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[EVO 4G Android Development] myn:
Quick Update On RLS4

Just a quick update.

RLS4 development started the day after RLS3 was launched. Lots of cool stuff planned for RLS4. This iteration's focus is on user experience. RLS3 touched on this with the new Rosie Utility. Further work will be done on user interface and experience in RLS4.

One of the things that has been on the todo list since RLS1 has been a new app that allows you to customize settings in sense roms that you don't have access to today. This new app I am calling WarmTools. More info on this once we get closer to a release.

DJZager has been doing an incredible job theming the HTC_IME (With Arrows) that will be in RLS4. It's looking really good :)

I'll leave you guys with this. The new Market in RLS4:
[EVO 4G Android Development] elconejito:
Your phone sounds a little like mine, and maybe you can confirm a few of my theories...

I get pretty similar battery life/performance on RLS3 with Stock HTC#10 (which I'm pretty sure is CFS) and Kings #11 CFS. I tried Netarchy 4.2.1 CFS HAVS More and that worked really well for me. I got better battery life, and subjectively better performance. I will be going back to this one probably.

I then tried Ziggys 1105, which is a BFS kernel. Battery life looked really good, and the performance was noticeably perky... as long as I was "using" an app, if that makes sense. Meaning, if i was in the browser (for example) and zooming, clicking, browsing, etc it was fine. But for apps that kind of sit in the background, like music for example, then I'd get stuttering and pauses, and general laggyness. Subsonic was awful, dogcatcher was bad, and pandora glitched here & there. Sometimes, but not always, I'd get a little stutter when flipping through homescreens or between apps.

I am currently trying Netarchy's 4.2.1 BFS HAVS More and I'm seeing similar, but not quite as bad, results as I did with Ziggy's. Music pauses here & there. I get a little laggyness flipping through homescreens sometimes.

So my theory is that my phone just doesn't like BFS kernels, as compared to CFS kernels. CFS uses some algorithm to figure out task priority for the CPU, and BFS uses some sort of "simpler" way of figuring out task priority. I'm guessing that either my phone (or the way I use it) reacts better to the CFS way of scheduling tasks since it is noticeably smoother under CFS. i.e. My music doesn't pause :)

So i guess my questions to you are:

-is the Kings kernel you tried was it CFS or BFS? I believe #11 is CFS and #9 is BFS.

-Was the BS kernel BFS?

-For your next test, will you try a CFS kernel and see if that helps?

Summary

-For me the three CFS kernels I've used worked well (HTC #10, Kings #11 CFS, Netarchy 4.2.1 CFS HAVS More)

-For me the two BFS kernels I've used did not work well (Ziggy's 11/05, Netarchy 4.2.1 BFS HAVS More)

[sorry for the long post....]
[EVO 4G Android Development] rileyd5:
thanks

nice update! Looking forward to it!
[EVO 4G Android Development] cvalle08:
Can anyone post the flashable latest stock rom for the evo? Or show me where to get it I havent been able to find it anywhere.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
I consider the user experience in RLS3 to be awesome already. If RLS3 was the tip of the iceberg, then I can't imagine what the RLS4 experience will be like. Looking forward to finding out. I'm putting in my request with DJZager right now for a Laker themed keyboard, or a quick way to do it. I know I can do it from gimpsta, but a quick way to do it from the rom would be cool.
[EVO 4G Android Development] snrbobo:
OMG

:aoiehv"oiwvh

i.cannot.wait!!!! :d
[EVO 4G Android Development] Mich2Ga:
Now that's the ticket.... Beautiful! Any Icons on the way?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jbermi:
I have been using swiftkey since it became available...swype and 8pen don't do it for me. was wondering if it could get the warm 2.2 treatment for looks, I have not found out anything about it being themed or whatnot.

