yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 General] ckacey:
I'm kinda sad to see the HD7 has half the ROM of the HD2, but sense and the tmobile crapware were probably taking loads of space there
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tachi91:
Unless 512MB is all Microsoft needs for future updates + OS..

SO unless their plan is to release attractive phones to get people into buying them and getting used to the OS while only releasing Updates with Needed Features and Several Bug fixes so in the end the ROM is filled with Updates then they use the excuse that it won't support the next Step up since theres not enough space...

Just like Android in Some Cases...

It sounded better in my head
[Windows Phone 7 General] AceofSpades25:
hmm That way you'd have to get a new phone for WP8. I've read that it is in the plan phase already
[Windows Phone 7 General] Phone Titan:
I don't think the phone OS will get any ware near that and so I don't think 1gb would be needed.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ckacey:
By the time WP8 is ready we'll all be ready for new phones anyway, unless it is ready before 2 years is up. But if they do it like Vista and W7 and leave a bit of breathing room, we'll be fine. If they pull an iPhone and WP8 is out next year, it'd best work on WP7 launch devices too, and be pushed through Zune. A $5 fee wouldn't be offensive if this time next year WP8 is ready.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sir. Haxalot:
I think that there seem to be some confusion about the term "ROM".

ROM stands for Read Only Memory, if it's a read only memory you have to erase the whole memory if you want to add something to it (i.e. flashing the device). If it's real ROM, you can't use it for apps, no matter what platform you're using.

Now I've heard somewhere that WP7 can mirror data on a smaller, but faster internal storage for fast access. If that is the case, and the 1GB isn't really a ROM, it could be used to mirror things of the Storage for fast access.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Pete2s:
ROM is a misnomer but it's what OEMs refer to when talking about application memory. You do not need to erase the whole memory to add something new. The ROM space is meant to be changed infrequently.

I see two reasons why some WP7s have 1GB ROMs: (1) WP7 does install apps to the ROM for speed reasons; this means WP7 will be very limited in app size and some app developers will not create large, quality apps for WP7. (2) The phones with 1GB will also be Android phones, which by default install to ROM.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Pete2s:
I still have not found an answer as to what's the advantage of having 1 GB of ROM on WP7.

I'm still guessing that like Android's Apps2SD, WP7 is writing only the apps' necessary files to the ROM and storing the rest of the app on the internal/SD memory.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rob_p:
I'm fairly sure that I'm right in saying that WP7 doesn't see a difference between the internal ROM and the Expanded storage (be it Nand or SD Card) as it stripes the two in a Raid type array. So it sees it all as one contiguous drive. I would imagine that the original OS image will be stored on part of the ROM, and when it's initially set up, or hard reset etc... then it will deploy the image onto the striped array?

So I don't think the size of the ROM will make any difference in terms of updates, applications etc... I'd be shocked if MS had set it up so that they wouldn't be able to deploy updates etc... due to storage constraints - that said, stranger things have happened!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Jim Coleman:
"...writing only the apps' necessary files to the ROM..."

Am I the only one spotting the mistake here?

ROM stands for Read Only Memory. You cannot write to ROM.

There are types of ROM that can be rewritten via special processes, such as EEPROM (Electrically Erasable Programmable ROM).

But apps cannot write to ROM.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Pete2s:
You are wrong; please refer to my post near the top of this page.

Take the HTC Droid Incredible for instance: it has 512MB ROM, 8GB internal Flash and up to 32GB SD. The OS and all applications are installed to the ROM. The OS takes up a lot of that space and you're left with very little room for apps. You can install and delete apps from the ROM as many times as you want.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Pete2s:
Here's an interesting fact that makes the question even more intriguing: The HTC HD7 (512MB ROM) with 16GB memory and the Samsung Focus (1GB ROM) with 16GB memory (8GB embedded + 8GB SD) have the same amount of total storage--14.5 to 14.6GB. The few MB difference is likely from different pre installed apps (limit of 60MB pre installed).

