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[Galaxy S I9000 General] ConceptVBS:
Video - HTC Desire vs Galaxy S - Quake 2 demo run video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpP5QljEqow&feature=related

No chance.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Barkotron:
1) Ooooh, smackdown.

2) Where do I get Quake 2 from and does it have usable controls?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Adriaaaaan:
http://sites.google.com/site/quake2android/

no it doesn't have usable controls, I'm actually doing some hacking on it right now. So I can at least get in game now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] widjaja74_us:
Anybody switched from Galaxy S to HTC Desire?

I just ditched my galaxy sin frustration of all the problems i faced.

I am thinking of getting HTC Desire....

If there is anybody who did the same thing, please let me know if you were happy with your decision, I mean I dont want to be disappointed again.....

I heard a lot of good things about the Desire, but i want your personal honest opinions on it....

Is the phone really reliable and pretty much trouble free?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jasonfreeman27:
the desire is the best android phone going the only let down is rom space for the apps but saying that htc are coming out with 2.2 in sept with that apps can be saved on to your memory card if you read techradar.com review off it.you wont be disappointed
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ostendk:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=666332
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Rithina:
LOL

I think OP should have get a motorola instead ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bynar010:
I wouldn't swap my galaxy s for a desire.no way. I've played with a desire and apart from the fact the gps works, its got nothing over the galaxy in my opinion.

Soon as the new firmware for the galaxy hits this thing its going to be awesome!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] azazin:
I highly doubt that, considering the Desire has an outdated GPU and has been Officially exterminated in comparison videos :p.

Also, the Desire has flaws just like the Galaxy S, but the Galaxy S has the superior technology.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ogen:
Why would you make that switch? The sgs got more power, and if you dont like the ui, go for launcher pro and a good task killer. Plus, 2.2 comes out in a few weeks for sgs wich will make it even more superior :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ariozo:
Nope. but i did change from Desire to Sgs tho :)

And have not use my Desire one day after i got my sgs in my hand, not say Desire is a bad phone tho it is realy a great device but Sgs is way faster with few mods. and just the screen itself compare to desire i should go for sgs right away :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
it was the other way around for me.

Originally I got the Desire, but then i came across this video of Desire vs. I9000 and I was left speechless, needless to say i didn't even bother and returned it right away to get the SGS i9000 :D

lucky i came across that video the same say i go the Desire
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ostendk:
Link to that video, please? :)

Oh, btw - samsung did multitouch right :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Alcoholic:
Watch this video and tell me if you still want to switch

http://phandroid.com/2010/07/06/thi...processor-in-the-samsung-galaxy-s-is-awesome/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
that is the video that made me switch from Desire to i9000 :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] :
Sweden here too...

how can you afford two expensive phones:D:confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dwardu:
galaxy S or a desire

Hi guys, its the time for me to let my old iphone 2g to start picking up dust, but i have been looking at reviews of the samsung galaxy s and people had complained of the loss of network, the death grip (same what happened for apple), the GPS inaccuracy when compared to the desire, and the freeze ups of the system and sometimes even having to restart the phone because calls cannot be made. Could anyone confirm this for me please? otherwise the features that the galaxy s has is great for what I need.

it is either this or the desire which lacks voice control
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
Flakey Wi-Fi connection sometimes occur on early firmwares, i don't see it around lately. Personally i never encountered the problem.

Lags- on early firmwares they indeed do exist, barely seen if at all on later firmwares, and there are several homebrew fixes.

The "death grip" thingy- pure bull****. Apple's problem is fundamentally different than any other phone on the market. Grip the device (be it a galaxy S or a desire) however you want, you won't be able to drop a call.

The only real persisting problem is the GPS, it's ok mostly, but not as accurate as on the desire or other devices. We are currently waiting for a response from samsung, rumors state that a new driver for the GPS is supposed to show up soon.

But rumors, in the end, are just rumors.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dwardu:
ah thanks, so i will just wait it out abit more and maybe this will be fixed once the froyo update is officially live.

EDIT: I found a link for the gpx fix, http://www.androidcentral.com/quick-fix-gps-issues-your-new-samsung-galaxy-s-series-phone

could you confirm this if it fixes the problems please
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Cyberpope:
It does not.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Karupan:
I've been having the same confusion as the OP. I'm leaning more towards the Galaxy S because:

1) The screen is just amazing! Coming from an iPhone, I cannot put up with the mediocre screen in the Desire. Especially with the pinkish tint issue due to it being a pentile matrix screen

2) Better hardware for games - The Galaxy S currently has THE BEST hardware combo in an Android phone

The Desire on the other hand, scores on all other requirements. It has a flash, notification LED, better UI thanks to sense, and a far better build quality. Unfortunately its not yet released in my country, and the time for me to get a new phone is fast running out!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
A pinkish tint is not related in any way to the pentile matrix. The galaxy S also uses a pentile matrix screen.

Also, about "far better build quality", i could not disagree more.

More expensive materials (metal, teflon) does not say "better build quality".

Yes, the SGS uses plastic, so it doesn't feel as "premium" as the desire or nexus one.

On the other hand, due to using plastic, it's shock absorbing abilities and overall durability are much higher.

It also doesn't squick or tick when you press on it/twist it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Karupan:
My bad. But the point I was trying to make is that the Desire's screen is not as good as the Galaxy S'

Each to his own! I definitely feel a bit of metal adds durability to a phone. At least the battery cover could've been metal. For the record, my good old E51 "feels" more solid in hand. The Galaxy S isn't bad per say, but definitely could've been better keeping in mind its premium tag.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
Unfortunately, build quality is something more factual rather than a personal preffrence or feeling ("to each his own")

I'll address to each matter in a different paragraph, to keep things in order:

First, about metal and durability. Metal sounds good, but it isn't always is.

Metal, due to (usually) being hard, is a lousy shock absorber. It just transfers shock energy onwards.

Now what if your phone has a metal frame around the glass screen lens?

Falls or other major shock would easily result in a broken/fractured screen lens.

So yeah, the metal itself is durable, but that alone isn't worth much.

Samsung took a different approach to things-

See the from silver-ish ring? That's an aluminum rim, covered with soft plastic, which is in turn covered with harder polycarbonate. This reults in general good structural integrity, while keeping shock absorbing abilities and decent scratch-resistance.

Second, about the back cover-

As you can see, the large back cover in the Galaxy S is one piece.

Replacing it to a metal cover would:

1- Make the phone as heavy as a brick

2- Make the reception crappy.

You wouldn't want that, right?

Thired, weight-

Besides the fact that a lighter phone is more comfortable to carry around, a lighter phone is also a more durable phone.

Mobile phones are a device that is prone to falling.

Impact energy is directly related to weight, and in this game, every gram counts.

1 gram can be the difference between an undamaged phone and a completely broken screen.

Last point, price-

The galaxy S is already a pretty expensive phone.

Not that i can complain, they managed to make a monster of a device, stuff in some uberawesome hardware and every possible feature (almost) while managing to make it one of the thinnest devices ever seen.

Metal would increase manufacturing prices, and of course, final customer price.

Also, due to being mostly from plastic, the replacement parts and repair costs for the Galaxy S (besides hardware parts) are very low.

Try to check how much a replacement metal frame for the nexus/desire would cost, in contrast.

From my P.O.V, and maybe it's just me, i preffer practical advantages (reception, weight, price, replacements, durability) to trivial ones like "premium feeling" or something like that.

Give it some thought.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ostendk:
Desire has problems too: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=666332
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
personally i came from HTC Athena to HTC Desire To SGS i9000

i only had the Desire for a day :p because of all the cool stuff on SGS i9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] RyanZA:
I think there is a lot of truth in this...

I had my galaxy s on charge on a table with the cable dangling under it, and I stepped on the cable. That sent the phone flying across the room. It somehow did not even get a scratch and everything still seems to be working fine a day later. (I hope? Haven't noticed any problems yet!)

