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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nakebod:
Too bad GSM only/GSM auto doesn't make any difference for you. It could mean a terrible network coverage in general, not only poor 3G coverage/reception.

Just flashed my radio ROM to 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2, no change.

For now I've switched temporary to GSM only, since this setting only uses 5-7 mA.

Unless somebody has another tip of course. Tomorrow I will check in another village a few kilometers further, thus another cell, what the power consumption is with GSM auto.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
Just did a quick check. On GSM only it uses 7-8mA indeed.

Also noticed something else:

3G: signal -100dBm

2G: signal -75dBm.

Could that be causing something?

At work I got more like 70-80 as well.... and on 3G good power consumption.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nakebod:
2G -71 dBm 20 asu

3G -93 dBm 10 asu

I have to check @ work, but I think it is indeed near -70, -75 dBm.

So the 3G signal is too weak?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
I'm in no way a telephone signal engineer, but it sounds pretty frigging logical to me....

Try to find an area with better 3G-reception and report back please ;D

Btw, sorry for hijacking your topic chareos12.... I honestly thought I had the same issue you had.

On the other hand, we Dutchies will get the topic bumped for you :P
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swine...:
Your battery use is still most confusing. It is not down to the ROM or Radio it would seem, as you have ruled them out. I would say it is also not relevant on which screen you actually have in the phone, as you are getting the power reading which the screen is off.

What power reading do you get if you boot up the phone with no Sim card inside, and every other feature disabled?

I tested with my Sim card removed:

With the screen on auto brightness which in my current situation equals a brightness level of 12 I have a 122mA use.

With the screen left off and the phone left to idle for 2 mins I get a value of 3mA

*These tests were obviously tested with a fresh boot of the phone.

Sim card removed and Airplane mode enabled:

With the screen on auto brightness which in my current situation equals a brightness level of 12 I have a 123mA use.

With the screen left off and the phone left to idle for 2 mins I get a value of 2mA

* These tests really didn't make any difference

Looking back at other things you have tried, that is my last hope, a bit random but still :D

**Edit**

Sim card back in:

3G on

Screen on 127mA

Screen off 6mA

2G on:

Screen on 127mA

Screen off 4mA

However I run my phone I seem to get the same results give or take a little. Maybe it is actually your handset which is at fault?

Any way best of luck with your issue. :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
All your numbers seems to be quite logical, and to be expected.

Troubles come when 80-100 mA still occour with no som card inserted, or everything off...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swine...:
Then my friend I think your quest is never-ending. I would try going to a local mobile phone shop and trying another battery, and then if that did not work I would give up on life and try and send the phone back to HTC. :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Yes. Definitely, tomorrow is my last day on this quest.

I tried and excluded mostly everything, just have to try a couple of things (mms APN as suggested in OD topic, and moving far away from my cell and see if standby goes down to normal)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] th3:
OP: You have some read/write errors showing up and a 'PowerManagerService' keeping your phone from standby i.e an active wake lock. Your phone doesn't 'sleep' every time the screen is going off. I'm not sure what that belongs to but that's one major problem at least.

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Interesting, thank you !

Do you have any clue about that read/write error ? Is it relative to SD card or Internal (or perhaps, "internal" on sdcard) ?

Hmmm... maybe rom manager - fix permissions... ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Googling PowerManagerService, is related to kernel it seems; but I'd expect a much wider range of desperate users, for such a problem right up in the kernel...

maybe it's triggered by something else.

Hard to belive it's an hardware issue. Unless that wrting error means "defective internal storage/whatever is called". But again, how could flashing roms/ruu succeed with such a hw failure ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Tried "fix permissions" in a desperate attempt to fix those read/write errors. Same drain.

Tried fix APNs. Same drain.

Took my car, moved 30+ km from home and tested. Same drain. Reflashed once there, many radios: same drain.

Back home, removed sim and SD card and flashed RUU again. Same drain.

Time to send it in for service.

May god help me.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MRE-net:
Interesting thread. Started to monitor just this morning.

