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[XPERIA X10 General] simonurzua:
Any solution for the 30 FPS Cap Xperia X10???

Television don't works at 30 FRAMES, works at 60 FIELDS... is not the same... you're looking 60 FPS and your eyes can watch a little bit more, Apple and Samsung understand this perfectly and if you take in your hand one of them phones you can FEEL them different.... more responsive and smooth....

Me and a lot of people think that our phone have the capacity by hardware to take this advantage and I don't want discuss if the human eye can see or not more than 30 fps, I want to know if in all this time any person has found a solution for the "CAP"... It's posible to unlock this feature?
[XPERIA X10 General] 3dawg:
I really wish we could unlock this phone to 60fps. My sisters x10 mini pro is so freaking smooth and we are left with a clunky p.o.s. It seems fine and i am very content with it, until I use my sisters phone, then I realise just how chuggy the x10 looks in comparison. WHY OH WHY DID THEY LOCK DOWN THE MORE POWERFUL PHONE. Idiots.
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
32 FPS Cap similiar to HTC EVO 4G

Yeah, old news, I know. But I really think we should make some noise about this. Now, before anyone comes screaming that "human eye can't see more than 30fps!1", go and ask the EVO users did the uncapping of the fps make a difference? Or better yet, look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9EcehkZKv4&feature=related . I posted a new thread to SE's customer support forum already, writing this:

"Why has SE crippled the X10 in a similiar fashion as the HTC EVO 4G was?

I did some testing with fps2d inspired by reading some stuff on the HTC Evo forums, and it seems that that X10 behaves similarly: when the screen is on while running fps2d, the avg. framerate is 31fps, but when ran with the screen off its 53fps. So the kernel detects when the screen is on and limits the framerate.

This really contributes to the feel of lag when compared to other phones such as the Samsung Galaxy S which has it's framerate uncapped. I really hope that even though SE won't update the core version of Android further than Eclair, they really should remove the FPS cap. If any of the SE's devs or someone with contacts to the devs reads this, many people would be very happy to have this cap removed."

I also asked zdzihu if he's absolutely 100% certain that we'd have to modify the kernel to uncap, or even raise the fps limit, but he hasn't answered yet, or just finds the question unbeliviably stupid. :o

If we get SE to uncap the framerate, this phone would run smooth as tits and the overall user experience would be far, far better. I'd much rather have uncapped fps with Eclair, than Froyo with the fps capped. :(
[XPERIA X10 General] Tri3Dent:
I totally agree. Why the cap? It'll probably just as smooth as the galaxy s if it got uncapped. Listen to us se!
[XPERIA X10 General] Bwyan Benton:
When you get a response from SE support id be happy if you could share the reason.
[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
It could be a battery issue, capping the fps to 32 will sustain the battery drainage more than 60 fps

but to be honest it doesn't make any difference with me, not saying that I cannot see the difference between 30 and 60, but it will not affect anything with my daily usage... But would like to hear from SE's point of view

Keep us informed man
[XPERIA X10 General] Bwyan Benton:
Yeah it really doesnt bug me, but im curious as to why? If there going to raise any fps on this phone i wish it would be the 720p video recording more than anything...id like to see 30fps...thats where you can see a difference.
[XPERIA X10 General] a2ha:
FPS aren't all about games.... watching movies, surfing the net and ect. would be alot more smoother too....
[XPERIA X10 General] a2ha:
Well, when im watching movies, playing games, surfing the net always 60FPS would be awesome.....
[XPERIA X10 General] misk_one:
would be interesting to see if any improvements are made in responsiveness of the digitizer with higher FPS...
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
After seeing the video with the uncapped Evo, I want a uncapped X10. The scrolling between the homescreens looked smoother.

When we add the max events per second 26 thing to our X10 the game icon follows my finger as fast as on the uncapped Evo in the video :)

Hopefully when can have custom kernels soon
[XPERIA X10 General] JoeBananas_:
I used to play a lot of fps games and i have a bit of knowledge on that stuff.

I used to play with ESL (european sports league) players (these ppl only want the best performance, no need for stuff like motion blur because it interrupts with quick reacting and aiming).

Limiting the fps (most players use fps max 101) is noticeable in performance. that limit is the optimum for performance and visibility. frames above that limit are just a waste of resources.

but that's just for online gaming.

