yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dazmck10:
SuperETrader are saying on twitter that they expect their first Desire Z shipment on 2nd Nov.
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
I think i love you <3
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Sorry, thats the end of november, not october;(

you may relent your love now;) lollol

Please dont get a Motorolla, they are total rubbish, the keyboard will piss you off within hours!

HTC and the Z rule! Just wait a few more days;) Im coming from a nexus, and im using a pissy 15 pound nokia untill this drops, i feel your pain;(

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
the 8GB SD card is it standard in all devices ?

cause my supplier said its not deliverd with it...

Could it be its allready inside the device (you know like allready in the original package or placed in the device) ?

i cba to pay for only the phone while HTC says something else tougj :x
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Happy to stay with HD2-Android DHD ROM until DZ arrived :) On other hand exchange sync messing up with my contact so on WM most the time :/

BTW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmMLLSy-t4w&feature=related
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
so jealous :(

3 secs boot ! WHOOP WHOOP :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
The UK date must be very soon. Look at what's popping up around the country:

http://twitpic.com/30s0up

Also, check the logos, Phones4U, Carphone Warehouse & Vodafone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Interesting to see the Vodafone logo on there. When I rang up Vodafone (UK) and asked about the DZ, they said they weren't getting it ! It's still not showing on their website, although the DHD is on there.
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
Humm Well There's still some love there, but not as much :p haha Ill wait like a good boy! Tbh I'm not as bad off as you (Nokia of all phones?!) I still have my G1 XD

Guilty Confession: Can't really slag Nokia off that much, I was very tempted to get an N8. :o
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I could not care less if Z comes with SD card or not, have like 4 lying around including 8GB.

I just want the phone...

Sent from Android Froyo on Touch Pro2
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
T-Mobile uk looks to have good contract deal, anyone know if it's going to be T-Mobile branded?
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
It will be tmobile branded in software only;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
Only comes branded in the US (Look for the T-Mobile G2) In the UK we just get the Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Quick question for you, since you seem to be pretty clued up on everything.

I ordered my Desire Z from MobilePhonesDirect, on a contract with O2. Since O2 aren't selling the phone, as far as I'm aware, do you think it's likely that I'll get an unbranded sim-free version of the phone, with an O2 contract that MPD have just packaged together with it?
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Thats exactly what you will get mate, MPD and all the mobile phone sellers will always have unbranded phones, they get the phones, then they sell you the contract seperate, kinda what Carphone Warehouse do;)

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Excellent stuff. Cheers for clearing that up for me. Even more excited about getting it now. Whenever that may be -_-
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
htc really has to get rid of that default rainbow-colored wallpaper, it's pretty hideous.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xspyda:
I have asked both Amazon UK and HTC Direct today abotu their quoted release dates of 1/11 and 29/10 respectively and both have stated that these are the dates they are working to and expect to recieve stock. They also said they will be shipping on the same day received, time permitting.

I still haven't placed an order yet as I am not sure who to go with. Probably Amazon but I like to order when things are in stock and not based on a possible release date.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
Stock date for UK has apparently been confirmed at 2/11.

If anybody gets his Z shipped from a UK retailer before that date, please post it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xspyda:
Confirmed by who, HTC themselves?
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
haha. you will not get it within this year :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] xspyda:
lol, I'll quote you on that someday ... although I am also considering the Desire HD now and putting up with the size!
[G2 and Desire Z General] sdlopez83:
ive heard its class 2 anyway
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
Carphone Warehouse say they'll have it in your hand on Friday http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mo...SIRE-Z/MONTHLY?src=phoneFinder&tariffNetworks
[G2 and Desire Z General] who knows:
In the box

8GB Micro SD Memory Card

Manufacturer Guide

In-depth information about setting up and using your product.

Charger

UK mains adaptor.
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
Hi

As long as the phone itself is not branded its ok, right.

But here you mean the T-Mobile one will be branded with T-Mobile software but not the O2 one?

I hope I can change the software to original HTC sense?
[G2 and Desire Z General] zammo25:
Was just looking on Vodafone website to see if the Z was on there yet. Wasn't but one of those chat things popped up so I thought I'd ask some fool if they knew anything about the Z..............

Andrew: How can I make bit better for you today ?

You: I was wondering if you could help me, I'm after the HTC Desire Z but I can not find it on your website?

Andrew: would have love to get that for you

Andrew: however we only have HD with us currently

You: I have recently seen adverts on bus stops etc stating that Vodafone would be stocking it....

Andrew: the best selling with us

Andrew: however as of now

You: Do you know if/when you will be getting it??

Andrew: it should be around 4th November

Andrew: however we have got great deal with HD for you currently

You: excellent, will it be on similar plans to the HD do you know?

Andrew: to be honest not confirmed yet
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Found this: "since the T-Mobile G2 can only use the 2100 3G signal here in the UK, I have problems getting decent 3G signals."

here: http://www.cellphone-reviews.co.uk/2010/10/htc-desire-z-t-mobile-g2-review.html

So G2 is somewhat different from Z?
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
Looks like there won't be any Z's on the market the next 10 days. Ah well, since my Touch Pro broke last week, had to go retro and dig up my Hermes again. It's bulky, ugly, but i actually forgot how good it was, so i'm reliving the old days. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Hey, I also have Hermes lying around somewhere :D Was pretty happy with it, but my hardware keyboard sometimes stopped responding and only soft-reset would fix it.

Clove still says first shipment delayed until 29th, the waiting continues..
[G2 and Desire Z General] KK43:
clove now say early november... bunch of BS
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
expansys just delay DHD release date again... I'm really piss of cuz this look like kind of joke. We know much more about ETA when big resellers...
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
scroll back a few pages.

i told you: 11.11.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Scroll some more, I hoped to get it before Christmas. But it was a joke at that time.

So it was just few more days to wait not so long time ago, now it's more like 3 weeks, again?

Sent from Android Froyo on Touch Pro2
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
Desire Z shipment on Fri/Mon

Hi folks,

I've enjoyed following this thread - helped to ease the pain while waiting for my DZ. I've been using a Tytn & TytnII for the last 4/5 years so really can't wait to get my hands on this!

I ordered my DZ on the 11th September from Superetrader (Modaco Special) and received notification yesterday that it should be shipped on Friday or Monday. So hopefully either Saturday or Tuesday morning it will be in my hands!

All the best folks... hope these are all released soon.

Jon
[G2 and Desire Z General] craigw2010:
hey all,

i ordered this phone from www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk on T Mobile on 17th October. Have only recieved a confirmation of purchase email from them, nothing else. I have sent them a few emails now, asking them to advise me of a projected shipping date, all to no avail.

I logged in to the website today and found it says "PLEASE ALLOW 4 days FOR

FREE CITYLINK DELIVERY". This backs up what @jonhitch says about it being with him either Saturday or Tuesday. I am hopeful but quietly confident that i am going to finally get this phone before 11/11.

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
Same boat! On the phone to them
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
22 minutes on hold & counting!
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
Also uk.insight.com say they're being delivered to them on 03/11/10 which again fits this general last few days of October, early November theme
[G2 and Desire Z General] salemfox:
Within seven days from Mobile Phones Direct also there's no queue or backlog (as in they're getting say 50 in and less than 50 have ordered it so they can fulfil commitments)
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
This will surely change after people see this :-D

Sent from Android Froyo on Touch Pro2
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
I think he was talking about the US G2 (from T-Mobile US). In the UK it'll just be a Desire Z, so it won't have any T-mobile software and will have Sense.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kappo78:
But from what it sounds like from JupiterDroid, it will have T-mo software. If that is the case, will this mean that T-mo will remove and replace some features?
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
Expansys.be just announced that they will have stock on the 6th of november, and that's a saturday. So delivery won't be before 9 november.
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
all the big benelux and french sites just confirmed AGAIN as 5th of november as stock recievage date...

dont except it to get it released anywhere SOONER (thats for the UK smartasses here :p )

oh btw that are retailers who are official partners with HTC :)

so also 11.11 is bull****

second batch 15-11 (also confirmed)
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Same thing in Poland. I'm tired of waiting so just canceled my preorder in expansys.

Desire HD is available from a few days in Play Mobile with or without contract:

http://sklep.playmobile.pl/ecommerc...d=AB-HT-DESHD-PL1-BL&quantity=1&clearSearch=N

Maybe I buy it instead of Desire Z.

Regards
[G2 and Desire Z General] simbloke:
Why do these shops put dates on their websites when they clearly have absolutely no idea of when they will be in stock?

This reflects very badly on HTC :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
i wonder how anybody can cancel pre order now?

we almost made it. cancelling now will bring you to the end of any other queue.

i ordered on 17.sept and i will just wait till it arrives.

using my htc s620 till new gadget arrives. training myself on a hardware keyboard...
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
Good news ... screen protectors arrived from HK but still no phone in my pocket ... oh well, at least I'll be well prepared when my DZ arrive :)

BTW. got 4 spare screen protectors, anyone interested - more info via priv msg.
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
I woudn't hope too much that you get your HD earlier, as i see most stock dates are being pushed back to beginning of november. I'm defenately keeping my pre order.
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
I have one in my hands today so it seems very real :) Without contract even cheaper when expansys so I give up with waiting.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
This Is based on past htc releases with tmobile. The desire had a tmobile branded rom.

Either way, the software will not be too much different if anything. With the desire, they was identical;)

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
I spoke to Mobile Phones Direct they said it will be sold SIM Free so I guess this is just the original HTC Desire Z so no branding - all it is it's just got a T-Mobile Contract SIM added on top, that is all.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
I've ordered through MobilePhonesDirect too and unfortunately, it has said the "Please Allow 4 days..." since last Friday. Three weeks ago they sent out an e-mail saying it'd be two weeks, then a week later saying end of October, promising to send out another update the following week, but they never did. IMO, they're just as clueless as everyone else.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Could their silence mean that they will be delivering to us end of this week/early next week?

Like you, I also got an email update from them last Thursday, promising an update if necessary this week, but it has been zeeee!

Let us keep hoping our misery will end this week.
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
salland.eu => 11.11

seems our crazy german gets what he wants ... PDAshop 11-11

this is WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAH :'(
[G2 and Desire Z General] StuRoid:
All you guys/girls ordering from Mobile Phones Direct.....have a very close look at their small print regarding data. I am currently on T-Mobile and they have an automatic 3Gb monthly limit for Android phones BUT and that is a BIG BUT when I asked Mobile Phones Direct about their 'unlimited data' on the T-Mobile contract they said that your contract is actually with them and not T-Mobile so your 'unlimitied data' is actually only 1Gb.

Just be wary of these things and be sure to ask.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Exanimus:
I wrote HTC earlier today and asked about release date for the Desire Z, and they answered that they had no info on that question.... (as usual) and they told me to talk to the store where i ordered the phone. when i did they said that they didn't think it will be delivered until the end of november..

and when i checked swedish online stores some of them have written that they think it will be available at 30th of october, and some wrote 3rd of november..

it seems that not a single person in the world knows or can answer with certainty when the phone will be released...
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
UGH. End of november. You just ruined my day :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
It depends on your phone usage, but i personally have hard time reaching even 500MB with my Milestone. Of course i use WiFi if i can, i don't do skype talks or radio streaming through the phone - but if you don't do it either, then it's going to be hard to reach even that 1GB.

Don't forget, he talks about Sweden :).
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
expansys is changing their delivery dates again to 10 days as from today ...

I am curious what date they will announce after those 10 days ...

actually I'm not angry or upset any more. what can we do else apart of being patient?

Now thinking about the BB 9700 as hardware keyboard and email access is essential for me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
I'm a bit angry at Amazon UK - because they add a salt to injury :D. Waiting for Desire Z since 24th September and today they sent me one of their offer emails - where they offer me a Desire Z, because i was looking at SIM Free smartphone category.

/facepalm.
[G2 and Desire Z General] will_riot:
I got the same email this morning!

In a half mind whether to write them a snappy email back. For all the good it will do me...
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Fishing for even more pre-orders...

Sent from Android Froyo on Touch Pro2
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
I too have ordered from MPD (got it on o2 just before they stopped listing it as available on o2, so hopefully it won't be a problem...) I also got that email and was expecting hear from them last week. As I hadn't heard anything I called them on Monday and ws told that they hope to dispatch them on Monday 1st November, so fingers crossed that'll actually happen but who knows.

Seem strange that HTC aren't giving a release date or anything, seems like a shambles of a product laugh if you ask me!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] craigw2010:
Well, ive just checked MPD website today and it now says "3 Days"...could this mean were getting some progress??

I also emailed HTC and to their credit they got back to me straight away but the problem was the answer they gave me...

Original Message I Sent To HTC

"I have pre-ordered the Desire Z from a reseller in the UK but as yet, have received no correspondence as to when the device is being shipped. Would you have any idea, seeing as you are the manufacturer, as to when UK resellers can ship the device to their customers?

Craig Williams

Disgruntled Customer"

HTC's Reply Within 30 Minutes

"Dear Craig Williams,

Unfortunately we can't help you ,this doesn't depend from HTC.It is the distributor company that deicide when to ship the phones.

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 10GBCW44ENA001246.

Sincerely,

Giuseppe

HTC"

If HTC cant tell me, MPD are ignoring my emails and nowhere on the net has got a clue when it it officially released, we just have to wait!!

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
this is crazy, surely someone at HTC actually has a solid release date.... Bunch of clowns tbh
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Wow, seems like the more popular htc gets, the more incompetent it becomes...
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Could be their policy to not give any date when they are not sure if they can keep the promise.

It's like one developer once said: "it will be available to download when it's ready"

Sent from Froyo 2.2 on HTC Touch Pro2
[G2 and Desire Z General] simbloke:
Well, somebody is giving out dates. Unless all these shops are just plucking them out of thin air. Hmmm, everytime the eXpansys ETA gets close they just add a few more days, so maybe they have no clue at all. I just wish they would be straight about it!
[G2 and Desire Z General] mccabeross:
Is this a dead cert about t-mobile? i know you you did clarify end of November but direct from t-mobile?

I can't find information anywhere. I am due for an upgrade and would like this to be true...

