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[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rysky007:
I agree, bare bone or not, there is many basic functions which are missing.

To me it seems like they released it unfinished. Or for 12 year old girls who want to keep up with face book, i mean look at the color options for the tiles?

Not one male color.

Also I get the whole live tiles, but how different are they from apps. only diff is they are bigger then ur avg app icon ( negative feature ) , and they update, whoopty do, u can set software to display updates on the app icon on any of the OS we see now ( if the developers wanted to), but things like alarm or that I have a new message, I dont need a huge tile to tell me, I have to scroll down twice to see if my alarm is set cause my phone, contacts, sms, and 4 email account tiles ( cause u cant view all 4 from one area, you have to have them separate) are all in the way.

The old small tile bar up top of the screen which told you your signal strength, network, battery and a little alarm bell, was very effective, first rule of good business, dont change what works.

But great features like assignable favs from phone book to access are missing

Im ranting to, and I'm ranting cause if they think this OS is what ppl want then they need to fire their R&D

I know I know its new, its in development, when some one tells me something is new and in development I think of a door way to a building, it opens, it closes, it has a door handle, a lock with a key access, hinges, screws, paint, glass, sealed and their working on the art on the glass and adding thumb print access.

OS 7: they gave us a piece of wood with some glass, some slippery stuff to make it very smooth and said "hold on the hinges will be here in a month". but feel free to stare at the ppl tile as your friends faces rotate on them and tell u when little jimmy is updating his face book status cause he went poop.

Sorry guys just expected more, I know read the past its been talked about, well i have not read it, I though it would be an upgrade from HD2 6.5, instead we went back wards.

They just made it more slick, so slick its empty.
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rob_p:
Fair enough, it's not for you, but I would totally disagree about it being a step back.

I think they've got a real winner on their hands. Android is already out there for people who want to tweak to their hearts content, have access to the entire OS, and have a slightly unstable phone as a result.

MS have instead produced a focussed, useable platform that does what it says it will. It provides functionality within one or two presses of the screen, it all integrates very nicely and hangs together well. It's easy and intuitive to navigate, and it VERSION 1!!!

This expectation that a brand new, from the ground up, piece of software will be fully featured and working perfectly is utterly unrealistic. Name me one piece of software that has EVER met those criteria?!?!

In fairness to MS, they have taken the decision to release what works, rather than throw in a few extra features that need a couple more months development and will be buggy and generally drag the whole experience down. They have stated that there will be regular updates, and we have no reason to think that they won't be true to their word. As long as they keep to that, and fill in the functionality then they will have a great OS on their hands.

For those complaining that it doesn't do what WM did, it's not meant to - hence why it's called windows phone rather than mobile - it's not meant to be a pocket PC anymore. Also, MS have said that they will be aiming to make the phone more business friendly with future releases next year - right now it's not intended to be a business machine, that's why WM6.5 hasn't been scrapped.

Personally, as much as I love android, I quickly got bored of it - it tries to be all things to all people, and suffers as a result. It's still a great OS, but it's not what I want. I've been following the development of WP7 for a long time, and had a few chances to play with it at MS events, and it really is fantastic. We all knew it didn't have cut and paste, we all knew it doesn't multi-task, so why oh why do people buy it and then complain about these missing features - it's like buying a bike, then complaining that it's got two wheels missing?!?!

WP7 does what it does very well, it's that simple.
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rysky007:
Thats the problem, we all didnt know, not all of us have been following this thing all this time or its development nor have the time to, but there is basic features which are expected in any phone to have in 2010 era.

Im sorry but not having cut and past on a phone which is all about media is rediculas, it should be part of the code, and its not complicated code, they know how to do it, but if you notice, there is an app out there you can buy that will do it for you. Hence, Microsoft has decided to bank on the app market vs the phone OS sales by giving us nothing and charging us for what we want.

