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[XPERIA X10 General] njfpolyr6:
i m hoping other manufacturers doing the same thing like nokia does right now to put all 5 bands UMTS into their future phones so there is no region restricted....
[XPERIA X10 General] Hypercore:
Alright, that's good news. But, now one more question.

Since I'm flashing from x10a to x10i, I've heard that SEUS will not be able to update my phone.

So if I flashed my Rogers x10a to an x10i Generic UK Firmware, will I get a notification when the 2.1 update is released on my phone? Also, will I still be able to update VIA SEUS to 2.1 or has that not been fixed yet?
[XPERIA X10 General] wiedz:
just check SEUS.. no update yet

well, i'll just kill my time by working :P
[XPERIA X10 General] sarfaraaz:
yawn, i stopped waiting.. now, back to studying peacefully. we'll get the update on christmas day
[XPERIA X10 General] saketh321:
wtf is up with the tags in this thread lol... emma watson really?

2.1, android, eclair, emma, ericsson, fail, go habs go!!!, oh snap, seus, sharathx10, sony, sonyericsson, too late, update, x10a, x10i, xperia

i was thinking how about all of us send an email to google complaining about the update and how this is open source but Sony has it locked and is depriving us of updates to the phone etc. I wonder how that will go.
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
You will be able to update Your fone, but only to x10i version ...... If You want come back to x10a with future updates for x10a then You will have to flash x10a FW with for example flash tool
[XPERIA X10 General] lildic:
still no 2.1 update via SEUS
[XPERIA X10 General] devilsden:
I guess will have to wait till friday or may be 31th. No more F5 at work
[XPERIA X10 General] totalperception:
No Sony is releasing by kit aka your manufcture date!
[XPERIA X10 General] violentgoomba:
Then that's just asking for it. I know I'd be extremely pissed if they waited that long to release it.

I mean... i know how SE has made so many improvements to 1.6 and I think that for a 1.6 device SE has done a pretty badass job, BUT, an update needs to be rolled out to fix certain issues and limitations.

This could be an awesome phone with the right software.
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Just debrand ur phone.... the hardware will be the same and i think the radio will be too
[XPERIA X10 General] Zer0_:
This thread is BEAST!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
That's why we are trying to break bootloader .... just to make this phone awesome ... becouse this phone is awesome, but SE block this phone with They software .... THAT IS MADNESS :D

3:44 AM here so sorry for my EN ;D .... :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Radys1:
No Shukla, your signature its beast :)
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
No His signature is my wife :P
[XPERIA X10 General] totalperception:
Debrand all you want. 2.1 is released by kit (manufacture date). This is something deeply hidden that you can't edit. Having another regions firmware won't help you. If you want 2.1 you'll have to wait for the version designed for your sony direct or carrier branded device. Having 2.1 UK debranded on your Rogers or AT&T device won't get you there quicker unless the devs can truly decrypt Sonys new security. XDA should have kept all development private because SE watched and defeated your every effort. You should have realized they'd do this considering they shot down the Nexus One opp from Google.
[XPERIA X10 General] lildic:
damn..................... no updates yet
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
Lol When ?? We want root ... we have root ... We want to open bootloader ... We will open .... :D matter of time ... They (SE) dont have any power to stop US :D
[XPERIA X10 General] totalperception:
They will hot fix hacks in a heartbeat for v2+
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
So why They cant stop Us from gain root acces
[XPERIA X10 General] bongd:
Jesus still nothing, eh? Been glued to the damn forums lol.. try leaving every few hours but I keep getting sucked back in.
[XPERIA X10 General] kafej666:
Good night Dudes ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] elvish:
MADNESS? madness

THIS IS SONY!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] Rockjock007:
I just met up with a gal pal of mine that works at Rogers. She has said Rogers has the update and are in the process of branding it. That task is not going well.. but she thinks it will be out by Friday. Not the branded version but the generic one.

She looks sorta like that gal the bloke has in his sig.. changing outfits real fast.. so maybe she is right.. maybe not.. but friday nite she and I will found out together!
[XPERIA X10 General] LiLAsN:
Evil Doers!

totalperception is spot on!

