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[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Listened to some 320kbs MP3 this morning. I've a pair of decent in-ear headphones. The music sounded just good. I've listened music through the iPhone and THD, and there's no difference as far as I can hear.

I've got some new photo's + vids(720) in daylight

http://www.finalcity.com/dhd/cam2_1.jpg

http://www.finalcity.com/dhd/cam2_2.jpg

http://www.finalcity.com/dhd/cam2_3.jpg

http://www.finalcity.com/dhd/cam2_4.jpg

http://www.finalcity.com/dhd/cam2_5.jpg

http://www.finalcity.com/dhd/vid2_1.3gp

http://www.finalcity.com/dhd/vid2_2.3gp

http://www.finalcity.com/dhd/vid2_3.3gp

Back in 4 hours (work)
[Desire HD General] turkification:
Groningen represent :D. Heb je hem ook gekocht in de Vodafone winkel in de Herestraat? Ik wel namelijk.
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
thanks for the pics Clock. I'm unsure if they are any good compared to other phones (never been interested in the camera tbh) as I'm used to shooting with an SLR.

They look fine scaled down but at 100% its not good.
[Desire HD General] sanju007:
Hallo

Can you tell us how the speaker of the phone are with music ?

And wath you found of dolby and SRS sound with speaker sound ?

I have now the galaxy S and the speaker are good it its same as the galaxy s ?

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Nederlands

Kan je ons mischien iets vertellen hoe de speaker is van de telefoon, dus met muziek ?

En wat vind je van de dolby en SRS klinkt het mooi/goed, is er een beetje bass uit de speaker ?

Ik heb nu een galaxy s en de speaker van de galaxy s is gewoon goed en kan hard

Verder hoe is het geluid met oortje van mij galaxy s is het gewoon super goed en kan echt heel hard, kan je mischien hierover iets zeggen, dus over de speaker en met oortjes ?
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Just in case my earlier post was missed (about 5 pages back in a few hours lol)... PLEASE can someone test if it's able to connect to 5ghz Wireless N??

Also, what are the VPN options?

Thanks
[Desire HD General] Trifidw:
It looks like they tried to force too many MP into the sensor with some weird shimmery effect at 100%. They won't be making me part from my SLR either.
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
Het lijkt erop dat de eerste 3 allemaal uit dezelfde winkel komen! Net nog een patatje gegeten bij de belg!

Looks like the first 3 devices are all from the same store in Groningen!
[Desire HD General] AndreasA88:
Thanks for all the info everyone. Whats the color of the device? Black or more brownish? Ive seen both in pictures. Thanks.
[Desire HD General] deadite66:
forum rules ppl.
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
yeah, for the masses it'll probably be fine, for an 8mp pic scaled down to go on facebook or something it works ok.
[Desire HD General] muselmann88:
camera pics from post 1 have a very bad quality...:(
[Desire HD General] AndreasA88:
Oh and hows the build quality? Since it has a alu case like the legend, is it any similar to it?
[Desire HD General] turkification:
Im listening to some music with headphones. And the quality is on par with my Ipod touch 2G.
[Desire HD General] turkification:
Its really good. Feels solid. Its heavy but not to heavy. I really like the unibody feel.
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
so is that good?

also how loud does the volume go with the headphones on? lastly does switching between dolby, srs, or none, make a noticeable difference again with the headphones on?
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
turkification,

does yours have the gap that was mentioned earlier?
[Desire HD General] turkification:
What gap? I must have missed it..
[Desire HD General] turkification:
The volume is loud enough. And yes it makes a difference. I like the equalizer. Dolby has low sound, at least it sounds like that. Plus I like bass.
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
sounds good! thanks!
[Desire HD General] koba:
whats the sound from the speakers now? pls test this thx!
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
When you open the lower back cover to insert the sim...

apparently it doesn't close well enough... someone said that theirs has a small gap about 1 mm between the lower back cover and the back after closing it.
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Does it connect to 5ghz Wireless N? Surely someone can test this

Thanks
[Desire HD General] turkification:
I don't have the gap.

I found out that SRS gives the best sound. Dolby is a bit weak, and the htc equalizer is good.

I can't test the speakers because I'm in a train, sorry.
[Desire HD General] koba:
train is good for this test so we know that the sound is good for outside radio :-)
[Desire HD General] AndreasA88:
Any reports on battery life would be appreciated btw.
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
could u load up the fm radio and check how good the signal is?
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Ok, the first in the uk???

My mate has just come back off a trip..he has the phone..its in my hands.

I kept it quiet because I thought he was joking..

About time....the screen...no way its a normal lcd its too bright, it must be s-lcd,

Very happy..
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Ive put it next to his sony xperia x10...massive difference..

It just cant be a normal lcd, for the past 2 weeks ive been going on and on....its far to bright to be a normal lcd....trust me....you will see when you get yours.

I't doesn't match my galaxy s I used to have in the way of blacks but its good...Im a lover of screens ...Im really fed up now that I had all this trouble thinking it wasn't

Now I will shut up...
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
that's good to hear :)

edit: not the part about you shutting up, but that the screen is great lol
[Desire HD General] AndreasA88:
Dont shut up. :P Hows the viewing angles? Dont you have a phone with SLCD nearby? A Desire for example. Sounds good though. What do you think of the build quality?
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Yes I had a desire and sold it for a galaxy s, cut a long story short I hated ...well not hated but sooo many problems with it so I sold that too... now im looking for a new phone..

OK the viewing angles are no where near that of the super amoled...BUT ...in the real world I always look at the screen face on so its not really a problem...tilt the phone and its not very easy to see...ahh but it seems better than a normal lcd Sony x10 Im doing this as i type...anyway..not like the SGS was,,,Build quality...great...some people have said that the battery cover had a 1mm gap...coming from the SGS thats funny....build quality is great, battery cover fits fine...although its a bugger to get the cover back on....kind of....if I push it on any harder its going to brake....it wont but thats what it feels like.

The ???? 1MM gap must be few and far between, my mates is a good fit and doesn't stick out
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
What does stick out more than the pictures seem to tell is the camera lens...ok not the lens itself but the housing is going to get scratched up on a table ect...

I must go back to the screen. im sitting here in darkness with my mate !!!no no not like that,,,ive already had my wife say ...errr whats going on !! (past posts you will know i got slapped for having so much involvement with this phone)

So even in the dark it is brighter than normal lcd...if its not s-lcd then something has happened....Ill leave it up to you when you get yours.

Anything you want to know then I will try and help...
[Desire HD General] AndreasA88:
Thanks. :) What color is the device? Ive heard theres black and brown but ive only seen brown. Other than that its just the battery time im wondering about, but i know you cant answer that yet.
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
PLEEEEASE test to see if the Wireless N only works on 2.4ghz band (like IP4). This will be a major drawback and cause a real problem with my home network.

I hope to God it works on 5ghz band where Wireless N belongs
[Desire HD General] dai_griff:
Yeah I have a question (sorry if I missed it in the thread) where did he get the phone from?

I am getting mine from gummobile.com
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
I'm in a bit of a pickle......

A while back I placed an order on mobiles.co.uk for the Desire HD (500mb, 600mins, unlimited txt @ £32.50pm / 24mth).

After not hearing back from mobiles.co.uk for a while and finally seeing the Desire HD pre-order on Vodafone Online Shop I placed an order (750mb, 900mins, unlimited txt @ £35pm / 24mth).

Now here's the dilemna, I got accepted for both but:

- I just recieved an email from mobiles.co.uk saying the device has been moved to warehouse and will be delivered next working day

- Vodafone have confirmed delivery will not be until 22nd October

.....so do I cancel the mobiles.co.uk order (within 7 days unopened) and wait another week or so, or do I just take the first delivery of the handset and cancel the vodafone?

(or is there anyway I can change the account / payment details to someone else and give the mobiles.co.uk handset to someone ?)

Edit: Christ I just noticed it's been a while since I posted on XDA-Devs, my signature is well outta date - megalolz
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
I always like to tell the truth but my friend is what id call super loaded with money...cars...houses...ect...so I don't know...he left me with the phone and flicked his hand and told me to look after it till tomorrow...so I cant answer your question..
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
This is brown but that sounds crap right??? It look great !! Its a very nice looking phone !
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
Me too ^^

Anyone else bought from them before? How's their service?

It's my first time buying from them and I'm from Malta not the UK
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
I wouldn't even know where to start...haha it connects to my wi fi and its super fast....thats all I can say ...sorry
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
more piccys please rixsta! hoping you have a nice camera around there to treat us to some low noise pics.

btw, glad you are happy with the screen. The wife stopped hitting you yet?
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
Thanks, that is great news :)
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
I have wireless N ....god do I sound dumb...its very fast over my wi fi ... i cant say more sorry...ill ask my friend tomorrow
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
Cant someone only test this if their router does 5ghz? most don't so its not surprising that the 4 DHDs we have available cant test it yet.
[Desire HD General] dai_griff:
gummobile.com have been really good with me so far, they swear blind they are sending the phone on the 19th, swapped orders from the desire z and changed delivery address as im away next week.

So far gummobile are tops
[Desire HD General] sanju007:
How are the speaker can you tell us that ?

It is better than iphone 4 ?

It is better than de samsung galaxy S

Can you tell us about the speaker, how is it loud and how is the Quality of the speaker, have it a a little bit bass the speaker,.. can tell me someone ?

And how are the speaker with DOLBY and SRS ?
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
haha...now thats funny on so many different levels...

My wife loves this phone...she said its a shame that my di*k doesnt feel as as nice or doesnt have the weight of the phone hahaha....she loves the phone right !!!

Ok i must admit when you put this phone in your hand its just right...it feels great...its not THAT heavy...look put the SGS in one hand...that palstic .OMG its going to snap if i squeeze it..and then put the hd in the hand,,,fantastic...I may be spelling stuff wrong now but im getting tired....I will load some pictures tomorrow and some videos in real time uk !!! haha... I promise..
[Desire HD General] SyndicateXDA:
Oh, the good old Noorderplantsoen, good for you to be there :)

And a question: are the maps pre-cached in the Locations app or do you need to download them at the first use?
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
External speaker no where near the iphone... 50% but better than the desire..

Galaxy s kills the phones external speaker.

Bass better than the desire but could be better..

The max volume is not loud enough for me....I wouldn't miss a call but im a little gutted about it...to tell you the truth I would have liked it louder..
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
I thought most routers were 5ghz now. I have the Linksys WRT610N (aka E3000) cos I have a 100mbps internet connection (Gotta love living in Holland! :-))

The 2.4ghz band is slower and full of other devices. Especially if you live in an appartment. Some areas are so chocka full that wireless signals are all bouncing into each other. Hence all the new routers run on 5ghz which is nice and clean.

The iPad aparently does 5ghz (though I wouldn't buy one even with a gun to my head) but the iPhone doesnt...

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1002703

The DHD needs to have 5ghz possible to really wow me :-D

Aparently the Samsung Galaxy Tab also has 5ghz...

http://www.techmagnews.com/samsung-...frequencies-5ghz-dual-band-wifi-included.html
[Desire HD General] sanju007:
Thanks for you answer uhm the speaker is not good for music then ?

And how is the sound with the headphone ?

It that better then the iphone ?

And have it bass with the headphone and how is the max volume with the headphone with music ?

Very bad from HTC that the speaker is not good for mucis
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
The headphones that come in box are crap...I had a set of nokia 5800 earphones that I just plugged in ...the sound compared to the desire is miles apart....great....nice sound and a lot better..im happy with the sound...external speaker mmm not very good but through headphones pretty good...with a expensive set I reckon the sound would rock !!
[Desire HD General] jkoekemr:
Well, if you're after good quality pics from a mega-megabit camera, then you also need some optics, and unfortunately there you can't beat the laws of physics...
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Not a real time test but my mate says he charged the battery this morning and all the messing about with it we have done its still around 50%..

Dont take this as the battery is good....its to early to tell...the biggest thing is the SGS has a 1500mah....but maybe the small battery of the HD will match it....time will tell...so far so good....its not always the bigger mah is better...software/hardware has to come into it...time will tell..but so far good
[Desire HD General] SyndicateXDA:
Could you explain what problems did you have with SGS, please? I'm thinking about buying one due to a lot lower price compared to DHD.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
The galaxy s now is at a great price I wont lie..

To me the galaxy s still has better images, better video and better audio...really the video quality is amazing... the hd cant beat it.

The reason I sold it was because the random black screens, the terrible lag...even with ryan lag fix it still lagged.....the drop in signal when in a call...3g up and down......the worst RFS filesystem ever...id had enough..

If you want the truth,, desire hd vs galaxy s id still edge the SGS... IF

Samsung hadn't messed this phone up...oh + a terrible UI touchwiz 3 >????? rubbish...not to mention the samsung support..

Combine these and the desire hd is so much better....maybe not on paper but in real life yes...ive had both in my hands and the desire hd is the best of the best..

EDIT....i haven't been told if 2.2 froyo has fixed most of these issues ?....this is how i found the phone to act with 2.1 !
[Desire HD General] dai_griff:
I now happy that another Galaxy S ex-owner thinks exactly like me. In fact after selling my moby I do not have another phone till my HD arrives.

It's a laggy, crappy plastic bit of old Samsung tat........ Never again will I bother with em for mobiles.

Dai
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Dont forget my EDIT..

EDIT....i haven't been told if 2.2 froyo has fixed most of these issues ?....this is how i found the phone to act with 2.1 !

I dont want SGS fans coming to get me,,,,,ahhh I hate saying bad things about this phone,,,,in so many ways it rocks....shame on you Samsung for messing this phone up.

Another EDIT.. yes HTC build quality is far better than SGS ...then again its the best in its field..
[Desire HD General] asorsa:
omg

youtube.com/watch?v=BJWOznNUfow

can this be? looks awesome if it is true...
[Desire HD General] oliboli:
looks great can't wait to get it.....

http://www.youtube.com/v/t_3kLDD

:D
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
yep these are true ...seen them with my own scores,, :)
[Desire HD General] bratfink:
The link doesnt work....
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
wow 58.2!! I had to look up what was a good score...

1.Acer Liquid: 34.0 FPS

2.HTC/Google Nexus One: 27.6 FPS

3.HTC Hero: 26.8 FPS

4.T-Mobile G1: 24.9 FPS

5.Samsing Galaxy: 23.4

6.HTC Magic: 23.0

7.Motorola Milestone/Droid: 20.7
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
well im off to bed seeing as nobody needs me ....enjoy
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Ran them both again after a fresh reboot:

-Quadrant => 1832

-Neocore => 52,0

Battery life is not bad as far as I can see now. Played whole day with the device, including internet/apps/texting/video/photo, and the battery is still 50%.
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
I have a question before you go rixsta, what is the device like with regards to screen and build quality. I mean would there be a real need to go out and get a wrapsol body protection or similair?
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Noeeess dont go rixsta! Does the camera annoys you when u get it in the front pocket of your jeans? I really hated the 6630 for the bump the camera had :|
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
One question from me.

Does it bother you that 3,5 mm headset input is at the bottom, I mean for daily usage? After using it always at the top It would be tough to get used to it, wouldn't?
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
When i had my Blackberry Storm the input was at the right side and it was annoying since i had to use always the same position, when i think of the Desire HD it seems a better plan to stick it in the bottom, you just plug and place it on the pocket with the top down, the thing im scared the most is the feeling/pressure of that camera bump -_-

Btw dont know if you have seen this but CNET Asia released a video recorded with the Desire HD and it looks good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBHVr3SKOwc&hd=1

CNET FULL REVIEW, they really beat the Desire HD :| http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/0,39051200,45305089p,00.htm

EDIT2::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSbvOuH0D0c&hd=1 Another video posted a day ago of the Desire HD stop the video at 20sec you will see the view angle, i cant believe this is just LCD...

It has no SRS logo ? 0_o

PS: yeay i can place links xD
[Desire HD General] mentalinc:
The planet 3D test looks FPS locked at 59FPS, it stayed static at 59FPS the whole time check 1:45 on.
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Question: What services/features/apps are NOT FREE???

For example, to use turn-by-turn maps outside your home country requires that you buy a licence. This is bad for me as I live between the UK and Netherlands (no, NOT the North Sea! lol).

What else do you have to pay for? I hate hidden charges & costs
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
+1

YEEEES i live in Bahrain, and going to get the UK version!! how can i get my country's map?? do i have to pay?? or it is free???
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Thats a question for our DHD owners to answer :/
[Desire HD General] mupet0000:
The audio from vid.3gp is good but the res is not 720p. Why then on the 720p does the audio quality lower?
[Desire HD General] Semi666:
x

Hi guys I dont know if I am completly drunk or what but I couldnt find that image where you can see gap between battery cover and sim cover.. Can someone repost link so I would be able to check it right away in vodafone shop if dhd is ok or not ? Thanks a lot
[Desire HD General] jords12:
http://shadowservices.biz/pics/10.jpg

- Actually theres some other pics with larger gaps... I'll find them
[Desire HD General] nicholasbgr:
oh my, I need this phone :(
[Desire HD General] 1902:
same here... lol :D
[Desire HD General] craigspc:
General question that just came to mind after checking out Clocks' latest pics and videos...

The DHD is among the better Android examples I've seen so far, but like all the other Android based phones I've seen, I think the video quality would benefit greatly from optional support for increased bitrates on faster MicroSD cards. Does anyone know if the OS is the limiting factor here?

Phone's are obviously limited optically (ie. the lens), and cramming a small image sensor inside a compact body is not ideal either. But most of the daylight video issues I see on the new phones have nothing to do with soft images or noise - they suffer from compression artifacts and symptoms of poor encoding (IMHO).

I'm beginning to suspect that there's an underlying limitation within Android. Can anyone cast some light on this subject? I'd be really interested.
[Desire HD General] 1902:
according to htc middle east representative, the arabic support will come after one month (mid november) and the phone will be released in Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait mid october ( can you confirm ? if yes, please send me any store name or a contact number so i can ask a friend to buy it and send it to me in dubai ).
[Desire HD General] wineds:
I am running the desire hd rom on my hd2 now and I just checked locations. If you press upgrade and try to buy navigation for australia the charge is 8.99 aud for 30 days! !

Edit: I just checked bahrain and it is 17.99 per month!
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
Ahh maybe it is more prevelant in Holland. In the UK the fastest home internet speed is "only" 50mb and even then only a small portion of the population can get it. Wireless N is now finally being the main band used for routers that come with new connections but still at 2.4ghz as standard.

I was looking at the WAG320N-UK router from Linksys but in the end since I had no 5ghz devices there didn't seem much point.

Rixsta its 07:47 London time. wakey wakey!!
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
hi, the phone use android 2.2, he is support arabic form factor even now, you can

find some pic of an arabic website and keyboard in other thread here.
[Desire HD General] zomfgwtfbbq:
What the hell? That's expensive.
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
So that's £12/month. Yeowch :( I was thinking I could stomach £4/month - but 3x that? Nope.

Anyhow, about the 5GHz, I have a WRT610N so when I get my DHD I can let you all know if it supports 5GHz (most of my home LAN is 5GHz now, except for the Wii and phones).

Question will probably be answered before then though :(
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Ok so one last time for people that missed it..

I would say looking at the screen that it must be a S-LCD, no LCD I have ever seen has been this bright and sharp, the viewing angles that people have been complaining about is just not true, it has great viewing angles that you just wouldn't get on a normal LCD.

Its either a S-LCD or a new improved LCD, having had a galaxy s I like this screen, the colours look more real although the blacks, although pretty good cant match the SGS, all in all I am very pleased with the screen.

Everybody should relax about this subject now....really the screen is fab !!
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
This is what Im talking about, having had one in my hands the screen is really good !
[Desire HD General] dhanjel:
Thanks rixta.

Personally, I couldn't care less if its an lcd, slcd or amloed. The important thing is that the screen is great, which its sounds to be according to you! :)
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
No probs..

Yes the screen is nice and bright and very clear and sharp, just wanted to tell people because there has been so much speculation over it..

Now its just a case of buying one for myself...hopefully soon !
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
yes the Android 2.2 (Froyo) has Arabic fonts, but the Arabic language need to be written in a connected way so that it make sense, the pictures has been taken by Clock shows the letters separated which is not understandable, NOW for Arab speakers you can wait for the Middle East Version which support Arabic 100% even the UI or you can root cook etc.. to force to support arabic.

And for the Lebanese guy who said that it'll be released in Bahrain (:D My country) can you please tell me what is you source so i can track the date exactly.