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[Captivate General] Dani897:
People around here love to complain. I admit that the first firmware version was crap. The usb connection was un reliable, difficult to connect to kies, my gps Worked but not in bad weather. And there was some touch wiz lag. But samsung is supporting this phone and att isn't slowing it. Froyo is waiting on the release of the galaxy tab and the rest of the us line. The cdma variants naturally need more work being that the I-9000 is the development phone and firmware for the others is likely ported from there. It should all be here in november or december.

Ok samsung is no htc, or motorola, they're more like apple. They put out a product ahead of its time and then play catch up with software. Remember the iphone and iphone3g?. Remember how crappy the camera was? And the gps that only worked out doors? And lack of navigation for years because of steve jobs. tom tom and vz navigator had working code a year + before any nav app was on the apple market. But I was lucky if the gps showed my on the correct side of the hudson river if it was in my car. There was no point in a nav app because the phone never really knew where I was.

I may be the only one that is more than satisfied with my gps and find it better than apple. tom tom made a docking station for the iphone with a gps antenna because its gps was so bad. maybe I'm a minority but my gps works in my passenger seat with both jf7 and the froyo builds good weather or bad.

Maybe the next galaxy phone will be better. like the iphone 4 which had much less disappointment than previous versions.

I love the camera app. I like the stock ui and samsung apps and widgets. touch wiz runs great in froyo. The screen and gpu are amazing. Not even the g2 can run open gl like a galaxy s. Love it our hate it there is nothing else like it and won't be for a couple more months.

If you want to use a wii mote or run an aosp rom then get a t mobile phone and put it on att.

Samsung doesn't owe you. They made a phone and you willingly shelled out cash for it. They made no promises that they didn't deliver. If you are not satisfied with the phone you had every opportunity to do research and find the one that best suits you.

Not that every one here is complaining to the extent that they blame samsung, deciding on not getting another samsung its completely reasonable but there is often a bad sentiment about samsung and att on this boardand it hadn't been proven in context to this phone. We don't have froyo, big deal. They promised it but never announced an official date. What expectation can we have? Do you want a half assed rom like jf6 or a froyo build without the frustrations of the original firmware?
[Captivate General] avgjoegeek:
LOL this poll is kind of dumb to begin with. I doubt anyone here has any true "brand loyalty".

If people are stuck with AT&T (or happen to like the carrier :eek:) then whatever AT&T is offering by the time they can upgrade will most likely the phone people will pick. If it's Samsung... then hmm maybe?

But... I will probably not go with Samsung again for a phone. Not because of the lack of software blah blah the confluter valve is maladjusted blah blah.

The AMOLED screen just sucks the battery dry way too fast. The whole point of having a phone with a screen is so I can power it on and like LOOK AT IT for a reasonable period of time and not expect to have to run to the nearest power source to re-charge the damn thing.
[Captivate General] RexEscape:
No..........
[Captivate General] Drew489:
I agree on the G2. Mind sharing your gps settings? I've tried everything. Running cog 2.2

Thanks
[Captivate General] Drew489:
Re: GPS

First off, it's not just for directions. It's a tracking tool for geocaching or exercising. With working and accurate GPS, I can track my runs/walks, it calculates the speed, exact distance traveled and calories burned. It then syncs to my Google account so I can run spreadsheets there.

GPS is also useful for other things like FourSquare, Yelp, Waze and the tons of other apps that use an accurate location to give you information.

I feel like a broken record BUT my 2 year old G1 was definitely an acceptable substitute for real GPS. It was as accurate as my stand-alone.
[Captivate General] Dani897:
Avgjoegeek

The whole point in oled, and amoled is to not suck power, leds are the most efficient light emitter and it only creates the light you see, lcd has an led back light but it creates a constant full power and uses additional power to use the lcd to selectively block light. Power sucking its a symptom of any 4+ inch screen do to the total light created. The phone could maybe use a bigger battery. But I found the battery life quite good. Also I question the accuracy of the android power usage reporting, I felt my battery life was much improved with under volting but it only reports the cpu as having a small percentage of battery drain to begin with, I feel the cpu drain is greater than reported and the screen is less.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
[Captivate General] ua549:
The Captivate was the first and last phone I've purchased that was subsidized and locked to a provider though I've been on AT&T since the 1980's. I travel a lot and had trouble using country local sims until the people here found the hidden unlock code. (Many Thanks!) I love the features, especially the display, but the software quality is severely lacking. The marginal GPS is a big issue for me since I'm often walking in places I've never been.

