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[Vibrant General] Erickomen27:
So I Was Browsing The Market And Went To An App That Used Euro Currency When I Opened The App To Look At It, I Noticed It Changed The Currency To USD

For Instance

Beautiful Widgets - Euro 1.49

Open App

Beautiful Widgets - USD ~2.04

Has It Always Done That?

If It Has I've Never Noticed It :confused:

I'm Running J16 BTW
[Vibrant General] SamVib:
Just noticed that. It's pretty nice to know how much you're actually spending.

No, it is not new in JI6, I am running JI2 and it there.
[Vibrant General] Erickomen27:
Yeah I Thought It Was Pretty Nice
[EVO 4G General] IconBoy:
(I posted this over at the TMo forum, but figured I might get some more suggestions/help here).

I have the Sprint EVO on the everything plan and it gives me 450 minutes to any landline. All cell to cell calls are included. I pay $80/month and that includes all SMS, data and navigation.

I have a few days before my 30 days are up to decide if I stick with it or go with something else.

I have never had a CDMA phone before. My only concern is if I trash/drop the phone it my kids drop it in the toilet, then I have to purchase another CDMA unit. If I go with TMo, and I trash a phone, I can put the SIM in any of my unlocked GSM phones. I've always used ATT but now am considering the new G2 on TMo.

Would appreciate any advice/suggestions.

Do I keep the EVO and the pretty decent plan, or go to TMo before my window of return closes for two years?

My needs are not huge, but father-in-law has very kindly agreed to pay the monthly bill, so that is a big help.

I do surf the net a fair bit (Facebook, few blogs, search for directions, phone numbers etc, but not excessive.

Talk: just the normal calls to family (i'll be home at 6pm, can you pick up milk etc.) and then the odd 20+ minute call to a friend every now and again. My biggest thing with regards to calling (landlines, businesses or other cellphones) is I don't want to have to look at a clock and wonder if I can call now or wait ½ an hour until a certain time of the day or be concerned what network they are on — just want to be able to pick up the phone and call whenever I need to, as I don't have a landline.

Used to be with ATT, but want a change. ATT often cripples their phones by barring features (e.g. on wife's ATT Samsung Captivate, you can't install non-market APKs because the Unknown Sources checkbox option has been removed).

So far, my experience with the EVO and Sprint has been decent. EVO battery isn't exactly stellar.

I have thoroughly enjoyed switching to an Android phone and want to stay.

PS - In San Diego area if that will help regarding coverage
[EVO 4G General] Brutal-Force:
I will preface this by saying I am a former T-mo customer of 10 years. I don't have anything negative to say about T-mo, they have always taken care of me. I will say that the choice of phones recently (specifically android was sparse) because they were resting on the laurels of the G1 and then went in on the Nexus One Sales fiasco.

That aside, the plan is a good deal, and although they claim "really" unlimited data, I think it was shown that it is capped at 5GBs. But considering your internet use that isn't bad. I will say that likely your Sprint plan would be cheaper. As far as the G2 goes, I haven't done a lot of reading on it, but I think it is actually inferior to the EVO. Additionally, while you could get the Nexus One as well, I think even it is getting long in the tooth. You could also opt for the Samsung Captivate?Facinate? I get all the names messed up.

If your only gripe with the EVO is the battery, then I would recommend the Seidio 3500mAh battery. You won't regret it. You will never complain about the battery again. I think moving to Tmo for the G2 will probably be a mistake, however GSM phones are nice because as you pointed out, if you have a non-smart phone already, you can always downgrade your plan and then just stick your sim card into the G1 and use Wifi. I hope that helps.
[EVO 4G General] bjb_nyj101:
How did you get your father in law to pay for your bill?

Better yet, why would you even consider letting him pay for your phone bill?

And as far as your post: I have an Evo. I would trade it for a G2 in a heartbeat.
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
Tmobile does not have the best track record for reception though - keep that in mind. While they are cheaper and offer some pretty slick phones it comes at a price. If you get great reception in your area with tmo then do it. If not, what is the point in getting a smart phone?
[EVO 4G General] bharris25:
Spotty 3g coverage here in St. Louis for t-mobile made it an easy decision for me. Love my Evo.
[EVO 4G General] Brutal-Force:
Ok, that is a very condescending statement. Maybe it was a gift? Maybe His father has his whole family on one plan at a discount? He probably wouldn't even have bought this phone if he had to pay for it himself?

