yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
well, replacing the framework with AOSP is just not going to happen, samsung has changed to much of it, and without the source it is pretty much impossible.

I am going to try to port over some of the other apps, phone, contacts, camera, but for now we have just swapped out the icons, I thing the camera is not possible without the source, so I think that will stay.

Phone is possible, it works, but crashes because it looks for contacts, which then crashes...

gtg465x has fixed the clock color, anything beyond that we really need the source for to do I think, but you never know :)
[Captivate Android Development] moretech:
Appreciate the detailed reply..

Have had a very issue free experience using both the beta one and two.

Enjoy the minimal feel....All in all I'm so glad I have an android phone and that I dont have to rely on at&t for OTA updates.
[Captivate Android Development] realawill:
This has worked well for me. Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] KCutrer1:
Hey DG, when the source is released for Froyo, are you gonna try to do what Eugene and Barak were doing witht the 2.1 source and build an actual AOSP ROM from it, or will you just try to replace things (framework for example) in JI6 to make it as Vanilla as possible?
[Captivate Android Development] realawill:
My clock color is still white after update. Was a clean install needed? I just updated the beta1.
[Captivate Android Development] Kizzmiazz:
Is the status bar in this beta white or black ? Just wondering cause the screen shot on the first page shows black and sounds like that has changed.

Sent from my Cognition v2.2 BETA 7 Froyo | RyanZA's OCLF and Screaming Fast
[Captivate Android Development] gtg465x:
Clock text fix has not been released yet.

White... that is an old screenshot.
[Captivate Android Development] Kizzmiazz:
Eww lol not complaining , but DG please tell me your not going with a white status bar in cognition in future releases.

I'm scared right now DG lol I live for cognition and love your work but white :(

Edit : Sorry I said I would never complain, can't stand people who do. But white is just a pain in the ass with the captivate to customize since every thing so far has been made for black. I want your asop version so bad I can taste it lol but black is where its at.

Sent from my Cognition v2.2 BETA 7 Froyo | RyanZA's OCLF and Screaming Fast
[Captivate Android Development] Smallsmx3:
Great work on this rom....by far one of the available to use...can't wait for it to be complete. It looks like the battery meter reads like the jf6 TW meter. It looks like I have 80% but only have 50%. Just wondering if this will be fixed? So far no bugs that I have found
[Captivate Android Development] Kizzmiazz:
Just so ya know I still love ya DG ( Even the white DG ) :)

04A22328T7739774G more coming on payday I cant live with out ya . My wifes jealous lol
[Captivate Android Development] ikitsune:
I'd like to point out that the "spinners" on the screens where activity without a progress bar are happening aren't quite right, on most standard frameworks I've seen, the gray "tiles" that make it up don't move, and the darker parts are animated, on this the whole shebang is spinning. Is this a limitation of Samsung's framework, or an oversight?
[Captivate Android Development] doctahjeph:
Quick question, hasn't the source for the i9000 rom been released already? If so with the reoriented kernel could you build a AOSP rom using that? If this is too much work I understand.
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Well, we have a captivate, dealing with all the bugs created from flashing another phones rom to our own, ugh... don't want to deal with it.

what would be the point of doing that anyways? We got pretty much everything ported over minus a few apps. The framework on the i9000 is far from stock as well.
[Captivate Android Development] Coldheat1906:
Hey DG,

Have you considered just keeping the Samsung Contacts instead of going with the AOSP Contacts apk?

Just a thought.
[Captivate Android Development] gtg465x:
Well that's what we're doing right now. Don't really have a choice yet lol.
[Captivate Android Development] Coldheat1906:
ya I know.... just figured it was worth staying with...... that would eliminate one thing off of his "To Do List". :D
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
looks normal to me...

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beta3 is live!
[Captivate Android Development] gtg465x:
I think I see what he's talking about, but it's not a big deal. Will look into fixing it at some point.
[Captivate Android Development] moretech:
I'm sure others and me might find it enlightening to know what the following terms mean or defined

-Fully Deodexed

-Fully PNG Optimized

-Fully ZipAligned

Thanks for all your work and expertise inspires me to learn more about coding and learning more about the android system...
[Captivate Android Development] Kizzmiazz:
OMG Cant take it any more, OK OK DG , Im flashing new beta now. Thanks Bro for all your hard work.
[Captivate Android Development] hansmrtn:
So for the dialer, you are going to need the nexus dialer because the captivates lack of hardware. If you are going to use the nexus phone.apk you will also need the same contacts.apk from the same batch. You may need to do edit a couple of lines, but that shouldn't be hard.
[Captivate Android Development] ikitsune:
It wasn't a big deal to me either, just wanted to make sure I hadn't lost my freaking mind. x3 I'm reading up on modifying the framework-res.apk to see if I can fix it myself.
[Captivate Android Development] thecellx:
Quickoffice

Hi all.

