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[Captivate Android Development] TheShamsMan:
Hey guys,

Newbie here. I'm located in Canada (Roger's Wireless) and the Captivate will be released in a week or so and that's when I'll be getting my phone. I had a few questions about it and was wondering if someone can PM me.

I believe the Captivate runs 2.1 out of box. I would like to update to it 2.2 as soon as I get home. I've done a bunch of reading, and it seems to be done more or less the same way. One thing I've noticed that is different:

Some people recommend to "Master Clear" (I'm not sure what exactly that means), then one-click from JH7 to JF6 (I'm assuming this is a downgrade in firmware? I'm not sure exactly what this means either or how it is done. Can someone walk me through it?). Once running JF6, one-click to 2.2 using below (which I found off a link posted around here). Is it recommended to run JF6 before updating to 2.2? This may be a coincidence, but it seems that those who didn't run JF6 before updating are experiencing slower performance with their phone? Could that be possible?

What you’ll need:

* .exe Odin Flasher file

* If you haven’t already configured your PC to connect with your Captivate:

o Samsung Drivers: HERE

o You may also need the Galaxy S drivers to get USB connectivity to work… 32-bit or 64-bit

* Android SDK (optional… for “adb”)

Process:

1. Download the Android 2.2 Froyo update from designgears (the exe Odin flasher)

2. Make sure your Captivate’s USB cable is plugged into the computer but not the phone.

3. Open the .exe file on your Windows PC

4. Put your phone into download mode by turning it off, holding down the volume keys and plugging the phone into your computer with the MicroUSB cord

5. The .exe from designgears should now recognize your phone.

6. Click “Start” to begin!

7. Once it’s done, let it reboot itself up!

I've also been reading about "disabling lagfix"? What is that? How does one disable lagfix?

Is this 2.2 update carrier specific? I'm with Roger's in Canada. Will this still work?

What does it mean when people say there will be no "rooting" after flashing to 2.2?

Any information you can give me will be greatly appreciated! I would like to be 100% prepared for when my phone arrives! Any real downsides to flashing to 2.2? What happens when the carrier pushes the official release on the air? Would our phones still update after flashing it?

Thanks dudes!
[Captivate Android Development] designgears:
deactivate it, disable bt.. it will go away...

enable bt and it should stay gone...
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
The disable lagfix had to do with Voodoo lagfix in Atimn's kernel, you don't have the phone yet so you aren't using it and don't need to worry about it.

No "rooting" after 2.2 update means you don't have root access and need to root it to gain root access. If you use Cognition 2.2 beta 5.5 then it will have sideloading enabled, rooted, bloatware removed and it will save you lot's of time not having to do it all yourself.

Once you mod your phone, OTA's with AT&T are a no go, I can't speak for Canadian carriers. You can use mini kies which is safer than OTA updates. Read up on everything you want to do to your phone on the forums and you will be better prepared.
[Captivate Android Development] thomcrowe:
I'm having a problem with my microUSB. Whenever i plug it in it says "Kies (Firmware update)" and I don't have access to anything at all; does anyone know why this is? I'm assuming this is part of the reason that the .exe file can't find my phone.

Thanks
[Captivate Android Development] veener79:
I am having this issue too. I had to turn off my phone. Pull the battery. Then re-boot to get the error gone. My phone would not connect to my car's BT till I did this after getting the error.
[Captivate Android Development] JayPhill89:
Settings > applications > usb settings

Select ask a connection

If you go to settings > applications > development

Check debug mode

Now when you connect the phone it only allows you to enable and disable mass storage mode. I like that setting better.

sent from my Captivate with JI6
[Captivate Android Development] diablo009:
Some issues I am facing (so far noted) after the 2.2 update. Its a fresh install.

1. Battery drain is higher with wifi always on. I had wifi always on even on 2.1.

2. Bluetooth now creates issues of restarting phone.

3. My battery seems to be draining faster even with wifi and bluetooth off.
[Captivate Android Development] vsboxerboy1:
Hurmmmm, that worked...but I don't know why ಠ_ಠ. Oh well :) thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] reddog:
Hi vsboxerboy1,

Can you tell me where you got that battery icon?
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=799511

This is what you're looking for.
[Captivate Android Development] almostinsane:
Two finger pinch to zoom doesn't work for the browser and there are no zoom in or out controls.

