yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Ok dont take this the wrong way but it makes me want to say you've put them on wrong...my DHD is nothing like that, in fact the build quality is great...no gaps, no loose fittings...everything is perfect...

Im sure you have fitted them on right but I would rather want to believe the above than to think HTC is sending out phones like these....Very well made ones and really badly made ones....Where's the Quality Control for gods sake...was someone having a bad day....or did some slip through the net that shouldn't of??

Thats just not good enough..
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andreasy:
Does anyone know if there is any danger or problem with the cheap external charger as well? If you buy a genuine battery and the $8 charger+2 batteries, and through away the batteries, could there be any problem either to the phone or to the batteries by using that cheap external charger?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faugusztin:
After 1 day, i'm satisfied with the one i own. No problems like elisir79. The only problem i had was Google, and their market problems yesterday, just when i arrived with my phone and tried to download apps i use :D. 12 hours 47 minutes since i disconnected the phone from charger, still 48% battery. Of course with some moderate usage, but it seems to me that battery life will be on par with my Motorola Milestone, which is good enough for me.

@andreasy: i have a external charger, but not a cheap one (Nokia AC-10E). Had no problems charging Motorola Milestone with it, and i don't expect any problems with Desire HD.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] setspeed:
Send/take that sh*t back! That is absolutely shocking!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semi666:
:(

Bought DHD last friday but I had to send it for service already :( Internal phone speaker was so quiet and had extremly bad quality of sound. I couldnt hear other person when I was in front of TV because of that ****ty quality. Stupid Vodafone told me that they have to send it for reparation and it will take up to ONE MONTH before I get it back.. This really sucks:mad:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andreasy:
We end up to the conclusion that we must always wait before we buy. I believe that those issues will be resolved in later releases but those who bought early may have to live with some drawbacks if at the end they are not replaced with good ones.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PapaDocta:
i highly doubt that HTC will fix any of those issues on later releases... because

1. poor loud speaker has been synonymous with HTC's name.. i have owned quite few htc devices and all had ****ty loud and ear speakers except for TP2... good loud speaker...

2. pink spot in camera... well i had this issue with my HTC HD, HTC HD2 and now Nexus One and from the pics it still exists with DHD..

3. crappy multi-touch .. again in HD2 and N1

so they will never fix a thing.. i mean that had all these problems with the above phones and nothing got fixed till now..

i'm glad i didn't go crazy (like always) and did not buy the phone :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Overloaded:
I have seen allot pictures and video's taken with the DHD and have not seen any pink spots yet.. And they fixed the multi touch and support up to 4 touch points perfectly.. Check the DHD video section ;)

I don't know about the speaker, the speaker of my TD2 was fairly loud compared to other devices.. And of course it's a crappy speaker, you want a huge phone with build in sub woofer? Just take some good in ear headphone things or something.. ;)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
It would be nice, I think he means it should be a bit louder thats all, the Galaxy S has a pretty loud speaker so I guess theres no reason why the DHD can't do the same....the size of the phone makes loads of room for twin speakers like the Nokia 5800....hey they could of put 4 speaker grills on it if they had wanted...now yeah thats a bit over the top but on a busy road sometimes you just cant hear the phone ringing....but if I were to flip the coin then there is enough of those annoying people with loud speaker phones sitting on the back of the buses.....we dont want any more :D
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ymiran:
A random reboot story :-(

...I´m not really happy with my HTC DHD because of random rebooting. No software is installed, only the firmware update and the phone reboots daily 4-10 times anyway :-( ... But i like the design, Android OS, HTC Sense and the rest of the phone too.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Take it back and get a replacement, it shouldn't be doing that at all.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vimto25:
Im in love with mine, carnt fault it at all. Had iPhone for long time and feel like I made the best option to change to dhd with android 2.2, things I hated about iPhone was quite abit, hated having to use itunes and speaker was pants on it, I do find there's better apps for apple than android. Battery isn't any better than the dhd, and I really thought the iPhone4 was fast LOL! HTC Desire Hd is the best device to date
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boarne71:
Only thing I dont like with my dhd after using it for a week now is, low volume speakers, dont like much those cheap fragile sim/batt covers. Maybe I could complain about viewangle,but I really cant as I never use the phone in those extreme angles. Other then that im very happy with my dhd going from a sgs 16gig.

Got a much better camera now,almost perfect natural colors on the display compared to sgs unnatural way to strong colors. Love the weight and feeling when holding my dhd,didnt like the light weight of the sgs or the iphone look and feel.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Am I missing something here??

