yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] willgill:
When I first purchased this Telstra HD2 for $900, it was for a specific, WM 6.5 purpose on AT&T. When that WM 6.5 program went away, I figured I had a large paperweight.

Instead the HD2 hardware has proven to be extremely versatile and ahead of its time.

Look at all the different options you have:

WM 6.5 with limitless configurations and customizations.

Android, which is very usable at this stage.

Ubuntu, which I've never loaded, but would assume it would make your HD2 a small tablet style.

and Windows Phone 7?! Amazing.

I have no doubt all of these will be flashable to NAND at a later point. If only we all had more NAND. :mad:
[HD2 General] Phantoml337:
Gentlemen, what about this?

http:// cotulla . pp . ru/leo/WP7S/IMAG0202.jpg
[HD2 General] chn110:
Why pee on it if you can eat it too :D
[HD2 General] t0ny0:
Cause its way more fun :P

I support the "no IOS crap in xda" !!! :)
[HD2 General] krosettli:
do you know what magldr.nbh is for?

here's the file:

http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Android/magldr.rar
[HD2 General] joshkoss:
it's for the developers, and it is password protected so you can't mess with it while they're working on it.

new bootloader
[HD2 General] krosettli:
it's a rar-archive, you can't call this protected ;)
[HD2 General] joshkoss:
well obviously he put a password on it to keep it private as he is working on it.
[HD2 General] mr_brew:
HD3 isn't going to help me unless I'm willing to dump my HD2 and shell out the cash for a HD3. If it's pointless because HD3 is coming out why are you running Android on your HD2 win mobile phone? After all Evo and countless other Android phones are out. I personally think it would be pretty cool to run Win 7 and Android on my HD2. I'm not trying to slam you I just don't get the pointless comment.
[HD2 General] Goron:
I wouldn´t even pee on it, if it burned ^^
[HD2 General] tinuz97:
Ok,here you go lool,wallpaper format :D

Whoops,how do i resize for forum?
[HD2 General] Back Stabbath:
yes...very interested myself..
[HD2 General] mrki_81:
this is AWESOME!!

can't wait to test windows 7
[HD2 General] kdeguy:
about the image posted above, there was a thread on this a few days back. its windows embedded compact, not windows phone 7.

But i am just absolutely thrilled with the news. Massive kudos and respect to Cotulla.
[HD2 General] dubie76:
+1. I thought the whole point of the nand project was to get rid of win-doze and get Android running.
[HD2 General] tkato:
"Win-doze" is a term used to describe WM6.5, WP7 is a completely other os... doesn't even look or operate remotely as WM6.5, in many ways it's more like the iOS.

Besides, be grateful for these developments, having a choice between WM WP Android and Ubuntu (and I heard MeeGoo is on it's way as well) on one phone is amazing.
[HD2 General] mirroalex:
+1, I agree with u.
[HD2 General] dubie76:
In no way did I every say I was ungrateful. I am happy that these amazing guys are doing all this work. I simply saying that I hope that Android doesn't take a back seat now because of win7.
[HD2 General] zkid2010:
Same here, what a disappointment after hanging on so long waiting for a flashable Droid.

I guess for those guys it's more bragging rights not that anything works - well, because as good as these Android builds are, it's still weak sauce running it off an SD card.

So now efforts are going to be re focused on a product that isn't even launched, and has barely started to garner wide-spread developer support...just wow.

Best of luck, kinda completes my HD2 cycle so now I can move onto a REAL android or WP7 device.
[HD2 General] mattfmartin:
Android will still be on internal memory. If and when they do complete win7 that would go on sd card. Can't knock win7 because I haven't tried it yet. Who knows, it might be areally good OS.
[HD2 General] dubie76:
Yeah. I was gonna ditch my HD2 until I saw that work was being done on this project. I held on, and now it seems I might just go get a real Android unless something changes here in the next few weeks.
[HD2 General] tkato:
NAND Android on HD2 will come, just friggin relax... ain't no point on pushing the devs.
[HD2 General] mattfmartin:
WTF are you talking about. You act like they gave up on android. What in the hell do you think the devs in IRC are working on.
[HD2 General] dubie76:
who is pushing the developers? This is a discussion thread. Maybe YOU need to relax. Nothing was ever said to them or directed to them.
[HD2 General] joshkoss:
Chillax everybody :)

Keeep it friendly :cool: We're all in this together
[HD2 General] meptik:
Nobody's paying these devs to do anything. I wouldn't expect them to focus their efforts exclusively on getting Android running on NAND as soon as possible. Staring at one bloody issue for days until you solve it is something you do if you have a boss breathing down your neck. If it's all just for fun, you just focus your attention on something else.

