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[Windows Phone 7 General] jaidedfocus:
This is awesome! Even if it never reaches my HD2, these guys do some amazing work. After the WinMo 6.5 issues I've had I'm reluctant to try WP7, you gotta give it to these guys for the dedication and hard work and BRAINS that goes in to making these things happen.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Joker2206:
I don't see a reason why this one should be fake.

Android can boot on iPhone, so why wouldn't HD2 from WM6.5 switch to WP7 ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] nilsk123:
I've got good reasons to believe this is actually mplayer playing a video of WP7 emulator, mark my words. This actualy doesnt make Cotulla a liar, since he never claimed to have succeded in booting wp7 on the HD2. All he said was he had a litle surprise or something. The surprise is mplayer. I guess you can boot it straight from magldr, so just like the included tetris game, an easter egg of some sort.
[Windows Phone 7 General] zarathustrax:
I don't thinks so. Da_g said he gave cotulla all the work on wp7 he's done so far, and that cotulla is definitely working on porting it. And cotulla got winCE7 booted on the hd2 a month ago, so it makes sense that this would be legitimate. Cotulla is not the type to imply something like this and get peoples hopes up if its not real.

What are your "good reasons" to think its player? Back up what you're saying if you really has reason to think that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Tom Servo:
I just checked, even the emulator starts with the phone tile saying "Phone" first, then going through the sequence of "No service", "Searching...", "Home service" and then "Fake GSM Network" with short pauses between each other.

If that HD2 stuff was based on the emulator image, it would show the same behavior. If it was based on a real image, like the leaked ones, you'd simply expect "No service" or something, since I doubt they'd come with a fake radio driver.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Silas09:
This, more than anything screams fake. Although, I wont hold out on faith as seeing he's done great things in the past. :/
[Windows Phone 7 General] Laurentius26:
Wow, this is cool, HD2 running WP7. :cool:

Big thanks to Cotulla, Da_G and DFT.

Great to see they are all working together. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Symondo:
I'm sold

Keeping a keen eye on this to extend the life of my HD2... glad i took it out on a 2 year contract now :D by the time it runs out a decent upgrade (if such a thing is possible) would be available as the HD3 looks to be a waste of the word 'upgrade'
[Windows Phone 7 General] kaymado:
Gets your facts right

What a crap example... "If Android Can boot on iphone (only 2G btw)...", dude, Android on iphone, really not that worth it....

Maybe you meant:

"If Iphone can boot OS4, the why wouldnt the amazing xda developers find a way to get a much cooler device (HD2 for example) to boot a much cooler OS (like Android!)"?

:p
[Windows Phone 7 General] r4ster:
He never got it "booted". It was loaded in the same way android was, by haret (or some kind of it, whatever). But it was never really ported with proper drivers etc.
[Windows Phone 7 General] BlackICE:
Why does it say "Fake GSM Network" on the first icon? I think this is fake.
[Windows Phone 7 General] shuntje:
shhhhh do you hear that ?

Its the sound of your ignorance.

Its legit mate the rom is likely either from the test version for the virtual thingy. Or the loaded some files for it to fake a radio to make it boot or something.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kholk:
Fake GSM Network implies that GSM driver is not implemented yet or it doesn't work yet.

Probably Touchscreen, audio, WiFi, sensors (etc) drivers aren't working, but seeing it to boot correctly it's definitely a good result when we're dealing with a proprietary (half)closedsource OS.

P.S.: I hate the nerdflamers that doesn't know what's in the backscene of all.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dusan22:
great news, but...

This is all great news :-)

One thing bothers me though... We already use Android and WP 6.5. but one problem emerges from that.

When you get an sms or a call in Android, you won't have it logged in the WM 6.5. So eventually it would be best for the user to stick to only one OS, even if the phone is capable of many. Or is there a way to make the events (calls, messages, calendar events,...) work cross-platform? So for example I send an sms from WM 6.5. it will be logged there, then switch to Android and it will be there too. This would be great :-)

Maybe it's a little bit off-topic, but it touches the multi platform phenomena imho :-D

Last words: Thanks Cotulla!
[Windows Phone 7 General] stirkac:
yeah could be possible by some "online" service to backup your data but it's probably too exploiting for the most people. usually you just stick to the one you like the most ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] MatG:
The only thing i can say after seeing this vid is H**Y S**T :D

