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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
I'm not sure, because there are more possibilities:

- have you seen that some toggles are 3-state-toggles? so it is simply not applied. e.g. you don't need to switch phone to ON, if no other profile switches it to off or you want it explicitely. please look into manual for this 3-state-toggles. perhaps they are on “don't change current state“ (default)

- your rom has a feature, which kills gprs, if it's not in use or something like wifi-on-demand

- there's a time delay in cht in gprs showing on or off.perhaps it's on and you don't see it the first time.

Pleasd attach storage card/_CHTScheduler/CHTSSettings.xml , if nothing of this helps (and repeat your device info then again plz)

@dingilino:

yeah, I understand :) and it's good to read the AboutBox with all the great helping people.

Do you remember me next time, if I announce a new update? But this time it should take longer, current version is stable and the next should then be a major update.

@woaloo:

oh :) Do you want me as your partner-monkey? :p I felt in love :-o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chalex2005:
Well, no dice. It still jumps to silent instead of "automatic".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
but in Sense settings you see, that it's on automatic, right?

thanx for yout feedback, I must do some trials, I only have some other things 4 CHT at first and I want to do more with sounds, so it's better I do that then at once.Hope this is ok, but I'll get back then to you, also ok?

(also read your PM? )

the other things seems to run smooth, so I can go on then later and collect ideas - perhaps there's something nice within :)

Ideas are already good for much versions so far, but priorization depends also on the feedbacks.

thanx for your help, I will soon care 4 it

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NLS:
Michel I didn't do much of a beta test yet (very busy at work plus I am still "smoothing out" my newly built -and tweaked- SBS7 at home)...

BUT I can say that 2.02 seems to successfully automatically switch profiles.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Thanx - and hey - it's ok, that not everybody has time all the time - no problem.

Thanx for your feedback here! Therefore you had problems with 2.0, it's fine, that it now works with 2.02.

Cheerz

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BoneMo:
bug

when i turn on switch in .. Main Settings - Change profile ->Change while locked.

it make HTC sense restarting and restarting in never ending loop when it tries to change profile from goodnight to savemyday and restart helps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
gimme your chtssettings.xml from storage card. It works in tests, so it must be somewhere in the settings or lock itself, which isn't consistent. I hope I can reproduce it.

but to be honest - I've wrote “not recommended“ besides this option, and already thought about to take it out, but then I left it in for non-Layout-profiles. some locks don't like Sense-Restart while they are locked.

Alternatively perhaps later also “unlock for restart“ - but then this wouldn't work for all locks

or “if locked - change profile only without Layout“.

leave option better off or leave lock off. CHTS would remind you for profile change, if locked.

which lock do you use? cht lock or winmo?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] angusc:
Hi michel,

Great program by the way!

I spent all day yesterday setting up my profiles while flying to work. I had installed version 2.0 before i left home and overwrote the built in ROM version that Energy built in to his 21680 29th Sept Cookie ROM.

However in Auto mode it will switch the profile but after the new profile is loaded the phone locks up immediately and I have to do a soft reset. currently i have not yet tried version 2.02 so not sure if this will fix this issue. EDIT no good with 2.02 for my problem, still the phone is locking up after i "save and apply changes" and then re apply the CHTS profile. Profile loads but then locks up Sense or the phone. the buttons still respond with a vibration when pressed but do not change the display. in 2.02 I have also activated the "restart sense for profile" option. And switching off the "Show CHTS icons" does not seem to work in 2.02.

Comments for your consideration:

1) can you make the CHTS status Icons to be moveable along the Sense status bar? i have a personalisation in place of the operators name and the Profile status Icon covers this up. It would be great if the status icons could be shifted across to the right by the user using an 'x' coordinate?

2) I think that I'm slow learner! but i could make a suggestion that the user manual has a "quick set up guide - to get you going" section at the front. my example is that we are all used to the original CHT and with the CHTS addition I was not clear on what i needed to do to get everything working to a basic level. After spending probably 13 hours continuous working on it on the plane i finally got there. however a few simplified steps at the front would help people to understand how CHTS and CHT 2.0xx gel together and the whole thing should work.

