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[Desire HD General] bratfink:
Hmm

1. Will hardly have any games

2. Same point

3. And android 2.2 doesnt??

4. Bull**** - yes you do.

5. Although you have a point i personally am always using headphones so i dont really mind, im sure 1 speaker is adequate for the odd handsfree

6. Kickstand is nice and im sure there are advantages in 3gp (i think size)

7. If your right then a posative

8. Android is getting advancing so quickly, and with Gingerbread only around the corner things can only get better :)
[Desire HD General] hoss_n2:
being not a gamer is a thing you do but not the most

and yes it is known that android 2.2 doesnot utilize the full cpu power and it is not hardware accelerated os other wise you will see desire hd fly with it's gpu
[Desire HD General] DocRambone:
"WP7-specific limitations

* No system-wide file manager

* No Bluetooth file transfers

* No USB mass storage mode

* Limited third-party apps availability

* No Flash or Silverlight support in the browser

* Too dependent on Zune software for file management and syncing

* No video calls

* No custom ringtones

* Music player lacks equalizer presets

* No multitasking

* No copy/paste

* No DivX/XviD video support (automatic transcoding provided by Zune software)

* No sign of free Bing maps Navigation so far

* No internet tethering support

* No memory card slot"

But the Omnia looks nice...

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8700_omnia_7-review-522.php
[Desire HD General] Radeon1337:
Is there any chance that the windows phone os could work on the desire hd ?

Dont want a win phone so i got the dhd, just want to try the win os :D
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
There is a possibiliy that we could port over WP7 to the DesireHD. Mainly as the platforms used in the WP7 devices are the same (MSM)

:D

But that would be dependant on full root
[Desire HD General] adwinp:
It WOULD be easier to just get the HD7...

I doubt that the OEMDRIVERS and OEMXIP would work.

Other than that, the eMMC partitioning is completely different. I don't think that you would be able to just flash the rom.
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
I never said anything about just flashing the ROM.

It probably could be done. Though ot would take a lot of work :)
[Desire HD General] Godo_PPL:
A lot of ranting on the WP7 OS here I see, my viewpoint is this:

WP7 lacks the momentum that android has in development and evolving the OS.

But this can be considered the 1.0 of WP7, And android is at 2.2, so issues with android has already (mostly) been fixed.

As far as filesystem goes, I am sure there will be access to this at some point not so far away.

I credit Microsoft with implementing user requirements in the OS as people point out flaws.

I have loved android since I first started using it, but there are some things that I never seem to find good apps for, and that is for communicating with my windows computer.

I tried to jump over to gmail, but cant get it to work like I want to.. and having the mailclient on an web only interface annoys me.. it needs the standalone mailclient in order to be competitive with windows and office functionality..

As far as chrome browser, it also is not working to my liking, as there are problems when I fill out online forms. This is a task that I do frequently in my proffesion..

So after trying out gmail and chrome I am now returning to the claws of Microsoft :)

They just make the business life easier..

And by the way, I tried using gdocs for wordprocessing.. OMG, that was not an good experience!

So I welcome WP7, although I am sure it also does not meet ALL my requirements, I am confident as the OS ages it will also get better and with more functionality.
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
As above. I am similar.

I am very fond of Windows Mobile - but 6.5 is horribly out of date now and I want to try something new, but I don't want to jump into something brand new that might be riddled with issues.

When my wife got her Hero on Android 1.5 it still had a lot of issues. Now we're on Froyo I'm happy that most of the issues are squashed and I can have a stable OS to play around in.

Maybe once I've had my DHD for 18 months and WP7 has matured, I might give it go - but it's not even out yet :)
[Desire HD General] phunkycow:
If i understand correctly, you're talking about your desktop/laptop and not your phone. If that's the case, you don't have to use the webclient, you can use Thunderbird or Outlook, for example, to handle your gmail account via POP/IMAP.

Android doesn't require you to use Google's Chrome on your pc. The only case I could think of is for using the Sendtophone extention, but there already are alternative extensions for Firefox (that I know of at least).