For SE limiting the fps to ~32,i can only assume that the limit is there for performance reasons. Really, who needs more fps when looking at a normal UI?

just my 2 cents.
[XPERIA X10 General] anjo2:
I think that this is the last of our worries, with Android 1.6 i had to charge every day, with 2.1 i can get 5 days between charges, with timescape service (without using) the applications was very slow, i have uninstalled it and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRn3kMlCmFg became very fast :)

I play Counter-Strike 1.6, and yes, play with 60fps or 100fps its totally different, but is due to game, my monitor is only 60Hz, so 60fps (vsync) should be good enough, but arent in this game, in the most games, when u have more than 30fps, you play well.
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
http://sesync.uservoice.com/forums/68993-general/suggestions/1407013-unlock-the-x10-30fps-limitation

Go and vote!
[XPERIA X10 General] a2ha:
Can anyone explain me the 30 fps limit?

So i though that the 30 fps cap made everything to be at 30 fps, but now i installed a lwp and it works at 50 fps just fine... so how come it isn't possible to make other apps work ar about 50 - 60 fps? thanks. ( btw it's Nexus Revamped lwp )
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
Well of course you can set it to target 50fps in the settings, but what you actually see is still 30fps. It's the same thing with yonghz's emulators, you can set it to 60fps but it won't actually render as many.
[XPERIA X10 General] a2ha:
But it actually is 50fps, it runs alot smoother, try it out :)
[XPERIA X10 General] ddstulic:
facts:

1)

openGl drivers work on the video chip

framerate and timming is decided on cpu

openGl drivers have nothing to do with limiting framerate.

2)

it is actually harder to limit the frame rate then not to. Code to do so would add loops, system calls, if statements, sleep calls, etc.

3)

sudden frame rate drop noticed in many games is not due to any "blockage", but due to game loading textures or models, or performing CPU intensive calculations (ei physics).

4)

if SE did in fact limit the frame rate, then it has to do with one of the fallowing:

- overheating

- battery use

- input responsiveness

- memory speeds (textures from memory have to get to screen somehow, if memory is not fast enough -> problems)

5)

AFAIK, SE released X10 OS source code as a part of open source initiative. If you care to get to the bottom of this issue, download code, and look through thousand of lines of code.

6) Test methods used for testing issue on other phones are highly questionable: turning off display to get higher frame rate - think about it: when display is off, frame buffer is probably not even written to, and if it is written to it is definitely never read from -> aka more cycles to do other stuff...

7) why does it matter? if you want high quality games, power up your PC.

unless somebody shows me hard prof that this is the case i will not believe it.
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
Just to make it clear, I do not play games on my phone. I haven't said a single time that I want more FPS in games. Games are irrelevant. You clearly do not know how a phone and it's interface look when the FPS is uncapped. I trust my eyes more than any benchmarking app and I can assure you that the framerate is locked at 30FPS.

Play around with a SGS and you will immediately notice the difference. Heck, even the Nexus One with the same GPU as the X10 has it's FPS uncapped, and I tell you, it is noticeable. If you're not blind that is.
[XPERIA X10 General] totalundone:
I totally agree with what ooidort says here. 60 fps for the OS is noticeably better.

Think of it this way, if it takes a quarter second to transition a window, under 30 fps you get 7-8 frames of animation. Remove that limit and you get 15 frames in that same span. Everything is so much smoother.
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
I'm gonna bumb this just to get more attention on this issue. I really really really really really hope that this cap could be removed with some trickery without the need to modify the kernel. I feel that I'm at a loss of words trying to describe how much this single handicap in the UI bugs me, especially after playing around with my friend's SGS... I think I'm gonna spam SE's inbox full because of this, I couldn't care less about froyo, honeycomb or meatballs, just fcking uncap the FPS! :mad:
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDyHB3E8ZM4

Look at the horrible finger tracking at 1:14!
[XPERIA X10 General] Flo95:
By adding the "max events per sec = 26" thing to your build.prop you can fix the thing @ 1:14. Using that mod the screen is much more responsive (for me).

But I agree, the cap should be removed somehow. The Desire scrolls smoother through the homescreens, should be because it hasn't a fps cap.
[XPERIA X10 General] ooidort:
Yep, I know. I posted the value a while back in the X10 optimization guide thread. I just wanted to show how horrible it is with just the stock firmware without any optimizations. There's no reason for it to be like that. Just plain horrible.
[XPERIA X10 General] madmurdoch:
Why don't you go away and join another forum. I don't get idiots like you who come on here and spout crap. This a Dev site for Android users who want to push their phone to the max, experiment with the capabilities and share their knowledge with people who want it.

