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[Droid Incredible General] PhillyCheez:
I can say virtuous is probably THE best as far as stability and customization. It's by far one of the most polished ROMs out for the incredible right now.

I've tried both skyraider vanilla and sense and they are very nice ROMs as well. Unfortunately, a couple bugs bothered me and i always went back to virtuous.

CM6 was my first ROM and it was unfortunately too buggy for me. I miss a lot of things about it but overall, I realized there are a lot of things about Sense that i could not live without.

Desire HD ROM was also pretty cool but only because we got to see what great things HTC is inventing. I am also looking forward to dev's incorporating some things from it... like booting up in seconds!

Currently I am running uncommon sense and it's honestly just as stable (so far) as virtuous. Considering this is the first version of it, I am extremely impressed.

Since i was using virtuous with the sexyrosiemod and rotary lockscreen (but i really wanted the vanilla lockscreen), uncommon sense is pretty much my set up but built in the ROM already. As far as getting rid of bloatware though, i have to say virtuous is the easiest ROM for it. I had to use titanium with uncommon sense which really isn't that big of a deal but it wasn't as user friendly as virtuous.

EDIT: Forgot something important. I later found out that you can uninstall apps straight from the app menu in uncommon sense. very handy!

also, the other quirks in uncommon sense has really made me attached to this ROM. I never thought i would cross over from virtuous but I did and I don't see myself going back (due to personal preference not because it's necessarily better). If i was going to recommend a ROM to a friend, i would say virtuous.
[Droid Incredible General] linuxmotion:
From what you say cheese I'm going to give uncommon sense a try. So far I like it. Been only 10 minutes though
[Droid Incredible General] northernlights:
Uncommon Sense.

It just works for me all the way through. The bloatware can be a little annoying but it's easily taken care of.
[Droid Incredible General] colonel187:
I would have to say virtuous also. I was a big fan of skyraider and can't wait for gold. But uncommon sense was slow for me. I don't use rosie but I like the color settings menu and the status bars better than vanilla.

sent from my Incredible via skyraider & tapatalk
[Droid Incredible General] Coop9:
In my opinion if you're looking for the Sense experience Virtuous is the best one out there. It doesn't change anything drastically, and the UI changes are subtle and more of added polish than wholesale changes you'll get with some other roms. I really like the spirit of the project which is to remain as close to stock as possible but to give the user options that they don't have with the official build.

It's been rock solid for me, the only issue was the Gmail Update issue with 2.7 which was quickly resolved.
[Droid Incredible General] AndrewGL:
Redemption ROM-

Best if you want sense without the added bloatware

It's pretty fast too!

sent from my DI
[Droid Incredible General] parcou:
I like virtuous
[Droid Incredible General] midnight assassin:
I think more people should try redemption. its been nothing but smooth.

Virtuous is nice too. great battery life with the custom kernel.

Actually, They're all really good. I've been doing a lot of jumping around from rom to rom because they're all really good. That's what's great about being rooted. Try'em all!
[Droid Incredible General] Hatman41:
I like the new Uncommon 1.0 ROM. It is very clean and smooth and I like the small changes that were made. I am also noticing that my battery is lasting alot longer with this ROM.
[Droid Incredible General] Radiman:
I am also using Uncommon. Came from CM which was way too buggy for me and unstable.
[Droid Incredible General] Casbah:
I'm running with Uncommon Sense right now but had been on Virtuous after trying SR, Frankenrom, and the nonSense ROMS (CM, Ruby).

It's pretty nice and probably a bit more streamlined than Virtuous but still lacks something I can't place. I'd prefer Virtuous to have the power option to Reboot but while that mod is available, it conflicts with the Rotary Lockscreen mod which I like too, as well as the Revolution theme (well the rotary lockscreen conflicts). It would be nice to have DSP built in as well but aside from that these are both terrific ROMS. Hmmm...they should get married! Get the best of both worlds!:D
[Droid Incredible General] Div033:
If you use HTC sense, which I assume you do based on the title of the thread, then Virtuous is the cleanest and most stable stock sense experience you'll find.

I use SR vanilla mostly because I only like SOME of sense, like the gallery and camera app. I use launcher pro too, so having a full sense rom wouldn't be too beneficial for me personally. Gotta love choice :)

Sent from my Droid Incredible running SkyRaider Vanilla 3.0
[Droid Incredible General] dbu:
I use virtuous with rosie removed and launcher pro in its place with a hydra kernel and it's running like a dream. Can't really comment on the battery life since I am using an extended battery, but it seems to be okay.

