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[Android Apps and Games] vud911:
This would be the wrong decision. There are people who bought the unlocker because of the changed plan. If he does change, he would effectively screw the people who already bought over because we didn't need to buy the unlocker app in the first place to continue using the program.

If he does switch back over to free he would be a liar AND a chronic flip-flopper. Why would I buy anything from him ever if he keeps jumping back and forth. Jumping from paid to free in my book within a week is a lot worse than free to paid. One I'm not losing anything tangible if I cease to use the product and the other one is monetary. And really...a week?

He made a business decision. I hope he sticks with the decisions he make for all his current and future apps.
[Android Apps and Games] Synssins:
Thank you for correcting me.

I was in the heat of my post when I typed that all out, and so may have been off a little bit.

But, as the poster immediately above me stated, I feel going back to a free app would be a bad thing...

Now, here is a potential solution that would work on every front, while causing no extra heartache for the developer...

"Free forever" for VPlayer... Stop development on it. It is a usable app with plenty of features (read: video file playback support). You can have this app for free, for as long as Android and the App Market are around.

Take the same exact code for VPlayer, polish it up, add some better GUI features and additional device support... Release as "VPlayer Plus"... Charge for it.

All "donators" and anyone who has spent money on VPlayer at all since it's inception get a free update to VPlayer Plus, via an email confirmation between them and the developer, etc.. Whatever works best.

He has therefor kept his promise to keep "VPlayer" free forever...

He never promised to continue support and development for it, from anything I can find...

And, he has the opportunity to continue development for VPlayer Plus, and make something back from the community...

If people want to try it, they can try the VPlayer Free... It works fine for them, then they are set... But if they want direct hardware rendering, with 1080p support on displays that support it, with additional features and a polished UI (all of the above are just examples), then they pony up the 2 or 3 bucks.

That is a reasonable solution to all and should stop the haters saying "You should leave XDA forever cause you are a horrible person with no soul for wanting to make money for your hard work."

Does that work for people?
[Android Apps and Games] vud911:
Slight problem. I bought the 'unlocker' because it is a necessity to buy it to continue using this program.

I wouldn't have bought it if there was an ad version/free version available on the market to continue using the program. What I'm trying to say is, I bought (paid money) into the rights to use the program not an enhanced app of an app that already fulfill my needs. No offense but I would never ever buy anything from him again if he does pull anything remotely to this, unless there is a refund for the people who already paid for the app. Down the road maybe...but 1-2 weeks and switcharoo is disgusting.
[Android Apps and Games] Synssins:
I understand your thoughts...

But I'd like to point something out...

First: A disclaimer. I have nothing to do with the developer, no contact with him/her, and no association with him/her. I am only posting as a person who has experience with delivering a product to a customer base.

Everyone who has my wiring harness gives it rave accolades.. Something I strived hard for.

Did people have to buy my harness when I raised the price on it? No.

But many of them did, even the people who griped. Because I offered a better product than anyone else. That is why it took me a year to catch up on back orders, and I am now suffering from Carpal Tunnel *Ugh*...

I see that with this app.. "AWESOME! It works!" and so on, so forth... I wonder how many of the people who got upset with the developer over his/her decision to start billing have actually uninstalled the application? I'd be willing to bet less than 5%.

They'll still continue using it because it is a superior application to anything else available at the moment.

Now, the item I'd like to point out...

There are other player apps out there that are free. When the developer chose to switch to a paid version, you were not required to update the application that was already installed on your device. There was no law that required an update.

Changing free to paid licensing is NOT backwards compatible, so legally, if he/she said "You have it on your device, pay me" even if you have a previous build which was free, you don't have to.

You chose to update the app, and pay for the update, therefor you are willing to continue supporting the developer by your actions, if not your thoughts.

You could have said "No, I don't support that decision" and shown the developer by withholding your hard earned cash and going to another app. Albeit, a less featured application.

Therefor, my previous argument about a solution holds. It would still provide a good means of resolving this entire issue, and people who choose not to spend the money because the developer changed licensing an payment information halfway through development after a verbally stated "free forever" clause are free to not spend the money.
[Android Apps and Games] vud911:
I had Automatically Update Application checked. Anyone who use the Update All button is in the same boat.
[Android Apps and Games] Synssins:
Now that I can understand. I shut off updates on mine, and only update when it tells me there is something available.

You could always roll back to one of the Alpha builds, rather than use the market. I have the APK for Alpha 0.7.7.a5.

Legally still available for free use.
[Android Apps and Games] vud911:
That's not a solution for the people who already paid.

Either keep it paid or switch it back to free and refund everyone who paid.
[Android Apps and Games] Synssins:
Re-read my "solution" post...

That fits for what you just stated. It would take him less than five minutes to turn the existing VPlayer into "free" mode, and add VPlayer Plus to the market. If you already paid, your paid version would update to Plus mode.

I just ran through the code in the APK and could remove everything that makes it time out, but it is not my app or my right to do so.
[Android Apps and Games] vud911:
I don't need VPlayer Plus is my point. I paid for the app because I had to, not because I wanted the extra features. I would just been happy with an ad/free version, hence I wouldn't have paid for it in the first place.

Summary: I wouldn't have paid for the app if it is free. So yes, if he does switch back to free I would like my money back. That's definitely not a developer I want to deal with.

Free->Paid -- Okay I understand, I like the program.

Paid->Back to Free in a week -- What the hell?
[Android Apps and Games] Synssins:
Now, if he did that, I was unaware, as I have not followed the most recent updates...

That I can understand being pissed about... If he hasn't done so and plans to, then yes, he needs to refund money.

I see your point.
[Android Apps and Games] vud911:
He haven't done it yet. But if he were to, yea I would be mad. The app was switched over to paid about 2 days ago. That's not a long time.

If he refund my money then meh, do whatever he wants with it.
[Android Apps and Games] MercuryTangent:
Posted in the announcement thread as well.

The dev originally said this will be free forever. He gets as many people to beta test as he can and then switches to a paid application. This "bait-and-switch" tactic is unacceptable.

Developer: Why haven't you responded to defend your position? Why hasn't anything we've said been taken into consideration? You post " I wanna change VPlayer to a PAID app" with a little crying emoticon, tell us you're going back on your promise of "Free Forever!!!" and then don't bother to even come back and acknowledge our responses? Such a frustrating move to make, and then to have you completely and utterly bail on us after doing it?! That's dirty no matter how you look at it.

Developer, be a man (or woman) of your word. Post a free version on the Market, give a version with more features for a fee.
[Android Apps and Games] niftyone:
This hits the nail right on the head for me. Dev said it would be free, got everyone here to donate their time beta testing and finding bugs. Then makes it a paid app. Not cool to use the community as a system testing team without giving anything back.
[Android Apps and Games] ekstelis@comcast.net:
Just find beta4 and put it behind a update blocking program..... still free... still awesome program.
[Android Apps and Games] xiewangkai:
i'll find it,maybe it's can happy me
[Android Apps and Games] belchie:
I installed beta3 and turned off auto updates in the market but still got forced to upgrade to the paid trial. Can you suggest any other method of blocking the update? Is there an app for blocking? Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] nabuhonodozor:
For people having "app not installed" in milestones (which have NEON) - I found in log such an entry:

Native ABI mismatch from package.

Package couldn't be installed in data/app/me.abitno.vplayer.apk

MAybe this help Abitno to solve the issues with some Milestones (mine particulary...)

Thank You,
[Android Apps and Games] Sixe:
You have to install the beta4.

http://www.multiupload.com/9N443LA349
[Android Apps and Games] Sixe:
I've purchased the unlocker but I can't install it. It won't download, keep saying "Download unsuccessful". Other apps download and install works perfectly. I'm on Gingerbread.

EDIT: About 5 hours later, it worked.
[Android Apps and Games] skulk3r:
trial version now? =[

i wouldn't have minded buying the donation version since it was so awesome...but now i feel lied to =[
[Android Apps and Games] vud911:
I had that issue with another problem when there was an authorization problem with my credit card.
[Android Apps and Games] Jimmy.tech96:
I m also find it but i m scare to use it. :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] Dysgenic:
Going to try this soon, thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] vud911:
He's already up to 1000-5000 downloads already. Very nice.

