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[G2 and Desire Z General] HamNCheese:
Actually your'e wrong on a couple of points here...

First off, the G2 (and MyTouch HD) have only been advertised to do 14mbps. The 21mbps upgrade does not happen until next year.

Second, just because you have a certain connection, that doesn't mean you can pull that much bandwidth from the internet. There are many obstacles: Traffic on your local cell, insufficient backhaul bandwidth to the tower, any connectivity issues between your tower and the other end of the connection, etc.

This applies to any sort of service, cable, dsl, mobile, etc: Just because you have X mbps connection does not mean that you will see X mbps to every site on the web.

On DSL, for example, you are less limited by others in your area, you have a 1:1 connection that terminates at your local central office. But on Cable or Wireless, you are sharing the available bandwidth X:1 with all others in your "neighborhood" (cable) or cell (wireless).

So your actual speed depends on many factors. Take speed tests with a grain of salt, the bigger issue for mobile is latency, not bandwidth. All the bandwidth in the world still makes a 300ms round-trip time "feel" slow.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Esteef:
Same here, I seem to get the best reception around 137th Ave and Coral way actually. (A go there alot to eat at some place)

And the speeds there are almost at 1MB/sec (Yes i'm saying 1MegaByte not megabit)

But a few hundred feet west of that spot and I'm already running on Edge. O_O
[G2 and Desire Z General] HamNCheese:
Actually, there is no real 4G network yet. Sprint, like T-Mobile, have used the term 4G for marketing purposes.

Here's a good read on Sprint's forums:

http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/141144

With the HSPA+ infrastructure upgrades, T-Mobile also gained the ability for HSDPA to cap at 7.2mbps. So in reality, you might see 6+mbps.

As for the coverage in urban areas, Verizon's frequency is better suited to penetrate buildings and urban environments. This is why they have been so successful in cities like NYC, while GSM-based providers have trouble with weak spots around any given corner.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
The stock "signal indicator" on the notification bar will never display 3G on the G2.

RTFM

I'm in the Tampa area, and I get 3-4Mbps d/l speeds. Occasionally I will get 8 or 9Mbps down. Upload speeds are consistently 1.5Mbps.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ilikepu:
in random areas north of hollywood blvd i get 7 megs on my TP2 at my house i get 3 megs
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lockeskidney:
went to a tmobile store last week and got on a webconnect rocket 2.0 stick in Miami, FL. very disappointing. This area is supposed to be HSPA+

confused i went over the vibrant and pulled these
[G2 and Desire Z General] popokrew:
I'm in the west Miramar area and I did a speed test right in the store when I got the phone. Forgot what I got (maybe 1m) and I asked the salesman right there what was up. Her response?

"This area has a lot of users"

BS... then shouldn't you upgrade???
[EVO 4G Accessories] chevy454:
anyone have experience with this case?..if so how good is it

http://http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-Simple-Click-On-Case-with-Screen-Protector-Rubberized-White-P88424.htm
[EVO 4G Accessories] liv4evr:
Bad link

Infected Htc Evo
[EVO 4G Accessories] mizzos4:
I used to have one. Sold it after a few days to a friend. Realized I didn't really like the gloss shine which also made it slippery. Doesn't offer much protection and I believe my friend ended up getting a Seidio Pt case instead.
[EVO 4G Accessories] techcrazy:
edge to edge perfect fit......provide great protection...like it
[EVO 4G Accessories] LoungeLizard:
My wife has an Amzer case and she loves it

sent from my HTC Evo
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
What is the best rom for the evo like batterie life ect.....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Cyanogen with snap 7.6 has provided me with excellent battery life. I was getting 3 hrs of battery life on Ava's rom + King's kernel 10 CFS...