As for Samsung, I'll reserve judgement until I have Froyo installed and tested.
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
I have to change my answer. I agree it will depend on Froyo push from Samsung but not as much as before. With all the great developers here, it will just take sometime to incorporate the "official" ROM into a ROM worth downloading.

Waiting with baited breath. :)
[Captivate General] fshalor:
I have ta say no.

After experiences with the captivate, I'm going to have to say "no".

It's not a bad phone, and on paper, the "best there ever was". I think Samsung made a mistake. They went for bling, bullets points, and bazokas, when they should have gone for ring, reliability and robustness.

I can't imagine what an average user would have had to go through with this phone. If it hadn't been for XDA, I'd have put it through a wall months ago. Yet, my spidey sense is triggered by this thing... There's just something wrong with it. Samsung is no slouch at programing. And ATT, for all the mixed experiences, does know their game. For them to both still be slightly "stumped" by how exactly to fix this device for good, may be a sign that something basic is causing issues that may be insurmountable with lagfix's and OTA's.

As it is, with my phone, running a clean cognition froyo, with careful control of the GPS performance and careful setting selection of eevrything else; I can NOT get through a week with this thing without it going into some sort of "i'm not going to do my job" behavior.

Yesterday it was inexplicably unable to use data to establish any ssl/SSH connection. So I lost the ability to email for about 4 hours. And the GPS went schizophrenic with random jumps and wild compas behavior. (The iPhone4 in the car came to the rescue.) Today the GPS is back to near solid (it's never been rock solid, all fixes applied and working, and tweak testing done through the *#*# interface, etc.)

If the behavior is next, maybe tomorrow morning my alarm wont ring. Or it will, but the speaker will decide to go numb again and stop working until I press on it.

Or maybe it will decide to do what it did last week, and when I turn the cell radio on, it'll go catatonic every time someone calls. (I have horrible att coverage and the radio/interface is not conducive to weak signal. )
[Captivate General] Mac11700:
For me the answer is no..It won't be the last Samsung smart phone I buy..

I like my phone..it is what it is..a multimedia phone. It plays hd movies great..it plays all of my music files great..It makes all of my phone calls great..and I can download any road map available to download and get to where I need to go. The GPS works good..and I have no lag on it like some here do. So,I know Samsung is capable of building a good phone. The GPS issue..was never a deal breaker for me with it..I knew this going in before ever buying the phone thanks in part to those here that reported the issue..same for the blue tint on the screens..and the 3 button recovery..When I bought mine..I knew what to ask about and what to check for so..I got 2 that worked great.I payed $59.99 for my phone,and am satisfied with what I got for my money..

Mac
[Captivate General] mwilhelm:
I would get another...

I'm stumped... Are people expecting this phone to solve world hunger?

I...:

-bought this about a month after release.

-am a developer and I use this phone stock - love it.

-use the software preloaded and free stuff from the Market and am productive and have fun.

-plug the phone in usually every OTHER night.

-use the GPS, and really haven't had any/many problems

-performed the OTA update without issue

-have friends with iPhone and not a one gets a "full" day without a charge (long work day yes)

-use the camera and get great pics (subject matter not-with-standing)

-watch youtube videos and they're excellent

-read my email, make phone calls and browse the web - making me more responsive to my friends

-am happy with Eclair and can't understand how this is worthless (see initial statement)

-want Froyo too - it is dragging on, but I figure another month or two so I'm ok

-had a previous Samsung, non-smartphone, and it worked flawlessy

-LOVE reading xdadevlopers with my phone

Bottom line, this phone is fantastic, I will root soon, I will play with it even more, and hack it.

