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[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dreamsforgotten:
I'll help as well, it will be much easier if we sent up a dropbox share folder to all edit a single framework res plus im pretty good inside the xml files. Just an idea to throw or there.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] junkdruggler:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?e4873o0ykspbkj4

This is the metamorph I did for the vibrant.. you can use this as a template for a mm.. They are somewhat easier to edit and flash..
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JungleJiujitsu:
Good looking out dude, I really appreciate you taking the time to help me accomplish what I want on my phone...I asked you this question in the other req thread but will continue here if being that it pertains to this theme......Setting up a dropbox sounds good, how do we do that?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JungleJiujitsu:
Cool I actually got that but got stuck cuz I thought I had to open in NM
[Galaxy S I9000 General] FlorianO:
I'm just venting my frustration (and such appologies to the forum moderators) but I do hope someone is listening.

I've had my SGS for about 2 weeks now. For the first time since I'm using _any_ sort of smartphone (many, many moons) these two weeks were constant tinkering, tweaking, lagfixing, trying leaked beta software etc. -- a LOT of frustration, with very little improvement.

So I came to this conclusion: You just cannot polish a turd

So, dear Samsung let me say it straight:

SGS is a POS. Get your act together, you are losing customers in drones. There is a good reason you are far behind HTC -- YOU SUCK

The irony of it all ? It's all in the SW -- the HW platform seems solid, with a good foundation. However, the horrible, horrible things they've done to the OS and -- not the least that HORRID TouchWhiz simply make me cringe. Personally, I would fire the project manager responsible for this abomination with a geostationary rocket.

In my personal case I've got this phone from work -- there is no chance in hell I would have handed out my hard earned cash for this POS. If, in a moment of insanity, I would have ever done so, not later than the day after I would be prompt back at my local Samsung rep and told them to stick that phone somewhere special and ask for a full refund then and there.

(Again, sincere appologies to the forum moderators -- I hope I am not breaching forum posting rules. At least not too many :))
[Galaxy S I9000 General] opensourcefan:
Not quite sure where your happy or content place is with your sgs but mine is with JH2 and the OCLF V2. Providing it doesn't blow up on me I think I could deal with this for a while. I feel your frustration though, the quest for perfection can certainly be less than gratifying.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TriC_101:
HTC also have their problems as well.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] clubtech:
There is no perfect phone.

I owned TONS of smartphones, most by HTC: the ALL had issues.

In fact i moved away from HTC after the EVO Fiasco if the bad hardware build, 30fps cap after trying the N1 which that CHEAP screen!

There is no perfect phone. deal with it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] salmanslick:
iphone is perfect except for restrictions on it by apple
[Galaxy S I9000 General] salmanslick:
hatin it how samsung keeps moving froyo release date
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pwhooftman:
TS has a point

The topic starter has a point. Coming from a HTC Desire, you clearly experience the poor software. The HTC Desire works far better out of the box. I got my hands on a SGS through swapping providers, otherwise i would have stuck with HTC Desire.

On the other hand, its starting to grow on me, and i expect the Froyo update to make it much better (as it did to the Desire also i must admit).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] clubtech:
Then is it not perfect :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
So go tell Samsung directly if you want them to hear.. There are enough threads with people whinging, so if anything, this is a dupe.

Also, losing customers in drones? Really?? HAHAHAHAHA. Have you got any evidence for that claim? The only customers being lost seem to be at XDA, and some of them are overanalysing, such as the people who were whinging about GPS, have been saying "the iphone wouldn't have that problem", and yet, people have produced tracks which suggests it does. And "lag" is apparently no worse than previous generation devices, it certainly doesn't make the device "unusable" as many exaggerators have claimed

There are problems with every device... The question, is how much the user tries to train themselves to be annoyed by a problem.. On OSX for instance, I'd notice when a program crashed, users don't care.. But on Windows, people almost throw their keyboard
[Galaxy S I9000 General] salmanslick:
dial to get latest news on froyo from samsung:

1-800-ef-kay-samsung
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Lucky you... I was one of those who did hand out hard earned for this POS... and its going to cost me even more to rectify my problem and do what I should have done in the first place: chose the iphone.

