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[Desire HD General] onesolo:
Clock1932 and how about GPS lag?!?! Can you tell us if the GPS lags when using it driving at a good speed??

Can anyone from Holland tell me what languages come with the phone??

And by the way, can anyone what are the languages that come with the phone (except the default language from the country where the phone is selling..) from the several countries?? (UK, Spain, Germany, France...)
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Thats good to hear Clock !!...not so good for the other guy though :(
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
There are virus scanners on the android market but why??...Android is based upon a modified version of the Linux kernel, linux cannot get viruses so the only thing a virus scanner will do on android is slow your phone down.

Ive never used one and never had a problem.
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Working on it. Doesn't work for me now cause I only have Windows7 here. The guide says you've to use HTC Sync, witch isn't available for the DHD, trying the Wildfire/Desire version of HTC Sync.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
HAHAHA...LOVE angry birds, best Android game !!
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Will test the GPS lag later today. Only on a bicycle though, haven't got a car here ;)
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
Excellent news. It would be too harsh if the guy who showed the world the first known DHD in the wild and answered all those questions then had his phone destroyed!
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Got it. A reboot did the trick. Got it running through the command line, HTC Sync isn't working on the DHD (yet?).

adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2 works without a error, and all the apps installed after running it will install on the SD-card. In the manage-application screen I can move the app to the phone, instead of the normal option to move it to the SD.

Is this a good thing to have by default? Or should I put it back in the original setting?
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Average touch frequency is between 38 and 40

Average accelerometer frequency is between 69 and 73

Max of 4 touching points
[Desire HD General] paulus_01:
Just new to this forum (although I have read a lot on various occasions on this forum (especially the full DHD thread) and would just like to say thanks to Clock for the excellent reviews & pics etc.

Costs a lot of time keeping up with all the news on XDA & Tweakers ;)

I'll get my DHD when T-mobile OK's my number transfer to VF (hopefully this week).

@ Clock: one of DHD selling propositions by HTC was also that you can precache google maps, did you try this and if so, how did you experience it?
[Desire HD General] tigabert:
Hi Clock1932,

According to Desire HD manual, the HTC Sync version for Desire HD is inside the microSD card that comes with the bundled package. Did you check the microSD card whteher there's a HTCSync.exe file in there?
[Desire HD General] Unrivalled:
Ok! Just one question for me. Is it as smooth as iphone4? When you touch and play the phone and browse? I am now using Touch HD. Browsing in THD lags like hell. And its quite slow sometimes. I am also seriously considering to buy DHD. Is there any lag? If it is smooth, how smooth is it? like super smooth? Please answer me! Thanks in advance.

Ps: I hate Apple and Iphone and Steve Job sucks.
[Desire HD General] xazac:
Really thanks! Well, I think it's good to have it by default, but as you can read on that guide, it's not recommended for apps that needs to run at startup (because the SD memory isn't already available after a phone reboot) [but I think it's always available when you shut the phone down, because of hibernation].

You just have to try :)
[Desire HD General] jords12:
I have a theory (collective groan) that some of the first units sold in Holland/Netherlands/wherever you strange foreigners are from :) were actually pre-production units which were mistakenly sold, since they got them early and seemed to have a few issues (sim/battery covers, proximity sensor) which people buying later and people buying in UK don't seem to have.

At least that's what I hope, since mine should be sent out soon from clove in the UK to me in New Zealand, and that's a long way to send a faulty one back! (think 1 week there, 3 weeks repair, 1 week back... 5 weeks, yay!)
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Its super smooth, no lag as I have said before, the only very very slight delay is when loading big pictures or banners in web pages as 2.2 has flash enabled..

On a side note I got in contact with e-cell, I have dealt with them for years and trust them, I asked about the screen AGAIN haha..details back were...

Display: 4.3" S-LCD Capacitive Touchscreen; 16M
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
My bad, that's correct. Got a working HTC sync. You guys had more time to read the manual then I do :p
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Remember

Dont forget the first page is being updated all the time so check back before asking more questions to save time.

