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[HTC Aria Android Development] emigre:
Hi cyanogen supporters,

Will anyone highlight the benefits of flashing a CM6 instead of sticking with Liberated R12 or/and Liberated R007 in

simple English

?

I'm confused over the too many technical details (ie. kernels, BBQ, etc) and probably don't need to know them as I'm just a regular phone user who's trying to get the most out of his Aria through available applications, not tinkering with systems and stuffs as I have no clue whatsoever regarding programming and development.

I checked out the features in Cyanogen wiki and the advantages I found out are:

1. Ability to move apps to SD card

2. FROYO OS (whatever it does to the system!)

That's about it!

Will users flashing Cyanogen CM6 also benefit with:

1. Faster phone (faster browsing, processing, faster response, etc)

2. Better battery life

3. Less Force Closes

4. Friendlier UI

5. Better memory usage/performance (less memory hog)

Thank you for shedding light!
[HTC Aria Android Development] seboj:
Yes.

Some of that is subjective though, like battery life, it all depends on how you use your phone.

CM runs a cleaner, more streamlined build of Android than HTC's Sense ROM. It also incorporates more options for configuring your device, for example features like using your trackball to wake up your phone, and more theming options. The Cyanogenmod team also incorporate features into CM faster than you would get them if you waited around for HTC's release.
[HTC Aria Android Development] 911jason:
I'm having the same problem, but without Bluetooth being on. I fully charged my Aria to 100% last night while I was sitting in the car waiting for my wife to do some shopping. One hour later, ONE, it was at 90% and the phone had been asleep the whole time. I am not blaming the ROM, I fully understand that this could be due to some setting I have not correctly adjusted. However, I think I am going to try one of the Liberated ROMs later today. If I can find the instructions for resetting my battery data, then I will probably do that as well.
[HTC Aria Android Development] :
Sounds like you may want to stick with Liberated for what you want. R008 was just posted for LiberatedFR.
[HTC Aria Android Development] brswattt:
I would love to know this as well.
[HTC Aria Android Development] CallMeAria:
from what ive noticed this seems to be a froyo issue, as the original Liberated 2.1 roms seemed to have noticeably better battery life than both cm6 and the newer 2.2 liberated roms. As far as i can tell, and im no authority on the issue, this is just my observation, Froyo just seems to consume more battery than Eclair did, especially when the phone is 'supposedly' in a sleep state...

Not that Im complaining about the battery life of CM6, it does just fine for me!
[HTC Aria Android Development] 911jason:
Thanks, I think I am going to try the Liberated R012 and see if it helps. What am I losing by downgrading to Android 2.1 though? Anything huge?
[HTC Aria Android Development] zedbra:
well the Aria still comes with 2.1 i believe, 2.2 FroYo is a bit faster and some minor tweaks too. if youre not a heavy user the difference between 2.1 and 2.2 wont matter much

as for Liberated or CM6.... i have used both, and i like different features from each. CM6 was excellent and i noticed a big difference in the battery life. Liberated 2.2 was pretty good with battery life too. the only problems i had with CM6 were: 1-my SIM contacts were not visable, and 2- one game would crash. small stuff compared to the greatness that is in the ROM, im not a big fan of the stock HTC Sense.

Liberated is a fantastically stable ROM as well, you cannot go wrong with either one:)
[HTC Aria Android Development] drumist:
Next time you observe your phone battery dropping rapidly, run the Spare Parts app (included with CM6), then click on Battery History, then change the first dropdown box to "Partial wake usage".

This will tell you which apps have been preventing your phone from properly entering standby mode.

This is how I personally discovered that the Slacker app (Pandora competitor) was keeping my phone from entering standby -- even if I clicked "exit" from within the program. If I force-closed Slacker, suddenly my battery life was good again. This was consistent behavior everytime I let the Slacker up continue to run in the background. So, I stopped using that app and haven't had any battery issues since.

My gut feeling is that you are using an app that is causing a similar problem. It's worth checking at least.
[HTC Aria Android Development] fightingcrest:
Anyone Experience the sensor that locks during a call stop working? I'm running Cm 12/06 build.
[HTC Aria Android Development] drumist:
Try enabling Settings > Call settings > "Always use proximity" and see if it fixes it.
[HTC Aria Android Development] zervic:
Out of curiosity (I don't even know if nightlies are still being built) will the new market be included in any of the latest/upcoming nightlies?
[HTC Aria Android Development] 911jason:
Thanks for the info Drumist, although it doesn't seem as if that's the culprit.

