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[Wildfire General] Sjtephann:
Would be cool to see if there is some kind of software workaround, the recording is just crap now. Since it has the 5MP camera/sensor should it be technically possible to record video's at a higher resolution?
[Wildfire General] xylgn:
its camera is too bad. i dont expect. it doesnt set color adjustment when take a photo. hd video recording is a dream for the wildfire.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floepie:
How does the having one modem flashed (JI2 vs. JI6) relate to GPS performance? Does having one modem flashed versus the other haven actual bearing on how the GPS performs?

And, where does the cache of GPS coordinates actually reside?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoCGHOST:
I have searched for the past few days and have become lost in all the threads. I'm looking for what I believe has probably been answered numerous times but have been unable to find. I'm running my DINC with S-Off, .77HBoot, CWM 2.5.0.1 and Radio 2.05.00.6.11. I want to update to the latest radio 2.15 as well as update to .79HBoot and the latest CWM however I don't see anything on the forums on how to update HBoot or CWM. The radio thread in development explains how to do the radio, so I think I can figure that out, however the HBoot and Clockwork recovery, I cannot find threads explaining how to update. What prompted this was the new SkyRaider rom 3.3.1 needs the newer radio and HBoot to work properly. I am currently running 2.5.2 and really want to upgrade this rom. If anyone has a step by step, or can post some threads for me to research I would appreciate it.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
Radio Update thread with Radio Files by adrynalyne: Radio Update

How to update HBOOT to .92 with files by adrynalyne: HBoot How To. Scroll down to the heading of HBOOT .92 for the info.

Clockwork should flash by opening ROM Manager, at the top it says Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, if there is a newer version there it will say so. Remember to backup your system by making a nandroid backup first! When I updated to .92 HBOOT, I had to do a restore of my system. I've heard this is common, so remember to make a backup!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoCGHOST:
Cool, thats what I needed, thx bro.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
Hey, no problems bro! Glad to help!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoCGHOST:
I wanted to report back that everything worked beautifully. I must stress to anyone doing this however make sure you check the MD5 data on all the files you use, as this seems to be one of the main reasons people have problems. Thanks again for all the help.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
I've noticed that the thinktank topics aren't getting as many posts. Have the coders here given up or lost interest in the G2 root? Is it too hard?

I'm surprised no one has found a break through yet, especially the CM team. I want to hear what the coders have to say. Do you guys think it'll get rooted? How much work will it take?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Gootah:
Idk..but I know one thing...

This topic is gonna get MOVED! lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] minotauri:
you can follow some of the progress in the wiki
[G2 and Desire Z General] soundslikemitch:
WOW I'm still amazed that people who do not know how to read basic fourm notices/rules know about this site. I'm even more amazed they root and don't brick their phones. Spoiled little prince aren't we?
[G2 and Desire Z General] j.books:
lol no. hackers don't give up. its a matter of when, not if.
[G2 and Desire Z General] soundslikemitch:
hopefully with no sodering....
[G2 and Desire Z General] carlosmontanez:
I agree, it isn't a matter if but when and it may be soon. The guys have been hard at work. Besides the phone hasn't been out that long
[G2 and Desire Z General] mgshute:
They are not posting because they are working hard on making easier for lazy people like you.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mattseg:
Seriously, there is a wiki, chat logs, and IRC... the least you could do is look.
[G2 and Desire Z General] grivad:
WOW calm down. I'm amazed people like you take the time to post this drivel.

OP asked an appropriate question. Although discussion has moved elsewhere, it is still reasonable to ask if anything new has happened, as those rooting threads used to be rife with information and discussion then they completely degraded into headbutting about GPL and whether HTC was in violation or not.

This is a forum to discuss G2 Development, after all, and OP was a G2 Development related question. Even if you disagree, do you really need to take the time to troll, insult, and act all tough-guy in a forum? Try to keep the peace. Move on if you disagree with the post or topic.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Corylulu:
Yeah, well if you haven't been checking out the wiki on a day to day basis, it sure does look like the G2 Root process is at a halt. Even if you follow #g2root, its still pretty dead.

