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[G2 and Desire Z General] Superfrag:
Both are Snapdragon SoC (G2 and N1), and both have Scorpion CPU's.. newer one is on a 45nm die while older is on a 65nm (lesser heat emission, lower consumption of power as a result longer battery life on the G2 thanks to the 45nm die).

CPU architecture wise there is not much difference.. the application processing however has been tweaked to perform better overall(thanks to the 45nm die I believe) and obviously as you can see the GPU, Adreno 205 thrashes the older Adreno 200..

Also the newer SoC supports more video codecs(mainly DivX actually) as well. ((MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6) vs (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6).
[G2 and Desire Z General] carlitozway57:
I don't know if I came across as bashing the phone. Maybe it was when I said I still prefer it over a Nexus one?

Regardless, my point wouldn't be "put to rest." For now, the CPU on the Nexus One outperforms the G2 on a benchmark. That is what I was addressing, nothing more.

My personal experience matches what you've said exactly. Barely a hiccup running the phone and excellent battery life (relatively speaking at least). Like I said, the only thing I'm addressing is people using benchmarks which include the GPU in the score to say that the G2 processor is faster at 800mhz than the N1 at 1ghz.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Is there anything like Adobe Flash benchmark or test page? G2 is supposed to hardware accelerate Flash.
[G2 and Desire Z General] scottmog:
G2 is pure sex compared to my last phone, motorola cliq hahah
[G2 and Desire Z General] student.driver:
This is particularly interesting, as the phone seems to load and scroll webpages faster than my Nexus One did with Enom's ROM. Well, the G2 is faster in everything, basically. Not by a lot, but enough to be noticeable.
[G2 and Desire Z General] SuperFly03:
What is interesting is the obnoxiously higher IO score in the G2 compared to the N1.

I wonder what is entailed in an IO test on a phone...
[G2 and Desire Z General] reddragon72:
here is some light reading, and chart lookin....

http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/

But jsut remember that the Galaxy class is still stuck on 2.1 so we are missing some updated drivers and JIT and yes that does make a difference.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Superfrag:
Oh I forgot.

Better IO scores I believe is thanks to the fact that HTC decided to to with ext3 partition for its OS, thus having faster read/writes(I'm not sure about this.. I think its thanks to the ext3 partition)

Also yeah, like I said, the CPU architecture is similar, (very similar actually), just the overall application processing is better due to tweaks, and one guy mentioned hardware flash acceleration which I forgot to mention, and obviously the GPU. Basically its a very well refined package of the Snapdragons that were on the N1/Desire.

Next year's 3rd Gen Snapdragons will be dual core Scorpion CPU's, even better tweaking and optimization, and HUGE gpu improvement.

Qualcomm says that Adreno 220 is 4-5 times faster than Adreno 205.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Superfrag:
Yup, at stock speeds the Nexus One's CPU is faster simply due to clock speed(since they have similar architecture). BUT, thanks to the overall package, tweaking and optimization, and a better GPU, the new 2nd gen Snapdragons are extremely well refined and thus the phone runs MUCH smoother. That's why you see Linpack scores of the G2 and N1 are very similar.
[G2 and Desire Z General] o>c:
agreed

my G2 scores 1675 in quadrant:D

smoothness comparable to iphone, but just running at 245mhz!:eek:

many people got scared of for the 800mhz mark

but I would proudly say they have underestimated that babe

running at 800mhz brings satisfactory battery stamina as well
[G2 and Desire Z General] TL24:
Tell me about it, it's the smoothest Android phone out there and fastest too I might add.

Once we root and O/C this baby it'll fly! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Fuskand:
Think of the difference between the N1 QSD8250 vs the G2 MSM7230 as a Core 2 Duo E6700 vs Core 2 Duo E7200 for the most part. One is older, supports slightly less instructions, but the overall architecture is the same. They just refined it a bit when they made the switch to 45nm is all.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Androidfreakz:
I think the G2 cpu after using almost every snapdragon phone over the few months including my old nexus 1 this 800mhz cpu reminds me of the intel centrino cpus although they lower clock rates the where fast cpus from what I see and read the G2 as a package is the fastest phone on the martket. The cpu has been optimise and after going through many androids phones this one is by far the smoothest and fastest of them all in my opinion.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mejorguille:
This is the highest I've been able to get it to
[G2 and Desire Z General] [hfm]:
I haven't done any benchmarking but I can definitively say the G2 is far and away snappier and seems to run much smoother than the N1. It's the first time an android phone has seemed to just flow and not get in the way of itself. Granted I stopped using cooked roms when I ditched winmo, so I can't speak for CM6.
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijoubu:
Of course the absolute correct statement would be chipset vs chipset, not processor vs processor, but thats all semantics. You cannot compare processors vs processors when it comes to mobile devices. These are all SOCs. You cannot seperate them.

