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[Captivate Accessories] RDI:
To get USB/AC under Settings / About Phone / Status from a USB Car Plug, you need 2 things: 1) A Car Plug with enough Amps (I use a model that has up to 2100mA in a single USB socket. Even runs & charges Android Tablets at same time) 2) a correctly wired USB to microUSB cable. (same place that sells the high power USB plug has this cable)

When I use these two together with my Captivate, it charges very quickly.

By the way, both Gigabit and Asrock motherboards are shipping motherboards with Always on, high power, USB ports.
[Captivate Accessories] Shoey Peachew:
That's incorrect. Unless, the dock the OP uses requires it somehow. It's much easier to short the Data connectors on the larger end of a standard USB to Micro USB cable to trigger the phone for AC Charging. It takes less than 2 minutes and requires no wire splicing. Linky
[Captivate Accessories] boomerod:
Damn, it ain't free no more!
[Captivate Accessories] nappent:
I'm sure someone could post the apk for us to download. Or send it to me and I can host it for free on a site of mine... the perks of working for a web hosting company.
[Captivate Accessories] nlancaster:
While exploring options on the Samsung car dock, I found that there is a circuit board inside. I did not pay enough attention to notice if there were any components on the baord. I will take it apart when i get home and find out.
[Captivate Accessories] jwkicklighter:
Watch yourself buddy, this is against forum rules.

Sent from my Samsung Captivate
[Captivate Accessories] tiuk:
Any chance you've had a look at this? would love to mod my car charger to trigger car dock for tasker. Would be awesome if I could also make a desk dock for work/bedside dependent on time of day.
[Captivate Accessories] tiuk:
If anyone else wants to know, learned from another thread it's 1k and 619k between pins 4 and 5 for desk and car, respectively.
[Captivate Accessories] nlancaster:
sorry, no i had not got a look at the board in the car dock. Looks like you found the solution already. have you tried it yet?
[Captivate Accessories] tiuk:
Desk worked, haven't tried car yet since I don't have the right combination of resistors.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
How have you gone about attaching the resistor? USB cables only have 4 wires, so you couldn't really splice into the cable and put the resistor there. I'm not quite sure how you'd do the delicate surgery on the connector being that small...

Pin 5 only exists in the connector, not in the actual cable, right?

I could easily see shorting pin 4 to 5, but not seing how it would be easy to tap in wherever to get the resistor in there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
[Captivate Accessories] stud421:
Well Poo... =(

Tasker sounded like such a good app but I am on the Freebie train. Tasker is not free anymore on the Market. If someone finds the free version please let me know.
[Captivate Accessories] TRusselo:
its amazing what you can find on google.... "####### .apk"
[Captivate Accessories] TRusselo:
the metal connector IS connected at both ends by the metal sheilding that surrounds the 4 wires down the length of the wire. it is the 5th wire and it is necessary to be connected.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
Ah, sweet, so just short black to the shielding braid for "AC charger" or via resistor for dock?
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
I tried hacking up a dongle to emulate the car dock, with no real success.

619k resistor soldered up between the shield braid & the black wire (pin 4, ground). An ohm meeter confirms everything is all hooked up correctly (619k between shield & pin 4). However when I plug in my phone I either get AC charging, or USB charging depending on weather or not I short the 2 data pins/wires.

Shouldn't Home Screen > Options > About Phone > Status. Show up as Car Dock or something?

Any suggestions on what I'm missing?

On a side note if anybody in the Colorado Springs area needs some 619k ohm resistors OEM parts had a bag of 200 for a couple bucks (cheaper than just the shipping to get 10 off Amazon or elsewhere), I have some to spare.
[Captivate Accessories] sherbang:
Thanks for this.

I've been able to get both to work, however for the car I had to use a 680k resistor AND tie Pin 3 to ground.

Still Having issues with this.. Need to do some further testing..
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
No luck shorting pin 3 (green) to ground, that just set it to USB instead of AC charging when you tie green & white together.