What I predict in the upcoming updates? very basic things, everthing else that we want, that should be part of the basic OS will be available to buy, I dont blame them, it makes perfect sense.

For example, I over slept today, since there is only one setting for volume, I set my phone on vibrate over night so that if I have that one client who just cant wait till 9am to talk to me and calls at 6:30 i dont get woken up, but since the alerm sound is now not working, i sleep right through my 7:30 am alarm.

So the general person would say but no one else needs that, put it ringer on ring, cause most of us wont get calls at 6am right. Say you want to take a mid day nap cause ur head still pounding from going out the previous night, you need your alarm to wake u up but when that girl you chilled with last night calls you five times cause she is emotionaly unstable you dont want to hear it. How would you set that up?

Every phone since, hell 2002 I have seen have the ability to set different ring type and volume on alarm then the master one.

Thats a simple basic feature.

Things like that is what botheres me about this phone, like they forgot to put it in as they rushed it out the door for the holiday season so they can sell them for xmas
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] monkeybutler365:
@Rysksy

Give it up dude- copy and paste will be in Jan update, along with other stuff. God knows what you did with the alarm but my WP7 phone is set to vibrate for calls and texts and full volume for music/ alarms etc. Press the volume key and you'll see how to do it.

Fair enough to complain about valid concerns, but the comments you are making sound like you haven't actually got one and would just like to have a moan about things which are either well documented and will soon be fixed, or aren't in fact an issue. If you loathe it so much why not sell it (if indeed you do own one), and buy a HD2 again with cash left over?
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rysky007:
I have the HD2 and the HD7, money is not the issue, id spendn 800$ on the N8 or E7 if I could test it before I got it, just no Nokia dealers in my city.

There is not many alarm settings, and when u press the volume key, your options is to either tune the level of ring up or down, or press in top right corner to go to ring or vibrate, there is no profile selection.

When I set my phone to vibrate, the alarm does not sound, it goes off, in a nice vibrating kind of way, but not sound. That is a bit frustrating, for the fact that some times I need to have alarm wake me up but not my calls or messages, dont have that kind of a setting, heck no setting to keep media volume separte from ringer volume, same problem HD2 had to, if I want to watch a movie I turn the volume up in hte movie, then I get a call and it blares at full volume. Those should be independent of each other.

I am not bitter, I just feel that we were given a half finish OS, lots of promises and not much delivered, but they are capitalizing on us buying things from the market to temp fix what we need. And having to wait for update, they know that most of us have 14 days from the time we buy to return, so they set the new release way out, so that every one is stuck with phone if they dont like it, maximize profits for the holidays, very smart of them.

If i was a car maker, i would not put a car on the market, and say " hold on doors coming soon"

Thats all I am saying :)
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phonepersonality:
Wait a sec....

I am a phone whore and have used just about every mobile platform available and many many many phone devices as well.

I currently have a Samsung Vibrant, HD2 and HD7 and here's my take.

This is not the first phone to come out unfinished and it probably won't be the last. All versions of Apples Mobile OS to this very day have been released with some major feature missing or a ton of bugs. This is really nothing new.

I've been using Android since the G1 and I can remember when many people scoffed at the platform. No one is laughing at Android now.

My HD2 is a pretty phone with a ****ty OS and I hacked and flashed custom ROMs on that thing from day one. My Android devices (all of them) though awesome, have also been customized, Rooted and flashed with all kinds of ROMs. When I used iPhones, I jailbroke them all. Heck, even my iPad is jailbroken right now.

There is no level playing field and there certainly is no perfect phone.

These things take time.

Now granted, some things in Windows phone should probably have been added from jump, e.g. Cut & Paste, but we all know that's coming sooner rather than later.

Regardless, this is a very polished platform that obviously has a lot of room for growth and amazing potential.

The question is can you be patient enough to wait a few weeks/months, or are you going to keep kvetching over the situation?

