yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
that is understandable, but the problem comes when you don't know if said teething problem is software or hardware related..

For example, we still don't really know if the proximity sensor issue is down to hardware. The latest update didnt really solve it for some.
[Desire HD General] bteljuice:
Hey guys.... I know I am going a bit off-topic... but where can I get my hands on the DESIRE HD?

I want a website that's AUTHENTIC. I dont have a contract so I am paying full price.

Had enough of my Rhodium, time to move on ;)

last but not least... What issues are you getting with the DHD other than the Camera indoors (which isnt a real problem IMHO)
[Desire HD General] davidguate:
Thats trhue, se apples problem with the antena in iphone4. Arent thet testing the phones? it doesnt seems that they do
[Desire HD General] Smaia:
Read som pages in this tread - I think your questions are answered a couple of times already. ;)
[Desire HD General] broncogr:
I would recommend Handtek

http://www.handtec.co.uk/

cheers
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Great review by SpencerUK from Netscapist

http://netscapist.com/2010/10/desire-hd-netscapist-review/

Very worth of read.
[Desire HD General] wonderwout:
I think within the Sense contact app you can override the photo link setting per contact or remove the Facebook linking per contact. But I'm still waiting on my DHD and haven't used Sense in a few months now.
[Desire HD General] jivemaster:
Finding these reviews confusing. They all like and hate different stuff. This guy says the camera is worse than the hero and others are saying it's better than some dedicated cameras. And some like the speaker sound and some hate the sound.

Usually most reviews for other phones have some constants, but each one so far confuses me.
[Desire HD General] shanedean:
Perhaps this clears up the screen confusion...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmMH9dYqnc&NR=1

Around 40 seconds in it quotes a Super LCD screen.
[Desire HD General] oprisnik:
That's an old video. HTC pulled it and changed the scene where they say SLCD.

New official version: http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC#p/u/7/GHO9A9Zf5g8
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
I think HTC will never do the same mistake, as they did with Desire's AMOLED. While it depends on other suppliers for their screens (and I don't see them manufacturing their own any time soon) they will avoid specifying which technology is being used as it could lead to unwanted results when the technology has to be replaced for various reasons (Samsung unable to provide enough displays is a good example). That way they could stay in the announced specifications (480x800 touch screen) without becoming too dependent on their suppliers. And I can't really see what's the point in all this "Is it SLCD?" thing. Much more important IMO is the performance of the screen like daylight visibility, etc. which don't necessarily depend on the technology of the screen.

Bottom line - it could be a SLCD, it could be a "normal" LCD, it could be both - some units with SLCD, others with LCD depending on the batch. There is no way of knowing for now. Maybe if someone is crazy enough to take his/her phone apart and trace the display's product number, it will show which type it is.
[Desire HD General] noobdeagle:
imo someone will do a tear down before too long so im sure we will get that screen id number soon enough
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
Maybe, but that one being SLCD or LCD won't tell you what's in your DHD - it could tell you that's more probable being one than the other. It's much like the cat in the box. You can't really tell if it's dead or alive until you open the box. Now imagine thousands of cats in thousands of boxes. You can't really judge about all the other cats in all the other boxes from the condition you've found the one in the opened box.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Seeing as you haven't got the phone yet, how do you know its not a problem, trust me it is a problem
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
What planet do you come from? haha.....that must be the best statement so far ! :D
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Man, it must be crazy Monday, what is going on ????
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
From the planet that has Desires with AMOLED screens and Desires with (S)LCD screens. What planet do you come from?
[Desire HD General] Chimero:
LOL!!!!!!!!!!

1-0 for tkolev.
[Desire HD General] onesolo:
Lol your're right but right now this planet only has DHD with LCD screens, confirmed by HTC himselfs, unless the tecnical department from HTC don't even knows how to announce the right specs to their marketing department...
[Desire HD General] bteljuice:
Thanks ;)

From what I have read, it doesn't seem like a Big problem to me( that's why is stated In my honest opinion IMHO). To me, camera is not a deal breaker. Have a DSLR, I prob used my Rhodium's camera around 5 times in 1yr.

