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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jcsy:
im using elegancia for winmo, froyostone for android

works like a charm with minimal issues..

radio rom 2.14 and 2.15 are most stable with battery usage fixed

there are many other combinations though
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] SpacemanGep:
I disagree that you have to be super duper tech savvy to do this kind of stuff. A little bit of linux background doesn't hurt, but if you're comfortable with with tinkering and willing to learn and mess around some, Android on the HD2 isn't that big of a project. On the other hand, there is a fair amount trial/error and therefore a fair amount of time needs to be invested into getting your perfect Android build.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
The hd2 will probably never run android as well as a galaxy s. It will always be a hacked on version of android on the hd2. A rooted galaxy with all the hacks you will find here on xda will make the galaxy run much smoother and better than the hd2. And i'm sure you will get gingerbread rom as quick as the hd2 does here on xda. It may not be official, but neither is any of hd2s builds. If you want to run android full time, stick with a native android phone. If you want to also have winmo on your phone, then the hd2 is a good choice... but don't expect to run android better on a hd2. The galaxy has a better CPU and gpu ... when you root it and apply fixes found here on xda, it will run android better than any current phone out there... except maybe the desire HD.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] psykick5:
I'm using 2.15 ROM with ChunkyDroidROM and random Mdeejay builds.

One thing to remember with an HD2 with Android, if anything goes wrong, don't be angry, it wasn't supposed to have this anyway.

Cheers.

Enjoy the HD2 :D

(above post is quite true, but I enjoy the flexibility. Oh, don't forget WP7 could be in the pipeline :D )
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] eenbox:
I wouldn't say faster than all of the Android phones... one of the fastest two maybe - then yea...

Quadrant so far has been the benchmarking tool for lots of phones... Galaxy kills with points over 2000 but that's only it scores high on 3D Open GL which is not utilized by the Android OS at all - therefore, yea - HD2 is one of two fastest Android phones - and it runs it from the SD Card :) ... I can't wait for NAND version just to get rid of this WinMo junk :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] THUDUK:
Well I sold my galaxy s and bought an hd2 almost brand new and a used psp handheld with the money, I will never look back.

The galaxy s at first I loved that bright vibrant screen and the devices light weight, but soon even both of these points annoyed, the screen brightness could never be adjusted low enough for nighttime reading, the galaxy s had no flash for the camera, which I use a lot on the hd2 also this is such a powerful torch a well, but probably the biggest problem I found with my galaxy s was the unreliable gps and mine was better than some.

With the hd2 you get extreme flexibility the ability to try many many android builds you can mix and match your windows mobile roms with your android builds and play about with all kind of radios, you can try sense builds, standard builds to highly customised builds, one day on the horizon hd2 will get its chance to be a stand along android with the nand development, it might even get windows 7, my preferred choice of build is now mdeejays, evo warm with kernel 7.6, with a few tweaks and set cpui have this running all the time occasionally visiting windows mobile for the odd application that android doesn't have.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
A lot of people will give you different combinations that work, it's all a case of "your mileage may vary".

I for instance run Chuckys Tabtastic GTX rom for WinMo and MDeeJey's Froyo HD 3.6 and everything is smooth as butter, so long as you don't mind the camera not working. (That's because the actual rom it's built from doesn't have the camera code available yet, but it will come soonish).

So long as you are willing to do a lot of initial reading and have patience before you start flashing anything you should love the capabilities and flexibility of the HD2. After all, pretty soon you should also be able to run MeeGo on it as well (and who knows, maybe even Windows Phone 7??)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
That's what I expect from HD2.

I know it has more flexible than any other phones.

I bet I would like my HD2 more than galaxy s.

Nothing interest on my galaxy s actually... especially UI... hu
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
Cool!

Cool answer thanks, THUDUK. I'm on the same way as you.

I like to play with my phone but galaxy s is not really customizable..

I mean it can't available to use HTC phone's roms! haha

I love sense UI and I expect hd2 to will get windows 7 rom.

I won't look back like you THUDUK.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
Meego?

Thanks for answer Reno,

I used to use N900 which has Meego OS. But I don't think it's as good as other OS... So slow on N900 (I think due to resistive touch screen and bad CPU)..

I'm expecting HD2 will get WM7 OS..

