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[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Cuteless:
I thought NAND with RMNET support will fix this issue, but it seems, that we still got this problem, maybe it's time to actually tell some devs about it.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] splat matt:
I have the Vibrant and starting to see if I can force t-mo to swap it for the G2. So has anyone switched from the Vibrant to the G2? Which one do you like better. I have read that there are some members who are disappointed with the G2 screen saying it has a yellow tint.

So I would like to hear the early adopters feedback G2 or stay with the Vibrant and why.

Thanks!

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[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daijizai:
I don't notice the yellow tint, and it is on par with my Vibrant IMHO. I don't use the Virbant though... I put it back in the box after a few hous because I don't like TouchWiz.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jorsher:
I think you read about a member that mentioned yellow tint.

I haven't heard of it outside of one comment. My screen most surely doesn't.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theclueless:
the vibrant's screen is definitely superior to G2 screen, and I do miss the 16GB internal SD space. other than that, I am giving my vibrant to my nephew and not looking back
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gr8gorilla:
The screen is fine on the G2 I have both the Vibrant and the G2, I couldn't make Tmobile do a complete swap, but I was able to get a full discount on the G2.

In my opinion the Vibrant is a great Media Device. Otherwise I think the G2 is better. The Vibrant is not as functional as the G2 as far as the phone/gps/etc is concerned but does have a better media capabilities.

It is wonderful to open google maps, or any app that uses GPS and have almost instant location, and it is accurate! That makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

BTW if you have done two warranty exchanges on your Vibrant, then you can make Tmobile swap it out for any "Comparable" phone, including the G2 if you are still not happy with it.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jorsher:
Definitely, but there's nothing wrong with the G2 screen. Hopefully after the 18-month exclusivity is up, HTC will have some nice S-AMOLED devices.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianandamy:
I am the 1 who complained of yellow tent on the screen after playing with it for a few hours I have adjusted however I still don't like the screen compared to an o l e d. What the deal breakers for me are the keyboard up with the placement of the delete key and the return key, The floppy hinge, and the internal memory not being there. overall someone to make a case that keeps the phone opening I would probably keep it but I mac os 10 500 bucks on it
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PolishDude:
I have a Vibrant with Bionix 1.4 rom and OC on it, I am getting the G2 today. I will play with both and decide which phone I want to keep. I think G2 will have better support but I think Vibrant has better hardware with 16gb of internal storage, 4 inch samoled screen, not to mention the FFC that will shortly be installed, its going to take a lot to make me keep the G2 over the Vibrant, I do like the fact it has an indicator and its metal
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larryccf:
I had two vibrants - one lasted 15 days, the 2nd 45 days - (tmo extended my remorse period over the gps issue). I had rooted and installed one of the lag fixes - and i thought that vibrant was fast, until i got this G2

i don't want to say the G2 blazes past the vibrant in blinding speed fashion, but it is definitely quicker and smooth as silk in all functions

i haven't noticed any tint to the screen - i don't think the screen or display is as brilliant (colorwise) but it's definitely nice

size on the G2, dropping to 3.7" display, i was worried i'd miss that display size. Nope - the size is perfect, both visually and size is perfect in my hand (i'm 6' w/large hands).

only "fault" i have with the G2 vs the vibrant - the speakerphone is definitely not as loud, and when set to max volume, the sound breaks up - i suspect it's because the speaker is right behind that metal backing cover - and it's reflecting that sound - when i put my finger on the metal cover there, the sound improves, and same if i remove the back cover. But that's a minor minor "issue", nothing i'm worried about.

oh, the GPS - IS FLAWLESS - even shows me moving around in my house, and is always oriented correctly to the direction i'm facing. Granted my house is 88' long, but it shows me moving around inside my house, from one end to the other.

i did have some concerns i'd miss the vibrant, i liked it that much. But that's not the case.

now i'm just looking forward to someone rooting this phone, so i can ditch some of the bloatware.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmd1981:
I am going from the Vibrant to the G2, but I don't get my G2 until Monday. I was in love with the Vibrants screen, but the battery life was just horrendous for how I need to use a phone. I took it back within my remorse period and ordered the G2 Thursday. I really liked the Vibrant, but I think the G2 will be a better phone for me especially with the physical keyboard. I had an iPhone and never had problems with the screen keyboard, but with the Vibrant I would miskey all the time...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larryccf:
battery life on the G2 has been pretty impressive compared to the vibrant

- where on the vibrant i had screen timeout in 1 minute, kept GPS and wireless, data sync, background data, etc turned off, and would put it in "airplane" mode when i went to sleep, after taking it off the charger at midnight, using the phone for normal conversation useage (approx 1.5-2 hours per day) by 6:00PM i'd be down to less than 20% charge

with the G2, and this is only after 3 days so battery has not had a chance to fully condition, with same useage, but in this case screen timeout is 10 minutes AND I'M USING THAT LIVE WALLPAPER "THUNDERSTORM" WITH THE LIGHTNING STRIKES, and leaving GPS on and not fooling with airplane mode while i sleep, i'm seeing 35+% charge at the end of the day

i have not missed the vibrant
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NoDataFound:
How did you manage to get them to do that? I called TMO in an effort to try and get them to perform the same thing and was met with resistance. I have a vibrant and used my upgrade from my G1 to get it.