Now the only thing is, I ran this right after charging the phone to 100%, but I changed the 2nd drop-down to Total in all time (instead of Since last unplugged or Total since boot).

What's UID 10017?
[HTC Aria Android Development] zedbra:
the Aria is not known for its battery life, however there are still things you can do to improve it. shutting off GPS is huge, disabling "location" settings for certain apps and email update frequency, etc. you can google for battery saving tips also.

my biggest battery draw is the display, naturally im continually using the phone so the backlighting sucks it down pretty quick. in my experience, with the phone in standby mode on the stock ROM you should get up to three days on a single charge(this is not using the phone at all)

with normal usage on CM6 i would get about 1.5 days. either way i would charge the phone every night. hope this helps a little bit:)
[HTC Aria Android Development] seboj:
Looks like any attempts at data2ext will be at our own risk. This was tweeted by Cyanogen earlier today:
[HTC Aria Android Development] 911jason:
Thanks for the post zed, but yeah, I know all that... I was speaking specifically about the nightly that I had been using, it was much harder on battery than the RC1 I had installed previously. No big deal, I just wiped everything including battery stats and installed RC2, so we'll see how it goes from here. If it remains as bad as I was experiencing before, then I will just switch to one of the Liberated ROMs and see how they do.
[HTC Aria Android Development] zedbra:
Good luck bro. Im using liberated FR007 by attn1 now. Its a good stable rom too
[HTC Aria Android Development] 911jason:
Thanks... just finished flashing CM 6.1 Stable... in order to try and fix my juice leakage, I wiped everything, data and all, before flashing. I forgot how much work went in to customizing after the flash! It's so quick when you just flash over the previous ROM. I'll report back here with results...
[HTC Aria Android Development] iJudgeMAN:
I hear youre not supposed to wipe the battery stats unless you plan on recalibrating it the right way. I personally do not know how to recalibrate it properly, just sharing what Ive read.

If youre battery life is poor, you could look into installing setCPU and setting the scaling to Interactive. SetCPU has helped my battery life a substantial amount, or at least from what I have noticed since running Liberated FR008-RC0. Usually I would get about 13-15 hours with heavy texting and minimal web browsing before my battery got to about 15-20% on FR007. Now on FR008-RC0, which supports OC, I have had my phone on for 18+ hours with heavy texting and moderate web browsing, and I still have 33% battery.
[HTC Aria Android Development] 911jason:
Hmmm.. never thought about using SetCPU to save battery! I always thought of it solely as a performance enhancer. I removed it after a day or two because I didn't want to take a chance on shortening the life of my phone.

I had looked at the calibration instructions and there was never a definitive answer on whether you can even do it with a phone running clockwork recovery because part of the calibration process requires you to charge the phone while it's off until fully charged. With clockwork you're supposed to leave it on while charging.
[HTC Aria Android Development] drumist:
Actually, I observe no noticeable difference in battery life with GPS always turned on. I believe that it won't eat your battery at all unless an application is actively using it. It's not like leaving wifi enabled where the phone is constantly checking for new available wifi connections. The GPS unit doesn't have any reason to try to search for a GPS signal unless an application needs it to.
[HTC Aria Android Development] armyengineer51:
I'd have to agree with this. Just because GPS is on doesn't mean it's "on". Apps turn it on when needed but it's not always running. My battery life is just fine and I always have GPS on.
[HTC Aria Android Development] drumist:
UID 10017 appears to be some arbitrary unnamed application running. Since it doesn't have a proper name it refers to it by a number assigned to it internally. I get that on mine too so I doubt it's anything to worry about.

I agree that it doesn't look like there are any problems from the screenshot you posted. I'd still suggest checking it again immediately after you see the phone draining quickly just in case since it only takes a second.

I think the main reason they tell you to do that is that you need to realize that the phone LED will turn green once you reach 90% charge. They just want you to be absolutely sure you are at 100%. You should be able to get a good calibration by doing these steps:

1) Leave your phone plugged in until the phone says "Charged" and not "Charging" (by default it says this right on the lock screen itself).