Seriously, that's just an added bonus, a convenience. I don't even think Microsoft offers anything similar which is web-based? If it doesn't suit your needs then just don't use it and use the software you like (MS Office, OpenOffice etc.). I see gdocs as a "last resort" when you don't have access to a pc with any of the afforementioned suites.

Maybe I sound hostile, that's not my intention really. :) And I wont try to persuade you to give Android another chance, that's clearly up to you to decide. I just don't see how the points you mentioned above lead you to choose a different mobile platform. :p
[Desire HD General] Ethania:
Nej det gör den inte!

Den är ju helt fyrkantig och svullen...
[Desire HD General] turborider:
nice said mate,damn thats alot,shame on these bastards who made win7 mob :mad: hope they get bad reviews
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bt8ScwAPZE&feature=player_embedded

If you look at this vid, they scroll down in the browser on both the DHD and the HD7. The DHD is a little choppy, the HD7 is super smooth like the iPhone.

This is a prime example of GPU acceleration. Windows Phone 7 has it, Android doesnt. So i guess this is a positive for WP7 over Android. But i hope Google implement it in Gingerbread.
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
I'm not questioning the benefits of GPU accelration, I just wish they did that test on a site without flash...
[Desire HD General] Bumble-Bee:
GPU acceleration is a huge plus for WP7 but Gingerbread is said to add that to Android so the way im looking at it is that they are bothe very close. For pritty much every up of WP7 android has a down and visa versa.

Id still go for the DHD due to its better specs and personaly i like androids UI better.
[Desire HD General] Spaky:
In this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt6UnYgXWjg it doesn't seems so choppy for my taste, maybe they have an old firmware (hope so :) )
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Android will do it soon though! :)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/14/opera-mobile-coming-to-android-within-a-month-bearing-hardware/
[Desire HD General] adwinp:
I didn't watch this clip, but if what you're stating is true, this might most probably be due to a buggy webkit (libwebcore) compile.

There ARE hardware acceleration optimisations which can be used (ENABLE_WTF_USE_ACCELERATED_COMPOSITING := true). I've been using those for quite a while now.

On a side note, the new SDK will prolly be available by next week. We'll have ample time to test.
[Desire HD General] incendy:
I think it would be possible too, but I think the issue will be Xbox Live games will never work and maybe marketplace. I know that the xbox live team made them put a unique hardware id on each device to authenticate so they could rule out mods and cheaters.
[Desire HD General] incendy:
Haha, well you have to remember this is a launch device. It is about getting a good foundation and building around it. All of those things you point out are features that can be added on top of what they have built.

The apps I have tried that are the same on both Android and Windows Phone 7 seem so much more responsive on Windows Phone 7 so there is no reason to think that those features you mention above will be even better once they are implemented.

We will have to wait and see though
[Desire HD General] Razorfold:
You are retarded.

1. Fair point.

2. Flash is coming to WP7

3. Obviously if you use Google / Bing maps then you need to pay for data. If you purchase a navigation app, then you don't.

4. So you're basing this on a device thats not even released yet? I could be wrong but when Android released, and for a good amount of time after that, it had **** apps too.

5. Completely retarded post.

1. Really? where did you read that?

2. Fair enough since files are synced through Zune.

3. It will increase as people buy phones.

4. It's coming.

5. Or you can sync everything with the cloud, apart from music.

6. Like 5 people in this world use Video calls.

7. Where did you read that?

8. Fair enough.

9. Fair enough.

10. It's coming.

11. Fair enough.

12. You can bet it's coming.

13. Not sure about that.

14. It has a memory card slot, but it works in a different way.
[Desire HD General] LeviathanPT:
Oh lord dont take this into a flame thread -_- the poll says it all.
[Desire HD General] dhiral.v:
I think that its fair to say WP7 is very closed off and limiting, much like the iphone, however this has seemed to keep the OS working as it should and made it a smooth experience.

Android has a lot more freedom and we can only see what happens next when gingerbread is released.

I think for now i'll be sticking to android.
[Desire HD General] Golgo:
Brief video comparison of the screen and build:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/18/htc-hd7-versus-desire-hd-battle-of-the-4-3-inchers/
[Desire HD General] adwinp:
The ONLY thing I'd ever want from a WP7 is the UI.

I hate microsoft and everything derived, but I must admit that they bet and won with this one.

No android launcher even comes close (I would finally like to see TAT's 3D UI...).
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Dan53:
Righttt... Now guys the 2.1 update is little more than a week away. But the developers are at work looking at the prototype bootloader (for the mini anyway).

So question is do I update? Or dont i? Because I dont want to update to find out the bootloader gets cracked and I cant use my phones full potential. Will the official update inhibit me from getting a cracked bootloader?

And i'd like to know what all the rest of you on the forum are going to do, wait or update?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] pshdo:
I would wait, at least ultil someone have root, and also have confirmed that you can flash back to 1.6 if wanted...

SE may be able to patch the firmware before they release the update, and then there will perhaps be no way back for the once who didn´t wait and updated their phones, and thats why i would wait...

I would actually also like the XDA DEVS to hide any progress (call it "go undercover" or "away from the XDA forums"), as i know for shure that all the phone manufactores are reading here at XDA and "other places" on the web too...

If SE see that XDA DEVS get too far, SE can easy decide to hold back the update some time longer to make the needed changes to lock down the new firmware even better...

I really hope that XDA DEVS beat SE in this race...:D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Dan53:
you have a point. i think i will just wait around and hope for a while then...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
I don´t believe that there will be an update soon. If there were only 2-3 weeks until update, why X8 was released with 1.6 instead of holding it for 2 weeks and releasing it with 2.1? SE did release X8 with 1.6 which was a terrible marketing step because it had no other choice - i.e. update was too far away.

Also, you call off a product (and 2.1 update is a product) 3-4 days before it had to hit the market, swallowing the consequences, only if something went terribly wrong.

So hold your horses. And get used to 1.6
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] neu242:
One of my contacts in SE tells me that a new version should appear in week 43 (25th - 31rd October). Let's just hope for an early arrival :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
If official information can´t be trusted, why should we trust unofficial. I will believe only when I´ll see my X10 mini pro running 2.1, and this is not going to happen soon.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] gammexane:
Owned. :D

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[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] spence91:
This is a very good point..
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] sethxp:
test version (not final) for mini leaked

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=808359
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
So, they are releasing final candidates now. Which means a month ago or it was a big lie, or something really bad was discovered and they realised they have to do it from the scratch and need one more month. Neither way I don´t trust SE. If release candidates will be released soon, we are not looking at October, but at the end of November at best. Operators will not be willing to release an untested product onto the market, and SE will blame operators for delays. smart move Frik Skogberg.

http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/10/13/new-xperia-x10-hd-video-sample-shows-improvements/#comments
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Darkbidule:
In France, the marketing manager of SE, have said officialy on facebook, that the update will come for november and not before :-(

BTW, I'm think, that I'm gonna wait cause I trust in XDA more than SE :-)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Dan53:
1. I am going to rage at this

2. DEVELOPERS TO WIN BEFORE SE DO THE DEED
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] gled:
Received today notification of software upgrade, orange france unlocked x10 mini pro.. I m not doing the update, I need to dump it and not at home..
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] knudsen81:
that is you software version you have on the phone now?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] siddharthsai:
Excellent question and suggestion

+1
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Dan53:
i would say that, but untill confirmation from SE i will have my hope
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] vlissine:
You´ve already had a confirmation from SE. Did it help you?:D
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Dan53:
thats why I said hope
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] neu242:
Well, 2.1 actually arrived yesterday. Owned? I think not. :)
[EVO 4G General] backdown:
I just looked at mine and it sure is!
[EVO 4G General] masbirdies:
I have a theory....

If yours is cracked, remove it. I think the crappy cover is partly responsible for the picture quality issues of this phone.

Mine seems to be a crappy plastic. It even feels a bit weird...kind of rough.

