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[XPERIA X10 General] I7redd:
Worse, they answer just the odd inconsequential post where they can fudge it. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Pasting:
I just realised.... android may well go through 2 complete version upgrades by the time SE manage to sort out their apps to work with their hardware!! I know google probably have a few more people but really... how can they SE live with that?
[XPERIA X10 General] nosidefcp:
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Agent Ray: Thank you for choosing Sony Ericsson Chat Support. My name is Ray your Xperia™ Support Representative. How can I help you today?

Edison Pinheiro: hello Ray, i'm edison

Edison Pinheiro: can you tell me if i will have the opportunity to use android 2.1 in my x10 this century?thanks

Agent Ray: The Android 2.1 update is scheduled to be release worldwide now in Q4, 2010. Keep in mind that we do not have a specific date for this release, but it would be very soon.

Edison Pinheiro: it will not be delayed again?

Agent Ray: We do not have any delay information on this update.

Edison Pinheiro: ok Ray, lets hope not. im trying to resist in keeping my x10 and not giving it to my gilfriend to buy the galaxy s

Edison Pinheiro: thanks for your help

Agent Ray: Is there anything else I can help you with?

Edison Pinheiro: thats all

Edison Pinheiro: thanks once again

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[XPERIA X10 General] mbrad_26:
Hey don't be so rude....chill out...just provide us a link to the site, that' s all we want

Cheers
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
Jeff,

Answers re: call volume please post prandial asap.

Thanks :(
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
Still chatting... Ehm "couple of more weeks?"
[XPERIA X10 General] I7redd:
We were polite for days, but Jeff is coming here and mocking us by talking about "Vodafone approval".

<--- *Checks LOGO* ... nope, that's not a Vodafone. :cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] pacoguevara:
I think he meant the person you were quoting. The name is a clear sign of that fact.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bennachie:
Bump

Originally Posted by Bennachie

Jeff are you there?

You have been asked very politely twice about in-call volume under 2.1 and have so far declined to comment.

This is a third, pleasant request, for information on this matter as a smart phone which does not function as a phone unless you have a portable quiet space is not a 'smart phone'; rather a very expensive door stop.

Can you comment on bluetooth compatibility and voice dial too as I should appreciate having a flagship phone that can do what my 2003 SE phones did. i.e. voice dial over bluetooth and phonebook transfer to my Sony Ericsson handsfree kit.

A reply would be gratefully received.
[XPERIA X10 General] iggi111:
if i had that issue i would bring it back where i baught it.
[XPERIA X10 General] kirandanduprolu:
Lol, my fortune in Linux Mint says 'You cant cheat the phone company'
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Phew! Just got home and there are 10 additional pages. I'm glad that Jeff's answering questions and you're having healthy arguments.

Edit:

@jeff: Regarding the low in-call volume. Is this a hardware issue that has no solution? Because my old w810i had this too. I tried everything I can to fix it but still no use (tried installing some superultrajedisounddrivers, the volume increased but it sounds distorted). I'm glad I don't have this problem on the u20i(x10 mini pro) I can hear the caller even when I'm in a moshpit!
[XPERIA X10 General] I7redd:
Not to mention additional months of pre-paid data plans waiting to download upgrades that never arrive. That's some serious dough out of our pockets!!
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
Did someone even see what i've posted on 378?
[XPERIA X10 General] Lakata:
i saw couple more weeks ... so instead end of October mid of November
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
Yup it's looking more & more that it could certainly happen. I don't care anymore about this update or when it comes, If SE is indeed announcing a 2 week delay in starting the roll-out they will be a bigger joke then they already are IMO.
[XPERIA X10 General] dachao:
Originally Posted by pngface View Post

Not if he's based in US/Canada ... its barely past 1 30 pm here

Sorry folks, had some lunch. I'll edit this post with some responses in a bit.

Originally Posted by Reeonimus View Post

So us X10a users are gonna be out of luck until our carrier releases the branded firmware then?

Because our phones connection to the cell network won't work right? Wrong bands and such.

It's up to Rogers to verify everything works fine on their end, and that they feel their users will be happy with the results.

