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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
Market misbehaves the last couple of days.

I believe it's Market problems, not ROM- or phone-related.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] TJ221:
I just got a mini pro and i like it, want to keep it but i read that the mp won't be able to run 2.2 due to hw limitations. Is this true? I can't get a clear answer and se are not being very forthcoming.

My concern is that the mp will become outdated in a year (i'll be on a contract) unless i root it but it's under warranty so that's not really a consideration at the moment.

I have an option to return the phone and exchange for an htc wildfire but it's dependant on whether the mini pro can run versions of android beyond 2.1 and how future proof it will be, even on 2.1.

Cheers. :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] bootchee:
Currently noone can update the x10's. While everybody is expecting 2.1 to arrive any second now, many think it'll be very unlikely that we will see any major update beyond 2.1.

That said, in the future it might be possible to update beyond 2.1 through root, flash etc., but this will forfeit yoiur warranty.

I don't know much about the Wildfire, but as it is from HTC I think it will see more future updates.

On the other hand, the X10 mini pro will remain a good phone, so I personally don't see the big nessecity yet in future updates. Also should we get major future updates, the phone should be able to run 2.2 without problems. Android 3.0 I don't know.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] TJ221:
Ok thanks. I was lead to believe that the mini pro wasn't capable of running anything beyond 2.1. It's good to finally get a sensible answer!

The battery life on the wildfire is supposed to terrible so i'd rather keep my mp and anyway i don't fancy having to set another phone up, i've just got it set up how i want. My other option is a W995 but then i'd miss out on Android...

Is it really likely though that SE won't update their xperia phones beyond 2.1, even the X10?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] li_boud:
Both mini and mini pro have better h/w than htc wildfire. Wild fire sports a 528 MHz 7225/7200a cpu, while mini/pro has 600 MHz 7227 cpu.

So, if wildfire can run froyo, so can mini/pro.

Whether we will see a future update from se for 2.2, is another question..

Knowing SE, I doubt that they are ever gonna make 2.2 available on x10. I could be wrong in my assesment though..

But we can always count on our own xda developers to crack the bootloader and make custom roms for it. :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] TJ221:
I thought it was the ram that determined the phones ability to run android. I read that a phone with less 128mb can't run 2.2, well not very well. That's what i was trying to find out from SE but couldn't get an answer.

I've seen the X10 2.1 vids anyway and it looks pretty good. Like bootchee says it's a good phone which is it's purpose fundamentally! The other stuff is icing on the cake but i've seen some pretty cool vids of the wildfire on 2.1, everything running superfast. The wildfire seems to have a lot more options and just overall better functionality as a smartphone.

Guess i'll just have to wait and see what the update brings. ;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] TJ221:
I just want to reiterate the question. Can the mp definitely run 2.2? If not i have to consider whether i'll be happy with 2.1 for 2 years. Also what are the benefits of rooting? I read that 1.6 rooted with titanium backup was as good as 2.1.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Contrarian:
RAM is very subjective. It depends on how many apps are open. Since google in their brilliance decided to build an operating system that keeps all apps open until the memory runs low, it's quite possible that 128mb of RAM isn't enough to play HD games and movies, but on a 320x240 screen why would you want to.

Secondly, the x10 mini has 170 mb of available RAM, not 128mb. The actual NAND chip on the phone is capable of 256mb RAM and 512mb ROM, so obviously SE have thought about "future proofing" the device to some extent. Why they limit it to 128mb available RAM and 256 accessible ROM I have no idea.

In answer to your question, if SE decided to carry out a few tweeks and workarounds here and there, then yes the X10 mini is more than capable of running Android 2.2. The 256mb minimum RAM you read about relates to the amount of RAM available to the OS. It has nothing to do with minimum hardware requirements for running FROYO.

The wilfire has a bigger screen but a slow (outdated) processor, which combined with HTC's bloated "SENSE", results in terrible lag, even on 2.1. I would hate to see it running 2.2.

I think the definitive answer you're looking for is "NO" don't buy an X10 mini if all you want is a 2.2 update, because at this stage it is unlikely SE will upgrade the OS to FROYO. HTC have promised a 2.2 update for the wildfire but I doubt this will go through, due mainly to stability issues. If you're that concerned go to youtube and watch some videos of custom 2.2 ROMs running on the wildfire - I think you will agree it's terrible.

