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[EVO 4G Accessories] sanjsrik:
This is the same price as on the powermat website and you don't have to pay tax if you buy directly or shipping if you choose ground UPS. Wouldn't buying from best buy mean you're paying tax?

I'd just put it on my amex and if anything happened, they'd cover it.

They don't seem to sell it via the BestBuy website, can't even find it there.

Plus, doesn't Best Buy charge a restocking fee. The powermat folks seem to give a full refund in 30 days. Good way to try it out and see if it's worthwhile without the restocking fee.

i have one question about using a powermat itself. IF you plug this into the powermat or lay it down on the strip, whatever, how do you sync with your PC? You still have to hardwire to your desktop don't you? Unless you're always using Google services?
[EVO 4G Accessories] DomSim:
there is no restocking fee for accessories. where did you hear that?
[EVO 4G Accessories] sanjsrik:
Nope, you're right. No restocking fee implictly quoted in their main refund/return policy. Still have to pay tax though.

And, how do you sync the device with your desktop? If you're running bluetooth all the time, it will eat your battery, if you have to hardwire in, kind of makes the powermat irrelevant.
[EVO 4G Accessories] radar5:
I saw this the other day too when wandering the mobile department. I didn't have a chance to read too carefully into it, but just want to confirm it is still safe to charge via the regular ac adapter/car charger too, right?
[EVO 4G Accessories] trentlythp:
Anyone know if the cover would work with a touchstone charger? I guess I'm just too lazy to do the touchstone mod myself and it seems like it might work. Sorry for the dumb question :)

Sent from my Sprint HTC EVO
[EVO 4G Accessories] chandlerw88:
With the power mat, does it come with a battery and if so whats the mah?
[EVO 4G Accessories] Cordy:
Yes it is still safe to plug in a normal ac or car charger.

No the only thing you are replacing is the battery cover which is used with the mat.

Essentially the battery cover has the magnet and induction charging built into it. That is why there is the little connector on the bottom. Essentially it used the induction cover as the charger to charge the batter through the normal usb connection. Hope this clears up all the confusion and mystery surrounding this. I picked one up myself and I do like it. I only use the leather pouch from HTC which was able to stretch to fit the extra peice on the bottom.
[EVO 4G Accessories] nabbed:
New review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMsOp0EI6YA .

The reviewer says the the new powermat battery door is flush with the camera lens [protector glass].

If this was true, this battery door is going to make the camera lens even more prone to scratching.
[EVO 4G Accessories] awenthol:
Don't see why you're all crying about the camera "lens"...if it's that big of a deal, put a bulky, useless cover over the damn thing. Otherwise, quit your complaining (or stop being so abusive).

Picked one up yesterday (actually two, but that's another story). LOVE LOVE LOVE that the back door is only slightly thicker..can't even notice it. The "dongle" sticking out is no biggie for me and actually, kind of a nice addition...easier to find "up" and easier to hold the phone in landscape.

It charges about the same speed as my car charger...don't know what the amperage is on it, but it IS slower than my wall outlet.

Anyway, rather than waiting for shipping (best buy didn't have any single mats) I ended up buying another EVO set (door and pad) so I can leave one at work. Looks like I'll be able to pull the setup off the door and stick it on my Overdrive, though :D
[EVO 4G Accessories] Mayonesa:
Does anyone know if it will still charge if using a case like seidio active?

I don't think the bottom part will be a problem and it should still work with the holster.

Anyone tried it?
[EVO 4G Accessories] awenthol:
I haven't tried with a case but I can hold the phone off the pad a ways and it will still charge...
[EVO 4G Accessories] aronslusa:
I picked up my Powermat this past Sunday and I LOVE IT!

I tried my nice cheap-ie holster from eBay ($3.50), naked, phone faces outward. With the powermat backing installed it DOES NOT fit. It is slightly thicker due to the magnet in the base.

