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[Desire HD Accessories] dlads:
Really why is that? are you using a dodgy rom or is it a more sinister problem?

Oh and just a heads up, the battery i bought from amazon is £6 and is pretty much the same as the stock battery, supposed to be 1600mah but i reckon the efficiency is where it falls flat on it's arse, shame cos for 6 quid it's a steal, it's ideal for a replacement if your no where near a charging dock and you need your phone.

Heres the link http://www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Tech...LME8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302275777&sr=8-1
[Desire HD Accessories] iavram:
2430 ?

Found this on ebay:

cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOLD-2430MAH-BA-S470-BUSINESS-BATTERY-HTC-DESIRE-HD-/260814736904?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cb9c50e08

Claims to be a 2430 battery. Anybody have experience with this ?
[Desire HD Accessories] nm8:
Try it and tell us how it compares. Im getting used to chargin.g my dhd every night now.
[Desire HD Accessories] gingy_uk:
I have noted a problem with extended batteries in general and have started a new thread to try see if there is a fix

basically the reason why it still states 1250mha is not because the battery is a dud or a fake, it is because the DHD does not change the value for mha in battery capacity from the reading from the kernel or system file. other phones do not have this problem and it is not ROM specific.

so, basically, the phone charges and uses the extended battery as if it is a stock battery. I have tried many calibration methods and have been in touch with Mugen

will update you of results. as far as a fix comes please see extended battery thread to see if anyone can devise a fix or a flashable patch to change these values dependant on the size of the extended battery used.
[Desire HD Accessories] mjehan:
That is why you need to delete the battery stats file.
[Desire HD Accessories] ViRuS3k:
yup wipe the battery stats file when using new batteries to calibrate.
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Can you do that without root? I thought root was needed.
[Desire HD Accessories] gingy_uk:
Done already. Mugen have no answer either they where not aware of this issue. Best option portable battery charger. I would not advise extended battery for desire HD
[Desire HD Accessories] mjehan:
You need to be rooted
[Desire HD Accessories] johnny8910:
Mugen 1500

I have been using the Mugen 1500 for 2 weeks and have had no issues.

I did clear batt stats and did 5 full cycles and would say i'm getting an average of 4-6 hours extra using this battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] kaze0010:
May I know what do u mean by you did 5 full cycles? Do u refer that you drain your battery to 0% and charged and repeated for 5 times? :)
[Desire HD Accessories] Grant Barker:
Yeah, I wouldn't bother with an extended battery for the Desire HD either.

I've had great results with a Mugen extended battery for my old Toshiba G900 but that had a battery case which covered the size of the phone and was easy to redesign to hold a large battery.

The next time I shop for a new phone, I will probably consider how easy it will be for Mugen to replace the battery cover with an extended one before making a purchase.
[Desire HD Accessories] galanakop:
looking for an efficient battery ... What do you propose
[Desire HD Accessories] Grant Barker:
Honestly, I'd just carry a spare one or a portable charger or something like that and switch off all of the eye candy, live wallpapers, auto updates, GPS etc. unless you really need any of that stuff. Battery life for me is good. You might try other roms and see if you get better results. I use CyanogenMod 7 [nightly] (unless I'm trying/testing others.)

Carrying a spare battery is no big deal really.
[Desire HD Accessories] kaze0010:
Android Revolution HD or Leedroid HD is better for Desire HD. More fast n stable.
[Desire HD Accessories] Grant Barker:
Yeah, they are nice roms. I try them quite often.
[Desire HD Accessories] nm8:
Me too. I have actually bought a Nokia E71 just so I can use it when going for longer trips. Can't rely on the DHD due to its crap battery. I only use it for playing games and internet at night now.
[Desire HD Accessories] justin0307:
Just want to say that Mugen 1500mAh has been awesome to me so far after two-three weeks. No longer that I need to worry about my battery during the day. Right now I can have the display on for 4+ hours and still have 30%+ juicy left.
[Desire HD Accessories] :
Wow, I will consider buying
[Desire HD Accessories] Instinctlol:
Looks good, I'm thinking about getting one, too.
[Desire HD Accessories] drive7:
Could someone remind me of the rationale that was behind HTC putting this completely inadequate battery in this device? Was it just down to space saving?
[Desire HD Accessories] woolysheep:
Exactly the reason for me to buy it also. Get through the day with juice left. HTC should have put this type of battery as default.
[Desire HD Accessories] arachnid1970:
so after buying and testing that "1800mAh" Andida Battery i decided to order a 1500 from Mugen right now... that all sounds good, next time i have to read threads before wasting money ;)
[Desire HD Accessories] psycho-mnts:
Got my mugen battery delivered today just 2 weeks after i ordered it =D
[Desire HD Accessories] Grant Barker:
I've had great results with Mugen in the past. This time I don't need more juice with my Desire HD and current lifestyle (or at least I've toned down the entertainment factor), but I always look to Mugen if I do need more.

