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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] goncrack:
True. I experience the same thing. But you have to remember why it's there in the first place. Sense is almost a replacement of WiMo(Not hiting towards the OS part)

The entire UI is redone and every single click is done in sense with no direct interaction with WiMo. And we can both agree, HTC did a good job with the sense. I myself was on a 1st Gen Samsung Omnia before i got my HTC TP2, and that was with a stock WiMo and only included stuff like a dial-app, and a mp3 player and stuff like that. Everything else including SMS was done directly in WiMo and i will take A Memory hog over that any day.

That being said, there is stuff HTC or Developers here could do:

Isolate the biggest RAM-Sink. You mention gwes.exe yourself(Which is actually not HTC but Microsoft)* And try to find out why they continuesly take up more and more ram and try to fix it.

Split up sense so different tasks are handled by different applications, which after you are done can be killed with easy to save RAM(Composing Email/SMS, Weather Check, Contactlist, Music player, ETC ETC.) I know some of this is already done, but there more could be done more.

Work on how do decrease RAM usage for different parts of Sense. Maybe even contact some Developers from this community or other communities(A_C of S2 would be a great place to start)

*)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] rete:
The WinMo 6.5 Start Menu is the biggest memory hog of all. You can improve things dramatically by disabling the standard start menu and using either QuickMenu or OCMan's start menu replacement.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=621800

http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...8000-modaco-com/318725/free-up-even-more-ram/

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7937478&postcount=16392

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=711914

To disable the start menu, use one of Arto's Start Menu Remove cabs.

To restore your start menu use one of Hayami's Start Menu Restore cabs:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7690749&postcount=43

Use the ControPanel_shotcuts download to activate Settings in QuickMenu.

I start up with 94MB Ram on a Tilt 2 with dozens of apps installed, and it's typically at 75MB after a week.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] GWelker62:
I am already familiar with gwes.exe. Been in the WinMo world long enough to know by now it is part of the OS. ;)

I don't mind a resource hog myself, makes for faster operation... if... you have enough resources to go around. But this phone just doesn't have enough memory to multitask with Sense running too.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] GWelker62:
I would agree, or better yet, Sense is an effort to make some of the WinMo apps finger friendly and intuitive. For the most part they succeded. I would take exception to some, like Contact editing. While their contact editor is FF, I still find myself clicking the more button to enter data, and back to WinMo's contact editor it goes.

Edit: and another waste IMO, is the drop-down menus. I like the look and feel of the WinMo menus better.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] GWelker62:
Thanks for the links, time for some more reading. :)

Sometimes I wish I could just be a noob tho... have someone hold my hand and guide me... step... by... step. :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cajunflavoredbob:
Quickmenu was mentioned above. One user, colossus_r has gone the extra mile and included all the settings in his version of Quickmenu. I used to use his version before NRGZ28 started cooking it into his ROMs.

If you do decide to use any version of QuickMenu, it would behoove you to increase the distance between the items in the menu. This give a better look to the menu as well as making it more finger-friendly. Do do this (after installing everything, of course), bring up Quickmenu, and tap QuickMenu > Option > View tab, and then set Menu item edge to 16.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] o0adam0o:
Bookmarking this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] charles_13:
I know the problem you speak of, and my solution was to use cleanRAM.exe. Great little program, you can choose how "deep" it cleans, is fast, and it does the job quite well. After a run, it has brought RAM usage down to ~%50, or about 90mb, with Sense on. It's the one program I brought over from my old Q9, and I'm glad I did.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] DavidinCT:
I really liked Sense/TF3D (or what ever you call it), till I tried to run 3rd party apps. A few games would not even run, others would start after a few min.

NFS shift will not even run with it running but, with Sense turned off, it runs fine on my TP2... Stock rom (well, Mr. X's fixed stock rom), with no Sense (just 6.5) I will boot up my phone with 90mb+ free.

