yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Android Development] tuscolavol:
Ageesm, I've used DT's for a while now (still rls5). On Terminal Emulator it says the apps are on the sd card. With all the dialogue, it got me wondering. Where (if at all) can I go on my sd card to see what apps have been moved? When I look in Manage Apps, it shows only 3 apps on the sd. Android_secure is empty, in sd/android/data I see some files but it looks like it's mostly all caches. Titanium says I have 239mb in a2sd. Just curious.
[EVO 4G Android Development] myn:
Nice man. As I have said in the past, I like seeing what folks do to personalize their roms. It inspires ideas :)

Can you confirm you don't have a Camera effect enabled?

This negative feedback is actually great.

The reason we have these nightlies is to solicit feedback. We made a decision late last night (an hour before the autobuild) to try the traditional Apps2SD and use DConfig as the configuration for apps2sd. We saw there were many folks having issues with it.

It sounds to me like some of you would prefer the previous iteration where it was just automatic?

I'll express this feedback to the rest of Team Synergy tonight.

I appreciate everyone being so vocal and expressing how they feel about this decision. Back to Synergy's charter. We are aiming to have the best Sense experience period. If we miss on apps2sd, we aren't meeting our target.

Wicked work Mutant :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
Your .02 cents is spot on. Synergy makes use of the ext3 partition if it is there. Otherwise, it installs everything internally as usual.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
Wow, so I was on chat, and now they're telling me that there's no record of me ever speaking to anyone over the phone and no record of them promising me anything. At least my ETF is only $140 if I decide to jump, but I most likely won't. I'm gonna keep pushing them. This is the second time they lie to me about something.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mintilmidnight:
Thanks for hearing us out myn but yea most, of us from the looks of it, would like the automatic method where we wouldn't have to even think about it :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mintilmidnight:
Did you look at cirehawks post? Maybe it can be of some use? Don't they send you an email of the chats you have online or did you talk to them through phone only?
[EVO 4G Android Development] jimbobcooterrooter:
3D is S-On

Here is the proof everyone has been asking to see.

Sent from either my synergized EVO/Honetcomb Nook/or 1.7 OC Xoom.
[EVO 4G Android Development] windehawk:
Is anyone that is running the 6/15 nightly having force close issues w/ the calendar? I did a complete wipe and have tried rebooting and clearing c and dc to no avail. Just wondering if this is a common problem otherwise I may try and wipe again and reinstall.

Carousel sense 3.0 working very nicely, so I'd prefer not to go back to 6/10 (best for me so far).

Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
Well the CM part of it is only a modified script that CM uses to automatically put downloaded apps on .android_secure. CM doesn't use ext (and actually the devs generally frown upon it). As I understand it Virus modded that to use the ext, so we don't have to worry about it.

Not wiping .android_secure AND sd-ext seem to cause problems for some people coming from other roms, but the method of a2sd used doesn't really matter, I think they would conflict if not wiped anyway...

I believe in Synergy it is mounted to /system/sd, so inside there will be /app, /app-private etc etc...I've seen it mounted in other places with other roms though.

If those 3 apps are showing on sd card in Manage Apps they are likely in .android_secure. But you can't browse that folder like you would a normal one, I don't think it shows up right.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
I was Jones'ing for the Transformer really bad. Got great reviews and the price was very good compared to the iPad2, the Xoom (which I got my wife), and the HTC Flyer (HTC is out of their mind if they think I will pay as much for a 7" tablet as I did for a 10.1" tablet). Even with the relatively good price, I was still going back and forth about whether to get the Transformer. Based on comments from some of you, I decided to try the Nook for a bit. To be honest, I was sort of hoping I wouldn't be too thrilled with it and that I would return it within the 14 day return period. I'm not sure if it's the techie in me (always rooting), but I'm loving this NC. Can't beat the price and the performance is great when overclocked to 1.2ghz. There are no camera's, but that's something I don't think is needed on a tablet anyway since I take my pictures with the EVO. The only thing I wish it had is built in bluetooth (and MAYBE a mic).
[EVO 4G Android Development] ira9700:
Just my humble beta testers opinion +1 vote for the auto ap2sd

