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[G2 and Desire Z General] Dalamak:
sorry, thought this trhead was started by, a newbie, coming off a fresh upwrapiing and a quick google search of newly arrived G2. The 1 post history and screen name through me off, it is great work. Just a big fan and practioner of Jtag and its warm goodness.

Best of luck to u
[G2 and Desire Z General] qqyycchh:
we will try our best. thanks everyone for your replys
[G2 and Desire Z General] grankin01:
Understood, there have been a lot of "hey, have you guys seen this" threads. :)

Which, to be fair, aren't ALWAYS bad threads.
[G2 and Desire Z General] veritasaequita:
this is awesome...i was starting to break down a little bit more every day. T-mob and HTC are trying to break me. You my friend are putting in WORK!!!

keep up the good roooooot!:)
[G2 and Desire Z General] lightningtrip:
my phone shows the same ..but its "Visionary"...whats the difference here??
[G2 and Desire Z General] Alex.xu:
the same like the pic?:confused::confused:
[G2 and Desire Z General] rhcp011235:
For those that are too lazy to copy and paste. Here are the links from the topic. Since i can post :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8qFUPo9lR7Q

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/qqyycchh/IMAG0003.jpg

Also, OP, Why does this seem to be booting into 1.6? That bootup screen doesn't seem to be 2.2
[G2 and Desire Z General] SuperDave81:
Although I agree the bootup animation is from older versions of Android, It's clearly 2.x+ as shown at 1:20 by the lwp, phone app instead of dialer, and a few other apps in the drawer.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Alex.xu:
Yep.It's 2.2...We applied an AOSP rom to the phone after root. So it doesn't have the Vision booting image.:D
[G2 and Desire Z General] xdviper:
So let me get this straight, no hardware modding of any sort?

And the emmc chip permanently r/w? and also recovery and hboot also r/w?

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] aizs1986:
good news bro,but still waiting for next update:D

maybe i can have a try if u agree
[G2 and Desire Z General] Alex.xu:
If you reboot...You need to root again..But our method needn't
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkeee:
When you say 'our' method, who are you referring to? With whom are you collaborating?

And will an average user be able to root their phones without any additional equipment using your approach? (Let's suppose NAND can be unlocked).
[G2 and Desire Z General] ~~Tito~~:
Getting my G2 tommorow, hopefully this ushers in some awesome rooty and nandy ness. lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
This is bs... how can you flash a different Rom without it being nand unlocked?! makes no sense. then you say you need a special device, what the heck are you talking about? obviously, its been jtaged or an engineering model from htc employee or something. this sounds fishy to me... I'm calling bs. explain how this was done or quit trolling!
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
Wait so are you booting from the SD or what? if so... its been done. Make some creaking sense, man!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Alex.xu:
1. The NAND is not unlocked but disabled.

2. The phone is bought from the retail store and definitly not an engineering model or something.

3. We use a "Smart Card" and a S58 file to disable the NAND. They are the special devices.

4. It is not booting from the SD card.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Alex.xu:
I am working on the G2 root with some of my friends.

:)
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
Ah, I see. Now that is an interesting approach... see, I would explain that in your original post so people dont think youre nuts. No offense... its just people are kind of uneasy and frustrated about the nand lock and one very "un funny" hoax has been played on us before regarding unlocking the G2. I dont see how this will help anything unless you planned to implement this somehow without the special sim. I'm still unclear about how this works but it sounds like it might be usefully if we could apply this without the card which I doubt will happen. are changes sticking on a reboot? well, thanks for the info. we hope to see a detailed explanation/instructions when you get a chance. looks like it could be promising! Good luck and keep us updated, please!
[G2 and Desire Z General] setspeed:
Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "Smart Card" and an "S58 file"?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
sino8r - rooting is now a competition. Why should they give away technical details before finishing their work?

Competition is a double-edged sword: on the one hand it attracts people who are qualified for the job. On the other hand, it encourages working in small, closed groups of people.
[G2 and Desire Z General] userfriendlyme:
Well i can agree with that statement. I certianly appreciate the preview and can also understand his concern as well. I guess were all hoping this is real and that there's nothing needed we don't already have to root the phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rhcp011235:
Team,

What was your motivation to get this done?

and how soon can we see a test for this?