Ok, now that that is out of the way.

Why would you trade the EVO for the G2 in a heartbeat? I looked up the G2 and what I see is a hybrid Nexus One/G1 mashup. It looks kind of nice, but having used the G1 for two years, let me be the first to say, the only thing to fail on the G1 for me was the keyboard. Don't get me wrong, I do miss it, but it is the weak link. Four co-workers also owned the G1 and all of them had multiple keyboard failures.

5MP camera? That is going backwards. 3.7" Screen... again, going backwards. I didn't see an HDMI out (not that this currently gets much use). It is my understanding that this is supposed to sport the 800Mhz Snapdragon, although that must be wrong, thats like triple strike.

The only reason I could see getting the G2 is if you want a hard keyboarded Nexus One... and if thats the case, samsung makes the epic. As far as I see, it is inferior to the EVO in every way. Oh.... and assuredly it also has poor battery life, so add an extended battery just like I did on the G1 and the EVO and then it looses its "thin/sexy" appeal.

I am not sold. To me this is just Tmo trying to get a leg up on the EVO and failing. "4G LIKE SPEEDS"? Whats that all about? My friends use their HDSPA+ (sp.) and are getting like 2Mbps down. Not all that impressed. I can get 6.5Mbps on 4G.

Thats my opinion and I am sticking too it.
[EVO 4G General] IconBoy:
Long story, but basically someone in the family canceled our (previous) ATT contract without telling us (messy family dynamics). One day we had cell signal and then all of a sudden, nothing. I think it was his way to make things right and help, even though he wasn't at fault - phone was a gift!

I do appreciate the helpful input on how you folks are using your devices and what is good or not good.
[EVO 4G General] notasimpleway:
I recently bought my sister the My Touch Slide and the rep told me we had 3g coverage where we lived but once we got home it had a big E on the data icon but full bars for service. I kept looking for a 2g/3g switch thinking it was auto 2g cause after all the phone had full almost perfect reception. But after looking I called T-mobile and found out almost the entire state I live in does not have 3g coverage. No wonder no one uses T-mobile around here. I was very pissed at the sales rep for lying or just not knowing. He kept trying to sign us up for an iPhone and I almost told him to shove it up his.... but how can they still not have 3g here? The other cell companies do. Including the ones smaller than T-Mobile. Anyways, I would be sure to check coverage. Any phone will have poor battery life if it has poor reception. Typing this got me pissed again LOL

Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Phone wise, I'd take the G2 over the EVO 4G.

I've seen people get 3-4 Mbps over T-Mo's HSPA+ network on a Nexus One which ISN'T a HSPA+ phone. I have no idea what people are getting with the G2 (which is HSPA+) but I saw a Android Central post showing 15 Mbps. Either way, T-Mo is claiming up to 21 Mbps which is a good bit faster than Clear/Sprint's WiMax max of 10 Mbps. So for now, it seems like HSPA+ on the G2 is faster.

The G2 also has a nice looking hardware keyboard, and even after using the EVO (which has a large screen and thus large on screen keyboard +Swype) and the iPhone (which has the best standard on screen keyboard IMO), I'd still rather have a hardware keyboard to type out longer emails.

Processor wise, it's a no contest, the G2 is better. I've seen videos of it running a live wall paper + the 3D app drawer with buttery frame rates -- something the EVO CAN'T DO. And of course gaming is also going to be a lot better.

Software wise it has two big things: 1) it's close to stock and I prefer stock over anything, and 2) Cyanogen is already claiming support and I believe it's actually going to be his day to day phone. So expect it to get speedy updates.

