yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
Lmao! You need to forward that and the email about it being on first of January and ask em to make up their minds! Cause playing with our minds is like playing with our money KYOCERRA!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] s23bog:
Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc. This email message is in response to your inquiry when the firmware update will be available for your Sanyo Zio M6000 phone.

The firmware update will be available in March 2011. We have decided to skip 2.1 and 2.2 in favor of going straight to 2.3.

If you have any further questions, or are interested in purchasing, or information on accessories for your Kyocera Communications Inc. phone, please contact us at any of the phone numbers listed below:

-E-Mail: phone-help@kyocera-wireless.com

-Phone: (800) 349-4478 (Toll-free USA and Canada only)

-International Access: (858) 882-1401 (Outside the USA)

-Fax: (858) 882-1717

Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc.

Steve,

Technical Support Specialist

Kyocera Communications Inc.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] vengeance937:
I apologize dissappearing I eent back an seen I was asked questions. I used the factory hero rom. Took an made copys of all the cricket apks from stock 1.6. Everything worked amaxingly except had a few bugs getting it to media sync with pc. Just make sure to back up the 1.6 factory rom and the carrier apk files to make everything work right. An ps do not back up with clockwork mod it will ruin the phone an bootloop(bypassable by modem mode 1 or 2 times then brick).. they ruined the phone by not allowing much playing go on with the system. Even after root still restrictive. Maybe better to wait for the update to save any possible hassles. I bricked 2 playing with em till I found the system an softkey set up was just like the hero an switched out roms.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aago1254:
yes i did that to them i said well on a forum this what your company sent someone else.. its getting old and will switch to a htc if they dont get it pushed soon.

anyway with all the reading i have been looking online and i have heard that the cricket store to recover a crashed zio. they use the virgin copy of the 1.6 sdk from google to bring it back so im thinking if all it is that simple and having the copy of the phone dump that has been floating on this forum maybe we could make our own rom again im not a programmer and wish i was with the little research i have found online it seems easy to make a good rom...

anyway if sayno or cricket are stating correct they are going to push it by link and not over the air this means if they are telling the truth we will have the raw rom to look at this will be good if we can get a look on how its working with the bootloader then we can make it work with ether rom manager or even like how the htc do it. again 2.3 will be possible shortly after the release if they put 2.1 on a site to download. so im keeping my fingers crossed for a link and not over the air..

again this is me getting my hopes up with all the lies from sanyo and cricket i will wait or give up and start looking at developing my own rom myself because of what i read it shouldnt be that hard and try somethings myself.with the background i already have in linux i dont see why not.. if i dont see the update by march first im going to retire the phone and get me a htc to flash to cricket.. dont get me wrong i will work on the zio so if i crash the phone i will not be without phone service
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aago1254:
hello sir your able to get the bootloader and the rom to work together with a htc hero rom. how are you able to do this is there anyway you can hit me up and get me those steps maybe we can tag team the whore and get it working better im thinking that... i would combine my settings from my site http://cricketflash.co.cc and the htc eris mms fix to get things tickin but my biggest worry is getting the bootloader to accept the rom im giving it. or even where to start

if you got everything working what rom did you use on the hero??? and what version was it. i never use media sync anyway i removed it when i had a droid x never worked on the flashed droid x (long story about how it died)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] s23bog:
Please note my edit

If you take a look at my edit on the post saying 2.3, it was meant to suggest that it was a fabricated email. Sorry for the confusion, it just began to look like others were doing the same, and I thought I'd demonstrate how ridiculous all this "proof" of what Kyocera was saying was.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
Not all the e-mails have been fabricated, although some certainly have. The actual truthful information so far is that there is indeed a 2.1 upgrade coming sometime in "early 2011". There has been no exact date and I doubt we will get one before the actual release. The wide spread speculation is that it will be in January (although I wouldn't be surprised if it arrived in February or March based on how companies define the words “early in the year”). I certainly would not hold my breath on it being here on New Years day although I am sure some malcontent will be on the forums moaning and groaning about how 12:01 am next Saturday is "early 2011" and Cricket didn't realease the upgrade yet. People need to take the hint that "early in the year" can mean more than just "January 1, 2011".

It is not a 2.2 or 2.3 update, it is 2.1 with no extra fancy bells and whistles and it is not going to be on some secret server at area 51 where only those needing it for the ultra black ops alien autopsy will get it and it won't be here tomorrow.

Kyocera has been saying the update will come in “early 2011” since September and they have always officially stated it would be 2.1.