Oh and "I hate the ***** for updating so fast. It's a hell of a job to keep up with it" ..that made me laugh...come on keep up !!!! haha
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Someone else said this but the hole is gone off the back, I thought on a few there was a small mic on the back.....must of been cut from the final release?

You can clearly see the hole in the back here ...in the video

http://dailymobile.se/2010/08/09/htc-desire-hd-review-htc/
[Desire HD General] apsis:
@BartOtten

Could you be so nice and perform a Benchmark Test on your DHD? Maybe Quadrant from Androidmarket. This would be nice :)

And congratulations to your phone btw ;)
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
+1 for that
[Desire HD General] BartOtten:
First of all: I don't have one :( Have to wait a few weeks.

Seconds: But I was smart enough *wink* to collect all the info the owner posts. He will read your question and if he does test it you will see the results in the topicstart. So you can now keep refreshing it :)
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
This thread should become a sticky for the time being.
[Desire HD General] BartOtten:
Already requested mate. Also working on a faster solution to provide you guys some answers to the questions.
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
files.danhof.org/DHD/7.jpg

files.danhof.org/DHD/8.jpg

files.danhof.org/DHD/9.jpg

files.danhof.org/DHD/10.jpg

files.danhof.org/DHD/11.jpg

files.danhof.org/DHD/12.jpg

files.danhof.org/DHD/13.jpg

files.danhof.org/DHD/14.jpg

I'll have to go away for 2 hours now. Sorry guys. If you list all the questions you have I'll try to answer them when o'm back!
[Desire HD General] genab.de:
OK, 2 houres are over now....

are you back. here are many People waiting :-)

only for you :-) (and your Phone)
[Desire HD General] :
Read my post, unsolved as of now

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=808791
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
More pics cool, hey no need to say sorry, Im so grateful for what you have done already
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
The entire DHD fanbase is sitting on various sites pressing F5 to get the latest and you are going out? Have a nice time, there's bound to be lots of questions later!

grats on the phone, many are very envious.
[Desire HD General] Devilsduck:
How could he! He is just teasing us
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Very interesting, thanks for that, a mystery.
[Desire HD General] Overloaded:
Haha,

I hope mine is coming soon too...

How about a stress test? Throw it on the ground and try to scratch the screen? LOL :eek:

jk, i will never do that to a htc phone, and i hope you won't do it either :D
[Desire HD General] BartOtten:
Thank you! I am really tired :P

I passed. Now I have a 2 hour break.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Well now what the hell do we do for 2 + hours :D, Im going to feed the cat I think...is the 2 hours up yet??
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
My question is: The option for the phone to fast boot is well known. To get that to work is there a "hibernate" type option when you turn off? or is it really just "power off"?
[Desire HD General] Smartmob:
If you can just ask the owner to:

- 2-3 benchmark tests

- 1 720p video and 1 WVGA video sample (15 sek is enought ;) )

- 2 MPx pictures and 1 Macro sample

- Battery life

Thank you very much ;)

As i heard from people there are 2 options when you turning off the phone:

- turn off the phone (Hibernate)

- restart phone with closing all running programs (Full restarting it...cca more than 25 sec...or i dont know how much :) )
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
this thread has grown so fast lol.

When i wake up tomorrow morning im going to have a lot of reading to do, not that im complaining :p
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
My previous phone was de THD, and indeed: it lagged quite a bit when dealing with 'large' pages. The build in browser sucked (when loading the page it only shows the bottom and continues to spring back to the bottom).

The DHD is completely different. Just bought an iPad, and browsing on the DHD is very similar speedwise. It renders the page very quickly (on WIFI that is, with 3G it will take a bit longer) and scrolling and zooming is instant. Complete different experience.
[Desire HD General] eddyrick:
that great for browsing, i have compared a few phones to the browsing to Iphone and can't wait to test DHD against it :D
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Tried the precaching of maps via HTC Sync (as described in the manual). But there's no Maps section in Sync as you see in the screenshot beneath:

Then I read the manual closer, and it says:

Sloppy HTC, get your stuff done when you release the phone or don't advertise with it...
[Desire HD General] paulus_01:
Thanks for the quick reply, much appreciated.

