yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
haha I actually never abandoned the kaiser because i never had one (im a vogue guy)

and yea it might very well be from your .nbh i am using the one on dzo's site labeled 26-7-2010 i have found it to be pretty stable but then again im not using my vogue for daily use.

to be honest till the newest fresh-froyo i always liked donut the best but just never went back to it, for eclair i used vanilja eclair (very stable for eclair) then i used the fresh froyo's till the CM6 ports came out then i got my hero
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Only one doubt...

Why Android (in specially Froyo) are so most stable and seem's more envolved in Vogue?

The hardware specs are the same...then why?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
i work retail so i am actually randomly busy at random times but i am def ok with putting some sort of go to guide together, and yea haha its really weird how alike our approaches are
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Smiles..i think that you was a Kaiser man ;)

So, for me try your new release, what version of panel i can use?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
well basically it comes down to the fact that the hardware specs are close to the same but not exactly the same, i cant explain why most builds came from the vogue side of things but kaiser and polaris have def had some way more involved backend people (kallt_kaffe and l1q1d for example), but its more than likely due to the fact that Dzo started everything on the vogue so by the time kaiser and polaris joined in we had already had it for a while
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
this answer i am not sure of mostly because of the fact that vogue's dont have panel types, i want to say panel type 2 is the most common one for kaiser but i have no real grounds to back that up
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Tomorrow after gym, i will try your release 3...i was waiting for that :D

I remember that in WM, the roms leave a lot of time to be released...but in android, the developers are fast so much ;)

I'll be waiting for your rls, man!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
@marcelotorres I don't know man, the Kaiser has always been this sexy device that calls you, draws you closer, and doesn't let you go but when you're there, dedicated to it, giving it all your time and effort, it doesn't quite let you have 100% :) kind of like a 99% it's almost there, but not quite, like a picky girlfriend.

@thoughtlesskyle That sounds great to me, I am alright with it. I'll pm you later in the week to see what we can do. By the way, I read somewhere about a question you had with ADW launcher, before I changed to Helix I dumped that apk and noticed it had only one wallpaper, and that one changed alright. I also know that the approach to a wallpaper in Eclair and (I think) Froyo as well is to have some sort of overlay and transparency to let you see what a different app sets. Maybe that is the reason why they turn out white? I havent dumped the Eclair version of the ADW Launcher but I know the developer is using some sort of automatic toggle to that transparency thing. If there is something I can help with just let me know. I am pretty sure marcelotorres can help us testing since I have a Kaiser but can't flash, you have a Vogue, and he can test any of our little experiments, hopefully he'd be willing to do so and learn more things in the process :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
I haven't words for thank you for your help and patience with my doubts and questions! I really thank you so much for this!

I'm waiting anxious for you next release, but, the release 2 are the best!!!

Thanks for the attached file, this is what i was searching for.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
yea im looking to make a wallpaper gallery like the CMod one so that way i can cut down on the file size of that beast esp since their are only a few wallpapers in there that go with the theme, and yea he will make a great test subject, i also have some testers i have been using for not so super froyo.

EDIT: PS i see you found the Flip Clock you were looking for from that screen shot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
I take a look into the .tar file to see how is the structure of your rom. At first look, this is very complex...but looking better, it's not so.

I'll be studying more to develop my releases too, in the future.

I'll try first only do some mods, just for myself.

And then i'll contact you for support.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xtr3m3:
Hi, after upgrading to release two, and after restarting, I'm getting this error:

"the process android.process.media has stopped unexpectedly."

I will have to reinstall, as the main screen does not come up. Any ideas why his happens? Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Yeap, it's all documented in post #1 where I advise to stay away from this release :) it will randomly give you these errors as you restart. It's a really picky release that works perfectly fine if you don't restart, works perfectly fine or doesnt work at all everytime you install it.

I am uploading a candidate release 3 today for testing with marcelotorres, the guy in the previous posts. If he doesnt have any problem, with him it would make two people running without errors and therefore I will move it to post #1 as an official release 3. The link will be in the next post, feel free to check it out if you're willing to.

As for why this happens, seems to me it is a very nasty conflict with the kernel, not sure what combination is responsible for it but I have gotten really different outcomes depending on what I do:

-Hard reset to get a clean kernel, install

-Soft reset and install, hard reset

-Soft reset and install, no hard reset

-Install, wait for it to mess up, hard reset.

