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[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] 84Gti Guy:
Yes got the email yesterday as well. Ordered this morning, SNES Style for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
I updated the main page with the new information. I ordered mine this morning also with an extra set of buttons just in case they become sold out.

If anyone is feeling happy, send some thanks my way ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Wing_Zero85:
I live in italy, If I'll order one for my desire Z, when it will be shipped? :)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] HotShotAzn:
You should probably ask the Game Gripper company :)

Question for everybody that ordered one:

Are you not using a case?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Wing_Zero85:
I'm not using a case.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] goorpy:
How does this interact with the phone and (S)NESoid?

Using the touchscreen controls is an awfuly frustrating experience. Does the GG overlay on top of the screen, or over the keyboard, and use keyboard input? Forgive my ignorance.

I assume it goes over the keys, but this means it needs to be carried separately most of the time, and then clicked on when needed?

edit: Also, the website doesn't work for me at all -- clicking add to cart does nothing.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] HotShotAzn:
It goes over the keyboard, so yes, you would need to carry it around when you needed/wanted it. Note that it doesn't work if your G2 is in a case. Deal breaker for me, unfortunately.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
K, first feedback!

I love everything about the game gripper EXCEPT! And its a big accept. Every key I press is nice and responsive but the left key...

The left key is the ".com" key. The piece of plastic that presses down on the left key is not completely centered on the key. It is on the right of the key. Which doesn't give it perfect responsiveness and the push back click snapple bottle type thing. Really pisses me off because i ve heard so many good reviews about other. They should have made sure that it pressed down on the center plain and simple.

I will most likely contact them and see if we can get something changed... I would love for this thing to function correctly...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] jcX4ever:
I second this..
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] gaisto17:
Mind posting pics of it on the phone??
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
I got a fix for that annoying thing for the left button. Ill try it out tomorrow. I'm almot 100 percent sure it'll work
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] huntman21014:
I will buy you a beer if you make it work.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] archer174:
Just got mine in today and it's working flawlessly with psxdroid. The left button was stiff at first and then just kind of worked itself in. Overall I think it's a great device for $15.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] whiteghetto:
Pick of it on my device. so far i love it.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] HotShotAzn:
if you are using the ".com" button as the left key, what are you using as your down key?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] 84Gti Guy:
I got mine yesterday and it is awesome, my left button was a little stiff as well. My 7 year old loved it and killed the battery on my phone last night as he could not set it down, even the wife was impressed with it.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
We aren't choosing to use the .com key. The game gipper forces us. Ill be making a new control pad out of plastic to use the "wasz" keys. Left key is pissing me off a lot, especially in action type games.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] HotShotAzn:
I gotcha on that point, but what I was trying to get at (and this is probably more PSX related) was what keys did you map in the emulator?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
When did you guys order yours? I did priority shipping and still didnt get mine.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] KiNG OMaR:
Got mine yesterday, and I must say... THIS THING IS THE SHIIIIIIIT :p
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] PatrickHuey:
I want to order mine. Looks like reviews are great.

sent from my V I S I O N.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] RayNbow:
If the left key uses the ".com" key, then Desire Z users will have a problem. The Tab-key doesn't work in SNESoid.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
then root it and use key mapper
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] bongd:
An interim solution would be to put a dollop of adhesive to the contact. This should bring about a bit more pressure and make it work better.

I'm not sure if I'd contact them unless they were willing to ship out a new one in advance without replacing it. I'm just grateful either way. Can't wait until mine arrives in the mail!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] HotShotAzn:
So if you use keymapper to remap the keys, than it's permanently remapped, right? Kind of sucks to have to go into keymapper before and after each time you play a game...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
true, but think outside the box! There are ways to automate it. Either using Gscript to run a script on the click of a widget or Tasker to automagically run that script when you open snes or any of the other emu's and then run the script to put it back to normal automagically when you exit said emu.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] HotShotAzn:
Interesting...what's the name of the key mapping app? I've tried searching in the market but it didn't come up...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
Re-did my control pad. Hard piece of plastic, I'll probably spray paint the thing.

Works perfect now, great rebound. Also linked the keys to "wasz", no ".com" or "d" anymore. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] MacaronyMax:
Awesome! :D
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
I didn't get it from the market, it was an app made here @ xda in the app section, ill look in my downloads folder on my computer when I get a chance and upload it if you still can't locate it.

It was just keymapper.apk btw
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
Nice work, would you mind making a tut and posting it in here for everyone to see? I ordered mine with an extra set so I will modding the extra one.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
What's a tut?

