yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Fred, it's a little bit more to it than that, my friend. First and foremost, companies are in business to sell a product or service at a profit. Believe it or not but it is the consumer that typically controls price. By the way, there is a difference between price & cost. Price is what a consumer pays for a product or service whereas cost is, in short, an expense of a company. Anyway, using the example you posted, $80 million or even the $50 million is not necessarily all profit. You mentioned taxes & fees, but you failed to mention, cost. Specifically, cost in regard to advertising, shipping/transporting, research & development, logistics, etcetera. I'm not trying to bust your chops or anything, my friend, but as an off & on small business owner, I just want to briefly show two things: The calculation that consumers make in regard to a company's intake does not always paint a true picture and that it is not wrong for a business to make a profit. Consumers have a great deal of power in regard to what a company charges. All we have to do is refrain from purchasing.
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
Cool post i found in Mik's thread about the upcoming evo 3d. I hope they can make some ports from it to the original evo. Especially you Myn, you da man.

http://androidforums.com/2450295-post541.html
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
^^^^

/filler
[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
I understand your point. Many companies that deal with such large customer bases put the relationships with customers on the back burner in order to simply increase revenue (and usually the bottom line). In the long run, it is actually better to cultivate those relationships (word of mouth and reputation are huge). With smaller firms dealing in consulting or other industries it is the crux of the business, however with something like the cell phone industry they can get away without it as each customer represents a much lower value and opportunity cost to the firm.

Sprint's lower price is actually the main thing saving them right now. All these extra fees to keep from paying another extra fee isn't helping though :(. There also has to be a balance between how many customers you can have and still provide an acceptable product or service and keep all of them. If you get those 2 million customers to increase your revenue by 20 million (to avoid people's confusion with profit), how does that affect your service? If it is unaffected, great, but if it suffers you will then in turn lose customers. Say now you lose half of the extras you got by lowering the price. Now you have 1.5 million customers (with a lesser service) and your revenue is 75 million. So if the company still feels they can get 1 million customers (@$80) and provide a superior service they will keep the higher price. That is Verizon in a nutshell, they have 93 million customers? They have a premium price, and a premium service (probably debatable).

Clearly it is much more complex, but what you are saying does have some merit.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Thank you, sir.

No arguments here, my friend...;)

No doubt about it!

I'm still in agreement..:)

Yes, but it is the consumer who allows them to get away with it, especially now that "we've" allowed what was once a luxury item to become a device that elementary school kids carry. Heck, those companies can afford to get away with it. At least, in my opinion.

Anyway, I've got to get up in about 5 hours so I should really get to bed. Goodnight, my friend and thank you for the feedback....:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
The issue is that, since it's gone from luxury to necessity, and every carrier is now expensive (minus) Sprint, how can we vote without wallets by not getting one at all? That would never happen. The most we can do is hop on a micro-carrier like Virgin or Boost...which are still Sprint. Don't ever say MetroPCS.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
Ha, btw, I quoted the wrong thing, sorry. I do understand what you were saying, but Fred was oversimplifying things to make his point. The feedback is certainly appreciated.

Well the problem is there are too many people happy to pay what Verizon charges. Many of the consumers unfortunately are not at all informed, or just aren't as concerned with price as you or I. It all depends what is in that customers decision set, price may be farther down their list than ours. Some people go straight for price then find a phone, some just want a certain phone, (iPhone users putting up with AT&T for this many years).
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Sprint argues back. This is what I've been saying:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/sprint-critiques-proposed-atandt-t-mobile-deal-says-buyout-woul/
[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
And I agree with everything Sprint said there. I am glad they are taking a stand, because, what I was kind of getting at, it is unlikely anyone else will do it for them even the DoJ or FCC. Sprint finally slowed their decline and are headed in the right direction, I think, but this hurts them more than just about anyone else.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NasTraDooMis:
Hummm , in recovery i only had that nandroid from the 14th before my issues, and i had put it in the nandroid folder titled " BCDS-20110314-2111".

I just made a fresh nandroid bu, and it created folder called " HT07DHL08779 ", and the fresh bu went into that folder. So i put my "BCDS-20110314-2111" in it and renamed it to "RLS520110314", and it finally took hold to where i could restore it . Happy days are here again ! :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Persnlmgr:
I actually think this is going to be brilliant...especially for those of us with the [now] smaller carriers.

In the year or so until this "merger" is approved, T Mobile is going to go on a wholesale acquistion-of-customers binge. It's always the way. The smaller company in this type of acquisition bolsters it's value by expanding its base. Their stock will continue to be traded, and increase in value, and barring some unforeseen snafu, will meld into AT&T a bigger company than they are now.

In some major markets, like L.A., T-Mob wins the JD Powers every year. They're seen as the smaller, "local" carrier and offer deals and services their big bretheren can't. This is good (so remember this).