My main motivation for the purchase was obviously to use it wirelessly, which is just amazing (loved it on the Pre, but I think I like powermat better... now if they could just make it available for the PS3 controllers lol), the ulterior motive was to get it so that the camera lens was not touching any flat surface I put it on..... and it doesn't! granted it's only like one millimeter, but still thats more than enough assurance for me!

Seconded... The little dongle is supported by my little finger just a tad which makes it just a tad easier to hold in landscape.

I thought that was going to be a major no-go for me, but I like it. And it's easy enough to unplug it to allow it to be plugged into the computer.

I don't know if its because of the rom I'm using (airborne 3.1), or because of how the powermat is alleged to charge, but I'm getting A TON better battery life since I installed both airborne 3.1 and the powermat.
[EVO 4G Accessories] tijacob:
I have tried this and was not happy with the way the case was stretched at the bottom. If anyone wants to see pictures I can try to accommodate and snag some. Also tried out a Otterbox case (no go) and Seidio hip case (tight fit). Some may accept the power bridging powermat has decided to use but I plan to return it for now. I really wish powermat would have designed internal cabling instead. If they ever offer that revision I am down!
[EVO 4G Accessories] awenthol:
I don't see that happening unless they go straight to the batt, and then they would need a regulator built into the system...

However, I am surprised at how unnecessarily bulky that LITTLE connector is.
[EVO 4G Accessories] dablackface:
thanks gonna check it out
[EVO 4G Accessories] thedguy:
I had a cheap rubber casing on mine, but it was too thick for the charger to work.

If I were to run a case I'd probably buy the case, shave the inside a bit, and do the touchstone mod. The magnet would sit on the inside of the casing, but outside the factory back plate.
[EVO 4G Accessories] John Kotches:
I'm giving up on powermat, the connector doesn't hold up... My second back just stopped charging last night.

Id been doing a lot of swapping for synching across data and it just isn't holding up. They need to get a new solution that doesn't have rge fragile dongle wire

Swyped on my PC36100 using tapatalk!
[EVO 4G Accessories] cyberone3:
i was wounding why they didn't just make a snap on dongle the has a pass through for the usb and hdmi

so something like the duracell mygrid but with a a somewhat wider but slimmer foot print that would feet into the cut out of a case

best would be an induction back cover like the palm pre
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walhallyus:
Hi

I am not sure if there is someone who can help me but here is my problem. I have tried to upgrade my Galaxy S to froyo via Odin without the 3 buttons combo available(Now I know this is stupid:| ). I've used adb to enter the download mode and while Odin tried to install the upgrade I got a green freeze screen on my phone and Odin has freeze too. After rebooting the phone it always stuck in the recovery mode and displays the following error:

E:/Can't mount/dev/block/stl11

Right now I can only connect to my phone trough adb console and Odin but only in recovery mode. When I run the "adb reboot download" command the phone only reboot in recovery mode, not in download mode.

Is there something I can do to bring my phone in download mode?

Any help on this issue will be much appreciated

Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z General] nickexel:
Hi

I am considering the Desire Z and was interested if one will be able to watch DVB-H TV on it. I know that the MSM7230 chipset supports it, but it does not appear anywhere in the DZ specs.

I am assuming that Qualcomm supports it, but HTC have not licensed this module? Could there be any custom ROMs in the future that might add the necessary drivers?
[G2 and Desire Z General] santimaster2000:
Bump !!!

This would be ******* awesome, in theory, if it's there, you can enable it, but, you will need a hack, and some kind of driver. Just guessing, because till now, nobody have hack nothing more than a FM Radio or a Bluetooth module, but, let the developers own one first, then, when 2 months have pass, we have root, CM 6 or 7, audio hack, OC, and some other super user tricks, then, just then, start thinking seriously about this topic.

Remember, first, we need root.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
It is very unlikely anything like this happen. Yes, the chip maybe supports it - but without the supporting equipment on the board, without the antenna, it's useless. So you can stop thinking about it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
MSM7230 supports it and apart the surely missing antenna you don't even know if the required pins are soldered on the board.

