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[Wildfire Android Development] Eddster3000:
Don't blame HTC for the design of their firmware, they are just protecting their assests by making a HBOOT that has security to it. OK we all want the ability do do more with our phones than what the manufacturers wanted us to have but again it is not HTC fault that it is taking a long time for independent Dev's to beat the system. In my opinion the Wildfire is quite a cheap phone (in the U.K anyway) which has alot of potential and I think it's a very good phone. Maybe you should research which phone you buy before purchase so that you know that you have the ability to mod it how you want to.

I dont want to flame you but I think you shouldn't say you won't buy a brand of phone just because you have no patience to wait for what is a small group of devs to beat security features. HTC probably spend huge amounts and have vast resoure to be able to lock down their products but the dev's that work on rooting and custom roms have little resource and only spare time.

Be Patient or learn how to program and offer your assistance to help the process move faster!
[Wildfire Android Development] StratOS_HTC:
Nice

Nice. Still waiting for it ... If we wait so far ...

Good job guys
[Wildfire Android Development] :
I have gone through the entire thread once, and really some nice fun out there on page #14. NICE THREAD

I think im just asking a numb question after seeing few numb questions out there.

---Im aware that alpha rev 2 is not meant for rooting phones, and i know that it won't root hboot 1.01

---Im aware that it is meant to make the security flag to S-OFF on ALREADY ROOTED DEVICES (with custom recovery).

---Im aware that presently it is not compatible with wildfire HBOOT 1.01

---It says that the only requirement of it is that THE DEVICE IT SHOULD WORK WITH IS PREVIOUSLY ROOTED (to be more precise with custom recovery).

Now, my question is,

-----Is it not compatible with wildfire (with hboot 1.01) just because it is not rooted yet [asking this because it says the only requirement is the device should be previously rooted, and i didn't found this in the previous posts] . Sooner or later unrevoked roots the newer wildfire, and what about the compatibility after this root by unrevoked.

-----What about its compatibility with desire with newer froyo hboot, since it is already rooted.

And if the answer to my 1st Question is NO, then will it take a long gap for the alpharev between the compatibilities for hboot 0.80 and hboot 1.01

sorry if it is really soo numb.
[Wildfire Android Development] :
can someone summarise, in short, the advantages of making alpharev s-off OVER a rooted phone (with custom recovery + s-on)

simply saying, the advantages of alpharev s-off OVER custom rom s-on.

pls donot consider over unrooted phone.
[Wildfire Android Development] dinodics:
Read here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1041530 , post #3
[Wildfire Android Development] ShyamSasi:
Maybe this helps :)
[Wildfire Android Development] :
Eddster3000, I don't think you are right.

There are no "assets" to protect. Android Froyo is open source. You could argue someone wants to reverse-engineer the bootloader, but where's the benefit in that? It's tailored to every model of the device, so reverse-engineering it would not give you much competitive advantage. It is only taken apart to unlock it if it's locked down.

Yes, it is fault of HTC that unlocking takes so long. They locked it down in the first place. They had a choice - they could have left it open to make life easier for ROM developers. Devs shouldn't have to "beat the system" in the first place.

You are right. They spend huge amounts of money on protection that's not wanted by the modders. They are spending that money on this instead of something more useful - it gives them no realistic benefits, annoys people and wastes resources.

Devs spend time and money on defeating protection none of us (modders) wanted in the first place. And again, same as in HTC's case - they are spending that time on this instead of something like side projects or new ideas. They shouldn't have to.

The research on removing the protections on Wildfire requires both knowledge and hardware that are well beyond the reach of an average user. If you don't have these, you can help by giving feedback, but that doesn't really help a lot - you have to make something to test in the first place.

Would you buy a car that refuses to start if you change the seat belts to stronger aftermarket ones? I wouldn't. At least not until I have a way to work around that.

