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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Bellkingsway:
Just to clear some of the smoke that's around....

If processing a DOA replacement, it must be done within 60 days, with the original equipment (box and what not), cannot be unlocked and it must be done at the original purchase point.

I'm not going to fuel any fires here, but being such a massive company their are bound to be inconsistencies, especially dealing with independent retailers who don't train their reps to Bell's standards (Best Buy and Future Shop included).

To help some of those out who are having a hardware issue on their phone that a re-flash won't fix. Call the store before heading down, let them know you are having the issue, they will tell you what they need, etc and if they have stock, ask them to set one aside for you. This will avoid further frustration.

Cheers :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aznserpent:
Just wanted to say thanks for this thread, OP! My phone just died on like day 35 and i was pissed...

Just went to my Bell store to confirm the DOA extension and got a phone on the spot.

Thanks again. Lets hope this batch is better...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] opensourcefan:
Maybe it would be handy to have the instructions here...

Hopefully you still have you NCK code handy.

enter *7465625*638*#

Add the MCC MNC numbers with a space in the middle to the first box. ie. 302 610

In the next box put in your NCK key.

BELL MCC - 302

BELL MNC - 610

Original Link - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7781298&postcount=65
[Galaxy S I9000 General] contalyst:
I just got my DOA replacement for my phone going to Radio Off every time I try to make a call and no calls are able to be received.

After a week talking with bell 1-800-667-0123, the bell store and data support and samsung, Bell admitted to the 60 day extension.

HOWEVER the fine print on that extension is that you have to have gone into the store with the DOA prior to the 30 days as the 60 day extension is just to allow stock to arrive for replacements. I got around this by telling them I went in the store within the 30 days and could not replicate the issue in store and talked myself into a replacement phone.

But joke is on me as my brand new SG with latest firmware and all still does the radio Off problem with making and receiving calls.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] prince_72:
Actually I am on the same boat with you.

I bought the phone 20th of Aug and few days ago the phone is completely dead.

It does not even power up. I bought the phone from Futureshop and I am not

on Bell. I called Samsung and Samsung said to call my service provider. Which? Fido?

I went to FS and they told me that they can not do anything. I called Bell on the spot

and I put the guy from FS to talk to Bell and they both agreed that they can not do anything.

There is no law in this country? Who's responsibility is this

I dont know what to do.

The phone looks good but is a piece of garbage.

Now my next attemp is to give to a friend of mine to go to bell.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] er1cha:
My phone will not get past 'S' logo, goes to black screen (and the buttons can light up). It technically has stock firmware, but it was unlocked.

If i can get a friend who IS on Bell, is there anything they can do to refuse my refund?
[XPERIA X10 General] hugorunes:
You all bought this phone not even knowing there was gonna be a 2.1. SO why the heck are you complaining just because it can have it you still bought it regardless so why not Desire which did have 2.1 So please all stop your bloody moaning its doing my head in I like too answer questions asked on here and not look at stupid posts all the TIME !!!!!!!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] mrtim123:
thats for sure!

+1
[XPERIA X10 General] Sighx:
Tada! Good job
[XPERIA X10 General] chris_knows:
I remember we were promised a 2.1 update officially from SE when I bought the phone. I recently spoke with a programmer for SE though, so I understand why it's taking them so long, and I'm not that mad about it.
[XPERIA X10 General] Findee:
When I bought this phone, the whole reason I bought it was for the promised upgrade too 2.1 at the end of Q3. If I had known they were going to delay it, then yes I would have just gotten a Desire.

I have every right to moan and complain when they promised something and then didn't deliver.
[XPERIA X10 General] downesey:
I knew the phone was loaded with 1.6, but I also took solace in the fact that an update was imminent. This however hasn't been fulfilled, hence the frustration. Iv never posted about 2.1 on the x10, but your anger is misplaced
[XPERIA X10 General] k1sr:
Tell ya what though - I'm glad they postponed the release of 2.1

While SE might have released it before the end of September, there was then going to be country changes, and the my carrier was bound to hold onto it for well over a month or two, and I'd probably still be waiting until mid 2011

So now I can just relax and enjoy 1.6 again, instead of getting hung up on an update.

See, I don't give two craps about the difference between 1.6 and 2.1 and 8.7, I just like shiny stuff.

Now I'm off to play with myself. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] fuusuke:
this you? ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] njfpolyr6:
got my white x10i in the first week it released and i dun even know anythung about android os version (this is my first android device) so i was just quietly being patience waiting for the update...however now i start getting frustrated on these non-sense threads.

too many complaining in this forum now and i think MODS should start taking further actions to clean up some threads.....

the forum initally has some useful information...but now trying to search the forum for some specific topics and/or solutions will yield to so many useless threads in return....

