yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] jords12:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RID1q92iuL0 - it doesn't have the original desire's problems
[Desire HD General] HishamN:
+1

Thanks in advanced.

BR
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
what! now i wonder if an hebrew is incloded ?
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Made some pictures. Please mirror them quickly, as I just got an second mail that I already used 30GB of bandwidth, as where I'm allowed to use just 5GB.

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/cam2.jpg

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/cam3.jpg

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/cam4.jpg

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/cam5.jpg

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/cam6.jpg

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/cam7.jpg

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/cam8.jpg

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/cam9.jpg

http://files.danhof.org/DHD/cam10.jpg

It's 6 o'clock in the afternoon here in Holland, so it's getting dark. There's not that much light in and outside, I'll make others tomorrow morning. And yes, everything is a mess due an ongoing renovation ;)
[Desire HD General] jords12:
Heh, it's 5am over here, i've been staying up so i can mirror more stuff but will probably go to sleep soon - I've already started mirroring those. I'd recommend removing them off once that's done and redirecting to my site.

EDIT: Done now, should all be there on my site now
[Desire HD General] csy7550:
How's the GPS? Fix time indoors and outside? :D
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
He so I got my HD! But there is already one major obstacle! Can't get the battery cover back on. Getting it of was hard enough! Don't want to break it... any tips. Really bad design!
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Well for a HTC phone those images are pretty dam good indeed.
[Desire HD General] turkification:
I agree, I'm impressed!
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
agreed! far better than the Desire or Nexus One imo.
[Desire HD General] clooak:
I was trying ot post mirrors but since i am a new user the system didnt allow me so please mirror the images before the trafficlimit has been reached.
[Desire HD General] craigspc:
If you need some hosting space, I'll provide you with a temporary FTP account if you like. You can upload without worry then.

Craig.
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
...and by Apple you mean Sharp, who make the screen. Let's not forget Apple don't really manufacture anything, they just get Foxconn to put together components from various manufacturers.

I mean no disrespect to you with this comment, just wanted to vent a little.

Also apologies for the off topic nature of my comment.:D
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
ok so I got sick of waiting for my order from an online shop (still waiting, next week at the earliest). So I went for a 30 minute walk to the local vodafone shop (in Holland this is).

There the guy opened the drawer where I saw HUNDREDS of the f'ing fones!!!

But... they only sell with a contract!! What a joke!!!!

I think HTC + Vodafone have done a deal to deliver to Vodafone a week before every other shop to boost Vodafone's contract sales.

Absolutely ridiculous and it's really annoyed me. :-(
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
1% battery
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
sorry about the last post I was running low and wanted to record the time the battery died.

So....update 2 (3?) on battery situation:

As you should know yesterday my battery pretty much only lasted working hours before it died. Well same again today.

Using same 'test' device which was not properly charged from first day. Last night the battery got to critical again (10%) so I put on wall charge with screen off overnight from 01:00 approx. Unplugged and took to work at 09:30 approx.

Today I had no Wifi on at all, no GPS, screen brightness on auto, no facebook, no twitter, no stocks, no gaming, no browsing, no music, no calls, no navigation. Mainly sent a small number of texts and install VISIONary and tweaked a few things along with my usual needed Exhange mal sync (push) and gmail sync (15mins). What I did today was disable a few unneeded apps and services from launching (using temp root). So overall I really did nothing, or as little as possible considering.

As you can seee from the previous post i had 1% battery at 17:53 and as soon as I submitted the message the battery died. So approx thats 8.5hrs battery time with very little, and I mean VERY little usage (even screen was switched off most of day). Tonight I will continue to disable more 'uneeded' services and apps, switch screen brightness to manual and set it to lowest possible setting that I can actually use.

Tomorrow I will re-examine with usual scenario (no Wifi, no GPS, no social networking / browsing, etc...), just text, email and perhaps like tweaking / app use.

for anyone who is interested, battery stats are:

80% - Display

10% - com.htc.launcher

9% - Android System

3% - HTC Sense Live Wallpaper

2% - Quick Settings

2% - Cell Stanby

2% - HTC Weather Wallpaper

2% - Android OS

Also I have been promised by Vodafone that tomorrow I should have my contract device ready for pickup. I will fully condition the battery of that device and compare my findgins to see if it makes any huge difference - or if there really is a serious issue with battery consumption on Desire HD.

