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[HD2 Android SD Development] Topcheese:
Before I catch any flak for this, I'm just gonna say that this is what works for me. With that being said, I have the system panel end-all widget installed and I have to tap it a couple of times before suspending the phone. After doing that I get back to ~5ma draw on suspend.

My take on the whole thing is that there are too many variables to take into account and I think that with all things being equal, the only major problem would be the actual SD card used, and the extra software that we install and use that would cause problems. As the builds get better, I think that we tend to use them more and more, so these problems are starting to show.

Another example I would like to highlight is on data disconnects. We know that the connection can vary by room, by spot, or by day. Bad connections leads to errors, and buffers filling up fast. It's the nature of the beast. Throw streaming media in mixed with 3rd party software, and we have what we have now.

These are my suggestions of things to track to help quickly narrow down these problems.

1. SD card - Brand and type

2. Install method - copied data.img or fresh install

3. Virgin build - nothing installed or installed and/or used TB

4. Daily Usage - Light use or heavy use and streaming.

I have to run, but I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but these are the things that come to mind when I see some of these problems posted. I'm also sorry if I'm out of place and offending somebody by making such suggestions with a long winded post. Thanks to everybody on this site for what you do.
[HD2 Android SD Development] ChrisTran206:
Using the newest HD build and had issues with a 1GB data.img and switched to a 4Gb data.img. Still laggy but not as much. I do have a problem though, every time I try and read a SMS message, I get a "Storage Full" error and it says I need to release 2560KB of data. I have deleted apps, and nothing happens. I can install apps from the marketplace just fine though.

I have used a pre-made 4Gb image, I have used the utility to expand a 1GB to a 4GB but i get the same issue.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Bill R:
I'd like to suggest splitting the two "Topia" threads. one for the original line and one for the HD line. It would make posts much less confusing.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Wickster:
It might be that your SMS messages or previous SMS messages are stored in your SIM card. If they are, try deleting them off you SIM or importing them to your card instead. And I'm sure there is a setting somewhere that it should head straight to your card instead of your SIM.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Wickster:
BTW. I'm pretty much new here...so I wanted to ask. How do you use a different kernel (MDJ's 7.7HD for example) on to this build? Thanks in advance.
[HD2 Android SD Development] ceo4eva:
Download the files for the Mdeejay kernel, copy and paste them into your Android folder.

Those people using the HD builds, if you have the T-mobile apps working, how do you get them working?

I was told they work <.<
[HD2 Android SD Development] wolfpack612:
I had to delete myaccount.apk from system/apps and reinstall from market.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Wickster:
Thank you very much...I wonder if the next Topia revision will use the newest Kernel anyway. It might be a waste of time for me to start downloading and installing it if it is included on the next build.

Anybody tried the Gingerbread keyboard skin yet? Looks interesting. Anyway, back to testing this build. Awesome work cmy!
[HD2 Android SD Development] nymikey:
maybe my eyes are paying with me or some thing,but i cannot find MDJ S7.7 HD. CAN SOMEBODY POST LINK? THANKS IN ADVANCE.:) never mind-found it!!!
[HD2 Android SD Development] apallohadas:
Before continuing down that path of 'it's the sd card!', no.

Just no, no, and no.

I've used: 16 gb class 2, 4, and 6, a class 2 8 gb, and now a class 2 (speeds testing closer to class 4), 32gb card.

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.

You will see a difference in loading media on to the card and when android FIRST boots, other than that there are no SD demons that inhabit certain brands or classes of cards.

In another thread a user pointed out that even if it's higher than a class 2 card, our phones will only access it as fast as a class 2 either way.

It looks like the vast majority of problems are compatibility issues, bad install methods, or something as simple as not adjusting the startup file to point to the android folder.
[HD2 Android SD Development] truckerdewd:
My eyes must be doing the same cause I can't find it. Where did you find it?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Wickster:
Here yah go:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9688564&postcount=2176
[HD2 Android SD Development] jayton:
I just made the jump to beta 2 yesterday and loved it, a little laggy but no big....but I just switched to the MDJ 7.7 and it just got SUPER snappy....just FYI and I'm still using the original data image. This build is simply amazing!!