Setup:

HTC Desire with LeeDroid 2.1 ROM

Latest radio: 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14

Location: at work in a brand new building with poor 3G reception (so continually switching between G and 3G/H

No Wifi, but 3 exchange pushmail accounts to monitor.

2 year old KPN sim card.

As you can see in the screenshot, when screen is off, I have a nice value between -2mA (lowest) and 8mA (highest).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomurbanowicz:
Pleas mark in mA the value on Y oxis. What value in mA on Y is "0", and what "-600"?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] th3:
Actually, my apologies because I wrote that out wrong, sloppy. It's not PowerManagerService.java causing the wake lock but it is reporting it. We know what this service does i.e. http://www.netmite.com/android/mydr...a/com/android/server/PowerManagerService.java

If you have an SD card, remove it (keep SIM), full boot, idle and then turn the screen off using the power button, collecting Logcat errors for just that period. There must be more errors.

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smultie:
really? How about 0 is 0mA and -600 is -600mA? Not that hard, right?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Unfortunately, my phone is at service since 1 hour.

10 (yeeeeaaaaahh... suuuuure) days till I get it back.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shockem:
Hey, I had this same problem as you and it happen to all froyo non sense Rom. But on all sense roms it was fine. Firstly download this app called system panel. You would realise that the CPU usage and clockspeed is always at the maximum. That's the reason. I don't know what is wrong too but just use a sense Rom till there is a fix. Hope that helped! :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
Service swapped my motherboard completely. New IMEI and all.

Now I enjoy 5-7mA with wifi and everything on.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pablo.va87:
I'm having a similar problem, when I keep my phone locked during a while and I unlock it I have a battery drain of 200 or 300 mA...

Also my camera is not working, it doesn't mind which ROM or radio I use.

I think I'm going to send it to HTC to repair it...

Any help?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chareos12:
If you already tried an hard reset and disabling everything (I mean, EVERYTHING... gps, wifi, 3g, bluetooth, any data sync) and power usage still that high... then yes, your best bet is to bring it to service.

I strongly suggest to reflash latest RUU before.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _Flea_:
Unfortunately I have the same problem as you guys.

Since I left KPN for T-Mobile this issue appeared.

I tried several things liking radio's etc.

Now I placed a KPN sim in my Desire and it seems that the problem is gone for now.

As soon as I wake up de phone, the mA is rising. After 1,5 minute is falls back to approx. 3-7mA.

Just now I replaced the sim for T-Mobile and the problems are back.

Is sending it back to HTC the only solution? Or could it be the sim?
[Epic 4G General] livejamie:
I bought the physical dock which turns the phone into a desktop clock basically and I really dislike the Samsung Application it comes with, it's not customizable at all.

I'm looking for an application that will start when it's plugged into power, show me the time and the weather attractively in full-screen mode.

Right now I'm using Kaloer Clock which isn't bad, just wanted to see what others were using.

http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/lifestyle/kaloer-clock-alarm-clock_nrh.html
[Epic 4G General] rawsoup:
This should be in themes and apps, but yeah i really do not like how the dock is set up. I was hoping for a droid like home screen but i guess samsung can't do that.
[General Questions and Answers] Dr.Thrax:
I bought this mobile

CPU: PMAP850

speed:201

Ram:128

Rom:256

Data Bus:16 bits

storage size:167.18 MB

Display:240-320

colors:65536

bluetooth V.2.0

>>>>

i cannt name the phone

is it elf/elfin???

and can i install android on it ??

plz help ASAP

tnx
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redechelon:
Currently, my phone is rooted using unrEVOked 3.21. I wanted to uninstall bloatware, so I had researched what was safe to remove... well apparently I removed more than I could, or it's a different issue, because the newest OTA update wont complete.

I get the "Triangle Exclamation Point" screen, and says it can't find Flickr...

I'm curious... what is the best way to do this?

-Should I Un-Root to the stock 2.2 that came on my phone... then update to the newest OTA, then re-root?

-Or is it possible to just Un-Root and update straight to 3.29.651.5 in one step, and then Re-Root?

