yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Legend General] BlaY0:
Sure they won't... they are not dumb to have support for devices that are more than 2 years old. Why would they... they release at least 10 devices per year. Their priority is to support most profitable devices at any moment.

What they could and should do is to release specs for hardware in such old devices so community would be able to "support" those if there is a will.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ezcape:
Everyone knows the Mytouch HD is coming out soon, but been really taking a toll on me. Stay with my G2 or sell it and get the MTHD. I love my G2 don't get me wrong. The main reason of thinking about getting the phone is the front face camera. So I would be able to Skype with my girlfriend whenever she moves to florida. What would be your reasons to stay with the G2 or get the MTHD.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ostinq:
I am torn in the same way. G2 or mytouch, I guess it will depend on root. Mytouch has a lot of crap I don't want, sense, kids zone... Would be great to run stock. Don't really care about the FFC, I am sure I would never use it, I hate taking phone calls, why would I need to see the person?
[G2 and Desire Z General] SeReaction:
The decision is ultimately up to you.

My opinion is that if you value your GF, and the time you spend with her, more than your phone, go for it. List your pros and cons of each and make your decision.

Good luck there.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mdayjr:
I would stay with the G2 simply because it just came out. I would like to make an advice, wait and see what the device does before JUMPING all over this thing. Front facing camera? Cant use that unless you are on 4g or wifi. Today it's useless.

2011 it will start to be a big trend merely because all the 4g networks are going in to place. And if you don't live in a city,well,that front facing camera is definitely useless. Are you a gamer? Who needs a duo core processor in a phone?
[G2 and Desire Z General] innerlight:
I think the g2 has a front face camera. Look at the top left of the screen. Could that be a camera?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Vandam500:
Almost every modern phone has that, its the sensors (Proximity, Ambient Light,etc). How can a phone have a "secret" front facing camera...rofl
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonathan3579:
Espresso aside, the specs are better on the myTouch HD/4G. (Well that's unless you absolutely need a keyboard...) The ROM port for the Nexus has had reports of sheer speed much like the G2. (There's a kicker...) My one and only problem with the new myTouch is the blocks around the apps. I could care less about everything else because I actually happen to enjoy Sense and their new fastboot as well. Included on the new myTouch. ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] nabzilla1990:
both will have crazy root locks i say get rid of ur g2 asap and grab a nexus still the best phone on the market this root stuff is completely bogus we buy a phone and we cant even customize it i paid 530 for this should have returned it when i could getting a nexus tomorrow yeah mytouch 4g has a front facing camera and processor a little bit better is that enough to move to a phone with not perm rooot heeeeeeeeeeeeeel nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[G2 and Desire Z General] enculturation:
I'm still within my 14 day period on my G2. I've been seriously thinking about sending it back, and waiting for the Mytouch HD. However, I was just looking at pictures of it on Facebook. And all of my memories of the Slide came back. The phone looks less sturdy and more "toyish" than the G2. It's got a very plastic look to it. It's not going to be running "stock" Android... etc... The build quality was not that great on the Slide. I'm going to stick with the G2. It's got it's issues, but overall in my opinion it's the better device.
[G2 and Desire Z General] atlp99:
Im sticking with the G2 (probably)

I work for T-Mobile and am getting a MyTouch HD free as part of my position at my store (MyTouch Champion) the same way I got the MyTouch Slide I was using before ordering the G2. I prefer the Vanilla Android software on the G2 over the Espresso Sense software on the MyTouch.

This is mostly a personal preference, and I don't mind Sense I just prefer Vanilla Android. Overall I would think the day to day performance between the G2 and the Mytouch HD will be equal. The Mytouch HD will likely benchmark a little faster since they basically have the same processor with the G2 clocked at 800Mhz and the Mytouch HD at 1Ghz.