Once you answer that question, I'm pretty sure your next step will become clear to you :)
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samson_420:
HD7 Really?

So, I got a HD2. . . It has been a decent phone for a few weeks(I got way fed up with my 3G iPhone and found a straight across trade).

It's the usual WMO OS, decent at best. Quite stable, but the menus are just. . . . Well, WMO.

Now, I just ordered the HD7. I called t-mobile and they just wanted to give me this thing. I added a line and renewed a contract and they gave me 2 HD7's for 300 Bucks on some loyalty BS.

So, I went to the T-mobile store to play with it before it got here.

Seriously what gives?

No Background

The tiles look idiotic(the rendering is nice, I guess)

Is there even a file management system?

SPB Shell will not work on it

Can you access the files in a removable storage format?

I guess that about covers it. . . Geez, it's like the iPhone OS in the early days.
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nrfitchett4:
do not know how to google???

Everything you complain about has been covered ad nauseum on the web for MONTHS!!!!

It's not MS's fault you didn't do your homework.

Maybe if you need to put your phone on vibrate when you sleep you should invest in a 10 dollar alarm clock. I've used the same one for over a decade, batteries last about 2 years in it.

If you are within your 2 weeks, I suggest you return the phone.

And FYI, you can adjust the ringer and media volumes separately on the hd2. It's obvious you didn't do your homework on that one either.

Once again, a little research before you buy electronics goes a long way. :(
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samson_420:
Very true, I got it just because it was cheap. It will most likely be sold due to these issues.

But, come on. . . You can't tell me these issues should not be resolved before a OS is released. Some of these issues are unreasonable.
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rysky007:
Actually I never said that you cannot do it on HD2, thats one of the features I liked on the HD2, so you miss read my statement as I said that since the HD2 had the feature why not HD7.

Im glad that its been covered and beaten up for months on thousands of diff forums. And I will give you the same answer I gave the other person who made that comment. When I buy a car, I dont spend hours on line to research if it comes with brakes and doors. I research if it has a certain adapter or feature, but usually a quick glance to their site or call to dealer can solve that issue.

I dont have time to spend on line reading the thousands of posts.. which i did do a little research about it before I got one, and sorting through the clutter of personal reviews did not answer the question of what it does and does not have.

Especially since many of the posts were, "I took the fuzzy picture the guy took at the private release that was leaked to us and photo shopped it and rendered it 3d view and it looks like there is a small hole for something but I cannot tell what"

Until the product is released and played with, you will never fully know what it does and does not have. Things like cut and paste which many complained about is not a big deal for me. But alarm features, select all, and view multiple email accounts from one place i did not see discussed, why? cause its not important to most avg users who spend hours a day on google or face book,

I run two businesses, time is limited.
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samson_420:
^ Yup. . . . So far from what I have seen of this new WMO Phone it is a fail. They really bit the big one on this. The only way I can use this device is if they release a serious update.
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M@rtyn04:
I recently had my HD2 stolen, so for the time being, I have had to go back to my old Orbit. I am so jealous of you guys with multiple phones and OSs :D

Anyway, to get to the point. I was totally in love with my HD2 and am a long time WinMo user and fan. But now I have the chance to look around for a new phone. Sorry, but iPhone doesn't even come into the equation. I have an iPod Touch and that has put me off the whole iOS. So that leaves only Symbian, Android and WP7. And you can kick Symbian off the list as I don't like the look of the OS. So, Android or WP7.

The beauty of the HD2 was that you can run it with Android, so I have already had a lot of use and fun out of that OS. It is smart and polished and with a lot of regular updates to keep it fresh and up to the minute. A serious contender in the replacement market.

