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[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
I've only seen 2 people out of the hundreds who already have their G2 get above 7Mb download speeds. Heck, most people don't even get above 4Mb download! I've seen so many people with 0.5Mb download speeds even when their in an HSPA+ supported area like NYC or Los Angeles.

I haven't gotten my G2 yet so I can't test it, but what I've seen so far has been pathetic. I've seen a youtube video where a G1 beats a G2 in a Speedtest and another where the Evo gets above 5Mb download but the G2 gets 0.5Mb download while in an HSPA+ area. Even the Droid 2 on 3G got higher than the G2.

This is T-Mobiles main selling point but only like 2% of people are actually getting these high speeds. WTF GIVES? :mad:

If you are getting these high speeds, are they consistent? Or do you always fluctuate from high-low speeds?

I'm getting a little skeptical now. I'm not worried about the internal memory but the loose hinge and slow download speeds would kill me. Again, this is T-Mobiles main selling point for the G2 but no one is getting these speeds. I can't imagine what people will say when more blog sites/reviews get there hands on this phone. T-Mobile would look silly claiming 4G speeds while my friends Evo gets 10Mb download on 4G.
[G2 and Desire Z General] emwonktnoduoY:
I'm hoping Oct 5th or 6th the 7Mb is a thing of reality in all supported areas.
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijizai:
I get about 400 kbps down and 300 kbps up... SLOW.
[G2 and Desire Z General] PersianBoi:
I just got my G2 yesterday, i used the speedtest app and my download speed was a little under 6.1mbps with upload speed of about 0.7mbps. I live bout 20 min off of seattle
[G2 and Desire Z General] ThaGeNeCySt:
I'm on Long Island... according to their press release.. I should have H+ in my area.. but when I check speedtest.net I get 1 mb down and up
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
Is that consistent?

It's weird how 1 or 2 people get high speeds and everyone else gets like 0.5Mb download even in HSPA+ areas.
[G2 and Desire Z General] JRG1392:
I tested it a couple times earlier today and they were both 6. something down...Up usually tends to be around .5 for me...I'm pretty happy with it overall
[G2 and Desire Z General] cdreamworld:
I live in Philadelphia and I only get about 1.5 to 2.0 mb speeds. mobile network type says HSDPA
[G2 and Desire Z General] MasterOMayhem:
best i got was 7934 kbps down 1334 kbps up philly suburbs
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lockeskidney:
there are some serious problems going around
[G2 and Desire Z General] -RotorDemon-:
At work.. 2 bars of "H" I did the speedtest app and got 8.4mbit down and 1.2up.

F*cking happy G2 owner here.
[G2 and Desire Z General] veritas17:
I'm getting 8.4mps or in real world since no one uses friggin bits in the US, 1.1~1.2 megabytes per second download and 122k upload, ppfft.

Download speeds are crazy though.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Bavilo:
Guys, this is certainly not a fault on HTCs side. Blame your providers for not giving you the speeds that you want :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Droidz:
I get about 7mbps in upstate NY Rockland county
[G2 and Desire Z General] MrOtsKrad:
The H is a lie.
[G2 and Desire Z General] raydm:
Thats how Tmobile works I had enough of them in chicago area so I switch. Its depend on the tower load or something. Don't expect great speed all the time
[G2 and Desire Z General] WarBird87:
I'm only getting 3.5 down and 2.0 up.... some bs
[G2 and Desire Z General] kalipedia:
Oops! Didn't mean to post that with no words! I wanted to say that we've got a beautiful clear sky in NYC finally (see pic), but I'm still getting painfully slow speeds - like 1600kbps down - so it wasn't just the weather - something's clearly wrong!
[G2 and Desire Z General] heygrl:
It has nothing to do with that.

