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[Touch HD General] TarekElsakka:
Hello there,

Yes, I'm well aware of the stickied thread that has most of the answers I was looking for, but there are still a few questions in mind:

1) Is it slow on your Blackstone or does it work just as fine as Windows Mobile in terms of speed (opening, closing applications, making a phone call, etc.)

2) I Googled about Android on WinMo HTC phones before I came here and I came across a few posts that said sound isn't that great and text messaging doesn't work most of the time. Is that true?

3) If you can do me the biggest favor and list the MAJOR issues (downsides) of running Android on the HTC phones that came with WinMo?

I am buying an HTC HD in a couple of days and I was really eager to try out the Android OS. I have had bad experiences with Windows Mobile before but I am pretty sure with XDA Developers on my side, everything will be as easy as water.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this, guys.

PS: Is the HTC Magic worth it? Is it or the HD better?
[Touch HD General] htcrum:
All

1) It works quite fast - for example i use to draw with skecher and listen some music^^

at same time, applications starts pretty well (but some times crash just after start, but not often!)

2) messeging works fine (as sms gmail gtalk), no questions to browser speed as well

3) camera not working

PS i'v bought HD few weeks ago only because Android works on it:)
[Touch HD General] TarekElsakka:
Thank you very much for your quick and thorough reply, Mr. htcrum.

I guess the camera isn't much of an issue as I'm not the type of people who keep taking pictures. That's in addition to the fact that I have a digital camera that I can just use.

By the way, is switching between Android and Windows Mobile fast or does it take a long time? How long does it take to be precise?

Oh and is battery life when on Android way worse than on Windows Mobile or do you not notice a difference?
[Touch HD General] htcrum:
switching from android to windows takes 1-2 minutes (actualy i never check this)

booting android is mostly similar as windows

about battery - it discharges in about 10-12 hours with slight usage, and I really don't know how it is in windows - i use it for android booting only :)

and i forgot to say about another issue - usb mass storage might not work
[Touch HD General] Aidolonian:
What do you really mean about " about 10-12 hours with slight usage"? I am just interested because I would really like to test some android rom's but if the battery life is so bad I can wait little longer and stick on WinMo.

Just for comparison my average battery live with WinMo 6.1 without touchflo is from 3 to 5 days depending on how much I use GPS and surf around internet.
[Droid Incredible Accessories] ximfinity:
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The skins are $15 on gelaskins site and they cover the full phone - the screen, and have matching wallpapers.

http://gelaskins.com/store/skins/phones/HTC_Droid_Incredible
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3523324:
help!which rom can re-partition the T959?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ewells30:
I had the same problem and after a lot of trial and error I fixed it. What I did was loaded up Odin, but my phone in download mode, and then used Odin to flash this file to my phone which repartioned it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=740558

And then after that used Odin again and went back to JDF release and then rooted my phone and then loaded up Clockwork Mod Recovery and then flashed Eugene's Franklin-Touch Wiz Update 3, redid the lag fix and used Odin to flash the best modem.bin and I was all set. I have on purpose bricked my phone at least 5 times and have always been able to recover it

Eric
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheExpertNoob:
JFD and chose Re-Partition in ODIN
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cordell12:
I just flash a OC kernel to my sprint* hero. I am running Fresh 2.4 with the 710 OC kernel (chose 710 thinking it will be more stable, yes/no?). Before flashing this Kernel I was using AutoKiller on Optimum mode to help keep the phone in line. I am wondering now if AutoKiller is conflicting with my OC'ing of the phone. Should I uninstall the AutoKiller, or maybe change the mode to Chuck Norris? I just dont want the phone to act like a PC does with 2 anti-virus programs installed on it! :eek:

thanks
[Hero CDMA Android Development] t12icky0:
IN my opinion no one should have an autokiller app on there phone. The Android OS kills apps when it needs the space for another app. If it helps i use a program called FAST REBOOT that works pretty good. when the phone starts feeling sluggish i just fast reboot and it makes it run better.

on a side note....this is a Question and it belongs in the Q&A section not here in development.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cordell12:
Thanks for the input. I will try without it and check out Fast Boot!