And the fact is, the G2 as a whole has better performance than the N1 as a whole. The reason why people at the first place keep harping on the fact that G2 is faster than N1 is just to make a point that being 800mhz does not mean that the phone as a whole is slower than the N1, and thus less qualified for a Gingerbread upgrade than the N1 (which in turn proves that the so called rumour of a 1Ghz requirement for Gingerbread is not logical). How can one say that just because N1 has 1Ghz proc, and the G2 has 800mhz proc, the G2 is not as qualified as the N1 to get Gingerbread (again, assuming the 1Ghz requirement) when as a whole phone its faster than the N1. So we can conclude that the 1Ghz requirement is just bull****, and that the G2 is not handicapped for having a 800mhz proc.

Sorry did i confused you? I think i confused myself :P
[G2 and Desire Z General] Droidz:
I was able to get it 1 point higher lmao
[G2 and Desire Z General] elracing21:
Some of you keep thinking the G2 has a snapdragon processor in it. It's a scorpion processor not a 2nd gen snapdragon.
[G2 and Desire Z General] HamNCheese:
Both are correct (sort of). You have your parts mixed up.

Snapdragon refers to the platform (or SoC)

Scorpion refers to one component of the SoC (the CPU)

G2 has a second generation snapdragon - meaning the whole system has been moved to 45nm. It also has a much better Adreno 205 GPU core, which explains how CPU-only tasks win on the Nexus (at 1ghz), and GPU oriented tasks show the G2 and Vibrant pulling way ahead.

So, in a nutshell... It's a second generation, 800mhz, 45nm Snapdragon with a Scorpion CPU core.
[G2 and Desire Z General] elracing21:
This its confusing lol. I guess I stand corrected.

Posted on my T-mobile G(spot)2 xD
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Have you seen benchmark results of G2 running at 1.42GHz stable? Its about 2200. Setcpu tool does it. This is insanely fast...
[G2 and Desire Z General] cbmm:
what are you guys doing to get this thing over 1600?
[G2 and Desire Z General] jsc619:
here a comparison with the G2 OC to 1.42
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dyonas:
What benchmark are you running here?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dyonas:
I found out it's Quadrant Advanced. For comparison I ran it through my Motorola Milestone with G.O.T.'s FroYo build. I know this isn't a Motorola forum so I won't post the results, I got what I wanted :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] GrandMstrBud:
That's what I'd like to know also. I tried Linpack but I don't get the nice gui type results showing.
[G2 and Desire Z General] o>c:
I got a question

before we get our hands on a milestone 2 and make an epic showdown

will a droid 2 do a fair comparison?

they seem to be the same except the difference in supported network
[G2 and Desire Z General] mejorguille:
Here's my old one (768 Mhz) compared to my OC (1.4 Ghz). Both are with stock roms on performance. Might be willing to OC some more later on but got some things to do for now. This phone is amazing. Some of the scores almost doubled while others were 1.5x.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddgarcia05:
For the people asking how take a look in the development section. You'll see the overclocking thread there. I got a how to video in my sig and there are several well written step by step how to's on there too. Take a look at page 3 for the easiest way to do it.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] C64c:
Hey to all!

I'm interested in the streak with regards to what the Apps look like. I'm a Nexus One owner and I played with a Dell Streak in an O2 shop.

The demo steak only had one game on it, Paper Toss. Now the app didn't display on the full length of the 5" screen. It was squashed.

I'm keen to know if there is a way to make the app, for example Paper Toss, Stretch to the full length of the screen. Or is this down to the Developer adjusting the app itself?

Apps I currently use on my N1 that i'd like to know if you use them on your Streak and what do they look like?