Need to try a little bit more resistance.

Got fed up with the pile of sticky wires & what not. I'm grabbing a few more parts online & digging out my old breadboarding stuff. Will get back to this here in a few days with better tools.
[Captivate Accessories] tiuk:
The resistor needs to bridge pins 4 and 5, not 4 and shield.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
From Wikipedia...

USB 1.x/2.0 Mini/Micro pinning

Pin	Name	Cable color	Description

1	VBUS	Red	+5 V

2	D−	White	Data −

3	D+	Green	Data +

4	ID	none	permits distinction of A plug from B plug * A plug: connected to Signal Ground * B plug: not connected

5	GND	Black	Signal Ground

Is pin 4 connected to shield or nothing at all? In my couple of test cables they have only had R/B/W/G & shield. I've got a http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10031 coming. Is something like this going to be the only realistic way to access pin 4?
[Captivate Accessories] sherbang:
Ok, I'm giving up on this for now.

I was not able to get any response with 560k, 619k or 820k. I was able to get it to trigger car mode with 680k however it was inconsistent.

I've now discovered that I have some solder inside the microusb connector I've been testing with that's shorting the data pins together. I suspect this might have been part of my problem. I cut open another cable, and this connector doesn't have pin4 exposed so I'm done for now.

You definitely need to work on the microusb end of the cable - can't count on the shield being connected to one of the pins.
[Captivate Accessories] CuriousTech:
I just got one and can verify it's a 619K (by resistor marking 77D) connected between ground and ID. No other pins need anything connected, even power. If that helps. ;)
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
Thanks, will do up a guide on setting up a DIY one once I get my breakout board, maybe within a week or so.
[Captivate Accessories] tiuk:
If you cut away the insulation around the connector it's pretty easy to solder to pin 5.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
The cable I had the connector sealed up with solder, so no terribly easy access... and it would have been cramped. Luckily my USB MicroB Plug Breakout Board showed up today.

I tried a quick little experiment by quickly doing an ugly job of jamming in a 619k ohm resistor between pins 4 & 5...

Just the resistor with no power or anything else connected resulted in.

Shorting the data pins did nothing, not that I expected it to until I hooked up power. Adding +5v and a ground got me AC charging & "Car Mode Activated". No sign of the always annoying (at least for just charging in car mode) "USB Connected" & "USB debugging connected" taskbar items.

Due to the crappy GPS I recently picked up a Bluetooth GPS, so I'm thinking about making a custom form fitting car mount for the phone with the GPS stuck to the back. Probably going to tap a small mini USB cable off this breakout board to power the GPS & minimize the number of cables running across my dash. Hopefully an iPad 2.1@ power supply should charge both the phone & GPS off the same wire.

I use Setting Profiles to fiddle with settings or launch programs depending on conditions. One of the triggers can be "in car dock" so hopefully that will work & I'll be using that to kick off car activities.
[Captivate Accessories] lownox:
The car charger from my wife's LG bt earbud makes my cappy go to USB mode... so they do exist. Do you want the pn from the adapter?
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
USB mode is easy, it's the default unless you short the data pins or put in resistors for dock mode.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
Update on the cradle

Well, I melted up some friendly plastic & made a cradle for my phone. Not sure if I'm going to keep my first try as it's a bit tight.

Lessons learned:

Wrapping your phone in 1 layer of tinfoil is not enough, the cradle turns out way to tight

Cover up the power/volume buttons, camera lens & speaker grille next to the lens with something stiff & bulky, otherwise you get lumps on the cradle that make it REALLY hard to get the phone out

Using saran wrap or something clear would prevent you from covering up way to much of the screen accidentally

Friendly plastic drills ok (leaves lots of jagged twisted bits, but you can cut those off with a knife

You can not sand or use a dremmel to grind off material, point a power tool at it, and it melts

You can use a belt sander or dremmel to heat up bits of the dock and then move or remove melted plastic around with your fingers or pliers