The actual lens is a couple mm below the cover.
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
no but mine has a nick in it NO clue how it go there since its been in a case since day one
[EVO 4G General] timdsmith72:
Yep. Mine's cracked..... or was... I removed it.

No idea how it got cracked. Phone has never been dropped or anything.
[EVO 4G General] Pao23:
Did picture quality change in either direction?
[EVO 4G General] timdsmith72:
Yes, it got better. Mine was actually cracked in a Y shape and where all three segments met was right smack in the middle of the lens. Even so, it wasn't a HUGE difference, but was noticeable.
[EVO 4G General] jigglywiggly:
Mine's in perfect condition... no case, got it at the IO conference.

Haven't even been particularly nice to the EVO either, never been in a case.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ladiesgod:
How do you continue streaming video from a web browser or youtube while browsing a second web browser or multitasking on your phone?

I'd like to multitask while I stream video but every time I navigate away from the browser or open up another the stream stops.
[General Questions and Answers] NathanP:
Hi, I'm running windows mobile 6.5 and couldn't uninstall a program so deleted the files manually but can't figure out how to remove the line from remove programs. Does anyone know?

Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omegasun18:
what happens when you try to go to recovery do you get the red exclamatian point or does it reboot etc? have yout ried clearing all data from boot loader (warning this will wipe out everything on sdcard). does it show as a device for ADB
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flintr:
When I choose recovery mode from the menu it just goes into the bootloop. And I did choose "Clear Storage" from the bootloader menu. I just did it again in fact. That put it in the bootloop as well. Ugh. I don't know how to see if it's showing in ADB, but I can get it to connect to windows via HBOOT USB, fastboot USB, or if I boot up while holding volume up.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omegasun18:
i would try downloading a bootloader (PC36IMG.zip) file and putting it on the root of your sd card. boot to the bootloader again and it should find it and ask if you want to install it say yes and let it run/ should reinstall your bootloader for you. once that's done you can try to see if you can boot up if you can then great if you still are in a boot loop let me know.

you may also try this tool to see if you can just reload the recovery.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flintr:
I got a new bootloader, and it's no longer boot looping, but now it boots straight into fastboot! I don't understand this! From there I can go into the bootloader and hit recovery. It doesn't bot into recovery, but it show's the "HTC Evo 4g" screen that it was showing in the bootloop, goes black, shows that screen again, then goes into fastboot. Any ideas? Thanks for the help s far by the way.

And I cant get unrEVOked to recognize it. It just stays on the "Plug in your phone" screen.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hammysink:
Try flashing a ROM if you can. If you can't, toss a PC36IMG.zip onto the root of your sdcard. Then allow bootloader to run and it'll find it and install the base and start you right up from scratch.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flintr:
I used a PC36IMG (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DfP_TbnT8GgjpO-Tp0Jn6w?feat=directlink) but it's still in the boot loop?! Wouldn't this replace ALL THE SYSTEM FILES?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omegasun18:
it depends on the PC36IMG. from the looks of the one you linked to it should have replaced your recovery, your boot loader, radios, and your nv which are the only things i can thinkof that might be causing the issue. since you cant get into recovery you cant really flash a rom or wipe anything you havent tried to already wipe. you may be screwed. You have already tried RUU, new boot loader, there should be a new recovery in the pc36img you flashed, you have tried clearing storage. and you still boot loop or at best get to flashboot. I am not sure where you got the ink for that pc36IMG but the onlyother thing i can think of is to go to all the way back to toasts origonal eng boot loader (the one in the link you provided is a newer boot loader) try flashing that if that doest work then you may have bricked it or at least i am out of ideas for now
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mnora:
i got into the same situation with the boot loop and not being able to get into recovery...basically looped into htc white screen.

I copied files from simplerootfull.2 files that i downloaded to root.

