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[Touch CDMA Android Development] ghghgh14702:
I am able to get the wifi to start and find my network, but when it gets to obtaining ip address it sits for a while then starts all over again. has anyone else had this issue? I am using the .32 zimage and I even took the wlan.ko from the rls 15 build (that works) and it does the exact same thing thing.
[Touch CDMA Android Development] tarek.htc:
hi toasty, sorry but where can i have this kernel from?
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
I'm pretty excited about this phone and after scouring the internet tonight, I can't find **** on new information. It looks like it was showed at the WP7 launch and that's it.

Dell's being very hush hush and that's just making me more and more impatient!

Anyway, are you buying a Venue Pro? :D
[Venue Pro General] StaticPlaya:
Yes! I have pre-ordered it on Clove. Been looking for a Micro SD card to go with the phone. I am hoping that it can take a class 4 Micro SD as I have my eye on a 32gb SD card to complement the phone.

Roll on 8th November. Hoping that it does not get pushed back but with all of these infromation leaks from Clove it is look more like a reality.
[Venue Pro General] SingaporeAirlines:
Will want to try the keyboard first. The screen is probably near perfect.

The Dell Venue Pro would have been perfect (for me) if it had:

1) HTC Locations (/ maps)

2) HTCSense.com functionality

3) Flash (as per the HTC Desire HD)
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Yeah, I'm also digging the HTC Hub stuff. I bet some XDA devs will be able to port it.

Flash is on the way in Jan 2011, last I heard.:D
[Venue Pro General] he3:
I was planning to get the Dell Nov 8. However I read it won't be available stateside on Nov 8. So I'm looking into a plan B.

Plan C might be a Desire HD. I hope it doesn't co e to that.
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
I switch to tmobile for it. Pre ordered from Clove but now it seems there version won't support tmobile 3G so emailed to cancel :mad: guess I will have to wait. Had picked up a g2 for now but took it back and got the Vibrant. Great phone so I am content for a moment. I like the Vibrant even more than my Captivate I had. Thought they were the same but the tmobile tweaks are great
[Venue Pro General] tai4de2:
My guess is that there's just a single model coming out, and it's intended for TMOUS.

HOWEVER, in addition to their own oddball 3G frequencies, TMOUS smartphones generally support world standard (European/Asian) ones also. This enables TMOUS customers to use the phone overseas. Recent example: TMOUS HD2.

So, except for any SIM lock issues, the TMOUS Dell Venue is probably good to go on European networks, and that a "European" Venue Pro is probably a TMOUS one in disguise.

Again, all just a guess.
[Venue Pro General] njao:
yes yes and yes

im getting it if it ever gets over seas to Sweden :P its the perfect phone for me! though it could have been slimmer XD
[Venue Pro General] hmarcus:
I plan on getting this if I'm not totally blown away with Gingerbread and/or the new myTouch HD, whichever comes first. This looks like a joy to use. The large 4.1" AMOLED and the portrait qwerty. Looks like they read my mind. Also it WILL have expandable memory, it's similar to the Samsung where you'd hard reset it and it'll recognize the sd card. The caveat is you'll lose all your data every time you change sd cards.

Only wish it supported HSPA+ and had the newer procs. But since I'm connected via wifi more often than not, it doesn't matter much to me, tho it would be nice. As far as the older chips, it could be powered by a hamster and wheel as long as it doesn't hiccup once, I'll be more than happy.
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
I think it's being released late Nov. as opposed to Nov 8th.

EDIT: Anyone have past experience with Dell phones? How was the build quality / support? I've never owned anything other than HTC smart phones.
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
This is the first dell phone :p. They've had handheld devices before (pocket PC's) but the build quality and overall product was terrible (they didn't put much effort into them). This phone is a completely different direction for Dell. Build quality is superb, it's worth every penny.

And unlocked versions are expected to be available in the UK as of November 8.
[Venue Pro General] D_monie3:
Battery Life

I am really thinking bout getting this over the HD7, but some reviews were saying that it may have 3 hours of talk time?!!!! If this is at all true with an AMOLED screen, then wow. I know Dell computer batteries suck, hope they used another company for their batteries. I know it isn't out yet, but what are your guys thoughts?
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
As far as build quality goes, if it feels great at the sotre, then I'll def buy it. I'm mostly looking forward to the stereo speakers and 4.1 inch screen. I've always felt that 4.3 inches might be a little too big for me.

