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[EVO 4G Accessories] nYdGeo:
Right Mr. Sprint Rep, and since when has Sprint cared about their customer's experience? I had a month long experience that was finally un-amicably resolved after numerous calls with Sprint's Debbie Broussard. If you don't know who she is, you should. You'll never convince me that Sprint gives a damn about anything or anyone except the almighty dollar

As an Evo is delivered out of the box, with all of the Sprint crap all over it, everything running and synching every 3.12 seconds, we're lucky to get 6-8 hours out of it if we don't use it at all. So now is when the user finally begins to learn about the phone that your marketing and advertising sold him, not the specs. You know as well as I that 90% of the population buy based on marketing and advertising because they've been trained for decades to do just that.

Stick caveat emptor where the sun doesn't shine; because you or Sprint get away with it doesn't make it right.

So now we look at the specs and realize that if we turn most everything off, disable most of the synching, and just about turn it into a cool looking flip phone, wow, we can get an entire day out of it.

This all occurs because of misrepresentation on the part of Sprint, not HTC, not you and not me. WOW...4G! (in the like 21 cubic inches of the coutry that has it, yet we're all paying for it...hmm) Wow, the first mobile hotspot! (It built into the android OS, weenie, you're just the first major carrier to put a pretty face and slap a pricetag on it.)

So please, Mr. Sprint Rep, blow your own horn...among other things. Personally I don't mind buying the extra capacity battery because that's just life...it ain't fair. It is what it is. But don't dare bring that "holier than thou" attitude in here.

After some symbolic gestures and attempts by Ms Broussard to make things as right as they could be made under the conditions, I limited the posting of our experience to our gov.net. You wont be selling many Evo's to federal employees. But I'll be happy to slap it all over every forum that I can if that will make you happy, Mr. Sprint Rep.

Note: My apologies to the XDA members and readers, but due to our experience in June and July surrounding the purchasing of our Evo's, I just couldn't let that go, not from some pinhead from Sprint.

If the Mod feels it necessary to remove this post, I understand with no hard feelings.
[EVO 4G Accessories] fortcollins:
Total of 5 lines on my account. 3 evos 1 hero and 1 BB.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
Have you ever wondered why EVO didn't include a bigger battery?

Because these large aftermarket batteries turn your slim sleek EVO into a fat heavy brick. I have 2 3500 mah batteries. They are heavy by themselves, but if you add a case to it it just gets silly.

You are better off getting an external charger, 2 or 3 Amazon 1500 mah batteries and a small leather pouch to carry extras in or a nice external battery extender.

Keep the EVO sleek and light.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mitchellvii:
You know, your whole whine-fest reminds me of the smokers who get cancer then complain that no one told them smoking was bad for them. I mean, c'mon, what rock were you living under that you didn't know before you bought an EVO that the battery would suck? Did you do any research AT ALL?

And what the hell is wrong with Sprint wanting to make money?

Could EVO have put a fat ass battery in there stock? Sure, but more people would be complaining about how HUGE the phone was than complain now about battery life.

Here's the formula: Skinny Phone + Does Tons Of Stuff = Crappy Battery Life. People who want more mileage from their batteries can buy aftermarket. My first cell phone cost $1300 and all it did was make phone calls. You have a computer, a camera, a camcorder, high speed internet and (oh yeah) a phone in your pocket smaller than a deck of cards for $200 and you ***** about Sprint's greed?

Seriously my friend, get a nice razor flip phone on contract for free and leave the adult phones to people that understand them. The problem is not with the EVO, the problem is with battery technology. Fortunately that is quickly improving.
[EVO 4G Accessories] rfeagan:
Regarding cheap ebay batteries... Anyone know, is it possible that my cheap ebay extended battery causes my phone to lag? Is it possible that the battery doesn't respond well to a spike in amp draw? I swear my phone hangs & slows down more when using this battery. I need to do more testing. Is my hypothesis feasible, or is it all in my head?
[EVO 4G Accessories] Hawkijustin:
I just picked this up a few days ago. How is everyone else charging the battery? When i charge it in the phone it seems to charge faster then the stock battery but i do have a drop off right away. Is the phone not charging past 1500mah?
[EVO 4G Accessories] superm3:
None of you guys have taste or style. I got the seidio 3500 battery, the phantom carbon fiber 4g for extended case, and the griffin technology 4g case. I cut off the the clear part and use the black part for protection around the edges of the phone. Full protection w/o the ugly seidio rugged case. Best looking case I seen so far.
[EVO 4G Accessories] jeriel05:
Post pics