Just my suggestion.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fatmonk:
CHTS Screwed up my proximity sensor settings

I installed CHTS v2.0 along with CHT 2.0.0 (finally upgrading from 1.7?), but it seems that the default CHTS settings messed up the operation of my proximity sensor.

I'm now on 2.02 and have looked over the proximity sensor settings, but I can't get things working how they did before.

Previously the proximity sensor only seemed to do anything during a phone call. When the phone wa held to my head the touch screen would go off. As soon as I took the phone away from my head the screen came back on exactly where it was on the phone screen.

I've tried every combination of proximity sensor settings in CHTS and can't get it to work like this any more. The changes I make are being activated OK with the profile but the proximity sensor is now behaving odd.

The closest I can get is setting the general proximity sensor to ON, the relight to ON and the lock screen proximity to off.

However with this set up whenever the proximity sensor switches the screen off (phone to ear) and then on again (moving the phone away from ear) the screen comes back on with the phone locked.

Disabling the relight option means that the screen goes off and does not come back on when the phone is taken away from my ear. However pressing the end key then ends the call rather than waking up the phone.

I'm therefore unable to access the keypad or loudspeaker options etc during a phone call if I have held the phone to my ear.

It's a bit frustrating that CHTS seems to have changed proximity settings that were working perfectly.

I know the default settings issue is supposed to be fixed in 2.02, but as I installed 2.00 they now seem to be messed up for good.

If I hard reset to get everything back, then presumably the baseline backup I took will include the messed up proximity sensor settings, so I'm going to have to remake my layouts from scratch as well... grrr...

Or am I just missing something? Is there an easy and quick way to get my proximity sensor settings back to how they should be?

Cheers,

-FM
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Hi Angus,

thanx for your kind feedback.

the problems of 2.0 with switching in automatic mode should be solved in 2.02 for all. As far as I know it's working fine for most users. But sure - there can be device-/Rom-dependent things, which have to be adjusted.

The first question for me is: Do you switch the Layout,too? I assume not, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to activate Sense-Restart :)

The next question: do you have a 3rd party app or simply set “lock on display off“ in CHT? because then I would know, what happens. because chts doesn't lock your device.

then please try one of this both things:

- disable the automatic screen locker, which acts after Display off (you can lock it by priximity and timeout in cht, too)

or

- try another power mode in settings.e.g. the “very smooth...“ could be good.switch “smoothl of and this on. also full power is possible. it depends on the suspend settings, which you have in your ROM

please feedback, if that makes any difference. also attach “chtsscheduler.xml“ from your sd-card. and tell me, what is installed on your device, especially all system-near apps.

to the other things:

1) the icons position of the little ones is set by cht, not chts. and that's a part of Co0kie. perhaps you could repeat the suggestion im cht-thread, that it's not forget? for cht I made the system part (e.g. state indicators and toggle options and event interaction of cht) but not the visuality.

after release of CHT we can have a look. alternatively you know, that you can also use the resizeable freelinks?

2) a “Quickie“ for manual... you perhaps know, that exactly for the dev himself it's sometimes difficult to do that - because I wrote this app and so I also would decide what is a “quick-into“. so: I know the app too good :) I would leave out special things, because I consider them as well-known. and as user you would say, it's complicated, only because I had left one info out. so I simply documentated straight forward.

nevertheless it's a good idea from you! but I need help: what should be explained in the quick intro and what not? with the lower insight as a user of CHTS in opposite to the dev of CHTS, the quick come-in would be much better. who wants to help to make a structure, what should be in? Then I like to take up this idea and I complete the contents of this structure.

