yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Accessories] lannatwin:
I am using the Andida battery as well. Seems to perform about like the original battery, which is what I expected.

Had a similar experience using a Mugen battery in the Hero.

For the money, I have no complaints with the Andida.
[Desire HD Accessories] damien699:
I purchased a cheaper battery off ebay, and it seems to last longer. Checked adb shell, and its reporting 101% charged. also current capacity 1240mA full capacity 1230mA. Strange!! Maybe the desire cannot determine bigger batteries.

Anyone else getting strange results?

Percentage(%): 100;

KADC(%): 100;

RARC(%): 101;

V_MBAT(mV): 4206;

Main_battery_ID(Kohm): 158;

pd_M: 0;

Current(mA): 18;

Temp: 25;

Charging_source: 1;

ACR(mAh): 1241;

FULL(mAh): 1230;

1st_dis_percentage(%): 100;

1st_dis_ACR: 1229;
[Desire HD Accessories] lejars1:
Well, I'm still wating for my Mugen battery.

I was trying to find out more about dealing with battery problems but the thread was closed be cause apparently there is already a rolled up battery sticky somewhere.

I pm'd the mod to ask where it is - but I've received no reply as yet. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=11666536#post11666536

Anyone know where it might be?
[Desire HD Accessories] damien699:
Can anyone else here use this and post results with aftermarket battery

adb shell

cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_attr_text

mine is up to 1244mA WTF
[Desire HD Accessories] kramerty88:
Try wiping battery stats... Maybe it makes a difference.
[Desire HD Accessories] damien699:
i did wipe. Battery to me definately lasts longer.
[Desire HD Accessories] tids2k:
Damein post the battery link. Will check for u.
[Desire HD Accessories] iros0:
andida was over rated mah

hello,

i was trying andida battery on my htc topaz one year ago and i can say andida give over rated indication on mah for their product, i can't see any improvement with this battery rated at 1700mah .

with this experience i can say :

same size like stock battery= same mah like stock battery

china battery producer like to over rated their product, not just for the phone battery, flashlight li-ion battery are all over rated (about 30% over rated)for example.

keep that in mind.
[Desire HD Accessories] damien699:
What link? Where I got the battery from?
[Desire HD Accessories] stylus1828:
Does anyone of you used this battery from mugen ? It's rated at 1500 mAh.

http://www.mugenpoweronline.com/product_info.php?products_id=850

Thanks guys.
[Desire HD Accessories] lejars1:
Wow, I'm still waiting for my Mugen 1300

However no one seems to have tried any Mugen at all so we don't really know what any of them are like
[Desire HD Accessories] damien699:
Sorry what link did you mean?
[Desire HD Accessories] lejars1:
Well I've just ordered one.

We'll see
[Desire HD Accessories] stylus1828:
Ok lejars1. Please post more feedback when you receive it and test it. I wanna know how does it work. Maybe I'll get one 2. :)
[Desire HD Accessories] lejars1:
Will do.

However, I really need somehelp finding this rolled up battery thread. The discussion wI was in before was locked by the mod and he hasn't replied to my request to know where the thread is.

This is a great phone, but I'm in danger of spending the same again in batteries!!!
[Desire HD Accessories] damien699:
Is this the one --> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=937080

i found this very useful
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
WOW I checked this out last night. Said added Feb 14, 2011 to site. I thought ok, Mugen is a safe reliable company, so I ordered one. Got confirmation email, "order processing now". Just clicked my order, and I can see everything through my account page, but now the link goes to "not found" page, and you can't find anything on the Desire HD for batteries, or for Desire HD at all for that matter. If you search "Desire HD" you get "There is no product that matches the search criteria." Anybody else get the same?
[Desire HD Accessories] lejars1:
That is very worrying. Have you contacted them?
[Desire HD Accessories] Vispe85:
I think that this was under discussion before (can't really recall the thread or if it was even on xda) somewhere around new years that they had a same 1500 battery on their site and it was later withdrawed... Could it be that it somehow got back to the site and was deleted again, just a wild guess. Does anyone remember that kind of discussion somewhere?
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
I remember that. That was for a 1600. Not this one. The odd thing is there is not one thing found for DHD at all. They had a 1300 up for the longest time. Now nothing. My order status is now processing, so I guess I'll see in a little if it ships.
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Not yet. Gonna wait to see if the site changes, and if my order gets cancelled or ships. If nothing changes within a few days I will contact them.
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Received email today. Battery just shipped. Said 7 - 10 days for delivery, so I will keep you posted. I did read somewhere else that they remove some items from listing if they are out of stock instead of keeping it up, and having a million questions of when it will be back, so maybe that is why I can't find it anymore? In either case mine is on its way! :D
[Desire HD Accessories] MrGarak:
Hmm interesting, and strange! Surely it's an odd business policy to take items out of your store completely instead of accepting back-orders and putting up an approximate stock availability date?

