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[Fascinate General] AlgorithmX:
I'm using Clockr, clean, simple and bare minimum.

http://www.appbrain.com/app/clockr/com.zehro.android.clockr

Sent via 1.2 Voodoo Fascinate using XDA App
[Fascinate General] garywojdan81:
Thanks for the input. I checked out clockr & digital clock widget by red wizard but I really liked the typoclock look. Has anyone else tried it or had any problem with it?
[Fascinate General] NKT:
I like the Sense UI type clock so I'm using Fancy Widgets. You just have to get one of the older rev's since HTC complained and the developer changed the current version.
[Fascinate General] ivorycruncher:
I like Beautiful Widgets for my clock widget. And in case anyone cares, I'm running Alarm Clock Plus V2 in place of the stock alarm clock. I really liked the features of the alarm clock on the Fascinate, but I discovered that it was simply too unreliable. The alarms would maybe go off one day, and not the next, for no reason that I could see. The third party one has worked without fail, and has some interesting features of its own.
[Fascinate General] goldenstorm:
Working perfectly for me and is one of my "new" all time favs! although I like clockr as well and I find beautiful widgets to be beautiful, it is a bit heavy on the resources at the moment in conjunction with launcher pro, at least in my phone.
[Fascinate General] ppazz1101:
Beautiful Widgets + skin. Done.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwkpete:
Ok, I can't put my finger on to the reason my phone is getting hot - no other temp threads I could find covered it.

It's 6 months old and it just started happening.

Build: FRG83 v 2.2.1

Power off, place in cradle - charges fine - stays cool.

Applied power (while in cradle) - stayed cool - battery was 100% already - woke up this morning after 6 hours and it was hot.

Pulled battery out, let sit until cool. Put in and powered - now is running cool.

Yesterday I picked it up and for no reason (that I could tell), it was hot and chewing through the battery.

Uninstalled all recently installed apps (don't have much on it right now)

I don't use exchange for mail (just gmail).

Has anyone else seen this odd behavior. There has to be some rhyme or reason to this. I'll keep uninstalling apps, but I'm not seeing anything running that is unusual...

Thx for any help

-P
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bennettm89:
Contacting HTC for a new device wouldn't be a terrible idea, since it seems that everything is darn near stock and not your fault.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwkpete:
I did think of that, but am having trouble believing that it is a hardware problem...

Kinda my fall back plan...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
Did you try to run something like SystemPanel and see if there's any app that has your Nexus running at 100% speed all the time?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwkpete:
Ahh, nice app - never saw that...

I'll monitor it now - it started getting hot again then it cooled off. Said it was 32C - but nothing out of the ordinary was running... (Except amazon mp3 - not sure why it is out there, I wish I could make that go away)...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
You can't make Amazon stop, you have to uninstall it (which is possible if you're rooted).

See what the frequency is - if it's idling around 300 MHz, you're ok.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwkpete:
Yeah, I know about the amazon thing...

Weird - started talking on the phone and it got hot (and sucked serious power) - ended call and now it's cool again.

Every time I go and look at CPU use it's low (starts high as I switch task but then drops to almost nothing which I would expect)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuff:
It might be a crappy battery.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwkpete:
I'm trying to figure out why the CPU would get hot if the battery is bad... Temp is definitely coming from the case below the battery in the trackball area...

I have a lot of experience with LiPo's - usually takes much higher A rates to get them to heat up - we aren't even draining them at .5C.

Now, this battery did come from the wife's N1 - but this problem did not coincide with the swap...
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaytsus:
Only time I feel the area around the trackball heating up (the CPU) is when I'm doing something intensive, and not that often. Did System Panel show anything was using CPU? You could also watch top in a term or via adb, and watch for network traffic.

You have a rogue app or bad hardware. Have you tried doing a factory reset and seeing if it also happens? Are you using a stock ROM? You mention the ROM in the OP but there are a lot of custom ROMs that are of that build.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwkpete:
This is a stock 2.2.1 on unmodified hardware.

I swapped batteries back and still get the same thing.

I was obviously thinking rogue app, but I don't see anything running that is 'bad'... Also it is hard to tell from the aforementioned app what the CPU is really doing when it's going crazy, as the CPU spikes when switching to the app and then settles back down to 200-300 MHz...

The other weird thing is that it seems to get really warm when charging off the PC now (didn't look close at system details at that point - was the other day)... Not even having the SD card mounted...

Will see what top shows next time I have it plugged in.

