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[Wildfire Android Development] tigger69:
Is it okay now to try installing WildPuzzleRom--Should be fine

* Do I have to do a nandroid backup BEFORE that?---Definatley

* Do I need to make an goldcard for this?---nope,copy files to sdcard then boot into clockwork recovery, select install file from sdcard.

* Do I need a USB card-reader-adapter for this?---nope, i just plug my WF into usb and copy files onto it.

* Is 2gb enough for that?---You may want to get a bigger card, i use a 8gb.

Lastly do a nandroid backup, reboot phone, plug into usb and copy whole clockworkmod folder off sdcard onto your pc. In case you accidently format the card and lose the backup.
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
* Thanks! A quick answer! Okay, so to put the files on the SD-card via USB, do I have to use adb then? Or can I just put the phone as a usb-device and drag the files to the sd-card?

* Is there an easy guide to do the nandroid backup? It says something about installing new SPL before and stuff I really dont understand.
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
You Can Perform File Transactions normally , don't worry. You don't need ADB for that.

Pree the Volume Down key along with the Power Key

Wait for a few moments after HBoot gets loaded

Press Voume Down until it Highlights 'Recovery'

Press the Power Key once

You Should be into Recovery now

Go to nandroid

Backup

Confirm Backing up

Process should get started

After a Moment Backup should be completed , make sure you have 170~300MB Left in your Memory Card

You should be done by now :)
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
Also to get BusyBox working you will need to Have a ext3 Partition on your SD Card , Do it via ROM Manager.

ext3 Partition can also be utilized if you use the Dalvik2SD Patch
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Okay, thanks, but then I dont set the phone to "just charge", Im going to put it as "disk drive"?

For the nandroid, I did that directly after rooted with unrevoked, but got an error-message when it was done, something said about the sdcard.

And, with busybox, is that neccessary than? Ceybercool10 said I could use only USB, and that sounds easyer. I dont know what ex3partition is.
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
To Mount it as Disk Drive do this :

> Go to Home Screen -> Menu -> Settings -> Connect To PC -> Check "Ask me" ->

Or

Go to Default Connection Type and Change it.

In 'Ask Me' Phone will ask you everytime , what to do with the USB Connection to PC , Mount as Disk Drive , Network Sharing , Charge Only or Sync.
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Tryed again, maybe it worked, but got this errormessage:

"No sd-ext found.

Skippin

g Backup of Sd-ext.

Generating md5sum...

!Backup complete"

Is this what you mentioned I have to fix with the ext3 partition?
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Yes, I do now how to change that, but only want to be certain that the option should be "Mount as disk drive" when using the phone to put files on the SD-card for flashing etc?
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
Thats not an Error , Backup was done Successfully
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
No , Just Put the Files for Flashing normally on the card , You will be able to later browse and select which file to flash via ClockWorkMod , So literally you can put the files anywhere on your sdcard !:)
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Sweet! thanks! So I would now store this on my computer then? And now I am clear to explore my phone and can try to install WildPuzzleRom, and if something is F_cked up, I can just do a restore with this backup later on?
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Its just this I dont understand, if I cant see my device in "my computer", how do I put files on to it? Using Cmd and some commands?
[Wildfire Android Development] Warlord711:
Why exactly you cant see your device ?
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Havent tested yet, but if I have the phone as "charge only" is it still coming up as a device, etc "g:"
[Wildfire Android Development] Warlord711:
No it doesnt. You have to connect as device. This will unmount the sdcard for the phone itself but mount as a device for your computer.

Another way is to use adb.

You can use

adb push <pathtoyourzipfile> /sdcard/

Since you not common with linux and/or command line, i suggest you use the default way and mount your phone's sdcard as a devce to your windows pc.
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Yes, thats was exactly what I was wondering about, but got another answer before wich made me wondering again. , so now its just as simple as to put the WildPuzzleRom files on the SD-card and flash via ClockWorkMod? - starting in the orders that the author has placed them in the "download list"?
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
After backing up the Files and putting the flash files on SD , Just follow up the Instructions on WPR Installation , All will be fine if you go by the Instructions :)
[Wildfire Android Development] Warlord711:
Yes that should work - i never used PuzzleRom but self-cooked Updates and others.

Copy the files on sd, then flash+boot/reboot.

The How-To should cover that point.
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Thanks! Going to try this when I come home!

Do I start every file the same way later?

Its not the simplest instructions to follow...etc

3.Insert a new formated sdcard with NO ext-partition, did a full WIPE (Should I formate a SDcard on the computer and then put it on the phone? - sais nothing on were to put the flashfiles etc, because the 001 WPR should now be here, right?)

5.Started Rom Manager and choosed Partition SDcard (Is Rom manager a program on the phone? Or something I have to install on the computer?)

6.Had to install clockwork recovery and choosed model wildfire when asked (do you install this via Rom manager? Or is it something I have to download by myself?)

11.Unmount SDcard and start Rom Manager, choose similar to "reboot into recovery" for manual installation (unmount from computer and put in to wildfire again? And now put ALL THIS ON THE CARD?? NOT RENAMING ANYONE TO "Update.zip"???

* 0050_htc_froyo_2.2_orginal_kernel_v1.zip

* 0400_mods_disable_keypad_changes_v2.zip

* 0401_mods_enable_trackpad-to_wake_up_disable_power-v2.zip

* 0900_orginal_framework_stock_battery_icon_v5.zip

* 0903_7steps_circlemod_colorful_v4.zip

* Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25.zip OR/AND Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31.zip

And here install in the order that they are now? with radio last?
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
Oh Sorry , Thats not a Proper Instruction , Full Guide is here.
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
But that guide only covers the rooting-process, not the Romflashing-steps...
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
No , It also has the Flashing Procedures , Look at last few lines

^^ This is the Flashing ones , You have to do these via ClockWorkMod
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
yes, saw that, but thoose instructions were less than the other ones!

Not well explained, have read something about updating the SPL and radio BEFORE installing new roms, is that neccessary here?

And here the instructions says nothing about the Rom manager and so on, Am I going to skip those steps or what?
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
No.

If you are familiar with ClockWorkMod then that information is ok ,

Follow this then .

Boot into Recovery

> Go to "Wipe Data / Factory Reset" -> Confirm Action

> Go to "Wipe Cache Partition" -> Confirm Action

Now your cache and Data got Reset , Make sure you have backed up via nanadroid Before doing this.Make sure you have those files to flash on SD Card.

> Go to "Install Zip from sdcard" , Browse for the First Base File the ROM One 0001xxxx , Confirm Installation and Just follow the steps , after a Moment it should say that the Installation is Complete.

> Follow the same procedures to flash the other files , one by one.

> After you are done do a reboot.

Do you want to have Dalvik on your SD Card ? Then we will talk about Partitioning via ROM Manager. Otherwise just Skip it.
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
A big big thank you for this! For us newbies, we are not familiar with clockwork, so just theese explanations meens alot to me. I just want to add the wildpuzzerom, because dont know what dalvik does, or is it to the option to put the apps and stuff to the sd-card and not the mobiles memory, then it would be intresting!
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
Welcome :) and Best of Luck
[Wildfire Android Development] tigger69:
Akerhage Also make sure you make a backup of the clockworkmod folder from the sdcard onto your pc, just in case ;)
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Yes I will do that also :)

Could you answer my dalvik-question? :p
[Wildfire Android Development] tigger69:
Dalvik file moves some system files to the sdcard to save space on the phones mem. I'm not sure if you need it or not though. Just try the wildpuzzle rom and see if you can partition the sdcard for apps2sd it uses and see how it goes.
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
OKay thank-you. Will try that. Test with the non ockernel But what radio is best to use!?
[Wildfire Android Development] tigger69:
stick with the normal stock one for now, its fine.
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Thanks again!
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Should I unzip to my SDcard or should I just copy the "zip"-files directly to the SD-card?

And now I have done the first 0001, restarted now, I am stuck on a black background with androidlogo now, still waiting..hope this one will dissapear soon.

Am I supposed to restart system after every flash?
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
^^ Don't Unzip and Extract , Leave them 'As-Is' , ClockWorkMod will take care of the Rest.
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Done! the 0001 is working now!

I am going to flash the other ones now! the kernel and so on!

Really dont know what the kernel does, but if its as simpel as the first one and makes improvement, then I want it!
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
If ONLY you wish to Try OverClock then Try the new OC Kernel , Otherwise Stick with the Default if you dunno or don't wish to Try OC.

Although As per report it seems that OCd Kernel is stable and works well with WPR , So its on you :)
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
I will try it! About the radio? Is that neccessary, I dont mind doing the 04xx or 09xx then, seems like thats not something that changes to the better...
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
Newer Radio is Better , have on my phone now , Network is Stronger , WiFi Reception is Better , Moreover Network is stable with Minimal Dropouts .
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Okay, that I want! :) But Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31.zip is fine then, or do you use the chinese version??
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
The Chinese one is the New One i.e 13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25 , What I am using.
[Wildfire Android Development] 71baker:
Just wanted to add another method for copying files to the SD-Card.

In Recovery you can go to partitions menu and choose the bottom option , "mount USB storage"

If you have the USB connected the device will pop up as a drive.

Also be aware that when flashing Radio , the phone will start/stop a couple of times , DO NOT remove battery or anything , just let it go until it is done and booted. If you interrupt the Radio flashing you can probably go to the store and buy a new phone. :cool: Oh and make sure you have plenty of battery on the phone before flashing anything. Losing power while flashing is no good either... :)
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
A little bit to late answer, I took the other one, is it okay to just install the chineese one instead right now? Or do I have to do everything from the beginning?

Have tryed WildPuzzle now, cant see much differences in speed etc comparing to the old android 2.1 that was on the phone before. Sometimes its hard top press and hold a widget, shortway to move or delete it, it doesnt respond all the time.

My mobile internet is not working? WiFi when I was at home running fine, but sat on the bus to work this morning and could not connect to internet using the mobile internet...any suggestions why?

The flashing-process was really simple btw, so clearer instructions is enough, because its very easy to do if you can follow good instructions, as the one I have got in this thread! :)
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
Try it now then , you can just flash it separately , don't require to do it all again :P
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
I am waiting for a WPR update, then I am going to try a new ockernel and take the new chineese radio aswell =)
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
Hmm , Ok , Just thought to tell you that you can go on try the new Radio with this as well :)
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
I think that the original radio sucks! Way to bad signals! I had A SE W995 before this and had far much better radio in that, It gets all noisy now with this one! Even though I am outside in the middle of gothenburg. Hope the new chineese one will improve this!
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
The First one was the Default radio I recall :-/
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
What did you mean by that? :p
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
Default = The Radio which came with the Phone.
[Wildfire Android Development] Akerhage:
Yes! I did understand that to =)

But will the signal be better with the other chineese on you think?
[Wildfire Android Development] cybercool10:
Mine is :) With The Radio Version I mentioned :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrxtc714:
Ok so I was taking a really good look at my g2 using my nexus one led torch.

In the top left corner is a sensor and another odd looking thing.

To me and a few other people I have showed it to it looks like a camera.

I compared it to the sensors on my nexus one and it looks more like a camera than any type of sensor.

I know it doesn't mention anything about a camera in the specs

but just like my nexus one updates unlocked new features that were already there.

the hardware already existed.

I'm not saying I am right

I just want other people to take a good look at it and give your opinion.

If it is a camera then that would definitely make the g2 the phone for me
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diversificationied:
You have a proximity sensor as well as a light sensor.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrxtc714:
Do you actually have a g2?

you are right the phone does obviously have both the proximity and light sensors

but like I mentioned so does my nexus and this looks nothing like either of those 2

if you are right then I believe the camera looking one would be the light sensor. And that would be one hell of a light sensor

But just a note the leds are nicely hidden under the speaker grill and another sensor could be as well.

I just don't want to rule it out just yet

unless you yourself have a g2 that you have examined please don't make comments
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epeets:
i would love to believe that T-mobile hid this surprise from us. Even as far as to not even include it in the specs for the phone anywhere but I really don't think they would. It would also make the phone to much competition for the upcoming myTouch HD which I believe is gonna be even more expensive than the G2 was.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k0shi:
i have to admit it does kinda look like a little camera but that is most definately just the 2 stated sensors. The whole is wayyy to small to be a camera and there was already a tear down of this phone with nothing stating it had a front facing camera. our hopes are crushed :'(
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericc191:
myTouch HD is the Desire HD? If so, they ruined its looks.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theglock:
i agree, the myTouch plastic case just doesnt do it for me, it makes me feel like a child
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funkadesi:
you guys DO know that desire HD has a 4.3" screen as MyTouch HD has a 3.8" screen.... completely different devices.

I'd say its a variant of HTC lexicon (verizon phone) without the keyboard.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RuncaProfundus:
It does look a little like a cam but its smaller than all the other FFCs I've seen on other phones so I'm pretty sure its just one of the sensors

The HTC website has specs up for the Desire HD. Its a different phone from the mytouch.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psylabs:
The 2 front facing holes were one of the first things I noticed.

The bottom hole looks like it could be a low res camera,

I would open it up to confirm, but im not sure im going to keep the phone so I dont want to void my warranty just yet.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jorsher:
They aren't going to hide something that people WANT.

They're sensors, nothing more.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaosxiii:
If you open the back panel and look underneath the SD card there is actually a flux capacitor - it's for a future update allowing time travel!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cel1084:
Thats why the back of the phone is made of brushed metal, to help with the flux dispersal.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joebobjoe:
Fact: Cyanogen could, if he wanted to, make a front-facing camera using just the proximity sensor and the light senor.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funkadesi:
I really hope that was a joke
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khaosxiii:
Cyanogen has a rooted G2 locked in a vault under his desk right now. After a brief conference call with Chuck Norris and Batman it was decided that he not release it due to the amazing uncontrollable power that would be unleashed on the earth and the possible consequences of it falling into the wrong hands.

