yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 General] nrfitchett4:
really? And your link to verify this? (that the focus is outselling all the htc offerings)
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
I don't have a linkable source for this either, but have heard the same thing. The same guy told me Android were outselling iPhone (no shocker there really) and that they were moving WP7 devices as fast as they got them in stock (this is ATT though, so doesn't really take the HD7 into account).

I do agree with the previous poster though, HTC really isn't as good as some people make them out to be. That's the reason I personally went with Samsung (and LG for the wife) this time around. I love my HD2 and Evo, but if it wasn't for the 4.3" screen I'm not sure I would feel the same way - the cameras really don't work as well as one has become accustomed to from other phones, they continually botch up software releases/updates and I still question the build-quality of them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
this isn't a "number of sales", but a general survey done by WMPowerUser shows that Focus clearly outsells... http://wmpoweruser.com/goodbye-htc-samsung-now-clear-windows-phone-7-market-leader/
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
source http://wmpoweruser.com/goodbye-htc-samsung-now-clear-windows-phone-7-market-leader/
[Windows Phone 7 General] thesecondsfade:
I think it's viewed as just being on one side of a gray area until "fill in the blank" company (Microsoft, Swype, etc.) implicitly tells xda to cease and desist. Pirating? maybe... but is it pirating if a company knows about it and doesn't tell you to stop and/or that they don't want people doing it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] xda2_haseeb:
Wouldn't bother me if HTC lacks wp7 sales at the moment, htc is going to be back up within some time. if not wouldn't matter to me at all, htc is the biggest seller of Android and has been the biggest windows mobile seller. maybe it might take some time but its going to be back in the game. HTC is the best brand and the brand of my choice i would say when it comes to Smartphones or Pocket PCs :-)
[Windows Phone 7 General] microgeniusz80:
i agree with u... let see the next htc phone, it will be the best... just like hd2, when it first came out, there were no pda that can match its pride for few months.. even after that, there is no pda that exceded its capabilities.. htc will do it again, and that phone will be mine when it is released... thats the only reason im not buying a hd7 now...
[Windows Phone 7 General] ozkaya:
I think the reason why HTC is not selling well compared to Samsung at the moment is due to fact that they couldn't produce a marginally better phone than HD2. WP7 is sharing the same user base with Windows mobile and a lot of people with HD2's are waiting for a better phone than HD7 (which is just an HD2 with make-up) to upgrade.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
the problem with lots of people is that they only look at raw horse power .

example :

2 cars with 150 HP

car one 1200 KG

car two 600 KG

ofcourse is car two faster but they still have the same engine .

the most important thing of the new phones isn't the hardware but it is the software .
[Windows Phone 7 General] phrixus:
I know it's not really relevant to the discussion but this really reminds me of the Monty Python clip with the two cars, one powered by Fraudulin XD. Good analogy though. As far as I can see the only real reason to buy a brand other than HTC would be an AMOLED screen but since that is not sufficient reason to swap brand I'm gonna hang on to my HD2 till whatever the next generation brings after the HD7. I don't care much for live services but I quite like WP7 so my only hope is that if HTC have not unleashed a new device in the time it takes for Microsoft to patch WP7 to allow programmable sockets and the community to adapt that version to the HD2, then I might possibly consider getting a new phone. The HD2 is simply the best device I've had so far.
[Windows Phone 7 General] appatsekhar:
Thank you sir, I will do accordingly.
[Windows Phone 7 General] atomical007:
I will wait till the end of the world. waiting WP7 on my HD2. hehe.:D
[Windows Phone 7 General] ustudio:
thats why Im waiting, I was gung-ho to get a new wp7 phone especially thinking what it would have to be to surpass the htc hd2, cause that still is a good phone, so in my thinking the hd (next) would have to be a super phone in comparison, Im even tell people to wait as well
[Windows Phone 7 General] ustudio:
man I even do it with every thing I buy, my current computers are a macbook pro, and a HP desktop quad core, when I got the Quad I didn't get the best but I got the second best cause I know it would last me till upgrade time, Im gonna upgrade it soon that is get a new one, and its gonna be the sixcore, not the highest clock speed but the one next to the top, so that it to will last me till next upgrade time. How I determine this is by looking at what's out and what coming, etc. Same with the phones, 1 ghz is just about as standard as you can get right now, so I look at whats coming and I see 1.2ghz and higher coming, 5mp camera are just average, so I look and see what coming, from better flash some have xenon flashes to higher mp, sony has one coming that will have a 10.1 mp. The same with storage, etc. Then I make my decision to buy a phone, based on what out Im gonna have to wait till next year to get some thing thats above average.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gr4vity225:
I got a HD7 as an upgrade from my HD2

I love my HD7. I am only disappointed by the lack of remote desktop connection.

