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[Android Apps and Games] funkpod:
Hello, my Clockr Evolution gets stuck and sometimes doesn't update, even though it's set to force update. My regular clockr seems to work great.

This is for a droid Incredible, btw.

Thanks for your product, i love clockr and i support your work.
[Android Apps and Games] 3Shirts:
I have this sometimes too. Basically the OS can kill the service when it's background so it might do so when it either needs the memory (games often do this) or when something has been idle for a long time (which this will be when the screen is off overnight).
[Android Apps and Games] tominabox1:
honestly, I've never had a problem with my clock not updating when using any other clock widget. Clockr is the only one that doesn't seem to keep up. No dig at the developer, it just seems odd that this one is unique somehow.
[Android Apps and Games] saltorio:
Was thinking the same.

Also, I should note that I am

not

using any task killers on my X10.
[Android Apps and Games] wowthatisrandom:
how about a backup and restore feature for settings. i change roms daily 1 less thing to setup would be nice. (restore colors/date settings etc)
[Android Apps and Games] Schenley:
Zehro: I just wanted to put a vote in for keeping Clockr simple and not overloading it with tons of bells and whistles... Keep it simple!

[No offense to any suggestions offered]
[Android Apps and Games] mcmikecruz1:
Ya think its awesome where it's at clockrevo is the best just add transparency slider for background like battstat pro always use these two together

Thanks for all the hard work ,

Support this dev buy paid ver
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I'm almost ready to release a new update. Few more options have been enabled including:

- Positioning (left|center|rignt)

- Force 12hr (for people using 24hr system clock)

- Case setting (All lower, default or all upper)

But I am having trouble with the case setting because using the default system font, the middle word (the one that is BOLD) will sit just a little below the other two words. For some reason, because it has a BOLD text style, the font does not sit on the same line as the other words.

I've attached an example. If anyone knows a solution to position it correctly, I'm all ears.

EDIT: It doesn't actually look bad on my device, but caps don't look so good. I might upload this soon: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13120925/clockr.v1.2.large.jpg

I'm not sure where the update problems are coming from, I have two different builds running on my phone (one with Force Update, one without) and both have not stopped on me yet after 52+hrs.

As I have said before, I will be spending time working on an alternative to the update method. I'm not an expert at android dev, heck I only just started using the android sdk about 4 weeks ago. I'll find a solution, just need to give me time to work on it (I am only human).
[Android Apps and Games] emelie:
thanks for your great work!

keep on developing this app and your skills will develop themselves!
[Android Apps and Games] reprod:
I wasn't able to find any update for Clockr Evolution in the Market... not sure if only Clockr was updated.

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[Android Apps and Games] xyellx:
Is there a german translation?
[Android Apps and Games] pingling:
English only for now. But multilingual support would be a great feature... Any plans for it?

I can help with Polish version :-)
[Android Apps and Games] superleeds27:
Whrn i select an activity from rhe tap to open option, it still brings the clock options up! Can we have an option so that when you tap the clock, nothing opens?
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Hey guys,

I decided to put this latest update on hold until I rebuild the clock "Update" method. This is now my sole focus at the moment. Unless there are other major bugs, this is what all my free time will be spent on.

As you may already know, I have tried and tested at least 5 different update implementations. Some semi-successful, some absolutely terrible. The current system seems to work for ~95% of people, but it does not work for that last 5%. This does not sit well for me. So it's back to the drawing board again to get it fixed. This also means that the notification will be removed entirely or it will remain as an option (I have no problem with using it).

The whole thing is so frustrating for me. I just wanted to create a simple clock widget and never knew there could be so many issues. I know that once I can get my head around it, Clockr will be brilliant, but right now it is my achilles heel. It's just one major frustration.

So I'm stripping it back and getting it done once and for all. Maybe it will click together quickly and just work, maybe it will take a few days. All I know is that I'm willing to get done and I wont rest until it works.

