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[Hero CDMA Android Development] oldjackbob:
Nfinite, in answer to the question you posed, there are a number of reasons some people might feel a need to flash other stuff over your latest rom.

1) They might just think you forgot to post up a custom kernel for this new rom in the OP. In fact, you did have a custom kernel in the OP until yesterday, but it's gone now. Some folks might just presume that you forgot to post one up ... after all, in all of your other custom rom threads you have suggested kernels that work well with those roms. So some folks might naturally presume that the omission of a kernel in yesterday's update was merely an oversight on your part. Those folks almost expect you to have a kernel for them to flash.

2) A great many folks just presume, from long experience, that "you're supposed to" flash a kernel with any new rom they try. Heck, it's almost a conditioned behavior for them to expect to have to flash a kernel after flashing a new rom!

3) Not meaning to inflame, just stating the facts, but you never specifically told them in the OP (or anywhere else) that they shouldn't flash any kernels over the latest rom update. So there are probably some folks here right now who don't even understand why you're upset.

4) No one is a perfect communicator, including yourself. There are several things you say (and don't say) in the OP that can be misunderstood. One is your statement that the rom is "overclocked to 691 no perf-lock", but it isn't clear from that whether it is CAPABLE of running at any greater (or lesser) speed. In fact, again in post #394 you say that the rom is "set to 691 OC", which could be construed by some readers that the clockspeed is locked at 691. So someone who wants to run at any speed other than 691 might think he needs to run a custom kernel! Another statement that you never made in the OP (but that you made in post #394) is that the rom is UV'd! Heck, no one has even heard of a ROM being UV'd before ... some kernels are, but a ROM?? Wow, that's news to everybody, and they couldn't have known that just by reading the OP. So anyone who wants UV just naturally will presume that they HAVE to run a UV'd kernel. And again, you never told them not to!

5) You never actually made any statement in your OP to the effect that the rom is complete as-is, and doesn't NEED any kernel flashed over it. Nor did you specifically state that folks SHOULDN'T flash anything over it.

Just saying, nfinite, that there are a number of reasons that some folks might want to flash something over your latest release.

All that being said, it's a well-known fact that I'm your BIGGEST fan, and I only wrote all of this to help you understand who some people do what they do.

And like many folks in this thread have already said, thanks for everything you do for us, nfinite! ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bmacstudio:
A guy like me....I read just enough to be dangerous. I read that other people are installing a few different kernals, and think I'm supposed to. If there was a statement in the first post of the thread that said to use this thing as is, I would use it as is.

So, that said, how do I remove an installed kernal?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ItsDon:
I'm just waiting for nfinite to drop the new, optimized, non A2SD odex version!

Edit: Thinking about this further, if my SD card is not formatted to accept A2SD would installing Update 2 Odex A2SD version give me all the benefits (691 kernel mainly) of the optimized Odex rom? A2SD will simply be bypassed during the install. Am I wrong in thinking this?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] oldjackbob:
Re-flash the rom, wipe dalvik, and reboot. ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] oldjackbob:
Very good thinking! A2sd is set up such that it should have no effect if your sd card doesn't have any ext partitions.

Do a nandroid and go for it, and let us know! :cool:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] metal666fukhead:
Stable #6 had major memory leak the phone started lagging horribly within ten minutes of flashing the kernel so I checked the available memory and it just kept dropping...once it got down to about 17 mb available I couldn't even use the phone anymore
[Hero CDMA Android Development] c00ller:
Oldjackbob is right; as long as you don't have an Ext partition on your SD card, it should be just like you flashed the version without a2sd
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bmacstudio:
Okay, that's what I did...What should it be listing for Kernal Version?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ItsDon:
I just did it as well. Kernel is jason@bluecove#2 (I recognize that from a Zenulator rom) and my internal storage didn't change (still have 80MB free). I'll use it for a while and see how it goes. I'll report back later.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] oldjackbob:
Man, I'm really excited to finally have UV with the 2.31.651.7 rom!

