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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zeren83:
Hi bronx,

Thanks anyways, but I know what you mean, but if it doesn't replace the start menu, I would rather use it as a today screen. it looks nice
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
If you read a few posts back it can replace the WM start menu, it is only a matter of tweaking registry and using Ameba.

Post 10

Disabling the standard start menu:
This is all before i've installed the cab to disable the standard start-menu.
Installing the cab doesn't change anything, hard to tell if it free some RAM.
Afther that I enabled the Start Menu button (softkey) by adjusting the following registry:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Bubble Tiles]
"TextModeEnabled"=dword:00000001
"HardwareStartKeyEnabled"=dword:00000000
"HardwareDoneKeyEnabled"=dword:00000000
When the buttons are visible again they don't have any function
After all that i've used AMEBA to start MMAppLauncher when I press the Start Menu and it works.
The start-menu hardwarekey is easy to adjust in the regular button settings.

After all this configuring/tweaking:
No matter if the program is started already or if i'm in CHT or not, MMAppLauncher will start when i hit the start button.

This will eventually be implemented as a cab when the program is more stable:

Post28

If this app its ok and working i can make a cab that will do all the replacement jobs, ameba settings etc for completly replace the startmenu and get back 25-40mb of RAM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bronx:
^ thanks for clarifying that mate. ;) uhhh... can't wait enough for final/updated version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Thunderer64:
Excellent piece of work - can't wait for the updates and final version :)

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Hammerfest:
ah another thing, remove the "all programs" bar at the top... not needed/redundant...

also get .net crash on hitting the bottom right button...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] omek07:
thanks you for this app

but it doesnt work on omnia II with 6.5.3 greek rom

it sent me error DirectoryNotFound

if you can check it

thanksssssss
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] colossus_r:
Its only for www (english) roms for now... wait for final release to install on greek roms

A sugestion to the developer

To avoid problems like this maybe is good to add an option to select the start menu folder (like in quickmenu) This will solve all the multilanguage roms problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Beta testing phase one will be ended. The current CAB at post 1 will not be able to run anymore. I do it this way so that test version CAB doesn't last longer then it should be ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Thanks for the suggestion. The app now uses system variable for getting system folders. The app is now supported for multi-language path. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] colossus_r:
Ok m8... nice to hear that... thats a better solution ......we waiting for the final release.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] omek07:
hello again

I have and a HTC HD with wwe rom

I install it and i have error

Could not find file

\Windows\close_all_64.png

What i can do for this ????
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
A new test version will be released very shortly. Just hang tight for now :o.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] omek07:
thank you my friend i will wait
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Beta Test Version 2 Started

I would like to say thanks to all of those who have tested Test Version 1. I've adjusted the app to your bug reports and suggestions. Now Beta Test Version 2 is started and will end on 10/15/2010.

I hope that this version will fix many problems that people encountered in Test Version 1. Again thank you.

Please report any bugs you find and/or suggestions you could think up for this Test Version 2. Happy Testing!!! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] omek07:
Man thanks for your new version

but i have :

1.directory not found on OMNIA II with greek rom a second from opening the program , and i cant see the shortcuts

2. On the Htc blackstone i open the program i can see the Shortcuts and i can play with it for a while but and here i have directory not found ( WWE ROM ENERGY)

edit : I am s.t.u.p.i.d. i install the previous cab sorry for the mess
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Yusuke14:
Very nice update, this is quickly becoming a full start menu replacement. One suggestion I can think of is folder support in the settings menu as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mitsi:
Excellent update. I think it works really well. It seems to take 2.2Mb of ram based on the number of shortcuts I have (quite a few) in my start menu.

Unfortunately (for me only) I have cooked in OcMan's start menu replacement and cannot uninstall it until I can find the manila file responsible!

Your program has more functionality than OcMan's one so I prefer it although it will increase the number of apps running concurently and possibly the ram too although OctMan's one runs in manila, I don't know how much ram it consumes.

Thanks for a great app! :cool:

Edit: Well, I managed to get rid of OcMan's start menu and replaced it with yours, but I could not use it in conjunction with Arto's remove WM6.5 start menu so this did not end up releasing any ram. I think it doesn't replace the memory hungry WM6.5 start menu, but instead goes on top of it? I may be wrong though. Can you confirm please Maximus? I would very much like to use yours...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
Great BETA, keep it up

Check out POST#10 (last post first page) how to really disable the start menu and make the start button go straight to MMAppLauncher:)

There's some little program needed and some registry tweaking. Also the program Ameba is needed. Good luck!

I've played this morning with the 2nd beta and it's awesome! Not superstable but it's on his way.

- Great to have folder support:D

- Awesome to move/delete shortcuts.

- Great to change the icons this easy and that pictures are allowed

My comment/questions/suggestions:

- Close (minimize) the app after starting an application.

- When starting the program (again) always start in the All Programs (instead of where you leaved it). It's annoying to press back 3 times when i was browsing in a sub-sub-subfolder.

- Option to hide the 5 buttons on the bottom. Personally I don't use the recent, favorite, run, settings options much since I've an organized start-menu with many folders. Could we hide them to have more space? (disable/enable from menu or reactable?)

- Option to start the program in an folder (like: "\Program Files\MMAppLauncher\MMAppLauncher.exe" -\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\).

Then it will be awesome to place shortcuts on the today screen (manila)

- Landscape support? When i slide my keyboard open (touch pro 2 user) the program turns out very well. But I can only see 4 links and must scroll allot. Also the bottom menu show's an empty place on the right bottom (you'll see what's behind it).

Keep up to great work and if you need an tester just let me know;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
diable the start menu, set MMAppLauncher as default

I think your start menu is on top? I don't know how to remap the start menu botom on that builds...

First of all: Works on WM 6.5.X, i don't have tested this on 6.5!

1: Disabling the standard start menu:

- Install the cab to disable the standard start-menu (botom first post).

- Arto Start menu Remover wm6.5.cab (what does this do? Does it work?)

- Arto Start menu Remover wm6.5.x.cab

2: Make the Start Menu Button visible again

Afther that I enabled the Start Menu button (softkey) by adjusting the following registry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Bubble Tiles]

"TextModeEnabled"=dword:00000001

"HardwareStartKeyEnabled"=dword:00000000

"HardwareDoneKeyEnabled"=dword:00000000

When the buttons are visible again they don't have any function.

3: Give them the function that's needed:

After all that i've used AMEBA to start MMAppLauncher when I press the Start Menu and it works.

The start-menu hardwarekey is easy to adjust in the regular button settings.

After all this configuring/tweaking:

No matter if the program is started already or if i'm in CHT or not, MMAppLauncher will start when i hit the start button.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mitsi:
Thanks again bigchrizzieboy. The process in WM6.5 is perhaps somewhat different to WM6.5.x. Arto's WM6.5 start menu disable program adds about 6 files of 0kb in size to the Windows folder. StartMenu_Global_480x800.cpr is an example of one of them, the other 5 are similar. It does no more than replace the ones in the Windows folder. There are no registry tweaks with his program, so I don't know where I can find the correct registry to re-enable it....

Damn it ;) Without this knowledge, WM6.5 users can't free up this memory. :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Thunderer64:
I have just installed the latest test verion of this program, really like the progress from the initlial version :D thanks :D

One observation though, when I do a "soft-Restart" on my HD2 the "Recent" tab is cleared of all my recently used programs. Is this working as designed or is this a bug? :confused::confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mwalt2:
Thanks for the update Maximus. Is the final version going to be free with no time bomb?

edit - I was just browsing folders on the programs tab and the program crashed with the following:

The settings tab also seems to get messed up on my device (SYS 21680). It displays everything in the start menu with the settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] uzziah0:
Downloaded version2 and it looks good.

I had an exception when I opened the Settings, but after a soft reset it is working OK now.

I am using an Dell Axim x51v with WM 6.5.x by makuu (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=586875).

I'm looking forward to using this regularly.

When it "expires" does it disable itself, or will I have to uninstall it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] omek07:
+1

the new version it work very good
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mitsi:
I have managed to re-assign the start button in WM6.5 using the technique described in this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8484772#post8484772 number 5 by Pupacota. :D

One more bug to report - Favourites tab is titled "Recent"!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ed_sambo:
Error Report

Hi

I think this will be a great program, unfortunately I have not been able to get it working. It loads as far as the first screen but with no programs and then bombs out with an error. Please see the attached screen shots to see what I mean.

I am on:

NRG WWE Cookie Dinik 21679 CHT 2.0b 27 Sep

Radio 2.14.50.04

Hope this helps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] seeM_ZA:
I just installed this and it seems to be working fine so far. It's really awesome, I must say ;)!

There are only two things I can recommend to improve it further:

It would be really great if this program was skinnable (not necessary but it would be amazing).

Icon texts that span over 2 lines should be aligned to the center (at least I think it would look a lot better that way).

Congrats and good luck!

EDIT: Just encountered a bug, went something like this:

Everything worked fine the first time round.

I changed the theme to white and restarted the phone.

When going to the fourth tab of the app (the one with a list of .exe's) it seemed to be loading for a bit and then crashed with the error below. This happens every time now (even after changing back to black theme).

