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[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
this is a thread to help old and new users tweak and mod their phones and other advanced stuff

trying to put all the knowledgeable stuff in to one easy thread and it will be dev related

im just started this thread im not done i have lots to do here

my in box is getting a little crazy

this should benefit all and provides basic dev techniques and instruction

this is the beginning stages

plus should reduce the number of faqs for everyone

less fights

less arguments

and less captainrtek (but thats not a bad thing) ;)
[Droid Eris Android Development] Captainkrtek:
Haha gotcha, and thanks :o
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Thanks in advance, DS. :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Looking forward to working together with everyone learning along the way.

Will be post new batt tweak setting in the morn keep an eye out

Do not up date to the latest version of batt tweak it doesn't work.
[Droid Eris Android Development] saintdice:
Brilliant.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Lol I haz cheez burger
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
hey man are you ready

im going to post in the third POST what i have written down so far

but its NOT complete yet....so take a gander :p
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
ok, i did all the setting tweaks that you recommend. do i have to input them every time i reboot? i dont see a setting that restores my previous settings.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Cmotion:
Hey DS,

Great idea to help newbs like me! So after reading your first two posts I looked where my apps are, and every one of them seems to be in system/app... I checked in data/ and can't see anything in there (unless it's sdcard/data, in which case I have folders for Beautiful Widgets and Titanium). I'm using the EStrongs FE, although I don't think that would make a difference. Also, couldn't find any of the duplicate apps you were talking about either (I only have com.google.android.apps.maps.apk, for example). I'm on xtrROM 4.6 and used Titanium Backup to restore my apps.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
ok cool. i hope this works. been without using my phone for too long! im at 48 hours with 22%. need it to drain all the way so i can charge my phone and see if this whole thing works as well as everyone says it does!

p.s. im missing phone calls sometimes. i will feel my phone vibrate, but it's only to tell me i got a voicemail. any quick fixes for that?
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
yea get google voice

i hardly missed my phone

charge depends on use my friend
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
ive got google voice, but i think i'd prefer not missing the calls at all.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jenkies:
I have the superpowers app installed and have it setup. It seems to be a pretty handy tool. My questions for today are simple novice quustions. Should i use a task killer/manager and is there a difference? Do I need auto killer and set CPU? I've never really asked, I've just always had these apps and honestly don't know what they do or why I need them. If I need to be redirected its ok, I don't keep my feelings on my nose.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Cam you take calls on your pc
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Do not use a task killer, get rid of set cpu, set autokiller to strict or optimum, and if you want better battery life check out collins ph batt. tweak
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
im sure i can, just not while im away from it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Stonent:
*SetCPU is not necessary with Colin_Ph. They will fight each other for control of the CPU governor.
[Droid Eris Android Development] jenkies:
Done. Thanks. Still a lil curiosity as to why so many seem to use these other apps. That's the only reason I ever did. Either way whatever they did, now that they're gone everything seems a lil bit smoother. This really is a great thread. Much oblige to you DS.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Those were the dark times

The days of setup and taskillers are no more.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
I still lol my a$$ off to this post
[Droid Eris Android Development] saintdice:
Question...is it ok to remove system apps like camera and sms is you use a market app instead?
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
I'm assuming you have replacement apps for these but yes you can that's the beauty of being rooted.

You can switch most apks for better ones and remove the old one. Like the phone was designed exactly for you.

Don't like stock browser....pull it out and use dolphin instead or opera your choice.

But at the same time careful what you do remove because it may break other things

Enjoy
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Me too!!! ROFL!
[Droid Eris Android Development] saintdice:
What about Dialer One from the market replacing the phone apk?

I guess what I was wondering is if some of those stock system apps were actually needed to perform the task itself.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
HELL no

U cannot remove dialer
[Droid Eris Android Development] saintdice:
That's what I thought, but mms/sms and camera are all good,eh? Didn't someone mention something about a cyanogen wiki that listed files that were removable? I'll have to search around for that.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
there are a couple place ill take a look a round too.:p
[Droid Eris Android Development] sticktodrum:
Glad to know I made ya smile! *awkward*

With the extra battery time, it's the least I could do. You know, an odd thing I've been experiencing with the camera in 37, is it will sometimes replicate the same issues from before ripping out the original apk and replacing, even after having done so.

