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[Vibrant Android Development] android53:
If there was no real overclocking then where did some peoples instability come from?

Even if nothing comes from this atleast you found an awesome new way to cheat benchmarks !
[Vibrant Android Development] jcc332006:
Yeh, Keep Up The Good Work Team Whiskey. Want You Keep Your Sarcastic Sidenote To Yourself Buster!!. Wait until a stable release without coming off like a smart A___!!
[Vibrant Android Development] drizze99:
Moonfire, there is an old saying:

If you don't have anything positive or constructive to say, STFU. You don't ever help anyone in the Bionix threads. All you do is kiss Team Whiskey's ass and be a smartass to everyone else...

Atlas, thank you for answering my questions....
[Vibrant Android Development] gfropr:
I think you answered my question as well, thank you!
[Vibrant Android Development] stephenj37826:
i think its due to the performace profile itself. can anyone test this out? My phone runs hotter than 1.2 and it is snappier than 1.2. like i said neocore looked right when on conservative as well as hero of sparta angry bird ect. ect.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Come on moon, you act as though you've never been the victim of the placebo effect. :p I'm sticking with this for now, til they re-release. I've had no issues with it, and placebo effect or not, my phone sure does "feel" faster.
[Vibrant Android Development] jcc332006:
Thanks Man!!! Lol!
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
No, the question should be, if there was no real overclocking, then why did many people's phones "as they said" become faster and smoother and ****?

Others (like me) got instabilities because it's a freaking kernel that changes internal configurations of the hardware of the unit. it is perfectly normal to experience instabilities. but is it normal to experience SPEEDUPS when the kernel doesn't really clock up the CPU? lol

EDIT:

now that i see the second statement.... what an insult that is.. lol

EDIT:

anyway, im still excited about this, im still using this kernel.

Viral, if you need more time dont rush it, its better to release a more

stable product in a few days than releasing it with some issues today. (today sounds nice, bring it!)
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
If I'm getting viral, and I think I am, this pretty much left or processors the same, and slowed down the world around it (the rest of the phone). That said, we SHOULD have seen what would have appeared to us be improvements. Viral, any idea as to what the processing speed is legitimately maxing at?
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
I feel dumb for not knowing if I have to remove ext2 files to flash jacs rom over this I know I have to undo the lag fix

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
No, you don't have to remove them.
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
Okay, this will be my last post on xda. For those of you who would like my help with anything in the future, PM me. I'll still make videos for those who want them. I'll still read the OP and tell you what it says over and over until you finally figure out where it is. I'll kiss team whiskey's butt for as long as they keep putting out great work! They do what I know I can't, and have never claimed I could.

I truly have read every single post in the bionix thread, fusion thread, and this thread. I get annoyed by those who disrespect those who take the time to learn things and then ask them to spoon feed them everything. I have also tried to give back more in this forum than I have received. If I have helped you, I am glad. If I have not, I am sorry.
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
dude, dont let the others get to you. if they think you're a smartass then good, at least they dont think you're a noob.

anyway, the bottom line is, we still have to wait for a new stable release.
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Thanks man

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] evanef:
I see you around a lot moon...grow some thicker skin, you got flamed is all. Don't you work for the fire dept.? Ironic :)
[Vibrant Android Development] cashyftw:
Well, I don't think your a smartass, your actually just telling people to read, instead of asking the same question over and over again, You could of worded it different, but hey, your you, if that's how you talk, then that's how you talk.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
I appreciate you, Moon. I enjoy your wit, and even your occasional rant! And you have helped me, without even being mean about it. Although I did tell you I was afraid of you and ask you not to yell at me, remember that? HAHA! Wow, I've gained a lot of knowledge in a short period of time, now that I think about it. All thanks to whiskey. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] cashyftw:
For anyone needing help, instead of starting all over, you could just flash the JACS kernel via Odin, saves a lot of time, but it's just a suggestion :D
[Vibrant Android Development] jcc332006:
Man Stop Trying To Take The Wuss Way Out LOL! I'm Sure Many People Here Appreciate Your Help. I Think What It Boils Down To Is Not Feeling It Necessary As Someone Else Stated To Put Others Down Because They Ask Questions. Somebody Probably Spoon Fed You OOOPS I'm Sorry You're PERFECT! Its' Absolutely Funny That You Would Consider It "Disrespectful" For Someone To Ask A Question And Then Turn Around And Have A Sarcastic Lip About It. Some People Take This A Little Overboard. If You Dont' Want To Answer Peoples Questions Then you shouldn't Do It. It Would Be Best To Be Quiet If You're Going To Turn Around And Put Em Down. Apologies Accepted! LOL!
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Can't cwm it? Just asking, well cause if I can I will lol