Keep up the great work team Synergy it's like having a new phone every nightly
[EVO 4G Android Development] mintilmidnight:
All the techies love the ones they can mess with the most lol I'm interested in the NC actually and imma borrow my sisters when she gets it to try to have since fun with it, if it's worth it it might become a temporary one unroll something worthwhile comes along

I see the need for bluetooth mic is optional and camera really unnecessary on tablets in my eyes lol maybe a FFC but that's it
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
This F(RED). I'd highly recommend talking with customer retention.
[EVO 4G Android Development] cirehawk:
Ain't that the truth! The beauty of the NC is that you can put an image on an SD card and try out your sister's without ever messing with the internal setup. Pop out the SD card, reboot, and she's right back in her Nook setup. Regarding BT, I'd like it to wirelessly connect with my headsets. It's not a must since I do that with my EVO, but would be handy for the times I'm actually playing media files on the NC. The mic is just the same. Maybe there would be a time I'm using Evernote on the NC and want to take an audio note. Not a big deal, but could be useful. Totally agree about the cameras though. Not needed at all. A front facing one would only be an added bonus (but then again it would probably add to the cost).
[EVO 4G Android Development] Product F(RED):
They promised to resolve it over the phone, with no confirmation whatsoever. I have a copy of the chat I just had with them. I was transfered to 4 different reps in 1 chat session.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mintilmidnight:
Damn just remember to keep your cool and talk with them again and again, call all of their numbers til you get the answer you want man and be sure that everyone here is rooting for you to get the upgrade! Good luck
[EVO 4G Android Development] mintilmidnight:
Thanks that's actually good not having to undo everything lol

I love evernote it is amazing for all those note taking situations :D

Wish these manufacturers would just make a perfect tablet already :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Evan, if you have a paypal account, set up a DONATE TO ME thingy so that those of us who want to can show our appreciation to your modding talents....:D
[EVO 4G Android Development] dan0412:
I just wiped all and reflashed 6/14 to test this again; after installing a couple apps, the secure partition on the SD is still empty. Do you know what apps are installed there by default? Thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] Solicitous:
Anyone check out this article? It features the HTC Kingdom

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-kingdom-soars-into-fccs-database-wimax-radio-signals-a-spr/
[EVO 4G Android Development] mintilmidnight:
+1

I totally think that is an awesome idea, yes very talented at what he does
[EVO 4G Android Development] mintilmidnight:
I wonder if it's going to be as aggressively advertised as the evo line though...
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
here ya go

get this working on evo and nc please :)

http://www.talkandroid.com/14502-looxcie-a-bluetooth-video-camera-headset-for-android-phones/
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
Regarding a2sd:

The DT (DarkTremor) script allows for a lot more customization. Example:

You don't want your dalvik-cache on SD? You can move it back to internal.

You want apps internal and cache external? No problem.

You want to change memory heap size? Doable.

You want to move EVERYTHING internal? Ok, no problem.

I posted in here a couple of days ago. I have a class 10 Patriot 16gb SD card. For some reason (after reformatting it, and doing other tests on it) a2sd slows things down. I get scrolling lag on XDA, or doing anything with multiple pages. I get lag swapping between homescreens.

So I tested the rooted stock Sprint GB rom (odexed and deodexed). I tried it both with a2sd on and off. I tried it with apps on the SD card and Dalvik internal, and vice versa. Every test I ran, I had lag and scrolling issues with Dalvik on my SD card. As soon as I moved Dalvik to internal memory, even WITH the apps on the SD card the lag went away.

Bad SD card? Possibly. Speed tests on the card (SD Card Speedtest app in the market) show 8-10mb write and 14-18mb read. I'm thinking the card is fine.

In any event, putting the DT a2sd on this ROM would allow me to move things around. My alternative is to re-write the scripts EVERY TIME I FLASH one of these ROMs, figure out how to make DT a2sd work on this ROM (when every time I've tried it I get bootloops or freezes) or go back to CM 7 which I'd rather not do.

DT a2sd can be run from init scripts to set everything up automatically anyhow. There isn't any need to NOT use it. No one would have to 'figure anything out'...it would be completely transparent....unless you WANTED to make some changes, and then you'd have the ability to do so, unlike now where it's 'all or nothing' with no options.

I understand people not wanting to be 'bothered' thinking about it, but it's really not a big deal unless you want to use the extra functionality later, like I do, and probably some others.

