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[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
I'm waiting on receiving the TV-Out to test a high quality mic (sennheiser e845) to see if I can get something descent then I'll most likely order something like the sony condenser mic and make myself an adapter with a 4 conductor plug.

I'll update with a video once done!

Note: Live show is also a pretty specific environement. it's pretty hard even with descent microphone to get a good sound (I have a band and we like to record jams for references and stuff) so recording anything with a massive sound is a pain, the Sony thing seems to get good quality (see here, my friend has a HD video recorder with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws79ML7KeqY )

I just hope we can get something like this!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] akenis:
That sounds pretty damn good to me! (audio quality)

I've got Samsung Epic, so I think it's similar to your phone. Don't understand what you mean by "waiting for tv out?"

What kind of adapter do we need? This is kind of confusing. I read one article that said Android didn't even support external mic for recording video. Maybe that was old news?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
Basicaly, what the TV-Out does is it takes the 3 conductor (plus the ground) and seperates them into 3 seperate signal: Left-right sound out and Video-Out

If you take the same plug, theorically, and leave the TV-Out fonction disable, the "Video-Out" should stay as the "mic-in" (wich is currently)

Then, all you need is to take the conductor and send the signal from an external microphone (Signal+Ground) to the right conductor.

I don't know about the external mic vs video tough... I'm gonna test this out this weekend (with the handsfree provided with the device)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
UPDATE

I found a nice adapter in a kit made for Philips' portable DVD adapter, just like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-DVDP01-Video-audio-cable/dp/B000HSCLBG

(bought it for 2.99$can at a local electronic superstore)

On my first test, I can conclude that the Video Out from this adapter can be used to plug an external microphone! Yay!

I'm gonna upload some video tomorow and we can hear the difference! So, depending on the microphone used, you'll get pretty descent sound at concert and such!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] SexyIceCream:
btw t1 u said in the other post the galaxy has the same pin layout as the iphone, so theoretically the iphone chill pills would work on the galaxy as well right?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
Looks like the ground/mic are inverted as per Pinouts.ru

iPhone:

http://pinouts.ru/HeadsetsHeadphones/iphone_headphone_pinout.shtml

SGS:

http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/samsung_galaxy_headset_pinout.shtml

but then, from the same site, you can get the "standard" 4 conductor layout

http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/blackberry_9700_headset_pinout.shtml

And the SGS is in the list, as well as iPhone 4

So, personnally, I would try with cheap imitation before speding the dough on cchill pill!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
Results are in!

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0yzzC_PiWE = Internal mic

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-uC4Gn9AgY = Mic with handsfree

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id0_sG47aok = External mic (laptop) with adapter

This is most likely higher sound than most show, radio at vol. 10 is considered "loud", it's 5 or less for "normal use"

The microphone in the last test is a standard microphone for laptop, I will put a test with an High Quality microphone also just for references.

Conclusion:

"Video Out" for TV-Our is useable as Mic in when the TV-Out feature is disabled.

An adapter with a "better" microphone will give a massive difference when recording "high" volume environments

Better microphone Should give better result (yet to be tester)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] mdkboom:
Nice findings..

Could this mini microphone work with SGS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBBLBX4s_yg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeoM3fpFKJ8
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rafalense:
Cool!!

So, as your tests show, external microphone improve quality quite a lot

I'm gonna buy one and test my self

BTW, " "Video Out" for TV-Our is useable as Mic Out...", correction, MIC in ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
I'm not sure about if it would work or not, pinout should be "standard" in the iPhone and the SGS, they should work. But then, has they follow the standard??

You can see that pinouts from pinouts.ru are note "consistent" as posted in post #9

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8922890&postcount=9

But then, the best would be to try it (they can be bought pretty cheap from eBay)

PS: it would improve for voice recording quality but probably would not in recording or live prestation or high volume.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rafalense:
I just bought this one http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20714

Will test and post results as soon as I receive it
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] smudgy456:
do these results therefore then suggest that the general issue is the quality of the mic and not software?

great results with the adapter and external mic but it seems like a rather complicated process to get the adapter part
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
It looks like it's an hardware limitation. Most cell phones' mic don't have decent microphone, don't know exactly why, but still every time I tryed to record using original mic I got massive distortion!

As for the "complicated" part, well, it's like pluging in part A to Part B, can't be simpler...
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] MikeyMike01:
Not to the point that recording voice in a quiet room sounds like you recording someone yelling violently into the microphone hole.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] SexyIceCream:
nice findings t1!! btw, i kinda find it complicated too =p so ur saying just getting a normal external mic with a 3.5mm jack won't work? we also need an adaptor?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
No, Standard mic won't work since the pinout (Tip, Ring1 ) are used for Sound Out (Audio L/R). Ring 2 and 3 are used for the Mic in. (and the ground). If they are "shorted" together, the mic is disabled and only serves as ground.

