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[Galaxy Tab General] Logicalstep:
I was actually looking forward to getting one of these, thinking it would be much cheaper and have better specs than the Ipad.

This is NOT the way to enter the market. The Ipad is typical Apple, you can't just release a product at a higher price because you believe it has better features, Apple fanbois aren't going to choose the Galaxy tab because it has better features. They might choose it if it's much cheaper though.

I was expecting this to cost £350 GBP at the most. There will be plenty of competition at this price point soon enough, the question is, has Samsung priced itself out of the market?

Logiclastep
[Galaxy Tab General] Mithent:
I'm not interested in any tablet; I don't see how I would use one. I do think it's quite a mistake not to price the Galaxy Tab competitively with the iPad though.
[Galaxy Tab General] Rawat:
Pricing is whack. Should have been around £400.
[Galaxy Tab General] achio1115:
Umm, NO! I'll just hang on and wait for more options. Don't get me wrong, I love my SGS. But doesn't mean I'll blindly pay anything for another Samsung device.
[Galaxy Tab General] Tachikoma_kun:
As much as I hate the iPad, I would rather buy one of those than spend £180 more on the Galaxy Tab. It should have been the same price or cheaper than the iPad.
[Galaxy Tab General] Curfish:
Samsung have said that they haven't released any pricing so the prices that you see are purely guess work.

If this is price more than £400 then it will be a massive FAIL!!!
[Galaxy Tab General] alovell83:
I think the most important things to compare, are yes, iPad pricing and also history. Didn't you guys see how much the Galaxy S was when pricing was leaked? It was easily 1-2 hundred Euros and, in some occasions, more than 300 USD more than the unlocked versions.

We definitely need to wait for pricing, also there will be subsidies (but I think Samsung shouldn't be trying to price these higher with those in mind, it should be able to compete on unlocked price and then get a subsidy if a customer desires.)

I barely was interested when I saw it as a casual device. This, obviously, fails at this price, but I do expect it to come down quite a bit. Russian prices on the Galaxy S were more than 1,000 USD, I know this is a larger and more legit site but there were similar price gouging going on there too. Part of this is just sites trying to make a quick buck, some of them might not even have Samsung pricing. As a matter of fact, I'm guessing they don't and are just trying to rush to list the product at a safe and highly profitable price.
[Galaxy Tab General] t0ska:
I wanted one for the family for home use only e.g. don't want a data contact with it. Ereader, photoframe, mediaplayer, webdevice in one. Just like my sgs but a bit bigger for home but still portable enough for holidays (when data contracts are useless in the eu anyway).

£350 I would be there but almost double that! No way. Such a shame but it looks like it will be an ipad instead. Just don't like them as much as android stuff.

Fail
[Galaxy Tab General] kcharng:
Well, the pricing sure is worst. I was expecting something a lot cheaper too. :(
[Galaxy Tab General] ozy944:
IMHO, theyve priced themselves out of the market. i-customers are willing to pay an i-tax to get the latest i-gadget. We on the other hand want a cheaper alternative that does more so we can sock it to the i-bunch.

Samsung have failed big time here. They have to bear in mind, most people are not keen on a tablet. If you create a new market segment and you dont have a loyal fanbase, you have to price low to gain market entry.

Look at Microsoft with XBOX and thats an epic success now.

Oh, and someone put up a poll :)
[Galaxy Tab General] Dogmann:
Hi all,

First of all judging pricing by what Expansys want is really not realistic they are always expensive and especially so on as yet unreleased products. Just check out how much they want for iPads to give you a clue as to how over priced they are.

As for those of you who think this should be around £350-£400 really please explain just how you work this out then? How can you expect it to be cheaper then a smart Phone with a 4" screen when it has a 7" screen and similar spec's.

Of course we would all like to see this as cheap as possible but really need to also be realistic Tablet/slates are not mainstream products well not yet anyway they are currently niche and premium products and as such will command premium pricing.

Also comparing it to an iPad makes very little sense other then they share the same form factor function wise they are worlds apart and if you want all the extra functions of course its going to cost you. Maybe in a years time if production is in full flow they may get cheaper but for now i think its unrealistic to expect the prices many of you seem to think it should be.

