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[myTouch 4G Android Development] mikejet:
Here's a question, how much does HTC Sense have to do with the phone?

I'm rooted and running the stock rom still but I have Launcher Pro instead of Sense.

Why does Sense still load up? What's it doing exactly?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] :
By replacing the home all you are doing is replacing the launcher of sense. Everything else like the dialer and sms app runs because of sense. you can only truly get rid of sense by using an aosp rom.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jentzschman2000:
How can one change individual sound options? Like the unlock/lock sounds, the sound when you select somethings, etc..?

Running CM7 #12
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
OK here is my question? Apparently Wi-Fi N does not work. Now i've found a method to enable it but its for the EVO 4G now would this work for the MT4G or is there another solution that could possibly be developed?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] GazaIan:
I GOT ONE !!! So, never in the light of day will we see HTC Sense on CM7? I freaking love Sense to just abandon it, but CM7 is just too tempting... especially the battery life..

Also, do you update the CM7 nightlies via Settings? Or do you have to flash them from Clockwork Recovery?

Oh, and again with Sense, I mean the launcher only, because I love the widgets, flip clock, animations from the flip clock, and i even love seeing "via HTC Sense" under my Facebook updates. I don't need the whole phone "Sensified", just the laucher.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Jaskwith:
I haven't done such things, but I believe I saw a thread about exactlty that in the "themes and apps" section...go look.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Jaskwith:
First of all, NO...you will never see sense on cm7..because Cyanogen is an AOSP distribution, go read like the OP in CM6 or any other CM thread, and one of the first lines you will read is, "THIS IS NOT SENSE, DONT ASK FOR SENSE STUFF..etc etc.."

Second, not sure I understand your question, but Nightlies are flashed just like anyother ROM, cept since you are doing so many, and most are just minor updates, you don't really need to wipe anything, just download flash and your good. If you have ROM manager Premium, you can register your device and it will auto DL/Notify you of updated Nightlies

If you want a phone that is Sense like, but CM7 is appealing because of battery life?...use an ICED glacier ROM, they have spectacular battery life. If you are are looking for a Gingerbread based, sense-like ROM...try out NEXSENSE...thing that is what you are looking for...Otherwise I can tell you that anything you like about the sense framework, can pretty much be downloaded via market as an app, although it might cost you money.

Overall, I was hesitant to get off Sense at first too, I "tried" CM7 back in the alpha stages, and I haven't gone back since. I flashed back to Gorilla's DHD Sense ROM and that lasted for like 10 minutes, I LOVE CM7...and would recommend if you try it, give it a legitemate run...don't just run into something you aren't used to and give up, flash back to something you are comfortable with.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] GazaIan:
Well then I guess I'mm be going to CM7 pretty soon! Probably just have to get Fancy Widget or something, and maybe some fake animations from somewhere.

Also, I hear the front facing camera doesn't work because it is incorrectly accessed. Is this true for the FFC and the back camera too? I love my back camera and use it frequntly, and if it doesn't work, I'm staying away from CM7.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Jaskwith:
Back camera works better IMO... the FCC doesn't work in some apps... it works in tango... but most application developers haven't written their apps to work with gingerbread code which is mostly what cm7 is derived from or based with or whatever....other then that it runs smoothly... sometimes things will not work hundred percent but its usually a simple fix like reboot or clear data etc... and this is to be expected because they are still in the nightly phase... still have to get in to RC or release candidate form.. and then after a couple of those, an official release would have everything fully working, but I use my phone a lot and everything is working and stblable for me.

Sent from my MT4G running Gingerbread :)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] GazaIan:
Awesome, thanks! Tango is probably the only app I'll be using with the , and I mostly take pictures at random with the rear camera, so I'll probably be flashing CM7.

