yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
ha looks like I missed something here? what post number shall I refer to?
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
then

should be today with me :D

honestly like a little boy waiting for the Christmas present :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
here :)

also postie just been to home (the van not normal postie) and no phone, so it best be coming to work....
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I see at least 3 people here are expecting delivery today? :-D
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
i was expecting it yesterday after getting my dispatched email wednesday :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
I can get one today but it wont be on T-Mob & My contact in my local T-Mob shop (the manager) has told me that they are NOT getting the Desire Z at all.

Maybe its time to switch to o2?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
wow that doesn't look good does it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Why not just get it from an independent shop that will do you a deal on a DZ with a T-Mobile contract ? You don't have to buy it from T-Mobile to get it on T-Mobile.
[G2 and Desire Z General] p3eps:
I was expecting it yesterday since superEtrader fed me a pile of poop with their 'dispatched' email... but I'm now expecting it today.

I'm not holding my breath though - as I can see it being Monday if its UPS as they don't have an Aberdeen base. Fingers crossed its Citylink or someone else!
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I'm a happy O2 customer, 3 years. Broadband package: 7.5GB for 16 Euro. 1GB = 12 Euro.

I'm only worried that they might not have switched HSPA+ on yet in Ireland.
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
Phonecall from HTC

Hey,

Couldn't believe my ears...

I recieved a phone call from HTC NL!!!

They heared i wasn't glad with them. And they wanted to know more of that.

So i explained them the 'lack of communication'. And they'll check what they can do at it...

ok, still don't have my phone (no change in delivery time here in Belgium), but HTC listen to their customers!

Let's hope that they now really listen... :rolleyes:
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
My delivery is now on FedEx vehicle for delivery! :-D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dazmck10:
With delivery courier	DUBLIN - IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF	08:29

Yey, hope I get it today!
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
Im currently in a Contract so will have to buy myself out & i cant afford to do that, if i could i would just buy a Sim free one!

Ive made the plunge, I need this phone in my life so im switching to o2!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
.....Source?

Edit: I literally can't find mention of this anywhere.

Edit2: In fact the only place that seems to offer the Desire Z on Vodafone this early is Expansys, the cynic in me suggests two scenarios:

1) Expansys are rubbish at updating their site, one product manager for Vodafone updating their section and another for HTC not updating theirs.

2) Expansys have a special deal with Vodafone to push their contracts

Other places that are also HTC partners (Mobilephonesdirect) are not offering the same quick delivery.

Handtec are suggesting stock next week.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Whats the closest reliable web store for Ireland? I don't want to be waiting for UK stores only because Verizon has great offer. (I'm with O2 and want unlocked phone)

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[G2 and Desire Z General] simbloke:
Well, that's not very nice of them, especially since I'm buying one with a Vodafone SIM card (from eXpansys) :(
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
expansys.de qwerty listed with 18th Oct...

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[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
There are two possibilities:

1. Expansys is out of money and wants to make money cheating on release dates and confusing all of us (apart from UK);

2. Expansys wants to give the exclusive to Vodafone UK in UK, so it's delaying 'till 30 October in UK only.

Seeing that Expansys isn't a little webshop and that they're selling products all over the world, I don't think that they'll put **** on their name with the first possibility.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
Do Vodafone even have the exclusive rights to this phone? When you see places like MobilePhonesDirect selling the phone on O2 and T-Mobile, does this mean they're selling Sim-free phones with a separate contract that they themselves have bundled together?
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I can see some UK eBay sellers selling Desire Z, they all say awaiting stock on 18th which is just in 2-3 days...

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[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Show me non-UK stores actually listing Desire Z (except Amazon and Expansys) and having non delayed date.

