yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laxwillsch:
My understanding of it is that the mobile ap option in the leaked froyo is free but not because att is deciding not to charge for it, it is because this is in fact a leaked version of froyo and when it officially comes out they will find a way to charge for it or just include an att version of it that you will have to pay for and this new application that will be on the official froyo will be the equivalent of what your friend has for verizon. Hope that helps and if you want to be extra careful just download one of the wireless tethering apps
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
Oh ATT would love to have you believe you have to pay their twenty dollar subscription fee to enable tethering on your phone as well.

My guess (and this is just a guess as I have no experience with verizon) is if your friend can get either easy tether or another such app on his phone he would not need to pay them either. Again I don't know anything about verizon or the contract your friend has with them.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vsboxerboy1:
Yeah, I poked around a bit on the Incrdible subforum and it seems like all curernt wifi tether apps require root access, which he does not have (I don't want to be his IT guy so I'm not gonna root it for him lol)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranjo65:
What Data Plan do you have with AT&T? If you weren't grandfathered in on the old $30 unlimited plan and you exceed your cap you could end up paying quite a bit for tethering.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
how can you "exceed a cap" on an "unlimited plan"?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MikeyMike01:
You can't.

But there was a point at which you would raise flags and be investigated.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
Investigated for what exactly? Who would do the investigating? And a what point would the flags raise?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranjo65:
Read a little slower next time. I said if he wasn't ("weren't") grandfathered in on the unlimited plan.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranjo65:
1. Excessive data usage, even on an unlimited plan. (A clue to tethering when tethering isn't allowed...like, say, with a Captivate.

2. AT&T

3. Don't know.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
edited out by me.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
I am a slow reader, but I still missed that up. LOL
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranjo65:
No worries. :)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vsboxerboy1:
I have unlimited data, grandfathered in.

My friend has unlimited data as well, but AFAIK there isn't an easy root solution for the Incredible yet - thus, there is no wifi tether app (that I know of) for him to use.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alphadog00:
The simple answer is - if you use tethering and not paying for it, then you are violating the terms of service. Tethering is officially a separate product.

But, the captivate has no AT&T tethering app, so they have no easy way to monitor tethering usage. If you use a lot of data, they may start looking, and even then, they have to do some deep packet inspection to determine that you are tethering and not doing all this on your phone - and even deep packet inspection is not 100% conclusive as you could say you are using a custom browser that makes your phone look like Firefox on Windows 7.

So even if they were suspicious, all they could first is send you a letter about bandwidth. They would have a hard time proving anything. BUT, they can always terminate service - they can say they don't want you as a customer any more.

The only people that get in trouble for tethering are the ones that run their whole house internet off their phone. Occasional use, and under 5GB per month, and they wont bother you.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
What? If this is true, and by this logic, I must be violating my terms of service every time I use google navigator -- after all att has their own paid subscription for att navigator.

I must be violating my terms of service every time i use dropbox since att paid service net share and storage.

I must be violation my terms of service every time i use google talk to send a text message since att has a texting plan.

I must be violating my terms of service every time i use a non att product or service on my phone if att offers a paid version of that service.

As far as tethering being an "officially separate product" exactly what do I get from att if I pay them for their subscription tethering plan and I have a captivate? I will tell you, I would get nothing, nada, zilch. ATT has no tethering product for the captivate, even though they are more than happy to charge anyone willing to pay for it.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dave the Knave:
As far as I'm concerned, and I'm not all that concerned, I pay for the phone, the data, and the rest of the services, I shall use them as I want to. Mind you I will be smart about it as I only have a 200MB a month plan, but that's not a lot of usage and would probably never raise a red flag to AT&T.

To tether or not to tether! It's not really a question anymore.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wphilly:
Important distinction being that tethering may be a violation of your services contract. Nothing seems to indicate that "duplicating core functionality" (thanks for the term, Apple) constitutes a violation of AT&T's acceptable use policy.

I just browsed through some of the restrictions listed on AT&T's website. I did see some information about plans that do include tethering, but I did not find an express prohibition of tethering for other plans. Seemed that the tethering plans may have just eased the process. I am personally on an unlimited plan, but since this isn't offered anymore I was not able to find the specific terms of this plan. Can anybody point to an actual paragraph in a terms of use statement or contractual language expressly prohibiting tethering?

Also, has anybody actually been "flagged" for tethering? I'm curious because it seems that warnings abound, but I've yet to see a person actually complain of having been so much as given notice of violation by AT&T.