Personally I'm not convinced of the need for these tablet /slates being as in demand as many seem to think but don't doubt that if Dell sell the Streak with a 5" screen for £449 in the UK the Looking Glass devices with 7" and 10" screens are going to be of a similar price to the Galaxy Tab and even more expensive for the 10" screen version.

Marc
[Galaxy Tab General] rmanaudio:
Samsung is on crack if they think NA will pay more than the lowest priced ipad. If it does not cost less than the ipad, it will not sell.

The screen size is smaller. The average person will go with the ipad as it costs less and you get more screen. So, unless it is $399 or less, forget it Samsung, you screwed up! And I have a feeling they did not, wait till it is priced for NA, I have a feeling they will have something for $399.
[Galaxy Tab General] alovell83:
Dear Marc,

Logic and analysis has no place in an emotional thread or on the interwebs in general so GTFO of both :D, I kid of course.

I do think some of the hardware from the iPad is better such as the storage (speed) and screen. Plus, they will be, direct competitors, even if it's something where many customers from group A wont buy from the other company and vice versa. However, many mainstream consumers are outside both the Android and Apple ecosystems and might not really have much of an OS preference (I'd venture to guess many consumers would prefer Apple for hype alone, plus a bit of the extra software programming that it has out of the box.

I think the people who compare the device to Apple's wifi device are trying to be a bit of wishful thinkers and just not looking at the situation.

I think one thing you did miss regarding Apple's ability to keep the price low is their sales volume. They can afford to slightly cut margins because they are the ones who could sell 5M+ in their first year, maybe first 6 months, also, they were investing in their future by getting their market share as big as possible so they would only have to deal with a slow erosion of customers rather than an uphill fight if competitors had similar devices on day 1.

£400 should be realistic after subsidy, but that isn't going to pacify the angry mob here, and I don't necessarily blame them. £400 is a lot to pay if you are locked down for 24 months.
[Galaxy Tab General] alovell83:
You are on crack if you think that this is a realistic way to compare pricing to US pricing. You know how much the cheapest iPad goes for in Europe? About 650 USD, and when they priced it initially it was closer to 700 USD than 600, but the Euro has lost power since the iPad launch.

Lastly, as we have said a few times in this thread, Expansys is an expensive site, especially when no one else has a product advertised. They are trying to garner attention, protect their downside if Samsung prices it higher than they expect (lets say they expect 400 euro, then want to price it at 550 euro, if Samsung shocks them and releases it at 500 expansys just lost 100 euro and 2/3 of their desired margins) and there just isn't enough sales competition in order to bring the price down.

The Captivate and Vibrant were going for $.01 on contract from Amazon within 2-4 weeks of their initial sales date in the US...let's just say if you don't like the initial pricing, wait 5 minutes and check Amazon and Ebay again...
[Galaxy Tab General] mm148881:
I would be a little bit more careful. In France the SGS on June 15 had an recommended price of 499 €. I bought one for 429 € beginning of August and this is still the best price one can get nowadays. If, as it seems semi-officially, the recommended price for a Galaxy Tablet is 699 €, I doubt it will go much lower than 600 €. I hope I am wrong...
[Galaxy Tab General] zen123:
The expansys price includes expansys tax. I very much doubt that it will cost that much but then again I don't expect it to be cheaper by much. Buying one outright is going to cost a lot of £££ so I'll be waiting to see how much carriers will be pricing it but again I don't expect it to be that cheap on a 2yr contract.

For those who think it should cost £350 are being unrealistic, I think a sim free Galaxy S retails more than that.

I'm presently more interested in the new Archos 70 which costs significantly less, approx £280 outright. Admittedly it may not be as good as the Samsung Tab but for what I will be using it for (mainly media consumption & web surfing) it will be more than adequate.
[Galaxy Tab General] Logicalstep:
I don;t know about you lot, but why are people chatting about subsidies. Surely most people have a mobile phone? why would you want ANOTHER contract so you can surf on a device with a screen 3 " bigger? come on.

I wanted this device so I could have something lying about the house, that when I wanted to have a quick surf I could just pick up and it'll boot quickly and I'm away.