Originally Posted by debs626 View Post

I think we understand that already, but you could at least announce when you are going to release the updates for unbranded phones ? because that is up to you ! and then tell customers to contact their providers or wait for news ?

The "sometime soon" "soon" and "very soon" is wearing very thin on us.

It is up to us, but are not releasing information.

Originally Posted by Bennachie View Post

Jeff are you there?

You have been asked very politely twice about in-call volume under 2.1 and have so far declined to comment.

This is a third, pleasant request, for information on this matter as a smart phone which does not function as a phone unless you have a portable quiet space is not a 'smart phone'; rather a very expensive door stop.

Can you comment on bluetooth compatibility and voice dial too as I should appreciate having a flagship phone that can do what my 2003 SE phones did. i.e. voice dial over bluetooth and phonebook transfer to my Sony Ericsson handsfree kit.

A reply would be gratefully received.

According to Rikard on the Product Blog, he feels the sound quality hasn't changed.
[XPERIA X10 General] tsip4:
me, but I dont want to believe it before official announcement because its gonna be like hell around here
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Hmm..

Lets see...

First of all : The X10 has the 1.6 true,its not very compatible,true ...but it still works dudes -_- i mean c'mon i also want HD recrd,live walls and many more stuff but dudes dont exagerate it all like that ...

The Guys on support cant know anything ,its all DEV's/Google's choices... so no need to invade them with utterdumb excuses,its ok you ask but dont exagerate like the guy with "My bf beats me if update doesnt come out"...duh thats totally inhuman.

My Advice : If you wait,and watch a few vids on youtube and relax,do smth else,the update will come sooner.

@Jeff Mate,im in between everyone...true that they are pissed and they got a reason,but its also true that its kinda going too far.

I myself admit i also passed the line a few times ><

So for everyone : Im not criticizing,im just saying : Wait ,relax , SE messed up but hey,it can happen...Neigher Jeff , nor Rikard nor anyone from Support is responsible for this,its smth from deep inside SE and we could never contact them.

And im sure that SE,after all these happenings,wont repeat the same mistake again.

Also Remember,even if the SW is outdated,the Hardware is still Top-Notch,between the best HW handsets out there, so wait ,as you saw 2.1 will make this phone better than Desire or Nexus ,in like everything : Performance + Camera + Shape + many more.

So its worth waiting,now people calm down and enjoy life ^^
[XPERIA X10 General] PGRX10:
It's tomorrow for unbranded
[XPERIA X10 General] npk21:
just now saw last two three pages of this thread...has the update delayed again till november for uk?:(
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
I think you misunderstood them

They said they needed 2 weeks... not that they need 2 weeks more
[XPERIA X10 General] funzler:
This day i speak with support of ericcson and he said at 28.10.2010 or 29.10.2010 Start Update now Start Upload to the Server !!!

;) :) ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] I7redd:
^LOl.

TRY THIS IS SPARTA!! XDA!!!

:D
[XPERIA X10 General] Bluewall:
How could you be sur of that ?
[XPERIA X10 General] Zer0_:
To me they said the the Android 2.1 update will begin to rollout end of October. People with unbranded phones should get the update before anyone else. People with branded phones, will get the update mid-november, due to the fact that they have to install their own softwares and programs on it.

When they said end of October.. They were not bullshitting haha
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
reaL!!!! the link works :(
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Looks like it isn't today then
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
how can you say fake, iv just added a link to my facebook from askin SE UK a question and copied and pasted the text.

Would i want to lie about perhaps not getting it today, im as hopeful as everyone else.

Why are people so quick to shout lies, proof needed, fake ffs.

Im just sharing my comunications with SE!!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] remco.k:
I Think the people that say the got the update need to put the proof on the forum so we can see it four ourself if not then it`s not treu... and the people how are putting on proof i believe them
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Im 100% behind you on that. People how claim to have the update show your selves and get dumping the files
[XPERIA X10 General] HQXU:
Did anyone claim they have the update already?
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Yes there was someone from spain who i beleive said his brother / friend had it already.

