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[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
kingmook of Canada wrote:

'Hello community members. I hold in my hand my new HTC Desire Z. If there is anything I can do to contribute simply ask (no you can't have my phone :P)

Help me help you.'
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Clove still hasn't shipped mine, and that kind of sucks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] p3eps:
Not long now... hopefully it'll be sent by Royal Mail and my postman usually comes before 10am!

As for the hinge - I'm not fussed about it coming undone when I hold it above my head! However... I am a little worried that it might open whilst in my pocket. I guess it depends how loose it really is. Its not going to open if its in a case - but depending on the size, I might not want it in a case!

I suppose I've got my distance selling regulations to fall back on if I don't like it!

----

Actually - I've just looked on superEtraders website and my distance selling regulation only applies if I don't OPEN the box!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
havn't seen this one but it was a good video, the DZ will be my first android phone, stuck with WM as from 2005 ...

I am getting anxious with every minute ... if my DZ will not be on the way to my house on friday will cancel pre-order with expansys and go to the local shop and buy one to have a great weekend :-) and use that extra VAT (22% in Poland) as a cost of running a business, can't be bother waiting any longer ...
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
1000 posts for a "waiting" thread

Wow
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Exactly same here...

P.S. Just made post no.1000, 100/100 pages. Nice.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mccabeross:
The terms on their website doesn't mean diddly sqaut... trust me.

http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/general/oft698.pdf

particularly section 3.58 - the law over-rules anything stated in their T&C
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
Distance selling regs ftw :)

This is going to be a very long day at work knowing my Z will be at home waiting for me.... :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
For those who'll recieve the phone today: Don't keep us in the dark over here!!!

Share your thoughts, your experience with the phones...

We're still dreaming for a confirmation of a deliverydate on the mainland... :$

ps Nobody comes to Belgium from the UK this weekend?

I'll by you a beer if you bring a phone for me with you... ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
I agree.. I've left a note for the courier to drop off at my neighbours but not sure if they will. Best case I'll have it tonight, worse case will have to drive to courier depot (likely miles away) on Saturday morning!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
:( i tried to get my shipping address changed but i think i failed epically. Lucky for me the other half is at home as she's off work & has been instructed to not leave the house till a Desire Z shaped box arrives :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Still much better than wait until Monday. Going to be quite a nice trip back from that depot if you ask me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
LOL :-) "do NOT, I repeat, do NOT open the box before I come back!" ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
Hmm, a little white box has just arrived. I wonder what it contains.....
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Just informed my office reception I may or may not be having a package delivered today, tomorrow or monday...
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
congratulations 1000/100 poster.
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
She was threating to hide it & make me do chores round the house in kind of a treasure hunt style the evil woman :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
unless you live in a mansion I would sack the chores off and just hunt the house :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
that's the plan :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
I found the forum a *lot* easier to use since I changed the posts per page count to 50 (Control Panel->Edit Options->Thread Display Options). This thread is only 21 pages for me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
Ooo, it comes with a 8GB microSD card, I wasn't expecting that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
class 2?

10char
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Would you be able to tell or test on PC to find out what class is it? I was thinking to get 8 or 16GB either class 6 or 10.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
It should say the class on the thing itself.

HTC have always shipped class 2's in the past, but now they have leaped to giving us 8gb hopefully they would have upped it to a class 4 but I would not hold your breath.

Class 4 should be plenty good enough for most people.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
I'll let you guys know once I've finshed setting it up. Please be patient, I will let you know in good time!
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
Okay, now I've got the back off it again it contains a Samsung 8GB class 2. About 2GB of space seems to have been used, I'm guessing for the maps, I don't know for sure as I'm still getting my Android legs after using WinMo for years.
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
Thats Sim free with a T-Mob Sim only contract sold with it.

Also note just spoke to my Contact in my local Phones 4 U & they HAVE Desire Z in stock!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
That is to say, Class 2 would leave me wanting something better? (I have no experience using these)
[G2 and Desire Z General] will_riot:
I think the question on everyone's mind is...how's the hinge ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
the class refers to how quick they read/write

So basically a class 2 is the lowest you can get, so the slowest making moving stuff too and from your phone a massive pain but also slows things like apps2sd down.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
If the hinge still is really bad I am wondering if a little bit of this would work?

http://www.amazon.com/Extra-Flexible-Adhesive-Magnetic-Dispenser/dp/B000NNQ1CK
[G2 and Desire Z General] Janik_dk:
CommanderAce:

What languages could you choose from when you sat it up?

Thanks - and congratulations with the new phone :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] diffusal:
Hi guys, I am really interested in getting this phone probably from clove. If anyone else here has already preordered/ordered the dz from clove can they please give me a heads up once they receive the phone. I want to know what the hinge is like from the Clove stock, have they fixed the hinge problem?? Does the hinge get looser as you use it more???

