yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Phateless:
There's another thread called official aosp that's pre-rooted. Maybe you can flash the market fix from that thread? Or you could just "unroot" and restore this rom to its oem state.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Fouad1013:
Perfected SPL

Does any one know if there is a engineering spl or anyother type of nonperfected spl taht works with this radio?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jadephyre:
at the moment: No, sadly
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] thorazine74:
I'm not sure, its been a while since I dont have 1.6 but I think it worked.

The adapter definitely worked with 2.1/2.2 custom ROMs (Cyanogen and the like)

Is there a known problem with stock roms and htcusb-to-headset adapters that I'm not aware of?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] thorazine74:
You may get it to work with ClockworkMod recovery and disable signatures check enabled.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] QUEDRO:
edit

nvm, it works
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Phateless:
Apologize if this question has already been asked, but...

Does anyone know if the completely official update locks us out of flashing other roms? From what I've read the new SPL is perfected, correct?

So does that mean if I don't like OTA Froyo I won't be able to nandroid back to my current setup?

I know we can root the OTA Froyo but it sounds like it won't let us flash a custom recovery or even SAPPIMG back to 1.5. I've also read some concerns about the new SPL/Radio not being compatible with some of our older favorite roms?

Can someone enlighten me? I'm very confused here and want to make sure I understand correctly.

Thanks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] QUEDRO:
for ^

I have custom recovery w/ this OTA 2.2

I went back to 1.5 and did the process 2nd time with no problems

yes, this SPL and radio as far as I know it's not compatible w/ older roms

I am not a dev, but since nobody answered....I am trying to give u a picture.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Phateless:
What did you do, just sappimg all the way back and do it over again?

Right now I'm on the new spl with a custom recovery and the rooted official version of this update. Working fine so far I guess, nothing spectacular. Donut is still faster and the only thing I really love about Froyo besides the nicer graphics is the speech to text feature. That's pretty damn spiffy.

Beyond that I'd be fine to just stay on Donut my whole life.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Phateless:
Every so often my phone will freeze on the splash screen during reboot. Has anyone else experienced this? Is this anything to worry about?

I don't want my phone to spontaneously brick itself one day.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] coolloser:
Mine does that too, on the android screen...I do a battery pull and fine after that...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ezterry:
See if my newer kernel helps if it keeps happening and you didn't already install it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] coolloser:
Thanks ezterry...don't see the reboot freeze yet after 5 or so reboots, first kernel that I can actually go above 595 too!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Phateless:
the 10/31 kernel? I think that's the one I'm already using.

Just flashed 27.08 and boot-looped. If I flash 23.02 while on the new spl am I in danger?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Phateless:
I have the new spl and was running the prerooted ota with ezterry's cm6 kernel.

I just flashed the new radio and boot-looped. Does anyone know if flashing back to 23.02 will brick me?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Edubyah:
Use Stericsons busy box app from market it has the cp function.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] thorazine74:
I downgraded the radio successfully a handful of times, unfortunately it seems no other kernel is compatible with this new radio.

Sent from my Toaster Oven 3G using Smoke Signals v3.1
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] thorazine74:
Nobody tried if their htcusb to audio jack headset adapter works with this rom?

Sent from my Toaster Oven 3G using Smoke Signals v3.1
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Phateless:
It works with ezterry's hack of the official rom, which has his own kernel. I listen to Pandora every day on my way to work.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] thorazine74:
But I'm afraid it doesn't support the new radio, so we lose the 15 Mb extra memory with ezterry's kernel right?

Can you just flash the kernel to try it out and then return to stock kernel if it works worse? Or do I need a full flash+wipe?

Sent from my Toaster Oven 3G using Smoke Signals v3.1
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Phateless:
Dunno. I flashed the new radio while running ezterry's ota official hack with his own kernel (in my sig)

and boot looped.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ezterry:
Ok, I need a tester of a custom kernel on the new radio (this works on the dream with new radio+SPL+extra ram but I don't have a MT3G)

Anykernel Installer:

ezBiffTestKernel20101106-2708_S.zip

MD5: 79c3634b8b691646735dc55d77cec714

Source Code: This Commit

If you have the ota rooted with custom recovery on a MT3G do the following:

1) place file on root of your SD Card

2) reboot to recovery

3) Nandroid backup (so if it fails you can restore w/o harm)

4) flash

5) reboot

6) check 'cat /proc/memio' and 'cat /proc/meminfo' and post here

If it fails restore nandroid and let me know.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shamo42:
I installed this kernel on my 1.6 Rom along with the new radio and hboot.

