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[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
YIKES

8h 55m 56s since unplugged

android OS 50%

display 34%

cell standby 5%

vr tunnel lite 5%

phone idle 4%

android system 2%

Battery = DEAD.

terrible stats I think, and I'm rather annoyed, however most things are set to sync every hour which I don't need at all. Also, this is my first android so I have no idea of how to set everything up so that the phone is actually idle. I was at work all day and I used the phone to check facebook twice, very quick checks, and send 2 emails, no phone calls nothing, I don't even have that vr tunnel live wallpaper on so why that used anything I don't know.

This was from first charge so we'll see how it goes, in the meantime could someone please point me to a good guide for setting up my phone so that when it's idle, it's actually idle. I shall be turning off all background syncing anyway, as I don't need it at all apart from email.

Thanks guys.
[Desire HD General] Basil3:
I had terrible battery life, but now on my 4th battery cycle and things are improving. I'm currently 8hrs running with 40% battery left. I was dead after this time yesterday.

Your android OS stats are excessively high....my highest usage is display at 57%, don't have android OS in the list...
[Desire HD General] MaybachMan:
Yeah, you always gotta cycle new batteries a bit before the life gets decent.

Hey, how's the MicroSD card that came with the phone? Is it s**t like the Nokia ones?
[Desire HD General] tomegranate:
Just got off the phone to T-Mobile, mine will be arriving tomorrow afternoon. Do I get a special badge for joining the club?

Also: hello.
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
I read that charging with the phone off may make a difference, is this true or (as I would think) a load of BS?
[Desire HD General] combat goofwing:
its hackable :)
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
I bought the official HTC desire HD screen protecters... SP P430
[Desire HD General] dai_griff:
gumobile.com have the phone in stock but can't dispatch till 22nd Oct because of a HTC embargo :(
[Desire HD General] Kkozi:
The battery needs the cycles. It will be better. I believe :-)

I got a question. Can you write fast on the HD's touchscreen? I've never had a touchscreen phone. I'm currently using a blackberry bold and writing is pleasure. I'm a little afraid of writing on the touchscreen. Would be Desire Z better?
[Desire HD General] Basil3:
You can definitely write fast on the touchscreen, just takes some getting used to. I went from a touch pro with a physical keyboard to a hero, and I must admit I missed the keyboard for a couple of weeks. After that I never looked back.
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
Yeah I received a mail from them yesterday :(
[Desire HD General] amczee:
how long ago did you order your DHD from TMOB? I ordered mine yesterday - just wondered if you have been waiting outside of the 'allow 10days for delivery' period as posted on their website?
[Desire HD General] eboni:
I am not into ridiculing certain individuals but in the end if we provide HTC with this information they 'may' sort out their next release so it isn't such a disorganised mess.
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
They ship to Germany. I got this answer on ebay!
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
This topic is being viewed by people all over the world, at least Europe. People in different countries, using different mobile networks etc. SO CAN WE PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT T-MOBILE!!!??? Start a new topic FFS! I'm getting sick of reading pages about T-mobile delivery dates, how many minutes someone has to wait for their phone etc. Please just post information about THE PHONE in this topic now, as we approach 100 pages.

Regarding the battery... I'm just wondering about it being turned off/on during charge. MAYBE if the phone is ON, once it's finished it's charge does it start using the battery? Or does it continue on mains power?

I ask because someone said a while back that after an hour or something they had lost 30% of their power. Had the phone been using it all night?

So if you put the phone on charge at 10pm and it finishes at midnight, when you wake up at 7am has the battery been used for 7 hours already?

Hence leaving the fone OFF might help?

Not sure how this can be tested.
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
i have to agree about your T-Mobile comments Gemeen. I don't live in the UK so those comments to me are worthless. And i suspect the majority of people reading through this thread are not T-Mobile subscribers.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
The person I bought the phone off ordered last thursday and it came today
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
opps :cool: ok Ill shut up, Ill hold my hands up and say I am a bit guilty of that subject, im just excited to get it tomorrow, ill change the subject now, battery life is way more important i agree
[Desire HD General] Milini:
Absolutely Agree.
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
i meant my comment in the nicest way possible btw :D
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Yeah I know you did mate..:)
[Desire HD General] mark wild:
To the DHD owners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

there are floating many video samples in 720p recorded with the DHD, but NONE with somebody talking while filming, god damed, i need to hear a human voice while filming in 720p, because that is the only way how we really can tell about the sound quality in the record. Everyone knows how a human voice sounds and must sound and, must say, till now, the best in sound and video quality, that i have seen floating around the tubes and inter-webs is filmed with the SGS.

...

Bottom line. To put my worries @ rest, can someone record himself TALKING normal, than quiet, than loud to get an idea?

...

You can say something in your native language, i don't care, as long as it is a human voice.

...

PLEASE!
[Desire HD General] jasecs:
i wonder if anyone of you read this before...not sure how reliable...but its something for everyone.thanks whirlpool forum australia:P

http://electricpig.co.uk/2010/10/19...ing+tech+news+site)&utm_content=Google+Reader
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
I concur with the battery issue. Although please bear in mind that the device has now technically only be powered on for little over 24hrs. As I have stated before, I have 2 devices ordered. I plan on playing around with this device testing things and keeping an eye on the battery.

Once my new device arrives I am going to give it a full 6 hour charge before I even turn it on and continue to perform routine full drains and charges over a few days to see if it lasts any longer than the device I have that Im testing (because I know I have not properly charged it yet at all)

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Your-Cell-Phone-Battery-Last-Longer
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
OK so as you know this test device did not get a full chare. When I got it I took turned it on and went straight to work. At work I plugged it into PC and started updating/tweaking/installing. I left it connected to PC pretty much until 17:00. I then cam home started seeting up Wifi and installing / tweaking some more. I think last night by 12:00 the battery was almost dead.

I charged it using wall charger, with screen on Digital Clock, from approx 12:00 to 08:00. Today I installed a few more apps and played around wit some more things, but did not do heavy usage. By 17:30 the battery died, and I mean beeped for 15% - 10% - 5% then shut off (hibernated). Generally speaking I had GPS enabled and Exchange Email pushing mail during day and another Gmail on 15min sync, no Facebook / Twitter any of that.....

From approx 18:00 I had the device on wall charge (screen completely off) and it is now showing Fully charged. I will report back on how this goes.

...Also does anyone know how to actually stop apps launching themselves? I have noticed that Amazon MP3, Facebook for HTC Sense, Flickr, Friend Stream, Maps, Market, Music, Peep and Stocks all show in running applications without me activating them (and I have both ES Task Manager and Task Manager running with these apps set to auto-kill). I think this could drain battery somewhat also.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
A very good update and thanks for investigating this further, I look forward to seeing how the battery does from its full charge
[Desire HD General] MrGarak:
Ditto! Interesting to get a few different experiences from people.
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
New test required please

Please can someone test for me... if you use IMAP or Exchange email and you send an email... is the SENT MAIL stored (or copied) to the SERVER or only locally???

I need to know about both Exchange AND imap account. Do either or both of them (or neither) store sent mail on the server?

Or can rules be set up to copy to IMAP folder after send?

Huge mucho thankioso!
[Desire HD General] bobbyphoenix:
It's a Google thing. All pre-installed apps auto run. There is no way to stop them. Using a task killer will only increase battery drain because as soon as it kills the apps, they will start right back up, and you will be in a cycle of killing them over and over.
[Desire HD General] WarheadNOR:
Dose it come with that "Block caller" app? Would really come in handy!
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Yes it does :)
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Lol riiiight nice one Google. So we are either stuck with:

Option1:

Leave all unnecessary apps running, draining battery and eating RAM

Option2:

Use a task manager to auto-kill unnecessary apps, only to have them relaunch endlessly consuming even more battery but leaving a bit more free RAM

hmmm, hard choice to make here......RAM or battery. :p
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
No choice to make... cos RAM will be used either way. Each time the app starts it will eat the RAM and then ditch it when it's killed.

There will be a lot of battery used if this is the case. I would uninstall the app killer or stop it doing it's business.

If someone could test with and without app killer, see how battery performance compares, that would be REALLY handy.

So far has anyone managed to get a FULL DAY out of this battery?
[Desire HD General] paulo.patricio:
[Q] Buy where and price?

Regards

Patricio
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Using my Exchange Mail I cannot see that my sent emails are being saved anywhere (device or exchange account sent folder). I do not have the option 'always bcc me' on though.....
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
...Also does anyone know how to actually stop apps launching themselves? I have noticed that Amazon MP3, Facebook for HTC Sense, Flickr, Friend Stream, Maps, Market, Music, Peep and Stocks all show in running applications without me activating them (and I have both ES Task Manager and Task Manager running with these apps set to auto-kill). I think this could drain battery somewhat also.[/QUOTE]

Yes there are ways to do that:

Make sure that you don't use widgets that use these services.

Option No.1: This is what I'm experimenting with.

Get temp. root.; Download Visonary App from Market, Run and voila... Temporary Root. Next: Download Autostarts from Market. You can use this app to stop Apps from launching themselves!

Thread on Visionary Tool: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=808514

Option No.2

Read this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=809231
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Thanks but I'm not referring to BCC. Surely there is a SENT ITEMS folder or similar on the handset where you can see the emails you've sent.

I'm interested if these are stored locally or in a specified IMAP folder (or exchange folder).

They have to be somewhere.

It's a real ball-ache having to copy over all your mails every month or so (I have around 20 business mail accounts to check so it takes ages).

Thanks
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Battery Status update:

OK so it is now 23:13, which is approx 2 hours since I removed the device from charge with a full battery. I have had the usual Exchange and Gmail running, pretty much not doing much, disabled background activity and turned of the Task Manager autokill service, and have used in total approx 15 solid minutes of Wifi use. Battery is currently at 79% - that's 21% drain in 2 hours of not doing much at all.

Unfortunately I will have to be heading to sleep soon, so I will leave on charge during sleep (I really need it for work) and will keep an eye on it all tomorrow - trying o do as little as I possibly can to see just how much battery is used by idle use.
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Nope, well not that I am aware of. Yeah I can check any of my exchange folders that I have set up but I cannot see any 'default' sent items folder for the device......maybe I'm wrong, like I said Im new to Android

Edit: disregard what I just said. There seems to have been an issue with my data connection, after connecting to Wifi and syncng all sent items now show up when selecting the Sent folder
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Cheers for that info Black. I will look into this when my vodafone contract handset eventually arrives - I don't want to go about doing any 'tweks / hacks' to this device as I'm going to return it. Will let you know how it goes when I get my VF device and try these options ;)
[Desire HD General] CEPi:
Desire HD in Dubai

Hi all,

Any news yet is DHD available in Dubai shops yet? I'll be there in a few days, so i thought i'd beat the que and price in UK.

Cheers.
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Thanks for that. So if you access your Exchange mail from a PC do you see the emails in your Sent Items that you sent from your phone? Or do they not appear?

It used to be that in Exchange (on a PC) mail would save locally when sent (so when your PC died you lost all sent mail). Outlook 2007 fixed that it seems. In Outlook 2007 you can also set IMAP to save Sent mail to the IMAP account (rather than a folder locally again).
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
News article about the proximity sensor...

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/70336/htc-desire-hd-gebruikers-klagen-over-problemen-met-sensors.html

For those who can't read Dutch, use google toolbar to translate it. You can also see a demo in the video.

Does anyone remember what page the Poll was on about problems? I want to see where it's up to and how many people have this problem. I'll be really miffed-off if I have to post it back (15 euro postage?). Grrrr
[Desire HD General] GrimStranger:
Don't use a task killer. It skills your battery and your precious time.

This is a common misconception about Android (and possibly all modern mobile OS's): the need to kill processes (that are idle) that take up memory. When what really kill battery power are processes that take up CPU time.

A good read about this on Reddit:

reddit .com/r/Android/comments/cwhm6/i_stopped_using_a_task_killer_last_week_to_see_if/[/url]

A good program to monitor this, Watchdog: lifehacker .com/5608163/watchdog-monitors-your-android-for-run+away-processes

If you really want to understand how Android manages memory, check out the official blog:

android-developers.blogspot. com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html

Look for the section "When does an applicaton 'stop'?"

P.S. you need to remove the white space before ".com". I can't post external links yet.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Very useful, Ill try not using one and see, I always have, looks like we have all been fooled..

Straight Link - http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/cwhm6/i_stopped_using_a_task_killer_last_week_to_see_if/
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Just had my Desire HD delivered to my door YIPPEE !!...I'll have a good play with it and write a small review later today......:D:D
[Desire HD General] latte33:
Oh good for you... i still have to wait for next week....:mad:
[Desire HD General] qrojtz:
Still no one who could take 10 seconds and take a quick peak under settings - sd card/internal memory and tell us how much of the internal memory there is left? It doesn't matter if it's not out of the box, a rough estimation is appreciated.

300-500mb, 500-700mb 700-900mb, 1gb, less, more? Anyone? Please?
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
i saw someone has already answered your question in a previous post, you gota go back and search for it.
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
dude charge it for 8 hours before first use :D
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Yeah...easier said than done that :D
[Desire HD General] mbgy42:
Battery first charge

Hi - Just a quick question - Why do we need to charge the battery for 8 hours before first use. It is my understanding that Li-ion batteries don't respond to conditioning charges and don't have a memory effect. Is there some other benefit I am not aware of?
[Desire HD General] qrojtz:
That is so weird I'm not able to find it. I've searched and I've browsed and yet I've found nothing. The only memory questions I can find that is answered is about RAM and however there is one model with 4gb or not.

Could you please point me in the right direction?
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
I have just under 1gb on internal memory, with a few apps installed. There you go mate.
[Desire HD General] Linnyuk:
It's about 0.96GB internal storage out of the box.
[Desire HD General] qrojtz:
That's brilliant!

Thank you very much for that!
[Desire HD General] nicholasbgr:
The apps are not "running". As you're new to Android, you should read this:

http://www.droid-den.com/android-guides/android-guide-should-i-use-a-task-killer
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
Hey folks, I posted this in the phone finder thread but it seems no-one is reading that so I shall ask here whether anyone has phone finder on htcsense.com actually working, mine keeps telling me that it is disabled in settings but that is simply not the case, any advice appreciated.

Cheers guys.
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
This one is good as well:

http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...r/full+(Lifehacker)&utm_content=Google+Reader
[Desire HD General] Ashour:
Hello and congrats to all who owns it.

Can someone test VPN setting on the DHD please?
[Desire HD General] apprentice:
It seems that not everything is functioning just yet on HTCSense.com as I have had some stuff working then failing and vice versa.

When I first registered the "Make my phone ring" service worked but now doesn't. The location finder stated incorrectly that I had not got the setting on my phone checked, but now it does actually show a map on the dashboard albeit stating that I am about 2000 miles away from where I actually am!

I trust this service is not completely up and running properly or they really are over saturated by new users. Either way I am certain it'll work eventually and be very useful.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
sssshhhh that an invite to all thieves to hurry up and pinch our phones before sense.com is working and we can locate our phones...hahaha
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
I have registered with htcsense.com and originally the Ring Phone option did work (didnt want to try the Lock Phone or Erase Phone options quite yet lol). The Phone Finder tool has never worked as yet and constantly shows my device waaaaay off...
[Desire HD General] venkig:
they are having all kinda issue with htcsense.com. Today I was unable to load PEOPLE tab and it constantly said Load failed, no matter which browser or which network I used.

Something broken in htcsense.com? Do you guyz have issue loading the contact under PEOPLE ?
[Desire HD General] dhanjel:
My only concern about this device right now is the screen.

Can you (lucky) guys with devices confirm or comment about the screen.

Any issues or negative thoughts at all?

(Battery is a concern as well though, but it will likely pop up third party batteries with better mAh)
[Desire HD General] dai_griff:
gummobile.com have just confirmed they are shipping tomorrow.

Happy days after a well **** week!
[Desire HD General] ergath:
Phones4U , Birmingham (Bull Ring branch) UK have "some" in stock today for £449. I've had one put aside for me to pick up later today, if anyone else wants to check if they've got stock you can call on 0121 643 2342.
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
It has been mentioned a few times that the screen is great. I like it's colour reproduction, but I guess it comes down to personal taste, I used a friend's Samsung galaxy S and didn't like the colour repro. at all, it was way over-saturated for my tastes. Veiwing angles are absolutely fine and direct sunlight is not a problem at all. And lets not forget that it's nice and big, and suits my big hands perfectly.
[Desire HD General] jamieeeee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqm5_ye-o8o

made with my desire hd in a dark environment with only the screen light. i think it looks okay, just a shame it adjusts to light changes so bad..
[Desire HD General] Otterjasie:
I've got the exact same problem....
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
Same here! Also doesn't sync contacts and messages. I can make the phone ring however!:confused:
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
2 replies here...

1] Yeahhtcsense.com is having all sorts of issues. I did, initially, have all features working (Ring Phone, People, HTC Hub). Now nothing seems to work at all.....maybe they came across a few bugs with those (including myself) who have recieed their devices first. I'm happy they are doing this before handsets are widespread, ironing out the problems.

2] QUIT ASKING ABOUT THE FREAKIN SCREEN !

There have been many, many, many, replies about the screen all good reports. One last time, here is my report on it:

Size: 10/10 simply stunning amount of screen space for reading/browsing/gaming/navigation . Any more and it would be uncomfortable to hold and any less is, well, less lol

Brightness: 10/10 even in very sunny days - this is the only device I have actually been able to see the screen perfectly during sunlight

Colours: 9/10 for my personal preference I would have like just a slightly higher saturation (but i think this is down to the resolution / lower pixel density)

Resolution: 9/10 again, my personal preference is that I think they could have upped the resolution just a little - even iPhone can provide 960 x 640

Outcome - brilliantly amazed. Any failings on the screen I would put down to ever-so-slightly low pixel density. Regardless of whether or not it's LCD S-LCD or AMOLED - this screen is just amazing! (and I have held Desire HD and Iphone 3GS and 4 side-by-side........still prefer the Desire HD)
[Desire HD General] kingkeld:
But what about the screen? Is it LCD? :)

...sorry, could not resist. I too am sick and tired of the frickin' screen questions. Talk about beating a dead horse...
[Desire HD General] Golgo:
While it's comforting to read your happy with the screen, I have to say your comments come of as slightly bias...

I mean, saying you prefer the display on the DHD over the iPhone4? Although I would agree the size is to small on the iPhone its display is unmatched by any other device. Pretty much a fact.

I don't like iPhones and would likely never buy one but damn... Apple knows how to make a high quality display.
[Desire HD General] Golgo:
Nice to have you here answering are many questions, clock :)

How is it that you have a DHD already?
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
The power off (hold powerbutton and choose power off) takes some time (measures:....5 seconds). The powerup then takes 1 or 1,5 seconds. Very quick!

The restart (really a power off and a cold reboot) takes about 30 seconds.

Edit: apps are NOT closed during the hibernate/poweroff. Only with a full restart all apps are closed.
[Desire HD General] eddyrick:
That's still impressingly fast :D
[Desire HD General] thecasimir:
as I could see no front camera ... no visio calls :-(
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
No front camera indeed..

On it's way. Post will be edited when complete
[Desire HD General] vovanopulo:
Clock1932

Hello - can you please check if alarm is able to awake a turned-off phone?

More - If the phone is in silent mode does an alarm override it?

I wonder if it works as on Nokia.
[Desire HD General] Overloaded:
How is the multi touch on the device?

I played a pong game on a Desire once, and it was pretty bad. When i moved my pong pedal thing, the other one moved too.. I heard the DHD has 4 multi touch points, can you confirm this?
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
thank you for confirming that it has an arabic keyboard, but in can you please visit an Arabic website and take a screen shot of it, it's important because the way of the language is written. the website is www.google.com.sa