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[G2 and Desire Z General] larryccf:
j0nkatz - big thumbs up for putting the 4G issue to sleep -
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
Yeah, just finished and functioning just fine. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] bone$:
thanks for the teardown... excellent job!
[G2 and Desire Z General] mtl171:
Just couldn't wait to let iFixit do it for us. We applaude you for your noble sacrifice of you beloved G2 to help us solve the mystery of the hinge and 4GB flash chip.
[G2 and Desire Z General] LemurDroid:
hmmm

i was hoping you'd do a full teardown to answer the questions about the lighted trackpad ...

and my own personal question of wtf if that little sensor on the front of the camera they've blended into the black plastic front to the left of the T-Mobile insignia.

It looks like a little FFC but i know thats not possible .. light sensor?
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkadesi:
That's the proximity sensor.... it basically turns off the phone screen when you hold it next to your ear.

put the phone flat on the table, make a call.... and try to put your finger over that thing (without touching the phone)... you'll see what i'm talking about.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fldash:
Running Myn's with King Kernel #9 BFS. Plug phone into computer, it detects the drive, but doesn't detect the HTC Phone portion that allows me to use ADB. I've never had this issue before, was using CM6 with no issues, then briefly went to Caulkins, again no issue.

I've reinstalled HTC Sync, and tried various options on the phone to no avail... Am I missing something?

Edit: It works fine in RA Recovery, gotta be something with the ROM.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgallos1:
it could be a bad version of that rom along with the kernel or a bug in it try factory data wiping and clear davik cache and reflash what you have if the same thing occurs then its a bad rom and the kernel.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fldash:
bleh, no one else seems to be having the issue, my post in the thread went completely unnoticed like it didn't even exist, even by myn... sigh.
[EVO 4G General] rukshmani:
The title of the thread is HTC Supersonic:EVO 4G....If people do not like SENSE, why not we create a seperate thread for them? Sense is HTC thing I think.

Sense comes with 4G....Others do not...No matter how hard they try...

Its okay flame it...I am in 4G area and I want ROMs with 4G. Or name one stable non-sense rom with 4G.
[EVO 4G General] evohack99:
Sense haas nothing to do with 4g

Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
[EVO 4G General] newone757:
what the f is your point?
[EVO 4G General] ms79723:
I don't get it.
[EVO 4G General] bigant262:
Couple things here. You spelled Sense wrong in the first word. And why would you post this in DEVELOPMENT?? Yea, its a Sense phone, but people don't want all the clunk. Slows down the phone a lot compared to AOSP, have you even tried AOSP?
[EVO 4G General] Success100:
+1...3rd graders shouldnt be allowed to post
[EVO 4G General] M@XLOL:
umad? umad?
[EVO 4G General] kellyrx8:
no one forces you to download non-sense roms, its a preference, just like the car you drive, the brand of cereal you eat, the kind of clothing you choose to wear.
[EVO 4G General] rukshmani:
Which AOSP should I try which gives all the ease of SENSE ( Spelled correct I think), with 4G and stability of stock rom? If you can point me to one I would appriciate it.

My point was why not work on making a better SENSE ROM, that windows mobile people used to do.
[EVO 4G General] rukshmani:
Sweety no one forces me to download anything, its just that this sections says its for HTC while it seems like its more for AOSP.
[EVO 4G General] M@XLOL:
ITT: the op has no idea what is going on in the android development section lol
[EVO 4G General] firemedic1343:
Does your mom know you're on the computer this late?

Shouldn't you be doing your grammar and sentence structure homework?
[EVO 4G General] rukshmani:
success100 honey shouldnt should not be "shouldnt" it should be "shouldn't"
[EVO 4G General] ryohei47:
yay grammar police! but really, i still dont get the thread
[EVO 4G General] MSmith1:
How's the battery life on this rom?
[EVO 4G General] Igotsanevo4g:
Pretty bad.
[EVO 4G General] ms79723:
HTC is a corporation that manufactures these phones.

The Evo was made by HTC. The Evo runs Android.

HTC made an interface to place over Android OS (Sense). AOSP is Android OS without the Sense add-on. Both are Android OS.