I for one am happy to see WP7 booting in that vid. For me, it shows that magldr is going to be something pretty amazing. Looking forward to seeing what other possibilities it might open up for our HD2 once it's released. :D
[HD2 General] siggehandf:
Some extremely cool stuff in this thread, exciting times ahead.
[HD2 General] pack21:
Cotulla For Nobel Prize Dev!

yes he can!

:D
[HD2 General] Sjuust:
I agree! Also donated Cotulla a beer or two! (10 USD)
[HD2 General] Marvlesz:
+1

:)

..
[HD2 General] krosettli:
new version magldr108.rar on cotullas website. 1.06 is the version mentioned in DFT Android Installer. Maybe 1.08 is final.
[HD2 General] jtk72:
Amazing Work

I've been scanning through here and I've noticed some people complaining about the NAND not being finished and how they are going to go to a new phone. I, for one, am happy with ANYTHING these guys release. I paid a lot of money for my HD2 and it crashed a lot. I loaded up Android (I'm using the PhireMOD) and it runs smoother than the original OS. I hated my phone until these guys started popping out their free mods, built on their own free time.

You get better customer support in this forum than you would if you owned a Samsung Galaxy with it's stock os.

They had Froyo running on the HD2 way before many of the Android handset developers. What can you possibly complain about? If Cotulla wants to work on porting 7 over, let him. Anything that he does benefits us all.

Sorry for the rambling.

Joel
[HD2 General] murattiss:
Hey people this does not mean that android will fall behind, NAND for Android was little closer to success but even Da_G was not expecting to have WM7 in a near time.

The project Cotulla and DFT is working on covers both android and WM7, so the big surprise which is awesome is that besides Android WM7 is nealy available.

These people took WM7 out from nearly impossible to reality.

The developers here already have done a great job with Android and no one should say them one word if they should stop or continue Android development.

What we have available now regarding Android was not even a dream a short time ago. They have done great work until now and we don't have the right to blame them if they do nothing more.
[HD2 General] pack21:
These are the hands of Jesus, bless our HD2.
[HD2 General] tkato:
But you guys know that WP7 is not open source, which means it won't be exactly legal to host these kind of things here.
[HD2 General] zkid2010:
No, most don't get that...yet. :D
[HD2 General] Don001:
Are you serious, well we always have android nand to look forward to, although i will miss windows mobile
[HD2 General] Marvlesz:
I Assure you, its gonna be on the down low, no one's gonna know !;)
[HD2 General] zkid2010:
I don't think anybody's taking anything away from the dev's who have given of their time and talents to get us to where we are now. I certainly wasn't trying to do that, however being a developer myself and understanding this is merely something done in the spare time of these talented folks, splitting focus now to 2 different OS's certainly will slow down the already seemingly stalled android development. To think otherwise is simply naive.

I of course wish them the best of luck and was merely indicating in one of my previous posts that I'm moving on to a handset that I can run 100% functioning droid on. I've been around far long enough to know to pass on first-cut tech like WP7, which will also be launched without cut and paste and true multitasking if I read the tech articles right. Some updates down the road this will be ironed out and I'm sure WP7 will be a smash hit, but for now, Android is the badboy around here and not sure why this is even posted in the droid rom development area because clearly WP7 != Android :D
[HD2 General] Tha:
Xda is for me, playing with a slotmachine.

i just put a card between my f5 button, so it refreshes all the time! :-)

cant wait!

lots of respect go's out for the devs!
[HD2 General] mskip:
Thread moved to HD2 General Forum as it wasnt created for Android discussion.

Mark.
[HD2 General] nkos719:
did cotulla retire from creating the nand in hd2?he hasn't updated the NAND for hd2 for weeks...
[HD2 General] mskip:
As far as I know cotulla has done as much as he can with regards to NAND development. He had everything working on his phone so it was down to other developers who didnt have everything working on theirs to fault find and fine tune. I think those problems have been ironed out now so maybe the kernal is being refined or maybe some other things still have to be done before the project is completed.

