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[EVO 4G Android Development] TorxT3D:
all the sudden i lost speaker sound.

and i dont know when it started or what app i mightve installed that did it.

i checked all my sound levels, and i only get sound with headphones in.

and the phone only vibrates when i get a txt or call.

ive cleared my cache/dalvic, rebooted, etc etc still nothing.

any ideas? i'd hate to wipe, or maybe i can hold out for the next myn rls? ;D :D :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] peekeesh:
3g sleeps after 4-5 mins when the screen is turned off. If mobile data is turned on, then even if your screen is off, 3g will remain connected. that drains battery real fast.

I don't see any issues except of course if you are streaming music from pandora, like slugbug said. pros, extended battery life! :)

like yesterday, while i was charging my evo, i set the mobile data to on, then when the batt was full, i unplugged it. forgot that i had set that to on. I went out to lunch for like an hour, when I got back i was like at 79%.
[EVO 4G Android Development] texasez:
I have 65 mb storage left on the phone with 125 apps. Does this slow down the phone in any way?

If so, what is the minimum storage available for 100% performance?
[EVO 4G Android Development] brownhornet:
I refuse to turn mine off... mainly because the things I use stop after a while of the screen being off. I use my phone for work and I tried it once for a couple of days. My email worked fine for a few hours but then after a while I noticed my emails were only coming through when I turned the screen on so it wasnt really an option for me. I went back to the htc #10 kernel and as of today I came off the charger at 6:30 am.. its now 11:40 and im at 87% battery and thats with mobile data on.

I just cant turn mine off.. I use my email, messenger and gtalk and without data in the background my phone is almost pointless for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
It shouldnt slow your phone down, but if you are probably a good candidate to enable a2sd. Just search the thread and someone has the instructions to do it, it will move all of your user apps to your sd card and free that memory back up, for me there is no benefit as I only use about 20 to 30 apps.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=8804284
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Yep - unless your on wifi, turning mobile data off is not a good idea if you want real time eamils, syncing, etc.

I never used to turn mine off, didn't realize we could and I didn't know would it would impact. I don't notice a big battery saver in turning it off anyway. I average about 1% drain per hour while I (and my phone) am asleep and that doesn't change it the mobile data is on or off.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
I dont consider emails to be of great importance to me to get instantly, so for me it isnt a bad thing, I work at a place that usually has 1-2 bars at best, so I just use an App to turn off mobile data whenever screen is off. It turns it back on within 10 seconds of me turning screen back on so it works good for me. It has settings in it that if I'm running Iheartradio or pandora to stream music, it wont shut off data. You can set it application specific, or set it to where if anything is using more than 3kbs it wont shut off data until the stream is done, that way if you sometimes turn your screen off with streaming it wont kill your data, it will only do it if you arent using data. then it syncs your email at an interval you specify, mine is for 3 mins every 30 seconds. It makes a big difference for me since I'm in fringe coverage.
[EVO 4G Android Development] elosogrande7076:
What is the name of the app you are talking about? Sounds like a good app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
I think he is referring to tasker or juice defender
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
To clarify, "Always On Mobile Data", when turned off, lets the 3G modem go to sleep after the screen has been off for 5 minutes. It doesn't interfere with anything like email or any other application that requires an internet connection at that moment because it turns on on-demand rather than being on all the time and wasting battery.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Persnlmgr:
Kinda obvious, but have you checked Settings/Sound/Sound Profile to make sure it's not on Vibrate only, or Silent?:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Android Development] brownhornet:
This is NOT the case for all phones so I wish people would stop saying it. As ive said when I cut mine off email worked fine for a while but then it would only come through when I turned the screen on. And to be honest having it off really didnt save that much battery anyway.. not enough to really make a difference.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
That is my understanding, as well, and that is why I have it unchecked. Thanks for the verification.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Why should those of us, to whom this statement is true, stop saying it? It *IS* true for us! I'll concede that adding a disclaimer that states: "not true for all phones" might be in order, but to say that we should stop saying what is true for us is unacceptable.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
That is the way it is intended to work, so if it's not working for you, something's wrong with your phone (on the software level).
[EVO 4G Android Development] philburkhardt:
Screens!

I just wanted to post a few pics of what I have going on so far.

I want to thank Myn, and this awesome community for helping me get here. There is an incredible amount of information floating around these forums. As well as the most helpful Android community I have come across yet. My hats off to all of you :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
nice, now if you could only get all the colors to match (I am OCD i know) then you would be set. But otherwise great ideas and great layout, mind sharing what you got going on?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
Systems like active-sync and gmail use push from the servers rather than regular polling intervals .... so if the phone looses it's IP because the modem is turned off then yes ... it will kill your ability to receive email unless you tweak your phone settings to also poll regularly for mail in addition to push ... which in itself drains more battery.

