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[HD2 General] Casey_boy:
Just another signature on this angry petition :)

Same problem as you guys are describing - the clock keeps setting itself an hour ahead, so it appears time is going very quickly in my phone's world.

I've followed the suggestion here about the Time Synchronisation and it seems to have worked so far.

So thank you. I have also fired off and email to HTC to say the same (just for numbers).

Casey
[HD2 General] mikkeltysland:
First I disabeld

* Settings -> Data services -> Time synchronization

How do you do that one when you dont have the Sense look, but SPB MobileShell???
[HD2 General] dmsc:
I have MS too and I can do it. FastStart - Settings(Gear) - personal - phone - GSM/UMTS (translatet from german)

No need of Sense.

regards
[HD2 General] mikkeltysland:
Yes, I did that.

So theese are the same?

* Settings -> Data services -> Time synchronization

* Settings -> Menu -> All settings -> Personal/Private -> Phone -> GSM & UMTS Services -> Time synchronization -> Get settings
[HD2 General] mufch:
You can do it in the registry .
[HD2 General] AndrewSh:
The way to fix +1 hour is to disable NITZ service:

HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/RIL

NITZEnable = 0

TZEnabledAfterReboot = 0

I am not sure that the second value exists in custom or European roms - but it exists in OperatorPKG of Leo TMOUS (in my case).

Disabling NITZ you are to set up the local time manually but after reboots you will get no **** with clock settings any more.
[HD2 General] mikkeltysland:
How the f*** (sorry for my language, just really frustrated) am I supposed to explain this to my little sister or to others who I have recommended this phone??

I mean, I cant run arround dowloading/buying reg. editors and changing the reg. for everyone?

Edit: Will HTC release a quickfix for this, or can anyone create an .cab file that will do this??
[HD2 General] Spl4tt:
i got the problem again this morning. now i set that time sync thingy at the umts settings off too, i hope it works now... :3
[HD2 General] AndrewSh:
Your f*** sounds awesome for me instead of "thnx for the tip". You welcome dude. But I wanna remind that my name is not HTC - I'm just offering the fix. Do you also want me to buy regedit for you and your sister?
[HD2 General] mikkeltysland:
Sorry, the language was absolutenly not intended to you :)

Im just so frustrated, as I have recommended this phone to 6-7 others, and the ALL call me 5 times a day and ask for a sullotion. I am really appreciationg all the tips. I just dont understand why everything have to be so complicated? Just the thought of trying to explain how to edit the reg. via the phone to my older colleague just horrifies me.. :/

Must be possible for HTC to solve this quite easily???

But again, not by any means to throw my frustration out on you :)
[HD2 General] audiavant:
Mine changed itself, - Tele2 Norway (+1GMT)
[HD2 General] belesta:
I was turning mad for 2 days now, and I see here that I m not alone :)

Just unchecked the 2 boxes mentionned below and all is ok now

just a pity not to be able to use the internet time to be up to date

not only a Iphone 4 issue isn't ?
[HD2 General] t00ms:
Thanks, it works for me : the "Time synchronization" service now appears in "Settings -> Menu -> All settings -> Personal/Private -> Phone -> GSM & UMTS Services" allowing me to disable it (no need to reset)
[HD2 General] SSuk:
Tried everything. Disable automatic time update etc...

Nothing helped.

Right now, it´s 00:39 of real time. My HTC (Touch Pro 2) shows 05:40.

I will try to call to the HTC support at 09:00. Let you know, what will they tell me.

Good night
[HD2 General] IcePanther:
Hi,

I'm experiencing the exact same problem since this weekend, when DST ended. I tried disabling network time sync. to no avail.

I noticed that the GMT Offset in HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Clock was odd, and reset it, to no avail either.

What's especially strange is that the phone sometimes has the correct time, and sometimes display +1, +2 ...+N hours. I guess there are two conflicting services updating the time.

I hope a solution will arise soon.
[HD2 General] snowblindd:
US Time Zone Change will be next week ( if i recall right ) so could it be that the EU users using custom roms (us based) experience some kind of a conflict?
[HD2 General] SpAwN_CQN:
Already set to 1... Don't undertsand, maybe it's linked to the NRG rom...
[HD2 General] RolandCruise:
I tried the latest EU (ITA) stock rom and it has the problme too, but...could it be radio rom related from this point of view?

I mean: the latest EU rom 3.14 comes with radio 2.15.50.14 and, if I remember well, there was a time when .50 radios where intended to be used with the TMOUS HD2...does this make sense?
[HD2 General] SSuk:
Hi, just reached HTC support. They told me, that they are aware of this issue.

They told me, that they sent on my email some tutorial, how to fix this problem.