Its still being worked on just be patient for a bit longer :)

Mark.
[HD2 General] nicedude_abad:
Thanks for the update mark. Dcordes is also stating on similar lines so it seems it may not be that long a wait for NAND. I am just amazed at the progress made from Feb/Mar 2010 when Dcordes started the Linux thread; Cotulla found the segfault solution in end June and today. WOW Devs! You all ROCK!!!
[HD2 General] Ducter:
You really need to let go all the Jesus, Lord, and God references. At first it was aye, whatever, now its getting insulting to my God.
[HD2 General] chn110:
Actually let's work on QEMU so we can run Android and iOS (or your favorite OS combinations) at the same time.

VMWare had a demo a while ago showing this is possible on Nokia N700 which is a much less capable machine -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNo6pn-dnSQ
[HD2 General] chn110:
And if we don't do it before QEMU runs on an iPhone, the iPhone people will be show you Android running on an iPhone :mad: Not a pretty picture.
[HD2 General] captainhakan:
I was so excited when i saw the video of WP7 running on our HD2 at first time. But then i rather got worried if development in Android might delay due to developer migration to WM7. i really like android once i got used to the brand new os and don't wanna move on yet.
[HD2 General] zkid2010:
Android already runs on an iPhone btw, and has for some time. I had a bootable working Android (donut maybe?) on my 1st gen iphone aka iphone 2G, and AFAIK, that 2G iPhone was the first example of it. I haven't followed that development in quite some time but jus sayin, that unpretty picture exists ;)

Edit - re reading your reply I think you already know this, so, nvm lol
[HD2 General] Back Stabbath:
you can see in the image posted above an option to boot android so not sure what all the people talking about it being abandoned are actually talking about...
[HD2 General] hoss_n2:
+1 on that , he need to stop that
[HD2 General] zkid2010:
Well until it's on my phone, it's just that, an image :D
[HD2 General] Prozar:
+1 on this. They seriously need to stfu about god & cie.
[HD2 General] zkid2010:
follow your own advice first k?

tools...
[HD2 General] zkid2010:
You actually had to come back and edit your garbage further? ffs dude let it go ROFL
[HD2 General] enneract:
no different comparing claiming cortulla to santa claus.

you folks need to relax, especially about your mythology.
[HD2 General] meptik:
Guys... We're all here to discuss the future of our beloved HD2, no need to start some boring religious flamewar. Nobody cares about your beliefs or lack thereof.

Equating people to god/jesus is relatively commonplace. No offense is ever meant, and none should be taken. I'm pretty sure if it bothered your deity, He wouldn't need you to stand up for Him.

Bashing people's beliefs does not show others how "enlightened" you are, it just makes you look like an asshole. Go troll somewhere else.

Let's get back on topic, y'all.
[HD2 General] smeddy:
I agree, you cant compare Cotulla to NRGZ :D
[HD2 General] conantroutman:
thanks man....

that saved me a bit of typing......

:D
[HD2 General] evolutionqy7:
the day that happens im throwing my hd2 under a truck
[HD2 General] mr_brew:
I for one rather like having choices. And being able to boot win mobile and Android based on my need and desire appeals to me. It is the reason I bought the HD2 only a week ago. My Elegancia V5 rom and Mdeejay Android Froyo HD build have been running "Flawlessly" for all my purposes. I question the validity of statements that suggest that Android does "EVERYTHING" better than Window Mobile. Even 6.5. On the Android side I don't miss the Camera and ereader that the Mdeejay Android build don't currently have because I have it only a boot away in Win mobile. I know it's only been a week but my HD2 is performing extremely well and it's only going to get even better. I am well research. I researched the HD2 two weeks before I bought it along with a number of other phones. I heard every horror story out there on the HD2. But I also read it's hardware, software, and firmware specs. And more importantly I saw the large community of brilliant people that have made it their mission to help the HD2 be all that it can be. And I knew it was the phone for me. I dubbed the HD2 "The COMELEON". Thanks to the brilliance of many of those on this site the HD2 is more than living up the hype that is came out with. If I was someone who had a HD2 and sold it for just another Android phone I would be regretting it now. The HD2 is not only still alive and kicking, it is alive and "kicking ass". LOL..
[HD2 General] mskip:
Please watch your language and respect other peoples beliefs.

Try to keep this thread on subject people or it will end up being closed or the offending users being warned.

Thank you, Mark.
[HD2 General] j3.cole:
Help me understand: Why go get a so called good android phone? If I wanted something like that I would get an iphone, sip a chai latte, drive a prius, and tell you how good I am for my 18cents a day to go green! But I am a pc owner, I smoke a cigars, drink regular coffe, and would let my 78 monte carlo run at 12 miles to the gallon (if I had one), while smacking someone in the face with my big ass HTC HD2 for telling me thier iphone is better!