PS: just taken off charge at 18:20 and noticed 38% battery full - surely it couldnt' be 38% charged in approx 30mins??
[Desire HD General] mbgy42:
Hi my phone was delivered this morning - TMobile on contract - ordered yesterday.

First impressions are that the screen is excellent - compared against my partners desire it is at least as good (do not know what sort of screen but happy with it in any case). It is also pretty good when viewed in sunlight (better than my G1 anyway!)

The wifi range is also very impressive - there are no dead spots at all in my house or (fairly big) garden and there are plenty when using the desire or G1. This is with a BT Homehub 2.0 so wireless n probably the reason.

Have not had a chance to check anything else as it arrived 20 mins before I went away with work and won't be back until tommorow for a proper play
[Desire HD General] Basil3:
I can now get 12+ hours use out of a charge after a few charge cycles but I'm resigned to the fact I'm going to need to a quick hour blast on the charger in the middle of the day. I unplug my phone at around 5:30am and I wouldn't be able to get it to last to 10:30pm.
[Desire HD General] MrGarak:
The plot thickens! Good info, will stay tuned to hear what happens with the fresh phone.

Thinking about ordering one from the UK once theres a steady flow of stock, so good to hear how people are getting on with theirs.
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
I didn't get any email... did they send you one themselves or did you ask them?
[Desire HD General] chingf0rd:
That doesn't add up to 100%

Why is the Display on 80% if it hasn't been used that much all day? I'm looking at my Desire at the moment I've done similar usage (in that I've hardly touched it all day) and the "Cell Standby" is at 44% and the "Phone Idle" is at 37%.

I note that I lose A LOT of battery power when I'm at work as the Desire is always struggling to lock onto a cell signal in the office so the battery is more or less dead by the end of the day (10-12 hours), but when it's left at home, I can get almost 2 days worth of power (40+ hours).

Sorry, I've got a Desire and am just waiting for my DHD to arrive...just lurking on all the forums reading stuff!
[Desire HD General] berek9999:
That display percentage seems very high - did you have the display switched on most of the time?

As a comparison, my phone (ok, it's a Legend not a DHD but the figures still hold true) show Cell Standby at 80% and Display at 7% after a day's average use.
[Desire HD General] lazex:
Today the shop Clove.co.uk has started to send DHD to all who has issued the preorder approximately till September, 20-25th. The first stock has scattered instantly. I have got to number of lucky beggars =) But to wait to me for it in Russia it is necessary 2-3 weeks :cool:

Receipt of the second stock approximately next week.

By the way, in Russia DHD it is expected officially since November, 15th, under the official price of 27-30 thousand roubles (700-630 euros). Therefore we also should order abroad, where much more cheaply.

Oh this Russia...
[Desire HD General] Magnus3D:
Hi people, i just joined this forum as i'm one of many who are standing in line for a HTC Desire HD as soon as it's released here in Sweden.

However seeing that it's already relatively small battery might run out in less than a day is slightly worrying. More info and tests would be greatly appreciated.

/ Magnus
[Desire HD General] Ashour:
Thanks for the info. Seems I need to buy a car charger and maybe an extra charger for work if I decide to buy this phone. Maybe even an extra battery for travel.

Really dumb of them not using a 1500 battery.
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Only reason I see it being 'unmatched' is because of the higher resolution. I personally believe that if the iPhone had the pixel density of 800 x 480 (same as Desire HD), the Desire HD would own it
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Nope, display was off most of the day. Though I am guessing it makes those percentages from total phone usage as I did have the screen on most of the first day :p (this is only third day). I have restarted the device a few times over the past 3 days.

Let's see what tomorrow brings when I leave it pretty much completely off and screen brightness manually at 15%
[Desire HD General] emwdava:
What did you mean by that? Ordered the DHD in sweden and it even say in the product title that it's the black version.