This likely means that WP7 does not count ROM as part of the phone's storage. So why would Samsung put more ROM than needed on the Focus?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ckacey:
And that is the question that baffles here...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Pete2s:
Still haven't figured it out.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
That's not necessarily a typo. ROM chips are updated with software all the time and lots of people just say ROM because it's shorter, more convenient, adn it's what they're used to.

Lots of people said RAM even when there were SDRAM, RAMBUS, EEC-RAM, DRAM, etc. floating out there. It's just habit, and it doesn't necessarily destroy the accuracy or technical merits of the text.
[Windows Phone 7 General] WhyBe:
Nowadays on smartphones ROM = Flash RAM. The memory is primarily read from. Only time it is written to is when programs are being installed. Given the fact that OS'es and apps changes so much, it would be senseless for manufacturers to actually use real ROM chips. Flash RAM is the new ROM.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scirio:
...because I've tried everything for 6 hours now! Not exaggerating :(

Unrevoked didn't work at all for me on 3 different computers: one mac, one Win7, one Win XP. Same results on all of them. Just stops halfway. i hate unrevoked. Always used OTA Simpleroot in the past.

Helping a friend who got shipped an evo today and all the **** i tried messed everything up so I flashed the latest RUU to be safe. It was:

RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.29.651.5_Radio_2.15.00.09.01_NV_1.77_CNV_release_150224_signed.exe
[Droid Incredible General] logodude:
I have a Dinc and I'm running miui Rom. It has the stock vanilla browser and I want the HTC browser that can on my phone. Imo its way better. Can someone help me to accomplish swapping them out?
[Droid Incredible General] linuxmotion:
Htc has a specialzed framework which supplies part of the browser. This would require a decent amount of time to port it to a non-sense rom. Its possible but probably won't happen soon unless someone is already working on it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smc333:
Using Titanium backup..... It's really annoying to have to install over 100 apps one by one after I flash a new rom. Any way to do it without having to click install on every single one??
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stroths:
If you purchase titanium you can do that. On pro version click menu then batch
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoungeLizard:
+1... the paid version does it all automatically. Worth the few bucks to unlock.

sent from my HTC Evo
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkdude36:
Titanium pro (paid) will do that, but I know another way. This does not save your data however. Make a backup in something like astro, and copy from sdcard to computer. Once new rom is flashed, go into recovery. Put all the apps in a folder (I reccommend the name app) and put that in your tools folder. Cd to the tools folder, and use the command

Adb push app/ /data/app/

If you get the gist of this, it will put all the stuff in the apps folder into data app. Reboot, and they will all be installed, but with no data.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hardcor__:
@dkdude36

Wouldnt he still have to individually install each apk?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
you could always use a script to do it. Just put all the apks in one directory on your SD card and have it install everything in that dir.

I have one I made for a ROM of mine that does it with symlinks, it could probably be modified to install them. You would still need to install the app data or you would lose all your saved info though.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] InsaneScientist:
So, I've finally gotten around to rooting my eris and installing kaosfroyo, and I've gotta say, there's a night and day difference between what it used to be and what it is now. Kudos to everyone who has made this process possible and as simple as it is! :)

Anyhow, I do have one problem. When I go into accounts to try to add a corporate (Exchange) account, I enter my information and the phone says "Retrieving account information" for a minute, then pops up an error message that says "Setup could not finish - Username or password incorrect"

I seem to recall it not being able to connect automatically on the OTA 2.1 ROM, either, but in that case I had a manual override option where I could go in and set the settings manually. Now that option seems to be missing (though I've seen people mention it, so it should be there somewhere).

I also have an iPod Touch that ActiveSync works with, albeit I have to enter the server name (I still haven't figured out why autodiscover isn't working for ActiveSync), so I know that the server is correctly configured at the moment.

Suggestions? I'm at my wits end. :confused: :(

Thanks in advance! :)
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strongergravity:
The email app has been recently updated & has a quirk or two. I have found occasionally that I need to go into the account settings of the email program & reenter the password to get things to work. Especially right after setting it up.