I'm pretty sure sending most phones flying across the room onto tiles would break something, but zero issues so far from this one!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lenrek:
Same here, I almost have a shock when I accidentally dropped it. It seems to survive and works just fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] boodies:
how the heck is this even a comparison? Galaxy S vs Desire? I mean good night.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dwardu:
can you get back on topic please, i had thought of waiting till samsung fix the GPS problems that they have and i would order one
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
both phones are technically identical except for the CPU

it's a perfect basis for comparison
[Galaxy S I9000 General] makuchaku:
Hi dwardu,

You can check out a quick comparison i did between N1 and HTC Desire - hxxp://bit.ly/why-i9000

Basically I was also confused - but after researching for points this comparison, I instantly had a decision :)

I hope it helps :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] julian2002:
Except for the screen size, screen quality, gpu, and speed. The desire is a good phone but rhetorically sgs is much better.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] boodies:
You probably never seen a SGS. Techincally the same? Are you kidding me.

Here are the differences. Listed below are not available in Desire.

4 inch SAMOLED

FFC

Bluetooth 3.0

HSUPA, 5.76 Mbp compared to 2 for the desire

Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n; DLNA

720p@30fps

MP4/DivX/WMV/H.264/H.263 player

MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player

Standard battery, Li-Po 1500 mAh

Up to 750 h (2G) / Up to 576 h (3G)

Up to 13 h 30 min (2G) / Up to 6 h 30 min (3G)

And for Desire...

Standard battery, Li-Ion 1400 mAh

Up to 340 h (2G) / Up to 360 h (3G)

Up to 6 h 40 min (2G) / Up to 6 h 30 min (3G)

DID I MENTION CPU? You make it sound like cpu is the least important in your naive little quote upthere. The CPU / GPU is one of the most important aspects of modern phones. Would you get a Vibrant with 528mhz?

There is no challenge. All other phones = Fail
[Galaxy S I9000 General] boodies:
to sum up... it's BIGGER, STRONGER and... lighter. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] djglenn1337:
"galaxy S or a desire "

I am trying to figure this out also (I upgrade in 10 days...)

I am currently leaning towards the Samsung due to bigger & better screen.

The only 2 things putting me off it, is the above mentioned gps issue, and that samsung are not likely to upgrade firmware past Android 2.2, where as HTC might release Android 3.0 for the Desire...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] boodies:
Android 3.0 is most likely going to be released for the phone. This is the biggest phone launch in Samsung history. Not only that, The hardware is ready for 3.0. Desire? I am not quite sure if it is up to task. You know the minimum system requirement went up with 3.0. If the desire does get it, it probably will run slow. Kinda like G1 trying to run 2.2 no matter what, it's still slow. The GPS is a non issue for me. I did return it and get a new one but you guys are probably going to end up with a later build then mine anyway. Well good luck.

If you want to be future proof, you defintely want to get the SGS Here are the differences LINK
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mafiatounes:
I have just the same decision to make and my main concern (same as most) would be if it would run gingerbread when its released and the few issues are a concern also hope samsung sorts these out asap with the froyo rom
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Geryatrix:
The GPS issue is so prevalent that I would be most surprised if Samsung didn't fix it, as it could stop sales of new SGS's.

To choose something now on a supposition of what might be released at some unspecified time in the future, does not make sense to me. We know that samsung will release froyo, 2.2, as some members of this forum are already testing the pre-release version, but as to Gingerbread, until the spec for that version is agreed, no one knows if the hardware on any phone in production today will fit with the new software. As the SGS has the current highest hardware spec, then if any current phone will take Gingerbread, then the SGS stands the best chance.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mafiatounes:
Also most rumors say 3.0 is in testing/development at the moment and could be released @ the end of the year thats why it bothers me to buy and then stay behind i think im gonna wait till 3.0 comes out to get a new android phone this friday i will get my iphone 4
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mithent:
I've had to make this decision for my forthcoming upgrade, and have come down on the side of the Galaxy S due to the better screen (both PenTile which I don't like, but the Galaxy S' is definitely better in general) and CPU/GPU. I hope we get a similar level of development to the Desire though - it has an advantage being an HTC phone, since people here have a lot of experience working with them.

I'm a little surprised to see the CPU of the Desire criticised so much, though. The Galaxy S' 1GHz Hummingbird does bench a bit faster than the 1GHz Snapdragon in the Desire (although I'm not sure why!) but it's hardly in a different ballpark. The Galaxy S' GPU, however, is.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
It's criticised so much because the snapdragon is amazingly overrated.

Samsung's hummingbird is a different ballpark- it performs better by 10% and sometimes even more (which is a big deal, considering they are both the same frequency)

And uses much less power than the snapdragon, due to being 45nm and not 65.

The GPU... it's not a different ballpark, those are different dimensions.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dwardu:
Hi guys, i ended up buying an htc desire, i was worried about the flaky gps. plus desire is fully supported here in Malta by Vodafone. Thanks for all your input :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gTen:
Its not a surprise...the Snapdragon was made in 2006, the Hummingbird was made in 2009....its like saying its a surprise a core i7 beats a core 2 quad...if anything the hummingbird is on par with the new 1.2ghz snapdragons...

people are too focused on ghz and don't realize there are other things in a chip other then ghz like L2 and L3 cache, threading and more...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] azreil24:
Don`t provide wrong information, the battery on SGS is Li-Ion, the information on GSMArena for example is wrong. Check out the back of your battery, mine says LI-ION.

HTC Desire is a worthy adversary as it gets over 40MFlops in Linpack, and over 1700 points in Quadrant. At the moment, even with the Froyo beta`s on SGS I get only 15MFlops and 1000 points in Quadrant. Needless to say that the HTC has far more developers than the Samsung thread, check out the user who created his own Froyo release. Don`t get me wrong, I love my SGS, but that doesn`t meen that other phones are crap. All have goods and bads, it depends on each and every user wich one is suited for him.

Cheers.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
JIT isn't fully enabled in the current froyo versions, and quadrant, frankly, is bull**** (for exmple, 2d acceleration gets the same weight in the final result as 3D. Due to the fact that the SGS doesn't have a dedicated 2D accelerator, quadrant doesn't try to use the cpu- it just gives a round zero in that part)

The desire is most definetly not crap and not close to it, but every one has to see what functions he needs and choose accordingly.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alkasteve:
I've got the Samsung Galaxy S (so obviously choice was already made) but coming from a T-Mobile Pulse I was quite happy with an Android phone but needed a phone where I had more than 40mb free after installing 2.1. Bit of a challenge that. Overall I've been very happy, and if it makes a few iPhone owners jealous in some ways then even better.

But - the 2 major problems with the phone really do take the shine off. Whilst the lag problem can be fixed (I'm still ok with the nand fix and haven't ran out of space yet) the GPS seems much more problematic and I've yet to get it to a satisfactory setup - annoying as it was one of the major reasons I bought the device.

So whilst I'm tempted to see if I can send it back (I bought it unlocked as I prefer not to go through a contract - though I would have to argue with the nature of the hardware fault) I would miss a lot of this phone. I might be tempted to go to a desire but that might be a decision in progress...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beowulf_pt:
I think the nice SGS screen and the GPU are probably given too much weight in reviews. Truth is, does the Desire suffer from lags from slow I/O or has nasty GPS tracking issues? Probably not.

That alone has kept me away from the SGS but since I now want the nice screen and GPU I ended up buying... nothing. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
The desire had it's fare share of birthropes, which people just don't seem to remember, or don't want to remember.

Galaxy S issues are slowly clearing up, with the lag situation being much better in newer firmwares (i'm currently running JM2, which compared to the original JF3 is like a turbojet engine compared to a piston driven prop)

The only real persisting problem is the GPS, and we know it's not the hardware that's doing the mess, so it's likely to clear up as well when samsung and broadcom decide to do something about it. Maybe in the official froyo release, who knows.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] azreil24:
I for one, don`t have any problems with the GPS, it works great, and I`m running the JG5 FW, but I have a problem with videos that have AAC audio, they get out of sync with the video, and I tried every other FW and nothing, only JG5 had the lowest out of sync time. So, if one has a problem, the other has another. Considering that I don`t play videos every day, I can live with it, but what if I want to upgrade to Froyo, and that would be a sure move, what if the out sync problem persists? That is the problem in the way of the GPS too, what if updating to Froyo won`t fix the problem? Guess is just luck to get a device that has nither of the problems.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Monkey101:
Got to use a Desire today.

Although it did feel better in my hand i found the screen to be much worse.

Plus sense just did not do it for me, seemed to slow things down a lot.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gTen:
With an I/O fix..the Galaxy S does over 1700 Quadrant with Eclair 2.1..... once it gets fully running Foyo and JIT it will smoke the HTC Desire 2x fold...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
there has been several screen shots in this forum with SGS being the fastest of the pack on Eclair 2.1

and even way faster after the mimocan fix

so once we get froyo, desire will be left in the dust
[Galaxy S I9000 General] azreil24:
Yes, but in the meantime the Desire is better, it got the official Froyo first, although HTC are known for their lack of providing updates, but they did it, and they got it right from the first release. For us, another 2 months of waiting, and the date is still not sure, and judging by the test realeases I don`t think that they will do a great job. Time will tell. The thing is I like both devices, and from the two of them I would peak the DroidX, unfortunetaly it won`t come to Europe :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
You "judge" things by pre-alpha releases?

You do understand that it's practically a miracle that such releases are even usable, right?

To expect even par results (not even mentioning "good" reults) from them is going a bit too far.

Also, the Desire didn't get official froyo yet, currently it's a port from the nexus.

The galaxy S is getting froyo in a month or so, not 2.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Cranck:
No, you aren't right! The desire already has official froyo!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SkulleD_PT:
Lot has been said here. I'll throw my 2 cents in here: My Galaxy S is being shipped my way right now. That would be all :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Beowulf_pt:
We hope it is not using its own internal GPS then so it can actually FIND you then. Fingers crossed.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TudorEm:
Samsung Galaxy S i9000 or HTC Desire (Bravo)???

Hello! I have a big problem : I cannot decide between Samsung Galaxy S i9000 and HTC Desire/Bravo. I must mention that I am a multimedia user and I want any of these phones for Games, Music, Movies and Web Browsing. I have a Wi-Fi network at home. So I made a list with key features of these two phones, especially the differences.

HTC Desire--------------------------Samsung Galaxy S

-576 MB RAM (+)-----------------------512 MB RAM (-)

-512 MB ROM (-)------------------------2 GB ROM (+)

-256 MB memory (-)---------------------8 GB memory (+)

-LED Flash on Camera (+)----------------NO (-)

-AMOLED 3.7 inches (-)------------------Super AMOLED 4.0 inches (+)

-SENSE UI which I really like (+)----------Touchwiz 3.0 which is ok, but not the best (-)

-NO Swype (-)--------------------------Swype (+)

-feeble speaker (-)----------------------really nice loudspeaker (+)

-11.9 mm thick (-)----------------------- 9.9 mm thick (+)

- 135 g (-)------------------------------ 119 g (+)

- NOT filming HD (-)--------------------- filming HD (+)

- 1400 mAh battery (-)------------------1500 mAh battery (+)

- bluetooth 2.0 (-)---------------------- bluetooth 3.0 (+)

I would also consider the fact that Desire has Froyo (Android 2.2), but I believe it is unecessary, as Galaxy will receive FroYo within 2 months.

So, Desire has 3 "+"s, while Galaxy has the rest of 10 "+"s. This means that I should clearly get Samsung's Galaxy, but I am not very experienced about these phones and I might've mistaken something, so please correct me or give me some additional information.

The question remains available : "Galaxy or Desire?"
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Pika007:
If games and media is a major point for you, the desicion should be very easy-

The galaxy s plays every video format on the planet, including mkv, in 720p. You'll have little to no need to convert videos.

Also, the Desire has a pretty weak AMD Adreno 200GPU, while the Galaxy S has the monsterous PowerVR SGX540.

-you should take into consideration that currently, the GPS in the Galaxy S is a bit problematic, some users have no problems, some users say it spazzez around.

I don't know if it's critical, but definetly take notice of it. (personally, i never had a problem with it)