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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Cinas:
Success at last!!!

I successfully updated via wifi as per the directions here and one the first try. That raaaaaarely happens for me lol. Anywho, it took around 45 minutes and I wasn't sure it was updating correctly at first and it really gave me now indication that I was.

After checking for update 3 times (the first 2 downloads taking about 3-5 minutes) the third download took around 30minutes and the reboot another 6 or so..it hung on the Android splash screen for an excruciating 9 minutes before finally booting and showing me the awesomeness that my phone can be now! The live backgrounds are awesome, my apps are all working well now and it seems all is finally well with my Zio that was pretty much a $300 paperweight as of yesterday.

So, be patient friends and good luck. It's totally worth the effort. The wait was a little bit rediculous though...ahem....Cricket..........
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] crack311:
I was patient and my phone bricked. Due to my phone freezing the phone has a decent nic on it from not having a case on it. I had a case but the case broke after taking the battery out hundreds of times because the phone froze up. Also the red strip on the phone came off due to removing the back cover to remove the battery also due to the phone freezing. I went to a cricket store and they wouldn't help me for these reasons. They said to contact Kyocera... Funny Right. I have no phone to contact them with now. I am really pissed off that this update bricked my phone. I even reset my phone before I made this update and had the battery at full charge and had it plugged in. I will be Reporting Cricket to BBB for this issue. Oh yeah also if I didnt have that nic or missing red sticker I would of had to pay 20 dollars. Cricket has poor customer service.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Cinas:
I have to agree with you there. Its such a shame too. Very disappointing. Sorry to hear about your brick.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rosco77:
I messed up my phone when experimenting with backing up uninstalling system files. If you download the updater file from the zsclusive facebook page you should be able to fix it. It was leaked by a member of a corporate office. It is the same software they use to fix customers phones when they mess them up. worked like a charm for me and now i can experiment with my phone all i want because i can restore it myself if i screw it up.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] topherdownfrown:
Does anyone know if the accelerometer issue is happening with the ota update the same as the leaked update?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kobe_24:
Nothing about this phone in ages, is it still worth getting now?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dEris:
Wait a few more days and cricKet will have a LG Optimus C. That phone is actually decent.

[ Sent from an LG Optimus V ]
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kobe_24:
$80 was too good to pass up, plus I'll keep this one till the really good phones with large screens become available for Cricket.:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sirholiday:
Slow GPS

Has anyone else noticed that it takes forever to find GPS when running android 2.2?

Ever since I updated it gps takes forever to acquire satellite.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] topherdownfrown:
My sister got the optimus.. Smaller screen.. Same speed processor.. Same camera... Why would I want it over this .. Just asking.. Really have no regrets about picking the zio
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] spideyngo:
Big Buttons keyboard search

I did a search and all I came up with was hip hop honeys with big butts. JK
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
no. you can't. i've installed it. it won't play.

audio, but black screen - if i'm lucky.

it's not compatible w/ the zio/zio on 1.6...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Uthboth:
Random Person: Will the zio have a upgrade to android 2.2 anytime soon??

October 25 at 1:47pm

Cricket Wireless: Update planned for the end of the year. Exact OS to be determined.

October 25 at 1:50pm

Taken from a facebook post. I hope it comes out before the end of the year. Would hate to see it get pushed back over and over again.

I'm a new user so I can't post links to outside of the forums. If you take a look at Crickets facebook page, people ask about the zio being upgraded a lot.

P.S. I have the angry birds downloaded as well on my zio and it does not work. I talked to Rovio about it and it's a known issue on some phones running 1.6. It was recommended to upgrade to 2.1 and that should fix the blackscreen problem. So that's another reason to hope for an update soon.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] alpha412:
well the reason cricket has no idea when or what the 2.1 update is well it is because kyocera works in its own company so come on guys I know yous can do it we belive in yous

:)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jcaf77:
true! try pandas vs ninjas! its just like angry birds, but its angry pandas instead :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
i'll have to check that out. maybe it'll keep me entertained until The Day 2.1 Came To The Cricket Zio (tm, patent pending)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] killa619:
Just got angry birds from the market!love it!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Uthboth:
They did a massive update to Angry Birds and now it works on the Zio from Cricket. Now I'm waiting for Cricket to do an update so I can try out Pocket Legends. :/
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sra502:
Went inside corporate store yesterday they claim the upgrade (no date as of yet) will be performed in store. Just an fyi...