I suspect this "effects different phones differently" is actually configuration differences in email clients .... those who are using POP3 vs those just using a GMAIL account (google uses push notifications) or Active-sync.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
Super power. Its made by an xda dev.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Hey y'all - I think we are talking about two different things.

I have Enable Always On Mobile Date UNchecked and I never change that.

If I understood him correctly, the OP was asking what the pros and cons are and the impact of turning mobile data off (via toggle not in settings). When I am on wifi I sometimes toggle Mobile Data off using the toggle (shortcut I put on one of my screens). That turns 3g OFF. It doesn't impact or effect anything like browsing, calls or texting because I am using wifi instead of 3g. If I LEAVE it off, then I can't browse or stream music, but I DO still get emails pushed automatically. I toggle 3g back ON so I can access the internet.

These are two different things I think. No?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
They are. Mobile data is what it sounds like: your 3G/EvDo/1x internet connection. Always-Enable Mobile Data is the option that I described earlier. When you connect to Wifi, the 3G modem is turned off anyways, so there's no need to turn it off yourself.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
my setup/experience ...

Mobile Networks - Enable Always-On Mobile Data

• NEVER have enabled ----> never √

Accounts & Sync -

• Auto Sync - NEVER have enabled ----> never √

• Background Data:

if want to receive gmail and pull email (set to sync every 5 minutes) ---> √

at night with lights out, i turn off wifi/3g and then uncheck

(not that i need to)

to test: had 3g on and auto sync √

sent myself a test email from pc.

i left display off for 8 minutes.

turn display on. and mail notification was there.

bottom line.

i get everything i want, when i want it, without any battery drainage,

with Mobile Data NEVER enabled.

my .02

EDIT: yo Canes - new head coach right here from Jersey - went to HS right here.

at least the choice was made and done without being dragged out. now move forward !
[EVO 4G Android Development] Justin.G11:
and you just demonstrated that you are not using a push configuration for instant email ... which explains why people are saying they don't get email using that method (push configuration requires constant uptime).

Using your settings: active Sync would not work properly (unless manually configured with polling intervals) no will gmail (by default it uses push ... you had to tweak it as you did in your example).

This is not a "per phone" issue .... this is a configuration issue on how different people get different results.

Real irony: Push configuration uses less data than polling. I know this is a battery comment debate ... but for those who are playing these games because they don't have an unlimited data plan it's worth noting. It also begs the question .... if less data is used by an app that uses push vs polling ... then what's the battery "cost" for initiating the internet every 5 minutes vs just leaving it up?

Seems like those who are fans of turning off mobile data have a hungry internet app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Gmail automatically uses Push from the server end rather than the phone keeping an open connection the entire time. I can confirm I still get email fine.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Ok, so the question was about "What happens when you turn mobile data off?" I took that to mean the Mobile Data toggle, NOT the Enable Always On Mobile Data. Two different things. I think/thought I was answering the OP questions with how it impacts me if/when I toggle mobile data off. If I am on wifi, nothing changes. At all. If I leave it off and leave the wifi area, then my gmail still pushes, but I can't browse the internet, check facebook, etc. My Enable Always On Mobile Data is always UNchecked.
[EVO 4G Android Development] philburkhardt:
Yeah sure!

I am using:

-Launcher Pro Plus

-Folder organizer for the Drop Down

-Simi Clock

-OneSeven Pro (for day of the week)

-Metro Station Icons

(found here: http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&global=1&q=metro+icons#/d312tty)

-SkullphabetOne font

(flashable, found here with MANY more: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=801160)

-Pure Music Widget

...now I'm gonna work on getting "Sprint" out of my notification bar.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
(without reading the past 4 pages)

if enable always-on mobile data is √

does that mean that 3g is constantly awake and won't time out with display off ?

so pandora with display off would keep playing until you tire of it ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] peekeesh:
sorry i didn't type the words as is but really I was referring to the "Enable Always On Mobile Data". :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
there is two threads that help you do this, one hex, one CDMA workshop
[EVO 4G Android Development] DraeGZ:
Can someone give info on this ? I tried downloading the SDK app but could not open ADB .. I'm using AmonRa
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpkimmel:
where is the bootanimation on this rom, can't find in /system/customize/resource...any other ideas?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
you sure? Thats where i push all my custom animations and have it work fine. Are you trying to pull or push?

