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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Chad_Petree:
its hard to accept, and its specially frustrating because the galaxy s hardware has clearly the best hardware available right now :mad:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BackfireNL:
Lol i did the opposite... traded it in for a Nexus One :) been a happy camper since :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
GPS is not fixed, at leats with my experience.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] eRajesh:
Everyone is saying that the amount of free RAM won't matter. But what about Gingerbread? Google has already stated that the next version of Android will be focused on UI itself and it may happen that phones with only 512MB or more RAM be able to get Gingerbread. Then what?

Samsung has used very cheap advertising by selling the Galaxy S with 512MB of RAM instead of 384MB RAM.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DARKKRAKEN:
The GPS is garbage on my phone at least with froya, takes ages to get a lock then loses it again like 10 secs later, utter crap.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kel Ghu:
Eclair JJ1 was the fastest ROM I tried with OCLF v1 and deadline schedule, I broke the 2500 barrier on Quadrant. Virtually no lag.

With JPA, quadrant score went down to 1800 with OCFL v2. It does feel laggy. And 3D graphics are clearly slower. I find it weird... It's like the JIT compiler is not working and drivers downgraded from JJ1.

No GPS problems whatsoever with my device.

But I noticed one thing. My internal SD is 3x slower than my class 4 external SD card. When I copy files from windows to the SDs, I get ~3.5 Mb/s for Internal vs 9 Mb/s for External. And in some disk benchmark, the conclusion I get is Internal SD Speed = Internal Memory Speed. Which is worrying...

Maybe the lagfix should create ext2 or ext4 on the external SD card and everyone should buy a class 10 microSD
[Galaxy S I9000 General] OrionBG:
Samsung did NOT choose the Snapdragon chip for their phone!! Microsoft did! For a company to produce a "Windows Phone" it need to follow the EXACT hardware specs that Microsoft says, which are:

1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 CPU (Yes the old one)

512MB RAM

512MB ROM

at least 8GB of internal storage

So Samsung didn't have much of a choice!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] OneDream:
Voodoo is available for Froyo? I must have missed that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Frizhideron:
same here... it really pisses me off, cuz on 2.2 FROYO android, everything else but browsing is much faster...

2.1 android had faster browser

:/

I can't believe it.... dolphineHD is actually better...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mitty1990:
I really don't notice any lag at all, sometimes the odd hiccup but that's to be expected with any phone and I have had a lot of phones lol
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Will.1:
Since changing to JP6 official (well via kies hack) I only experience minor lag

only when my phone comes out of sleep

Meaning when i open the launche right out of sleep mode, it opens up real fast, but will have a hicup or two for about a sec when scrolling throught the pages.

Same thing with internet browser (not as good as previous ones i agree), once the page is fully loaded, it will lag and be choppy for 2/3 secs, then all smooth. It's still annoying though

Basicially, i think the phone needs time to wake up. Opening the widget pannel in the homescreen can take 4 secs the first time, really annoying, but then it's instant after that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Adevem:
i'm curious if those people experiencing lag did a factory reset, cache reset and MANUALLY configuring their stuff again instead of restoring from Titanium ALL THE TIME.

it's like bringing your bad settings from your previous rom over to your new one, then you cry about it. and when a new rom comes out, you go through the same motion again.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] borchgrevink:
Yes I did all this except cache reset. How do I do this?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ijat91:
i'm do factory reset, wipe the cache and for make sure nothing left over, i format back my internal SD, install one by one the applications into my phone to prevent the conflict from previous rom, backup all apps using titanium backup and flash back the rom, restore it back, it still the same!!!

annoying lag in browser although set the flash off (ex:- pocketnow, engadget) if flash on, really bad!! for first scroll, it pretty bad lag but after that quite smooth but not so good compare to browser JM8/JM9 :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Sad to see that the lag is still there, and also that they didnt fix the GPS.

Definitely dont regret getting rid of this phone now.