Sent From My "EVO"
[EVO 4G Accessories] elhalisf:
to the members who received a credit from sprint; how long did it take for the credit to reflect onto your account?

i was promised a credit of both of the batteries purchased, plus $20 for the inconvenience.
[EVO 4G Accessories] jeriel05:
As soon as the rep told me the credit was applied to the account I logged in to Sprint.com a checked my account and it was there, I also received an email telling me an adjustment had been made to my account. The credit already appeared in this months billing cycle.

Sent From My "EVO"
[EVO 4G Accessories] nYdGeo:
Um, dude, I've mentioned in several other posts that I cannot wait until battery technology catches up to phone technology. Generally, I've found you to be a fairly neutral poster here and in a couple other forums we both frequent, and I'm quite shocked to see such a short-sighted, insulting response from you.

No, when we ordered our Evos, just like most people that

pre-ordered

Evos (like before they were out there, and no one was posting about the sucky battery life?), we read the adds from Sprint, we watched the adds from Sprint, and were sold hard on the upgrade by Sprint reps over the phone.

We didn't know anyone with Android phones at that time, but we knew folks with iPhones, and they got great battery life. The guy sitting next to me has an iPhone 4 (granted, a new model) that he hasn't charged since Monday night and he has 32% charge left. The formula: "Skinny Phone + Does Tons Of Stuff = Crappy Battery Life" does not appear to apply to his phone.

Again, like most people that ordered Evos before there were Evos, we just went on the info that was available to us. What you also don't know, and obviouly couldn't care less about, is that we probably didn't have the same wonderful experience buying our Evos as you did yours. I won't go into that here as this thread is not the appropriate forum, but suffice to say that where you may be quite happy with Sprint, I am not. Its also my right to not be happy with them if I so choose.

However, except for the pathetic battery life, I love my Evo.

No one climbed all over you when you posted about issues or experience with your Evo in this or any other forums that I've observed, so how about you back off of the offensive, personal, insulting attacks and allow for the fact that people are different as are their experiences.

Thank you for your time.
[EVO 4G Accessories] rvance:
Nicely said Nyd...nice indeed
[EVO 4G Accessories] mikegoldnj:
Has anyone found a case that will fit with this battery/back combo?
[EVO 4G Accessories] jeriel05:
It has been mentioned that the seidio rugged extended seems to fit just fine. I personally have not tried this yet.

Sent From My "EVO"
[EVO 4G Accessories] stc1:
I wrote in another thread that the innocase rugged will work with the sprint extended and I would comment if I found any problems. It does work however the lip around the glass recedes somewhat and I'm concerned it could slip off withe the right impact. Other than that it is almost the same size as a standard setup (seidio rugged) or Otterbox defender. I have an extra Otterbox defender do to the kick stand warranty so I will try modifying that as well. I'll let you know.

p.s. I do have a seidio extended rugged as well but its pretty hefty. Great protection and thicker silicone than the reg. extended but it takes getting used to.
[EVO 4G Accessories] BrentnNC:
The seidio rugged extended fits fine with no mods.I have had this case for a week and i feels very durable.
[EVO 4G Accessories] tracerit:
wow, i'm surprised Sprint is giving these batteries away. I'll try it out tomorrow. It's getting crazy having to keep so many charging cables, 2 at home (1 for data, 1 for a faster AC charge), 1 in the car, 1 cable at work, and a spare charger/cable in the car.
[EVO 4G Accessories] devnulldroid:
I am not surprised at all. Considering 4G doesnt really shutoff after you toggle it off (within settings or via toggle), 4G radio keeps chugging away and it then has runaway errors in log every 2 seconds until you reboot. Airplane mode doesnt even shutoff 4G radio.

I'd be giving away free batteries too as its alot cheaper than a massive device/battery recall for every EVO they have sold.

