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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kimatrix:
That is true but if you have the full sources you are able to look what the differences are and maybe patch those by your self. Assume a wlan driver is using an function that has changed or is gone in 2.2, then you can try to patch that by finding the new one for it to work with. If you don't have the sources it's much harder to do those kind of things.

As I sad you have the sources so you can play by your self even if samsung does not do anything. It does not mean it's easy and it does not mean it can be done fast. But it does mean it could be done.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psychoace:
But the video drivers are already compiled. Can they be easily decompiled? It's not a source file if it's already compiled.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zonyl:
Can they be decompiled and made to work? Of course!

Will someone be motivated to do all this work? Unknown.

Besides drivers arent the only issue to getting a new version of Android on a phone. If you dont have source for any proprietary userland daemons/apps (like radio?) that communicate with the hardware you will be SOL on that as well.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HazzBazz:
MMMMMMMMM if we can do it for the G1 we can do it SGS...the question is when and how much work. The Galaxy S will be Samsung's flagship device for A YEAR so I'd hope to get Gingerbread...unless Samsung are really stupid. Especially with a lot of US launches, they'll be able to relaunch with Gingerbread as it comes is my hope.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kitsune223:
Who told you that??? The source code of the GPU as well as every other coprocessor is there.

The two .o file that started this all fiasco are ok and you as long as the make file include them in the build they would work perfectly.

All they have inside is a simple elf code to tell the s3c*** to do whatever it needs to do. A source code wouldn't have been beneficial as it would have to be compiled differently for a different ARM instruction set .
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psychoace:
But when you need drivers for 2.2 the source code would be optimal because these drivers are not going to work without some hacking.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kitsune223:
They are going to work as they are non kernel bound ELF files.

Guys this isn't a driver ,if it was a kernel module ( or "driver" s you call it) it would have been a .ko file and had a slightly different structure ( use readelf on a kernel module and then on this to see the difference). So no matter what it is when can use the compiled version as it not kernel bound

From quick inspection it seems like the injection code for the s3c*** . so basically its there so the kernel could reference to it when the code tells it to do so . So Basicly all we have to do is put it in the proper place when building the kerne.

So please DON'T PANIC :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] J-Hop2o6:
well the TP2 just got 2.2 FroYo (2.1 has more working drivers ATM).. but if we have it, how would it be different for the SGS to get FroYo?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kitsune223:
You need to remember that while other companies can update kernel quite easily ( all the work is done for them by the chip manufacturer and some member of the community ) this isn't possible here as this is a chip only used in one android/other linux platform device and the company making the device also make the chip.

So give them a few weeks to work on it :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psychoace:
let's just say it will be the first time a non Samsung Rom has worked on a Samsung Android phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clubtech:
Not true.

Look here: http://forum.samdroid.net/f28/lkmod-v-2-5-1-based-jce-en-upd-03-30-a-336/

I see a custom ROM made for the i5700 :)

Everything is possible.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psychoace:
Did I say custom rom? No i said specifically non samsung based roms on a samsung device. That custom rom is based off of a Samsung rom.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psychoace:
This is the closest we have got to a Hero rom on a Samsung device.

http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-behold-2/60408-port-htc-hero-behold-2-wip.html

He couldn't get Rosie to boot so who knows what other problems he would of had after that (from the picture you can see he never got any network connection)

So there don't say I didn't give you any hope.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjgunn:
Froyo is offical. That's good, but we need to be looking past it to Gingerbread.

Froyo is announcedm confirmed, and now dated for the end of September, and that's great. But to me, that's not the question we need to be asking Samsung anymore, we need to be thinking past that.

The question people need to be asking Samsung, so we can get them on the record committed to it now, is will you release a Gingerbread update for the phone as long as the hardware is capable of supporting it. The OS is only 2-3 months from being unveiled if Google sticks to their time table, and if the rumors are true it'll be a much bigger overhaul than 2.1-2.2 is.

So unless we want our phones to be outdated before the end of the year, we need to start making a push as a community to get a commitment from Samsung to support not just the OS that was released 4 months ago, but also the much bigger one that's right around the corner.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] natsirt789:
2.2 is good.. proves everyone wrong who said "ooh its Samsung, of course they won't release Froyo."

but somehow, I doubt that samsung will somehow not upgrade SGS to 3.0. If they do, it might be a few months (at least) after everyone else gets it. The reason is, they could have new flagship devices out that they wanna push to the mass-markets, so putting gingerbread on that will boost the sales.

