yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Omnia 7 General] Tischbein:
Nope. Microsoft only said, that there shouldn't be a SD-Slot in the devices. The manufacturers themselves decide, how much GB they put into the phones. Have a look at the HTC Mozart. Here in Germany it has 16 GB, other countries only have 8. So HTC COULD choose the amount of space given to a phone and I bet Samsung could do it as well.

It's a bit of shame having just 8 GB, that true, but it's not Microsofts fault.

Edit: forgot to look at the specs on the german T-Mobile site. http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_122595-0-xxx_tariff_xxx-0,00.html

It will be sold with a storage og 16 GB. Knowing this I think I'll get one instead of the Desire HD.
[Omnia 7 General] xenonone:
Open Samsung Omnia7

First: get the Sticker on Top of the Phone up.

Second: Three screws under it, remove!

Therd: Swap of uppon plastic cover on top

forth: .....
[Omnia 7 General] arimozuki:
Why does Germany get all the 16GBs?
[Omnia 7 General] stewwi:
I don't know if this is stupid but dosent the part labelled as mouth piece in the bottom look like it could be an sd compartment. has anyone tried to open that part? Maybe a paper clip?
[Omnia 7 General] Milky1:
I thought it was already found out long ago it uses soldered on NAND chips not SD cards?
[Omnia 7 General] agp64:
Yes it has soldered NAND only.

And at the moment the only country that is getting the 16GB version is Germany.:(

I liked the Omnia 7 the most out of all the WP7 phones but 8GB is not going to cut it Samsung.
[Omnia 7 General] 001mic:
Where do you come from?

Buy it at a German retailer - I think they ship nearly everywhere (haven't look though)
[Omnia 7 General] agp64:
From what I have read so far they will not ship internationally.:(

Still cannot believe Germany is the only place getting the 16 GB.

A need a new phone now. Dam you Samsung why don;t you have the 16GB version available in Australia,Singapore or Malaysia.:confused:
[Omnia 7 General] mwako:
It's with deutsche telekom you can get the 16gb version.

Found the link.

http://www.t-mobile.de/shop/handy/0,4855,2963-_122595-0-10452;CNC-0,00.html

ohne vertrag - without contract = 609.95€
[Omnia 7 General] agp64:
Thanks for the link.:)

But I think I am going to buy a cheep phone for now and see if the manufacturers offer better spec WP7 phones some time next year.

It really is a poor first line up that HTC, LG and Samsung have offered.

It seams all the current WP7 have poor camera performance. Some have short battery life and extremely limited option regarding Memory.

All my friends have 32GB I-phones and manage to get 2 days use without a charge, And the photos seam to be better then most WP7 offerings. [ I will never own an I-phone.]

The new Os is great but the Manufactures are just supplying us with crap so they can maximize profits.

HTC in particular is extremely guilty of this, They used to lead with innovation but have dropped the ball this time around. [HD7 = Rehashed HD2]
[Omnia 7 General] gfreek:
I agree that the first line up of WP7 phones could have been a lot better (Worst culprit HTC expected better from them!) however I think the best of the bunch in UK is Omnia 7, my only gripe is why is it we get 8GB version while Germany gets the 16GB of this phone?

P.S. I was initially little disappointed with the camera quality on Omnia 7 as my old HD2 took better picture however once I played with settings it actually takes great pictures put it this way it's far better than HTC mozart and that supposed to be 8mpx? hmmm!!
[Omnia 7 General] mwako:
5mp is fine for a camera for me, Like yourself, first couple shots i was like "noooo"... then a few settings later and it was great.

I'm all for the Samsung, They DID go all out in my eyes trying to keep to cost effective. Nand storage = expensive per GB. 32GB of it and it's over £1000!!! for the speeds and requirements these new WP7 need. these first bunch of WP7 are for the likes of Zune fans/Streamers/Down loaders who have 3G+, great phone contracts, this ISN'T a pay as you go phone is it.....if you want the best from it.
[Omnia 7 General] Riccardo83:
Wow, thats amazing. Well I was gonna get the Omnia 7 16gb as I live in Germany. But was also thinking of getting the Dell Venue Pro since it has an micro sd slot which is easy accessible and only has a guarantee void sticker.