I turned on my G1 today to flash 2.2 and install ip Webcam for a wireless outdoor cam, but haven't put it down since. I miss my G1 and while I love the screen and upgrades in terms of memory, etc... I don't think I'll be using it again and want that G2 for the keyboard and size. I like my vibrant for media, but as an everyday driver this G1 or something like it is more my style.

So I beg you... how do I get them to do a full discount?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMan42:
what??????
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] user1307:
So I recently lost my Vibrant and am now looking into either getting another Vibrant or a G2. If someone could help us out, how does the G2 compare to the Vibrant in terms of overall performance and what are potential dealmakers or dealbreakers?

For me, my concerns about the G2 are:

800 mHz processor versus 1 gHz processor of the Vibrant. Does it make a huge difference? Keep in mind that the Vibrant is only running 2.1 right now but when it gets 2.2 will the G2 be able to keep up?

The G2 3.7" screen versus the Vibrant's 4" SAMOLED screen. Personally I loved the Vibrant's screen, it's gorgeous.

4 GB internal memory versus 16 GB internal memory. Yeah I know I can always get a bigger SDcard but its still nice to have larger internal memory.

How is the physical keyboard? I read someone on here had some complaints.

The keyboard and HSPA is not a big issue for me.

I don't like to rush into bad decisions and when I got the Vibrant, I believe it was the best phone out right then, so any suggestions and advice is greatly appreciated. :)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carlsbad0331:
I bought my Vibrant 21 days ago. I took it back today and picked up a G2. I am very happy with the decision. The Vibrant screen is incredible, and the 16gb internal was nice.

But I have a 16gb msd card, and dont use the device for video media. I did a quadrant on the Vibrant this morning and it scored 842. I did a quadrant on the G2 this evening and it scored 1420.

I dont know how reliable quadrant is, but it confirmed my suspicion that the G2 was performing better even with a slower processor.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImSoHungry:
im not coming from the vibrant, but i am coming from a Galaxy phone, The Epic Fail
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arcadia310:
I came from a Vibrant to the G2 and without going into details, I like the G2 WAY more than the Vibrant. Its sooooo much faster than the Vibrant. I don't miss super amoled at all, that shouldn't be the main selling point for a phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clivo360:
I'm gonna wait to see what Samsung says in this upcoming week about the forthcoming update to the Vibrant. If its only a GPS fix and froyo isn't coming for a while, i'm gonna try and get a G2.

It looks like T Mobile is also getting the HTC HD3 running windows phone 7. However, lack of multitasking and a small amount of apps make it hard to switch from android. That leaves the myTouch HD as the only other solid option coming out.

However, its gonna be hard to give up the Vibrants 4' SAMOLED and beast of a GPU.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NoDataFound:
So what is the advice to making this change (vibrant to the g2) or even purchasing the G2 at the discount rate.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daijizai:
My advice, get the Nexus One. It may be a little slower, and not as good for gaming, but it is pure Android with minimal pre-installed apps.

Also, it seems that the preinstalled apps on the vibrant (esp. gmail) cannot be upgraded from the market, meaning you rely on OTA to get new gmail features!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] E Double:
I received my G2 Friday, and I love it. Everything works out of the box; GPS works, no freezing or lagging. I was looking at how my screen was laid out on the vibrant when I was setting up my G2, and the vibrant even lags when you unlock the screen. The Vibrant is a piece of garbage, (I'm on my third in six weeks) and I frankly would feel less ripped off if somebody knocked me over the back of the head and took $500 out of my pocket.

That being said the screen on the vibrant is gorgeous and the gorilla glass is honestly something all phones in this price range should come with. My G2's screen doesn't have a yellow tint, colors are nice (more realistic than the vibrants hyper saturated colors) and the resolution blows the doors off of something like my wife's iPhone 3GS. I am a little nervous of the slight flex the screen has, but then again, I was terrified of how slight the build was of the Vibrant; it felt that if you looked at it the wrong way, something would break, never mind if you fumbled it. And the overall build quality of the phone is superb, and doesn't feel cheap and flimsy like the vibrant does (in every aspect except the screen)

Yesterday I was able to use navigation without the phone ****ting its pants. I was able to make and receive calls whenever I wanted with no fuss. Bluetooth wasn't flaky and I didn't have to do 5 or 6 battery pulls just to keep the phone limping. GPS locked onto every satellite in seconds, every time. All the above was what was normal everyday **** I had to deal with on the vibrant. It got so bad that I actually started using my Blackberry Bold 9000 again.

