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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ephumuris:
Not sure anyone would want to take this on as you can just flash a HD rom and use it that way. The camera will be fixed eventually and that's the only issue with the hd roms. Unless you're opposed to your apps needing an ext partition.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SgtBeano:
I didn't realise you could do that, I'll head over and take a look, thanks for the info.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ephumuris:
RCMixHD is best HD rom at the minute. Requires an EXT partition on your sdcard. Minimum 512mb i recommend at least 700mb one though. No Swap partition also.

Once you have the rom installed you must download Maps through it for anything to work (poi etc). UK maps were 400mb+ :)

EDIT:

Also bear in mind that the camera doesn't work yet as a lot of stuff needs editing for it to work. The guys are working hard for it.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snapilica2003:
There are other things I'm not very found in the HD roms.

For once everything is smaller giving the lower dpi that the HD has compared to our Desire. One example is the keyboard that was almost useless if you have bigger fingers although I saw that's been fixed by replacing it with the Desire Z keyboard. But there are other stuff too.

I do think porting the HTC Location is a better way but I might think this is not so easy. For once will you able to legally buy the navigation part after you download the maps if you have another device that the Desire HD? And if you reflash are you still able to use the license and not pay again.

So I do think you're right about people not jumping in on this, but it would be great though
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ephumuris:
Yeah it's a shame really. The best we can hope for is for HTC to update our Desires with a new Sense rom that fits on Nand...could be asking too much of HTC there though!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
Smaller DPI is SO much better, makes it look smooth - much prefer it to normal Sense on the Desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alomsdroid:
silly Q, what does the 'swap file' do/mean exactly, I am using RCMixHD v11 and have used Rom manager to partion, 512 with 32 swap.

thanks in advance :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] K900:
It's a special file or partition where the OS stores less used data from RAM so that more RAM is available for apps that need it

Sent from my HDfied HTC Desire
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] volapyk:
According to a news site I follow in Denmark, it was confirmed by HTC on a press meeting in China earlier this month, that the new Sense (and support for htcsense.com) will become available for HTC Desire through a future update sometime before 2011.

The news came from a translation of this tw page:

http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/?prod_id=4018&tid=4520460

I'm not sure if Locations will be a part of this (rumoured) update, but it wouldn't make sense not to include it, imo.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rokas_s3:
HTC Locations

Hi, I was wondering, has anyone revisited this? I'm really curious if it's possible to launch HTC Locations on a rooted Desire with CM7.1
[Desire General] Aitese:
Hi all, hopefully some of the more knowledgeable Android tweakers venture out of the Dev forums for a peek here and render some help. I know they get rather pissy if you post questions in there.

I figured I could free up some space if I removed stock apps I didn't use. I have a full licence for Docs To-Go so having QuickOffice pre-installed is a pain.

I followed a guide to move the .apk and .odex from /system/app to a spare SD card and looking at the files in total they combine to be about 6MB in size.

The funny thing is after a restart of my phone I'm no better off in terms of storage space...in fact I lost a couple of MBs!

So, for those in the know...what really IS the deal with the internal storage space?
[Desire General] AndroHero:
there is few benefits to removing stock apps, stock apps are stored on the /system/ partition as you know, the device dosent use this for anything except the os, stock app and other system related items like, .lib files and the kernel, the portion we have as useable data is on the /data/ partiton, so removing apps from /system/ just free's up space on that partiton.

now here are two possible benifits, i removed most of the stock apps, and media files from system to free up enough space, i then did a nandroid backup, and flashed the alpharev sence hboot, giving my device there new partiton tables, it reduce the size of the system partiton, giving me a much bigger /cache/ and a bit more space on /data/ or if you dont want to remove as menny stock apps as me, you can just remove a few, see how much space is in /system/ then using the tut in development, modify you own partition table, removing the free space from /system/ and adding it to /data/, you need s-off to do all this
[Desire General] rollercoastervj:
^ Is it just me or is that very complicated :)
[Desire General] Aitese:
Thanks AndroHero, that's cleared it up quite a bit.
[Epic 4G General] mattlal:
I purchased the 3M Scotchgard Paint Protector for my motorcycle...When it arrived I noticed that it would probably be 100-times better than the one that Sprint sold me for $20... and i could cut it to what-ever size needed.

