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[Fascinate General] t3hjonneh:
We need a leak too. :( Time to infiltrate Samsung and Verizon development teams!!
[Fascinate General] mexiken:
Verizon has ABSOLUTELY no smartphone development teams....

They code NOTHING on ROMS. They never even hold any of the files on their servers, they are stored on either Samsung or Google's servers.

The best you could hope for out of Verizon would be a leak from a tester, and even that isn't likely, as they are PROSECUTING people who leaked confidential information/documents, what do you think they'll do to people leaking actual intellectual information ????
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
People leak stuff all the time. We just need someone with balls, and/or the ability to remove watermarks and other tracking measures.
[Fascinate General] mexiken:
Again, you're missing the point. I'm saying VZW has no development teams, thus no files to leak you. You can get a sys dump if someone was smart enough to do one, but people in those positions aren't....
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
Then how did the Dinc get them, hummm? Dx? D1? Eris? Omnia!? (had to throw in a samsung phone)

Your reasoning is ill advised.
[Fascinate General] Daswolven:
If VZW has no development staff, who do they outsource their apps and software integration to?
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
No questions. All I read was blah, blah, blah, I think I know wtf he is talking about, but don't really, blah.

You should really think about what I said, before replying with a wall of yawn that I already knew about.

1. Files come from OEM, yes.

2. Files are sent to carrier, yes.

3. Leaks can occur from either end, yes.

4. Files do not need to be final or a system dump to be leaked on either side, no.

Any questions?
[Fascinate General] mexiken:
For someone who blasts people for not using the search button, you get a FAIL for not doing it yourself. A simple search for CityID in Google (I used a search because I don't have the apps installed so I can't tell you who makes them off the top of my head) reveals this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_ID (In short, Sequint makes CityID)

And a search in Google for VZNavigator gives you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VZ_Navigator (In short, click on "white label product" in the 2nd sentence if you have trouble with that sentence)

It used to be made by TeleNav, guess they offloaded it to another developer who uses TeleAtlas now.

So theres 2. Even backup assistant is a white label product. I forget who makes it off the top of my head but if you really want to know I can find out for you (a Google search did not reveal this answer, ironically)

Hope this helps.
[Fascinate General] mexiken:
FAIL. NO, they are NOT SENT to the carrier, I don't know how many more times to clarify this. They are given a LINK (or can connect their phone which connects to a central server which much like Motorola RSD detects your model then downloads the software to your phone) to where the testers can download it. The ONLY way you can leak a build off this phone is when a tester dumps it, which again is rare, (and then too, the kernel needs to be changed to protect the leaker)

The leaks more easily come from someone who has connects to the OEMS.

You're either a moron, or stubborn, or both. I'm done trying to help you understand. Live in ignorance.
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
You damn fool, if a link is made available to the carrier, then its been made available for them to test/evaluate. Not much different than sending them it. IT CAN BE LEAKED FROM EITHER END. I never said they host it, or anything else. Damn.

Stop being retarded.
[Fascinate General] mexiken:
Its A LOT different, again, you're just clueless about how leaks are obtained....A link to an internal OEM server lets you control WHO gets the update, via many methods, watermarking, kernel testkey watermarking, in case of leaks.

A update FILE sitting on Verizon's servers for any employee to easily copy to a flash drive and then throw up on XDA does NOT happen, because the file never sits on Verizon's servers, for the taking. What, you don't think there aren't VZW employees on here, who would LOVE to take the glory for releasing a 2.2 build ???? How do you know I'm not a VZW employee ????

If they were, you'd have all the test builds that never make it thrown up very often. But since you can't quit pining for a 2.2 build that some tester has on his phone this very minute somewhere at Verizon, we obviously don't have access to those builds/know someone smart enough to dump them, do we ????
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
I never said there was a file sitting on their server for anyone to copy. Damn dude, illiterate much?

I know EXACTLY how leaks are obtained. I was there when CC20 for the Omnia was released, and I doubt this is much different.

What YOU are not aware of, is how easy it is to leak these things. CC20 was leaked by one person, not a Verizon employee even, who logged into the Samsung partner server, and downloaded it.

