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[Windows Phone 7 General] mobi:
Well, I've just spent a day getting my HD2 set up with WP7 and I've got to say, its a totally different experience to Android and WM6.5. I'm not sure if I'm going to stick to it either. I've already noticed things that I've gotten used to on Android and I dont want to do without. Google Voice for international calling is a biggie.

That said, I want to give it a fair shot and see if I get used to it. One thing I wish we could do is take an image of the phone like you can on a computer. Then if you chooses to switch back and forth between OS's, you would not have to reinstall everything one by one. Just restore the image. That would be cool.
[Windows Phone 7 General] castrow:
Missing applications

I know it does not depend on MS but applications like Skype or whatsapps apparently are not interested in WP7, just Iphone, Symbian and android. I had a HTC fuze with an energy rom that rocks! I have a Samsung Focus today but I considered i should have bought a samsung galaxy :-(
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmelo76:
Cleaned Thread!

When we defend our point of view always wrong, because the truth and neither side has no point of view!

Deleted attacks, fights and disputes.

Let's keep this thread clean and let's just post something related to the topic without personal attacks.

This is just a warning!
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
there are 2 google voice apps in the marketplace.
[Windows Phone 7 General] pimppoet:
Wp7 needs to catchup with itself before it can worry about other google,apple,etc. I think wm7 couldve been a beast if it was given the same support & hardware as iwp7. Hopefully wp8/9 fills the voids of wm & iwp7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.Mazika:
Topic Updated See First Post with solutions for most WP7 problems
[Windows Phone 7 General] pimppoet:
I think it does depend on ms. I know nothing about wm until I was in the market for a new cell & came across a post on howardforums the for $50 htc wing wm promo. I researched it & was happy with it for the most part. I had never seen commercials about wm. I could understand them slippin up not taking apple serious. That should have been a wake up call. Even before wp7 was announced I would see commercials sayin get this for bb,droid or iphone but nada bout wm.
[Windows Phone 7 General] 0711:
Another disadvantage

- i like to say when i want push and at what time i want periodic download to safe battery

oh for sure...the mass storage disadvatage...but everybody knows this ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] -WP7User-:
I solved my problem (static IP) like this: I installed connectifyme on my PC with Windowy 7. My PC has got its own static IP. Now, my PC is like a Wireless router for my phone, although my PC is connected to the Internet via LAN. The program just uses my Wlan Card to make a WiFi Hotspot. Really cool, works great and is blazingly fast!
[Windows Phone 7 General] fetidflesh:
Just to add... I would like to be able to save my contacts to my SIM rather than windows live as i don't like personal contacts connected to anything viewable from the internet. Privacy issue, most don't care, but i'm not a sheeple and i'm not into facebook or being "socially connected." I'll just call if i want to see what you're doing.

I want an easier way to load my personal documents on my phone besides emailing them to myself, opening each attachment individually, and saving them to the office hub. Crap.

Not to mention i miss my pocketnester, and since i couldn't play half the games on my Pure because it wasn't multitouch, i was really looking forward to playing super mario brothers on my Focus. But no reason to make pocketnester for winphone 7 if you can't load the roms onto it.

Other than those things and a few from what was mentioned on page 1 (copy/paste, flash, etc...) i'm pretty happy with the phone. Much better than android, but that's only because i'm dependant on the office interchangeability. Hopefully they'll change it, otherwise i'll be saving up for an HD2 from Australia. ;P

Unless someone can figure out how to put win mobile 6.5 on a windows 7 device. ;D
[Windows Phone 7 General] FaisalNahian:
I agree with you and I'm pretty sure they are working on it. But you really want to go back to 6.5 just because you depend on office so much? :eek:
[Windows Phone 7 General] 0711:
another disadvantage is the browser...is there realy no "back" button?
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
Well there is. It works in most cases.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TecHunter:
Can you add no rSAP bluetooth profile support which REALLY suck....

I had to downgrade to WM6.5 on my HD2... T.T
[Windows Phone 7 General] fetidflesh:
Eh, not the only reason. I'm not too fond of having all my programs listed on a scrollable screen. I thought itd be okay at first, but the more I use it the more I hate it. Seems like a reversed iPhone, and I definitely hate the iPhone. Not too fond of the live tiles either. It might grow on me, but next year if it ain't better I'm definitely getting something else.

I think I just miss sense.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.Mazika:
i think this will be the only disadvantage of WP7 After all update .. the solution is an interface application or update to metro interface

see this suggestion

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=913038
[Windows Phone 7 General] BradM32751:
I'm with you there man, just got my Samsung Focus a few days back. have a good amount of apps and movies on it now...but really miss the Sense UI from my Touch Pro 2...

*Wish they at least added the ability to customize the colors to pick for the tiles. The stock colors are all bad... want a black theme.

*Pros: Netflix works amazing on my Focus...very smooth and great quality.

Have been able to add movies and music successfully.

BIG CON - Samsung Focus microSD issues. Glad I didn't add one right away...and looked online for which cards are tested working.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.Mazika:
chk this Advanced Configuration Tool for Windows Phone 7 Beta

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evtsAUoutTo
[Windows Phone 7 General] fetidflesh:
that's definitely a cool idea and would make my customization itch go away for awhile. Hopefully Microsoft will go along with it since they snipped out unlocking your phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Fuzzy John:
HTC devices only.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
ummm........

you mean the back arrow at the bottom of your phone doesn't work for you?
[Windows Phone 7 General] kabumm:
What's pissing me of more and more really is the lack of landscape mode in THIS MANY apps. That's sucks soooo bad. But that's not MS fault i think.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Euroman28:
Here is my currently of problems with WP7.

1) Lack of non-english keyboards. I understand it would have taken too much to time for MS to translate the OS into bla bla. languages. But would it have been to much trouble to have released the freaking keyboards with the first release of WP7?

2) The battery indicator and charging. Why isn't there a menu-item which tells "You phone xx % charged".??? Was that too much trouble to do?

3) The Phone doesn't recharge then turned-off. I have used Windows Mobile 6.1, 6.5 and Android and all three OS, they could recharge the phone then the phone is off, but not WP7?

4) The store limited to US costumers. Its beyond my understanding why Microsoft feelt the need to limit access to free apps to US WP7. It can't possibly be a rights issue?

note. I am using WP7 on a HD2, but if the build for WP7 phones have all the same issues above and some more. Then personally I will delay investing in a

WP7 phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] KrewsialNL:
edit: wrong forum
[Windows Phone 7 General] Euroman28:
It is disadvantages with Wp7 so no its not wrong forum.....
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.Mazika:
most of this is bugs and applications not released yet waiting ... that will be fixed by time

and i don't think u need wp7 phone if u have hd2
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
1. agreed, though MS did say that the 8 or so countries it released to is merely just the first phase of the launch. they will do more over time. i think just getting the phone out there was the plan. if they waited for every feature possible, we would have never seen a new windows phone, ever.

2. agreed again, but from their point of view, they're going for complete minimal, to allow the apps to utilise the whole screen.

3. the reason the phone turns back on is because the OS is managing the battery charging, hence why it auto fires up when it's plugged in and off.

4. i live in australia and can access most applications. it's up the developer what regions they release their app to, though most release to all. if they don't it is because they don't offer their services in that region. an example of this is netflix. it's not available in australia as a service, hence their application isn't. logical.

and as for windows phone 7 on hd2, as good as it is to see it ported, i still personally believe you don't get the full experience but aye, it gives you most of the experience. that and you're illegally loading it and getting PVK from MS illegally too, but that's a whole different story.
[Windows Phone 7 General] samsamuel:
oops not the thread i thought i was in :) deleted
[Windows Phone 7 General] DennisCSUF:
I think it has to do with Zune Store not being available everywhere only on a few countries, look how long it took them to open the Zune store outside the US? (and I been using Zune hardware since the first generation I'm currently on a ZuneHD 16 gig with a 2 year old Zune pass)
[Windows Phone 7 General] vbetts:
I think they expanded Zune to other areas when they expanded Zune to the 360. Could be wrong on that.

But one disadvantage I found with WP7 is it doesn't make you a sandwich.

Solution? That's what a wife is for.
[Windows Phone 7 General] slighmd:
agree with the marketplace not offered in majority of countries, where the devices are sold. Selling these devices officially in countries where the WP7 marketplace is not supported is waaay ill-considered and careless. Android i think offers their marketplace everywhere, at least the free apps. And iOS? app store (not itunes music store) support everywhere!
[Windows Phone 7 General] jaraya13:
Yes, I can't understand why MS did this non sense first approach. Is it too difficult to accept money from all credit cards around the world...???

I really need to buy some apps, but I can't...
[Windows Phone 7 General] MrAndrewAu:
Advantage: Unified updates so you won't get fragmented OS versions like with Android

Disadvantage: Where is the damn update? :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] MNr2064:
i need an app for widget
[Windows Phone 7 General] thetiger_jad007:
hey all .. I have a problem in touchxplorer..

I can't open my memory card :S I can see it but when I open it I have an error "there is no application associated with this file type" !! and they put under storage card " file 0 bytres !!

any solutions ??:S
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
One troubling disadvantage I'm seeing with 3rd party tiles is the lack of color coordination. There are apps with live tiles I would like to use but can't because of their color clashing with the rest of the main screen. It feels disorganized, uncoordinated and half-assed. I don't mind differing colors, so long as they don't clash. But, as an example, one light blue tile in a sea of cherry red tiles is ugly. I have charcoal or dark gray tiles and dark red tiles that I don't mind, but I can't abide the clashing colors.

I see this as a serious issue. To some it might seem insignificant. But to me, I see it as a disadvantage for this tile-type system. MS needs to put restrictions on the app devs to adhere to the current theme'ing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
what does this have to do with the topic?
[Windows Phone 7 General] irispen:
You said that i can send files sing touchXplorer.. but cant, where is the send botton? how can i send vie bluetooth?
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
why do you keep posting about touchxplorer in this thread???
[Windows Phone 7 General] irispen:
huh? this is my first time to post here.. shh..
[Windows Phone 7 General] volkovski:
Hello, I´d like to know if WM7 does have implemented VPN support (Cisco IPsec VPN concretely). Thank you for your replies :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] chocolate5215:
perf solutions...

also wp7 is so far away from me. TAT
[Windows Phone 7 General] jaraya13:
Advantage: Fast OS, good design!

Major disadvantages: No Garmin, No Skype, No Google Maps, No support worldwide...
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
sorry, but you were about the 3rd poster then in the last couple of pages asking questions about touchxperience in the wrong thread then.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
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[Windows Phone 7 General] vHatch:
Wow, you posted this misinformation in 3 different threads. It DOES have playlist shuffle.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
Not my fault they made it so vague. I have other Zunes that are clear to get to the settings. If they didn't want people complaining, they should have designed it better....more intuitive and user friendly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vHatch:
Sure it is kinda hidden but once you know where it is it is great.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
You got any idea where they put the function for making custom email folders? I used it in the beginning, but now I can't find it. It used to be you could tap the "Folder" menu and then tap & hold on the "Inbox" folder to bring up a menu allowing for the creation of folders. I can't do that anymore.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vHatch:
No, sorry, I don't use email much on my phone since anyone at my place could pick it up and access it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
These smartphones make a great email handler. You can sift through all the email you don't want and delete it from the server. When you get to your PC and open your email accounts, nothing but desired email. Yeah, yeah, I know there are others ways to handle spam and such, but I like doing it this way. With custom folders, I can move desired mail from the inbox to a specific folder and keep the inbox clean.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kans:
Cannot share a contact card (or partial information) via SMS/MMS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jaraya13:
This is true, I really miss that feature... :mad:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Hakimy:
guys I have a question.I read the main disadvantages in gsmarena and I have a friend who said that half of those problems were solved which was strange to me since I know that WP7 didn't get its first update yet.those cons are:

No system-wide file manager

No Bluetooth file transfers

No USB mass storage mode

No internet tethering support

New ringtones available only through the Marketplace

he also said that support for languages like arabic,hebrew,farsi is there as well (I think it's only for reading though).anyway the guy is using a WP7 port on his HD2 so is it true? or t's the port which makes him think like that?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ehabfg:
thanks for this show

i was think about buy window mobile 7 loaded mobile

but finally decide to buy andriod
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
I'm sure there's other more important things, but having just come from a Desire I really really miss the camera timer. Especially confusing because phones like the Mozart are advertised around the fact that they have good cameras...
[Windows Phone 7 General] bobbyjimmy:
I think its a shame that Microsoft wants people to pay for a "great foundation" I think they should have waited until they had a mobile os that could go toe to toe with android and ios

whatever, what do I know? Im just a regular joe and not very tech savy

I actually bought the htc hd7, had it for a week, then exchanged it for the mytouch 4g and whoa!!!! a night and day difference

windows phone 7 - NOT VERY SMART FOR A SMARTphone
[Windows Phone 7 General] Emperior:
Country calling codes problem

Has anyone solved the problem with country calling codes on wp7? The phone only recognize contact with exact number match, very strange.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mcorrie1121:
I want the brain! Are they only available in Serbia? :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
One other disadvantage I see with WP7 right now has to do with the app and game prices. Generally the price of a game on WP7 is 3 times higher than iPhone or Android. And this is referring to MS games like Fruit Ninja. I love Fruit Ninja and bought it for my iPhone. But I paid $.99, whereas the WP7 version is $2.99. I want it, but I can't bring myself to buy it at that cost, since I have no income.

MS needs to get real and start thinking in terms of competing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
i think it's also the age of the application. Fruit Ninja on iPhone has been around for years. When it first started I believe the price was the same as it is on WP. But I do agree, games which are a few years old on other platforms should be similarly matched on WP.
[Windows Phone 7 General] tin2404:
On every 1000 WP7 applications,only 1 is usefull or good.Maybe it will be better in the future but I doubt, because WP7 is not attent to be used for advanced users.
[Windows Phone 7 General] crubbish:
100% agree. I was shocked when I realized this ratio. Coming from Android market I couldn't believe the amount of complete nonsense (boldly called "apps" by creators) in WP Marketplace. What amazes me more is that many "developers" even try to charge for the trash they produce... So I don't undersand these enthusiastic reports like WP Marketplace hits 7000 apps, 8000 apps and so on. In reality it means WP Marketplace has now got 54 good apps; 59 good apps et c. Not sure if this is about platform being too new or difficult to code for or perhaps MS not using right tools to attract strong developers.
[Windows Phone 7 General] failtorespond:
The wp7 marketplace has just as many useless "apps" as android and iOS have. It's just that we're barely getting started so they are easier to notice. Didn't anyone adopt an android when their market was still new? It was HORRIBLE.
[Windows Phone 7 General] crubbish:
I'm not saying iOS or Android don't have crap in their app store/market. I'm saying PROPORTIONALLY WP Marketplace seems to win big time (number of crap apps that is). MS is being proud of it's Marketplace growing so fast with 8000 apps over 4 months. My point is that there's nothing to be proud of if there's barely a 100 of apps that can be called useful. It might be me but I also don't see any posiive trends IE quality increasing over time. I like WP7 and would stick with it on 2 conditions: 1) They iron out the wrincles and make OS at least as functional as WM 6.5 once was and 2) Their Marketplace has something more useful than fart apps. For now browsing the Marketplace one can get an impression that OS was built specifically for teenagers.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
i would think that the reason there aren't a lot of great apps is because a lot of the better ones use a bit more of the phone's technologies which the APIs aren't written for yet, or the phone isn't running that way. For example, Skype. It's not available because there is no socket support, and no multitasking. These are coming though. So once the APIs open up significantly more, and some of the additional features like multitasking kick in, you will definitely see a jump in actual useful applications.
[Windows Phone 7 General] allanz:
Yes this is the reason I'm holding back to install ms phone 7on .my HTC hd2. Apps prices are too much.
[Windows Phone 7 General] thesecondsfade:
A ton... and I mean a TON of apps in the Android Market are for things that should be included in Android but are not like a good music player, security program, task manager, etc. This was the same reason you had to tweak and modify WM6 to get it to work the way you want it to.

There is no need for that in WP7 because the things the platform supports are already there and almost everything works the way it's supposed to. There are no API's yet for WiFi toggles and such in WP7 and that accounts for another ton of apps in the Android market.

When you take away all the apps in the Android market that are meant to make Android work and feel the way people want it to, which WP7 already does, the ratio of "crap apps", as you stated, is the same.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cervtel:
title here

There is no need for that in WP7 because the things the platform supports are already there and almost everything works the way it's supposed to. There are no API's yet for WiFi toggles and such in WP7 and that accounts for another ton of apps in the Android market.

When you take away all the apps in the Android market that are meant to make Android work and feel the way people want it to, which WP7 already does, the ratio of "crap apps", as you stated, is the same.[/QUOTE]

Seriously? Is that meant to be a joke, zune works so well oh wait it just froze again at least the phone didn't crash =) too bad i have to reboot to make it work again. Awesome browser oh wait it just stopped connecting dang that's another reboot. Let me call my mom for her opinion on wp7, damn she cant hear me again that's another reboot. I wish the volume on my speakerphone worked at its designed capacity perhaps in another patch I so wish there was a APP FOR THAT.

"everything works the way its supposed to" heck anything will run fine if it can only do one thing at a time; and if it doesn't lets just remove the capabilities even tho the hardware can handle it. Im tired of hidden abilities with this phone, hidden sd cards, hidden tethering why are you stopping me from basic functions. no multitasking they claim for reliability but heck the apps are not stable at all, os might be but whats the point when the apps crash. With all the power under the hood of smartphones these days it seems like a waste with no success at the goal.

Ratio of "crap apps" dude WP7 has a 99% ratio of crap apps. I don't need 10 calculators or 20 stock tickers, i need way to shutdown apps (the app) that crashed, i need a better messenger (bulk messenger multiple feeds being streamed in a single app), i need a better browser, i need to be able to irc chat or any chat for christ sake, i need to ftp, i need to locate my car, i need to modify photos with actual useful options not just 100 different apps that crop or rotate photos.
[Windows Phone 7 General] crubbish:
I appreciate that your satisfaction level with WP7 in it's current state is high. My case is obviously different. I need some core and boring functions like Speed dial, Smart dialing, ability to see battery % at a glance, ability to display more than 1 appointment on my home screen, ability to set default reminder time for new events and the list goes on. Perhaps I'm a demanding user but these things were easily achievable even with WM. But I wasn't going to complain about WP7 which is still very young OS and will (hopefully) mature over time. I've complained about content of the Marketplace. You're saying take away all the tools from Android Market and it'll be the same low quality content left. Well, how about adding the tools to WP Marketplace instead? So that the guys who are not completely happy with WP7 have a chance to enhance their experience?

Are you trying to say WP7 already does work the way people want it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] alireza_simkesh:
how about recording calls?

still not supported?...:confused:
[Windows Phone 7 General] mcorrie1121:
What phone do you have? The only issue I've seen is Marketplace not loading, but that's only happened a few times.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TheZuneLune:
I would think that turn-by-turn voice navigation would be such a popular feature that they would have announced it. I have no doubt that you saw it, but we have no promise of a release date, correct?
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
They could hurt Google a little bit with a purchase of Adobe. Since Apple doesn't do flash, no harm for them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dtboos:
Well.....not quite. Apple relies on Adobe quite a bit as many developers ect who use macs, tend to use Adobe products.