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[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
Maybe you don't have a good data connection. The checkin process has to be able to connect to google servers. I've been playing around with logcat so I know what to do in case I get the ota. I suggest you get logcat from the market and run the *#*#checkin#*#* to see what's really going on. Its quite interesting (for a nerd like me anyway).
[G2 and Desire Z General] reddragon72:
So when you get the addy for the OTA your going to post it?

One guy on here stopped the update so it is on his SDcard, but havn't heard back from him yet. I just want the zip file so I can tear it apart and look for the WIFI calling stuff.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
I will definitely post any information I get. Still waiting, checking in...
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrxlieu:
for WIFI Calling there is 2 option

Option 1: When using WIFI it deducting from your minute bucket or

Option 2: Pay $9.99 for Unlimited HotSpot Calling and that will be unlimited talk, because you pay for it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jcX4ever:
It's so sad that I still read post from ungrateful and dissatisfied people despite this surprise OTA. It seems that there is really no satisfaction. Why not just compare yourself to the iPhone and count what you can do and what they can't do, you will probably feel happier.

Again, I myself don't have the OTA update yet, but I'm still very grateful to the people/team behind this OTA update that fixes some bug and gives you more functionality. Remember, this phone was just officially released few days ago and here comes more functions that other people dream of .

And, yeah you can also compare yourself to the Vibrant users who always gets many promised updates.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Woot got my update, but memory is not fixed. Showing 1.29 gig. But other than that yay! In Dallas,TX.
[G2 and Desire Z General] madpanda331:
did you happen to get the link to the file?
[G2 and Desire Z General] nabzilla1990:
run adb logcat to find the link and post it plz :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrxlieu:
did you get your update for the G2 just right now?
[G2 and Desire Z General] vikramdhani:
wow i am really surprised why only really scattered people are getting thr OTA this is really slow and they is not officialy annoucement from Tmobile ... makes me wonder
[G2 and Desire Z General] reddragon72:
I'm a Vibrant user but I'm not complaining, I'm just doing my own work to bring to myself what I should have gotten in the beginning. That is why I am here in the G2 section, looking for the link to this update or the update file itself so I can tear it appart and bring myself WIFI Calling knowing all well that the Vibrant will probably be the last phone to receive that feature.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tr.slate:
this is like watching water boil...
[G2 and Desire Z General] nabzilla1990:
yeah thats wierd this update will keep me from returning my g2 5 days left in my 15 day grace period
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkadesi:
people be patient pleasee.... updates aren't small files you know///

These things take place at the right time when a phone has a STEADY connection to the internet and it has to be in one CONTINUOUS download..... so give it sometime.... who knows the the update is being downloaded as we speak and it gets triggered when T-Mo releases the batch of IMEIs who have teh green light for the update....
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
Took the time to post and gloat on XDA, but no Logcat info? C'mon buddy...pretty please?
[G2 and Desire Z General] dankeller:
got aLogcat installed on 3 G2s... waiting...
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
Not necessarily true. The FRF91 OTA update on my N1 was only 909kb.

I haven't seen how big this G2 OTA update is, but I'm sure it's not that substantial.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mark925:
Of course the ones who don't think of running logcat are the ones who get it first.
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkadesi:
Yea, only 909 Kb of change to your device rom..... not big at all :rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z General] tr.slate:
cant someone just backup the uma app onto their sd card and post it somewhere? thats really the only part im looking for...

Should be able to do that without root afaik
[G2 and Desire Z General] arich:
no offense but if you get the OTA and have even half read this thread and you don't pull the logcat info....you're pretty worthless in my eyes
[G2 and Desire Z General] mark925:
Same here on my 1... sitting here at work with alogcat running and glancing over every so often.

(yeah I'm impatient... haha)
[G2 and Desire Z General] s30zgt:
do you have background data enabled? it did the same thing for me until i enabled it then got *checkin succeeded*.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mftek1:
i got logcat installed. just waiting for my update.....
[G2 and Desire Z General] reddragon72:
Dang...... rough morning?

Anyone have any updates, and yea if you have recieved the update can you look for the APK? I never thought about that. Someone on here should be able to guide you to it's location as I am reading up on all of it right now so I am worthless as far as details go.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
The fact that NOBODY has pulled logcat info yet really makes me wonder. This must only be rolling out to a tiny amount of "test" units right now.

Supposedly this has update has been out for 12+ hours and nothing...
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
I guess it's all relative. It's a tiny file from the standpoint of bandwidth necessary to push it OTA, but quite large in respect to the file system it's being applied to.

:D
[G2 and Desire Z General] TheArtiszan:
the reg log cat not working to well running log thru temp root and on pc may take a little bit.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
What does that even mean? We just need the server address to direct download the OTA.

Please?? :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] minotauri:
i think you can install alogcat from market, and then pause when you need to and save to file.
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidfeen809:
Lmao yu ass jk sorry for the typo I ment all g2 lmaoooo
[G2 and Desire Z General] elmejor183:
Can anyone whom has received the update pull the WifiCalling app from the post and upload it.

Personally, To see if it works on a Nexus One and to see if it doesn't do device check.

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
So far only about 3 people supposed got this update, and none of them know how to use Logcat, much less pull the apk. Good luck with that.:cool:
[G2 and Desire Z General] tr.slate:
Cant they just DL AppControl from the market and backup to sd? Shouldnt be too hard...
[G2 and Desire Z General] tankmorph:
If I ever get the update, I'll do it for you. But like I said, no update for me yet, and nobody is sharing the direct download link, or a update.zip, or anything yet...

I have an N1 I'd like to try WiFi calling on myself!

Not to mention...AppControl is like $3, and Logcat is free.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tr.slate:
Yeah, me too. I think most of the peeps hanging out here are waiting for that exact reason.

Another way to pull it would be to temp root and use root explorer. May or may not work...
[G2 and Desire Z General] smasraum:
And assuming that everyone on the Internet knows as much as you know, is probably really silly. You need to assume that everyone is an idiot (until otherwise proven intelligent) and work from there. I'm sure there's plenty of stuff that I would think is easy that you may be clueless about and vice versa.

If it's really easy, post up the instructions. Maybe they'll help.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tr.slate:
I think instructions have been posted quite a few times throughout this thread. I know that it takes time to get the links to the DL, tht why I tried to post ideas on how to get the uma apk specifically. As i dont have a g2, and the rooting issues with it, these ideas might or might not work.
[G2 and Desire Z General] elmejor183:
If the app doesn't have security protection then it can be pulled with ASTRO i believe. If it is, then yeah that would require root to gain access to the secure partition.

But since the app should go into the system directory i actually think it might not be able to pull it with ASTRO's app backup util. Someone might need to just travel to the /system/app folder and get it from there. If that folder is protected if not rooted im not sure. But i do see the folder without root permissions on my Nexus One on ASTRO.
[G2 and Desire Z General] smasraum:
If they have adb capability, then they can probably pull the file with that. I pulled some files via adb before I had temp-root. I'm not sure if the apk files are available without root or not.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tr.slate:
if i cant get uma and fm radio the terrorists have already won.
[G2 and Desire Z General] smasraum:
I haven't seen or heard of that app, you'd probably have to be more specific. If you want the apk, you may have to do some spoon-feeding or hand holding if you don't want to just be patient.

ie

download app xx, open the app and browse to xx, hit menu, etc....
[G2 and Desire Z General] tr.slate:
Once you DL it from market its really self explanatory. the app itself walks you through what you need to do basically. If someone needs help with it pm me and ill be more than happy to do a walk through.

