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[HD2 General] light_n_roses:
I got 2 question regarding the t-mobile hd2 because I'm thinking to buy one !

I can flesh the international HD2 custom roms that are based on tmous driver ?

If I wanna cook a my personal rom for the t-mobile HD2 the only difference between the standard hd2 and the t-mobile one is that I have to use the driver of the official t-mobile roms instead of the internation hd2 drivers right ?

Android build that boot from memory card can all be installed on t-mobile HD2 or I have to check if they are compatible with t-mobile hd2 like windows mobile ?

Sorry for all this question but I need to know those things !
[HD2 General] ddgarcia05:
What exactly do you mean by international version? If I had a US and International HD2 I could flash the same custom rom onto both. For example Energy Rom and Chucky Roms. I would have to first change the international HD2 radio to a .50. radio due to them having a .51. radio.

If you provide me with a link to a specific rom I could say yes or now.

These rom http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534 for the most part are compatible with both US and International HD2 devices. With the expectation of a few which are probably International stock rom dumps with a .51. radio.

Custom rom cooking is not at all an easy task. But, yes all the drivers are available online. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=592663 is a good source for drivers.

Just because HTC cooked a specific driver into the rom does not mean it's the best. All program / cabs and easliy be found on XDA. Take a look at my sticky and you'll see links to stock cabs that have been extracted from both US and international devices. A good example is the wifi router cab which wasn't released in the US stock rom but was included in the international stock rom. The program / cab can be used on any HD2 device.
[HD2 General] light_n_roses:
I meant the t-mobile version of the HD2 and the standard ( or european version call it how you want ! ) of the HD2, I was asking this because in many rom here : http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534 has been specified to not be used on the t-mobile version od the HD2 to avoid brick of the phone..

So I can use rom all rom dased on tmous rom and not the one based on the "radio" series right ?

Is there this difference also for android build or no ?
[HD2 General] ddgarcia05:
Android is universal, its only loads from the SDcard.

Can you give me a link to a rom in that thread that you shouldn't load on your phone? I want to see if you know what to look for.

For example the one that say Europe Rom....don't get that one. It's mostly the shipped roms that come with a radio already installed.

If it makes you feel better here the link http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=624 to what should be an only USA rom thread.
[HD2 General] light_n_roses:
yea I have checked now and it seems that almost all rom are compatible...maybe I have had the bad luck to find one of the few ones that are not compatible the last time I checked...the onyl big problems seems to be the HD2 with 1 GB rom from t-mobile..
[HD2 General] hossshad:
plz xplain about USB host, we are all confused:confused::)
[HD2 General] faresmasouty:
Ok can someone please explain why wp7can run on hd2 but not on desire or sgs

you said it ur self that drivers will have to be written for hd2 because the hardware isnt actually the same so isnt that the case for desire and sgs write new drivers and it should work

i am not an expert and iam not saying give me wp7on my sgs

but i just want to know the reason why it cant be run on other devices

please explain and thanks.

Ps also not saying i wouldnt appreciate wp7 on sgs but it needs to have android working well first:-P
[HD2 General] nlo:
I have a very strange problem and if anyone could help me I'd very much appreciate it as I can't find anything similar in the forums (with a solution) after a month of searching.

My HD2 has HardSPL3 and the ChuckyDroid ROM with Android on an SDCard.

The USB connector on the handset has stopped working (the metal D-shape thing wobbles about) so I cannot flash a ROM to it via the ROM Update Utility, only by the LEOIMG.nbh on an SDCard method works.

I need to send the handset back to Vodafone for a warranty repair, but obviously having HSPL3 and a custom WM ROM invalidates my warranty so I need to flash the stock ROM back to the phone to remove them both.

Problem is that I can flash any custom ROM I find to the handset using the SDCard method (Except Energy ROM's for some reason) but when I try to flash the stock Vodafone ROM using this method it fails to start the phones flash routine.

So I'm stuck with a phone I can't charge (using desktop charger for the battery atm) and I can't send back for repair. :(

Any ideas?????

