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[Desire HD General] v-b-n:
HTCSense.com is now online and works !

Screenshots here : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=8497006&postcount=11
[Desire HD General] badaas:
e2save says 6th october to me yesterday.
[Desire HD General] paolonio:
I just got the confirmation from Uk that the shipping date is delayed by HTC to oct 29th....

but no official notification at all :mad:
[Desire HD General] Huck33:
it seems that there an isssue with the battery cap which explains the delay....
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
come on HTC, bring it on!
[Desire HD General] mavronn:
HTC better hurry up and deliver or there might be a sudden lack of interest after the UK government announces its spending cuts on the 20th!
[Desire HD General] kingcedz:
Amazon now has the shipping date 25th Oct.
[Desire HD General] jords12:
Any source? This is interesting.
[Desire HD General] Seraphic:
Not good

Amazon has pushed the release date back again to November 15th. This isn't looking good.
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Just had an email from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk

"Dear Customer

Many thanks for your order for the exciting new Desire HD!

Today, we can confirm you will still be one of the first customers to receive this amazing new phone.

We are expecting to be able to fulfil your order in the next 15 working days which means your Desire HD should be with you by the end of October.

There is no need to call us, we promise to update you with further information next week!

Kind regards"
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
I think the retailers are doing a very good job of keeping us up to date. But i really dont think anyone(them included) knows whats going on. If the phone did fail google testing for any reason(S/W or H/W) HTC have to options open up the first batch and fix em or leave the first batch and just run out the second lot as the first ones out and leave the non approved lot till later (i know what id do lol) the second one :-)

With that in mind i think we will see the first lot of desire HDs more mid october than late
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
oh my god. if HTC delay this any further im going to commit suicide.

huck, could you give us more details on the battery cap?
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
man is my 5-6 weekrnd without the phone, so +-1 weekend will be fine :D
[Desire HD General] Eurks:
The wait begins for my dispatched email from P4U :/
[Desire HD General] adwinp:
First of all, HTC CLEARLY stated an "October" release, which might as well be the 31st, for what it's worth.

Those to blame are really the retailers and the marketting scheme.

If the manufacturer DIDN'T specify a date, DON'T take one out of thin air.

This goes for ALL the e-tailers.

This has been the case for nearly every generation-gap phone since the HTC Diamond.

On a side note, I would really appreciate if somebody could point me to a Glasgow P4U/CW/Other store which sells a sim-free DHD.

and here's Superetrader's reply, just a few secs ago:
[Desire HD General] abrasive:
Okey, so I just got a mail back from HTC support reguarding that IDG.se said that the 3rd of November is going to be the official launch date for the phone in Sweden (the article says HTC confirmed it). In the message I got, I'm being told that there is no confirmed date for Sweden. I don't know who to trust with this. But both are probably wrong :p
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
T-mobile are shipping there phones for new customers and upgrades, mine will be be with me tomorrow..:D
[Desire HD General] Craptastical:
Nobody knows. It's all a bunch of hand-waving from HTC as well as the retailers.

At this point I'm angry at both. I'm angry with HTC because they don't seem to even know their product availability dates (or at least are unwilling to share that info, which is also bad). I'm angry with the retailers for **** teasing us with dates they clearly pulled out of thin air and then pushing the dates out week after week.

All of this after Elgiganten already charged me for it.

To those of you who keep saying "HTC said October and nothing more"... Tell that to Elgiganten and most of the other retail stores here in Sweden who started with dates between the 13th and 15 of October (I think I saw Komplett.se with even earlier dates). They've all pushed the date out past October. Those of us here in Sweden have plenty to be angry over. :mad:
[Desire HD General] LecterMe:
I've got the same info from a danish mobile news site. They also state, that it is confirmed by HTC.

Dont know if its the same HTC, that did not know which screen the phone has.
[Desire HD General] crossbox:
It's obviously not entirely their fault but I ordered from them based on the "Expected week commencing 18th". Clearly they've sucked a date out of thin air on the basis that anyone committed by that week will bend over and take one more week of waiting because by that time they have no choice. And they're still advertising that they expect it this week even though they've communicated in emails to customers that clearly no-one will receive any until next week. Unless of course they actually receive and dispatch orders tomorrow.
[Desire HD General] ardsar:
Sorry guys, didnt want to start an "arguement" and i guess we don't know the full story.......... Lets get back to the topic.
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
that is very very good news. coz if Superetrader get it tomorrow, so is clove and so...
[Desire HD General] berek9999:
I hope you are, but sadly I suspect it just means that they'll probably push the date back again when it gets to the 25th, just like they did with the 19th Oct date.
[Desire HD General] latte33:
Yeah i know.

As others retailers also said they have stock at next week....

Then let hope I got it at Monday....

if not they are ready to eat SH*t :mad:
[Desire HD General] mancuk29:
play.com delayed again to 25th october ... come on i want my desire hd

on a brighter note the phone is VERY SEXY had a play around in carphone warehouse who have shed loads of them on orange / vodaphone and t mobile but wont sell me one outright !! not good said to try next week ...

fingers crossed ill have the phone in my mits on the 25th but if not cpw will get my business ,,, hate the rubbish sony ericsson im using want a desire hd (sold my desire to pay for the hd version when the release date was beginning of october)

miss android :(
[Desire HD General] adwinp:
I have just confirmed that there is no chance in hell that Superetrader is gonna receive their stock tomorrow. MAYBE Friday, but even that is unsure.

And no, don't ask me for my source.

;]
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
done adwinp :D

btw: the time runs very fast if we will say evry day that will get it tomorrow, its work for me for a month+ ;)
[Desire HD General] crossbox:
What's the bet clove/play/handtec etc get stock and dispatch on the same day phones4u and carphone wharehouse start selling sim free :rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] SW7:
Just been to a P4U store in Cardiff. They have the phone in stock and on the price label under the network logos it says "SIM Free Price: 449.99" but the sales rep wouldn't sell it to me SIM free...
[Desire HD General] latte33:
I bet most of them (Retailer) will sell the sim free HDH next week....

Due to the so call 'Manufacturer release date'...
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
Just got an interesting email from handtec

I got this after they asked for a utilities bill or passport (anything to prove im the owner of the credit card used) which i provided yesterday. So does this mean it's dispatched?
[Desire HD General] Gig11gs:
yeah i guess :D

grats
[Desire HD General] SW7:
Yep! Looks very promising!!:D
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
i actually don't think it's been dispatched. This was just an email saying that the forms i provided have been processed. Nobody else here has had theirs dispatched? I only ordered 2 days ago from them lol
[Desire HD General] crossbox:
Looks like a form letter to me - sorry, but don't think it means they're actually dispatching in this case (trust me, I wish it was the case)
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
False alarm :D

But to be honest, i don't know if i want it to be dispatched. What if the proximity error is hardware related, i think i might be better off cancelling my order..

Any thoughts?
[Desire HD General] adwinp:
That's strange, since I was just with Online Support; had a lengthy conversation and they don't have stock yet.

@SupremeBeaver: I don't want to crash your hopes, but Handtec charges up front, regardless of the delivery date.

@Anyone from Glasgow: I've got a friend coming over on Friday, and would like her to buy the DHD. If you were successful in getting the DHD sim-free, plz PM me the address of the P4U store where you got it.
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
clove, handtec and expansys still keeping the release date to the end of that week (22th), so yep, we still have some hope that they will release it soon, very soon...
[Desire HD General] Gig11gs:
just got off the phone with phones4u they said contract release date is the 22th but they have no information about sim free
[Desire HD General] Zantos64:
Interesting business plan Handtec have - charging in advance. What is the interest on say 200 people pre-ordering at £450 a piece ie £90,000?:confused:
[Desire HD General] oawalker:
Got an email from mobiles.co.uk says they have it in stock now. they have it on orange, t-mobile and Vodafone. and if you look it says the phone is unlocked to any network

http://www.mobiles.co.uk/htc-desire-hd.html#MobilePhoneTariffs
[Desire HD General] polystirenman:
that is what i've been thinking.HTC said Sometime in OCTOBER but handtec was expecting stock from 4th october.i think they knew all this time that it was impossible and they are just playing dirty games with us.last time i used handtec.only thing that stops me from walking into one of P4U stores is handetc already holds my money and i do not want to cancel my preorder before i actually have this phone.
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
that is it!!! its come on the 22th get ready :D

handtec is update the stock to:

STOCK UPDATE:

First Shipment: We expect to ship all September backorders on Friday 22nd October.

Second batch: Arriving week comencing 25th October.
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
Handtec.co.uk stock update!

STOCK UPDATE:

First Shipment: We expect to ship all September backorders on Friday 22nd October.

Second batch: Arriving week comencing 25th October.

e: dammit, so slow..
[Desire HD General] eboni:
Expansys are saying we should receive it Saturday / Monday. I am keeping pessimistic until I have it in-hand.
[Desire HD General] nickhammond121:
Has anybody heard anything from Vodafone uk as to shipping? The website still says expected 22 October

Sent from my Nexus One
[Desire HD General] abrasive:
I wouldn't hold my breath...
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
mybe, but here is mail that i get from clove few days ago:
[Desire HD General] Protongti:
got tired of waiting from Vodaphone uk, cancelled pre-oder which they don't expec to be in stock for another 3-5 days. So dedcide to pop in CPW today and i walked out with DHD in my hand. :D very happy indeed.

Made some calls and no prox sensor problem so far. touch wood
[Desire HD General] Devilsduck:
weird! I have an email stating that I will recieve my desire hd on friday from vodafone uk
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
more updates:

" Handtec Note: Stock is confirmed as arriving to our warehouse on Friday the 22nd October. Unfortunately we can only cover back orders placed in September. We expect our second shipment to arrive week commencing 25th October. This is good news as some rumours suggested we would not see any stock until November. If you have placed an order in September then you should receive tracking late Friday. Please refrain from sending us emails regarding this and check this page for further updates. Thank you for your patience."
[Desire HD General] Gig11gs:
I hate my self for ordering from amazon :(

looks like all of you are getting it at the 22nd
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
i was in your situation dude! I ordered from Amazon, got annoyed then went and ordered from handtec. But it looks like i'll be part of the second batch.

Why don't u place an order with handtec? you will be part of next week's shipment.
[Desire HD General] ulrih78:
I have got mine from Phones 4 U in llandudno North Wales.

I think that the screen of my Desire is better then the screen of desire HD :(

And it may have some problem with proximity sensor :(:(
[Desire HD General] abrasive:
Do they debit you before the item is dispatched?
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
unfortunately yes. and i only found out after i made my preorder. But it's no problem, the phone should be with me soon.
[Desire HD General] evilskanker:
Report the problem to HTC - think they are trying to sort it!

Did you get it on contract or sim-free from Phones4U?
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
handtek - yep, they take the $ immediately, clove - dont and amazon - dono :confused:
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
Not exactly. All stores are receiving pretty limited stock on 22nd, it seems. For example Handtec only promised to fullfill orders made on september. I am not in that group of people, so it will be a delay after a delay for me too (I think).
[Desire HD General] adwinp:
I will be getting mine on Friday; a friend of mine will be buying it in Glasgow.

I will hold my order with Handtec though; will sell it when it arrives.
[Desire HD General] abrasive:
Okey, pitty :(
[Desire HD General] ulrih78:
sim free £449
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
good for me, i take the pre order from clove in the 15th last month.

btw: its not big deal coz the next stock will come on the 25th.

btw: if the sensor issue was an hardware issue - HTC will stop the stock immediately. am i right?
[Desire HD General] bigsi100:
I got the same e-mail, b ut I ordered on 6th Oct. Slightly peeved TBH. It'd be interesting to see when latte33 ordered . . .