The only problem I could ever even possibly attribute to UV was a GPS track recording issue when I've used some apps that are capable of that. But since then, Sprint has stated that one of the things that were fixed in this latest release was some GPS-related stuff, so maybe the problem wasn't UV in the first place!

I'm going to do a mountain bike ride later today, and I'll record my route and see if things are working okay now. I'll do two laps and record each lap, so I can overlay the routes onto each other later and be able to tell whether or not there was any issue at any stage of the process.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cephraim:
Never mind. Found it.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] scifan:
Hold down volume down + send + end when the phone is off will boot into recovery..

Think of it a you phones three diner salute

;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cephraim:
No menu-menu unlock

Well, I thought I had found it.

Seems like the HTClockscreen-nomunu-flipz file that disabled menu-menu unlock before does something wacky on this version.

Anybody aware of a version that works with .7?

Also, what's the easiest way to revert to the vanilla lockscreen? (Didn't nandroid before this simple install...)

Thanks,

Eph
[Hero CDMA Android Development] c00ller:
Do you mean how to revert from vanilla lockscreen back to HTC lockscreen? If that's what you mean, then you need to make sure /system/app/HtcLockScreen.apk is there. If it's renamed or removed, rename or push as necessary.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cephraim:
Removing stock apps?

The old method for removing the stock bloatware apps doesn't seem to work with this release.

Any ideas?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] scout7:
I used Titanium Backup free to get rid of AmazonMp3.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] nfinitefx45:
you guys should all check out android commander great for installing and uninstalling and hell just about anything to do with your phone.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cephraim:
Yeah, that's what I meant. Thanks.

Still need a way to eliminate the menu-menu unlock "feature" in .7 with the HTC lockscreen, though.

Any ideas?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ItsDon:
So I'm a few hours in now of using the latest odex A2SD version without A2SD and I gotta say I'm impressed. Just one minor glitch so far, my Gmail imap doesn't seem to be syncing. I have to refresh it every time to see it. I've gone into the Applications menu and cleared the data for both Gmail and Gmail Storage and then rebooted, no change. This is with a completely unaltered version of the rom FYI. Any suggestions? Is it possibly a Google issue and it's just coincidence?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Outer Marker:
Anyone got a fix for the Market? I can't seem to download anything without a 7 minute delay before the item actually begins the download. I have wiped everything and pulled the battery several times. I am currently using odex update 2 with a2sd. I tried without a2sd and the same thing happens.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
My market is doing the same thing..
[Hero CDMA Android Development] nfinitefx45:
I believe the market thing is on google, as this has been happening on my droid also
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bodyshop:
Hey Nfinitefx, do we have to run the script to prevent OTA updates from installing or is that part built in?

Also how do you remove the stock apps now??? (it doesn't seem to be working)

Should we do without auto-task killer since you have the memory tweak settings?

Sorry bout all the questions but i didnt see an answer to those questions in the post.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] c00ller:
Just want to say, I don't think you have to worry about Sprint releasing anymore OTA updates for the Hero, lol :p
[Hero CDMA Android Development] oldjackbob:
Update on GPS track recording using UV'd rom

UPDATE: Everything works fine!

Did two laps this afternoon deep in the woods, and Google MyTracks performed flawlessly.

During that time, the battery dropped 20% in 1 hour 40 minutes, with MyTracks and the stock Music app running the entire time. That equates to over 8 hours of operation on a full charge, recording my ride and jammin' to the tunes the whole time.

I can live with that! :)

Nfinite, you are just AWESOME, dude! I'm all ****-faced happy with this new setup! A HUGE thanks to you, sir!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
As seeing that my nand backup from cm6 isn't working with this Rom I keep getting fc's.. I dont mind starting over with setting it up how I like but with this marketplace issue it makes it hard for this to be my everyday Rom..
[Hero CDMA Android Development] oldjackbob:
I'm confused ... what does your nandroid backup of cm6 not working have to do with this rom? You're getting fc's with what?

