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[EVO 4G Android Development] scoobdude:
Got everything working on htcsense.com as well, but phone still shows locked on their site but not on my phone and it looks like I am in Africa?. oh well

Zippy, thanks for the great port. I did want to mention i found another bug, when powersave mode goes on it will disconnect wifi with the option "turn off wifi if not connected to a wifi network" checked. Maybe i am not reading it right, but thought i would bring it to your attention.

Last but not least, i read this entire thread but did not find any mention of landscape home screens. Is that included in this rom and do i need to enable it somehow?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jobryan26:
Couldn't the app space be used on the sdcard?

No pressure, Eman and I were just having some friendly rivalry. :) We all appreciate all of the work and effort you have put into this rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
What do you mean no pressure! Lots of pressure. You are like the only person developing this thing for the EVO right now so there is a lot riding on you. Don't ever sit back and take it lightly, you need to go at it full force and get this done in a zippy time!!!!!!!!!!

J/K of course.......Well not really, but I have to say that so you keep trying. lol

We should get a bounty up for a working camera on this Rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kshelton:
Or we can just be patient because he does this for free and in his spare time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] hoopsdavis:
Has anyone experienced issues with call waiting.

I was on one call, and another call came in, I put the first call on hold. after I finished with the second call I was unable to return back to the first call.

Give it a try
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
I totally understand he does this for free in his spare time, as everyone on this site does. There are so many people on this site that are here all day long, and while not everyone is developing things, we are helping each other out for free in our spare time. So we all contribute in way or another.

This is also why I said we should start a bounty for the camera. Maybe if we can come up with a nice amount of money, we would be paying for his time and it would show our appreciation for it.

I always donate to developers that go above and beyond and are responsive to everyone's questions. That is how I say thank you to them and show my appreciation for there work and time they devote to this....
[EVO 4G Android Development] jobryan26:
Speaking of helping...it seems the HTC Hub wallpapers doesn't work but if you access it thru "menu>wallpaper>HTC wallpapers>Get more" it does. If anyone wants to check it out. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrmomoman:
I think many people are put off my bounties as the past experiences have shown it not to be a great way to contribute as a community to the developer.

I have seen where some people donate and then almost "demand" something for their contribution. If you donate then you donate for the current hardwork that the Developers put out so far not donate in hopes of getting what you want done. Believe me the $10 contribution does not earn anyone a right to ask for hours of his time. I am sure he makes more than that in his real job :)

Zippy has done an incredible job for Alpha and I am sure many good things are on the way. I think you will see many more donate as the ROM becomes more functional such as camera and 4G. I think HDMI is not a show stopper for a majority of the people.

Keep up the great work Zippy and take a break from all of this so that you can continue to enjoy what you do as a hobby and not feel like it's a full time job.

Zippy - I noticed that the Exchange Mail accounts are setup as 15mins sync times instead of push?/activesync. I have tested this and its true. The email is a sync not a push. Have you noticed that?

For anyone out there. Has anyone been successful in setting up HOTMAIL to active sync? I get to the naming the account and it won't set up. It lets me put in all the server info, etc and then when it asks to name the account and I push next it says it cannot create the account.

Otherwise - the wallpapers are awesome as well as the scenes. I like metal and slate a lot. The widgets are cool as well. HTC has really steppep up their game with the HTC HUB. I like marking an item and having it pushed to the phone.

I can't wait to see how well developed the HTC HUB community will become!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrmomoman:
Strange - I was able to log in to the web HTCsense.com and mark the wallpaper and I got a notice to download the wallpaper. It's really nice. I did that for some apps as well.

Now if only I can really know if the contacts will sync to the online HUB or not. It shows all my contacts but I wonder if it backs it up.
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
First off, a bounty is given after the request is fullfilled so your statement of demanding something after a donation has nothing even to do with what I said.

As far as my $10 contribution, everyone in this site is technically asking for things, I think that is the point of these forums isn't it? The last time I checked we were aloud to make requests to developers and that did not qualify as being demanding to anyone.

And my $10 plus another 20 or so users $10 adds up. Not in a way so we can be demanding but in a way to say thank you for the time you have put into this.

Zippy, as others seem to be arguing non valid points in reference to my posts, please don't take there stupid opinions as mine. I appreciate everything you have done with this Rom and the time you dedicate towards it. I am not demanding anything but only trying to raise some money for your efforts and time.

I am sorry to mrmomoman that my $10 contribution is not enough for you so maybe since he is so liquid he can pay the difference of what he feels should be paid. I am sure my $10 is a lot more then others give who still run there mouth and give absolutely nothing.....
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sporkman:
i hope this doesn't turn in to another pissing contest
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Well I am done.....For some reason I felt the need to defend myself for offering some money to the developer which I never had to do before....