If it wasn't for this forum, I probably would have dropped it down the toilet.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] igniztion:
Touchwiz is easily replaced with better options from the Market. There's not a single Android device sold today that have a better Launcher than a couple of the ones on the Market IMO, and it's easy to replace the stock one. + for Android.

In my mind there is only 1 huge problem with this phone, and that is the RFS filesystem that causes lag.

GPS is an issue as well, but nothing major. It works well enough for most people.

Other than these 2 issues, this phone is awesome.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] huxflux2003:
This is the best phone I have ever bought. If it was stolen, I would but another one for sure. I an not sure why you are going nuts about it, but I am sure that types like you whiners would go crazy about a "prefect" iphone (lol) as well!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ~gtw:
My mates with Iphones do not have the same gps problems as I do. If I geocache with them my gps jumps wildly and cannot in many cases get me close enough to find something. The iphones haven't had any problems, though appear to have worse accuracy "in general". I think when the gps is fixed it will be heaps more accurate, but it's fluctuation now makes it virtually useless.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] exadeci:
Not really :p http://discussions.info.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1139
[Galaxy S I9000 General] l00k:
I've spent the last 4 months looking for a good phone after having an iphone 3G which once jailbroken was superb but I got bored of it in the end and the battery life was terrible.

I had the Dell Streak which I got rid of because I didnt like Dells silence over the 2.1 update or the US launch and in all honesty its a bit big.

I sold the streak and got a cheap sony x10 mini pro which was a really nice little phone even though it was on 1.6 with no definate date for upgrade and when someone on here wanted to trade his HTC Desire for it I jumped at the chance.

The Desire was really good solid build stock 2.2 was very good but sense annoyed me and slowed the phone down. Multi touch was terrible. the desire cant even do 2 point touch properly let alone five like the SGS. This made playing games impossible and the HTC bluetooth stack is borked so it doesnt support wiiremotes unless you flash opendesire.

So I sold that and got an SGS for £9 more off ebay and I like it

I've had my SGS for 2 days now. It was on 2.1 JF3 when I got it so I rooted it and put on the lag fix. It was still under performing so I put the newest build of 2.2 on the JPK thing. installed launcher pro which is the closest to stock 2.2 I've found.

Although its still an early version it flies. I think people have to keep the faith a bit. Companies are terrible at shipping devices to market too early just to beat the competition. I think thats happened alot this year.

There isnt a single perfect Android device out there right now and if your after perfection you really shouldnt consider android. Its great for geeks like me who like to tinker. If thats not you then go get a nokia or an iphone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tesmond:
I even registered for this

I own a SGS my wife owns an iPhone4. I feel my phone is significantly better, despite my wife's phone costing significantly more.

The iphone is not perfect...things I dont like

1. They do not yet have a free satnav app.

2. You cannot email more than one photo at the same time.

3. Does not have swype

4. Smaller screen

5. No back button (top left corner of screen always has to have a back button)

6. You have to pay extra for everything (ring tones etc.)

7. SGS is much more resistant to drop based damage

8. No customisable home screen for regularly used functions which occasionally are multi-level deep in an iPhone

9. No removable storage

10. No chance of a flash browser...

Do not get me wrong the iPhone 4 is an exceptionally good phone, but the SGS IMO is better and cheaper!

Additionally I have noticed my battery lasts a day longer than my wife's (completely unscientific testing though).

For balance I will point out the things on my wife's phone that are superior to SGS

1. Camera has a flash (the flash is not great, but it is better than nothing).

2. The text rendering is superior

3. The safari touch screen movement is superior (difficult to explain why you need to use both to appreciate what I mean)

My wife's iPhone 4 regularly (approx twice weekly) asks her to re-enter the wifi security code for our house, that bug to me is far more annoying than anything I have experienced on my phone so far.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nCoder:
Great!

Welcome to the community.

Excelent post.

Congratulations and thank you for the analysis.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] salmanslick:
music on iphone sounds way better than sgs.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
I forgot to add - +1 to this as well...

I wonder how many people who put down the iphones music performance are just listening with the crap headphones bundled with it.

Plug a half decent set of headphones in, and tell me, honesty, does anyone REALLY think the SGS sounds better, because I sure as hell don't.

To be fair, I do have an idea what good sound quality is as I consider myself to be something of an audiophile and would not suffer poor quality kit.

I do not find myself using the SGS as a music player, because a 2 year old Sony MP3 player I have is HUGELY better.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
That's strange because I see many conflicting reports about the music quality.

I'm happy of the SGS sound quality here. I tested 2 iPhone4s, my old trusty ipod nano which has 5 years, on grado and other headphones, made a couple of audio amateurs test too, used flac and mp3s alike and the conclusion is always

- the 5y old ipod has pretty bad quality

- the SGS has very good quality

- the iPhone 4 has similar quality to the SGS

I have not tested thoroughly with the 3GS which I also have around :( I expect something similar anyway.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Personally, I find the sound somewhat muffled and lacking detail - it's hard to put a finger on it really, but it just doesn't quite sound right, and there seems to be some very subtle audio artifacts in the sound too.

I actually prefer the sound with the "music clarity" effect turned on, but then I find its a little bass light, and can sound a bit "aggressive" and clinical, and although touted as clarity, the sound actually seems to lose some details.

That said, its no worse than any other android phone I've heard.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ickyboo:
Myth Busters proves you CAN polish a turd into a very cool looking marble :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ickyboo:
You could try the audio fix and try it, its in the forums someplace. You just need to change some settings via phone dialer.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=735918
[Galaxy S I9000 General] exadeci:
The problem is that android is devlopped to run on so many different hardwares that's really hard to implement. I mean ios is developped only for 4 differents devices with similar hardware so it's a lot easier.

I don't think that android device will ever be stock perfect because every single doesn't have the same behaviour that's said there is a far better and skilled community around android so it should eventually not be an issue at all.

Maybe someday you will just have to run a soft to "fix" automatically what needs to be "fixed" on your android phone the same way Ios user have to jailbreak
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
Just feeling like replying to the random other things which I'll get flamed for anyways:

- screens are indeed a draw for me too, advantages for one and the other are well known and very noticeable

- flash on the phone is pretty cool, and i've not really had the phone slow down (never been on a site with 30 flash ads either, usually 1 or 2 and a video). slower on "non optimized" videos tho, but in general its a good experience and i would dearly miss it if it wasnt there

-build quality appears very good to me, and being light and thin it's a big + for me. yeah it has no metal body. that has nothing to do with quality in my eyes.

- the sgs battery probably depends a lot on the apps installed (many apps have background stuff on android, from the moment u install..), the settings and the firmware. Using GSM/WCDMA switch and being careful what i'm installing, no autokiller of course (that's an abomination.. :p) I'm getting more battery life than my mates iphone4. they can't customize the battery usage the way I do.

Without paying attention to what I install, forcing always WCDMA, full brightness, etc I can get a pretty low battery life (like 8-9h of "more or less standby" vs 50H otherwise)

- now again, with one of the 2 iphone4 owners around, who is a professional photographer as well we compare cameras often. the ip4 camera is not very good and it process the image A LOT which makes it look more "bling" but makes it lose a lot of real detail, colors, etc.

In general, some kind of lights and shots are slightly better on the ip4, and most were better on the SGS (especially low light)

- video: the SGS does pretty good, but the ip4 does arguably as good or better. hard to say. both record at 10mbits. i'd rather they had a better codec and use a slightly lower bitrate. x264 makes better quality at 5mbit than these at 10 ;)

- personally i feel like android and iOS "move around" about the same.. o.O

- as much as the sgs is SLOW on stock, and not that fast on froyo and/or on regular lagfixes, it is a BEAST on voodoo fix. Voodoo happens to be the only proper fix, so this explains that.

I was VERY disappointed by the lag initially and even an old symbian phone was faster. Now, even the iphone4 is slower, heh.

- Less buggy - this surely cannot be denied. <= what can i say? :D

- apps: arguable. overally games etc are better on the ip4, no doubt. Also currently apps are usually "on iOS first". But I miss stuff like adblocking, google sky, and a couple of other apps on iOS.

- GPS <= what can i say? :D

- update. on iOS you dont need a paid app but you do need a backup + restore on upgrade, otherwise 90% of the time the phone does funky stuff. easier software but similar core issues.

Now my perfect phone certainly has not yet arrived :P

It'd need a SAMOLED-retina display, 4x the battery life, 2x the speed, and 10x better camera, with a bugfree, meego-like (as in real "Linux") OS ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bilboa1:
Yeah, I added all supercurio fixes and he makes the SGS really good.

One thing we didn't mention here is the screen color. It's wrong on the SGS. More wrong than on the iphone4 by the way.

With Curio's fix, the color is perfect !

- curio color fix : perfect colors

- curio sound fix: super sound

- curio lag fix: phone's fast as hell

i suppose i should go donate to that guy :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] doctorxerxes:
Flash jm8 and install voodoo...

Bruce banner just turned into the hulk... :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tameracingdriver:
Good discussion this, I think. Always good to get stuff off your chest.

I'll probably give it one more try... I'm on JM7 at the minute, but I may flash to JM8 so I can use one of the lite ROMs such as Tatayuma or whatever its called, and see if that improves matters much... but as things stand now, I still may get rid, but I may also give it one more chance to see if I can make it work.... the GPS thing is a bummer though.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Unrealwolf:
For me, there is only two major things to blame in the phone - shortage of RAM (dont tell me that unused ram is wasted ram, with 50 mb free phone becames very slow) and lag. As far as i know, lag is reduced in new firmwares (i am still on jm5 with colorfixless voodoo and i dont know for sure), so RAM shortage is the biggest issue.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] racerboy3801:
just on the power usage concerning GSM & WCDMA. the reason that the phone uses less power when in GSM mode is that it uses less power. This is the same for all phones. you will get better battery life when 3g is off because the radios consume more then gsm signals.

i use apn droid when im almost empty on power and when i dont use 3g for internet(i cant tell the difference in call quality) so i save what charge i have left
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MAMBO04:
I'm on an edge with this phone.

Firstly, we all have to admit that the hardware is top notch. I used to have a Omnia i900 and to be honest, that phone has more in common with this one (as in problem wise, not hardware or software wise!). The hardware on the SGS is awesome, but i have to agree that TouchWiz is just too bland, and it doesn't do the phone any justice. I'm used to it tho now, as it grows on you slowly, but i'd prefer something like Sense on a phone of this calibur.

Back to my i900 point, that phone had really good hardware (for that time) and it outshone other phones because of that, but the main problem which pulled it down was indeed, the OS/Software. Windows Mobile 6 was horrible, my thumb became sore after 2 hours of use just by prodding on the screen to open an app. Ok, the screen sensitivity was crap but the point is the OS was crap, and that was the main issue with it. Yes, custom ROMs and WM6.5.X came out and they were much better, and M2D was ported etc, but there was no interaction from Samsung in regards to updates, which we all kinda expected... my point is, that phone died down because of the software issues, and it's hard to say if the SGS will go down that route because of the software.

I like the phone, with voodoo lagfix etc its superb, but even Android wasn't what i expected, it's good, don't get me wrong, but it just needs that little bit more to be polished and become an even bigger contender. It has a lot of potential but it's surprising to see that there isn't much going on in relation to creation of apps and games which are available on the iPhone, even Skype isn't available which is pretty astounding...