Overall pick the one you like. I think they will both be nice. I'll post back when I get the Mytouch HD and have some hands on time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] drumsforjs:
I just got my g2 today coming from a vibrant. And something I noticed right off the back is that there's no lag. I would probably just stick to my g2 but idk about the mythouch hd whatever is going to be called looks good reminds me somewhat of the nexus.
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
I'm noticing that the LED flashes only some of the time for things like Twitter and SMS. The notification bar has the update on it but the LED seems to not want to play ball.

Has anyone else experienced this or similar? I know the LED works because it shows when charging and when the battery was low it flashed. Specifically I use Touiteur and had the LED set to blue but even on the standard green it's hit and miss.
[Desire HD General] kingkobra74:
Mine doesn't flash when I get email, but seems to work for SMS or missed calls.
[Desire HD General] Alize:
I was hoping someone would make a thread about this, I never got around to making one!

Mine flashes for everything which is annoying!!! I get a lot of emails so is constantly flashing! I've tried going into Settings -> Display -> Notifications and deselecting everything except Missed Calls and SMS/MMS but made no difference!
[Desire HD General] FernandoMiguel:
i'm so used to Magic 8 colors... shame DHD has only orange and green :(

also it somehow tends to turn it off after a while being on.
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
I've sent an email to HTC to ask about it since it's a big issue to me. Notification sounds feel similarly hit and miss so I'm suspecting some trigger is being missed, possibly due to the new Sense UI. I'll post any reply I get.
[Desire HD General] lefty83:
I've got two led's. One for the battery on the right of the speaker and one on the left behind the speaker. The left one is for notifications only n I must say I'm disappointed as its located being the speakers its not as visible as I would like it to be. Is there anyway to get the battery led to function as a notification led as its not covered so much more visible?
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
I've got a reply but nothing helpful. So far it seems they're willing to blame app compatibility. I've asked for information regarding any changes that have been made to the LED notification system on the Desire HD and now I wait for another reply.

I told them I had no such issues on two other Android phones and they seem to be implying that the apps are coded for specific phones when we all know apps are coded for an SDK version. To quote the part of the reply...

"All the functions/programs you mean are made for Nexus and G1/Dream most of the times, Desire and some other are similar enough for it to work. Cannot help you with third party software."

Pretty clear the guy doesn't have a clue about this so I'm hoping if I nag long enough he'll pass me on to someone with more knowledge.
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
I see two LEDs up top but charging uses the same LED as the notification system. The left one behind the grill. I haven't seen the second one light so it's probably the proximity sensor.
[Desire HD General] FernandoMiguel:
i only see one led too (with two colors).

Dyonas tel HTC that even GMail (2.2 app) acts like that... and gmail.apk 2.2 aint made for g1!
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
Another really pointless reply from them.. in the initial contact I mentioned the camera being misaligned so that's what the first part is referring to. Here's the latest reply and below it is how I have just responded.

Response to it from me..

To me this is a very big deal because if you leave the phone for a few minutes and aren't close enough to hear an audio notification the LED is what I rely on. Missing notifications like this I might expect from a custom ROM but I haven't touched the phone in any way like that. I didn't see your reply in time to mention the GMail issue and I only have my experience to go on which is Twitter updates not always firing. You should raise a ticked too, the more we get raising the issue the better the chance they'll look into it.
[Desire HD General] FernandoMiguel:
i stop sending tickets to HTC last year... they never fix anything.

I rather find a perm root and put CM onto it!
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
Their latest and seemingly final reply seems to have something that may point to an answer. Unfortunately I lack the knowledge to check if it is of any use. The guy suggested any changes would be in the Kernel and linked me to the source code area. Is anyone able to look into the source code and see if there are changes to the notification LED system for the DHD? It's pointless not useful to ask app developers to look into it until we have something concrete to point at as a cause.
[Desire HD General] FernandoMiguel:
can you leave the code sample, please?

thanks
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
The source code? It's available on http://developer.htc.com to download.
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
I asked Cyanogen about this and he thinks the lights driver he wrote for the G2 may work.

Being a basic user I have no idea how to try that out without instructions so... I've done the fact finding, who's going to help with this part? :)
[Desire HD General] PJTOUCHHD:
My email LED notification has not been working properly, sometimes yes but mostly no.

Got email mid morning today, sound and LED worked. Left it in this state for several hours still okay. Just got another sound notification for the same previous email, how does that work:confused:

Think this is yet another bug....
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
I've now had this happen with the GMAIL app so I'm bugging them some more.

Would there be any point in posting in the development section to ask for help using the G2 lights driver from Cyanogen?
[Desire HD General] PJTOUCHHD:
I've also had GMail fail on LED notification and SMS! It seems to be random now. Coming from a WM6.5 defector I quietly smile to myself:rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
I think I figured it out and if im right it's really stupid. I had two notifications earlier, one for Twitter and the other for e-mail (not gmail). The LED wasn't flashing for either. I opened Touiteur to view the updates thete which cleared that notification and straight away the LED began flashing for the e-mail alert.

Why one notification would disable the LED if it's already on I have no idea but the above has happened more than once now. There's an LED test on the phone which HTC had me test. It has other tests too for anyone curious.

Key this into the dialer.

*#*#DIAG#*#*
[Desire HD General] ASV25:
Where can i find the test for the LED? Mine doesnt seem to flash for any alerts.
[Desire HD General] bobbyelliott:
No notifcation for my SMS (text messages) on my phone. Clearly a software problem that HTC should deal with.
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
Read my post directly above yours..
[Desire HD General] olivierlee:
Just a question. Have you guys noticed that the LED flashes less frequently when the profile is in Silent and you get a notification (e.g. sms or email) ? Is this normal?
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
I can't comment on that because I haven't used Silent yet. Unusually I haven't been given the normal brush off by HTC since they asked me to run the LED diagnostic. Still waiting for progress though.
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
Good news everyone!

In the Futurama voice of Dr Farnsworth... Good News everyone! I hadn't received a reply for a while until this morning when I opened up my e-mail and had this little bit of joy waiting for me.

It might not be an instant fix but at least they're looking into it now!

On a similar note, is there any way to find out how many colours the LED can flash? The only colours I've seen so far are green, orange and red.
[Desire HD General] apsis:
I tried several Apps from the Market, to change LED Notification Colours, but they wont work. They even dont change to "red" or "orange" where we know that they do work. I dont have much knowledge about android phones, but i guess we may need full-root to access the LED-Settings.

Would it also be possible to flash the Touchbuttons on the bottom if a Message is received?
[Desire HD General] BigMango:
Strange, I always get the green led flashing when an new sms arrives.
[Desire HD General] fawaad:
I thought I was the only one having this issue.

The LED notification is a hit and miss. As for now, I can't rely on it.

Hopefully HTC fixes this. I am still waiting for the OTA update that resolves proximity issue.
[Desire HD General] hoss_n2:
also on Dhd roms on hd2 the leds works random ,i think it is an issue in Dhd rom
[Desire HD General] Morak75:
I'm having a LED issue too.

Am I the only one with Battery LED problem ?

I mean, when I recharge my battery, the two first cycles have last 12hours then I get a green LED.

So for my third cycle, I recharge it with my phone turned on.

1 hour later : battery 70%.

2 hours later : battery seems to be full (100% in parameters). But the LED is still orange/red.

So I'm guessing there is a LED issue right ?

EDIT : 3 hours later : LED green! So it is better than the two previous green LED (in 12h), but still a bit wrong function.
[Desire HD General] Boysa22:
I too have LED notification problem.

Sometimes it works, sometime not working. When it works, it flashes for about 5 minutes and then stops. Pretty useless in this way.
[Desire HD General] FernandoMiguel:
this is only a software prob.