Basic installation hints:

1. your user name should have the domain in front of it. i.e. domain/username

2. be sure to put the full server name in the server name box (seems strange to say as I type this, lol) i.e. em.whitehouse.com It is the "em" bit that varies from company to company - ours uses "em" for exchange mail. It just depends on the naming system yout it department uses. your iTouch may have it under it's settings. be sure not to use "owa" - that is a webserver.

But as I said, somettimes you may have everything set up correctly & still need to reenter the password.

Good luck.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] InsaneScientist:
The issue was that it was sending me back to the original screen that asked for the email address and password after the error message. I never could get to the screen where it asked for the domain\username and server address, and it would refuse to create the account without that info, so I couldn't go back and edit anything.

I say was, however because it's arbitrarily started working. I tried to run through the setup procedure again, and it gave me the screen that asks for that info. I have no idea why... I didn't change anything on my phone (that I'm aware of), and nothing changed on the exchange server (I'm the exchange admin), so I haven't a clue what happened.

All I can say is that I'm happy that it's working now. Thanks again! :)
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strongergravity:
Voodoo happens...
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] znoob:
I had the same problem on an original gingerbread install. In short the solution is to reboot the phone.

In long: I was simultaneously reading about push mail and how it keeps a persistent connection to the server to receive notifications about new mail. So suddenly it ocurred to me that maybe it was hanging on the the wrong server connection because it was a persistent connection in memory. And indeed, after rebooting the phone I was prompted again with the server settings.

Hope this helps.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xamilx:
Hi, I am from India, just bought a new HTC HD2 and so far happy with it.

Haven't hacked/flashed any WM device before as never used one! Have some experience on hacking my PSP though :P So, thought of asking for some help from you experienced people :)

Well, here it goes:

Checked my device Software Information and it says:

_____________

OS version

5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)

Manila version

2.5.19211619.0

ROM version

1.48.720.2 (71294) WWE

ROM date

11/25/09

Radio version

2.05.51.05_2

Protocol version

15.28.50.07U

_____________

So, I assumed I have an old v1.48 ROM and checked HTC website, it says latest ROM is v1.66. Tried to download but says my device isn't supported and doesnt let me download. Checked through many threads and seen someone uploaded official ROMs on 4shared folder. Those seem to be upto v2.13 as well as v3.14.

So please let me know which is the latest version of Official ROM and which way do I update my HD2? Updating ROM will also update my Radio and Protocol and OS versions?? If possible, please link me :)

Also I would need some guidance on whether to install Android or try any custom ROM. Also, which is the best Custom ROM out there?? All I'd need is 1) Battery Life (Don't wanna sacrifice HTC Sense) 2) Image playback (As I'm a fashion photographer and need references for posing on location) 3) Facebook and bit of browsing and messaging.

Also, where to enter the registry tweaks?? How to open the registry editor??
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jigners:
3.14 is the latest, you can run android on this with no

other conditions like HSPL.

Updating to a Stock ROM will change your ROM and Radio only

updating to a custom ROM (with HSPL) will update only the ROM - most custom

ROMs dont include a Radio .nbh

with your conditions above, both Winmo (stock) and Android has its own advantages

and setbacks, but both are excellent when it comes to photography, you will

come to decide which is best for you only when you've tried both.

there are a lot of registry editor available in this forum for the HD2

search for them.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xamilx:
Thank you very much :) That cleared many doubts.. reading more posts on the forum.. 11 tabs open right now :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rogershroed1991:
I just got the ota update from HTC to Froyo so I downloaded and installed it and it's running fine. The only problem is every time I try to open the Market, it force closes. I've rebooted and retried it and it always closes. I looked up some solutions online and for the Nexus One they said to go to "manage applications" > Market > "uninstall updates", but on the Desire the "uninstall updates" button is grayed out and you can't click it.