But thanks for the clarification.

There are 117 pages. As much as I would like to read ALL PAGES, i think I'll just ask someone would be so kind to give me a quick summary of the issues or problems they are facing with the DHD:) if possible. Thank you
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
You know what....I have no idea any more...maybe the same planet as Samsung..
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Sorry if it came across abit *****y lol...having one of those days
[Desire HD General] Demiourgos:
I've asked HTC about Desire HD and Gingerbeard, and just received an email from them:

"Thank you for contacting HTC Support. I can confirm that the Desire HD will be receiving the newer version of the android OS when it is released.

Sincerely,

Jason

HTC"

yeah baby!
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
Excellent, I guess we all assumed, but thanks for getting confirmation. :D

I can't wait to see the new bells'n'whistles!
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
Got mine today!!!

played with it a bit and now it is chargin and will be till 6 am...

I am lost though... this is my first smartphone and my first android phone (obviously)
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
wow im surprised they would confirm this before Gingerbread is even out. But great news still!!
[Desire HD General] Chimero:
Does anyone know how much the HTC Media Link is gonna cost? I believe it is expected to hit the market Q4 of 2010.

PS : I did try using a search engine. Could not find any answer to the question.
[Desire HD General] bobbyphoenix:
Now if only everyone who ordered a DHD could get theirs by the time GB is out. LOL
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
You'll get the hang of it in no time..
[Desire HD General] matheuspedrosa:
Local Stores

My girlfried is in Germany and will be in Netherlands in the next days. I asked her to buy me a DHD but she says that on Vodafone Shops they doens't have it.

Can someone that already bought it or live in those countries confirm if it's available from the street shops?

Thanks guys!
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Vodafone wont sell it without a contract - I tried at the weekend but they wouldn't do it.

Belcompany and The Phone House have them in stock. Not the cheapest places though, hence they have hundreds available in each shop (whilst people like me who ordered online are still waiting for f'ing delivery).
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Ahaha, seriously Google should actually call it GingerBEARD :D

I would be soo living that since im a ginge :p
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Ok so for anyone following, my new VF device came today. First thing I did was to charge it fully for 6 hours before I even turned it on. Couple of things to point:

- build quality: slightly different. This new handset has the problem with the bottom casing gap (I swapped the covers around and it now fits perfectly so seems to be a slight build issue with the removable covers). The internals seem to be slightly mis-aligned as the power button seems VERY flush with the casing (almost have to use nail to press) and there is a very small gap at to top of the screen.

- audio: audio seems a little better in the handset. Also when playing music there seems to be A LOT more base than the 'test' handset.

- battery: battery seems brilliant in this one (so far). after 5 hours of removing from charge and doing the ususal initial setup, using wifi installing/updating there has been very little battery drain. I am using the same settings as the 'test' device but have yet to go a full day with Push exchange mail and so on. I will play with this one for next few days and install all apps again and report back on difference. So far looking very good.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Well spotted, that made me laugh..

+1
[Desire HD General] Magnus3D:
Thanks for the batteryreport, i been curious about how well it performs in real life. Reviews on various techsites is one thing, real life testing by users is a whole different thing. Keep us updated on the performance and batterydrainage please.

/ Magnus
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
i believe jords already has.
[Desire HD General] jords12:
Way ahead of you :P
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Great! Thanks for the mirror. I have a pretty nice hosting company, I don't think they have a hard coded limit. They're all at home now, so maybe it won't be a problem. When they throw the pictures out I'll redirect to you. Thnx mate.

Photo's of some arabic websites (couldn't think of a site other than al jazeera)

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/ara1.jpg

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/ara2.jpg

Is that what you're looking for?
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
if someone were to scale some of the images down you wouldn't all be rampaging through bandwidth. No real need for a bunch of 3.5mb photos when much smaller one will do just as well.