And, MikeyMike01, everytime I recoreded a video with either a camera (standard camera) or with a phone, audio was crap. Why do you think they make and sells things like "Chill Pills" and the likes?

Simple: Because even on the iPhone, when you record sound with standard mic, it sucks... Thoses external mic are intended to record exactly that: recording voices in classroom or having better quality with Skype.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] smudgy456:
this is the bit i find complicated.

Also i accept what you say about phone mics etc but ive had two nokias previously and the sound quality from them is noticably different. its clear at least so there must be something they do different to make that function stand out whether it be different software or better mics.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
It is, indeed, more complicated than the adapter I found. But the basic idea is the same:

The connector is called "TRRS", wich means tip, ring, ring, sleeve. You have the tip (point), then two "ring" and the "sleeve" wich is the base of the plug.

What needs to be done is to connect the second ring (Mic+ signal) and the base (Ground) to an external microphone.

The rest is just the way to get to the end needed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] SexyIceCream:
so let me double check, what i will need is a VIDEO adapter with a 3.5mm jack. then i will plug the 3.5mm microphone into the video adapter. right?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
Pretty much yes.

However, most video adapters (except the Philips posted) will only have RCA connection. You would need an RCA to 3.5mm adapter. But if every plug are 3.55, that's pretty much straight forward
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] SexyIceCream:
grrr darn its gonna take me awhile to find something like that then =/
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] reawatra:
any one search dealextreme? although im not exactly sure what im searching for.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dagrim1:
I bought this one:

http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190455553344&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

But sound is still utter crap with it... Hopefully voodoo/cm can work something out with it...

*Edit*

Sorry, was irrelevant... This was just the handsfree substitution but the recording works, only still distorted. Have to see if I can get one of those video thingies then. Sucks to have to use such a contrsuction though, damn samsung and their really shamefull audio recording.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
Well, this is not samsung's fault, it's the standard for (most) TRRS plug with microphone. So you don't "lose" the microphone while using hearphone (or sound out) wich uses the same connections than on this device
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dagrim1:
I don't blame samsung that this external mic doesn't work... I DO blame them for the crappy sound recording quality though.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
Read the whole thread, external microphone DOES work, it was tested and proven by me, youtube link to coroborate.

Every smartphone with standard 3.5mm jack are using the TRRS (4 conductor) because they need 4 signals: Audio Out Left, audio out Right, mic in and ground.

Also, most of the smartphone are using "crappy" microphone that is mainly used for voice. Not just samsung. Almost every smartphone won't give good result when using the built in microphone in high volume environements because the built in mic is for voice mostly.

Then, because of the TRRS, you have to use an adapter to get the mic out on a seperate "channel". Since the tip and the first ring are ALWAYS used for the left-right on the jack.

Anyway, you can look at my findings for good results.

EDIT: First post was edited with findings and links
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Halkus:
Sorry to take this slightly off topic... From those pinouts does that mean a standard iPhone button adaptor thing ( for example amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001C0LBEG ) would not work because the pinouts are different?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] dagrim1:
My apologies, guess I misunderstood (combination of language and technical barrier ;) ). Hard to find the part I need though, can only find international sites with the philips set and have a tough time looking for the specific part...

But thanks for the research! Btw, I saw a 4th video of you with the high quality mic but it didn't contain any sound. Did that mean the mic wasn't working or was the video defect :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
Switch was off on the mic on the forth one! :S

I guess I should remove this one! :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Arise:
Indeed, the pinout for mic on iphone is different that the pinout on Galaxy S.

We need to buy this one, if we don't want to mess with an extra adapter:

http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-droid-mic.htm
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] flyguy729:
If i use this mic > http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-ECM-DS70P-...ltDomain_0&hash=item33620f823c#ht_1411wt_1139

Will i still need an adapter? Where else can i get the adapter besides the Philips one? I search ebay but i cant find any. :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Arise:
Looks too cheap to be a real Sony. :D

Also, it is stereo and you only need mono.

And lastly it doesn't seems to be a TTRS, it only has 3 contacts, at least that I can see in the pictures. So you need an adapter, you can't use it directly in your phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
I've got a similar "fake" sony like this and, the one I got is even worst than the built in microphone.... (I advised the reseller and he's sending a replacement).

As for the original question, you WILL need an adapter to make it work. I think most of the portable DVD player sports the same kind of plug, so you might wana check adapters for thoses.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rafalense:
Here you can check my previous post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8949752&postcount=14

I received it yesterday, but, it doens't work. My idea is to open it (already done :)) and swap GROUND/MIC cables, so then will fit with i9000 pinout
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] PrinceOD:
Hey, I don't suppose you could tell me in which electronics store you found that cable and adapter? I'm not having any luck finding one on ebay, but I do live in Canada. It'd be awesome if I could plug one of my nicer external mics in to this thing to do some recording in a pinch!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Arise:
Yeah, that one is said to be compatible with iPhones/iPads/iPods so you have to open it and swap the mic with ground.

