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[Desire HD General] Prad001:
Cannot wait till Sitex and not sure if stocks will be sufficient enough to cater all!!!

Continued with my order in clove uk... finally its shipped should be receiving it on Monday.... ....;)

Need help... i know i need to pay gst but does anyone know i need to take telco clearance for this item..just called singtel they said nothing but DHL exec told me it might be needed!!!

Also singtel say they are still not sure of DHD release this month may be early next month.....
[Desire HD General] gottessohn:
There is no telco clearance.. Nexus one can work perfectly fine here, DHD should not have any problem too :) please give us your review after receiving your set from clove k? if possible, i may purchase one from them too.. How did you get your VAT refund?
[Desire HD General] LittleMerc:
I preordered from Expansys and the delay was again and again... Singapore I don't think we will be able to get it in short time... Malaysia wise I checked with some main distributors but they have no clue when DHD will be available there... Gonna get it from Ebay soon once the shipment arrives! Maybe we from Singapore (or Malaysia) can come out yumcha to discuss and share experiences for DHD? XD
[Desire HD General] Prad001:
Hi...sure will review it once i get it in my hand :o and coming to VAT its excluded , we need to pay gst once it arrives here!!!
[Desire HD General] hyocca:
Alright

Updates!

I was at challenger Funan yesterday.

Lady said it's confrimed comming in 1 weeks time.

I don't know if she's ****ting me, cause the AAA downstairs said end of november.

While the singtel dude on the 1st floor " shruged and said no idea "

I was at fareast plaza today.

This handphone shop, Directly Facing the entrance of the mall.

I spoke to the dude, he said they had HTC Desire HD.

It was selling at $960.

So he said, that i'll have to wait for half an hour.

He called and checked with the other outlet at " Jurong East "

Said that they sold out.

I do not know if this is a scam shop or what.

seriously look like those dudes from simlim square that said just the same thing when i told them i wanted a htc desire hd " come back half an hour later "

If Those HTC Retailers do not have it.

I guess it's export sets that these shops are carrying!
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
they probably have a central shop that has access to these exotic phones that they import so that's why they tell u to come back later while they check.

i also checked with StarHub's HTC promoter yesterday and the girl said end of Nov.. the waiting game continues...
[Desire HD General] LittleMerc:
These guys are definitely ****ting u. Come on, we all know most of the time they tell you they have it but actually they have no freaking idea what is a DHD. Anyways if u really got it let me know. Will fly down 2 check it out.
[Desire HD General] canboca:
guys i need a trusted phone shop name and address in Shanghai/China. My friend is going there in a week and i want to buy DHD but i can't trust sellers in China they can easily sell my friend a fake DHD. So i need your assistance. Tell me a place where i can send my friend and buy my DHD without concern.
[Desire HD General] gottessohn:
I think buying from challenger is better than those handphone shop.. I seriously think we will be able to get the phone after week 2 or 3 of nov :)
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
Hey Asian fellows, any update for Hong Kong sales dates?
[Desire HD General] auricom:
australia

this is taking too long for my liking..

There's been no words of DHD launch date here in Indonesia..

I'm gonna ask my brother in Australia to get it upright from Voda or 3 or any of the retail stores.. the difficult part is to find a person coming in to carry it.. no VAT, no hassle! :D:D

UPDATE:

turns out there is a seller in Indo who has a stocked DHD, selling for Rp8.5mill (approx S$1224) .. can you guys give me an opinion on the price, and -although I doubt it- some pointers to spot a fake product? thx.
[Desire HD General] hyocca:
i played a windows 7 phone yesterday, it is damn shiok.

This long wait for the desire hd is killing me firstly.

And i have been reading so much problems about desire hd.

I'm so looking in getting hd7.

what are your opinions?
[Desire HD General] auricom:
what made you like the WP7? are you sure it's not just eye candy?

I'm jumping ship to Android from iPhone even though I know there are more apps out there for the iOS. I'm not getting another iPhone with just faster processor and crisp display. I know at least iPhone 3G can still run most apps I buy in the future.

I think the Android app community has grown and mature enough for me to start using it (have compiled a list of some apps in appbrain so I can install them once i get my DHD).

The WP7 is very much in infancy right now that if you're buying a WP7 device, you're risking yourself as an early adopter of a platform with uncertain future and when it finally matures, there are boatloads of newer device to replace these first gen WP7 devices.

PS. btw what problems did you hear about the DHD? the proximity sensor?
[Desire HD General] flywithme:
even thought they are both 1GHz:

HD7 is using 1st gen snapdragon w/ 1st gen gpu..

DHD is 2nd gen snapdragon w/ 2nd gen gpu..

The choice is yours.
[Desire HD General] Frostyeo:
Wah.. i've been waiting so long for this phone, so most probably 2nd or 3rd week of november before it is available for our telecoms?
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
$1224 is way too expensive man considering the RRP if u buy from the local shops is only $888.
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
I also tried a WP7 phone n it's not bad but since it's still new, there won't be much support in terms of developer and user support and no one knows if it will ever take off. It could end up like WebOS where it's languishing in the bottom of the smartphone OS leaderboard even though it received rave reviews from critics.
[Desire HD General] kyang:
Well guys. WP7 has no cut, copy and paste functions and is not backward compatible with old windows mobile apps. And another killer is it does not support multitasking.

You're experiencing the fluidity of the phone OS probably because they haven't load in a lot of apps yet. With more apps installed, WP7 might show some lag.

The other thing I dislike most abt WP7 is it is using fixed memory with no expansion option.
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
The fluidity of WP7 is more to do with the hardware acceleration of the GPU I think. Loading more apps might slow it down but probably won't be as much as Android since Android doesn't support hardware acceleration yet.
[Desire HD General] jo3yp:
I've still not heard anything from challenger or the singtel shop in funan. Challenger did day between the 11th - 15th though so fingers crossed you guys will get it next week :)

I'm happy with my desire for now so won't bother upgrading. The only things that are tempting me is the 8mp camera with dual flash, the fact the HD video recording on the desire seems to have a very low fps and I didn't realise you can only use htcsense.com if you have the HD.Other than that the phone seems awesome and very smooth, I'm not sure why I'd need the extra RAM but maybe it'll come in handy when Gingerbread is released.

Cheers,

Charlie
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
if u root it, the recording fps on yr desire will be better if u install 3rd party roms..else u have to live with the low fps of the video recording.
[Desire HD General] jo3yp:
Hmm, interesting thanks. Not ready to start rooting and installing custom roms yet though. I love the standard 2.2 Rom and HTC sense, seems so smooth.

Maybe I'll change my mind if I get bored with it or find something else a rooted phone and custom Rom does that I really want, bit low fps of hd video recording I can live with :)
[Desire HD General] kyang:
I wrote to HTC on the 9th-Nov-2010, this is their reply:

"Thank you for contacting HTC.

With reference to your query, this model will probably be released in Singapore this month but we are not able to provide you the accurate date. We can provide you the list of all the authorized retailers in Singapore. You can contact them to check the price and stock."

As usual, vague as hell. Can't really blame telcos for no knowing as the company itself as blur as sotong.
[Desire HD General] Prad001:
Finally got my desire hd from clove yesterday... its exciting, charged it and now using it...its great on the hands and as of now no issues with prox sensor. Battery charge will let you know may be after a few cycles of charging, the make is solid no problem with the power button .... its a wonderful device to go for!!! :)
[Desire HD General] tigabert:
Wow! Really envious.

Meet up for prata & kopi? :D

Remember to set the device to USB debugging to avoid the init process going unstable
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
alright man! u're probably the first person in SG to buy a DHD!

So the power button is easy to press? It's not recessed into the body of the phone?

So how did u cost u in total?
[Desire HD General] Prad001:
Huhha sure will send u a pm :)
[Desire HD General] Prad001:
As of now I have no issues and power button is in the right place . In total the phone cost me 960 sgd

Inclusive of gst !!!
[Desire HD General] auricom:
I'm so envious now.. and you ordered yours late Sep if i remember correctly?

if I order now it won't arrive before next month will it?
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
Considering the RRP price of $888, $960 is actually not that ex. Enjoy yr phone, for me I still need to wait for local telcos to launch cos I'm recontracting.
[Desire HD General] konanda:
I also ordered from Handtec UK last October but haven't received yet. How do you pay GST?
[Desire HD General] Prad001:
GST will be taken care by

Your delivery courier dhl etc you will have to pay them when they deliver!!
[Desire HD General] jo3yp:
When I asked my dad to buy me one and ship it over all the stores had a 5 week back log of orders... not sure if that will have gone down now.
[Desire HD General] Roopney:
AAA's sales girl said Desire Z is available.

but DHD wont be here till end Nov
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
Did u call and ask or u were physically there at the shop and saw it yourself?
[Desire HD General] tigabert:
Someone with a reliable source said that DHD will likely be available this weekend. Latest by next weekend...
[Desire HD General] Roopney:
i heard the lady telling to a person over the phone. very loudly
[Desire HD General] xandnax:
i asked the guy at starhub, he said it'll be out on friday. i.e. 12 november.

but ive not seen any other indication that it'll be released. no advertisements, no special promotions, nothing! I guess I'll only find out tomorrow if it's really been released.

another guy at singtel passed me a dummy set when I asked if it's been released, then he realized that it's not actually supposed to be released yet.
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
cool! guess it's true then..too bad I'm not there or else I'd ask her to show me the Z immediately. :p
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
ok, all signs are pointing to this weekend launch and seems it might be a soft launch.. so I guess tomorrow must pay a visit to the telcos! :D
[Desire HD General] hyocca:
hope this time is true.

not some AAA crap info

or htc false hope stuff

it's been a long wait.

releasing it tomorrow is a good move.