Another option to look at is Huawei. They are releasing some very affordable handsets running 2.2 over the next few months.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] stillka:
Hello,

thank you for the information, I was wondering why "cat /proc/meminfo" giving me so strange amount as 169688kB. Why isn't SE using all possible memory?

It's a marketing? If some memory is blocked, probably without recompiling the kernel is not so easy to enable it...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] li_boud:
Thats the amount of RAM available to you..

169688/1024 = 165 MB (approx)

I remember reading somewhere, dont remember where, that ram and rom size of m pro is 256 each.

§ Android Magic §
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] TJ221:
Thanks for clarifying things for me. The amount of false/ misinformation out there is unbelievable!

To give the hardware that capability and then stop at 2.1 makes makes no sense. This is what i'm getting at with SE! So i take it MT and 16m colours are well within the capabilities of the X10? :rolleyes:

Are they limiting the hardware so people will have to buy newer versions that run 2.2 and above? That's how it looks. Anyway SE claim that the 2.1 update will be equivalent to Android 2.2. Not sure how as it still won't play flash or 2.2 android apps...

Anyway i don't know if you read my first post but i already have the mp. I can exchange it for a W995 or a Wildfire but i like the mp and the android capabilities are great! It's practically free with the contract i'm on so in 6 months i could trade it in or buy another phone with better capabilities such as Huawai.

I'll check the htc out a bit more but from what you say it's off the table. That leaves the W995. I think i'll keep the mini pro and i'll keep an eye on the upcoming android phones.

If SE stop at 2.1 what about developments with xda? Are custom roms above 2.1 possible or will it be determined by the caps SE have put on the hardware?

Cheers!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ionutph:
In 2.1 update the available ram increased from 165mb to 176mb
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] li_boud:
It has a 256 mb ram chip...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ppirate:
How come only part of that is available?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] karun11:
this was something I've been wondering too. why limit the ram? isnt more better?

unknown13x in another thread has stated that SE has skipped 2.2 altogthr nd is working on 2.3 for the new devices. 2.3 reqs same reqs as froyo, so if we can run 2.2, we can run 2.3. All depends on SE.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] chouhan87:
@all: first of all thanks to the most advanced and leading forums in the field.

i would like to know that i have right now 2.1 update 1 on my xp 10 mini and there are updates also like 2.1 update 2 and so on... so will be able to update it and when they are coming???
[Vibrant Android Development] untermensch:
this is a quick little mod to hide the media controller handle on the lock

screen (see screen shot)

1. decompile android.policy

2. open "com\android\internal\policy\impl\UnlockMediaController$1.smali"

3. add # to the beginning of lines 227, 300

4. save and close

5. open "com\android\internal\policy\impl\UnlockMediaController.smali"

6. add # to the beginning of lines 806, 983, 990, 1054, 1255, 1298

7. save and close compile android.policy

8. decompile framework-res.apk

9. open "res\layout\zzz_keyguard_screen_media_controller.xml"

10 change line 5

from:

<RelativeLayout android:gravity="center_horizontal" android:id="@id/zzz_CDHandle" android:layout_width="150.66dip" android:layout_height="68.0dip" android:layout_marginLeft="84.66dip" android:layout_marginTop="102.66dip" />

to:

<RelativeLayout android:id="@id/zzz_CDHandle" android:layout_width="fill_parent" android:layout_height="90.0dip" android:layout_marginTop="102.66dip" />

11. save close and compile framework-res, done.
[Vibrant Android Development] PSP_Hacker:
Nice :D

Thanks for sharing this. Unfortunately I never really use the music controls because I have a pattern lock set up, so the lock screen doesn't appear at all (unlocking goes straight to pattern screen instead of lock screen). Is there a way to reverse this?
[Vibrant Android Development] untermensch:
s0niqu3 asked if I could add some media controls the the ASOP lock screen, so when

I start that project I will also add them to the pattern lock screen also.
[Vibrant Android Development] flexxoo:
thank you for the mod!! but can you please make it flashable to flash it with clockworkmod??
[Vibrant Android Development] MikeyMike01:
Did you ever start that? Just curious.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhoffy22:
I looked through this forum and even googled it and really couldn't find a definitive answer. Picture this scenario: You root your phone and your sd card becomes corrupt so you can't unroot. I pay for the sprint insurance. So what happens here? Even though my warranty is void, will they still replace the phone/fix it?

