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[Windows Phone 7 General] Tom Servo:
So, you're one of the people that always need to put their phone into view of every one, instead of your pocket, just to show off or what?
[Windows Phone 7 General] chubnut:
Dude, I have to say my girlfriends iPhone does this, my X1i does this (both when it was 6.1 and now 6.5) , the guy who sits behind me at work with a Desire does it. The notification usually disappears fairly quickly.

I sort of sympathise where your are coming from but, if someone at your office goes to read your notification on your phone if it is on your desk, your issue is with your colleague and you need to slap them upside their head and tell them to behave.....and to be honest, you'll probably forward that dirty joke onto them anyway and most probably let them know what your wife has in store for you when you get home just to make them jealous :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Dude, I have to say with those other phones you can disable the text on the lock screen. Don't know if this is possible with the iPhone though.
[Windows Phone 7 General] chubnut:
True, you can although I haven't and I'm waiting for the gf to get in the shower so I can play with her iPhone ;)... but my comment I think is still valid. Colleagues shouldn't be invading privacy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ebzrascal:
It about Microsoft limiting choice to a stupid level or not thinking things through. In this case I don`t want personal or business information that is intended for me to be seen by someone else. I don`t think people are intentionally invading space really because it might be an innocent reaction of someone`s eyes being drawn to a message flashing on the screen of my phone.

I actually need my phone to be visible to react to missed calls etc... Not to show it off as someone suggested!! I don`t want to hide my phone every-time someone walks over to my desk to discuss something with me.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Those are really valid points.
[Windows Phone 7 General] chubnut:
Look - I'm not disagreeing with you about the fact that they should give us all the relevant options. I love to tinker and tinker with everything and I want the same options as you. My phone also sits on my desk in a desk stand in plain view so I can do just as you do. I have people constantly coming to my desk. If the phone goes off, it goes off but I continue dealing with the matter at hand and fix their attention to me not my phone - or they get a slap :D.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DominikZ:
Another major feature missing for me:

Subscribed Calendars (e.g. Birthday Calendar from Windows Live) are not synced with the phone. You can't add an Internet Based Calendar as well (e.g. ical - without e-mail)
[Windows Phone 7 General] evilangelic:
Agreed, just posted this to another thread.

Coming from an Android phone, with such tight google integration, WP7 is really depressingly lacking options & settings... not sure how I'm going to be able to use this phone other than it looking pretty at the moment...
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Can't Sync Google Tasks. No Google Reader integration. Picasa Integration is barebones. Google Talk doesn't support file transfers (but Talk on BlackBerry supports it?). There are many shortcomings in the Google Integration on Android.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lioso:
Yes, it's really annoying, i'm used to work with 3 or more calendars at the same time, at least live calendars should work!
[Windows Phone 7 General] evilangelic:
Wait til you try WP7 lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
The way I use my phone, it won't matter. I also use my computer more than my phone, so none of the crap people are complaining about will hamper me in using WP7. It will be totally fine, and I don't know if anything can get worse than Android at the moment.
[Windows Phone 7 General] AceofSpades25:
It needs to display icons when you swipe right to the application list. Most people have 50+ apps on their smart phone. Nobody wants to scroll through a list of 50+ apps.

Give us icons and display them in a hex grid like you did with wm6.5, also allow us to group shortcuts into folders so we can keep all our games in 1 place.
[Windows Phone 7 General] krjcook:
To the guys complaining about the txt message privacy at the lock screen. Do you guys leave your screen on at all times? So you complain about your message being seen with your screen on and visible?
[Windows Phone 7 General] krjcook:
But there are few problems I need solved.

*Calendar support isn't ideal for me. I have multiple calendars; Personal, Homework, Sports, etc.

*App closes after your screen turns off or you go to lock screen. Doesn't make sense to keep opening the app when the screen goes off. Sometimes I might be doing something and put my phone down for sometime, I'd hate that when I come back the game or app I was using closed and I didn't save anything.

