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[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
I didn't pay full price. I paid $199 under contract. And again, I didn't buy this phone PURELY FOR THE GPS. I bought it because it was cutting edge. It had ANDROID, it was fast, it was cool, and it wasn't a product from Apple. I love all of my Samsung phones deeply. I have never been displeased with any of them! My a727 was brilliant. Small, lightweight, and functional. My Blackjack had a great keyboard, had WinMo6, and had excellent battery life. My a877 was my favorite so far. A full slideout qwerty keyboard, touchscreen, great apps, hell even GPS before it was the "in" thing to do.

You're also talking about American companies which will be found liable by our court system for producing a faulty product. It's much easier to just appease us Americans before we sue the crap out of you and cost you more money. It also keeps the government out of your business. And yes, you're still at fault for buying a product, knowing it didn't work fully, and then keeping it without bothering to exchange it or get a phone that did work. When you wait on a large company for anything, you get screwed. You might as well work on a method to shove an entire banana in your ear and pull it out the other one in one piece. You'd get further.

Again, it's the same people posting over and over in those threads because they're overly vocal about their problem, and want attention and a fix. They're just like you. They didn't try to exchange their phone for one that works or a different phone entirely. You have nobody to blame but yourself for sitting there expecting something that isn't likely to come anyways.

Go buy yourself another phone. Sell your Captivate on eBay or whatever, recoop your money, and move on. Not to mention there was already another thread full of people whining and wanting to file a suit against Samsung. Posting in this thread and getting irritated at people telling you how to fix your problem isn't going to fix your phone, your attitude, or anything else for that matter. It's wasting your time and energy.
[Captivate General] z28james:
Right. All the reasons why you should have returned the phone within 30 days. The gps sucks and you kept it anyways.
[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
Can we please have a mod close this thread already? All it will do is lead to further argument and possible flaming.
[Captivate General] Drew489:
Lol, wow, I thought some of you could read. I kept the defective phone because I was waiting for the publicized fix. The fix did not work.

Regardless, thousands, possibly millions after further reading, are having the same problem.

Again, I hope to lie to some of you some day and sell you a broken product. No biggie I guess. Lol

Let me ask you this...again...would you be ok with wifi not working?
[Captivate General] Drew489:
Lol, mod....help! Someone disagrees with me and is using logic....help!
[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
Your logic is about as strong as a 9 year olds. Which is why I called for a close to this thread along with James.
[Captivate General] z28james:
If wifi didn't work, id take it back? What's your point? I would not keep it. See how that works? If wifi didn't work within 30 days I'd have an aria, probably.
[Captivate General] jaykishora:
I believe this is a hardware problem on a 'set' of phones. The thing is that most people start looking in forums when they have issues. The people with perfectly working phone usually don't do that. This gives an impression that the GPS problem is bigger than it actually may be.

I used to think that it is a fatal issues in all Captivate devices, but then I tried my neighbor's phone and it worked flawlessly. That being said, it still is extremely irresponsible of Samsung to not come out clean and be more proactive in fixing the problem and replacing the bad phones with good working ones.
[Captivate General] Drew489:
Yes, close it because people disagree. That's logical. Search Google for samsung gps problems. Those people are all stupid too...lol
[Captivate General] Drew489:
It's a huge issue...google it.
[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
Because they kept a faulty device like you did? Yes, they are.

If the GPS makes or breaks a phone for you, why the hell did you even bother to buy it, even with a "publicized" fix. You should have bought a phone that you knew worked out of the box and never looked back. Now you feel stupid because you don't have a fully working phone and have no "easy fix". Suck it up, sell the phone and get on with your life.
[Captivate General] jaykishora:
I am not denying it is an issue. I totally agree with you that there are lots of unit with broken GPS (including mine) and it is a huge issue for the folks with bad unit.

All I am trying to say is that there is no way to know the %age of faulty units out in the wild.
[Captivate General] Drew489:
So I sell as broken phone? That's ethical...or should I ebay it saying it has gps? Or if I advertise it with broken gps...how much do you think I will get?

So which....

