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[EVO 4G General] SilverZero:
The reason is because Google is already completely swamped trying to keep up with their own success. I just had a nice chat with a high-level Android developer (employed by Google, works in MV) who told me how hard it is for Google to find devs that meet their standards to fill the jobs they need to fill. There are a million different handsets, different carriers, etc. that Google is developing for and trying to keep afloat. They're supporting the open-source community to spread the work load and because it's always been their philosophy. They literally do have better things to do. When you're trying to keep a race car on the track, you don't spend a lot of time waxing the dashboard.

Google is doing an excellent job of managing what has become a HUGE project with Android. As easy as it is to say "I wish they'd do this" you should consider that they are doing a lot of other stuff to ensure that Android will keep on being the best OS in the world. And if you ever do want to complain, just remember one thing: Google gives away Android for free, and they still do all this work to make it great.
[EVO 4G General] smarmytime:
As much as I appreciate them doing this on an open platform, bear in mind, they most definitely are in this for the money.
[EVO 4G General] TruSlide:
CACAO!

Sent from Supersonic Evo 4G
[EVO 4G General] ruben8448:
I really like tango over fring. Its easier to use with friends who have downloaded it and the interface is pretty good.
[EVO 4G General] kratos313:
Have the sleep issues been resolved yet I had to uninstall because of that
[EVO 4G General] rsbenedict:
The sleep issues have not been resolved yet, but they are actively working on it.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Apparently some work is already under way:

What about video chat, though?

We support video chat today, with Google Talk Video. It works on the desktop. Whether that can be repurposed and made appropriate for sipping bandwidth for mobile, it's an exercise that's underway.​

...and as some one already said, Google basically has one core profitable business: advertising. Almost everything they do is an effort to expand on that core business, and this includes Android.
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
last I read google isn't working on a video chat and is leaving that up to developers. I wouldn't expect anything anytime soon.
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
also if tango was only for 2.2 users they would easily be able to fix the sleep issue because they would be able implement the new push notification feature for devs. I think samsung should hurry up and put out their 2.2 update then make tango for 2.2 users only
[EVO 4G General] phxevo:
Cross platform

I have loved how well tango works between my evo and my other family members I-phones. With strong 3g reception the image quality, voice quality, and smoothness of the video is hands down the best of anything I had used before (quik, fring). Once the battery issue is addressed, this will be a great product.

I am also excited to compare its functionality with Yahoos announcement of cross platform video chat. But i do like that I don't have to sign up for yahoo to use Tango.
[EVO 4G General] oski252:
DITTO!!! i fully agree
[EVO 4G General] oski252:
thanks for taking the time to speak to us..........
[EVO 4G General] reverendrhino:
They got a few people from another forum and going to start a Beta with them to fix the problems with EVO. So their on it..
[EVO 4G General] Raadius:
So does Tango do Phone to PC and Vica Versa or just phone to phone for now?
[EVO 4G General] om4:
they are focusing on mobile to mobile for right now but they have plans for a pc client down the line
[EVO 4G General] khov07:
Dmitry - any update for us? Thank you for your time, and keep up the great work!
[EVO 4G General] ins0dus:
Just installed and called my friend who has an Iphone 4 I have an Evo and it was great, volume is a little low but its still good. I recommend it
[EVO 4G General] althis:
just used it to call my friend on his iphone, 3g was a little slow so the image was a little choppy and the audio wasn't the greatest, but it's still a great app
[EVO 4G General] marctronixx:
once battery management is updated, ill jump on the bandwagon...
[EVO 4G General] JMQUINT00:
it looked really good on wifi not that good on 3g
[EVO 4G General] Raadius:
It bent my battery over backwards, no lube. Uninstalled.
[EVO 4G General] khov07:
LOL - that was poetic!
[EVO 4G General] mike21pr:
100% awake time.... uninstalled

Bummer, i really liked it too...