I'm a newbie to android. Be gentle :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
I am not sure anyone at Cricket (anyone the public can speak to anyway) knows anything about the upgrade. I am also certain that none of their customer support or tech support people will know much about it until at least eight to nine months AFTER its release and at least two to three months AFTER everyone has upgraded to it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] phazei:
Do we have any recourse if they just decide to never come out with it? Would a class action suit be possible? They essentially lied to us.

On top of that, they are in violation of breach of license with their OS. They have refused to provide the source for the phone which is required as it is GPL/Apache.

I suggest as many people as possible as possible contact them about providing the source and informing them they are illegally withholding the source from us.

http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/contact/product-sales.htm

http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/contact/technical-support.htm

http://www.mycricket.com/contactus

I don't know which form would be best to use, but I'd say use all and hopefully someone higher up with get wind of it. I'd say call, but with cricket you will never get anyone important.

Edit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_Wireless#Violation_of_GPL

Because I can, and it's true.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
I

Lets not start getting paranoid and spreading rumors here. Both Kyocera and Cricket maintain that an upgrade is coming in January. No one has any official denial of an update from anyone so talks of that and lawsuits are very premature at this point. It does no good to start drama and jump the gun on this.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] phazei:
That's true, drama is unnecessary, I agree.

But aside from the upgrade, are they not in violation of the GPL? They did not distribute the source with the binaries, nor have they provided a method to obtain them. They have been contacted and responded that it was proprietary and they would not provide the source. Besides being a violation, it's also rather rude to all the developers who put their time in developing Android for everyone to use.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
I am affraid that i am not qualified to answer any questions on the agreements Cricket has with Google or Kyocera that may or may not effect their obligation to distribute the source code. We can make assumptions based on the general public understanding of the GPL and rumors on blog sites, but i know things go on behind corporate doors that i am not always pivilaged to and i am not a lawyer.

What I do know is, as far as the update goes, they have been fairly consistant in saying "Early next year". That is all i can say.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] arbuckle18:
You could always download a new keyboard that better suits your needs. I enjoy my ZIO even though it seems to be getting a bit buggy lately... :/
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] vengeance937:
so been tinkering with zio an found htc heros roms work on it.... 2.1 on it is a blast but official release will work way better
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] vengeance937:
the zio gets buggy with over population of apps (like most androids) best bets use an abuse the advanced app killer on it. made my battery last 2 whole days (constant use(texting, calling,net) an stayed alive). im also running beautiful widgets an such an still fully responsive
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
So does everything work or what's it like
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
More details, mon.

I mean, phone works, etc? (do they use the same radio version, etc?) What ROMs?

Are you hanging out in #openzio on freenode?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] XboxOmac:
CricKet really needs to do this. I want to get ROMS so badly for the Zio, but without at least one update, its pretty worthless.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hlaalu:
Hi guys, I work for cricket and thought I would share some information with you.

The zio will not be getting 2.1 :(

BUT! it will be getting 2.2 this winter. :D

edit: if i remember i'll post up the email i got about it tomorrow when i get to my computer at work :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] phillipthe3:
Ok cool
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
Yea lets see that email.. I don't believe this at all
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
show me the money...er, email.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
Knowing cricket we wont get a goddamn thing
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hlaalu:
here is the pdf that was sent to me to compare the two androids that cricket has. under the zio it clearly says 2.2 coming this winter. it's also been confirmed to me in person and by email from a reliable source.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] echobinary:
Anyone can make a PDF. I would be _very_ happy (as would anyone else owning a Kyocera Zio to get 2.2 this winter. But - I would love to see some proof ot see how I can get in touch with the people who know this for sure. Having read other posts - even CriKet employees & Kyocera too - all don't even know what's going on as evidenced by someone calling up and asking the same question lots of times - as many times as they reported calling they got as many different answers. Unless you are personal buddies with someone at CriKet/Kyocera and they told you this over dinner - I would be skeptical.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade- I just require more proof than a PDF anyone can make. Theres nothing "official" about it... and it came out of the blue... and it flies in the face of even everything we've been hearing thus far.

