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[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dcchristopher:
I really wanted Android to succeed but it hasn't and I'm not necessarily blaming Android itself. I just don't see how I can choose it when the hardware and carrier are dropping the ball. All three (OS, hardware, carrier) are part and parcel. "Hardware support" is not enough when the hardware itself is not cutting it. First the Hero had build quality and connectivity issues, now the Vibrant has an elusive Froyo build and major GPS issues (in response to a previous post, I have yet to see a truly working "fix" and I have installed most if not all of them ... whoever claims it's now perfectly working is smoking something he/she should share with the rest of us).

Thank you for keeping an open mind and I do agree with you that individual experiences will vary but let's agree that this forum is proof that there are major unaddressed problems with this phone.

Thank you for applying intelligence and not resorting to childish name-calling ... simply put, I left AT&T after a decade of being their customer because my non-iPhone superphones (usually purchased from abroad but compatible with US 3G) were being intentionally disregarded by their network in favor of the iPhone devices out there ... $110 a month for a discriminating data service is not acceptable. iPhones are also a little "too user-friendly" for me. I preferred a more open platform. At this point though, I will settle for a device that "just works". That is what every iPhone user will tell you out there ... the s*** just works. A phone is something that should enable you to do things with it, whether it's productivity, app development, multimedia, services, etc. A phone is not a perpetual hack factory, at least not as a primary device. If people want a side project to play with, great. What I have seen on this forum though is that most people need a phone that works for them, not the other way around.

I am waiting for the first generation WP7 phones to roll out and see what drama will ensue, if any. As you very astutely stated, "there are pros and cons to any device and any carrier". I really enjoy the WP7 mobile app development environment and so long as the phones are not involved in yet another fiasco, I will most likely get one. If not, the iPhone it is.

I'm not trolling and I do not mean to offend hard-core Linux super-users/developers but this business of shoddy phones, shoddy service and endless "hacking" is not right when we're all paying 50-100 a month for service and 200-500 for devices. I am surprised that people are not up in arms about it. There really needs to be a class-action lawsuit over this. I know, a handful of lawyers will just make a shipload of money. Still, companies cannot get away with this sort of negligence. This isn't the first time and it sure as heck won't be the last.

Vote with your dollars and best luck to you,

DCC
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] lqaddict:
If browse over the iphone forums you will see the plethora of posts complaining about this and that on the iphone too.

There is no magic cookie cater for anything, you will always find something to be not up to your standards.

What confuses me the most is people complaining about the features that are not being the prime in the market cliché they are shopping - for instance, neither Android nor iOS are good examples of the enterprise use, but people still insist that my phone does not integrate well with my corporate Exchange environment the way I *want* hence the product sucks.

Everything has its pluses and minuses, it's up to an individual to weigh in the pros and cons to make a conscious buying decision.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dcchristopher:
I really want to say "I hear ya" but here's the deal ...

a) I glanced over the iPhone fora and I am not seeing anything glaring ... mostly basic user ignorance (configuration / customization issues)

b) all the iPhone users I have asked what their biggest complaint is about their phone give me the same "huh?" look ... their phone just works

c) all the major issues with iPhone 4 were addressed with some sort of fix or another, even if all it took was a rubber band ... I have friends who exchanged their phone well after the 30 days because of the proximity sensor issue (just as an example) ... clearly, Apple took ownership of resolving the deal-breaking issues

When I walked into a T-mobile store after the first 30 days and said "I will not put up with this GPS BS" they kindly restated their return policy, gave me Samsung's support number and sent me on my not-so-merry way. When I contacted Samsung, I was told to simply wait for the update as there was no fix for it so a replacement wouldn't accomplish anything. The customer service rep literally laughed when I mentioned a return of the product for refund.

You're absolutely right ... there will always be issues but this isn't a matter of preference or individual taste ... these companies are failing to deliver what they promised and what we have paid for and rightfully deserve. I am in no way saying that the iPhone is perfect; I'm sure I would have something to complain about from time to time ... but when I borrow friends' phones to "play" with, the iPhone is fast and responsive and hasn't failed me once. Load SpeedTest side-by-side. The "Begin Test" button lights up literally instantly. I know the Galaxy S phones have the same hardware. Why is it they can't be as responsive?

As I previously mentioned, I was with AT&T (or one of the companies it acquired or merged with) for over a decade until the Hero came out and I switched to Sprint. Then I went to T-mobile for the Vibrant. I will just make my rounds until I find something that works. My problem is that I get way too overexcited about the technology and jump ship before it has had a chance to prove itself. Right now the iPhone 4 has proved itself fairly well. As I said though, as a mobile apps developer, I really want WP7 to work out so I will _try_ to wait and see. The development experience is "magnifique!"

Best,

DCC
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] PaiPiePia:
It's really disheartening to see android sinking like this because if googles ignorant attitude. I agree with you, if google woukd be a bit more proactive like Apple or Microsoft (now that they revamped) and set a standard for the OS requirement, quality control. We can all breath better. I have a bad feeling that once wm7 hit, Android will be the new WM6.5, a cheap buggy and unorganized akternative for manuftre and carriers.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dcchristopher:
Thank you for chiming in. Hopefully Android will survive, even if only because competition is a good thing. I think most of the issues faced today (so-called fragmentation, etc) will be resolved in the re-architecture being introduced in Android 3.0. I'm more concerned about the carriers and hardware manufacturers closing up shop after a phone has been released and only looking forward to the next model. What good is it if Android survives and succeeds if I am the one left holding the dud? "Oh, just pay another two to five hundred dollars." The worst part is that the user/owner community turns a blind eye to the egregious failures in the name of fandom. That is NOT the way to organize and effect change.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] lqaddict:
I guess I went to the apple forums before the proximity sensor issues were resolved, and it was Vibrant GPS Redux over there.

I am glad that Apple took care of the problem after a few updates to their iOS, but as with the GPS issues on our phones the proximity sensor should've been caught during the QA, I am not gonna say anything about Antennagate.

Hopefully GPS will be patched for good on the Vibrant too, and no I do not need the proof that it is addressed with the latest update - faster locks does not mean accuracy.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] cdill3000:
Its those bloody Iphone Users that were clogging up the servers using Fring that caused fring to gett banned from skype :(
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dcchristopher:
Don't let Skype off the hook though ... I used to be a big fan of theirs but they've been very slow with delivering platform-specific clients and they seem to be playing favorites and such. Closing the door on fring, a very, very open solution out there, was a deplorable thing to do.

It doesn't matter folks ... when Google comes out with their VOIP service, and you KNOW they will (Gizmo5 acquisition, etc), all these other (dis-)services will be obliterated. I predict Google will establish its own data-only cell carrier (cause data is all you need anyway) ... hopefully within the next 2-3 years.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Devin5277:
I know this thread kinda derailed off topic, but imma put my two cents in.

I do kinda agree with DCC, at my workplace pretty much everyone has some sort of smart phone. When the subject of phones comes up, I am the first one to bang my chest and yell ANDROID~!

But the sad truth is, iphone users like the iphone because IT DOES WHAT THEY NEED IT TO DO. they really dont care about all the stuff we have come to love about android.

So they are happy and content, while we are up till the wee hrs of the morning trying to make our phones have a milli-second faster lol.

And to me its not really trying to make our phones better than the iphone, its me just making my phone better than it was.

I am disappointed in samsung about the lag issue and the gps issue.

I dont complain about it though, cause we are all here at this website to make our phones better than it is from stock. and I am 100 percent sure , once its said and done, this phone will more than satisfy me.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] cashless:
As far as I've read, Fring violated Skype's API and when they were challenged Fring, instead of changing their code, resolved to drop Skype support altogether. It's basically Fring's fault for not playing according to the rules. Fring issued a statement saying that Skype blocked them. It's an unlikely story since Skype has a fairly open API and would be leaving itself open to lawsuit if they did so.

blogs.skype.com/en/2010/07/fring.html

Where are you guys reading or hearing these things from?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dcchristopher:
Umm, definitely NOT from either side's highly partial blog, that's for sure ... which, by the way, you are misquoting. Fring did not drop Skype support all together. They temporarily disabled video calls because Skype and the carriers were *****ing about it (due to the excessive load on their networks). Then they were suddenly blocked from routing connections through Skype. This is an obvious behind-closed-doors ganging up of Skype+carrier(s) against Fring who stands alone and is one of the most open companies out there.

I get it, no one here really knows what happened when and why but ... Skype is no victim. On the other hand, the Objectivist in me says Skype should have every right to deny Fring (or any individual, company or group in the world) access to their systems. I just wish they would come out and say it instead of being all sly about it.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] cashless:
Saying that a company violated API publicly when they didn't is libel.

Just answer the question, your smugness, where did you get your info (especially seeing as you're stating that it's an obvious behind-closed-doors ganging up of Skype+carrier(s) against Fring. I guess you're one of these people behind these closed doors?

Lemme get your "jump to conclusions" board for you.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dcchristopher:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=skype+blocks+fring

"Smug is as smug does."
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] cashless:
And you criticize me for posting from the Skype official page? What else do you have besides conjecture? Oh yeah, flawed logic.

Pro tip: At the very least use a URL shortener so that people will actually fall into your "trap".
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dcchristopher:
Bro tip: Don't be so insecure to the point of aggrandizing what I say and do (my alleged smugness, me criticizing you, my "trap" ... geesh!). You give me WAY too much credit.

Anyway, let's chalk this one up to electronic communications failing us once again. This subject is a little too complex and too obscure for the rest of us who are simply watching from the outside (and yes, when I say "no one here really knows", I include myself ... I don't understand how that could possibly be misperceived).

