yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bengal34:
I could be wrong, but it should have enertial scrolling. One thing I like about the scrolling is the 'rubber banding'. If you scroll too far the text area compressed and then snaps back when you release. At least my zuneHD does and from every account people are suprised by how snappy the UI is.

With the UI as a whole it seems to be hit or miss. Those open to change seem to love it but those who want more of the same seem repulsed.

For me, I'm looking for something different and I like it. If you want icons on a grid then go for Android or iOS, simple as that.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
So you prefer tiles on a grid?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bengal34:
Wow, that was a quick reply. The tiles aren't static. They are a cross between widgets and icons.

The UI tries something different and I at least find it refreshing.
[Windows Phone 7 General] microhaxo:
Im not sure what videos that person was watching, but of all the video's i've seen (ENGADGET REVIEW VIDEO INCLUDED) every reviewer has said how snappy and fast it was. The videos made that apparent as well.

So my opinion greatly differs in that aspect.

Until i have a phone in my hand i wont know for sure how much i really like or dislike it.

One thing i've noticed that is a flaw in my opinion is the ability to quick switch between "Hubs" or apps. You have to go all the way to the home screen and THEN open an app. You are unable to somehow quickly switch.

I assume a lot of these issues will be fixed within the first 6 months after release.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gerryjoson:
No it's not just you.
[Windows Phone 7 General] rr5678:
It does look like a pile of ****. When I buy Windows Mobile phones, I buy them because the interface is NOT like the iPhone. It's NOT just a bunch of icons on a black background. I have choices. I can change the UI to whatever is available, whether it be Sense, Sense/CHT, SPB Mobile Shell, the nice Windows plain text UI or many others. I'm not stuck with one thing. I'm able to expand my memory. I'm able to run more than one operating system on my phone. I'm able to download and install programs not approved by Micro$oft. With this iPhone clone Windows Phone 7, NONE of that is possible. Stuck with a bland interface. No customization options. No thank you. I will stay with my WM6.0 Wing, WM6.1/Android Touch Pro 2 and WM6.5/Android HD2.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ruudfood:
I'm with the OP certainly with regards to the homescreen - it's bland and unimaginative. The fact that it does not support the ability to customise makes it an even bigger turn off.

That said, I use my phone primarily for business and if it has the ability to show my emails, calendar, contacts, tasks and can access the internet (also through tethering) then I could go for it.

But I'd really like it on my HD2 rather than having to switch to essentially the same hardware platform (if upcoming device specs are anything to go by).
[Windows Phone 7 General] paperclips:
Just clicked your source, got a quote from the article that seems 100% correct.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lonelykatana:
No worries about it :) I get annoyed when people reply in that way to me lol It doesn't sound retarded at all, I just didn't want to see another thread of flaming.

And allot of the time when a thread opens, and two guys are a bit off with eachother the whole thread goes to hell LOL:p

Sorry to hear about the girlfriend, you seem like a decent enough guy! she probably doesn't know what shes lost :)

I dont like the looks of it at all, but you never know that might change when its in my hand!

I kind of like the simplicity of it, i just think they've done it wrong
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
It's certainly not just you, but Metro UI is designed for people that like function, and responsiveness over flash. It utilizes a design that looks modern but keeps things simple and informative.

I guess HTC designed the over the top flashy hub for people like yourself. For people like me, we'll uninstall that. So it's not really an either/or.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Hirnteri:
At the beginning i thoght "what an ugly os". But now... I really really like it.

Cant wait!
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
What function do the tiles offer? I see no information, just numbers, and crappy animations.

Wow I see a new photo on the people hub, they must have updated their status! Now let me click on it and see what it says.

I see I have 3 missed calls on the phone tile. Now let me click on it to see who it was.

I see I have new email on the mail tile. Let me click on it, and see who its from and what its about.
[Windows Phone 7 General] janneman22:
you said: "It's crap". But why you think that it's crap. This thread isn't a race between "It's crap" and "It looks great":rolleyes:

BTW, i think that MS has done a good job. Because they had realized that the normal consumer* is BIG BUSINESS. That's why WP7 is just so radical. They have also done a good job because they have made something really different. Not the next android-like-iphone-skinned phone (samsung?:eek:) or a just an unusable-but-good-looking UI. They had made a fluid and original UI! Easy to understand and without alot glossy etc. Clean. that's the keyword of wp7

*normal consumer=people that want to work with a phone right out the box. They want to install good apps without surfing throught alot geeky forums. They want to access twitter/facebook/email fast
[Windows Phone 7 General] gom99:
You know the answer to this already, so I don't quite know why you're asking it.

What function do the tiles offer?

It offers general information at a glance. They provide a set of constraints and guidelines so the tiles will usually mesh well with the overall Metro Look and Feel. It's an improvement over just having static icons, which do not provide any feedback to the user. Tiles tie together that product recognition with feedback.