That's my .02 worth. Take it for what it's worth.

Thanks,

-Steve
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Check your system/sd/app/ folder and see if your apps are listed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] terrel_b:
Try clockr? It's not warm themed, but you can have transparent backgrounds.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Alright. It's time.

If you want, send me a pm or email or just post EXACTLY what's happened so far, and I'll tell you EXACTLY what you need to say.

Please include details of your plan.

It's ridiculous how unlucky you are.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sah0724:
Can I return to the white theme in gmail instead of the black theme?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Solicitous:
I highly doubt it
[EVO 4G Android Development] Solicitous:
I tried clockr and minimalistic text. I went back to the flip clock because it's awesome
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
To those who want to learn how to change http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=884060 into this, all you have to do is place [ URL = " before the link (no spaces) and "] directly following the link (no spaces). Then type the name you want to use for the link followed by [ /URL ] (no spaces). That's it. In summary:

[ URL = " http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=884060 " ] this [ /URL ] without any spaces.
[EVO 4G Android Development] KB112:
Have you tried an AOSP ROM and a Sense FroYo ROM? I think you might just have a bum camera. Sometimes they pull away from the mobo and you get issues.

I think i saw you post the same issue in MikGinger thread too? That's why I wonder if your issue is actually hardware related.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Modra76:
Actually the nook does have bluetooth. CM7 has the radio turned on and working with a really small range but people have reported connecting their bluetooth headsets and keyboards to it. I haven't actually tried connecting my headset but I have had the bluetooth on and scanning.
[EVO 4G Android Development] mutant13:
Hey doug, donate is in my sig....paypal....thanks for asking...

Sent from me EvO
[EVO 4G Android Development] ageesm:
Ooooh, a RLS5 user? :p. Just uninstall gmail and resinstall it from the market, you'll have the regular one ;).
[EVO 4G Android Development] busventinc:
Has anyone had problems booting up 6/15 stuck at the htc evo screen
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Oh okay and you're very welcome....;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] mintilmidnight:
almost everyone who did a full wipe
[EVO 4G Android Development] busventinc:
Well I didn't do a full wipe at first and still had the problem then I did a full wipe and still had the problem :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] JT man:
same here buddy!:o
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
please hang my donated (and deflated) US Dollar on your wall !

Purpose of donation - just because - that's all !

thanks mutant !!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rivertamer:
Myn.......Yep you can count me in the Synergy auto apps to sd deal......been working fine.....anything with a little less thought involved is ok by me. LOL
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rivertamer:
Lowetax.......Man cuz.....you are a posting fool.....I signed up in Aug and can't possibly keep up with you.....even with your tax season break..lol

Posts: 2,874......wow!!!!

Join Date: Aug 2010

Location: Jersey Shore
[EVO 4G Android Development] DrededStar87:
this....twice
[EVO 4G Android Development] zer0max713:
Same issues. Has anyone got the 6/15 to work?
[EVO 4G Android Development] tuscolavol:
Thanks and if you don't mind, I would like to understand (read noob).

Those apps that show in Manage Apps on the sd card are apps I downlaoded from a 3rd party, so that makes sense to me. And I can understand if I can't see them in android_secure.

But what's still confusing to me...

I'm still on Myn's 2.2 rls 5. I found the apps at system/sd. But isn't the system file in the phones storage? Is there something basic that I'm missing?
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Off topic:

Quick, don’t think too much .....

Here is the scenario:

1)	You want a 7 inch wifi only tablet, you don’t like the 10 inch tablets

2)	You have no intention of rooting your device

Which do you buy?

HTC Flyer for $500-600 (with pen)

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 $350

Dell Streak 7 $300

Nook Color $250
[EVO 4G Android Development] mutant13:
Lowetax....you are my hero....thanks very much, ill put it toward my $4000 moving bill, of to raleigh soon!

Sent from me EvO
[EVO 4G Android Development] midnightmaraude:
I've tried the 6/15 from goo and myn's. Both hang. :(
[EVO 4G Android Development] egzthunder1:
+1 on this. I flashed it a few times (luckily I didn't do a full wipe) :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
good info ...

it would seem to me:

when synergy (memory for 4 platforms) is done,

the warm 2.3 will have more memory available for the evo.