You are right, this is just bad gameplay by HTC: advertise everywhere that Navigation is really free (you do not need to use your cells mobile internet) and then not have it available at product launch.....frustrating...

No comments about the update release by any chance?
[Desire HD General] Ritte88:
How is the keyboard in landscape-mode?

Better than iphone?

How much % does the keyboard and input-box of the screen?. Like when you are answering mails, does it take half the screen so you have the other half to read the mail.
[Desire HD General] Spaky:
+1 with you. Would like to know more about Pre-Cached Maps features and it's not available at all :mad:. Really bad moves from HTC, this phone is also its flagship device, anyway looking forward to that.

Clock thanks for all your info and updates!
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
just came back from a lecture and i met someone who has the original Desire. I asked him if i could play with it a little and to my shock the screen was brilliant. It was very crisp, bright and colorful! I was amazed! But i wasnt sure if it was Amoled or S-LCD.

So i just wanted to ask, if anyone here has seen the screen of the Desire and how it compares to the DHD? It probably won't be as sharp because the screen in bigger on the DHD, but is it much different?
[Desire HD General] superdaddy:
Is anybody having problems with signing up to HTC Sense?? as It will not let me sign up for some strange reason.
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
My girlfriend has a Desire with a Amoled display. It's a very nice screen. The colors are a bit different from the HD but I like the HD better. I tested it in direct sunlight and also no problems. Trust me, you wont regret it.
[Desire HD General] Ritte88:
How is the landscape keyboard?
[Desire HD General] Chimero:
I believe I read somewhere that you need to log into Google Chat first and then your Sense will log in.

I do not know if it works, however no harm in trying
[Desire HD General] patriotaus:
Thank you so very much. This was my only worry. My TYTN II is unusably outside so i have learnt how to navigate it without looking. My iPhone 3g was pretty bad but at least you could actually read it. The SGS of my mate is amazing no matter where so i am really hoping i made the right decision to go for the DHD over the SGS.
[Desire HD General] MiKA7:
@Black, if you go to the app Locations and the press upgrade and scroll to Download Maps are you able to download the precached maps from there? as I am able to do it on my Desire with HDMix rom..
[Desire HD General] superdaddy:
Oh then thanks for letting me know will try now.
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
Yes The Following maps are pre installed on my phone: Belgium, France, Germany,

Luxembourg, Netherlands.

You van buy maps. They are from Route 66 BTW. The price depends on the country and the period you want to buy it for. Eg. Canada 30 days 3.99 euro,

1 jear 15.99, for live 23.98.

You can also buy Traffic info, Radar locations and voices.

EG Radar location for Benelux 1 jear: 5.99 euro

You can buy via credit Card
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
So I guess, pre cashing maps etc is available, but it works only via HTC Locations ATM.
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
The standard keyboard takes up slightly more than half of the screen in landscape mode. Akmost 2/3. In portrait it covers slightly less than 1/2.
[Desire HD General] paulus_01:
So you can confirm it does work?

Also, are you able to download new maps (for free) ?

Thx
[Desire HD General] Basil3:
My phone come with maps for UK, Ireland and France loaded on. I'm more than happy with this, as I live in England but spend a lot of time in Ireland.

Any other maps need to be purchased, at a rate per 30 days. For example, Egypt is 7.99 USD for 30 days...
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
Yes it works. You can download free Maps for almost every country, but they are without Turn by Turn navigation. The maps with TBT Nav are not free.
[Desire HD General] paulus_01:
*** EDIT *** Black just answered my question....Thanks
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
You can also select 1 year, and For life!
[Desire HD General] Basil3:
Oh yeah, and I just noticed all the free maps......nice one!
[Desire HD General] Ritte88:
Thanks for the answer mate!