Thanks. My first post. I like this place.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
Thanks for actually using a little logic and being the first state the idea of actually checking your contract and the terms of service bound by that contract. It could be potentially a violation if it is specifically defined in the contract or terms of service I agreed to. However, I have never found any specific mention of tethering my captivate in either my contract or my terms of service.

And I have not heard of anyone even so much as even being questioned or warned by att, let alone being charged or denied service, for tethering their phone.

All you ever hear from people is this idea that it must be violation simply because att has a subscription fee for tethering.

Does anyone have any documentation that tethering your phone is a violation of their terms of service?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ce2700:
Happy somebody pointed me to this thread alot of intresting stuff.

Thanks
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vsboxerboy1:
It's vague at best:

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ment&q_termsName=Wireless Customer Agreement#
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Krad:
you should totally call to find out... let them know that you downloaded a leaked copy of an operating system. see what they say.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
I am glad to see we got to the point where maybe some more people will start actually checking their terms of service before simply stating that something is (such as tethering) a violation of terms of service just because they think it should be a violation.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dani897:
att does have tethering plans with higher rates, i think this is why they disable tethering.

if you want to buy a tethering phone full price and bring it over to att and get a plan with more data then you are free to do so.

it is annoying that they dont leave it up to the customer to only use so much data, but from a service standpoint they may have fewer power users interested in that sort of thing than people that would get the minimum plan tether anyway and then complain about the outrageous bill.

the power users find ways around it anyway.

on the other hand att likes to charge for services and features, if you had a smart phone once and smart phone exclusion is not on your account any longer then if you buy a smart phone you will be forced to buy a data plan, even if you buy it outright. they do this by the id on your phone over the network. this is odd because when i had my aria i never got the text about the smart phone plan and the phone had the option to turn data off. when i got the captivate within minutes they sent a text about having a smartphone on att. it makes me wonder if the aria is on there smartphone list? the captivate cant turn off data in eclair 'cept through some obscure menus accessed from the dialer. froyo can turn off data but froyo also is recognized by my pc as a gt-i9000 so i think it is an early rom and still has many i-9000 features that we will lose with the official release.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
Yes we know the have a rate plan subscription for tethering - and they make this plan available for us cappy users - but they don't support tethering on the cappy yet anyway even though they were nice enough to let anyone cappy pay for go ahead and pay and no you do not get to use any more data with a tethering plan than you are allowed without a tethering plan.

Which is why if you have a cappy and you pay the subscription fee to tether you get nothing in return from att for your money.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dani897:
or you can come to xda and enable mobile ap. with or without the plan.

i guess there mentality is that if you can pay for teathering every month you can buy a gt-i9000 or nexus one or unlock a t-mobile phone. yeah there policies are ****ty but it protects stupid people from themselves and potentially saves them alot of headaches. if you dont like it go to t-mobile and see how good your signal is.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
What policy? And how does it protect stupid people from themselves?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranjo65:
AT&T does not "offer" Captivate owners "a rate plan subscription for tethering", plain and simple. First, they DEMAND that you buy a data plan. You can't activate a Captivate or any other smartphone on their network without one. Second, they expect you to access that data plan strictly through your phone, NOT your laptop/desktop via your phone's connection. If they DID NOT expect that there would be no list of officially-sanctioned-for-tethering phones, and there would be no AT&T LaptopConnect software for your, well, laptop.

"Tethering Plans" don't exist for the Captivate or any other smartphone on AT&T. If you have a Captivate you are NOT paying a "subscription fee to tether", plain and simple. You are paying to access a data plan through your phone, not through your phone-as-a-modem.

(BTW, I'm not saying that the TOS aren't vague, or that there aren't technical loopholes big enough to drive a 20GB a month tethering habit through. I'm saying that AT&T makes a distinction between phones they will "allow" you to use as a modem, and phone's they expect you to not use as a modem.)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
Actually they did offer a two separate tethering plans to captivate owners when they first came out with their new tiered data plans this past summer -- 2gig smart phone data + tether was $45 and 2 gig smart phone data enterprise + tether $65

It does appear that at some point this past month they have stopped offering the 2 gig + tether for $45 to new cappi subscribers -- but the 2 gig data enterprise plus tether for $65 is still available.

So if we are lucky, they will stop offering these tethering rate plans because they were/are nothing more than a con anyway.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
Expectations, and opinions aside and back to my whole point throughout this thread: Is tethering my captivate to my computer a violation of my terms of service?

No.

Do I have to pay att to tether my phone?

No.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranjo65:
This is news to me, and also to my local AT&T store CSRs. When I bought my Captivate 6 days after release, I was told by AT&T that they did not offer any sort of tethering plan for that phone.

I agree that tethering plans are a con.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranjo65:
I don't know what opinions you're talking about. And no, you don't have to pay to tether. The capability is there for a lot of phones, including, of course, the Captivate.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
Ya, and when I logged on to my account at att just checked under manage features, sure enough enterprise data 2 gig per month + plus tether $65 is still an option available for me to add to this phone on this account.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dayv:
The opinions remark was that allot of people seem to believe that simply because att has data connection modems as well as tethering plans it must be a violation of terms of service to tether my phone on my own, even though the term tether or tethering does not even appear in my contract or the terms of service my contract is linked

However as you have been focusing more on the amount data used and not how it is being used this really would not be directed to what you were saying.

And as far as that goes you are really right in that respect - as the only way someone is going to have issues with att about data - it won't be about whether or not you tether, but how much data you are using
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranjo65:
I'll be damned! I just did the same thing and, sure enough, there it was. I learned something new today. :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m3xicanprid3:
i tried to change the boot animation with the pushboot. i accidentally press idk wich button of the list that came with that folder n opens the cmnd thnk adb . n starts to do idk what . then i try to turn on my phone n got stock on the evo 4g white screen i took the batt out put it bck n now goes directly to the bootloader screen. can i put it bck to normal o no? can we do somethng with the cmd adb o whatever is that called. i got ths on the bootloader screen

SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP S-ON (i used to have it off idk what happens)

HBOOT-0.97.0000

TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab

RADIO-2.15.00.09.01

Aug 19 2010, 14:29:00

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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fenixjn:
Seems like you lost the ability to flash custom unsigned ROMs... it is likely you'll need to flash using RUU and re-root again.

Sent from the iPhone Assassin
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m3xicanprid3:
how ? iif i can not connect it to the computer n all the stuffs on the sd card got erased.. can u tell me step by step
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m3xicanprid3:
ok when i go to recovery n try to do like lets say somethng with the sdcard it says

E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0 (or /dev/block/mmcblk0p1

(no such file or directory)

E:Can't mount /sdcard

can someone tell me why or whats wrong.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nemesco:
Anyone? I'm having the same problem. Don't know how to revert to stock rom or any rom, can't access the sdcard from clockworks and can't boot into android.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Estes1003:
I had the same issue. Found this after i reported my phone "lost".

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=800582

This will take you back to stock 3.29. and you will lose root.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidfreak:
this may need to be in development. I want to know how or why when hooked up via the tv out function and launch the camera I get a not supported feature?? is there another app that will allow that or a developer that can solve my issue. I want to set the phone down and see what the camera sees on my tv.. any solutions would be great.
[Omnia II ROM Development] riolaw:
hey

Currently i am using windows mobile 6.1 professional but i need nice custom ROM like the windows mobile 7 or windows mobile 6.5 professional.

any good CUSTOM ROMS ?

thanks
[Omnia II ROM Development] bikerboi85:
well your posting in the roms section. have u browsed through for i8000 based roms? or try the search function or goto www.modaco.com they have a large database of roms easier for someone like you to find it
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Stealthy_Stoner:
So Im A Noob At This Kind Of stuff And I got A Phone From A Friend But when i turn It On it goes Straight to clockwork Recovery And It Wont Let Me do any thing How Can I fix this I tried Rebooting it several times also the bootloader has a red a green and a blue bar and says

DREA100 PVT 32B

HBOOT-0.95.0000

CPLD-4

RADIO-2.22.23.02

Sep 2 2008

How Can I get The Factory Recovery Back On and Update the Bootloader.

Please help Me
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] jzero88:
You might want to start by telling us what phone you have?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Stealthy_Stoner:
tmobile G1
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] apristel:
nevermind...delete this.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] fastblack:
I was able to get a Droid Incredible out of my place of work to use for business. I am an IT guy and am looking for some specific things.

1st Exchange support. I have flashed my incredible to cm6 to get rid of sense because I like vanilla android better. This however brings the problem of losing my GAL support through the Sense email/people apps. Is there any app out there that will get this back? I have found Touchdown, and its ok, but I really dislike the fact that I have to input a pin after 5 minutes of not being in e-mail, and it doesnt really integrate itself into android. I was able to find hacked mail apks for both stock android and the email sense app. But with the stock mail app I still lose out on the GAL. And the sense email app is... ugly. Also is it possible to setup a shared mailbox like I can do in outlook? I have an iPhone 4 as my personal phone and its just much better as far as exchange support goes. Any suggestions here would be great.

