yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] grymcent:
Hi

Great App. I have tried a few (including OcmMans start menu replacment - similar idea).

Unfortunately I get an error when I use the button farthest on the right of screen.

ERROR:

MMAppLauncher.exe

ArgumentNullException

An error message is available for this exception but cannot be displayed because these messages are optional and are not currently installed on this device. Please install ‘NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm.cab’ for Windows Mobile 5.0 and above or ‘NETCFv35.Messages.EN.cab’ for other platforms. Restart the application to see the message.

at System.IO.Path.Combine(String path1, String path2)

at ?.?(String ?)

at ?.?(String ?)

at ?.?()

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

I tried to install .net3.5 and It said already installed so I upgraded to 3.7 but I still get the same error.

Faria ROM, WM6.5.5

I have a lot of apps, and like another who mentioned the idea I would love to have Folders or other organising method.

keep up the good work

grymcent
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sponge_worthy:
I'm having the same problems getting it to work on Energy ROM on my TP2.

So, I don't get all this hostility against someone trying to make some money. I've purchased a couple of his apps that I really find useful and I use his task manager too. There are many others that post their apps here that wind up being commercial. Big deal. If you don't like it, then don't buy it. I can't fault someone for trying to support himself a little.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] colossus_r:
@ maximus...

Testing your app i have a suggestion to make.

Sinse its good to autostart the app from a link in \Windows\Startup folder then

probably its a good idea to put a switch like /quite so we can start the app without displaying the application window.

@sponge_worthy ..

What problem you have with NRG roms??? Its working fine in Blackstone
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sponge_worthy:
The app looks like it loads, but with no files in it. Then I get the an error. Just like the report in post #82.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ffutz:
Sponge_worthy see post106
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
hmm really? this is never happen to anyone before as tap and hold only triggers tap-and-hold event. I'll wait to see if anyone else experience this. what device are you using?

Can you check to see if a userdata.xml is created in the application installed directory? Mind sharing it?

This is strange. I guess that it might has to do with worker threads fighting to run and modify some variables. If this is the case, I've fixed it already. I will release Test Version 3 shortly.

Currently when the app auto start with device, it should start minimized already.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Currently this is what have added to the app:

1. The app now fully disable and replace windows start menu. No need to use StartButton.exe, ameba, or additional tweaks. This works for both Wm 6.5 and 6.5.x.

2. Fixed worker threads trying to run and cause unexpected errors.

I will upload Test Version 3 shortly. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NRGZ28:
What method did you use to kill the native WM start menu ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vbrsekhar:
hi there - Extremely thankful to the great application you have Created. I have installed it on my omnia I900 and it is all good until I tried to launch the application from last but one tab (application search). The whole application is dying each time I reach that tab. Same error - Argument Null exception error. Not sure whats happening. :( Despirately waiting for the version 3.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
The start menu reads the 4 files:

Start_Menu_Global_widthxheight.cpr

Start_Menu_Global_heightxwidth.cpr

Start_Menu_Grid_sameasabove.cpr

If these 4 files are empty, Start menu won't start. On my HD2 it saves me around 15-20 mb of ram. Not a big deal as the device always have 250+ mb of free ram anyways.

This method works for both 6.5 and 6.5.x. I haven't tried 6.1 yet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
For those who experienced bug, please report the following:

1. Device type

2. ROM / OS Version

3. Bug description.

This would help me to pint point where to look for it :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NRGZ28:
Hmm that's the same method I used. I just copy a blank file over those files. If the user requests an uninstallation, I just delete the blank *.cpr's and the ones in the ROM take their place after a reboot. I've also noticed the same amount (maybe slightly less...) of RAM is saved if the skinning of the start menu is taken away completely, by deleting the whole hklm\security\shell\startinfo key :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Awesome, waiting for V3

Hi,

Great work that disabling the start menu has worked out (can't wait to test).

Are there coming more improvements/new features?

My suggestions:

- Close (minimize) the app after starting an application.