The camera on the DHD indoors goes from light to dark due to the bad exposure...am I the only one with this problem??
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] appelflap:
Agree. Aren't there any (hidden) service menu commands for the Desire HD? Maybe we can kick it up a notch.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vimto25:
Camera is amazing in and out and performs better than my 10 mega pixel compact camera,
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gibbo82:
I'm having problems with the camera also, really bad pics here. I've tried playing around with settings, but no joy!. I'm disappointed there's no hard button capture also, hope a custom rom can fix this...?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boarne71:
There is nothing wrong with my dhd camera, and i do demand good quality.

Indoor without flash its better then my sgs,and when I bought my sgs a month ago I didnt mind the flash cause I thought the camera worked fine without it indoor with not so good light. Now with this dhd I thought that.. ok it has flash so it will probably not handle low light indoor as good as sgs did,but boy was I wrong. Im quite happy with my dhd,very good phone.

Im sorry if this sounds like im a fanboy,but that is not the case. The dhd isnt perfect,it got low volume speakers for example.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?75wzp9i2s35kk9q

http://www.mediafire.com/i/?2ege7e667qhycgq

http://www.mediafire.com/i/?bektdaw4qwm7p6w

http://www.mediafire.com/i/?emgo41tdq40fm2i

These pictures were taken with my Desire HD with all the bells and whistles turned on, auto focus, auto flash ect....as you can see, the pictures on the camera are awful, the worse I have seen since 2006....Doesn't matter whether they are indoors, outdoor, flash off ect....they all look like this...what the heck is wrong ???
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Galaxy S picture...same settings (no flash of course)

http://www.mediafire.com/i/?crzu5y494ay2bj9

Way better camera....WAY better

Im really considering going back to my Galaxy S...Im also having the dreaded lag problem with the /INIT process...I have 4 friends with the same phone purchased at different times and places and all the camera pictures look like mine and have the lag issue now and again...terrible speaker volume, way worse than the Galaxy S...mmm maybe Ill sell it and wait for gingerbread...see what comes out of that..

Im starting to really dislike this phone as the days go by
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spaky:
Maybe your camera is not working as it would be, I don't have yet my DHD, but other users/reviews claims and showed (like SoloPalmari) good performance on that, probably SGS has a better sensor or noise reduction/exposure algorithms (I'm a photo lover trust me), but all in all for what I have saw the performance are not so bad as yours shots.

The main problem it shows was that it suffers from low-light condition, your indoor shots "says" that the camera was forced to use a long exposure time to take the shots also if there's a bit of light around.

This issues could be both software and hardware, for the hardware side the only reasons are:

- bad sensor pixel array (size of pixel reacting to light)

- not very luminous lens used i.e. above f/3.5-4.5

on the software side, they are related to poor iso and noise reduction-algorithms, keep in mind that iso depends a lot by the sensor's quality of course.

Anyway I've seen some test shots that looks good to me, (just to be clear usually I'm shotting with a Nikon D3 ;)):

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/fingers-on-shutters-for-our-htc-desire-hd-camera-test-50001240/

Someone else can post some samples to compare it with rixsta performance?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Ive also just noticed that if I hold the camera looking at the same thing then without even touching the screen it will zoom all the way in, you can see the slide bar on the left go straight from - to + without me doing anything...Im sure this is not right....
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wakers:
Some i've taken with my DHD this week

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/10862...hkey=Gv1sRgCO_Rq5vSguj2Ow#5534901662595691042

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/10862...hkey=Gv1sRgCO_Rq5vSguj2Ow#5534901881875018306

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/10862...hkey=Gv1sRgCO_Rq5vSguj2Ow#5534902065769719410

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/10862...hkey=Gv1sRgCO_Rq5vSguj2Ow#5534902228420238210
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faugusztin:
Did you leave ISO on Auto ? Set 100 or 200, use higher numbers only when you are in very dark. The first picture has a ISO-386 setting which is a stupid idea to use anytime except when you have bad light conditions. A good digital camera has a acceptable picture quality at ISO400 and higher, but we are talking about a phone.

If you want to know more, see this article, maybe you will understand then :

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/image-noise2.htm

In short - set ISO 100 or 200 and try to take those pictures again.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spaky:
I've read that you suffer also of proximity sensor issue, maybe your unit is assembled too bad and also lens/camera sensor is misaligned, so it force to focus all the time to find out correct focus point. This can justify very poor focus performance, still the controversial review of Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/photos/htc-desire-hd-sample-images) shows up some good (not excellent) shots in low-light condition, take a look to the bicycle saddle, is not a sunny day (note that they only do this kind of shots, no one in very good light condition....strange no?!? :D).