This made me buy a new hd 2 :D at least I'll wait til fully working wp7 on HD2

But this is 100% real vid. Keep it up bro :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] yousufshah:
i dont think so thats true.but tomorrow is annoucement of windows 7 phone.so dont forget it
[Windows Phone 7 General] 96edwy:
this has got me so exited, im due an upgrade anyway so i could get a wp7 when its released on o2 but if wp7 works on the hd2 i may consider keeping it for a few more months
[Windows Phone 7 General] sibeer:
Awesome progress by Cotulla, can't wait to give yet another OS a go on my HD2. Seriously can't believe those questioning this as being a video or similar.
[Windows Phone 7 General] cezuk:
I'm not convinced. As a software developer myself, I know that sometimes dummy code needs to be implemented during the development phase to get things to work - especially for early demos. If WinMo7 requires a recognised radio in order to boot and no radio has been ported, it would make perfect sense that a skeleton "dummy radio" might be used to trick WinMo7 into booting up.

And from what I've gathered over the past year, if anyone has the knowledge to write a dummy radio, it is cotulla. The man is a legend in the world of WinMo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Spl4tt:
so fkin true.
[Windows Phone 7 General] HD2Owner:
word. he's a genius...

without him we wouldn't even have sspl/hspl for our hd2's.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Sandbunny:
Exchange 2010 will be the solution. It syncs tasks, agenda, mail, sms and contacts or 1 of the online platforms
[Windows Phone 7 General] emigrating:
But since all announced (so far) WP7 handsets use the same SoC as the HD2 there should be radio-support out of the box (ie. no driver issues)?!
[Windows Phone 7 General] BLAST3RR:
Anyone noticed it displaying 'Sat 5' on the homescreen?

The last time the 5th was a saturday was in June.. :confused:

Not saying I doubt Cotulla's work, since he IS the phone god, but this at first did look a bit weird to me..
[Windows Phone 7 General] madnish30:
+1 :D:D:D:D

10chars.
[Windows Phone 7 General] suicidal.banana:
Yay, cant wait to test it

(yea, count me as a real, i dont doubt the man)
[Windows Phone 7 General] HerrVorragend:
who said that the date has to be correct? everytime I flash my phone I have to reset date and time to the actual values... that is no "evidence".

perhpas we all sould be quiet... the spec of HD3 and HD2 are nearly identical and I would bet that the hd2 was one of the development devices from ms. so there will be an upgrade, but trying to verify that it is a secods fakevideo doesn't help. its just frustrating!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Peew971:
HD7 ROM?

So apparently the HTC HD7 has the exact same specs as the HD2? If that's really the case, wouldn't a port be quite easy?
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicknowsky:
dont mean much, June 5th is the build date set in the image. Its probably when the build was compiled. No carrier or network to sync the time and date. so the default date come into play, which in this case is June 5th
[Windows Phone 7 General] missbritt2008:
i agree.... i ready to boot wp7 on HD2
[Windows Phone 7 General] AndyHy:
Yup, using today's new HD2 ROM Radio et al...
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ianas:
RE: "Sat 5" You ever run Android on an HD2? Totally screws up the date since Linux uses a different timebase than windows if your ROM uses the default linux timestamp settings. He's probably got a linux date stored in the real-time clock, but WP7 reads it differently (I always have to sync to carrier time when I go back to WM6.5 after running android for a while).
[Windows Phone 7 General] 3one7:
hd7 rom on hd2

i have a hd2 with darkstone froyo with jmz dual boot my question is can i put the hd7 rom on my phone to replace the rom that came with the hd2 and still keep my froyo?
[Windows Phone 7 General] juggs:
If you would like a WP7/Froyo Paperweight, go for it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sterkejerreke:
Windows 7 on HD2

I bought this HD2 cause HTC first promised Windows 7 would come available for this phone. Now they changed their policy I surely hope this video is real. I hope one of us succeeds to get it on the HD2 and want to share.
[Windows Phone 7 General] panikiniki:
HTC never ever promised any upgrade to WP7 for the HD2.

I bought the device as this was the biggest ass kicking smartphone available.

Windows 6.5 did not dissapoint as such.

I would be very surprised if anybody can get this WP7 OS to run on the HD2 without having to miss marketplace, Xbox and cloud functionality they have lined up.

