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[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
yeah ur right. but i've been wondering, will the format of videos have to be supported by both the DHD and the PS3? Does the ps3 actually decode the video file, or is that done on the DHD and simply streamed to the ps3?

for example, if i have an .avi file that works on my Desire hd, but assume this file type doesnt work on the ps3 natively, will it still be able to stream it?
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
This is a question that I'm very interested in finding out the answer too actually.

As I understand it, the advertised feature is that I can stream content (pictures, videos. music) to a DLNA device to display on my TV.

In my case, I have a PS3 and an Xbox360 which I assume will recognise my Desire HD and playback the content I have on it, which is fine.

I use my Xbox360 to play back content from my computer (which I believe is DLNA as well), so I am wondering if I can use my Desire HD to play back stuff from other devices. If so, then I can watch all my movies and listen to all my music via DLNA on my phone...

I really badly hope that this will work - MAJOR selling point for me!
[Desire HD General] sub69:
The format of the video has to be supported by the PS3.

That used to be a problem with early PS3 Firmwares, but DivX/Xvid are natively supported by the PS3 these days...
[Desire HD General] sub69:
Well, again, the DLNA app on the Omnia II allowed this, so I see no reason why this wouldn't work on the newer handsets.

Incidentally, if you connect to your home network via WiFi and use a File Manager that allows you to browse the local network (EStrongs File Explorer, for instance) - then you should be able to just share your PC's media folder and watch avi and mp3 files by browsing to them and opening them on your device. No DLNA needed.
[Desire HD General] SupremeBeaver:
ah ok i see. but if i were to reverse things and try to stream a video which works on the ps3, but not on the DHD itself, would this work?
[Desire HD General] sub69:
There's no conversion done at all by either the PS3 or the DHD, DLNA is literally just a transport method, so you need to be streaming a file that is compatible on the receiving device. There are good media players available on Android to cover most filetypes though.

Of course, if you're trying to stream 1080p mkv files to your DHD, then you might struggle...
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Useful to know! :) Thanks for that.
[Desire HD General] badaas:
or just get one of these: http://www.expansys.com/hisense-108...our-downloaded-films-on-your-tv-in-hd-186127/

hisense has dlna and is brilliant bit of kit. youd just need a gaming relay wifi station / repeater or similar.

a wifi usb dongle should work too ;)

bit cheaper here: http://www.redstore.com/HISSDC001
[Desire HD General] Beards:
I have been using DLNA for a good few months now with both my Samsung GS & Acer Laptop which has DLNA onboard for streaming to my Samsung LED TV and find it worthwhile for both Music & Photo's. However, for Video you have to watch (pun not intended) what you are going to stream.

Any video file that has heavy encoding will make the buffer stream work overtime and often freeze or judder on the TV.

.MKV files are quite prone to this but DivX and MP4 files play quite well.

Even the phone's own camera if recorded at 720p will test your TV as it struggles to receive the data smoothly.

The first thing you will need to pick up the DLNA content from your phone is a media hub. This can either be a Laptop with DLNA, a PS3, or if you are lucky to have one of the recent LCD/LED TV's with DLNA built in you can stream the content direct to your TV.

In my setup I have a Samsung LED TV which is connected by Ethernet to my Router.

Whenever I want to stream data from the phone to the TV the first thing to do is on the phone run the DLNA App (on the SGS it is called AllShare).

P.S. There are other third-party DLNA titles available such as iMediashare Mobile and Twonky Mobile which will do the same job.

The next step is on the TV Remote use the 'Source' button and change it until you see on the TV your phone's name (mine again says Samsung Galaxy S).

Once you have selected the phone the TV's screen will now change to a Media Hub and give a menu system where you can then select Photo's, Music or Video.

Providing on your phone's DLNA App you have chosen to stream specific files these same files will then be available for displaying on your TV.

To control the content on your TV simply use the TV's Remote and Play/Pause/Stop/Back for previous/Fwd for next/etc.

At present we don't know anything on the App that will be on the DHD so it's going to be guesswork in exactly how data is selected for streaming.

Hope this helps.