==
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
I'm curious though... why is it taking them so long?
[XPERIA X10 General] tetracortica:
same here i really really really want to know why its taking so long
[XPERIA X10 General] k1sr:
Because they want to make sure we get the best experience out of the phone.

Because it's SE's first attempt at Android

Because there's a lot of customisations, rather than just plain old 2.1

Because sometimes things take longer than expected

Because if you ever had Windows Mobile, you'd know you never ever ever get an update

Because sometimes companies release 1000s of updates, mainly to fix issues the introduced with the previous update - SE want's to release an update without bugs

Because it's not really taking that long

Because there's nothing wrong with 1.6

Because some of the x10 community have become impatient, it seems like a long time

Because good things take time

Because they can

Because they have more to do in their time than just give you 2.1

Because it's interesting to watch the reactions of people

Because they might have to reprogram a lot of their UI to work with 2.1

Because 2.1 ain't perfect anyway

Because there should be another point here but I can't remember

Because I like making bullet points

Instead of whining about the problem, why not become part of the solution.

Ask yourself "what can I do to help Sony along?"
[XPERIA X10 General] aminmizar:
+1. Guess that sum up everything :p

[*]Because they SE...
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
...........Because they are completely redesigning the UI
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
What I can't wrap my head around is if people wanted 2.1 or 2.2, why didn't they just buy a device that was already at the higher version.

It's not like there weren't any available. 99% of the countries where the X10 is officially sold have had a pretty nice selction of devices. And the world isn't lacking in unlocked devices....Even in Japan, the Desire came out only 3 months after the X10. (And was quickly pulled from the shelves. Apparently it's being re-released in October, with 2.2 preinstalled)

If these same people are so willing to sell their X10s just so they can have a newer Android version now instead of in a few weeks, why did they buy the phone in the first place???

I just can't understand.
[XPERIA X10 General] im_iceman:
@chris_knows... What did the SE programmer tell you?
[XPERIA X10 General] gunawan-1:
What:s wrong with Android 1.6? It still make my X10 looks good.

if we compare with other x series..x2 for instance. I must say "OH MY GOD"

Gunawan, GN Mutimedia & X10i
[XPERIA X10 General] ealax:
I dont really want to be back to an UnRooted phone, so I will wait a bit to try the 2.1 until the Root is fully tested
[XPERIA X10 General] pngface:
Incase I wasn't clear enough in my previous post, I don't care for smart-ass answers. I wanted to know what caused the delay from a SE programmer's point of view. I said I was 'curious'. How is that whining?

@chris_knows: perhaps I'll just pm you since this forum has changed drastically since when I joined it. People will now attack you if they think there's even the slightest chance of someone attacking their beloved X10 (just for the record, I have no problems with my phone, I'm just CURIOUS)

Edit: If you really want to see whining, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyN7O5jURgo
[XPERIA X10 General] Devtone:
When I bought the X10 T-Mobile told me..

2.1 is coming

MT is not supported by 1.6

16m colors not supported by 1.6

Getting FroYo was my own dream, not that crazy...

**** the 16m colors, give me MT and FroYo!!!!!!! (dreaming..)

Sony SE WONT help you, you just keep buying..

XDA CAN help us getting at least FroYo on the X10. MT and 16m colors? Who knows!?
[XPERIA X10 General] Sighx:
The original plan was Q4. Then Q3. Then back to Q4. So bleh
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
I should make this my sig.

Sony != Sony Ericsson.

They share very little development resources.* The closest you'll see is Media Go compatibility.

Please, please, please don't compare Sony Computer Entertainment with Sony Ericsson. It makes absolutely zero sense. Do you really think that their experience with building consoles and making video games has anything to do with putting Android on a phone? The things are incomparable. Just like how the Vaio team doesn't work with the Cybershot team, or how the Bravia team doesn't work with the Walkman team.

Not only that, the PS3 and PSP are incredibly well supported, with firmware updates released regularly, and bug fixes are delivered as quickly as possible.

***** about the X10 all you want, but at least blame the right people for it's problems.

*Branded phones use Sony parts and the name, but the software isn't inspired by/developed by Sony. Also, they could be sharing developmental resources if the PSP Phone rumors are true.
[XPERIA X10 General] Devtone:
True true. Just want to say that Android isn't that tough to work with for a company. Especially compared to devices like the PS3. Don't care if it's Sony or Ericsson.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
It may not be.. but consider that the SE smartphone team is "classically" trained with Symbian and WM, so transitioning to a whole new OS is going to take sometime. Growing pains, if you will. They did a good job with 1.6, imo.

