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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] grayme:
The whole CHT suite is fantastic so thank you for it (all who have an input to it). :)

As for the time and location, I need to work out what it is that I want to do, but I think it is something along the following lines (this may give an indication as to how a user may use their HD2):

I wake early for our household, I like to read my emails in bed before I get up at 6am so I need it silent but switching on the network.

6.30am, I may get a call and I am downstairs, so sound on (unless I am still in bed as it is weekend or a holiday).

6.45am, I leave the house for the train, sound on. (unless not up..)

8am, in the office, vibrate mode, or

8am, at home, sound goes on

5pm, leave the office, sound on

10.15pm, sound and phone off.

Not sure how feasible this is! :)

Another thing that would be good that is probably a CHTE proposal, would it be possible to unlock by turning the phone over and back again?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BHS Interceptor:
:D That´s already possible ;) We also use our HD2´s and other devices in real life (with CHTS) and not only for testing... You just have to "play" with your profiles and not layouts for a few of your requests... This if for Mo - Fri (WeekeEnds are different?)

1) WakeMeUp from 05:45/05:50 - switch from GoodNite to WakeMeUp until 06:30, silent, network on.... You are using another alarm to wake you up, or you wake up naturally?

2) GoodMorning from 06:30 until 07:00 (yeah, I know you wrote 06:45, but you should take some time for breakfast, it´s the most important meal of the day), then, from 07:00 (or 06:45) until 08:00

3) OnTheRoad (call it "transit" maybe) using your needed settings, loud, GPRS and GSM, system also up for listening to music, reading RSS fedds (remember, GPRS ON, etc...), so that when you arrive at work, or stay at home

Now the question is 08:00 at Home or Office? If office...

4) Work4Me from 08:00 - 17:00 (vibration on, what about wifi, network, etc...?) till let´s say 12:00 ?

5) Then from 12:00 till 13:30, "BonAppetit" for lunch time ;) Here GSM/GPRS (network) ON (initial and permanent) but no Wifi unless set by Loco InternetCafé, but you switch here manually, unless you want to have two "Work4Me" profiles, like 1 for AM and another for PM after Lunch, null problemo, CHTS can all of that and a lot more :D

So, now depending if "4" is from 08:00 until 17:00 with a "manual profile or even layout switch for "BonAppetit", or as AM and then Lunch and then PM - this would be three schedulled profiles versus 1 schedulled and 1 manual..., anyway, then, after lunch and work, at 17:00

6) Afternoon from 17:00 till 19:00, just like transit....

7) GoodEvening from 19:00 till 22:15, just like GoodMorning or similar, wifi at home ON, GPRS OFF, phone volume and system not so loud..... and when it´s time to sleep

8) GoodNite ;)

Guess we´ve used what, 8 or 9 profiles? From how many available? Yes, 8 or 9 out of 22 :p

Some of us have used all 22 in less than 16 hours to check if this would be feasible :D

Yep, CHTE thread, or maybe OP would consider including some reg tweaks for handling G-Sensor as well, maybe also for switching profiles and volume, and even connections depending not only on time & location, but also on weather (clouds, temperature, humidity) and including in Loco one for speed, distance, altitude, etc., as well as... :eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
1. I have an idea to do that and this is then very useful for much users and straight-forward: In time-defining of each profile adding allowed Locations. if not in this valid location, time switch is ignored. so AND-condition will be possible. OR is anyway possible.

2. could you make a new chtstateLOG for me? (see FAQs how) And tell me with a little text file, when you activated what for proximity? it is something device-specific.

