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[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Jaynrb:
seems to work just cant get voice to stay connected. video stays connected by voice stays connected just for a little bit. when i click on video it kills my voice. i can hear the other person BUT they cant hear me.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] henreeg:
Sounds like it would be much better that way!

Anyway- I tried it out. works great. I tried it with my girls mytouch slide, a friends iPhone 4, and my supervisors HTC. I'm not trying to be funny lol i really did try it with all these people.

EDIT: I forgot to mention crappy experience- no front facing camera. But worked great anyway.
[Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranger61878:
I don't think you can, but I don't seem to have any troubles with calibration.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkitchBeatz:
In eclair double tapping to zoom seemed to work in the browser. It would even reformat the text so that it all fit in the window. I can't seem to replicate that behavior in froyo. It zooms in a little but doesn't change the text.

Also, YouTube videos don't seem to open in the YouTube app anymore. They open in the browser video player(I'm guessing) which has fewer features (no soft menu w/ sharing options)

I know its leaked software but is that just how 2.2 operates? Anyone else able to replicate these minor annoyances I'm having?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heymanator:
Yes I am also running froyo and it seems the zoom is off.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SkitchBeatz:
So I was poking around through the settings and there's a check box that must have been checked by default in 2.1. Its called "auto-fit pages" check that and the zoom of old works
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dino_Donis:
Does anyone know of a free app that will toggle sound between bluetooth device (mono) & speaker?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] dino_Donis:
Someone must be able to answer this????
[Epic 4G General] xtkxhom3r:
my phones 3g stopped working 1 day after i flashed a new rom so i tried flashing it again and that didnt work so i am trying to go back to stock with the how to return to stock guide on here but i cannot get my pc to recognize my phone in downloading mode

i can adb when its on and the drivers are installed but when i boot into downloading mode it just says device is unrecognized

i have tried a different computer and reinstalled the drivers more times that i can remember. what would be the next step here?

is there anyway i can start fresh even if i lose root?
[Epic 4G General] M@XLOL:
There needs to be a q&a section.

The drivers suck.

What os are you using. Persistence will be your friend. Don't forget to power cycle everything.
[Epic 4G General] xtkxhom3r:
im using win 7 64bit
[Epic 4G General] M@XLOL:
The win 7 drivers are actually vista drivers if I remember correctly.

Which Odin arevyou using? Do you have clockwork?
[Epic 4G General] xtkxhom3r:
i have tried 1.0 and 1.3 nothing works. and yes i have clockwork thats how i install my roms.
[Epic 4G General] M@XLOL:
I believe this flashes stock through cwm

Edit: read that thread I am not on the computer...

You should be able to flash two field and be good to go.

Good luck op
[Epic 4G General] xtkxhom3r:
that post looks very very familiar i think i have tried that or maybe i was going to and never got around to it... ill do it right now ill keep you posted. thanks for your support man
[Epic 4G General] M@XLOL:
this looks like the other file that you will need.

apparently the first one writes system the second for the modem (phone/data)
[Epic 4G General] xtkxhom3r:
lmfao your gonna kill me for this but as soon as i finished transfering the file to my sd card 3g just started working.... maybe it was just a glitch with my signal over here? im going to let it be and if it messes up tomorrow then i will flash that stock rom and see what happens...

incase it doesnt work where can i get that 2nd file and how do i install it?
[Epic 4G General] M@XLOL:
This post here.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
I've been tracking this for a while

Now it is confirmed:

Bell will carry the Desire Z, 850/1900 MHz 3G NAM bands

I hope other carriers will follow (AT&T ?? Telstra ??)

I'm eagerly waiting to put my hands on a NAM D-Z

Source:

http://androidheadlines.com/2010/10/bell-canada-to-launch-htc-desire-z-android-smartphone.html

[EDIT] 29 OCT 2010:

Providers are confirming unbranded NAM version Desire Z as soon as the first half of november

[EDIT] 03 NOV 2010:

Bell has RELEASED the NAM version in Canada

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[G2 and Desire Z General] Anomaly:
Interesting. So the ONLY reason I want the G2 now is Stock froyo then.

