yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krat0s123:
buy a new phone dude.. seriously.. HD2 was not meant to run android.. as you can see, even the company itself is not giving us any support to install android on our HD2.. if this is as far as it would get (which is very unlikely, thanks to all the hardword of our devs), i would still be happy and very thankful.. why?? because i'm able to use it everyday and only have a few kinks.. now if i get tired of all the kinks, i could always go back to winmo, which isn't getting any support from ms.. you see, without these devs, you'd be stuck with a phone with obsolete OS, but still has one of the best hardwares to date!!! if you want stability, get a phone that's meant to run just one OS and stay with it.. oh wait, there's no such thing as stable phone anymore.. heck even the iphones are not stable.. betteryet, buy a nokia 3300 or motorola V3.. those are stable..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] krat0s123:
try a different SD card.. i know you're gonna say that it's working well with one build, so it shouldn't be the card but believe me.. i went over this with one of the members here already and he concluded that it was indeed the microSD card..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] apeatan:
-No offense to anybody but I second this. If it weren't for them I had sold my hd2 a long time ago.:D And, I like dual boot so I won't buy an android fone, yet.

-And the variation is fine with me because I only got the android build that I want when hyperdroid came out, that before, was not made yet. It is not that the other builds are bad, but my hd2 doesn't behave properly with them + like the themes.:D Maybe if I can make my own build I wouldn't need the variation.:D
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mvaughan06:
i call BS on this! my old V3 froze all of the time :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] infinitybiff:
take what you want/need and leave the rest. There's over 9000 windows mobile ROMS too. Choice is good for users. If you don't like having too much choice buy a F**cking iphone.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] justwonder:
The sad truth is there ain't many choices as you think

Vanilla Froyo build is dying...

CM6 base build is dying...

They are dying because Nexus kernel seems stop moving forward, and noone care to convert rmnet to ppp so they can use lastest evo kernel that is ppp only.

Two popular build lately are Sense and Evo Sense (with craps Print stuffs)

IF you look at change logs, they are almost identical because they are based on the same kernel.

If we dont have kernel break thru, we will face the same problem, that kernel haven't fixed yet, no matter how many builds you've tried and hoped.

So do we really have that many choices? or just same sh!t different day? until the next girl comes to town.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ganjaweed:
quality is better than quantity.why dont they jus team up and bring out smetin stable
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] 60redwood:
I think there are fair points on both sides here. WinMo for HD2 is dead, it works but you're stuck with it as it is. Android on HD2 is moving forward and there is some great work. There are two (at least) things going on

1. Kernel and driver development

2. Builds - packaging roms and kernels and drivers with the builders own mix

The Nexus kernel tree has gone quiet and the EVO one is where the work is going on, it seems. I too (though I am not 100% convinced its just this at all) am having trouble with PPP kernels and need RMNET (Im O2 UK), this means I get unreliable data on any of the latest builds with EVO kernels, but they are the ones that have fixed the g-sensor and seem to be sorting out lights and compass.

When you add a mix of SD cards, some of which are good, some of which are bad and the fact that we have 20,000 posts fro people asking the same questions over and over or just saying 'well done let me blow sunshine up your ass" its hard to find facts and make informed decisions.

Trying builds is the only way to find out right now, maybe we need a sticky thread with a build matrix showing what works and doesn't for each?

Based on trying out most of what is available I have to say I am hugely impressed with the work. That said my choices are between

1. Unreliable data on EVO based builds

2. Screen freeze on Nexus based

with the mix of camera, compass, g-sensor, lights all thrown into the mix.

Having to reset data connection or any other 'dumb down' the smartphone tricks are really stop gap workarounds at the very best. Of course its not like there is a perfect working smartphone out there, they all have issues and some of them make our HD2 issues trivial by comparison.

Personally I want android to become complete and reliable on the HD2, but it may be only a temporary requirement, people will upgrade their phone when their contract allows, so over time the HD2 will fall by the wayside despite it being an excellent bit of hardware. The question is will we get to a 100% working build before then?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chris_ah1:
TBH it is a little confusing to know the differences.

I was last on 8weeks ago properly and I could keep track of the different versions and bases.

Now, there seems to be an evo base, desire HD base, desireZ base, nexus base, cyanogen mod and god knows the other stuff I've forgotten about.

Then you have to keep track of which OTA update is included, and what sense version (if any) is being used.