No, didn't do a factory reset yet. Was hoping to find the culprit first, but it's not looking good...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Kalavere:
Android seems to boot from ROM before the SD card, once the OS is up and running then it starts to mount the SD card, so any widgets you have installed on homescreens while residing on the SD card won't load when first booting. You need to keep all of your widgets on the phones internal memory to stop this problem recurring. If you are having memory shortages you might want to consider using ROM Manager, partitioning your SD card and using an A2SD (App to SD Card) ROM that will install apps to the SD card instead of internal memory.

I use Gallery in conjunction with Launcher Pro to display my custom dock icons it works just fine. It sounds to me like you're not making one of the layers transparent before saving it as a PNG.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Quantumstate:
Ya, it -only- boots from the 'ROM' (firmware). Need to keep thos apps that have widgets and daemons installed on the phone, or else they won't work. This is what I'm saying. Am using A2SD as it's built-in to CM6, so must move those apps with widgets and daemons back to the phone. None of this addresses why the system can't load a widget from the SD after boot, nor whether there's a way to tell the kernel about SD widgets.

Examining the images in Linux viewers shows the transparency. (checkerboard background) Viewing it in Gallery does not. gif and png both support transparent background, but it appears to me that Gallery does not.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] KCRic:
I suggest you break down the Mms.apk and look in there. It does have dependencies, they're written into a file inside the apk telling it where to send the message and where to check for messages. It also contains the user agent information. If you could some how pack that into chomp or another mms/sms app then you might be able to delete the stock app and push/install your choice messaging app to the system.

You no longer get messages (I assume) because when you're sent an sms/mms it sits on your carriers server while it sends a message to your phone (you don't see it) telling it that there's a message waiting to be retrieved. It's expecting a certain response about the phones state and type. If the format is incorrect or it doesn't get a response then the message just sits on the server. To send a message I believe it just uses apn settings to contact the server with 'wait for message' then the server responds 'ready' the phone sends it and all is well. It doesn't request the phones state and type and therefor the lack of a UA has no effect. Of course that's my understanding of how it works but I could be a little off here or there:D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Quantumstate:
Thanks KCRic. I did a factory reset and installed CM6.1-RC1, and now I'm getting texts. I find that this has happened to others too. I expected to get an avalanche of texts when I factory reset, but nothing. At least I'm receiving them now.

I'm surprised to read that files are actually modified on-the-fly inside apk's. This would explain alot of things. Is there a way to manually modify those files using some sort of apk tool?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aiewolf:
If you are using adw you can set up groups in the app drawer. Not quite the same as folders but pretty useful

Have you tried my backuppro for backing up your contacts and apps. There is a free version that will work for 30days. I personally never restore anything with TB, as it causes me no end of headaches. I use my backup pro to backup my personal data, ( contacts, sms, mms, dictionary, calendar etc ) I use applist to save a txt file with a list of apps i have installed. Then just reinstall the apps via market or diect push. This is just my personal o

I do this on a fairly regular basis ( trying different roms ) and can do it about 15mins
[Touch HD General] hobs0n:
My dear old Touch HD just fubared on me, or to be more precise, the button that controlls the power on/off and screen on/off is messy and is kind of pressed at all times which makes the mobile useless :/

So I wonder if anyone wants it or atleast the two batteries I have for it? One of the batteries is a Momax 1500mAh (which seems worse than the standard batteri Im afraid)

If so lemme know :)
[Touch HD General] retsam88:
Post the price for parts i guess.
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
Just a query, have you tried to pull the power on/off button back using tweezers?
[Touch HD General] _Remmy_:
I'm from the UK (if that matters.. No idea)

I'll take the batteries, and any spare screen protectors or cases you have. Just bought an HD, and lookin' to pimp it.

If you have one of those desk chargers for batteries, that'd be cool too.
[Touch HD General] hobs0n:
Not tweezer exactly but with similar tools and I have the power button all free with only the electronic part showing and it still buggy.

I have an unopened Invisible Shield package if you want.