I know that all the big minds who are developing this ROM, won be interested on my comments but anyway i will do it....

1) UI so far seems a little bit old. I know that you want to remove samsung for good for our phone, but some widgets, menu style, and many other visual stuff should remain. The app menu is very near an iphone look... which for me is really bad.

2) I dont know if your are planning to remove Quickoffice. I really dont want to waste 10 dolars on the market.

3) Why status bar on white? It looks better the way it is right now. (Cog Beta 6)

Thank you and dont hate me for my really dumb comments.
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
The UI was changed to match the AOSP look, plain and simple. The latest version of Android looks like how beta3 is now.

QuickOffice is free to captivate users from the market.

This isn't Cognition, don't compare it to that how the status bar looks now IN cognition, makes no sense :)

You are more then welcome to mod it to look how you want it... Our goal was AOSP as possible.

One more thing... Don't hate on the iPhone, its is a far better phone then the Captivate ;)
[Captivate Android Development] thecellx:
Thanks for your response im a follower of you. Just a comment i was an iphone user for almost 4 years (2,3g,3gs..) and for me Android, Cognition, and my Captivate are the exact things im looking for to refresh my mind. For me our captivate is better than any other phone... but lets stop talking iphones... i dont want to distract you guys for the AMAZING work youre doing. Thanks to clear and answer my comments.
[Captivate Android Development] djbberko:
DG, you think the iPhone is better? :O No way. Android is way better, even on the captivate.
[Captivate Android Development] bts0uth:
As a long time iPhone user, I feel 100% confident in saying he is being sarcastic lol. Even jailbroken an iPhone can't compare to Android. I wouldn't trade my Captivate for a brand new 32gb iPhone 4
[Captivate Android Development] xfernand:
Coming to the XDA site for support beats the crap out of showing up the apple store and wait for 1 hour to talk to an "expert" to tell you that you must reset your iPhone to factory settings.... for the 7th time.

I'll go back to a pay phone if I have to before buying an iPhone again....

But that is just me. :D
[Captivate Android Development] hansmrtn:
Im compiling this rom and gonna see if it works with some things I added. Will report back
[Captivate Android Development] alexmullins:
I would deff trade my Captivate for a brand new 32gb Iphone 4, sell it on ebay for $600, and by a new Captivate. Easy $200 dollars right there :p

Oh and dll'in the new beta3. Thanks for your guys work AOSP rom!
[Captivate Android Development] smeltn:
Can't wait to see where this goes
[Captivate Android Development] darcjrt:
Awesome job guys!!!!
[Captivate Android Development] Smallsmx3:
Is there any way around the att market?
[Captivate Android Development] flucks:
It looks like OCLF is still needed in this build. I was running around 10 MFLOPS before and 14.2 after. This is a really smooth build. Thanks a bunch DG.
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Let me stop you now... those numbers are meaningless...
[Captivate Android Development] flucks:
My apologies. I don't know too much about it, my error.
[Captivate Android Development] ikitsune:
Agreed - I haven't even bothered running Quadrant or Linpack. All I know is it's fast.
[Captivate Android Development] flucks:
Has anyone noticed an increase or decrease in battery life?
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
2hrs in, lots of browsing, texting, 1 phone call, 20mins of angry birds, and some other stuff...

92% battery left
[Captivate Android Development] FutureSix:
WOW! You sir must have installed a car battery to your phone...
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
I very much like this so far..... haven't gotten to everything yet, but I'm workin on it! =) The only thing I didn't like was the white text on white background clock on top, but now that that little annoyance is fixed, nothing negative at all to say!! :D:D
[Captivate Android Development] flashman2002:
It's just good. I ran beta 2 and 3, lots of flick kick field goal and angry birds with some browsing and using xda app and never Hastings charge until right now.
[Captivate Android Development] xfernand:
1+ hour into it... Flawless so far. I really like DG. Good work. I'll keep testing these BETAS and report back.

Thanks.
[Captivate Android Development] Smallsmx3:
Seriously....DG what do u do when u flash? I flash at 100% and clear battery stats. After 30 min of setting everything up I was down to 85%.
[Captivate Android Development] vietn95:
Can you install the captivate music player over aosp? I like the different views on the cappy music player better.
[Captivate Android Development] JimmehDean:
You probably could if you just swapped the .apk's yourself. Unless the music player is tied to something else that is was changed/removed.
[Captivate Android Development] r_shook:
Loving this rom guys. I've tried all three betas and see great progress with each one. Runs like a champ:)

Thanks DG and gtg465x!!
[Captivate Android Development] BecomingxInsane:
Really hope to see results close to these...

(Running Cognition B7) This morning I unplugged my phone and it was fully charged, did some texting, and listened to pandora for about an hour with about 45% screen brightness and I was under 30% battery after an hour and 38 minutes according to the phone.. D:
[Captivate Android Development] nbs11:
There are a few apps I believe should stay as the TouchWiz versions:

Contacts (I really like the drag right/left)

Lock-screen (Puzzle-piece unlock is awesome)

Swipe (Technically not TouchWiz, but this NEEDS to stay)

Black notification menu (looks better)

Notification toggles (this needs no explanation)

Memo (as far as I know Android does not come with one)

Music (the TouchWiz music app is 1000 times better)

Camera (way better then stock)

Calculator (I like this version a lot better then other ones)

Overall I think that a lot of the TouchWiz apps have a lot to offer and that they shouldn't be deleted from the phone.
[Captivate Android Development] 2kgt:
This is an AOSP ROM. You need to flash another ROM if you want TouchWiz.
[Captivate Android Development] olieebur:
Do people not know what AOSP 2.2 is? Why are people wanting touchwiz apps in an AOSP based ROM? If you want those touchwiz apps in here then don't flash it. No point in leaving touchwiz apps in an AOSP based rom. It's called that for a reason.
[Captivate Android Development] gtg465x:
Sounds like AOSP isn't for you then. Should probably stick to Cog. The whole purpose of this rom is to get away from Samsung and give you a stock Android experience. Swipe, the Samsung camera app, and notification toggles will stay. Samsung Contacts and Phone are there for now, but will be replaced by their AOSP counterparts in the future.
[Captivate Android Development] Kaik541:
ugh, do you not understand the point of this project? if you don't like where this project is headed and you feel you "need" all those things, run cognition. the idea of this is to remove AS MUCH OF TOUCHWIZ AS POSSIBLE. it's not about what's "better" really, it's about getting away from samsung's interface. a lot of people (myself included) prefer the look of this ROM over the standard look one thousand fold.

if you like the look of this release and want those touchwiz specific things, put them in yourself, it's not hard. your entire post was "while this is nice, I'd rather run cog" but in a much dumber fashion.
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
Just flash the rom, it will clear the stats for you, no need to do it again, that might be the issue...

No offense, but you missed whats included, whats not, and the goal of this rom, please go read the OP.

You should try cognition, sounds like its right up your ally.

Thanks for the blunt mean version :D
[Captivate Android Development] kangi26:
Wait..... you mean you actually USE your Cap? With all of the ROMS you're putting out, I barely have time to use my phone, and your the man dev'ing the stuff.
[Captivate Android Development] hansmrtn:
Agreed. AOSP- Android Open Source Project.

I love the fact we are doing dev work on the captivate, but I would wait until CM to have a nice source to build off. :D
[Captivate Android Development] sdotbrucato:
I'm getting force closes on "com.sec.android.app.screencapture". It's happened a few times while using the XDA app,(but that's all I've done with the phone so far is install xda lol)

I'll try and reproduce it to see what may be causing it.

Edit: Also is Angry Birds installed be default? I don't remember installing it, but it's also fc-ing, cant even open it.
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
I have two captivates

Pshhh, they havent even started on it for the Captivate.

