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[HD2 General] dharvey4651:
You all knew it was coming... Thread closed.

kcfong2 might I advise you to post the same information in the thread mentioned by kurt-willems if it hasn't already been posted in that thread? It would probably be far more useful to users in that thread than creating an entire new thread.

Regards,

dharvey4651
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pele78:
SamFirmware have tweeted that Samsung are working on a new fast rom to be released in November ? Possible to UK and so on ?

Maybe they have seen that SGS is not running at peak performance ?

Anyone else have news on this ?

:)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] T3rry1:
samsung is full of lies, i'll believe it when i see it,

I love their devices, but the support leaves a lot to be desired.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dehem333:
Lets hope it , till than voodoo which works great!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nandihno:
How many times have they said is going to be released and then they say.. sorry next week.. next month.. is like the kid that cries wolf

Don't know know now to care anymore or to be excited then come November they will say December.. very unprofessional if used ask me.

According to samfirmware Samsung are also thinking of going ginger bread for galaxy s... yea maybe by 2012
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pmos69:
Several reports say the scandinavian 2.2 kies release has been pulled...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] opica:
from samfirmware@twitter:

'We got this information from our Samsung insiders. Samsung is also thinking about Android 3.0 for Galaxy S.'

LoL, how about that to puzzle your mind :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Darkimmortal:
I don't honestly see why they would do that...

Glad I got it while I could though :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] psp888:
As they are thinking about Gingerbread, they will probably announce they are ditching 2.2 to focus on getting 3.0 onto the SGS, lol
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pmos69:
http://goo.gl/9UOW
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mozzboiDK:
Some say that gingerbread will be 2.5 :O
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Will.1:
yea... i'll believe it when i see it as well.

it's samsung don't forget. Great product, terrible support (although comming from an Omnia II with absolute 0 support, they are getting better)

They still lack the experience of HTC and such in high end smarphones for tech savy ppl
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cheetah2k:
Same $hit, Same smell = Samsung......
[Galaxy S I9000 General] snapper87:
With the Galaxy S, I became a new Samsung Mobile customer and I'm a little bit disappointed. Not because of the froyo delays, i can survive that. But the lack with standard rfs is horrible given the technical specs this phone has.

Nevertheless, Samsung is one of the best manufactures for notebooks and TVs. In Germany, their support for notebooks is perfect. I've got experiences for a long time with these guys...

Let's wait a few more weeks, life goes on.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lokhor:
If Samsung are seriously considering Gingerbread they will need to up their game - their current speed of development is appalling. If Gingerbread becomes the most popular Android platform in the near future I will definitely consider selling and switching to HTC (Desire Z/HD)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] schiphol:
Yes they are a great company, just don't have a clue about firmware development.

Symbian on Samsung sucked, bada sucks and now android on Samsung sucks as well. They should just focus on the hardware and leave the firmware development to Google. That's not ever going to happen though so I guess we'll just wait for the next nexus, which I still believe will be developed eventually.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] huxflux2003:
I don't really think it sucks. You are exaggerating. JP6 is fine for me even without any tweaks. Putting the Tab Browser lib and voodoo makes it very very good. I've seen lots of android (and not only) smartphones and the SGS is miles ahead.

I believe most of the people here are just whiners, whatever product they use.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] songyop:
I agree with your statement.

People need to remember that the Galaxy S phones have been in the market place for only about four months now. Many so-called "promises" have been speculative promises by random people, not by Samsung. They only promised to release the Froyo update when it's ready around September or October, and they are trying to keep that promise with the recent release in Europe. If you have any understanding of the software development and testing process, providing a major update in four months after the initial release of the product isn't great but not horrible as people say. Besides, we have great fixes that make the phone work really well now anyway. Just use these fixes and be a little patient! ^^ I love my Galaxy S for now...many thanks to VooDoo project and Samsung for at least giving us a great HW device!

BTW, I heard, from the most popular Korean Android website community- iroidcafe, that they discovered some issues with the JPM version and therefore, are pulling the release momentarily to fix the discovered issues before continuing to release the Froyo to the rest.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] waltibaba:
Wait Samsung are thinking? Didn't know they could do that. If they thought about it a little, they would take care of their customers better. A modern-day twelve year old has a higher level of skill in communication than their entire PR section. Actually, based on the mess they call Kies, that twelve year old might be better at programming, too...

Their hardware is pretty awesome though.

OK returning to subject, loosely translated that means a 5-10% faster ROM is coming out in february? march maybe? I have stopped believing them a while ago.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bdaton:
who cares?

I can't upgrade to it anyway, until now I can't make Kies working for my SGS..

(still have no gut to flash using odin..)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nzroman:
Samsung = the worst aftersale support I have ever experienced. And, I haven't had major issues. I would hate to think what it would be like if this phone started playing up (like for some on this forum). Really gives Android the bad name. Hardware = top of the line, no argument about this.

