yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z General] lovelldr:
Only when bought through a htc assured partner. Some shops are not, so will not be given a 2 year warranty...
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
I find that hard to believe, where did you get this from?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
A lot of the big phone websites are assured or ultimate htc partners and will show a banner on their webpage to confirm this.

If this is the case then htc do give a 2 year warranty.
[G2 and Desire Z General] lovelldr:
I got it from DeviceWire when I asked them to price match another store...
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
Let me guess, was it "Well you have to pay the extra because we are a HTC partnered store so you are paying for the HTC warranty" or along those lines?

Have this feeling they were trying to get out off having to price match & looking for an excuse (even making one up) as to justify the extra cash.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
HTC really do offer extended warranty if you purchase direct from them or via an approved htc retailer.

I can't find any link to prove this but Shen who is a member of VillainRom beta tests for HTC and has a lot of contacts who say this is true.
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
No way !!! :p

I've got the same issue.

Normally they would deliver the DZ last wednesday (27/10), and now the delivery is next friday (05/11).

Okay, i was a bit mad of pdashop.be because they didn't let me know something, i had to find it out myself what was going on. I trust them, i pre-order, more important, i pre-pay...

But hey, take a deep breath and chill...

There are worst things in life...

And now, today, suddenly, my HTC Touch 3G stops working?

I can't use the screen anymore to typ something. Digitizer?

No more phone..... I can't insert my pin code.

Do those phones have a kind of link? Once you order a new one, they're mad or something?

HTC, deliver!!!

I don't care about exchange 2010 (if that's the case)! I don't even use the damn MS software. I find it very strange that a phone with linux on it takes so much care about MS. Shouldn't they support linux based software? :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
I thought they were going on about the Normal Warranty they offer! Ignore my post then, I was wrong! :o
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
Great. I pre-ordered off Mobile Phones Direct, and it doesn't look like they are a HTC partner.

GREAT. :eek::confused::):mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
You still have a normal 1 year warranty no matter where you order (at least).
[G2 and Desire Z General] jonhitch:
Anyone know if Superetrader are an assured partner?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Actually, if you go to the Desire Z page, along with their explaination as to why there are delays (the old Google Testing excuse) it states in bold "We are an HTC ultimate partner". So looks like you will get the 2 year warranty if you order from them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
Carphonewarehouse have delayed it "for next week delivery".

Why are people saying this is not HTC's fault when every supplier is delaying it?

It is no coincidence that every supplier is delaying it.

This surely has to be HTC's doing.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Plus 1000000

Its HTC's doing alright... They did the same with the original Desire;((( Im just waiting for there to be a viable alternitive to HTC to jump to another android brand... Maybe the samsung nexus two?

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
I'm just waiting for an Android Device that has a Hardware keyboard that is running Vanilla Android.

I love my G1 but it needs a newer version of Android on it ¬_¬
[G2 and Desire Z General] craigw2010:
ive just spoken to Mobile Phones Direct, who say they are an official partner, and they told me that the phone has been delayed again and will be dispatched in two weeks time! So 11-11 looks most likely! Ive distracted myself with a new gadget like some other guys here, just hope the novelty doesnt wear off until i get the phone!!

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
cm6 will be on it very soon, and if you want a stockish device, get the G2 mate, you can order that now! I would do the same, but my mobile insurance comes with my bank account.. and they need proof of purchase, and ebay reciept is not enough;(((

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
tmobile holland:

22 -> 26 nov

WTF IS THIS ****
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
I would but i cant afford to just buy a Phone out right, hence why i need to get either a new contract or as an upgrade (hoping for upgrade tbh!)
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
First unboxing and pre-review of the z in the uk;) They are here boys and girls;)))

11.11.10 = Suck my hairy bum;P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wCE9t3DVdY

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] t-mon:
sweeeet. The hinge looks pretty solid. Not as much drop as some of the G2s had that were posted on youtube (of course it's only one device, but still)
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Yep, it looks as if they have definitely tightened the hinge... Im glad for the delay now;)

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
Slashgear.com was first with something more.. thorough?

... but as I'm a new user, it does not seem like I am allowed to post the link :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
This makes it almost definite that we will have our phones next week;))

yayayayayya

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
I've really had enough of watching YouTube.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
can you prove this, did you see the timestamps... quick lets see who is first;P Yawn....

Its all about information on here mate, not who is first.. hahaha

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
there you go;P

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-desire-z-unboxing-video-demo-29111085/

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
I said more.. thorough.. 6+ minutes unboxing video wins? ;)

Thanks for posting the link for me, though!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Sigh. Notice this seems to be contradicting the YouTube unboxing video that was just posted.

Which likely means... varying levels of build quality in Desire Z just like in G2. :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
Oh jeeze...if I get one with loose hinges I will ****everyone at HTC, starting from the receptionist and all the way up to the chairman.

Mod edit: Mind your language
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
Just hoping ill get mine soon.. is this the first real user or exclusive shop or webshop ?
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
no probs dude;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
It's dudette, if anything ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Haha,

Yeah i was thinking that, just looked at your username;P

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
the only problem i have with the youtube vid is he holds the Z by the bottom (the bit with the battery inside) & not the top

hopefully i'm just being over paranoid, but i'd like to see him holding that thing by the top to see how much it drops.....
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
Meh cant check the slash video now.. stupid tattoo :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
On one of G2 reviews I've read, that they had web page open with embedded youtube video playing (on that webpage, not standalone youtube app) and it was still smooth to zoom in/out on that web page while it was still playing. How cool is that?
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
What did you get?

My Slingbox Pro died few months ago so I got Monsoon Vulkano (Slingbox alternative) and I'm trying Android client now. It's pretty awesome!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Stellios:
Play.com now are saying the 5th November rather than the first. Ive dropped them an email asking if they can shed any light on the cause of the delays. This might sound daft, but I go on holiday on the 15th November, does anyone have any reasonable ideas whether ill actually have the thing before I go away.
[G2 and Desire Z General] keemyb:
Nobody but HTC knows the date to be fair, we can only ever give you IDEAS, not facts.

HTC are starting to get on my nerves, just less than a month until my PAC runs out, I might have to settle for a D HD (not a bad phone, but the Z is the only real successor to the G1).
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
I know this might sound dumb but...I've seen tons if vids and pics, and I've never seen the phone turn in landscape mode without opening the hinge. I guess that's just a disabled system setting right?
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Guys, in both unboxing video they have OEM box (not for resale) as in solopalmari video posted 2 weeks ago on YT :/
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
Copy that...sigh.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dazmck10:
Yea thats what I was thinking. :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
The PRE-RELEASE early reviews are nearly always done on OEM phones. If i dont have this phone by friday next week I will be cancelling my order and buying the new Nexus beast from samsung;P

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Today I feel this way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d09yWG2fSBg&feature=sub

:D
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Might also cancell my order. HTC and their partners have take us for a ride. They have been very disrespective and lying to us about dates. They have raised our hopes for absolutely no advantage to us.
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
So what about this one: http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-desire-z-en.shtml

Published — 18 September 2010 :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Amen! (even if I'm atheist :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
I cant see a retail box on here?

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dazmck10:
lolol awsome.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ionut.micu:
I'm pretty sure that the pictures were taken at the press conference in London.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Yep, i think your right.

At the first event;)

We was at the second event, the party in central london, it was a good evening;)))

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
expansys is changing deliveries dates all the time, 29th, in 8 days, for order only ... pain in the back.

if by 10th of Nov the DZ isn't in my hand my pre-order will be cancelled and probably I will be buying BB 9700 as hardware keyboard is essential.

HTC playing cat and mouse with their customers! Shocking in the XXI century ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
AMEN again (from another atheist LOL :p)

and YUP... for a sec I thought he was talkin' 'bout religions, but nah he was referring to HTC's delay LOL :D :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
I think if it isnt in our hands by next friday, we as a community should cancel our orders and all buy something "not HTC"

its a joke what they are doing!

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] stian230:
Agree with you. This is completely idiotic. HTC has postponed it to long now. ... maybe I'll order a G2 on ebay.

On ludostore.no they have told me about 11 November :confused: two more weeks.:(
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
I'll bet they don't have any idea about release date and 11.11 is just a another guessing...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Just spoke to Carphone Warehouse, as I remember someone on here claiming their local store had them in stock last week, but were unable to sell them until the 29th. Anyway, they told me they still havn't received shipments and literally couldn't give me an estimate on when they expected to be.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Amazon :(

And i preordered on 24th September... Seriously considering canceling the whole thing, but then i realize that others who deliver to my country (or shops in my country) will not have it sooner either.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
AND so the uninteresting drama by HTC continues.
[G2 and Desire Z General] camro:
well, i also waiting for HTC desire Z ... maybe too long ...

for me is also important - few things which are not so perfect on HTC Desire Z:

fact 1 - display

HTC will use a LCD display, because noone can deliver them the amoled, because samsung need the production for themselve .also a 4" would be better, but 3,7" - hmm - i can live with that ..

fact2 is, that the keyboard doesn't have cursor keys or direct digits keys ..