..just as soon as i figure out how to get radio off and how to use adb, these guides confuse me since they're cross platform..
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Jaskwith:
I never knew anything about anything before I bought my first android phone. This was my first android phone. So I have only been around this since november..but anyways.. I have done everything from my device... you dont ever have to set up ADB...I still haven't. You don't need to do the "ultimate root" its a lot more complicated and you don't really need that deep of a root. I would suggest the other thread grankin posted on how to root with visionary, its REALLY easy. Once you get it rooted, you are going to need to flash the new recovery, to flash cm7...and there is a really nice easy thread on here for that too... I would say you could get cm7 on your phone in less than an hour, tbh.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] graffixnyc:
Hey guys, I'm thinking of flashing to CM but I'm not sure if I want to go with 6 or start going with the 7 nightlys. How stable is 7 right now? What are the major bugs? Does the FFC work in either 6 or 7? I'm coming from a G2 and I know they have OCing stable at around 1.7-1.8 So in time will there be a higher OC Kernel that's higher than the 1.7-1.8 that's out there now? I mean if the G2 can be clocked to 1.8 and it's originally a 800mhz shouldnt we theoretically be able to get 2Ghz speeds from the 1Ghz cpu in the MY4G? It does seem like there is much more dev on the G2/Desire Z than the MT4G.. I hope that changes.. I always perfered sense roms over stock but I will flash CM just because you can OC CM at 1.8 and stock you can only OC at 1.7. CM7 looks sweet but I really dont want to have a "crippled" phone where features dont work yet. I know other 2.2 builds are having issues with the FFC so I'm sure that issue carries over to CM7 correct?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Jaskwith:
If you like sense roms but you are only flashing because of the .1 more mhz is supported in a kernel, that seems really silly to me... But regardless I will answer your question to the best of my knowledge.

I would go straight to cm7, because it seems better then cm6 and its stable. As far as the FFC goes, the same problems occur in both ROMS, dev's haven't correctly designed their applications to support the FFC yet...in time they will come to work but for now, they don't. Just read the FAQ on cm7 and you will see pretty much all the problems you can expect to MAYBE incur, and you will also realize that they have easy fixes, that are explained. I also think that running your phone at 1.8MHZ is going to "cripple" your phone more than what ROM you are using, considering prolly not going to be stable..or the battery isn't going to last long. But to each their own. GL.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] FM82:
I may sound really dumb. But i have a few questions.

I want to root my mt4g to gingerbread, is it easy to learn how to root? and is it easily unrooted if for some reason I wish to do a warranty exchange in future?

Another question is, has rooting for helped in extending battery life?

What would be the easiest root for a beginner?

Thank you for all your help.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jmwils3:
and no problem, let me know by PM or google talk (same username) if you have any more questions.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] FM82:
Thank you so much. I will definitely contact you if I need any more help! Meanwhile I'm gathering as much information as I can.

theunlockr.com has video tutorials explaining how to root and flash roms. Those seem really easy and very nicely explained.

I have one more question though!

When I flash a customized rom, for eg. the Iced Glacier, can I get more themes on it? Im assuming its a themeless rom?

Thank you so much for all your help and guidance. Means a lot! :)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jmwils3:
actually, there IS a themed version of Iced Glacier, and one of my fellow androidians, tiger_013, has created another theme for it, found in the themes and apps section.

Other themable roms include MIUI, CM7, Evil's Desire HD roms (can use themes for the desire HD fairly well, in my personal experience) and GorillaSense (has a section on his blog that contains themes and add-ons for his ROM).

dont forget to hit the "thanks" button if Ive helped :)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] FM82:
thats great! Thank you!
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jmwils3:
anytime :) thank you
[myTouch 4G Android Development] mikejet:
Is there any way to kill the lockscreen clock? I'm using a live wallpaper clock so when I lock it looks dumb with two clocks.

CM7 #23
[myTouch 4G Android Development] DaMyth:
Is there anyway to change the carrier text on the lockscreen and status bar???
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Jaskwith:
I would imagine if you changed the font pack in general, it would apply to that font as well?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] DisturbedAle:
As a noob to Android, is it a bad idea for me to use CM6 / CM7 or any other ROM when it's relatively buggy?

