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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Homer-S:
I would find it easier if it would look like a kind of that:

force on/off: (is overruling toggle)

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phone on/off

|-> withotu PIN on/off

Wifi on/off

no data on/off

BT on/off

Flight mode on/off

toggle existing status:

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phone switch on/off

etc....

roaming:

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no data on/off

phone off on/off

|-> withotu PIN on/off

ask for toggle

just a fast thought?!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chalex2005:
Switching (both theme- and and non-theme-related settings, such as bluetooth and ringing mode) works if both SaveMyDay and GoodNite have layouts associated with them. Otherwise - nothing happens.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
you mean that I do a little cleanup and sort it for initial aka existing status and for permanent? I think also this is good, but could this be confusing for other users, if the permanents are above the initial? perhaps we get more opinions about that.

to be honest: I haven't sorted it so far very much in data settings, because there I have much more ideas, what can be added. Also in combination with event handling.I have atm around 30 events without an always running process, which could be triggered and in beta I want to collect useful combinations.then - perhaps sort them also in different sub-panels, so that you have one level higher in CHTS-menu already "initial" and "permanent" as option.

if I would sort it now and add new things, then the sort couldn't suit later again.

perhaps I make this parts earlier and then it is easier to understand but also easier to add...what do you think? (not only Homer, all suggestions are welcome)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pedmond:
Hi there, and thanks for your impressive work.

A small bug report: scheduling of the wallpaper change does not work as expected. I put it in the Day profile at every 12 h, I changed it at 17:20 and the next scheduled change is then displayed as 13:20 (in the Switch Wallpaper icon).

Speaking of which, couldn't the wallpaper for the Start Screen be changed together with Sense? I used WaPac to do that until now, but it won't work with CHT 2 (nor does it need to because of the Scheduler).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
ok cool, then I know, what's to do.

Is it ok, that you meanwhile attach a Layout for switch or use automatically mode (because there it works without Layout) ? Seems that testers mostly works with auto mode or manual with Layout switch, that this use-case wasn't checked enough. I collect a little bit today, then fixed version will come the next days, ok?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
mmh - you have 24h time format... internal chts is counting with windows time, so it's indifferent. but sensesdk can have a problem with 24 time, if it is used as timeout. I will check it.

for today or s2u2 or so - look over to wapac thread, what I wrote, it would be not the big deal.chts and wapac provides different options also for cht wallpapers, this would be also, if wapac would be updated to cht 2.0 pathes (and that's not only the pathes, in cht 2 there are internal things, which must be considered). so the different possibilities are personal's taste and the best option is to combine it by an interface, so that you as users have the maximum in benefit. that I wrote 2 hours ago to rapid81, so let's see. I consider WaPac as a very good app with a very good support of Rapid, so the special not-CHT-things should be stay there, if possible and if you want it as user, you could add this to be scheduled by CHTS. I think that would be the best, because otherwise much more users would come with the next app, where a wallpaper can be scheduled and I can't be alone doing the whole stuff of xda-devs :) CHTS is doing a lot in much parts of winmo,sense and cht, so that wouldn't be able to handle, if I don't restrict it to common things. ok 4 U, mate? let's see, if it's ok for Rapid, but I think, it's good for all.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mitsi:
Hi Micha,

This looks like a very interesting addition to CHT.

I currently use G-Profile to switch profiles. This uses a number of methods to select which profile should be active at any time. The ones I use are:

1. Whether power is connected or not

2. Whether activesync is connected or not

3. When headset is connected or not

I have read your instructions but cannot find any reference to the above. Do these switches exist in your app? I would very much like to ditch G-Profile.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
only partial for data settings so far. but it's on roadmap for this and more events :)

with aitomatically mode and timeout, you already get a nice scheduling. btw. g-profile and Chts can co-exists, if you trigger different parts. I don't think that g-profile switches the things of Sense, Cht and the Layout.

But plz only 2 remark: there's no ETA for event changing so far.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] huismeester:
Sir maybe in future dutch translation?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pedmond:
I totally agree with you about WaPac. The only reason I asked for that is because I kinda like the unified experience of the same wallpaper in all the screens: the Start screen (which lists all the programs), the Lock screen (I'm using the default Windows because the CHT one is a bit slow and gives a flicker - no big deal though), and the Sense screen.

Now, since CHTS does almost everything WaPac does (in strict correlation to Sense) I thought perhaps the Start (hexagon) wallpaper could be brought in tune with rest. I don't inisist though (just did ;)), it's great as it is.

Now about the 24h time, the only solution for now is to go to 12h format?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
no, the only solution is, that I check and fix it :)

so far it should work with 11.59 instead of 12.00 :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pedmond:
Aha, I had a hunch I should put it less than 12. Thanks, I'll do that.

