yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
there are no customs checks and no limits at all in EU, including UK. If i order anything from UK or any other EU country, the only difference compared to local shops is pricing. According to EU legislative, if they ship to other countries, they even must cover the buyer with the warranty of the target country - in my case 2 years instead of 1 year which is common elsewherre.

i was comparing the expansys price with unbranded sim-free phones, and T-Mobile price was the unbranded sim-free price as well. Maybe not in germany, but here in Slovakia the telecoms must sell you the phones sim-free as well. By the way, telecoms are usually the most expensive ones - so if their price is 20-30 or even more euros lower than Expansys, while the telecom's price is another 20-50 euros higher than standard shop price, then something is wrong on Expansys side.

most countries in Europe has comparable VAT, around 19-21%. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Value_Added_Tax#VAT_rates

Also, if you order from Amazon UK, then they set the price at checkout page according to the target country VAT. In my example, Amazon will charge me 435.48 GBP (~497e) instead of 429 GBP, same is true for Germany. So VAT is again not a factor. In case of Italy with 20% VAT, it will be 439.13 GBP (~501e). That is still 60 euro lower price than from Expansys Italy, even if you include the typical 8-10GBP postage fee you will be nearly 50 euro lower.

So yes, Expansys has "robbed" kholk. Expansys is worth to use only if there are really no other options left. And comparable ? I don't know when you checked them last time, but even when i bought the Milestone at february, the were more expensive than anyone else, i used them only because there was no other option to get Moto Milestone at that time.
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
Yeap, but hope dies last.

I will know when it will be shipped as they will take money out of my CC so will keep you guys up to date (again - hope it will be coming Friday).
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I've seen some new G2 on eBay in stock ready to be shipped (confirmed with seller). But they didn't respond when I asked if it's G2 or Z, so I assume it' G2. And I want HTC Sense...
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
It also says :

So in fact, they're just doing a "drop ship" from HTC. Who knows if they really are ready to go. I highly doubt it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
still wet:

At the moment we still don't have confirmation about shipping date from HTC. The products are in Taiwan ready to ship and HTC and Google still didn't finalized the agreement so they cannot ship the devices before this is finalized therefore all our dates are still only estimation based on information we are getting from HTC and their ongoing negotiations with Google.

the 22nd may not be the date
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
This is expansys info as I know, will see 22 Oct.

BTW: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-SIM-FREE-...bilePhones&hash=item2c582e0bd9#ht_3593wt_1140

More than 10 available :D No words about pre-order :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
just baucause you talk alot doesn't mean anything.

some strange shops might sell it below price. ok. dont want to know how they get the remaining money. selling your details to some chinese credit card criminals or what ever?!

it has a reason, why the big ones like amazon and expansys are almost at same price level.

the only reason for buying on other countries is the tax and currency advantage.

no option for me since i want german keyboard layout.
[G2 and Desire Z General] timberman123:
If you look further there is a picture with the added sentence: Shipped from the UK within 7 to 10 days.. So it wont ship for at least 7 days from now so I assume they dont have it in stock already..
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Of course if you want german keyboard layout, then you need german phone.

But that changes nothing about the fact that Expansys is overpriced, and no one talks about some obscure shops which will steal your credit card info.

I'm talking about the fact that Expansys is in most cases 5 or even more percent expensive than anyone else on the market in case of the more expensive phones (and i personally don't care if there are exceptions at lower prices, those are not important in our case).

Mobile networks are not obscure, right ? Then let's see the full price at them (including 19% VAT):

HTC Desire

========

O2 - 419.29€

T-Mobile - 429,00 €

Orange - 430,00 €

Expansys - 474,99 € (10% above the most expensive price at network)

Samsung Galaxy S

==============

Orange - 490.00 €

O2 - 494,67 €

T-Mobile - 499,00 €

Expansys - 529,99 € (6% above the most expensive)

Oh iPhone 4, that is a special category (iPhone 4 16GB Black)

=============================

Orange - 690.00 €

T-Mobile - 749,00 €

Expansys - 919,99 € (22% above)

Of course there are exceptions, for example the whole SE portfolio is cheaper at Expansys, but on other side, who cares for SE). There are also items priced same :

HTC HD2

=======

O2 - 457,28 €

Orange - 470.00 €

T-Mobile - 479,00 €

Expansys - 469,99 €

But OK, let's compare the Desire Z (including the 19% VAT, excluding the postage fees, using the current GBP/EUR ratio from Google if needed) :

Amazon.co.uk - 434.48 GBP ~= 492-495€ depending on exchange ratge

Subsidiaries of one of the biggest Slovak computer parts distributor - 490-500 €

Hej.sk (one of the biggest eshops in Slovakia) - 488.59 €

Expansys - 534,99 €

Even if i select the highest price, i see 7% higher price at Expansys. I can't compare it with operators as they don't sell them yet, but considering how they price HTC phones, it will be ~500€ too once they will list the Desire Z.