Anything else is utter bull crap, plain and simple.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
+1
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] garmaekawa:
Got this from Kyocera-

Just got this:

Dear ReplaceWithCustomersName,

Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc. This email message is in response to your inquiry regarding the availability of the Android OS update for the Sanyo Zio.

The Android OS update will be available first quarter of 2011.

If you have any further questions, or are interested in purchasing, or information on accessories for your Kyocera Communications Inc. phone, please contact us at any of the phone numbers listed below:

-E-Mail: phone-help@kyocera-wireless.com

-Phone: (800) 349-4478 (Toll-free USA and Canada only)

-International Access: (858) 882-1401 (Outside the USA)

-Fax: (858) 882-1717

Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc.

Erl

Technical Support Specialist

Kyocera Communications Inc.

​

Ya gotta love that "personal touch" in the greeting! (Thanks, "Erl")
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
As I stated earlier in the thread:

The wide spread speculation is that it will be in January (although I wouldn't be surprised if it arrived in February or March based on how companies define the words “early in the year”).
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aago1254:
update ha ha right never going to happen ill believe it when i see it. lies lies lies
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
This is pretty much what they have been saying since the phone came out.

I can understand some frustration, but it does no good to simply over react and call the only consistent thing they have said "lies, lies, lies".

The only "lies" have been from other users, not Kyocera or Cricket.

We all need to stay reasonable...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hlaalu:
Sorry all, I know I promised to get "written" proof of the 2.2, but my contact was laid off before she could find out a definite answer. BUT, some Cricket guys from HQ came to my store today, we spent hours playing with the new samsung muve phone. Anyways, I popped the question of course, the delay of the update is because they are busy working on the 2.2. They want to skip the 2.1 so the Zio becomes more appealing than the $99 ascend with 2.1. They are shooting for February.

This is what I have been told, take it however you like. Cheers!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jkeithsowell:
FCC Complait

I complained to the FCC about Cricket and the Android problem. This is a copy of the letter I recieved today from Cricket in response:

December 27, 2010

Federal Communications Complaint

Online Complaint

Re:J. Keith Sowell

FCCComplaint ID: 10-C00252631-1

Cricket Account No: 720-******7-8

Dear Sir/Madam:

This correspondence is in reference to J. Keith Sowell who filed a complaint about the

Android operating system on his Kyocera ZIO smartphone. He is asking why he didn't

get the Android version 2.1 operating system as it is available on other carriers' Android

platform handsets.

Our research indicates that the version 2.1 of the Android operating system is not

available for distribution on Cricket's network. We anticipate releasing version 2.2

sometime in February, 2011. While we cannot guarantee this delivery date, the upgrade

is in process.

We trust that Mr. Sowell is aware he had a choice to purchase an Android version 2.1

smartphone - the Huawei Ascend-offered in the same price range as the Kyocera Zio.

Or, he had the option to purchase the Sprint phone with the preferred Android platform

to which he referred in his complaint.

We do appreciate Mr. Sowell's time in pursuing the update matter and trust that the

above information provides a sufficient explanation for the version status.

Regards,

Corporate Customer Relations

6380 S Fiddlers Green Circle, Suite 900

Greenwood Village, CO 80111
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jkeithsowell:
I complained to the FCC about the Android problem. This is a copy of the reply from Cricket I recieved today:

December 27, 2010

Federal Communications Complaint

Online Complaint

Re:J. Keith Sowell

FCCComplaint ID: 10-C00252631-1

Cricket Account No: 720-******7-8

Dear Sir/Madam:

This correspondence is in reference to J. Keith Sowell who filed a complaint about the

Android operating system on his Kyocera ZIO smartphone. He is asking why he didn't

get the Android version 2.1 operating system as it is available on other carriers' Android

platform handsets.

Our research indicates that the version 2.1 of the Android operating system is not

available for distribution on Cricket's network. We anticipate releasing version 2.2

sometime in February, 2011. While we cannot guarantee this delivery date, the upgrade

is in process.

We trust that Mr. Sowell is aware he had a choice to purchase an Android version 2.1

smartphone - the Huawei Ascend-offered in the same price range as the Kyocera Zio.

Or, he had the option to purchase the Sprint phone with the preferred Android platform

to which he referred in his complaint.

We do appreciate Mr. Sowell's time in pursuing the update matter and trust that the

above information provides a sufficient explanation for the version status.