Thanks in advance! :)
[HD2 General] devabhishek:
ok so your answer in simple words is NOTHING IN THIS WORLD IS IMPOSSIBLE

of course it is possible to have wp7 running on any of the devices , android running on any device, iphone os running on any devices .. provided there are thousands of dedicated developers working on it...

when you see android running on the galaxy s or the desire there are thousands of people which these big companies hire to work for them and develop the operating systems and make it 100% compatible for running on that device

so if you want wp7 to run on samsung galaxy s or any other device its very simple.. hire thousand developers and give them this job of making it compatible for any device u wish simple as that.

the bottom line:- the people who make so many great builds, custom roms, android roms compatible for our devices put hours and months in making their roms .. and thats why please give them respect by not asking such silly questions....
[HD2 General] devabhishek:
ohhh.... thats really a tricky situation .. may be open up a new thread so that some of the experienced dev's can help u out ..

just copy the whole thing and put it in a new thread.. cozz this post could go unnoticed ...
[HD2 General] nlo:
Ok, will do.

Any suggestions on which would be the best forum section to post it in?

Thanks! :)
[HD2 General] ddgarcia05:
This one cuz it has more traffic

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=532

Have you tried cleaning your usb ports with a toothbrush? Turn off the computer before doing so.
[HD2 General] redzepplun:
My question is this.

I have the US T-Mo HTC HD 2 of course. Running a Nexus One Android ROM on it.

How do I go about modifying it? Do I have to use the Nexus One themes and apps? Where and how do I install my tweaks?
[HD2 General] ddgarcia05:
What kind of tweaks? I've never hear of any tweaks being available for only one certain build.

Tweak away.
[HD2 General] redzepplun:
Icons, clocks, taskbar, colorize the black & white stuff....etc

My reasoning is that since it's a N1 based ROM I figured I needed N1 themes.

And as far as tweaking where do I place it on my sd card?
[HD2 General] ddgarcia05:
Anywhere. Create a folder in the root directory and just dump them all in the folder. Use astro to activate any apk's you have on hand. Also I like using app control to back up all my .apk files and store them in one spot. That way I could just copy paste the files onto my next android build.
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
The reason that WP7 will NEVER be ported to the Desire or Galaxy S is that they aren't already Windows devices. As far as I am aware, Windows Mobile has never been ported to another device that didn't already have Windows Mobile on it to begin with. Now i'm not talking about Windows CE, I am talking about full blown Windows Mobile. As fragmented as WinMo is, it still requires certain device components to run, unlike Android with its Linux base, because Linux runs on literally anything, and the WinCE kernel(what makes Windows Mobile and WP7 work) does not, it requires certain hardware. Thats the long and short of it in my opinion, that WP7 will most probably be ported to the HD2, but NEVER to the Desire or Galaxy S, or ANY OTHER Android device for that matter.
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
And also, allow me to reiterate...

THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR HELP WITH ANDROID. AT ALL. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH, THIS GUIDE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION ONLY, IF YOU NEED EXTENSIVE HELP PLEASE PM ME WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. DO NOT PM ME ASKING TO LINK YOU TO AN ANDROID BUILD OR HELP WITH INSTALLING IT AS THESE INSTRUCTIONS ARE CLEARY OUTLINED IN THIS GUIDE.
[HD2 General] Auralol:
Any chance getting pretty same guide for International HD2, not the Tmobile one?

Thanks in advance!
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
There is a TON of info for the international HD2, which is why I didn't make one for it. Just read the stickies in the general section and you should find any and all information you need.
[HD2 General] nlo:
Thanks, will post it there. :)

It's the Micro-USB connector on the handset itself that is borked, but i'll give it a try with a toothbrush anyway, can't do any harm!
[HD2 General] louieyasashi:
great post mate...
[HD2 General] faresmasouty:
So theoraticly if samsung released wp7device later with simmiliar hardware to sgs then this would have maybe a1%chance?

Or even samsung cant make that device due to the hardware\software limitations of wp7

Sorry about asking too much.
[HD2 General] baam2k:
i think that the drive is bigger for hd2 owners to get wp7 working then other devices since people who bought the hd2 kinda thought it would get updated to wp7 anyway .

so for people working on that, the motivation is bigger then for other devices.

another aspect would be how much devices are sold .

i mean the more people bought a device the bigger is the chance that some of those working on an wp7 or whatever port port.

and since hd2 is a verry good seller the chance is bigger to see a wp7 port then other devices.

also people buying android based phones ar not liking wp7 to much i guess .

so smaller chance for a port.

and of course the hd2 is kinda ideal specced for windows 7 since it was ment become a wp7 phone so its also easier i think to get it on hd2.

:):)
[HD2 General] chrizt:
many thanks!

OMG! So glad when I discover this thread, thank you so much for ashasaur.

eventhough I did android to my hd2 already but I spent almost 2 weeks to study each thread before eventually saying "what the heck, I'm gonna do it!!" as too many things to consider berfore I go to this build or that build, this rom or that rom.

even now I haven't start studying about doing the internet in my hd2 because it will cause too much hassle but this thread makes everything more focused so I definitely feel very grateful.

thanks again!
[HD2 General] jellyfisher:
thanks for putting it together man
[HD2 General] JDM Civic EG8:
This is a sick guide! Deffinately answered my questions.
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Cool! I am glad it helped!
[HD2 General] landycog:
:) links to the proper forums would be good and a link to this page, there are so many forums some noobs including me are forever searching, afraid to ask a question :eek:. you guys are great and made me an hd2 believer, thanks for all your help. i now have a great working hd2 , looking foward to the future with this device.:D
[HD2 General] skankflake:
Thank you guys! You guys gave my tmous hd2 new life with bangsters rom!
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Cool! I am SO happy that this thread is helping people. Look for new updates to it later on tonight!
[HD2 General] ddgarcia05:
I'm planing on making a video or two tonight. Or probably record them all tonight. The long part is editing. Which will take a couple. :)
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Awesome dude!

AND ALSO! MEDIUM SIZED UPDATE ON PAGE ONE TO THE GUIDE!
[HD2 General] xRedRiot:
Changing the radio

So i am running android on my hd2. Everything works fine except in call sounds. I've done quite a bit of searching and found that the radio is the problem. My question is: is it possible to just flash a new radio and leave the rest of the rom as is? Or is it some type of package deal where you have to flash both. I am running stock winmo 6.5
[HD2 General] ddgarcia05:
When flashing a radio you don't have to hard reset your phone, it's not like when you flash a rom.

I do have a question for you. When you say "call volume" do you mean that you can barely hear the person when they call you? Or, do you mean the voice of the other person sounds some what of a robot?

I believe the robot voice is caused by the radio and rom paring. The low in call volume is not due to a radio, but the android build it self...the kernel and modules to be more exact.
[HD2 General] yoda01:
Awesome guide, thanks! Now to find the right Android ROM for me! :D
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
New update on page one!
[HD2 General] Darkside_:
Awesome guide.

I'll be directing HD2 owners here frequently.
[HD2 General] holdup:
Quick question, I installed the stock ROM 3.14 WWE Build (I have never installed any custom ROMS before), are Android ROMs still compatible with it or is it something I should be concerned about. I read somewhere that HSPL3 no longer works with 3.14 WWE
[HD2 General] xRedRiot:
I hear the robot voice when I make calls, but I also don't have any ringtones. I believe the latter is due to the android build itself and not my device. I guess I should have asked what I should do to my hd2 in order to get calls to work in the android part. Just update the radio? or should I install a new rom too?
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
If you are using the original stock ROM, IE 2.13, then yes, you must install a new ROM in order to get the robot voice to stop, and yes you must use a different distro of Android in order to get ringtones to work.
[HD2 General] dajdogg2:
ok i have the hspl3 program, and i was gonna run it but before i do i want to ask, will that force me to flash a new rom? and if not. will it delete all data? i wanna keep stock rom and stock radio.
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
No flashing HardSPL won't make you flash a new ROM, and it won't touch your data. But if you are going to keep the stock ROM and radio...there really is no point in HardSPL'ing your device, as thats only for flashing a custom ROM or new radio ROM.
[HD2 General] xRedRiot:
Actually I have the updated stock rom (3.14) and radio 2.15.50

Does that make any difference at all? I want to put ChuckyRom GTX Tabtastic as my custom rom. I've found the flashing guide here on xda, but I cannot find if this radio will be adaquete for android. So that's my question, do I need to put a new radio too?
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Oh I see. It really just depends on the build you use and your geographical area. In order to flash yes you will have to HardSPL, but as far as what radio goes its really all relative. You may find that that one works fine.
[HD2 General] dajdogg2:
well i was really thinking that essentially that running hspl3 that it would "unlock" it? im not really sure. thats why i asked, is there any way to unlock it so i can remove .net 2.0? then install .net 3.5? it wont let me remove or install either.
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
No, flashing HardSPL won't unlock the ROM of your device to remove preinstalled packages in the EXT ROM, the easiest way for you todo what you are talking about is to flash to another ROM, perhaps the latest T-Mobile stock ROM and then apply .net 3.5.
[HD2 General] dajdogg2:
it came with the latest version from t-mobile and ive been using it for like 2 monthes now and have a lot of data stored on it that i dont want to loose, will any other unlocker or anything else besides reflashng work on this phone without worries of turning it into a brick?
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Well the risks of flashing are really quite slim if you follow the instructions, and flashing to the newest T-mobile stock ROM(which is not what you have by they way, you have 2.13, the newest is 3.14) does not require HardSPL. You can use a program such as Sprite Backup to completly backup all installed programs and tweaks that you have applied so far, and then restore the backup once you have flashed to a new ROM. I can confirm that it definately works 100% from 2.13 to 3.14, and you can use something like PIMBackup to archive your contacts and text messages and such, and then restore them in the new ROM. It gets you the ability to install .net 3.5, without the need of installing all your crap again. Or you could backup and hard-reset. But lemme ask, for what purpose do you require .net 3.5? You do realize that 3.5 is just a derivitive of 2.0 and will basically do the same thing right? 3.5 is mainly for developers.
[HD2 General] dajdogg2:
well 3.5 will allow me to use older programs where as 2.0 will not. its pretty much only for one program i have that will not work with 2.0 very well, and i know how to flash and it is a very simple process, i just dont wont to do anything to extensive with it just yet.
[HD2 General] ru5key:
Sup ppl. I wanna get HD2 its an amazing phone! But got one problem that i cant figureout. Currently im living in Canada and ill change my provider to Mobilicity. After few days of reserching about hd2 i found one interesting thing about Bandwidth, that T8585 version does not support 3G network of most providers in Canada. I heard that only T9193 does. So my question: Does T-mobile HD2 version support Canadian 3g? And is it the same phone t-mobile version and T9193? Im buying of hands through Kijiji, so how can i check what version is the phone. "Mobilicity’s network uses a frequency called AWS, with bands 1700/2100. This is a fairly new frequency for phone carriers to use and there are only two other carriers in North America that use it."

And one more thing, this ill be my 1st HTC device, so What should i know when im gonna be buying it?

Thank you! Btw sry about my english its pretty bad :(
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Sent you a reply to your PM.
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Massive new update on page one!
[HD2 General] sfolsom:
Stock 3.14 TMOUS Rom

I flashed the 3.14 update from the T-Mobile upgrade website. I just want to make sure it's safe for me to do the HSPL3 and flash a custom ROM.
[HD2 General] jolas:
Problem with TMOUS HD2

I used HSPL3 with both stock Roms 2.13 and 3.14 (SPL 2.10 T-Mobile HD2), but in both after I flashed custom ROMs I lost GPS connection and I have a lot of freezes.

Lost of GPS happens with both radios 2.10 and 2.15 and with different custom ROMs.

With stock T-Mobile stock ROMs, GPS connection is working perfect.

Please advice... :(

p.s. Before flashing, I use Task29 for fresh installs.
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
It prolly just the build you are using, some work better than others afterall. And yes, you can flash HardSPL if you are running the newest stock ROM.
[HD2 General] jolas:
Maybe I fixed it!!!

(I hope to help someone with the same problems)

After the steps I followed, my HD2 is fully working, without any of the above problems (as the time I am writing)!!!

1. Flashed again the 3.14 T-mobile stock ROM

2. Downgraded to SPL2.08, by flashing a (2.08) stock T-Mobile ROM

3. HSPL3 to SPL-2.08 HSPL

4. Flashed Radio 2.11.50.26_2

5. Task29

6. Flashed custom ROM

4. HSPL3 to SPL-2.08.0000

(after every flash I did hard reset)
[HD2 General] sfolsom:
HSPL3

Thanks for your help on my previous question.