Anyway it's obvious that in low-light is not so good in all the shots, but on this side we can hope in a software improvement by HTC, if it is hardware no way :(

What I think is that the perfect phone all-in-one will never be real, my opinion of course, so you have to decide to stick with it and accept it's limits/defects or go back to SGS, which have it's own problems. It's a matter of personal preference and use. I need a GPS that works, maybe you need stellar camera performance,no one give us both, and I suspect that also the upcoming Nexus Two will have it's problems, where is the perfect one?!?! :confused:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Ive never had proximity sensor issues and the build quality of my phone is A1 and the camera is perfectly centred ...Ill try ISO 100/200 and post back the same pictures...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spaky:
Sorry my mistake, I thought you are the one that write "So it finally happened....", keep us updated with ISO tests.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Ok so Ive never messed with the ISO before, these pictures are taken with ISO at 100.

http://www.mediafire.com/i/?icpw4j7vc6s5wcy

http://www.mediafire.com/i/?q18yhdm2awkqkbb

http://www.mediafire.com/i/?ys1ca1wl2e2142o

http://www.mediafire.com/i/?tjer345fv2npy5h

One word...better ! Thanks faugusztin...still auto zooming in which is annoying as I have to zoom back out but it does look better.

EDIT...In fact much better.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vimto25:
No way those pics are poor nothing like the 1s mine produce!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faugusztin:
No problems, at least today you learned something new :).

And auto-zooming - no, my phone doesn't do anything like you describe.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spaky:
Those are far better, try to report the auto-zoom to HTC support, hope you can fix as soon as possible, I've a question for you, on video recording which are you're impressions and result? it always do the same, zoom in-out like in still pictures or just different behaviour?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
The video again isn't of the same quality as the Galaxy S which I sold but its pretty good, sometimes the sensor will go from light to dark slightly indoors which spoils the video somewhat.

Yes it will zoom in automatically when in 480p setting...720p stops it but thats only because there is no zoom
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sookster54:
Google for "phone explodes", usually it's the battery that explodes. Back in 2001 or 2002 a man in Hong Kong was holding his phone to his head and it exploded on him.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spaky:
Thanks on that, all in all I don't own any DHD nor SGS, but for my needs camera/video will be enough, also with it's flaws, on the other hand I've tried both DHD and SGS, and really don't like the Samsung Touchwiz implementation over Sense, and general build quality, on the performance side for what I've read they are head to head, you have experienced both devices and can say more on that.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SupremeBeaver:
wow the difference is like night and day!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Yeah beaver, much better mate.

EDIT !!! Ive just done a system update and the light to dark problems have gone...I need to test more AND the phone no longer auto zooms anymore.....what???

Ill post back soon to confirm.....
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spaky:
I'm glad to hear that from you,it seems that slowly some issues will be fixed by HTC. I'm starting to give it a thumbs up and order mine soon.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SupremeBeaver:
is this a new system update or the one HTC released a few weeks back?

anyway looking forward to your findings
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Ok things are different, Ive been messing with my camera all day and after the update I noticed a difference..no light to dark...its gone, tested in different lighting...it didnt happen once..

The auto zoom is still there though but not as bad....dont take this as a certainty though and give me grief over it hahaha...The real test will be tomorrow when there is more daylight and I can get outside...Ill hold my hands up if im wrong but it does seem much better than earlier and only after the update...

Report back tomorrow
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
No its a new one

1.32.405.6

There is a thread on xda about it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=826431
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wakers:
In fairness to HTC i think that 2 updates in a week is actually pretty quickly sorting out issue's :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spaky:
Yes, it's true, but someone else can say that it would have been nice if they hadn't had these issues, anyway good jobs from HTC so far!

It seems more quickly than Samsung...:D
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Totally agree...I myself am quick to moan about some of the DHD issues but its early days and like every Android phone or smartphone really, update fixes do come. I guess your never going to get a phone that works 100% out of the box...the more they put in these phones then the more likely it is that there will be problems...Im sure HTC will get it sorted...a lot quicker than Samsung as well.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SupremeBeaver:
Ah cool, did not see it. I hope it sorts out the proximity sensor issue.

But i must say im impressed with HTC's handling of software fixes.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faugusztin:
This. Coming from Milestone and Motorola's 5 month to fix a random reboot bug in 2.1 Milestone firmware, it's like heaven and hell.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yao Ng:
Not sure yet

I thought I would love it, but actually I'm disappointed.

Not so much with the hardware, but more with the software.

It's not slick. I get jerky behaviour and lag in places. Even with swiping on the home screens. However, I've tested a friend's Desire with Sense and it's fine. Clearly, HTC have more work to do with the Desire HD. It can appear from a swipe, to typing text to trying to using the Home or Back buttons. I get the tactile feedback but nothing happens for about 5 seconds.

The Gallery and Videos app pick up my DivX movies and if you accidently play one then it causes the phone to struggle. Rockplayer plays them beautifully, but anything else causes the phone to grind to a halt and become unusable. Some process is hanging causing Android to die.

The internet browser is nice, but why does it jump when you pinch and often to a different area I was pinching to.