So as it arrives in my mailbox, I will share.

just now: wait and wait...
[HD2 General] SSuk:
tutorial by HTC support

they say:

It´s not an OS problem. Time i synchronized by Internet and by phone operator. It could happen, that your Operator has different time. That´s the reason of this problem.

This problem is usually solved in a few days automatically. That´s the reason, why we recommend turn off the automatic time actualization.

WM 5, 6, 6.1 : Start - Settings - Personal - Phone - Time Zones and Turn Off automatic Time actualization.

WM6.5 older HTC Sense version: Start - Settings - All settings - personal - Phone - UMTS services, Turn Off automatic Time actualization.

WM6.5 new HTC Sense version: Start - Settings - Data Synchronization - Time Synchronization - Delete all checks. Also Start - Settings - Menu - All settings - personal - phone - GSM & UMTS services - time synchronization - view (show) settings - delete all checks.

Nothing worked for me so far. Got any luck?

original email from HTC (eu-no-reply@htc.com) in CZECH language:
[HD2 General] ceh01:
CAB for GER WM 6.5 Rom

Hello,

attached you'll find the CAB wich solved my issue with DST in GERMANY on WM6.5 Stock ROM 1.72 and include the following:

#############

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock]

"AutoDST"=dword:00000001

"AppState"=hex:\

11

"HomeDST"=dword:00000000

"AppInfo"=hex:\

01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,6E,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\

00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00

"GMT_OFFSET"=dword:FFFFFFC4

"TZIndex"=dword:00000055

"Home"=dword:0000003A

"SoundAlarmAlways"=dword:00000001

"NetworkTimeNotifyUser"=dword:00000001

"NetworkTimeSync"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock\2]

"AlarmNotFlags"=hex:\

1C,00,00,00

"AlarmTime"=hex:\

00,00

"AlarmDays"=hex:\

00

"Len_AlarmText"=dword:00000000

"Len_AlarmSnd"=dword:0000000B

"AlarmText"=""

"AlarmSnd"="Alarm-Light"

"AlarmHandle"=hex:\

00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\

00,00,00,00

"AlarmFlags"=hex:\

00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock\1]

"AlarmNotFlags"=hex:\

1C,00,00,00

"AlarmTime"=hex:\

00,00

"AlarmDays"=hex:\

00

"Len_AlarmText"=dword:00000000

"Len_AlarmSnd"=dword:0000000B

"AlarmText"=""

"AlarmSnd"="Alarm-Light"

"AlarmHandle"=hex:\

00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\

00,00,00,00

"AlarmFlags"=hex:\

00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock\0]

"AlarmNotFlags"=hex:\

1C,00,00,00

"AlarmTime"=hex:\

00,00

"AlarmDays"=hex:\

00

"Len_AlarmText"=dword:00000000

"Len_AlarmSnd"=dword:0000000B

"AlarmText"=""

"AlarmSnd"="Alarm-Light"

"AlarmHandle"=hex:\

00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\

00,00,00,00

"AlarmFlags"=hex:\

00

#################

HtH

Greez,

ceh01
[HD2 General] rmeulen:
Thought...

Could it be that the operator time sync versus the time found when doing a weather update conflicts now US is still enjoying summer time?

It is just a thought which might help in pointing to a solution.

After coming weekend it could be that our pain is resolved automatically.

Remember; it is just a thought!
[HD2 General] SSuk:
I finished instalation of original HTC ROM on my Touch Pro 2 several hours ago. Then, I disabled Time synchronization a set time and date manually.

All seems to work fine.

link to download latest original HTC ROM for Touch Pro 2: htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=2&dl_id=913
[HD2 General] janbol:
thank you that's i needed
[HD2 General] luckyuser:
Same issue also on my HD Blackstone!

Same reg. tweak solved the problem.
[HD2 General] JustMiro:
Thanks man, you saved my life, its seems to be working well :)
[HD2 General] IcePanther:
Hello,

Does anyone know if this is solved, now that the USA's DST period has ended too ? I'd like to be able to use the time sync. feature to keep an accurate time on the phone...
[HD2 General] anhyeuemmaimai:
Didn't have any issues with Time sync here. phone currently reads the correct time
[HD2 General] suroh7:
Same clock problem with HTC Touch2.

This is what fixed it:

Regedit

HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/RIL

NITZEnable = 0

P.S. I don't have an explicit time synchronization button/box in my ROM, so the registry edit was the only way to solve the problem. I hope HTC will release a new ROM for HTC Touch2 with this bug fixed. It is really annoying.
[HD2 General] RolandCruise:
I just tried to activate time sync and it's still not working at all...

