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[Epic 4G General] scriz:
Yeah..I was looking on Craigslist for an Evo to trade for..then I remembered the camera was horrible and i'd have to buy about 5 new chargers to go in all the places i already have micro usb chargers..blah, guess ill keep the epic.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
you can buy micro usb cables on amazon for 1.99 each :) I bought about 15.
[Epic 4G General] scriz:
I have 3 micro usb cables, I was talking about if i traded my phone for the evo, i'd have to buy miniusb cables and chargers..i dont wanna invest the time.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
ah, well, if I were you I'd just buy USB chargers........and buy the cables cheap :)
[Epic 4G General] rhca50:
The evo uses micro usb just like the epic... FYI.
[Epic 4G General] ravizzle:
Umm idk if u are using the same phone as me, because not only is my epic out of the box ready for primetime, it whoops ass. Sure it has a few bugs and those will be fixed with a mr, but to say that these minor bugs are dealbreakers or something is ridiculous. The epic is pretty nice and without any froyo or bug fixes still holds it own against the droid x, nexus, evo, droid 2, and any other high end phone. If I never evr saw a single update I would still be satisfied with the epic (although I'm quite anxiously waiting for froyo) all these updates are only gonna make the phone better. What diff does a couple days mean? If ur worried about 30 day return then just return it right now, the phone is not for u. If ur not impressed with the epic as is I don't think a mr will do all that except bug fixes.

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
I will return it within 30 days if the GPS is not fixed and the upload is not fixed.

This phone is no where near ready for release in it's current form. If I didn't apply ALL THESE DIFFERENT fixes that I found on this site my experience would be this:

- Gps never locks unless I restart

- Phone lasts 5 hours from a full charge to dead

- My phone locks up when I try to upload ANYTHING in ANY program.

You really think a top end phone with those problems is "ready for release"

I've got a bridge to sell ya!
[Epic 4G General] angelo2k8:
Wow some of you like the thread starter whine over some stupid things.

It's just a phone and it works great there's need to act all silly over a delayed update...I mean really? Come on now. Go socialize with people face to face and spend a little less time so worried about your phone. Yes, software updates are cool and exciting but some of you take it waaaay to serious lol.
[Epic 4G General] GlassGorilla:
It's a delayed update that means the difference between a usable phone for 500$ (if you count the 10$ monthly) and a 250$ unusable phone that you are stuck with for 2 years unless you shell out another few hundred for something else. I'm glad that you are very well off financially and/or don't care about being able to send a picture while listening to an MP3, but this was a make or break update for many people and we were told by Sprint that it was make and so far it has been break.

That's not to say it won't be fixed, even in the next day or two, but at this point I find it rather difficult to give them the benefit of the doubt... and to ridicule people for expecting an expensive piece of equipment to function AS ADVERTISED is silly.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Nope, people like you are ok with failure, and I'm just not. That's why I have a great job and people who I talk to face to face love the fact that I'm there.

Today we're having some crazy weather here. Email and internet went down at 3:58 pm. I leave work at 4pm (I get in at 6am).

If I was sprint and samsung, I'd just go home and say "oh well who cares, they can wait a day"

Luckily for my co-workers I'm not ok with failure. I took my laptop back out of my already packed backpack sat down for about 10 mins, diagnosed and fixed the problem.

THEN I WENT HOME.

Why am I telling you this? Because these problems would never have been here in the first place if sprint/samsung was more like me, and countless others on this board.

It is a big deal that Sprint could not come through with an update to fix a major part of a phone they are selling with a 10 dollar "enhanced experience" fee when the wireless experience is WORSE then ANY PHONE RELEASED IN THE PAST YEAR (or even two years) on sprint.
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
gps is fine for me held on for hours

battery full to dead in 5 hrs is standby or usage?

i get about 5 hrs when i use it for games or movies

otherwise like 18hrs stock rom battery life on all smartphones sucks evo is no exception

thankfully we got this community to help

im sure everything will get fixed as the evo had its share of problems
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Again i said in stock forum, right out of the box, NO coming here to apply 10 different fixes for stuff everytime you reboot the phone.

