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[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuff:
t-mobile and at&t use different frequencies for their 3g network.

That's why Google has a T-Mobile version of the N1, and an at&t version. The t-mobile that works with t-mobile 3g, does NOT work with at&t 3g. And vice versa. The guy is screwed and can use at&t edge network, but not 3g.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iakeco:
He is not screwed, I've been using the t-mobile version on att for about a year and it's not to bag. I use wifi at home and at work.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krohnjw:
I think the he's screwed referred to his desire to get 3G reception on AT&T with a T-Mo Nexus One.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
You can ask for your phone back, refund the buyer and know your facts next time.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] futango:
The phone IS unlocked. Meaning it works with Tmobile or ATT. So you did get it right there. Just like the others are saying. Tmobile N1 wont work on ATT 3G and visa versa. If you never stated that it will work on ATT 3G in the beginning i dont see it as your fault. The user should of asked questions prior to buying the phone. Unlocked doesnt mean it will work on both networks 3G's service. Unlock just means the phone will work on any network with a SIM.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krabman:
Unlocked means that it is not locked to a specific carrier, not that it will work on any network. Depending on your area a tmo phone may or may not be able to ride 3G. In my area it would be edge only. If you said the phone was AT&T compatible for 3G your description was incorrect, a compatible phone would support both 850 and 1900. If you said it "might" work on AT&T, area depending, then you were honest as far as a court date would go. Were it me I would offer to refund so long as the buyer payed shipping regardless of how I worded it. Usually you have to suffer to do the right thing, in this case you can do it for nothing.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaczman:
thanks for all your help guys, he sent it back and i gave him a full refund and posted it back on ebay with the correct information.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmay:
is there like a software or root, rom etc that can fix that promblem
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] futango:
Nope. I think they tired to do that before on the G1, but finally gave up and said it was impossible.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rod3:
Noo because it is a hardware issue.
[Windows Phone 7 General] theomni:
Just out of curiosity, how many of you are holding out on buying a new WP7 phone until 2nd generation? I know for the average user, these specs may seem amazing, but for the advanced/techy users, it seems under-powered.This is especially because they're using a 2 year old CPU when a more recent one that has better 3d performance and battery life is out in the market.

I, for one, will be holding on to my Touch Pro until 2nd generation WP7 comes out. Anyone have any idea when that will be?
[Windows Phone 7 General] blanket:
would like to hold out, but the problem here is my touch pro's backspace, space, 1, tab, and fn key has basically died out on me
[Windows Phone 7 General] theomni:
You should use the swype keyboard. I never went back to the physical keyboard once I started using swype.
[Windows Phone 7 General] blanket:
tried it

don't really like it

i still prefer physical keys though

but yah, i'm looking to get the venue pro. but it seems to look like the tp's keyboard, and frankly, i do dread it a little
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sledgeman:
If i had a decent phone today i would wait for second gen, but i'm on an HTC Magic now, running Android 2.1 and everything is soooooooo slow i feel like throwing the phone into the wall. Can hardly scroll on this forum on the phone because it's so laggy.

Have set my eyes on an HTC Mozart.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Intervenient:
I'll definitely be waiting for the 2nd gen. All the phones looks pretty ugly IMO, not to mention the old processors....and the AT&T selection sucks.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Paolo01:
I'd like to wait, but my Fuze is on life support. As much as I would like for the specs to be better for this first gen of WP7 phones, they handily beat the Iphones specs and most WM phones. I am buying a gen one knowing that I will be buying a gen two next summer. I am considering my gen one as a 'get aquainted' with the OS phone while I hold out for a stunner in '11.

http://designfabulous.blogspot.com/2010/07/htc-1.html

Well, we can dream. HTC just needs to hire this guy.
[Windows Phone 7 General] diablos991:
I think people that hold out aren't as tech savvy sad they think.

Understand that android is optimized to run on various hardware specs. While windows phone 7 was designed for this specific hardware.

The same spec phone running both operating systems won't be comparible. The overall speed of wp7, the quality of the apps, and the games will be superior to android even after the dual core phones release.