Hell, even in UK you have a big difference - Expansys £449.99 vs Amazon.co.uk £429.99.
[G2 and Desire Z General] craigw2010:
All this about price is irrelevant!! We want to know when our shiny new phones are being dispatched and getting into our wanting hands!!price is free on a contract £30 T-Mobile 900 mins unlimited txts and 750mb Internet!!

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Second that, price is irrelevant. I take the time to decide what to do with my old phones when the new one arrives...

And when they start shipping, I want next day delivery! :-D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
Agreed, honestly I couldn't care less about the price. And it's off topic as well :D

Let's get back to our crazy-and-totally-useless search for intel :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
If only the ships were equipped with GPS units and website was made for us impatient customers to track the ships live while on the way from Taiwan or whatever with "our" precious cargo...
[G2 and Desire Z General] invasion13:
Hi,

In France, Rue du commerce , online retailer with a very good reputation sent me an email last night saying, we are expecting to receive it from our supplier at the latest the 2th november

ps: AZERTY model

regards
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Once again, if the ships (and phones) would be still in Taiwain, then there is no way for them to reach Europe till end of the next month. It takes 6 weeks for a ship from China to reach Europe (read http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/europe/ecmt/pubpdf/06Europe-Asia.pdf ), period. If they want to start selling them this or next week, then the phones are already in Europe.
[G2 and Desire Z General] RonPenguin:
pdashop.nl still gives a delivery date of october 27th.

On octobre 29th they have HTC demo days where you can discover the HTC desire Z.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
Like HTC says....

Here is an idea: stop speculating and start praying :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
Dit toestel hopen we einde van de maand binnen te hebben.

Hiermee hoop ik u voldoende te hebben geïnformeerd.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Rick Veldkamp

www.salland.eu webshop

translated.

We hope to have this decive by the end of the month :)

+ Twitter from markmoons => HTC NL

http://twitter.com/markmoons/status/27524141836

@TomJoling nog ietsje langer. Anderhalve week ongeveer.

=> e week and a half posted on 16oct => 26 oct in stores somewhere
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Yea, we all know we have to wait until end of the month :-( We are just killing time here. Hoping for a miracle to happen earlier.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
As said some posts ago, HTC Italy said to me that webshops have already got the device in their warehouses.

The Expansys' date October 22 should be reliable (at least for HTC Italy)... and I don't know why only in UK and Ireland it's scheduled for October 29...

Anyway, I live in Italy :P
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roachie:
Waiting for the phone call from pdashop about delivery :( anticipation is way to high!

They should not allow pre-orders anymore, its bad for the health tbh.
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
Pdashop:

Helaas hebben we hier nog geen specifieke informatie over.

Van zodra wij meer weten zullen wij dit communiceren op onze website.

Daar zal je dan de nodige informatie vinden over de leveringsdatum en richtprijs.

translation:

we dont got specific information blabla :x
[G2 and Desire Z General] ale58:
I asked expansys italy customer care if 22-10 is confirmed: they answered the date is not confirmed and maybe it will changed.

They will update their site with new info as soon as htc will give them news.
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
Yeap, but then think about the queue and overloaded eshop servers.
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Local eshops in Slovakia can't give date either.
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
cause they cannot effort looking it up due to no margin from selling this device.

cal expansys. you will have someone on the line with infos...

ignoring all that ****ty talk (i know that i am big part of it) i start to believe it will be 11.11. which is there for german version.

i am not even checking delivery status page anymore.
[G2 and Desire Z General] will_riot:
I've been keeping up with this thread as all information seems to come through here.

I contacted HTC this morning about the handset and actual release in the UK.

To which I got a short simple reply;

Dear Will Garland,

The product will be available on 29 of october.

Sincerely,

Siva

HTC
[G2 and Desire Z General] craigw2010:
Sweet, at least some one has got a concrete date, just disapointed we have to wait another week for the phone!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
guys - noone knows. i don't get why you still focus on asking for dates???
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
This is from SuperETrader twitter:

@SuperEtrader Hi, can I have a shipping status update on Desire HD? I was told Phones4U already selling them sim free since Tuesday @£449

@czent first batch of Desire HD stock will arrive tomorrow.There is a stock shortage, so orders will be shipped in order of date purchased.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

@SuperEtrader any eta on the desire z?

@penguin20000 at the moment we only have a definite date for the Desire HD, our supplier has told us the Desire Z wil arrive next week.

Should be fairly reliable. So...Desire HD is coming before Z. Fck.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
This can go worse... what if on 29th I get response that all phones have been shipped to people who preordered earlier? Second stock arriving... when?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Neuromansa:
Geeze, I don't even wanna think about that...
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
Damn HTC and DAMN WEBSHOPS.