Thanks for letting us know the 1500 is a good one. :)
[Desire HD Accessories] johnny8910:
Mugen life

Had mine for around 4 weeks now and it definatley gives more up time for me.

I went back to my original battery for a few days and was getting at least 6 hours

less

under my normal usage from the HTC battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] Grant Barker:
So what you are saying is.. you can keep it up for longer?

:)
[Desire HD Accessories] johnny8910:
up time

Mugen, the new Viagra.
[Desire HD Accessories] Grant Barker:
lol yeah.

Is that a Mugen battery in your pocket or ...
[Desire HD Accessories] toonartist:
I've been using the 1500 mugen battery for about 2 weeks now, high use (47% screen on) gives me 15 hours up time and normal / moderate use is about 24 hours up time, low use 30+ hours.

Duncan
[Desire HD Accessories] Grant Barker:
Hmm. I'm tempted to get one now. Maybe they will offer a discount for XDA members. As a repeat customer they might offer me a discount too.. Thanks for the positive reviews.
[Desire HD Accessories] Aston Martin:
Is it worth the £34 price tag? :confused:
[Desire HD Accessories] johnny8910:
Price

Even though I've had good results from the Mugen, I'm not sure it is worth £34.

Maybe 20-25 would be a good price really.
[Desire HD Accessories] arachnid1970:
I've paid 32 Euro, thats about 28 £

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[Desire HD Accessories] jonchan_2003:
Hmmmm... sounds worth considering have found a seller on ebay that sells them and ships internationally. Would be nice to be able to use my phone without worrying about charge. Plus then I can have 3 batteries for the long trips.
[Desire HD Accessories] abbacen:
I have been having dreams about this battery :s
[Desire HD Accessories] ashani:
can i have link for the ebay seller, i am considering one for my DHD
[Desire HD Accessories] Denngie:
I just ordered one from cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350460294037&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:1123 (had to remove http because of forum rules for new members)
[Desire HD Accessories] HamsterHam:
I have just ordered one :) Will let you know how it is once I have had it a while.
[Desire HD Accessories] ashani:
thanks pal :)... will try to order one today
[Desire HD Accessories] HamsterHam:
Great battery life so far. Approximately an increase of about 20-30%.

On my second charge cycle so hopefully will get even better.
[Desire HD Accessories] miahegypt:
i ordered this battery about week ago and my order still processing

i hate this kind of delay
[Desire HD Accessories] niatx:
I do not feel the need for an extra battery right now since my work requires me to bring a laptop everywhere i go.. But still i would like to know if its worth the price in your opinion? I mean, 20%/30% is not that much..
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
To me it's worth it. I'd rather be out somewhere, and use my phone when I need to, instead of limiting it because it won't last all night. Die at 9 or use it till midnight, or later? Your choice.
[Desire HD Accessories] muscad:
This thread swayed me to purchase the mugen battery. At first there didn't seem to be much of an improvement but after a few charging cycles I began to see around a 3 hour improvement with medium use.
[Desire HD Accessories] danjel96:
is there really big difference between original htc battery and mugen? :)
[Desire HD Accessories] muscad:
I found there to be a 2 to 3 hour difference with heavy use which for me gets me through the day not a problem now.
[Desire HD Accessories] MaorHassan:
for me as well, best 40$ i ever spent
[Desire HD Accessories] rioko:
im using the mugen 1500mAh battery and its workin fine :)

1 day at least are no problems with medium usage
[Desire HD Accessories] kuceens007:
my mugen 1500 mah in battery widget shows 1230 mah :( does anybody have like this?
[Desire HD Accessories] AdmiralGwiezdnejFloty:
anybody knows where to buy in Poland ?
[Desire HD Accessories] Twinspark156:
hehe yeah its like if you have it in your pocket and you meet somone

and they ask are you happy to see me or is it a brick in you pocket

you can say whitout lying its a brick :D
[Desire HD Accessories] nbyul:
Its like case with battery or

Just battery can use in phone

- DeSiRe HD with Olleh
[Desire HD Accessories] EddieBl:
I have read it's a widget problem, not the battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] rkanwar:
Has anyone tried these batteries? good thing is the battery is original size but what is the performance like?
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
look through this thread for user opinions, also this one

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=997060

Yes, it's exactly the same size as the stock battery, so fits inside the compartment.

