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[Fascinate General] bbeaulieu:
lol, you should just switch already. Most of your posts talk about how you want to switch, so do it. Why torture yourself?
[Fascinate General] CrimsonKnight13:
Sense: this thread has none...

OP, I figure that once you learn how to type, spell, & understand good forum etiquette; you'll actually get a clue that Android is too "geeky" for you. There are plenty of games & many more to come as the platform & hardware mature but you're stuck with making a troll thread that serves no one here.
[Fascinate General] xenoaurora:
I think your thinking is backwards. Its this kinda leap in gpu that finally encourages devs to make more graphically heavy games. Why would they design something for a phone that cant run it well.

With all these new smartphones pushing out amazing cpu and gpu's im sure that we will see some major game companies step up to the bat and start designing for android .. just like they did with iphone once it could support it.

Also remember for many people android is the new baby, just became popular a couple years ago. And look at what has been done. I have owned many windows smartphones that have hads YEARS more time to dev and ive seen way less come out of them.

So yeah, go ahead and switch but i bet in 6-8 months you will be regretting it!
[Fascinate General] martyotaku:
First off...Android phones Ive had.....Moto Droid, Htc Eris, Nexus One, Htc Incredible, Droid X...and now Fascinate.....So please dont tell me what Android is.

And Angry Birds is the simplest game in the world. Yes its fun to pass time....but any Android Phone can run it!!!! ANY!

Im not *****ing and moaning.... well maybe I am just a bit. But come on guys read the post....I said the GPU is overrated because there is nothing that takes advantage of it.....and the wait for OS Updates is ridiculous ....You all know this to be true!!!

Fragmentation is a *****!!

There will be no games or apps built specific for android that will not be built for Iphone....there all ports!!!!!! So please explain the point of the of a stonger GPU than Iphone? Hardware acceleration aside......Opera Browser might be the exception!!
[Fascinate General] tonyb81:
Well a good gpu isn't just for games. It makes for a better browsing experience, better framerates with live wallpapers.

Also I'd like to add that if you bought an Android phone with the slightest amount of research involved you would have known that it isn't a great gaming platform. If games were any priority, you wouldn't have bought an android phone.

Troll harder next time.
[Fascinate General] blazingwolf:
I linked you to games.

Quite whining about fragmentation. That's just a buzz word people like to use instead of the real reason for not creating a product.

So what if there are no games built specifically for Android? Your point would be what? The fact remains that there are games for Android even if your not happy with them.

You could always move to the iPhone. Maybe that would make you feel better.
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
No games take advantage of the GPU.

Thats funny.
[Fascinate General] dmaustin:
I've been checking out the psx emulator lately. It runs extremely smooth on this phone. And there are like 700 games to download for free in the rom buddy app. I'm pretty sure that takes advantage of the bad ass gpu. There are also emulators for several other classic game systems. I grew up playing that stuff, so it's pretty fun to go back to.

And sure we're waiting for froyo, but I don't mind the wait. Fragmentation is only a ***** to those too whiny and impatient to wait for a minimal upgrade. If you're not happy with thee phone now, froyo probably isn't going to be the miracle to change your mind.

Just suck it up and go buy your iPhone... Like all the other dumb girls that roam Jobs' pastures.

Sent from my Samsung Fascinate, Voodoo lag fixed at 1.2ghz. (Until something more comes out!)
[Fascinate General] aphelion02:
Could you please not post here anymore? I have yet to see you type anything on the forums that isn't *****y, whiny, or full of mistaken entitlement. What have you contributed to the community that you deserve anything?

If you want games, froyo or OS updates, wait patiently or go do it yourself. Or better yet, buy a WP7 or iphone and get out of here.
[Fascinate General] mattstakilla:
I have multiple games that take advantage of the gpu

Let's golf!

Nova

Toonwarz

Crusade of destiny

To say there is no games is ignorant.

Is there as many games as iphone?

No. but to say there is none is wrong.

A simple google search for 3d android games will prove you wrong also
[Fascinate General] Daswolven:
Lol. #noobwhine

Win7 Phone will not make much of a splash. It's simply not that impressive. Usually, software companies are not pre-emptive in their design. This is the first round of devices with this level of capability, the apps will follow.
[Fascinate General] bubbleywine:
or go buy your ass a game boy this is a phone if I remember correctly
[Fascinate General] broncobiker:
What they said. When 360 came out there werent many games. You fail
[Fascinate General] gogreenbay07:
Very true! People need to start realizing that a smart phone isn't going to replace everything.
[Fascinate General] martyotaku:
Some of you guys are complete RETARDS!

