yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 General] tezzad:
SE have mentioned somewhere in their blog that they will only support the xperia x10 for 2 years in terms of FW updates, so there is really only a year left for them do do so. My point is..with all the money, time and hassle they've gone through to get just one update..would it not be commercially more viable for them to to totally abandon the x10 and open up the bootloader?

I mean they've shown that updating from 1.6 to 2.1 was obviously a monumental task for them, wasting time, man hours and money as well as damaging their reputation. I think it makes more sense for them to give us the bootloader and concentrate their efforts on future projects.

Really, the average user doesn't care what FW his phone has as long as it looks good and has nice apps..The only people that really care are slightly more 'tech savvy'..and they are wanting to mod the phone themselves.

So, in conclusion my message to SonyEriccson is:

1.Delight your customers.

2.Save yourselves time/money.

3.Repair damaged reputation.

4.Concentrate more resources towards developing more products.

and how do we do this?

Announce that the (disasterous) 2.1 update will be the last officially supported one and open up the bootloader to the Dev communities.
[XPERIA X10 General] liquidtensoion:
We have igloos in Canada.

Do we qualify as Nordic ???

(Sorry couldn't resist)

:D
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
I have X10a which was purchased form Rogers in Canada. I put X10i files any brand and any region it won't be able to upgrade from 16 in either PC Companion or SEUS but it does OTA to 20 or 26.

One thing doesn't change with phone and that is IMEI number and SE could track your phone when you are updating and see who did the sell the phone to (Rogers ATT etc.)

So I am thinking that no matter what FW and region is loaded on your phone, doesn't matter since you won't get it for that region unless you really purchased you phone from that region and with SE specification that update service will look for.

I bet part of all these delays is that SE doesn't want people to crack into their system. Look at Xperia bootloader which is not cracked. They have update PC Companion and SEUS whole bunch of times in the last month. They have locked every Little loop holes to make sure no one unbrands their phone.

This is the strategy and they won't let you Download the FW. I bet we may have to wait for developers to make this possible for us, so you better start donating.:D

Just my 2 cents
[XPERIA X10 General] kloud_:
Someone messed with the tags again..!! lolz :D
[XPERIA X10 General] totalperception:
Ding ding ding

Someone who finally gets what I'm saying. SE knows when they built your phone and for what region and/or carrier. Stop wasting your time with debrands and butch up Sally. You're getting the 2.1 version designed for you region and carrier. No ifs ands or buts about it. SE's security features will completely lock all development efforts in flashing other ROM's.
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
...and Who gives You this info ?
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
Now I am even thinking if I want even 2.1 from SE on my phone. I would rather donate more and may get some more developers here to crack this sucker before the patch up more loop holes on the bootloarder for 2.1/

I wait little longer. Imagine if everyone flash their phones with 2.1 and nor roll back to 1.6 anymore with more secured bootloader the price of X10 with 1.6 will go up if its bootloader gets cracked.

:D:eek:
[XPERIA X10 General] pulpoff:
Don't listen to this TROLL, he's completely wacked and has no idea what he says.
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
Noone, that's the point I was making earlier, noone knows anything really but everyone is scaremongering. LET'S ALL JUST WAIT FOR MONDAY AND WE WILL KNOW.

Now stop making assumptions
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
Are you flaming him because you don't have your own ideas to share? He is just saying it as his own idea. and it makes sense.
[XPERIA X10 General] pato66:
i buy a free phone, why cant have the update arrive at the same time?
[XPERIA X10 General] liquidtensoion:
:confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
I suggest we keep the root method a secret first if ever it can be done already. SE might make a quick hotfix to disable root if we disclose it now.
[XPERIA X10 General] pato66:
sorry for my bad english, but you can answer
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
You can't buy a free phone. If you pay for it, it's not free.

However, you can give a phone you bought for free.

I can send you a mailing address.

A more convenient way for me is you sell your phone, and donate the money to my paypal account. LOL

Just joking..What is it that you want to imply?
[XPERIA X10 General] JuaNMaN:
This...

Mega LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] pato66:
I meant non-telephone company, is free
[XPERIA X10 General] Zer0_:
hahahaha :)
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Ah you mean unlocked.

You will get the update at the same time if your FW is Nordic.