For all of you, I dont want any money for it, just pay the transfer costs and Im fine :)
[Touch HD General] randolph2000:
i have a broken Touch HD i think my board is broken (or bricked).. everything is working fine.. it lived to 1 month then it broke.. :/
[Touch HD General] Tobbi:
I could use the cover as mine fell down and is very scratched.
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
If you are going to sell parts of this you'll have to abide by forum rules and use Market Place
[Touch HD General] nicotin:
Hi, you can help me! i would need the screen panel and the motherboard part where is the SIM...you can really send to me? :o
[General Topics] yonith:
So it's pretty much agreed upon that the announcement from Samsung on Nov 8th is just going to be the Continuum. I don't imagine that top screen is going to be 4in like the Fascinate. I'm thinking about just going out today and getting the Fascinate since I just became eligible to upgrade. I'm coming over from a boring feature phone, so I'm extremely eager to finally get a smartphone. Besides the new Droid Pro, it sounds like the only other phone that's going to come out on Verizon for the holiday season is the Merge. I don't want a keyboard so neither of those interest me. Is it a bad idea to upgrade today?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vdibran:
im new user in this forum and i have htc p3600 with windows mobile 6.1 i want to upgrading in windows mobile 6.5 who want tell me how to download wm 6.5 and install to the htc p3600 tell me pls
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orb3000:
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[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Benjamin Dobell:
I just thought I'd start this thread to ask other developers about their opinion on the matter.

I spent many hours across several weeks reverse engineering the Samsung Galaxy S flashing protocol and then programming, testing and distributing Heimdall as open-source software.

Based on bandwidth consumption Heimdall has been downloaded anywhere between 2000 and 8000 times (depending on whether the source or binaries were downloaded). I have received no more than eight donations, a very sincere thank-you goes out to those eight people! Let's assume that 25% of the total number of downloads were repeat downloaders, so we have somewhere between 1500 and 6000 unique users. So only 0.134-0.534% of users actually donate. Those sorts of donation rates are barely able to cover the cost of bandwidth, if at all.

I know there are a lot of people out there who consider themselves avid supporters of open-source and open-source software. I wouldn't necessarily call myself one of those people, however I do believe there is definitely a time and a place for open-source software, Heimdall being a perfect example.

I also know a lot of people who distribute ROMs, apps, tools, mods etc. are hobbyists who do what they do in their spare time, and the community should be very thankful of that. As for myself, I work as a independent software/games developer, not particularly the most monetarily rewarding profession around.

As much as we do enjoy releasing free software for the community, it is difficult for developers such as myself to justify the work involved when there is little to no return, after all the bills need to be paid somehow.

My question is this, is it possible for developers releasing open-source software directly to the community, not large corporations, to make a living off their work? Furthermore, how do we encourage community members to give back to developers who have donated their time to the community?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] MiG-:
Can't you use Google Code instead for hosting? or SourceForge? all provide free bandwidth IIRC.

Don't expect any donations as a rule, if you are expecting profit then either use ads on your website or charge.

I would have thought the primary reason for developing OSS on your phone is to improve the product you originally bought.

Cheers,

MiG
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] RyanZA:
If you want free hosting, I can hook you up at http://www.sgscompilebox.dreamhosters.com/ that I'm paying for anyway for z4mod. Unlimited bandwidth/space. Offer goes out to anybody who wants to host anything for the SGS. :)

EDIT: Oh, and to answer your question: No, I don't believe it's possible to make a living off making 3rd party open source tools that only a fraction(technical users) of a device's users will use. If you want to make a living off open source, the best bet is through a company such as Canonical, or by creating applications focused at casual users with as much potential marketshare as possible. Or do what most people do: get a regular 'closed' job, and do open source stuff as a hobby. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Benjamin Dobell:
I don't think you fully understand what I'm trying to discuss. The bandwidth costs are fairly negligible, especially if I'm approximately able to cover the costs with just eight donations. A developers time however is substantially more expensive, and in some ways the effort and intention is priceless

I'm not expecting profit as such, nor do I particularly wish this discussion to center around myself (I'm just using my statistics as an example). I'm just curious to know whether people think it is possible to be a "sustainable" open-source developer who contributes software directly to a community? As opposed to large open-source products targeted towards large corporations who pay technical support contracts.

I'm also not a big fan off stuffing ads down the throat of my user-base. Also, in this particular context I seriously doubt that sort of approach would work, especially if third-party free hosting (sourceforge, github etc.) is used.

Not necessarily. In my particular case I've simply released a tool to further enable the community to do something that other users (myself included) could already do, in some capacity or another.

For most developers releasing open-source software isn't so much about improving something they own. It's more about providing something for a community to use and benefit from without constraints. It's not unreasonable to ask the community to support you in return. After all there is nothing that forces developers to ever release the software they develop, unless you've used GPL code which is another matter entirely.

