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[XPERIA X10 General] yoshik777:
Neeh? Dunno but propably we are to small group to put a pressure on them.

we just have to wait, theres nothing more for us.

Honestly even if the update will be alive i wont install it, ill wait for root, to many apps which use it on mine X10.
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
agreed :D lol
[XPERIA X10 General] xeviro:
I've been seeing this a lot. I've posted something related to this. I'll bring it up again.

Please read this below carefully in order to avoid miss-interpretation

The FACTS

SE had been trying to stop us to debranding our phone via SEUS, its getting harder and harder, sooner or later we might not be able to debrand with SEUS anymore

As mentioned, the 2.1 updates is not OTA; you need to update with SEUS

As what i have seen, new FW updates usually comes requirement of downloading or updating to latest SEUS

The updates will come for one of the brand or generic FW for sure, and the rest might have to wait 2-3 days.

So i will make up some example based on the facts above

I will use T-Mobile as example as the branded FW that will get the first 2.1 update

The new SEUS that going to be used for updating 2.1, blocked any debranding and dump method

And we never have any T-Mobile FW dumped and ready to be flashed with flashtools

What will happen to the world of X10 during this first day of update, is CHAOS and HAVOC :D as people want to have their X10 (beside T-Mobile X10) updated, but you can't because you don't have T-Mobile FW running; and more below

The new SEUS will not letting you to create a dump file that can be used to debrand with either SEUS or flashtools

There is no T-Mobile FW dumped, so you cannot flash your X10 with flashtools or even SEUS

So the rest of us will rant here and post a lot of thread and question on how to do it, and bug the DEV to solve this problem, until all other brands will get updates or DEV solve this problem.

But there is a WAY on how to solve this.

While the latest SEUS still have holes that we can use to create FW dump, we could join our effort and create all possible FW dump. No need to rush to decrypt the FW to make it ready for flashtools yet (which is the 2nd hard part)

With us having all type of branded FW ready, whichever updates comes to one of the brand; someone just need to upload their branded FW somewhere, then one of us assuming me will decrypt the FW so you can use flashtools to flash your X10.

Then run SEUS, then have the 2.1. So just within less then a week, maybe 2-3 days. All of us can update to 2.1 right away.

But this way might introduce new problem, which is IF AFTER the 2.1 updates, the updater inside X10 changed in a way our flashtools not working anymore. THEN we will STUCK with the T-Mobile FW 2.1 for example until DEV found some way.

It really amazing seeing that all of us in XDA are stucks with T-Mobile 2.1 for a while. :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
its fake

its Chinese phone...its china made phone ...
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
yaa mee too

mee too if there is not multi touch or live wallpaper than i will not update it..

or i will update after when there is confirmation that xperia 2.1 is rooted successfully ....

because there are some software needs to be root...and i am using it daily
[XPERIA X10 General] xeviro:
Or you can use this method to debranding your phone by changing the build.prop

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=760354&page=2

But last time i play around with build.prop in my phone, it give me yellow exclamation :(
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Nope it's not.. It's photoshopped
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
there is live wallpaper...
[XPERIA X10 General] mezo9090:
Agreed, so sure about it
[XPERIA X10 General] Vilam:
The 2.1 update history is the history of how $ony €ricsson change their bad attitude into a party...

And why not and iPhone Screenshot puted on the x10 ?
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
When 2.1 comes out, I think I'll update it to see if it's fine... I assume we can use our friend EMMA to change it back to 1.6 if we're not contented? And I'm pretty sure we can achieve root in less than 1 week after the 2.1 mass update.
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
hmmm but expecting Multitouch more than other

i am expecting MT rater than live wallpaper...

any ways thanks guys..here is india no one knows about the update more..
[XPERIA X10 General] devilsden:
Activity on twitter

@rahulpopuri Hi Rahul.The update won't be released today but it should be very soon. When we have an exact date, we'll let you know 1 minute ago via CoTweet in reply to rahulpopuri

@SteveMBanks Hi Steve. Why are you stressed? We'll let you know the minute we know. It should be with us all soon. less than 20 seconds ago via CoTweet in reply to SteveMBanks