Let's see the germans (via heise.de) :

Mindfactory - 11.11.2010

Comuland - 11.11.2010

vibuonline - 11.11.2010

DriveCity - 11.11.2010

HandyFlash - week 44 (last week of October)

handyattack - november 2010

talkthisway, ACODE, redcoon, hoh, cyberport, xitra - no date

Whatever, not delayed, right. Seems like the european launch date was november anyway, so yeah, they are not delayed :). Except if you want the phone sooner, it's still better to get it from delayed UK launch, as this delayed launch will be sooner than the non-delayed European launch.
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
Isn't because QWERTZ keyboard? Look at expansys.fr

http://www.expansys.fr/s.aspx?search=HTC Desire Z

- 30 Oct but if U look at details it's AZERTY version. Desire Z QWERTY keyboard release date is 18 Oct
[G2 and Desire Z General] faugusztin:
Show me then a QWERTY EU phone from other shop than Expansys, they handle release dates as something really unimportant. And you end up with... nothing.

So i ask again - show me non-UK stores actually listing Desire Z (except Amazon and Expansys) and having a October release date. Then you can talk about "exclusive to Vodafone UK" thing.

Right now it looks more like a waiting game for everyone, including mobile operators, and there is no such thing as "exlusive for some operator" in this case. I know you want to blame someone for the delay, but the one to blame is HTC. I'm pretty sure the 11th Oct. date was not everyones imagination, but the original date the phones should have been launched, and they all got delayed because of HTC, not because of some telco which bought up all the phones in UK.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
Well, we'll know the truth tomorrow!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Magicorolla:
http://www.pdashop.be/product/107573/htc-desire-z-qwerty.html

Verwachte leverdatum:

27-10-2010

Very reliable webshop
[G2 and Desire Z General] muminisko:
http://www.htcdesirez.net/nieuws/verwachte-leverdatum-htc-desire-z/

BTW It seems that the Desire HD has already begun shipping:

http://www.htcdesire-hd.nl/nieuws/htc-desire-hd-gelanceerd-in-nederland/
[G2 and Desire Z General] ale58:
today expansys updated release dates

for europe (from expansys local sites)

---------------

22-10

pl,pt,es,cz,se,fi,nl,gr,it,es (QWERTY)

---------------

30-10

uk,ie (QWERTY)

fr (AZERTY)

---------------

11-11

de (QZERTY)

at,ch (QWERTZ)
[G2 and Desire Z General] kholk:
Yeah, seen that :(

Anyway, now I think that Expansys is anticipating release dates only because they need money (obviously faking release dates they'll presell more).

It's highly possible that they'll get it on October 30, so that we'll get it in November.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Yea, that's why I didn't cancel my preorder with Clove. Still waiting...
[G2 and Desire Z General] snudel:
i dont think they fake it.

i guess they are taking some unofficial dates and post them.

in the end, we are just too freaky about that phone :)

you all can be lucky. i have to wait till 11-11 since i am a kraut.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Roachie:
In the NL :

http://www.pdashop.nl/product/107573/htc-desire-z-qwerty.html

27 Oct.. was on that date since the beginning.. and most of the time trustworthy
[G2 and Desire Z General] Becksman:
I really don't buy your argument. I had a conversation with the HTC Customer Support (Germany) earlier this month and they first told me, that the Desire Z would be released on 11 October. When the online stores started to push back the delivery date and I came back to them, they told me that the delivery had been delayed. Additionally they mentioned, that expansys has pretty up to date infos and I could pretty much rely on their updates (I did not refer them to expansys, but the support came up with the suggestion to check their website).

So I would be careful with your assertions...

Regards,

Becksman
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
I see Handtec have pushed their date to "The week commencing 25th Oct". I am sure they are just doing it to suck in more pre-orders. Clove appear to have been more accurate from the start.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
Depending on how long there is to go in your contract, some shops will offer to buy you out of your contract. There's going to be a cost for you to upgrade, I imagine, even from T-Mobile if they'd have done the DZ themselves.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
My package has just been delivered to mailroom downstars! :-D That's from Clove in UK delivered to Ireland in just 22 hours.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
They might simply follow this thread too ;-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] penguin20000:
it's here it's here! the other half just txt me saying it's been delivered :D now i need to make the day go quicker... :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] Lennyuk:
Well my wait goes on....
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
I got mine this morning from www.mobiles.co.uk - and I only ordered it yesterday at 17:15pm!

I couldn't wait for MPD 'cos they couldn't guarantee. I couldn't risk having no phone for a whole month whilst abroad. Although when I spoke to them about cancelling it, the MPD guy said to me they would dispatch it today (I probably would have recieved it Monday) but nevermind, I got it now!