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[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greengoldmello:
Smh @ this thread
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatruth132:
dammmmmmmmnn that was the funniest thing I heard yet
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gr8gorilla:
someone already tore the phone apart. Don't you think they would have mentioned a FFC?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MCbrian:
Well...it might work -- if you were OK with 1-pixel images. :rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrxtc714:
You guys are probably right about it not being a camera.

but for all the people saying why would they hide something people want.

As I mentioned before my nexus one now does things like hd recording, wireless n, fm radio, multitouch, all things that weren't listed in the specs fyi

you guys are just haters.

They could easily have put the phone out before it was done just to get it out before the mytouch hd.

While it is stable unlike the iphone 4g release, future updates can easily give us new features.

And yes I've been following the mytouch hd for awhile now and can't wait for it to get here to add to the collection.

In a thread somewhere on here i read that the vibrant has a space made to install a front facing camera and people have got it working. Why tmobile had it left out who knows.

In no way am I saying the g2 has this but I just wanted to bring it up as a point that even though this might not apply to the g2 there can always be "more than meets the eye"
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MCbrian:
T-Mobile didn't leave it out. The world/generic version, the Desire Z, doesn't have a front-facing camera, either.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jorsher:
True story.

I had a friend who is now just a torso because he tried to open the vault, and unfortunately was promptly dismembered by Ninja Chuck and a plastic spork.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
No company is going to put hardware in it and then not use it.

In the case of the N1, all that hardware was already included and used for ohter purposes.

(FM is part of the wifi/bluetooth/fm combo) Nearly all phones use that same chip.The issue is with getting proper FCC approval for the FM portion.

HD recording/Multitouch/etc, strictly a software trick using the existing hardware.

A front facing camera would mean extra cost, if it had been included they would have advertised the **** out of it. This is the reason why the samsung camera is yanked out of the vibrant. A few bucks over a couple hundred thousand units, is a couple hundred thousand dollars in savings.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrxtc714:
I was talking about the vibrant

how can you use my first line and put it together with one near the end

and talk trash lol

that was weird
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MCbrian:
Well...the Vibrant is a different brand/manufacturer than the G2....so I don't see the relevance of making that comparison.

If we're going to compare anything-to-anything, my Lenovo Thinkpad has a front-facing camera... :rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrxtc714:
How about a couple hundred thousand lost in profits instead

what you say is obviously not from a business point of view

camera = more sales = more profit

very simple to understand
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrxtc714:
Once again idiot read again

I made it very clear that me mentioning the vibrant had nothing to do with the g2

you are really terrible at comprehension i see.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MCbrian:
If the Vibrant had no relevance to the topic, why did you mention it at all?

And where did you get the "couple hundred thousand" value? So...you're a business analyst as well as an expert in phone-design strategies?

I know you're a little kid -- which isn't your fault -- but that doesn't really excuse this stuff.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Front facing cameras aren't really in high demand, couple with the extra network overhead involved, it makes financial sense for t-mobile, especially on a phone that is more than likely more expensive to have produced than others(metal body/keyboard/new generation innards).
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrxtc714:
Yes I am

and i'm as good at it as you are at trying to make arguments

kid. No. sorry

i'm 30 yo live in orange county ca

have my own company and im very successful

I doubt you'll make it as one of my neighbors one day

But good luck though
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrxtc714:
Hi

first hspa+ phone

just like the evo was sprints first 4g phone

look how many evos are out there and the demand is still high for them

so in your opinion tmobile is smarter than sprint correct?

Im sure someone will have a silly reply

come on lets hear it

the want and need has already been established.

Your personal view of the necessity of a camera is nothing to the proven numbers
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ihateusernames:
You know how I know you're lying? Chuck wouldn't need a spork.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ihateusernames:
Oh yeah, OP, does your username indicate you drive a Subaru?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
You have proven numbers about cameras being deciding factors for phone purchases? Let's seem them.

Sprint is a better position to take bigger gambles than T-Mobile is, yes.

Higher speed is universally wanted by everyone, what's your point?

Video chatting has been a sci-fi dream for decades, video conferencing have existed for years as well. Landlines have essentially come and gone and video phones never managed to take off. What do you think is different in the mobile landscape?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] userfriendlyme:
LOL ok this was rather funny i needed that laugh thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] G210410:
G2 FFC

Ok there is a front facing camera I have had mine sence the fourth and my brother works for tmo and he confirmed that its there just has to be unlocked