I've just spent the day setting up my N1 with cyanogen mod with a custom theme and launcher pro, and it is absolutely FLYING, OK only 1405 on quadrant but who cares, in the real world it blitzes the Galaxy. But its sad because with the hardware the SGS has, it should be EPIC. :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SkinBobUk:
I can understand people saying the lag and gps are fixed, but compared to the HTC desire i have sat next to me the sgs is a dog.

I appreciate there are hardware and software differences between the two devices, but the sgs was advertised as the fastest android phone ever made, however in stock form it clearly is not.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zipolly:
galaxy

I must be missing something here ? I have JPM on my phone and dont experience any lag whatsoever its lightning fast and the GPS works flawlessly , i also have around 25 apps installed on the phone and i can honestly say its the best phone i have used , i also have a X10 which i like but doesnt compare to the galaxy !!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] webstar1:
You maybe didn't get any lag on nexus because the default froyo launcher is much faster than touchwiz , you can download it if you want by searching froyo launcher on xda. For me everything is amazing! The gps is much accurate, speed has improved without a lagfix, amazing!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Shocky2:
err, no. GPS has never been fixed, tried JM8 and latest froyo builds, it's worse than ever now. :mad:

My HTC Legend locks about 9 satellites in just over a minute, Galaxy S locks 1, it's unusable and it's been like this in every firmware I’ve tested.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
To be honest, even with the voodoo lag fix, compared to what my N1 is running like with cyan ROM it is distinctly second best in speed stakes, benchmarks not withstanding - even then its only about 200 - 300 behind in quadrant and is over twice as fast in linpack - not that these benchmarks really give any indication as to what these phones are like to use in the real world.

With the hardware the SGS has got, it should be a rocketship of a phone, but in the end, I got rid because I couldnt trust samdung to produce the goods and fix the problems. I am even beginning to wonder about the hardware now TBH. Will the GPS ever be fixed on it?

The sad thing is, they'll lose a lot of customers over this, I think they already have - I'll never buy another product from them again.

Love the signature in your XDA app BTW :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Erm actually, no it isn't.

I've been mega critical of the SGS lately, and its mostly deserved it, but there's no way I'd say the Froyo launcher is any quicker than TW Launcher. The animations etc are quite jerky, and when I got the N1, it was one of the first things I did, get rid of it. LauncherPro is MUCH smoother and faster than the Froyo launcher. And I'd actually say TW Launcher was noticeably quicker than the Froyo launcher too.

The reason the N1 doesn't lag is because it doesn't use a ****e file system, and it actually has a decent amount of available memory to use, not to mention that they're all on Froyo already which does have speed benefits on seemingly anything except an SGS for some reason.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ruskprick:
Since i flashed jp6 my phone is just the way i want it.snappy n good.Uses gps quite often and it just works fine.But honestly,i think this will be my last samsung-phone.

Why,u may ask.Well i spent 400euros on a phone that was quite unusable from the start,and i have had 2 other samsung-phones b4 and they were nicely designed but horrible to operate.I hate the fruitphone idea,but im stong enough to admit its a perfectly designed and usefriendly phone.Android has quite a bit to go still,even though i think they are on the right path.

HTC on the other hand,have catched the drift,no question about it!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Yes... I must admit mine with JM8 + Tayatuma Lite + Voodoo B4 lagfix + Autokiller was not slow by any means, but as you say, why should you have to go through all that to get a phone that actually works properly?

I was unlucky enough the other day to use a friends Galaxy S which he updated through Kies to JM4. It was full of bloatware from Vodafone. He wont root it and he didnt know about the lag fixes. To top it off, he had some animated wallpaper from the matrix on it. At that time I was pretty used to my lag fixed, rooted SGS, and his felt horrendously slow and horrible to use. He admitted that mine looked way faster, and he even wanted me to sort it out, but he's a big boy, working in a technical job like me, but earning a lot more money, and I wont be held responsible if I brick his phone, so I refused.

