yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
You should get it early as well, barring logistics problems;)))

That is if the phantom plug story is really real;)

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dazmck10:
Hmmm weird, they charged me?

Excellent! :P
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
cuz they need to give me my money back ;P :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] CeasarRAPH100:
No fun at all my pre-order was pushed forward until 20 November (elgiganten) still waiting respons from them on a similar question, But I second that no one seems to have a clue about the correct delivery date in Sweden.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
SuperETrader ebay store (UK) just confirmed me that they will receive the first batch of devices on the 29th, and promptly dispatch them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
this has made me happy :) although i seriously doubt I'll be in the first batch :( ho hum the wait continues
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
I've just looked and it's now saying 9 days!!! :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
EUROPE MAINLAND:

Een Coolblue-medewerker van de klantenservice zegt dat de levering is vertraagd door import/douane o.i.d. Ze verwachten dat de op het moment vermelde 5 november nog later zal worden, maar omdat ze nog geen definitieve datum hebben blijft dit voorlopig staan.

Translation:

Customs service is being a pain in the ass. Thats why theire is still no definite date..

This problem is not caused by HTC (thats for sure :) )

Only talking about Netherlands / Belgium / France btw here...
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
when did you placed your pre-order?
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Exactly. I don't need another 220V->USB converter, i have one for Milestone, i have few USB->microUSB cables and one Nokia AC-10E microUSB charger (which is pretty much the only way of charging for me). UK plug, EU plug, no plug - i don't care :). I only need the phone :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
This waiting was unbearable, so I googled for some other gadget I didn't know I need, had to browse reviews, place order and now tracking shipment and reading some more on various forums about the cool things I will be able to do with it.

All this makes it a lot easier to keep waiting for Desire Z - distraction instead of frustration ;-)

Sent from Froyo 2.2 on HTC Touch Pro2
[G2 and Desire Z General] t-mon:
The Desire Z is the first HTC device I've preordered and I'm therefore following the release date closely.

I'm just wondering if the situation was the same with previous devices (Desire, Hero etc.), HTC not giving out release dates, delays, uncertainty etc?

Because as much as I like the Desire Z that's got to be one of the worst PR I've seen so far from a handset manufacturer.

(and yeah I'm not even complaining anymore, I've come to accept it. :P Just wondering if it's always been like this with HTC.)
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
only other device i pre ordered was the Sony XPERIA X1 (Made by HTC) 2 years ago & it's release was as much of a joke as this one is :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Handtec have moved their dat to the 1.11.10, gonna cancel my order and get a g2 shipped in...

This is a joke!

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
mobilephonesdirect.co.uk have pushed it to 9 days now
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dazmck10:
Only a few days ago ^^
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Will you be trying to flash it with Desire Z ROM that is available on forums? I'd advise to research first of course, but heard people already did that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
I may do mate, but i might wait for full root and custom recovery before flash a sense rom on it;) Or i may wait for the z, all this ****e has just got me all mixed up;((

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
Yes, Mobile Phones Direct have pushed to to 9 days... it did say 3 days this morning.

What a load of ****.

Every second feels like torture to me! I want it so bad.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
Not long to wait now :-)

It looks like an end of this week / start of next week delivery is looking likely for most in the UK, hopefully with the rest of Europe not far behind.

Differences in dates appear to be more related to how many units a company has bought and where you are on the list (first batch, second batch).

Hope we all get these soon!

__________________

2010 - HTC Desire Z ... still waiting (not long now!)

2008 - HTC TyTN II

2006 - HTC TyTN
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I was so afraid I would crack, cancel preorder and get HD instead, that I distracted myself with other gadget, it worked ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mak17:
Both Amazon.co.uk (1/11) and Carphone Warehouse (29/10) have NOT updated/delayed their dates yet. It sounds ridiculous that they would state a date and then delay it 36 hours prior to shipping. C'mon HTC, pull it together.
[G2 and Desire Z General] colonel:
you need to relax man

try sex, it works every time for me :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
With regards to MobilePhonesDirect, I'm hoping this might actually be the cause of the sudden change to 9 days. As someone pointed out earlier in this thread, the discovery that MPD are getting 50 units and have not, as of yet, filled their orders and the posting of that information here, would have definitely generated a few more sales for the company. It's my hope that the 9 days delivery time-frame is for new customers ordering from them, and that's the date they'll get them, after MPD get another batch.

Or it could just be wishful thinking on my part :P
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
Awesome. It was me who said that and sure enough less than 24 hours after I said that publicly the date has been moved. I never thought of it that way, maybe the "9 days" now is only for customers who sign up today as the boy I spoke to (who told me they still had availability in their as-then ordered & expected stock that was waiting to be shipped to them) that you'll get your phone "within 4 or 5 days... 7 at most".
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
once again. HTC is not to blame (only for the not clear release date then but)

it seems customs / government agencys are the biggest reason. At least here in BE / NL / FR
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
Expansys.be just changed dates again to 29th of october in stead of "9 days". That's in two days, so I guess they got confirmation of delivery.
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
Dikke pietzak dan ze gij :mad: :p

GRRRR waiting sux :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] AgaZaKa:
I can't pre-order because I'm afraid it will be delayed and I'm going away in November. No one will be able to collect it from courier or Royal Mail in the meantime.

So I check this thread every day hoping I can order it and it will arrive before my holidays. Otherwise I will have to torture myself with your comments on the device and wait until December to order it.

BTW I'm still using Hermes/TyTn, so as you can see I'm really patient ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
That is the worst piece of total JANK I have ever had the misfortune to read;( I hope someone didn't actually write this, I hope to god its a standard pre-written letter, if not, this guy is not human!

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
Is that Handtec?

I've gone the crazy route, kept my order with Amazon and placed another order with Handtec... whoever dispatches first wins! Interesting that Expansys have adjusted theirs to 2nd week of November and now back again to 18th Oct.

Edit: Actually I am ordering with Insight for work purposes at the moment, just spoke to our account manager there and he going to try to find out for me. But Insight are stilling listing the 5th Oct.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steveoidm:
I contacted Clove...

"Yes, unfortunately everyone's order has been delayed. HTC themselves have delayed the first stock into the UK until then so we are all waiting"

So I would be surprised if anyone still gets one in the next couple of weeks. Still have pre-orders with two different sites just in case though. I need a new phone! Sure I will miss my touch pro in some respects, but I'm looking forward to giving Android a go.
[G2 and Desire Z General] andrewilley:
I've just spoken to SuperEtrader, who I've got my pre-order with, and they say that they've just been told 11th October as their shipping date for the Desire HD and Desire Z.

Andre
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
There site doesn't even render correctly, I am not sure I'd trust them with my money :p
[G2 and Desire Z General] lovelldr:
Got my pre-order with them also...

Sent an email asking over the weekend. Not had a reply though?! Hopefully will be by then though, as I'm very desperate after being stuck with a nokia for the past month. It's hard being without a decent phone!!! lol.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dazbradbury:
HandTec have just changed their delivery date to:

That is from stating 4th October until an hour or so ago.

I also spoke to someone at Insight (Who claimed they'll have them tomorrow), and they said they have no idea when their shipment will arrive.

Looks like it'll be a few weeks for everyone... Tempted to import a G2 from the states!
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrvanx:
My retailer has changed its release date to 2nd November. No biggie, I can wait ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
They won't work here will they?
[G2 and Desire Z General] steveoidm:
Thats an interesting idea... I'm actually going out to Chicago for work next week. Anyone know if they available off contract out there?
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I believe they would work as they are probably the same (but no htc sense I think), but I'd rather wait, I might have problems registering on htcsense.com or with htc, because they might recognize serial number as being US.

Sent from my Cyanogenmod6-Port by Neopeek using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
[G2 and Desire Z General] lovelldr:
I think what Noxis was suggesting, is that they are based on different frequencies, so they won't work on UK networks?! (not sure if they are or not, but pretty sure that's what he was suggesting...)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
Don't do that, or you'll be limited to EDGE (shame Tmo) :rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
Expansys said, that htc delayed qwerty and qwertz till 10. Nov

So lets wait
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
So why are they listing the 19th of Oct?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Godo_PPL:
Was there not supposedly an event on Thursday by HTC in london?

I wonder if their WP7 phones might just beat android to the punch :)

I know i'll stick by my streak until both desire z and mozart/schubert/mondrian is released and reviewed..

But I must admit my fingers are itching to try the new HTC sense :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Same here, Oct 18 on web and order status (expansys)

On other hand - First stock delayed until 29th October - from clove.co.uk shop
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
good question.

just telling you what they have told me.

still i will wait for german keybord layout
[G2 and Desire Z General] lovelldr:
Well, just had my reply from superetrader...

So, dunno why clove are saying the 29th if superetrader is correct, or why superetrader would say 11th if clove are correct... Maybe clove have put 29th as a "aha, they're actually early, we're being really good to you and getting them before we said we would!"???

Suppose we'll just sit tight, and hope that 11th it is...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
Unless they mean the 11th of November.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lovelldr:
Doubt it... Considering that another user said earlier in the thread they were told 11th October by superetrader... So, either they're being economical with truth, not been told correctly by htc, or have better/worse contacts with htc?!

Who knows. All I know is that hopefully they are correct with the 11th October date, as I really need this phone as getting fed up with this nokia :p lol. Was fine for a month ... 2 I don't think I could hack! hehe
[G2 and Desire Z General] will_riot:
My thoughts exactly!