If you guys don't know, Sony is infamous for their efforts against hacking on their devices. This includes the recent news of the PS3 finally 'hacked'. Sony does check the internet as immediately when news got out that a person in Australia has a stolen software code that turns the PS3 into a Developer PS3 and allows the user to install games in their PS3, Sony immediately went to Australia's court and issued a Cease & Decease for all the USB drives with the stolen code even though Australia has a law that allows hacking of products owned by the consumers. Followed by that, a firmware update was released to prevent such hacks ever again!

So yes. Sony Ericsson will clamp down any futile attempts of the XDA Dev if word ever reaches them. So be careful of what you post because they are watching you. :cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Good news mate..... thanks for the intel
[XPERIA X10 General] robbyf66:
If they are reading that, then they should clearly respond to an updated firmware already. AND open it up
[XPERIA X10 General] brat81:
Guys bare in mind that it's what 3am in London atm (assuming thats where the update will be coming from)

So give it a few hours the guys are prob sleeping let them wake-up first :)
[XPERIA X10 General] totalperception:
That they can't but end users will accept fix or 2.1 s they get it and lose this option. Best to wait for devs to crack leaked firmware if you want dev capabilities on your device.
[XPERIA X10 General] Radys1:
lol the guys sleeping last 7 months ....
[XPERIA X10 General] wiedz:
meh.. still nothing. still working.

*this thread is fun :D :D :D
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
a guy? that sounds more like a bear xD
[XPERIA X10 General] LiLAsN:
LoL! I am referring to more of what the XDA Developers are doing and say in this forum.

So for example, if they post in the public forum that they have successfully jailbroken the X10 and can install their own custom OS, you can be sure that a new firmware update will be rushed out by SE to the public quickly to stop it from happening.
[XPERIA X10 General] xarchitect:
Hey guys !!! out of curiousity !!!

wats Global generic??:confused:

Mine goes like this

Model: X10i

Country: Generic GLOBAL

Brand: Generic

Phone Software Version: 1227-4612_R2BA026 GENERIC
[XPERIA X10 General] jase81:
well sed pollpix lol :D
[XPERIA X10 General] xarchitect:
PRESS POWER to lock the phone

PRESS HOME,

THEN PRESS MENU,BACK,MENU,BACK,BACK,MENU,BACK,MENU,MENU,BACK.

TADA!!!:D
[XPERIA X10 General] Zenghelis:
In the lock screen press: Menu Back Back Menu Back Menu Menu Back
[XPERIA X10 General] Vilam:
Screenshot from the market, need root

Zenghelis ==> you mess a menu at the end ;-)
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
they don't explode we will make them explode
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
So this thread was started yesterday, and now 268 posts. I guess once PiLoT comes back to check he will delete most of them.

Also, its Monday - how many of you guys don't work?? LOL
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
I don't think that the OTA check on the phone checks for the update more than once a day
[XPERIA X10 General] tready:
Latest news on Android 2.1 Xperia X10 update On Android 2.1 Xperia X10 release date“Regarding why there’s no firm date. There is of course a detailed internal plan and as you say unbranded kits will in most cases be before branded ones. However even unbranded kits differ between markets and all of them need a separate approval and for some markets also local type approvals. Also why “end of October” instead of a date for the start. I do understand that you want a date for when we start but since a plan always is just a plan I wouldn’t want to commit to a date and then if something changes have to change it again. Also much of the things I write here later spread (even sometimes without the right context) in other forums and websites and I wouldn’t want people to get false expectations. (imagine e.g. a big gadget blog picking up on news of a date and then everyone reading that blog expect their phones to be upgradeable on that day, without even knowing about the gradual nature of this roll-out). Instead I will try to keep you posted here on the blog as soon as we start and then going forward.” got this of the offical se blog reading the the first part about generic fw tells us we gotta wait for approvel or am i.wrong i dont no this update is drivin us all mad
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
just checked for update, is any1 else getting one!!!!!!!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
7:30am here so not yet at work xD
[XPERIA X10 General] j3yps:
You serious? pls provide some details about your phone
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
He didn't say anything about him getting the update. And, plz, get back on topic or it will be closed
[XPERIA X10 General] Samberoony:
it says there is on the phone but on seus it says error
[XPERIA X10 General] Vilam:
So, actually I'm refreshing the xda forum every minutes, but I got work to do XD
[XPERIA X10 General] marice22:
Does it give an error? or does it say you have the latest firmware?
[XPERIA X10 General] The-Lord:
Aaaha. When I read the topic I dint understand.

