yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkeee:
Ehh... this article is bull****. It's just some more hype written by another Android user for ZDNet. If you look at the sourced article, it does not mention any impending predicament for Schmidt and barely talks about Google. This just hype... for example:

The ZDnet author writes in his article:

It is now obvious that it’s the latter step Google took with Android and folks in Washington are starting to take notice.

The cited article doesn't mention a political quandary headed by Google. It can be summarized well by the last sentence. And the only relevance to Google and Schmidt in that article is a short blurb referring to another blog post on the same site.

The fundamental question the FCC now needs to answer is not if developers will find a way around the latest blocks, but if companies should be allowed to continue actively blocking users from truly owning and having full control over the mobile devices they buy in the first place.

and

On Tuesday October 5, 2010 the New America Foundation posted a blog highlighting a new “feature” of the T-Mobile's G2 with Google phone (G2).

Following that link takes us to the New American Foundation site which posted the following on Oct 5th (with an update on the 7th):

Unfortunately, the G2 also comes with built-in hardware that restricts what software a device owner might wish to install.

and

Clearly, the included software on T-Mobile's phone overrides a user's rights to run the legal software and applications of their choice. Instead, a microchip on the new T-Mobile Android phone acts just like a virus -- overwriting a user's preferred software and changing preferences and settings to change settings and software to conform to the desires of a third party. Users of the new "T-Mobile G2 with Google" phone should be warned that their device will overwrite their software modifications. We are seeking further clarification as to the legality of this software.

As you can see this is between the FCC, T-Mobile and possibly HTC. I don't foresee Google taking any real interest in this because it can only cost them money. Sure Google has made some noble contributions, but how much can they gain from protecting their interests? Not an awful much in this case. Mobile phone manufacturers and network providers will keep using the Android operating system. And the fact that Google licensed the Android operating system does not readily mean they are entitled to enforce it.

If you are interested in the legality of enforcing a license like the GPL, I highly suggest reading: http://www.jltp.uiuc.edu/archives/kumar.pdf

Here's a blurb that describes the predicament:
[G2 and Desire Z General] naria01:
Whatever... It's whatever you want it to be... Stop trying to ruin the excitement here...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Cel1084:
I think the real issue her is the we own the phone and have the right to install or uninstall any application we want that is not integral to the proper operation of the phone without needing root access. This just isn't a T-mobile issue either, all cell providers do the same thing. I doubt it will change anytime soon without the government getting involved.
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkeee:
You can also try thinking for yourself as opposed to accepting everything you read, whether it's my post or the article.
[G2 and Desire Z General] moodecow:
just out of curiosity

is it possible that by "rooting" our phones we would then be able to circumvent some of the failsafes or even bypass billing processes that our network providers have in place?

if there is even the slightest hint of a yes then i would say that any network provider would be entitled to take "reasonable" action to protect their investment as im sure that in any contract or terms of use guide the networks have there would be a section saying something similiar, if not more wordy and legal'ish
[G2 and Desire Z General] simobile:
Regardless of sensationalism or whatever this is good for us.. I just can't believe the responses here or hell in most of the G2 forums. Most of you are like puppies who will lay over just for a corporate tummy rub. WTF! Why are the "this phone rocks root or not!!11!!" people even on a DEVELOPER website? Jesus people you are either with or against the thing that made cyanogenmod a household name....open android.

I can clearly say XDA was not founded on the principal of HEY MY PHONE CAME JUST THE WAY I LIKED IT....AHHH THANKS HTC.

Please get behind the cause people.
[G2 and Desire Z General] naria01:
Let me guess... you voted for obama...
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkeee:
No.
[G2 and Desire Z General] eioous:
WTF...does voting for Obama have to do with this.....some people.