Second is setting up VPN to work with cisco ipsec protocol. I cant seem to find out how to set this up, though I have read it requires rooting, which I have done.

Thanks for your input.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Flintr:
Ok, so I'm trying to download the Shared HA Secret and AAA Secret keys from my Moto Droid to put on another (not Droid) phone, but I can't seem to get it to work!

When I do an NV dump in QXDM or CDMA Wrokshop NV items 465 and 1194 (usernames) back up fine, but 466 and 1192 (the keys themselves) come out as:

"0466 (0x01D2) - Access denied"

and

"1192 (0x04A8) - Access denied"

I think I was able to back them up in the QPST service programing app, but they can only be applied to the same model of device. Please helpppppp!
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] darkvenom:
I'm having the same problem on my sprint treo 800w.... Is there another way to get the information that's contained in the 466 and 1192 files?
[Vibrant General] method115:
I'm selling my phone and I need help setting it back to factory settings. I used to be able to do it in my mytouch and I'm pretty sure I do know how to do it but I want to be sure I wipe everything. I have some sensitive stuff on this thing that I don't want to stick around.
[Vibrant General] boystuff:
hold menu button select settings, goto sd card and phone storage

unmount phone storage and click format

reboot phone into recovery and select delete user data, and delete cache.
[Vibrant General] method115:
Thank you.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcmot:
Aloha,

I have found this problem on many different ROMS, my girlfiend's stock moto Droid, and my friend's new Droid X. I am currently running Sky Raider 3.3 with 2.15.00.07.28 radio. On all these phones with froyo it appears that Verizon's cell tower triangulation (aGPS?) no longer works. Symptoms include: location unavailable on google maps indoors, this did not use to be the case. It used to give me a big blue circle of an approximate location, then pinpoint location when I stepped outdoors. Although, GPS does work perfectly outdoors still. HTC weather and clock has no location or gives a location that is far away based on wifi, if I have it on. Widget used to give exact location and applicable weather when indoors. Google home page says location unavailable which means I can't search for nearby things when indoors. Also 3rd party apps that need location cannot find phone's location if indoors. Again this was not the case untill a few weeks ago. Everything used to work fine indoors and out. I have all location settings selected and have tried many solutions from many websites to no avail. I also called Verizon and of coarse they were no help. The customer service lady even said that she noticed the same problem when updated to froyo on her phone. I am in Hawaii, she was in Washington. Sorry for the long explanation but this is driving me crazy. Thanks for any insight.
[Epic 4G General] joshottley:
hey. My phone was working with fine. But last night my alarm didn't go off and the sound won't work unless I plug in headphones. Anyone know what this is? I am running andromeda 1.4.0 kernel with rom. Could that be the issue? I'm just hoping its not hardware.

Thanks.
[Epic 4G General] joshottley:
Guess not.
[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
You want this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8045553&postcount=1

You want the stock dump for JF6 if you're running stock from AT&T or obviously te JH7 one if you did the OTA update or updated through Kies.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ppeccin:
But it does NOT say to which FW it will upgrade.

It just says "Firmware Upgrade Notification" and a bunch of warnings about data loss.

Can't I see which new FW is available anymore?

Or can I just click Upgrade and another screen with FW information and further confirmation will pop up?

Thanks,

Paulo
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ppeccin:
Solved....

Had the guts to click "Upgrade" and another screen pops with further confirmation.

Now I'm totally confused.

It offered me to upgrade to JM2.

I thought that JM2 was a test release, isn't it????

I thought that official versions always followed the pattern JF, JG, JH.... but never JM or JP.

Can someone give some light?

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dovla_sa:
JM2 is not a test release. My German unbranded Galaxy S came with JM2.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deleted member 1952397:
Same goes for my dutch SGS;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Barachiel:
2.2 is downloadable through Kies now.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Adevem:
are you sure you're not in test mode on kies?

or you've probably forgetten about the hostfiles trick previously ;p
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sharken:
Can confirm that Froyo (2.2) is available here in Denmark through Kies. Upgrade went without problems.

Hopefully this will fix issues with connecting to certain wifi routers...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] perryman:
Froyo also available in Norway trough Kies. Not test mode.

But seem to be missing Android Market... Anyone else got that problem?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sharken:
Android Market also missing here in Denmark. AppBrain App Market reports that Market is not installed. I hope they fix this soon :/
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plichtousek:
try wipe, it should work
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] perryman:
Wipe did work. But lost all apps and data...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bibihest:
Can anyone confirm that a wipe will bring back the marked?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pele78:
looooooool
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nCoder:
Froyo??? Which version? JP6?