I'd say the reviews are very positive, in that it does actually provide 1500mah's worth of battery. That's about 20% more than the stock one, could be the difference between running out (bad, tends to happen when you really don't want it to) and scraping through to the end of the day.

I bought myself a 5000mah battery pack of Amazon (NewTrent IMP50D) for GBP25, which suits my needs - of course it's like having another phone with you, but I only use it when doing long distance mountain-biking, so it's not an issue. each to his own ;)
[Desire HD Accessories] rkanwar:
would you mind explaining how the battery pack actually works? Im waiting for my student finance to come through so i can invest into either a new battery or a battery pack
[Desire HD Accessories] eozen81:
Yeah here it is, let's hope they will do the same for DHD :D

[YOUTUBE]Il1NBIJdx5M[/YOUTUBE]
[Desire HD Accessories] nokokoro:
ok so i got a reply from mugen today. a battery will be out at the end of nov. it will fit inside the DHD case (no extra bulk :) ) it will only have 200-300 extra MaH, but that will still get you some extra time :)
[Desire HD Accessories] leith51:
I got a 1500mah battery off eBay for under 10 quid at first its rubbish for holding charge died after 6 hours original lasted 10 hours same usage but now after a couple of charges I'm getting 12 hour medium to heavy usage plus it slides straight in no extra bulk
[Desire HD Accessories] Ethania:
I think I will get this aswell.

First the phone tough...
[Desire HD Accessories] liorra3:
is it safe to use mugen battry ? i know that is a great brand, but still, i am always

wonder, if the DHD can work with 1500m battry, way HTC didnt use it? there mast

be an reason for that...
[Desire HD Accessories] panyan:
if you look at mugen batteries, they are expensive, and perhaps HTC needed to hit a specific spec/price proint so had to sacrifice a little on the battery :rolleyes:
[Desire HD Accessories] liorra3:
dono, i think that 1500-1800 battery can get the device HOTER, thing that can hurt the PCB, and kill the device, dono, mybe that is the reason for the 1200m battery from HTC...
[Desire HD Accessories] AndyCr15:
So you compared the initial charge of one to the other, how does the 'run in' charge compare? 12 hours from the cheap eBay battery, what do you get from the original?
[Desire HD Accessories] LeviathanPT:
Im sorry but i dont believe this phone costs more than $100 to produce, so avoid going over a big cost of production due to a battery like that is something not believable.
[Desire HD Accessories] AndyCr15:
Eh? Whatever it costs in the first place is kind of irrelevant.

Lets say their mark up must be... 200% If it costs $160 to make, but the bigger battery would push it to $190 then you've just added $90 to the sale price. That will slow sales, even if they can claim so much better battery life.
[Desire HD Accessories] nokokoro:
the price point is likely to blame. Battery is one of the key things you sacrifice, for a sleek "cheap" device. also the material alone in the the galaxy tab is over 200$ so its not entirely unbelievable that the DHD cost over a100$to make.

the battery wont damage your phone, the power that comes out of the Mugen is identical to the original battery the Mugen just carries a bigger "reservoir" so it last longer. despite having some good battery specs compared to older models, the battery is still a huge trade off i think HTC made to keep price down.
[Desire HD Accessories] panyan:
i highly doubt that is true, just the aluminium shell that has to be milled and anodized will be very expensive, then youve got the glass and screen, camera module that is at least $15, etc

i would say that $100 is a VERY low value for production cost, i would bet two to three times that price!

the way a bettery works is that it is a chemical reaction that produces a voltage and then you charge it, it reverses the reaction into the original chemicals. that being said, a "bigger reservoir" means more chemicals and so potentially more heat from the reactions, in theory it would be hotter, but in reality, it wouldnt be any sort of problem at all :)
[Desire HD Accessories] mazzuli:
I remember from some news about Apple that their iPhone costs 164 dollars to make so I think the DHD is like 200 dollars to make..
[Desire HD Accessories] panyan:
i agree, the iphone doesnt have a unibody aluminium milled body, doesnt have as good camera module, doesnt have as good radios, etc
[Desire HD Accessories] AnvarSilver:
$187 according to isuppli.com. So I would say in the same ballpark for the Desire HD.