Clearing the app's data will always set it back to working properly. I wonder what is causing this...
[Droid Eris Android Development] dstroo2012:
I once tryed deleting messages and replaced it with handcent aparently that doesnt work ha but if you find a way let a brother know! Just google cyanogen barebones that will help you decide whats somewhat safe to remove
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
its a kernel issue but as you can tell lately the kernels are getting better and better.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
yea i think your right what i do is i freeze messages with Titanuim Back up paid version.....i use google voice to text and i dont really mms.

so yea you got to make the apps work for ya
[Droid Eris Android Development] saintdice:
Thanks, mate.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
That and (at least for kaos froyo, I've never consistently used another rom) setcpu affects battery life and stability poorly regardless of your settings.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
so, after about 55 hours my phone finally died. draining phase complete?

i tried checking how much battery i had left right before it happened and my phone was at a CRAWL! i mean, it had NEVER run that SLOW. not even when i was on stock 1.5 or 2.2. i hope it was just a fluke thing and it will be ok after it charges.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Pull you battery stick it back in, if it can boot back up, let it drain until it dies, then repeat, until the phone will absolutely not boot. You want 0 to = 0
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
yea, i did that. a couple times. the phone was so slow that even pressing the call end button wouldnt turn off the screen. did a couple battery pulls, didnt boot up. phone is currently charging!
[Droid Eris Android Development] crstamps2:
what about apps2sd

Hi DS,

First time poster. Love your work. Big kaos/ds combo fan.

I have a question. If we are moving apps to the system folder doesn't this defeat the purpose of froyos ability to move to sd. I mean, isn't the point of being able to move the apps to sd to take away from system resources?
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
now dont go filling up that system folder up with junk like i know half of you are doing.

you just want to put IMPORTANT or apps you need to survive a data wipe like titanium backup.

well moving apps to the sd is really because users want more memory for apps

i use apps to sd for like random use apps (like lite games, myverizon, or apps you rarely use but need) stuff like that.

when you make more room more memory it helps with system resources.

hope that helped
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
maybe your phone is busted that doesnt really happen to me like that

anyway hope you read up in the post .
[Droid Eris Android Development] crstamps2:
will flashing kaosfroyo v38 mess up everything we have done

will kaosfroyo mess anything we have moved or done (ie. batt tweak, app moving, launcher changing) up?
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
you mean flashing a new Rom

Because it sure will

Hope you have titanium backup because it will install all the apps you had in system back in system
[Droid Eris Android Development] crstamps2:
I do. I have all the goodie apps.:) Thanks again for what you do
[Droid Eris Android Development] demmo86rt:
I did that and it seemed to work fine until my wife tried to send me a picture. Haven't taken the time yet to really research if KaosFroyo is the issue or if it was deleting the stock app that gave me the problems. I don't use MMS very much so I don't know exactly when it started, but I can tell you that SMS works fine.
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
It will? I knew it had the option for Froyo to install back where it backed the apps from, but I wasn't sure if that included the System apps. Sweet!
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Yes its a new feature

In settings check force install to same location.... then do a back up. You can also batch unistall system apps now

Tb is just sick :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] TheDoctor1177:
Quick question, so in the batter drain phase...Can you not like flash a font in recovery or flash a metamorph theme? Like the phone cannot turn off until its dead?
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Correct do not reboot the phone until it dies on its own
[Droid Eris Android Development] antshan4:
Hi everyone, i keep getting the message, sorry the process com.htc.bgp has stopped unexpectantly. Can not figure out what this is.it started after i moved a couple of apps.

I am running xtrsense 4.6 with cfs v6 kernel
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
There's a lot of stuff you can find through Google about FCs of "com.htc.bgp", but first of all, have you tried wiping Dalvik cache and rebooting?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Shakes The AssClown:
Not really a heavy user..that's what is strange...I only go on the internet a few times a day..check email...and do some texting...is that heavy? I didn't skim over...I did everything step by step...still notice about the same amount of drain with or without it.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
do a batt-diag

and whats your 192 read out
[Droid Eris Android Development] eldiente:
TB after new ROM flash

After wiping and flashing a new ROM, TB, which I moved to the system folder, won't re-install/open. Even after grabbing another copy from the Market. It says it's installed, I can find the .APK on the phone but I cannot open it nor is it in the app drawer. What am I doing wrong?
[Droid Eris Android Development] gemro311:
Did u do a reboot into recovery and do a dalvick cache wipe. Also u mentioned that u put it in the system folder ..it should be system /app folder.

Sent by Froyo Eris for a Dolphin Phanatic
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Are you using root explorer? If so try finding the apk and install through root explorer, if that dosent work, someone will have to verify this for me because I don't use tib but I believe tib saves your back up to the sd card so if you delete the original apk, install a fresh tib apk from the market, it should be able to find your original back up and restore it, beyond that you could try installing with adb
[Droid Eris Android Development] eldiente:
Yes, System App folder. So, perhaps I'm just doing this wrong. I was under the assumption that for a ROM switch we were to do a full wipe (data/factory reset & dalvik).

