yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Vibrant General] mmalott:
Fact is HTC smartphone reputation runs circles around Samsung's. Numbers or no numbers. Any phone that HTC puts out that is even close in specs is probaly better then any Samsung phone. You cant argue with HTCs vs Samsungs mobile record in the last few years. Fact is HTC is a better manufacturer of smartphone devices.

With that said, I don't know why every phone that comes out (mostly HTCs) people feel the need to make a post comparing them to the Vibrant. Unless you feel like your Vibrant isnt good enough, why do it? If you dont like your Vibrant sell it or trade it in. Unless Samsung gets rid of what are categorically Samsung problems (file system, Touch Wiz, etc) which they wont. I dont even see how its fair to compare the two companies or their phones.

This isnt to bash Samsung. Lots of people probaly like the Touchwiz over the plain Android UI. They may be content with the issues in exchange for the features they got. But to compare every new phone that comes out to the Vibrant seems like your kicking yourself in your own ass.
[Vibrant General] heygrl:
I don't have the time or energy to point out how much of a moron you are.
[Vibrant General] lolcopter:
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuugly
[Vibrant General] trashcan:
this is why Samung is rolling out Vibrant 2 and ditching us in the back.
[Vibrant General] kgbkny:
I can't even begin to imagine how many issues that phone will have.
[Vibrant General] kizer:
Man I sware a bunch of girls with Buyers Remorse.

Root it, Rom it, Use it. I must be the one on the planet that can care less about Froyo.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
Obviously you didn't.

Had you done your research, you'd know that using Quadrant and Linpack to judge a 2.1 phone vs a 2.2 phone is about the most rookie, stupid mistake you can make.

Come back after you've uninstalled your task killer.
[Vibrant General] boimarc89:
Actually I have better things to do so /close rant...good day sir
[Vibrant General] jackhuny:
Screen matters a lot to me. From what I have looked Vibrant is the best. I am assuming MyTouch will not have super AMOLED but AMOLED or even SLCD crap?
[Vibrant General] Tpavey:
Htc seems to have gone to the slcd displays. They are nice, but after having the Vibrant I cannot imagine a TN panel. IPS would be acceptable.
[Vibrant General] Dougefresh91:
I believe the reason posts about other phones go up in the Vibrant forum is because they're T-Mobile phones. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have yet to see a post about a Sprint or Verizon phone here. I think it's an issue of what you have to choose from if you're locked into a T-Mobile contract (or on a business budget, like me). I for one am sticking with T-Mobile because, quite simply, they're the cheapest. You get the most for your money with them. Their selection of phones on the other hand is the least appealing to me out of the US's big four carriers. I would have a Droid Incredible if I felt like paying Verizon prices, but screw that. We're talking an extra $30/month. However, T-Mobile's Android phone selection is slowly improving, so people are weighing their options.

Personally, I like the Vibrant, I'm glad I got it, and having Froyo isn't really that big of a deal. Having the fastest hardware, or the biggest screen isn't either. Realistically, it's just a phone. It makes calls and gets me my work emails; everything else is just bonus. But, it irks me to see that every week another HTC phone is getting updated to 2.2. Samsung is screwing off, but I'm sure you know as well as anyone else here, so I'm not going to spew pointless details about how much their support sucks. And that's really what it is for me--I feel like I'm getting screwed. I don't like being taken advantage of, and that's exactly how I feel every time I see one of Samsung's BS announcements. If it's this much of a Cluster-f*** now, this early in the game, just imagine what the future will be like. I doubt we'll ever see 2.3 or 3.0 or whatever's next.

I for one like seeing what other people think about the latest T-Mobile phone. Sure there's a lot of jackassery going around, but between those posts there's some good info that will help me decide when to sell my Vibrant, and for which replacement.

Sorry, I kind of started ranting there for a minute. Off-topic ADD speed typing. I was just trying to say that I think it's a matter of T-Mobile phone vs. T-Mobile phone more than anything. If I stop reading tech news and blogs I'd probably go about my life not giving a crap about what Samsung's doing, because really, at the end of the day, it's just a phone to me.
[Vibrant General] kizer:
Exactly its just a phone. My Vibrant replaced my G1 which honestly I seemed to of lost in the house some where. My G1 Replaced my Sidekick XL which replaced ..............

Get the best bang for the buck and use it. I don't care what phone you buy there is going to be a dev hopefully here that can make it better or faster. Do you think any maker or carrier really cares about "you" after they put their phones out? If you think YES then you better get your head out of the sand. The ones they care about are the "INVESTORS".

Things will happen, but sometimes you have to make it happen yourself.

Personally I like seeing new phones and I hope to see my next phone floating around out there. I've not really ever been a fan of the MyTouch line.
[Vibrant General] mmalott:
Which makes my point. You CANNOT generally compare anything HTC has to Samsung. HTC is like the pros while Samsung is collegiate. Samsung just hasn't proven themselves in the mobile market for the hardcore fans while HTC continues to put out 1 beastly phone after another. *edit* In that regard I do have a little bit of buyers remorse, especially gettin hit with the HTC G2 & other announced HTC devices so soon. But don't get me wrong, I think the Vibrant is great. */edit*

I don't know. Maybe its just me but if I want information,comparisons, or reviews on a phone, I don't come to XDA. I think theyre are better sources of information out there and XDA's resources better used for development and customization of the devices.

LoL. I know what you mean about the blogs and news. Thats what gets me back in that crazy cycle of NEEDING that next phone.
[Vibrant General] tissimo:
About latencies, what do hspa+ phones run on a hspa+ network? My vibrant gets 60 - 80. The 93ms in my sig is tethered to my laptop giving an extra 10-20 ms.

Sent from my SGS Vibrant.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
HSPA+ phones wont be any lower. All 3g phones benefit from HSPA+ tower improvements. Your 60-80ms pings are because you're connected to an HSPA+ tower. An HSPA+ phone would have identical pings.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] alex_hotmail:
I downloaded the source tree for android 2.2 from source.android.com. However, I can only make generic. How can I build an android 2.2 for nexus one? Thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dchadwick:
You may want to check out: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Compile_CyanogenMod_for_Passion

It may not be totally "generic" but its pretty close and may give you more information on how to build direct AOSP.

I hope that helps!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Master™:
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[Vibrant Themes and Apps] zephiK:
Is this some kind of ADVERTISING thread? I don't see any form of discussion to this, if this was a discussion then every thread in here would be started about a particular app.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Master™:
I am sharing an app? I just copied the details, If you don't want the app then ok.. It's free anyways
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] jamesey10:
i love lookout. it's simple, unobtrusive, and just works.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Master™:
Yeah, I have had a phone stolen before.. I want to be able to find this one if it is stolen :D
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] down8:
I used Lookout (back before it was "Lookout") on my Hermes. Still a great lock/locate/AV app.

-bZj
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] dublj:
I have lookout also and like it. I was not aware of the nuke feature tho....
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Master™:
haha yeah, I just saw that as I was copying the details..
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] SamVib:
I use Mobile Defense.

You can lock it, with a passcode.

You can display a message for the thief, like: (Hey I know you live XXXX I am calling the cops)

View the EXACT location with GPS.

If you are rooted and gps is off when you lose it, you can turn it on.

And lastly... You can apply it as a update.zip so the thief can't unistall it.

Just my 2 cents.

https://www.mobiledefense.com/
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Master™:
Only thing is that is still in beta :/
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] g1ftmfw:
Our phones are still in beta too... :-) lolz
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Master™:
hhaha maybe yours is.. But mine isn't. Bionix FTW!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] g1ftmfw:
Haha mine is great as well i was being phececious and fishing for my favorite trolls... my vibrant ****in rocks!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Master™:
haha yeah.. :rolleyes:
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] androidcee123:
Unfortunately, they have a waiting list! Looks like a cool app though.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] PSP_Hacker:
I have a question, what sort of malware/hacking can be done in Android other than spamming a trillion SMS messages to all your contacts or an app using an exploit to gain superuser? I just don't see the need for anti-virus software in Android. Actually, if you really want anti-virus, it should have a native library so that it can scan application .dex files and binaries faster and better than in Java, and it should use root so that it can access the entire file system for scanning.

The only reason why I have Lookout is because of the GPS positioning. If I loose my phone I can find out where it is and kill the ass hole that stole it :D

UPDATE: Forgot to thank Master (the OP) for his work :D
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Master™:
IDK, I didn't even use the anti-virus on this. Just the other.

P.s. Thank me for what?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] icreepin:
how is this app on battery life?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] MattRussNC:
Was wandering if this app is for me. Am looking for a good lost phone tracker. Not concerned with "viruses". I know there are other apps out there for tracking, this seems to be the most popular though. What i am concerned with how much resources it uses and its hit on the battery. Also need a app that doesn't require txt service as i use gv.

So how hard a hit does this have on performance and battery ?
[TG01 General] ien_cn:
I found that in many 6.5 Roms the button on toolbar of mobile ie are color distortion ,them looks less Color than the other button below.

this phenomena can be found in most miROM ,some ffboy's rom and some others .

I try to resolve it but failed.I deemed to some file in /windows named default_toolbarXXX.png are the image source,

I replace them but it dosen't works. can anyone can explain away my doubts and solve it .

by the way ,

can the mobile ie 6.5 be extracted to a CAB?and the CAB can install in 6.1 rom.thaX >>>>>>>>>sorry for my Eng .:confused:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CTH-EVO:
Greetings, and apologies in advance for the stupid sounding/already mentioned a thousand times question.

My point(less) reason for creating this thread is in an attempt to save people from themselves.

There are a multitude of related posts on this subject. But I thought that if this question were pinned,

it might be a great reference to point users to before they rooted, or when asking questions that would

require getting an answer to this.

That said, this is intended to list all of the available possibilities for backing up your data - which applications

are currently available && what backup type they are best suited for.

In short; how to root && not get caught with your pants down. :)

Please post definitive information, so that I can add it here. :)

Thank you for all your time and consideration.

--Chris
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Franteeko:
Nandroid and titanium backup seem to be the best for me.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dkdude36:
of course always nandroid, but with titanium, you have to hit install and done for each one. i like to backup using themepro (cli for mac) and then i make a flashable zip that puts them all in /system/app instantly.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evoguy12:
titanium backup
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HipKat:
I always used Titanium backup, until the last ROM I flashed, none of my data would restore, so now I have MyBackup Pro.
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
Here we go
[G2 and Desire Z General] AZ2ENVY:
Well best of luck and I WILL be keeping up with this !!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neejay:
Subscribing lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] Blueoval24:
holy crap, already? Subscribed...
[G2 and Desire Z General] larryccf:
would love it if you could check to see if you see the nand chip (probably a square flat pc, soldered on one of the boards) and if it sez "SEM04G" or "SEM02G" on it

that would resolve the issue on internal memory

also if you can take a shot of what is serving as a spring on the Z hinge -

tks in advance and definitely subscribed
[G2 and Desire Z General] smasraum:
:eek:

Wow, OK.

Why?
[G2 and Desire Z General] AZ2ENVY:
Lols are you really asking why ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] diversificationied:
It's hard to take a picture of gravity
[G2 and Desire Z General] ImSoHungry:
In the name of phonecology

Sent from my Nextel™ using the XDA app
[G2 and Desire Z General] AZ2ENVY:
He is taking a huge step noone else will take to find the case of the missing 2GB+

of ROM :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
Ouch! I will definitely be keeping tabs on this.

May I ask why your taking it apart?
[G2 and Desire Z General] AZ2ENVY:
WTF !?!? ^^^^ Does anyone read the replies ???
[G2 and Desire Z General] larryccf:
not necessarily - in fact I believe there has to be a spring employed - take your phone, hold it so either end is facing straight down (not one of the long edges down) -

then open the screen all the way, start to bring it back like you're closing it, and about 1/3rd of the way from full open, a spring brings it across the center point and nearly to the 1/3rd from fully closed position. No gravity in effect there -

probably isn't much of a spring, but it doesn't need much - a flat strip of plastic that the end of the hinge rubs against and bows out as the screen travels toward the center of it's open/close arc. at the center of that arc would be the max point of bow.

there's another way to do it, but with the limitation in depth, that's how i suspect their doing it - i could be wrong on the 'how' part, but there is a spring capturing energy from the screen as you open it - as the above demo proves
[G2 and Desire Z General] ericc191:
Well, if we can get proof that it's not a 4GB chip like T-Mobile's claiming, they won't be able to refuse returns/exchanges.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mark925:
facepalm.gif
[G2 and Desire Z General] Superfrag:
Damn, this is interesting!
[G2 and Desire Z General] diversificationied:
Pretty sure the design is based on pendulum swing.
[G2 and Desire Z General] o>c:
Salute for this astonishing attempt:eek:
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
One hinge is easy the other is not. The one up with the copper strip (which must be pealed to reveal another screw) is a *****. The mobo is very thin. Will try again tomorrow after I have fun upgrading vCenter servers at work.
[G2 and Desire Z General] larryccf:
try what i described -
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
If anyone wants to buy me this shirt... :P

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/generic/8f52/
[G2 and Desire Z General] oldsk00lz:
Nice project... brave man. Can't wait to see more details. :O
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mftek1:
Thats whats up bro! i will be keeping an eye on this post........
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
Also, the hinges, at least on the mainboard side, appear to have no spring and are on "pins". No screws to tighten.
[G2 and Desire Z General] funkadesi:
Why cant people UNDERSTAND thats just how the hinge work works. Did any anyone ever take physics in HS or college. its a momentum based system. You push the wait of the top-half(screen) against the hinges.. and hinges transfer the energy to the other end.... causing a reaction of the screen to land on the other side.... jeez...
[G2 and Desire Z General] larryccf:
try what i described

holding the phone vertically, oriented nearly the way it would be if you were holding it to ear