Beards
[Desire HD General] jkoljo:
One question, you seem to know about this stuff, is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?
[Desire HD General] HTC_GLOW:
HTC Made DLNA adapter

Details and Images

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/35642/htc-dlna-bridge-gadget-tube
[Desire HD General] sub69:
Each DLNA receiver has it's own menu for browsing DLNA media that it has discovered. The menu is part of the software in the TV, PS3, XBox, HTC receiver, etc...

DLNA is a standard for the transmission and discovery of media, but once that connection has been made, you can stream/send all sorts - DivX, Mkv, WMV, Avi, MP3, Wav, Jpg, Bmp, etc, etc.

The receiving device will have it's own software, with it's own menu, and it's own supported filetypes and codecs.

If you have a DLNA TV, it may only be able to play DivX and MP3. Or maybe Mkv and Wav. It's up to the manufacturer and the software they've loaded...
[Desire HD General] Beards:
The menu you see on the TV is what is built in on the TV.

So it does not matter what software you use on the phone it will always be the same on the TV.

As an example ~ Both my Laptop (which also transmit media data) & Phone show exactly the same menu on the TV.
[Desire HD General] sub69:
Yeah... what he said!
[Desire HD General] Beards:
Looks like we were both posting the same content at the same time, only yours came through 1 minute before me. :)
[Desire HD General] Frolex:
http://htcdesire-hd.blogspot.com/2010/10/comparison-dlna-vs-hdmi-out.html

article on dlna of desire hd
[Desire HD General] Beards:
Well if you read the arguments which support DLNA over HDMI you can shoot all the points firmly down.

Point one he/she mentions you don't need to purchase an expensive Micro HDMI cable for the DHD with it's DLNA hardware.

That arguement is shot down when you then realize DLNA is limited to only new TV's that support DLNA.

You can then take that argument even further as HDMI is on practically all modern day TV's and the only way to use DLNA on a higher proportion on non-DLNA TV's is to purchase a DLNA adapter.

So.... where the argument expresses it is cheaper with DLNA in that you do not need to purchase an expensive Micro HDMI Cable you now find you have to spend even more an a DLNA adapter... This adapter from HTC is not cheap.

Finally he/she then goes on to say that with HDMI you have to use a cable whereas with DLNA it is all Wireless..... however, I can tell you that you simply can not stream HD content quick enough from the Phone to the TV, it stutters and locks frequently as it streams and empties the buffer.

Finally, with HDMI you can display not just Media content but Games and all..... however with DLNA you are restricted to just Music, Photo's & Video.

So, not as cut and straightforward as the reporter in the link claims.

b.t.w. ~ I hate it when web advertisers/bloggers/etc. use pictures of screens as opposed to the real thing.... No way in that blog is that a Desire HD screen.
[Desire HD General] mayurh:
dlna on the desire?

guys will this dlna work on a desire with the desire hdrom?

is dlna a software or does is it hardware specific?
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
What's probably the saddest thing is that lots of people won't even realise that their xbox360 or PS3 supports DLNA and will go on completely unaware that they already have the technology to watch their videos on their TVs/Projectors.
[Desire HD General] Stam2000:
It worked on my incredible when I had IncDoes HD Rom
[Desire HD General] mayurh:
That's great news tks alot
[Desire HD General] eddyrick:
it is possible to stream video that is streaming to the mobile phone?

e.g. I watch Sky Sports on mobile via Orange TV, is there a way to watch this on my laptop or tv ?

Thanks
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
This whole thing doesn't make sense!

It looks as if it's controlled FROM THE PHONE!

How can that be? Normally with DLNA the CLIENT (TV/PS3 etc) connects to the SERVER (Phone) to select what it wants to show.

How the hell does the phone control what's going on??
[Desire HD General] Beards:
The Phone tells the Media device (TV in this case) what it is allowed to see.

This is done using the DLNA software on the phone.

Once this info has been passed to the Media device all it then does is select the allowed files it wants to see.
[Desire HD General] GemeenAapje:
Take a look at the online demos though. It's as if the phone is controlling the TV.