My belt sander is really dirty and makes the nice white plastic look like ass (planning on covering it with bondo for a smooth workable finish & painting, so not really a problem)

I have been thinking about how best to attach the cradle to one of my windshield mounts, but haven't gotten too far. Mostly because I'm not sure if I'm going to try and rebuild the cradle almost entirely or not.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
I checked Hobby Lobby & Michael's here in Colorado Springs, no luck. One of the 2 had Friendly Plastic strips, but they are a LOT more expensive than the granules & not nearly as appropriate for this project. I ended up ordering AMACO Friendly Plastic Pellets, 28-Ounce, Ivory from Amazon online. I got the 28oz bottle & barely made a dent in it after making the dock & wrapping a couple of metal spikes like a corn dog, so you could easily do with a much smaller bottle.

Technically it's called Polycaprolactone and if you look at the Wikipedia article, there are several other vendors for the material out there. I goggled around and found a few price comparisons 'n stuff, then figured AMACO's Friendly Plastic was good enough.

My wife keeps telling me I should get some polymer clay and use that. Most of those require heating to just under 300 degrees in the oven or something, and I don't wan to melt the cables & plugs. Some of it can be air dried/cured I guess, but I'm worried about it distorting, or shrinking. Not sure how flexible it is either. I can squeeze the sides of my dock so far in well over a centimeter with no ill effects. That gives you some good wiggle room to pull the phone out but still get a good grip on it with the dock. Not sure if I could have gotten my phone out when I first molded the plastic on it, as it was, I was pretty scared & had had a hard time getting my phone out the first time.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
I decided to melt down my first try and restart from scratch. I wrapped my phone with some 3x5 index cards & taped them tight before wrapping things in tinfoil this time. That covered up the camera, buttons & other divots and gave me the extra little clearance I needed. This one is also a bit short, so I can get a grip on the bottom of the phone & pull it out.

I then applied a thin layer of bondo (bondo is the pink stuff, white/greyish stuff is the friendly plastic) to the dock. The bondo is MUCH easier to sand down to approximately the right shape & smooth finish. However I've found the bondo is also noticeably stiffer, which isn't ideal for gripping the phone. A majority of the bondo was then sanded off in the course of getting the right smooth shape.

I picked up a piece of flat plastic from another busted phone mount, sanded it down to the right thickness & cut the right key holes in to fit the prongs on my good Arkon mount. I then built up about a quarter inch of friendly plastic around the key holes & then stuck the whole thing to the back of the cradle by heating up the plastic on both sides. You can see the GPS dangling off the end of the 6" mini USB cable.

I'm debating how much effort I want to put into getting a nice smooth finish & fixing a couple chips in the bondo before I paint it. We'll see how motivated I am. Probably going to just use some velcro strips to mount my GPS to the back of the cradle.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
WARNING!!!

Do not use Friendly Plastic for a car mount.

Today it didn't even make it up to 70 degrees Fahrenheit here in Colorado Springs, and my mount started melting up around the camera hole while attached to my dash in the parking lot at work.

Granted I painted mine black, which will heat it up a little more than a light color, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that much better off & would end up melting soon enough.

Back to the drawing board to figure out what material to try next. May make this one into a desk dock now (will be annoying to have the car resistor in it, may just reverse the 2 resistors & use desk resistors for the car).
[Captivate Accessories] CuriousTech:
Try Dynatron. It's an epoxy type material made by Bondo for plastic bumper repair, but not as runny as epoxy resin. It's also sandable, paintable and resists heat and it's a nice black.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
The problem with using anything other than the friendly plastic is easily getting the right fit by just packing the material around the dock. The Friendly Plastic you just have to smear it on your phone after you wrap it in plastic wrap or tin foil or something. It comes off pretty easily if you make a mistake or what not. Not sure I'm willing to do that with bondo or fiberglass as it would be harder to get off.