P.S.: Anyway, I've ordered it a long time ago so I'll get the first batch phones :P
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
I can only hope that order at end of September means 1st batch at Amazon ;).
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
http://www.expansys.be/a.aspx?i=203897

says 22 october here in belgium... ordering it then.

Also the portuguese store of this affliate allready sells them

+ the azerty is 5 days wait time :xxxx
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
@miiZ

Expansys is saying 22/10 for all european countries, apart UK and Ireland.
[G2 and Desire Z General] miiZ:
pff i just want my Z... but to pay 544 euros instead of 450 :xxx
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
miiZ, me too :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
I'm going to import it. Let's hope the Desire Zs are similar to the newer shipments of G2, without the resets and the loose hinge.
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] veryviral:
Hi,

I have installed Incubus26Jc's super eclair 6.1 which works gr8 except for the fact that it does not load any music/mp3 files from the 8GB microSD card. The default music player shows a few data files. I have tried placing the music files in the root folder but that did not help. Tried other music apps from android market without any success. Pl advice.

Thanks!
[myTouch 3G, Magic General] veryviral:
All.. It looks like I got a solution. Backed up my data from SD card, formatted the SD on my android phone & restored the data. Now all music files load normally.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buggystick:
I apologize if this has already been answered, but I wasn't able to find an answer on the forums.

I was successful at flashing the CM6 stable ROM to my EVO 4g, but in order to do so I had to downgrade my bootloader to .76. I would like to restore my stock ROM using my nandroid backup, but it fails to load the boot image. Apparently this is because of a version mismatch?

Does anyone have the stock PC36IMG.zip file that I can download so I can restore the stock ROM?

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xeren:
Not sure if you really want the stock rom with all your settings back, or just want to go back to sense UI, but if it's the latter, here's the rooted stock rom to flash:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=743781
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buggystick:
I would like to get the stock rom with all my settings/apps back, but I suppose I could try your link as a fallback if it's not possible.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] smokedkill:
It may not be an app, but I found a website that has a bunch of TV shows that stream on the Eris. the site is androidvideo.net . it is very compatible for the Eris.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] t2noob:
Nice Find watching ! :D
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] smokedkill:
I hope more people donate so they can get more space to put more shows up. The admin told me that they are trying to get a 1000 shows up by the end of the year, but they need more space.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] marquardt1219:
Sweet thanks.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] icbeer:
Have you seen the show selection, LMAO!
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] smokedkill:
I think it has some good shows on there. They may be a few years old, but they are still good. Plus what other options do we have with the Eris.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] dragon1018:
I do like this site nice find. Hopefully there will be better things to come
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] smokedkill:
When I donated $5, I got a thank you email from the admin. I asked him how he thought of the idea and he told me that he had an Eris and got irritated that we didnt have too many options for watching videos so he decided to create his own option. He told me that the more that people donate, the more webspace he can afford to upload more shows to watch. So if you like the website, please donate so he can afford to upload more shows. I'm going to continue to donate $5 a month just to help ensure the site is able to grow. I'm really happy that the Eris isn't being left in the dust with this website since it is compatible with every Android because it don't use flash.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Cheatman1:
CH131.COM works on my phone.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] Scallywag1:
If your rooted on froyo then jetflicks app from market is a really good app updated daily and plays really well on Eris. Its updated daily and has every show I've looked for. Hope this helps.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] smokedkill:
You don't need to be rooted for Jetflicks to work. And you don't need to buy the app since you can go straight to their website. I also subscribe to them. The problem I have with them is they have said certain shows were coming soon, and 4 months later, they still aren't there.
[Droid Eris Themes and Apps] smokedkill:
CH131.com doesn't work on my stock browser. androidvideo.net does. ch131.com may work with skyfire though.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jomtones:
Just came across this article while researching how to root my new HTC Desire (sweet phone!) ... is this still true and should I be concerned?

Also - has anyone got thoughts on the 'unrevoked' 'one-click-root'? - is it as safe as doing a more 'manual' method?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mortenmhp:
Well i have heard of several apps still storing passwords as plain text, so might still be a problem. This is also the case on unrooted phones though. The real problem here regarding root is, that apps, which you have given root access, can access those files which is normally available only to the actual app. So it is more a question of only allowing root to trusted apps, which you should always do anyways, as anything run with full access have the possibility to do major damage.

And regarding unrevoked, it should be as safe as rooting using pauls method, which only supports the old hboot versions by the way. There will always be a risk to it, but if you do everything right, it is very easy. The difference in the rooting methods is more the way they hack the recovery in order to let you flash unsigned or test-signed zip files. :) So just go with the latest unrevoked and make sure to install the drivers the right way first and you should be fine :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jomtones:
Brilliant, thanks so much for the informative background, I will be rooting!

