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[Desire General] hsv23:
You were right i tried it with a older pc and it was successful. But When i booted it went into a bootloop. I then restored a Nandroid backup which restored successfully but then stuck on a bootloop. Tried another nandroid backup and the samething.

Then i re-installed the fresh rom and after being stuck on the bootanimation for the longest period ever it booted up.

Was wondering if the nandroid backups arent compatible with the version of Clockwork recovery 2.5.1.8 which was installed with s-off.Do i have to flash an older recovery to use those nandroid backups?
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Yes i experienced that too..The 2.5.1.8 (also the one from alpharev) has some bugs in restoring..Flash the 2.5.0.7 recovery (or the previous that was working for u)
[Desire General] hsv23:
trying to reflash old recovery

Alrighty, im trying to reflash an old recovery(2.5.0.7) i think, so maybe my old nandroid backups will work. I was going with the adb fastboot commands, i had to reinstall the sdk cuz i reinstalled windows lately. There is a new sdk for gingerbread i beleieve.Now it seems the adb commands has moved from tools to platform-tools. so i go into that folder using the cli to use the fastboot commands to flash the recovery image but i get the msg "is not a recognized command etc etc".using the cli i went into the old tools folder where fastboot.exe exists and and tried again and i got a .dll error. That dll is in platform-tools folder so i copied it to the tools folder and ran the command again but still wouldnt work. just said couldnt do it.

Any help on how to flash an older recovery?

btw i ran the command prompt in administrator mode
[Desire General] rraaka:
you can install a newer recovery with unrevoked 3.21 , you have to have the right drivers installed, HTC sync uninstalled and then before plugging in the phone select the required recovery in the file drop down.....i like to have oxygen froyo stable rom during the proceedure. you can also use fastboot commander available in this forum i think.
[Desire General] hsv23:
Hey thanks. I sort of half fixed my problem. I remember reading Rom manager has an old recovery and if you boot recovery from it the old one loads. So I did that and my nandroid backup I made before the s-off worked, woohoo.

I still might try flash a newer or older recovery, which ever one works.
[Desire General] andQlimax:
If u want use fastboot commands, add those paths to ur "Path" variable..

....;C:\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools\;C:\android-sdk-windows\tools\

Of course put ur sdk installation folder path. After that, u can use adb and fastboot in every folder, without go into /tools throught cmd
[Desire General] hsv23:
Do you mean add them to Windows path variables?

On a side note, would it work if I copied splash1.img using root explorer into the appropriate directory?
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Yes, add them to windows path variable.

As for what i know, u can change the splash screen only with fastboot command, the splash is not on /system os something like that.
[Desire General] rraaka:
by this method you wont get to have a permanent recovery which you need in times of crisis when you cant boot into your rom and want to do nandroid restore by vol down and power method :rolleyes:
[Desire General] mlindert:
When Fastboot is a bit too hardcore why don't you try Android Flasher, it's Fastboot with a GUI :)
[Desire General] hsv23:
thanks worked like a charm, but it seems connectivity is my issue. The actual commands dont work. when i connect the usb it says fastboot usb, but when i type adb devices nothing comes up and if i type adb shell it says error:device not found.

I have installed htc sync with the drivers then uninstalled htc sync and left the drivers behind though. Any ideas?
[Desire General] hsv23:
Would you happen to know if the latest clockwork recovery 3.x.x.x would load my 2.5.0.7 nandroid backups? Maybe i should ask in the clockwork recovey thread.

just thinking if i should flash my old working recovery or a latest version.
[Desire General] Meaple:
Why not keep 3.0.0.5 and just fake flash 2.5.0.7 and then run your backups. It's what I did when I couldn't run flashable files.
[Desire General] hsv23:
ATM i dont even have 3.0.0.5, i have the 2.5.1.8. What is this fake flash can you explain more?

i just flashed back to cwm 2.5.0.7.
[Desire General] 4ondra:
Hello,

I have a big problem with my Desire. Am currently using latest Leedroid, I used Alpharev 1.8 tool from live cd. Everything went good. But after that I cant apply my nandroid backup. Phone boots but after home screen is displayed it fails to bootloop, shows home, boot, home boot and so on.

Tried to reflash rom, everything went good till I made new backup and applied it.

Any ideas?

Would be grateful
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Read few pages back..Flash back ur previous working recovery and use that.
[Desire General] 4ondra:
Thanks a lot. Tried and worked like a charm... :-D
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Someone from alpharev should post a warning that this recovery (2.5.1.8) can have some problem with restoring backups..The problems are related to the recovery 2.5.1.8 it's self, of course not because the enchancement from alpharev
[Desire General] richyb86:
Can you s-off via your device if your s-on and don't have access to a PC. Also I take it I need s-off to flash the new h boot
[Desire General] andQlimax:
No pc = no s-off possible

Sent from my HTC Desire
[Desire General] gurpreet3579:
Its very very easy takes no time to from step 1 to step 3
[Desire General] ieftm:
My testing shows no problems in restoring backups. Not old backups, not new backups from 2.5.1.8. 2.5.1.8 is needed for PVT4 users.

Regardless, I won't accept this a 'bug' unless some proper testing is done by the person who's reporting them.

Source shows no differences between the nandroid scripts.
[Desire General] ptulluri:
Insufficent Internal Memory Issue.

I was able to S-OFF successfully. I installed Bravo Stock 1.8 using the zip method by going into CWM a don't if this is what causing. by accident i formatted system,cache,data,etc.

Installed LeeDorid 2.3d i am now unable install any apps as the system storage has only 27MB left.

Can some please help.
[Desire General] TheGhost1233:
Your post doesn't make any sense (to me), the Bravo stock layout is the same as before you S-offed, so space wise nothing has changed. Also free space on system partition is useless and does not influence the ability to install apps, are you taking about internal memory?
[Desire General] ptulluri:
Also i noticed when i go into recovery I now see a message that say no image file or wrong image file!. what does this mean.
[Desire General] jordan.harris01:
Do you possibly have a PB99IMG.zip on the root of your SD card? That could be the cause of that if you do.
[Desire General] ptulluri:
insufficient internal storage

removed the file. did a complete wipe installed again. Still getting the same error :. I have attached the logcat as well.
[Desire General] MojUk:
Just been reading through trying to find the answer to my question but not found it yet...sure it's here somewhere! Can i use Alpharev with Virtual box on osx snowleopard? I tried but i get a kernel panic saying no init found??

Any ideas ?

Thanks guys
[Desire General] TheGhost1233:
Can't guarantee anything but I did it on snow leopard with vm ware. Just make sure the md5 matches and usb is forwarded after every reboot.
[Desire General] thierry_b:
random reboot sometimes

Hello,

I had random reboot before with my leedroid 2.3b, and I had one also 30 minutes ago with AuraxTSense, so I'm asking if the cause is the rom or not.

When he reboot, he's not hot, I see it reboot sometimes and the phone was at normal temperature (approximately with my hands lol).

So I'm temmong myself that's it could be due to:

- radio

- S-OFF

- one app

For radio, I try tu update from 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14 to 32.47.00.32U_5.10.05.23, and I'll see.

For apps, the problem is that I would have not to restore all my apps, to see if one app cause it.

What do you think of it?

Thanks :-)
[Desire General] dekimaks:
What is the best hboot+,I use sense rom,try with data++ and sense but not work for me?

how to choose ?
[Desire General] jjexpat00:
I'm using osx snow leopard and using alpharev 1.8. This is my second try, and i've waited about 45 min. the mac screen says everything is normal and is

"Waiting for flashing to complete..."

and my phone says

"Normal NAND detected. Non-PVT4"

It seems to be stuck for there some reason. Any ideas?:confused:

Thanks in advance.

My HBOOT is 0.83.0001
[Desire General] dekimaks:
last few days I try same like u,but no lucky.

And today i solve that frozen

screen:

flash CM7 Rom and run AlphaRev 1.8

It work!!!
[Desire General] jjexpat00:
thank you so much!!!

It worked first try!:D
[Desire General] shakaw:
My phone randomly locks up when I have S-OFF installed.

The lockups actually started happening a while ago, and kept happening with whatever ROM/Radio combination I installed on the phone. In order to rule out HW problems I decided to revert to stock using an RUU...

At that point I discovered that my phone would no longer flash RUUs. The first RUU I ran updated the HBOOT (removing S-OFF) and then failed spectacularly on the next stage. Running the same RUU again resulted in impossible to downgrade error, and running a newer RUU resulted and signature errors. After much trial and error I was able to flash the latest (at the time) ROM by: First installing S-OFF to get around signature errors, then booting the phone into the oem mode via fastboot, manually flashing HBOOT I extracted from the latest RUU (this failed half way through the process on first attempt leaving the phone with corrupt HBOOT, but worked when I tried again), and finally using fastboot to flash the rom.zip extracted from RUU, and all was well...

