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[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] heybobitsme:
Son of a *****...

Guess what just got S-OFF: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=833965
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Whoareyou:
Grrrr.... weve been waiting for almost a year, and yet after a monthy they have it....., grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :MAD: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] migueltherocker:
Its been 5 months... not even half a year. Why would you be mad that they got it? That's a very childish, "if I can't have it no one can" mentality. We should be congratulating them, and hoping that the cracking of the G2 leads to the cracking of other locked down devices.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sixtninecat:
Thank You Miguel well put
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ChiefzReloaded:
I literally said the same thing via Twitter when asked. The S-Off i have been tweeting about is the G2, which is final and has been released obviously. I also said that S-Off was already done on the Slide, we are waiting for an AlphaRev release, probably 2.0. When I stated that I thought the Slide would get it before the G2, it was because that was a total possibility, it had already been accomplished on the Slide. But being its provided by AlphaRev, I have no control over its release time. Im sorry for any confusion if there was any, and I hope I have clarified a little for you guys.... CR
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] falken98:
I don't think the G2 devs were trying to get an idiot proof error handling one click down before releasing something. :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ChiefzReloaded:
You are 100% correct on that fact. The G2 S-Off is a dangerous thing being it can brick ur device in 1 wrong line... But it is also very easy and I feel with proper disclaimer, which it has, its fine... AlphaRev is releasing a much safer, and "idiot proof" as u call it, method which is completely understandable and in good measure for this sort of thing... Patience my friends. If you have waited this long, whats another few days gonna do... It is coming very soon and you all will have it.... CR
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] slughappy1:
I'm excited for it whenever it comes out.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] heybobitsme:
Oh ya! Reading the instructions on that and man, it isn't for the faint of heart! Lol! Miguel is right; congrats!
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] heybobitsme:
Dude, ease up son! Breakthroughs on any device should be heralded not scorned. *takes off poetic hat* :D
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] fermunky:
Eh, getting a G2 soon anyways :) Anyone need a spare MT3GS?

Edit: And why is the G2's method not for the faint of heart? Copy two files over, run temp root, run 3 commands and done...
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Whoareyou:
Its not that I'm not happy for them, its that we've been waiting for this for 5 months, and they POOF get it in a MONTH, seriosly, why is it that a device with NEWER hbooot and recovery and is releasd 5 months later get this first, it just seems to me that we've kinda been put off up until nbetcher got started on this :*(
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] heybobitsme:
For me anyways, it's a pretty long command and you need to make sure it's dead on, otherwise you've got a paperweight. Besides, it'll be a moot point tomorrow when they update visionary with that method. As it is I'm good waiting on Apha Rev. :)

Edit: If I could afford it, I'd get a G2 as well.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Ace42:
You should be happy that we actually have people still working on the slide when there are other devices out, there are probably android phones that dont even have root yet.Cr said Alpharev is working on a better version, so all have to do is wait for a stable ver that would be safer than the G2's S-Off.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] zerolgk5:
Be Grateful

A lot of people tend to forget that their phone is pretty awesome in it's own right. The devs here work hard (not to mention for free...) to make these already excellent phones even better. If you don't like how fast they work, then learn how to do it yourself. Otherwise, be patient and say "thank you." If you're still unsatisfied, I'd suggest re-acquainting yourself with Samsung T-819 for a few weeks. It's like going back to the dark ages.

Anyhow, before I fall off of my soap box, thanks devs.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] cidica:
In all honesty thanks to the devs that are still here for the Slide. I love this little phone it does what I need and with the CM rom I'm very happy. I do wish however that HTC would freaking release the BlueZ source code so we can have bluetooth back on our phone with stock android roms from Cyan and others. That's pretty much the only thing that annoys me and it's not something the devs have control over.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] acejoker25000:
Because one wrong letter or number with one of those lines and you have a paper weight! Plus an idiot or someone overconfident wont double, triple check before hitting enter and bam $250 paperweight

BTW mytouch 4g been out 5 days also has s-off LOL it is based on the g2 method soooo its really thanks to that but still if you have enough knowledge and bravery you could try editing their method to work for our phones or be patient and wait for an easy release
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] amack10:
The g2 is easy. U know u can look at the commands on ur terminal on ur phone and compair it to the one on ur computer screen to make sure its rite before u enter it. I'm glad I traded my mts for a g2 =)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] bhang:
since the cats outta the bag (g2 soff)

As I understand it the sOFF xploit is the same or similar from device to device, I never beg or ask for ETAs but I just think the slide is a sinking ship on the sea of open development and sOFF may just save a core group of devs.