At the minimum he earned 2k over 3-4 days even after the Google cut. I doubt he would ever considering going back to free. :D.
[Android Apps and Games] MordyT:
Latest Version Fixes:

*Fixed the "Free Forever" Bug

*Lied to everyone who ever downloaded this

*Showed real reason why it had a timebomb
[Android Apps and Games] kikan:
give DONATE money back to all who helped you and beta tested for you...

for all beta testers you could make one free version...

kikan
[Android Apps and Games] niksite:
Yeah, downloads count for vplayer is >250000, so he cheated at least quarter of a million people, earning about 5,000$

Does it really worth it (I'm not sure about average salary level in China, in my country 5,000$ is usual salary for about month or two)?
[Android Apps and Games] Sixe:
Okay, Abitno changed his mind, but I don't think that ~2€ is such a high price to pay for the best video player for Android. 2€ is just a little more than an espresso in a café! Was alpha/beta testing the app such a hard work? Reporting bugs or asking for new features took me less than 10 minutes in a month and Abitno has always corrected or added them.

About VLC, I'm not sure it will be as good as VPlayer for casual video playback. VLC has never been a user friendly app. I'm pretty sure there'll never be gestures shortcuts in VLC.
[Android Apps and Games] primatage:
VLC not a user friendly app, and you don't know if it will be better than Vplayer?

I'm sorry but those two statements are on the dim-witted side of what-planet-do-you-live-on.
[Android Apps and Games] Sixe:
I've known VLC since its beginnings, never liked the UI and always find it very difficult to set. For me the best video player for Windows is KMPlayer (not the Android release which is one of the worst Android video player).
[Android Apps and Games] nomedor:
I will not support this app because the developer lied to us to go viral!

I will prefer other video players that never promised to be free forever!

I strongly advice everyone to stop using this application!
[Android Apps and Games] vud911:
He lives in HK. I'd say it is worth it to him. Jumping from earning less than a Nexus S in a month+ from donation to making 2k over 3-4 dayis quite an increase.
[Android Apps and Games] mancukya:
downloads count for vplayer is 250000 because its free.

1 RockPlayer Universal

2 Act 1 Video Player

3 Yxplayer

4 Vplayer

5 Meridian Media Player

6 Mlayer

7 Original media player (Samsung, Htc, Motarola)

8 Other player i not know name

And some are better than Player, Your player its best because its Free

Good chance man Your player its populer because its Free and XDA whit you.
[Android Apps and Games] Chainfire:
This app has now changed into an expiring trial app. While it is fully in the developer's rights to make this change, these sort of apps are not allowed on XDA.

Thread closed.
[Android Apps and Games] ABitNo:
No copy protected, and I select all countries:)
[Android Apps and Games] Stormwing:
Nice work!

Issues:

-has trouble with .wmv like most Android players

-A/V sync issues when skipping through larger files

Features I'd Like:

-Ability to only show playable media files

-Perhaps make the pause location time in the file browser to be in a more eyecatching color? I entirely missed it until I saw the "Clear" button in the menu.

-Maybe show battery level/clock when you bring up the seek bar like Rockplayer? 8've found it to be pretty useful...

-Audio Channel Selection (don't know if it's possible, but say choosing a French audio track instead of a video's default English one)

-Subtitle support (I don't mean softsubs, subtitles in the file itself. I've got a video that shows subs on Media Player Classic on PC but none of the Android players can see it, and there was no .srt file)

Side Notes:

-It atttempted a 720p video admirably (lol), still not at a viewable framerate but better than anything else I've used

-Love the super light wieght. Less than half the filesize of both Rockplayer and arcMedia? Awesome.

*EDIT*: scratch that, DL size is small but its actually bigger :/

I'm on an OG Moto Droid running at 1GHz. Looking forward to the next release!
[Android Apps and Games] TheUntouchable:
Having real problems playing 3gp files.. They are laggin that much and i cant do anything with my phone till the files is played till end..