I still am looking forward to the HD2 with WP7 on it because i still have it as a backup.

Hopefully i'll have it all set up and ready for a near seamless transition for the day i break my HD7 (because it will inevitably happen).
[Windows Phone 7 General] metalicemo:
I think I'd much rather have WP7 on my HD2 than get the HD7.... What about you guys?
[Windows Phone 7 General] cloudpost:
not if wp7 on the hd2 cant do anything at all. No market, no zune, no skydrive. whats the point. On top of that its prob going to be buggy since its not native to the deviese like how android is on the hd2.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kondejm:
question

Hello.iam wondering to someone know when will be available to download wp7 for htc hd2?i just wanna try wp7 on my hd2,i dont need windows live,zune etc to test this system,i think to will be good without this unnecessary applications
[Windows Phone 7 General] cdguider:
Soon

November 23rd, Cotulla posted on twitter "Soon".

How soon, no one knows.

All we can do is wait, when it is released, be sure to check this thread and his twitter page (hopefully he will post the link on twitter also).

http://twitter.com/CotullaCode
[Windows Phone 7 General] akshay2000:
But if OS is working to even some extent, he should release the under development version. Though, services won't work, it will be helpful for us to decide whether to buy WP7 or not. It can give us the real feel of the OS!
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
there are still bug's in the magldr , and that has to be right because if it isn't perfect there will be allot of bricks (and when that happens his good name is also bricked) and that is the last that he want.
[Windows Phone 7 General] zarathustrax:
Even if he released wp7 for hd2, you wouldn't be able to do anything with it because you need magldr to boot it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] asadali:
but he should not have said soon... his fans r waiting n waiting for sooooooooon
[Windows Phone 7 General] hungry81:
Why dont you do it yourself then? There's no reason to be demanding. Hes doing it cause he wants too not cause he has to. Show support but dont act like its your his duty to give it to you.
[Windows Phone 7 General] asadali:
am not saying any thing wrong he say 6 months am here to wait...am not demanding anything.. read the post again
[Windows Phone 7 General] zarathustrax:
But for this kind of thing, soon could mean 4 months. These are not easy things these devs are doing. Be patient. If magldr is released within 2 months, I will consider that as soon. I don't expect it for at least another month or 2. If it comes sooner, it will be a pleasant surprise.
[Windows Phone 7 General] es0teric:
is there anyway to flash HTC HD7 WP7 to HD2?
[Windows Phone 7 General] joellinn:
not yet. we first need to wait for the magldr bootloader and then you can maybe flash it to nand, (if wp7 is available then)
[Windows Phone 7 General] blues01:
Yes there's a way but Cotulla still working on it. Be patient man.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Vlad Popov:
MAGLDR and NAND WP7 & Android as New Year or Christmas gift from Cotulla with love.
[Windows Phone 7 General] asadali:
ur source ?? or jus a guess?
[Windows Phone 7 General] venomhtchd2:
wp7 on hd2 for everyday use is all i want for christmass :D maybe for the coming year :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] xda2_haseeb:
From what i got to know is that... when HTC HD2 was/is manufactured they dont have a same type or NAND for all HD2s, HD2 are fitted with some different type of NANDs which differ with each other. Not all HD2s have different NAND but its like there are groups of HD2s with same NANDs. SPL supports all these types of NANDs but MAGLDR doesn't so support for all is being added :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Vlad Popov:
On russian PPC-site 4pda.ru famous user Football (you can see him profile on XDA-Devs too) wrote that MAGLDR and WP7 ROM will be at mid-December. This him post administration of 4pda.ru deleted cuz this post was at Disсussion Theme, but nowadays there is new section for WP7 devices in 4pda.ru.

Football 4pda.ru or XDA-Devs

You can contact him. May be he knows any fresh news.
[Windows Phone 7 General] username3d3:
I respect Cotulla and his project very much, but I mean three weeks after his last update on Twitter and that's it? I understand that development can be very time-consuming and tiring, but not even a hello world? I used to develop applications and skins for Mac OS X Emulation over at Aqua-Soft so I can understand how much time something like this can take, so I would never rush him. But, the least a developer can do is update people a bit more on the development. I mean especially something like this, I personally check this forum at least every two days, and nothing changes. All I'm saying is that I don't mind waiting for something like this, or even paying if he decided to charge (it's beats spending $200 for an upgrade, or $500 without the upgrade), but maybe more updates on how far along.
[Windows Phone 7 General] xda2_haseeb:
Yeah your right i guess :) he should provide some updates of whats done and whats being done to his community or fanbase so that all isnt a v.v.big mystery :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] kawgirlval69:
then again if he has a life outside the hacking, maybe he just wants to use the time he has to focus on the task at hand instead of wasting a few min of it updating something that will cause more questions and take up more of his time answering... might just be , if i dont speak then i dont get stupid questions then i dont have to answer till im done.... just my 2 cents worth..
[Windows Phone 7 General] orb3000:
High hopes

Hope latest rumors of having something new to hang on to arrives mid-dec!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] yousufshah:
huh.u gays,dont have home,or job,as u know he will release it later,and before that u created 70 pages,even its not released.only giving thoughts.if here is any friend of cotulla then u can ask him,or direct from cotulla.in my sight.the topic shuld be pause until he release it.it take over time.i check post and see new use less replies.then u should reply when u have news.stop cheap dissuasion
[Windows Phone 7 General] azuhl:
I presume you intended to say 'guys'? If not, that's a mighty sweeping generalization.
[Windows Phone 7 General] username3d3:
These type of people are priceless! Listen dude, nobody is rushing him, and for you to tell people you don't know that they don't have home or jobs is demeaning. Actually the truth is; your probably wondering when his next update is as well, but instead of saying what you want, you hide behind false posts. This thread is about the development status, so I think that were are here to talk about the development of the project. I respect what you have to say, but please don't act like your not drooling these threads hoping for an update too.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mtwaldman:
Sense on a ported WP7 Core?

I apologize if someone else has already brought this up, but is there anyway to get the underlying operating system working with either SPB Mobile shell or Sense running on it. This would update the library, drivers, etc. to the latest greatest but would allow us to Load apps (if WM6.5 apps would work on it) on our phones.

Since our hardware is mostly up to WP7 spec......

Would videos, music, etc. work better with the WP7 "Core" underlying our system?
[Windows Phone 7 General] xda2_haseeb:
Some one earlier said that Samsung was outselling HTC, will i couldn't believe it and here is the reason :p

Source: http://wmpoweruser.com/game-analytics-suggests-htc-the-top-wp7-oem/
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[Windows Phone 7 General] yousufshah:
hmmmmm!cotulla may be is an alien.he used word soon,it may be take months years or 100res.and people have hope only,waiting from 3 months.i waited only 1 month and later i got samsung omnia
[Windows Phone 7 General] asadali:
this is the reason y people r leaving him n getting newer devices... he should give simple update about release...
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
what does his immigration status have to do with anything?

"leaving him"?

does he work for HTC? I don't get it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] thesecondsfade:
LOL!

First time I've used that abbreviation in probably 10 years haha.
[Windows Phone 7 General] username3d3:
First try to understand that he doesn't have a gigantic corporation like Microsoft full of dedicated employees. After you process that, try to fathom the fact that indeed nothing is ever "simple". I understand that the word "soon" has different meaning to others; 1 month to me is 4 months to someone else, or vice-versa. But to go as far as to say someone is leaving him is a bit much, I don't get it either.
[Windows Phone 7 General] The Gate Keeper:
windows phone 7 is designed to share the same user experience between all devices, so no, spb and sense will not run in place of the start screen and app launcher. however, htc has made their own hub which brings some of the elements of sense (but very little to be honest). the reason for this is that windows mobile's main issue wasn't that the OS was bad, but all the third party modifications really slowed it down and caused most of the bugs that you see in its current form.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ustudio:
Aint no body leaving him, were like family on here, what the heck are you talking about. Im gonna get a new WP7 phone regardless of if I get WP7 for my HD2 or not. Im just waiting for the good phones, like a droid x but for WP7. The good stuff wont come out till next year the best now is the dell or the samsung and neither is better the the droid so Im gonna wait Im just hoping to play with it on my hd2 in the mean while, when its done. Besides its a gift from him, so who can really complain?
[Windows Phone 7 General] atomical007:
Waiting ...

1.We have to wait good news from devs.

2.We can't blame anyone because they do it for free.

3."Soon or long time" Only Cotulla and the devs involved in WP7 project will know.

4.We can't do anything beside Waiting for Christmas Day :D.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hitt:
haha . . yep totally agree . . cotulla is a star! . . and these people are crying because its taking time to get this working . . they are obviously too dumb to do anything themselves.

Stop complaining . . learn to do it yourself, or wait patiently.
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
cotulla 4 prezadent. Maybe he can port a decent economy...

But foreal though, there's so much Android awesomness going on with my HD2 that I can wait for WP7 however long it takes.

Ya'll just needs to relaxify, go out and have some fun in the real world for a minute.

It's all gravy baby, just calm your nerves, wait it out.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvlesz:
Maybe I'm the stupid but let me read that again.

So you bought a high-end Windows Phone 7 device so that you can downgrade it to WinMo 6.X.X ?

I don't get your point. explain please!
[Windows Phone 7 General] scottydoguk:
triple boot

Thanks to the devs the hd 2 can already triple boot. native winme6.5.5 + android and ubuntu the later two from sd. Dont know if its true that its a quad boot as it can boot win 95/98 not seen it though.

Magldr could boot different kernels (i think lol) would be handy for psfreedom to run with the latest builds instead of swapping sd cards. not sure if you could partiation a card to do so without it. A big cheer and thanks to the work already done.
[Windows Phone 7 General] yousufshah:
As well as MAGLDR development (used by Android & WP7) a bit delayed, because some problems takes more more more and more time

so only u can have hope
[Windows Phone 7 General] carl1961:
I installed PPC-ShiftPDA WP7S and it looked and ran great , I thought it was wp7 until I looked at the sofware info so this maybe the best alternitive to having the accual wd7 rom
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
Magldr not coming this year.

I don't think MAGLDR is coming this year :D

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/12/21/windows.for.arm.tipped.at.microsoft.ces.keynote/
[Windows Phone 7 General] asadali:
Coutella is back on linux irc chat... He is assembling a new desire rom for NAND .... Magldr is done he has flashed successfully his Leo .... It tells he is done with wp7 now left with android...
[Windows Phone 7 General] username3d3:
You can check the Irc logs, I was reading somewhere and he said it would be coming on the Russian Christmas, which is from the 31st to january 11th I believe. Hope I'm not mistaking. Can't wait if its true.

Check page 22

line 18:26

http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux&day=22
[Windows Phone 7 General] asadali:
R third party apps running well on ported wp7 on hd2?? Using chevron..
[Windows Phone 7 General] netdrg:
I think comming very soon

today in irclog

00:24	MN_	cotulla magldr going well?

00:24	XirXes	grats bzo

00:24	Cotulla	yeah

00:24	Cotulla	added autosize partitions support at middle

00:24	Cotulla	today

00:24	MN_	nice

00:25	MN_	android flasher working now

00:25	Cotulla	yeah

00:25	fakker	liar

00:25	Cotulla	WPH also flashed via "android flasher". so it's time to rename it I guess

00:25	Alex[sp3dev]	ok. htc camera library is incredible bull****

00:25	Cotulla	:D

00:25	MN_	magldr flasger maybe

00:26	MN_	*flasher

00:26	Cotulla	dunno

;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] zarathustrax:
Cotulla only stated that his Christmas was Jan 7... he was just conversing. He never makes release dates on his software... that's well known. If you try to read into his conversations thinking that there is a hint for release date, then this will probably be the 5th time it was suppose to be released in the last 3 months. He tells people right from the start to not ask for release date or eta... it will be done when its done.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marc_robinson:
Would flashing my hd2 with a hd7 rom screw it up?

I've found several sites with downloads for he latest hd7 rom, Would flashing my hd2 with a hd7 rom screw it up?

Marc
[Windows Phone 7 General] the_scotsman:
Yes, it would cause problems...you will permanently brick your phone. Please don't do it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hidden_hunter:
Magldr is a custom bootloader that will allow the HD2 to natively boot Android or Windows Phone 7
[Windows Phone 7 General] microgeniusz80:
WP7 is near

[9:04pm] <BazGee> also is it very close to release? or still weeks away ?