I am sure there is a reason for no release but, I want a real recovery, MM themes, RWsystem... all that cool ****.

So since its not my style to ask for ETAs ill just close with keep up the good work, and maybe if you could explain why it can be released we would all feel better.

Bhang
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] PanCubano:
You.

should read this:
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] migueltherocker:
You think the Slide is dead, get a backflip.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] SilverL:
Yea, some people make it sound like just because a newer phone has just come out the current ones are dead to the world. I just got rid of my cliq for the mytouch slide. I was mostly happy until I found out that I couldnt modify files on the system partition. Then found out that I need S-Off, only to find out that it doesn't have it released yet...

I laughed when I saw the newer phones get their S-Off released before the older phones. If only everyone could upgrade immediately when new phones come out :(
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Faud:
As far as I know you can use metamorph on the slide now, I know that you can use ESTRONGS root explorer because I have done it, as long as you use the legend rw overlay...check out this thread here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=773278

You want the one w/o a kernal. It says in the thread that metamorph does work Ive just never tried to as I have no need to.

I use this on my slide and I think that I have seen a rom with it in it already.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] PcFish:
I got so excited when I saw an update lol.

Good luck guys!!!
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] wyvernwaddell:
If I understand this right...

This is just to create an overlay, it's not actually S-off, right? Don't think I'll be trying it unless we get an actual S-off...

I am willing to guinea pig for an actual S-off though..wyvernwaddell on facebook or twitter.

Really, really, REALLY hoping to see some progress soon :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] heybobitsme:
Ouch!

10char
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] kevev:
No problem. My HD2 is keeping me company. We appreciate all the hard work. :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] KCRic:
Are you talking about the system R/W overlay? Then yes, it's just an overlay.

If you're talking about this thread then you are dead wrong. S-OFF is S-OFF. There is no 'fake' or overlay S-OFF, it is what it is and will give us the ability to have system r/w without an overlay among multiple other things.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] falken98:
For some reason i'm picturing this to end up being a 10 line shell script when it gets released. :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] HebrewToYou:
For some reason I'm picturing this whole project as Duke Nukem Forever...
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] ebeing:
removed.....
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] migueltherocker:
Lighten up Hebs :)

If we get it, we get it and we can celebrate. If we don't we're back where we are now. Why not hope?

The whole losing the git repo seems a bit odd, but I guess stuff happens.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Ace42:
How exactly is a repo lost anyway?I always thought it was all on a online account.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] HebrewToYou:
I really don't understand the issue with posting the instructions for doing this manually... Why are we waiting on AlphaRev when the process is already well-known enough to be posted to the G2 forum?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] heybobitsme:
Is it the same process? I know they modified it to work on the mytouch 4g.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] nbetcher:
Because I am not about to destroy our reputation because people aren't patient enough to wait for it to be released. I am getting a little irritated now and, quite frankly, I am not going to put up with abuse.

The process for the G2 is NOT the same, not even close, but if you truly feel that it is, you can certainly attempt to brick your Slide. ;)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] HebrewToYou:
But there *is* a procedure and it must be duplicatable, no? So why are we putting all our eggs in the AlphaRev basket?

Raising this issue hardly constitutes abuse, nbetcher...

And what "reputation" is this you're looking to protect exactly? Posting clear instructions with a disclaimer will suffice in protecting any blame on your end. And if you're really worried about people bricking their device trying to follow S-OFF instructions, don't post them to XDA!

Just pop into the #mytouchslide IRC channel and post them there. It just seems really odd that we're waiting for some guy who can't even keep his git intact for this when it's clear that people have successfully achieved S-OFF without him. Really, really odd.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] wyvernwaddell:
No need to get all excited, y'all...I'm sure it'll show up as soon as he can get it done. Need I point out the relative merits of honey and vinegar when you're trying to ask someone for something?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] dbzfanatic:
I've found in most cases soda or beer works better than honey:P. Seriously I agree though, we just have to be patient. If the method is different from the one used on the G2 then it's quite possible if the manual method were released it would be patched rather swiftly. If an automated method is released it's more difficult so hopefully we just wait a few days more and all will be worth it.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] nbetcher:
Hebrew and myself spoke on IRC about the issue. When speaking with him I realize there were a few things that I need to clarify with our little community:

I am not a developer for AlphaRev.

I have S-OFF on my Slide.

No, I cannot share the process of doing it manually because I have made a promise to not release the method.

The reason we are not releasing the method is so EVERYONE gets S-OFF at once. If it was leaked, then HTC could fix it via an OTA before AlphaRev 2.0 even came out.

