yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fascinate Android Development] DrewDanger:
Ok so craziest thing just happened. Ive had SetCPU on my phone for a few weeks now without a single problem. Tonight I went to uninstall it and when I did my screen went dark, almost a dark gray as though it was trying to light up.

If I went through the Market to uninstall it or through settings and applications it would lock my phone up as soon as I clicked uninstall and I would have to pull the battery and restart it. Phone would restart fine but if I let it sit for a few seconds the screen would go black and not come back on and the soft keys would light up.

The way I finally got rid of it was to pull the memory card, reboot the phone, go into applications through the menu, force stop the app (SetCPU) then uninstall it. Seems to be running fine now, but have no idea what caused it.
[Fascinate Android Development] RacerXFD:
What setting did you have it on?

There was a discussion about how on demand doesn't work. Conservative is the only one that works. I ended up having to reboot five times before I realized that the only variable that I changed was that...
[Fascinate Android Development] DrewDanger:
I had it set to conservative. I just noticed with it installed my battery wasnt lasting as long. I went to uninstall it and all hell broke loose
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azzeh3:
First of all Im new to the forum so hello lol

I have a question about qualcomm...I know that the scorpion processor in the next generation 45 nm chip but what I dont understand is why is it clocked at 800mhz?

The made it such a big deal crossing the 1ghz mark and I would assume that they would never look back. I might not have my facts straight but dosent the 45 nm run clock-cycles just like a 65 nm but more efficiently in respect of battery consumption.

It looks as if they wanted to get in on the low-end Android market share. As for the G2 which I love, my friend ran quadrant pro infront of me and it shows the cpu was scored what looked like 20% lower than the nexus one at 2.2 (my guess from looking at it) but of coarse the gpu trashed the nexus one.

I saw a interview on engadget about a week ago about googles executive that said soon there will be a clear distinction or line between low end Android and high end Android devices. I wonder if HTC is in contact with google about future updates in order to release devices adequate enough to run them or are they just blindly releasing high build quality devices lol

Sorry about the long post but I had come up with a few questions that I didn't want to ask anywhere else.

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mejorguille:
Wait until our geniuses figure out root then you can happily run it a 1 Ghz+. If you look at the spec scheets for the MSM7230 then you will see it's rated for speeds 800-1000. Higher speeds=lower battery life, so the reasons for having it clocked lower are very practical. My G2 can average 1600-1650 on quadrant, so I don't think it's that bad.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kludgineer:
MHz is a misleading statistic to judge performance by. A 1GHz processor is not guaranteed to be faster than an 800MHz one. What is always true, though, is that a given processor running at 1GHz will take more energy than the same processor running at 800MHz. Because these new processors are so fast, even at 800MHz, they are competitive or even faster than any other phone on the market today. However by clocking them a bit slower, they also have quite serviceable battery life.

In daily use, it is unlikely that you would notice much difference between 800MHz and 1GHz with this cpu. They are both plenty fast, and most of the time the CPU will be waiting for you, not the other way around. However if it were clocked at 1GHz, you would immediately see a shorter battery life, so to my mind the sacrifice is well worth it.

As far as any fears that this might be a "low end phone", make no mistake, this is the premiere Android phone on the market right now. The Droid 2 may have a higher profile, but it is slower, has a slower network, and uses a non-standard GUI (not to mention a whole lot more expensive when you factor in the price of the service). No phone will have every possible feature that people want, but as far as raw capabilities go, there is no better phone on the market today as far as I can see.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azzeh3:
Those seem to be very valid points and thanks for the input..

One other thing when exactly do you need 1ghz of processing speed?? I mean back in the day the macbook air used a 1.5 ghz processor..

Also where dose the ram come into play?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kludgineer:
RAM is a far bigger determiner of performance on a day-to-day basis than processor speed, at least to a point. You could have a 10GHz computer, but if you only had 64k of RAM it would crawl along miserably slow.