No one has had the Venue Pro in their hands since the WP7 launch day. If you check YouTube, all you'll find are videos of that Dell lady demoing the phone for everyone.

Wherever you heard this 3 hour rumor, I call bullsh**.
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
Dell computer batteries suck? Wtf have you been buying. My 3 year old Dell Latitude D630 still gets a good 6-7 hours of battery life.

No one has even received a review unit of the DVP yet, so it would be impossible for anyone to conclude that battery life is only 3 hours.

The microsoft site states that the battery life is 7 hours with 14 hours of standby time (if I am reading it correctly).
[Venue Pro General] D_monie3:
Alright, thanks. Yea, the site I usually go on just changed their info to 7 hours too. Thats really the only worry I had about the phone.
[Venue Pro General] Silent Shark:
I'd disagree. I had an Axim X5 and an X50v, and I found the build quality to be fantastic. They were solidly built, hard wearing and all round well designed. Pretty much everything about them gave the impression of solidity. I still have the X50v and the only signs of it being 6 years old is a small amount of the chrome paint has come off the centre button and the battery is knackered (this would happen to any 6-year-old Li-ion battery). When I sold the X5 it had no signs of wear at all. I'm fully expecting the Venue Pro to be the same.
[Venue Pro General] Toleraen:
I really love the form factor of this phone. Having a full screen with a slideout keyboard that doesn't go to landscape mode would be perfect! Two issues:

1) The TMo data network in my area, while 3G, is pretty poor

2) Same ol' 1GHz snapdragon processor

So switch to CDMA and toss in one of those fancy dual core Snapdragons and I'll be in line on launch day :D
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Yeah, I am liking the idea of possibly being able to QUICKLY type out a text message with just one hand. If it had a landscape keyboard, it wouldn't be easy to do that.
[Venue Pro General] bigsro:
I have a Dell Streak - and the build quality is brilliant. Its really very very good. If the Venue Pro is anything like that then it will be excellent Im sure.

Battery life on the Streak isnt anything to shout about but its a 5" screen and I had it running some live wallpapers.

I had a play with a HD7 in my local O2 shop and now Im torn! Windows Phone 7 is slick as a bag of oiled up ferrets!
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Yep.. all MS needs to do is get an update sent out with a lot of the missing features we all want/need.
[Venue Pro General] rvv:
I am definitely buying this phone. It is for me the ideal phone with good size screen, AMOLED, memory expansion, usable keyboard, and fresh and functional OS. What is not to like. It will be replacing my HD2 running Android 2.2 and my nexus One.

Can't wait until I see it the stores near me...
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
I really hope that they come out with a Canadian version...it's a shame that the 3G bands on the version listed on the US WP7 site and the UK sites are incompatible.
[Venue Pro General] tissot201:
The US version should be compatible with Wind and Moblicity.
[Venue Pro General] GeneNZ:
Looks like the Dell Venue Pro release has been pushed back by 8 days according to Clove.

"Official Dell Launch on the 8th November with first stock now due on the 16th November. 3G frequencies 900 / 2100 now confirmed".

That's sad because I want the Venue Pro, but need to get a contract sorted.
[Venue Pro General] Jim Coleman:
Annoying but few phones ship on the official launch day I guess.

Gives me more time to finish making my first game for the Marketplace though :O)
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
G

Yeah I ordered a HTC Hd7 should be here for the 8th from lets talk. I really want the Venue but will use the HD to get my wp7 until it finally releases
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
Unfortunately no...

Wind has a AWS/1700 Mhz/BandIV network and the Venue Pro does not support that.

Moblicity is AWS 1700/2100 however it's only available in Toronto. I live in Ottawa, thus Moblicity is not an option for me ...

I don't think the Dell Venue Bro is UMTS Band IV.

Edit: AWS is probably 1700/2100 as well, however once again, I can't find any evidence to backup the Dell Venue Pro being compatible with that. Ya it says UMTS 900 and 2100, but what does that mean o.O?