Multitasking - I don't really have a problem the way MS handles this feature, just wish they would hurry up and revise the rules. Like timed multitasking, if you stay away too long, lets say 5 mim, the app would timeout and close or pause. I don't want full multitasking like Android or Web OS, because I'm sick of my phone being sluggish.

File System Access - Though I am tech savvy and a power user with android I don't care if I get full access to the file system. I think MS should and ultimately will do a method like the Apple's Ipod. You'll be given very limited access to a file system, such as a folder made you can view in Windows Explorer. I want this for only one reason and that's Console Emulators.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JediFonger:
no custom ring tone is a killer for me. i use the star trek communicator chirp as my ringtone. i don't respond to anything else. i will forget my cellphone is ringing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ebzrascal:
If the screen is off it wakes up for 5 seconds to display the text message then goes off again ........why they dont allow you to switch this off I dont know!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Churchill:
4. Start a new email click on the + sign at the end of the To: field whuich takes you to People. Click on the Search button and start typing the name of the person you are looking for, right when you start typing an option will apear to search Company Directory :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] roycio:
You can also slide the notification to the right to dismiss it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Krissrock:
well..what I want to know is: someone please name a single phone that has allllll the features you guys are complaining WP7 doesn't?

I understand some ppl's frustration by not having an option for every single thing...but at the same time, you're wow'd by the performance of the phone. MS made some of these choices to keep it simple. The more complex they would have made the OS, the greater the likelihood for bugs and performance issues.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
It's not about Simple vs. Complex.

Everything isn't about me-me-me[!]. It's about the entire community, and that community includes the ridiculous minority that seems to love trolling XDA forums bashing the OS.

If you want an OS that is a tinkerer's heaven, get an Android or WinMobile phone and have fun with the poor support, hit or miss performance and in many cases the rushed QA/QC and shoddy build quality of the phones. Also have fun dealing with Apps popping up on the Market stating they don't support your phone or the Version of Android your phone runs.

You can go ROM hopping and hack your phone up to fix it.

If that's the kind of system you like tinkering with, WP7 isn't for you. You can stop trolling this forum and defiling it with your verbal (or written, rather) diarrhea, and have fun tinkering with those OSes.

If you want a streamlined system that is friendly to developers, then you have WP7 and iOS. Even Windows Mobile 6.5 has a better development environment than Android, but it's still terrible due to the fragmentation across Windows Mobile devices... Nokia is trying hard at that front, but the way they are developing their OS... I'm not going to touch a MeeGo device (not to mention the UI on MeeGo looks like ****, anyways).

It's not hard to make choices. You don't need a Majority of posters on XDA forums to convince you which device to get, or whether you've made a good choice. Use your brain and make educated decisions for yourself. That's something we, humans, should have learned to do prior to puberty.

In the meantime, some people will laugh when an Android fanboi sayd "It's coming in Android x.x" which 75% of the time implies ROM hopping or buying a new device, while iOS and WP7 users talk about how the update to their phone will add functionality or fix a certain problem. The TCO of Android as well as the Time Investment Requirement is looking rather stiff compared to the competition at the moment.

Have fun spending $1200-2k on phones per year, power users. Some people actually like getting supported (not warranty voiding support, real support) over the life of their cell phone contract (and even beyond).
[Windows Phone 7 General] hsolo:
Still doesn't work for me......no option to search GAL appears. I doubt it is because of the phone (Focus), since the OS has to be the same across devices (MS).

Do you know what version of Exchange you are running? We are on Exchange 2003. I like the OS, but can't recommend WP7 as a Company supported device without this functioality. If I can find out if it is an Exchange 2003 / 2007 difference, I will happily upgrade Exchange (just want to avoid that extra work if possible).
[Windows Phone 7 General] ajftl:
not able to send video mms... need to add that too...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
I dont like:

1. Every single Email account has to have it's own tile. Cloud honey, cloud.. cloud it up all in one tile!

2. That Apps list loading looks heavy, I bet once other companies start making apps and we start installing them, than by the time we get to Apps list, we will have to do the infamous 'Soft Reset'!