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[HD2 Android SD Development] ceo4eva:
Hey I tried what you said and it still won't work

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[HD2 Android SD Development] dbsportsbrit:
Yes they do i did not have to add or take anything off the apn it worked fine sending video as well
[HD2 Android SD Development] wolfpack612:
hmmmm?...sucks.

well i remember deleting it, then did a hot restart because it wouldn't let me install it again, after the hot restart i installed it from the market, and it has been working for me.
[HD2 Android SD Development] cecilycan:
I like the splash and im downloading now... but I was wondering i know alot of guys have this phone but would it be to much if someone could come out with a nice pink theme for the ladies... please let me know and i love testing new builds let me know if you have anything new email me pls.. cecilycan@gmail.com ty
[HD2 Android SD Development] craig540:
I have searched and can not find S7.7 , can you link me to it please.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Pandemoniumone:
Check the previous page bro ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] craig540:
Got it. I think this forum has the worst search ever. And to have to wait between searches sucks.

I just did a search for MDJ S7.7 HD in this thread and no results, am I doing something wrong. Believe me I would never ask if the search worked for me.
[HD2 Android SD Development] lbhocky19:
i dont know what happened but suddenly my wifi has an error? i cant even turn it on it just says error. tried restarting, just switched kernels as well to 7.7. soo any idea if theres a fix without a hard reset?
[HD2 Android SD Development] truckerdewd:
It's on MDejays kernel 7.6hd thread on page 218

Here's the link:

MDJ_S7.7HD_OC1500_UV1000_SMART_CIFS-CFS

http://www.multiupload.com/BQJQRAJTK0
[HD2 Android SD Development] jayton:
One page back there is a link. Just dl it an put it in your Android folder...made all the difference for me!

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[HD2 Android SD Development] apallohadas:
Did you move the folder that says 'root' into the android folder?
[HD2 Android SD Development] lbhocky19:
nope. i guess i should have ? haha ok giving it a shot thanks.

edit- didnt help. it should be copied to same folder as zimage right?

then did a restart. still error
[HD2 Android SD Development] babyfacedkayos:
not on all units... CMYLXGOs.Droid.BlueTopia.v1.0.3.7z mixed w/ Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.MaxSense.Sep.18.7z, w/ a lil Radio_2_15_50_14.rar for seasoning... LOL

MMS isnt that important to me, but none the less, it still doesnt work. (actually its the only function that doesnt work flawlessly. otherwise this is the 1st build i would be willing to FLASH 2 my nand if i could.)

good work sir
[HD2 Android SD Development] apallohadas:
Ok, the zimage and the FOLDER called root should be in the android folder.
[HD2 Android SD Development] nick2k:
not recognized as a USB drive in cars like MINI/BMW

rom is great so far. no complaints.

but there is an issue that i noticed: normally (with just a WinMo OS) when i plug my phone into the car (Mini Cooper), it'll read the media (MP3s) off my phone as if it were a USB drive. sadly it no longer does that with this Android rom on the phone.

i also tried it in a 2011 3-series BMW. the phone is still not being recognized as a USB drive.

anyone else having this issue? i tried searching for this problem (via forum search and google), but to no avail. :confused:
[HD2 Android SD Development] lbhocky19:
Ah. It works. I had only hot rebooted. Full reboot has wifi working
[HD2 Android SD Development] firemusicradio:
Hi everyone.... have a quick question, since i installed, everything works fine but the screen keeps getting froze in standby and i cannot wake up unless I hit the power button several times (like 10-20 times). Is this happening to anyone else, is there a fix for this?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Pandemoniumone:
Need more information on your installation and setup before an answer can be given.

I've never had the issue you've described on any of the Android builds to date. My method has always been to never use my old data.img and I never use any backup/restore app (TB).
[HD2 Android SD Development] dubie76:
FYI,

MDJ 7.9HD has been released in his kernel thread.
[HD2 Android SD Development] crisisinthecity:
I pulled the battery thinking the phone was off once and it caused my phone to start randomly restarting after that...

All I had to do was replace my Android folder with the one from a fresh build. I also copied my data file over to it. Random restarts stopped. Completely like it never happened.

My guess was that some files were copying to the card when I pulled the battery and it corrupted something. Haven't had a random restart since I copied the fresh Android build folder over...
[HD2 Android SD Development] nymikey:
i only see MDJ 7.9CM, WHERE IS HD?
[HD2 Android SD Development] dubie76:
My mistake, 7.9 CM
[HD2 Android SD Development] Pandemoniumone:
As you seem to be continually testing the new kernels I was hoping to hear your thoughts on Hastarin's r8.5.3, if you've tried it that is.
[HD2 Android SD Development] ahennin4:
Hello everyone,

I just wanted to express my love for this Build, it is great!

