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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SpinalRemains:
@ Rosedog -

I though about this today. I use the stylus all the time, and I don't think I could get used to not having it.

As lame as it may sound, I have decide not to part with my TP2. This device just does everything that newer devices do not. Android devices have far more apps, and the Ghz CPU is nice too, but the customization that winmo has is unmatched. KD Font is the coolest ever, and the Keyboard remapping is king! Wifi toggle with back button! Also, with that customization comes ease of use and a personal touch. Many times I can load pages and do things quicker on my OC device because all my personal links and things are so easy to access. You save time by moving everything to exactly where you want it. When I look at Android, I get the impression that you're in jail. You must use what they're offering and I just don't like that. I need to move files around and use the Registry editor. I cannot imagine going to a different OS after becoming so profficient with Winmo. I'm not giving it up until it dies, and seeing as this thing is built like a German tank.........it'll probably be another 5 years.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Danni3:
k guys, i'm in for themes :] though my xperia x1 is becoming more ancient by the day =\

I'll have concepts (non os specific) within the week =P

the first else phone by emblaze is at the top of my list right now
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Callyou:
Love WinMo

I love(d) WIndows Mobile, been using devices with WIndows Mobile ever since I have had a PDA, don't like iOS, Web OS. I strongly believe WIndows Mobile changed cooperate world, business executive, field support, it was all over the place well before Apple and Android was even heard of.

Someone in the forum mentioned their taskmanager going blank, all I would say to my fellow member, "You have been using the wrong device or don't know how to use it properly mate". For what it was/is capable of doing, providing you know how to use it, it was/is very stable, and yes, if someone wants to play hardcore games, please get yourself a PSP or DSi :-)

Keep up the good work with WinMo guys. XDA Developers.com is the true explorer of Windows Mobile.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mhfrealmadrid:
actually i have received those responses too, but some of the responders were jealous, some stupid (who dont realize wm, android, ios, in fact OS:)), and some didn't really have my needs from their phones.

for those with (1) response: they are actually those who dont use their phone as i use, they define a phone (means iphone) a device by which you can call, send message, take photo, puff it then see the flame on the lighter flickers, play angry birds, shake it and shoot a shutgun and so on! ... yeah replying to these people is a bit difficult, but i suggest you to say them "you're better have fun with your little toy kid":D:D

the second response is also from those i mentioned for iphone owners, if you ask them "have you ever thought about making powerpoint slides in your phone with all the features and present them?" they will answer: "what? what **** is powerpoint? eatable?":D:D (easy android users, i dont mean to offend you, i want to say their needs completely differ and we can say wm is for more pro users).

i have faced with the two other responses too. even whenever i pull out my leo, one of my friends says jokingly "again you pull out your pan to fry egg!!!" (:D) ... but we all know what's the source of these responses in them, one of the features of leo and TG01 is their big screen;)

let me say these words and you deduce yours:

PROFESSIONAL SPECIALISTS worked on HD2(WM) to bring ANDROID and WP7 for it.

if you just see the "ANDROID" and "WP7" in this sentence, you are some sort of non-WM fans!...but i see only the words "PROFESSIONAL SPECIALISTS" and "WM":) and ask myself why didn't they perform this process on android or other OS' to bring a new OS for them?

it all depend on the needs, professional needs require WM! if you need fun, easiness, finger friendly MOBILE PHONE (not Pocket PC) so go for android!

sorry for offtopics:)

hope to see more pro apps for my leo;)

cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Nakazul:
Like someone said earlier here, compile a site or something to unite all the data, its a mess as it is. I still find usefull software for my HD2 i didnt know existed untill i find it by a lucky chance and developer may have allready given up, because of lack of intressed.

Omarket is great i think, its the closest thing we have for a software store. (Only wish i didnt have to go to loggin screen every darn time i start it.) it have apps that there is use for.

Im not a developer so who am i to beat on the drum. But the biggest problem is lack of consistense. All devices we have are diffrent, and developers seldom have the possebility to make up for all screen sizes, leaving some in the dark, and some suddenly in the light.

Last, 60% or more of current apps looks horrible. I know, in the whole a miner issue for some. But in my case, its horryfing to look at some apps. If better graphics was in, it would make its eazier to stay on WM, at least for me. I have some apps that rock, but there so ugly so im embaressed, and the friend or what ever im to show, cant take me seriusly.

Im just saying

Best regards from a under developed wm country in general.

Peder
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] T-Macgnolia:
Calling all devs and supporters of Win Mo.