It's just too bad that apps don't run right under it..or I would use it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] jcxtreme30:
Without flashing a custom rom your limited... however if you download the htcAddicts.com cleanRam and run it after you open and close 2 or more apps, you will find it will free up alot of memory as your correct the stock sense rom leaks and uses memory like a monster.. Hope ya try this im sure you'll be pleased.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] GWelker62:
The 15 day trial for Mobile Shell ran out for me. Decided I didn't wanna use Mobile Shell, so uninstalled it. Ran Sense again... and within 15mins phone is lagging and or locking up. Memory dropped below 20meg.. :mad:

Time to load a custom rom... or learn to cook my own. Me tinks the at$t rom would be just fine, if I can unload all the gawd dam bloatware.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cajunflavoredbob:
If you don't want a custom ROM, the easiest way to reclaim memory is to replace the Start Menu. It, by itself, eats about 20MB of RAM ALL THE TIME! :eek:

QuickMenu is a favorite of mine. There are several Start Menu replacements, though. NRGZ28 has 5 options cooked into the Energy ROMs.

Also, check \Windows\Start Up folder to see what you can remove from there. The stock TMoUS ROMs were easy to clean up that way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] GWelker62:
Working on that option this week to see how it works.

I haven't done a hard reset yet either and started over. I normally install apps and tweak a lot after installing a new rom, then hard reset and only install/tweak what I liked. Haven't done that yet with the latest at$t rom.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] F2504x4:
I was the same way with my old tilt, roms,roms and more roms ..then i got the new tilt2 , kept it stock for the first year , i played with several add-on's even had Mobile Shell which i loved but the phone was a bit too laggy, i then bit the bullet this past month and installed the lastest rom upgrade from AT&T reinstalled Mobile Shell ,:rolleyes: still was not happy about performance, so I finally broke down Hspld and then found basically a stock rom with all the garbage removed..:eek::D .wowsers finally it was fast and stable with Mobile Shell (disliked sense) . So what i am getting at, is to go ahead and make the plunge unlock it flash the simplest rom ....I am a business user so my phone is very important to me in keeping my wallet supplied with greenbacks..

the biggest reason i like Mobileshell is it is easy to use and has as many favorite people that i want listed...have about twenty manufacturers on the that page ..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] F2504x4:
Not much of a difference, the boatware kills the upgrade..not really worth it IMO
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] junior_8791:
rofl

Ok look as much as I do agree with you that on a stock rom with very little fixes and alterations the sense ui may take up tons of memory. BUT!!!!!! On a custom rom with minor adjustments it works great, I use it to on a day to day bases with the energy rom and it completely keeps up with me. Battery life is great I get live update for e-mails, use it to do some research on the net and i utilize all that sense brings together. In other words all I'm really trying to say is, HTC made a great job consolidating all these tools that we use on a day to day bases into a single ui. If u were to run individual programs to do everything that sense brings together, ur phone would be as slow as Forest Gump from lack of memory.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] japper88:
Try flashing EnergyROM! NGRZ added some different start menu options than can save 20-30 mbs or ram, it makes using SenseUI snappy!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] crazyC:
Personally I try to keep things moving by:

Removing all sense tabs I do not want - leaving ONLY Home/People/TEXT/EMAIL/weather/settings

I use the windows calendar, I do not use HTC messaging but the windows one, I use Nitrogen for music, I have the Album (for photos) linked to a shortcut

I remove the start menu and use Xtask.

I overclock to 710 during the day.

I use an older (lighter) version of CHT that does what I need (1.6.1 I think)
[EVO 4G Accessories] ycats:
Would a place like Radio Shack have a cord that would connect my EVO to my Mustang's Line In port so I can listen to my .mp3's?
[EVO 4G Accessories] tech411:
Walmart, Radio Shack, Best Buy all them should have them.
[EVO 4G Accessories] bryank930:
I can custom make one for you if you'd like. 3.5 feet long. $20 shipped in the USA.

Canare microphone cable, nylon sheathing.

