yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
All I know is this:

I've run CM on my G1. I've run CM on my Hero.

I'm fine waiting. CM on the Hero is STILL... "lacking". Bluetooth/GPS/Notification lights sometimes work, and sometimes don't. CM on the G1 was always overrated imo.

So folks can whine and ***** about Bionix, etc.. but here's what I see. Bionix actually HAS a Rom. If the CM project doesn't want to prioritize the 5 million GalaxyS handsets, then so be it.

Maybe my perspective is different than some of the newbies around here, but there are many great developers who make their own ROMs outside of the CM project. Before Cyanogen, there was Haykuro. Before Haykuro there was JesusFreke. As Cyanogen and the CM project wane, we'll realize that we've already got some of the best devs working with us anyways. I used to run JAC and King's ROMs on my G1, and definitely preferred their stuff over CM.

So is it unfortunate that the CM project doesn't seem to give two ****s about the Samsung products? Yes. But can I wait? Absolutely.

Oh, and I'd like to point out that it's a helluva lot easier for the CM project to focus on the G2, since the G2 is yet another HTC device. They're quite capable at HTC. But once you get into Motorola and Samsung devices, CM aint the best name in the game.
[Vibrant General] Gr8gorilla:
I didn't admit to not knowing anything. I have looked, I have been to his site, he says that he didn't create the code and thanked JAC.

The fact is that people are riding Bionix nutz praising him for his great development when what he is doing isn't actually development. It is actually repackaging.

Every developer I know of on this site, including KingKlick, that actually writes code, posts it somewhere. Bionix does not post code.

I was apologizing ahead of time because maybe he has his code on github under another name, and I just missed.

The fact is that you can't compare what Sombionix does to what CM does. Even the lawyer in you can open a Proprietary rom created by samsung and make a few mods to it with winzip by following instructions readily available on the internet. However taking AOSP source code and developing it to work across various devices made by various manufacturers is not something you can do following a guide posted on this site.

This is the difference between a sculptor and a brick layer. Team Douche is like a sculptor, Bionix is like a brick layer.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
Right. Bionix actually has something to show for his work.
[Vibrant General] Insomaniac10:
haha i dont think you read his whole post
[Vibrant General] cashless:
if the shoe fits...
[Vibrant General] msw1382:
Correct me if I am wrong...

I thought Wes was removed from the development and it was handed over to The Dudes Android.

I really dont get Tweets or any of that BS, but this came from Wes correct?

If so was their any response from TheDudesAndroid?
[Vibrant General] sykopompos:
A donation implies that you are saying thanks for great previous work and hope the future work is good. After the device is bought if not already had then any donations go to offset what that dev could be doing elsewhere not working on your device like sleeping or enjoying their time. The only costs gained are caffiene and new device so otherwise it is not funding, it is encouragement to have people say I appreciate what you do

Why not write a 5 minute post, because most devs have xda anymore because of threads like these, this is so much false information out there. Most devs are deeply rooted in the computer world, if you wanna stay up to date and know what is going on then go into the irc chats. You just might learn a thing or 2
[Vibrant General] remarquian:
If I'm donating to someone's beer or whiskey fund, I damn well expect that that's what it is going for.

If I heard that someone used my donation to buy like Zima, I'd be truly pissed.
[Vibrant General] Insomaniac10:
do·na·tion   /doʊˈneɪʃən/ Show Spelled

[doh-ney-shuhn] Show IPA

–noun

1. an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.

2. a gift, as to a fund; contribution.

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So there are two sides to it. You can view it as a gift, or you can view it as funding. It can easily be interpreted either way. Bottom line is I'm talking about courtesy. If you donate without expecting results, youre essentially just giving your money away. When it comes down to it, its your money and you obviously have to the choice to donate or not. I simply choose not to based on the reasons ive stated. I work hard for my money and i like to know where its going. I have no interest in donating to any cause that is just gonna turn its back and say "find out for yourself". Thats a horrible message to send to people who are willing to support your work.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Gr8gorilla: You should really go see a specialist for that cognitive dissonance you're carrying about.

i.e. I don't know if what I'm saying is true or not. But instead of acting like a rational adult and *asking* whether my assumptions are true, I'll just jump right in with a big fat suitcase of condescension.