Here is a noble idea Samsung. Spending a little more on your communication to the public will increase our support for your brand. Don't lie or guess. Over estimate rfs dates for releases. You will be suprised how long people are prepared to wait, if they know the

exact

date. If you company has no credibility with your customers however, no matter what promises you will be making, you simply will be laughed at.

I personally do not believe anything that Samsung are saying. This is my first and the last purchase from this company.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] daft.71:
But you then have to understand that you're no longer use an official Samsung phone. voodoo makes you use another kernel, and another file system on system partitions. It stopped being a Samsung phone when you did that and void your whole argument.

The basic argument was that Samsung makes great hardware, but the software sucks. You then told them, you're wrong! It's really nice, once you change the software.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] baste07:
still on eclair with lag fix and memory killer i have no complains anyways. not really a must to upgrade to froyo unless it has something new (aside from just perfromance)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nicoloco:
Stay in eclair if you are fine with it !!

I did upgrade to froyo JP6/JPM and now I have 10 time more FC on app which have always worked before ...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Alexander13:
I was using Jp6 before I went and almost bricked my phone. It was great. Awesome battery life, a little lag, no force closes. I bought this phone because they told me it would support 3.0. I don't really care for froyo, because besides performance it doesn't add anything new visual wise.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Harts@J:
Don't agree, the worst TV which I have owned is Samsung. Great technical specs and awful software, never got reasonable colours.

I just hope to get good three-party applications to replace all Samsung attempts. RFS is like to put the MS-DOS to the top-class laptop.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pele78:
Interesting posts here.... Keep them coming and keep em clean of course. :)

I guess its a case of watch this space for official news.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] anoneemooz:
I honestly believe that...

1. Gingerbread will never reach the SGS. Froyo is taking forever and even when it's already somewhat released it's still sub par in many aspects without the use of a lag fix. Even with a lag fix some issues still don't work properly (GPS for most people). I don't want to be too negative, but at this rate Gingerbread is just highly unlikely. I'll be thankful and love Samsung if they do give the SGS the Gingerbread treatment, but I'm not expecting it as of the moment. If they clean up their Froyo release really soon, then I would have some hope of them working on Gingerbread next. We'll see.

2. Even if they are working on a new fast ROM for the SGS, the release date of November is hard to believe. December maybe. I won't be so pessimistic as to say that it will never happen. They technically already have Froyo up and running albeit with less than satisfactory performance...they just need to work on optimizing everything and scrapping the awful stuff all together (RFS). A month or two to do this seems generous enough.

3. Samsung should work on a hotfix for the GPS to resolve most if not all issues once and for all. It's really a mix bag for everyone in terms of GPS performance and Samsung should really look into why that is.

They don't have to tie in the update to fix GPS with the update to fix everything else. Simply fixing the GPS will ease the minds of a lot of people since that has been a HUGE factor contributing to the dissatisfaction of SGS users.

4. Samsung should be posting progress reports and changelogs or something somehow. It really helps ease the minds of the restless and it shows their customers that they are indeed working and what exactly they are currently working on in time for the next firmware release. This would keep people loyal and more patient IMHO. By updates I don't mean random Samsung twitters and facebook posts and rumors saying that this or that release is coming "soon" or whatever.

I get this idea from closel following project voodoo. I always find it comforting to read the twitter updates on the side about what issues they are currently working on, what issues that have been reported and will be addressed soon, and if they are in the testing phase already.

The leaked firmwares do help but doing this would help even more IMHO.

:D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] appelflap:
Froyo is a .2 update and it isn't a giant step forwards, but.. it does add several interesting things like flash support, bluetooth HID support (for bluetooth keyboards), new api's and hence new apps like for example Car Dock by Google, a better gmail client etc.

Who told you that the Galaxy S would support 3.0?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lugi93:
Galaxy S sold, my problems are gone. Try it :rolleyes:

Samsung is full of :mad:

So glad that WP7 is out and Samsung can't screw that up as it did with Android updates and promises. Cuz MS is strict!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] scarlet_pimp:
Gutted about the Galaxy S being so crap. I have a HTC Desire, and when I heard the Galaxy S Specs I was thinking I should get rid of my phone and get the Galaxy. Based on my opinion my missus got a Galaxy and a mate at work, and I'm very embarrassed now as have to keep saying it will get better once 2.2 comes out.

My missus wants to snap the phone in half some times, the wifi on it is terrible, while I’m browsing over wifi she, sat next to me won’t be able to get any page to load and will have to switch to 3g. Also it painfully slow to open certain apps, and update apps.

