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[EVO 4G General] Explainthefee:
I think that the analogy here is describing HD as 4G service, which is obviously flawed. Sprint has stated that this is NOT for 4G. Alas, when we're comparing anything related to the Premium Data fee, we must ask - what is it that they say it's for?

I've said it before, but they state that it's for the following:

Hardware, Software, More Data Usage, and Faster Speeds

Hardware - You purchase the phone outright for either $200 (EVO) or $249 (EPIC). You bought the phone to use the phone's hardware features. You choose to pay for a bigger screen or a kickstand or even a higher processor. That's why you paid so much. You only pay $149 for the latest Samsung Transform because it's not as great. Since you pay a different price for the hardware, they cannot charge you more for the SAME hardware and slap a $10 "Premium Data" sticker on it. They used to say it was for video chat capabilities, but that went out the window with their Premium Data-less Sprint Transform.

Software - They've stated to me that depending on what phone you have that you're getting these "Premium" features, such as the ability to stream your movies to your Samsung TV, or even have chat-style messaging. The problem is, these features are not standard on every "Premium Data" required phone.

Faster Speeds - 3.1Mbps is the fastest you can get on a 3G connection. How can you get faster speeds just by using a dual-band 3G/4G phone? It's technically not possible. They've admitted to me that it's the "appearance" of the speeds is faster, but again that's because the processor is faster. You don't get faster speeds, just because you're on a faster phone. The capability of the network is the same, the max is still 3.1Mbps.

More Data - This is something that has been argued in this thread.

1. Video chatting can be done with the Sprint Transform.

2. The Epic has a 5MP camera. The same one that the Hero has.

3. More application downloads - Limited to the same 3G network that a Hero has. If the Hero is downloading at the maximum 3.1Mbps, then an EVO or Epic that is placed right next to it will still have the same 3.1Mbps maximum speed.

4. Ability to connect to 4G - The fee is not for 4G.

5. Hotspot - The $10 Premium Data fee is not a pre-req for the $30 Hotspot add-on.

Regarding your comment on the developing and implementation of the technology:

This was a comment on my site by Airen (Guest contributor), which I feel hits the nail on the head.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
You still have access to the 4G network regardless of whether or not it's in your area. So that argument is still not solid. It's like deciding to get a Sprint phone in the middle of nowhere (like the north pole) and expecting service -- you get what you pay for.

Edit: All you got to is pretend that the EVO and Epic don't exist, problem solved. If I was a Sprint rep and you called me, that's exactly what I would say.
[EVO 4G General] Explainthefee:
Personally, I don't feel that I'm wasting my time, I honestly don't. I've learned a lot about creating websites and social media and most importantly I've discovered a love for writing. As I said before, I have a newborn and I'm planning on using what I've learned from this website to help establish other sites for my own personal means.

Regarding the hours spent - haha, TOO many! Before my son was here, I had a lot of free time. I was able to stay up on the weekends trying to write articles and keep up with the site. Now? I'm going to bed early and trying to pencil in time to write an article for the site between bottle feedings and diaper changes.

Is the site going to change Sprint's mind and get them to abolish the fee? Probably not, but it might change some potential customer's minds. If you read up on the site's past articles, you can see that I've actually had Sprint correct mis-information on Sprint.com - read here.

I'm just trying to bring attention to this and honestly I've received tons of great feedback from people.
[EVO 4G General] fachadick:
Again though, why complain simply about the marketing message behind the fee? Why does it matter what they say the reason for the fee is? My plan comes with unlimited text messages, but I never use that functionality. Should I be upset that I have to pay extra for a feature that I never use? For that matter, why not be upset that sprint doesn't offer a plan with just unlimited data for those who never use voice? Like I said before, a fee is a fee is a fee. What does it matter what reason they give for it? Would you be happier if they just bumped up all of the data plans by $10?
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Not yet. I have tried the available options. None work so far.

You know, that is a good point. Whatever your reasons, you are enjoying yourself and learning. We may disagree, but I can respect that you in fact are getting something out of this crusade.