• noobs and those just stumbling upon warm 2.3 without a partition will have no problems with or without cm a2sd installed.

• those that have a partition, have most likely been using dt a2sd or cm a2sd,

and will have no problems, as is...

unless, they want to do more with a2sd.

ahah - there's the problem !

it's people that want to do more - people like you Steve!

get the hell outta here ! :)

obviously, you know i'm kidding

if someone is sophisticated enough to want to do more with dt a2sd,

then it shouldn't be difficult to changeover for them,

(after all, they are already making changes in a2sd)

and leave us noobs and stumblers happy and content that if we want to use a partition, it's a no brainer...

i'm just asking ...

does that make any non-aosp sense ?
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
I'm broke as a joke. School and bills is eating up my moolah and a job to help pay for those two or else I'd hook you up with what I could. But I'm loving the proliferation of mods you're doing. Keep up the good work dude and you get a Thanks click from me. The least I could do. ;)

Hopefully, when my Summer session of classes are over, I can start doing some mods as well again. :rolleyes:

Edit: WTF? That post was #666.... :eek:
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
hey thunder !

i would think the dallas fans can flash it with no problems ...

unconfirmed, but just a hunch !

did you see the ad in the Herald with Heat as champions !!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:
i know it's thinking, but depends upon what you want to do with it -

before you get AND after you get it.

usually want to avoid: i wish i had ...

EDIT: unrooted ? what is that ? :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] SUTHRNFRIED:
Finally got around to viewing your 2.0 skins...very nice work man!!! Cant wait to see you deliver skins for the synergy build other than the battery mods youve been cooking up..."thanks" has been clicked once again sir!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
I got an interview for a summer job today, so that along with my mandatory internship at the Texas Children's Clinic might make learning how to dev for the Evo 3D a little more complicated this summer.

Not to mention the hold it took on the throat of my summer workout program. Haha I lost 53lbs in the last two months, and I needed to lose 17 more. RAWR

Edit: Vanessa, here's a little gift:
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rivertamer:
Not one "wish I had" with the NC.......But you specified " no root"...... I Rooted and never looked back........it was easy and my NC is fast and works great.....for the money it is a full featured 7" android tablet......I may even read a book on it one day.....ok I lied... a magazine maybe.......but not a book....I don't think you will be disappointed...good support on the NC threads as well if you do root it. Mike
[EVO 4G Android Development] midnightmaraude:
are you saying a partial wipe will work?
[EVO 4G Android Development] vanessaem:
Can I cash that in? :p

Anyway, congrats on your weight loss. I feel you, summer is kinda tight for me but the end of classes should free up some time.
[EVO 4G Android Development] jackgibbs:
does anybody else have an issue with text messages where it's showing a completely off timestamp? it seems like it mostly happens when I get a message through my google voice number, but I just got one today to my regular number and it happened again. they're all showing 7 hours ahead. the time is right on the voice webpage, and I even tried putting myself in like russia or someplace to see if that would fix it, but it doesn't. I also flashed back to an old king's rom and the issue went away. is it only me?

eta. I should add that it's only the incoming message that's off, my response shows the correct time
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Thanks, for the first time I feel good about myself :) New GF and everything :eek:

**All gifts non-refundable. Cannot be redeemed for cash or any other form of anything.
[EVO 4G Android Development] smw6180:
It makes sense, but my point is that dt a2sd doesn't REQUIRE user intervention. I see no reason why it can't be the default. And I DO see issues with my having to uninstall the CM a2sd script than reflash/edit init scripts every time I want to update. That just makes it entirely too tedious to update.

If anyone is interested I got 6/15 to boot by the following method:

Opened the ROM zip.

Edited synergy-supersonic-06152011/data/firstboot.sh and added the following line to the end:

echo "Installing DT A2SD"
/system/bin/a2sd reinstall

Flashed the ROM

Flashed dtapps (DarkTremor a2sd) (download attached, all credit to TKirton he wrote it I didn't).

System will boot 3 times as it installs apps to the SD card and such.

Booted it up. Still testing but it seems to be fine.

Moved Dalvik to internal and so far so good on my scrolling lag. Plus it boots faster. ;)

Edit:

Oops. Forgot to upload the dtapps zip.