Katshing.se
[Desire HD General] DarrenT:
If its the built inbattery monitor then its only telling you about usage since it was last unplugged. My Hero says it wa unplugged 2 days 10 hours ago and had used

44% cell standby

24% display

21% idle

4%android system

4% voice calls

2% air control lite

I find it stunning that yours lasted just 8.5 hrs and of that 80% was on the screen. especially since you say it was off most of the day. Will be interesting to see how others fare.
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Just realised........I forgot the battery completely died and the device switched off so I put it on charged. I pulled those stats soon after I unplugged it. I will look at this tomorrow while unplugged all day and add into tomorrow's update
[Desire HD General] Basil3:
A couple more things I'd like to note about the battery life, and I don't know if these two things are related in any way:

Firstly, I can't see a clear difference in battery life between when I have WiFi on and when I don't. With my Hero I would get markedly longer battery life with WiFi off.

Secondly, my phone seems to constantly switch between 3G and HSDPA. I don't know why it does this, and I don't know if this drains battery, but my DHD does this both at home, and at work, and both places have strong signal. My Hero would stay on HSDPA the whole time at both of these places and would never find the need to switch.
[Desire HD General] Ashour:
How good is flash sites? Like Gametrailers.com for an example?
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
I find the same with my device, although in this test device I have a PAYG O2 SIM in it so wasn't sure if it was just poor network coverage. Mine constantly seems to be switching E / 3G / H .

Also I read somewhere that eve if GPS is turned on, it won't actually 'activate' until an application calls for it's use, so it can be left on. Perhaps this is also the case for Wifi ?
[Desire HD General] dai_griff:
Sounds like a software fault mate, it shouldn't be doing that!
[Desire HD General] Pottrell:
h ttp: //w w w. daily2news. info/ 886 /htc-desire- hd-proximity- sensor-a- known-problem-with-no-solution-for-momen t

^ reading through it, it seems htc are aware, and the problems only exist in early releases.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Im sure there will be a software fix soon...
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
thx rixsta for your review!
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
I can say ive had around 10 calls with no problems...phone from t mobile delivered today
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
The switching of 3G and H is normal. (H)sdpa is a protocol over 3g that enables higher data speeds. So when a lot of data in being send it's likely lo switch over to H and back again to 3G when the data stops.

I,m not sure about the Wifi, but I recommend switching it of when you don't use it.

One of the major reasons for battery drain is when you have a weak 3g signal.

It this case the phone spends a lot of energy recieving the signal. This is also the reason why you're seeing the E (edge) symbol. E is like HSDPA a protol, but over GSM. Your phone is switching to GSM because the 3G signal is to weak. I recommend switching to only GSM (network setting) in situations where there is a 3G signal.

I don't know if there is an app that switches to G automaticly when you don't use data connection. I used WMlonglife for this in WM and this led to a dramatic improvement in battery life.

You an try using Juicedefender to switch you're data connection off when the screen is off.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Thats ok...thought nobody had seen it...
[Desire HD General] oprisnik:
clickable: http://www.daily2news.info/886/htc-...-a-known-problem-with-no-solution-for-moment/
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
Good review! I agree with your findings!
[Desire HD General] MrGarak:
Sounds good, thanks for the review, enjoy!
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Thanks Black, I knew about the data protocols. I am just a little surprised at how often it changes, and I mean this is all when I am stationary at my desk and the phone hasn't moved.....not moving in and out of dead-spots
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
If it is switching between H and 3g the phone is just sending/recieving data.

If it is also switching to G or E the phone is struggeling to get a 3G signal. This may be the reason for your abnormal high battery drain.

Where I study it's the same situation.
[Desire HD General] ramteid3:
rixsta, thanks a lot for your review, I've seen it even here in southern germany :-)

Your comments are always well appreciated!
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
Yeah, every time there is data going in or out it is likely to change to H, and when data stops, it reverts to 3G within 8 seconds (operator set value).
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Thanks guys...i need to do a video in daylight...why does it keep going from light to dark...can this be stopped...any body got any thoughts on this
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Great review rixsta, you just put a big smile on my face after a day of work and no news about my Desire HD. Thanks!
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
Nice review rixsta.