YMMV
[Captivate General] mac_novice:
If..

iphone 5 actually does its job as a phone I will switch. Flaky updates, carriers bloat, sucky support, etc turned me off from android period. If Google decides to do own again I may give it a shot. Otherwise it's Captivate until Apple fixes their ****.

Flame away.
[Captivate General] Kubernetes:
It looks like Samsung may be one of the only choices in the future if you want any kind of customization. Motorola and HTC both appear to be going down the path of locking down their phones. Someone may yet perm-root the G2, but as time goes on I'm starting to wonder if it will ever happen. Motorola certainly seems to have found an effective method.
[Captivate General] Dani897:
well i just had an experience with an evo and i will never buy htc period. low build quality! galaxy s phones may look cheesy from the outside with soft plastic on the captivate and epic an a delicate thin back cover on the others but underneath they are built like no other phone i have seen. i consider the galaxy s line to be of exceptional design and quality as far as construction goes.

htc not so much. the evo has a flimsy battery cover and inside the board is thinner and mounted with a single screw and two alignment pins, all the contacts are spring clips even where you might expect ribbon cables that bend the mainboard upwards when the back is removed putting pressure on the single mounting screw. the phone had a cold solder joint on one contact causing it to fall off when the back was removed and the touchscreen was hit or mis and the soft keys were inop. there was no visible physical abuse and no water damage, just defective. not that there aren't defective samsungs. there was no elegance to it, it was like taking apart a childs toy.

say what you want id buy another one any day. especially if they release a lower model w/o touchwiz like sprints transform.
[Captivate General] \/icious:
I thought this might be my last samsung phone but im not entirely sure seeing how other companies are locking theirs down. This phone while one of the best out is still not quite what i would call samsung quality. My gps finally works spot on with the change to darky's raw steel 3.0 but my speaker is going in and out(this was happening pre DRS 3.0). I really dont want to exchange this phone as im afriad of picking up problems many others run into having but this speaker thing is annoying. If can figure out how to fix it myself i will. Ive never owned a samsung product that didnt work perfectly out of the box until now. I generally go with samsung because of their quality but if i buy another phone from them i will probably wont jump on it at release.
[Captivate General] Dani897:
look for parts on ebay, the phone is easy to take apart, if you decide to do it pm me and ill give you a tip so you dont mark it up on the battery cover slider, i might make another teardown thread because i have a better way to get to the hidden screws.

there is an audio module that plugs in with a snap on connector, no real risk to of damaging anything.

i almost encourage changing parts because its not built in a way that you break plastic in disassembly or will have trouble getting it back together.

on a side note i was in a verizon store just for fun and i started my gps and a fascinate and a droid x. mine was the first to get a lock running cog2.3b1

see the froyo update will be worth the wait, they didnt rush it like they could have because they didnt want to disapoint like jf6 did.
[Captivate General] Komodo Rogue:
Actually blackberries are considered smartphones, and I had the blackberry bold 9700 for about a year before gettng a captivate. If i didnt use it hardly at all five days was easily achievable. During more normal use (maybe five short calls during the day and ten text messages, occasional gaming, etc, three days were about the norm. Of course, it doesn't have a touchscreen, the OS is lame, and the screen is smaller, but it was CRAZY going from my blackberry to captivate. Still, even with a four inch screen, I wish it got did better than 12 ish hours for my use.
[Captivate General] \/icious:
i was actually looking for the tear down thread to see if it was an easy swap. Good to know that it shouldnt be much trouble. I would rather swap parts than rma as my hardware seems to be solid. Man its been several flashes since ive mastercleared or returned to stock and i havent had a single hiccup. Im really stoked that my gps is running strong now. I went for a run and it locked almost instantly and was able to keep track of what side of the road i was on and so far its worked perfectly on drives regardless of where its at in my car. Hopefully this isnt short lived
[Captivate General] tbong777:
If a mobile phone centric company Like Nokia, HTC moto made this device I would be all over it. Unfortunately Samsung is the best on ATT in the Android flavor right now....But for the money it is a great device.

I would prefer a Mobile centric company though.....Nokia is out of the running anymore
[Captivate General] Kubernetes:
Like I said earlier though, if Motorola made this device it would have a locked bootloader, which no one has managed to crack, and if made by HTC it would have a locked NAND, which again no one has been able to crack.

Samsung definitely has software issues, but at least that's fixable on a phone that's easy to root (heck even sim-unlocking is absurdly easy on these phones).
[Captivate General] \/icious:
Question is how long will this last? Once one company does something others tend to follow suit.
[Captivate General] Dani897:
at that point china will respond with higher quality phones that we will buy because they are not locked out. it may be a lie, i dont know, but i heard that in chinese the word is the same for crisis and opritunty so that might give you an idea of there mind set.

ill support samsung as long as they make good hardware and we can find fixed software for it. hell the koreans might not lock it out if they realize that there is an appeal to the power users, and with odin there are probably fewwer sent back than other manufacturers might have.
[Captivate General] \/icious:
Seeing how this isnt samsungs bread and butter and how hard these things are to brick i can see them not locking these things down. I hope so anyways.
[Captivate General] emuneee:
Super AMOLED is addictive, so unless other manufacturers get access to Super AMOLED (or something better), this is probably not my last Samsung device.
[Captivate General] kvenubabu:
Captivate is my first Samsung phone. Except GPS, I don't have any issues so far. I like the hardware and screen. So I would say I'll stick with Samsung for a while .
[Captivate General] djfrost40:
Well I will say this...after the samsung galaxy s series phone..I don't think Apple has anything to worry about. Samsung has pissed off a lot people with it's firmware updates and delays. The galaxy s was a good idea but at the end of the day Apple started it and will finish it.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
Apple has never started anything.
[Captivate General] n311.dunkle:
I may upset some people on this thread but I love my Captivate. This phone its what I've been waiting for. I switched from Nokia to Samsung about 4 years ago and had the Blackjack 2 for three years pissed off with Windows mobile and literally praying for a Samsung running Android. I use gps a lot so I'll get frustrated from time to time, but I couldn't be happier with this phone. I only expect Samsung to get better with updates and won't switch to another company (especially Apple) until Goole becomes annoyingly corporate like their competition. I compete with iPhone 4 users all the time and always find myself on top. This phone is chock full of potential and the developers on XDA make things possible. Anybody regretting not getting the iPhone may as well wear a wool coat and baa like the rest of them. This phone rocks!
[Captivate General] Dani897:
not individually, all there tech is borrowed but it may have been the first to combine so many features into one harware when the iphone/itouch came out.

people are only po'd cuz they have unreasoable expectations. the phone exceeds the competition in many areas but it cant work miracles, there is no best phone, they all have complaints. my gps is on par with motorola but highend htcs seem to be freakishly good but i would never buy one. the delay on froyo is probably part of a plan to release it on the whole line at once and to go along with the galaxy tab. it prevents disapointment from one carrier or another.

iOS4 has nothing on android, never will. and apple had the brilliant idea of veneering the back of the phone with glass, dirt gets under the case if you have one and scratches it, then it breaks, then you walk around bleeding from your hands! no thanks! i would rather have a phone that doesn't maim my fingers and has a working antenna!
[Captivate General] boodies:
i've tried many phones including the new G2 and Mytouch. This SGS is by FAR the fastest and snappiest phone ever. Once Nexus Samsung comes out, im all over it!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Captivate General] m.e.:
This is my third Samsung smartphone.

Samsung hardware is great, they suck in software so I prefer for OS to be built completely by somebody else, without Samsung touching it with crap like RFS.

After Epix, I was ready to dump Samsung forever, but thought that Android update story might be better than WinMo and gave Captivate a try. Turned out Android compatibility and update story is way worse than even old Windows Mobile - completely dependent on OEM, plus OEMs add their crap like RFS (I've never heart about anyone doing such with WinMo, could not even imagine such atrocities happen to Android).