Mods Please move thread to Q and A :)
[Hero CDMA Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
The fact you called it "an autokiller app", as well as your explanation why you shouldn't have it, shows you really have no clue what AutoKiller is.

What you are referring to is a TASK killer, and I agree ... no one needs it because the internal memory manager does the same function much more fluidly and does not require an extra running process, hence is lighter on the system. AutoKiller (the actual app) simply allows you to customize the settings for that internal memory manager. This is pretty much necessary because the settings for this manager haven't changed at all since Android first debuted, and these settings basically leave you with around 25 MB remaining. That may be awesome for a G1, but for more powerful devices like our hero it is SLUGGISH, so upping the internal settings just performs the exact same function with more effective results for our devices.

To answer the original question, the only conflict that could exist is if the kernel itself has its own memory manager embedded. I've been on CM6 for some time, so I'm not sure if the kernel you chose has such a memory manager. If it does, however, it most likely has the same upgraded settings as you would hope to attain with AutoKiller. In this case, there is no need.

Hope this answers your question more completely.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cordell12:
It does, Thanks! I do have the Advanced Task Killer (everyone has or had at one point! lol) and will lose that app right away! With the advanced task killer I still drop in free memory, so it doesnt seem to be doing anything, or what I want it to do. Just kills a few apps, like you said android will do that on it own. The Kernel I have is Darchstars Kernel vUV2 710mhz for roms using 2.1 RUU. It states in big letters "BUGS IN zIMAGE FREEMEMKILLER" just wondering if the AutoKiller has the same issues as the FreeMeKiller? My memory will drop to 50 right now, that is with autokiller set to optimum, I want to raise it higher to keep more free memory, didnt want a conflict though.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] mrinehart93:
If you are using a kernel made for 2.1, you should not be using it. CyanogenMod 6 is built on Android 2.2, so either use the stock kernel or UncappedKernel from Decad3nce. Second, having the processor clocked at 710Mhz will NOT make the phone more stable. If anything, it will become unstable because of the added heat and power needed to run the processor. A good overclock that I've found that should be stable on our phones is from 650-690Mhz. Although I've been running my phone at 590Mhz, and I haven't found any real-life difference in the speeds. Like said above, tweaking the minfree (the Android internal task killer) is perfectly fine. What you do NOT want to do is use a program like Task Killer or Advanced Task Killer, since those will both end unnecessary processes, which will then have to be restarted, in effect using more battery and CPU cycles. So the best way, if you want, is to tweak the minfree settings with a program like Autokiller.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cordell12:
I am using Fresh 2.4, not CyanogenMod 6. I think there is a lower OC than what I am using. I will have to check, I knew the 768 would be way to much so I chose the 710 (middle option), so yes there is a lower OC. I have uninstalled the advanced task killer, it seems to be doing fine with AutoKiller set to "Strict" that keeps my memory around 60, before it would drop to low 40s :eek: I am new to all this so trial and error on my part will help me find a happy medium. I am getting a lot of help here and at android forums, thats how I found this site :) My wife has the same phone and is jealous of my speed but is scared to let me flash a rom to hers. She watched me stressing out when I was getting stuck in boot loops! :o I kept trying to partition my SD card to get apps2sd working, every time I after my partition I would get stuck in a dang boot loop. Seems after I partition the SD I need to re-flash my rom in order to get Fresh to see the partition. Or I think thats the issue? As of now I dont have a class 6 SD card, just found out I will need one so I am gonna wait for the apps2sd thing.

thanks
[Hero CDMA Android Development] cordell12:
691 is the lowest Kernel, so either 691, 710, or 768. Will the 691 make that much of a difference than the 710? Stock is 528 I think :(
[Hero CDMA Android Development] t12icky0:
yea my bad..lol. i had a brain fart. thought it said task killer.
[Hero CDMA Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
Like I said, I'm on CM6, but I run Aggressive with no problem. In reality, either Strict or Aggressive works well, but if you up it above that then it basically starts interpreting every application running in the background as an extraneous app and kills it aggressively whether you're using it or not. Also, because the system is constantly trying to increase the memory thats available to meet the thresholds, it is constantly working to close programs that aren't there, and then it becomes a bog on the system again. Long story short, stick to Strict and you should find that perfect balance and remain smooth.
[Galaxy Tab General] aefelix:
Any suggestion on how to?