My only experience with WP7 is 10 mins playing with it in a T-Mobile shop the other day and from what I have read here and on other sites. As many say, iOS started off the same; bare-bones with room for more as and when the public cry loud enough for it. But those 10 mins playing with it in the shop didn't give me a lot of faith in it. Yes, it's very fluid and slick, but the eco-system is too restrictive, just like the iPhone. And from Microsoft, I expected more... much more. They had 10 years of WinMo experience which in my opinion, they decided to pass up on and follow the Apple route. Copy and paste may not be something everyone uses, but the world scoffed at Apple for not having it until the 3Gs came along. The tiles on the "home" screen are an excellent idea, for a quick glance at what's new, but you could do the same with WinMo with one or two added apps (or just use Titanium, which also told you you had new mails, messages, etc).

In conclusion, I would most likely be replacing my HD2 with a new HD2. OK, WinMo may be old hat and a bit awkward, but with HTCs Sense it runs like a charm. And if I want Android, I can run that too. And who knows, maybe in the not too distant future there will be a WP7 port for it too. The perfect phone for me!
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nrfitchett4:
I and most other users don't find anything "unreasonable" missing. It makes calls, texts, emails, plays music, videos, games, has office integration.

Time is limited, yet you can't read one review before you buy a phone, yet can post 20 times what you hate about it afterwards. You probably buy an SUV, then complain to everyone when it gets 15mpg, like that is some unknown problem.....

Android doesn't get that many updates. It just seems that way because the android builds for the hd2 pull from all the android OS's. Most of them still haven't gotten an official 2.2 that has been released from google for months.
[HD7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samson_420:
So does a much lower end phone. . . .

It will just take time as always for people that know what their doing to improve upon where the manufacturer has failed.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Freypal:
Just a quick question to others who have the Omnia now from Orange.

Is it just me or have Orange removed the Samsung Daily Briefing hub on other handsets?

Also is it possible to re-download this?

Thanks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Phone Titan:
Has it been released? I just looked on their website and it says that its coming soon.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Freypal:
Yeh it is. If you ring up you can get it.

Me and my sister both got one delivered today. On both our handsets the Samsung apps have been removed.. quite annoying really. Would really like to get them back.
[Windows Phone 7 General] AWLaLa:
Not on my one either, so definitely looks like they've removed it,seems they've replaced it with Orange Daily. Not exactly a fair swap I say!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Freypal:
Tell me about it. Even on marketplace through Zune the Samsung store doesn't have it. All you can download is the photo share app and some app from the 3 network.
[Windows Phone 7 General] evilangelic:
Guys it's available!..

Marketplace -> Samsung Zone -> 'Now'

EDIT: It was there and I downloaded it... but now it's gone! Along with the network settings app...

It's still on my device though :D quite fast too

It's called 'Now' and it's just that the tile image has a picture that says Daily Briefing
[Windows Phone 7 General] Freypal:
Gutted, not there :(

Hopefuly it will re-appear at some point. I would like having all that info in one hub. The Orange "replacement" is... lacking
[Windows Phone 7 General] root beer:
Will be interesting to see If It comes installed on the unbranded sets. Just waiting now for the stock to come in and be sent out.

And I wish there was a specific Omnia forum on here so we don't have to fill up the general forum.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Freypal:
Agreed, whilst similar the Omnia and Focus are different.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
So the Omnia is definitely branded and locked to orange I guess (?)
[Windows Phone 7 General] AWLaLa:
Well, yeah on Orange, who let's face it are notorious for 'branding'. This is however less of an issue with W7 to be honest (apart from the obvious removal of 'Now').

Be interesting to see if the T-Mobile version has the 'Daily Briefing Hub' left intact.
[Windows Phone 7 General] evilangelic:
It certainly is Branded by a glowing orange stamp lol

But all orange software can just be uninstalled like any other app, although 'Your Orange' is really useful! It shows you of how many remaining minutes and texts and bundle you have!
[Windows Phone 7 General] asci:
Is there any way to buy one...but traveling to uk?
[Windows Phone 7 General] marcox92:
HTC HUB

Any idea how to install HTC HUB on Omnia 7 ?