Ok first off I am very glad I found this thread. I am still very new to the whole smartphone scene cause I just bought my first smartohone six months ago. But being my first smartphone is the T-Mobile US HTC HD2 I have had to learn a lot fast. I would actually like to post a link to this thread in the T-Mobile forums if no one minds. it is a lot of Win Mo users there.

Now when I first got my HD2 it was a rather frustrating device, but once I learned how to perform some routine maintenance on my HD2 it became the device I wanted when I bought it. Now yes I do run one of DarkStone's Andrioud builds of my SD card, but I find that I use the Win Mo way more than the Andriod. My wife and several friends have naitive Andriod devices and my HD2 came out the box way more user ready then any of their devices. I donct like how you have to download and install apps to do things that any device should be ableto easily do out the box like like Bluetooth file transfer. Also you have to download and install a file manager and a task manager WTF??? Not to meantion you have to root your device to be able to teather or WiFi share your internet connection to your laptop. Also there is no other OS out there that works so well with your PC. As mention by someone else in this thread it truly is "an extinsion of your desktop." Don't get me started on the iPhone, I think the only reason why it is so popular is the status associated with it. And what liile experience I have gotten to get in with the WP7 I just do not like for MULTIPLE reasons.

I also red the two post earlier in this thread about creating a central site to go to for everything Win Mo. I think this is a great idea so please notify me if this vets off the ground. would love to help with it but I am not skilled in such things. So in closing I am sending out a call to arms to all Devs and supporters of Win Mo. Let us all come together and prove to everyone that Win Mo is not dead and that it has plenty of life left in it.

Long live Win Mo and the HTC HD2!!!!!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Trekfan422991:
i think this are best chance for keeping wm alive!!!

Fluex
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] coolsac32:
Thanx every body for joining in and supporting. Wow up to 7 pages worthof posts in a few hours. Thnx alot orb it first started off as some what of a tired rant that i did based off of my friends izombieness in my dorm. but i figured why not. ive been cooking and what nots for going on 5 years all the way since the htc apache. i will update the site tonight with all the stuff ive been working on for the past month. hell, since everything has over the air update now, why dont we? thats the theme of this official update lol.

Windows Mobile Last Stand Official Update Coming Soon

p.s. Message me if you would like to become part of the team. Need members, DEVs, Testers, Graphic Artists, etc.

Time to start thisoff Right
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DukeNukem:
I miss my stylus too as I could write faster then most people can use their touch screen keyboard.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eTechUncut:
windows mobile is dead... yes i would love to have seen more wm development but since it has dramatically slowed down, ive switched to android. ive been with wm for quite awhile and have seen some awesome games/mods/apps/roms and other packages come out(i have over 150gb of .cabs and roms). ive had my last wm device, the tmo hd2, for almost a year and ive subscribed to many development threads and the great majority of them have ceased daily activity. i decided to give android a try and i got to say... i friggin love it! i switch back to my hd2 from time to time and it just not as fluid. i ran android on my hd2 but i didnt like it much. i got to say, i am very satisfied with the switch... i am now a dedicated android fan.

p.s. wp7 is garbage. dont like the system at ALL. i swapped my vibrant for a hd7 with my friend for about a week and i just dont like it. microsoft, you cant say i didnt try to stay loyal to you...:cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rmdeathwish:
+1 here too my friend.... ive been a dedicated WM fan too for almost 3 years now... thing is WM had everything I ever wanted .... only area it lacked was the multimedia.... I know core player is there for Videos n stuff... but the developer stopped his work since the past 2 years.....

Thats exactly the same story with other apps..... i dont mind the simple unattractive layout.... but atleast i expect some developments in the apps ive installed....

Android is good , no doubt about it, but still once in a blue moon i feel WM was better, n that is very rarely.....

Thing is its Microsoft that has dug its own grave... and they are too pompous too admit it.

Its really sad that WM is dying , i really loved it from the bottom of my heart, but in the end its just a sad story about a company failing to listen to the masses and too its fans .

Viva La Windows Mobile, you will be surely missed.

