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[EVO 4G Android Development] simongabriel:
Definitely think it's better as a flashable option rather than the default. If you end up making it the default folks are going to want a flashable option back to the default anyway. Come to think of it, either way you are probably going to have to make a flashable default black. lol. So I guess it doesn't matter.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
ill tell u what though... from what i noticed most people dont even look at the mods... they take the rom as is.

i really think what ever ill put up in the rom will stay the dominant one regardless of what it is.

the only way to really see is to make two complete rom versions... im pretty sure that will be the only way to really know what people like best.

i also know that cuz i used to have 3 different themes for my diamond roms.

i think some of the white widgets i made fit a lot better than the black... but some are kinda 50/50.

one thing is for sure.. no one have done this with sense yet.

i will eventually make the whole phone inverse, just to make it match up even more.

im happy that i could have figured it out... i also notice in the process how to kinda make htc widgets not depend on the htc resources... i just wish i had to full java bytecode knowledge to really make those widgets as stand-alone versions... i know a lot of people that use different launchers would love that.

so far i think the only person that can actually help me figure out how to make the htc widgets completely non depended on rosie is JchiSurf... but i know he's pretty busy with other things... so that wont happen any time soon.

with the white version, widgets should load faster though... cuz i basically took out most of the files that the widgets look for in the htc resources and put it inside the widget apk after changing the references... so the file is in the package instead of going out to look for it somewhere else.

i could be wrong thinking its faster... but it kinda makes sense to me that it would be.

btw... i am going to put in by default the 4x5 rosie layout (like the screen shots)... i just think its better and i already have all the remapping done for that version anyways.

hopefully next up would be android 2.3... unless something else would comeout sooner.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rde34:
You did the task and rosie in a transparent .zip for me last time. Could you offer it as a MOD for everyone this time? No big deal at all if you'd rather not. 3.2 has been running flawlessly and could just as well keep it running.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
what do u mean?
[EVO 4G Android Development] gspitman:
OK so I figured out the ACTUAL problem (yes there was one...)

When plugging in a USB the first time... it mounts the SD like it's set to Disk Drive mode. Even though it reports Charge Only.

To fix, switch to disk drive, then back to charge only
[EVO 4G Android Development] simongabriel:
Mik you should ask the dev for Launcher Pro, as he completely created his own widgets for that launcher. He might have some insight on trying to convert the HTC ones to be completely independent. Just a thought.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rde34:
Sorry, I should be more clear with my posts. After the last update, you created a flashable MOD for me to make the taskbar (top bar) and rosie transparent. I was wondering if you could do the same for your next release or will the .zip you made for me work on it as well? That make sense? Thanks in advance.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
i will probably need to make a new one... but only if u'd like to have the white widgets... if not... it should still work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
i can understand what u saying... but i also know that there are some many people who would dumb sense the minute that the htc widgets will work on other launchers...

i would suspect no one has done it yet simply because its is a lot harder than i think it is.

not to mention that its probably illegal (not that putting out custom roms is 100% legal, especially with certain "tweaks").
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
The magnifying glass button on the bottom of the phone brings up Google search. I'm refering to the Quick Lookup APK which allows you to type in a word and you have a choice for it to pull up a wikipedia article, definition or translation of that word. You can access this APK by highlighting a word in the browser and selecting the middle option (magnifying glass).

I would love to be able to use this app alone, without going through the browser. It's listed as one of the system APKs under system / app / Quick Lookup.apk. I'm wondering if there is a way to get it into the app drawer or as a widget on one of the home screens.

Sent from my EVO rockin' MikFroYo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
Some are much nicer white on black, like the calendar. But I prefer the HTC power control widgets the way they are now. I think the default should still be the way it is now.

Sent from my EVO rockin' MikFroYo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] rde34:
The white widgets would be awfully cool but not a deal breaker. If you think I can re-flash the previous .zip task/rosie transparency mod on your next release, that's perfectly fine too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] finsmaniac02:
I know someone has asked this before but... any chance we can get this theme as a standalone flashable zip? I don't mean any offense to Mik (and don't think he will take any since he says he doesn't know much about the actual builds, and he just uses calk builds) but I just want to put this theme over an AvalaunchRom build (Avav10 right now). I just think that Ava's builds are slicker. OR.... could I convince Mik to switch to building off of Ava instead of Calk!? lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] evolishesh:
I have a problem setting up my alarm. every time I hit the clock on the home screen it never takes me to the desktop clock. Any ideas of what i can do to get it working?( running on mik 3.2)
[EVO 4G Android Development] simongabriel:
Honestly, until 4G and HDMI (along with other things like proper facebook integration, etc) work, I don't think people are dumping sense in droves anytime soon. For all the beauty that certain parts of MIUI have, it's just still not really functional for a lot of things.