I think in a way, it comes with the territory with android that you'll need to tweak it to get the best out of it, but it should run at least acceptably out of the box. Shamefully, my N1 ran faster out of the box than the SGS did after all of the tweaking, and I've just spent the day rooting my N1 and putting Cyanogen ROM on it, a lovely theme, and finished off with autokiller, and the gap has only widened.

And it was lovely the other day seeing Google Nav actually working properly when I was in my car.

I know it was their first android phone, but how did they get it so horrendously wrong?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] darkoroje:
Please stop posting incorrect information. Neither the lag nor the GPS are fixed and posts like yours do not help.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] KaliKot:
After playing with it for a day

The lag is there but its much much improved. Still not as good as voodoo, but they fixed most of it!

GPS could still use some work but its greatly improved since Eclair. I wish someone would tweak it further
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Time will tell as a lot of users report that the lag gets worse the longer the phone is used - something about corruption of the file system - certainly tallies with my experience of it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Fihlvein:
People who say the lag is gone must have never tried running SGS with Voodoo, because the lag in latest Froyo is there.

I can honestly say that the somewhat latest Eclair JM9 had less lag than Froyo JP6. I noticed the difference immediately when I upgraded, and naturally I was running JM9 without any lagfix. I did complete factory reset before and after upgrade (internal sd card, cache, factory reset) so it cannot be anything related to that.

Pretty much only reason I'm not switching to DHD is the SAMOLED that is so sweet. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andars05:
I have to agree that the problems are not fixed. As much as I hate to say it, I will probably eventually ditch this phone once the Desire HD comes out. I still want to see what results CyanogenMod will yield.

HTC knows how to make a good Android phone. I will not be buying a Samsung phone in the future.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sonci:
The same for me..

The JM9 was way faster, and no lag, I flashed it immediately after buying the phone,

I was wondering what was this lag people were refering to,

now I know,

2.2 looks good, but thats all,
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Adevem:
our hope lays in cm6.1 ):
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ruskprick:
You have to remeber,that the guys who invented the RTS-system has a lot to loose,and Samsung has prolly put a whole lot of money in it.With some bad corp. it will stay in,even if its flaved to the death.They will never admit they were on the wrong path.Thats what kills big companys this days!Ill take a wild guess,n guess that 80% of us SGS guys wont buy another samsung phone for,lets say 3 year.That one hell of alot of dollars they will loose,considering all the ones we will tell to stay clear of the samsung-phones.Samsung really needs to get theyr acts clean and start firing ppl in r&d.someone has made some really bad decisions,and need to look for something else to do,if samsung really is 100% dedicated to the smartphone industry!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] 2dorr:
I really can't understand what is wrong with Froyo, I put it today and it's not a big difference between it and Eclair, it's a huge one. I have another phone, I have speed, I have the pleasure to use it now. Everything is smooth and fast. Indeed the Quadrant gets only around 1000 points but I am happy with my new phone. I want to mention that after Froyo update, I erased everything with restore to factory settings.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sonci:
what was your last Eclair?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Pretty much the only thing I miss about it.

A Nexus One with a 4.3" Super AMOLED screen (preferably with a genuine 800x480 res rather than a pentile display!), 8mp camera and the SGS GPU would be pretty much my perfect phone :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Unrealwolf:
Can't understand people who say that the lag is gone in JM9. Really, for me, even Voodoo and OCLF dont eliminate the lag. The phone is much faster, but black loading screens are still there and sometimes very long and annoying. I didn't try Goodbye RFS rom, thought.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
guys instead of all the complains, can i suggest to use that energy to do something more positive, like figure a solution to make the lag go away.

just something for all to think about.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
I would do, but I now don't own one, and even if I did, I'm not clever enough to come up with a solution :p

I do however, remain interested in the phone, and what happens to it, and probably always will since I owned one for several months.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] 2dorr:
My last Eclair was the stock one, I wasn't on Eclair and am not rooted yet on Froyo.