Good news though if they have decided to start selling a 1500mAh model, I'll get one if they're any use.
[Desire HD Accessories] janyung:
Andida 1800mAh battery is FAKED!!!

dear all,

i have bought the Andida 1800mAh and it delivered today.

after inserted in my DHD, i found the below result with adb shell

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *

* daemon started successfully *

# cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_attr_text

cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_attr_text

Percentage(%): 79;

KADC(%): 92;

RARC(%): 79;

V_MBAT(mV): 4072;

Main_battery_ID(Kohm): 157;

pd_M: 0;

Current(mA): 395;

Temp: 24;

Charging_source: 1;

ACR(mAh): 962;

FULL(mAh): 1230;

1st_dis_percentage(%): 66;

1st_dis_ACR: 810;

#

which means it is overstated and IT IS FAKED THAT IT IS "EXTENDED" :mad:

so, i can finally trust the other member said that " same size battery is also same capacity" ....
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
Indeed :) if the OEM batteries could have extended capacity by 50%-100%, you can guarantee that a) the battery that ships with the phone woud have more than 1230mah, and b) there would be an official battery with extended capacity.

Of course, they can probably squeeze a few mah extra (10%?) into the same volume battery

The size issue is like trying to fit 2 litres of water into a 1 litre container ;) Given the design of the DHD, there is a definitive limitation as to how many mah can fit into that tiny slot.

It beats me why there are so many battery threads here. These vendors are simply relabelling and preying on people who want to believe.

If you can't get through 16 hours between charges and are not near a charger, for €25 you can get a 5000mah battery pack off Amazon - which means you will then have 6230mah at your disposal. I got one, and it works a treat (it has 2 usb ports, so you can charge phone, iPod etc etc simultaneously). It behaves just like a charger, so you unplug it once you're satisfied with the charge level.

There is also a 11000mah version for those of you who who will not find a charger in 14 days ;)
[Desire HD Accessories] batreky:
Please Guys which battery is the Best with Desire HD
[Desire HD Accessories] andreasy:
Stock. Cheaper and REAL. All the rest are lies. This is proved by the results of the command you saw above. They are all 1244mAh like the stock. Even if you see 200,000, it's stupid to believe it. You need a larger size battery to have higher capacity. Pure common sense, nothing more.
[Desire HD Accessories] Aamir.Badat:
Will the HTC thunderbolt battery fit the desire HD?
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
You can fit more in the same size if not smaller size. Just look around at some batteries that come with phones from other makers. Even HTC does it. It really comes down to how it's done. My Nexus One battery is the same physical size as my DHD yet it's a higher capacity.
[Desire HD Accessories] lejars1:
I have to agree with this. Even if you look at normal AA or AAA cells, you will see that there are some which are very much more powerful - and more expensive too.
[Desire HD Accessories] andreasy:
Yes but this has to go together with the voltage capacity of the battery right?
[Desire HD Accessories] este548:
Couple of days ago I received 1600mA battery, same you can see on eBay, no idea who is maker, but you can buy it in various internet shops in Slovakia too. Noticed no difference, except the fact that during charging it stops showing increase in percentage around 65 % and then after an hour or so it is fully charged showing 100 %. Didn't have high hopes neither, so just using it as replacement battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] hoaza:
Nice need more batterie
[Desire HD Accessories] kompolaga:
obo store

Guys take a look at obo store.