Basically if anything happens that for some reason doesn't allow me to unroot my phone and I am forces to take it into Sprint without having it unrooted, what will they say?

Worried about this because I share a contract with someone and would not want to upset them if I cannot fix the problem.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MJStephens:
Your root does not reside on your SD card. Even if you lose your card, you can put a new one in there and it will be fine. I back up my SD card about once a week to my computer just in case.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhoffy22:
Okay well lets just say that fort some reason I wasn't able to remove root then what happens? Would insurance still coverit?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhoffy22:
Does voiding the warranty by root mean you can't replace the phone off you have insurance? I have my phone rooted and if something happens where I cant un root my phone if I have to take it into sprint will they still replace it?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
Yes, insurance will still replace your phone. When you call them to file the claim, just say you dropped it and now it's acting funny. They don't care. $100 and they ship you a new one next day. I just went through this with them because I bricked my phone.

I'm kind of confused as to why you need to get your phone replaced. If it's just because your SD card is corrupt, why not just get a new SD card?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pcondosta:
I brought my phone in today because of a broken usb port. They asked if it was rooted (they watched the cyanogenmod boot screen), so I said yes. They didn't care.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhoffy22:
Haha :rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shutupRoman:
the guy at the sprint store tried to tell me about "unlocking" his epic.. i laughed and showed him my home screen.. all he said is "oh, you rooted your evo too?"
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pbrussell:
Yea man I walked into sprint to see about getting an epic and using the evo as just a rooted phone to pair around with and I said to him....(just to start the convo off, maybe he would tell me something I didn't know) and he says " well the epic is awesome! You can okay basketball on it!" As he swyped a ball across the screen and into the basket......i just starred at him...and walked out.... Btw I've still got an evo
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrmylanman:
I just got a replacement phone ordered at the Sprint store.

No deductible (screen was badly cracked), and my phone was running CM6.1 RC1 at the time (obviously not Sense, but they didn't even unlock the phone).

I think insurance is pretty straightforward. Definitely well-spent money...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greensnow:
so i had been getting an odd amount of reboots today and had just sent an email using gmail and started getting a loop of gmail and google services fcs. so I rebooted and when it started back up it asked me to sign back into gmail and setup my phone. every one of my apps is gone and all my system settings, basically it factory restored itself. now I cant download anything from the market...I'm 2 days past the buyers remorse period and I have the extended warranty, do you think they would sympathize and and replace my phone if i called? I'm gonna try when i get off but this is just annoying

if they dont replace it does anyone have any insight as to why this happened and how to prevent it?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bonkasnucca:
My g2 did the same thing today..I had to sign back into my google voice nd the market started working again..but idk if ur running gv..just letting u kno wut worked for me oddly
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2sh0rt:
My wife's g2 did this too about 2 weeks ago. I heard it had something to do with google backup so i disabled it. Hasnt happened since..
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevin337:
my G2 just rebooted on me and when it started up again, it asked for account details just like when i first opened it. EVERYTHING was wiped gone!! Only thing that remained was the pics on the SD card.

Anyone else have this happen?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greensnow:
umm.....me
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nagrom1:
Happened to me too... I didn't see this thread so I started a new one... Kinda irritating!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 93pgt:
there must have bene an error on your phone. there is a partition just incase you get a error. what happens is the phone will reboot and reinstall the factory settings. it happened the first day i had the phone. this is what i was told by the guy in the store
[Desire General] hispeedworm:
Mods Please Delete this thread. wrong section post and i reposted on correct forum...
[Captivate General] RexEscape:
I can't seem to download anything. I got my replacement Cap today and I put my SIM card and battery in it. I started to download SMS Backup and Restore but it wouldn't download or install successfully. I put my SIM card and battery back on my old Cap and tried to download SMS Backup and Restore, and other apps on the Market. Nothing. Can't even download the latest version of Google Maps.