In either case, there is a point of diminishing returns, though as applications become more demanding that point gets higher and higher. I remember selling Mac's back in the early-mid 90's and telling eople, don't worry, 16Megs of RAM (a huge amount back then when the standard was 4MB) would handle anything they could throw at it. Little did I know that just 15 years later I would have 500x that much in my desktop and 32x as much in my cell phone! :-)

I am by no means a Andoid systems expert, but from what I have read there is not much benefit of having more than 512MB of RAM with the current versions of the Android OS. I would have preferred that they included 1GB of RAM just for a future growth path, but I can understand why they didn't. Each of these features costs money, so you have to draw the line someplace, you can't included every feature people may ask for in every phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azzeh3:
Your right lol How will the big companies make any money if they give you everything you wanted....

I've never kept a phone for more than 8 months because of updated stats but lately there is a boom in technology so its going to be more like 4 months now hahaha
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] pseudoswede:
I'm coming from a Nokia 5800. Although the software was buggy as hell, Ovi Suite was still a great piece of software to sync all of my phone's data to a local copy of my PC (as opposed to Google's nosy cloud storage).

Ideally looking for something that could archive my contacts--as well as abilities to create/change/delete on my PC which would then sync with the phone. Also download all SMS's, photos/videos taken, and manage music.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] sunofnothing:
If what I've read is true, google music should take care of this, its supposedly an itunes-like software
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] bfletcher6147:
Check out Double Twist. There is PC software and an app. Not sure if it would cover all your needs (ive never used it), but it appears to be a decent itunes clone for not just Android but other devices.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] fastludeh22:
theres an app callled mybackup in the market. it will back everything up to the sdcard, then u can copy backup to pc if this helps.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] pseudoswede:
Since people aren't too familiar with Ovi Suite: I need something like Palm Desktop for Android, and I don't want to pay $40 for CompanionLink.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] rpmccormick:
Dude, you need to learn to love the cloud.

From GMail/GMaps/GVoice/GDocks/GCal/Picassa, I have every email, sms, voicememo, picture, video, call history, transcribed voicemail, task, appointment, map location, contact, document, etc. All from any webbrowser in any location, all damn-near instantly synced with my phone.

...but to answer you question, search for HTC Sync. I think it only works with Sense tho, so you will have to wait and flash the Z firmware once the hackers make the g2 flashable.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] pseudoswede:
Dude, I love the cloud.

But I also love having a local copy on my computers (which I back up regularly and save to my Dropbox). Being able to edit contacts and calendar entries without having to bring up a webpage is huge to me.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] rpmccormick:
Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I live and work on the cloud. I never run any backups. I store nothing locally other than 4TB of pirated moves/tv. Being able to access everything from anywhere even if my house has no electricity is huge to me.

What's so bad about opening up a webpage? Opening outlook or whatever doesn't seem any different to me. Unless I am using my computer as a TV, all I ever need from it is a webbrowser, which is nice since every computer and smartphone in the world has one.

I do program ASP.NET/Win32/other and need that dev environment, but that too is all running on a VirtualPC in the cloud.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] arthurbrownleeiv:
Not all of us always have constant data access, nor want to depend on it.

Plus, the difference between a webpage and outlook is MASSIVE.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] rpmccormick:
I know this is a pointless argument, but I am curious if you have ever given gmail with gtalk-desktop in your tray a real chance?

I used outlook at a job for work and personal for 6 years, then used outlook for work another 5 while using gmail for personal, and for the last 2 I have been gmail only. I always had the newest version on the newest os, but not in the last 2 years.

In outlook I was always sorting and running a search all was always dog slow. I can find anything in gmail as easily as finding any webpage with google. Gmail integrates with google calendar just as well as outlook and they can sync to eachother. Just sayin.

...anyway, did you look in to HTC Sync? Also, you could always run an exchange server at home and sync over the air.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] matt_sd:
I'd probably choose services that keep the home PC synced with the cloud, keeping a local copy of what GMail etc use. Enough people do that that there are tools for that, and of course your phone syncs easily with the cloud. I think enough Android users drink the Google kool aid that there's not as much interest in syncing directly phone to PC without using the cloud as an intermediary. After years of wired syncing, I'm thrilled to have it work without any work on my part, personally.

But a search did turn up both The Missing Sync for Android and Handset Manager - both look to still be a bit buggy, but maybe they'll do the job or be worth watching.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] rmcsc:
We need HTC to make HTC Sync for non-Sense phones. Period.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] mptpro:
Totally agree, That's the only way to go, really. When I moved up from my Moto Cliq to the G2 it took all of 5 minutes to get my phone the way I wanted. The hardest part was customizing my icon on the home screen. The data all synced from Google. My list of installed apps was backed up via "App List Backup" and I just re-installed them. Done.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
This ROM is only for SAMSUNG SGH-i617

Welcome to my rom "Stand Alone Complex" or "S.A.C." for short.​

this is a Blackjack 2 rom, my first one. it's based off of py8's 6.5 rom, this is a work in progress, so please be patient. please leave your feedback and any ideas you have to improve this rom. thanks

if you need to know how to flash this rom on xp,vista or W7 please look at the other thread i use to host my 607 rom, or click here

Thanks to py8 for sharing his i617 files with me, and allowing me to use his rom as a starting point.

and to all of those that tested and gave feedback.

Rom Info:

9_SAC 617 Rom.7z

is the FINAL Version of my Roms.

HotFile

Donators:

Much appreciated and many thanks.

Aitrus

vanarie
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
[S.A.C.][ROM Photos]

NRG weather NRG weather
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
[Change Log:] I617 Stand Alone Complex [History]

these are changes i've made from py8's 6.5 28004/23121 rom to my own.

My Roms 15.Nov.2010 and later are in the first post download links.

07.Nov.2010 and earlier are no longer hosted.

change log info:

(+) added

(-) removed

(~) changed

(!) fixed

19.Dec.2010_SAC (FINAL) change log:

9_SAC 617 ROM.7z

(~) CE OS 5.2.23121 (build 21745.5.0.27 “from samsung jack”)

(~) changed microsoft flag to a cube

(+) MetroWP7Simple131dpi homescreen by (mjsheldon4 or Cocholipop)

(-) calling style in settings/home screen, also its just plain now *incoming/outgoing calls are faster*

Bugs: will be written here.

Random Keyboard Freezes.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] tj_style:
Great release Bro... :)
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
thanks man, i hope things pick up for this now out dated phone lol.

and thank you Spiaatie for stating things more clearly. :)
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] gahbmwm5:
Hey Hey Dermann...

Looks great m8, and will test_flash to it in the next couple of days...

Like all your threads, you do a great job with full descriptions of 'work_modded' and keep us all very informed! It is a lot of work that I'm sure is much appreciated!

Being your 1st_Beta 6.5 ROM for the i617, it sure looks nice and the more constructive feedback that you (hopefully) will receive, the better (within reason)...lol

Also being on AT&T, it is nice not have to fool around with the various data, MMS settings, and like 'your tweaked i607 GUI'...easy on the eyes...!

:cool:
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
i early await your feedback. :D
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] DooMaster:
This is really great !, I was using the 6.5 from py8 and I wasnt able to use GPS, so I went back to AT&T 6.1 but is a pain in the ass to config GPRS settings, unlock other options and the tons of bloatware.

I will download right now, I will feedback the ROM in a few Days.

Thanks for this realease !
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] xxxx11111:
awesome, hope this continues!
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] xxxx11111:
Also, have you tried 23529?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
i have not. changing the builds is my achilles heel when i comes to making roms.

i have tried a number of times and each time i get a unsuccessful boot. but i haven't given up yet.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] gahbmwm5:
Still out of town, or I would have flashed to this promising 6.5 ROM a couple days ago...Need my ole BJII i617 presently without any 'possible issues'...lol

Dermann, hope that you do not mind, but I would like to get this thread, 'jump started' and posting about your hard work_efforts and a couple of other Mobile sites:

Hello,

I do not mean to distract from this great site, but my friend Dermann (We both go back to the olde TxCaesar BJI i607 site) has received files from py8 for his Chinese/Eng i617 BJII 6.5 ROM, and has started a thread @ Xda-Developers...

We need to give him some good feedback as he has put a lot of work into this somewhat dated device, to make a stable 6.5 ROM for this still popular device, so please head on-over-there for further discusssion, bug reports, feedback...

[ROM] [Samsung SGH-i617] [WWE] WM6.5 28004 ~Stand Alone Complex~ [Build 04.Oct.2010]

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=800850
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] gahbmwm5:
'Dermann57 SAC

i617 aww I'll just release the upcoming rom i have here. I'll fix bugs as i go. see change log for what's different.'

Good deal man, as I am back to my laptop (today-Sunday) and will flash and report back on your thread!

btw: Were you able to solve the darn time bug that had always been present in py8 ROM?? lol, this always killed moi!

Also, I know that you modded a 320 x 240.cpr file for moi so that I could utilize 1.2 NRG weather app so your great 6.5 theme that works well with my present 6.1 MR- ROM..., will any of NRG weather apps work with WM 6.5...have been sort of-out-of-touch-recently will following various mobile tweaks, apps...lol

Ok, thoroughly reviewed this thread again...NRG Mini Weather 1.2--->and see posts here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4952254&highlight=Work+WM6.5?#post4952254

Not sure if it will work--->NRG Weather 1.2---->with your modded 320 x 240 .cpr file that worked with Samsung MR 6.1 ROM, and your 6.5 theme...lol ??

And just found this, as I would rather be outside enjoying much CA sunshine, and enjoying Bahama Mamas!!!!!

Fill a Collins glass with crushed ice. Combine the following in a shaker with ice. 1/2 oz. Light Rum 1/2 oz. Light Rum 1/2 oz. Dark Rum 1/2 oz. Coconut.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4936748&postcount=906

LOL...

Just viewed this on your i607--->[ROM][BlackJack|I607][21854][27.Sept.2010] Stand Alone Complex [PLUS|py8][ROM] thread:

Weather for PY8/Dermann Rom <---- Download Here.

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:confused::rolleyes:;)
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
i believe i've fixed it. it auto updates for me.

i was about to upload the next rom when i noticed a bug. the camera key on the keyboard doesn't bring up the camera, instead it trys to open a camera.lnk from somewhere else. will fix that then upload.

thanks for the mixed drink recipe. will try it tomorrow, ;)

the nrg weather will work on here, but it will take some modding. the py8 weather should work, though i haven't tried it myself.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] gahbmwm5:
Very Good and take your time, and most importanly have fun...I had a couple earlier today 10:00 am-hair_of_The_Dog when I first posted....they kicked in real fast! So here is the correct recipe...lol

Ingredients 1/2 fluid ounce rum

1/2 fluid ounce coconut-flavored rum

1/2 fluid ounce grenadine syrup

1 fluid ounce orange juice

1 fluid ounce pineapple juice

1 cup crushed ice

Directions1. Combine regular rum, rum with coconut flavoring, grenadine, orange juice, pineapple juice and crushed ice in an electric blender. Blend until the drink's consistency is slushy.

The above was a recipe that I got 'hooked on' when cruising...lol I like to also combine 1/2 ounce dark rum....a slight touch or so of 151 proof rum....lol, then the other ingredients....

Did not see the camera key bug.....good catch there! As I really hope that we have a following on this thread to revive life back into this device, like the original Ejoya 6.1 ROM did for the BJ I i607...!

I will also report back regarding the various weather apps, and how they 'line up properly' within the 6.5 panels....probably on Monday afternoon...

:cool:
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
recipes copy n pasted. :D

got the camera key bug fixed. had to hex the keypad S000, it was my first time hexing too. i'm so surprised and happy that it worked. :)

good deal, will wait for your weather feedback.

...should i add one in, or make a cab for others to add themselves...
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
for those that want to stay with py8's rom, but don't know how to change the internet and cv keyboard keys. here you go.

in you windows folder, look for these:

py8_go_i.lnk

py8_go_m.lnk

copy to your computer and edit them with some sort of text editor. *i use Notepad* and copy back to your phone.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] gahbmwm5:
Yes indeed as I recall my first experience with utilizing a hex editor when I was into completely modding my ole XP laptop with the 'aqua emulation' look... I think that I used this German one...freeware and good!

http://www.chmaas.handshake.de/delphi/freeware/xvi32/xvi32.htm---->not sure how/if it works on Vista/Win7...?

I have a meeting this morning as my gf is using my i617--->she is trying to sell a home, and needs its unlimited data plan...lol!

If you can upload a weather.cab that will work with this 6.5 ROM...I would appreciate, as this would save me time, as in 'not getting slack from her' as why my device is not operating properly....why do you need to format it again..bla, bla.....lol

No biggie if not as I will have time this afternoon (test weather apps), and will make sure that we are both full of above mentioned 'libations'...!!!

I like the light-weightness of NRG 1.2 mini weather....but am use to having it on your great 6.5 theme for my present setup---->in my sig...

:cool:

Here is the modded 320 x 240.cpr file that you were kind enough to build for me to work with 6.5 theme and NRG 1.2 weather:
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] gahbmwm5:
Apologies for the double-ish post here gang, however Dermann have been following your Twitter Tweets, and will patiently await for 'completed work' as you are working on both your i607 and i617 ROMS...at the same time!

Kind-of-off-topic (however this tech related), I have been having a blast finally being able to D/L and install updated Nvidia GPU drivers for this 2 yr old laptop, as the OEM has GPU drivers dated @2007!

Hell my card is integrated, and I do not 'game' at all, but am curious to see how these newer_Beta Nvidia GPU perform for my two browsers...FF 4.0b6, and IE 9---->both have hardware acceleration enabled...lol

Just having fun....!
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] xxxx11111:
I've been using your Oct 4 build without any big problems for a week now, so good work!

notes: might be good to ship with NoData and add a BandSel link to Programs, and if you managed to merge in the latest Windows Live from 6.5 phones that would be impressive. Google's winmo app is broken, but that's apparently their fault.

Also, why remove java? Still useful for native gmail, unfortunately.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
well everyone, this is going to be a terrible christmas. in the process of flashing a test rom to fix a screw up i made in a previous test rom, i broke my power button clean off the motherboard. so... their will be no more future releases and the one that's out now will become the final release.

sorry everyone.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] gahbmwm5:
Dam...my friend, the powerbutton off the BJII...?
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] dermann:
ya, i first thought i just pushed to hard and it fell in. but after i took it apart i found the entire power button broken.

it's a sad day for me, so i'm going to drink it up.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] TimelesslyPrecise:
Well Damn Dermann,

I'd Hate to be your keyboard... Lmao

This whole situation, (and i apologize to be so annoyingly trendy when i say..) can be best summed up as an 'Epic Fail'!! Lol

Of course, by 'this whole situation' i mean dermann's efforts in turning on the phone...:o

All the rest of the hardwork has been Splendid, Wonderful work!!!

No other can say they would carry on the development of software in which would be used not even as their primary phone...

Dermann, Thanks for all your efforts man!!! I definitely appreciate the efforts in revival that solely your efforts have contributed toward.

(also paying respect to those who crash test'd and contributed in the overall troubleshoot and development aspect of the project here on the forum.)

Thanks Everybody, You know who you are!!!

If i didn't need mine, i would ship it right up to you!!

(Actually, it's a definite possibility too, just weighing out whether i want a new provider or not.. looking at the Droid X, i would say it is appealing nonetheless.)

Well, I myself will be continuing research on the system functions and looking into how and why it is locking up after alarm, and Lock. If all else fails, maybe just strip and clean a 6.1 Rom to use until the phone dies... Lol

Well, I know i will be stopping by from time to time to check up on you guys, Maybe we all will have the same phone again on next Upgrade; so see you in the forums..

Der,

You'lle probably get a few emails from myself from time to time, just with minor questions about this and that.

lol

Here i am talking like it's the end of the world.. :\

Derm, may your phone rest in piece('s) Lol

****

Edit,

I think it's now hilarious, that when i post this reply, and looking back on the thread, how the Droid X is being advertised right underneath Dermann's post.. Lol