[EDIT] ... or not. I put it at 11:59, says next one at 14:23 the time now being 19:04. Well, I like am element of surprise, so no biggie...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] buffalosolja42:
Can you post your example configurataions on the home page

?? I really like a couple of them can you post the .xml and other things associated with it please:) thanks I have spend probably 4+hrs working with this and can't stop lol trying to get more organized as well using this, thanks to all on the CHT team.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
hey mate,

for an example, just copy the chtwidget_basic.xml and chtreg_basic.xml out of your \windows-directory.

Then just leave the header and only change the sectuon names and the attributes, than you have it, like you want :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] buffalosolja42:
So the night theme in the first post is already on my phone? If so thanks and wow.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
yes, Sir, when I add Language support, then for all Languages :)

that's too much surprise for me :) but I will iron it out.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
No :) These are some Themes for CHT v2, e.g. from conantroutman, mobmentality and this Theme, which you mean, is from saugbaer.

You can define your own night theme - just install the Home-Tab-Theme for CHT v2, which you like and save this Layout and attach it to the profile you want. Otherwise we all would eat together always the same :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Pan11:
Problem with profile switching

Hi and thanks for your support,

You are right, this is ecactly my problem. If I change the profile form Day to Car and back to Day - bluetooth does not switch off.

Then I can "klick" again on "Day"-profile and bluetooth switched off.

I´m using the HD2 with the following Rom:

[ROM][EN/DE] 28.11.10 HD2O© 2.0.0_6 CHT2.0.0 6.5.3 23149 3.14.531.1 CFC [online]
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] luckyuser:
Thanks for the Update, cool new features!:eek:Playtime again:D

1.Maybe noob question, but for CHTS Additional links ( e.g. New Home Wall, New today Wall and New forelayer) do i have to install some apps for this to get it work?

For the moment nothing happened/changed when i use them:confused:

2.Have also prob with the basic Links (Switch-Mode, Refresh Profile Switch Wallpapers) icons won't show up?

3.Can i change some settings in a Profil or in a Layout seperatly and save the changes, or must i create always a new Profile or Layout with another name?

See screenshot!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
Ringing

Hello,

I would like to set a ring tone, but the only choice is <do not change> ?

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BHS Interceptor:
Hola Luckyuser, there are no noob questions around here :D

1. No, no additional apps are needed, but you need to have some ForeLayers and image files on your device or SD Card and also applied in CHTS for them to show effect. So please check and also set the corresponding folder or files for Home, Today, etc.. in the specific Profile settings: "wallpapers" (initial, scheduled or weather) for that profile ;)

2. I encountered that problem also whilst testing, so please try to either re-install CHTS Links cab, or even both cabs and see if they display correctly this time. BTW, do you see the icon "underneath" the white square when you touch it - does it become kinda "semi transparent?

3. Not sure I understood your question, so please correct me if I misunderstood you... Depending on the settings you refer to, you might have to set different profiles/layouts for it, unless you can manually change them in that profile using the provided switches/toggles - or adding-removing layout items manually every time :o, so saving different profiles makes that automatically...

Hola Chef, have you checked and set the corresponding folder for the ringtones in: CHTS Main settings (first screen), Appearence - "Folder Settings" (fourth down in first screen) ? There you can set 3 different folders for audio files, which are needed later for setting (choosing this audio files) in the profile´s menu ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dragmark:
Sorry, maybe a dumb question, but can I install *CHT QUICKLINKS 0215 AddOn* without the CHTS? I mean, can I use it without installing CHTS, only CHT?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BHS Interceptor:
Hola, no, not a dumb question at all, since they are very nice and usefull links, but they draw from (call) CHTS, so without CHTS you won´t be able to use them ;) They are specific switches that "trigger" things for CHTS to do :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dragmark:
Thanks mate! Now I'm a little smarter :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dragonfry:
THanks santod

I found that settings right after I left my message here, mess with it a bit but still no ringtones. Soft set phone & off to sleep. Check it again after I got up & they were there.

Thanks again for quick reply
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
Well, in fact, it is since I set the directory ( on SD ) I use normally, that I have this message. Before, with default directory, I had a (system ?) list of sounds.

Another issue ;

ForeLayer;

As you see (?), it´s not usable, so I managed to uncheck Forlayer in profile, but anyway, it stays there :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
To apply new Ringtone Folders, you need to restart CHTScheduler.otherwise it wouldn't update the sound files in combobox list.