Just becausr your city HAS HSPA+ doesnt mean its availible at all 3G towers yet. That and if you didnt peak at 6mbps regularly on a fast 7.2 device you would NOT see an increase with the G2.

i dont kno about urs but my Vibrant rocks
[G2 and Desire Z General] te5ter:
Here's my test from Clearwater, Fl.
[G2 and Desire Z General] oophlamer:
Here's mine on T-Mo, south of Los Angeles...
[G2 and Desire Z General] ScooterG:
I routinely get 4-5 mb... Usually in the lower 4's OC/LA area
[G2 and Desire Z General] tehseano:
I've gotten like 7.5Mbps when I'm at school (Troy, MI), but averages between 5 and 7Mbps.
[G2 and Desire Z General] PatrickHuey:
Just got between 5-6 down and about 1.3 up in round rock tx,.which is just above Austin.
[G2 and Desire Z General] C.Flat:
I just got 7.45 up and 1.54 down here on my Desire Z in Ottawa

It's never consistent though. Usually it's around 3
[G2 and Desire Z General] vtek9:
It varies for me from 1 in the bay area to 6 to the north bay. It is still faster than what I had on my nexus one by my apt which was only 1. I'm at 3-4 consistently at home now with my G2.
[G2 and Desire Z General] joemm:
Heres my speed in Huntington Beach Ca.,
[G2 and Desire Z General] pierrekid:
I usually average around 13 mbps 1.1mbps
[G2 and Desire Z General] pierrekid:
In miami btw
[G2 and Desire Z General] ReganH22:
I'm on the north side of Chicago, and according to T-Mobile reps I have talked to on the phone, I should have excellent coverage. I'm so frustrated with the slow data speeds and dropped calls that I am going to have to cancel my T-Mobile account. The sad part is I love the customer service and I have been happy with T-Mobile. I really don't want to leave, but I depend on my phone heavily as a member of a flight crew. Last night I was on call for my job and I looked over at my phone and no signal. I had to put my sim card in my HD2 just to have a reliable signal for the night. I love my G2, but the slow data speeds and poor reception is killing me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] C.Flat:
I just got 9.16 down in ottawa
[G2 and Desire Z General] witeboy07:
I get great signal in chicago,I live close to the northside,be getting up to 9mbps and full signal bars.
[G2 and Desire Z General] swissman:
Poor Switzerland

With Swisscom... full signal:
[G2 and Desire Z General] mastajest:
I'm Miami,FL and don't get anywhere around those speeds. What's your setup? Did you do any mods?
[G2 and Desire Z General] klmsu19:
Same here, about 1.5 down 500-600k up
[G2 and Desire Z General] sheek360:
No way. I live near the Miami international airport. And I run speedtest everywhere I go and never got better than 9mb
[G2 and Desire Z General] pierrekid:
Exactly you live next to the airport, speeds are pretty bad there compared to where I'm located. I live at the end of pinescrest around dadeland mall area. There are tmobile towers everywhere around here since the retails stores are here. Also because the university of miami main campus is only 2 mile away ( I'm a med student at UM) the speeds are always really good because tmo has to compete with the other carriers for the students. So I guess they focus a lot more of the hspa+ speeds in our area. Also no mods just straight up stock g2 with a speedtest run. I downloaded inception this morning again in 19 minutes flat. Pretty good for a 2 and a half hour movie ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] sheek360:
Damn. Lucky you!
[G2 and Desire Z General] mastajest:
I work in Pinecrest, right by Dadeland mall, and even thought I get good H reception, I've haven't gotten those speeds. Just flashed the latest radio out there. Hopefully that gets me better speeds.
[G2 and Desire Z General] pierrekid:
Yea you should be getting the same speeds as me, where exactly are you pincrest? If you are around the the cvs right in across us-1 from dadeland mall the you should be getting around 13 average. Remember there are two retails tmobile stores, one directly inside dadeland as a kiosk and the one across from dadeland in the coldstone/gamestop plaza. Both of these stores have towers near them hence why I have such great speeds
[G2 and Desire Z General] blakedunc235:
A couple tests I ran in West Point, NY
[G2 and Desire Z General] T.C.P:
wow i wish i had that i barely get 1mb down
[G2 and Desire Z General] markatl84:
I have the Nexus S (which is not "4g") and just got a G2 for my brother. I immediately ran speed tests to see what difference there was. In my area (north Atlanta) I get speeds ranging from 1-6.5 mbps down and 0.5 to 2 mbps up. High speeds above 5 are not uncommon.