ill wait till they update it
[EVO 4G General] BigRick10:
Been running the Beta and wake time is updated. Here are some screenshots. This app is going to be awesome!! The PQ is just insane!
[EVO 4G General] Zori:
Yeah as I've seen people post before me, the program starts when you turn on the phone and stays awake, I didn't know this last night and when I took my phone off charger today after 4 hours it was at 19% lol, I was freaking out
[EVO 4G General] teshxx:
GReat news. Is it a open beta ? i would love to try it.
[EVO 4G General] marc.ientilucci:
Someone from Tango posted a thread asking if people wanted to test, all u have to do is send him your info and he'll get it out to you. that was last week though so im not sure if they are still looking for people, but the dev's are very responsive, i got an email response very very quickly and they also help out on Twitter. great company, great app, cant wait for the update.
[EVO 4G General] teshxx:
thanx dude
[EVO 4G General] :
I'm on the beta anyone want you test it with me? Send me your info on PM.

Sent while sitting on the toilet.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
Something...I can't quite name it...something makes me not want a video chat with you.

:D
[EVO 4G General] :
Lol

Sent while sitting on the toilet.
[EVO 4G General] Dmitry S @ Tango:
Shoot me an email at dmitrys @ tango . me (no spaces).

Thanks for the compliments! I get 300+ emails per day, and I try to answer 90%+, so if I don't respond within a day, please just send me another email.

Can you please read the email I sent with the .apk? I had to jump through a lot of hoops with management and the server guys to get this program rubber stamped. I would strongly prefer that Beta testers sign up with me at this point.

Awesome! We're going to be running testing all day on this Beta, and hope to push it to the Android Market in the next few days.
[EVO 4G General] khov07:
I am thoroughly impressed with the folks at Tango. I will wait for the update to get pushed; in the meantime I just FC the app when I don't want to use it, and my battery is fine. Made a few test calls, and it is vastly superior to Fring, and a simpler UI than Qik, plus I can video chat with more than just other Evo's.

Just wondering though...with such a great app, and no ads, how are they making money over there? I wonder how long it will continue to be free :-(
[EVO 4G General] :
They'll most likely charge. I'd say a good price point would be under 5 dollars but they'd have to get more things sorted out. Things I don't like/found weird:

1. You have to have his/her number in your contacts. (Sometimes you just want to video chat but not have that person have your number (example would be with another xda member))

Suggestion: Have some kind of PIN service where we wouldn't have to give that info sort of like how PING! does their messaging.

2. Noticed today I was talking to a friend and for some reason it defaulted on the back camera on his. He switched it and it froze on my side although I can still talk and hear him clearly. Maybe some network glitch but I'll play around with it more. (He's also using the beta).
[EVO 4G General] Dmitry S @ Tango:
Thanks for the compliments - makes all of the 12+ hour days at the office worth it.

No ads, our founders are strongly against them.

Mobile-to-mobile video calls will ALWAYS be free.

We will add premium services later down the road to monetize.

Can you email me your suggestions? I put together a report at the end of the week and share with the product team. I like the PIN service idea.

Haven't seen an EVO default to back camera before - I'll see if i can reproduce.

Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] joey3002:
Email sent :)

thanks
[EVO 4G General] verse187:
Downloading now
[EVO 4G General] teshxx:
Hook me up with beta aswell siir
[EVO 4G General] jrdiaz20:
Tango just updated for me, hopefully it does better now.
[EVO 4G General] chazglenn3:
Hmmmm...the comments from users still say that the app runs constantly thus draining the battery.
[EVO 4G General] uniquenameevo:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=809723

Looks very promising to me to have devs that listen.
[EVO 4G General] marctronixx:
can you guys post if you see any real world difference in the previous version to this newly posted version? much appreciated.
[EVO 4G General] p-slim:
well some people didn't even know there was a battery drain so most may not even notice. already I can tell it is not continually polling
[EVO 4G General] joey3002:
the beta is a huge difference in battery load.. very nice. i use watchdog and it hardly hits usage unless its running.. i am going to test some video tonight while driving home... using the car dock.. want to see how that goes over bluetooth audio.
[EVO 4G General] marctronixx:
thank you!

joey and p-slim, thats the feedback im looking for. i appreciate your kindness in posting. ill continue to monitor this thread...
[EVO 4G General] joey3002:
Here is an issue.. Tried on way home via 3g and it kept saying the network connection was not good enough and would not start tango video

I had full bars so it was a good connection.

Again this was on beta version

Thanks
[EVO 4G General] khov07:
Just downloaded an update from the market.
[EVO 4G General] looneylu:
Just tried over wifi... Worked great... Uninstalled Qik... lol... i had my brother and sister install it on their moments (did I just say moments??!?!?! I meant epics), and they were on 3g when i called them... Video quality was great. Now about to try mine on 3g. Great work. Can't wait til this is not a beta

edit: My phone isn't 100% awake anymore with this.
[EVO 4G General] joey3002:
how did it work for you on 3g?

Maybe my "beta" is now outdated.. lol
[EVO 4G General] damirbusic:
I have just tried it with my Galaxy S and brothers Desire, works PERFECT and the quality is at least 10x better than Qik and Fring which are uninstalled today :)

Flawless work !
[EVO 4G General] EliWay:
Anyone had success with Android to iPhone calls? My friend won't receive the push notification call request on his iPhone 4.

Update: Seems like the problem was on my end. Reinstalled app, added my email address to registration for good measure and sure enough it worked.
[EVO 4G General] kranz68osu:
EVO to EPIC - The epic volume struggles to hear the evo. I also still find that the evo's battery life still isn't great. I am interested in the next round of beta testing. The concept is awesome and delivery is getting better every release. Still the best product out there.
[EVO 4G General] athlet1c:
Worked great with Evos, epics , and Iphones
[EVO 4G General] mytich:
Got one major question. What is the protocol? Is it SIP or some proprietary Skype alike crap?
[EVO 4G General] alex904:
It's using proprietary p2p protocol like Skype.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mentalex2:
Currenently running leaked JI4 ROM. Created backup thru Nandroid. System backed up. Data backed up. Then received a message that was something like "can't find sd, skipping sd". The backup completed and reboot was fine.

Heres my question... When i go to restore this backup, am i going to have any problems. I think I had a similar issue with the JI2 ROM. Restored nandroid of JI2 and it hung on vibrant screen. So I ended up restoring a bionix 1.3 backup I had and it booted fine. Do I need to take extra steps to create a "stock" nandroid backup of the JI4 ROM? Do I need to flash a Stock kernel along with the nand backup? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

ps- if you need any clarity on the situation, please ask. i'll try to clarify better!
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] ogkhaze:
Can anybody port the Droid R2D2 Lockscreen over?

It's shown here: http://www.droid-life.com/2010/09/29/video-r2-d2-droid2-hands-on-only-clocked-at-1-0ghz/
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] luvit:
Og, does you has all R2D2 audio files?
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] setexascustoms:
That would be sweet.
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] ogkhaze:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/10/01/r2-d2-lock-screen-ported-to-droid2-and-droidx/

They have it for the DroidX and the Droid2, we need it nao!
[Droid Incredible Themes and Apps] LTL11:
Was coming here to start this thread.

Please, Please, Please port this.

Man that is sooooweeet looking.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
After waiting for a whole damn hour in line to get a phone serviced

They said they will not service any phone without an invoice

Also Samsung has officially extended the warranty from 15/30 days to 60 days

So any phone that dies within those 60 days it'll basically be replaced, but for that to happen you will need an invoice.

They said they are NOT honouring the eBay purchases, so anyone who purchased through eBay... good luck.

oh, also the phone must be LOCKED, if it's UnLocked they will also not service it.

