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[Hero CDMA General] Zardos66:
I just don't see why people love Sense so much. So much bloat. So much fail.

Sent from my bathroom, with toilet paper.
[Hero CDMA General] Kevets:
I prefer Sense. I've tried other ROMs but so far I've not seen enough improvement over stock to keep them.
[Hero CDMA General] shad0wfire:
I like both, I like options, it won't hurt u 2 have it available
[Hero CDMA General] jwhistler:
There are a couple of things I like (and now miss) about the Sense UI...

I do like the dialer...

I do like the pinch/zoom features and the Sense browser better than on my Froyo mod.

What I never liked was the obvious and painful effect it produced on the phone's responsiveness and, therefore, its usability.

I love my phone now: CM6, overclocked to 710Mhertz.

Personally, when I see a fast, zippy, responsive Hero with the Sense UI, then I'll believe it! :)
[Hero CDMA General] moxlon69:
The thing you have to remember (and I mean no offense by this), some people like fat girls, some people like skinny girls, some people like blondes, and some like redheads. Same with your phone, some people like Sense, and some people do not. I personally don't enjoy having to flash a sense based rom to update my PRL and such, just to flash back to an AOSP rom when done. As far as I'm concerned, I could care less if my phone had sense, but I haven't found a good way to update my PRL and profile under AOSP without it at least being on a sense rom. For me, I will probably always use a sense based rom just for that reason, but I am in no way using stock roms.
[Hero CDMA General] Zardos66:
It takes 10 minutes tops to flash back and fourth for radio and prl updates.

Sent from my bathroom, with toilet paper.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morjeff:
Nand unlock? I rooTed my phone this weekend using unprevoked 3. I was told afterwards that I should nand unlock. How do I do this after using unprevoked?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shauli20:
I'm pretty sure that rooting with Unrevoked 3.21 unlocks NAND as well. The older version of Unrevoked didn't do it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
This is correct. I just rooted my replacement Evo with 3.21 and it DOES unlock NAND.
[EVO 4G General] bender1077:
I have seen countless posts in response to a question that has been asked before to SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST!

BUT… Maybe some people are unsure about how to effectively search within a forum, or using the GOOGLE super search interwebz machine! I propose that we collectively share some great info and how-to’s on effective searching! I will update the OP periodically as additional info comes along.

There was only a short bit of info on searching these forums in the “How to use these forums-Please read thread” so why not some more?!

We all know that searching within a forum can be pretty much useless if done incorrectly, so here we go!

BASIC SEARCH TIPS –

- When performing a search – DO NOT just use the basic SEARCH THIS FORUM function! (SEE search1.jpg) This is pretty much useless and will give you a millions billions irrelevant results.

- ADVANCED SEARCH is your best friend – I find this is the best jumping off point for a search on XDA. Simply click ADVANCED SEARCH, your keyword(s), and choose SEARCH TITLES ONLY. This will filter out a TON of irrelevant info, and get right to the point! I used “setcpu” as an example. After this search, only threads WITH “setcpu” in the title will be shown. (SEE search2.jpg)

-GOOGLE is also a great way to search within XDA – Many people prefer to use GOOGLE to search within XDA anyway! Most of the time, you can just type “XDA keyword(s)” and you will likely return your desired results. Try typing “XDA root evo” and see what happens!

You can also perform a site specific search with the :site search function - ex) evo root site:xdaforums.com

(submitted by kamiller42)

-Performing a search within a thread is a great tool as well! Let's say you have just flashed a new ROM, but may be uncertain if a certain kernel is compatible.(See search3.jpg) EX) Just flashed Myn's Warm TPT, and want to see info on Netarchy's kernels for this ROM. When in the ROM thread click "Search Thread" and simply type your keyword (I used netarchy). Now every post that contains "netarchy" within the thread is shown. AWESOME!

Hope this helps a few, and if you have some good search tips POST EM!
[EVO 4G General] DraginMagik:
.... what he said....
[EVO 4G General] kamiller42:
If you are using Google, you can narrow the search to a specific site.

Ex: "evo root site:xdaforums.com"
[EVO 4G General] bender1077:
Thank you. Updated OP.
[EVO 4G General] Tilde88:
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[EVO 4G General] bender1077:
¿pɐɟ ɐpx ʍǝu ǝɥʇ sıɥʇ sı

Congrats on your unicode success
[EVO 4G General] J_Bone:
Having troubles Searching XDA from within Dolphin HD, on both my EVO and my Galaxy Tab.

When I press Search it brings up the text box, then when I click within it to type the box disappears and it throws my screen outta whack (zooms in a little).

Does it every time on the XDA webpage but other pages seem to be working fine.

This a Flash thing? It's up to date, AFAIK.

Hopefully just a clickable thingamabob that isn't clicked but I'm having no luck.

Thanks.
[Desire General] rsk99:
Is there any way to manually update my desire that I'm using on AT&T?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G General] PlankLongBeard:
Hey guys since this is General I had to do it. I just got back my Evo and I'm trying to root with Unrevoked, of course its not happening. Now, I have the latest software 3.29 and the latest basebands and etc..

Is there any other way to do so, such as with adb? I gave up the Epic cause theres hardly any development on it, but now I can't get back on this.. :(

Thanks for all the help in advance, it feels so good to have my HTC back in hand! :)

Sent From The Moon... :-)
[EVO 4G General] casual864:
I rooted with unrevoked and it works. I was also on the latest firmware.

Sent from the HTC Evo.
[EVO 4G General] PlankLongBeard:
Huh?

I tried from last night on.. I then went and applied the latest RUU to make sure everything was up to par and settled.. Went on to do Unrevoked 3.21 and I kept on getting the error " Backup CID Missing" I've seen many ppl have this issue, why I don't know.. :mad: On the IRC i saw this was reported as well.. All this is understood.. I just wanna know is there another way I can attack this from? Like the flash exploit or the use of adb? :confused:
[EVO 4G General] jerdog:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=765496

That should do it - the rage exploit works for me every time and you can put a new recovery on that will allow you to change the HBOOT and then also run unrevoked-forever.zip and then you're set.
[EVO 4G General] PlankLongBeard:
Thank You.. but.. Need More..!

I thank You so much.. :D Only issue is that I use a Mac, not a windows machine.. 3/4 of the tasks can be done thorugh ADB and the SDK via Terminal on the Mac but others cannot.. :mad:

Damn it, I'm not a noob lol but this sure as hell makes me feel like one.. :rolleyes: I've rooted over and over on multiple devices and now have this BS! :eek:

Keep bringing it in Guys I reall appreciate it.. As soon as I am rooted I will post Pics and a DAMN celebration video lol..

Thanks SO much.. :-)
[EVO 4G General] PlankLongBeard:
Thank You ALL!

Thank You .. Thank You..

The Rage method is def the way to go for a "raged" individual... :p

It helped so much, and the downgrade is no biggie.. just time consuming.. :)

Now, I finally got my Evo to be Free and Unlocked, again, for the third time with the third Evo.. I swear, I am gonna stop changing devices.. :rolleyes:

Thanks Again to all.. ;)
[EVO 4G General] jerdog:
Here's the MAC version of basically the same thing - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=769937

Glad you got rooted. I too am on a Mac.
[Vibrant General] stepinmyworld:
wow, have yall seen how smooth windows phone 7 is? the pinch to zoom , the great animations when going from app to app or screen to screen... apple pinch to zoom is better smooth and if you've seen windows phone 7, it seems like the manufacturer of the iphone gave the tips to windows phone seven manufacturers because pinch to zoom is almost identical in the browser. However, with ANDROID, it's not as nearly as smooth even without flash 10.1.. yall can't deny that and it's kind of annoying. Its with all android phones.. the only thing that comes close to iphone pinch to zoom is sense running on a fast processor but even then its still not as buttery. I wonder what you guys think. Will gingerbread address the lag with the browser?
[Vibrant General] jjones1983:
Why on Earth did you feel this belonged in the Vibrant general forum? The browser works just fine for me on all three Android phones I've owned, one of them not even being native Android (HD2). My Vibrant and EVO both ran/run beautifully smooth (after the lag fix on the Vibrant that is), in the browser and everywhere else where pinch to zoom was applicable...
[Vibrant General] techpreneur:
I think its ugly.
[Vibrant General] connnn:
I'm using bionix and I can't believe it's not butter.

Sent from my SGH-T959
[Vibrant General] jjones1983:
Plus this... That interface is just hideous to me. I understand that a lot of people will like it, and it will probably be rather successful, but it's just flat out obnoxious to me.
[Vibrant General] stepinmyworld:
I wish I could block you from my thread. I POSTED IT IN HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO. It's a general discussion, question, opinions... get lost. Don't ask me why I post it in here and then give your opinion on the subject. what's wrong with yall people.
[Vibrant General] stepinmyworld:
lol it's nice.. Im running it to but I don't even have the kernel overclocked and the phone is burning up!
[Vibrant General] metalfan78:
Why dont you get an iphone or windows phone then?

The cake is a lie!
[Vibrant General] s15274n:
Every thread you start you get in a fight with someone and yell how you have the right to post here.

This is the VIBRANT general section. Your post is about Android and WP7... not the Vibrant. Not only do I disagree with your sentiment, but you should not be posting this HERE.

Check out all of these threads you have started. This is absurd:

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[Vibrant General] jz9833:
Well I know I plan to get a HD7. I think it looks pretty cool and I love that they are trying to create a completely new UI. Lets face it people, Android at times seems just like iOS but with more options. WP& is breaking some fresh air into the mix.

And why can't we talking about reasons to or not to get a WP7 phone over our vibrants? Seems like a topic for a vibrant forum to me. Back on the N1 forum we had topics about the reasons to upgrade to a vibrant from an N1 threads. Yea we had some people go in their and wine, but not like this thread..... Hell we even had a thread mentioning the good things about the iPhone 4 when it was announced and people didnt have to go in there and start flame wars....

Seriously the self named mods who go in a thread and wine need to go back and hide in whatever corner they came from. Against your popular beliefs your posts 1) do not delete a thread 2) give a bump to a thread you disagree with. See the irony here?

And to get back to what the OP was saying, yes WP7 does appear to be smoother and more polished than android. It doesn't have all the features yet but I'm guessing by mid 2011 it will have every major feature android has.
[Vibrant General] intruda119:
Whenever someone cries about features like pinch to zoom or people who brag about how many homescreens they have. I automatically think NOOB. might be just me but why come to vibrant section to troll about wm7. I probably will get a wm7 phone because im a gadget junky.

Do you feel better after making this thread?

Sent from HTC HD2 w/ Android
[Vibrant General] oka1:
WP 7 LOL

Windows products are always full of issues. I have a HD 2 and Vibrant. The hd2 even customized is only 65% as good as the Vibrant stock. I tried the WP7 its cool but it not Android. So, If you want to be wow'd by the baubles Like "it has a great pinch to zoom" feature Then you have identified yourself as a retail user.. Great !!

go buy one the others who know how to make a phones' op "Sing" will continue on
[Vibrant General] richan90:
I'll have to agree with that. When I flick through homescreens, no matter what launcher I'm using, it doesn't even compare to my old ipod touch 2g, with its crappy 500mhz cpu. Same when I scroll through pages, etc. Apple just does a much better optimization of their OS in this way.
[Vibrant General] speoples20:
I'll keep my multitasking and copy & paste over a slightly better pinch n zoom. Some of the reviews I've been hearing about WP7 are bad. Like games taking 3 minutes to open and over slow 3rd party apps.
[Vibrant General] t1n0m3n:
UI hardware acceleration. It is coming, but not here yet. I can live with a bit of UI lag, so long as it is consistant. Although it will be nice when we do get hardware acceleration.
[Vibrant General] Erickomen27:
*Picks Up My Out-Dated Zune HD*

Dude Your Late, Now. GTFO!
[Vibrant General] Superfrag:
My G2 and Vibrant(after installing Bionix/Eugene's ROM and with Voodoo) both are butter smooth as my iPad and previously rented iPhone 4. G2 is butter smooth out of the box.
[Vibrant General] PaiPiePia:
As previous user have pointed out Apple uses hardware acceleration (GPU); so the UI seems more responsive. Since they build everything in house this optimization can be done much easier than say for Google to cater to different hardware by many manufacturers.

Now the bad new: UI hardware acceleration is in Gingerbread.
[Vibrant General] JoeSkeen:
I'm getting a Windows Phone 7 because the pinch to zoom is better.

In related news: I'm a total toolbag.
[Vibrant General] androidmonkey:
2 words. No multitasking.
[Vibrant General] jjones1983:
Haha. You're a ****. And it's kind of entertaining. Keep up the good work.
[Vibrant General] metalfan78:
This is entertaining...pointless...but entertaining. For yall of us

The cake is a lie!
[Vibrant General] ELStiko:
ur an idiot.
[Vibrant General] stepinmyworld:
Its a general discussion about the vibrant/android.. I have one right here! lol yall people are crazy with complaining... I've had android since the g1 has some out and have had almost every major smart phone you can name... nooob? Far from it. Have a good day
[Vibrant General] stepinmyworld:
thanks for that. and yes hopefully they do add the acceleration because when you have these phones side by side and compare, android's browser is always laggy and Im sure that can be better. I am an android Fanatic and people have been taking shots at me like I want a windows mobile device or iphone.. Android OS is a better system but can enhance the UI some.
[Vibrant General] hellcatrydr:
I can confirm this. Joe comes to all the Tools Anonymous meetings. Hey OP, wanna be a moderator?
[Vibrant General] trunkstar1:
Isn't that actually good news?
[Vibrant General] nearblack:
As pointless as this thread may be, I have to support the OP a little here.

If you disagree with the points he made: Do it. But nothing more.

Don't make it personal... c'mon, grow the **** up.

In reply to the OP, it is obvious that iOS and WP7 are smoother than android devices. iOS is made only for the hardware Apple makes, so it's always a perfect fit. Windows is making a lot of hardware restrictions for smartphone manufacturer to match their OS, making their devices fairly smooth as well. Android is extremely open, meaning there is a lot more functionality, however it is more rough around the edges. It all depends on whether you are willing to sacrifice the stability of your device for more features.
[Vibrant General] mobilebone:
If it ain't buttery enough for you then get an extra stick. You may use the leftovers for something else....
[Vibrant General] cthach11:
I like my avatar. I think it can be used many ways. Hold on, I think it fits this situation quite nicely.
[Vibrant General] MacGuy2006:
The idea of "open" Android is great, unfortunately the reality is different, as I have found out since I jumped on the bandwagon.

Because manufacturers and carriers can do almost anything they want with Android, they invariably lock the hell out of, delay updates, or End-Of-Life perfectly capable hardware, cutting off updates.

I jumped on Android so I can get Flash on my phone. And I am still waiting.

Gingerbread is supposed to be as smooth and as polished as iOS, but the Vibrant may never see an update. It also looks like with Gingerbread, Google plans to tighten the reigns on manufacturers, which at this point I see as a positive.

Of course, there is a great modding community here, but in reality, there is a similar community around the iPhone, even if I personally was never tempted by the extensive UI mods.

Unless Apple comes up with a 4"+ iPhone, I am likely to stick with Android for a while, but I just sold my international Galaxy S, and the Vibrant will likely be my last Samsung phone.
[Vibrant General] dbacchus:
Mods, please ban this idiot OP out of his misery...
[Vibrant General] PaiPiePia:
Android Fanboys are worse than iPhone Fanboys, and that speaks volumes. It takes a lot to top the ignorant attitude of Apple users but some android users take it to a whole new level of low.
[Vibrant General] tribalb:
Wow. Thats all I got to say in all this.
[Vibrant General] dbacchus:
@PaiPieP Do you even understand what most people are complaining about OP posting in the WRONG thread, and nothing else? Let the apple fanboys be, they are the dying breed anyway :-) But post your revelations in the appropriate thread (conveniently called Off-topic: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=IraQfhlMwi4&v=IraQfhlMwi4&gl=US )
[Vibrant General] ryan562:
Lmao.. look at these iPhone fanboys coming out the closet. Don't let the door hit u guys on the way out. Have fun with win7 and no longer being able to multitask.
[Vibrant General] ozy944:
To answer the OP's poorly placed question,

Iphone is much smoother when it comes to pinch zoom. But, I'll bet you cant do this in iphone:

- open engadget.com (no not the app and no not the mobile page) and try flicking to scroll rapidly down the page .... will not move very far and you will only see a big friggin ugly checkerboard pattern.

Why? Android renders the entire webpage whereas ios only does in and around where you are looking, making it easier to render.

- Try scrolling and then immediately pinch to zoom. Android will do it, the iphone, there be a very slight lag as you wait for it to re-load (remember it only renders a small area so you cant pinch zoom until you have something to zoom)

- Try pinch zoom on iphone and on android. If you look at the way android does it, its continously rendering. Iphone zooms in on what you were looking at (kinda like digital zoom).

Both are different approaches to UI interfacing. Pick the one you like and please stop all these ridiculous threads!!
[Vibrant General] kanwal236:
I agree to this,

my father has an iphone and i play with it a lot, got it jailbroken and everything, I just find that the pinch to zoom looks more enhanced in the iphone because of how the browser's edges zoom in and out as well, android is actually just as smooth, WP7 might be smoother but i can't say about that. It's really just an optical illusion in my opinion.

As for WP7 itself, if someone, maybe htc will do it with some super windows sense 7 or something, get rid of that shiity ass home screen. Sure i'd use that kind of home screen for maybe a week, but after that, the plainness of it would get on my nerves, as it would a lot of people, hell I find iPhone's screen more adverse than WP7, at least you have WALLPAPERS! That and multitasking, i'd be willing to give WP7 a try, maybe in a year or something (probably would just get the HD2 to be able to play with WP7 when i want and switch back to android on it).

Android on the other hand, OP, you obviously haven't looked in the themes section have you? have you seen some of the **** the Devs have come up with in there? WP7 looks more like the iPhone than android, you can change your home screen to be whatever you want, there's a whole bunch of theme'ing software, look it up! you might like some of the themes. That's also something WP7 desperately needs, some theme'ing capabilities for the home screen, but that goes hand in hand with what i said earlier.

Android is very volitile because of all the different hardware its available on, all of the WP7 devices run the same exact processor, easy to optimize for that processor, same with the iPhone. Android, if you've noticed is very optimized on snapdragons, the new Desire HD, was it called desire hd2? w/e is increadibly optimized, getting 58fps or something in neocore? because froyo has deep optimizations for snapdragons as well, even though the hummingbird is better in all ways, optimizations matter quite a bit. I'm hoping we get gingerbread and that we have true optimization for our processors on google's end, that way everything on our phones will be as smooth stock as you might find on other android phones.

Of course though, this is XDA, we got dev support, my vibrant is already quite smooth, even if i don't get the high scores (lag fixes are annoying to install/uninstall over and over), even without, my phone runs great. If your phone isn't running great, with the support of xda, you really have no excuse, it's your fault.
[Vibrant General] Wearespacepeople:
are you kidding me? WP7 looks like ass.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
No it doesn't, and the home screen is more usable than androids to boot... Always updating ur info. It feels alive. Certainly different and refreshing compared to app-centric approaches like android.

Which is hillarious, because with the way google rabes about the cloud and wen services you'd expect them to have somthing other than a wm6.5 clone with a linux kernel.
[Vibrant General] stepinmyworld:
smh, some evil folks in the world. I have to smile at yall. I am anxious for the new UI of android. For all of you flamers cussing me out, save your energy because I still love you.

I'm addicted to android OS and new technology period. Maybe we can skip 2.2 since it's taking so long and go right to gingerbread... I'm sure my vibrant meets the minimum requirements.

anywho, much love peeps
[Vibrant General] bdveteran18:
Ditto. I'm amazed of how smooth they have it running. Placebo or not, my Vibrant as is right now is just as smooth.

Featuring Sombionix 1.9.1 OC/UV, FFC installed
[Vibrant General] d_bot:
agreed!

Which way is the better way out of the two methods? That depends who you talk to.
[Vibrant General] bigragu:
People have different opinions. Surprise! That's what forums are about. No one's right and no one's wrong. BTW, the pinch to zoom on my Vibrant is great...and that's an indisputable fact.:D
[Vibrant General] ozy944:
Your Samsung Vibrant is rubbish ... . Im not right but I sure as hell am not wrong by your own admission , so there :p

jk

:p