They are:

Facebook

Twitter

Fruit Ninja

Dolphin Browser HD

ebay

Dictionary.com

eBuddy

Egg Timer Pro

GTasks

LockBot Pro

London City (Tube Map)

London Tube Status

Nose Candy

Notepad

Pac-Man

Paper Toss

Photoshop Express

Power Manager

Quick App Clean Cache

RockPlayer

Set CPU

Shazam

Shootme

Travel Check

UK Lotto

WeatherBug Elite

WikiDroid

XDA

Zedge

And any other apps for that matter? My post may be a bit overkill.

Dean.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] checkbox111:
XDA doesn't display properly, keeps showing lots of adverts, very annoying or what ;)
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] C64c:
Have XDA given an explanation as to why the app now has ads??

Poor show on there part.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] grizlore:
Paper Toss looks great... an update some weeks ago fixed the screen size issue
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] BrokenPixel:
First, there is an "adFree" app on the market to remove adverts YOU MUST BE ROOTED tho.

Now apps n games. (I use LCD density of 120, default is 160)

default facebook app runs nice on streak running beta froyo 2.2, on 2.1 ran nice and never tried with 1.6.

Fruit Ninja runs full screen and it is pretty accurate if you are the ninja that swipes the finger side to side like there is no surface to rub on.

Dolphin browser HD wont work on 1.6, on 2.1 worked flawless and same goes for 2.2

ebay app - I use PKT auctions I like it better and works full screen.

Rockplayer works fine on 2.1 only thing is when you run full screen it is a little bit pixelated. Haven't tried 2.2 but will probably be the same.

those are the ones I've use in the list.

You can run all apps on full screen "the way it should" by changing the LCD density to something like 180 or 200 that way you will use same dpi as Nexus for example altho this will make your icons/buttons ultra big and you will feel like a midget using a galaxy tab as phone.

Hope it helps.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] lufc:
The same reason we have adds on the site REVENUE

we need all the money we can get to keep it the best mobile site on the net
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] C64c:
Then can we have the option to buy the app with no ads?
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] checkbox111:
Judging by the market these days, that app would itself contain adds :rolleyes:
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] Laaf2005:
Can someone please explain how to change the dpi on a dell streak? Ive searched and couldnt find an explanation. I read to change the build.prop, but I dont see lcd density anywhere in the file. The free app on the market didnt work either. I am on android 2.1
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] PPCApache:
Download LCD Density Changer via market place, default is 160, increase in lots of 20, I have tried this on my Streak both 180 & 200 looked great but when trying to use Aldiko ebook reader pages blend into each other.

Here are the apps I have been using that look great on the Streak running 2.2.

Tweetdeck

Pocket Informant (Beta)

Glympse

Sygic Mobile Maps

Facebook

Shazam

Moxier Exchange email

RockPlayer

LauncherPro Plus

Winamp

Bump

Angry birds (looks great)

Assassin's Creed

Lets's Golf

Mini Gore

Fruit Ninja (very addictive)

Hero of Sparta

Barcode Scanner

Engadget

eFile

ES File Explorer

Aldiko Premium

Documents To Go

Extended Controls

Opera Mobile Beta 10.1

Root Explorer

Well thats most of the Apps I use.

Cheers

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[G1 Android Development] nickislauw:
Help me please!!!

i just unrooted my htc magic vodafone 32b and installed the official mytouch build from this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=547133

but after i installed i saw that it was android 1.5!!!

so i dug into settings and checked for systemupdates. but it says im up to date!!:(:(:(:( how do i get the mytouch android 1.6 now?

i live in the netherlands and has a vodafone magic 32B.

please help me!

EDIT: okay i have tmobile official android 1.6 update.

but now when i try to search for system updates it immediatly displays im up to date.

i think it wont search for updates because it displays INSTANT im up to date.

with and without a data connection it says im up to date.

is this normal? or should it says 'searching for update' or something like that instant of im up to date??

