yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
Some people believe this version makes the phone respond faster because rather than using a FAT32 implementation of Apps2SD, which (from my understanding) has to go through some form of encryption/decryption (could be wrong on that account), this version uses native Linux partitions to store the data. This also uses symbolic links (native to Linux) to redirect the files to the SD card.

Apparently, from what I have read as well, some programs leave traces of themselves in Internal storage even if they are moved to the SD card by Froyo (although I can't find any evidence of that on my phone), this would insure that the entire program is on the SD card.

On top of that, this version can move dalvik-cache to the SD card, which Froyo's implementation cannot do. That helps with freeing up more internal space.

The newer 2.7.5.3 also has a method of moving the program data (/data/data) to the SD card as well, freeing up even more memory. Froyo also can't do this.

While it is true that most roms offer similar functionality, most Apps2SD implementations are also designed for the rom they run. If you have a rom that does the same functionality as Darktremor, then you should stick with what you have. This is for people who need more functionality with their Apps2SD or people who use roms like CyanogenMod which doesn't have an Apps2SD implementation.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
So this is useful for CM roms - that is true. It's probably the main reason to use this since I too don't see anything that would really be better than the apps2sd built into the roms I've been using other than this taking more space.

Possibly this thread could be renamed with "for CM stock roms" or something so it's really clear to users of those roms that they could get these benefits easily.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
My thought on this issue is this: I'm not going to attempt to convince you to try it. If you want to run it, great. If you don't, that's fine as well (some people feel Froyo Apps2SD is enough, and I respect that).

I always believe that, if you have something that works fine for you, don't change. If your Apps2SD implementation works for you, then stick with that.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] takuhii:
Do I need to turn on the Application moving thing in Cyanogen mod, or just DT just run in the background automatically?

I'm using CM7 by the way.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
interesting - you missed my point entirely LoL, but that is very fair what you said.

I was clarifying that this tool is really targetted at, and most useful for, CM users.

and from what I've been told this particular version beta3a is working perfectly with CM7 gingerbread.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
if you use this all you do is flash it and you're done. no more thinking about application control other than to move certain apps to "phone" memory if they FC after being installed and you find them defaulting to be in "sd card" memory (which often causes issues in some gingerbread installs).
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] scrollo:
Using this on CM7 with an ext4 partition, works very well. One thing I had to do manually is run 'a2sd cachesd', moving the dalvik to the sd card. Assuming the built in a2sd (ext) in other roms do this automatically, as my free internal space was much lower (with the same apps) until I did this step. Performance seemed the same either way, just the free storage number changed :o)

Quick question about the datasd command. Aside from saving space, would this (or could this) allow one to preserve apps in between wipes (i.e. different rom installs)? As a wipeaholic I'd love to just have my apps/data sitting on ext partition and have them show up automatically whenever I flash a new rom.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] takuhii:
I am running this on CM7 too, I moved Dalvik-cache to the CACHE folder/partition. This ROM just blazes along now...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
Application moving thing is Froyo Apps2SD. Darktremor does it automatically.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
I actually did get the point, but couldn't come up with an appropriate response. I don't know much about the HTC Hero GSM. My first Android phone was the HTC Hero CDMA, which I found out is a different beast altogether.

For the Hero CDMA, we have both CyanogenMod (AOSP) and SenseUI (HTC) roms. Darktremor is relevant to both types of rom types, so both AOSP and HTC rom users can use it. That's where I had troubles actually coming up with the appropriate response...I don't know if you guys have SenseUI and I'm not familiar with other roms you have.

Beta 04 should work better for CM users..
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
Theoretically, it should preserve the data (though I don't think anyone, including myself, has done that yet). This should be useful if you were going between nightly builds (seeing that you are on CM7, I presume that's why you asked the question), but switching between two different roms may result in unpredictable operation.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] adisa:
I think its time we refered to your A2SD as A2EXT, this is more suitable now since Google has as implemented A2SD(froyo fat32). Darktremor A2EXT is better name for this work.

Keep up the good work.

