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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CasualStarlord:
I am currently suffering from Sleep of Death issues on all Android versions for the HD2, which makes it pretty useless for daily use. I am using the Standard Class 2 16GB card which came with my Telstra NextG HD2, I've tried all the ROM/Radio combination's I could be bothered with, 2.12 radio seems the best and I'm on the EnergyRom Cookie from 29th Sep currently, however I have tried other minimal ones and still SoD's.

As far as I can tell from threads around here it seems to be my microsdhc card that is the problem, now I want to upgrade to a 32GB card, and I was wondering if it was worthwhile getting a Class 6, or is a Class 4 going to cover all the bases?

I would like to know some specific brands and models of microsdhc cards that people use without getting SoD's so then I can go shopping :D I am hopeful someone is running it on a 32GB card somewhere out there, but I would settle for 16gb cards that happily run Android on the HD2. Thanks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] polo735:
What kernel are you using? I went from michyprima r11 to r1 in bangsters build and my sod's have completely disappeared.

I am using a sandisk 4gb microsdhc as well.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CasualStarlord:
what class is the card though, class 4?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] v-b-n:
No SOD/No Music Skips/Etc...

8GB Kingston Class 4 (2 of those :D)

8GB Transcend Class 4

16GB Sandisk Class 2

PS : My allocation unit size is always 64k
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CasualStarlord:
hmmm my 16GB card that came with my unit from Telstra is a Sandisk Class 2... and running that with 64k allocation still gives me SoD's....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sorin129:
hmm

Im using bangsters 1.4 build with chuckydroid for wm and radio 2.14 with a 16 gb class 2 sd card with 32k block size (as bangsters says is very important)

with this setup I get no sod's at all. it works flawless. I get sometime a delay when it wakes up from sleep but i press and run my finger on the black scree and it wakes up everytime. never have sod.

try my setup because the way it works for me is very stable. just as stable as my Nexus One. really

and if you try bangsters build just go trhu hes check list before you install
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] memin1857:
We mostly use transcend 8gb class 6 cards and they are fine.

Team branded class 6 cards are awful.

I usually use 64K cluster size.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mattfmartin:
Don't get 32gb card. You won't be able to boot android. You'll be wasting your money.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] CasualStarlord:
Oh wow! Thanks for the save :D

Do you know the reason why, or is there a thread on it? I tried searching but too many results to peel through :(

I know ANDROID had issues with formatting 32GB cards in the past... is it a problem like that with android in general or just the booting from a 32GB sd card?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rhacy:
Thanks for the heads up on the android boot issue with 32GB Micro SD cards, mattfmartin. D'oh... I was just about to pick one up, but will hold off for now. Thanks again!

As far as 16GB cards go, I've had good luck for the last few weeks with a SanDisk Class 2 model and HyperDroid v1.5. Moreover, for some reason, the SanDisk has outperformed a 16GB Toshiba Class 4 model in overall speed and stability. Go figure...

Best to all,

R

*Currently running and very impressed with Miri & DINIK's solid v19 ROM, HyperDroid v1.5, and Radio_leo_2.14.50.14 on a TMOUSA HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] lavagirl:
I have a class6 16GB Lexar card, with it I'm not having any issues with SoD or anything like that. But compared to my stock class 2 card, I haven't noticed any improvements in Android battery life or constant hang ups. Documents and podcasts load faster for sure though.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] rhacy:
The above statement about running Android from a 32GB Mirco SDHC card is incorrect, at least in my case. That said, I've been booting and running HyperDroid v1.5 by pongster for a few days now with a 32GB SanDisk Class 2 card. The only negative effect noticed so far; is that it takes Android twice as long to boot from the 32GB card verses my old SanDisk 16GB Class 2 card. Once booted, performance appears to be the same. If it helps anyone, I used Panasonic SDformatter v2.9 (3.0), set to it's default 32kb cluster size, to format the 32GB card.

