yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Yes I really think the only people that maybe a bit dissapointed is the guys coming from super almoled screens, then again, I had a SGS and I like the lighter colours, the SGS looked a bit fake sometimes..

All in all I think everybody we be happy with the screen ..
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Good choice, lets just hope the battery will be ok, from what I have seen of the battery icon is doesn't go from full to half empty like the SGS did. It seems to be ok but again its to early to tell.

People are going to think I hated my SGS, I didnt, there were many good things about that phone, shame there were also many bad things, no in between wth that phone, the Desire HD is a much more rounded package and I really do prefer it from what time I have spent with it..

Just to add that the phone also had the vodaphone bloatware on it and it was still super fast, would the unlocked, unbranded be better??? maybe..;)
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
I've already commented on this in the latter pages, this is with a battery that cannot of been properly conditioned or doesn't tell us what the main usage was...i-e internet, media player, both ect....

This 15 hours use on a single charge cannot be taken as complete fact
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
This screen question keeps popping up , from what I have seen of it it doesn't look like the older lcd screens, its far to bright and sharp, its just streched over a bigger area as you have already stated. All I can say is that it is either a s-lcd or a very much improved lcd screen...either way it is a very good screen in its own rights.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Ill see if I can visit my "best friend " hahah and have a look tomorrow for you, why didnt I look for this, its a very good valid Question
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Yeah I've just noticed this PDF User Manual has been trending on twitter so I'm expecting a hell of alot of uptake over the next few hours. I invisage yet another temporary blockout on my account lol.

Even in the time it took me to type this I've gained another 60+ unique visitors

Edit: kinda thinking I should actually embed all these files into an actual page and put some advertising or something on it lol! Buy myself a new Dual Core device when it comes out after Christmas
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
has anybody read about the proximity sensor failure?

It's a major issue if it happens to every phone :(

I am very disappointed right now if it turns out to be true for every phone :(

Can someone test it?

Clock?
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
yeah I just read about it a few seconds ago........let's hope it's just a problem with a few dodgy handsets
[Desire HD General] madindehead:
I hope so too. Also hope, that I don't get one of these dodgy handsets tomorrow...will be so annoyed if I do.
[Desire HD General] krucki:
What kind of issue with the proximity sensor? Where you read about it?
[Desire HD General] Hakimy:
for those people who have the Desire HD,can you mix the "internet pass-through" feature with using the phone as wireless router? it would be helpful for me if such thing can be done :)
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Yea I'm already over 3GB in just a few hours...

Total Hits 3,842

Total Visitors 255

Total Unique IPs 241

Total Bandwidth 3.21 GB

Average Bandwidth per Visitor 12.91 MB

Youch. Still not a problem.

Can you tell me how you restricted to XDA referrals only? Tweakers has dropped into 2nd place now, but I just want to be prepared...

Site Visitors

1 http://xdaforums.com 133

2 No Referrer 65

3 http://gathering.tweakers.net 51

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6 http://www.google.nl 1
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Bart, please can you update your original post? There's pages of new information now, and new Mirrors, which need adding.
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Apparently during calls it blacks the screen out and no buttons are active. There are links popping up everywhere, even check the General forum here for Desire HD
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
can someone who alraedy has the phone test this please?

I ordered and already paid mine... and I'll be pissed if this occurs on all mobiles :(
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
yeah we need more people testing this. For some reason i had the feeling something would go wrong. Something always does. I just hope it's software related.
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Mirror Update:

kaipee.co.uk

All images now reduced to lower file size. There doesn't seem to be any loss in quality, only the filesize is reduced.

Unfortunately this is due to the extreme popluarity of these files. Now spreading through twitter, PocketNow, XDA Devs, facebook, pocketpc.ch, tweakers.net, some dedicated Desire HD review sites and other direct links/email.

(projected monthly usage: 138437.18 MB)
[Desire HD General] emreeken:
One more question;

Are there any other language manuals in the SD card? Turkish for example.

Also, where do you download pre cached maps? What countries are listed in?

About the prox. sensor; I hope, it will be solved till we have the phone in Turkey.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Ill will test this tomorrow here in the uk, it sounds like the same problem that the Desire had, a software update fixed it !!! lets hope its the same thing here and not hardware..I cant see it been hardware myself
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
assuming it's a s/w problem....

how ling till htc released this update for the original desire after it came out?
[Desire HD General] ^spicker:
has anyone tested htcsense.com yet?
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
From a thread at HTC forums it hasnt been fully fixed yet .. same for the iphone4.
[Desire HD General] Nameless_87:
can you give me a link to the thread please?

thanks
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
I cant remember :( ....Ive been to bed since then.
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Yes 100% working, even if the phone is on silent it will still ring, it has some great features.
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Desire:

http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/97/p/5694/25568.aspx

Iphail4:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12438375
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
The proximity sensor on my current phone works flawlessly and the one I returned because of the backcover had no problems either!
[Desire HD General] emreeken:
Black; can you have a quick look at your SSD card if there are other language user manuals? Like Turkish?
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Black, if you have these manuals please PM me and I'll give you FTP access to my server.
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
I'm afraid there only is an english user manual!
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Ok so I phoned my friend and asked her to test the sensor, I think she is fed up with me haha, anyway, she reports back with 0 problems?

Maybe not a problem in the UK??...thats a guess because I dont know where the other people with problems live..anyhow, maybe not a major problem?
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
sorry, i found it.
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Probably just the retarded iFools trying to make the DHD look bad because it's better than their crap iPhone
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
..................:eek:
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Re: the proxy sensor. I think it's a Vodafone Netherlands issue. Probably all their bloatware crap. All the reports I've seen are from Vodafone customers.

I would never buy a fone from Vodafone!
[Desire HD General] craigspc:
Not directly a reply to your question, but it flagged something up in my mind. The following was applicable to my (original) desire when I bought it not that long ago. I was new to android and therefore didn't fully understand everything. I don't know if this applies to all handsets, but if so its a good warning for newcomers without a data plan...

In my case, I had a nice new phone but no data plan yet. So, I set it up to use my wifi connection and disabled everything else. These setting worked fine. However, at one point I enabled the hotspot mode but forgot that it was still running in the background..

To cut a long explanation short - I figured out that when away from home and with the wifi hotspot feature was enabled, my phone was downloading updates and data over premium cost G3 connection that I didn't realise I had. As soon as the hotspot mode was disabled, the phone preferences were effective again and the connection was cut off.

Hope that makes sense, but it really could prove expensive for someone...
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
There is no bloatware on the HD's from Vodafone and as I said earlier MY prox. sensor works perfectly! So please check your facts before shouting something!
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
ah that suxx, but sounds like a software problem? if it's like this it should be fix without problems?:cool:
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
My friends is vodaphone and no problems???
[Desire HD General] lazex:
Rudely, but it is true!! :D
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
What bloatware? There is no bloatware on my Dutch Vodafone Desire HD. No Vodafone 360 crap. Its just pure HTC.
[Desire HD General] lazex:
Clock1932, and you tried to make "root" for yours DHD?

Whether you tried to make screenshots from the screen?
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Maybe you got lucky and they hadn't had time to install their software. I don't know, it was just an observation.
[Desire HD General] xazac:
I have a question:

I want to know if the "adb shell - pm setInstallLocation 2" command from the Android SDK (to force installation on the SD memory) works with the Desire HD. And if it doesn't, I want to know if App2SD works.

Really thanks, can't wait :)
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
guys the broken DHD was Clock's phone?
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
broooooooo it's android 2.2 you can choose where ever you want :eek:
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Yeah I would like to know if it was clock's, after all his help I hope not, he doesn't deserve that.
[Desire HD General] xazac:
That's not true. If the developer didn't made that option possible, you can't move the app to the SD memory.
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
no sir, go and watch the android 2.2 release videos and you'll see the"move to SD option" default in the system without any apps:rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
i totally agree :rolleyes:, maybe thats why he disappeared after he reported the news
[Desire HD General] xazac:
Uhm, I want to be sure. So, I'll wait for the owner's reply ;)
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
yep thats your democratic right :p
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
sorry for been a bit off topic but is £449.99 a good price for this phone?
[Desire HD General] latte33:
I think so, I buy from mobilefun and with Quico 5%.... it cost me 441... but have to wait :(
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
i'm talking here exc.Vat so i'll say HELL NOOOOOOO, cuz it's only £390.99 on handtec