So you can answer a mail and read the mail you are answering to? (I mean can you read the text you quoted in the last 1/3.)
[Desire HD General] craigspc:
That's a very bold and definitive statement, isn't it?

Linux may be a lot more secure that Windows by nature of design, but as long as there are people that think it's impossible to get a harmful piece of software on a device, there will always be room for others trying to exploit that.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/expensive-virus-hits-android-users-709260
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
Yes you can scroll up and down the part not covered by the keyboard. So at first it shows you the reaction you are typing but you can scroll down to read the message and back again.
[Desire HD General] Ritte88:
Perfect, that helped me a lot!:)
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Little bit of extra good news (I think).

Traffic updates are $9.99 for a year

Speed cameras are $7.99 for a year

As for Navigation. For a UK Map it's

$5.99 / 1 month

$24.98 / 1 year

$37.99 / Life
[Desire HD General] craigspc:
Hmm... When I watched the videos from the London release event, I could have sworn that the HTC reps said that the map content was free, but you had to pay for functions like premium navigation etc. Perhaps I was suffering from a bout of selective hearing :rolleyes: :D
[Desire HD General] jasecs:
just wondering, so if you buy the phone from uk, it will be loaded with local map, so when you want to get australia map you will have to pay? what if i import the phone from uk to australia, do i get australia maps for free?
[Desire HD General] core_sa:
Have been following this thread with much interest, thanks all for your input. I too was unhappy with my Galaxy s but since the Froyo update its a completely different phone.

I experience no lags or freezes anymore and the various benchmarks I have ran seem better than the DHD. Although the DHD is an awesome device, I see no reason to make the move (especially with the way my phone is behaving now).

As a recent Windows mobile client I am loving android :)
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
Can someone check how much is teh map for MALTA? Including turn by turn please?

Also the new users of these incredible phones... can they check abou the proximity sensor failure and the gap between the back sim cover mentioned earlier?

Thanks :)
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
You will have to pay for TBT Navigation
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Nope you're completely right. All standard maps are free. None have Turn By Turn Nav included though (not even the ones that come with it).

So you can get maps for anywhere if you want, but if you want to navigate with them, you have to cough up the dorrah.
[Desire HD General] Spaky:
Can you post your benchmarks? Just for curious..or if out of topic send it to me via PM, thanks. Anyway I will go for the DHD when available in Italy (hope soon).
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Malta comes under Europe.

$11.99 for 30 days

$49.99 for 1 year

$64.98 for life

Or under Western Europe

$9.99 for 30 days

$39.99 for 1 year

$49.99 for life
[Desire HD General] craigspc:
Aaaahh, I see :)
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
Thanks Dazultra...

Dam it's expensive... you think paying 540 (excl shipping) euros for a phone, they should ve included the turn by turn navigation for free!!!
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
About this maps issues, are there not any GPS apps for Androdi that we can use for DHD? i.e. There are many apps like IGO, TomTom for Iphone and detail maps that you can download.
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
this might sound like a dumb question but where would i find google chat?
[Desire HD General] craigspc:
Going a bit off topic here, but is anyone else getting fed up of that one guy who posts fake Desire HD video samples absolutely everywhere with the "Get your free ipad" message linking to an add site? YouTube, Google and practically every other search system pulls out these results above all the useful content that's out there. Don't know why this one gets under my skin so much, but I wish he's just crawl back into the hole that he came from.

OK... deap breaths Craig! ...Everythings gonna be alright... :D
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
You can use google maps with turn by turn for free that comes with every single android device.:D
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
Yeah!! That's so annoying. I try to pull up a search for the latest DHD videos and instead i have to dig through all his spam! ugh.

On another note. Can anyone check to see if Cyprus maps are available on the HTC location app? Thanks
[Desire HD General] paroxysm:
Doktaphex, it will incur data charges though.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
You maybe right but as of yet its been fine without an anti virus, I just know it slowed my last phone down but then again it was a SGS..