It is a website from China and I don't remember where I got it from (maybe from another forum) but ordered one of the batteries of 1800mah for the DHD

Its only $10 with free shipping worldwide. I dunno if the site is trustable (it seems like it) I paid with paypal so hopefully no worries

I still didn't receive it yet but as soon I get it I will be posting info on the battery life.
[Desire HD Accessories] sj89:
neeeed more juiceee
[Desire HD Accessories] wilfredtee:
Another one bites the dust... I'm currently using that exact same andida 1800mAh battery from obostore. So far its been about 2 week... yet to see the improvement between the stock 1230mAh and this 1800mAh battery.

I consider it a cheap spare battery for now.
[Desire HD Accessories] Aamir.Badat:
Its not a 1800 its the same 1230ma battery I got the same results as HTC battery
[Desire HD Accessories] wilfredtee:
Yup, I agree.
[Desire HD Accessories] ziyaad89:
Just bought 2 1600 mah batteries frm ebay including the charger for $12. Should be here soon.
[Desire HD Accessories] ziyaad89:
Is there an application I can download to check the capacity of the batteries ? I hope I didn't get ripped off coz I bought 2 1600 mah frm ebay
[Desire HD Accessories] MrGarak:
Don't think it was mentioned here, they posted this on their Facebook:
[Desire HD Accessories] XA-R01:
Who? Mugen?
[Desire HD Accessories] MrGarak:
Yeah, right here: http://www.facebook.com/MugenPowerBatteries

Under the Desire HD comment posted on the 1st March.
[Desire HD Accessories] andreasy:
Can anyone with a rooted phone try the shell commands on the Mugen battery. I am using the 1300 Mugen battery and I have the feeling that it lasts less than the stock and I am very curious to see if it will be shown as 1300 or 1230.

If anyone can test this it will be very helpful for us who don't have root access.
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Just arrived! MP 1500. Going to give it a good charge, and run some tests.
[Desire HD Accessories] mackemsrule:
Well i paid a full £2.19 for this battery and its not the stated power lol.

cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_attr_text

Percentage(%): 76

KADC(%): 100;

RARC(%): 76;

V_MBAT(mV): 4172;

Battery_ID: 1;

pd_M: 0;

Current(mA): 308;

Temp: 24;

Charging_source: 1;

ACR(mAh): 923;

FULL(mAh): 1230;

1st_dis_percentage(%): 74;

1st_dis_ACR: 903;
[Desire HD Accessories] Aamir.Badat:
Post results as soon as you can ;)
[Desire HD Accessories] MrGarak:
I guess it exists then lol, strange it's still not on their website.
[Desire HD Accessories] andreasy:
Wait for the results because you may get disappointed. :p:p:p
[Desire HD Accessories] g.lewarne:
back in the days with my HD2, we had an exact thread like this, which claimed to debunk the higher capacity However, what we later found out, and might well be the case here is that the mAh reportging system will always say 1230 as the capacity as its being read directly from the battery control circuit, and is a hard coded value.

Have you noticed how everyones capacity is reading as 1230? thats impossible even with stock batteries there will be variances of up to +-10%

I had an andida battery for the hd2 claiming to be 1600mah, (stock was again 1230) and after testing with a multimeter and a constant draw circuit it was in fact discovered that its was higher capacity, around 1500 iirc. Its just a case that the phone is expecting a certain capacity and the chargind and reporting circuits are worked around that capacity.

the only way you will every truly know if a battery is higher capacity or not is if someone tests them outside the phones in a controlled environment ;) everything else is just speculation
[Desire HD Accessories] thinker3300:
has any one actually used any of "Mugen's" batteries are they legitimate?

really want to know
[Desire HD Accessories] XA-R01:
I understand that you talk about extended batteries generally, not spesific to a brand. But by reading your experienc above, we can conclude that andida and mugen batteries can be trusted, right?
[Desire HD Accessories] jan-willem3:
Andida not but mugen makes a difference for sure.
[Desire HD Accessories] andreasy:
I'm not sure. We haven't seen a conformation yet from a rooted user and the 1500 version make me think. :confused::confused:
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
I just did my first full charge on the 1500. The instructions say at least 5 full cycles before reaching full potential, so I will wait until then to "test", but so far I'm seeing a vast improvement even on the first cycle. What normally would have my phone at about 20% by this time with the use I gave it I now have 54%.
[Desire HD Accessories] MrGarak:
Anyone know if it's discontinued or what? Still no sign of the 1500 on their website?
[Desire HD Accessories] lannatwin:
Why don't you contact them? I found Mugen to be very responsive.
[Desire HD Accessories] andreasy:
Since no one could provide that info, I rooted my phone and checked the Mugen 1300mAh battery. It is also a big LIE. it is 1230mAh and not 1300.