2) Unplug the phone, reboot into Clockwork, and wipe battery stats. Then boot back into Android.

3) Leave your phone on without charging as long as possible -- until the phone turns off on its own. You can let it die over a couple days if you want or you can try to deliberately drain the battery by running apps that consume battery quickly.

4) Then turn your phone back on (it will turn back on even though it turned itself off from low battery) and charge it back up. I'd turn it on before plugging the cable in just to avoid having to go through Clockwork again.
[HTC Aria Android Development] SlyDogJeff77:
Get guys. Is there some kind of feature where I tilt the phone down and out goes to the home screen? I shook my phone and it goes to the home screen preview sometimes.. Where can I find some documentation on that?

I wouldn't call it HAPTIC FEEDBACK. but that's how I know when out happens. I can feel the phone vibrate.
[HTC Aria Android Development] kaschenberg:
Sometimes or always? I'd say sometimes would mean it's not supposed to do that lol...
[HTC Aria Android Development] TORQUERULES:
Went this route last night with my Aria. Glad I did! Using CPU Tuner I am overclocking at 806mhz plugged in and on performance profile. Is this okay? Seems to be doing great.

HTC Aria CM6-6.1.0-Liberty
[HTC Aria Android Development] iJudgeMAN:
Yeah, underclocking has been a huge help in saving my battery. My settings are Max: 600; Min: 245 with Interactive scaling. Try that out and see if it helps your battery life.
[HTC Aria Android Development] lilhaiti:
I don't think it will be included in the nightlies since it is a Google App. It will probably included in one of the next few Gapps releases.
[HTC Aria Android Development] brswattt:
I can't seem to find the portable hotspot in Settings > Wireless and Networks.

I only see tethering.
[HTC Aria Android Development] 911jason:
I downloaded a zip file for the new market off of reddit last night but I'm hesitant to install it since I have no idea if it could be malware. Not sure if it's okay to post it here, but I can if allowed.
[HTC Aria Android Development] zedbra:
you can install the Android Market update from HERE. reliable apps right in your own back yard!! LOL!!
[HTC Aria Android Development] 911jason:
Thank you sir!
[HTC Aria Android Development] 911jason:
Just curious, were you able to install this on your Aria with CM 6.1.0? I'm getting "Application Not Installed"...
[HTC Aria Android Development] :
Try this flashable zip...the only thing that worked for me:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9784364&postcount=20
[HTC Aria Android Development] tpbklake:
Under CM 6.1 released (12/6/2010) Settings I have Settings -> Wireless & Network Settings -> Tethering & Portable hotspot

Then there is a checkbox for USB Tethering and Portable Wifi Hotspot and then a Portable Wifi hotspot settings selection.
[HTC Aria Android Development] DougG_ATL:
Belac, this worked perfectly. Do a Nandroid backup before you flash it (should you really need a reminder at this point?).

The new market operates nicely and has a bit better organization. Not sure I like the 15-minute refund window. That's not going to be very good for business apps, which might take a bit of tinkering.
[HTC Aria Android Development] emigre:
Been running cm6 stable for the past 3 days now and i'm pleased with it. Came from liberated r12. Haven't tried my hands on the latest liberated fr8 yet. Downloaded but its pretty late and i'm lazy to do that now.

I like the user interface tweaks that cyanogen gives (ie. Yellow notification bar, etc) - how cool is that! As a regular user who uses his aria to:

1. make + receive calls & sms

2. have ebuddy online

3. be able to browse the web and xda forums

4. Keep track of task and calendars

5. Keep track of my expenses

6. Use maps occassionaly (i think that's the wrong spelling and i dont have dictionary turned on lol)

Cm6 provides a smooth and snappy platform already for me. I dont think its necessary to keep flashing new roms just because its available.

But i think i will tomorrow for the fun of it!
[HTC Aria Android Development] brswattt:
Wipe Dalvik/Cache and everything is there now.
[HTC Aria Android Development] ko0ky:
wake on volume buttons?

FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO SAY:

I love CM6 I've been using it for months now. Thank you ATT and all of course all the others who helped make this one of my most favorite phones of all time.

I did a quick search on this thread but nothing came up.

is it this latest cm6-6.1.0 build that wakes the device when the volume buttons are pushed or did I just not notice this till now?

