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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TL24:
Weird... it still doesn't work when i try to disable TTS:

I've tried both # pm disable com.android.tts and com.android.apps.tts

EDIT!

Nevermind, i looked at the name again it was actually just "android.tts" no "com.android.tts"
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] paulobrien:
Hah!

My next tutorial - how to fix Goggles so it actually updates properly. :P

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bogdan87:
thanks! worked like magic!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
Thanks Paul. Just removed my visionary.sh script that was doing this each reboot. This is much better ;).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] borodin1:
That's a great tut, thank you Paul for this.

One last question from me: If you reboot without root, will these changes stay? I'm not particularly convinced yet that I want to run Visionary on boot, so I want to check before getting into disabling packages.

Thanks again for your contributions.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DirectMatrix:
This makes me think that regardless of root access or permissions, the packages remain disabled which seems to mean that regardless of whether you run VISIONary or not to get temp root, the packages will remain disabled.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] havikx:
just bought g2...came from g1. the g1 had enough blotware on it when it dropped. amazonmp3 namely. i could not believe how much stuff the g2 comes loaded with and even told the sales guy i couldnt wait to root the thing to delete all the crap. lol.

he almost looked offended.

thank you opt. i was worried with the hastle of rooting the g2 that i would have to see amazon mp3 everyday til we got perma root.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] havikx:
rm google goggles

uninstall google goggles (having trouble typing that over and over)

redownload thru market?

something like that? i almost had a fit when it didnt update properly as soon as i walked outta the store.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Jaysn:
This is great, thanks! It would definitely be worth some beer money if anyone were able to make an app to read in all installed apps & uncheck the undesired ones.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] DirectMatrix:
Its a good idea, but it will have limited use once the device gets permanent root so the devs probably wouldn't be interested in putting the time in for something that will just end up being abandoned.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] paulobrien:
They will indeed.

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] paulobrien:
I'm tempted to make one... would you pay (say $1.99) for it? ;)

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Ready2Mosh:
I would.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xile6:
Already an app lije that its called store or lock something like that. I used it on my g1 to hide apps from lanucher.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mustafazr:
Worked like a charm, thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] borodin1:
I'd pay more. Not because I can't do it on my own but because I feel that devs need to be rewarded and I'm really bad about remembering to donate so this is a great way for me to pitch in few bucks (X2, my wife has a g2 as well).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mustafazr:
Voice icon won't go, even after repeated pm disable. Voice is dead though since I can't launch it, it FCs. Any ideas?

Edit: Reboot fixed it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] miles2912:
F'in sexy man. All the BS google/Amazon stuff is gone. Well.. at least hidden which is just fine.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RuncaProfundus:
VISIONary and disabling went very smoothly. Loving the run on boot. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bogdan87:
What's the app name for google skymap and news & weather
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RuncaProfundus:
com.google.android.stardroid = skymap

not sure about news & weather.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Jaysn:
I'd definitely pay $1.99, that would be handy. This process seems like what atrackdog uses to pull the app list too.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] borodin1:
News and weather is Geniewidget.apk if anyone is still wondering
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shambala001:
I disabled the following through terminal:

su
pm disable com.tmobile.selfhelp
pm disable com.google.android.maps.mytracks
pm disable com.google.android.carhome
pm disable com.google.android.apps.genie.geniewidget
pm disable com.google.android.apps.unveil
pm disable com.google.android.apps.listen
pm disable com.htc.web2goshortcut
pm disable com.amazon.mp3
pm disable com.photobucket.android
pm disable com.htc.android.htcsetupwizard
pm disable com.google.android.apps.finance
pm disable com.twitter.android
pm disable com.google.earth

All of the above worked just fine (I never updated amazon mp3) except that upon reboot Car Home was still in the launcher, so I went into Titanium Backup and saw there were 2 instances of Car Home, one frozen and one not, I clicked the unfrozen one and hit freeze. After another reboot its all still disabled including both Car Homes. I used the manual temp root during this process, thx for the great write up.

BTW, it disabled the following (same order as above):

T-Mobile app
My Tracks
Car Home
News and Weather
Google Goggles
Listen app
Web2go shortcut
Amazon mp3
Photo bucket
HTC Setup Wizard
Finance app
Twitter
Google Earth
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gilnino:
I would def buy an app that did this. Its amazing. No more photobucket. You are the man!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neejay:
wooooow, thanks a lot!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] luis86dr:
Is there a way to see all of the apps u have disabled in a list?