FAA and FCC might have something to say about the 4G radio not really shutting off (both rooted and unrooted phones) and force them to fix it.. eventually.
[EVO 4G Accessories] bignibb:
follow this tread for exellent battery!

This guy has been working on this for weeks, maybe even close to a month, he has found a way to get the most charge out a battery with an evo. I am running his moddified kernel and have been off the charger for 7 hours and have checked emails and sent a couple of text and still at a 100%

try it, I have been following his work from day one and not all builds have been sucessful but this one is killer. He updates regularly which in itself is far from what most DEV will do.

here is the link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=876590
[EVO 4G Accessories] superm3:
heres the pic
[EVO 4G Accessories] tracerit:
No success on getting a full $60 credit for the battery. Only 10% and 50%. I really like the back cover though, it fits better than the extended eBay cover. My actual evo has weird tabs.
[EVO 4G Accessories] renizo:
Is this worth it or get the seildo brand one better since its 3500 instead of 2600. I say because ill just pick one up at sprint store instead of waiting for shipping.
[EVO 4G Accessories] tracerit:
this Sprint battery is pretty good. With continuous internet usage over wifi, i drain 10-13% an hour so it'll last me at least 7.5 hours with continous use. whereas with the stock battery it'll drain 25-35%. your best bet is to buy the Sprint battery for $60, get on chat and try to get a whole $60 credit but you'll at least get a 50% off credit making the battery only $30.
[EVO 4G Accessories] jorpe:
getting one today if the sprint store at DTC has it... looks cool
[EVO 4G Accessories] mlmob:
my .02, and a question...

Got the Sprint battery for the holidays since I wasn't happy with the fit of the seidio on my evo (could actually feel the battery sliding around inside :/), and couldn't be happier with the new choice. Fit is great, and feels a bit lighter/slimmer than the seidio. I don't really care for cases, but has anyone had any luck finding a holster for this baddy? I'm looking for the fully-enclosed type (like you can get for a non-extended), not the seidio-type that's open...
[EVO 4G Accessories] tracerit:
Get a rocketfish case from best buy. It's $20. Fits perfectly and is fully enclosed. It's like a leather pouch. Here's what it looks like. http://androidforums.com/907306-post15.html

It slides in perfectly smooth and closes with magnetic snap.
[EVO 4G Accessories] renizo:
I could not resist it i went to one of the sprint store and got the extended battery. The fit feels great i used to have the ebay extended battery which in my opinion suck and not worth $12. I will test the battery life on it since I am a heavy user and will post the result later.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mlmob:
Will give it a shot, thanks for the suggestion.
[EVO 4G Accessories] renizo:
How i go about the $60 credit? I purchase the battery yesterday at my local Sprint store.
[EVO 4G Accessories] reedsw:
Got mine for Christmas. Love it. All day with heavy use no problem. Also like the extra size.. keeps the camera lens scratch free when I lay it down on its back. Great present. Glad I requested it from Santa :-)

Sent using EVO via xda app
[EVO 4G Accessories] tracerit:
read through the first 1-3 pages of this thread.
[EVO 4G Accessories] evoss05:
Is anyone having trouble with the battery lately??? Mines draining to fast and charging real quick? I believe we have a 1 yr warranty right?? Also does anybody knows an unroot walkthrough for unrevoked 3.21? I know they have their webpage but it doesn't make any sense to me :( thanks for the help
[EVO 4G Accessories] snovvman:
I'm looking for side-by-size shots comparing the Seidio profile and the Sprint profile. It's hard to judge exactly how much smaller the Sprint battery/cover is. At 2.6A vs. 3.5A, I would expect the Sprint cover/battery to be slimmer. It may be a good compromise for me..

Will someone please take some Seidio and Sprint comparison pictures, especiallly from the side, and post them?