I am not freshing the news page but visiting the General section after every 30 min. It is 1:40 in UK.. lets see how many refreshes more I need to do. :))
[XPERIA X10 General] j3yps:
SEUS still say that my Phone has the latest software
[XPERIA X10 General] Contrarian:
That's not the latest news. Why don't you include the date your quoted text was originally published? Beacause you'll find Rickard Skoberg (SE Maketing) posted that on the SE Product blog about a week ago.
[XPERIA X10 General] anders260:
Rikard Skogberg says:

October 25, 2010 at 2:00 pm

Serge,

Of course I think it has taken long, I assure you that we’re of course not happy with this delay.

.

Sandeep S,

It’s not only about operator approvals. There are also as I understood it markets where local type approval is needed. The differences in what the local versions of the software contain also make some of them need more testing etc etc. Besides that it of course also comes down to our own resources in releasing that many different SW-scrips which also takes some time. Each and every one of them need testing and internal approval as well. Then when it comes to not setting a date. I agree we are only a few days from it now, end of October is soon here. Still I don’t want to give a specific date just in case something happens that make it shift a day or two. I will let you know when we start instead to be sure. IMPORTANT though – far from all “kits” will be available on the first day or even probably in the first week (which also makes setting a date a bit irrelevant) but rather, as described before, it will take quite some time before all of them are out there.
[XPERIA X10 General] SK_007:
Damn! still no update via SEUS or PC Companion...............
[XPERIA X10 General] JuaNMaN:
Any news?

No??

Ok, bye ...
[XPERIA X10 General] SuperUserMovado:
thats a good point except SE knows that no one is up to the task of breaking their encryption. In motorola phones it is called efuse, what is it called in the x10?

LoL! I am referring to more of what the XDA Developers are doing and say in this forum.

So for example, if they post in the public forum that they have successfully jailbroken the X10 and can install their own custom OS, you can be sure that a new firmware update will be rushed out by SE to the public quickly to stop it from happening.
[XPERIA X10 General] SK_007:
Lol!

u only came here to say this...
[XPERIA X10 General] nagrockz:
no update in india
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Well I thought that the rate at which this thread was growing would slow down once the initial anticipation died down and people realised SE is run by a bunch of slackers, but good to see that it hasn't

(Although the thread has gotten quite OT)

XDA must be thanking SE for this screw-up... anyone estimate how much they have made off this thread alone? :p PiLoT? we should all get medals ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] violentgoomba:
I can't work! This is seriously making me inefficient...

How much more time do they need?
[XPERIA X10 General] SK_007:
Yeah very true we definately deserve some medals............
[XPERIA X10 General] Hypercore:
So you're telling me that having Generic UK firmware on my phone won't allow me to download the update once it comes out?

I'm not going to believe a single random user on a forum who could quite possibly be a troll.

So, can anyone confirm this? I've just spent a long time debranding and flashing the Generic UK firmware on my phone.
[XPERIA X10 General] :
It is weird that the thread is growing exponentially fast....... SE must be monitoring this...... 'If you are SE, then release the update, enuf testing, we will do that'.
[XPERIA X10 General] LiLAsN:
Want these?

Hey guys! Managed to extract these. Don't know whether it is posted but oh well..

Here's the new Blue wallpaper for X10's new 2.1 update. :D

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54969192@N07/5121795541/
[XPERIA X10 General] violentgoomba:
I'd be happy to test. Let's go SE, show us what you got!
[XPERIA X10 General] falcon_88:
Ding Ding ding ding ding ........
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Hey... I'm pretty much in the same boat as you (got it from Rogers, don't want to wait till I become an old man for the update) I wanted to flash mine to a Generic firmware sometime around the second week of September, to be nicely in time for the update (man was I wrong)