Should I just stick to the vanilla software for safety sake at the moment?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jmwils3:
well, ANY custom rom is going to have quirks and kinks to it, but CM6 and 7 are both very stable, and 7 is being constantly updated to fix whatevver bug to arise and to add new and better features. But, if you would prefer to stay on stock, thats your choice.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] DaMyth:
I dont want to change the font, although that would be nice, I want to make the carrier text say something to my liking besides TMobile
[myTouch 4G Android Development] graffixnyc:
Rom for MT4G

So I have a MT4G rooted. I have tried CM6 and Ice Glacier. Is there a rom that actually gets the FFC to work in video call programs like yahoo or qik? I really like having the ability to make video calls but it doesnt seem like any of the roms have gotten this to work. Does anyone know if there is a ROM that has this working yet?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jmwils3:
well, I havent heard of any issues with FFC usage in Iced, you might want to post on that thread about the issues its giving you. As for other roms, Im pretty sure the Sense ROMs from Gorilla and Evil D both have functioning FFCs. Its only the gingerbread and MIUI ROMs that seem to have those issues, in my experience.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] graffixnyc:
Thanks,

How is Gorilla's Sense rom? I've only tried Iced. Is one more stable than the other?

Thanks again
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jmwils3:
both are very stable :) I personally prefer Gorilla's Sense Rom to Iced because it is a port of the Desire HD's true Sense experience, not T-Mobile's half-baked MySense/Espresso.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] graffixnyc:
Thanks! I'll try Gorilla. I really do like CM 6 and all the tweaks it comes with and it's speed.. but I read in the CM forum that they have abandon CM 6 for MT4G and are not supporting it anymore. They told me to go to CM7 but I really dont feel like loading a rom every night or even once a week.. I tried loading build 25 and the OC kernel that Grankin01 released for GB but it seemed to not work. After I applied the kernel to CM 7 the phone never booted.. just stayed at the boot screen.

edit: Just got done loading GS. I already like it better than Iced just on look alone.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jmwils3:
glad to hear it, bro :) Im running its twin, made by Evil D, after unrooting from cm7 and re-rooting :) and yeah, I had tried grankin's kernel on cm7, and had the same problem. the only custom kernel I have gotten to work on there so far is dumfuq's smartass kernel for cm7 (which is blazing fast, btw).
[myTouch 4G Android Development] ALIROMEO17:
can anyone tell me what is the stock mytouch 4g baseband version whether its 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M or 12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M? thanks
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Mrdaviso:
I'm showing a U on mine, it had 2.2.1 out of the box and I'm thinking the u could possibly be that Update vs. the 2.2 phones, just a guess.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] ALIROMEO17:
Alright cool thanks alot that's the same radio I got just making sure my radio didn't change when I did the unroot method using footballs post
[myTouch 4G Android Development] 92drls:
How'd you do it? I was thinking the same thing since I never use it?? Can I change the directory of where that goes without changing my launcher?

Or even better, when I had the mytouch 3g, I had Cyanogen 1.5 rom with the advanced launcher. I LOVED that the only thing at the bottom of the screen was the little shadow and a directional triangle to pull up all the apps. Is there something the same/similar to that for the Glacier?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] OptLynx:
ALIROMEO17 and Mrdaviso

I came across it investigating kernel troubleshoot.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Nicgraner:
Honeycomb?

Hey guys I know that honeycomb was designed to be a tablet rom and everything but I was curious whenever the full sdk comes out if there will be any attempts to have it on the MT4G?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] mikejet:
I think Honeycomb would need a dual core processor to run at an acceptable speed.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] GazaIan:
Anyone here having problems with GMail not automatically syncing and recieve messages as soon as they arrive? I used to get notifications instantly on the stock ROM, now I don't get crap unless I open it myself.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] mikejet:
I just added my gmail accounts to the default email client as I HATE the gmail client.

Sometimes I'll get a notification that I have a new email with the Gmail app and then I have to refresh a few times for it to retrieve it.