Sent from my HTC Vision G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rUsTyRuSs:
Once temp rooted you can use titanium backup to do the same thing. Go to the application under backup/restore, click the app you want to disable and click freeze. Undo by clicking un-freeze. I did pm disable and noticed that they were high lighting in titanium backup and freezing. Paul is the man!! (Persistant through reboot)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mac404:
After disabling several unused applications, I now have 215MB of free RAM on boot when using LauncherPro Plus (completely cached) with Facebook widget, Taskos widget, Pandora widget, a weather widget, Engadget widget, a calendar widget, google search widget, text message widget, power control widget, and some program/contact icons over 4 (out of 5 enabled) home screens. That is insane!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rhodes588:
Anyone reporting better battery life with bloatware disabled? If so, please elaborate. Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] clamman:
can someone make a video on how to do temp root and this fix for all the newbees out here that want to learn

thanks in advance
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ScottC:
Thanks so much for this.

T-Mobile really screwed with us when they put this much crapware on our phones. I mean, seriously - Photobucket? Same with the Google Apps, they just added every single one of them...

I don't get their logic - they have their own tab in the market app, the app-pack app and they STILL force you to deal with 10 apps you'll most likely never need.

Still, it could be worst - they could go all Verizon on us...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 21productionz:
lulz

10char
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
somebody already has - just searched youtube for "Tmobile G2 temp root" and it pulled up a vid on this very temp root method

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCgnZeqXoOo
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Noebody:
How is this done with T.B. I don't see any of my phones apps listed there, and I have T.B. pro
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rUsTyRuSs:
If your apps aren't listed click the problems? In the bottom right corner and then reload the application. That should fix it. I have the donate version as well.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Noebody:
Thanks a lot this solved the problem, can't believe I didn't think of it lol ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KidHuyDiet:
anyone knows the correct package name for google sky map / shopper / earth ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
when i used the "pm enable" command to re-enable an app, it came back with a message that said:

(!) killed with the app's name shown

so i tried it again on amazon.mp3 just to see what it'd do as the icon hadn't disappeared, and using that command, it removed the icon

??

if i want to re-enable an app, is there another command i can try?

and more importantly, HOW DO WE SHUT DOWN "GOOGLE MESSAGING SVC"

every time i check what's running, it seems that's in there
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shambala001:
In titanium backup if you click the app then click the name in the center of the pop up menu, it gives you the package name, or if you dont have it I can list them here
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shambala001:
You have to type the whole name, as in "com.amazon.mp3"
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KidHuyDiet:
oh ty for reply, after a careful look at the list and posting of people before me i saw what i needed.

thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
when i typed the command i did, just abbreviated for the posting

noticed when i just went and disabled "stardroid", that instead of coming back that it's status was now disabled, it came back with that same "killed" message

don't know what happened

went in and used it again, and still, using "pm disable" comes back now showing that the app was "killed"
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shambala001:
Make sure your in root, when you type "su" it should say it was given superuser permissions or something similar, after that "pm disable com.tmobile.selfhelp" for example, should say the state was changed to disabled, theres a fix mentioned earlier for amazon mp3 if it was updated
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] michagol2:
For those trying to get rid of amazon mp3 who already updated...go to market and find amazon mp3 and hit uninstall updates, then go into terminal and type pm disable com.amazon.mp3 and it should go away after launcher restart....just a hint
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ryaninc:
The Google Messaging Service isn't something that can be killed. It's the service used to keep your phone on contact with Google servers, and doesn't have anything to do with text messaging or anything like that. So yes, if you kill it, it will always come right back, since it's a system service that needs to stay running.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KidHuyDiet:
after 2 hours of messing with it, it worked great and very happy :). thanks so much to the Dev
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KShatzkes:
Works like a charm. Paul, as always, great work!

Maybe I'm blind, but does anyone know the package name for Google Latitude? Thanks in advance.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] paulobrien:
Latitude is built in to Maps.

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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mightyab:
This is so awesome plus on top of that root was so easy it was amazing. Thanks so much Paul will donate when it becomes available. But I do have a problem if someone can help me.

When I go to enable a app that I just disabled I get this

export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH

$ $ su

# pm enable com.photobucket.com

[1] Killed pm enable com.photobucket.com

#

But the app doesnt show back up after I restart the launcher, any clue what I did wrong?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KShatzkes:
Ah, that makes a lot of sense. So I am guessing then there is no way to get rid of that icon?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bsnelson:
Not all of the apps actually have persistent processes running in the background. For example, Amazon MP3 has such a process, but CarHome doesn't. So, unless it's just that the presence of the icons offends you terribly, some of the apps don't buy you much by disabling them. I'll be focusing on the ones that actually take up memory.

