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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Hi guys,

as per topic title, I'm experiencing a monstruous battery drain.

In the last few weeks I devoted a lot of time in understanding how to get more juice, with very good results.

I removed (and noticed developers) every power hungry app I had. I recalibrated my battery.

Suddenly, all of this became futile, because of this 100mA battery drain while phone is in standby, EVEN with everything (wifi, radio, gps, bluetooth, everything) off.

Like the phone itself takes 100mA to just stay in standby.

Now, this is way, way higher than "healthy" (5-8mA from users experience here on xda), and means 5-6% battery lost every 30 minutes. Doing NOTHING.

What I did:

I'm using OpenDesire since 4.0.23 , upgrading to every stable version. Today I'm at 4.0.32

Also, I upgraded the radio to latest version, 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14

and I noticed very good improvements.

Then, I flashed the RIL.

And the battery drain began.

Today, no matter what radio I flash, which revision of OD I revert back... Nothing seems to change, the battery drain stays.

I tried to:

- full total wipe/factory reset, always. Only app installed is CurrentWidget, to measure draining ; NO settings restored with Titanium Backup

- EVERY radio since 32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04 ; flashed by Clockwork Recovery, phone only ; every time I tried the latest radio, I both tried without and with the suggested RIL

- OpenDesire from 4.0.23 to 4.0.32 ; Tried 4.0.23 and 4.0.28 with EVERY radio ; other OD releases tried only with stock radio (32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2) and latest

- Umounted sdcard; reformatted sdcard; different sdcard; no sdcard at all

- restore my nandroid backup, made before all of this, which brings me back to my stock sense days... but with the hipotethic radio mess, and the same battery drain issue.

I don't really know what else to test.

I can't just get rid of this horrible 100mA battery drain.

Anyone has hints, suggestions, solutions ?

As of now, my Desire is ... barely a phone.

Thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swine...:
Flash a RUU and start from fresh?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=695667
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Uhm... if that's the full package, with rom and radio, may be worth the try.

I hope it's doable without Windows. Only linux here...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Oh, great... I'm having issue "waiting for bootloader".

I launch RUU

phone reboots

stops on HTC screen

RUU on PC gives error 171.

Edit:

Appearently, it's very important that the phone is recognized by Windows as "MY HTC" in system resources.

So, I did:

- install HTC Sync. Reboot. Plugged in the phone. This gets installed the necessary drivers.

- DISABLED WINDOWS 7 AUTOMATIC DRIVERS SEARCH. I think this is a windows update thing, don't really remember... I'm a linux guy ^_^

- Reboot phone in bootloader (pressing power while keeping pressing VOL- ) ; then, Windows will come up with an unrecognized device called "Android 1.0"

- Manually installed drivers under c:/programs/HTC Sync/HTC Drivers.

- Started RUU

- phone rebooted. Bad windows sound told me drivers dailed. So I went there... and the "HTC bootloader" driver appeared. Then I manually installed "MY HTC" to that device... and RUU finally started !

Also, I *HAD* to start RUU from normally booted phone. Otherwise, it failed the "minimum 30% charge" check.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
Having the same problem (100 mA drain/hour in standby) ever since I started experimenting with roms/radio etc.

Going back to complete stock hasn't helped me though :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Oh... damn, I just succeeded with starting RUU flash.

Oh, well. Let's see how it goes.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Successfully done...

but the 100mA battery drain in standby is STILL THERE :eek::confused::mad:

I begin to think just flashing 1-2 radios made some mess7damage that can't just be solved with another radio flash...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zHk3R:
SetCPU

Helps my battery time.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
... and I used it myself.

But here I'm talking about the barebone power usage, no cpu spikes, no software installed.

No phone should dry that amount of power by being on total unusage.

SetCPU is awesome, but doesn't help here.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Also trying safe mode (pwr on while pressing menu)

...

7% / 60 minutes.

This means 3-4% / 30 minutes, or 50-60mA / 30 minutes.

Oh, I had WiFi on.

Trying with WiFi off now...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swine...:
Well that's some crazy battery use mate.

I have currently installed:

* OD version .32

* Radio .30_2

I have installed other ROMs before for testing, and I have tested all the radios newer than the 30_2 one. All bar the very latest one 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14, as I have no need for it.

I have Current Widget set to update every 1 min, and not create a log or text file when I test my use.

With the screen off for 1 min, and then turned on, Current Widget shows either 4mA or 5mA, which is my standby power consumption!

After trying what you have with the RUU I don't know what else to suggest, but wish you luck. :D

#Edit# Since taking the phone off charge at 8am, I have lost 6% of battery. But so far today I have only sent one message. :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
... and with WiFi off, it's 3% / 30 minutes. CRAZY.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Thanks mate.

Question: have you ever DOWNGRADED a radio ?

If so, did you take any particular precaution ?

Also,

Just to be sure I tried everything possible, before sending my device to repair (risking many days without it, or even they discover my rooting here and there...)

may I ask you HOW do you flash the radio ?

My procedure:

- basic: I rooted via unrevoked 3.21 - all right with root permissions and got ClockWork recovery installed and working

- I (re)boot in Clockwork

- I go to Install zip from sdcard option

- I choose the radio zip file, all downloaded from the xda thread

- I apply and confirm the radio (file name is NOT update.zip ... is this an issue ?)

- phone starts to work. A progress bar apperars, fills only by 1/10th, 1-2 seconds, then suddenly process is complete and asks to reboot from menu. So I press back, and reboot.

- Phone don't reboot. It just sits 15-20 seconds saying "flashing radio" or something, but showing no progress bar. Then phone reboots. Almost immediately, reboots again

- Phone reboots back to os usable state. radio version is changed in system infos.

If I made something wrong, or something is missing or wrong in my procedure, maybe I can still solve all of this
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
chareos12, as you probably know by now: I got the exact same problem.

Updating/replacing radio roms/normal roms/RIL/RUU etc has nog helped me thus far.

I have one question however, what program do you use to monitor mA usage/hour?

(Nvm, found it, Current Widget, duh.... Mine is at 87mA at the moment....)

Secondly, I will follow this topic closely and help you wherever I can.... Let's fix this!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swine...:
I think I always downgraded when trying the new batch of radios :D But really, yes I have changed version number up and down, and the one I found the best performer was the radio 30_2. But that may only be for me, even though a lot of other users report that it is also good. I did find much higer battery use on the 32.47.00.32U_5.10.05.23 radio, but after returning to 30_2 all was well again.

I would say the way you are doing it would be fine. And no it does not need to be called update.zip. I'm busy right now working, but will check back later if I think of anything extra. ;P
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Exactly, CurrentWidget. That also reports the same mA variations as dmesg, so I take as trustable.

Yeah, let's hope it's fixable !

I fear sooo much repairing centers...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] th3:
I'm no expert but it should be -2mA if in standby with everything off (including the display) and >80mA with display on. >30mA ish drawn is not possible with all hardware off/idle except by the display. That's unless you have the "Android System" bug I had where it consumes 10-30% CPU just resting.

What current discharge reading do you obtain with same everything except display on (black background)?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Consider that right now I'm on the stock Sense...

disabling everything (any sync/background data), wifi off and then airplane mode on, sensor off, gps off, led notifications disabled, display brightness manually on the exact 50%, black background, ONLY widget across the 7 pages is CurrentWidget - which is also the only installed app... + Estrongs file manager ...

175-185mA.

Which is

your normal 80mA + mine sick 100mA ...

as I said before, it is like the bare phone drains 100mA battery for just staying barely alive.

oh,

12 minutes uptime

Android System is accounted for 17 seconds (4636 menu)

but then, going in settings battery infos, I read

CPU total 49s

CPU foregroung 20s

Android system - usage 70%

Display - 22%

weird...

IF it is the bug you are talking about, how could it survive trough 4 OpenDesire releases and a jump back to RUU ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] th3:
The Sense ROM you have is totally default with nothing added except CurrentWidget?