Also I am not crazy, I am not a first time user on Android. I started with G1 and I know the difference in the stock 1.6 Donut and a one made by a guy on xda. The difference in speed was incredible when I rooted my phone. So the difference from stock Eclair to stock Froyo with not lag or anything else is big on my Galaxy. Indeed when I put some live wallpapers there is a difference like something is making it slower.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jacket13:
man what are people whining, I'm running stock froyo fresh from the bench, still got all my apps and all I use is the advanced task killer to shut down what ever I don't need and my SGS RUNS FINE.

if you guys think that loading isn't normal in an device what about you pc? games have to load maps and such, things aren't instant live with it !
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mac11700:
I own a Captivate..not a I9000 so please understand. I wonder about the FroYo release and your phones. The difference between these 2 as far as this lag issue and gps issue.How many people that ran a complete un-rooted stock phone vs one that has been modified in anyway. What differences in regards to the performance and those 2 issues are they seeing on a phone that has never been modded in any way ? Not one that was reverted back to stock..but a completely un-altered phone from the onset.

Mac
[Galaxy S I9000 General] 2dorr:
I learned something by using a task killer on Android, indeed at first you see a speed improvement, but in time things goes worse. This week I uninstalled my task killer software because the phone had lag, real lag, it stopped from time to time to think of something, I do not know of what exactly, but it was horrible.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
To be honest, the lag thing was forgiveable, and solvable by the devs on here - that will be a thing of the past soon, I'm sure - although I think it was pretty bad that samsung don't even acknowledge it.

The two things that are less forgiveable for me though are the GPS - your mileage may vary on this, but there's definitely a problem. It was TOTALLY unusable as a sat nav device for me. The second was the RAM - I know its been done to death already, but they did advertise 512mb RAM, so why isn't there a lot more than ~ 300 Mb available for apps? What on earth happened there? And I do think many performance issues are caused by this.

For me personally, the camera over compressing images and not having a flash were irritating, but solvable, but I still for the life of me can't quite get why it would randomly freeze, and even more irritating was when it would turn off randomly. It also had a plethora of other issues that again were solvable, but all these niggles eventually combine to make ownership a frustrating experience, especially when you consider what these cost - these are not trivial purchases - they cost a lot of money, so its not unreasonable to expect a certain level of performance.

I do get sick of those people on here complaining at peoples posts on here with legitimate complaints though, I guess these people think that these problems are par for the course? Well let me tell you, if you use a competitors product (iphone 4, N1, Desire etc etc), they are much more reliable and satisfying to own. The SGS is a very buggy phone. It had great potential, but I fear, if it ever gets fully realised, we'll probably all be moving on by then anyway.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] INeedYourHelp:
Really? How did you fix it?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xZeDgEx:
Here! Here! Its too bad this board is rife with fanboys and apologists. :rolleyes:

The fact of the matter is you SHOULD NOT have to run a lag fix or some other form of so called "optimizing" software on your phone. It should work how it was intended, which most other phones do.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lokhor:
Samsung won't even acknowledge the lag issue let alone fix it. We have to rely on developers to do it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Shocky2:
So true, Samsung have had long enough to fix these problems and it's pretty clear they can't fix them or just won't.

Either way it's turning into a joke, well in fairness Samsung's software support has been a joke long before the Galaxy S, it's just a shame they've blown their chance to change that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
The app "vignette" which applies little or no compression, resulting in file sizes twice the size, and as a nice bonus also has sharpening filters and a good stabilization facility... try it, the pictures are clearly better.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pele78:
omg rofl !!!lmao!!!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Will.1:
wtf!?!

On a serious note though, could anyone upload a video of what they refer to as lag on youtube, i think we all have different notions of what lag is, which is why we can't get along.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Seifer1975:
Actually we are also sympathetic towards those with genuine problems. But it is frustrating when u read comments like "opening an app took 1 or 2 sec and not instantly...". What is the world coming to that we cannot even wait 1s? To complain about lag because of the 1s is a joke really...