I'm on a jh8 and saw a couple of more recent build around.

No kies support for the tab so only way I think is the old sweet odin :-), but at the moment I still can't find a way to put the little (NO, NOT REALLY LITTLE) beast in download mode.

TIA

Ciao.
[Galaxy Tab General] clubtech:
And how did you get your tab ? Mind sharing ? :)
[Galaxy Tab General] Drairo:
what ifff???

Kool what about if for some reason I rename the wrong file start the phone on recovery mode and hit reinstall package? (galaxy S).

Did the right when rooting my nexus Sorry
[Galaxy Tab General] LostAlone:
The Tab has buttons no ? Volume rocker, home and power ? Maybe a few others ? Don't see why three-button combo would be totally out of the question, but if it'll have that feature we have to wait and see...

However, I second the general feeling of confusion. Do you have an actual Tab ? If so where are you seeing 'new builds' for it ?
[Galaxy Tab General] aefelix:
Already posted before forum double crash ;)

Yes I've got a developer TAB and yes is on froyo and my build is named jh8.

There are other builds around (downloadable tar ji3,4 and 5), I've downloaded a ji5 and want to try an upgrade.

The TAB has no hardware button except volume and power, home back search an menu are touch enabled buttons that when the tab is powered off are totally unpowered so the three button combo cant be executed.

So, long story short, I need to put the TAB on download mode to proceed to an upgrade via odin(my jhi firm release is a tar file)

Hope I clarified all.

TIA

MAX
[Galaxy Tab General] Bumble-Bee:
1. You are a lucky man

2. How much free rem does it have for app's ?

3. Maybe there is some other hidden button (is there removable covers ?) / Have u tried holding power + vol up |or| power +vol down . . . . also try while plugged in ?

4. Are you rooted if so "reboot download" via adb will be your answer
[Galaxy Tab General] aefelix:
1. Yes I am ;)

2. 435 mb ram available for app's

3. no removable cover and no hidden buttons , already done the vol up or/and down + power and is a no go. I cant remember If I was connected while trying the combos so I'll give another try in a while and report back.

4. Rooted and now on download mode using adb(but I just noticed that while connected pressing power + vol down enter in download mode.! performing the update...is taking about triple galaxy s time to update via odin...cross my fingers...

update1: updated my tab now boot but with strange behaviours on the screen and after that remains black(on but black), redone the update checking in odin re-partition, no go.

now try another firmware...

no go with any firmware, no recovery mode(neither with adb) only download mode...help needed;(

(i think I'm not so lucky ;)...sometimes stupid)
[Galaxy Tab General] Bumble-Bee:
Ohh Noes .... send it to me and ill fix lol :P J/K

Where did u get the F/W from ? did it include a .pit file ? and did u repartition if not u need a .pit for that device and reparttion. . . . Ill look for some fix for you

Glad the Power + Pwr UP + plugged in worked :P
[Galaxy Tab General] aefelix:
Thanks a lot for your help, I used a pit file included with the firmware(I think is a generic one .803 and causing problems) first time i tried the upgrade i forgot to check repartition, then tried again with repartition checked, no go. Now I cant put it in recovery mode, only download...Help from everyone is greatly apreciated ;)

ps. (I' m receiving another TAB ... your help will be rewarded ;))
[Galaxy Tab General] Bumble-Bee:
Where did u get the FW from ... PM me and ill see if we can get it running again :-D.

im got an idea about what is happaning but ill keep to myself untill i have more proof ... if im right there hasnt been any long term damage :-D
[Galaxy Tab General] LostAlone:
Agreed there is probably no real damage. If you can put it in download mode, you can save it.

At the very least you should be able to push the old firmware back on, taken from a second unit, but I don't really have the skills to do that kinda stuff.

GL on getting it working again.
[Galaxy Tab General] aefelix:
Hi folks, still need your help to revive my TAB. Anyone can manage .pit files? I think the problem resides there...

I've got different firms but no luck, if someone found a .pit file for the tab write 2 lines to inform me.

TIA
[Galaxy Tab General] giz2003:
Hi I have a dev Tab as well with 2.1 eclair on it. I anm trying to update it through kies and odin but no luck.

When the phone is in Download mode on odin it does not recognise the device. It says no device drivers found on wind7.

On Kies it doesn't connect at all and on the screen it says pc coneected.

Is their anyone out there that can help with drivers I think or another way to get the pc to recogniser it to update through lies or odin.

thanks
[Galaxy Tab General] daniel.weck:
Regarding the USB device drivers for Windows 7 x64...just do an online search on your favorite search engine, you will find a few sources where to download them from ;) (tip: whatever works for the Samsung Galaxy S works for the Tab)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] v_lestat:
i used a rom a while back that had an iphone style slide to unlock screen.

i think it was virus rom or vaelpak..i forget.

is this readily available here?

i am on the phone using xda app so cant search.

can someone point me in the right direction?

thanks!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] timothydonohue:
any aosp rom will have it (like cyanogenmod)

fresh rom has it, if you update using freshupdater

i don't know about the others
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] v_lestat:
hmm dont use aosp stuff.

i will have to look i think it wad vaelpak that was senseless...

so does that mean its a sense thing that wont allow the sideways unlock?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Saturn2K:
It is a sense thing, but on any 2.2 Sense rom you can remove the HTCLockscreen and the original one will appear in its place. It works, but you can't use it for controlling Sense applications (music, calendar, sense alarm clock).
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sdotcarlisle:
You have a couple options. If you have EStrongs file explorer and root and read/write turned on go to /system/app/ and delete htclockscreen.apk. or you can flash the attached file. this removes the HTC Sense lockscreen and just leaves the vanilla. If you use sense apps like alarm they wont work properly so you should download an alternative from the market like open alarm or AlarmKlock
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] bigj225:
Actually the alarm will work as long as you use the asop clock to set alarms...
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] HolySabre:
Just wondering if there still isn't anyway to use the vanilla lock screen to answer calls yet?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] v_lestat:
oh i know i can just remove the apk, but oh god i hate the Vanilla lock screen... blah yuck.

ok first thing you'll say is the iphone style is nearly the same.

nope, it isnt is my answer.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] beandogg:
You can also use widget locker on the market. it has an option for iPhone style screen unlocker.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] K-Driod:
Widget locker.....
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bighitter:
Since some think that the GPS hardware (that can't be fixed by software settings) in the Captivate is crap, do you think that Samsung should use hardware from a different GPS provider in their next version of the phone? Does Broadcom have any GPS hardware in other phones that work well? Other than buying a Garmin phone, are there any other phones out there that use "true" GPS, as in one that you would find in a "real" handheld GPS device? I see/hear a lot of people returning their phones strictly because of the GPS not working well.

I'm just wondering if there will ever be a GPS fix for my Captivate, if the hardware is at fault. If it is a poor GPS chip in the phone, there's not much we can do about it, unless the GPS manufacturer updates their driver and they produce some type of software fix.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haydonxda:
I updated my Captivate with the OTA update that claims to "fix" GPS performance. It has improved from never getting a fix to providing one relatively quickly. However it loses the fix moving, it loses the fix for NO REASON when stationary (sitting on a surface with a clear view of the sky), goes nearly a minute without updating at times and isn't accurate. People that are using it and saying it works great have never used a real GPS before. The Captivate is useful for location based services at best and hopefully with more improvements navigation.