If you don't like it, keep your trap shut and sod off.

:mad:
[XPERIA X10 General] MJ_QaT:
Hahahah why the anger ?

just because he doesn't agree with you you don't have to be childish and act like one.

besides, are you a developer? did you really develop something to increase your phone's performance? or are just here hoping for someone to do it for you?

this is the General section of X10, people have the right to state their mind as long as he/she is being respectful.

By the way, I totally agree with him, as soon as you found out that other phones' numbers are higher than yours you start complaining and hoping for someone to fix it :)
[XPERIA X10 General] mrvirr3:
OMG follow instruction's here and you get 50-55 Fps on your x10

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=15074784
[XPERIA X10 General] Mister J:
Nice 5 month bump dude
[XPERIA X10 General] rizwanzz:
where is guide? unable to find. n how to add this value in bild.prop
[Vibrant Android Development] VICosPhi:
EDIT: I've modified this post and now this is the final T959UVJI6 OTA build.

BIG THANKS to rhcp0112345 AND Samfirmware.com for this OTA file

I've tested it with my phone and works PERFECT.

Flash at your own risk, I am not responsible if you run into any problems....

Like JI5 this ROM does not erase any current settings/data ...(It didn't for me anyways)

Included ZIP file contains ODIN 1.3, 512 pit file, Samsung DLLs and most importantly the flashable .TAR file.

I flashed it successfully just with ODIN and included .TAR file and all my settings/userdata was intact after the upgrade. If you're running lagfix, you should disable it. If you are running custom ROM, you should flash to stock JFD first and then flash this update on top to be safe. ( Note: Flashing to JFD will result in data loss).

Regardless, it's a good idea to create a full backup before flashing any image.

STEPS:

1) Backup your data

2) Download the zip

3) Unzip the downloaded zip

4) Turn off your phone, press and hold volume keys at the same time and plug your phone in computer to get in download mode.

[ People with hardware locked vibrants, make sure you have the drivers installed for vibrant on your PC and then connect your phone to pc with USB debugging turned on and open adb and type "adb reboot download"]

5) Open ODIN and under PDA option, browse for the .tar file in the same folder (Actual firmware file)

6) Make sure you have backed up your data in case you skipped step 1 or forgot it.

7) Click on start to begin the upgrade.

8) First boot will take some time so just be patient, and you're done.

DOWNLOAD LINK (TAR + ODIN 1.3 ZIPPED)

FULL PACKAGE ODIN 1.3 PLUS THE JI6 FW IMAGE ZIPPED WITH MANY MIRRORS (EASY UNZIP AND FLASH)

http://www.multiupload.com/W9GLROFXAL

MD5: F0940B1B6C5D48702E7720B7030C436E

Change Log:

-GPS, SGPA, SUPL

-Exchange inbox

-Contacts Sync

-The Sims 3 10th Anniversary Edition ( Didn't see this on mine)

-Battery indicator

-Calendar alert chime

-New Services: Samsung Media Hub

-40+ bug fixes, UI changes and updates.

Credits:

BIG thanks to samfirmware.com, rhcp0112345,Viralblack and the3dman
[Vibrant Android Development] rel500:
Man I can't wait to get home. Just the other day I was telling my girl how I wanted to sell my phone due to the lack of 2. 2 n now look :-) joy. **** date night. It's flash night.
[Vibrant Android Development] VICosPhi:
sorry to take away your excitement but this is still Eclair not Froyo :(
[Vibrant Android Development] SamVib:
Can you please post what's new in JI5?
[Vibrant Android Development] epakrat75:
I do so hope this post was in jest, sarcastic, etc. Otherwise that's oh so sad. :eek:
[Vibrant Android Development] VICosPhi:
It seems similar to the previous builds JI5 to JI2 so far. Just flashed it :D I'll post if I see any noticeable changes/fixes
[Vibrant Android Development] rel500:
.... ok so date night it is lol.. thought this was the same as from over the Captivate forum..
[Vibrant Android Development] epakrat75:
Why not ask this in a JI5 related topic? This one is about JI6. :confused:
[Vibrant Android Development] SamVib:
pfft....Mistake. I meant JI6. I was thinking about Bionix when posting that..
[Vibrant Android Development] SamVib:
Isn't this it?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SSKNNZQJ

About to flash. Like you said, it doesn't wipe?
[Vibrant Android Development] rel500:
Of course it was.
[Vibrant Android Development] VICosPhi:
Seems like the3dman beat me to it :) yes must be the same....I'm uploading the .tar itself which is around 285 MB
[Vibrant Android Development] SamVib:
So it's not going to wipe then, eh? Because when I flashed JI2 it cleaned my phone. :confused:
[Vibrant Android Development] VICosPhi:
Correct, the JI5 and JI6 are close to final builds hence they don't wipe...but again this is something I've noticed. You should do the nandroid backup just in case.
[Vibrant Android Development] SamVib:
Currently doing one ;) just did a Titanium Backup.
[Vibrant Android Development] metalfan78:
Can someone mirror this? I can't get it to download

The cake is a lie!
[Vibrant Android Development] SamVib:
Ugh....It wiped. Going back to JI2 since there's nothing new.
[Vibrant Android Development] 30Glock:
Did you test anything??
[Vibrant Android Development] SamVib:
as in?

10char
[Vibrant Android Development] 30Glock:
Well your going bk so quick, you said nothing new, How would you know if you have not tested anything in general, GPS, LAG, SPEED, IDK.
[Vibrant Android Development] firasoblast:
I guess I'm bricked now. Process failed! and the phone won't turn on again for like 5 minutes. It turns on now with a cellphone and a computer sign with an exclamation mark in between! any opinions?

Update:

problem fixed! and downloading now. for anyone who may run into the same problem. here what I did:

I took the battery out, simcard and sd card,then put the battery back in and sd.While the phone is off, I held the Volume +/- at the same time and plugged the device into the usb which is attached to the pc,and voila! it went back into DL mode.
[Vibrant Android Development] Rodriguez92:
hey i just successfully installed this but i dont have night mode in the camera app nemore y not????? other than that very smooth ... can ne1 post where to find easiest root method pllleeeaaasssseeee ... liking the blue battery n 3g too
[Vibrant Android Development] demo23019:
Open odin locate file. Then plug phone and put into download mode and when Odin shows phone connected click start... I had few times before when updating failed and found to work better with that method. Odin can be finicky

edit

If your phone is unlocked which that's how it sounds, since you were in download mode in the first place...

You dont need to do all that when odin fails. All you had to do was just pull and reinsert battery, then hold vol -+ and plug in USB and will go into download mode again like you would normally
[Vibrant Android Development] s15274n:
Worked amazingly well, thank you!!
[Vibrant Android Development] Yo_MaMa:
Can anyone confirm if unlock still works with this update? I still have my txt file with the unlock codes, will they work with this update? Last time I had to downgrade to unlock again. :(
[Vibrant Android Development] rhcp011235:
Thank you for the thanks. I spent half the day to get this update to all of you. While doing my wedding invitations and mailing them :)
[Vibrant Android Development] mfreywald:
These directions worked for me perfectly. Only problem I am having is the GPS is still wonky, stay's stuck on searching for GPS in the navigator. Also I noticed the sgs info app I have no longer goes to the GPS test/settings. Just sits on a dial screen. All the other menu's work fine in it. Really odd. Also the *#*#1472365#*#* no longer goes to the gps test/settings. Did the entry code for it change? Anyway, thanks for the update, everything went like butter.

Marty
[Vibrant Android Development] veol:
Thanks! I'm new to Android, and I bought unlocked Vibrant in Canada to use with WIND, so I did not have the option of getting the update OTA. Many thanks to everyone who made this possible :)

BTW, for those that are interested, my phone was stock and rooted. I did not have any custom roms or anything else.

Also, I read in other posts that the update may lock your phone if it was unlocked. After installing the update by following all of the instructions, my phone was still unlocked.

After successfully flashing this update with ODIN, I feel a little more comfortable with flashing ROMS, and may try other customizations (eagerly waiting for cyanogenmod for vibrant :D)
[Vibrant Android Development] DonutYankee:
OK, update went perfect. GPS, compass, phone itself are all spot on. Performance is amazing now, even with umpteen thousand apps and a couple of gigs of music.

ONE BIG ISSUE: The phone and laptop no longer acknowledge a USB connection between the two in any way. Phone charges but doesn't say it's plugged in to a PC and my PC no longer sees it at all. Odd. Any ideas? I've reinstalled drivers, and nothing.
[Vibrant Android Development] rorycs:
How long should the download to the phone take and will ODIN give any indication of progress?