- When starting the program (again) always start in the All Programs (instead of where you leaved it). It's annoying to press back 3 times when i was browsing in a sub-sub-subfolder.

- Option to hide the 5 buttons on the bottom. Personally I don't use the recent, favorite, run, settings options much since I've an organized start-menu with many folders. Could we hide them to have more space? (disable/enable from menu or reactable?)

- Option to start the program in an folder (like: "\Program Files\MMAppLauncher\MMAppLauncher.exe" -\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\).

Then it will be awesome to place shortcuts on the today screen (manila)

- Landscape support? When i slide my keyboard open (touch pro 2 user) the program turns out very well. But I can only see 4 links and must scroll allot. Also the bottom menu show's an empty place on the right bottom (you'll see what's behind it).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sv0911:
I attached the xml to this post.. The xmlfile 0kb looks useless to me....

I tried to add some favorites and so far i did not make softreset

the favorites are there.. and useable..!!

Checked again and have made a softreset and all favorites are gone..

The xml the same.....

Testing it on Omnia i8000 WM 6.5.3 build 23128

Greetings

sv0911
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bh77a:
This program is shaping up nicely. Will have no problem paying for - hopefully a license can be purchased the the Maximus Mobile site as well as WM Marketplace, though?!

One thing that I have noticed is that the program is a bit hard on RAM. It uses 5-6 MB itself and the gwes.exe process increases about the same. I don't suppose there is a way around this except to run fewer programs and therefore have fewer icons, right?

My setup:

Windows Mobile 6.1 (Stock)

HTC Touch Pro
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] grymcent:
*BUMP* especially for Landscape Support (I'm a Touch Pro2 User as well)

grymcent
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
This is indeed a very strange problem. Anyone else using Omnia i8000 with similar ROM experience this problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Test Version 3 available

Test version 3 is now available. Hope it fixes most problems :o

Now the app disabled start menu completely and override start menu setting under preferences requires a soft reset to take effect.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Landscape should already be supported.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
will test V3

Thanks for the new version, will play with it this weekend :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] firetiger:
Is it possible to implement auto resizing of the icons? 4 icons take up a row fully without any spaces in between.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dyun_14:
Very nice app.. thanks for this.. :)

will there be any possibility that the buttons below (home, recent, favorites, etc..) can be hidden? As I dont use them much often.

And the settings folder can be added to list of programs?

Overall great app. I was able to save a lot of RAM after disabling the start menu..

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sv0911:
Hi Maximus.Mobile,

Version 3 works very smooth and fast on Omnia i8000 wm 6.5.3..!

Windows start button works also perfect and the app starts with booting minimized..!

For me the only issue is still that i can not add favorites and also the

"recent" still stay empty after playing a while with it...

In Vers. 2 i could add the favorites and they disapeared only

after softreset.. but now on Vers. 3 when i add favorites, they

will not appear at all... No difference before or after a softreset..

Btw.. Will there be in a futurerelease maybe a option to change

the look of the 5 icons in the bootomline ?

Anyway a fantastic app..!!!!! :cool:

Greetings

sv0911
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djsolidsnake86:
on i8000 the scroll is a little too fast

i would like a option for remove the grey square from the icons

the settings should be the second icon from the left :)

when i try to open the wm task manager or mmtaskmanager , mmapplauncher is opened :S (is also opened when i press every button except end call or call buttons)

and another little bug, that i have sometimes also with mmtaskmanager: at the bottom at the right i see the icon of resco keyboard in a grey square

i have a 23689 rom

ps. a little good thing can be to combine applauncher and taskmanager for have a single app that have all two
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] firetiger:
would suggest slowing down the scrolling speed and to allow the option to change icon size.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ghamedy:
multi lang plz
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sirkula:
how do I hide this app.from showing up on Resco Task Manager list..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] riotman:
Hey I tried this app on my neotouch.and if I try to override the startt menu it overrides the hardware buttons as well. every time ipush the buttoI your app appears. With out start menu override, This doesn't happen
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] grymcent:
Fantastic Test Version 3.