ADB is something you execute from the command prompt. you should navigate to the tools folder in your SDK install directory and then execute the commands. Also you can install Clockwork and attempt to install it from there under alternate recovery
[EVO 4G Android Development] DraeGZ:
You mean install ADB from Clockwork or just use Clockwork to do my backup?
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
install Amon recovery from Clockwork under alternate recovery or you can push Amon recovery via ADB in the command prompt on your computer.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jake624:
I did a search but did not find if anyone replied to the request for information on the 4 day weather widget?
[EVO 4G Android Development] kpkimmel:
when i push the bootanimation.zip, usually i push it in to /system/custoize/resource but now when i try it says couldn't copy file directory not empty
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
hmmmm.....weird, i checked using a file explorer on my phone and that directory exists. check your spelling?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lmasieri:
ANYONE? Can anyone at least confirm that it crashes for them? I've flashed the ROM three times and the issue still there
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
Never had this problem, try the 782,code to reprogram your phone maybe?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
I think things are really starting to go in circles with our discussion. :) Whether you 'toggle" mobile data on/off, or you "uncheck" the "Enable always-on mobile data" configuration in settings, we are still talking about mobile data correct? Are they not the same thing? If they are, then all we are talking about is different ways to enable/disable it. If they are indeed different things, then I guess I am not really understanding the difference.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
Well not so long ago I would have felt confident in answering this, but after our latest dicussions on the issue I'm not so sure. HOWEVER, if I understand things correctly, if "Enable always-on mobile data" is CHECKED Pandora (or any other streaming app" should continue playing even when the screen is off. To heck with it, I'm just gonna test it out now and report back.
[EVO 4G Android Development] #Winning#:
You can toggle your data/3g from the dropdown notification bar. This turns it off completely, as if you get emails and stuff I'm not sure. But I think that he was referring mostly to the option under settings and mobile network. This turns off your data when the screen had been off for 5 minutes.
[EVO 4G Android Development] peekeesh:
i wanted to help but when i go to Settings >> Call, i don't see the NBPCD. sorry.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
Right, but in both cases it is still the same "mobile data" we are talking about. It's just a matter of managing it. So if you manually shut mobile data off, then it will remain off until you turn it back on. If an app depends on mobile data in that case, it will not work regardless of whether the screen is on or off. On the other hand, if you uncheck the 'Enable always-on mobile data" option in settings, then as long as your screen is on you will have a data connection. However, a few minutes after your screen shuts off, the system will turn off the data connection and turn it back on once your screen is on again.
[EVO 4G Android Development] #Winning#:
I agree, not sure I understood the whole debate going on earlier lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
no - not the same. mobile network turns 3g on.

you need a data connection (3g, 4g, or wifi) to get email, web, etc.

if you √ enable always-on mobile data

but don't have 3g, 4g or wifi on, then you don't have data.

at least the way i see it
[EVO 4G Android Development] tandxcstar1:
Anyone know why the marketplace autoinstalls to the new marketplace or how to turn if off?? I clear defaults and the orig black marketplace is on there for an hr or so then im assuming it catches it and then installs updated marketplace. I miss the all black and im tired of having to uninstall updates to get it back to normal. Any suggestions? Thx
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
Okay, let me try to state it another way. If you manually turn 3G off (or any other data connection for that matter), then it is off regardless of what is checked or unchecked in settings. However, if you have not manually turned 3G off AND "Enable always-on mobile data" is checked in settings, you will always have a 3G (or 4G) connection whether your screen is on or off. On the other hand, if "Enable always-on mobile data" is unchecked AND you have not manually turned 3G off, you are in essence letting the OS manage the 3G connection. If your screen is on you will have a connection. When your screen is off, after a few minutes the OS will turn off the data connection to save battery. Once your screen is on, the OS will turn the data connection on again.

So the only point that you are stressing is that if you manually turn off your data connection, it doesn't matter what other settings you have enabled/disable. But I still say we are talking about the same mobile data in each case. At least that's how I understand it. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] packattack12:
dude! where did you get that sweet launcher ? is that launcher pro? and those icons on the launcher. I would LOVE to get that! please let me know, thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] philburkhardt:
Thanks!

Yeah, it's Launcher Pro.

The icons are called Metro Station, I got them from Deviant Art. Here's the link:

http://yankoa.deviantart.com/art/MetroStation-183210118
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kraenesk:
Check out beautiful widgets.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Swede2008:
So, lets say data its on, with the enable always on mobile data UNchecked, and I turn my screen on, do programs automatically reestablish a connection? for example, screen off so os disconnects data. turn screen on, data reconnects. Do I have to go into gtalk and manually sign in again, or does it happen automatically? Basically I'm trying to figure out if I'll still get my im's in gtalk with screen off. Lol

Sent from my HTC Evo! :-D
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
i'm not TMZ - what goes on behind closed doors is no business of mine!