Excellent communications and constant updates from mobiles.co.uk - great.
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
I believe they do :-)

same here :-)

btw. we do write a lot about waiting time for delivery, delays and customer experience with good or bad customer service which is provided from our resellers.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Dazmck10:
Just received it now, the phone is downright sexy!

uk to ireland in 18 hours!!!!!

Class 2 8gb micro sdcard
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
Congratulations you got your phone.

You have encouraged me by your report here on mobiles.co.uk. I expect to get mine tomorrow because I placed my order rather late last evening (about 6.20pm).

I couldn't put up with MPD. They are poor communicators and don't tell the truth.

mobiles.co.uk communicate really well as they keep you posted on the current step they have taken towards fulfilling your order.
[G2 and Desire Z General] vinokirk:
This is my second order from MPD and I've had no problems either time :) With MPD I got the phone for free, on mobiles.co.uk I see the same deal is £80
[G2 and Desire Z General] wrapper:
Got mine this morning, loving it! Worth the wait.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
I think web stores who lied on shipping/delivery dates should be degraded of Ultimate HTC Partner. Like those who emailed "order shipped" while it wasn't shipped, in hope the customer doesn't cancel and order with other store.

Sorry but it's just not "Ultimate" excellence level we would expect.
[G2 and Desire Z General] hamish909:
Which deals on mobiles.co.uk and MPD are you referring to?
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
For what it's worth, mobiles.co.uk are part of The Carphone Warehouse (large UK high street retailer, for those who don't know).
[G2 and Desire Z General] vinokirk:
I went for the 'T-Mobile £35 mobile internet' with MPD, which gives 600 mins, Unlimited texts and 1GB Internet for £35/m on an 18 months contract and the phone was free.

The closest tarrifs I can find on mobiles.co.uk are

Text 600

18 months

600 Mins, Unlimited Texts £30/m and the phone is £79.99

Web 900

18 months

900 Mins , 500 Texts, Unlimited internet £35/m and the phone is £49.99
[G2 and Desire Z General] KarlosTheJackal:
I think im in love with Carphone Warehouse! They have told me that they can upgrade my contract with T-Mob & i can get the Desire Z for free!!

Only downside is i have to wait until December 11th, But i figure I've waited since October 4th so another month cant hurt! XD

I'm a happy boy now! XD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Double g:
Mpd website says order before 4pm for next day delivery!

so they are either lying to potential new orders or are screwing those with preorders if they are not going to get theirs until tuesday. either way they are a joke and i agree with the previous post that said companies like this should be stripped of their 'ultimate partner' status as it just makes htc look bad for giving them that special right.
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
As one of the prorderers from MPD, I would be furious if people who ordered today got the phone before me ( I ordered on October 13th)!!!

I wrote a long email to MPD expressing my concerns over the lack of information given and being lied to about the phone being in stock when it wasn't, and unlike several of the replies I've seen posted here from Laura (or Lauren was it?) the Online customer services representative, I got a response from the Customer Services managed, profusely apologising, along with a promise to personally contact me today to inform me about the progress of my order...I'm still waiting for that contact today.

Once I have my phone, I am very tempted to forward copies of the email and responses onto HTC so they can see exactly how some of their Ultimate Partners treat customers!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Double g:
I received same email saying pkease dont cancel. so rang number at bottom, i refuse to ring 0845 number as they get around 5p a min from us for keeping us on hold. i missed deadline to order from mobiles.co.uk for delivery this week - damned work-so decided i'm gonna wait a couple of weeks to see how everyone feels about it after the exitement has worn off.

anyway her message said i would be made priority for monday delivery, so when i queried why the web site said order before 4 for sat delivery but i was only being offered monday the lady on other end said she didn't know and cust service manager would call me back. told her if no call back by 3 to cancel it, not holding my breath lol
[G2 and Desire Z General] Stellios:
Got mine this morning. I see what people mean by the loose hinge, but to be fair its hardly a big deal as ive hardly found it an irritation as like people say you need to hodl it at a strange angle to make the effects clear.