Thanks to all for the pics and the hosting though. Great to know that these handsets are at least in the wild at last.
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
The battery cover is a pain in the ass indeed. First get it aligned with the body, then gently press in down. You'll have to press a little hard for it to pop in.
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
I was already dealing with that. I resized all now except the camera images.
[Desire HD General] jords12:
I've now served 1162 copies of those pictures - they are going to be seen by a lot of people :)
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
clock, any chance we'll be seeing a video clip?
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
On it's way. Just made one.

After a cold reboot it takes about 15-20 seconds to get a fix outside. Inside follows.
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
awesome!

this is all really appreciated dude! thanks for all this.
[Desire HD General] gwud:
Clock, this is all excellent information, thanks for doing this. I'm really looking forward to getting this phone now, also I want a cigar. Damn.
[Desire HD General] bratfink:
3D Graphics test

To test the true 3D capabilities of the DHD could someone please download Nenamark1 it is in the market place however depending on which country you are in you may not be able to find it. If not please get the apk from google somewhere. Its the best 3d testing application!!
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
thank you bro, but it doesnt support arabic :( sad
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
VIDEO:

http://shadowservices.biz/pics/

@jords12: can you make a mirror? Then I'll edit my post to your URL. 43 GB and counting ;)
[Desire HD General] Overloaded:
You could upload it on youtube ? :)
[Desire HD General] HishamN:
OK, that what we wanted but unfortunately it doesn't support Arabic very well.

Thanks for help.

BR
[Desire HD General] jords12:
I'm getting a 404?
[Desire HD General] Spaky:
Hi Clock the link above doesn't works for now :(, anyway thanks a lot for your work!
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
nonono youtube will compress it further! we don't want that ;)
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
http://nena.se/downloads.html#nenamark1

clock, could you please download this benchmark and run it on the desire hd.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Thanks for that mate...
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
I assumed this was the design, I thought it was a bit strange but have got used to it, mine is completely flush with the case. So you say your other one isn't, curious.

Any chance of some comparison pics.

EDIT: picture of my phone, although a little blurry you can see how flush it is.
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Correct the other 'test' device was slightly raised. While in the car I could quickly tap the button to active the screen, now I almost have to find it and press in to activate. Also there seems a bit of a gap between the screen and aluminium case at top (right under the prox sensor can see metal reflection).

Unfortunately I don't have a decent camera for a side by side shot, not one that will show 1mm/2mm differences anyway lol

On a side note: just installed and run Quadrant on this one, 1925 - Woop!
[Desire HD General] deadite66:
may have been a bad live wallpaper but when i had one on the battery was half used in a few hours, used a standard wallpaper and the battery life settled down.
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
This might well be true. I had the standard HTC live wallpaper running on the 'test' handset but on this I have a static HD image.

Also just noticed that

'36 apps have been partially restored to your device'

....aww nuts, I'm not sure what I have activated (new to Android) and it seems all the crap I was testing has been installed lol. Well we will soon find out if it was an app causing battery drain....
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Guys I just 'found' this elsewhere on tinternet:

"Two things which you can check to see whats using your battery:

As above in the Battery usage section, identify what is using your battery. I'm still struggling to understand why Cell Standby and Phone Idle use 35-40% each, but my battery tends to last me through the day.

Secondly, go into the dialer, and type *#*#4636#*#*, and don't press call. The Testing Menu should display. Click Battery History and then change the first drop down to 'Partial Wake Usage'. This will list applications that may be causing the phone to use more battery power than expected when it is meant to be 'sleeping'. See if anything really stands out."
[Desire HD General] matheuspedrosa:
Thanks, I'm gonna tell her to go there.
[Desire HD General] noobdeagle:
well google already put the gingerbread statue on their lawn so the announcement of its release is very soon id say before xmas, when they added all the previous statues the announcement was about a week or so after.

i think the froyo was unveiled a week before the google conference where 2.2 was announced so chances are 2.3 (or 3.0?) would probably be November just a guess :P
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
I haven't updated the OTA update yet and got no proximity issues yet, no gap on the back cover, power button not completely flush, can download fine from the market, etc...

so far no faults... will test the battery today... I played with it for 30 mins yesterday after I received it... and then recharged it for a whole night...