Moving on, can someone post what htcsense.com is all about. Is there things to download for your device on there, or is it mainly to just backup things and stuff like that? Is it run from your computer or is it linked to the phone? If it runs for the computer, can things be used with the old Sense as well or they will only work with the new one?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jobryan26:
HTCSense.com just officially went live so now we might really know what works and what doesn't in the ports. :)

http://www.htcsource.com/2010/10/htc-launches-the-new-htcsense-com/
[EVO 4G Android Development] jobryan26:
Go to www.htcsense.com and signup if you haven't it's free. :) It's kind of like the "market", "lookout", "chrome to phone", and "miqlive" apps all rolled up into one.
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Don't know if it is my work computer or the site itself, but the page won't load. It just stays on a black screen.

So are any of the features compatible with the old Sense or is it completely for the new one?

***Won't load in my phone browser either...Just stuck on loading
[EVO 4G Android Development] jobryan26:
Yeah, it's been up and down since last night. Yes, everything is backed up to your HTC Sense online account from what I can tell. I know it restored my text messages and etc last night after a wipe. I have to be honest I am already hooked on the new Sense. Thanks again Zippy!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jobryan26:
Humm, site is still working for me. It is for the new Sense. All of the features are so integrated into the new Sense I can't imagine HTC releasing an equal app for the older Sense UI but I guess it's possible. Considering Gingerbread on the horizon, I'd say this is HTC's answer for that. Curious to see where this is going... I love that us EVO users can enjoy all of this now thanks to the awesome dev's here on xda.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Is there anyway to get rid of the battery percentage in the battery icon? i just searched battery in this thread and all that I find are posts talking about battery life...
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Thank you!

Man, why would you want to do that?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mele:
Cool White Circle Battery Icon and Skins here for HD Rom:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=791414
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpkimmel:
there is a new HD dump that is faster than Z...posted on twitter...guess we'll see what happens...
[EVO 4G Android Development] zippy-man:
Ha just came here to post about that. I am downloading now will have a look when I get of work.

I hope for the best :)

Sent from my Sprint Htc Evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] Veritas06:
Sounds great! Can't wait to check it out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpkimmel:
where did you grab the new hd dump from..
[EVO 4G Android Development] zippy-man:
I loaded up the 1.24.405.1 and it is faster and HTC hub works better with htcsense.com but there are features that are missing.

One of the ones most important to me is the % of battery in the taskbar. Along with mobile network settings not working and the loss of 6 signal bars.

I almost got the 6 signal working but have yet to look at mobile network settings.

So there are ups and downs.

I am going to look at the new dump and hope that it gets some of the lost features back.

Me I want it all speed, functionality and I don't want to loose features.

I let you guys know what I find in the new dump tonight.

Sent from my Sprint Htc Evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] zippy-man:
The ruu is in the desire hd forums.

I will download the ruu and extract the rom from it when I get home. Then get it booting on the Evo.

Sent from my Sprint Htc Evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] stoney05:
sweet! your rom is awsome man ive been using it for a few days now with netachys universal kernel.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpkimmel:
let me know if you want some help/testing
[EVO 4G Android Development] kevinniven:
nice

I like this rom more and more each day!
[EVO 4G Android Development] mrmomoman:
Eman - I think you misread my intent on the post. Bounties have not been well recieved due to those who start it cannot get others to come up with the contribution when its time. So I just said that continued donations to Zippee's progress is a better approach. If you are not one of those people who donate and then asks for "extra" attention then you should not be offended by what I said. We donate because we enjoy and respect the time and energy that is put into these ROMS and the Devs do it really because they enjoy it. Money should never be their incentive because that will end up with an unfinished ROM and bounties seems to give some people the idea that they can push the Devs and they can't and shouldn't.

Sporkman - where's my beer?

I am using this as my Daily. I just hope that PUSH/ActiveSync is corrected in the next release for Exchange. Strange how it doesn't push.

It gets better and better with HTC lately.
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
No problem, I just didn't want anyone thinking that was my intention and I was here to demand anything. I for one am totally appreciative of what these guys do and Zippy is doing an amazing job with this Rom.

I always like to donate once the product is useable to me. I know my contribution will not pay anyone's mortgage, but I am sure they appreciate anything they get.

It is actually bothersome that some of the Devs here are only releasing there Roms now to donators. It is so not what XDA has always stood for and also changes the meaning of a donation!