I think this will probably be my last Samsung handset too, i was set on switching from my i900 to an iPhone, which i did, but then returned it for the SGS, which wasn't a mistake, but an experience. GPS is a little haywire atm with JM8 but it's alright, and i just WISH there was a flash for the camera, otherwise the phone is fine for me, even without Froyo. If Samsung does a second version of this phone, and they change the plasticky casing to a better quality one etc and fix it, add a flash, i'll get that one because by then Android will be much stronger and so will the phone. Samsung is trying to copy Apple by releasing a 3 line product, so the SGS is their iPhone, the Yepp is their iPod, and the Tab is their iPad, so i don't see why they wouldn't keep on making it stronger.

If someone integrated ALL of the voodoo fixes into a ROM, that would work out to be brilliant IMO. But yeah, time will tell. So, summed up:

Hardware is:

Software is:

:)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
i switched from HTC to Samsung because of that
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kryston:
just about the iphone, you can't even call someone due the reception issue, call will drop everytime, thats just ****ty.

cut your fingers, then you will be able to call someone.

IMO thats a fail.

but sure, gps and filesystem > making a call on a phone *ironie off*

I like my SGS, can't understand all this whining. if you don't like it, sell it and don't spam the forum oO

There are a few bugs for sure, but like others in that thread said, no phone is perfect.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] d3885u:
Couldn't agree more with you..just wondering why a lot of people like to wasting their time for whinning and complaining about some product they'd bought...

If you don't like it and then sell it, just as simple like that...stop whinning and comparing with other phones...

Every phones have their own weaknesses...

I'm getting sick hearing people said that iphone is the best lah..the most stable lah...the great in display, camera, music and bla...bla...bla...

For me the most important thing is the hardware aspect...as long as the hardware seems ok and doesn't have major problem, I'll stick with it. If the problem came from software aspect, I still can be patient to wait until it fixed as long as the developer/maker still working on it...

For the SGS case, its seems its just a software problem which is still can be fixed by a software/firmware update...the hardware is superior and it can be stated as a most powerful handheld devices nowadays...

But dont you forget the reality about apple could be superior right now its just because they also used processor that samsung had built...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xZeDgEx:
Understand how you feel. Coming from a Nexus one which performed pretty much flawlessly, the SGS leaves alot to be desired. I am holding out for froyo, if many of the issues still persist I am bailing out and will never go near a samsung phone again. One plus, at least yours hasnt died yet. ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] FlorianO:
Exactly the same story here -- I still have my "dear" Omnia just beside me as I switched to SGS coming from Omnia. And yes, that one I payed my own money to get it (and payed a premium price since I wanted to have it early :))

Just like yourself, I had to do a lot of tweaking on the Omnia to get it in a workable condition -- specially cooked WM6.5 ROM, GPS Gate for GPS, PocketInformant, etc. etc...And all that is thanks to the useful crews here and MoDaCo that put in the effort (for which I am thankful).

In retrospect, I should have known better to get another Samsung phone. But whaddaya know..

Listing here all the issues I have would take more than I care to type. Suffice to say it's everything from TouchWhiz to the idiotic Dialer, Calender, Contacts ...well, 90+% of the stuff that I _need_ to use day in and day out. That is, if I plan to use it for work instead of a just having a yet another nice toy hanging around (passed that age some time ago...).

So yes -- if history is anything to go by, the SGS will most likely go down the same route.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Jeshter2000:
Stop *****ing just wait!

Sent from my Spaceship!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] salmanslick:
install audioboost from market and sgs will sound way better than ipg / iphone crap :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] chasist:
yeah, i sold my SGS and i get an iPhone4..very happy now..wont bother using samsung anymore..worst customer service in the world, selling a phone that everything need to be fixed..wtf
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kryston:
have fun, now you need a bumper to get your phone working, looks pretty cool such a ugly bumper. :P
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ro4sho:
Ehr, why aren't you on the hackintosh forums.