Also, can someone tell me how to update the weather please?

As my location doesn't seem on accuweather.com which the weather application syncs to

I just want the weather on the home screen and I can't get it currently...

This is my first android phone so dunno what to do..

Any ideas?
[Desire HD General] ramteid3:
Hi, until now it's hardly available in germany. At least I'm still waiting... :-/

Regarding street shops there are several reports that some "Media Markt" or "Saturn" shops got few ones, depending on where you are. Other source could be O2. No signs from vodafone and t-mobile at all...
[Desire HD General] Morkha:
Can't confirm O2

Was in a shop of them yesterday and asked when they will get the Desire HD.

The guy i talked to only knew that the HD7 will be in stores soon and could not tell me any specifics about the DHD.

I think it will be available in time for the Christmas sales. Probably at the beginning of November.

So seems like We have to wait a little bit longer.
[Desire HD General] matheuspedrosa:
Thanks Guys...

She will be trying in the next few days... then she's going to Netherlands...

Maybe there she can find it...
[Desire HD General] MrGarak:
I had heard from a few people that the initial batch of Vodafone devices here in Ireland were unbranded and sim-free, so went to check it out!

The first Vodafone shop I tried said they were completely sold out, but told me another a half hour away had one left, so I rushed there and was able to pick up the last one on PAYG.

I put in my old O2 sim card and booted it up and indeed it is unbranded and sim-free, with the 8GB card.

Sim-free for a price of €479 - I'm extremely happy!

Initial thoughts:

It is a wonderful device.

To offer a little perspective; I'm coming from an iPhone 3G. I do like the weight of the phone, it feels very solid, and the aluminium feels great. Overall build quality is fantastic.

It's definitely brown and does look black in certain conditions. This colour actually looks distinct and really nice.

I didn't have much trouble getting the battery cover off, the instructions in the manual are wrong for the sim card tray though, you need to pull it from the sides and it comes off no problem.

As I said I've come from the old iPhone, and the one thing that's stunned me is the speed of the device, it's so quick and fluid. Sense looks great too.

The display colours are a tad washed out as people have mentioned, but it's more natural and nothing to worry about. It's sharp, but not as much so as the iPhone 4 display, I haven't seen the SGS screen yet up close. I love the size of this one though.

Thats a short summary of my few minutes trying it out and examining the outside, letting the battery take a good charge now, will report back anything else worth mentioning!
[Desire HD General] m7svk:
my hd will me here tomorrow, but I already find few vodafone stores in uk sell them, then you can cancel you pre-order and get same deal in store, my was already dispatched then I need to wait one more day... :), but they told me some pre-order customer will wait couple weeks for their phones.., then is much better run to shop and try luck..
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
OK - I got the phone and let me tell you it's stunning! The screen is awesome. It's much better than my old Touch HD. Not quite as good as the iPhone's but that's understandable given the higher resolution and pixel density. The build quality is flawless. First I thought that I have the same SIM cover issue, because it just didn't close right - there was a bump in the center of the cover and it didn't fit tight, but it was because I closed it incorrectly. You have to position the cover fully opened, press LIGHTLY where the two locking teeth are and GENTLY slide the cover into closed position. If you have to use force then you are doing it wrong. There is nothing under the screen (dust, etc.) so thankfully I woun't have to return it (I got the last phone in the shop). The screen is very responsive and the Snapdragon inside really makes a difference. Battery time is still TBD as I just took it off the charger. So far I've synced it with Google, played some Angry Birds, installed few apps, played some Angry Birds, synced it with HTC Sync, played some Angry Birds, tried the DLNA, played some Angry Birds and... you guessed it - I played some more Angry Birds :). The so called camera issue is annoying, but this is a smartphone, not a proffesional camcoder, so it's not a big deal for me. DLNA seems to work only with devices that support higher version of DLNA, so I couldn't see the phone on my TV. Anyway the good news is that it supports DLNA client, so I can watch videos on my phone that are stored on my computer. This for me is more important than watching videos from the phone to my TV.