I compared it side by side with a 9 year old Garmin eTrex and the ancient eTrex blew the Samsung out of the water. Initial fix on the Samsung was faster (thanks to AGPS) but while the Garmin hovered between 6-8ft CEP and the Galaxy S was about 32ft CEP. This makes the Garmin about 30x more accurate in my book.

This was both outside and INSIDE in my home. To the naysayers that say GPS shouldn't be working indoors please take a walk. It depends on the construction of your home. The fact that a 9 year old GPS receiver that was never known for its sensitivity beats the pants off off the Galaxy S really speaks to how much of a terrible joke the phone's GPS is.

If I could I would return the phone. This OTA update was AT&T and Samsung's fix for the GPS and I believe they're going to say it's "done". Because they'll claim to have fixed it already I hold out no hope that this issue will be further addressed and am upset I have the phone. GPS is a basic feature for such a well-spec'ed phone - we shouldn't be thankful when features work - we should demand that they do.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxbat121:
I'd say probably that's all Samsung can do for its crapy implementation of BroadCOM 4751 chip. The GPS chip may be the latest and greatest (newer than the one used in iPhone4, BCM4750) but we are the beta testers for BroadCom/Samsung as the chip is very new (released in April 2010) and never field tested in any devices.

I have no doubt that we will see great GPS performance from this chip later on from other phones or GPS devices. Just not from any of the current Samsung Galaxy S phones. There is only so much they can do to compensate in software for the bad hardware implementation. Ultimately they have to change the board design and/or chip designs to address the real issue. I just can't see Samsung willing to recall millions of existing SGS phones back and replace the motherboard on each one of them.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheSopranos16:
The update was certainly discouraging. The phone really has no ability to track you correctly on GPS when moving and it loses its lock frequently. Wasn't there a leaked vibrant rom that fixes the tracking part of GPS? Having something like that come to the Captivate is really the only hope we have left at this point.

I'm not a GPS expert, but since basically every phone that comes out these days has a working GPS, I really can't understand how Samsung managed to screw this up. I'm sure that GPS is quite complicated, but aren't the methods and alrogithms for calculating position from the data pretty well established at this point? I don't know why its this difficult for them to get this right. They souldn't have to reinvent the wheel with this; just implement an existing algorith. I wish I knew what is so challenging for them, it seems way to easy for this much time to go by without addressing this properly.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IllegalOpcode:
This needs to go in Q&A or General.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foxbat121:
It is not the algorithm, it is the chip. For what ever reason, Samsung decided to use the latest and greatest, but untested, GPS chip that was officially anounced only the spring of 2010. Basically, we are beta testers for BroadCom for its BCM4751 version 1.0 sillicon. Of course, adding a slighly bigger or better GPS atenna inside the phone probably will help too but Samsung has to cut corners somewhere (they always do) :)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mindfrost82:
I'm also disappointed with the GPS in this phone. I have a standalone Garmin that I bought this summer, but its nice to know that I can use the phone if I don't have my Garmin with me...but I can't rely on this thing.

I had the Nexus One before this and its GPS was great. I used it on a 300+ mile trip between St. Louis and Chicago and it never lost its fix.

I like the Captivate better for its screen, true multitouch and better graphics processor (although I don't really notice a difference there).

I like the Nexus One better for more ROMs (Cyanogen), stock Android, WORKING GPS, first for updates.

IF (and that's a big IF), they can get GPS to be reliable while driving, then I will prefer this phone.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drez22:
It is very frustrating. I purchased 2 Captivates, one for my wife and one for myself. Both phones are factory still. The wifes gps works excellently, fix within 5 seconds (indoors too).....whereas my gps couldn't find me if I was the only crumb on the plate.

I returned the first phone. The second phone handed to me worked just as my wifes did. Excellent gps fixes. This phone unfortunately had the turn off problem. If the phone was in my pocket for any period off time it would turn off.

I returned this one for a third phone. The third phone stays on but still has the gps problem.

Is it the device, the hardware or the software, you be the judge!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mindfrost82:
Its still hard to say. Signs are starting to point towards hardware, but it could also just be poor drivers, which will eventually get fixed hopefully.