Sent from my DETHFONE (G2)
[G2 and Desire Z General] grankin01:
OP thanks for the link to the info it was interesting to know that more than just consumers are taking notice even if it doesn't go very far. :)

Mod, please close this thread before its dominated by "truck stop politics." This isn't the place to discuss who voted for who and why or why not it was a good idea.
[G2 and Desire Z General] krayshunist:
... no. Billing is done on carrier side, not on the phone. In fact, the carrier doesn't even know which phone you're currently using, and they don't really care beyond forcing you to buy certain plans with certain phones.

Did you even read the root threads you just referenced? If so, you clearly don't understand what's in them so read the wiki.
[G2 and Desire Z General] swags:
I find it odd that the article that the OP linked to mentions T-Mobile's claims of a poorly coded app almost bringing the network down helps they argument for blocking root. The problem is, based on what I can from the TmoNews article on the app, that app had nothing to do with rooting. Any attempt to link that app to root problems for carriers is pure FUD.

Is it too much to ask that T-Mobile just come out and say that rooting and flashing ROMs leads to higher support costs? Then we can at least have an honest debate.
[G2 and Desire Z General] arthurbrownleeiv:
:D Spot on.

People don't want to have to think anymore... Hence the excitement around OS's like WP7.
[G2 and Desire Z General] simobile:
The android prayer... Lead us not into WP7 and deliver us from iDevices into the valley of open green robots. Amen
[G2 and Desire Z General] flarbear:
You can tether without an official plan that they want to charge for. Since the data plan you paid for is only for data on the phone, that would be bypassing one of their billing mechanisms.

(Though, one counterpoint is that I believe you can do some limited forms of tethering without root so that particular billing process is already on shaky ground, but rooting would let you go all the way with it without being charged...)
[G2 and Desire Z General] flarbear:
But the app was available in the market and the developer could be contacted and the problem fixed and the solution distributed through friendly channels. If worse comes to worst, Android does have a fuze mechanism that could disable a bad app remotely - intended primarily to kill viruses or malicious apps. They didn't really need to do that in this case, but if the app had caused enough of a problem the mechanism was available to get invoked.

They don't have that kind of control over a rogue OS should a similar bug affect a 3rd party ROM.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bigstunta101:
amen pastor preach it!!! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] swags:
Valid point. However, a developer could distibute the apk directly, outside the market, and again cause such a problem without a root or a 3rd party ROM. The application really exposed a network vulnerability.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] disturkis4u:
I have a thread in my messages that shows it's unread. I've opened it several times both in stock messaging and also in handcent. I've also chosen to mark everything read and it still shows unread. Its driving me crazy.

Please help...

And another thing, I also got a blank text from an anonymous sender.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] disturkis4u:
No sooner than I posted this..I got a text from the same person n now the unread thing went away.

But still would like help with anonymous text
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] henreeg:
it's someone in here hacking your phone.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] disturkis4u:
I hope so. Then maybe they can fix it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PhantomHacker:
Close thread please.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
Yes. Unrevoked 3.21 is a full root, with nand unlock. You can flash anything you want and do nandroids.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PhantomHacker:
Ok thanks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] catdeerduck:
it should say backup on the recovery you're using
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
I'm sure there is somewhere if you google it or use the search feature on xda. Honestly there is really nothing to them, you do it from recovery. With RA, just select backup/restore and then select Nand backup. I'm sure it's very similar with clockwork.
[Vibrant General] ryanmcin:
Hi everyone. I would appreciate any help on my current problem.

I'm running rooted Vibrant with JI6 update and RyanZA OCLF. My bumbling with the Vibrant has resulted in the following scenario:

I backed up TWCalendar and Provider apk and odex and deleted both from /system/app.

After reboot, I uninstalled com.android.calendar and com.android.provider.calendar.

Another reboot, and I installed a Calendar.apk and CalendarProvider.apk, stock calendar apps from I believe CM5.0.8 for N1. Installed via Root File Manager and another stroke of reboot magic.