Anyways good job Cotulla and others who have participated sofar.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nygmam:
I got the HD2 because it was a kiska$$ windows 6.5 phone, and I am very happy with 6.5 (As cooked by NRG) and still underwelmed by WP7. The fact that it can boot on the HD2 (yes, I believe it is real) is promising, but even if it runs perfectly, I don't see what WP7 can do that WM6.5 can't do for me right now... I have all the Apps I need right now, thanks in no small part to the xda community.

Sure WP7 will be nice for people who don't like to tinker, and prefer everything spoon feed to them (read: Iphone people) but for the true hard core power user, who likes to control every bit of their phone experience, and doesn't like to be shakled to the whims of microsoft, WP7 is just a toy, and one I look forward to playing with on my HD2... But that is the key, I will enjoy playing with it, much like I play with android now. But for day to day use, and as a phone, WM 6.5 is just fine for me... To all those that bought an HD2 because it may have been able to run WP7, you should have waited to get a native WP7 phone, or an iPhone.

Bring on the WP7 port, though, as it will be fun to play with, and will turn the HD2 into a three (Or 4 if you cound Ubantu, or 5 if you count Win95) OS phone, which just add somehting of an Awww factor to the phone. As for me, probably booting into WP7 to showoff that my phone can, will be the only time I will probably run WP7 on the HD2.... Unless they come up with a killer app, but haven't see that yet
[Windows Phone 7 General] 3one7:
so basically you saying i have to buy a hd7 phone then put froyo on it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
some people are inferring that, but honestly it is going to be a lot easier to port WP7 to the HD2 along with Froyo (and easier to NAND on the tmobile version) than a full port of Android a WP7 phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] calc:
Not sure if anyone has already said this but according to Engadget the new phones are now using the MSM8250 snapdragon and not the QSD8250 found on the LEO. Looking at Qualcomms spec sheet it looks like there's some definite improvements in the Adreno GPU. I'm not sure how much of a performance gap there will be but.....

After looking at some amazing pics and videos of the gaming capability of the Windows Phone 7 i'm starting to wonder how much of a hit the LEO will take when running these intense 3D games........ but i guess first things first, get a basic working port :confused: :confused: :confused:
[Windows Phone 7 General] ~~Tito~~:
To General!

~~Tito~~

MOD FAIL. . .. Crap, out of my jurisdiction too. . .great have to call in the big boys to move it back lol. . .
[Windows Phone 7 General] imfloflo:
@~~Tito~~ why have you move it to general ? for me It 's better in development and hacking .
[Windows Phone 7 General] vladimir2989:
i know we been asked not to ask questions like ETA ... stilll it be nice to play around with version even if it really basic and dosent have GSM, WiFi etc... i would be happy to particapete in Beta... for flashing or anything else... and i really hope we get some sort of version no matter how functional to try some times soon :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] sebacu:
I think everybody expect that WM7 to be ported to HD2, nevertheless all of the end user ppl would like to invest the time to play around with the new OS, even if some app’s are not supported or not integrated.

For sure we can expect some ROM’s to pop up quite soon and from the presentation and lunch, (except that the connection data died for the developer  ), I would assume that it will work also on HD2.
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
not sure what you're talking about. The HD7 uses QSD8250 just like the HD2.

(here's just one spec sheet, you can find a million others).

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd7-3338.php
[Windows Phone 7 General] Trueloveice:
this must be real. and I may won't get another device in years
[Windows Phone 7 General] xyukith:
nothing is impossible
[Windows Phone 7 General] orangekid:
except when Android 3 comes out with a dual-core scorpion processor next year :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Trodamus:
When I read the gobbleygook that no current phone would have the hardware to run Winmo7, I was disappointed with my 6.5 HD2 investment. Now with spec sheets (link removed due to green status, but the tmobile website has the HD7 specs) showing that the HD7 (among other winmo7 phones) are basically the same as my HD2, I'm happy that I can at least hope to get it up and running on my current phone, tiding me over until some fancier hardware actually comes out at the end of my contract.

As for the authenticity of the video, I don't know who he is, but everyone else here does and even if highly doctored or dolled up, it proves that the resident winmo genius is at least working on it, so that's still good news.

