yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 General] VelJharig:
That would be really good news, if confirmed at launch. Engadget is now reporting that all of the HTC launch devices (not counting the 7 Pro) are using the MSM8250:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/windows-phone-7-handsets-the-tale-of-the-tape/

All of the other spec sheets I've seen for the HTC products said that they were going to use the QSD8250, so that change would be some welcome news for the release devices. The MSM chip also supports HSPA+, which the older chip didn't. Now we just need to confirm that the HTCs have a microSD slot for their internal storage... (think I'll have to give up on the notion that they'll come out with a front-facing camera).
[Windows Phone 7 General] gmfeld:
As an AT&T and a QWERTY user, looks like the shorter end of the stick is coming my way, since all I'll get at launch for a QWERTY device is the LG Quantum, with the 3.5 inch screen. The smallest screen of them all. Not too excited about that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
So I guess that make you what qualified to make this statment cause you and your android/iphone friends didnt get an invite? i do believe this was more directed to the media and such... i am sure consumers will learn all about it in due time.. and weather Balmer is the right person or not to speak the fact is that microsoft pulled off the largest launch of an os by far with the likes of ios, andriod, rim, the list goes on... 30 countrys, 60 mo, the largest oem with 10 handsets and support from the largest software and game developers.. so regardless of who gives the speach the fact remains no one has even come close to this type of launch... sounds like you iphodroid guys are getting alittle jelious...
[Windows Phone 7 General] anhyeuemmaimai:
you must be under a rock in an underground cavern in some quarenteened area 51 type of place because even our mechanics in the shop know about windows phone 7 launch and are talking abou it with some intrest.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lip:
Well I can't help you if you are completely ignorant...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/steve-ballmer-talks-wp7-today-on-today-gets-no-respect-from-mat/

direct link: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/39612930#39612930

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/10/11/microsoft-phone-launch.html

http://www.thestar.com/business/com...soft-needs-to-get-serious-about-mobile-phones

The second two links are from Canada.

The guy in the black shirt is steve jobs...and yes, balmer is energetic...perhaps too much...you seriously must be thinking of someone else if you dont think he is energetic...

:p
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
@vetvito is an idriod fanboy hes always in everyones post trying to trash wp7...
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I agree totally that it was one of the poorest major product launches I've seen. And it's not just the presentation or Ballmer or the fact that he was wrong (Jobs was laughing at the idea of making tablets once). The presentation was poor, but more importantly it was about all they did. The launch and prelaunch simply made little to no impact as far as I can see. Sure they will now rely on more traditional marketing tools such as advertising, but they blew the launch for sure.
[Windows Phone 7 General] powersquad:
ummm so does apple hands out free phones at their launch or does everyone in the world knows when apple's keynote speech is?

launch is on 21st october and 8th novembor...

reserve the judgement till then..
[Windows Phone 7 General] vangrieg:
I'm not sure about everyone, but lots of non-techies do know that Apple launched a new iPhone or even Apple TV. And the mainstream press covers Apple events much better.

Part of it is bias, part of it is the fact that there's much more intrigue in what Apple talks about as they are a much more secretive company. But a big part of it is poor job done by MS's PR and marketing, I think.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
So when we look at an overview of technology:

+ screen technology (s-lcd or s-amoled)

+ screen resolution

+ 1GHz cpu

+ wifi n

+ minimum 5MP with flash + dedicated camera button

We focus on the negatives:

- low storage capacity in all but one phone

- unmovable removable sd card or no slot

- no bluetooth file transfer

- no mass storage mode

- zune software dependence

The only one that cannot be fixed through firmware upgrades or 3rd party apps is the low storage capacity. There is nothing mediocre about the physical hardware.

What would you have liked to see? Dual Core CPU? The ability to play Crysis?
[Windows Phone 7 General] alx452:
I agree with you. It seems that there's people that want to have Core i7, 4GB RAM and 500GB of storage in a pocket size smartphone with a battery that last one week... Talk about dreaming!

The only thing that's really lacking in this hardware is definitely storage, if there's no SD card expansion then they should offer 16GB/32GB options.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Like I stated very poor launch. Fact only a handful of non tech sites covered the launch.

So what they showed 10 hand sets. Fact is you cant purchase the one you want.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
Other than the ****ty winmo6.5, have the snapdragons been used for anything else?

It's really hard to gauge the performance of this chipset with android as it's running ona VM.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ilabstudios:
I agree. As someone who works in marketing and social media I can tell you that the product launch was a failure. Instead of starting off with Balmer showcasing the phones they should have showed a video introduction to hype up the crowd, then do something exciting like bring on the Windows Phone mascots from the TV ads to get the message across that the phones are about personalisation, instead of having Balmer repeat 'Mine' several times. (We got the idea)

Apple pay leading journalists from newspapers, magazines and sites to attend their launches and pay a group of people to hype up the crowd, start clapping waves and so on. None of that seemed to happen during this launch. You can get a sense for how crap the event went by the atmosphere during the end where they all clapped, it wasn't a standing ovation instead a low mutter of claps as if to say 'I'm glad it's over now'.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
That's cause Apple is secretive about what they're working on and MS is very open on what they're working on. Apple tries to hide as much as possible, then have a big release event.

MS is much more open, even blogging on specific details of a project, months if not years in advance. We basically knew everything about the software & hardware before the launch event. The event is just the rubber stamp.

I prefer MS's style...you get to see the thought process behind some of the design decisions made in the final product.
[Windows Phone 7 General] the-wrangler:
Ditto...but im with bell in canada, and this is what were being offered - the LG Quantum. im really not impressed at all with that LG. its not an attractive device at all. been pretty pumped to try one of these badboys out but i dont think i want that turd of a device (my opinion).
[Windows Phone 7 General] addicus:
The standards that MS has to live up to are higher than any other of these companies. They get no to little credit for great or minor improvements and tons of crap for every mistake. One of the reason I didn't want android on this site is the fan boys are just the same as the apple fan boys but for a different product. What I mean is they generally hate on everything MS does.

The launch was good enough for people who needed to know about it (media). I wasn't going to expect people sleeping outside of stores 2 days ahead of launch like the apple heads. Google didn't get that and MS won't. I expect great handsets with an awesome OS at a reasonable price. 2 out of 3 so far and I'm hoping these phones are priced similar to the high line Droid phones and the HD2.

Let's see how much MS ramps it up in the next month or so. Remember in the States this is a GIGANTIC election year with governors, representatives (local, state & federal) and senators up for election. MS will probably push the commercials back until after the first week of November. It would be the smart thing to do.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Trig0r:
I'm hoping all the released phones are "Reference" designs and a set minimum spec for WP7 devices so you know if its WP7 your getting a certain spec device..

In the next 6 months I'm really hoping we'll see the OEM's get to really show us what they can do.
[Windows Phone 7 General] addicus:
This is what was stated from day one by Microsoft. The minimum spec guide on these phones is the highest ever for any ppc OS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Trig0r:
They did, lol ok, didnt know that...

well hopefully then we'll see in the next few months what HTC have been doing in the last year since I got my HD2, hopefully by the end of the year they will release something that will take over from the HD7 and actually be a worthy replacement..
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
The title of this topic is: Mediore launch hardware

Not: Mediocre launch

So I would figure the OP is saying the phones that launched are mediocre, not the hoopla in the event.

The only issue I really have with the hardware is the odd restriction on the microsd card. It seems like a bad idea to use an easily removable part as an ingetral part of your OS.

Remember, in order to get nice and friendly with the people that sell electronic content you need to provide architecture that looks like if it is actually trying to prevent piracy. Music transfer via bluetooth, card slots, and mass storage modes do not make distributors feel warm and fuzzy.

Windows Phone 7 will not be for everyone. But the operations that it does it does very well. The information is readily available and organized. People Hub is very powerful, emailing is very feature-rich, and Xbox integrate looks very promising if you are one of the 30 Million that own one.

The only thing I would have liked to see is more affordable phones. But they went with a premium platform so I am looking to get the cheapest one I can afford (probably the Trophy).
[Windows Phone 7 General] rruffman:
well compaired to the pricing for previous smartphones that came out in my area i would say the price hs droped.. example when the touch pro came out a few years ago it cost me 350.00 with 2 year contract on att, then when tilt 2 came out last year it was 299.00 and now all wp7 phones on att at launch will be 199 and a much better phone!! that is a huge difference than from the past so i would say they are trying to keep cost down.. and i am sure by summer 2011 that price will be 149 or even 99 for launch devices.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Trig0r:
$199 would make sence though, otherwise once the OEM's start playing with the reference design and bringing new toys out what would they be priced at?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Paolo01:
Nice!!! New battery specs for the Samsung Focus.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/7/phones.aspx#detail=1536

7 hours talk time and 15 days Standby. This is more than double the original specs.

I think that we will start to see a slow trickle of these specs improving themselves as the wireless providers start providing input to equipment manufacturers.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ang3lmack:
I can't for the life of me find where I can edit the lock screen sliders, I want to change the slider itself (i know where to edit the actual pictures on the lock screen).

Incredible
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ang3lmack:
Bump...

Incredible
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxwhitehawk:
Hello everyone,

I posted about this earlier but don't think I explained it well enough so let me try again. Last night I put Voodoo on my phone. Then this morning I was messing with some mods and I booted the phone into clockwork recovery. In there I cleared my cache and then i went to advanced>Wipe Dalvik Caceh and got this

E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk1p2

(File exists)

I cleared the Dalvik Cache and it said it completed successfully. Then I remember that line showing up when you tried to flash something or perform a nandroid with voodoo enabled. So I booted up my phone and everything appears to be ok. I am able to download apps, everything seems to be working, ect. Then I go into Terminal and type "mount" and this is the what I get back

$mount

rootfs / rootfs ro 0 0

tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,mode=755 0 0

devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=600 0 0

proc /proc proc rw 0 0

sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0

/dev/block/stl6 /mnt/.lfs j4fs rw 0 0

tmpfs /sqlite_stmt_journals tmpfs rw,size=4096k 0 0

none /dev/cpuctl cgroup rw,cpu 0 0

/dev/block/stl9 /system rfs ro,vfat,log_off,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0

/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0

/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /data_tmo rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0

/dev/block/stl10 /dbdata rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0

/dev/block/stl11 /cache rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0

/dev/block/stl3 /efs rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0

/dev/block//vold/179:1 /sdcard vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,uid=1000,gid=1015,f mask=0102,dmask=0002,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp4 37,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0

/dev/block//vold/179:9 /sdcard/sd vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,uid=1000,gid=1015,f mask=0000,dmask=0000,allow_utime=0022,codepage=cp4 37,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0

$

I know from previously typing "mount" when confirming whether i am ext4 or rfs that this is very wrong looking. At the top where it says "/dev/block/stl6 /mnt/.lfs j4fs rw 0 0" it previously would say "/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data rfs rw" ... So what the heck does this mean? I have disabled voodoo and that did not change it. I have even downloaded the froyo that don't brick and downgraded back to 2.1 true stock and I am still getting this. I have this funny feeling that my cache is lost in limbo or something. Can anyone tell me whether this is normal or what it means? I just want to make sure that nothing is out of place or if something is wrong, what I need to do to fix it. Thanks in advance!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silow:
You won't be able to wipe dalvik-cache with voodoo enabled. It's located in the /data mount which Clockwork won't be able to access.

The mount you posted looks fine. Your /data is mounted at /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 as rfs. The /cache is mounted at /dev/block/stl11. Everything is where it's supposed to be. The order isn't important.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxwhitehawk:
Thanks for the reply. However, after reverting back to 100% stock (voodoo disabled) I have rooted, installed clockwork, and tried wiping the dalvik cache again. Everytime when I click advanced>wipe dalvik cache it still gives me the "can't mount... (file exists)" bit. Is that normal?

EDIT: So I think I may have figured this out. That partition is used to install apps to your sd card, which is only present in Froyo. Soooo it is normal to receive that error when running 2.1...
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Ph0z3:
Is there a way to better my location accuracy with ONLY the wireless network? I dont want to use my GPS for things like BeautifulWidgets and FourSquare.. but i would deffinetly like more accuracy as far as my location.. There are alot of times BW says I am about 20 miles away from where i really am, when at home.

This issue is not a lack of signal, i retain HSPA+ everywhere i am in the Kansas City metro area, but there are a few places it occasionally is off/wrong. Doing a refresh will often fix it, but there are times when it moves only a few miles closer to another location.

If you can suggest anything, that would be great.

I have BusyBox fully installed & RootExplorer, so please dont hesitate with any advanced ideas.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Dexter_nlb:
when you write wireless network , you mean mobile GSM? right?

its all about how many cell locations and how close they are..
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] Ph0z3:
yeah i mean the towers pinging me & determining my position via tower relay signal.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zerox8610:
So i went and talked to verizon about my defective eris, they took a look at it. Sent me a new one. Now i havent even got to send back my first one and the new one is having the same problem....

Its got the trackball bug, scrolling to the left. Now seeing as this only happens when i NEED to use my phone im assuming when i take it in it's going to make me look stupid in front of verizon. Now is there anything i can do to convince them this one is defective and i need a new phone??? Preferably a phone that isnt the Eris?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chicken59:
I don't think so man. Everyone has had different experiences, some good some bad. You just have to find the right Verizon rep apparently. Try to be polite but ask to speak to a supervisor. Talk about switching to AT&T if you get another Eris. Talk about the Eris being defective and how many people you know with trackball problems. There is some poor soul on here who is on his 6th or 7th Eris so don't feel too bad if it doesn't work. Let us know how it goes.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
I'm on my third and almost sent that one back in as the usb port is screwed up. I've heard of people getting offered a different phone on the fourth one but also of people on their fifth Eris. So I have no clue how to get a different phone, I asked the last time but got a no. But was told in December I could do an early upgrade, 1 year into a 2 year contract.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Renegade8100:
The trackball issue is due to the USB being too close to the track ball on the pcb. Basically when the usb cable is jiggled, you may recover trackball usage. It is just a design flaw. My trackball is only operable when you make it worse by ****ing with it but generally the problem is inevitable. The new phone you got is actually a refurb that verizon failed at testing. You may even be able to use this consistency to get discounts, credits, etc for a new droid 2 or something.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hungry Man:
I had that issue, it wasn't a problem. I told them it happened occasionally.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 56K:
When i had my enV1 it had battery issues, on my 4th they gave me the enV2.

