrant.
[Vibrant Android Development] kboater:
which lag fix? oclf from market? If so, does it have any problems with larger NAND like voodoo does?
[Vibrant Android Development] Daddy_617:
These are my stats w/o lagfix

Quadrant 1305

Linpack 12.318

Neocore 55.9
[Vibrant Android Development] blackerwater:
seems to stick at 1600 . temp seems to be running at 111 degrees and vibration is noticeably weaker but im not seeing any problems other then that this is great for a beta
[Vibrant Android Development] Viralblack:
Alpha, and the vibration issue is actually the OCLF, theres an update today over on his i9000 thread. (Noticed it too, researched a bit and found that earlier)
[Vibrant Android Development] :
Question I am on bionix fusion 1.1 with jacs oc how do I put this just download it then flash to clockwork and I'm done?

Sent from my wavy vibrant ! :)
[Vibrant Android Development] SeanFloyd:
Thanks for the chance to check this out.
[Vibrant Android Development] blackerwater:
im impressed. wonder if you could add 1400 to under-clock? also you seem to be running at 1622? is that the next step?
[Vibrant Android Development] tsalate:
Im running fusion 1.1 kk can I flash this directly
[Vibrant Android Development] bootsie99:
Just flashed seems pretty damn snappy temp running at about 94
[Vibrant Android Development] :
How did you apply it?

Sent from my wavy vibrant ! :)
[Vibrant Android Development] Daddy_617:
Flash through cwm
[Vibrant Android Development] :
O ok thanks how do you know if your phone can handle oc before you flash this? And I'm on fusion 1.1 I could flash?

Sent from my wavy vibrant ! :)
[Vibrant Android Development] iTylerA:
Running Froyo, but going to flash to bionix final and them the manhattan project. Will post results

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant running Froyo. Please excuse my Swype.
[Vibrant Android Development] Viralblack:
You dont really. You can try the 1.2 or 1.3 kernels out there and if they work find youre prolly ok to go higher.
[Vibrant Android Development] :
Yea 1.2 runs smooth on mine , I can flash this I'm on fuision 1.1

Sent from my wavy vibrant ! :)
[Vibrant Android Development] ledbetter.james:
Thanks so much, I was worried that I wouldn't b able to dl apps. I'm glad to hear that I was the only one with thus issue. Thanks.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Haha! No way. Yep, I was in 3/2! That was my fourth tour! Got shot for the second time too. All Iraq, though, no AFGN. My brother, on the other hand just got home from there. I'm starting terminal leave in a few days. Can't wait to be a normal person again, and move home to Philly. You keep your head down out there, soldier!
[Vibrant Android Development] jcc332006:
edit edit edit edit
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
That's probably because they're about to release a beta version. Keep your shirt on, it'll be worth the wait! :)
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
no i heard they will release a final version within a few hours.

source: my dreams.
[Vibrant Android Development] jcc332006:
Thanks! For The Update. I just got in came to the forums and saw this thread and immediately started having overclocked orgasms. LOL!
[Vibrant Android Development] M5devil:
Decides to go ahead with it and so far everything is very stable, not one freeze. Here is what score I got.
[Vibrant Android Development] hourst2:
Links reads:

Download -

Removed while core is being rewritten

Anyone with more knowledge than I care to elaborate on what "core is being rewritten" means? Could they have found an issue or might that be a reference to a beta version as has been mentioned? Might be nothing, but to someone unfamiliar with Kernel speak it sounds serious:)

Edit: Nevermind, it seems that it was an issue. Here is what the OP posted:

EDIT 10/28:

To update the project and to iterate why the download link was removed, the kernel seems to be misbehaving and we havent yet nailed down the correction as of yet.

As many people pointed out once it was released, the kernel seems to slow down 3D graphics. With this information and taking a day to go through all the options and data available to me, we discovered this issue isnt limited to just 3D graphics.

Imagine if you were running at 10MPH, and while you were running time slowed down but the slowdown didnt effect you. So youre still running at 10MPH but to the rest of the slowed down world, now youre running at 15MPH, even though your speed and direction havent changed.

The changes in the code for one reason or another arent playing nice with the Android system. Instead of pushing the clock up, in most cases, what its doing is simply slowing the internal clock down to the tune of about 30%. This is what is actually providing the benchmark gains that were being recorded, not an actual gain. This doesnt mean that the project is dead, we are recompiling to get a stable overclock with the new configurations. This doesnt mean the project was a failure, it just means we need to rewrite the alpha.
[Vibrant Android Development] Kubernetes:
That is very strange. So a Hertz is not a Hertz when running that kernel?
[Vibrant Android Development] drizze99:
Does this mean we should flash the KK or JACs kernel over top of this one?

If the answer to that is yes, do I have to disable the RyanZA EXT2 lag fix?
[Vibrant Android Development] gfropr:
My phone keeps freezing up, quick question, if I go into ClockWorkRecovery and flash the JACS bionix fusion ROM, will that overwrite the kernel and put me back to normal (pre Manhattan kernel)? I really don't want to Odin back to stock but will if I have to.

I also have a nandroid backup, I think its from the old Bionix, can i use that to get rid of this Kernel, or am I stuck going back to stock?
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
It's funny how many of you downloaded and flashed an alpha release, got so excited :eek: about your bench scores, just to wind up asking questions like, "where did the download link go," "should I flash back to another kernel," "should I disable the lagfix?" THEY TOLD YOU IT WAS ALPHA FOR A REASON. You actually got 30% less out of this thing and still thought you were cool :cool: because some app spit you out a high number. You guys are like people who just want to push the big red button.:p I'll wait until a stable release. Until then, keep up the hard work Team Whiskey! I'm sure it can't be easy with all these crazies.
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
i suggest you flash JAC's kernel again over this.

disable any lagfixes first though.

anyway, i thought things were sluggish and it was right. bootup was fast though.

no wonder i cannot get over the fact that it hasn't become faster, or changed at all

except for the numbers i see. lol

what's weird is, why do other users say that "they're playing 3D games at full speed and flawless and the phone is faster than before!!!! XD" when it really isnt?

unless these users are lying.

Viralblack, this isn't the end i know. so the next release probably will be ALPHA2? lol
[Vibrant Android Development] stephenj37826:
it doesn't seem to do it on conservative. i know its still clocked up though. i can play hero of sparta just like on jac's as long as im not scaling performance in setcpu
[Vibrant Android Development] Viralblack:
Basically long story made short is there is absolutely no danger to running the kernel, but the exact clock and benchmarks are not properly measured. The device's measure of time is skewed at the moment.

Were just changing some modules and should hopefully have it all resolved soon, may be today, may be a few days ;) We shall see