If you don't want to use a ready made mic for your phone without any adapter, then you need such an adapter. Shops that sells portable DVD players as those found in cars could help you to find such a splitter.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rafalense:
It workes fine swapping the cables, but I lost it :s. I will buy at least 2 more

Anyway, I recorded this video on friday night. As you will see, quality is so good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Panxnk61Hok
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
You've recorded with this

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20714

and swapped the wires?

Sounds pretty good! ;) Might catch one myself!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rafalense:
No, I lost it before I recorded that

I use to record video without audio, and audio with Tapemachine
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] woeds:
what mic did you use to record the video then?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] PrinceOD:
Hey, T1mman, would you mind telling me where you picked up that Philips cable / adapter set? Am I reading this correctly and seeing that it's a 3.5mm plug (on the video site) which will accept a mic input?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rafalense:
the internal one
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] woeds:
huh? without any software modifications? it sounds so much better than what I get in similar situations.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
i got it from a local electronic superstore in Quebec

http://www.acceselectronique.ca/lesite/index.php?id_lang=1

It turns the TRRS into one TRS and a mono plug (Tip+Sleeve) for the mic-in. all in 3.5mm

You can also get it with amazon or anywhere the sell portable DVD player (or a similar one) as they use the same type of plugs for the TV-Out
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] PrinceOD:
Awesome, thanks a million. When my phone gets back from being repaired *sigh* I'll give it a shot!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] henkjandetuinman:
So, if i'm understanding right, you record a video with the audio set off, running tapemachine in the background recording the audio. Later, you combine the recorded audio with the video via some kind of video-editor program on your pc ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rafalense:
Yep, I multiplex both audio and video with Yamb
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] maskarellet:
But, there are 2 micro options in tapemachine. Which one did you use? the back micro or the front one? Did you use audioboost to slow down the micro gain? if not, could you show us your configutarion, please?

thx
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] el afortunado:
Rafalense, could you tell us how you opened up the external mic and swapped the wires?

I've got some basic soldering skills, but my mic hasn't come in yet and I was hoping to read into it before starting:)

Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] SexyIceCream:
would like to know as well if you used audioboost! thanks!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] rafalense:
Sure. Tapemachine has is own gain, but for some noisy environment, you should use audioboost to decrease it more. As for other people conclusions, best option seems to be the front mic

El afortunado, you have to remove the capsule (mine was fixed by pressure only), and the mic is there, just swap cables and you are done
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] raphy972:
wow! It's way better than recording with the camera! We can make it with this built-in mic so a software solution can be found!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] woeds:
Wow, so it's actually just the crappy camcorder software? Does anyone know a good camcorder app that has automatic gain, just like Tapemachine?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Jivel:
Hi guys,

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I need to connect an external mic to my galaxy s in order to record higher quality sound than I get from the inbuilt mic in the handsfree.

I'm unsure if the methods in this thread still apply after the gingerbread release. :confused:

Ive tried every combination yet I cannot get an external mic to be picked up. Ive attached an image of the adapters I have, which I think should follow suit to the original poster.

Any idea what Im doing wrong? Could it be an impedance issue.

Samsung pinout arrangement is as follows: http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/samsung_galaxy_headset_pinout.shtml

Any help greatly appreciated. ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
The only way to check if the adaptator is "compatible" is to check with the ring and the "output" for continuity. Either with a check light or an ohmmeter. I'll check my adaptator tonight to confirm wich one is the mic

Also, did you check if video mode is deactivated?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] Jivel:
Thanks for the response, yes tv output was turned off.

I think the issue is the adapter I bought uses a different ring to output to the video plug (which we want to use for the mic). I think the standards are different. Its impossible to find the same adapter you used in the UK.

I think it might be a case of me breaking open the thing and rerouting some wires.

From what I gather its the 3 & 4th pin (video/mic and ground) that I need to hook into in order to use an external mic?
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
just confirming, it's ring 3 and 4
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
Update on this,

For JVQ (2.3.4), the line out doesn't work with the video recorder.

So the only way to record during live (loud) event is with a kernel that support Voodoo sound and set it up to loud.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] tivoenator:
I've been playing around with this and have not yet been able to get an external mic working. The standard Samsung earbuds with mic works ok recording video but I made an adapter up using the pinout per above but it doesn't work...the internal mic still operates.

I think the problem may be that the phone doesnt know that the headset is connected because the 2 audio out lines aren't connected, only the mic is.

I'm about to modify my adapter so that the 2 lines to the earbuds are connected to a set of buds and the mic lines are connected to a mic.