I just admitted that maybe Sombionix does do his own development and I just haven't seen it, but I'll just forget that and make a flat out assertion that he's not a real developer.

I can't see it. Therefore it must not exist. Again, I don't know that for certain, but I'll just assert it because it's easier to make the generalization than to ask a question.

Despite my own admission that I don't know if my accusations are true, I'll just keep going on with condescending remarks. Because once you get on the ignorance train, there's no getting off.

The sad thing is that you might be right. I have no idea of what kind of work he puts into his ROMs. But at least have the ****ing common decency to refrain from the insults when you don't know either. Making an assumption because "other devs do this" is ****ing stupid and I hope you realize that.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
Nope, I definitely read his posts. I get his "point".

What it comes down to is that CM hasn't had even an alpha ready for the GalaxyS in 2 months. No videos. No nothing.

And folks like him would rather piss and moan about people who actually ARE working on our devices.
[Vibrant General] sykopompos:
Just because you haven't seen the fruits of the labor yet in rom form doesn't mean that they aren't working on your device. Go on github and check it out for yourself, there is always constant work going on but there is a lot of hurdles that need to get bypassed to get aosp based build onto a samsung. Comparing people working on source code and other people working on picking apart a base from the manufactor and hex editting it are like comparing apples to fricking kiwis. They are no where even close to the same thing and unless you understand then go learn how to code and let's see you get an aosp build going, no you can't then shut up before you chase the devs away that are trying
[Vibrant General] tjhart85:
We BOUGHT the phones back in what, July [August for me] and just got a basic bugfix a week ago, sounds to me like even Samsung can't get their **** to build properly.

It also sounds to me like CM is actually making some decent progress (since Wes got some help anyways).

I for one hold CM on a pedestal because it kept my G1 running way beyond its time. I also hold it on a pedestal because it has tons of features that are not in other ROMS [not in Vibrant ROMs] that I really want back on my phone. There have been plenty of times that I try to do something simple like Navigate somewhere & it takes 6 extra steps on every other ROM. For my contacts, I could sort by the google group [through the default dialer/contacts], meaning I don't have to have EVERYONE in my contacts viewable on my phone at the same time. There are many other examples, but for me, it's the little things primarily that you don't really even notice or realize until you're on a non-CM ROM.

Bionix seems to be the best ROM out there now, but it's based on crap.

You can build a palace out of crap, but at the end of the day, it was still built out of crap, it might be very nice, but.......

That's how Bionix is, the man is very talanted, but his work is being held back by what he is using as his base. You still have all of Samsungs crappy progamming clogging it up.

It looks like TheDude is either collaborating or kanging from noobnl. Wes is still there, and appears to still still contributing. Seems like he is a good coder, but just really needed some help with it and was initially in way over his head.

Don't act high and mighty because you don't use "any of that BS." Many of us on XDA got a twitter account just to keep up with our favorite devs.
[Vibrant General] Ilmoran:
On Donations:

*Generally*, with any free-time development like this that I have seen, donations are a form of appreciation for work that's already been done, not a bribe to continue working on it. Hell, I've even seen cases where someone puts up software they developed in there free time, and appreciative users REQUEST a way to send donations.

Now if CM is really requesting donations, and not just putting the link up for those who are appreciative of the work already put in, then yes, there's a certain level of commitment to deliver. I haven't been following it enough to know for sure.

Of course, this new information DOES NOT mean they aren't going to deliver. It's a delay. In a software project. Such things are not unheard of. Maybe they could communicate better, but then, chances are people would ***** that they're spending too much time on "useless posts" and "excuses that it's not done yet" when they should be working on the project instead.