For now, I'm still taking notes for things that could be added/fixed/changed. So if you have any suggestions, feel free to post them here, or just email/private message me if that is easier.

Soon as I can get this new update method figured out, that is one of the first things I will be fixing. I know exactly what is causing it to happen, but I'd rather get this new update sorted out because that will determine how I handle this problem.

I've also added this to my list.
[Android Apps and Games] spambayes:
Ah. Wasn't aware of that. Neat.

Yes. The layout's good and straightforward. Easy to use. Nice!

No, I don't think SVNTEEN is easy to read at all. As it is, we're so used to reading clocks in numerical digits that a "word" clock such as Clockr already poses some degree of slowdown in our comprehension. Add to that missing vowels/consonants and it would not be an enjoyable experience having to tell time. I have two perhaps impractical suggestions of implementing this:

1. Auto-scrolling. Like the display of song titles in music players or shop window displays, let any clock which extend beyond the screen edges autoscroll (uni directional, bi directional).

2. Use a multi line display. For example, "seventeenTWENTYeight" can be shown with each word on a single line, all centered. Same goes for date. Of course, this will increase the design of the clock to three lines for time and equally for the date.

I'm just throwing ideas out.

No problem. Good to know it's in the pipeline.

I consider this a major improvement! Very, very cool! I think the option for a separator will be icing on the cake!

One thing about the user-definable colors. It's quite tricky to set the exact same color for some hues because using sliders are too imprecise. Can we also have input boxes for entering color codes?

Thanks!

(Edit: Please disregard my suggestion about the color codes - didn't catch up on the latest posts before replying to yours. I see great minds think alike.)
[Android Apps and Games] spambayes:
For what it's worth, I'll chime in with my experience of the clock not updating. At first, I didn't turn on the Force Update as I don't like an idle notification sitting in the bar. However, I soon discovered that the clock would stop updating the whole night and in the morning would still be displaying the time 6-7 hours prior. In that state, the clock is essentially frozen and tapping does not bring up options or any program so configured. The only solution would be to drag-delete the widget and put up a new one. I had no choice but to use Force Update. With this option turned on, I still find the clock momentarily showing the "old time" before jumping to the current time if the phone has been unused for long periods, say overnight.
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Yeah, this is something I'll really have to think about. I sent out a release to some beta testers today which allowed "All uppercase" and with the larger font size and all uppercase enabled, it really stretches the words out a lot.

The alignment was also available in the version sent out to beta testers. Had no issues with it working and it will be available in the next release.

That's ok, I'll try to get something working as soon as I can.
[Android Apps and Games] Neffstarr:
i cant seem to find Clockr Evolution in market is just me?

i saw it in there yesterday then i installed [ROM][Froyo-JK2] Axura 2.0 - Devs4Android *11/12/10*

i dont see it now ???
[Android Apps and Games] 3Shirts:
Have you tried setting it to launch your launcher? Just an idea, i haven't tried it
[Android Apps and Games] saltorio:
Hey Zehro,

I fully understand your frustration with the update not working for some people. I've been in that kind of coding situation before and it sucks. So I'll try to provide you with as much info as I can so (hopefully) you can isolate the issue.

I uninstalled (using Titanium) and re-installed Clockr (from the market) last night. I then added it to my LauncherPro's main page, right under Text'o'Clock. From about 10:00pm last night until I went to bed at 3:00am (during which time I used the phone occasionally), Clockr continued to update fine. I woke up at 10:30am this morning, and Clockr was still displaying the correct time despite my phone being on standby (charging) for hours. I messed around and read the news on the phone, and then put it down at my desk around 11:00am.

Now it has gotten stuck at 11:11am - Text'o'Clock is continuing to show the correct time.

So, from this it would seem that long periods in standby are not the problem. This corroborates my earlier experience with Clockr (a few days ago), in which it got stuck several times during 5 minutes in standby between phone uses.

