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[Wildfire Android Development] fireplayer:
You see the thing is, danne_jo was never working on this - he did however get it working on his GF's Wildfire. - due to getta probably a beta from someone in the Alpharev team...

But danne_jo does have it working. Plus he is / was in touch w the ppl doing the work... now I believe the situation is the same w Jacob...

I'm just curious to see if this is actually being worked on...and danne_jo had the answer to that. I just asked to an update. For which I'm not about to apologize. I did not do it in an uncourteous way, I did it in an excitable manner.

Now I'm shooting the same question in Jacob's direction - in case you read this thread... would you happen to know any news?
[Wildfire Android Development] ramdroid77:
no update probably means there's no new information.... just wait longer, like we all do. we will get it when it's ready for public release!
[Wildfire Android Development] djdevine2:
Hope we see something soon, even though I'm rooted fine! :)
[Wildfire Android Development] Hellveig:
I'm looking forward to it. Any updates about it?
[Wildfire Android Development] hans3103:
Still no news.....i. think htc is very good securing the new hboot.....ita harder to hack it. Bad for the people who want to door the wildfire
[Wildfire Android Development] beastaki23:
I get it that mtd1 file in /dev/mtd/ folder is the recovery.So propably those using the clockworkmod recovery have a modified mtd1 file which is the clockworkmod recovery and not the android one. can anyone who is using clockworkmod recovery upload his own mtd1 file for me to try using it on my device?
[Wildfire Android Development] vilks:
what does that full root? is it important for me i have already rooted wildfire phone?
[Wildfire Android Development] beastaki23:
ok here is the idea. with the flash_image file we can flash .img to the phone.it works with mtd0 which contains the rom version number as it works with the mtd1 which is the recovery.img .the only problem is that there must be someway of bits check, so it will only allow the exact same size img to be replaced.

So if you grab mtd1 and flash it back there is no prob.

If you grab mtd0, change with hex editor the number, there is also no problem-so there is no check of the img itself.

if you try to flash clockworkmod recovery there will be a proplem, so I believe that since there is no img check, if the recovery and the clockworkmod recovery had the exact same size, it would be ok to replace it since it does not check the file (as I supposed before).So help me to try this.how can anybody resize the recovery.img of clockworkmod?

ps. you can flash recovery with the line

/data/flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img

more details here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=921752
[Wildfire Android Development] xtam:
Nice work.

But HBOOT will stay 1.01.001 ? It touches HBOOT ?

So you are saying that htc wildfire is checking only size and not md5 or crc sum ?

1. http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Unpack,_Edit,_and_Re-Pack_Boot_Images

2. http://jiggawatt.org/badc0de/android/index.html

3. http://androidforums.com/behold-2-all-things-root/56517-extracting-img-files.html

4. http://android.modaco.com/content/a...-view-the-files-inside-the-nandroid-img-file/

Check and report please....
[Wildfire Android Development] beastaki23:
I just installed an enlarged htc recovery, so it does not matter the size unfortunately.What kind of checks it does? Can someone with clockworkmod recovery installed properly upload an mtd1 file to try?
[Wildfire Android Development] Sympnotic:
You're probably doing it the wrong way, .img's are like .zip's, it's the same thing for a recovery.img (which is basicly what should be on the recovery partition) : there's files in it, and the recovery itself.

Adding "00000" won't change a damn thing as it's not the recovery.img that is checked but the recovery binary (/sbin/recovery) itself (I guess??)

Here's a good link for you : http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Unpack,_Edit,_and_Re-Pack_Boot_Images
[Wildfire Android Development] beastaki23:
Can anybody (who propably has clockworkmod installed) tell me or inform me what files should be in the cache in order to load clockworkmod?

tia
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
AlphaRev has nothing to do with rooting newer HBOOT Wildfires, it is for getting S-OFF on ALREADY rooted phones. Stop asking about it, annoy the unrEVOked team instead.
[Wildfire Android Development] yuanvn:
I think We need close this Thread

Beacause no anything new.

We can do anything with Wildfire new's Hboot, any Can't do S-OFF.