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
I'm almost positive you can, bro. Just go into rom manager, choose install, and pick your kernel you downloaded. I let rom manager do most of my work for me. Thus far, I don't even know what odin is because, thank goodness, I haven't had to use it.
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
I'm gonna get flamed for saying that last post was my last and then writing this.:confused: Call it being a wuss, or tell me to get thicker skin, but the reason I don't want to post anymore is for the very reason I write the same dang stuff over and over again. "Read, read, read" That's what I'm really saying. I do get annoyed easily. That comes off in my posts, I know. I'm not pointing at any one person, but at the group of people who do nothing or close to nothing on their own part before screwing up their phones and expecting someone to fix it for them and often they want that answer in the next 5 minutes.

With this thread in particular, there are so many people treating this as though they have a support hot line here on a product that really isn't out to the public. I can see reporting what is happening as a good thing. Asking for a fix or a mod already is childish. I doubt the devs really wanted to put this alpha release out there for everyone, except to show they are legit to the skeptics (I could be wrong).

I'll try to tame the inner flame. You know, firefighters also like to start the fires before they put them out.:D
[Vibrant Android Development] android53:
I was not trying to be disrespectful, I think the devs honestly did think they were onto something so there was no deception going on here.

The questions that need answering now are how much of those results were performance and how much were from slowing down the dalvik virtual machine.

I would love to have a genuine 1.6 ghz on my sgs, it is a high target to reach though...

If someone wants to test the delay, see if setcpu stresstest gives an accurate time, use a stopwatch
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Agreed man rom manager like a muf#cka

I think I'll keep it though and hope they just make the next version flashable over this one ya know it doesn't seem to be hurting anything even my 3d app scrolling is fast and I'm not overheating I dont know what 3d games people are playing but I dont have this phone for games anyway not hating on gamers but I have a ps3 for that lol

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
The only games I play on my phone are through emulators. I'm a zelda freak :p haven't had a problem with them.
[Vibrant Android Development] addison892:
Moonfire711, are you 12? You can dish it out but not receive it?

I personally have enjoyed your posts, and being a noob I believe I even received some of your rude crap myself, but once I excepted who you are I actually learned a few things and I get a kick out of you crushing other noobs.

So, man up, mature a little and continue to destroy the moral and future hope of all noobs.
[Vibrant Android Development] jcc332006:
It's all good moon! I understand where you coming from. I don't consider myself to be a tech wiz or anything. but I do know how to Read!! Lol Your Help here on the forums is greatly appreciated. How Do I Flash A Kernel?? LOL!!!
[Vibrant Android Development] evanef:
Since JI6 was officially released, I haven't heard much about Odin. It's awesome that the devs have been making everything so simple to install for the most part. On the other hand odin is truly as easy as learning how to play minesweeper for the first time, and it may come in handy in the future. If you ever need to go back to stock, you oughta try it...;)

always nice to meet another service member...USMC miramar.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Can I flash this over voodoo? ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
I'm screwed then....i suck at minesweeper lmao