Anyone know how to fix this?
[Wildfire Android Development] dakhr:
Hi all

I 've wildfire with root access .I tried to flash it with all custom ROMS's, only CyanogenMod run after reststart but wasn't stable, others couldn' t even start after reboot. Loaded kernels ,without OC dosn't help. I only need try OC .Can it be done without reflashing whole ROM ??
[Wildfire Android Development] dakhr:
Ok done with Jacob Kernel :D

So far stable on 652MHz .Visible speed difference in google maps :D
[Wildfire Android Development] MySelf_v1:
I use the stock HTC Wildfire ROM overclocked @768Mhz and sometimes it just get fkd up when i write messages ... Im gonna change phone asap
[Wildfire Android Development] dakhr:
My HTC switches off casualy on 768Mhz i think this is too high for any Wildfire
[Wildfire Android Development] patrask:
Mine seems stable now at max 652mhz and min 245mhz ... i get like 3.8 mflops and I think thats nice?
[Wildfire Android Development] kevin2516:
Mine works fine on cyanogenmod with oc 768 mhz
[Wildfire Android Development] ™¤»Aamir«¤™:
i have a question do you have to flash a custom ROM to OC your wildfire?

or can you just have the ROM you got when you bought your phone root the phone and then flash OC kernel?
[Wildfire Android Development] relesman:
Could you please tell wich kernel? I have a WILDFIRE with Android 2.1 with root acess. With another rom i already used 691MHZ very stable.
[Wildfire Android Development] dakhr:
Kernel from this topic:

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=798471

Stock ROM-my Wildfire is completly "resistant" to any custom ROM(do not boot ,crash, screen freezes etc)
[Wildfire Android Development] dakhr:
Yes i've orginal ROM only OC kernel flashed

Kernel here :

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=798471
[Wildfire Android Development] metapolis:
How to..

Hi, how do I overclock? I mean, what app do I have to use? I also find a picture showing the temperature in the status bar - maybe it is also possible to show the speed as well.

M.
[Wildfire Android Development] Szakus:
buy SetCpu from android market
[Wildfire Android Development] philipchou:
Mines can do 748mhz ,but if i set 768mhz,it can't boot and become a "soft brick"(use clockwork mod recovery to recover it)

I use cyanogen mod 7 #17
[Wildfire Android Development] rainowy:
I found 691 to be most stable for every ROM i tried so far. SetCpu can be found free somewhere in the XDA forum.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thardie:
Got a brand new Evo 4G today with OS 3.30.651.2. It has HBOOT-2.02.0000.

Unrevoked 3 (downloaded today) goes through several steps, but after "It was a triumph", and it reboots and asks to go into the HBOOT USB mode, the phone is booting normally, and everything stops at that point.

I've gone around on Unrevoked 3 probably 30-40 times now, and cannot get it to work. As a workaround to the not going into hboot above, I tried disconnecting the USB when Unrevoked expected to go to hboot, took it manually to hboot, and unrevoked continued briefly, but then came up with the missing misc error.

I tried downloading the "official rooted 3.30.651.2" zip, renaming it to update.zip and loading it from recovery - fails signature check.

I cannot find any way to root this.

Any suggestions?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skribble:
i have the same problem, help please.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] papuga:
Unrevoked not working also

I bought my wie a new EVO yesterday and I have the exact same problem. I noticed that durning the first stage of the unrevoked process the part where "clockwork mod recovery" is copied to the phone, it is NOT being copied. The screen says pushing...clockwork mod" and disappears instantly. No way 25+ megabytes can be copied in about 1 second. Unrevoked reports a triumph but at the next reboot, you get the same message about cannot find misc file. Phone operates normally but not rooted and clokcwork mod recovery not installed.

looks to me that Sprint/HTC may have plugged the exploit as looking at the about screen, there are incrementl differences in all of the programs but android.

