yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rr5678:
I know, I was using the porn thing as a joke.

$600 to spend on a phone. Sure, I could have gotten an iPhone, but no, what did I get? An HD2. Why? Things can be done with this phone that the iPhone will never see. Multi OS capability? HD2 yes, iPhone no. Android? HD2 yes, iPhone - maybe. If I wanted some old man tellin' me what to do, heck, I'd just speak to my grandfather. (if he were alive)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kdeguy:
since you failed to get the satire in beybenbey's post in its entirety, perhaps you should be asking your mommy more often.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] nks2105:
Haha I was going to post the exact same thing but somehow I decided to check all the posts first.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
So does it bug anyone else when some one calls Android "Droid". Bugs the freakin crap out of me!

I am just saying.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] FriedSushi87:
mobile porn is amazing....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] abs298:
lol

ha ha ha off topic... jokes :P
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 4tune:
Help meeeeee!!!

Pleazzzeeh​

My PhOnE iS a BrIcK.

Help Cotulla

I want you fix now gauner1986 and DarkStone1337

Please urgent Cass67 and mattc

Camera do not work hastarin

My life is mess :(

Always wanted to do that :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Neo1978:
Nand Benchmarking

I don´t know its useful. I found today an app called"Android hacker's system tool "

This tool can Benchmarking NAND and SD card. It was Interesting to see the difference of Android on Nand and Android on SD. But at this moment only devs can test this.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JanssoN:
That's what most people do :D asking and crying before searching and afterwards, if the get no response, they are telling us we're idiots and stuff and whatever..

But I think this thread will make my days ;)​
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] JanssoN:
+ 1 :D

Droid sounds like an animal which is extinct :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Jammie_1989:
I do :D :D :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sp33dy_gtx:
nand

My heart will pomp another month , just wainting for mglar for booting andorid direct from nand :-wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :((((((((((
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dneto:
Hi mskip,

Thanks for you attention. I think you´re correct. Please express our grateful for this amazing work. Sorry for post in incorrect thread, i miss this thread. :rolleyes:

LeTama,

Thank you for theses works. You´re rock.

Finally one position about status. Let's wait a lit bit more. :D to be happy.

I confess, i can't use Windows Phone 6.5 anymore... Android is very very nice. For browser, games and cloud support. Android brought a new life to our HD2, maybe 1 or 2 years

Regards and thank you
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] radiance26:
that made a long time that cotulla didn't come on the forum.

How can you send him messages ?

@Letama: Thanks for your hard work, people like you spending much time for community are very respectable.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dneto:
mskip,

First, let me say again thank you LeTama and all team that makes it possible to run the Android in HD2. We are indeed very grateful.

But when we do not get a vision of progress that, and adds up the news about the new team's focus on developing the Android for the TG01, it seems that we forgotten in time. A kind of limbo, because we are encouraged on all channels to do "not ask about the progress of the project".

Pardon my boldness, but I think it is a question that many would like to do: It does not seem wise to keep the focus of development efforts and in solving these final problems ?

It's very clear to us that Android is truly an amazing operating system, and after experiencing it, it becomes almost impossible to go back to using Windows 6.5 Phone, and so give an extra life to our beloved HTC Leo.

Forgive me if I dared to raise this question, but I really should be clarified to avoid speculation (as seen here) and also a certain misunderstanding of how developers treat us, the ordinary users.

Thank You for this space.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] letama:
Hi Guys,

Ok, let's clarify this first: there is no team focus on TG01. What happens with TG01 is that Markinus bought one and is having fun with it. It's only one dev, not whole team. And Markinus said that he will continue working on HD2.

Second, there is not much left to do except nand. Nand is in Cotulla's hand and only his as MagLdr is closed source and no other HD2 dev is working on it. So let Markinus play with his TG01 if he wants, he deserves to have some fun.

Well, there is no real problem, I gave the Android corruption as an example of why nand takes time and must not be taken lightly. The corruption is currently work-arounded, we don't have this issue anymore, but we loose 32MB of nand. Cotulla took a deeper look at this and could come with a better solution, but even if he can't, well, no big deal.

So, in conclusion, give time to Cotulla. I'd rather wait few months than ending with people bricking definitely their hd2. I insist on that, some are thinking that permanent brick is not possible, it's not true.

Personally, I won't touch nand development until I have another HD2 or jtag. Be glad that Cotulla took the risk and that we are close to something working.

No problem. I can understand the frustration, but Cotulla asked us to avoid talking about nand and magldr to avoid too much pressure and speculations. I'd rather explain things to clarify and avoid crazy rumors, but that's his choice and I respect it, so I won't give much more details.

So in conclusion, be patient, it will come one way or another. Even on SD, Android is running well, nand will bring benefits but nothing that dramatic.