Why buy that when you could buy this for £350...and this is how I see Tablets being priced (great Spec as well):

http://www.reghardware.com/2010/09/02/toshiba_folio_100/

Logicalstep
[Galaxy Tab General] alovell83:
I think as far as I read, not a lot of consumers with smartphones are highly interested in tablets for portable usage, some might use it as an in-house device for reading or media consumption. So, perhaps, really a tablet's best markets aren't with people who have data contracts to begin with, and if you don't have a data contract perhaps you'd want a tablet that is off contract so you can have something more portable than your laptop and more browser friendly than a smartphone. Perhaps if you don't have a smartphone you can afford a 20-30 dollar or euro conrtact. Plus, you aren't cutting off your cellular communications if you kill your battery while also you might not be able to get out of the contract you signed 12 months ago to get into the smartphone game even if you wanted to.

As I stated, and perhaps you weren't referring to my comment, Samsung would be making a mistake if they plan on making this competitively priced after a subsidy rather than before.
[Galaxy Tab General] Toss3:
Would rather get an iPad which has a lot more apps and an OS designed for a tab. Android is not tablet ready imho.
[Galaxy Tab General] kcharng:
Comparing to ipad is justified. After all it is one of tab direct competitors and current market leader. Why justify the price for tab by comparing to galaxy rather than to the competing products.

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[Galaxy Tab General] davanw:
I think American customers will see a dramatic price difference from the European pricing. It won't be a straight currency conversion. Look at how inflated pricing is in Europe on a lot of things, technology included.
[Galaxy Tab General] cyanide1973:
I think the price will drop buy the time it hits north America I bought a international galaxy s for $800 but it didn't work on bell so I returned it and by the time bell got it I only payed $500 off contract .
[Galaxy Tab General] TeamSancheZz:
No thanks, I'll stick with my Galaxy S Phone. I dont understand the concept of the ipad or this device. Even netbooks are retarded. Who wants an oversized slab when your phone will do just as much, if not... more! These devices are all garbage. It's all about the hardware and honestly ipad, tab, and netbooks have been released way too early given the hardware capabilities. Maybe I'll consider one of these devices in like... oh i dunno 2015... when they manage to cram larger amounts of hardware into a smaller device. Or maybe not... seeing as the techinical advance in cellular devices are the only reason why these useless oversized cell's even exist. Basically the only reason to have one is for curiosity or the thrill of having something shiny & new.
[Galaxy Tab General] zen123:
I'm presently out of contract...using an o2 simplicity sim on 30 day rolling contract so basically once its available through whatever carrier I could just walk in get the tab with the contract & then use the sim in my mobile phone.

The Tosh looks nice but I don't want a 10" screen.
[Galaxy Tab General] AnttiV:
I'll have to disagree on that. Partly because this Tab seems to be THE device I've been waiting for the last ten years or so. Just #"¤%& the pricing Samsung?!

With the 7" screen and relatively thin enclosure (just 12mm) this thing is easily portable and can be carried in larger pockets (even trouser pockets). With a netbook/laptop convertible, that's not possible. You're looking at a ~10" screen (or the like, with bezels) with much thicker enclosure. You'd need to be wearing some weird pants to put that in a pocket.

Even if it is kinda awkward, you CAN use the Tab as a phone (and sms/mms is just pure bliss with it). With most netbooks/convertibles, that's not possible.

I can come up with hundreds of uses for this thing, and I could easily replace my phone, pda and laptop with just a single Tab.

It is just MY opinion, but I think the Tab is the greatest device in awhile. It just a big shame they slapped just a huge idiotic price on it. (949€ from Samsung themselves to a local mobile log.) If that can be seriously lowered, or offered subsidized via carriers with reasonable monthly prices... count me in :D
[Galaxy Tab General] orateam:
For some reason, i thought it was going to be around $499.

I had planned on getting one, but not anymore. We have 1 Ipad in the household and we love it. Can't get enough of it to be honest. If anyone needs to look up thier email or other website, the Ipad is the best way to go. See a youtube video on TV (usually edited and shortened) that looks interesting, in 10 seconds, you can see the real thing.

We are not Apple fanbois, I have the droid 2 and will get a fascinate, and we desperately wanted that gorgeous AMOLED in a super sized version, but not at $1000.

I think we'll wait out and see what the holiday brings. We all know that the $499 price of the Ipad is inflated for profit. A comparable Android should only sell for $299 by Christmas.
[Galaxy Tab General] LostAlone:
I agree with the greatness. I also think that the phone function is something that a lot of people are overlooking as it relates to pricing.