Note: The protector that sprint gave me caused bad light-refraction. This one does not once set.

Simple tool - a pencil and paper: trace the inside edge of the phone (to build a template) Than transferred to the back side of the 3M-protector. Cut with a sharp object (Global knife in my case)...

Prepare the 30%-isopropyl + water solution (7tsp water 3tsp rubbing alcohol) ..wet a microfiber cloth and wiped the screen down. Note: you want to keep some moisture on the screen (note: water+electronics do not mix well..please be careful and remove the battery).

Apply the protector film...adjust until you get it right (or good enough in my case)..You can move it around at this point

Use the squeegee (use the microfiber on the edge of the squeegee so you don't scratch the protector) and remove the air-pockets/solution towards the edges. The microfiber cloth should absorb the solution as it meets the edge.

It will adhere pretty quickly, but takes about 4-12horus to fully set....

If you don't like it...make another one...you should have enough to do about 60 :) [That's like $1200 of screen protection! w00t]..

Hell, you can even use this same method for your notebook, camera, Car, motorcycle, etc etc. This stuff is tuff and can be buffed to remove scratches.

There's a hundred examples on Youtube if you're interested in some more projects.

Ebay Search: [can't link]

3M Scotchgard Paint Protection Film Bra
[Epic 4G General] zanate:
Anyone else tried this...

I read that the screen on the Epic is nearly indestructable (or at least scratch proof).

I've only had mine for a little over a week and it's been in my jeans pocket the whole time and haven't seen even a hint of damage. My old Touch Pro 2 was scratched the 1st day after the same treatment.

So my questions are:

1) Is it necessary?

2) Does it impair the touch operation? (I love how responsive the screen is)

3) Is it effective?

-Z
[Epic 4G General] acegolfer:
1. I think it's just piece of mind. If the phone is always near sharp materials, then it may be necessary.

2. a good protector doesn't impair the sensitivity.

3. depends.

I don't use screen protector as it gets messy over time. I have nothing in my pocket other than the phone.
[Epic 4G General] Xerloq:
The glass is highly scratch resistant, but the screen still scratches. My first Epic lived in my pocket for 3 weeks before I exchaged it because of a digitizer issue.

I noticed over the three weeks a few tiny scratches that were only visible under bright sunlight at just the right angle. They were imperceptable during normal use, and I couldn't feel them. Cleaning didn't remove them, so they were defnately real.

My new Epic has a protector, RealLook, though I'm not sure I like the fingerprints. The responsiveness is the same. Seems effective.
[Epic 4G General] Bigjim1488:
I use cleartouch crystal screen protectors by boxwave. I usually only need to buy one, they go on really nicely and last. Definitely worth the money
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
skinomi for me
[Epic 4G General] ggoldfingerd:
Over two months, I aquired one scratch. I was able to remove it with toothpaste. I was surprised because toothpaste never worked for me before.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
This post is intended for troubleshooting and finding solution to the GPS on Galaxy S ONLY

For arguing, dissing, and the sort, please go in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=722476

Post here your findings, your solutions and your attempt at finding a better fix for the GPS.

If you happend to try something and it doesn't work, please state it also

And keep away from none relevant facts

Here's my finding so far:

The way the device is put (in a pocket or in a car) seems to greatly influence the signal and the streight of it. The antenna is (apparently) situated in the upper left part of the backplate, just outward by the Sim card. if the signal is obstucted or not facing the right spot, it might get a hard time getting a fix.

Someone might confirm this and I will try to record a couple of track while the device is place differently in my pocket to confirm it has an effect.