Will post back if that works.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] tivoenator:
Well, its nothing to do with having earbuds connected...I tried that.

I'm trying to use a sony wireless mic ECM-AW3, maybe it has something to do with the mic impedance, if its not right the internal mic is used.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
AFIAK this works only with Froyo, not GB
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] tivoenator:
Thanks. I've experimented with a few mics and have got it working with a standard pc mic, the specs say its 1.2k ohm.

The sony one I think is more like a line out signal so the phone doesn't detect it as a mic.
[Galaxy S I9000 Accessories] t1mman:
Your saying it works with a standard mic without any adapter?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] t0ph0id:
Winamp has made it to Android

http://blog.winamp.com/2010/10/20/winamp-for-android-now-in-beta/

All it needs now is for someone here to theme it...

Anyone tried it yet? I'm gonna give it a go.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] time_shock:
this is gonna get interesting!
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] britoso:
Theres a thread in the generic Android forum: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=814676
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] amandadam:
Works fine on my Vibrant.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] sonnysekhon:
I tried theming it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8755966#post8755966
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] amnigo:
I gave it a go. Works well, best one I've used so far outside of MixZing. Those who would want wifi syncing though, I'm sure, like Winamp more.
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] Zephyron:
Is there playlist option support and a play all option?
[Nexus One Themes and Apps] TorrentzRock:
I am reviving this thread as I am having a tough time finding any skins for Winamp (Android obviously). Anyone?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twenty850:
I am very intrested in learning how to create my own rom and becoming a dev...I have no clue where to start....if anyone would like to give me some pointers i would highly appriciate it! someone please get me started on the right path!! :D
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheDanimal:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=667298

read through all the stuff there.
[HD2 General] pinkstuff:
Girlfriend got me a leo - - i believe i can do some bits and bobs to enhance this phone..Any help welcomed.. Also i dont mind trying out android on this phone as it has all the right hardware - - but will it be stable.. let me know guys..
[HD2 General] DN41:
does "xda search" say anything to you? :D

DN41
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
Not much :D:D

Can't you give him the download links on what he need:rolleyes::D:D
[HD2 General] DN41:
oh yeah :) i'm a professional link-provider and earn 0€ per month...:mad:

lol :D

DN41
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
It was only to be funny! ;):D:D

The question of the OP; was like ow I will play on the Lotto, do anyone have the winning numbers!?
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
Now seriously, based on the info you give it's difficult to help you.

but you can get start to take a look on this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=535

and read the sticky thread's!

next take a look on this thread to see some examples on what is possible;

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=582619

And generally CHT [Cookie Home Tab] is appreciated!

Ps, take a look on the thread I opened fore newbies, there are some useful info and links.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=784430
[HD2 General] DN41:
great work ;)

nothing to add :P

haha ;) i think i'm out of that job and you're the one.

(i understood your irony or whatever ;) dont know another word for that :P )

DN41
[HD2 General] kurt-willems:
:D:D Yeah, its may taste of humor :D:D:D
[HD2 General] mahi58:
Personally I tried a lot of options, and my leo is quite angry of me because I did every possible thing with her (:D).

I suggest reading this thread, it gives you a good start...

My choice if I where you:

1. HardSPL your device (Instructions available in the thread mentioned above).

2. Install some good cooked ROM (Hacked windows mobile version) on your phone. My own choice: Artemis.

3. Download and install some good android build. My own choice: mattc.

P.S: BTW, do gals give guys gifts as expensive as Leo in your place? I wish I lived in your country! :D
[Dash 3G, Snap General] UTero:
do anybody has such problem with s521's camera? (twitpic. com /2onfrn) (without spaces):mad:

I thought that ROM chainging will solve this problem but I was wrong.
[Dash 3G, Snap General] neocorpse:
That looks like it might be a photo effect. Check the settings for your camera as you're using it to make sure you have all the photo effects turned off. Also check the exposure, brightness, light settings as you could have something enabled or disabled that causes this. If your cam has a flash see if you can set it to meter or disable, but I'm pretty sure it's an effect. I don't have that phone so I have no idea what or where your camera settings would be but it's safe to say a bit of tinkering may yield positive results.
[Dash 3G, Snap General] UTero:
It's not effect) rom flashing has not solved the problem)
[General Questions and Answers] gazerdude:
just got Froyo on my Captivate. since then I can't get the Bluetooth to connect to either of my devices. says 'pairing...' then does nothing. any one else?
[EVO 4G General] tritron777:
I compiled CM from source but I am missing keyboard. I wonder if anyone know why.
[EVO 4G General] hooover:
Find a .apk for a keyboard and flash it...maybe you just overlooked it
[EVO 4G General] tritron777:
What application provides keyboard for CM. I found one from droid that allows for multi touch.