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[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
First let me set this straight for you, I think you may be confused with what a service is. All of these clocks you have mentioned use a service. Yes, that is right, they all do. If you would like to read back a few pages in this thread, the developer of Tajm has actually posted in this thread about his application using a service too. I would like to point out that using a service is not a bad thing so long as the application that started the service is not causing excessive load on the cpu.

What you might actually be referring to is how I have implemented my service. If you haven't read the FAQ in post #2, I suggest you have a look at it and also the link to changes in service api's. I'm far too tired to explain in detail right now (its 3am here and i've been staring at code for probably 12 hours today). The main difference with my application is that is uses a strict method to keep the service going and as a result, this method requires a notification to be displayed.

As I have said many times before in this thread, if I can figure out a solution to remove the notification and still be able to ensure that the clock will continue to update itself until, then I will, but for now this way works very effectively.

Again, they actually do all use services. Most of them have source code available on google code or their own websites if you want to check. Personally I would rather have the notification displayed than to have to respond to countless emails from people complaining that their clock keeps going out of sync.

You probably don't understand how much work is involved in supporting this app. I respond to about 100 emails per day and I generally try to help out as much as I can, but it is repeated questions like yours (that I have answered numerous times in the last few pages and the FAQ) that take up a lot of valuable time that I could be using to work on a solution.

Sorry I can't help you any further with this matter at the moment, but I will work on a solution, it just isn't as high on my priorities as some of the other necessary things.
[Android Apps and Games] |flyte|:
Love that you added the date in last nights update! Thanks!

I would suggest to keep clockr light weight and not add things like the weather. The tap to launch an app should be sufficient for most
[Android Apps and Games] zappatilias:
Yes, my first approach didn't include the use of a service, only a reciever, but it would constantly die off. So now it uses a Service that holds a BroadcastReceiver (that deals with the various intent-filters) and also in the widgets' onUpdate (which is set to the lowest updateInterval possible, 30 mins) a startService is called (just to try and keep the service running as much as possible).

One approach I guess would involve setting an alarm with the AlarmManager (http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/AlarmManager.html) for less than every 30 mins (maybe configurable in the settings?) that starts the service? Dunno how that would impact the battery though.
[Android Apps and Games] kevin@TeslaCoil:
The service with notification icon issue comes up for me with WidgetLocker a lot too. I haven't had time to investigate it but one idea that was given to me by another developer (Ricket) is to call startService in the onStop of the service. Seems kind of nasty but just might work.
[Android Apps and Games] elracing21:
Nvm I didn't notice I couldn't turn the date off

He does answer all emails from the support email in the market. He's answered all of my emails there.

Posted on my T-mobile G(spot)2 xD

Please check out my amazing blog- http://elgamerlife.blogspot.com/
[Android Apps and Games] spambayes:
Date? There is a date?!! Where?
[Android Apps and Games] |flyte|:
Do why can't you turn off the date option in the settings?
[Android Apps and Games] Wwebmonster:
Can you add a Languages like Hebrew?

I can translate PM ME
[Android Apps and Games] MillyMoo106:
Absoloutely love it
[Android Apps and Games] elracing21:
Its in the donate version

Posted on my T-mobile G(spot)2 xD

Please check out my amazing blog- http://elgamerlife.blogspot.com/
[Android Apps and Games] guerom00:
Love it.

I use 24h and I would suggest to use :

TwentyThreeFiftyNine, Midnight, ZeroOhOne, ZeroOhTwo, … , ZeroFiftyNine

Makes sense I think… No ?
[Android Apps and Games] BottledHate:
if you use more than one widget the settings are the same for all....

-is it possible to have separate settings for each instance of the widget?

date display options?

-date only (also applies to the separate settings for each instance)

-date display mode (currently d/#/m. d/m/# would be nice too!)

