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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Krazy-Killa:
I've been unable to use any of l1qu1d's kernels, as everytime I do, I get this error "Install Module for this Kernel", even after I use the atools and modify the androidinstall.xxx file to install the modules from his kernel, I can never get it to boot into android with these kernel files.

I'm forced to use dzo's froyo/eclair kernels (based on which OS I'm using), which the those kernels are really good anyways, as I have had no problems with them, despite the occasional corrupted /data partition in NAND when either the phone dies (battery) or crashes. :-/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
which update did you use? Also it isn't a kernel problem!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Krazy-Killa:
I used VOGUIMG-320-FROYO-11-29-10.NBH from your repo, had no problems flashing the kernel, installing android onto NAND (system/data), but when I try to boot into android it gives me that error. I've tried several builds of android and all produce the exact same error, including Myn Warm Donut's build.

I used atools to change the kernel to my device (AT&T Tilt Kaiser 100), switched the build to Donut or whichever build I'm installing, configured everything for first install, and even used the install script that is created from atools, and none of it works.

Even used the Mixer to re-package the builds with modules from your kernel, and just ... nothing. Can't quite figure it out to be honest, as I run Linux on my laptop, and have no problems with the kernels from it. lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
Did you use atools 1.0.4? Did you apply this module set?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Krazy-Killa:
I don't recall..... Let me flash the kernel again, and then apply the update to my current froyo build I have installed on the phone.

I'll write back my results once I finish.

*EDIT* New issue, now it's saying the device memory is full when I try to run the update.... I've done a fresh install of Froyo (system/data NAND is formatted), nbh of the flashed kernel was set to the correct parameters.... Now I'm really confused.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Goldfingerz:
Very frustrating so close to getting there: when I try to flash your latest image, it gives me: error 244: invalid model ID,

bull****, I used this tools very often!.....what went wrong ? can anyone confirm this ??

NEw: when I try to flash build 11-27 then flashing is ok. So the kernel is no good????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
Did you change device with atools? All these are not kernel bug, i will stop to answer to them at all!!!!

Open a thread with your problems!!

If you can't install probably you miss some steps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Krazy-Killa:
Just thought I'd post here again letting you know I got the kernel flashed, and finally managed to install the androidupdate.tgz file onto the phone, so it's booting up now, and will see how this kernel works. :)

EDIT: First thing I noticed is my battery is now reporting 9% instead of 34%, so hopefully my battery issues are resolved with this kernel. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
As much as I hate it too l1qu1d a lot of people on here don't even understand what a kernel does. Let know alone how to differentiate a problem that is with the radio,kernel or build they use. Just gotta be a little patient. I have just resorted to short 1 line answers lately for issues like that lol.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Goldfingerz:
Okay, short answers are okay by me, but not if they are based on false assumptions. I worked around the problem of wrong ID (after Clemsyn mailed me his kernel to me) by flashing back to winmo en then again from the bottom up I will be flashing a new kernel after putting the latest android (odex) build in andboot. My battery was low, so I will fire it up when I'm back @home after work. Will update the radio later, first I will try the new kernel with the odexed build.

You decide wether I dont know what I'm doing. You guys do a hell of job here, respect for that, but sometimes I got the impression you are barking up the wrong tree...

Respect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
I only want a

clean

thread with KERNEL problems not whatever dummies problem.

It is very annoing a develop thread with tons of user unrelated problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Thats the cost of being a popular, highly accessed thread. As well as being stickied as the very first one. Lastly people know your name and want your help. Is it right? No but thats what happens lol.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
Create another one, with a catchy title "Having problem ? Looke here first". Ask to sticky it.

There are several devs, experts, people who could help there, and leave this one to more... kernel specific issues. I also would be very happy, if the first page would reflect the lattest version of the kernel (date i mean).

I know my ways with linux, and usually can figure out if the issue is (can be) with the kernel or elsewhere. Yet not everyone knows what is the kernel, what it controls, what it does on android, and it doesn't.

Perhaps we could talk with a admin/mod and ask to stick another thread, and have it apear BEFORE the this one. My 2 cents of course...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
i hope the new kernel thread will be clean...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
Agree. I find it myself dificult to read with all the questions
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
I am not sure if it is Kernel issue or not, but OK, I'll post it here, to leave kernel thread clean :) I've seen such errors in previus vesrion of Android, but never found any reasonable answer for how to fix it...

After some time my phone freezed (once with white screen, second time with normal screen) and I had to reset it... after that I am not able to boot again... it loops within

init: untracked pid XXX exited

Is it init / Scooters CM or kernel behaviour causing this? Perhaps it is some known issue, but I haven't seen it before, nor was able to find help on this forum...