also, a question on the stock font flash, if i flash that, it reverts all fonts on phone to stock? I really like the warm fonts, but not liking what the fonts do in the browser, too light of a grey.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
I've sent you a PM
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cubfan99:
A quick way would be to black out all but the letters K, O, B, and E. ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] gqukyo:
Hey Myn, I hope you'll be releasing a version that incorporates the new OTA 3.30.651.3 since some of us have the new hardware version that power cycles as soon as we try and run apps like Tango (on the original 3.30.651.2 that is preinstalled on the phone)... :P I love this ROM though I would like the ability to use Tango... not a deal breaker at all but it's a nice to have. Keep up the great work!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] texasez:
Running rls3 and kings 9. On my home screen I ended up with two of the weather animated clocks with one over the top of the other. I only noticed it when they started showing different times. The glass themed clock was on top but when I moved it to remove it from the page, the bottom clock apparently is still there although all i can see is "lubbock" which is the city where the weather updates. Now I cannot install anything in the area where the clocks were located. It says there is not room although I cannot see anything there except " Lubbock" How do i get rid of whatever is in the top third of the home page where the weather app was? I cannot install even an icon in the top third.

Pressing and holding the open area does nothing.

NEVER MIND> a reboot fixed it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Bielinsk:
No comments on HDMI working or not?

I have not changed the kernel since I flashed rls3.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Cubfan99:
HDMI works for me.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
My comment is.....

I need to get a HDMI cable so I can check it out :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] tuscolavol:
+1 I've even system wiped and reflashed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Neotelos_com:
Is anyone having wakelock on this ROM, or is it something I did?
[EVO 4G Android Development] pcochran89:
Myn, any chance of adding in transitions and animations from xxBabiboixx's Carbon ROM?
[EVO 4G Android Development] myn:
Count on it :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] luieavila:
Different Notification Icons

Myn,

I'm running RLS3 on two Evo's. The set ups are pretty much the same. I have noticed that on the Evo that I purchased last week, Hardware 0004, the icons on the notification bar are different. Not sure what is causing this to happen, but I do know that the Radio subsystem is running really high on the new phone. I'm testing out kernels to see if this reduces the radio subsystem use. Any thoughts on what could be causing the icons to be different? Great work and keep on developing!!!

>>>Also, any thoughts on what could be causing the Radio Subsystem to be running so high. About 25 - 30%. Thank you!
[EVO 4G Android Development] TrimTripton:
This is awesome! I've had a difficult time finding a kernel that works well with my phone on this ROM. I've tried every combination and found myself coming back to the stock HTC #10, which is more than adequate on performance but still not what I would call over-the-top. Was getting quadrant scores in the low to mid 1200's and the battery life was not what I was getting with RLS 2. Kings #9 had better performance but battery life sucked using both Collin's battery tweak or SetCPU. King's #11 as well as Ziggy's and many others just froze my phne up.I was honestly within minutes of flashing back to RLS 2 when I read your post and thought, "OK, I'll try one more." Granted, I've not had a chance to try 4.2.1 with the battery tweak yet but with setCPU and your settings (with the exception of OC speed. My phone won't seem to take 1190400) But at 1152000 it is looking really good so far. My quadrant scores are consistently in the upper 1400's to mid 1500's and is so fast and smooth. It has only been about 1 hour but battery life is looking great so far. This is the best ROM I've ever tried and 4.2.1 just made it even better.
[EVO 4G Android Development] INebilim:
never really got netarchy to work well for me. it sleeps well but kills the battery. i dont really care for the OC right now. waiting on Ziggy to release an OC version
[EVO 4G Android Development] Neotelos_com:
No answer? Seriously, just look at battery stats and see if Up Time and Awake Time are the same...they are for me, so I have a wakelock.
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
Only noticed it when I was on nets kernel with setCPU on.

not sure if its the kernel or the setcpu though.

I don't think it effected battery life though
[EVO 4G Android Development] akazabam:
Myn, I see you were active in the status thread for the notification window power control widgets port from CM 6.1 that JsChiSurf just released. Are you planning on integrating this or perhaps making it a flashable zip that matches the rest of the rom? Can't wait for RLS 4, either way, though :).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=836721
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
While I'm certainly a big Kobe fan, I'm a bigger Laker fan. I'll just stick with the Laker theme. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kabobb:
I tried this ROM but my battery life is kinda sucky IMO. I fully charged the phone and it dropped about 9% of batter life within the first 10 minutes of being idle. I know this is a bit vague but I'm fairly new to the realm of flashing roms. I've read of users having great success with various kernels but I'm running the stock kernel. so that may be the problem. Can anyone make any recommendations on how to achieve better battery life...

