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[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
You didn't mention taking pictures as being all that important. So, 1 of it's 3 pluses, the LED, isn't worth as much as most of the Galaxy's pluses. If taking pictures is important to you, Galaxy S does have a fine camera according to Meryam tankgirl, featured on Engadget podcast and she has taken pictures with a few hundred phones over the years, I trust her on the subject, she's a nitpicker and frothing at the mouth at the idea of having the N8.

If taking pictures are important, maybe making video recordings are even more important. Galaxy S can take 720p video @ 30fps.

The other poster talked about video codecs, also Galaxy S has more audio codec support. You'll be able to play these over DLNA to your DLNA equiped HDTV/computer.

The Galaxy S has a better graphics chip for your gaming and video watching.

There are some hardware and software issues on the Galaxy (I don't experience them as much as some people here, so look to see how important the "issues are"), main problem is the GPS but plenty of people, myself included, report no real issues with GPS. You didn't list this as a priority.

I think you're missing more pluses on the Galaxy side of the equation, so hopefully this helps and hopefully you've posted this in the Desire forum too just in case they have some extra insight that you can't find here.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] RyanZA:
Size is a point of interest too:

Weight

HTC Desire: 135 g

Galaxy S: 118 g

Dimensions: height x width x depth

HTC Desire: 119 x 60 x 11.9 mm

Galaxy S: 122.4 x 64.2 x 9.9 mm
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
how about reading this original topic?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=737787&highlight=desire+sgs

why people needs to ask the same thing, over and over again?

just keep it all in 1 topic
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rdy2go:
It's not just specs. Galaxy is seriously flawed device. Wait for gps problem to be resolved.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
every device is flawed if you don't know what is involved, people that have no understanding of physic and technology should simply stick with iphones
[Galaxy S I9000 General] maestro6435:
I got both desire and SGS. No way in a million years can you compare a.phone that freezes every 15 seconds too a phone that works flawlessly. There is nothing my SGS can do that the desire can't. But loads the desire can do that the Sgs can't.

I'm on 2.2 officially can the sgs do that? No.

Full flash? No.

HTC sense ui?no, touch freak wizz. solid build ? No, plastic and light like a toy.

Don't mean to hate on a great potential phone, but that is all it is for now, potential. I really should know as I have both like I said.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rdy2go:
Lags, bugged kernel unable to utilize available memory, encrypted drivers making it hard to customize. And of course gps bug acknowled by Samsung.

HTC desire has its disadvantages too like speaker quality etc. but none that serious as Galaxy S has.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] RyanZA:
http://www.fandroid.org/2010/07/06/youtube-quake-2-htc-desire-vs-samsung-galaxy-s/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
That post is bordering on retardation.

Freezes? the Galaxy S never freezes. The original JF3 firmware has some lags when opening apps, but that's what other firmwares are for.

Official 2.2? of course the samsung "can't do that", since the release is in about a month. What kind of an idiotic argument is that?

ditto for full flash.

HTC Sense- Why the hell would a samsung phone come with HTC sense?

One thing that the SGS can do and the Desire can't?

Play N.O.V.A, lol.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TudorEm:
I am not interested at all in that GPS, as I, myself, don't drive. And sorry for repeating this thread, didn't know one was already up. Thanks alot for all the comments. Even though I've been obsessed with the Desire for 3 months now, I think I will go with the SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Srdjan1982:
I've had the same dilemma,recently.And also,i decided to go for SGS!

First of all,I think that all those problems(lags and gps) are overrated.It is all software related and can be easily fixed.

At the other hand,Desire is great phone,but its just inferior in hardware compared to SGS...and that can not be fixed.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] El Mono:
I had my eye on the HTC Desire too. I ended up with the Nexus One. I think it is a fine phone but I knew I would end up trying the Galaxy S. Since switching the Galaxy S I haven't looked back.

The SGS difinitely has its issues but it is a phenomonal phone. I didn't and still don't regret it. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

El Mono
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mithent:
Still skeptical about this.. I think "encrypted" has been confused with "compiled", as the only evidence I've seen of them being encrypted is that the binary modules they included with the source code weren't human-readable.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaju123:
The above pretty much summed up the whole thread. The sgs is best for media and doesn't freeze. A fix is on the way for gps if you follow samsungs twitter.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
lag fix can be done via mimocan

gps problem is not affecting every one, only a few individuals

just keep updating to newer firmwares and everything will be okay
[Galaxy S I9000 General] joplin48:
[Q] Samsung Galaxy S Captivate VS HTC Desire Media player?

I'm very interested in getting the the Samsung Galaxy S Capitvate.

I love everything about it especially all the various formats it plays including Flac.

I just want to have proof that the audio is really fantastic.

I'm planing on using Westone UM3x phones with it.

The HTC Desire is a nice phone also but don't know anything about the type of audio formats it plays and the quality of the sound.

I would prefer feedback from people that are into great audio and own either one of these phones ,Samsung Galaxy S Capitvate or HTC Desire.:confused:

Look forward to hearing from you:cool:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] NZtechfreak:
Already answered at Samsunggalaxysforums :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
captivate, the people say so, the reviewers say so, the specs say so...nuff said.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ogg1e:
What about the difference in the calendar applications?

HTC calendar integrates the gmail calendars with your exchange calendar to make it all nice and easy. Does this exist on the SGS?

This is something I need.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Roy Ngan:
Yes
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ogg1e:
Yes to what? The calendar widget?

Can someone compare it to the the htc calendar widget?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
out of the box SGS integrate with gmail calendar and emails.

as soon as you sign up for Market Place, you get connected to EVERYTHING google related
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ogg1e:
I get that part, but I was wondering how well does the SGS integrate the google calendar with an exchange calendar.

the HTC calendar integrates them all into one view so you don't need to view 2 separate calendars.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
here is your answer

http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=89955
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ogg1e:
Seriously? That's a horrible solution. SGS has no exchange support?

Guess I'll be getting a desire... At least till 2.2 or gingerbread is released.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
make up your mind... on your previous message you asked about Outlook, not Exchange.

Exchange and Outlook are 2 separate things.

If you ask if out of the box it can connect to an Exchange Server to download emails, then Yes, Calendar as well

but there are some minor limitations, if your exchange is using those super restricted mode, then i might not work

accepting calendar invites is not exactly working as desired.

there are 3rd party Exhange integration software (TouchDown) which does a better job
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ogg1e:
Make up my mind? Don't be so rude. Maybe you should read the messages I wrote and you'll notice I never once said outlook. And if you had read them properly, you wouldn't have had to reply more than once.

And again, I was hoping for an all in one solution that HTC provides. Touchdown does not have that as far as I can tell.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] RyanZA:
You can flash 2.2 onto SGS. It's a little buggy, but all the 2.2 features are there. Other than that, when it comes to exchange support it usually boils down to whether or not the phone supplier has shelled out huge amounts of money to Microsoft in order to get support. I personally find that horrible, and I will always go out of my way to not use exchange unless someone is holding a gun to my head.

If you really want to use the evil that is exchange, then you should hold on a bit for a windows 7 phone, which will be head and shoulders above everything else for exchange support. (Cause Microsoft has no problem being evil, and giving their pet platform a leg up any way it can.)

^^ Exchange rant! Haven't done one of those in awhile. ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ogg1e:
I don't want a winblows phone, and it's not my choice to use exchange either (my employer uses it and they just pay me a monthly amount for my cell phone). What HTC provides is sufficient for me on my Hero and would be the same on the Desire. I was just hoping the SGS has something similar.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
usually cell phone stores, has a 14 day to 30 day return exchange policy

you can simply try it out for 2 weeks and return it if you don't like the SGS

Google vs. Microsoft these 2 are mortal enemies, i highly doubt we'll see decent full Exchange integration out of the box.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Xyis:
[Q] Advice, keep desire or go galaxy?

I have got a new contract (bye bye touch pro), I ordered a galaxy but they sent me a desire.

Having played with it, i really enjoy the feel of it, but i like the sound of the hardware for the galaxy (although the complaints on here worry me slightly)

I was wondering though, and i have seen conflicting comments on this here.

If rooted can i go stock android on the galaxy, is this possible now or is it something that will need to be developed down the line?

Many thanks,

Xyis.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] steffe.jst:
Personally I really like my galaxy s. Its got a few problems but the available fixes are enough for me to overlook some dents. Then again this is my first android device and I'm generally not that picky.

Though if you really like the desire you may aswell stick to it. Unless, I guess, you're really into gaming on your phone. Chances are that you'll be disappointed with the galaxy cause you're used to the desire.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] stockfeed:
Have you had a play with a galaxy? that would be my first suggestion, dont just take our word for it, ive played with a desire, and going back to the desire's screen from my galaxy s' would be a nightmare for me. i dont seem to have many of the problems people are experiencing on here, but then again, this is a forum for people to tell their problems and get fixes, not to just say 'hey my phone works great, no problems............um... see ya'

ill bet the desire section would have a bunch of negative stuff on there too. its personal choice really, if you like the desire and it fills all your needs, then dont worry about getting a galaxy.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Xyis:
hmm, thanks. some good food for thought there.

I have played with a galaxy s very briefly in a phone shop and i did like it.

But i come from using windows mobile 6.2/6.5 for the last 2 years, anything on the latest phones is going to blow my mind. I guess when the galaxy comes i will give that a go and decide which one to send back (if they give me that option).

Is it possible to remove the samsung android and put stock android on it?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
Desire is a good phone, software wise, specially HTC Sense

but hardware wise, is way behind SGS

no matter how much software hack you install to the Desire, it wont be able to keep up with the SGS

specially if you have gaming and multimedia (mp3, video, bluetooth, web, youtube) in mind :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] stockfeed:
not yet.. but im sure people are working on it
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beowulf_pt:
1. Need working GPS and extras like notification LED, flash and no lag out of the box? - go Desire.

2. Want an amazing screen, better 720p video and excellent audio quality on 3.5mm jack and some 3D gaming that is still lame but less pathetic than in other phone toys? Go SGS (I'm sure you can go stock later)

I want both. So I'm screwed.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] plemen:
I hear you about the notification LED - and how about the dpad - not used to not having one. I haven't experienced the lag people keep mentioning.

All said and done, I wouldn't trade the SGS for any phone on the market.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] martinger:
Galaxy S - great working GPS (lock to 10sec everytime) + no lags. I already got 3 of them, none have mentioned problems.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
LauncherPro will allow the UI of stock + improvements, so in a sense, yes. However, it will be running "on top" of Touchwiz (samsung android).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beowulf_pt:
Besides just testing the time to first fix (which is quite meaningless) did you test its ability to lock over 8 satellites and strongly keep those locks? Tried to record paths with tools like My Tracks and see them on Google earth for accuracy?

Tried navigating in cities where there are complex paths and a lot of stop/start moments (traffic lights)?

If yes and it performs well, you have to tell us more about that unit.

Just a fast lock means nothing.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] oskretc:
I was forced to move from a HTC Desire to Galaxy (HTC Desire stolen, sold out then galaxy)

And my advice is,

If you dont bother changing things in your phone, flashing moding, reading a lot of forums downloading a lot of launchers, go Galaxy, you will have a hell of a phone.

But if you dont want to mess around with software and fw ans stuff, stick on HTC desire.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rocketpaul:
I just got my galaxy and im quite impressed but I have a slight bluish tint on the screen so the whites dont really appear as white as i would like. any one else got this prob?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] fluke:
No, replace that one;).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
agree, mine colours are great, when looking at white, i don't see any redish or blueish as some people mentioned on other topics
[Galaxy S I9000 General] speedweed:
I upgraded from HTC Desire to Samsung Galaxy-S, and im so happy i did it.

Go for it ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beowulf_pt:
You don't travel around much using your phone as a GPS do you? That's one of the rare cases when travelling actually makes a man less happy, a lot less happy...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AXIS of Reality:
Both phones have their pros and cons, with each having 1 particularly major / well documented issue.

DESIRE PROS:

+ Awesome build quality and materials

+ Sense UI

+ Tons of custom roms, including Froyo. Generally anything the Nexus One gets the Desire can get

DESIRE CONS:

- The most widely reported is the multi-touch. From the way the Desire and all previous HTC capacitive screens work it can detect the distance between 2 points fine for stuff like pinch-zoom, but it doesn't keep track of their proper locations well. Not good for gaming.

- Screen is very difficult to view in sunlight

- Not as good battery life reportedly

GALAXY S PROS:

+ Super AMOLED screen is jaw-droppingly gorgeous

+ CPU and especially GPU fly, making it ideal for gaming

+ Best media phone on the market with Xvid, DivX, MKV, FLV, FLAC, etc support so no video or audio conversion necessary. Also has comparable headphone sound quality to the iPhone 4 which is saying a lot with zero static or background buzz

+ 8/16gb built-in memory

GALAXY S CONS:

- Most widely known are the GPS issues with patchy connections making it a bad choice if you use GPS a lot. I don't use it for anything myself, so doesn't affect me luckily. The few times when I swtiched it on for Layar or google maps it worked fine for me outdoors though, but that may just be where I am.

- Not very large selection of custom roms, although tons of leaked firmwares

- Instances of lag, but there are several fixes available

- Build materials aren't as premium as the Desire

My friend got the Desire at the same time I got the Galaxy S, and honestly I'm very happy with my choice. The screen is drop-dead gorgeous and I like the larger size, as well as the hardware being able to handle even Gameloft's games flawlessly with no framerate issues and perfect multitouch. I also love all the media options and videos supported, as well as the big jump in audio quality from my HTC Hero to Galaxy S using Sennheiser CX870 earphones which is indistinguishable from my iPod Touch's sound quality.

The only things I really miss are Sense (I'm a Sense fan, but I know many aren't) and the Desire's great build quality that feels amazing to hold. I got one of the mesh cases for my Galaxy S (see Cases thread in the Accessories subforum) and that makes it much sexier however.

The good thing about this decision is you win either way with one of the top phones on the market that are really divided purely by what your needs are:

Sense & polish VS media & power
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beowulf_pt:
Great post AXIS, you did summarize the details well. There are a few minor aspects too but not very relevant (Like the Desire having notification LEDs and LED for flashlight and night shots).

I'm quite divided between both but really need a good GPS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kil:
Agree, AXIS's post sums it (almost) all up!

Especially the build quality some people seem to forget.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaketurbo:
Just got a galaxy S... HTC desire owner

I've now got a desire and a galaxy S... have been using many different 2.2 roms on my desire, including the fantastic cyanogen mod roms.

Is there anything similar to this available on the galaxy S? A good, stock 2.2 rom that runs at full speed?

Or is the best option to wait until samsung release 2.2 officially? Or if not, what's the best rooted 2.1 rom for the galaxy S at the moment?

Sorry if these questions have been asked before!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] fozzieb:
Hi, I have just switched from desire too.

There is nothing like asop rom yet, plus most 2.2 roms are based on unstable test versions from samsung.

I'm using modaco's latest test version and i works quite well, I recomend you try it out.

Cheers.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] RADLOUNI:
question

since you own both desire and galaxy S, I am hoping you would answer me these two questions

1- which one is more smooth and responsive in terms of user interface

2- does the desire show any lag

3- when you click an app icon on th desire, does this application open instantly or do you have to wait for sometime to get a response specially for big apps (for example Asphalt game on galaxy S sometimes take 5 seconds to show any response after i click the game icon)

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 General] fozzieb:
The desire feels faster opening apps, there is no lag at all on it, however i still like the galaxy s better, it just feels nicer to use (apart from the lag) the camera and video recording on the galaxy s are far better in my opinion.

I gave my desire to my wife, so i can continue to compare the two as we start to get more roms for the galaxy s.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jaketurbo:
It's true, the desire (especially when rooted with a good rom) is very smooth and fast. Apps open instantly unless a large app then black screen for a second then app opens.

I'm liking the galaxy S, my desire is the phone I use most for trying new roms, software also developing apps for.

If the rom scene improves with the galaxy, I can see that becoming my main phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] albinosilveira:
Greetings.

I Also have the Desire and the Galaxy s, as well as a Milestone and a Nexus One (2.2).

I agree that there is no lag at all with both HTCs and the Motorola (maybe a little in some apps on the Milestone)

The feel a lot faster in day-to-day use.

Even with the lag-fix, the Samsung still lags (and I don´t care what the Quadrant results say - mine is around 2100 - it is slower, feels slower and still LAGS!)

Anyway, the Samsung has a Wonderful screen...and despite its various shortcomings, we look at the screen everyday...

Maybe with the 2.2 update...

One more thing: all my cellphones are rooted. All have the Market Fix (since there is no access to paid apps in portugal). The Desire is running a 2.1 version (Official), The Motorola a 2.1update1 (Official), and the Nexus a 2.2 FR91.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cbuddy:
OK first of all i am using nexus one over 2 months and gett crazy about the BATTERY problem. Discharge sooo fast. So i begin to carry charger and bought a car charger for my car also while i am using my nexus one. SO begin to carry another phone (simple one like sony ericsson) cause of battery problem and carry sony to holiday with me not nexus one cause i fed up looking for somewhere to charge. Baterry whatever i do not last 1/2 days cause i am always online and receive my mails and answer them. Talk to phone alot. I am using now 2.2froyo cyanogen.latest ver 6.rc3 i guess. also kill all applications BUT because of i use alot, carry my charger and in the meetings, in the room my phone always on the charge..

My friend bought I9000 Galaxy S. I barrowed from him for a week to use it and give my nexus one instead.Thank God. Phone lasts and last till midnight without charging. Works FASTER than my nexus and screen....Its increadble cause eeven in sunlight i can read my mails but with nexus one never did it...

So i decided to SELL my nexus one and buy I9000S...At least i expect that phone battery can last a day. With a nexus one??? its almost impossbile if you use it. If you are not using it WHY are you buying?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] srkonus:
I am standing here with the same question. I will use the phone to navigate my car - how bad is the gps problem really?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bajica:
My gps works fine since I flashed any firmware after stock, its on JM5 and no problems with gps
[Vibrant General] spiz516:
After installing UVJI6 (I received it OTA), I am unable to see some apps from the market, in particular, ones that I use frequently. Is there a way to fix this or has someone found some sort of documentation from Samsung/TMobile on this?

Thanks!
[Vibrant General] Zylograth:
This has been addressed, please learn to use search kthx
[Vibrant General] tgerbracht:
Yes, I've seen others report this though I don't recall seeing a fix. I'm still a little annoyed at how long the swipe needs to be now to unlock the screen. :)
[Vibrant General] spiz516:
I did search and didn't see it. Would you mind sharing the link if you've seen it?
[Vibrant General] kmfisher:
The answer is easy: Google/Samsung haven't authorized the latest updates Market yet. When they authorize it the missing applications will show up. You will have the same missing apps if you go through Kies, OTA, or Odin. You can put a hack in place to get around it but I would not recommend it. The hack causes your market to identify itself as JFD instead of JI6. In theory that could cause missing new apps in the future.
[Vibrant General] ShinyBuddha:
Have you tried the Android 2.2 style Market app on Vibrant?
[Vibrant General] ScratchSF:
@spiz516, I also had the same problem after using ODIN to perform my update (following a failed OTA push). I like kmfisher's answer. But if you absolutely can't wait, and you are rooted, here's how you can do it:

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=804763

See post #24.

After I performed this fix, I was able to see a few missing applications. However, I also noticed that this also brought back a horrible Market application lag. So, I will probably send it back since I've downloaded the two applications I needed that were market locked.

Good Luck!
[Vibrant General] spiz516:
Awesome, thank you for the response. Much appreciated!
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Clear Cache too. I don't have any worse lag, this has nothing to do with anything that would break something like market speed besides old cache maybe.