Anybody?

EDIT: Yes, it's down. All of us are experiencing the same Download Pause, or Downloading... (hangups), or Install Unsuccessful. It's not you, or the ROM you've just flashed. It's Googey.

EDIT #2: It's back up and running. Download away!!!
[Captivate General] ScaGin:
No, it's fine. Go to apps, market and clear the cache and try again.
[Captivate General] tjsooley:
having problems too
[Captivate General] Tchen811:
having problems too...
[Captivate General] DJNgoma:
+1, getting the same problems. Appbrain links the items in the Market but the Market aint downloading anything.
[Captivate General] r_3:
ditto-roni
[Captivate General] JCORU001:
Me too, just switched ROMs so glad to see its not just me...
[Captivate General] RexEscape:
I mean, I can get on and browse and all. But I can't download. Clearing the cache, um...it's a brand new phone (from the Warranty dept) that I received and I just put my SIM card and battery in it. Brand spankin' new. Plus, I even did a factory reset thinking it would resolve the problem.

Seems people are having problems downloading too. Great.
[Captivate General] chvybeatsford:
Problems here also....
[Captivate General] TZAR@:
I'm having problems to and I'm still using CM6
[Captivate General] Otterjasie:
Me too
[Captivate General] bubano:
Impossible to download everything :[
[Captivate General] hollywould:
Wow, I'm really glad to hear it's not just me, I've tried every trick I know and nothing has worked. I hope it comes back up soon.
[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
Same here. As of 4:44PM EST, no downloads are working, it immediately says "Download paused"
[Captivate General] neo_31591:
same problem here!
[Captivate General] RexEscape:
and...it's finally on Android Central. http://admin.androidcentral.com/android-market-down-you

Still down like a clown dancing with Julie Brown.
[Captivate General] RexEscape:
It's back! Nothing to see here. ;)
[Captivate General] mcuppens:
Are you sure it's back? Still no downloads here :-(
[Captivate General] RexEscape:
I successfully downloaded Barcode Scanner. It installed just fine. But hmm...it's back down. I can't update Titanium Backup and others... :eek:
[Captivate General] pete_1983:
having just flashed a new ROM was concerned it was my handset, glad its not just me
[Captivate General] AlecKyle:
I don't have it working either. At first i thought it was appbrain's fault since i downloaded it for the first time recently, and then all of a sudden when i use appbrain to try to download something, everything didn't work. Glad to see that's not the issue. I wonder what really happened!
[Captivate General] No Quarter:
I'm having the same issue. Tried clearing cache and uninstalled updated app to see if it'd work. No dice. Even tried reporting my phone.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Cognition B5
[Captivate General] dario.debe:
Frozen here too...:-(
[Captivate General] Bruce Inman:
Many users including myself and in the Cog ROM thread are reporting the same thing.

Downloads are just hanging.

I have 2 currently that are haning.

I don't see anywhere to clear the cache.
[Captivate General] RexEscape:
You know, I was about to report my (new, replacement) phone to AT&T when I found it couldn't download apps. I even did a Factory Reset. Then I went back to my old phone and got the same result. After digging around and posted this thread, it turns out it is the Market, not my phones, my SIM, or my Google account.

Sit tight. Aight?
[Captivate General] dwizzy130:
I have an EVO4G and I have the same issue.... I have tried WIFI, 4G, and 3G and nothing works (also cleared cache just in case). It says downloading until it times out.

dwizzy130
[Captivate General] imerkk:
well now we wait...
[Captivate General] Bruce Inman:
Seems to be up now, just cancel your downloads and restart them.
[Captivate General] imerkk:
did you clear your cache?
[Captivate General] stuff:
It's working for me now. it was stuck for a few moments, but a-ok now.
[Captivate General] imerkk:
working for me again as well...weird
[Captivate General] mindfrost82:
I was starting to get pissed off yesterday because all of the "tricks" for hanging downloads weren't working. Glad to know it wasn't just me.
[Captivate General] zelendel:
Sense it has been found that the market was down yesterday but is back up and running now I deem this thread closed
[Desire General] Nitin985:
when i recieve my desire after it being repaired can i restore to my old nandroid backup after i root or will i have to start all over again
[Desire General] mortenmhp:
It will work no problem :) just root away ;)
[7 Mozart General] Deyan_pk:
Guys I'm really torn between those 2 devices so please help me choose.

Samsung has the better screen and battery life but it's so ugly

The HTC is the most beautifull phone of all WP7 devices and the smaller 3.7 inch size doesn't really bother me....

BUT is the AMOLED display such a big + to buy a whole phone over it??

I read somewhere that the Mozart uses different kind if a display tech. (SLCD) so is it better than the LCD on the old HTCs?
[7 Mozart General] Minos20vt:
Personally I think the Samsung looks great and the Mozart ugly.

Amoled screens seem to suit wp7 well because of the largely black backgrounds, but I prefer the sharpness of SLCD. Amoleds look fuzzy close up, but they have great contrast and saturated colours.
[7 Mozart General] chex13:
SLCD is very good and is sharper, the thing about the AMOLED that I love is the rendering of blacks.

I ended up getting the mozart because the sammy was so ugly and i hated the form factor. The SLCD screen is surprisingly good, the blacks are not as deep and viewing nagles not as good but its definitely not a big issue to me. In the right light and angle you can get the blacks to be almost as good as OLED, but really, unless I have an OLED screen right next to it I'm not conscious of the difference.
[7 Mozart General] AngryNil:
Personally I'm going to set my theme to white, so that negates the use of the AMOLED screen. Go with what you love - you want to feel good holding the device, sharing the device. If you can put up with blacks that aren't real deep and recharging your device 15 minutes earlier each day, then those are really not things to hold back for.
[7 Mozart General] kille9:
Can anyone say anything about the camera?

I stand between omina and mozart...

I want mozart with the 8mp camera, but is it better than the 5 mp camera in omnia?

Which one takes the best pictures and video?

Which one is the fastest (to take pictures)?
[7 Mozart General] TheShowStopper:
guys i have the same quandry... my story goes like this.

Had Mozart in my hand... set it all up, Zune installed on pc, the lot. Did what tunes i wanted and then low and behold, i had a call. yey! brilliant i thought... at least now i have a chance to hear the audio quality first hand... wasn't bad... problem was (and take into account this is a brand spanking new phone we're on about here), the caller couldn't hear me!!! great, so it's faulty... back it goes! this after 2 weeks of being messed about over a naffy slow Touch 3G... anyway, to cut a long story short, i'm still waiting on new stock from Orange, being called ona daily basis and now i see that the Omnia is 'better' but... in what way/s??? what are the main dif's that make it better? i see no variation in memory (i mean neither can accept an sd slot etc can it), the Qualcom chips are the same 1gig... both on moby 7... so... well can someone sum this up for me please cus if there's no real variety so to speak, when i get my call in the morning about 10am, i'll be telling them to wave bye bye to the Mozart and gimme the Sammy Omnia cus i'm basically fed up of being fobbed off and delayed... i want a handset to use that is NOT a Nokia 5300 Xpress Music!!! yes i'm having to use that thing!

So bottom line time folks... someone point me in the direction of one or the other please???

Many thanks in advance, TSS :D
[7 Mozart General] djfuego:
:(

It's a popular phone. I can't get a demo of the phone for love nor money. The Mozart is a winner because it's selling so well. I was thinking of getting one on contract with a dsi for next year when I go on holls . 8mp an 720p video Is a winner. I'd like a 16 gig version though. I have to void the warranty otherwise.
[7 Mozart General] TheShowStopper:
16gig... not according to what i saw o another thread where someone stripped the unit down and swapped the card for a class 0 (or was it class 6?) card mate. have a look round. it's on here somewhere!
[7 Mozart General] FrozenLord:
Well, I got mine factory loaded with a 16 GB card - T-Mobile is the exclusive contractor in Germany for the HTC Mozart and ships them with a 16 GB SD card ;)

So I guess you could look around and might find one which already got a 16 GB card - or just import one from Germany.

I definitely wouldn't void my warranty just yet - who knows what problems might arise in a few weeks (it's still a very new device and I'm already having some issues... so I'd rather have a warranty).

But those are just my thoughts.