[9:05pm] <Cotulla> seems close... most things are working

[9:05pm] <Cotulla> we wants release it before new year

[9:06pm] <BazGee> so week or so

[9:06pm] <Cotulla> yeah 1 Jan

this is the news we waiting for.. million thanks to cotulla... hope we can donate as much as possible to him.. he did a lot of hard work for us.. cheers!!!

but eventough he said he will release it on 1 jan, it might be delayed if there is any error.. so we need to pray everything is goin well... and give him all the support..
[Windows Phone 7 General] mrkevinhall:
what if?

Im going to download it and see if I can use the code from someone elses phone to access it? Ill let you know...
[Windows Phone 7 General] cdguider:
Windows Phone 7 (MyPhone Service)

Credit:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/50d27b70-9cd3-4939-b919-33f859de7fca

The MyPhone service that is provided for WM6.x devices and the Windows Live Phone service that is provided for WP7 devices are not the same thing and do not provide the same level of service. There is no connectivity between these services either and no way to move data from the My Phone service to the Windows Live Phone service. Here is some clarification about these two services:

There is no way to download any of the data that is stored in My Phone to a WP7 device

There is no way to export any of the data that is stored in My Phone to Outlook or to the new Windows Live Phone service

The Windows Live Phone service does not back anything up....it seems to be more of a control panel that provides links to other services that are used by a WP7 device (for example, you'll see a link on the Windows Live Phone page to Contacts and another link to Appointments, but these are just links that take you to the Contacts and Calendar pages where you sync this data.)

The Windows Live Phone service does not backup text messages at...

•There is no way to backup text messages on a WP7 device at this time,

•There is no way to restore text messages that are backed up on a My Phone account to a WP7 device

The Windows Live Phone service does provide some services that are similar to My Phone's Premium services (such as Find my Lost Phone/ Lock my Phone / Wipe my Phone)

Prof JulieMVP, Moderator
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
I hope wp7 for hd2 must be near in these days......

00:41	kron	maybe, just left 3 days to the big day.:D
00:42	kron	i dont sleep more, until 1 JAN.

16:46	Cotulla	heh flashing 5mb/sec
16:46	fakker	i can run faster than that
16:47	Cotulla	looks like wm flashing.... whole rom 250 mb about 50 secs
16:47	fakker	did you try out the WP7 on your hd2 yet?
16:47	fakker	or just the other guys did
16:47	fakker	i wanna try it, but i've never seen a device with it on
16:48	Cotulla	I used it
16:48	fakker	how is the system? smooth? i know you said live services didn't function
16:48	Cotulla	but now again to and android to finish stuffs
16:48	fakker	in terms of ease of use
16:48	Cotulla	smooth
16:48	fakker	cool
16:48	Cotulla	ever new IE
16:48	Cotulla	zoom
16:49	fakker	it's nice?
16:49	Cotulla	yes with tabs. but seems max 6
16:49	fakker	better than a force close in android
16:49	fakker	which completely loses all open tabs
16:50	Cotulla	u can add any website to home
16:50	fakker	i remember seeing on your site, an image of a bare CE desktop
16:50	fakker	with no wp7 ui

Smooth WP7 in HD2 = Sweet!

Cr*p! And how much will cost in time ?

OMG I can't wait more days now! >_<
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
MAGLDR is now sent to a closed beta team :)

http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-hd2-about-to-get-direct-boot-android-wp7-to-follow
[Windows Phone 7 General] ceesheim:
lets read twitter :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10197493#post10197493
[Windows Phone 7 General] xda2_haseeb:
MAGLDR v1.10 is out!!!

Goto http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10197618&posted=1#post10197618

&

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=10197493#post10197493
[Windows Phone 7 General] lemonspeakers:
does anyone have a WP7 rom we can flash onto the hd2?

what happened to the posts where people were trying to crack the file?

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EDIT: what happened to all those wp7 leaked cotulla roms.

now that magldr is out, where can we find wp7 roms to flash? no way can be brick out phones now. =D
[Windows Phone 7 General] mally2:
MAGLDR is out , but this version does not support WM6.5 flashing or WP7 flashing...

so the wait continues