What's your firmware? You can check by going to the secret menu:

Lock the phone but make sure it is lighting up

Press

menu back back menu back menu menu back
[XPERIA X10 General] tready:
All se needs to do and most likely dose is read xda.devs convos between eeach other and they will no every loop hole going my gess is once u upgrade your stuck with it and no root
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Odin's beard! Look at the tags!

Yarr!
[XPERIA X10 General] pamodio2305:
Guys....my firmware version is generic R2BA026 but my brand is saying customised. Is my phone actually debranded???
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
3 words:

Dont.

Underestimate.

Devs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Customised means branded
[XPERIA X10 General] pato66:
then if Flash to nordic version, I can get the update once you leave, you believe that Omnius have it?
[XPERIA X10 General] tready:
Go seek the fw guru he lives on page 150
[XPERIA X10 General] rkanwar:
This must mean mines still branded? But i have none of the network installed apps. Therefore it must be debranded
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
:( I'm leaving tomorrow (Saturday) for the Halloween break. We have a coven gathering (which of course means no technology) and I'll be back on Tuesday... But most likely you will have the update on Sunday. You won't have the update right away when I leave as I think I'm at an earlier timezone at GMT+8:00.

They use the flash tool to go Nordic... I think it's just a few pages back you don't have to search long...
[XPERIA X10 General] pato66:
sorry, but if brand is not updated version 016 to 026 by seus and update custom if not therefore be the same, custom and generic.
[XPERIA X10 General] reptile64:
take a look a galop from a Greek website

LOL Sony Ericsson eat my ****!

http://www.myphone.gr/forum/showthread.php?t=286822
[XPERIA X10 General] forzanerazzurri:
Nobody can read that garbage.
[XPERIA X10 General] MarylandCookie:
Ive uploaded Generic Nordic R2BA026 if anyone wants it:

http://www.multiupload.com/MASFO6YRKW

(Still uploading - give it some time :) )
[XPERIA X10 General] jayman1986:
No its unbranded as we figured out in an earlier discussion yesterday
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxo87:
Are you all sure we would get the update on sunday if we switch to that nordic firmware?

Don't think the firmware is color-specific... I mean, the update process should be looking for some other info on the phone to determine its color. totalperception's idea may be right.

Well mates, who the heck cares anyway? We have been waiting for months for this update... Just hold on :)
[XPERIA X10 General] _calum_:
So you're a witch - I knew it. It was you that cursed SE so the update was delayed in september :mad:
[XPERIA X10 General] mpasanthosh:
hi

hi thanks for the upload.

can it be used with the flash tool?
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxo87:
That's a survey: Which mobile phones manufacturer do you prefer most?

Nokia is obviously at top with HTC and Apple, Sony Ericsson seems to be a little in trouble. :D
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Ahhhrg I'm confused with this branded-unbranded thing. Maybe because in our country, you are free to choose whatever carrier you like because there are more prepaid users over postpaid ones...

Sorry for the confusion!
[XPERIA X10 General] steinrk:
Looking forward to Sunday

For the moment I'm quite pleased to be living far up here in the north :D

Can hardly wait to Sunday.
[XPERIA X10 General] MarylandCookie:
Yes, just extract both zips to where your flash tool is and your good to go :)
[XPERIA X10 General] clozecall:
Is there a set of commands to find out what region firmware I'm running? My phone is debranded, but not sure with what region. I have the link if someone might know. I used Bina4ry's root and debrand method via:

http ://forum.xda- developers. com/showthread.php?t=711907

To confirm I have root access and R2BA026 (which isn't available through my carrier: Rogers), plus when starting up the phone my carrier's logo is gone.
[XPERIA X10 General] ellokomen:
what time zone are norway and nordic contries?
[XPERIA X10 General] uvaman:
@cro guys

Ja napadam se cro na fejsu pa cu ih konstantno cimat da nam to cim prije

srede pa probajte i vi malo da ih pritisnemo ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
LOL what does Rikard mean by 'color'? Is it the CID (Brown, Red, etc.) or the actual color of the phone?

Oh my! My Pearl White u20i will receive the update earlier because it's much cooler that the black one!
[XPERIA X10 General] LordGabriel:
GMT+1, though, that's only after 3am this sunday :P (DST and such)
[XPERIA X10 General] TheGizmoDude:
+1,

and I have vpn access I can use for internet access via Sweden if I need as well.
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Lock the phone but make sure it lights up.

press menu back back menu back menu menu back.