So that this thread is not need.:confused:
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
What? This thread is not needed? Judging by your English, perhaps you've simply misunderstood it's meaning... no offence intended. It's just saying that they are working on breaking the HBOOT in our Wildfire, and are probably hinting for help and/or donations, as opposed to people being rude. This is NOT a root tool, many seem to be confused about the difference between ROOT and NANDLOCK. And many of us have rooted Wildfires already, and Eclair Wildfires are still being sold retail.
[Wildfire Android Development] darkstep:
anyone tried this? http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/26/universal-android-rooting-procedure-rage-method/
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
Ok, SERIOUSLY, did you even READ that article? It CLEARLY states that it is not for the Wildfire or any NAND-locked phone! NAND-lock = S-ON. Unrevoked3 is the ONLY way right now to root phones with S-On! Can people please stop bumping this thread with off-topic comments? Serious lack of moderation and etiquette here...

THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT SECTION. NOT A NEOPHYTE SPAMFEST! Jeez..
[Wildfire Android Development] darkstep:
ok im sorry chill dude
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
It's OK, I wasn't talking to you specifically, but mainly the pages-and-pages of complete crap with people complaining about rooting official Froyo and other such nonsense, like people seriously thinking they are getting somewhere on NAND-unlocking their Wildfire, it's like [sarcasm]Hai YEA GUIZE! ALPHAREV TEAM TOTALLY MISSED THAT ONE![/sarcasm]

It's just frustrating, because many people would be subscribed to this thread waiting for GENUINE news. And there are so many threads already that are just loaded with complete junk...

For those who are saying it's taking too long, the new patched HBOOT for S-Off is already in private testing stage, we've all already seen the proof of it - so it's only a matter of time before they iron out the kinks to ensure it doesn't turn your Wildfire into a paperweight. To help with our patience, think of it this way... would you rather an S-On Wildfire or a completely dead Wildfire? :D

When there is something new, you will know. Trust me! There is nothing more exciting for a developer/hacker to announce their news!
[Wildfire Android Development] n!k:
Pardon my ignorance here, but where exactly?

I spend a lot of time on the Wildfire forums, and I have not seen any sign of this to date.
[Wildfire Android Development] xtam:
In private = probably on team unrevoked or alpharev pendrives or in home. They are testing it and finishing, and sooner or later it will be out and availabe for all except people without faith or XTC CLIP BUYERS BETRAYALS :D:D :)
[Wildfire Android Development] beastaki23:
Is it gonna be available for temp-rooted devices too?
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
Jacob (HDCR kernel coder) is running it. There's also a thread somewhere that shows a high-res photo (definitely not doctored) of the HBOOT screen with S-OFF.

Temp. Root hmmm not sure.... I think as long as you can flash stuff then yes.... but don't hold me to that!
[Wildfire Android Development] worich:
is there any possibility to sim unlock your phone if it is s-off? i was loking over some threads about simlock, then went to bootloader to check my simlock status, i found out that my phone was s-off but gives strange errors regarding simlock (rooted with Unrevoked 3.21, currently running openfire rom):

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[Wildfire Android Development] pyroblazer:
how the hell did you manage s-off???
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
Probably with extra hardware, such as the XTC Clip.

EDIT: Wait, probably not, because with extra hardware he wouldn't be asking about SIMLOCK. So.... YEAH, how the hell did you manage S-OFF??? Same HBOOT version as me.
[Wildfire Android Development] pyroblazer:
ya seriously??? eventhough my hboot ver is 80.0007.... guess you could help us...
[Wildfire Android Development] worich:
actually I do not know, i was testing diferent roms with some diferent radios; i think it was while using wildpuzzle...
[Wildfire Android Development] pyroblazer:
how is that possible???? roms dont affect hboot!!!! on top of that i myself use wildpuzzle....
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
*Bullsh!t alarm goes off*

I believe the image is either doctored or he just stole it from somewhere.

Obviously I'm upset that a developer like myself doesn't have access to the HBOOT test patch for my Wildfire, which would make things so much easier for me in bugfixing Froyo for Wildfire (which is dodgy in many areas even on official ROM's), whereas someone with only seven posts has *accidently* somehow NAND-unlocked his without knowing.

Yes it's possible to SIMUNLOCK your phone with S-Off, but... wait,
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
I'm not the one refusing to reveal information and bragging about it, the screenshot was totally unnecessary. Yes my tone was nasty but I feel it was well justified, if I were a moderator I would have not said it and simply banned you for trolling! With that said I am sorry, because you have no idea how painful it is to be a hacker without proper equipment but seeing such power in the hands of someone who appears to have no intention on giving back to the community. Please prove me wrong on that, because I know I am arrogant and foolish lol.
[Wildfire Android Development] worich:
look i really dont know how it hapend...i offer my help here if ther is anything i can help, maybe download some file from the phone to help developer...im not braging s-off; it's not so important to me, i was looking to unlock my phone for free to change operater.

Edit:

Now looking into quick system info it reports my radio version as unknown, but phone works normaly..

here is video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8W_NyLJ-rU
[Wildfire Android Development] xtam:
There is no point in arguing as is in developing ways to root or s off wildfire.

Arguing will not help.

Arguing and lying is only for stupid people.

But constructive conversation is for forum.xda-developers members.

(NO judging who did what)
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
Yes, I am sorry for losing my temper. I would ask more questions about what you did to your wildfire in the past, but as you said you can't remember- and it just doesn't make sense....
[Wildfire Android Development] nhnt11:
@worich

Dude, where did you buy your phone? Are you sure you GOT s-off or is there the chance you had it from stock??? (i know its a slim chance but just speculating)
[Wildfire Android Development] pyroblazer:
hey i know its a noobi question, bt i dont need the same answer.

what is the profit of getting s-off?? and what i mean to ask is what is the benifit of having system read/write access??? will the phone run faster?? will it enhance the development of roms ???

i need a layman's answer...

thnx
[Wildfire Android Development] Ardeloth:
You can do what you like with your phone. Simple as that.

Switch roms, overclock etc. So yes it would also make your phone run faster in a way.
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
Yes, having r/w access will also mean you can use AndGuard (change hosts for adblocking), change fingerprints, remove stock apps (eg in Titanium Backup), and much more while in the actual OS, instead of doing it all manually via ADB in Recovery. Plus it makes hacking/testing much easier for ROM developers, true.
[Wildfire Android Development] ramdroid77:
DroidWall is also among the candidates that doesn't work with current S-ON (rooted) phones because it needs to write configuration files on the system partition.
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
Droidwall works fine for me, tested ok. It uses busybox commands to edit the iptables, which does not need s-off....
[Wildfire Android Development] bluedragon1982:
How did you got S-OFF ??
[Wildfire Android Development] CosmicDan:
What? I never said I had nandlock removed, I was answering the person who was asking about why s-off is such a big deal.
[Wildfire Android Development] ramdroid77:
I had tried it and it didn't work (though no error messages). I didn't really check but assumed the problem was related to S-OFF. But yes, you are right, Droidwall doesn't need S-OFF. It's not writing the rules permanently but re-applying them to the cache after each boot.

So my problem instead was maybe more related to a problem with busybox. In the meanwhile I'm running CM 7 (with proper bb installation) so maybe I will try it again one day.
[Wildfire Android Development] juanchotolas:
Update?

Any news? Checked the website but it doesn't mention an ETA... I'm eager to try this!
[Wildfire Android Development] tehshouter:
Alpharev is working on it but they want to make it so safe as possible thats the reason why its takes a long time to release.
[Wildfire Android Development] nhnt11:
lol
[Wildfire Android Development] tehshouter:
If its not true than tell it to me ???

This is what i heard about it, Im not god o.O
[Wildfire Android Development] nhnt11:
Hey chill, I just found that funny... You may know that Jacob got s-off from alpharev a few months ago (January I think) and I got it a few days ago - AFAIK nothing has changed between his version and mine.
[Wildfire Android Development] tehshouter:
Hehe, i am chill ;)
[Wildfire Android Development] Lloir:
well if AlphaRev is lazy maybe you could just release the one you got given the other day......im willing to risk a brick just to s-off lol
[Wildfire Android Development] nhnt11:
I don't have the exploit that replaces the HBOOT. I only have the HBOOT. sorry.
[Wildfire Android Development] Lloir:
ahhh that sucks :(
[Wildfire Android Development] ieftm:
We are in the final stages for testing Wildfire hboots.

We have added some quite interesting features.. to be revealed shortly.

For now, I need a tester who's willing to provide a linux box with SSH (and root) to his phone, so I can install the current version of the AlphaRev wildfire HBOOT.