SonyEricssonUK

1. @Zm4AkaZaki Thanks Zakariya. We appreciate your patience. Update shoudl be ready soon, we'll let you know when it is. half a minute ago via CoTweet in reply to Zm4AkaZaki
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
It's an obvious photoshop, anyone with a bit of experience in this will tell you, look at the top of the screen, it's bad cropped and not aligned correctly with X10 screen.
[XPERIA X10 General] nagrockz:
waiting waiting waiting
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
It's an early joke about someone posting a speculated 'photoshopped' screenshot of Angry Birds on x10 running 2.1. Which turned out genuine and we got a glimpse of what to come when 2.1 arrives with 16 more screenshots *drool* ... Anyways it's ancient history (about less that 18 hours old I think).
[XPERIA X10 General] mith500:
from sonyericssonuk twitter feed:

@rahulpopuri Hi Rahul.The update won't be released today but it should be very soon. When we have an exact date, we'll let you know
[XPERIA X10 General] ezeras:
SonyEricssonUK Sony Ericsson UK

@

@rahulpopuri Hi Rahul.The update won't be released today but it should be very soon. When we have an exact date, we'll let you know
[XPERIA X10 General] metcard:
Those slow bastards.
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Not today? Now that ruined our dreams!!
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
seus is taking a while to check!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] devilsden:
Hmmm going to shut the screen and hopefully the screen will say New update available tomorrow morning... See ya guys
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
intend to play with us until Friday ?? :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Dicko21:
Is it just me or does this update really seem not worth it....

None of my pet peeves about the X10 are solved:

still locked to 30FPS screen

No 16M colours

No apps on SD

It's really starting to be disappointing... :(
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
can we downgrade to 1.6 after update

hey guys can we downgrade to 1.6 if we dont get root on 2.1??
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
YES We can
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
I think it's very worth it.. the 2.1 update gives us more things to play with!

And more chances to brick the phone while trying out bleeding edge techs (atleast bleeding edge in the x10 family)
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
how can we downgrade?

how can we downgrade? ...is we need to take some kind of backup of 1.6 before updating to 2.1?????

like iphone if u have taking 3.1.3 backup than u can downgrade OS 4 to again 3.1.3?

tell me what kind of backup ?
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
phone must have over 50% battery before flashing. this is more of a safety thing but i'd leave it on charge for a while and have another go later on. good luck but these phones are basically brick proof (unless you get into the BL) so you should be ok.

now, back OT.....im still here, still refreshing :)

edit: quoted wrong post :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
If I manage to get into sues, would I still have to repair the firmware or would I be able to go straight to update (if its released)? Thanks for your help aswell :)
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
How many times does it need to be said - don't screw with the framework-res unless you know what you're doing.

turn on sues. Then, at the same time plug the usb into phone while turning on and holding both the middle and back button (you may need 3-4 hands). Once you get power to the phone quickly slide finger over to "back button and keep holding down (don't let go). Hit "update" then repair on SUES.

edit- you may need to keep holding the back button untill the download/update goes through.
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
Thanks. I've done a lot with the framework before, I know what I'm doing. It was just a one-off crash. (I think!)
[XPERIA X10 General] thunderpossuem:
For what its worth, its the 25th 10:35am without any sign of an update, but im optus branded so not really surprised.
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
But it's 3:40 am where Sony Ericsson is located. If their planning to launch most countries at the same time it will probably be 1pm their time. Also, are you locked to one network?
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
On @SonyEricssonNL's twitter they told someone 23 hours that their expecting it within 2 weeks...
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
Please provide links with anything you say which needs proof.

Thank you,
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
Straight from twitter.

The question:

http://twitter.com/OmdatRick/status/28606222568

The awnser:

http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonNL/status/28607483832

Note this is in Dutch.
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
Thank you, I would like to keep my hopes up and say that SE UK has only promised by the end of OCT. It will take longer in other countries.