Cyanogen's I get super battery life.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Thanks man and it wont let me flash it??
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deathsled:
you were doing something wrong, lol
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
Hi everyone so I've had my evo for about 2 weeks now I slightly see some light were some people have had real big issues should I be worried...i mean you really have to be looking for it..i didn't even know wheee thee light was coming through.also at the bottom of the screen if you tilt the phone I can see the light from the menu buttons is this normal?
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
I think its normal, mine does it. I watched unboxing and reviews of EVOs on YouTube and it was pointed on on them too. I have a rubber around mine so the light leak is covered. I can also see the light leds if I turn the phone and look down from the screen. Its an obvious design flaw, im surprised they let it go like that.
[EVO 4G General] achllles:
Normal.

I was about to go to sprint store for a exchange and also saw YouTube ones shown had same problems. I guess It's normal for HTC products...

Just hope dust going into it end up inside the lcd.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Doesn't bother me...
[EVO 4G General] DarkManX4lf:
Yep I have some light leakage too on the bottom. It's normal...
[EVO 4G General] Blitzpwnage:
Me too its not that distracting I don't hold my phone at an angle that often.
[EVO 4G General] verse187:
I think all,the evos are like this
[EVO 4G General] phatmanxxl:
Lol neither do I. It dosent bother me.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikea3000:
Overall i am pleased with the update, but i believe i uncovered an issue that others are expriencing as well.

When i have a second line calling me the screen does not wake up allowing me to switch to the second call. In the past, when a second call comes in the proximity sensor would wake the screen and allow me to take or reject the call. Now i cant even see who is calling. Since i use the phone for business, this is a big, big issue. It still works but the screen only wakes up after like the third ring, whereas before it would wake up immediately Anyone else experience this? I tried this on my buddies Vibrant and its the same thing.

So the question to you guys is how do i get the old dialer app back which i believe controls call waiting. Does anyone else know a way around this annoying issue?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] down8:
Is there something stopping you from pressing the power button to turn the screen on when you hear the call waiting beep?

The prox sensor is not perfect.

-bZj

_____

-sent from my Samsung Vibrant via XDApp
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nermie:
Obviously, if it was perfect this thread wouldn't exist.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikea3000:
Thank u. I tried the power button, but unfortunately it does not wake the screen.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 00sivan:
bump - me too!

pressing the power button results in a lagged response. that is: call waiting call comes in, screen is black. press the button screen stays black. 5-6 seconds pass and then the screen comes on finally and shuts right back off. whereas NOT pressing the power button, the screen stays black for 5-6 seconds and then comes on and stays on.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dammit2Hell:
I am experiencing this problem too. Just started since coming from stock to JI6.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] byt3b0mb:
bump... me too, but this happened on a friend of mine's vibrant who was using stock JI6 from the ota, no root nothing and every incoming call if she is on a call has the same behavior.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikea3000:
This issue has gotten so annoying for me, I have unfortunately decided to sell the phone. I loved it, but is failed in the function I use it most as, a phone. Got a g2. Not as glamorous as the vibrant, but it works as a phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Bbe1367:
I'm currently using netspeeds so I can see what network I'm running, utms edge etc, any others out there I can use?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] dynamikd:
Nets widget works good a well.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] mtl171:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/mobile-signal-widget/com.empirical.widget.signal

next time please use the search bar.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] elracing21:
No need to be a douche, I'm sure he wants to see other types of widgets that people are using instead of what he has/has seen.

Any who That one right there doesn't show when your on HSPA+
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Bugattixda:
Try Signal Strength Widget

This was the best one I've found so far.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] SuperDave81:
I like signal strength widget and phono is tight...

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/widget-to-show-off-your-operator-phono-for-android/
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] innerlight:
You could also try battery monitor. In one of the menus you are able to ping your phone and the info should come up about what your network is.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] marduk79:
Browsing through Craigslist for an HD2 I came across multiple posts of people that are offering to upgrade the HD2 to winmo 6.5.x or Android for a fee of anywhere from $30-$60 dollars. I don't think it's right for people to be making a profit from something that they did not create. I highly doubt that they are taking part of the fee that they charge and donating it to the developers for their work. I've been flagging their posts in hopes that they get removed and will post information as to how to do install Androids themselves for free. I don't know if it's appropriate to ask you to do the same in your local cities and encourage the public to donate to the developers themselves instead of paying the $30-$60 dollars to someone that has done nothing to earn them except for ripping off the work of someone else. If I was a chef and stayed up for countless hours, missed family time and what not and found out that someone was making money off my work, i'd be livid. Just wanted to make you guys aware of a situation that is unacceptable:mad:.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 18.4009:
I don't personally feel that by offering to set someones phone up with all the bells and whistles for a fee is wrong.