Any idea of a process to get oulook contacts and calendar on W7 ?

Thanks

PS please Microsoft continue to develop windows mobile for peaple who are not using a phone just to pass time as a game pad !!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
My guess is you can't, that's one of the very few way OEMs can differentiate WP7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] AWLaLa:
Well, the 'Now' App appeared on my Marketplace under the Samsung Zone today, so grabbed it while waiting on the bus.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donner77:
Hello,

I love my Nexus. Now I got a blackberry from my work to have instant access to my emails.

Because I don't want to use the Blackberry and to keep my Nexus I need to get the same email function as the Blackberry.

Do you know if this is possible? I am no expert in things like this and it would be great if you can point me into the right direction.

My mobile contract has an internet flat and - I think so - a BB-option. AS Email-Client I am using Outlook.

Thanks for your help.

Donner
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fender2k1:
Your company probably uses a Blackberry Enterprise Server which allows emails to be delivered to the blackberry.

The email environment you use uses Activesync to deliver emails to windows mobile/activesync enabled phones such as Android. The BES and Activesync protocols are not compatible.

You should contact your exchange server administrator to see if activesync is allowed to be used within the company. More often than not, if they gave you a blackberry, activesync is probably disabled.
[Desire General] TurkzZ:
Am i right in thinking the main culprit for wasting battery is 3G? when i use WIFI and am at home, the phones goes easy 2 days and im watching youtube, playing angry bird, chatting on gtalk.

with 3G, lucky to get a full day, normally dies towards the end,

so how come 3G kills the battery so hard :( is there a remedy to it lol

thanks :)
[Desire General] vukis:
3g could be trouble when you have weak or unstable signal. In normal cases wifi uses more juice.
[Desire General] contrary:
for me, 3g doubles the consumption compared to wifi. (t-mobile uk)
[Desire General] McMichaeli:
Similar issues here on 3 in the UK using official HTC unbranded ROM with radio 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2. I can get well over a day with as much use as I wanton WiFi but if I switch it off and move to 3G (HSDPA) I completely flatten a battery in anywhere from 3 to 8 hours, sometimes with minimal actual usage!
[Desire General] TurkzZ:
yh on t-mob too, it could be the signal as iv read weak signals can drain battery, its strange, normally its wifi that drains the battery, but i have it on all day , dont have any inactivity settings on, its full blast all day and the battery stays 70-80% by round 1am when i sleep,

3g, it will be around 20% at that time, it is a strange one
[Desire General] kekkle:
While idle 3G uses more power than WiFi.

While active WiFi uses more power than 3G.

While that may like it seem like WiFi can use more when actively using it. It also finishes quicker and goes back to idling. Which uses less power in the end.

Both use more if the reception/signal is weak, as it's constantly trying to (re)connect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tiger.woods:
Anyone know if reverse tethering via USB is possible?

Android > PC > Internet

TW,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] obso:
I never found a way to make it work with android. I ended up buying a $10 wireless router so I could have wireless at work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
It's possible but never implemented, Dzo has the documentation for usb hosts but never implemented it due to it not being practical
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tiger.woods:
Thanks for the reply's.

Anyone ever try this to see if it works? http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-793102.html

I'd love to see this capability but I'm not a developer and only a requester...

thoughtlesskyle, I like your ROM and I'm running it now, great work. Does overclocking make the Kaiser more responsive - is there a utility that you cooked in for doing that?

TW,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
You can overclock it through the NBH or with Roguetools which you can get through the market. From my experience though done in software through Roguetools seems to work better for some reason. On that same note you can overclock the GPU through the NBH editor even as well. To do that use Atools as your nbh editor.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
my builds have rogue tools installed by default so use that
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Serial12:
Hi,

Does anyone know how to retrieve the wallpapaers when a rom is already flashed to the phone. I'm talking about those cool wallpapers that come with CynagenMod, Floyo etc..

thnx in advance.