Any Idea on how to fix that?

EDIT: Had to wipe data... then I was able to boot... Perhaps I'll have to make backups after installing any app :) But it would be nice to have it fixed...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lerxst_x:
I got that too the last time I rebooted so that I could install his camera update.

---Scoot CyanogenMod 6.1 (RLS5) all NAND l1qu1d 11-29-2010 NBC
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giannihsd:
same problems after 3 days' of test

With the last kernel version and clemsyn's distro, my phone continue to reset.

I have update the spl to 1.34,

the radio downgrade to 1.70.19.09

use the last two kernels 11-29 and 11-27.

cpu overclock to 500mhz

no overclock cpu

But nothing change, the phone work well if I disable the data connection. When it connect to h3g network android crash and reboot from splash screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Grandelama:
Just out of curiosity, were you charging your phone when it happened?

I would try to downgrade to 1.65.xx, anyway.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] giannihsd:
Original TYTN II Charger
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bil74:
Hello all,

I dont know if its a kernel or release issue, but i have two problems with Android on Kaiser.

1. video playback.

It saw in the forum that some kind of hardware acceleration was made possible because of dzo's work on ver 32 kernel. It does not work for me. I tried rock player which asks which decoding i want to use, hardware or software. Hardware is not working, video playback is not continuous or not working at all.

I have seen some related param in default.txt, hw3d.version, but neither setting worked. Is there a solution for this?

2. is it possible to use sd-card as mass storage drive in case of hared method (sd card install)? I would like transfer files to sd card, but i think it is also not possible to pull out the sd-card while Android running from it. So how transfer files to the sd-card? Do i need to make partitions?

Sorry if it was discussed 1000 times before, but i didnt find the answers searching the forums.

I tried following releases:

Myn's warm donut

Eclair 2.1 for Kaiser/Vogue/Polaris -- polymod 2.1 Delta (kernel 2.6.25)

Incubus26jc's Super Froyo [RLS16] [10/2/10]

Thoughtlesskyle's Not So Super Froyo [RLS17] (2.6.32 kernel ver 10-4-10 and 11-29-10)

Thanks in advance!

bil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] X46X:
2G/3G connection again not working with latest(11-29-10) kernel. Modem write "data already turned on" But connection not working. WiFi works fine..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gazzacbr:
how to change size of data.img and system.img

as title says. i am running froyo on SD on my kaiser and i have data.img and system.img in /andboot as 262,144KB.

these are just empty disk image files?

i have lots of free space on my card, so can i make these 2 files bigger, say 512MB?

are the sizes linked to anything else or will just get used as needed?

also, i want to add some small files (ringtones etc) into the androidinstall.tar. can i just do this by opening with winrar and saving? is there any special format for these tar files when i save?

thanks in advance...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Having been on WM for just a few days, I couldn't take it anymore :)

So, I've just installed the kernel from 4th Oct via NBH. Used atools only to change to Kaiser type and use panel type 3 (although 2 seemed to work almost equal in the past).

Then installed the latest FreshFroyo from 1st Oct.

I let you know if anything bad happens.

BTW

How do you type the pipe symbol | on the hardware keyboard with a Standard Layout? (if you can in the first place)

Thanks guys!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lerxst_x:
Dzo has made some USB changes today… l1q1d, will you create a new release?

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n2rjt:
I don't know how to enter "|" on the hardware keyboard.

I looked in the source code and couldn't find it. Maybe it is not supported.

I would suggest Shift-Left Soft Key, since just Left Soft Key is "\" and we are used to "|" = Shift-"\".

We'll get dzo's USB changes once he is finished. As I understand, it is still in development.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
I just had a hanger, which happened shortly after I'd installed some apps/widgets, but also as battery was running low. So not sure which of the two might have caused it, if either.

But no data/config loss!!! :D

After reboot I tried to get the dmesg as asked for, but battery ran down before I could finish that, as I'd not installed terminal yet.

It's now plugged in the charger and did the auto-start thing.

Let me know if you want a dmesg report of it when it's done charging (checking for current to go close to 0...

Only other thing so far is that GPS took a fair while to lock on (minutes).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Using standard UK wall charger, the charge current reached 1000mA at one point and most of the time is about 970mA.

It feels pretty warm.

Is it supposed to be that?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Unless I'm trying the wrong "Left Soft Key" or have a bad version of terminal, I can't type \ either.

I assume that you mean the key above the IE button with Left Soft Key, which for me is mapped to Lower-Volume as per default, which it also does in the Terminal.

Shift with that is also mapped to Lower-Volume, while FN-Left Soft Key makes:

^[[B

In case it makes any difference, I've got a UK version of the Kaiser from Orange.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ouz:
my battery runs great with your kernel ...thank you :)

Kais130 , not so super froyo , nbh : 4/10/10
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n2rjt:
I meant the left soft key on the slide-out keyboard, not the one on the front.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n2rjt:
Actually I don't know why it didn't work before but it works now.

Shift left-keyboard-softkey = "|"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
Never occurred to me to try those buttons :D

I confirm that THAT left soft key does \ and | on mine as well.

Right_Soft_Key_On_Keyboard however only produces . and :

which is rather pointless for my device as that is already mapped to the dedicated keys for those. Maybe < and > would be good there (for Linux commands at least).

I've also noticed that pressing FN-Left_Soft_Key_On_Keyboard, brings you to the base console screen. The equivalent of pressing Ctrl-Alt-F10 on some Linux distros, where all syslog info is send to. i.e. including the dmesg output!

Pressing FN-Right_Soft_Key_On_Keyboard gets you back to normal GUI.

Are there any other such "Easter Eggs"?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flinx42:
AAAAHHHHH

I've just lost the Exchange account config!!! :(

Although I'd seen others report this, it hadn't happened to me so far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] elander:
Hello, I´m using the oct-04-10 kernel on my tilt and I noticed that sometimes the keyboard light stays on when closed, I mean it stays on for a long time (actually I don´t know if it ever turns off) which I believe leads to battery draining faster, I wonder, has anybody else experienced this?. thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n2rjt:
I have seen same. Perhaps keypad driver should only turn on backlight when portrait is true. I am trying that: seems to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 79bass:
Hi, I really like the actual state of the "battery level problem", and also the NAND problem fix.

Things are going really fast, is it possible to solve also the "auto switch on" when the phone is put in charge. Is it must be a kernel problem... why the machine switch on when the device is plugged in?

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Aiex Rlder:
does this mean froyo isn't working properly atm?

i was running it and then the yaffs came and now a lot of stuff doesn't work :(

can anyone tell me which radio, NBH and rom work reliably? i don't have time to mess around at the moment and the kaiser is my only real phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zPacKRat:
the yaffs errors were do to issues with the kernel, as it stands now you probably have corrupt files and would benefit from a clean install after upgrading to the linked 10-4 kernel. it seems to work quite well. you will however need to set it up for Kaiser by using "NBH Editor" or better yet "atools" to configure the kernel.

And while the implementation is not 100% it's getting closer every day.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
Kaiser light will be fixed in this week.

I need to know if someone has strange system hangs...

I notice it only when the sim card is inserted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] -Arturo-:
It did froze on me about four times within last 12 hours.

One time it happened when I was browsing the web using opera mini. Another one was while the phone was sleeping I took it out of my pocket and the (white)screen was on, also had to restart. And finally it also froze on me when I was trying to discharge my battery last night I left the phone with full brightness, wifi and bluetooth on and about five minutes later it just froze, also had to restart to bring it back to life.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
Did you have the same problems when the phone hasn't the sim card inserted?

I left the phone for 4 days without the sim card and it hasn't any freeze or problems (using wifi) so it might be a problem on the phone part...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] -Arturo-:
Haven't tried it without the sim card yet. It's my main phone at the moment. Anyways it hasn't frozen for the last 6 hours, will report back if it happens again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Essentially yes, you can open them like a normal archive. Only thing is, winrar opens .tar archives read only. You need to use 7 zip to be able to write to them. As for the image sizes, I believe they are static but I could be wrong.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
you can open t uing atools, put the file in the extracted dir and recompact.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gazzacbr:
@aceoyame: thanks, got a portable copy of 7-Zip so good to go at the office ;-)

doh! just googled again and found... er on some place called xda-developers :-O

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=824154

http://www.jayceooi.com/2010/12/05/...id-data-img-file-size-internal-phone-storage/

looks like TopoResize does the job (where do they get these names?)

just did a quick test and the data.img resize came up with some error, it corrected it, then did a resize.

tried to load android but errors setting up.

loaded again, installed, cleared data, but got 2 new 256mb files :-(

it must be in the install somewhere. back to atools again sometime then :-(

@l1q1d: thanks, this post was open all night while i was checking stuff (not all night)

using above tool thats what i will do
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gazzacbr:
terminal

quickie for unix fans.

using terminal and kaiser. where are the < , > , | (pipe) keys?

i thought i'd finished with the terminal 20 years ago.

with os x and android both on unix this is like going back to the future, its deja vu all over again ;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] elber:
i could not sign in google account and i test my accont username and password in my pc they are working .do you think it is a problem with my android or it is a problem with .nbh file .i use Scoot_CyanogenMod_6.1_RLS5a_All_Languages and last kernel just change it to kaisar.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
open browser and try to surf the net, if you can't the problem is the connection,

if you can probably there is some problem with the installation.