But people have been making small updates the the Wiki about whats going on, but I think the masses are no longer participating in the root, only the guys that know the most about it.

I understand why you didn't see any progress though, but for some reason, people around here have to be a **** when people ask questions that aren't obvious to people that haven't read the entire forum inside and out over the years.
[G2 and Desire Z General] soundslikemitch:
I was bored at work. These people work hard for us for nothing but our respect. If you respect them you would keep with their very few requests.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Corylulu:
Dude, its a discussion forum. If you only have time to look at the forum every few days, it DOES appear that nothing has happened. And I'm sure there was about 100 other people that were asking the same questions. The whole point of these threads is to communicate with each other.

The open source community isn't just for hackers and programmers. Regular people like to root there phones too.
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidtoy09:
I have to admit this place is full of douchebags.

People have the right to ask questions. It is a forum. We’re here to share information, opinions and help each others.

What gives u the right to judge or attack others? If you don’t want to help, simply don’t reply. It is that simple.

Back to the topic, I believe small progresses are being made. It is just matter of time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] cpgifford:
Why is it that when ever some one asks about root on the G2 every one gets pissed off? I mean we are allowed to ask questions right? Lets not make this thread a dildo as well lmao
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
That's some bs. Dude asks a question and people want to flame him. If he's asking its cuz he don't know obviously. So quit being douche bags.

Sent from my HTC Vision G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] mgshute:
Here is some common sense, if you follow along you would notice that VISIONary is filling the gap for some basic root needs, (wifi tether, disabling packages, ect.) once those basic needs were met the masses no longer gave a **** about the root. Hence the slow down in postings. There are people still working on a perm root, myself being one of them. There are just lots of dead ends and trial and error.
[G2 and Desire Z General] soundslikemitch:
Point proven :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
I'm just going to stop posting here entirely. I ask a simple question because I obviously don't live on this forum and don't have time to read every single post made. There are some cool users here but a lot of you are dicks for no reason. I don't browse this forum as heavily and thoroughly as you guys do, give me a damn break. I get flamed and called lazy because these coders are hard at work. Really? I'm a full time student and athlete but now I'm lazy for not sitting in front of my computer all day writing code? Get over yourselves.

Can a mod please lock this topic.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mpmilestogo:
I know its not the same but...

When a new version of ubuntu is pushed out for beta testing, ubuntuforums hosts a development forum where everyone is invited to ask questions and participate. I'm not a developer but have used Linux for over 10 years at a few levels. I suggest that we approach rooting the G2 with the same enthusiasm and verve that the ubuntu community does with a new beta, RC, and release. If we start clamping down on asking questions no one will answer them either. I don't really think that's the purpose of this forum at all. We're all after the same thing. its either information or access to information. Humbly suggest we all seek ways to disclose and discuss and not "ivory tower" the information.

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] AndroidBruce:
This thread should have been handled this way...

Hey man go ahead and check out the wiki for the latest information on root http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2

And in the future if you would like to get a faster response check out the irc channels

#g2-chat and #g2root on irc.freenode.net

And that should have been all the needed to be said, no flaming or responses to flaming etc.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jorsher:
Op has been a **** in other threads, even claiming he'd beat the crap out of someone if he knew where the person lived. Funny he can't handle similar responses.
[G2 and Desire Z General] soundslikemitch:
Be honoest. Did you even take the time to read the first post in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=801206?
[G2 and Desire Z General] cdombroski:
RE: Has progress been made?

Unfortunately, both the wiki and the thinktank threads have gone silent the past few days. IRC is pretty quiet right now too (a brief discussion about overclocking, and now a few people talking about cars in g2-chat).

So while normally this question would not make any sense, after a few days of no information in the 2 major outlets, it does. After all, it's possible that something has happened that hasn't been posted yet, or maybe it's not in a state to be posted yet.

Either way, it would be nice to hear "yeah, we're working on a breakthrough and think we've almost got it" or "we haven't had any luck yet but we're still working on x, y and z ideas"
[G2 and Desire Z General] soundslikemitch:
Thank you for bring this hypocrisy to our attention. I didn't even go that far. More from the fact that I am scared whatever form of disrespect/laziness the OP might have might be contagious.

To be fare I am only do this cause there was a clear sticky thread at the top of the "G2 Android Development" page posted by Raynmo5 here. In fact I think every fourm I have ever been to on XDA has had well made and maintained wiki's and stickies.

XDA rewards those willing to work hard. Doesn't matter if you can code or just following someone else's instructions and then posting a bug/problem you had, we respect you. I don't like people who come on to these fourms just to leach 100% and can't even spend 5 minutes looking at the stickies at the top of the page. There wasn't even a need to use the search feature.
[G2 and Desire Z General] userfriendlyme:
Thank you for this response. Really how much does it take for people to just either answer a question and keep it moving or if you don't have anything nice to say....say nothing at all. Thank you for your civil response
[G2 and Desire Z General] InGeNeTiCs:
You're right, he posted in the development forum. However, his thread was not about development. It was about a development thread. The reason people don't like posts like that in development is because if everybody starts doing it, it drives back relevant posts. So instead of having popular threads on the first couple of pages, you're flooded with posts asking if we have root.

Mods are doing a great job of keeping the forums clean and organized as far as relevance goes. Still, people need to relax. Just ignore the post. If it's miscategorized, a mod will move it. Simple.

OP, your question is valid, but it's still the wrong forum.
[G2 and Desire Z General] keenerb:
This thread has been at the TOP of the thread list consistently all day, whereas a simple, concise, informative reply would have seen this thread towards the bottom of the main screen in just a few hours.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Corylulu:
I understand your concern for keeping the threads clean, I do agree. However EVER WITH the wiki, you still don't really know what progress has been made in recent time. There isn't a given progress bar that people are updating. So it easy could appear to people that the root process is at a stand still even AFTER looking at the wiki and through the threads.

I think this was a reasonable question and shouldn't be attacked. Maybe someone can make a Wiki change log.

But regardless, best bet is to read through the IRC logs. Lets stop talking about this.
[G2 and Desire Z General] minotauri:
you know... i posted the 2nd reply to the thread saying to read the wiki for info. but all this anger/complaining has really overtaken this thread. i dont understand why this G2 forum is so fiesty.
[G2 and Desire Z General] 2girls1cup:
Both of you have a sketchy history..ppl on xda are so funny
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
I think there is a lot of misdirected anger here. Its not just due to people being upset because the question was posted in the wrong section... its due to the fact that we don't have root yet. Sure the Visionary app by Paul has subsided a lot of frustration for most people but its just a distraction. That's why a little question has turned into a lynching...
[G2 and Desire Z General] itsmikeramsay:
I agree man. By the way great video reviews on the G2....I appreciate you clarifying the hinge problems.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jorsher:
Sorry 2girls1cup, but how does that comment make me sketchy?

I've never flamed anyone, questioned someone's intelligence, gave smartass responses, or even joked about whooping someone's ass as the person in question has. I fail to see what puts me in the "sketchy" category.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Deuces:
QQ kiddos. QQ.
[G2 and Desire Z General] RaffieKol:
This is a question I would want a answer to cause I want to return my G2 if there wont be root.... And wait

And for Now get the Mytouch 3g Slide and update it to 2.2 (It also has 512 ram a 600mhz processor (which you can overclock) and I think enough internal memory to last...... Also they have it refurbished for $50.00....

Peace
[G2 and Desire Z General] starkruzr:
Does anyone else like the idea of starting a G2 root "jackpot" under the care of a trusted community member like Cyanogen? I would ante up :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] havikx:
gunna have to do something. anything thread about workin to get root on the g2 turns into a big fight over a bunch of nothing that has to do with root, the g2, or android.

c'mon kids. play nice. time to be grownups now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] apueb008:
I'm down, let's give the code monkeys some motivation! :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] havikx:
and please, if any1 on this thread has made any progress at all...any progress once so ever... please please post. otherwise, asking about how a major technical achievements progress is going while having no idea how to do any of the work yourself... it makes you appear like the boss you hate at work that does the same stuff to you. the one that walks up and says "why isn't this done. grrrr!"... and you curse his name after he walks away knowing he cant do your job.

dont be that guy. just wait patiently.
[G2 and Desire Z General] fattire:
FWIW I've been doing a lot of the wiki updates (along with others), and the truth is there's not much to update at the moment. Still, here's a mini-status report (admittedly I've missed a couple hours of logs) on the effort to the best of my understanding:

Basically, scotty2, who was heading up the emmc attack has been away for a few days-- and he more than deserves it. The guy slept like 6 hours total in 8 days reverse-engineering gigantic portions of the Linux kernel w/o source and w/unfamiliar documentation for the card, only to have the source finally appear on day 8, after he had already done most of of the hard work.

He was able to figure out how to switch off power on just about every component of the phone EXCEPT the emmc, which is needed to stop the write-protect. So even though he and the group figured how to re-init the emmc after a soft reset, there appears to be no way to fully power the card down from the kernel. (I hope I have this right. Someone might correct me if I don't.)

So over the weekend, attention shifted to looking for holes in HBOOT, the bootloader, as well as the radio, both of which apparently play a part in setting the card to write-only (I believe it HAS been detected to be in "power-on" write-only, so that theory is confirmed). They're looking for a way to either stop the boot from putting the card in power-on write protect by taking advantage of a bug in HBOOT, I think that's the current strategy.

So auditing is underway for that.

While scotty2 is away, others like tmzt_, BioSehnsucht, and esmaxwill have been working hard. I've also seen some work done by IntuitiveNipple, who's put together a whole site full of goodies (sorry, xda's not letting me include the link-- check the #g2root logs), including some reverse-engineering notes on HBOOT, including a partition list. He's supposed to do more on this tomorrow. I've also seen the Linux kernel maintainer for the emmc module "cjb" stop by a few times to chip in. A lot of sleep lost by a lot of really smart people so far in this.

Other avenues have been explored, such as looking for weakness in the zip libraries used when unarchiving the update.zip files as well as a few other things dealing with the recovery. The fact that adb is shut off in recovery is not helpful, and as far as I know, these other methods have all been dead ends.

Again, this is all what I've gleaned from following irc. I invite additions and corrections.

FT
[G2 and Desire Z General] franky1029:
From what I read, the main focus is shifting to HBOOT and radio. Scotty2 seemed to admit that there doesn't seem to be a reason to keep going the way he had gone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sheek360:
Thanks for the update
[G2 and Desire Z General] flip3547:
Maybe helpful Maybe not

I have been reading the logs since they began and can't follow too much cause I really don't know anything about these things. But, I could swear I read somewhere that they didn't have radio source files? Again, I could have read wrong or maybe these have already been attained by those that need them, hopefully I can be helpful.

Here is something I found:

http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/Vision/ListOfRadioImgSourceFiles

I've attached the file in notepad as well. Like I said, just trying to be helpful.
[G2 and Desire Z General] j.books:
people should relax. when root is achieved, rest assured, you will hear about it.

custom ROMs are awesome and all that, but we've only had our phones for like 2 weeks. IMO the stock ROM is pretty decent, especially considering we already have superuser access. do I want CM 6.1? of course. as soon as its ready, Cyanogen will post it right in this very section, and I will happily flash it. until then, me and my G2 are still on our honeymoon
[G2 and Desire Z General] starkruzr:
Is anyone interested in my "jackpot" idea for whoever unlocks the bootloader? I bet we could get a lot of contributors.
[G2 and Desire Z General] cbmm:
i will happily contribute to they guyS responsible for taking part in this, but im sure theyre doing it not for the money.
[G2 and Desire Z General] istheGman:
I would contribute to jackpot

