yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate General] mobius911:
Stationary it's fine and gets a pretty fast lock.

Car navigation is poor. I was getting better results in Cognition 2.1.5. Positioning is jumping around, putting me a block away about 25% of the time, getting various sizes of the blue "circle of trust" about 50% of the time. It freezes occaisonally but maybe less than in some of my previously used ROMs. I've tried all the usual setting adjustments and they haven't helped.

The GPS nav capability on the Captivate in prior ROMs has been good enough for me to declare it satisfactory. I'd say this version isn't- yet. I'm confident we'll get it back to at least what it was, but it will take some more tweaking.
[Captivate General] gordec:
Just wondering if anyone is able to get reliable GPS locks in airplane mode. I am beginning to question whether I should switch to Xperia X10. I use GPS quite a bit and don't see why I need to get another GPS when the Cappy should have a working one.

I do love everything else about the Cappy. Hate to go to an outdated system but having everything working as described is kind of nice.
[Captivate General] Dungeon47:
In my testing and experience it is much better, but still not as it ideally should be. I get nice, fast locks in Maps, but GPS test apps are still confused. Perhaps the whole benchmark vs practice concept, but this case seems to a little outside of that realm.
[Captivate General] Cezar`:
I was able to get GPS lock to around 10 sats only after deactivating the "Use wireless network" option.

However, I had no nav app so i cant say how it tracks.. I am back to 2.1 now, waiting until 2.2 wont be so laggy
[Captivate General] stan.s:
This is interesting, as I keep thinking of switching to a Galaxy S because SE's so slow about updating to 2.1 (Maybe November?) and 2.2 which is a requirement for the latest Gmail and GDocs may not come until Spring 2011 if ever.

However, GPS is extraordinary on the X10. I live on the side of a hill and I can get a lock in 3 seconds,starting with 7/7 and then 8/8 sats by 30 seconds (every option turned on). Lattitude, Navigation, Maps, etc all work wonderfully.

WiFi and GPS are the two most 'additional' features for me on a phone. I have a bit of an issue with SE's Wifi as it's only working when the phone's awake and if the screen blanks, it switches to 3G. Leaves you tethered to a plug so you can set the screen to stay on when plugged in.
[Captivate General] gordec:
I just realized that I use GPS more than I expected. I think 2.1 without multitouch is ok for me. I am still having daily random shutdowns though mine is limited to unplugging from AC only. I am still waiting for something to happen to Cappy cause I still like it. :(
[Captivate General] Athailias:
I have an RMA phone that I updated OTA to JH7 and yesterday i had to drive out of state and about 20 minutes before I left I updated to Froyo 2.2 stock and my GPS worked perfectly the whole way there and back. Granted it was only about two hours of total drive time ( I am really close to the state border), but it never showed me off the path it set for me and when I passed the spot I was suppsed to go to, it showed me drive past it. So I have as stock a setup as possible and my GPS worked perfectly for me. I cant tell you how many sattelites I have or how many seconds it took to lock etc., but real world road test was great. i will use it tonight on my way to and from work and maybe repost now that I have had it loaded for a day.
[Captivate General] tbong777:
I never saw 10 Stas until Froyo update. This phone is not worse than my N97 using Garmin XT. IN fact when I used Google maps it tracked my car pretty well side by side with the Garmin in the car.

I don't think one should expect perfection on any phone GPS. Mine has been accurate to 92 feet according to GPS Test App. In my house I just turned it on and got 5 Sats in less than 20 seconds. Far better than JF6 and JH7..... Then they suddenly disappear LOL and come back..... I still would use a real GPS and do if it were that important to my daily routine.

IF GPS is the primary reason to own a phone then one must find and buy the phone with the best GPS....simple really. Choose a device based on one's priorities for that device. Some people prefer a physical keyboard and will give up other things for it. Same with music and cameras.

People are salivating preordering the Nokia N8 with SYMBIAN3 on it for a 13 MP camera!! Who needs 13 MP on a phone? I set mine to 3.2 and the files are plenty big enough. If I want a virtual zoom I will go to 8MP for cropping. But again its not a great camera nor should it take the place of a stand alone Camera or GPS device.

It's a handy tool but certainly not the end all of those features.
[Captivate General] BigEHokie:
Standing still (inside or outside) works fine for me. I can get a signal and get a lock fairly quickly. Using in an automobile is another story...I can't get a lock at all and while I see 5 or 6 satellites, none of them are in use.
[Captivate General] born_fisherman:
Lock times are still inconsistent. however, the sat db's are not all over the place like they were with Eclair.

my lock times are anywhere from 1 second (in car with phone on dash) to 15 seconds (in my house) - When I do get a lock it is with (on average) 7 sats and 5-15m accuracy - all stock settings.

Anyone notice Skyhook is gone???
[Captivate General] SkitchBeatz:
i can get a lock quickly inside my house with up to 10 sats :-O! but driving around is still the most inconsistent experience I've had with a smartphone. I've only had it for a few hours though.
[Captivate General] galaxyjeff:
There is still a defective gps in the phones including all galaxy s phones. I hope samsung can fix it. My old motorola droid had spot on gps while driving including street view after stopping at your destination.
[Captivate General] stan.s:
Unintentional GPS usage will increase dramatically:

1. My weather widgets. One is a fixed location for where my kid goes to school. One is 'my position' for where I am. (has a controllable update settings from hourly to never.)

2. I was in a computer store and didn't know off the top of my head if the price was good or not. Pulled my phone with Barscanner and it told me two stores nearby that had the same item for $5 less and had the distance to the stores. At another store it said that a different item I wanted was $20 less at B&H. So they are sending GPS info out. (And you probably have to share with Google to get these results.)

3. My kid was going a few hundred mile roadtrip this weekend. While we both think Facebook Places and Lattitude are 'creepy' functions, my wife insisted that Lattitude be turned on for us to monitor them. When I was taking a look at 1am when I thought they were on the road, I added the sat layer cause I couldn't figure out why they were stopped, and still wasn't sure. Texting informed me that they were at a gas station.... (I set my position manually to the townhouse I lived in while working in the UK years ago.)

4. Google's Navigator has an 'alternate route' function which is not friendly for use while actually driving, but works pretty well since you can get traffic layers and you could take a look at the router prior (or during) travel.

Again, since the X10 isn't on 2.1 (yet) there are no Live Wallpapers, and Google's Maps/Nav use the LW functions to draw the weather on the maps.
[Captivate General] mmarquis:
I have been underwhelmed with this Froyo build. I must not be to sensitive to speed because I didn't notice much difference. I admit I didn't run any benchmarks. Lost some Market apps.

As far as GPS performance goes on the Froyo, it seemed on a par with the factory firmware. The JH7 update seemed to have better overall performance based on acquisition time and road behavior. I switched back to JH7 and I will wait for a better Froyo.
[Captivate General] Zysoclaplem:
Do all Samsung phones with GPS have GPS issues? I just can't understand why Sony, HTC, Apple, Motorola and Palm can get it right but Samsung just can't.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
From time to time, Yes. I can think of Samsung BlackJack 2 (fixed in WM 6.1 update) and Epix. But none have this crappy accuracy while driving. Those phones just take long time to get a lock. Once locked, the accuracy is spot on.
[Captivate General] Gr8Danes:
Mine is same as always. Static is ok, but moving is not. It is somewhat close, but shows me off by a street sometimes. :(
[Captivate General] DanDem:
GPS works the same, can't get it lock while driving. accuracy is way off when its locked.

Im afraid this is hardware problem and newer can be fixed.
[Captivate General] ardyer:
Samsung went with a newer gps chip than the rest of them, which still didn't (doesn't?) have the bugs worked out.
[Captivate General] topshelf95:
GPS works perfectly, and I don't mean just getting locks. I put it on my dash and have been driving around a lot for two days and My Tracks is right on. My position does not drift off the road AT ALL anymore. No more being on other streets and otherwise just drifting around all nilly willy. GPS Test shows at least 6 or 7 locked satellites and usually 9 or 10 locked with up to 12 showing. I don't think I would get better performance out of a Garmin or Tom Tom. It does get better sat locks on the dash with a clear view of the sky rather than in the cup holder in the center console however, but that is to be expected with any GPS device. Even so, it was still fully functional in the cupholer. I've been going back to stock with Odin One Click and doing a GSM Master Resets before I flash new Roms and I noticed after doing this the GPS works perfectly, all on stock settings. It seems that when I try any of the "fixes" the GPS goes to crap.

P.S. I'm currently running Cognition 2.2 but I had same excellent results on stock Froyo as well.
[Captivate General] gordec:
I guess the Captivate is just shipped with different versions of the Broadcom BCM4751 GPS chip since there is so much discrepancy in GPS results. I assume after leaked Froyo everyone has the same GPS drivers. If some of us have next to nothing reception and some can lock indoors there must be a hardware issue.

I did however was able to lock and have an usable GPS for few days when I first got the phone. When I had OTA last week, I actually had really nice and accurate usable GPS under MS Based setting in lbstestmode, and supl set to Auto Config.

I just don't know, maybe Sammy should have stuck with an existing GPS chip. Not one that came out in Feb 2010.
[Captivate General] Zysoclaplem:
So this is a hardware issue? Or a Samsung is horrible with drivers issue?

I wonder if Broadcom has anything to do with the drivers for the Samsung Galaxy S phones.
[Captivate General] gordec:
No one knows. Samsung and Broadcom would never say anything. I really want a working GPS. I was on Iphone 3Gs with none working GPS. What does a man have to do to get a working GPS in his phone. :confused:
[Captivate General] skinien:
The latest eclair build had great GPS performance for me. This froyo rom is terrible on my phone. I'm thinking that the had parallel development between the eclair and froyo releases so this leaked froyo rom isn't "optimized" like the latest eclair version.
[Captivate General] mattbeau:
Here is a my tracks for my 10 mile drive around town

Im on froyo cognition 2.2 and jupitor file v006 stock gps settings in lbstest as you can see it is almost completely bug free

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=208605913791985313826.000491c020ce2f472b537 for me this works. .. Dont give up!
[Captivate General] hokiemiata:
Here is my experience:

1. while stationary, I can get a lock. Im using a Geocoaching app from the market and it shows 4-5 sat's if not more, and locks pretty quick. and is relatively accurate.

2. While moving, almost immediately loses lock, even though it sees sat's.

3. To me this behavior renders the GPS useless.

My HTC Aria, and HTC Pure were DEAD on, and I mean perfect. Would lock within 3-4 seconds. Im still within my 30 days, and am seriously considering getting rid of this phone. I dont have confidence in Sammy giving us a REAL fix. I suspect this is a Hardware issue, which cant be fixed short of a replacement.
[Captivate General] erezak:
Working, but still has an extremely long lock time.

I don't get it. People claim to have locks in basements. Not me.
[Captivate General] newter55:
Updated to froyo and while my initial lock time has increased, driving is now functional...the sliding or drifting I used to experience when stopping or turning has reduced dramatically...

Honestly though, if your life depends on an electronic device to tell you how to get where you need to be I would buy something that is designed to do just that.

I have owned many phones and while the captivate is not perfect, call quality is better than my home landline, multi tasking is phenomenal and the screen is amazing.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
I think it is pretty much a hardware issue. Both Samsung and Broadcom are trying very hard to see if they can update the driver to minimize the hardware problem without recall millions of Galaxy S phones. That's why they always say 'Optimize GPS' instead of 'Fix GPS' in official statements.

From what I understand so far, it looks like a RF noise interference problem that could be caused by the bad motherboard design in Samsung part of chip problem in Broadcom part, or both. The inteference is random and varies from handset to handset. That's why you see some don't work at all and some work perfectly (for most part).