(Those stickers are useless in Germany within the first 2 years anyway and even after the seller has to prove that removing it caused the device to malfunction.)

Anyone knows if the dell has Nand internal memory or micro sd?

And is the difference in speed in the video above really dependend on the nand or sd memory or could it also be the device's hardware thats causing the difference in speed?
[Omnia 7 General] skeet94:
The load times are directly affected by the storage used on the phones. I also think the Omnia 7 is more stable than the HTC handsets (I'm a HTC guy!) mostly due to using NAND where the HTC still makes do with swappable (and hidden) sd cards.

The hardware otherwise is almost identical.
[Omnia 7 General] agp64:
As you live in Germany can you please tell me if you can buy this phone outright in a shop?

I will be visiting Berlin in Feb for work so would love to get my hands on a 16GB version.
[Omnia 7 General] BIG-Stan:
Yes, you can. Every official T-Mobile store should have them but they could/will be more expensive. You can try in different stores though. Some might have them as these shops sell all phones with(out) any contract.
[Omnia 7 General] agp64:
Thanks Big-Stan.

If I fail to find a 16GB before I go to Berlin in march I will pick one up while there.:)
[Omnia 7 General] emigrating:
I got mine online from Germany - cost about 520 Euros incl. VAT/Shipping. As I purchased it thru the company I could also deduct the VAT, so great deal.

Fully unlocked and the only branding seems to be the bootup logo.
[Omnia 7 General] gfreek:
That's a good deal! Which on-line retailer was it? any link?
[Omnia 7 General] rashdahs:
Thats great ,you are lucky to have the 16 gb , but could you send us links where & how to buy it too.

Thanks
[Omnia 7 General] BIG-Stan:
Hi rashdahs,

here is the shop where I bought my phones the last 6 years. Their prices are unbeatable but I dont know if they ship internationally. Pretty sure if you ask them nicely the will. Anyways, here is the link:

http://www.handytick.de/handys/samsung.htm

ps: Go for the cheaper one. It's also T-mobile branded and has therefore 16gb
[Omnia 7 General] kope31:
Hi rashdahs!

And everybody who's not located in Germany.

You can try the German ebay as well. It's cost apprx. €500-€520 £430-£450 unlocked version.
[Omnia 7 General] transporter5:
Last pics of my device

Hello together,

suddenly my device starts to reboot everytime i plug in the usb cable. So there was no more chance to load the batterie. Tried another batterie, but same issue. Today i found a pdf showing how to dissasemble the device. :rolleyes:

Tried to find the memory chip. So here are the last pics of my WP7... Maybe they can help somebody.

cu transporter5
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Limper:
looking for Build.prop file to debrand back to my original nordic FW Generic.

using uk generic atm.

so is there a collection some where i can find this?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ealax:
which file do you use to debranded? can you share it? I would like to try this method on my phone.

by the way I also use this code, how did you made it?

adb push build.prop /sdcard/build.prop
adb shell
su
busybox cp /system/build.prop /sdcard/build.prop.old
rm /system/build.prop
busybox cp /sdcard/build.prop /system/
chmod 644 build.prop
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Limper:
I haven't used Build.prop to debrand before, used SUSE.

But it doesn't work any more, but i heard ppl saying i could use Build.prop to do so.

so looking for the Build.prop for nordic generic.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PoTi_96:
SEUS?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodak:
Nordic generic:

ro.semc.version.fs=1227-4607
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ealax:
can you place the full file? in order to try
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PoTi_96:
collection? should i share my build.prop? its edited...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodak:
Just edit your file with root explorer :-)

Sent from my X10i using my thumbs
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PoTi_96:
i know ^^
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marice22:
Will editing the build.prop to nordic generic make the phone flash on sunday? :D