All devices should be open by default. If the user wants to mod the phone, fine - this voids the warranty. But never lock the users out of their own hardware. They bought it, meaning all control of the device should be transferred into the user's hands at the time of purchase, including control of bootloader's S-ON/S-FF flag.
[Wildfire Android Development] Eddster3000:
I guess that told me then lol

But seriously I don't mind being given constructive critisism... I'm here to receive ideas as well as impart them so I will consider your points
[Wildfire Android Development] :
edit: never mind .................
[Wildfire Android Development] pan_pietrek:
Waaaaay off topic here guys! Feel like chatting? Hit irc.freenode.net #wildfire.
[Wildfire Android Development] nhnt11:
That's ##wildfire ;)
[Wildfire Android Development] Villis87:
Could this come as an Easter egg's present? :p
[Wildfire Android Development] xAdaM--:
1.01 patch has been released? In the sense that it is now possible to root Wildfire's with HBoot 1.01 without using the XTC Clip thing? (I don't really follow this part of the forum as I do not own a wildfire myself but wanting to root it for a family member). After searching the forum and google I can't find any news on rooting hboot 1.01?...
[Wildfire Android Development] Lloir:
Chances are higher of Jesus resurrecting than AlphaRev this weekend :D:D:D
[Wildfire Android Development] 3xeno:
It was sarcasm. Never mind.
[Wildfire Android Development] xAdaM--:
Hmm the sarcasm was poorly implied to be honest. Basically saying "You can't read or write because it is now possible to root with the latest hboot". Would've made sense had there actually have been a patch released and I had been too blind to see it. But it hadn't...

Anyways back on topic, anyone have any ideas about when there next update for other devices might be coming along? Seems like they've not touched it in ages.
[Wildfire Android Development] :
Just a stupid question: when i make my wildfire S-OFF with alpharev will i be able to make it back to S-ON?(just if i need to take mu phone to warranty service)
[Wildfire Android Development] Villis87:
As far as i know, this can be done by flashing a version with another hboot's version ;)
[Wildfire Android Development] :
afaik when s-off it doesnt check what you flash.
[Wildfire Android Development] 3xeno:
Answer from Alpharev's Website:

Will my phone stay S-OFF forever?

Yes and no. As soon as you decide to flash a stock RUU that has a HBOOT update in it, this hacked HBOOT will be overwritten.

You do have the option to remove the HBOOT update from the rom.zip inside the RUU. Since your phone no longer checks signatures, you could easily do that.

Also, you then still have the option to flash custom recovery, or different kernels using the fastboot functions described above (fastboot flash, et al).
[Wildfire Android Development] vadash:
is alplharev actually working in WildFire?, in website it says we have to wait....
[Wildfire Android Development] 3xeno:
Yes it does, but, as stated on the website, it is yet to be released.
[Wildfire Android Development] vadash:
but in website says we need version 2.0, with 1.8 dont work isn´t it?anyone knows when ver 2.0 is going to be released?
[Wildfire Android Development] 3xeno:
No, 1.8 doesn't work. And no again, there is no exact specific date posted yet.
[Wildfire Android Development] f0xy:
Sorry to mither :/ ... hows things going with alpharev?
[Wildfire Android Development] EchoVelocity:
Any approximate ETA?
[Epic 4G General] scriz:
As asked in the subject......

Anyone?
[Epic 4G General] LordLugard:
XDA app doesn't do that for me, but Taptalk does.

Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...
[Epic 4G General] yellowxboy:
yeah i get the FC for tapatalk
[Epic 4G General] APOLAUF:
Constant force-closes on the XDA app for me - though lately it's been better. Also, it constantly gets stuck while loading - I have to hit the "back" button and tap again, and it'll work.

I find that I get fewer force-closes if I have WiFi on.
[Epic 4G General] rmartinez2:
I get it in the XDA app also although i doubt this may be it but I've replied to a few posts and when I reply with softkeyboard it seems to send with no issue. If i use the hardwarekeyboard even if i close it then hit submit i seem to still get the FC. Im not sure if thats something to look into cuz it may be the length of the post also. When i have something short and simple i use the softkeyboard and when its long i use the hardware one so maybe happening on longer posts/replies???
[Epic 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
Using tapatalk. No fc's but it gets stuck alot.
[Epic 4G General] PokeAsheep:
No problems here so far, have been using mostly physical keyboard. Though I am usin swype right now to see if it makes ay difference

*fends off fc with a sharp pointed stick*

(This 5 minute thing is kinda annoying....that's what I get for lurking for so long :( Stupid old tp1 and hating xda...)