Your naming games that are PORTS!!!!

My post was what is the point of the Better GPU???????? That is what my post is about!!!!!

Lets golf??? HAHA over a year old on iphone...iphone already has Lets Golf 2

Hardware acceleration???????? NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING Does that Yet!!!! Again NOTHING!!!! Get a grip, you guys are getting mad at me because I speak the truth. Whats the point of the forum???? And dont mention Opera because the beta is a few eeks away and will be released WITHOUT THE HARDWARE ACCELERATION AT THE START!!!!

Wow You guys kill me!
[Fascinate General] K40:
Personally I don't think it would be a full port to take much from iPhone to Android or vice versa. Both are running Unix type systems and libraries. Apples core is based off Mach L

Kernel (FreeBSD) while Android is running off Linux.

While my information may be outdated on Apples part, I refuse to be one of the Sheeple that will eat up Jobs word as gossiple. There is just something about locking down a traditionally open source project and monetizing it that just feels wrong.

Winmo had it's run and Microsoft dropped the ball. Can they recover? Anyone can take a guess, but I don't see it.

With dedicated GPUs being young in Android devices it will take some time for software houses to write new code to take advantage of them. Some of the devs may have written a compiler mod to make transferring existing games source code to GPU compatible easier, but for the most part existing products really won't need those optimizations.

Just my .02
[Fascinate General] billakid:
have fun with wp7 *****boy...Android is not for the weak
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
Define Port. If you mean, a game coded for another platform first, and then RE-CODED for this one, you would be right. Has noting to do with whether or not it uses a GPU.

Doesn't make the argument any less valid.

You aren't very sharp. What are you defining as hardware acceleration? Games cannot run without a GPU unless they are light weight 2D games designed to do so. Download more than solitaire, kthx.

No, you are killing us. My braincells are crying out in pain after reading your nonsense.

PS- SGS phones have hardware accelerated video codecs.
[Fascinate General] bbeaulieu:
You're just a glutton for punishment I think. =P After all those Android phones you've had, you'd think after the first one or two you'd say, "Hey, Android doesn't have enough games, I think I'll switch to a mobile OS with more/better games."

But you go out and buy more Android phones. I think maybe you're the retard. =P
[Fascinate General] Sgtmack:
I can't believe no one has posted this yet;

Don't feed the trolls!
[Fascinate General] jt1134:
Hahahahaha
[Fascinate General] erasmogjr:
Umm i think you already did buddy!

lol
[Fascinate General] broncobiker:
I really really really dont like you.

As stated before...this is new hardware. It takes a little time for software to take advantage of new hardware. If designers made things for hardware that didnt exist they would quickly go bankrupt. Damn you are a complete idiot.
[Fascinate General] K40:
This is very true. Especially from the larger software grinders err developers. To put software out for hardware not readily available would be a foolish gamble they wouldn't likely take.
[Fascinate General] dmasjz45:
This kid clearly touches no cheeks
[Fascinate General] martyotaku:
Android was released in 2008.

Didnt learn anything from Apple or Microsoft.

I just expected more from Google.

And sorry to say as soon as verizon gets a nice windows 7 phone im gone. You all claim im *****ing and moaning.... But its really the few of you. Read my first 2 posts....then you all blew up because noone can speak negative.

Enjoy
[Fascinate General] ibebyi:
NOVA

Hero of Sparta

Dungeon hunter

Assassins creed

Modern combat: sandstorm

ExZeus

Meteor blitz

Need for speed shift

Heavy gunner

Homerun battle

Quake4droid

Quake2droid

Quake3droid

the Sims 3

Crush the castle

Angry birds

...to mention but a few

Have fun buddy ;)

PS Google has nothing to do with 3rd party software development outside of providing a platform upon which to develop. And personally I think their open source philosophy is enviable considering their staggering growth in the smartphone market share over the past year. Look man you're clearly outgunned here :/
[Fascinate General] bbeaulieu:
Alright man, now that you've got all that out of your system, go buy a phone that suits your needs.
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
Or a psp.

good day
[Fascinate General] spaciorek:
WP7 = Refreshed KIN
[Fascinate General] destroyerbmx:
its a phone, I use it to call people and text, way cooler than texting on a dumb fone.
[Fascinate General] BAleR:
Where can I buy nova?
[Fascinate General] dnoyeb:
Can someone tell me what the hell this has to do with development for this phone.
[Fascinate General] saps:
Direct from gameloft:

Nova
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
I guess I missed the part where a game, is not an app.