The fruit phone doesn't open apps instantly either. It probably takes more than 1s, but well masked by the animation to fool ppl.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ijat91:
when i play the music in background and try to browse the internet(full website, flash off), it annoying like hell!!

This phone is capable to use multitasking but if i have to wait it for 3-4 seconds to respond from my scroll, it lag for me!! i try it with eclair JM8/JM9, never experience it before, it stutter for a while in eclair but not so buggy like in Froyo, samsung really put ****ty software this time!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mammenj:
I believe lag is a android thing because it has to create a vm for each app, so if you keep opening and closing apps you are bound to see some lag regardless of the phone. There may be ways that can be optimized but in galaxy its not optimized obviously.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Adevem:
I know what lag is. I came from an iPhone3G with ****loads of customizations on it. But of course, I asked for it.

This phone out of the box is ~alright in the lag department but what struck me was: "why is a phone with insanely much better hardware specs compared to the iPhone3G, such a far cry out of the box?"

sure I can wait a few seconds. but y'know, it does get irritating.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Chad_Petree:
Devices technically inferior like the htc desire have virtually no lag, this is really frustrating :mad:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cba1986:
Admins should create a whining section for SGS. So people that doesnt have anything better to do, go there to talk how s***y the phone is and don't fill the forum with useless threads like this one, and let real developers that see the problems in SGS but instead of *****ing saying "I hate this phone" they are triying to fix them.

So if you dont like this phone or you have a million problems with it, sell it and don't bother people who wants to enjoy it.

Peace.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] darkoroje:
I think mods should create a "I love Samsung" section where members would be able to express their love and admiration for Samsung letting them buy the phone without being bothered by others who have problems. They use similar methods in North Korea and it works great.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bec07:
Well that's touch wiz for you.

But with ADW and the latest firmware, there is no lag.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
The phone still lags and will keep lagging until samsung fixes the problems with the RFS filesystem. Some think that the filesystem is gradually corrupting but there doesn't seem to be a real conclusion yet as to why it doesn't work properly. There are many threads in development discussing the issue.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] EarlZ:
Never had any real lag issues on my phone so I tried LP/ADW as ppl say its faster.. i dont feel any difference at all!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bec07:
Somebody complained a few posts ago that the phone app takes too long to launch, it's faster with adw but it wasn't exactly slow or laggy before either.

I don't know what file system HTC and Moto are using but ours is definitely faster without any lag fix (quadrant and any other utility can show this). This is though due to the superior moviNAND made by samsung themselves but RFS is clearly a bad choice as any type of ext doubles the performance.

And then there's touch wiz that actually requires high I/O because it's poorly coded. None the less it's not a bad launcher and I hope it will improve.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DSF:
Really.. don't know how you can say that the phone is fast with this ****ty Froyo release. I WANT to use Samsung launcher because I find it very good, I can order my apps as I want.

Please test:

- open pocketnow.com webpage. Just scroll around the page and open the task manager. See how much memory and CPU the browser eats. It's just pathetic. Was better on 2.1 Eclair.

- swype fast in application list. you'll observe slowdowns. I have 5 pages of aps. On my previous 2.1 ROM this doesn't occurred and had more apps installed.

- try pinch to zoom in app drawer (again, you need to have some apps installed)

- I've sent a 10MB file from my PC to SGS via bluetooth. The phone started to lag.

- as a bonus: you get EVEN less avaiable RAM with Froyo. With the 50MB barrier you can use about 60-80MB for your apps with the phone being usable (if you have less than 40-50MB the phone is very unresponsive). If the browser easily eats 120MB+ .. I use the browser and feel the stals and it's very very annoying

I've wiped data & cache right after flashing the ROM

.. I'm disappointed with Samsung too. (after dumping HTC).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bec07:
Yup, just tested pocketnow...

The way to fix it would be to get some .so file from galaxy tab (the thread is called browser lag fix or so) or simply replace the browser wit the one from eclair.

As for the launcher, I moved to ADW (for the scrolling widgets)