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[Android Software Development] nailik0110:
:D

I know, the SMS app is not really an SMS app so far, but as TheRedDrake and I said in previous posts, the SMS app is something I am doing, all other apps are going to be managed by TheRedDrake.

All what I can say so far is that my SMS app now can also send SMS and the Send screen has a pretty nice UI.
[Android Software Development] mikeeam:
Most important then nice UI, is to be useful. Hope it doens't disappoint the user with lot of bugs and missing features (like receive confirmation).

Well, do not rush the developers. Afterall, they are not paid for that (yet), And we don't want it to be like Microsoft's OS. Just seems like it.
[Android Software Development] Talderon:
I work in a devision of my company where I interface with Dev's on a daily basis (enterprise level development work) and even with DOZENS or more Dev's working on a project, large or small, there is a LOT of planning involved, coding, testing and organization. It's never as simple as jot down some code, compile it and then let the Beta testers have it... There are several stages before it can even reach Beta. There has to be a Dev testing phase, a User Acceptance testing (where features are tested and validated as working and working as expected) then we can get to Alpha a Beta releases.

As much as I want this to come to life, I understand the development life cycle and will wait.

Updates are always good to have, especially when you bait the public, but I would rather get slow updates and real progress than tons of updates and no progress.

My donation pool is growing and will most likely see that this projects gets a good share once something is out and is being actively worked on.
[Android Software Development] :
The last guy working on the site left. Gladly Talderon offered to help so the good news is there will be no more delays.
[Android Software Development] zachattack112:
I can't wait for this, it will help me decide whether to upgrade to WP7 or stay with Android
[Android Software Development] :
Buying a WP7 phone it's called a downgrade. :)
[Android Software Development] mikeeam:
Oh yeah. Because Google should be paying you for this. Or just making you Droid-Zombies.

The same "blahblahblah" when someone talk about other OS, but here you are, sweating your shirts off to make an UI anything like it. Not even close.

Maybe you are the last person in this thread, at least, that can say it.
[Android Software Development] :
The WP7 UI is nice, but as an OS WP7 is even behind the Iphone. So i say it again: buying a WP7 phone it's a downgrade, better buy a Isheet... at least you will be more satisfied with it.
[Android Software Development] mikeeam:
I have an i**** 4, a Droid, a Nexus S and a HD7.

So I tried every phone.

Yeah, Android is the most flexible, the 'openess' is really great. But, I don't know why, it is now smooth. You have always the feeling that it still just a beta.

And I hate how I can't update my Droid (Milestone, actually), and all the work I have to install ROMs and etc.

iPhone, I can't deny that it is really a good phone. Beside the besides, I have an App for everything, is pretty smooth and it was my main phone (I always use 2 at the same time) before HD7.

HD7 is the newest here. It doesn't have the same freedom that I have with Androids, true. Neither the same Apps (worse comparing with iPhone). But I must say; it works. Yeah, a lot of bugs yet, but totally smooth, and works! It's the best of Android and iPhone. "Widgets", smooth, and sexy UI.

It is a mistake say that is "downgrade". Maybe it's not the best to you, but my three that had Android, now have WP7 and they are a lot satisfied.

They are not like us (I guess I can talk 'us') that are used to modify and try out every bit of our phones. They just want to hold the phone and send text or make calls.
[Android Software Development] :
Well if you want just to call and send SMS, why do you need a smartphone anyway?
[Android Software Development] mikeeam:
So, basically, if you have a smartphone you do need to tweak all around to get a real smartphone?
[Android Software Development] purian23:
Ok, back to the topic at hand. How is the actual project going? What development is actually done or close to done as far as a release? I know you've said in 3 packs which is fine, but again I thougt our eta was here already, other than the guy dropping building the website. That shouldn't take too much in consideration as far as the project itself is.

I guess i'm asking, do you have parts of this project already running on your device and which parts? It was said a long time ago that the dialer was close to being done then nothing. Any of this information would greatly help you and this project by keeping us truly informed. Your anwsers are usually more than vague and usually is answered "if you have ideas or what to develop and so on". .. Just give it to us straight dude., do you have the ppl you need and what's actually going on.