Here are screens of my phone info.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
There's actually lengthy discussion about this quick 10% battery drop and why it happens. But the short of it is, put your phone back on the charger when that happens and let it fully charge again (until the light goes green). After that, the battery should drain much slower.
[EVO 4G Android Development] madiom:
Just an FYI, I made sure to by a charger that put out 1000ma and I can run GPS 4G, steam music while navigating and my battery will still charge pretty quickly.
[EVO 4G Android Development] neopolotin75:
Ok that is SO weird....I tried it on 2.4 SEVERAL times and it didnt take but as soon as I tried it on 2.6 its there! Who woulda thunk it?!
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Two things.

I know Quadrant scores around suppose to matter. That if the phone seems fast enough for me, then it is good. And I guess those scores can be manipulated but I have no idea how. Still........ I rarely ever get more than 1000. I've seen 1300 once on a very unstable unuseable kernel. What do you think I might have installed, running, or whatever that makes my score so low?

Also. Can someone post a screen shot of their YouTube front page? I know there is a new interface for it with this rom but I think I've lost it somehow, perhaps when I flashed an add-on (glass clock, battery icon, taskbar).
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kabobb:
Thanks!! I'll give this a shot ... this ROM is awesome

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[EVO 4G Android Development] kratos313:
Hey got a question saw this just a few mins ago will this work on this Rom http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=836721
[EVO 4G Android Development] groovdafied:
I'm having trouble installing the HTC Keyboard, the recovery installation aborts...
[EVO 4G Android Development] brownhornet:
RLS3 w/ kings #12 kernel
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
bastard :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] brownhornet:
lol.. I actually got a 1498 before that one but I didnt have shootme running to catch it.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rjohnso11:
Thats the what up
[EVO 4G Android Development] madiom:
Just loaded on this ROM it and its sweet. My wife's epic has something similar and I always secretly envied her for having it. I will say that it does take away your clear notification area background and makes it white, and the battery % in the battery. I might try to re-flash the clear notification zip again to see if it I can have my cake and eat it too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
You're welcome. And if you care to hear more about why the 10% drop happens sometimes, I'll be glad to explain it to the best of my understanding.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
Since everyone kept mentioning quadrant, I searched the market and found it. Just ran it and I got a 1368 (at least I thin that's what it says but the type is small). I'm currently running netarchy-4.2.1-bfs-havs-moreaggressive.
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
perhaps I should search first, but where/how do you get the 2.6 swype? I have 2.4
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
Oops, just got my first random reboot with bfs netarchy. First time it's rebooted with any kernel I've tried to date (only 3). At least it seemed to do the quick reboot and not the long one. I'll give some others a try
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
Still searching for a kernel that will give me maximum display on time.

Keep going back between net's and stock after wasting times with others.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Kabobb:
Sure thing... I'm new to this but I'm definitely interested in learning as much as I can.
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
If others fail you, just stick with stock. It stock it comes with myn's rom is pretty good.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pkmusic:
I tried that already and it didn't work for me. It just kept rebooting. I had to restore my nand backup.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jafar91:
I do not have winamp installed I tried using another evo that is completely stock and it worked fine. It could be an app I have installed but no mater what I select when I plug in the phone it says it is a drive.

Thanks for your input.
[EVO 4G Android Development] myn:
FWIW (I don't believe quadrant scores accurately reflect application load latency)

But RLS4 with the brand spanking new HTC official 2.6.32.15-g59b9e50 #17 Kernel yields me a 1310.
[EVO 4G Android Development] achllles:
How's the battery life on it? Better than #10?
[EVO 4G Android Development] myn:
Hard to tell. Litterly just finished updating TwoPointTwo to the new 3.30.651.3 base and the new kernel.