As most of my experience with it getting stuck seem to happen shortly following use of the phone, it seems more like the app is being killed by the system's memory management. I just checked SystemPanel, and Clockr is not listedat all in the process manager, now that it's stuck... Once re-added it to my home screen, it's listed as running but under "Inactive (Cached)". By comparison Text'o'Clock is listed as an "Active" application constantly.

The specifics of my phone are in my signature, and as mentioned before I am not using any task killers. This is also all with Clockr running with Force Update turned

off

.
[Android Apps and Games] 3Shirts:
Yeah, I've been testing it with text clock and that is listed as a service while this doesn't appear in the service list. I obviously much prefer this so if this can be resolved it'll be perfect. I am using evolution and on a Nexus One with cm6.1
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I think some of you are missing the point. I know that (for most people) if you don't use Force Update, it will not stay updated. I only provide it as an alternative for those that it "might" work for that don't like the notification. This is not what bothers me and complaining that it does not stay updated while in this mode is pointless.

You must realise, that its impossible to keep a clock widget from "freezing" without using a service. And even then, you need to keep that service from being killed by the OS. Sure, this sounds like a bad thing to be tying up system memory, but if you want a clock widget on your home-screen, it is THE only option.

What I am currently working on is an alternative to the Force Update that will run a background service (not foreground like current) and it will not need to display the notification. I almost have it working right, but I still need to do more stress testing.
[Android Apps and Games] mcmikecruz1:
Zehro

I appreciate everything your doing with clockr , thank you very much.

That being said I have a serious problem with This widget . I always use clockr and battstatt on every home screen I make and with all these advances you've made with clockr , well battstat is starting to look like ****e and not worthy of being on the same screen.

So when you perfect this please start working on battr

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] 3Shirts:
All I want is for it to keep time without the ongoing notification. Good luck with it, I will keep supporting you with this. It's awesome
[Android Apps and Games] saltorio:
That's fine. I don't have a problem with using the Force Update option. What I have a problem with is having a clock widget taking up space in my notifications, especially when other clock widgets I've tried don't need to in order to stay accurate. If you can get something working so that no notification is required and the widget continues updating correctly, I'll gladly pay for the app.
[Android Apps and Games] Rohaq:
Out of interest, why do other clock apps seem to have no problems keeping up to date? Also, I'm assuming that in order to be displayed, widgets have to maintain a presence in memory and as an active process; why can the widget not keep itself updated? How come it even needs a separate service?

Also, I have purchased this app already so I can have a sexy front screen with the time/date on WidgetLocker. Keep up the good work!
[Android Apps and Games] Max_Pain:
why is everyone having issues with updating? I've had clockr for two weeks or so and i have never had any issues?

Swyped from my HTC Evo 4G on the MetroPCS 1X network!
[Android Apps and Games] Rohaq:
I run the paid version of Clockr in WidgetLocker, and it didn't seem to want to update properly, so yes, people have issues with updating. I'm unsure as to the reason why, though.
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I'm not exactly sure why some people have trouble and others don't, I think partly it has something to do with the fragmentation of android. So much variation in devices that it is hard to know what is causing it to freezing.

I am currently working on something that should fix some of these issues, you just have to be patient a few more days while I sort it all out.
[Android Apps and Games] mcmikecruz1:
I've never had an issue either,

Got this from a different thread

Hi, i hope i can give some informations about how this works

the android os is sending a broadcast every minute called ACTION_TIME_TICK

u can register ur app to this broadcast, so u dont have to check every second if the time changed

the app will be called by the android os to wake up when a minute passed by

the battery life wont shorten much if u use such a widget since the widget doesnt do much,

just rendering some text so dont worry about that

about waking the phone up and battery i can give u a detailed view how to handle that

u can register to a broadcast called ACTION_SCREEN_OFF

when u receive that broadcast unregister for the ACTION_TIME_TICK broadcast

cause screen is off, no need to update the clock

if the screen goes on the android os is sending the ACTION_SCREEN_ON broadcast

handel that broadcast too to activate the clock again and sync it instantly when the screen is turned on

i hope that help u to understand clock widgets a bit more =)

best regards

Kemo

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[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Kemo alerted me to this already.