-date CAPS for the middle word to match the time part

choose alpha % for the background?

separate color settings for the clock and date

separate color settings for each word

i have the donate and will gladly donate again if some of these are implemented... just suggestions.

great app!!!
[Android Apps and Games] ilanad:
@zhero

LOOKS WONDERFUL, just snagged the donate version.. but a possible point

shouldn't

sunsevennov

be

sunSEVENnov

??
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Something like this is what I was planning to test when I get some time.

That isn't a very good practice, but I think I might need to look into adding something like this as an alternative for those who have a problem with the Notification.

I'm finding it particularly hard to avoid Code Pollution, but I don't think this is possible for a Clock widget that needs to continuously update.

Thanks both of you for your suggestions.

Don't worry, I'll add the selectable options to the date, I just wanted to get the date option it out there. Also, was thinking of the option to display SEVEN as SEVENTH instead. The way I would say the date is "Sunday, the seventh of November.
[Android Apps and Games] Anistrophic:
This is easily my favorite widget, I would have been happy to pay more for it. The only addition I would like to see added in the future is the ability to change the color of the background. Thanks again!
[Android Apps and Games] reprod:
Zehro... once again I have to say great work here. No complaints here. I know you will work out the links and make this app greater than it already is. You've already been extremely great supporting it to this point.

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[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Published an update to the regular Clockr app:

- Cleaned up code

- Improved performance

- Reduced file size (by 25%)

- Added App2SD support (some people wanted this, but I provide it only as an experimental feature and I wouldn't suggest using it for a Home screen widget).

I think thats about it, there were other minor tweaks, but that's the main changes.

EDIT; one other thing, there were changes to how it handles the "font size" preference, so if you are upgrading from a previous version, you might find that your clock font is tiny until you set a new font size in the options menu. If you have uninstalled your old version first or you are first time user, you will not experience this.
[Android Apps and Games] S_Dot:
There's a date widget? Where? Thanks Zehro.. whats different in the donate version?
[Android Apps and Games] yayramen:
The donate version comes with the date. lols.
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I started the "donate" version because people were wanting to donate to me to continue the development of Clockr. I could have, like most people, setup a paypal account, but I decided a better solution was to release a paid "donate" application. This provided a way for me to give them something a little bit extra back and to say thank you for their support.

At the moment, I am working on a date option for the donate version only. It is currently very basic, but I will be fixing it soon so that it has its own options (like the options available for the time).

Anyway, the free version still has all the same features that the donate version does (besides the date). I am proud of how Clockr has evolved (I think it works great on my phone) and I will continue to support it 100%.

I still need to work on a few things, like "Tap to open.." and work on another alternative to having the Notification that worries so many people, but I think overall, Clockr has progressed quite well.

Once I am finally happy with how Clockr is working, I might consider releasing some other application in a similar style, but for now, the date is only limited to the version for donors.
[Android Apps and Games] funkpod:
HEY, just wanna say that I'm a BIG fan. thanks for all your hard work. widgets are a big reason when I LOVE android os.
[Android Apps and Games] emelie:
that might result in more suppot requests over here as most user just shouting for "APPS2SD PLOX!!11" are not going to understand how this works:

http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/install-location.html#ShouldNot

EDIT: bought your app for support & encouragement - i like your work!
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Ok, I've just removed it. Guess it could have been funny, but I'm glad you posted that link. I knew it sounded like a bad idea, just didn't realise that most parts of my app don't work with App2SD. I think I should have researched it first. (I am still only new to android dev, so I'm glad people call me out on stuff like this)
[Android Apps and Games] mplaines:
Is it possible that you can change the time to read O'oneHundred as opposed to OneHundred. Thanx

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[Android Apps and Games] th3taman:
zehro,

Thanks for your response yesterday. I hope I didn't come across as a jerk, wasn't my intention.

I do love your app and the continued support of it! And I really appreciate the insight (info) into the fact that other clock widgets use services (just not a notification ticker). I was not aware of this. I have purchased (donated) because you have taken the time to respond to me and I hope it encourages continued support/development! Keep up the good work!