I sure wish the power control port worked just like it did in MIUI though. No knock on Js at all, the port is an incredible piece of work, it's just that having it at the bottom (without the weird visual glitch you have Mik) and having it slide back and forth is really brilliant. The complete overhaul on the menu system is nice too. If there was anything I'd wish for in your ROM it would be some of those 'extras' that are in MIUI, I think it would absolutely complete for me then. :D

I'm really hoping after Thanksgiving I can dig into it more, had to spend the whole weekend cleaning house instead of playing with the 'blue' theming, as the wife and I are having 13 people over for Turkey lol.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
no offense taken... i know different roms might work better on different phones for a variety of reasons.

i actually thought about switching my base to ava's or myn's rom... but i couldn't really find a solid reason to do it yet.

btw... even if i dont know much about the builds the way i look at each and every build could probably qualify me to know whats up with each one even a little more than the person who made it (i look at all the apk's and jar files decompiled to find certain tweaks made by all dev's while comparing them all).

btw... thats why a lot of people said before that my rom has basically all roms inside it, which is mostly true... i try to use all the different tweaks i find other dev's using... but if i can't find a tweak i can't use it.

now... although i have a little bit of time now i dont have time to really go and test different roms before i decide to "jump ship" so ill have to stick to what works for me for now.

i will make a stand-alone theme... i actually found out that my theme was taken into the HD2 forums without my knowledge of it and had a huge success (over 2500 d/l in a week).

the only thing that im sacred of is that since im using different files than most dev's (im on 2.2.1 and most are on 2.2) there could be issues.

i think ill go with a test version first... then open a thread... and u just became a tester... so ill pm a link with it later tonight.

3.2 comes with the htc animated flip clock... so by default it should take u to htc clock app... if u using fancy widget u would need to set it up so it goes to the clock.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
i wish most people knew how to add/remove apps from their phone without using a flashable zip.

that way i could just give u guys everything in a non flashable zip and u can pick and choose which one u want or not.

but i can't put out zips for each and every one separate... thats like 15-20 different zips. kinda too much if u ask me.

i still need to finish it cuz i left it alone yesterday after noon... but ill put it up as a zip until i make all the UI inverted.
[EVO 4G Android Development] simongabriel:
I think it's not so much in not knowing how, as in that it's just far easier to flash a zip. Like when I'm at work I can download all I want, but I can't install what's needed to push files to my phone. What I REALLY wish is that someone would develop some sort of install framework (and I think MIUI might've done this already, it's on my list to check out tonight) to be able to theme things without having to always sign/etc to push files on. Some sort of theming tool that could automate the sign/zip process to then install as a flash from the base file on the phone would be awesome, like if it could take the file you have, build the necessary update.zip type file "on the phone" and then boot into recovery and flash it to the phone.

You know more about the roms and that than I do at this point Mik, is something like that even possible? I would think it should be.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
metamorph... u can theme on the phone.

im not using it personally so i cant really explain how it works... but thats basically what u might wanna look at.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Psych0t1c20:
I have a problem. When I try and put riptides theme on this rom, it gets to the 2nd bootscreen, the phone will light up and go back to sleep and stays at the 2nd screen. Any solution?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
from obvious reasons i never really tried to flash a custom theme on my rom... so i can't be sure how to help u with it without fixing his theme to work with my rom.

i never really meant my rom to be themeable.

ill take a quick peek at it to see what files are being changed... please give me the link to the specific zip u tried cuz he has like 50 up there.

edit:

btw... it says u on an hd2... if that true im not sure how much i can help u out.. feel free to ask the dude that ported this to the hd2 though.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Psych0t1c20:
Naw it's an evo. Old sig I forgot to edit.

Edit: Here's the link: http://www.ciamosbase.com/up/Riptide9_ClearFroyoV9_signed.zip
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
ok... he's rosie sig's are f'd up from what i can tell.

give me like 10-20 and ill have a zip for u that should work.

edit:

try this zip... let me know if it worked.

removed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Psych0t1c20:
Cool, thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Psych0t1c20:
I'm getting force closes on the phone.apk
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
thats probably not te sig's... try running fix_permissions script from rom manager.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Psych0t1c20:
Didn't work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
ok... im looking in the phone.apk and i see why.

damn... i hate it when themers and dev's resign their packages.

give me again like 30-60 min... ill make sure to go over all of his apks and change the sig's to the htc ones instead of his.

then everything will work for sure.