Read the OP too by Cory which has made me less worried - http://forum.androidcentral.com/hacking/35470-aware-clear-text-passwords-database-files.html
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mortenmhp:
No problem :) I hope it helped you understanding.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] WatermelonSlim:
Is there an app like Tune In Radio on Android?

http://www.appbrain.com/app/tunein-radio/tunein.player

I am trying to connect my old Touch Pro 2 up to some computer speakers and just use it as an internet radio at my desk. Does anyone know a good WM app for that?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] BeEazy10:
SPBradio, coreplayer streams too but you have to go threw a little trouble to set it up but SPB radio is your best bet
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] lacesse:
pandora

pandora is a fantastic music device..and thanks to all the awesome developers at xda we are able to have it...here it should be if i did it right.but if i didnt just search for pandora on the site.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] cbronson41:
+1 Pandora

I second Pandora radio. It is great! I use it pretty much everywhere, on my Tilt2, ipod touch, on work and home computers, blue ray player. Now if I could somehow get it on my car stereo!

Its got a couple limits, like only being able to listen for 40 hours a month (which you can use more if you purchase), but I've only reached that limit twice in the 8 months I've been using it, just remember to pause when not listening :D.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] worwig:
http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda/
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps] bwnotredame06:
Pandora is Good , I even upgraded and got PANDORA one, then i found Slacker Radio and now use it more and upograded to Slacker Pro very very nice and you can make your stations or choose from many others.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pb3000:
Hello im new to this forum and i have come to a little problem maybe somebody in here might be able to help me with

I by mistake erased the avatar movie, and sure enough the icon would say movie not found, so i used pandora data recovery and was able to recover the movie from the Sd Card to my computer, i then transferred the movie to my phone again, and now the movie just wont play when you click on the icon it just sits there doing nothing i did a factory restore, but that didn't work either, any ideas???????

please let me know if something comes to mind to any of you of how i might be able to make it work.

Thank you in advance
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
The path of the video might be in different location and icon wont work. You dont need the icon to play movie its just shortcut

Just open video player it should show there
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pb3000:
Hi, and thanks for your reply, i just did that, but it says your phone does not have any media files, even tho the movie that i was able to retrieve again is 1.4 gigs, and it wasn't overwritten or anything on the sd card, any ideas? should i transfer it to another folder on the sd card or to the phone???????

Thank you.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
Even though you did data recovery the file could be damaged, it should play.

I deleted the avatar shortcut and just access it from video player

Go to a local t mobile they can probably put it back on for you
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pb3000:
Yea im going to do that this weekend, i went to a couple of tmobile stores but they had no returns, its weird the data doesn't seem corrupted at all.

Thank you for your help.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dbm0361:
Make a new folder on your ext SD card name it ...Movie... Put avatar in it reboot then try it make sure it just says Movie
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
doesn't need to be in a folder "movies" it will see it anywhere and you dont need to reboot you just unplug usb from you PC and it will update everything.

I do have a movies folder, just to be organized and after you mentioned that i moved the file to another location and still showed and played fine

What do you mean returns? Just ask them if they can transfer it from the demo display model.

Also this file is DRM protected so when you did data recovery something could have happened with DRM... IDK
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pb3000:
ok so im guessing is corrupted since i moved it to the phone video folder and media player finds it but it says 00:00 minutes.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
It wont play on computer even if it wasnt currupted

The video DRM protected it will only play on the phone
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pb3000:
yea its on the phone, the internal storage of the phone inside the DCIM folder of the phone, vibrant media player finds it there but it says what i wrote above.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dbm0361:
Not movies..... Movie. Try it this will let it play from the icon short cut
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
movies movie same thing for what im talking about, think there was miss communication. You came in with really vague information

I thought you were saying video player wont see it because it wasn't put into a folder "movie"

any ways the movie is corrupt

OP when you get the video working do what dbm0361 said if you want to play from shortcut.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CappyQ:
How appropriate.
[Galaxy S I9000 Themes and Apps] webstar1:
Delete this thread any moderator
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigmack:
I am hoping someone over here can help me.

Link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=796122

I am looking for a PSD or the font and size of Manups CLEAN Icon set for his rEVOlution Theme.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dezel29:
my mobile netork keeps turning on and off constantly...have tryd several different roms and kernals and still the same...had to go back to pri of 1.40...1.77 was slow on 3g for me...it does is when i am tethering, and i also am using a verizon prl of 01337...any ideas on how to fix ? thanks guys...

virusrom rc3, king cfs #10 pri 1.40, prl 01337
[Android Software Development] eurekamy:
Hi Guys, I need help please how to install IGO My Way on my Dell streak...android version 2.1 (from O2)...if any one can show me the method or put a link for me with the details...would much appreciate it thx in advance
[Android Software Development] rassha:
+1

saw this version on youtube

works in 800x480 which is suitable for lot devices

anyone have copy :)