All I really didn't was get a large piece of plastic and used a cut wheel on it until it was the correct size. Took about 15 minutes to get it really good. Took me three trys by the way haha.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] jcX4ever:
I was thinking of extending the the left button key plastic so it will hit the center of .com key but your idea is better.. Permission to follow what you did :D
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
lol ofc, what can i do?

I'll be redoing it again, the LR buttons are much more responsive now. I just feel I can get this thing more dead on :)

4th try today!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] MacaronyMax:
Short for tutorial :D
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Troggie81:
Mine came in yesterday. Other than the d-pad issue that everyone's mentioned, I'd also like to point out that the GG covers the headphone jack. Kinda sucks since the G2's speaker isn't the best. I might try cutting a hole in the GG, but I'm a little worried that it would become less secure.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
1. grab a cut wheel

2. chop off old legs

3. grab a chunk of plastic

4. go at the plastic with a cut wheel

5. get some nice 2 part epoxy or super glue

6. slap it together

sorry for the sarcasim, when i redo it ill take a pic of the piece itself before I glue it on. There are some small turns and curves you may not realize you need.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
I'm going to modify mine tomorrow at work to accept my headset. Will post pics when its done.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
wow.... ive probably put a good 10-15 hours on my GG already and didnt even notice this lol.

Ill just drill a hole through the side, will doubtfully make it less secure
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] polarbearmc:
wait a minute...

my excitement has turned to sadness here... are you all saying that the thing doesn't work right? how could they put it out if it doesn't work right? is there any chance they may fix it in future shipments? i'm not gonna cut pieces of plastic and glue stuff... and i'm also not rooted and don't plan on rooting anytime soon, but i want to order this right now!!

can someone please clear this up, does it really not work right on the american t-mobile g2? that would be insane if they released something that doesnt work.

oh and while that's disappointing that it covers the headphone jack, i suppose i could live with that...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
Mine started out with a perfectly drilled hole to the most exact of tolerances and then I decided to "open her up" to accept different headphone types and not just the ones that came with the phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
Yes ofcourse it works with the G2. People who have the Desire have to remap the tab key because the emulators do not allow you to use it on the desire.

As for physical mods, well, this is Rev. A basically. He may in the future take our modifications and alter the gamepad, if he does then I will purchase a new one, but it works and I enjoy mine very much, if you can't live with something not being 110% out of the box then don't order it.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
I measured it with a caliper, drilled the hole, fit nice and perfect and clean, then I remembered most headphones have that annoying 90* bend, so I made it a rectangle, not the cleanest, but ill polish it up if I can ever stop playing it!

The diameter or the headphone hole is .040", and resides aprox .380" from the left edge of the gamepad, drill accordingly.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] polarbearmc:
i think you might have just talked me into an order. haha. i just saw all these complaints about it not working quite right and got nervous. but if it plays well enough to play some mario, zelda, and puzzle games, i'll be fine. (i'm not exactly trying to play arcade perfect street fighter with this thing)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
I also enjoy it but hell I expect everything that I buy to be 110% out of the box.

It is annoying though how the left key didnt function perfectly. But hell, after 30 minutes of work mines great.

I did send game gripper a pic of what I did and sent them links to the two threads here complaining about the left control pad. So hopefully they didnt make to many first generation ones.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] polarbearmc:
i expect things to work 100% out of the box... 110% would be nice but that never really happens.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
i tried for the first time to play Super Street Fighter, with the D-pad out of the box it wasnt too great, i couldnt get my fireballs off, but with the modded one i was rocking the computer and my buddy playing thru wireless

Great! What would be even better is if they send us the new version for figuring out what to change basically.

Me too :D
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] hexapus:
I actually just emailed the GG guys to ask if they would be willing to send us the updated d-pads (modified per this thread) if we ordered the original GG. Also, hopefully, they read on a bit and find the headphone mod...because, come on...even the original Gameboy had a headphone jack!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] demster:
I also emailed them if there would be a V2 released. This was their reply:

Anyway, I guess I will buy one if someone can post a nice little tutorial about how the modification is done. Or post pics about how the parts look like and stuff.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] hexapus:
Lame! I got this reply:

If we do make a version 2, then we would be able to just send out the dpad.

Thanks

Game Gripper

Which is slightly better, but really no more promising than the reply you got. Kinda disappointed that a WORKING revision isn't higher on their priority list. The rest of the GGs I've gotten have been great. Kind of a let-down that this one is basically unusable without heavy modding. :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] MixToMax:
Just got mine after long wait. Feel disappoint that GG cover my 3.5mm port.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
Lazy pieces of crap. Just out to take your money, dont care about customer satisfaction.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] dv1070:
It looks like the have the V2 for the samsung epic. Which probably means a G2 V2 is on the way.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
yes but there are three questions:

1. how long did it take them to make revision two?

2. how many more revision 1s do they have in stock?

3. will they trash revision 1s or keep selling them when revision 2 is already done?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] bongd:
Man, I'm in Canada and mine still hasn't arrived yet. What a bummer!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] hexapus:
Providing they make one. It sucks though, because releasing a product that's not even usable (and seriously, it's not) is just not acceptable...especially when you've got a bunch of devoted fans willing to shell out $15 for a small hunk of rubber. It shouldn't require any modding to work properly...and the fact that it can be fixed so easily shows the carelessness of their original design.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] GateCityRadio:
The link in the OP doesn't seem to be working.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] bongd:
I really don't want to mess up my tab key.. but how can I remap it?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
Never seen a tab key on a g2 before.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] bongd:
I have a Desire Z :)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Powers88:
Why does the pad thats on the website look different then the one in the OP?

http://www.game-gripper.com/category_s/46.htm
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
I have the one you linked. Maybe the OP just grabbed whatever random pickture he could find.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] ImSoHungry:
fixed

Grabbed a picture before production on the G2 version was drafted

explained above, fixed.

Happy Gaming All
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Eazail70x7:
The Epic 4g game gripper had the same exact issue! If you notice, there is now a version 2 Epic 4g game gripper that corrects the d pad issue. I recommend letting the gg dev know about your concerns so that the issue can be fixed like on the Epic
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] bongd:
Got my Desire Z and I have a Tab button there for the left key. It is also very shoddy. A bit of a bummer but most games I play are RPGs and any action/adventure games you normally use the right directional key or other ones a lot more. WAY better than nothing but wouldn't mind a fixed keypad if they're able to mail an updated version.

Pre-ordered/pledged for a Bluetooth Game Gripper and I hope that they meet their goal so it can go into production. As much as I LOVE my Desire Z, the radio sucks and Wifi/mobile network drops too often. And I need to get on the next generation Android phones once they're released.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
for 75 bucks, you can get one right now. i have two available.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=915518
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
Just realized, bluetooth gg still have no shoulder buttons...........
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] bongd:
Thanks for the offer, man. But I want to avoid having the multiple controllers and cables. It's too large to fit in my man purse. :o
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] buff_rob1256:
I just e-mailed game gripper on the issues with the Desire Z (Tab button not being able to be mapped and unresponsive left button) and got thids response:

So looks like we have to put up with this version at the moment and hope that for users with the Desire Z more devs allow the tab key to be mapped.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] MacaronyMax:
I got this responce :p Albiet about a week ago :D
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] RayNbow:
I don't think it can be solved in the emulators. Pressing down the Tab key on an official HTC Desire Z ROM generates a (scancode=0,keycode=20) keydown event, immediately followed by a corresponding keyup event. Releasing the Tab key does not generate any event.

(At least, this is true at the application level. When monitoring /dev/input/event5, different events can be observed when pressing and releasing the tab key. However, this file cannot be read without permission.)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Carphedon:
Ordered 2 of these game grippers a few days ago. Also had one for N900, worked wonders!

Concerning the tab key, I just tried mapping the it on my desire z in Snesoid and GameBoid, no problems at all. The key mapping is displayed as unknown but works fine when pressed in game.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] RayNbow:
If it works for you, could you please mention which ROM is installed on your device?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Carphedon:
I have some bad news, i just realised i had a G2 without sense rom installed from modaco, it works fine in that rom. I just installed virtuous again and now i cant map the tab key. Since it works in plain android it should be possible in a sense based rom i suppose. I really hope for a solution because i am not planning on switching to plain android for ever.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] buff_rob1256:
At least that shows it could probably be fixed on the software level without the need for the key mapper etc.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Ancanus:
It works for me. I'm using CyanogenMod 6.1.

I actually used Virtuous until I found out about this problem (they re-mapped the .com key to work as a TAB key, effectively breaking the Game Gripper.)

So the various solutions are:

1) Virtuous developers may fix the implementation of the TAB key and make it send the events properly (if possible). You, as an user, can fix this yourself by remapping the key as a workaround.

2) GameGripper can release a different hardware piece that uses another key instead of the .com key (Tab key in Virtuous.) You, as an user, can modify your piece of rubber and make it press another button as a workaround by exerting your undiscovered engineer skills.

