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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knyghtryda:
Wonderful build (FAST FAST FAST!) but I have a couple strange issues/questions.

1) What version of market should be on here and is it possible to upgrade to say 2.2.11? I've tried a few methods and all of them have resulted in market crashing or not installing at all.

2) What happened to google talk?

3) I can't seem to install the clock/email apps attached on post #1 for 5.25. Is anyone else having this issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
I have the latest version of the market that was around the end of December. So it is pretty recent. As for the crashing it has to be a very certain version, which if there is an upgrade i'll try to get it for you. As for the google apps that should be in the pack with the google apps. It sounds like this version is too far ahead of those old apps and i'll have to update it.

I don't use the google apps myself so I had no idea they would not work but I will be uploading an updated google apps pack for you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TITAN-23:
How do I update from 5.1 to 5.25 without doing a fresh install of my whole system
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
download the update, rename it to androidupdate.tar, place it in your andboot folder and then go to the menu where you would normally install a build and instead select install update. That will install the updated files.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
I have the same issue, also got the clemesyn kernel.

Disable data connection and problem goes away.

I was unable to install via the Atools script, could not find the sdcard. Tryed to update the script with various setting, install to nand, data to sdcar, data on nand etc.

I could install via holding the d-pad button and "manually" install, there is a lot of "xbin\... not found" errors.

i can only use phone for texting and calling.

Yesterday the phone kept rebooting regardless of what i did.

Installed latest 5.25 release, updated kernel at the same time.

Had the same problems with latest kernel from git, and gingerbones 4.55 and 5.1

Tryed changing almost every possible setting with atools, still the same thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knyghtryda:
Well, I managed to cobble together an androidupdate file that got me email, clock, and talk back. If anyone else wants it let me know :)

Edit: Did a full reinstall and market is now the correct version. Weird. Everything works now though. Yay!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Xbins is fixed with 5.25. What exact kernel (even the date) are you using and also did you do a wipe when you installed. It sounds like something is either using old data or it isn't configured right.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ouz:
running for 24 hours so far no FC or Reboot...and super fast :) using 16/01 kerneal without OC
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
Hi

i use clemesyn's kernel

I did wipe all data when i installed.

Not sure what i could have configured wrong.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] X46X:
aceoyame: Which radio are you using please?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
I believe I inadvertantly flashed the radio from hell but I don't remember. I am going to flash a different radio on mine since it is having some funky signal issues lately anyways.

As I said earlier mine has been saying it has no signal occasionally but will still receive calls and SMS messages.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ouz:
now same problems appeared again :

Without Data connection phone works well , but when i connect 2g/3g phone starts to reboot... tried a lot of radio's but all is same.. phone reboots only when i connected to network
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
Change the radio firmware
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ouz:
so which one you guys using ? cuz i tried a lot of radio's and don't know which one is left... i know it depends , but maybe it will help :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
Exactly what happens with mine too, i have tryed many different kernels, a few different radios, different versions of cryagenmod, scoots build and gingerbones 4.55, 5.1, 5,25.

Same problem occours.

I am using clemesyn kernel now, but i think i am going to get latest from git, because of battery capacity.

Atleast i can use the phone without 3g\2g\wifi to call and text.

Would be realy nice to get gps, appstore, updated weather etc. again
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Yeah I believe you two are the only cases of that i've heard. EDGE works for me as well as wifi. Since you were using clemsyn's kernel you had a recent .32 kernel. So I'm stumped
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] esolks:
Hi,

I have the same problem when i connect my phone to wifi...with 4.55 , 5.2 and 5.25

i have latest radio laterst kernel from atools... some problem on both nand & sd inst all

think you aceoyame ....i realy like your build very fast

excuse my bad english :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] V3rt!g(o):
Same here, tried v5.25. Keeps restarting on data/wifi. If you leave it active on shutdown, next time it will reset even before you can disable data on the power widget :/.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] X46X:
Same for me, but I solved this problem, maybe.. You must do Fresh Install!

1. Instal kernel

2. Instal ROM

3. Sync with google

4. Install all your programs ONLY INSTALL!!! - no settings (when I settings aplications, I have lot of weird white squares (lol) when I do Back-up)

5. Turn off phone

6. Turn on your phone

7. Jump in "boot menu"

8. Do a Back-up

9. Do a restore

10. Enjoy! :-)

This is working for me. Try it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WaqasJ:
Can somebody please help me. I cannot get the data to be on SD card. I have installed CyanogenMod 6.1 Barebones System and Data both on NAND but I cannot install more than a few apps before it starts to go weird with reloading system (boot animation).