Thanks for your help =]
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cy_n_ic:
I had the same problem, ota wont work if ur missing any stock apps so u need to unroot then flash pc36img, install ur ota then reroot, finaly make a nand with everything stock and up to date to go back to for the next round of ota..also instead of deleting stock apps u could rename them to whatever.apk.old or move them to sdcard or desktop for safe keeping, hope thos helps im still quite noobish myself :-)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lehalter:
Can you not just run the update.zip and update it over whatever you got going on?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cy_n_ic:
Not if ur missing any stock apps like all the sprint stuff, the update wont fly
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redechelon:
Yeah, fun stuff haha =P. I ended up finding a PC36IMG of the newest OTA, so I just flashed that, then re-rooted... worked like a charm actually. I coudn't find a PC36IMG of the newest OTA before, so I didn't know what to do. The .old tip is a keeper, will be using that, thanks.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cy_n_ic:
Welcome, i keep a copy of the img on my computer for safe keeping make sure to rename it if u want to keep the copy on ur sdcard otherwise it will auto run on every reboot :-)
[Desire General] kellyj1978:
hello,

im on a vodafone contract, when going to vodafone.live.co.uk

the website says i am roaming. But im not roaming as im in the uk.

my apn settings are

name - vodafon internet

apn - internet

proxy - not set

port - not set

username - wap

password - wap

server - not set

authentification - none

apn type - *
[Desire General] kellyj1978:
I have updated my radio to 5.11.05.14

would this have cased the problem?
[Android Apps and Games] livejamie:
I bought the physical dock which turns the phone into a desktop clock basically and I really dislike the Samsung Application it comes with, it's not customizable at all.

I'm looking for an application that will start when it's plugged into power, show me the time and the weather attractively in full-screen mode.

Right now I'm using Kaloer Clock which isn't bad, just wanted to see what others were using.

http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/lifestyle/kaloer-clock-alarm-clock_nrh.html
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] damo182:
hey all

I am looking for a widget that can simply turn the screen off, I press and the screen goes off.

I have searched but cant find anything that works

Thanks
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] lufc:
I have seen a couple of apps in my travels go have a look in the android development I'm sure an xda member cooked one up a few weeks back,and from what i remember android does not switch off straight away like WM does it has a delay built in :)
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] grizlore:
I was looking for one of these some months ago.

I was told that there wasnt one which stopped the screen straight away, however I found on. UNFORTUNATELY, I can't find it again. (I am on my third Streak)

It wasn't badged as a screen off, but it was a single widget which locked the device (aka turned off the screen, as if you had pressed the power button)

I would love to find it again!
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] checkbox111:
Screen off

http://android.konreu.com/applications/screen-off/

I don't see the point myself, why don't you just hit the power button :confused:
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] damo182:
Yyhat link doesnt work no item found, the power button is in a weird spot for my liking and since i use no lock and open with th volume button
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] checkbox111:
Then why don't you do a google search for an android app called 'scren off'
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] damo182:
Ah i have googled it MOD EDIT !! and cant find one, if you are so MOD EDIT !! brilliant you find one

Every link i find to screenoff app is dead

I thought these forums were to help people
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] *Omnipresent*:
Same app on appbrain.

http://www.appbrain.com/app/screen-off/com.konreu.android.screenoff
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] checkbox111:
Pick up your android phone and go to somewhere called the 'android marketplace' you may even have an app already installed for that so no need to search for that thank goodness.

In the search bar enter 'sreen off' it should be at the top of the list
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] ricoks:
i have a question, maybe this is android related, maybe streak, not sure.

I come from WM6.5 background, so forgive me if this is a 'duh' question:

when I am listening to music, or recording or, anything really, if the screen turns off, it shuts the whole phone down. including wifi (loses connection)

is there a way to have the screen dim/off to save battery, but still be active.

biggest is music/recording. when I am recording something (meeting, etc) I have to force the screen to stay on in order for it to continue recording. same thing goes for uploading to youtube - i have to keep the screen on for it to continue it's connection.

Am I missing something??