3. I tend to suffocate without the ability to multi-task.. I write 'multitasking' as my strength on my Resume for jobs. :(

4. I want Asus too launch a WP7 model soon!! I missed out on Asus P750 and opted for HP Ipaq 614C a year or two back, and I regret that decision every morning in my life since than. Plz Asus launch a WP7 phone and WITH the physical qwerty non-sliding keys like in that beautiful ASUS P750!

5. SD Expansion slot, I know in days on streaming music I dont really need more than 16GB.. but still I want an option to have it.. simply making a backup of whole phone data once every week takes a lot of memory.. and I also Auto-record all my incoming and outgoing calls all the time.. and it takes a lot of memory.. I want an option to expand.. is it really that hard to not put that screw in their???!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
WHAT??!! Thats insane!! Even Nokia can do it..
[Windows Phone 7 General] Purple11:
Windows Mobile 6.5
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Find someone with an Exchange 2010 account and see if they can Search Global Address List from a WP7 device.

Depending on the version of Exchange and the even the Service pack (in the case of Exchange 2003 without service packs you don't even get HTML email to mobile devices over ActiveSync) functionality can be different.

If you can just upgrade Exchange the way you imply you can, why bother sticking to such an old version?
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Nope.

No Multiple Exchange/ActiveSync accounts. No Native Social network integration. No push messaging platform. No sane, standardized way to handle notifications. No HD video recording (had to be disabled in the HD2 at the hardware level, IIRC, because WM 6.5 doesn't support it). There are many others.

It's not built for touch interfaces, and trying to revamp that creates hordes of issues, because there are thousands of WinCE applications that are built with a stylus and their functionality and/or user interfaces would break if Microsoft revamped the OS like that.

Windows Mobile 6.5 is also fragmented as ****, and sticking with WM6.5 would have done way more harm than good. It was necessary to break cleanly away from it. They didn't have a choice.

You people don't run Microsoft, so it doesn't surprise anyone that you're oblivious to it. But WM6.5 was a dead end for Microsoft. They should have dropped it and "started over" 5 years ago.

Also, there was no way Microsoft would be able to retroactively enforce hardware requirements, and part of the issue with Windows Mobile is that manufacturers were developing devices with low end Blackberry Curve specs (BlackJack, Jack, Epix, HP iPAQs, etc.) and selling them for HTC HD2 prices. The whole thing was one huge mess.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hsolo:
Simple really: Too many (not as important) projects, overworked, under staffed, under paid. Family owned business that has zero family members that know anything about what is important from an IT perspective. It's taken me 8 years to finally get a co-location approved. My favorite was when I got asked one day why the server (singular!) was slow today. They have no idea that we have more than one!! My other favorite was when I was asked why we needed to upgrade to a newer OS. I was greeted with the response of "when are they going to release a stable version!"

To quote my network engineer: "They want to build a flashy casino on the ship when the ship is about to sink?":mad:
[Windows Phone 7 General] silenzzzz:
just a note .. on iOS you can have it not display the contents of a text on the lock screen .. it will only then show the name and say you have a message from them and nothing more...
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Prolly cheaper/easier to just outsource to a reputable Exchange host, IMO.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
1. A few people will take 1 local sync + 1 exchange over zero local and many cloud. Which is worse no native or none at all? Valid point. So which is more useful to the average smartphone user, HD video or mass storage, multitasking, local activesync, etc? The question is not who is missing the most features, it is who is missing the most useful features to the average smartphone user.