Quite a lot to remember and follow!!! Choice is good, but of course too much and it becomes daunting and in the end I just stuck with mattc and shub's old builds.....because I unfortunately upgraded from an old mattc build to the latest and now data doesn't work :(

p.s. I'm still confused by FRG33 or FRF83 and lots of other stuff like that :S
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] campbell.0:
+1 don't wanna be ungrateful but... ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sylau90:
Think...Think...Think...

You want perfection,not variety?

what if I say no variety,no perfection?

Now,the different builds have their own weakness and something not working, it is not easy to merge and combine like what you all said...

Lets say camera is working on froyo build, but not sense build, you can't just merge the sources...

Furthermore,Variety means creativity, when there is creativity, perfection will come...

just use the build that suit you more,furthermore, there is not many builds in this moment as well. just 2 pages, is that really hard to read through that?I really can't understand...When there are too less build people are complaining, now people are complaining the builds are too many?WT...this is crazy...

Although, most of them are similar, but thats not a problem for you,right? what you need to do,is just choose the one with nice theme, with the functionalities you want....

You must remember your HTC HD2 is not a native android device...Must remember this...now you should feel grateful...Don't complain anymore

Nobody force you to try all the build,Nobody force you to donate and chefs are doing all these for free...What do you want more????
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Tubgirl:
Which one of all the builds is non-undervolted and supports extended batteries?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] reorx24:
Complaining about there being too many android builds is just plain ungrateful and shameful. No one is forcing you to be here or browse the Android development forum. If you think theres too many builds, STFU, go back to WinMO and stop bugging the people who work so hard to push out this build.

On the other hand, I do recognize the need to organize the Android Dev Forum. Its not a matter of too many builds, its a matter of poor organization and non-standardized naming conventions of builds. It would be awesome if there could be sub-forums for Stock builds, CM6 builds, and Desire builds (with further sub forums for Desire HD, Desire Z, Evo, etc.). Maybe a standardized naming convention (like base ROM first before date, oh, and standardization of date format as well)

There is no such thing as too much choice, just too much clutter and not enough organization, and plain laziness to properly research the individual builds to see what fits best for you
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] KrewsialNL:
I dont see the problem having some different builds to choose from. For some one build works, for the other it doesnt.

Next to that...it's an open community with enthusiasts who like to develop and share their stuff. I don't see the issue here :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Tubgirl:
Hehe... so apparently there are not enough builds really. ;)

I have a non-undervoltable CPU in my HD2 and use the official HTC extended battery. Not a single build available that I can run out-of-the-box :rolleyes:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] chris_ah1:
So, just for my own info for leo we have:

Stock froyo (without sense)

Cyanogen mod ones

Nexus rom stock - or is that stock froyo?

Desire HD

Desire Z

Evo...

Are there anymore?

I wish there was a little comparison suggesting why I might want one over another - i guess it's just visual tweaks with a few small feature tweaks??? I wonder what the visual and feature differences are without trying every single one.

So I'm now left wondering do I want an Evo, desire Z or Desire HD one to try on my hd2??? ****, I'm confused. I think I'll stick with whatever I have installed now - I dont even know what froyo I'm running - all I know is it has sense :S
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] shree.cse:
I totally disagreed with your opinion,

That many! is not at all a matter, try using your choice with the log in each build. How can you get a best build unless there are several tries result to several builds.

Sent from my Desire HD
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] reorx24:
An Evo Sense port is the stablest Sense build atm, check out Mdeejay or HyperDroid builds. Excellent EVO Sense ports. Most working components and features.

Desire HD or Desire Z is the new hotness new, what with the new HTC Sense with new skins, access to the HTC Hub for new downloadble widgets, walls, sound sets, and themes, which will only increase in number as the Desire HD and Desire Z actually launch. Only drawback so far is no new Sense build has a working camera. Yet. Im sure this will be rectified in the near future.

Then there are ultra fast and customizable CM6 builds...

There is something for everyone! Now who said too much choice is bad???:confused:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] markmarkr:
All of the actual work on fixing issues is being done by the kernel devs. The different "builds" are pointless, and I can only assume a weird hangover from the winmo origins of this device with everyone wanting to get their little bit of credit instead of collaborating. But hell, people are free to work on what they want.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] norpan111:
Just do it, sell it to someone that appreciate the device and being ABLE TO CHOOSE if he wants to boot freaking android on it. You should not be given that choice at all. You guys make me sick. E everybody is like " nice build but when is next version coming?" You just want more and more and the devs keep giving you more! But then, its to much? You are really eating the hand that feeds you..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] mrkevinhall:
each build is different and yes they all have similar problems however i appreciate everyones effort. they're saving people like you and me from buying a new phone. And they each explore different angles on what there idea of a great phone is. So two fingers in the air for them mate. what are you doing to contribute?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] firebert:
That's nice, you make me sick as well.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] TonyCubed:
To be honest, I wish there was a forum feature that would list builds by recently built rather than loads of builds which have people talking on them. Makes finding builds or following them hard.

Also, I do with the OP, a lot of builds are based on Darkstones 'Froyostone' and they are all clone with different themes and what-not. Too many sense builds as well.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stanleyrw:
Does everyone REALLY need to try and jump on this guy?

Grow up people.

He has a point...

My only difference is perhaps it would be better having a sticky listing the different builds instead of a million pages of thread where you can't find anything. Perhaps a standardized way to compare the builds.

We have build overload, thread overload and nerdy testosterone overlord.

Chillax people. For real...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sylau90:
You should grow up buddy...

What I can say is,if you can't cret your own build,just sit back with pacifier...

XDA forum is a community and platform for developers to learn from each others, everyone has the right to contribute and learn. Give a chance for new cooker to learn how to cook and users will give feedbacks to them.

Tell me what can you do?

COMPLAINT?

They are doing all this for free...

LOL,grow up kids...XDA is not only for user and HTC HD2 is not a native Android phone.If you are unhappy,you can revert back to WINMO. I think the WINMO rom development sub-forum has 10times more ROMs than android section....
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bjkoh:
Dear Sir/Mdm,

I can understand your frustrations when you have to re-do your customization of your free android "upgrade" to your device. It is time consuming and it can be frustrating when you just can't get it to work the way it did on the previous build.

However, I think you can avoid trying out different builds if you know what you want and which build from which developer gives you the best "feel-good" factor. You don't need to try every conceivable build that is being released. Read what they have done via their first post, and counter with what you already have. That is more effective than blind re-installations.

What I normally do is to backup my entire SD card first, prior switching builds. If it works for me, great, else, I'd just reformat(my habit) and re-copy my previous build back in until something else comes about. When I am comfortable with a particular build, I'll wait for updates from the same developer. Again, I'll read what they have done and use some common sense if It's worth re-doing or not. One more plus factor with sticking to a build you are comfortable with is that sometimes, you only need to change a particular file for the upgrade without redoing everything, isn't that more efficient?

I'd suggest you keep to what you have that you are comfortable with. Back up your SD card before you sleep tonight and just wait for an update that fixes the issues you may have THEN update. If it works for you great, else, just revert.

Lastly. Developers or Repackers, give them credit. They have the passion to share their enthusiasm to bring Android systems to our phone. I can understand your frustrations but keep your emotions in check. There is no junk out there. If it works for some, some like it, it's not junk to them. It's not like everyone is developing Android just for one person. You have the freedom to choose which thread you want to read, which developer you want to follow and which build you want to download.

So please don't be disappointed with the number of builds out there. I get confused myself, but I use a function called bookmark on my browser to remain in focus.

Regards,

Bjkoh.

<PS> Have you donated or emailed any developer with a word of encouragement yet?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] sylau90:
Yea,agree with you,

To OP,please stop saying some pointless opinions...everyone is learning here...

I think i got a good suggestion, if you feel like there are excessive number of builds, You can press ALT+F4, this is what suits you more...
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bjkoh:
Haha lets be extra clear:

If you don't like it here:

1. Window Users; Please Hit F4 and continue to live in Medieval Times.

2. Mac Users; Please Hit CMD Q and get yourself an iPuke.

Otherwise, please continue to participate and contribute to a community of eager sharers and normally nice people.

Lol
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] norpan111:
If that was the only thing you could make out of my post you make me more sick then I make you sick.

Hey, help xda organize this forum then? I have written down all build sorted by base, update dates etc, that's how I keep track of things.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Wildcopper:
Maybe there should be one forum for the base builds from people who really do their own kernel and drivers, and another for those who only just add some applications and a skin on it. It's clearly two very different levels of work.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kam333:
Couldn't agree more!

I'm a die hard winmo fan, have been since hp jordana days, I only tried android for the 1st time last week & I glad I did (though I wont be jumping ship anytime soon), also happy for the choices available, last point, anyone that has worked in a group environment will know variation (in different peoples approach to work tasks) can often lead to progress/ more effective ways of doing things.

Here's to VARIETY ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] bjkoh:
Amen to that! I had starting since the Atari Portfolio, Apple Newton Msg Pads, HP iPaq 2215 .. this Android, seriously rocks! Kudos to the developers who help bring this experience to us all.. My next phone will definitely be an Android!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] stanleyrw:
1) No one is ungrateful towards the builders. Obviously so because we are all here.

2) There IS an overabundance of builds. No one is saying it is a bad thing. They are saying they should organize it or come up with a de facto standard. Much like they attempted to do with the sticky in the HD2 Roms forum.

3) People need to lose the attitudes. Those that actually know what they are doing either are friendly or ignore complaint threads, questions in the wrong forum and noobs. The ones that go off on noobs or people expressing their opinion almost always invariably are noobs themselves.

4) When I said grow up I meant it. Anyone taking that to be a personal insult and feeling like they need to respond in a faux smart alec attitude is just being a tool. Grow up. If someone's opinion annoys you feel free to respond in a mature manner or feel free to ignore them. Any other response is unnecessary and immature.

5) Anyone that can't recognize that XDA has an organizational problem (which is what this thread is ultimately about) is foolish. Especially considering that XDA themselves said so on their homepage not long ago.

/Rant
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] gelas:
what the hassle .. given that they are many scenarios that we are facing (different kind of winmo setup for example), having variety of built is always a good thing .. don't forget that everything is still in build stage .. and from what I can see, most of the developer are using trial and error method as their testing .. the developer need someone to test the built, beta test .. we as a user give them input, and they'll fixed it ..

by having different built, we will cover more scenarios in the final build ..

I bet once we reach a point where all major issue has been resolved, we going to have a much more structured built released .. until then, we should be grateful for those who actually work without asking a penny from us ..

thank you all the android dev .. you guys are awesome ..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Harthin:
So, if they decided to limit it, who would decide what was an attempt at development and what wasn't? If people take the time to develop a build, then they are free to post it. That is the heart of XDA.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] enneract:
Honestly... I think the OP is approaching a point, but may not have landed on it (or at least not expressed it well).

As a new HD2 owner, I've been pretty thoroughly looking at these forums the last few days.

I'm not an idiot. I work with embedded systems for a living, and I have fairly extensive experience in device modding, as well as decent knowledge of android. And I'm having trouble making heads or tails of the build forum.

I think the issue isnt that there are too many choices, so much as that the choices available are not clearly defined without extensive examination of each build thread individually.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] tinuz97:
do we really need that many android builds?

Yes we do,because i am a flash addict :D
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheMagicalSock:
You need the 0.76.2000 bootloader. You can find a thread on how to change from your current booloader to 76 in the dev section. Running the .zip found in that thread will likely leave you in bootloops/fastboot, so have your rom on the root of your SD. Reflashing your rom fixes it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thewhiterabbit9:
So I have to change the bootloader, is there a thread for that? And do you mean move that.zip update just to the main folder of my sd card?

Thanks for the help, learning as I go....
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thewhiterabbit9:
So I found a few of the threads guess I just don't understand how to run the zip file from recovery or is there another app I need?
[General Questions and Answers] AlexAndroid:
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a. Process Table

b. Planner

c. Detection and recovery system with a lock

d. Memory Management

e. File System Management

f. Types of Input / Output

If anyone has information about this or I can explain it as best as possible, we would be very grateful .... posting this here because many people layer that handles these issues very well ... from now thanks ...

Greetings
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arr0ww:
JPK has too many bugs and crap battery drain. I downloaded UGJH2 from samsung-firmwares.com.

It only has 1 file "i9000ugjh2-pda-kernel-bootloader-cl490514-low.tar" what do i do in Odin with this?

And will i be able to flash via Kies when the official froyo comes out?

Thank,

arr0ww
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arr0ww:
Bueller.........
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] safwanp:
hi bro can u ls upload to rapdishare or hot file bcs sam-firwares.com not working.

pls asap,
[Streak 5 General] undrwater:
So I rooted my Streak for the sole purpose of getting rid of some annoying default software. I used androot's soft root process.

Today I was attempting to use it to test barnacle, but accidentally chose a permanent root. After the phone rebooted, I got the android.process.acore error and all the fun that goes with it.

I believe the problem is the missing package(s). Actually I'd bet the specific one is "getting started" or HuangYin.apk (or something like that).

Anyone have a copy of the zipped folder they can make available?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gqstatus0685:
I received a free Airave from Sprint but I had some questions. I wanted to know if I have the most recent model. On their website they show it's made by Samsung but the one I received is made by Airvana. On the website it says the Samsung model only handles voice but the one they set me handles voice and data.

Just wanted to know if they sent me an unreleased model.