And if you can flash G2 roms to it.. and the price is right.. :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] rsmith675:
i doubt at&t will get this anytime soon them and Motorola seem to be content to give us the most mediocre android availible
[G2 and Desire Z General] trendz:
Boys, I can't wait for a NAM 3G version.

We are now one step closer, check this out: :D

http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/10/10/confirmed-bell-to-release-the-htc-desire-z-499-99-no-contract/
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
thanks trendz,

this is good news
[G2 and Desire Z General] nonameduck:
Can't we just use this one for AT&T? They use the same bands, don't they?
[G2 and Desire Z General] Funk2641:
yes, it should work perfectly
[G2 and Desire Z General] trendz:
No problem man.

Edit: looks like you can order the htc desire z leather case now @ bestbuy canada....weird but another great sign. :)

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/affinity-affinity-htc-desire-z-leather-case-acp9038bk-black-acp9038bk/10154687.aspx?path=085c999b274bc91a28dd309d92fe1995en02
[G2 and Desire Z General] trendz:
It's Official

Finally, an official statement from Bell Mobility themselves. :D

http://desirez.bell.ca/?EXT=MOB_off_vanity_desirez_093010_TM_EN
[G2 and Desire Z General] zaghy2zy:
NOOOOOOOOOO!! I wanted the D-Z but I am on Rogers... :O

do you know if there will be unlocked D-Z that I can buy?
[G2 and Desire Z General] awsrasool:
i feel you bro... but u can probably get it and get it unlocked... dats my plan am getting it unlocked one way or another buying it NOV 1st eitherway
[G2 and Desire Z General] trendz:
I'm on rogers too, I'm planning to buy it outright from Bell and get it unlocked to use on rogers. I'm sure the unlock codes will be available soon.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Raspster:
How do you know the Bell version of the Desire Z is out on Nov 1st..?
[G2 and Desire Z General] meboy:
I was really hoping for first week of November also since Europe launch is looking to be around then but if you look at the contest rules on Bell's register page the Contest period is "From October 14 to November 30, 2010".

Would there be any point in running a contest based on pre-registration for a phone later than it's launch date?

We may be looking at late November or even worse, early December.

I guess we'll see.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Raspster:
Yea, but the contest is to win a desire Z. I would think that the contest time will not make a difference as anyone will be able to get it for a price after the first week in NOV but @ the contest end, you can win it for free. That's the way I look @ theses contests.
[G2 and Desire Z General] meboy:
Entrance into the contest is done by registering for updates on the release date and whatnot.

The registration page won't be up after the phone has launched because no one would register for info on the release date after the launch date. Hence why I think we're looking at end of November as a launch date.

The phone that will be available sim free online the first week of November is the Europe version. That phone is not compatible with Bell, Telus, Rogers, AT&T.

The 3G bands are wrong.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Blesseld:
Just hit up ebay for the unlocked bell D-Z, I am on rogers and will be doing exactly that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Anomaly:
Considering this over the G2. Any idea of an off contract price?
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
Bell has already stated $499 w/o contract,

(and a plus: Bell doesn't brand their high end phones)

Let's just wait for the release date (nov? dec?) and they will pop up @ eBay
[G2 and Desire Z General] Anomaly:
Thanks! Hopefully HTC would have worked out some of the G2's QC issues before then too.
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
i was going to buy from Negri, but i didnt like the sound of having to wait 2 weeks, headed up to Langley this morning to get my D-Z from Best Buy Mobile.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
i PMed you.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
hey seattleboi, did you make the drive north to get your desire Z? let us know what you think.

so far I am very impressed. i had a very weird signal issue initially when i got it and was trying to set things up..... had trouble with the microcell at work. but i reset the mcell and things went well. it immediately connected to my mcell at home and ive had no issues since then. i think the signal in this is BETTER than my milestone. i was able to hold a phone call on my street yesterday where my milestone ALWAYS drops. (so does my wife's Pre).