EDIT:

i have a generic - global rom, and also my values allready look like this:

ro.semc.version.fs=1227-4607

so i should be good i guess?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pato66:
I have a generic global, but the phone software is 1227-4612, and file system version is 1227-4607, is the same in the generic nordic?, that is the question.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nimche:
My PC companion doesn't work properly. What is it with this?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pato66:
???????????????????????????????????, that is the question, if software phone and files software is the same of generic nordic, the update will have to arrive at the same time
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] totalperception:
Not going to work

SEUS and OTA will read manufacturing data such as IMEI and be able to detect any spoofing. If you want 2.1 on your X10 and you want it before your carrier or regional version is released you'll have to rely upon XDA to find a way to bypass SE's new encryption on both the bootloader and ROM. They've stepped up to ensure that no retail device will get a version it's not intended to get through SEUS and OTA. In the future as other updates roll out and you have a ROM not intended for your hardware kit you'll realize one of two things - a bricked phone or that you've been patched back to your carriers branded ROM. SE doesn't care for the development community and they're not going to let us own their devices like we have Moto, HTC, etc...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SaintyUK:
Get you give your sources for that please? I find it hard to believe, as they've never ever done this in the past.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xd4d3v:
dont feed the troll
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MM32:
*add xperiax10 before and it is a net address

I used the tutorial from a post on here. /2010/04/14/debrand-your-xperia-x10-tutorial/

You may find what you are looking for here tho /2010/04/14/debrand-your-xperia-x10-tutorial
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] carlost24:
im looking for elegant steel theme for evils nxsense I know they have it for CM6 was wondering if it was available for nxsense?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] carlost24:
anybody???
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kf999:
Hi,

I've download the Android source with "repo", and it includes cross compiler toolchains for various architectures.

I want to build a package (for now, mtd-utils) for my android phone (a htc hero), but I'm having limited success understanding how to get this working. I was thinking there was something I could do, like change my $PATH and set up some other environment variables, that would use the tools from the toolchain instead of the system default ones, so that the binaries would be built for the phone instead of for my computer. But it certainly doesn't seem to be that easy...

I've reverted to attempting a "Hello world" program, but when I try to compile even that using the included toolchain tools, I run into trouble:

$ $HOME/src/mydroid/prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.4.0/bin/arm-eabi-gcc -static -o hello hello.c
hello.c:1:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
hello.c: In function 'main':
hello.c:5: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'printf'

so I tried a couple of other variants:

$ $HOME/src/mydroid/prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.4.0/bin/arm-eabi-gcc -static -I $HOME/src/mydroid/bionic/libc/include -o hello hello.c
$ $HOME/src/mydroid/prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.4.0/bin/arm-eabi-gcc -static -I $HOME/src/mydroid/ndk/build/platforms/android-8/arch-x86/usr/include/ -o hello hello.c

but they both give (different) errors about what other include files are missing when referenced from somewhere.

Is there some "easy" way to android-ify a source tree, so that I can build sources using the cross compiler toolchains? Or should I fetch a different cross compiler toolchain to use, like benno did in his document from 2007? He uses a codesourcery toolchain and builds with that instead (as referenced in other articles here on the subject).

Would much appreciate any shared tips or experiences on how to accomplish this.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] SilentMobius:
The tool chain is fine the problem is non of the include/lib are set up correctly to find the needed version of the includes. Remember the default includes under linux depend on glibc and android only supplies bionic.

Have a look here for more info on setting up bionic:

http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Compiling_for_Android

Though if you get the full source for glibc (or precompiled arm binaries) you could compile a dependant program staticly (I think that's what busybox does)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kf999:
Building for older versions of Android

I was actually able to compile a program manually today, specifically one of the programs in the mtd-utils package. After lots of jumping back and forth, I have found out that the 64 bit version of Ubuntu is what I needed, and also sun-java-1.6, contrary to almost all information I found out there. Then I was able to build AOSP, and then I was able to get "agcc" working, the wrapper that sets environment variables automatically as needed.

So I compiled the app, but it didn't work on my Android. Trying to run it in an adb shell gave approximately this error (from memory):

/bin/sh: ./program: No such file or directory

though the program was there. I didn't use strace, but concluded that this is because of a missing shared library. I have a very recent version of AOSP, while the phone is running Android 2.0 or something like that, so that's a plausable reason why this is happening.