It will probably be impossible for me to send it back to exchange for a better hinge etc. due to shipping costs being damn expensive in Australia.

Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Well, the single review on Amazon would suggest otherwise, heh.

But I've read somewhere in the G2 forums that thin line of Velcro might do the job, so a magnet could work just as well (and without the crappy Velcro snap noise)

Edit: this comment was directed at Lennyuk. Man this thread is so fast.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
Okay, the hinge.

It is reasonably firm, not loose by any means. It is true that if you hold it upside down by the back half it does drop, but honestly, who does that?

As a whole it feels very sturdy, heavier than I expected but that a good thing in my opinion. The aluminium is a nice touch, they back panel is easy to release, but not that easy that its going to come undone all the time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
well maybe not that exact item, but a very thin magnet strip (you can get them)

It would be both thinner and stronger than velcro

Edit: and no silly velcro noise :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
Thank you. Well, looking in the Locale section of the settings I get the following options:

English

Espanol

Francias

Italiano
[G2 and Desire Z General] will_riot:
My thoughts exactly, if you're going to spend the whole time holding the phone upside down waiting to watch it droop....you're an idiot.

I quite like having a heavy phone, that way I'm always sure it's in my pocket as I feel off balance when it's not there.

Damn I'm jealous of you.
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Three words made me smile? "Ready to ship" :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I'm prepared for Android, I'm running Android port on my WinMo phone for more than a month now :-)

Did you run SpeedTest to see any HSPA+ crazy download speed?
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
same here, expansys order?
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
I'm at work right now (Which is basically a huge Faraday cage in the middle of the countryside) and can only get EDGE so no. When I'm in town next I will.
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
install custom locale from market.

you can setup any language you want.
[G2 and Desire Z General] AgaZaKa:
Yesterday at 12.42 I've got email from Superetrader that my order has been shipped. After 4pm I received email from tech support where I complained about their website and they told me my order will be shipped today. And guess what? Today I've got another email from Superetrader telling my my phone has been shipped. So when the hell they shipped it?

I feel rather cheated at the moment. Website is poor, they sent me misleading emails, I can't check order online because my account is empty and I couldn't even pay by Amex. Not good experience. Will be happy when phone arrives but I definitely won't use their website again.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
Thank you. I barely passed my GCSE German so I think I'll just stick to English, thats probably for the best!

I have a lot yet to learn about Android and the market place, but it all looks very good.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
A lot of places don't accept Amex because of the ammount they charge commercial people to accept them (way more than to accept Visa or Maestro)
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
states: ready to ship - but then when you dig even more - in our supplier 2 days... wth?
[G2 and Desire Z General] elmadhoun:
That would be weird if the first thing you'd do when you receive the new D-Z is hold it upside down to watch it drop!!! I think we should move past that and look into the phone...I'm still waiting for handtec send mine...Nothing as of yet.

Did anyone receive an update from Handtec about shipping?
[G2 and Desire Z General] AgaZaKa:
I know. That's why I prefer to use bigger suppliers who can swallow cost of using Amex. 2 days ago it seemed this company is the only one with phone in stock and it was the only reason I ordered there.

I wonder if anyone else received second email from Superetrader? Or maybe phone was delivered today?
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
I'm going to do that now when i get home just for the lulz
[G2 and Desire Z General] p3eps:
Damned postman is still not here - why does he choose to be late on the day I'm waiting for something?!

My only concern at the moment is that I got another email from superEtrader this morning saying that my unit has been shipped. An identical email to the one I got yesterday at about 12pm. Why?!? Have they really just shipped it today?!
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
Yes, I got a second dispatch email this morning, an hour after receiving the actual phone. Strange.
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
i've not received a second email yet from superetrader & i ordered with them...

maybe it's just a system glitch?
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
But if U look even deeper U will see they have it on warehouse
[G2 and Desire Z General] wiggey1337:
you may be recieving two for the price of one ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
I've not received a second e-mail from them either. Now hoping my neighbours have accepted it and it will be waiting for me when I get home! Thanks to those of you sharing initial experiences :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] AgaZaKa:
What company delivered the phone? Courier or RM? Than it will give me idea when I can receive it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I did some research on HSPA+ networks in Ireland, can't find much but looks like Three and Vodafone might have already upgraded.

I will be getting Broadband-only SIM card from Three just to check the speeds :-) HSPA+ doesn't provide huge improvement as of yet, just 18Mbits, but they will be upgrading to 40 and over 100 in some time, then it's going to be LTE time (20ms ping, 300Mbit downloads).

Desire Z probably "only" supports HSPA+ up to around 20Mbits. More than enough for now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] p3eps:
Good find! Hopefully I'll love it - but its nice to know I can return it as long as I take decent care of it (which I would anyway!)
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
Or two for the price of two. I need to check my statement when I get home!