It's pretty much a upgraded Nexus One with a hardware keyboard which is.. great. The EVO has one big upside:it's 4.3" display; but otherwise it's a old phone (2009 specs) with a couple of novelty benefits (HDMI, Kick stand, FF cam).
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
That 800 MHz Snapdragon is a 2nd generation Snapdragon which is not only faster but also more energy efficient than the 1 GHz one on the EVO. The GPU alone is somewhere around 3 times more powerful.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Its a Scorpion processor not Snapdragon

"The MSM7x30 chipset platform consists of the MSM7230™ and MSM7630™. * Scorpion 800 MHz CPU * Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity o MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads o MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE * Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance * High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second o Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6) * High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration * High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support * 12-megapixel camera support * Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes * Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity * Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode) * Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T) * Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone"

The G2 to me is a downgrade. No HDMI out, no video calling, smaller screen, slower processor, lower camera, flash ready but not enabled (correct me if its already been enabled) more expensive/month/features included in plan. I would get the Nexus if you're sticking with Tmo.
[EVO 4G General] Brutal-Force:
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/10/4g-speedtest-follow-up-g2-vs-evo-t-mobile-vs-sprint/ - Sprint lays down the smack.

Actual Test Tmo G2 vs. Sprint 4G. As far as fluidity, What I am seeing is no real difference in App speeds. Where you see the difference is while using the Sense UI vs. Stock Froyo 2.2. I think that all of us HTC Android owners are already aware of the Sense Laggy-ness vs. Stock Froyo. Its a trade off for looks vs. function.
[EVO 4G General] Pao23:
But stating that in this forum isn't fully fair I'd think. Many of us have simply stopped using the sense launcher. Even most of the sense based Roms in Development aren't using sense as the launcher, be it Launcher Pro or ADW or what ev'.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
HDMI is a niche feature that people barely if at all ever use. Video calling, until Skype VIDEO chat comes back (or Google video shat comes) it's also pretty useless. Smaller screen is a preference thing, but as I said, I prefer the larger screen.

The processor is absolutely faster and better -- IT IS NOT SLOWER. Clock speed doesn't always equal better, and this is one of the cases when it doesn't. The benchmarks show this. The Snapdragon on the EVO is a old CPU/GPU that dates back to the HD2 in 2009.

Flash as in Adobe Flash? It launches with 2.2 so of course it's there; and not only is it there, but it's probably better or going to be better than on the EVO. The Adreno 205 on the G2 has Flash hardware acceleration, the EVO's GPU doesn't. That means better performance and less battery drain when viewing flash video.

T-Mo's off contract plans are way better. If you can stomach paying the up front cost of a phone, it's as cheap as Sprint over the long run.

Why would should anyone get a Nexus One over the G2? G2: Nexus One + better CPU/GPU, hardware keyboard, HSPA+ ready.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
It doesn't matter. There are still Sense services running in the background taking up RAM and CPU time. Plus all the Sense apps (contacts/phone/etc) are just as slow as the Sense launcher compared to it's AOSP counterparts.
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
Going to tmobile from Sprint is like going from a Corvette ZR1 to a v6 Camaro for me. Worst service ive ever had reception wise by FAR. Dead spots everywhere, no 3G half the time... it was just unbearable. Couldnt use my phone inside of the house... I just cant do it. Their HSPA claims are nice, but thats when you actually have 3G. Honestly, here in Atlanta I think metro has better coverage than Tmobile.

And I keep hearing how this HSPA is supposed to be so much better than Sprints 4G.. but out of all of the Nexus and G2 owners i've tested against here in Atlanta not a single ONE of them could get over 3-5 megs down constantly while I drew 10-12 regularly. As far as "faster processor".. honestly its a phone, I could care less about 12 thousandths of a second difference in opening an app.

Video chat is useless without skype? Thats your opinion and you're entitled to it but thats just silly. I use fring and now the new video chat app with plenty of my friends with the evo, epic AND the iphone 4 pretty much everyday. It's easy to say its useless when its a feature your phone doesnt have. Keyboard? Dont need it... with swype and shapewriter im just as fast as I was with physical keys on the typing... plus HTC has been KNOWN to be sketchy in the department of sliders with the whole chord seperation fiasco of the TP1 and the keyboard issues of the TP2... I had both.

There is basically nothing about the G2 that'd make me choose it over the evo but its all a matter of preference. But the fact that its on tmobile pretty much seals the deal that ill NEVER have one. Only way id leave Sprint service wise is Verizon.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Service/Coverage varies from place to place -- Sprint sucks in some places too. It's up to you to find out which one is best in your area.