I normally keep the device in my pocket and have noticed its already on when I pull it out. I am certain I'm accidentally hitting the volume buttons while its in my pocket. Any way to turn this off?

Am I the only one that is bothered by this? Just wondering..

Thanks again!
[HTC Aria Android Development] attn1:
If you are waking with the volume buttons, then you are not on cm6.1 stable with the supplied kernel.
[HTC Aria Android Development] ko0ky:
grabbed the latest from here.. about phone says:

kernel version: 2.6.32.17-cyanogenmodaria@glovanni #69

mod version: cyanogenmod-6.1.0-liberty

did I do something wrong?
[HTC Aria Android Development] eljefe27:
You are probably pressing the trackball and you have trackball wake/unlock on turn it off menu-settings-cm settings-input settings un tick trackball wake and unlock
[HTC Aria Android Development] attn1:
Tonight's nightly will have rotary lockscreen (optional setting) and the nls_utf8 module.
[HTC Aria Android Development] Lord Alekosh:
What exactly does the module do?
[HTC Aria Android Development] Milx:
i flash this through recovery, when i click on it in my phone. it just bring me back to my homescreen. why ?
[HTC Aria Android Development] lazyn00b:
Stock Clock widget freezes with CM 6.1.0

Anyone else have trouble with the stock Android clock widget?

Mine becomes unresponsive after a few hours. I mean if I touch it, nothing happens - the clock app doesn't open. I can remove and re-add the widget, but then it freezes again after a while.
[HTC Aria Android Development] L551:
I loved the customize-ability of cm, but had to switch because of problems.

One was android.process.acore would frequently take alot of CPU time. Switching launchers did nothing.

The other is that wi-fi is extremely unreliable. It couldn't keep a consistent connection, even if it said it was connected. FR008 does not have this problem.

Hopefully resolutions can be found, as it is otherwise a good ROM.
[HTC Aria Android Development] drumist:
android.process.acore has consumed a total of 5 minutes of CPU time for me since I last rebooted my phone 9 days ago with CM6.1 final. I'm not sure why you'd be having a problem with it. *shrug*
[HTC Aria Android Development] L551:
It was regularly the thing that used the most cpu time for me.
[HTC Aria Android Development] fmac:
Yes, thats exactly what happens to me. As you said, the only solution I found is to remove the widge and then add a new clock. Dont know why..
[HTC Aria Android Development] attn1:
The wifi currently in CM6 is extremely stable. If you have a problem with it, then you either have a problem with your particular phone or there are issues with the access point you are trying to connect with.

Are you using any kind of task manager? Those can foul up Android faster than a poop thru a goose.
[HTC Aria Android Development] ko0ky:
I think I know what I am doing. I can power off the screen and press the volume buttons and watch it wake up. And besides I don't even have that setting on.
[HTC Aria Android Development] ko0ky:
So what is it Sir? How did I manage to get the WRONG kernel which kernel should 6.1.0 be using?
[HTC Aria Android Development] abasak:
I am < 1 day old convert from stock ROM to CM6.1. Have some questions that are more of a curiosity.....

Looking around in the "About phone", I see that the phone number that this phone assigned to is not been shown. I see "Unavailable" instead. (The phone functionality is fine) . Is that normal?.

How do I turn off all haptic feedback?. The only time I want haptic feedback is when I set the phone to vibrate.
[HTC Aria Android Development] attn1:
Then something is screwed up. Flash the latest nightly, or flash a fresh download of cm6.1. If it still happens, then something is wrong with your hardware.
[HTC Aria Android Development] tpbklake:
Also please test on a newly flashed ROM before you reload any apps. Maybe one of the apps you have installed is not allowing the phone to go into sleep/locked mode.
[HTC Aria Android Development] chrisjaffe:
Are there nightlies for the Liberty. I thought I read that was broken. The link seems to be dead from the forum.

EDIT: I just found it. The link in the forum goes to http://mirror.kanged.net/cm/nightly/liberty/. But there is a different link in the discussion thread.

Thanks,

cj
[HTC Aria Android Development] tpbklake:
Try this link:

http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=liberty
[HTC Aria Android Development] CallMeAria:
Never mind, figured it out
[HTC Aria Android Development] L551:
No, I let Android handle its' own processes.