Thanks for the help
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] Radimus:
try an app called "free power widget"

you can adjust the screen timeout so it is short or long

you can easily adjust screen brightness

you can adjust the wifi lock and a bunch of other settings.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] damo182:
This is dead as well.............
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] checkbox111:
There's something wrong with your connection, (that's your internet one, not the one within your head the connects your lobes together, especially the lobe containing common sense) :)
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] Keethos:
What you could do to stop you from losing your Wi-Fi connection when in sleep mode is try going into Settings -> Wireless controls -> Wi-Fi settings -> press menu button then Advanced -> then select Wi-Fi sleep policy and change the option to Never. This should I think keep Wi-Fi active when your screen is off (stops of the phone from switching to mobile data and by default is set to do so when the screen is off).
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] damo182:
whatever, actually try and install and see how you go
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] OrionBG:
I tried the link and it IS NOT dead! the page opens within a sec.!
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] damo182:
Thats why i said try and install the app and see how you go

OMFG

yes i know the LINK above works. However if try and make the next step, you get error message

there are no matches in android market for the search :pname:com.konreu.android,screenoff

If i scan the barcode some thing, and appbrain app list the app in the search results but "request cannot be found" if you click on

I am not an idiot
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] montecristo1:
Coming from Windows Mobile, a SIMPLE power off app is hard to find on Android. I had one on my WM Touch Pro2 on my homescreen- simple tab and off.

Over the months of trying to find a simple FREE app- this is what I have so far encountered.

Screen Off .99 and Power Off .99- are available. But due to a so call security reason for Android, it will not power off the phone immediately- screen is off- but you can see the hardware lights on. I found another tip that you will have to modify an API to do so.

Yes, many, many, many, Google searches and this is what i found.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] alex_herrero:
You can try a widget called Extended Controls. They are awesome and include a screen off widget, I use it all the time to turn my screen off.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] lsweeting:
Widgetsoid offers a hugely customisable power control widget which includes a screen lock button. It's working brilliantly for me on o2 2.2!
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] grizlore:
Screen Off and Lock

market://search?q=pname:com.katecca.screenofflock

Does exactly what I want... Press it and it turns off screen, and locks it (if u have that setting turned on)

Sorted
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brennod10:
So i tried to remove the gps disabled icon in the status bar by pushing a modified com.htc.resources to my evo, but of course i ended up putting it in a boot loop. so does anyone have an unmodified com.htc.resouces. if it matters i was on Fresh 3.3.0.1(the latest one).

EDIT: Ok so i tried reflashing fresh and that worked, so i got the com.htc. resources apk on the root of my sdcard... but i cant figure out how to push it to the phone. Can someone at least help me with this step???
[General Topics] MaybachMan:
So, I've read both horror stories and fairytales about HTC's customer service, but it's skewed; it's obvious that people are more likely to make a thread when they've had a problem with something.

So, I've done a poll. If you could take a second to participate it'd be very helpful. Thanks! :)
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] FIDO23:
Hi,

I'm looking for a software that can lock the device with password(and stays locked after soft reset).

I want this to be a software that has no connection to the default windows lock screen so that i can lock the device on a daily basis when needed but the i can unlock it fast and only activate the software that locks it with a password when i want to specifically.

can anyone help?
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] nos2k5:
try this...
[XPERIA X1 Themes and Apps] FIDO23:
Thank you very much - downloading now :-)
[Click General] nelenzi:
why not combine all the developers working on the Android platform and build a good 2.x android for htc tattoo????

MOVED TO GENERAL
[Click General] jigsaw956:
cause they haven't the same vision of a rom
[Click General] nelenzi:
i know, but they can make new rom, the best version of all this roms...
[Click General] manilu001:
this is very good idea
[Click General] ikxdf:
the reason is simple: because all dev want the exclusive of camera fix and don't want collaborate.

I have try to talk for a collaboration...no response...