As for the CPU/GPU issue: It just reminds me of some of my past experiences with other products. I remember getting a convertible Vista tablet a while back. It had pretty good specs but the GPU turned out to be crap. I never intended to game on it but even though everything else ran perfectly, anything dealing with Aero was choppy. It was annoying. I bought a pretty expensive tablet and the least I'd expected was for the OS UI animations to run smooth.

I experienced the same thing on the EVO. I don't game much, but UI stuff like live wall papers and 3D app drawers cause the EVO to crawl. It isn't TOO bad right now but what if Gingerbread finally brings GPU acceleration and a more animated UI? Can we expect the EVO/first gen Snapdragon to keep up? I'm not too confident.
[EVO 4G General] rutter9:
I like mine since I can swap my coverage to verizon when sprint is weak in reception while traveling :D
[EVO 4G General] brownhornet:
But thats the thing... I know phones are regional but I had tmobile while I was in DC, New Orleans, Birmingham and LA and had reception issues in every spot. Traveling on I-10 from Mobile to New Orleans was a tragedy with my reception.
[EVO 4G General] BrianDigital:
Honestly you should go with whatever carrier has the best reception in your area. Would really be bad to be locked into a contract and have to outside to make calls.

I would go back to t mobile if they pick of their service. Buts thats for me and my area. Android phones are becoming so replaceable since all the new ones are high powered and they all do the same things. You should really only concern yourself with service and price
[EVO 4G General] dabezt1:
Im in the same boat, but i was looking to switch to sprint.

The way I have it IN MY AREA:

*Tmobile has better Customer Service. They will take care of you and any issues.

*Tmobile has better prices. In my situation

*Tmobiles Internet is Faster HSPA+ area. No data overages, Might be throttled to edge after 10gbs (which i have exceeded one moenth and was not throttled, due to my area traffic level not being high)

*I like being able to swap phones by just switching Sims.

*Sprint has better 3G coverage, Not as fast but in more places. Nice for ipad tethering

*Earlier free nights which is a plug with my family plan.

*Would give nudge on better phones since i love large screen phones.

I think both a good companies, it just comes down to where your located. Coverage changes for carriers, so one will be better than the other in some places. Only thing that bothers me is the Sprints CEO has mentioned ending unlimited data due to people abusing it. But that applies to all carriers

What is keeping me from switching so far is the fact that Tmobile has ALWAYS resolved any issues ive had, even if it wasnt there fault they would do the right thing, and Ive never had any billing issues. They definately make you feel appreciated as a customer. Customer service experience with sprint was fine, but nothing to jump about.
[EVO 4G General] kamiller42:
Your phone comes to a crawl with live wallpaper? You must have something wrong with your phone.

Sprint has not announced a 4G data cap. Dan Hesse floated the idea of ending unlimited data IF it's abused. See here.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
4g will never be capped period. If data is somehow capped it will be 3g. Sprint and clear use the same towers, and clear allows unlimited use of their network on home routers. And limiting home internet would just KILL their clientèle (idk about you but I use probably 20-30gb of data a month on my computer, and limiting that would be a 1 way ticket to a new isp).
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
@kamiller crawl was a bad word, its just not smooth. If you've ever used a galaxy s and evo side by side, you'll see what I mean.

@last chance you'd be surprised at how many home ISP cap/throttle. I can see Clear/Sprint throttling if not out right capping 4G once it becomes mainstream.

via Tapatalk.
[EVO 4G General] werxen:
These companies have no issues with how much internet is used. They just like milking customers for everything they have. Since clearwire is an ISP backbone from what I hear its even easier for Sprint to have access to the internet (and much cheaper). Having said this, Sprint is also a corporation with stocks. More money companies spend = less stock values so I would not throw the idea of data caps out in the future. Sad how it works...
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Most home ISPs are capped at either 250 or 500gb.

Sent from my Evo beeesshh
[EVO 4G General] Igotsanevo4g:
I had Tmo in SD and it BLEW for me at least, G2 is a damn sexy phone so i couldnt fault you either way, but sprints price+coverage and just awesomeness would cause me to stay if i was you.