and that includes my evo with display off :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
I don't use gtalk, so I'm not sure. Also, I'm not saying my explanation is gospel. it's just my understanding (gathered from these discussions and my own tests) of how it works. Off the top of my head I'd say it should re-connect automatically. But give it a shot, and you could help clarify it even more. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] usmcpw:
htc themed dialer on myn's rls 4

ok so i flashed the dark sands theme onto my 2.2 rls 4....and it changed my dialer...does neone know the file to find it in so that i can replace it with the htc themed dialer from the rom???
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
lol Too funny. So you suspect your evo is getting a little somp'n somp'n in the dark?
[EVO 4G Android Development] klsmalls1:
Can you update your Launcher Pro dock to work w/ version 8.2? Its only working with 8.1.1 thus when I flash it, it downgrades my Launcher pro.... :-(
[EVO 4G Android Development] amot:
Is it possible to use Fresh's rosie on this ROM?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tb87:
Anyone have an alternate link for the netarchy kernel? I cant get the media fire one to start downloading on the OP for some reason.
[EVO 4G Android Development] peekeesh:
Afaik, the docks are the some but the icons aren't. are you referring to the icons? If so you can download the launcher pro that's in my thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=856577
[EVO 4G Android Development] tandxcstar1:
so anything on the market update and why I cant revert back to the black layout. Only time I can is if i uninstall updates but then it autoupdates back to new market... frustration kicking in
[EVO 4G Android Development] sonicdivx:
Some how my home screens are now blank

Not sure what happened was reinstalling apps and had some restarts (Titanium Backup corrupt backups or something) .

It looks like the Sense is what is screwed up . I tried a reinstall of the ROM (no wipe) and that did nothing.

Going to a full wipe again. but hate having to setup apps all again.

Any thoughts to ease the paing , much appreciated

Thanks

Kevin
[EVO 4G Android Development] xfbo:
For the love of God, can someone tell me how to get this look/option to work?!?!?

I have this ROM installed, I flashed it a million times but no such luck getting that look on my LauncherPro menu, what am I doing wrong??? :confused:
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
new market is being rolled out to masses so unless there is a new themed version coming out, if you want the market sooner or later you will have to take the update, could be wrong
[EVO 4G Android Development] leenypost:
Are you installing from the attachment on the front page? That is the only one themed that way. It is Myn's themed launcher pro.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xfbo:
^^ I am, I've also tried downloading the copy through his "warm updater".
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
I'd really like to help you, but I have never, in my entire time playing with Android 2.1 Heroc, to EVO 2.2, ever heard of anything called NBPCD - sorry man. IF you could maybe give a screenshot of the settings or maybe be more specific in where it's found? Because I know for a fact, when I go into Settings --> Call --> there is no NBPCD setting to be found. This IS on Myn's rom right? AND, you aren't talking about DDTM Mode are you??

Sorry dude...
[EVO 4G Android Development] tomh1979:
i got the new market themed in black today, can't remember which rom i got it from, but it's on my Myn's warm.

Edit: uploaded from my pc, hope it works for everyone as good as it does for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
So, go download the file from the OPs first thread. Then, instead of flashing it, because it'll probably fail if you do try to flash it, just extract the files to any folder of u'r choosing on u'r SD card. THEN, go into that folder, and navigate to, "data/app/" and you'll see a file named "com.fede.launcher.apk".

Click on this file and begin to install it. Make sure it installs and once it does, press home and it'll ask, Sense or Launcher Pro... select launcher pro as default. Then it'll be there. Also, you need to change the dock background, in laucher pro's settings, to Froyo wide and that'll make it work and look JUST like that picture ;) enjoy!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Greenfieldan:
I kind of like the look of the new market. I do hope Myn makes it's inevitable theme optional :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Androidious:
Do you know where the link for the themed new version is? I have the new one already, but not themed... that'd be cool dude :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] tomh1979:
check my last post, i added it there, lucky i download all my stuff to the pc first, then load it to my phone, that way i have everything if need be.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Andy S:
Flashing via Amon_RA, I got a "failure at line 274" installation abort. But strangely, the phone boots into the ROM.

I wiped everything prior to installing. Any idea what's going on? Should I try again?
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
it was my understanding that you uninstall LP

download and flash the themed LP from OP and reboot

then manage apps - and clear defaults at htc sense

select LP as your launcher

and you're good to go
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
if your near a computer i would flash via ADB or install clockwork and install AMON's that way. I would want to ensure i have a proper working recovery above anything else
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
that's certainly a different theme than the Market that came with Myn's RLS 4 !

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Andy S:
I've got my amon_ra recoveries from my working phone prior to starting this. Amon_ra has always worked correctly before. I looked at the md5 on my downloaded file and it was fine. Going to check it again on the SD after letting Titanium restore stuff (which seems to be going very slowly).
[EVO 4G Android Development] tomh1979:
Yes, but i do like how Myn's is much blacker.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tandxcstar1:
Hopefully this one will stick and upt update to ne market... Flashed

Nothing BUT FC's now on the darkside update for market... FML
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
but it sure is better than the stock new market ugggh