yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Beast11:
I'm not sure about exact numbers (i'd estimate around 5-8 dBm) but before I would only get 1-2 bars for 3g/ Hspa in my house whereas right now i am getting 3 or full bars. The main problem was that i would randomly lose 3g or hspa connectivity and it would be edge with good signal. Sometimes i would even have no signal at all... So far i havent really seen that.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] JPHCCFC:
did a full wipe sort your wifi issues?

another quick question, when im copying over Eng HBoot, should my phone be in recovery, fastload or fully booted within the rom for copying the HBoot across?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Beast11:
When your pushing the hboot over you can be in either in recovery or fully booted into your rom. I beleive the same goes for flashing the hboot. I did mine in the rom itself...

Also, my wifi is now working after a full wipe/ factory reset and cache wipe.

Note: I am on cyan 6.1.1
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dhkr123:
The damned newb ******* had no backbone and got him in trouble...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sundar2012:
i flashed the egypt radio again (after downgrading and running gfree a while ago). Now with some testing I'm realizing that network geolocation is not working. Is that just a fluke with the node im connected to right now or is something else going on?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sundar2012:
Also am running cm 6.1.1 with a status bar tweak that shows the radio dB. It did not show up with the egypt radio. Data was working though.

I say was bc I flashed back to the previous radio and all is well again.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] JPHCCFC:
cheers Beast, have you noticed any battery improvements?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Beast11:
Not at all... I unplugged my phone at 930am and its at 22% right now. Its almost 6pm now. But this is wat i was getting before. I use my phone quite heavily, i think i may try pershoots kernel or something...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] JPHCCFC:
Cheers Beast that is similar to what I am getting on Cyan 6.1.1 and I use mine heavily too, Im hoping that Gingerbread is going to bring in some battery improvements, otherwise I may have to get an 1800mah. Let me know how you get on with pershoots kernel
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Beast11:
Alright so I'm still getting dropping signal sometimes inside my house but id like to think that its less and that my signal overall is slightly stronger. But I may just feel that way because I know I changed the radio...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gcng:
i do not see my radio version on the op;

12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M

what gives?

T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gcng:
N/m, found the thread, sorry.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
My reception seemed to have improved. Getting more bars in more places lol
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
the placebo effect is so annoying sometimes... lol...

anyone on t-mo in central FL using 26.04 and notice any difference? going to flash it and give it whirl anyways since I'm gfree -f... will report back after some testing.

thanks for the good discussion here guys, some interesting thoughts, knowledge...etc.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sundar2012:
anybody else experience the issues i had with the egypt radio? no geolocation or db readout?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] djdant:
Can these radios be flashed via recovery? Or do I have to adb?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Beast11:
I beleive if they are on your sd card you can flash through fastboot without adb... i could be wrong though...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] heybobitsme:
You are right and wrong. :D You put the radio.img in the same folder as fastboot on your pc then then flash from fastboot. You do need to have it plugged in and make sure it sees your phone. Fastboot runs similar to adb except with your phone in fastboot mode. Just follow the instructions in th OP.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Beast11:
Ahh that makes sense. But I think that guy was trying to avoid using adb/ fastboot completely from your computer. Wasnt it possible to have the phone in fastboot with the radio.img on your sd card and it would flash? I have a feeling im confusing myself... Cause i remember flashing dreamin.nbh or w/e that file was on my dream. but that was a LONG time ago...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] heybobitsme:
I remember flashing radios from recovery with the Dream/G1. I haven't seen any flashable zips for the radio images, though. I haven't tried with it on the sd and going into fastboot. I imagine if fastboot even reads the file then you would be able flash it.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
At least one member claimed that they made up a zip file with the radio.img in it and managed to flash it from SD. But I haven't tried this myself.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9879412&postcount=122
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Gwanatu:
I've been using the radio for a few weeks now and there is definitely a difference. Way better reception in general, and I don't have the weird data dropping issue any more.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ratchetrizzo:
If you upgrade your radio with one of these images, do you lose all the features that gfree enabled?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
No you don't, because you only flash the radio partition itself, and it's the radio config partition that gfree edits.

However you have to have run gfree to unlock etc on an earlier radio. If you are SIM locked and upgrade to the latest radio, then gfree won't work on it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mrbmg:
i have the radio.img in my androidsdk/tools folder

getting error

'sending radio' (24832 kb)... FAILED (status malformed (1bytes))
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
Did you verify the md5?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mrbmg:
yes, fixing to give it a try again. I think something wasn't up to date in my adb for some reason. updated now trying.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Do you have the eng hboot ? Otherwise it won't work if you are trying to use fastboot to flash it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mrbmg:
Yes I have eng.

I got it to work, ty guys.

Stupid me, when I power+vol down, I was in hboot when I first tried to flash it. I never went into fastboot on my phone (highlighted fastboot, and selected it)

So I opened sdk manager up and found out it was not up to date, in the process of all of this. Partially updated, then restarted and it still had not finished updating though it said it was. I am new and trying to learn LoLoL

Currently running Vision_RADIO_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17 from Vision_RADIO_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cbmm:
i have flashed the newest radio, and it def. increased my hsdpa signal in fort lauderdale. my signal strength went from -97 to -89
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sundar2012:
reflashed egypt radio after losing network location again - must be a node issue and not a radio issue. Looks like all is well with the radio now. Will report back on (percieved) battery life changes
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kholk:
A newer radio is available, however I can't upload it at the moment because I'm not at home.

I'll get back home and upload it on 10/01.

Cheers!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sheek360:
Nice! Can't wait to flash it
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tookewl4skewl:
what is the radio identification for the new one you have? Did you get it from a RUU?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jefiggle:
Worked like a charm.

North Carolina tmobile g2

Running on cm7b#33

Vision_RADIO_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] denich:
I have a problem with 140f radio. GPS is searching for satellites about 5 minutes, now. Do anyone seen this problem? How to fix it? New radio have a great wi-fi sinal.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] catachresistant:
The GPS is flaky for me with that radio too.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tookewl4skewl:
The first load of gps will take a long time after every radio update. Just let it acquire the satellite connection (10 minutes max) and from then on you should have no troubles.

Sent from my htc.desireZED
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Christ1119:
Would the "Vision_RADIO_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17" radio update be the latest one to flash on my G2 if I'm looking to get a better over all signal and such? Not too familiar with radios and don't wanna screw anything up
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sheek360:
It might be. I've read great succes stories involving that radio. I also read a few cons to that radio. Its all in this thread. U might wanna hold off though. OP mentioned he was gonna put up a new radio today. I'm eagerly waiting for it.

In my experiance, the new radio definately improve signal streanth when on a call but data speeds only improved slightly.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Christ1119:
I'm OK with my current speeds so I'm only looking to get some better signal strength on my phone. Guess I will just wait for that new radio if it's supposed to be today
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] denich:
The first and the second and so on.. 5-10 minutes. How to fix?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sheek360:
Try getting a fix using the gps toolbox app

If its still taking long then maybe try a full wipe?

Although I doubt a wipe can really help much. Hopefully someone more experianced can chime in.

Still waiting on that new radio!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Christ1119:
Could anyone make the latest radio (when it's out) a recovery flashable .zip file? I'm inexperienced with all the SDK and fast boot stuff (really inexperienced)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] philosophics:
Then you should probably gain some before messing with anything on your phone...

Sent from me HTC Vision using XDA app
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tookewl4skewl:
I remember on my HTC hero i had, i was having trouble with getting a gps signal. There is a file on the phone in the system folder that contains the gps source urls. I can't remember where I found it, but there was a posting on the xda forums that had a list of updated sources and that you were to change in the file. I'll have a look, see if I can find it.

Sent from my htc.desireZED
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
Flashing radios through recovery is dangerous, that's why they are not zipped. Figure out adb, fastboot is no different except you have to boot into fastboot and do it from there. There is a thread with a simple guide here, follow the steps.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tbalden:
Why is it dangerous? Im using engboot fastboot already but i couldnt find yet a reason why is it more dangerous to use the recovery. Can someone explain?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
To those having gps problems; I concur... Seems the latest radio takes longer to get a lock...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
Because fastboot checks the integrity of the radio and if its bad it won't go through with the flash. With recovery you can flash whatever you want and can end up with a brick.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tbalden:
Thanks! will stick to fastboot.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sheek360:
I'm guessing the newest radio will be posted tonite?

Does anyone know its origin or an alternative download link for it? I won't be able to flash tonite n I'm too impatient lol

Just want a steadier signal than what's offered in 2.17
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] apollostees:
Do these radios come with MD5s? If so where are they?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Christ1119:
And that I did, if it's supposed to be safer then I'd much prefer this way, guide wasn't too difficult either.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] apueb008:
has anyone had any noticeable battery life gains with any particular radio?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] gbarayah:
I also have a Desire Z being used on AT&T although I am on the West Coast.

I realize that Radio Versions and their performance can vary greatly depending on location but has anyone flashed a different radio to their device on AT&T and can provide feedback?

I am currently running radio version .02.26_M

Signal is okay but not great...

Any help/feedback is appreciated. If not I guess I will be flashing some different radios over the next few weeks =D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Rich508:
Need Help on flashing NEW radio/ Hboot

Hi everyone Im new in this forum only on writing a post i never had. I am a experienced android user and know how to use adb on my phone with mac connected. my question today is regarding flashing a new radio and a hboot for the tmobile g2 (usa)..

i have perm root/ ENG s-off..H-boot 0.76.2000 (PC1010000)

RADIO- 26.03.02.26_M

eMMC-boot..

Cyanogen 7 #41

I want to flash radio Vision_RADIO_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17 via fastboot and also the newest Hboot Vision_HBOOT_0.85.0005 i just don't want to brick my phone or lose my perm root Please if someone can give me some helpful advice i would appreciate it.thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Do not flash that new hboot, because that's the stock hboot for a Desire Z, not a G2, and DZ/G2 have different bootloaders.

You should be fine to flash that radio, using the instructions from the first post.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
Any word on the new radio? Eagerly waiting to test drive it :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tbalden:
yeah, im all interested too. reverted from latest radio, coz it seemed to drain a lot overnight. I'll test a previous version, i remember it was draining almost nothing in no-net standby, but with the latest strangely drained a lot of percents
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mejorguille:
I don't know if I'm the first one to notice this, but the Desire HD has the exact same radio numberings as the G2. The DHD also has a newer radio available(26.04.03.30, also 26.05.02.15-test ). Could the radios be interchangable, kind of like the MT3G and the G1 could both run the same radio's? I'm willing to bet that this newer radio kholk is promising will have the same numbering as the radio I just mentioned. Someone with more balls than I do should try to flash it lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
That's strange though, HD has different specs...

Someone flash it lol
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] n3ph:
How long is the flashing supposed to take?

My screen got stuck at "sending 'radio'..." for 5 minutes.. and no matter what I pressed my phone won't respond.. Had to take the battery out to reboot the phone
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
It shouldn't take long. Have you got the eng hboot ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
...and you should see a vertical progress bar on the screen, top right corner.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tbalden:
Isnt it the size of the image that matters? Are those the same? Also are the older ones of the same size? That would be suspicious that they can be similar. But whats the worst scenario if the size is okay? Hboot wouldnt be killed so u could flash back, dont u.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] alphahere:
What is the best radio for G2 T-Mobile US? Read conflicting information in this thread. Don't mind some battery lose for a better cell phone signal for voice calls.

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Beast11:
There is no straight answer to this question, it really depends where you are and things like that. Best way to figure out would be to try them out and see. Personally, I haven't noticed much of a difference by switching to the latest radio using the Bell DZ on Fido in Mississauga/ Hamilton area.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mejorguille:
NOOOO you are wrong my friend. A mismatching HBOOT and RADIO result in a brick.... If you don't believe me just ask the people who bricked their phones flashing danger SPL on the G1. I'm suspecting that all of the hardware is the same, including the processor (different naming, same chip), that the radio might be the exact same. Just check this post
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
I think the radio controls all the hardware on the phone and as low as you can get, probably machine or assembly code (I could be wrong though) but in any event if the hardware doesn't match then you end up with a brick. Hboot just partitions the phone and allows a few other options. As the guy said, wrong radio your phone may not even boot...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mejorguille:
No the phone will definately boot... just not past the splash1 image if my theory is wrong lol. Ask dhkr123, he's the one you shoould be asking about how to and not to brick
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
All we need to do is a checksum of one of our Vision radios and compare it to the checksums in that post above for DHD radios. If they're identical checksums, then we know they're the same thing.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] weTec:
Hi @ all,

I'm a little bit afraid to tell, but I think I've bricked my DZ right now... :mad:

To successfull change the splash-image, I've exchanged standard HBOOT v085/5 against the ENG-HBOOT v076/2000. After this, I've upload and SPLASH.IMG through ADB and installed it through FASTBOOT ...

After reboot everythink seems to be fine ... the new boot/splash logo was shown, but the device did not boot up further :eek:

In this boot up state, I can run ABD from PC ... but without SU rights and so I'm not able to place HBOOT image at device. Fastboot and Recovery still working ... but what's to do now? :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
Silly question, do you have a rom installed? Did you wipe?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] n3ph:
Thanks steviewevie and Vlad83 for reply.

Yes I have eng hboot flashed (got it from Wiki).

The vertical progress bar doesn't move. It freezes at around 30%. Is there a different version of eng hboot? (Or is my Asian version not compatible with this)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] weTec:
...crazy - you're right! :D

After I've restore my NANDROID Backup everythink works fine ...

Can you spend a recommondation, which radio-version should be used in germany? Currently I'm at version 26 w/ poor battery performance.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Broman400:
What's the best radio to use in the New York area?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
Thats strange, did you verify the md5 of the download?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
@ weTec and Broman400

All radios are universal so just figure out what works best for you by trial and error...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] n3ph:
I did verify the md5 hash

Now that I had a nap I suspect that the Windows driver which kept disconnecting might be the culprit. I'll try on my Mac to see if the same thing happens too

Edit: That did it! I flashed from OS X successfully. Got a little flustered when I realised fastboot doesn't come with Mac version of SDK. After sorting out all the prerequisites, the flash was completed in 2 minutes.

Let me try out the new "f" radio and see if there's any improvement in my battery life/signal strength
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Broman400:
I just wanted some opinions to save myself some time :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
The problem was that you flashed the G2 eng hboot to a DZ. The DZ eng hboot is version 0.84.2000. Glad you got it fixed though.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kosander:
Tried Vision_RADIO_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17 on my Desire Z with CM7 and my data rates went down here in Finland.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sheek360:
Data rates?

U mean data speed?

May you please elaborate?

The 4.02.17 radio has given me slightly stronger signal (5-10db at times) and data got a bit peppier. I also noticed that the umts to hspa lag is almost non existent.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Broman400:
I really don't get how to install a radio... I bought my Desire Z unlocked, rooted, s-off, etc, and I have no idea where the fastbooth folder is and the Android SDK folder is either...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cbmm:
android sdk here: http://dl.google.com/android/installer_r08-windows.exe

i suggest you start reading up on fastboot and adb.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Broman400:
Wanna give me a link to put me in the right direction?

Btw, I have a program called Droid Explorer, I can see everything on my phone memory. Do I still need Android SDK?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Vlad83:
Learn to search.

Follow this guide http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865685
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheNewGuy:
What happend to the new radio mentioned earlier? Its it still coming? I have alot of problems with my signal strength going down when I hold the phone in my hand...... I can hold it up side down and the signal comes right back.(the antena is located along the bottom of the phone.) But in weak signal places it will go from H to E then drop the signal completly. If I flip the phone upsidedown (turn on 180 degree rotation) it goes back to H! There has to be a middle ground! And I hardly ever see 3g anymore...

Also I read somewhere that g1 users had a similiar problem and reflashing the same radio helped? But I have also read that flashing a radio into its self can cause a brick....

One more question... In this thread I read that all radios are universal, but also I read that a radio can cause a brick.. So which is it? Can someone give me more guide lines so I can experiment with these radios to see if one is better for me?

I am on Cincinatti bell network and I have a G2. And currently using the 4.02.17.M2. If that matters... Thanks for any info.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sheek360:
I too have been waiting for that new radio that the op said he was gonna post on the 10nth.

Hopefully someone else catches it n puts it on these forums
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cbmm:
funny that link worked for me via chrome, firefox, and ie. its a dl for android sdk

someone else test: http://dl.google.com/android/installer_r08-windows.exe
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Broman400:
It works, my bad x]
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cbmm:
that only provides you with the tools, u still need to adjust environment variables, most important what they do and how to use em
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
There's a detailed guide to using adb in this dev forum - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=865685

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] steviewevie:
Radios for the Vision (G2 and Desire Z) appear to be universal ,i.e. those for one will work on the other. The phones are basically identical ,just with different hardware keyboard layouts and different hardware radio bands (but that's unaffected by flashing different radios).

You just need to be careful to follow the instructions carefully in flashing a radio. You should be fine to experiment with different Vision radios.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] kosander:
I was getting 0,8 Mbit downlink with the newer radio and I downgraded to Vision_RADIO_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26. After that I was getting ~3 Mbit at the same location.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sheek360:
Oooh gotcha.

Was call signal best for you on the old radio vs the new one too? Did u measure db?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Beast11:
Any word on the new radio?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tookewl4skewl:
I haven't seen any new RUU releases for the Vision, therefore I'd have to say that I'm doubtful there is even a new radio out there. I don't know, maybe kholk has a secret source...

Sent from my htc.desireZED
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] TheNewGuy:
I think he does..