Also considering just making this out of wood. hardboard back panel with a couple rails attached to wrap around the sides. I've got a router, so getting a good profile on the side rails shouldn't be that hard.
[Captivate Accessories] ronkoni:
i want to try this, so I am looking for the parts and I see several different watts ratings.

I know next to nothing about electronics, so how many watts are needed for the 619k, 1k and while I am at it, the 301k(for jig)?

Thanks
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
Next to nothing. Mine were 1/4 or 1/8th of a watt resistors.

Ohms law.... http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp

Assuming it's putting out 5v (USB voltage, could easily be less) divided by 619000 = 0.00001 amps... 5v times 0.00001 amps = 0.00005 watts of power being dissipated by that resistor.

Even if you take the lowest resistance resistor (the 1k ohm one) which would yield the most current you get 0.005 amps or 0.025 watts, way less than 1/8th of a watt, which is the smallest resistor you're likely to see without getting surface mount stuff that won't really work on the breakout board I was using.

It's been a while, but I think all the math is correct, no guarantees. Best I can guarantee is it worked for me.
[Captivate Accessories] ronkoni:
Thank you.

Parts are on the way. :)
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
If anybody wants to PayPal (Devin.Noel@Gmail.com) $3 to me I can send out 10 619k ohm resistors. Think they are 1/4 or 1/8 watt +-2%. I got 200 from a local electronics dealer (think Goodwill meets Radio Shack) for what I'd have paid online.

I can vouch they are the right ones for the car dock.
[Captivate Accessories] TRusselo:
watts arent 'needed'. The wattage rating is the maximum wattage it can handle. wattage changes with the voltage and/or amperage, depending on how the circuit operates. but you dont need to worry about that. with the math stated in the post under yours, you arent going to come close. voltage and amperage affect each-other and therefore wattage too. Resistance (ohms) is the only constant in ANY circuit. And in this part of the circuit of the USB is a constant 5v in this situation.

basically just worry about the ohms adding up to the correct value.
[Captivate Accessories] CuriousTech:
+1 Remember, this doesn't require USB power. It's actually a very low voltage polling ADC seperate from the USB charging/data circuitry. It's takes millivolts and microamps to perform the operation so everyone's correct. :)
[Captivate Accessories] presines:
For material, I am looking into SUGRU. I´m not sure it will hold by its own, but it can be used to cover a harder material as lining, providing a softer fit.
[Captivate Accessories] Darkshado:
d3v14n7 : Do you think this technique would work on foam? Also, what about wrapping the phone in plastic film (saran wrap) and applying the fiberglass on that?
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
What do you mean on foam?

Fiberglass might work, but I'd be very careful. It gets kind of warm as the epoxy cures, and also with my expediences of barely being able to get my phone out of the mount, it would be a lot worse with fiberglass.
[Captivate Accessories] AdamOutler:
Use a modified case as a dock for the phone. If you've got a case, use a belt-clip designed for your case as a mount. I made one for my windshield in my car like that.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
I agree, a lot safer & probably more secure. Just fiberglass (or other mounting methods) a case rather than the phone (even if it is covered in plastic wrap or something).
[Captivate Accessories] Darkshado:
Note: I'm looking at building a desktop dock/cradle that'll trigger the clock application.

Fallon: I mean by using the short-strand body filler (unless someone knows of a cheaper way to get a small batch of fiberglass and resin) and applying it on a foam core, be it expanded polystyrene (as seen in countless product wrappers) or something a bit denser like home insulating foam. I know the technique is used in many composite construction processes, I'm just wondering about that specific product.

The above would be to build a base that would help position the phone at a nice angle. I'd probably weight it down at the bottom as well.

You concern about getting the phone out are duly noted. Although in this setup I wouldn't need the sort of wraparound a car application does.
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
The only thing special to trigger the car/desk dock is the resistor between a couple of the pins.

Ya, the foam would be good as a forming material for Bondo or fiberglass. Some solvents will eat up certain foams though.
[Captivate Accessories] Darkshado:
I did some more research and it turns out that polystyrene foams are not compatible with Bondo and the like.