EDIT: It has completed successfully......
[Vibrant Android Development] sumasage:
Anyone compare the build.prop files from the JI6 OTA posted here and the JI6 Leaked?

I odin both .tar files and compared the two build.prop files, they look exactly the same. So are they the same or different update? Can someone else test it or post their build.prop file?
[Vibrant Android Development] heygrl:
They're both the exact same size, one is just built on a different date. Not much could have changed, I've flashed the "OTA" version and it has no noticeable difference over the leaked version I had before.
[Vibrant Android Development] sumasage:
If that is the case i expect the build date to be different in the build.prop file. The one i have are both "ro.build.date=2010. 09. 28. (화) 21:06:20 KST". Then again maybe they were lazy to change the date.

How did you know they were build in the different date? Well beside samsungfirmware site said so. Were there differences in some files or something?
[Vibrant Android Development] iynfynity:
then what will i do if i have the harware locked phone?
[Vibrant Android Development] mjb337:
have any one notice the sims3 is not working? each time i try to launch the app i keep getting there is a problem parsing the package.
[Vibrant Android Development] oved.ou:
I'm new to this thing, and I have a question

I bought the samsung vibrant a month ago.

I live in israel so when I got back I rooted it using the "1 click root" application I found here. I did that in order to install hebrew fonts.

So, I have the original phone+root+hebrew fonts.

I will obviously backup my phone before the procedure (need to find out how, but I guess it will be easy).

Is it supposed to work?

Is the fact I rooted it makes a difference?

Thank you,

Oved
[Vibrant Android Development] frankencat:
Anybody flash this over JAC's OC kernel? Does it overwrite it?

Edit: It definitely overwrites the kernel. I flashed right over it and no problems there. :)
[Vibrant Android Development] frankencat:
Things I noticed right away..

1. Market is real slow. (better after it settles in a bit)

2. I hate the stock battery icon.

3. GPS is definitely working better.

4. Phone seems snappier but still not blazing fast like it should be.

Getting around 8.2 MFLOPS and 879 Quadrant.
[Vibrant Android Development] heygrl:
Custom battery icons cause audio problems like stuttering and skipping. Market is pretty quick for me.

GPS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl1Q2qlRNwE
[Vibrant Android Development] mjb337:
Do i have to flash the PIT with this?
[Vibrant Android Development] chtse53:
OTA flashable might be different from the real OTA

I can confirm that the so-called OTA flashable and the leaked JI6 file have the same build.prop. I suspect that the real OTA might be somewhat different, at least as far as some apps are not shown in the market with the OTA flashable but shown with the real OTA. Apparently, all three have the same build.prop. So the build.prop cannot tell the difference.
[Vibrant Android Development] frankencat:
The leaked JI6 build.prop is different and has an earlier build date - 9-22-10 I think.
[Vibrant Android Development] cathardicnotion:
Then you will be either buying a new phone, getting tmo to replace it, or sending it into samsung for repair. Already had to do this with one of my phones, so I'll be flashing back to barebones stock before flashing this update. Be careful!
[Vibrant Android Development] chtse53:
That's what you think, perhaps because somebody got the supposed leaked JI6 build.prop from a JI6 based custom rom and reported the build-date to be 9-22-2010. I compared the build.prop from installing the leaked JI6 and this so-called OTA JI6 flashable and found them to have the same build-date: 9-28-2010 and the same time too.

The main difference reported so-far was the appearance /disappearance of some apps on the market. Perhaps there are other ways which the real OTA process could identifiy the build as official so that the market can tell the difference.
[Vibrant Android Development] frankencat:
Hmm....interesting. My build.prop came from JAC's oc kernel so I guess there could have been some tweaking going on there for market and such.
[Vibrant Android Development] CompConfig:
Night mode is still there they just changed the location, it is under settings now
[Vibrant Android Development] 30Glock:
Thanks for your time in packing this for us.

Thanks for reply, That was my initial thought.
[Vibrant Android Development] velocd:
Anyone else still having gps locking issues. I got the ota and I'm still having locking issues. Maybe I have a defective phone.
[Vibrant Android Development] DonutYankee:
Nevermind, issue solved.
[Vibrant Android Development] budney:
Thanks to all who made this package possible. It was super easy and the update was very quick too. :)