FYI...I noticed the developer of Text 'o' Clock widget has a donation version that includes the text "clockr". Wow, dude really wants to not only rip off your work but try and take some $ too?
[Android Apps and Games] emelie:
really glad i could point you to this!

this issue is really huge in marke comments - every other commenter is about requesting app2sd.

just read this market comment, illustrating the situation beautifully: "just 1 star, 5 stars if u add widget & apps2sd"

i guess developers need to know about it so they don't listen to this kind of feedback - it would only make things worse for their users!

maybe it would be even better if google could educate users about that - maybe via the market and some kind of widget-/service-flag which notifies users that "app2sd not possible because...." or something like that...

anyways i appreciate your attitude towards feedback and i like what you are doing ;)

keep on keepin' on!
[Android Apps and Games] th3taman:
Why do people want apps2sd on such a small application (size-wise). It only takes up 60k when installed. Not big by any means.
[Android Apps and Games] spambayes:
Can someone kindly post a screenshot of how the date looks in the donate version? Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] emelie:
from a technical standpoint you are correct.

users count in a slightly different way though and this has nothing to do with actual file size:

one storage unit = one square (=one app) in the app drawer / one item in the widget selector

EDIT: sorry for being offtopic - </ramble>
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Interesting, I might have to look at my alignment, I haven't seen it look like this on any devices I have testing, thanks for posting this.

I've got a "Tap to Open..." feature working in Clockr, just need get it working in Clockr Evolution and test it on my N1 to make sure it works and then I will update both apps on the market.
[Android Apps and Games] w.0.o.t:
still doesn't justify the use of a2sd though. by using a2sd it won't make it disappear from the drawer either.

lol didn't really notice bout the alignment until you said it. :p

looking forward to the update. :)
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I'm sorry bout that, I think it was me that came off a little abrupt. I think I should try to avoid the thread so late at night. =P

I'm closer to my goal of completing my main list of features now and I've been glancing at some ideas for a second (alternative) option for those people that would prefer a clock that stays updated, but doesn't use the notification. I will still keep the notification option in the menu because I can assure that it will stay updated with this option.

Not much I can do about this really and I never set out to make money from this app anyway. At least one good thing came out of his release, it motivated me to get my fully working version released (benefit for you guys at least!).
[Android Apps and Games] reprod:
zehro... I'm sure your alignment is fine. The difference in alignment is due to the users font. If this same line was written in MSWord with the bolding and font choice the same then the alignment will be the same. There is no flaw, just a different font choice.
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
So it has something to do with different devices have a different font? And I guess these fonts don't work well with - android:singleLine="true" - ?

I'd still like to check if there is a solution, but that doesn't sound promising.

I would have uploaded already, but I managed to cause a bug accidentally and have spent the last 15 mins figuring out which line of code caused it. I've found it now and just doing the last minute tests before I upload.
[Android Apps and Games] w.0.o.t:
but they're of the same font.. if the alignment is correct, i assume they'd be just straight?

anyway for a temporary fix maybe make the date in uppercase letter so it looks a bit balanced. just a suggestion. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] wowthatisrandom:
Just got the donate version. Loving it so Far with the date feature is there a way you can capitalize the middle word like you do on the clock so its easier to make out when you glance at it right away? (ie monEIGHTnov)

other than that looks great! looking forward to see what else your coming up with.
[Android Apps and Games] reprod:
I'm using the Decker font and my alignment is PERFECT!!! :D But it could be that certain fonts dont play well with it...
[Android Apps and Games] w.0.o.t:
mind sharing it? ;)

EDIT: don't worry bout it. found by googling. :D
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
Clockr and Clockr Evolution UPDATED!

I've just updated both versions of Clockr. They both have the new "Tap To Open.." feature.

Enjoy!

You will be happy to know that I have just added an option to select which way you want the middle word in the date displayed (lowercase or uppercase). Its in the latest update on the market.