Regards,

Corporate Customer Relations

6380 S Fiddlers Green Circle, Suite 900

Greenwood Village, CO 80111
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
Good job! Hold these fools to the fire, they want to pussyfoot around and not give us upfront info because they don't have to.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
Also good to "know" were getting 2.2 instead of 2.1
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
To me, the REAL issue is both Kyocera AND Cricket's refusal to make the source code for their ROM available - those "user experience" "interface" (whatever terms they used) that they've tweaked and are testing in the android OS to work on the phone, NOT their less-than-forthcoming information about a tentative date for the release of an update.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
Hopefully they don't tweak it into a pos
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] LiuAnshan:
Let me know how that goes.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rosco77:
I whill, I whill let you know
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sra502:
Wth?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ssconceptz:
I know this is off topic but I wanted to know which universal root works for the Zio?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hotaru:
universal androot.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ssconceptz:
Thank you.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
Lmfao!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kennyminot:
Cricket CES 2011

I currently have an iPhone, but I plan to switch to Cricket as soon as I get a phone that meets my specifications. At the moment, the Zio seems likes the ticket, but I don't want to upgrade so long as it has an ancient version of Android. I don't want to take the risk and just have to purchase a new phone sometimes in the next few months.

Of course, I've been thinking Cricket will release some new phones, so I've been keeping up with their CES news. For the most part, it has been swamped with the announcement of the Muve service, but I managed to find this article on other products (including one of Viewsonic's tablets!). Buried in the article, I found the following statement:

I think that confirms that the update will be 2.2. Of course, I wish they'd hurry up and release the damn thing so I can make the transition. There is also rumors of a 3.2 inch Samsung phone.

I would like to post the full article, but I'm not allowed because I'm a new user. Just go to PCMag and search for "cricket smartphones CES 2011."
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
Well I can not speak for everyone else, but "one handed porn viewing" and a "non-stick screen" wasn't at the top of my list of features when I was shopping for a phone.

Hopefully we don't have to go down this road of lowest common denominator in this thread...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] russevan:
Is performance better on 2.2?

I'm glad there's discussion on this phone. I was stoked about $55/month with unlimited Internet on Cricket, but it's been a little bit of a letdown. Supposed to pay my second-month's bill today, but I'm hesitating.

I've looked around for Zio users on Sprint that have already been upgraded to 2.x, to see if their experience is any better than us 1.6ers, but haven't seen anything.

I've got a few performance peeves about the phone in its current state (I'm just running out-of-the-box 1.6)--seconds for my home screen to come up, 3 second delays when I turn from portrait to landscape for typing, the voice control app taking seconds to open, status bar pulldown hesitating. My wife's iPod touch and iPad never have such delays, so it bothers me. My buddy's X phone never waits an instant.

I like the high-res screen, the small form factor, and the wide-open possibilities with Android. I hope 2.2 takes away the performance problems (or is 600mhz not enough to ever have this overcome? Is there insufficient RAM on-board, causing too much swap?)

Anyone seen info on whether Sprint users are HAPPIER with their Kyocera Zios on 2.2?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hotaru:
my brother has a sprint zio (afaik still on 2.1), and he's been happy with it. 2.x runs a lot better than 1.x on most devices. every new version of android so far has brought significant performance improvements.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
A lot of critics like to bash the processor in this phone without realizing that early and mid 2010 several more expensive phones used the exact same processor with similar amounts of RAM. The main difference is they were using more recent versions of Android and those phones got better reviews (even a couple of Palm and Blackberry phones use it and since November 5 new LG phones have been released with it). I am guessing that with the Android update, performance will improve.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] russevan:
Good to hear that other phones have (and still) successfully used this processor and RAM. There's lots to like about the Zio--maybe another month with Cricket, and I decide about another $55 on Feb 10... (hoping with all my heart for the update before then).

Thanks for the info. If it doesn't turn out as we hope, the phone will probably sell for more with 2.2 on it, anyway!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aago1254:
still waitnig

i been waiting forever to see the 2.1 update to the zio but i im starting to think its not going to happen. if i dont see the update by march 1st i will be using a htc hero on cricket. cricket enough is enough and i dont want to wait much longer for a out of date update to 2.1