http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns-Ma...Materials-of-187-51-According-to-iSuppli.aspx
[Desire HD Accessories] LeviathanPT:
The galaxy tab costs $200 according to the latest news thats how i made the comparison, but still $100 of diference why not a better batery !?
[Desire HD Accessories] stispan:
Sorry guys but I think this thread is for Mugen Battery...Isn't it?:confused:
[Desire HD Accessories] m7svk:
Great News

great news, extended battery very soon !!!

http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/htc/htc-desire-hd.html
[Desire HD Accessories] hamtar0:
great news indeed!

i want to buy the phone, and knowing that there will be a mugen battery makes me

happier!

thx
[Desire HD Accessories] Ethania:
Good news. Like the fact that there is a better battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] rkanwar:
guys ive been searching the forum but unable to find what im looking for, the other day i visited the forum and found a battery pack which attaches to the back of the phone, same size and had three blue leds on the back on the bottom...i cannot seem to find it now so if anyone cna please direct me to the right direction...i am in contemplation between the two i.e. battery pack or a mugen battery. The reason why i am looking for the specific battery pack is so that i can carry it around with me as i travel on public transport and very rarely carry a bag with me to uni or when i go out.
[Desire HD Accessories] ByAnz12:
wow, i must bought this battery..but, i'm not money if know... LOL
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
Sure, it has basically the same dimensions as the DHD, but is just a battery. It charges via its mini-usb port - this cable is then plugged into a PC's usb port, or into the wall. It takes a while to fill up (6? hours) via the PC, which has a lower output than a wall charger).

Here it is: http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Trent-D...1OK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317999026&sr=8-1

To use it, you just plug in a usb cable into the battery pack, and with the micro-usb at the other end, you put that into the phone.

Earlier versions ran down independently of if they were plugged into a phone or not, but the latest one I bought only loses power when the phone is pulling it. The phone reacts as if it's on charge (which it is). So it will be kept at 100% (or charged to 100%) whilst there is still charge in the battery pack, then the phone battery will run down as normal.

This battery pack has 2 usb outputs, so you could charge 2 phones, or a phone and an iPod etc.

There are battery packs which go up to 11000mah! All on Amazon.
[Desire HD Accessories] rkanwar:
Thanks i may consider this...however as my previous post states i seen one which you can clip on the back of the phone as a case but also has a power pack on it.

Worst comes to worst i shall i just buy the new trent
[Desire HD Accessories] frakki:
Hey guys,

i've bought an Mugen Power 1500mah Battery. ive put it into my DHD and tried du charge it. But this isn't working. Ive plugged in my cable, the red led is on and the DHD says (AC mode). The battery however gets emptier... (now 28%)

What am i doing wrong?

I wiped my battery cache.. no changes...
[Desire HD Accessories] sp33dy_gtx:
I got to say that I get excelent battery life with my mugen 1500 mah battery

Replay to the guy with upper post

Ive got the same problem the phone says is not enough power from the chargin try to get the battery out and then plug it bag in
[Desire HD Accessories] tjfoo:
Anyone tried MPJ brand 2000mAh High Capacity Battery for HTC Desire HD?

Is this worth buying?
[Desire HD Accessories] smacer:
Well I've got 30+ hours of low use, when I flashed Revolution HD ROM (may be even 2 days, didn't measure specially).

Didn't actually measured heavy use... But in normal usage ~24 hours also is piece of cake...

Costs no money, but some free time to root/flash/restore apps... Perfect guides can be found here at XDA...

P.S.: Tried only Revolution HD 6.x and Cyanogen 7x... "Didn't like" CM, cause Sense has better usability 4me than stock interface... Staying RHD fan at this time :) But I guess CM can get great battery usage time also!!! And also 4free :)

P.P.S.: I also avoid buying such add-ons with doubtful value... So should everyone, because after reading >30 pages about this high capacity batteries, it's still unclear if they work well for everybody or it is just a self-calming posts about "increased time"... :confused:

PPPPPPPS: Aaand I've heard that disabling htcSense.com account is really helping to get more juice :D
[Desire HD Accessories] Dr. lele:
You mean something like this?

http://www.power-skin.com/battery-cases/ap1508des/htc-desire-inspire.html
[Desire HD Accessories] strnge:
i use the 1500 mugen battery and it gives me a slight better battery life than the original one.
[Desire HD Accessories] SANDR09:
Anyone can test Mugen Battery in "Antutu tester" ?

I can't give you link on it because i'm new member here, but you could download it in android market for free.

i need it for compare with my' Andida Battery (1800 Mah) and Stock battery(1230).