3. automatically switch between 2G and 3G - which is “better“. that can no app control. not wmll and not chts. because on user says, that he needs more speed and that's better. the other user says, he only surfs short and better battery performance is “better“.

but: mostly you know how often you surf on special places and how is the reception there. the lower the “H“-reception is, the better it would be to use 2G for battery. and so on...so it's location-dependent together with your own opinion and knowledge, what you prefer. And Loco can let you define this because of location.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
@all: I'm quite narrow in time, but big thanx for each feedback. mostly improvements are wished than bugs are reported, so 2.20 is running stable - that's fine :)

thanx also for the donation, Nico!

ys lso for all “nice“-postinga

Egotheist: I will work on that.

btw: does the users there made a russian language file for chts 2.20 and loco? would be nice, if it would be shared here, too - then I can also integrate it.

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] __:
1. Yes, thats the thing I've been thinking about and I thought you knew what I was talking about all the time.

Sorry for not telling you, what I've been thinking of and for wasting your time!

But I have one more idea just about this circumstance:

Is it possible to make CHTS check the curent location just before time switch?

That means: There should be in settings an option to make CHTS not update location all the time, but just when this is activated:

And just short before profile will be switch by time.

e.g. Profile switch is set on Monday from 6:00AM to 2:00PM.

So location will update at e.g. 5:59AM.

2. The wished files are attached! (I hope the right!)

Thank you in advance.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] egotheist:
MichelDiamond,

by pure accident I made translations for 4pda.ru users ;)

check out in attachment.

wow, it feels great to be a part of CHTS team!! LOL
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BHS Interceptor:
Gracias for sharing :D And btw, anybody testing and helping is considered a member of CHTS Team ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] grayme:
Thanks for your response. I go on the train and lunch can be any time so that is why my day seems simpler than you've made it. I did use to have my day set up on CHTS but installing v2.2 and Loco broke it! :o

But the key is that if I am still in bed (holiday, working at home so up later, or ill), then I want sound to come on later. I've not worked out if going downstairs is enough for it to work out that sound should be on, if it is then I have timed events unless I go downstairs when sound is on.

When I get to work, move to vibrate. That seems to work :)

Handling G Sensor to unlock would be wicked! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
hi mate,

no need for sorry :)

for 1. : could you try to tell me, how you would design it, that this can be adjusted by user, so I can review my thoughts

for 2. that now the problem: we are talking about a CHT-thing, not a CHTS-thing and so I meant the chtstate-Logging of CHT. CHTS provides a toggle to switch the chtstateLOG on/off.

ok, I also developed this state-part in CHT, so I'm the right address. But it's a more interacting or device-/rom-/configuration-specific problem.

So could you look for a chtstateLog? (It's the Log for the states of CHT)

Nevertheless I must know, after which action you see, that also proximity toggles of cht doesn't work.

thanx

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
thank you! great!

yeah - I would say: Each user is a part of the whole Suite because of feedback & suggestions.

But perhaps I could need later some special tests from you to confirm the correct implemention for cyrillic letters (and the other stuff). Can I interact then a bit with you to check it?

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rbillingsley:
:confused:

Okay, I've searched for this, but found no answer. It seems the originators have forgotten to answer the most basic question that all experts assume everyone knows the answer to.

What is CHTS?

Is it a replacement for CHT or an addon?

Additionally, If it is an addon:

What is the minimum release of CHT required to make use of CHTS?

and

Where does one find the most recent release of CHT?

There really should be a website available to keep users current.

I really like CHT and want to keep it current, but trying to follow what's happening through a forum is difficult, if one can't keep up with reading every new post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
Hi,

it´s me, again ....

I had a crash saying I have not enough free memory.

But on my HD2, I got more than 112mo free !?

What do you think ?

Cheers.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
it's a part of whole CHT-Suite (CHT + CHTEditor + CHTS + CHTSLoco). It extends CHT with the parts described in Post #1.

Perhaps I have overwritten the usual minimum requirement - which is CHT 2

Current versions are Links in my signature, but I will add it to post #1, too.

thanx

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
main memory or Ram? what's the % if usage, you see with task-manager of winmo?

I need chtstateLOG to see, what's running... but I would assume, we also talk about additional apps/cht-mods/-widgets/... which are running on your device like in Loco-thread, where Sense is too overblown to handle its notifications.