Yes, Fring was in some sort of parasitic symbiosis with Skype. Yes, Skype had every right to close the door on Fring because at the end of the day, it's their friggin' service. I hope we can at least agree, though, that the dissolution of their relationship came on the heels of an exclusive agreement between Verizon and Skype (where the former would be the only carrier to get the latter's mobile client) and a similar agreement between AT&T and Apple where the iPhone 4 would be the only phone bearing a FFC and the data could only be streamed over WiFi and not 3G. Clearly, Fring stepped on some big and sore toes (by providing an alternative AND going over 3G).

Life is not just about being spoon-fed the truth. You have to look at the partial evidence and make the most of it based on reason and intuition (not regurgitating one side's statements, with plenty of poetic license apparently). Obviously the majority of the information will come from the two opposing parties. Still, there is plenty of "conjecture" as you said (and according to Troy McClure, that is a "type" of evidence! :P) and if you look up that term, it means it at least appears correct. Obviously, it's a form of reaching a conclusion, not a seance.

Anyway, I welcome your opinion and respect your stance on the matter. I'm sure it's equally viable. Please allow me to remind you though ... YOU asked where people got their information from. YOU questioned others' perception of what is going on.

Have a wonderful evening, my friend. At the end of the day, all of us here are brothers in arms against the same culprits. I bear you no ill will.

DCC
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] strictlyrude27:
A+ thread! would read again!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] harpocrates23:
Their comments were to an uneducated and unresearched comment you made. No one is trying to play catch up with Apple and the iPhone 4 cause the thing just plain sucks. The best user experience you talk about is because it's users are the same users who think MACs are the best...the uneducated users who barely know how to use technoilogy and go for the shiniest looing piece of equipment.

The GPS has been fixed since day one from android developers and if you bothered to know a bit about your phone you would have found out. Among other things has been the kernel, the overclocking, the data connection, the response times of touch screen and more. And all that was done from people who do it as a hobby for free and rely only on donations.

Apple has a ****load of techs and never fixes anything unless they realy have to. Have you not heard how the antenna loses reception when held the wrong way. The gps is a minor thing and people shouldnt really rely on their phone for gps..its just an extra..a nice to have...you know why we buy phones...to MAKE CALLS...and yet Apple released a product that couldnt do that. iPhone 5 will be a shiny brick that does nothing and you will think the android community is trying to catch up with that. Do you not read the news....AT&T has the worst rate of dropped calls in the U.S.

As for t-mobile coverage and services.....wow are you misinformed....I travel all over the U.S. for business and T-Mobile has had the best coverage for phones and DATA in almost every location (except staten island where verizon is better but really...who cares about staten island :P... I keed)

As for the plans..please go to both websites and see how much more it costs for the same exact plans with AT&T and with a data limit of 2GB. At least with T-Mobile I use my phone for tethering and can get 5GB fast and then I can still use it but for lower speeds when I go over the 5GB...and it is still very usuable. After that on my next billing cycle it resets.

Finally...for your stupidest comment of all...why Android.....because the android community has thousands of talented developers who will work day and night to fix the tiniest bug they find on this platform. They will make each and every phone work to its full potential..and then some. It isnt just about the ability to customize and have your phone anyway you want..it's about having thousands of these great guys out there knowing they will fix anything that you find wrong with your phone....Withh Apple all you can hope for is a free case so it doesnt affect the faulty antenna...please...

I know its pointless responding to uninformed trolls such as yourself..and you will come up with an idiotic response thinking you made a point.. (just like the above post), but sometimes I just can't sit and listen to these idiotic comments.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] harpocrates23:
and for those that cant find a fixed gps:

h**p://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=771111

Vibrant Bible directory...using Eugenes rom with JI5 leak and GPS works perfect...and there are more options....Only thing the GPS cant find is my bed inside my house...

what a troll...he thinks he know what he is talking about and states the most useless comments...then again..thats a troll...
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] scrizz:
This is not Android vs iOS.

This is merely Skype being the POS company that they are!

there is a reason skype has a "F" with the BBB.

i want you to try to get a phone number to contact skype, You can't.

It's a POS company.

it might have started good, but there are other alternatives.

SKype has been dragging it's feet.

Look at Fring, they had working skype video and audio calls.

But skype didn't like the fact that there is someone better than them and had Fring's Skype service shutdown!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dcchristopher:
I wouldn't call my initial comment uneducated or unresearched ... but perhaps it was a bit insensitive. I wasn't trying to elicit a reaction but perhaps I did inadvertently ruffle a few feathers. I was merely venting my frustration with the Android experience since day one. Mea culpa.