Thats within this thread, a few pages back
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
Did you guys see my post on the previous page?
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
Yep They saw it, but hope dies last :D
[XPERIA X10 General] se_dude:
Get connected to SEUS, because the @SonyEricsson XPERIA X10 2.1 update is out! I just don't know for which region it is available for.

by lollylost in twitter
[XPERIA X10 General] remco.k:
se dude please put in youre proof
[XPERIA X10 General] se_dude:
http://twitter.com/#!/Lollylost100
[XPERIA X10 General] HQXU:
Yeah I saw it.. Could you try and order the hd from the stores link I posted.. Put a postcode in france and see when will it arrive.

Its hard to do it on a phone
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Ok so looks like its def not today then if they saying that over the phone and facebook.

In the uk its currently 16.26 and office hours over here is generally 9.00-17.30 so unless something radical happens within the hour we just have to continue waiting, we've gone this long a few more days wont hurt.

Heres to a bug free 2.1 when its released :)
[XPERIA X10 General] KoRoZIV:
I am in Spain, no update; x10 generic, not branded; relax... :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
+1 on that man.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
"fanklub.se moderator, SE lover, iPhone user."

Sounds like a highly reliable source.....
[XPERIA X10 General] vatotomsa:
Looks like, you don't know him.

One of the most respected user on se-nse ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] x10Mike:
UK 2.1 Update Problem

I know it's a thin line on this board about what you can and can't post. Just off the phone to o2 about swapping my x10 for another make & handset. I explained about the update let down by SE blah blah - which he replied that some users had received the 2.1 update which had 'screwed' up their phone.

Big issues with Android/SE at the moment - mainly mentioning the skip of 2.1 and moving straight to the 2.2.

May be known news but hopefully it was something he wasn't meant to release which in turn gives disgruntled x10 users ammo to swap handsets with their respective providers.
[XPERIA X10 General] rockey85:
OMG so excited right now, please let this really be the update

I really hope that guy off Twitter is telling the truth. I'll be straight on SEUS when I get home lol
[XPERIA X10 General] j3yps:
Guys question my phone is using a Nordic Generic firmware how can i flash it to Global Generic?
[XPERIA X10 General] vplata:
Yeah, I agree. I would love to see that update, mostly 'cos of the new compatible apps and battery life improvement. However, I think the x10 (mini, which is the one I own) is a good phone by now. Specially after installing some apps like Astro and Helix.

Delays are not a strong enough reason for being rude with these support and social media SE guys.
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
@JEFF: Sorry we're harsh on you guys BTW, but I think it proves effective for getting your attention :D. And I think it's a new, fun, experience for the chat support team! Like the fun we're having here waiting for the wretched update that never arrives.
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
thats probs because you said Q3 and the past month has been Q4, and he did say "needed" as in past tense.
[XPERIA X10 General] vengeance1990:
reading the last page or two has confused me, has the update been delayed yet again? im on uk generic 026
[XPERIA X10 General] LORELAI89:
Guys.......i ve been reading for the past 4 days this thread.....and i understand that you are all desperate for the update...i was too......but then again....i finally understood what everyone have been saying for the past 2 years........u cant trust sony ericsson anymore.........i mean they are all so useless that cant even commit at one date.......SO USELESS!!!!......

So dont get crazy for the update,cause at the end you will get disappointed....
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
LOL pare panu naging Nordic yan? I'm on Generic World
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
In all my exitement i didn't see that, still i'm talking to this guy.

Quick quote:
[XPERIA X10 General] npk21:
.................................

yeah...even i am asking the same ... has the update delayed to november for uk users? somebody reply please!!
[XPERIA X10 General] kel_rulezzz:
Still nothing yet :/
[XPERIA X10 General] PGRX10:
Is that you?
[XPERIA X10 General] albert.r:
shukla,

I can't resist that moving gal in your sig...she's such an eye candy... Do you have any pix of her? Sorry for off-topic/.