I can get pics of the one I have pre-made later tonight.
[EVO 4G Accessories] jskoch:
I get all my cables at monoprice.com

They are by far the cheapest and I have never had a problem with any that I've ordered. Shipping is quick too. Click "cable" at the top and then "Audio Cables - RCA / 3.5mm" on the left. You are looking for "3.5mm Stereo Plug/Plug M/M Cable - 6ft or 12ft or 25ft or 50ft" A 6 foot cable will run you .65, yes 65 cents. Might as well grab a couple extra micro usb cables for a buck or so each and an HDMI adapter for your Evo.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ausch30:
+1 for monoprice

I get all my cables from there, can't beat the prices. A couple weeks ago I bought a 6' RCA to 3.5mm cable from them for about $2. A shorter, cheaper version of the same cable at RS was about $15.

http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp
[EVO 4G Accessories] Max_Pain:
i got my cable from amazon i think. it was like $5 and comes with a line-in microphone. it's great 'cause i can listen to music, when a call comes in answer and just talk as the microphone picks up my voice very well, and keep going, without having to unplug the line-in to speak (which will happen if you use the line-in without a microphone!)
[EVO 4G Accessories] akastixx:
link or gtfo
[EVO 4G Accessories] thx0849:
If the mustang has SYNC just use the bluetooth audio it works great and you can even change tracks from the steering wheel. Otherwise any 3.5mm m/m cable will work fine.
[EVO 4G Accessories] nhutpham:
I use a cable without a microphone, but since I have a car mount I can just talk and the phone picks up my voice just fine, and I hear the other line over my speakers.

I drive a MINI and had an issue with the auxillary in port of the headunit, as it wouldn't recognize my phone was attached when I was also charging my phone at the same time, due to some kind of ground loop issue. I got the Kensington noise reduction cable from amazon (you can use any ground loop isolator circuit, the cable I got just looks nicer) and this problem was fixed.
[EVO 4G Accessories] cybertek3:
What cable did you buy?

Do you have a link?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Accessories] Max_Pain:
Hadn't seen your replies guys...I'll try to find the link when I get home tonight...

Swyped from my HTC Evo 4G on the MetroPCS 1X network!
[EVO 4G Accessories] ycats:
bought one from Radio Shack, plugs into the headphone part of the EVO then to the auxiliary port in the car.............however, playing my songs comes out in only one of my car's speakers, what's up with that?
[EVO 4G Accessories] cybertek3:
Make sure both ends are pushed all the way in, happened to me before.

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[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] rom-g:
Hi all

Can somebody tell me if there's a way to enable "crossfading" with the default Samsung Galaxy S audio player ?

If not, does this fonctionnlity exists in another android audio player ?

Thanks for answers.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ogkhaze:
Do you have the SLCD screen, this time around?

Clockworkmod just released a new version of recovery for SLCD screen user's...

I don't know if this could be the problem or not, just sharing what I know.

Hope you get this figured out!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cnlwatkins:
How do u know if it is a slcd screen
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gqstatus0685:
I'm using King's #11 kernel with Fresh's latest. My question is if I flash to Cyanogen 6.1 (when it's released) does the kernel follow to that ROM? I don't want to flash another ROM and run into problems.

Sent while sitting on the toilet.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omegasun18:
most roms include there own kernel which will over write any existing kernel you have. CM 6.1 I am positive will have a kernel package with it.

It is safe to assume you wont have any issues
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wmdunn:
Also ... be sure to do a nand back up before flashing the new rom. That will preserve,, not only your rom, but your kernel as well ... just in case you want to return to it.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Duce HD2:
So I had the same problem as many out there, got the OTA update from tmobile, tried to install it, installation failed, screen stuck on vibrant. OK! So I dowloaded ODIN, followed all instrunctions, was able to wipe and reinstall to stock with no problems.

The problem is when I try to update the new OTA J16 with ODIN, it starts the process, makes to where it says factory... and doesn't go any further, I waited up to 15 minutes one time. I haven't seen anyone else with the same issue...can plese someone help???

