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[Desire HD General] Tapori_UK:
Depends if you mind:

- Orange logo on the battery cover; which you could replace I guess.

- rooting and flashing using the guide in the dev section; AFAIK, all pretty easy with a new method http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=857537

Depends on what "deal" you get IMO.

I'm fairly patient, so could wait till the good Dev folks allowed me to remove all the branded network stuff.

Pricewiise, 20 pounds a month, 600 mins, internet, ultd txts = 480 for 2 years in total, was fine for me as an upgrade.

Contracts are great as a retention deal, or if you can't stump up the cash upfront; but do the sums for

the length of the contract VS sim only card + unlocked phone
[Desire HD General] emreeken:
DHD will be in Turkey in January. HTC Turkey announced that yesterday.
[Desire HD General] kishengajjar:
I got it, I got it...got it this morning...intercepted the postman on the way to work :D

It's on my desk charging right now...can't start playing with it until I finish some work, but hardware looks nice and clean. Battery panel, etc...

Yipee :) Gonna celebrate tonight!
[Desire HD General] sromer:
I received mine from clove yesterday.

Great phone haven't had any problems at all & the battery life had been pretty good so far ( even though I've been using it nearly nonstop )
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
Dear all,

As of now, Is there any shops with stock

in London/England

that we can walk by and buy an unlocked Desire HD to use in other countries and what is the price range?

I see approx £450 on the Carphonewarehouse web site for pay and go, are these unlocked and unbranded phones and prices including tax or etc?
[Desire HD General] FrikyBCN:
Finally picked up my Desire HD today in Barcelona! Got a great deal too from Vodafone - Euro 29 for the phone, and only Euro 25 per month contract with 1000 minutes of calls. Definitely cheaper than buying it unlocked!

Now to start playing with this beauty!
[Desire HD General] kishengajjar:
Hi there.

Carphone Warehouse handsets will all be unlocked.
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
1) Thanks for the reply and are they branded or unbranded?

2) Also does Carphone Warehouse have stock as of now?

3) Do they provide VAT Refund (or Rebate) directly for tourists?
[Desire HD General] matesims23:
Is this phone worth it?? i want one so bad
[Desire HD General] kishengajjar:
CPW will be unbranded. Can't comment on stock levels though...

Tax Free forms are usually available in most physical shops.
[Desire HD General] canboca:
i will be in london in about 10 days and just like eozen81 i'm looking to buy one from a physical shop. But I think carphonewarehouse has branded phones because there are both pay as you go and sim free menus in the website. So I think the pay as you go phones are different than sim free phones.
[Desire HD General] kishengajjar:
From all of my experience so far, even when Carphone Warehouse sell a phone on contract, it will always be unbranded. They do not get their phones from the networks
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
My friend asked Carephone Warehouse today and the seller confirmed verbally that the phone is unbranded.

If I decide to buy it (I mean my friend) I will ask her to confirm version number should be something like x.xx.405.x
[Desire HD General] canboca:
eozen81 kardes bana da haber verir misin arkadasın sorunca ben de kesin alıcam o telefonu ama carphone ware'den alayim bari fiyatı da cok ucuz.
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
Hey my friend, English only here. I have sent your reply via PM.
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
Hey guys,

Just to make sure about something I am looking at Carephone Warehouse "Pay And Go" page and what do those carriers' names mean here? From the discussions and sellers' comments I think the phone is unlocked and unbranded. If so what the hell these represent :)
[Desire HD General] ZENITHJAIN:
when it is going to launch in india !!!!! very xcited about this one

cant wait to have 1

but with warranty from htc so official launch is needed
[Desire HD General] olivierlee:
I'm not sure, but it seems to me that you can get the phone with a pay as you go SIM card and "plan". You may want to look at the Handset Only tab.
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
Thanks olivierlee, yes once you look out "Headset Only" It's no carriers' logo and the price is 454.95
[Desire HD General] canboca:
Guys is there any street store in LONDON, OTHER than carphone warehouse which sells HTC Desire HD for sim-free ? I want to buy the Black one but according to carphone warehouse website, they only have Brown and brown is a disaster colour in mobile phones. So I need to find a STREET STORE which sells sim-free Black HTC Desire HD. Thanks for your replies
[Desire HD General] olivierlee:
There is no black one out. They are all brown and the brown is a nice colour.
[Desire HD General] mean-machine:
If someone asked me what colour it is, I wouldn't even say it's brown :D

If you're still waiting or thinking whether to buy it, hang on till the new phones using nvidia tegra 2 architecture are released... Looks like Motorola Atrix and LG Optimus 2X will be the phones to beat, esp. Motorola with it's 16:9 960x540 screen and 1900MAh battery :)
[Desire HD General] BartOtten:
What's in the box

* Battery

* Charger

* USB Cable

* Standard Headset

* 8GB Memory Card
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
I've already mentioned this but I don't know if anyone noticed...

T-Mobile say it has 4GB internal storage + 8GB MSDHC...

Yet everywhere else says that it's 1.5GB internal (including HTC!)...whats the dealio here?
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
You know what, i think the Desire HD is the same as the G2 in that there's 4 GB internal hardware, but HTC is only allowing 1.5GB for the user. I havent been following the G2 progress, but i think this could be accessible with some hack.
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Another month without a damned alarm clock!?! WHAT THE HELL !
[Desire HD General] Inoran:
I ordered mine at Smartphoneshop.be.

It has been delayed from 8 to 15 to 27th now.

I emailed them and they assured me that 27th is latest date that i will have the phone.

My guess is they'll get them the week before and delivering the latest on 27th! :-)
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
NICE!!

But what the hell is a "class-leading 4.3 inch touchscreen display". :) Let's hope S-LCD!
[Desire HD General] JonathanCassar:
I just phoned T-mobile again they say availability is delayed til the end of October
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
wow - its on the way! but i think that the first shipping is for vodafon and tm.

the sim-free will be on the market in the 19th
[Desire HD General] riz157:
I'm getting all excited now with this breaking news, ordered with Vodafone and T-mobile.:D

I probably go with T-mobile, even if it is slightly more expensive as their customer services I feel are better and tend to be more helpful.
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
I hate to say it, but I told you so!

All this hype about stock now being shipped to resellers and stuff is probably just myth too.

Amazon seem to be the only ones who are giving regular updates (even if they are horrible ones)
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Expansys doesnt confirm avaiability in the next 7 days as it shows in the website, they predict it will be avaiable before the end of the month. Nothing sure.
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
According to amazon support answers, the dates on amazon are set by the manufractor. so HTC went to their amazon product page and wrote 11.10.2010 or now 16.11... but why they do an anouncement now? this all is ****in' crazy... (like my english, sry)

Just give us the phone :eek:
[Desire HD General] gcd:
http://www.techwatch.co.uk/2010/10/12/vodafone-confirms-oct-22nd-for-desire-hd/
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
I hope this article is true.

HTC: no delays to Desire HD and Z

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/htc/8058748/HTC-no-delays-to-Desire-HD-and-Z.html

BTW, anyone here knows a little about Hong Kong dales dates?
[Desire HD General] abrasive:
Never heard of that manufacturers can update the delivery date themselves, but then again, Amazon is a big company. I'm going to try not getting excited every time someone says a retailer has said something until there's some solid proof and not just a "we think it'll be here in a week, now, just hang up the phone".

Regarding the articles on telegraph, sounds good, but I don't know how reliable they are? Also, why can't HTC make an official announcement on weather the rumors are true or not if "sources" from HTC leeks this information anyway? Meeh.
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
Talked to some t-mobile uk ppl and they have the 18th as the day they will get stock on there system.

Dunno what amazon are doing lol the facebook HTC UK ppl are positive its a Oct realease so. :-|
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
I guess we've all been led down a rabbit hole by retailers offering very false release dates. HTC, bless them, have actually not once mentioned a release date. Sure enough the press release and launch event say "October" with no specific day.

So as long as handsets start shipping out before the end of October then HTC have kept their promise.

I feel kinda bad, but at the same time, Amazon are still saying Mid November...
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
This must be the most ridiculous release of a mobile phone after the X10..
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
Well like has been stated befor HTC said october and as long as we have the device by then there has been no delay.... Really lol

Still amazons date is pesimistic lol im still thinking the week starting the 18th oct. :D
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
im really hoping Amazon are just putting up a date for worst case scenario! I dont want to wait more than a month to get it!!
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
Im shure they will ship by the end of this month. HTC have said there is no delay so im shure amazon will ship befor the end of the month :-)
[Desire HD General] Chimero:
They better do it quick.. I can barely control myself from throwing the iPhone into my "has-been phone" shoebox.

I tried contacting handTec to identify if they would be including me int the first list of clients to receive the Desire and they said they could not be sure. However they have ordered a huge quantity of stock so I should keep my hopes high.

Now, if they run out of stock before I get my unit, All hells gonna break loose and I'm gonna cry myself to sleep :(
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
Guys sorry for asking here but I am considering to buy this device from Hong Kong and anyone knows how I can track Hong Kong sales dates?
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
not yet, the phone will come on eu first, mybe after that in other countrys
[Desire HD General] oawalker:
Mobilefun has changed there release date to 01/11/2010!!

Pre order available from carphonewarehouse release date this Thursday, but only 1 Tariff

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/news/coming-soon
[Desire HD General] StCory:
Just throwing an idea into the mix i know its not about the release date but related do you think the extended "google testing" is because of htcs new anti root chip ? is it in violation of the license
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
If they have at least one project manager, I would say no! :rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] gwud:
Mobilefun

I've just had this email from mobilefun.co.uk, which is a shame as I ordered the phone on 16th September hoping to use the sale of my Desire to pay for a chunk of it. I can hear my phone becoming less and less sellable as the days go on.

Mobile Fun Customer Support to me

show details 15:21 (10 minutes ago)

Hi,

It has i'm afraid now expected early November. We know HTC have had a few teething problems with certain upgrades they made which is more than likely the cause of delay.

Rob Byers

Customer Relations Executive
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
that ...., damn, i have an headache with all the release dates and the delays :rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] oawalker:
I know there are too many different dates, i give up now!

when ever it comes it comes
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
same here, will stay with the N85 until then :cool:
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Oh man, HTC have just announced that the 7 Pro is coming to the UK...

...do I hang on for the DHD or do I give up and hope the 7 Pro comes out in reasonable time.

Honestly this experience with the DHD is really souring what would have been my exciting transition to Android :(
[Desire HD General] slateac:
The 7 Pro isn't coming until next year and TBH there are better WP7 or Android phones such as HD7, Surround and of course, the Desire HD
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
dazultra2000 - dont do it, dont leave the droid for "windows" close source!

and if so - when the DHD will release (some day) you will eat your heart!
[Desire HD General] onesolo:
Hmm?!?! This is a common behavior from HTC

This happened with the Wildfire, HTC Pro, Touch HD, etc...
[Desire HD General] ardsar:
What date was given by HTC? Only a October launch. From all the dates being posted, it appears the blame should be on the stores, unless HTC can not deliver in October.
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Indeed, judging from the Telegraph post that was linked to earlier, that is completely correct.

The problem that is now creeping out of the woodwork is retailers are giving dates in November (even as late as the 22nd!) which means that HTC actually have delayed the handset!
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
Thanks for the reply man.

What is your guess upon previous experiences maybe that how many days after europe's sales it will be sold in hong kong?
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
that is hard one, coz its very uniq to evry device. if you want my guesswork - few months after the eu, the asia will get it. btw: you can find one soon, jest buy it on ebay, or web that ship worldwide like clove.uk.
[Desire HD General] mikejasonsmith:
Just got off the phone to Superetrader and they told me that HTC have confirmed a release date of the 29th!!!!!

What a load of b*******ks this has turned out to be
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
This is all just sill now ;-P

Hah lol they said it was the 29th to but also they will get the devices the same time as every one else so if someone in the UK gets it on the 14th they will have it on the 14th to ect. ect.

I still think no one really knows, mainly as every retailer has a different date :confused:

T-Mobile UK said stock in on the 18th Oct, Vodaphone 22nd oct, superEtrader 29th, Others 18-22nd, Amazon just said sod it and put worst case down.

TBH if there was a "confirmed date by HTC" everyone would have that date or later.

I think HTC said it will be mid to late october and the retailers are extrapalating on that ...... not doing a good job tho.
[Desire HD General] mikejasonsmith:
The big dillema now is - do i cancel my preorder and wait to see what early 2011 brings or wait another 2 weeks ???
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
id wait ...

the HD7 is out 2011 and its specs are lower than the DesireHD .... less ram mainly.
[Desire HD General] tomer4321765:
do you think a store like clove is right about relase dates they write?
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
No-one is right. Clove gave at least 2 dates which turned out wrong.

I'm not sure if there's anywhere who is yet to be proven wrong - I guess Amazon bumped the dates up before it had a chance to be wrong - but so far we can't trust any dates that are out there until someone actually gets an email telling them their order has been dispatched.
[Desire HD General] tomer4321765:
In the end they will ship you this phone next year LOL
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
Also superEtraders e-mail support says 29th where on twitter they say

http://twitter.com/#!/SuperEtrader/status/27148724114

:confused:

this fules the NO ONE KNOWS argument :eek:

------- Edit --------

I know this is for the DesireZ but they are supposed to be on the same timeframe
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
I just bumped into my friend who has just started work as 1st line support for HTC in the UK and he says that the "inside word" is that they will start shipping on the 19th. He also said that apparently some Vodafone preorders have already shipped and that his colleagues are expecting them tomorrow...

Could all still be rubbish though :/
[Desire HD General] mikejasonsmith:
I gave up my Blackberry 9700 mid September thinking I would get the HD around the 6th Oct....grrrr its so frustrating not being able to see email etc on the move :( The thought of spending another 2weeks without access is killing me - i need a cheap BB and fast!!! lol
[Desire HD General] abrasive:
Sounds like you trust your friend? :p
[Desire HD General] Wafster:
I just want my phone :(. This is my 1st smart phone, I have been following the Desire for months but couldn't afford it cuz I was unemployed, and now I have a job and I ordered the DHD cuz I fell inlove with it. It will smoke my wife's Galaxy S into a pile of melted plastic.:D
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
wow, months? That's horrible to hear that man. I was hoping my friend can buy one for November visit in Hong Kong, my dreams run off suddenly. :confused: What a nonsense thing an Asian company makes it's first launch in Europe and Asian people can buy it only after months.

It's something Steve Jobs starts to sell Iphone first in China then after months in U.S.A :rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] Wafster:
I have contacted HTC Middle East and Asia and they said 1Q 2011, so I pre-ordered mine on Amazon
[Desire HD General] emreeken:
Here it says November in Asia.

(I can't copy the link here as a new user)

Availability and pricing

The new HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z will be available through mobile operators and retailers across major Asian markets from November 2010.
[Desire HD General] Axiol:
Fortunately I have not sold my Milestone immediately as I wanted to do at the beginning ^^
[Desire HD General] Wafster:
"Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. With regards to your inquiry, The HTC Desire HD has just been announced officially but the release date has not been declared yet. We expect the release to be within Q1 2011 but we cannot be more specific yet, however you can contact us later for more information regarding the release date for the HTC Desire HD at the Middle East"
[Desire HD General] eozen81:
Wow Q1-2011 is the worst I guess :)

From your sing, I see that you are from Dubai. Could you please give me that Amazon pre-order link so that I can check out If they will ship to Hong Kong :)
[Desire HD General] Wafster:
Amazon won't ship outside the UK but you can try other sites
[Desire HD General] madindehead:
You do know that HTC didn't ever actually announce a release date. They said October. As long as it's released in October, they are fine.
[Desire HD General] Idree:
Just checked where i pre/ordered, Telfort.nl website in the Netherlands.

Confirmed that it´s delayed till 11-11-10

=/
[Desire HD General] Eddie1506:
Actually, that's not true. I've successfully placed an order to be shiped to Austria and it went through.

I also had lenghty discussions with couple of customer service representatives and they all confirmed to me that there will be no problems shipping to Austria.
[Desire HD General] Axiol:
I've successfully placed an order to be shiped to Belgium too and it's OK :)
[Desire HD General] s32bauer:
In stock with T-Mobile

Well, I spotted the Desire HD on the T-Mobile website, which I assumed was just for pre-orders. However, after speaking to someone in their customer service team, it would appear that they do have it in-stock. The reason they are stating pre-orders is because there has apparently been a high demand for it, and therefore people have to allow up to 10 days for delivery!
[Desire HD General] Axiol:
Little theory :

If the problem is only a problem with software, maybe the devices are already in stock, but that HTC is delaying the release to be able to deploy an update to correct this problem.