Calendar worked perfectly, except for an unsightly gray bar obscuring the top portion of the calendar. I thought thinks may have gotten mucked up with an install. So I did an uninstall->reboot->install->reboot. Gray bar was still there. So I decided to just go back to touchwiz calendar. I uninstalled Calendar and CalendarProvider, rebooted, moved my TWCalendar.apk and Provider apk and odex from backup, and then selected TWCalendar.apk to install. Said application did not install. Thought I would settle, for the meantime then, on the N1 calendar, so moved the TW apk and odexes to backup and once again tried to install Calendar.apk and CalendarProvider.apk. I tried to install Calendar.apk through root file manager, and it said application not installed. Now, I can install neither the normal calendar nor the TW calendar. Any attempts greet me with "Application Not Installed."

Anyone have any advice?

Thank you so much for any assistance.
[Android Apps and Games] Davidandroid:
Hi All,

Memory Booster is one of our most popular utilities, you can download it free on the andorid market. Here we just update to the new V2.3.

Version 2.3 (Sep. 20, 2010)

-Blackscreen issue fixed in this new version

-Widget process is protected from memory boosting

-Alarm & Clock process is protected from memory boosting

-Improved user interface for Whitelist function

-Other minor improvements(new icon image, code optimizations etc.)

Memory Booster is a powerful mobile Memory & RAM boosting tool specially designed for Android smartphone users. It is a handy memory optimizer tool that will keep your Android smartphone running faster and efficiently. It increases your cell phone’s performance by making more memory available for both your applications and the mobile system.

Product Features:

·Real-time Smartphone Memory Status Report & Monitor

Memory Booster gives you professional, easy-to-read status report on your smartphone’s memory usage. A live chart demonstrates your total available memory and current memory usage. Memory Booster makes it easy to see how well your smartphone is performing, and to check if your system is overloaded.

·Setting Your Performance Target

Using Memory Booster’s Settings function, you can boost phones by setting performance goal fits your profile. Memory Booster will work to keep your memory at desired levels, and act immediately if memory drops below critical level.

·One-click Quick Memory Boosting

In addition to monitoring and reclaiming your memory automatically, Memory Booster allows you to boost your memory manually. By using the Quick Boost feature, you can observe Memory Booster reclaiming more memory for your system. In the mean time, Quick Boost will smartly remember the settings that work best for your smartphone.

·Auto-boosting in the Background

Your memory is the most important resource on your smartphone, and how it is used can drastically affect performance. With Auto-boosting feature, Memory Booster can run in the background and automatically reclaim unused memory on your Smartphone. It oversees the allocation of memory resources through its unique cache management technique.

·Android system crash protection

The majority of smartphone crashes come when system resources are inadequate. Memory Booster automatically watches and cleans up your Android’s system memory when it reaches a critical point. By using Memory Booster, you don’t need to know anything about your smartphone system; Memory Booster will provide all the technical know-how.

·And there is more..

Other features include embedded Advanced Task Manager, Whitelist Manager, Boost Level Manager & Memory Boost Log, which allow you to manually quit the running applications safely, to protect items from being killed during Memory Booster’s boost operation, to easily adjust Memory Booster’s boost strength according to users’ demands, and manually check Memory Booster’s boosting history to trace the effectiveness it improves your smartphone’s performance.

Screenshots:

Download link:

REMOVED

Leave a comment if you have any questions or suggestion when using MemoryBooster. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] wyldkard:
installed it but oubt its gonna make much of a difference on a custom rom

this probably has more use on a rooted factory rom
[Android Apps and Games] Davidandroid:
Latest version

Version 2.5 (Oct. 22, 2010)

- Improved component: Task Killer

- Full support for Android 2.2 (Froyo) devices

- Whitelist optimization

- Enhanced boost speed

Leave a comment if you have any suggestions. Thanks;)
[Android Apps and Games] acke2008:
Thank you Dev, my problem blackscreen solved. :) Great work
[Android Apps and Games] Disgustipated:
Don't use this program, it's a potential scam. The creators go around and spam various Android websites with it. It has access to your personal information too. I wouldn't trust it.

Check this thread: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...ram-optimizer-speed-up-your-smartphone-4.html

If it's so good, why do they have to spam forums with their shill? Hmm...
[Android Apps and Games] namebrandon:
EDIT - CONFIRMED SPAM / SCAM

Feel free to read my sensible post below, or look into the previous posts by "acke2008" or the OP. This is definitely, 100% spam, and probably a scam. I would highly suggest whatever moderator reads this to do a clean/ban on their accounts.

This doesn't make sense to me, and is setting of a few alarm bells in my head to.

First, Android as an OS manages RAM extremely well. Since applications are launched as individual dalvik vm's, their memory space is protected from one another, which means their memory is protected from this application. How is this application "reclaiming" free memory? Memory is either in use, or not in use (free). If you kill an application directly, it's memory is automatically unallocated (freed), which is the point of task-killers (no need to discuss their actual efficacy yet again).

I'd also like to point out what I think is a bit ironic that a program claiming to increase free memory and optimizer performance actually takes up memory and resources. At least ATK kills itself when it's done... does this?

I don't know, happy to eat my words if someone wants to take the time and test it out and give us some insight on how it works and what it's doing, but right now I don't see the point, and a pointless app with access to my data concerns me.
[Android Apps and Games] Obi_Kwiet:
It seems like forcing programs to give up memory would slow the phone down in most circumstances. They are just going to have to load all of it back. I would think that RAM usage optimizations need to be dealt with on a program by program basis.
[Android Apps and Games] Davidandroid:
Hello namebradon,

Thanks for your comment. This is David, the developer of Memorybooster and BatteryBooster, you can check more apps for the android at our site www.downloadandroid.info. Most of apps are free. You can choose the one you like, there is no calumniation. We are trying to make our app to meet the needs of our customers in every update. Please feel free to let me know if you have any good suggestion. We are pleased to take into consideration of next new version. Thanks :)
[Android Apps and Games] Disgustipated:
I am 100% sure this guy's apps are scams + spams. He goes to other forums too and spams them. I saw him spamming on a Droid forum recently. You can google the program name and look for spam threads.
[Android Apps and Games] reaperzero:
i managed to try this..... and its not worth the trouble using it :/ it does not do anything :/ glad i didnt pay for this. found a rapidshare link to the program last week. >_>
[Android Apps and Games] Captainkrtek:
Thread Closed, Links to Paid Software not allowed, Also appears to be a somewhat sketchy app
[Droid X Android Development] maxxram:
Hello,

I am hoping somebody can give me a little advice on my issue.

I updated to the OTA 2.2 via the full SBF file, i then rooted using the one click root. I then installed the 928 black glass theme that deodex's at the same time.

Everything was running fine. I them wanted to change some of the icons by modifying the framework file. I booted into recovery and created a back up before attempting to change the framework file. I them made the changes to the icons i wanted to in the framework file. a sent it back to the phone via ADB. However the phone was stuck in a boot loop. I then pulled the battery and it rebooted into recovery. I selected my backup and it started to load. The problem is it gets to where it says "Restoring Data" and it just hangs there. I let it sit at that point for over 20 min with no change. I also have tried to go into the advance recovery and just restore the data file on its own, but it also freezes.

Anyone know what might be the issue here?

Thanks
[Vibrant General] The Tech Game:
Hey people im having A huge problem (took me ALL afternoon to get here) ok so i flashed a bad ROM, Odin'ed back to stock (but when i did that it always said "wipe data failed", and now im trying to restore a backup in recovery and it keeps on freezing at "pcsync_stream" and it also froze one time at "HALGPS_conf.cfg", i replied on a post that had a similar problem but no one answered so i made my own, here is the link to the other post if you need more info:

PLS REPLY AND THANK YOU!
[Vibrant General] WAudette:
I ran into the same problem today. I'll keep an eye on this post and let you know if I come up with anything.

