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[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
This is why this thread should be closed.

Sent from my HTC Vision G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] rmcsc:
I google for a bit the callname of the app (com.android.kineto) and found this logfile of the app running on... a Cliq/XT? It's a MotoBlur device, that's all I could really tell in the few minutes I was reading through. Wish I could read it all but I'm real busy right now. It's dated September 19, a few weeks before T-Mobile and Kineto announced they were going to release the app.

Here's the link: http://bit.ly/aKCuK5
[G2 and Desire Z General] hah2110:
Temp root works fine on the new OTA.

I am neither... But I most certainly got an OTA update. My phone didn't come from T-Mo though

Kineto is the company doing WiFi calling. I can't find the APK on my phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] greensnow:
+1. I've never seen so many grown men get so upset before reading this thread. WAIT 4 ****ING DAYS FOR THE OTA
[G2 and Desire Z General] sheek360:
can't you see this ota is tearing us apart!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Captainkrtek:
Stop the fighting in here, thread closed
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
Been trying *#*#checkin#*#* all morning, and nothing yet for me. Maybe by the time I wake up this afternoon I'll see something. :D

I wish somebody could just post a file up somewhere already. (Damn, I'm an impatient asshole!)

I'm really missing my WiFi tether I had on my N1. Plus some bug fixes would be nice. I really don't care about WiFi calling too much. I find myself making phone calls on my laptop more and more using Gmail. It's pretty slick.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
I know what ya mean! Damn it you know those bastards are just updating and not sharing! Grrr! Hahahha! Yeah, the root script is helpful for tether and the wifi calling is more cool because its uma. Means it handsoff to a tower and you should be able to continue your call from wifi to cell plus you keep your #! Which is nice because my stupid friends call me from gmail and I think they are calling from around the world with those stupid area codes it uses... hahahha!
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
I didn't get anything yet.... hopefully will today. Need wifi calling for my apartment
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
I only use my google voice number anymore, and that's what comes up on caller id when I call from gmail. But I heard the android wifi calling WON'T handoff like UMA: http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-goes-official-on-wi-fi-android-calling I guess I'll just have to wait to get it and find out for myself.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tenbeau:
I have tried checkin twice and both times it comes back failed. This happened to my MT3g and they replaced it saying it was defective. Is this the case with the G2?
[G2 and Desire Z General] robertgibson:
Does anybody know if this OTA resolves the MMS/ slideshow problem?
[G2 and Desire Z General] bfletcher6147:
not foolproof. http://arstechnica.com/open-source/...e-rootkit-its-just-the-same-old-nand-lock.ars
[G2 and Desire Z General] vikramdhani:
Alright so I don't think the official ota is out yr
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
I have been checking in all morning. Success. But no update. :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] itp:
Any reason to think so? OTAs always roll out in waves, and even with checking in, if it's not rolled out to your handset it won't show up.

Unless you have other evidence to say this OTA isn't real...
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
hahhahaha! We know that but that's what they WANT us to think... I know it's not foolproof. I guess I wasn't clear enough...
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddgarcia05:
I wonder if this update could possibly be masking a flaw found in the Desire Z build. It's release was delayed.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WarBird87:
how do you "check" in?
[G2 and Desire Z General] InGeNeTiCs:
False. It has already been stated that this is NOT uma, it's wifi calling. If you leave the wifi area, you drop the call. Everything else will work the same as on uma, except there is no handoff, at least not currently.
[G2 and Desire Z General] harrij4:
Anyone other than the OP get this? I'm curious just how narrow this release is...
[G2 and Desire Z General] pimpmaneaton:
Question on APN settings

For those of you that have recieved the OTA. What apn settings do you have under mobile networks. I have changed mine when I first got it to match my vibrant thinking that would cure the Network droping and seemed to help. But orginally one of the APN's was named FOTA. Just wondering what yours was and also could you please post your APN's since I didn't save my orginal ones. Thanks in advance.
[G2 and Desire Z General] hah2110:
I asked the mod to delete the thread cause I was sick of being accused of being a liar.

Mine was LABELED as a test and I know why. To the OP, did yours say test?
[G2 and Desire Z General] majoraccent:
Does anyone have a link to the OTA update? I'm wondering if it's possible to backport WIFI calling to the Mytouch 3g running Cyanogenmod.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lucidforest:
WiFi calling APK?