The only unknown for me right now is the battery life, and only time will tell for that.
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
its only 7:30 am here, they don't open until 10. i still dont understand how i woke up on a Saturday no less, at 6:45 am.
[G2 and Desire Z General] ste1164:
You can trust negri. The YouTube channel pocketnow.com bought this version of the desire z from negri electronics and the guy did an unboxing
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
hahaha.... well, i guess youre excited. 630 is sleeping in for me... i get up daily at 430, and usually on the weekends it between 630 and 7. of course i had to get up and get my DZ set up. im finally done loading apps and tweaking. hope you have a good drive up to Canada.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
several here (including me) have purchased from them, with good success. i did inquire about their current stock and they were expecting more devices i think next thurs. i was in the first batch and got my phone yesterday. i thought negri was very upfront about their stock and their expectations for receiving and shipping.
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
i kept waking up to check my bank account to see if the money got refunded by Negri. the sun hasn't even risen yet! the drive wont be bad, its about 90 min, depending on how fast i drive and how long the custom's wait is.
[G2 and Desire Z General] bostonirishguy13:
They updated the site specs to 850/1900 3G. I called, but the guy I talked to wasn't really on the ball and didn't seem to know. I've dealt with them in the past and had great experiences. Not sure who I talked to there this time. But their specs are usually accurate.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
BIG, you are everywhere!

Agreed, SN Traders is a reliable outfit. I specifically asked last week about a 850/1900 version and all they said was they only had the Euro version, so good to see they have the NAM model now.

I had no complaints with them. Good, free overnight shipping. I think you pay a premium price with them, but no one makes us buy these things. When I bought my milestone, they were the only game in town.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
Ive also found some of the people there to be English challenged.... not that skills are any better in any other language, but I did have a bit of trouble communicating with them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Raspster:
Hey, anyone notice that the footprints app is missing too? shesh... Not sure if the book reader was only for the D-HD... That's not here too. This sucks! I noticed in the settings for locations that there is an option to sync the HTC locations to google and also an option to re-download the HTC locations app but it gives an error every time you try. hmmm, Wonder if we can get it in here... Better yet, anyone have the apk for the footprints... I'm sure it's gonna need a adb push... sigh... Also, anyone having trouble getting a GPS lock..?
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
ive never heard of footprints, but notice there is a TON of crapware on the DZ, not sure if its HTC or Bell. I dont think its worth rooting and roming to get rid of them..... app drawer is pretty messy however.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Raspster:
Actually it's locations now... Here is the link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUeW6-HTtSU&feature=player_embedded

Fast forward to 6.57.

Yea, it's not here too!

Damnit! I wanna find a pub to get a pint!
[G2 and Desire Z General] bostonirishguy13:
That's where I bought my Milestone, too. I'm on the fence whether to order from SN or wait for Negri. Negri couldn't guarantee for sure I'd get one out of the next batch.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
BIG, if you really want one now, the only other place I found that had 850/1900 DZs is a place called omega cell communications in Alberta. their website says Canada web orders only, but I talked to the guy and he said they would ship to the US. Does SN Traders have them in stock. You should have had seattleboi pick one up for you today.... he was driving N over the border to pick one up.

You arent TOO far to the border, not willing to drive north?

Does SN Traders have the NAM version in stock?
[G2 and Desire Z General] bostonirishguy13:
The guy at SN never confirmed they were in stock to my satisfaction.