Meminfo gives me this info:

Memtotal 112700

Memfree 17896

I forgot to check Meminfo before the changes. Did it work? Or is this only for 2.2 Roms?

edit:

I think I have 5MB more RAM than before. Was hoping 10MB RAM hack + new 15 MB RAM hack would result in 25MB extra RAM total ;)

But an extra 5MB is nice too. Thanks for your efforts.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Agenator:
A small idea

You know, I was just wondering about ways we can find phones with the OTA update.

Has anyone gone into their friendly T-mobile retail store to see if the stock phones there have received it or are getting prompts to install?

I checked my local store in San Antonio, TX and didn't see anything. Just an idea.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] loulou704:
cause then we would still be in the same boat cause the server would be down daily from over load.....specially since it wont be mytouch user only downloading it, everybody and there momma will be trying to get it for there own reasons. from what i understand from management however is that after the 25th it will be available on tmobiles site for download.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jadephyre:
That remains to be seen.

Also, if you put something on the net, you should put it on servers that are able to handle the strain.

Google should be very capable of doing so, yet they are just pissing on us without the courtesy of calling it rain by only pushing this stuff over the air.

Yes, I curse, a lot, so sue me... or report me, or whatever tickles your fancy.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] YarsRevenge78:
I would expect a supervisor or anyone else to say they can't provide it, but I thought 10 minutes out of my day wouldn't hurt anything. What if I got somebody who actually cared about customer service and offered to look for the link? Never gonna happen I know, but what pissed me off is that the guy just refused to let me speak to anyone else. I was being polite and everything too, I wasn't being a crazy irate customer. Oh well...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jadephyre:
The only person I've read about so far who got the upgrade did NOT take a logcat and also shelved the phone again half an hour later after fiddling around with it a bit. That was on the official tmo forums for the States.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] YarsRevenge78:
I wouldn't think they would even carry this phone in stock, they would be trying to push the newer phones on everybody, wouldn't they?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] YarsRevenge78:
I may just check back in a couple of weeks then. No use in unrooting and waiting forever for the OTA like everybody else is.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] loulou704:
and you would think that...i ask myself the same question about server overloads, but ive seen some big sites get smacked by users. apple being one off them. consider iOS is just one operating system for one phone, there server gets shut down almost everytime a major update comes out....android can be applied in so many ways so the demand pretty much blows iOS out the water.

plus im still up in the air about 2.2 stock on a mytouch....its one of those things that sounds good but you just dont feel its right lol. im banking google feels the same way and thats why they choose this way to deliver it and "monitor" he updates and i bet it 100% why tmobile put the task on google. im sure they dont want to be on the end of the finger should this update make your mytouch run slower than frozen syrup lol
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jadephyre:
whatever, iOS doesn't matter here (nor will it ever, except in Stevie's mind).
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] loulou704:
you know in a sense (and im thinking from a exec's point of view) this would be a way to push you to newer phones.....consider all that 2.2 packs, once you do get it on your still old mytouch and start to play with it 9/10 your going to fiend for the same experience on a faster phone.....lets face it, for those that will hold on to a phone till it dies it will take a pretty good reason to get you off that old phone....2.2 update its tmo giving you a reason.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] loulou704:
your right,,that was kind of my point lol. simply giving a example of how downloading a file can bring down ANY site including google which does matter here :)
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] loulou704:
hell im just trying to figure out how pass hackers were able to figure out what the url was before it was sent out...i was looking at them and there all random as hell in random folder names like "passion" i wish one of them would come on down and help us out.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] exe127:
someone in T-mobile forum has just upgrade to 2.2, but why no one in xda has update? Anyone has update, please post some photo, please~
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shadowofzeus:
We don't matter anymore. There are more "important" phones to mess with now.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jadephyre:
guess we can call ourselves lucky that Google/Tmobile/Vodafone have not disabled our phones yet by means of a killswitch (as there is none, yet I wouldn't be surprised if there was one).
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] loulou704:
from tmo forums:

"I just talked to TMO, and they said it was not based on imeis, its based on altitude. so everyone get on your roof and hold the phone up high. when youre up there, go to Menu>Settings>About Phone, and shout I HAVE THE POWER!"

lol that was funny, had to post it
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shadowofzeus:
Hell, look at the rom development for our phones. Its gotten slower and slower.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] jadephyre:
If that guy would have been sitting next to me, I would have bashed his head in with a monitor or another blunt object within reach of my hands.