(for gamers ...)

fact3: for business user, the android 2.2 is a little bit crappy (ex: attendees, invite appointments, standard mailer hat very comfortable, not fully AS 12.x, etc..)

so, maybe i must think about to wait for a SAMSUNG Galaxy S Pro (with slider) - like Samsung Epic 4G

i'm sure, that such device will be soon avaible to europe this will also be soon availible. And the speed can'T compare from android 2.1 to 2.2, and i'm sure if android 2.2 the samsung will be much more faster ..

if the delivery would not take so much time and all the time delayed, i would also have a HTC desire Z, no i begin to think about, if it is worth to buy the HTC ASAP ...

we will see ...
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
As I said before - none of HTC reseller in Poland has clue about release date. They all say same things - we will have it on XX.11 (xx - here U can put any number between 02 and 31). But if U will be unyielding they all say the same - we don't have any idea about release date cuz HTC says nothing. Same thing happend when I call to HTC Poland - even they do not know about ETA!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
This was my first choice but there is no single bit of information about release in Europe so Epic 4G was inclusive for US market I'm afraid... :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
I'm not worried about waiting too long for Desire Z. Why are you all so panicked?

The estimated dates are only just that - an estimation. Most stores will put them faaar ahead just because it looks bad if they change their dates often (hello, expansys, btw), but they hope to get it sooner rather than later. :D

And, its also useful to compare the release of the HTC Desire HD, which had nov 15th as an estimated date (atleast where I live). It arrived in stores here yesterday, and is now shipping all over the country to those who preordered the phone. We all know how HTC acts when they release a phone, suddenly its delayed and pooof there it is. :rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Cuz we all are geeks! We want it badly right now or we help China to invade Taiwan!!! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
HTC Desire HD had October 6th as estimated date. Started selling 2 weeks later. HTC Desire Z had October 11th as estimated date. Still not selling, and current dates say 8th November.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
Hahaha, well.. thats cool too, I guess :D But will it help?? :p

Not here, it didn't. HTC Desire HD was estimated, along with Desire Z, to october 29th, then the HD was pushed back to nov 15th, and, as i said, it arrived yesterday. I don't think it will be nov 20th before I get my phone (which is my estimated date right now), as I'm pretty sure the stores are putting the dates far ahead to not ruin their own reputation because HTC is messy with their releases (if they say nov 20th and ship long before that, who gets credit for it? the store, not HTC :rolleyes: )
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEFYmUUACWY

Another OEM box, but still, with several of these video's popping up, it must still be a good sign, no?
[G2 and Desire Z General] simbloke:
I filled in the form on the HTC web site and told them to get a grip, I know it won't help :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
I think its a good sign! :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] invasion13:
Hi, i have just called my french supplier "rue du commerce", for them they still have 2th

november as date of receipt in their warehouse(1st november bank holiday in france)

ps: It's the AZERTY model

We must keep in mind that if the availibility dates are changing, it is perhaps because for new buyers the first batches the shops will receive are already pre-ordered

and so it's later and later for newcomers
[G2 and Desire Z General] Stellios:
It's possible, but I just got pushed back till the 5th and I preordered mine the day after they were announced on the keynote.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Try to explain my order then. Ordered 24th September, Amazon UK pushed my order to 8th November now. So there is unfortunately no such thing as "for new buyers" and "first batches". The 8th November now are the "first batches". If they don't push it more to the future :(.
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
I sent HTC this question yesterday:

'I AM ASKING ABOUT THE MUCH EXPECTED DESIRE Z PHONE. YOU SAID YOU WERE RELEASING THE PHONE IN OCTOBER. DO YOU REALISE THAT TODAY IS THE LAST BUSINESS DAY OF OCTOBER 2010? ARE YOU DISPATCHING OR HAVE YOU DISPATCHED THE DEVICE TO YOUR DISTRIBUTORS? EAGER TO KNOW,

HTC MOBILE PHONES USER.'

HTC replied this afternoon saying:

'Dear “my name”,

Thank you for contacting HTC

I’m afraid it is up to the retailer on what stock they wish to order from us. We would not be able to disclose sensitive information on what/how many products a client of ours could potentially purchase off of us.

I’m sorry but this information is sensitive, you will need to talk to the retailer about this because I cannot give out that information.

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number .....

Sincerely,

Andrew

HTC.'

Are we to read between the lines, and say the stores or dealers have the phone already, but HTC won't commit to say so, and the dealers are ironning something out prior to delivering them to us?
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Just when I navigated from here, I got the following response to HTC in reply to my email to them that they had not answered my question:

'Dear "my name",

Thank you for contacing HTC

It was prerealsed for october then it got put back, we don't have a release date as yet. I would advise to keep an eye on our website at www.htc.com for any update's on the release of the phone.

sorry for any inconveniences caused

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number .....

Sincerely,

Andrew

HTC.'
[G2 and Desire Z General] simbloke:
Their reply to me:

Please note that the htc desire is already for sale at expansys.com (bah not allowed to post URL...)

Aswell this product is advertised with carphone warehouse with vodafone (a URL to CPW I must not mention).

If you would like to would like to buy this product with any other network you will need to do your own research and enquiry with the network that you would like to buy the product with.

I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.

Funny they should tell me where the phone is for sale when I quite clearly said I had already ordered one. Then they point to eXpansys with their wandering ETA.

Is HTC UK just marketing operation with clueless marketing types that don't speak the same English as the rest of us?

Sigh
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
expansys Germany has on their web page:

'Due Thursday 11th November' and 'HTC Desire Z

QWERTY Price: € 534.99 In Stock Now.'

Switzerland has:

'HTC Desire Z QWERTYPrice: CHF609.99In Stock Now.'

Anything in this?
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
As i said before - don't rely on Expansys as a source of information in any form.

Just a example :

http://www.expansys.sk/htc-desire-z-eu-qwerty-203897/

"Availability: Expected release date 29 X 10" says it all.

Edit: And i'm officially giving up, i will tomorow go to the local Orange shop and buy a sim-free, unlocked HTC Desire HD for a full price (530€). Then i will cancel my Amazon UK order, so someone who has a preorder @ Amazon UK celebrate, you will get 1 spot higher if you preordered the phone after 25th September.
[G2 and Desire Z General] t-mon:
I'm seriously thinking about doing the same, although I'd rather have a hardware keyboard. They have the HD on stock at Saturn for 520€. It is tempting.

It's still "Expected delivery date 29.10." for the QWERTY for me on expansys Germany. I wouldn't rely on expansys anymore ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
You my friend have a point.

I now give up.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
Mark Moons on twitter...

(Translated with google translate :rolleyes:)

Which means end of next week in NL? Then the rest of Europe should follow, no? :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
I will give it until Wed in the UK, if its not dropped by then, its cancel order time, and purchase the new beast samsung is offering on the 8th of november..

HTC YOU ARE OFFICIALLY A JOKE!!!!!!!!

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
And U still believe anybody about release date? :confused:
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
I guess I am the only optimist around here.. :p IMO, there is no alternative if you want a phone like the Desire Z. (I'm sorry, but Samsung, Nokia and the likes just doesn't cut it). Its still technically october, and as such they would have to be quiet for another week until I think I have any right to be annoyed or confused. Which means; I don't mind cutting HTC some slack for a little while longer :D

Edit: And if you REALLY want the Desire Z, you'll be able to wait too :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
I've checked the Desire HD too,

but no thanks,

I currently have an X10 and I miss the keyboard so badly,

typing speed is not even comparable

No, I won't fall to the non-qwerty options, not again.

I'll patiently wait for the Z, and the release is imminent, 2 to 10 days at most

.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Just thinking about that link I posted to another unboxing of an OEM version of the phone. I looked through that same persons other videos and they had an OEM unboxing of the Desire HD on October 19th and then an unboxing of the retail version on the 28th. So 9 days. I know anything can happen with each individual phone, but if that's something to work off, 9 days from now would be the 8th. I'm getting increasingly frustrated waiting for this phone, but I think if it really did come before the 11th, I think I can live with that. After a day or two with the phone, I'm sure we'll all forget about all the pain we had in waiting for it anyway.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrvanx:
Finally some sanity :)

The Z will be out when it is out, simple as that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
as long as the phone is "beta proof", do not want to receive a faulty device!

been playing around with BB9700 2night at MediaMarkt ... not but at all I have to admit but ...there is always a but.

Been waiting for 34 days so I can wait for another 10 (11th is the Polish Independents Day - Bank Holiday as well as the 1st Nov in Poland).

btw, we should get some freebies from sellers ex. 8gb microSD card ;-)

good night folks
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Here's an idea lets use social media and kick HTC ass on facebook!!!

http://www.facebook.com/HTC?v=wall

LOTS of same question about DZ release date please!
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I'm still waiting.

Too bad the keyboard is not as good as on Touch Pro2. No separate numbers row and no arrows, these are so useful when writing longer text and moving between rows/words, or when typing in IP address numbers. Why there always has to be some downside.
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
It's not so simple for me I'm afraid. I already give up with waiting and canceled my order on expansys but if U read some post here U see how many times HTC & major reseller just lied to us about release date. This was really piss me off!!! :mad: If expansys or HTC simply said - we don't have any idea about release date it can be even mid or end of November - I'm ok with that. But week after week we all here heard lots of bull**** and this is definitly not ok.
[G2 and Desire Z General] t-mon:
yup, it's not the delays I'm having a problem with. I'm all for having a better product in the end, should the delays be caused by product improvement. What I'm having huge problems with is HTC's customer relations. That's just poor communication.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dazmck10:
Is there any way to play a flash game on a website that requires you to use and hold down arrow keys for movement? Optical mouse pad wouldn't really work.