If you don't see any tiles or hubs that have information you feel is very useful you will in the future as developers become familiar with them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kidrythm:
It's interesting to see how members from different countries respond!

I like my customizeable htc hd2. The new W7 is kinda boring looking, and kickstands look awkward and fragile.

just sayin'.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gerryjoson:
If swiping is a function you enjoy maybe, also looks to have plenty of time wasting animation to me.Watch the pocketnow comparison of WP7 to an HD2, the HD2 is back to where you want for a couple of seconds while that WP7 LG is still fluffing around playing retarded animations like fading in and out and text spinning on and off the screen

One thing I really like in android over wm is the task switching, WP7's is non existent, go back, start swipe...swipe...swiping again, imho, it's really concerned with functionality......swiping and time wasting functionality.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gerryjoson:
Agreed.

.............
[Windows Phone 7 General] paperclips:
1. Tiles can offer lots of functionality. It's up to the developer to utilise it. For example, the calender live tile displays your next appointment and the weather live tile displays current weather information.

2. Wow, that is so much work. On Android I have to scroll to the page which has my friends stream widget and then scroll through the widget to see an update that I care about.

3. Typically on Android I see a little phone icon with a number of missed calls in a bubble over it like the iPhone.

4. On Android I scroll to the page with my mail widget which happens to take up the entire screen. Since it's the Sense widget, I view one email at a time and have to scroll through each and every one in order to view important emails. Yah, much less time consuming than just launching the app. Even when I have another email widget which shows a list of current emails, I still click the email to know its content.
[Windows Phone 7 General] fixxxer2008:
wp7 looks like **** IMO.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bengal34:
Tell us how you really feel.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jimecm:
I cant believe some of you guys hate the look of it, but thats your opinion. I love the look of wp7,i like the look of it over droid and ios4.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Basically a knockoff widget, wow!

YOU have to, and that is YOUR fault. Set the phone up to fit YOU.

Take the number out of a bubble, and put it in a tile, now its like WP7.

By the way, mines show who actually called, not just a bubble.

Yet again, this is YOUR fault. Not the system, but YOURS. I think you fail to understand the whole "YOU" campaign by HTC. You set the phone up the way "YOU" want it to be. Its not HTC's, or Android fault that you CHOSE to use that particular layout.
[Windows Phone 7 General] paperclips:
1. A knockoff widget? It's just a simplified version of one.

2. Is there any way I can see 15 friend updates at one time on my home screen without having to wait for it to change, press then next button, or scroll down?

3. Is there also a way that I can fit this on my home screen with one of these status update widgets you're talking about?

4. It should be more of a hunt and mod campagin then since you have to hunt around for these specific widgets and since they're usually ugly you have to mod them until they can fit in with the rest of your widgets.

You're only further proving my point that stock Android doesn't fit many peoples needs since they have to download multiple widgets and apps until they find something that can actually fit their day to day needs.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Yeah, knock off.

Can you do it on WP7? On the homescreen, my fault start screen?

Again can you do this in WP7?

You fail to understand the Market. Consumers like CHOICES, all of those Alternatives wouldn't exist if people were satisfied being told what to do and how to do it.

Your point just doesn't make any sense.
[Windows Phone 7 General] satchef1:
I can tell you're wrong ;) It's kinda my job, I work in market research for one of the big UK phone retailers. The number of smartphone users that customise their phones beyond wallpaper changes and customisation of widgets/icons (adding, removing, rearranging, nothing fancy) is roughly 8%. Less than 5% of Android customers have ever loaded a home screen replacement and less than 1% have ever used a custom ROM.

Obviously those figures are just relevant to a single UK retailer, but I doubt other sources would be vastly different. Sometimes it's easy to get caught up in a community like this and start to believe it's the norm. It really isn't, the views expressed here form an increasingly niché part of an ever increasing market. Truthfully, most users just want to buy a phone, spend five minutes setting it up and then get on with their lives. They will never touch advanced customisation options. A lot of them don't even change the wallpaper!
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
^ Yeah, BS numbers. I guess the AppStore doesn't sell a thing! I guess all the downloads in the Android Market are BS too!

Who said anything about a custom rom? Who said anything about a home screen replacement?
[Windows Phone 7 General] sonji3:
Satchef1,

You are probably correct but then those users probably don't hang out in XDA developers. They use Iphones. For those of us who like to tinker, who like our technology to fit us, who have been waiting for an upgrade to WinMo 6.5, WP7 seems like big FU. And as far a marketing strategy, aren't the non tinker-ers being served by Iphone and Android? So who's going the buy into this new OS? I like to buy my stuff and then use it the way I want and I love my WinMo TP2. But I if I have to deal with a new OS and will have buy new everything anyway, why would I pick something unproven and really late to the table? Plus I do think the UI is crappy looking and dated.
[Windows Phone 7 General] paperclips:
1. No, it's not really a knockoff at all since it's doing what it's meant to do. They could have made widgets if they wanted to but they aren't necessary.

2-3. My whole point is that you still have to scroll to see information on android whether it be button presses, homescreen changing, or status scrolling. Never said WP could.

4. You fail to understand the market actually. Very few people go into customizing their phones. Most consumers want something that "just works" when they buy it. Android isn't at the point yet but it is available in more places than iOS is.
[Windows Phone 7 General] aztecghurl:
wp7

lol bs numbers? actually im pretty certain i read something similar the other day. Plus, ALL the people i know that have android haven't customized it beyond changing the wallpaper and moving some things around. I dont think people like you realize that ios, android and wp7 all offer the same core functionality but deliver it in different ways. They also have their own perks, unique interfaces and drawbacks. People choose them because its their preference. They PREFER the ui of their choosing because it works for them. People like YOU choose them because you think its better than the others, then go online and yell at people about why they're wrong for preferring something different from you. Personally i like wp7, i like the interface, and i cant think of any multitasking that i really need. copy and paste would be nice but its not something i use often. Its not enough to keep me from getting one when my upgrade comes!
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmelo76:
Please, don´t flame!

I arrived a little late, I know, but we have lives outside XDA, so ...

Friends will calmly ....

If we start with flame in the pre launch what will happen after the release!

I'm just giving a suggestion, let's keep the mood calmer!
[Windows Phone 7 General] eknutson:
Doesn't seem like BS to me, unless you think the numbers are too high. I do - I'm the only one I know of all my family, friends, and co-workers who actually likes tinkering with my phone. Flashing, re-building, testing each new OS feature and radio, completely re-skinning every .png on the device, ad. nauseum.

The numbers break down like you'd think. I'm the only one I know with a Windows-based phone. Pretty much everyone likes either the iPhone (and don't want to touch a thing, just install a couple of games), or Android. The Android users are a curious bunch: most of my techie friends and probably the majority of coworkers who got Android did so because it _could_ be re-built. Not one of them has rooted it. Nobody has done any downloading of OS components or wigets after getting 1 or 2. They simply don't want to tinker with a phone - and feel it should make calls, brows the net, and play music. Maybe take a few pictures, and for the rare few it should do navigation as well.

We are a niche, a sub-culture, and most assuredly a minority. Here's an interesting read about one guy dumping his droid: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/why-i-dumped-my-droid/2487?tag=nl.e539 and quite frankly people are saying the same thing at work now. Why did I get this thing? I want fun not work. I want everything to 'just work' like people said it would, not 'will finally work when you can find the right pieces and the right combination.'
[Windows Phone 7 General] satchef1:
The only thing I'm disagreeing with is all the claims that WP7 will fail to sell because its not customisable/it doesn't have file system access/some other geeky reason that doesn't matter to most people. If WP7 doesn't appeal to people here because they can't tinker with it then that's a different issue. It's got very little to do with the overall success or failure of the platform.
[Windows Phone 7 General] welki1979:
Couldn't agree more... also theres a lot of cr*p coming from people that have not done their research. WP7 is an OS for the masses....not the techy among us (me included) but Windows Embedded Handheld (or Compact) IS.

Enterprise will have access to the features of WP7 (apart from Xbox live obviously) through the Windows Embedded Handheld devices released to enterprise built on the same core as WP7

See this thread for more info: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=706387
[Windows Phone 7 General] rr5678:
From that thread:

That happened to me in the T-Mobile store. I was buying my Touch Pro 2 at the time and the sales rep tried to convince me to buy Android because "Windows freezes alot". I bought the TP2 anyway. They tried the same stunt when I went back to get my HD2. I sat there and downloaded an Android build. When they saw the HD2 running Android, their faces changed :p
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
1. It is a knockoff widget. No matter what name you give it. I'd go further and say MS has implemented it better.

2-3. My point was the actual information is already on the home screen. On WP7 you see a crappy photo animation, on my phone I see the actual information.

4. I dont think you understand. There is a app for that, don't you get it. People want apps. Android works, IOS works, WebOS works.

So cute, thanks for your opinions. I guess the Android market is there for no reason, I guess OEMs are spending millions on apps with widgets for no reason. I guess WP7 have "Live Tiles" for no reason. I guess developers are wasting their time too.

BS, who said anything about tinkering? All I said was download a app, that's it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Captainkrtek:
Clean it up in here guys, its a phone calm it down a bit.