As I remeber, there are some other SE which will release before the end of OCT.
[XPERIA X10 General] downesey:
Well were into the 25th now, I hope the 25th wasn't some heresay...see you on 2.1 guys
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
you sure that the update is now in UK?
[XPERIA X10 General] Nimche:
I guess he meant that he is going to bed because its 2:40 in the morning in UK and he will see us in 2.1 (he thinks when he gets up in the morning 2.1 should be here)
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
No one can confirmed 100% that it will be 25th. It's just the current potential launch date that SE's marketing division is notified to be. It does not have to launch on this day if the dev team does not see it fit, and many times it had happened where the marketing team would be totally off due to miscommunication between the dev and the marketing. Please keep it from relating to the 2.1 update please.
[XPERIA X10 General] Souljaded:
sorry for my ignorance... but im kinda new to XDA-dev. whats this XDA-dev app ive been seen everywhere??? and where can i get it ??? thanks in advance.
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
Search in the market for XDA, all be clear then.
[XPERIA X10 General] Bialynia:
I will check at 3:01 am UK time, fingers crossed. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Souljaded:
Thanks for the info! Montreal canada here using rogers. Ill let u guys know if anything pops up!
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
got luck getting it?
[XPERIA X10 General] dave2:
Maybe he is currently updating so he can't reply... hope this is the case: D
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
I think EMMA can do it!
[XPERIA X10 General] wing_zero8556:
well since we know its not today lets all go to sleep!
[XPERIA X10 General] ggpiucco:
It's been said by the brazilian rep that you will not be able to downgrade from 2.1 to 1.6.
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
what kind of new things to play?

what kind of new things?

and during update is there any chances to phone dead??
[XPERIA X10 General] rodak:
Via: SonyEricssonUK@Twitter

Edit: Sorry, already posted...
[XPERIA X10 General] inflamed:
@SteveMBanks Hiya Steve - sorry you're having a stressful day. Update won't be today but it will be soon. Hang in there!

SonyericssonUK
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Atleast not 'legally' :D There's always a possibility.

Regarding this, We all know that SEUS and PC Companion needs to be updated so we can install 2.1. I have a spare installer of the old PC Companion. Do you think I can use this old version to downgrade to 1.6 once I've upgraded to 2.1 using repair? It's a possibility no?
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
look guys what i found...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kEHR3o9KbE&feature=player_embedded#at=202

the video is of introuducing the live view product of sony ericsson ..

see the video and tell me what u found in this video??

if ur smart than tell me what is new in this video?
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Like new themes, apps, new things to do after root specially like modifying framework-res etc.

There is a chance to kill the phone if you unplug it while it is updating :D. you can always try it again.

I have never experienced nor seen a permanently dead phone (no means of resurrecting) by flashing.
[XPERIA X10 General] ggpiucco:
yeah, I meant not in an official way.

But then you probably would need to root it (wouldn't you? I don't know, I'm a newbie!), which was the whole point of the original question: if cannot be rooted. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
2.1 looks pretty smooth in that video

Unfortunately we have to wait atleast 1 more day
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
becoz my htc magic stuck on vodaphone only thats why i ask u

my htc magic stuck on vodaphone logo...thats why i ask u ..do u have any idea to recover my magic?
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
This is not possible because seus and pc comp update them selves when they start up. The only way you might be able to do this is by removing internet conection on start up and reconect when the program has Loaded.

Pretty risky stuff if you ask me.

You should either choose to update or choose not to.
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
at least one more day? ru sure?