3) You can switch to another ROM. This won't solve the issue at the root for your community, however.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] bongd:
I just remapped mine to the Focus or Camera button. Thinking of putting a dab of rubber cement on the key though and seeing it that'll help. Ghetto, but I could always slice it off if need be. :p
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] trance2315:
Looks great.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Carphedon:
Any solutions for the non mappable tab key yet? I posted a request in the virtuous forum about a patch to revert the tab key to a .com key but i did not get a response from any of the developers. One person said that his tab key was mapable while swype was active though. I did not try this since i do not have swype installed. What i did try was replacing the keyboard layout file with one from a g2 rom but this did not turn out to be a solution.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Gwanatu:
I've had no problems with my Game Gripper outside of the shoddy Quake 2 and 3 ports that exist on Android that won't map the key. All the emulators, quake 1, doom, etc. work just fine. Tried CM6, CM7, Sparks (FroYo) and GingerMex (GB) and it works the same in all.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] RayNbow:
Which are all roms without HTC Sense, right?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Gwanatu:
Correct, I was just trying to show that roms without Sense seem to work fine.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Carphedon:
Be that as it may that i would like to see it fixed in sense roms. I tried various non sense roms but miss a lot of functions that i get with sense.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] welshwuff:
If only we could get a simple app that changes the TAB map to something else, like as a widget button to turn it on and off.

Anyway could we start making a list of what emulators and apps DO work with TAB cause every one i tryed doesn't work.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Carphedon:
ButtonRemapper (link) can change the tab button to something else. I don't think it's an ideal solution as i would like to see the tab key work in emulators as it is or get the tab key changed to an .com key on a system wide basis. It can work as a temporary solution though.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] havocnl:
Maybe someone is good enough with scripts to create two scripts, one that maps the key to something other than tab and another one that restores the key to tab...

Which we can run using shortcuts on the homescreen...
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] HotShotAzn:
I have some scripts but don't know the first thing about getting it into an APK to be a widget.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] infernix:
OK so here's what I did.

I have a Desire Z running CM7 nightlies. I also use connectbot so I need special characters; to fix that I use a modified keymap. This keymap can be found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=9162919

However, with that keymap on a Desire Z, the tab key doesn't do anything. The problem is that in the .kl file the tab key is mapped to key 150 whereas on the Desire Z it's key 15.

So an easy fix is to simply edit the .kl file and change that mapping. This is permanent and doesn't require any extra apps to do it.

I've attached modified keymaps for the Desire Z that are made to work well with connectbot AND have a working tab key that c. If you want to fix your own keymap, read the thread thorougly, it's all there; most likely all you need to do is edit the .kl file.

Works for me now both in tigersnes and snesoid lite!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Carphedon:
Ok, fixed my game gripper, no more unresponsive left key and no more remapping. I just turned the left leg around and after a bit of measuring and cutting tiny bits of rubber it worked perfectly. Now it presses the a key instead of tab.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
yup, i did the same thing in the beginning. nuts that we have to modify brand new controllers because that moronic company wont test their own equipment first.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] RayNbow:
Just wondering, which tools did you use for the modification? I assume a knife and some glue, but what type of glue for example?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Carphedon:
I used bison superglue but anything strong and fast that glues plastics will do. Cutting was done with a stanley Knife and i used a round file to somewhat alter the rubber hole it has to go through.

It's indeed a pity that this is what you have to do before you can properly use it -.-
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] doodoms:
Thanks you all! I do it and it works.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] buff_rob1256:
Just wondering on how well this generally works for games and how good the dpad is? (Before or after modding it abit) like is it possible to play games like super mario world or psx and n64 games relatively easily? (I.e. games that need fast button pressing)
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] Carphedon:
The dpad is good but only after the modding. Before the left key does not have any rebound and that just sucks. After some modding the pad workes even with fast button pressing.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] welshwuff:
was hoping more to see an app that doesn't require rooting... it seems an waste to have to hack or chop up my stuff just to make it work like it should of to start. Not really interested in voiding my warranty.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] huntman21014:
Your only hacking up the game gripper, not the phone
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] scottmog:
i didnt realize there was a warranty on gg's
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] welshwuff:
K fine i caved and used a hacksaw and some super glue, worked a charm with left now pressing A instead. Thanks GG for not testing your stuff first.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] bmxrideher:
It works amazing for me. I received it three days ago and my thumbs hurt like a mother fu*ker. I just can't seem to put it down. The game that I find myself playing the most will probably be Tekken 3. I'm having zero issues. Well, besides the whole battery dying thing!
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] riahc3:
So, does simply rooting the Desire Z and/or using a nonSense ROM fix the issue with the left key?
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] RayNbow:
It at least makes it possible to use the key in emulators.
[G2 and Desire Z Accessories] paw3lk:
Has anybody in the UK received their GG yet? I got an email on 28/02 saying it had just been shipped but so far I've not got it.