Be kind, I'm a junior member.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Place whatever apk u want in the system/app folder no install

Immediately wipe Dalvik

And reboot

I don't get why so many people are moving stuff and not rebooting immediately.
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Yes that is true, I've tested that, not doing a full wipe and switching roms can land you in a boot loop, were you able to locate the apk in system/app?
[Droid Eris Android Development] eldiente:
Yes and it installed, but I wasn't given the option to open it (open box not highlighted) nor did it drop into my app drawer. It runs fine in v37 and I've done all the steps listed earlier in the forum regarding tweaks and what not but now I can't flash something new with completely starting over. Stumped.
[Droid Eris Android Development] eldiente:
I've re-booted many times. No dice.

It wasn't there after flashing a new Rom so I had to pluck everything from the Market. It stated it installed TB but the file program would not and still is not loading. I'm back using Kaosv37
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
i think this tweak is slowing my phone down to the point where it wont ring anymore while its got the screen off. i miss calls like crazy. i get the google voice mail reminder but my phone wouldnt ring. i want to actually use my phone and have the ability to answer calls when people call. anyone else have this issue or a fix for it?
[Droid Eris Android Development] gemro311:
No ..sorry we are not having this issue.

I will admit to trying and tweak a little too much and got in trouble. Just did a total wipe, wipe, wipe and reflashed my Tazz 14 Rom.

Now after about 12 hours I am very comfortable with the set up.

I have moved the following from Data/App to System/App

Dolphin Browser- Deleted the Stock Browser

Seesmic Twitter App- Deleted what came with the Rom

Handscent MMS- deleted the stock MMS

Launcher Pro

Root Explorer

Titaniim Backup

Pandora

Sirius XM

Also moved the newest Google maps and deleted the Maps already there.

At the beginning of the thread the OP gave excellent directions on his recommendations .

Need to always always reboot into recovery and wipe the Dalvick Cache after any changes .

I am not running any App killer or Battery Tweaks either
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Are you overclocking? Do you have setcpu and the battery tweak running?
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
My phone right now is performing extremely fast and stable... no slow downs what so ever.

You need to clear some stuff or make some tweaks bro that's probably why your not see any battery performance either.

Sorry its not working out for you but as u can tell by everyone else's post it does work.

Keep trying

Keep reading hopefully you will figure it out
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Very nice set up by the way
[Droid Eris Android Development] SicNside:
Why do some people feel its necessary to wipe like 3-5 times before flashing? Im not knocking on anyone I just want to know lol
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Just to be on the safe side my friend
[Droid Eris Android Development] SicNside:
Ahh ok gotcha . Was just wondering if it was kind of like those old women at Vegas with troll dolls and tapping there cups and troll heads before pulling the lever
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
LOL yea something like that. :p
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
Ohh and I wanted to ask also, did you wipe dalvic cashe? You also might want to try ....Egh I cant remember the exact name of the option, its a few pages back, its in recovery, something like fix broken app ext, I was having problems lp and beatiful widgets after the move to sys/app ran the fix in amon ra, and now I can't crash lp if I tried, and beautiful widgets only faulters with the back button to kill process, I think im going to browse the code for that action to extend the time it takes to kill the process
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
i think im actually under clocking it a bit. when i had set cpu it was set at 640. i think that's where i have it now. and i uninstalled set cpu before i did the battery tweak.

by "clear some stuff out" you mean delete some apps ? ive pretty much followed your instructions as they're written, battery seems to have gotten better. but if i keep missing calls, i think i might have to go back to setcpu :(
[Droid Eris Android Development] Bimmer323:
I'm curious to see if anyone else has the situation I have with battery tweak, I've installed the tweak three times and get the same result.

I'm running CELB 3.0 currently, but had the same thing happen on Tazz's rom and KFC. I do not use autokiller and this is without SetCPU installed. I use System Panel to more or less monitor things, and sometimes close apps. System Panel has a CPU clock monitor and what I noticed is that with my min. clocking set to 245, my phone never did well at 19,200 or 162, is that the CPU jumps around quite a bit and never really settles down.

If I uninstall Battery Tweak, and install SetCPU, using the same clock speed (245 - 710) my CPU will settle down to 245 and "rest" there until I touch the screen.

This only happens if I tweak SetCPU to use:

Sampling Rate: 2000000

Up Threshhold: 60%

Ignore 0

PowerSave 0

If I leave Sampling rate and Up Threshhold at "stock", 20000 and 80%, my CPU will jump around just like it does with Batt_Tweak.

As I write this......I wonder if the sampling rate gives a false reading.....but I guess that isn't true since I'm using a different app for the monitoring.

I may give it one more try this afternoon or evening to see, but wanted to see if anyone was willing to install System Panel and check the CPU clock to see what there's is doing and report back.

Thanks for this thread, I moved some apps from Data to System and that's worth this entire thread just for that.