-albertr
[XPERIA X10 General] 17mayis:
whats branded mean sorry for the question but i have no idea . my phone works on every network does it mean i have branded phone or its related with something else..
[XPERIA X10 General] j3yps:
I debranded this phone nung una pa eh, so ginamit ko dati yugn Nordic na FW, hindi ko alam noon na may Global Generic pala eh, anyway pwede ko paba gawing Global Generic to?
[XPERIA X10 General] PGRX10:
Mmmmmmmmmmm!! Too.
[XPERIA X10 General] fonzthegreat:
lol ako rin nordic generic, mas maganda ba global generic? baka di na gumagana yung seus quick switch debrand
[XPERIA X10 General] npk21:
can anybody give me a link to chat with those agents like you all are chatting.

Thanks waiting for your reply.:)
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
#pfrop!

http://semc.chat.stream.com/eSupport/SonyEricsson_InstSvcChat_En.asp
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
I'm, not sure ATM because SEUS had been updated 10000times already and debranding is not the same na yta..Try mu maghanap sa ibang thread I think I saw someone posting a tutorial there
[XPERIA X10 General] j3yps:
Oo mukhang hindi na gagana yun brad eh, iba na ata yung method ngayon eh...badtrip lang kasi baka mamaya unbranded nga tayo pero baka dahil NORDIC tayo nasa huling part pa tayo makakuha ng update...
[XPERIA X10 General] mbrad_26:
It is unbranded
[XPERIA X10 General] totalperception:
Again... Sony Ericsson will not be releasing the firmware based upon what firmware you currently have on your phone. It will based upon the kit of your phone. They'll be able to read manufacturing data on your phone to determine which kit you're eligable for. So if you have a T-Mobile UK, AT&T, Rogers, etc... Xperia X10 running LAM or UK unbranded don't expect SEUS to update you just because that kit is released. You're going to get what you paid for unless the devs here can edit the .sin file to match every kit model and over ride the manufacture date check. Welcome to the future of SE Android folks.
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
Umm no ,beeing able to use with all Networks doesnt mean its Unbranded,its just Sim-Unlocked but the Phone can be still Branded -_-
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Haha mga pare English, or the others will bash us!
[XPERIA X10 General] fonzthegreat:
putek, seryoso? haha kala ko panaman nordic mauuna
[XPERIA X10 General] 17mayis:
then its good i guese having unbranded phone? :D thanx
[XPERIA X10 General] sidneylopsides:
I have both the X10 and mini pro. The volume issue seems to be part software and hardware.

The minipro speakers have more bass, feeling more powerful. Plus it's louder.

However, the mini pro is also much louder over bluertooth, suggesting the system max volume is higher on the mini pro than X10.

It may be that the speakers would distort if it was higher?
[XPERIA X10 General] remco.k:
if i rember correctly there was an action with the release of the iphone from samsung providing the disapointed custermors with a samsung galaxy s with the note I`m sorry that you have to so long how about me giving you this phone instead hope you`ll like it better then the iphone (evil grin) maybe the should start that action again......
[XPERIA X10 General] PGRX10:
Pluck my nipple hairs! Pluck my nipple hairs!

Sorry.

Just had to get that off my chest.
[XPERIA X10 General] debs626:
To be sure if your unbranded you should have NO carrier icons ie vodaphone 360 ect ect

but still this may not enable you to get the unbranded handset 2.1 update first :(
[XPERIA X10 General] j3yps:
Mmmmkaaaay :)

Yeah i thought so too, the reason why i "debranded" my phone and chose the Nordic FW is because, BEFORE the Generic Nordic seems to get the updates first...Fotah!
[XPERIA X10 General] xtrmshadow:
@17mayis , mate you gotta check it,lock your screen , then press the unlock button but dont drag to actually unlock it,just make the screen enlighten,then press Back-Menu-back-back-menu-back-menu-menu-back.

Then go to Service info

and then Model info,it should say it under Brand and country.
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
Also has a load of crap.