Lulz.
[Fascinate General] devlp1213:
its the same reason they have hexa-core processors. there is not a single program or that is designed to push it but the people who make the cpu's see how far they can go. same reason here really it's just because they can. there may not be A LOT out for the phones gpu but samsung wanted to see what they could do and since it's something new developing will have to catch up.
[Fascinate General] tats_06:
Martyotaku,

Just like someone mentioned previously, that manufacturers make devices, but it's the developers that make apps and not samsung or google. If this device is not what you were looking for, then get something that you will be happy with. Most people here love the fascinate, android and the open source part of android, therefore you will not have many people side with you.

It would make you happier to have a device that you like and enjoy, than one you hate. Why torture yourself? I think any phone has a primary purpose of being a good phone... everything else is a bonus. ;)
[Fascinate General] martyotaku:
ok.......lets stop!! I didnt want to argue.

Friends!!

Thread Closed
[Fascinate General] jbrdr985:
Steve Jobs pays people to troll on forums now, not just on online articles.

Awesome.
[Fascinate General] leepriestenator:
Guys,

Keep it civil!

OP... Once your ban has been lifted, you need to learn to post things in the right section. This has nothing to do with Development. Moving to General.
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
Why move it? Delete it.

good day.
[Fascinate General] Div033:
I remember this guy, he was the same guy who went around screaming "PS3 HAS NO GAMES!!"

Nice to see you've found a new hobby... oh wait.

Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.
[Fascinate General] Daswolven:
Lol. I have played with 7. It's not impressive. Good luck.
[Fascinate General] Protonus:
What he said. All of those games are high end, high GPU usage, 800x480p games. NFS shift (the full version) is great as well. Though it's not officially listed for our devices, Gameloft's other FPS - Sandstorm - works great on our devices and looks fantastic.

But I'm sure this thread was created for trolling and you're not actually interested in using the GPU of the Fascinate to it's potential :rolleyes:
[Fascinate General] ksizzle9:
Martytoku. As i said the first time... i love you!! Make that into a negative.

MOD Alert: Knock it off ksizzle9. This is the second post you are making about this. Everyone is aware of your feelings for the OP. Stick to the topic!
[Fascinate General] magicriggs:
The more better games are sold off of the market, due to most big companies that develop don't like our markets vulnerabilities. i.e. easily download cracked .apks. that's where in pre gingerbread well be seeing a new market. Gameloft.com sells Android based games that are really amazing. Anyways I can see where the OP is coming from , he is more disappointed that he has a super phone that plays all the same games that other Android phones can play. But he is mistaken on one thing. And that's picture quality combined with an impressive gpu. You put the DX and fascinate together and play NFS shift and you'll see right away the difference in the game. The picture quality is so much better on the fascy, thanks to the super amoled screen. And you'll see the fascinate handles the payload of the game better, thanks to the hummingbird processor. So you see your already taken advantage of the great gpu combined with the great screen. The thing is if you switch to Windows phone 7 , your not going to be able to do as much as the Android can do. Trust me that's from experience. If you need to get a reality check borrow some other Android phone and put it on your account, and play with it for awhile. I think you completely got so use to the fascinate that you need to see how other phones gameplay, everyday ,average use is like. I think you will be surprised. Sorry for trollin but I wanted to see how the fascinate development was going, you guys are going to get 2.2 soon, congrats! :)
[Fascinate General] Mean Sixteen:
Well I just read the OP's posts.

I have to say I don't get it...he has said he wants to return this phone since september 13th.

Since then its been nothing but this phone sucks or "droid X DESTROYS THIS PHONE"

If I was that unhappy with this phone for that long I would most certainly have returned it by now.

I'm thinking...screwy in the head.

