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[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kurt-willems:
most rom builders recommended HSPL 1.66!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sheikmans:
I used Miri Roms and did not see any recommendations :(

So now I am wondering if the HSPL version can cause a corrupt bootloader...Anyone with the same problems? I really loved my phone and custom Roms but now I am a little bit scary to install HSPL on my new device (when I get one ofcourse)...
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spl4tt:
im using HSPL3 too...but didnt flash a new rom since then.

i would die if my HD2 would break..... >.<!
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] conantroutman:
In theory any version of HSPL could cause corruption......

I dont know whether one is more likely to cause problems than another.

Lots of people use them without any problems at all and as with anything you do to your phone you do it at the risk of something going wrong....

So to answer your question I wouldnt describe any version of HSPL as "safe".....

The "safest" thing to do would be to stick with the stock ROM and use only official updates, that way even if you have a problem flashing you always have your warranty to fall back on...........
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sheikmans:
Well I thought I shoul die, but I am still alive. But I really miss my HD2, you cannot imagine. I cannot mail or check internet, its back to 2009 for me ;)

Thanks for your input all of you. I am really surprised how things can go wrong are get corrupted. We all use the same files (HSPL) and the BIOS of the phone is also very standard I assume...Maybe a bad batch when I bought the phone? (Feb 2010).
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DN41:
what i do, is to flash only hspl when i flash my rom..

i'm not very flash addicted, so i got my rom there for months ;)

or why dont you use sspl?

DN41
[Galaxy S I9000 General] billu:
Never had an Android phone before but plenty of WM ons, (see sig) but feel time is right to jump OS. Desire and Galaxy S seem to be the best 2 around for uk users.

Looking at the specs nearly everything about this phone seems better than the Desire

Pros:

Bigger screen

Super Amoled

Faster CPU

Better GPU (has Desire got one?)

TV-out

8GB Internal memory

720p recording

Good camera (even without the flash it seems to take pretty impressive photos/videos)

Cons:

Froyo update (officially yes, but when? Samsung past record doesn't inspire confidence)

Likelyhood of further Android OS updates (such as gingerbread)

Could people who have experience of both please comment on the general speed of the 2 devices. Is the Galaxy faster in real life doing most things,

especially web browsing (including flash video) and playing videos from MicroSD card.

I would be running these apps if I get an android phone:

Slingplayer

Skyfire

Opera mini

myPlayer

Are there any apps/ anything else which isn't working on the Galaxy which runs o.k. on the Desire.

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zen123:
I have both the phones & a Dell Streak up until yesterday. All those apps you listed work fine on both devices except Slingplayer which I don't know about as I don't use it.

I'm having problems with the web brower of the Galaxy in that when I click on a link the web browser shuts down & returns to the home screen. Also I can change the UA string to set the browser to show desktop version but it won't stay. I've already exchanged one unit & the second one still does it.

I use a well known porn site (ahem, testing purposes only :wink) to test the flash & have to say the Galaxy plays the clips without a hitch (though not super smooth) but the Desire just plays the sound, no video.

On specs alone the Galaxy pisses all over the Desire but in actual use there's not much in it. For sure the Galaxy screen is better & the speaker is much louder & better sounding than the Desire but the Desire feels better quality & I prefer the physical buttons.

The Galaxy will be returned for refund tomorrow because my 7 days are up, but I would probably choose it over the Desire if not for the web browser issues.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] billu:
Thanks for that Zen123.

Probably sensible to wait till Froyo is officially out on Desire and more info about when it will be on the Galaxy but it won't be easy.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] NZtechfreak:
I have both.

Galaxy S pros:

Much better at graphics intensive tasks

Better sound quality, output volume

Better music player with EQ

DivX etc out of the box

TV Out (cable + DLNA)

WiFi tether

1.8GB of storage for app installation

More storage with inbuilt storage

Better screen - not only size and display characteristics but also touch and multitouch (most important for gaming, but not entirely irrelevant elsewhere)

Better loudspeaker

Better battery life

Desire pros:

General operation speed is better

GameBoid works

Widget selection is much, much, better

Hardware keys

Better build quality

Browser is better in terms of function, but the extra 0.3inches of the Galaxy negate that advantage for me

HTC music player works with LastFM, Galaxy's doesn't

Off the top of my head those would be the main things.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] billu:
NZtechfreak, interesting you mention Desire is quicker generally. The difference in browser functionality? Don't they have the same browser?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Ariozo:
Got both:

And like the other say both phones are realy nice, but if i had to chose one i would go for the Galaxy. Why?

Galaxy:

Better screen, colors and most off all i can see it better in sunlight.

Ok, it had a small bit off lagg for me when i did open DialPad, but after i got a task killer no more lagg there. Other then that i have not notice lagg in apps/programs like some other have been notice.

Battery last longer on Galaxy then on desire, and that is importent for one like myself.

And like some say they like the build Quality on desire more, i cant say that is wrong :) But i quite like Galaxy even i guess some should say it is litle "plastic", feeling on it, it is damn light in the pocket.

And if we talk "Root" if both both device use custom roms and the the right chefs make them, Galaxy will be a monster with a custom rom made for it :)

the other standard things i did see they had already write in other posts here :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Cooki3s:
I had the desire first, returned it and went with the SGS. Why?

-The screen is obviously better, bigger while not too big (in my opinion ofc) and properly registers multitouch (desire has problems when you cross axis with 2 fingers, not a problem in normal usage but very annoying when you try to play a game with 'joysticks' on screen).

Edit: The S-amoled also seems to solve some of the pentile problems I found using my desire, like pink colours where gray shoud be.

-Camera quality is slightly better, however the lack of flash sucks, I enjoyed using the flash as a flashlight.

-The media player is just amazing. Goodbye converters, hello divx playback :) . Seriously though, it allows me to save 10's of GB on my desktop's harddrive, space I had to use to store those converted files before.

-Audio quality is top-notch, way better than the desire. It also simulates 5.1 playback and plays very HQ music (my flac library sounds better than ever).

-The GPU. You can actually play a game like asphalt on this, while on the Desire the game hangs constantly.

-Storage (this is only for android 2.1 ofc, but this might still be very important during the next couple of months). If you want to keep a few good games on the Desire at the same time, you will need to root/a2sd. Otherwise you WILL run out of storage. On the SGS, you have more than 10 times the app space.

Now with that said, the Desire has it's perks as well, like the sense ui (it's a lot more elegant than touchwiz), tweaked browser with flash Lite and the overall better experience (I feel the Galaxy S has a tendency to slow down over time, while I didn't have this experience on the Desire, might be that I play more games on the SGS tho).

However, I do feel samsung is putting a lot of effort in this phone and I really believe that we're gonna see some good firmware tweaks very soon. The fact that they are offering some quality apps with the phone, like the tweaked layar version, and the "samsung app store" which offers free stuff like the full asphalt game (which costs 5€ in the gameloft store).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mithent:
Assuming that the Galaxy S is released on T-Mobile UK, this is going to have to be a decision I make as well. I was going to go for the Desire, but since hearing about the Galaxy S I've all but decided to go for that instead. Just a pity the build quality isn't so good, it has a PenTile screen and it doesn't have a flash (though that's a minor complaint) - pity that there isn't a high-end Android phone available without any real drawbacks!

A bit puzzling that it would seem slower than the Desire when the hardware should be as good or better - that must be software, and software's fixable, hopefully.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] metadan:
TMobile UK seem to have confirmed that its coming next month :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ironman666:
I'm currently using HTC Hero, but thinking of getting the SGS.

The GUI is a big turn off for me. But like on the Hero, i'm using Launcherpro from the Market. And i'm hoping this would also work on this phone.

Have anyone testet if it works on SGS?

See no reason why it shouldnt

http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-fede-launcher-Ezxp.aspx
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Cooki3s:
Running launcherpro here on the SGS, works fine. You can still use the samsung notification bar functions like enabling wifi/bluetooth and setting ringer volume and brightness while using it. Combined with the fancy widget, it looks very nice.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ironman666:
Came in buckets. thnx is what i want to hear :D

Phone is now purchased online :D:D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] LadFromWales85:
The Desire and Galaxy S have the same amount of RAM, though I believe, not 100%, that the Galaxy S kernel is lacking High Mem support, which if it's anything like the Nexus prior to gaining the support, means it only has access to around 190MB of RAM. The HTC kernel has High Mem support iirc, which bumps accessable ram to 390MB or so.

The fact that the Galaxy S comes out of the box with flac support and wifi tether negates my major reasons for really needing root...but having root and switching between roms more times than I shower is all part of the fun!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] J-Hop2o6:
meaning? where is the rest of the RAM being used at (if your claim is right)?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BigWorldJust:
So the verdict is the SGS is better than the HTC Desire, basically..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] danielherrero:
Hi

I own both phones and the conclusion is ready. Galaxy I9000 is much better than nexus or desire. Very fast, sped, screen, games, internal storage, sound.. Is my point of view as developer for android :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] billu:
Flash question

I am slightly confused about the flash support for the 2 phones. If you read GSM arena review, they say Galaxy S doesn't have any, other than the youtube videos through a dedicated youtube player. HTC's own website says the Desire comes with flash support. They are both running Android 2.1.

What exactly does the stock Desire have in terms of flash, some version of flash lite? If so can't the Galaxy S be upgraded to the same level through installing an application?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] saldawop:
Interested in Galaxy...or Desire

Currently running an iPhone 3GS . Was tempted(briefly) by the iPhone 4 , but not enough of an upgrade as far as Im concerned.

I must admit to loving my 3GS.OK the UI may be boring,but it does what its meant to do good enough.

Had never read anything about the Galaxy s until last night.I didnt even know Samsung made an Android phone!It does look really nice though.The screen looks great.

I have owned Samsung phones in the past, few years back now.And was always disappointed with volume.Is the Galaxy loud?If I leave the phone in my coat pocket downstairs am I going to struggle to hear it ring?(Not talking miles away here).

Also, the 3GS does feel like a quality bit of kit in the hand.Looks as good now as it did when I bought it 12 months ago.The build quality of the Samsung worries me slightly(from what I have read about it)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Cooki3s:
I always thought this was something comparable to 64bit OSes, you just can't go above a certain amount (around 3.5gb, but for android 256mb) since the os doesnt support it. I guess it's a bit different with linux, but the comparison remains the same.

There was a line in the 2.2 features description on developer.android.com before, saying "HIMEM support, enabling access to more than 256mb of ram on devices", but I can't seem to be able to find it now.

Edit: http: //developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html see platform highlights

Desire has Flash lite 4, it's good enough to see some movies and some content like banners, but things like games and high quality/bandwidth movies are very sluggish.

Dunno if it can be ported that easily to the SGS, I think the browser needs to support it aswell, but not sure there.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pinoypower:
camera photos comparison

can anyone post a photo(s) taken by these handsets (same object if possible)? will be upgrading tomorrow, and i feel these 2 handsets are pretty even for what i am after, the camera (photo & video) will be the deciding factor.... can anyone post pleeaaasssssseee??? i have less than 24 hours to decide! :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Leifer:
I compared both as well, the only thing on the Desire that I really liked way better was the optical trackball. Coming from a WinMo HTC touch with d-pad, I miss the ability to easily scroll through text while typing. I am slowly getting used to the navigation arrows in swipe, but no comparison to a trackball.

In the end the better screen and graphics capability pushed me to the SGS. GPS accuracy is not really an issue while driving, just takes longer to lock.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
Car navigation next to impossible to get a lock especially if you car windows are tinted.

I put my galaxy on windshield running test gps program. Drive around for ten minutes and still no lock. Not worth comparing to dedicated gps. Outside is fine, but inside the car is a different matter.

