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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fastfed:
I dont get it.. Isn't everyone in my position?? This update just came out today right?

I know so many people that just have a rooted phone, no kitchens or roms or anything else.. Just a stock rooted phone..

So now this update comes out and I am forced to get some premade rom?

Is there a way I can just unroot my phone.. Get the update and reroot the same way I just did?

Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bizdady:
Your not forced to install it. If your stock you can update and re root or you can find the update zip and flash through recovery.

Sent from my Evo CM6
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fastfed:
I am such a newbie with Android, everything you just said is jibirish to me..

Here is what I am thinking, maybe it might help, lol

I am not forced to update, but don't I want to? Most updates fix things or improve things..

I am stock other then I rooted the phone 3 days ago.

What in the world is an update zip? and what is flashing through recovery?

I have no recovery programs installed on either the phone or the computer..

Im so lostl... :( LOL
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bizdady:
So you haven't installed? If you do install your just going to have to root again I believe. How did you root the first time?

Sent from my Evo CM6
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkdude36:
no, you are not even close to bricked, and yes, it can be fixed

wow guys cant you give a newb some help..... i'm here for you man. the froyo update was released two days after i rooted. i was pissed. but know, i am newb no longer, and i share my knowledge with you. ok, so baisically, you have two options:

option 1 is to unroot, do the update, and reroot the updated version. this is the long way that pretty much puts you back at square 1 and will delete all your data. i would not reccomend this.

option 2 is your first lesson in using root: FLASHING ROMS!!!hahahaha this will be fun..

so baisically, you need to make the phone think it is being manually updated using a built-in tool called recovery mode. the stock recovery mode (red !) has protection and signature verification that makes it so you can only update actuall htc stuff. the thing is, there is no protection stopping us from changing the recovery mode... now do you see where i am going? the little bit of recovery protection there was you removed by rooting. so first, download the rom of your choise from the dev section. most newer ones are 3.29.xxx.xx.xx. watever, so you are good. you can always just download the stock one from the dev section. make sure you back up everything with titanium backup. then, there are two ways to flash this rom:

easy: run unrevoked (www.unrevoked.com) to install a custom recvoery and remove factory system partition security (nand protection). then, boot into recovery by powering off phone and then holding power and volume down at the same time. finally, wipe data/cache/dalvic and then flash your rom.

hard: download the three attached files. install the android sdk and adb drivers. then, push flash_image to data/local/ and both amonra.img and mtd-eng.img to /sdcard/. then do..

adb shell

su

chmod 755 /data/local/flash_image

cd /data/local/

./flash_image misc /sdcard/mtd-eng.img

./flash_image recovery /sdcard/amonra.img

then, put rom of your choise on sdcard, and boot into recovery using either the way above or the command

adb reboot recovery

wipe all three things and flash rom.

if ANYTHING here is over your head. please pm me. don't just reply to my post because then i will not help you. i hope you do this successfully. seriously, ANYTHING, just beam me a pm.

dk
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] True01:
May be a stupid question, but is there anyway to extract the new version of sense from the HD Rom and add it to a EVO rom so we can have the new sense and all our other phone features working?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nate.spangler:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=797183
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spatt:
I think having just sense rosie, lock, music, etc is what he was talking about. A flashable zip to update your current Rom, not a camera broken port. I would love the same.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgalan14:
I believe is not possible since they haven't done it yet , but maybe we get an update with the new sense which imo it was supposed to be for froyo since all the features like backup all the apps is a froyo thing and we didn't get it in ours cause they wanted to show this.phone with 2.2 asap, and not another deal beaker like the hero

sent from my Evo running Myn's Rom
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] v_lestat:
no thats not what he was asking if you take what he said at face value. he was asking something that he could have had an answer for just by searching or manually looking at pages past page 1
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DirtyShroomz:
Im glad you know what people are meaning to ask ;)