Judging by the speed in which they replied I'd guess this is pretty much a template where they fill in _____insert product name____ etc...

I couldn't quite believe how long it went on for.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
Eigenlijk nie, want ik heb besteld bij Smartphoneshop.be en daar is het 5 november :)

No, I ordered at Smartphoneshop.be, and over there it's 5 november :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
expansys.pl states 29th Oct again but this morning it was 10 days asI previously mentioned.

Do not believe them any more.

The stuff from Amazon is a template. Some big brain wrote this to calm down little people ...
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
salland.eu => 10 nov
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
The most annoying thing is that i need a proof of purchase receipt for the phone for my insurance.. It means i cant buy from ebay as its not valid;( I would have a g2 imported but i doubt very much i would get a receipt that would be of any value to my insurance company;((((

Sucks big fat hairy ass;(

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
this is a joke now, expansys is back to 9 days ...

strange as on HTC website in press info they clearly said - October 2010
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijoubu:
Most probably they are recalling all the Desire Z's to have their hinges fixed due to G2 hinge fracas. I highly suspect something went wrong in the assembly line but was overlooked, until the G2 came out.

The good news is, hopefully, when the Desire Zs start rolling out, it'll be with good spring loaded hinges :). Im willing to wait for that if it saves me lots of heartache with having to deal with the same problem that G2 users had to face.
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijoubu:
Most probably they are recalling all the Desire Z's to have their hinges fixed due to G2 hinge fracas. I highly suspect something went wrong in the assembly line but was overlooked, until the G2 came out. Now that they know it is a problem, they stopped the Desire Z from being sent out to the dealers so that it can be fixed.

The good news is, hopefully, when the Desire Zs start rolling out, it'll be with good spring loaded hinges :). Im willing to wait for that if it saves me lots of heartache with having to deal with the same problem that G2 users had to face.
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
if that's the case why don't they just say so?

everyone wouldn't be waiting on made up release dates then
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
This is surely not the case, as such a recall would make the delay much much longer than a few weeks. The Desire Z's we shall all be receiving will have been manufactured before the G2 went on sale in the US.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Not necessarily. There have been reports of people receiving G2s with proper hinges for at least a month now.

Sure, the idea that the Desire Z shipment will be better reeks of wishful thinking, but it certainly isn't impossible as better G2 shipments have been reported.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mccabeross:
I wouldn't be surprised the Desire Z is delayed due to the Exchange 2010 issues experienced with the HD.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=797720

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=797733

I for one use email extensively on my phone, hence the need for a qwerty keyboard. I'm assuming HTC realise this also, so want the Desire Z to work with Exchange 2010 out the box.

Yes, I know there is 1 or 2 hacks/workarounds for the above problem but if corporate users want to roll this out to 100s of users, it's a bit of a pain in the @rse to apply the hack to all the devices...

Won't be surprised in the slightest that as soon as the Desire Z is released, there is an OTA update for it that fixes this issue, if it hasn't been fixed when shipped...
[G2 and Desire Z General] jhhest:
In 3 weeks i have my Desire z!

I ordered my Desire Z yesterday at T-mobile Holland. Never heard them talking about a delay. It might take 3 weeks before i have it in my hands. Maybe earlier. I hope they are not lying :D.

Sorry for my bad english.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Just got off the phone with MobilePhonesDirect and I'm not happy.

I was told that they're still awaiting delivery. That they couldn't give me even an estimated date that they would be receiving the handsets, only that they hoped to fill the orders within 2-3 weeks!

I'm not sure I can wait until mid-late November for this phone. The digitizer on my Touch Pro died on Saturday and so without the touch screen, it's very difficult to use even for the most basic of things. I'm literally going insane waiting for this device.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
Shipments should begin during the first days of next week in UK.
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
the guy on the expansys forum (UK) is now saying the 2nd lol

wonder what all these web shops will be saying after the weekend
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
What's the source?
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
I didn't realise that they had 'fixed' this issue. I don't actually mind either way as it seems like a bit of a 'non-issue' to me anyway. Unlike the iphone 4 reception problem (that seemed more serious) this shouldn't effect normal use, unless you use the phone at strange angles!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
If you often use your phone while lying in bed like me, that's a MAJOR issue.
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijoubu:
You dont know how fast assembly and manufacturing moves. A few weeks and they can churn out many many sets. All it takes is for them to build up 2-3 weeks of fresh devices with fixed hinges and sending those to dealers first, hence the delay, while recalling all the ones that have been manufactured for reworking to fix whatever that is wrong. Of course this will mean very limited quantities in the beginning, until of course they have reworked all the older sets and rerelease them back into the market.

Because it'll mean they have to admit it is a problem. At the moment, they are quietly rectifying the problem before it becoming widespread, without admitting it was problem at the first place. Because if they did, those people that weren't bothered by the loose hinge (cause they do not see it as a problem), will all want to get it returned too because they do not want a phone with a 'problem.'
[G2 and Desire Z General] timurak:
10 Desire HD in stock in expansys.pl

Desire Z - stil standing 29 october....

I wondering... its mistake with that 10 pcs DHD??
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
not sure devicewire were showing as in stock yesterday
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Expansys UK have told me they expect delivery monday (1st November) and to begin shipping Tuesday 2nd however this is based on old information from HTC and has not been confirmed recently.

Clove.co.uk said the same, but they also said they don't trust the fact that HTC has not confirmed delivery.
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
this whole thing just gets funnier & funnier now expansys are saying that. as they had it listed for delivery before that date earlier...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
This came from one of their corporate sales team as well, so I would trust it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
hopefully it's correct :)

but if that's the date they've had from HTC all this time surely it shows all the web shops have just been making dates up to get pre orders?
[G2 and Desire Z General] t-mon:
I've just been to Saturn (one of the biggest consumer electronics stores in Germany) here and they had the Desire HD for sale, the guy told me they had just arrived yesterday. He couldn't tell me anything about the Desire Z though, as usual...:rolleyes:

oh and amazon.co.uk has just pushed the expected delivery date for the Desire Z back from November 1st to November 8th :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] craiglay:
When I log in to view my pre-order though, it still estimates delivery 3rd November.. We'll see how it goes..

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z General] t-mon:
oh ok, may be for the second batch *knocks on wood*
[G2 and Desire Z General] craiglay:
I hope so!

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
I know have already said that it is not HTC's fault that there is this beyond the reason delay - with dates all over the place.

Nevertheless, I hope HTC do realise that tomorrow OCTOBER 29th is the last business day of the month, and that this device will be available to us.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xspyda:
Amazon's product info page states " This item will be released on 8 November 2010"

So I doubt that existing orders will be delivered any sooner despite the estimated delivery date - or that this is only for the 2nd batch.

My delivery estimate also says 3 Nov 2010 - 5 Nov 2010 but I think that's just because the system does not update that part.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
WTF, expansys.be just changed dates back to 29th of oktober, that is ehm...today.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sluden:
Read this

http://www.mytrendyphone.co.uk/shop/htc-desire-z-37738p.html

AVAILABILITY: In Stock - Ready to ship
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
this is a good news but I've got a hunch that expansys and other resellers are playing with their customers, someone here already said: to collect as many pre-orders as possible.

cheers

expansys is back again to 8 days ... what a *****
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
anyone heard of that website before? & are they actually in stock (not just some automated website that has clicked over)

Also i do like how they're at least £40 more expensive than other shops.
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
well just spoke to someone on their web chat & they said it's NOT in stock & they expect stock in 5-7 days.

So looks like their web site was set to today a while ago & it's clicked over saying in stock by itself :(

Looks like it's next week then (hopefully)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
I have just heard from a contact at another large phone website (in the UK) and they said HTC have confirmed that they will be getting stock monday, so its looking like at least the first batch in the big "htc partnered" shops will be dispatched next week.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Maybe!!!!!!!!!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
How long?

I was so hoping to hear my DZ has been dispatched this morning. Not yet though and sounds like it may be Monday... please not longer than that!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] dib_uk:
I preordered from Amazon yesterday, product page showed 1/11 as release date. Checked the order status page today, it still shows as arriving here on 2/11 but the product page now shows as release date 8/11

More delays??
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
Just popped into my Local Carphone Warehouse (UK) & talking to the guy I know in there, He told me there expecting delivery on the 1/2 November.

Not a sold release date but its a bit more hopeful (:
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Yeah like I said HTC have no confirmed they are delivering the goods Monday and Tuesday to selected retailers.

They have really screwed up this release.
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
You can say that again, they really did drop the bomb on this one! Ohh well, Soon i shall have it in my hands XD Well as soon as T-Mob get it in that is ¬_¬
[G2 and Desire Z General] TKCable:
They have really screwed up this release.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Just wondering, anyone here afraid of pre-ordering the Desire Z and would rather wait a few days for early adopters' opinions (regarding the hinge and reboots)?
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
HAHA XD

I'm worrying a little bit but i figure that it will come with a 1yr Manufactures warranty so any problems ill send it straight back to them :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
Hope I won't get one with loose hinges after all this waiting..
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
Not to mention UK/EU (i forget which) distance selling regs :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Yeah VillainRom's order is going in today so I will let you know next week what I think about it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
I seem to recall that HTC actually offer a 2 year warranty on phones sold sim-free. Also you get the added advantage (I think) of being able to send any faulty phone to an HTC service center.