**** that like is that not funny, pulling the legs of people who are already on edge because of this.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Asadullah:
I thought it was funny and I've been on my computer for the last three days straight waiting for it.anybody from orlando got it?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] TJ Gonz:
Ive been out of town the past few days. I get back in town on Sunday and ill try to find the update on my dads phone. Just wondering if since the update comes in two parts would the second part delete the first off the phone leaving all hanging with half a ROM? I'll try what's posted on the OP first hopefully that'll do it.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ezterry:
It is known to work on CM6 and Biffmod [and of course the MT3G-OTA] you may have issues pre-froyo because the new kernels have problems with the older versions.. That said if I find the old source code I can probably make it go
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shamo42:
So far no problems on SuperD 1.11. What kind of problems should I be looking for?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ezterry:
wifi [probably ok but worth a check], compcache, 3d graphics broken, bluetooth, errors when using USB
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] shamo42:
OK, I'll test this later.

Right now I installed the rooted official 2.2.1 Rom with your kernel and it works. Thanks again.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ehbello:
I tried your last kernel in my HTC Magic 32B from Vodafone Spain, and here is the data.

Before:

$ cat /proc/memio
/proc/memio: No such file or directory

$ cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 98440 kB
MemFree: 2036 kB
Buffers: 36 kB
Cached: 23072 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 42088 kB
Inactive: 39552 kB
Active(anon): 28428 kB
Inactive(anon): 31012 kB
Active(file): 13660 kB
Inactive(file): 8540 kB
Unevictable: 300 kB
Mlocked: 0 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
Dirty: 0 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 58856 kB
Mapped: 20056 kB
Shmem: 592 kB
Slab: 5220 kB
SReclaimable: 956 kB
SUnreclaim: 4264 kB
KernelStack: 1960 kB
PageTables: 4872 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 49220 kB
Committed_AS: 1290020 kB
VmallocTotal: 802816 kB
VmallocUsed: 65536 kB
VmallocChunk: 716804 kB

Before (AmonRA 1.7.0 recovery):

/ # cat /proc/memio
cat: can't open '/proc/memio': No such file or directory

/ # cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 97964 kB
MemFree: 88192 kB
Buffers: 0 kB
Cached: 5188 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 1828 kB
Inactive: 4708 kB
Active(anon): 1380 kB
Inactive(anon): 0 kB
Active(file): 448 kB
Inactive(file): 4708 kB
Unevictable: 0 kB
Mlocked: 0 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
Dirty: 0 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 1376 kB
Mapped: 748 kB
Slab: 1948 kB
SReclaimable: 536 kB
SUnreclaim: 1412 kB
PageTables: 68 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 48980 kB
Committed_AS: 1744 kB
VmallocTotal: 155648 kB
VmallocUsed: 51812 kB
VmallocChunk: 65532 kB

After:

Kernel Crash. I don't know how to debug this. adb logcat does not work ;)

Before, I was running your MT3G-test2_S.zip and MT3G-test2-market-fix_S.zip with your kernel ezBiffTestKernel20101031-ebi0_S.zip without problems.

I think that I forgot to instal the "new radio". Where can I found it? Is it compatible with my Magic?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ezterry:
This kernel is for the new radio+SPL

It must be used on 2.22.27.08 with 1.33.0013 (magic) or 1.33.0013d (dream)

You can of course continue to run my 20101031 its the same kernel sans 14MB or ram the new radio+spl lets us use
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] aaraya1516:
Success!

From the info below, looks like it works. It is missing like 60kB from MemTotal, but nothing major. setCPU 614/122

# cat /proc/meminfo

MemTotal: 112700 kB

MemFree: 1684 kB

Buffers: 244 kB

Cached: 23244 kB

SwapCached: 0 kB

Active: 48500 kB

Inactive: 45740 kB

Active(anon): 35532 kB

Inactive(anon): 35808 kB

Active(file): 12968 kB

Inactive(file): 9932 kB

Unevictable: 296 kB

Mlocked: 0 kB

SwapTotal: 0 kB

SwapFree: 0 kB

Dirty: 0 kB

Writeback: 0 kB

AnonPages: 71072 kB

Mapped: 16492 kB

Shmem: 276 kB

Slab: 5208 kB

SReclaimable: 1108 kB

SUnreclaim: 4100 kB

KernelStack: 2360 kB

PageTables: 7324 kB

NFS_Unstable: 0 kB

Bounce: 0 kB

WritebackTmp: 0 kB

CommitLimit: 56348 kB

Committed_AS: 2159428 kB

VmallocTotal: 598016 kB

VmallocUsed: 63080 kB

VmallocChunk: 513028 kB
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] QUEDRO:
It works!