Sometimes I get the media process force closing on second boot, the phone app not working at all since first boot, sometimes it works perfectly fine. At times it is not working and after a hard reset it works great. One time I was even left without touchscreen, restarted and everything was fine.

My point is, not how bad this release is but how picky it can be and why you might wanna stay away from it. As I stated before, if it installs and works, it will run just fine if you don't restart and restarting is something I did not test as a result of a hurried release.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Yeah, I tried looking on the official website but due to HTC complains the skin that you have has been removed and now it is just a "normal" clock with weather so I had to borrow yours :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
i haven used RLS2 but this program is pretty cool it reboots just the shell and gui of android, i would reinstall RLS2 and try rebooting using that and see if it still errors out, if it doesnt cause errors that should be close enough to a restart till RLS3 is stable
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Alrighty man, what you've been waiting for :)

http://www.mediafire.com/?ud784uyvu2jx5cc

Please test it, mess with it. If you can confirm it is okay (might not be perfect but at least better than previous two releases) then I will move it to the first post. Thanks! hope you enjoy it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Awesome :) thank you!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
I've been also researching into this and I found out as zenity says:

"My android installations usually get corrupted after a lot of use. I think the problems come from corruption on the SD card, Android can't unmount our data cleanly. I would backup your data and reinstall."

I've been suspecting a partition or something gets corrupted as even a reinstall of the affected app does not help which I just confirmed reading in another thread here at xda. Any rewritable system might get corrupted by a kernel crash.

Based on this and my little hard reset experiments I can now advise to try different kernels, or the solution they posted in the thread:

System on NAND, Data on EXT2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xtr3m3:
Sorry, I got excited when I saw release 2, and forgot to read everything.. :rolleyes:

I'm already using system on nand, and data on ext2. I must say, it is really stable.. Until you restart a few times.

Keep up the good work :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Awesome, glad it kinda worked for you. It's a pity that I thought moving to EXT2 would solve our issues... oh well, I had my first issue with my candidate for RLS 03 today, after a restart it reset my wallpaper. This was a lot of time and resets after installation, much better than RLS 02 or 01. I moved to EXT2 and so far it is working great, I'll keep restarting and see what happens, you should try another kernel, stay in the Eclair branch though. If I could flash I promise I would have already tried all of the kernels.

Does anyone know if this issue is general? I sometimes think I am going crazy or that I have a defective phone, this happened to me in almost all builds that I let run for a long time. Warm, Super Froyo, Eclair... The only difference among them is how long an installation lasts without messing up. Seems like i am only managing to extend that time a little.

Thanks a lot for your support!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Testing

Hi my friend!

I'm downloading rls 3, and anxious to test it!

Now, i'm going to gym, and when i come back i'll test everything on this release.

One question:

Why sometimes, when i'm testing another android distro's, wifi getting error? It caused because the wrong panel or something like this?

Hello my friend!!!

I'm testing now release 3.

It's very good...i'm waiting and will post some results along the time.

Thank you for release.

If i can contribute for you, i want to post a good kernel that i'm using and make the roms very stable, at least for me.

Another thing...

if i can suggest, you could insert in the next releases some app that auto-configurate the apn for the operator, and another languages, like portuguese (brazil...where i live... ;))...also Astro File Manager...it's just a suggest.

Thanks again for post the release, i'll keep contact to post more results.

Nice work.

:D

PS: The kernel posted in attach, is 2.6.25-01103
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
so i figured out how myn did it on his warm donut build with getting the wallpapers to show up in the launcher, im testing it now if this works it will be a work around till i can find a complete solution.

so it turns out how he got it into the launcher was by renaming it the same as one of the CM wallpapers in the launcher, but when attempting to do it myself his wallpaper worked but any of the ones i put in didnt work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] elander:
Hey warbyte, I´ve been wondering...is there a way to enable compcache in this build, I´d really love to "see it in action" and also, is jit available for donut, and if so, is it enable on this build, because this one is fast (rls2) and I have no issues (restart related) with it, so I guess I´m a lucky one. lol. thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
im not sure on the compcache but i do know the JIT is only on 2.0 and later
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] elander:
wow, that was fast, jeje, yes I realize I was asking too much from old trusty donut, but hey it was worth a shot asking, about compcache, I ran compcache.sh enable and it said "not found" and running free command gives a compcache value of zero so I believe it cannot be enable, but is it available for donut? what would one need in order to enable it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Hi!

I'm testing the rls 3, and don't have any error. I'ts fast and stable.

Market Place is working very well, and i have downloaded a lot of apps, wifi, bluetotth, camera, calls are working very well, specially the camera driver that have very good drivers.

For now,i think you can release this version as official release 3.

Thanks for all.

Great work. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Hey man! long time no see :) yeah you are a very lucky one if RLS 02 is running fine. I've been reading a lot so beware of some normal /data partition corruption when using Android as I see it is a kernel related thing that has been worked on but not completely eliminted. I'm running my candidate RLS 03 with /data on EXT2 with no problems so far, no performance hits (that I notice) and no messed up data after several restarts (8 so far).

In order to use compcache you need some drivers that need to be in the kernel that I havent found and do not know if they are in the kernel I am attaching. You also need a custom userinit.sh which should have:

-set compcache=1

-set cc_backingswap_en=0

-set linux_swap_en=0

-set cc_disksize=32 (32*1024 = 32768kb = 32MB)

-set cc_memlimit=0

This is for running compcache without any backing swap which is what I recommend if you ever get it enabled (if you manage to do so please let us all know).

You also need a custom user.conf that has:

compcache_en=1

cc_disksize=24

cc_backingswap_en=0

Most cyanogen builds have this under /system/sd but those I believe are Eclairs. I know this is supported in Donut because I once saw a video with someone running it on Donut. I just don't know where to put the files since this Donut builds (stock) have some userinit.conf under /system/etc which is the closest I have found.

I onced forced a Spare Parts that has the compcache enable/ disable thing but even though that was enabled, the swap showed nothing. I never had any other partition on my SD though, I do as of yesterday.

This is all the information I know. I've been trying to enable that for a very long time. Maybe we can all accomplish it :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Great! thanks a lot for testing that, appreciate it lots my friend. I will move the url to post #1.

As for wifi: A lot of it resides in three places: the controller, your lines enabling it and the kernel. The controller is that famous wlan.ko that I got updated from another fix that worked on most builds. The lines that enable it are in build.prop under /system if you check my .tar file they are at the end of the file. The kernel has a lot to do with it as it is the core of your system, different versions can enable, disable or have a faulty one. Please someone correct me if I am mistaken or has more info on this.

For apps: I would add them but I honestly don't know a way to automatically set up APN's I imagine they are way to many for all people and depending where they live. If you find an app I think I will definitely include it. My decision for not including any file manager is because we all like different things, I like root explorer, some others like Astro, others like Linda... this lets you add whatever you like. I prefer to out in my stuff instead of taking out what I don't like. I think it is a better approach and gives you less things to download. What we could do is have everybody favorite apps (make sure they're free) and we can kinda have the apps available as some sort of "update file" to push them to /data, just an idea.

I don't have a way to test your kernel but if you have edited it let me know what kind of setup it has:

-Device

-Build (Donut, Eclair, Froyo whatever value was set for this)

-Resolution

-Panel type

-Keyboard Settings

It would help a lot if we know what date and for what build it was originally made, that is usually in the name file (which I havent checked but I will).

When I get this info I will move it or link to it in post #1

Thanks a lot for sharing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Maybe a noobie question.

To insert more apps in .tar file i need just to edit it and insert the apps in /data/app or /system/app?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
yes, things that are loaded into /system are stuck there though as in they cant be easily uninstalled you would need to uninstall them with titanium backup or something, now things in /data and be easily uninstalled just a heads up
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
I'm very happy with the progress of Donut Repack. I'm learning more and more using and your releases.

For now, i'll read around the forum, ways to help more in the development of Donut repack.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Thanks man! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
The kernel i've posted is based in 2.6.25, builded for eclair,i think...because i have a folder with a lot of them. I have a folder named customRUU , where i insert the kernel that i'm using, depending the android build.

So, if i want to insert my native language, what type of file and where i can insert it?

Thanks ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Huh that is a question to which I do not know the answer. :) during my experiments with DRD36 I noticed the AOSP release supported "most" languages. I didn't see anything radically different in their file structure. I will take a look and see if I can find where it is. I don't know if languages is something that is easily added but if I find out something I will def. let you know. Maybe someone else knows something about it and gives us some feedback?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
RLS03

Release 03 is out! Please check post #1 :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xtr3m3:
Just set release 03 up, and have been using it for an hour or so. Also been playing a little tetris. :D

I have noticed this one is a little slow for me (could just be for me.)