I have been watching this thread for some time now and I have been working on a few things on my own HD2. My goal is to make this an everyday build for myself, as well as getting about 24-48 HOURS battery life with normal use.

One thing that i instantly noticed, the HD2 has a smaller battery for this large of a phone.

The iPhone 3GS, Nexus One, HTC Diamond, HTC Touch Pro 2, all have bigger batteries then the HD2. Why its small no one knows. I also ordered an extra battery and i'll let you know if aftermarket batteries have any issues with this build (because i have heard that android on HD2 does not like other batteries).

Anyways my testing has included changing some of the basic setting from the normal menu, then also getting a little bit more advanced and actually using SetCPU to change some of the setting on the processor to achieve the best CPU management.

My Nexus One under "battery use" would show the Display using the most battery, but with this build on my HD2, "Cell Standby" "Phone idle" and "Android system" have been using the most of my battery consumption. I'm trying to use SetCPU setting to change this and achieve incredible battery life.

So far i have been able to achieve a constant 5ma (Using currentwidget) battery life on standby.

MY GOAL

Achieve 1% per hour battery standby, about 24-48 hours of battery life (depending on usage).

Which I am already pretty close!!! (Further testing is needed)

If your interested keep in touch and i will post ALL settings so you can achieve the same.

Cheers,

Alexander
[HD2 Android SD Development] dubie76:
I haven't been testing hasterins. When the builds were switched over to MDJ kernels, I did try Hasterins a few times and had issues so I have just stuck with MDJ kernels. It has been a while since I have tested Hasterins. Well before the HD builds. Sorry.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Pandemoniumone:
No problem, thanks for your response. That's pretty much my experience as well and was just wondering if others were seeing the same thing, thanks for confirming :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kaiceman:
Very clean. I'm glad you added the feature to select our ringtones! Wonder if you could do the same feature for Notifications as well? Thanks and enjoy a few on me!
[HD2 Android SD Development] apallohadas:
You can get 5 mA without using setcpu. You've said this exact post in two threads and its not really ground breaking.
[HD2 Android SD Development] ahennin4:
I did not say it because it was ground breaking, im just trying to help people get better battery life with this great Build. I have heard people talking about not so great battery life, im just trying to help them out.

As far as posting in two forums, SuperSport asked me to thank cmylxgo for his build. So i donated to cmylxgo, and included this post in this thread so people who are following this thread can use the settings to get better battery life as well.

Now is that going to be a problem :cool:
[HD2 Android SD Development] jkm601:
I would certainly be interested in these battery saving tips!
[HD2 Android SD Development] tigerz0202:
i tested out mdj 7.9 all day ,seems like lag has returned , aggravating really , im going back to hastarain 8.5.3
[HD2 Android SD Development] apallohadas:
I don't know. Are you going think about what I said?

If the kernels that are being used with the builds are efficient enough to give us 3-7mA, then please, PLEASE tell me what you're expecting? 1mA?

If you come up with a kickass setCPU profile that gets 1mA, I'd love to see it and test it, because I just don't think that's going to happen.

Oh, and you may want to read up in the accessories forum, because 'research' has been done on batteries. Aftermarkets work just fine with the HD2. I have 4 aftermarket batteries of varying quality and with the exception of one, all give similar performance to the stock battery. Others have tried the 'enhanced' batteries and, well they're not so enhanced.

Extended battery support will depend on the build of course.

Did I answer your problems :cool:
[HD2 Android SD Development] ahennin4:
Yes no problem I will be glad to help! I'm still fine tuning these battery settings but i will post them after a few days of tweaking. Day 1, battery life looking pretty good still more testing to be done tho. I will let you know soon!
[HD2 Android SD Development] rclark27:
Is there a proper way to exit from Android and go back to WM?
[HD2 Android SD Development] dubie76:
Just power off, or reboot and it will go right back to winmo, not a hot restart because that stays in Android. Then just dont boot back into Android after winmo come back up. There is no "proper" way.
[HD2 Android SD Development] lonewolf1972:
Cmylxgo, are you working on any new builds?

HD2 BlacktopiaBlue Android 7.7HD
[HD2 Android SD Development] dbsportsbrit:
I see Beta 3 is on Deck

I see Blue Topia HD Beta 3 is on deck hopefully Very soon
[HD2 Android SD Development] yzcrf118:
have no clue

it says the file CLRCAD and HARET cannot be opened. and it says that it is not signed with a trusted certificate,or one of its components cannot be found.

what shall i do?? ive cleared it all out and redownloaded it three times and it says the same thing!
[HD2 Android SD Development] rclark27:
Thanks....I wasn't sure if a Android file would somehow get corrupted by re-booting or not.
[HD2 Android SD Development] cmylxgo:
BlueTopia v1.0.4 is uploading now...

v.1.0.4

Added US English options during intial setup

Updated Kernel to Hastarin r8.5.3

Topiaized Friend Stream Tab (Bluetopia & Redtopia only)

Topiaized Mail Tab (Bluetopia & Blacktopia-b only)

Updated ril wrapper to v0.7

Animated Flip Clock

Updated Market to v2.2.6

Updated gMail to v2.3.2

Updated MyAccount to v4.3 RC2

Updated AIM to v1.9.6.1

Added Custom RingTones

Added Custom Notifications
[HD2 Android SD Development] jogden:
All my text messages are gone!! they just randomly deleted!! this is the second time its happened with this build (Beta 2 HD). it happened overnight while charging and I woke up and they were all gone. I have my auto delete after 200 set to OFF.

Last time i used titanium backup to restore messages from like a week ago, but that wasnt very effective.

Anybody know whats going on??? Help!
[HD2 Android SD Development] cmylxgo:
This has happened to me twice as well. The messaging app crashes and I have to reboot. After reboot all my msgs are gone. I am working on a new base as we speak in hopes to resolve this issue.

I'm finishing up my SD builds now and will get back on the HD build here shortly. I am testing out custom skins to see if I can get all Flavors of Topia into a single build.

-CMY
[HD2 Android SD Development] MartyLK:
Getting constant data freezes.
[HD2 Android SD Development] motoman234:
Yeah, I rebooted and everything was fine.
[HD2 Android SD Development] coolguy7782:
Hey Thanks a ton.. :)

I have downloaded the latest 0.3.1 version and its awesome... everything works good as of now.. need to test more and will update by end of the day :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] cmylxgo:
Yes...but I like the black flip clock. If you want the white clock you will need to edit some of the .apk files yourself.

-CMY
[HD2 Android SD Development] cmylxgo:
Yes...I am not using the overclockable kernel. Go to hastarin's thread and download his other kernel and install. Reboot and you will be good to go.

-CMY
[HD2 Android SD Development] cmylxgo:
Please explain. I tested it and it works fine for me.

-CMY
[HD2 Android SD Development] hummy15:
Market not working for me. Insufficient memory!. I have 3.7GB LEFT.
[HD2 Android SD Development] muzikizxtacy:
Kind of stuck with accessing the patch. Or is it not posted yet?
[HD2 Android SD Development] cmylxgo:
Works for me...did you try rebooting?
[HD2 Android SD Development] trd-nismo:
Oh ok.. but do can u explain which apk files i wud have to edit? Please n thx.

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[HD2 Android SD Development] cmylxgo:
There is no patch per say...you have to edit alot of files in the build to make it work. If you want to patch someones build you will need to follow my tut. I am not going to patch anything else until something more stable comes out.

-CMY
[HD2 Android SD Development] pakirebel:
update the software

In order for me to update from 0.1 to 0.3.1, do I just have to replace my system file or would I have to overwrite all the files except the data img?
[HD2 Android SD Development] tinman4124:
oh hey i got it fix, i needed to put the media file in to get it work. thank you very much for such a great build.
[HD2 Android SD Development] cmylxgo:
The short answer yes. And make sure you delete your data.img.

Long answer...Copy system.ext2 and AndroidApp folder into you Android folder. Delete your data.img and reboot.

-Corey
[HD2 Android SD Development] pakirebel:
you will lose all the settings by deleting the data img..so my question is how can I update without losing the settings???
[HD2 Android SD Development] guntcent:
Hey can anyone help me set up yahoo mail i try to set it up it gives me error
[HD2 Android SD Development] MartyLK:
I worked hard trying to get this beautiful build to function reliably in the data dept. I edited the build prop, adjusted settings, switched cards, tested cards with disk check and changed out the kernel a few times and finally have a semi-reliable data (knock on wood). The kernel I settled on is the old Hastarin 7.5Alt, which worked well in a couple other builds.