I tried to rebuild the program using "agcc -static ...", but that doesn't work because I don't have the static version of libc after building AOSP, so it just dies with a linker error complaining that it can't find -lc.

So now I need to figure out how to build for old Android version using my checked out version of AOSP, or I need to figure out how to check out an old version of AOSP using repo.

Any tips would be much appreciated. :)
[Trophy General] Antonius123:
Hi,

Any one know when these devices are launched in the netherlands for t-mobile ?

Greatings

Antonius
[Trophy General] Seven_PRX:
You can order them now:

http://www.pdashop.nl/product/111653/htc-7-trophy.html

http://www.pdashop.nl/plan/?deviceproductid=111653&serviceplanproductid=0

Expected delivery 5/11. You can get them in combination with T-Mobile (and others), or if you already have a T-Mobile subscription, you can get the Trophy and extend your T-Mobile subscription.
[Trophy General] mtem1985:
you can also get the vodafone version.

Doesn't come with a sim-lock so your t-mobile sim should work fine with it.

I'm using mine with KPN Hi sim.

No branding on the phone, and the only thing showing that it is an vodafone device is the bootlogo.

And in the future i'm pretty sure we'll be able to change that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
And by that I mean, Christmas is right around the corner and though I don't celebrate it (:cool:) new phones usually come around this time. Especially now that Gingerbread is getting closer.

Plus there's that rumor about Nexus Two. Developer support+assured updates would be fantastic, though I'm still not sure just how useful it'll be without a keyboard (who needs Tegra 2 or whatever when you can only use it to play casual games?! Only other use I can think of would be 1080p streaming/output)

However, the G2/Desire Z looks like a fantastic phone and most people who are 'serious users' and did not receive a defective unit agree on this point.

So... are you going to wait?
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
We can safely assume, that most of the people waiting for Desire Z will not switch away to other phone. You must realize who are the people who preordered Desire Z - they are the ones who require a physical keyboard. And considering that so far there are only 2 phones in EU having physical keyboard (G1/Dream and Motorola Milestone) and only other 2 are announced/going to be released (HTC Desire Z and Motorola Milestone 2), there is no other option, only waiting.

And the chance of new phones till Christmas are pretty slim. Maybe something from Samsung, maybe Motorola will finally release the Milestone 2, but that's it.

Tegra, dual cores - for phones that's next year, end of next year. Yeah, you will see Tegra tablets in H1/2011, but that is 2011.
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
Exactly! .
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
How about waiting for something like this for those of you willing to settle with SwiftKey/Swype?

But then again, Sony Ericsson :(...

Edit: also, assuming the specs are correct we should be able to 'port' the games to the Desire Z's itty-bitty buttons.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Are you serious Pickx ? That ?

And because it's Sony Ericsson, it's going to be released on Q1/2012 and going to have Android 2.2.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Heh, not really. I've already got the Desire Z on preorder :)

I'm just seeing what other people think, since I certainly don't have the ability to get a new phone every 9 months.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wrapper:
I don't think they can delay it much longer - I want mine next week
[G2 and Desire Z General] TKCable:
Even they postpone the release for a month, I still want the phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roachie:
i heard that the phone is fake.
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
With all the delays I do feel a little like I've ordered the Duke Nukem Forever of the mobile phone world!

Valve
[G2 and Desire Z General] xspyda:
... or those that require the improvements the Desire Z brings over the Desire but without the size increase of the Desire HD?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Becksman:
It's not that there are real alternatives, are there?