All this said - I would love more than anything to be made into a needless critic. As said above - "Show me the money!" as it were. eg: Lets please see some real evidence :)

@echobinary -- #openzio@irc.freenode.net

Open Development of the Zio
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] echobinary:
which ROMs specifically? And are you able to make phone calls on criKet? I am very curious to see what you did and how you did it. But mostly _what_ you did - I can look up _how_ on google or on the forums here..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hlaalu:
I don't know where you live, but this PDF was sent to me so I can show customers the difference between the two android devices. Each market is different though but luckily my market is a "test" market so we usually get the new stuff before everyone else. The PDF is not suppose to be a secret, I'll show it to anyone who walks in my stores and asks.

What "proof" would you like me to present? I'm not going to share my personal emails with you and the rest of the world and jeopardize my, and my source's jobs. And I am most certainly not going to give you the phone number of my source so you can call her for yourself.

Oh I seriously laughed out loud when you mentioned someone calling cricket over and over and asking them. They are seriously the worse and never know anything! I sometimes have to call them to help customers and I'm usually the one telling them what to do and how to do it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] garmaekawa:
Thanks for the heads-up!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
So the pdf has pretty accurate info ab each but the huawei can't play flash, I know 2.1 supports it but phone can't handle it. It just says android 2.2 this winter.. is that 2011 2012 2010? You could show us an email or anything just redact your and your sources info

Edit: we've had other "cricket" employees tell us it was coming in a week like 6 weeks ago, so ya gotta feel where we're coming from.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hlaalu:
Yup like I said, the sheet is designed to help us sell the ZIO over the Ascend. The ZIO costs a lot more so it's really hard to get people to buy it, even though it's a superior device. I've yet to see a problem with the ZIO, besides the hiccup the first batch had with the data connection. I did have one Ascend come back to me the next day because the screen glitched and had a permanent line across it.

Anyways, give me a few days and I'll see if I can get you guys a better time frame than "this winter". I'll post up the response I get, but please don't ask me to provide any names.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
Yeah man np names are not needed just a time frame of some sort because nobody at cricket/kyocera can seem to give an actual timeframe or if it will even happen
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] James80:
Thanks for your time and patience.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] schmizz:
Mixed Feelings

I bought my Zio at the end of September for $229. At least once a week it would freeze up and tech supp would have me reset the phone, which would wipe out everything on it. Than a few weeks ago the phone just died on me. The corporate store replaced the phone for me, but I had to pay a $20 processing fee. Less than a week later they dropped the phone price to $179. The new phone has worked pretty well so far except occasional network freezes where I have to remove the battery to get the internet to work again. I feel kind of screwed, but if they release 2.2 for it I won't feel as screwed.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
I have problems with internet not being responsive sometimes too, what I do is load the power widget and hit the refresh button and it works like a charm
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rudebeats:
same prb wit my internet too.. i jus go into my wireless settings, then mobile network... then disable data connection and then enable it.. it works den.. but my bluetooth does not work at all!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] s23bog:
Bluetooth

I have repeatedly had problems with my Bluetooth. I tried just about everything, and it didn't work at all for at least a month. I finally took it in to a Cricket store, and the lady pulled the battery for about 15 seconds (a feat I had done numerous times) and it has worked fine for a few days now (knock on wood).

I am convinced she used some kind of voodoo or something.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Spz0:
This may be common knowledge for most, but restarting your phone once a day will dramatically increase performance, as well as help with freezing. I've had my zio for months now, and it has only froze once.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sra502:
I turn my zip off overnight. I agree with u.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chris.ana25:
Does any one no how to flash clock work recovery on the zio
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cuāuhtli:
Kyocera Zio cricket upgrade 1.6 thread

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] cuāuhtli:
Depending on the amount of responses per page

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Poler166:
i got an email from kyocera

kyocera finaly email me back it was about time ... this is what they said about the update

Dear Ricardo, Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc. This email message is in response to your inquiry regarding when the Sanyo Zio will be getting the 2.2 update. The Cricket Zio will have the Android 2.1 update first early next year. We do not have information yet when the Android 2.2 udpate will be available. If you have any further questions, or are interested in purchasing, or information on accessories for your Kyocera Communications Inc. phone, please contact us at any of the phone numbers listed below: -E-Mail: phone-help@kyocera-wireless.com-Phone: (800) 349-4478 (Toll-free USA and Canada only)-International Access: (858) 882-1401 (Outside the USA)-Fax: (858) 882-1717
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xmicroman:
Just got off phone with cricket they told me to go to http://diplodriver.com/download/driver/kyocera/viom6000 or http://www.kyoceraviom6000.com/ both pages not found. He said we have update to 2.1 I think he was crazy wth both pages not found. Wow the tech support ppl are having fun with us huh.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
Just another ill-informed tech support monkey, I'm afraid.