Tg4 my epic :D
[Epic 4G General] 265ada:
I get the forecloses to makes me wonder if I an going to get them when I write this lol
[Desire Themes and Apps] venkig:
I have ROM Manager Premium. I downloaded AmonRA recovery and put the same in the root of the SD card. When I open ROM Manager it says "No Flashable recovery found" and Flash Alternate Recovery is disabled.

Is there a specific name I need to rename the recovery for the ROM Manager to pick it up or is there something else I can do to flash alternate recovery from ROM Manager ?
[Desire Themes and Apps] ghostrider08:
same question here ...
[Desire Themes and Apps] h3llb3nd4:
You will have you flash the recovery using unREVoked (how-to here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=709146), or Splash Flasher (How-to Here: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638).
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] astasdf:
EVO based kernels are nice :)

less g-sensor freeze, less battery use, etc...

but I can't use 4pin headset button T_T

non EVO based kernels work fine.

I want to know what's going on

p.s. sorry for my bad english :(
[Vibrant Android Development] jereader:
Before everyone jumps on me for posting this in the dev section, let me please say that I did ask this in Q&A and all anyone could come up with was "do a nadroid backup." So, I am purposely asking in here now.

If there is a guide somewhere that could take me through the process, please post a link. If it's simple enough, post a quick walkthrough here for me, please.

I just want to make an odin-flashable backup of my entire phone that I can flash back to when I hose things up.

Any help is appreciated.
[Vibrant Android Development] youneek:
I tried to make one actually. It seems there is a problem when you try to write back to the phone. Odin will fail part of the way through. I've been trying to look through everything and figure out exactly what the issue is but theres not much odin documentation...
[Vibrant Android Development] jereader:
I just found this:

http://androidforums.com/behold-2-all-things-root/54424-creating-custom-roms-backups-odin.html

It's for the behold 2, which shouldn't really matter, but could make some difference (I think...), and is geared for making roms for distribution. What I'm after is actually a backup for personal use only.
[Vibrant Android Development] ags29:
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[Vibrant Android Development] BrandonB1218:
I'm not trying to start an argument or anything but why is that arrogant? I'm trying to think of how that could be construed as arrogant. I don't think it was a comment made in excessive pride or self-importance.

Also if he hadn't said that, he would have been bombarded with "wrong forum nub", and he already explained the "right" forum was no help.
[Vibrant Android Development] ^Fs:
+1 sir, +1
[Vibrant Android Development] speedysilwady:
OP try changing the title to Think Tank instead of a Question, because this is a pretty good idea and yall are rounding up info on how it can be done. that way noone will bash you...well most people lol
[Vibrant Android Development] jereader:
Thanks for the tip... Noted and acted upon.
[Vibrant Android Development] BrandonB1218:
Now that you've explained it, I do understand why you said it and I do agree with it. I'm not excusing it or anything, but I will say that the Development forum seems to be a lot more helpful than the other Vibrant forums I've been to.

On topic, I would definitely like to see a custom ODIN backup.
[Vibrant Android Development] jereader:
I really don't see what is arrogant about my posting here. I asked in Q&A and all anyone could offer was: "Do something other than what you are asking how to do." If I wanted to know about doing a nandroid backup, I would have googled it. Believe me when I say that I have searched and searched and searched, and the documentation specific to what I am trying to accomplish is rare if it even exists. So, I am posing my question to an area of people who generally are more knowledgeable about such things. I even took the initiative to post something that might be helpful.
[Vibrant Android Development] eugene373:
To make a Custom ODIN, all you have to do is edit the system how you would like it.. Then dd the system image like this

Next you will need a utility called Cygwin if in Windows, not needed for linux..

Command would be like so..

This is an example if you have the system / cache / zImage
[Vibrant Android Development] frankencat:
Eugene, I wanted to try this and the .tar file was created successfully but is it ok if I get these warnings/errors when creating the JPL.tar?

$ tar --format=ustar -cf JPK.tar factoryfs.rfs cache.rfs zImage

tar: cache.rfs: Cannot stat: No such file or directory

tar: zImage: Cannot stat: No such file or directory

tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[Vibrant Android Development] inverseflux:
I'm guessing a similar command needs to be run for each type, but not sure what it is... damn curious. Would be great to Odin back to my current ROM state via Odin and not back to JFD, Kies update to JI5.... lol just flash and done.