I made it in this way, because Ringtones have anyway their prefered folders. So I could left out a dynamic update of the comboboxes to search for new entries and there wouldn't be confusion with already applied ringtones (and so use less storage)

Perhaps I find a nice way for dynamic update in a later version. or a hint message.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Only in addition to BHS: A quicklink/toggle is ony visualization, but no functionality. The functionality is in the chts-Apps. But it's enough to install chts and call it once for initalization and then you can use the quicklinks or e.g. using chts only for Layout saving. you don't need profiling to use the quicklinks/toggle - but they show in Profile modes also the current states of this profile, too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Your current CHTSSettings.xml is needed, to know, what you have set. please attach it (I can only use .zip to read, so please as .zip)

You also know, that you you can save your chtssettings now with 215? then you can restore the former settings with ease.

Also there is a Quicklink to hide the forelayer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Hulmeman:
We're not worthy.

I'm in AWE! :eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
1. in 215 the quicklinks only can work for scheduled wallpapers in current profile. otherwise chts can't know a directory, where it has to look for a new wallpaper.

2. you need to start CHTScheduler once for initialization. have you applied some quicklinks before? also it's a good idea to reinstall the additional chts_links-cab again with Sense off. Sometimes winmo+Sense deny to write to windows.

3. profile or layout? :) A Layout is simply overwriteable by using the same name.

A profile can change partially things, as long as you leave other parts to "don't change it"

Exception: permanently running things, e.g. "permanent data settings" and "wallpaper scheduling" - they must be set explicitely to "on" to use them after profile switch. otherwise it would be only confusing, why some would be changed by CHTS, but there's nothing set in this profile to do this. But a Layout would remain over much profiles, as long,as you don't assign a new one for each profile.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
Here it is Master !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
AWE? Oh I hope CHTS will find this, if we add location awareness to profile switch :)

thanx for the really nice feedback

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
thanx Chef :)

you have only defined in sparetime a forelayer, in all other profiles it's on "don't change it" - so CHTS assumes, you want to keep it.

in this case, I would suggest, that you set "ignore wallpaper in Layout" to OFF. then CHTS will delete forelayer if you haven't saved it to Layout.

or simply switch forelayer visibility with quicklink.

I will think about an alternative way in next version. I only must collect experiences, how users uses forelayers. for the most it's pretty new. but it's a cool effect of CHT :)

ok so?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] luckyuser:
After reinstall chts_links-cab addon (first Post) again with Sense off al the new toggle-switches (e.g. backlight %, Network, WIFI Stanby, Forelayer etc.)are no more available, can't choose/find them in "Edit Mode":(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
start CHTScheduler again, that they will be initialized.

winmo has sometimes a strange behaviour - it marks files to delete after softreset.

so please try again the steps I described in post 1 for installation, then it should work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] luckyuser:
Reinstalled chts_links-cab addon again, run after reboot CHTS, quicklinks all there again, OK.

But, I see "white squares" instead of some of my quicklinks or freelinks!

Followed these instructions:;)

I see "white squares" instead of some of my quicklinks or freelinks?

This is because of the "jumping quicklinks"-issue - and I estimate, you have flashed the ROM and applied a LAyout of the former ROM. There it can be, that some Linsk are not the same. Contact Links are anyway not saveable (they use an unique ID), but for the Links: Simply delete them and apply them again and overwrite the Layout.

any suggestions:

*-Would love an option to overwrite/save current Layout whitout having to rename it with a pop-up message that tells me when I use the same layout-name "Overwrite current Layout YES or NO:)

*-Is it possible to put all those great seperat backlight toggles into a widgetbar like taskbar or notificationbar, whit option: bar or only icons?:cool:

Thanks for support!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
Cool, the first Forelayer I had was ... not good.:p

Now another one is fine. :D

By the way, I was about to ask question about all the options "Ignore ..."

What does it supposed to ignore ?

p.s.

Do you plan to release an update of the manual ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] babakm2:
Suggestion

1. Trigger for automatic change of profiles:

--AC power

--On Hands-free

--On Headphone

--After Shaking!

and ...

For example:

When detect a paired Hands-free, the profile automatically change to "work"

When shake the phone, the profile automatically change to "silent":rolleyes:

2. Block unknown number with busy!:eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BHS Interceptor:
That happens since sometimes re-installing means "deleting" ;) Did you get the corresponding pop-up message?

Hola again -

1. White squares: Either somthing didn´t stick right, or maybe also issues with SD Card... I had them also whilst testing, so I just "uninstalled" CHTS (and the chts links), renamed the _CHTScheduler Folder on SD Card to lets say "A_CHTScheduler" and afterwards reinstalled CHTS 2.15 as well as the CHTS Links... But with Sense deactivared. Once all is installed, please check if "new" _CHTSceduler Folder has been created on SD Card, if yes and no more white squares visible, then open CHTS and save new Baseline. Later we´ll take it from here. If white square still appear, then it´s... Quote Mike2nl

"White square problems on phones. (by Mike2nl)

What we nee to now to help you:

1. what we need is the ROM version (stock, 3rd party an own one and the number of version). Because of CFC or NOT CFC for graphics in manila.