On the CM vs Bionix "issue":

They're different goals. Bionix is 2.1, while CM is 2.2. Bionix had a working example of 2.1 to work off of. CM does not have a working version for this specific hardware to work off of. It's going to be harder, there's going to be more surprise delays.
[Vibrant General] sykopompos:
That was perfectly said! nobody on the cm team is requesting donations they are saying if you like the work than you can donate so what you said about previous work is correct
[Vibrant General] sykopompos:
Much agreed, spend it on some good ****!
[Vibrant General] Gr8gorilla:
I can tell your education background is in the Arts and not the Sciences. You obviously don't the difference between writing code and a dissertation. I am not going to call you names because I really could care less about you.

You are obviously not an Engineer or Computer Scientist. You really should do some research before you decide what a developer is and isn't. I am glad you are having a great user experience from the Samsung Roms you are running on your phone. I am glad you are happy with your phone and your set up.

I hope you have a really nice weekend.

Later Dude!
[Vibrant General] mmalott:
LoL @ the Vibrant community being so on edge.

(relax, find something to do.)

LoL @ "you owe me" crowd.

(must of voted dem for pres, :D)

LoL @ at people bashing any dev, cook, or contributor.

(Regardless of their behaviour, they have provided you with a service free of charge. Thank them and leave them alone. Sad human beings who talk down the hand that feeds them.)

LoL @ this thread.

(If i was an outsider reading this thread or forums for that matter, I would think that Vibrant owners are all a bunch teet suckin, whiney little ass holes.)
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
I know quite well how to code. Hence why you'll hardly see any posts from me complaining about a damn thing from releases I see on here.

But CM hasn't released **** in here. They're working on HTC devices. Good for them. The G2 has been out a week and they're working on getting AOSP running for the G2 instead. Not a problem.

But tell us so we can stop donating to a project which is being half-assed for the GalaxyS, but is going full-throttle for all of the HTC devices.

And hey, you can ***** and moan about how some people aren't coding straight up, while others are simply improving existing releases. That's your prerogative. I really don't care. I want a STABLE, fast, functional ROM. That's it. I don't have the time to spend making my own improvements. I don't care if it's AOSP or not. Touchwiz is fine with me.

Again. If the CM project showed any evidence that they actually cared about the GalaxyS, that would be one thing. But that spreadsheet shows that we've had at least 5 separate developers, with nothing to show for it. Every time I get an update email about the CM release schedule spreadsheet getting an update, it's like a sick joke.
[Vibrant General] Kubernetes:
Why don't you just stop? I really could not give a **** about your profession. What's plainly obvious is that you have serious difficulty with understanding the meaning of words (Perhaps if you had studied some liberal arts you might have picked it up).

Seriously, I haven't even brought up the definition of a developer with you. I'm talking about the fact that you yourself don't know if Sombionix meets your definition or not. If you did know, you wouldn't be acknowledging that you might be wrong, that Sombionix may put dev work into his ROMS, or that he may have posted code that you haven't managed to find. All of these admissions point to one simple conclusion, which is that you are simply speculating based on an admittedly incomplete set of facts.

Ever heard of the axiom "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"? You are making conclusions based on the fact that you couldn't find evidence that Sombionix does dev work. And based on that illogical conclusion you've come out swinging with insults and condescension. Now, don't you feel disappointed that your fantastic education never taught you how to think rationally?
[Vibrant General] karimsaud21:
Okay guys, i think alot of yall have misunderstood the message i was trying to get across. ALL i was doing was telling yall that our phone wont make THIS release of CM. It is NOWHERE stated that development has halted on our phone.

And to those claiming that they are entitled because of donating, well you guys need to realize that they arent just taking your money without any plan of releasing a CM rom, it will just take awhile!!!!!!!

Also, you can't blame our devs for their releases as they are stuck with the horrible base that samsung's software is. They are trying their best and after all, they are doing this in their free time! this isn't their job!

Haha, that is exactly the reason i have my twitter
[Vibrant General] kizer:
Want to know where your donations are going? Its called to other phones. ;)
[Vibrant General] DJ!:
im just going to use whats available, donate to the ones that i like their work and just hope the ones that are doing what they can to better the device dont get tired of all the complaints and get discouraged. :cool:
[Vibrant General] Gr8gorilla:
Hey man, honestly, I respect you and every other person here. I am sorry that my science background has taught me to only believe that which is proven. It is a byproduct of the thousand upon thousand of problems we do do in science and engineering classes.

I will take back my insult of winzip dev and give your favorite rom guy the title of cook. I agree that we should work harder to get along.

My ultimate goal was not to insult Bionix even though that was a bi-product of my intention. My goal was to explain the difference between a rom built from google code and one that was reconstructed from a proprietary rom that Samsung built.

So anyway, I am sorry for insulting you and Sombionix. Can we be friends now?
[Vibrant General] Gr8gorilla:
It is coming man. The CM devs have a lot of experience with HTC devices and not so much with Samsung. Eugene will tell you if you ask that samsung is a different beast.

They are working on a curve here. The guys working on it have to relearn what they know for Samsung to get it to work. It will happen they are trying. Not all of them but a few.
[Vibrant General] mrxela:
Wow fellas, what an insult to entire vibrant community. Bunch of impatient, entitled a-holes. I am ashamed to be a vibrant owner today. Epic fail indeed.

And to the devs, thank you all for your hard work. There are still folks out there who appreciate what you do for us.
[Vibrant General] acspin:
Wow, everyone just needs to chill.

Read the writing on the wall, we most likely will not get CM on our phones...ever. That's perfectly fine. The dev's don't owe use anything, and there are many alternatives that will begin to pop up. It's just a phone...after all...

:)
[Vibrant General] nacron:
I'm in no rush to get CM on my vibrant. I ran CM on my mytouch after kingclix abandoned his rom. It was nice to have 2.2 instead of 1.6 on my mytouch but using a buggy RC rom as daily is frustrating. I'm sticking with the stock rom modified to my tastes for now.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aeo 37:
Any body have this issue. When ever the phone is on and I need to pull the battery for whatever reason, it will not turn on when I put the battery back in.

If I wait and turn off the phone before taking out the battery it is fine though.

How I get it back on is a problem itself. It would take me upwards of 20 min of just pressing the power button x amount of time, removing the battery and charging it.

This isn't even happening when I am out of battery. I would have 90% left

Also sometime it looks like it tries to turn on, display the black screen with HTC logo and displays the radio... then it just keeps on rebooting itself. Never actually fully booting.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] malaeus:
sounds like you are abusing your phone. dont mash buttons that many times, you are hurting it.

take the battery out, hold the power key for 10 seconds, let go. then put battery in, and press power key once.

if this doesnt work, get an iphone
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] donkeypunch85:
I've read a few posts similar to this.

Solution: Once battery is out, leave out for 15-30 mins, reinstall battery WITHOUT turning device on, plug in power supply, wait an additional 5-10 mins before turning back on. Works for others.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aeo 37:
OK will try this. Is there a reason why this always happend when I pull the battery though?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mastajest:
Also, check your pins. One of them may be bent.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] aeo 37:
Ok this way seem to work. Thanks

There wasn't any bent pins on it though. I thought that this was just one of the flaws of running Android on the HD2.