It's also difficult to compare SE to HTC because HTC seems like it has dedicated teams for each OS in it's stable, versus SE who seems to have dropped all other OSes in favor of Android.

I'm not saying the phone is perfect. There's a ton of little quirks about it, but, as a day-to-day use device, it's not bad. I knock on wood that I haven't experienced any of the problems on this forum aside from battery life issues at the beginning. It's been months since I've had an issue...

Although, I have a realllllllllly big problem with carrier programs. Docomo's mail program is the ****tiest application I've ever had to use on a regular basis. It can take 30 seconds for the program to even respond to a touch. This is after an update...it used to take a minute and freeze the phone entirely with a pop-up window that had no option to be dismissed saying "mail is incoming". I can't even blame the X10, because the program is the same on every smartphone they offer. :(
[XPERIA X10 General] njfpolyr6:
True True +2!!!

and i admit x10i is very handy. It could take pictures when you see something....but i do not expect it came out the same quality as my TX-7 and TX-9 as x10 is a phone, not a cyber-shot camera!
[XPERIA X10 General] chris_knows:
He said he's aware of the attempts to root the X10, and told me that he's pretty sure many people will lose interest in it when they "release the promised software" -- not sure if he's talking about 2.1 or some other update -- because he's confident that it'll be that great. He also said that this is their first Android phone and the changes they make to the UI take time, but they are going to improve the speed in which they deliver software updates in future models.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
"Attempts" to root? When did this convo take place? lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] Devtone:
I need root access to remove installed crap. Even with 2.1. SE ignorance again to think Ill use the phone as delivered.

I still love my X10 tough, or else I would have swapped it already. That doesn't mean I cant complain or not be happy.. I just expected allot more from SE. But mainly I've been misinformed by T-Mobile, and T-Mobile by SE..

The 1 month delay is not an issue, I've been waiting before. Its just that I exactly know whats coming...
[XPERIA X10 General] njfpolyr6:
personal conversation between chris_knows and "SE programmer" lol
[XPERIA X10 General] chris_knows:
My God, I can see why people are so unwilling to post news on here, everyone's so cynical.

Notice how I didn't start a new thread about it, or even offer to share what he said. I posted it only after people asked, because I figured some might wanna hear it.

By root, he was talking about root access to the bootloader. Believe it if you want; he didn't say anything controversial or something that we haven't heard before... I'm not gonna say his name, but if you guys look around, there are plenty of SE Android devs that wouldn't mind telling you the same thing.
[XPERIA X10 General] realunited123:
Did he say anything about patching the exploits ? If that is the case i may not update until jerpelea or someone else produces a rooted ROM.
[XPERIA X10 General] chris_knows:
I didn't think to ask about that or multi touch unfortunately, but I'm sure there will members (myself included) who will update regardless of that, and will share whether root access is still available on 2.1.
[XPERIA X10 General] Keithod:
Actually when I bought it I had it promised of an upgrade as were others.Why start a thread to moan about people moaning????????
[XPERIA X10 General] Puck24:
Seriously? How many times can this question be asked?!

First of all, the only competitor to the X10 here at the time was the Milestone, and the X10 kicks it's ass in hardware and design.

Second of all, I NEVER used Motorolas, b/c they looked cheap.

Third, the update was PROMISED soon at the time (I bought mine in April, the update was scheduled for May).

So, exactly, what's so unbelievable?

Face it, we bought an outdated device, and 90% of us bought it b/c of the promise of a soon update.

Why else would anyone buy a 1.6 device whereas much of the devices were on 2.1 and FroYo was right around the corner.

If you enjoy your 1.6 X10, good for you, but the majority of us actually want the full potential of the device.
[XPERIA X10 General] iead1:
You conveniently ignored my "importing" phones was an option.

You don't live in a country with zero access to the outside world.

Also, you're a fool if you think that people who enjoy their phones now don't want an update.
[Epic 4G General] BrianDigital:
hey guys rooted my girls epic, have not gotten through the recovery.

