yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arcadia310:
Companies don't want people walking around with free tethering or hotspot bubbles. Unless its a Google phone, almost every major smartphone from here on out will have these refresh parameters in them.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dabezt1:
I think it has more to do with HTC not wanting to replace all those brick phones customer keep sending in because they messsed up white flashing something. Tmobile phones are not the only ones with the protection. The desire HD has it too, so id say its more of a HTC thing.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HamNCheese:
Wrong. The so-called "bug" is inconsistent behavior of the controller. The protection itself is very much deliberate.

The NAND is write protected - deliberately (presumably to keep us from bricking recovery or /system.) End of story.

BTW, just because Cyanogen posts it somewhere doesn't make it the gospel. Name one phone he's broken. He (read his team) only produces ROMs for pre-rooted devices.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HamNCheese:
There isn't one on the G2. Nothing is "restored" or "reset." It's never written in the first place.

People need to stop parroting blogs and half-witted journalists, and read the existing threads on the subject. Spreading this nonsense only makes people ask more questions.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floepie:
So, does this mean, even with VISIONary, that any framework mods or any other writes to /system are impossible at the moment?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frenchie746:
Again.. All of the info on the subject are in the following posts regarding the G2 and MyTouch 4G.

See post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=808514

and:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=803208

There is even a wiki:

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floepie:
Well, I guess the question is, can mods be cached then, and can the cache persist beyond a reboot? Or, does the cache get flushed along with all /system mods that were cached prior to rebooting?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Big Dawg 23:
Never said it was gospel, however, seems to have it right most of the time. It is odd that all of sudden they would start to lock devices. In the end this defeats the open alliance on Android.

I just went the G2 regardless of the lock done/bug on NAND. I had the Droid X and dealt with it.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frenchie746:
With the new info coming out about T-mo charging for tethering it doesn't suprise me in the least that the phones are coming out locked.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gaww:
I assume "NAND is write protected - end of story" means that there will be no permanent root and therefore no custom ROM's?

If that is the case, I have 20 days to see what I can do with temp root and if the functionality is enough to get me to keep it over my nexus or return it.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aznpr1de808:
i agree even if it is locked there is still high hopes for the MT4G... look at the G2, with a temp root and a 1.42Ghz OC it still surpasses all other android devices in both speed and quadrant... and thats only with a temp root. so as long as we can temp root and OC the MT4G i think it will make at least some poeple happy therefore gaining more Devs to join in and start cracking into it. and if in the end you still dont like it just return it. ;) jus the thought of OCin the MT4G to 2.0 Ghz makes me drool... ;)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericc191:
Damn, I was hoping this phone wouldn't be locked the same way the G2 is.. Nexus One looking mighty sexy again..
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kitsunisan:
Well, has anyone with the Mytouch been able to confirm this? It's only come out today, we'll know in a few days if it can be permanently rooted or not.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xcobrax81:
Nexus 1 never stopped looking mighty sexy...

I just picked up a MT4G and I am going to give my Nexus to my mom (She uses wireless tether ALL the time I never do.) Plus she has a G1 right now.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lvlolvlo:
okay so i've been playing with the glacier since i got it ~10am, and i've tried some of the evo methods with two different comps (ubuntu and windows) however, thus far have not been able to come up with anything.

I've started playing around with the phone in general and it's pretty nice, esp the WiFi Calling as well as how it switches off the mobile radio when WiFi Calling connected.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hah2110:
So any disadvantages to using this method? Anyone getting bricked? Does it work for things like picme, titanium, mybackup reliably?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shineproductions:
I gained root using Visionary with no problems
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgro1976:
That method is only temporary, we're talking about permanent root like with the orig MT
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HamNCheese:
lol that's the thing.... They have been locking devices the whole time. What do you think Unrevoked, and every other recovery glitch method is all about? This method simply makes it more difficult for us to un-lock (perma-root) it due to the extra step of handling the eMMC write protection.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BrooklynAvi:
I'll be honest. I need full root for myself but I picked up this phone (which will be here Friday) for my wife who does not need full root. I only need Titanium for her so I can move her from the Slide to the MT4G so this temp root should be fine. Actually, temp root for my father and his G1 was perfect because he didn't feel like messing with custom ROMs like on the G1 and just wanted Titanium and tether which temp root gives. So, while it would be nice to get full root (and I'd consider getting one for myself if it did and I can get stock on it), temp root is actually valuable for many and for some, it actually makes more sense than going through what for many is a difficult and scary process just to get an important apps like Titanium. I hope full root comes but am glad that temp root works so I can move everything over from the Slide. This device has the internal storage so no ext is needed for apps like on the Slide with its abysmal G1-like storage.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gaww:
I am going to try this one with temp root and see if it will allow my most important non-stock features like tethering and Titanium backups. Question - will it be possible to do complete image backups with ROM Manager?

