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[Windows Phone 7 General] federaly:
Grassy

I think you mean a court yard. One which you can freely enter or freely leave. Seriously if the first thing that pops into your head when thing of walled gardens are prisons...I'd talk to someone about that...

I think most people complaining now are not thinking long term.

Yes the OS is simpler and 'less' business and PPC focused. But. Think of it like this.

Start with simple yet powerful OS with enough feature to hook some power-users and easy enough for the average consumer to pick it up.

Now this is where the strategy plays out over the years to come. You train you base customer with update that over time make the OS more powerful and more feature rich much like PPC that they don't even know they're using a smartphone because you have "trained" them.

Sound familiar. It was the iPhone tactic from when it was released. Everyone knows the feature the iPhone4 has now could have existed years ago but they are "training" their user base.

Analogy time: If someone handed you an Indie car (PPC) and said race it you would be so confused by all the buttons and controls and not know how to handle it effectively.

But.

If they handed you a Suzuki Swift (WP7 (No idea why I thought of this car: P)) and said they will teach you to drive you'll have no worries buying from them again and buying a slightly (updates) more powerful car next time.
[Windows Phone 7 General] addicus:
I am a writer/musician so I copy and paste words a lot. I also copy/paste links, etc... when I am sending them out to people on twitter/facebook.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Omega Ra:
copy and paste is already slotted to come out in an update in early 2011 from what I read...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/copy-and-paste-coming-to-windows-phone-7-in-early-2011/
[Windows Phone 7 General] addicus:
I think the real issue is this site has been inundated with people who are frustrated that the world has been inundated with the simplicity of the iphone and those who have think it is a real "smartphone". These people are either pissed wm6.5 has almost no outside support beyond sites like XDA and have become avid "Androidheads". The other set of people here are people who hate Apple and support Google in every venture no matter what.

There are few people here like myself who just love WM 6.5 (6.5.x). I don't dual boot Android on my HD2. I flash WM roms and have taught my wife the awesomeness of a full fledge mature system on an extremely high powered (for now) piece of hardware. While I flash my HD2, use SPB Mobile Shell to configure it, do registry tweaks and explore, my wife uses Sense on hers and just does the stuff people want to do on their phones (calls, texts, internet, Bing navigation, weather, games, ebooks).

Where I don't want to move to WP7 until we can really get into it (hack it a little, etc...) my wife would love it if I switched her HD2 out for a HD7 in my opinion. The system is simply more fluid and simple. She already destroys her parents and brother with their iP4's. They don't even show us their phones anymore. She would go all bravado on them with a HD7. I think MS is doing the right thing and starting the brand with the base user in today's market which is the general public. Why have an operating system that is so intimidating that only high end power users want it? That's a bad business model that has proven to fail.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Wolfas:
You are not the only one, heh :) This is how I personally imagine real Pocket PC
[Windows Phone 7 General] devis:
I don't buy it.

some 90% of the world's computers run on Windows. Apple had a relatively small market share.

It would stand to reason that if you know how to use a PC (albeit different user levels exist) a WM device would be just as easy (or hard, user level implied)

I think where Microsoft went wrong was that they tried to put too much in the PC to begin with. Fed up the user base with constant updates, patches and the like and the damn thing just didn't work right even after all of those things were done. Same story with WM...

Enter Apple.

They didn't train! Before the iPod, Apple was nothing more than a college only computer due to their deals with these institutions, and a graphic designer's tool due to their onboard videocards being, sad to say, better than the average PC.

But the mp3 came around, Apple saw something, created the iPod which was a genius of a device for the time. And slowly, as the iPod user base grew, its reliability was translated into Apple product reliability. Hence the fake idea that Apple is better.

One of my users, way too particular about his computing platform, decides to buy a Mac for home use. 5 months into it while he's *****ing about his office PC, I ask how the Mac is doing. He said it was good at first. Now it's just as bad as this PC.

In the computing world, just like in the world post 9/11, and I'm sorry to make this analogy, people have decided that trading away some of their choices for the illusion of safety is what must be done. What happens in actuality is something different. Patriot Act, wiretappings, people held without due process and in the mobile phone word we have substandard devices that look good on paper but limit what you can do. Pay more, do less.

No offense to anyone but any Joe Blow with 200 dollars can now go and pick up a smartphone. And suddenly he/she feels smart cause they can Facebook and Twitter and download some fart app on the bus while going to work at the Burger Flip Central fast food restaurant.

I'll tell you exactly what's happening to the smartphone. It's only as smart as the user.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Biges:
yagermaster is right. New "smart" OSes start to resemble "dumphones", they are more and more restrictive. Currently I use WM6.1 and I look forward to some "smart" mobile OS like MeeGo (but it seems unlikely that the current market situation is favourable to the system).
[Windows Phone 7 General] addicus:
Of course we don't hate what the newer OS's do, we hate what they don't do. Sadly the average user has no care about it. What will happen is someone will come up with a phone that "just works" for us geeks.

Will we still be pissed if we can crack the WP7 OS and allow the things we want (bluetooth transfer, sd card switching w/o a hard reset, etc...)? At this point are we still considering it a dumbphone?

I'm not being a smart ass. I really want to know how people feel.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aletsm:
Hello,

I just got a Captivate from AT&T, quickly I found that i need to press the lock key tens of times a day as I set display off at 30 sec.

Unblocking the phone does not bother me but I am concern if this sooner than later will break the lock button, so I would like to hear your comments with the 15 days I have to return the phone.

Also, is there any app that let me turn off the screen and re-activate the phone just touching the screen.

Thanks
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kusanagisan18:
Maybe try an application called Screebl?

It won't activate the screen when you touch it, but it will keep it alive while you're holding you're phone. So you can set your screen timeout to 15 seconds, but while your phone is tilted a certain way, it'll keep the screen on. It'll at least save you the need to push the power button to turn the screen back on while you're using it.

You might also be able to use Tasker to wake up the screen when the phone detects motion or held a certain way (but i'm not too sure about this)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alphadog00:
I had an iphone for 2 years and pressed the home key for everything... on and home - so I am not to worried about the captivate.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aletsm:
Thanks for the comments
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Unhelpful:
"no lock" on the market can disable the lock screen so that you can unlock with just the button. There is also a setting for the time before the screen turns off, I find one minute much better than thirty seconds.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brynn85:
I may be missing it but was hoping for a way that you could set the phone's screen to go off after X amount of time (say 1 minute) but still be able to just press the lock button to turn it back on), but for it to turn off and also passcode lock after Y amount of time (maybe 5 minutes) so that you don't have to either have the passcode lock off completely or on completely, but set on a certain amount of time...

I probably just made no sense, lol
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n19htmare:
you mean just like the iphone where passcode doesn't kick in till after the phone's screen has been off for a certain period of time (that you pick in settings).
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brynn85:
Ummm yep, that's pretty much what I mean :p
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Adaptive13:
If possible this would be great!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keithzorz:
There is an app called lock delay in the market that will do what you are looking for.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Unhelpful:
Ooh, any idea how it interacts with no lock? I think I'll try it and see.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dave the Knave:
There is an even better app, that does EXACTLY what you are talking about. It's called Pattern Control, it's free from the Market as well. I use it now after trying about 6 different apps. Only problem is, it will NOT work on FroYo.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] movrshakr:
Well, I tried Pattern Control, and it does NOT do what I think is being said. On mine it said that since no pattern is set up, it can't do anything.

First we are not talking about the time before the screen dims and goes black. We are talking about the time before the screen goes into lock and requires a swipe (assuming there is no lock code on the phone) to get back to usable screen. Screen indeed may be black, and touch on power button brings up the "Phone locked" screen.

We want to be able to set the time before THAT lock happens to be longer. Ok if screen goes to black as set in Settings>Sound and Display>Screen Timeout, but we want it to still be unlocked (until the lock time we set is reached) so that when brought back to life before the lock time expires, no swipe is needed.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] sike89:
Ok so my phone is fine turns on normally and stuff except when i try to get into the area to flash a new rom (by holding home and power) it just puts me into a boot loop.. it flashes htc then goes away then flashes htc again.. over and over till i stop and then it will just boot normally with no problems at all... but i don't like the rom i have on it right now and want it gone...

can anyone help?

also this is not the first time flashing a rom, i change roms every 2 days or or.. lol i like moving around. could it be that somehow i broke root? is there a way to test if i have root still?
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] sike89:
any help at all??? need more info???? anything?????:(
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Hatefly:
Did some searches and couldn't find anything like it. The only thing I can think of is Data is corrupt somehow. Anyhow, my issue...

Did a reset a couple days ago and in the reboot system kept giving me an error, then it would retry the boot. After about 5min of that i pressed the back button and it bugged out. Sorry, little white letters move so fast it's hard to ready what it said. Anyway, from that point it booted just fine.

Since then I have noticed an amazing increase in my battery life. Data and Sync on, I'm getting 1-7ma in standby. With GPS on I get 11-15ma in standby. I have now gone 3 days with moderate use and have had my phone on the charger for less than 2 hours. (USB CHARGE and not including just now)

Now, your prob asking how this is a problem. My problem is, I am getting those same numbers when I CHARGE my phone. As of now my phone took 3.5 hours to go from 67% to 85%. My power widget says it's getting 11ma+.

Essentially I got awesome battery life but craptastic charging speed now :(

Does anyone know of a command prompt thing I can use to wipe my battery data? I have a feeling it's throwing things off...
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aj74:
I just ordered a new 16gb class 10 (speed matters to me ) card to replace the slow crappy stock card my evo came with.

Anybody has experience on what the proper steps are to transfer the data from the old card to the new card?

Is it as simple as cloning the old card like a hard drive ?

Any guides available?

Thanks in advance for all the guidance and input.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phatmanxxl:
Just transfer it all on a computer then transfer that into the next card, unless you have a card reader then just transfer the content from card to card using the phone and card reader.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aj74:
Awesome!

So no hidden files, directories...mbr's to clone?

Easy as pie then :)

Thanks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkkterror:
There's nothing mission-critical stored on the EVO's sd card. If there was I would've been in trouble because the minute I got my EVO home I pulled the sdcard and put in my own. Didn't bother to transfer anything that was on it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] patzkata:
Hello guys,

first of all, yes, I read all the similar threads, but I don't think that they are like my case...

so .. I'm using my TP2 over a year and a half and it was brand new

the phone is hard-spl-ed and I changed my Roms hundreds of times

my Freezing issue starts about month- month and a half

and it appear when the phone goes in stand-by then i cant drag the unlock button .. to solve it, I have to touch and moving my finger many of times over the whole screen , and at some time it start to work.. it is like my touch screen stops responding.

I'm using mostly Energy roms, but also I'm using the XAndroid versions

and this issue was also when i'm using Android, but the intresting is, when it happens when the phone is not at stand-by the screen moving but right after remove my finger it returns to previous position and this is all the time again until i start to touch and drag over the whole screen

I already known that the issue is not from the Xandroid, because I removed everything , and re-installed clean Energy Rom , and it happens again

It is not and from the Storage card (micro 4GB class 6) because it also happens when i removed the card ...

So can somebody advice me something , what could be the problem, what I can try to do or check...

thank you very much for the assistance

Regards
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] uncleswoop:
do you have a screen protector? it will need to be removed if so. you might need to increase you screen sensitivity as well
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] patzkata:
yes I have screen protector

how can i increase my screen sensitivity.. do I need to start using my device w/o screen protector ?

i still can not understant how this start to happening, before I never had any problems in past...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] uncleswoop:
because what happens with screen protectors is that sometimes the screen itself reads pressure from the screen protector as if your pressing down. and since tp2 isnt multitouch, it thinks your pressing the screen before you actually press it. it happens a lot, sometimes it happens to me. but my screen protector is removable so i just pop it off real quick to release the pressure it creates and boom, much much faster and smoother.

i think i read somewhere you can make your tp2 multitouch, that might help. but ive yet to try it so i cant say.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] uncleswoop:
you can search the forums to find the best way to increase sensitivity, there are many diff ways. heres one. it says hd2 but i think it works for us too

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=614781

again, this may not be your issue, its just a possibility because the situation sounded similar to mine
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] patzkata:
thank you very much for whole the help, i'll test and will write back if not working

I was never thought that the screen protector could be the problem, so thank again
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] uncleswoop:
ok. but dont forget to remove the screen protector. if you leave it on, increasing the screen sensitivity will only make the problem worse.
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikejt2000:
Hi all, does anyone know where you can buy a dust cover for the earphone socket on my HD2.

Thanks
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] afzalanwar:
I agree .. HD2 has dust problem specially for outdoor working people. A solution would be nice
[Android Software Development] XSafire:
Do you think Gingerbread will be a 2.x update or 3.0 update? There are rumors surrounding both. What do you think and why?

I know 3.0 is being made to support tablets, and gingerbread is only going to be available for high-end devices.

Many rumors speculate that the next release will be anywhere from 2 weeks from now until Christmas. It's pretty much guaranteed to be released in 2010 though.
[Android Software Development] flynny:
To be honest, in my own uneducated opinion...

..I think we will see a glimpse in 2010 before christmas, perhaps even a working version on prototype hardware. But a released version wont happen until 2011.

Im hoping they take there time with it.

And please for the love of friking god will they finally make openGL use mandatory regardless, there are too many good phones with dedicated hardware being wasted ><
[Android Software Development] Captainkrtek:
Agreed! (10 chars)
[Droid Incredible General] Hatman41:
So I am useing APK Manager for the first time. I put the apk file that I want to modify in the place-apk-here-for-modding folder. I then select 22 and pick the apk then I hit 9 and get an error. This is from the error log. Any idea as to what is wrong?

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|Mon 10/04/2010 -- 13:03:47.34|

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java version "1.3.1_01"

Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1_01)

Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.3.1_01, mixed mode)

Could Not Find C:\android\APK Manager\place-apk-here-for-modding\../place-apk-he

re-for-modding/signedcom.htc.resources.apk

Could Not Find C:\android\APK Manager\place-apk-here-for-modding\../place-apk-he

re-for-modding/unsignedcom.htc.resources.apk

java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: brut/apktool/Main (Unsupported major.min

or version 50.0)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)

at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)

at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)

at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)

at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)

at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)

at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)

at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(Unknown Source)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siteexperts:
I decided to try my first custom ROM... (installing virtous) and have a few questions/issues:

1) I started with a Nandroid backup.

2) I did a full titanium backup

3) I used ROM manager to install Virtous (did a full system swipe)...

Ok.. here is where I am having my issues

After the install, I went back to the marketplace and installed titanium backup.

What option should I restore? I would like to get all the widgets and data restored. I tried restore all apps+system data but I am wondering if that is reinstalling the bloatware that virtous removed. If so, what are the correct options in Titanium backup I should use?

Next, I tried to reinstall everything but I got that dreaded low on storage and then out of storage space error. My phone has lots of storage both internal and on the SD card - so the restore (I am guessing) failed at some indeterminate point. Most of my widgets were not loading properly (beautiful widget, pure calendar, multi-icon etc) after the attempted restore.

Regardless, even if I clean-up the widgets, the low memory message persisted so I was left with no choice but to revert to my previous nandroid backup .

So... how do you install a custom rom and easily reestablish your previous state/settings without getting the low/ out of storage warning?

Also, one of my goals is to get a deodexed rom so I can install custom themes (e.g., battery mods, etc). Can I just flash the deodexed stock rom over my current rom (I did not understand deodexed when I first upgraded to froyo) without having to do a swipe? Will I run into any issues?

Thanks
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siteexperts:
I tried again with less apps/ data and still have no luck.

I did a restore all apps and system data from titanium, got a low storage than out of storage error (the phone has over 60% of its storage available so I know I am nowhere near close to actually using all the storage).

When titanium completed, most apps forced close (gmail, rom manager, etc) so I assume the storage error is impacting the restore.

Back to my nandroid backup again.

If I am running stock Froyo, can I just flash a new sense based froyo without wiping? (trying to find a way to experiment and really want to get a deodexed rom installed)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smtom:
When new ROM is flashed, in TB, try reinstalling only user apps, not system apps.

Why?

The new ROM you flash and the ROM you are coming from should both have system apps already in them, so why reinstall system apps from the old ROM that most likely exist in the new ROM?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siteexperts:
But how do I reestablish the previous settings? Or do I have to reconfigure all my accounts, etc each time I install a new rom.

Thanks
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bobrt:
Me too. How to correct?

uncommon 1.1 on my phone is doing same thing. 1.0 had no problem.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siteexperts:
Just a theory as I haven't tried to install another ROM...

I noticed the touchdown data file on my phone was quite big (>70mb) - it appears that when touchdown's data file gets very large, the message appears more often (looks likes there is a bug in Android with large data-sets). I cleared touchdown's data and resynced which shrunk the data file to ~12mb. I reinstalled all the apps I removed to try and eliminate the memory error and so far have been running smoothly.

When I have some time, I am going to try another ROM and see if I can restore without any storage issues. I still am curious how everyone resets their settings from ROM to ROM (or do they manually configure everything each time)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bobrt:
After poking around in astro file manager, contacts(cross-linked mess), and uninstalling some rarely used programs all to no avail......

I fixed my "low on program memory" notification by emptying my deleted items in the mail app- a hotmail account that is rarely used.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pons:
To be on the safe side, just reinstall only apps, with or without data. There is no real point in wiping days, and yet reinstalling system apps and data. Kind of defeats the purpose. And yes, manually add accounts. Takes more time, but minimizes conflicts. Shouldn't take more than 30 minutes, which is a small price to pay to eliminate potential headaches.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CJHacker:
I've run into this as well. In fact it was the original reason I decided to move forward with rooting my phone since I had to wipe it anyway. Has anyone looked into what program monitors this and flags the error? Is memory not being reported correctly, or is there a tolerance that maybe we need to tweak in the code somewhere?