IMHO this will never happen and it's obvious that I can be wrong, but I can say that I'm pretty sure of what I'm saying...
[G2 and Desire Z General] santimaster2000:
Are you both sure that the antena is missing ? Because till we didn't know that by fact, we can't say that will never happen.
[G2 and Desire Z General] littlescott:
An antenna would cost money to include, why include a part for a feature that isn't available? That would just be wasting money.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
If the support was there, why would HTC not advertise it in the product specs ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] nickexel:
For marketing reasons :) The next phone will use the same chipset, but will have "more features". As far as I remember P3600 owners one morning woke up with an in-built GPS that they never bought :)

I realize however that in this case we have likely both hardware & software limitations that might be hard to overcome.

Similar to the Diamond/Touch Pro case where the chipset supports hardware graphic acceleration (Qtv), but it was never licensed for these devices and the available drivers were pretty limited as far as I remember.
[EVO 4G General] dxtyle:
hi, im new in the evo, i just got it yesterday, and i already bricked one trying to root it, with the 2.2 guide on the forum, now i went to the store and got it replaced, but i dont wanna hassle with that again, so pls give me some directions/advice on how can i root it, or what do i need to know bout my phone before aptemting to do it again...

Thanks!
[EVO 4G General] blackangst:
Use unrEVOked 3.21. Easy peasy.
[EVO 4G General] dxtyle:
any guide?
[EVO 4G General] andyriot:
Yeah,

1) Open Unrevoked

2) Connect phone to USB

3) Wait a few minutes

4) Profit?
[EVO 4G General] blackangst:
http://www.unrevoked.com/. Read ALL the way through, then download and follow the directions exactly. Also you will probably need to install the correct driver on your PC, which is also provided by unrevoked.
[EVO 4G General] dxtyle:
ok guysss thanks very much, i wish i have found this b4 i bricked my first one :D
[EVO 4G General] rockage:
your phone probably wasn't even bricked..
[EVO 4G General] chefthomas99:
And how do you return a bricked phone..
[General Questions and Answers] Rknily4e:
I want to upgrade my SD card but would like to now what benefits Will i get out of this if any. I want to know before spending the big bucks.

Can I add more apps

Will my phone be faster

Please let me know thanks
[Fascinate General] maximuscr31:
I have my gmail on my fascinate as is required and it has worked fine up till about a week ago. Now when i go into it I get the following screens. Now I can send emails, just can't load my inbox. Any suggestions before I wipe?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AeroSkyKnight:
Hi all,

Would anyone who have used both platforms tell me the UX on both? I am surely a nokia fan and a maemo fan more so..(pls dont start flaming on this point.. i am sure many of u ppl wud be from a nokia background and honestly its the only brand around here that used to and still gets prompt service and repairs) Just that its reaching the end of the life cycle is giving me worries.

I am new to the android experience and have gone thru various forums, blogs and asked the same question there too... before i make a final decision, i though i would ask the developers community of android too...the reason i am posting in the samsung galaxy s forum is coz if i am getting an android it would be this one, none of the other phones impress me as this does...

So, what do you ppl think? Ive seen the galaxy s interface personally and wasnt able to see a task manager/switcher as traditional OS built phones have(symbian ones if u may... ) Thats one big turn down for me.

The plus points ive noticed in galaxy s are :-

1. Screen Quality...

2. Updates all the time... (Gingerbread....:D )

3. Better Hardware... (best on any mobile phone sold in india)

4. Battery Life ( maybe arguable as some ppl still think both kinda do the same..)

5. Apps apps apps.... everywhere.....(also all the apps that i thought were for symbian territory are getting android versions which means its gonna be huge in later future even more than how it is now... opera mobile, skyfire...)

6. HD :D :D

The downs (when compared with maemo and against my convenience) that ive noticed are :-

1. No real multitasking... (user selects what to do.. which application to close and when...)

2. Lack of task switcher/manager as i have mentioned...

3. No camera cover or flash

4. Glossy finish (big turn down..)

Among this the multitasking part is ma biggest let down... I wish there was some way around it...

So... based on what i mentioned what would be your suggestions?