The driver in JI6 seems to tame this noise problem a little bit based on the observation that satellite signals are more stable than JF6 or JH7. But I can still see lost locks while driving. Using GPS Test app, I can see that I start with 7 to 11 satellite locks and drop to 2 or 3 satellite locks randomly then back to 7 to 11 locks. This explains my poor navigation results.
[Captivate General] Zysoclaplem:
So where does this leave us? A Google Nav is one of the main reasons i use Android. I guess its back to a Nexus One for me.
[Captivate General] gordec:
Yeah I may go to AT&T tomorrow to check out the Xperia X10. I love the Froyo on Cappy so much but something about the GPS just leaves me unsatisfied. I did take my Body Glove out today, and that has made some difference. I actually got some locks but like most people not reliable in anyway for navigation.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
Doesn't Google Nav require Android 2.0 or later? X10 is still on 1.6 and 2.1 update has been officially delayed again.
[Captivate General] ardyer:
As I have read from various i9000 boards, it is both. Broadcom shipped a faulty driver to Samsung, who then designed a file system around the driver. Supposedly, Broadcom has corrected the driver, and Samsung is in the process of fixing their filesystem to work with it.

Fixing a filesystem is a pretty big undertaking, and apparently Samsung has decided to not bother doing so for a 2.1 release that will be out for a month or two, at best, and official 2.2 release should have the fix. That said, the leaked ROM doesn't appear to have fixed it either.
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
All inidications are that the initial official release of 2.2 won't have the GPS fix either.
[Captivate General] born_fisherman:
What are the indications that 2.2 won't contain the GPS fix?
[Captivate General] tbong777:
Why not wait for a possible recall? If this is a hardware issue Samsung will have to address it or lese fututre sales of all their products. It will become a PR issue.

I get MORE SATS...but they disappear fast as well...LOL. Thankfully I have the always dependable Garmin in my vehicles. On my bike I prefer the phone GPS using ear phones. But I can afford the time to make u Turns lol. since its mostly joy riding to no where where I will likely use it.

I would not give up the MANY great features for a marginal one....
[Captivate General] whirly:
Personally for me this is a huge step up from JH7, i now have between 10-15m accuracy while using google navigation with a 10 second lock time in maps. To me this is a fix, i really couldn't ask for better, though i would love if it was. why don't we all just wait for the official froyo rom before we complain about it? This is just a test build just like JH2 and JH3, both worked pretty good for me but nowhere as good as the official JH7 rom. If the official update of froyo, when it comes out still doesn't solve all these issues for you fellow cappy owners then you can complain!
[Captivate General] foxbat121:
There are some information posted in i9000 forum related to some Samsung Europe employee statements. They said there is a separate team working on GPS fix while other teams working on Froyo.

JI6 has a build date of Sept 21 (IIRC). If there is no GPS fix this late in the game, you're unlikely to see any official ROM to include the change/fix that will be released in middle Oct. which is rumored to be the date of Froyo for EU ROMs and US Captivate as well as Vibrant.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
Here's my ride home from school today:

Pretty good. I will continue to test over the next week to see if the results are temporary.
[Captivate General] Athailias:
I forgot to update two days ago, but basically my phone is working really well on Cognition. I have an RMA phone with jh7 update and then went to stock froyo and my gps was great, since then I flashed back stock with one click and loaded Cognition 2.2 and its still working really well. I dont go off the road like I did with the phone I turned in when I got the RMA. I live out in BFE so every now and then my maps load pretty slowly (i think I am on the edge "E" network), but its working better than it ever has.
[Captivate General] Dave the Knave:
This is my drive to school tonight. It was rainy and very cloudy, but overall, a HUGE improvement. I'd say GPS is fixed.
[Captivate General] erezak:
I think the real important modification is to change the error tolerance to about 100 meters. While it seems counter-productive, it appears to be working, because it allows more satelites into the triangulation process.

My experience with Froyo after performing this modification:

Lock times: 5s - 30s

Accuracy: 5m - 10m
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] lak100:
where can i find desire's offcial themes and wallpapers to have them on my galaxy
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devils tear:
i just installed froydvillain 1.2.1 and now i only have a qwerty keypad for texting, i changed it in settings but this does not work. can anyone help me?
[Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] btdag:
Why wouold you install froyd villain 1.2.1? for a start

get the latest version! wipe and start again.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] LlabTooFeR:
Warning: This should only be used on HTC Desire Z. Using this on G2 could brick your phone.