I think you need both 1700 and 2100 for it to work. I DON'T GET THIS!
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Ignore the 2100 part. The first band is all that really matters since most carriers operate on 2100.
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Got a link to some info on it? I'm curious now lol
[Venue Pro General] tissot201:
Correct if I'm wrong but T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 and if the Venue is coming out for T-Mobile it has to be 1700/2100.

Moblicity has this crazy offer right now where you get everything unlimited, yes that includes data and long distance (US/Canada) for $35
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Lol, I wouldn't believe it.
[Venue Pro General] tissot201:
Wouldn't believe that Venue going to T-Mobile, T-Mobile 1700/2100 or Moblicity offer?

I need to make a decision soon. The moblicity deal ends soon and I was always under the assumption that T-Mobile does 3g under 1700/2100 and when the Venue comes out for T-Mobile, it would work under 1700/2100.
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
Well what makes no sense is that according to the US Windows Phone website...the dell venue pro is 900/2100...which MAKES NO SENSE if the phone is supposed to come out "exclusively for T-Mobile."

I am VERY CONFUSED by this.

I wish Dell would clarify this because it is really irritating.

Why couldn't the damn UK version just be 900/1700/2100? I would be SO HAPPY and pre-order right away if that was the case. But I really don't want to buy something if it's not going to work with Wind Mobile in Canada.
[Venue Pro General] tissot201:
I think that might be a mistake on the website. I believe 900 does not work on any US/Canadian carriers.
[Venue Pro General] Adam86:
Does anyone know if this phone has a notification LED?
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Without a doubt I am buying one. Some pics here: http://techielobang.com/blog/2010/10/23/first-encounter-with-dell-venue-pro-windows-phone-7-device/ PS not related to the question above.
[Venue Pro General] Silent Shark:
I don't see anything in that link that confirms a LED. There is something towards the top of the phone, but that could just be the proximity sensor.

Or have I missed something?
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
I was actually responding to the question posed by the OP, not to the question on an LED.
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Okay the problem with all these sites offering preorders is that, just like us, most of them don't know the official specs. For US, it will have to be 1700/2100. I know that much. Dell hasn't said anything about the Venue since the initial outing at the WP7 event.
[Venue Pro General] Silent Shark:
Ah, gotcha. My mistake :o .
[Venue Pro General] vanmarr:
Pre-order Dell Veue Pro

I ordered mine on expansys.co.uk

18 Days delivery so that would be the 16th of Nov.
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
Hope you don't live in the US...otherwise you are screweeedddd.
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
It's possible that phone will not support the 1700 band needed for T-Mo USA. You should cancel that purchase immediately. If you live in the USA, that is.
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
Also,

You won't be getting that phone on the 16th of November.

You misread.

You PRE-ORDERED the device.

The device is due to be received by expansys on November 16th. Then it will take probably 1-2 weeks for them to ship it to you if you live in the US.

Again, as Eric mentioned, cancel the order if you live in the US as there is a high likelihood that it does not support the US 3G bands (1700/2100).
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
My lust for this device persists. Already pre ordered the hd7. Just re preordered the Venue from expanyse also. At this point I don't care if its just edge. Have wifi 90% of the time. When the t mobile 3g hits will just upgrade and eBay the European 3g one. That's the plan and sticking to it :) somedays I like a keyboard somedays I don't. Will switch between the two
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
...wow...who needs two smart phones lmao.
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
I have issues. No wife no kids. Just my dog and my phones at the moment. Sad yes I know LOL
[Venue Pro General] gibbyhome:
the engadget show had a dell venue pro on that they played with and said that it would be the phone that they would jump ship with over the droid x

great phone just hope they have a sd slot and it comes out very soon in the US
[Venue Pro General] gibbyhome:
Yup, I agree and its all coming

from what I have been reading that cut and paste, unify messaging and I have also heard that some hubs will have multi tasking...

I have to say that microsoft is really listening to end users this time around

when they anounced this back in march there was none of this ? but everything

that has been asked of they are working on ...

at this point they are going to do what every we want...

I hope..
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
I really am trying to hold out for this phone and a Nexus Two.. so long as it's made by HTC.
[Venue Pro General] xxnoelziexx:
I ordered mine today being in the market for a new phone and I have to say I have always liked windows mobile OS even with the dated look and sluggish feel. The venue Pro was the only option for me I can't stand touch screen only devices.