If a person doesn't feel like reading up and spending time learning how to setup their phone and wants to pay someone to do it for them that is there choice.

Saying that the person setting the phone up for them isn't right because they are collecting a fee to set up "open source" and freely distributed software onto there phone to save someone who is busy and doesn't have the time to spend hours reading on this forum to accomplish this is just silly.

Yeah all us phone junkies who don't have anything else better to do then sit on XDA and read and learn about our (hobby) for hours on end may seem normal to you and I but a HUGE portion of people do not have the time or wish to waste time on this when they can pay someone to have a tricked out phone to show off at the office.

And beyond that..the economy is in the toilet. People are trying to make a buck any possible way they can to feed themselves.

I have been buying HD2's when I see them cheap on craigslist and bringing them home, tricking them out and then reselling them for $100 to $150 profit for awhile now.

it has kicked in some extra income nicely helping buy kids school cloths, wife a nice dinner, etc etc

Just my two cents.

18.4009
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] jose makalolot:
+1... Unless these guys are giving donations to the chefs. These guys are also a lot here in Florida. That's why I also give an ad offering a FREE help in putting Android on their HD2.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 18.4009:
Very much not trying to start a flame war here because I believe people have the right to do as they please...

But you must have some serious time on your hands to post on craigslist for free services. I need to reinstall my notebook, would you knock that out for me? :p

Just giving you a hard time.

But on the other issue you brought up. I personally donate to chefs who are elite and really drive some innovation with fixing issues, be it on the vibrant, HD2, nexus, etc. I own and follow six different phones and follow the serious chefs for those products. and kick into the beer fund from time to time. Again just like some who spend there time fixing up a phone for someone who doesn't feel like learning it themselves is really no different then people grabbing roms from here and throwing it on their phones. they technically (could) read, learn and create roms for there own personal use but they rather have someone who is a little smarter do it for them and if they are feeling generous they may kick in a couple bucks as a thank you.

People "don't" have to pay to get their phone tricked out but if they dont feel like spending the time learning it then hell....why not make a buck doing it for them.

18.4009
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mindstormmaster1:
If we lived in a perfect world sure it would be great if they gave part of the profit to the original devs, but we dont and honestly if it get more people into Android is that a bad thing? Most noobs cant even figure out how to put widgets on their screen(had to help a lady do that) so there is no way they can do it themselves even if to us its easy so why not make them happy and the geek can make a little cash. But I agree donating a little to the devs would be the nice thing to do.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] marduk79:
All of you have some very valid points. I just found it frustrating that the dev's would see no money from their own product. At the very least what can happen is that the dev's get introduced to other groups of people who in turn may come here, learn to flash their own rom and eventually donate.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] fx.dcny:
CL service providers

I agree with both perspectives on this issue.

a. Yes, there are sereral ppl providing such services

b. Yes, there are several students openly stating they learned how to do this and will do this for you for pizza money (Like $10-$15, so much for big business ideas)

c. Yes, the ppl doing this should donate to devs periodically.

d. Yes, there are several youtube videos out there showing step by step instructions on how to do the upgrades.

e. Yes, several so called craigslist experts end up bricking customer's phones, leave with buggy setups, incorrect radios, robotic voices :-D

I think its best for devs to continue their hard work for the community that appreciates and benefits from their work is far larger than the select few who go K2. The donations will continue to pour in as the development reaches to immaculate full-featured build solutions. At which point, the devs could consider options for official sales of their roms and android builds.
[Desire Android Development] eViL D::
What's your build.prop look like?