MiG-, based on your answer I'm assuming you're saying, no you do not think it's possible, which is definitely a perfectly valid answer to questions I've asked. Although I would definitely love to hear what more community members, particularly developers, have to say about the topic.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DocRambone:
Bit of topic.. you can host roms?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] RyanZA:
Until someone stops me, sure. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Benjamin Dobell:
I agree with pretty much everything except the part about targeting casual users in order to make money. In my experience technically inclined users, who have an appreciation for a piece of software, are substantially more likely to donate that casual users who lack the knowledge of the work involved. Of course selling software is something that can be more easily achieved when targeting a casual user base, especially if they know nothing of piracy. However it is generally not possible to sell "open-source" software directly.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] RyanZA:
Of course it is. :D Why do you think all of these app stores and market place etc is all catching on? You're never going to get rich off it, but putting up a popular open source application with an advert (and the option to turn it off even) should be able to bring in a pretty good revenue! Social networking seems to do the best for these types of apps.

Also, you'd probably want to diversify if relying on ad money - one banner ad in 25 open source apps, with 100K users each could easily reach a lot of money. ;) And it should be possible to crank out a simple, well made open source app that serves a definite purpose in under 3 months. So with some time investment, in a couple years you'd be able to live off it. No different from closed sourced apps when you you use advertising. :)

Most important thing though is to make something that

1) the average user understands what it does

2) does the job as simply as possible

3) actually helps the user

4) has as wide a potential market as possible

You could look at firefox as the ultimate in this type of thing.

This is all a lot of work though, I'm sure, and if you're after money, a regular desk job is almost guaranteed to work out better. ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Benjamin Dobell:
Agreed, I mostly meant that it's difficult to "sell" open-source software. If your software is truly open-source then users are likely to download it, compile it and then redistribute it for free, which is sort of reasonable given that it's meant to be open source.

However advertising in a free application is slightly different than selling an application and it does have a lot more potential to succeed. However depending on what you mean by "putting up a popular open source application" I might have moral issues with that. Unless the popular application is your own or you've substantially modified (added a UI etc) to an existing piece of open-source software. Although a lot less likely to happen if your app is free, if it is open-source there is still the chance someone else will distribute it for free, unless of course the non-code assets aren't open.

I definitely do believe that at the moment it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to live off the type of open-source software I initially described. It's a bit saddening though to realise how massively one falls short, hopefully this will change in the future.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] frauhottelmann:
About those donations. If I would use it, I would probably donate.

I worked my a** of for the community, providing ROMs and kitchens for 3 years for the HTC S710 and S740 and I got about 4 or 5 donations over that period of time. Sometimes it get's very frustrating, but hang in there, it's worth it after all (there would be no WM 6.5 on the Vox or the Rose without me (dare I say that ;)), but I wanted it anyway, so I made it and just released it for others as well)!

PS: SAP r3 is open source and it sells veeeeeery good ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
I think the community can recognize such invaluable work & devote a part of their donations to them, if they are using his software & really think its worth.

I think however small percentage it could be, it would make the developer feel wanted & make him continue devoting his valuable time.

I just read an article either today or yesterday regarding a conference of software developers for android community, & when one developer went to the podium & said he is earning a steady $1-$2 per day, people actually laughed. He retorted, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD. Android hasn't penetrated the markets YET like iPhone. So awareness & earnings are still low.

BTW, a nice GUI would change everything.

Just my 2 cents worth.

PS : In continuation to RyanZA's talk, I would like to mention that if you think you have something worth using, MAKE A LOT of noise about it. THAT's how people notice, use & donate. No one can understand a software's worth until you tell them. Like some WWii prime minister said, if you want the world to understand what you are telling, tell it like you are telling a donkey.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ragin:
Ben, I think you need to differentiate between recognition, fame & money. Ideas are many have you tried http://www.ideaken.com/ ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sztupy:
Most companies "built on open-source" provide binaries, and real support for those binaries, and earn a living from that. In an enterprise environment giving support can earn a lot of money (mainly because a lot of companies have policies to only use software/hardware that has decent support). On my last job we had to use a really crappy software, just because the (really) good alternative didn't had a support center in our country.

For the casual users: the marketplaces + ads are a good place to start. If you manage to create something that casual users will use, then it might pay of. Those users don't actaully care about the software being FOSS or not. Actually there aren't many people who care how free an application really is (except for most people working in IT or similar)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] EarlZ:
If bandwidth is an issue then host it over megaupload and such, problem solved.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sztupy:
And give users the ability to think they are actually a power user. Most people here at xda can't write even simple scripts, but they do want to try out new and experimental stuff. (on the other hand there are a lot of users who want things that just work, for them give a simple gui saying: "DO DA STUFF")
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] sztupy:
I hate when people upload source code to megaupload. There's github, code.google.com and sf.net. sf.net is although quite old now, the other too are still great when it comes to hosting FOSS stuff.

Github is even nicer since they've added a big "Download" button for the end users.