I had already been using SCREEN_ON and SCREEN_OFF since version 0.4 beta, but had totally missed the TIME_TICK intent.

I had been working on rewriting my whole service, but now I know about this TIME_TICK, I've gone back to my old code and am working on the most efficient way to handle the intent.
[Android Apps and Games] reprod:
Wishing you the best zehro

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[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
There is a version being tested at the moment, will have to wait and see if it works well or if changes need to be made.

If you have had problems with the current version on the marketplace not updating correctly, shoot me a PM. Let me know what phone, Android version (2.1 or 2.2) and if you were using Force Update or not.
[Android Apps and Games] superleeds27:
I have problems updating. No force update. Se X10 Android 2.1
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Testing has been very positive. Only a few minor bugs (which I have fixed now) and none of them related to the new update method.

So I have uploaded a new version of Clockr Evolution. Will upload the new version of Clockr and update the first post in this thread a little later today.

Next thing I will need to work on is separating the preferences for each instance of the widget created. Theres a lot of preferences in these widgets now, so it might take me a while to get all of them working correctly, but it should solve the issues some people are having with Tap To Open...
[Android Apps and Games] mcmikecruz1:
Any chance you will make a battery life widget like batt stat in the future ?
[Android Apps and Games] digitaltoddy:
just purchased Clockr Evolution through appbrain, but it can't find the app when it comes time to install it. what gives?
[Android Apps and Games] BottledHate:
just updated.... love some of the new options....

hate the new layout... seems to take up quite a bit more space..... un needed padding?

Previous Version: :)

old version

New version 1.5, dl'd today: :(

new version
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Some people are having issues with installing it from the Market at the moment. Not really sure why, it's not something I have control over. I just upload and hit the "publish" button.

Hopefully it resolves itself soon.

EDIT: Do you think the extra padding might be caused by you stretching Clockr in LauncherPro... it looks like (in your second image) you have stretched the widget over two rows. I haven't added anything that would cause it to look like that. The widget is still the same size.
[Android Apps and Games] BottledHate:
i use adw launcher... you are correct in the layout change... i had already changed the layout to fit the new version.....

i use adw with 6x7 generally... the old version shot is adw 6x7. here's what it looked like right after the update, no chages to layout. I used to be able to fit it into 1 row.....

clockr1.5 - adw 6x7 grid - using 1 row

clock1.4? - adw 6x7 grid - using 1 row

i may just have to live with the changes.... hopefully no one else is having issues.
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I'm really glad you showed me those screenshots.

I don't have ADW to test it with so I have tried to reproduce it in LauncherPro, but it doesn't look the same as in your screenshot (it still renders correctly).

The only way I am able to replicate what you have is by switching to Landscape view. I originally thought this may have been because I needed a separate layout for landscape, but now I realise where in my layout this issue is caused.

I have fixed the code. It is working correctly for me in Landscape view, so I will assume it also works for your single line layout. I just want to check over the code one last time and then I will upload the fixed version.

EDIT: New version of Clockr Evolution (1.5.1) has been uploaded to Market.
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Clockr and Clockr Evolution v1.5.1

Clockr and Clockr Evolution have been updated!

Version 1.5.1 available on android market

I'm happy to announce that the dreaded "Force Update" and the stupid "notification" are no longer a part of Clockr. =)

Both new versions have been uploaded to the android market and are ready for your viewing pleasure.

Changelog:

- rearranged the options menu a little.

- added option to align the clock (left | center | right).

- added option to select case (lower | defAUlt | UPPER).

- removed notification.