Both emails stated the same order number and I haven't received my free case and screen protector as written on the SuperETrader Desire Z webpage I wonder if they shipped them seperatly.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
I checked with superetrader yesterday and they said they are using a courier. I assume that will be the same for all (?) - don't know which one however!
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
could be maybe they got fresh stock in this morning?
[G2 and Desire Z General] CommanderAce:
I got mine delivered to work and it came via UPS.
[G2 and Desire Z General] p3eps:
I bet thats what the second email is for. Damn it - I wanted to put the screen protector on before touching it as I've done with all my past HTC's.

I guess I might have to leave the original sticker with the writing on until I get a screen protector!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Guys,

I have extracted BAD news from MPD via email just now.

I said to MPD:

'MPD,

What is the update on the dispatch of my HTC Desire Z order?

My account still reads 'Pending Stock' and am concerned.

It is exactly over 24 hours ago you last emailed me with information you will be dispatching today.

This is the second order I am having with you. My first order was for a Touch Pro 2, as you can see.

I was very satisfied with that order, and the flow of information was good.

Anyway, if you are not fulfilling the order today tell me so in order for me to cancel the order and place it with a competitor who might be in stock.

With anticipation,

"my Name".

CUSTOMER.'

This is what I got:

'Hi "my Name"

We are receiving stock in on Monday so it will be with you on Tuesday.

Regards

Lauren Russell

Online Customer Services Representative'

I have just sent the following to them:

'Between yesterday and this morning, you have lied to me and contradicted yourself.

Therefore, I will be phoning your company to cancel the order. I can't live with deceit.

Bye.'

Good luck to the others who have ordered with MPD. But I think they need to be taught a lesson or two in treating customers properly and sincerely.
[G2 and Desire Z General] p3eps:
Well the postman has been into work with loads of parcels this morning. Nothing for me though! I guess its coming by courier then. The problem for me is that a 'next day' courier to Aberdeen usually means a 2 day delivery :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
yeap, that is true, that is why I live with hope in my heart that will play this phone before the weekend.
[G2 and Desire Z General] craigw2010:
Have just emailed MPD as those of us ordered with them have heard nothing and they are meant to be an official HTC partner!!

"Hi,

As an official HTC Partner, you, like the majority of UK retainers selling the Desire Z, should have received stock of the device and started shipping. Do you think you could tell your loyal customers if you have stock or not and when they can expect to receive their phones, as no correspondence has been received since the original email confirming purchase. This is appalling customer service.

Yours in anticipation,

Craig Williams"

Just hope I get a reply or some info soon!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
I have now cancelled my order with MobilePhonesDirect.

Spoke to a lady who told me they are expecting DZ tomorrow, and deliveries Tuesday, when their online chap says stock in on Monday, and phone with me Tuesday.

The lady asked me whether I couldn't wait two days seeing I have waited this long. I told her I was cancelling because I couldn't live with contradictions.

And so, I happily cancelled. Will now be looking to a company in stock, and to be reported delivering here.

Will wait on those who have received their phones to tell us their good sources.
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa Item dispatched :D

now will be waiting for the TNT courier ;-)

Just like Christmas time :-)

Hoping that tomorrow gonna be a boxing day ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
And now in addition MPD have said:

'Dear Mr "Me My Name",

Order No. "xxxxxx"

Please accept this email of confirmation that we have cancelled your order.

Thank You

Mobile Phones Direct Ltd

The Courtyard Business Centre

Farmhouse Mews

Thatcham

Newbury

Berkshire

RG18 4NW

Tel: 0845 470 4000

Fax: 0845 470 4100

email: webshop@mobilephonesdirect.co.uk

webshop: www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk

Mobile Phones Direct Ltd. operates Nokia Retail. Nokia and Nokia Connecting People are trademarks ™ of the Nokia Corporation.'
[G2 and Desire Z General] mccabeross:
In all honesty mate, if you look through this thread you will find that

every

company has been giving out misleading dates and you are going to go with one of them now...

it's just unfortunate that NYPD may be the last to stock it... by a few days, i might add.

not a big deal in the grand scheme of things...
[G2 and Desire Z General] AgaZaKa:
You were right about two orders:

"Hi,

The second dispatch was the accessories for your order. They were sent

separately as they are stored in a different warehouse.

Regards,

Superetrader "

So when I receive phone I will have to say I'm sorry for too hasty opinion about the store made in earlier post.
[G2 and Desire Z General] craigw2010:
Were you getting it on a contract tho?? I can't afford £400+ for sim free and MPD are only ones with cheap contracts and free phone!! I can wait till Tuesday if this is the truth!
[G2 and Desire Z General] zappoo:
Has anyone got an up to date story from Expansys?

I've been told expansys UK get stock tomorrow.

And since i'm in aus.. it will then be shipped to expansys Hong Kong in 5 days

and then to me 5 days or so later

i am considering cancelling and purchasing from Clove as they are saying they will dispatch today.

Any advice before i switch?

Anyone know what surchrage Clove charge for AMEX?

THANKS (and congrats to the lucky guys/girls who have their phones!!)
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
mine order with expansys: today email that the item has been dispatched, check balance on my CC and they took monies so I believe item is on it's way to Papa :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Finally got shipping confirmation from Clove! According to Fedex Tracking: Priority package, estimated delivery date... Nov 9, 2010 by 18:00 :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
even expansys.nl and .be has stock right now.

only 20 phones though

Story about benelux is dat the batch is on his to the stores.

Still waiting now :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
Please tell us what they say!
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
I know I am an insignificant minority of a customer.

But this:

'Hi "my Name"

We are dispatching your handset on the 4th November.

Regards

Lauren Russell

Online Customer Services Representative'

And then this:

'Hi "my Name"

We are receiving stock in on Monday so it will be with you on Tuesday.

Regards

Lauren Russell

Online Customer Services Representative'

should not be allowed, not in the UK anyway.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bbcomputers:
Delivery Conformation

Just got off the phone with Handtec customer service, they have stock of Desire Z's.

I ordered mine on the 5th of October, they said it will be delivered tomorrow 5th of Nov. SWEET!!!:cool:
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Yes! They should be tought the lesson. They clearly tried to make more money by lying on availability. Clove was late shipping my order, but at least they never lied.

On my email on Monday, they responded they expect stock by end of week, which is exactly what happened.

And when you get "dispatched" email and item not actually shipped, this is just ridiculous!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Stellios:
Lol what the hell, I rang them up this morning and the bloke told me if I pay for it over the phone itll be in the post today and should be delivered by 1pm tomorrow.

Rang play.com today and said that other retailers have them available now so if you cant confirm when ill have it I want to cancel the preorder to which I got the response of "we dont have stock and have no confirmed date as to when we will have stock".
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Yes I had to pay more for that. It's 1-2 days delivery, fo Fedex is probably showing latest date possible, could deliver earlier.
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
Where on the MPD website should the web chat thing be? i'm looked everywhere and can't find it. I'm sure I've used it before but I just can't see it now.

Am I going mad/blind?

Scratch that, I finally go through to a person on the phone after a mere 16 minutes on hold!!!

I have been assured that MPD will be recieving the phones tomorrow and they will be dispatched on Monday for delivery Tuesday (why they don't draft people in over the weekend to get everything sent out asap I don't know but nevermind)

When I questioned the guy on the phone as to why I was lied to on Monday and told the phones were in stock, he became very sheepish and apologetic, explaining that there had been delays etc and they didn't know when the phones would be with them until they had conformation they would arrive tomorrow.

I then asked why they hadn't let customers know about the delays when it is as simple as sending a bulk email explaining the delays and letting people know their phones would be sent asap. He was even more sheepish and apologised profusely and agreed that it was terrible customer service.

Having spoken about this, I said that I was considering cancelling my order but as he seemed to be quite genuine I would let the order stand. (of course the fact that no where else is doing the phone on o2 also helped my decision but I decided not to mention that!!! ;)

So, all you peole who have received the phone, damn you and your weekend of playing with it, I shall be getting mine next week (fingers firmly crossed of course) and the waiting will be driving me mad for another few days!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] craigw2010:
I've not seen the chat thing mate but have just received a bull**** reply from Lauren Russell!! Will have stock monday and be with you Tuesday!! The only reason I'm keeping the Faith with MPD is because they got the best T Mobile deal and everywhere else charges over £100 for the phone for the same deal!!! U getting yours on contract?

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Those who ordered the phone long time ago and still didn't get it delivered yet (like me), after reading all these reviews, unboxing videos, didn't you get bored with the phone already, before you even got it? :-D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
er.....no :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
MPD basically have me by the balls. I can't afford to buy the phone sim-free anywhere so will have to get it with a new contract (thankfully my current Vodafone contract ran out last month) and the deal I got with MPD was better than anything I'd seen elsewhere. If you're in the same situation as me, unfortunately we have to just sit tight and hope they're telling the truth this time.

I wish I were into hard drugs. I need something to get through this weekend.
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
I'm lost as to what has happened to the chat thing, it's even mentioned in a recorded message when on hold but nothing on the site that I can see.

Yeah same info on the phone, be with me Tuesday.

yeah on contract upgrade with O2, ordered a day or so before the O2 deals disappeared from the site and no where else has it on O2 as far as I can find, hence sticking with them, oh and they offering it free where as O2 wanted a load of money for the bog standard desire even through retentions.