If the problem is connection before repost please take a read to all the thread and probably you'll find the solution. If the problem is the installation, reinstall the system.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tiagoclc:
I've already applied the update from first post, but wifi still down.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gazzacbr:
sorry for bump, anyone?

and ctrl also?????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aceoyame:
Part of why I love android and linux.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
Close hardware keyboard. Press menu, open Toggle Soft Keyboard.

Press ?123 key

Press ALT key

for the CTRL, press D-Pad center. So for Ctrl+c, C^c, Would be Press D-Pad, release D-Pad, press C.

Its like a toggle key, like Caps Lock :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gazzacbr:
ok, thanks for replying but when i press menu, i only get preferences, reset term, email to (what?), and special keys which are 'Ball' commands. no option for soft keyboard. this is using "Terminal Emulator" from the apps menu. maybe there is another terminal app?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
Please update Terminal :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] scottial:
Battery

Android is inusable because eats the battery.

With Froyo on my Kaiser the stand-by is approx. 7h, while with winmo is >30h.

It is normal?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
I flashed my Kaiser yesterday in the morning hours, and since then I didn't charge it...now it's on 33% of battery...[Info: .25 kernel ~ fresh froyo]

which combination did you go?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] samjam:
Well I get around 20 hours on my kaiser, but I turn off GPS and background data transfer and stuff to save battery.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] scottial:
The problem is that I have this performance with ALL disabled.

My rom is CyanogenMod 6.1 Barebones with kernel 2.6.32 + HARET
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Grandelama:
I can go through a whole day without problems, with data always on and gps off. (my battery is original, 3 years old)

maybe it's a problem related to reading the correct battery level.

You could try to change the battery capacity in kernel through atools - advanced settings to the this value:

(your battery mA)* 1.6

for an original battery the value is 2160 = 1350 * 1.6.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] elber:
when i use any Nbh file or any Android i see this in REd Squad :

what is this and when i use NBH file with sys on nand2 and data on nand3 and make install-seh.sh with sys on nand2 and data on nand3 i get this error:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
With Atools, increase system partition. Data as always way to much space left, so the problem must come from system.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
Haret mode eats battery twice...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
Explain please. It makes no sense...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] l1q1d:
Because, read/write on sd is much power expensive than nand and also is slower (depends on class). So the power down is bigger in haret mode (or data/system on sd)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
Ah! So one would assume that Haret is the culprit, when its not.

Even with a NBH, having data on SD would show similar results to a haret and all on sd option,

I was just curious :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] elber:
what is in first pic?block error
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
All NAND have bad blocks. Upon fabrications, they're all tested, and bad blocks marked.

Yaffs (and windows TFAT) read the bad block table and don't use them.

Problem is, you have 2 on that screenshot, on the /system partition location.

If the blocks are bad, the usefull area diminishes, causing that error of 'No Space Left on Device'
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] elber:
how i use sys on NAND 2 and Data on SD P3 and i have no error thanks mate
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] alj0sa:
Proxy settings not active when connected using mobile APN

Hi all,

I 'm running 2.1 on Kaiser and have problem with proxy settings when connected using mobile apn. Settings are valid (I tried same settings on few diferent Android phones and they work on all them), but they are not activated when I connect on particular APN. I tried from terminal to telnet to proxy server and do example request and it work, but browser does not use it. I also downloaded some app from market and it shows me that settiings are activated when connected, but browser does not pick them up

Does anyone have cure for this problem ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] RytisRtz:
Hello,

I cant find any kernel for Kaiser in here: http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.n...25f9329fbd569c17797e09140672fa8ae5c72;hb=HEAD

What I supposed to do?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Krazy-Killa:
Kernels for the VOGUE and POLARIS are the same as with the Kaiser, so downloading a VOGUE kernel is the same as downloading a Kaiser kernel.

Just download the updated VOGUE kernel, and use atools to convert the kernel to your devices specifications. :)

Most everyone here is using the updated kernel from that site, whether they're using a Vogue, Polaris, or a Kaiser. The Kernel is adaptable.