That looks awesome!
[Android Apps and Games] w.0.o.t:
Thank you mate. :D Loving the update. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I'm glad to hear. ^_^

Time to get some sleep I think, another working day tomorrow. If you find any bugs or have any problems with the update, let me know.
[Android Apps and Games] w.0.o.t:
Will do. Have your well deserved rest mate. :D
[Android Apps and Games] wowthatisrandom:
Looks awesome!! get some sleep, well deserved.

what if you let the icon in the app screen continue to be the settings menu and allow the widget to open whatever app we choose. thats how beautiful widgets work.
[Android Apps and Games] reprod:
Decker is truly an awesome font... Glad you are liking it. Your setup is truly awesome.
[Android Apps and Games] scrizz:
loving the widget!
[Android Apps and Games] Sozin:
Great app, loving it. Can't wait for customization though.
[Android Apps and Games] roseventyfour:
great job, it's an awesome widget. thanks a lot. where can i get those cool wallpapers to go with it?
[Android Apps and Games] yayramen:
Wallpapers, find them on deviantart!

And why would you want to install the mod as a separate widget?

Do you want four instances of the same widget running?
[Android Apps and Games] roseventyfour:
thanks lots of good pics there
[Android Apps and Games] karipay:
I love the look of the phone.

I like the ^ button at the bottom center!

Care to share how to make my phone look like this?
[Android Apps and Games] yayramen:
That ^ button is a dock, with LauncherPro. Check the blog link in my signature,

I pretty much describe everything that I do personally there. There's a download

link where you can also download the docks and these mods.
[Android Apps and Games] Clovii:
Posting an "I LOVE THIS" here.

Thanks for your idea and contribution. Can't wait for the next feature update.
[Android Apps and Games] yayramen:
Newest SS, showing a better use of the 'white with black shadow' mod I made =P
[Android Apps and Games] elracing21:
Thanks for your work peeps these look great on my G2

Posted on my T-mobile G(spot)2 xD
[Android Apps and Games] rollercoastervj:
It should have customization, font settings, colors, alignments.. 2x1 size and more etc

thanks :)
[Android Apps and Games] Jeshter2000:
Really strange. . My phone is on automatic time and it says 8:27 hours and clockr says 8:22. How is this possible. I'm on SgS gt 9000. ...

Sent from my Intergalactic Supah Dupah Spaceship¡¡!!!
[Android Apps and Games] yayramen:
it's an early beta. He knows this, and is working on it.

That sometimes happens. Add a new instance of the clock, and then remove it. That always resyncs them for me.
[Android Apps and Games] Gahh Its Lee:
I love it but i tried using it with widget locker and it doesnt change the time... And when i select it it force closes
[Android Apps and Games] yayramen:
newest mod. Transparent letters, colored glows:
[Android Apps and Games] slassyi@ya.ru:
Great Job!!!

Awesome work!!!! Do you planning to add 24H format and more colors to it? It whould be nice!!!
[Android Apps and Games] crazy cat:
Realy cool! Multialng. + Coler-Selection and it is perfect!
[Android Apps and Games] StellaDel:
Love it, on my Desire HD now, one question how do I get the Translucent background? :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] gbmitchell:
Gorgeous work guys. I can't wait to see this thing with some more customization thrown in.
[Android Apps and Games] rbacchi:
looks great ;) matches good with darkyys mod for galaxy i9000!
[Android Apps and Games] Schenley:
Beautiful!

Here's another screen shot... I love my homescreen now.

Wallpaper from - Hollywooder

Icons are called Black Ink - forgot where I got them...

Beautiful Widgets for the weather.

Icons open Folder Organizer folders - I can get to any app from those six categories.