The keyboard is lovely to type on adn I liek that you can enable spell correction with it as it makes things a lot faster. Just ran quadrant and got 1500 out of the box.

I really have to say I cannot praise Clove enough, ordered yesterday morning and in my hand this morning, top notch service on their behalf.
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Check out my sig ;-) This keyboard	is is not as good as TP2, is soooo slow to type. Maybe I will get used to it.

Sent from Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
got mine, delivered today, lest then 20h from france to poland :-)

phone at home ... I am at work ... 2 more hours and will put my hands on it!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Can you please explain your problems with it in a little more detail? I'd like an opinion from someone who used a keyboard that is as good as the TP2 keyboard.
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
From France?

I'm next to France (Belgium).

Why didn't i get no shippment confirmation from pdashop.be?

Last time i every order there something... pffff....

Maybe i'll drive towards France this weekend.

2~3 hour drive, or maybe in 1 week shipment?

hmmm.... hard to choose...
[G2 and Desire Z General] filippoz:
Yeap,

so it is even less then 20h
[G2 and Desire Z General] invasion13:
Hi,

you are lucky, because i complained also to French HTC support about availibility and that early adopters will be those will show(:-) ) their desire Z to their friends family and colleagues and so will recommand that product or another brand(by desapointment or weariness).

HTC replied "Desire Z 's been available since the 15th October in france please ask suppliers" so i replied back them "it's NOT already available(1st november) please give me credible or reliable info" and they just said "we have no further info !!!"
[G2 and Desire Z General] brononi:
Damned, 9h drive... That's a bit far... :mad:
[G2 and Desire Z General] invasion13:
In France the azerty shouldnt be available before the 22th nov(pixmania via expansys) or the 17th rue du commerce, not seen yesterday also in Phonehouse/Car wharehouse retail shops in Marseille

Something perhaps explaining the delays, there was a general strike, in France, and the Marseille harbour (huge port for goods) was stuck at least 3 weeks(it seems to have ended last week), and container ships were stuck also in the offing, perhaps with htc goods
[G2 and Desire Z General] schriss:
Well, keys seem smaller than on TP2 despite only 4 rows, probably because more buttons or some buttons longer (like space).

And on Desire are are more flat, and feel like soft rubber keys, while were hard on TP2 and were sticking out higher and you could easily tell when key is pressed. Here, because of added key softeness and they barely stick out above the surface, I don't feel confident yet and need to recheck the screen often to make sure I pressed hard enough.

But remember I was using TP2 keyboard every day, so it's obvious it's difficult to suddenly switch to other one.

I tend to use onscreen keyboard for now :-( Need to force myself to use hardware keyboard because that was the reason I didn't get HD. I hope Tab key will be useful for Username/Password entries. Also pressing FN twice makes it easy to enter longer number.

The pad is useful when need to move cursor up/down or left/right, it does it in small steps (1 char, 1 line per tab touch)
[G2 and Desire Z General] mk27:
Right, i've cancelled my order with MPD and gone with Mobiles.co.uk with the same contract but overall £5 more expensive.

I think it's worth it since it's a better retailer and i'll get the phone quicker :)

Here's hoping for a saturday delivery.
[G2 and Desire Z General] xspyda:
Has anyone received their Z from Amazon UK yet? Here is part of an email I have received from them today:

"The estimated dispatch date for this order is November 5, 2010. However, please be informed that due to some discrepancies in receiving the stock from the supplier, we are unable to dispatch this order as promised on November 5, 2010"

None too impressed!
[G2 and Desire Z General] john boot:
I also used to have a TP2 and yes the TP2 keyboard is better simply due to bigger keys in my opinion (TP2 keys are wider).. however its quite easy to get used to the Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z General] AgaZaKa:
Did anyone receive second package form Superetrader with accessories? I stayed at work longer but no one showed up. Maybe it was sent by RM and won't be coming today at all?
[G2 and Desire Z General] vinokirk:
How much was the actual phone on the mpd and mobils.co.uk tarrifs?
[G2 and Desire Z General] valve90210:
Just logged into my MPD account and my order status is now saying, ready for dispatch, ,I might get my phone at the start of next week, hoorah!!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] john boot:
yes, I received 2nd package with accessories today (phone arrived yesterday)
[G2 and Desire Z General] YOSEFE:
I got my present phone (TP2) through MPD. Never were treated like this before.