Starting to see how apk files are structured as well... might make a dev outta me yet! Least a "MOD"... ;)
[Vibrant Android Development] eugene373:
You have to define you export path to the folder you are putting the images into
[Vibrant Android Development] inverseflux:
How do you generate the zImage and cache.rfs files?

Edit: Reading the wiki...

Edit Edit: That was wrong as well.

Making a zImage:

dd if=/dev/block/bml7 of=/sdcard/bml7.img

mv bml7.img zImage

tar --format=ustar -cf kernel-vibrant-version.tar zImage

md5sum -t kernel-recovery-vibrant-version.tar >> kernel-recovery-vibrant-version.tar

mv kernel-recovery-vibrant-version.tar kernel-recovery-vibrant-version.tar.md5

Making a factoryfs.rfs:

dd if=/dev/block/stl9 of=/sdcard/factoryfs.rfs bs=4096

Any ideas on how to make dbdata.rfs param.lfs cache.rfs and modem.bin dumps?
[Vibrant Android Development] jereader:
Eugene, thank you for your help. Quick question: Is that first command from an adb shell?

I have cygwin installed, and hope to try this out soon.
[Vibrant Android Development] demo23019:
jereader i take back what i said about just using nandroid, it was my inexperience with Odin....messed with it more today.

Now to try to make an Odin backup
[Vibrant Android Development] jereader:
Where is the wiki you are reading this from? I would definitely like to check it out.
[Vibrant Android Development] inverseflux:
I would really love to know how these dumps are done. It's one piece of this that prevents me from starting to break my own/other peoples stuff for fun. I can see the device names in that wiki, but unknown as to what i need to run against it to image that data.

Sorry for the screwy URL, to new to post them...

forum[dot]xda-developers[dot]com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_Series
[Nexus One General] 68pontiac:
Okay, I rooted my N1 with Universal Androot and removed the stock Froyo Twitter app without backing it up. (Shame on me.) Now, I can't update to 2.2.1 because of it (a status 7 error complaining about not finding /system/app/Twitter.apk)

I have, at the advice of some other forum posts I've read, installed Twitter from Android Market and backed it up to the sd. Renamed it Twitter.apk and used the Terminal Emulator to copy it to /system/app. That worked and the file is there, but the update still will not apply. Do I also need a .odex file? Is there any way to update at this point?

Any help would be super appreciated. THANKS!
[Nexus One General] fliint:
if this is the new twitter app would you be kindly enough to share it..lol

Sent from my Nexus One
[Nexus One General] ilostchild:
grab it from an older update like from frf91 update.. then do adb push /system/app

if you cant do that...

put the twitter app in sdcard then go to terminal and do

cp /sdcard/twitter /system/app

reboot then apply it.. i had trouble with amazon and i did it that way and it worked well
[Nexus One General] 68pontiac:
That's exactly what I did. It didn't work.

I'd love to pull the app from a FRF91 build but I have no idea how that's done.
[Nexus One General] danger-rat:
Flash a GAPPS update (try the on listed with CM6)
[Nexus One General] 68pontiac:
It looks as though I can't flash the GAPPS without unlocking the bootloader and installing a new recovery, correct? I'm really not that motivated if that's the case. I appreciate the information.
[Nexus One General] danger-rat:
OK, just download the GAPPS, then use something like estrongs file manager to unzip to a folder of choice (with estrongs, longpress and select extract).

The Twitter apk will be in the extract folder/system/app. Just click the apk to install...
[Nexus One General] danger-rat:
BTW, if you have root, you may as well install a custom recovery (without touching the bootloader).