Best to all,

R
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] AMCJUNGLE:
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STOP USING the RED end call button to wake the phone!!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Wampirate:
hey,

im about to buy a new micro sd and I dunno which:)

I thought of getting transcend 8gb class 6 but now I think that it'll be better to get a 16gb card.

Which 16gb micro sd card do you recommend?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jcsy:
I am currently using a 16GB SanDisk Class 4

I am quite convinced that different BLOCK SIZES matter for performance

Anyone has tried different block sizes and testified performacne/
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pablo15kl:
Hey,

I'm going to buy a microSD card Sandisk 16GB 4th class

Are there any problems with the operation of the NAND android who need ext2/3/4 partition on SD card?

Generally, this is a good choice?

Regards Pablo.

PS. Sorry for the language.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krum55:
Hey guys,

This might be really stupid but Launcher Pro has expired and I can't install any of the new files. I am using shubcrafts android build btw.

Is there any way of installing it? I have also allowed android to install foreign apps (so to speak).

Thanks.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krum55:
Also it wont let me access anything and just keeps opening up a web browser. I replaced the android file but that didn't do anything. I am thinking of just installing a new build.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bakano:
a coworker of mine had the same issue today. I'm just reposting the link from another website, since I typically come to xda to find answers to stuff like this... either manually type this into your ANDROID browser, or if you could somehow make it to this page from your phone, just click this link... from your phone lol

market://search?q=pname:org.adw.launcher

it is the direct adwlauncher link to the android market!

hope this helps! =)
[Captivate General] CLShortFuse:
So, I'm running JI6 and I just got this notice...

"AT&T is providing a free update for your phone. When asked to install the update, please select OK."

Shouldn't this only appear when running 2.1 builds?
[Captivate General] DOAlaboratories:
did you install it to see what it was?
[Captivate General] boomerod:
That would sure be interesting to know...thinking just the crappy JH7 update, but the hopefull in me is very curious...:D
[Captivate General] picklesnickles:
I actually got the same thing today but I'm avoiding it like the plague.

No chance in hell the ATT can provide me something as amazing as cognition2.2
[Captivate General] fufuplatter:
Heh...

So, I got the same message from AT&T as OP a few hours ago, and I just noticed a "Could not connect to the server" window. I'm guessing that by running Cog2.2 on my phone, the server won't push the update to it given that it isn't running an official build.

Oh well :rolleyes:
[Captivate General] n0r4d:
I can test this later as i have flashed back to stock 2.1, after testing JI6, and experiencing issues with key apps i use on a day to day basis. but i am curious to see about this update. I mean the most harm it could do is a software related "brick" right?
[Captivate General] KryptosXLayer2:
Furthermore, it states on my JH7 build that no user data would be lost - is this an over the air Froyo? I'm running 2.1 and already did the first update for JH7, so what is this?
[Captivate General] CLShortFuse:
You're running JH7 and got this message? Interesting...
[Captivate General] KryptosXLayer2:
Yep, and the bad news is....... I can't say what the hell the update was for considering it sat "preparing" it for a while, then failed to update, not unlike the issues others were having when putting on JH7 (mine updated right away, but my girlfriend's did not) - just tried to roll it a day forward to trick it, and it showed no update available! Will keep working on it, but there can't be just TWO of us who have seen this message when waking up this AM....
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
It will be the same JH7 OTA. AT&T just started sending out SMS to random Captivate owners. Nothing new. There is no way, nor AT&T cares, for AT&T to know you have updated to other firmware or not via SMS. They probably picking you out of the ppl who haven't tried to do OTA update.
[Captivate General] h8rift:
Every Captivate user will receive this text message once, regardless of what version they are on. AT&T can't see what version of Android OS you are running. What they are doing is sending a text message to all users that are showing a Captivate on file in chunks. I haven't received that message yet, but even though I'm running Froyo via Cog 2.2, I'm still gonna get this message at some point.