I measured with this parameters

1.3 Ghz CPU - Voltage 1.050

About Screen and Wifi/BT - program used self parameters (in my case program set screen - max, wifi - on, bt- off)

Antutu tester - default test battery

I got score 381 :( for Andida and 425 for Stock

Start test with full 100%

I part - left 73% (both battery)

II part - left 46% (both battery)

III part - left 19% (both)

Strange test...same value for different batter :confused:

but different score

Test time around 3h

Tnx for help
[Desire HD Accessories] Zeitraffer:
Edit:

I bought it directly from Mugen including their facebook discount.

Let's hope it doesn't take a month to arrive.

Is there any chance to buy this battery?

On mugenbatteries.com its out of stock.

All I see is overpriced like 60 US Dollars.

I live in Europe.
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
Bought one last week with the same discount, I recall it said it would be back in stock mid-Feb, then add 2 weeks for postage Asia to Europe. So should be here by the end of the month.

It was priced at €35, came down to €32.50? with the "facebookspecial" discount
[Desire HD Accessories] Zeitraffer:
So, after a month :D I finally received my Mugen battery.

I ran several complete charge and discharge cycles and Battery Monitor Widget Pro is measuring 1526 mAh.

I am happy with this result :)
[Desire HD Accessories] Hunt3r.j2:
Have you tried drain test from 4.2v to 3.4v at constant mA drain?
[Desire HD Accessories] psych0t1c:
I think I will just stick to a gum power pack.

http://www.amazon.de/Just-Mobile-portabler-USB-Ersatzakku-4400/dp/B001BWQTOC/ref=pd_sim_ce_2
[Desire HD Accessories] walda:
Thats the Mail i received on 3.11.

But i think he meant "100-200".
[Desire HD Accessories] tkolev:
Another cover?!? Are they kidding? Looks like a template answer if you ask me...
[Desire HD Accessories] Protongti:
Actually I just had a close look at the battery space on the DHD. The battery itself doesn't occupy all of the space at the back, there is space where the plastic battery cover seats and this has a hollow inside (waste of space in my opinion). This cover has parallel beams that keeps the battery in its place. If Mugen will be clever in thier design, they can increase the battery physical size without modifing the outer shape of the back of the phone. they just need to utilise this available space. This could mean they could add up to 400 mAh additional juice while maintaining the original shape of the DHD as oppose to 100 to 200 mAh on standard size battery they're proposing.
[Desire HD Accessories] alien79:
lol.... I so agree with you !
[Desire HD Accessories] llcooljazz:
Mugen Desire HD Battery - available to order
[Desire HD Accessories] SupremeBeaver:
wow 1800mAh!! nice

edit: they say its 200mAh bigger than the original battery... so is this only 1450mAh then?
[Desire HD Accessories] oliboli:
ebay battery for DHD

I ordered this one from HK free shipping....it's a 1600 with charger but hopefully will do it for me.....will see....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300490321222&ssPageName=ADME:B:BCA:GB:1123

:)
[Desire HD Accessories] llcooljazz:
I rang to ask - and the page magically updated.
[Desire HD Accessories] SupremeBeaver:
haha nice. i'll definitely be buying one of these.
[Desire HD Accessories] Ethania:
Damn, that is awsome! I love everyday magic!
[Desire HD Accessories] eozen81:
Wow, Mugen is so fast surprisingly came out with this battery. Now waiting for a review hero :)
[Desire HD Accessories] Milini:
Read this first and do not trust what mAh numbers vendors are telling you:

http://batteryboss.org/

http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/04...tery-manufacturers-deceiving-their-customers/
[Desire HD Accessories] BigMango:
Yep, so 1800mAh will give you around 1400-1450mAh usable, which is 200mAh more than the original OEM.

This sounds about right as 200mAh more is what Mugen told every one by email.
[Desire HD Accessories] panyan:
"Mugen 1800mAh vs OEM 1500mAh, both new, head-to-head - Despite Mugen's 20% higher claim and 226% price markup, results equal"

seeing as i usually have about 25% when i get home, im gonna stick with OEM :p
[Desire HD Accessories] indie13:
i've bought Mugen batteries for my Hero, Desire and for a laptop (EEE) and each of them out performed their OEM rivals.....I'd feed up with this crap that they dont do better than stock.......ra ra ra

The people who keep trolling this crap have either never bought a mugen or have bought a cheap china battery off ebay..... keep your nose out of these discussions!!!!!! Jog on!!!

Go Mugen! (and no i dont work for them, just love what they do)