I would hope, that everything said is taken at face value and people don't try to look for some hidden message
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] True01:
I know about the roms floating around out there, have flashed a couple, but they all have something broken, hence "having all our phone features working." A flashable zip would be the ticket, that way we could update whichever rom we prefer using...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
HTC weaves sense into android very deeply so it's easier said then done, but people are still working on it so it could happen. Even so if HTC sticks to their pattern and releases another towards the end of the month they may beat us to it. Either way it's not something you're likely to see in a flashable zip that can update ROMs, it's too drastic of a change.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mintishhippo:
Difficult :/

I have been working on such a thing for almost two weeks now. It started when I just wanted the new music ui. I tried porting that and then I found that after porting it wouldnt show up in the programs list so i needed to modify some files to get it in there. I got that far only to find that it would crash on opening. Further investigation showed that when you open the app it also loads the matching widget and DLNA stuff. I proceeded to port both of those also to find that the DLNA stuff requires a customized wifi stack. Still havnt fixed that but I also found that all of them rely on the HTC copyright apk which cannot coexist with the one already on the EVO that everything elce uses. Simply put, it would just be easier to port over everything than just parts. Sorry bud :(
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] True01:
Mint, thanks for the information and the effort!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jobryan26:
Ditto, similar thing happened with me trying to port the "People Widget". Just to much stuff is tied together. In the meantime I am working on an app for Comcast Voice.
[Touch Cruise 2 General] daend:
Hi!

I've found an HTC touch cruise 2 with a strange language (Dutch, or something)... is there a way to change the language?

Flashing a new rom? What's the better rom to flash?

Thank you!
[Touch Cruise 2 General] Heimerich:
definitely this one

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=572713
[Droid X Android Development] randroid123:
Now that w have full sbf will we be getting an overclock method soon? What do y'all think?
[Droid X Android Development] LexusBrian400:
Still need source code.
[Droid X Android Development] ericFuels999:
Is Moto usually quick to get the source code out? Coming from the Eris, HTC took ages to get their act together.
[Droid X Android Development] smitth6750:
I would'nt hold my breath
[Droid X Android Development] LexusBrian400:
It might not be coming out SOON, but rest assured, it IS coming. They have to by law.
[Droid X Android Development] ericFuels999:
But does the law have a deadline? ;) kidding.
[Vibrant General] Mark271:
I would specify what settings you use on JuiceDefender, because it really depends on what settings you use and such. You made this guide to help people, so don't leave them wondering.

I would include other ways to save battery life, even if they have been said over and over, just so no one misses anything.

Also, with Bionix you will probably want to only recommend the JI2 modem, because it is not universally accepted that JI6 helps battery life, in fact it is quite the contrary.
[Vibrant General] DaSmittyman:
I am running JI6 with bionix, and im running on 14 hours at 45%
[Vibrant General] Mark271:
Good job. Proud of you.
[Vibrant General] nearblack:
lul, I added the JI2 bit to the post. You are right, that modem has proven to perform more efficiently.
[Vibrant General] oka1:
Near black excellent

Near black excellent Written play by play well done !
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
I'm bone stock just running LP and I'm pretty sure I get better battery than that. My buddy with a Fascinate has been getting excellent battery life too. Not really sure how some of you guys are able to kill it so quickly

*shrugs*
[Vibrant General] kizer:
Its easy. They play with their phones constantly, they leave 3g on, Wifi on. They stream pandora all day.
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
Aside from steaming pandora all day I'm doing all that too. Wifi always on, gps navigation, watching youtube/nfl app videos, twitter/email throughout the day, forums, etc. The only way I can kill my phone anywhere near that fast is hours of constant video steaming over 3g

Edit: oh, and angry birds all day every day, haha
[Vibrant General] anthonys2r:
Agreed, I moderately use my phone the whole day and I am left with 25-30% after a 15 hour day. Its not necessary to have max brightness, 3g, bt, syncing, wifi, tons of widgets on all day.
[Vibrant General] Vegastouch:
My secret was just getting another battery sent to me. The one that came with teh phone jus wasnt all that great. New one lasts 4 to 5 hours longer doing the same things.

I leave bluetooth on all the time. Never turn it off. Only turn on GPS when needed. And at work where i dont usually get wifi, i leave 2G on most of the time unless i need it to be faster for something, but most times, 2G is fine for tweets and emails. Of course it all depends on how much im using it. I use it if i have to. If the battery is lower than usual when i get home, who cares? I charge it up over night every night anyways. I'm not anal that way.