So how did the G2 do? Well, the speeds were almost identical. It DID get slightly higher speeds

at times, but generally in the range of 0-10% faster. For example:

Nexus S: 6220 kbps down 1810 kbps up

G2: 6844 kbps down 1704 kbps up

I tested them in the exact same locations one after the other. The speed test above typifies the results I got. In areas where I got lower speeds, like 1-3 mbps, there was often no difference or the Nexus even scored higher.
[G2 and Desire Z General] MacaronyMax:
On my main internet at home I only get 600kb/s :(

:D
[G2 and Desire Z General] MacaronyMax:
You won't have been in an HSPA+ area then :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] sheek360:
Ok, so I am omw back home. I was at the UM campus. All over it! I didn't notice any cell towers, but I noticed an ass load of cell arrays.

Anyways, my g2 (latest radio, rooted), my sons nexus, my daughters defy, my wifes stock radio g2 and my sisters mytouch4g was in my pockets.

All the nexus and defy consistently hovered around 4mb-5mb download speeds.

The g2's and mytouch4g were hitting 5mb- damn near 6mb per second.

In one occasion my rooted g2 (with new radio) actually almost hit 8mb.

But not once did I see the speeds that was previously mentioned.

I went to that tmobile store on us1 near dadeland and data on all the phones were 3-5mb.

At the dadeland store all the phones were at 2- almost 3 mb

The g2's and mytouch hit 4mb a few times.

Went to brandsmart usa and met my friend willy, who has a nexus s

We repeated the tests at dadeland and UM

The hspa+ phones occasionally edged out the other non hspa+ phones, but not by much.

One thing I noticed was the latency @ um. It was 90-120 about 80% of the time, which is preety decent...

Saw a guard at um with an iphone4. I asked em to download the speedtest app and run it.

On att wireless his iphone 4 consistently hit 180-300ms with 4.2-4.6mb download and 800kb upload.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mastajest:
I've yet to try it around that area since I'm still on vacation, but those really high speeds seem a little uncertain. Hope the new radio makes a difference. It's had a couple of days to settle, so I should be seeing some difference now.
[G2 and Desire Z General] androidEyez:
Wish I had those speeds that's insane but tmobile is currently working on a huge expansion of 4g coverage I'm right outside Philly and get an average of 4Mbps at the highest 5Mbps but that's on straight 3G that's impressive to me once 4G hit my area in Feb. I'm hoping for 7 or higher on average. But be glad we don't pay extra for it like sprint does I know people who pay for 4G and its not even available here yet that's CRAZY BE PATIENT WE WILL ALL HAVE IT SOON ENOUGH well most of us anyway.
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
11.3 mbps down 1.69 down on mt4g. Lol dallas tx.
[G2 and Desire Z General] tvdang7:
get from 2.5 -3.5 down and maybe 1.5mbp up in houston
[G2 and Desire Z General] pierrekid:
Hmmm well if you went to UM around stanford circle then that should not have happened. What part of campus were you at? And where did you meet the guard lol ill run the same test with him if I cam find him. At dadeland if you are inside the mall you won't get as good reception but you should get decent around 9-10 mbps. Once you step outside though and go down 88th you should get the sa?e exact speeds. Btw brandsmart is directly across the street you should have gone around the entire dadeland area which consists of dadeland station, the colonades areas and the beginning part of pinecrest, not just across the street. Besides that you should get the same speeds I get where I live which is around 12-13mbps. If your not getting it something is probably wrong with the radio on your phone.
[G2 and Desire Z General] JanetPanic:
Ok I have to ask... On your way home you happen to have 4 different people's phones plus your own in your pockets? They did not need their phones anymore and you did not want to miss an important call? What were you wearing anyway? Cargo pants?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Android1126:
I haven't read through this whole thread but....