Has anyone split off the APK for WiFi calling for us non-G2 users?
[G2 and Desire Z General] reddragon72:
That's what I'm saying. Someone needs to get the addy for the update and then rip it apart. We all know that WIFI calling will be in APK form so it shouldn't be hard to find in the main package and rip out.
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
You should have shown proof like this user did. Then maybe you wouldn't be accused of lieing.
[G2 and Desire Z General] TL24:
Excuse a NOOB but to check for the udpate do I just go to About Phone --> System Updates?
[G2 and Desire Z General] kalipedia:
Wow. First, this is awful. hah2110 - you deserve apologies from each of the people who were rude in that other thread. You were obviously *going* to post proof, and simply hadn't gotten to it. Everyone needs to exercise some patience. Even for this OTA, though I am also looking forward to the tethering fix.

I'm also hoping there's some fix that addresses the reboot-due-to-lost-signal issue. Perhaps with the updated radio? That would be nice.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jorsher:
Checking in and checking for updates is just wasting time. It's not pushed out to everyone at once and as soon as it's available for you, you'll get a notification.

I'm holding off until root or gingerbread...
[G2 and Desire Z General] chewy106:
Actually he said he shouldn't post pics, which led to the flaming, because the statement made no sense at all.

I've done checkin and no updates yet. Perhaps later today.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dyndragon:
if someone gets the OTA update, please logcat it and find the update URL for all...
[G2 and Desire Z General] WarBird87:
any specific reason as to why you want to hold out for this OTA?
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
Not flaming just too much bs is posted on these forums and its hard to tell who's full of crap and who ain't. Plain and simple. You have my apologies but next time back it up with legitimate proof.
[G2 and Desire Z General] [hfm]:
Good, maybe it's also a fix for the random reboots people were having that was seemingly a symptom of signal strength or switching towers.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jorsher:
In case root is found and it utilizes an exploit that is fixed in the OTA. Apparently the version number must be newer than what's installed, and so I wouldn't have the option to downgrade like I did with the G1.
[G2 and Desire Z General] h3ck:
Does anyone know what the real deal is with the wifi calling and whether or not it will consume minutes from your plan? I saw the official tmo press release and it seemed like the indicated that it would still eat up whenever minutes? Just curious cuz if that's the case ill stick to google voice.

Sent from my G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] WarBird87:
oh ok i understand, so basically people that do get this OTA and do download it could possibly be screwing themselves out of "root" if the devs acheive it...
[G2 and Desire Z General] linkage2424:
Like other people have said, you can't get the update until it's ready for your section of the userbase. But if you really want to get it a couple minutes earlier when it IS available, go to your dialler, and type in *#*#checkin#*#* and if typed correctly, a notification will come up that says "checkin succeeded." You can then go to Settings>About Phone>System Updates.

In numbers, the code is: *#*#2432546#*#*

Yup.
[G2 and Desire Z General] StanSimmons:
As has been posted in several other threads, wifi calling WILL use your minutes... unless you still have a grandfathered (or corporate) plan that allows for unlimited wifi calling. If you have an "Even More" or "Even More Plus" plan, then you will be using your minutes.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ShaunMichael80:
Can we say awesome? Just
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mftek1:
how many people have actually received the ota update??
[G2 and Desire Z General] fastludeh22:
Would someone who has already flashed the ota be willing to see if they can flash the offical tmo rom in the development section? If it works it would mean 2 things, 1. we can update and not worry when root is found we can downgrade, and 2. they can then logged the ip or pull the ota from cache.

You can try flashing by downloading rom here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=788489

Rename it PC10IMG.zip and put on root of sdcard. Power on phone holding track pad down. Once in fastboot, use power button to select bootloader. After 20-30 secs it will scan sdcard, and ask if you want to flash it...
[G2 and Desire Z General] ShaunMichael80:
Can someone explain to me the point of wifi calling if it still uses your minutes then? Why the hysteria over wifi calling if it is really no benefit to using your standard minutes?

It seems pointless to me to even have if it uses your plan minutes no?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Stryf3:
Epc.tmobile.data
[G2 and Desire Z General] mcp2009:
Because a lot of people like myself get terrible signal at our homes
[G2 and Desire Z General] hah2110:
It is to help when you don't have coverage. Ie, maybe at home you have low signal, or at the office. I get little reception at airports sometimes so this would help there. The feature works really well. Tethering does as well. It also isn't just an APK, it is other things as well I believe.
[G2 and Desire Z General] eburganjr:
Lack of service. For me, WiFi calling is perfect because I don't get service in my dorm room.
[G2 and Desire Z General] RebelScum75:
It's very useful for people who have poor reception where they live. Other than that, yeah, kinda pointless (unless you have a plan where it does not use your minutes).
[G2 and Desire Z General] swags:
I'll have to remember not to tell anyone when I have Wifi calling. The no signal excuse can come in handy when I don't want to be bothered and have put my phone in airplane mode.
[G2 and Desire Z General] testing567:
Reception in my friend's basement, reception at my school's dorms, reception anywhere indoors.
[G2 and Desire Z General] booloobunny:
Yup. But it can benefit some people who get lousy service in their homes. This would have been enough of a reason for me to stay with T-Mobile.
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkadesi:
Lets not forget Wi-Fi & USB tethering will also be a major update from this OTA. That was one of the major criticism G2 faced in pre-release reviews.

Come to think of it, now that we have wi-fi calling and tethering... whats the point of root? T-Mobile DOESNT charge for tethering as of yet.... so that will not make any difference.

i guess once gingerbread builds start coming out, then it would make sense to get an early taste (those who choose to)
[G2 and Desire Z General] tehtide:
I travel a fair amount to Ireland. Having native WiFi calling on my phone would be far far far cheaper then the current route I have to call home.
[G2 and Desire Z General] batrad:
Anyone on this forum actually got an update ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkadesi:
stryfe and hah did....
[G2 and Desire Z General] WarBird87:
i got " checkin" succeded then my phone restarted and my wallpaper is differnet now... what happened? some of my app icons are the green and white android box to?
[G2 and Desire Z General] GargFunk:
Wifi calling vs UMA wrt SMS

I don't really care about the lack of handoffs (my BB's UMA drops the call when I leave a hotspot anyway), but I was wondering whether wifi calling also handles sms?

Can someone with the update turn off their 3g etc radio and see if they can still receive text messages (not emails!)
[G2 and Desire Z General] ryaninc:
Unless you're calling from Gmail, or have a custom setup using Sipdroid or something, then Google Voice DOES use your carrier minutes. It simply routes calls through Google's ststem, so instead of calling a friend directly, your phone calls a Google number, which then calls your friend. So Voice is not a VOIP system when making calls from your phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WarBird87:
looks like after my restart that happend when i checked in some of my apps are not on my phone any more... like astro, speed test, places, maps, navigation, imdb, FML, Shazam... WTF happend lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
Wen was this update I never got one and my g2 has been on since yesterday??? Will al g2 get this update???
[G2 and Desire Z General] ShaunMichael80:
Well thats dumb... i get 5 bars everywhere in my city as well as hspa+ i got excited thinking it would use wifi and not my minutes :( boooo!
[G2 and Desire Z General] bsnelson:
Yay for the wifi calling, but seriously, wifi tether is the killer app for me. Specifically, I need infrastructure (NOT ad-hoc) wifi tether; if this update adds that, I am all over this phone, root or not. Call me a sissy, but that's the only "killer app that requires root" for me. :) Not that I'd turn down root if it becomes available, but...

If anyone can confirm if the wifi tether can operate in infrastructure mode, please post ASAP. I may have one of these babies before the day is out (and yes, I realize, I probably wouldn't get the update immediately, but I can play with it until I do)