I am totally happy with my G2, and feel completely cool with the $500 I spent on it. After this point you couldn't give me a Samsung product, of any kind. If you don't have any problems with your vibrant (except of course for that fine non functioning GPS) then you might have a harder choice. But for me, Samsung made my choice for me. Good luck.

Cheers,

Dennis
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] splat matt:
How does the G2's camera and music fidelity compare to the vibrant?

I have seen some recorded video and photo stills taken with the G2 and my impression was the G2 didn't take as dynamic of a photo. The darker images appear to have less distinction.

Anyone else have the same experience?

XDA app via Samsung Vibrant
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larryccf:
Bingo - my sentiments exactly (having also had a vibrant)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arcadia310:
I feel you about the Vibrant's hyper saturated colors. I've always thought that the colors were a little unrealistic. The G2's screen has a more natural vibrancy to it. Basically everything on the G2 looks how it does in real life, the Vibrant did not to me.

Also the G2's screen has more PPI thus you have an overall clearer and sharper picture. The only difference I see between Super Amoled and SLCD are the saturation of colors. Super amoled is not sharper or clearer at all to me, only has brighter colors. I prefer the picture on my G2, the screen technology should not be the main selling point for a phone.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] user1307:
So it seems from most of the replies that the G2 superiority over the Vibrant comes from a software perspective (2.2 vs 2.1 and working GPS) but how does the hardware stack up? Does the 200 mHz difference make a big difference in performance? Keep in mind that the Vibrant with lag fix running eclair has a quadrant score of 2200+ vs the 1500+ stock G2.

I am getting tired of waiting for a 2.2 release for the Vibrant and I really want FLASH but I don't want a phone who's hardware is not up to snuff either and the loose hinge and internal memory problem I've been reading up on doesn't help either. =/

Are my worries too exaggerated? How has y'all experience been with the G2 vs the Vibrant?

Also, does anyone know if the G2 will get gingerbread?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arcadia310:
Quadrant doesn't measure user experience, it grades the CPU and GPU. A higher score in quadrant doesn't mean a damn thing. My Vibrant ran 2500 one time so it must be the fastest phone out right? Wrong. It was still sluggish and lagged. Long press one of your homescreens and click applications, see how long it takes for it to come up. My Vibrant would take like 10 seconds to load that but my G2 loads it instantly. Everything on the G2 is instant and works how it should. Flash is beautiful on the web.

Don't base everything off numbers. There are other factors that play into the speed of the device. Also, my phone has been on for 12.5 hours now and is at 45%. My Vibrant would have been dead at this point whether I was using it or not. I don't have to install obscure random "fixes" to make my phone run like it should.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dale_cooper:
I've had my vibrant for about 60 days now... anyways - I'm 90% sure I'm gonna go buy the G2 today (off contract since i'm EM+). The vibrant just has too many issues. It STILL will not sync my corporate exchange calendar correctly - any phone I've had does this, including the nexus with no issues.

I have the vibrant rooted, lag fix, and gps fix. The GPS still doesn't function right all the time, and lately when I've tried using it, it does a weird reboot of the phone. It's just too buggy in my opinion.

Not to mention I really miss froyo, it just feels right compared to touchwiz on 2.1
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] larryccf:
my vibrant was rooted w lag fix and would punch 2276 on quad benchmark

but it still didn't feel as fast and silky smooth in operation as this G2 does - everything moves so much quicker, more responsive - go into a store and try one out - you'll see for yourself. And Battery life is much improved - where before, on the vibrant i had incorporated every efficiency move i could (mainly black static wallpaper, GPS off, wireless off, data sync / background data off, airplane mode when i went to bed, it would still be under 20% at the end of the day. With the G2, i've only had it 3 days so battery isn't even conditioned yet, and with no efficiency steps, a live wallpaper (thunderstorm w lightning strikes), at end of day i'm seeing 35% charge remaining.

plus, not hanging on waiting for samsung to release fixes, updates etc and NOT HAVING TO SCREW WITH KIES - kies actually caused my PC (Vista x64) to crash. buggiest software i think i've ever seen, and didn't give me that warm & fuzzy about sammy's software skills
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] user1307:
Thanks for all the feedback guys, put some of my fears to rest. Yeah I noticed alot of lag with my Vibrant, primarily during unlocking, so it's good to hear that the G2 doesn't have this problem. Also nice to hear that the battery is not as bad as the Vibrant. My Vibrant doesn't even last me a whole day before I have to recharge it.

Have you guys tried playing some games and see how it performs? I do game occasionally during class and on the bus :D. From some of the youtube videos I've seen, physical keyboard + emulator looks brilliant!

I think I will get a G2 seeing as how I wanted one all along just trying to find some reassurance here. :)

Thanks again guys
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kludgineer:
Cconsidering that even with all the extra Google apps and the couple freebies that are included (such as Swype), and even taking into account the missing 2GB of ROM, you still have more than 2x as much fee ROM on the G2 as you have total ROM on the Nexus one. You're saying that the mere presence of a few installed apps that you won't use is enough to make you sacrifice all that extra space? Keep in mind that once the phone is rooted, you can remove any apps you don't want. You can't add more memory to a rooted Nexus One.

As for your second comment, you may be right about the Vibrant. FWIW, I can state for certain that it is not the case with the G2. Several of my Google apps were ready to be upgraded as soon as I ought the phone. I didn't specifically notice which ones, but I am pretty sure both gMail and Google Maps were among them.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rbcamping:
As each day go by with no updates or even accurate communication, I hope and pray that Tmobile will ban all Samsung products based ony on what they have put their company through.

I will be looking at the G2 today and I may make the jump. I am wondering if anyone is going to wait for something else that works!

If any of you do not make the switch to the G2, what phone will you be looking at and why?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arcadia310:
There's no logic in that. Why wait for phones that haven't been announced? The MTHD has been leaked but its nothing special, just another phone aimed at the teenage/uninformed audience. Beyond that there's nothing really to "wait" for because no one knows anything.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] E Double:
I guess I'm different, because you couldn't pay me to watch a movie or play a game on any screen smaller than the 11.6" screen my netbook has. What are you doing with your phone that necessitates A quadrant score of 2200+ vs a score of 1500+ if the lower score brings a zero lag experience? After all these aren't supercomputers, and we aren't using them to solve complex equations or find a new "even smaller than the last particle " at the Hadron Collider.

I'm not trying to be snarky here, I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from and what exactly you're trying to accomplish. I totally get bleeding edge performance when it comes cars and motorcycles (as I own both, and participate in SCCA meets) and even on computers, where I can sit down in front of them and play a game on a 100" projection screen, but what the hell am I going to do with something smaller than pack of cigarettes? certainly not play Call of Duty.

Help me understand what's the point of the quest for the fastest phone in the universe.

Cheers

Dennis
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkAgent:
This thread will get you very bias answers -- you are posting in a G2 thread asking how many people prefer the G2 over another phone. There are plenty of people who are mighty happy with their Vibrant and would never exchange it for a G2; go ask in the Vibrant forums and find out.

That said, I myself am thinking of making T-Mobile swap out my Vibrant for the G2 simply because I am sick and tired of waiting for updates; and HTC phones are a lot more future proof than Samsung phones because HTC puts all its drivers into a public database, making it easier for devs to port new version of Android if HTC decided not to support them for the G2.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthrottle:
I'll still on the fence about giving up my vibrant for the g2. My vibrant doesn't have any major lag issues, gps could be quicker, but it worked to get me 750 miles and back a few weeks ago, battery isn't the greatest, but 24 hours without having to change a thing or disable settings isn't the worst.

The only thing holding me back is the look. The reason I got the vibrant was because it looked more like a high end phone than the g2 does. The g2 has "high end features" such as the brushed metal backing, but it definitely doesn't have the look of a working professionals phone. The vibrant may look like an iphone, but it also looks like a quality built product, and sometimes looks matter. I don't think it feels cheap unlike others, but it is missing something to make it feel high end. The weight is a little uneasy and the battery cover is definitely cheap, but together it feels solid enough.

I'd like someone who had or has had both to chime in without using the lack of software support or some sporadic issues that only some have as their reason for wanting a g2. My wife and I both have a vibrant, so I know not every one of these has issues.

Thanks!

Sent from my Vibrant using the xda-app.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jorsher:
I wish people would quit bringing up clock speed as if it matters :P

Clock speed only tells you how many times a second the processor will flip switches and doesn't tell you how many switches it's flipping.

G2 is very fast. I've never used a Galaxy S to compare it to, but the performance is definitely nothing to worry about. Coming from a G1, I couldn't be happier.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] allthrottle:
I don't care as much about clock speed either, as long as it runs quick. I've had 3 g1's and a cliq, so going to my vibrant was ridiculous. My only reasons for wanting to switch are the lack of camera flash, potential for quicker software dev support, and speed that some are claiming the g2 has over the vibrant. Otherwise, this is a great phone!

My wife loves hers, and she hated touch screen phones up until now. Even chose to give up her 9700 bold after I got my vibrant.

Sent from my Vibrant using the xda-app.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arcadia310:
I don't see how you would consider the Vibrant a quality built product when its made of 100% plastic (the exterior) and has SEVERAL software bugs. The G2 is made of aluminum and texturized rubber and has no software bugs. The phone is definitely classier than the Vibrant and runs faster in every area. I own both phones.