(flash_image, mtd-eng.img, PC36IMG, and recovery.img.) onto micro sd using and micro adapter for the computer, then replaced micro sd card, pressed power and down, got to fastboot and hboot and it just ran the pc36img. I think you can acces recovery and nandroid and restore. If not then just update radio, etc..im not an expert just tried this and it work for me hope it does for you.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flintr:
I did an "oem boot" from fastboot and I got this log:

./fastboot oem boot

< waiting for device >

... INFOsetup_tag addr=0xA0000100 cmdline add=0x8E07E1C0

INFOTAG:Ramdisk OK

INFOTAG:smi ok, size = 0

INFOTAG:hwid 0x0

INFOTAG:skuid 0x23301

INFOTAG:hero panel = 0x1

INFOTAG:engineerid = 0x0

INFOMCP dual-die

INFOMCP dual-die

INFOTAG:mono-die = 0x0

INFODevice CID is super CID

INFOCID is super CID

INFOBackup CID is SPCS_001

INFOsetting->cid::SPCS_001

INFOserial number: HT07DHL07164

INFOcommandline from head: no_console_suspend=1

INFOcommand line length =480

INFOactive commandline: board_supersonic.disable_uart3=0 board_s

INFOupersonic.usb_h2w_sw=0 board_supersonic.disable_sdcard=0 dia

INFOg.enabled=0 board_supersonic.debug_uart=0 smisize=0 userdata

INFO_sel=0 androidboot.emmc=false androidboot.baseband=2.15.00.

INFO07.28 androidboot.cid=SPCS_001 androidboot.batt_poweron=die_

INFObattery androidboot.carrier=COMMON androidboot.mid=PC3610000

INFO androidboot.keycaps=qwerty androidboot.mode=normal androidb

INFOoot.serialno=HT07DHL07164 androidboot.bootloader=0.76.2000 n

INFOo_console_suspend=1

INFOaARM_Partion[0].name=wimax

INFOaARM_Partion[1].name=misc

INFOaARM_Partion[2].name=recovery

INFOaARM_Partion[3].name=boot

INFOaARM_Partion[4].name=system

INFOaARM_Partion[5].name=cache

INFOaARM_Partion[6].name=userdata

INFOpartition number=7

INFOValid partition num=7

INFOjump_to_kernel: machine_id(2433), tags_addr(0x20000100), ker

INFOnel_addr(0x20008000)

INFO-------------------hboot boot time:10364 msec

ERROR: usb_read failed with status e00002ed

FAILED (status read failed (No such file or directory))

I am also able to flash system partitions from here. I've tried flashing system, userdata, recovery, and boot, but none of these have fixed it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omegasun18:
have you tried going back to get the origonal .73 eng boot PC36IMG.zip from toasts rooting part 2 tutorial?

I know you tried the .96 hboot and that didnt work but i am wondering if yuo will ahve better luck on the eng boot loader.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flintr:
I've been flashing a bunch of img files from a nandroid backup I did before the boot loop. I was able to erase the boot partition and flash one from another PC36IMG that I found (not sure which one) and now it just hangs at the Evo 4G screen. NO MORE BOOT LOOP! I'm downloading the "toast part 2" eng-PC36IMG file right now. Should I flash the whole thing from the bootloader? Or just the boot.img through fast boot?

Also, what can you discern from the "oem boot" log I posted on the first page of this thread?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omegasun18:
just flash the whole thing that should replace just about everything in the phone to the origonal eng set up. as far as the oem log not a ton sadly (at least i cant all it shows is the normal boot information then an error were it says it cant find the files\location). if you could get a logcat we might see more (but you need adb to recognize the phone to do that).

Hopefully going all the way back to the eng bootloaderetc will help take care of the boot loop andlet you at least boot into the rom. from there youa re golden.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deprydation:
I turned mine back into Sprint for this. I got a brand new phone the same day.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flintr:
The "toast part 2" eng-PC36IMG.zip file fixed it for me! I'm finally able to boot. I put clockwork recovery back on. It wont let me restore from my nandroid backup though. It freezes up at the boot partition flash. My boot partition wont flash certain img files and idk why. I'm manually flashing the .img files from my nandroid backup though. The system.img file wouldn't flash through fastboot, but it's working through recovery. No clue why. I feel like it's still a little unstable...