We just need someone who has the balls to do it, and/or isn't worried about their job.
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
Ahhhh CC20 that was a great day.

Carry on!!

good day.
[Fascinate General] mexiken:
I realize its VERY easy to leak, what I'm saying is, the file itself wouldn't come from VZW, the best you get is a system dump, which isn't the same as a .zip thats ready to be uploaded.

I actually leaked a file for the motorola q9h on at&t by a very similar method to the one you just mentioned for CC20. Its not difficult, but you require someone with access/time/balls, in the right combination. Obviously, if we had them, we'd have some 2.2 builds by now.

And you just proved my point. CC20 was NOT leaked by a VZW employee. It was leaked by someone connected to the OEM. Thats what I'm trying to say, they very rarely come from Verizon.
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
You are incorrect in saying it won't come from VZW. It may or may not. An employee with the right status CAN DOWNLOAD it, and CAN LEAK it to someone who can remove the watermarks.

THAT is my POINT.
[Fascinate General] jayfr76:
So after reading that somewhat heated debate, just thought i would share that my buddy here at work just pulled up a headline about froyo hitting all galaxy s phones in uk like now. So maybe a 2.2 for us isnot that far behind.......
[Fascinate General] ibebyi:
jayfr76:

I'm not very well-versed in how different android phone's OS's are built, but from what I've read its not quite as easy as a quick port :( So even if the Galaxy S gets 2.2, we're left waiting until Verizon rolls out the fascinate 2.2.

While I'm sure it's possible to port 2.2 from galaxy s to fascinate, our wonderful devs have quite a bit on their plates in terms of fascinate related work + a real life to deal with

But we're all waiting patiently :)
[Fascinate General] jayfr76:
Though I am not a dev more of a tinkerer, I do have an understanding of how linux works. Now the trick here would be to get a working kernel and firmware for our phones, once that is done, the rest will fall like dominoes.
[Fascinate General] plvaulter06:
I got my Fascinate in the mail yesterday. Inside of an hour of its arrival, it was rooted, clockwork recovery flashed, jt1134's super clean rom, and a 1.2ghz Voodoo kernel installed.

Coming from the Droid1 overclocked to high hell, and a hundred different roms, this Fascinate puts the D1 to shame in every way that I can think of. I couldn't be more please.

I am perfectly happy with the Fascinate as is, and I can most definitely wait until Samsung/Verizon release 2.2. But of course, I am never done tinkering and gladly await the day...
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] pzylo:
Would be nice if there was more themes made for vanillaeclair 5.0, for those (like me) that can't get metamorph to work, or be able to make theirown zip files to flash. :P

If anybody has any to share, please do so here! :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] L0cke:
Here's one I did for VE5. It's not being worked on any more by me, but feel free to use and play around with.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=729554
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] pzylo:
Too bad there is not more themes made. :P
[Hero, G2 Touch Themes and Apps] L0cke:
I think most people are using 2.2 these days so that's why there's not much going on.

You may have to learn to create or port your own themes. There are some tools on xda that can do most of the work for you. Search around for 'Theme Porter' and the like.
[Vibrant Accessories] jdancer:
Looking for ear buds with mic and remote for the phone. Any suggestions? I would like to get something like v-moda remix but they only work with iphones.
[Vibrant Accessories] narcopolypse:
They do work on the Vibrant. As will any of the four pin headphones for the iPhone.
[Vibrant Accessories] crvenazvezda:
Ya I just bought the Klipsch Image S4i and they do not work on the vibrant... Im pretty sure a software workaround can work... I wouldn't know how to do it though... Any chance someone can write up some quick code for this?
[Vibrant Accessories] narcopolypse:
The G1 had the same problem when it came out. It turned out to be software related.