Just thought that I'd let you guys know that I've been unplugging and replugging the phone in no special charge pattern since yesterday when the batt ran down very quickly, and the last time I unplugged it was at 67% charge. Right now, 5 hours later, with not much usage (couple of emails, 5 mins maps with GPS, and most things switched off) the batt is at 53%. So in 5 hours I've used up only 14%, not great, but not too bad either, in theory that should give me 35 hours on 1 charge.
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Not sure if anyone seen this but this is a big review! http://www.trustedreviews.com/video/HTC-Desire-HD

PS: They say in the video that HTC want it back to update it with the latest software ?! :|
[Desire HD General] MrGarak:
Very nice, thanks for sharing it! Kinda curious why Engadget are taking so long to put out a review, although they did say it would arrive soon.

edit:

Maybe not surprising, but the difference in viewing angle really stands out here. The HD screen almost looks photoshopped :p
[Desire HD General] jasecs:
thats probably why so many shipments in uk been delayed
[Desire HD General] Magnus3D:
Sure the viewingangle is not optimal but ask yourself how often you actually view your phone from such an extreme angle that it is necessary ? not very often to be honest. :)

I don't think it matters that much.

/ Magnus
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Photo Camera review (comparison vs digital camera with 10mp) http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/fingers-on-shutters-for-our-htc-desire-hd-camera-test-50001240/
[Desire HD General] MrGarak:
True, can't argue with that! Great overall though, except the battery life which is a problem for me, but hopefully a stronger replacement option will come along quickly.
[Desire HD General] noobdeagle:
is anyone who has recieved their desire HD game enough to try this battery replacement ?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1500mah-Batt...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item5195d23f42
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
http://www.gumtree.com/london/03/67335903.html Guy selling a brand new HTC Desire HD just in the UK!

Btw noobdeagle those batteries are not good, seen alot of bad comments on the web about them.
[Desire HD General] noobdeagle:
oh ok lol, i suspected them to be bad like usual, i do hope htc will have an official extended battery tho
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
I think you have a better chance of buying a second than having a bigger battery from HTC :p
[Desire HD General] noobdeagle:
lol yeah they wouldnt want to ruin their rep for bad battery life :P

ill have to wait and see im still awaiting my DHD from handtec probably wont ship till next week :(
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Im in the same boat.. :(
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Me too, next week at the earliest. There's f'ing hundreds of them sitting in the local vodafone shop not being used which is annoying (i dont want a vodafone contract though and they wont sell loose)
[Desire HD General] anirudhchokhani:
Hi All,

Great to see so many ppl interested in the phone. I am still waiting for the phone to be launched in Oz and there is no word from Vodafone about a possible release date or even a waiting list. :eek:

Half considering buying the handset outright but I don't wanna make the same mistake again. Bought a Sony X2 in March this year and still regretting the stupid decision :(

Ani
[Desire HD General] zomfgwtfbbq:
Check the latest thread on the whirlpool forums. It's stated that Voda are having a launch event next week for the desire HD, someone got an invite to it.

A couple of people including a friend of mine went to a couple allphones stores and they said the desire hd is coming out only next month.
[Desire HD General] noobdeagle:
an X2 :S why not an X10 ?

i bought a htc legend in april lol but since they new here in aus i managed to get most of what i paid for it back when i ebay'd it to make money for the desire hd so really the DHD only cost me about $200AUD lol

out right is a good idea but it depends how long you keep the handset for but considering voda is getting it here in aus i dont think you will have to wait to long
[Desire HD General] phunkycow:
I'm guessing the exposure is getting adjusted automatically and well, the shifts aren't done smoothly. This is probably a bit far-fetched, but if there's an option in the camera to have the exposure adjusted manually, go for this one and give it one more try.