Someone at least double confirm this.

I'll head down tomorrow and find out.

gez.

really man.

Hd7 launched instantly.

desire hd went through a party and long wait.

if it's like a false hope tomorrow.

really Lan lan man.
[Desire HD General] lehtung:
so.. any news?
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
well it's almost 100% sure that tomorrow the Desire Z will be launched. With the cheapest plan on starhub, it's going to cost $598, but the cost on other plans is still unknown. And it's also not confirmed whether the DHD will be launched tomorrow or not either.
[Desire HD General] tbgreen:
ya..any news?

i din see any dhd or z in any of the telco or shops in the west here ~
[Desire HD General] tbgreen:
double no-good-news for me: 1. am looking for dhd, seems z is 1st; 2. gonna wait longer till when......:confused:
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
u never go and try AAAs at funan or sim lim? heard there got the Z already.
[Desire HD General] auricom:
HTC please don't go SE on me, blowing hot air only to deliver ages later..

This new Samsung is coming in Jan/Feb 2011 and it's lookin hotter by the day
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
Maybe this new Samsung "flagship" will be launched before DHD lol.

Apart from jokes, 4,5'' for a smartphone is unnecessarily huge for pocket usage.
[Desire HD General] kyang:
Me thinking of jumping ship to Samsung Galaxy S, some of my friends also pissed off at HTC's lack of interest with Singapore fans.
[Desire HD General] tbgreen:
sounds good idea...me too thinkng this way ;)
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
Ok, Desire Z is launched today, the ads are all over the papers. No sign of the DHD though.
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
erm.. u know that phrase "cutting off your nose to spite yr face"? Well, don't go with the SGS just becos of the delays for the DHD... the SGS has a bunch of issues on it's own too like bad lag due to the crappy RFS file system, rubbish GPS and samsung hasn't even rolled out 2.2 to the local SGS sets yet.. and the rest of the world is already had 2.3 for quite awhile already.. so they seem to be lacking interest in the local market as well..

having said that, the upcoming nexus s is rumoured to be sporting a dual core CPU.. now that would be something worth waiting for.;)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DEFINITIONOFREAL:
I'm upgrading phones this week, & currently have mytouch 3g. I want to do a survey to see which u guys would choose, the Vibrant or the G2, both have there ups & downs, but just wanted to get some criticism on them both
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oka1:
Vibrant is a better phone

don.t be wow'd by the high benchmarks etc. Remember you are looking at the device alot and G-2 is not as good to look at besides other than 2.2 on it this very second, I can't see why anyone would want it other than it is the newest.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DEFINITIONOFREAL:
I'm looking for which has the best benchmarks, handling capabilities exc, not looks

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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blkegk:
Go ahead and pick the inferior htc phone.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EB91:
If you get a vibrant I guarantee you will love it. Root and flash the bionix rom. Simply amazing. Speed performance battery life. The g2 has potential but you'll be waiting a little bit since it just came out and I believe there isn't a way to permanently root it yet either
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtc442:
Its also very heavy, bulky, and the keyboard sucks. I had the vibrant, took it back and got g2, took it back after having it for a week, and got my vibrant back. Its all personal preference though. Only thing I miss is the led camera flash. Used it as a flashlight when I went camping.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chalup:
LOL ask in this section and surprise everyone bashes the g2. Ask in the g2 forum, and I bet you know what will happen. Good luck finding objective comparisons. :-p
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daverod:
I think everyone here is a bit biased. :) I'm probably a bit less so.

I'm assuming you've looked at all the reviews on site's such as Android Central? I do remember the G2 being praised for battery life. They went so far as to say that it was the best phone on battery that they'd seen. AC also compared the form and finish to the venerable Nexus One. That caught my eye since I carried (and preferred!) the Nexus One to the Galaxy S (european version) until I dropped the crap out of it. I miss it terribly.

The Vibrant is a nice phone, no doubt about it. But I've been struggling with the GPS issue and it's really beginning to get on my nerves. Reflash!, everyone says. WEll, I have...many times. It only works if I open a location-aware app before I leave my house. Then, since it determines my location with assistance from my own wireless network, I'm able to drive away with confidence. If I'm already driving when I open G-Maps, I'm screwed. It takes much too long to get a fix and just isn't practical.

Otherwise, I love the phone. If you go with the Vibrant, just be sure to test out GPS thoroughly in those first few days. Keep your MyTouch handy so that if you have issues and T-Mobile gives you a hard time, return the phone. You'd be well within your rights to return it in the first month (though I think you take a restocking fee type of hit).

Good luck!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtc442:
You will actually be very surprised to see just how many people are unhappy with their g2 over in their forums. I was one of them. Go look over there and read some of the posts by g2 owners before you decide.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthrottle:
I'm still debating with myself over getting a g2 and giving up the vibrant.

I like the support the g2 is already receiving, the battery life, it has froyo and we're still tba, camera flash(which does have it's uses), the trackpad has it's uses, less lag and neat features being announced (uma).

That being said... I don't want/care for a physical keyboard and hspa+ hasn't/won't make it to my area until next year. I really like the vibrant screen size (larger screens make phones seem more super phone-ish), it's great with all games, which is what I've always wanted an iphone for... It does have plenty of potential, but not a lot of support.

Seeing the issues coming up with the g2, I'm not sure I want to give up one set of issues for another. I'll probably hold onto my vibrant to see how the mytouch hd turns out unless either of these get the issues resolved. It's not like I'd be settling with some outdated hunk of junk if I do hang onto it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmas0n:
Disclaimer: I've had the Vibrant since the first week, but I have also spent a considerable amount of time with a friend's G2.

The Vibrant is lighter, has a bigger screen and more internal storage. Yes, you can add a microSD card, but there is something to be said for walking around with half a dozen ROMS on the internal SD while still having space to record a few hours of 720p video and using the microSD just for music.

HSPA+ will be a great thing for mobile devices in the future, but I like to wait until the 2nd generation of hardware when it comes to network standards. 3G is plenty fast for mobile web in most areas and I can stream from Last.fm while doing turn-by-turn navigation in Google Maps. Seriously, what more would I need? Even downloads from the Market or Amazon MP3 are fast enough over 3G (for now) and if I need faster, WiFi is pretty much everywhere.

Vibrant is my first mobile device without a keyboard. Hooray for Swype.

In all honesty, only you can make this decision. Go into the T-Mo store when they're not busy and spend as much time as you can with both devices. Attempt to disregard what appears to be issues with software or the fact that the G2 has Froyo already. Educate yourself. Buy. Be happy.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DEFINITIONOFREAL:
Will the g2 be able to receive future updates, I heard gingerbread will only work with 4in screen & 1g processor. If that's the case I will definitely be getting the vibrant.

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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master™:
Isn't there also a lock that stops you from customizing the ROM on the G2? I am pretty sure there is...

But you should go with the vibrant.. It is thinner, has a bigger & better screen, amazing, fast, you can overclock it to 1.2Ghz (Or 1.3Ghz if you buy a kernel..)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtc442:
yes, they made it unrootable. made it read only so that when you root, as soon as you reboot phone, root is gone. HTC actually told me they didnt know anything about it when i first emailed them, then about a week later after tmos press release, HTC called me on the phone and explained to me how it was unrootable, for now at least, is what she said. i had already taken mine back and got the vibrant though the day before they called me. (but, i know the devs here will eventually be able to root it, i just didnt want to get stuck with it and go beyond my buyers remorse period.)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DEFINITIONOFREAL:
I know the g2 can be rooted but it wipes root when it reboots

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[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master™:
Yeah, therefore not custom roms on it..

Go with the vibrant :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gr8gorilla:
I have both phones and have had 4 warranty exchanges on my Vibrant. Latest because the update bricked my phone.

I personally prefer the G2 for everything not media related. If I am going to watch a movie on a 4inch screen I would prefer the Vibrant. However for everything else especially GPS I prefer the G2.

The keyboard is nice IMHO. I had a Nexus before the Vibrant. Both devices have ups and downs. If you want a solid phone that has great GPS and is Blazing fast go with the G2.

If you want a phone you can easily root, has a great screen and the best GPU of any phone currently on the market, then get the Vibrant.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master™:
I have to disagree with you on the GPS part, I have never had a problem with it.. Not even on stock
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkdata:
I returned my vibrant and picked up the G2 I had no choice the vibrant call quality sucks in a semi no one could here me when I talk. The vibrants very laggy and a mong other issues I'm sorry to say I think its the biggest wast of money . And now that I have the G2 I see huge performance difrence. The only good thing vibrant has is one of the best screens .
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DEFINITIONOFREAL:
When you say speed r u talking about the new hspa service or what ever or the speed of the device functionality itself, & roms r coming for the g2 seen a video of cyanogen on 1

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