You are now inside Emma! Just keep it safe and always remember to exit before 'you know what' LOL

Inside you'll find the infos you need
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Thanks, but if I have an X10a no point right? Since SEUS won't work?
[XPERIA X10 General] SK_007:
Can somone tell me how can i change my firmware to nordic,i have tried 3 times using SEUS but failed

Thanks in advance!
[XPERIA X10 General] tigermrk:
exactly - i said this the other day myself....

a wise man would stay on 1.6 were there will be loopholes.

Although i bet once UK is released ill just flash anywayz.

Anyone from NORDIC regions fancy trying to flash back to 1.6 after they update on sunday and letting us all know please?
[XPERIA X10 General] clozecall:
Wow excellent info!!! Mine is listed as:

Model X10a

Country: Generic

Brand: Customized

Now I'm sure its been annoyingly answered many times, with my phone running with the above specs, what region would that count as?
[XPERIA X10 General] njfpolyr6:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=717818

just assumption, DO NOT take it as a fact.

if you go back to Ironova "Update 1.6 by countires" the history timeline of update 1.6 FW acts the same as the 2.1 roll-out...

again...just an assumption...NOT a fact....
[XPERIA X10 General] tigermrk:
customized does not mean branded
[XPERIA X10 General] pato66:
the global version has a single file and the uk has 3 files and the Norse only 2 can we have a problem?
[XPERIA X10 General] mpasanthosh:
i should use the tool in XIOFUB.rar rite.?

just to confirm
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxo87:
He means the actual color of the phone.

There could be a sort of hidden hardware information on the phone, maybe the update process take those information and tries to guess the original manufacturing region. IMEI ain't telling anything about that?
[XPERIA X10 General] svprm:
Thanks man.

Mine:

Phone ver:

Generic-user

File sys ver:

World
[XPERIA X10 General] unknownerr:
x10a Flash...

Can an x10a be flashed with an x10i ROM, or am I out of luck for now trying to flash the Generic Nordic x10i?

... I have an x10a Customized Generic LAM(b) R2BA026.
[XPERIA X10 General] pato66:
Omnius gives us the color information of the phone, mine is brown in Spain.
[XPERIA X10 General] _calum_:
It's the absolute first thing I'll be doing... I'll keep y'all informed
[XPERIA X10 General] gtrab:
How to go NORDIC ??

1.- Convert to ODIN, the real god of heavens

2.- Accept THOR, his born-from-a-virgin-on-Dec-25th son as your savior and protector

3.- Worship his cross (hammer/tree)

4.- Read this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=820986

:D :D

.
[XPERIA X10 General] tigermrk:
thanksalot. ;0)
[XPERIA X10 General] _calum_:
Damn you!! I went through all that and then got to point 4 and realized that the first three were completely unnecessary :mad:

Can I revert steps 1-3 with one of the debranding methods?
[XPERIA X10 General] kloud_:
^^ lolz :D
[XPERIA X10 General] anders260:
what you will se before update ( backup)

http://www.sonyericsson.com/update/BackupAndRestore/xperiaX10?lc=en&cc=NO
[XPERIA X10 General] SK_007:
Thanks but may i ask which one is the code for nordic?
[XPERIA X10 General] MarylandCookie:
Yes that is correct. Just replace all the .sin files in the X10FUB.rar (once extracted) with the ones from the Nordic download.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
MC can we flash Nordic onto X10a's? ie will SEUS work or is it better to just wait for the 2.1 rom and then flash?
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
No way, we're still in Europe. N & S Americas will have to wait a little more than us IMO
[XPERIA X10 General] mpasanthosh:
thanks a lot downloading the flash tool now.. :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
well, maybe if you used Chrome you'd get a popup asking if you want Google to translate the page... :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] PGRX10:
After this update the X10 will be arguably the best phone on the market.