Here brand new shipped ROM for Desire Z

http://www.multiupload.com/CZWKILY0D5

Enjoy!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nerdo:
awesome dude

Spasiba balshoy :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] K900:
Привет :)

Sent from my HDfied HTC Desire
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] eremeya:
is the ROM English, Russian, or both?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] firebert:
Somebody flash this to your TMOUS G2 and tell me how it is!:D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] M9x3mos:
Give it a try if you have the phone

Worth a shot since the return or factory rom is out
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] M9x3mos:
Also on another quick note is this a ship rom or test. Image in file when run shows test. just interesting is all.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] GodfatherSadri:
I just got my T-mobile G2 today :D.. absolutely love the phone and really want to flash this rom on it. Only worry I have is that the HTC Desire Z has a 2GB rom and the G2 a 4GB.. Would it brick my phone? or maybe limit my internal space to 2GB if I flash this rom?:confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] M9x3mos:
If anything would just limit how much memory is available. Won't brick. If anything going our rom to desire z would brick but didn't
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] LlabTooFeR:
This is shipped Europe Multilang ROM and it's for Desire Z NOT G2, I don't think that you will be able to flash it...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] vegotto:
you'll get a wrong carrier message
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kholk:
Awesome :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] waiting89:
I want to know if anyone has been able to put Z rom aka HTCSense on their G2?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chopperpl:
Me too. I just got Tmo G2, but I'm not ready to brick it yet. I've been messing around jailbroken iphones for some time, and I was always able to restore it in case something went wrong. I'm new to Android rooting, so I don't know what the risks are. It would be great, if someone with experience gave us some feedback, or perhaps try it out. I like sense ui much better than g2...

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] pack:
everyone should be gettin there phones today... someones gonna flash this within 3 seconds of UPS leaving their door
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] waiting89:
I have a bit of experience rooting, I had G1, mytouch, cliq, and now G2, I am trying to help to root it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chopperpl:
..so I just temp rooted my G2, and... Can someone tell me how to flash it with given RUU? I'm getting "ERROR [155} UKNOWN ERROR ROM Utility cannot update..."

I'm new to Android, so please go easy on me.

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheArtiszan:
You can't

10 characters
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] HighDeph:
I have a TMO G2... Where can I download a signed original Desire Z ROM so I can flash my G2 with it?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chopperpl:
All I can say is to be patient, and wait for custom RUUs/ROMs to be built. G2(US), and DZ are pretty same phones, but they have different radios. Flashing baseband to the wrong radio may brick your phone. I guess we need to wait for someone to built custom RUU with DZ operating system, and G2 baseband...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] moolash:
M vs M2

What's the difference between RUU's with an M or M2 and the end?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
I think that number is part of the radio version, because the "M" is part of the radio version anyway (e.g. if you look that up on the phone). I have no idea if there's any significance to it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] schriss:
Will this wipe all my data?

Sent from Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
This is a *really* old ROM though. The European shipped DZ ROM is 1.34.405.5.

If you run the RUU then yes, it'll wipe all your data.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toyface:
Hi

I'm looking to get the default Android Keyboard on DJ Droid however I'm having trouble finding it, all apks that I've tried do not work, so just wondering if there's an apk or something flying around to help me out?

Thanks
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aj74:
History :

Was running Fresh 3.2.00 and all was good.

Updated to 3.3.0.1 without wiping *as was instructed* and lost 4G connectivity

alltogether.

Did some investigation and found my 4G Mac to be hosed so after reading the forums I used the adb method to manually correct the mac address.

The correction was successful but 4G never came back and thanks to the knowledgeable people on this forum I narrowed it down to missing RSA keys.

I did have two nandroid backups from when the 4G was working but restoring either of them didnt solve the problem.

So, the new EVO is here (insurance) and its ready for rooting and I would love to avoid bricking my 4G again.

Please advise me on how to proceed:

1. I already found a thread on how to root the phone with stock 2.2

2. How do I take precautions - how do I backup the rsa keys as to not get into the

same situation again?

The new EVO's stats are the following:

Android version 2.2

Baseband version 2.15.00.07.28

Kernel version 2.6.32.15-g746f4f0

htc-kernel@and18-2 #58

Build number 3.26.651.6 cl218634 release-keys

Software number 3.26.651.6

Browser version Webkit 3.1

PRI : 1.71_003

PRL: 60671

All help and feedback is much appreciated :)