Thanx for your feedback

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ivwonka:
just wanted to leave some feedback because I just used this for the first time. I have been using it to save my settings, so when I hard reset or flash a new rom, that it will be easy to load them. Took me about 15 mins of looking through the app and reading the users manual, and the info still was not there. I eventually found it in the the separate app this thing has, the switchgui. it is weird that this needs 2 different apps. why can't they be incorporated? also, loading a saved profile might be added to the manual, or if it is already there, then make it more noticeable. thanks for the considerations. now I need to go load up all my quicklinks, because it did not save them. thank you, otherwise it worked as expected. tp2 manila 2018
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
the proximity settings are in cht, not chts. chts only schedules/profiles them.

ok...I also developed this part in cht... :)

switch the scheduling off the sensor to “no change“ - all are 3-state-toggles in chts.

then go over to cht editor and disable the proximity lock option.

then you have 2 quicklink toggles in cht itself for them. switch them off, too - and you have your “old behaviour“ of proximity.

then pl ay at first around with this toggles in cht

and only which you like of them - this use also for your profiles.

so no need for hardreset :)

greetz

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] angusc:
Hi michel,

Sorry...by "lock up mu device" i mean it freezes the device (not that it applies the screen lock).

Let me give example of how i use CHTS after making my changes:

1) i go to CHTScheduler then select the "main settings"

2) I make a change to the switches in the main settings page.

3) I go back to the main menu.

4) I select menu and then "Save and Apply CHTS Settings.

5) i click YES to apply new settings.

6) I click OK to confirm settings have been saved.

7) Then the Wait Time Cursor appears and then a message to apply the "Do you want to reload your current profile and Layout: WORK4ME now?"

8) I click YES. (If I click NO then there is no issue with the CHTS operation).

9) Then Sense restarts and sometimes it reloads the page and view but the phone is frozen and has to be soft reset. Or the Sense does not reload and I can only see my screen wall paper and the phone is frozen and i have to soft reset.

10) after soft reset the Sense launches and all working OK until the next CHTS switch or i make more settings changes.

NOTE: also the switch to turn Icons off in CHT does not work in 2.02. the icons remain on the CHT home page withe either "ON" or "OFF" setting.

Regarding the Quick Start guide, let me work on a few basic steps that I can remember from yesterdays experience and post them to your PM box (so as not to confuse anyone). Then you can see the steps and correct the errors of my memory or the methodology that I used to do the initial set up.

If other "basic users" want to add suggested quick start guide steps then they could also help by making their suggestions. But I think the quick start guide should only be basic overview and steps so as not to be too complicated. the complicated and detailed set up is already handled by you in the manual.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fatmonk:
Thanks Micha,

I thought it might be something like that, but I've hunted and can't find the proximity sensor settings in CHTE - am running v2.0.0.0R2 (is the R2 the problem?)

-FM
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
CHTS consists of more apps - and a light app to switch the saved profiles is better to see it. Therefore that is all accessable by quicklinks - where in CHTSScheduler.exe should be this switcher with an easy access?

CHTScheduler is for configuring and CHTSWitchGui is for switching the profiles and Layouts.

I got a nice idea - perhaps you've read - for a quick manual - and now also from angusc a great quick guide, which could make some basic things easier explained.

And thanx for your suggestion - I will extend the other manual with this informations, too. Don't forget - CHTs is a complex app - and so not easy to documentate... and mostly you find no documention here for the Apps - so you can be sure, I want also to make it better. And that I can only do with feedback like yours!

So thanx for it!

For saving the Baseline - only call CHTSScheduler after a flash and it will rememeber you for a Baseline :) Also if you try to save a Layout and you have no Baseline. Such securities must be at first in the app itself. Then in manual later longer explained, too, yes.

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Then I can also make a better, deeper main manual - thanx also here for your PM with the suggestion - GREAT!

For this issue... ok... I read it now after PM... mmh... Sense Restart failure is also a CHT issue sometimes. Does it also crash if there is NO Layout applied? And you only activated Sense Restart by CHTS Settings?

If yes: Let's trace more some things in CHT for it, too.

If no: Then I would search in .NET installation of device.