I'm using it for:

Mostly keeping track of my working with Sporty Pal. As for now, I get an error rate of under 3%, wich is acceptable as far as I go but a lower rate would certainly be taken

As for navigations and Trapster, it's still pretty "on the spot", I'm drinving a 1995 Acura Integra, so I don't know if the insulation of the vehicule could affect the signal and the device is always on a spot where it "sees" the sky.

Settings used

*#*#1472365#*#*

Session Type: Tracking

Test Mode: S/W Test

Operation Mode: Standalone

Start Mode: Hot Start

GPS Plus: ON

Dynamic Accuracy: ON (Please note, putting it to "off" will make the GPS lose signal way too often...

Accuracy: 20

Use SkyHook: OFF

Use PC Tool: OFF

Location Settings

Use Wireless Network: OFF

Use GPS Satellites: ON

Phone Info

FirmWare version:2.1 update1

Baseband:I9000UGJH2

Build Number: Eclair.UGJH2

LagFix used: None

Rooted using: None

Uptime about 16h

Known Workaround

1-TrackerBooster (available on the market)

This is a booster for the GPS, if you have issue where the position goes all around randomly, try installing and running this apps before running your GPS application. It was tested with SportyPal and gave amazing result.

2-BlueTooth GPS, some users have tested this solution here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=818688

you can most likely find one under 30$ and it should resolve the issue.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mannoni:
*#*#1472365#*#*

should work better. (Does not work on Froyo JPM).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
well lets start with listing the known solutions

like for example using the external GPS receivers via Bluetooth

there are several tested and working Bluetooth GPS apps by our members in the Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps section of the forum
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
Thanks, corrected!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
I did start a thread posting 2 videos with "solutions" where users can actually see those "gps solutions" in action eliminating any kind of speculation (seeing is believing), but the thread was removed with no warning or explanation...

Anyway here are the videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM2gm5DAOjM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6QnNMxuCig&feature=related

In both videos, sgs's gps performance is flawless with or WITHOUT any assist (2nd video)like agps or aid of from an external bluetooth gps receiver (like in the first video).

In the meantime I already did 5 more driving tests, always running Motonav and so far no need for using my external bluetooth gps device.

The firmware is JPH, not customized and no lag-fix of any kind (not needed)

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] SkinBobUk:
Right, I dont want to start an argument and the video's above are very usefull.

But I think it's possible that the navigation software you are using is optimised and more than likely programmed to keep you on the road, rather than drifting all over the place.

I noticed this while in the car earlier. When using "google maps" my position was often miles out and all over, however when using the "google navigation" it kept me on the road and appeared to track my location really well.

So from a navigation by road point of view I don't have a problem.

So i thought a compare of SNR levels compared to a differant phone might help, so i took a photo of my sgs running GPS Test, next to a Orange Sanfrancisco/ZTE Blade. Both are running froyo, both had gps and a-gps turned on. Both were next to eachother, both were left to settle for five minutes after the apps were started. Both were connected to exactly the same wifi connection. Finally the ZTE was connected to 02 network, and the sgs is on orange.

From what you can see in the photo's the levels are pretty similar. Maybe with the sgs gaining a higher level on average compared over all satelittes it found.

Now with both devices sat next to eachother this is fine, however on moving around the sgs kept loosing its lock on the sattelites and stopped using them, however the blade kept its lock better. The blade seemed to keep its lock even with the SNR of some satelittes getting very low, however the sgs lost its lock at a far greater snr level.

Now I don't know a great deal about gps, but it seemed to me like the sgs gave up its lock far easier than the blade. Maybe this is what is causing our problems, maybe once it has given up this lock, the sattelite information is decreased causing a less accurate location.

Now I don't know how this could be rectified, but I imagine it is either driver related, or maybe some code in the actual gps chip itself. But im not 100% sure. It would be great if someone more knowledgable than me could give us their two pence.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
betoNL: Thanks for the TrackerBooster apps, I've done a run this evening with it and it's trully amazing!! With it, I don't see any "jumping around" issue at all. If anyone has any issues where the position goes "randomly", they should try TrackerBooster.