Now that we cleared that up, the dev forum supports both Sense and AOSP because both use Android OS. What would be the point of two different development forums, one for AOSP and one for Sense? There would be a good reason if it weren't for the fact that in the thread titles you can clearly see AOSP or Sense. Just use control + F.
[EVO 4G General] GANJDROID:
Spotted this beauty on the latest post section on the xda app and I couldn't help myself. This is utterly brilliant. :D

Sent from my HTC Desire
[EVO 4G General] MSmith1:
Oh well. I hate Sesnse anyway.
[EVO 4G General] stanglifemike:
Well I'm not even going to say most of the things that I want to about this thread, but I will say this.............OP: you ask what stable non-Sense ROMs have 4G? I run 2 that I know are stable and have 4G and they are Virus Airborne and Calkulin Evio. AND, they both have Sense features as far as dialer, lockscreen, keyboard, email, etc., just not the Sense launcher. I love using Launcher Pro Plus instead of Sense anyway, but prefer Sense for the other things so these ROMs are perfect for me as they are a mix. Also, these ROMs have .zips so you can make it all AOSP if you want...the choice is yours. So, search the forums for a change, and try out some ROMs before starting a thread ranting about stuff that you dont know about.....peace :D
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eric12341:
since i got my TP2 on 5/17 ive been seeing this message while browsing the web in either internet explorer or opera 9.7 (except worded differently). i have gotten this error on all roms i have flashed whether 6.1 or 6.5. its very annoying because once this message shows up in either browser websites stop functioning properly and i dont know why it even says it because my ram usage is in the 60s or low 70s when it does show up. i am now officially fed up with this error and want to know of a way to get rid of it, i can hardly get anything done on the web because of it and it will happen despite whatever else i have in the background (nothing). any ideas?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] mr.horndoctor:
Could you be out of storage memory not ram memory?

Maybe after you browse for awhile your cache, cookies, and history eat up too much of your storage memory and give you the error. Try lowering your cache settings in Opera or freeing up some storage memory.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] eric12341:
i have about 50mb of storage free so i doubt it would all run out after being on FB or any other site for a couple mins, but ill try the cache thing tho i dont think thats it
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] muggles:
an old thread but my latest problem...

Any clues please guys?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] arrrghhh:
Soft reset (the pin next to the SD slot under batt cover) didn't fix it?

Never heard of this, but I honestly never really ran WinMo much on my RHOD :p.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] Jackos:
There is a memory limit for one process (32MB, unsure). So if you force Opera to load an oversized website such a error could occur.

Although I never had such a problem so this is only my theoretically guess.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robertgibson:
Am I missing something? I can't figure out how to get my G2 to send a regular picture message, It sends and recieves pictures as a slide show for me. Sending a picture from the G2 to a G1, the G1 gets it as a picture message even though it shows up on my phone as a slide show.:confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImSoHungry:
Try sending one from yourself. A bunch of the guys I work worth like to forward nsfw pics around all day and if someone who didn't have a smart phone sent it to me it was a slide show, if someone had a smart phone, etc, I got it the right way.

Sent from my Nextel™ using the XDA app
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robertgibson:
Tried it, sent and recieved as slide show...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arcadia310:
I had this problem on my Vibrant as well. I never found a way to solve it so I just dealt with it.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] miles2912:
It's a bug. Tmobile is very aware of it. There are some 3rd party free apps in the marketplace that will fix the issue.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Menace II Society:
Name of those apps, please?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ddgarcia05:
chompsms, I think. I don't have android right now but I read up on the topic. Here's a link.

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-G2/pictures-in-text-messages/td-p/486978
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sinistersai4d4d:
Yeah. i use handcent. its lightyears better than stock app and has quick reply and quick compose features. ALso no stupid slideshow mode.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PolishDude:
thats what i use
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KarlosTheJackal:
Sorry to bring up a dead topic but just wondering if a fix was ever found? I've flashed a new ROM & its having this problem. :(
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCRic:
I really don't know of any 'fix' for this. Not to mention the fact that the best OS out the can't seem to send a proper mms and not compress it to less than 10kb. No amount of UA spoofing or alternate messaging apps will fix any of this until google addresses the issue. Maybe some one smarter than I can sort through the phones code and find the culprit, then remove it.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gteye:
Ever since setting my UA to Nexusone I have had zero problems with large MMS.

They download at full size, I just received a 665k MMS today.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KarlosTheJackal:
What do you mean by "UA"?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCRic:
Yes, but how about sending? The custom UA doesn't fix that issue, any mms you send will compress to a wicked small file. I've even resized the image to 600Kb and even 300Kb, both were reduced to a measly 6Kb and 8Kb (same with my MT Slide when I used it).

Btw, UA = User Agent.

It's the ID of each model of phone that the network servers use to determine certain features, like mms. When you send an mms it sends messages to the server stating 'message incoming/phone UA' the server then sends back an ok - the message is sent, server sends a receipt.

When a message is sent to you the server sends an invisible text stating 'message waiting/message address/what's your UA ID' the phone then confirms the UA ID. The server then reads the UA and adjusts the message accordingly and says the message is ready, phone then downloads it and sends receipt.

Very long (but quick) process. So yes, changing the UA will help with receiving an mms but the phone, at least in Androids case, is the reason why we can't send a large mms. Since all messaging apps like handcent still rely on the core process used by Android to send messages - there's no way to bypass it completely. You can trick it into sending a 300Kb picture as long as the original size isn't much larger but good luck on 600Kb - 1MB or more, they get downsized to nothing.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] mingkee:
I'd like to see whether it exists and can anybody extract it out and I'll try to install on nexus one to see how it works.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] TFJ4:
It's not on the shipping rom...
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] rUsTyRuSs:
You should be able to pull it from the dumped euro rom if I'm not mistaken.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Smokuevo:
Lol what.no
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] solace.discord:
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-g2-wont-have-free-tethering-may-have-wifi-calling

doesn't come installed yet- from what I've read, it will be included in an OTA
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] bled82:
It is not installed got mine this weekend in austin at the android bbq from the tmobile pr rep
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] vikramdhani:
Wonder if G2 will be support for the wifi application and service ?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] rpmccormick:
Sounds awesome, but no body is discussing price. Do WiFi minutes use your normal minutes, or is there a separate cost (has to be for international), or is (National) WiFi calling completely FREE?

If I can save minutes using WiFi at home and have no additional costs, that would be awesome.

...also, I assume the phone cannot receive calls (from your normal number) over WiFi, can it? It would be even nicer to be able to make and receive calls with the cellular network completely turned off. Imagine the battery life!
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] InGeNeTiCs:
Price will most likely be free like uma. On my wife's bold, wifi calls are free. The cellular radio will not need to be active as that would defeat the purpose. However, the new system doesn't do wifi to cellular hand-off. So if you leave the range of your wifi network, the call is dropped. also, I'm not sure how this is going to pan out, but the system apparently connects to the towers via the internet and the towers connect the call. I'm not sure if this means you need to be in a serviceable area or not, but it seemed rather odd to me.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Aphotix:
In regards to the wifi calling app. The service (ability to make calls over wifi) will be free, making phone calls will deduct from normal minute buckets. T-Mobile states that they have it use your minutes because while it doesn't use a local tower it still goes through their system (ie call gets routed through web to tmobile switch and then is sent through a landline, which of course tmobile still pays the owner for, using @home only cuts the use of the one tower and base station, you still register on the network so you can use your normal # and receive calls. Which brings me to my last point...) you should be able to receive calls just fine.

One thing to keep in mind, wifi signal is degraded more heavily by the way you hold the phone than cell signal, if you download an app that monitors cell and wifi signal, you can see this for yourself. Something to keep in mind if you notice your calls are dropping a lot on wifi or you are missing calls.

In regards to needing to be in a servicable area, the service will work as long as there is wifi. Even in other countries.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] rpmccormick:
But no free min via wifi, even for incoming? Lame and usless unless you have poor voice signal where you are.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Aphotix:
True enough. In the past you could add unlimited calling over wifi for $10 per line or $20 for up to five. This feature was discountinued in 2008, with tmobile claiming only a tiny percentage of consumers used the service and that it would remain fir business customers (albeit at a higher price.)

If enough people request it, maybe tmobile will come out with the feature sooner. If you really want something like that, request it at @tmobile on twitter, ask on facebook, post on the support forums or call customer care. If enough people want it, it will happen.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] hah2110:
Skype????????
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] jasonvieira:
I wonder how this will work on corporate plans.

we have about 150 blackberrys with wifi calling and we have a deal where it does not deduct from our minute pool
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] mattseg:
I really hope it comes out as an OTA.

Not because I'm concerned with wifi calling, I'm concerned with an OTA coming out... one that can help those many times smarter than I get root.

..That said bring it up to tmo at any chance!
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] -FuRBz-:
so let me get this straight, so if i have the unlimited wifi (which i do) then when the wi-fi calling gets here (hopefully soon) then it will NOT be deducted from my minutes bucket right ?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] hah2110:
Use skype........
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] tankmorph:
It will still use your minutes.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Aphotix:
tl;dr

In short, no idea yet

In the billing system your calls from uma phones (and @home phones) get tagged as being a hotspot call (you see this on your paper or net bill with a letter designation.) The free uma calling service relies on the tag to make the calls free. If calls from the wifi calling app get this tag (it should show even without the free calling feature) the the calls will be free from the wifi calling app through the unlimited uma calling feature, otherwise no.

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] pathensley:
no, it won't be deducted from your minutes if you're already grandfathered & paying the monthly fee for unlimited uma/hotspot minutes (that's directly from the tmo techs' wifi calling training doc)
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] bfletcher6147:
apparently the OTA update its coming sooner than we thought. UMA and tethering! http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...brings-native-tethering-and-wifi-calling-uma/
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] hah2110:
Correct, had it yesterday and it is SWEET!
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] fitsnugly:
Would you kindly (hehe) pull the apk for UMA then?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] cromo8:
i second that i too would like to try to put this on my vibrant
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] itsjusttim:
If you get it working, can you let me know... I also would like this on my vibrant
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] bwinger79:
Come on G2ers.....one of you had to receive the OTA. Can someone please pull the UMA apk so we can start porting to other devices?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] cromo8:
were starving out here haha
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] ianandamy:
post it already please/
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] mingkee:
Don't install the application yet.