Hopefully this gets fixed soon, I don't want to pay for the hot spot for the wifes phone and Ipad.:mad:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GTIR32:
thank god , i thouht i some how jacked it up, my phone is fine , but i can't do the restore because i can't get the root to come back on, my error is the exact same as above , and is this clockwork something we can copy to the phone manually?????
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jbcarrera:
didn't know this update was ota already.... as for the rooting problem it looks like you will have to wait till someone finds a root method for the new update its shouldn't be to different from the G2 root since it was the same thing they did to try to keep people from rooting that phone but i'm not a programer so i couldn't say for sure
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkdude36:
try flashing the misc partition with toast's modified mtd-eng.img. this should take off the varifications that unrevoked uses. HOW TO (UNTESTED): go to this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=769937 and download evo-root.zip. unzip it. then, using adb, push mtd-eng.img to /sdcard/, flash_image to /data/local/, and rageagainstthecage.bin to /data/local/tmp. next, open up an adb shell. then use the command

chmod 0755 /data/local/tmp/rageagainstthecage.bin (don't copy and paste bcuz i dont remember the exact name for the rageagainstthecage thing. )

then do

/data/local/tmp/rageagainstthecage.bin (once again, check the name of cage.bin)

a few commands should be run, and it should dump you back in the command prompt/terminal. open up a shell again, and you should see a # instead of a $. then, type

chmod 755 /data/local/flash_image

/data/local/flash_image misc /sdcard/mtd-eng.img

you should'nt see any confirmation. just try to run unrevoked now. if it still doesnt work, go through the full tutorial i posted a link for above. it should also work on winows, and for any version of froyo... i hope.

dk
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snandlal:
Unrevoked will have a new version out really soon
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shane112358:
Is there any way right now to upgrade from 3.29 to 3.30? I'm running stock sense deodexed.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HiddenKnight:
I believe there is an update out, just go to your settings and find your update tab, and check for new firmware. OTA has been popping up on me when i was running Eclair rEVOlution 2.2 3.29.xx.x. Shouold have a 3.30 ota, if not, your gonna have to wait for a while.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] notread:
This doesn't look good.

From the 3.30.651.2 release notes:

support 2nd Source Camera sensor (Samsung)

Fix the NAND MPU security in hboot
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foresure84:
hboot 2.02

yea looks like we are screwed for awhile the best i could do was downgrade but it DID NOT CHANGE THE HBOOT so we are f@#$k
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] criffaaa1:
if yore rooted do NOT do the ota update look in htc supersonic /development and find a rom you like and flash away most if not all have been updated with new ota,kernels ect..
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dynamicpda:
I bought a phone this afternoon with 3.30.651.2. I feel fuxored.

Anybody try dkdude36's suggestion about toast?

I'm scouring the web for confirmation that something to break our version is in the works. I could find nothing.

I'm tempted to return or exchange for a new one and try to get the rep not to OTA it on the spot.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcbedo:
So was it not on 3.30.651.2 out of the box (before OTA)?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkdude36:
i will try my own method later this week when i get a replacement phone (little bro cracked the screen badly) will report back. it really should work. either that or somebody will have to make a replacement hboot (probably toast)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samzebian:
what does "support 2nd source camera sensor (samsung) mean? A hardware revision with a samsung camera? Evo version 004?

Good thing I didn't exchange my evo today, was near the sprint store and was debating to nand backup, unroot and exchange (cracked power button issue) but I wasn't sure if I would get it replaced through TEP for free or $35, since it was a common issue and they changed their TEP policy about in-store warranty repairs. I'll wait until the new unrevoked comes out to exchange my phone.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dynamicpda:
I don't know the answer -- I would feel better knowing that it came out of the box that way, that I couldn't have done anything at the store to prevent it from being loaded.

The rep offered me a trade-in deal for my Hero, which I didn't expect, so I was busy trying to reboot recovery and wiping the phone while she was setting up the Evo. 3.30.651.2 can't be more than few days old, so I assume they phone is older than that from the factory and that she OTA updated it while setting it up. I could be wrong.

There was a display Evo flashing a mandatory update warning but no one in the store cared to update that one!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dynamicpda:
I'm still trying to get Windows 7 to recognize the new phone. Let us know how your experiments work out. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brandito:
just got mine today as well and it had 3.30 :/
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skribble:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=827266

hopefully this guy fixes the issue...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] contractcooker:
Fffffffffffffffff d:<

Wow this really sucks. Is this likely to be overcome or is the evo no longer rootable?