Grab the latest zip, angry birds was for my own person build, accidentally uploaded it :)

The screencapture thing force closing is a known issue, it is fixed in the current zip... just download beta3 and apply it.
[Captivate Android Development] Dmoney5150:
I'm sorry if I overlooked it but I know beta3 is up but don't see any change info was it minor changes?
[Captivate Android Development] gtg465x:
This would be the change info from the first post. You probably just saw the Beta2 and skimmed over it, but it says from Beta2.

---Changes from Beta2---

-Fully Deodexed

-Fully PNG Optimized

-Fully ZipAligned

-Clock Color is now black

-Removed TAT Live wallpapers

-Removed TW Wallpaper Chooser
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jazor28:
I have a T-mobile Htc HD2 with t-mobile lock on it ..... If i put Andriod to this phone will i be able to use the phone without getting rid of the lock ?? :confused:

While having Dual -boot !! So is it possible ??
[XPERIA X10 General] tetracortica:
http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/gadgetpr0n/72364/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-X10-Smartphone-Review.html

honestly i would NOT have picked it up if the review came sooner...

fact is, there are just better handsets out there for the same bargain...
[XPERIA X10 General] sopdogg:
Really??? There have been so many reviews before and you honestly wouldn't buy the x10 based on what g4 says? The phone is over a year old, just because it got released a few months ago on att doesn't mean that you couldn't do research prior to buying your phone. The internets is vast and big!
[XPERIA X10 General] anjel-2k:
Nice. Really love this review. love my X10 also, but maybe this growing bad publicity will wake sony up and get these minial issues resolved with the phone and ovarall customer apprication. If not for this phone, maybe for their next flagship device. Ive stood up for sony for a long time and about 90% of my electronic devices are sony products " even this post iam writing is being witten from my sony viao laptop", unfortunatley it will most probabaly be my last sony device. unless i see a real massive improvement from this conglomerate giant.

Good Post

Good Review

Goodnight!;)
[XPERIA X10 General] -PiLoT-:
im closing this thread as its ability to be constructive is too overwhelming

j/k

seriously though stop posting threads like this it helps no one
[EVO 4G Accessories] JTNiggle:
So, with all the chatter about crappy batteries on eBay, I figured I would try some and give them a half way decent testing. This was far from scientific, but I didn't feel like putting any more energy into it, and I don't have the equipment to test them otherwise.

I got THESE mostly because the seller is in the states, so it wont take 94 days to get my stuff. Also cause they're red, which makes them 146% less likely to suck. Note: I offered the guy $20 plus shipping, and he accepted that evening.

Before testing, I gave the new battery a 100% charge, then full discharge, and full charge again. I wiped battery stats, then rebooted and began the test. I did the exact same for the stock battery, but it may have a disadvantage, as it is a few weeks old. Maybe I'll test again in a while, if I get bored enough. For this test, I ran the Evo OC'd to 1228 on performance profile, set screen to full brightness and to never time out, streamed Pandora, and continuously downloaded from Dropbox. Running VaelPak 2.2 with Kingx #11 kernel. There were some variables to this, as I did use the phone during these hours, some calls, texts, browsing xda, etc. I tried to keep my use similar between the two tests, hopefully I did.

Well, how bout some pictures and results, eh. Stock 1500mah HTC battery first. Time from 100% to 10% was 107 minutes, time to shutoff was 123 minutes. You'll have to excuse the time since boot count, as I forgot that I had a SetCPU profile set to drastically under clock when the battery gets low, which caused the phone to freeze up since it was doing too much at once.

And the 1800mah eBay special. Time from 100% to 10% was 139 minutes, time to shutoff was 145 minutes. Not sure what to make of this battery running through the last 10% so quickly, but oh well. Would be nice if this went away as time goes on, but I won't really be running it down that low normally anyway.

To conclude, I guess I didn't get screwed on these. Based on my non-scientific test, these batteries last about 18% longer. Which is pretty much what you would expect from a 20% larger battery. The biggest thing for me is that they fit with the stock battery cover so I can continue to use my Otterbox and car mount. Now, this was only one test, time will tell if they are really any good. I don't feel like working at testing any more then this, so I'll be happily oblivious to any degradation from these cheap batteries. :D
[EVO 4G Accessories] touchjon:
just got one of these cause i feel like my battery is defected or something so ill check this out extremely fast ordered saturday recieved today monday
[EVO 4G Accessories] rotorrocket:
thanks for the feedback on the higher rated batteries. I don't think the ebay batteries are crappy at all though. They work just as well as the stock battery for me. Had one go through the wash without any damage.
[EVO 4G Accessories] ckombo:
I've been using these red batteries since July. They definitely last longer than the stock HTC battery, and have not yet deteriorated in performance.
[EVO 4G Accessories] touchjon:
well hopefully mines gonna do good. charged it and its already down to 94% in 30 mins and dropped 5% almost immediatly after i took it off the wall charger then put it into the phone. but after that its only gone down 1% so 94% battery in 30 mins :/ running myns 2.2 with battery tweak
[EVO 4G Accessories] JTNiggle:
It will do that until you fully charge it a couple times and wipe battery stats, if you have amon ra recovery anyway.