Help much appreciated...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] starkiller86:
I can't post links, but try this ROM out it worked for me. Search for this:

[TUTORIAL][ROM] How to fix your phone and apply the update

It lets you go back to stock then update to ji6.

Hope this helps.

EDIT:

Be sure you don't have re-partition clicked when your trying to update to JI6
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Duce HD2:
I'm already back to stock as I said in my first post (re-partition, 512, original) That wasn't a problem, the problem is when I try to update to j16, it loads about half way then it freezes. I don't understand why! WTF!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zylograth:
Try using mini kies to perform the update.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epakrat75:
Wow. Yet another poster referring to the the update as J ONE 6. Where are you seeing this? :confused: Not that it matters much but it's J EYE SIX and will affect searching to a degree.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Duce HD2:
Sorry.....J-I-6 my bad.

Thanks, I'll give mini a shot
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lqaddict:
What version of ODIN did you try? v1.3 proved to be more stable than v1.0
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Duce HD2:
I tried both versions, V1 first a few times, then V1.3, both with the same results. Followed instructions to the T. It'S funny cause the full reinstall back to stock was smooth, and i did that a few times as well, since when it froze, I was forced to.
[Vibrant General] Apexsilverevo:
Yeah pretty dumb question but I did the update but forgot to unroot and lag fix, but it went through the motions which seemed fast like under 2 mins. It then started up like normal and didn't lose root or anything. What's the best way to make sure you are running the update? Thanks!
[Vibrant General] lqaddict:
Go to settings -> about phone -> build number, if you see it ends with JI6 you've updated, if it ends with JFD you haven't.
[Vibrant General] chronos7:
On your phone go to settings>about phone and look at the baseband version. If it's updated it should say T959UVJ16 and Build number ECLAIR.UVJ16
[Vibrant General] Apexsilverevo:
Yeah not gone through... Lol thanks guys!
[HD2 General] kuzibri:
Hi,

since this morning my LED went crazy. When attached to my laptop ik keeps flickering form green to red en v.v.. Any idea what can be wrong?

thanks in advance, Kuzibri
[HD2 General] jdwrrzmm:
It usually means it can't charge, I believe. This is usually due to overheating or bent battery contacts. Is it charging? It you are tethering in a warm area it is entirely possible for it to overheat.
[HD2 General] kuzibri:
Problem solved

Thank you for your reply. I just found the problem: it was the battery itself. It was not overheated or in a warm area, but was, despite being connected to my laptop, discharging instead of charging. Luckily I had a spare one. Inserted this and problem (seems to be) over.

Thanks and regards, Kuzibri
[Android Apps and Games] mech_egr:
Does anyone know of an app that lets you pick different sounds for the different types of notification? ie email, sms, gvoice, etc.

Thanks!
[General Topics] henryfranz2005:
please help because my charger is rated @ 0.1A which means 100mA only? (wth) I googled and found out that 700mA is the oem batt charger for xperia x1 some use 1A others 1.5A please help thanks. Cause I'm buying a new charger rated at 1A so it would charge faster
[General Topics] xaccers:
Yes, the higher the mA the more juice can be drawn from it.

Many people think that it means it will only put out that current, but current is drawn not pushed, and an electrical device will draw as much as it needs.

With a NiMH type rechargable battery, there's a simple formula to work out the charging time.

C is the capacity of the battery.

1.4C/mA

So a 1000mAH NiMH battery charged at 1000mA would take 1.4 hours to charge.

However, Lithium batteries are not simple to charge without blowing them up, hence the need for a charging circuit.

The charging circuit should take only as much current as it needs to charge the battery safely, so a 2A charger would probably be overkill although it would most likely enable you to run TomTom, Opera, and watch a movie while charging in the quickest possible time :)

If you're charging while using the device heavily (GPS/Wifi/3G browsing) then 1A charger would be better, but if you normally just leave the phone charging without using it then 600mA normally does the job.
[General Topics] henryfranz2005:
i think 2A charger would kill the battery. Can you suggest a 1A charger OEM htc for my xperia x1? thanks
[General Topics] xaccers:
You've fallen for what I mentioned in my second sentance.