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Accessories] tracerit:
i've noticed the fast charging as well. i'll have to pay closer attention to this within the next few days. then again i'm also using the SBC kernel which alters the charging characteristics.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ElAguila:
After a couple of years the seidio 3500 I had used in my hero and now in my evo has died. I went to the sprint store and picked up the last 2600mah battery that they had. I have it charging now and I was just curious as to how it took most people before their battery was at full charge using a wall charger with the battery out of the phone?
[EVO 4G Accessories] sasscuba:
I have the Seidio and my wife got her free Sprint 2600. The 2600 is about an 1/16 of an inch smaller. Not much difference at all.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ElAguila:
Okay after 5 1/2 hours my new sprint battery is fully charged. I also own a seidio 3500mah battery. There are 2 things I noticed. The sprint battery installed with the sprint battery door on will fit in the innocase extended. Since it fits in the innocase extended, it will therefore fit in the innocase extended holster if the innocase is installed. I also noticed that if you want to use the innocase extended holster but not the innocase, with the sprint battery door installed it was too loose for innocase extended holster. It did fit in my cheapo generic holster though. The seidio extended battery door will fit with the sprint battery installed. I tried it and could detect/hear no movement of the battery.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Product F(RED):
Guys, DO NOT use SBC kernels. Read: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=904577
[EVO 4G Accessories] ElAguila:
So far this battery is doing good. I have compared it in size with the seidio 3500 and the ebay 3500 bateries. It is just a little smaller than the seidio battery and a little larger than the ebay battery. This leads me to believe that the supposed 3500mah batteries on ebay are more like the 2200mah batteries that being sold in the touchtone stores.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Product F(RED):
What you can do to get credited back for the battery is this:

I had the battery for less than a week and it would charge to 100%, then drop to 89% every single time. This was probably because the SBC kernel ruined it. Even after jumping back to HTC #17 the problem stuck. I remember the guy at the store said it has a 1 year warranty and that you can always exchange it if it's defective.

So I chatted online with Sprint and explained the issue. They said to go to the store and buy a 2nd one, and they would credit me for that. Huh? I kept my mouth shut about the guy at the store saying I could just exchange it for free. After all, this was a corporate store; they know what they're talking about. So I had an idea and mixed the two things I was told. I went to the store and exchanged the battery for a new one. This took about 5 minutes with a receipt (they also pin it to your account in case you lost it). Then I went home and chatted with Sprint again. I told them I bought a second one like they said and wanted to be credited for it. Make sure to tell them you paid in cash (which was true in my case). They will credit you on your bill if you haven't paid already, or when the next payment appears.
[EVO 4G Accessories] bleedscarlet:
if i'm going to commit fraud, it's going to be worth a lot more than 20 bucks.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Product F(RED):
Well, it's not fraud. They were telling me to go buy a 2nd one, which I would be credit for, when all I had to do was use the warranty it came with. If I listened to them, I would have paid for the first battery and gotten the second one for free. I just chose to get the first one for free.
[EVO 4G Accessories] MaxCarnage:
I got a $50 credit today towards the extended battery; of course I had just switched to Sprint from AT&T on the 6th so I had the ability to hold over their head that I could exit my contract without penalty if they insisted on not providing me with a decent battery.

I didn't really have to play that card, however; I just explained that the stock battery really wasn't sufficient for me and that the store folks had acknowledged (a different store than where I signed up and bought my EVO, of course) that the stock battery was pretty paltry. I also told the woman on the phone that I can't follow suggestions to have all my radios and services turned off because I use the phone for work and need push mail and stuff active. She relented pretty easily and gave me the credit. All in all with taxes and the leftover after the $50 I paid about ten bucks for the battery.

By the way, some of the store folks are saying that the batteries are 3500/3700mAh; don't be fooled. They are 2600mAh/3.7v batteries. They are either confusing the amps with the voltage, or they're lying. I tend think the former is the case.

EDIT: They also told me, for what it's worth, that HTC was supposedly going to be releasing a software update to address some battery issues. Possibly to address the charging bug? In any event, I doubt store employees would actually be privy to such information, so it's probably more rumor than anything else.

EDIT 2: After a full charge to 100% via USB, I am down to 79% after about ten minutes. This is worse than anything the stock battery ever did. Praying that it either stops or another charge will fix the issue. Guess it's hard to complain about a free battery; hopefully I can replace it if it is an issue.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Product F(RED):
It's sold as 2600 mAh on the Sprint website. The in-store employees are idiots. It's normal for the battery to go from 100-95 quickly or even a little lower, because the way the Evo charges is it goes to 100, then drops to 90, then repeats. It lets the battery keep working well for over a year. Oh PS, it comes with its own 1 year warranty so you can go exchange it for a new one in-store.