For both the offer in my PM could be quite good - so if I know it, that Sense Restart can be made better on your ROM, then we now much more about CHTS & CHT beta perhaps for next Releases.

The Restarts running good on most devices - please try it one time with "full power", if there is a difference, in this case, not "Very smooth"

Thanx 4 all!

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Yes - R2 is a problem :) Take the newest CHTE please.

And then in Lockscreen settings you find the one proximity.

the other one's are directly in CHT to find - inside the "toggles"

So you can of course still search in me the cause of your problem - but then in CHT thread *laughing* OK - without joking: I only enable or disable the Sensor because of this settings. And Sensor is not touch, while you are in call. I change no driver of it or change any system behaviour with providing this option. So there can't be anything messed up.

I bet only one of the 3 proximity settings are simply switched to on.

Please feedback here, if you found it and all is ok, otherwise I will help you again.

Greetz

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Hey Paul, thanx for the donation! Thx for this appreciation.

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NLS:
Michel. Seems not all is fine.

Last night it switched fine to night mode. This morning it didn't switch back to day mode.

I'll investigate for more info.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] morpheus1982:
I found the same issue when I was using it (uninstalled at the moment). I found that some of the modes would only change in you go into CHTS and reapply the settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
without your chtsettings.xml I can't reproduce it, mates...

it's working good for the most of us, so I need the specific settings.

and also, what you have already tried, e.g. my suggestions to try full power mode.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] angusc:
Hi michel,

Here is my CHTSSettings.xml for your reveiw....

Here is my answers to your questions:

Q. Does it also crash if there is NO Layout applied? And you only activated Sense Restart by CHTS Settings?

A. No, if i make setting changes then save and apply the changes but select NO to apply the Theme then Sense works all ok. The device will always freeze if there is any change of theme either by Automatic CHTS mode or I manually apply a theme change.

Q. The Restarts running good on most devices - please try it one time with "full power", if there is a difference, in this case, not "Very smooth"

A. The restart of Sense after a settings change and apply is always OK. it is only when the theme is re applied or automatically changes that the device freezes. the NetFramework failiure is intermitent and I'm not sure about it as I can get the Error message then accept it and Sense has restarted Ok......I have tried both the Smooth and Very Smooth power settings but not the Full Power one. I will try it and report back.

UPDATE: i tried with hte FULL Power option selected and the Smooth and others in OFF. Still freezing the phone when profile changes, it is around 50 seconds after the profile starts to change when the phone freezes. I see the connection statues all change correctly to new profile settings but then it freezes.

Like some others, i have had to switch to manual mode to keep my device running without freezing on Auto changing. In manual mode all is OK with hte applied theme so it is definately the switching of the theme which is causing the device to freeze.

I'm going to flash a Standard Energy ROM without Cookie or CHTS cooked in and then manually install both CHT 2.0 and CHTS 2.02 then apply the themes as per your suggetion in PM. will do this later today / tonight and let you know out come.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Yes - perhaps there were some rests in ROM of old CHTS_2.0publicbeta, which weren't overwritten.

If you tried it in automatic mode - have you also had activated, that Sense should restart? IF yes - could you try it without this setting? Perhaps it starts twice? Because 50 seconds for a restart... that's very long.

Do you have all widgets in CHT active? And also music player?

Because perhaps we search on the false position - CHT is also beta and causes freezes in some constellations. Perhaps that's the cause.

I will send you a PM with a special trial, if it doesn't work, but I'm looking forward to your feedback for the new flashed ROM.

Thanx for this helpful feedback!

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Symondo:
also hit a snag with this earlier

I'll try it again tomorrow and try and copy the error message i get. It only happens when i assign a set style GUI to a mode and try to change between them.

All i hoped to do was amend the text colour heading into the evening to match my 'lume' clock mod which i find easier to read with no back light.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Don't forget the "Details" of the message. The rest I don't really understand, what you made - but I'm sure, you will tell me at which point this came.