Thanks
[Android Software Development] Rsloan:
I must agree progress is becoming a bit questionable due to lack of screenshots or recent thread updates not to seem pessimistic but waiting on a project is not the problem its not visually knowing where a project stands that gathers concerns or one to be impatient.
[Android Software Development] :
Don't give up, you're so close. The beta is going to be released in less then a month. About the dialer: most of the dialer has been scrapped. It will exist but will be part of a very cool and original feature of the Launcher. Speaking of the Launcher, it will still be WP7 based but it will have some original features. One of xda members is working on some concept work to show you all the new features. I will not just copy and paste like the other 2 WP7 Launchers have. I want my project to be the best not just copy and paste, hope you understand. You guys will be really impressed. Cheers!
[Android Software Development] pyromatic18:
Are there any screenshots of the other apps available?
[Android Software Development] :
One app at a time. Thanks again to nailik for making the messaging app, this way will get 2 apps almost at once. You will get some concept work as time flows. Cheers!

Edit:Waiting for Taldarim to send me the site files so I can upload it.
[Android Software Development] Dane.p:
What devices will this be available for and how much is the combination of the 3 packs?
[Android Software Development] crackedvenom2:
Yeah im getting kind of antsy. Im really excited for this and want to try it asap.
[Android Software Development] r4dik4l:
i've been reading the whole thread and am now excited
[Android Software Development] EZY-E:
c'mon, when will you realise this thing? I can't wait anymore.. :@

will it be something like this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/31/windows-phone-7s-live-tiles-turned-into-a-pretty-convincing-ios/?

and will it be smooth like that?
[Android Software Development] bboyspyder:
I hope it is something similar. This UI on the iOS is quite fluid.
[Android Software Development] brilldoctor:
will this require root or will these apps be able to coexist with the stock apps and will this work on the wildfire (QVGA)
[Android Software Development] :
They will coexist with the stock apps. And about the resolution I don't know exactly. You tell me, I said MDPI and HDPI for the start...the apps will run on a Xperia X10 Mini so ....?

Edit: Any skilled guy willing to work on some concept work for some of the apps features?
[Android Software Development] asqwrd:
when will the first apps be releases i feel like we are jus being strung along with no proof of any actual app besides the messaging
[Android Software Development] Bestplayer55:
How can I get this launcher? Where can I buy? Its finished? Anyone can help me!?
[Android Software Development] :
The beta for the contacts app will come this month and the app will be released at the beginning of march. Will ask nailik to do a short video of the contacts in the weekend to please you. :)
[Android Software Development] brilldoctor:
Can we have a video of the launcher

oh and fail on me for not realising that it works on a z10 mini pro which is ldpi. Looking foward to trying this on the tab when.it is relesed to replace touchfail sorry touchwiz. Not sure amout the wildfire (i love htc sense)
[Android Software Development] semmtexx:
How's that crow taste? Project's looking pretty damn nice from my screen.
[Android Software Development] Rsloan:
Hmmmm..:confused:
[Android Software Development] digitalcoder:
See post 2....
[Android Software Development] irule9000:
launcher

Since the launcher app is going to be probably a home replacement, i was thinking that maybe you should allow to it be launched in app formm like windows phone android(**** app that is not updated). Also since the first app pack is free an the last app pack is free to xda, how much is the 2nd app pack going to cost and what is included in it? Also i was wondering about live tiles because of the all the windows ui apps no one has seem to implement them in a good usable way yet. I hope this project sucesseds its looking great so far, from the videos.
[Android Software Development] :
Only the third app pack will be free for xda members. For the apps included in all packages please read the first post and yes the launcher will be a home replacement. Live tiles will be implemented but not the way M$ has implemented them because they are copyrighted, hope you understand that.
[Android Software Development] Stalte:
What are MS's copyright restrictions on live tiles? How are yours going to be different?
[Android Software Development] brilldoctor:
Could we have a trial version of the full app for xda users (30 days ip possable)
[Android Software Development] cingall:
I would beta test on my device
[Android Software Development] EggoEspada:
Been waiting to see who would tackle this idea. Glad to see someone is.