The Vibrant is designed to work with any four pin headset. Alternatively you can get an adapter from Samsung that goes from the four pin plug on the phone to an in-line volume control/microphone with a three pin port on it.http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EMC40AONMEBSTD
[Vibrant Accessories] jdancer:
Is there a link available for this software fix?
[Vibrant Accessories] crvenazvezda:
The volume controls and the fast forward and rewind would only be able to work with a software workaround. As far as listening to music goes, it tuns out Samsung switched the ground and microphone pins AND the laft and right pins. And because of that I have to hold down the mic button to be able to listen to music and still it would be backwards. Im going to either make a 4pin female-4 pin male adaptor or open up the S4i remote (really easy) and switch them around in there.
[Vibrant Accessories] narcopolypse:
The software fix is the android 2.2 (Froyo) update. It hasn't been released yet but should be available in the next couple weeks.
[Vibrant Accessories] demize!:
Zaggs Smartbuds, they work with mixzing and the new powerAmp.

Is your phone Loki? Use Odin. You'll be Thor!
[Vibrant Accessories] Only Loki:
Somebody call me?
[Vibrant Accessories] demize!:
Heh, sup! You are the Norse trickster God right?

Is your phone Loki? Use Odin. You'll be Thor!
[Vibrant Accessories] Only Loki:
Yeah but not the gay one from the comics the runs around whining and wearing antlers
[Vibrant Accessories] deadly0ne:
Sorry if this is an old post, but I just wanted to know if the controls on the V moda Remix Remote really work with the vibrant or is it just one of the buttons for answering calls? I am planning on buying the headphones. I would also like to know if the mic is compatible as well. Thanks in advance
[Vibrant Accessories] gioffon:
Blackberry headphones work great on vibrant, nice audio
[Vibrant Accessories] nakagusukumike:
I'm also looking for a set of wired ear buds with an inline microphone. I'm running Macnut R12 and was at yodabashi camera this weekend, none of the iphone headphones with microphones would work (Sony, Sennheiser, etc). :-(
[Vibrant Accessories] tundra84:
Meridian is the answer.

What I've found is that any headphones with an answer call button works but I prefer using Meridian with my earbuds because if you go into the options and select "use headset buttons" you can get play/pause, skip and previous functions all from that one button by quickly double pressing for skip, pressing once then waiting a second before pressing again for previous and one press for play/pause. Works flawlessly with me and you don't have to worry about getting headphones with all 3 buttons since 1 button gets the job done.
[Vibrant Accessories] philly0429:
Hey do you know if there is a way of backing up a playlist and saving it on the SD card or computer? I hate going through and making a new playlist everytime I flash a new rom or something. Thanks man......and I use Meridian because of you. I ride a motorcycle everyday to work listening to music now. It's so easy to move between tracks with the Mic button. Thanks again.
[General Questions and Answers] oic0:
Ok I love smart phones but there is limited 3g coverage here and plenty of WiFi. Not to mention I consider the data fees to be asinine. I have happily been using my little made in china WM iPhone knockoff for a while. I'm quite fond browsing the web wherever, playing games, etc... Alas, it has been dropped many many times. The internal screw mounts are shot and the dust seal was never worth a crap so its never been pocketable. The touch screen isn't working so well now because of the loose fitment, and if I glue it together I wont be able to periodically clean the dust out. Sooo... I bought a nice used LG incite for $60.

I do not have a data plan on my china phone.

Now from what I've been reading online, if I pop my sim card in to the new phone ATT will try and rip me off for $180 a year. Is there any way around this? Does cursing them over the phone help? Would I go to jail if I cloned the ESN and IMEI of my chinese phone?
[General Questions and Answers] link5186:
I doubt you'd go to jail, but threatening to terminate your contract early might get a response. Especially if you're talking to a manager. If you're on a month by month basis that wouldn't work so well. It's a matter of math. A completed contract nets more money than a few months and an early termination fee. I deal with sprint, so I can't really tell you how ATT tells their managers to conduct business but I doubt it'd be much different. This is mostly opinion here so take it for what it's worth.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Yz450rider14:
Ok im running Froyo-Stone Sense v3.2 and I havn't had any problems with it till now,it's been running perfect otherwise,Now it doesn't want to connect to the internet for some reason.It says connection failed and I have tried toggling airplane mode,toggling wifi,etc.My APN settings are correct.Just not sure why all of a sudden it won't work.Any Ideas?Aside from that I am extremely satisfied with this build and I use it daily.:confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cpelatan:
Hi

i had the same issue with the internet in France & I changed the build.prop (under /system) to change to the right DNS addresses.