Anyway, I did some research, asked around, and everyone told me the Generics would get the update first, just not sure which one. So I looked at the list of all the ROMs, and the only X10a one I saw was the Latin American one. I was a bit apprehensive about flashing an X10i ROM due to the differences in the 3g radios. Ended up flashing the Latin American one, and as it turns out they are going to get it in the first week of November, so I don't mind waiting that extra week instead of getting the UK one mostly this week. This might change, mind you, based on what other users like you say about flashing to the UK ROM. So, good luck, keep me posted :p
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
i'll skip the medal if i can just have an updated FW :cool::D
[XPERIA X10 General] saketh321:
Uh-oh this better not be true.

http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=11441
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
dont stress.....even if for whatever reason the other poster was right and you cannot get the update through SEUS.....you can guarantee that there will be a decrypted ROM on XDA within a few hours....you can just use the flash tool and load it up :cool:
[XPERIA X10 General] j4mm3r:
Amusing...

Look guys its been real amusing watching this thread with all these varied messages being posted by XDA users. I would just like to make a few points.

Sony Ericsson is not Sony. So please don't mix these two companies.

Manufacturers should and do have full freedom to decide and implement whatever security mechanisms that they deem fit in order to prevent unauthorized or 3rd party firmware loading on their devices.

Consumers should and do have full freedom to break those prevention mechanisms. Or, for that matter choose only those devices which allow users to customize software aspects.

Sony Ericsson in my opinion and experience has always been very poor when it comes to software aspects of their phone experience. Do not expect magic when it comes to Android.

Sony Ericsson in my opinion and experience has always been very good when it comes to Hardware aspects of the their phone experience. Obviously, the iPhone saga has proven that Software is the king nowadays.

We as consumers have the power to decide which devices to buy, which manufacturers to recommend to our friends. Lets just stick to fair play. Exercise our powers. Spread the word. No amount of name calling, pleading or anxiety is going to change corporate behavior such as what is displayed by current phone manufactures (and game console manufacturers, table manufacturers and many more).

Its simple market economics. Thanks for listening.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Can ppl please stop posting this... its old news. The article clearly says pushed until late October

Just that for some reason it was posted today
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
old news mate, they are using information from last month. dont stress

(plus this was covered a few times in the last 20 pages, but i dont blame ya for missing it!!)
[XPERIA X10 General] :
Dude.... its old news posted late
[XPERIA X10 General] saketh321:
oh oops nvm... i got all worked up when i saw delayed and saw the today date and went all ape **** lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] saketh321:
lol the things that happen when you walk away from the computer for a few hours.
[XPERIA X10 General] deconfrost:
would this put their aim of number one android phone maker to number LAST android phone maker? atleast I only bought mine few days ago, but that doesnt mean I havent been waiting, I got it thinking it be the end of this month :( but no they fooled me?? :) lol
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
i know hey, i missed about 50 pages while i slept last night!!

we still live in hope for an update before end of october....2 business days and 4 calendar days remaining. fingers crossed!
[XPERIA X10 General] SK_007:
Enough!its 8:03 in the morning and i haven't slept yet,damn SE! Anyway now i am going to bed will come back after 6 to 7 hours bye all of you...........
[XPERIA X10 General] akinaStarz:
Good morning everyone.

Has anyone already update to 2.1?
[XPERIA X10 General] saketh321:
me me me... not
[XPERIA X10 General] darkmax1974:
Just how fast is this thread growing? Same time here yesterday it was only page 154....
[XPERIA X10 General] totalperception:
Close but no cigar... will require .sin files to match with manufacture date from here...
[XPERIA X10 General] wiedz:
the tags is getting ridiculous :P

i like emma though lol

watson

bunton

thompson
[XPERIA X10 General] akinaStarz:
urgh !

then it will be tomorrow.

another day of waiting.
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
hmm its funny how all you guys say you just got up, and its 11 pm over here! 27th Oct still...
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
lol, its 2:20pm here, on the 28th! (and yes, im at work :D)
[XPERIA X10 General] SPIDERTECH:
They may not BE Sony, but they ARE owned by them.

"Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications was established in 2001 by telecommunications leader Ericsson and consumer electronics powerhouse Sony Corporation. The company is owned equally by Ericsson and Sony and announced its first joint products in March 2002."

Source: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/company/aboutus/profile
[XPERIA X10 General] Hypercore:
It's 10:22pm, October 27th here in Manitoba, Canada.