I had OCed at 460MHz in release 02, but for release 03, I've got it at 520MHz.. Not sure if it is safe.. I haven't had my Kaiser for long, so please advise. Thanks.

Overall, it seems to be better, as I've probably restarted around 5 times and nothing seems to be corrupt, including wallpaper. Will keep testing :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Awesome. Well if you ask me, I've been feeling each release a little faster, might be just an illusion of installing something fresh on the device. I truly believe the apps are more stable though. Where are you noticing it being slow? any widget or any app? or just overall?

On another note I have never overclocked my device. I learned long ago overclocking an old (new and and a badass at the time) nvidia card, it ran fine but over time it started showing little white dots, then polygons and ultimately graphical glitches till it died painfully. The lesson here is that overclocking makes your device faster while also making it wear as fast due to components working outside of their specs, you also increase voltage which induces heat (not that much or even noticeable but you do) and might experience some weird behavior depending on what you run on it. In the case of video cards is memory that gets worn, in the case of processors you might experience data loss or corruption, in the case of the almighty Kaiser who knows :) I wouldn't overclock to more than 450.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xtr3m3:
Thanks for your advice. I have experienced similar problems on an old ati graphics card too..

As for the slow behaviour.. it was the new weather widget (the one with the htc clock.) I thought I'd have it on to remember my days from last year of having a htc diamond.. (which I had to sell due to the financial crisis disaster :rolleyes:)

Anyway, I have turned the widget off and OCed at 430MHz now, and it seems to be fine. Also, I forgot to mention this.. release 02 was great with the battery, hopefully it will be the same with release 03.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
You're welcome. I tried the widget for a while and didn't cause me any problem, probably didnt use it for too long, not really a fan of the digital clocks. lol We're all at that point sometimes, and video cards are easy to sell. I have experienced pretty much the same battery behavior with RLS03. I commented before on that but didnt get any feedback because I experienced a dramatic change from RLS01 to RLS02 in battery. I had to recharge my phone during the day, which I never did with RLS02 I must also admit ever since we got the updated lib I've been having my phone fixed on G2 and G3 only when needed.

Thanks a lot for testing :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gigiuno:
i've been using your build (release 1&2) for about ten days with the last 2.6.25 kernel release and i've seen (compared to myn's warm donut) :

- a good stability, just a couple of reboots when the market is under heavy load

- pretty fast reaction to incoming and outgoing calls, no issues when closing a call

- better battery management, seems to last a bit longer and the battery gauge level appears pretty correct

- recent calls menu is still sluggish when opening

in my opinion is a really good work!

ps: i suggest to add a date to the thread title to have a quick notice when the first post is update
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelotorres:
Just a tip...

Exploring android distro's (.tar files), opening this with winrar ou something like that, you can get the .apk files that come with every distro.

Maybe some apps doesn't work on a different version of OS, but it's just a tip...

Try to extract the file and install on your device.... ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
did you do anything special to stop the data issue on reboot?

some of the users of my build are having it happen, i havent had the issue so i almost wonder if its kernel related
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Awesome! I am glad it's working that well. I havent had any issues with market, instead I do get it frozen but it is because my service provider is really crappy, I mean it, it would get 3G for 1 second, then drop it, then pick it up, then keep it for 5 seconds, switch to Edge, drops with no service... this happens randomly but when it does and switches a lot, then the phone app seems to hang after an hour of so of constant changes, would no longer pick anything up and even airplane mode would not engage :) but I kind of understand it, it's like the app where saying "You know what? I'm tired of this and I give up! I've had enough of you".

Three days so far, countless restarts and still no /data corruption. That is making me extremely happy.

The thread now has a date, thanks for the tip and your feedback, that's a very smart thing to do that I totally missed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
Yeap, that's how that works :) and that's how your widget was gotten. Most apps work just fine, unless they are made specifically for 2+ which means they will not run on Donut.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WarByte:
No man, just got the widget into the package and I was done. Just tested it a couple times. I'll set it up right now and test. What issue where you experiencing on your release?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thoughtlesskyle:
I loaded all the apps that they said they were having problems with some apps the one was messaging and I loaded like 1000 messages in which is more than the apps limits are set for it took a little while to load at first I deleted some then had no issues

I think its kernel related as I didn't have the issue with the old kernel