But then, without permanent root - it would probably not be possible to re-install them (could then possibly live with Titanium backups).
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] truthkillszz:
i was thinking about getting one of these for me and one for my wife and possibly selling my hd2. Does it look like theres gonna be a decent amount of devs for this phone? cause thats why i traded my mt3g slide for the hd2.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
vissionary

i read and seen a video that this method is perm now cause they updated the app hadnt got a chanse to test it yet
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grankin01:
Are you talking about VISIONary? If that is what your talking about then be careful reading the app description. It says gives perm root to devices that are NON NAND/eMMC locked.

With paul having the other work around to delete stuff off the nand you got my hopes up.

:O

My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master_sk3:
so there is now permanent root on the G2 and mytouch 4g?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grankin01:
Not yet but the devs are close.

My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whodatfever:
Nope :) :(
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master_sk3:
I wanna get rid of all this bloatware and sense ui.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pilotguy415:
That isn't 100% true. My mytouch 4G is does not need re rooting with Visionary. I downloaded, rooted, made sure run at boot is unselected, rebooted the phone, went back into visionary, root........"your phone is already rooted"

Maybe the Mytouch 4G is NOT nand locked/eMMC locked
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grankin01:
Pretty sure it is.

Try this:

1: go into settings

2: go to applications

3: uncheck fastboot

4: reboot and check root

With fastboot checked the phone apparently isn't flushing the cache and undoing changes. Its more like it goes into hibernation.

My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
This is because when you push "Power Off" it's not really turning off the phone but putting it into a super-hibernation mode, hence why you're able to reboot in 2-3seconds versus other phones. Turn off "Fast Boot" under Home Screen > Menu > Applications, or select the "Reboot" option which actually does shut the phone down then restarts it. Third option is to pull the battery and start up.

In the last two cases, you will use root you gained via VISIONary app.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grankin01:
Beat you to it by a couple of keystrokes. :D

My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pilotguy415:
Dur...my bad...think I will keep fastboot enabled lol.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kitchencop:
that is because the phone is in fastboot and doesnt really turn off just hibernates
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
Indeed. :) *bow*

Back to lurking for me!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grankin01:
Just funnin' with ya. You did go into a little more detail than I did. *bow to you*. :D

My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cl2eep:
I always laugh when people say they can't believe HTC or TMO would "lock down" a device. These devices have been locked since day one! The G1 was locked! Just because other devices had glaringly obvious exploits doesn't mean these were purposefully left in. This is nothing new, they just did a better job this time. Here's hoping the MT4G has more in common w/ the MTS than the G2.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timbo1083:
I understand vision process disabling apps. How do I retiree tendering out of it though. Brand new tmo and Android here. Glad to be in the family.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbrew78:
This may be a stupid question, but I'm gonna put it out there anyway. Is there any possible way to copy T-Mobile's signature? If someone could figure out how to do that we could just edit the source, sign it as T-Mobile and apply it like a stock update. Seems too easy, so I'm guessing it's impossible to copy the signature. Would make things much easier for future phones though if someone could figure out how to copy the stock signature...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teamsilence:
lol

don't you think if it was that easy any of these amazing devs would have done that lmao:D
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stoute:
That's an interesting idea. I'm sure its possible but I doubt tmo hadnt encrypted the signature to prevent the copy. They probably change it with each update to ensure it doesn't get copied too.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbrew78:
No need to be a douche...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topgun303:
Is anyone working on "Odin one click recovery" for Mytouch 4g? I would always like to go back to stock if something goe wrong.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crpercodani:
AFAIK odin=samsung so, no.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jesemalave1:
that is completly true my negro
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] likeitnot:
Noob question/concern:

Okay I just got my myTouch 4G yesterday and I am going to be using VISIONary to temp. root it. Now temp root will allow me to get rid of this bloatware correct? I don't ever load custom roms, etc, I just want to be able to delete the unwanted applications and screen shots. Well I would also like to make the phone go even faster than it already does (overclocking it) but I don't even know what program/settings to use to do that so I guess that's out of the question (for now), ha. Thanks again for the response(s) ahead of time.

*edit* dear gaww sorry, the answer to my question was in this thread all along I looked over it sorry. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=809231
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shafty023:
No we would need their developer key used for this phone in order to do it and I doubt we'll be able to get a hold of them. All we have and use for every custom mod/application is the same developer key floating around.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PlankLongBeard:
Just ran Visionary and installed autokiller and such. Much better. Set CPU reads that the device runs at 1024 stock. So just a tad bit more than a gig. Hmm...