Just ignore it unless you really want to play with their over the air update (which apparently bricks phones if you've ever altered it from stock in any way, even if you Odin back to JF6....)

Personal opinion? Ignore it. CL, continue the great work you are doing on the Jupiter.xml edits / development. I read into your posts at least every other day.

Thanks folks,

-h8
[Captivate General] vikdmon:
That's right.. this is the forced JH7 official OTA update that it detects you haven't received it.
[Captivate General] himmelhauk:
It doesn't brick the phone, it just will fail during install, that's all. So your phone will remain in the same state since nothing will have been installed.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
For most, your phone will stay in quasi state: neither JF6, not JH7. And probably will never be able to upgrade again via either OTA or Kies. You have to Odin it.

For some, it actually bricks their phone, i.e. can't boot pass the logo screen.
[Captivate General] KewlRobD:
I have heard of very few people who have bricked there phone doing the OTA Update. For almost everyone the update fails and the phone boots into you previous ROM and gives you a message that no changes have been made to your phone.

Brick is a strong word to use. Brick indicates the phone has no hope of being used again. You can almost always ODIN your phone if all else fails.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
Actually, from what I read here, most failed update will show your phone is already at JH7 but none of the JH7 features are there. So, no, it does not boots into previous ROM.
[Captivate General] gk527:
So I called Samsung about the OTA firmware failing on my Captivate. I had to use ODIN at one point, so that's why it failed supposingly. Samsung said that there was an issue with v1 of the firmware update and there is now a v2, however Samsung couldn't tell me baseband version and they told me to call AT&T.

I called AT&T and asked them about this v2. They said that firmware I897UCJH7 has been released to fixed various bugs, some other items, and she specifically said GPS. So, I'm not sure what Samsung was meaning by v2, unless they meant this JH7 was v2 and what came on the phone out of the box was v1.

While I had AT&T on the phone I thought I'd ask about Android 2.2 and when it was going to be released. The AT&T rep said, "Hang on while I Google that for you." I was like WTH, really? This is where AT&T gets their information I guess... HA
[Captivate General] boborone:
Alot of times they google my questions. They do it for most questions that don't involve can't receive text and whatnot. Feature phone, they can help, smart phone, no way in hell.

From a phone on an app
[Captivate General] twilightwolf90:
I'm running stock 2.1 with root and I have the message. I will back up and reflash later tonight to see if I can download it and put it up for y'all. But currently, it fails the same way op described.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
The OTA update of JH7 is a special diff version with scripts in order to minize the download size (12 MB vs 120+MB). Obviously, the original script doesn't work very well. So, Samsung probably changed it so that it won't fail so easily. That's what Samsung means by v1 and v2. The final result, JH7, will be the same and you can easily do it via Kies Mini instead of playing Russian Roulette with OTA update.
[Captivate General] KewlRobD:
I would like you to show me some examples from threads on the captivate development section. I have been reading all of the threads regarding this update since it was released and don't recall even one person having their phone mis-report the ROM version. Almost every person that had the issue failed at 50 percent and then rebooted into their previous ROM version with a message that no changes had been made. There was a very small percentage of people who could not reboot into their previous ROM and needed to use ODIN to restore their JF6 ROM.

I don't mean to beat you down on this but I don't feel this thread is giving out credible information and could potentially lead people down the wrong path.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
Almost all the threads here about failed update reported show JH7 in Settings->About even though they failed update.