Works smoothly with no errors or major issues - brilliant! I love having 75Mb free

When I open the Keyboard on my TP2 and the Menu shifts to Landscape the icons spread out an awful lot.

in portrait I get upto 16 icons in landscape I get 4 and 4 halves.

How do you get Favourites to work. Recent registers my recent choices, but I get nothing in Favourites.

grymcent
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wardh:
This app really is amazing! You are a great programmer! How do you feel about doing a lite version?

Here's my idea:

-Remove the "All Programs" bar

-Remove the "Button bar" (favorites, settings...)

+Just make it look like the original wm6.5 start menu but with 4 icons in straight rows.

Here's my reason for it, I like my phone clean. The "bars" makes the phone look a little "cluttered" (to my eyes). I mean no disrespect, it's just a humble question. :)

BTW I like the new scrolling speeeed. :D

Thanks for all your winmo programs!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigdd15:
I'm still getting an exception error when opening settings tab in beta 3

As I said on posts before, beta version 1 works fine

I'm using KS20 WM6.5.5 build 23127
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mindphaser2k9:
The same for me on Samsung i900. Now it's even worse because phone hangs after this exception (in Test Version 2 I could just restart app).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Thinner:
отличная программа, лучше чем стандартное меню пуск

функционал даже на beta тесте отличная.

great program, better than the standard Start menu

functional even in the beta test is excellent.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pupakota:
is it needed for program itself, or just configurator?

second question:

why? you are searching for betatesters of incoming paid soft here?

----

My opinion about this software after quick-check:

+fast,

+nice,

+"run"(if it works with arguments too),

-no fullscreen with such BIG icons = fail,

-ugly gfx(i mean these icon "containers" mainly),

- no external gfx, or gfx lib(zero modding potential, reshack is not working here),

-just one viewstyle, and zero ways for affecting view(big icons + text only),

-"ok" is NOT closing this app, it's quite bad idea(unless someone likes clutter in mem). Additionally no cacheing of menu start contents(quickmenu handles this perfectly). Big delay while reading whole start menu contents(on cold launch). I can imagine intention of making this app resident here, but imho, it is just BAD idea.

It could be good app. There's some potential here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Thunderer64:
Bata test version 3 - is getting better - installed nicley - no erroes and works well. Saved about 20Mb of memory when start menu replaced :)

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
Beta 3 not working on my Omnia i900L.

It does not start up when rebooting, a message pops up telling that MMLauncher cannot be launched because a critical component is missing. Same message comes up for smartresident.

When launched manually it takes some time to load and then when going through the tabs suddendly it freezes and then an exeption error comes up and have to quit. Sometimes it just freezes at starting up.

Will try to uninstall and hope it goes back to the WM start menu.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] smithisize:
So, does anyone know if there is a way to make this work fluently with Arto's start menu remover? Because, as far as I can tell, gwes.exe is still loading the default Windows Start Menu in the background, eventhough all 'Start' commands still pull up MMAppLauncher.

Ideas?

Regards

Smith
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
It shouldnt load because the start menu files are emptied of data, and so the start menu cannot load, according to Maximus.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mindphaser2k9:
Standard Start Menu is doing the same AFAIK. But MMAppLauncher is a replacement for it, and it's faster and has less memory consuption overall. So that's makes sense and not a bad idea.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Thank you!!!!

Thank you all for providing your feedbacks and suggestions. Here is what I think are important to mention:

1. For those who have problem with apps don't stick on Recent and/or can't add apps to Favorite, could you please verify that a userdata.xml file is created in the app installed directory? If so is it empty or has data in it? Try to delete the file and run the app, to see if it fixes the problem.

2. For those who have problem when pressing a device button also brings up MMAL, what ROM are you running? is it 6.5 or 6.5.x?

3. To add an app to favorite, click-and-hold on an app in All Program Panel, it will bring up other menus related to the app.