T-Mobile is still rolling this out. Have some patience. I get 8 Mb/s down (a little more at times) consistently in the "technology corridor" outside of DC.

I get 5-6 down in NYC when I'm connected to a good tower.

Sometimes I get 1Mb/s or less down.

It just depends on the tower. Have some patience, they're working on it. I get insanely fast speeds most of the time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Droidz:
I'm seeing much higher speeds on my G2 than anyone with a vibrant here in upstate NY.
[G2 and Desire Z General] recharged95:
795kbps down, 805kbps up. Pretty much the same between speedtest and the FCC apps. In the Los Angeles area, near Glendale.

Funny, but my uploads are always higher. And yesterday, I was getting 190kbps down, 700 up. Looks like tmo is still getting stuff configured in the LA. Just wait until the official lanuch before making any conclusions.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Code3VW:
I had H and full bars today. Did 2 speed tests both resulted in 5.8mbps down and .5 mbps up using "Speed Test."
[G2 and Desire Z General] HamNCheese:
My personal best: 7223 down, 1560 up in Hollywood FL (between Miami and Fort Lauderdale, both of which supposedly have + presence) Other test I usually see between 3000 and 6000 down from random locations, various signal strengths, etc.

Before the backhaul upgrades in my area (about a month or two ago) I saw 500-700 down max. My N1 never gets more than about 3000 down, so I suspect + is in effect, at least some of the time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] aFo3262:
Hope this is a network issue that gets resolved in time for launch. It's not Oct 6th yet
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lockeskidney:
thanks for this, i was wondering about the Miami/ft lauderdale area
[G2 and Desire Z General] mikeybot:
It's definitely not being near the tower. Driving around this afternoon I was randomly running speed test and finally got a good speed(right by a tmo store nonetheless).
[G2 and Desire Z General] dibdubious:
When I go the phone on Thursday speeds from my apartment in NYC were around 300-500 down/700-900 up. Ran tests again when I got to work Friday morning. I saw speeds of around 4000 down/1200 up. Later in the afternoon that same day I saw speeds of around 1000-1200 down/900-1300 up.

Just ran test again from my apartment and got the following

Test 1: 1760 down/1325 up

Test 2: 2795 down/1362 up

Test 3: 3091 down/1346 up

Test 4: 1730 down/1346 up

Test 5: 1405 down/1338 up
[G2 and Desire Z General] CompConfig:
I an in NYC on a Vibrant and I get 4.5 to 5.5 down and 1.3 up
[G2 and Desire Z General] zapote21:
I hover around 6500 - 7500 in Tampa...

Not too bad... My Vibrant only does around 3000 - 3500
[G2 and Desire Z General] CharlieAngel:
West Hollywood, CA 161.2kb/s down, about 350kb/s down in Koreatown.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xencor:
im consistently getting 6-7 mbps in the suburbs of dallas. ive gotten up to 9 mbps in the past few days. lowest ive seen with the "H" signal is about 3.5 mbps.
[G2 and Desire Z General] matthenry87:
I get anywhere between 1 and 9mbps In the south metro denver. Hspa+ hasn't even been officially launched here yet.
[G2 and Desire Z General] v8pwrdz28:
Here in MB SC the best I got on my G2 using the speed test app is 1033 down and 1333 up. I popped my sim back in my nexus and tested it and got 1042 down and 1320 up. I'm just hoping the HSPA+ stuff isn't ready here.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kludgineer:
Usually getting between 4 and 6.5Mbps. I have had outliers under 3 and as high as 7.5Mbps. Uploads typically run between 1.4 and 1.7Mbps and pings are between 60 and 90. I am in Seattle.
[G2 and Desire Z General] PolishDude:
3.6 down 1 up in tampa
[G2 and Desire Z General] sino8r:
Although my city on has like 30% HSPA+, MOST TOWERS are still hspa/umts... I did get over 9 Mbps in some areas on the G2 where I got around 5-6 before on my MTS. So yes it works fine. You guys are nuts... they aren't finished just merely starting the roll outs. Plus they will continue to update the towers so calm down guys.
[G2 and Desire Z General] recharged95:
Thu: 168 down/700 up.