I wish I could align / center those things a little better on Launcher Pro...
[Android Apps and Games] w.0.o.t:
thank you! the font is just perfect. thanks for letting me know. :D
[Android Apps and Games] wowthatisrandom:
my setup

Beautiful widget 1x1 (current temp) - FlatWhite Theme

Beautiful widget 4x1 (forecast)

BattStatt

Simple Text Launcher Pro Icons
[Android Apps and Games] emelie:
you have to update your signature first thing tomorrow morning ;)
[Android Apps and Games] ViViDboarder:
Is there a way to put shadows on BattStatt to match Clockr? I couldn't find anything.
[Android Apps and Games] th3taman:
Different developer, you would need to contact that person and ask.
[Android Apps and Games] ViViDboarder:
I know. I just thought someone here would know since everyone here is using text widgets. :P

Also, it'd be a cool additional widget to bundle with the paid version of Clockr. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] zappatilias:
Not yet, but the next major update will have theming support and it will have the possibility to do shadow.
[Android Apps and Games] Nuntius:
Donation accomplished :)

On a french Desire, the date is like this:

I personnally don't like the dots and the mix french-english is not too sexy!
[Android Apps and Games] |flyte|:
Excellent work with that tap to open app feature !

Very pleased with this awesome purchase!
[Android Apps and Games] yayramen:
Hm. So locale isn't working. Gah. I'd do a french translation, but

that would just be a mod of a rather out dated widget =P
[Android Apps and Games] ilanad:
@zehro

Can the tap to open be set to go straight to the Alarm Clock panel? Beautiful Widgets does it and it's one thing I do use.

Outstanding update!
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I know i'll be looking forward to this. I think Clockr is starting to set a bar for what people expect in a widget (sorry about that), but I know that once your updated version of BattStatt comes out, everyone will be back here asking "why can't I have this... in your Clockr app". Haha.

At the moment, I don't want to put translations into the actual app. I have my reasons, including keeping the file size small. I'm not entirely sure how I want to implement translations, but I'm interested in investigating the possibility of having alternate translations as an extra downloadable add-on app. Then if you want to use a particular language, you install the main Clockr app and then download the add-on for the language you want.

Again, I'm not sure how to do this, or how it will impact the performance of the app, but I think this could be the best way to include the translations and keep the app small for those that don't require the extra languages.

Another thing, someone mentioned in the comments on the Android Market that Midnight just says "HUNDRED" in 24hr mode. I'm very much aware of this. It actually was saying "MIDNIGHT" the other day, but last night when I was trying to get Tap to open working, for some reason that section of the code decided to throw NumberFormatException's every time it tried to parse the value of the current hour as an Integer.

Don't ask me why it was doing this, but I decided to just remove the code and get the release out. I will have a fix for this tonight.

This won't actually work with one of the feature requests that I am adding tonight. Eventually it might, but it is a more advanced functionality that I'm not sure I want handle yet. The problem is, the requested feature allows each additional Clockr widget that you place on your Home screen(s) to have it's own settings that are independent of any other widget already placed on the screen. This allows each widget to have a totally different look. Trying to manage this from the launcher icon would be messy and counter-intuitive to the user.

For example, if there is more than one widget on their Home screen, the user would have to go to the launcher and this would have to show them settings for each individual widget. Now, how does the user know which exact widget it is that they are editing? You must remember that not every user is intelligent, and as you can probably see, this would cause a lot of headache from users complaining about not knowing how to edit their widget.

I hope this cleared it up.
[Android Apps and Games] zehro:
I'm not really sure why it doesn't list the Alarm Clock on some devices. It does list it on the AVD emulator on my computer, but on my nexus one, it is not available.

The list of items is populated automatically by the Operating System, so I don't have any control over what items it decides to list. /shrug

I've attached an image of the AVD showing that the Alarm Clock is there.
[Android Apps and Games] wowthatisrandom:
Thanks for clearing it up! looking forward to what you have coming tonight. totally understand with that.

i just know beautiful widgets works like that, but if you have more than one it changes them all to that so i could see why it wouldnt work :D

like i have a bw 1x1 that has todays weather, and a 4x1 that has 4 day forcast... but if i change the skin(using the app drawer icon) it changes both widgets at the same time. but if i click either widget i get a popup forcast that he assigned tothe click.

again thanks for taking the time to explain :D

also maybe reason for alarm clock might be something as stupid as it not being called alarm clock on all devices? i know HTC Sense calls it "desk clock"