Access point is a DLink DIR655 with WPA encryption. If it was a priblem with it, the same would happen on FR008, right?
[HTC Aria Android Development] attn1:
No not necessarily. You could have buggy access point firmware in your router that likes interfacing with some devices and not others. With these ROMs, I have to use different wifi drivers for CM and FR008, because the APmodes are not compatible - essentially making the phone's wifi device present differently on each ROM. Some people say they have trouble with FR008 wifi and not CM6, and others, like you, say just the opposite. The feedback I get is that a majority of people on both ROMs do not have wifi issues.

I don't have any trouble with either driver, but I gave up on linksys a while back. I use a Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH with openwrt firmware. In my research when picking my new router and firmware I found that many people report more robust connections with a wider array of devices with either ddwrt firmware or openwrt firmware on their access points instead of stock firmwares. Others get improvements from upgrading or downgrading stock firmware. So just as device drivers make a difference in compatibility from access point to access point, so does firmware in wifi access points.
[HTC Aria Android Development] L551:
I have to agree it MAY be D-Link's firmware, they haven't been known to have the most "bug-free" firmware. (Seriously, if you take a look at their Forums you'll see many problems with it.

I would be happy to use DD-WRT, except it isn't possible for my router. (And Comcast is reluctant to give their setup info - they want you to use their crappy rebranded Netgear routers, which makes getting a new one difficult)

However, I am running the latest available.
[HTC Aria Android Development] attn1:
I'm running a buffalo router on my comcast setup.
[HTC Aria Android Development] L551:
How'd you get their support to give the info to connect? (Last time I tried I got the runaround, like "Oh we can't do that, you need to use our network equipment" or I'd have to pay for someone to come out and do it.)

Though this IS getting off topic, sooo... yeah.
[HTC Aria Android Development] kaschenberg:
You don't have to use comcast's setup. You can easily set up your own access point by:

Buy new router.

Hook up to computer for configuration.

Disable DHCP broadcast.

You then hook up the router/access point via cat5 to another router (might have to use crossover if not auto-sensing). And boom, you're done.
[HTC Aria Android Development] Fberry:
WiFi Issues

I have had the 6.1 installed for several weeks. I have no issues using Wifi. I use it at home from a comcast router and at work from a Fios router. I have also accessed wifi at other locations such as the library and Barnes and Noble.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for their work on this rom. It's great.
[HTC Aria Android Development] attn1:
Yeah, off topic slightly. If you are using a motorola cable modem, it just locks into the first MAC that connects to it. You can reset it. The modem just uses DHCP to connect to Comcast - the just have the serial number in their system so you can't change that without giving them the new one.
[HTC Aria Android Development] L551:
Yes, it is a black Motorola cable modem. We recently got it as the old RCA one went out.

So it shouldn't be too much of a hassle then? I tried resetting this router to stock to see if I could configure it, but it wouldn't connect. I had an old backup to restore, though.
[HTC Aria Android Development] attn1:
Not a hassle here. There is a reset button on the cable modem. Push that and it clears and the next device to connect to it is THE device that can connect to it, until the modem is reset again. Go to Motorola website for docs on how to reset your particular model. Here, the modem defaults work fine with comcast. They allow connection based on a serial number in the modem firmware. the modem only allows connection to the first device that connects after a reset.
[HTC Aria Android Development] kaschenberg:
Is it my understanding that the new Google Maps 5 rotation gesture/feature does NOT work for our phones due to a ROM problem? Tilt works, but not rotation.
[HTC Aria Android Development] attn1:
It's a hardware problem, not a ROM problem. The Aria touchscreen does not support true multi-touch, so it's not going to work. When you download it from market, it clearly says the feature works only on supported hardware. The Aria is not supported hardware.
[HTC Aria Android Development] kaschenberg:
I want to punch a google engineer in the face.
[HTC Aria Android Development] attn1:
I know what you mean. On a brighter note, cm6.1.1 stable is up.
[HTC Aria Android Development] jlayton15:
I can't download this yet not at home yet but how is it?

sent from my aria
[HTC Aria Android Development] ocswing:
First download link for 6.1.1 is broken, but the mirror works. Any major changes in this release we should be testing?
[HTC Aria Android Development] Bob889:
the rotary lock screen is a nice add-on, everything seems to be running smooth.