-- sent from my G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] Android_FTW:
yeah - i'd pitch in!

its totally worth it
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
Don't worry about it... You're a nice person from what I've noticed here on the forum. Folks here just like to see fights once in a while... some participate and some just encourage it. I wouldn't take stuff so personally.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] subbuaxel:
Hi,

Anyone please give me a link or process to install HTC sense 2.5 in my HTC touch pro running wm 6.1.I dont want to flash my ROM.i need a cab file to do the installation.Please help.:):):):)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kirta89:
I want this .cab file too :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] bkillah:
can you give me a link to download that wm 6.1 without sense please?
[Epic 4G Themes] shabbypenguin:
very nice, thanks much for this.

5 bucks someone makes a comment about how this is in dev and not in the themes and apps board tho
[Epic 4G Themes] mkasick:
Crud, I figured I made a mistake somehwere.

I don't believe I can move the thread myself, would the powers-that-be mind placing this in the appropraite location? Thanks!
[Epic 4G Themes] yehster:
Thanks

Wrong forum or not, this is perfect, I was going to change my system keylayout to accomplish this before, but this is a much better solution.
[Epic 4G Themes] cicada:
Amazing, thanks for this! ConnectBot was near-perfect for my needs, you just pushed it over the finish line :)
[Epic 4G Themes] drunix:
Haven't tried it yet, but I was just about ready to do keymappings identical to yours at the android layer... I like your solution a lot better, though, thank you!
[Epic 4G Themes] flyers2114:
Thx for this op!!!
[Epic 4G Themes] JungleJiujitsu:
Sorry, but im just about a month into the "rooting scene" and am not yet familiar with what this is, can someone please explain?
[Epic 4G Themes] shabbypenguin:
this will allow you to change what keys do what, it is a very handy app
[Epic 4G Themes] spyderfry:
Will it prevent the Epic from missing keystrokes??? :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G Themes] mkasick:
ConnectBot is an open-source terminal emulator and SSH client for Android. If you're a Windows user, think of it as a combination of the "Command Prompt" and PuTTY programs, but for your phone.

The Epic is an important device for ConnectBot users as it's one of the few programs that really requires (or at least benefits from) a hardware keyboard. Unfortunately, the Epic keyboard, while very good compared to the Droid (and I'd argue the G2 also) is missing a few keys important for ConnectBot, but has other extra keys that are unused. So this is a modified version of the program to better support the Epic's keyboard, making ConnectBot much more convenient to use.

In general ConnectBot is not a particularly important program for "rooting" (although root makes it vastly more useful locally). As suggested earler, this thread should really belong in the Themes & Apps forum.

That said, I imagine ConnectBot is a somewhat popular program among Epic owners as its (near) requirement of a hardware keyboard makes the Epic a much more suitable device to use with it than the Evo, and so those folks interested in using it are more likely to purchase an Epic.
[Epic 4G Themes] Firon:
This is awesome. Thanks a lot! Now ConnectBot is pretty much perfect. :D
[Epic 4G Themes] JungleJiujitsu:
So is it like what someone posted a few weeks back on how they changed the smiley face key to place an @ symbol instead, but only now with this app I can change it to whatever I want?... TIA
[Epic 4G Themes] mkasick:
shabbypenguin is incorrect. ConnectBot has nothing to do with altering keyboard mapping for the entire system. I just posted a modified version of ConnectBot that has altered keybindings internally.

As a terminal emulator, it is unusual compared to most Android applications in that much of the hardware keyboard support is implemented internally (from the keycode level up) instead of using standard input widgets.

Sorry for the confusion.
[Epic 4G Themes] Forcystos:
Awesome work. Is there a Ctrl shortcut on the regular build? I got stuck the other day because I couldn't Ctrl+C out of an app.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G Themes] mkasick:
Not on the hardware keyboard. But if you tap the screen an icon "Ctrl" and "Esc" appear that you can tap.
[Epic 4G Themes] djradon:
Awesome, muchas gracias. Can we donate?