Else everybody would have this message and that's definitely not.

so let's have a look - which .exe was concerned because of too low memory?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
It was CHT_Wall.

Another thing ;

could you tell me why, at home, it does not switch to SpareTime ? ( I have linked Home position to SpareTime Profile). It has Afternoon !??

Cheers.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BHS Interceptor:
Hola, even OP already ansewered your post, just some remarks from me as user and member in "CHT" Teams...

The info about CHTS was alway posted in first post until pst week when new CHTS 2.20 was released and the 1st post updated and by mistake hat info was deleted. Sorry for that :o

As you write, a website should be available... XDA is a great portal for this and you also have quite some tools to keep track of the threads that interest you. If you mean our own "CHT Website", that´s a different question... we´re all just for the fun of it and also to help OP and users. We do have jobs as well and do this on or spare time, voluntarily and for free, so guess you are asking a bit too much, don´t you think? Atm I am suscribed to about 200 threadsn (here at xda, and many more elsewhere) and am trying to support, just like my fellow team member and OP several threads from CHT Suite as well as others besides the beta testings, so belive me, for us it´s also very hard to keep up with reading a lot of posts (we do read each and every post in "our" threads", answering questions (sometimes even the ones that have already been answered several times), helping (or at least try to help others) and a lot of times we do USE THE SEARCH function in threads and forum for finding info´s and answers before posting ;) So if you really want to keep on track of CHT, you should know where the latest info´s are available, as well as what´s going on with CHTE or CHTS, because the OP does always update those threads as well :D

Salut Chef, have you been playing with Android? Or left "logging" on all the time, or something else? We have not been able to reproduce this issue of yours, but now I´m also on latest Artemis and I might be able to support you guys a bit more ;)

Don´t worry Micha, I also checked and some of it was deleted when updating the post for the last release, but hey, you´re doing a hell of a job and have achieved so much with this past releases. Please accept our appologies for not having checked that earlier :o:D:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] __:
Here are the required files.(was a very long way)

And for not confusing the others, I wrote the rest of explanation in attached Text-file (in german).

Thank you for your tireless work!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] egotheist:
Micha,

I'm (and my HD2) at your disposal.

It's a real honour to me, indeed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
Not yet, but it would be nice to port CHT suite cause Sony Arc is making me rolling eyes :eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jimt007:
Boy, a lot of hard work went into this CHTScheduler.

I installed it on a HTC Touch Pro2.

Installed with HTC Sense deactivated and it installed fine.

Then I checked HTC Sense (reactivated) and that went fine.

Then I got a few errors here and there. It's far too complicated for me but again, a lot of work went into it.

All I really wanted was to have it change the wallpaper every so often. I tried other programs and never did find anything that actually just plain worked.

Anyway I had to remove CHTScheduler because of the errors popping up.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BHS Interceptor:
Hola Jim, yes, a lot of work and testing went into it :)

Really a pity you had issues with it, since some of the members of CHTS Beta Team also use TP2 and don´t have issues with it...

The interesting part, especially since there are some features I imagine you´d like to use, are tose "error messages here and there" taht could help OP and Team members identify the problem and point you towards a solution...

So if you´d be willing to give it another try, you can count on their support ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
cht_wall is part of CHT, not CHTS. your Wallpaper is too big or has a to high depth of colors, that it can be splitted into the different parts.

your profile wasn't switched, because you setted, that in known locations your timed profile shouldn't change. and this was a timed call, not a loco call. if Location changes, it would have taken it.

I hope the french translation will help you to understand this settings. I would say, that this behaviour is ok with this settings, but I don't know what happened around.

for the installed widgets: nothing else is installed? no system aplication or Sense mod?

then save Layout and uninstall widgets and tell me, if it's working better.

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
I also have more an more errors.

Sorry, I had no opportunities to note, but it´s something like "a program or its dependence is missing ..."

it´s really strange, cause at the very beginning, I had no errors.

[Edit] it´maybe the log I activated !? I will close it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
I see 2 things in chtstate-Log, which can interfere (one or both together) :

backportrait.exe is something for Locking, right? But does it tells WinMo, that it is locked? otherwise CHT can't mention it and reswitch proximity.can you switch it inactive for a while?

then Lumos: I have read, that some things, which can be set in Lumos, also caused trouble for proximity sensor (not light sensor, just look with forum search, you wil find it, too) could you also deactivate it for a while? (so long you can use the backlight toggles a quicklinks and adjust backlight by chts-profile)

Then adjust proximity by cht-quicklinks and look if it's behaving ok. leave chtstateLog running sometimes.

if all is ok, then switch on one of the both apps and look, if there is an interferation.

For “Anliegen“ : It would cause battery problems, if CHTS would look 1 minute before a switch always for the location. it looks 20ms after timed start :) but your wishes can't work full, because you would mention, that if you come at 5:01 in the location, your profile wouldn't switch.

but nevermind: I considered it already :)

only one thing, which you can't see (auf deutsch: wo sich die katze in den schwanz beisst :) )

checking cell doesn't use battery, checking Wifi without data transport also has not a significant battery impact. but as you said: wifi should only come in certain locations... how should it check location without wifi? :) and if it shall check in timed, then it wouldn't anyway check.

Therefore I invented this XCell mechanism, which uses Wifi only, when it's needed.

And the only thing, which isn't in 220, is the combination of timed and location as logical AND.

And this you wil get in next version, and then I think, it will work as you described it.

Wishes are sometimes different and I have to consider a bit more use-cases and also user-friendlyness. so I think, I found a way, where in UI are not much settings to see, what configures it besides the assignment and I try, that CHTS will do also this job more internally, that it works.

Let's see :)

thanx for the description - it was very helpful to review.

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Why don't you simply try my hints and answer my questions, before you give me such things again and again, where I have no chance to see any reasons.

It's fact, that CHTS is running fine on the most devices and so it can be only the configuration of your ROM/CHTS-settings itself/device.

or third party apps... but without chtstateLog , no chance to see, what's running. please search exactly for the word “chtstatelog“ in xda. it's a part of CHT! then activate it. CHTS provides a toggle to do that, otherwise change registry like you will find in CHT-thread.

And switch off your very-wide wall for your tests!

it's not directly CHTS - so I can only offer friendly help. that you can believe me...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
thanx - cool. (it's a honour 4 me, 2 :) )

I think since some hours it works on my device with all kind of names

so also for kyrillic - I checked it a bit, too. I need some more things to do, then I will come back to your kind help!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Hi,

like BHS Interceptor already said: without knowing which error messages and Loggs - there's no chance to track it down.

Therefore, that it's - like I said in my previous post to Cheff - not a problem, which concerns much users and is a side-effect thing - I can't cover up all kind of instaled Apps/Roms/Devixe without knowledge about configuration and interacting things. I can only say, that it works basically and considers all detailed former reports & feedbacks and runs fine on the test devices.

But like you know: WinMo 6.5 is a multi-tasking-operation system... and so you have much advantages because of it....but also the chance that some Apps can interfere together.

then you should use systems, which are not able for this kind of multi-tasking, like wp7 or iphone-os... oh... iphone can multi-tasking now (but only one hardware to serve)... ok then an old handy which can do only the standard things like phoning, sms,... or wp7 or so :)

there much is restricted enough against such possible side-effects...winmo 6.5 is more like a desktop computer works. I think that “like desktop“ is better in my personal opinion :) I like to decide on my own, what capabilities my handy should have. And Sense (with CHT) is a nice & flexible surface :)

But before I get too philosophic: without Loggs and telling detailed error messages (I bet, it wasn't all from CHTS :) ) - no chance, what your problems have been.

