yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z General] bigstunta101:
Excuse my language but Wtf type of sh*t is that? First they don't want you to tether, then they are gonna let u tether for another 5gb and that's it???? They can suck a fat one. Btw I've already been throttled and it aint that bad so I'm pretty sure this new idea of theirs is gonna blow back in their face. If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
Does this mean we will be getting some kind of OTA to enable tethering?
[G2 and Desire Z General] xyrcncp:
Well, they will have their version of the G2, but then what? You'll leave T-Mobile for the Red Devil? They charge for tethering too you know?

Geez, what's the big fuss about them charging for tethering. You'll still be able to tether your connection without paying for the plan, granted it will STILL be against the terms and conditions but there's nothing stopping you from doing so.

My brother tethers his Verizon BlackBerry and he doesn't have any sort of tethering plan. I'm on T-Mobile and I tethered my BBs (when I had them) and my G1 without any issues, now I didn't go out there and stream and download this and that and make it obvious that I was using a lot of data.

If you recall T-Mobile did say that CURRENTLY tethering was not available but they were LOOKING into it because customers are interested. "Looking into it" is just their way of saying "Yeah, we're gonna support tethering but we're figuring out what to charge for it".

Bottom line, you don't like it, leave T-Mobile if you think they're screwing you. Why stress yourself out by *****ing about it?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Chuckmoney:
I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.
[G2 and Desire Z General] JanetPanic:
That may be how it operates (I do not know) but that is not what the quoted article says. It says that tethering counts towards your 5GB cap.

i.e. if you have a 5GB cap now, you will have a 5GB cap when you add tethering. I assume if you have a 10GB cap now you would have a 10GB cap when tethering.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddgarcia05:
I don't think they care if you use tether or not. They probably hope you do. It's people who already tether that are mostly likely going to feel the hit. Every smartphone user pays for a data plan which is for 5gigs. What you do with those 5gigs is up to you ex. tether, torrents, xbox live, mp3 downloads, stream porn, its doesn't mater. After your 5gigs are up. Then what? Can hardcore tether users live off an Edge connection? No. Now people who have never tethered before and know nothing about root will think it's awesome. When in fact they could have been tethering long before. When you stop and see it from that angle, how many of these tmo customers who are going to get the tether package will ever hit the 5gig limit? I doubt may of them will. They probably wont even tap into their tethering plan and fall below the 5gig data plan softcap. Which means they've paid $14.99, for data they never even used.

This is assuming that tmo will see any form of data movement weather it be through tethering or receiving a MMS as data. This would tie into the whole tmo can suspect you of tethering because of a 6/8/20/100mb usage her and there. When normally I've never gone pass 500mb a month even with very lite tethering.

Or I could just be flat out wrong. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lemeja:
This is complete bs. Does this apply to older phones too? I'm a hardcore USB tether user on my G1. How will they even be able to tell if I'm tethering or not?
[G2 and Desire Z General] HamNCheese:
Many other sources are reporting that there's no increase in your limit. So 5gb may still apply.

http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/

via... http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/10/26/t-mobile-to-debut-tethering-plan-on-november-3rd-14-99/

Either way, screw that - I'll never pay for tethering.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WilliamStern:
I think this was their plan the whole time? Which is most likely why the G2 is locked down the the it is. They want to charge for something that can be done for free if the phone was rooted. I wouldn't be shocked if all phones from this point on is locked up as well.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xKERNALx:
So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kubernetes:
Good god, why are you people so upset? Tethering isn't technically allowed right now, although tons of people do it. What, are you guys going to stop tethering because T-Mobile is going to charge for an official service? Of course not. You'll use PdaNet or mobile AP and T-Mobile won't give a crap, just like always.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kubernetes:
No, it's still unlimited data, it's just that there's a soft cap where they'll throttle you down to Edge if you go over 5GB. But the soft cap applies to all data, whether tethered or not, and always has (it used to be 10GB).
[G2 and Desire Z General] hawaiian.monzta:
Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
[G2 and Desire Z General] Shambala001:
No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds
[G2 and Desire Z General] djf8:
Well since there is no 3G service where I live being bumped down to edge speeds is kind of an idle threat for me lol.

Sent from my Fusion powered Vibrant.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Shambala001:
In my own situations, whenever I want to stream or do anything data intensive, I always have wifi around anyways ie. work, school, home etc
[G2 and Desire Z General] hawaiian.monzta:
But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddgarcia05:
Damn. Have you read past the 2 first post? I answered both these questions on the first page. I'm not pissed I'm just wondering my post made sense.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Shambala001:
My guess is that the native tethering app will tell t-mobile how much is being used
[G2 and Desire Z General] cparekh:
Honestly, I don't think this plan is even aimed at most customers. Rather, it's for taking advantage of the fact that Android is now a viable corporate phone platform. Simply put, I will get this plan. I don't pay for my phone, and I tether in situations where I cannot find a wifi signal for my laptop. I have no idea how much I data I use, and I have no idea what I pay monthly. I just know I don't want it to drop to Edge speeds.

I think TMO knows many will never pay for tethering. They won't charge you, and they'll continue to give a 5 GB cap. For those who will, in fact, pay more, they have found a way to capture $15 a month extra, and for that, they offer a little more service. It's pretty much the same concept as concessions at a movie theater or box seats versus upper deck at a ball game.
[G2 and Desire Z General] skiptomylou11:
I really don't even see the big deal. I've been tethering for over two years and have never gotten even close to the cap. I even streamed full games during the World Cup everyday and didn't hit the cap.

So basically, unless you abuse the hell out of tethering now, you will be totally unaffected by this. And if you indeed go past the cap, you should be paying extra anyway, because that's a lot of useage in my opinion.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddgarcia05:
Looks like they just put the 200mb plan on hold.

http://www.buzzbox.com/luis/MyBuzzB...00mb-data-plan/?clusterId=&id=11651466&topic=
[G2 and Desire Z General] jrdiaz20:
Old thread revival!!!!!

So where exactly does Tmobile stand with tethering? I have a poor college student friend who I'd like to help out with tethering but don't want to get them screwed with data fees. Do they check/know/allow it? Ive read up on this but its all pretty old. Anyone out there doing this with their G2 and have any problems?

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] nolimit78:
lol at least you recognize that you're reviving an old thread :)

So yes, they do charge for tethering but if you root/hack your phone you shouldn't have anything to worry about. The only time you'll run into an issue is if you go over your 5GB limit for the month. Even if you try to browse with the user agent as desktop, it'll ask you to purchase the tethering package.

Stay under your 5GB, and you'll be able to tether with no issues. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] hakkers420:
i was just wondering if there is an app like Fluxtunes for the iphone, that allows swipe and tap features to control your music while in a car.

video of it in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINsnbTDTSE
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] thecresta:
I've found Music Mod works well in the car when you activate gestures support.
[Desire Android Development] -Mr. X-:
Here is the latest Ziggy471 kernel for the Bravo, this is a sense kernel. I will be maintaining this thread on behalf of ziggy471 as I worked with him in the development of this kernel. I will be taking most questions and support within this thread.

Changelog:

Added LZMA compression for the kernel image, makes it uber small. This should help with the few non-booters still left. Also, since it’s so small, EVERYTHING is built in, except wifi and on the EVO, wimax.
Moved the default boot speed back down to 998MHz, didn’t realize that some couldn’t run 1.113GHz, sorry about that.
Removed ALL debugging support in the kernel, this will speed it up and also makes it smaller.

Everything else is still the same, ck2, BFS357, BFQ, SLUB, CIFS, EXT4, gpu+, sd card speed up, etc…

Until I figure some things out with the AOSP kernels, I will not be releasing anymore, sorry.

Finally, for those that asked about the tweeks script I posted, it’s set for 1.113GHz max, if you want something different, edit the script and reboot. It’s the same script I had included in previous kernels, but had taken out for reasons.

Download Here

Source: http://github.com/ziggy471

Just a screen of the bench i got on my personal built rom.
[Desire Android Development] vnvman:
Yay awesome! Thank you for sharing :)
[Desire Android Development] ziggy471:
I'll also be dropping in from time to time to help Jugs out.