Here are a few threads regarding OTA updates and each thread has plenty of posts about update failed and baseband version reports JH7:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=789829

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=789458

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=788606

So, I don't know where your information comes from.
[Captivate General] mcord11758:
I failed update but showed jh7. Everytime I flashed a new rom. Or restored backup it would tell me an update was available. It was a pain and would not let me avoid the process of failing

I manually changed the date on my phone to 2012. Now if I check for update it says I can not do so for like 1600 hrs. Problem solved
[Captivate General] KryptosXLayer2:
WOW, there's an easier way to fix this without going all the way to doomsday (2012). Just go to Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Menu > Filter > All > Device Management > Clear Data > Then reboot phone

No more prompts for updates..... Had to do it myself just now because it kept prompting me again that there was the update available considering the stupid text message and "push" to my phone for what is thought to be the JH7 v2 update..... makes sense that it is that large of a file size considering it took much longer to download and sat at "Pending" for much longer before failing, so I'm still waiting for OTA Froyo because a Beta O/S, no matter what version, isn't what I want to do for this phone!
[Captivate General] gk527:
Got the text message this morning about a free software upgrade... probably 15 minutes later the red and blue arrows popped up on my notification bar, then a few minutes later got the message saying a software update is ready to be installed... I figured WTH, let's try it. I just did a ROM Manager backup.

It failed again... Now when I click on "software update" it says "No firmware". Reboot again, says it failed again...
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
No supprise there. Why do you want to *upgrade* anyway? Expect Froyo? :)

You can keep trying but you will NEVER be able to upgrade when your phone is already messed up by the failed OTA update.

You probably have to ODin back to stock JF6. Then use Kies mini to upgrade. Don't do OTA if you ever modded your phone.
[Captivate General] gk527:
I running Kies mini right now. We'll see what happens...
[Captivate General] PixelPerfect3:
Don't worry about it...

I upgraded to the latest OTA update via samsung kies and not OTA and still got it...I guess they just send out a text msg whenever it's "your turn".
[Captivate General] gk527:
So, this is what I got...

View attachment 415089
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
If you go to settings->About Phone, you will see your phone already reports you're on JH7 but not all the updates are actuallly there. Hence Kies Mini will not upgrade your phone either. You need flash back to stock JF6 first.
[Captivate General] gk527:
I followed the instructions that Kies gave me, and the second time it worked!! The firmware was downloaded and applied to the phone all the way to 100%

About phone now reads I897UCJH7 ECLAIR.UCJH7

*#1234# reads:

PDA: I897UCJH7

PHONE: I897UCJH7

CSC: I897ATTJF6

However I'm not rooted anymore... That's an easy fix.

Some more AT&T bloatware was installed too...
[Captivate General] KryptosXLayer2:
My phone was rooted before doing the update when it first released (v1 or whatever you'd like to call it). It did not fail upon updating until AFTER the loading bar went all the way to 100% - meaning it didn't get stuck on 50% like everyone else's. It says JH7 under About Phone, and it dims darker than before just fine and the NAV has been considerably better than before. Update complete in my opinion.......

I wish everyone would stop reporting that this JH7 update fails on every instance and not all the features for it are there for every Captivate owner, because that isn't the case - girlfriend's Captivate did the same thing, except I had to trick it to get the next day's update once before it went through just fine!
[Captivate General] kingrye:
so....

Like many of you i am getting this notification to update and dont want to as i am rooted and where i want to be :)

So what is the proper method to ignore the message and get the notification bar icon to go away?
[Captivate General] gk527:
Download Kies mini, and do the update there. You'll need to re-root it, then startup whatever apps afterwards that need root access and allow it again, but that's it.

I was rooted, and at one point several weeks ago I reloaded with ODIN and I was able to update Kies mini. As you'll see in an above post, mine failed the first time, I followed the instructions in the screenshot, and the second time it worked no problem.
[Captivate General] Ikonomi:
Let me just throw my hat in the ring and say that I NEVER received an update text from AT&T, before or after installing JH7 OTA. This rollout has been quite a cluster.

