yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] SXUsr:
Might have a go at it then....

....and thanks to this might be a little easier to change. I thought it had something to do with the colour codes but if they are backwards no wonder it's confusing.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Bazza1976:
The one's i posted are for the pull down bar iam working on the services.jar and odex now for my black theme.

As have to change a few other xml's in other apk's as well to get all visible.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] SXUsr:
Thanks for clearing that up, will save me some time.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] egyptshun:
Please check out my forum on abstract se wallpapers, it has everything you need
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thepiecesfit:
Anyone know why the evo is browser loads mobile websites despite setting to Desktop as user agent . Reason I ask is I cant get it to load full websites even with mobile view disabled. I tried running about:debug and setting the user agent to desktop , but still no dice.

www.whatsmyuseragent.com
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jon:
Not sure about changing the user agent so much but perhaps the website still sees you are using an android phone/browser and displays that website.

It's not necessarily the browsers fault, the website may have something that checks what you are using and brings you to the proper version of the website based on what it determines.
[Droid Incredible General] metallicavix:
Has anyone else had trouble with the camera and camcorder app not working if so what did you do ?
[Droid Incredible General] dpwhitty11:
Try updating your radio.
[Droid Incredible General] superchilpil:
Rom?? Please specify your setup so we can help better
[Droid Incredible General] metallicavix:
Stock Verizon 2.2
[Droid Incredible General] luvit:
Try clearing camera cache and data.
[Droid Incredible General] metallicavix:
Did that ... something to do with the SD card because it works when I save the video to the phone memory
[Droid Incredible General] qmartman711:
so did you try a different sd card? Try formatting another one as FAT32..or format a sdcard from your phone-settings..phone and sd card storage...format sd card.
[Droid Incredible General] metallicavix:
I think I'm gonna do that I am just gonna save everything on my computer
[G2 and Desire Z General] crazythunder:
i don't even have a g2 and in no way intend to disrespect any of the hard working devs. but, how many people are pissed off that there is no root yet? not pissed at the devs, but at the measures htc has taken to lock us out. maybe it really is a bug in the chip. what if it never gets rooted? how many people would be extremely mad and sell their g2? like i stated, i don't even own one,but have been into the scene for quite a few years. so i read the g2 thinktank everyday. part of me is always hoping i'll see that it was permanently rooted. but it just doesn't look good. i check everyday because i'll eventually be upgrading my phone soon. and i'd like to rest assured that if these measures are taken on future phones, that the devs will know how to hack it sooner.

anyone think it's never gonna happen? i hope it does. i'm just not used to seeing this being such a huge problem.
[G2 and Desire Z General] KShatzkes:
It will happen. Give it time. The world was not built in a day.
[G2 and Desire Z General] slambaz2:
The phone is still very good even though it isn't rooted yet, and will become a better phone when it is.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lemeja:
I'm pretty much like you, I check the root thread multiple times a day. I really respect those guys.
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijizai:
People said this same thing about the cat and mouse games on the iPhones, Droid X, etc... See how long those lasted? A few weeks? A few months?

History has shown, given the time and determination, there is no consumer cell phone that cannot be hacked.

I hate that they lock us out of our devices, but they are appliances. This happens in the business world all the time. They do it to 'improve' the device by not allowing you to muff it up.

Either way, we will crack the protection mechanisms, or find overflow exploits, etc... to make it happen.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xile6:
give it time. anything and everything can be cracked with enough time. plus temp root via visionary works great. We truly only need prem root for custom roms and themes
[G2 and Desire Z General] manny0:
Yea... look at the ps3 lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] donutman:
bad example because that took extremely long.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bigstunta101:
nah, root on this phone is impossible, it just wont happen. all devs should just give up and everyone sell you g2's --note the sarcasm, lifes full of it -- :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] jordanjay29:
AFAIK, to date, the Droid X's recovery chip that prevents custom roms has yet to be defeated. Poor example there, I think.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xdviper:
True. The Droid X still can not load custom roms. I'm thinking we're probably going to be the same way. But there's no fun without Cyanogens mods. Ughhhh
[G2 and Desire Z General] HamNCheese:
Honestly, 80% of what CyanogenMod brings (aside from bugfixes and optimizations) can be accomplished with full root access to the system.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kgold708:
I think at least some of the Devs see this as a direct challenge to their authority. This is the G2 after all. Root will happen. Droid X comparison is apples and oranges, this is the sequel to the first android device ever! This is where we make our stand or all is lost.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kgold708:
Having stated the above I think HTC, G, and maybe even T-mo are watching this device. Maybe its just to slow down the Devs long enough to push 3.0 . G may try with 3.0 to stop Android fragmentation by offering a huge leap forward. I mean the G1 to G2 jump is mind blowing to me and it seems like a gift to us early adoptors of Android, I want root but the G2 is stunning to me even stock. Just thinking outloud.
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijizai:
Not true... the chip was defeated.

http://phandroid.com/2010/08/30/first-droid-x-custom-rom-released-with-installation-instructions/

http://phandroid.com/2010/08/30/the-droid-x-runs-a-custom-rom-see-for-yourself/

http://www.androidcentral.com/sapphire-custom-rom-running-droid-x

http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/08/30...ready-for-manual-install-here’s-how-to-do-it/
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
We'll get root eventually. Its only a matter of time.

Sent from my HTC Vision G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
People are seriously tripping here. If Android can be ported to the HD2 of all devices, then the G2 can get rooted. Even if it doesn't big deal, it may just be me, but this is the first time I've been satisfied with a phones performance on the stock rom. Its faster and more consistent than any phone I've owned.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jordanjay29:
Ahh, my bad. Thank you, I don't think I ever heard this news. Must have been pretty hush-hush stuff.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kidd657:
This is the truth. I sat and thought hard about what really made me put CM6 on my G1 .. i came to the conclusion that my g1 just wasnt up to par with all of the newer androids. but now i am completely happy with my G2 even on stock. therefore i dont mind waiting for root or if it even happens.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schwiz:
I'm nervous.
[G2 and Desire Z General] supergear:
The reason for the lockout is probably to stop the casual user from bricking their phones.In time the G2 may get rooted if it doesn't oh well. On my Vibrant the only reason i would put a custom rom on was to try to fix the bugs and such. I don't need that with the G2 as there aren't that many bugs that bother me at all. Only would want root to remove the apps i don't use at all.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schwiz:
No thats bull****, the casual user isn't going to download the android sdk and accidently type

fastboot oem unlock

into their console while in fastboot mode.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Chip haven't been defeated. You are still bound to the kernel of the currently installed official Motorola firmware. Chip is still working and still protecting the kernel. The only kernel you can run is the official Motorola kernel.

The thing you linked is a custom update.zip, which can replace everything - except the most important thing, the kernel. This kind of update can bring UI improvements, you can get rid of installed apps - but you can't upgrade to OS Motorola doesn't give you.

As a example look at Motorola Milestone - we have the Froyo UI on top of the 2.1 kernel from the current Milestone 2.1-update1 official firmware. And until Motorola releases the official Froyo for Milestone, we won't have the real Froyo. So if Motorola doesn't release 3.0 for Droid X, then all you can do is run 3.0 UI on top of 2.2 kernel - if it will work at all (= if UI will not be dependent on some features of kernel).

Next time do your research before posting incorrect info. You can research the current status of "defeating the chip" at http://and-developers.com/

The latest update of 2ndboot was 2 months ago, which says something about the possibility of it :

http://bitbucket.org/droiddev/2ndboot/overview

In short - Droid X, Droid 2, Milestone 1 and Milestone 2 haven't been broken and won't be for long time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bigstunta101:
lol this post here made me feel like picking up a gun and rebelling against t-mo n htc. FOR SPTARTAAAAA!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijizai:
We share slightly different opinions on what consists a defeat of the protection, but I understand your viewpoint.

Correct, there are some things that cannot be done, but I consider the ability to install custom ROMs a defeat of the protection mechanism. For most users, this is all they want or need, and an equivocal step forward on the G2 would likely satisfy most of the community for some time to come. The hardcore among us would, of course, be dissatisfied.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Blackman778g:
Very well put... maybe now people with start realizing why they should stay away from Moto products if they want root. This is mainly the reason why my G1 is still here running.... 2.2! :)

F Moto... But HTC better not start pulling the same S**T as Moto and all the other carriers do.... they will lose alot of buisness[PERIOD].. lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] kgold708:
Indeed sir... If the G2 stays locked I fear we'll never see an unlocked Android device again.:(
[G2 and Desire Z General] xdviper:
Not necessarily true, other manufactors should and probably will release unlocked bootloaders on phones. Such as the nexus one. Let's just hope we can get this badboy unlocked. I'm really hoping and praying it does. Just to overclock and run some benchmarks and get more juice out the battery.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
The only parts ever protected by signature check were the bootloader and the kernel (see the booting process description : http://and-developers.com/boot:boot_chain ). You can't say "chip has been defeated" when all you done is replacing the parts not protected by the chip.

The articles about the Droid X on phandroid and some other sites actually made me angry. We, Milestone users warned everyone that you won't get custom ROMs with custom kernels anytime soon. We have been called with every possible name, that we are dumb, the protection will be broken soon etc etc. Then when the root come out, they said - look, they broken the protection. Then we explained them that root, custom userland update.zip and custom ROMs are 3 different things. Then the custom userland come out (the thing you linked) and again we were called by all sort of names, that we are dumb, look, protection is broken, we have custom ROMs. And we again explained that you have no custom ROMs, just custom userland via the standard update backup mechanism, so no protection is broken.

The guys at and-developers started working on 2ndboot solution (the motorola kernel loads a module which reloads another, newer custom kernel which then takes control) 4 months ago, and they still didn't solved it. What makes you think they will be able to solve it before the real custom ROMs will be really needed (because Motorola will say goodbye to you) ?

I wonder if you will be still satisfied when Motorola ceases support for your device while still in warranty (i have a warranty for the phone up until end of february 2012). That is going to happen with Milestone soon. I will get my 2.2 at the end of the year (maybe) and then nothing, end, finito. No more updates from Motorola, and because of signed kernel, no more updates from community. Yes, they can put some mascara (aka 3.0 UI, 3.5 UI) on top of the Motorola signed kernel (2.2) for some time, but it will never be a true update to next Android like you can still do with all phones from G1 up to Motorola Droid. And with time, it will be more and more broken. For example MotoFrenzy (Froyo for Milestone on top of 2.1-update1's kernel) has bugs because of kernel too - "Video Recorder + camera focus/audio" doesn't work. Yes, right now it is just the video camera, but what next time. Maybe the radio ? Maybe the GPS ? When will it cross the line when you say enough ?

I'm absolutelly not happy about the root situation of the Vision (G2/Desire Z) either. Still i give HTC more hope due the fact that the protection is not as crazy as Motorola's. While in case of Motorola, the kernel key signature is checked, in case of HTC only the update file signature is checked. Once the guys figure out how can write to eMMC, then it's done, root, custom ROMs with custom kernels - all done.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ImSoHungry:
This made me lol big time! Good point.
[G2 and Desire Z General] clintj:
I think it's hilarious that they gave me a T-Mobile apps magazine when I bought the G2 and in the top paid apps they have at number 8 or so: "ROM Manager - Specifically for root users..." as they sell me there so far unrootable phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] texasaggie1:
I'm not worried. Root will come. When the mytouch 3g came out people were saying it couldn't be rooted. Right now I have temp root with enomthers rom and its frickin awesome.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sundar2012:
Having owned a motorola cliq which took FOREVER to root and having had a lot of experience working with my girlfriend's droid x, I am certain this phone will get root soon. Especially because so many top notch developers (including cyanogen) are on the case. With the cliq, it took a lot of guys with not as much experience to learn from scratch and then root - and with that phone (which btw is still running android 1.5 stock) there was in imperative to get root and flash eclaire.

If the droid x can be flashed with custom roms (and it is a main in the ass imho with the bootloader hijack and numerous battery pulls) then the g2 will get it. Besides, this is an htc phone.

The good new is once we get root, I dont think it will be hard to port any updates to android and/or custom roms. with motorola phones with motoblur, the blur is part of the kernel and custom roms need to either have blur or the kerenl has to be rewritten. its just a matter of time before we have gingerbread aosp on this thing.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
No, it can't be. No bootloader hijack, nothing like that. Right now all you can do is update the non-kernel parts of the firmware

Yes, because to get permament root on G2, you need to have write access to eMMC, which means you can write the ROM without the standard firmware upgrade software.

Motoblur is just a UI, same as Sense our Touchwiz. It has nothing to do with the kernel. The problem with Motorola phones is that you can have only official Motorola kernels, because only Motorola has the signing keys for them. That means you are stuck at whatever kernel Motorola releases as last for your Motorola device.
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Just wait a while until Europe join to the G2/Desire Z root :) We are still waiting for release. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] sundar2012:
Obviously you know more about this than me so hopefully you can clarify a few points.

Are you talking about the droid x here? in order to boot into a custom recovery you have to hijack the bootloader process using this app: koushikdutta dot com slash 2010/08/droid-x-recovery dot html

The point I was trying to make is that the droid x was thought to be unrootable and in some assbackwards ways the developer community has managed to do some cool things with it. Certainly permanent root has been achieved.

Don't we still need signing keys for upgrades? Or are you saying that if you have access to eMMC, it doesn't really matter?

I was under the impression that certain blur services were directly tied to the kernel such that the phone won't boot android if these are removed and/or permanently disabled. This is why its been so hard to get a truly blurless rom on the cliq, but someone deblurred the kernel. I don't think that this is the case with sense or touchwiz. BLUR is not simply a skin/launcher/home replacement.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Citation from that site :

So in short - it's still the same as with Milestone. The specifics of the process can be different between Droid X and Milestone (Milestone uses OpenRecovery), in the end it is still a backup of someone's running system, which you "flash" on your system, thus replacing your original non-kernel parts with his customized ones. The exact way how to do it is irrelevant, the point is that kernel is a fixed point which you cannot modify - and that limits the use of the phone. It is ok until Motorola releases newer Android versions, but once they stop or are late compared to other manufacturers, then you are stuck with what you have. No way to move forward if the new functionality in newer Android versions depend on functionality not present in your latest official Motorola kernel.

Droid X was thought to be unrootable ? I don't think so. The only thing you could see everywhere was warning about the bootloader and kernel, which was already a problem in europe with the Motorola Milestone, which had root since start, but there was no way to have true ROMs including own kernel because of Motorola signature check. And this is still true for Milestone 1/2, Droid 2 and Droid X too. You are stuck with Motorola kernel, no escape path so far.

Right now you can't write to the embedded memory card (eMMC) because it is write protected. Only the firmware updater can unlock it and write to it. But that firmware updater checks signatures of every file in the update file. So the guys working on this are trying to get a write access to the eMMC. Once you have this, you will skip the official firmware updater and use your own. And in that moment you will not need the signing keys - because the updater will not check them anymore.

Blur is a "UI enhancement", not a kernel feature. That doesn't mean system can't check for it's presence, and reject to boot if it is not there. But it is not part of the kernel. Kernel is the part of the system which allows you to communicate with the devices in your system, not part of UI. Just think, how can be there a custom update for Motorola Milestone with blur, when the original Motorola firmware is blur-less and you can't replace the kernel.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xdviper:
Let me get this straight, in order to overclock, there needs to be changes in the kernel, so if the motorola and or htc kernel is still there, and even with perm root we can not overclock or underclock our phones?
[G2 and Desire Z General] ZeroSX:
Perm root means eMMC is in r/w means custom kernels means overclocking.
[G2 and Desire Z General] moSess:
Some thoughts

Your response to that post is understood but scary:D

Lots info there:)

I think the community is strong and if a trend develops we will have to use that strength to show disapproval in any way we can. These communities are worldwide and vast, with a huge collective purchasing power, as well as intellectual power. We must remain mindful of these things.:cool:
[G2 and Desire Z General] ocm7:
Being a Cliq user myself, and a long term Motorola customer/fan I can say that the time it took to root the Cliq, and the current development on it isn't really due to the complications of the mechanism itself. It's mostly lack of developers. Now, HTC on the other hand has respectable modders such as cyanogen. I won't go ahead and say for sure that the phone will be rooted (Some systems like P2K05 on Motorola were just proven to be impossible to bypass) but my hopes are up. I'm just waiting until (hopefully) it gets rooted so i can buy one and ditch Moto. They messed up the android world standards big time imo.
[Android Software Development] mobile-freak:
Hello Developers,

i have one question in my opinion a very interesssting.

Is it possible to cook a rom like

taking htc rom port to dell streak and in the htc sense rom a feature of motorola rom and a feature of samsungs ??

I am sorry for my english.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] truegrass:
for android?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smokestacknj:
i like lookout
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hungry Man:
Common sense.

Antiviruses on android phones are useless since:

a) Browsing the internet won't give you a virus

b) You have full control of downloads

c) It's linux based anyways

Any applications that monitor security are essentially just checking permissions, which you can do yourself when you install your apps. All those applications will do is give you a false sense of security while simultaneously using up RAM.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KarateExplosion6:
+1

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snowboardkid503:
Can anyone help me to make my own roms or show me how to please and thank you
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bluebeast213:
I'll help you get started. Look up "Evo kitchen". From the sound of it, the online one would probably be your best bet.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snowboardkid503:
Alright I really appreciate your help and ill look it when I get to my girl house
[Captivate General] jj211981:
Ok so i got froyo 2.2 cognition loaded onto my phone. I switched to kernel jtaek or something from when i rooted the phone. It was working ok at first but then android.phone kept force closing. I installed it using clockwork recovery mod. So i decided, let me try another one. So i tried to switch kernels so i could load sheps ROM. I downloaded JI6kernel2e and renamed it update .zip put it on the internal sd and used clockwork recovery to install from sd card. After that my phones gone silly. For a while it would only loop into recovery mode. In recovery mode i try to reinstall packages and it says it fails every time. So now I'm not sure what to do I'm afraid i really messed it up. I can get to download mode but can only get to the old school ODIN, not the one click. Or i can go to recovery I tried to delete the cache and user data and that did't do anything. Now it just loops from the at&t logo to the galaxy s logo then shuts off. Any help would be very appreciated!!!!
[Captivate General] Pirateghost:
holy hell.....

dude, you shouldnt be flashing anything.

seriously, why would you rename the kernel to update.zip and try to flash it?

you need to go back to stock, i dont understand you saying you can get into reg odin but not one click??
[Captivate General] jj211981:
yes Odin i guess v 1.0 or something. Where you have to put in the PDA file and PIT file? I finally got the one click root to download. Yeah i F$&*#@ up pretty bad. I'm not that familiar with Android yet. Coming from Windows and a tilt 2. Ok so I held both volume buttons plugged in the USB, then pressed the power till the second black screen of the phone exclamation computer symbol. Odin recognizes it and the phone shows the triangle with the android, says downloading and do not turn off target. (download mode right)

Odin shows

<ID:0/005> Added!!

<ID:0/005> Odin v.3 engine (ID:5)..

<ID:0/005> Master Clear Started.....

This is the second time its done this for about 10 mins

Am I totally screwed?