Any takers?

irc.freenode.net #alpharev
[Wildfire Android Development] Sympnotic:
Not really up to try, but have a few questions tho:

- if you're doing final tests, wouldn't this be better to "test" the entire process, starting by a single (power-)user applying the exploit himself ? (I knowit could leak if testers arn't trust-able, nonetheless it should be released sooner or later and if this is a brick-party, shame on those who couldn't wait :))

- Could we have more infos about the need for root ? I might be wrong but setting correctly the rule for your device in udev is suffisant and is the only point where it would require root.

edit: and will it be platform dependant or will we have a one click app or a CLI app under windows & mac ?

- Will you plan on documenting the exploit to flash a hboot without S-off and what you did to the said hboot ? I won't have any real use of this but it's always a good thing to study and might be handy one day.

Thanks for the hard work and your reply, I'll wait for the public release
[Wildfire Android Development] -Howard-:
Final stages O.o some people are going to be very happy.
[Wildfire Android Development] alangrig:
I am interested and will be available tomorrow during the business hours. Please pm short instruction.
[Wildfire Android Development] Sympnotic:
You only need to go to irc and provide him a ssh account + root access/privileges (sudo / su ) on a linux shell with your phone plugged in, usb dev mode activated.
[Wildfire Android Development] ieftm:
No. This is the way we've been doing it, and will continue to do so.

I need full access to USB. And no, udev doesn't solve it completely.

No. The exploit is private at this time, not mine to release, and will most likely stay so. The patches done to hboot can be easily divulged by anyone capable of understanding them. They are explained on a higher level on alpharev.nl.
[Wildfire Android Development] hans3103:
You need a rooted device to make it s-off. So I guess many people are waiting for unrevoked more than alpharev I guess..... correct me to an wrong
[Wildfire Android Development] Ouistyty:
Sound promising.

But yes, post before me is pointing a good point.

Does this new realese of Alpharev need full root or soft root is enough?
[Wildfire Android Development] ieftm:
Testing is done.

This made the Wildfire hboot 'final' status for our impending release.

Yes, you will need root. And no, we don't support HBOOT 1.x.

You could however use this HBOOT in conjunction with a Wildfire made radio S-OFF using the clip, to unlock the features we patched in, like fastboot.
[Wildfire Android Development] -Howard-:
Fair enough i could have tested but was at school :p so good work.
[Wildfire Android Development] f0xy:
Well done lads, I use it on desire. Will s-off wildfire as soon as
[Wildfire Android Development] ramdroid77:
Great! Very good news! Actually even better than my April's joke! :D
[Wildfire Android Development] Villis87:
These are great news! :D

So to make it clear for me... I have the 0.80 hboot and i'm rooted with cm7. I suppose that this will work for me, right?

And when is this going to be available? It will be the v.2 of alpharev, right?
[Wildfire Android Development] bpye:
Correct, it will work on any hboot below 1.0 as they are all exploitable. It will work with cm7 and it will be alpharev v.2, i can tell you, it works great.
[Wildfire Android Development] zexcrazy:
So, is that available or not yet?
[Wildfire Android Development] ShyamSasi:
Finally a ray of light ... Hope it comes soon :D
[Wildfire Android Development] ErwinP:
God dammed.

I realy hate myself for applying that $#_€÷|^ OTA update.

Nice work tough, alpharev!
[Wildfire Android Development] kevin2516:
Gay, i just started learning how to use linux a few days ago, but i still don't really know how to use it, oh well, the waiting shall begin now. :D
[Wildfire Android Development] f0xy:
I want to know Linux Kevin it's very useful :)
[Wildfire Android Development] -Howard-:
Linux is ftw you should learn it :) I left windows months ago :) can't wait for the release of this means we can use metamorph
[Wildfire Android Development] StratOS_HTC:
Nice work guys, waiting for a release.
[Wildfire Android Development] bonesy:
It's been 7 months since the first post was edited,Any news on this or a release date?? I know a fair few people who want cyanogenmod but are stuck with the locked bootloader!
[Wildfire Android Development] jim-bo:
Well, if you read the last few pages, you'll see that there is news, and that the wildfire mod has now been finalised, and will definitely make it into v2, which is due out soon now. (no, no dates have been given).

BUT... I'm afraid you've misunderstood what this mod will do, and what phones it is compatible with.