Mods can move/delete this thread if found inappropriate. As i mentioned, i posted in Galaxy S thread coz i wanted to know specifically about this device.. All samsung lovers... Ive got nothing against u.. just expressing my findings and opinions which can be corrected by anyone if found wrong... Pls be gentle..... Folks who have used both platforms are welcome to share their views....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lithicus:
Hey man. I've spent many years supporting and buying strictly Nokia devices, but over the years I realized I was paying top of the line prices for phones that simply fell short.

My most recent phone was the e51 which I got to replace a defective e66.

Android has task switching, task managers, and even different ways of running apps (system processes and general). The way to access task switching is to long press on the hardware home button. At least that's the case on the i9000m.

There are many tools on the market which let you kill even the processes hidden from this general view.

Now as for your choice of phone. I personally love the SGS, but a lot of people have problems with it. I left Nokia after a decade due to their terrible customer service in north america, and due to the state of the symbian OS.

The SGS has some issues you may be unaware if though. The GPS is a real problem, and wile it may not affect every unit, compared top Nokia's (and other) GPS units it falls short. The other thing are the updates. So far Samsung has been lagging behind other companies with updates, and there's no guarantee of gingerbread ever coming to the SGS, partly sure to the limited RAM. They've also made some questionable choices, like RFS and TouchWiz, though the latter isn't the worst among androids.

All in all I love this phone. If this post seems critical it's only to bring issues to your attention. You can assume that anything I didn't mention is great with this phone. Hope that helped.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AeroSkyKnight:
Thanks for ur reply... Does that mean holding the home button brings up a list of applications from which u can easily select to switch between various ones? i know multitasking doesnt work as it does on nokia... But is there a way to switch and maybe close the apps from the long press option??

Also.. TouchWize is the UI right? But i am not sure what RFS is...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tehpriest:
The SGS does true multitasking. It will run multiple apps and will close the ones that are least used if it needs memory or processor power automatically so yes, you can switch between live apps.

That said I am a long term Communicator user and if Nokia had assured me of a updated replacement I would still be there. Don't get me wrong I love my SGS but I am a business user and the E90 was a business focussed smart phone. Given the finance to get one I would be very tempted to go to the E7 or N9 when they are released. The N9 is rumoured to be running Maemo.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lithicus:
TouchWiz is the modified UI, while RFS is the file system. The latter is the cause of most of the lag people complain about, while the former is likely the cause of the remaining slowdown.

And as has been said, android does true multitasking. It's a great phone experience, as good as anything I ever got from the Nokia line of e# devices, though I do miss having hardware buttons for blind dialing (that's what you lose with any touchscreen phone)

Oh and sorry about the tons of typos in the previous post.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Maddmatt:
Android multitasking works differently. It's not a simple system that simply leaves an app running as you go to another. Each app is programmed how to react to different events, they can save their state so even if they are shut down due to low memory they will return to their previous state when opened.

If they need to do something in the background they will launch a service so that the whole program isn't required to stay in memory, and it will launch when required.

Not too easy to explain here, but it is true multitasking. It's just more controlled and the OS can manage it for you, no need to worry about closing the program yourself unless it's badly made junk.

As for the crappy RFS filesystem that causes lag, there's several fixes for that in the development section that make the phone blazing fast :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
touchwizz is very quick when rfs is "fixed" (read: gone/replaced :p)

the gps issues aren't big deal anymore in froyo at least for me

there's key differences between maemo and android which aren't samsung or sgs related.

For example Android is using a Linux kernel yes, but most of the system is not very "Linux like" per se. yo'uve got some cripple busybox by default at best, and most apps run as separate users in java sandboxes (some are native)

Maemo is a lot more like a "real Linux" and a lot less java :p

Still, I prefer the Android devices at the moment, mostly more polished/powerfull

The lack of camera cover on the SGS has never been an issue to anyone I think, the lack of flash may or may not be, it isnt for me, it is for some.

The finish is a matter of taste, the phone is very very light, and rather strong/well built actually. Nokias are heavier, and also well built, and might be more appealing to many.