When I try to install Data on SD card it give some error like unable to mount

Please let me know the configuration that is working for you.

1. Partitions of SD card and their sizes

2. Settings done in A tools

3. Any other order of install like X46X mentioned.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Instead of partitioning the card I just use data on an image file. That method is a bit better than partitioning just because it checks the image file more.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
Sounds like you have the problem with data traffic aswell, mine also works perfect untill i install a few apps, then the rebooting starts.

I don't have much time to test lately, been working on the car etc.

Hope someone finds a way to fix this.

Can someone else confirm that X46X method works?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
His method sounds similar to what I use to install and use. So I would say it is. Also in regard to instability after apps how are you installing them? I installed a 3d game, a few emulators and a couple utility apps and no stability issues yet. This is on clemsyn's latest kernel which I am going to recommend as it brings a speed boost.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] X46X:
My phone still randomly booting :-( I have this issue after 3 days when i using metod what I posted on previous page..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dany547:
same problem here :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TITAN-23:
Hi,

Today I successfully put your rom on my SD Card divided into four partitions (Fat, Ext2, Ext2, Linux Swap). Much faster than on fat32 alone.

I have two questions that would be great to have answers to: -

1) In Haret I can do a "backup". It only backs up "Data.img". How do you Backup up "System.img" (Do you need to and what is the difference between the System and Data?)

2) Can I use Ext4 partitions with your rom and Haret?

Thanks for all the great work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Android doesn't have EXT4 support yet. As for the System.img there is no point in backing it up. That is just the build files that are Read only. As long as you have the Android install tar sitting on your SD card there is no reason to back it up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] beely:
I was experiencing random rebooting when I have wifi on to wifi working but not able to make any phone calls (was able to receive calls and send/receive txt) to everything working (albeit a bit slow at times)

so confuse but at least it is for the good.

I am gonna try using this method and see how it goes
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] albe695:
I have the same problem with any distributions except fat free and not so super froyo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seancojr:
I'm currently running "Gingerbones" (release 5.25) with the latest kernel posted by clemsyn:

My storage card is partitioned as FAT32/Ext2/Ext2 (~2.7GB/512MB/512MB) with the System on NAND and Data on storage. I previously had System on storage as well, hence the reason for two Ext2 partitions.

It's been a while since I've flashed my radio. If someone would be so kind to remind me how I can check which version I have, I'll gladly share that as well.

So far my install has been running fine, the Market still downloads slow (tested over Wifi) but other than that I haven't had any problems like random reboots when enabling wireless or playing with the GPS. Google Maps successfully got a satellite lock and pinpointed my location accurately. I have not had to disable the data connection to keep the phone from behaving oddly as someone mentioned in a post earlier, also turning off GPS didn't have any noticeable effects but I didn't test it for very long or across a restart.

For installation, I'll say that I did follow X64X's method, but I also had this version running successfully before his suggestion - or maybe that was version 4.55b.

Hope this helps someone.

To those with the conflicts, be encouraged, you'll get it working. The reason we're all here is because we love our kaisers so much...at least enough to flash them over and over again. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TITAN-23:
Hi,

My Kaiser crashes whenever I slide out the keyboard, it didn't used to have this problem. Reinstalling Android didn't help either. Slide out keyboard works perfectly fine in Windows Mobile 6.1.

Any ideas?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TuoNonno:
Maybe it's a good thing to point out wich kernel/radio are people using so we can focus on wich kernel/radio cause the reboot issue and wich not...

I'll start:

kernel: VOGUIMG-320-FROYO-01-16-11.NBH by l1q1d

Radio: 1.71.09.01

Notes: happens also on scooter cyanogenmod 6.1

Affected by reboot issue: YES
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tiagoclc:
Give a try to downgrade your radio to 1.65.** series.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TuoNonno:
tried this:

1.65.17.56

No luck, phone still reboot when I turn wifi on
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TITAN-23:
I have found a strange work around for my slide out keyboard crashes.

1/ Start up Haret with the keyboard open

2/ After Android has completely finished booting, press the "email" button to switch the screen into landscape mode.

3/ I can then safely open and close the keyboard without any crashing.

P.S. When I start Haret with the keyboard open, the screen starts upside-down in portrait.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
1.70.19.09 Working great. Better check your kernel too
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tiagoclc:
Try this

Radio 1.65.21.18 - link: http://www.4shared.com/file/60245123/b2fe2504/Kais_1652118.html

With this radio, my kaiser's gps signal is locking much faster than with other

Kernel from this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=10974911&postcount=1

Remember to open kaisimg.nbh with atools and change from donut to froyo and to check the correct panel type too.

Good luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WaqasJ:
I tried aceoyame's advice and installed data on image file. My kaiser is stable than before.

However after a few boot ups my SD card is no longer visible on android and music players and android report that SD card is not inserted, while it is accessible through Astro. Also Data can no longer be backed up and restored as it cannot verify that sd card is mounted.

What may be the cause of this problem? any workarounds suggested?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
Just a thougt, who here uses the "auto screen" in atools when installing new kernel?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
Testing this now.

Installing with auto panel, system on nand, data on data.img
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
It is not possible to install with the install script, how does others install?

Using boot install script

starting script

Mount: mounting /dev/block/mtdblock2 on /system failed: No such device or address

Failed

Failed to mount
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
When trying manual install

after install on first boot:

install module for this kernel

apply modules/androidupdate.tgz

Failed

from sourceforge

I can only install using the old nbh editor, and installing manualy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mmec2:
@Uberhenrik: is that message with this build or an older build?

If it's an older build, you need this androidupdate.tgz with the newer kernels
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
Newest build, but i included the update. i even tryed to install the update manualy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mmec2:
strange...

are you doing it in the right order, i.e.:

install system

install update

quit

if you install the system again, then you need to install the update again too

Also make sure there is only one androidupdate file in the andboot folder (.tar or.tgz)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
Updated radio and kernel, reinstalled system.

No luck, still reboots when i enable wlan.

I think this problem is with the android install, maybe CM related since other builds did not have this problem for me.

Problem is that i like this build too mutch:P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
Did this in the right order, first install sys then update, fix permissions.

Only one android update in the folder.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TuoNonno:
Same here T_T
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
This build always hot reboots for me as well. Try scooter's CM build. Alot much stable and faster.

Give Radio version 1.70.19.09 a go as well (I am using it)

WLan worked for me, but it worked for only 5 minutes. Then a chain of hot reboots
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tiagoclc:
Did you change kaisimg.nbh from donut to froyo using atools?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TuoNonno:
I tried both barebone and full release but nothing changed, I still have chains of reboots after a couple of minutes that wifi is activated. T_T
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
I got the same problems with scooter's build. it was also slower than gingerbones.

Also i dont think the radio or kernel is where the fault is.

I think there is something in CM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
Yes i always change the nbh.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TuoNonno:
How can it be that some people does not experience this bug? What it different in their phones? :/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ouz:
it only happens with CM based roms... and i don't wanna change build cuz this one is really fast and stable
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tiagoclc:
I change the size of system and data (nand) partitions using hex fiend (mac).

Gpu and cpu overclock (500) using atools.

Then I use dzo odex script.

Never had this problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
No idea:confused:

Same for me, don't want to change build:P

Guess we do, hope someone can fix the problem:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dark_prince:
I kept scoot's build for like 1 and a half month. It never bothered me. I used clemsyn's kernel at that time. (now I am on l1q1d's and running kyle's froyo)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] acompres:
this is the fastest and most stable rom i've ever had on my kaiser, although, i'm having the same problem as everyone else, but with data, everytime i enable data it works for a minute or two tops, then it hot reboots. I'm running one of clem's lastest experimental kernels

EDIT: Holy SH@%#%@#%T! how is this even possible?! i installed System on nand and data on IMG and it's even faster and more stable, and with data turned on, i haven't had a single restart in more than 20 Minutes!

EDIT Part 2: I guess i sung victory to quick, after a restart the problems started again!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chinomoreno:
noob here ;P

starting in android world... I've installed CM 7 in a first attempt but phone wasn't working so i tried this one and everything is awesome...

However, had some problems that are really annoying for using this in a normal day....

I've installed kernel VOGUIMG-320-FROYO-01-16-11 modified with editor to kaiser and panel 2, installed this build sys on nand and data on nand too... installed some apps and games (fruit ninja and angrybirds works really nice on kaiser ;P) and changed some settings accordingly with my taste...