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Devian:
It might be because i'm sick today, but i seem not to be able to find the guide to the "party" theme mentioned in post 1 anywhere.

Can someone help me? Just installed cht 2.0 today and i'm a little overwhelmed by all the new settings i have to explore :).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Symondo:
Ok here goes...

I've applied a 'theme' ive set up to a profile (1 for day, 1 for night) difference is just the text colour in CHT but ive saved both with different names.

Now - switch gui... and here is the error;

"please install NETCFv3.5.Messages.EN.cab"

details;

CHTswitchGUi.exe

file not found exeption

at system.IO._Error.WinIOError(int32 errorCode, String str)

at

System.IO.FilesystemInfo.set_attributes(file attributes value)

at

CHTSwitch GUI.frm list demo.onclickLoadManila files(Object Sender)

at

Steadysoft.SenseSDK.SensePanelbuttonItel._notifyclick()

at

Steadysoft.SenseSDK.Sensepanelbuttonitem._onmouseup(int32x, int32 y)

at

steadysoft.senseSDK..senselistcontrol.on mouse up(mouseeventargs e)

at

System.Windows.Forms.Control._internal wnproc(WM wm, int32 wparam, int32 |Param)

at

microsoft.agl.forms.application.run(form fm)

at CHTSwitchGui.Program.Main(string[]args)

After this message my phone turns sense off. Ive then got to go and remove the set theme from the profile, restart sense and so a soft reset.

As far as im aware Cf net 3.5 is part of the ROM ive installed

Hardware details

Win mo - 6.5.3

Manila 2.5.2018

ROM: LIA v2.8 touch of glass
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fatmonk:
Hi Micha,

Close, but not quite.

I found the Proximity Sensor settings under the CHT Lockscreen settings in CHTE and disabled 'Proximity backlight off'. I had to briefly enable the CHT lockscreen to do this.

I also disabled all of the proximity sensor settings in CHTS and applied, then disabled the changing of 'Sense and CHT settings' in CHTS for the profiles I use..

After doing this the proximity sensor no longer works during a phone call!

If I then go back into CHTS and enable the Proximity Sensor (Proximity general) option and active that profile, the sensor works correctly in the phone call (and doesn't lock the phone, thankfully), but the proximity sensor is still activated everywhere else as well.

It wasn't before, and this now means that if I adjust the temperatur of the heating in my car, the screen switches off as my hand is too close to the proximity sensor. That's just one example of when it switches off. Using the phone in landscaoe mode for anything is also a nighmare as my left hand is too close to the sensor so the screen keeps going off as well!

CHTS must have changed some other proximity sensor settings as I have not changed them anywhere else (other than in CHTE since your last response about this).

Things are almost as they were, butnot quite, and what's left is pretty annoying when using the phone.

Thanks,

FM
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Hi FM,

CHT or CHTS have NO effect to proximity Sensor drivers in any way.

Only because of activating the toggle the Sensor is switched on also outside a phone call.

there is no driver or anything else changed.

I asked you, to set in CHTS the settings for proximity to “don't change it“ of the 3-state-toggles and afterwards to switch off all in CHTEditor and the proximity-toggles of CHT.

Then nothing can be active for it, which would come of any CHT/E/S-App. inside or outside a call.

I don't know, if there is a 3rd-party app on your device, which triggers it.

please go to

HKLM/System/State/Phone and look for the key “PSensorStatus“ , it must be outside a call always 0 and while a call 1. This is the way, WinMo does it and this behaviour can't really be changed by any CHT/E/S.

you are using an quite old stock ROM, is there no newer stock ROM of your provider - probably there is the problem, that system has not always the intended behaviour?

if you are not sure, that you have made all CHT settings correct, please extract

hklm/software/htc/manila

as textfile and also attach chtssettings.txt of your storage card. then I will take a look for 'em.

I understand your annoyance of your PSensor, but really - it is not changed, if you made the settings, I said.plz feedback

Regards

Micha