WAudette...
[Vibrant General] cparekh:
Did your bad ROM also flash a new kernel? Nandroid doesn't flash the kernel back, so you might need to do that as well. I have no idea if this is THE problem, but it is a common problem.

Good luck.
[Vibrant General] opiomorph:
I've run into this before myself, when I forgot to disable the Voodoo lagfix before flashing something. You could try disabling it using ADB if you know how to do that, but that didn't work in my case. You're likely going to have to use ODIN. The instructions are here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8129898&postcount=1 under "Did you flash something before disabling Voodoo?", Fix 1.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luigi115007:
I have digged this forum looking for a solution to fix my phone and i cant seem to find anything....

Here is my issue

i rooted my phone, im still using stock rom with the latest update

then i flashed the voodoo lag fix via clockworkrecovery and now my phone

is stucked in the vibrant screen. I cant get into download mode or recovery

Please help.:(
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] henreeg:
I'm subscribing to this thread.

Can't wait to see the development of this project.

Is this a new ROM?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djf8:
Here ya go.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DaSmittyman:
Coming from the bionix thread and Som himself

This is done at your own risk.

1. Download Eugenes 'Froyo that does not brick' file.

2. Extract the files.

3. Open Odin, plug in your phone, then put it into download mode.

4. load the PIT file in appropriate area.

5. load the .tar file in the PDA area.

6. DO NOT check 're-partition'.

7. Click start, let it finish. Your phone will load and reboot into stock recovery. It will error out again. DONT panic! This is what's supposed to happen.

8. Now, pull your battery.

9. Download the 'True stock 2.1 firmware for the vibrant'.

10. Extract the files.

11. Once again, open Odin, plug in your phone, put into download mode.

12. Load the PIT file into the appropriate area and the .tar in the PDA area.

13. THIS TIME you want to check the 're-partition' box.

14. Now click start, let it finish, and this time your phone will load up just fine! BAM!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luigi115007:
im willing to try that ^^ but i can get into download mode i tried every single possible way i been trying for 5 hours and i cant get into download :(
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MStrawder:
So, I'll be the first to say it then, please, in the future, post this in the appropriate thread. The Q&A or even General would be more appropriate. ::sigh::

Now with that, have you tried booting into Download mode through ADB?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luigi115007:
sorry for putting it in this section, i didnt realize, yes i tried to use ADB since odin and my computer recognizes the phone while the phone is in the vibrant screen and no it wont work through ADB =(
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MStrawder:
You say your computer recognizes the device. So when you type "adb devices", it displays your device? If so, type "adb reboot download" and you're golden. Otherwise, the method that always worked for me to get into Download mode was:

1) Unplug from USB cable.

2) Power down device and remove battery

3) Hold Vol - and Power simultaneously

4) Insert battery

while

holding down the above keys.

Post back results.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BabyBoi.JN:
I've always been able to get into Download Mode with holding the vol up/down buttons while off and then plugging in the usb cable.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teamreidy48:
I had same issue and had to use a different usb to micro usb cable then my stock charging cable and it worked to get into download mode
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MilkPudding:
I'm not trying to be mean but PLEASE read before posting. This is the developement section, not Q&A.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] splat matt:
Pay attention to the part in asterisk

1) Unplug from USB cable.

2) Power down device and remove battery

3) Hold ***Vol UP & DOWN(press in the middle)*** and Power simultaneously

4) Insert battery while holding down the above keys.

Pay attention to the part in asterisk.

It will go into download mode. If you still have issue PM me.

This post needs to be moved to the Q&A or General
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krook6023:
Agreed moved to Q&A, Please post is the correct section.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] constomy:
In order for me to get into download mode I have to plug my phone in, wait for the charging icon to show up, and them press and hold vol down and power.Keep holding them until out shows up.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mage42384:
I have to hold them after the cable is plugged in, then put my battery in to get it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mage42384:
OMG!!!! This Worked!!! Thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!