At the end of this file, i changed to 62.201.129.99 all of the ip adresses

I don't if it'll work for you but this is the only good fix which works 100%

Regards,

Christophe P.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Yz450rider14:
im not sure how to do what your talkin about.lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] cpelatan:
Follow this link

www . carson.alittlekitchen.com / changing-android-mobile-data-dns-server-settings
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
Quit opening new threads in the wrong section!
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] magellan77:
Hello,

I just received my Toshiba folio 100 with android 2.2. I'm trying to install 10.1 version of adobe flash since 2 hours but without success.

Has anyone already done it?

There's no Android Market on this device. I've downloaded the 10.1.95.2 apk file and installed it, but it froze my browser.

Any help would be welcomed.

Thanks,

Pedro
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] cmit37:
Sorry I can't help as I don't have one but when did they launch and where can you get one? How much?

How are you finding it? Would love to hear a review.
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Azure465:
It has Opera Mobile 10 doesn't it? would that version work for other phones as well?
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Paul22000:
Not that great, and not coming to the US either.
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] blackstoneuser5:
I can't seem to find anywhere this Toshiba Folio can be purchased yet, it's apparently supposed to be released October 2010 for £329.

A dump of that Opera Mobile should be interesting as it's not going to be out yet for Android publicly probably for a little bit longer. It's been shown off since February and here's a video on the Galaxy S. It's the same guy in both videos but his hair seems to have green since February in the latest one. :)

Are there any other reports of Opera Mobile being preloaded on any other device?

About the Adobe Flash though, the press release here [PDF] advertises it's Adobe Flash 10.1 trueness so I would assume it's pre-installed like on the Froyo Galaxy S update (albeit not the latest version, it's always updating being Flash and all).

If you're trying to install it from a provided APK and it's crashing maybe it's because the NVIDIA Tegra2 the tablet's supposed to have is a dual core chip and Adobe needs to provide a special version for it (don't trust me on this).
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] cmit37:
Currys in Croydon has one on display. I had a play with it and haven't been very impressed.

Good:

- Android 2.2

- We plugged in a USB keyboard and it worked instantly and the sales advisor said that a USB mouse worked just as well.

- The Toshiba file browser makes it easy to access the USB port and the SD card (Full sized SD slot I think)

- Has four buttons on the side but I like the fact that you have to press them deliberately to activate them rather than just accidentally brushing over them and closing your app like with my Galaxy S.

- Tegra 2

Bad:

- It looks really cheap and the LCD panel is like one of the cheapest netbook panels you can find on the market. The Galaxy Pad and the iPad were displayed next to it and they just made it look even cheaper

- Fonts don't look very smooth

- I couldn't get flash websites to play when just switched on. I found an apk of 10.1 and installed it however it started to crash the android browser. The sales assistant said that he would look into enabling flash. I'll check back in a few days to give flash on BBC iPlayer a go.

- Barely any apps installed by default. - I'd forgive the app problem in the case of the Vega due to the much lower price but is not forgiveable in the case of the Folio when it looks like a Asda's own brand electronic photo frame and it costs £330

- Swiping through the interface didn't feel any smoother than on my Galaxy S

If the Vega turns out to be a better quality product I will probably get it.
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Paul22000:
Where do you live that the Galaxy Pad is on display? What country / store?
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Dexter_nlb:
I got my Folio 100 today, and im looking forward to do some real nice modding here, and first get Market app working, as done on Eken M001, so that experience can easily help us here..

I know from my motorola and htc, that the flash player 10.1 you can download, does a model check, and is , as far as i know, only working on N1,desire,droid,milestone phones, maybe that check is no longer present..
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Dexter_nlb:
pricetag on it, is also for us in Denmark like 50% percent off almost.. so comparing to another galaxy pad or little cheaper ipad, im not sure you can expect LG lcd inside such a model, but ill see if the quality is acceptable.

most of them can be calibrated anyways, so if its a color issue, it can be fixed.

All this is without modding, lets just get the modding started, and ill think less of what Toshiba accomplished and look at others when their packs are in place.