Brad
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mac404:
If you use LauncherPro, you can hide icons by going to Preferences -> General Settings ->Hidden Apps.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] acis:
When using Visionary and trying to gain su through adb shell I get permission denied. I have root access on the phone it self but adb can't get it. Any help?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KidHuyDiet:
you type in the wrong info

its com.photobucket.android not com.photobucket.com
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rakjer:
Here too...

I have the same problem. I can use the terminal emulator to do all this stuff(very tedious), but when I adb shell, I get permission denied.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] miles2912:
Did you authorize ADB from the Superuser app? It should pop up the first time you type in su from ADB.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] acis:
I did now! Thanks. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] darkjuan:
Is there a complete list of what package disables which application? Or a list of the original "Bloatware" apps that came with the phone? I don't want to disable an app that is actually needed.

Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] evojoey:
you need to install connect bot on the phone ...available via the market
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] darkjuan:
ok. Looking back at what was already posted it looks like most of the "bloatware" has been covered. Is there stuff I SHOULDN'T disable?

for example:

package:com.android.defcontainer

package:jackpal.androidterm

package:com.android.musicvis

package:com.htc.fieldtest

package:com.google.android.latinimetutorial

package:com.android.vending.updater

package:com.ulocate

package:com.android.inputmethod.latin

package:com.google.android.partnersetup

package:com.google.android.feedback

package:com.htc.htcMessageUploader

package:com.cooliris.media

package:com.android.stk

package:com.quoord.tapatalkxda.activity

package:com.google.zxing.client.android

Just wondering what these were or what they do.

Thanks again!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Turbo Brian:
even though i have a nexus one, ive never done any rooting or modding with it. just used it. so, i was pleasantly happy to discover that monkeying around with android is pretty simple and fun. not only did i get my g2 temp rooted and figured out the whole superuser and adp stuff, but i got rid of the bloatware on my g2. this forum is great. thanks!!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Shambala001:
Just search xda or goggle if you really want to know, but imo just leave them alone, I only know a few from a glance and its stuff best left alone
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] darkjuan:
That's what I figured. I'll check google.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
here's a link to an index identifying them

http://www.market4android.com/stock-android-2-1-apps-list
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] konoplya:
noob question: besides disabling the stock junk (which is great), what other things can you do with rooted G2? thnx!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
for now, installing wifi tethering and wifi hotspot

but as soon as full root is achieved, installing custom roms
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kingdork76:
Probably the wrong place.

I have gotten VISIONary to run successfully a few times, but now every time I try to get it to run, it just spins for upwards of 10 minutes. I'd really like to disable some of the packages and run the tethering, but I just can't get it to work right now. Any suggestions?

Update: Got it to run on boot after about 4 re-boots. Anything I should look for?

P.S. Android noob, just converted fully from the winmo camp
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KShatzkes:
From what Paul was telling us, the process in which VISIONary takes to root the phone is very time crucial, so if you have a lot of apps which start at boot, it can cause problems for it. If you do have a lot of apps, its probably best just to manually root on startup, as opposed to having it auto-run at bootup.

I had the same problem as you described, but ever since r8 was released, I haven't had a problem rooting at bootup. Make sure you have the latest release!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vikinglax:
Sorry fellas I'm kinda a noob when it comes to this.

DL'd the emulator, but i cannot get the # prompt to come up when i type 'su'. am I doing something wrong? It just says SU: permission denied.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KShatzkes:
I'm guessing you aren't rooted. Install VISIONary from the Android Market.

You need to be rooted in order to perform this.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vikinglax:
definitely rooted. installed visionary and currently shows I am a superuser.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KShatzkes:
Hmm... then I am not sure. Someone with more experience is going to have to help you then. Sorry.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vikinglax:
hopefully Paul will chime in if he has some time. I don't see myself doing anything wrong. Open up the terminal emulator:

export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH

$ $

then i type 'su' right after that second $ sign

and it returns:

su: permission denied

dunno what is going on
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Xerott:
I was having the same issue. I have root on my phone, in fact I disabled all the stock apps via my phone.

But trying to do with through adb I get the permission denied. It's not that bad doing it through your phone. Helps you learn the keyboard layout :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mgshute:
Allow it through super user...

mine is called

"Unknown 2000"

Requested UID root (0)

Command /system/bin/sh

status allow
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] swags:
You need to allow adb root access on your phone by pressing allow on the popup that will appear on the phone. You probably haven't noticed it because the screen is sleeping while you try to do it through the adb shell.

