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[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
Haha, cool to see someone else moving from Touch HD to Desire Z. I sold off my other phone somewhat early it seems (too optimistic :rolleyes:) and now I'm using Touch HD while waiting for the Z :D ... I just hope my Z arrives soon :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roachie:
Same situation here, my old phone Touch HD, will sell to friend for 75 Euro's (yes i know i can get allot more for it but im friendly :P ) and moving also ti Desire Z! first time android virgin!
[G2 and Desire Z General] silvacrest:
i also just got my desire Z and its awesome, keyboard is far better then my milestone was, the hinge isn't an issue for me, screen is great, i have wanted walking maps for a while now and google maps just didn't cut, screen looks slightly wider then the milestone which is also 3.7 inches so thats a plus, build quality is excellent
[G2 and Desire Z General] t-mon:
alright, I've cancelled my order with expansys Germany and ordered it at clove.co.uk

So far the service has been great. Quick email responses, informative. Everything I've been missing with expansys' service.

Now lets hope they ship quickly as well :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
I'm thinking it'll be tomorrow sadly! ANnoyingly I won't be there to collect it so will have to pick up the card they leave, office will most likely be closed when I call to rearrange delivery at work, so it won't be till probably Thursday when I finally get mine.

Anyone know what happens with upgrades using MPD? When/how will i know when my new tarrif etc is active on o2? I don't want to start using the phone and find that I'm still on my current tarrif and getting charged a fortune for internet etc???
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Just got a call from my Dad. Phone just arrived! I thought it wasn't, as I assumed it was coming through Parcelforce and our local guy delivered to my work earlier and he said he'd already done my area and there was nothing. Must have come by CityLink. Either way, can't wait to get home.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roachie:
Edit: Please contain yourself from using foul language in the forums. Thank You. ~TheRomMistress

**** PDASHOP.nl .. changed Delivery date AGAIN.

Verwachte leverdatum: 12-11-2010

Went from 12 to 10 to 12.. WHY in godsname! Really strange shop, last time i ordered my phone there there wanst any problems and now this...

And i was so happy in this already dark period of my life atm. jesus.
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
Got mine too, tho struggling with it at the moment, it's my first android phone and I've no idea what I'm doing...lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
Same here (in Belgium).

Again some extra days.

Never, and i really mean never again will i order something from them again. If they can't handle us as customers, they'll not have us as customers!

We pay at front, and what do we get in return?!

I just sent a message towards HTC that i suggest to remove them from their partnership deal. (and also smartphoneshop since it's the same!).

Why didn't i cancelled last week my order there?

I would already have the phone in my hands... :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
From pdashop sales

In human language (not sales):

We didn't order enough of them. We just want your money. And we'll deliver the phone once we've got enough of them.

Don't mind if you find a faster shop then us. You pre-orderd, we deliver the first of all... not ...

I think that the prove is given here that this isn't the case.

Customer satisfaction is on there site 8.6 / 10? They forgot to take my points into there calculation (0.1 / 10)...
[G2 and Desire Z General] vinvv:
No shop in the netherlands/belgium has the phone, so I don't think it's pdashop's fault. And you can always cancel your preorder if you want.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
Expansys.be delivered quit some already atm. I too regret having preordered at pdashop/smartphoneshop.be. Date is still 12/11 here but i have a feeling that it will be delayed once again.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roachie:
well, at the NL it sayes :

HTC Desire Z vanaf vrijdag beschikbaar

Wij ontvangen de eerste levering van de nu al razendpopulaire HTC Desire Z komende donderdag (11 november). Heb jij deze smartphone al gepre-orderd? Dan levert de postbode jouw exemplaar vrijdag (12 november) bij jou af.

So im expecting a phone call today about delivery tomorrow.. ! i ordered with contract so i have to be there when they come. (i work in Utrecht but have to go to Amsterdam after 12 o clock, so i hope they can deliver before that!)