PS: Fantastic review rixsta, very extended. Thanks a lot! Unfortunately we have to wait 2-3 more weeks minimum to get the device here and I can barely wait.. Argh!!! :(
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
yeah as phunkycow said, check if they have exposure settings. I hope they do the default setting is quite bad.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
I got mine off ebay..there has been a few on there for awhile
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
My concern is getting worse after testing more...video goes light and dark outside...exposure at +2 stops it somewhat but it then looks to bright...the camera is the same....this is not HD thats for sure...its very bad...much worse than i had first thought...any ideas anyone...
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
Try exposure settings plus manually setting to daylight, fluorescent etc. and settings ISO level, I have found that this (especially ISO) seems to combat the light/dark shifting quite effectively.

Also, if it really is true that these early units still don't have a final firmware then maybe the camera software will be tweaked slightly.
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
just to make sure :p the setting is 720p right?
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
I'm not 100% sure that the device they actually tested is the same as the devices that are being shipped. Perhaps they got it a while ago but didn't write the review until now(ish). I mean, we know Google put the release date back a bit because they had issues, do you really think Google would have agreed to release handsets that is still in Beta so to speak ?
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
.....:mad:

Just called Vodafone online orders team. Apparently they have no stock and I should be getting my handset delivered by the end of NEXT WEEK !

That's yet another week on the expected delivery date!

I'm tempted now to just go ahead and accept the mobiles.co.uk order (the contract is actually with Vodafone LOL - go figure !) and cancel the Vodafone direct order
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Vodafone just confirmed to me in an email that the proxy sensor issue is definitely software, so handsets wont need to be sent back.

"Dear Matt,

The error is with the software so it will be a FOTA update.

Sincerely,

Jason

HTC"
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
YESSS. Awesome news!!!!
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
thnnnnnnnnnnnnnnx
[Desire HD General] m7svk:
vodafone uk delay

this morning vodafone just let me know, my phone should be with me in 7 to 10 working days, can't believe this.., they had small number of phones, but all already send to customers who first pre-order this phone.., another week to wait.. :(
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Battery update: 74% so far looking good today
[Desire HD General] ceck_01:
Simon: Hello, you're chatting with Simon, one of Vodafone's online sales specialists. May I take your name please?

You: my name is lewis

Simon: Hi Lewis, how are you?

You: good its just a quick question

Simon: sure .. go ahead

You: i have pre ordered a HTC desire HD and the release date is today can you confirm that they are ready

You: i ordered instore and was to pick up instore

Simon: yes as the delivery is going to take place from today onwards

Simon: so you will receive the delivery today or within 2-3 working days

Simon: as the delivery is taking place on first come first basis

You: Thank you very much for that i was just needing to make sure that it hadn't been delayed again

Simon: no worries

Simon: Is there anything else I can do for you today?

You: no thats it thanks

Simon: Thank you for chatting with me today. Vodafone really values your feedback. Please click the "Close" button at top right to answer a few questions about your experience with me today. Have a really good day!
[Desire HD General] MiKA7:
@fubofo, would you please try an divx/xvid movie on your DHD and see how well it plays??
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
I'm at work at the minute and don't have any movie files to hand. I'll check later - also any specific player ?
[Desire HD General] Basil3:
I played an episode of Fringe I downloaded and it played no problems. Think I had to use Rockplayer though. Also streamed the same episode from my phone to the tv via my xbox using Twonky, and that worked smoothly as well.
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
sry bad day 4 me.
[Desire HD General] clooak:
Superetrader is finally moving=) I expect my device early next week!

20/09/2010	Pending

21/09/2010	Preorder

22/10/2010	Processing
[Desire HD General] MiKA7:
Thnx for reply,

The DHD is supposed to play avi files in the stock gallery, I can see them on my hdmix rom but I'm unable to open them.. So stock gallery if possible??
[Desire HD General] tbalden:
ordered one on 20 of October from gum mobile unfortunately after their pump up of price to the level its sold on other webshops i've seen. hoping to get it next week.
[Desire HD General] hughsiss:
I got mine on Wednesday from CW on Voda. I'm liking it so far, the batteries not that good on it.

I'm new to Android and this forum so any tips would be good!