So before speculating on the announcement of a not-yet-existing phone (and then again waiting for its delivery) I'll happily stick with my preorder. In three weeks (the latest) we wont look into this thread anymore and start to keep ourselves busy with real stuff again.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
The original launch date from htc was late october or november (fourth qt 2010)

If some stores play with their "preorder" dates, thats their problem, not htc's

No delay (or slight delay) = pointless thread
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
HTC said October, period. November is not "slight delay".
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
exactly ! :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] AgaZaKa:
I've been waiting a couple of years so I think I can wait another few weeks or months. I still use Tytn. I missed Touch Pro 2, I didn't need new phone then. And when I decided I need one, I thought that TP2 is too old to buy and I can as well wait for something new with keyboard.
[G2 and Desire Z General] LickTheEnvelope:
lol apparently you guys don't have the same "delay" rules as here in Canada. We've seen phones delayed for many months in the past. A couple weeks is a big deal?
[G2 and Desire Z General] JupiterDroid:
+1000000000

The truest words i have ever heard spoken on XDA;)

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrvanx:
A couple of weeks....even a month....is nothing. If a months wait for a device is long enough to panic, wine and prompt looking at something else then people aint living in the real world.

Dare i go down the......its just a smartphone......route??? :D

I am YET to see an official announcment which states october as the release for the Z and HD...........Q4 is always what ive seen, it could go until december for all I care geeeeze!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
sold my HD2 so no better things to do - will wait for my new phone
[G2 and Desire Z General] harolds:
I had a DZ (non 3G AT&T) on preorder but I canceled and decided to buy a Windows Phone 7 (WP7) Phone to try out, and if I decide I don't like it and want to go back to Android, I'll go back to my Desire and by then a custom rom with the new HTC Sense should be available and tested thoroughly for it.

2 Reasons:

1. The AT&T 3G version was going to be available about the same time.

2. Wanted to try out WP7
[G2 and Desire Z General] skulk3r:
handtec has just pushed it back to November 1st (2nd or 3rd delay by my count).

Unclear whether or not this date is actually something HTC has told them, or if it's just the vendor's wishful thinking.

But yes, a few weeks (they said sometime in October, it's barely November yet) is, in reality, not that much difference. It's just that we're all just so eager to get it..and I want it NAO!!!!!!!111oneoneone
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=144266&lang=1033

Is this official enough ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Haha,

Excellent post! Stick it to the man;)))

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] sdlopez83:
Well another phone in the mix as of Nov 3 is the Mytouch 4g /Glacier.. For those that say there are slim pickins!
[G2 and Desire Z General] eXase:
To be honest I'm sick of phones arriving in a beta state. I don't mind them delaying for a genuine improvement of overall quality
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
i'll make waiting acceptable by buying a galaxy tab tomorrow.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mk27:
It's not the delay that's bothering me; It's the keeping us in the dark and keep moving the dates with no official announcements from HTC.

It's like sitting infront of a dinner table waiting for cake i've ordered (from a delicious looking menu) and the waiter saying "it'll be few more minutes" and then he keeps telling me "the chef is having problem with the icing on the cake, you'll have to wait few more minutes" every 10 minutes.

It's teasing :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
HTC announced this phone only 1 month ago, now the release is imminent

Sony Ericsson announces a new phone and then you wait 6 to 9 months for the release (check my sig)
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrvanx:
Lol wow, is was pwned. :rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z General] ionut.micu:
I can't live without a QWERTY keyboard, in this moment I have a TP2, but I can hardly wait the new phone.

The thing that is killing me is that I don't know a release date, the online retailers in my country have the stock status set to "call for stock" or "coming soon" and Vodafone (I will buy the phone from them) are not saying anything about the new phones, they just advertise the Iphone 4.

Lets just hope that I can live for another week or two without the new phone :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] grenness:
The problem is in two parts:

1) HTC doesn´t give dealers a confirmed ETA date, they keep sending out estimated dates, and then change them (I have a source in a Norwegian dealership telling me this)

2) the dealers want the consumer´s preorders to "lock them in", so they tend to go for the earliest un-verified ETA date given to them by HTC ("hey, people, order your HTC here, we will have it first!") and then they wait until the original delivery date (or even a day or two past) to change to the next optimistic ETA date.

If HTC would start giving out better ETA dates, even to be more conservative to take into consideration last minute delays and instead deliver earlier than estimated, this problem would disappear.

Christopher

(I have a Desire Z on preorder, original unconfirmed in-stock-date was Oct 30, but on the morning of 30. it was changed to Nov 20)