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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] maestroteague:
Thanks for the comparison. I'll throw my 2 cents in on the Sylvania. After Tipster's initial review that was very glowing, I looked it up, and there was only one in my whole metro area, and it was 10 minutes from my house, so I ordered it online for in-store pickup. Got it home late last night, played with it a bit while charging. Battery didn't seem to gain charge. Left it plugged in last night - woke to the screen on, and it said battery was still only 30%- had not gone into sleep mode. Left it charging all day while at work. Came home, still wouldn't operate from battery power. Thought maybe I hadn't plugged in well, shut down and charged about an hour. Booted up - 100% battery. Unplugged, and unit shut down. Plugged back in, and battery at 30%.

So I haven't tested USB or anything else, because if the battery won't work, I'm certainly not keeping it. Now I have enjoyed piddling with it while plugged in. The rubber back is nice. Warmth around ports, but not so much that I wouldn't use it. Non-rotating screen a bit of a pain. Buttons on back are inconvenient, have to turn it over each time to see them. I do like the place for the stylus. It took every apk that I installed this afternoon. It's fairly zippy with the faster processor. I'm planning to take it back, for the battery issue if nothing else. But I was hoping to keep it long enough for the Maylong to get here so I could do some side-by-side comparison.

For those concerned about returning, I also read the return policy last night, but I thought that I read that the restocking fee was just if everything wasn't still in the box and in reasonable condition. I wouldn't swear to it, but I'm pretty sure. And the pictures on the side of my box DO have a camera on the unit.

My Maylong is still in limbo 15 days post-order. I ordered on the 28th, and it still says "billing information received." For those of you looking for other options, especially if you're considering an 8 or 10 inch pad (I'm thinking of moving toward a 10 inch) then you may want to check out buyadroid dot blogspot dot com - I've never bought from him but he seems to be well-respected as fair by folks on some other boards. I'm looking at his 10-inch HyPE-Pad that has the same chip family as the sylvania (but the top of the line 220 instead of the 200 like the sylvania), 2 microSD slots, 2 full-size USB ports, and lots of other stuff -- I think it's around $210 delivered by Fed-Ex. Might be worth a look.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirtyriffs:
7days after my Maylong was ordered, I canceled it. After hearing people still haven't got theirs, im glad I did. I ordered a 10" tab. Ive had it for a week now and I'm really liking it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
Ha! From what I read about the IPAD factory that wouldn't happen. However at the Maylong factory that wouldn't surprise me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
Maylong versus Sylvania

From what I have read of late, it almost sounds as if the Maylong at $99 might be a better value than the Sylvania at $150--at least at this moment.

However, part of me thinks that the Sylvania is going to get improve with future software updates. However I am not sure I want to wait to see if that happens. Also, I am starting to think the G-sensor might be an important feature for me, which I assume will never be available on the Sylvania.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] anjenaire:
Update: Winner Sylvannia vs Maylong

Dealbreaker:

Video: Well I am trying to play some tv shows recorded in avi. I had to download several different players (Rockplayer, doubleTwist) on the Maylong to even play the files. Now I may not have the right player but it stutters, the audio isn't in sync and generally wouldn't play smoothly. I just think it doesn't have enough horsepower to play the video smoothly. I will try and convert or play a mp4 to verify but as of now, it is a show stopper.

The Sylvannia unit however played the files on the native MPlayer without hesitation. (Same file, same SD card).

Big Edge: Sylvannia

Maylong heading back to store unless I can find appropriate player (will have to load apk from SD card since nothing on the Maylong App Market that will play avi .... I am not going to convert every file just to play on this unit. I want to have a show and hit the treadmill or car ride with it).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] maestroteague:
What 10" did you get and where? I may well keep the Maylong, but think that ultimately (maybe not until after the first of the year, but who knows) I'll end up with a 10". Since you're happy, what model is it?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] HappyEisentrout:
Well mine came in last night, I had ordered on 10/27, the delay is unacceptable.

When I grabbed the box something felt loose in there. When I opened the box the device only had a protective film on the back and the screen had little knicks and scratches all over it, like it had been a returned or used tablet. It powered right up, I was able to connect to my wi-fi network just fine. Scrolling was rather difficult and a lot of times when I was trying to scroll down, it ended up scrolling up. Since I had closed at work, I didn't have much time with it and ended up going to bed. When I woke up this morning, I turned on the device and discovered that even though I had left it plugged in all night, it only had a 70% charge. A "full" charge lasted only 45 minutes before I had to plug it back in again.