but if your price inc.Vat you should compare it with the handtec price with vat

Edit: ok handtec with vat is £459.41 so if the £449.99 inc.Vat then it's very good
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Thanks its just that Ive bought one already but my wife said her phone has broken....and she wants a new one, I said the Nokia 5800 is pretty cheap now, I cant tell you what she said or I may get banned, looks like Im going to have to buy another one...well Im on a promise tonight so how could I have said no :D
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
hahahaha man you make me laugh every time you mention your wife :P ur pushing me away from marriage(still single :(:cool:) good luck for tonight and make every moment worth paying for the second DHD ;)
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Oh dont worry I will !!

Better get back on topic before the mods get me haha.

So anyway...wow this has been an expensive day...

EDIT - Marriage is great as long as you do what she says !!

Ive heard it was clock's that got dropped and smashed....man that sucks...after all his effort...we should all start up a clock HD donate fund !..
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Yeah thats with vat, thanks for that
[Desire HD General] NoEnd:
i'm in let see the other members xD, i didnt order mine yet i'm kinda afraid cuz i didnt do any online ordering before, dunno which website to buy from, and i want the accessories also so i had to wait cuz i dont want to pay for shipping twice
[Desire HD General] mannyb:
Perhaps it has been answered already, but has anyone tested the touchscreen yet? Using the app "Input Benchmark" to measure the Hz of the digitizer and how many simultaneous pressure points the screen can register.
[Desire HD General] sanju007:
Can you tell us

It the internet and scrolling smooth ?

Is there any lag (gallary opening apps etc etc) ?
[Desire HD General] Overloaded:
It supports a maximum of 4 touch points.

But i have no idea what the Hz of a touchscreen means :p
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Very smooth indeed and there is no lag what so ever , the only very very slight delay is when flash is loading pictures and banners on web pages. I can compare this to my SGS which I sold and the desire hd beats the **** out of it...
[Desire HD General] mannyb:
Thank you. 4 seems more than enough.

The Hz measures how often the digitizer "reads" the screen every second. A low Hz can make the screen seem unresponsive and slow. The Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 digitizer is only capable of about 27 Hz which can be the reason a lot of people find it infuriatingly slow. The Samsung Galaxy S on the other hand has a high Hz, at 60 Hz, and it has been described as very responsive.
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
The touch frequency is 40hz

The acc sensor is 70hz
[Desire HD General] sanju007:
Okey thanks, I hade the Galaxy s and there was always lag, okey the DHD had one problemen and that is the prox sensor i hope HTC will fix this soon

The normale HTC desire had the same issus with prox sensor but i don't know of HTC have fix that for de normale Desire ?

But i hope they will fix it for the DHD

Sorry for my bad engels
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
so is that good?
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
What is the best media App for android? I want to do some movie playback testing!
[Desire HD General] nikjensie:
Try Rockplayer with a 720p clip.... lags like no other on my N1...

//Nik
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
Well everything is very responsive so I guess it's good enough!
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
My friends DHD has no such problems here in the UK
[Desire HD General] sanju007:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4-yZp_4OWA

is this true that the video copy lags ?
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
No lags from what I saw of my friends or what I saw of clock's.

Check page one for video links
[Desire HD General] bratfink:
Read!!

If you read the description it says 'my htc desire... recorded in hd' although yes the title is missleading...
[Desire HD General] phunkycow:
I think this is probably recorded by a Desire, not Desire HD :) The title is misleading (as it's probably referring to the quality of the video being HD), check the description.

Edit: Damnit, bratfink beat me to it :p
[Desire HD General] mannyb:
Thank you!

70 Hz acc is very good.

40 Hs touch freq is slightly better than average. Take a look at this chart:
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
hahahaha yeah well spotted, that will explain that then LOL
[Desire HD General] sanju007:
Hahah sorry for my post then

It a great phone, but many poeple have only issus with the prox sensor if HTC solve this porblem and make the phone more faster then the phone will rock
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Well I just bought my wifey a Desire HD, now this might stop her having a go at me for a week or two....until the newness wears off...we will both have the same phones, she wants a pink case for hers so we wont get them mixed up..

Time for that promise I spoke about earlier haha

Have fun guys (and girls?)...

will check in tomorrow and see whats new

This thread is growing quicker than my kids :)
[Desire HD General] bratfink:
LOL

Lol at how the ancient Hero tops everything :|!!
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
I had a laugh to myself when I saw that too...good old hero !!
[Desire HD General] mannyb:
Quite amazing, isn't it? The Hero and the budget Huawei (T-Mobile Pulse).
[Desire HD General] adwinp:
Actually, performance-wise, the new Vplayer tops every other player out there.

It's still alpha though.
[Desire HD General] bratfink:
DHD video playback

I was pretty sure that the DHD came with divx (and all the other video files types u can get ur hands on) support out of the box, no need for 3rd party apps.
[Desire HD General] Black1982:
I tried 2 avi files with rockplayer and they had no issues, the 720p h264 mp4 file lagged significantly. Maybe a bit to much? Or should I try a different format?

It seemed that V player had trouble with the 720*300 avi mpeg4 file, but Rockplayer had no problems with it.
[Desire HD General] sanju007:
Self reboot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Lazy783rc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwYY3eghY6w

This is the desire but have the DHD this issus to ?
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
does it come with a virus scanner? Or is one necessary with Android? I've no idea.
[Desire HD General] onesolo:
Can anyone test a real usage of GPS and tell if there is any GPS lag??

Try using it in a car at least 50 km/h

Does anyone know if Mobilefun removes the VAT if it sells it for a company (with a valida registration VAT) from a country within EU, like expansys or handtec do??

Does anyone knows if both Handtec or Mobilefun send their items from UK Mainland?? I need to know this due to costums...

Any prices cheaper than Mobilefun or Handtec out there??
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
I'm buying from here...

http://www.belsimpel.nl/HTC/HTC-Desire-HD?utm_source=2001&utm_medium=1&cntd=1

506 euros. Really good, friendly service. Not sure when stock is due though, they said as soon as they get stock I will be on the first deliveries. Expect an email update in the morning (i emailed yesterday asking if stock has arrived).
[Desire HD General] craigspc:
Wow, it's 606.99 EUR from Amazon DE. 101 Euros difference!
[Desire HD General] onesolo:
Good for you, but they don't seem to ship outside NL....
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
I'm very sure they will ship outside of NL. I emailed them some questions and they responded instantly. Seem very accomodating. Just drop them an email, they'll respond in the morning I bet, and ask what the possibility is. I doubt they will have a problem if you pay the postage.

Unless they're not allowed to post internationally?? HTC may say they must sell in NL only. I know Amazon UK and Play.com wont post phones to me in NL either.
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
here u see the best deals in Holland...

http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/266181/htc-desire-hd-zwart.html
[Desire HD General] bobbyphoenix:
So I haven't seen any posts on screen toughness. I know the one that dropped messed up the phone. Is the screen gorilla glass? How good is it against scratches? I have an N1 now while I wait for my DHD, and I never used a screen protector, and it's as if I just took it out of the box for the first time. Not one scratch on it. Also has anyone noticed any dead pixels?
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
Greetings

Hey folks, I'm new here so thought I'd say hello. Ordered my Desire HD yesterday (Saturday) from Carphone warehouse, and picking it up from my local store tomorrow (Monday).

This will be my first Android phone as I'm moving from my iPhone 3G.

I'm a bit sick of Apple and their increasing lack of ethics.
[Desire HD General] Rittzy:
Did you buy yours sim free or on contract?
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
contract with orange £35/m, 800 mins, unlimited texts, unlimited internet (usual fair usage policy) free phone.
[Desire HD General] craigspc:
Don't think there will be many folks willing to test that one for you ;)
[Desire HD General] Rittzy:
Dont know how much carphoenwarehouse are doing them sim free? thanks
[Desire HD General] lukesky:
the Hero is right on top? wow! Never figured my Hero's screen to be particular good.. looking at this chart, i guess everything else is worser in terms of responsiveness...
[Desire HD General] bobbyphoenix:
Here is another good question I think. I know I'll find out when mine arrives, but it's listed to have Internal phone storage: 1.5 GB, and RAM: 768 MB. Can this be confirmed? I know when the G2 was released in the states it was said to have Internal phone storage: 4 GB, but really it has only 1.5 GB to use because the system takes up the other amount. I use "mini info" from the market on my N1, and even I don't get the claimed 512 RAM and 512 ROM because the system uses it's own amount. It would be nice if the manufactures actually listed the usable amount instead of total amount.
[Desire HD General] wineds:
No from the actual desire hd applicaiton "locations" which I can run on my HD2. I didn't end up buying it as it is overpriced I think!
[Desire HD General] psych0t1c:
So, whats the skiny?

Guys in NL got somewhat lucky tday.

Were the deliverd devices pre-order or shopwalk-in sales?

Any chance a germsn could take a ride and hit the nearest vodafone shop behinnd the border and then take one of those babies home? Or asre there policys in effect to prevent that?

Buying with no contract sould not be a problemö... any locals got plans, or is the entire distribution done by shiping as of now?
[Desire HD General] jiidaineko:
One question :

How is the battery life? Please tell me it is at least close to a day with medium usage
[Desire HD General] lazex:
Owners DHD!

You can do screenshots from screen DHD? If "yes", how?
[Desire HD General] mannyb:
It's only half the equation. The rest of the hardware needs to be able to keep up as well, and I think the Hero might fall short there, at least when compared to the Snapdragon and the Hummingbird beasts.
[Desire HD General] madindehead:
As far as I know, it has 1.5GB, but obviously some of it is taken up by Android itself and a few other bits. Hopefully, I will be able to confirm later on today.
[Desire HD General] strobe_uk:
Can early users please post if they have any of the purported proximity sensor issues (i.e. the handset getting locked on a blank screen when making a call)?

Thanks.
[Desire HD General] mirsalimov:
no problem
[Desire HD General] xazac:
As I previously asked, I want to know I want to know if the "adb shell - pm setInstallLocation 2" command from the Android SDK (to force installation on the SD memory) works with the Desire HD. And if it doesn't, I want to know if App2SD works.

Really thanks.
[Desire HD General] tranquility1997:
wow. my poor reading English,,,,,,, I cannot keep up with your posting speed....... crazy .......many thanks to you Clock........
[Desire HD General] Doktaphex:
Just had a call from carphone warehouse and my phone won't arrive till tomorrow now, apparently due to a SIM card issue. BOO :(
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Absolutely no problem here. The screen goes black when you hold the phone to your head en lights up again when you move it away.

BTW: it's not my phone that is broken (pfiew) :D It was from another guy in Holland.
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Unable to test it for you. Can you guide me through it with some more steps?
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
Yesterday I used it the whole day with quite intensive use (hey, it's a new shiny blinky phone ;)), and at the end of the day (14 hours of use) there was 15% left.

Note that my girlfriend found out about Angry Birds and played it for like 2 hours. And my friend liked the Appie (Albert Heijn Supermarket app) very much, so he used the barcode-scanner to add all the groceries in the house onto the groceries-list.
[Desire HD General] xazac:
You can read this good guide, it's very simple: http://bit.ly/9JPXWf
[Desire HD General] Clock1932:
As said earlier, I'm not willing to test that for you in an active way ;)

If you saw the pics of my old THD in the topic start you've seen I wasn't very nice to it. It is scratched and battered all over, so my plan was to use a screen protector for the DHD. Ofcourse there isn't one on the market, so now I'm just very gentle with it. But after a few days unprotected in my jeanspocket there's no scratch to be seen. Also it feels a lot firmer than THD due it's alu-body.