http://curvefish.com/apps/appcontrol.htm

**Actually nm, it seems appcontrol only reads from the data/app folder, and doesnt include the system/app. And from what i imagine, uma will prob be in system app...**
[G2 and Desire Z General] smasraum:
I've got alogcat running. I'll probably be one of the last folks to get the update from TMO, but hey, anything's possible. At what level do I need to be viewing to get the link? I'm currently at debug, but that puts A TON of stuff across the screen.
[Droid Incredible General] Gahh Its Lee:
I bought an 1800mah battery from eBay and its slightly larger then the stock. My back door snaps shutters minus one corner (its had a faulty corner clip since I got it) should I worry about my door popping off while in my case? Would that be bad at all?
[Droid Incredible General] Gahh Its Lee:
Never mind the battery temp didn't work so I took it out because I'm worried about it over heating
[G2 and Desire Z General] jashsu:
Are you emailing HTC America about this? Not sure what you think that will accomplish given that none of their low level engineering is done in the US. Also, what's with the rage over root? Did the labelling on your G2 box promise root or bootloader access? I thought we all went into this with the assumption this would be a consumer device and as such was fair game for any sort of anti-cracking protection.
[G2 and Desire Z General] simobile:
It's not really about the protection on the device as it is that they have to release the source code when they release the devices. HTC is getting out of hand with this. Google HTC GPL violation and you'll see what I mean.

Also the box did say that it had 4gb of internal storage. That turned out to be as true as me saying "I have a 12 inch **** but only when I have a certain signed key unlockable erection."
[G2 and Desire Z General] nighthawk626:
lmfaooooooooooo i died reading this man hahahahahaha im in tears man. but that is true tho. what shocked is that this guys actually read and replied your messages. unbelievable, i would have thought they would send you one of those monotone messages like "thanks for contacting us, we appreciate your concern and we will get back to you type bologne " this shows that htc aint that bad but this still sucks, for now. two things lead me to believe that its gonna get rooted permanently:

1: this phone is bound to have updates which obviously isnt the stock that the phone came with. if this was a computer chip or whatever then any phone that comes with it wont recieve any updates because it will return to original way it came in the box right?

2: it will be really pointless releasing the source code if it wouldnt help with the rooting.

im not the best when it comes with source codes and rooting, im just thinking out loud is all. feel free to correct me. :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] drumking:
Well done. The one thing that bugs me about HTC is that they make the hardware not the OS. It’s not like I'm opening the phone to change out chip sets. What I think we need is a well written stock letter that every member of XDA can e-mail by the masses to HTC and T-Mobile demanding them to release the open source code they use in there, so called “everything you” devices.

One person is noisy but a thousand or more is deafening. :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] simobile:
I do agree that I was also shocked that they were actually responding to my messages instead of some generic corportate bs. So I do give them Kudos for that.

This is kinda what I envisioned for this thread. You could share your experiences with HTC or Tmobile if you have already contacted them and If you haven't hopefully it would prompt you too. I would like them to come out in November and say that that 90% of device complaint calls / emails were from the G2. Unrealistic I know but I can dream.
[G2 and Desire Z General] shograt:
... Why do people keep bringing up the GPL? AFAIK, Android isn't released under the GPL. It's Apache licensed.

And even for the GPL, there's never been a 'the -instant- you release a product, the source must be there' - it's a 'you have to make the source available' (again, this is GPL, -not- Apache, just pointing out). That can be in the form of punch cards delivered via mule, if they want.

The GPL has many vagueness issues like this (or at least, v2 did, v3 fixed some of it, but who uses v3?).

I'd say HTC's being fairly good about it, in that they release the source at all, given that the Apache license doesn't require it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Jorsher:
I doubt they are withholding it just because they have nothing better to do. If you've ever worked with a large company, I'm sure you're aware of how the easiest tasks can take weeks of paper work and general BS to get done...

While I agree they should have it out a bit quicker, I'm really getting annoyed at all the whining (not necessarily directed at this thread). Most of the complaints are valid, but I wish people would just relax.