2. what we need is the manila version. Because there are some guys outside who are using more tab's then normal

3. the most important thing is the CHT versions (main, chts, chte, widgets and the version number)

4. where do you have installed the widget (main or sd card)

5. do you have deleted a folder named CHTAddons on drive C?

6. Some widgets creating a folder on drive C under Program Files for her graphics as sample. Have you tranfered or do you have deleted this folder?

7. describe so far as possbile your installation (error or popups). I dont mean the soft reset popup. I hope everyone from you have done a soft reset after every widget installation. Don't install 2 or more at the same time. That can give problems. I have tested this too.

8. which widgets do you have installed. And please tell us in which order you have installed which widget.

Because there are some widgets outside who are not 100% ok. So they can deliver problems directly after the installation or when you install another one.

I know because i test all widgets, really all because the CHTA stuff."

And here for I recommend to first try to "reinstall" CHT rather than using the uninstall routines - so install CHT over again, twice (one for deleting and the other for reinstall) and see if the "white squares" are gone... Again, we´ll take it from here before answering the reamining two questions/suggestions, OK? :)

Halo Chef, I did like and use that ForeLayer :p, but you´re right, if some one is not used to using ForeLayers, it´s a bit anoying ;)

1) "Ignore....", just what it states, to ignore the settings feferred to

2) Manual Update - good question and indeed it might be needed and usefull, but at the moment MD and the team is quite busy with "things" related to actual release and further improvements, so please be patient :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] santod040:
Not sure yet of the cause of the white squares.

I have only now seen them after a hard reset and fresh install of CHTS 2.15

However, removing the assigned white ones and re-adding them, corrects the issue for me.

As for an option to overwrite or save current layout, that is planned.(as a quicklink)

Just be patient for it, as CHTS gets updated fairly regularly compared to much software.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BHS Interceptor:
Hola thanks for your suggestions, and this time I´m answering only as a user and not a dev team member ;)

1... Why would you want separate profiles for that? I would not, since for shaking I have other apps that execute whith that command, and if I want to switch a profile, I would not want this to happen just because I might have my device shaking due to other reasons.... even if locked ;)

On Handsfree, what would you set differently for that profile that you can´t switch already manually? Also the one on Headphone?

As for the examples, how should CHTS know that paired device is only for work? Because of time? If you have Bluetooth ON for work, and already paired device, why switch to another profile..., etc. - If I want silence profile, I just touch the corresponding switch profile to silence quicklink ;)

For AC, be patient, cause there are many options around this one, and there are some allready built in CHTS 2.15 ;):D

On 2, and also switch profile to SpareTime if number is from a Friend, and switch to other Profile if call is from family, and maybe even "detect" the content of the conversation, so if it´s a friend calling at night or on a weekend and asking me about work, then also switch to work profile?

CHTS can do already a lot of things, and in the future will be able to do some more, but no program will ever be able to suit all desires of all users, but your input is highly appreciated and some things might come in the near or far future :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] luckyuser:
@BHS Interceptor & santod 040

For the moment there are no more issue's with toggle switches.

Apreciate friendly help!

I will be patient:D;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] santod040:
You're welcome.

Glad to hear it is all well now.

Thanks for your patience and we are happy to help mate.:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
All nice ideas, mate - and all on the roadmap for the next months :) - except one: shake device to change profile.

I also thought about this possibility - but this would need an always running app for detection. And my philosphy for CHTS is not to have an always running app.

But there is already a great app, which can do this to change CHTS-profiles: G-Trigger.

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=494267&highlight=g-trigger

Just assign the commands of the Quicklinks of CHTS, e.g. to change to a certain profile like OnTheRoad, a certain mode or any other of the new Quicklinks/Toggles to the Shake actions. And you have what you want :)

Also you can stop/start the g-trigger service e.g. in GoodNite/WakeMeUp by executing the g-trigger stop/start command in "execute apps" for a CHTS-Profile.So the service doesn't poll the G-Sensor over night, if that is not needed.

(please also put "chtmaster.exe" to the exception list of g-trigger, that you don't get a double accidently profile change)

The Rest of your wishes will come gradually with the Event handling in the next versions.

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
An example ?

Yes, but if i.e. I set "Ignore wallpaper", what process is supposed to follow this parameter ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] babakm2:
I love CHTS,

Thanx, for fast reply:D

unfortunately G-trigger is not working on HD2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Homer-S:
Hello all,

I am back from vacation and did immideatly the 2.15 update.

I am not sure with the following issue if it is related to CHTS? My HD2 time is jumping 2 hours forward after a while. I dont know when or what it forces it.

Does anyone has the same issue? Is it maybe cused by CHTS?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
no, CHTS doesn't change time or timezone.

Perhaps you have the wintertime-problem as much other users had and only because of your vacation, you mentioned it now?