I flashed new kernel and OC to 614 in SetCpu! yaaay

Checked meminfo, yep missing 60 KB of memtotal.

Love it!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] thorazine74:
I will flash it and give it a try and report back once nandroid is done.

How are we supposed to test for compcache and 3d graphics compatibility?

So, we can install this with CM6/CM6.1RC1 with 2.22.27 and we would still get 15 Mb plus RAM and all of the features & customization of stock CM like swap, compcache, overclocking?

Tested it, I have Vodafone Spain 32b Magic, I'm using original (custom modded posted here) TMo OTA from Google FRG83B, SPL 1.33.0013 & radio 2.22.27.

Stock kernel:

uname -a
Linux localhost 2.6.32.9-27237-gbe746fb #1 PREEMPT Thu Jul 22 15:50:12 PDT 2010 armv6l GNU/Linux

cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 112760 kB
MemFree: 4748 kB
Buffers: 152 kB
Cached: 20448 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 41720 kB
Inactive: 50368 kB
Active(anon): 32164 kB
Inactive(anon): 39884 kB
Active(file): 9556 kB
Inactive(file): 10484 kB
Unevictable: 296 kB
Mlocked: 0 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
Dirty: 0 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 71792 kB
Mapped: 11280 kB
Shmem: 264 kB
Slab: 5700 kB
SReclaimable: 972 kB
SUnreclaim: 4728 kB
KernelStack: 2152 kB
PageTables: 5400 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 56380 kB
Committed_AS: 1479900 kB
VmallocTotal: 598016 kB
VmallocUsed: 56312 kB
VmallocChunk: 515076 kB

This kernel:

uname -a
Linux localhost 2.6.34.7-cm6-biffmod #7 PREEMPT Sat Nov 6 14:21:53 EDT 2010 armv6l GNU/Linux

cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 112700 kB
MemFree: 1728 kB
Buffers: 100 kB
Cached: 28096 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 46780 kB
Inactive: 45824 kB
Active(anon): 32144 kB
Inactive(anon): 32900 kB
Active(file): 14636 kB
Inactive(file): 12924 kB
Unevictable: 296 kB
Mlocked: 0 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
Dirty: 0 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 64724 kB
Mapped: 21820 kB
Shmem: 328 kB
Slab: 6068 kB
SReclaimable: 1128 kB
SUnreclaim: 4940 kB
KernelStack: 2168 kB
PageTables: 7088 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 56348 kB
Committed_AS: 2060516 kB
VmallocTotal: 598016 kB
VmallocUsed: 62432 kB
VmallocChunk: 497668 kB

Wifi & Bluetooth shortly tested & working (Wifi internet browsing and LAN shares access, bluetooth with a computer, obex & headset profiles), USB debugging & USB Mass storage working.

I'm not sure whats the best way to test for 3D? And compcache I have no clue how to enable it with stock OTA ROM?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ezterry:
Then I got the memory map right, MemTotal is (totalSystemRam - non-paged kernel ram) the new kernel probably just needed 60k more of the latter.

Angry birds for the 3d (still missing textures on the dream)

Compcache will work its a cm6 based kernel.. but you will need to install some changes to the ota.. rzscontrol and maybe manually set up /dev/block/ramzswap0
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Sigma47:
I'm runnin Hboot 1.33.2005, can I proceed with radio and kernel flash? what are the draw backs of using the new SPL 1.33.0013 vs my current setup.

Sorry my sig is old running latest cm nightly
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] ehbello:
Okey! I flashed the new radio+spl and now It boots. Meminfo shows this:

# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 112700 kB
MemFree: 4148 kB
Buffers: 20 kB
Cached: 24180 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 46636 kB
Inactive: 44844 kB
Active(anon): 32800 kB
Inactive(anon): 35096 kB
Active(file): 13836 kB
Inactive(file): 9748 kB
Unevictable: 300 kB
Mlocked: 0 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
Dirty: 0 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages: 67588 kB
Mapped: 20476 kB
Shmem: 316 kB
Slab: 5376 kB
SReclaimable: 1024 kB
SUnreclaim: 4352 kB
KernelStack: 2184 kB
PageTables: 6648 kB
NFS_Unstable: 0 kB
Bounce: 0 kB
WritebackTmp: 0 kB
CommitLimit: 56348 kB
Committed_AS: 1866876 kB
VmallocTotal: 598016 kB
VmallocUsed: 60392 kB
VmallocChunk: 504836 kB

Wow! 15MB more of total memory between previous kernel. Great!