As far as the market not working, it's apparent from earlier posts that Google Market is currently having issues across multiple hardware platforms.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] nebenezer:
agreed, I was gonna try installing on my sisters phone again today but she called earlier and said her market and gtalk suddenly started working :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Well right before I flashed this Rom my marketplace was working fine.... and I'm not sure my backup gives me sense UI fc's and a couple other I can't name off top.. but it rendered my phone useless..

I'm still using this Rom in hopes that market starts back working...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Now it (marketplace) starts working all of a sudden..
[Hero CDMA Android Development] chefthomas99:
Would the Google market issues be in line with the gmail sync issues as well?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Most likely... servers were probably down
[Hero CDMA Android Development] CarbonKang:
I get a force close when i try to open my contact book. (People)

What could be causing this? Thanks

PS I tried all 4 of them, they all four get the same force close.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
I would download rom manager from the market and fix permissions.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Outer Marker:
I just found that there seems to be some shell commands missing in this .7 update from Sprint. cp isn't there, nor is echo. Also the bash shell isn't there as the default one. At least it isn't in /system/bin

all this seems to be causing some problems for AdFree replacing the hosts file. :confused:
[Hero CDMA Android Development] CarbonKang:
when I do that it says a error has occurred and it does not do it. :/
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Ok, I would reflash the rom, no wipe. No data will be lost, but it should correct the issue with the contacts app. Make a nandroid though ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ccrosno:
Android Commander is the best!! Thx nfinite.

Been messing with it for a few minutes and I can already see that it will make life a whole lot easier. No more commands through ADB Shell to push/pull or delete apps from the phone (Plus a whole lot more).

Just make sure to run the program as administrator and set the proper path to your Android Sdk Tools folder.

Also, I have been running the .7 Deodex update 1 (I believe) with absolutely no issues so far. I do not have my card partitioned to use the AP2SD. Runs smooth and everything seems to be working. I will install update #2 soon and see if it is working just as smooth. Thx nfinite for the fine work on this Rom. I don't know how it can get any better.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Is the sense UI sluggish for anybody else? I found that running this Rom stock but changing to launcherpro sped things up drastically...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] shilent:
Alright so I got my Hero yesterday and I just rooted and installed this rom an hour ago woohoo! So far so good, I see a speed improvement which is what I wanted. Some questions:

1. Rooting was necessary to install this ROM correct?

2. Is it overclocked to 691? And is this a fixed speed?

3. What programs are available to adjust CPU speed?

4. I got the A2sd version, how do I install to SD card?

5. What are ChainsDD Superuser 2.3.6.1, Busybox, and Dalvik to Cache. What do they do?

Thanks
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Nak131:
sense runs fine on my phone... does anyone know if any kernel can be flashed with this rom? i searched but nobody gave an answer...
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
It should work just fine... nandroid and flash ;)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] dawgz:
Thanks for letting me know the program, you can also try this app: adbWireless which will allow you to use the wifi network to connect to your phone!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Nak131:
thanks ;-) ill give it a shot
[Hero CDMA Android Development] nfinitefx45:
1 yes it was necessary

2 and 3 it is 691, but you can use overclock widget to change to other speeds if you want

4 this requires formating your sdcard to establish a ext partition then apps would intall to there

5 Superuser give you permissions to perform actions that normally you couldnt, busybox is tools for allowing things like A2sd to work, dalvik to cache is for moving the dalvik from your data partition where the apps are normally install to be moved to the cache partition which was origianl set for OTA (over the air) updates, which sprint will no longer be doing for the hero, so we are using it as it is just dead wasted space otherwise
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Hippie459MN:
Going to be updating to odex w/ap2sd update 2 as soon as I get home. Thanks for all your hard work. You are much appreciated here. :D

Glad that we can now move dalvik to the cache partition. Should save lots of space.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Man i hate to complain but why doesn't marketplace work... I asked a friend and his works fine.. it is an issue with this Rom..
[Hero CDMA Android Development] :
not an issue with Rom that i can see,am running this update and just d/l several apps from market
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ItsDon:
Google has had sporadic server issues today. There are absolutely no Market issues with this rom. The server issues are affecting Gmail sync issues as well.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Wow sorry I feel stupid.. it was something I uninstalled using titanium lol sigh
[Hero CDMA Android Development] shilent:
Nice thanks!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Nak131:
flashed the latest uncapped and it seems to be working just fine! not sure that my hero loves being overclocked, but it's good to know that i can try!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mahalocat:
Love this...thanks.

One question.....how do I delete the Sprint bloat ware.....
[Hero CDMA Android Development] GodHead:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581976
[Hero CDMA Android Development] GodHead:
I just installed this ROM and I don't see A2SD working on an EXT4 partition. I wiped everything and partitioned the SD with a EXT4 partition before flashing the ODEX'd Update 2 version.

Here's the A2SD Check output

sh-3.2# /system/bin/a2sd check
/system/bin/a2sd check
[ ] Apps2SD is launching...
__ _____
| \ |
| | |
|__/ | Darktremor Apps2SD 2.7.5.1 (2010-09-22)

[ ] GetProp Command = /system/bin/toolbox getprop
[ ] SetProp Command = /system/bin/toolbox setprop
[ ] Mount Point = /system/sd
[ ] Creating /cache/dc
[ ] Symlinking /cache/dalvik-cache to /data/dalvik-cache
[ ] Starting Apps2SD Check Program.
[ ] Checking for ext partition
[Γ£û] Ext partition found, but not mounted.
Your rom may not be setup to run Apps2SD.
Check with your rom developer if the boot image
is programmed to run Apps2SD.

Your partition may be using an EXT4 partition,
but your rom may not support EXT4. Repartition
your SD card to use EXT2 or EXT3.

sh-3.2#

So is this ROM supposed to support EXT4 or do I need to go back to EXT 2 or EXT3?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] LiquidSolstice:
I'm currently running NFX 2.2.1 right now. Anyone switch to this, and is it better in your opinion?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] oldjackbob:
I could be wrong, but I've always been of the understanding that none of Sprint's roms support EXT4.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Cool, glad it's working for you... let me know if you need anything else!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] oldjackbob:
Not sure that I'd be comfortable flashing a kernel over this rom...

Number one, all of the kernels out there are based on the .6 rom, but this is a .7 rom. Any problems that surface at any later point in time might be very difficult to trace and correct if the rom and kernel are to any degree incompatible with each other.

Number two, there shouldn't be any need to flash a kernel over this rom. This rom is already OC'd and UV'd, and if you want to want to run faster than 691 then running OC Widget or SetCPU will allow you to run any speed you want...no need to flash a kernel for that.

There is no lockscreen lag or headphone pop in the music app any more, so there's no need to flash a kernel to correct any of that.

I know a number of folks, including myself, have been rather conditioned to automatically think they should flash a kernel over every new rom that comes out. But nfinite has gone to great lengths to obviate any need to flash a kernel with this rom.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] benya:
voice keyboard

Is there a way to add the voice keyboard?
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Well said.. this is the first Rom I've flashed and ran stock and I'm completely happy...

Sent from my dope ass Hero .7 NFX
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ItsDon:
Absolutely correct. I've run the odex A2SD version (without A2SD enabled) with no other modifications since yesterday and it is the best my phone has ever been, including every iteration of Froyo out there. Battery life is stellar.

I struggled with this as well until someone here suggested "Vlingo", best suggestion ever, works perfect. The keyboard is nearly identical to the AOSP Voice keyboard and it works BETTER (much faster and more accurate) than Googles Voice Actions in Froyo.