I am glad to hear the update is going to be given to us through this website this is what cricket and sanyo is saying it will be on the sanyo website i think this might be the link

http://www.ziobykyocera.com/downloads/cricket/

if we get the update and if its on a download update like the motorola cliq then we can get some devopement going for a even a better version of android again all wishfull thinking cricket keeps dropping the ball
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
Actually these updates are usually OTA, meaning Over the Air...which means they download using the "Update tool" installed on your phone. Cricket has always officially maintained that their update will be available OTA or, if you need another way to do it, you would have to go to a Cricket dealer to get the update. They will not put it on the website. The site you linked to is owned by Kyocera, and Cricket is under no obligation to allow Kyocera to post the update on their website, and most likely will not since cricket seems to want to restrict their software as much as possible.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] z3r0t0l0rEnCe:
The bad press they are getting from me is how damn slow they are to release the update. I'm already about to drop Cricket like a bad habit just because of how slow they are with this release! There is no reason to take this long on releasing an update when the rest of the Android world has 2.2 or 2.3 already!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] DarkkEnergy:
I'm actually content with my cricket Zio. I have ADW launcher w/custom themes installed to make up for the stock launcher. I like the $55 unlimited service and the monthly pay as you go without a yearly subscription plan. Plus the phone isn't that bad.

I'm certain that v2.2 fw will improve processing speeds along with other things. We'll get the update alright but we'll have to sit down and wait for it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Matt724:
Hi, I am trying to get my zio working again. I have been to this forum quite a bit trying to find out what I could try to do to recover my phone after messing around with the universal androot and the clockwork recovery before it was working with the zio, I have started a thread of what I have been trying using fastboot to try and recover this phone http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=915621
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
Wow. It is just a phone guy, have you no self discipline or self control? I mean really...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] abmontano:
Hahaha
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xmicroman:
major kudos for saying what some would never say. 55 dollar cell. free xda app. watching a train wreck... priceless.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
Bipolar and attention deficit doesn't equal a cell phone being that important. But hey, I guess if things were put into perspective, people wouldn't have a reason to whine and cry all day long that a low end phone on a low end carrier hasn't been updated yet...

Kind of makes me fear for the future of humanity a bit...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
You can give him kudos for saying it...I kind of pitty him for actually feeling it...it is really sad that someone has so little of a life that a software upgrade on a cell phone effects him that much.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jkheitzman:
What's up my fellow disenfranchised zio owners,

I am currently on the phone with kyocera and they are expecting the android 2.1.2 update in february. that is all the information they have. There is no talk at this time of a 2.2 or 2.3 android os update. This is current as of 12:34 est january 20, 2011. If you would like to call yourself the number is 18003494478. The reference number is as follows 2143752. I hop this helps
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] LordAnarchy:
13 pages of laughs

This thread is hilarious man, Ive been dying reading all the pages. The principle issue to me is that they wanted to sell this phone for MORE than the Huawei yet have it running 1.6 and have been sitting on their hands, taking their time to update.

The FCC letter, I feel, is the best proof of 2.2. Proof? LOL... The update is as elusive as bigfoot and 9/11 conspiracy theories. The letters from Kyocera that listed 2.1, 2.2, and 2.3 were f'in hilarious.

In the end, all we can do is sit and wait. I question whether future Android phones will also have to wait for long periods their update. Zios want 2.1, Ascends want 2.2. C'est la vie.

Best of luck to us all and I can't WAIT til folks post that their Zio received the update. "You need to post pictures of your SSN card, ID, and the Zio phone in the same picture to prove this".
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
That is one of the major issues with Android. No one gets updates right away. By the time everyone has the "latest" version, Google has already released another 3 updates and no one is happy because it is going to be months before they get any of those versions on their phone and by that time there is going to be yet another 3 versions out...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] s23bog:
Pat on back

Let me guess Rosco. You created another user id, just so you could give yourself props in a post, and give yourself a thank you.

I guess you really do like masturbating.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
Read it and STFU about the lack of an update

http://m.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/the-flawed-android-update-process-too-many-cooks/581?tag=nl.e550

Quotes from the article:

Now would you all just STFU about the update? It's coming. Be patient. Or don't be patient, whine and ***** and moan or get a phone that's already got the OS version you want. Then start *****ing and moaning AGAIN because google released another OS version and your phone doesn't have the update yet.

Rinse. Repeat.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
Eh, it is ok. If he wants to spend all of his time following me around like the paparazzi and commenting on everything I say, then maybe he will keep both hands on the keyboard for a while. I am sure his carpal tunnel could use the break.

On the other hand, it is rather flattering to know that I got to him so bad...its frickin hilarious that I take 3 minutes of my time and enrage someone for days.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rosco77:
No, its the same name I was using before and of course I like doing that who wouldn't. If you say you don't you're either a liar or you're impotent.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rosco77:
I only use one hand when typing because I swype on my 1.6 zio so my other hand is free to please.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Spz0:
Rofl! +1