Any phone after the 61 days will be serviced regardless of where it was purchased, but... for that you will need an invoice, $45 submission fee, and whatever it cost for the repair when you pick it up.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Devhux:
I sure hope I get a new handset - I'll note the IMEI/production date # when I get my replacement back in a few weeks.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
i'm pretty sure you will, most Bell stores and resellers are in back order due the low stock of the phone

mainly because of all the repairs and exchanges needed
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tempott:
What issue is this? Are you referring to the issue people are having with the phone turning off on it's own. Or do you mean the phone completely dies and your not able to turn it back on at all?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
it's for any type of service you want to do with the phone
[Galaxy S I9000 General] daft.71:
? What did you do with your phone? Mine's just fine. I'm confused and did I did not read much on here since the last few days.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
my phone is fine, i was just doing a favour to the guys in USA having trouble with getting the phone serviced by Bell "because you don't have an account with us, we have no way to charge you"
[Galaxy S I9000 General] garyHal:
*crosses fingers* Hopefully mine won't wig out.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] decepticon:
It's my phone. Luckily the original owner still has the invoice so we should be able to get it repaired unless Bell comes out with another excuse.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] opensourcefan:
Guess I better put those how to re-lock instructions somewhere safe...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
Yeah, kinda jumped the gun buying itslick off ebay, make sure you print out the ebay invoice for records.

You can still get it serviced after the 60 days period
[Galaxy S I9000 General] YG007:
I bought mine at Best Buy. They WON'T honour it AT ALL! So they send me to a Bell store. The Bell store sends me back to BB. BB sends me back to Bell... this happens 4 more times in each store, which ends up with me really pissed off cause I have a receipt for the phone that I bought out right from BB. BB totally refuses to exchange my phone, and says you have to go to the manufacturer now, so the tech at the bell store said since I didn't buy the phone from a "Bell store" they can't replace it and they can only send it out for repair. EVEN THOUGH its been way LESS than 30 days. (18 to be exact) So, I had no other choice but to send it out to be repaired. Its been 2 weeks, and still "out for repair". They tell me to check back next week. I can't believe I couldn't even get an exchange since my phone definitely qualifies under Samsung's DOA (30 days) policy, and the bell tech even admitted it too. Who cares where I bought it from! I have a Best Buy recepit, and OBVIOUSLY BB gets their stock from BELL!

So the 60 day period for exchange is ONLY if you bought it from a BELL store. >.<
[Galaxy S I9000 General] decepticon:
Is this standard operating procedure across the board for Canadian carriers? If so it is a total night and day difference from us in the States where the point of sale is responsible for 30 days, Carrier for the next 11 months, and the manufacturer stays out of it.

The only manufacturer I have ever had honor a warranty directly was HTC and that was after hours of arm wringing over the phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hansonator:
Brutal! The damn thing is locked to Bell's network, Best Buy is an authorized seller of Bell phones and plans. I got mine from Best Buy on launch day for the 99 buck sale with $75 gift card. The next day I went to a Bell store to swap numbers with my other phone and got the phone insurance while I waited. They have to give me a new phone even if I smash it on the counter right in front of them. Covers wear and tear also.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
HTC and Palm were very straight forward if you purchased the phone unlocked from factory, they will not hesitate to give you a RMA number to send the phone back for repairs

Bell has always been a biatch to deal with, in ANYTHING.

Samsung has their hands tied due their Exclusive Deal with Bell, so... until that exclusive deals expires, Samsung wont be able to help you directly.

by late October when Rogers releases the Galaxy S (AT&T model) things should have settled down by then, and it should be a better experience dealing with Samsungs own Customer Service rather than Bell's well known nightmare CS, same crap from Rogers CS, that's why i switched to Fido, they are only CS that are more human
[Galaxy S I9000 General] syuk89:
May i know what u mean about lock and unlock for hanfphone
[Galaxy S I9000 General] decepticon:
But isn't Fido owned by Rogers? Odd that they run them independently with different policies like that.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
SIM lock / unlock

originally this model i9000m was locked to Bell, no body else was supposed to use it outside of Bell

so if you send it your phone for service, other than Flash related problem, they will know your phone was unlocked

if the flashed is screwed up, they can't check it at all, and that will pass

but if the phone is bootable, and they can get into the OS, then they'll know if it was SIM unlocked or not

like if you are sending the phone for service because of a screen problem, or speaker problem, or some other thing that does not involved a dead phone :p

so either kill it good before you send it in, or wipe all traces of evidence ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
yeah, thanks goodness they are run separately