I'm not arguing with any phone though in case I get flashed!!:o
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
They can't do squat. They didn't even post the news. They're sooo out of the loop. (I'm writing in English cuz it's required here)
[XPERIA X10 General] PoTi_96:
Someone has to say it... THIS IS THE 5367th POST IN THIS THREAD.... OMG OMG OMG
[XPERIA X10 General] MarylandCookie:
Bin4rys uploaded the Nordic Firmware (decrypted) and has included the x10 flasher with it if thats easier for you to get hold of:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=823115
[XPERIA X10 General] MarylandCookie:
Id advise you to wait for the 2.1 or wait for the Dev's to see if they can rustle up a version with an x10a baseband.
[XPERIA X10 General] PGRX10:
Ok th update is out on Sunday and next week. Let's take a break and get to the jokes.

Did you hear about the new golf shot: the Ryanair.

Looks good in the air but never lands where you thought.:p
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
If your gunna do off topic, do it in the irc ;-)

Sent from E10i running 2.1( I wish) on the XDA app
[XPERIA X10 General] Bin4ry:
Latest Nordic Firmware including Flashtool for all that can't wait for their country :P

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=823115

Regards

Bin4ry
[XPERIA X10 General] PGRX10:
The IRC??.???????????
[XPERIA X10 General] kloud_:
as always thanks Bin4ry...!! :) :D
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
its on freenode.net

Channel: #x10-update
[XPERIA X10 General] kloud_:
Instant Relay Chat...??!:confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] pamodio2305:
Not good then....so should i be able to debrand to nordic firmware if i download the file then?
[XPERIA X10 General] kloud_:
yeah.... that's the basic idea..!!;)

but you'd have to install it as well...!! :p

btw gud nite everyone... m off...!! hope we get the updates tomorrow...!! :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
Oh, really, so that would mean mine's branded with whole bunch of Central European countries operators, right?

Because it says Customized Central Europe 3.

So, no, you're wrong
[XPERIA X10 General] PGRX10:
For f£&k sake.

Customized doesn't mean branded.

It means you have a country specific version.

If your phone is branded it will state your carrier like o2 orange etc.
[XPERIA X10 General] MarylandCookie:
Ive explained this on this thread a few times!

Search this post for Global World.. to save you time.
[XPERIA X10 General] 17mayis:
I took my phone to the shop this evening to find out if my phone debranded or not the guy from the shop just switched off my phone and swtiched back on and he said its debranded .. ? how come he said not any logo come up while i swiched on your phone this mean its debraned ist right?
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Is the channel on Dalnet or Undernet?

Edit:

Oh freenode.net? Oh my, the last time I used irc was 10 years back
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
irc.freenode.net
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
Whoa, 30 mins and not a single post? Something must be wrong, hehe...

Okay, I'm leaving then, too. Cya tomorrow
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
They found out that sunday is the day, the "hardcore" users are over @ #x10-update.
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
Some are happy with the announcement made earlier & others just don't care anymore I suspect.

Being a X10 owner is like arriving to a party when everyone else is leaving.
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Haha we're on IRC so it's kinda silent here
[XPERIA X10 General] tready:
Just wait untill sunday night this thread will expload once again carnt wait you will have those with the update mocking those without it ppl scrambling to debrand pics of fw and god nows wot else lol
[XPERIA X10 General] gtrab:
you are absolutely right

Couriously enough, I really don't care about 2.1 anymore... I'm getting 2.2, I want to develop.

I really liked SE when ages ago they were the leading innovator brand

:(

.
[XPERIA X10 General] fkofilee:
ive added another tag from yesterday for SE's customer support as that was raised
[XPERIA X10 General] Rich_RH:
What time Sunday?
[XPERIA X10 General] freestaler:
Oww lets go to 10000 befor sunday.

At all, who sesrch now a "nordic" fw, wait until sunday, se say that the nordic are aso at first but not only.. maybe the generic world/uk/de is aso by the first package...
[XPERIA X10 General] Android>iPhone:
My Phone software is 1227-4612_R2BA020 GENERIC.

Does it mean that I will get the update as soon as SE rolls it out in the UK or will I have to wait longer?

Because under Brand it says Orange.

I have download the file for debranding but I just want to make sure whether I have to debrand (since my phone software is Generic) or not.

I can't wait for another 4 weeks :(
[XPERIA X10 General] mipepim:
Nordic Combined/Customized (B) NORDIC COMBINED (B) - simple its default for Nordic region.

So iff you have

x10i

Nordic Combined(B)

Customized

You are OK:)
[XPERIA X10 General] phoneguy 4567:
I will most likely give Windows Phone 7 a try, my luck with Android devices has not been good. The Nexus One was a disappointment & Google isn't much better then SE when providing updates, The X10 looked promising but IMO SE has clearly shown they don't care about customers, they take the money & run.
[XPERIA X10 General] tuxStyle:
This is a joke right? :)
[XPERIA X10 General] SK_007:
thanks i just changed my firmware to nordic by the method which he(sorry i dont remember his name)provided just wanted to confirm whether i did it successfully or not can anyone please tell me that(menu,back method again)so that i can confirm

I'll be grateful.
[XPERIA X10 General] deconfrost:
my pc companion says its preparing update
[XPERIA X10 General] Android>iPhone:
menu->back->back->menu->back->menu->menu->back
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Your either doing it wrong or it's only a Service Update Pro account.
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
ok so can someone please tell me how to take a screen shot? Im in emma and its showing i can download 2 firmares which to me look exactly the same. I will copy and paste the text shown for the 2 different ones.

1 X10i CUST-UK GENERIC 1235-7379	1231-8220 Customized UK/Sensuous black	Software Update	Update Service Pro

this is 141 mb

2 X10i CUST-UK GENERIC 1235-7379	1231-8220 Customized UK/Sensuous black	Software Update Content Refresh	Update Service Pro

also 141 mb

there is an option to apply service on both of these
[XPERIA X10 General] marice22:
it is indeed a Service Update Pro account..
[XPERIA X10 General] remco.k:
I`m back to a unrooted phone with rba026
[XPERIA X10 General] marice22:
click on "more details of service", and copy/paste that info here :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
I flashed both of those, just 26, nothing special. - Indeed it's not the account we need.
[XPERIA X10 General] SaintyUK:
@steve.adams.x10, bring the EMMA window to the front of all other windows and then while holding ALT press the Prt Scr (Print Screen) button :)

Then open paint or something and press CTRL+V to paste it, then save and upload to somewhere like imageshack!
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Just click on "show file information" to find out FW info.
[XPERIA X10 General] SaintyUK:
Doh - shame that wasn't the right one. This thread moves too quickly :P
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Still nobody has CS access.
[XPERIA X10 General] rvictorg:
Damn that's a shame oh well, thanks
[XPERIA X10 General] SaintyUK:
@-PiLoT-, thanks :) doing a good job!
[XPERIA X10 General] Bluewall:
"Failed to search on services... "

I'm on switzerland. Why the firmware could be sooner in EMMA than SEUS?
[XPERIA X10 General] :
It isn't, but it's easier to search on Emma than to change CDA everytime.
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
And you're 100% positive that it's released somewhere?
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
I dunno if it checks location with the new Emma. May be lollyhost might have some info on that but the previous one only checks the inside of the device to see which type of devices it is (ie. OA devices or retail or other Dec variations) it then displays the available fw for the device. That's y lollyhost doesn't want me to connect the device because if the program sees my retail device and 2.1 is not available then I will not see it. However with employee account, if I follow his instruction then I should be able to see all the fws for x10 then we'll know which region is the 2.1 already available to. I'm still in class so I can't test it yet. Last time I logged in a few months back I couldn't log in so crossing my finger that they don't lock ip to employee comps only.
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
no 2.1, does anyone rember the email i sent to sony earlier?
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Last post: http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_34533317/mpage_3/key_/tm.htm#
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
1 description file information

CWF: 1235-7379, FS: GENERIC, CDFVer: R9A-R2BA026

sales items 1231-8220 Customised UK/Sensuous black 141mb

2 description file information

CWF: 1235-7379, FS: GENERIC, CDFVer: R9A-R2BA026

sales items 1231-8220 Customised UK/Sensuous black 141mb

this is typed out from looking at the screen, wont allow copy and paste on this section and im sorry i have no idea how to take a screen shot and post
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
the language thee is turkish, so is the update in turky?
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
i posted this in android general but maybe it's relevant here too so:

"hey i hope i dont get flamed, i think ive been as specific as i can in my subject to a target audience. im just wondering if anyone has used my backup pro to backup and then restore and has noticed that after restoring they have the same ringtones; im expecting a major firmware upgrade soon (the infamous X10 2.1 upgrade) and want to know if it's worth jotting down my ringtones in a .txt document or if the app will do it for me."