Fascinate VooDoo One Point Two
[Fascinate General] chopper the dog:
I was real screwy before a bunch of mod edits.

good day.
[Fascinate General] kolyan:
I would rather have lag-free OS then gaming GPU....
[Fascinate General] adrynalyne:
My os is lag free, what is wrong with yours?
[Fascinate General] tekkitan:
You deserve Windows Phone 7. Go get it and stop posting stupidity.
[Fascinate General] tekkitan:
I just got the Fascinate at work and I couldn't agree more. No lag at all.
[Fascinate General] Kristoferallen:
no need to talk down on windows phone 7 or android. on the game front, developers look at how many devices have been sold to determine if making something is profitable. there aren't too many devices with dedicated gpu's and those devices probably haven't sold enough for the hardcore developers just yet. the samsung galaxy s phones have a great gpu but to only make games that they can handle probably won't happen. from what i hear a lot of developers are excited for the amazon app store so we'll see if that pushes more games to the market front.
[Fascinate General] 313:
Have had both evo and iphone users comment on how fast and responsive my fascinate is during simple games like fruit ninja or even just browsing through the app drawer.. Very impressive hardware.. It gets the job done..Games will come.. Just look at all the recent iphone games hitting the market..

Sent from my rooted & clean SCH-I500
[Fascinate General] leepriestenator:
What about the stock Video Player that comes with the Fascinate? Is it geared up to make full use of the GPU? Is it a multi-format player like TCPMP or is it just limited to a few video formats?

On the HD2 and several other HTC phones, most of the applications don't make use of any hardware acceleration because of lack of drivers. Only the stock apps that are provided by HTC (like the HTC Media player) make use of the acceleration but they're crippled by the fact that they hardly play one or two formats.
[Fascinate General] mirrinigma:
DivX and H264 are hardware accelerated. Includes xvid. Can play DivX at 720p smoothly. Not sure about the H264 because anything I have in that format is mkv'd and all out of phone standard specs.

I hope that when Coreplayer comes out for Android it is good.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deconfrost:
I know this is x10 section, but I don't know where to post this :)

will there be a Sony Ericsson XPERIA X8 sub forum coming? :)

thanks
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SXUsr:
Here - Contact Us
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RPGbig:
Should push work via recovery?
[Desire HD Accessories] liorra3:
I JEST see the first one that crack the DHD screen, we can guess that he will not

be the first one, coz the DHD dont have gorilla glass, and dono - its a big screen

and glass, so its make him to risky for drops and so...

so i think that to put some screen protector to the phone, its must have, but dono

if its help for cracks? or mybe jest for scratchs? and hi is the screen have anti scratchs screen ?
[Desire HD Accessories] NoEnd:
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/3598/htc-desire-hd-screen-protector-sp-p430
[Desire HD Accessories] eozen81:
So Far,

My preference about screen protector has always been "BestSkinsEver". Used for my PMP Cowon A2, Iphone 3Gs as well. It's so clear once you want to remove it from the device. No left dust or something.

http://www.bestskinsever.com/cell-phones/smart-phones?limit=25&manufacturer=19

Of course no spesific skin for Desire HD but you can order DIY size which means you can shape it whatever you need. At least that's what I do :) Advise you to check it out.

[YOUTUBE]CCh7FY2UvhM[/YOUTUBE]
[Desire HD Accessories] DarrenT:
The cracked screen wouldn't have been saved by a screen protector, the phone was dropped from a height by accident onto a concrete floor. If the phone had landed differently it would have been fine.

I've never put a screen protector on my Hero and it looks brand new. Just don't put the phone in your pocket with change or keys or anything.
[Desire HD Accessories] dazultra2000:
Just to let you guys know, a screen protector is ESSENTIAL.

I already apparently seem to have some sort of graze on the screen - barely noticable - but I've had it for 24 hours...

Definately not a scratchproof screen by any means.
[Desire HD Accessories] superdaddy:
Where to get one from
[Desire HD Accessories] liorra3:
i order 3 units form handset and 2 more from clove, all of them the original p430 from htc. i think that handset is the cheapest one here.
[Desire HD Accessories] wakers:
Nightmare be keeping an eye on my screen i've not had anything on my HD2 for nearly a year and its totally scratch free i just used the leather pouch that came with the phone which fits my Desire nicely also :-)
[Desire HD Accessories] deekod:
Anyone know where to get a zagg for the DHD?
[Desire HD Accessories] AndyCr15:
I just ordered a Brando Anti Glare from Brando.com. Was $12 (£7.60?) including shipping to the UK, so not a bad price...
[Desire HD Accessories] dazultra2000:
Got my HTC screen protectors today. Very basic item. Ruined the first with dust but second has gone on ok. Seems to reduce screen accuracy a bit, but is very clear and feels quite tough.