But this will go away. We know AT&T will quickly suck up all the TMob machinery, and, other than honoring the existing contracts, will begin imposing their policies and pricing. This will not be good...

Except for those of us on Sprint, and the few other [now] smaller companies, who will get to reap the benefits of what Sprint, et al, will have to do to compete (remember what TMob used to be...?). Deals, phones, and if we're lucky, (and forward thinkers like Fred's BFF Dan Hesse stay in charge), our plans, service and equipment will get better.

Bring it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ryno_666:
My internet speed is crawling any ideas? 2.15.00.11.19Baseband w/1.90PRI and 2.6.32.17gee
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
If you've just installed RLS-5, download and install the adfree app from the market. afterwards, initiate the app and either select "revert" or update the host file, depending on whether or not you want to see ads in your apps and while browsing the internet, and then reboot your device.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
:)....amazing and congratulations....lol

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[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
No problem

I know he was, but far too many people see his example as-is and I wanted to clarify things a bit...;)

Thank you kindly, sir.

You are spot on, my friend.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Very good article. Thanks for posting the link, F(RED)...:)

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[EVO 4G Android Development] EVOme:
Is there going to be a RLS 6 of this thing?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Nexus S for Sprint is official and announced. It's $200, which is not bad. It's tempting because the updates come directly from Google, however it uses old hardware that the Evo 3D is going to kill. Tough choice.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
See page 3737 of this thread for a direct response from Myn regarding your question.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
I do not like the look and build of the it. If the Nexus S had been made in similar fashion of the original Nexus One, I would at least consider buying it. Still, I'm not giving up a 4.3 inch screen anytime soon.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] knightwolf123:
Hmmmm.....

Naaaa, I'm not going from a 1ghz to a 1.2 ghz . I need more. Like a 1.8.ghz dual core or something
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
By request, I've added to the list. flipzmode Fresh Rosie.

Find it in the usual places.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Nice work, Tommy...;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Agreed..........:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] eejayyeahuuh:
How's battery life on this ROM? Is it any better? I'm thinking of flashing this from MIUI and I got close to 14 hours on it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] knightwolf123:
O

I'm getting all day use but I've got an ebay 3000mah battery.

That's if I don't heavily abuse angry birds or, 4g youtube for too long.

I get up and unplug from an sbc at 6:30 am and plug in at about 9:00 pm

With no wifi. Scanning 3g all day long. I read if you can get wifi it makes an impact on how long battery lasts.

Bet I could go 2 days on wifi. But my phone makes wifi for my house when I get home and my work wifi is restricted therefore it sucks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
make your backups, nan backup, full wipe, flash RLS 5, flash a nets kernel, and give it a go !

YMMV depending on how you use your device
[EVO 4G Android Development] aburgthing:
Will undoubtedly wait for the next HTC monster phone available. My wife has the Samsung Epic and though I'm not bashing it at all (maybe like comparing Navel oranges to Tangerines), I simply like the HTC experience better. Perhaps it's just familiarity.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
That depends on your device, your battery, syncing habits, and your usage. Having stated that, I get very good battery life with my Seido 3500 and I'm a moderate to heavy user. With the standard battery, I could eek out 8 hours with moderate use and very little use of 4G. Still, like others have stated, make a nandroid backup, wipe, flash and test it out for yourself...;)

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[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Navel oranges & tangerines?...;)....Are you originally from Pa.? The reason I ask is because that is a typical statement of comparison in Florida.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] jbermi:
my next phone.

http://androidforums.com/2456934-post597.html

:eek: monster phone. puts every phone out there to shame. :cool:

way to go, HTC, sprint...i knew it was coming...patience always pays off. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
I don't know who that gentleman is or why he is credible, but no one over there seems to be questioning it. He talks like someone involved with Sprint, but then seems to speculating at other points? Probably a bit of both? :confused:

A lot of that stuff had been guessed already, but some great new info. A bit surprised to see WiMax+LTE (but ecstatic). In addition all of the camera goodies seem like superb and much needed upgrades. The one thing I don't think HTC has never done well with is cameras, they are always just kind there, usable, and get the job done, but nothing that sets them apart. It is actually in stark contrast to the rest of their *usually* top quality hardware.
[EVO 4G Android Development] barleysoda:
Nice link! If that post doesnt get people fired up for the next EVO then nothing will.:cool:
[EVO 4G Android Development] jbermi:
he works for sprint or one of their contractors...i think. hes very credible, from what i have read, he was right on with EVO info prelaunch, last year...

in another post he said it will have sense 2.0 on top of GB...which if true is even sweeter.http://http://androidforums.com/2450295-post541.html
[EVO 4G Android Development] do_9999:
I think u meant AT&T - Alltel
[EVO 4G Android Development] kids88yj:
I tried to install the sprint nascar from myns opt file and tried to down load it from sprint. Both say I need to be a sprint/ nextel customer. Reflashed rls5 no luck. Other sprint apps nfl, tv zone work fine. Not a huge nascar fan but I'm obsessed with trying to find out why this is happening.
[EVO 4G Android Development] NasTraDooMis:
I wonder how much that puppy's gonna be ? $$$$

When is it going to be released, Summer ?