Desire with Madaco r8
[Android Apps and Games] leisures:
motorola milestone not supported?

i cant install it on 2.1 .

vp7 has neon support?
[Android Apps and Games] waterbound:
android 2.2 CM6

Can't find in Market...
[Android Apps and Games] martian21:
Not exactly what you asked for but I use this:

http://www.appbrain.com/app/cifsmanager/ws.plattner.cifsmanager

Let's me mount any smb (Windows) share and browse to it like it's local to my phone (I use Astro)

I'm able to play H.264 encoded DVD rips over my network with no problem on my Fascinate (Galaxy S).

Martian21
[Android Apps and Games] diljaleali:
sorry i m new to this forum... from where i hv to download this player
[Android Apps and Games] mr.r9:
I tried playing a 1080p, *.mov movie trailer and it worked but the frame rate was crap. However, the fact that the app played it & didn't crash or anything is very very good :D

I am looking forward for further development of this app, thank you ABitNo. If you want a tester or someone to try out various formate/bitrates I'll be more than happy to help.
[Android Apps and Games] Darksurf:
Agreed, although the "Ability to only show playable media files" is sometimes a pain. Rockplayer can play OGM video files, but when the option above is selected it doesn't even appear in the file list. Its kinda a nuisance.

Are there any plans for multi audio-track support? This would be the only player to have it thus far if it was included. Ex. MKV files can contain japanese and english audio tracks in the same file, give option to choose audio track.

Great JOB for an alpha! Keep up the good work! I will keep this alpha hopefully to see updates as they come from you ;)
[Android Apps and Games] rmcsc:
It's great! Expect a review on my blog!
[Android Apps and Games] pingels:
looks like it has no problem with .wmv files also : )
[Android Apps and Games] bradu17:
Can't find app

I searched on the Android Market store from my Dell Streak and the application doesn't show up. Any idea why ?
[Android Apps and Games] swefse:
@bradu17: You could always download it from http://abitno.me/, if you can't find it in Market.

Great app, I especially like the continuing playback feature!

I've got three suggestions:

First, if you add an option to have the play/pause button on the left side of the screen, it would make it a little easier for use left-handed people to use it. This is less of an issue when the play/pause button is in the middle, but now it's more of a problem.

Second, I think it would be great if you could move the whole bar to the top, instead of the bottom. I don't know about you guys, but at least I use to have my thumb closer to the top edge than the bottom when I hold my phone in landscape mode.

Last, maybe the one feature I'd want the most: Showing the notification bar when the status bar is shown, so you could check your notifications and know what time it is, without leaving the app.

Thank you for an already great app, can't believe it's just an alpha release!
[Android Apps and Games] revmatyi:
trying to install it, the progress starts, but after a while it says application not installed. Anyone has an idea?
[Android Apps and Games] MercuryTangent:
This player is also only about a third of the size of rock player. I'm particularly fond of that.

Sent from my King-Crowned, Virus Infected Evo using the XDA app.
[Android Apps and Games] whemmingway:
I cannot access / see anything on the author's site and I cannot find it on Market.

Can someone please attache the apk file for download?
[Android Apps and Games] faugusztin:
Go to http://abitno.me/ . Click on that big white/green V sign. That is your APK file.
[Android Apps and Games] Stormwing:
The download is, but my App Settings told me VPlayer was 6.6MB while Rockplayer was 6.4MB. If the feature set was equal to Rockplayer I'd probably stick with this though.
[Android Apps and Games] Rishikesh:
.mkv files stutter and have a buzzing sound on my tmo G2, .avi files play flawlessly though
[Android Apps and Games] nohab:
I Have a Huawei U8230 with Android 2.1 but cannot find it on Market. Can you send a link for it plz?
[Android Apps and Games] faugusztin:
nohab, seriously. 3 posts above yours.
[Android Apps and Games] afxiso:
Sweet Thanks a Lot!
[Android Apps and Games] ABitNo:
Thank you

I'm excited that so many people are supporting VPlayer. All your feedbacks will be taken care of.

Here are the issues I wanna resolve at first:

3gp files playback

video to fit fullscreen option

audio track selections

But the most important issue is that VPlayer doesn't work on Droid X and Droid 2.

I've received many emails from Droid X users, they cannot use VPlayer at all.

I have no idea on it right now. I dunno why Droid X is so special while VPlayer can work well on other devices, and I will try to fix it.

But I need your help, because I have no Droid X and I cannot afford it.

Can you Droid X users test your videos again, and send me your log file?

