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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] C.Flat:
Awesome. My first attempt at a temproot just made my phone laggy as fu**, but I tried it again and it worked properly
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Quick question: I understand that with the new OTA firmware (1.72), the possibility of permanent root has gone (for now), but does Visionary temp root still work with the 1.72 firmware?

I'd like to have temp root so I can play around with a few things. I'm pretty much a n00b and am not quite ready to put a custom rom on my brand new (and expensive, ZOMG!) toy ;-)

Yes, I can be such a girl ;-)

Anyways, temproot through Visionary on firmware 1.72 possible? Y/N?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
No, you can only get temp root via the new "psneuter" exploit, and that's only really meant to let you then downgrade to an earlier ROM where you will be able to use Visionary/rage.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Thanks steviewevie!

I'll have a look and see if I want to "psneuter" my phone or wait for a new root method..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] djquestt:
ok i really need help i tried to perma root using visionary 12 + and when my phone rebooted im stuck at htc screen i can get into recovery and fastboot modes but i dont know how to fix my semi brick can some please help me i would be eternally grateful
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jomaxwel:
@Paul

Are we ever going to see an r15 for updated phones????
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ahotcarl:
help

someone wanna do it for me i just am not comfortable doing this i bricked the g1 and i just think i will do the same on here i had no other problems with my droid and droid incredible and evo just dont wanna brick my only phone i love this thing lol
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] CoyotinX:
My understading is that, we (guys who don't want to root using a "hard" way) are just waiting for version r15, which should be able to root devices with OTA updates. Seems that r14 can root any non OTA updated device, and i was stupid enough to update my G2 a hour before installing r14. Just like everyone else (or almost everyone), my G2 not only was not perm rooted but also became laggy. i can temp root fine with r14, but thats pretty much it. I can't get my G2 to sync with my win 7, so i can't perm root using ADB, which is the only currently effective way. @ahotcarl if you are indeed so affraid to ADB and do the procedure, i suggest you wait for a new version if you have a OTA updated device. If your device is not updated, just install r14 and root it. I don't think that anyone has bricked their cell just by trying visionary.

If anyone can help with the sync part so that i can ADB to my cell to root it, i would appreciate it, since i have download every possible file and i can't get it to sync on win 7 nor win xp.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ericee9:
done~~thanks ya~~xD
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] l0uisz:
the program no longer seems to be in the market and the main link is damaged can anyone upload the app " VISIONary " i would like to perm root my mt4g thank you!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dj_jormi:
not run r.14 in my desire z with android 2.2.1 and softeare 1.72
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KCRic:
You guys do know this is the wrong method to use for root right? Look in the G2 wiki and use the gfree method - that's the correct way. Can we close this thread since it's obsolete?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Damionix:
Please Help, Anyone

Please, flame me not for I have read and read until I can read no more.

I am just confused and what to make sure I am following the right thread.

My Wife used Visionary r14 for some reason to permaroot her phone and it rebooted and is now stuck on the HTC Boot screen.

I go into Hboot and it shows S-on.

I do a factory reset to no avail.

From my understanding, there is still hope. Please what do I need to do to get her phone back working.

And attempting to flash back says that Main is older.

She is still stock with STOCK RECOVERY, everything.

VISION PVT SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.82.0000

MMICROP-0425

RADIO-26.03.02.26_M

eMMC-boot

Sept 2 2010, 17.59.38

Thanks a million
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kaphish:
Is there anyone out there that has the PC10IMG file which includes the T-mobile OTA update for the T-Mobile G2? I tried using the stock one but it says that it is older than the version that I have on the phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Fludizz:
Hmmm, I used visionary to root my device (HTC Desire Z). I've had a system update since rooting it and I noticed I couldn't do su on the local shell anymore. I now tried to root it again but this does not do anything at all.

So I tried to unroot it (because it states it allready is rooted when I click temproot) and then remove it completely before switching to gfree. However the unroot button in the program doesn't do anything. Is this a problem when I want to switch to the gfree method?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] redpoint73:
You downloaded and installed an OTA update? All recent official ROMs (1.72 or higher) are currently not rootable by any method. You first need to downgrade to the official 1.34 ROM, then root again.

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#December_2010_DZ_OTA_1.72_Update

Also, many, if not most people on here agree that you should not use Visionary to perm root anymore. There is a good chance of bricking the phone.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1025135
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Fludizz:
Yeah I read that yes, however due to the much better battery life with the latest version I prefer to wait for this version to be rooted rather then downgrading to the old ROM (As I read, the procedure to downgrade isn't risk-free and wipes all data).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] thugjedi:
will this work for a gingerbread g2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sigiloso:
Did you found a solution? I'm EXACTLY in the same situation (even the same version numbers)... Don't know where to go. Been reading for 24 hours...

There is even a thread (just found out) "warning Do not use Visionary to permanent root your G2/DZ - high brick risk"...

Could some one help? Or point me in the correct direction... Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martx:
Flash the gingerbread update from football, you'll be stuck with a non rooted phone and no way to root unfortunately

Sent from my bicycle
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sigiloso:
Thank you for your answer.

I did try that, but gives me when starting hboot a message PC10img.zip not available or incorrect... Should I go with fastboot? I have adb installed, and fastboot recognizes the phone, but I am not sure the command lines needed to flash it to the phone...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
You just need to make sure that the file is renamed correctly and at the root of your sdcard.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sigiloso:
I did think of that, and it is breaking my head. I did try pc10img.zip PC10IMG.zip and PC10IMG.ZIP... none worked. I formated the card in fat file system, and the only file placed on it (on root) is the file to flash.

I even extracted on the pc the zipped file to check if the download corrupted the file. But it unzipped ok.

I am going to try a different minisd to see if there is some problem with it.

Any suggestions are welcome.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MR_XXIV:
Remove the .zip part and just name it PC10IMG and you will get stock GB ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sigiloso:
I will try it asap! (fingers crossed), and post my result.

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martx:
Sorry, I forgot to mention the part about renaming it to PC10IMG do not add .zip it'll readit as PC10IMG.zip.zip

Sent from a hampster
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sigiloso:
That doesn't happens in my computer. That is a feature that I didn't like from windows 7, so I disabled the hide known extensions feature. If I remove the .zip part it will actually leave the file without extension. Since I don't have anything to loose, I'll try it anyway.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sigiloso:
As a follow up, I just want to say IT WORKED!

You can imagine my relief. I was already betting on a bricked phone...

I resolved this by redownloading the file through a mirror of mediafire posted by another user on the same Gingerbread thread... although file and date where identical but to be on the safe side... I then put the file on a new miniSD (the one that came with the phone). Used Hboot and voila!

I did use the .zip extension

Now begins the waiting for some root for GB.... sigh...

But I can use my phone again!

Thank you, thank you, thank you... (I was back to a Nokia 6101b that I have in case of emergencies)...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] martx:
Glad it worked for you, this waiting on root stuff is for the birds. Wonder how much longer we'll be waiting.

Sent from a bird
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Fly2Deaf:
Has anyone tried to unroot using visionary?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sigiloso:
UNroot. Nop. Didn't worked for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] C.Flat:
Lol. I tried it once and it did nothing
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] PHIL2577:
I cant get the apk to install it says problem parsing can someone please post a linkv with a working visionary file to download again
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Spastic909:
Use gfree..safer

And I'm pretty sure unroot won't work unless you rooted with only visionary. It works but only if
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] atsic:
Hi. I'm searching around to get temporary root access for my Desire Z runnig actually android 2.3.3 and htc sense 2.1 .

Does visionary work? I read also about gfree, is it going to work with my device or not at all???

PS. For me temporary root is just fine. And i want to unroot my phone just rebooting it. Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Visionary bricks...plus there is already a downgrade method for 2.3.3
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xsteven77x:
Will someone PLEASE CLOSE THIS TOPIC. I guess people don't mind being the reason they ruined a noobs brand new phone. There is no use for this and there are other apps/methods that make this obselete THAT DON'T BRICK.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] atsic:
meaning that i should use what?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RebelScum75:
If they close this thread, where will people who are having trouble go? They'll just start new ones, and now you have 100 different ones.

Also, I still use VISIONary, since I only temproot on my stock 2.2 G2. Sure, if I ever want to permaroot, I know not to use VISIONary for that. But there's no reason to completely close the thread for a useful tool.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] emm_stra:
can visionary temp root sensation??
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
You got to be kidding me -.-...Just let this thread die
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] emm_stra:
Why? Is there something to temp root sensation?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] GOIGIG:
How'd you end up rooting your g2 if you don't mind my asking
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] demkantor:
Up to date info

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2348266
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Cel1084:
So is it possible to use the vsionary root on boot app and edit the script in /data/loca/visionary.sh to boot the Manup456 Prethemed - NexTheme - ROM on my sdcard making it boot into the Sdcard rom on start up, and saving me a lot of trouble on each boot?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] j.books:
start by searching "root" in the market.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theclueless:
just make a blank visionary.sh file, and put

./[path to your rom boot sh file]
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] paulobrien:
Yes indeed! That's the idea! :)

P
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theclueless:
so when can we expect to see your MCR Desire port for G2 running off this temp root? :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xile6:
same here i rebooted

a ton of times and uninstalled and reinstall and it still doesnt work. is there any files we need on the sd card? or any folders we need to make befor hand?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theclueless:
i would try to factory restore the phone and try again; mine worked nicely, and i only have tasker, root explorer and terminal installed
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] konrad1337:
I have it rooting and working just fine and this is an awesome tool to use till perm root comes along. The problem I am running into here is that anytime I create the visionary.sh file and store it at /data/local it seems to crash the OS. Anyone else running into this?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theclueless:
just a blank file or you have some code in it? i have the visionary.sh file point to run another sh file i have, and it works just fine
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] konrad1337:
I had the following in the file.

./data/local/tmp/startrom
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theclueless:
take out the "." and try?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] LogicHell:
I was experiencing the issue where it got stuck at the "rooting device, please wait" screen everytime I tried to run the app. After reinstalling several times nothing seemed to help.

Finally I tried changing my default "home" app back to the default from dxTop, then restarted, then ran visionary and it worked. I restarted and changed the default "home" app back to dxtop and visionary still works, even after rebooting. I don't know if changing the home app back to default is what made it work for me the first time or if it was a coincidence, but I thought I would share to see if this helps anyone else.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] smasraum:
Good find. I'm running ADW Launcher, and that didn't seem to cause a problem.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] konrad1337:
Yea, no go once again. First try after making your suggested change, I didn't receive any FCs at all, but just sat at a black screen. Reboot the phone via adb reboot and tried again once everything was loaded. This time VISIONary actually gave me a FC for the first time and then I run it again and then gives me another FC of a random program I have installed and locks the phone up.

Really weird. With the script in there, roots and runs fine. Add the script and all hel breaks loose lol
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ultma75:
It didn't work either
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
So I've tried reinstalling, rebooting, etc several times and I still can't get it to run properly. Like many other have said, it just shows the "please wait" screen with the icon, closes (or more like flashes) and runs again, never getting anywhere.

I'm selectively uninstalling apps a few at a time now to see if there is some kind of conflict there.

Just uninstalled advanced task killer and startup auditor...

Also, not that it probably matters, but should I try it without having it plugged in to USB? I'm just charging my phone right now, but not sure if that could be conflicting some how.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] GentillyWoods:
Works after reboot and removing LauncherPro as default. Once I ran the app again, good to go. Rocking Wireless Tether now. ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fastludeh22:
Exact same problem here, exact same visionary.sh, same version of rom, exact same results.

I know its not the visionary.sh cause if I manually temp root, then go back into term and type "/data/local/visionary.sh" it runs the script and loads the rom...

Reguardless thanks for this! Your hardwork makes my and a lot of others lives easier, well our android lives, lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
Same here! I'm glad you guys figured out the add on launchers were causing issues when not cleared as default initially. That explains why I had to run my root scripts 10 times before anything happened. Nice find!

Paul, thanks for making things easier as usual! Nice to see you here on the G2. You've really been so helpful to the android platform. With people like you supporting the G2, I'm sure we will see great things come to our device and reinstall people's faith in their purchase. Keep up the good work and thanks again!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
Still can't get it to work, tried uninstalling:

Advanced Task Killer

Startup Auditor

File Manager

Quick Settings

Nothing else on the phone is anything that could interfere...

Any other ideas?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jtyler69:
i tried a hard factory reset...rebooted and installed....still gets stuck flashing....no luck installing
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mattseg:
r1 didn't work first time, restarted, worked fine.

uninstalled r1, installed r2, rebooted, worked great.

Thank you!

...I'm not name calling.. but. Good or bad, this non-real root issue has made this phone is the closest thing we have to all of us being on the exact same setup, I find it interesting some people are having issues, and some are finding everything is working great provided they do a reboot before running it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] randomperson2:
Um... that isn't the case for me. I uninstalled launcher pro, set the stock home app as default, rebooted (several times), ran the app and I'm still stuck on the rooting screen.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] paulobrien:
I'm now running launcher pro and it's still working great!

Wonder what the common difference is... Files from an old temproot? Another busybox?

P
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
my guess is these guys still have all their old files from another temp. root which is causing issues, like you said. I had issues with the app until I cleared defaults on my launcher and removed old busybox, scripts, su, and etc.

works great on restart as well!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
Mind telling me briefly how to do that? :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sino8r:
sure....

rm /data/local/temp/*

uninstall moddified terminal emulator

also depends on the method you used...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
So, randomly, with all my apps installed now...it worked. The only thing that has changed was I turned on USB debugging. Did that need to be on?

That may be the strange variable that is screwing things up. More "advanced" users that have been playing with ADB would have already turned this on, but people just trying out the 1-click install for the first time would not have.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] scoochv:
Worked like a charm after a reboot. Awesome work!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
So stupid question...now that I have root, how do I get the wi-fi hot spot working?

EDIT: Scratch that, download Android-wifi-tether and it works great.

http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/detail?name=wireless_tether_2_0_5-pre9.apk
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TL24:
Not a dumb question, i'm in the same boat lol
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gilnino:
Worked for me first time. No lag at all. Awesome.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Alank009:
turning on USB debugging resolved my issue too
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] smasraum:
So, to go from the one-time-root to the root-at-reboot, do we uninstall the first app and then reinstall the second, or do we just install one over the top of the other as if it was an upgrade?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] polo045:
hey paul listen ive done restarted my phone about fifteen times, reset my phone to factory and still nothing, i even tried both versions, what gives bro? can you help me, im dying to use my tethering, pleases help.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
Go to settings, applications, development, and turn on USB debugging. Reboot, and try again.

Report back if it works. I think I may have discovered the mystery here.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] randomperson2:
Wow. So I guess usb debugging is what you need checked in order for this to work. Hooray for one click rooting!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lethaleagles:
The Other Guys are right - Enabling USB Debugging sorts the issue - make sure you go to -- Settings -> Applications -> Development .. and check USB debugging.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] polo045:
yuo that resolves that. usb debugging, guess like the guy said we arent used to the extra stuff needed to be done to dig in these phones hence our not knowing to click usb debugging automatically. thanks paul. what about roms for this badboy.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xile6:
Yea that fixed it. I normally keep it on but pc acts up sometimes so I had it off

Also does root last till reboot or does it start to disapper as cache is flushed?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] paulobrien:
Awesome, well done RealityDesign spotting the USB debugging issue, will update first post.

Root lasts until reboot.

P
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
Thanks Paul. Excellent work :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] acolby:
after enable us debugging it worked through the root screen, but attempting to run wifi tether it broadcasts ssid but PC won't obtain an IP or access web

was running 2.0.2 my mistake wifi tether 2.0.5pre-9 works fine.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xdviper:
Yes! I can now also confirm that with the usb debugging checked it works! Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
Might be the wrong place to ask this, buuuuut...

With root, in a terminal with SU, I still can't delete the bloatware.

For example:

rm /system/app/com.google.android.apps.finance-1.apk

I get:

rm failed for /system/app/com.google.android.apps.finance-1.apk, Read-only file system

If I try to chmod it, still just says read-only.

So, is there a way to delete these files, or do I have to wait for a permanent root and use a different ROM?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xdviper:
I wouldn't do that, you might need to restore you're phone if you delete those stock apps and reboot because it's going to keep looking for them and it's going to get reloaded every time. Wait until we have permanent root and then go ahead and delete the stock apps.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theclueless:
you need to remount /system as rw, or just use root explorer to do that
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
I remounted as RW, and instead of deleting them, just created a folder:

mkdir /system/app-bak

And moved all the **** I don't want from /system/app to /system/app-bak

mv com.google.android.apps.finance-1.apk /system/app-bak

mv amazonmp3.apk /system/app-bak

mv com.google.android.maps.mytracks-1.apk /system/app-bak

mv Twitter.apk /system/app-bak

Now I'm going to reboot and see if my phone is ****ed...LOL

If it works, then I can just add the commands to move all the stupid software to the script that gets executed when you do the 1-click root :D.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] theclueless:
doesnt matter, your /system/app-bak will get deleted upon reboot, also all the moved apps will be restored
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RealityDesign:
Alright, the good news (as I thought) my phone was fine after rebooting.

The bad news (also as I thought) is the apps didn't stay deleted =P. That's not a problem though, as I was expecting that. So now I'm just going to put the same commands I just did to mount the system drive, move the apps to a diff folder, etc, to the startup script that gets triggered by visionary and it should be all set.

Will report back.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] v8pwrdz28:
The usb debugging fixed my problems, thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rhodes588:
Awesome! Worked great. Is anyone overclocking the G2 yet? I'm kind of afraid to.

Edit: Just tried, wont overclock just underclock.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] v8pwrdz28:
Anyone else having a problem with titanium backup? It only shows 5 apps when I open it