Thanks
[G1 Android Development] roalex:
ITs prolly not very hard, but you can wait a bit since it seams that mytouch 3g gets a froyo official update tomorrow.
[G1 Android Development] TeeJay3800:
That only applies to the T-Mobile myTouch 3G, not the Vodafone HTC Magic.
[G1 Android Development] nickislauw:
But i got the tmobile official rom installed on it..
[G1 Android Development] roalex:
Well im pretty sure it will apply even to my G1 ;)

p.s with a bit of work
[G1 Android Development] TeeJay3800:
It seems to me that what ROM you have installed is not what matters. What matters is who your carrier is. It's T-Mobile that is pushing out this update, and since you aren't a T-Mobile subscriber, your phone won't receive the update.
[G1 Android Development] roalex:
yea so he will download a fixed update already rooted, just give it a few days...
[G1 Android Development] nickislauw:
but i installed the OFFICIAL TMOBILE ROM (android 1.6) :)

+ i now got a vodafone sim card in it, but at home i have a tmobile sim card.

so would it work if i put tmobile sim in it ??

but probably tmobile wont look up to your simcard, only to the tmobile rom, wich i just got installed.
[G1 Android Development] TeeJay3800:
But as he mentioned in his OP, he's specifically looking for the OTA update.

The update is a service provided by T-Mobile to T-Mobile customers that have the T-Mobile branded myTouch 3G phones. It seems to me that unless you have a T-Mobile account and a T-Mobile branded myTouch, your phone will not receive the update (I'm sure they can tell what phone you have, regardless of what ROM is installed). Best of luck to you though!
[G1 Android Development] roalex:
Well i guess he will have to adapt :)
[G1 Android Development] nickislauw:
they can never detect my hardware,, they just roll it out via the official tmobile ROM, wich i just got installed..

so i think we just get the update now.
[G1 Android Development] roalex:
You will then probably loose the root, recovery etc.
[G1 Android Development] nickislauw:
lol i have already lost everything cause i just updated to official tmobile rom
[G1 Android Development] roalex:
Hm im pretty sure you can root this one ;)
[G1 Android Development] nickislauw:
but i dont want to.

i just updated to the official tmo because i thought i would get the OTA froyo.

but if i havent any data connection like wifi or data and check for system updates it says that im up too date:(

and when i check with wifi or data then it says im up to date too:P

so little weird
[G1 Android Development] billquinn1:
It is not instant. The last time I had to unroot to send a phone back ( bad camera) it took about 2 days for the phone to see an update available. Just be patient. I do doubt you will get the OTA froyo where you are but here on XDA some one will have it posted shortly after it pushes.
[G1 Android Development] nickislauw:
okay so it will just connect automaticelly to the internet in of these days and gives a notification? or do i have to manually go somewhere??

:o
[G1 Android Development] billquinn1:
You will wake up one morning and you will have a notification. I think it has to do it through 3g or edge, I don't think it will download through wifi but I'm not sure about that.
[G1 Android Development] nickislauw:
But i got a vodafone sim card in it.

does that matter??

or does it have to be tmobile ?
[G1 Android Development] nickeedoo:
I have ATT, and with the stock 1.0 android, i got all the ota updates. it was over edge and it was freakin slow, but i got them all. you don't have to have tmobile to get ota updates, just the rom.
[G1 Android Development] nickislauw:
oke thanks man!

you have android 1.0 lol?

uve got g1 or mytouch ?
[Dash 3G, Snap General] neocorpse:
I'll keep this relatively short so's not to bore anyone...lol.

I have a T-Mobile Dash 3G with WinMo 6.5 standard. The question I have is more towards the MyFave 5 service I have. If I flash a cooked rom....say the 3vo for Maple(Dash3G) will it remove that service from my phone? I know it won't actually remove the service itself because it's part of my plan, but will it remove the actual software the service uses?

I'm not sure why, (prolly from when I had my RAZR V3 without Fave 5 software), but I actually like it on my phone. I use both the service and software quite often so I'd really hate to lose it.

Lastly I noticed the rom comes with software like Resco Explorer and such, Is this something I will have to pay for later on or is it the full app? I have a copy of Resco's full app so I'm not too worried about it but it's something I'm curious about. Anyways, thank you guys!!
[Dash 3G, Snap General] orb3000:
When flashing a ROM all the software included and data will be erased, even if you still having the service with your provider.