i've flashed CM into mine, and led works fine (abit only one color :( )
[Desire HD General] LittleMerc:
Mine was stock, but LED responded to all emails, sms and misscalls... PErfect!
[Desire HD General] Boysa22:
It responds, but for how long. Have you tried leaving it for an hour and see if the LED is still flashing?
[Desire HD General] olivierlee:
The LED flashed for only 5 minutes, and this is the normal behaviour.
[Desire HD General] FernandoMiguel:
your definition of "normal" is very different of mine, specially for a notification operation
[Desire HD General] LittleMerc:
Yes, notification should be long enough for you to notice it to serve its purpose, but again when the LED is blinking, it is draining juice. This is why usually it blinks for a certain period of time and stops. Its kind of weird when people wants juice AND function at the same time, which is absolutely impossible... Where can you find a horse that can run, and doesn't need to be fed with grass at the same time?
[Desire HD General] FernandoMiguel:
iI do understand what you mean, but we both know the led doesn't use that much power, and is a requirement for many of us to get notified.

the alternative is to wake up the phone often which I sure uses much more energy.

plus any device made till today with leds had no prob with it
[Desire HD General] Boysa22:
I think the same way. It should flash until you see it and wake up the phone. Otherwise I have to check my phone every 10 or 15 minutes and the notification LED becomes useless this way. Compared to the screen, a blinking LED drains almost nothing. :)

EDIT: I found a solution to my problem. I downloaded Missed Reminder from the market. With this you can set the blinking interval and for how long. So it is blinking forever now :)
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
The worst part of this issue for me comes when I get a second notification. When that happens it turns the LED off.

It's like the first turns it on as it should (sometimes and then only for a limited time) then along comes a new notification and it tells the LED to change state without checking the current state. I'm still waiting for this and a few other bugs to be fixed in FroYo but I imagine they'll be ignored in favour of putting out Gingerbread with the fixes hopefully in there.
[Desire HD General] Beamen1:
Any updates on this? Any app you can download so that notification LED flashed more than 5 min?
[Desire HD General] DiGWeeD2:
I have the same problem, LED notification works when it want, totally random
[Desire HD General] Beamen1:
I found a nice app: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=837057
[Desire HD General] Dyonas:
I've still got an open ticket with HTC over this, it was there before the 1.72 update, still there and there were no fixes in 1.72 for it. I've asked them about it but they just fob me off by telling me they have no new information. This, coupled with the chassis alignment problems and to a lesser extent, for me anyway, battery life have turned an awesome phone into an average phone that looks better on paper in specs list. I still love my DHD and there isn't anything out right now that I'd swap it for but it could have been so much better.
[Desire HD General] cargo71:
Sorry.., I dont understand from this topic: is in DHD RGB LED or 2collorred LED only? Default using is only green and orange, no 3rd party apps cannot change collor (desire can). Is this possibile by rooting DHD and use custom ROM i.e. CM, LeeDroid, etc,or it is not possibile on DHD? Thnx for answers...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisman99:
is there a good combination that boots android everytime and doesnt die at any point?

using wonmo rom 1.66.405.2

radio 2.11.50.20

and froyostone 3.2

unfortunatly android only boots about 1 time out of 10, why tho?

sometimes boot, sometimes blue screen, sometimes black screen with green htc sometimes resets?

anyone else having this problem but once it boots it works great apart from sometimes dying sod or freeze when i plug in the charger.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dragonovus:
i'm using

windows rom: 1.66.404.1

radio: 2.12.50.02_2

my androids boots always.. but there are a few connection drops but it's ok ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] funking:
Mine using Omega WWE v16?? forgotten, radio 2.15.50.xxxx, and Madeejay eVo v1.7, always work except sometimes crash com.android.phone while the system still runs. Just download v2.2 yesterday and while waiting the startup, found v2.3 is out!

Anywa, the v2.2 starts andnow going to check it up.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] murgers:
Check my sig. This combo has NEVER failed on me...

also read this

You have to deal with the lack of Camera in DesireHD ROM though...For Now!

Murg
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisman99:
cheers i'll try that. didnt really wanna start changing my windows rom as well but looks like im gonna have to give it a go as i've tried just about all the radios and numerous android bulids takes about 10 attempts to start up. then if it freezes gotta go through it all again

heard the chunky rom works well with it?

is there any onther settings in windows or android that that need to be on or off for it to work better?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jahulath:
Check my sig - this is a very stable build, I have no issues other than occasionally flaky mobile data connection!