I already returned the device, the screen scratches and poor battery was the deal breaker for me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
Maylong M-150

FYI,

There is a new review for the Maylong M-150 at the site the-digital-reader dot com.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chnky18:
finally got me device after waiting nearly 3 weeks...so far initial reaction is this thing sucks...tried to download apps from market and it wont let me register keeps telling me registration failed. anybody else having issue like this. also seems like every time the screen turns off when turning back on it loses wifi signal and i have to go in and manually reconnect
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
PocketBook IQ 701

Just a quick follow-up on the soon-to-be-released PocketBook IQ 701 pseudo tablet. While there are some contradictory specs out there, I read in the comment section of the-ebook-reader dot com blog, that:

"The IQ is going to be unlocked so it should have the ability to install a lot Android apps compatible with Android 2.0. And once it gets updated to 2.2 it should even get support for Flash. Not sure on what video formats are supported. I’ll know more Tuesday."

The editor is going to be doing a review on it next week.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FredOak3:
OK couple things on the Maylong....

First I thought I had scratches on my screen too then I noticed it had a second protective film on it, so I took it off too.

I was able to side load everything I've thrown at it so far, except for the market.

What I did was backed up the apps off my Samsung Captivate, transfered them to my PC then the SD card, put the SD in the Maylong and just kicked off each of the apk's.

With that second film off, screen response seems better. I just retyped part of a financial data from my Captivate with out any issue.

There is no question this thing is made on the cheap, but I have to say so far I can live with it as a tinkering device.

Also I found I have to line up my SD card just right, as long as I do that I can pop it in and out normally.

I'm anxious now to see if I have the same luck with the Sylvania.

chnky...I had no problem downloading apps and my Wifi takes just a second to re-establish and does it on it's own (so far!!)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teardropcity:
seems like some divided reviews on the Maylong. some like it, some hate it.

Guess I will keep waiting for it to arrive and then make my decision, but I am leaning more towards the Huawei S7.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
I would buy the Huawei S7 in a second if had a version with fewer features at a price point of $199. I guess the only concern is the battery life, but if it is around 4 hours that is acceptable to me. I think they give you a second battery so it would probably be alright.

P.S. I think one more post after this one and I will have linking privileges. Sucks not being able to post links.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cbogiages:
Has anyone been successful in rooting the Maylong 150?

In the beginning of this thread it seemed that some had success. I was just wondering if anyone is still trying? My Way-to-long is supposedly on its way. thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] del4:
Mirrors the comments I was going to make. Didn't cost me anything to pay with the device for a few days and I now know to wait for a tablet with a capacitive screen; resistive just won't do. The 7" tablet form-factor is great though, despite what Steve Jobs might think! Can't wait to see what will be available next spring...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
Maylong M-150

http://www.maylonggroup.com/M-150_MID.htm
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teardropcity:
Played with huawei at best buy. They didn't have an open wifi network so.couldn't try it fullly but is viy is pretty reasponsive as far as screen and all. But they have it sitting right next to the galaxy tab which just makes it pale in comparison.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
Well there is a new rumor out today that Motorola is about to release a tablet this month with the new Google OS called gingerbread, designed especially for tablets.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] maylongm150:
Got mine 2 days ago.

Got a video up youtube.com/watch?v=5DotTf3NpBA

In short - this thing sucks.

Stylus is almost 100% necessary for it to be semi-decent as a browser, however it's still pretty slow. I'm 5 feet next to my router and it takes a good amount for pages to load. If you try to scroll/browse before it fully loads, it jumps around - a lot.

So far battery life is about 1.5 hours - pretty terrible. Has terrible viewing angles and the unit heats up pretty fast. The only positive thing about this unit is that it is actually a pretty goddamn good Youtube machine. Videos load almost instantly and it plays well, without and skipping.

But 99$ this is way too much. It's going back to Walgreens ASAP. I know they will start to issue store credit instead of a full refund soon, due to 90% of the buyers returning the units.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FredOak3:
Having owned and programmed Palm for eons, using the stylus is no biggie for me and I found using my old Palm Tungsten E stylus the thing actually responds as good as any Palm I had.

That being said it has it's huge limitations.

Battery life is one (after a couple days of testing 2 hours seems to be the max).

Lack of Market is a pain, but I've been able to side load anything, but not all apps work.

Internet is OK.

WiFi, I've pretty much had the range of my house with out too much difficulty.

Slacker and Pandora don't work, which really disappoints me.

Ereading is acceptable, nothing fancy but it works.

So if I get the Sylvania and it isn't defective and I can get it to do a couple things the Maylong can't, the Maylong goes back. If the Sylvania doesn't I'll probably keep the Maylong for E-Books and internet.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jammallnyte:
Mmmmm gingerbread.

I went to look at the galaxy and a very nice device I must say. My wife pointed out that it or any tablet will do everything that my vibrant does only its a bigger screen oh nd my vibrant will make phone calls. Great point. No sure of the application of a tablet device ATM.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chnky18:
well after having played with it for a few more hours it isnt the worst thing in the world. Im uploading about a 5 min video of it running thru a few apps on youtube at the moment and will post as soon as its uploaded.

I will agree with bgr that a 7 inch tablet is not the right size. while i dont like apple they got it right with 10 inches. I pulled some apks off my evo and put on the maylong. some wouldnt install but most did. Last.fm is completely useless it wont play a song at all nor will slacker while grooveshark will play songs without a hitch. So thats kinda weird to me.

Facebook works fine as well as wordfeud which I use a lot.

I have notiched the glitch with the battery as well where it never seems to go above 70% even after full charge and the battery life is painfully short. I think I have spent more time playing with it plugged in than unplugged.

Email on it doesnt really work like it should. I have it set to check every five minutes and keep sending myself emails and it never gets them unless i open the application and then it loads all the emails since the last time i used the email client.

I will say that if u use a stylus then there isnt much issue with screen response. But using your finger or nail is far less responsive. The product itself is not very well put together as the black borders is starting to come up already from the edges in less than 24 hours.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teardropcity:
Looks like they got rid of the "Internet Explorer" icon for the browser!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jammallnyte:
BTW when I returned my sylvania yesterday there was no problem. He did say he had heard they were coming back and it wasn't a suprise I was returning it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chnky18:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoXylG8Mb-0

a video messing around with the maylong

u cant tell in the video but the speed test i ran was getting 5mb down, less than 1 up
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
Come on Jammall. A Tablet is sized for entertainment. The smartphone is sized more for utility.

That said, if you enjoy watching Television on an old 13" RCA cathode ray tube, there may be no reason to upgrade to a 32" HDTV.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirtyriffs:
Its a Zenithink ZT-180. I got it for $215 delivered. Its not the greatests tab out there, but it comes w/ Android 2.1. Its rootable and they keep updating the firmware. So maybe 2.2 isn't far behind.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FredOak3:
OK now I'm PO'd...I was using the Maylong for a couple hours plugged in. Took it off the charger and it immediately died, now I'm wondering if it charges while you're using it and it's plugged in.

That would be a deal breaker.

I'm liking the tablet idea, over my phone and for down and dirty over my netbook.

But unless I get a decent Sylvania, it looks they all go back and I start shopping from scratch.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
I am getting both the Maylong and Sylvania delivered this week and they are both going back unopened.

Actually I may see how they feel in my hand in terms of weight and balance. Whatever I get, I want something that is going to be comfortable holding it in one hand while I read stuff on it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
Weight

Oh, if anyone has one of those small digital scales for weighing packages, can you weigh the Maylong and/or Sylvannia tablets and report back here?

I see the new Samsung tablet is 380 grams as verified by Mytabletlife blog which is just under .8 pounds. I think that is the lightest I have seen for 7 inch tablets.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chnky18:
after several hours of playing with maylong today i just took it back and went over to best buy to look at the galaxy tab. Unfortunately it was stuck at an activation screen and the bb employees were useless to do anything to get past that screen for me. they also had the huawei s7 tablet but of course not plugged into charger so couldnt turn it on and they didnt know where the charger was.

i hopped over to check out my first hands on of the ipad and i have to say i like the screen size far more compared to the 7 inch screen of the maylong. I hope when i get a chance to play with the galaxy tab that it dazzles me like the ipad did.

by the way anybody know what bbym01eg is? it was a code at best buy for something next to the galaxy tab, priced at 499 that said coming soon...is this a wifi only version maybe? it wasnt a sprint version or verizon as they had signs for those already
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
Given that the BBYM02EG is the 3G version of the Galaxy Tab, I would agree that is probably the Wifi version.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FredOak3:
Well the Maylong died. It would work only on the charger and even though battery status was at 100% the minute I pulled the plug it would die, So I plugged it in did a Factory Reset and back to Wallgreens it went, no problem with the return.

Now we'll see what the Sylvania is like. I can't believe how crappy this thing was obviously built. I know it was dirt cheap, but come on, useless after 2 days!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chnky18:
less than 24 hours of use for me and the black border around the screen was already peeling off

really was a pos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Ishman:
are you sure that the peeling was not just the extra screen protector most folks don't notice
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] danobegood:
I too will take the maylong back to Walgreens. I've had it for 29 days and it is no more than a gadget. Will likely not prove as a good basis for educational development, at least on something which I'd find performance I'm looking for.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] s2h2golf:
I went ahead and tried the Ideos 7. What a great piece of hardware, with one limitation - the resistive touch screen. If this had a capacitative touch screen, this would easily compete with the Galaxy Tab. Here are the pros to it:

-This thing has some heft to it and feels solid - much better than the Sylvania.

-Full access to the Market (for the most part, some apps did not show up).

-Fast. It seemed to perform well. I should have run some benchmarks on it (linpack, quadrant, etc.). I would guess that it would have scored in the 600-700 range on quadrant.

-Built in stand.

-Removable battery.

-3G access with a SIM card slot. Supposedly can make phone calls too (had a dialer settings option).

-Dual cameras, although with Fring, I could only get one to work (the rear camera). I probably could have played around with it more to get the other one to work. Yahoo Messenger did not work for video chat (option was greyed out). I could not find Tango, but I would venture to say that if I had my SIM card in, I could have found it.

The resistive touch screen killed it all though. I still had to use the stylus to navigate through some of the menus. I will note this, however - because I thought I was probably going to take it back, I never fully removed the screen protector.

So why is it going back (other than the screen)? As posted previously, this was going to be a Christmas gift for my Dad so he could video chat with the kids. He was up this weekend and I let him play with it for a while (told him it was mine). He struggled to use it, even with the stylus - it often did not respond to his touch. He thought the idea was good, but it just wasn't that smooth and he had a hard time with the keyboard. In the end, he told me he would just prefer to use a real computer.

The Maylong should be here tomorrow - I'll play with it for a short time and then return it too, maybe - I might end up keeping it for myself if it is even halfway useable - I may load some of the kids' movies on it and use it in the car. I returned the Sylvania on Saturday without any problems. As a matter of fact, when I bought the Sylvania, it was $179. I called the next day when I saw that it was on sale for $149 and got a $30 refund. When I took it in to return it, I told the associate that I actually got it for $149. When he scanned the receipt, he told me that they were refunding me the whole $179 (plus tax). He said that it was up to the webstore (bought it online and picked up in store) to determine if my $30 refund would be pulled. He said if not, you come out ahead. He also told me that they would be re-selling it for some super low price (my guess is sub-$100).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FredOak3:
Hmmm the Coby Kryos is another possibility then if the Sylvania doesn't pan out.

I will get a tablet under $200....just keep swimming, swimming.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elmonica:
Coby Kyros

I guess that Coby tablet is currently only being sold by the store Adorama in NY City

Anyone living in New York city want to go and buy it and give it a test?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Gr8Danes:
Got returned.

Well, after much thought, I finally made the plunge and returned the Maylong back to its rightful owner (Walgreens).

I was looking for an inexpensive unit that I could give my daughter as a xmas present. If I was having trouble with the scrolling of the screen, the wifi dropping constantly, and horrible battery life, there is no way she would be able to use it. The idea is to keep her from bugging me to use my Captivate, but I think this would have had her bugging me in a whole other way (to fix it).

For those of you that have returned yours, have your found another inexpensive unit that is still functional as promised? With a capacitive screen rather than a resistive? Hopefully android 2.1 or above?

Thanks for the recommendations ahead of time.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jammallnyte:
today is maylong delivery day. Ill experiment with it but I have zero hope in it being worth the $100
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teardropcity:
Seems like when the Maylong first came out, users were generally happy with it. I wonder if the product quality has dropped on this later shipment, or if originally people were just less picky. I am still waiting on mine.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mcocorochio:
My Maylong arrived early and I am happy with it. Since my Maylong was an early model, I was able to root it. Now it is a little bit more usefull.

I think the cause of the unhappy users we are seeing is that a very large number of folks thought they were going to get a much higher quality unit for some reason.

For about $100 I was not expecting anything but a learning tool. The criticisms of the screen are well founded. They keep the Maylong from being a truely useful tool, but I still easily got my money's worth from what I learned about Android in general.

As the latest units come on the market; I have a very good idea of what I want, and don't want, in a more expensive tablet.

Should my Maylong survive until it is replaced, it has a number of potential uses for other members of the household. It could be a simple game playing device, a picture/slideshow viewer, or a very portable web browser.

It is not the best quality, but I have no problem with the money I spent on it.

Mike
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] teardropcity:
That's good to hear. I am by no means expecting a miracle. I am prepared for slowness and a resistive screen. I have a Droid X so I can get my high end fix from it. I just want something with a bigger screen for being on the couch, web browsing and reading from Kindle. Hopefully mine arrive soon, but UPS hasn't updated info since the 11th
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] maestroteague:
My sylvania did the same thing with it's battery but now all of a sudden it started to work! My maylong still hasn't left the warehouse (ordered on 28th), but the sylvania does feel good in the hand. I like the rubberized back. I hate the lack of hard buttons for volume on it. If u start angry birds and it's too loud, u have to exit, adjust the volume, and go back in. If you didn,t guess right on the level you have to do it again. Still gonna play with it until my maylong shows up to compare and decide.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FredOak3:
I was thrilled with mine until it died after 2 days, if it had kept working I would have thought it a $100 worth of fun.

I think their quality control is just so hit and miss you had no clue if you got a good one or bad one and seemed to be about a 50/50 shot.