By the way, my new HD2 is T-Mobile version..

what do I have to install in order to install the roms on my phone?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hoss_n2:
the only issue i face with android on hd2 is light sensor i can't get it t work good
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
Depends what is already in existence on your phone tbh.

There are a lot of people that say their default TMO US rom can run Android. I would however recommend flashing at least the Radio to 2.14.50 before you begin, as this will almost guarantee (obviously I cannot say 100%) to eliminate robotic voice problems.

From there, you can pick your ROM from any of the Android friendly ones if you so wish and flash that. There are probably a dozen or so that many people on here profess to love. My rom of choice is in my sig. Again, this may be optional as some people say Android works ok with stock TMO US.

From there, I would download an Android bootloader (these come as standard with a few builds, including the one I use). These enable one click loading of Android, and ensure you cannot really miss running one file (CLRCAD.EXE) before the other (HARET.EXE). One takes care of the audio in Android, the other loads the ubuntu which android sits on top of. Again this is an optional step, just makes it that bit easier.

Then, it's just a case of getting whichever build/flavour of Android takes your fancy, sticking that on your SD card (you will end up with an Android folder on your card), booting the phone and loading Android and crossing your fingers that it works!

PS: One thing that is unfortunately not optional in all this process is having patience! you may hit stumbling blocks at many points in this process but so long as you have patience, you will get there. Read the stickies in the android dev forum and in the WM rom forum and learn learn learn.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] flame10:
For 1) You don't have to be extreme tech savvy, you will like HD2 even if you are normal user (its just unraring a folder to sd card)

For 2) Extra screen size does matter .. just think about having Desire HD over samsung galaxy

For 3) Moneys always welcome ;)

Also for your rest post, I use android on my 16gb sandisk, without any SOD, I do charge once a day, and when its heavily used I do charge frequently (games & vids do take heavy toll) .. Lastly HD2 is great only due to the high development activity thanks to our developers, you won't find this anywhere (being a previous iphone user, gladly accept it)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
Thanks for useful info, RENO_79.

I want to try it right now but I have a final exam from next week.

Have to be patient.... Anyway, I will follow your instruction step by step.

Thank you so much!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] enneract:
1) ideally, but what happens if you have any problem? then you need to go hunting it down.

as for the sdcard thing... you got lucky then. I have a what is supposedly a sandisk class 6 16gb sdhc, and I had SOD issues until, as an experiment, I switched to a sandisk class 2 2gb non-hc. I'm going to acquire some more cards of various capacities and speed ratings to test more, but I strongly suspect that many, even high class, sdhc cards simply cannot deal with the iops.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
What are those?

enneract, what are "SOD" and "iops"?

and.. What problems can be happened?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] benoitb85:
You have to be aware that right now, there are 3 big issues with Android on the HD2:

Data connection drops

Battery life << winmo's battery life

G-sensor occasionnaly freezing the phone for 200ms-2000ms

Maybe SODs as well for some people ? I don't experience those anymore.

Once those (higly annoying) issues are resolved, we'll be able to say that the HD2 is an excellent Android phone.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
There has been a lot of buzz about SOME sdhc cards being problematic, and I've not read a definitive reason as to why. I myself run an 8Gb Transcend Class 6 SDHC card and I'm problem free (touch wood). However I have a friend who bought their card from the same company as me (we basically bought them on the same order), and we've both tried the same builds and WinMo Roms and he gets SOD's and I don't. It's still a mystery as far as I know.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
SOD = Sleep Of Death. The screen will not wake up after going to the standard lock screen, or takes an inordinate amount of time to resurrect itself.

IOPS = Internal operations per second? That's a bit of a guess.

Sorry for double post :)

With the combination I use in my signature and the PPP wrapper fix in the development forum, I haven't lost data for over a day now since I applied the fix, I get no SOD's, no g sensor freezes even walking to/from work which I used to get, in fact the only thing I can honestly say is "wrong" with my Android is the lack of camera, but that's not the cooks fault.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
I got it.

I will hope that my memory card won't have any problems..

Is it only caused because of memory card problem though??

or.. depend on the combination?

what is the radio rom for?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] markc123:
I tired lots of ROMS, but the data drops make it totally unusable. I'm back on the iPhone atm, watching to see what will happen with HD2 Android and the launch of Windows Phone 7....

An old build of Mattc Nexus did work pretty much flawlessly - but lacked a lot of features (light sensor, fast gps, kepad lights etc..) that was the closest I got to a daily use build.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
Hm.. do you mean 3G data connection or including wifi??