Y'all talking about the list price of a Galaxy S. Guess how much I (and a lot of other people) paid for their £500 list price devices ? Zero. Not a penny. This will be coming to carriers with that level of subsidization.

The price off contract will be high, but for the vast majority of consumers its not going to make much difference. Even with a cheap contract (say £10 to £15 a month only offering data a few texts and calls) you could easily expect the price to be under £300, and probably under £200 with a full smartphone contract. Its hinted here that Samsung are suggesting £200 which obviously has to be on contract, but thats fine by me. Sure its the Daily Mail (which is the worst paper in the UK), but according to Samsung, EVERYTHING else, and especially the places selling them are totally guessing and they have NOT released any pricing data at all. Why believe one rumor over another ?

Now, its the same parts as the Galaxy, just with a big battery and screen, more storage sometimes. Why would it cost twice as much ? It doesn't even have much development cost, since its the same OS and parts. They just had to rig up a screen and an HDMI out. They could afford to sell it at a nice low margin and still make a good profit off the whole thing, and beyond that, piss apple the hell off.

I can't see why you'd want to get one of these and not use the radio anyway. Its not a coffee table thing like the iPad. Its for comuiting and such like, and tbh I'd be tempted to make it my daily driver whenever I have to travel.
[Galaxy Tab General] Bernardos70:
Not just that, but the Tab has a regular LCD TFT, not the SAMOLED.

A lot of the times the translation from Euro to USD is more like 299EUR = 299USD. For example, the playstations were priced like that.

But still, I really was looking for a wi-fi only version, cheaper than the wi-fi only iPad. I won't get my wish, Samsung won't get my money. That's the way the world goes around...
[Galaxy Tab General] kcharng:
No SAMOLED I thing the deal just get a lot sour.

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[Galaxy Tab General] mesasone:
I don't really see why this thing is so damn expensive if it's not using AMOLED/S-AMOLED.

Is the Hummingbird that expensive? I mean, Apple is putting the A4 (which I beleive is VERY closely related to the A8-based Hummingbird) in the new AppleTV ($99 USD) and iPod touch ($229 USD).

Unless they are including the cost of a data plan in the price, this is just absurd. Also, I'd really like one with out the cellular radio - I have no desire to add a line and pay for ANOTHER data plan for one of these. Wireless tethering on my Capative/Galaxy S will do fine, thanks.

Unless the details change between now and launch, I can't see myself getting one of these - even assuming they make it to AT&T here in the US. I'll wait/hope for a wifi-only version packing Super AMOLED in future versions. AMOLED with an invented mode would be great as an e-Reader (extremely low battery drain with white text/black background), which I would consider an important function in a device this size.

EDIT: From what I've seen of the apps, Samsung really did a stellar job scaling the core apps to this form factor.
[Galaxy Tab General] Anderdroid:
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

ONE WORD.

Archos.

10.1" tablet=$299

7" tablet=$249

1ghz, etc, etc, etc.
[Galaxy Tab General] mesasone:
I don't think it's crazy at all to have expected this thing to land under 500 dollars. I see a lot of people saying "well, MSRP on the iPhone 4 is 699 USD (or whatever), how could you possibly expect this to be less than that" - but Apple just announced the new iPod touch which has all the same technology and features (1 gHz A4 chip, retina display and all the rest) of the iPhone 4 minus the cellular radio for $229 MSRP.

500 dollars may be a bit low for a 3G version, but would be perfectly reasonable for wifi only version (which appears to be mysteriously missing altogether - really Samsung? REALLY?)

In either case, I'll be skipping this at least until they bring out a version with 7" S-AMOLED. A LCD screen just doesn't have enough utility to make this useful in my life. With AMOLED/S-AMOLED, you could use it as an eReader and get decent battery life with an invented display option - after all, black pixels would use virtually no power, so it would just be the white text sipping juice. And of course, movies would look incredible on the S-AMOLED, which would be great for traveling. But high price and no S-AMOLED? No thanks.
[Galaxy Tab General] AnttiV:
I gotta agree on the price. Even if there isn't exactly a perfectly comparable tablet on the market, Archos comes close and Samsung themselves with their phones. I don't think it's THAT expensive to add a cellular radio to a tablet (Archos vs Tab) or just up the screen size and keep everything else relatively same (Galaxy S vs Galaxy Tab).