I say again - the phone is awesome in both functionality and build quality and I am very happy with it.
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
How the hell did you manage to get it for that price??? Including VAT???

So is that why it wont aparently work on the PS3?? I wonder if they will get the PS3 updated then so the DHD can control it. Anyone know?
[Desire HD General] MrGarak:
Yeah €479 including VAT. It's supposed to be a Prepay/PAYG phone locked to Vodafone's network, however they didn't bother to lock the first batch of phones they are selling here or load any sort of branding onto them!

It was pretty risky as I didn't know if it would be locked or not I was just going by what one or two people told me. They won't take the phones back once opened of course :p

I think it's supposed to get people talking about the phones and get more people interested while they still have the exclusivity deal, I read that Vodafone have done this with other phones before in the past.
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
Well if they make the PS3 to be remotely controlled via DLNA, it might work. However I don't see any chance making it work with my Philips TV :(.
[Desire HD General] SkilletDesire:
I received mine two days ago excellent phone no doubt. I had a slight issue with the aluminum casing being market permanently with a white square about 1 mm² inside the h symbol. Thought it was a piece of dust but it wont come off really weird. Anyone else have similar issue?

Other then that very happy!
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
Yesterday I asked HTC, too. My answer: We are sorry we don't have any informations about Desire HD and Android 2.3.

But lets hope they got new informations. :cool:
[Desire HD General] Balforth:
The o2 shops in Germany aren't stocking it yet... they said maybe another week or two, however o2 Germany seems to be the only o2 location selling the phones...

https://service.o2online.de/portal/?$part=Productcatalog.content.detailView&hardwareId=4510%20070045%2000&commercializationId=NewCustomerWebshopPostpaid&tariffId=N-HWO-H-NC-20
[Desire HD General] Mohammed Shouman:
Has anyone ever used clove?? i ordered my Desire HD 5 days ago, when it was stated it was in stock now its out of stock and i got no answer if they dispatched my order or not. They even took money from my credit card. Its my first time buying a device so i have no idea how these things work.

Can anyone tell me if this is normal or not?
[Desire HD General] olivierlee:
I ordered 3 phones from Clove before and they're great. I ordered my DHD on the 16th September and received it yesterday. They only had a limited stock which they started dispatching on the 21st October. I have no idea when you will be getting yours as you ordered quite late and they still have the back orders from early October.
[Desire HD General] noobdeagle:
you would be near the back of the que so you probably wont see it till sometime november first come first served and they still have heaps of preorders to go through first, this will apply to most online retailers and the DHD you will just have to wait
[Desire HD General] Mohammed Shouman:
Last question has anyone ever used the Int Signed mail option? i chose it and i was not aware there was a dhl option so i need to know if its safe to use or not

Many thanks
[Desire HD General] noobdeagle:
well id assume its safe, i dont think a distributer would use a dodgy mail service.

if its signed it means it should be registered so you should still be able to track it and you will have to sign on arrival it should be fine

if the order hasnt gone through yet and you want the other option send them a support email and ask them to change it
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
quick update:

day 2 of new handset. first day had 34% when arrving home from work and today (14:14) 90% battery so far- I am impressed!
[Desire HD General] m7svk:
just collect my hd, very happy, this phone is really for the moment one of the best on the market, very fast, very smoth...
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Well I'm really angry with HTC!

It seems they ONLY delivered ALL of their phones to Vodafone and expensive stores like The Phone House.

All the online shops have had NO delivery and have again pushed back their delivery dates a further TWO MORE WEEKS MINIMUM. Some are saying the END of November!!!

Meanwhile there are f'ing THOUSANDS of DHDs just sat in the Vodafone shops doing NOTHING (unless people want a Vodafone contract, which I don't).

Absolutely shocking. I can't believe HTC only delivered to Vodafone to help boost Vodafone sales. I'm sure there's some kind of European law against that.