We also don't want HTC to patch it in general, but we're aware it will happen eventually.

The manual process is very risky and holds a very high chance of bricking if you do not know what you're doing. I'm not saying this lightly - it has a VERY high chance of bricking your phone.

The automatic process will not have a high chance of bricking your phone, but that's why it is taking so long for IEF to develop AlphaRev 2.0: it needs a lot of error handling and there are a lot of steps that are extremely hard to automate.

The S-OFF procedure for the Slide is completely different than the G2's

. I would not attempt to do the G2's on our device, especially considering the driver (.ko) that is in the G2's S-OFF thread is

ONLY

for the G2's MTD configuration/mapping.

Toodles.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] SilverL:
You must also realize that dangling the fact that you have it in front of others faces isn't really a nice thing to do. And most of us get it that theres a wait involved, that theres an exploit that no one wants to be found and patched, etc.

But the main reason I look forward to this is because since I've rooted if I turn my phone on and off it goes into airplane mode, which when I deactivate reboots. Thats a terrible inconvenience.

Thanks for the updates though. Keep us informed on the problems/releases.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] PcFish:
Rooting did not do that to me. What rom did you install?
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] SilverL:
Yea I figured it doesnt happen to everyone. I am running the stock rom. I might go and install something else later though. I've been wanting S-OFF soooo bad so I can get to my own custom modifications.

EDIT: Though it might have happened after I tried(and failed) using the root overlay.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] rolfd:
Hi all, I've been asked to pop my head in this thread and take a look as it seems some people are getting a little over excited in here.

I've had a read of the thread and I think that the OP has done all he needs to do at this stage. He has shown that S-off is possible, but is clearly not going to release the information on how it's done as he has agreed to keep it confidential for now. I'm sure we all know why it needs to be kept under wraps and away from HTC.

Also, the way it is currently done has a very high chance of leading to people bricking their devices. To be honest I'd be a lot more angry if he posted the manual way and this led to people bricking their devices and being left with an expensive paperweight.

So for now please be patient and keep this thread on topic.

Thanks...
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] falken98:
Is this actually a new and original exploit? From the bits and pieces that i've picked up it seems to be using the method that unrevoked has used, using an alternate driver to exploit something to allows you to flash a partition you shouldn't be able to flash. Then using that to inject a modified version of HBOOT to acomplish s-off.

Obviously, I could be way off base as I haven't seen any of it. But unless it truely is doing something new and original that other methods have not yet exploited then HTC already knows about it.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] fermunky:
I thought this was the reason from the beginning???

Besides, I think, just think I can survive a little longer, it's only a phone people, calm down.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] SilverL:
I dont mind the wait. It is fun for me, at least it gives me something to look forward to. And it is not just a phone. I dont use mine as a phone. Its a tiny computer to me and I like having control of my computers.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] PcFish:
Yeah the overlay did that to me. I used to use it for ad free but then I ran into the force closes and auto reboots. Rooting alone shouldn't cause that.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] SilverL:
I would so take the risk bricking my phone to get S-Off. It sucks. HTC needs to care for their customers.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] twiztidnutzzzzz:
I so agree with you. But on the flip side I can see some noob who wants to root his phone but has no idea what root is then gets root and think he knows everything about android. Tries getting s-off and brick then complains and starts a bunch of new threads. Lol.

Ok that's gonna happen anyway.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] SilverL:
Though hasnt that been part of the process since the G1? Hell I bricked the second type of phone(first mytouch) I tried to root. Though the instructions were horrible... I still bricked it. The only way to fix is jtag. So I gave up on it for now... Its been a nice reminder of the fact bad things can happen... but has that stopped me? nope... will it stop me NEVER!!!
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] twiztidnutzzzzz:
Yup yet people still like to complain about there own f•Ckups. I myself would be upset but it would be my own fault and head on the platter.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] acejoker25000:
Pointless ... I just wanna no that since he lost key parts of github y not just allow you to release risky version it's not your responsibility if they brick their device furthermore if anyone is planning to root they already have rooting process is simple so even if HTC patches the method everyone is rooted and should no better then updating with official updates by now and if they don't oh well. This does require a level of common sense and basically I'm not confident waiting on someone that loses key parts of github with a cleanup when we no your method is guaranteed to work albeit with risks that I'm sure many people are willing or have enough sense to take.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] acejoker25000:
This is why we need instructions too hard for a noob to follow buy anyone with actual android/Linux/computer knowledge can follow! That way we get no hey bricked phone help!!!!!!!! Posts or OMG phone went black help!!!!!!! Posts! Though we may get I need simple instructions can someone make idiot proof ones??? Or similar. But we can ignore them right??? LOL
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] sleepykit:
Honest opinion. It's posts like that one that stir and upset people. May I suggest keeping all those comments to yourself, save it's not done, and you have no plans of sharing what you do know.