Brad
[G2 and Desire Z General] 21productionz:
If you have your GV number as one of your fav's then it shouldn't use any of your minutes.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sinistersai4d4d:
Wait... so wifi tethering is free and enabled? If so, there goes any reason I had to root.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WarBird87:
weird, i turned my phone on, and then turned it off and everything came back to normal... that was weird...
[G2 and Desire Z General] arich:
Got "checkin suceeded" then nothing lol, no update :'(
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
So with wifi calling yu can call from about anywhere in the world and to anywhere???? If so that is hot!
[G2 and Desire Z General] WarBird87:
it didnt restart your phone? cuz it did with mine and i dont know why lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] DOHCtor:
The OP is from Southern California. I better be getting it soon, too! And for sure, I will do a logcat to find the download link when or if I receive an update notice.
[G2 and Desire Z General] legendary1022:
It doesn't quite work that way. Location has nothing to do with when you will receive it
[G2 and Desire Z General] arich:
lol nope, didn't do a thing
[G2 and Desire Z General] smasraum:
getting rid of all of the ads in games and apps and IPSEC VPN. For lots of other folks, themes and the ability to mix and match features in custom ROMs.
[G2 and Desire Z General] luis86dr:
Checkin suceeded here. No reboot. - out in jersey
[G2 and Desire Z General] smasraum:
As far as I can tell, "checkin" checks to see if any of your apps need updating and checks to see if your phone has an update available. I suspect it's the same as checking for updates in the market AND going into phone settings and checking for updates there. I can't imagine there's much point in it really. I don't think the update shows up as available until just before you're going to get it automatically anyway.

So, when you see a checkin "success" but nothing happens that just means that it checked, and you didn't have any updates available.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sinistersai4d4d:
That was my only reason for rooting. I rooted my G1 so I could speed it up with overclocking and a stripped down OS. Don't need that for the G2.

Far from a casual user, but this will definitely stop me from rooting.

I feel if this is your main concern you should return your phone lol. I kid. But c'mon, if you take off your blinders you'll realize you're just being stubborn about handcent (or chomp). They're far superior to the default app and run just as fast on this hardware.

You deserved that for being vague and cryptic. How hard is it to post a screenshot or just point your webcam at your phone?

Anyway.. i'm def excited for this update. Wifi Tether is my goal since I'm in an HSPA+ coverage are... sometimes my phone signal is faster than my wifi signal... which really just makes me angry at my isp.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mtrausch:
The checkin process issues a checkin to Google:

I/CheckinService( 1613): Preparing to send checkin request

I/EventLogService( 1613): Accumulating logs since 1286898684902

I/CheckinTask( 1613): Sending checkin request (523 bytes)

I/dalvikvm( 1613): Jit: resizing JitTable from 16384 to 32768

D/dalvikvm( 1613): GC_FOR_MALLOC freed 4524 objects / 409416 bytes in 91ms

I/CheckinTask( 1613): Checkin success: h**ps://android.clients.google.com/checkin (1 requests sent)

I/CheckinService( 1613): From server: Intent { act=android.server.checkin.FOTA_CANCEL }

W/ActivityManager( 1441): Permission Denial: broadcasting Intent { act=android.server.checkin.FOTA_CANCEL } from com.google.android.gsf (pid=1613, uid=10013) requires android.permission.HTC_FOTA_UPDATE due to registered receiver BroadcastFilter{45021c68 ReceiverList{45021bf0 1441 system/1000 local:45021a50}}

After that, the following is seen in the logcat output:

V/AlarmManager( 1441): Adding Alarm{45354300 type 0 com.google.android.gsf} Oct 19 10:35:48 am

Which I am guessing (I've not a means to confirm) that the phone schedules the next update for about a week out.

Because it's https, there's no way to intercept to see what is actually transferred in the stream.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xyrcncp:
Unfortunately Al's G2 will not get this update. T-Mobile doesn't like Al. :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Hawon:
I've been using checkin many times since NexusOne, my phone never restarted and erased any apps...
[G2 and Desire Z General] WarBird87:
I have no idea what happened to my phone then lol... I restarted it and it went back to normal with all my apps and wallpaper
[G2 and Desire Z General] rmcsc:
So the phone *does* get that update that was posted about yesterday. No unicorns or laser beams, though?
[G2 and Desire Z General] nomadism:
For the last 30 minutes I'm doing the "checkin" procedure stuff, but strangely all of the check ins are being reported as "failed". Weird...anyone else?
[G2 and Desire Z General] tehtide:
You are still billed actual minutes used and current contract rates. So if you are on WiFi calling and call Russia... it is still going to cost you minutes and tons of money. However, if I'm in Ireland in a hotspot I should be able to reach my wife and office via the wifi and it not cost anything more then my current minutes. However... we shall actually see what it does when it finally gets rolled out to everyone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tehtide:
I wasn't referring to casual users... just those who root for tethering and basic stuff. Not those who are looking for new roms to flash etc...
[G2 and Desire Z General] MCbrian:
It's all the clueless who accused hah2110 of lying (that's how it's spelled, btw :rolleyes:) who were wrong -- not him.