Despite the rooting issues, the "hidden" memory, hinge not being as firm as people want, etc...I still am happy with the phone. There's some preinstalled junk, but nothing like practically every other phone on the market. The hardware is nice, and there's already an update despite how new the phone is.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mustafazr:
Ditto

Second that!
[G2 and Desire Z General] fastludeh22:
Your right about android being apache, that's why they can have closed source things like sense. HOWEVER the kernel is infact a moddified linux kernel, which in fact falls under GPLv2. According to the GPL violations angency has stated that they are infact in viaolation.

And simobile glad you started this thread, seems people were more concerned with my grammer the the problem at hand here...
[G2 and Desire Z General] SuperDave81:
Knock this **** off before HTC stops making quality phones for us because of little ****s like you. Sit back and wait, the phone's only been out a week. Quit ruining it for everyone else.
[G2 and Desire Z General] arthurbrownleeiv:
As someone who gives his hard earned money to HTC, how does he not have the right to ask them whatever he wants? If they don't respond, or blow him off, it'll turn a lot of us off HTC.

He isn't ruining anything other than your little bubble which I'm pretty sure no one else cares about.
[G2 and Desire Z General] timothysimmons:
One thing about their reply - they said the microSD card was max 16 gb. Whatever happened to the 32gb their other phones can read? Was this an error by customer services?
[G2 and Desire Z General] simobile:
I know there is quite a few holes in the responses they gave me... 16gb vs 32gb, a bug that tmob and them are working on to fix missing memory? Quite odd indeed. Despite all those things I would urge everyone to send them a message and please post responses here. I'd like this to stay topical and not become a "oh I have a me too trolling comment in my head so let me reply" So please go to the link below and shoot them a message if you have a complaint about all this. The more people that do the better chance we won't have to sit back and wait 90-120 days for this source. It's super simple and they seem to respond pretty quick.

http://www.htc.com/www/about_htc_bymail.aspx
[G2 and Desire Z General] SuperFly03:
Man people are really butt hurt over everything not being perfect on launch day over this phone. Holy ****...

I mean come on guys. If your biggest problem is a lack of source code and part of the internal memory is supposedly missing then your life really isn't all that bad.

I'd like to think if the worst thing going on in my life is I'm mad at a cell phone then my life is at an all star level compared to most people.
[G2 and Desire Z General] simobile:
Congratulations you win a bridge....You can live under it and charge people as they pass over. Jesus Christ your thoughts are so important go ahead and spill them.

Plus you might be interested in my new site

www.XDA-i<3-stockdevices.com

Since that's all the trolls seem interested in.
[G2 and Desire Z General] SuperFly03:
Ummm, wtf?
[G2 and Desire Z General] simobile:
Funny how when a post doesn't adhere to the topic at hand it makes people go WTF? Now ask yourself did your post have anything to do with the topic of this thread? Or anything to do with the want to modify or dev a device?

:rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z General] arthurbrownleeiv:
Uhm, I spend $500 on a new phone, and I can't even count on the stupid thing to stay running through the day? Yeah, I'd consider that something to be pissed about. I've owned many HTC devices over the years, and have bought most of them outright in the release week. NEVER have I had one with as many issues as the G2. I took it back today, and told them even if they fix all these issues (screen, memory, random reboots and lockups, and trackpad spazzing out) I doubt I'd pick another one up.

I've got a funny feeling, that some of these issues tie directly into the locking down of rooting on this phone as well... Whether it be technical, or they just wasted all their time locking it down rather than doing some basic Q&A, it's a pretty big issue.

So yeah, I don't advise you coming in here and telling people that it is no big deal that a device that costs as much as a new laptop doesn't work worth ****.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Photopuppet:
haha, just saw this. WTF are you doing on XDA if you don't want to mod your device?
[G2 and Desire Z General] totaldrk62:
While I think saying the phone doesn't work worth **** is a bit of a reach, you handled it correctly if you aren't happy. Speak with your wallet. Buy a Samsung and send HTC an email (with a pic of your Galaxy S) saying you've lost a customer. Believe it or not they notice things like that. Having worked for a large bank (think largest in the country) we almost always noticed hand written letters or personal emails. They stand out compared to say an online petition.