Ordered from Clove UK.
[Venue Pro General] jcoob:
RANT WARNING! <<user discretion is advised<<

I was literally minutes away from ordering this phone from handtec when the Dell customer service rep finally got back to me regarding the repair of my Studio 1555 laptop. I've been having intermittent issues with my touchpad for the past 2 weeks, there seems to be some internal connection issue as it works whenever I apply pressure to a certain area.

Basically, they said they couldn't help me with the problem as my warranty expired 3 weeks ago!!! ****. For real? I mean I got this piece of **** just last year and it worked perfectly throughout only to FAIL 2 weeks after my warranty expires.

I told the rep guy to contact his supervisor as this is some crazy ass thievery. I mean I never believed all the ****** up stories I heard about products failing just outside warranty. And They want $130 to repair it! I even told them that I was just considering purchasing the new Venue Pro whenever they finally release it! I was basically a freelance product evangelist, pitching the phone to my friends (3 of us were going to preorder from handtec)

The crazy thing is I still want this phone. But if this is the quality of Dell laptops is , i just can't imaging what their phones would be like giving that they have NO experience with handhelds. WTF?

No wonder they offer 1 year warranties when other brands like acer, asus & htc offer 2 year warranties. They no their product is going to FAIL after 1 year.

Seriously y'all. **** DELL.

My advice? BE very very cautious of they only offer a 1 year warranty. Who knows? Your battery might explode the week after it's done

<<PHEW

Got that out of my system

MOD EDIT: PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE
[Venue Pro General] the_scotsman:
That is why Dell offer extended warranties on their laptops, and why you should spend the little bit extra on them.

And you can't base the quality of the venue Pro on the basis of one faulty touchpad on your laptop.

I've been using Dell laptops for years, and currently have the XPS 16, and haven't ever had an issue with it. I find the build quality to be rather good actually.

It would be a shame to miss out on such a good looking phone because of a faulty laptop touchpad.
[Venue Pro General] xxnoelziexx:
Every manufacture has a high rate of failure even the best of them. If I am buying anything of value I will extend the warranty if possible or add it to my contents insurance.

The life cycle of handsets vary from person adding different using conditions is a big factor. Dell usually have good warranty & support to back it up. I am sorry to hear you have had a bad experience but a laptop would have got an upgrade on the warranty as standard it is not that more from dell and gives you the extra piece of mind. I would try and call them again and see if there is a better price you can get for the repair.

Maybe an alternative root would be to look at replacing the track pad yourself, From past experience I know the palm rest (track pad) Is a single unit and can be purchased from various places on the web and will be cheaper than what dell have quoted. I am sure there are even tutorials dismantling the laptop.

Back to the topic order confirmation received from clove can't wait now hopefully we only have to wait a few more weeks.

For some other videos of the DVP check out Dell Venue Pro: A First Look at

http://www.sizzledcore.com/2010/11/01/dell-venue-pro-windows-phone-7-review/

there is also some new videos of it in action too.
[Venue Pro General] Jim Coleman:
There's no need to extend warranties, the Sale of Goods Act states that goods have to be of merchanizable quality and must last a "reasonable" period of time. Just over one year is not reasonable, therefore you have a case if you take it to the Small Claims Court. Threaten them with that.
[Venue Pro General] Silent Shark:
It's might also be worth mentioning that the Venue Pro won't be 'made' by Dell themselves, but by Qisda.

Plus my parents had a Dell laptop for 4 years and it never had any problems, despite being the cheapest Inspiron in the range. I've also had 2 Dell PDAs in the past, the first lasting 2 years without a hiccup until I sold it, and the second being 5-6 years old now and still no issues.

Sorry to hear about your problems, but as said above, you can't judge the company based on one incident like this, at least not on build quality anyway. Sometimes, it's just bad luck.
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
Stop extrapolating your experience to the experience of all dell users. I've been using dell products for years and have had 0 problems whatsoever.

And they've had plenty of experience with handhelds.
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Never heard of Qisda. Do they manufacture most of Dell's hardware?

FWIW, I've had two dell computers, one laptop, and three monitors. All worked flawlessly. What does concern me, however, is Dell's customer support.
[Venue Pro General] Silent Shark:
Qisda are the new name of BenQ, if you've heard of them...