And the GPS sucks, takes forever to get a location.
[Captivate Android Development] techmik67:
Double tap to zoom, like always, and the zoom controls come up.
[Captivate Android Development] jordanissport:
Froyo update/GPS fix

Hey guys. So I love the phone, but I cannot stand it that the gps is a P.O.S. I'm on my 2nd Captivate. The first one I downloaded the "PATCH" fix for gps. Didn't do anything. I traded in my phone for a new one. Same story. So now I hear of a leaked version of the froyo build. I download it teeming with excitement. I take it out for a test drive, and BAM, fell right on its face. I am now convinced the problem lies in the hardware, and no software can fix this crap. Either that, or when the phone is in motion, it has an extremely difficult time picking up a gps signal. I will get a hit, but as I'm driving, it's leaving me hundreds of yards behind, playing this annoying game of leap frog. HELP ME :eek:
[Captivate Android Development] jordanissport:
What do you mean FROM ZERO and how do you go back to stock 2.1?
[Captivate Android Development] reddog:
Thanks Rhiannon224.
[Captivate Android Development] techjeep:
Exchange meeting request issue...

I'm really loving Froyo so far. They only issue I'm seeing is that if someone sends a meeting request to my Exchange account, I no longer have the option to Accept/Decline the meeting. I've tried three different Email.apk files, including the Galaxy Tab (which I really like the look of BTW).

Any ideas on how to fix this?
[Captivate Android Development] vsboxerboy1:
I think it was F as referenced from this page:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=799511
[Captivate Android Development] TheShamsMan:
Hey dude! Thanks for the reply! I am definitely interested in a MOD which is all inclusive (ie, Lagfix, bloatware removed, etc). How does Cognition 2.2. Beta 5.5 compare to something like Cyanogen MOD? I was told that Roger's and AT&T are very similar in bloatware, and everything that works for AT&T should work for Roger's. Can you show me where and how exactly I can use these?

Thanks again!
[Captivate Android Development] Rred:
Jordan-

" I am now convinced the problem lies in the hardware, and no software can fix this crap."

For some reason most users don't post any objective information about the GPS problem. I have and I'll repeat it here for you.

The Broadcom GPS chip, as implemented in the Captivate, receives GPS signals 10-20db weaker than an obsolete second-generation DeLorme Earthmate receiver. That, in turn, is nowhere near as sensitive as a 3rd generation SirfStar-III, which is a commodity-grade chip and considered a standard of performance these days, although the 4th generation chips are even better still.

Without looking up the gains of the 3rd-gen chips...That probably makes the GPS in these phones some 30db "deafer" than a cheap GPS you can buy in the store, and that's a game ender.

There is no software patch that will affect this,

unless

the reception is being degraded by some type of interference from the radios in the phone rather than a hardware problem. If this was the problem, I'd have expected it to be fixed by now.

But there's also written evidence that someone at Samsung and AT&T were simple sloppy and didn't adequately test the GPS. The "A-GPS" asssisted-GPS server name, in the GPS setup menus, points to a domain name that is currently used by a domain name parking service NOT an active supplemental GPS server. The latest AT&T patch could have fixed that by pointing it to the Google supplemental server (as manual patches recommend) but even that won't "fix" the GPS, it will only fix the *assisted* GPS mode when internet connectivity is available.

Bottom line, if you want or need a GPS, the Captivate can't do the job. If an assisted-GPS that will work in cellular coverage areas will do the job most of the time for you--that's all the Captivate is going to do. At least it seems to be a decent little phone in most other aspects. (Although, having only 16 fixed steps on the volume control is also rather lame.<G>)

Don't expect a fix until and unless someone at Samsung decides to change the hardware, and probably add $5 to the cost of each phone. I'm guessing they used this Broadcom chip because it was CHEAP and they never considered that might mean "inadequate". I'd sure love to hear from the players themselves, but that would be like Apple admitting the i4 has a dumb antenna design.<G>
[Captivate Android Development] vsboxerboy1:
It's amazing that people have such wild differences in their experience with the GPS though. Some people had theirs working fine from day 1, I (as well as others) have noticed mine working with the Froyo update, and still others have not. Very odd.
[Captivate Android Development] noidd:
If it was a hardware issue as far as the chip is concerned , couldn't you conclude that everyone's phone would experience horrible performance? However, this is not the case. Why? I have no idea. Unless, the older batch of phones have defective chips, then this would explain the different results.