- numerous bug fixes.
[Android Apps and Games] mcmikecruz1:
Awesome
[Android Apps and Games] BottledHate:
Looks great now thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] tominabox1:
I have the latest version from the marker and it still has the notification, at least it does when using it on widgetlocker. Just confirmed, it comes on in about 2 min on homescreen too.
[Android Apps and Games] BottledHate:
try removing all then re-installing... not here on mine...

thanks again zehro... 6x1 on ADW is fine now.

clockr v1.5.1 Clockr 1.5.1 on CM6.1rc4 ADW launcher with custom widgets using Desktop Visualizer
[Android Apps and Games] S_Dot:
edit, just uninstall your current version then re-install from market.. works for me :)
[Android Apps and Games] DRTMI:
I updated mine tonight and still no problems. DroidX
[Android Apps and Games] KDiz:
first app i bought and love it. keep up the good work! :)
[Android Apps and Games] Glithramir:
Just installed it on my Nexus One but the time has stopped updating..
[Android Apps and Games] Nuntius:
Flawless once again on my not rooted Desire using Launcher Pro and no locker (except the one form HTC).

Great job, sorry for the others
[Android Apps and Games] Rohaq:
So far, so good here, although I can't understand why the widget needs the system time to be in 24 hour format in order to display in a 12 hour format: Assuming you're in java, why can't you just use java.text.SimpleDateFormat, java.text.DateFormat and java.util.Date to get and reformat the system time into a format that suits your widget, as shown here?:

http://www.java-tips.org/java-se-tips/java.util/how-to-get-current-date-time.html
[Android Apps and Games] 3Shirts:
Yeah +1 on that. Battstat just doesn't quite work in my theme now, really needs the coloured middle work option like Clockr
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying? I've been using that all along.

The Force 12hr Format is only for people who use a 24hr system clock but would prefer Clockr to display in 12hr format. So if their system clock is 13:07... instead of displaying "thirteenO'seven" Clockr can display "oneO'seven".

If you don't use a 24hr system clock, it doesn't matter if you check the box or not, it will always be 12hr format.

BTW, will be releasing an update soon. I've finally found where my code was killing my attempts at separating options for each widget. So once I update, you'll be able to install multiple instances of Clockr on your home screen, each with individual settings.
[Android Apps and Games] 3Shirts:
That's great. Can you make it so we can turn the clock off? That way we can use two widgets, one for date and one for time, and place them more flexibly.

Also the alignment feature is great, could you also allow us to configure vertical alignment too? I'd like to be able to stretch this (with launcherpro) to two rows deep and layer another widget on top but currently the text drops to the middle (vertically) of the stretched widget. Do you get what I mean and is that possible?
[Android Apps and Games] Glithramir:
Will this problem be fixed in the next version?
[Android Apps and Games] adavisme:
Mine is stopping now too. The previous version worked great, but this one stops after a few minutes. Sprint Hero running 2.1.
[Android Apps and Games] tominabox1:
Yep, cleared data and the notification went away but the clock stopped about ten minutes later.
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I'm not really sure what would cause that problem just yet. My app reads the TIME_TICK from the system, if my clock stops updating I can only guess that a task killer app is killing my broadcast receiver. I don't know how it is possible that the OS will stop my app naturally on a Nexus One in the short time of 10 minutes. That sounds a little ridiculous to be honest.

EDIT: unless you are still using the old version.
[Android Apps and Games] adavisme:
Until the new version is fixed can the old one with the notification be posted? It was working really well.
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
This sounds like you are still using the old version. What version number is displayed when you click on the icon in your app drawer?
[Android Apps and Games] adavisme:
I just removed and reinstalled Clockr version 1.5.1, I am not running a task killer, and a few minutes after adding the widget, it stopped once again.
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Not sure what the problem is, I will look into it tomorrow.

For now, I've attached the previous version until I can work out the problem.

Good night all.
[Android Apps and Games] adavisme:
Thanks for the quick response.
[Android Apps and Games] Glithramir:
Using the 1.5.1 version.. no task killer or similar installed.
[Android Apps and Games] tominabox1:
I uninstalled and reinstalled, will let u know if it dies again.

EDIT: sure enough, few minutes later it was dead :( Have no idea what the deal is. Glad you haven't given up yet zehro, I probably would have!