Edit again: Still working fine, rebooted it twice to see how it would work, normal boots, both times. All apps are working, everything's tight.

Last edit:

Still have plenty of room even with dalvik on internal storage. All apps on SD card. See below.

# busybox df -h
busybox df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 202.3M 64.0K 202.2M 0% /dev
tmpfs 202.3M 0 202.3M 0% /mnt/asec
tmpfs 202.3M 0 202.3M 0% /mnt/obb
tmpfs 8.0M 4.0K 8.0M 0% /app-cache
/dev/block/mtdblock4 350.0M 246.4M 103.6M 70% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock6 426.0M 211.9M 214.1M 50% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock5 160.0M 2.8M 157.2M 2% /cache
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1.8G 55.7M 1.6G 3% /system/sd

# ls -l /data
ls -l /data
total 86
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 Jun 15 18:36 Synergy-System
drwx------ 1 root root 4096 Jun 15 19:22 agent
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Jun 15 19:10 app -> /system/sd/app
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Jun 15 19:10 app-private -> /system/
sd/app-private
[EVO 4G Android Development] egzthunder1:
Nope. I am saying that it didn't work, so don't even bother doing a full wipe either.

@lowetax,

lol... it is sad, but hey... I am a Hornets fan anyways (at least used to be when they were is Charlotte) :p
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Thanks and .... I agree ;) I have a rooted NC.

This question is for a friend. I'm trying to be objective with my recommendations and he definitely does NOT want to root or to get a 10 inch tablet. That is what he knows. For the money, the features and the "ease", I think I am recommending the Samsung Galaxy Tab7. The HTC Flyer is way way too much $$$ for a 7 inch tablet.
[EVO 4G Android Development] midnightmaraude:
I'm kind of freaking out guys. I brought my phone up to the 6/14 synergy from rls 5.

None of my calendar appointments are there. Don't they sync with my google calendar?!! All my phone contacts are there. This is bad... very very bad.

Please help.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
did you check under accounts & sync to see if your calendar is scheduled to sync? if not check it or click sync now and see if that fixes it
[EVO 4G Android Development] Biofall:
Haven't looked into it cause I'm not on the ROM right now, but have you gone to Synergy's equivalent of menu>settings>accounts and sync>gmail>sync calendar?

EDIT: Wow gman beat my by seconds.
[EVO 4G Android Development] slugbug2010:
Don't freak yet. Sometimes it takes a while - a long enough while to get close to freaked out - for all of that stuff to syn back up. I've waited as long as 10-15 minutes for that syn circle to finish. If you are at a PC and can confirm that your google calendar appointments are still there, then you WILL be able to get them to the phone.

Breathe, it should be ok.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
Don't lose the feeling, my friend. Life is too precious and too short....;)

posting & replying via the XDA Premium app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] midnightmaraude:
Freakin love you!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] dougjamal:
I'm not experiencing any of that, however, what you described usually happens when the device is roaming.

posting & replying via the XDA Premium app.
[EVO 4G Android Development] dboftlp:
I have the link from Virus, thought there was a difference between his & Myn's branch.
[EVO 4G Android Development] crstfr:
hey slug.. i'm looking for the link now. i'm in your boat... really buying the nook for my son.... he's 8... for the price.. and to root!.. but there's a new 7' tab coming out in june, same price .... i ithink i read about it on engaget, android central, or android community... but its 250... 7'... made by. i think asus.. or man i cant remember.. but search.. .its what im' gettin instead of the nook..... to put it short, its basically how i wanted my nook to be.. !... so i'm going with the other.. i'll look for the link

EDIT.... FOUND IT!!!!

http://www.tabletpcreview.com/defau...android+2.2+honeycomb+barnes+noble+nook+color

THIS IS THE ONE I'M GETTING!
[EVO 4G Android Development] jackgibbs:
yep. after some googling, I realized that it has been happening while I'm at work, and I'm force roaming. durr durr durr. thanks
[EVO 4G Android Development] lowetax:


resolution and market access unrooted were the turnoffs I read about. this display on NC is outstanding. but other features on the view sonic are good. good luck with it when released !
[EVO 4G Android Development] xlGmanlx:
haha, i am back on the scene! that is until source drops for the xoom and i get my new phone ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] dboftlp:
Gman, you goin 3D?