Hate to say but my experience of the Galaxy S is very low right now, hope that the problems are ironed out in this next update and soon or I think I will have to advise her to sell and get a new phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pele78:
I think in my opinion, froyo was never complete and was very rushed. Samsung was under alot of public and press pressure to meet deadlines. They had no choice but to release a incomplete but stable froyo, to keep everyone sweet, im pretty sure they are aware of the file system issue and etc, and prove me wrong, samsung knows that they have five million plus customers, they have to keep happy or its gonna come back hard in there face, and no company wants to lose customers in times of a recession!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] appelflap:
To be honest I never had any problems (no lag probs, don't do much heavy database editing on my device :p; hardly any GPS probs) with my Galaxy S. I think it's pretty much the best device I ever had (and i'm around since the palm pilot days).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] exadeci:
My hopes are that the reason why it took so long for samsung to release froyo it that they where already working on Gingerbread and not caring a lot about Froyo anymore :D:D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] EarlZ:
I doubt we will get much improvement on the performance on the firmwares that we are getting as of now.. probably dec or maybe even next year would be my best bet!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] opica:
Went from JG1 to JP5 (JPM modem), and have no GPS problems. Satellite lock happens in under 1 minute, it's accurate to the meter. Went for a drive last night (for about 20km) and had no problems - the route was accurate all the time. And of course I'm not using gmaps, but Navigon.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] danmullen:
Agree 100% with these two posters - well said.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] almaalma74:
Oh little guy, you are too new in mobile stuff/gadget biz, win mo always was crap (maybe u didnt use it before, but me did 1997-2008) and it always will left crap.

And if u already did hero from win mo just pry into the wp7 forums, not so sweet is everything.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lugi93:
I've done em "all" no worries (skipped apple madness).. and next is WP7, cuz galaxy s (sw) is a big disappointment :mad: Just not that snappy as it should be

If WP7 failes next alternative is ios i guess :rolleyes:

& I'm out of this galaxy s topics, gl with samsung android :eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cicer0:
Good luck with WP7, hope you've seen this:

Main disadvantages:

No system-wide file manager

No videocalling

Limited third-party apps availability

No Bluetooth file transfers

No USB mass storage mode

No multitasking

No copy/paste

Too dependent on Zune software for computer file management and syncing

No music player equalisers

No Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser

No sign of free Bing maps Navigation so far

No DivX/XviD video support

No internet tethering support

New ringtones available only through the Marketplace

Swapping memory card requires hard reset; cards not readable by computer
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dehem333:
Couldn't agree any more , bye whiners :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dani31:
No producer is better.

I've had a HTC Kaiser for two years - there was class action suit against them over the 3D capabilities which were advertised but never supported in the video driver.

I've also had several Symbian phones from Nokia and waited YEARS for fixes that never came.

Regarding the SGS I can safely say it's a good device with excellent real-life performance, very stable and fully featured out-of-the-box. I doubt that the people who complain have any real-life usage issues. Quadrant scores and lag with 1000 apps installed is NOT real-life.

Even GPS works well if you just want to get to the address. If your purpose in life is to measure its accuracy then yes probably its not so good.

It's also selling extremelly well so Samsung WILL support it a long time from now on. Just be patient, most of you have had it probably for less than one month and already cry for something else.

You're in the wrong forum my friend. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] exadeci:
I agree too of course, the worst thing about the SGS was the GPS now with JPM I get fix in seconds and with around 25 meters of precision (I was on road crossing and it showed me exactly where I was). And for the first time even the compass was precise, the maps blue arrow was showing intstantly where I was heading at.

Now some people complain about speed but since froyo there are NO REAL speed issues (I've seen that with JPK, JPH and now JPM), yes you could have a faster file system like a lot of people are releasing but the counterpart of this faster FS is that it drains our battery way faster and is only useful/noticeable while launching games like Asphalt 5, now maybe that Jfs could be a good alternative being generally faster and with lower cpu usage http://devrand.org/show_item.html?item=16&page=Project

The last and the least the ram, I won't waste words with the ones that Can't understand.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
idk why im posting but i am!

- gps: still not so good even if its decent now. it's a shame because it looks like a software issue. its mostly on par with many other phones in JPM however

- lag: disagree, use the phone for 2 or 3 weeks with a decent amount of apps (like 30+) and real usage (not just phoning, but browse the web, play games etc like 1H a day) it does eventually get ultra lagged even on JPK, (didnt have JPM for long enough to say but its most likely)

-ram: disagree, the phone would use the extra ram, while its "ok" not to have 512megs visible to the system, 304megs is a huge diff, and we do hit "out of memory" situations, that we wouldn't if they had been a bit more honest (like they have been in the Galaxy Tab, so they did realize it was wrong)

The thing is, while it would still have a few imperfections, with those 3 points fixed (most likely the ram is not fixable), it would be hand down the best smart phone, instead of "good but with issues"
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Segitz:
But the phone DOES use the RAM, even if it's not visible to the user! It's not magically gone. The GSM uses it, the GPU uses it... etc. Even my PC, which has officially 2x2GB of RAM has only 3.8GB free (in BIOS no less). It gets used for other stuff, normal users shouldn't give a crap about.

Also with the GPS... for recording tracks, I agree... it sucks (got MUCH better, though), but for navigation, it's MORE than adequate. Most older TomToms are WAY less accurate, and still work.

Lag... well, with Voodoo or OCLF, it works... a friend has the Desire, and there's basically no difference in look and feel, in OS. Mine is actually faster in most usage areas.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] t1mman:
About the ram... you know you can close the applications when you don't use it eh?

What are you using so that it takes all the memory?

I've done a test, opend:

Sportypal (For workong)

Music Player (for music while working out!)

Internet (well... let's say I,ve decided to go check out redflagdeals forums while i'm at it)

GPS Speedo... (Lets say I,d like to see my speed wider...)

Quadrant (what the heck, lets bench this bad boy while i'm at it)

Now, let see... 261Mb taken... still some left on the 326mb available...

So, unless you're running some kind of server on your phone, I can't imagine what is opened so that it takes all this ****load of ram :|
[Galaxy S I9000 General] celeronix:
To the people who constantly complain: SELL or throw away your SGS and buy iPhone (or whatever) and make your life pinkish and shinier !!!

I've read some ridiculous comments in this thread. You have to understand that Samsung is not a stupid company. They are in the business long enough. With 5+ millions SGS sold they will never abandon their flag-ship product so easily (like some of you say). This is not serious! What do you think, that Samsung will stop supporting SGS in 2 months and start developing another device!?!?!? Who will buy it? I assume that they are not so stupid to do that. Think clear! I had enough of reading BS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] exadeci:
Watch:

http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI

And read:

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html

http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html#proclife
[Galaxy S I9000 General] thunderteaser:
This just means that JPM/JP6 is not the official Froyo. Personally, I'm enjoying JP6 and I'm very glad that Samsung is working on a new fast ROM. This would just mean that they can do better than JP6. I would have been angry if they stopped Froyo development, but they're still working on it, so what's about all the fuss? These is just my humble opinion.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] crabjoe:
I'm trying to figure out why everyone says Samsung makes "Awesome" hardware. I feel Samsung has really good specs on the hardware they produce, but the hardware just doesn't seem to work the way they say. No matter how good the specs are, if it doesn't do what it's supposed to do, it's no wear near "awesome!"

It seems Samsung likes to market on specs, but when it comes to a finished product, they're just not there. Remember, a finished product not only needs to have specs, but they need to work. This means the design, software and quality control all has to be there. I don't know where Samsungs problems are, but I'm really thinking it's a design issue. The design on the SGS seems to be borderline, so quality control doesn't seem to be good enough to make everything work right. Maybe a bit to much solder here and there causing antenna interference. Who knows, but it seems Samsung is trying to fix these issues with software, but software can't over come a hardware deficiency. Software can mask an issue, but it can't truly fix something the hardware can't do.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
I want to use exactly the same apps I use on the nexus One and not have problems with low RAM.

I think that I don't expect too much from a phone with "512 MB of RAM"

I'm tired of reading post blaming users when the one to blame is the SGS and the implementation that Samsung has done.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Oletros:
Why I have to buy an iPhone?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sonci:
I really wonder how do you use your phone,

I mean 20 application in the background?!! browse the web, listen to music, ebook reader, camera, a little game, and all in the same time??

even on my multicore desktop when I open too much firefox windows there`s some lag,

However if another similar priced phone can do this without lagging than we have to expect this from Galaxy too,

All people here seem to agree that SGS has great hardware, and since hardware is not only GPU and CPU, but also buit quality, well

This was the first phone in my life who broke on the very first drop, from not more than 60cm heigh,

The built quality of my SGS bought in Italy is a joke..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] exadeci:
Yeah it's a smartphone, not for kids

Off topic ?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xASJobjD68

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7-OBoDFeDY
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pele78:
Christ....i really don't wanna see a comparison topic here.... Simple as.... Open source, can't compare with that.

Samsung only needs to improve....and I'm sure they will.

Yes I get lag sometimes, but in the real world, it don't matter what device you have you will still have lag after a long period of use if you don't reset your device! Lets get that straight! Maybe in 5 years max time the new bios will be standard and things like this will be a thing of the past.

Don't know why people selling the sgs to go with something that is still playing catch up to the young open source android.

I'm still pretty sure samsung will ditch the rfs system at some point...question is when....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sonci:
Oh believe me, smart guy, that`s should be the phone samsung developed for James Bond,

Try to drop yours on the asphalt, and then we talk..