To send your log file, just search "log collector" from android market and install it.

Then you can test your videos with VPlayer, after that, you can use Log Collector to send your log to me (wolfplanet+vplayer@gmail.com)

Thanks for all your feedbacks:)
[Android Apps and Games] ink718:
ABitNo, great app! Was looking for something like this. If you need testers for future releases, you can count me in. ;]
[Android Apps and Games] sinean:
Downloaded from market,tried 720p divx and xvid, Ran Smooth.

Have yet to test other codex's.

Definitely need subtitles and also needs aspect ratio's. Some video's aren't ripped properly. Definitely need the Aspect ratio's.

For alpha it runs better then expected.

Can't wait to try the next version
[Android Apps and Games] metapolis:
Hello, tried with HTC wildfire, it started with installation, but than the message "no installation"
[Android Apps and Games] sturmeh:
Great job!

Please add file associations so I can open an AVI from another file-browser etc.
[Android Apps and Games] wildwong:
強力支持，謝謝樓主！ Thank you for your effort!
[Android Apps and Games] codybear:
I'll have to check out the other players listed here, I've been using rockplayer for my flv and avi wmv needs. But looking for more support.
[Android Apps and Games] fabler:
cool..man.. nice app.. supports most of basic formats. :)
[Android Apps and Games] nobloat:
Can't install, it just says "Not installed", I'm on 2.1.
[Android Apps and Games] Billx84:
Hello,

No found with my hero on rom 2.1

where can I find it?

Thx
[Android Apps and Games] h1k1j:
plz give me vplayer.apk file.. its not available in market.. thanx..
[Android Apps and Games] reflo:
Nice App. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5w_DZH9IoA
[Android Apps and Games] lohtse:
doesn't work on HTC Hero Android 2.1......

Shame as looks like has promise..
[Android Apps and Games] ABitNo:
I'm sorry, but VPlayer just works on devices with neon support.

Hero's CPU dosen't support neon at all.

However, VPlayer will work on Hero at last.:)
[Android Apps and Games] barthd:
What exactly is this neon technology?
[Android Apps and Games] ABitNo:
Neon is a set of CPU instructions
[Android Apps and Games] mugenex:
how come non of the videoplay does not have the play list?
[Android Apps and Games] phrozen87:
Tried this on my Droid 2. It is very good. I would say the playback is equal to if not better than the latest Rockplayer release. On top of that I prefer the GUI of vPlayer much more than Rockplayer . It feels cleaner to me.

The only thing that I found somewhat annoying (I know it is an alpha release so I didn't really expect it yet) is that I play a lot of iphone encoded video on my droid 2 and the resolution is wrong. A stretch to fill the screen option would be really awesome. It would also be nice to have this so you can set it to always fill the screen too on playback also. I can't wait to try out subtitle support also. As far as subtitles it would also be cool if they could be read from an MKV file as well as being in the folder. I'm still hoping for the day I can drop my anime mkvs on my phone and just watch them :)

Overall this is a really great app and just ran flawlessly on my Droid 2. I look forward to seeing how this comes along and would definitely consider buying this for my main video player once it is finished. Its just so awesome!
[Android Apps and Games] mik101:
Yes it is, please read... its on page 4.

http://abitno.me/

Click the giant V....
[Android Apps and Games] mik101:
Search for jlevy's fix for Angry Birds etc. It's been posted a few times. Will mostlikely fix it.
[Android Apps and Games] Trigg_S:
Great for an alpha

HTC Incredible + Skyraider Vanilla RC3 Froyo 2.2 - My SD avi XviDs played like butter. Many thanks for that feature. My other videos - youtube ripped flv's, iphone optimized in handbrake h264 mp4's + m4v's played great.

As for mkv's: SD x264 mkv audio + video played great. 720p x264 mkv video + audio stuttered beyond viewing. Did not even try my 1080p mkv's. Not sure if its just too taxing on the hardware.

Nice overlay of the time when dragging the slider. Love that feature.

Feature request: It'd be nice if you could set it to a default folder /sdcard/movies

Thanks for the free app. Love to see where this goes. This will be a sweet app for 1080p/720p vids on those upcoming tegra 2 android tablets.