Personally I had a Nokia before too and I like how I don't really feel the sgs in my pocket in comparison.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] fboneol:
I own a Nokia N900 and a Samsung Galaxy S.

It's true, Android has a task switcher (long press home button). But there's no android device at the moment that has real 'visual' multitasking like the N900.

You can watch a video, switch to the internet and load a webpage. when you press the multitask button on the N900, it shows little windows where you still can see the video running or the webpage loading. very impressing.

one point to mention is the hardware. Camera and speaker of the N900 are better in my opinion.

on the other hand, the SGS has the android market and the great screen.

after 4 months using both devices, I'll stick with the SGS.

maemo/meego is surely a good OS that gives you all freedom of a linux system (root/shell access out of the box) but the Nokia support is even worse than samsung at the moment.

the SGS is a very good device in my opinion and I can do everything I could do on the N900. I'm only missing the hardware keyboard at times...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AeroSkyKnight:
Thanks guys... So i guess other than the hardware QWERTY everything else is good?

@fboneol

I dont mind not getting previews of my apps or seeing them run in the background as long it would continue working in the background.. that it does. right??

Thanks guys once again.... uve been a real help.. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jean2323:
i have both phones

to be honest, i love sgs more (though it's bricked at the moment!) because is light, with a great screen and android looks better and there are so many apps to choose, etc

but, i need sip and sip and im are so integrated to the sistem and so easy to use. it's strange that on sgs, a google phone, you cannot do google talk voice and video, well you can do that on nokia. i usually have multiple service runnings ... no problem

sipdroid, or other android apps, are so much limited

on n900, i can email any file easily from the default email program ... on sgs i tried lots of shiny email apps ... just to email pictures and video (maybe there is a way to hack that, but ...)

...

in the end: sgs is more fun, but n900 is more eficient ...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jean2323:
@fboneol ... how that you see the video playing in multitask?

on mine; if i switch the app, the video pauses ... audio, yes ... but video ... no!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
its true sipdroid is not as good as nokia stuff but it works

i liked the nokia integration more ofc but the polish of the rest and the speed etc makes it up for it
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ickyboo:
Isn't Maemo dead? From what I gather all of Nokia's effort are in Meego or whatever it is.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jean2323:
maemo has better sip, yep, but also google voice and video ... now skype works on android too

i'm not from us; but i have an activated voice account ... i transfer all calls to google talk ... so i get all the voice functionality on nokia

on the google phone ... talk has no voice and the google voice app is not working cause i don't have an us no :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
meego /maemo same thing except meego for nokia phone isn't really out there. They share a lot. Could have been called Maemo 7 or Moblin but instead they made a new name to unite both, so meego has quite some maemo code.

on the sgs video calls are supported and compatible with nokias also, and integrated the way i would expect it (unlike SIP)

About SIP i'm talking about using the standards, not Skype or GVoice. I'm not using GVoice or Skype. Nokia has standard SIP support, android a few apps doing it (but they're not as well integrated). Small but significant difference.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szqnl:
I copied some of my own low res photos/images JPEGs from my PC to the phone.

Now I want to use these as the image for some of my contacts. However, when I go to edit a contact and select an images, these images do not appear in the list.

I only get a selection from "Camera, bluetooth, and Images" folders. But they do not appear even if I physically move the files to those folders.

If I view the images the option to "set as..." disappears?

Do they need to be a special size, format etc... to be valid?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omaga:
I use gmail and the contact pictures are sync from there. I put the pictures in my gmail account(make that in my pc offcorse) and when i sync gmail the pictures appears in my phone contact
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szqnl:
Ah, okay, I'll give that a go. Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szqnl:
Doh! Figured it out. Was because I had Rescan Media app installed and disabled media scan on start up - tip to self: great app but remember to rescan after copying across media!

Thanks.
[Droid X General] zehkaiser:
So I've wanted to get back into custom Roms and the like, but was worried I'd brick my phone when I went to the 2.2 OTA. Is the new SBF that was released fixing the bricks people made when 2.2 OTA was released?