sorry.. .ill pull down the link i gave u also.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Psych0t1c20:
Thanks man, much appreciated.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
ok... try this... he left out a few more packages with his sig's.... i basically changed the sigs to the original htc ones... the thing that surprises me is how come people change up sigs and then are surprised that their theme wont work on all roms...

if everyone would just keep the same original htc sigs on the apks all the themes would work on all roms (depending on the base build of course).

some might claim that they needed to resign... thats the biggest load of crap i heard.

the only things u need to keep from the original apks is the META-INF folder which has the original htc sig's and the manifest.xml file... other than that u can replace every little tiny thing in the apk and that includes adding and removing files as much as u want.

please note that the only package i didnt touch was the "QuickSearchBox.apk" cuz im not really sure what it is (quicksearch maybe?).

in my rom i dont have that package... so if thats giving u issues u can just remove it.

anyways... here is the link:

Riptide9_ClearFroyoV9_For_MikFroYo-signed.zip
[EVO 4G Android Development] Psych0t1c20:
Works great. Thanks. And thanks for telling me about the sigs and what to keep. I might wanna edit a thing or two in the future.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
sure man... no problem.

some people are kinda still stuck in aosp days where u could actually resign apks and it will work...

that doesnt always work that way with htc apps... so best to keep it with the original sigs to make sure nothing gets f'd up.

one thing make me wonder though... how come his theme does work on other roms... that a little strange unless everyone that uses his theme are running the same rom he does.

which will bring me to the next point... feel free to help anyone else that his theme didnt work for to this zip... now it should really be compatible with all roms.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
ok guys... seems like ill be putting out a stand-alone version of the theme soon... as soon as im done with my white widgets ill open a thread in the themes sections with both versions...

i know to all u guys that use my rom its not a big deal but i know a lot of people out there like the theme prefer other roms instead. (makes sense cuz not all roms are the same on each and every phone).

anyways... thats the plan for now... not gonna really update the rom yet... il will however make sure u guys will see the white widgets version sometime tomorrow.
[EVO 4G Android Development] INebilim:
Can we get some BLUE themes??
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
all in due time... i will have to look into it sometimes... but simon is working on something now... so im leaving that to him for now.

i will finish up the white widgets and then will plan on red highlight version... and after that... maybe completing a full white UI.
[EVO 4G Android Development] evolishesh:
Hey Mik.

I just install the Riptid 9, but does not work well with the 4x5 setting that I have. can you make me a zip for the 4x5.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
of course it wont work... he use a different Rosie and different widgets files..

i will have to say no to that though just cuz i dont want to decompile and reedit all of those widgets and Rosie with my changes... that would have to be a request u would make to the theme maker.

another thing u can try to do but might not work is to replace some files inside the apk... the 4x5 is basically done inside some xmls and the smali code...

so that means u would want to use the resources.arsc, classes.dex and all the xml files from my htc widgets and rosie... (the reason im saying all is cuz i dont want to have u look for the different ones, especially if u not decompiling it).
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
Mik, I posted earlier about the Quick Lookup APK. I was wondering, am I right that non system APKs are under /data/app? If yes, if I pulled the Quick Lookup APK from /system/app and pushed to /data/app would I then be able to use the Quick Lookup app as a standalone app?

P.S. is there a way to browse the system files through the computer, like via ADB or something?

Sent from my EVO rockin' MikFroYo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
no... wont work.

somehow there should be a way to do this... but i would think that it would be needed to add the option for it to be a shortcut... but i dont know how to do that.

the only person that i can think of that should know how to do such a thing would be Myn... just off the top of my head... i know other dev know how to that also... but i can't really put up a list of all the people i think know how to add that function into an apk.

also, keep in mind that im assuming it based on the fact that not all apk in the system have a shortcut in app drawer... so it just makes sense that it is possible to add that to an apk.

and yes u can brows the files from the computer using adb shell... but it would look like the old dos or linux terminal.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
What's interesting is that after using the Quick Lookup app through the browser, it then gets added to the list of the 8 recently used apps, and I'm able to go back to it just by holding down the home button and selecting it (its got a magnifying glass icon). So that's what made me think that it would be possible to add it to the app drawer, because its already got a shortcut and icon.

You're sure it won't work?

Sent from my EVO rockin' MikFroYo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] a senile fungus:
I believe it is called Android Commander.

~ I'm a fungi
[EVO 4G Android Development] billyapd21:
I love your rom! I'm having one problem though. I can't get flash videos to play on espn. I can get them to work on other sites but not espn. I'm coming from stock rom and fresh rom and espn worked on both of those roms. Any help would be great. Thanks for sweet rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Shauli20:
Someone earlier suggested it has to do with the ad blocker, since flash videos on ESPN begin with ads.