With the default app I get them right away.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] DaMyth:
So there's no way to change the carrier text at all on our phones... I've been digging for days, and most of what I've found only works on CDMA phones...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] mikejet:
Is there any reason to wipe the battery stats when flashing a rom?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] TrueBlue_Drew:
I do believe it wipes them when you do a data wipe/factory reset. I would not suggest wiping them any other time unless you are specifically trying to condition your battery and following a guide or something like that. I would also make sure to Flash new roms that you have done a full wipe using a full battery. Overflashes shouldn't make a difference.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] option94:
Thats about as far as I got. I tried to hex edit, i dried to decompile the apk and mod the xml directly. Neither did a thing.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] s00paSold3r:
Has anybody tried the GorillaSense-DHD-MT4G-v2.3?? I am running CM7 Nightly 31 but i'm not having any luck with the Corporate wifi MSCHAP setups..
[myTouch 4G Android Development] inkling:
Most efficient and accurate way to restore settings after full wipe?

Hi there,

I've been flashing some of the CM7 nightlies and occasionally doing a fastboot wipe to keep things "fresh".

I'm wondering what people think is the most efficient, easy, and accurate way to restore settings after a full (system) wipe? Some people seem to rely on Titanium, others don't.

I currently do this:

back up apps/data with Titanium

back up SMS and call logs with other apps

fastboot wipe

flash ROM, gapps, Genius app

install Titanium, restore apps/data

fix permissions

restore call logs, SMS

use Titanium to restore CM settings, wifi access points, bluetooth

redo wallpaper and widgets in LauncherPro

It all takes about an hour or so, and there usually needs to be at least one reboot to restore wifi access points and CM settings. Wondering if there's a simpler/more automated way to completely wipe, flash, and restore settings.

thanks
[myTouch 4G Android Development] DisturbedAle:
I'm having problems with apply widgets... How do I do it? Please advise, I'm very new to the MT4G and CM7.

I do however, believe that the app is loaded on the phone, rather than the SD card.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] kenrippy:
i finally got perm root s-off.

my first 2 questions;

1) is there a guide on what to do first? (backup or something like that)

2) what is the best way to remove pre-installed apps? can i just delete the .apk files or is there a better method?

thanks!
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jggimi:
1) There are two types of backup: a) application and data, and b) full system image. The former is done through applications like Titanium Backup. The latter is done from outside of the Android system, via booting Clockworkmod Recovery, and is called a "Nandroid Backup". Both are advised, as one is helpful with restoring user applications (and judiciously, some system applications), the other for returning the phone to a point-in-time state.

Be careful with Clockworkmod Recovery -- 2.x versions are for Android 2.2 (Froyo) systems only, and 3.x versions prior to 3.0.0.6 are for Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) only. There are filesystem differences between Froyo and Gingerbread that cause this compatibility issue.

2) The best way to remove pre-installed apps is not to remove them at all, but to disable them. There are interdependencies in the Sense framework on the Stock ROM.

This is done either through Titanium Backup's "Freeze" command, or through a "pm disable" command issued from a terminal emulator or adb shell.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] kenrippy:
Thank you for the reply, I'll give those a try.

Edit: is there a tutorial for the clockwork backup method? Is it done from the hboot screen once rom manager is installed? And is the pro version recommended?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] grimlockd:
Clockwork recovery 2.5.1.4 download

Does anyone have a link to download Clockwork Recovery 2.5.1.4? I'm trying to flash a froyo ROM but cannot because I have 3.0.0.7 installed. I've looked all over this forum for a link, but haven't found it.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Mrdaviso:
Look for 3.0.0.6 it does froyo and gb. No more switching back and forth. ;)

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] Mrdaviso:
xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=944681
[myTouch 4G Android Development] grimlockd:
Thanks for your help. Works like a charm now! I thought I did something wrong since I just rooted my phone.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] markjnj:
I've been on cm7 nightlies using rom mgr 3.0x and was trying to restore the stock rom i backed up using rom mgr. but when it boots up it seem to stall at tmobile mytouch 4g boot screen. Is there something I'm missing here. or is there a chance that the backup i did is bad. in that case I can restore and re-root using one of the stock roms posted. Just wondering if there was an easier way than that. Thanks!
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jggimi:
Rom Manager is an Android application. ClockworkMod Recovery is a standalone program you (or Rom Manager) boot up, and it does the Nandroid Backup and flashing of ROMs, etc., while Android is not operational.