I really wanna see what happens to this when its ready to be stripped with root!

Sent From The Moon... From a HTC Glacier :)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] corwest:
Never mind.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] absoluthamm:
Actually 1024MHz is a 1GHz exactly...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borodin1:
G2 is very close to being perma-rooted. They already figured out what sets bootloader to S-OFF. That means as soon as they nail it - we get to play too.

Source
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floepie:
Huh? That sounds like fuzzy math to me.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hammondnav:
It's because the speeds are defined in terms of powers of two, not powers of ten. So instead of 1000 we use (2 ^ 10) which is 1024.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floepie:
Wanna bet? ;) 1000 MHz = 1 GHz. Look it up.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r0mmel:
Hammondnav.. i wouldnt bother betting, we all know whats up with the binary thingy ..hehe :)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kitchencop:
On digital systems, your are dealing with a binary system which means you have a base of (2), as an example:

KiloX = 2^10 X = 1024 X

MegaX=2^20 KiloX = 1024 KiloX

GigaX=2^30 MegaX = 1024 MegaX

(X=Hz or Byte)

Analog systems

KiloX = 1000 X

MegaX= 1000 KiloX

GigaX=1000 MegaX

(X=Hz or Byte)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floepie:
I humbly stand corrected. I always thought the binary system applied only to storage or memory size, not proc cycling. Good to know.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
This 1024 vs. 1000 argument is kinda pointless, it's something you still see argued vehemently in the field with major companies(see: Apple). That said, we use base 2(1024) usually only in memory, since it's necessary there due to the way memory is addressed/manufactured(a single chip of RAM/flash memory has to come in an even power of 2, due to the way they are made). There is no similar restriction when it comes to processor clock speeds, so there's no real reason to use base 2. You can, I suppose, but there's no real reason to.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r0mmel:
I think i use facebook too much, i was trying to find the like button, hehe
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bateluer:
*Crosses fingers*
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] march7th:
Just saw on Twitter from Paul and others that the G2 has been nand unlocked!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] notxel21:
That's correct! :cool:

So the MT4G should be close behind. I can't wait! :D
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjlean:
Yes, they have root... :)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teamsilence:
Woot!

it's funny because i woke up to find out my mytouch4g is getting delivered today and g2 is rooted! so good timing because this will help with mt4g root!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Whorok305:
Awesome, great news to wake up to.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nivek91:
So if i temp root with visionary, uncheck fastboot and i restart my phone, it will but unrooted correct? sorry still a newbie at all this
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] likeitnot:
That's what they say but its odd cause I did that and pulled my battery and it's still showing as rooted. Odd. I mean I'm not complaining but still. Well actually not entirely true I guess on my part cause I never unchecked fastboot I just pulled the battery so maybe I'm wrong.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1Satoshi:
g2 root on glacier?

someone see if this and the 4g have anything in common?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=833965
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] likeitnot:
can't wait till the myTouch 4G is perma-rooted ;D I have no problem with my temporary root now obviously, just saying.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unremarked:
It has been. :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=834225

Mods should probably delete this thread, imo.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] likeitnot:
Oh wow lol. Sorry I didn't even see that thread. Thanks so much I appreciate it!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crouchingpossum:
[Q] S= off using gfree but can't root, please help!

Please help, I'm trying to root so I can run netflix on mt4g, almost there (i think)

First of all thank you so much for those who have done the hard work and thank you to the folks that wrote: the true root article @

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=858996

I am trying to flash a custom recovery and panache: so i can flash roms (hoping to do: panache or CM7 and twrp recovery

(PG86IMG.zip) My end goal is to run netflix app on htc glacier)

I have succeeded in setting up ADB/SDK drivers, etc. (i feel like a virgin, just used command line for the very first time, I can feel my glaciers <3 beating next to mine)

On hboot i see: S=off

I am having a PROBLEM with TRUE ROOT gfree method

At step 12. It says:

"If this is the first time you have rooted your device you will need to run visionary again (temproot w/set system r/w after root checked and then attempt permroot) to make root privileges permanent and then reboot again. Now "su" should work properly for you."

I've run into a problem :

I restarted in hboot and I see s=off but when I try to open terminal:

It reads:

$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH

$su

PERMISSION DENIED

I tried to run temproot and permroot on visionary + R14 to "seal the deal" & move onto install of the engineering bootloader

It appears I am stuck in between temproot and perm root won't stick for some reason ...