On friday, I decided to install S-OFF again. 2 hours later i discovered that the phone locked up. I immediately installed a different ROM, but the problem persisted. I downloaded the latest RUU (which surprisingly actually worked), restored a backup, and the phone have been stable since.

I cant be 100% sure, but I dont think the phone crashed when I had the first version of S-OFF installed.

Anyone got any ideas about what might be causing this?
[Desire General] kherio:
reverse hboot

Hi,

I installed the hboot for the Oxygen gingerbread ROM.

Now I want to install the SenseHD rom and I cannot.

What i've done is to download the bravo_alphaspl-sense.img and to follow the instructions on alpharev.nl in fastboot mode to "restore" the old boot.

The result is that I can flash the new xxxxHD rom but it doesn't boot. What can I do for testing other roms?

Thx in advance
[Desire General] MrDevil:
Try the stock hboot.

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[Desire General] kherio:
Thanks for the replay.

And do you know a good howto to downgrade it? I have search for this in goolge and i get many sites to do it but i don't want to brick the phone and I want to do it well.

thx in advance ;)
[Desire General] MrDevil:
The stock hboot is available at the alpharev website along with instructions on flashing. Be sure you check the md5 sum before flashing.

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[Desire General] TheGhost1233:
How did you ever manage to flash oxygen hboot? Flashing stock hboot is the same procedure but now you use stock hboot.
[Desire General] hispeedworm:
is there anyway to change splash1 apart from fastboot or android flasher utility.... my adb has simply refused to detect my phone... i have reinstalled the usb drivers ... but it simply fails to detect my phone

i want to put up a custom splash1 or stock splash1 after S-off that is
[Desire General] TheGhost1233:
Maybe a pb99img method, but I don't think so. And you do know that fastboot and adb are different things? I'm not sure but i don't think adb will work in hboot so that's why it can't detect the phone. If, with fastboot instead of adb, it still fails you can always dualboot Linux or run it of a live cd to avoid problems with drivers.
[Desire General] hispeedworm:
well yea i knid of do know they are different things

but neither detect my phone attached to it... via commands

adb devices

fastboot devices

it doesnt display my device attacted to pc.

and adb neither shows up my device in hboot nor in running android....

dont know whats wrong with it... it was working few days ago but after S-off my phone is no longer recognized.... and i would like to try pb99.img method of anyone else confirms it... dont wanna brick my phone by flashing hboot with just a splash1 file :D
[Desire General] mlindert:
Just checking: Settings > Applications > Development > USB Debugging is ticked ?
[Desire General] hispeedworm:
Thank you for the reply I forgot to post it here .... the problem was stupid Windows .... had to restart it and than f8 and disable driver signature requirement .... after I did that everything worked like a charm :)
[Desire General] :
Hi,

I'm sorry for the newbie question, but this thread is really big and I did not read all the posts... I just wanted to understand better the hboot flash procedure... I'm running cyanogenmod 7 build #8 (which must be upgraded to >#18 from what I've understood) and I can do a nandroid backup from the ROM manager... then I should follow the fastboot procedure to flash hboot (I'll look around in the net to see how I should use it)... at the end, can I restore from the nandroid backup or do I need to re-install cyanogenmod, since the partition table changes with the alparev 1.8 hboot respect to my stock partition table? If I can't do a restore from the nandroid backup, is there a way to avoid going through the whole customizations/software installations?

EDIT: I've re-read the alpharev page and I've seen that the entire procedure can be automated by using the alpharev live CD... does it automatically change the partition table to the correct one for the installed MOD, i.e. does it understand that I have cyanogenmod and so it resizes partitions from 250/147/40 (system/data/cache) to 130/302/5? I'll really like to boost my data partition from 147 MB to 302 MB since there is very low free space on it..
[Desire General] andQlimax:
Read alpharev site:

"HTC implemented security on their newer generation phones. This flag, called @secuflag, controls whether your phone has

it's NAND or flash unlocked. Most noticeably, S-ON (security on) will read-lock your /system and /recovery partition, to name a few. Also, secuflag controls whether zip files being flashed through recovery or fastboot, are signed by HTC.

The now notorious S-OFF (security off) will disable this NAND security.

Since we are unable to access the Radio NVRAM itself (where secuflag is stored), we turned our attention to HBOOT.

AlphaRev has patched HBOOT images for several phones, whereas the HTC Desire (GSM) was our first victim."

u need to make s-off ur desire - > use the live cd

then

"If you are already S-OFF, you can get our newest patched HBOOTs from here. (without going through the entire procedure again).

Please read the entire table and pick the partition table with the correct sizes for your ROM. One easy way to switch partition tables, is to nandroid backup,

and verify that the sizes of your backup are indeed the ones listed in the table (or smaller), and restore after flashing hboot."

u can download ur hboot and flash it..again read alpharev to do that

Try to understand what are u doing, otherwise u will brick ur desire
[Desire General] :
Sorry, but I still do not understand the following:

1) ok, i need to S-Off my desire, so I use the liveCD --> does it automatically resize the partition table for cyanogenmod or should I do it later flashing the bravo_alphaspl-cm7.img?

2) my nandroid backup can be restored after the liveCD procedure or it won't work because of the partitions' size mismatch between the stock and the new partition table?

3) apart from the partition table resize (which is the most interesting thing for me), I do not understand the other PROs (because of my ignorance, not because I think alpharev work is not usefull): nandroid backups can be restored even if I don't have an S-OFF device?

4) If I remember well, when I used the unrevoked tool to root my phone, there was also a menu option regarding S-OFFing the device, is it the same as following the alpharev procedure?

Thank you for the answers..
[Desire General] andQlimax:
1) no..the live cd just make s-off, it mean now u have full root..later u have to flash bravo_alphaspl-cm7.img

2) it wont restore because the cache can mismatch the size of the new partition..just do this first: wipe the cache and the dalvik cache, then do the backup, then flash hboot table, then restore the nandroid

3) nandroid backup can be restored even if u don't have s-off..if u have root permissions, and of course a recovery, u can restore backups

4)no, the s-off option on unrevoked tool doesn't work with our gsm desire, only on some few phone i think
[Desire General] :
Many many thanks for your answers ;)

I've run df -h | grep mtd on my HTC desire and I've got the following output:

# df -h | grep mtd
/dev/block/mtdblock3 250.0M 114.4M 135.6M 46% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock5 147.6M 132.3M 15.3M 90% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock4 40.0M 1.3M 38.7M 3% /cache

so everything should fit in the new partition table configuration. BTW I can still wipe the caches, if it does not have any drawbacks..

Again, thank you for the answers..
[Desire General] buckshotjr:
SUCCESS!

Phone: HTC Desire GSM AMOLED

Bravo PVT3 Ship S-OFF

Prev. HBoot: 0.93.0001

New HBoot: 093.0001

Radio: 5.11.05.27

Quick question(s):

- Do I really need to update the partition table as Alpharev's site suggests?

(Scroll mid-way down to find the partition table and info)

http://alpharev.nl/

I'm running a stock one now (I guess, since I haven't changed anything through FastBoot).

Thanks a ton guys!
[Desire General] eden1988:
I did some search on this thread, but couldn't find what I want so decided to ask clarify this issue here.

I've gotten CID Incorrect Update Fail in my hboot after I S-OFF my desire with AlphaRev 1.8. (I've read up on it, something like goldcard etc)

Is there any solution that can be used to resolve this problem??
[Desire General] spitjo:
Just a question for the s-off experts...

My phone is fastweb IT branded.

I rooted it using unrevoked and i'm running a custom sensehd rom.

I red about goldcards, cid errors, misc..... but i didn't undertood.....

Must I take any specific care before using alpharev knowing that my phone is branded??

S-off scares me, after reading about cid errors scares even more....
[Desire General] hallydamaster:
The only prerequisite should be that you are rooted! If you acquired root, then S-OFF should be straightforward!

Hallydamaster
[Desire General] spitjo:
Yes, this is the theory... I know

But from what I read around the reality seems a little different.

Check, for example, the post just before mine...
[Desire General] mlindert:
On forums you read a lot more about problems that success. Many people did it without a problem whatsoever.

Before going S-Off I was reading this forum and got scared too. Have a look at this video so you know what to expect.

Two simple rules:

- only connect phone when program tells you

- let your phone connected until program tell's you it's finished. Your phone will reboot a couple of times DON'T TOUCH IT. Took me about 3 minutes.
[Desire General] jadephyre:
It's true that you hear more about the problems people are having than the success others had.