It doesn't work with my nexus one (stuck on "Enabling...).
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] jdwme:
you were one of the lucky two? I hate you lol j/k
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] notxel21:
Wifi calling apk: http://drop.io/bmtvbvf/asset/wificalling-apk
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] scroop:
Mine too. Install fine, but doesn't get past the "enabling" status.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] rmcsc:
And to think everyone was making fun of you.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] samyvibrantuser:
I downloaded. Will install let you if it works....
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] shibby80:
hell thats what it does with my G2 oh well i will wait for the ota
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] bled82:
posted in error
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] bled82:
Did you get this from the OTA ? If so would you be able to do a system dump or provided the update.zip ?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] bled82:
Yeah kinda of talked my girl into giving it to me , she is awesome !!!:D
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] cromo8:
any new developments? or a fix?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] tr.slate:
here is the build.prop for the mytouch 4g which also has this app factory installed. I got it through DLing from here along with the rom dump.

http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-mytouch/40713-system-dump-leaked-mytouch-4g-rom.html

Is this what we need to get this going?

PS-this is cross posted in the N1 apps forum as well.

*edit-also there is a lib file i believe that needs to be put in the modules folder called kineto_gan.ko, which I have also attached. I can have wifi calling now? Still stuck at enabling for me even with the lib file.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] minotauri:
there is also a libkineto.so file in /system/lib which you didnt post. still cant get it working though. we need to figure out where the config file is for the UNC and SWG addresses are.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] reocej:
I can't believe this app isn't generating more buzz than it is!:confused: This is like the Holy Grail for Android phones!:p Come on people lets get those files and get this working!!!!:rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] minotauri:
i tried but dont really know where to go. took out the lib files from MT4G rom and tried to insmod them into G2 without luck:

i also put them in the appropriate places in /system but the settings in the WIFI calling are blank. Those probably need to be fixed. I played around with the XML prefs file but it didnt do anything either.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] reocej:
I know some people got the ota with this working, has anyone posted the rom or a zip of their filesystem anywhere?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] cromo8:
would really like to see this work
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] drm916:
I am sure Tmobile will eventually push this to the G2.. But I dont want to wait. I cant believe the Comet and the LG cheap ass phones both come with wifi calling and wifi tether and the G2 doesnt. Very Lame.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] minotauri:
i think one big hurdle is the app's lib is locked to use a diff kernel than what we have in our G2. It's locked to use 2.6.32.21 and we have 2.6.32.17.

That said, evil D ported the MyTouch4G rom to Nexus and has working Wifi Calling:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=812892

i knew i should have kept my nexus a little longer... :(
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] Ssantos6981:
I read somewhere the wifi calling still uses tmobile minutes because the call is routed through the internet over tmobile towers. Other than overcoming horrible reception at home (which ji don't have, luckily), I would have no other use for that. I was hoping wifi calls wouldn't count towards minuhtes used. Maybe I am wrong on the info I read tho...
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] PsychoKilla666:
unfortunately the t-mo of late; the one we hate, [lol rhymes] decided to assrape the functionality of wifi calling and out popped this retarded ****
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] TheMan42:
Your comment makes no sense - its going to be free and its coming the G2 in due time, officially. What's wrong with the app that's being presented? I'd site love to hear your constructive input.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] vdub804:
Lol what is the point of wifi calling when your minutes are still being used its pointless
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] succorso:
Useless? How about where you have no cell signal like anywhere in my house or at the top of Mt. Everest (they just got wifi).
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] minotauri:
it can be very useful. i dont get reception at work but i can get wifi... that alone is great for me, because i'm at work 8-10 hours a day without service.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] mingkee:
Are you speaking nonsense or something???

I used to have no indoor signal in Fort Totten. Now I have Virgin Mobile mifi and nokia 6301 (it has wifi calling feature) and I have alternative solution for talking indoors (locate the mifi by the window and let it converts to wifi calling for 6301).

In addition, you should thank wifi calling can save you international roaming under wifi mode overseas.
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] hawaiian.monzta:
Can anyone tell me where they are getting stuck on the "enabling" part? I downloaded the wificall.apk file. Opened it up. It told me to select the wifi that i wanna use so i did and it said it was on. It didnt give me no error or say that it was enabling. As soon as i clicked on the wifi i use it didnt give me any problems at all
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] hawaiian.monzta:
Is there a way i can disable the cellular radio completely so that i can check to see if the wifi calling works?
[G2 and Desire Z Themes and Apps] minotauri:
does it say connected? try restarting the app and it'll probably say enabling forever.