SkinBobUk: Thanks for the sharing, I'll try GPS test and post image with and without TrackerBooster to compare
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mazroui:
personally iv used the gps quite a lot to navigate around the U.A.E and most of it was using the trapster program to keep an eye on radars/speed traps while driving.

testing the gps is totally random, the results are never improving, simply random.

sometimes id get a fix in seconds and other times it wouldn't (guess its an SGS thing), playing around the settings i found the best combination to be...

Session Type: Tracking

Test Mode: S/W Test

Operation Mode: MS Based

Start Mode: Hot Start

GPS Plus: ON

Dynamic Accuracy: ON

Accuracy: 500

Use SkyHook: ON

Use PC Tool: OFF

tho accuracy is high at 500 the test showed better lock on gps and a max of 20m error, with accuracy i found out that the smaller the number , the harder it is for gps to get/maintain a lock ( even with high SnR numbers between 25-40 maintaining a lock was hard, the SGS was jumping around which gps to lock on ) and with a high number it would maintain the lock for a longer period of time. Highest i found was 500 and anything beyond that wont even activate the gps when running the get position test.

last weekend iv been on a fishing trip and needed the gps help , it was working amazingly accurate up to 5m error thruout the trip but every 5 minutes or so it would hang/freeze and the solution was to restart the program which was fine by me.

Conclution is that GPS is simply unreliable being in its Random State

(when under a lot of testing the gps would freeze/hang and a phone restart is needed to get it back up {switching gps off and back on doesn't help}) , i found a small app in the market called GPS optimisation by octy which should optimise signal reception but for me it doesn't but rather fixes the gps and gets it back from its frozen/hung state - time it takes to restart the phone = more than a min but this app does it in seconds ;)

hope this accuracy options helps you people out in getting better/longer locks on gps
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kekele:
I also use tracker booster with sportypal combined, it provide great accuracy
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
got the same feeling/issues/feedback when i tested the gps. trackerbooster and equivalent apps didn't really help me with the "lost lock too easily" issue

when its locked it seems to work fine (accuracy wise), but it keep losing the lock of all sats at once every now and then
[Galaxy S I9000 General] <stu>:
On my SGS I have found that if I hold it with the screen vertical or tilted back slightly I get significantly higher signal than if it is horizontal. Also portrait is better than landscape by 2-3 dB.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
Please write your firmware / Rom info and if it's stock or with Root/Lagfix

Currently, the only conclusion I can make is this combination is running flawlessly:

Accuracy on 20

Rom on JH2 (Stock for BellCanada)

TrackerBooster installed/enabled

NO lagfix

NO rooting

Latest run with this combination is right on the spot so far as jogging, I can clearly see where I cross the street or when I ran into a parking lot.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Imho, there are no special fixes or special settings to improve sgs's gps performance, just some "assist" or a-gps if you will.

There are all kind of a-gps possibilities besides the "standard" one that uses cellular towers wich in many situations can be unreliable.

Other types of "assist" are implemented by using the right software to simply download "fresh ephemeris data and injecting it to accelerate the first lock during a cold start* .

The big issue (again, in my opinion) is WHY the majority of the smartphones nowadays (and with that I mean NOT ONLY the sgs), are equiped wich gps chipsets that will require 'ASSISTING" ??

A couple of years ago, experts of the GPSPassion forum performed a comparison test between devices equiped with a sirfstarIII chipset and others with a-gps and the conclusion

was as I quote:

(here is the whole article: http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/articles.asp?id=175&page=6)

Well, their hope was is vain, cause even the very expensive so called high-end smartphones,

just stoped using sirfstar III chipsets or equivalent and using a-gps dependable ones,forcing users to find, configure or re-invent A-GPS solutions!