I bet that the 1500 is also the same regardless of statements of lasting longer. That would depend on many factors.
[Desire HD Accessories] ricebus:
how did you check this?
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
You need to check using a third party with equipment to do it. Rooting and testing on the DHD itself will NOT give accurate results. Period.
[Desire HD Accessories] andreasy:
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_attr_text

That shows 1230
[Desire HD Accessories] Raipe43:
I've contacted Mugen, and they are going to release a 1500mAh battery in mid april.
[Desire HD Accessories] Simba501:
Hope this happens

Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire
[Desire HD Accessories] MrGarak:
Fantastic news if theres truth in it.
[Desire HD Accessories] Aamir.Badat:
Cannot wait :)
[Desire HD Accessories] Raipe43:
If you don't believe it, you can always go and ask yourself :)
[Desire HD Accessories] ShadowClon3:
great news for us all DHD user :)
[Desire HD Accessories] avatar7:
This is the response I got back from Mugen Support:

Thanks for your kind email and interest in a Mugen power battery for a HTC Desire HD phone. Currently it is not possible to offer a battery with larger capacity than 1300mAh for this model of phone, due to technical and hardware restrictions. If there are any developments in the near future, we will inform you immediately. If you have more questions or need additional information, please do not hesitate to let us know. We will be happy to assist.

Kindest regards,

Xxandr

Sales Department
[Desire HD Accessories] avatar7:
Another email I just received:

Thank you for your email!

We will upgrade the 1300mAh batter for HD to 1500mAh on middle of April!

Please contact me if you need any additional info.

Best Regards,

Jan
[Desire HD Accessories] DuoM:
Thanks for posting this. I was going to contact Mugen myself after you posted the last email because different people were getting different replies.

Now it's a question of Desire HD, Incredible S or wait for the EVO 3D to be released as a GSM model.
[Desire HD Accessories] fatthumb:
This email is kinda contradicting with some of the guys who have bought 1500mah Mugen battery for DHD?
[Desire HD Accessories] avatar7:
Depends who you email.

If you get in contact with: www . mugen-power-batteries . com

They will say 1500mah battery is coming in mid april.

If you get in contact with: www . mugenpowerbatteries . info/

They say that there is no new battery coming out.

So I have no idea. I've just sent them both emails and thats the repsonse I got from posts above.

Really do hope they release a 1500mah battery...
[Desire HD Accessories] DuoM:
I presume you meant mid-April.

Anyway I sent them a message a little while ago pointing out some of the different responses they have given so far (as well as the fact that it appears that at least some people are already getting this battery) and asking for clarification of the situation.

I don't have a DHD yet and for me It's a no-go with the standard battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] MrGarak:
Guess theres some confusion down at Mugen HQ. :p

The battery exists as we've seen in the pics posted so lets wait and see what happens.
[Desire HD Accessories] avatar7:
Oops. That right I meant mid-april. No idea where I got November from :P
[Desire HD Accessories] DuoM:
I contacted Mugen yesterday afternoon and told them that some people had been told that there would be no 1500 mAh battery for the Desire HD, that some people had been told that there would be one in mid-April and that some people had apparently already received this battery.

I asked them to clarify the situation. I also asked if it would come with a battery door.

Here is the relevant part of the reply that I received this morning:

"Thank you for your email!

We cannot make the 1500mAh battery in few months ago, and we will have it upgrade within a month, the 1500mAh battery come without the battery door, it's same size with the stock battery.

Please contact me if you need any additional info."