One of my reasons for getting the EVO was to have a decent camera with me at all times to take pictures of my son that was born in August. I tried this Rom out yesterday, just to check out the new Sense and I loved it! Even contimplated on keeping it on there for a bit and not having any pics of my son for the next few weeks......Um, does that make me a bad parent, lol...:(
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpkimmel:
new HD dump of rom is out..i'm sure (if i heard right) all issues should get worked out now.....just give it time..like anything else that is new problems problems problems, but we always work them out....
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
So are these dumps still not what is on the shipped device? I get confused when there are new dumps out there. Once the device is out, isn't that the official release unless it gets an update?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kshelton:
Exciting news! I really like this rom thanks for your work Zippy. I wish I knew how to do all this stuff.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpkimmel:
They can be, some are imcomplete, you just get themes and some system files, but other are complete dumps from the ruu..which is straight from the source....
[EVO 4G Android Development] zippy-man:
Well the version you are running now is a debug test version from HTC.

Then we got word that an update was out going from .15 to .24 and it was signed by HTC with release keys which means no longer a test version but a release version. But HTC does last minute changes so now we have word of yet a newer version with release keys. So in reality the newest version may not actually be final. No one actually knows until the device is released and the Rom version is checked or dumped.

The versions we have are internal leaks that some lucky person was able to get a hold of.

But with the release soon I imagine that the newest version is final since they don't have to much time to change things now they are probably preparing for mass shipments to all the retailers if this thing is supposed to be out next week or something.

But again HTC could surprise us again with a newer last minute version.

Sent from my Sprint Htc Evo 4g
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Thanks for clearing that up!
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Auto sync is the killer. I just now had to go into power saver mode. I'm still using my phone so I just turned on what I needed...apparently auto sync is a rapist. Because I've been on 19% for the longest time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sporkman:
so hows the mms and camera coming on this sorry im a little out of it
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
camera not working. mms working.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sporkman:
cam still being a PITA i see
[EVO 4G Android Development] eman3316@optonline.net:
Can we not say camera anymore in this thread until it is working....I keeps making me cry every time I see that word in here followed by not working....
[EVO 4G Android Development] sac23:
Can we not say camera anymore in this thread until it is working....I keeps making me cry every time I see that word in here followed by not working

loooll thats funny
[EVO 4G Android Development] androidn2evo:
I feel the same way! Very nice rom:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] jxr94:
How is the KingXKernel #7 in the updater on battery life?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpkimmel:
Camera, camera, camera..damn my candyman theory didn't work out..
[EVO 4G Android Development] MagnusRagnarok:
im crying too...because i dont know enough to get the damn thing working for us...awesome job on this zippy, im still waiting for it. nice script though for the data wipe. very good idea, i should have incorporated one with lines for data wipe a few times now...
[EVO 4G Android Development] zer0-1ne:
htc sense website is up and running

its up, the site. you guys with the desire hd rom can go check it out.

https://www.htcsense.com/
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
Just got something to say about the battery....Have y'all noticed how hard it is to drain the battery when it's in power saving mode? I mean that's common sense, it shouldn't drain that fast while in power saving mode...but if you look at the options, those options are already things we do. Turning off 3G while WiFi is on and vice versa. The main difference is auto sync. Idk if this is the same for y'all but everytime I unlock the screen, the phone syncs and is constantly syncing while the phone is on, which kills the battery. The other versions of Sense did the same thing, but HTCSense seems like it might be more demanding.

Maybe turning off AutoSync will give us crazy battery life, my phone just died so I'm going to try that. All I know is that after I hit 20% my battery lasted another 5 1/2 hours, and that's with the same usage (usage: using the browser like anyone would use a browser on a laptop/desktop, sending 4-5 text messages every other minute..stuff like that). I turned WiFi back on and just kept autosync, animations, vibrations and GPS ( I always keep GPS off) off as soon as it hit powersaver mode.

This was also not done with the stock kernel, I'm using netarchy's 4.1.9.1 CFS stable version with setCPU. Screen off with setCPU was 245

max/min

edit: Also other things about my set up: I was using the stock keyboard, so sending those messages was real quick. As soon as i unlocked I went right at the messages, sent them, then immediately turned it off (because I was still thinking my battery would be dying real quick).

I was using a live wallpaper (the second option in the list of wallpapers that lets you see a new image every time you go to your homescreen)

Brightness was on 60% and screen timeout was 30seconds.

My battery is the stock battery.

Just wanted to list out what I was using so y'all will have a better understanding of my setup and the resulting drain after power saving was enabled. Had to clear it up, because most people when talking about their battery only say "light,medium,heavy usage" but one person's heavy could be someone else's medium usage...so there's that disconnect.
[EVO 4G Android Development] hoopsdavis:
kshelton, the setcpu settings you mentioned with screen off, is that the only profile you have set in setcpu?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jxr94:
Whats making it sync all the time is Htc sense! lol the setting by default is "as things change"
[EVO 4G Android Development] T Mac:
That makes some good sense. LOL I also noticed how often, and also how long the phone would sync. Much more than standard sense roms. Keep us informed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MsSarcastic:
Voicemail

Is anyone else not able to access voicemail with this ROM?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
idk if that was directed towards me or not...I know it says "kshelton" but his post didn't say anything about setCPU so i'll answer....

Yeah it's the only profile I have set up, and that's the only profile I ever set up. I dont mess with temperature because I live in Texas and I walk a couple of miles each day because of the bus, so there's no doubt my phone will get hot. The last thing I want to do is slow down the processor because of the heat, if I did that, I might as well just underclock it all the time.

Also, I remember someone talking about how underclocking doesn't necessarily save the battery when you use a kernel with HAVS, because HAVS lowers the voltage to prevent the battery drain anyways, so you're just underclocking for no reason. I'm talking about underclocking to something in the range that's less than 1ghz but more than 768. I experimented with those ranges and got the same result battery drain wise. But of course 245 will save battery, the phone is barely alive at that point.
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
Change audible touch tones to long under sound settings.
[EVO 4G Android Development] MsSarcastic:
ignore this post
[EVO 4G Android Development] hoopsdavis:
Sorry, you're correct that question should have been directed at you. I appreciate the answer and the assist. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
No problem :D

edit: turned on my phone..it's at 93%...lets see where it goes from here...
[EVO 4G Android Development] hoopsdavis:
OK, let me know. I duplicated your settings. I also put HTC Sense and Htc Hub sync settings to 6 hours. I think that's our drainage issue, the frequent sync time of Sense and the Hub.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
aiight, im going to see where I stand at midnight.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jxr94:
If i disable htcsense sync during the day, what exactly would i be missing out on?
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
You personally wouldn't be missing out on any features on your phone. But your account on HTCSense.com will be missing out. That feature syncs your contacts and messages and whatnot. Not really necessary, plus the messages section on their website is balls. It has an option to compose messages, can't do that with the phone off, it only sends them as soon as you turn them on.

Also if you turn off the sync, you lose the phone finder option, basically, you will lose the sync between your phone and that website. Something you never had before this rom, so it's not really a big thing to lose.
[EVO 4G Android Development] casual864:
Wow, I just got 13 hours off my Evo with this rom! To bad I couldn't take a screen shot before it died. I was on the phone at 4% then it died. Great battery life though. (If you tweak it right) :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] TheDoctor1971:
I've got HTC sync back on push and I'm at 81% after 7+ hours with moderate use.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kevinniven:
update

Did i read we are getting an update soon?
[EVO 4G Android Development] plmiller0905:
So basically Htc Sense/Sync is whats killing the battery so quick on this rom?

I guess I'll flash this again and turn HTC Sense off and see how my batter life is then.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ms79723:
hm, with WiFi always on, from when i posted till now i've gone from 93% to 56% with my everyday use. Not really that accurate for me because I dont use WiFi during the day since i'm always walking outside. Also didn't get a full charge so idk how much of a factor tha would play, but that 37% drop was kinda what i expected with this rom from the beginning so idk...the drop isn't as steady as it was in the first place, but thats because i remembered later on that i still had some things checked.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kshelton:
I posted earlier I thought I was getting good battery life. I just realized its because I didn't have HTC sync setup.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pitmanr2003:
Anyone getting fc by location app. Mine does it alot
[EVO 4G Android Development] stoney05:
best rom

im getting pretty decent battery with HTC sync turned off , stocks off, news off and weather set to update every hour.

yesterday i had it unplugged for about 11 hours and i had about 40 something percent left before i plugged it in.

Im using the netarchy's universal kernel without setcpu installed

i cant wait for an update i dont even want to use another rom now. thanks getting this running on the evo
[EVO 4G Android Development] TheDoctor1971:
Once the initial sync is completed I don't see HTC Sync draining the battery all that much. I've been unplugged for about 10 hours now and I'm only at 65%. I have HTC sync set to "push". At this rate I could make it 20 hours easy. Once the camera works I'll be one happy camper.
[EVO 4G Android Development] quietpopcorn:
This rom is awesome. My only complaint, like many others, is the camera. Once that's fixed, I'll be switching over as a daily driver. Keep up the fantastic work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] timothydoanpham:
is anyone getting fc in the market i'm getting all the apps that i had on my phone originally and i'm trying to stop it from getting a few apps that i no longer use, but when i click on it for it to cancel download i get a fc. >_<
[EVO 4G Android Development] 1Brite1:
Thanks! Just what I was looking for!