If the clueless weren't so arrogant these forums would be a lot more productive (not to mention more pleasant...).

No -- you're wrong and can't admit it. Why is it that the clueless always defend their cluelessness rather than just admit they don't know sh!t? And when was the last time you posted proof of anything you post? :rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheArtiszan:
Mine is Queued on device how do I pull the link on it so can directly save the OTA via PC?
[G2 and Desire Z General] sinistersai4d4d:
I do enjoy Cyanogen, but again, that was necessary on the G1 to have a decent experience. On the G2 I just want wifi tether and (Words With Friends!) and I'll be content without using any Roms unless something stellar comes along...

The only other things I can think of are flashing led notifications (not the ****ty one we have now) and trackpad button to wake screen.
[G2 and Desire Z General] j.books:
yeah, tethering is nice, but the point of rooting to me is nothing less than freedom. I want to be able to flash and backup ROMs, and have complete control of apps. overclocking doesn;t seem like its necessary for this phone cuz its already fast, but I'd like to have the option to.
[G2 and Desire Z General] wondermixx:
i love it when stuff like this happens, the excitement of OTAs! :D:D:D
[G2 and Desire Z General] reddragon72:
Someone asnwer this guy :p
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jorsher:
I still want root, simply to strip down the OS and apply any performance tweaks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] chewy106:
Not to derail this thread, but no offense, the disbelief was pretty much brought on by hah2110 replying to a pic request with "I shouldn't post one". It could have all been avoided. If I was being questioned, I would either post a pic, or if I couldn't, say I can't because of such and such a reason (no camera, at work, whatever). Not reply in a way that implied I could prove it, but I'm choosing not to for a vague and unknown reason, which just eggs on the masses to act as they do.
[G2 and Desire Z General] larryccf:
take a look at post 893 at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=794053&page=90

if you save it to your SD card, you can move it to your PC later
[G2 and Desire Z General] magnafides:
That's not 100% accurate anymore. About a month ago the Google Voice app update made it so dialing out would use a "random" GV number; it will still use your minutes. It should still work for incoming calls though.

Anyways, I still have my two G2s that I was going to send back to T-Mobile today. If I can get confirmation that the OTA fixes the low-signal rebooting problem I may consider keeping them...

I'll give it until Friday before I send them back, but T-Mobile's stubbornness in withholding information may cost them $500+ and two contract extensions this time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] arich:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/droid-incredible/31295-how-get-ota-download-location-share.html

or http://androidforums.com/658976-post36.html

no clue if this actually works for the G2
[G2 and Desire Z General] wondermixx:
come on TheArtiszan you can do it! share the goodness with all of us! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] KeithRVA:
Ha yes, the excitement, the anticipation, the bickering, all present. As per my little tradition, I will play Phil Collins	' "In The Air Tonight" on endless repeat til my update arrives. I may also remain unwashed til then.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mtrausch:
Oh, ow. Eww. Seriously?
[G2 and Desire Z General] KeithRVA:
Uh, yeah, I can't take my phone in the shower can I? What if the OTA is some sort of reply within 30 seconds or you get zilch type if thing?? jk
[G2 and Desire Z General] Foo_Blyat:
I just tried doing the check in code and right when I type the last * it all disappears and nothing happens. Doesn't say wether it worked or failed.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bled82:
Have you looked to see if you have an update.zip file , also you may get a better response if you post in the 2 different root forums or on twitter . I am looking though the web to see if i can find out how ill update you when i find some thing .
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkadesi:
1. T-Mobile doesn't charge for tethering , AS OF NOW. I don't know if it will stay like this forever.

2 No, you dont need extra calling plan or a feature. You simply connect your phone to your wifi router and turn ON wifi calling in the phone. The daytime minutes will come off from your plan if you are using it in daytime. At night it works exactly like nights and weekends.