My dad doesn't have the time or know how to remember to set airplane mode - or enable cold boot for the gps, or turn off the DRM service.

The phone is not usable if you just take it out of the box and expect it to last all day.
[Epic 4G General] rjmjr69:
http://www.androidcentral.com/epic-4g-update-hold-samsung-says
[Epic 4G General] GlassGorilla:
It always surprises me how many people do not realize what a small percentage of users this and/or other forums are. The average smart phone owner doesn't know these forums exists, doesn't know what a rom is, doesn't know to go to or where to look on the internet for answers/discussions, and many don't even know all the features of their phone, etc etc.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Yup. I work in IT and there are people who call me to ask why their screen is blank (ie, they dont realize their computer is turned off)

These people buy smart phones "to see their email"

They get pretty pissed when their brand new 500 dollar phone doesnt last even 8 hours.
[Epic 4G General] GlassGorilla:
That article references SAMSUNG several times (even the title/url)... have they said anything about this?!? This was all coming from Sprint as far as I knew.
[Epic 4G General] angelo2k8:
I'm sorry buddy but you have the same phone I have and it works perfectly fine. You are just nitpicking is what it seems to me. Yes, there may be some bugs here and there but overall the phone performs exactly as advertised.

Besides that, I invite you to show me one consumer electronic item that is PERFECT and never needs an update...even the best selling phone ever needs updates and has issues and I'm sure Apple has been late a couple times.

Also, I'm sure Apple doesn't have employee's that post internal information giving the consumers false hopes on a software update when it should just come OTA when it does. But please, I'll be waiting. As someone who frequents forums like these you are well aware of the different types of issues these phones have and how the networks/google operate by now.

All I'm saying is quit being so dramatic about it. Chill out.

Also, since you want to mention money...you probably shouldn't have paid $500 dollars and take such a risk if you can't afford it. I'm not happy with poor performance or just sucking it up myself but I can wait for MINOR bug fixes or feature updates. Your update will come, then you will be complaining when the next one comes around...then you will get another phone and do the same thing all over again.

If you've been that dissatisfied with their services and it's just now come to such a melting point from you then maybe you should stop buying their phones. I'm not a rocket scientist but it makes a little sense to me.

Mine is. Stop treating your PHONE like a laptop or personal computer because I'm sorry but these phones just aren't on that level yet. They are very capable of a lot of cool things but don't get mad when ur cell phone can't do backflips and start ur ****in car.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Sorry buddy but it does not work as advertised. In the commercial for the galaxy S did it say "In order to get google maps to lock on your location you need to set the gps to cold boot, or restart your phone while you're driving so that you can use the navigation" NO they did not. YES this is what you have to do in order for it to work!

Also - they advertise this as a FULL FLEDGED multimedia phone. THE PHONE LOCKS UP when you try to upload ONE picture to facebook. During the upload you can hardly even USE the phone.

T]ry uploading TEN photos to facebook or sending them in an email. The phone goes into a perm lock and no buttons even respond.

You are missing the point. Doesn't matter IF HE CAN AFFORD IT OR NOT - samsung said PAY ME 500 bucks and THIS IS what I'll give you. He paid 500 bucks and samsung did NOT deliver.

EVEN THIRTY DAYS LATER WE DO NOT HAVE A FULL FUNCTIONAL OUT OF THE BOX WITH NO MODIFICATIONS phone.

I am not asking my phone to start my car or do backflips. I am simply asking the phone to last 12 or so hours and allow me to use it normally during those 12 hours.

A normal user who doesn't visit the forum and know how to kill DRM will experience an average time of 5 hours from 100% to dead. That IMHO is a sad sad thing for both companies.
[Epic 4G General] styckx:
The sky is falling mentality about slow upload speeds is hilarious.

Nagging bug? Sure.

Garbage unusable phone that is a complete paper weight? No

It will be fixed and the X-Files like conspiracy theories are just as bad as the 'unusable phone" claims.

P.S. I upload pictures to facebook all day long, even gmail pictures and my phone never locks up.
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
You just dont get it, that's ok.

People who expect to get a great wireless experience for their extra 10 dollars do get it.
[Epic 4G General] angelo2k8:
How many phones out there like these honestly last a full 12 hours with intense use? And btw, uploading 10 photo's to facebook is heavy usage that's not even counting all the other things I can only imagine you do on your phone. If the battery dies in 2 hours it's because of your usage. Yes...the batteries on these phones don't last that long...but look at the screen, look what the phone does...it's expected. If you want it to last 12 whole hours then slow down a little.
[Epic 4G General] GlassGorilla:
We are apparently on completely opposite sides of the fence. I'll say my responses and be done with it because I just don't think we will ever see eye to eye.

That's fine if it's acceptable to you. It's not acceptable to many people. I don't think I'm nitpicking by expecting a phone to operate as it's advertised, particularly when I'm paying 10$ extra per month specifically for features that not only am I not able to use yet (4g is not in my area), I'm not even able to use the features that others who aren't paying that fee can.

I don't expect it to be perfect -- but if something is egregious, I DO expect it to be taken care of. Especially when I have an opportunity to return the phone and they tell me not to because it will be fixed. They were silent on this issue for far too long not to be completely direct with their statements.

I'm not aware of how Apple operates and yes, I am aware of many issues that are generally fixed, although most issues are not this obscene or directly related to the phone's functionality.

I agree with you that this has made people kind of dramatic, but a lot of people today just got locked into a two year contract because they were promised something that didn't happen. (at least as of yet).

Again... I don't think this is minor. And I don't think buying a device that I expect to work as advertised is a "risk". If you bought a brand new car and it was a lemon, would you really just stand there and say "lol oops shoulda got something cheaper"?

When the update comes and fixes all the egregious malfunctions and I am complaining about the shade of black the outer shell is, I give you permission to take shots at me all day.

That's the point -- many people were going to do that until they were promised an update.

So... if a computer has issues, that's when it's appropriate to start complaining? I just want to know where the line is where it's acceptable. I'm not asking the phone to do anything that it didn't claim it could do.
[Epic 4G General] angelo2k8:
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[Epic 4G General] javahead76:
deep inhale...and:

I think I've got to side against Angelo on this one. You are spending as much time complaining about people complaining as many of them are spending complaining (I think I said that right). If you love your phone great. I love mine, too. But, it's not doing anyone any good to start telling people not to be upset about the situation. I think all your achieving is making them *more* upset.

Are we impatient and possibly overly disgruntled, yes to maybe. Have most of us probably been stuck in contracts with companies that didn't give a crap because we're in a long term contract. Yes: cable TV, internet, home phone, gym membership, cellphone to name a few. It's not the $500 initial cost. It's the $3000 ($125 x 24 months) long term cost for a service with a device that none of us want to have to spend if the service with a device that we agree to pay for doesn't come as advertised.

If it's not this phone, it's another. If it's not Sprint, it's AT&T, or Verizon, or T-Mobile. Switching companies or phones isn't going to fix it - just change our current problems with the phone and Sprint to a new set of problems. None of them truly give what they promise on a consistent basis; however, we always pay what we say we will without fail (otherwise this would be a boost mobile forum).

You can't expect us to not try and fight for what we have been told we will get and it's silly of you to think that's okay. If no one spoke out or made an effort, it would never get better. The more we educate each other about our different experiences with the same companies, the more inclined they will be to do something about it. Why do you think Sprint had to make a major turn about and start seriously trying to resolve poor customer service issues. It wasn't because we all got bad service and did nothing. It was from doing what you are now telling people not to do.
[Epic 4G General] sultan.of.swing:
Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
wow this thing got completely out of hand, but i gotta agree with angelo.

Ok the phone didnt deliver what it was advertised, then return it and get another one and stop suffering from samsung or sprint or google. I do understand they made a mistake on the update, but damn who doesnt??? ( and dont even say its a big corp, they are not suppose to do that) they have even said it will take 4 days, so we still have 3 days left.

Again just return the phone if you were hoping for this update to give a 100% bug free phone, no update does that to any phone, and if you live in a forum YOU KNOW THAT!! thats why we have developers.
[Epic 4G General] badasscat:
I'm paying an extra $10 for 4G and I'm getting it.

If you're not, then return the phone. Sheesh.
[Epic 4G General] angelo2k8:
I couldn't agree more...just felt like posting because I see too much negativity for small things IMO. But anyone has the right to be upset if they paid for something bottom line.
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
i dont even need to do that

gps is fine while phone has been on for 7 days only turned off to change batteries

if he cant do that why get the evo? cuz its also a smartphone
[Epic 4G General] churro7:
im IT as well and indeed thats true but hey thats why we are there.....and sprint reps are there
[Epic 4G General] usfslacker:
I'm starting to think that you MAY just have a busted phone man. Seriously, my buddy owns this phone and yeah, the GPS is wonky and the upload cap is there, but other than that its been an extremely positive experience. No lock on upload of anything, his battery lasts him a good 14-18 hours depending on usage and a simple airplane mode toggle is all he puts into it (other than installing ADW).

Seriously though, please PLEASE go return the phone already. There's is no way you can be this pissy for this long and not have such a sour taste in your mouth from this terrible, awful, unusable, unfixable phone that even turning it into teh flawless phone you desire can change your opinion.
[Epic 4G General] javahead76:
My coworker has this phone. I taught her what a widget is 3 days ago.
[Epic 4G General] GlassGorilla:
I don't really have much input other than to say that WAS what many of us were going to do until we were told an update would fix this. We WERE going to return the phone because it 'didnt deliver what it was advertised'.... but then they lied to us on the last day and said they had a fix that WOULD make the phone deliver as advertised. Whether or not they release a fix in the next few days that actually does resolve the issue is not really relevant. People WERE gonna return it until this bogus statement came out. Now many people are stuck with the two year contract even if they don't want to be, and if the update doesn't fix the problems (whenever it does actually roll out), the end user has no recourse. I don't understand how you don't see that.
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
and you seriously believe that?? you seriously believed that with this new update that WILL BE RELEASE IN 4 DAYS the phone will be 100% bugs free?

my only issue here is the battery, because it doesnt last me more than 6 hrs, but at my work i have so many outlets as well as so many chargers(different phones) that i was only needing the cable, that "fixed" the problem for the moment, the samething was with my TP2.

3G cap i know its a big deal for almost everyone and it would been the same for me, but im always on wifi, but yeah that is kinda a annoying.
[Epic 4G General] MILcityBoi:
Some of you MEN must be on your period because you whine too F'n much.......2 updates within about a month and we still have speculation of "No support". It's obvious they are working on the fixes and as engadget,phonedog, etc, etc will tell you..."we live in a time now where beta products are basically released"....Name a phone that has been released in the last year or two without some sort of issue? You can't, not a smartphone at least..........

I really hope that the people whining all the time take their phone back and get something else. They can clog up the threads on the EVO, Iphone, Droid X/2, forum about (insert problem here) all day long.

Just be happy you have a phone, how's that?
[Epic 4G General] spf2722:
Why is there so much pissing and moaning. I dont have battery, upload, or GPS issues. Maybe its the users.
[Epic 4G General] scriz:
DRM fix helped my battery life. Yesterday I unplugged at about ~645, it went until 11 oclock when I went bed, with about 5% left.
[Epic 4G General] houkah:
Bravo man. People act like the Evo was perfect out of the box now that it's 6 months since the release with like 5 updates or something. The closest smartphone i've ever had to perfect out of the box was the iphone and we all know that had issues too.
[Epic 4G General] scriz:
The only phone that I had that was perfect out of the box was a Motorola StarTAC, was only used to make calls, and it did that perfectly.
[Epic 4G General] MILcityBoi:
LMAO, Cingular FTW...did you happen to have the silver one? I loved that phone when it came out for Sprint and had the all black screen and lime green display.
[Epic 4G General] MILcityBoi:
Thanks, it's good to see someone that understands there are gonna be problems with any phone almost.

Me myself, I am waiting on a solid gold phone that can make me teleport to anywhere on the globe with the touch of a button and can also video chat with everyone in Heaven so I can ask them how it is....I hope Grandma is okay, LMAO.....
[Epic 4G General] scriz:
Had the all black with the lime green display, on Air Touch Wireless (One of the companies Verizon swallowed up)
[Epic 4G General] flyers2114:
Anyone has the right to turn return it also....but if you are waiting on them to make your decsi0on then that is just pure ignorance.....you either have faith in them to fix it or you don't...if it is the latter...then return it....which I have been telling Jeff for a bit now since he started other rants...

Agreed! Day one out of the box never ever had a gps issue...battery on first day with bt stereo headphones and slacker radio for five hours and some emails and data heavy data usage my batt lasted 9 hours...that wowed me...I average daily anywhere from 14-18 hours....and yes I use my phone...but I don't upload 10 pics at a time from my phone...lmao...that's why i have a pc and a lappy...

But these threads are great....I love all the conspiracy theories....the update will be here...but I am not hanging by the edge of this forum or anywhere else waiting for it...I have much better things to do....

RETURN THINGS WHEN YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THEM...............that's what i do.......oh and btw i would never pay $500 for a phone...that is also pure ignorance...many ways to pay less than a $100(which i did for this phone and was not even up for a upgrade)...they make more money off the service than the actual sale of the phone...be creative...don't ***** in a forum....take it to the top and get it done...i always do!!!
[Epic 4G General] javahead76:
more wining about winers.
[Epic 4G General] jok3sta:
Just so you guys know i just got the message to update, so its out now.. I cant update because im on a custom rom but just a heads up for everyone
[Epic 4G General] quasi13:
lol, same here. That was over 10 years ago... it took that long for Motorola to start making decent products again.
[Epic 4G General] nimaim:
Thanks! Won't be long before we see the update.zip then :)
[Epic 4G General] GlassGorilla:
The green/black definitely created a lot of world class Snake players... don't wanna toot my own horn but towards the end of that phone, I was able to make one game last for short plane rides :cool::p
[Epic 4G General] J3ff:
Haha you guys are really going to hate me when I tell you I'm a SERO user!

I might return this phone - just for all of you saying "STOP CRYING AND RETURN IT" - the truth is there isn't much better to go to on sprint. My dad will be picking up an evo tonight because like I said earlier he doesn't have time for this bull****.

He owns 12 stores in the tristate area and this will be his FIRST SMART PHONE. Believe me when I tell you that if I hand him a phone that has trouble uploading attachments of ANY kind, connecting to wifi/ and having general signal quality issues or locating him on gps he will be screaming at me someday from the Brooklyn bridge telling me what bad advice I gave him on what phone to get.

While I know the Evo isn't going to impress me in the screen department. If it holds a charge for more then a day with regular use and improves all the epic problems, I may just be forced to go with it.

Today at work we had an emergency where there was no power at 8am when I walked in

I took the phone off the charger at 6am, it was blue led fully charged.

I used the phone heavily between 8 and 10am doing all kinds of things, text, web, email, call after call and even took about 10 mins of video needing the flash.

The phone was dead at 11!!!

Even with heavy use That is ludicrous to be OK WITH THAT.

Before you jump on me for proving i'm SERO here you go.
[Epic 4G General] bigray327:
I can't begin to tell you how devastated I am that your dad won't have an Epic. Hang on, I gotta find the suicide hotline number...
[Epic 4G General] scriz:
Damn!! you beat me to it. I was gonna ask if anyone around here had any spare care. lol :)

Also, I dunno how your battery dies at 11..even before I did the DRM trick my battery was lasting atleast until 1-2pm. Now I'm at 7 hours 45 minutes of use and I still have 70% battery left.
[Epic 4G General] javahead76:
Is this a forum or a F**k'em. There's so many *ssh*l*s in here, I thought is was a sh*t factory.
[Epic 4G General] robl45:
mine dies too, so does my wifes and she doesn't even use it during the day, I guess if you turn off wifi, bluetooth, and gps, it would last a lot longer, but then its not really a smart phone is it.