Cannot seem to find any info on the: " seee@Support.SonyEricsson.com " does someone know that e-mail address?
[XPERIA X10 General] I7redd:
Branded typically means you bought a phone from a major carrier (Rodgers/Vodafone/etc) and signed up for long term contract in exchange for a cheaper deal on the phone. (It's not really that you have a brand "Vodafone" written on the phone itself) Branded phones often get customized by the carrier with "bloatware" or additional apps which are included to earn extra revenue for the carrier, and are therefore difficult to remove, and can be particularly annoying.
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
I think UK will be the first together with Global since UDT is in UK... right JEFF?
[XPERIA X10 General] fonzthegreat:
bwahahah me also! I have a feeling though nordic will be first
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
X10a is also sold in south america ;) with generic firmware.

Actually my X10a is running R2BA026 LAM while Rogers is still on the lazy, laggy, battery hungry R2BA020 because SE doesn't give a crap on problems of their users.

You guys should force carriers to update the firmware of their clients.

SE should know how many bugs are in the firmwares before R2BA023 and is a pain in the ass for people running older FWs than that to use their X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] flexkres:
where do i find theese chats
[XPERIA X10 General] totalperception:
Branded also includes manufacturing data in the case of Sony Ericsson. So having UK, LAM, HK, Nordic unbranded firmware will not get you the update when it's released on your carrier branded (SW/FW/HW) device. You'll just have to wait your turn or hope the XDA Devs can break 256 and 512 bit encryption and overcome manufacturing date checks.
[XPERIA X10 General] tready:
U will only get the generic fw if your unbranded and sim unlocked thats what a generic phone is so if you can say only use vodafone sim in your phone and.you flash.it with a generic fw your still sim locked to vodafone so your still not generic do u get it now
[XPERIA X10 General] 17mayis:
i have no log on my phone and its pay as u go i bought it on street and it had vodafone in but i put my o2 sim card and working fine.
[XPERIA X10 General] TheGizmoDude:
You create them: http://semc.chat.stream.com/eSupport/SonyEricsson_InstSvcChat_En.asp
[XPERIA X10 General] j3yps:
Well hopefully we get the update at the same time with uk...haaaaaaay
[XPERIA X10 General] Lauri455:
Ok I'm lost: is the update delayed or not?
[XPERIA X10 General] totalperception:
In the famous words of Gandalf:

A wizard is never late nor early he arrives precisely when he means to.
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
Simple: NO!
[XPERIA X10 General] Lauri455:
Wow, that was fast. Thank you for the info.
[XPERIA X10 General] javagreen:
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...

You have been connected to Agent Elisa.

Agent Elisa: Hi, thanks for choosing Sony Ericsson Chat Support. My name is Elisa. How may I help you?

Amit: Hello Elisa

Amit: Alright -- Let me get straight to the point. I'm just another Xperia X10i user anxiously waiting for the 2.1 rollout

Amit: Would you have any idea about the actual release date for the same? At this point, that is all I care about. I've been reading few blogs and forums and they all seem to offer contradicting information

Agent Elisa: Sony Ericsson has promised that the upgrade will be available sometime before the end of this year. In the 4th quater but we do not know when it will be for India. That really will depend on your carrier and region.

Amit: I'm on Airtel, but the phone itself is unlocked, i.e. Unbranded

Agent Elisa: Even is it is unlocked the information will be the same. You will have to wait until its released in North America and then we'll see if is available in the your region at the same time.

Amit: I just checked the Service Menu and it says : Brand - Customized.... what does that mean?

Agent Elisa: If is says its customized it means that is locked to a provider.

Amit: It cannot be... because I was on Vodafone before I just slipped in another Airtel SIM -- and it worked just fine. I also don't have any branding whatsoever -- on the phone or the software

Amit: Anyway, I guess I'll have to continue playing the waiting game. Thanks for your time Elisa

Agent Elisa: Have I answered all of your questions today?

Amit: I suppose so. Thanks again

I don't think India will be getting the big release anytime sooner either. I'm beginning to believe [2.1 for us in mid to end November, that is].
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
LOL sorry for the off topic. But I browsed the forum homepage and saw the iPhone forum on top of other devices. I think it should be at the bottommost part of the forum (and it should have smaller fonts LOL). Sorry again, I just had to let that out.
[XPERIA X10 General] debs626:
We have not seen any official statement to say so yet :confused: