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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Denver Hunter:
Cricket has a hold of 2.1 and it is in testing atm. they are making sure things like myaccount app and cricket store etc.. work without bugs. They want to release sometime this next week, but also dont want to release something that is buggy and will cause any problems for customers. With all the misconseptions around about cricket because they used to not be a nation wide service and specific to only certain markets(some people even customers still believe this to be true), they dont need bad press over anything. So official word from my regionals etc, say they hope to offer it this week, but depending on testing it could get pushed back a week or two until they can make sure they are releasing a stable update that won't fill stores with pissed off customers
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rudebeats:
Wow. Thanks dats good news! Wat source did u find out from?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Denver Hunter:
I am a premiere cricket dealer, got this info from my ISS which is the person from cricket corp, that comes and updates price points on phones and brings new posters etc.. to all the stores

He has never given me bad info before, so pretty sure this is good info
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
OK so maybe you can answer this question, is this going to be an OTA update?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
Answer is in the OP. Kyocera is working w/ Cricket to try and make that an option.

If they can't, I believe it would be acceptable if it was made as a downloadable update via the desktop updater (much like Sprint did for the Samsung Moment), either through Cricket's website or Kyocera or Sanyo's website so customers aren't swarming the Cricket stores to get the update.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] davmicnei:
Anything new for 2.1 ?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
Yeah, I have reached the conclusion that no one at Cricket has a clue about what is happening with the 2.1 upgrade. I have dialed customer service from my phone and spoke to the person who was obviously in India on the other end of the call and he said that he never heard of Android 2.1 except on the Ascend (no kidding, this is what he told me).

I have called three of the local corporate owned stores, every time I ask someone there they are like:

"oh yeah, we got the upgrade in".

So I asked, "Great, how do I get it?"

they said, "come on in and we will take care of it".

I said great, how long does it take?"

They said, "about as long as it would take to activate the new phone".

so I said "oh so I would have to get a new phone for the upgrade?"

They said "yeah, it is called the Ascend"

So I said "um...this phone just came out like 2 months ago, you already want me to trade it in? What happened to the Zio software upgrade to Android 2.1?"

They said "What software upgrade are you talking about?"

And so I said "The one we were promised by Cricket and Kyocera that we were supposed to get when the phone came out"

and they said "I don't know anything about that".

That is how it went down at three different stores.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rudebeats:
They better be joking around.. this is only reason i got a ZIO cuz i thought it would upgrade. They better fix dis ASAP! And atleast give us a official date even if it is next year. At least i'll have a peace of mind! Come on Cricket!!! GET YOUR GAME TOGETHER!!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Baadooby:
Ok so I have been following this thread for a LONG time but never made a user account until today. I have recently bought the ZIO about 5 days ago after doing TONS of research on which one to choose between the ZIO and the Ascend. And spec wise the winner hands down is the ZIO therefore I bought it, with the of course anticipation of the 2.1 OS update. . . Eventually. . .

Now on topic. I have a LG Ally with Verizon as well as my new ZIO and they are pretty close competitors spec wise. Except I would kill to have a QWERTY key pad on the ZIO. Anywho comparing the 2 of them using ONLY the VIRTUAL QWERTY. The LG ALLY is WAY more "Fat Finger" friendly. My wife is using the ZIO mainly right now and she has used my Ally and LOVES the QWERTY. The question comes up that is the QWERTY modified in the jump from 1.6 to 2.1. Again the research I have done stats that there is a MUCH needed improvement in the 2.1 virtual QWERTY over the 1.6 but they don't state WHAT?!?!

So I am going to stop by a local Sprint store and see if they have a ZIO to demo with the 2.1 and then I will reply back.

If anyone else knows if there is a fat finger update with 2.1 please let me know.

Later.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
Download SwiftKey. Best keyboard ever. Learns your typing style, predictive text, etc. free two week trial. I love it and bought it.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
Another app worth giving a shot is Better Keyboard. I have never used SwiftKey, but I will give it a try when i get home later. However I had problems with the stock keyboard on 1.6 and switched to Better Keyboard and there was a big improvement "fat finger" wise.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Baadooby:
Greg and Shadow thank you I will try those out :)

Also as an update if any of you have a Sprint store near you I would HIGHLY recommend going there and checking out the 2.1 ZIO it's amazing :) And I might add that the keyboard is WAY better then the 1.6.

Now if only we could get the update. . . And maybe a 2.2 update in the next 6 months ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Slipknot303:
Just registered to add this to the discussion. This is the response I got from Kyocera a few days ago, not Cricket, but for what it's worth:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Baadooby:
seen that email before :(
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] topherdownfrown:
Any further word on an update?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Denver Hunter:
I have tried all the keyboards out there.. for fat fingers I highley recommend Big Buttons Keyboard.. solved all my keyboard problems
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jcaf77:
If you have a zio hold on to it the ascend is inferior than the zio im using the ascend right now and I cant play games at a decent speed like u can with the zio this because the processor on the zio is newer and has an indeoendent graphics opengl processor
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] gregnotcraig:
But you can't play Angry Birds on the Zio! I don't know if it's because of the OS components in 1.6 vs 2/2.1 or the processor.

I have to swipe my girlfriend's Moment to slingshot those darn birds.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jcaf77:
Yes u can just download if from certain websites look for app repositories ...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 68mustangjim:
I know I know

Wait for it. Wait for it. LMAO

Update news what I bunch of crap.

I have said it before Kyocera and Sanyo should be embarrass to have put out a phone with 1.6 Or for cricket for even asking.

Hang your heads low.

Feb 13 no word yet.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Spz0:
Derp..
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 68mustangjim:
Cricket hello

But it is the misinformation that is most troublesome. I do believe the popularity of the Droid on cricket should say something.

Some at cricket needs to take owner ship for this. If it not in there budget tell us. Be honest. I have been with them since they rolled out here in phoenix. Hell I even fought the x-wife for control of my phone and account. And yes I am one of those cheap SOB who waited till it was under $200.

But they put 2.1 on the Ascend but not the ZIO. Maybe if the customer had not known of 2.1 there would be less gripeing.

I research the hell out of both phones I chose the ZIO because it seems to be a better phone. They put 2.1 on the Ascend and they put 2.1 on the Sprint ZIO.

Cricket CEO please tell us. When the hell are you going to release the update? OTA or walk in I don't care.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] z3r0t0l0rEnCe:
Two more days ladies and gentleman. Here's to actually hoping we get 2.2!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] djjosh:
Is Cricket still supporting our phone

Sorry, this phone is not available in your market

I have been waiting with you guys and getting the no firmware update availible

Im getting tired of having to remove the battery or powering off and on to stop the bugs on this thing and ashamed of the delayed screen that chases my finger when swiped back and forth. but I bought it and it gets the job done if i reset it

Why is the phone not on the wbsite :confused:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] itrustno1:
WOW!!!! I thought i was the only one with that problem. At least once a day i gota do the same thing to get it working again. Ill even admit, I sometimes do it by choice when it starts getting sluggish. I mean sluggish-er.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] itrustno1:
How bout this one, watching YouTube in "normal quality" is brutal enough, but after setting it to "watch in high quality" it freezes every 8-10sec for 30-45sec through out the whole video. 3min video takes what seems like 22min!!! Or is it just mine?????
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pyraxiate:
Nope freezes on mine too sadly. I really hope there is truth to an update. Lord knows we need it to make this phone what it should be. Spec wise it should outperform most other Android handsets that are sub-snapdragons.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] djjosh:
Zio

I was forced to stop using my plastic case/bump protector that snaps around the Zio, Why because at least 4 times while watching a youtube video it locked up and the speaker locked into a loud BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZ while I tried to snap off the case without breaking it and fast because people where staring but the stupid case needs a small tool or strong fingernail.. well the Zio made me break that case

wifi/data connection sometimes says it on but its off but wont turn off or on untill reboot. bluetooth says it connected but sound comes from phone, until reboot we all know about the keyboard nuf said. sometimes the backlight goes off and locks half a sec after i unlock the again and again until I reboot and sometimes theres a 5 second lag to just open the contacts or dailer also every one in a while the touch doesent let me ulock the phone until the 4th or 5th try
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] djjosh:
And how the heck does you tube video freeze when 10 feet from the wifi router
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] EQUANT:
Great stuff, thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] itrustno1:
Hey, not everyone has wi-fi, my nearest "wi-fi" spot is about a 35min drive. YouTube has always been freezing, fresh out of the box (but only when I select WATCH IN HIGH QUALITY) normal quality is too harsh to watch and a 4min video viewed in HQ takes about 12-13min. They didn't tell me any of that when I was counting all that cash to buy this........phone.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] itrustno1:
YUP! YES SIR!! FINALLY I'M HEARING SOMEONE ELSE SAY WHAT IV BEEN TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE SINCE THE 2nd DAY I GOT IT.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] itrustno1:
Ooo ooo, I got another one, how bout the mind-numbing Gallery that seems to pointlessly create more and more folders of files that are ALREADY in a folder to begin with! (scary if its just mine doing that)

Please, at anytime stop me if its just me not having things set up right. If so please inform me.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] umadandjelly:
Your phones gallery loads something at least. When I try to look through my gallery of pictures I get the whole "Loading" splash screen for what seems like hours, then eventually after I'm over looking through my pictures, they'll load.

I usually have to look at my pictures through the file browser, I have no clue whats up with the phone having so much trouble to find pictures using the gallery.

****ty phone is ****ty, and needs an update.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Spz0:
These aforementioned problems are all the result of the OS, not the phone itself. Just be patient; the update is coming soon ladies.

In the meantime, try a factory reset (I've never had the YouTube problem before as mentioned above) for the YouTube issue. The gallery on 1.6 is hopeless unfortunately. :-\

Also, all of you using adw, turn "system persistent" on to stop fc's of your home screen. Hope that helps :-)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] hofuldig:
To you guys who are on 1.6 i feel bad for you. but after reading and reading and reading it seems that 2.1 is not what you want either.

I have a sprint ZIO and it came with 2.1 on it and almost all the problems i have heard about 1.6 still happen on 2.1

The touch screen is bad like when i am texting i will hit H for some reason an A comes up. (OS didn't fix it i guess) i have never had any problems with the picture gallery. i heard someone say that when you flick the screen it moves like 5 seconds later (lagg lol) i don't get that all the time on 2.1 but it still happens and is quite annoying.

at this point i cant think of anything else. i for one am hoping for 2.2 or 2.3
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sirholiday:
I'm a little freaked out by the "Sorry, this phone is not available in your market." message!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] djjosh:
Me too, I don't think they mention the android version on the website specs so why did they remove it are they really just dumping the phone and leaving us out in the cold

or just planing a big re release with 2.2 all over the ad
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] killa619:
It could be possible they will dump the zio.cricket is going to be coming out with a couple new android phones soon, so who knows. Just got to wait and find out.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Spz0:
I don't experience any of that when I watch YouTube, normal or HQ. If you have full bar 3g reception, there's no way it should take 13 minutes to load. Perhaps you are encountering interference from other wireless devices in your house? Dunno. I'd suggest a factory reset.

As for them telling you, they just sell the phone, its what they're paid to do, research is the consumers responsibility.

It's a mid range phone, and handles exceptionally well for what it is, even with 1.6.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
I think this is just making a big deal out of nothing. If they are going to get an update on the Zio, it makes sense that they would clear their inventory of the old ones before they get their stock of the updated ones in.

Now, anyone keeping on top of Zio news knows that Metro PCS cancelled their Zio order because Kyocera was taking too long on the update and Metro PCS did not want to sell the phone with the older version on it. That being the case, it is the most likely scenario that Cricket cleared their inventory before Kyocera could fill the new order.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] djjosh:
nwait , so my zio with the update will not be equal to the zio i mean why dont they take the old phones and run the update uunless something else is getting updated too if thats the case i want to exchange mine for the better one its just an update right there acting like its a whole new phone
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
You're reading too much into this. The reason they don't run the update on old phones in the store is they would have to remove everything from the packaging, charge the phones and then when they try to sell them, "picky" people will claim the phone is "used" and not "new" (if you have ever worked with the public, you know exactly how some people can be...you are a good example of this in assuming there is something "better" about buying the Zio with the update as opposed to updating it yourself), and the phones can actually be considered “open box” at that point. Plus they will have to have their sales people do the updates and we all know how reliable most of Cricket's sales people are.

In short, it is simply less of a hassle for them to just sell off the old ones and make the customer to the upgrade themselves.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] killanat3:
Give me give me give me 2.2 please! As far as, glitching I have had all the aforesaid problems! What about the data connection dropping when there's full bars of EV,and you have to disabled and re enable it to get it to work that's my favorite by far I do it at least 16 times a day!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] djjosh:
Hey I did not assume anything that was a question , me trying to make sense out off the missing phone if its a different phone it will or should be better and if you have ever been in a cricket store you would see they open the boxes all the time. I could care less as long as its not scratched and works 'and doesnt have some new chip that makes it work faster' Stop making excuses for them just give me my dam update or new phone or ill get a droid bionic and pay double to have my ipod replacement
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] itrustno1:
WOW, when I bought my Zio, I walked in with my samsung sch-r500 and slid it on the display n said, HI- ILL TAKE ONE ZIO PLEASE (not realizing they wer UNBOXING zio's) BUT ONE THAT HASN'T BEEN OPENED! Literally stacked an empty zio box, then a lil booklet, software disc, oh yeah and a zio. It was BRAN-NEW, but didn't have the sdcard. Next day, they put one in....briked! NEXT DAY, A "CLEAR AS DAY" USED ONE WAS HANDED TO ME, but it worked. Then it was all UP hill from there. $289.65 MISTAKE. Lota presses to do ANYTHING. Its got its up's n down's.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] itrustno1:
When frustration with my zio starts peaking, I just remind myself bout the time I went to put $60 on my Flex Bucket thinking id be able to buy full version apps from the adroid market, nope u need a credit card. HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!IF I HAD A F***IN CREDIT CARD I WOULDN'T BE WITH CRICKET!!!! Have any of u seen what cricket offers for flex bucket purchases!!

"Now I'm so broke I can't even pay attention!!"
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
Some how people get this idea that trying to explain something is "making excuses". I am not excusing anything. If you want a different phone, it is not going to hurt my feelings any, by all means, knock yourself out. Maybe it will help you calm down before you burst an artery.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
First, I have a credit card and I am with Cricket. Not only do I have a Master Card credit card but I also have a Visa Debit card from my bank that can be used on the Android market (so you don't need a credit card, just the ability to open a bank account). Some people are with Cricket because it is a way to save some money versus other carries, not because they don't have or can't get a credit card.

Second, Android Market is used by everyone who has an Android phone, not just Cricket...which leads me to...

Third, I have never read anything that has led me to believe that Flex Bucket and Android Market are one and the same. Before dropping down your cash, you need to be sure that you know what you're doing or suffer the consequences of your mistakes.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] itrustno1:
No need to get all technical there mr plastic money, mr holding up the line at the store while we wait for u to enter ur pin and sign that little paper and all that stuff, when I asked how to buy apps from Android Market they said U HAVE TO ADD MONEY TO UR FLEX BUCKET, next day I walked in to say it didn't work, they said U GOTA USE UR CREDIT CARD (obviously assuming everyone on earth has one).

"Now I'm so broke I can't even pay attention!!"
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] tlc08071:
Just received an email from Cricket few days ago about new os upgrade

___________________________________________________________________

This was the email I just got a few days ago from Cricket about an upgrade they SAY they are working on coming out with for the Zio.

Below is the response they gave back to me on 2-16-2011.

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Thank you for contacting Cricket Email Support.

We would like to inform you that Cricket is working closely with Kyocera for the best process to transition to the ZIO with Android 2.2. We recommend that you please visit Cricket website at from time to time for more information on the availability of the said upgrade.

Sincerely,

Customer Relations Team

5775 DTC Blvd.

Greenwood Village, CO 80111
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] MagickalShadow:
All that tells me is that you never even looked at Android Market before you went throwing your money away. It doesn't take much to figure it out once you have actually seen it.

Oh, and I know you have a technological deficiency and all, but PIN numbers and signing receipts are out dated by today’s standards of using Blink, PayPass and ExpressPay. It is actually faster than cash in most cases. By the end of the year, there will actually be apps to use your "card" by simply "bumping" your phone.

Pretty soon the only people holding up the line, will be the same people who can't figure out Android Market...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] itrustno1:
Plastic money, bumping phones to pay for stuff, WOW.......seems like people are trusting the "sytem" a lil tooooo much these days. Oh have u noticed my username. cash is still the fastest way of payment, especially if ur already handing it the person at the register BEFORE they can even say ur total, like i do. Anyways, back to the Android Market thing, NO SALES REP SHOULD GIVE FALSE INFO, MISLEADNG INFO, LIE, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT JUST TO MAKE A SALE. hey Android Market, how bout a way for us NON CREDIT CARD owners to buy apps, like those $5 $10 $15 cards bought at Rite-Aid n Gas-N-Go places! then u can make even more $$$$.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 68mustangjim:
For all of you that your ZIO is freezing

I have a questions did you by a bigger mirco SD card I did I bought a 16gig Wintec from Frys my first one was a Class 10 card (has to do with speed) complain to Wintec there tech told some device do not like fast card so I exchange it for a class 4 card I thought it was mispackage. Try again put a class 4 16 gig card no more locking up. So check your cards even the 1gig see what speed they are rated at.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] itrustno1:
pretty soon the only ones holding up the line will be the people pissed off and confused why the plastic bumping thing stopped working CAUSE SOMEBODY HACKED EM FOR ALL THEY GOT!!!! but hey, it is what it is but it aint what it should! C-mon Android Market, why target credit card owners only when u can have cash customers too?