1. well everything seemed awesome until a big crash occured and had to manually reset... after reseting phone stucks at booting on a loop in line "....set volume 256 of 5" something like that...

then i have to install again android... and install apps again and put settings again bla bla... already happened 3 times in my first android day =( and i was liking a lot... any good and safe way to backup all settings and apps? and if i backup can i change build and restore backup in another build?

2. Battery only lasts about 8 hours that is also a big problem... no wifi and no 3g ( btw already tested and works both wifi and 3g) only GPRS data... anyone wants to sell me a cheap battery? hehe

3. If i install data on sd card will, by anycase, mess up with performance?

4.There is anyway to sync contacts from myphone to android or google?

Apps i'm using.

tweetdeck...

Gmail

roguetools (overlock to 500)

dophin mini browser

Ndrive Gps app(still haven't tested)

Angrybirds

Fruit Ninja

Advance task killer pro....

Thanks for all the work that is being done on kaiser android =) and sorry for all this questions...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seancojr:
No worries, we're all "newbs" at something.

See my post here for my setup and configuration, it might help a little regarding data corruption and restarts.

Regarding problems with the battery, it seems common to many as I don't believe the battery driver has ever been fully optimized for our devices. With data and GPS disabled, I have been gotten a little more than 10 running hours (though it was with moderate yet sometimes heavy use of WiFi). Of course, with less use of WiFi (or if you're primarily on a data plan) your mileage could vary farther.

Also, as mentioned in my linked post, I am running data on storage card. I've come to learn that this add to a bit more stability in comparison to current NAND storage option and the performance isn't too bad. I have loaded way more apps than you have listed here, where at one time it did start to slow down...so I think your app collection should be fine.

I have had no recent problems with linking my Google account and synching contacts, calendar, email, or picasa photo albums by using the Settings > Account Sync tool. The last time that this did happen was several ROM and kernel updates ago.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] EdgarS18:
Maybe not ;), After trying and trying i have found a way to make the wifi and gprs work without crashing the phone. The trick is to turn on the GPS before the wifi (and leave it on) and then turn on the wifi (or data connection). It's hard on the baterry but if works with no problems. So i hope you can enjoy your kaiser android as much as i'm now :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] matthias.matthias:
YES!!! It works. Thanks a lot for the tip.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seancojr:
I can attest to this being true. It's also probably why I haven't experienced much of the problems noted in other posts. Thanks for mentioning this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Uberhenrik:
Awesome:D

It works! Big thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Yay for necro posting bump? lol, Just figured i'd let you guys know im still in android development and *might* update my barebones rom to show my appreciation as this was the device I got my start on.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] erenberk:
This android rom is the most stable, fastest, and lightest one I've tried until now. I'd have a problem about wifi connection before I've replaced the kernel with the below one; however, everything is fine now. Thanks to those who contributed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xepbam:
Hey, guys!

Is there are any chance to get worked Google Apps (GTalk e.g.) for this amazing build?

Thx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Here is a list of what I plan to have done in the next release:

1. Fix the market to have newer apps

2. Add language packs (hopefully with an optional android update for size purposes)

3. Slim down the theme

4. Remove additional un-used library files

5. Any other requests that come through before this one is released.

I do plan on seeing what I have to do for the language packs as I am sure there is a very large percentage of people around the world using their kaiser that do not speak english.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] scooter1556:
You have to tell the compiler which languages to include when you compile the build, it effects all of the standard apk's, most importantlybut not limited to the framework-res.apk.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] waterpolo:
I did some tests for the all language and found which files are affected.

system\app\*.apk (standard apk's)

system\framework\framework-res.apk

..\resources.arsc

..\META-INF\*.* (CERT.RSA / CERT.SF /MANIFEST.MF)

..\res\raw-* (languages)

system\lib\libicudata.so
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
What source should I use to compile CM6.1 myself? I have compiled applications before but I am wondering what CM source I should use and if there are any kaiser specific fixes I should apply.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] scooter1556:
I use the standard CyanogenMod repo but there are a lot of things which need to be changed to compile for Kaiser. I usually have to fix cerain things everytime I sync the repo so its a pain really. I would try and make my own repo for CM6 but I don't have the time to keep it updated seen as it's never as easy as just merging with the main cyanogenmod branch.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Just released RLS 3

Added an odex'd and non odexd version

Built off all language version of CM6.1

Added Vender.apk that has skype so probabbly has all the other missing apps

file size is greater in non odex'd version.

Uploading de-odexd as I am finishing up the odexd version.