SN is a looong drive from Boston, about 10 hours. LOL
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
Yeah, that is too far, but cant you get to Montreal of some other place in Quebec quicker? Several either here or on the Bell forum at Hofo have said several Canadian retailers have been selling them, no contract, no activation. I might drive 2 hours but that is about it. I hope you find one to your liking (price-wise).
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
i got it. and what a nightmare. the bank i use had a major meltdown, was forced to drive back to the US to get cash then drive back. but, i gots it!
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
what an oddyssey

congrats
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
thanks! Bestbuy didnt even have any accessories for it. i came back to the US and bought a case for it at the T-mobile store. i'm finding i like it better than the Nexus One.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Red John:
Just hit 8 Mbps down with my Z on Telus. New territory for me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
Holy cow..... so was that like 2 4hour round trips to get the DZ? That is some serious dedication. Glad to hear you prevailed.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
seattleboi.... is the hardware of the G2 exactly the same (ie same battery door)? I need to get an extended battery and cant find anything on line for the Desire Z, but there are batteries for the G2. Usually an extended battery will have a different door and I want to be sure if I buy a G2 battery it will fit properly.

I need to order monday as I have a trip at the end of the week and fear the stock battery on the DZ will leave me high and dry.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
Did Negri ever ship your DZ? When do you expect to get it?
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
well not not quite. its 2 hours from where i live to Langley, i had to cross the border 4 times, i drove back to the USA, and ended up waiting over 45 minutes to cross the border and went to the nearest bank of mine which was about 25 miles south of the border and got canadian money. then I turned around and drove 26 miles from the bank back to Best Buy crossing the border a 3rd time and purchased it.

so all in all, i left my house around 10:15am and didn't get home until about 6:45PM, and then promptly fell asleep, with the D-Z on a pillow next to me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
They are the same phone, just running slightly different ROMs and with different bands. So the batteries etc should be identical.
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
i bought a gel case for mine just to protect it from drops and scratches. and fits perfectly.
[G2 and Desire Z General] zuachs:
Hi, does it comes with a lcd screen protector? Is the lcd screen easy to scratch?

I'm waiting for Negri to ship mine. I think they will ship it this week :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
no screen protector, but when i bought mine i got a nifty Bell Mobility SIM which i'll never use :-)
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
yes they shipped last thursday, it arrived to local customs yesterday (saturday), so I may be getting it tomorrow monday
[G2 and Desire Z General] zuachs:
Thanks seattleboi1982, once I receive the phone I'll decide if I buy a lcd screen protector or not. I have a HD2 and the lcd screen material is resistant(like it was shown in a video). I hope this one is the same!
[G2 and Desire Z General] ExTREmE99:
Hey, congrats on the purchase. I ordered from Negri, hopefully theres no problems and it gets shipped later this week(like they said on chat a few days ago).
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
thanks steve, so far the battery seems acceptable..... tomorrow will be a good test, a routine day for me. there is another thread about battery life and overclocking that is pretty interesting in its results.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
that is still a lot of effort..... glad you finally got your Z.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
excellent.... that was really pretty quick.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
experiece with wifi hotspot and phone calls on my microcell

I was able to give the hotspot feature a good test today. drove home from the mountains, my son had his ipod touch. only had edge service the first 1/2 hour, and while he could connect, data rates were pretty slow. Once we got closer to civilization, we got 3G and his browsing/speed tests were quite good. Well over 1M up and down, but the latency was pretty higg (200+ms). Probably at least as good as tethering from my laptop over the USB with my milestone.

Besides the battery which has been better than expected, I am also impressed with how this thing works with my mcell. At my office I have 20MB fiber so the Mcell works great, but at my house I am pretty far from the CO and my DSL doesnt get much better than 1.8MB down and about 400KB up. In theory that should be plenty good for any VoIP solution. My vonage line works fine and so does skype, but there has always been a slight lag on my milestone, making the conversation awkward. Tonight on my DZ I make 2 phone calls, in total over almost an hour and didnt have any lag at all. Interesting, because I thought the issue was bandwidth. My sister who almost always complains about the lag didnt say anything tonight.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
other threads are reporting battery life's quite good,

and after reading you spent near-one hour talking via WiFi (!!),

I'd like to know how was your battery performance ??
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
My battery did pretty good yesterday, that is why I am encouraged it might be adequate to get thru a day.