Lie and don't mention the gps issues?

Or be truthful about the gps and lose more money?
[Captivate General] Krynn!:
Why keep the Captivate with a non-functional GPS?

1) Because it's the only Android phone worth a crap on AT&T, and your old phone just died.

2) The GPS isn't completely useless... well. ok. it's freakin close.

3) Samsung swears there's a GPS fix in the works.

4) GPS isn't a live-or-die function of the phone.

5) Samsung will eventually fix it... either that or get their ass handed to them in the courts.

I'm sure I could come up with more, but it's not worth the effort.

BTW, I'm now on my 4th Captivate. I know 7 other people with Captivates, most on their 2nd or 3rd (the OTA was a real killer). Every last one of 'em has a GPS that cannot be considered acceptable. My current phone is probably the best of the lot... it works acceptably if it's got a clear view of the sky. Get in a car with a metal roof though, and you can forget about it. It may report a 15m error, but it's more like a 50m error stationary and 100m error moving.

Oh, one last thing... Just because 2 people are whining about someone who's upset with Samsung when they're not doesn't mean a thread needs to be closed... And getting pissed off when that person points out that your logic has more holes in it that AT&T's network doesn't change the fact there's nothing wrong with someone stating their opinion (that the GPS sucks is actually more of a fact than opinion) and encouraging others to help them do something about it.

Have you reported your complaints yet? What are you waiting for?!?!?
[Captivate General] z28james:
People could do something about it. Take it back within your 30 days if it does not work upto your expectations.
[Captivate General] rbtconsultants:
This is what I am saying :-)

I do sympathize with Samsung in one way. If they come out and say that SOME phones have a hardware issue with GPS then every bozo with My Tracks showing them 3 feet off the sidewalk will be asking for a new phone, so they are trying to fix it with software first.

As far as waiting for the software fix and missing the 30 day window, BOO HOO to Drew. I have access to the interwebs also, and I read enough to realize that not all phones have the problem, so I exchanged mine rather than waiting for a software fix.

Drew - You claim that 75% of people have a problem with GPS, can you please provide a link? Yeah. I didn't think so.

Exchange the phone or sell it and buy an Ijunk. I don't care. I'm out of this thread. Bye.
[Captivate General] tblindt:
He was promised a fix and they released a patch that didn't work...now past 30 days and patch failed to work

...give drew a break and stop trolling. Enough said
[Captivate General] nr2134:
I purchased plenty of things on release day that did not function up to par, but they were fixed, eventually. Like anyone else, you get attached to what you like and if Samsung and ATT were promising a fix, I dont think you would find one person that would not wait for the fix, unless they really didnt like the phone. Its a normal human thing, but james seems to think that if something doesnt work 100% you should return it right of way.

I dont know what rock you have been living under, but most of the electronics driven by software, games and software itself have bugs on release. Its been this way for a while now. No one in their right mind thought that this would not be fixed by a company as large as Samsung, but so far it has not. Most people thought it would be a software fix and thats pretty normal, but I highly doubt that a hardware issue would cross anyone’s mind in this day and age.

You need a working GPS in the phone and it should be pretty hard to get that wrong. Well, at least it use to be.

Now james, you wont tell me that you return every device/software when it has a bug because that would make you a hypocrite and if you really do, that must lead to an interesting life returning everything you buy. Now unless you have something that really matters in this thread, I suggest go and troll somewhere else.

If it wasnt for people like drew, we all would own half functioning devices that never get fixed. Unfortunately, people have been getting shafted by large companies as of late and some keep asking for more. Weird.
[Captivate General] faroid:
You guys who are talking about doing research within the 30 days and returning it if you dont like it know better that the community was hoping and posting like crazy on forums about a fix that should be coming soon- that's what researching suggests. For this reason (and because I love my captivate) I did the same thing and didn't return it. People have the right to complain about bugs like this and if you want to close this thread because you're tired of such complaints then the forum would lose much of its credibility. Why do you take things personally? You don't have shares in Samsung or do you?
[Captivate General] Drew489:
Again, since no one wants to read or click a link, I will repeat myself for probably the 10th time in this thread alone.