So it looks like this battery is a go.
[Desire HD Accessories] lejars1:
Well I got one - and it seems to work pretty well.
[Desire HD Accessories] DuoM:
How would you say it compares to the original? 10% longer? 20% longer? 30% longer?
[Desire HD Accessories] mariog9:
Well, it seems that it's still to be done, so if you get the e-mail from the sales department, they'll say that there is no 1500mah battery, but if you get the e-mail from the developers instead, they say it will show up this month.

lack of inside-communication? ^.-
[Desire HD Accessories] avatar7:
Where did you buy yours from if you don't mind me asking?
[Desire HD Accessories] lejars1:
Directly from the Mugen site - so I'm a bit puzzled by the mixed messages as to availability
[Desire HD Accessories] avatar7:
Really. you got a link that would could share please? I couldn't find it...
[Desire HD Accessories] fatthumb:
I am really wondering what are the differences between the 2 websites? That makes the potential buyer really confused...
[Desire HD Accessories] MrGarak:
They have a bunch of websites.

http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com

http://www.mugenbattery.com

http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com

I think somebody mentioned a .info address as well. Maybe some are just retailers not distributors.
[Desire HD Accessories] asphaltkiller:
install system monitor on the market then press MENU and view device info and the scroll down to the FULL MAH line and tell me if you see 1230mah or more??
[Desire HD Accessories] bobbyphoenix:
Any battery you test on the phone itself will show 1230 because that is the programed amount by HTC. You need to use a mulitmeter to determine true capacity.
[Desire HD Accessories] tkolev:
The phone itself is a multimeter (not very accurate though) and you can calculate the capacity using this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1019786

The values in the screenshot are from 5 min periods - when used with an old 5 sec log file (I used that when developing the application), the results are more accurate. I'm currently making 5 sec full cycle measurement and I'll post the results when it's done.
[Desire HD Accessories] cchernets12:
How long will the 3200 battery last?
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
what is that??
[Desire HD Accessories] dlads:
I've tried a load of these so called better battery life (mugen and others) batteries, and to be honest, they aren't a lot (if any) better than the stock battery, it's time to face facts, the Desire hd battery is just poor, dire even, no matter how you slice it, however you can get a day out of it with the stock one if you do it right.

Just make sure you take all the needed measures to ensure that you get the most out of your battery and don't leave apps eating away at it in the background, an iphone4 with regular use will only last about a day, lots of other phones only last about a day too.

Also it's good to take note that it's a 1230mah battery in the DHD and it powers a huge screen and tonnes of apps and background processes, trust me, a day out of that puny little thing and for what you can get out of your DHD is quite an accomplishment, i admit that the battery that was released with the DHD is small and could have been a lot bigger but that's life i suppose.

The time it will take before a decent alternative battery is released there will be other phones out and most ppl will have upgraded.

I'm hopeful yet sceptical that we will ever get a better battery which significantly improves the battery life of the DHD (ever) so i would just face facts and get used to it the way it is :)
[Desire HD Accessories] nexy33:
i bought a desk dock and charger and keep a spare batt in my wallet it dont take up much room
[Desire HD Accessories] dlads:
That's exactly what I did today, the newer roms just munch the dhds battery to death, especially the sense ones.

Spare battery is the way forward.
[Desire HD Accessories] DuoM:
I considered this when looking at the DHD but the battery compartment door was so flimsy that I decided that it would probably break after a few battery swaps. In fact the guy in the store almost broke it (he bent the clips a little) when I asked him to pull the battery and then put it back in.

Not one of HTC's better designs.
[Desire HD Accessories] MrGarak:
Yeah it's quite poor but you can get the knack of it. The only thing that bothers me more is the awful responsiveness of the volume down button, terrible! At least on my device it is.
[Desire HD Accessories] dlads:
Pull from the middle to lower part of the battery cover, the top half seems to hurt it more, i pull mine quite a bit, you do get the hang of it, always clip the bottom bit in first too.
[Desire HD Accessories] I'm TheQuest:
Hi dladz

It's the only way of turning it off at moment. :eek:, :D:D

Take Care

TheQuest :cool:
[Desire HD Accessories] Nichie:
yeah always pull from the bottom part where there is a notch...

when it unsnaps from the bottom slowly make your way to the top.

HOWEVER, under no circumstances should you put the cover back without the battery inside....

it will be damn hard to remove the cover.

did that once and have to use a thin flat object to pry the cover open resulting is come scratches to the cover :(
[Desire HD Accessories] fatthumb:
I scratched my DHD battery cover and case too while trying to open the cover. They have a serious design issue here, even the HTC care staff also have difficulty removing it =.=
[Desire HD Accessories] The_Greek:
In my opinion the search for a better battery, than stock, for DHD is pretty pointless ppl...
[Desire HD Accessories] I'm TheQuest:
Hi The_Greek

+1

Take Care

TheQuest :cool: