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[XPERIA X10 General] vengeance1990:
Okay when i originally debranded my phone i flashed it about 6 times, now i told a mate, to which he replied "be careful because phones can only handle so much before the phone will break". Now obviously there must be some sort of limit, but what sorta number am i looking at?

Thanks

Vengeance:confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] SXUsr:
lol, "6", I've done that in a day, a few times, not sure, never even entered my mind in fact that there might be a limit.
[XPERIA X10 General] beno1:
theoretically, there is a limit on how often a memory module can be flashed. but it's somewhere around a few thousand times, if not more.... definately nowhere near 6 :D
[XPERIA X10 General] Mano1982:
I've done more than 6 times in a day when we got 1st root & it was kinda difficult to root :p
[XPERIA X10 General] alankstiyo:
let him try, then he will say oh the flashing limit is a gazillion times
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] x2z2001:
So, What are the possibilities of getting WebOs on our HD2s? just a question cuz i cant beleive how amazing our phone is...i mean WM7, WM6.5, Android, Ubuntu what else can it run??? hehehe
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] antaed:
I would also love to see that happening but I think the chances are pretty slim, at least not anytime soon. The main obstacle is the different hardware (HD2 vs. Palm Pre) and then there is also the lack of interest. We live the Android fever now and WP7 is already at the door...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mr_billionaire:
the HD2 can run WebOS, but if i'm wrong i do not think that WOS is open source, so we can't try it.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] justwonder:
It's not about open source or not, it's about hardware differences, lack of interest....like the poster said above.

WP7 is not open source.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Tachi91:
i was thinking of this as well... But it very unlikely to happen since Drivers would need to be created for WOS, and like its been said Everybody is waiting on Android NAND and as well as WP7...

Maybe once this is all done then maybe if the right people see an interest in it then prob
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fakepooh:
I wonder why folks in palm and hp never thought of that,the main reason palm is dying is simply because of their ugly HW design.

Hd2 with palm os will be one of the killer hp
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] polo735:
A Meego port will be more likely. Meego is an os being developed by nokia and intel. It will be designed to have multiple versions including netbook or handheld. It will be used on lots of different hardware. The devs who ported android have already mentioned meego as well.
[Vibrant General] androidmonkey:
Since I received the OTA update, WatchDog has notified me several times that the Gallery is a CPU hog, using 78-80% resources. I have to kill it to stop.

Anyone else have this issue?

Things that I have done to try and fix the problem:

- Blank removable card , still have the same issues.

- I did a complete wipe/factory reset and still have the same issues.

- I cleared data through System Settings which recreated thumbnails and other data, still have the same issues.
[Vibrant General] Deleted member 2653512:
i hope this doesn't start a debate but...lol...

i just run advanced task killer and i add my core apps to the ignore list. then i change the atk's settings so it kills everything else everytime the screen goes off. kill interval i set to 'crazy'. works for me. :)
[Vibrant General] androidmonkey:
BUMP

Nobody else is having this issue? I just received the message again, multiple times I day, but this time I havent even used the Gallery since I rebooted my phone.
[Vibrant General] kangxi:
No, I'm not having this issue at all. And luckyduck, you really shouldn't use task killers especially with those settings. Use Auto Killer instead. It used Android's built-in memory management system and tweaks it.
[Vibrant General] Zylograth:
I had this happen when it did it's first media scan but only the first time after first boot from JI6
[Vibrant General] blink55184:
Havent checked CPU usage, but my Gallery is buggy since the update.

Alot of times, when in Messaging App, selecting Attach, then Pictures, freezes. It will show me the Gallery background with no folder/photo options.

This happens sometimes when opening the gallery itself as well. I will see the reflective gallery background without any photos.
[Vibrant General] crtsj:
My gallery always lags upon opening n sometimes freezes... So i know what u mean...
[Vibrant General] androidmonkey:
Yep, I get the reflective background about every 3rd time I open the Gallery.

Anyone know a good alternative?
[Vibrant General] ohmyggg:
I've had the same exact issue as you.

Starting when the update came through, after every reboot, Watchdog notifies me that Gallery is hogging anywhere from 40-60% CPU. It behaves this way for a few minutes and then goes back down to normal CPU usage.

Not sure what it's doing after we reboot but it never did this before JI6.
[Vibrant General] jalsing:
Just to add I've also had this. Only apparent resolution is to return to home screen and try again. Usually works the second time..
[Vibrant General] EpicSurge:
happened to me aswell
[Vibrant General] mainevent3405:
As is mine. Sometimes it just freezes all together and I have to take out the battery. This is since J16 update. I am hoping to find a new pic viewer because this is crazy! :mad::mad::mad:
[Vibrant General] GenTsoChkn:
I've been having the issue also, but I've been able to recover out of it to avoid taking the battery out. Just takes a few seconds to get out of the gallery and close the gallery app. Usually works after that.
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
This happens to me also. Every time I reboot and go to Gallery for the first time it freezes, a few times it locked up my phone like an old PC Windows OS. It just froze. Reboot is the only way back.

This must have something to with building its initial cache? Just thinking because its on the first start after boot. Wonder if its a bug in writing the initial cache. The Gallery is based on a program called Cool Iris, the web version uses rss feeds to display the effect. I have worked on web sites with this code. I have yet to find the code in the galaxy and am not yet familiar with the stand alone program. Its all packaged up in one big app.

Be nice to have a fix for the fix.....

This happened before I installed OCLF 2. and after installation OCLF on JI6 official via ODIN, Accurate battery mod and Mobile AP mod.

Edit 1: I just started Gallery for a test and it locked up on "loading image". This time i just let it sit. It stayed frozen for 7 minutes then the screen went blank. After that without touching it, the phone rebooted itself and started back up. I'd say this is no small bug. Crud.

Edit 2: If I can get to open once without a crash, I can open and close it a few times and it gets faster. If I leave alone and do not open it for a view hours it starts slow again but does not crash. Talk about lag! Its like 30 seconds to load. Yuck, not a good bug fix if it causes new bugs...
[Vibrant General] shevys:
Well, I feel better knowing I'm not the only one with this issue. It's really frustrating to want to show off pictures only to have to wait five minutes to cycle through the rebooting process. What a drag.
[Vibrant General] ohmyggg:
I would just like to add that another thing I noticed after the update is that sometimes when I snap a picture and switch over to the gallery to view it, the gallery won't even show the most recently snapped photo. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't, but when it doesn't show, I back out of the gallery and go back in one or two times for it to show up.
[Vibrant General] ShinyBuddha:
I just noticed this today too. Was working fine before. I did note in the JI6 update that there was a Kernel revision...I wonder if it was for the gallery "Kernel: 3D library patch"

~SB
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
I wish we had a change log that was better then what was officially sent out; "... plus forty or more bug fixes..." that tells me zero. I can get more from a solo app writing Dev, that just did an upgrade to for his app. Anyone know of a decent change log?

I have not seen these issues widely reported either, anyone else?

As far the Gallery being a resource hog are you guys saying more than before the update? Because just the nature of the app, I would assume it would be just by it bells and whistles. The reason I ask is sometimes when an app is troubled or needs a fix they "fix" it just by giving it more priority to tap resources.

I'm just guessing here... my Gallery worked perfect before the update. As the Gallery goes, I don't even know what the original Ji6 fix was for. Shrug*~

Still a great phone. But I used to love to show off the gallery, I'm photographer and I have some final prints loaded. It was a great marketing tool to get my work in shops and galleries. The Galaxy S. Tab will be my walking portfolio, 'can't wait.
[Vibrant General] itsLYNDZ:
I'm having the same problem
[Vibrant General] crtsj:
This must be fixed. Im starting to hate this damn phone...
[Vibrant General] androidmonkey:
I agree. Its like, WTF? My main issue pre-update was GPS, everything else was just fine. Now Gallery is hosed. It was embarrassing tonight trying to show some pictures to friends, especially the one who raves about his iPhone 4. I opened Gallery up and it froze. I had to reboot the phone!!!
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
I'm thinking of starting a new thread to get the word out. This is not just a "cpu hog" it down right locks up the phone, sometimes even restarting its self. This has got to stop. If I start a new thread will you guys back me up and post your problems too?

I was thinking of posting ion the vibrant/questions and answers section. Maybe we can get this fixed. Somebody has to have a fix out there. I really think it has to do with clearing the correct cashes and data, from the old build.

Let me do a little more research. If I can't find a fix, I'll put up a new post about the lockups and crashes. Crazy we are not seeing several threads on this.
[Vibrant General] androidmonkey:
Here is another thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=812505

I cleared the data for the Media Manager/Scanner, seems to help but the Gallery still is flagged as a cpu hog by Watchdog from time to time.
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
Yup we have two issues that effect our phone, CPU hog and start up load delays and freezes if not complete device freezes and shut downs.

I sympathize with the CPU issues but knowing the Cool Iris code for web. I am surprised they were even able to make it work at all. And when it does its very cool. I would expect it to be one of the biggest hogs on the OS system. Often when a phone manufacturer development team wants to tune something up they tweak the system OS to allocate more resources to a program and call it good. A simple and short fix that has there bosses crossing off the problem from their list they never understood in the first place off the list.

I can long hold on the home button and kill any app now with the update so I am not to concerned unless it effects overall performance, over all if it does not effect performance for me, sorry but I'm not concerned with an alert from a third party app that pops up and tells me something unless it really has a notifiable effect on memory and CPU usage that translates into poor phone performance.

For me the locking and freezing, and complete shut down and reboot of a smart phone with the Gallery is huge.

However this is common with upgrades and one of the most common solutions is deleting the original data and cashes from the old firmware to jive with the new firmware. There are two problems with this; first Samsung's upgrade should do this, with out question. But hey smart phones are complex and well, they missed it. Second we need to find all the caches and data that need s to be cleared, to make Gallery work like the very cool app it was.

I few have chimed in with good ideas and places to clear data, yet I still have the same problem after reboot.

Ideas?

Anyone?
[Vibrant General] blink55184:
Manage applications, gallery, clear data, REBOOT.

Hasn't lagged for me yet when opening it normally or when attaching to mms.

Cpu is another story.
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
Tried several times, doesn't work for me. Alwasy comes back.
[Vibrant General] TEE82:
I flashed the Bionix Fusion rom (really awesome so far) last night and no more probs w/the gallery app. I was on stock rom rom w/JI6 prior.

Sent via $amsung V¡brant
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
Don't want to go off topic here, because I see this as a possible way to fix the Gallery issue, but I have been drooling over Bionix since I've read all the positive feed back. How'd it go?

Do you use Rom manager to flash it?

Titanium to get your apps back on?

What about mail, sms, and mms backups? Needed?

Any other data lost or needs back up? I can move photos easy enough.

I have flash many a mod in my day but never a rom, I'm ready to take the plunge. Also can you flash back to stock easy enough so I can get Froyo if I even want it by then.....

Thanks in advance. PM me if you feel the need, but others might want this info all in one place? off topic?
[Vibrant General] julez456:
I have the same problem..not so much after a reboot (it happens but not as often). Mine usually starts acting up after I take a picture and go to the gallery to try and view it. I have an app that I downloaded from the Market that seems to help somewhat. It's called SDrescan. After I take a picture, if I want to view it I open SDrescan first, let it run the scan on my SD (it also scans the internal memory) then I can usually open the Gallery without any problems (95% of the time). It is a temporary fix for me until we can get an official fix from Samsung and T-Mobile. Let me know if this helps anyone else. :)
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
I'm serious, I set the Overclock Widget to 400-1000MHz and I have no problems with the Gallery anymore. AT ALL.
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
Why is this "serious" becouse it seriously drains your battery life? I Kid, I kid.

What about the CPU hog issue? Not a biggie to me but it is the thread topic.
[Vibrant General] TEE82:
You should def give it a try...you won't regret it; just don't forget to root first. The Bionix Fusion rom, like I've said before, is just awesome...extremely fast and stable. It's actually my first custom rom for my vibrant (been a notorious flasher for my old phone) and I'm sticking w/this one until Team Whiskey tricks out another custom rom w/Froyo so you don't have to worry about reflashing back to stock to get it. And besides, once you go custom, "stock" will just be a distant memory :D

1. Yea, just follow the instructions; it's super easy and takes less than 10 mins (if I remember correctly).

2. No, unfortunately I didn't because I didn't have too much apps to begin with but I hear Titanium works pretty well. Being new to android, I didn't mind browsing for apps in the market again at all.

3. SMS Backup & restore app--works like a charm. Gmail and email syncs and gathers old emails w/no probs once it's set up again. I didn't have any mms but there's a few back up apps for that.

4. The Avatar movie shortcut icon is missing but since it's saved on the external sd card, you'll still have it. The Sims game is gone though.

Back on topic--w/this rom, no lags or needing to reboot when viewing the gallery at all !!! :cool:
[Vibrant General] rogerchew:
seriously this is the most annoying thing ever! sometimes it'll load up, sometimes it'll lock up and reset itself, then sometimes it'll lock up and i need to pull battery. I cant' imagine there aren't more people having this issue!
[Vibrant General] vuvsion:
I'm having the same problem & my wife's Vibrant as well. Not very happy with Samsung's product at the moment. It'll be hard press for me to buy another Sammy product in the future.
[Vibrant General] rogerchew:
one thing i want to note is that my pics were all on the external SD card. I just moved them to the internal 13? 16gb? and i've been randomly opening gallery to see if it still crashes or freezes. hasn't frozen up once yet. will continue to test this, i'm really hoping the issue is with reading the external card... :( at least then we have a workaround.

Update:

been a day running with it on the internal and haven't locked up yet...*knock on wood
[Vibrant General] briguydj32:
Glad i'm not the only one with this issue!
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
Called T-Moble about it yesterday, I was fed up with the Phone. Don't get me wrong, the phone is amazing. But I need some simple secondary functions to work and they should work. Period.

1. Galley freezes phone to point of lock-up and crash

2. links from mail are broken by symbols such as; = & etc.

3. Market hangs on upgrades and downloads.

They ran through their boiler plate of ridiculous attempts to fix it. I could tell the tech was looking up answers as we went and was not familiar with my phone. Then it came down, of course to the end all to be all, the "master reset". Kind of like when a medical team doesn't know whats wrong so they through steroids (Pednizone) at you.

Of course I had tried all of the T-Mobile tech methods and more, way more. So they came down to their next step, a replacement because my phone is defective. Not bad, I don't want a new phone but thats not a bad policy. At&t wold never do that for me. I volunteered that the screen is cracked slightly way off in the corner about a .5 inch long and only about .25 inches away from the bezel. The word bezel through her into a tailspin. Anyway, since I have a damaged phone I get no replacement. No deal. i have a broken phone and i am stuck with it end of story.

Nice.

Anyone come up with a Gallery fix yet that works for freezing and locking on JI6? I have tried all in this thread and the one other thread, I have found. Sheesh!

Don
[Vibrant General] julez456:
Nope. I've never saved my pictures to my external. They have been saved on my internal since day 1 and I too am having the issue with the Gallery freezing up. Its really annoying. :mad:
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
Me too and besides the largest file the Gallery sees is probably Avatar on the external SDcard and we all know comes stock with the vibrant. I moved off and on and changed cards, still it hangs and freezes till it reboots my phone.
[Vibrant General] androidmonkey:
I started this thread right after I received the JI6 update. I still have issues even after doing 1.) Moving everything off internal memory and 2.) Doing a factory reset. I then moved certain things back to the internal memory like videos, pictures, and music. First thing I noticed was the Media Scanner was very slow, seemed normal since that was the first time scanning all of the new items. Gallery opened up in decent time, but lagged a bit. I started installing various applications. As the days went on I noticed Gallery being the "Hog" again according to WatchDog. What I find odd is this happens even when I dont open Gallery after a reboot.