So. What about Winmo7 has you guys excited?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Raggy360:
Cotulla = LEGEND!!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Omega Ra:
Wow...nice. Question since T-mobile is CDMA, could an HD2 work on Verizons network??? if So I think I may be in the market for one if this pans out :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] fredulus:
T-Mobile is gsm

Sent from my HDroid2
[Windows Phone 7 General] Omega Ra:
oh right...sprint is the other CDMA
[Windows Phone 7 General] hoss_n2:
look at te secifications at microsft website http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/7/phones.aspx it is QSD8250 not MSM 8250
[Windows Phone 7 General] jdw97702:
Really really hope its true. Love the hd2 and would dig giving window 7 a shot on it without having to buy a whole new phone .
[Windows Phone 7 General] mello_yello_hero:
no not really probably most complete though

sorry tp2 beat yeah to it winmo, Android, Ubuntu

but would be first to have 4 cause think you guy can do ubuntu as well
[Windows Phone 7 General] juggs:
HD2 runs Ubuntu and Win95 IIRC. So tp2 can suck it. :D

So it'll be running 5. Quintboot ftw.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rr5678:
Knowing all this, I'm happy I bought this phone.

Now I dont want to know the word for a 6 boot :p
[Windows Phone 7 General] papoble:
All this is wonderfull, thanks Cotulla you are great...:eek:
[Windows Phone 7 General] And_One:
May be somebody have news about Cotalla porting WP7 on HD2? How much % done? I know what his said about any question from him.
[Windows Phone 7 General] xpehbam:
Would love to say plus one on the info, but don't want to bug the developer. Let's give the guy some breathing room
[Windows Phone 7 General] calc:
good to hear I suppose. I was basing my facts from engadget I guess they got their facts mixed up.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Kezzainc:
How does it work re not been open source ? Would M$ have a problem with us sharing it around ?

Phone7 needed better hardware to shake us off what we had on this early OS. And with them bringing it out with the same GPU/CPU as HD2 is against what they had always said.... Go Cotulla, lets get this landed and ill have your baby. lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] gprash:
best news I have heard so far about the hd2 ... i am sure that win phone 7 is going to be a strong os on the market and will be amazing to have on my hd2 :)

Thanks Cotulla and everyone else ! ... great work ...
[Windows Phone 7 General] ~~Tito~~:
I know it was a blind move, I was cleaning out the forum, and I did this thread on accident lol. :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] tai4de2:
There's no such thing as Winmo7. That project/product was killed about 2 years ago.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mwang:
hehe its real but now just working with HTC HD2 , test T-Mobile HD2 had little problem need to work some driver :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Lol. I don't fund hobbies (nor do I see the point if it, tbqh), but he does do very nice work.

!!! Edit: I don't mod my phones, so I'm quite flame-retarded as far as that opinion is concerned. I come here fir news, not guides :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SR3TLAW:
This may be a question already covered but I can't seem to find it. Is there any way to press the decline buttonb gettings call and have it still ring on their end (as if I just didn't pick up). Setting on youmail or application for this?

Thanks

Craig
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dick Ripple:
Press the volume down button and it will silence the ringer. Hope this helps.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SR3TLAW:
Thanks
[Epic 4G Android Development] Seanc13:
Can anyone send me in the right direction to learn how to start cooking ROMs?

Thanks, please feel free to drop off suggestions here or at my email: SeanAX13@Aol.com

Thanks everyone
[Epic 4G Android Development] Kelvala:
This might be a good place to start, posting here for others that might be interested...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=566235
[Fascinate General] orateam:
As a longtime iPhone owner, i'm concerned over the news that iPhone is coming to Verizon. ATT was not always a crappy network. iPHone made them crappy. Pushing millions of new data users was detrimental to the network. Now we get them on the Verizon soon. I'm stuck on Verizon for 2 years so i hope this doesn't go through.

I did think i read that iphone would only come to verizon on the LTE network which would not impact us 3G users. But will verizion take bandwidth/towers away from 3G for LTE?
[Fascinate General] DeezNotes:
I got with AT&T back in 98. They kinda sucked back then too. I do think the iPhone created some saturation on the network, but I also think the increase in users made a network that sucked suck more. But what do I know?
[Fascinate General] mackeydesigns:
"we have to earn it" is a quote used by Verizon Wireless' CEO.

Earning it, dissected by a few people means that Verizon has to increase the stability of their network and push out LTE faster. I don't think Verizon's network won't suffer too hard if the iPhone does get pushed.