2. Valid point.

3. That has nothing to do with features lacking.

4. You run Microsoft so you are not oblivious? You people? The air must be thin up there.

Everything must be a stray away from the point. Yes, no phone has every feature and I suspect many people understand that. Some phones are water resistant like the Motorola Defy. Some phones have USB on the go like in the N8. But if we compare WinMo 6.5 to the first iteration to WP7 at doing tasks that smartphone users might find themselves doing I think WinMo 6.5 wins. We need to stop closing our eyes to that fact. WP7 has a better foundation but it has some growing to do.

The market is not as open as it was when Apple came in. It is saturated with Android handsets and iPhone sales. And now Nokia is trying to be relevant again. You need to try and get the best start possible.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
At this stage I think I can deal with most WP7 missing features, because I know that currently WP7 is just a nice draft.

But there is really one feature that I need back: USB mass storage.

USB mass storage is definitely what can still make any WM phone better than the iPhone in my opinion.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hsolo:
Please don't get me wrong: I LOVE my Focus and wp7. However, there are some features that I really miss from wm6.5 that I hope will make it to wp7 soon.

One of these that I have not seen anyone mention to date (maybe I am the only one that this is important for) is the ability to set peak times against active sync. I only want my phone to check for new e-mail between 7am and 10pm. I don't want to be in an hotel and have my phone make a sound at 3am because I received an e-mail. But I do want it to ring if I get a phone call.

Anyone else notice this missing feature?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Krissrock:
what's the big deal...i'm sure all of you have had phones that you've kept for years with features missing and you put up with it. You've obviously had a different phone before you got a wp7 phone, i'm sure that has some and is missong some features the wp7 and other phones have...you dealt with it.

i'm sure some developer or MS will attempt to accomodate you down the line
[Windows Phone 7 General] hsolo:
Actually, every phone I have ever had has this ability.....mainly because I was one of the early adaptors of WM, and have only had Windows phones.

But you are missing the point: I am not knocking WP7, simply bringing to the foreground features that are important to me. It is only through this type of communication that MS can learn what is important to users, and look to bring these feature in on future updates. Without feedback from customers, products stagnate.
[Windows Phone 7 General] markgamber:
Like a lot of things, just because YOU don't think something is a big deal doesn't mean it's NOT a big deal, it simply means YOU don't think it's a big deal. Personally, I find that a text message is displayed over a lock screen is a huge security hole, one that has been addressed by most of the phones I've owned lately (all the phones I own, I think, but I'll be generous) and needs to be addressed by Microsoft. If YOU don't think it's a big deal and it doesn't affect you in any way, then why belittle my (or anyone else's) post? Post something constructive or leave it alone. Jesus didn't write WP7 and neither did you, you have no more of a stake in WP7 than I do. Quite possibly less, in fact. I can think of a whole host of things I'd like to see ASAP in WP7 but I'm not going to post them because I don't need some "glass is half empty" type tearing it apart, as if that in any way, form or shape helps anything or anyone.

Just sayin'. It gets freaking old fast, people.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sealight:
One detail that really annoys me is the vibration on back, win and search keys. It seems to be impossible to disable at the moment.
[Windows Phone 7 General] anhyeuemmaimai:
I have a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and it does NOT display the message until you actually go to the message screen or click on the message icon at the top
[Windows Phone 7 General] anhyeuemmaimai:
I love how they say it's a "new" os but you get the same winmo 6.5 dialog screen when you have a connection failure and other error messages lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] chmckay:
Technically it's not an entirely new OS. It's still Windows CE under the hood. Though, it's running CE 6, which has a lot of XP/Vista/7 enhancements that CE5 didn't have (which WM6.5 was based on).
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Those are standard windows controls.

The OS is new in the same way Vista was new compared to XP.

Entire layers of the OS have been rewritten, the application requirements are different, and libraries that were required for WinMo 6.x applications are either radically changed, deprecated, or completely missing in WP7.

WinMo 6.x applications would crash instantly before they could even display their UI elements on WP7, and .NET CF applications probably wouldn't run at all.

On top of that, many of the APIs used by WinMo applications simply woulnd't even work on WP7.