Sent from my HTC Hero
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
Or Apps2EXT... :-)

Actually, on 2.7.6 (or 2.7.5.3 final), I was thinking on renaming everything to Darktremor Toolbox (or something along those lines...anything but Darktremor Apps2SD), since this thing does more than just move applications to the EXT partition. It also moves Dalvik-Cache (Dalvik2SD and Dalvik2Cache) and Program files (Data2SD), plus adjust Low Memory killer settings, sets the Dalvik heap size, converts partitions, implements the Evo SD Card speed fix (which not sure if this works for anyone else), fixes APK permissions, and possibly one or two more things I can't recall off the top of my head.

It seems the program has outgrown its name, plus the confusion between this program and Froyo Apps2SD is getting worse.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] parleyp:
It does preserve them. I use this to test different roms on the leo...makes it so I do NOT have to reinstall all the apps.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alioooop:
do I need to flash this every time I flash a new cm7 nightly? :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
Yes...CM 7 Nightly builds (as with other roms) will wipe out the /system partition before installing the rom, so Darktremor's files are wiped clean as well. You will need to reflash Darktremor in order to restore the boot scripts.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alioooop:
okey that suck but thx :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
Any rom does that when it is installing. This insures that there is no residual files from a previous rom that will mess something up. Those issues are very difficult to track down.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alioooop:
okey, didnt mean that this script suck :) Im waiting for it to boot right now but probably you have done a great work :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
I knew you didn't say the script sucked. You were talking about how it sucks to have to flash both the nightly builds and Darktremor each time. That I would agree with you. It's worse with CM Nightly builds as you also have to flash the Google apps as well if you want it to sync with Google.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alioooop:
true but the google apps you only need to install the first time because you wont need to do a wipe to update to a newer nightly :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] m4rk84:
Said like a pro. *thumbs up*
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] alioooop:
weird... Everything worked perfectly and then I rebooted my phone... now the A2SD doesnt work...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] ChosSimbaOne:
hi.

I've installed CM7 nightly with gapps, when i boot i works with no apps2sd.

When i flash the apps2sd zip it's just stuck at the HERO screen.

I'm using a ext4 with no swap.

I've tried to flash it after cm7 first boot - does not work

i've tired to flash without booting cm7 first - does not work

i've tried to wipe everything after i've flashed cm7, gapps and apps2sd - does not work

can you help me?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
Hmmm...they must be on the /data partition.

I'm thinking about that kind of move for Darktremor. It may make it more compatible with other types of roms, including those that are Android tablets (I'm playing with an Archos 5IT for porting Darktremor on it).
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
Do you see it reboot? It could be rebuilding dalvik-cache.

Data logs are in /data. They are dta2sd.log, dta2sd.lg1 and dta2sd.lg2...recovery those using recovery and send those to me at rtkirton@gmail.com. I'll see what's going on.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] tkirton:
Hmmm...pull the battery and see if that works.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] takuhii:
Sorry dude. Beta 4 borks my CM7 Beta 3 install everytime.

After I install DarkTremor Beta4 and use cachepart, my phone reboots;

I get past the Cyanogen boot anim, just as it switches to the phone interface the phone reboots again[/*]

This shows the Hero logo (the phone does a little vibrate as it does this (which it always does)) it then sits at the Hero logo for a while and then reboots again[/*]

This time there is no vibrate. It then sits on the Hero logo indefinitely[/*]

I have left this for up to 10 minutes, and the Hero logo never goes away and the phone never manages to boot into Android.

Problem is you've examined my logs and nothing is wrong, so I'm at a loss here...

I am using a 16GB Class 4 Sandisk Micro SD HC Card. It has a 512mb EXT3 partition with the rest formatted at FAT32.

After multiple reboots (involving pulling the battery, everytime) The only way I can boot normally is to use A2SD remove (after using SU, which then does it's thing, reboots the phone and boots into CM7 fine. I even tried multiple reboots to make sure it wasn't me and it boots into android every time.

Are there any other logs I could send you? :rolleyes:
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
curious. if beta 4 (which claims to have big code changes) fails sometimes, does beta 3 work for you?

I witnessed beta 3 in use with an early cm7 build a while back and it worked perfectly.

not suggesting work stops on beta4 and everyone dumps beta 4, but if you NEED a2sd with ext on cm you could try beta3 and maybe get a working rom out of it, for end users at least rather than those interested in bleeding edge experiments like beta4.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] takuhii:
Hi Don,

I thought the same and rolled back to BETA03, but since I installed Nightly 7 no version of DT works for me at all now, the phone will quite happily sit at the HERO logo for up to and over 20 minutes
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
Same thing for me : My fix when coming from another rom(not CM7): I use ext2 just for info(It doesn't need ext3)... Wipe all (including ext), flash nightly, flash gapps, flash DT, reboot .. wait 20seconds or less (it's in bootloop so waiting even more is useless) , pull out battery, put in back in, boot in recovery, wipe cache and dalvik cache, reflash DT, reboot ,leave it 1 min, the phone will boot and u can reboot the phone as many times as u want with no bootloop at splash screen (hero logo).Atleast in my case

!You need to wipe cache and dalvik cache and reflash DT after upgrading from one nightly to another as DT will be gone!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] invinciblervd:
Have been doing this since morning. Did it for 5-6 times. No luck. Gets stuck on Hero screen.

Was running CM nightly build 8 and then wiped cache, dalvik-cache and ext partition. Flashed DT apps2sd beta 4. Did this all the time but gets stuck on Hero.. :(
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] takuhii:
I get the same thing, it might boot once, but as soon as it hits the Android OS it reboots back to the beginning, sits on the Hero logo, then reboots again (for me anyway) and just sits on Hero for about 20+ minutes...

EXCELLENT ringtone mate!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] arif-ali:
adding to ROM

Hey tkirton,

This is a great app, it gives normal users the flexibility to choose what is on the SD, great on you; and this is the reason., I would like to add it to the ROM I am maintaining

My questions, I am modifying a ROM to add this into it, and I want by default to add app, app-private and dalvik-cache to SD, I know the first 2 are in by default, bu the latter one isn't.

I have touched a file in /data/.dalvikcache, so that this is automated. All of this works, but is there any way for the phone not to reboot. At the moment, when I reflash the rom (after a full wipe), it boots up, and reboots twice before doing everything. Is it possible to prevent this

before it reboots first time, I get

I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Creating symbolic link to /sd-ext/dalvik-cache...
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Setting File System Ready property to 1.
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Setting Reset Cache Flag...
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Unmounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p2...
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Rebooting phone...

after second time

I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): /dev/block/mmcblk0p2: clean, 14/62592 files, 8345/250050 blocks
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Attempting to mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p2.
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Mount returned code: 0
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 successful.
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Mount successful: /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Checking for directory structure.
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Structure Check complete.
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [-] Checkpoint 16: Reset Dalvik if Flag File is present.
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Resetting Cache...
I//system/xbin/busybox( 62): [ ] Restarting Phone...

Any ideas?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Talbes:
Hi,

Sorry for the bad news here also, but we are using Beta04 with MIUI_Au (www.miui-au.com) and initially we get 3 boot loops and then it boots, but hangs every time on reboot. Have tried Beta04 on several versions of our ROM and can not get a reliable boot. We were using Beta02 but cachesd would not install on boot. Going to try beta03 now.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] arif-ali:
ok, I figured it out

to get dalvik-cache to be automated "touch /data/.dalvikcache", to get data2sd as well, then "touch /data/.datasd".

Then symbolic links for a2sd + dalvik-cache

* /data/app -> /sd-ext/app

* /data/app-private -> /sd-ext/app-private

* /data/dalvik-cache -> /sd-ext/dalvik-cache

and if you want data2sd as well

* /data/data -> /sd-ext/data
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] EvoNotEvil:
adding to rom

Trying to add a2sd support to my favorite cm7 rom which hasnt been set up as per the instructions here: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=158823170833688 . Everything is fine using cygwin until the last step in recreating the boot.img I get the error unable to execute binary file. I can say this doesnt seem to be a permissions issue. Am I able to do this with cygwin? Do I need some other tool for my cygwin install? Any Ideas? Is there a reccomended easy way to run linux/unix along with win 7?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] arif-ali:
You could try a VM in windows using VirtualBox or VMware
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] scrollo:
Betas 4 and 5 bootlooped for me too on nightly 15. Beta 3 still working nicely. I flashed rom + gapps then rebooted, once in I waited for my market apps to install (strange it does this as my setting says not to). Reboot into recovery, wipe cache and dalvik then flash dt beta 3. Once in do su followed by a2sd cachesd in a terminal then reboot a final time. All seems good maybe I'm just lucky :o)
[EVO 4G General] csmith06:
I have messed up my phone, and not sure exactly how.

When I first got my evo in august, it came with Froyo. I tried to root it using the procedures for 2.1, not knowing that it was for 2.2. My mistake. I went through the procedures, and it never worked. Then when the rooting for 2.2 came out, i tried to do that, but it didn't work. I followed the instructions from here and followed allong with the video on youtube. When I was pushing those files using the command prompts, they all worked, but that biggest file never came through.

On Tuesday, i was able to use unrevoked 3.2 to root my evo. I know it was successful because unrevoked said done when i finished. I was able to do the wifi tether on it, plus the screen shots, and superuser was asking for permisions, so I know it was fully rooted.

Today I tried to do a rom, and I was unsuccessful from the start. The phone wont start the recovery mode.

This is what it says:

SD Checking....

Loading... [PC36DIAG.zip]

No image!

Loading... [PC36DIAG.nbh]

No image or wrong image!

Loading... [PC36IMG.zip]

And then it will go to the next screen, which says:

Parsing...[SD ZIP]

[1] BOOT

[2] BOOTLOADER

[3] MICROP

[4]RADIO_VZ

[5] RECOVERY

[6] SPLASH1

[7] SYSTEM

[8] TP

[9] TP

[10] USERDATA

[11] WIMAX

Do you want to start update?

So I've pressed yes once before. However, my phone will not move past these screens. I can select all the options, like clear storage, power down, etc. I can't go into recovery. When I do, it shows a black screen with a phone and a red triangle with an exclamation point.

I won't say that it is bricked, but I know something isn't right. Have I messed up my phone beyond repair?
[EVO 4G General] bender1077:
What rom are you trying to load?
[EVO 4G General] BrianBusby2038:
Your phone is fine.You just need to install a custom recovery.You can use Amon-Ra or Clockwork you can find instructions for both in the Development Forum.
[EVO 4G General] bigmoogle:
Do you have a pc36img.zip file on you sd card? From your log it looks like the third zip file was found and opened. If so, delete the file from your sd card and try again.
[EVO 4G General] mizzos4:
Install rom manager and then flash a working clockwork recovery. I use rom manager to also flash the alternative amon ra, which is my preferred recovery. Easiest way to flash/update between the two recovery options, IMHO.
[EVO 4G General] csmith06:
I was wanting to do the Fresh 3.3. This will be the first ROM I've loaded.

I can't delete the pc36img.zip file off the phone because I can't connect it to the computer as a usb drive. When I turn it on, it just stays at that booting screen with the text. I can't access apps, or phone, or anything...
[Android Apps and Games] gemro311:
Hello

I am trying to find out how to get The Music App updated to include the settings menu. I am running a rooted 2.2 on my Eris and my friend has 2.2 OTA on his Moto. His wife has an Eris 2.1 OTA . When they open the Music App they do not have settings as an option . While my Music App does. Is there anyway for these folks to get this option . Thanks

:confused::confused:
[Android Apps and Games] Rock_Harder:
This should be music mod i think, just DL it from the market
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iunlock:
I'm rooted via RyanZA's OCLF 2.0 lag fix.

Should we unroot or is it okay to stay rooted when applying the 2.2 update, when and if ever it comes out? ie...will being rooted have an effect on the ability to upgrade to the update that "may" arrive, if ever....