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[EVO 4G General] Shane112358:
If it matters the G2 has a h/w rootkit that is making it very difficult to keep root on the device.
[EVO 4G General] Last-Chance:
lol who in the world would use 250-500gb of data? unless you are using it to host a server
[EVO 4G General] dallashigh:
The Scorpion is slower than the Snapdragon. If you don't believe it, run Linpack on it. The GPU is better, but the CPU is slower. Please don't bother arguing unless you can post a pic of your G2 breaking 36 in Linpack.

If you want to talk graphics/GPU that's fine. But I seriously wish people would stop claiming the G2's CPU is faster when it is provably slower.

And before anyone bothers bringing it up Quadrant is not a CPU benchmark.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Alright so.. it has a GPU that is 4x more capable. It's built using a 45nm process that is more energy efficient AND since it's based on the same architecture it's even more energy efficient @ 800 MHz. Now tell me when that CPU will ever be a bottle neck in Android and then tell me when the GPU in the EVO will be. Bottom line, the CPU in the G2 is superior and I'd rather have that one in my EVO.

It's a shame that the rootkit/whatever is causing trouble but if they crack it, that CPU/GPU + a custom kernal = insane battery life and performance.
[EVO 4G General] dallashigh:
I never said the Snapdragon was a better chip. I'm just tired of people making false claims and confusing the GPU with the CPU.
[EVO 4G General] Just_s:
Here is a big consideration in your decision

Before you go grab the G2, read this. It apparently includes some robust root busting software. This is horrible news!! I hope this tanks T-Mobile! Bastards. Though I'm sure many/all carriers will follow suit.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I was lurking the G2 forums and some say it's HTC doing, some say T-Mo. I really hope that it's not HTC. Android being locked locked by Moto/HTC would really kill it for us (..though mainstream will not even notice).
[EVO 4G General] Brutal-Force:
The good news is.... My EVO isn't locked down. Hopefully before my next upgrade is due, they will have sorted this rootkit stuff out.
[EVO 4G General] khov07:
OP, if you are an average user (do you plan on rooting? - this should answer whether or not you are an average user), then really it just comes down to which network gives you the best coverage for your dollar.

Arguments concerning GPU's and CPU's, and which one gives you better frame rates or linpack test results really don't mean much to an average user. For dev's, on the other hand, it can make a world of difference.

I am a business smartphone user and a network administrator. The EVO does all I need it to do, and then some; it is easily the best smartphone I've ever personally used.

I recommend you base your decision on the network and price point, if you need a phone NOW. The EVO is an excellent device, and I am sure the G2 will prove to be as well, for both business and casual gaming (I am in the camp that believes phones and handheld gaming systems still have a year or two before they can offer the best of both in a single device).

If you can wait: don't forget that in the next month or two, many WP7 devices will be unveiled, and will be released across many carriers...so you will have more options.
[EVO 4G General] beret9987:
Hmm.. Have to agree with the general sentiment here. Comes down to coverage and price. I personally haven't had any issues with Sprint customer service and they've always treated me with the respect I feel like I deserve. I'd probably stick with Sprint personally though if I were left up to the decision. Not like T-Mobile has horrible coverage, but Sprint does have the 2nd largest 3G network in the nation and if you ever travel around the country, it is nice to have it.
[EVO 4G General] treckin:
Shroomz did you mean those are the buried caps or unspoken termination caps on like charter/comcast/timewarner?

And do you mean up or down?

Anecdotally, I have a

I have a 12mb/5mb Comcast cable connection which is 24/7 speedboosted to 24mbs/10mbs.

I use probably over that amount (500GB) down some months, and average around or north of 250GB down.

Up is maybe 100 or so?

They have never said anything or been anything except stupid or helpful. Usually stupid.

They have never to my knowledge distributed my ip to any RIAA/MPAA bulldogs. The same was not true about Charter Cable in the central valley.

Except for some crap home wiring which they changed for free and a small backbone problem in Jan Jose causing me to get errant packet loss on some inbound routes, they have been really good.
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
If phones become unrootable ill just go back to windows, Android wont be the same without root. Ill be damned if im stuck with a tray full of NASCAR, moxier mail and amazonMP3 apps.