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Heeeeey, ditto! To tell the truth, I don't know where to look to learn more about odin, or even linda. Probably because I don't even use a computer anymore, and searching xda on the phone app is a pain! And I've been too afraid of moon to ask ;) Hehe!
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
:mad: Is that man enough for you. J/K I can take it, just don't know if I want to. Kinda tired of the shiz being thrown around (including in my pm's). As for noobs, I am as much of a noob as anyone (look at my join date). I have seen some noobs do amazing things without questioning everything, especially things that have already been answered several times in the same thread. I'm simply attempting to get more of the xda users to be more self respecting individuals. Noobs have the power to learn 90% of what the rest of you already know by reading, not always asking.
[Vibrant Android Development] evanef:
lol....odin doesn't contain dragons or mines!
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Thank god the dragons I can handle but if im looking up at a dragon im gonna step on a mine so this is good news

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] turbosix:
Try playing sober!
[Vibrant Android Development] android53:
Stay on topic please people
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Okay, here we go. What is a dragon? I'm not even kidding here... I have a general idea.... That it's like a bug or something? Now go ahead and yell at me... Just give me an answer, or better yet, a link, while you do it. And a link to where I can learn more about odin would be great too. And better yet, how do I get linda to talk to me while I flash? All these things, I still have no clue about, but since I don't have a computer, I can't find the literature I need to learn on my own because searching on the xda app is a pain in the ass. By all means, pm me, so as not to water stuff down. I think if I finally learn what odin and dragons are, and get linda, I'll finally not be a noon anymore. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
What's the topic? Until a new release of the manhattan project, this thread is pretty much topic-less!
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
You got it man I've been checking the thread for any news or update on the possible next version of manhattin and was wondering if you maybe have any idea when we will see the next step forward cause I love it the idea of pushing this phone to the limits and still having them be stable its really interesting to me

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Looking forward to seeing the next version or"beta" test

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
I will do no such thing

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] turbosix:
no one asked you, noob.
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
I'll pm you your answers.
[Vibrant Android Development] Kubernetes:
You just have to learn to let it go. It frustrates me too, but the fact is that XDA is open to the public, and when people search Google to fix their broken phones, more often than not they'll end up here. If you've been here even a short while, you know that your problem has *probably* come up before and that it's probably searchable. But the guys landing here straight from a Google search, well, they're likely freaking out and all they're thinking is that this is an entire forum of "Vibrant experts" who can help them out.

It's really not their fault and there's little you can do to stem the tide of "noobs" coming in here and asking questions that have been answered 100 times over. Since there's nothing we can do, just accept it and don't answer the noobs who rub you the wrong way.

Just be the hollow reed--'let the negative energy flowwwww through you.' :D
[Vibrant Android Development] cashyftw:
Exactly, I love Rom Manager like crazy, but when I flashed this it got stuck at the lockscreen, and I had to resort back to my roots (odin). It's Legit if you have a hardware locked Vibrant ;]
[Vibrant Android Development] hypersonicx:
has the download link been removed?
[Vibrant Android Development] KellyLewis3985:
I have been running this kernel since it was posted. The only problems I have run into is it will freeze and I have to do a bat pull. Thats it this thing is almost perfect as it is.
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Mind pming me those answers....nothing wrong with some more knowledge

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Yeah they'll put it up again when its in beta

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] KellyLewis3985:
Im waiting as patient as I can for that.
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
Ahahaha, hahahaha. It's flowing right through me.:D
[Vibrant Android Development] smkr420:
Hit the nail on the head with that one Kubernetes, very true.
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
No worries.
[Vibrant Android Development] atlaswingpasaway:
now that's one retarded question. he could've just asked "why was the link removed?"
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Awesome

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] kuhan:
Strange... everything seemed to work fine for me... I suppose I just got lucky... which is the only thing I've had any luck with, because my battery is horrible.
[Vibrant Android Development] bootsie99:
This made me spit out my captain and coke right on my over clocked voodoo ipad
[Vibrant Android Development] demo23019:
Its not almost perfect considering they said they need to rewrite it..