Also, if you need Beta testers to test throughout different devices, I'm available with a Original Motorola Droid. :)
[Android Software Development] MeOverTrance:
Willing to beta test it up
[Android Software Development] driverx125:
i will be a beta tester
[Android Software Development] ravizzle:
i can beta test, i have a samsung epic 4g and an htc evo 4g.
[Android Software Development] guitargler:
Would love to see this happen. I can beta test on my G1 (rooted, running 2.2.1) and, assuming it won't need root, on my new phone once I upgrade (G2 or myTouch 4G probably). Also, I have App Inventor, but last time I tried using it, it isn't powerful enough to develop any serious apps, especially client replacements for a WP7 experience.

Suggestion: Make plenty of Hubs, as it isn't WP7 without them.
[Android Software Development] ballubas:
sign me up for beta testing!
[Android Software Development] matt992:
i would love to test this is you need anymore testers i have a nexus one :)
[Android Software Development] Danidemi:
Beta tester

I'm availble for testing have a background in Mobile phone sales for 12 years.

So i can tell you what is good and for improvement ..

grtz Danidemi

current phone Desire
[Android Software Development] drigerott:
i can beta test on my nexus one ^^
[Android Software Development] TobiasV:
I'd love to test - X10
[Android Software Development] DannyBiker:
I would be interested in this but only if it's fast enough...:)
[Android Software Development] :
Of course it must be fast, how would you like to contribute?
[Android Software Development] DannyBiker:
I could test and/or provide some design work.

When I say that it should be fast, don't get me wrong, I'm not pressuring you.

What I want to say is that despite its pretty animations, WP7 is a rather minimalistic UI, mainly text driven and it should really be an argument for speed if your launcher sees the day.

Try Zune Home if you want to see what I mean : that launcher is all about text but it is 10 times slower than any other launcher. Which is crazy (especially when it's not even free!).

Edit : I could offer a French translation aswell...
[Android Software Development] jdgordon:
If its done as free+open source I'd be interested in development (not much of a java fan but need something interesting to keep me busy anyway)

pm me when some dev thoughts actually start, I'm not going to sub to the thread because its 4 pages of "I'll beta test" which frankly is a waste of time
[Android Software Development] :
Well DEV work is going on private,if you have Skype PM me with the id. And Yes this project is open source and free by the way.
[Android Software Development] TheNorth:
I could be the beta tester

for language translation
[Android Software Development] bbbbqq:
I would be happy to beta test this.

HTC Desire.
[Android Software Development] Kroniq420:
I'd be willing to beta test on X10
[Android Software Development] pyromatic18:
That feature is great, way to improve and already great idea!
[Android Software Development] bestofrhcp:
it would be awesome if the was item count support for google voice, and i would love it forever
[Android Software Development] bestofrhcp:
oh and i forgot to mention maybe a music icon? haha :D
[Android Software Development] jlieu:
i'am using samsung galaxy s, can i use this launcher?

Send the launcher to jasonlieu92@yahoo.com. thanks....
[Android Software Development] :
Please read the first post. Thanks!
[Android Software Development] chad24taylor:
Haha, some people... :rolleyes:
[Android Software Development] crackedvenom2:
Lol, person only has 4 posts.
[Android Software Development] Moonystorm:
Okay..

It looks pretty good c:

If it has all the fancy animations it would Awesome x3
[Android Software Development] zinty:
Please When exactly ?