This is the situation of the tattoo thread!

good alone developing!
[Click General] caballero600:
If I was a developer I would work in this... but not yet, I don't know enough about roms
[Click General] HCDR.Jacob:
I'd happily work with other devs for a fix, it's for the community, not personal gain. Don't generalise by saying "all devs" please :P :)
[EVO 4G General] Plancy:
It was just added less than an hour ago, the beta was awesome and it's hands down the greatest IM app available. You can get it for $9.99.

I have the latest Beta APK.
[EVO 4G General] DirtyShroomz:
Way too expensive...
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
No kidding, $10 for a messaging app?
[EVO 4G General] Sporkman:
10 crazy :eek:
[EVO 4G General] Bielinsk:
Not many are going to spend $10 for any app, let alone an IM app.
[EVO 4G General] stkman32:
usa is in a recession!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What are they thinking?????!!!!!!!!!
[EVO 4G General] MSmith1:
I dont care if this app granted three wishes and one of them was for another Evo, I still wouldnt spend $10 on it.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
You can get into the Trillian beta for free. MUCH better than Beejive.
[EVO 4G General] mizzos4:
Yeah, I was using Beejive beta but it's somewhat laggy to me. Guess I'll test out Trillian beta.
[EVO 4G General] MSmith1:
Does it murder your battery life all other IM apps?
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I have both of the latest betas (Trillian/Beejive). I don't use Trillian enough to say with absolute certainty if it does or doesn't but I can say that Beejive has cloud based notifications and Trillian doesn't. So it probably does murder your battery. I personally like Trillian's simplified/native UI but Beejive is ahead there but $10 worth? Na.
[EVO 4G General] :
Does anyone have the beta for trillian?

Beejive is overpriced. I orchard it on my iPhone and it sucks I'd have to but it again.
[EVO 4G General] MSmith1:
This is the second time that I've heard of this "cloud based" system and I know that it is Google's version of push and I know that Beejive uses it but, Beejive still causes a full wakelock and in my testing of the latest beta, it is not that good on battery either. It's not maybe eBuddy or Fring status but, it's not what I want it to be. Especially because it causes a wakelock. I could never spend $10 on something that causes a wakelock. I don't care how good it's supposed to be on battery.

I guess we won't see an IM app that can sleep in the background fully and wake only to receive/send date anytime soon?
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Might just be some bugs they have to work out? Chrome to phone doesn't seem to kill the battery or leave it awake?

One of the big things that Android lacks that iOS currently does well is push notifications. Having a ton of apps polling every x minutes just KILLS the battery, not to mention that it does give you (near) real time updates. I'm really hoping that Facebook and Twitter (which ironically is only soon going to get push notifications on iOS) adopt this in future updates.
[EVO 4G General] MSmith1:
Maybe so, this is the last beta before going into the market that im talking about. Im not going to spend 10 bills to see if that's worked itself out though.

Edit: the beejive beta is murking my battery. Uninstalled.
[EVO 4G General] thenags:
Hmm.. I wonder if I can transfer my Blackberry license.
[EVO 4G General] :
Probably not you'd have to buy it again.
[EVO 4G General] TheBiles:
Trillian does use the same push notification system as Beejive. Get the beta here.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
I don't think so. Look at the app's permissions. It's not there for Trillian but it is for Beejive.

Edit: There's a new beta, gonna' see if I missed a important update or two.
[EVO 4G General] MSmith1:
Its there in the permissions for the newest beta. Both are going to murk the piss out of your battery though either way. The cloud messaging lessens the effect on battery but from my tests, its not enough.
[EVO 4G General] Award Tour:
Yeah, I just noticed that my beta is out dated. I don't really see a reason to pay $10 now (or ever) for Beejive. Trillian is much better IMO.
[EVO 4G General] abanh:
I've been using pingchat and I think it works well. It uses push notification so it doesn't drain the battery. It's also free and also available for iPhone and blackberry users.

When I first tested with a blackberry user he wasn't getting notifications, buy after he uninstalled and reinstalled the app everything seems to work. The group chat function is nice too.
[EVO 4G General] lesjaw:
imo.im is the best.. battery friendly..
[EVO 4G General] MSmith1:
Lost 20%+ of my battery overnight running beejive in the background....