It wasn't meant to come across as a bold statement at all..
[Desire HD General] xedamen:
Has it got a Continuous focus?
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
Ok I figured it out! The phone comes with a few maps preloaded, but these are not TBT NAV. The're just like normal google maps. You can activate Premium Navigation, you'll get 30 days free Premium Nav. (TBT spoken nav) For your area (mine is The Netherlands).
[Desire HD General] eddyrick:
ill be looking forward to using Orange Maps again then if there is a cost to navigation software
[Desire HD General] Eddie1506:
And how is the area determined? IP address, where you bought the device or something else?
[Desire HD General] jasecs:
so general speaking TbT maps require subscriptions and you will get 30days free trial along with your new phone?
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
Not sure, but i think actual location (GPS)

Correct!
[Desire HD General] paulus_01:
that's a bummer!

I was hoping it had free nav. with TBT.

Does anybody know of an alternative navigation software that is trully free for Android? Maps & instructions included?

Or is there a free app that can be combined with the HTC Desire HD loaded maps to give it TBT nav?
[Desire HD General] jasecs:
@black can you please do me a battery test? load up your phone with 2-3 movies, and continuously play them after a full charge. see how long does it last? lol i dont know if thats a good test but worth trying if you have time.

cheers man, appreciated
[Desire HD General] droidgren:
Here is a black Desire HD.

Brown:

Would have been nice with IRL pics though.
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
can someone please install WIKITUDE DRIVE from here...

http://www.wikitude.org/drive

You may have to email the guy for a Beta test version. It looks unbelievable and uses Augmentation over your camera to show you when and where to turn!!!
[Desire HD General] abrasive:
The pictures are the same, the one that's black is just tempered with. Compare the colors on the display and you'll get it (the wallpaper and the sun for example).
[Desire HD General] Golgo:
Yeah... those are renders, i.e. NOT proof that a black one actually exists.
[Desire HD General] Overloaded:
I have seen that picture but it is easy to photoshop it and make it look black..

I want to see a REAL picture of a black Desire HD :p ;)
[Desire HD General] vistagamer:
We all want to see a real black Desire HD...
[Desire HD General] craigspc:
Don't worry, Rixsta, I wasn't having a go at you. I just wanted to highlight the fact that Linux can (and does) suffer from virus attacks, albeit on a less frequent (and often less destructive) level.

Being conscientious about what you download and install on your phone should be enough in the majority of cases, but I fear that as phones become ever more 'computer like', we'll see more people attempting to exploit the opportunities that arise from that.
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
Actually, mine is not like either of them. the alluminium part is greyisch brown, and the plastic parts are black
[Desire HD General] abrasive:
And what about the corners on the front?
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Sorry if its a bit off topic but is anyone waiting for there desire hd t-mobile upgrade in the uk?? are they out of stock?
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
The front that is part of aluminium unibody is offcourse also greyisch brown (its darker brown than the original Desire)

The rest of the front is black.

It's just like the brown one in the picture, only the plastic parts in the back are mat black.
[Desire HD General] pizzaman79:
It's got nothing to do with that. The ceo of htc netherlands has tweeted that it's an issue of Google approval which is holding the DHD's back in most other countries.
[Desire HD General] combat goofwing:
seems htc are saying the screen is just LCD

http://www.facebook.com/htcuk/posts/161836427179180?il=0&notif_t=feed_comment_reply
[Desire HD General] 1902:
yes it supports the arabic font, but the letters are separated and not connected, so it's very hard and annoying to read a word.
[Desire HD General] braby:
I figured that all along...there has been too much shady business since they first said it will be SLCD...
[Desire HD General] abrasive:
I can't find it anywhere on his twitter... But if that's the case it would be interesting to know what the issue is and when it's supposed to be solved. Strange that the phone's out in the UK and NL if it's not approved by Google...