Just my own opinion...
[Captivate Android Development] veener79:
I have noticed with 2.2 that as long as you have a clear line of site to the sky you are golden. At least with mine. If I have it on the top of the dash it is as good as the GPS Nav system my car has. If I have out of of a good line of site (like the middle of the car) it is off and laggy by about 100 feet.

It works great out doors. That when I will need it most. I know chicago but it is still easy to get turned around when you are only down there a few times a year. It is great for marking where you parked or trying to find local stores.
[Captivate Android Development] raistlintower:
your right i've had no problems with gps from day 1, and with the build 'not one problem:rolleyes:
[Captivate Android Development] raistlintower:
i only had one problem but it was with the install, it got stuck on download target....the yellow screen, i tried it about 10 times and nothing, then i went to the job and the computer i use i'm the administrator, so i tried it there just in case and pow!! took 4 min. to finish, i don't know if using the admin account had anything to do with it but it might..good to check it out...
[Captivate Android Development] Rred:
"everyone's phone would experience horrible performance? However, this is not the case. Why?"

Again, most folks have no idea--and shouldn't need to have any idea--of what their "GPS" is doing. These phones do not simply "have a GPS".

They have a GPS that uses multiple "AGPS" assisted GPS modes! How would the average user know if their "GPS" was working in standalone mode, or getting help from the cell phone system, or getting help from a local WiFi router, or getting help from both of those at once?

The average user wouldn't know! And since the average user doesn't know how to access the GPS set-up menus to verify what their setup actually is--all they know is "it works" with no idea of what "it" is.

Does the average cell phone user have any idea that their phone really needs an external antenna to work well in the boondocks? Can you still even find a phone that offers that option? No, in Arthur Clarke's words "a sufficiently advanced technology will be indistinguishable from magic".

And since everyone in the business (the salesmen, the stores, the phone makers, and the cellular providers) prefers that the customers stay ignorant and not be bothered with technical information...the average cell phone user really has no idea how the phones work, much less how their GPS works. Or doesn't work.

Which is also part of the reason why you need a "secret code" to access the GPS setup menu in the first place. Samsung & AT&T don't want you to even know these options exist, let alone meddle with them.

"Don't worry, be happy, for a good time call 1-800-LOBOTOMY."
[Captivate Android Development] tnayrbj:
I don't know

I am not sure about all the GPS stuff that guy just said, but I like the pretty colors the phone has when I hit the button on the right side.

LOL
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
Literally LOL....me too

Posted from my phone using some technology I don't understand
[Captivate Android Development] NeonMonkey:
Is it possible to flash back to the stock ROM? I am curious because I want to be able to upgrade to the real thing when it comes out.
[Captivate Android Development] di11igaf:
you could always flash back to stock jf6 with the odin 1-click. whether this is completely 100% stock or not is debatable since some people reported issues with the jh7 OTA after using odin but that is as good as your gonna get if you wanna flash back to stock. i do believe someone on here posted a TRUE stock rom but id have to dig for it.
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
We don't have CM so I can't offer a comparison. Read the developement section which is where you are currently. That is where you will find the ROMS, kernel's, lagfixs and that stuff, read, read, read my firend and all of your questions will be answered, these forums are a plethora of information. You are welcome, enjoy your phone.
[Captivate Android Development] Mellocortz:
Update seems stuck

Hi I followed the instructions on the first page Odin3 is showing the screen below but has been sitting there for over 2 hours. I'm afraid to touch anything for fear of bricking my phone.

Please advise.

Thanks in advance.

<ID:0/003> Added!!

<ID:0/003> Odin v.3 engine (ID:3)..

<ID:0/003> File analysis..

<ID:0/003> Set PIT file..

<ID:0/003> DO NOT TURN OFF TARGET!!

<ID:0/003> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/003> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/003> Sbl.bin

<ID:0/003> boot.bin

<ID:0/003> cache.rfs

<ID:0/003> factoryfs.rfs
[Captivate Android Development] prorek:
Market not working

First I would like to appreciate the efforts spent on the subject topic..

But I am having a problem with MARKET, I don't know that much about android as this is my first Android Device.

I have Captivate unlocked and I am using non AT&T sim, the kernal is 2.6.32.9 and Ive installed FROYO above the old 2.1 system.

now the problem is whenever i launch market it say LOADING for couple of minutes then it gets minimized, when I check with Task Manager then the MARKET is running in background, and when i select it from Task Manager again same thing happen (keep on Loading then it disappear).

Please help me in this matter as maybe I have missed something!! I searched so much in all the threads but could not find any solution!!

thanks in advance.
[Captivate Android Development] madman808:
I'm having an issue trying to sync my contacts from my ATT addressbook. I keep getting network failure errors. I thought I had read something about needing to just reboot the phone to resolve it but that hasn't worked. Am I the only one experiencing this? It's not too big of a deal if I need to recopy my contacts but the network failure is a little disconcerting.
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
It's a know issue with the Froyo beta leak and there is no fix.
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
Go settings - applications - manage applications- all- market- then clear data. This has solved the issue for most.
[Captivate Android Development] noidd:
My stating that people are experiencing mixed results with the performance stems from posts here who are stock, my girlfriends phone and other boards. For ex. My Gf's phone locks within 10 seconds, running JH7 (now) and previously JF6 in which the performance didnt change. Mine takes in upwards of 2 minutes max side by side.

As i was saying, if its all the same hardware and thats the fault then we would achieve lock at the same time or pretty close to it. If software cant cure it then my guess would be i have a defective phone/chip.

Those results are spread out with a bunch of people, not just mine and my gf's phones.
[Captivate Android Development] prorek:
I tried it, it did not work, I even made factory restore also did not work!! any ideas?
[Captivate Android Development] EpicEric:
Good news...and bad news.
[Captivate Android Development] angelinadawhop:
I897UCJI6 - FROYO - for real (( YES IT IS)))

I am soooooooooooooo happy now, its workingggggg.... awesome its not april - lol its real is right even with the dag... lag ... im excited been rooting all night looking to play now lol ......................

lets do it.....
[Captivate Android Development] Rhiannon224:
I could be wrong on this but perhaps it is because you are using a non AT&T SIM. I am not sure.

Try flashing back to stock JF6, do a Master Clear to wipe the internal of anything leftover from any previous flashes, the flash Froyo, clear Market data and see if that works. I always Master Clear before flashing that way I get a clean flash and less issue. Also there is a known issue with the Android ID with Froyo, everyone's is the same, get your correct number when you are on stock JF6 using an app from the market called Android Device ID then after flashing Froyo there is now a tool on the market for changing it to your correct ID.
[Captivate Android Development] eclypse3demons:
I am going to be honest, I think this phone in general is very sensitive. Mine does not get very good cell reception in my apartment, as opposed to my BJ2 did. however the GPS is much more snappier. BUT GPS is still very much so line of sight and as such if this antenna or transmit/receiver is not very powerful some people may very well experience horrible GPS performance due to occlusion, and location. It would stand to reason why some people may have bad GPS and some good. Just like people living in Boston may have terrible cell service not because of the lack of towers but the over saturation of iPhones, and someone in east boondock Alabama may have great reception. =)

For me my only problem is the performance overall has dropped (little choppier than the stock 2.1+update was) and my issues with Hulu not working even though I have 10.1 flash installed =) Here's to hoping the final OEM release by ATT/Samsung will be better than this.
[Captivate Android Development] j.eaton80:
Hey is there anyone that knows how to flash the 2.1 eclair back to the phone on the samsung captivate so i can get updates again i know the official version of froyo is coming soon and i want to be able to update when it gets here the leaked 2.2 is just a little too buggy for me phone keeps freezing up on me :-( if you know of a site that i can get the factory software please post a link here if you have time thank you
[Captivate Android Development] newter55:
To get back to stock:

Search ODIN one click, captivate bible, wiki captivate....easy enough to find even just browsing development forums for captivate

Transmitted telepathically from my mind to yours.....with a little help from xda app
[Captivate Android Development] jba_xda:
So I think I screwed up. I flashed the ROM, everything worked just fine. It's up and running, 100%. However, I did no backups or anything. (I was excited and not thinking too hard about this.) Did I just lose all of my apps and data? It's not a huge deal if I did, but I am going to be a little frustrated if I have to redownload everything. Please tell me I can recover this somehow.
[Captivate Android Development] jhernand1102:
Nope...everything is lost...
[Captivate Android Development] hurstrsq:
Everything works great. No issues so far, but I've only had it loaded for about an hour.

I did download the new Sirius/XM app and used droid explorer to install it. Had a little trouble at first with logging in, depending if I was on wifi or not, but everything seems fine now.

Have not been able to test the wifi hotspot. I'm on the edge network at home and was not able to share the connection. My pc found the hotspot and connected, just no internet connection.
[Captivate Android Development] parabolee:
Do we know when the official will hit the USA yet?

Also do we know if when it's released those of us using this one will be able to access "protected apps" in the store?

Thanks
[Captivate Android Development] jba_xda:
Okay. I got everything back up and running, although it took me an hour or so. Oh well.

Is it just me or does the battery seem to be draining faster on 2.2?
[Captivate Android Development] jba_xda:
And another weird issue: I charge it, get the "Fully charged" notification, unplug, and it's immediately at 97%. Do I need to "re-train" my battery or something?
[Captivate Android Development] Rred:
eclypse-

"BUT GPS is still very much so line of sight" No more so than your cell phone itself! In fact they use similar microwave frequencies. The main difference is that the GPS satellites are transmitting on very low power (considering the distances) so the signals are weaker.

Twenty years ago, you needed a clean sky view for even the best GPS to work. Take one inside the cabin of your car or boat, and it would go dead.

Ten years ago? The third-generation stuff was already coming on the market, and a SirfStar-III brought a radical new standard for sensitivity. That's 3rd gen, 4th gen is on the market for a couple of years now. With a commodity-grade SirfStarIII, you can use a GPS under tree cover in a dense forest, with no problem. In the cabin of a boat, no problem. IN YOUR HOUSE if it is a wood-frame 2-story, it will even work with the stray signal leaking in your windows. And if you tuck the GPS in between your car's sun visor and the cabin roof, where it can only pick up reflections from your seats and dashboard? Damned thing still works without any dropouts!

I'm telling you, it has not been necessary for cheap ($50 and less) mass market GPSes to "have a clear sky view" for five to ten years now. this phone is a throwback to the 1990's, and anyone who objectively compares this phone to a commodity-grade GPS made and sold in the past 5 years, should be able to see a huge difference immediately.

"On the grid" using the internet server assistance and the cell tower assitance and all the A-GPS functions? It can pass, most of the time. Now suppose you've just been hit by Hurricane Andrew (or Katrina or any of the big ones) and you're trying to use that GPS to deliver supplies, when the streets signs and cell towers are all down. Ooopsie, ain't gonna work. Got to stop the car and get out and wait for a clear sky view?

Heck, I couldn't even use the GPS (standalone) with Goggle Maps while I was driving locally, unless I stuck the phone all the way forward on the dashboard. My Nuvi and my real GPS are both happy to work lying on the front seat!

If I got that kind of service in a diner (lukewarm reheated coffee?) I'd send it back and tell the waitress to put up a fresh pot. Just sent back my Captivate to AT&T with words to the same effect. It's a GREAT concept. Just needs a real GPS, a volume control with more than 16 steps (Samsung and other TVs generally have 32-64+), and a battery charger that doesn't ring an alarm in the middle of the night to say "unplug me".

No doubt they'll do better the next time around. And if someone fixes the calendar/memo software to match the decade-old functions of the Palm Desktop...I may even buy it. I WANT TO. I just think they need to do a less sophmoric job on the details. Maybe Korea is just closer to heaven, so the GPS signals are stronger there? <VBG>