A 2A power supply does not only provide 2A, it provides anything up to 2A.

So if your phone only draws 1A, it will only provide 1A.

The phone is the charger, the thing we think of as the charger is actually just a power supply.

Unless someone has the spec sheets for the charging circuit in the phone, we don't know the maximum rate at which it will charge the battery.

One way to find out would be to discharge the battery to a level where the phone won't turn on, then without turning the phone on, set it charging.

Time how long it takes for the LED to turn green.

Divide 1230 by the time in hours that it took and you've got roughly the current drawn to charge it.

Say it takes 90 minutes with a 1A power supply, so that's a maximum charge rate of 800mA, so even if you connected it up to a 5A power supply, it will still only charge at 800mA.

So, you connect it up to your 1A power supply, that means with the phone on you've got a "spare" 200mA to play with.

If the phone isn't using more than 200mA to just "run" itself, then you'll charge a battery in the 90 minutes.

However, say you start your sat nav app, it draws 400mA (guess), the charging circuit drops to use only 600mA, taking longer to charge but allowing you to find where you're driving too.

While you're navigating to a restaurant, you want to phone ahead to confirm the reservation, so you open up Opera and search google with a 3G connection, that takes another 400mA (guess). The charging circuit now only has 200mA to use. Your battery isn't getting much charge.

Imagine using a 600mA power supply instead and you can see how you could get to the situation where despite being plugged in, your battery is running down.

I've used 400mA to demonstrate the impact, of course they real values are lower, otherwise you'd only get an hour's use out of having GPS and 3G enabled. Hmm, then again...
[General Topics] henryfranz2005:
thanks for helping me here :) I decided that I would buy a new charger. (1A) because my charger is not drawing enough amperes (my charger is rated at 0.1A believe me. I thought I read the specs wrong. But it takes roughly 18 hrs to fully charge my battery.

I input my battery specs here http://www.csgnetwork.com/batterychgcalc.html

and yeah I think the computation is correct. Thanks SIR XACCERS
[General Topics] henryfranz2005:
you're correct sir. It would take 90MINUTES to charge my phone using 1A :)

you're so cool sir :cool:
[General Topics] xaccers:
Happy to have enlightened :)

Just wish I could have been more helpful in suggesting which to buy.
[General Topics] luirhy:
Just be careful in using a charger with high Amp rating. I have 2 chargers- 1 charges my phone in more or less an hour, the other in almost half a day (so I don't use it).

One time, my battery got drained, so no problem, I plugged it in to charge. To my horror, it wasn't charging (no blinking light). sometimes I get a blinking red light, and the power button emits a red light. So I wasn't all that bothered, I thought it might need some more time to charge, so I left it alone. But the day was fast ending, without anything happening, and I needed my phone the next day for work. So I went to have it checked, the tech said it was a battery problem, so I just bought a replacement battery.

After 2 days, the same thing happened. Not charging, Red light blinking and annoying me to death. I went and had the battery replaced again.

A few days passed, so far so good, nothing happened. I just made sure that I don't let my battery drain and charge it as soon as it falls below half.

One night, I attended a party and wasn't paying too much attention to my phone. You can guess what happened, the battery went dead. I couldn't find my (fast-charging) charger, so I used the other one while I looked for it- still wasn't charging.

I couldn't find it, so I got ready to go have the battery replaced again. But then it blinked. I thought my mind might be playing tricks with me. It blinked again. (actually it wasn't blinking, it was kind of like that slow color-changing when you open the phone). I pressed the power button. It's alive!

This happened several times already, so to make the long story short. It's the charger's fault. Now, its the charger with the low amphere rating that I bring with me, even if it does charge slowly. I only use the other one, when I'm pressed for time.

Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to share my story.