GOOGLE THE PROBLEM. When places like CNET, Engadget and hundreds of other websites all have complaints about the Galaxy series GPS phones...it's more than an isolated incident.

For people telling me to return it within the 30 days, AGAIN (!!!!!), I was told there was a fix so I did not return it. THE FIX DID NOT WORK AND IT IS NOW AFTER 30 DAYS. NOW WHAT?

Christ.

Secondly, for people telling me to "suck it up" and sell it. That's cute. So, again, do I sell it on Ebay as:

1. Samsung Captivate, GPS does not work. Honest and truthful but I wouldn't get more than $200 or so for it.

2. Don't mention the GPS issue and get maybe $350 for it. Which perpetuate's the lie and gives someone else a headache. Unethical and immoral.

Regardless, what is a new out of phone smart phone going to cost me? $400 - $600? So I'm supposed to drop $200 - $300 more of my money into another phone because Samsung wont honor their product?

Again, sorry I am a broken record but...

For those telling me to sell it...which option should I do? I'm curious as to the responses...but I'm guessing there's too much logic for most of the naysayers to respond.

I had no idea this would be a flamefest. Honestly don't even know why people with working GPS would click into the original post. I sure as hell don't troll the forums for problems that I don't have. I don't click on the links of people who say their phone randomly shuts down and then tell them to suck it up. I stay out of it because I don't have any experience with it.

For those of you so butt-hurt that I'm pissed at Samsung...why?
[Captivate General] z28james:
Um....lol? I said that if something does not live up to your expectation, you either return it within the 30 days or deal with it. You don't keep it and complain. You deal with your choice. If some thing does not live up to what I expect and I can return it, I take it back. So unreasonable, huh? I never said I return EVERYTHING...i will return something that does not live upto my expectations. My gps sucks compared to my htc mogul, I chose to stick with this phone. CHOSE. Fully knowing its issues. I did not keep it knowing I was not satisfied and whine about it saying how I'm going to take samsung to court. The op again CHOSE to keep it knowing that the gps sucks. Now they wait for a fix. That's their choice. Att nor samsung bullied them into buying it yo begin with.

Apparenly, this makes me a hypocrite.
[Captivate General] Drew489:
So you're ok with Samsung still advertising their Galaxy phones with GPS knowing it doesn't work on a large percentage of their phones?

You're also OK paying for a device knowing a key feature (whether you use it or not, it's a major feature) does not work?

I am blown away by people's willingness to get screwed over.
[Captivate General] z28james:
Now you wait for a fix because that is what you CHOSE. THAT'S WHAT.
[Captivate General] Kanzeon:
It isn't fraudulent or illegal. Many of the units work fine. Those that don't work have frequently have merely an accuracy issue.

Samsung has put its reputation on the line with the Galaxy phones. It may have bad customer service or quality control, but the management of Samsung would certainly like to put this problem behind them.

It isn't illegal to sell a product with a design defect or spotty quality control. It probably can't be recalled unless there is a threat to public health. All the complaints would show is the truth - there are many phones that have poor tracking accuracy, although many other units work perfectly.

This isn't to justify Samsung's poor quality control or customer service deficiencies. It just isn't even remotely illegal. The attorney general of Texas and the FTC have plenty of work to do protecting the public. It serves no one to flood them with complaints about a cell phone's inaccurate GPS.
[Captivate General] Drew489:
lol, wowowowoow. Dude, they're selling a phone that is defective and lying about a solution.

I chose to not return it but IT SHOULD STILL F*CKING WORK AND/OR they should NOT be advertising it with a feature that does not exist.

Again, GOOGLE the f*cking thing. It's across their entire Galaxy line! It's not just the Captivate, it's all models of Galaxy across the WORLD.

I love capitalism, people like you will make me rich. I can sell you broken stuff and lie. Suuuuuweeet!
[Captivate General] z28james:
I never once said I was okay with it. Id love a spot on GPS. The point is you chose to wait it out. You had a shot to return it no questions asked. You decided to wait it out. That fine, Im in that group, dude. ive seen GPS in froyo, it locked in my house! Its better.