Will be putting it through it's tests tomorrow during the day.
[EVO 4G Android Development] arielb27:
From everything I have seen and put up for testing, I can tell you that I have never gotten less then 1200 with quadrant. My normal with #10 kernel is over 1340, and it's not OC. Which will lead me to believe you may have a bad phone. Since I see that all phones are not created equal it could be your cpu is not just right. I also can't go in speeds below 245, others can get to 128. I can OC pass 1276 and have tested over 1300 doing some other kernel development. So I know my CPU can run high not low. Yours might be setup the other way around.

See if you can get your phone swapped out with sprint.
[EVO 4G Android Development] whatsleft4her:
Is there gonna be a beta release for this updated build or is it just gonna be pushed out?

evo running myn warm 2.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] myn:
Testing is as important as the development. Buggy roms = no fun. You guys know I don't like fractions so there will never be point releases and always be beta testing :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jgalan14:
Nice to hear that this rom have come so far the power control.in notification bar will be the cherry on top :)(ala cm.6.1)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcrabapple:
What hardware version is everyone using? Just wondering because my wife has ver 2 and we have had terrible battery life on every ROM and recently it has been rebooting while in the browser on several ROMs.
[EVO 4G Android Development] whatsleft4her:
Awesome cant wait for my email any idea on an eta?

evo running myn warm 2.2
[EVO 4G Android Development] jgalan14:
version 002 really good battery life i can't complain
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcrabapple:
What kernel are you using? And are you using the battery tweak? How long does your battery last?

I just really want this thing to make it through a whole day for her.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jgalan14:
I'm using kernel #10(the one the comes with the rom, and not task killers or the collin_ph hack, also i only use 4G for big files always 3G, and i usually get 13 hrs+, you have to take notice that when she wakes up in the morning for work or school, and disconect the phone the battery will drop fast for the firs 10% so what i usually do is check mail, twitter, msgs, etc, and after i'm done probably drop 6-7% and plug it back in while i get ready, then is 100% again and will start counting from there i run system panel to see if any new app is messing with my battery like like qik or tango, other then that gps and sync is on at all times, and tweedeck syncs every hour. my screen time varies from2.5/3+ hours
[EVO 4G Android Development] Death-M0nk:
Myn, I suggested earlier that an adblock hosts file in WarmUpdater (or I think the new WarmTools program you made now) would be a good idea. I just learned that pushing a custom hosts file has been known to break 4G in the web browser (maybe in other programs as well). I found this post on XDA that says there is a fix. I'm not a coder or a dev by any means, so I'm not sure how much this complicates things. Here's the post (credit to the poster):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9149850&postcount=4030
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcrabapple:
Thanks! I really appreciate the info. It'll really help me track down the problem. Hard to figure it out when it's someone else's phone, ya know? Even someone I know as well as my wife.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jgalan14:
Not problem at least your wife let you look into it my wife doesn't mind if I play with her phone or text msg anyone but she hates if I mess around with roms she says I.make her phone unstable so she runs stock and yeah system panel is a great app to track down dump apps that don't sleep lol
[EVO 4G Android Development] jbermi:
how heavy of an user is she?

I was getting about 12-14 before i tried doing the unplug routine, not sure why it wors or how it works, but i do know it helps.

I am getting 14-16 hours (3-4 hours of awake time) before it tells me to plug it in usings kings #11 CFS, setCPU for screen off profile along with green power for managing my wireless networks when screen off.

so much better than what i got pre-root.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcrabapple:
Cool I'll check out that app. Thanks.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
To be honest, I really don't even know what quadrant measures. But all the cool kids seemed to running it, so I wanted to seem cool too. :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] jgalan14:
Well it works great for me to unplug and plug it back in, what works evenbetter is if you have a spare batter charge it and when you off to work in the mornig you Wil see the 100 % battery last longer then normal
[EVO 4G Android Development] jcrabapple:
She gets maybe 8-10 with little use. I'm talking about while she's at work and only picks it up a couple times to check email, twitter, FB. I need to check her awake time and set up a profile for SetCPU. I was using setCPU to OC but she was getting reboots while in the browser and I thought that might be the cause. She doesn't need it OC'd anyway. I think I flashed kings #11 CFS.