As I have mentioned, I am more of a business user, so my phone gets used much more on a weekday than weekend. My first day with the phone (Saturday), I spent most of the morning loading software and tweaking, so the screen was on for most of that time. First days with new devices are usually like this and not a good gauge of battery life.

Yesterday was decent. I looked at a few emails on sunday morning, but didnt do much. Phone came off the charger at 7am. By noon it had dropped less than 5%. I wanted to test the hotspot feature when we drove from our mountain house back to our regular home so I put the phone on the charger during the one hour drive. So by 1pm i was back to 100%. Went out for a hike and listened to some podcasts via a bluetooth headset for about 1 hr and 45 mins. Then didnt do much with the phone until the evening when i played with skype for a short time. Called my sister over skype (skype out to her landline). The call dropped after about 10 min and i called her back over the cell network on my microcell. after that a 30 min call to check in on my mom. Battery was at 65% before the calls and just under 50% after the hour of calling.

All in all, pretty acceptable. I stuck it on the charger about 930pm and charged all night. I will be in my office most of this week so i wont use my DZ a ton. Next week I will be out of town for 3 days visiting clients and that will seriously tax my usage. I am debating if I need to pick up some other battery (extended or otherwise) for the out of town work.

BTW, I have wifi and BT turned on and my screen is set on auto. I dont do social media so i dont have any facebook/twitter going on. I do have weather bug elite running in the background as well as push email to my exchange server using touchdown.
[G2 and Desire Z General] petard:
I just noticed Negri increased their price by $40!

I ordered mine for $600 with the $35 off coupon. Total $563. Hopefully they honor that price and ship it this week.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
Wot !

I m glad I already got mine, going to retrieve it from customs right now
[G2 and Desire Z General] ExTREmE99:
Well, i got a reciept saying i paid the same amount as you. I keep checking my email, waiting for the tracking # :p I got fedex 2-day which ill just pick up at work to make it 1 day shipping(hopefully) :D
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
This is what i got in Seattle on AT&T:
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
They certainly have the right to. Classic supply and demand model.... demand high, supply low, price increases. Econ 101.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
I am still very please with my battery life. I didnt use the phone much today as I was in my office, but still had my exchange running the background and my weather app updating as well. Ive been off my charger now for over 12 hours and have 57% left. My milestone would be less than 15% by now. Maybe I dont need an extended battery.
[G2 and Desire Z General] kcchen:
Thanks for all the info on the DZ NAM. Can't wait to get my hands on one.

I'm new to Android and have wondered about integration with my company's MS Exchange servers. Will I get push mail as I would on my WM6.5 phone? Do I need third party software?

Thanks!

Ken
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
GREAT NEWS

Debranding has been achieved, check android development forum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=832503
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
Thank the HTC gods!, werkin it now as we speak.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
the default email client on the DZ support exchange active sync just fine. the client is pretty good and is free, part of the OS. for exchange support i prefer to use an app called touchdown (nitrodesk).... its about 20 bucks, but worth it for me. I use my DZ to monitor many of my client's networks and need an annoying recurring alert if something goes down. my network monitor sends me an email alert if something goes down and touchdown allow you to set up a filtering rule to play a special alert (allow for recurring and notification light support as well). the out of the box support is good and will probably be good for most users.

Both touchdown and the HTC sense email client support push email.
[G2 and Desire Z General] CarlGalgano:
Dont you have to totally reset your device to do this? i spent the better part of a day getting my DZ loaded and set up and dont want to go thru the hassle of doing it again.
[G2 and Desire Z General] seattleboi1982:
the only thing i had to do is re-setup my contacts and log into my apps, i had already set up backup my apps on google and all my apps re-downloaded without my intervention after i logged back into google. HTC Locations is pretty cool.
[G2 and Desire Z General] gtrab:
You can use some free backup apps to simplify the process:

Titanium backup or Backup and Restore are my recommendations

Just create a backup (contacts, SMSs, phone calls, even APPs and system setting can be backed up)

flash the new firmware

download the Backup app form the market,

run it to repopulate you phone with everything

piece of cake :)