Edit : Bah, im living in the future with my mind atm.. :( so expecting a phone call tomorrow and delivery friday...
[G2 and Desire Z General] vinvv:
That's true, but expansys is officially based in France:

eXpansys Nederland/Belgium

Parc Eureka

256 Rue de Thor

CS 90554

34960 Montpellier Cedex 2

France
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
Well here in BE 11 november is a official holiday. So I doubt if I will have it on friday really. But i hope...
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
It's not only the part that they don't deliver.

Mainly it the lack of information. You pre-order, you PAY, you TRUST.

And what do they do? Nothing...

And cancelling the order? When will you see your money back? What if they say that the shipment is already on his way? What, what what...

Again, you trust 'your' shop. That's why you pre-order.

But nevertheless, they'll have a nice bank account. Several 100's or pre-order/pre-paid? What means that they've got about 150.000 euro's for more then 1 month on their count? Will be a nice intrest...

Ah well, friday is another day to get frustated about this subject... :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
My order just got updated to a confirmed date 20.11 .. :( Even though HTC themselves said that TODAY (10.11) was official release date in my country.. what are they up to? :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z General] t-mon:
that's why I cancelled my order with Expansys.de . They shouldn't get the money before they can show me the delivery receipt!

Fortunately I paid with Paypal and they gave me my money back the very next day.

Oh and I really like clove.co.uk. Ordered yesterday, they shipped today, phone will here friday or saturday. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
expansys took monies of my CC the same day I received email saying: shipped.

glad that most of us have phones in our hands :-)

strange that for benelux countries it took so long to sort things out.
[G2 and Desire Z General] earni:
woohoo, mine arrived today from buymobilephones.net

they included an 8GB memory card too, which was a bonus!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Wait, I thought all the Desire Z came with an 8GB micro SD?
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
They do, my MobilePhonesDirect.co.uk one came today with it too...
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
Like I thought. Delayed once again. 15th of november now. Guess they just found out today is a holiday. Prutsers.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roachie:
damn that sucks.. :( on .NL it still sayes 12th so im waiting for a phone call fromthem.... i neeed that phone call ! :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roachie:
Just got a phone call from a lovely lady that tomorrow morning my phone will be delivered! :) im so happy!
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
Yep, again another delay.

And again nothing from pdashop customer service. You need to find it out yourself! I've sent them a mail, and asked them since the delivery is today, they'll have in their store tomorrow (with their HTC DEMO days)? So i'll pass by tomorrow myself to pick it up.

1+1=2, right? But i think that i can guess their answer. ;)

Will contact Mediamarket tomorrow morning.

And if they've got it in shop, end of story.
[G2 and Desire Z General] baddar:
Hey Guys n gurlz

Does anyone have the Desire z vid Skandinavien keyboard with åäö. It would be awesome if u could put up some pics of it with keyboard open, want to check out the layout. Hopefully gonna get mine around 17-18 nov :=), even thought i booked it at 16/9 hahaha

Regards

Baddar
[G2 and Desire Z General] CeasarRAPH100:
Check out this Danish review 27s in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFWoCS3kGVs
[G2 and Desire Z General] Becksman:
Has anyone any serious sources for infos about the QWERTZ release?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Exanimus:
i haven't recieved mine yet, ordered it from Netonnet but they haven't confirmed the delivery date yet.

According to pictures i have seen, u will probably not like the scandinavian version. The 2 programmable buttons have been hijacked and now has Æ and Ø on them. According to me it sucks bigtime! :(

I have seen a picture of the scandinavian version of Htc Desire Z but i couldn't find it for u at the moment =/
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
I posted a picture of this keyboard in a different thread.. the picture is huge, so here's the link for it http://images.gfx.no/727/727400/nordtast.jpg :)

Edit: I did hope that æ/ä and ø/ö could have been on the same keys, while å had its own though :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roachie:
Recieved my Desire Z a few hours ago, played with it in the train...

The hinge "problem" where it gets open automatically isnt really a problem tbh.