Regards

Micha

ps: all my personal subjective opinions :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Homer-S:
Hi Michel,

I installed the new versions 2.20/1.00

Could it be that it is much more battery draining then the 2.16 without loco?

I deactivated loco

I deactivated switching on Loco in CHTS but still -20 to 30% of battery during the night (8h)

Is it possible for me to switch back? Just uninstall and re install old version?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
It shouldn't use more battery - it should save it.

so it's a configuration problem or a third party service. why so fast switch back? (even I have fixed many things in 2.20}

why not playing around with it and look if you see the next days really a drain. how about chts-/loco-/chtstate-Logging? :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Homer-S:
:)))

the time ....

ok I will start logging for you and will send it probably tomorrow ...

I had the 2g/3g third party software in the past installed and had bad experience with it. thats the reason why I can not use this switch...

sorry for my impatience ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
believe me: it was more work to develop Logging than to switch it on :)

and hey: control wmll in new 2.20- thirdparty-part of profiles and switch it off, if you don't need any more than 2g/3g-toggle and profiling of it.

edit: my device needs 2% battery over night and this with using all 3rd-party apps. so Logging is good for compare.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Homer-S:
I believe you :)

do I have to switch anywhere else logging on? Or only in CHTS?

The only 2 task which are running during the night time is

PIM Backup and

Spritebackup

but this was running befor and I was around 10% with latest O2 stock Rom and Radio 2.14.50.04
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Yes, please also switch on chtstateLOG of CHT. and let it run the whole night.

The rest should be to see with activated Logging of CHTS.

Loco is off, right? then Loco Logging can be off, too.

And ... 10% which you had before, was also too much, I would say. Have you try to set shorter suspend times over night?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Homer-S:
sorry for that question ... where is the chtstateLOG to find?

normally I have during the night no data connection on, only phone

should we maybe swich this discussion to PN?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
chtstateLOG is in CHT a registry value. but I made a toggle, which you can find in the chts-links, to switch it easier on and off without registry.

could we use beta group instead of PN? My PN's are so much, that I can't trace it like in a thread in beta group. ok?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Homer-S:
I opend a discussion threat there :))
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
Here are the logs.

Today when I arrived at home, it switches correctly to Home, but at around 18h02, it switched back to Work !?

p.s.

I removed 2 of my 3 widgets, but it doesn´t change anything IMO.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
I will look.

third widget also installed? (with chts you can anyway restore settings)

I asked you for other system Apps and Mods, which you have installed ... and in Log I see more... could you list all installed Apps? (screenshots from “remove programs“ are enough )

very wide walls are off?

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
The list is long ;
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] __:
Thank you for the work and time you are investing into this!!!

First thank you for telling me about "backportrait.exe"!!!

I didn't even know about this is running in background.

I have removed it!

Also I have disabled Lumos!

BUT...

It's still the same as before:

Proximity sensor is still not working, when profile changes!

The new chtstateLog's are attached!

When, do you think, the new version will be available?

Thank you in advance.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lucioetotti:
Thanks very much ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ascertainer:
hi folks,

can i hide the icons in the bar next to the providers name? i looked for that here and in the manual but didn't got any idea...

if not can i chnge the location of them?

thx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stathis95194:
CHTS-Main Settings-Misc Appearance-Show CHTS icons-Off
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] saugbaer:
turn off in chts or chte :eek:

It is difficult because mode9 or lua changed should as far as I can remember ;)

It is the lua 45E83959_manila

see screen :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ascertainer:
@stathis95194

this won't work for me!

i uninstalled all of them and my sense was confused (but the icons gone) the softkeybar of cht was overlayed by the keypadbar after restart. afterward chts was installed again an now i can't swich on and of this icons like before but they are not to be visible yet.

@sugbaer

i didn't done what you remeber to because i loocked like a pig into the clockwork in that thread...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] saugbaer:
Then write me in german a pn and tell me exactly what you want ;)

I think you have the whole basic scheme (cht+chte+chts+chtl) do not understand :confused: