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[Galaxy S I9000 General] sh1ng0:
I also have both phone, first I bought desire for my wife after knowing the fact that SGS is known to have lag issue. however, after using it for few days, noticed that the battery is draining very fast (need to charged 2 times a day to get through the day), and also the speaker on desire is terrible. For those who think the LED flash on the camera is an advantage over SGS, THINK AGAIN, because from my experience the LED is way too bright to take self potrait picture. On Quadrant I get about 669 (Eclair 2.1) after I upgraded to FROYO 2.2, I get about 1190.

After some painful experience with the desire finally decided to trade my desire with SGS. When I first use SGS, I have noticed the lagginess and decided to root and get the one click lag fix and guess what, my battery have greatly improved and can easily score 2140 on quadrant. Speaker on SGS is also much much better as compared to desire, camera although without the LED flash has better software in my opinion. Just waiting for Froyo to start rolling in for SGS.

In conclusion, get SGS and live no regrets at least for this moment until the newer phone start replacing it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MisterMonitor:
I heard that Desire's speaker ar not very good (sometimes you cant hear when someone is calling for you). What's about that ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dutchdude23:
Ive got both phones,and the samsung is imo the best of the two.

Even with 2.1 and the desire on froyo i found the galaxy the best.

I like to have a iphone like Internet experience,and the samsung is the only phone who gives me that to be honest.

Scrolling,pinch to zoom etc are as smooth as on the iphone,and the desire is that not.

Galaxy ftw.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Maddmatt:
In the end it comes down to personal choice. You need to look at the differences and decide what matters to you.

Personally I love the SGS. As a media phone its brilliant with great sound quality and an amazing screen.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ravi84m:
Stop trolling

OP, this is the fifth clone thread that you've started in one week asking the same question.

either you're a troll or a really thick person.

please stop making new threads.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MisterMonitor:
ravi84m,

I see that you had both phones. Which one do you like most ?

one man said me to not buy samsung because :

He is slow,laggy, buggy OS, no custom ROMs, mods, apps, and have GPS problems.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] grovenet:
Haha .. that made me laugh! :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cantIntoCode:
Galaxy S without a doubt. Yeah it may have it's problems most so do most things these days. But the super fast processor and 4" Super AMOLED screen is nothing short of amazing.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mobilifishi3:
I never thought i'd actually see phone trolls. What is the world coming to? They're phones lol!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MisterMonitor:
yea but phones now can much more than a calling function man
[Galaxy S I9000 General] saphirrot:
my cousin got a Desire and i got a Galaxy...

man, that desire is ugly, and very heavy and his battery sucks too. the Galaxy is pretty much faster, has an nicer LED screen and the battery is much stronger....

GALAXY !!!! <3
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mramonks:
I'd probably say the same. I have a galaxy s and my bro has the desire. The only thing that he wins on is the camera flash and froyo. Other than that the galaxy wins hands down for me.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MisterMonitor:
I read that you can feel the Super Amoled effect just only on high brightness. So if you make a high screen brightness it will use a lot of battery.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] slowatsch:
That thread made me laugh, same Thread in the Desire Section and you get the oppisite result.

I think HTC scores on "because it's htc" and well... it's not Samsung, because Samsung is normaly horrible on the software side. I wonder how u can screw up such a nice phone (hardware wise) so it lags... I've chosen the Desire because it's HTC, and I really really like Sense UI.... but yeah hard to explain :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sunwee:
Poll: Will you dump the Galaxy for Desire HD?

We all have had our fun with Galaxy. When we first saw Galaxy it was love at first sight, and why not. She's gorgeous, has a bright smile, fantastic body. We were quickly enamoured, but soon we discovered some dark secrets. Despite having some of the best gene's around, she's clumsy and she stutters. And she has a poor sense of direction...oftentimes leading men astray...

But now, another beauty appears, her name's Desire HD. She vies for our attention, she doesn't promises to be better than Galaxy in everything, but she promises to be better where it matters. "I had better upbringing because I came from well-known parents", she claims.

So now we face a dilemma...stay with the the beauty with defects(which may yet be cured), or dump her for the beauty which promises better??.....

:D

ok...sorry for being a tad dramatic. but just wondering if anyone is seriously considering switching over to Desire HD when it becomes available.

some facts/fiction i glean from surfing the Desire HD forum http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=755:-

1) 2nd gen snapdragon, 45nm process (like hummingbird). some guys claims it to be at least 20% faster than 1st gen...so that probably makes it par with hummingbird. Check out the benchmarks some guy did with a dev phone. quite impressive but bear in mind it's running 2.2

2) built in gpu is a major upgrade from 1st gen but the theoretical numbers still lag galaxy's power vr. neocore scores 56fps apparently...so that's pretty close to galaxy numbers.

3) more ram!!! this should bloody help with any lag, potential or otherwise. otoh, internal storage only 1.5gb (boo!)

4) multi-touch issues seem fixed from 1st gen desire (only 2 points). some guy posted a video which seem to indicate support for at least 4.

5) slightly taller than galaxy and a bit heavier too, due to it's metal body. but to those who sees the galaxy as an iphone3 clone, that's good news :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
I might if they put in SAMOLED display
[Galaxy S I9000 General] INeedYourHelp:
I don't have the income to buy a new phone every 3 months, so no.

If i had to pick between the desire hd and sgs, I would pick the desire hd.

But I already have the sgs, so I will not be getting the desire hd.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dcoales:
I will definitely take a look. A colleague at work is about to get a new phone so he may well plump for one of these. I think he's going to wait until mid October though when his current contract runs out which is a shame as I'm not good at waiting :-)

The main benefits that I saw are

much better support for cut & paste (still can't believe that I can't cut and paste from received mails in the galaxy s mail application and that text selection elsewhere is so clumsy - this is my single biggest gripe with the phone - the HTC solution looks very much like the iphone solution with press and hold to bring up the left and right markers which can then be moved independently to mark the selection boundaries),

slightly bigger screen which is always nice

pre-caching maps for navigation (although I'm a bit concerned when they say turn by turn instructions is a "premium" service in their locations app with no hint as to what that means in terms of cost)

You can also highlight words in the browser and then look them up in the dictionary. Wasn't an issue for me when I bought the Galaxy S but since then I've restarted french lessons so reading a french website with the ability to pick a word and have it translated would be great.

My overall impression is that the bundled apps in the Sense UI suite are just more polished e.g. web browser, mail client, ereader, maps.

In the end though the improvements are only marginal in terms of their impact on my day to day use of the phone. I'm still in love with the galaxy s and so probably won't switch. If only Sammy would build a better email client and make text selection easier elsewhere.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
Desire HD is essentially an Evo 4G, but international and not 4G, from all previous reports I've read. Evo 4G has plenty of issues, I'd need to know all of them were cured before assuming the grass is greener on the other side.

Known Evo 4G issues:

Limited colors

30fps cap

Hardware defects such as (screen popping, button cracking - sorry can't remember which, maybe home button, and it might not actually be a button might be something like a USB input)

These are just the top 3 complaints, I'm not trying to flame so I won't go into more depth. Just a buyer beware, and some who aren't completely satisfied with the SGS might have wished they had the same before getting into the SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alovell83:
If I wanted a bigger screen I'd make a bigger jump to the Streak (which I actually wanted before the SGS was announced), 4.0" is great and better than 4.3 w/o SAMOLED...5" is in the eye of the beholder.

Pre-chaching is great, that's why I use Brut maps. I'd like to see Google implement this in their native code.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zorxd:
The Desire HD will be a good competitor to the Galaxy S. The Desire HD might be a little bit better on some points (more RAM!), but I don't think this is enough to be considered an upgrade.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] riz157:
I think I probably will but would have to sell SGS first and I have uprade coming up in Oct. In my experience HTC do things better then samsung other then video playback. Dissappointed only 1.5 internal memory(boo!), impressed with camera, video recording, HTC sense UI and definetly will have better development support which is a massive incentive.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rocketpaul:
no samoled, no sale. I cant downgrade to tft now i have stepped up.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Maddmatt:
Same. The Desire HD may be better in some areas but the SGS has it's own advantages. I think the choice between them comes down to personal preference.

I have my complaints about the SGS, but I don't see a phone which I would rather have right now. Although if Samsung can't get their act together when it comes to the software side, I doubt I'll buy another Samsung phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] leomak:
second that
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DARKKRAKEN:
Na.. the screen is superior quality on the SGS plus i think the battery life will suck on the HD as it's bad enough on the Desire and the HD has a even bigger screen.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mammenj:
no way, galaxy s all the way, especially on galaxy forum
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tupique:
No way... After fixing all the issues for Galaxy S as well as Kies, I can now say that SGS is truly super. iPhone clone? Nope. SGS is better. Can't wait for Froyo now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Roy Ngan:
Things I'm concerning

1.no SWYPE is mentioned (I found that I can't type without SWYPE now :p)

2. No Super AMOLED, might be an issue to read the screen under direct sun light.

3. 1250 mAh battery, can it support the 4 inch display with that smaller battery?

Sense looks like a better GUI compare with TouchWiz. Heard about the good Exchange integration on Sense. Sad to say, Exchange integration is still one of the weakest link in SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
1250 mAh !! that must be a joke, that Desire HD is going to be out of power before i finish my breakfast. (assuming phone unplugged when wake up alarms rings)

LOL :D

every morning i eat and read the news/emails/stock on my SGS during breakfast and it gets down to like 90% from 100%

with that little battery on the HTC Desire HD, i doubt it will make it out of the house without a extension cord LMAO :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] matty___:
Are we still taking about the same phone? Because lot it is still un fixed
[Galaxy S I9000 General] JuWa:
No way. All the new htc devices looks ugly to my eyes. And this has been pretty good phone to me, running Froyo now with lag fix. Can't ask much more at the moment... :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] X-GoD:
geez, i cant buy such an expensive phone very few weeks. Sticking to SGS. I love it. SO beautiful, and fast. will wait atleast a year before I get new phone, so that the jump will be at least twice as good as SGS is now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] decepticon:
I plan on keeping my SGS until there are dual cores at the very least. With a 1Ghz CPU with video acceleration, 720p playback, front facing camera, SAMOLED, 5MP camera and 720p recording 16GB on board with SD expansion it's all I could ask for in the foreseeable future.

The current hardware is more than acceptable for upgrades until Jello or whatever they call it as long as the devs or Samsung keep up the support for it.

Granted I was happy with my Magic and that is as first gen as they come. It took seeing the gorgeous screen in person that sold me on upgrading and I am happy I did.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] NZtechfreak:
I'm sure I'll buy an HD, then I'll sell off whichever one suits my use less. Its sound quality will need to be top notch to unseat the GS though...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
the HD is 200 eur more expensive, so no, not worth it for me.

if i was to buy a phone today and i didnt have a SGS, well.. to be honest i think the 200EUR would still be an issue ;)

still, if the were nearly the same price i guess i'd try a desire. hopefully better camera, certainly faster cpu and better software mainly (the big culprit of the sgs - software sucks :p)

for anyone who is really unhappy with the sgs software however, i'd recommend trying the JM8+voodoo fix. the phone becomes as it should have been when it has been released with that stuff. decent gps (its not perfect or very accurate but it works), no lag, very speedy. I only enjoy the SGS since I installed these. Really!

Still, i'd like froyo and not having to rely on the community to fix basic problems like those
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Seifer1975:
Desire HD no, galaxy tab yes.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Roy Ngan:
Tayutama (lite) version of XWJM8 comes with voodoo 4 beta is the best firmware on SGS I've flashed.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
I'm happy with the galaxy S.. I'd be only more happy if the gps worked more reliably to be suitable for fitness. Remember, the Desire might not have the same problems, it will probably have other problems though. Even the godly Nexus One shipped with many issues (which were exaggerated by some).

The difference is that some people's attitude is worse towards Samsung (so they assume the worst).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Mithent:
Were the Desire HD available from my carrier when I got the Galaxy S, I expect I would have taken the Desire HD instead, partly because of the larger non-PenTile screen (although now having had a Galaxy S, I've mellowed on that and would miss the contrast) and partly because it's HTC with the greater degree of support that implies around here.

However, I'm not going to change my Galaxy S now. I'm not the type to keep buying SIM-free phones every few months, and the Desire HD would seem like a sidegrade in many ways really.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ronalgps:
when the desire hd come out and some user begin to say the problem them i will comparer it with SGS we still dont know what is the capability of this phone

battery,gps,screen thing like that so i prefer to wait lil bit more
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Jim_99:
It was originally a very close toss up for me choosing between the HTC Desire and Samsung Galaxy S. Both were appealing at the time

However, 5 things the Galaxy had swung it for me

4" Super-Amoled screen

Swype

Very lightweight

Super GPU chip

Better battery life (SAMOLED uses less power)

HTC do have the great SenseUI. They need to improve the battery though. There is little point having bells and whistles with no oomph to run it

Galaxy S may have her odd quirks and tantrums, but she still has me at "Hello World!"
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Silverdragondk:
I won't be jumping ship. If it hadn't been for the sgs I would most likely have convinced myself to wait for an LTE enabled phone. They can't be many months away, no?

Regards
[Galaxy S I9000 General] PhoenixFx:
No, because I can't afford it. I'm already locked in to a 2 year contract. But if I knew this was coming before I sighed up, I would have definitely waited. I never felt comfortable getting a Samsung phone, and now I sometimes wish I hadn’t. But over here in Australia I had no other alternative on my preferred operators. Only last week (after a little over a month since I got my SGS) I got to know that desire HD is coming to AU :mad:. Oh well.. its too late for me, now :(.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
i had exactly the same though, and the same things weighted more to the SGS side :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] opensourcefan:
There will always be a better phone right around the corner. Especially now that manufacturers don't need to worry about the OS. Once a year is good enough for me, maybe even that is too soon.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hansonator:
My SGS is very satisfying. It's my first smartphone and it's everything I hoped and more. It has had it's hiccups but they seem to be lessening over the last few days so no need to run back to the store. Besides, I have the insurance from Bell so if I want to exchange it I'll just throw it against the wall and return it XD.

I get an upgrade in two years, we'll see what's here then. Whatever it is I'm sure it will be worth the wait. ;)

Edit: I do hate kies. What a POS! If I only have to use it for firmware updates and it gets them right then fine. Up dating the program itself has been a no go. Last time I tried it downloaded over 1 GB of data and stuck a 100% and kept losing network connection. I just got the latest one I could find from the UK site, link was in another thread on here.

In two years if HTC has better screens then it will be a no brainer.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
I'm going to at least wait for 1280x720 resolutions, and Android v3 at a minimum before making any decisions; I'll also be waiting to see what the next iphone has in store - so at the earliest it'll be July / August time next year before I would consider changing.

Even the Desire HD is at best a sidestep to the SGS, as much as I do think the SGS has fundamental issues.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] icsocket:
I am also happy with my SGS. My only issue is GPS but I rather have GPS issue then reception, battery or screen popup issue. Hopefully, GPS will be fixed with Froyo as the rumour said.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] barakoas:
Yes my SGS annoys me sometimes alot! it does have its own faults.. but i LOVE that phone! theres no way to swap it for this HTC heavy brick.. desire hd really doesnt have any shiny for my eyes.. bigger screen?heh no way with lcd.. quallcom chipset? no thanks im happy that i dont have quallcom.. less integrated memory and more ram? erm.. it doesnt sound useful to me... does it have dlna?not sure.. and sense UI? sorry but i really hate sense!.. hey and what about their joky battery?no comment..

thats all i can say atm.

my 3 cents :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TNStrangelove:
I don't actually have a Galaxy S right now (or any android phone) but I'm choosing between one and the Desire HD.

I've compiled a list of pros for each device. Since you guys have a Galaxy S do you think it's accurate?

Galaxy S Pros:

Slightly Faster (mainly GPU I believe) (though with lag bugs atm but set to be fixed)

FFC

Probably better Sound Quality (the HD SQ is unknown but I have heard the Galaxy S SQ is excellent the HD has a lot to live up to).

Super AMOLED display.

Lighter

Potentialy massive aftermarket community (released on all 4 major carriers in the US and selling incredibly well elsewhere).

Headphone slot on the top

Potential for extended battery is higher with a removeable back

Higher internal Memory.

Available now

Swype Pre-loaded

Gorilla glass screen.

More pocketable (not by a lot, but it is smaller).

Better Video quality (some Desire HD video captures have been uploaded on XDA, general consensus is that they are not that great).

Better the devil you know (whatever issues the Galaxy S may have, we know about most of them since it has been out for a bit, desire HD is unknown).

Desire HD pros

Probably better camera (mexapixels don't mean everything so we can't be sure)

Bigger screen

Regular pixel config not pentile matrix like on SAmoled.

Sense = better than Touchwiz

New sense features on top of this.

Nicer build quality.

Boot time

Made by a more reliable company.

Better GPS (presumably)

Extra Ram

Notification light (I think).

Camera Flash.

Potentially faster Data (14.4 Mbps down 5.76 up)

Pros of Both

Hot-swappable.

Unknowns

Battery life is unknown, SLCD may drain less battery but bigger screen + smaller battery.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cantIntoCode:
Great list. These are the things which draw me too the phone. But I only got my SGS a few weeks ago so looks like I'm sticking.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Something which was missed on the list, is that the Desire HD probably has other serious bugs we aren't aware of yet..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TNStrangelove:
Good point I'm going to put "better the devil you know" under Galaxy S pros.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tomaatislekker:
No way, i'm only switching mine for some dual-core action, orion maybe?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] d3885u:
I guess it would be more wise if I could wait a little bit more until the dual core orion is coming n available on the market

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] riz157:
Okay I would be interested to know if how many of you would swap their sgs with dhd at no extra cost to you? I for one would, no questions asked. Honest answers only please.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
I find it hard to believe that the Desire HD will have as many serious problems as the SGS did / does TBFH! :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TNStrangelove:
I've listed gps and lag, what others are there?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] clubtech:
Every HTC phone I ever owned had bugs...and plenty of it.

So does the sgs .

There is no perfect phone. Period.

If anyone in his right mind think he is going to get a bug free dhd....I suggest getting ready for huge disappointment .

Also keep in mind that dhd will have nand lock and you can't know of it will ever get hacked. Until nand will get unlocked there will no development on it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DSF:
Well, I was owning just HTC phones in the last years. And I've promised myself that I will not buy another HTC again if they continue building cheapy & crappy phones (using the cheaper solution for them, soc, camera, display, etc).

If you chose HTC:

- get crappy video quality even if the camera has 101010 MP. You can see the EVO 4G camera samples (8 MP)

- they use qualcomm CPU & GPU which I simply hate (over hyped snapdragon but crappy gpu performance)

- extremely poor support (costumer care + updates, htc hero users can confirm this)

- no native divx support

Samsung may be worse in software area.. but hardware-wise Samsung products are WAY WAY WAY better than HTC's ones.

Plus, the TouchWiz adds are interesting. I really like how some functions integrates so beautiful in the notification list (eg: when you are in a call, when you are listening to music, connection manager on top, etc)... something you will not see on other Android phones. Plus it comes with native divx playback :) and .. an equalizer for the media player (HTC didn't care too much about this in the past, it seems they started with new products.. thanks to competition).

But I've have to agree.. those lags are ruining the phone. I can't understand why Samsung released such a beast in this conditions..

A?

Did you know that many pieces from HTC phones (and not only from those) are built by Samsung?

BTW, I saw on engadget that SLCD consumes more battery than AMOLED (and consider that AMOLED is an older technology than S-AMOLED) on Desire.

Remember, Samsung > HTC forever. Samsung build chipsets, ram, camera, display, etc. HTC assembles components from different manufacturers ;)

So guys, stick with your SGS. When Desire HD is released research a lot if you want to purchase it..