Most ive got for a day is 18 hours. Had 17 or so many times and had a little over 16 hours today w/ 10% left but plugged it in anyways.
[Vibrant General] Alex530:
My secret Is to leave the music playing overnight. With headphones.
[Vibrant General] ms_green:
Lol. I have a HTC legend with stock rom and i just checked running time. I have one day and three and a half hours....at 55% battery :D
[Vibrant General] ericd07:
=D

thank you! I will try this out. =]
[Vibrant General] Wearespacepeople:
I wanna put Bionix on my phone so bad, but if I screw up and brick the phone, then no more Vibrant for me. :/ need a better job imo.
[Vibrant General] Mark271:
It's really hard to screw up. (assuming you have made it though an educational system successfully)
[Vibrant General] Wearespacepeople:
Hah, I think I'm taking this as a personal challenge. How about if I DO screw up you send me your Vibrant? Deal?
[Vibrant General] Mark271:
No, because this phone is unbrickable. You just need average reading comprehension and moderate computer literacy.

On a side note, the recommended autokiller setting is far too high. It kills anything after you exit out of it. (i.e. checking a text, it will kill the texting program after exiting) I lowered a few levels to see if I'll keep it.
[Vibrant General] nearblack:
added to the thread Mark. You are right, having it at such a high level will not only kill some running apps, but those apps will go onto restart, which kills battery. I think the "aggressive" setting is most suitable, or the lowest preset where your phone is still fast enough.
[Vibrant General] iunlock:
Interesting...great write up.

So would you say Bionix is the the best ROM for the Vibrant? There are so many ROMS's out there and I can imagine how it would confuse the heck out of those who are looking for the best ROM available to date for our phones.

What are your thoughts?
[Vibrant General] nearblack:
Yes Bionix is without a doubt the best Vbirant ROM out right now.

There are a couple of builds that tweak the Bionix ROM slightly to appeal to different users, but when it comes down to it, Bionix is unmatched.
[Vibrant General] stoober:
True dat, nearblack! Been running bionix 1.9.1 jacs oc/uv for 2 days now, and have noticed a substantial increase in battery life. Was out all day taking pix, texting, and emailing. Some web use and bt, wifi, 3g all on. In 12 hours still had 37% battery life left. I was blown away.
[Vibrant General] tonie972:
I can't find this feature anywhere... Any help would greatly appreciate it.
[Captivate General] shishir95:
Buy a case!

I was showing off how well my phone took Asphalt 5 and as I was unlocking the phone and about to slide to my second page of apps to show my friends a video I recorded, the super-slim Captivate slid out of my hands and onto the ground! I'm not a short guy at all so it fell about five feet onto bare concrete on its corner, bounced, and fell again on its side before landing face down.

So now I have beautiful cracks running through the glass on my Captivate. The touch sensing layer seems to be undamaged as is the display (and the rest of the phone? there were no scratches or dents anywhere except the screen..) which STILL managed to stay fingerprint and scratch free. Just too bad it didn't handle a drop too well.

I realize this is an extreme scenario but if you find your self fumbling with your phone because it's so thin (the last phone I had was a HTC Tilt2) you should really consider buying a case!

Thankfully I had insurance from AT&T and I got it from Costco so I have a 90-day exchange policy. I think i'll take the latter since it's free.

The moral of the story is that the Gorilla glass on the Captivate CAN be broken, so get a case if you're not confident about being able to keep the Captivate from hitting the ground!

Keep your phone safe!

EDIT: Pictures
[Captivate General] shinji257:
I got one of those body glovea from the at&t store the day I got it. Never regretted it.
[Captivate General] keeng james:
Invisible Shield for me. Adds no bulk, gives it grip, military grade with lifetime warranty. Im lovin it.
[Captivate General] nsaia:
Be careful. I understand that the body glove cases can cause superficial scratches to the exterior of the phone too.
[Captivate General] bts0uth:
Got a $3 black silicone case from Amazon. I love it.