Ok I feel better now. Thanks devs
[HD2 General] Pitchb3nd:
Jesus Christ, Cotulla is like a bootloader ninja... I was thinking of dumping my HD2 for a Desire HD, now I'm holding my horses to see what's next!
[HD2 General] Back Stabbath:
actually i think you understand perfectly. we should hang out sometime from the sound of it...
[HD2 General] Tachi91:
I say they take their time... We all know what happens when software/hardware gets rushed

Patience is a Virtue = All good things come to those who wait

SO WAIT
[HD2 General] 10507:
+1

Patience everyone:)
[HD2 General] tkato:
And just so we be all on the same page, patience isn't a week or a month.
[HD2 General] 10507:
I don't quite care about the release date for NAND, since I am currently running 3 android builds from my SDcard. It has been trouble free for me so far, and I am getting 2.5 days out of my battery running mainly on android.:D:)

Please people, don't rush the developers on their project....
[HD2 General] nrfitchett4:
and the evo came out months ago. Yet y'all are still crying for a nand version of android...:confused:
[HD2 General] captainhakan:
I am a newbie on HTC phones too but not new to xda. I purchased an HD2 for same purpose 15 days ago. The motivation was "DUAL BOOT". So even if WP7 runs succesful on HD2 i still would like to boot it as a second OS. I'd love to use nand android build with a recent WM( preferably WP7 ) at the same time. I know it sounds so like a dream but my 15 days of HD2 and XDA experience showed me anything is possible. I love you developers in here. Please keep em coming ! :)

Edit:

I think it's not pointless to still work on HD2 with new HTC Android device releases because as far as i know u can't multiboot them for now.
[HD2 General] ByteFax:
what is that ?? :eek::eek::eek:

[YOUTUBE]0KciRhnePeU[/YOUTUBE]
[HD2 General] DN41:
thats an hd2 booting android from nand.

DN41
[HD2 General] Ultimaex:
with 100 ppl with strong cpu/gpu and RAR GPU Password Recovery it will be brute forced very fast ;)

i prefer waiting for official release :P
[HD2 General] tkato:
Yet these 100 ppl with strong cpu/gpu won't be able to fix your bricked device ;)

it's always good to be patient, nand will come, in that i'm sure.
[HD2 General] ozkaya:
Passwords are there for a reason. So no one bricks their device and blames them. I happen to know how Cotulla sets passwords for these archives and just for the technical talk, even with GPU acceleration, I calculated the time required as approximately 4.0E80 years. yes, that is 80 zeros next to 4 :) so it's not feasible ;) let's just wait until we all get the public release.
[HD2 General] DN41:
anything else than waiting would be really stupid.

DN41
[HD2 General] zkid2010:
I like how he takes out the sd card for REAL proof lol

*cough* vaporware *cough*

move on, nothing to see here
[HD2 General] adamvanner:
Youre a funny man. nand is no wonder cure, it just makes our android builds weve been running for the last two months a little less power hungry and perhaps faster and potentially more stable.

secondly WM7 is a very locked down OS which has a lot of limitations. Having the ability to run a cooked WM7 rom on an HD2 will open up a lot of the restrictions MS place on the phone. I.e. the HD2 +Wm7 will probably be better than the HD3. This is not to say an HD3 running Android on NAND wont be a good option either... and that should be an absolute doddle!
[HD2 General] adamvanner:
BTW, anyone noticed the image of a cotulla's HD2 running wince 7 Embedded Compact in the WP7 folder of his website?

http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/WP7S/IMAG0202.jpg

I guess this is to WM7 what Ubuntu is to Android, i.e. another front end to the underlying OS kernel

This makes 5/6 OSs that now run on one phone! Who could even concieve of a "quin-boot" phone a few months ago!

WM6.5

Android

Ubuntu

WM7

WINCE7

(MEEGO)
[HD2 General] rr5678:
In this case, it's "wind-blows" :p
[HD2 General] hicks:
And all the other windows based roms on the forum are different.. how?
[HD2 General] Don001:
That's exactly what I was thinking, I believe Android is open source but I'm not to sure if wm65 is open source and all the custom roms which have been developed from it, nothing really to worry about (well I hope)
[HD2 General] Yunabeco:
Android itself is open source, but some of the apps in Android aren't, as far as I know. They're still distributed as part of the ROM.