I can now get more than a couple minutes of data usage before a freeze. And when a freeze occurs, I can tap airplane mode to unfreeze it.

This is a beautiful build and well worth the effort. I just hope there will be a real resolution to the data issues soon. By the way, I use Fancy Widget in place of the black flipclock. It looks better for me and has better functionality than the Sense Flipclock.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mumbo_jumbo:
data seem pretty stable for me since the update no freeze no drop sofar
[HD2 Android SD Development] cliffdrn:
general questions

Hi Appreciate what you guys do. I run chuckyrom.

If I am at the edge of t mobile phone range my cell takes huge amounts of battery (norm or rom?)

I had to try like 8-9 times to get my s9 bluetooth headphone to work.

Noob question how do you uninstall apps from settings?

How ho you remove app icons from your home screen to add others (cant find it)

Answer what you want to answer thanks for help!
[HD2 Android SD Development] muzikizxtacy:
Well on that note I'm having a little trouble with your previous instructions and hoping you can help. I've got vb and ubuntu and I believe I have su access, however I don't understand how to cd into the Android folder on the Windows end nor do I understand how to edit the files once I'm in it.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Bill R:
Awesome! I'vebeen waiting for an update to the regular BlueTopia!
[HD2 Android SD Development] cmylxgo:
Look closely at the first post...you will find an early christmas present :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] jogden:
its happened to me with MDJ's first Desire HD build too (prior to camera fix last month) seems like a recurring prob with all the builds
[HD2 Android SD Development] warrenb213:
1.0.4 running FLAWLESSLY

Good job!

Although I will say running through Quadrant.....very low score........lowest score i've actually had since the first set of HD2 android ports came out.
[HD2 Android SD Development] daarrheel:
cant tell you how mush I enjoy this build, I have tried all of them now I think and this Topia series is the best by leaps and bounds =) course maybe thats cause I have had so many issues with other builds not working well for me here in the US lol. I await every update to this cause its my daily use build. so I guess what I am saying is ... Great job man keep em coming =)
[HD2 Android SD Development] lonewolf1972:
Any idea when the BlueTopia HD Beta 3 will be ready? I cant wait!! TY sooo much for these tmobile usa builds!!!
[HD2 Android SD Development] cmylxgo:
Tonight...testing it now.
[HD2 Android SD Development] ceo4eva:
Is the RUU 1.43.466.2 something like a software update to increase functionality?

Because Beta 2 didnt work too good for me.

After about a week and a half of usage it just didnt pan out the way I would have hoped.

My Wi-fi connection drops anytime i use the internet, my phone after a few days gets HTC sense force closes as well as a System force close with minimal usage.

A fully charged battery, lets say 40%, is gone in standby mode within a few hours.

Hopefully these issues are fixed in Beta 3​
[HD2 Android SD Development] free2saute:
My screen wont auto rotate what can i do ?????
[HD2 Android SD Development] daarrheel:
I cant wait lol
[HD2 Android SD Development] dubie76:
any reason why you went back to hasterins? I'm running mdj 8.0 now and it seems legit
[HD2 Android SD Development] daarrheel:
The Beta 3 is gonna have MDJ 8.0 on it, i think that 1.0.4 is the only one with hasterins on it
[HD2 Android SD Development] dubie76:
Ok but I still have the same question. Not a problem, just curious why the switch again.
[HD2 Android SD Development] daarrheel:
well maybe he just wanted to give us options =P who knows hehe
[HD2 Android SD Development] dubie76:
True. That's cool. I'm looking to see if there is a technical reason.
[HD2 Android SD Development] warrenb213:
absolutely phenomenal experience thus far.

wi-fi hotspot WORKS yayyyyy now Android seems ready for daily use by me. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] crisisinthecity:
I tried Hastarins 8.5.3 and couldn't get MMS to send. Tried all of the APN's, proxy settings, etc. Everything else was fine. 8.5.1 works well for me.

I tried the HD build with every kernel and it had many lag issues and data drops... I need to get caught up on this thread though. Haven't given up on HD yet. Getting ready to try out 1.0.4 because 1.0.3 is my daily build...