You need to go barebones to figure out what is happening here. The 80-115mA baseline is from many users at 0% brightness on a black background. You need to also log your CPU usage with something like OSMonitor, System Panel or Show CPU Usage to see if Sys, Usr or IO are experiencing abnormal load. In apps like OSMonitor, see the debug errors it is showing you under Messages.

On some ROMs it has been my experience that the cell network, accelerometer and/or touchscreen goes haywire causing large battery drain in idle or use. Consistent network locations and network provider search was a key problem. That made me lose 5-10 hours from my usual battery life. There was no way that I could fix it except changing ROMs and starting from scratch. I reverted back to a clean HTC 2.2 ever since with no such oddities.

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] th3:
Admittedly, the existence of it after the change to stock RUU also had me confused. Providing you did complete wipes, that should have wiped out any soft bugs.

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Totally default, everything wiped twice from Clockwork, right before the RUU + CurrentWidget + EStrongs File manager (which made no differences and only installed to go read CurrentWinget.log)

Trying now the 0% brightness... 170-175mA

I'll install now OSMonitor
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
Chareos12, try Airplane Mode and report back for me please....quite curious what YOUR result is there...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
OSMonitor...

screen on, 5 minutes, notable messages:

a couple "BMA get into normal mode"

a couple "BMA get into sleep mode"

a few [debug]

ALS value: 0xC8, level 3

ALS value: 0x8, level 1

ALS value: 0x82, level 3

ALS value: 0x45, level 2

many updates regarding the battery mA usage, like in dmesg and precise with CurrentWidget

Not considering OSMonitor itself, CPU stays on 0-1% with spikes of "Android System", but never above 15% , never more than 1-2 seconds

Soon I'll pastebin my log
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
All you can read in this thread is, unless stated exception, happening with

Airplane mode ON

WiFi OFF

bluetooth OFF

GPS OFF

Sensors OFF

Brightness 0% manual

LED notifications OFF

every background data, sync OFF (just to avoid unnecessary attempts, even with every radio already off)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
This is the log from OSMonitor:

http://pastebin.com/b24kU9jg

Situation:

Stock HTC RUU

All possible things disabled

Power off -> Boot -> Leave phone alone to black screen for 3-4 minutes

to the end, of course, there will be some "noise" (me going to open OSMonitor, save log.

Do you spot any problem ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] philJ:
1.Tried to flash the newest Radio without the RIL

2.Full wipe and Install OD .32

3.Install NO Backups!

4.Make Configs to get to Homescreen ... reboot.

5.Charge to 100% ... download spareparts @ market ...

6.remove usb

7.shutdown

8.plug usb

9.wait 1-2 hours (to be safe)

10.boot to recovery

11.wipe bat stats

12.boot phone

Dont Install anything ... No Setcpu, No taskmanager ...

Perhaps you can Try another Radio ...

Have my best Results with OD .30 @ 17_2 ... 0,5-0,6% Drain per hour.

Now i have .32 with newest Radio ... 1% or more ... have to test (but its faster).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
My battery should be fine and well calibrated (charges up to 4170mV, phone graciously at 2%)

Anyway, it seems we're somewhat to a dead end with diagnostics.

My hope was for a bad radio flash, fixable maybe with a specific/special procedure or radio image...

I'll try unrevoked+various flashes again for tonight. If problem still occours, it's time to call HTC. Meanwhile, humbly suggest to DESTROY latest radio from this forum... :p
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
A plot of the data Current Widget has collected.

As you can see: Airplane Mode DOES have a positive effect on my battery drain.....
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Flashing time.

Trying to jump from 32.41.00 to 32.48.00 radios, version by version.

to see if device turns back sane again.

10 flashes later, still nothing.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] philJ:
Install OD .32 with full wipe and Charge to 100%, Calibrate and let Currentwidget track your batt and apps till your batt is empty and then post the Logfile.

Only Tasks can drain your batt we have to find out what is going wrong ... current widget is a great tool, try it!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harvestdroid:
I'm having the same issue as u, plug out charger 1 hour ago..now the battery is on 85%..

Very annoying issue, make me wanna sell this phone..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomurbanowicz:
How did You plot the data? In Excel?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
question:

could this be somehow related to amoled/slcd thing ?

Was the latest radio (available here on xda) specific for slcd ?

(I've an amoled)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
Yeah, Excel for Mac.

Btw, just found out that at work my phone uses 5-7 mA, while at home it's ~100mA....?????
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
I have an amoled-screen as well.

Funny thing is that I've also tried RADIO-roms from the time HTC didn't even produce SLCD screens on the Desire...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
uhm... no/different WiFi ?

I'm trying to flash again radio and rom and see if NEVER EVER enabling wifi gets rid of the problem
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomurbanowicz:
I have 2 HTC: AMOLED and SLCD with ROM AuraxTSense v7.6.1, RADIO 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14. Drain is in normaly.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
No... while at home with 3G on, it uses 100mA with the screen off.

At work with 3G on, it uses <10mA with screen off....

This sh*t gest weirder by the minute.... :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Uhm... today, airplane mode on, I stay on 81mA.

Latest radio + Latest OD, no ril.

Seems something's moving... ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
Reeaaallly funny stuff going on here.

I'm seeing 8-11mA at my work now, 3G on, GPS on (but not working), screen off.

Seems to be location-based as well.

I would assume that with airplane mode on, location is not important?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Damn. We have to find a meaning to all this.

Trying latest radio + OD .32 + ril again.

I expect to be back at 100mA drain...

EDIT - no, still 80ish mA
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
Would be awesome if some engineer from Google/HTC would come over and help us on our quest!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
... and smithe us for our recklessly flashing&rooting ? :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
somewhat-good news:

Still 80mA "base" drain

bad news:

- The "base" drain not improves if I disable wifi, force 2G and switch off mobile data.

- OpenDesire .32 has VERY HIGH display usage report. Even in standby with display OFF ! This happens even with keys light off. Bug ? Anyway, 80mA drain.

- OpenDesire .23 has NO high display usage report. Still, 80mA... so, even the display usage report is useless.

I'm starting to belive that difference comes with WiFi N

I had to reset my router last night and never enabled it again.

But still... how could this be of any relevance ? Most of my tests are made with WiFi straight disabled on phone...

How reliable are these settings on OpenDesire again ? WiFi, display...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nakebod:
I'm going to follow this thread closely.

Even with the stock rom and radio, before I rooted my phone, I couldn't have more then like, 10-12 hours on batteries.

I'm still thinking that the official 1.21.405.2 update ****ed up my phone. ..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
hei there :-)

To begin with, you should decide if this thread is talking about your issue.

To do so, I suggest you:

- download CurrentWidget from market. it's free

- set the widget on screen

- remove any other widget from any other screen

- disable wifi

- set airplane mode on

- disable gps

- disable automatic screen rotation

- disable LED notifications (if you still are on a Sense based rom)

- disable background data and automatic sync

- reboot

- let go phone in standby.

- wait a couple of minutes

- power screen on, unlock, check CurrentWidget value. If it's 80-110mA ... welcome. Or perhaps I should say "hellcome".

Otherwise, most probably your issue is being specifically covered in the forum.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Question (before I waste an hour or more)

anybody here tried to remove and leave out battery for an hour or more, after this battery drain appeared ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
Never tried it, nope...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Smultie,

would you have a look at your drain - if any - once you're back from work ?

Let's see if this is location sensitive (for me, it's not... I tried today to move a few kilometers far, but same 80mA)

hopefully, you just "triggered" something.

Hopefully, can be replicated :-)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
Oooh, I can quite easily confirm that it's location based on my phone.

Work: 5-8mA

Home: 108+mA

A colleague of mine has the same problem (lives in the same area, Android (HTC Wildfire) and T-Mobile too...)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Uhm... cellular cell related ?

I tried to remove my sim and reboot phone.

... and now I'm back to my 100mA drain... things got worse.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
Trying atm...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nakebod:
@chareos12: Tested quite some stuff already, and so far this is the closest for what I'm experiencing.

I used OpenDesire .32, I'm currently back at my stock (rooted) ROM. The CurrentWidget reported for both ROM's 100+ mA, topping @ 434-355 mA for a couple of minutes. The rest of the values is mostly between 100 and 110.