Sat: 800 down/800 up.

These are in the same location(tower) in Burbank CA. Much better than the G1, but nowhere near hspa+ speeds. But it looks like tmo is still tuning here as the speeds are changing daily. I am still using my older G1 sim card.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
In my house my phone can only connect to edge. I find that odd because my Vibrant was almost always on 3G in my apartment. I will definitely test my speeds when I get a decent connection.
[G2 and Desire Z General] heygrl:
The Vibrant has great reception, regardless of what anyone says -- the original JFD firmware has a problem with the bar readout. On JI2 and higher you get tons of bars, accurate bars. I was just out on the Interstate and the Vibrant held on to a signal for longer than my other devices.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
Yeah I've never had a problem with the Vibrant's reception. Never had a dropped call or was without signal for too long. I haven't traveled anywhere far with my G2 yet but in my house it gets worse signal than my Vibrant.
[G2 and Desire Z General] SeEsAw12:
I get around 5Mbps on my Nexus One.

Maybe they're waiting for the official launch date to unleash full speed?! Iunno.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jtc442:
Just got my g2 at radio shack this morn. Hit 8 mbs down and 1.7 up earlier. I had to have been close to a tower, but blazing fast. I love it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] burton14e7:
I've only gotten 4g speeds once yet and it was in my neighbors house next door. I get crap reception in my house but I believe it's due to my solar barrier in the attic. I got 4.4 down 764 up. All other times i range from 317 kbs - 1.1 mbs down and 200-300 kbs up.

My verizon fios 25 mb/s down 15 mb/s up fiber line grants me a 2.8 down and 2.4 up over wifi. So it was pretty cool to get something better to my phone, down speed at least, thats almost half the price of the fios....
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
I just did a speedtest and I had full bars on an H connection. The highest I got was about 3.2 down and 1.2 up. I'm surprised that the south bay area in cali doesn't have better speeds yet. Hopefully T-Mobile can improve the connection here.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jtc442:
I've got the 35/35 fios and over wifi with the g2 I hit 15 mbs down and 7 up. So far I'm happy with it. And loving the hspa speeds too as I mentioned earlier.
[G2 and Desire Z General] JoshHart:
Can't remember if I posted on this one but I'm getting between 5mb and 9 mb down and 1-2 up, pretty happy :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] osho741:
My city is also showing that it is suppose to be live with hspa+ and the best i got was about 4.8 mbps dl and .5 upload here in milwaukee. Seeing that a number of people are reporting this im begining to think they have not really turned on the switch is most areas yet as the only phone that can get the benefits from it isnt officially out until next week. So I guess ill wait til then. But its crappy of t mobile to advertise something as being live when it obviously isnt. i tried calling tech support and the guy told me that hspa+ wont but turned on in any cities til the phone is released. but some people are showing hspa+ speeds so i think he was just blowing smoke up my ass so who knows.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dale_cooper:
I think alot of people really don't understand hspa+ and tmobile's network.

If you're hitting above 2000 kbps, your area DOES HAVE HSPA+ active. Regular tmobile 3g is like 1000 MAX. If you're hitting 4000 or more, you're definitely hitting tmobile's HSPA+ network.