I have only been with sprint since Oct, i would probably have to pay full price for it to upgrade :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
1 year anniv - June release mentioned

going to have engadget on tomorrow am in my tax bunker !
[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
I said what I meant. I was talking about the Alltel-Verizon merger. Verizon was forced to give up some of its markets when it merged with Alltel, they did this by selling smaller pieces to AT&T.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kekoukela:
Love the rom.

Btw, is there a way to flash the most current stock swype? i like the color better
[EVO 4G Android Development] do_9999:
Gotcha. The 15 states see AT&T not Verizon.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
It is in the FAQ section ;).

Yeah, it was actually quite a bit. Maybe they will force AT&T into the same thing with this new deal...I am sure Verizon would like to see similar treatment handed out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
remove Myn's themed swype that comes with RLS 5

using Root Explorer (or adb te)

delete swype.apk in /system/app

delete libswypecore.so in /system/lib

reboot

log into swype beta, register and download the latest swype beta
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
install nascar09-prod-release with wifi off
[EVO 4G Android Development] kids88yj:
Wifi is off. I hardly use wifi my phone is faster than my home internet, yes it sucks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Guys ;)

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/21/evo-3d-specs-confirmed-1080p-2d-video-720p-3d-dual-cameras-1/
[EVO 4G Android Development] :
W00T!
[EVO 4G Android Development] do_9999:
Can't wait. :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] gotshores:
sounds like when i worked at a financial institution in SA, phone could see wifi everywhere, but all locked
[EVO 4G Android Development] welshwarriorsf:
With the Evo 3D official and on the horizon I hope Myn will do a RLS6 that I can rock on my Evo for a couple years beause I probably wont be able to afford a new phone for a while. But if he doesn't RLS5 will more then suffice : ) I will be jealous and learking to see what Myn cooks up if he gets an Evo 3D. Warm 3D would make me : ) I think. I might just have to start saving up some money after all.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ryno_666:
Thank you so much this works great! I updated then reported and its super fast compared to before. There may be noobs like me that need to know this also.:)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Ryno_666:
Install add blocker update then reboot.= speedy internet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
There is no large picture of the phone, but here's a small one:

Sprint set up one of those "Phone updates by Email" pages too: http://sprint.p.delivery.net/m/p/nxt/prereg/index.asp?promo=evo3d
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
You're very welcome, my friend. For future reference, when you reply to a post, select "quote" so that everyone reading will know to whom and what you are replying to....;).....As for the slow internet fix, it is posted in the FAQ section at the beginning of this thread and have been asked and answered enough times to take up at least a third of this entire thread....lol....Anyway, I'm glad you got your issue resolved. Take care and enjoy your day.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Zackb911:
Hey guys having a problem with MMS not sending or receiving. No force close or anything, it just hangs with "downloading" or the little circle icon going and going.

I've tried rebooting, I'm using Handcent SMS but also tried checking with the stock app. Tried updating the profile in settings but that doesn't seem to do anything just a black screen.

Any ideas? WiFi is off so that isn't it. I need this fixed or will have to drop the ROM.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Have you tried clearing data for messaging under settings/applications/? And did you use toggle widget from the market to turn on and off apn or 3g? I had this issue a long time ago using a widget from curvefish.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Deal to combine AT&T, T-Mobile raises questions

http://goo.gl/cd8vC

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Zackb911:
I cleared the data for Handcent and the stock app, still no go.

No APN or 3G toggle apps or widgets installed.

Anyone else?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
When did it stop working?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Zackb911:
Ever since i installed RLS5 2 days ago, MMS is the only thing not working. I did a full wipe data, delvik, cache for the install. Everything going by page #1.

I was on Non-Sense ROM before with no issues.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Make sure that your wireless provider is not experiencing issues with MMS in your area. Also, are you roaming?

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[EVO 4G Android Development] Zackb911:
Not roaming, I have plenty of signal. I'm on Sprint.
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
If you don't mind starting over here is what I suggest. Download calkulins format all zip. Place on SD card. Flash it (this formats boot,

cache, data and system partitions). Flash it again. Then go to wipe. Wipe everything (factory reset, cache, Dalvik) three times each. Then flash Rom again. Try this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
I can assure you that MMS works with RLS-5. Did you happen to flash a different kernel? If so, which one and try flashing a different kernel. If that is not the case or does not work, do you mind reflashing the rom? Wipe EVERYTHING except the SD Card itself using amon RA (preferably v.2.3). After reflashing and signing in, do not add any apps or mods. Simply try to send and/or receive an MMS message.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] RonMan2:
Sorry for the noob question. I am not proficient using adb. What would the commands to delete these file state?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Zackb911:
Seriously? No offense but this ROM isn't worth that kind of headache. I'll just go use another one if there isn't a sensible solution.