Yes, the OS is new, and an OS whose only real security was a lock screen (WM 6.5 - because manufacturers skimped out on most everything they could) as a business device was always a sort of a joke. WM was still living in the 90s. It had to go.

Microsoft did try adding touch features, etc. on top of it, but there was only so much they could do.

So, they leveraged ZuneHD's platform and built on top of that instead (with heavy modifications, of course).
[Windows Phone 7 General] ruscik:
N8ter you do repeat yourself a lot ;)

BTW if WP7 is so great why all MS company phones will still be sold with winmo 6.5.3 just rebranded to winmo professional.

Microsoft is aware that Winmo 6.5.3 is great product and only reason wp7 is the way it is has nothing to do with customer wanting it they just want a fire and forget missile. The less functions WP7 has the more it is like that and many functions will nto be intorduced as they want that easy, dumbed down OS to run forever.

Point is if they did listen to customers the phone would at least have copy&paste as when iOS arrived that was 1st thing people complained about.

Also Zune is not all that great Activesync was wat 20mb zune is 500 almost, another software that hinders your PC so that you have a fancy way to copy pictures and music. Have you seen how easy it is to sync music and keep it up to date using WMP and even SD card?! Just plug it in and click sync.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
That's because lots of people either misinterpret what is written, or have poor reading comprehension.

I repeat these things until the point sinks in.

You don't expect me to change stances on everything everytime someone replies to it, do you?

Sorry if you do :P

Zune is not 500MB:

On my 64-Bit system it's only like 10MB bigger, if even that. EDIT: 77.6MB on 64-Bit Windows 7.

Zune is more than a media manager and Sync Application. It's also a Music Player, a Photo Viewer, and Video Player as well as you a Zune and Windows Marketplace Client. I don't know where you get 500MB from, and I don't see why you're even bothering to compared a full-fledged media application that has duplicated most core Windows Media Player functionalities to Microsoft ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center...
[Windows Phone 7 General] lqaddict:
Since you know it all, and also pointed our how the mobile device have changed our life style with all the gadgery included, like HD camcorders. Now how do you share that video you've just taken with the world via Youtube?
[Windows Phone 7 General] ruscik:
Well my one is about 500MB as even when I selected small version to install it still started downloading updates, loads of them.

As you said zune duplicates all built in media players..... why?

WMP can view pictures, play video, music, podcast, internet radio and even has a store to browse so yes it is waste of time zune as you said it duplicates all.

I do not expect you or any one to change their mind on the fly but there is a lot more people that disagree with you which sets the tone.

On top of that MS did not stop developing 6.5.3 which should suggest something.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
To upload videos from the phone to YouTube:

That being said, I don't use my phone's video camera for videos all that much because I do a lot of video analysis and anything < 60 FPS is useless for me. I use a MiniDV connected to a laptop via FireWire with Pro-Trainer software.

A phone camera IRT video recording is not much of a factor for me. I just need at least a 5MP camera on it with decent zooming and low light performance.

But I'm an outliner. Most consumers looking for a new phone these days cry when they hear some awesome device has only VGA-level back camera recording.
[Windows Phone 7 General] anhyeuemmaimai:
1. WinMo 6.5.x is moving to be an embedded platform so that is why it is not going anywhere and MS continues it's development.(WP7 would suck ass as an embedded OS)

2. Win Xp should have died a while ago but people got all butthurt when MS moved to vista and it got a bad rap dispite being a far better launch than XP was (doubt me? go spend some time reading the early reviews of XP), Windows XP support outside of SP3 has already been terminated and Come 2014, XP is going bye bye support wise.....

3. WMP can play anything you can get a codec for outside of Blu-ray (that relies upon a JRE)

4. Apple ended support for PPC roughly 4 years after they switched to Intel (2005) which is right in line for those users to get new macs (typical users upgrade every 3-5 years)

Microsoft typically supports OS for a very long time this has always been the case