[Windows Phone 7 General] tboy2000:
crow26 wrote:

Emphasis added. How many live tiles do show information? The calendar and people you add - that's it. The other tiles only show numbers. The iPhone can do that as well. There will be hardly any third party developers who create live tiles. The result will be a grid of static tiles (=huge icons), just like the iPhone homescreen.

TB: I am not saying which OS is better or worse. I am just correcting your statements in your first post which were incorrect. You were primarily saying most things were a lie which is not the case. Plus how do you know if there will be hardly any developers creating third party tiles. Have you interviewed them all? Must have taken ages. Well done!

The back button only takes you to the previous app. For everything else you need to go back to the start screen, just like with an iPhone. That's "jumping in and out of apps" - nothing else.

TB: Sorry but you are wrong. As mentioned in the 'anandtech' review, the back button cycles you back through SEVERAL of the last apps you have used without having to exit and launch, exit and launch, exit and launch etc. Not just the previous app. EG: If you launched Messaging -> Start -> Email -> Start -> IE -> Start -> Zune and then you continuously hit the back button, it would take you to those screens in this order: Zune -> Start -> IE -> Email -> Messaging. Therfore you do not need to launch each app again and therefore you are not jumping in and out of apps.

Facebook is the only service on the web, right? There are no other services that could be integrated, right? Wrong.

Actually again you are wrong. Youtube is another famous web service which is also integrated into the phone once you install the official app. Your last played web youtube videos are shown in the recents page of the Videos hub. Youtube videos are treated the same way as a video on your phone. Another example of good integration.

WP7 brings nothing new to the table.

TB: Absolutely nothing crow? Not even a teeny weeny thing new to the table? Absolutely is a strong word you know. Do you know what it means?

That was the whole point of my post. The truth is, you will NOT launch less apps, because the integration of information doesn't work the way it should.

TB: Hello? Once you are in the Peoples page or Videos page, you are not launching any apps. You are already in one app and you are just cycling through pages to see contacts or facebooks updates or youtube videos etc. So therefore you are not launching seperate apps and therefore you ARE launching LESS apps. How can you say the integration does not work the way it should???

You know what's much easier than cycling through the apps using the back button? Just launching the quick app switcher. Android has it, iOS has it, webOS has it, Symbian has it... (Android even has a back button AND a quick app switcher)

TB: All OSs including IOS and Android were not perfect on launch and needed several rom updates to add missing features and make things better. If they were perfect from day one there would be no rom updates. But there are plenty. What you are doing is comparing the present state of these other rom updated OSs to a virgin new OS (WP7) which is an unfair comparison. If you want to make a fair comparison, then compare this new WP7 viginial rom to Android's and IOS first rom. You have to give this phone a chance before slating it.

No, you can't. You will see static tiles, hardly different from the static grid of icons in iOS.

TB: Re glanceable info, I am sorry you are wrong again. When you turn on the phone the first thing you see is the LOCK SCREEN - not the TILES SCREEN. Therefore you DO SEE important information at a glance. You see static tiles AFTER the lock screen. Capish?