Could be just a glitch. Maybe.
[Desire HD General] Protongti:
Not everyone who ordered from vodafone will get their on the 22nd and this is not weird it's called supply and demand. I must say i got a much cheaper and better deal on Tmobile from CPW.
[Desire HD General] havoc99:
I ordered from Handtec on the 4th of October... I hope I get mine from the first batch! I would hate to get it from the second batch which will be due "Second batch: Arriving week comencing 25th October."... So probably will receive it by the 1st of November! :eek::mad:
[Desire HD General] nickkyw:
vodaphone Uk in store

Hi Folks,

I am keen to upgrade my contract but not on the "pre-order" contracts which are being touted at the moment. Vodafone WILL NOT be flexible with price (for upgrades) until the phone is "released" and in stores lol.... what do they know :)

Has anybody got a view as to when voda will have these in stores? Ive asked and they say 22nd... but looking at the past comments I'm not confident!
[Desire HD General] ramadanatt:
I liked your comments .. lol:D
[Desire HD General] zen123:
Just ordered mine from mobiles.co.uk (in stock) £319 for the phone @ £10pm - 24m contract but with auto £10 discount per month = no monthly fee. Effectively I get an unlocked phone for just £319
[Desire HD General] ramadanatt:
Today I went again to the same phones4u store. they said on monday i will get it. I asked them to return my deposit and sweared not to buy this phone. I hate HTC.

will never look for an HTC phone again.

Phone stores are all a punch of liars and oportunists

will buy the galaxy tab instead

I have to change my signature too

bye bye
[Desire HD General] noobdeagle:
damn that handtec update made me dissapointed lol i only found out about the desire HD early this week :( so i will def miss the first shipment

i find it funny how they say week commencing 25th for 2nd i bet 2nd shipment will be on the 29th
[Desire HD General] crossbox:
From:	Customer Services (MFB809) (info@handtec.co.uk)

Sent:	14 October 2010 11:25:13

Thank you for your question.

Further to your question you asked yesterday.

Can you confirm that you will have this phone in stock by 18th?

The HTC Desire HD is not guraranteed for the 18th, only in the week commencing the 18th.

That you will be receiving enough stock to cover pre-orders made today ?

At this time we will have enough to cover back orders, and orders placed today, please order as soon as possible. Soon this mat not be the case.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us by replying to this ticket.

As always, it is our pleasure to assist in any way possible!

Thank you

Handtec Customer Services

www.handtec.co.uk

now I have to wait another freakin week !!!!

feeling pretty pissed off :mad:
[Desire HD General] noobdeagle:
you know there could be a chance they are getting more than they claim they may just be stating september only to appease early pre-orderers and some from october all all may get them wait and see, they may just be downplaying available stock no doubt they have had cancellations and what not during the month or 2

however + shipping time means some of us have been without a phone for a long time, i sold mine to preorder the desire hd lol
[Desire HD General] evilskanker:
:confused: Pretty sure the regular price is £20 per month for that contract tariff, so you will have to pay £10 a month still. Did you even read the website?

"This discount is automatically arranged by the network and ranges from £5 to £10 depending on the tariff. It has already been applied to the monthly line rental advertised"
[Desire HD General] rad_cam:
Phones4u wil sell me one tomorrow for £500. £20 more than elsewhere but I'll have it at least.
[Desire HD General] evilskanker:
Strange. Two other members on here have said P4U have it for £449 - one even managed to buy it at that price! :confused:

Personally I have an order with Handtec that should arrive on Saturday, but am going to try P4U (5 different stores near me) tomorrow to see if I can get one!
[Desire HD General] rad_cam:
In England? I don't want to get conned but even Devicewire is asking for £470. If it's England I'll haggle with the stereotypical gobby, spikey-haired salesmen that told me £500.
[Desire HD General] zen123:
Hmmm seems like you're right. I bought a phone from them a couple of years ago which had the same wording on the deals but back then it was £10 off the advertised line rental.

It looks like they changed it so that the discount is already taken off . Silly moi I just assumed it was just like before.

Never mind, the phone will be delivered on Friday so I'll have a whole weekend to play with it & I'll just return it on the 7 day change of mind policy.
[Desire HD General] Basil3:
Mate, don't pay that! I paid £449.95 in store two days ago, and that is the price that is shown on the display under the phone!
[Desire HD General] rad_cam:
Cheeky bastard! I'll demand the same price. No wonder he offered to call me in the morning when it was available.
[Desire HD General] kingcedz:
OMG new Macbook Air was announced and available straight away?!

when was the Desire HD announced again?

sorry i know its different thing, just cant help it having paid on pre order and waiting for something has no sign of showing up!
[Desire HD General] Craptastical:
Actually, he has a point and it's something a lot of hardware companies should try to learn from.