My order with mobiles.co.uk is fine. The details are as below:

HTC Desire Z on T-Mobile 1 £19.99

Web 900 @ £30.00/month

24-month contract

This includes 500 text (and I don't text much - having passed the teenage thingy years and years ago), 900 anytime, any network minutes and unlimited web browsing.

As above, I only had to pay them £19.99 for the phone.

I already have a tracking code, which I will be using later this evening to know where RM are with my delivery.
[G2 and Desire Z General] jmpcrx:
yeah, i got the same deal as you ^^^^^^^^^ notice they are out of stock now.

got a tracking number and should receive it before 2pm tomorrow.. :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrvanx:
Desire Z arrived today, Is now charging.

EXACTLY as mobilefun.co.uk said in thier email 2 weeks ago. Nice :D

I ordered my Tytn (hermes) from them and all was good, I got my Touch Pro (Raphael) from HTCdirect.co.uk who were also good so there is two names which are getting good press. ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] p3eps:
I got the package with the screen protector and case in the morning by Royal Mail, then the phone turned up about 3pm by UPS.

You're not missing much by not having the accessories though as the screen protectors are a 99p pack of 10 that don't fit properly, and the case marked the bottom of the phone after having it in ONCE! The stupid pull tab scraped the rubbery bottom on the phone - so I'm using my HD2 one for the time being until I get something better.

I'm just away to order some real HTC screen protectors that fit. I'll get a Zagg one when they come out in a few weeks though.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
.

Congrats

Great to C U onboard
[G2 and Desire Z General] mk27:
On the tariff i chose, the phone on MPD is £45 and mobiles.co.uk is £70.

After MPD cashback (£30) the cost of the phone is £15 (£45 - £30 = £15) and mobiles.co.uk cashback (£50) leaves me with £20 (£70 - £50 = £20)

So the difference is ~£5.

Edit:

Haha i've just noticed the tags below:

date, desire, htc, messianic waiting , release

:D
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
Well guys i give the phone a 9.5 out of ten...

Real amazing piece of kit;)

Im currently texting upside down as well and the hinge is holding fine;))

JD
[G2 and Desire Z General] Porcelina:
Haha, I'm happy to see you finally got the phone after all :p ;)

(Btw.. why do I get a 404 error when trying to watch the unboxing on that page in your sig? Edit: Meaning, why does the page say that it cannot find the page I'm looking for?)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Pickx:
Here's a question that's been bugging me... My phone should be here next week but my case/screen protector would only arrive toward the end of the month.

What can I do to keep the phone scratch/blemish-free in the meantime?
[G2 and Desire Z General] WDawn:
Same here, never ever i will preorder @ pdashop.be again (and this goes for the whole company where i work, as i do order the phones for the others). Nice fancy story about preordering and getting your phone first but at the end, we need to wait longer then the rest. Got a mail yesterday from the saying that the phones got stuck in the customs. As it looks now they will only arrive next friday. Incredible.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Daffa222:
My status is still showing as "Pending Stock". I have sent a very angry e-mail to MPD. Of course it's great for you if you get your phone on Monday, that's fantastic. But if that's the case and I have to wait 'til Tuesday, I'll unleash on them. Absolute piss-takers.
[G2 and Desire Z General] andrewilley:
I don't know if I was just unlucky, but mine is really pretty bad. See the following video, in which I was not holding the phone very far off horizontal! (Sorry about the focus, just shot it quickly)

[YOUTUBE]k1j9cATFdaw[/YOUTUBE]

I have already got an RMA for it from SuperEtrader (many thanks for the excellent service) and hopefully a new one will be with me from them tomorrow morning, as they shipped it out this afternoon express.

Fingers crossed the hinge is more solidly built than this one!

Andre
[G2 and Desire Z General] stian230:
holy sh#$@. that's the wourst lose hinge problem l have seen so fare.

hope mine does not come to be so loose in hinge.

the HZ arrived in Norway 11:11..