Would be great no ^^
[Desire HD General] xazac:
I've found this: click
[Desire HD General] Axiol:
Would be great ^^ And they're right on one point : HTC said October and we're still on October.
[Desire HD General] abrasive:
That was posted a few pages back if I remember correctly.

Regarding Amazon and deliveries outside UK, it's not true in any way. They even have a currency converter built in to their homepage. You can order from the US if you want to as well.

@Axiol:

Forget what I said, read Sint-Niklaas, not Saint-Nicolas :p
[Desire HD General] Axiol:
Yeah, there is a Saint-Nicolas in Flanders (Sint-Niklaas) and one in Wallonia (Saint-Nicolas), as if it was not complicated enough ^^
[Desire HD General] crossbox:
What's the dealio is that T-mobile don't know their arse from their elbow. Sorry - been lurking for a while, been waiting eagerly for this phone to come out and was online at 0030 this morning ordering as soon as it came up on their website. Today they tell me I've been "credit declined" which is insane considering what I earn. Logged on to the top 2 credit rating agencies on line for credit reports, including the one they recommend in their email, and both confirm I could get a loan to finance a small island in the carribean (or a 2 bed in London :D ). So their credit decisions are basically made by some moron sitting in a dark cupboard flipping a coin.

So I gave up on trying to give them my money and just bought it cash from Handtec - which is actually going to work out cheaper if I just go to a sim-only deal when I upgrade with 02 (who aren't even getting the phone - wtf ??) in Dec, plus I don't have to deal with their crappy CS for the next 18 months. I should be thanking them I guess :D

Best was the phone discussion with their CS agent ....

CS: "You can't have the tarrif you applied for "

ME: "Why?"

CS: "The computer say you've been credit declined"

ME: "That must be a mistake - who can I talk to about this"

CS: "You can write a letter to ..."

ME: "I don't want to write a letter I want to speak to someone today, I want this sorted out as soon as possible"

CS: "You can't speak to anyone, but you can get a pay as you go sim ...."

ME: "Does that come with a phone ?"

CS: "No but ...."

ME: "Then why would I want it?"

CS: "Well if you keep payments up on it for 6 months you can build up your credit record"

ME: "But there's nothing wrong with my credit record"

CS: "Well the computer says ...."

:rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
While working at Orange I'd see company CEOs get rejected for a contract - but I'd see chav scum breeze in and get a £50/month tariff.

I can't explain it!
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
http://www.mobiles.co.uk/htc-desire-hd.html points to a 15/10/2010 release!
[Desire HD General] squalllion1uk:
People who have more debt have a better credit history because they earn companys money they have debt and pay it back where as people who pay straight up have a worse credit rating as they havent had any credit really.
[Desire HD General] vovanopulo:
Yeap, it is US general economy idea - to encourage sinking in debts.
[Desire HD General] liorra3:
ok... i will stay with the "old" release date: 18-22th ~ and hope that will stay the same ;)
[Desire HD General] adwinp:
Like I previously mentioned: a few lucky ones will get their DHDs by Saturday; the rest (whose who preordered early enough) should be getting theirs during next week.

Phones will be sent in batches due to high demand.

Of course, same as before: little birdie sang me a song.

;]
[Desire HD General] darrenjdoc:
Thats what i have been told adwinp.

Please please be right. This old Nokia of the wifes i am using at the min is falling apart in my hands :D
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
Please ask your bird: I preordered on the 19th of September, is this early enough? :p
[Desire HD General] jords12:
Same, how about september 25th for me? :)
[Desire HD General] stiefa00:
My posting is just a joke :P

He will be pissed soon, if anyone is going to ask hin :D

The revenge of the waiting non-birdie ppls ;)
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Asking those questions is futile because it's ultimately down to the retailer. Better to wait until we know phones are shipping before asking those sorts of questions.