A phone like the nexus one has the capability of hitting 7200 kbps max. If you hit 6000 on your nexus one would you think you have an HSPA+ phone? lol no... but you're tapping into the high speed network. HSPA+ capable phone just has the capability of hitting OVER that, like into the 20000 kbps... now are you gonna see that right now? Heck no, Tmobile's markets with hspa don't have the infrastructure for those speeds currently. Now, why are g2's hitting higher than their non-hspa brothers like hte my touch or nexus (example 8000 vs 3000 kbps down), probably because the g2's radio is obviously optimized for the network. I wish I had my hands on a g2 to see if I hit higher than 3000 here in columbus, OH that I hit on my vibrant/nexus.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
Your wrong in a lot of your points. 3G is not "like" 1000 Max. The G2 can tap into HSPA+ networks because of the CPU infrastructure. Hitting 4000 or more does not mean your getting HSPA+ speeds.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dale_cooper:
lol really?

1. How does the CPU infrastructure of the G2 allow it to access different network speeds? That logically doesn't make much sense, it would be the radio to me.

2. Go to a tmobile area that does not have HSPA+, you tell me what the max you're hitting is. When an area is deployed with HSPA+ active, any of the HSDPA (3g) capable tmobile phones are going to be TAPPING INTO THAT NETWORK. Hence why when hspa+ got switch on in my area I went from 800 kbps to 3000 kbps. So even though vibrants, nexus ones, etc are not HSPA+ capable, they're connecting to HSPA+ networks. THE difference is that when tmobile raises the peak speed to above 7000, the non hspa+ phones will never be able to achieve those speeds, whereas the G2 can. THe speed is dependent upon the tower you're connected to, distance, and the peak throughput level that tmobile has set on that tower. HSPA+ has the capability of hitting 21+ mbps, are you gonna see that right now? no....

Back to my point tho, if you're hitting over 2000, you're in an area that has an HSPA+ deployed network. IF you disagree with this, I don't know what to tell you. THere is no way you could hit those speeds in an area that doesn't have HSPA+ (example before the hspa+ rollout, you never hit close to those speeds)
[G2 and Desire Z General] jtc442:
I do agree with you here, 100%!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] co.ag.2005:
based on today's T-Mobile announcement, is anyone in Denver getting HSPA+ speeds? I'm on ATT and looking to possibly switch if it is live in Denver and getting good results.

from T-Mobile:

"With its latest expansion, T-Mobile’s HSPA+ footprint now includes Biloxi and Gulfport, Miss.; Denver, Colo.; Huntsville, Ala.; Knoxville, Tenn.; Myrtle Beach, S.C.; Norfolk, Va.; Omaha, Neb.; Phoenix and Tucson, Ariz.; Salt Lake City, Utah; San Francisco, San Jose, Oakland and Sacramento, Calif.; and West Palm Beach, Fla. T-Mobile expects to reach 100 major metropolitan areas and 200 million people in 2010."
[G2 and Desire Z General] Du22ty:
I'm definitely not seeing some of the speeds you guys are as my highest test so far was 3.25 down and 0.55 up. Noob question but if we're on a HSPA+ network what should we be seeing in the Mobile Network Type field in settings?
[G2 and Desire Z General] pseudoswede:
I spoke with a T-Mobile rep at their I-25/Colorado store. He said HSPA+ is rolled out in parts of Aurora right now, but city-wide coverage won't go live until November 22.
[G2 and Desire Z General] SuperFly03:
I will agree with you that it is the radio however I will disagree with you that 2Mbps means you have HSPA+. Seeing 3-4Mbps on HSPA (not HSPA+) is not unreasonable nor unheard of.
[G2 and Desire Z General] thefitzman:
Midtown manhattan:

5400kbps down

2000kbps up

10 miles away in East Rutherford NJ:

3200 kbps down

743 kbps up
[G2 and Desire Z General] Arcadia310:
Do a Google on the new features implemneted in Qualcomms new generation of MSM processors. One of the main features is HSPA+ connectivity.
[G2 and Desire Z General] co.ag.2005:
Thanks for the info!
[G2 and Desire Z General] gulo101:
wonder about Colorado Springs, we didn't get 3G until June 2009