3d performance is bad that one of main reasons its removed for the time being. This kernel doesn't magically work for you and not others.
[Vibrant Android Development] turbosix:
sounds like he's scared of reading the thread :D
[Vibrant Android Development] PaiPiePia:
Does anyone know what the voltage increase is at 1.6 Ghz?
[Vibrant Android Development] KellyLewis3985:
I havent had any problems with it. Im running the JI6 modem with it and a modified Kernel Support from eugene. So far its been great less some freezes.
[Vibrant Android Development] ebullient:
Wow, crazy. So I guess all that performance I thought I had was just a placebo?
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
They'll work it out to where it works solid and then it'll be even better in any case enjoy telling whoever doesn't know about xda that your phones performance is outstanding lol

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] KellyLewis3985:
I know how to read. I know what the OP says. Im stating that its running good for me, so why are you calling me a Liar or saying im wrong I have been playing several 3d games like Quake3Droid and Heavy Gunner 3d to name a few without the issues that I have read about. Just bc your phone isnt doing good doesnt mean I havent done anything to mine to make it work better.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
I'd like to commend moon for the pm support. Thank you.
[Vibrant Android Development] IDtheTarget:
It's from the original bionix thread. Peoole weren't paying attention to the directions on enabling and disabling Voodoo, and were running into problems. I think it was Master(tm) who started the semi-joke that running Voodoo released dragons. It's shorthand for doing something that can be dangerous.

IOW, if you're gonna run a Voodoo kernel without reading the TM and doing proper PMCS, then BOHICA because you're gonna be FUBAR... :)
[Vibrant Android Development] iTylerA:
A tidbit of irony:

I believe it's the lash fix that's slowing everything down. Without it, my 2d and 3d seem to be running at normal speed. Well do more testing when I'm out the shower. Trying not to wet up the Vibrant.

Can someone replicate? The kernel may not be as much of a problem as we think.

EDIT: to clarify, I WAS running the OCLF and saw the slow downs. Then I disabled OCLF.

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant Overclocked to 1.6GHz. Please excuse my Swype.
[Vibrant Android Development] demo23019:
I mainly put that since allot of people dont read not necessarily you.

And it only took you 3 post to hint/brag that "you might have done something to make yours work better" not cool misinforming others that kernel is working great when in fact you're supposedly using an optimized version :rolleyes:

BTW quake3droid was the first game i tried even Anderdroid the developer of quake3droid said something wasn't rite
[Vibrant Android Development] Anderdroid:
I don't think a lot of people understand... It IS overclocked. It IS a real overclock. Just because things are 'drawing slowly' doesn't necesarily mean that this is impossible or 'fake' or 'wont happen'. It's just a timer issue. Once this timer issue is fixed it will be faster than sdfaslfjafjasdfjdlaflskfafjglkglngfasflbsfhlkbhfkbf
[Vibrant Android Development] demo23019:
I dont use lag fixes IMO they are pointless and if this was the case they would have recommended not using one

Oh no doubt i cant wait for them to get it straightened out, going to be ridicules :D
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Heeeeeey..

I like this guy :)
[Vibrant Android Development] AustinKnight45:
Ya going to disable OCLF when i get my battery up to 40%:mad: I never liked it but I love voodo though.
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
AS would i

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
:off topic... As if we had a topic for this thread right now: I like it after I eat a slice of pizza and the little bit of grease left on my finger makes the touch screen easier to maneuver. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
Creates a lot of fun colors too lmao

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] :
Lmfao you wish you had a slice right now dont you lol

Sent from my wavy vibrant ! :)
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
As bad as this is to say I dont really eat when I drink booze cause it keeps me from getting drunk lol but now that I think of it pizza sounds good, strike all that I said before it's pizza time

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] moonfire711:
lol, that's what I'm eating right now.
[Vibrant Android Development] :
Lmao I'm about to order that good old papa johns lol

Sent from my wavy vibrant ! :)
[Vibrant Android Development] sycohnda209x:
For the ji6 support package where would I get it or cam someone put it in a flashable zip?