Peace.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] light_n_roses:
It would be very nice that those ides see the light but I think that this won't happens...create extra tabs for manila isn't that easy and unless here there is a real programmer, this won't happen...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lukas1234567890:
I think that wm is not dead at all..at least not for me..I have no reason why I should buy any device with android or wp7..what is better there? Nothing, absolutly nothing..people like to say that wm has a bad user interface, but it's the best user interface for me, I even don't use manila, I have classic today screen with plugins and I'm satisfied, I have everything what I need and even much more. Yesterday I installed dosbox for wm, I played old good DOS games and I was delighted what I can do with my TP2. When I want to go anywhere, I can use IGO8, TOMTOM or many another navigation software with full functionality, but where is this for android or iphone..nowhere..I think that still there is enough stuff for us enthusiasts, who want get everything possible from our wm devices..I have no reason why to go for android or any other system..and I KNOW that even if windows mobile will die, some company will sure develop similar operating system for people like we are..for now I will wait with my old good wm device and maybe I'll buy HD2, but I have to wait and be patient..the new OS for us is maybe already comming:-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Prozac69:
What a great and fascinating thread. Have just read everything from page 1 to page 8 and it's good to see so many people on board. So kudos to the OP for having the passion and enthusiasm to keep WINMO alive.

I only recently came in to the WINMO fold when I purchased my HTC HD2, having previously been a bit of a Symbian fanboy. That's another operating system that has so much potential but is seldom developed/supported by the main manufacturers and developers. Another great loss in the mobile world.

Anyway, keep up the good work and let's hope this thread flourishes and develops into something much bigger.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Aaron McCarthy:
Okay gotta ask.... iGO TAB... what is this? iGo integrated into a tab for sense? I've moved on to the samsung focus but keep a touch pro and touch pro two to play with as well... I've never read anything about this though.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DennisSclan8:
It's Alive, It's Alive

As a management level person I recall the first palms and the flex antennae on I believe it was the gray scale Palm 5 (?? long time ago) that progressed to BB, then windows again on a then new promise View Sonic smart phone to my today TMo TP2 (Rhodium) - that I will hold on to forever or at least it's end life. Each of us has a preference and while microsoft is a bloated beast I have found for myself they are my compatiable most functional buisness partner / pim. Wife and 3 kids run Android and it's appealing yet as mentioned so many times here already the persons priorities dictate preferred platform mine is Windows for what I do, the kids android for the gaming, the wife android for her social life.

Windows will survive because of this forum and those of us who see the benefit of it individually. Great thread!

Hey was'nt XDA started off the developing edge because of Microsofts lack of initative originally???? This thread then would extend the purpose and thank you I see it has ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] voyager529:
Not alone

LOL I'm so glad that there are other people here who can see past the shiny. I have both a Rhodium and a Leo, and if the two had a baby that had the CPU and RAM of the Leo with the form factor of the Rhodium, it'd be awesome. I've always felt that if Microsoft decided to buy Sense from HTC and market the hell out of it that there'd be a whole lot more people using the phone.

Just the other day, I went into the T-Mobile store and the guy was trying to get me to buy an HD7. He was like, "Have you tried it out?"

Me: "Not really. Why would I want it?"

Him: "Try it, you'll like it."

Me: "So...does it do Swype?"

Him: "No."

Me: "Does it do Remote Desktop?"

Him: "No."

Me: "Does it sync SMS messages with Exchange 2010?"

Him: "No."

Me: "Can I use the SD card in mass storage mode?"

Him: "No."

Me: "Can I play XviD files natively?"

Him: "No."

Me: "So basically what you're telling me is that every feature I actually USE on my present phone is unavailable?"

Him: "...yes"

Me: (plants tongue in cheek) "You might want to work on your sales pitch a bit"

We both had a good laugh.

Joey
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 516969953:
i am still using my old wm now
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eTechUncut:
i kinda miss the today screen. weatherbug, battery/memory meters, google search and the infamous htc home plugin along with the customizer.i wouldnt say wm has a bad interface. i rode with wm from wm2003, wm5, wm6, 6.1 and 6.5. it was the best os in my opinion until things like official updates and the fact that alot of corperations did not pour their time and resources in the development of apps. (i.e. BoA, eBay, Best Buy and more hd games from Glu and EA.) i just like to have the latest in development so i can showcase it to my iphone toting friends. ive bashed and hated the iphone since its release so that was definatly off the list, so i opted for android. wm is hanging on its last thread and i highly doubt that another company would try to replicate the wm os(as you can see even microsoft dont want it). even on here, some windows mobile devs are buying wp7 devices halting their dedication to wm and some are making the transition over to android. throughout the years, ive watched alot of tech news and when they present mobile devices, its always iphone vs android vs blackberry. i was almost always upset that the media did not recognize windows, symbian or plam as major players in the mobile market. i may even say that this is the reason why companies sway from developing with them... damn the media for going with the wave iphone carrying geeks and being judgmental towards the other platforms. idk but this is my extra 2 cents on the subject. :cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DukeNukem:
Here is a news release which highlights the problem for developers:

Apple exceeds 10 billion apps downloaded

Developers see that the iPhone/iPod/iPad/iEtc community have embraced the third party developer and are willing to support them with purchases and that draws in yet more developers who produce yet more apps which yet more consumers purchases and so the cycle goes (positive upward spiral). Apple exceeding 10 Billion downloads from its AppStore is a disaster for Microsoft as no doubt developers who used to develop apps for Windows/WM have jumped to the Apple camp and it is no doubt having a very large negative effect on third party development of Windows Phone apps. Lets say that only a tenth of those downloads were not free and lets say that all those purchases cost 99 cents (to be conservative), it still means that at least a billion dollars has been pumped into the Apple development community, that is going to have a huge positive effect for Apple platform developers. Now Apple is going to have an AppStore for Macs, think Microsoft is concerned, heck ya, if its successful no doubt more Windows developers will jump over to Apple (ie go to where the money is). Microsoft needs to defend, encourage, support and promote its developer community in a big way, just as the Windows Mobile community needs to encourage, support and promote its ROM Chefs and Developers as there are lots of other places encouraging them to jump over.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dr.Move:
The problem with users these days is that they value looks over the stuff under the hood. It's like showing a candy and a super handy toolbox to a child, see where I'm going?

No one seems to care about how octumizable wm 6.5 can be, nor they care about how independent it's programs are. Data fees in my country are huge, with WM I barely need to connect. Compare it to Android, I installed it for a few days and everything I need needs internet connection!

yes, android games are super, new iphone 4G has an awesome screen, but can you make custom icons for it? can you mod the registry in a way that satisfies you? can you download anything you want without having country issues (apple put Syria on the banned list btw). I haven't even found a proper backup program for android that stores programs I installed and saves what I've done with them, and backing up the data.img file doesn't quite cut it sometimes.

WM is glitchy at times, and unstable at others, but tell me you haven't found workarounds for that! taskbar disappears? happens to me all the time, solution: I open start menu using CHT softkeys and the taskbar pops again! and the list goes.

For me, I won't replace WM 6.5 until the new OSes deliver comparable functionality.

but until then my trusty WM6.5 remains my OS of choice.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mofjel:
I use wm6.5.x on my HD2 and love it! I will use it as long as it is possible for everyday use. i have tryed Android (i have it on SD) and i think its OK for games etc. So if I wanna play, I boot android. I have also Ubuntu on SD. Thats just cool! :D But in the end, its windows mobile running on the phone.

I'm so happy to see that I'm not alone in the world of WM. Coz I felt really alone :S

I hope WM never dies!

If I can contribute in any way to keep this awsome OS alive, let me know.

Ohh, I forgot. I want to use the opportunity to give a big thanks to all the developers who has made my HD2 to what it is! We should port WM to the newer devices, like HD7 etc hehe :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] swaters3:
i dont know anything about developing but I have been a wm user since 2006 starting with the sprint ppc 6700 apache then between me and my wife we had the mogul, touch pro and now the tp2. I have sprint so unless i want to change my paln they are frocing me to stick with the tp2. Not a bad thing just annoying that there are no new phones coming out with wm 6.5. I wouldnt ming trying the hd2 but without the keyboard its less tempting and i need a cdma phone. either way i have my phone working great it does everything i need and i wanted to thank all you developers out there for that. keep up the great work and helping to keep wm alive.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] illi:
I am for WinMo!

Long live WinMo.

Android will make the telcos richer
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] olyloh6696:
Yeh i probably want to upgrade to a HD2 next instead of anothe phone. it still has specs to rival phones today and so much flexibility. my only concern is battery life. my tg01 snaodragon 1000mah is awful.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] OrpyDave:
If a new phone comes with WP7 or Android installed, is it possible to replace it with a cooked WM6.5 ROM instead? Or are you stuck with whatever the manufacturer decided to dump on it? Or is my only option to stick with WM to buy a WM6.5 based handset from Ebay?

I'm thinking ahead to my next purchase. The more I'm reading this thread, the more I'm thinking that I won't be forced down a route that I really don't want to travel and want to stick with what works best for me.

Cheers,

Dave
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sniff15:
things we should have

not to be a cry baby but seeing how this site was mainly for windows mobile first, why is there no xda-app like on android or am i missing something?

rapid read while seems slow, compared to loaded the full site using opera.

oh and must i say I LOVE WINDOWS MOBILE!!!

while i boot into android every two weeks (boring)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tommy544:
Hi,

I think that there is one thing that would extend WM life and that is Equilibrio Sense! Please ElCondor help us! :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] adazamim:
+1 for Equilibrio Sense