According to some cosplayers who found this out the hard way, urethane foams on the other hand seem to work just fine.

In any case, I also found another post where someone used polymer clay (Fimo, Sculpey, etc) to make its docking station.

I already have a generic car dock that works very well so I'm in no rush to try this, but the material is heat resistant enough for any dashboard application. (I'm not sure about brittleness, but there are different clays available as well as reinforcement possibilities.)

I made my own with a docking mode resistor. I'll start another thread with a couple of pictures in the Nexus S forum to show off my work.

Goodbye,

Darkshado
[Captivate Accessories] tking0036:
If you use the samsung...

I have the samsung desktop dock and it picks up that it is in docked mode. I believe it is a pinout thing because i can do both desk and car home.
[Captivate Accessories] gunmetal83:
well i made a dock station or in the real sense a charging stand; which will display the clock for me while i sleep at night...

i tried to attch a 1k resistor between wire 4 and 5 as instructed but dint work for me

in anycase i doubt the docking mode is any different than the charging mode...

here is a picture

if anybody is interested, id make a tutorial of the steps

thanks and stay blessed
[Captivate Accessories] Easy700:
Modify the charger instead of the cable?

With the car charger, could you add the required resistor inside the car charger (i.e. the cigarette lighter part) and then you would have to worry about messy cables. You could use any cable then.

Maybe I'm missing something here?
[Captivate Accessories] Fallon:
No, USB cables only have 4 wires, you would need 5. the ID pin only exists at the end of the cable.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] 3roz:
hi my every one.. i have a motorola droid and . the meid is in all zeros.. i need to put back the original esn so i can replace my verizon phone with this one.. cuz my other droid got wet..

but i cant get it to go on dm mode.. do any one of you guys.. have something that can help me out?

thanks
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] IthsSunnyB:
##7764726 "do this from the dial pad should spell PROGRAM"

Verification code is 000000

Hope that helps...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] 3roz:
nope.. it did nop help me out.. but thanks
[Click General] Chrizzieej:
Help!! I've installed a new Hboot version but after a reboot I only saw a pictory for a couple of seconds and then my phone went dead. Now I can't get it on anymore... what can I do? :(
[Click General] Chrizzieej:
It won't even go into recovery! It only gives me a orange led because it's charging. Is there any way to get my phone to work? Please help...
[Click General] Mithun_srk05:
Have you created a gold card? Can you go to the Hboot or fastboot menu? U can get the phone working if you have a gold card....
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lefeudedieu:
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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Nullstring:
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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lefeudedieu:
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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Nullstring:
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[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jontorres:
Titanium Backup says "error could not acquire root", yet I "am" rooted???

Ok, so my v2.1 evo was rooted using Unrevoked 3.21, I install Titanium Backup this morning and when I launch it an error comes up that says "Sorry, I could not acquire root privileges. This application will not work. Please verify that your rom is rooted and includes busy box and try again."

Whats the deal wit this error? Unrevoked said it was succesful.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruSlide:
did you download busybox? when you open TB hit the problems? button. download busy box and try again.

you can also verify root by downloading terminal emulator and opening it. when its open type SU and hit enter. # means root. $ means no root.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TruSlide:
Be weary. I used unrevoked3 for mac on a froyo Evo. I'm having some issues currently. Be careful before you proceed. You should download ROM manager as well. Once you download busybox perform your backup. A friend recommended Appbrain over Titanium Backup. Once your done with your back up, reboot into the bootloader and try to go into recovery to perform a nandroid backup. If you select recovery and it takes you to the htcevo 4g white screen and nothing happens, you're having the same issue as i am. I wouldn't recommend flashing any radios or roms yet. I'm working with some other members to try to figure this issue out. Apparently this is why other experts don't like unrevoked3.

There might be a missing pc36img or unrevoked forever might need to be install, but I don't want to lock my phone into root with unrevoked. From my understanding, if you use unrevoked forever, you wont be able to unroot.