then open the keyboad all the way, once opened, with the phone still vertical lift the screen like you were starting to close the keyboard - before you've lifted the screen portion a 1/4 of it's travel, let go - it'll snap back to full open position

that isn't "momemtum" or gravity - an element connected to the hinge has captured energy (a spring) and using that captured energy to return it to the fully open position. It doesn't fall back to full open - it's powered - do it and you'll see what i'm talking about

whether it's a little tab in the plastic motherboard (kind of like a short diving board) that the hinge is deflecting, or a plastic plate or metal plate, something is being deflected or bent and wanting to return to it's normal state or position

try it and tell me again how that force is "momentum"
[G2 and Desire Z General] larryccf:
i think i see where they are - on the back side of the screen, the hinge ends appear to have raised surfaces (like cam lobes) that are compressing or deflecting metal plates under them

i can see them with a flashlight when the phone is fully in open position down at the bottom of the wells where the hinge ends disappear into the back side of the display - you can confirm what i suspect if you operate one of the hinges by hand while it's still attached to the screen side - moving one of the hinges to full open position, then moving it back like it was being closed - move it partially and let go - see if it springs back to the fully open position

but more importantly, have you seen or found the nand chip yet with the sem04g or sem02g text on it?
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
Yes a cam function would make sense if you look at the size of where they connect.

I have not found the NAND yet as it is on the unserside of the mainboard that is in my picture.
[G2 and Desire Z General] KiNG OMaR:
Hahahaha,

I like this... I don't even want to know why :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mftek1:
almost there!
[G2 and Desire Z General] digikid:
Subscribed...finally some facts. Thanks TC!
[G2 and Desire Z General] xile6:
what tools did you use? I and wish they come out with a metal backing. (the piece on the left in the pic) that why the whole back would be the same.

But its cool that your taking urs apart to find out some nfo.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Clackamas:
I have done a little investigation. Remember this about my comments: I am intimate with the Linux kernel, but only now coming up to speed on Andriod development and have not studied the Linux implementation in detail on Android.

I don't want to root my phone (in case I decided to take it back) at this time. However, the internal memory is device "mmc" , Major number 179, minor 0. /proc/partitions shows mmcblk0 with a total size of 2203648Kb. People are seeing "1.2GB" available of "1.3GB" available, because mmcblk0 is divided into about 20 partitions that are using the other ~900Kb. The "1.2GB" "Internal Memory Available" reported by the Android is mounted to /data. But that partition is inaccessible without root access.

Anyway, the 2203648Kb number is interesting because it is larger than 2^31 (2GB in base 2). This in turn, implies, the Android 2.2 configuration on the G2 is not using all of the "internal mmc" since 4GB = 2^32.

So, I am really interested in the NAND part but I am also interested in what the stock phone showed for internal memory...

Oh, and I used "Android Command Shell" from the Market to obtain the /proc information and confirm what some other tools were saying.
[G2 and Desire Z General] GrizBiskit:
Well if there are no springs, are there magnets that keep it open and closed? This was suggested by kludgineer in the "G2 Loose Hinge / User Accessible Memory Correlation" thread (pg. 9, post #86). I see it as a possibility until it's confirmed or disproved.
[G2 and Desire Z General] swhtownboy:
lmfao! i was thinking the same thing
[G2 and Desire Z General] v8pwrdz28:
subscribed. thanks for being brave lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] Phateless:
Looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xile6:
Nope. No springs or magnets. This is old school tech. The way its made is it kinda locks itself into place when open or closed thats just how the z bracket works. Kinda smart but it does leave it kinda lose but, HTC was counting on people holding the phone right also. (back and front of phone as one so it will never open unless you wanted it to) Thats why it opens up then right. it doesnt slide it moves :P

I like it tho and havent had any problems out of it
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
Back to work!
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
Ugggh! Which one?
[G2 and Desire Z General] JMcMoto:
holy crap, I am so glad you are doing this, but it hurts to see the photos...!
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
You won't be able to tell after I'm done.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ddgarcia05:
I'm guessing it looks something like this.

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&h...1&q=nand+chip+htc&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
Continue this post in my NAND post in General forum if you can.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gee one:
I'm impressed, although your workbench looks a little too clean. And where are you hiding all the hammers and saws? :)

I bet you take the tags off your mattress too!
[G2 and Desire Z General] j0nkatz:
No because you could tell the mattress had been tampered with at that point. ;-)

I would pop the stitching loose and remove the tag that way. This is so I could sew it back on after I try to get warranty work because I had screwed a 600 lb girl on it and broke a spring. ;-)

Seriously I keep all the plasic bags, twitsty ties and so forth for all my gadgets.
[G2 and Desire Z General] smthkat789:
Did you put it back together yet?

Any way you can see if there is other lights at the trackpad besides white?