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[G2 and Desire Z General] Rchard:
This is indeed a joyful day for some people. There are still who are struggling along with the journey :) including me. I dont know why takes so long for expansys to get the stock. They are usually the first for listing the devices for pre-ordering. Hopefully this or next week my order will be dispatched as i am struggling with a symbian sluggish device by Nokia.
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
ooooo I am getting nervous again grrr

Replay:

pre-orders in July and August? omfg?

I have started to laugh at myself ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Glad to see a lot of you getting shipping confirmations now; great stuff.

Little worried that I'll be waiting a bit longer with MobilePhonesDirect, but I got a really good deal on an O2 contract that they're not even advertising any more, so I won't mind waiting a little longer. Just knowing they're definitely in the country and being sent out to people is enough for now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
Exactly the same here, a good deal on an o2 contract a day or two before O2 disappeared from the options on the Desire Z!

When did you order yours? Mine was ordered on 13th October, not heard anything since and can't get through on the phone at the moment!
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
Im happy for those in the UK.

but still no word from the mainland in Europe. Even some shops saying theire a shortage in component for the phones...

So much stress :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
I could go now and buy one from a local dealer in Poland but want to save over 70 pounds on it and will wait for expansys ... I am just tired ;-)

I am counting on photos from all of you guys ;-) at least I cant watch but can't touch ;-) just like after marriage ceremony ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] will_riot:
Amazon have changed their release date to the 5th - They say I should have it by the 9th. I think I can wait this little bit longer. Especially as I wont be at home for it's delivery in the next few days.

I'm looking forward to the influx of 'I'VE GOT IT' messages on here. This thread has been epic.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
If you preordered around the start of October or before, you should be good for about Friday as me (if MPD keep their email promise to me) as by your flag we might be neighbours.

They said they were dispatching to me tomorrow (I am hpoing to receive the DZ on Friday-ish).

The bad thing about MPD is that they don't voluntarily give out the info., even after such a long frustrating period of uncertainty. One has to press them for info., but even then someone from there comes out with a contrary statement, like I already had through another enquirer.

Will be careful next time (thinking of HTC Pro 7) where to buy it. I hope MPD will throw in some goodies to appease me for their poor communication with customers.
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
just found some vids on youtube to do with the hinge, don't look good for all you bat like texters....

Not sure if there's sound or not as i don't have speakers/headphones at work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP2OUCqBzcY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C50aTSHh1HM
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
I knew you would get it in the end!! :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
There is no sound, the only sound is the crushing of the two pieces of the phone. It could be that the demo video is using the unfixed faulty DZ.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
I'm so happy for the UK users who are about to recieve their handsets! :D Hopefully the rest of us will find that our countries are following soon.. :o
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
for all the dutchies/belgians:

Geachte heer/mevrouw,

Helaas hebben wij nog geen exacte datum ontvangen, we hopen inderdaad eind deze week enkele modellen te ontvangen maar er gaan enkel speculaties rond, er is door HTC ook nog niets bevestigd helaas.

Hopende u hierbij voldoende te hebben geïnformeerd en mocht u nog vragen

hebben vernemen wij deze graag van u.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Means : they say they hope they recieve it somewhere this week but its only speculation as theire hasnt been said anything from the HTC side.

This problem is surely HTC and not anyone from the suppliers / retailers
[G2 and Desire Z General] elmadhoun:
Happy for most of you at least, i'm still waiting for handtec to send the "torture ending" email...I mean why not dispatch today! Anyone received a dispatch email from handtec?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
I ordered mine on the 28th September. Only thing I've had from them were vague e-mails weeks ago. If you could keep trying to phone them and post back here what you find out, that'd be great. I always finish work after they close and am not able to call them during work hours so I'd love to hear what they have to say now that others companies are going to be shipping from tomorrow.
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
I think people from expansys are angry as I am bombarding them with emails today - so I will be put at the end of this horrific queue :-)

btw - this thread is really an epic one!
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
Me too, I'm away to work, ordered only last week yet was told I'd still be in the first batch but the phonecall was twenty minutes on hold last week and I have to leave for work in ten!
[G2 and Desire Z General] craigw2010:
I too ordered with MPD and have heard diddly squat!! I'm hoping it will be tomorrow shipping for Friday delivery!!

Ordered on 17th October, what about u?

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z General] john boot:
Today reminds me of when I had put in my order for the nexus one & there was a big thread where people were posting about the status of their shipment etc lol

Actually feels like Christmas eve!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Mine will either ship today or tomorrow morning from Clove depending on when payment gets sorted.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I have verified all credit card details with sales team few days ago and they responded my order is ready to go. But still nothing...
[G2 and Desire Z General] lovelldr:
If I were you, I'd ensure payments gets processed asap :p hehe
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
looking forward to your work & reviews.