So I was ready to dump Samsung, but now thinking about taking a chance with Focus. From what I've read, WP7 almost eliminates OEMs from software manufacturing - WP7 software and updates come directly from Microsoft, OEMs can add their own changes to Microsoft updates if they wish, but Microsoft is releasing the updates and fully responsible for OS. WP7 looks great, and Samsung hardware is great, with no dependency on Samsung software, I'm planning to go with Focus.
[Captivate General] Dell2:
Samsung's support is a joke, and I would rather not deal with them again. Out of the box, captivates are not good phones, and I would never recommend it to anyone who is not technically inclined. But due to the hard work of developers on this website, my captivate is optimized and extremely high end.

If something happened to my captivate right now, yes I would get another one. Mainly because I don't want to go through the growing pains of another operating system (WP7), and IOS has stagnated (minimal difference between 3gs and Iphone4).
[Captivate General] wonder186:
Can we reset this poll and see what the numbers are today?
[Captivate General] Delgoth:
I don't plan on getting another captivate. That's for sure, but samsung makes done bad ass phones. I mean next time I will surely investigate the dev community more before a new phone. But the captivate is powerful.

We just don't have the raging following like the droid or evo
[Captivate General] cappysw10:
This will be the last Samsung phone I buy off contract. Maybe...just maybe, when I get an upgrade, I might think of another Samsung phone but that's a year and a half from now. I'll be watching Samsung to see if they do the right thing, otherwise HTC here I come!
[Captivate General] JRd1st:
I have a year and a half until my contract is over, too.

I actually love the Captivate hardware, and in my opinion, if AT$T wasn't so worried about trying to make the phone NOT do things is was built to do then we probably would have had Froyo in Nov.

What Samsung needs to do is to grow a pair and tell AT$T to shove it because AT$T's policies is making Samsung look bad. Sort of what Apple did when they were negotiating with AT$T...

Soooo, will I get another Samsung? Prolly not unless they start putting integrity ahead of expediency.
[Captivate General] Miami_Son:
I wonder if this poll were started today or if previous voters could go back and change their votes, how the numbers would stack up.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
The fact that the split was that severe all the way back then, the poll would probably read 90%/10% today.
[Captivate General] tjsooley:
Last samsung product ever
[Captivate General] shiftylock:
hm. 41.77% said yes. Present company included. I recently purchased an LG Quantum (Yes, I still wince a bit when I see the LG logo) But it fits my needs better than the Captivate. I have a zune pass, which makes the streaming thing pretty cool. I loved my Captivate until I started needing a reliable phone. Android is far superior to WP7 OS, but... meh... WP7 works, is snappy, and I can actually text and walk without running into people. Sorry samsung, but the cappy is my last :c
[Captivate General] darkamikaze:
I'm really surprised.. the poll is majority no...

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[Captivate General] mepis:
Just a quick reply.

I didn't read all ten pages, because frankly, I'm tired of hearing everyone complain about Samsung phones.

That's not an insult to any owners here. I work at an AT&T device support center and Samsung phones are our biggest issue. We keep more in stock of any Samsung model then any other device from any manufacturer. The Impression and Captivate seem to be our biggest issue phone. At any given time we may keep ~30 phones of each in stock, while most other afford shelf space for only three.
[Captivate General] gjgcomputers:
In my experience...

I change cell equipments very much. From the Motorola Ultratac (A long time ago...), to Nokia's, Sony's, Blackberry's, etc.

When I hit the Samsung Captivate, I hit the jackpot. It's true that it is not the perfect equipment. But for the use that I do, it's almost perfect.

I'm a software developer and I love the thing about changing roms, icons, etc. and I hate the limitations of the IPhone (as it's comes out of the box).

I remember when a Cellphone will never fit in your pocket, then to the super mini equipments that were very annoy to use for people with glasses (like me).

I like the Captivate, and most likely my next phone will be a Samsung (something like the Galaxy S 2 that is rumored to be coming soon with a Dual Core 1Ghz processor and 1Gb RAM).

I no longer travel with my laptop. The equipment does almost anything that I need when I'm away from my laptop.