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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
acording to business news, Samsung is definitely basing their ideas more on the "Here & Now" filosophy than having a well stablished road map for software releases.

All they are focusing are hardware to counter the Apple markets

Software upgrades for them is on the backburner

However Samsung did advertise they will support the famous apps to support the new Galaxy Tab and 2.2, but they mention nothing about 3.0

again they are playing it safe, and only upgrade th eOS if necessary to match Apple

I believe Samsung goal is to widen the 2.2 Apps diversity, then play with 3.0 when 2.2 is maxed out.

not sure if that is a wise choice.

HTC is always known to have its end customers as guinea pigs, always pushing out the latest and greatest, then polish it later (customers=beta users)

Samsung seems to be more convervative and wants to play it safe

Motorola... they are always weird, they seem to go with the flow, half hearted, the same happened with their great bluetooth products, only to be discontinued shortly after, even though they were great success. They are only in for the heat of the moment, but never long enough to stay.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jam3sjam3s:
Actually they have confirmed Galaxy Tab will get Gingerbread. They are planning to release next generation tablets with Honeycomb.

''....we'll be working to upgrade from Froyo to Gingerbread.''

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/samsung-exec-says-next-tablet-will-use-android-honeycomb-gala/

http://www.geeksmack.net/mobile/sam...oid-gingerbread-next-tablet-getting-honeycomb
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OrionTC:
that doesnt make sense, what happened to 3.0 gingerbread being a complete build to which they make smaller installs via the market to lower android fragmentation...

i dont know if to believe the samsung rep but stating the tab wont get 3.5? before the device is even released is a little stupid imo.

why can companies not see apples approach to software updates is almost flawless....keep your customers, dont **** on them.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AllGamer:
regarding the flagmentation, ironically it's something Google suggested.

Google made some base line requirement for 3.0 and more hard core requirements for 3.5 (faster, bigger, better of what runs 3.0)

currently Galaxy S family meets the basic requirements for 3.0

so chances are we might not see any upgrade for SGS beyond 3.0

same goes for older devices that are stuck running 1.6 and 2.2

because they don't have enough CPU, RAM, DiskSpace to store & power all the newer OS

it doesn't mean support and apps stopped being made for those other versions, it just means developers will need to make the same software to work for the different versions

but yes eventually this is too much work, and some good Apps might eventually cease to exist for older Androids like 1.6 and 2.2 as Dev will get tired of release the same App for 3 ~ 4 different version of the OS
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OrionTC:
if thats the case i would be very interested to see what google bring with 3.5+ to warrant such powerful devices.

i still think an apple approach whereby they release the base OS and maybe leave out a few of the features that are power hungry on the older devices is by far the best way to do it.

a rough time frame for 3.0 was christmas, so we could assume 3.5 would be 6 months after? so summer next year at a guess? i do wonder how far CPU's in phones will go in that time baring in mind the battery limitation all phones have.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
I read something similar but different and I think it makes more sense in the context of the way you put that. What they did was they looked to make sure all the top 200 apps would scale properly since 2.2 wont support their screen resolution, so the populra apps better. This should be addressed within 3.0 so Samsung, Google and app developers won't have to all get together and collaborate in order to get 1024x600 apps to display properly on 3.0 so they didn't need to bring it up....at least I hope.

I think their plan is to have 2 primary versions of the OS. We'll see if they can actually do that. Maybe easier said than done, but if there are enough devices and popularity for their apps on both OSes developers will not mind developing for 2 versions of the OS if Android can get beyond the size Symbian currently is (with growth prospects and current progress this is all too easy).
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alovell83:
I would've thought that, but man, everyone is complaining about iOS 4 on the 3G and quite a few on the 3GS. Are they complaining about lack of features? Well, in some cases, sure, such as the how could we not get that? But what they are really complaining about is speed. With the way things are said to progress with software and hardware tech I think 2 OSes might be better even if it leaves some customers unhappy, you aren't going to be able to make those ones happy with a laggy device either.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jam3sjam3s:
Half of the post is entirely true but the other is totally wrong.

iOS4 on iPhone 3G is really bad idea. On 3G it's much more worse than iOS 3.

But on 3GS iOS 4 delivers almost the same feel like on iPhone 4.

It's normal since they have the same CPU/GPU and very little differences in CPU clock. 'Coz A4 in iPhone 4 is underclocked to ~720Mhz and it gives no more than 15% improvement over 3GS.

I own 3GS and I decided to go for Galaxy S instead of iPhone 4, because the hardware improvements (CPU/GPU) were really insignificant.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
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Honeycumb 3.5 is history...

What about PeachPie 4.0 !!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D

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[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anonymusneo:
Will Galaxy S/i9000 get gingerbread?

hi guys..

i know HTC desire wont be getting a official gingerbread update and the chane for it is very less.

Now, Will the i9000 get Gingerbread? since its just got released ?

looking forward to it.

gona buy i9000 in 5 days :P
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
How do you know HTC desire wont be getting it? Have HTC said so?

Fact is, nobody knows anything about gingerbread still.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anonymusneo:
No . HTC hasnt said so but the chance is very less.

but it will get custom roms though

there is already a thread about htc desire

but my question is will i9000 get gingerbread?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devabhishek:
when the samsung galaxy s got released it had software version 2.1 eclair... the company promised to release a 2.2 froyo version which is yet to be released in this process the company has to bear a lot of expenses in the development process, so i have a feeling that the company might not waste their money on the devices which are already sold... however if the company make efforts for making gingerbread 3.0 compatible for i9000 galaxy s they might hold the customers and also improve the brand name and would be very helpful for them in the long term......

if samsung is competing with apple then they might have to do things even better than apple..... apple has taken efforts to release apple operating system 4 on the earlier devices that is apple 3g ... so if samsung want to be the no#1 brand in terms of everything they should and will release ginger bread 3.0 for all the earlier compatible devices.... and if they only want to make money for a short term then they wont release it for the earlier devices...

ONLY TIME WILL TELL :):)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
Well.. You are assuming the desire wont. Best we can do is assume the Galaxy might.

The reality is, gingerbread is probably still nowhere near final, so no company has probably started investigating support for their devices yet.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anonymusneo:
so i shoudnt buy galaxy s? D:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damdeviousduck:
I really dont know where your getting your information but HTC have said they will update some devices to Gingerbread 3.0 but we wouldnt see it coming till 2011.... So I don't know where you heard they wont be!!! With gingerbread being quite different OS it could take some time to make it compatible with the devices, and as its not even finished yet I would not take any RUMOURS seriously till its been released by Google... As to your response so I shouldn't by a galaxy s then!!! I Really think thats a silly comment! If you want a Samsung s Buy one if you want a device running 3.0 wait till its released and buy a device then! Bit silly to buy a phone just on whether its going to receive an update!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeren:
htc desire wont be getting gingerbread. thats for sure. No device benefits of 2 updates officially!!!!!! it already received froyo. thats the end of the story! Now the desire HD (coming out in a few weeks), thats another story. this device will surely get gingerbread.

Now abt samsung i9000 , i dont think it would get an update to froyo.why? same reason as before. 2 updates is unlikely. what u must expect is another samsung device with the android version in the near future!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
No, whats for sure is that you are making assumptions. Nobody has said anything, about the desire or Galaxy S.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devabhishek:
never buy any device thinking in mind that weather it will get a better operating system in the future or not.... if you like the current working of the device go for it..

i got my galaxy s cozz it has the biggest and the best display resolution.. + android +slim + within budget as compared to iphone 4 its 50% cheaper with better functionality
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devabhishek:
its not even been 3 months and people are waiting for an 2.2 froyo update which is yet to be polished ...

windows 7 phones are planed to be launched in the year end in european countries

google might be watching out for the launch of those devices to research about the changes in windows mobile 7 .. so they might make further improvements in ginger bread 3.0... so i am not expecting google to launch their operating system anytime sooner than march 2011
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dibakle:
I read that in IFA, Samsung said the galaxy tab will get gingerbread. I think it wouldn't be that difficult for developers to port to the phone since the tab is an oversized galaxy s.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] terraego:
you cant really tell if the sgs will ever run gingerbread, but theres always anticipation. the google tweets show a recommended specification for the gingerbread operating system.

"Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5" and higher." (cant posts links because of new user account)

well the galaxy s has all that, so imho, the chance of gingerbread coming to the sgs is very likely
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeren:
well galaxy tab galaxy tab.... did u know that the galaxy tab might not be having android market within? :))))) google recently said that it was against tablets using froyo. (that is why the google tablet is coming with the google chrome os btw) and google also said that the problem lied within the android market and that any tablet running froyo would not have the android market application
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
Except, has Google really ever tweeted that? (you can post links without the https btw). I've only seen "leaks" showing those specs.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damdeviousduck:
Well said... Too many people think they know what they cant possibly know!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] misterzak:
Still waiting for my SGS to be delivered. Getting it alongside my X10. If the bootloader ever gets cracked on the X10 it will have fun peeing itself on the lesser phones, but with Donut, it is a pitiful piece of hardware. Any X10 owner disagree?

The SGS is a serious piece of kit. Froyo would top it off. If Froyo were on the X10, the ball may be in a different court though.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Valeo:
Huh. Some of us haven't even had one update, let alone two...

With regards to Froyo, I think you are mistaken. Samsung are field-testing 2.2-based firmware now and it doesn't make sense to blow all of that R&D cash on an update that won't go public.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeren:
OOOPS. I am sorry. I meant to say i didnt think i9000 would be getting gingerbread update. with 2 updates i was meaning the first being from eclair to froyo and the second being the gingerbread.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenF1:
They've sold 2M+ (probably more like 3M+) this should get an update to 3.0 or there will be so many complaints.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ickyboo:
The retail life of a phone nowadays is about a year. So i highly doubt sgs will get official gingerbread. By time gingerbread is released we will be using quad core phones. Hell dual cores are coming out this xmas already.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damdeviousduck:
SO WHAT!!! doesnt mean everyone will pop off and buy one straight away!! With a new android release every few months or so they should at least keep the handset up to date for at least a year and we're not even close yet... you also gotta remember some of these models have JUST been released!!

as I said EVERYONE here is speculating and NO-ONE really knows whats going to happen!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
The man can still have an opinion. He never said it will.. He said he didn't think it will..

But you are right, there are some people presenting fiction as fact here. But, I don't think ickyboo was doing so... But yes, the reality is, it's best guess. Nobody knows.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeren:
Well i can understand what u mean. In fact i do agree with you but this is not what happens usually. I do agree that mobile manufacturers should provide support for at least a year and a half, or at least in the warranty period. but you have to admit ''how ****ty they are at updates'' ...especially samsung. An example is the Galaxy spica which was released on november/december 2009. so this phone is less than a year old and samsung is not going to update it to 2.2.

Well yes nobody really knows what will happen. The only we know is that gingerbread is coming before the end of the year!!! So in my opinion, if samsung wanted to give u ppl gingerbread, they would have skipped the froyo update and waited for december. ( speculation of course!!! but it makes sense. It seems stupid to invest a lot in froyo updates which would last only 2 months until gingerbread!)

Of course that is only speculations.and that is why this thread is in the Q&A section and not the in i9000 general thread!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
Why would it make sense to skip Froyo? Updates are incremental (as well as kernel updates). Using the latest android version helps sell products and makes money.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeren:
Please dont get me wrong.I am not intending to flame anything. In fact i am not an owner of i9000 but my gf does(and i do all the rooting, lagfix.....), so that is why i keep peeping around.

Why skip froyo? Well to implement the touchwiz and tuning 2.2 for a device takes time, and money. and if u do that, u do not expect this upgrade to last only 2-3 months.

Samsung didnt need froyo to sell millions of their galaxy products! But yes it do help.

By the end of the year or beginning Q1 2011,why would samsung want ppl to buy the i9000? do u think that i9000 would remain the topline product? (i said do u think). especially with lg already announcing the dualcores and samsung recently announcing its new dual-core processor codename Orion.

Anyway, i do hope i am wrong and that the i9000 do get the upgrade to gingerbread
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bilboa1:
while its not very likely to get android 3, as long as open source mods like cyanogen work, you should be able to get it via one of those mods
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
Actually, many of us bought it because on launch, they said it would get 2.2 in a few months.. Also, you must remember that Samsung is taking a different approach to most companies, releasing only a single product which has minor modifications amongst many carriers. They also probably release 1 stream of firmware which is modified by the carriers directly (we don't know who adds the shonky carrier specific apps at the end).

But, if the carriers request gingerbread, Samsung might do so.

Remember, Samsung are stepping it up against the iPhone, and the carriers are taking on Apple directly. Many may wish to continue to sell it as their midrange solution. Also, it is probably less than likely that a lot of the hardware will change (atmel touch for instance probably wont change).

Anyway, we really don't know, but the Samsung Galaxy S is the first real competitor against the iPhone. In this case, I think there is a possibility.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenF1:
Yet contracts are (the majority) 24 months long. Support should be given for 2 years.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ickyboo:
Yes. Hardware support. Not software

Phones are like pc's . Most big name builders will give you a year or two hardware support and 90 days if even that of software support and tell ya to call up ms or whatever developers of your problem software. Looking at samsungs track record i wouldn't get too worked up. Looking from a hardware vendors point of view there's no money in supporting old systems unless you charge for upgrades like apple did for older iphones. Samsung is out to sell hardware.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ickyboo:
Yes. Hardware. Not software
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LevitateJay:
I don't think they have sold a phone on this scale before. They have a good oppertunity to increase their brand name by updating this device and keeping 3m or so people happy :p
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darkstriker:
It is funny how everybody always calls android 3.0 gingerbread. Android 3.0=!gingerbread. gingerbread is more likely going to be android 2.3.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bilboa1:
Where do you get it from?

All the articles on the interwebs refer gingerbread as 3.0 (and there might be a 2.3 in between that "wont be called gingerbread")

None of them are a direct Google source but then again i didn't find any match saying gingerbread isn't 3.0.

thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anonymusneo:
yes i have heard . the guy who announced on tweeter he said the version wrong ,

you are correct 2.3 is called gingerbread not version 3.0 :)

the same guy who announced gingerbread . retweeted this :)

ginger bread is 2.3 v
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeren:
Yep, but can u imagine how long samsung is taking to roll out froyo with its touchwiz? now imagine gingerbread. google announced (or i think rumors ) that gingerbread will be based on a new UI to help reduce android fragmentation. so basically, it will be a whole change in the framework. and thus , starting from 0 for samsung to implement the touchwiz into it. will they do it for a handset which is no longer in their topline (assuming they release new products with their new dual-core processors in 3 months time)?

I also agree that samsung has taking a major step agst the iphone but i dont really think it's the real competitor. I must agree that samsung i9000 is the best hardware wise BUT out of the box, it's terrible. by out of the box, i mean without loading customs roms, or lagfix...just using the phone with factory rom and settings. For the android platform , i think the htc desire could have been the real competitor (not the best hardware wise but performs way better than i9000 out of the box )but HTC do not have a good marketing and publicity. An example , how many ppl know that htc is having its event on the 15th september and its new products would be announced then? barely a few of us!

Samsung came out magnificently, lots of publicity, released a superb product but with mediocre software. Most of the 3 Million ppl do not care abt open-source bla bla bla , a majority if not 90% do not even install custom roms and know the existence of xda. Most ppl are not like us, they just want to use a phone and use the net + some applications. Now imagine someone using an i9000 without lagfix, and a lot of applications installed ... i am sure he'll be swearing to god he never bought it.

there is nothing official stated. some say it is 2.3, some say it is 3.0. guess we'll have to wait for the official statement. honeycomb is the next release aftre gingerbread and it is expected in 2011.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Terracide:
Since the Galaxy S I9000 has almost the same hardware as the Samsung TAB (the Tablet version with android), is it very possible that Gingerbread is coming to the Galaxy S? I mean Samsung already confirmed that the TAB is getting an update to Gingerbread when it comes out.

I certainly hope that it's possible, with all the cool stuff in 3.0!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msri3here:
You certainly are optimistic bro.. :)

Even Froyo(2.2) is not out yet officially on Galaxy S and you are already thinking of Gingerbread..LOL

Well, hope is not a bad thing...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] opica:
http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/25019108305
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
That's kind of what I would be expecting Opica honestly ;)

Gingerbread is still under heavy development...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Snuble:
I would guess there will be made test-versions at least. Also depends on if 3.0 is aimed at newer faster hardware. New software is not always what you want on older hardware.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Prankey:
Galaxy TAB is essentially identical and in many ways inferior hardware (Super AMOLED vs Super TFT) than Galaxy S. So if they target 3.0 on TAB, I don't see any reason it should not come to SGS as well.

Hope we could atleast port TAB's firmware to SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bec07:
Gigngerbread might be only adapted for larger screens aka talets...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marty1976:
I'd so like to see Gingerbread on my Galaxy S, but I have doubts Samsung will release it...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewluecke:
I'd say that's extremely unlikely. Google designed Android to accommodate a huge range of devices..

That being said, this whole thread is useless because nobody can possibly answer it at this time..
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Einride:
What has been mentioned though, is that Gingerbread will be tailored for "high-end" devices (even having minimum requirements for use, not just recommended guidelines like there is now), while 2.1/2.2 will remain for low-end devices. Even 6 months from now, I'd say the Galaxy S is still on the high-end part of the scale.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] satyrus:
Futhermore, by the time Gingerbread hits the market as stable, dual cores are gonna be a must have for high end devices. So no big hopes there for neither of the devices out now.. would it go gold next month I would probably be more optimistic.

Google walks with the mood of the market and 2.2 is the THING for now, so no reason for them to push development..