But on my experience with this great device or any other hTC, is that cooked ROM´s are always much better and faster than stock, and I´m sure you will be able to find the software you need in XDA:cool:

And don´t worry about resco it is included on ookba fantastic ROM amongst many other great features that stock don´t come with...
[Dash 3G, Snap General] neocorpse:
awesome orb thank you for the info. Yeah I went ahead and went with 3vo.3.00.401010 and although it works well, I found some significant bugs. MyFaves ctrl panel page is listing all my faves contacts as "undefined" with both numbers and names and the icons come up white. The circular style menu doesn't work at all. I used a CHome work around but other stuff is refusing to work as well; such as the HTCWeather service. The titanium weather that uses accuweather works but you have to have wifi enabled in order for it to update. HTCWeather's you didn't need to do that. Also for some reason when I try to add a city it won't actually add it in. The panel simply displays "add city" no matter how many times I add one.

Granted, by comparrison to the rest of the rom's significant improvements these are minor, but I also kinda feel like I have half of a phone now.

I'd actually mention the bugs in the rom thread but I've noticed that people don't really like to reply too much around here.

I'm by no means ungrateful at all, and I love the 3vo rom which is why I continue to use it despite the small issues. I'm wondering if it might be a radio version conflict for MyFaves but I'm not nearly experienced enough to even begin to look into it. It's one of those little nagging things.....lol.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiesuree:
Ok I know there are several several threads to this problem. I've searched in and out but still am just sitting and staring at the symbol getting crazier by the minute.

I did a foolish foolish thing by flashing the 3 button SPL in the wrong way.. I kept the re-partition button ticked and kaboom this problem arised.. and the PC does not even recognize the phone.

I'd be grateful if someone helps me or by chance posts something which I've not tried yet! and Nope I wont do the heating trick.. :(

For the info.., my recovery/any modes are not working from phone itself only used to work from the PC using adb. Now that too doesnt work! :(

Thanks a lot for taking time to read and answer!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stephengoo:
Sadly I have to say that your phone was properly bricked since it has no download mode, you cannot use Odin to reflash other firmware.

Your situation is the same as mine, 3 weeks ago, I tried to fix 3 buttons combo to enable recovery/download mode but it was failed and my phone could not start up.

Now there is only one solution to rescue your bricked phone, that is RIFF JTAG box. My phone was rescued successfully by that box.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiesuree:
Thanks Stephen for your reply.. Other replies please...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stephengoo:
You have to know that if the phone can enter download mode by pressing 3 buttons combo then you can re-flash it with another firmware by using Odin, otherwise you cannot do anything to make it boot up because its boot area had been corrupted.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiesuree:
My phone is under warranty.. so can Samsung service centre guys do something about it?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
yes, you can take it back to samsung for repairs

or you can flash it back yourself using Odin
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiesuree:
@Allgamer.. :( I've tried everything I could bro.. used Odin 4.3, Odinepic1.3 but no use... and my 3 button technique is disabled in my phone :( Damn why does it have to happen to me when am outta my city :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
did you try with the usb cable plugged in?

or the battery pop in when the 3 buttons are held

or the heat trick with the hair dryer?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiesuree:
Yeah tried with cable plugged in and also the battery pop in..

I dont have a hair dryer with me at the moment. I mean not that I cannot borrow one, but am a bit scared to try it since it might affect the life of my phone..

Thanks for helping Allgamer bro! Appreciate it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiesuree:
Hmm anyone found a way to get into download mode with 3 button mode disabled yet?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiesuree:
Finally gave my phone to the service center :( Hope they treat it well.. and hope they enable the 3 button modes ...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiesuree:
Hmm finally got my beast back from the service centre. And guess what they have enabled the 3 button mode for me :) yippee
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stephengoo:
Did they disassemble your phone? And how about the warranty?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiesuree:
Yeah they had to replace a board they said... Some pba board the receipt says.. Don't know what so ever that means

Forgot to mention.. Since it was under warranty I wasn't charged a single penny :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stephengoo:
Dont know why they had to replace the board, the problem does not concern with hardware, it's just a software issue, exactly is the boot loader was corrupted so the store that I send my phone to took only $15.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aussiesuree:
Yeah but the thing is I did some weird things by mistake like keeping the repartition box checked while flashing etc... So might be that might have blown something off...

Anyway am happy to have my phone back with the recovery and download modes :)) Doesnt matter what they changed as long as my phone keeps me busy :)