Cheers.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
The hesitation is in the actual release date of the phone... It will be released sim free first, then the networks will follow suit;)

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
this wouldn't be a problem at all it's just all the

"yeah it's out next week" one weeks goes by "oh wait no now it's in 4 days" etc etc etc.

These shops are either all just guessing & following each others lead or someone somewhere i releasing dates to them.

However it seems HTC have no clue. Either they've shipped them to the distributors & it's in their hands or it's been delayed & they don't want to own up.
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
CarphoneWarehouse points to 29th Oct, e2save points to end of October, Mobile Phones Direct says in '3 days time', so the Desire Z looks set to be this Friday I do hope.
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
just looked on the expansys forum & the guy says the date on their system is still the same (29th) although the actual website says 7 days.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Clove the only one listing it as of early November?

Sent from Froyo 2.2 on HTC Touch Pro2
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mak17:
Hey Guys, seeing that you're all very clued in. I've struggled to get a straight answer out of Vodafone UK as to when they will make this handset available for existing customers with upgrades.

Reading the last few pages, I've seen that it looks like it will be released SIM-free first, then be picked up by the networks. Does anyone know how long that gap will be, assuming the DZ ships end of this week, early next? I've noticed posters all over the place for it on the tube in London, which have gone up over last weekend. They quite clearly have the vodafone logo all over it.

Thanks for the help.

MK
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Not sure mate,

But it looks like all the operators are not selling with contracts at the moment. But the online retailers will still sell you a subsidised contract even though it will not be directly shipped from the operator themselves. It will be shipped as a sim free phone but with a contract... Carphonewarehouse, Mobilephonesdirect and mobiles.co.uk all do this;)))

This will also mean that you get an unlocked unbranded phone;)

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mak17:
Yeah I realise that mate, but currently I'm only in Vodafone's early upgrade window of 70 days, and no really wanting to subsidise two contracts if I can avoid it. I can't imagine it will take that long for the DZ to be made available.

Vodafone UK shipped pre-orders of the Dhd on the 22nd October. How much later was this than the sim-free 3rd party retailers selling it? I find it rather weird that they haven't even started taking pre-orders, or putting it in their coming soon section. Their staff, both in store and on the phone, are completely clueless (they know what the device is, they just have no idea on release times).

Cheers.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Vodaphone customer service are total brainless idiots, they are morons of the worst kind... They just speak what is on the internet, never any new or inside information, they are goons.... If they had been more forthcoming, they would have had me as a customer now, but like me and thousands of other people, we all went t-mobile when they released the original desire first;)))))))

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Mak17:
Hahaha, nice strong opinions I see. Well I'm making the jump from my trusty Blackberry Bold. Can't deal with non-hardware keyboards, and was bitterly disappointed by the completely underpowered Blackberry Torch. It's a shame RiM (a fine Canadian company ;) ) haven't realised that even "business users" would quite like a working browser. Also the Vodafone Enterprise server deal is a complete ripoff.
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
an update from Polish seller working for PlayMobile Network in Poznań. They had 5 phones in stock and were gone after half an hour on Monday.

They are selling D HD as from 25th, there is a massive queue to buy this phone with a contract - no phones are being sold without contract.

Why all the online resellers are constantly changing dates for D HD and D Z if Polish GSM Operator is selling them as from end of October?
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
if you want an HD now i've read that Devicewire have them in stock ready to ship.
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
no thanks, I have had the HD2 and I need a hardware keyboard - I am frustrated writing an email using on-screen keyboard, BB 9700 was my first idea - then I saw D Z - can't live without touch screen :-)

I have asked the same seller about the D Z and he said that they do not know the specific date but certainly going hit the market shortly.
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
for the german Desire Z its a solid 11-11

i also stopped being angry or something, since this is how it happens when something gets such a high demand.

i see ourselves standing in front of a htc store at 2am waiting for a new gadget within the next two years.

we are freaks. almost fanboys already :)

it will be strange feeling once we have the gadgets and this thread becomes useless.

i am enjoying it a bit to see we are all unpatient.

how is it in your world? i am the only one addicted to phones. and everyone is making jokes about my frequent changes.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
The main delay for mainland europe was the plug, this is the reason you will get the Z later...

I'm 80 percent sure the UK will see the Z before mainland europe;)

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Here goes the plug again, LOL, I only want the phone ;-) thanks for the free plug.

Re Devicewire, they really do have big red "in stock" message on Desire HD page, nice...

Sent from Froyo 2.2 on HTC Touch Pro2
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Also, I'm praying for the "early November" not to be changed to "mid November" soon :-(

Sent from Froyo 2.2 on HTC Touch Pro2
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
What electrical system do you run on in Ireland?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dazmck10:
UK plug.

Guys does expansys charge your credit card for pre-orders, before they have shipped?
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
No, money are still on my CC