This is the most annoying thing I could ever imagine :mad:
[HD2 General] kossu_htc:
I just activated both phone-network time sync and internet timesync. Just after the first one, my phone moved the time one hour ahead. Then I just moved it back one hour to the time we actually have.

At least for now (about one hour) the time on my phone has stayed as set. Let's wait and see. At least I haven't seen an official fix on the problem yet.
[HD2 General] blakeboro:
I've today reinstated the auto update options and all appears to be well.....So far!
[HD2 General] Digsy:
Clock has been stable for 24 hours now since I disabled automatic change of timezone and clock in Phone>Menu>Options...>Menu>Network Selection>GSM/UTMS Services>Time synchronisation.

I run a stock 1.66 ROM and have HTC Sense disabled. I don't appear to have any other settings for other time synchronisation services.

I'd say this has fixed it on my phone.
[HD2 General] blakeboro:
Update

Actually That might have been a bit pre-emptive, just booted the phone and time is one hour ahead!! Bugger!
[HD2 General] webpatrick:
Found The Problem

The problem

When you enable NITZ (Windows Settings >> Personal >> Phone >> GSM/UMTS services >> Timesync) the value of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock\HomeDST automatically set to 1 (even if AutoDST is 0).

The test

I manualy set the HomeDST and AutoDST to 0, and after I enable the NITZ in GSM/UMTS services, the HomeDST is automatically set to 1, I don't even have to reboot.

Microsoft says:

So now I have NITZ=OFF, AutoDST=0, HomeDST=0, Manila Timesync=ON.

After reboot, the time is still correct.

To get back to the correct time follow next insturctions:

1. On the Manila clock select a city out of your timezone.

2. Select a city in your timezone.

3. Select current location.
[HD2 General] kossu_htc:
Adjusted the time for 4 times yesterday and took of all sync's. Blaah! :(
[HD2 General] poceh:
What are your registry settings exactly?

Because I've tried almost all possible combinations of AutoDST, HomeDST and TrustTimeZoneField with no success. By default AutoDST and HomeDST are set to zero, last one doesn't exist.

The problem is the timestamp of the SMS messages. Before 31-Oct-2010 all SMS messages dates were correct, after 31-Oct-2010 new messages are OK, but all "summer" messages are wrong, shifted 1 hour earlier! Anyway messages until April 2010 are also correct.

Can you check your old SMS messages and their timestamp? This maybe also has a relation with the time on the email and appointments as well.

I'm using a custom 3.14 based ROM.
[HD2 General] webpatrick:
Have you switched to another timezone and back? See my post above.
[HD2 General] Digsy:
Two days on and my phone clock is still stable after only disabling the auto update option under Network Services GSM/UTMS.

What I don't get from reading these posts is how there can be so many different regisrty settings for seemingly the same thing in so many different places. I just checked through the registry using PHM on my phone (stock 1.66 non-branded HTC ROM) and I only have registry entries for:

HKCU/Control Panel/Time/NITZupdate time (set to 1 even though the setting is off - this key appears to do nothing).

HKLM/Software/OEM/Phonesetting/ShowNITZpage (set to 1)

HKLM/Software/OEM/Phonesetting/NITZ (which is completely empty).

HKLM/Drivers/Builtin/RIL/NITZEnable (set to 0 = possibly the one linked to the setting on the GMS/UTMS page).

I don't have any references to "DST" in my entire registry.

Is it possible that HTC Sense and / or cooked ROMs have created this problem, or at least made it harder to diagnose?
[HD2 General] Dutch-Leo:
In my case the countrysetting cannot be changed ... It simply Freezes when i click on 'location' in the Country & text settings menu.

HTC HD2 Dutch (non branded)

Artemis ROM 41

Spl 3.03

Radio 2.15.50.14
[HD2 General] Phil82de:
Can somebody press THAT in a cab??

I tried so much last days and even with all time-sync off (web + carrier), right timezone-setting and "Duttythroy Winter Time fix.cab" installed I had strange time Bugs. (diffent times in CHT and G-Alarm/Tomtom, ...)
[HD2 General] poceh:
Yes, I've tried that as well.

When I choose a timezone GMT+3, instead of my local GMT+2, then ALL SMS messages ("winter" and "summer" ones) goes one hour in the future, although the summer ones (before 31-Oct) are again with 1 hour more difference.
[HD2 General] tboibes:
Hi all,

same "winter" problem for me (HTC HD2, cooked rom Elegancia).

After doing the 2 changes with check boxes in advanced settings the time still be correct and G-Alarm (old version, not the commercial one) works.