The only thing that could bump the android back up is strong min specs of the new version of the OS and market apps that are only available to phones with those specs. Developers need to also commit to designing apps for a very small market of those top-of-the-line phones.

Those are the reasons why my rooted nexus one, car dock, and desktop dock will be on ebay within a month.

I love android, but I am always excite to test new things. After all, one could always ebay the phone and buy another extremely easily. I don't see any reason not to try wp7 unless you are locked into a contract and unwilling to buy an unsubsidized phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] krjcook:
Nah I'm gonna get the HD7 as soon as my contract expires in late spring. Currently have the Moto Cliq with Android. If MS makes a Zune HD2, than I might think about getting a 64gb version of that and get the latest and greatest Android phone, Iphone, or Palm Phone.

Definitely not digging android anymore;

*sluggish, having to constantly kill apps and restart the phone

*Multiple OS fragmentation means I missing out on a lot of apps

*No app quality control (sick of buying an app thats sluggish or just plain buggy)

*No Easy Desktop Sync like Itunes or Zune

*NO AUTOMATICALLY UPDATING MUSIC PLAYLIST - A biggy for me.

Also I have a zune pass and hate having to convert my music just because Android doesn't play WMA DRM.

WP7 minimum specs aren't all that, but better than the minimum of Android which is still 528mhz processor for Android 2.1
[Windows Phone 7 General] janemanno1:
The little angel sitting on the right shoulder is saying "Wait, wait!"

The little devil sitting on the left shoulder is saying "Get it, what are you afraid of? Offline Outlook Sync?"

Oh it is so hard!

But on a serious note, as soon as I am sure that it will Sync with Offline Outlook or I have a non cloud solution that I can trust, I will get it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] TriAxisFL:
There isn't going to be an ideal phone for me in the first wave, but I'm gonna get one soon. Ideally I want the Dell Venue Pro but with Super AMOLED instead of AMOLED, and a MSM8255 SoC instead of the QSD8250's. But besides that, I think I will be happy with the Dell. "Dude, you're getting a Dell"

Also I really want WP7 to succeed. So in order to get a phone those next 2nd Gen phones with the Dual Cores and 32GB of memory, that means the 1st gen's need to succeed. So I'm gonna buy one to support my long term goals.
[Windows Phone 7 General] powersquad:
the QSD8250 has still more than enough horsepower to be used today. don't just look at what speeds and GPU does a processor holds but also take into the fact how well the OS utilizes the processor.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Cruzer1:
IMO its best to get the first wave. By the time the second wave hits (say this time next year), none of the apps/games will be fully utilising the power of the new processors anyway (since majority of WP7 handsets would have the QSD cpu and that'd be where the money for devs is). So you'll have all this power yet nothing to make use of it (basically like the Galaxy S). It'll take about 6 months imo til games start utilising the newer processors and run somewhat subpar on first gen devices.

So IMO that gives first-devices from launch about 18months of excellent performance, before it starts feeling 'old in the tooth'. By the time first gen buyers upgrade in approx. 24months, there'd be the third generation CPU's hitting the streets, and that'd be able to run second gen apps with ease, and the whole cycle starts again.
[Windows Phone 7 General] diego1985:
I'm definitely waiting until this gets jail broken. And if Htc comes out with a slide out keyboard for it. Not enough good phone options for me. When phones similar to the tilts come back wp7 has got my full attention then.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Casey_boy:
At the moment, I just can't justify giving up my HD2.

It'd be amazing if WP7 gets ported to the HD2 and I will, for sure, boot it up. I'm sceptical about some aspects of WP7 and so would like to see what impact (if any) these aspects have on my day-to-day usage.

If all goes well, then I will consider a WP7 device early next year. Hopefully, by then we'll have had a round of updates for stability issues (inevitable) and some missing features added.

So, in short, I think I'll hold out till wave 2 (or at least until the OS has settled a bit).