Z
[Desire Android Development] golf60:
is there a chance to get this kernel for AOSP Rom´s? :-)
[Desire Android Development] -Mr. X-:
He may do one, as of right now i think his plate is full.
[Desire Android Development] golf60:
it will be nice when we can get such a kernel with AOSP Code. It runs very good on the aurax rom....
[Desire Android Development] MemAllocatoR:
thanks for that kernel Jugalo but somehow its not working for me, its just get stucked at the splash screen after i flash it! can you please help me solve the problem?
[Desire Android Development] pulser_g2:
opened as sources available now.
[Desire Android Development] -Mr. X-:
And we're back :D
[Desire Android Development] snq-:
drivers/undervolt ;)

avs also there
[Desire Android Development] ziggy471:
I'll eventually try and get to the AOSP too, but as Jugs said, my plate is full right now.

Z
[Desire Android Development] miyu-hitori:
I have test it for LeeDroid 2.2d,wifi not work,can't open
[Desire Android Development] golf60:
It would be nice a aosp ROM Kernel with this Features. :-)
[Desire Android Development] juberg:
hi,

i had the same prob.

i copied the wifi module bcm4329.ko from the kernel.zip manually into /system/lib/modules.

i also had to copy the screenstate-scaling script manully into /etc/init.d

than it worked like a charm.

have fun.

m.
[Desire Android Development] Oijkn:
Hi thanks for this great mod of Kernel but it doesn't work for me, I'm under AuraxTSense 7.9 with Richardtrip Kernel V5 and all work well. After to have flashed my phone with your "[KERNEL] Ziggy471 Bravo 26 Oct" my Desire stay freeze in the splash boot and don't want to boot...then i have re flashed my phone with richardtrip kernel and all is good again.

Can you help me or what I'm doing wrong ?

Regards, Oijkn.
[Desire Android Development] ziggy471:
That's really odd, since those lines are in the the updater-script, so idk what the issue was.

Did you verify the downloaded file against the md5sums I posted, I know I had a few people that had bad downloads before.

Z
[Desire Android Development] Broquen:
You posted same problem on Ziggy's site and here and in both places you didn't take the trouble to read previous post talking about the same issue...
[Desire Android Development] Broquen:
I verified it, and don't know any ppl with aurax and this kernel working ok :(

PS- Sorry about double posting.
[Desire Android Development] Dave_G7:
+1

Having same problem, bootloop @ splash screen...

Any idea/solution?
[Desire Android Development] Oijkn:
@ziggy471 : Thanks for quickly reply, yes i have checked if the md5sums is the same and all is good. I don't know really why your moded kernel don't work. If you need some informations about the AuraxTSense ROM i can help you if you want, i can understand that you don't want to re flash your phone every day ^^

@Broquen : Hi, I have posted in both site and what is the problem mate ?? It's forbidden ?? And yes i have read the previous post but I have not found any solution to my problem, sorry.
[Desire Android Development] elmalote:
Got my highest quadrant score ever usung this kernel and not overclocked to max. I'm running stock sense. Got 1616 score at 1113mhz. Pretty nice. Was running Richards v3 before this, gave me max score at 1545 at 1113mhz.

Thanks for your work!!!

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] -Mr. X-:
First post update for NOV 14th release
[Desire Android Development] ziggy471:
Bump for new release:

http://www.ziggy471.com/2010/11/24/ziggy471-kernels-incbravoevo-updated-24-nov/

Z
[Desire Android Development] golf60:
is there a new AOSP Kernel ?
[Desire Android Development] yukkio:
Has it bat fix from snq ?

BR.
[Desire Android Development] ziggy471:
Sorry, not yet, I'll get that this weekend, it's a long weekend, and the wife's out of town.

I knew I was forgetting something, I'll add that in this afternoon.

Z
[Desire Android Development] ziggy471:
Just added it, there's a new download now.
[Desire Android Development] coutts99:
Note this is siberes battery fix, not snq one
[Desire Android Development] anko184:
Really impressed with that kernel. I used the 24 Nov version without bat fix and the phone is really flying @1190mhz.

Thanks a lot guys.
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
Ziggy, mind taking a look at the new scheduler (Group Cpu Scheduler)?! was implented on one of Richard tripps kernel versions by Sibere and the results were rather impressive...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9280769&postcount=58

i couldnt find the source for it(its somewhere in the nexus one forums) but this kernel by Siberes using it...

Edit:

Found it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=841599
[Desire Android Development] Oijkn:
I have just flashed your last kernel (without bat fix) and all work good, great work Ziggy :)

My phone is under LeeDroid 2.2f.
[Desire Android Development] ziggy471:
Thanks, couldn't remember where it originally came from, X had sent it to me in email. I was attempting to add it, create the update.zip, upload, fix post, update github, shower, shave, and get ready for work. lol

All I have to say is WOW!!!!!!!!!!

I'll look into it right now, thanks for the links.

EDIT: That'll take some doing, it's a patch set for the 2.6.37 tree.

Z
[Desire Android Development] yukkio:
Oh, ok. I thought there were 2 bat fix, from siberes and the other one from snq.

BR.
[Desire Android Development] coutts99:
I *think* sibere patched 2.6.32, might be worth asking him
[Desire Android Development] coutts99:
Yes there are two, the one applied to this kernel is siberes not snqs.
[Desire Android Development] yukkio:
Here? http://www.ziggy471.com/2010/11/14/ziggy471-kernels-incbravoevo-updated-14-nov/

Edit: just downloaded Ziggy471Kernel-BRAVO-update_signed-11142010-0855.zip I dont know if this kernel has bat fix from siberes or not.
[Desire Android Development] yukkio:
Ok. So I think I'll keep your kernel because I dont know if siberes fix works ok
[Desire Android Development] coutts99:
It works great, there is some debate about whether it will reduce battery life though.
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
snqs battfix is based on cyanogens batt fix whilst siberes fix isnt and its his own dirty hack...

thats the difference between em, dunno what the differences are functionality wise..
[Desire Android Development] yukkio:
That's the more important point.

BR.
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
Argh, why am i still hangin on splash screen?! :(

im gettin a lil frustrated over this one!
[Desire Android Development] yukkio:
A logcat will be great to know what's happening with your desire.

BR.
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
cant seem to get one, its saying im missing system/bin/sh
[Desire Android Development] -Mr. X-:
Well then its not mounting your system partition on nand. this would also be why your hanging on boot. the question is why is it not mounting your system partition. There is no reason why it wouldn't unless your system partition is not YAFFS.
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
Well thats odd, coz thats the only kernel causing me problems :\

and how can i resolve this issue?!

im using Amonras latest 2.0 Recovery version and AuraxTsense 8.0 if it helps...
[Desire Android Development] lept0n:
Hi Ziggy,

I flashed your kernel but i don't see any modules loaded when i do lsmod or not even in the /system/lib/modules directory except bcm4329.ko , please check. thanks.
[Desire Android Development] coutts99:
@ziggy741

http://mirror.couttstech.com/android/bravo/kernel/taskgroup-2.6.38-backport-2.6.32.patch
[Desire Android Development] jtdesign:
apologies for them

This kernel works fine!!! No one waits past 25sec on the splash screen...

Do everyone a fav and wait Abit!!! The kernel is primo, for quadrant run ornament and sample of 16500 for 1113... scores only 15800 but runs the best of all 13 sense kernels. Tested on high output games and overall phone useage. No lag in games @1113 and 1190 is no supported but its not with others either.

The kernel works guys, quit your *****ing and be a grown adult.

%*$T me.

Sorry Mr x. Cool name by the way. Mega porn star.

:)
[Desire Android Development] mariosraptor:
40Mflops

:Dyupee

i just scored more than 40Mflops with this kernel 14 November@1190 and RCHD rom.

i have never scored this much with any rom, and trust when i say that i have tried almost all outhere.

Great work:D
[Desire Android Development] y2suc:
does this work for supervillain rom?
[Desire Android Development] Ascenca83:
Hi everyone

I first made a nandroid backup and then flashed this kernel under RCMixHD 0.12. Now I am hanging in a boot loop.

When I try to restore via nandroid in recovery I always get the message that I cant mount the sdcard. Tried 2 sdcards, both wouldnt mount.

Is my phone bricked or is there a solution to get a new ROM on my phone?

Is there another way to flash a ROM than from the sdcard? For exemple from ADB or so?

Thanks for your help!!! I really need it :)

Ascenca
[Desire Android Development] Jagdish84:
Finally got it to work for me, fast and responsive, thanx for your work mate!

if youll be able to improve batt consupmtion(althou its not half bad) thatll be awesome!

also i noticed the kernel performs better on the interactive govoner rather than the smartass, for anyone who wanna try it :)
[Desire Android Development] DearTanker:
I was flash the lastest kernel you have post.It's great!

Then,i want to extract the boot.img from ROM.But seems i can't found boot.img.

Is there anything i can do,or you will just give me a boot.img.

My device is desire G7.

Thank you very much,and hope you have a good day.:p
[Desire Android Development] MemAllocatoR:
yea same with me.. on Auraxtsense 7.9 stuck at splash screen :(
[Desire Android Development] rahul.pillai:
Ziggy, need your help.

I tried multiple kernels to fix wifi issues on the MTG4 port for Desire but it does not work. Tried yours as well yesterday :(

It just scans but does not connect...

ROM Link

My posts on the thread above:

Post 1

Post 2

Post 3

Post 4

Post 5
[Desire Android Development] ziggy471:
I have no issues with the double posting.

I don't have an issue flashing other roms, except I can't flash a bravo rom on an Incredible. So I may have to defer to Jugs on this one. The only reason for doing this kernel was for Jugs, he was jealous of the scores I was getting with the kernels I was compiling for my INC, so as soon as the source was out, I made him one.

Z
[Desire Android Development] Broquen:
Don't want to discuss, just sorry if you think I'm wrong :)
[Desire Android Development] vnvman:
Well for some reason i was getting wifi issues (silent module) when i was trying to flash this kernel via clockworkmod recovery (cache/dalvik wiped)...then i tried to flash it via amon ra (cache/dalvik wipe too) and all went ok. Idk what, maybe clockworkmod couldn't wipe properly or something. Maybe those with issues should try this...just my 2 cents.

Anyway it's running great now: just got 1642 on quadrant, this thing is fast :D

Leedroid 2.2d here...
[Desire Android Development] Oijkn:
I have tested to go back into recovery mode and erase Cache and Dalvik..but the phone stay freeze in boot splash...Have you any more idea ?
[Desire Android Development] vnvman:
Are you using clockworkmod?
[Desire Android Development] Oijkn:
Yes i'm using ClockworkMod 2.5.0.7...and i see that you use AmonRA and work well ^^

At the moment i'm at office work and i don't have the cable for use unrevoked recovery..
[Desire Android Development] lerutis:
Same here, stuck at splash.
[Desire Android Development] Dave_G7:
sry its my second post for the sam problem (bootloop on splash screen)

want to post some more informations:

ROM: LeeDroid 2.2b, kernel from Lee and -snq ...

working fine, but id like to test this one! (interested in SD card fix...)

Recovery: RA_1.7.0.1 R5

THX dave
[Desire Android Development] -Mr. X-:
if any of you boot loop boys are savvy with ADB please fire up logcat while its hanging to see where it ****s its pants for us.
[Desire Android Development] Oijkn:
Can you explain me the steps to follow to do it please and then i can report you the log if you want :)
[Desire Android Development] -Mr. X-:
Connect the device to usb while booting

then open up an ADB shell by running the command "ADB shell" in windows command prompt while in the same folder as ADB.exe or run "sudo ADB shell" in linux terminal while you have the android SDK in $PATH.

this will give you an adb shell.

Then type in logcat and hit enter it will go on for a bit and the last part of the log will be where it is freezing.
[Desire Android Development] Oijkn:
Ok i will try it tonight when i come back to home and report it to you (if the new version of AuraxTSense is not released yet ^^)

Regards, Oijkn.
[Desire Android Development] Oijkn:
When my device is freeze on boot splash and USB cable plugged in my PC, then i open a command MS-DOS edn type : adb shell but i have got an message error.

C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>adb shell
- exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: No such file or directory (2) -

Can you help me with that for the log report please ?
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
Edit: I haven't read good.
[Desire Android Development] padlets:
you need to write the commad

adb logcat