Now i just have to figure out how to use android, been clicking around some but dont really understand what im doing.. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] kenkaw:
Today, there was a full page Desire Z launch advertisement in the Singapore Straits Times. The Desire Z is now available island wide, on contract with the three telcos or without contract at retail stores.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
Got an email from pdashop that they have dispatched at last my order. Should be there monday.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
Confirmed date, 17.nov... so sometime next week I'll finally have the phone :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
grrrr, same here. But still no phone today... They'll deliver before 10AM if i can believe PDAshop (i don't believe anything from them anymore).

In that mail, a tracking nr for the Bpost (courier).

And what do i see there:

Pickup 12/11 22:00

Sorted 13/11 00:07

Afterwards: nothing... :confused:

Is that next workingday in 24h?

I hate that phone before i even seen it... :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] FinHD:
Our local operator just added the Z in their list. I placed the order at the same second. Also changing from my current Elisa operator to Saunalahti. The phone is supposed to be the nordic version, no simlock and a very reasonable deal. Also I got the unlimited speed data package(speed & amount) with the new service. Keeping my fingers crossed that I get the phone a.s.a.p.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Confirmation that the phone is coming soon from Vodafone UK (I got this leaflet in a catalogue the other day) :
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mak17:
I was in a store today. General release date (according to their intranet) is the 17/11. Same due date for my pre-order upgrade with them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Cool. I'm too long (9 months) from the end of my current contract for an upgrade. But my plan is to buy the phone SIM-free, then switch to a SIM-only contract when I can.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
Got mine. At last. Superb phone. Hinges are OK. Looks beautifull. So this is officially the last time i checked this thread :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
:eek:

Now the drivers of B-post (postoffice) are on a strike in Ghent.

So no delivery here for ??-days? :mad:

Why o Why did i pre-order / pre-pay?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Exanimus:
Sounds like i am not the only one that always get a reminder of that "Murphy's Law" actually exists :P
[G2 and Desire Z General] smaragdhk:
Same here in Hong Kong, available in retail stores and from phone operators Smartone-Vodafone, PPCW and Three
[G2 and Desire Z General] invasion13:
Hi,

In France, azerty model has been delayed(again) untill the 22Th Nov.

I hope it will be the last time :-(
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
It looks like I'm finally getting my Desire Z tomorrow :) Yaay.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lovelldr:
Well, I finally decided to purchase the Desire Z after all delays and reviews and the fact root was now available... Anyway, one thing I was wondering...

I read previously that everyone had received a samsung 8gb class2 micro sdhc card... Well, I looked at mine, and I got a sandisk Class 4 micro sdhc card... So, is this because I have a newer revision of the desire z? Or, was I just lucky? Or, did my supplier (handtec uk) swap out the microsd? Or did I receive a returned stock???

All replies appreciated :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] derCaptain:
The user manual and quick start guide are now available in all languages at the german HTC site: w w w.htc.com/de/userguide.aspx?p_id=325
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
I received yesterday mine from Amazon.co.uk. I just checked, and mine is class 2.
[G2 and Desire Z General] vinvv:
Same here. It also has a class 4 micro sdhc. Received it last friday. I heard more people in the Netherlands had a class 4 card (ordered mine at pdashop).

Could be different batches I suppose.
[G2 and Desire Z General] andrewilley:
Great for people who have not already purchased.

If you have got your device already, the full manual can be found on your SD card.

Andre
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mak17:
Thought I'd share my story with your guys. VODAFONE UK are a bunch of total liars. I was promised the phone on the 17th of November. Turns out this was a total sham. They don't expect to stock the DZ for "quite a while" according to the store I walked into, with only the corporate/small business team having handsets for the time being. Their phone team was totally useless and at first were refusing to cancel my pre-order until "I had received the device". Completely ridiculous. None of them had any idea when the phone was coming out, and a few kept confusing the DZ with the DHD. Some cajolling finally got them to cancel the order, but they forgot to change my "commitment date" back to the old one. Cue another batch of phone calls.

Anyway I popped into Phones4U and got an unlocked phone, with the same tariff Vodafone were offering me at the same price. They must have some of the most annoying adverts ever, but I found them pretty good face-2-face in the store. They were a bit pushy with me getting insurance with them (I already get it through my current account), but as they are payed on commission, I can understand that.