Regarding your personal attack, it is so ridden with projection, fallacies, partial truths and misunderstandings that it does not bear examining. Addressing it would be like dropping a wad of sticky angel hair pasta on the floor and trying to delicately salvage it, one thread at a time. It's just not worth it. I choose to trash it. I would however like to epitomize your intelligence: "The GPS has been fixed since day one". 'Nuff said.

As scrizz kindly reminded us, this isn't about Android versus iOS ... and I apologize for derailing the thread.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] krook6023:
So what is this thread about again???

Please stop threadjacking and stay on topic...further off topic posts will be dealt with.

No more iPhone vs Android talk in THIS thread.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] harpocrates23:
I didnt expect you to admit you are wrong anyway.

And I have been using the GPS since the original fix and it worked fine with google navigation. The current fix from either bionix's rom or eugenes works even better.

As for skype...they really are POS. Too expensive for voip and not worth using. I use Fring (for video) and voipdiscount for voipcalls which works with any sip program and just wish the T-mobile variant of the Vibrant had the front camera. I was hoping for fring to integrate skype (due to many people I know still using it) but I am not going to bother with it in any case. What is bad about fring is that it does not support video calls to google contacts that have video...or at least I havent had it work.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] cozmo5050:
correct me if im wrong... basically skype wont work for the galaxy s unless u have froyo, or eugene's custom rom? :p
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dcchristopher:
Dude, thanks for dropping that hint, I hadn't thought about Eugene's latest Froyo ROM being compatible with Skype. I just installed it and it works like a charm although it detects that I'm in the US and only allows calls over WiFi. Still, not bad! Last I checked, Skype still doesn't work with the stock Vibrant OS.

If you haven't installed Eugene's latest, JPM-based ROM, I strongly recommend it! :)

Again, many thanks for leading me down the right path with your question.

DCC
[General Questions and Answers] anthonytimotheou:
Check this class below,

______ My Code _______

public class Main extends Activity implements OnKeyListener {

DisplayWord currentWord;

TextView wordStatus;

EditText inputWord;

Button okBtn;

int pos = 1;

char currentChar;

char inputChar;

/** Called when the activity is first created. */

@Override

public void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState) {

super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);

setContentView(R.layout.main);

currentWord = (DisplayWord) this.findViewById(R.id.trueWord);

currentWord.setText("Bonjure"); // word from database

wordStatus = (TextView) this.findViewById(R.id.wordStatus);

inputWord = (EditText) this.findViewById(R.id.wordInput);

inputWord.setOnKeyListener(this);

}

@Override

public boolean onKey(View v, int keyCode, KeyEvent event) {

if (inputWord.getText().toString().length() <= currentWord.getText().toString().length()) {

pos = inputWord.getText().toString().length();

currentChar = currentWord.getText().toString().charAt(pos);

inputChar = inputWord.getText().toString().charAt(pos);

}	return false;

}

}

_____ END _____

When running this code, upon entering data into the input box it causes an exception straight away and for the program exit unexpectedley.

I am trying to extract the input word from EditText field and the word stored in a TextView and to compare them char by char as those chars are entered into the input box, sort of a word game, where the character will be highlighted green if it is correct and red if it is not.

I have no idea why this behaviour happens, I can see in debugger an StringIndexOutOfBounds exception, and a ResourceNotFound when I have been tampering with different ways of attempting this, access position or the char array, it always seems to throw an exception.

Any advice or links appreciated,

AnthonyI am trying to post a copy and paste of just text, no links but validation error on starting a new thread is telling me that I cannot submit a message with a link in it? I want to show everyone a simple class because of some problem's i'm having.. any ideas?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] purpleevo:
Since this is the development forum...

I'm writing an application that creates a multicast lock, and then listens for broadcast UDP or multicast packets. works perfect on the motorola droid, and on CM6, but not on any Sense ROM.

anyone have any suggestion?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] invisiblek:
Shot in the dark: have you tried a custom kernel?
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] Koutch974:
I'm using ADW, but I found the Menu bar in Ahome is simply amazing. Anyone can tell me if there is a way to pull this out of AHome to ADW ?

You're gonna tell me "Hey dude, juste go Ahome if you like it", but I don't want to loose my 6 rows desktop :p .

Moreover, I want to know which one is the more stable, because ADW is always closing (no FC and exclude from ATM ofc) ... didn't experienced AHome.

*Sorry for my bad english, I'm french*

Regards.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rkanwar:
Hey guys was just wondering wat are the procedures to flash my phone with froyo or eclair
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] berbecverde:
If you find out such a thing let us now:D
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] solo13:
go to SE website and download it from there, if you need any help in typing the website address please let me know.

PS. only for oral use.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rkanwar:
Download what?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] solo13:
come on man .

2.1 will be coming next month, and as far as we know there will be no 2.2 for the X10.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rkanwar:
Yeah most likely.

@solo13 i know that we are due to the upgrade but u never know SE might yet again delay