Sent from my ADR6300
[Droid Incredible General] luniz7:
HD port
[Droid Incredible General] kungfuturkey:
With all do respect this is extremely subjective because different people all look for different things.... With that said I love the Desire HD Rom the new sense is impressive, but I need my camera and it is a little buggy. Currently I am using Redemption Rom 2.0.4 because it has a fresh look and outstanding batt life when paired with the KingxKernel #5 "It's Fixed" still the Rom is fairly quick and very smooth with little to no issues.
[Droid Incredible General] sirmims:
im loving the desire hd rom, some of the features are so futuristic lol. the only thing that i have a problem with is the camera not working, but at the rate IncDoes is adding fixes i see that working in no time
[Droid Incredible General] RMarkwald:
What he said...

Sent from HTC Incredible, Redemption 2.0.4, King's BFS #5 kernel OC to 1.113, s-off, Launcher Pro Plus
[Droid Incredible General] smtom:
Redemption, with Skyraider Sense as #2.
[Droid Incredible General] hEaTLoE:
I've been a big fan of SkyRaider. I used it starting with 2.5.2, then tried FrankenROM and a few others, but found myself back on SkyRaider 3.0 RC3. The most stable ROM I've found with the fewest bugs IMO. A good failsafe to install and backup and then try others out.
[Droid Incredible General] FlairDevil:
+1

SkyRaider is by far my personal favorite with Virtuous coming in at a close second. Both are rock-solid stable and offer the best Sense UI experience. I plan on trying out the new Desire HD port, but it will only be to see the new Sense in action as I will not live without my camera!!! =) I'm sure the devs will start migrating the best new features from the HD Sense to their current offerings if they haven't already started.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pitmanr2003:
I am running cm6 final and can not get color to chg. I go into cyno settings and change it to black but no matter what it stays white. It changed before but now it won't
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdmcivic1:
that happened to me n when i reboot it changed the colors to what u pick.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pitmanr2003:
Yeah mine won't change no matter how many times I reboot
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t3project:
you did tap the center circle after you selected the color right?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cosmoboi:
hi there anyone enounter problem sending chinese sms using this version? when i send out, it prompt me error as attached. if i send out, it will appear ??? on the receipant phone. but the chinese works on whatsapp and google talk on my phone... jus not on sms....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jezza333:
I'd suggest greying out the phone number if I were you...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cosmoboi:
ya.... i discovered... how to remove the picture man... fxxk
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cosmoboi:
repost with edited pics
[Droid Incredible General] Zoon0n:
Moved to Q&A, hope I'll get an answer there. Mods, feel free to delete this thread.
[Wildfire Android Development] danne_jo:
HTC implemented security on their newer generation phones. This flag, called @secuflag, controls whether your phone has

it's NAND or flash unlocked. Most noticeably, S-ON (security on) will read-lock your /system and /recovery partition, to name a few. Also, secuflag controls whether zip files being flashed through recovery or fastboot, are signed by HTC.

The now notorious S-OFF (security off) will disable this NAND security.

Since we are unable to access the Radio NVRAM itself (where secuflag is stored), we turned our attention to HBOOT.

AlphaRev has patched HBOOT images for several phones, whereas the HTC Desire (GSM) was our first victim.

Soon to be supported devices:

HTC Legend GSM

HTC Aria GSM (Liberty)

HTC Wildfire GSM (Buzz)

The following patches were made:

First and foremost, the security flag is ignored. HBOOT now always thinks the phone is S-OFF.

Second, Fastboot extended commands are enabled. This is similar to engineering HBOOTS, these allow you to use commands like 'fastboot flash system system.img' (flashing a system image), or 'fastboot boot boot.img' (downloading and directly booting a kernel image and ramdisk).

Is there any risk involved?

Yes, there is. Flashing HBOOT will flash a critical part of your phone, if that gets corrupted, your phone WILL be bricked.

We do not accept any responsibility for bricked phones, even though we've attempted to make the actual flashing method as safe as possible.

If your phone no longer turns on anymore, please return to HTC for warranty purposes.

Should you still run this hack/program, you then hereby accept full responsibility.

So how does this work?

The image provided is an ISO image. You can either burn that on CD, and boot it. Instructions will be provided when you run the CD.

The actual tool is packaged in a Linux livecd, to ensure maximum compatibility.

On a sidenote: yes, you should be able to run this in VMWare or Virtualbox, as long as you enable the USB device to be routed to the livecd running.

Will my phone stay S-OFF forever?

Yes and no. As soon as you decide to flash a stock RUU that has a HBOOT update in it, this hacked HBOOT will be overwritten.

You do have the option to remove the HBOOT update from the rom.zip inside the RUU. Since your phone no longer checks signatures, you could easily do that.

Also, you then still have the option to flash custom recovery, or different kernels using the fastboot functions described above (fastboot flash, et al).

http://alpharev.shadowchild.nl/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=794314&page=5 (Desire thread)
[Wildfire Android Development] tigger69:
NIIIICE *cheer*

I cant wait for this to arrive.
[Wildfire Android Development] bluedragon1982:
That are awesome news ;)
[Wildfire Android Development] bl1nkk:
That means we can flash new roms (or single images) via `adb fastboot [...]`?

Great news tho. :)
[Wildfire Android Development] rolks:
nice, keepup good work.

p.s. i hate word "soon", hope its soon not later :D
[Wildfire Android Development] danne_jo:
Just tryd this on my HTC Desire.. (so dont try it on wildfire yet)

Im soooooooo happy right now ;)
[Wildfire Android Development] ChefAnton:
Agghh, I loaded up the RUU with the .25 image, and now im locked in s-on. Can't wait for this to come out =) no more HTC stock images for me =)
[Wildfire Android Development] danne_jo:
Wow :)

Thanx to IEF @ alpharev my wildfire is now s-off!!!!!! :) damn so nice... thanx man!
[Wildfire Android Development] tigger69:
Is it out for the wildfire then?

Nice one.
[Wildfire Android Development] rolks:
what version of hboot is suported? lots of peopel flashed froyo ruu as i see in treads
[Wildfire Android Development] danne_jo:
updated first post ;)
[Wildfire Android Development] tigger69:
Very nice, were do i get it from?

you lucky sob :p
[Wildfire Android Development] f0xy:
whats the issues with having nand security off?

and what real benefits will we see from this?

Sorry for asking maybe quite numb questions :)
[Wildfire Android Development] Phinxy:
Nice leaf! :)
[Wildfire Android Development] tigger69:
Is it out officially for the wildfire yet Danne?
[Wildfire Android Development] danne_jo:
You know now when autumn have came alot of leaf is flying around in the air ;)
[Wildfire Android Development] danne_jo:
Not yet but now when its proven it wont be long
[Wildfire Android Development] bl1nkk:
Good news to see it working :)
[Wildfire Android Development] ChefAnton:
Thank You. Thank You. Thank You =)

I have a smile on my dial, was kickin meself last week when i put on the RUU_Buzz_HTC_WWE_1.25.405.1_Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35.15.31_release_142189_signed rom and found I could no longer flash stuff.

Gonna make sure I never flash a boot image again once this is done.
[Wildfire Android Development] CrimzonEyed:
Isn't this what Unrevoked Forever does?
[Wildfire Android Development] 3xeno:
Can't help you, sorry, because I have no idea.
[Wildfire Android Development] ramdroid77:
you guys can keep asking every day and nothing will change. just keep silent and wait for it like everyone else is doing too.
[Wildfire Android Development] ehoo:
Everyone else is doing too... for like what .. ? Year ?

For me its just derp, nothing more nothing less..
[Wildfire Android Development] ShyamSasi:
As mentioned before there is no ETA but soon it'll be coming :)
[Wildfire Android Development] jim-bo:
Well, if you are so unhappy with the speed that this volunteer team of people are releasing the new version, why don't you go and re-implement all their hard work yourself instead?

Or, failing that, why not send them a donation of some money. For that matter, if you send them a few hundred dollars, they might even consider releasing the beta code to you :P

But don't just whine and ***** about the fact that a free tool, written by people who aren't being paid to do this, hasn't already been released, and that's no good because you want it now.
[Wildfire Android Development] ehoo:
I dont, did you ever saw me whining ? that was MY opinion on that case. Its not like i care about S-OFF at all...
[Wildfire Android Development] bpye:
-snip wrong thread-
[Wildfire Android Development] Hooda_mask:
when AlphaRev to wildfire

will be available?????????????

i cant waittttttttttttttttttttt
[Wildfire Android Development] ramdroid77:
I'm looking for news when I check on this thread and no endless crying when it's available. Can anyone quote my previous post please?
[Wildfire Android Development] :
waiting for UNREVOKED for over 4months.

waiting for ALPHAREV for over 7months.

whatever the purpose is, waiting is common for all.