However, considering that they marketed the SGS so well, and have it well on its way, they might just put gingerbread on it ;)

seriously, i see ads for SGS EVERYWHERE online.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] appelflap:
I totally expect that my phone will be outdated by then. That's a consequence of the world we live in :) But then again, i'm a nihilist
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skyworxx:
Gingerbread will be released for the Galaxy TAB anyway, so sooner or later we will get a port for the SGS, even if Samsung decides to stop support after Froyo.

I guess Samsung will release the Nexus Two with Gingerbread.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Will.1:
I think it'd be a good way for Samsung to say a bit "FCK U GUYS, 'SUP NOW!!!!" to all of us complaining about how they were lame with froyo deployment if they were to release Gingerbread real fast
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
NO! Its apsolutely IMPOSSIBLE! Even God cant do this.

Maybe Chuck Norris, only maybe.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RyanZA:
Gingerbread TEST builds. Samsung was pretty quick with Froyo test builds, they started coming out back in June after all. It just takes a long time from the first test build to the final release build, mostly because of the customizations Samsung does for every single local carrier around the world, it seems. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MAMBO04:
Official roll out in the UK for Froyo begun a week ago, so Samsung is rolling out Froyo officially.

Gingerbread will be interesting, i hope Google has sorted out the UI and added useful stuff...

I'm with RyanZA here, i think they'll release Test builds soon.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] penfold:
i'm just stunned at the amount of these phones that they are selling despite the well publicised lag ....if i had known about the underlying problem at the time i would not have bought the phone, thank goodness (and the devs) for the lagfixes
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bilboa1:
i think if i knew it would be good with the fix i would have bought it anyway .. but.. i'm still surprised as well, since most people won't actually install the fix, its weird. when the lag really kicks in the phone is an horror
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcarr622:
Samsung hasn't confirmed that Gingerbread is coming to the Galaxy S, but it seems natural given that carrier launches are still coming up and this phone is a streamroller in terms of sales internationally.

RyanZA, do you have information about Gingerbread confirmation from Samsung?

I can't wait for test builds, hope they come :) Seeing as I am an Obsessive Compulsive ROM Flasher (or whatever they're calling it these days) I am antsy with nothing new to flash since 11/6!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laggedHero:
If the Nexus Two is true and really is based on Galaxy S... It should make it easier to port.

But... A Nexus Two based on SGS. I'll just go out and buy that baby on day one.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dcarr622:
So far these "Nexus Two" rumors have been unsubstantiated, and if I remember correctly, Samsung has flatly denied them.

With the Nexus One still having pretty much top specs and the fact that it will apparently be getting Gingerbread any day now, I think we have a few months to wait before a Galaxy Two shows up. The Nexus isn't even one year old yet.

BTW Adobe Flash was updated today with Gingerbread compatibility, official release can't be far off.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omnia-one4all:
rumors has it that google is rolling out 2.3 late nov early dec.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hgtran:
gizmocruch.com said nexus one will get gingerbread. Isn't nexus one hardware similar if not worse than galaxy s? I just really hope we get the update too. :):)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mokurex:
Sure the galaxy s has better hardware than the n1, and would probably handle gingerbread better than the n1, but this was never about the hardware. I don't think every android phone that has a higher spec than the n1 is getting gingerbread.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dreamtheater39:
but the n1 has more ram than our sgs :|

I hope gingerbread doesnt have higher ram requirements! also with cm6, i can see some hope :) i'd anyway switch to the next galaxy s version, whatever its called, the moment its out :D

cant wait for next year ;) :P
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
It is not about hardware, is about how you approach the Android Os or the the Linux file system.

Is Samsung learning from its mistakes? All that waste of NAND flash and bad using of RAm disk...etc. etc....?

First get Froyo working properly on a Samsung device, then you can look forward and towards Gingerbread.....imho

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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Billus:
Screw that, Froyo is the most overated **** in my opinion. Bring on Gingerbread.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] newWMuser:
Totally agree with you. Got my phone flashed or whatever with so much difficulty and nearly totally bricked my phone in the process.

At the end of the day I got a stupid os which lags more than it used to with 2.1.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Technecium:
Apple is only part of the equation. With LG's Optimus line coming out with dual core tegra 2 the sgs is practically obsolete, if they are only focusing on hardware.

So I don't expect anything beyond FroYo.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dezshiz:
Gingerbread should come... even if it doesn't we still have nexus s' rom rite?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Auzy:
It probably seems that way because half of you guys don't realise Samsung seems to have backported a huge amount of patches to Eclair. But for those who use apps which require the new API, Froyo is required. If we were running it without patches though, the benefits would be more clear cut!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidwincent:
Agree.

The Nexus S is going for the new gingerbread UI without custom skins like Touchwiz?