You can try uninstalling ad blocker, and also change the hosts file (which contains a list of ad servers to be blocked.). Mik posted instructions how to do this on page 58 in this thread.

Sent from my EVO rockin' MikFroYo!
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
apparently its the ad blocker app i have on the rom (well... not the app... the hosts file).

a uninstall adblocker and a couple of pages back i have the untouched hosts files for d/l with instruction of how to use it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] billyapd21:
Thanks guys for the quick reply. I uninstalled ad block and espn is working fine now. Other than that your rom looks really nice. I've only been on it a few hours but I love your theme. I'm still setting up some settings and apps. Another quick question. Can I use app2sd with your rom? I used that on fresh and liked it a lot. Thanks again for the fast response.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
it should work if u go here:

[Script][A2SD] Darktremor Apps2SD 2.7.5.2 (10/03/2010)

and follow the instructions.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
ok guys... good new and bad ones.

first the bad.

im gonna take a little more time with the white widgets.

the good ones.

after working with the widgets i decided to experiment a little with all the resources to see how everything will look in white... and its much much better.

so im gonna make everything white.

i still didnt decide whether or not ill change the contents to be white on black (in people, messages, dialer, etc.)... but i think ill keep that the same for now cuz it still looks good.

the way u can think of it for now is that basically everything that is black/shiny black would become either white or transparent.

i have to do it this way... i would just hate to leave it at the widgets cuz im too much of a perfectionist.

for anyone that remembers the gtx theme back from windows mobile manila days it would be something pretty similar to that only a little more of a sliver look to it.

ill post some screen shots a little later cuz its tons of work to redo all the packages like that... especially since its changing text colors in pretty much all the xml's.

i just hope that a new version of sense would not come out in the next week or two cuz than i would have really done it for no reason and will have to re-do it.

EDIT:

pm me if u feel like u wanna beta test and throw suggestions... i would prefer someone who is a heavy user and actually use pretty much all of the htc sense apps.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Circular Pastry:
Next Rom I flash!

Just wanted to say I LOVE the white widgets...

If only I wasn't such a launcherpro fan... do the widgets and I'll try to go back to sense

Imo the mockup calendar with white on the date part was amazing.

Bake in the statusbar control widgets and I'll dump the Rom I flashed 5min ago LOL

(left ava because I couldn't flash them right over his Rom)

tapatalked from my SUpersonic.
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
im working on it... but i did write above that im redoing everything in white and not just the widgets... so it would take a little longer... im also redoing icons to fit the white... which is like 200 of them... and its a lot cuz im making them have the look of popping out when not pushed and pushed in look when u actually push on them.

anyways... if u love ava u can stick with his rom... my theme version works on his rom (its been tested now but so far works goods).

ill be hopefully openin a thread for both themes by the weekend.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Circular Pastry:
Not love just something new, I'm back in the 2-3 day flashing cycle I was with the g1... and I said I wouldn't do that with this phone LOL, longest I've stuck with so far was 3-4wks with virus and abt a week with ultimate droid (but I hate the aosp camera) I'm gonna flash this now, let you know if I stick with it LOL

Thanks for the great work btw!

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Psych0t1c20:
Hey what radio would you recommend for this rom?
[EVO 4G Android Development] aamikam:
radio and rom?

not related man... different radios would only help or make it worst by your location.

i dont have any special tweaks for the radio... so its completely depended on your location.
[EVO 4G Android Development] frickinjerms:
wow just flashed and this rom is absolutely stunning!!! by far, the best i've seen and myns warm 2.2 was a hard one to trump :P great work 12 outta 10 my friend!
[EVO 4G Android Development] simongabriel:
I'd offer to test your white stuff, but the reality is I don't use the sense apps at all, I use launcher pro. I really like the sense widgets, but just not sense.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Circular Pastry:
I'm with simongabriel on the LP for sure but they're pretty enough I'd try to go back to sense. :-)

One issue w/rom though... why does editing my screen density in build properties give me bootloops for breakfast!? I've adjusted over several edits to actually preferring 160 so you can imagine how stock res seems to me... any ideas why it wasn't working, I've never had an issue editing this file :'(

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[EVO 4G Android Development] jlip5617:
hey Miko, i've noticed that a lot of people are runnin launcherpro. is there any way to theme launcherpro to go with your rom? I think it is so much better than sense. i still use sense roms because i really like the facbook integration plus their calendar, calculator, dialer, ect. but as far as the launcher and home screens; launcherpro has it beat hands down. i was just wondering if this was possible...thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jgittins:
This happens to all live wallpapers if you use move to SD function. If you leave it installed on the phone instead it will be able to start when the phone reboots.