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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gravewormx:
This is actually what made me change from windows mobile to android. the fact that it was always crashing. I hated having to reboot my phone every time! sometimes a force kill would spare me this annoyance but sometimes there was no other option. then it took my phone about 1 minute to start up properly. (Since i had spb mobile shell, with a theme install. It actually looked a lot like an android phone lol) I hated having to go through this about 3/4 times a day. I tried WP7, but i found the lack of customization ****ing annoying! I was use to a windows mobile phone and how i was able to switch the look to every last thing...

so I finally decided to get android (again). this was the mobile OS that met most of my needs (at least the major ones); it's customizable, runs pretty quick, and doesn't crash.

another reason that I decided to make the switch to android, is due to the fact that I change phones every 2 to 5 months tops. (just last year i own 5 different devices: 2 androids, 2 windows mobile, and 1 WP7). OEM have made it clear that they will no longer be supporting windows mobile, this means we are limited to hardware. and I want a phone with the latest innovations. such as Dual-core (which i'm planning on getting a Motorola atrix once it's available). obviously there's other things like an AMOLED display, screen size and resolution, RAM, (eventually) antennas for the new networks, front facing camera (eventually, onces it actually becomes useful), etc.

So it sucks having to admit it especially since I loved it, but windows mobile is gonna die inevitably. whether it's slowly or quickly, it's coming....

So cheers to the mobile OS that started a revolution, may you rest in peace :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MTN_HD2:
i like the idea but i just don't see it . OS s are going towards a more "user friendly" (idiot friendly imo) version. devs are working on android because its open source and who can blame them ?

no matter what you do with sense it can't beat an Android Sense . no matter how many apps and games you make you wont be able to beat apple or android market' just in section , you (devs) just don't have the budget (time/money) to do that
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lukas1234567890:
Hi, I just hope that WM can not die..it is the best OS for me..I have TP2 and if I would buy newer device, it would be HD2. But unfortunately there is not any better device than TP2 for me because of hw keyboard..I hope in Windows CE 7.0....it could be something for us, or not?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dy2k:
The battery life in WM 6.5 is the best for me. I can go 3 days with one full charge. I've installed custom roms so I haven't experience glitches or crashes. As for the apps and features of android I can always run it from the SD to use them.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] akshay2000:
I'm with you, people! Windows Mobile really rocks! People who are not into all technicalities just love the way Leo looks (animations, sense and all). They're pissed when I tell them that I love my Gene as well! WinMo simply can't die. As they say, WinMo is ancestor! That means, all other OSs are just kids! I have already tried Android, I was so much surprised that people can even live with it! Moreover, without HTC Sense, it plainly sucks! (What! Scroll through hundreds of contacts, no native smart dialing?) However, sometimes its nice to play games and relax! But, gaming docks like PSP do it a way better! And when I got hands on iOS, I thought it would do nothing but empty my pockets! About to try WP7. (For now, looks nice thing for time-pass!) All these things don't do anything in particular correctly!

On the other hand, our WinMo does everything up to the mark. (Lags and other stuff isn't there if you do the things correctly, even on Gene. And when it comes to our dear Leo, I don't need to talk!) Moreover, it can be modified according to our will to do the task we want and that to the extreme extent!

In short, its not going to die ever! Long live WinMo!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] one_e00:
Agree with you all.. i'll stick into wm, and i've planned to buy another one for my future, just in case i can't get it anymore.. :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sholokov:
I am and will remain a huge fan of WM. It is like an extension of my office computer. Thanks to all the developers, I always find a way to do things that other Operating systems would either not allow or would be a pain to do. Tethering, Transcribing, playing games using a Wii controller (Cobalt), running Ubuntu, running XDAndroid, running JME Commodore64, Calculator emulators, Forex MT4 (a big one for me), full access to shared folder on home computers through Wifi using Resco Explorer, GPS signal sharing...etc etc. WM gives you the opportunity to make all this possible.

I started with SMT5600, then went to HTC wizard and then TP2 T7373. I also use Win CE on my unlocked Mio c520 GPS receiver, using the TP2 to provide internet through bluetooth. Like I said, I havent't found ways of doing all this on any other operating systems, yet. WP7 is a disappointment, Android has potential.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] OrpyDave:
Over the last few months, I've been thinking about WP7 as my HD is approaching the end of it's life. Having read quite a few reviews and reports, I think I'd be more likely to buy an iphone (trust me - this will *never* happen!) before buying a device running WP7.

If it isn't possible to buy a WM6.x device when the time comes, I'll likely switch - reluctantly - over to Android. This is simply because I like to tinker around and customise my device, I like to browse the files using File Explorer and move/organise them as necessary, using the phone as a convenient USB mass storage device, occasionally transferring files by bluetooth when this is more convenient than plugging in the cable. I sometimes pull the uSD card and plug it directly into the PC to transfer larger files quicker. There are many other things I like to do with my phone, most of which will be totally impossible with the latest version of WP7. I want a phone that is smart - not dumb.

I believe this radical redesign of the OS is twofold. Firstly, I guess they are being pressured by the record industry who is moaning that a few people may download a few illegally ripped MP3s onto their devices. Secondly, and more likely, I think they are trying to become "trendy". Unfortunately, Microsoft will *NEVER* fit into that share of the market! Sure, they will pick up a few people along the way, but they will never be even a fraction as popular as the usual "fashion victim devices" such is the iphone & BB. Lets face it, most people who buy these are brainwashed by the logo and don't care about functionality - only about being seen with the stupid thing! So instead, MS are going to likely lose more of their supporters (i.e. many of us on XDA-Dev) along the way by producing a product that is quite literally based on mobile 'phone functionality from the early 1990s (I had one!). Why take this HUGE leap backwards in technology and lose thousands of loyal customers? This will ultimately cause sales to plummet, even less people will be interested, Devs will move onto other projects on other OSs/devices, and the OS will then be cancelled.

I really do hope that WM will survive, it's what I've been used to for the past 5+ years and I can't think of using anything else. But with the latest incarnation of WP, I think all flavours of the OS are living on borrowed time...

Dave
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] addicus:
Please read this and look at what this developer has made for the future of WM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=844005

I believe this could be a great base for developers to take advantage of WM and we can have viable phones for quite a while. I'm not a developer, but an avid user. One developer posted a program made using this and I swear it was freaking awesome. The whole thing was WP7 smooth and visually compelling.

Please look at the Smooth Panorama and see if it can help us keep our phones useful and fun!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] spookamiester:
I love this!

WM 6.5 should never die, it should continue to develop and deliver.

I have now moved onto a DHD from my Touch HD but still use my Touch HD for things like festivals etc and will always support the development.

I have to admit, as much as I love my Android I still miss some of the features and apps on my Winmo like Tomtom and Remotetouch.

The battery life and speed from the Onkolog ROM were incredible and the all round customisation was amazing.

Winmo must never die
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] georgekg:
Never had any of mentioned problems with my stock ROM on HD2.

BTW I think its a best business phone on the market. Fully customizable (capable to swallow everything from its native WM to the biodiesel :)) just kidding), very stable, have much pro and apps for a spare time. And for all those that miss some "serious" games: - people WM is made for smart-phones, not for playing games - by a PSP or some similar device. If you want a COD, WOW, CS and such - phone is not the right device for you!

My wife have an Wildfire with android - such a disappointment! When I buy an HD2 it was just an extension of my PC. It wasn't necessary to learn tons of new stuff like it was necessity when my wife bought an android phone!

Someone here nicely sad: if you want your ass be owned by Google, go and buy Android powered phone. Too much power is in the hands of google.... android, gmail, gmaps, chrome and all that covered with "open source" Everyone was concerned that MS had so much power with IE integrated into OS and now? Where are all those "world savers" when google want to track and control half a world with their "free" stuff?

I'd like to see iPhone to do what HD2 can with an old WM ;)

Yes I miss flash support in opera, but I can live with that...

Long live WM!

Respect to ALL WM developers!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pepapol:
Well, the problem with WP7 is, that it not only looks the same in all the phones (as many have pointed out - no customizing), but the devices themselves will be too similar. All of them will have the same 3 buttons and a camera button and the same resolution. What's the fun in choosing between phones, that look like copies, only with different brands. I wouldn't really mind the restrictive nature of the system - like iPhone, it would be a lot more user friendly for non-geek people and like it or not, these make out the biggest number of customers. But this is completely killing any kind of diversity on the smartphone market.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tpimp420:
Windows Embedded Handheld 6.5

Hey everyone I am here to add my support. I am currently working on a project for wince 6. I wish winmo 6.5 had the features of Windows Ce 6! All problems would be solved and we would have good games, and other applications.

But long story short, we don't. We have an old kernel and very poor road ahead for updates. The problem with Winmo 6.5 is the Windows ce 5.2 core underneath. However, I do see some hope in the form of Windows Embedded Handheld 6.5. I don't know if anyone has gotten theirs hands on this yet. I have been scoping the website for sometime and it has changed over time. There was less info on the website before areound mid-november. Haven't seen many changes lately but I hope this is something worth noting.

If you read the whole thing you may notice the term "built on Windows Mobile 6.5" which scares me a great deal. Even if this never makes it onto our current devices (I got a TP2), this may be the windows photon we were waiting for. lol here is to hoping for the best. Also I did get the Qt framework running on windows mobile (albeit with tons of memory consumption). It ran clean and I can post up a tic tac toe app I wrote. Ui is drawn using the Qt raster engine which is pretty quick on the draw. The C++ used to write it helps as well.

I am all for doing something good for windows mobile, I love this OS when it works. Been loyal for 4+ years now and counting. But when those tegra 2 phones come out I don't know if I will be able to resist jumping ship if I absolutely have to. Here's to hoping WEH 6.5 is sweet!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] retsam88:
I asked twice on different boards, to help me with some app, in exchange for money(and i REALLY mean for money). No one replied. So, when there's money but no devs, what to do?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] myc:
As for me I have a Asus P535 and HTC TyTN II that I am still using as long as 4G has yet to be standardized and while replacement parts are still available. .
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Wevenhuis:
I do not think windows mobile is dead. Windows mobile is more mature than windows phone 7. Windows 7 is still in its early stages of kinks and issues, which we have to allow to develop. But in my experience this takes well over a year, just like the beginnings of windows mobile. I think the windows mobile community could also make ik more worthwhile if we start working together more. There are many people saying that MS is not supporting windows mobile any more. So we have to do it ourselves now. What I find frustrating is that enthusiasts who would like to help, still have to search through a mountain of information and data on even how to tweak the OS, let alone make apps. It would be nice if there would be one nice central, organised and easy accessbile database to start helping with the continuation and improvement of the winodws mobile OS and its apps. It would be nice if we could help eachother out on a quick start, and pick things up from there. I would very much like to participate. I have some ideas as well. I have little coding and programming advice, but know how to do little tweaks and flash ROMS. My frustration lies in a clear source of back to basics help, and grow from there. I can imagine others have the same issue, and would genuinely like to help.

So if you're out there and willing to start easy but efficiently, please do.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mlegal:
Greate OS

Yes

I have seen this on http://www.mobilepractices.com/

This is a greate advance and a proof that WM6.5 can do better

Look for example the specifications of Samsung i8000, is a greate phone running WM 6.5

Look old games for WM like Syberia 2, MouseMaze and other with greate graphics

I have read and read all forums to make a decision on change os to Android o WP7

I think Android is a greate os but when I use them, I feel a certain insecurity and this is like more a entertainment device, no secure, no serious.

The WP7 is horrible, no customization. Is a "totaly new interface" but what new?

White on black and minimalistic graphic is new?

This has a long way to be good

The WM6.5 is more a serious user os and with a good job can make better, for now even better then wp7 I think

Thanks :)

HD2 T-Mo

Stock 3.14
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DukeNukem:
I know I have a new app for Windows Mobile that I hope to release next week on the App Store so I'm still coding for it.

That little shot that Intel fired out about running Windows on a mobile device, and Windows for ARM devices, that certainly scared a few folks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] olyloh6696:
+1 greatthread i wish MS continued WM. Now i have made the switch to android.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Girvo:
I love this idea.

Now, I'm not much of a developer, I've messed around with some basics once-upon-a-time, but I no longer have a WM phone. I moved to Android, and guess what? I hate it. It doesn't have the power that I'm used, and I don't mean customisation: I mean proper Exchange support, proper tasks support, proper multi-tasking, proper OneNote sync. Android and even WM7 do not compare, so I'm coming back into the fold by getting a HTC HD Mini.

Now, I think if we focus our efforts on the HD Mini (HVGA) and HD2 (WVGA), the capacitive screens and fast chipsets give us a base to work off.

My skills lie in web-development, so I propose that we have a development website: something that is solely resources and tutorials; clear and focused on showing the best way to do things, rather than every way. I will gladly donate my time to help, and we use XDA here as the forum for the co-ordination and help :) I'd love to give back to this community that has helped me so much over the years (TyTN2 represent!).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tpimp420:
Windows 7 on touch pro 2

Lol screen pixel dpi needs to come up some way before it would be usable on a phone. Though if they could get 1920x1080 pixel count on 4.5 inches... mean. But in attempt to get this topic back on track.

What I want from my phone is a better stability (no hanging every other swipe) would involve writing cleaner threading and device drivers. Maybe even a port to ewer devices, I.E. Use HD2 drivers to get G2 or or evo running winmo 6.5.3. :) that a fun concept to imagine...

Found another article on WEH 6.5
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] olyloh6696:
Just outta interest, what android phone did you have?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rosedog:
+1 to what TeDeV said...

My taskbar has NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER gone "blank" and I've been an avid PPC user for the pas 8yrs. Even when I moved from HP PDA's to my Palm Treo 750 (even when my wife had the HTC Tilt) to my current HD2. MS could have added a kill switch for running background task but like always they choose not to.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] will9895:
Yes!

I'm totally behind this, other OSes probably are better for other people, and i did just see a G2 and like it a lot, but its WM6.5 for me. As a frequent XDA downloader that is, can't develop sorry!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] olyloh6696:
My TG01 had 1/100 times, but that was in some buggy beta rom i tried
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rosedog:
I should also point out, and I don't know if its just me but sometimes I miss a stylus for my HD2.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] knatdesim:
My first truly exciting experience happened with my HTC Wizard - the first device that I had owned running windows mobile v5.0 - and am really enjoying it's flexibility though it would make sense to do some rom upgrades to see what more is capable of. At this point I am just enjoying the flexibility I have found and the extensions I am finding as the time progresses.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] olyloh6696:
Yeh, i have a Toshiba TG01, a resistive touch screen, that comes with no stylus to insert to the phone. the phone works great without one, but i wish i could carry one for swype :P You can get a capacitive stylus for your HD2, i have one for my Orange San Francisco and Samsung Galaxy Tab :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jdep1:
I think windows mobile is coming to an end. I have supported wm since my tmobile wing days cooking my own ROMs & so on & i still think its more powerfull than other operating systems. The problem is that MS is moving on & so is HTC. With no support there is not much we could do.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] revenge50:
Windows Phones r awesome and sexy and competitors of Android
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] olyloh6696:
+1

HTC have given up support on WM, they have set their mind to competeing with Apple is through android. they aren't even too bothered about the new wp7 os. their 'flagship' wp7 devices carry old hardware. they cleralyhave set their minds on android.

I wish WP7 was just an upgrdaable same os of WM6
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mhfrealmadrid:
hey guys

im happy to find this thread! my heart got relaxed!:D

For me, as a regular user of leo with WM, a pocket pc is a pc in my pocket!...i want my desktop in my pocket whenever i dont have access to my laptop. i want to work on photos with photoshop by that pc in my pocket ("pocket artist"), i want to make slides for tomorrow presentation when im in bed ("Presentations 2010"), i want to fix my schedule when im in bus having a hand on the pipe above ("Plan maker 2010"), i want to do whatever i do with my texts in laptop, by my pocket pc ("textmaker 2010"), i want to use my PPC as a tablet mouse for my laptop ("Entisoft pocket tablet"), i want to have a perfect engineering calculator in my pocket but with smaller size ("Space Time") i want to mix soundtracks, make videoclips, edit videos, draw, note something, etc all by something in my pocket!...my HD2(WM) says hello from my pocket!;)

you know how great it is when your friend sees your Leo, picks it up, taps on the lcd and presses some buttons then says "those Chinese ****,right? how much have you payed for it?" and then when i show him what i do with it, he says "i think i gotta buy one as my next"!!

For me, 'fun' is not playing with high graphic games, 'fun' is drawing a cartoon from my friend in that angle of classroom and sending it to him, then seeing his smile when he turns back looking at me! yeah it's fun for me;)

and for me 'enjoying your mobile phone' is when you get "flashtheme generator", put a little flash GAME as the animation and amazingly you see you can play it in your Homescreen on your HTC Touch Elf (my old ppc).

anyway, for me, OS means WM, no more no less! if WM dies, my technological life will be dead!

waiting for new events in my absolutely alive HD2 with WM!:)

i miss it too, specially when i want to draw something!;)

cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mmjojomm:
yeah, I am not sure why, but my WM has best battery life of the all Androids or WP7, even with all apps running in background and eating half of cpu :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] olyloh6696:
Love your enthusiasm :P For me when i pull out my Toshiba TG01 (disguised as a HD2 - Big screen, Same software HTC Sense 2.5) My friends would say like that 'that's that chinese ****, right?' instead when they use it, they have the oppsite reaction.

Their respponsd is

1) My iPhone rapes your phone :/

2) My Android phone kills it

3) Its too big

4) It looks hard to use.

Never once have i got a postive comment, after i tell them it is a WinMo phone :\
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chal:
owning a hd7. it really looks nice but after just one week i switched back to my hd2 with wm. the hd2 is my 11th or so wm device and i really cant live without it. already got a second one (just in case) from my friend because he switched to android.

i think i just try to unlock my hd7 and put it on ebay...

... and after that i will start developing something bigger than my useragentswitcher for wm just to give something back to the best community here ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NYLimited:
+1 on GV especially if it can make dialing thru GV simple and transparent. Or, a simple calling card app.. . :)