Sent from galaxy s. JG4 + oneclick lag fix version 2.3
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gkrishn:
You have tinted the front wind shield too? Normally gps device is kept below that glass right?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] snapper.fishes:
I suspect that Desire has more custom roms. Can anyone confirm this? HTC already has a large android developer base after all.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] K0v4L:
So, tinted car window affecting satellite gps signal? This is something new. Lmao.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Vogie:
Galaxy S i900 is much beter than Desire

4" Screen with Super AMOLED is enof ;) (amazing quality)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Seifer1975:
I dun think the tinted windscreen will affect the GPS unless it's totally opaque. Mine is also tinted and I get a lockon in less than 20s everytime.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kcharng:
Yes, of course.

The test is not scientific or anything but easily repeatable.

Turn on GPS test program with in car charger, leave it on the dash board, drive around for awhile and see if you can get a lock is as simple as it gets.

Be a bit open minded, not all car films are the same. If you lived in hot countries like Thailand and love your car interior and your health, most cars will be treated with special heat/UV resistance film like the one I am using:

http://www.v-kool.com/

I am not a scientist, but I had been using SiRF Star III bluetooth GPS with my window mobile device for years before moving to Galaxy S. I always have problem getting a lock unless I place the BT GPS behind the rear view mirror where the windshiled are not treated with film.

I stand by my answer. I could get a lock with my dedicated GPS navigator inside my car, but not with Galaxy S.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mrlynch:
I was also stuck between the Desire and SGS when my renewal was due last week.

I tried both phones out side by side and there were 2 things that won me over:

1) I had a G1 previously and I was worried about moving from a full keyboard to an onscreen keyboard. The Desire and the much hyped Sense was ok but I made way too many mistakes. However the SGS was a different story - Swype completely won me over, the phone is better than the Desire on this point alone.

2) The screen - wow - nothing comes close!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MisterMonitor:
Galaxy S or desire

Hello,

Im choosing phone from Galaxy S and HTC Desire. I like Galaxy S more, but :

1. GPS problems

2. LAg

3. Slow OS. Lags on incoming calls, music freezes, when you turning between aplications and etc.

Is there enough custom stuff to resolve theese problems ? And why a lot of people are saying that Desire is better ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jam3sjam3s:
Lol, this question can't be easier.

Galaxy S is much much better.

You get better screen - bigger, newer technology - Super AMOLED, the problems with PenTile which exists on Desire are fixed here, and Gorilla glass.

You get better CPU and much, much better GPU.

You get Bluetooth 3.0, HD video recording at 30 fps, not crappy like on Desire, DivX/XviD sertification, DLNA, better battery, more storage, better HSUPA, front camera and less SAR.

What you get with Desire over Galaxy? Single LED flash.

There are plenty of fixes for GPS. They are not presented in newer ROMs and you can always use the Epic 4G fix.

There are plenty of fixes for lag too. supercurio's method is the best for now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MisterMonitor:
So why other people ar saying that HTC desire is better?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rocketpaul:
because most of them have it, within a few weeks/months the desire hd will be out and they will have out of date phones.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jam3sjam3s:
Because they already own Desire. They regret not waiting a bit, 'coz they could have bought Galaxy S for the same price.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BronzedDroid:
Just for the record there is no 100% functioning GPS-fix per today 03.09.2010. Some fixes seem to work for some people, but there isn't one fix that works for everybody, so I would choose desire if GPS is important.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
if you can wait, get the Desire HD

otherwise if you need a phone right away, get the Galaxy S
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Toss3:
Isn't the desire hd basically just a HD2 running android? I'd still get the Galaxy S over the desire HD any day of the week.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
What's the appeal of the desire? 720p video and 4.3" screen? 8MP camera means nothing until we actually see the images it produces and it's using a processor that is nearly a year old.

I think it's another over-hyped HTC device. I was a big fan of the N1 when it launched, I thought the incredible was kind of a step forward but a small evolution, I was highly unimpressed by the Evo, with all its mindshare, besides the screen and 4G (I later came to hate the screen due to the fps and colors, plus the effect on battery life).