Edit: Which, of course, is basically what mgshute said. I need to remember to refresh before replying to a thread I opened an hour ago.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] phazedplasma:
A+ thread,

As a first time android user, this was extremely helpful, I no longer fear the root!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chiapat:
I had the same problem...until i realized that I had to "allow" Super user access which popped up on the G2 when I typed in 'su' on ADB. After I did that, adb allowed su access at the prompt.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Hosermage:
weather and news app

One thing I noticed when I disabled the weather and news app was that my dock clock (clock + weather) no longer display the weather. I guess it's needed for dock display. So I turned it back on and removed all the news sources. FYI, if you like to leave your phone in the dock clock next to your bedside.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tankmorph:
Sounds like you went one step too far trying to disable the stock news and weather app. Unless you have the widget or desk clock running, it does nothing anyway.

I recommend concentrating on apps you see running or running as services that you just don't use. (like Amazon MP3 perhaps?)

If you only want to hide the "news & weather" icon from the app drawer, some of the 3rd party launchers have that ability.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Dansfloyd:
Is it safe to disable the gmail app?

G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hawaiian.monzta:
You can delete stock apps all together if you want. Just download titanium backup and you can delete apps like amazon or web2go. Or you can back them up, transfer them to the sd card, delete the app then restore it if you want it back. Or you can buy the pro version and instead of deleting the stock app you can just freeze them which lets you disable them and hide them
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
for what it's worth, i couldn't get or figure SDK out (total noob), so i downloaded "Connectbot" from the market and did it on my phone

like Paul O'brien said, if you're sadistic (or computer challanged like i am), as the fonts are frigging tiny - i almost pulled out a magnifying glass to read the damn text

but it did make it easier or simpler to get superuser access
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Turbo Brian:
heh, i know how you feel. i get the feeling that most people here assume if you're visiting this forum you know what you're doing. unfortunately for me, thats not the case. while i do have a nexus one, i never rooted it or did any sort of hacking on it. i just used it as a really great smartphone. this disabling of the stock bloatware and rooting and all that i did to my g2 the other day was my first step and it took a bunch of searching here and mainly googling to find all the pieces. first was the sdk. i found a vid tutorial but i think it was a bit outdated. i managed to get the sdk installed then it took me a bit to get the usb drivers figured out. once i updated the sdk packages i had drivers but not the right ones. more googling found the hack i needed to do to the .inf so windows would install adb drivers for the g2. then the whole super user thing. i couldnt get su until i eventually figured out that there is another program to install on the phone called superuser that gives permission for me su via adb. it was an exercise in frustration and about an hour of my time but i figured it out and now im set.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
either visionary or connectbot (old age and CRS ie Can't Remember S--t) automatically installed superuser for me

otherwise i'd still be scratching the back of my head
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Turbo Brian:
mustve been connectbot because visonary doesnt install it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Dansfloyd:
You can't delete stock application from the G2 (yet), because after a reboot, they will just reinstall themselves... that's the whole point of this thread... to DISABLE the app, rather then remove it.

I guess if you have removed the Gmail app and everything was fine, then thats basically the same thing. SO, has anyone tried removing/disabling the Gmail app and/or News and Weather app without any bad repercussions?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] s30zgt:
I disabled the news and weather app to no ill effect. the gmail one seems to be (at least to me) a bit more intergrated with the system and i would be careful about disabling that one.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xtcislove:
U can delete Gmail App ! Just be sure to have one instead!

If i delete my Gmail App (S-OFF Desire) it only force close once and i dont get emails anymore :D No Errors ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
i disabled news & weather couple days ago as well, no issues yet
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] konoplya:
yeah i feel you bro. i'm still trying to figure out how to use adb.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] konoplya:
since i have no clue how to use adb yet, im trying to use ConnectBot, but its asking me to connect to a host to open a SSH.. can someone help out? thank you!

EDIT: holy crap, i figured it out!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
just select "local" for host then on the name, i just tap on the box with "nickname" in it, then keyboard pops up, and i leave "nickname" in there and hit done

once connectbot opens, punch in "su" then enter and it should return with "access granted"

if it comes back with access denied, go make sure visionary has been run and given you root
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] konoplya:
ooh i see.. i was selecting the SSH.. thanks for the tip. i actually figured out adb and used it to disable the apps i didnt want.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
lol - i never did get sdk & adb figured out

connectbot is much easier and quicker - you just need a magnifying glass to read that #2 font size
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] konoplya:
you can actually use the volume up/down to increase the font size :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] larryccf:
insert sound of smacking self on back of head - tks you saved an old fart's eyesight