But I'll be honest, I also have issues with the battery. I bought one new last week and it would charge and drop quickly to 89% in less than 5 minutes. So I went and replaced it and this one does the same thing, except the drop is slower. I don't know what's going, but I feel I should ask around if people are having issues as well. It definitely lasts longer than the stock battery, but not as good as it should.
[EVO 4G Accessories] MaxCarnage:
Can't bring myself to call them idiots, just uninformed.

The battery dropped to 68% then started holding steady. I put it on my charger in the car on my way home so we'll see how it holds now.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Product F(RED):
I'll admit I was harsh. Yes, let's go with uninformed. Get back to us on that battery issue.
[EVO 4G Accessories] tracerit:
if you charge the extended battery in the phone it won't always charge right. your best bet is to buy a cheap $5 AC wall charger to charge it seperately. i get a nice full charge that way, although it does take 14 hours to charge from 10-100%
[EVO 4G Accessories] MaxCarnage:
I have ordered one of those hong kong battery packages off of ebay so I will have a cheap charger soon. I guess I just wanted the 2600 sprint battery to tide me over until they arrive.
[EVO 4G Accessories] sasscuba:
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[EVO 4G Accessories] sasscuba:
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[EVO 4G Accessories] sasscuba:
My wife has this battery and only charges it in the phone and get 2 days out of it and she it a heavy gamer and lots of texts. You just need to charge it 2-3 hours past when it turns green. Also I have the Seidio 3500 and charge the same way and can get 2-3 days with medium to heavy use. I have been doing some test trials and we both use Juice Defender from the market and it does help the levels drop more slowly. Plus no way am I taking my case off and removing the charger everytime I need juice, LOL.
[EVO 4G Accessories] todah09:
For those with the 2600 battery.try leaving it on the charger for about a hour after the light turns green.I think you'll be pleasantly surprised .I know some say that does nothing,but try it and see for your self...

sent from a terminal in the nightlands...........
[EVO 4G Accessories] MaxCarnage:
I will give it a shot. I'd love for this thing to work as intended; it's a great phone and I have no regrets about leaving my iPhone 4 behind for it, except for this darn battery issue.

My wife says that I'm probably killing the battery by checking it every five minutes. lol What can I say I'm obsessed with perfection!
[EVO 4G Accessories] MaxCarnage:
Alright, so I charged up my phone from 10pm last night to 6am this morning. I woke up around 3am to take a leak and noted that the LED was green, so it was on the charger for about three hours after it was fully-charged.

Of course right after I took it off the charger it dropped steadily to about 91%, which is not unexpected. This was broken up a bit by a charge in my car on my way to work (approx. 45 minutes), so it was at 96% at 7am when I arrived at work.

It began dropping steadily after that, even when powered off. I realized about five minutes ago (8:55am) that wifi was still enabled, and turned that off when the phone was at 83%. So with wifi, 4G, and GPS enabled I went from 96% to 83% in about 2 hours while the screen was off. Wifi made up 13% of the battery use for the past two hours, but I suck at math and don't want to put in the work to determine what that translates to into battery life.

It's 9:04 as I write this and the battery is still at 82% but I am doing almost literally nothing with it.

I will continue to share my experience throughout the day. In the meantime, I am trying to find a Sprint phone with better battery life, but they don't seem to exist. Dammit, I was so spoiled by my iPhone. lol

EDIT: It's 9:21 and I've been using my phone almost constantly since my last post (quick browsing, Wordfeud (zombiepete btw if you'd like a game), JuicePlotter, looked at downloading JuiceDefender+ (I have JuiceDefender disabled FYI)) and I am still at 82%.

Could wifi really have been making that big of a difference? If so, I'll never turn wifi on again, lol. I am using 4G also.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Product F(RED):
In the order of power consumption from least to greatest, it's Wifi -> 3G -> 4G. Also there is a bug with 4G where, if you turn it on, then off, it will continue trying to scan. If you download aLogcat from the market, you will see in red that WiMax will continually scan and time out "127.0.0.1". This will also happen if you have a 4G toggle on your homescreen. Try using Juicedefender if you can.