I still don't know what G-sensor is. can anybody explain about it for me?:)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
I get dropped connections from both... have to switch to airplane mode and back. G- sensor is the sensor that can tell when you tilt the phone... its used for a lot of games. That has also been very problematic for me... will cause my phone to freeze for a bit if I don't turn it off.

You're going to have to do a lot of reading and research to get an understanding of everything and to get android running well. There will be a lot of problems and hurdles.

Like I said earlier, your running a hacked on version of android on a phone that wasn't meant to run it. It will probably never run android as easily or smoothly as a native android phone. But it can run winmo, android, and hopefully meego soon. And maybe wp7 down the road... it will probably never run anything other than winmo perfectly ( some will argue it can't even run winmo perfectly ), but it is versatile. But if you're just looking to run android, you should go with a native android phone... the next generation of those are being released soon, like the desire HD.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] domineus:
hate to say it but android for me is running far better than a stock epic 4g...I was shocked at the slow speed of it compared to the hd2 (in august when the hd2 was super buggy)

ppp data finally has been corrected on my end editing build.prop and replacing the ril wrapper. Stable data its not super fast but its t maybe what can I say
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nismo300zx:
Data drops have been fixed with the new ril_wrapper and changing dns servers in build prop...been testing 24hrs on froyostone 3.2 with hastarin 7.6 and not one drop after i did those changes....ppp has been fixed and speeds r good

2.15.50 radio

Chuckys lite rom i forgot which version

Moomoo mms fix froyostone 3.2 rom
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krypto16:
I have 5 different SD cards (none are non HC) ranging from class 2 - 6. I have done multiple experiments with them and actually found that the class 2 cards run Android the best. When I first got my HD2, it came without the preloaded SD card (guy I traded did not have it). I had an old 8 gig class 2 that I used in my cliq and my slide. Everything was working great with Android until I switched to my 16GB class 4. I only switched cuz I was testing out all kids of builds and wanted a bigger card. Turns out I started getting tons of SODs but I figured it was the builds I was testing and not the card. I dealt with the SODs for a while and then about a month ago switched back to my class 2 and I have only had a single SOD since.

Cuz I was curious, I also tested my 8 gig class 6 and had tons of SOD on that as well. IMHO the class matters most when it comes to SOD and it is best to go with a class 2. I know this kinda doesn't make sense cuz the higher the class, the higher the transfer rate....but this is what I have found with my testing. Humming along happily with my class 2 :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] johnnyvb78:
Does a winmo rom really make a difference in the speed for android?

I use now energy rom NLD. Is it better to use a lite rom and if yes does anybody know why?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
The only difference winmo rom's make is the way they initialize hardware or possibly by leftover data in the ram. Having a lite rom will not make any difference over a full rom. The only thing that may make differences is the base that the rom uses.

But no, a lite rom will not improve anything.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] johnnyvb78:
Then i will stay with my energy rom i have now, since it doesnt make a speed difference.

Any tips witch android works good? i have now FroyoStone Sense V3.2 that works good on hd2, only i would like to turn off sense.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] memin1857:
Tmobile version and international version have the same amount of ram. Both are 576mb. Htc intentionally crippled the international version to 448mb with SOFTWARE to make tmob ver. look better. Any new radio and new rom will make any international hd2 576mb too. (it physically has 576mb)

Tmobile ver. has double the rom to hold operator crap and it does not affect performance. So tmobile and international hd2s are the SAME performance. What is written about this in first post is not true.

Any hd2 will certainly run android at least as good as a native one, but about 1-2 more months are required. It may even run better since rooting modifying etc is easier.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
It is wishful thinking to say the hd2 will run android better than a native android phone of similar specs. Yes, the hd2 may run it better than an unrooted, unmodified android phone... but that's not a fair comparison, because you have to modify the hd2 to get it to run android. You can root and modify all the 1ghz android phones and you can flash different roms and builds to them, and they will run android better in most cases.

Everyone who owns a hd2 would like to say it runs better, and wanting it to run better may make it seem faster, and in certain cases it may run better.... but for the most part it does not run as well as a rooted and properly modified native android phone.