I don't understand it. My PS3 has no way for other devices to control it over DLNA. It's a DLNA client and so doesn't receive control commands of any kind. It doesn't make sense at all.
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
There is an option in the Windows Media Player to be controlled remotely by DLNA devices and the only video I saw with the phone controlling the playback, it was a computer screen and not a TV that was being controled. Hopefuly when Expansys finally stops pushing the release date further :mad: and starts to deliver, I'll test it with a DLNA enabled TV which doesn't have the opiton of being remotely controlled by DLNA
[Desire HD General] Eddie1506:
So Desire HD is acting as a DLNA server, right?

Would something like http://xbmc.org be enough for Desire HD to be able to stream content to my laptop?
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
Do you now understand why I was having trouble? :) I'm as confused as you are about it. I've never seen media streaming working in this way before. It's quite odd.
[Desire HD General] Otterjasie:
I have a Netgear Readynas Duo and when I use ES File Explorer, I can log in, browse the files and folders on all the shares etc.

However, I can only open txt files? When I try to open some photo's (jpg) it says loading image and then I get the two arrows at the bottom with a black screen, i.e. no image. Looks like I can scroll between photos using the arrows but I can't actually see anything.

Videos (.avi) just says not supported which I don't understand as I thought the Desire HD supports avi?

Any help would be appreciated...thanks.
[Desire HD General] Otterjasie:
Can none of you clever people help with this?
[Desire HD General] ramteid3:
Hm, I'm new to this. But from what I understand there are different DLNA Certified Device Classes (see wikipedia, for example). Couldn't it be that the DHD acts as a Mobile Digital Media Server AND Mobile Digital Media Controller? So, having implemented the second profile, it would be understandable for me that the DHD could control what is played back on a Digital Media Renderer (the TV, for example)
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
So has anyone managed to figure this out yet.

So far the only thing I've managed to get working is playing back an MP3 from my Windows 7 computer running TVersity.

I can see my computer and browse all the media, but I cannot playback any videos (not compatible apparently?).

I've not managed to get it to play any media on any other devices though...

So far the feature seems nearly useless...
[Desire HD General] Otterjasie:
I've managed to play back a movie from my NAS which I converted to mp4. Still don't know how to play avi files without converting them.

Apparently you can mount the share using cifs manager but I don't think our kernels support cifs and I don't know how to amend the kernel...to be honest I'm too scared to try.

But once mounted you can use Rockplayer to play your avi files.
[Desire HD General] dmh2010:
I have been trying to use the DNLA feature in my Desire HD in conjunction with my PS3 over wifi, but so far to no avail. I tried it by selecting a photo in the Desire HD's "Gallery" app, then clicked "Menu -> Select Player", which then searches for "players" i.e. clients. It only ever sees the phone itself however, the PS3 has never shown up. Similarly, from the PS3 side, I selected "Search for Media Servers" under the "Photos" XMB menu item, but it never finds the Desire HD.

I often stream media from my laptop to my PS3 without issue, so I know the problem is unlikely to be within the PS3.

Has anyone here successfully streamed any media from a Desire HD to a PS3? If yes please let us all know how you did it ! :)

Thanks
[Desire HD General] brokenworm:
u can use DLNA in WMP 11 on xp ..easy to setup nothing new
[Desire HD General] nxtwrld:
I just tested Desire HD DLNA with my WD TV Live HD. This is what I found out:

No setup or pairing was required on WD (just turning it on)

There is an app called Connected Media in the apps drawer. Starting it offers three items: Music, Pictures, Video. Then I can select the media I want to play and it streams it from my phone right to my WD.

The format decoding is done on the phone itself as I am able to play videos shot with the camera and no divx or xvid movies from the card (i can play them from the usb, so they are supported by WD)

Everything works very perfectly. I have not figured out how to browse phone media from the WD box using DLNA, I do this using UPnP and the free Twonky Server app.
[Desire HD General] badaas:
just in case people need the htc box for their tv to support DLNA, this is a MUCH better option:

http://www.redstore.com/HISSDC001
[Desire HD General] wakers:
Same here :-(
[Desire HD General] farazfastian:
I've also tried everything but can't see my Desire HD in PS3 and vice versa.

Been searching around but couldn't see any example of PS3 and DHD working together :(
[Desire HD General] BryPeps:
I had the same problem but have now managed to connect to the PS3 and my laptop using Twonky mobile. Whilst I have no problem streaming anything from my phone to my PS3 or laptop now, I am only able to stream music and pictures from my PS3/Laptop to my phone, divx and avi files won't playback when streamed to the phone; although the one mpeg4 file i had seemed to stream to the phone ok.
[Desire HD General] farazfastian:
Hows the performance via twonky? especially in browsing photos?
[Desire HD General] vibez:
Just been playing with this today and managed stream my video collection from my pc running windows 7 to my DHD. It seems windows has DLNA built in :)
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
This is already established...but what I want to know is what format your video collection is in? The issue we're all having is that we can't get it to play back DivX or XviD files - are yours all in MP4?
[Desire HD General] wakers:
Has anyone managed to get the DHD to register with the PS3 direct or vice versa ?
[Desire HD General] vibez:
Yes i'm afraid it was just mp4 videos that streamed
[Desire HD General] genab.de:
xbox360 works not with Desire Hd and DLNA

only Windows 7 plays the movies via wifi & DLNA from my Desire HD

but xbox 360 dont find my Desire HD

any suggestions?
[Desire HD General] genab.de:
now it works...

But first i have to set up the Media Center Funtionality...

so you need a Windows 7 Home Premium with Media Center oder Windows 7 Ultimate with Mediacenter or a Windows Vista with Media Center....

than the Media Center Extender starts on your xbox360

than, you can use the built in (HTC) DLNA Software to see your Videos, Fotos and Musik....

the Videos are not really smoth

first i tested with 800x400) not very smooth....

that i tryed a Video in 720p (recorded on my Desire HD) this works better....

so, i can confirm: HTC Desire HD can use xbox360 Media Center extender to play my stuff.

i dont can search on my xbox360 on my desire

but i can "send" my stuff to the xbox

so my Desire works like a remote and Media sender... at the same time..

i cant can send my Facebook Pictures and my Flicker Pictures to my XBOX360..... but this is nos so important

mybe i am the first one on the Planet :-)

i also tried mobile Twonky Media Server (i installed via Android Market)

this Software only works as a Media Server - so i must search my files i want to see on my xbox, but it only works with Musik and Fotos... the System dont find any Videos (i only tested it with 800x400 Videos, i will test 720p Videos i recorded with my Desire HD)

another Software is Twonky Beam - this works mor than the HTC Software, with this Software you send the Files to yout XBOX.. but you can only install mobile Twonky Server oder Twonky Beam....
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
So using twonky mobile I've managed to stream media from my phone to my ps3. Music, pics and vids all played ok.

Again, still not yet managed to play back videos from my computer on my phone yet...
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
Me too. I know one time I did set up WMP to act as DLNA server (managed to stream media to my TV), but now neither my TV nor my DHD can see the server. So I downloaded a commercial server called 'Mezzmo'. It has 15 days trial period, so you can check it out. The important thing is to switch off transcoding when streaming to the DHD. The reason is that the server detects the phone as 'Generic Device' and doesn't know what file types are supported. Your videos should be .mp4 with x264 encoding for the video stream and aac encoding for the audio. Bitrates of about 2000kbps work fine and look perfect. The other good thing about the commercial server is that the streamed file no longer is limited to 1GB size. With WMP I only managed to stream the first 1GB of any video file and then it stopped. Weird, huh?
[Desire HD General] TML1504:
DNLA works perfect here between my windows seven (x86) and my desire hd!

now a short guide on how to configure it properly:

to stream music, videos or pictures to win7

open windows media player

switch to library view, open the menu "stream" and tick "allow remote control of my player"

open the preinstalled app "connected media" on the dhd, choose what to stream

and viola - it will work! :)

to stream videos (which formats i'm investigating at the moment) from win7 to dhd:

it is important that you've tried once to connect to your pc with either htc music player (slide to "connected media" tab in the artist/album... menue, there should be an entry with the name of your pc on which media center or media player runs(!): click on it! you should now get the message that you are not allowed to connect)!

after that, open "network and sharing center" on your pc, click on "change advanced sharing settings" on the left-hand-side menue, scroll down to "media streaming". if media streaming is not activated do this first. now, click on "choose media streaming options", then choose "all networks" on the "show devices on" drop-down menue (depends on your network config, in my case it's a wlan router which connects both devices), scroll down to an entry with shows as "unknown device", choose "allowed" from the drop-down menue right of it

done!

this works at least for me like a charm, i'm able to stream videos, music and pictures between the two devices without noticeable lags!

and i've to say that i'm bloody impressed from these features, pretty cool to record a 720p movie on the dhd and stream it to the monitor, beamer etc. a few moments later... :D

hope this will help someone!

regards,

markus
[Desire HD General] Protongti:
just tried this and it worked flawlessly. I just enabled the remote control on window media player and didn't need to do the other settings. The streaming is quite Impressive. Now just need to stream onto ps3 and that would be awesome. Great find

U
[Desire HD General] makaveli25:
i can stream to win7 and from win7 to my dhd, but i've not found any evidence of it working with the ps3, there plenty of people asking the same thing

so why is the ps3 so different, if dlna is supposed to be some sort of standard, why cant i get it to work, its a little frustrating trying to work it out.
[Desire HD General] dazultra2000:
To all you recent people who are claiming to have got it working - what video formats have you managed to play back on your phone? Any Divx or Xvid?
[Desire HD General] who knows:
has anyone had any looking connecting their hd to the ps3? nothing shows up here
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
It seems that there are different client types defined in DLNA. The stock player supports only those that are able to be controlled remotely. Playback on PS would be possible if Sony updates its software or if you install a proper DLNA server on the DHD.
[Desire HD General] Stellios:
Can this be done with windows vista and WMP11? Ive tried but cant get it to play ball.
[Desire HD General] folgui:
Exactly. With iMediaShare APK installed on DHD, the PS3 finds it as a media server, with default DLNA it doesn't find/work.

Regards, folgui.
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
Does it support video streaming? In the description it says only music and photos.

It should be possible with WMP11 no matter what version of Windows you are running. However I couldn't make it work no matter what I've tried. I know it works because I managed to get it working before and it just won't work now. Maybe something I've installed messed up with the services :(.
[Desire HD General] thamrx:
I got 2 DLNA supporting TV's but I cant get it to work on both of them.

(Philips 32PFL8404 & Philips 37PFL9603D)

The Desire HD just can't find the TV's.
[Desire HD General] stefan.lilov:
iMediaShare Premium is able to stream video as well. However, there are some compatibility issues with some media players which are unable to play native mobile video formats so check your players' capabilities or contact iMediaShare support.
[Desire HD General] stefan.lilov:
Have you tried iMediaShare available in Android market? What is the output?
[Desire HD General] tekmobile:
I use my popcorn hour c-200 this works just fine for pictures but does nothing for videos shot with the camera and its all controlled by the phone all I need is the popcorn hour turned on
[Desire HD General] seba84_2005:
DLNA work well with samsung lcd tv ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCpFrFUzWw
[Desire HD General] Just-A-Nick:
Hi,

[btw: my first post to this forum, I'll get my DHD within the next couple of days :p]

The reason for that is that the Philips PFL TVs are Digital Media Players (DMP), but not Digital Media Renderers (DMR). It has nothing to do with the DHD but is a lack of functionality of the TV sets.

Maybe there is some confusion about the term "DLNA certified": it does not tell whether a certified device is a Digital Media Server, Player, Renderer or Controller. These different DLNA device classes are explained, e.g., in Wikipedia (look for DLNA there - sorry, I'm not yet allowed to use outside links in this forum ;))

Hope this helps,

J-A-N
[Desire HD General] tnjfitzy:
I got my phone connected to the pc fine thru my WLAN router but is there anyway to transfer songs to your phone thru WLAN.
[Desire HD General] kmoon:
Yeah.. same here

My PCH C200 can see the TAB but can't play anything

My TAB can see the PCH but can only play images...

Too bad.
[Desire HD General] choasty:
Anyone got the DHD working with PS3 yet? Been trying for a while but no dice...