I asked someone to check, a person who has normal battery life, and he had 3 mA. Without disabling everything which possible uses some power. That's not why I have this phone ;-)

So, more testing.. disabled all the stuff you asked for.

- If I enable airplane mode, my power consumpution after some idling is 1, 2 mAh, thus not the 80 you mentioned.

- After enabling the radio and surfing a little bit (HSDPA), and idling a few minutes, I got 111 mAh.

- Disabled the radio again, 2 mAh.

- Enabled radio, and enabled WIFI directly, and let it idle a few minutes. (I set WIFI to be always on even when the device sleeps). Started with 170 mAh, dropped to 104 mAh the next refresh.

My radio rom with OpenDesire was 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14.

Currently @ 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 (Same as stock, I believe), no improvements.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Couldn't agree more.

Note that I'm not one of those suggesting "disable all, technology comes with a tradeoff". Well, of course it's true... but I don't care until I get rid of this killer battery drain :-)

Here we just try to exclude any possible "noise" in testing; it helped us find that 100mA is - in our case - the very basic battery usage we are being suffering.

Then I fear (well, actually, I'm happy for you mate !) this is not the same issue we are suffering of.

Still, I'm glad you're here to share any good thing may eventually come up
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
Wow, you're also from Nijmegen (me too...). Problems started 1-2 weeks ago for me. Can't get battery usage to normal. Is it location (reception) related?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nakebod:
May I stay if I came with a big surprise? :D

Just changed my SIM to another provider (KPN NL), and guess what?

I currently got 7 mAh. Even with WIFI enabled, brightness full and sync on it is low.

Although I have to add, once you sync some data the battery usage is going up quite fast. Just reached over 400 mAh. And it takes 1 minute to half, and about 2 minutes before it is near 7 mAh again. But that could be normal, using CPU, GPU, data and I don't know what more.

Can't test with mobile data, this SIM doesn't have internet enabled.

At this point I'm thinking of an faulty SIM, mine is kinda old, or a poor mobile network.

In case of T-Mobile NL, the last is absolutely true.

But then.. why so suddenly. Like I mentioned before, I did have some decent battery life, 24 hours without a problem.

Edit @ Smultie: Actually Ewijk, but #care :P
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Never tried to push you away mate, just avoiding you eventually unnecessary and free-time killing tests :-)

So, this thing you say is very interesting !

And I can see it related to location, IF your operator switches to some sort of roaming.

Me personally, I'm using H3G in Italy. Coverage is ugly, particularly in my home. Then my phone switches to TIM (another carrier, they made a deal) in 2G.

Well, I see the same drain on these two carriers.

But could it be SIM related...

perhaps something bad happened to the SIM circuitry wile flashing a radio ?

I'll try another SIM (same carrier) once my gf comes home.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nakebod:
In my case I'm 99.99% sure it didn't start after flashing the radio or custom rom.

Unless the latest official HTC update (2.10.405.2) damaged the radio :?

I rooted only a few days ago, and I'm experiencing this problem for at least 3 weeks now.. But maybe even longer. I currently have a 3 week holiday, so I notice battery drain more then when I'm at work. So... this monday I can check at my work if I still have the same problems.

And there was something else I wanted to say, but I forgot.. :D

Oh right, about the network type.

Default it is WCDMA preferred. If I'm right, we don't use that in Europe/The Netherlands.

If you choose GSM only you only have 2G. Using 7 mAh.

If you choose GSM auto (PRL) you have 2G/3G. Using 100+ mAh.

(Check via *#*#4636#*#* > Phone Information)

Above test results, including previous posts, are all "quick tests", Im not testing every method for hours to see what it does :P Unless I got payed for it :D

Let us know if changing the SIM with the same carrier works for you. If so, I'm ordering a replacement SIM.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Yep.

Unfortunately, I get my nasty drain on both "gsm only" and "gsm auto"...

so I say "basic" drain. It seems not related to any sort of radio type/activity.

Just imagine your car eating 3 liters of gas every minute just to stay barely on.

There it is.