seems strange, huh

really painful to see every wildfire user is waiting for something. Wildfire is having hard days.
[Wildfire Android Development] hans3103:
And if you are not rooted already, alpharev is useless so you have to wait for both........
[Wildfire Android Development] f0xy:
This is the most recent one ram :)
[Wildfire Android Development] f0xy:
This is one of the early ones from Jan 31st
[Wildfire Android Development] :
for those who r not rooted, have to wait for unrevoked first, then wait for alpharev2 and still the game is not over.

one more wait for another alpharev version to be supported with HBOOT 1.01

ohhhhh..... what a long journey.

one will definately have a new phone before this journey ends.
[Wildfire Android Development] nhnt11:
If unrevoked finds away to bypass the HBOOT protection, it's very likely the same exploit will work to flash AlphaRev. Stop posting the same old laments over and over and go buy a new phone. Wildfire is dead if you don't have root.
[Wildfire Android Development] :
edit: never mind ............
[Wildfire Android Development] Hooda_mask:
I feel i will hate HTC Wildfire

My Patience is oveeeeeeeeeeer

No Importance To HTC Wildfire Without ROOT

(Sorry For My Bad ENG)
[Wildfire Android Development] 3xeno:
Wrong thread really. AlphaRev will not give you root, even if it were to release today.
[Wildfire Android Development] Lloir:
Are we there yet? :D :D :D :D :D
[Wildfire Android Development] ErwinP:
My god.

The answer: no.
[Wildfire Android Development] Lloir:
Erwin dont think you got the joke......nvm
[Wildfire Android Development] ErwinP:
Ow, in that case I'm sorry :D the problem is that you realy can expect replies like that..

But again, sorry :D normaly I do have a little more sence of sarcasm!
[Wildfire Android Development] Henkdrenth:
Let's guess: Donkey from Shrek? :D
[Wildfire Android Development] \/insanitY:
im sorry but im relatively new with this but is this thread about rooting official HTC froyo phones?
[Wildfire Android Development] ShyamSasi:
No ... This thread is about getting the Security Flag off for HTC devices. And no it will not work for updated HBOOT i.e Froyo
[Wildfire Android Development] \/insanitY:
thanks for the quick reply :D
[Wildfire Android Development] hans3103:
The best way is still the xtcclip.... s-off in a few seconds.. so for all the disapointed people buy one or find one.
[Wildfire Android Development] Necrodais:
Tיh XTC Clip costs about 200 USD, witch is mostly the same price for a new Wildfire here, so nobody should buy it. For now, I don't REALLY care about S-OFF, it's just a BIG BONUS, but not that A MUST. Thanks to Danne for his hard work.
[Wildfire Android Development] :
Disappointed? At what? AlphaRev is not a rooting tool, it's a tool to use after rooting.
[Wildfire Android Development] bortak:
XTC Clip

I know that this might be a little off topic but.. the XTC Clip is a piece of hardware that runs a piece of software on a device such as the buzz right? (I figured that since it can be updated), so I was wondering if it would be possible to get the software and use it on the phone without the clip. Any views/ ideas? :confused:
[Wildfire Android Development] drizztje:
You must be a manager :)
[Wildfire Android Development] dcos:
LOL Dilert's manager :D

I really LMAO-ed
[Wildfire Android Development] :
Hardware is the key word here. The software only controls it. Without that hardware, software cannot do anything.
[Wildfire Android Development] Necrodais:
Too bad there's no a specific ETA for Wildfire. :(
[Wildfire Android Development] bpye:
The Wildfire alpharev is complete. It is the other devices versions that we are waiting for.
[Wildfire Android Development] gremsems:
Okay, so where did you get the 2.0 wildfire proof alpharev from then?
[Wildfire Android Development] pan_pietrek:
Can't you folks just sit and wait?

He got his phone s-off'ed because IEF from alpharev had to test the exploit before claiming it done, Ben volounteered and got himself new HBOOT :-)
[Wildfire Android Development] bpye:
I'm testing for IEF, not gonna give proof, no point.
[Wildfire Android Development] will8578:
Good for you ben, i paid 20 quid for s-off last week, best 20 i ever spent because the phone is so much better,dont worry doubters you all download as soon as its released, by the way it would be nice to thank ben rather than doubt him :-)
[Wildfire Android Development] gremsems:
Okay, was just wondering, got my Desire HD rooted for ages now, so I win hands down anyway :P
[Wildfire Android Development] keyra74:
i don't need more proof than the fact that your hboot is on 2.x

can't wait for its release
[Wildfire Android Development] unstoppable_punk_brainiac:
Gooood job :D I bet we al can't wait to see the final release :D Anyway , you're the best! :)
[Wildfire Android Development] -Howard-:
Jacob just tweeted this http://alpharev.nl/x/ :D and he says it will root wildfires on 2.2? but still coming soon... :(
[Wildfire Android Development] morbosity:
OMG , My waiting pants are so on!

might get a hat
[Wildfire Android Development] f0xy:
Nice one alpha rev guys!
[Wildfire Android Development] gogusteliade:
when you say "it will root wildfires on 2.2" you mean make it S-off or root like unrevoked, coz a few pages back,someone said that alpharev will work only with rooted wildfires?
[Wildfire Android Development] -Howard-:
I know, im usure hopefully both i am just going by what Jacob said. We can only wait and see.
[Wildfire Android Development] StratOS_HTC:
Guess it won't be so soon anyway. We'll wait 4 it....
[Wildfire Android Development] hani93:
i know, that this is stupid question, but when will it be released? here, in estonia , on my hand waiting 4 wildfire-s :S
[Wildfire Android Development] f0xy:
Release put on hold for a few months because people mither too much :)
[Wildfire Android Development] JoeyDelp:
One question, why is the screen of the Wildfire in the vid so cracked? Is that what it takes to get it s-off? Smash it with a hammer :)

Sent from my hand to the keyboard using my mind
[Wildfire Android Development] Sympnotic:
It costs less for a phone you won't use to buy a broken device :)
[Wildfire Android Development] Buldog:
it s the new feature:

scratch on / scratch off

broken glass is good for developing, you don´t need to brick it anymore ;)
[Wildfire Android Development] JoeyDelp:
I concur, that wildfire was probably bricked and alpharev fixed it :D
[Wildfire Android Development] Henkdrenth:
That's how they reach the display and paint "S-OFF"on it :D
[Wildfire Android Development] Buldog:
I hope, they will release it soon :)

can´t wait ...
[Wildfire Android Development] gogusteliade:
good one! :)))
[Wildfire Android Development] f0xy:
Withe the s-off guys will you be releasing some partition tables with it or are we to do it ourselves using a guide ive seen?
[Wildfire Android Development] zexcrazy:
I guess they will. That would be great
[Wildfire Android Development] bluedragon1982:
I think it will still take ages :/ its now over 8 month ago since IEF told me that there will be e release soon. Thats one of the Poinrs why i own a Nexus One and a Desire now. AlphaRev did a great job with the Desire SPL i realy love it. But the Wildfire realy sucks after 6 month :/ compared with my G1 (i still own and love it) or my sold MT3G its realy bad - the wildfire with 2.1/2.2 sense or cm7 (many thanks to HCDRJacob (his work for the ZTE Blade is also perfect) for it, he is a great Developer) feels not fast as the G1,the G1 has OpenGL support and a bigger screen (MDPI). So if you think about an cheap replacement for your Wildfire, than you should think about the ZTE Blade (HDPI/OpenGL/CM7 support) or the Geeksphone Zero.

PS: i know its a bit off topic. But i had to say it somewhere and dont like to open a topic for that. Sorry
[Wildfire Android Development] hacktrix2006:
How about you give the AlphaRev team a break.

Have you ever thought its taking time because they want there work to work without the bricking of phones so that after they release they are not getting the YOU BRICK MY PHONE pointing game.

Not only that they are doing it for free in there own time. People have lives you know. Flame me if you wish but pestering will not get you anywhere it will just delay the teams work.

So it will be out when they feel its ready for public use and not before. Be grateful they are working on the wildfire.

And before you all ask "Are we there yet" no.
[Wildfire Android Development] BarclayTech:
If people think its taking a long time then why dont they do it theirselves.... Wait. Whats that. You cant?? Then just respect the people who bother helping people
[Wildfire Android Development] hacktrix2006:
That was what i was trying to point out. But at least someone else agrees with me on this.
[Wildfire Android Development] ErwinP:
Believe me, there a more people then just one that agree with you ;-)
[Wildfire Android Development] wesleyvdbrink:
Same here!

I cant wait and want to post all the time for a status, but its just sit back and relax till they release :)
[Wildfire Android Development] Ouistyty:
I do agree with the posts before me.

Yeah, sit back and relax. Eating my fingers nail and checking this forum every 4 hours.:)

Hummm.... thinking of it, that is not relaxing :-D

Keep up the good work alpharev team.