FYI: all sorts of apps force closed immediately after reboot after I ran the reboot it says s=off and has bootloader version 0.86.0000

I just did:

1. a factory reset from hboot

2. Reinstalled visionary + R14

3. And ... astro file manager, terminal emulator app and easy installer, etc

4. i have all the files that the TRUE ROOT thread reccomended but terminal emulator says permission denied when I type: su

PERMISSION DENIED

It looks to me like visionary Is not properly establishing temp root or perm root after s=off.

Suggestions please.

thank you,

CP

HTC GLACIER

s=off

bootloader version 0.86.0000

also: HTC DREAM aka Tmobile g1 rooted with cyanogen old school

Ps: I'm new to the forum culture and I want to be sure to be respectful and post properly; if this is not a proper place for this kind of asking for help please redirect me patiently
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Turion37:
I got the MT4G and temp rooted 2.2.1 without a problem. I got the update to 2.3.4 in store, and am not able to temp root. Anyone know of how to do this?

Also, anyone know how to get other languages for selection instead of just the default of English/Espanol.....?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeeJay3800:
Root access of any kind is not available on Gingerbread. If you want temp or perm root, you'll have to restore back to Froyo first.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jgobeil:
Humm... There is something I don't understand. How can one flash another version (Froyo) without being rooted first ???
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
There is a way to get temp root shell on Gingerbread.

fre3vo does it.

Please look at the threads and find the link for how to downgrade, both General and Q&A have threads on the first couple of pages that link to it.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeeJay3800:
According to Jack, you can get temp root, but it's not necessary. You restore to Froyo by flashing the PD15IMG file through the bootloader, so root isn't required.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
Sometimes PD15IMG doesn't work - showing "main version is older". This is where the hack using temp-root comes in, that allows flashing the PD15IMG.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeeJay3800:
Temp rooting doesn't allow flashing of a custom recovery, so does that mean PD15IMG can be flashed via terminal commands? That's the only method I can think of that would allow flashing of a stock image with only temp root (excluding bootloader).
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
No, PD15IMG is only for bootloader. But it seems that partition 17 (misc?) is writable from terminal commands under temp root - which allows faking the "main version" to make it older, which in turn allows flashing PD15IMG through bootloader in a regular way.

Oh well, I'll post the link here too:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeeJay3800:
Might as well keep that link handy. I have a feeling more and more people who've upgraded to Gingerbread will want to root afterwards.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jgobeil:
Thank you all for the valuable info about going back to 2.2.1. Much appreciated.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Turion37:
Thanks guys. I'll try the ABD method to downgrade. But if I can get temp root on the phone all I want to do is to remove the crap apps imposed. Is there anyway to back up the 2.3.4 first so if I wanted to install it again it would go?

sorry, once again, anyone know how to get the additional language support? basically to install a language you want?

I guess if I am not able to get the language, then I'll have to perm root and get a ROM that supports it. I know the Cyanogen CM7 does support it, but I've found it to be buggy (on the Cliq). Any thoughts would be helpful...thanks.

EDIT: Is the update package really 312mb? I'm surprised as the Cliq ROMS were around 85mb...must be all the crapware in it...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
You can't do anything with temp root - you won't have the capability to write to /system, your writes will not go through - bootloader protects it. So you need to turn your bootloader S-OFF. That you can achieve by running gfree, but I'm not sure gfree works on bootloader 0.89. Since it turns off the security flag directly - it might work.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Turion37:
Thanks for suggesting that. I downloaded Autokiller and removed System Panel Lite and things appear to being going great. Trick seems to be having Auto Memory Manger set installed also and set to 300 then battery usage is terrific. Other than the language support, I can be happy with that. I'll have to keep monitoring the performance for the next week to be sure.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] furydude39:
Totally freakin frustrated

Yes I am a nube, but I have been around the block a few times, I have scoured this site looking for answers and have found none that work.

Yesterday I was rooted with S-off and able to flash new roms at will. Today, I am on stock 2.2.4 with S-off and a freshly factory dev unlocked phone.

The problem, I cant get root no matter what I try. Its as if the phone is mocking me. G-free, Rage, VISIONary, all come back with the same results. I cant write to the phone no matter what. Cant downgrade, cant change the version #.

DOES ANY ONE HAVE ANY IDEAS ?????

E:\root>adb shell

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully *

$ chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/fre3vo

chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/fre3vo

$ /data/local/tmp/fre3vo -debug -start FAA90000 -end FFFFFFFF

/data/local/tmp/fre3vo -debug -start FAA90000 -end FFFFFFFF

Locating access point...

This device does not support this exploit.

This device does not support this exploit.

The exploit has failed.

$