All that it does is toggle an S-ON phone to S-OFF, which essentially means you will be able to mount the system partition read-write while the phone is operating, and not much more than that to most users.

It doesn't help root phones, in fact, I believe it requires an already rooted device, and most of all, it is not compatible with HBOOT 1.0 or above, only with the 0.80 versions that are already rootable with unrevoked, so it won't actually help the people who are stuck with a locked bootloader. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Edit: I should add, it doesn't just make the phone S-OFF, it also flashes a custom patched HBOOT that allows for fastboot access, and maybe a few other things, which makes working with recovery and flashing easier, but still, this has to start from a basis of already being on 0.80 to have the vulnerability they are using to patch the HBOOT and S-OFF flag.
[Wildfire Android Development] xAdaM--:
When support for the HTC Wildfire comes, will it be able to root a Wildfire with the latest HBoot that came with the Android 2.2 Update? (HBoot 1.01 I think?)
[Wildfire Android Development] nhnt11:
since the post right above yours answers your question, I hereby deem you illiterate.
[Wildfire Android Development] Alex_GP:
Duuude, I lol`d so hard!!!

Btw, you owe me a new keyboard... I spilled my tea on this one while laughing.
[Wildfire Android Development] ramdroid77:
illiterate because the 1.01 patch has already been released two weeks ago! :cool:
[Wildfire Android Development] ErwinP:
Now you owe me one as well..
[Wildfire Android Development] jim-bo:
two weeks ago, on the first, this was funny...

Edit: I guess you had to do this today, though, after you said http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12578394&postcount=79
[Wildfire Android Development] shaadd0w:
Then we Wait

Sry but, did the unrevoked team determined a date for the release ?
[Wildfire Android Development] Villis87:
It's alpharev team i think ;)
[Wildfire Android Development] dinodics:
That's right. ALPHAREV ... but the question remains ... .. release date?

Q: The S-OFF help unlock phone from the network that was blocked?
[Wildfire Android Development] f0xy:
No.
[Wildfire Android Development] dinodics:
I wanted to know if after doing the S-OFF AlphaRev can flash the phone with img PC49diag.nbh. XTC (clip) S - OFF allows flash PC49diag.nbh and the phone is unlocked from the network that was blocked ... wrong ???..

sorry for the mistakes of expression, I do not know English. Google helps me a lot with translations.
[Wildfire Android Development] ramdroid77:
you can't root your phone with AlphaRev, how many times do you guys need an anwer? here's five more:

no you can't.

no you can't.

no you can't.

no you can't.

no you can't.
[Wildfire Android Development] dinodics:
As I wrote in previous post I did not mention anything about root, phone is rooted, I HBOOT 0.80. I asked if I could just unlock the phone with flash PC49diag.nbh. Thanks for proper response.

Newtork unlock.
[Wildfire Android Development] ramdroid77:
sorry for misunderstanding... I read somewhere else that people asked if they could downgrade 1.01 with the file you mentioned so I assumed you were trying to do the same....
[Wildfire Android Development] jim-bo:
The answer is "probably yes", though I doubt many people here will be able to be more definite.

Aplharev gives you S-OFF, one of the effects of that is that you can get HBOOT to flash unsigned images. That probabyl means that you could flash an appropriate PC49diag.nbh and network unlock the phone, but I would bet that few, if any, of the people reading this thread have tried it to see.
[Wildfire Android Development] NickHu:
No it doesn't.

It goes like this:

Radio -> HBOOT -> Kernel -> System

SIM lock is stored in Radio, and so is secuflag (S-OFF/S-ON)

Alpharev hack the HBOOT to reject secuflag from the radio, whereas XTC clip unlock the radio via hardware. Alpharev also patch in fastboot commands to HBOOT. Even if you Alpharev S-OFF, you can't touch radio, because it will still check for signatures.
[Wildfire Android Development] dinodics:
Thanks very much for clarification.
[Wildfire Android Development] ziemjak:
We wait 4 months since HTC published official 2.2 Rom for Wildfire and still new HBOOT can't be broken :( Wildfire is one of worst Android phone it coast much expensive but the hardware is poor. LG gt540 or SE X8 is much powerfull and are cheaper. Wildfire without custom Rom and OC kernel suck a lot. I lose all hope to quick solution how to root Wildfire on new HBOOT. I don't buy HTC anymore...