Posted from my Captivate
[Captivate General] galaxyjeff:
Ebay has some that ship straight from Hong Kong that are molded perfectly for the phone and they throw in a screen protector also. I have a black silicon one but they sell all colors and it's a nice case. I may get one more for a spare but I think one will last pretty long. It even covers the side buttons but is molded to have them stand out from the case.
[Captivate General] rickzotz:
I second the recommendation for the Body Glove case. Bought mine online for $18. It's grippy, doesn't become sticky, keeps it shape, and allows me to easily remove it to change the battery when needed. After getting this case, I learned the Galaxy S face is made of Gorilla Glass. Upon seeing the wacky Korean video showing the level of abuse it can take, I pulled off the BodyGuardz film.
[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
That made me want to cry
[Captivate General] Demented71:
Bought one of these too, like the second day I had it. Also bought some screen protectors.

As far as the BG case causing scratches, There are some minor spots on the darker gray parts (like the one you slide to open the back) where it looks like the case has rubbed a bit onto it. Not that big of a deal for me. I'd rather have some minor scuffs on a part of the phone AI never see than some scratches/cracks on parts I always do.
[Captivate General] tbong777:
I don't normally use cases as I bought the phone partly because it is slim and slides into the pocket without a lumpy feel. I carry keys a penknife and coins in my pockets as well so I cannot worry about body scratches. My phones are not "pretty" after a year. LOL But this guy is slippery and i have already dropped it a couple times with no ill effect. So I have decided to skin only the battery cover for a better grip.

I do use good screen protectors though (and a small over over the camera lens) to prevent scratches there.
[Captivate General] liquid blue:
I tried the Invisible Shield and BSE on mine, AT&T's screen protector on my wife's. Comparing both side by side mine had a yellow tint and looked ugly when looking at the same things on both screens. Distored somewhat by the orange peel look. I kept the body skin and put the AT&T screen protector on mine along with the body glove. Body glove fits great. Plus I found my finger sliding easier for swipe with the screen protector and not BSE or IS. Messed me up plenty.
[Captivate General] JBLogic:
I got one of those cases thats like the material between hard plastic and the soft silicone. I think its called a TPU skin case. Its awesome stuff. Got an all black one off ebay for $7 total and people cant even tell i have a case on the phone.

I know its good for drops too cause my friend dropped his htc incredible onto the ground with one of these cases on, the phone bounced a few times ended up on the screen, basically same thing that happened as OP, and it did NOTHING to the phone. He had a cheap $1 ebay screen protector on too. His phone is perfectly fine not even a scratch.

Highly recommend these cases over hard cases and silicone.
[Captivate General] Mac11700:
Good thing you have the insurance policy..other wise it would have been a expensive lesson for you. I didn't like any of the cases AT&T had when we got ours..so at my youngest sons urgings we headed over to Best Buy to find him (and us) a case. He had the Seido case for his i-pod and that thing is as rugged as a Timex watch. His Ipod was in good shape..but that case looks like it went through hell and back.He got one for his new 1-4 phone and the wife and myself got the one for the Captivate..I love how it protects but without all the bulk. It's not as well protected as in an Otter Box defender I had on my Hero..but I plan on being much more careful with this phone..

Mac
[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
I had an AWFUL experience just the other day. I was walking to the kitchen with a glass of water and my phone in my hand and somehow I dropped the glass of water. I thought it was my phone so I went to fumble for it, just making a bigger mess and my phone got drenched. Bounced a couple times on the floor landed screen side up. I grabbed it so fast and stuck it in my shirt to dry, ripped the battery door off and dried it as fast as I could to make sure the litmus paper inside and battery didn't get wet. I'm definitely getting a good case now, and maybe I'll just vacuum seal my phone too for extra protection ;)
[Captivate General] avconsumer2:
That's SOOOO funny, because it sounds exactly like something I would do. :p
[Captivate General] avgjoegeek:
I was so used to putting my old phone in my flannel pocket.. with this phone if I do that it'll squirt out faster than a greased pig.

Def need to get a case for this thing.
[Captivate General] JOe K.:
I got a Zagg screen protector at bestbuy and they put it on using a squeegie. You can barely tell it's there

For a case (at least for the first few months) I got a slide on hard shell. It has a cell phone holster which I got rid of and then it's not that much more bulky. It seems much more sturdy with it. I did the same thing with my iPhone 3g. It didn't add a ton of extra bulk and in the case of my iPhone it made it last until I was ready for my upgrade (to this sweet machine).

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Platinu...121&skuId=1222771&st=captivate case&cp=1&lp=2

I recommend a hard shell
[Captivate General] pongothemagnificent:
Gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not crack resistant, there's big difference you know...
[Captivate General] iamjester:
Guess this phone doesn't take asphalt too well after all. In all seriousness though, I dropped mine face down from shoulder height (I'm over 6' ) onto a sidewalk about 2 weeks after I got it (don't drink and text), and with the body glove case and the at&t screen protectors it turned out none the worse for wear (the screen protector was trashed though, grit embedded in it). I haven't noticed any scratching of my phone from the case, either. Highly recommend it.

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[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
Run-on sentences ftw!

But I had the same thing happen on my iTouch. Dropped it in the street (with a case!) and the only damage was to the screen protector. Which I promptly took off and replaced when I got home.
[Captivate General] byteme2008:
I dropped my phone as I got out of my Explorer the other day, so it had about a three foot fall to the concrete. I have a body glove and screen protector on it - it landed with a sickening 'crack' face first. I was 100% sure that the screen had cracked, but it was still in one piece. I did notice though now that I have a single pixel out on the display. A little disappointing, but could have been a lot worse. This phone is definitely slick without a case and I can't imagine not having one on it.
[Captivate General] cliffgardner:
I put an invisbleSHEILD on it the 2nd or 3rd day but couldn't stand the fully body one and ended up just sticking with the screen protector. I have been using it without a case but just ordered the new leather/plastic OEM case from Samsung. I'll post how it performs, etc.

Otterbox has cases for the SGS devices now (if you want to turn your beautifully thin phone into a f***ing cinder block) ;)
[EVO 4G General] bubby323:
Would somebody want to trade their evo for a samsung epic 4g? Its only 4 weeks old and comes with all original cords, manuals, and box as well as a black snap on case for protection. I would also ask a little extra cash be provided in the trade seeing as i paid almost full price for the phone. If you want to trade pm me or post in this thread.

EDIT: selling outwith MP not permitted
[EVO 4G General] Wire P. Snyder:
I would be willing to trade.. but I also paid full price for mine... Would be willing to send box cables and manuals...

Specs:

Hardware version 0003

Epson panel

Latest Radio

PRL:60671

PRI:1.77_003

4G was never ****ed.. I.E Still Works and Functional.

Phone is in great Shape. Screen is perfect. And very light scratches around rim but over all well taking care of.
[EVO 4G General] bubby323:
I pm'ed you.
[EVO 4G General] bubby323:
Still looking for a trade. Its a great bargin for your value considering the epic is only 4 weeks old and in min condition. If your interested reply!
[EVO 4G General] optimaljam:
why do u want to trade your epic anyways???
[EVO 4G General] casual864:
Tired of the development scene? I went back to my Evo and it is awesome.
[EVO 4G General] optimaljam:
yea i know wat u mean. XD
[EVO 4G General] bubby323:
The extra money, and for sense seeing as i absolutely hate touchwiz and for 2.2.
[EVO 4G General] spaum:
I would be willing to trade, I actually thought of putting my phone on eBay. My phone is mint with a Zagg Invisishield on it to protect from scratches and I have the box and manuals.

My phone is fully NAND unlocked with CM6 running on it, I can return it to stock before we trade if you woudl like. PM me if interested.
[EVO 4G General] bubby323:
Have gotten 3 offers so far, haven't heard back from 2 people but im still looking for anybody interested.
[EVO 4G General] abanh:
I might be interested. Mine is in excellent condition with all boxes and manuals. Fully unlocked of course.
[EVO 4G General] bubby323:
I pm'ed you with specifics. Let me know. (:
[EVO 4G General] bubby323:
Still looking, also if you would like to buy the epic outright then i might go for that also.