But GAlarmdisplay wrong number of "resting-sleeps-hours" when I set an alarm,

and SMS messages that I recive are timestamped with +1 hour ; so they appear before the SMS I sent firstly in the messageing panel.

It sucks a little...

As it has been told : HTC or cooking problem ?
[HD2 General] Ace Melon:
I'm running this ROM

Thread title: -L|MULTILANG|Nov 8|¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.-Energy-.¸¸.·´¯ 6.5|21916 / 6.5.X|21684 * Sense 2019

File Name: - Energy.Leo.21683.Sense2.5.Cookie.DinikGlass.Nov.02

On a UK HD2 TMobile with their 'new' offering of roaming onto Orange when the Tmobile signal is lost.

I've also been having the clock problem of it jumping up to three hours ahead.

It's guaranteed to jump 1hr ahead if I use settings\all setting\get carrier time

It will also jump ahead if the Tmobile signal is lost and it switches to Orange.

I think (although I've yet to positively confirm) that it also jumps ahead if I go from one "my Location" area to another.

It's super irritating as it makes a mockery of the machine being any kind of PDA/Organiser as it can't be relied upon.

The Android I have installed on it as well seems impervious to the clock problem which is a real shame as I've decided that I don't like android, it's iPhone with an identity problem!!
[HD2 General] dime2k5:
Timesyncronisation

I have GER Energy ROM from Nov. 09/08 running on my HD2.

After unchecking the option in "Phone>Menu>Options...>Menu>Network Selection>GSM/UTMS Services>Time synchronisation" and changing to the right time.

It helps me so far. Also after some softresets the time is still as it should be.

But what about the TIMESYNCRONISATION? I like this option to syncronise the time by one-click. But for now I can't use it because of the know issue(afte sync. it sets the time back to summertime (+1h)).

I there any possibility to get this working again? Any news from HTC?

Thanks to all of u, who are trying to solve this stupid and real nasty bug.
[HD2 General] webpatrick:
Here you go...

A CAB with the following settings:

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL]
"NITZEnable"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Clock]
"HomeDST"=dword:00000000
"AutoDST"=dword:00000001

Wich works for me.

After installing the CAB do the following just to be sure.

- switch to city in another timezone

- switch back to a city in your own timezone

- switch back to My Location.
[HD2 General] Ace Melon:
just a little update. roaming appears to be permanently on with my phone even with all the tags unchecked. i went to the cinema today (skyline) and when i came out my hd2 was..........13 hours fast. beat that :(
[HD2 General] AndyGizzle:
The screen on my HD2 became unresponsive the other day, so I handed it in at the dealer for repair yesterday. I also mentioned that the time was messed up after winter time change. She said it's a known problem and that

HTC will release a fix (she actually said ROM) within 2 weeks

.

You may allready know this, but I thought another confirmation can't hurt, right? :)
[HD2 General] Birkelandet:
I have a similar problem. Sometimes it shows correct, sometimes it's 1 to 4 hours in front. The ROM have been updated twice, and didn't solve the problem.
[HD2 General] Hitsuji666:
Same issue as everyone with the time... I itried the suggested fixes which work to the point when I recieve a text message... then goes all crazy again.
[HD2 General] IcePanther:
Yes, same behavior here : When I receive a text message, the clock goes all weird again.
[HD2 General] mufch:
What did you go and see "the time machine"
[HD2 General] Ace Melon:
Unfortunately not. I saw Skyline. Not very impressed :(
[HD2 General] JayMore:
Try the one in my signature, that should work IMHO. ;)
[HD2 General] IcePanther:
Hi,

Thank you.

I looked into the CAB file, and all registry keys already have the values in the file, except the NITZ one, which, if I understand correctly, turns off network time sync. My question is, if I disable network time sync., will the clock still be synchronized by another method so it stays on time ?
[HD2 General] JayMore:
It also enables HTC Internet Time Synchronization (only when not roaming). But give it a try yourself, set your clock off and wait, if you have an active internet connection through mobile net or Wi-Fi, the clock will be adjusted to the correct time in 5-10 minutes. ;)

Hope that works for you as well, I tested it thoroughly before uploading.
[HD2 General] IcePanther:
Thanks again, I'll try it.

Edit : It seems that the internet sync. indeed functions, I set back the clock 15minutes and it adjusted itself after a few minutes.

Edit2 : I also rebooted the phone and the time didn't seem to go off this time. So it seems to work.