She cannot receive MMS did I miss fudge up something
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianishere:
alright so i recently tried rooting my g1, but it didn't go so well, cause i can't sign in to the google account, because i don't have a data plan.

so i did everything this told me to (link removed, but it was the guide to rooting it from cyanogenmodwiki) i was attempting to install cyanogen mod 4.2 but i'm stuck!

but i'm stuck on what to do.

i'm terrified that i might've bricked my phone.

could using someone elses sim card with a data plan work?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnson8cyl:
I believe you can use someone else's sim card with a data plan to get through the sign in and swap back to yours. There is a how to activate a g1 without a data plan thread somewhere
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] bazzatron:
So, anyone show me great screenshot of Australia X10a helpful super widget please. Have a nice day.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] mrtim123:
what the heck is a "helpful super widget"? Do you mean something that displays heaps of info? if so, info about what? it could be the weather, phone stats, facebook/social networking. need more info :)
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] SXUsr:
:D I can't wait for your next 10 discussing the same stuff that gets posted in here. :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] bazzatron:
I'm just here to help, if you dont like it leave :p
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] mrtim123:
so......what exactly are you wanting to find out from this thread? i asked you before what you wanted.....we cant help you if you dont tell us what you want.

EDIT: looking back over your previous posts, i would expect you were taking the piss in the original post and i missed the joke. Generally you are very clear and helpfull so i guess i had a fail moment :)
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] bazzatron:
LOL, just having a joke at gupta.anurag08's expense.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] QuentinCosta:
my opinion...is that bazzatron is the second account of gupta.anurag08...
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] mrtim123:
Nah, that is riskSingapore :)
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] QuentinCosta:
cant stop laughing at the moment... ;)
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] bazzatron:
LOL, I'm way to articulate to be a gupta alt.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] riskSingapore:
WTF...............
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] lawless_benji:
I wondered the same thing! Both have the same broken English, and both rudely demanding as hell that you help them....
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] riskSingapore:
hey MF*** lawless_benji mind your business, it seems you dont have any work to do in ur life just passing all ****ing time here on XDA, writing ****tt!!
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] HunteronX:
@bazzatron

Firstly, don't try to restrict who can post in threads.

Secondly, rooting is NOT needed to use widgets.

Finally, there are NOT different widgets specifically for the X10a, as the X10i and X10a have just about the same hardware and software on them.

That's all...

EDIT: Don't be offensive to other members, too...

Also, are these X10 forums just a place for people to flame and argue now?

It's useless to do so, as most people don't who you are anyway, and shouldn't care - but that doesn't even matter too! :confused:
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] lawless_benji:
You've proven my point. Really rude. And I hate broken English, I really do. It doesn't take much to type in proper sentences. I do work actually, full time. Not a benefit scrounger or lazy bum. Just lucky enough to be on holiday for a week.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] bazzatron:
Take it easy, this thread was just a joke. Delete it if you want.
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] javagreen:
Too bad. I came in here hoping to witness a plethora of blow-my-socks-off wi[dget]zardry.

You've broken my heart, dude.

Serious ;)
[XPERIA X10 Themes and Apps] mrtim123:
haha i knew it. good to see you got your phone rooted eventually gupta. all you had to do was ask nice (and use another profile) :p
[Captivate General] Picsman:
vintagephone/Carl. Yours is a very useful write up. I use a Garmin GPS for Geocaching, some street navigation and bicycle riding in the country. What you wrote should be very helpful to someone not so familiar with GPS devices in general. Thanks.

= Ron
[Captivate General] zeezz:
I completely agree. People looking at 'my tracks' and showing that there are some slight variations - we don't even know if the google maps is 100% accurate, as I know there are certain places where it doesn't match up directly with the road. I think as long as no errors are being presented during navigation (mine is doing fine in navigation mode) there is not really any complaining that can be done. Even my built in car GPS makes a mistakes once in a blue moon.
[Captivate General] derek4484:
I'm not sure what Garmin Nuvi you're using, but I have a 2 yr old 250W and it smokes this phone. The phone has me driving through people's yards and buildings. It has gotten better since the JH7 update, its almost what I would call usable now. Try doing a Mytracks track on it, its a joke how far off it is. Its certainly unusable for that.
[Captivate General] vintagephone:
I'm very familiar with the Garmin I used, a Nuvi 1390T. Negatives for the Garmin included horrible traffic reports, and searches for my destination took forever. Basic Navigation was OK, if you knew the address of where you were going. And if you were going someplace more than 30 miles away (a common undertaking in the LA basin), you just couldn't get there. Searches on the Nuvi only include locations within 30 miles. Frankly, the search was much worse than on my old Mio. I had the Nuvi 1390 for a couple weeks and returned i just as I got my second Captivate. For basic GPS navigation, the Nuvi was OK, but I saw no advantage over the Captivate. Are you mounting your Captivate in the same way and place you are mounting your Nuvi? I actually use a modified Nuvi windshield mount with my Captivate, so my mounting is literally identical.

Now, you Captivate my not work as well as mine. My original Captivate was worse than this one. As I said, YMMV (your mileage may vary).