I really appreciate all the info and feedback guys.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jbermi:
I have found what really sucks the life out of my battery some days is when I am just killing time playing angry birds. :o

but now it sips my battery instead of chugging it all down before I rooted. (can't believe I waited nearly 5 months to root it)
[EVO 4G Android Development] peekeesh:
need help. I am using this rom and it's been great so far. this afternoon I got a message from sprint saying a mandatory update is needed for the voicemail app. i downloaded it and tried to install but it failed. it just said installation unsuccessfull.

How do i install this update? the icon that shows on the upper left corner is pretty annoying.

thanks!
[EVO 4G Android Development] sobis1dm:
Here's one I haven't seen posted yet:

Flashed myn no problem, love it, had it for a week or two, zero problems. Per the last 13904 pages of the thread, I too got ultra-conscious of my battery and decided to flash King's #11 just to see what would happen. Since then, ALL of my SMS messages are failing. I'll send it, and within 5 seconds I'll get a notice letting me know that the sending was terminated.

I'm going to flash back to the stock kernal regardless, because I drained 25% battery in 41 minutes of uptime, but I just wondered if anyone's come across this bug?
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
Well from what I understand, the Evo doesn't do trickle charging. It uses a floating charge. So once the battery is fully charged, it will stop charging even though it is still plugged in. So it is running off battery power. It will run off battery until a preset threshold (perhaps 90%), at which point it will start charging again. So if you charge overnight, the problem is you can't tell where you are in this charge cycle since the light will always show green. If you are closer to 90% when you unplug, the meter will adjust itself to the true battery level. Which makes it seem like the battery is draining fast. I hope that makes sense to you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jgalan14:
If you running rls 3 I believ you have the latest update I haven't seen any other update for the app
[EVO 4G Android Development] jbermi:
i did encounter this problem(i am using kings #11, too), but i rebooted, and it was fine and had no issues with my texts.
[EVO 4G Android Development] redexile:
having issues installing angry birds from market. saying installation unsuccessful. also tried running .apk file but same result. also happens when i tried to download deadpool live wallpaper which works fine with my friends evo that is also running myn's twopointtwo. already tried hard reset & reloading rom. anyone have any thoughts?
[EVO 4G Android Development] sobis1dm:
Ya, that was the first thing I did. It still did it, though it seems to be okay now. But I'm still losing juice like a.... thing that loses a lot of juice. But this isn't a battery issue, haha. I just wondered what would cause a kernel to destroy SMS capability.
[EVO 4G Android Development] luckylui:
King kernel does that to me too.. I just use memory booster instead of rebooting all the time.

Sent from my phone.. I think using EViO???
[EVO 4G Android Development] todah09:
O-town. 4g rocking

sent from a terminal in the nightlands!!!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] skeith223:
I have had bad battery for about three days and know Im getting about 11 hours with heavy use, I narrowed it down to ANGRY BIRDS that app was just destroying my battery, its not worth downloading to me again thanks all for your help....:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] gqukyo:
If that doesn't call for a donation, I don't know what is... :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] lopezpm:
I'm on 3 and battery life has been great.
[EVO 4G Android Development] myn:
Thanks for this information :)

I was not aware of this nuance with the ad blocking.

This is on the agenda for the WarmTools app.

;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] bjaxon:
I just did the same thing with my phone. I used unrevoked 3 this time as I had used toasts method with my release evo. It works just fine. I have full root to do anything.
[EVO 4G Android Development] peekeesh:
Yea i am running rls3. Not sur why am getting that message.
[EVO 4G Android Development] etymos:
hey MYN . loving the rom .question. any chance of having a CLEAR taskbar option just like the transparent taskbar option for this rom .AGAIN .....LOVING THE ROM
[EVO 4G Android Development] Oakley707:
I thought I was the only one who had this issue. I don't know what causes this error or why this method works, but if I unmount my SD card and install Angry Birds and then re-mount the SD card and use Titanium Backup to get data back everything works fine. Just my .02.
[EVO 4G Android Development] bdelbenes:
Anyone having problems applying the theme for LauncherPro?