Just keep us up to date on the hinges etc guys.

Also look for the screen (seems the trophy 7) had a bubbly display :x

Just 10 more days waiting for me :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] burtcom:
Woot! Expansys USA finally changed the Desire Z from "preorder" to "usually ships in 7 days" !!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] dicko99:
Woo hoo! Mine is on its way from Clove. :)

R
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
When did you preorder? I did on 24th of October and still waiting.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mashed_ash:
CPW online are showing the phone as instock...

Now I need to decide what pre-orders to cancel!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] dicko99:
30th September.

A previous email I got from Clove said they had enough stock to cover all pre-orders so I'm sure you'll be getting it soon. ;)

R.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Maybe depends on shipping type, mine is Fedex International?
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Have you noticed fellow "HTC Ziers" that we shall soon hit 1,000 posts and 100 pages? Amazing - as one of our own has already said, it is 'epic' indeed.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
yeah they use city-link for UK deliveries.

But they told me the same, they have enough to cover all pre-orders.

As for processing payment quickly, mine is a group order so I am not the one doing the payments ahh!
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I'm afraid no shipping for me today :-(
[G2 and Desire Z General] earni:
anyone else ordered from buymobilephones.net?

lack of communication makes me think my phone is miles off. i pre-ordered on Sept 28th
[G2 and Desire Z General] jmpcrx:
hi, anyone know when vodafone and t-mobile may be getting the z in stock? (uk) thanks..
[G2 and Desire Z General] wrapper:
Cancelled my play.com order and ordered with clove...it better come on friday!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Apparently T-Mobile UK have said they won't be getting the Z or the G2, no idea how true that is though.
[G2 and Desire Z General] zammo25:
Carphone Warehouse have it on Vodafone for next day delivery, just got off the phone with them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
Sad, that the german version is still not there. Ordered 19. Sept.

But my galaxy tab keeps me happy.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mccabeross:
Spoke to T-Mobile last night. They will be getting the Z - they were not forthcoming on a date...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Just got off the phone with MobilePhonesDirect.

Contrary to what other people have been told, they now say they're expecting delivery Monday, with hopes to ship Tuesday/Wednesday.

This weekend is going to be hell with all you guys enjoying your new phones and us MPD'ers having to wait :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mak17:
Vodafone are taking pre-orders for new phones and upgrades. Current target delivery date is the 17th of November, but they hope it "will be sooner".
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
Wait they did?! They told me that they weren't doing it! Humm, Looks like T-Mob can't make there mind up....
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
If this is true, and I don't get the phone on Friday morning, it will be my turn to punish MPD, and will instead order with a competitor of theirs, especially because they sent me an email (documentary statement) to say they were shipping tomorrow 4th November.
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
So much for them being an HTC ultimate partner!!!

Seems like they're rather a rubbish choice!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] camro:
i'm very thankful to HTC for the long delay ..

and so i thought about this device again and checked a lot of tests ..

and so i decide me for another device ...

1.) talked with a lot of users - and all of them told me -> every part which is not fixed - is a problem after some time ..and how often do you need a keyboard if you work with swype few minutes ?

2.) display on sunlight ... there are several tests, and all of them reported - very bad under sun light ..

i want to view a good quality of pitcures, too and also on sunlight it should be useable

so i will wait for a super-amoled with slider incl. digits and cursor - or i will change to samsung galaxy i9000 ...

bye-bye htc ...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Just got home to find this in my e-mail inbox...

So that appears to be the case, such a shame.
[G2 and Desire Z General] earni:
super AMOLED is the one with the poor visability in sunlight isnt it?

Desire Z doesn't have that. and as for the keyboard, its vital for me. often getting nasty texts off people because i never reply. just cant be bothered even faffing with the touch screen keyboard.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
I can't reconcile what you got and the email I got after 9 this morning:

'Hi "my Name"

We are dispatching your handset on the 4th November.

Regards

Lauren Russell

Online Customer Services Representative'

So, I am still hoping.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrvanx:
Just looked at mobilefun.co.uk.....................Due tomorrow.....exactly as the email I got last week stated. Nice :D (The page did say due 9th yesterday)

Still waiting patiently................even if it is next week. ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
As a temporary pain relief for you guys:

NAM is RELEASED

The NAM bands version D-Z was relesed today by Bell Canada, one user has already picked up his phone (check the NAM waiting thread)

My provider still says shipping tomorrow

So now it's just a matter of hours or a couple of days to populate this forum with more than speculations and waiting threads

.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
I'm hoping too, though I'm obviously a lot more pessimistic about it than you will be, having told you will receive the phone this week. Keep us updated on whether your order status changes on the MPD website. Presumably it's still "Pending Stock"?
[G2 and Desire Z General] AMoosa:
I had an email from superetrader today to say mine has shipped!!! woot!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] cartman09:
I have to disappoint you, he is right regarding the display. The S-AMOLED is superior to AMOLED and S-LCD, where both of them have problems in sunlight.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Status is still 'Pending Stock'. I expect them to change that status tomorrow when they have shipped the device.

Will let you know as soon as I have news.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Aren't Amoleds oversaturated in colors?

Anyway, I'm perfectly fine with TP2 LCD so I will be even better with S-LCD :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
I just want to know one thing: if HTC is, supposedly, going to start shipping G2s with 'fixed' hinges, why are hinges on the Desire Z faulty?
[G2 and Desire Z General] jsplowes:
Another review:

I can't include the link but it is http... blog.aivanet.com/2010/11/htc-desire-z-review/

I've also been eagerly waiting for this phone. But it seems to me that the reviews that are coming out don't make the phone sound as good as I'd hoped...
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
AMOLED vs S-LCD

I'm also very happy with the idea of S-LCD. Before the DZ arrived I was wondering whether to take the plunge and move from keyboard based phones to touchscreen only (last few phones were HTC Wizard, Tytn & Tytn II).

At that time my biggest concern was the poor performance of the AMOLED screens in the light. I was actually relieved when I heard that HTC were switching to S-LCD. I agree that Super AMOLED is probably best of the bunch but with that comes the massive compromise (in my opinion) of having a Samsung phone.

Not long now anyway before a number of us find out how good the HTC Desire Z really is....
[G2 and Desire Z General] earni:
its ok as we only get 2 or 3 days of sunshine per year in Lancashire. the screen is really not something thats concerning me lol

ive just watched some videos on youtube of the hinge falling open itself when held upside down and thats where my main concerns lie
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I never used my phone upside down, so hopefully it will be non existing issue for me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] craiglay:
I tried last night with my Touch Pro 2 and its actually very difficult.

Still waiting for Amazon to ship!

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z General] wootty2000:
I spoke to T Mobile UK a few days ago and they also said that they would NOT be getting the Desire Z

My contract is up with Orange in a few months and I will buy my way out early if T Mobile can get the Z
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
So I'm not the only one hearing this then. That's a shame, Looks like my only option is Sim Free...Maybe "upgrade" to the DesireHD, sell that & buy the DesireZ....
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
expansys changed status on DZ and DHD for : On request, so I do think they got it and start shipping tomorrow or Friday. Not long now ... ;-)

expansys answear to my query regarding SuperETrader and HandTec:

for me that is shocking customer service ... true but shocking!
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
So, how many people got phones shipped out today and will receive them tomorrow?
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
And I don't even have an email from MPD at all!
[G2 and Desire Z General] steveoidm:
I did, shipped from Clove. Ordered my last three phones from them, they really are very good. Unfortunately I am working out in Chicago at the moment so I won't get my hands on it until the end of next week!
[G2 and Desire Z General] zappoo:
Expansys UK said 100+ stock last night. today they say "2 days"

frustrating as hell!
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Software is not ready/accepted, and you expect them to ship the phones ? How do you imagine it, how would it work ? Do you expect them to take out each piece of Desire Z/HD from the package, flash the new firmware and then put it back in the package ?

I don't think so, the devices will be shipped when they are ready - including the software. And we can count few weeks after that moment, and then it will be in UK...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
Interesting theory, you should tell the shops as they don't know for sure the reason for the delay. Sites are saying things from "not passing google tests" to "need more stock for the high demand".

If it is so critical the hardware needs to be modified or all phones reflashed we are not going to see them in 2010. We are talking thousands upon thousands of handsets here anything that critical would doom it and HTC.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
This has to be something at software level, as to get a aproval from Google you need to satisfy some software and hardware requirements, otherwise you are not allowed to put Google Apps on your Android device (Gmail, Market).

This is the test where somehow HTC failed, probably due the new HTC Sense. It could be that HTC will not need to reflash devices because of some software change, but unless we are any of HTC or Google we will not know.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
I'm not sure if this is a software issue or the Desire Z hasn't passed the Google tests...

On expansys.it there's written that it'll be shipped on October 18, same for Desire HD and same for my order tracking page.

I won't believe that it's a software issue if I don't read an HTC's official communication.
[G2 and Desire Z General] sdlopez83:
I have AT&T and dont think we are getting Desires z or HD can anyone confirm this?

I gotta get rid of this TP2 already. The new Windows 7 mobile is horribly un-customizable.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
It can say anything, if everyones release got pushed back then expansys got pushed back too. If they like to move the release week by week, it's their choice.

Ask AT&T, only they know. TMo has G2, Verizon has his HTC Merge, rest of the world has HTC Desire Z.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Another Touch Pro2 owner? :D I'm running Android Froyo 2.2 (latest Neopeek port) all the time on my TP2 while waiting for preordered Z :D Getting used to Android, having all aps on SD ready for new phone to arrive.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
A NAM version exists (850/1900MHz), it's been confirmed that at least Bell Canada will carry the Desire Z, and pdadb.net lists a "US version" too...

It's just that we'll have to wait a little more for it to show up
[G2 and Desire Z General] ale58:
oddly expansys shows different release dates for Desire Z in its sites:

expansys com 30-10-2010

expansys de 11-11-2010 qwertz

expansys es 18-10-2010 qwerty

expansys fr 30-10-2010 azerty

expansys ie 30-10-2010

expansys it 18-10-2010 qwerty
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Oct 18 for Poland but it's because their local systems is not updated I think.
[G2 and Desire Z General] amireshan:
I can wait, let htc deal with the problem they found and fix the issue as soon as possible. I don't want to receive a desire Z, with a problem later and keep sending the phone back to htc, I'm holding it till every thing has been solve and I will know that I'm buying something it will not break down in long term :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
i wrote expansys and they told me, that all devices are delayed till November.

But this chaos shows, that they don't have a specific date.

lets see when tey are really ready or shipment
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Funny cuz just got email from expansys and they told me Desire Z is delayed until end of Oct. :) The only certainty is chaos & increasing entropy :D

BTW. I still have outdated info in my order detali: pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2mdkjgk&s=7
[G2 and Desire Z General] JogNet:
expansys it now has this date:

"In stock presso il nostro fornitore - 6 Giorni"

Stocked at our supplier - 6 days

past week they replied by mail saying it is coming at the end of October ...

MAH!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Humz:
Just seen this on the telegraph website
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
As I said earlier in this thread :p Stating google testing delays was always bollox due to the G2 already being out and clearly the handsets are already boxed up and sitting around some place.
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Great but still no specific date :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
as I said.

noone knows exactly.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
they were just waiting for the win 7 announcement

now, with nothing new to chew up, they'll fire up their guns in 1 or 2 weeks
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
The Desire Z is NOT delayed.

Expansys have updated their websites and now ALL the Europe Expansys websites are saying that the Desire Z will be out on October 18, apart from UK website that says October 30 and FR website that is saying October 18 for QWERTY version and October 30 for AZERTY version.

Moreover, if you see on UK Expansys website, you'll see that here the QWERTY version is delayed because of Vodafone that is giving out an offer: monthly pay for Vodafone free calls and texts.. and HTC Desire Z.

The Desire Z is delayed only in UK and only because Vodafone has got an exclusive on the product.
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n447/p83979.aspx
[G2 and Desire Z General] elmadhoun:
The hinge issue is not as bad as it is made out to be.

The problem only exists when the phone is held upside down or while laying down in bed. Typically when holding the phone in that position you'll probably be browsing the web or ready, so the keyboard won't be out to begin with. even with some mild typing you can use the onscreen keyboard...I really don't think it should be an issue of that extend.

What do you guys think? I mean if you're reading this you're most likely waiting for your D-Z like I am ;) Honestly my only concern is upgrading to the next version of android, traditionally HTC is excellent in software support/upgrades so hopefully they won't let us all down.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I won't be using it upside down, not an issue to me.

I will generally enjoy the phone while being up to date with news and phones that will be out next year, dual core, with 3D camera or pico projector built in, console-like gaming performance. So in 1-2 years I'll be getting a new phone. Until then, Desire Z will hopefully be great phone, like TP2 was.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dicko99:
Not to sound too smug but mine is on its way from Clove too...

03/11/10	17:24	These goods have been scanned at the collection Depot and are now on route to the delivery Depot.

03/11/10	15:36	These goods have been successfully collected and are on route to the collection Depot.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Just googled Desire Z. Report on a credible site says Bell in Canada have started selling the DZ to customers on a three year contract.

While they must be congratulated, it looks so unfair to tie down people to a three year phone contract as though it was a business or personal loan.

The mobile phone technology moves very fast so that it is unfair to a customer to have to get stuck with a primitive phone when they could get today's tech.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Hopefully Bell can revise their rules, unless that is standard in Canada.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Its good night, and let us hope for the best for the UK tomorrow morning.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Just come across this unboxing video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ0iH_hHchg

Sorry if it's been posted before. Although the music playing throughout is annoying and there's nobody actually talking you through what's going on, it does give you a nice look into some of the software-based features of the phone. This will be my first Android device, so sorry if some of the things shown are standard for a lot of you, but there's a lot in this video that gets me really excited. Been stuck on WinMo for a very long time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
This is a very appetising and thorough-going video demo.

I can't wait to play with tom the talking cat.
[G2 and Desire Z General] zesty2k:
These arrived in carphone stores today. Nice looking, weighs a ton and same useless hinge design the Nokia n97 had...I expect to see many of these for repair!