Dude, lets just agree to disagree but STILL agree that it IS crap that GPS is degraded and samsung should do something.

Personally, I think you had a shot to return it, did not. Thats what you (and I chose). Its our problem now. So, we wait.....Just realize that we really do not have alot of recourse unless we want refurbs that may not even work any better (I don't).
[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
We said do your research BEFORE you buy the phone.

What were tired of is him, and everyone else complaining about it their GPS. This isn't the first, or only Galaxy S phone with GPS problems. It wasn't a surprise that popped out of nowhere.

He had 30 days, of which he could have exchanged for a working one.

He could have exchanged his for one from Samsung when his 30 days were up.

He could have bought a phone that worked already.

Point is, Drew won't do anything about it because he's stubborn and proud, and wants that "easy fix" and blames Samsung for it all. Nobody held a knife or a gun to him and told him to buy this phone. He did it himself. There were solutions to his problem and he didn't go after any of them. Who can you blame that on?

It's a pointless argument to have at this point. You can either do something about it not. Just don't complain.
[Captivate General] Drew489:
Yes, it is fraudulent and illegal. Just like the FTC was getting involved with the Xbox's that were burning up constantly. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on what side you're on, the govt steps in on issues like misleading consumers. I've dealt with it quite a bit as a business owner. You gotta tread reaaalllly carefully when advertising products or services with a certain product, guarantee or anything in writing if the product doesn't function as advertised.

Trust me on that one. It's kind of a moot point but if Samsung was, somehow, a very small company (humor me for a second)...it wouldn't be out of the question for them to get shut down for stuff like this...BTDT.

Take a look at vitamin companies making false claims about their products and getting shut down or fined to the tune of millions of dollars.

And, I know this hard for people to understand with working GPS (both of you) but it's a much bigger problem than a few hundred people. GOOGLE IT. It's hard...I know but GOOGLE IT. Worldwide across all Samsung Galaxy phones.

And mine doesn't work for jack sh*t. I've tried all the tweaks (which also should not be needed to be done) and they don't work.
[Captivate General] Drew489:
I love this line, "What were tired of is him, and everyone else complaining about it their GPS."

Lol...that says it all right there. Stop complaining and take it up the butt...you expect to get what paid for? You silly little consumer! Me? I just compromise and will gladly take pay more for a broken product.
[Captivate General] z28james:
I actually paid a penny for my captivate on amazon. Works quite well for the price.
[Captivate General] Drew489:
So you're not in a 2 year contract for that penny price? I wouldn't be complaining either if I paid a penny w/o contract!

Definitely wouldn't be complaining but obviously you're in a 2 year contract. As the phone companies want us to believe...contracts mean nothing and it's what give us the great pricing. I'm fine with that since it subsidizes the true cost of the phone. Unlike in Europe where you just pay the full price but have no contract.

Guess what happens if you break your phone? You need to buy a new one w/o the contract pricing...what do you think that will run you? Or, if in a few months or a year, you want the latest greatest phone that has x-ray vision or something...you can't buy it unless you pay the full out of contract price.

I'm sure you know that but the penny isn't the real price, it's subsidized for your 2 year commitment.
[Captivate General] yourtvlies:
I was typing out a fairly long response to this thread, but rather than engage with those that are trolling, I just want to say:

+1 OP, for doing something constructive, and providing an avenue as to how to address the issue. I was thinking about how to put together an organized effort myself, but I think you've got a really good start on what ought to be done.

Personally, I'm going to see what happens with my GPS once an official Froyo build is out. If things aren't working properly at that point, I'll definitely be using the list on the top of the tread to submit official complaints.