I have found that a fuller WinMo ROM works better for android - I had trouble with some of the "stripped out for Android" ROMs available. Artemis is a high performance ROM with all features, if anyone knows of a more bleading edge ROM I would like to know!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stanleyrw:
Been using my combo since the beginning. OzDroid has been nothin but excellent. Hyperdroid is, in my opinion, the best build out there.

No problems whatsoever.

Data is strong. Bluetooth is working. This is my everyday setup. Only time I see WinMo is when I update files or whatnot.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisman99:
On the energy rom and does seem better but still not get a boot everytime. ive tried mdeejay hd and i like it but still not booting up everytime and had a few sod when charging.

hyperdroid has seemed to be the most consistent for me but is there a desire sense version or theme for it or something?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Gihanfx:
check my sig, so far so good
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] t1h5ta3:
my setup works flawlessly.

my first try tho i thought it locked up on initial setup, so i pulled the batt. when i rebooted i ran logcat to see what whas happening, turns out i pulled batt while it was setting audio , i wiped my sdcard and started over.

this time i waited a few min for it to set up the kernel etc, once that was done i conected thru adb and watched the logcat for errors etc. once it calmed down ( about 20 min) then i proceded to log in, set up my google account. once that calmed down i rebooted, loged into the market and lodded my apps etc.... all good.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zmoboss:
VBN reloaded 2 minimal winmo.

MDEEJAY rEVOlution 2.0

Radio 2.0.12

Consistent 7mA idle.

Battery lasts whole day normal use (5 phone calls, 30 sms, auto email sync on 4 accts. - about 150 emails..30 mins internet) . No freeze, no SOD. Kow :)

Z
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TriniKing_CE:
Exactly how do you find out what version of ROM, Radio etc. are on your phone? :o
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chrisman99:
still suffering some SOD what tips are there to minmise this? like i head taking off auto lock or something in windows helps? and some other screen settings?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] t1h5ta3:
another side note, if it fails to load intermitently, im going to bet that the data on the sdcard is corupt. copy the files off it, format it, then copy back on.

if that does not work, format it wiping every thing and start from scratch.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hutc:
Best combo

I think if you use the latest tmobile us build 3 14 501 with radio 2 15 50 04, these are my results for two days

the froyo builds with nexus kernel fail miserably,lot of things go haywire or work slowly, wifi slow ,camera flash gets stuck,sods with brightness,apps work slowly,consume battery more

but with the above wm 6 rom with the same radio htc sense builds like

mdeejay rock and they are fast as lightning,everything works smooth

with the above wm6rom build and radio ,on both build types(froyo and evo) there is no robo voice

this i tried even after i flashed the new stock rom it didnot disable my hspl 3 which i had installed earlier.htc sense build worked with it fine.

However i was slightly scared about the new t mobile rom with regard to nexus kernels and i reverted back to energy leo oct 25 build with radio 2 10 50 26 which is awesome.i reinstalled mdeejay evo stock rom which is awesome fast and blazing with some minimal echo still, it works better with the energy rom and radio 2 10 50 26 this is my daily android phone build i use.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hutc:
My current build test

Currently as i stated above my build is mdeejay evo stock 1.1 with r8 hastarin kernel , energy rom oct 25 and radio 2 10 50 26

for all users i recommend using us hd2 rom builds as there is something different between the two hd2 makes us and non us

as i flashed a non us build 3 14 core wm 6 rom and it did bad things to my android froyo hd 3, mdeejay buildss, so i reverted back to energy roms and now with radio 2 10 50 26 its my daily build with excellent working status (battery at the end of day with no wifi or data is 85%)

i have another micro sd card it has miui build from mcm joon mccm se 3 with hastrarin r 8 kernel which is working awesome with my build but the battery consumption is too much about 4%/hr, i dont know why the nexus based builds consume so much battery. I will work on it this weekend

my defaut micro sd card is 16 gb i got with hd2 it has the mdeejay build ,miui build is on the kingston 8 gb class 4 card.