I deleted all my MMS/SMS and tried sending another as a test, I get "Generic Network Failure" now.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
If you're going to use Root Explorer, simply maneuver to the location of the files, select "Mount R/W" at the upper right corner and then scroll down to the file, select it and then delete it. Make sure you select "Mount R/O" before exiting.

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[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Here you go

Adb start-server
Adb remount
Adb shell
Cd system/app/
Rm swype.apk
Cd ..
Cd lib/
Rm libswypecore.so
Exit
Adb reboot
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
No offense taken, however, unless you're going to nandroid restore a previous rom, will you not still wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache & dalvik prior to flashing a different rom? This is a very solid rom but I'm sorry that your initial experience with it is not on par with the rest of us. If you should change your mind and give it another try in the near future, we'll be here to assist you as best as we can, GOD willing. Take care....:)

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[EVO 4G Android Development] RonMan2:
Thank you. I am having problems after the third command.

After I copied "Adb shell", the computer returned

#

I then copied and pasted "Cd system/app/", the computer returned

Cd: not found

#

Any thoughts?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
I'm on a MAC. You must be on pc if that doesn't work. try this:

Cd \system\app\

Notice the back slants. Windows paths are used with \
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
@ronman if the cd doesn't work for you, try this.

Rm \system\app\swype.apk

Edit: Ron I apologize. I am not familiar with Windows at all. Only Mac and Linux. Instead of rm you should type del.

So

Del \system\app\swype.apk

Sorry man. you can just use root explorer method. I don't usually use it but its very handy without my hackintosh near.
[EVO 4G Android Development] RonMan2:
Tommy:

First, a big thank you for all you help.

Yes, I am on a PC (Windows XP 32-bit, 5.1.2600 SP 3 build 2600). However, the ADB commands are still a no go.

If I use "Cd \system\app\" I receive an error message: "Cd: not found" I found that if I use small letters for the cd and rm commands, it seems to work ( sort of).

Here is what is happening after the third command:

# cd \system\app\ returns

Cd \system\app\

>

Then > rm swype.apk returns

rm swype.apk

cd: bad substitution

#

Any more thoughts?
[EVO 4G Android Development] barleysoda:
Yeah because we all had to jump through hoops to get MMS working with this rom. :confused: The issue isnt with the rom but with you or your phone. I have never had a problem with mms with this ROM. The only issue I ever had with this rom was slow internet speeds and I was able to fix that with the fix in the OP.

If mms isnt working then you should wipe everything factory reset and flash again. Your going to have to do that anyway if you choose a different rom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] kenny111008:
Wait so is it true that the evo 3d will be able to take 10mp pix? AND be able to overclock to 2ghz? Or was that link a page back a rumor
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
No problem my friend. i was in class. Shakespeare. Hehe.

Definitely use lower case. I apologize for that. Its the auto correct on my phone that made it capitalized. Sorry. And its not cd:

It should be

cd ..

As in two periods. It takes you back to the previous directory. In this case /system/app/ back to /system/

Then cd /lib/ will take you to /system/lib/

I hope that helps. Sorry again for the capitalized letters.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
My girlfriend literally just went out and upgraded to the Thunderbolt on her lunch break. COME ON, I NEED THE EVO 3D. MY GIRLFRIEND CANNOT HAVE A BETTER PHONE THAN ME!
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Hehe. I hear its not too much better than evo. No htcsense.com stuff. No landscape. It does base a better processor and sense 2.0 but not a drastic improvement. Yep, we need evo 3d. Woot Woot.
[EVO 4G Android Development] RonMan2:
Tommy:

Still not working. I was copying and pasting the commands from your OP (and just changing the capitals). Hmm.

Maybe I'll have to buy a file program, since Astro won't do it (even after running Spare Parts and remounting the system with RW permissions). Any recommendations?

Ron
[EVO 4G Android Development] tommytomatoe:
Weird. I know those commands work. Astro does not have write capabilities to the system. Only the SD card. I know that root explorer works. I believe a free alternative is es file manager. It can do it but I've never used it.

BTW what returns are you getting? I know it works. Well get this figured out.
[EVO 4G Android Development] RonMan2:
I think I found the problem - I was not typing the correct file name. Apparently, the name has to use the same capitalization.

I restarted cmd, got into the shell and at the # prompt, typed

rm /system/app/Swype.apk

The system returned a #

I then typed

rm /system/lib/libSwypeCore.so

The system returned a #

I am now exiting and rebooting.

Again, thank you for all your help.