Thank you very much

(And no thanks to (my provider) that can't get their network time right lol !)
[HD2 General] JayMore:
I'm happy it helped. :D And FYI, it's not the network's fault, it's a bug in Windows Mobile. ;)
[HD2 General] IcePanther:
Oh, okay. Thanks for the info, I stand corrected.
[HD2 General] PhilipT:
Hi JayMore

I have two queries:

(1) I am correct in understanding that if I apply your fix, and my Manila weather function is set not to update when roaming, then when I next take my HD2 abroad, it will not automatically update the time to match the time zone of any roaming telecoms operator it latches onto (ie it will only update if I manually allow the Manila weather to update via an Internet connection)?

(2) You said in a later post that this was a Windows Mobile bug. Others have said (a) that HTC are preparing a fix and (b) that the problem goes away if you turn off HTC Sense and use Windows Mobile on its own. Is it possible therefore that this is in fact a bug with the way that HTC Sense uses the NITZ-acquired time zone data from Windows Mobile in combination with its own timezone routines in the 'My location' routines of Manila?

Thanks

PhilipT
[HD2 General] JayMore:
Hey,

1. This patch doesn't effect "internet time synchronization while roaming" at all. And "weather update while roaming" is a different matter also. You can turn/leave roaming internet timesync on so your time synchronizes through the internet while being abroad too (will cost of course).

2. Maybe, never tried stopping Sense. That would make no sense. :D
[HD2 General] Spl4tt:
im never using sense, i dont like it..

running spb mobile shell, and i also got the problem

but solved with the time sync thingy
[HD2 General] smarphone:
my htc hd2 to , it not on time location
[HD2 General] Zisko:
First: I installd the patch and it didn't effect anything positivley.

But: Since I installed it, the order of my SMS is messed up. SMS I sent have the right time, SMS, that I recieved have recieving time plus one hour.

How can I get rid of this patch, as the option for uninstalling seems to not exist.
[HD2 General] StreetGrapher:
Seems I have one of the units that can't be fixed.

None of the patches worked, not even nrgy's rom with time syncing turned off on install...

This is starting to be a big issue as I can't depend on my phone any more... Don't know when i missed a call, when the sms arrived along with not knowing the time... :(
[HD2 General] Bernhard12345:
Hi,

which Patch did you install? the original HTC's one? This is working for mine HD2.
[HD2 General] blakeboro:
HTC Have posted an update patch for this on their website

About Bleeding time too

http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=0&dl_id=1066

Here's hoping that it works
[HD2 General] StreetGrapher:
Thanx, I lost all hope by now. Hopefully it works :)
[Android Software Development] GreatWizard:
Can anyone with a good heart here decompile the kernel attached below and edit the init.rc file in it..

please add the com.htc.framework before the framework.jar

and then recompile again and attach it here please..

Thanks You!..
[Android Software Development] GreatWizard:
anyone please!..
[Android Software Development] Gene Poole:
I think this is what you wanted. In init.rc, I replaced the line:

export BOOTCLASSPATH /system/framework/core.jar:/system/framework/ext.jar:/system/framework/framework.jar:/system/framework/android.policy.jar:/system/framework/services.jar

with:

export BOOTCLASSPATH /system/framework/core.jar:/system/framework/ext.jar:/system/framework/com.htc.framework.jar:/system/framework/framework.jar:/system/framework/android.policy.jar:/system/framework/services.jar
[Android Software Development] GreatWizard:
YES! thank you so much!..

how did you do that?..

would really appreciate if you can teach me how..

because there is missing that i forgot to add.. sorry :(

export BOOTCLASSPATH /system/framework/core.jar:/system/framework/ext.jar:/system/framework/framework.jar:/system/framework/android.policy.jar:/system/framework/services.jar:/system/framework/com.htc.framework.jar:/system/framework/com.htc.android.pimlib.jar:/system/framework/com.htc.android.easopen.jar:/system/framework/com.scalado.util.ScaladoUtil.jar

if you have sometime again that you can offer to me, please add/make my BOOTCLASSPATH like above.. i promise that it would be the last one.. THANKS!..
[Android Software Development] Gene Poole:
I assume English is not your native language. I'm not sure what you are asking. Do you want me to completely replace the BOOCLASSPATH in your boot.img with the one above?

As for how I did it, see this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=551711
[Android Software Development] GreatWizard:
Yes, thats what i want to do boss.. can you made it for me again?.. thats the last one.. i forgot the other framework to include..

thanks!..
[Android Software Development] Gene Poole:
OK, here it is.
[Android Software Development] GreatWizard:
oohh!!.. thank you boss!.. thanks for you time decompiling, editing and compiling just for me..

really appreciate what you did..

your the man!
[Android Software Development] fr4nger:
hi, i dont speak english, but i find this thread for google, man really need add etc/inidt.d to mi stock kernel but dont know how! i have only windows, and the other guide not work for me, can u help me?