Stop feeding him. He'll just get bigger. Way to keep a cool head in your dealings. I like what I'm seeing there.

That was my thought. If you're content with your phone being stock...why would you be on XDA? And really...stop bothering HTC or they'll stop making phones. Let me read that again. Yep he really did say that if the customer bothers the company that creates NOTHING BUT PHONES, they are going to stop making phones. Brilliant.
[G2 and Desire Z General] SuperFly03:
I've rooted/hacked every device I've had in the past 2 years... what makes you think I wouldn't want to root the G2?

Did you think to exchange it? I'm just asking because I haven't had a single issues with my G2 except for the borked exchange protocols (which believe me blows but I'm using Touchdown as a stop gap till they fix it).

I've had my G2 off the charger for about 40 hours and I still have 30% of my battery left so again, maybe you had a defective one. I don't know.

I will agree with that sentiment. I bet our lack of free space is as if they had 2 copies of the OS on the internal memory chewing up the total space.

However, I disagree with the sentiment that the G2 doesn't work worth ****. My GF and I both have G2's and have had them for about a week and the only issue we've both had to date is the exchange protocols and free space. Other than that it has been great. Do I wish tethering was available on day 1? yes but I've never had a phone from a company that offers free tethering. It has always been an add on to your bill which I refused to pay for therefore I rooted the device to get WiFi tether (among other things).

Root will take time but it will get rooted. It took the community months to root the Incredible and the Droid X had an eFuse chip but was still rooted. I wish it was easier to root phones but that's not the way things work. At the end of the day they (T-Mo and HTC) have to provide support for the product they make and if root is so easy a monkey could root their phone then they would have to support any and all changes made by a user who is rooted which could be a disaster as they reasonably allowed root as a basic function of the device. However, if they make root hard then they do not have to provide any support because you are circumventing controls that they have put in place in order to maintain a stable device.

Also you seem to go off on HTC for not releasing the source code on day 0 which is a bit ridiculous. Haven't they always released the source code for their Android devices in due time?
[G2 and Desire Z General] simobile:
Sorry feed sack is empty. It'll refill when topic is relevant.
[G2 and Desire Z General] arthurbrownleeiv:
I tried 2, both were exactly the same. And by the threads on here where others are having the issues, I don't believe either two were defective at all.

Even with all the random reboots, ram, etc sorted, I still would have returned it as I can't believe it drops calls so often. Just to test again, I was on a phone call with my HD2 the entire route today, and never lost the call. It only got "fuzzy" once. Where as the G2, two days in a row, dropped 3 times each trip. Sure, maybe this could be fixed with a radio update, but when would that come?

I did write HTC, and I expressed my concern over the device, as far as picking something else up and telling them about it, I didn't. I just made sure they knew I'd rather use an older device that worked better, than this new one.

As far as the source code? That isn't a huge issue for me. I understand it'll take them some time, but saying that 90-120 is what the open source community says, is an outright lie. Plus, some peoples responses from HTC is that the 4gb ram is a glitch, where as they told me it was a "feature to keep my phone running well."

I can take mistakes, and bugs, but outright lies is BS.
[Touch CDMA General] ss0mohit:
I'm a long time vogue user (had mine for about a year now) and I just recently (about 6 months ago) got a mac.

I've dualbooted my machine to run windows 7 and everytime I try to download a rom and run the RRU, it doesn't work and says "It failed to complete the task"

Any suggestionS?
[Touch CDMA General] mikurej95:
Weird... I'm dual booting also, but its a hackintosh. So not really the same cuz mac needs specific drivers to run windows. try updating them if any are available, especially for usb and such. and try it again double checking if your doing everything right, and i'm going to guess you have been doing this before you got the mac. if at all possible, use a windows box, maybe the old one you had before you switched to mac.

ORRRR http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=399762

good luck