Apart from that, the phone is great. A ton of potential, but clearly they need to iron out all the above. This is why the overall experience of an iPhone or Windows Phone 7 from day one is a lot better. However, I want the open source value from Android. I'll hold out a bit longer. Worse case I'll root it and stick vanilla Android on and wait for people to port the best HTC apps across (camera, Location, etc).

Yao
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wakers:
I would suggest somethings wrong mine's not like that at all...

Very slick...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dejongj:
Likewise, something is wrong with that phone it is ultra smooth and fast.

I've now done 5 full battery cycles and the battery life is pretty good for a smart phone. Mine now gets annoying as I want to do more battery cycles overnight but it is lasting too long :eek:

I actually really like this phone, if the camera was a bit sharper and Android (in general) would allow access to CalDav servers it would be close to perfect.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
The process you are talking about is called /INIT...

Download Watchtower from the market (its free)..next time your phone lags go into Watchtower and press processes and you will see the /INIT process is using 70 to 100% of your CPU..

I have a thread on this subject...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=826507
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
It seems not everyone has the /INIT process problem...or not yet experienced it.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freefalling2:
Disappointed and confused....

I've had the HD for 4 days now , my 1st Android phone (held out since Aug for upgrade) and still undecided.

1.Love the HTC interface.

2. Internet browsing is great on a big screen.

3.Like that you can change from QWERTY to PHONE keyboard (which I prefer)

4.It's big or rather wide especially noticeable when making calls, quite heavy & worry it'll slip & drop it.

5. 8mp camera - pitiful, complete RUBBISH, not sharp or defined, flash bleaches out image - even after tweaking image adjustments & no stabilisation (?). I've always had Sony camera phones so this a big let down (friend's iPhone is better).

6. Video capture - only tried indoors -a mixed bag of not so great quality.

7. Speaker volume is soo tinny and max is very very low.

8. Have yet to download film & music so can't comment yet (own a Mac).

9. Call sound is questionable and handsfree kit port caused noise which could be head at other end.

So decision is do I change for standard Desire (manageable size) or follow the sheep with an iPhone4 ? Or research Sony Android phones (for the better camera)

Advice anyone (only have 3 days of return window left)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freefalling2:
Disappointed and confused

Forgot to add my is poor build too... Sim cover doesn't close propetly leaving a gap, I have to constantly push back in.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbyphoenix:
Best phone yet. I came from a Nexus One, and this is way better. First off the call quality is so much better. That shocked me since the N1 has a noise canceling mic, and the DHD only has one mic. Speed. Way faster at everything. The screen at first seemed dull, but now it's sharp and crisp. I then looked at the N1, and now the N1 looks way over colored. I like the DHD's screen better. Build quality is top notch on mine. Everything is even. Even the sim cover gap! LOL Yes I have the gap, but it's even, and very small. Almost un-noticable. I actually tried putting it on a couple different ways, and once I actually got it to be perfect. No gap at all, but then tried again, and now have the smallest gap possible. Doesn't bother me. Just got it yesterday, so can't say much more about it, but for one day use I have no lag, no prox sensor issue, nothing wrong at all.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMango:
Have you checked this fix for the sim cover issue?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8979423
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PapaDocta:
how is the loud speaker compared to the N1?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] squalllion1uk:
Love the phone just want perma root and I shall be a happy camper.

My only issue is its to quiet but that definitely seems like a software rather than hardware limitation so can be fixed :).
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] who knows:
only problems i have is that the camera/video is ****e and the speakers are stupidly quiet
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Igor 3:
haha, thats like 50% of experience on the phone :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ethania:
Seams you have some strange issue then... Guess you are calling and texting the last 50%. Would put you in the same user category as my grandma.

I definitely isn't using the Camera and loudspeaker 50% of the day.

What do you count as the last 50%?

A few shots and a few calls using the speaker makes it like 5% for me.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbyphoenix:
Loud speaker is loud and clear!

Well I just did a test on both. Played some music. Same song, and both at max volume in a long quiet hallway. N1 is slightly louder. Both are clear, and I am able to understand them without any crackling. It's not enough of a difference to worry about. I left the phones on the ground, and walked about 20 feet away, and still heard both clearly without straining my ears. Also I tested some ringers. I actually had to check once because it rang so loud I though I had the volume at max, but it was only about half. It's more than enough for me.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Igor 3:
It sounded funny so I said it like that, I dont have the phone so I cant judge about the quality of camera/video and speakers. But that definitely is is 50% If the speakers are bad you call quality is low and listening to the music should be bad also. During movies also....Im not saying it is, but you understand what i mean, it effects everything. The same goes for video/camera. And yeah, making calls, listening to the music, taking few shots, browsing internet is what I and most of us only do. So definetly 50%