Push the issue, but be nice.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stonent:
Just say, I wish there was a phone *ahem*dinc*ahem* that was similar in formfactor as my eris but had a way of inputting that didn't use a ball. *ahem*dinc*ahem*
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 56K:
dinc??????????
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tmason68:
I think dinc is a Droid Incredible.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stonent:
Well they called it a dinc on Android forums and figured that was sort of a standard in the community.
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DS36:
hello

flash the ruu from hboot and your good
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrObvious:
Wrong thread?
[Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phaded:
Call technical support, don't go to a store. Tell them you'd upgrade if you could. You hate eris, blah blah blah. I got two incredibles this way and paid nothing
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] trunkstar1:
I recently reinstalled Beautiful Widgets and when I added the home weather widget (small) to my home page, I noticed that some of the text is overlapping other text for some reason. For example, the location is overlapping the conditions (San Francisco is partially on top of "partly cloudy") and the current temperature overlaps the high/low temperatures.

Anyone ever see this before or know how to fix this?

Other possibly relevant info:

I ran the OTA update the other day and when it auto-rebooted itself, it hung on the Vibrant screen, permanently. I ended up using Odin to get back to stock, hence the reason I had to reinstall Beautiful Widgets.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] teamreidy48:
It depends on what font you usei had same issue with the crillee italic went to stock and it was ok
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] trunkstar1:
Thanks, it was the font like you said.

Its weird because helvetica neue used to work just fine before my recent drama from the OTA update.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] xajuran:
This happened with the last update to BW. Quite a number of users complained about it, but the dev doesnt seem to care. He rearranged things a bit and it creates a problem.

Nothing you can do except pester the dev to fix it.

Xa
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Big_O:
Keep getting 2.2.1 updates after root. How can this be stopped? Its annoying to keep rooting only to get the system updates again and again. I'm rooting with a signed fr91 file. Any way to stop this?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yozpalang:
Upgrade to 2.2.1 frg83 then use the one click super root to root 2.2.1 you won't get the update any more u can find it in nexus wiki
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kornball:
Download 'Quick Boot' from the market and use it to reboot the phone. Then, clear the update notification from the notification menu. The update message should go away for a while (mine lasted a week before it came back).

I'm still somewhat hesitant to upgrade to FRG83 and use SuperOneClick since some people in the thread are reporting problems. I love my phone how it is right now!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nexusdue:
Do manual rage root ... no problems.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Memnoch30:
Agreed!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kornball:
Are you and Memnoch30 referring to the post you laid out in another thread? I'm pretty sure you wrote detailed instructions on how to do the manual rage root using adb. Will this method work fine if all I want is to run stock 2.2.1 with root-requiring apps like setcpu and move2sd enabler? Sorry for being such a noob :(
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nexusdue:
Yes: Instructions

But read the whole thread to make sure you know what you are doing!!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Big_O:
Any other options? I'm not going to fr83 and unfamiliar with rage root.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inferus:
Why don't you install a custom rom and be done with it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kornball:
I just installed 2.2.1 and used the SuperOneClick method to root the phone again. I had to turn the phone off, run the program, and then boot the phone for it to work. I suggest you try this method. It couldn't be much simpler.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mlbl:
Now i keep getting the new firmware update message and i cant seem to turn it off even with the quickboot. Any ideas?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
Install the update, root again. Now really, this "idea" is 1 message above yours - what made you post?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mlbl:
Hm i tried to update but failed, could be due to tampering of the build number that I did previously but after that it didn't bug me anymore, at least not for now. Will try the superoneclick one next time. Thanks.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
It might be back in several days, but if you've tampered with the system and advanced the build number - it shouldn't appear anymore.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mlbl:
yeah i sure hope so. will know in a few days :)
[Epic 4G General] SemiGamer:
Alrighty well I'm running a custom ROM (Baked Snacks v1.3 to be exact) and I'm loving it, though, I failed to notice that Sprint Apps were removed, which is fine, I don't care about most of them, but I use Sprint-Zone ALOT.

Anyway to flash it in, or an APK or something? Would like to continue running on BSv1.3 and have Sprint Zone. Any help is appreciated, thanks. :)
[Epic 4G General] SemiGamer:
Nobody? :/
[Epic 4G General] dthunder137:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7299924&postcount=11

Help any? I don't have it anymore to see if its still valid.