The good news (at least for me) is that the gps chipset of the sgs is LESS A-gps dependable than many other smartphones I tested, and even if it wasnt, I can always rely on the aid of my external bluetooth gps receiver(equiped with a sirfstarIII chipset), since programs like "bluetooth gps mouse" and "gps provider" work like a charm on the Android OS (see my first video: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8876869&postcount=5).

Another issue is that Google maps could be unreliable for car navigation and of course unreliable for testing as well: http://forum.samdroid.net/f9/maps-navigation-bug-missing-value-gps-accuracy-1247/

Cheers

* - http://books.google.nl/books?id=2Cx...=cold start and hot start definitions&f=false
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ~gtw:
In the images earlier in the thread where someone posted two pics, one of the SGS and a matched one with another phone, the SGS seemed to be consistently 3 to 4 lower on the same satellite at the same time. That would likely be a hardware (antenna) issue, and could it be that is the problem with fluctuating results, that the reception is just too flaky?

To me, that is an eye opener. Id like to know if it would be likely for the software to cause a reported different in signal strength. You would think that the reported signal strength would be unchanged from the chip, through the driver to the reporting software, no?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] betoNL:
Thank's for the input, but in wich conditions and where those pictures were taken? Are they taken with a camera or are they screenshots?

What I can say, eventhough I find OFFLINE software car navigation more reliable (and I always use up-to-date maps) they are not "optimized" to "keep me on the road" as you speculated, is more likely that the full A-gps (SUPL) on the Orange Sanfrancisco/ZTE Blade is better optimized than sgs's but then again that's speculation.

This discussion can go both ways:

A) The complicated way, mostly based on speculation, for instance: saying that Samsung or Google cannot handle A-gps protocols, I mean wich SUPL configurations to use, in wich regions, by wich carriers, with wich software and so on....

And: Nokia wants you to use the server "nokia.supl.com" on their phones and Google wants you to use "supl.google.com" on their phones, but how the different carriers, in different regions and the various software are dealing with those configurations? And again how to deal with full a-gps? And why do we have to( see my last post)?

B) The easy way: Just get a external bluetooth gps receiver (with a sifstarIII chipset or better) connect any gps software using "gps bluetooth mouse" or "gps provider" apps to it and get over with it !

I rest my case

P.s.- On my last 6 trips didnt even have to use the external gps, just the internal one...it is doing just fine;

i must have a specially blessed sgs or Holland is just a better place for gps navigation :D

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
A-GPS is only necessary for the initial lock and yes, Navigon, iGo et al are optimized to keep the position on the road.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SkinBobUk:
A simple test is to drive down the road using google maps, then drive back using google navigation. The differance couldn;t be more clear.

They have to be optimised to keep people on the road, if not then there is a problem with google maps, and i doubt that!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Actually, Google maps isn't perfect (if you check the satellite feeds, you'll notice the roads wont always align perfectly) , but anyway, you are correct. Car navigation apps do special work to allow large errors to be made by the GPS without freaking out. That wont work with normal tracks.

Testing consistancy

The problem here is that the testing must be consistent. What is needed is an application to:

1) Create tracks at the highest resolution possible

2) Record speed at many points

3) Maybe have OBD2 integration, so we can match REAL vehicle speed with the track

4) Record the satelites/snr values constantly on the track.

5) Have test scenarios, that takes into account the environment and speed. Because when walking at 1hz, updates of GPS are done every 2-3 meters, but at 100km/h, it's every 28m. We don't even have enough info to know how often updates are done, and some tracks are created by people who are in dense skyscraper ville. We simply can't compare the information at the moment

6) By comparing car tracks to google maps, you could even do some basic GPS benchmark type stuff!

Start with a proper testing procedure, create a means of gathering PROPER information, then we can finally start actually testing how reliable people's phones REALLY is! At the moment, we are simply comparing OPINIONS, because there aren't specific tests to follow. There is nothing scientific about this thread until a process to accurately compare results is created.