When exactly are we getting the UI so the donations will be defined, i want to know when the developers will release it then i can hit the donation box, else it smells like money is just collected and nothing will be done like other abandoned projects too, well am waiting so that i can have justification for any donation am going to make, don't take offense, just my thought as i have freedom to it. :)
[Android Software Development] :
If everything goes as planned the app should be on the market by the end of the month.
[Android Software Development] zinty:
Thanks Drake

Thanks so much TheRedDrake for this post, really you have made me happy and this month seems like it will be a kind of long month but ok that it will come and but i may ask, will it be free for some people that can't use paypal or credit card, what can possibly make it not available in the market at the end of the month as you said and can you be 100% sure that it will come to the market with the very neat-tty looks of WP7 really integrated into the core of our android phones or those of us using android in the lovely HD2 ?, not just some WP7 look at the home screen but having a theme where my friends wont be able to tell it from a WP7 and an android OS, don't take offence at my post friend, am a kind of guy that likes things to look nice if you must copy that things and even better, beside every payment should have a justification. :) :) :) :)
[Android Software Development] dannyschmanny:
most of this is answered in the very first post of the thread. he is paying out of pocket to devs to get this done as well as working himself. so, there could be a number of things to cause delays. devs working on certain apps running into issues, having payment issues to them. it won't be free. it will be a payed app (app packs) in the market. If you are a member on here you'll get the last pack for free, if you donated you'll get all for free. just gotta be patient. thereddrake and the devs he hired all have lives and jobs away from this so none can certainly just spend their time solely on this.
[Android Software Development] ap3rus:
Well, you have just described the every application development process ;)
[Android Software Development] Over8ted:
I have to say, if the concepts are close to what is going to be shown in reality, I'm VERY impressed.
[Android Software Development] Mellexx:
This is going to be awesome if it makes it out, sucks I'm stuck with my current phone until august though so I won't be able to use it more than likely but I'm counting the days :rolleyes:
[Android Software Development] dannyschmanny:
not really.
[Android Software Development] ap3rus:
Hi,

Will the beta be available for public or only for donators?

Thanks! ;)
[Android Software Development] br13an:
As many people mentioned before, it's only for donators.
[Android Software Development] :
Not true! It's for people who contributed. It doesn't matter in which manner they did.
[Android Software Development] ap3rus:
Well, if to say about non-outsourceable startups what's this and most mobile applications are, this is realy it.
[Android Software Development] zinty:
Hey how about those that only voted for the app ? Besides i dont have paypal account, i have only LR (LibertyReserve) account and how would i be able to purchase it from the market since i want it and i have the money for it *10 even ? Please quote me.:)
[Android Software Development] dannyschmanny:
most apps dont setup a forum post trying to get people to contribute help, then have to pay out of pocket to get it done quicker, plus have a bunch of people on there saying that it's not quick enough and the app is dead, and give BS denial/threats about the existence of the project.
[Android Software Development] dannyschmanny:
you don't have to have paypal to use the android market. the contributor thing is for the beta, and they can get it for free...why not just wait until it's released if you can't contribute? it won't be much longer after the beta. (also, paypal accounts are free last time i checked)
[Android Software Development] ap3rus:
why are you changing your words? :mad: i didn't say that every develpment process like this. that's what i meant:

every single project involves investing money into it. you can either find investors or use your own money. where do come people like you, keep arguing on nothing, wasting a time. :confused:
[Android Software Development] ap3rus:
how much do i need to donate to get a chance of using the beta as well as rtm? :)
[Android Software Development] pyromatic18:
A donation is a donation. Donate what you believe to be a good sum of money for the work being done here.

Its completely up to you.
[Android Software Development] dannyschmanny:
i didn't really change my words, i just elaborated more when you responded with a overly broad retort. so then i just clarified more. aside from that, dude..it's the internet, care less or grow thicker skin. haha.
[Android Software Development] :
Please guys don't get into a fight here. Only comments related to the project are allowed :D. By the way I think I will make a video today so you can expect a new update.
[Android Software Development] dannyschmanny:
sorry made the initial comment cause it just started getting a little old with all the hounding comments instead of just asking questions relating to the project. etc. awesome about the update. will that be later today or tomorrow?
[Android Software Development] dannyschmanny:
tried out an HTC HD7 for the weekend. They had a special on where if you sign up the phone was free, had a 30 day trial and if i decided to keep it before the 28th, they would actually pay up to 200 to cover my early contract termination fee from sprint. Unfortunatey T-Mobile's coverage in my most frequented areas just was no match to what i get from sprint or verizon so have to take it back. In terms of getting to use the phone though, i am 110% switching to a WP7 device once sprint or verizon has a cool one i like (hd7 pro with the keyboard looks stupid). Everything is so snappy and the UI is beyond a joy to use. In the meantime I am even more pumped for this project to come to fruition.
[Android Software Development] Fekish:
so again for this we dont have any apk? just the project description?
[Android Software Development] Stalte:
So what is in the apk? Is it just the contacts application?
[Android Software Development] :
Yes without facebook social features. It will be added in the following days.
[Android Software Development] Stalte:
Where do you want us to post our bug reports??
[Android Software Development] curioustekky:
testing time