Casey
[Windows Phone 7 General] lumpaywk:
then you should wait for the htc 7 pro this looks amazing and i don't think it will be long before someone jailbreaks it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] eknutson:
Both :)

Gonna get the new WP7 phone out of the gate, for sure. Then I'll be in a great position to sit back and wait for a 'dream device,' which I'm not sure will make it out before the holidays next year. If it does, I'll get it, but if not I'll have gotten my money's worth with the phone I'm going to get shortly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cyclical:
I have no choice but to wait. I am on Sprint, so I can't even begin to think about getting one until they release theirs. And "sometime in 1st half of 2011" is pretty vague. So for now, I have to sit back and read about everyone's experience.

So hopefully, I will be reading good reviews. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Microsoft updates WP7 so any exploits will be patched in record time.

You can prolly refuse the OTA, but it can suck if that fix is bundled with a fix/enhancement you need...

Clear ur jailbreak and get copy and paste, or go without? Lol...
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
That's a truth with some modifications. Yes, the 8250 is more than powerful enough to run the OS and any games/apps released for it - it is however not powerful enough to playback [most] HD video and this is the reason why I'm disappointed by the current wave of devices.

I have terabyte upon terabyte of [mostly] HD video stored on my server which I am unable to view on the phone without re-encoding them. This is a process I go thru at the moment with my HD2 and I was really looking forward to a little more horsepower in WP7 devices so I could simply import then rather than spend a lot of time re-encoding them first.

Personally, I have to get a 1st wave device for development purposes, but I very much doubt it will replace my current HD2 or Evo as the day to day phone. Not only for reasons of hardware but also due to lack of services offered locally (no localized bing search, no XBL integration, no 'full' marketplace, no Zune pass and the list goes on).
[Windows Phone 7 General] MalekoUK:
I was considering getting one, but decided to wait, like anything new, wait for the bugs to be ironed out, and await a update or similar.
[Windows Phone 7 General] diablos991:
WP7 has xbl integration. Where did you hear that zune pass would not be supported?

The official Microsoft page explicitly states that the phone will have zune pass and xbox live integration.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gmfeld:
Will be trying to hold out

As an AT&T user whose minimum requirement is a physical keyboard, I'm underwhelmed with the initial AT&T offerings. Actually, I can't believe it-they're trying to be *the* WP7 vendor, and this is what they come out with??? My Fuze screen is so physically beaten up that I've been looking forward to this release, but am no going to try to wait and hold on. I really don't want to end up with the LG Quantum.
[Windows Phone 7 General] indup:
when are the second gen devices expected and has there been any definite confirmation that the specs are going to be better?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sledgeman:
It will not be supported in all countries at start and Microsoft are extremely bad at pointing this out on their website. I live in Sweden and phones are getting an official launch here but they don't mention anywhere about the lack of services. No XBOX Live, no marketplace, no localized bing and so forth. There is probably a workaround for the xbl and market part where you register a fake Live account in for example UK or US but the general public doesn't know that. Microsoft support will have a lot of explaining to do when angry customers ask them why they can't connect to their XBOX Live account and why they can't see marketplace in Zune.

The worst thing is, according the man responsable for the nordic release, they don't have a clear update plan for the countries that doesn't have access to the services. :confused:
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Difference is with WP7 the software is optimised for the hardware and its plainly obvious with all the demos showing devices playing 3D games without breaking a sweat, yet the HD2 has problems playing simple games like Ferrari GT. Specs alone dont tell the story with WP7, and waiting for phones with later tech could turn out to be a long wait indeed, since there is no guarantee MS will be quick to certify newer hardware AND you then have the lottery of whether your carrier will carry the newer phones in the first place. At this point, nothing suggests WP7 hardware is lacking, it records in HD, plays back HD, plays 3D games; not sure what more someone would want, apart from bragging rights to having the latest hardware.
[Windows Phone 7 General] WhyBe:
What is waiting on the 2nd generation going to solve?

How do you know that it too won't be behind the curve for the same reasons as the 1st gen devices?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Omega Ra:
I was looking at the apps this morning in ZUNE and saw something called PC Connect...might be good for you
[Windows Phone 7 General] diego1985:
It would be a nice phone, But i Im on At&T network. So I got to hope they get it right.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rexian:
I'll hold out, like I did for my 1st gen iPhone... for a good deal. Even if MS is quicker than Apple in releasing the 'perfect' one, it'll easily take couple of years.

It took 3 yrs for Apple to release a seriously 'better' device (s/w & h/w) than 1st gen. I can wait that long if I get one now. Hoping for a great deal this black Friday ... or Christmas. I am glad that I could ride out the Droid fad ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Microsoft works with multiple manufacturers, unlike apple.

Bad comparison is bad.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] etjrowe:
So I've tried both the T-Mobile black gel case, and the T-mobile branded BodyGlove Black Matrix case.

First, the BodyGlove case sucks! Slick and hard. Not comfortable in your hand at all. The build quality around the edges is so bad, that it actually keeps the keyboard from opening all the way. It leave much of the front still exposed and makes some buttons hard to access. It costs $29.99. It's total FAIL.

The basic black snap on gel case though is awesome! Fits perfect and snaps on nice and secure.. Nice to hold. Actually thinner (less extra heft) than the BodyGlove one. Almost complete coverage including buttons, yet they are still easy to find and push. Only downside, smells HORRIBLE when new, even after wash with dish soap. But the smell fades after a day or so. Costs $16.99. WIN.

There are probably cheaper options just as good, but I didn't pay full price for these, and for people not wanting to risk unknown quality of online cheapos, it's a good option.

T-mobile make these packages easy to open so you can try them out easily in the store too, I like that.

Hope this info helps someone.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] eioous:
I just returned my hard case for the gel one today. That hard body glove case sucks compared to the gel skin case. With the hard case the keyboard did not open right leaving the screen wobble. The gel skin is a perfect fit, was $14 less, and overall fells better ing my hands.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] DJ ELITE:
i'm using the gel case from t-mo.

i then tried to fit the phone & gel case in to their "universal" Black Leather Horizontal Pouch, but to no avail.

any recommendations?

**********

SHUCKS! tho i didn't see it at the store, i should've gotten this instead...

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns/Accessories/AccessoryDetailPopUp.aspx?accessory=b0c44e98-ec8f-4a91-8661-d3a69364f846&inCart=True&catCode=21
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] theclueless:
i tried that on a tmobile store; keyboard does not open all the way properly
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] starfcker69:
Oh, great! I have the body skin matrix on the way, should get it in a day or so. It got good reviews on the G2 TMO forums :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] gqkevyn:
Umm this may seem like a dumb question but does any know of an easy way to removed the front peice of the T-Mobile Gel case? I'm having a difficult time taking it off. Afraid that I might snap the phone before it comes off.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] yayitzben:
Dont lift from the corners. Lift from the middle part of the side where it bends easily and work your way to the corners. Hope that helps!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] xmasguy:
yeah, thats the only downside to what is otherwise an excellent product. the gel case is a real ***** to take off :p
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] sinistersai4d4d:
Also have the gel case. Makes the phone heavy as hell, but it fits well and makes it easier to hold. I also think it protects it well.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using telepathy and unicorn dust!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] pdxrealtor:
I agree. Tmo gel case here and its a winner. I have a full body invisible shield on the way but I really like the full protection of this gel skin.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] etjrowe:
I've always been a skin fan, the gel case was only going to be a temporary solution for me, but I think I'm going to continue using it.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] starfcker69:
I've been using the Body Glove Matrix for a few weeks now and am pretty happy with it! I like that there's full access to the tough pad - no case around that area.

The bit if texture from the matrix pattern gives it a bit more traction when holding it, but I could be imagining that it makes a difference.

Great case!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] sinistersai4d4d:
Now I just need a case that makes the keyboard snap and lock open and closed!

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using telepathy and unicorn dust!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] dustrho:
Yes, this is an old thread, but I'm curious to know what people think about the Gel Skin cases T-Mobile sells. The HTC hard shell case I purchased a while ago doesn't work anymore, as the teeth have broken on it so it doesn't stay on my phone anymore. Looking for something that protects, doesn't slip easily out of my hand, and is affordable. I've been thinking about the Otterbox case as it's between $20-25 online, but after seeing that the Gel Skin TMO case is only $8.49 how can I go wrong?

Thoughts/comments?

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...47c8-b549-1d00f4d04c5e&inCart=True&catCode=21
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] dustrho:
I saw the Gel Skin case at a TMO store during my lunch break today, and they were selling them for $16.99. I told one of the employees that they're on sale for $8.49 on their site, and that they wouldn't sell it to me for $8.49. WTF?

The case seemed okay to me. Quite an odd-feeling texture going on with it, not totally sold on it. Hmmm.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Kevinik:
I used the T-mobile Gel case but the textured grip surface made it difficult to slide in and out of pockets, so I got an Otterbox Commuter case. The rubber buttons on the Otterbox are great. Even though the TMob Gel case texture gripping works well on fabrics it didn't work on surfaces.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Crey23:
+1

+1 spot on description. I just got the otter box case, I am very happy.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] senser1080:
Black gel skin case does make the phone easier to hold.

Although taking it off is a pain, literally. It scratched the crap out of my phone when taking it off, now there's gauges where the teeth were. Tmo black gel skin case kept the screen sorta loose and wobbly.

If you are okay with dust, and not really cleaning it out much and a big phone too.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] bongd:
Hey guys, what visual voicemail apps are you using? For some reason I can't find any in the market. I don't know if there's a problem because I've rooted my X10 but it's irritating.

Is anyone here able to download any visual voicemail apps? Do I need to apply any sort of market fix or patch? I am in Canada, BTW. Thank you!
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] tuxStyle:
What is a visual voice mail? :o
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] bongd:
It's a voicemail app that allows you to instantly access and play your voicemail without dialing the voicemail number and waiting what seems to be forever.

I usually program my voicemail number to include my password but still.. that's the one thing I miss about my iPhone. I'd just click on my voicemail and immediately play it without waiting forever.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] gtaycher:
Get Google voice. it will do what you want. It will send you SMS or e-mail with transcribed message.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] bongd:
I want something that accesses the voicemail system and actually interacts with it. It's a front-end basically. I live in Canada too so Google Voice isn't an option. Thank you for trying to help though.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] tuxStyle:
Well, in this case it should be something carrier specific i guess.

So, something provided by Rogers, Fido, Bell, etc.

I don't think 3rd party software has access to voicemails but i might be wrong.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Tri3Dent:
How do you include the password or access code to the voicemail number?
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] shredrex:
I am with Rogers in Ontario, and when I got my x10 and new data plan.....my voice messages automatically come to me via sms. I am not sure how or why.....but they do :-)
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] im_iceman:
can't you create a contact which contains the "pause" (long press on # I think) and the passcode then create a shortcut on your home screen to it?
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] bongd:
^^^

This is what I was talking about. Still though, it takes a good while before it actually goes through and the voicemail waiting indicator drives me insane!

I found a few apps in the market but can't access them. I'm at work. I'll post the names later and hopefully another user can test it out. It was so awesome on the iPhone!
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] dutchschultz:
did you ever figure this out? i miss it from my iphone too
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bazinga:
Hi,

I just upgraded my android to the latest zImage (the 10/17). The speed is much faster than it was before, but theres a problem with the Camera preview. When I open up the camera, theres a very heavy blue tint, but when I take a picture, it comes out normal. :confused:

I'm running Shubcraft 1.5CM6, radio 2.12.5.02_2, hardspl 3, spl 2.08.

Any suggestions? Thanks!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JanssoN:
Try this. Just copy it in your AndroidApps folder inside the Android folder on your SD and do a reboot. It also enables 5MP if you haven't already. :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bazinga:
THANKS! It works! :D

But theres two camera icons in the menu now.