It's just mind-boggingly expensive, compared to the hardware you get. I understand a certain amount of "premium" you'd have to pay to get all the functionality in a stylish package, but come ON!

If it would cost ~600e... That would be understandable... but we'll see.

But, I gotta disagree on one point. I think Tab would lose a big part of what it is without the cellular radio. It would just be another "Archos" or some Korean I Wannabe Digital -company's tablet. The Tab, as I see it, is all about mobility. It doesn't matter WHERE you go, or WHAT you want to do wherever you are. the Tab's always on, always connected. Without cellular, you'd be relying on (open and free) wifi coverage, which - at least here - is rare indeed. With UMTS/HSPA cellular you'd pretty much covered the whole world over.

Which brings me to a related, but not entirely on-topic question. sorry for this.

I keep reading everywhere that people would need "data plans" for all their devices.. don't you people have MultiSIM services in other countries? And do you really PAY money for your phones IN ADDITION to monthly fees?

Let me get an example. I pay ('cause I was stupid and didn't wait) 25€/month for my HTC Desire. Plus 13.90€/month for data. That INCLUDES *all* calls I make, all SMS/MMS messages I send/receive. ALL data I send/receive via GPRS/EDGE/3G/UMTS with unlimited speed (7.2Mbps in case of Desire). AND it includes ALL of this (except sms/mms receive) for FIVE (5) separate devices, including 3G USB modems. I currently use my Desire, a crappy Nokia 5230 and two Huawei 3G modems and they are ALL included in the one monthly payment. (well I do pay 4€/month for the crappy nokia, but I needed a second phone :))

If I'd waited a bit (two months or so) I could've gotten a deal on Desire; 19.90€/month for the phone, all data (unlimited speed), all calls and all messages. (All these contracts are for 2 years.) THAT isn't too much money for what you get, if you ask me :)

If the Tab would sell for about the same amount as the Desire, I would pick it up in a heartbeat. (I could just stick the last SIM card in the Tab and pay only for the device itself, 'cause all data/calls are already included in my current plan.)

Sorry, I went rambling again, but I'm totally giddy about the Tab. I just wish I won't be disappointed by the pricing when it finally comes out via official channels...
[Galaxy Tab General] sylau90:
Definitely not...smaller screen&plastic body cost me 1000bucks?I rather wait for windows embedded compact 7 slate pc or WEB OS tablet. now I kind of boring with android OS,playing it everyday on my HTC HD2...heavy use of it,just it looks pretty similar to iOS...wanna try something new....
[Galaxy Tab General] mesasone:
Jesus - I knew that we got screwed over here on our cellphones, but that is just absurd. That comes to roughly 25 dollars US, which is less than that for our data plans ALONE. I think that the Captivate/Vibrant (US Galaxy S variants) are now available for free with contract for from certain online companies, but we'll still be likely forking out 70+ dollars a month for phone/data/messaging. And that's only for one device. On AT&T, we'll be forking over another 10 bucks a month to add an additional line, plus 15-25 dollars for a second data plan - which would be metered, (2 gigs/month in the case of the $25 plan) as well.
[Galaxy Tab General] sergiop83:
hey this article just appeared on yahoo

stating that the price will be somewhere around 200-300 dollars. If this is the case i think i would pick one up. Samsung has always made great devices and I'd never had a problem with a samsung device from tv's to phones. I think if the price sticks, its going to kick apple tail in sales. Especially if its available through different carriers here in the states.
[Galaxy Tab General] mesasone:
If only...
[Galaxy Tab General] wallah:
NON

It's too expensive !!
[Galaxy Tab General] vrhunski:
I will buy galaxy tab for max 700euro.
[Galaxy Tab General] zwuncki:
The price IS REAL.

O2 Germany sells it for this price officially and they normally have normal prices, not too high, not much more than amazon.de

769€ (around 1000$) at O2 Germany, amazon.de also has it for this price.

It may be the cheapest at some stores for 650€ (840$), but that's still insane.

And why not compare it to the iPad? Both tablets, iPad was the first and each tablet will now be compared to it.