Easy way with ROM Manager (has Clockworkmod and Amon-Ra), or use adb if you wanna learn something...
[Nexus One General] 68pontiac:
Thanks for the tips. I'll check it out tomorrow when I can make a data transfer. I am doubtful that installing from the zip will solve much since I already loaded the app and its already in the system folder.

could someone verify whether or not the Twitter app has a corresponding odex file that I might need?
[Nexus One General] gqkevyn:
I ran into the same problem when I removed Amazon Mp3, but I was impatient so I ended up reflashing the stock rom and then updating.
[Nexus One General] ilostchild:
There is a thread that has all n1 updates look for it and download froyo fr91 update then unzip it go to system app and look for twitter apk then put in sdcard and do commands again .. I tried to do with market twitter and it failed so I did it the way I'm explained andnworkd
[Nexus One General] 68pontiac:
[SOLVED]

You sir, have saved my life. I swear I used that same exact Twitter.apk but I must not have. I used 3 different apks all with the same result but the one in the zip I found somewhere in this forum worked perfectly. I appreciate all the help and feel like such a 'tard for not trying something so seemingly simple earlier.
[Nexus One General] ilostchild:
No problem man.. glad you got it working.. now reroot the phone and back up all the apps from then phone.. doin adb pull /system/app
[General Questions and Answers] kevin5fan:
Hi GUys, I'm looking for a ROM for my HTC Hero.

I am currently using VillianRom I think.

But I couldn't use my Copilot that i bought so I decided to change a ROM

Can Anyone Suggest Me A Fast ROM any Kind Of Theme, and it isn't a non oem rom.

Please Help Me Thank You!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aman11dhanpat:
Hi all

okay today i am thinking to upgrade my firmware by using default kies upgrade option

but i have a doubt that weather it will delete all of my data?

and if it deletes it recommend me a good backup software (free/paid) which i can use to backup almost every data in phone memory as well as internal memory card
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
yes do the backup

last time i flashed, it wiped out everything

titanium backup is the best for backup

or Astro File Manager which comes with a backup option
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Silencer_007:
Hey all, I just updated from Cognition 2.1.1 to 2.1.4 and so far, it's a great experience. I installed it after a fresh wipe and restore thanks to Odin, and I like a lot of the new features.

One thing I do NOT like thou is that I can't get my MobileAP to connect to my X-Box anymore. Now, I alrady adjusted the MTU using terminal Emulator to 1500 (and also tried 1492 at a friend's suggestion) and while my X-Box "sees" the connection, it won't get on XBL.

Please, this is my gaming solution for right now. It worked great, and I need it to work again or I'll go mad from not being able to play Nazi Zombies. Thanks in advance.
[Android Themes] Edubyah:
Hello all,this is just a theme I put together by mixing the themes I enjoyed most. I would like to give credit to Mark's theme,Superfly by HTCclay and the original artist for Spinx battery and 3g round signal icons. This a morph so put on SDcard and use Metamorph,if you get an error message when it unzips just return to Metamorph and pick existing theme then the xml. I'm pretty new to sharing this stuff and don't know exactly how to zip so Metamorph works from the unzip new theme command. So far I have tested this on Chromatic,CM6 stable and nightly. I personally run it on Biffmod 2.0 leaving like a jet plain,love this ROM just not the plain. This should work on any FROYO ROM without the 200 battery images.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chadz70:
I rooted my EVO 4G yesterday. Everything was going fine until I uninstalled some of Sprint's factory software. This caused my system to behave very weird so I decided to flash it back to the OTA software.

I followed the instructions on android central, but unfortunately the PC36IMG.zip file they tell you to download and install is Android 2.1. I'm now stuck on 2.1, and the OTA update doesn't work. I am new to this and accept that this is my fault:o, but I was wondering if anyone had instructions on how to update to 2.2?

I tried downloading and installing HTC OTA Froyo 2.2, *FINAL*, build 3.36.651.6 (Rooted) Odexed from this site, but the bootloader screen won't let me install this file. Any help would be greatly appreciated. THANKS!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cayniarb:
What root method did you use?

Also, you can't flash ROMs from bootloader, you need to be in recovery -- when you get to the bootloader screen, go to recovery, press power. Also, make sure that you have a recovery installed (ClockworkMod or Amon_Ra).

From recovery, you should be able to flash to any 2.2 ROM you want (assuming that you have full root/nand unlocked/s-off/whatever else people want to call it).

Also, be prepared to be flamed for posting this in the development section (as opposed to the Q&A).
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chadz70:
Yeah, should have done it in Q&A. Sorry for that. Again, noob :-)

I initially used Unrevoked. I had ClockworkMod installed before reverting back to 2.1. It's gone now. Should I just use Unrevoked again to reinstall it?