4. For those who encounter Exception related to MMGetAppletInfo, you might have an invalid Control Panel item in the Windows folder, mainly *.cpl files. In the next version i will try to catch this exception and move on to next item.

5. For those who have questions regards why this app will expire on 10/15/2010, please read back on page 13-15. This issue is already adjusted and I will not talk about it again.

6. When start menu files are empty, it should not load hence some people reports extra free RAM on start up.

Hope that I answered everyone questions. If I missed anyone, please feel free to remind me :o

I really want to fix number 1 and 2 above as they are considered to be major bugs. Those who experience it, please let me know what ROM you are using ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sv0911:
Hi again,

big thanks for the suggestion to delete the userdata.xml

I addet some items to favorites after deleting the file and

also checked with the "recent" option and it worked perfectly..!!

After softreset the favorites and also the "recent" still working..!!!

Just perfect..!!!

Using it on: Omnia i8000 -- Rom from shadowangel" fr. modaco

WM 6.5.3 Build 23128 from July, 1st 2010 -- Samsung Firmware: JF5

Here also the link: http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000-omnia-ii-gsm-rom-discussion/313931/rom-21-09-10-my-ultra-lites/#

Great work Maximus.Mobile,

everything working smooth and just fine..!!!

Greetings

sv0911
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jmart518:
First off, nicely done, keep up the great work! Beta 3 is working excellent!

Bugs:

-Since the new version gets rid of the start menu, if you close MMApplauncher, you no longer have a start menu. Not sure of a good solution to fix this, other than making it harder to close/exit.

Couple things that would be nice to see in the future:

-Give view options (ie, list view, icon only, text only, etc.) I am a big fan of list view, I think it has a real clean look.

-Make the program "skin-able"

-Option to remove the five buttons at the bottom (or make it retractable) it takes up a lot of valuable room.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] poyensa:
great app i am testing v3 in mt HD2 WM6.5.3 (build 23568) since this morning and is working fine, just some problems when i kill MMAL with taskmng -but no problem when i close the app via exit, open WM start menu without problems. The rest is ok: changing icons, choose favs, recents, settings, saving aprox 30MB ram, CHT 2.0.

I will try test in my wife's HTC mega WM6.5

Just as sugestions for future versions i would add a link for hometab as existing in WM start menu, also the posibility of having a background picture and change color of the icons' text, and the posibility of changing the icons for home, fav, recents, etc.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
This app replaces a system process, closing it improperly will cause device to be unstable. Also, if you choose to Override Start Menu and want to switch back to original WM Start Menu, you need to uncheck the Override Start Menu checkbox under preferences and soft reset your device. This will return the device to the original state. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] deckoff:
Almost perfect now.

Bugs:

1) Cannot add app to favourtes(some apps???). Press and hold, select add to favs, but no happiness ;)

2) I cannot delete app icons added by the ROM (I want to remove Opera 9.7 icon, for I have installed Opera 10) Not a great bug though...

3) +1 (once again)for skinning or at least changing the bottom 5 icons. Have you seen iContact skins - simple and effective solution for changing skins... ;)

Bugs applicable to my 6.5.3 WM ROM only, with sense 2.1 diam100.

4) On my stock WWE 6.5 ROM app starts slow:( . And will not trigger from start button, only from software key :(

( I have not uninstalled the previous version of the app before installing the new version, so that might be a cause for the problem as well)

Otherwise - great app. Waiting for final release :) This is the way it should have been done - not the " dude, where is my app ? " way, we got now :):):)

6 out of 5 stars :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] preston74:
i have this problem. MMAppluncher it intergrade with L and R hardbuttons. my device its xperia 1, WM 6.5.3 build 28237, sense 2018 and CHT 2.0.

found problems so far:

1. Lock button doesn't work.

2. CHT 2.0 wm settings link doesn't work.

thanks for great app. waiting for final version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] deckoff:
Well, I cannot trigger the app from the hardware button only, everything work fine (HD2 stock rom)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pupakota:
Well, you probably never heard about startbutton app then.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] riotman:
My neotouch has the button problem when start menu replacement is active. a furtherr bug is that lock screen button doesnt work . im running on 6.5.x and the latest s2u2.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Hammerfest:
I am starting to like this more and more...

HOWEVER, I still cannot chose the "scale" for the start menu, its too big IMHO, and I HATE seeing half icon's!

I would like to be able to "scale" the size, or have it set to where its like a 5x5 4x4 and so on setup! (Would literally buy the paid program if only it COULD SCALE)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] grymcent:
Great App.

Got everything working now. Nice!

Using HTC Touch Pro 2, with Faria ROM WM6.5.5.

I have it overriding the original start menu. It worked off my start button and on-screen button. But I like Quickmenu for some stuff So I have Keyboard Changer modify my start button and screen button to start Quickmenu on one click or MMApp on 2 click or long press.

All works beautifully and so much free Memory left - awesome.

My one and only issue is when I shift to Landscape the icon layout messes up and spreads out massively.

Is there any xml cpl (like in /backup) file I can edit and test with to fix this?

grymcent
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Thunderer64:
Beta v3

Running well on my phone, just a couple of issues/points

1) if i install an app i have to Soft Restart before it shows up in MMAppLauncher

2) when I soft restart i lose the icons in "recent"

3) if is exit the App, i have ni functionalityy assigned to the "Windows - Start menu" Button/Icon and haver to lauch MMApp via "File Explorer" to regain the functionality

Otherwise a briliant little App and much better than having to trawl the "Start Menu"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Can you provide a screenshot of the problem? :p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
For those who have problem with Lock button doesn't do anything, it seems to me that you already have another app/mod that override the original lock screen. As the Lock button simply invokes the original lock screen.

How to fix this?

I don't know, you might want to confirm with the creator of the app/mod you've installed to see if it removes the original lock screen. :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Start hard key

This is one tough cookie to crack as the hard key is vary between devices.

Those who have the hard key problem, could you please provide information under here:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys

reports those 40Cx sub-key (x is number 1-8) with Flags value 1.

Windows version 6.5 or 6.5.x

I might have a fix for this already, but I just want to be sure. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] steveman29:
I want to report that only the lock button doesn't work probably because of cookies home tab 2.0 installed. I have artemis v33 rom installed. Everything else works just fine. It is a great program and saves memory. Is there a plan to add Greek language?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Moschino02:
Great Work

Again would love option to totally replace 6.5 start menu completely to this!

How long to final version??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] grymcent:
I, Like many, use S2U2, and the lock button fails to work as S2U2 takes over a lot of control but not all.

It also doesn't seem to work with CHT Homescreen Lockscreen.

I moved to S2U2 to save memory and have a slicker smoother interface, so I would probably like MMAppLauncher to work.

Could you make the button open Long Press End Key instead, as I set that up to lock screen and it works for S2U2 or CHT?

other than that nice ap, am loving it's smoothness and memory save. - Just need to skin it next (then I can make the background even Blacker!)

grymcent
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] riotman:
My neotouch has the value 1 in 40c1, the rest differs. windows version 6.5.x
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NRGZ28:
That older startbutton.exe application, with the open source, designed to replace the start button on 6.5 also works great on 6.5.X. I use it in my ROMs to launch an external app when the windows hard button is pressed and it works just fine for all 13 devices I cook for. Maybe you shoudl look at the source for it...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] boy8boy:
thanks,but my RAM will lost
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hoactaithien:
the greate app!

Hi author!

Thank you very much for your greate application!

I love it but it still has some proble, i hope you will fix in the final version.

1. when i install a new app, the icon of new app don't appear in MMapplauncher until i make a soft reset. please make it auto refresh.

2. Please make it harder to exit!

3. I think name of app should be set center alignment.

4. icon of 5 tab should be made nicer.

Sorry for my bad english.