ClockworkMod 2.x is for 2.2-based ROMs, including Stock. ClockworkMod 3.x is for 2.3-based ROMs such as CM7. The underlying filesystems on the internal flash drive are NOT the same for these two versions of Android.

Our moderator, option94, has created a custom version of ClockworkMod Recovery called "3.0.0.6" that supports both filesystem structures, and can back up or restore either.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Mrdaviso:
People should read, the answer was on this freaking page..... Sorry but, seriously? The post before his was about the fix to his problem. :/

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] BeEazy10:
Help with rooting

I can from a window phone and unlocking the phone was like 1 2 3 then flash away... Now that i switch to an andriod phone everything is like blah and i been trying to follow this guide http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=834225 and i dont unerstand the first 3 steps.

Btw when i boot my phone GLacier PVT EnG s-off but when i open rom manger su is not there.. it keep telling me o root my phone
[myTouch 4G Android Development] markjnj:
thanks jggimi. I was trying to read through the pages and did a search on the thread, and was gettin tired so I just posted. no i feel silly seeing that the post was right before mine. oh well. thanks again...
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Mrdaviso:
Try the alternative method mid way through first post, it has the best success rate. Unfortunately we all had to do a lot of reading to get ours rooted. If you read through that thread you should be good to go and learn a lot.

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] Mrdaviso:
Sorry for my rant but there are a ton of folks that wanna help. When you read these threads you can see some people answer a bunch of questions and then nothing for awhile. Then someone else picks it up for awhile..... It is because no one reads, they are all the same questions, and we get worn down by them. Lets continue to help EACH OTHER out is all I'm saying. On that note, thanks for listening and thanks to all that HELP. ;)

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] jggimi:
I thought the answer may not have been sufficiently well articulated. So I added clarification.

No problem.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Mrdaviso:
LoL thanks it was very CLEAR

The next post even had a link.

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] doorpz:
Hey I was just curious if anybody knew what ports are being done to the Glacier desides the Desire ports. My buddy just got a Glacier and I was showing him the rom I'm running on my Evo and he really liked it but I wasn't sure how easy the port is from one htc device to another.

I'm running MikFroYo - ReEngineered Sense and it's by far the best rom I've used on any phone. I know it's been ported over to the Incredible already so just wanted to see if anybody was possibly working on it or would be interested in doing it.

Here's the link to the original rom:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=883026

And the Incredible port:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=893233
[myTouch 4G Android Development] jppullens:
Root S-off mytouch45

I have 2.2.1 and I been trying to use the method on here I done everything it says and it even says to turn off phone boot into hboot and see is S-off it never is I tried this several times and nothing. Dose anyone have any suggestions thank you.
[myTouch 4G Android Development] BeEazy10:
Adb not recognized

everytime i open up CMD and type Adb push gfree /data/local something pop up saying adb is not recognized as an internal or exteral commad, operable program or batch file... how can i ifix this problem?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Mrdaviso:
Do you have the sdk installed? Go to sdk folder on pc open it right click the platform tools folder and select open command prompt here, on a windows pc. Then do your adb commands.

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] jggimi:
And I thought that markjnj had actually READ your post, but not understood it. Silly me. :)
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Mrdaviso:
lol

True

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[myTouch 4G Android Development] BeEazy10:
should there be stuff in platform folder? so i have to click sdkmanager?
[myTouch 4G Android Development] Mrdaviso:
Don't open it (platform tools)right click it and select open command prompt here. If you just installed it then you may need to run sdkmanager.exe and update it. Then adb.exe will be placed in platform tools along with other files too.

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