Enjoy your new son, then go kill more windmills ;)
[EVO 4G General] whatsitsnamenow:
Would it make a difference if Hesse told you that the $10 fee is to pay for his sick mother's operation or maybe to pay for a disneyland on his back yard, or to help end world hunger? NO. It doesn't matter what they (Sprint or Hesse) is getting out of it. Only thing that matters is what you get out of it. Are you going to pay an extra $10 a month to have the latest and greatest toy with 4G capability? Yes, no, maybe.

Am I willing to pay extra $10 a month to get a wildly popular device with 4g. Yes

Am I willing to pay extra $10 a month to be able to use an Iphone 4 on Sprint. Yes

Am I willing to pay extra $10 a month for a HTC Hero or Samsung Moment with 4G capability. No.

Even if the EVO didn't have 4G people would still buy it. Why. Because it is a desireable device.
[EVO 4G General] tjleeland:
Wow. I can't believe people are still complaining about this. AT&T did it with the iPhone, Verizon added $10 to their smart phone line, and now Sprint is doing it. Are they all 4G taxes? I guess not. Obviously there's a cost associated with these kinds of phones. Get over it and stop being a baby.

I'm sorry if owning a smartphone is beyond your reach at this point in time, but I'm sick of hearing about how poor people can't afford an Evo. Just because BMW has a 7-series, it doesn't mean you're entitiled to one at at a price you can manage-- same with smartphones. Grow up and stop hating companies for making products you can't afford. It's not like it's the only phone Sprint has, and it's not like they're forcing you to get one.

When did we become such a nation of losers who think they're entitled to everthing cool that's ever been made? If the $10 that 3 out of the 4 big cell phone companies are charging for smartphones is too much for you to pay, you can't afford one. If you want expensive toys, get an education and get a good-paying job. Until then STFU!

The only redeeming thing about this thread is that it's so poorly rated. At least most of you here have the good sense to understand basic economics.
[EVO 4G General] TWO515TY:
I don't agree with that at all - paying for access to a network that you will never see is foolish - fees should be usage based, not "access" based. What's the point of having access to something that's not in your area? Obviously Sprint has no coverage in the North Pole. If they had a Super Duper 1 GBPS WiMax³ connection available in the North Pole, does that mean they should be able to charge us for "access" to that network even if we're never going to go to the North pole? Wouldn't it make more sense to charge the 4 or 5 people who will actually go to the North Pole and use that network, rather than to charge the majority of people who will never use it?

I know some people might ask, "but what if you travel to a 4G area?"

The answer is requiring a login portal on the phone's browser. For example, if you don't have the Premium Data option on your plan, you would be re-directed to a Sprint log-in portal that requires you to put in your account username and password to enable the addition of the Premium Data option to your plan. If you agree to the terms and conditions of the PD option, put in your uname/password to enable it and access the 4G network. If not, exit the browser, turn off your 4G, and resume regular 3G coverage. They could definitely have implemented this if they wanted, but they would rather charge everyone the fee.

"All you got to is pretend that the EVO and Epic don't exist, problem solved"

If you told that to a customer, you'd probably get a rude reply and probably some complaints. Telling customers that your products don't exist sounds like very poor customer service. While you're not the one who came up with Premium Data, it would be your job to be able to explain to a customer what it's for without sounding like a sarcastic or apathetic.
[EVO 4G General] evohack99:
Yeah, my buddy pays $115 to 125 a month with verizon, he is getting raped , I told him to come to sprint. He has the incredible, he isn't computer savy, I laughed when he said"its higher cause of the kay beeees I use" "so I'll use less"

Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Only paying for services you have access to IS my point. If you can't get access to wimax in your area why get a EVO and then complain about a fee you knew wouldnt serve you after? Makes no damn sense and deserves a stupid, sarcastic reply.

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[EVO 4G General] firemedic1343:
While I'm not a CSR, I do know that in my small business that I own, I create prices, and if someone doesn't like it, they can keep walking. I don't force anyone to do business with me. Sprint didn't force you to do anything, I hope you aren't calling in and harassing the CSR's.
[EVO 4G General] Explainthefee:
That's exactly it. They're saying it's NOT for 4G. They're stating that the fee is for hardware, software, faster speeds, unlimited data. My entire argument is the fact that these are not valid reasons.

Read my post in this thread or my site and you'll see why.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
ATT and V agree with you. Tiered data is usage based.
[EVO 4G General] evohack99:
So you pay an extra ten bucks for 4g you don't have. Barrow a wireless tether and use the net from your phone for your laptop. That 30 bucks a month take off the extra ten your paying and your actually stealing 20 bucks , .now quit *****in...

Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
[EVO 4G General] tgruendler:
Not valid reasons to charge the $10.00??? Says who?
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
We ALL know it's a 4G fee. I can ask any of the non-techy EVO 4G or Epic 4G owning friends what the $10 fee is and they'll all say 4G. Sprint doesn't say it is so non-4G area users will still be more likely to buy the latest and greatest anyway. You can argue about that being sneaky, but come on, we all know what this is about.

Until you can point out a non-4G premium fee needing phone, for all intents and purposes, this was and is a 4G fee. Once you realize this, it's easy to point out that all you are doing is waahhing yourself all over the internet. Hell, you don't even need this to be a 4G fee for that to be true. It's not a GOD given right to own a EVO or Epic, so move on, don't pay the fee and get any other phone on Sprint or on any other carrier.
[EVO 4G General] Explainthefee:
If you're confident that the fee is for 4G, then charging the fee to all customers, regardless if they are in the 4G area, is unethical and it needs to be addressed.

My point? I'm addressing it.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Would you prefer they only allowed the phone to be sold in 4G markets?
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
idiots and whiners will never be happy

Sent from the island my Evo built
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
It's not unethical because you chose this phone and the fees associated with it, it was not forced upon you.

Sent from the island my Evo built
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
He doesn't realize that he has a choice.

A: You're in a WiMax area and it's totally worth getting a 4G phone. So you get one.

B: You're not in a WiMax area and it's not worth paying the fee for only getting WiMax service when you travel. So you don't get a 4G phone.

C: You're not in a WiMax area, you like the phone, and accept that 1) you'll have to wait for the service to roll out to your area, 2) just accept that you'll only get service when traveling to a 4G area.

Either way, you get 30 days to take it back.

You're argument is really just a big cry fest.
[EVO 4G General] rockethot:
It's only $10 a month, suck it up. If you don't want to pay the extra $10 then don't get an Epic or an Evo. You knew you'd be paying the extra $10 when you got it.
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
This don't, I Understand thee argument since your not being tricked in any way.its very clear what your paying for when you sign the contract....
[EVO 4G General] Wallabe:
I'm content in paying $10 a month. I feel like most of you guys, it's like watching tv. If you are not happy change the channel. Go over to ATT, Verizon, or even better T-Mobile. See how they treat you about the phone's themselves.
[EVO 4G General] evohack99:
Shrooms nohard feeling s but just cause someone chose something doesn't make it unethical. Not telling people before they sign the contact that they don't have 4g in their area could be considered that though, but hey, the average person blows atleast ten bucks a month on something, I really think of it as a ten bucks a month fee for having the best phone out there.

Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
It is your responsibility as a consumer to know what you are purchasing. There is a reason there are so many lawsuits in America and it's not because consumers do their research but because they depend on lawyers to do it for them. As much as you want to blame other people for your mistakes, it ultimately falls in your hands. Do your research, ask questions, know what you're buying. (not directed at you personally).

Unfortunately im sure there are plenty of people out there that were not made aware of the $10 fee but that is why these companies have a 30 day rule, so when you get your bill 15 days later, you can either choose to continue with your purchase or return it.

Example: My cable package, I was never told I was under a promotion and every year (for 3 years) my package goes up $10... guess when I found this out? A year down the road. Did I call the company to ask why the bill went up? Yes. Did I fight it? No, because I know that even though I was not made aware of this, the package I had was lower than the standard price, so I bit the bullet and moved on with my life. Complaining over something so petty is ridiculous. I want a service, I live with the fee's associated with it. You can not take a company to court over a "he said/she said or he didn't say/she didn't say". You signed the contract, know what your signing.
[EVO 4G General] Explainthefee:
Fact: Sprint states that this fee is not for 4G.