So, will it be possible to run nexus rom on galaxy s?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dreamtheater39:
Gingerbread announcement tomorrow??? Cant wait!!

December 6th, announcement from google! Man, cant seem to wait any longer to find out whats new :) Wonder why google does this to us :P

Any of you guys know of any site where can get some live updates/info?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ming930919:
who said they are announcing tomorrow? link?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dreamer_es:
Just look for "android 2.3" on google or type "android 6 december", it seems something is gonna be announced, could be android 2.3? Let's see :) (and hope Samsung won't be as slow as with 2.2 to get it to the Galaxy S)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shranav:
This time i think SGS will be the 3rd phone to get it, First will be NEXUS S , 2nd ll be NEXUS ONE and Finally SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kangal:
Disagreed.

First will be the Nexus One, then the Nexus S, then the SGS (if lucky).

Why?

The Nexus One is Google's official development phone and its out already. It will get 2.3 on day one (that source code is released) but the Nexus S will be announced shortly after and it will most likely come out with 2.3 and will replace the Nexus One as the official development phone.

Whatever comes next is anyone's guess, could be the SGS (since Samsung-Google collaboration), but I do think the Desire HD and Desire Z will be one of the earlier phones to jump ship (HTC has a good reputation on updating their phone's software).
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okorn_:
Cant waitt :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fr4gg0r:
First one will be the emulator. :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dorin89:
Gingerbread is out!!

Here are some threads and links about GINGERBREAD,the new android 2.3:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsungmade_google_nexus_s_is_now_official_10_days_to_launch-news-2124.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/android_23_gingerbread_is_here_brings_a_host_of_new_goodies-news-2123.php

And here is the new improved galaxy s now named SAMSUNG NEXUS S:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_google_nexus_s-3620.php

Will they update soon galaxy s with 2.3?..if somebody knows
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
old news, the is already a very long topic about both the phone and 2.3
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alcurtis93:
Android 2.3 (gingerbread)

Does the new update have support for bluetooth 3.0? Have a galaxy s and only seem to be getting bluetooth 2 speeds even between two galaxy s phones? Was told android doesn't support it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kruzeman:
Nice to see everyone making educated guesses. And I'm not here to second guess your intelligence or anything cause frankly when it comes to phones and such the only knowledge I have comes from these forums.

But.. did any of you guys actually once tried calling samsung up about it? :confused:

Well not sure how much its worth.. But I sent the dutch customer service an email.

Here is their response:

Ook met betrekking tot de beschikbaarheid van een bepaalde softwareversie is Samsung afhankelijk van

Google. Hoewel de Galaxy S voorbereid is voor zowel Android 2.3 en 3.0, kunnen wij momenteel helaas geen

uitspraak doen over de releasedatum van Android 2.3

Dont worry :p here is the translation!

In regard to the availiability of certain software version, samsung is dependant on Google. Even though the Galaxy S is prepared for both android 2.3 as 3.0 we currently cannot make any announcements about the release date for 2.3.

Unfortunately they kinda failed to answer my question so I sent them another email. Yes I can be rather annoying..

If they could tell me if this means they WILL release it for the galaxy S. And that I couldnt care about the releasedate. (ofc I do , but one step at a time ;) )
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazykiddo:
use wifi/usb...BT sucks :-D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alcurtis93:
Suppose, know when wifi direct comes out?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Auzy:
Seems to support the protocol at least:

http://www.samsung.com/ph/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification

The first few hits in Google are deceptive, there is no reason why Android can't support BT3. There were also people saying the Samsung Galaxy S only had a Mono FM chip. However, Samsung fixed that. Android also doesn't support multiple SD cards apparently, and yet, here we are.. Technically, the Android framework can accomplish anything. Just because upstream doesn't support something doesn't mean it can't be added
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oswade:
IIRC, BT 3.0 piggybacks off the wifi chip to achieve the speed increase... so wifi shouldn't be any different...

Seems like samsung either needs to integrate bluetooth 3.0 file transfer, or build an app capable of doing so (assuming the framework already exists).

EDIT: According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Bluetooth_v3.0_.2B_HS it may just be 3.0 without high speed transfer, as "HS" isn't mentioned in the specs. Which would be kinda stupid... seems like the only other difference is Unicast Connectionless Data (UCD) whatever that is...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emmarbee:
Galaxy S is gonna get 2.3 for sure.

If not from Samsung, at least from Xda devs though custom ROMS.

:) After all, the Nexus S is having the same specs as ours :) :)

So honeycomb also confirmed - definitely (cause Nexus S will receive 3.0 for sure)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sonci:
The point is: does Ginger have GPU accelerated UI?

otherwise I don`t see any need at all, just another lagging OS
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sukalp:
Gingerbread Update

Well Samsung India HAS said a Gingerbread update will happen, so all that can be done is to wait and watch for all of us who are outside India.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PIRATA!:
I'm sorry...and when will this Gingerbread for the SGS I9000 should be released?

What Q* of next year are we talking about?

Thank you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrmozz:
Any news about this? When can I expect to upgrade my galaxy with gingerbread?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ata1918:
Huh das raar mij werd dit aan de telefoon verteld :

Komt 2.3 nog ?

Maar meneer 2.2 is pas net uit.

Ik weer vrage, zegt hij zovan , jha maar pas in de lente (natuurlijk iets later voor NL)

ENG:

That's weird,

When I was on the phone with Samsung Benelux,

I asked if 2.3 was coming, and the guy replied with ''But Sir, 2.2 is just out''

So I asked a few more times and then he finally replied with ''Yes but probarly in Spring/ Q2)

Can't wait untill it's out!

But one thing I'm wondering..are Nexus S ROM dumps useless ?

I mean there are a lot of similarities..
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iyousif:
Officially (via Samsung Twitter Account): Yes, they will release 2.3 update to SGS :)

When: That's the right question!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Berserk87:
They've already released what specs the phone must have in order to be able to run gingerbread, and the galaxy s is within those specs.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rawat:
They were rumoured specs, and have been refuted by Dan Morrill via his twatter http://twitter.com/morrildl
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jam3sjam3s:
Gingerbread for Galaxy S?

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/09/02/samsung-confirms-android-3-5-honeycomb-for-tablets-in-2011/

Does this mean we will get Gingerbread too?

Or at least can we hope for unofficial port?

The hardware of Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S is almost the same, but screen resolution is different.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AvatarReborn:
We've not even gotten Froyo yet.

Who knows if and when we will get gingerbread.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jam3sjam3s:
Yeah, I'm not asking when. Not even if there will be official update.

But since Galaxy Tab will officially get Gingerbread, I'm asking if port can be done.

As I've mentioned, there is just one difference between Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab - screen resolution.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
Screen resolution is highly unlikely to be a minimum spec of gingerbread that is a deal breaker. SGS in all estimations will be able to handle Gingerbread. SGS community is growing fast with over 1M users in the US even being released on only carriers ranked 2 & 4, nearly the same amount in Korea, who knows how many on the I9000? With no phone with a real trump card coming out soon on all carriers?

I have confidence in Gingerbread coming in one form or another. Froyo is only "delayed" in one market, being Korea that was supposed to get it in August.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
Cameras are different.

Wifi chip is different

There could be other differences too, we wont know without an teardown. For instance, I'd expect the same GPS chip, but if anything is going to be replaced that is highly similar it might be that...good news is, if they use it again then it's almost surely a software/server problem causing some issues (or ignorance for putting in the same chip).

Cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
3.0 will be out for sure for our phones

the problem is WHEN :D

most likely spring of 2011

if they took so long to get 2.2 which by the way is not even out

i'm sure they will need at least 6 month to get 3.0 out the door
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
Fact is, everyone here is guessing about whether we get it.. Nobody knows for sure, but it seems likely that if we don't officially, we should be able to non-officially. What you are asking for is the best guess...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jam3sjam3s:
I know cameras are different, but I guess that won't be a problem for porting. Wi-Fi indeed might be one. But we have Hummingbird with A8/SGX 540 which I guess is the most important.

I don't really think Samsung will offer official update :(

Even FroYo was not a 100% sure update, let alone Gingerbread.

I'm asking if the information about Galaxy Tab is making guesses more correct.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
Well, we don't know. But it is very likely that if Gingerbread is released in the near future, it can run on our phones. Now that the CyanogenMod team are working on the i9000 too, they will probably support it.

But nobody here can say anything for sure, because Google has released very little info (and for every correct leak, there are 99 wrong ones, and half of the correct ones are obvious).
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
We can all speculate, but let's use a bit of reason. Samsung is finally taking the smartphone game pretty seriously, they are also trying to corner the Android tablet market (they will have initial success followed by lots of competition, we'll see how they do).

Anywho, onto the point. The most important thing is what happens with the other top 5 phones:

G2

Droid X

Droid 2

HTC EVO

Droid Incredible

If all or most of these phones get Gingerbread and Galaxy S doesn't this will be worse than anything that happened with the behold and previous controversies. It will affect more users at a more critical time. The future of the smartphone market will be more at play here than the history of Samsung support if logic and sound business practice comes into play here.