LeTama
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dneto:
Hi LeTama,

With this explanation and clear positioning. I, at least according to this precaution.

Special thanks to you, for clarify this subject for us.

I really think that little information in addition to news in xda portals, pocketnow and others, help to cause rumors and some confusion. I'm sure that after his enlightenment, we'll see people much more patient. =]

Thank You LeTama, Contulla, Markinus, DFTeam and all developers.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dneto:
Please keep. :D BUMP
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dneto:
Extracted from NAND Updates Topic:

LeTama,

I think the main issue for normal users like me, isn't performance. But the possibility of use Android as a native OS. Turn on and boot fast. I hope.

Today in SD card, we have some small, but existent corruption issues. I can't use the same BUILD for more one month... in general i have some crashes and Android proccess, slow down builds. Solution: Fresh Build Install (with data.img).

Thank you bro... thank you all DFT and friends.

Fingerscrossed to MGLDR and NAND support.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stktd:
hi guys sorry if this is in the wrong place but didnt want to open new thead over such a small issue, i have tryed searching this but no luck! when using desire hd builds (iv tryed a few) not all flash content seems to be working for example bbc weather page it wont play video, i dont have this problem with any others and iv had to go back to desire coz i cant live without, so if your in the uk and you can play it using desire hd build id be sooooo gratefull if you could share your set up

thanks

http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Apache0c:
I second that, I would love to hear LeTama's take on this because I've experienced the same exact thing.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] letama:
Yes, Magldr and nand will give you straight and quick boot to Android and I don't have corruption now.

Regarding the corruption with SD, the main problem is that android doesn't sync and umount SD at shutdown/reboot and it doesn't know that our initrd mounts SD in its back. I think it could be fix with a proper script to sync, kill android, sync, umount, reboot.

LeTama
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Apache0c:
That is great news. And no more worrying that your WM6.5 Rom/Radio is compatible with Android right? How will that work, will there be a new Radio driver?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] letama:
For Audio/Robotic problems ?

Well, rom, you won't care as you won't have wince anymore. For radio, Audio driver is the same except that you will need absolutely my htcleo.acdb or a default.acdb, the "remove default.acdb" trick won't work anymore. I don't know if all radio works with htcleo.acdb, I flashed few ones without problems.

LeTama
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] radiance26:
Seems like Cotulla was on the chan today.

But don't know if they were talking about hd2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dusko_m:
is it possible to have separate partition for data and use it instead of mounting data.img? - like hack that already exists on different android phones

would it decrease risk of data corruption or is it indifferent whether image or external partition is mounted for data
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] letama:
No, it wouldn't, it won't sync and umount on shutdown/reboot either. The ultimate way would be to send kill to running apps to let them gracefully terminate, shutdown android ui and services, sync, umount, reboot or shutdown phone.

it would look something like this:

stop servicemanager

stop zygote

stop vold

stop media

stop dbus

stop installd

stop keystore

stop akmd

stop wpa_supplicant

stop dhcpd

stop installd

... [check with 'getprop | grep svc' if some need to be added]

stop keystore

sync

sync

sync

umount /data

losetup -d /dev/loopxx

umount /system

losetup -d /dev/loopxx

sync

umount /sdcard

reboot

I can't really help more on this as umounting is initrd/build specific and as I'm running on nand, I don't have the issue.

LeTama
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dusko_m:
Thanks for this comprehensive answer

and we all hate you for this :D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dneto:
hahhahaha I agree! :D Nice answer

LeTama.... MGLDR /NAND will be our Xmas Gift? Like HSPL in last year? :D

Thank you bro...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] letama:
Lol, yes I know, it's a bit frustrating... Don't hit me!

Regarding the Christmas present, well, it's in Cotulla's hands. I know he's working hard on it, but he never gives ETA or dates, it's done when it's done.

On my side I had to step back a little, I hope to resume activity in January, but it's not like there is much essential to do.

LeTama
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Apache0c:
LeTama, According to the JDMS 1.6.2 thread, you contributed a completely stable PPP version. This wasnt your words, but the words of the Chef.

I found this hard to believe considering that PPP doesnt work anywhere else. And low and behold, I've tried every combination of access point settings and still no dice. I got MMS to go through and then I had intermittent connectivity issues. What are your thoughts on this?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] letama:
Hi Apache0c,

Yes, I worked on ril wrapper and ppp diagnostic. Thread is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=824413

There is also important information here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8885538&postcount=22

My thread has information on what needs to be done, and debugging commands that helps me troubleshoot problems.

We identified a kernel memory problem with ppp, my thread has some suggestion regarding it and two different patches are used in hastarin and MDJ kernels. If with suggestions there you still have problems, I'd be glad to help if you provide me the logs.

With my build, ppp is completely stable but I don't use mms, so you may have some problem I didn't see. And as it's a cm6 based and not sense build, it consumes less memory.

LeTama
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MarkAtHome:
Can Android OPTIONALLY utilize Google?

Hi all – this might seem like heresy to some, but is there a way to install Android on an HTC HD2 that severs any/all

automatic

Google interaction?

I have experimented a bit with a few NAND ROMs and it seems like that whatever app I might choose to install/use, it wants to interact with Google servers.

Yes, I realize that Android is Google’s, but I only want to access Google (manually) if I choose to search with it, access my Gmail account, or make use of their maps or other applications.

Other than that, my preference is keep Google off my phone – I do not want it synchronizing anything, accessing any of my phone’s information, or collecting any other data that might generate a profile.

Collection of all this information is a concern to me.

Can this be done?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fte50:
STUCK - HD2 Android

Help Needed Folks-

My unit is the US T-Mobile HD2.

I had android running fine for a few weeks untill it no longer booted past the 'go,go,go' stage.

Its running SPL-2.08 and was using the Desire HD android build and Magldr 1.10.

After reading on various threads re 'go,go,go fault', i now have flashed Magldr 1.13 and then reflashed the android desire hd build all ok.

Problem is it still wont boot past the 'go,go.go' stage. Ive searched numerous threads and cant get my head around this and am now thinking its perhaps a hardware fault as opposed to software, unless ive overlooked something.

Please, i know im new but ANY help or ideas would be appreciated in trying to revive my 2 week old phone.

Thanx & appreciation in advance
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mskip:
Did you make sure to flash the required Radio before flashing Magldr?

Have you tried flashing WinMo back to your phone and starting again from the beginning?

Mark.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fte50:
Hi Mark,

I have not flashed any radio before flashing magldr - nor did i the 1st time around, but the phone was working for a few weeks.

What radio do you suggest i flash? Can i flash it now after installing magldr?

Finally i havent tried flashing windows back and starting again. I will look for the links and how to's.

Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Digital Outcast:
To flash Windows Mobile back to your phone all you have to do is download a Windows Mobile ROM and run the RUU with your phone attached while it is in the bootloader.

You can install a new radio anytime without affecting anything on the phone storage itself, as the NAND storage is separate from where the radio is flashed to. You may want to try the newer 2.15.x.x radios, they seem to be working very well for most people.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fte50:
Thanks 4 ur time champ.

Where can i find a windows mobile rom? By phone in bootloader, do you mean the magldr screen or the multicolored screen?

Sorry mate, i guess im not very good with all this terminology.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mhamlin7:
I need some help. I already have android on my HD2. The problem is I have 2.08 radio and want to upgrade it. How do I do this and were do I get the file to upgrade to 2.15?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rmdeathwish:
Just goto the HD2 WM Rom development section , there is a thread there that lists all the radios with their download links.

After that , just flash the radio using ur Bootloader (3 colored lines screen)... and reboot...

Thats it.... nothing will change on ur android rom...

cheers
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] d34th:
Even though we have android in nand, it's still boots just like before; isn't it? I mean have zimage. I have the g2 and the roms don't look any similar. Also is there a better way to help the developers with crash reports? I love the work all the developers are doing, but I have yet to find that perfect stable build. I'm using the tmous hd2. Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Digital Outcast:
Any Android device has a zImage, regardless if it is running from NAND, SD, USB, HDD, etc. It is the kernel. All Linux distros (and Android is such) have a kernel.

Your G2 device looks different because it is most likely a completely different ROM base from what you are flashing to your HD2.

As far as crash reports go, if you have the Android SDK installed you can save logcat reports and provide them to developers for analysis.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Digital Outcast:
I meant the HTC bootloader, which is the tri-color screen (power device off, hold vol down + power on). If you need a Windows Mobile ROM check out the Windows Mobile ROM Development forum.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mhamlin7:
Thank you. I got my phone to the bootloader screen but can not get the new radio to flash. I plugged in my phone to the cp and the custom ruu says it does not detect the device. I am assuming I am doing this wrong. What steps should I take to flash the new radio. Thanks for any help.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Digital Outcast:
When your phone is in the bootloader and connected to the computer, does the phone show "Serial" or "USB" at the bottom?

If it shows "Serial" then your computer is either not detecting it or does not have the driver installed for it. You need to either install ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Center/HTC USB Sync driver, or try connecting it to another USB port or computer.

If it does show "USB" then try running the RUU as administrator, or disabling any antivirus/firewall applications temporarily.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mhamlin7:
My phone does say usb at the bottomof the bootloader screen. The custom ruu radio says "The update Utility can not open the requested file. Please chack you Update Utility."
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MrdrOfCrows:
Camera

For some odd reason, no matter what Android build I install on my HD2 my camera never works. Any ideas?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rr5678:
waah now let's go cry to owr mommies about the phone being bwoken :p

It does. Why do people shorten the word "android"?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] papoble:
Long long long time ago linux worked on iphone... And have you got any idea what html5 means?

Only thing by now hd2 wins my iphone is 4,3 inches screen.:p
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
This is the droid I've been looking for... </jedi mind trick>

Something I've been waiting to say for a very long time lol

Was demonstrating my phone to someone at work today who was considering an iphone and he went "you know what, *&%@ that apple thing, I'm getting me one of those!" Another conversion successful lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] deckardbr09:
Thats awesome, android has come a long way especially with Sense added on. I showed an apple fan the widget option on Android and he went nuts.

I wonder if eventually someone would convert the iphone IOS to run on windows and android phones. Not that we'd want to stay in that limited operating system for long, but certainly would be a good show off piece. Like dual booting into android or IOS.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] agentaaron:
I think the chances of a fully working port of Android on the iPhone would come quicker than iOS on any Android/Winmo device.

Even if you could port iOS...it would probably run like crap. If you look, Android and Winmo are operating systems that are designed to run on a multitude of different processors and resolutions. iOS was designed to run with one specific processor at one specific resolution.

There are a handful of apps for iOS that I love and one that I use constantly for work (iBrewmaster) which is why I now carry an iPod Touch since I got rid of my iPhone.

Ater the iPhone is Jailbroken...you can do quite a bit with it. I suppose everyone is going to have an opinion, mine is that...the iPhone is a great device, but I do prefer Android any day of the week.

Anyone want to port iBrewmaster to Android...I will ship you my iPod as payment ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] hazard99:
I guess droid has become a cool name. I get a lot of people that call the hd2 droid. " Is that the droid" I say no its an hd2 with android on it. They look at me confused like wtf is android. They have no idea what android is they only know droid.

I'm gunna start calling the xbox 360 "playstation".

On another note

Android have I told you I love you!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] karendar:
AHHH!! Help me, I'm a ROM junky!

Hooked on Hastarin works for me! :eek:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] karendar:
No offense, but... Who would want the iOS on an ANDROID device? That's like going to McDonalds to eat a salad. Now Android on an iphone... That's not 2g... That'd just make their whole iphone experience worth while! :D haha
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Samsunguy:
21:03	gauner1986	rajko: i finished my sense-rom btw

21:03	Rajko	you wizard

21:03	gauner1986	rajko: got it down to 180mb

21:03	gauner1986	:P

21:04	gauner1986	by squashfsing app and framework dir

21:04	Rajko	now make it boot without /bin and our initscript

21:04	Rajko	we got rmnet going yet ?

21:04	gauner1986	no

21:05	Rajko	damn, stil need pppd

21:05	gauner1986	still suffers from no traffic :P

................................................................................

21:10	Rajko	no corruption since 12. oct

21:10	Rajko	DomZ, dont use reboot

21:10	Rajko	it breaks everything

21:10	gauner1986	lol

21:10	DomZ	really ??? lol

21:10	Rajko	yes

21:10	Rajko	i cant boot again if i reboot

21:10	DomZ	so it's that

21:10	Rajko	on my frf81 build

21:10	RaiderX303	can i test nand? i got a hd2 spare

21:10	Rajko	shut down

21:11	gauner1986	rajko: corruption?

21:11	Rajko	and then power back on its fine

21:11	Rajko	no, just something the reboot script in frf81 does or something

21:11	DomZ	ok thanks Rajko

21:11	gauner1986	rajko: if i shut down i can't power on anymore

21:11	DomZ	lol

21:11	gauner1986	have to take battery out

finaly a sense build for nand and theres a good reason why nand has not been released due to the problems you have when you try to reboot the phone.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Dimension2035:
The only big factor for me is usb internet sharing. It's a MUST have for me. Hope it will work on the first nand release.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Reno_79:
ROBOSEXUAL!!!

lol sorry that just made me think of Futurama...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Monrad:
Funny thing is I bought the best WinMo phone and after flashing and flashing WinMo ROMS I realised the best rom I ever flashed was an Android ROM and I didn't even flashed it (yet). That's why I need NAND.

Ok, now seriously, I already donated $10. Where is NAND? I'm beginning to think this donation thing is delaying NAND. Just think for one minute. What does Cotulla and company do with all the money they're getting? BEER. Coder + Beer = Win95!!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] inny2:
Im pretty sure that if you walk around the center of the town you live for 3-4kms you will find plenty of coins on the ground to make up your 10euros. Go!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Monrad:
Obviously its much easier to code!! I can program NAND myself with my eyes closed. Of course I'm not doing it.I'm too busy collecting those coins i donated before :(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rr5678:
oh really? Into the NAND sweatshop you go. :p