My battery life is fine with me, I can get two/three days with moderate use out of one charge so I have no complaints. But, if it can be made better.........:D
[Droid Eris Android Development] rigbyrobot:
If your using kaos.froyo, setcpu dose not work well with it, id suggest doing a dalvic wipe and reflashing the rom, you'll have to reclean up datta/app sys/app but it will clean out setcpu 's sticky bits. Then try the default 710 setting in collins battery tweak, if that works out for you, use d's settings but bump up your lowest clock speed to 245, you may loose a few hours of battery life but not much, most custom roms are clocked at and built for 710 because that's the sweet spot for our phone in terms of battery life and performance
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
what radio do you guys runing? im going to reflash the rom later tonight just to see if it'll make a difference.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
i just switched to 3.10
[Droid Eris Android Development] demmo86rt:
If I change clock speeds with the batt tweak should I redo the calibration process? I think I clocked too high. When the phone is off, it's fine but as soon as I go to use it, the battery drains super fast.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Thats how battery tweak works
[Droid Eris Android Development] demmo86rt:
I realize that, but I have it set a couple notches above the standard 710 so I wanted to try it out dropped back down. But, if I have to do the re-cal process again, I might just wait til kaos has time to get v38 on the table.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Batt tweak is most beneficial when its idle

About the same drain under load but little less thanks to the tweak

It tries to under clock
[Droid Eris Android Development] demmo86rt:
Got it. I'll give it a few days and see how she settles in.
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Radio version 3.10??? For the Eris? Or did it come from another Android device and works on the Eris?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Slugdoc:
I just read through all 25 pages. (Don't want no Kracken to get me).

My question: It seems like you all lost your wifi when you tried the new batt tweak. I just installed the batt tweak v2.2 from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=784089 (The collin.ph thread) and my wifi seems to work just fine.

ROM KaosFroyo 35-1 (waiting for 38)

Kernal CFS v6

?
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Get the f outta here really?
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
I have my batt tweak set to 806 max and there are times I heavily use my phone but I'm still getting very nice battery time. No concrete numbers for you at this time except that I've been unplugged for 14.5 hours and I've been on my Bluetooth for quite a while now (on the phone as I type) and my custom battery indicator looks like it's at about 45% left.

Personally, this is WAY better than I used to get before I calibrated, but also admittedly I didn't get to leave my phone alone as much as I would've liked during the calibration, so I might be able to calibrate it better sometime.
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
It's not the batt tweak which disables WIFI AFAIK, it's using, for instance, the boot.img from CELBFroyo with KaosFroyo (so that the batt tweak auto starts when the phone reboots). That was my impression, anyway. I am using the latest batt tweak plus the CELBFroyo boot.img and just "suffering" without WIFI for now. :D
[Droid Eris Android Development] Slugdoc:
Sarcasm?

No really.

I didn't see anything in this thread about wi-fi working with the lastest collin.ph tweak, so hence my post. Maybe it works with KF 35, but not 37?

Or does everyone's wifi work now with the latest batt tweak.

Oh, never mind. My wifi works, so whatever.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
Hey guys in batt tweak settings enable cfs tweak and tell me what you think. Feels smoother humph!
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
yea im going to try a cal with airplane mode on see what hapens :rolleyes:

im also liking the other free terminal app in the market

you can type better
[Droid Eris Android Development] demmo86rt:
Good luck getting the battery to die. And yeah, this is probably the best battery life I have ever gotten, it just drives me nuts to watch my battery meter drop before my eyes while I'm using my phone.
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
@DS36: bump? :-)
[Droid Eris Android Development] roirraW "edor" ehT:
I've been using it for a couple days. Seems good! I was going to look in the batt tweak thread to see if there's specifics about what that setting does.
[Droid Eris Android Development] eklipze:
I always make sure to turn it on. I love the performance boosts from the batt tweak. Disk boost is important too.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
I'm using the heroc 2.03 radio

oops meant to say 2.03

Used to have the latest 4. 27

I just recently switched thinking of switching back to 4.27 had the same issues with 2.03

i attached it
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
yea i want to try disk boost too

i read a little on it
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
what issue is that? the "dead call" issue? im thinking of switching to see if i will stop missing calls during the day when my screen is off.
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
A minor 3g issue it was never fixed

You should update your prl for your problem.
[Droid Eris Android Development] Irieone:
Hey, what the hell is going in this thread DS?! hahahaha

Disk boost rawks dude.......ENGAGE!
[Droid Eris Android Development] DS36:
what do you mean whats going on....

actually i just realized its been enable the whole time ?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Irieone:
that was my way of saying hi

and disk boost is enabled by default unless u disabled it....
[Droid Eris Android Development] rick311:
that's done by doing the *228 option 2 thing, right? dont that many times. still does it on occasion.
[Droid Eris Android Development] dstroo2012:
Hey ds u update beatiful widgets yet? I got it in system/app and it wont update keeps failing to download do you have to move it back to data/app to update it?