Don't get me wrong... it definitely runs good enough for me, and I still use winmo, so the fact I can run both definitely makes up for any lacking in the android part. I wouldn't give up my hd2 for any other phone. But if I wanted to use android exclusively, I would go for one of the newer native android phones.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
It's okay that hd2 can't run like true android phones.. It's just a part what I expected.

Yeah, HD2 is originally windows mobile phone so as long as htc makes a perfect official android OS for hd2, it won't work like other android phones..

But it has more flexibility than other phones as we can use 2 OS! haha

By the way, then what is the most stable combination??

No lag, No G-Sensor problem, No Date Drop..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] :
The exact opposite happened to me. I had a class 2 and was getting SOD left and right, picked up a class 6. No SOD.

I guess it just varies :/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
Unfortunately, almost everyone will give you a different answer. There is no "ultimate" catch all working build. Each one has it's pro's and cons.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] zarathustrax:
You're going to have to test them out yourself and see what works. With the hd2, it's going to take a lot of research and testing things out. That's why people say its for people who like to tinker. Different things work for different people. There's no completely stable combinations or answers that work for everybody. You're not going to be able to get the answers you need in just this thread. You're gonna just need to read up, try them out, and when you come to a problem, read some more and try more things out.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] scariola:
I also had this problem initially. You must have the backlight set to Auto in Windows Mobile. Settings/System/Power/Backlight. Then boot into android, shine a flashlight at the light sensor and watch!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TonyCubed:
The international HD2's have the same RAM size unless you were one of the people who bought the beta HD2 units which had like ~300mb of RAM.

ROM size doesn't make the phone "faster", neither does having more RAM unless you use a lot of applications, but that point has been debunked since all of the proper HD2 production models have the same RAM/

The international HD2's only had 448MB of RAM available, but an updated radio unlocked the rest of the memory! :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
What about rom size?

T mobile version has 1 gb but 512mb for international one .

I thought there is surely any difference between these but if there isn't,

I should have bought international one t.t
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Fif23:
Even when Android just started for the HD2 - It was still more stable than WM :)

You should compare your Android HD2 to your original WM HD2, not HD2 to other Android devices, that is irrelevant and silly but if you want to play - A lot testify that their HD2 with Android is much smoother than a Galaxy S....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
Haha, I like this , "Even when Android just started for the HD2 - It was still more stable than WM :) "

and.... it's much smoother than Galaxy S... hm I hope so.

My new fresh HD2 is on the way from US(I'm in New Zealand.)

What about Sense UI? Is it working fine on Android?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hicube:
I have to agree with that. Why not get G2 if you have t-mobile. Hspda+ comes in very handy.

________________________

Tmous stock rom v 3.14

Radio v 2.14

Kernel: hastarin r7.6
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] vplaza96:
I'm relatively new to the Android builds on the HD2. I've had my HD2 since release day and flashed to custom WinMo ROMs shortly after getting the phone. I've been partial to the Kumar ROMs since they were always stable and fast for me. I'm sure there are others just as good or perhaps better in various ways.

That said, I've only tried two Android builds and have settled on the phireMOD Skinny EVO build (check my signature). This combination of WinMo ROM, Android build, and Radio, has given me very good battery life and very few data drops. For reference, I had the prior version of this Android build and a newer Radio and battery drain was horrible and data drops were frequent.

Now, I can go a full day without dropping a signal and the battery lasts almost like WinMo.

I think that having the ability to run multiple OSes (hopefully, we get a way to run WP7 from the SD card as well) is a big thing if you're into tinkering. Personally, I still like WinMo. I can do file encryption on it so that my data is protected in case my phone or SD card is lost, which I don't have an easy way to do with Android yet (at least, I haven't found one that matches what I can do with WinMo). And contrary to others, I've had very few issues with WinMo after I flashed to Kumar's ROMs.

Bottom line, I love this phone.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] naughtyhon:
I had an HD2, and decided to get the Vibrant since I didn't know that the Roms for Android were out. I now have a fully functional HD2 with Android, and have also put aside my Vibrant to collect dust. All I have to say is I love my HD2!!! It does feel more solid than the Vibrant and the screen is just great. Flash works like a charm as well. I'm running Darkstone's v3.2, it it works absolutely great!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jorkobe23:
Yeah I watched one video that somebody run Darkstone's V3.2 on HD2 on the youtube. It was great. I think it's faster than my old galaxy s.

But a bit slow at times..

By the way, are any desire hd or z roms stable to use it apart from camera issue?