Will replace with an invisibleshield when they finally appear.
[Desire HD Accessories] cd993:
I have my full body protection ready to install from Dev Def. Never heard of them before and so hoping theres no orange peel effect, loss of sensitvity and that it fits well etc. Will provide a review (with pictures, but not high quality sadly as will be from my G1) as soon as i receive it later this week!

http://www.devdef.com/products/for-htc-desire-hd
[Desire HD Accessories] SkzBR:
Zagg already have the EVO 4G protection, we cannot use those? i think that are small diferences...
[Desire HD Accessories] broncogr:
Great. Brando Workshop screen protectors are out for the desire HD.

I have used them for my last 5 last HTC phones and have always been of great quality and lasted me for a year at least.

You can find them here : http://shop.brando.com/index.php under What's new.

I have always used the UltraClear ones with great results.
[Desire HD Accessories] liorra3:
i have really weird issue with the phone, i try and try 6 sets of genesis thc Screen Protectors, and they all the same

issue - i get 2 bubble on the left, and its un removable, that is NOT my issue i try and make dozens of screen Protectors,

and the HTC SP430 is great prodact, same size as the phone.

i think and sure its the phone, and it will go with the time, dono its like not flat phone (lol)?
[Desire HD Accessories] miggel:
Already have a (little) scratch on my screen. After 4 days.

And while I tried to be really carefull, because I was waiting for my sleeve and protector.

Well, worse things can happen. But I think it is a must have.
[Desire HD Accessories] AndyCr15:
You might have tiny specs of dirt/grit at those two points, really hard to get out right at the edge?
[Desire HD Accessories] dazultra2000:
WEIRD! I have exactly the same 2 bubbles in mine! Must be a design flaw. Almost as if those 2 points reject the protector. Oddness
[Desire HD Accessories] SiliconS:
Doesn't the HD come with a screen protector in the box? :o
[Desire HD Accessories] broncogr:
No it does not.
[Desire HD Accessories] LeviathanPT:
Ive received today the HTC Screen Protector SP P430 for HTC Desire HD A9191/A9192 ( Two versions, could this be the black and brown?!) so i thought on posting here some decent images of the front and back of the screen protector.

http://leviathan.planetaclix.pt/CIMG2190.JPG

http://leviathan.planetaclix.pt/CIMG2193.JPG

Btw: Why the hell HTC sell this and they didnt bothered to place it on their phone from the begining ? :|
[Desire HD Accessories] deekod:
Zagg have a DHD protector..

http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-desire-hd-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

All I need now is a UK supplier!
[Desire HD Accessories] dazultra2000:
Zagg are a UK supplier though. I've ordered from them loads of times. Comes from Manchester!
[Desire HD Accessories] dragon546:
CPW resells ZAGG products in their stores.
[Desire HD Accessories] LeviathanPT:
That looks way better than the HTC screen protector, is there UK Shop with it in stock at the moment ?
[Desire HD Accessories] liorra3:
Is it better than the htc sp ?
[Desire HD Accessories] LeviathanPT:
Well i just tried one of them over a glass table and it didnt scratch the glass, but it doesnt seem to be very trustworthy i think it could have hit the screen in 1 or 2 spots. I think ill use this only temporary untill i get one of those.
[Desire HD Accessories] ffff:
Just received some official HTC screen protectors, ordered from Handtec. Don't bother. They are HORRIBLE. Fitting a screen protector is already a bit like pulling teeth, this makes it an even grimmer experience.

I get the same two little spots that won't stick as everyone else. These are, funnily enough, right where the little tab was on the peel-off back.

There are two in the pack. The first one had a big patch on one side near the corner which was clearly buckled. When you try and smooth it down, it actually pops up and down with an audible popping sound. I haven't summoned the will to try the second one yet.

They have the feel and quality of a Lidl carrier bag, and the edges are like they've been hacked out of a sheet by a two-year-old wielding plastic scissors.

I also got the official HTC pouch from Handtec. It's OK. It fits, looks ... OK. You have to put the phone in upside down if you want to access the headphone jack though.