I simply can't believe how much better my phone runs with this rom, nfinite you are a star!
[Hero CDMA Android Development] nfinitefx45:
to the best of my knowledge there is no keernel out yet that support ext4 on the hero, you need to revert back to ext3 which is fully supported
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Outer Marker:
All this is true, but OC Widget will not overclock higher than 691 on this ROM, and SetCPU will not set to 710 and hold, even if "set at boot" is set. So, for all intents and purposes, 691 is what you get.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] Nak131:
seems like my wifi wasn't working after flashing the uncapped kernel so i reflashed the rom and all seems to be fine now. not sure if the kernel was causing issues, but im gonna stick with whatever kernel came with this rom for now
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ItsDon:
Not on mine but I'd love to have it! I miss the "update all" feature I had on CM6.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] nfinitefx45:
Market update 2.07

Here it is enjoy
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ItsDon:
Works perfect, thank you.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] c00ller:
Wow, awesome :D does the new Market work on your .6 stock de-odex? I haven't had time to flash a new ROM due to school, but I will def try it out later this week :D:D
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bdizzel1982:
This should work on any 2.1 rom
[Hero CDMA Android Development] klbjr:
There is definitely something wrong with the Market on this ROM. I have wiped and reflashed both Odex & Dedoxed versions about 3 times apiece since last night and can't get anything to download from the Market. I can download from the Market just fine on my Evo and just restored from a Nand backup back to Fresh and have no problems downloading from the Market.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] theimpaler747:
Any my market on CM6 have been fine all week
[Hero CDMA Android Development] igtheactt1:
Exactly which is why I said the same thing it is part of the Rom.. mine will work then stop workin.. and this time I didn't uninstall anything

Sent from my dope ass Hero .7 NFX
[Hero CDMA Android Development] klbjr:
Yeah think I'm going to stick with Fresh or another ROM till the kinks get worked out. Was looking for a rooted stock Rom for the wife but I'm thinking of just upgrading her to the Evo also. More Rom options plus the Hero is all about dead with Sprint having at least 4 newer Android phones to offer and more on the way.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] nfinitefx45:
ok what part of the is stock doesnt anyone uderstand if there is an issue with teh market then it was by sprint. but as I have used the market a few times today running this rom, I dont see a problem.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] oldjackbob:
I was having a force close problem with Market last night, and I fixed it by going to Settings > Applications > Manage applications > Market > Clear cache and Force Stop, then rebooting into recovery and wiping dalvik, then rebooting. Market has worked fine since then.

However, when I wiped dalvik in recovery it broke my cache-to-sd setup, because when I went to Settings > SD & phone storage > Available space, it was only showing 63 meg. So I did an a2sd check and sure enough it showed that cache was supposed to be on the sd card but it wasn't. And doing an a2sd repair didn't fix it. I had to do an a2sd nocache command (which is followed by a long slow reboot), followed by an a2sd cachesd command (which was followed by another long slow reboot), and that finally moved my cache back onto my sd card and gave me 135 meg free again.

So as a check, I booted back into recovery again and did a dalvik wipe, and sure enough it broke my cache-to-sd setup again. I performed another a2sd nocache and a2sd cachesd again and got my 135 meg back again.

My point is that wiping dalvik in recovery breaks cache-to-sd. I didn't know it would do that, and I just wanted everyone to know that it does that.

The good news is that my Market appears to be fixed! :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] scout7:
Market works fine here, even installed the latest .apk posted earlier and don't have any issues.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] bdizzel1982:
Just wondering why you feel the need to come in here and bash on nfinitefx45 hard work? I understand your having issues with this ROM and you would rather use Fresh's ROM and thats fine use his ROM if thats what you prefer. I don't see the point or understand what you think you will accomplish by coming in here tell us how bad the ROM is when most of us love nfinitefx45 work and are not having any issues at all.

Not trying to start an argument or upset anyone but since you all seem to feel the need to state your opinion on how bad a ROM is in just about every thread I read from every developer I'm stating my opinion on how childish I think it is to come in here bashing someone for a problem your now experiencing which may or may not in fact be the ROM but rather be an issue on the providers end or Google's end. I would just like to see the community work together to fix these issues rather then bash each other and point fingers to me it seems counter productive.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] ItsDon:
My Market worked fine this morning then I flashed Market update nfinite posted and it still works fine. NOTHING wrong with either Market in this rom, at least on my phone.