Any wild guesses of what we could expect with the Quadrant scores from 2.2? Right now I'm hitting 2400~
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ekeefe41:
This really belongs in the Q&A section

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=747

But.. odds are once 2.2 is officially available, a rooted flash-able version will probably appear here with in 24 hours.

Even better odds are we will be running a fully functional 2.2 long before any official version get released.

It is all up to you.

I will remain rooted and take what XDA gives me... and like it :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Janudallah:
LOL @ 98classic, that's not nice!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inverseflux:
I'd say flash the Froyo ROM and test it yourself rather then raging on some dude in a forum. The fact still remains... no one knows what the performance will be like as it hasn't been released to us yet(other then the EU release).

To address your last statement; Clearly, my wild guess at a quadrant score is going to be 9000+...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
Quadrant scores don't mean anything but for bragging rights. And I wouldn't flash the "Froyo ROM" the "performance" increases that are promised in 2.2 are not in the leak. JIT is missing and 3.5mm" headphone jack and other problems are still in there.

+ Wrong section.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gothdroid:
Honestly I am running the leaked froyo ROM, and it seems to be fast even on stock clock and no JIT
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puretone:
BTW the month of September is almost out, what gives?

Sent from my Galaxy S
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] microfire21:
People should really take a look at the sticky for forum rules...this is an all ages community...and the flaming on the fly needs to stop...and think about it, we where all nubs at one point...people post in the wrong areas...this happens...they will learn after a while or you could kindly answer there question or link them to the right thread...then if the issue isn't covered answer to the best of your knowledge...we are an open source community...we are an all ages community...let's grow up and act like it....I'm sick of the flame wars...its no wonder we don't have all the vibrant devs here at xda...a lot of devs I know are on other sites and won't post work here because everything starts a flame war....

And to answer the question for the op...sorry for the long bit above...but you should stay rooted, all the new roms for 2.2 and so on will either be flashable though clockwork or odin...there its no need to unroot for carrier updates...are devs do an awesome job at making are sammys better than stock...and as time goes on and some possible sever space we could see an update app for roms like the cm updater for most other phones with cm.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] egzthunder1:
Thread moved to Q&A.

Thread closed.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General] boki019:
Firstly, I am sorry if i missed a thread about this...

I searched, and readed many many pages on many different treads on XDA (and many, many other), but still no luck...

I have HTC Touch pro 2 ( Europe ) no Sprint, Verizon or something like that...

Windows mobile 6.5 professional

CE OS 5.2.21854

CPU: MSM7200A-528MHz

Now, the question:

Does anyone managed to do the PS3 jailbreak (or how ever is it called) and play downloaded games, with HTC TP2?

I tried dukio.com/tutorials/htc-diamond-raphael-psgroove-port.html

and tried psfreedom.com/wiki/HTC_Raphael

and many many more....

I managed to install Android, and it is working fine...

But when i go ( by the instructions) :

How to install

Extract the archive on your sdcard (replace zImage/modules)

Be sure that Actice Sync mode is enabled in Windows Mobile

Run Haret with USB connected to your PC

To enable

Disconnect your USB from PC

From android go to DevTools->Terminal Emulator

Type "su", then "cd /sdcard", then "insmod psfreedom.ko"

I do the typing, all went OK, but when i pluf HTC in PS3 after that, it boots and i got "unknown device in usb" (or something like that), and of course it has no JB in it...

I tried different speeds on pressing power and eject button, tried many psfreedom.ko files....

still nothing...

Any 1 managed to deal with this with HTC TP2

My PS3 is a fat one 40 gigs, v3.41

Thank You, and sorry if I`m asking already asked and/or in wrong forum.

PS, I tried 10 versions for other HTC`s on my TP2 but nothing

Here is a list of supported phones

psfreedom.com/wiki/index.php?title=Device_compatibility_list

And HTC Rhodium (HTC Touch Pro 2 / HTC Diamond 2) (Android)	Complete	Works with Raphael release

I tried that first, of course but no luck....

anyone?

TY