The WM ROMs are fully proprietary (excluding stuff the chefs add in), and include content that belong to HTC, Microsoft, and/or the operators, if applicable.

HTC has already thrown out a few complaints about its intellectual property available all over the net and has attempted to close down a ROM distribution website some time ago. Nothing new ever since.

Microsoft doesn't exactly seem to care; it's not like they haven't been already paid anyway (part of the price of the device itself is the Windows Mobile license).

That said, I am aware of concerns regarding WP7, as Microsoft treats Windows Phone 7 and Windows Mobile 6 and earlier as totally different products. There is a chance that they'll start to care if WP7 starts to get on non-WP7 phones (as you paid for WM, not WP7; even if you can blame MS for everything, they still have the right to get angry).

In any case, roms aren't generally hosted on xda, and the net has its ways; in the worst case, distribution will be more difficult, but not impossible, as always.
[HD2 General] Don001:
You do learn something new everyday, well we all know windows mobile 7 will e ported and available to the public on the hd2 pretty soon, if you actually think about it, what can Microsoft actually do? As long as they make they millions, they wont really bother harassing little folks! And if they do try messing around with XDA, will make it my personal job to spread the nand wm7 to everyone i know
[HD2 General] conantroutman:
I think that if MS were gonna pick a fight with XDA they would have done it long ago......

Those more likely to try and cause problems would probably be the OEMs.....

However I think they know that without sites like this and those who share their work here that there might be potentially far less people who want their devices.......

Just my two cents lol :p
[HD2 General] Don001:
Spot on mate, I previously had the HTC HD Touch and the only reason i upgraded to the HD2 was because of this site, I knew the developers would deliver and how they have delivered!! Microsoft and HTC and many other brands should thank this site for what they have done but like hell they will hey?!
[HD2 General] zarathustrax:
The reason ms doesn't make a big deal with cooked tons and such is that with our current wm6.5 phones, we already have a license for wm6.5. We are just putting wm6.5 on wm6.5 phones. But when we start putting wp7 on wm6.5 phones, that's a whole new ballpark. When you buy a windows phone, your also buying a license for the windows OS that is on it. They probably won't care about people cooking wp7 find to be put on wp7 phones, but they probably will care when your taking their wp7 and putting it on a phone without a license for wp7. That they will consider theft, and will I'm sure make an issue with.
[HD2 General] Don001:
In that case, just hope the developers have a good defence team! I reckon windows 7 will be a good platform although right now, I'm loving the Android experience I'm getting on the HD2, its absolutely amazing and far more then i expected to get from the developers, they really have come through for us on this one.
[HD2 General] meptik:
Well, quite a lot of roms here are based on WM6.5.1/3/5, a significant improvement over plain 6.5. Also, thanks to this place people are running WM6.5 on phones that officially never got anything above WM6.1. Before that, it was WM6 on WM5 phones. License-wise, it's the same.

I think Microsoft most likely just doesn't care, simply because they're not losing any money from this. They do not sell their OS seperately, so their only income from it is through handset manufacturers. While we might be buying less new phones than most people, Microsoft probably also realizes that we would just move to a different platform if we didn't have the possibility to mess around with custom roms.

I certainly wouldn't have bought my HD2 if I had known I'd be stuck with HTC's wonderful stock offerings.
[HD2 General] Biffy:
Microsoft would have to be truly retarded to prevent WP7 from being ported to the HD2.

Their share in the mobile market is dwindling fast and FAR from guaranteed to recover.

HD2 owners are likely some of the last remaining WM fans and if they're turned away from WP7 now, most will happily run Android on their HD2 instead.
[HD2 General] anush.isaac:
Rightly said!! Its soo damn logical to give HD2 a W7 upgrade just to keep more people with Windows.. Like you say I to would like W7 on my HD2, but if Microsoft doesn't even care why should I?? I am truly loving every bit of Android and Google...
[HD2 General] haksam:
the decision not to port wp7 to hd 2 is PROBABLY A HTC decision since they are the ones trying to sell new gadgets to yous.
[Vibrant General] hospo:
I tried to unroot my phone via OCLF from the market. It went dark, then got the normal Vibrant screen, the the Galaxy S screen, then it went dark again. Now, it just sits. Black screen. All the buttons at the bottom are lit up. :-/

Anyone?
[Vibrant General] Kienz:
Silly question, I know. But did you have a nandroid backup, by any chance?