at least one more day naa ...ok we wait 6 month for update now 1 day is no longer
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
Do you think the thread will reach 200 pages by the end of the day?
[XPERIA X10 General] noblackthunder:
I think we can downgrade it unless they change the bootloader (might be the reason for seus update?) Why changing the bootloader you ask? Check sum for 2.1 might be different? If we are lucky some at read we wanna open the bootloader for custom rom and he puts a backdor for yhe devs in aswell in a secret ( thats only a dream :-( )
[XPERIA X10 General] _calum_:
Dunno, but we've got over 1000 posts in two days, surely that's some kind of record...
[XPERIA X10 General] DaHu4wA:
Checksum is evertime a different one (R2BA024 and R2BA026 have different ones). There might be a new signature, but the main reason why an OTA doesn't work might be that there is too much different (Kernel etc!)
[XPERIA X10 General] Crowds:
if they continue to post things from twitter we've reached 300. i think:D:D:D
[XPERIA X10 General] Vilam:
Don't we have an home made soft to flash firmware on x10 ?
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
I'd say 130 pages... people know the update isn't coming today so they won't check as much and also, I think people have gotten sick of waiting and gone back to their lives :p
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Can't be done until the bootloader is cracked.....
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
It can and will be rooted I am sure of that! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Vilam:
I meant to flash officials firmware, a soft like omnius but free.
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
I'm sorry but I can't help you there. Haven't touched an HTC Android ever.. You might find a solution in Magic's thread though...
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
150 may be

hey guys update in Italy of Generic firmware is 8th november is confirm
[XPERIA X10 General] Hypercore:
Just woke up to no good news - very dissapointing.

No update today I assume?
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
hey guys crack the bootloder of xperia

crack the bootloder of xperia 10..so by using it we can use dual OS in phone??

like HTC hd2 offer us to use windows and android 2.2 on same phone..
[XPERIA X10 General] Crowds:
for that i dont need bootloader.

just my OMNIA, X10 and symbian nokia.

wow 3 OP:D
[XPERIA X10 General] DaHu4wA:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the thing that boots Android on the HD2 just a windows app? :p
[XPERIA X10 General] LucaRenema:
Not today so at least 1 more days waiting.

Well i think this topic will end with 200 pages. If the update rolls out another 75 pages.. Hehe nice record :D
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
first update of android 2.1 is available for Uk ??

first update of 2.1 is available for england ??

so if we are from india than is it possible for us to update from england site?
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
yaa u can port android in hd2

search on google u will find it
[XPERIA X10 General] Cablekevin:
Thats done via Haret, running on top of WinMo, nothing special.
[XPERIA X10 General] DaHu4wA:
The update is not limited by country, it depends on which FW you have on your phone.

I have mine debranded and flashed with the UK R2BA026, so I should get it immediately when it's released in UK, although I live in Austria :D
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
You would need a generic uk fw. Read up on this in the de-branding sections.
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Saying that seus and pc comp have both been updated so its highly possible that the de-branding methods will no longer work.

Seus and pc comp both connect to the internet at start up and update them selves so unless someone finds a new method your probably out of luck....
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
my firmware is R2ba024

my firmware is r2ba024 but i dont know wether it is Uk based or genric..

because i flash my phone 2 times by SE tools II (se tools which is software for sony ericsson) (because i made dead my phone 2 times )
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
There's still the old version of PC companion (you select it to not update its version when you debrand) inside your phone (well atleast in the mini there is). It's inside /data/dop.iso. just unzip the iso and there's a pc companion installer inside (not sure though because I removed it :D)
[XPERIA X10 General] redalHrisi:
Version	Date

2.10.11	2010-11-01

2.10.12	2010-12-06

This is in the web site of EMMA emma(dot)extranet(dot)sonyericsson(dot)com/
[XPERIA X10 General] o0k00l:
That was such a idiotic comment no one is aware of date .. which includes India also

FYI

No MT, No Equilizers, No Flash in camera,no 16m colours,no in call voice increased ..............

Included

720 HD recording,2.1 version,live wallpaper.,New widgets,Support to many Appz ..........

And in between i am an Indian ... Use Search option before posting.

:mad:
[XPERIA X10 General] DaHu4wA:
BUT: as soon as you want to reflash your phone you have to connect to the internet and it's updating :D
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
here people dont know what is android and about android 2.1..

people dont care about the update..they just wana use mobile phone only...
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
The best way of checking this is to access the service menu.

From the standard lock screen, the arc one pre built into the phone you need to:

1 make the screen be lighted up

2 press, menu back back menu back menu menu back

You should then be presented with a hidden menu and you can check your phones fw from there
[XPERIA X10 General] yahiatnt:
Does this means my X10i is having generic UK firmware or not

Hi All,

When I view my Service info->Model info on my XPERIA it shows the following:

Model: X10i

Country: Generic Global

Brand: Generic

Does this means I am having the generic UK firmware or what?

Thanks,:confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
great

according to site ..we will get update on 1 November ? ?
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
It does? Oh that sucks. I thought you can only check it for update every week or month if you want. And it won't update its version if you don't want it to.

Sorry for lack of info. I'm not monitoring the version of PC companion and SEUS (the one I have at home is an old version. Will try flashing when I get home to see if it updates the PC companion as well. My phone is behaving weirdly for some unknown reason over the weekends so I need reflashing anyway) :D
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
It's only an update for EMMA, not the x10 family
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
This means you have generic global fw as it tells you
[XPERIA X10 General] nipun123:
thats generic global firmware....but as far as i know you should get update with the uk one :)
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
nothing happen

nothing happen ..i try it that menu back back menu back back menu...

there is service menu
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
That key sequence was wrong.. To access the service menu it's...

Menu back back menu

back menu menu back

You do it from the lock screen -visible

Edit.. Sorry you already said that!
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
done

it shows me hong kong.....
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
so need to flash it with Uk version

....so i need to flash again to uk...

tell me which is best UK version 024 or 026 or any letest version .
[XPERIA X10 General] ronniecross:
I'm slightly confused as to what Generic Global is, as I thought the firmware structure beyond the internal testing FWs, so for the general public, began at a regional level for unbranded devices (i.e. Generic UK) and then on a second level filtered down to operator (i.e. O2-UK).

So where does Generic Global stand, im slightly unsure of this?

p.s. my phone says Generic Global, even though when I debranded my phone I debranded with a Generic UK file :S
[XPERIA X10 General] djkidy123:
http://gadgets.apnafundaz.com/2010/10/android-2-1-eclair-on-xperia-x10-firmware-update-on-emma-seus-download-imminent/
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Please explain abit more.

It should come up with the service menu and give you 3 different sections to go into giving you all the details of your fw
[XPERIA X10 General] DaHu4wA:
What's that? My firefox always give me a Content-Encoding-Error
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
You want 026 this is the most recent and generic would be even better
[XPERIA X10 General] ggpiucco:
I believe the Customized ones are customized for each Country, while the Generic Global is the "core" for those, "clean", without any region specific code.
[XPERIA X10 General] nipun123:
international warrenty?
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
my country is hong kong

yaa i check my country ..

i went to service menu model info than it show me

model : x10i

country : hong kong

brand : customized

......................................................
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Actually that report came from this very thread if you read a few thousand pages back :D

IT's not fake BTW he posted a lot of screenshots a few hundred pages back.

He's the one with jedi-like access to EMMA. What we have is just a storm-trooper-like access :D
[XPERIA X10 General] djkidy123:
Sorry for link

Whoo has EMMA can provide update??!
[XPERIA X10 General] The Gingerbread Man:
Ok so that means your handset is unbranded but a hong kong fw.

You could try flashing to a uk generic fw but with the seus and pc comp updates this might not be possible with the current methods.

Its only a rumour uk is to get it first, noone knows yet.....
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
Nope, EMMA is a software a bit higher level than SEUS (sorry, please try googling about it as I don't have much time finding it myself because I'm at the office).

It needs a username and password to get access.

Different access have different limitations (I don't know about the terms but basically, the lowest is only the same as SEUS while a higher level access allows you to flash to unreleased FW)

Usually, SE employees have higher EMMA access.

There is a username and password for a lower access to EMMA.

But as consideration to others I would suggest you find it yourself in this thread :D
[XPERIA X10 General] swapniladsure:
thanks for help

thanks for help...

i will search Uk firmware of 026 in my SE tools...

if i found in SE tools than i will flash it by using SE tools software..because Se tools is reliable software...and i can recover dead handset by using se tools
[XPERIA X10 General] djkidy123:
This is on EMMA
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
luckyyyyyy :d