Do I need to remove the SIM card and/or storage card when I flash the HSPL3?
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
No, you do not need to remove either of them.
[HD2 General] wendellc:
Dude, Thanks for this writeup. I am a newbie to the HD2. I just got a HD2 for $50 that I am replacing the digitizer. Already done disassembling and prepping the phone for the new digitizer, $100 for a HD2 ain't too bad.

I have had an MT3G for a little over a year that was rooted and really enjoyed it along with the developers. Over the past few months a lot of the developers are upgrading phones so it has been a lot slower in the dev forums there lately.

My wife got a Samsung Vibrant when it came out. It's rooted and really fast but I didn't feel like getting the same phone, although the phone is pretty sweet and the screen is the best I have ever seen. I didn't feel like waiting until next year for a WP7 to just make sure everything is ok. I was really eyeing a Desire HD, but the specs are so similar to the HD2. I wasn' t looking for an iphone either, IMHO it is a boring phone. I inherited a 3gs but after about 2mos of use it went to my sister and now my mom is using it. It is very user friendly, just a simple phone, so it is perfect for my mother.

About a year ago, I was about to get a HD2 but heard so many disappointing reviews. A few days ago, I came across a thread that was making a case for the HD2 vs other phones and decided to jump on the HD2. I am really looking forward to getting my feet wet with windows and the ability to run Android is just a big bonus.

What is even more amazing to me is the the amount of good looking custom ROM's avail for the HD2.

I thought I would have to go searching on how to get started but thanks to the OP I don't have to.:D
[HD2 General] bayou slim:
task 29?

good afternoon everyone, I am a complete noob at this whole flashing fiasco, so please be gentle!I have the newest stock rom (3.14) and I will attempt to flash a custom rom and radio this weekend and I have seen this "task 29" phrase in a few other threads...what is it? where to get it?and do I install it to my device before or after hspl3? thanks in advance for ask replies! go hd2
[HD2 General] jimkart:
I am new to all this and i have some questions.I want to buy an hd2 the us version but i don't know if it will work properly with the greek cosmote network.I don't know much but from what i already read i think that if i change the radio it can work.Am i right or wrong if anyone can help me please.
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Task 29 is a program you run on your PC to completely erase the OS partition of your device, and you can do it before or after HardSPL as it isn't effected.

And @Jim, what bands does Cosmote use? The TMO US HD2 uses a quad-band GSM radio for voice, and CDMA 1700/2100 for 3G data...voice will most assuredy work, but 3G data more than likely will not.
[HD2 General] wafflefaust:
This is a bad ass guide!!! I've had my HD2 for about 4 months now and learned new stuff by reading it. :)
[HD2 General] TheNatural:
The hd2 does NOT have hspa+....
[HD2 General] wafflefaust:
What's the difference between hspa+ and hspa3?
[HD2 General] BaddBerry:
Thanks man, works great!!
[HD2 General] niane01:
hey i am running the droid froyo 2.2 on my hd2 but i am worried about one thing: the launcher pro is giving me hard time it is asking me for an update every time i try to d that it even won't install can't even delete the old one.

the worst thing is i even cannot access the main menu of the phone.

need help plzzzzzzzzzzz
[HD2 General] smit1293:
HD2 problem

Hi, can you please give me the steps to go back to original hd2(windows) because i am thinking of returning the phone
[HD2 General] ashasaur:
Please see the first page of the guide, specifically the second post for info on how todo this.

MEDIUM SIZED UPDATE IN POST TWO OF THE GUIDE, ON PAGE ONE!
[HD2 General] usaywhat:
thanks and subscribed :) just what the dr ordered for a noob
[HD2 General] mas98110:
New T-mobile HD2

ashasaur ,

I just got my new HD2 via Car-toys,($29) here in Seattle and was shocked by the poor battery life. I lost half the battery power by noon about 3hrs. I also experienced the freezing problem noted on other posts.

I decided to disable HTC Sense and installed SPB 3.5 skin. That solved both problems. I've been out all day 12hrs and have over 75% battery left. I know you'er not a big fan of SPB but it seems to work flawlessly.

I may not need to flash a new ROM for now and plan on listing my old HTC Wizard hacked to 6.0 on Ebay.

I hope this might help someone else who has this battery and freezing problem.

Thanks for your very informative post & Merry Christmas