*Puts on a flame retardant suit*
[Windows Phone 7 General] aztecghurl:
I never said the android market is there for no reason. nor that live tiles are useless and devs are wasting their time. As a matter of fact, its really hard to draw that conclusion from what i said since my point was "ios, android and wp7 all offer the same core functionality but deliver it in different ways. They also have their own perks, unique interfaces and drawbacks. People choose them because its their preference. They PREFER the ui of their choosing because it works for them. People like YOU choose them because you think its better than the others, then go online and yell at people about why they're wrong for preferring something different from you. " I think its pretty obvious that general consumers want apps. what you're failing to realize from "^ Yeah, BS numbers. I guess the AppStore doesn't sell a thing! I guess all the downloads in the Android Market are BS too! " and what you responded to me is that "The number of smartphone users that customise their phones beyond wallpaper changes and customisation of widgets/icons...is roughly 8%" and my point that none of the android users i know customize their phone SOMEHOW means that those very same consumers arent downloading apps and the app store exists for no reason. all that it means is they dont CUSTOMIZE their phone, it doesnt mean they dont move widgets around and download utilities, games and entertainment apps. It certainly doesnt mean app stores, widgets and live tiles are void.

secondly, what is the point in highlighting everywhere i wrote my opinion? thats what you're supposed to do. and i also noticed how you skipped the entire part where i wrote about how the reason we choose different os's is because its our preference. "So cute."
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmelo76:
Okay, okay, I believe that it is unnecessary new flames; ... thread closed.
[General Questions and Answers] cloneman1:
When you hold down a link in the Android Browser, eventually a menu appears (like a right click menu).

I would like to _increase_ the length of time to get to this menu. Since my touchscreen isn't very accurate, I like to hold links down until there's a nice orange box around them, so I'm sure the right one has been selected. Zooming in and clicking the wrong link is frustrating and time consuming.

Thanks.

While I'm here, I might as well ask about holding the homescreen to bring up recent apps, it'd be nice if that was _faster_ (opposite of what i'm asking for above)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] elDiabllo:
today i put WM6.5 +QueROM Versions B1 on my herm 100. everything was fine till i instaled SPB Mobile shell. after install the phone freeze. i pull out battery and now won't bot. the scree freeze at that first windows splash screen. i think i broke my phone :(. any1 can help me to bring my phone back to life? :D

idk if this the right place for my problem, and sorry for my bad english :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] szenteshunor:
Just hard reset it and than it will works well again.

you press the two buttons above the send and end. (OK and WINDOWS BUTTONS) and keep them pressed, while they are pressed you press the reset buttonon the Device
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] smuvman:
Havent seen this posted but i noticed that when you try to download from the market the file and you get DOWNLOAD WAS UNSUCCESSFULL your download is actually stored on your sdcard under sdcard/download. Now this happens ONLY if you try to download a file and it DOESNT install. in other words when the download bar fills up but you see it hasnt installed use a file browser go to download on ur sdcard and you'll see downloadfile, downloadfile1, etc. depending on how many times you tried to download that app or other apps. once you click on it and try to install via app manager it you will then see which file it is. as i said this worked for ME so i cant guarantee it will work for EVERYBODY. but it will save you the hassle of unmounting your card everytime you cant get it to install. FYI this will NOT work if you get the unsuccessfull install error. hope this helps someone.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2sh0rt:
I've been searching all over and I havnt found any related threads regarding hiding pictures on the vibrant. I have some pictures that i want to hide but i cannot find any info on how to accomplish this. I've tried a few apps that supposedly did it but i really didnt like how they worked. If anyone has any suggestions on how to accomplish this task please share!

thanks!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Texag2010:
You can always just create a zip file using Astro. From there move the pictures within the zip file.

Don't know why you'd want to but that should work as the regular file system/programs don't recognize zip files.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2sh0rt:
I dont want my kids to accidently stumble across certain pictures if they pick up my phone. I was hoping there was a way to rename a directory or a place that the gallery doesnt look in.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Texag2010:
If you rename the folder with your porn pics by putting a dot in front of the folder name then that folder will be hidden. It would hide it from the gallery viewer and what not as well as from the regular file system. To access it again you'd have to use a file manager program like Astro or Root Explorer where you can navigate to those hidden folders. From there you can just enter them and click on the pictures you want to view then but you won't have the porn picture flip or scroll capability like in gallery view...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheExpertNoob:
you can also add a ".nomedia" (without quotes) file to hide them too.. not sure if it works in Gallery but I know it works for music. I use it to keep my ringtones and notifications out of the music player.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kizer:
Works in Gallery because I forgot I created one and I got really frustrated trying to figure out why my phone would scan files, but would never show up in gallery. LOL
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amjetmech:
I downloaded Pandora and it does a great job of hiding pictures and videos, plus it is password protected. It has a picture of a box not to be confused with Pandora music app.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2sh0rt:
Thanks guys I added a period before the folder name using Root Explorer and after a reboot it is now hidden from the gallery... exactly what i was looking for
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KerryG:
Woohoo! The porn is safe!