time to be a guinea pig. lol
[Android Software Development] :
Please e-mail me with the bug report.
[Android Software Development] 2dorr:
Ok, I have the Contacts, it's fast and it looks good. Of course after it will have Facebook and other good ideas from TheRedDrake, it will be perfect, compared to the stock Android Contacts. I am a fan of the WP7 look, and to have it on Android is a perfect combination. Keep the good work guys!!
[Android Software Development] rahul.oberoy:
hi this project is so coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. is it simple UI or full generated like windows 7 phone with full animation effect. please release this application soon i want it to buy.... and please tell the password for the zip file...

and please make it capable for 2.1 eclair..................

i can help u for graphics work...........

thax u....
[Android Software Development] :
Hi,

It is similar to WP7 albeit not identical. It doesn't have the same animations because they cause serious lag. We really tried to make the app fast and lightweight. The app has support for 2.1 and for all screen resolutions. Also the app is available only for contributors. Also please read the first post for details before posting.

Thanks,
[Android Software Development] rahul.oberoy:
okkkkkkkkkkk.... when it will be publicly available on market.?
[Android Software Development] :
in about 2-3 weeks
[Android Software Development] crackedvenom2:
Ive never had an app that had the Services that cost you money thing, Directly call phone numbers. Whats with that?
[Android Software Development] aadis:
looking good waiting for moment when i m able to try on my phone
[Android Software Development] syrenz:
Sounds great. Look forward to trying it out.

One thing I'm curious about, supposedly the camera app on WP7 is super fast to load up (I think?). Is that the same here?
[Android Software Development] purian23:
Wp7 Android Starts

This contacts app is very nice, it's a very promising start to a long awaited product :)

Good job guys
[Android Software Development] lucas.scott:
where is the donation button?
[Android Software Development] purian23:
Right under the OP Red Drakes name
[Android Software Development] lucas.scott:
yeah im good now ... my windows xda is laid out differently for some reason , i switched to mac and saw it just fine in Safari . weird . oh well , donation sent .
[Android Software Development] lucas.scott:
For everyone that had doubt, this Guy is legit. Although its just contacts right now, its absolutely gorgeous.
[Android Software Development] pyromatic18:
It's a contacts app. Of course it gonna need to be able to make phone calls...
[Android Software Development] syrenz:
You have a video? :p
[Android Software Development] lucas.scott:
Ill upload one this afternoon.
[Android Software Development] asqwrd:
Launcher

So have u started on the launcher yet or are u going to start on the launcher after u have finished all the versions of the contact app
[Android Software Development] joshnichols189:
Donation sent :)
[Android Software Development] lucas.scott:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1OBocFG4Oo

Here is a video . The launcher is Metro UI Pro . Looking forward to the rest of The Red Drakes releases . This is on my 2.2 Samsung Fascinate. There is no Twitter or Facebook feed yet , but that should be coming soon. Lighting was bad . Sorry about that .
[Android Software Development] syrenz:
Weird, can't watch that vid "This video contains content from WMG and EMI who has blocked it in my country (Canada) on copyright grounds."

Thanks anyways though.
[Android Software Development] lucas.scott:
thats crazy . i havent had any problems looking at it ... sorry man .
[Android Software Development] syrenz:
Yeah, but you're not in Canada. ;)

It's no big deal, I'll see it sometime.
[Android Software Development] fsalazar504:
Donation sent!