Let's hope they learn from this when it comes time to push JI6.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Anderdroid:
Quick stupid useless question. Does anyone know the name of the default notification sound?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaliLove310:
Default notification is called "On the Hunt"
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] BigNate:
i want to start making apps for android but dont know where to stat i have the sdk on my desktop but thats about it. If someone could please help me or push me in the next step please do so.
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] mat431:
Just go to the dev guide on the Android website to start making your first Hello World app. As for language, Android (I could be wrong) uses Java. Again, I could be wrong.
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] elindemann:
Indeed, Android uses Java. I'd suggest learning it before attempting to program for Android or else you'll feel like it's gonna be too difficult. There's plenty of books on Java, and some powerful Google searching will lead you to step-by-step guides to learning Java.

Also, go through the Android Dev Center for a lot of information. There's plenty of guides there on things like 'how to design your app to flow with the overall android feel' and 'designing icons to fit general android homescreen look'.

You're gonna want to download Eclipse for Java Programming. It's a free Java development environment much like Dreamweaver and Visual Studio are for web development.

Oh, and PLAN! Like any good development project, your project will not get anywhere if you don't know where to start and when to end it.

Plan first. Then plan the planned elements. Java is object-based programming, and just like building a house each object needs to be solid or else it'll crumble to pieces.
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] Enhdojo:
Same here. Thx for the advice.
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] DaoMingJin:
Actually, you're doing things the hard HARD ...HARD way....

if you want to develop apps for android, Titanium Mobile (appcelerator.com) is the best way to go. It takes far less time to learn JavaScript , CSS and HTML then it does to learn pure JAVA, and then learn to implement Android's API.

There are a few things that Titanium Mobile can't do, but they are always working on it to make it better. And of course - it's free :D

I've made a few apps using it. Including an HTML eBook reader, Chinese Flashcard App, and a Simple Chat Client.

Their JavaScript API takes a bit to get used to, but after that, you can easily spit out a simple app in about a day or so.

I have a web-app Template that lets me dump a Web-app (html/css/js) into a project, and spits out a nice new shiny Android app ready for the market.... I also wrote code that lets you access the Menu Button on android too. So it's not like using PhoneGap where it's just a Browser session with an icon on your phone.

PM me if you're interested, and i'll show you everything i learned about Titanium Mobile so far (i'm still learning actually). Or if you want an app done, i can do it for you... free if it's easy enough
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] Newklearx3:
Wow, I'm very interested. I might check it out.

sent from my pimp hero running Froyo CM6 and the XDA app
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] MoSyncTony:
If you know the C or C++ language you could try out MoSync, depends what you like, some programmers like the level of control and speed you get from C++. If your content with simpler apps then maybe phonegap or appcellerator for you.

I guess that when mobile apps get more sophisticated javascript programs will be just as complex as C++ programs.

Thats my view, but then I like C++ better.

/Tony
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] DaoMingJin:
It really depends on how much control and you really need. If you're going to write games, then you do need speed that C++ and the Native Application Development API on android can give you. If you're writing a social networking app, the speed of C++ would really be an overkill.

As far as i've read, PhoneGap still has a lot of issues. And the build process is a bit more complicated than on Titanium Mobile.

If you're just using the regular Android API to write apps, i don't notice a lot of difference in speed execution between writing it in pure Java, or using Titanium mobile (using native code and UI elements - i don't mean putting everything into a WebView).

The current app that i'm writing now i don't think can be written using Titanium Mobile or PhoneGap (unless i added some native functions and did my own fork of PhoneGap).

More or less, i'm writing an App for Android and JRE/Linux systems that will allow me to enumerate, and access USB status bits, and USB data frames of a given USB device, and then allowing that USB device to be accessed through a TCP or UDP connection.

I might be able to do this with Titanium Mobile, but i don't think i can. As the only files you're allowed to access are on the SD card, application data directory, and temp directory.... i think there's one other place you're allowed to access too, but i never used it. However later today i might just try to see if i can access the /Dev/DSP01 (aka sound card) on an android device. If i can, i think i could write it using titanium mobile. I'm already halfway done with this app in pure java, so i wouldn't actually rewrite it in Titanium Mobile now.
[Online Courses, Schools, and Other External Resour] Enhdojo:
Thanx mate!