When I bought my Desire over a month ago, I already had quite a lot of experience in flashing ROMs under Windows Mobile and Android, but the Desire took that to a new Level due to all the security in it.

I went ahead and rooted the same day I bought it, and S-OFF'd a few weeks later (AlphaRev was not compatible at the time with my Desire due to it being a new revision), fully knowing that I was at risk of turning my phone into a €400 paperweight.

The Problem is that many people who are having success in going ahead with a certain procedure do NOT report back here about their experience with what they did.

I can see how that can make people uneasy about it.
[Desire General] spitjo:
I'm sure a lot of people s-offed successfully.

But the majority of phones is unbranded.

My concern is for my branded phone.

I understood how to do a goldcard, but since unrevoked is out i thought gc were history.

But reading here seems that branded phones are often ending up with problems after alpharev. Somthing like cid errors (don't know what they are btw...) usb brick or misc problems (i have a backup of my misc partition but i absolutely don't know what to do with it in case of problems. whitout s-off i can't flash it via fastboot so...).

The only thing i'm asking for is someone from alpharev team that can say one time for all that branded or unbranded phone are the same thing for this tool... (or the opposite...)
[Desire General] PureLoneWolf:
Hiya

Just a quick question..I am running CM7 nightly at the moment and am looking to S-OFF...does anyone know if this will work with this or if I need to flash a different ROM first?

Thanks
[Desire General] jadephyre:
As far as I know, it is ROM-independent.
[Desire General] PureLoneWolf:
I decided to go for it...all sorted in under 10 minutes - Nice :)
[Desire General] jadephyre:
glad to read it :)
[Desire General] hallydamaster:
You should really just go for it, I am very sure that the only people experiencing CID problems are the ones that use the PB99IMG method to reflash the SPL.

Also MISC/USB Bricks are not due to the S-OFF procedure but bad recovery flashing AFAIK.
[Desire General] jadephyre:
btw: My phone is a T-Mobile (Germany) branded phone (fortunately only the software, no markings on the phone though) and as far as I recall, I did not need a GoldCard to root or S-OFF my Desire.

Even though I flashed my first ROM from a GoldCard I had left when I unlocked my HTC Magic (just as a safeguard).
[Desire General] MojUk:
hmmm odd...s-off'd fine, did all the wipes after and flashed new custom hboot fine, installed clean rom with wipes...now the phone sits on the why so serious splash screen :s - usb brick?

EDIT

Weird, re-flashed hboot then wiped and installed rom afresh again and works..random
[Desire General] chribonn:
I had sucessfully AlphaReved my HTC Desire GSM a while back.

How do I determine which version I have?

I am running Leedroid; if there is an upgrade available would the Bravo Sense apply to my ROM?

Thanks.
[Desire General] TheGhost1233:
Boot in to hboot and see what it says at the top of the screen, I don't know if it also displays the version.

If you want to upgrade and use a normal leedroid rom (you haven't removed stuff from system yourself) than you need Bravo Stock 1.8, Bravo Sense will only fit if you slim the rom down yourself.
[Desire General] chribonn:
It doesn't seem to show the version although it says PVT3.

Thank you for the information.
[Desire General] MrDevil:
If you see alpharev in pink at the top, then you're good.
[Desire General] eranhor:
Hi guys,

Having a bit of a problem with the hboots.

I installed the hboot for oxygen a few days ago and all went fine.

I now wanted to change my ROM, so I went ahead to install a different hboot.

I tried both the sense hbooy and the stock 1.8, but nothing worked. I still see in the fastboot menu the title (in pink) Alpharev Oxygen.

Any ideas?

EDIT: Fixed. Installed using the PB99IMG technique. Worked like a charm.

Cheers,

Eran
[Desire General] gurpreet3579:
Use android flasher with android sdk adb commands must be working.

Then flash stock patrician Img file from alpha rev table.
[Desire General] andreigherghe:
If you can, do it!

You will have a lot of advantages :)
[Desire General] MrDevil:
No drawbacks here. Go ahead try it, u won't regret it.

Sent via homing pigeons
[Desire General] ahac85:
hi im thinking of going s-off, I want to know what partition table to use, I always use leedroid roms, can some one please let me know the pros and cons of the different partiton tables?