I think they misunderstood you when you asked about updating the phone -or what is meant by "update"

That site (http://diplo-driver.com/download-driver/KYOCERA/ZIO-M6000 (forgot a "-" in there)) has the PC drivers to connect to the phone via the Kyocera desktop software.

"software to update the phone" vs "update the phone software" kind of thing :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
My first question would have been why he is spelling it "Vio" in the links when the name is "Zio"? Isn't "Vio" a Sony Lapotop? (Oh wait that is Vaio...nevermind).

Anyway, the official Zio website is actually this:

http://www.ziobykyocera.com

I have no clue what that other crap he was thinking is...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xmicroman:
Exactly I did have my hopes up for a second though. Were taught to believe what where told doh!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] s23bog:
Bluetooth

I think I may know why I was having trouble with Bluetooth (knock on wood). I think it was because I was listening to music with Bluetooth on. I think that when I received calls, it put the Bluetooth in a funky state that it was really hard to bring out of.

Anyhow, not really on topic, but I mentioned my problems earlier in this thread, and thought that maybe I could get some collaboration on my findings, and/or help someone else out.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chris.ana25:
Does anybody know how to start a new thread
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] deathsled:
You aren't going to get any worthwhile information from Cricket tech support. They are all outsourced Indian script readers paid $5 a day. It took 10 phone calls to tech support to get them to change me to the correct plan....you aren't going to speak to anyone who knows what Cricket management (here in the US) is up to. If they tell you anything it's just to get you to shut up and stop asking questions and to save face and make it seem like they aren't complete idiots.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
go to the parent category ("android software hacking and hacking general" or whatever. please choose an appropriate section), click "new thread" at the top
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] s23bog:
Remember this?

Offer it this week?!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
Maybe India time is different than the rest of the world time?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] z3r0t0l0rEnCe:
I'm wondering if cricket is actually going to release this update at all. We all keep getting the same run around answers.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aj203355:
I'm not getting my hopes up. I see them releasing the update mid or late January.

Sent from my zio on cricket through XDA app.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ICPnICUP:
so which one is better? the sanyo or ascend?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chris.ana25:
I liked the Sanyo better. I had it but I needed a bigger screen.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
Hey how is it having a flashed droid on cricket is the internet stable and market?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] chris.ana25:
Its pretty good, the Guy who flashed it didn't do the 3g right or some thing like that, its fast for not being on 3g, i gotta take it to get fixed still. Everything works fine my pix and everything. Once i get the evdo on instead of 1x. Ill let u know. ,
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] XCmaster:
Android update for Sanyo Zio

I had just received this email this morning from Kyocera Tech Support:

Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc. This email message is in response to your inquiry regarding the availability of the Android OS update for the Sanyo Zio.

The Android OS update will be available on January 2011.

If you have any further questions, or are interested in purchasing, or information on accessories for your Kyocera Communications Inc. phone, please contact us at any of the phone numbers listed below:

-E-Mail: phone-help@kyocera-wireless.com

-Phone: (800) 349-4478 (Toll-free USA and Canada only)

-International Access: (858) 882-1401 (Outside the USA)

-Fax: (858) 882-1717

Please help us improve our service by answering the survey. Just click the link below:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zyrtek69:
I actually do believe this, because this is what they've been saying from the beginning.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] aago1254:
Dear Aaron,

Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc. This email message is in response to your inquiry when the firmware update will be available for your Sanyo Zio M6000 phone.

The firmware update will be available on February 2011, unfortunately it will not be for the version 2.2 but just for the version 2.1.

If you have any further questions, or are interested in purchasing, or information on accessories for your Kyocera Communications Inc. phone, please contact us at any of the phone numbers listed below:

-E-Mail: phone-help@kyocera-wireless.com

-Phone: (800) 349-4478 (Toll-free USA and Canada only)

-International Access: (858) 882-1401 (Outside the USA)

-Fax: (858) 882-1717

Thank you for contacting Kyocera Communications Inc.

Eric,

Technical Support Specialist

Kyocera Communications Inc.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] xmicroman:
and the survey says...

Sent from my Zio using tin cans and string