All the rest sounds very much like an insult to all the rest of the capable folks who visit this forum.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] fermunky:
Good Christ folks, give it a rest. Be lucky they are still thinking of giving this to everyone when finished. If I had the capability to do this, and saw all you whiners, I'd keep it to myself and make you either come up with a process on your own, or buy another phone where s-off is already achieved. Here's an idea, go outside, go to the beach, go hang out with friends... and put your phone in your pocket.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] KCRic:
What he said. Emphasis on the last sentence.

And to those that think they should release it right now because it would be too hard for 'noobs' - I hope you brick your phone and enjoy your $300 paperweight.

I guess when you were born you knew everything about unix, linux, bsd, java, javascript, sql, c, c++, html, xhtml, html5, ms-dos, xml, and the list goes on. You knew everything about mtd partitions, nand modules, dual boot os, or any other aspect of android. For the rest of us that weren't born from the blood of the computer gods do us a favor and return to playing second life because we don't care that you're 'holier than thou'. We like to learn on our own accord without 'your a noob, you don't deserve this' on an open source platform. Really? One steve jobs is enough, we don't need more.

Let them work in peace, they don't need any of our input to complete this.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] arayray:
It'd be simpler to just close the thread until it is released
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] falken98:
No, I learned them. You don't learn anything with a "insert disk and press enter. done."

If you have no desire to learn, then use your phone as intended. For those even remotely needing s-off I would think you would want to learn what the heck it is you are doing. :)
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] acejoker25000:
Nobody is born with the knowledge we just have the ability to use search and common sense which a lot of smart phone new users don't have. Which is why its annoying to see new threads in wrong sections it questions that have been answered a lot of times already. If you plan on rooting then you would at least expect people to no what it is and have a little of their own knowledge to be able to figure some things out. You don't need a deep understanding of every code language out there to be able to search and use common sense. And if I do brick my phone that's just an excuse to upgrade to another! Live and learn and for God sakes search! This is a Google based os you have a Gmail and most likely use other Google services so why not use the original function that Google was? Search? I mean you can find anything and everything using it. So forgive me for not wanting noob friendly instructions! I just don't like fishing through 1000 threads trying to find the right thread which used to be on the first page but is now on page 10 because 300 people think they are the only one with that problem
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] HebrewToYou:
^^^

THIS

10char.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] fermunky:
I am Fermunky, and I approve this message.

Thanks for the help you've offered so far nbetcher, don't let the script kiddies get you down.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] KCRic:
I agree Acejoker, people do need to search more on here. However, when I see questions about things that haven't been addressed and I google it but turn up nothing or very little - most of it applying to something completely different, it does make it seem like there is an elitist aspect to all of this. Mostly because people either won't answer or when they do it consists of an a$$ chewing.

You're right Arayray, it should be locked until it's released. We seem to be arguing over small things because we can and have nothing better to do:D for the moment...
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] SilverL:
While there are a lot of people complaining, there are some people who make proper comments. I am glad that nbetcher is keeping us informed, but I agree with sleepykit that he went around letting us know about whats going on in a distasteful manner. From what I can tell he might have worked closely with them with the developers, but it just seems like he was the tester...

Meanwhile the thread has had its share of whining, and thrash talk and it would be nice if people can keep that down and realize that without the developers hard work(no matter how long it takes) we wouldnt have what we want. And props to all developers who dont let whining and trash talk stop them from releasing their awesome products.
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] rolfd:
I posted a note on this thread only 2 days ago asking people to keep it on topic, and please be patient. Obviously some people have chosen to ignore this.

The moaning, flaming and arguing stops now.

I don't intend to lock it, as lets face it, we are all meant to be adults here and should behave as such. Normally this forum is a pleasure to moderate as generally you are all so well behaved! Please keep it clean, tidy and most of all respect eachother.

Thanks...
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] falken98:
That's the problem, it got so boring in this forum we needed a flame war. :D

Just wanted to say I meant no disrepect to anyone, just bored with my phone and need something new to do with it. lol.

Anyway... back on topic... which I suppose is silence for now. :cool:
[myTouch 3G Slide Android Development] Ohsaka:
Im confused...

What exactly is S-OFF? I like things ON, not OFF!

(j/k)

I did enjoy your flame war though. Greetings from G1 land! Just stopped by to see if it was time to steal my wife's phone and root it or not.