it's because they are expecting to sell it back out at some point
[Galaxy S I9000 General] decepticon:
Next trip to Canada I am getting a Fido prepaid account then to support a decent company. Usually I just get a Rogers SIM if my prepaid account is inactive (Rogers keeps them active for 2-3 years without adding funds.)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dawgpound6985:
My experience with Sony and Nokia's RMA process has been excellent. I've bought their phones from the Philippines and used their phones in the USA and they warrantied them with no problem at all from the USA. No proof of purchase required. I just had to send it to a US service center and all they asked for was the serial number to make sure it was still under their warranty. That's why I was surprised Samsung couldn't service a phone made for use in North America. They can't track the phone warranties by the serial number? Whats the point of having them?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Idan73:
Did your second phone die as well??? Did you ever get back the original? Wondering why you ever sent it to samsung (the first phone) if it was DOA back in September and not just straight DOA exchange?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
they ran out of new phone for exchange on the spot, just like now basically.

most stores are in back order
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Legion6789:
I had a similar experience with Bell. I bought an SGS, unlocked it and was about to root when I found out about the 3 button issue, which my phone had. So I went to return it, it had only been 3 days and I hadn't made any phone calls so it was well within both Buyer's Remorse and DOA. I had factory reset the phone before bringing it in to relock and remove all my contacts/etc.

They told me that the phone had been unlocked and they couldn't return it. The weird thing is, it was locked, I checked it, put in my rogers sim and it asked for the NCK. They said that their system is able to tell if a phone has been unlocked, but didn't explain how.

I ended up spending 8 hours at that store convincing them to take the phone back, which they finally did. Then I went to The Source and bought the demo unit with the working 3 button function.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Croak:
Fido is 100% owned by Rogers. Still giving your money to the same company either way.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gns168:
Will a re-lock and a factory "Wipe" do it ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
yes as some one mentioned above, make sure to bookmark the How To re-lock and un-root topics :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gns168:
Done, thank you!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] brunes:
What do you mean by "an invoice".

Do you have a copy of this notice? I am having new problems with my SGS that just got back from service and if it is now 60 days I will bring it in for exchange to the Bell store TOMORROW.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
if you have the invoice when you purchased it then by all means go to the store and exchange it

Samsung did extend the exchange day to 60 any Bell store should be able to honour the exchange as long as it is within the 60 days
[Galaxy S I9000 General] brunes:
OK. Bought it right from the bell store, Should not be an issue there.

Next Thursday is 60 days... will decide between now and then. I'll have to re-sim lock the phone if I return it. Flashing a new kernel now, maybe that will magically solve my issues.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] montrealguy:
I went to the store to exchange mine, but was refused because I no longer have the box. Apparently they only do exchanges if you have a box. I have the charger and phone and warranty paper. Can you imagine that the warranty started on August 30th?!

My phone is essentially a piece of garbage. It electrocutes me when it is plugged in. The GPS never worked. And the screen keeps shutting off in broad daylight because of a defective light sensor.

So now just because I don't have the original box, I have to send it in for repairs and wait 6 weeks. This is insane.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dawgpound6985:
Does anyone have any experience with FutureShop's warranty repair for cell phones? The eBay seller was able to get back to me with the receipt for the phone. The phone was purchased on 8/25 so its already past the 30 days. Does any one know who would be in charge in terms of repairing the phone? FutureShop? Samsung? Bell? I don't mind paying the $45 processing fee.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] daft.71:
I brought mine to a Bell store, even tho I bought it at FutureShop. I bought my phone on the 24th of August (which is 39 days ago). Since the phone is on a waiting list, they put my name on it and should get it next week or something. Which isn't half that bad. Or as if they're aware of the issue or something.

The Android community is a hacking one, so it might not be a surprise for them. :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dawgpound6985:
I see. The problem is, I'm in the US and don't have a Bell service plan. Have to figure out how to get this thing serviced...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] striker456:
I went to another Bell store, different from the one I bought mine at, and was told to go back to the original store, or go to a corporate store. He said since they were a franchise, their stock doesn't overlap with corp. or other franchises. Seems kind of bs to me.