are you changing any of this?

ro.product.brand=htc_wwe

ro.product.name=htc_ace

ro.product.device=ace ------> bravo

ro.product.board=ace

ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi-v7a

ro.product.cpu.abi2=armeabi

ro.product.manufacturer=HTC

ro.product.locale.language=hdpi

ro.product.locale.region=

ro.wifi.channels=

ro.board.platform=msm7x30 ------>qsd8x50
[Desire Android Development] NeoPhyTe.x360:
my build at the moment:

ro.product.model=HTC Desire
ro.product.name=htc_bravo
ro.product.device=bravo
ro.product.board=bravo
ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi-v7a
ro.product.cpu.abi2=armeabi
ro.product.manufacturer=HTC
ro.product.locale.language=hdpi
ro.product.locale.region=
ro.wifi.channels=
ro.board.platform=qsd8k
ro.build.product=bravo
[Desire Android Development] eViL D::
If you can decompile the Desire framework.jar & get that working correctly against the HD framework.jar, that probably will work.

From the looks of enomther's aosp rom, he uses the htc cam from the desire. He grabs the apk, 4 libs, htc.resources & framework.jar.

**and that build.prop will probably work. I currently use ace and msm7x30
[Desire Android Development] mohamed_moscow:
Originally Posted by Fightspit View Post

After flashing the updated RIL for the latest radio (in the Adamg's radio thread), I get the camera partially working, no FC but black screen if I use "Layar" or "BarcodeScanner". It is better than nothing

Originally Posted by dezborders View Post

Hi Neo,

For a while now I have been wondering about resolution - by default, the Desire camera sets itself to the max 5mp resolution on startup - if the HD rom is trying to set the camera to 8mp on launch, this could explain the black screen?

Is there a file or memory location that stores the max resolution or user defined resolution?

Thanks for the hard work and good luck with camera fix...

Originally Posted by ephumuris

I think thats an interesting idea. Maybe baksmali the classes.dex from camera.apk and change the default res if its even stored here?
[Desire Android Development] madman_cro:
cant we just use desire z cam since its 5mpx
[Desire Android Development] hamdir:
even the camera in the Desire Z rom doesn't work, so i doubt the issue is related to camera pixels, especially since even third party camera apps aren't working
[Desire Android Development] iemand12:
I noticed that the last line took quite a while to process, '10-11 04:47:32.289: WARN/HTCCamera(1817): Unknown orientation !!!' Could the unknown orientation have something to do with our camera troubles?
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
How could the orientation matter though? I don't understand what that line means really?

Makes sense that it isn't due to megapixels either as said above Desire Z camera doesn't work too :(

I hope people who know what they are talking about can collaborate. I'm clueless but willing to test anything.

10-11 04:47:29.274: ERROR/CameraThread(1817): open the Camera in start_camera_preview

10-11 04:47:29.315: ERROR/WindowManager(425): return in removeWindowLocked

10-11 04:47:29.555: ERROR/QualcommCameraHardware(249): native_access_parm: error (No such file or directory): fd 17, type 1, length 32, status 0

What do these mean?
[Desire Android Development] nprussell:
Great idea that you've started a dev thread on this.

I have done a little bit of work on trying to figure this out, along with trying the vanilla camera to see what the logcat spewed out with that.

Don't have the results with me now, as I'm at work, but I'll share my findings with you then, and see if I can help in any way.
[Desire Android Development] rahul.pillai:
I'm not a Dev..

But I feel that the Logs from all versions of camera [ASOP, Vanilla Desire and HD Desire] will give an insight.
[Desire Android Development] andycted:
The orientation error could just be caused by the camera gone bonkers since launch and some part of the process trying to determine its orientation, and failing. Or not, obviously.

By the way, did anyone notice lots of audio related errors in the log whenever you launch the camera ? The first time I tried to cut-n-paste stuff I got a lot of them, but it could also be the rest of the rom spitting errors.
[Desire Android Development] baadnewz:
i r not dev nor *nix expert, but since NONE of camera apps are working maybe it has to do with the libs that ALL camera apps require. Should narrow down the posibilities. Just a logical simplistic assumption

So you (I don't say we since I haven't have a clue how) find the libs that all camera apps have in common (well besides using the camera hardware :D) and there should be at least a part of the problem.