At this point, I'd be more interested in a G2 than a HTC Desire.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
...exactly. But I don't think the HD2 can do 720p but that's actually just a guess.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
personally, i'll not buy another other phone if they don't come with SAMOLED screems

the difference is HUGE!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MisterMonitor:
You had a both phones ? Which one is better ? Which one you enjoyed most ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
i replied back to the PM you sent me
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MisterMonitor:
Those not my minds, just from my country forum :

1. If the samsung will have ROM's so maybe it will be good phone. For now there is no creating ROM's for Galaxy S .

2. ITs GPU is very good, but useless, just shorts battery lifetime. And good for games(personally i am not interested in games)

3. The rapidity of programs and apps is slower .

4. Stock ROM is ****, and no custom ROM's for it .

5. Its good on a paper but not in a practical use.

6. Even with 2.2froyo and fixes it wont be better than desire.

7. If XDA will realease something for galaxy s maybe there is a hope for Galaxy S to be a good phone.

8. you can not adjust CPU to use not su much battery

9. The screen is only good in max brightnes but with it the galaxy S battery will get lower and lower very fast.

10. This is not popular phone so XDA will not make ROMs for it.

11. Very low chances to get 3.0 on Galaxy S, and bigger for Desire, if not by HTC, so geeks will hack from other phone and adjust for Desire.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Aaron8282:
Few weeks ago I was in the same dilemma. I chose Galaxy S for various reasons.

-Super AMOLED 4 inch screen

-Wide range of video format support.(I want to drop my TV series/ movies after I download them. I can do that just before I leave my home. No problem. I dont like converting to mp4. I know it doesn't take much time.)

-Lightweight. (People complaint about cheap feel. I felt that way when I wasn't an owner yet. But now I come to appreciate the weight. I put it in my pocket most of the time and It doesn't feel like I have a phone with me.)

Things I don't quite like.

- Weak battery life. I have my brightness set to 0% so at standby/idle pretty much drain a 1% per hour? During my first week of ownership i had my brightness on auto and it just suck up all the juices!

- Lag does exist but I did not experience crazy lag prior to rooting and lagfix. Maybe a slight 2 secs delay. Pretty acceptable. After lagfix it's a lot smoother for me.

-GPS problem. I don't use the GPS so I'm not affected. :)

-Design kinda look like iphone which suck. I prefer N1 or desire looks. :o

I hope this is helpful.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] riz157:
Having Owned desire and currently using sgs, personally I prefer the sgs for several reasons as follows: superior Screen and size, better screen resolution, far superior video player, brilliant graphics, louder speaker, better camera, internal memory.

things I hate about the sgs and desire is better at, design(cheap imitation of Iphone), no flash, gps not accurate, UI touchwiz, no custom roms, kies, no trackball.

I personally would wait for desire hd before making up your mind, had I known at time of sgs launch desire hd was launching in october I probably would not have bought sgs especially had I known about lag and gps issue.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jam3sjam3s:
If you are about to wait for Desire HD, just buy HD2 and run Android port on it.

SGS is superior to Desire HD in almost everything (excluding camera)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MisterMonitor:
So Desire is better than Galaxy S ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lockpick:
I got the desire for my wife and sgs for me, so I can play with both (and do so daily)

I much prefer the sgs and think it is far superior, though I think anyone would be happy with either.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] belayson:
I don't understand, are you not reading the comments? most people here are supporting the galaxy s over the desire and are very clear in doing so and others are saying maybe you should wait till the desire hd comes out to make up your mind. I personally would just go for the sgs over the desire and the desire hd because the only real difference between the two is design, screen size and camera, and htc doesn't make very good cameras anyways, so unless that extra (battery wasting) screen size is absolutely necessary, just go for the sgs. Please don't just ask again which one is better and actually ask constructive questions next time, because its really just irritating and looks like you're not paying attention to the comments.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lasitha85:
I have the both phones. Galaxy s is the winner for me. Only downside is the outlook and feel of the galaxy s. It has bit plastyky look which i don't like.. Desires outer look is amazing... If you are some one who's want your phone to look nice i mean outer looks go for the desire.. Else galaxy s is the best...