And, where are you guys from?

Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z General] krayshunist:
You'd be surprised how much collaboration has been going on with this phone. HTC managed to piss many people off.

Having said that, this rooting method is very dirty and not recommended. These guys have even said on irc that they would rather wait for a software unlock. So while this is a nice technical demonstration, I'm afraid there's little practical in this particular method. Still, kudos to these guys!
[G2 and Desire Z General] qqyycchh:
well let me make this clear.

we are working on a method which doesnt require the smart card.

a smart card is pretty much a sim card that will allow you to unlock your device with the card and file(its rare so its not for Everyone).

the method detail will not be given.

the root will not refresh after reboot, its a prem root.

the rom runs in the phone, not sd card.

thanks everyone for the support.
[G2 and Desire Z General] cbmm:
i appreciate any work you guys are doing... some of you guys walk around with something stuck up ur ass, eat some damn xanax and chill. there needs to be some damn rules that prevent some of you blasting people every time they try to accomplish something.
[G2 and Desire Z General] o>c:
After watching the youtube video, I see where the team comes from ; )

So can this method be developed into one that ordinary users can try on their own?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Vandam500:
Thanks for the update and even more for working hard on this :) Can't wait!
[G2 and Desire Z General] hansalvato:
1.whats the expected release date for the non-smartcard root?

2.estimate of progress?

hope you guys get this out soon and claim your reward for root!this seems like it has potential! :)

BTW:if theres anything the community can help with post it!
[G2 and Desire Z General] legendary1022:
^ that is probably the downside of this whole bounty thing. Nobody wants to share our collaborate because they want the money. I'm not saying I wouldn't do the same thing but it may slow the progress in this. The whole community is waiting to see how root comes about because it looks like htc is moving towards emmc for all there phones.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] xdviper:
Thats the good part now, now we have devs working on newer htc phones with the same eemc chip, hopefully it will speedup the process
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
No one is blasting anyone. People are just curious, excited, and anxious... which may translate, to you, that folks are being blasted. Folks are bit jaded at this point and have good intentions that may have been interpreted incorrectly. Refrain from cursing, please.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
My thoughts exactly! this nut will be cracked soon enough especially since all the new htc devices will be nand locked. this smart card hack will be a nice step forwards although it won't unlock the nand... it will allow us to flash custom Roms which is nice and all were really lacking, imo.
[G2 and Desire Z General] cbmm:
well then.. my apologies, but there was a dev from china the other day that was in the process of rooting the g2 and had a few questions. someone from here made a racist comment about china. i have been browsing these forums for almost two years and ive seen alot of people get blasted for some really minor issues. it would be nice if some posters would "tone" done a little.
[G2 and Desire Z General] qqyycchh:
well racist is still all over US, you have to agree with it.

we are chinese and we live in US or other countries before and found you can just ignore those racist people and help others, sooner or later those racist people will come back and learn that racist is not gonna help them move any further.
[G2 and Desire Z General] qqyycchh:
thanks for everyone . we cant really estimate a time yet, but will work hard for our community =)
[G2 and Desire Z General] The Great NY:
keep up the great work guys. looking forward to updates on this
[G2 and Desire Z General] henryr934:
Good job guys keep the good work
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
edit: whoops. delete this.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rhcp011235:
Hey,

Is this the smart card you are talking about? It's about 2700 USD.

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f16...htc-factory-smart-card-sale-exchange-1118303/

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z General] rhcp011235:
How come after i posted that link? Like this whole thread died?

I have a feeling thats all these guys are doing lol and that chip cost about 2500 USD.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
That is what they are doing but where did you get that price from? that's crazy expensive. nand unlocked isn't worth that, lol! They claim they were using the HTC smart card and were trying to find out how the card was bypassing the nand to implement it into a hack for everyone. they've got a long road ahead of them...
[G2 and Desire Z General] crazedfan88:
looks great, cannot wait, thankyou
[G2 and Desire Z General] jordanjay29:
Because you posted 4 hours apart on a Saturday night/Sunday morning? What do you expect, it's the weekend, plus it's Halloween weekend for the States, people have parties to attend, movies to go see, dates to be on (with a significant other or a significant hand :P), etc.

Don't take it to heart. ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] rhcp011235:
HAHAHA. thats the price of the card.

Contact the seller. As i said in previous posts. The cards cost way more then phones itself.

This is not the way to do it. But, perhaps they can reverse eng the cards and get the info on how the card does it? or perhaps get some way for us to do it software wise.

This will not count for the bounty/fun money fund. 100%

No one will be paying 2k+ to get NAND unlock and root :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] condi:
who said that we'll need smart card????

they're using the smartcard to achieve the target..

don't hinder the team in their work... let them do this,

you're not helping posting such b__sh_t :p:p
[G2 and Desire Z General] d-que:
Question will Visonary temp work after the ota
[G2 and Desire Z General] jordanjay29:
Uhh, wrong topic?

And what OTA? Show me the file or the T-Mobile press release and then we'll talk OTA.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mlevin:
Bump. Could someone at least define these terms a bit more clearly? Otherwise it's all just voodoo and magic.
[G2 and Desire Z General] d-que:
True off topic but just was wondering iff I'm really interested in the work of all the devs support the forms hourly. And true tmobile haven't announced that's that the G2 was going to get an ota for wifi calling or tethering but I love the temp root quick fast and simple. Would love to see full root but I not the best at following direstion
[G2 and Desire Z General] zeeklancer:
Its a good thing you don't have the power to lock threads then...
[G2 and Desire Z General] rhcp011235:
To whomever asked. I already layed out the root with the smart card. No one here is buying 2500 smart cards to unlock their phones.

Read my post. They are working on a non-smart card way. They said.

This smart card method has been known pre-g2 that card can unlock ANY HTC device. Nothing new.
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
2500 for that? Talk about inflation.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
That's what I said but... yes, that's what it sounds like. we'll see after a while if anything comes from this but we'll have the NAND unlocked soon enough. with the release of future htc devices in the next month or so... the cause will get even more support. its a huge speed bump right now but we'll figure it out! Patience will be needed, that's for sure.
[G2 and Desire Z General] o>c:
I have seen in another country some sellers are selling G2s with rooted sense rom for localisation purpose

they did that through this way?
[G2 and Desire Z General] mt3g:
are you sure it wasn't the HTC desire Z?
[G2 and Desire Z General] ~~Tito~~:
I think that there will be some breakthrough soon enough, more and more HTC devices are coming out with this lock, more and more devs will have to push to break the lock.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Good luck guys !
[G2 and Desire Z General] drumsforjs:
Talk about bankrupt lol.

Well good luck to the team you guys rock.!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] fastludeh22:
Here's my question. If you had a smart card laying around (more people do then they think, ie old directv, dish network, some cable companies cards are smart cards) and knew someone with a card programmer, could you program a card to "be" this htc card and then root this way?
[G2 and Desire Z General] JanetPanic:
I would if I knew that the solution would work moving forward for at least the next couple of generations of HTC phones. Heck it would be tempting to me just so I could unlock it for Cyanogen and team so that they could move forward with testing the G2 on a rooted phone while a more viable root method was researched.

2,500 USD is not chump change but also not outside of scope of consideration for me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rhcp011235:
Buy it. and unlock all our phones :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] bled82:
I also have a smart card that was used in an id i need for a job i worked that was very secure and would like to know if this is an option ? Great work team please ignore all the negative people out there and go forth and kick butt, good luck!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Kubernetes:
I was thinking that myself, but the capital cost is prohibitive. Even if you charged people $20 to unlock their G2s (which would probably be reasonable at this point), you'd have to unlock a ton of phones before making your money back. Considering that most people would have to mail their phones in, it would be a tremendous hassle.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xdviper:
Not only that, shipping their phones to complete strangers. With the risk of the shipping carreir losing the package.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sovereignty68:
I wouldn't mind to buy the sim and unlock for you guys if you are willing to pay $20+shipping per device.
[G2 and Desire Z General] SuperDave81:
DONE! Let us know when you've bought it!
[G2 and Desire Z General] minotauri:
the card is a sim card and i think tenfar and his team tried that already and wasnt able to "clone" it. at least that's what i picked up from IRC.
[G2 and Desire Z General] blackknightavalon:
Does anyone know if either Stericson or Jesusfreke are on this job?
[G2 and Desire Z General] xile6:
I think they been out of the game 4 a while
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alamein 300:
I use the supplied email handler in my ATT Captivate and seeing some issues recently. Any emails with any attachments will just sit loading forever and never truly display me the attached file. its doing this for both my hotmail and gmail accounts. Anyone know of an issue/fix or have another email handler to suggest that might be a lot friendlier to use then the stock one?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogue9:
I too was disappointed with the stock email client. Take a look @ K-9 Mail in the market it's free :)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alamein 300:
Sweet, downloading now
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dave the Knave:
K9 is the ****. Used it from day 1 of owning my phone

Sent from my Captivate
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jiggajoe506:
Why does my battery suck so much! I am running fresh 3.3.0.1, no custom kernels. I thought my battery should be better? Here is a screen shot of my battery info.

Thanks in advance and sorry just really flared now.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drmacinyasha:
Nice screenshot. It's so amazing I can't even read the text on that 90x160 link-less image.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phatmanxxl:
Run and tell that, run and tell that, home home homeboy!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -shift-:
err... lolwut?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
It looks like Android system ate up your battery? Use spare parts and see if that can give you more detailed infomation about what is using your battery. You can also try OS Monitor and see if there is anything that is hogging your processor

lol
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phatmanxxl:
This is very contagious and catchy, you have been warned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy S I9000 General] damenchoy:
I flashed ZSJP8 Hong Kong ROM and then applied the Super Optimized JPM-JP6 Kernel V3.2 in this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=811660

It works!

The Quadrant Score is now about 1900 to 2000 with 337M RAM available.

I have tested it for two days. So far there is no problem. The phone is flying....

Thanks for laststufo and sztupy for their contribution to the existence of such a beautiful tweak to the stock ROM.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bricheun:
Have you tried version 3_4 their latest optimized version?

Where can you download JP8 - fast?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] damenchoy:
See the thread here for JP8 download:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=814969&highlight=zsjp8

No I have not tried the latest 3_4.... but will be very interested to see if anyone has tried esp. it includes the overclocking option
[Droid X Themes and Apps] mruno:
Is it possible to port Firesheep over to Android?

If you don't know what Firesheep is read hxxp://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/10/29/2255258/Herding-Firesheep-In-NYC-mdash-Do-Users-Care

Firesheep homepage: hxxp://codebutler.com/firesheep
[Droid X Themes and Apps] lysdexik:
Hahahahaha, that would be absolutely HILARIOUS. I used that software @ my local Panera Bread and people were honestly freaking out.
[Droid X Themes and Apps] Explodee:
I couldn't get this to work. Everytime I turned it on it would kill my internet connection and it would be a blank page saying Waiting for www.whatever.com until it timed out

Sent from my DROIDX
[Droid X Themes and Apps] mruno:
from Windows or OSX?
[Droid X Themes and Apps] SysAdmin-X:
That would be amazing if someone could port this!
[Droid X Themes and Apps] st1ngr4y:
Bump for practical jokes :-) have some friends over for a lan party... unlimited fun *evil grin*
[Droid X Themes and Apps] s0litaire:
{Insert evil grin}

If only I knew how to program /port

I'd love this on my Android..

(For security training and testing purposes only.....) ;)
[Droid X Themes and Apps] henihazbay:
any update on this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] azaznin:
i have look at other post regarding to this problem and i think no one got the answer

for the benifit of the new user and newly registered members

cannot send text massage or

message cannot be sent

for Globe.Smart,Sun,Redmobile within the Phillippines

Start>Settings>

Connections>advance Network> SMS services> Sms Over>

select or Change to "GSM"

Hit ok

i hope it helps
[Fascinate General] lolreconlol:
When your phone is in vibrate mode, how do you make it vibrate when you receive a text message? The way mine is set up it doesn't vibrate or do anything, it may as well be on silent.
[Fascinate General] rm2011:
text messaging

settings

notifications

check also vibrate when a txt is received.
[Touch HD General] namsss:
Hi everyone ! I think that time to run android direct from NAND cause many error about SD memory .

Someone have any idea ?
[Touch HD General] accountabc:
Devs are working on it, but from what I understand it is quite a lot of work, so don't expect to see it anytime soon
[HD2 General] kkeller416:
So in my original software or the new updated 3. 1 oem software or custom Rom, or in Android . when I try to reboot the phone holding down the red hangup button I have no touch screen function to select reboot, or power off. Anyone know of a fixe or something i can checkout?
[myTouch 4G General] dynamikd:
Does this phone have 4 gb internal memory? Does it have full flash support?
[myTouch 4G General] Whosdaman:
Reports say it has 1.2 GB internal

EDIT: others say 4 GB...
[myTouch 4G General] floepie:
Some say both, maintaining that the "missing" 2.8 GB is reserved for some sort of anti-root tech.
[myTouch 4G General] stoute:
On mine I show an available .95 GB available. I have only updated the apps that come on it and downloaded about 4 or 5 apps from market.
[myTouch 4G General] dynamikd:
You have got to be kidding me! You mean that tmobile once again were not truthful about the usable internal memory?
[myTouch 4G General] Arcadia310:
That's a little harsh..
[myTouch 4G General] NexVision:
Just like the G2 the phone utilizes a 4gb chip and has 2gb available to the end user with all apps removed and only the basic android with themes u have 1.84gb available to you.
[myTouch 4G General] acejoker25000:
Its not a big deal though that's still a whole lot of apps I mean I haven't even filled 800mb and I have over 100apps so filling 950 mb (.95gb) is gonna be hard for every user
[myTouch 4G General] sym1:
I was under the impression that with Froyo, the apps were installed to the SD by defaullt. Is there an option in settings/applications/manage applications, to move apps? I'm only coming from my G1, and whenever I installed a Froyo rom, I had to manually move my apps to SD. Now granted, the MT4g has much more internal memory than my little G1, so I had no other option. Just wondered if you could do the same with this if needed.
[myTouch 4G General] borodin1:
Not by default. App developers have to enable apps2sd within the app. Even then, only some data goes on your card (like graphics, sounds, etc) but some data has to stay in the internal memory.

No worries though, even 1gb is more then enough. I went app crazy when I picked up G2 and I barely put a dent into it. I downloaded 60-70 apps and used up may be 100MB.
[myTouch 4G General] Whosdaman:
No Froyo has the option to install to sd by default. You don't need the app2sd anymore
[myTouch 4G General] dynamikd:
What he was saying was that apps needed to be developed with the ability to save to the sd card. People are under the impression that all apps automatically do this, but that isn't the case. Out of all the apps I have downloaded, approximately 30, only around 10 of them can be saved to the sd card. The android market place need to make it a prerequisite that all apps have this feature built in. Heck if you use the xda app, you'll notice that it cannot be saved to the sd card either.
[myTouch 4G General] TmobileDash12:
does the myTouch 4G have a SLCD display?

thanks in advance for your reply
[myTouch 4G General] TmobileDash12:
sorry for the bump, i might be getting it today.

and is the screen plastic or glass?

if glass, is it gorilla glass?

i see different specs on different sites =/
[myTouch 4G General] Snuggl3s:
Screen is a LCD, as for the glass i was recently informed that the G2 and MT4G have Gorilla Glass! Hope this helps. =)
[myTouch 4G General] TmobileDash12:
aww, if only mytouch was slcd or samoled. wouldve been perfect :'[
[myTouch 4G General] NexVision:
T

Pretty sure yr wrong there since they both use slcd and the HTC rep said neither of them use gorilla glass but a tempered glass specifically designed for them.
[myTouch 4G General] infinityhombre:
I was told this by an HTC rep as well