Im runining bionix fusion 1.1 with manhattan project 1.6 only freezes while playing psx or snea.
[Vibrant Android Development] ColbyRyptos:
i get just as annoyed by people posting the same questions over and over again and they are usually questions that if they need to ask then they probably shouldnt be viewing the topic.

as far as a fix what if the moderators restricted noob access to the development section... like they can view but not post... and if they have questions that can ask them in freaking Q&A lol

just an idea.

lol on the bright side im still running this manhattan kernel and honestly it seems fine for me. 3d stuff works fine. have not had a single freeze since i flashed it over fusion 1.1 and i flashed it 11 hours ago.

i keep it on 200-1600 performance profile. havnt had a problem with anything.. then again everything i have thrown at my phone it has taken very well.

edit:JI2 modem
[Vibrant Android Development] iTylerA:
Not sure if they have realized. Viral is running a lag fix on his according to the screens.

Here's how I figured:

I was testing after heating about the issues. I played a game called."Finger Dance Revolution"(basically a touch screen DDR). When playing with the lag fix enabled, the audio would finish, and I'd still have like 45 seconds worth of steps still coming. After disabling the OCLF, I played the same song. It kept in time and finished correctly. I made no changes to any other settings.

With looking into IMO

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant Overclocked to 1.6GHz. Please excuse my Swype.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Ditto! With sausage and jalapenos!
[Vibrant Android Development] demo23019:
here,

....
[Vibrant Android Development] cashyftw:
Gross!!! Pepperoni all the way!
[Vibrant Android Development] iTylerA:
I so had pizza for lunch. 4 meats!

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant Overclocked to 1.6GHz. Please excuse my Swype.
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
To each his own, sir. :p
[Vibrant Android Development] kuhan:
I like your "please excuse my Swype" at the end. I personally would've gone with "Pardon my Swype" (You can use that if you like :D)
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
I think I'm going for some chicagos original one of the greatest things about living in the chi the pizza

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] iTylerA:
Sure I can use it? You not gonna go copyright it on me are you? ©

I chose that because at times, I have a tendency to say off the wall things, so my disclaimer is, "please excuse my mouth". This is just the text equivalent.

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant Overclocked to 1.6GHz. Please excuse my Swype.
[Vibrant Android Development] kuhan:
lol well, I was doing a play on "Pardon my French" which, as I'm sure you know, is often said after uttering a naughty word ;

)
[Vibrant Android Development] iTylerA:
Which is a waste because all my favorite naughty words are in English :-D

Back to some form of topic, any results on the disabled lag fix?

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant Overclocked to 1.6GHz. Please excuse my Swype.
[Vibrant Android Development] ColbyRyptos:
please excuse my dear aunt sally ???
[Vibrant Android Development] zombioptic:
Speaking if "topic," though this thread is sort of in limbo, what a testament to the whiskey team for having such lack of topics due to lack of problems with their roms!
[Vibrant Android Development] kuhan:
Except they had to pull the download due to problem :p lol
[Vibrant Android Development] 499:
No wonder these threads grow to 10,000+... So much off topic b/s. Why bog down a developers thread with it? They put this stuff out to get feedback for R & D, etc. Ok now let the flaming of noob get started. Whats new.. Shame, shame, shame..

Sorry to add to the nonsense whiskey crew. I guess you can tell the whiskey drinkers from the juice boys. :D
[Vibrant Android Development] willsnews:
It was still an awesome download though it must be great when even if you post something super early you get outstanding feedback and the product is not even ready yet lol

Anonymous
[Vibrant Android Development] iTylerA:
May have been pulled prematurely if it turns out OCLF is the culprit or plays a major part

Sent from my Samsung Vibrant Overclocked to 1.6GHz. Please excuse my Swype.
[Vibrant Android Development] Reyland:
Was running good but freezes sometimes, bat pull to resolve!