I hope this helps :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigdd15:
I am getting th following error and MMApplauncher hs to be shut down when opening settings tab:

It works fine on beta one , but crashed on the later one
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] colossus_r:
Why the time bomb ???

Maximus..

Thanks for the new version ... i will test later and be back for results...

But i have 2 questions :

1. Is this app going commercial ????

2. Why we still have the time bomb ????

Thanks for your work...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
It seems that the DirectoryNotFoundException is caused by working threads trying to run at the same time. This is caused by tapping quickly between panels (home, recent, favorite, etc). I have managed to pint point and fixed this.

I have tested the new fixed version on a French WM 6.5 emulator and it works fine.

The new fixed version is not yet uploaded to the first post.

For those who have COMException, it seems that the ROM that you are using is missing a system DLL file that handles drawing transparent images. The DLL file GUID is 327ABDA7-072B-11D3-9D7B-0000F81EF32E. Please verify with your chef on this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Could you guide me through this? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Yes, i'm planning to publish this to the MarketPlace for a small fee. However, there might be a Lite version that is free to use.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NRGZ28:
Well in that case I suggest everyone to stop beta testing for you... I know I am. We're not here to be your guinea pigs, so you can go make money with it on the Marketplace :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
I personally don't force anyone to beta testing for me. People test it on their own will. If anyone has similar feeling as NRGZ28, feel free to stop. I personally think that creating an app costs time and effort, and it should worth something. Even you have a big donate button on your signature, that has to be some similarity between our purposes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mitsi:
Ok.

Step 1

Use Arto's start menu remover.

Step 2

Set up the Startbutton.exe program:

Download the Startbutton.exe program (from within the attached zip courtesy of Pupacota) and place in \Program Files folder (or wherever you like). Ignore the shortcut in the zip file.

Launch the Startbutton.exe using file explorer. This will give you the registry entries that weren't there before.

Change the registry to:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\allelimo\StartButton]

"HookWinKey"=""

"HookText"="1"

"Run"="\Program Riles\MMAppLauncher\MMAppLauncher.exe"

I think that's it. You may need to soft reset afterwards, but this should work.

Whilst writing, can I report one more bug: it is quite hard to launch a program from this because it tries to scroll instead of launch. Perhaps my finger is still moving slightly, but perhaps it could be a little less sensitive to scrolling in order to make launching a bit easier when done with my finger....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NRGZ28:
That's true.. but I provide my ROMs for free. BIG difference. I think if you commited to provide a free version for the XDA community, then it would be a different story. But, these time-bombed releases are not they way to do it, that's for sure.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Well, to be clear, these releases are only meant for testing and contains lots of bugs. I don't want an unstable CAB version to last longer then it should.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Does this work with Wm 6.5.x? As I looked at his/her source code, it's aiming more toward 6.5 :confused:. The current test version 2 should already did what the startbutton.exe does.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mitsi:
This works with WM6.5. I don't know about 6.5.x. bigchrizzieboy has a solution for that. I must admit, the ram seemed to be quite high in ram usage, so I assumed it did not disable the WM6.5 start menu. Are you sure it does?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
MMAL doesn't disable the Start Menu but instead run on top of it. As disable the Start Menu seems to only work in WM 6.5 and causes the system to hang in WM 6.5.x. I'll look into this :o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
REALLY disable the start menu in 6.5.X !

Hi, already posted this 2 times (#10 & #75):

1: Disabling the standard start menu:

- Install the cab to disable the standard start-menu (botom first post).

- Arto Start menu Remover wm6.5.x.cab

2: Make the Start Menu Button visible again:

Afther that I enabled the Start Menu button (softkey) by adjusting the following registry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Bubble Tiles]

"TextModeEnabled"=dword:00000001

"HardwareStartKeyEnabled"=dword:00000000

"HardwareDoneKeyEnabled"=dword:00000000

When the buttons are visible again they don't have any function.

3: Give them the function that's needed:

After all that i've used AMEBA to start MMAppLauncher when I press the Start Menu and it works.

The start-menu hardwarekey is easy to adjust in the regular button settings.

After all this configuring/tweaking:

No matter if the program is started already or not, MMAppLauncher will start when i hit the softkey-start-button.

Clear enough? More informations/screenshot needed?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
Sorry bro, I must have missed it :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bigchrizzieboy:
no problemo

No problem:)

I understand it's hard to keep up with the apps you make:D

Simply post when you need anything, I'm monitoring this awesome app.

THANKS for creating;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ddeathmetal:
Bottom icons and curtain!!!

Can u make there Icons with drop shadow on it? current icons look not deep and not eyes candy... look at the icons from Original WM start menu for example! :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] omek07:
Maximus.Mobile

Please don put money on this program

or if you cant do anything else make a lite version

Please......

Thanksssss
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
There will be a lite version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] colossus_r:
I was ready to make a cab that it will auto disable the startmenu install the mmApplauncher and make all the reg entrys but....

I am not going to use this if its going commercial....

And i am not goint to test any other version.....

Its developer desicion to go commercial since he put a lot of work to it but a lot of other ppl do the same and the give tey work to XDA for free...

If it will be a free version the i use it and i will make that cab...

Thanks for your work Maximus ..

I still think this is a promising app for replacing the Startmenu
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NRGZ28:
I know I would donate for a full version if he decided not to go commercial. And I'm sure a lot of other people would as well, if I linked it in my ROMs and in all of my threads. That would be a LOT of exposure for him.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] J_M_H:
NRGZ28, I think your point is moot because this program won't run on your ROMs, according to Maximus. See posts 82 and 86 in this thread. I'm getting the same COM error using 29 Sept 21680 Standard Energy.

I think we need to know what the difference between the free and paid versions (and the price!) will be in order to decide if it's worth it to continue to beta.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NRGZ28:
It doesnt run on SOME of my ROMs because it's not finalized yet. It runs on the ROM currently on my device, without a problem... otherwise I wouldn't waste my time in this thread.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
This thread main purpose is to beta test an windows mobile application. I'm NOT trying to sell or force you to do anything. Also, as how I always do it, people who involve in beta testing usually get access to the "final version".

If you have any other concerns or comments, feel free to email me. I would love to have a conversation.

Please let's have our attention back to the point.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sv0911:
Hi Maximus,

i´m testing your app right now on Omnia i8000 wm 6.5.3

Everything works fine, i only have one question, i have in the wm start menu 2 shortcuts for settings, one is samsung settings

and the other is wm settings which is actually a folder containing sytemsettings, personalsettings, screen a.s.o settings and i can not locate this wm settings shortcut or the folder to add it to MMAppL..

Can you give me a hink where it is located or anyone else knows..?

I looked for it under program files, start menu, windows a.s.o but could not find it...

Greetings

sv0911
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
On my Omnia i900L with ock's Rom Titanium Premium WM 23129, it works quite well. When opening it takes some 8 seconds to show the programs.

The UnauthorizedAccessException i get while in the 2nd last tab, after some 20 seconds to be there, either if i try to launch a program or not. In the settings tab i had the same exception in some occasions, but now i could be there and open up all settings without problems. The only thing is that when i close the setting that i opened, MMLauncher goes in background. Also below the settings there are all programs again, like in the first tab.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maximus.Mobile:
These setting items are from all the cpl files under Windows. There is no particular folder where all settings items located. You could create a folder under start menu with all custom settings ;)

UnauthorizedAccessException is from some files under Windows which is probably currently in used and won't share access with other programs. As for the second problem you mention, I've pin point and fix it as it was problem with worker threads fighting to do their job.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mwalt2:
Good to hear. I'm looking forward to the next version. I don't build my roms with Skymarket, so hopefully you change your mind or the lite version retains most of the basic functionality :). Thanks for the work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mitsi:
One more bug. When trying to change the icons, you longpress the existing icon to bring up the menu where you can choose to change the icon. Doing this also launches the program.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] colossus_r:
AIO MMAppLauncher by Colossus

I decide to continue testing this app sinse maximus wrote here that it will be a lite free version.

So i made a cab that will do the following :

1. Install the MMAppLauncher cab

2. Disable the Windows Startmenu (get about 30mb more free ram on blackstone )

3. Make all registry entrys to have the launcher start after sofreset and

from windows key.

When you install please revert to original Windows Startmenu (not the compact from NRG roms)

I have tested this on WWE NRG Roms cht 2.0 and cht 1.85.

Just install and softreset ...

Please report here any problems
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sv0911:
Big thanks colossus_r,

i will try it.. and report if there any problems..!!!

@maximus:

when i add some items in favorites, they disappear after

softreset... Is it a bug or did i missed something ?

Greetings

sv0911
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sv0911:
colossus_r,

i just installed it and have made softreset.

I tried to start the app via the windows startbutton

on my wm 6.5.3 (omnia i8000) and the windows flag just

freezes for about 10 seconds and the app will not launch..

Do i have to use still ameba for get it running with the

windows startbutton or did i something wrong?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] colossus_r:
Propably ameba needs the assigment of the windows key on omnia...

go to ameba and make the changes...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sv0911:
Yes my friend,

with ameba everything works just fine..!!

Again, BIG THANKS for sharing your solution...!!!!!

Greetings

sv0911