As long as they release it before my birthday (30th) I will be happy. But, obviously, it would be better if it was released today or tomorrow (maybe even in five minutes, you never know).

I hate guessing games.
[XPERIA X10 General] saketh321:
still 8:34 in Vancouver, haha my bday is on halloween... i want a cool bday gift
[XPERIA X10 General] AssyrianBLOOD:
11:22. Ontario. And i want 2.1, soon im going to start saying i NEED 2.1

Might even cal in sick to work until i get the update. Not feeling to good. SE upset me :(
[XPERIA X10 General] apr1000:
dude i dont know why you're saying sony ericsson software suxx. In my opinion its top notch especially for android 1.6. we have mediascape which is unrivaled in terms of media on any other android phone. not to mention the fact that the software isn't buggy. my phone rarely lags or freezes up. compare that to the galaxy s or even some htc phones and u know what i mean.

sure sony ericsson takes a while, but 2.1 isn't very special its just a number and i can wait. 1.6 does everything i need it to do, and i was talking to my friend about the iphone 4 and ive had an ipod touch and i can tell you that at first its good but after u get an android phone u realise its crap.

u cant look at ur files(like in x10 u can use astro or whatever). you cant download stuff directly from your browser(at least not pdf which i have to download for my chemistry lecture every week)

and most importantly you cant multi task, me and my friend were comparing iphone 4 to my xperia, and i asked him if his iphone 4 could listen to music, download 2 songs at once(using android market music app), and look at the top 50 chart on the internet. and he said no he couldn't and was quite jealous of it.

basically the iphone is an app based experience where apps control everyhting, and the x10 or android is an internet based experience where u dont need apps to do everything

sure the iphone is smooth and looks nice, but idc about that i want functionality and that's what android provides, and in my honest opinion ios is crap its too controlling
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
I took a nap and 44 pages added...any summary of what happened in the last 43 pages?
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
hmmm pregnancy, i want 2.1, is it there yet?, are we there yet? kids, SE is mean, etc, etc, etc just the same thing like the last gazillion pages Dx
[XPERIA X10 General] saketh321:
just more x10 users wasting their lives waiting for that update.
[XPERIA X10 General] irc75:
nothing.. only waitingg :S
[XPERIA X10 General] kiffies:
Just spoke to Aaron at Sony Ericsson Australia. Basically said he's also at the mercy of the bigwigs, but is hoping for the end of this month.
[XPERIA X10 General] nagrockz:
gettin irritated when i hear the term end of this month huh
[XPERIA X10 General] violentgoomba:
By "end of this month" I hope they're not saying LITERALLY end of this month
[XPERIA X10 General] gregmcp:
Better than hearing "Some time next month".
[XPERIA X10 General] violentgoomba:
For my own sanity I hope I don't see/hear that.

Back to work!
[XPERIA X10 General] dave2:
Yeah its the same old response. 'The update is still set to roll out by the end of the month'. We are at the end of the month NOW. Theres only a few days left and still no release date. :madness:
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
november is going to start and they will keep saying by the end of this month, we said it already
[XPERIA X10 General] nagrockz:
i pray god that they dont postpone it again and say proudly new year gift for you all..wait for dec end!
[XPERIA X10 General] pabling19:
SE 2.1 update - vaporware

someone update the wiki

EDIT:

Welcome BACK!!

How's the routine maintenance going?
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
not only that dave, but they still dont have any dates for the release!

i mean pick one....there are only 2 to choose from (4 if you count non business days)
[XPERIA X10 General] consolation:
Omfg, what planet are you on? X10 lags like a 3 legged dog with arthritis that's suffering from crotch itch.

You can do all the above on the iPhone simultaneously, without any problem. Clearly you or your friend never actually touched one.

X10 competes at an entirely different price point from iPhone 4. And performs appropriately for its price.

Sent from my ZX81.
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
well considering that they don't work on weekends then is 2 but might be 3 if you consider time zones
[XPERIA X10 General] egyptshun:
So I have the apk s to 2.1, but dunno how top install them, I installed the 2.1 alarm clock but it won't appear in the 1.6 launcher, also tried the framework... Bad idea... Adb ain't allow me to install their youtube app, though it's looking nice from what I see, out had some things dedicated to youtube, oh and theres styll the gay moxier

..