Either way, Samsung's PR has been less than stellar with the issue.
[Captivate General] z28james:
I get a decent FAN discount so I carry insurance and still come out with a decent plan. I'll just pay the deductible at that point although I have never broken a cell phone and have had quite a few of them.
[Captivate General] Sqdnguns:
Interesting how so many are having issues with the GPS. I have not had this experience at all. I am currently in the NE of Thailand and the GPS is working fine, as well as when I was back in SoCal.
[Captivate General] mmarquis:
Oh please. That is widely recognized to be fiddling with A-GPS and network assist stuff.
[Captivate General] dressanderc:
I read up on this device since Engadget broke the story on it. I was the first one in my local AT&T store to go in and pick one up. Never once did I read anything about a God-awful GPS experience before everyone started picking up on it.
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Ok guys I was letting this thread go so people could vent their frustrations but it has gone way over board.

Thread closed
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twiz0r:
I am having a problem wiping my evo for some reason. I am running cm6 at the moment and am using clockwork recovery. when i choose to wipe/factory reset it says: no app2sd partition found. skipping format of /sd-ext. After it does this and i wipe dalvik and cache it boots me into cm6 like I just installed it. I have to login to google, etc.

Yesterday I didn't notice the error I was getting and thought everything worked ok. My phone lost power and I turned it back on connected to my charger and it booted back into cm6...but it was how I had it before I attempted to wipe the previous time. I didn't have to log back into google and all my apps and everything were there.

I feel like there is something easy that I am missing. What am I doing wrong?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n64kps:
I would try flashing RA Recovery and seeing if that makes a difference with the wiping. I'm running Fresh, not CM6, but I use both RA and Clockwork recoveries for different things. I've found that RA is much better with wiping especially.
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] LlabTooFeR:
Here Europe ROM for Mozart

http://www.multiupload.com/E9NE46JQ4D

DO NOT TRY TO FLASH THIS ROM FOR ANY OTHER DEVICE EXCEPT MOZART!

Enjoy!
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] Seven_PRX:
Why put this on the Trophy forum??
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] pulser_g2:
Moved to Mozart WP7 development
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] Mino82:
it's a new update?

coming to copy/paste?
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] dovid:
B"H

Thanks for posting the Roms, as usual.

Is anybody working on a HARDSPL solution so we can actually flash these ROMS onto our Telstra Branded Mozart?

Thanks
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] Ca5c4d3:
ROM Changes

Anyone know what's new?
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] phil_rouge:
I tryed this ROM on my Mozart by Orange but I have an error message :

ERROR [294] : INVALID VENDER ID

:mad:
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] raupe:
... faced the same problem.

Has anyone an idea how to skip cid check or how to modify and sign the nbh with an other cid? (in my case TMO Germany)?

Greetings Ralf
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] Mateo97120:
I've got the same mistake on my french Orange Mozart. Hoping a solution soon ! :)
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] kittyc4t:
A changelog would be appreciated
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] nikolav:
I tryed this ROM on my Mozart:

ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY

I get an Error mesage of (296) upgrade only and it says The NBF file cannot be used for your phone, please get a newer NBF file. Can anyone help me out without me having to bake my phone? Any answers would be great!"

In about phone is PD67100
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] redesignni:
Im also geting the Invalid Vendor ID
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] Heph:
has anyone tried flashing this rom again after applying the ChevronWP7 hack?

Does it "fix" the vendor id issue?

Alex
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] djfuego:
Vendor ID

If the file is signed then you won't be able to modify the vendor code manually with a hex edit. Have to wait for someone to find an exploit and use this to force the flash.
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] zetagnosis:
+1 invalid vendor id
[7 Mozart Windows Phone 7 Development] LordMayros:
TMO mozart ınvalid vendor ID :(:(:(

NO ID RUU ????
[Captivate Themes and Apps] d1g1talphyre:
Stumbled across this nice little app called "Itching Thumb" (Link goes to android zoom for overview http://tinyurl.com/29p9g8x)

It is a task manager that looks like the "card view" that some maybe familiar with from Palm.

It looks nice, runs smooth. been installed for a couple hours, no FC's. Thought others would like to know of this. :)
[Captivate Themes and Apps] InsaneJester17:
I tried this and really liked it. The one thing I couldn't stand was when you hit home from any app, it would take an extra second or two and show a black screen in order to create the screenshot for Itching Thumb. Annoying.