It's just the rule that you don't preannounce any hardware or software release.

There is one big difference between HTC and Apple that might make it impossible though... HTC doesn't really have an online store of their own so they have to coordinate with wholesale and retail.
[Desire HD General] Smigit:
The phone was only announced just over a month ago.

Apple have plenty of devices they have announced in advance and shipped later such as the iPhone, iPad (which then experienced delays) and even some of the products today aren't due until next year or some time from now (Facetime, new Mac Store, the new OS). Yes, I'm aware those examples today are software but the fact still stands.

Hell, I wouldn't want to use Apple as the example...where exactly is that white iPhone 4 they announced and said would be available months ago?

Anyway back to the original statement...the DHD wasn't announced all that long ago. For what it's worth, they seem to have done a pretty good job not to mention the HD7 had an even shorter period between the official unveil and its release.

If people think we have it bad spare a thought to those that were wanting the Nokia N8 or something and the length of time between that handsets announcement and its eventual shipping.
[Desire HD General] kingcedz:
I m free to say whatever I want. espeically when all I was trying to do was to throw in some light hearted conversation for everyone waiting for the phone here.

why cant i compare HTC with apple if they are in the same business?!

Even compare HTC with itself: HTC announced HD7 a few weeks later than Desire HD, yet they are releasing HD7 nation wide today, I dont think there is any excuse the delay. if they are not ready, dont announce it and get retailers start taking deposit.
[Desire HD General] Otterjasie:
For anyone who is desperate for the phone...looks like it's not a pre-order!

h t t p : / / cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Desire-HD-Smartphone-/300483471961?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item45f635ea59#ht_1004wt_1139
[Desire HD General] eboni:
It was a relevant comment on a light-hearted forum. I am guessing he is waiting for his phone just like a lot of other pre-orderers here.

As stated before HTC do not have an online shop, but there are comparisons to be made here, and lessons to be learnt by HTC.

Letting people have their say is part of a online forum.
[Desire HD General] Zantos64:
It also brings into question the whole idea of "pre-ordering". Surely this is supposed to give priority access to any deliveries of phones or else quite what is the point? May as well just sit back and wait until these are advertised as being in stock and getting delivery in the next few days. Pre-ordering has certainly done little to "jump the queue" regarding the release of the Desire HD - it has be "given away" as an upgrade to people on contract who have just taken the phone to resell as a profit for themselves having no interest in owning the phone at all. So I repeat what :mad:is the use of pre-ordering?
[Desire HD General] Smigit:
Well its only a deal with the retailer you order from. Places like Handtec apparently will be preferencing the people that order first once they have stock which means as an Australian buyer I should get it sooner since it's not due in retail here for some time
[Desire HD General] Rixsta:
Reading all this Im glad I got mine off ebay £449 and it arrived this morning....saved all the messing about and waiting.:p
[Desire HD General] scotia_rfc:
Anyone who has ordered from Clove heard anything yet?

Their website still has week ending 22/10. Checked my bank and they haven't taken any money yet :(
[Desire HD General] crossbox:
I thought I might calm down by this morning but I'm actually even more angry. I can't believe the unbelievably bad service from Handtec. I've received 0 updates on my order since placing it, and after assuring me that they would be receiving enough stock to cover all pre-orders up to the 14th of October in their first shipment, they have now done a complete turn around and said they will only fill orders from September from their first shipment. It's absolutely unacceptable. If they'd been honest about it to begin with I could have at least shopped around for someone who would actually have stock. Will never order from them again.
[Desire HD General] rad_cam:
Apologies for last night's rage. I just got mine, £450, P4U, Oxford :)
[Desire HD General] jords12:
I also ordered from clove, on 25th Sept. Haven't heard anything yet.
[Desire HD General] Xartz:
Just cancelled my pre order with MPD and heard word of e2save having 40 units in stock, ordered one yesterday and was kindly told that I'd receive my handset today via dhl.

They gave me a tracking reference which doesn't even work, try it yourselves. JD0002213300122698

I just woke up in literal rage.