I'm not sure if they make anything else for Dell, or anything else of note for anyone else. They probably do, it's just we aren't aware of it. I've had a bit of experience with BenQ monitors in the past, and they've always been good.
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Ohhh yeah, BenQ had some pretty nice monitors.
[Venue Pro General] Super Chimp:
Is this phone still due to be released on the 15th November?
[Venue Pro General] Jim Coleman:
16th, apparently
[Venue Pro General] Super Chimp:
Thanks. According to Clove it gets an official launch before this on the 8th.
[Venue Pro General] Jim Coleman:
Yep, I think the 16th is when Clove expect to actually receive stock. Let's hope the global parts shortages don't impact on that date!
[Venue Pro General] Super Chimp:
I wonder if this is what has effected the launch onto SIM free of the Omnia 7?
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
I want my tmo version nao!!! the hd7 is sooo immanent though
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Yeah I know what you mean, but HTC's lack of quality parts is sitting in the back of my mind. I'm tired of their crappy cameras and 10 cent speakers, for example.
[Venue Pro General] ericc191:
Why isn't it up on Microsoft's store? I had my credit card out and everything, too. :confused:
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
yeah this is such bull****...i am mean really lol (like the commericial)
[Venue Pro General] leepenguin:
When can i use venue in Canada with Fido?
[Venue Pro General] rob_p:
Just got an email from Expansys in the UK to confirm that the pre-order I put in is now ready to confirm and they expect to ship within 8 days.
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
I had a pre order with expansys USA. Haven't heard from them yet. Going to call Microsoft at 8 eastern
[Venue Pro General] Jim Coleman:
Nothing from Clove yet but they were £60 cheaper than Expansys though. Clove's website still lists a 16 Nov delivery date, which is in line with Expansys.
[Venue Pro General] rob_p:
Expansys are selling at £440 (I seem to remember they originally listed £499 a while ago) which seems to be a good price - SuperETrader are at that price, and clove seem to be also.
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
they will direct you to presales

and presales isn't open till about 8 am PST or 11 am EST
[Venue Pro General] rob_p:
Just seen rumours on twitter that there won't be an SD Card slot, seems to be confirmed on Dell US Site?

http://www.dell.com/us/p/mobile-venue-pro/pd

Under tech specs, says Storage: 8GB, 16GB (not removable).

That would be a real bummer!
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
US dell barely knows when it will be released

just spoke to my dell rep...no idea =(
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
It's the 15th...that was already leaked.
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
Just got off with Microsoft pre sales and still no go. She didn't even know what I was talking about. This is crazy. Guess the tmonews was wrong
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
****. Damnit...I wanted to see a review of the device today =.=.
[Venue Pro General] richlee111:
I was just at their store in the Chicago area. They said the Venue Pro did not come in yet. They expect them sometime this week.
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
They really dropped the ball on this one. I am done hunting and will play with my hd7. When the Venue gets in it gets in :rolleyes: this is crazy
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
nope..they didn't..

people got it:
[Venue Pro General] richlee111:
My bad, but I just found out that the Oak Brook, IL store is the ONLY store that does not have them in stock right now. Apparently they had a shipment issue, but will be getting them in midweek.
[Venue Pro General] Se4nH4x:
Buy an unlocked 16 GB one with 900/1700/2100 3G bands and sell it to me. You can make a generous profit ^^.
[Venue Pro General] ratchetjaw:
That's good a handful got them but still a cluster puck in my book. I am going to try and call one of the stores and we if they ship :)
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
They should have just had them on their website, give more people an opportunity to buy one instead of having them only in stores no one actually knows about.
[Desire Themes and Apps] korbi:
Hi!

I am trying to make my first custom homescreen and ran into some difficulties:

I would like to have a big image on my screen, working as 2 shortcuts:

I would like that if i click the left part of the image one app is launched, but when i click the right part another app is launched.

But the image should be displayed without a gap. I thought that Desktop Visualizer could do the job, but there is allways a gap.

Is there an a app, which allows me to do so???

(I use Launcher Pro and set the rows & colums to 5, because that way there is more space :-) But this shouldnt matter... )

Greetz

Korbi