? what exactly do you mean? i got Galaxy S, and if you already state its just as good, im looking forward to it :)

how can it be bad?
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] cmit37:
I live in UK
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] cmit37:
I don't know - I just expected the Tegra 2 Dual Core to just obliterate the single core CPU in the Galaxy S. I have no doubt that the Folio is a great platform to loads apps on I just expected a lot more of it considering it costs £130 more than the Advent Vega in the UK.

That said if someone gave me one I would sing it's praises :P

Have you gotten any good 3D games on it? I'd love to see how good the Tegra 2 is.

I think I saw an article today saying that Toshiba rushed to get the Folio out and didn't include Flash. It is or it should be downloadable from the Toshiba Market and the second batch due in Q1 2011 will have it installed by default.

On a side not I upgraded my Galaxy S to Froyo today and it is so cool playing all flash content, chrome2phone etc :)
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Dexter_nlb:
not yet, it has so far been more technical, and trying to root it, and get into recovery so i can somhow make a proper backup of the device before i start changing everything..

and no, i looked at the system partition right now, there is no flash apk's and no libs indicating any flash support.
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] kevin.hansen:
Toshiba is expecting to release flash for the FOLIO during next week (expected 10th). This should be available through Toshiba Market.

/Kevin (DK)
[Folio 100 Themes and Apps] Kangal:
Out of all the Android tablets the only 2 that shine is the Toshiba Folio 100 and the Advent Vega.

Why?

Well firstly they're both >8.8" so you get a generous dose of screen-estate and the form factor is still nimble/small. These could substitute for netbooks but 7" tablets cannot imho.

Secondly they're generous in they're offerings (BT, Wifi, HDMI, USB host, SD slot) and high-performance.

I live in Australia so we always get devices a little later than US/UK. So for me the availability does not matter as the transaction would occur through the internet.

I may be importing an Advent Vega or a Toshiba Folio 100 ... so I am eagerly waiting for reviews (none available yet, just Google'd).

What will be the general deciding factor would be:

1) Display.

We know that Froyo supports only upto 600p. We know both devices have 10.1" TFT screens, so I hope they've kept the gloss to a minimum.

We know Toshiba Folio 100 has a 600p display and the Advent Vega was leaked to have a 600p resolution. However, in a recent video (@3:20) the PR says videos play above 720p but below 1080p on the Vega. This implies 1366x768 resolution which would mean (once Gingerbread is ported) sharp graphics, no need to convert videos, possible to watch digital TV.

These are huge advantages over the Folio 100, but it could've been said accidentally and he may have meant to say "the device can playback more than 720p but less than 1080p content via videoOUT but not on the device screen". If this is the case its upsetting because Tegra2 is supposed to be able to smoothly playback 1080p video ... so this implies a performance bottleneck (most likely by a smaller 512Mb RAM, if not then a lack of drivers).

2) Performance.

I've already gotten into the subject; which one has more RAM? Both have the same Tegra2 SoC which is supposed to be blazing fast, but if it only had 512Mb RAM it would only be as fast as the current-highend (Galaxy S, Desire Z, Droid2). And would mean it might jitter at the performance-intensive applications we currently have, and one's we will have in the future.

3) Battery life.

We don't know the REAL battery life on either device, must wait for reviews.

4) General build/features.

They're pretty even as far as "hands-on" describes but the Toshiba is slightly ahead because it has an SD slot (cheaper cards) than Vega's microSD. Also the Toshiba has a removable battery which the Vega may not have (unknown at the moment). The Toshiba has 3G connectivity, which the Vega lacks but may get in 2011Q1.

5) Price.

Wait and see.

Currently I'm hooked on the Advent Vega (name reminds me of Vegeta) and the prospect of a 720p tablet. I don't care much for the price, if the Advent Vegeta really gets a 720p screen and 1GB RAM I would easily overlook its shortcomings (No Market, No 3G, microSD, nonremovable-battery, plastic build) I would be happy to pay in the iPad range

.... I will get Market hacked, MIUI loaded, tether (I've already got 2GB/month on my GalaxyS) hehehe :D