Because I never had an issue with pulling the battery and it not powering on while it was on the stock WIMO
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sovah:
thanks guys! it worked.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] javip:
why do people continue to pull the battery? i think i've ever only pulled the battery once in the 3 months i've been flashing roms and testing builds. reset buttons always works for me. don't want to get them pins bent!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pbrussell:
Hey just wondering if anyone else has experienced a cap on there internet connection bc I used to be pulling 1500d/l on 3g and 5000 on 4g and now I'm down to half that on both ends...i tried playing around with updating different variations of pri, nv, and radios.. And had minor success but nothing to the extent I was receiving....... Didn't touch the wimax due to that already being three most recent and the problems it caused most people with the phone......but yea I'm sure sprint has updated one if these: pri, prl, nv...etc to limit the downloads ri an extent....so I figured if I reverted back it would be uncapped.....any suggestions? And btw I'm on the newest calk and that hasn't changed since the plunge in my connection speed.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frontay:
I was trying to download a ROM when I was tethered to my pc and was getting close to 180 kbps then it slowly started dropping until I was to about 20. I was in Birmingham with good 3g and I was using easy tether with ubuntu. Imo I think Sprint will start slowing u down after so many mbs. It stayed around 140-180 for a good ten minutes but then it started dropping. I guess they didn't appreciate me downloading a 100mb+ file through their network lol
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Today my internet is hella slow. I just use 3G no tethering . I use like 8-10 GBs a month. I never tether just streaming and browsing.

Sent while sitting on the toilet.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2k4mach:
My 4g was hella slow today. Was getting right around half the speed i usually get.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pbrussell:
Are any of you using different combinations of pri nv and radios.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2k4mach:
all the latest on calks latest rom
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Carriers tend to use "Best Effort" QOS (link) on web surfing and data which means your max is capped but there's no min. Think of it as "if I have the time" priority. This scheduling is controlled at your local access point or further upstream but not in the phone itself.

Different variations of pri, nv, and radios may help but you would need two identical phones running identical bandwidth tests at the same time/location to the same test server to verify. Even this method has issues with accuracy but it's as good as a "user" can get.

*note-Sprint's "4g" is 802.16e(WiMAX) not 802.16m(4G) and is classed as pre-4G or Mobile WiMAX.
[Android Apps and Games] text12:
Hi, I need a cpl of beta testers for my app. Specifically I need people with HTC phones with the stock HTC music player installed.

My app allows you to skip songs with volume button gestures.

I was unable to find a app in the market that allowed you to do this in the background and worked with more then one player app so I hacked one together.

To be considered you must:

Have the HTC player installed

Be willing to provider me your e-mail address

Be willing to put up with bugs and my hasty coding

Put up with the Google licensing server *

* The licensing server will just check your email against an authorized user list.

If you are interested please send me a PM with your email.

Thanks!:)
[Android Apps and Games] spbeeking:
That's actually a good idea. I'm surprised people haven't thought of this before.
[Android Apps and Games] dr3minem:
Cool, would this work with the screen locked aswell?
[Android Apps and Games] sturmeh:
I believe that's the point.

I'll be glad to test if you ever get this working on Galaxy S.
[Vibrant General] Spokenblurb:
Google maps can't find my location it keeps saying temp. Unavailable therefore my weather app ( beautiful widgets) isn't working correctly either I have the official tmobile update running completely stock, I can't figure it out... my gps works fine but I'm inside a apt building surrounded by allot of trees so leaving the gps on is not a option( besides the fact that it's a battery eater) but I do have full 3G bars... any ideas cause I'm fresh out?:mad:
[Vibrant General] mapinkerton:
Did you try unchecking "Use GPS Satellites" under "settings"/"location and security"?
[Vibrant General] Spokenblurb:
Yeah its already unchecked..I tried almost everything before I decided to post
[Vibrant General] boomerbubba:
Is "use wireless networks" checked?

Basically, there are only two methods for the phone to know where it is: The "Use wireless networks" method, which enables a coarse tower-based estimate, or the more precise fix by enabling the GPS. If both are disabled, there is no way for Google Maps or any other app to know where you are. Dunno which of these two values Beautiful Widgets is looking for.
[Vibrant General] Emama:
Set yr beautiful Widget to a fixed place,

Or use wireless location
[Vibrant General] Spokenblurb:
Wireless network is checked. This is not a beautiful widget problem but rather a google maps or location problem its showing that I'm at a place I was two days ago and when I try to go into maps and hit the find my location button it says location temporarily unavailable