There is a chance that by getting the iPhone, that Verizon's network will get stronger, bigger and better to be able to handle that much more data. On a side note, Android users are already consuming more data than iPhone users, and since Verizon is the largest carrier with android devices, adding the iPhone to the mix just = more customers, data consumption may differ.

If you switch to another carrier because of the iPhone, i believe you will make the wrong decision. Verizon has been behind on the 4G/LTE update only because they want to cover a lot of people and do it right. Their roadmap in 2011+ coupled with LTE is just the first step to having the ultimate mobile service at your finger tips.

Additional edit:

Also, the latest rumors also indicate that there could be two different versions coming out. The first one having a CDMA/LTE based chip to work right away, and then once LTE is fully established, a full 4G/LTE phone. Time will only tell, but the fact still remains that so much of this talk about the iPhone just means that it's eventually going to go there, when is the question.
[Fascinate General] AlexDeGruven:
AT&T has always had a relatively crappy data network, as far as reach and availability.

The launch of the iPhone created so much additional load on the network that the crappiness was exposed.

If you look at it, there were very few high data-consumption devices on AT&T before the iPhone.
[Fascinate General] orateam:
If you look at my sig, i've had at least 4 phones on Cingular/ATT prior to iPhone.

-->HTC Wallaby (siemens SX56)

-->HTC Alpine

-->HTC BlueAngel (siemens SX66)

-->HTC Hermes TyTN(Cingular 8525)

Media Max was the fastest you could get (2G), but that was in days before Heavy Flash loaded sites. You could shoot through websites without any constraints. I also always had weather widgets, newsfeeds, and instant messaging. None ever had issues. In the same places i've lived in for the last decade, i now got dead spots for calls and data. I think ATT towers now gets taxed easily, bringing the communication down. I just don't want to see that same thing happen to Verizon, of which I've grown to love what it was once like to keep a call going clearly from where i started driving to where i ended up.
[Fascinate General] ghdtpdna:
If indeed iPhone is coming to VZW and early next year, it would be just 3g not lte. I am already experiencing slow downs ever since Motorola Droid was launched.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chesus05:
Hi guys,

I'm new to android phones samsung, I come from a milestone and I am a bit dizzy with it the roms, kernels, baseband, etc.

I could update the phone, and put cognition, lagfix, and HSUPA

But I have some signal problems. I specifically bought the captivate because it has all the bands of my country (Argentina), but I think somewhere in the process, I changed the baseband to the i9000.

I wanted to know if it is possible to change only the baseband back to the i897 and maintain cognition, the lagfix and everything else.

I leave it that shows me system information. I search the forum and saw that there is a combination I want but not how they got it.

Firm Version

2.1-update1

Baseband

I9000UGJH2

Kernel Version

2.6.26

atin@thor #Voodoo_lagfix_3.0_v1.10

N Comp

Cognition v2.1.5

Thanks,

Regards
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chesus05:
I think it is not possible, at least in any thread I found that comment
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SR3TLAW:
Any way to make my button on blue tooth initiate google voice search than the dialer. It can do so much more than just the dialer and would keep me from using phone as much in car.

Thanks
[HD2 General] bazgee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_HWhG-nrzk

All Credit goes to Cotulla and others at XDA for making this possible! Now we see why we shouldnt bother the devs to rush things! :)
[HD2 General] JanssoN:
Hell yeah :D

That looks awesome. I don't wanna know how much time he spends to get things like this workin.. Cotulla is a god :)
[HD2 General] renna1992:
looks great, but complete in the wrong section posted ;)
[HD2 General] JanssoN:
Yes and no. I mean there is no section for WM7 on HD2 ;)

And because Cotulla is known for his work on his bootloader for android, I think this isn't wrong. But you are right, it is WM and this is android.

But it's interesting to see :D
[HD2 General] bazgee:
I agree this is the reason I posted this here, But I do think however we need a section for windows and a section for android.
[HD2 General] jamieross:
HD2 General maybe??? might be more suitable
[HD2 General] the_scotsman:
There's a thread already on it in the WP7 dev forum: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=802971
[HD2 General] pack21:
Can anyone hold me, I'm going to cry......:o

Because now, I'm sure that, Jesus reincarnated in cotulla.
[HD2 General] z33dev33l:
not bad but its no android :-p
[HD2 General] htc-hd2:
Why does it say "fake GSM network" in the network connection?
[HD2 General] HelloH:
Dummy radio driver from the emu?