Thank you for your efforts, ezTerry!
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] QUEDRO:
I played Angry Birds and textures are missing (white).

And also I ran quadrant benchmark - score is 357 with 614 OC - performance governor.

Phone feels good so far, smooth and quick.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] amazinglarry311:
angry birds texture problems

the angry birds issue is fixed if you install firerat's lwp fix.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] THRESHE:
Hey guys could you help me with this

I have android developer phone 2 and I've tried to take "DOWNGRADE TO DONUT OTA:" way but while at step 5 I got a message "Main version is older!" and the install aborted :mad:

What should I do?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] crypticc:
works for vodafone magic 32b

downloaded hboot and radio .zip's and extracted img's

vodafone uk magic 32b previously on update.Engineering-SPL-HBOOT-1.33.2010-signed

nandroid backup (cm6 nightly)

mounted (mount -a)

wiped cache (using rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache)

wiped dalvik (rm -rf /cache/dalvik-cache)

rebooted to fastboot (reboot bootloader)

fastboot flash radio radio.img

fastboot flash hboot hboot.img

fastboot erase system (note I didn't do -w)

fastboot reboot-bootloader

rebooted to recovery

restored nandoid

flashed gapps

flashed ezBiffTestKernel20101106-2708_S.zip from your file above

rebooting now and fingers crossed :)

note: fully charged phone because fastboot doesn't let battery charge

update: so far got pin-screen - just letting rom stabilse. :) time from start to finish = 30 mins

update 2: worked :) wifi okay. market okay. 3d gallery okay. faster than ever.

very timely as wife just for desire hd, I feel better holding out for a tegra 2 phone.

tell me who I should donate to, or shall I spread the love?

# cat /proc/meminfo

cat /proc/meminfo

MemTotal: 112700 kB

MemFree: 2176 kB

Buffers: 40 kB

Cached: 16136 kB

SwapCached: 10188 kB

Active: 40452 kB

Inactive: 42232 kB

Active(anon): 32644 kB

Inactive(anon): 34280 kB

Active(file): 7808 kB

Inactive(file): 7952 kB

Unevictable: 292 kB

Mlocked: 0 kB

SwapTotal: 51828 kB

SwapFree: 30828 kB

Dirty: 0 kB

Writeback: 0 kB

AnonPages: 60728 kB

Mapped: 10244 kB

Shmem: 108 kB

Slab: 7144 kB

SReclaimable: 1476 kB

SUnreclaim: 5668 kB

KernelStack: 2344 kB

PageTables: 7916 kB

NFS_Unstable: 0 kB

Bounce: 0 kB

WritebackTmp: 0 kB

CommitLimit: 108176 kB

Committed_AS: 2321376 kB

VmallocTotal: 598016 kB

VmallocUsed: 63140 kB

VmallocChunk: 495620 kB
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] QUEDRO:
Cool! Thx, will try...
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Phateless:
Has anyone figured out how to get the htc_ime.apk touch input keyboard to work with this?
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] aplitt86:
I have 2 annoying little issues that hopefully someone can help with.

First, my trackball notification does not work for Handcent SMS. It always doesn't light up when I receive an Email like it used to. It works fine when I receive a call. I am coming from CM6 and I was hoping that going to the stock software would fix this, but I guess not. This used to work a long time ago but not anymore.

Second, I am having trouble flashing a custom recovery image. I wanted to use RA-sapphire-v1.7.0 like I did with CM6 but it will not flash. I downloaded rom manager and flashed Clockwork Recovery as well as AmonRA's recovery but when I reboot into recovery I only get the stock recovery. I would like to be able to do a nandroid backup and flash an OC kernel.

Can anyone help me with this?

I DO have root btw.
[myTouch 3G, Magic Android Development] Phateless:
Can't help you on the trackball and haven't used the phone enough since update to comment on that.

As for ROM Manager, I've noticed something similar. I'd say about half the time I try to flash CW Recovery, the phone hangs and I have to pull the battery and reboot. Every so often it will work as normal.

With stock ROMs, even WITH root, they reinstall the oem recovery on boot, so every time you want to use Amon Ra's recovery you need to open ROM Manager, flash CWM Recovery and then flash Amon Ra's recovery.

Annoying yes, but it does work.

Btw, which OC kernel were you going to use? I'm thinking exactly the same thing. I'm also wondering how I can enable swap with this rom. I really like to stay oem and really want to use the new radio.

Can you link me to what you have in mind?