So, WTH hell happen with this update. I had 0 issues with Gallery pre-update, Im sure this is true for most people. I was impressed on how fast Gallery was pre-update. Now I cringe when I want to show somebody and image on my phone. Tried doing this the other day and it locked up again, I had to hold the power button to reset. Sheesh...

P.S. Please dont say "root and install Bionix, it rocks". I rooted my G1 and installed ROMS left and right. Its fun for awhile but gets old, buggy, etc. I just want a phone that works and doesnt need tweaking. Hear that Samsung. Never again Samsung, never again....
[Vibrant General] crtsj:


100% agreeeeeeed
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
Agreed: This phone should just work as advertised.

gps

gallery

compass

links in email

syncs with calendars /tasks/contacts my crappy iPhone could do that flawlessly WTCrud?

bad modem ok battery/ strong modem bad battery

promised update delays over and over

maps

Market download freezes.

thats just a short list from 3 months I have paid to own it.

What the crap?

pS Avatar plays nice. WHEN I can get the dang nab stinkin Gallery to not crash my phone!!!

Custom ROMs are cool put for a select few..... I agree I want a phone that works. OP change the title of your thread it is too soft, hog? yes, but this Gallery thing crashes the phone too.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
Market Downloads freezing have NOTHING to do with the phone

Nothing is wrong with the JI6 modem, verified by myself deleting MediaHub and it's related services.

Compass is fine for most of us, I calibrate it and my compass works fine.

Links in Email?????? Could you be anymore general

The only promised update was delayed by about a week (some of you are unaware that we have never been promised a FroYo update)

If you want to play Avatar, you have the Video Player app and a host of file managers that don't use the gallery. The Gallery is an obvious bug along with the battery drain, GPS accuracy could be improved and there is apparently some issue with Exchange. Thankfully the only one that bothers me is the Gallery because my GPS works fine, compass is fine, battery drain is fine, I can open videos via Video Player, Market downloads don't cause me any issues.. it's a shocker.

Maps?

Paps..

Sync? Really.. something explaining the issue could be super helpful.
[Vibrant General] julez456:
Tell us how you really feel.. :D
[Vibrant General] atatistcheff:
So I contacted Tmobile to add my two cents to the others who have called on this issue. With any luck (a lot of luck) they will see this is a problem and put this on the list of bugs for the next update. Ya and the moon is made of cheese... Still, I'm hoping.

Here's the support transcript:

^Brittany T: Hi Alex , welcome to T-Mobile live Chat. I’m ^Brittany and I will be happy to assist you. Please give me a moment to review your question.

^Brittany T: Alex, I understand that you are having an issue with your gallery application, what is going on with it?

Alex T: Ever since the latest OTA update the Gallery application freezes the phone about 1 out of 3 times I use it. I've checked some of the forums and this seems to be a common problem on all Vibrants following the update. In fact, I haven't seen any replies to the threads on this topic from users who say they don't have this problem. I just want to make sure that Tmobile is aware of it as it makes the Gallery app unusable. You have to reset the phone when it hangs in this manner.

^Brittany T: Okay. Have you attempted to master reset the device?

Alex T: I have not, I know that's your stock answer to pretty much any issue and again from the forum postings it's clear that this will not solve the issue. It's a bug in the update. I do not expect you to be able to help me with this as there is no fix at this point. My purpose is to make sure that this bug has been logged somewhere and will be included in a future OTA update (preferably sooner rather than later)

^Brittany T: I can definitely escalate this issue to my supervisor for you all.

Alex T: That would be fine, again I don't think there is a fix as of yet but it would be very nice to know it's at least a known issue and is on somebody's list to fix.

^Brittany T: Yes, I can definitely do that for you.

4 minute pause while Brittany gets a latte (just kidding)

^Brittany T: I have escalated this issue.

^Brittany T: Is there anything else we can assist you with today?

Alex T: No that should do it - thank you.

^Brittany T: Thank you for contacting T-Mobile Chat, have a great day!​
[Vibrant General] 12paq:
Heygrl was having some confusion so I was very clear. And don't ask again! That was heygrls mistake. ;-)

He kinda was snobby about my opinions. But that is OK, for me anyway.