So if you want a DZ on a contract upgrade, go to a 3rd party seller!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
Yay I finally have the DZ! :D I think the DZ well worth the wait.. I'm a very happy girl today :rolleyes: :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] RyanMacG:
Supposedly VF are getting them tomorrow although I'm not holding my breath. The wait doesn't really bother me since I've still got my N1 but the lack of info really does...

EDIT: Appears that the Z is now in stock with Vodafone, just waiting to get a call about mine.
[G2 and Desire Z General] invasion13:
Hi,

In France , it should have been released today, but fnac.com is now annoucing 29th nov, Pixamania 30th nov, Rue du commerce doesnt know if they received it in stock,

The phonehouse retail shops dont know the release date and more

i phone today to the french HTC support, they dont even know the availibility

in france ! they will call me back when they know !

(so 15october/2nov/17nov/22nov and now at least 29th nov)

HTC what game are you playing with our azerty keyboards ???????????
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Amazon.co.uk have now dropped the price of the DZ to £403.75. From what I've seen, their price has been fluctuating and they seem to be trying to keep competitive versus their Amazon Marketplace sellers. So the price could go up again if the Marketplace sellers change their price too IMHO.
[G2 and Desire Z General] invasion13:
Better,

today i received a mail from the online retail shop , i pre ordered the 15th of OCTOBER,

summarily traducted from french below :

"After checking with our supplier, it's announcing a momentarily break in Desire Z stock

...and it isnt able to give us any date of disponibility !!!!"

What's the f...?

To be out of stock, the Azerty model should have been already released !

it's not at all the case !

HTC you are getting me drunk ! :mad:

sorry for being rude...

"Après vérification auprès de notre fournisseur, celui-ci nous annonce une rupture momentanée du produit :

référence : HTC-DESIRE-Z

désignation : Smartphone HTC Desire Z - Vision

et ne nous indique pas de disponibilité pour le moment.

Nous regrettons de ne pouvoir honorer votre commande dans les délais

initialement prévus et vous prions de bien vouloir nous en excuser"
[G2 and Desire Z General] htcdesirez:
To Keep It Short & Sweet:

I was wondering if anyone knew a release date for the HTC Desire Z in Australia?

I've "herd" many different predictions & even that the Philippines have received the Desire z today (24/11/2010)

Any information is appreciated,

Cheers
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
And honest to the customer. +1 for Clove.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
I really hope that Expansys is better on date updates in Europe (apart UK and Ireland where it says 29/10).

Anyway....

@Becksman

Good idea. I'll call HTC (Italy) tomorrow and I'll ask them what's up, so that we'll have infos even from HTC Italy. However, I think that all european countries are sharing the same dates. I'm only hoping that the good date isn't the UK/Ireland one.
[G2 and Desire Z General] weszjuh:
Not really correct, it was on 22 Oct at first :)

Ordered mine through studentmobiel.nl, they claim week 43/44.

Can't wait.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
I've called HTC Italy's Customer Care and I've talked with a guy that first said to me that I have to see on e-shops and that Expansys has got the most updated release date.... then I've replied "well, Expansys gives a different date every day...can I have the HTC's official release date on Desire Z?" and I'm writing good news :D

He said that they've already shipped the phone and that webshops (surely Expansys that is their first official partner) have already received the devices in their warehouses. October 22 is the commercial release date.

This means that even if the devices are in shops' hands they can't sell it because D-Z is not officially on the market. Starting from October 22 the D-Z can be shipped (so Expansys will ship it on October 22/23).

P.S.: He even said that the rumors of D-Z not passing Google tests isn't true as it would have resulted in a delay of 3-4 months! :D

w00t!
[G2 and Desire Z General] ale58:
great! Crossing fingers though .... :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Becksman:
HTC didn't happen to say anything about the QWERTZ release date, did they?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
SuperETrader is still giving me October 29...you guys sure about the 22 as confirmed stock date for UK? I'll send them another email for confirmation...dammit, I really want this phone!
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
i ordered already half dozen htc devices through expansys.

they were reliable so far.

lets just not freak out. ;)

i am also waiting and looking forward, since i already sold my desire and using a htc s620 as interim mobile ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] craigw2010:
i hope ur right with the 22nd, cant wait to get my hands on this baby!! Expansys saying 29th today @11.30am, so would not be too confident on the 22nd!!

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roachie:
ya, the waiting is hell :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Here in Slovakia, shops are starting to list the phone (even if in reality it is just 3 different sources, as one is a distributors eshop rented to small shops on many different domains), listing it available in 3,7 or 9 days (the one saying 3 days is not very trustworthy, the other 2 are pretty trustworthy).

Now only if i know who to trust... Keep the Amazon ordere (~510€, 1.11.2010) and i'm on the preorder list since ~26th September or cancel the order at Amazon or order it here in Slovakia, for 481€ (+ 6€ shipping via UPS or 0€ if i go to their shop), 26.10.2010, but it's not a 100% info (waiting for their email response).
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
481€ is very, very cheap...

I paid totally ~560€ with Expansys, I'm not sure that it's a good idea to trust the shops that you're claiming that are selling it for 481€.....
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
It's not like Amazon is much more expensive - £435.48 which translates to 495.53€ + postage fee. 481€ + postage fee then doesn't look that cheap, right ?

It's actually Expansys who usually sells the stuff at expensive price. For example Expansys sells the original Desire for 474.99€+postage fee, while in retail and eshops it's mostly around 420€, even T-Mobile sells it for 429.00 €. Or Samsung Galaxy S - 519.99€+postage fee vs 450-470€ at retail and eshops or 499,00 € at T-Mobile.

So please, don't compare the price with Expansys, compare it with other shops, as Expansys is overpriced.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
Damn, Expansys robbed me :P
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
They always do, it's why I never use them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Cuz U never buy in Polish shops :D Desire Z is priced at 2300PLN which is about 605 Euros :D

Here U go:

http://www.euro.com.pl/telefony-komorkowe/htc-desire-z.bhtml

http://www.palmtopy.pl/Palmtopy/HTC/3187-HTC_Desire_Z.html

http://www.komputronik.pl/index.php...s/1/searchString/ZGVzaXJlJTIweg==/category/1/

Price compare site:

http://www.skapiec.pl/site/cat/20/comp/1496984
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
Hi,

I do hope that the 22nd of Oct is the correct date ... waiting is hell.

Here is a statement I have received on the 14th of Oct from eXpansys when I've asked them what about the date of delivery for my Desire Z:

The official information we received from HTC Europe is this

:

Latest is that new HTC Desire HD has failed Google TA (Google TA = means Technical agreement) and is going to be delayed. We are not expecting shipping to commence until mid to end of October because of this from HTC factory in Taiwan.

Desire Z is scheduled for TA this week as well, we will know more after this date as again this is subject to Google TA so it might be the same.

At this stage we cannot provide final shipping dates for either device as we are waiting for update from HTC meeting with Google officials.

We are sorry for the delay, if we could do anything we would but now we have to wait for Google's decision!

Because of this we still cannot confirm when HTC will start to ship new device from Taiwan.
[G2 and Desire Z General] weszjuh:
Earlier in this thread someone called HTC Italy, and he claims the person he spoke to said that that statement is false.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
Look what I've found while desperately seeking for news:

http://www.cellgsmphones.com/conten...75/htc_desire_z_black_unlocked_gsm_phone.html

It clearly states: ***We have them in stock, ready to be shipped. ***

Legit? Fake? Or just dumbasses?

Don't cancel your preorder :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
We've also received official word that this is rubbish :P So I don't know what to believe.
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
comparing a nicely unbranded expansys device with a t-mobile one is not really worth a comparison

expansys was almost equal to amazon last years.

what you are actually comparing is not compareable since all these countries have different taxes.

you cannot buy in some other country if it exceed the amount allowed by customs. which is the fact for germany and the desire z.