Fact: Sprint has on their website that Premium Data provides a "wicked fast processor", "Top quality media experience with oversized screen, high resolution video and HD recording" and "high-quality pics".

Fact: Those "features" are also listed on the manufacturer's website, as they use those descriptions for their hardware. HTC EVO / Samsung Epic

Fact: They have not offered any clear and concise explanation to the public in regards to what the "Premium Data" fee is for, besides their website description and what I've stated before (Hardware, Software, Faster Speeds, More Usage).

Fact: The consumer is told that these are the reasons why they must pay $10 a month.

My opinion: Just because a customer is told that they need to pay $10 for "Premium Data" because it offers them a "Data-rich experience" for "data-loving customers" who are "expected to use additional data" with their "far superior hardware", doesn't make it right.

A customer who calls in and is told that this is what the fee is for might simply accept the answer when they end the phone conversation. It still does not make it right, since Sprint was providing inaccurate information.

You cannot charge a customer for "hardware" features every month, when they buy the phone outright.

You cannot charge a customer for "additional data" on an unlimited plan.

You cannot charge a customer for a "data-rich experience" just because you want to. There needs to be a substantial and tangible reasons for this add-on.

You have road-side assistance for $7 a month, you get road-side assistance. For "Premium Data" you pay $10 a month, you get nothing additional for your service.

If you took your phone to a non-Sprint covered area, such as the basement underground fortress under Nevada, where you have zero Sprint coverage, all of your "Premium Data" features WILL work.

If you took your phone and DISCONNECTED from Sprint and you were no longer paying for service nor "Premium Data", those "Premium Data" features WILL work.

Until Sprint comes out and says, "Premium Data is for 4G", then all customers who are paying this fee should be credited back if they are not in a 4G area.
[EVO 4G General] rockethot:
Dude, just suck it up. It's $10 a month for crying out loud. No matter how much you complain and argue, the $10 fee is not going to go away.
[EVO 4G General] lordofokra:
This thread sucks. If you don't like the fee, switch carriers. Simple as that.
[EVO 4G General] tgruendler:
I wanna know how much time/money this "explainthefee" guy has spent on $10.00 a month. And even if he "wins", it will cost Sprint millions of dollars to make changes and they will pass the cost on to its customers so the dip**** will be paying more in the long run anyways. Get over it and quit your crying.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Good things there's a 30 day return period. So... as I said, you have a choice.

This guy can keep pretending that this isn't a 4G fee, meanwhile, just about everyone else will move on knowing exactly what the fee is about.
[EVO 4G General] engagedtosmile:
This is STILL GOING ON?

Wow.....
[EVO 4G General] fachadick:
and probably will, until sprint gets rid of the $10 fee, and just increases the data plans for everyone by $10. I still don't get why people are so upset over a marketing message.
[EVO 4G General] afflaq:
I hope you don't really think that anyone of power at sprint is reading these boards and would ever make a change based on your demands. You're still paying the fee, you're not cancelling your service, thus, there's no incentive for them to change.
[EVO 4G General] backdown:
It's not the reps job to go over every single detail about every single thing about the phone/service. Granted they should do a good amount of it. I worked at Radioshack and people were ignorant, they just wanted a phone. So i would start to tell them about a phone, and they would ignore it. So when i went over plans and told them they had to choose a certain group of plans, they would go off on me because i "didn't tell them" that they had to have the data plan.

My point? People are ignorant and expect you to do everything and anything for them, and they are not willing to do their own research first. You signed a contract that said that there was a 10$/month fee, no mater if you read it or not. You had 30 days to return it, and no one made you get an evo.
[Legend General] smartvinu:
for the past few days in the download folder of sdcard i am getting some junk apk files with the name downloadfile-n.apk ... then n ranges from 1 to 100 and so on ..

The files are actually the apk of the installed apps ....

They keep on increasing ... Is there any way to find which app is creating this files ..

Please help me to sort this out ..
[Legend General] kuklux:
That files is from market
[Legend General] smartvinu:
So i can delete those files ..??
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arffer:
Please ignore
[Epic 4G Android Development] drago009:
Does anybody know why everytime that i try to add a rom it says that the whole could not be verified and it just abort the installation? Thanks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mecca_TA:
Sounds like you aren't in clockwork recovery
[Nexus One General] tamarian:
Someone posted a pic of an Arabic website on what appears to be GoogleTV. http://ardroid.com/2010/10/22/google-tv-arabic-language/

Would any GoogleTV owner care to confirm by comparing browser display of http://www.kooora.com on their Foryo phone vs, GoogleTV. On none Arabized Froyo it will be disjointed letters, still hard to tell by none Arabic readers, but a snapshot will help.
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
I have to say, on my 2.2.1 phone that link looks fine... but as I don't understand even one "letter" of it, I could be very wrong.
[Nexus One General] Kapoue2:
The characters appear but they are not attached, making it really hard to read. Got the same stupid unattached characters on CM6 nightly 216.
[Nexus One General] darkstego:
Confirmed. Arabic works fine with Google TV. Font is there and the letters are all connected.

I totally forgot that my Google TV was gingerbread, and my friend was just asking me about arabic support in gingerbread not 5 minutes ago. So this is very good news.
[Nexus One General] tamarian:
Cool! Does it have a virtual keyboard and is there a setting for Arabic keyboard layout? Is it only supported in the browser, or does it work on all apps, Gmail, Buzz, Twitter, Facebook, etc.
[Nexus One General] wdfowty:
When was it confirmed that Google TV has gingerbread? I don't remember seeing anything like that. But, I could be wrong, feel free to correct me.

And, I don't think the Google TV version of android is anything like what we would see on our N1s...And, again, feel free to correct me if I have my thinking wrong :)
[Nexus One General] diversificationied:
Your right.

Google tv is a modified android version, but not from the gingerbread line.
[Nexus One General] Weazol:
just a note. On google tv, google chrome supports arabic however the system itself does not.

(I can go to arabic.euronews.net and see everything fine. but when i alt tab the page name is displayed in blocks. and if I bookmark it all I see are blocks.)
[Nexus One General] samven582:
Gingerbread will support Arabic
[Nexus One General] Rusty!:
Using the 2.3 emulator, the site (www.kooora.com) renders no differently to 2.2
[Droid Eris Android Development] dev/null/:
*requires gaia manager rc6 or newer

*psfMod is based on the original works of Koush and kakaRoTo

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0.9.6.4
[22/10/2010]
Add Hero support
Add Droid Eris support

0.9.6.2
[20/10/2010]
Updated to PSFreedom v1.1

0.9.6.1
[16/10/2010]
Fixed pl3 to properly work with retail game updates
Retail pkg and update installs added to fw 3.15

0.9.6.0
[14/10/2010]
rebased on clockworkmod recovery v2.5.1.0
updated pl3 with syscall35 support
disc less playing of backups (not hermes)*

0.9.5.4
Game Patch Compatibility/Stability update - Mathieulh (only for fw 3.41)

0.9.5.3
Added patches to fix problems with pads and savegames (only for fw 3.41) - Hermes

0.9.5.2
Testbuild for HTC Incredible (failed)

0.9.5.1
added ability to install demos thought the "Install package files" option on the XMB - waninkoko

0.9.5.0
added Droid support

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[Droid Eris Android Development] mjgdroid:
I LOVE THIS!!! OMG JIZZ in my pants.

doese this have peek and poke?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Chevelle1768:
w00t! Thanks.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoban_eris:
Has anyone tried this?

I assume the same bricking exists with this recovery since it's based on clockworkmod recovery right?
[Droid Eris Android Development] Chevelle1768:
I have it on my phone. And it works.

As far as bricking, I have not had any issues with clockworkmod. And I have been using it for months.
[Droid Eris Android Development] hoban_eris:
Little help please

ok, so I installed psfmod. I verified that it's installed correctly. Now, how is Gaia manager used? I downloaded the zip file but there are no instructions. Can someone shed some light on what to do after flashing the psfmod recovery?

Thanks! (yeah, I'm a newb to PS3 jailbreaking)