Hey... I think this thing makes phone calls too!
[EVO 4G Accessories] eluno:
ive been using the same batteries too for about a week i think they are well worth the price. definetly last longer than stock red HTC batt.
[EVO 4G Accessories] urvi1:
Well my offer of $20 was declined. Not sure how long i want to wait to pick this up.
[EVO 4G Accessories] touchjon:
battery is by far way better then the original from what i can tell but havent done any significant testing
[EVO 4G Accessories] billyman:
I would like to have 1, but I don't need 2. Wish I could find someone to go in halves w/ me. Preferably someone local to Nashville, TN. Any takers??
[EVO 4G Accessories] dahauss:
Well I got two of them from his regular web site. We will see how they work out.
[EVO 4G Accessories] tekeeladude:
Thanks for the heads up on these batteries. Got the batteries and dock charger for $27.50 using make an offer.
[EVO 4G Accessories] touchjon:
i got 1 plus wall charger for 25 htcexpress.com is his website
[EVO 4G Accessories] Saltwater Hero:
I also have these same batteries but I bought just one and the charging dock. They do last longer than the stock HTC battery glad I bought one !
[EVO 4G Accessories] supdawg:
Ill go in half with you (not sure how, though?), but I live in the Nashville area.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Sideman7:
I got the 2 battery package with charger on eBay for $26 via "make an offer". I just scrolled through the feedbacks to see the lowest price they accepted... Charging now.
[EVO 4G Accessories] PhantomApollyon:
I just grabbed one of these batteries and the wall dock and I'm getting roughly 18-20% better battery life, good stuff for the money and no issues thus far.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Noxious Ninja:
Anybody want to lend one to the batteryboss.org guy for some scientific testing? If not, I may see if I can get 2 for $25 and send one in.
[EVO 4G Accessories] qwalls:
Well, if you don't have these batteries already, the value ship has sailed. Seller got greedy. They are now $60 for 2 batteries and charger on ebay, and $100 on Amazon.
[EVO 4G Accessories] SpaceMonky:
yeah i noticed he is jacking up prices every where but his site.

you can still get them cheap on there. i just ordered one for 14.99 with free 2-5 day shipping.
[EVO 4G Accessories] mrwilly:
thanks for the link, just ordered one
[EVO 4G Accessories] Saltwater Hero:
I orderd a battery from the HTC express guy on ebay about a week ago and with my order he sent me a coupon code for 10off his site. Tried using it last night and it said it was expired so I sent him an email and asked him for a new one. If he gets back with me I'll let yall know what it is.
[EVO 4G Accessories] thenags:
Just ordered one. Thanks for the link.
[EVO 4G Accessories] Bizdady:
There goes ordering a 2 of these. I guess the wifey and I should be sticking to our 10 dollar ebay 1500 spares lol
[EVO 4G Accessories] cybertek3:
They are currently $14.99 for one on his website. $19.99 for one with a charger. Shipping was free.

I can't post the link to his site but others have in this thread.
[EVO 4G Accessories] nosfanatic2006:
So why are these batteries so cheap? I just ordered the 1800x2 + walldock, but was curious as to why such a good deal :P
[EVO 4G Accessories] billowred:
Good idea on the testing. I also have these 2 batteries for about 3 months now I always swap them during the day they seem to be fine. I just got my 3000mah battery today. Hopefully it works good too.

Sent from a proud EVO owner!
[EVO 4G Accessories] Plancy:
How does the back fit with these batteries?

edit: Guess I'll test myself, just ordered a single battery for $14.99.
[EVO 4G Accessories] JTNiggle:
No worries, they fit like stock, you'll be happy with them.