Or maybe I'm talking nonsense .. or sense hd :P
[Desire Android Development] Yopsi:
HAHA xD

But actualy I think you may have something there. Tried to run barscanner without success so that means it's something with the actual function of the camera. Something is just not launching it. If I had to guess with my low knowledge of android programming I would say that there is something in the libs that is ruining it for us.
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
Oh the irony!

I believe that whilst most of us know nothing. Simply the discussion of situations and posting of logcats by us lurkers can still be of use.
[Desire Android Development] Beaverman20:
it would be a good idea, but right now they are debugging code they do not know, that means they have to fix it step by step... the idea is that they fix this, get an error pointing somewhere else, then tey fix that, and so on...
[Desire Android Development] ephumuris:
But then that would mean simply replacing the libs and camera apk with our desire ones would fix it. But that's not the case.
[Desire Android Development] K900:
I think there is a way to fix it, though I'm more a linux developer. My idea is to patch the AOSP framework and camera to allow it to be installed separately from the HTC framework. So, the patched camera app calls the patched framework, which calls the camera. Knowing that camera works with AOSP, it will probably work if we pull AOSP camera with dependencies, but call them from other place. This way, we will at least be able to take photos. Might be a little hard to understand, but I hope you guys get it.

Sent from my HDfied HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] hamdir:
Your file is wrong HTC initially made a mistake, you've uploaded the normal desire kernel

Here is the new desire Z kernel source from HTC corrected link, its the same as G2 by the way

http://dl3.htc.com/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/vision-2.6.32-g814e0a1.tar.gz
[Desire Android Development] BlueVD:
Most likely this is due to the fact that the camera hardware fails initialization and thus some structs don't get the info they need...

I still believe that the problem is linked somehow to the kernel. If using libs/drivers from the desire z and/or the original desire still doesn't work there are only a few places to look at for errors. After all the logcats I've seen the problem is with the initialization of the hardware. If you read the comments and hints from the original desire drivers you get a few pointers as to what and how (some errors are briefly explained). I'm not a driver dev, but I'm also bashing my brains out trying to figure this one out.

Good luck to you all and may the force be with us :)

[EDIT:]

Forgot to ask, does anytbody know if HTC *used* the same camera hardware in the DesireZ as the original Desire (maybe someone who's not affraid to open up the phone :) )???

[Second EDIT:]

Here's a DMESG dump... Just go to: pastebin.com/nkcaj9kF

(spam protection... can post links)

Most interesting lines are 26,27 and 34-44... Maybe this will help a bit...
[Desire Android Development] eViL D::
No, it's not the same.
[Desire Android Development] hamdir:
so evil D what have you found out so far?
[Desire Android Development] mohamed_moscow:
thanks, you are right
[Desire Android Development] hamdir:
i'm checking the kernel
[Desire Android Development] BlueVD:
Well, since the hardware isn't the same, we should tell folks to stop playing with the drivers from Desire Z cause that won't help with nothing. Right now I'm working on getting a few linux driver utils to run under android in order to get further info. BTW: all cam related binaries seem to throw a segfault when ran from the shell (other binaries work perfectly though).

[EDIT:]

Anybody out there with stock Froyo on Desire? I'd need the output of lsmod...
[Desire Android Development] hamdir:
i'm on stock froyo how can i get what you need?
[Desire Android Development] casca:
so am I, just say how and what you need.
[Desire Android Development] hamdir:
so far i found added config for the device "Sensor s5k6aafx (Samsung 1.3M) without Autofocus" in drivers\media\video\msm, the drivers

it's weird all the other 5M sensors vendors are a match in both vision and bravo video config
[Desire Android Development] BlueVD:
you need root and terminal emulator or ADB:

run the following in console:

su
lsmod