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[G2 and Desire Z General] udovoodoo:
No internal memory difference

Note that beside the Internal Memory Specs of 1.5 GB for the HTC Desire Z you will notice a number 1. This refers you down to the bottom of the specs page where it states: "1. The actual available internal phone storage may differ depending on the software configuration of your phone." Link

I believe the there is no difference in the internal phone storage of the G2 and the Desire Z. I concur that the new HTC Sense 3.0 on the Desire Z probably takes up a lot more space than the stock Android 2.2. Hence the difference in software configuration.

:)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Noxis:
Does that mean you could provide more ram to the OS (as in instead of the 512MB the Z has while the HD has 768MB) you could up both to say 1GB with a software hack?

I really am clueless when it comes to how these modern phone devices allocate memory internally.
[G2 and Desire Z General] udovoodoo:
Internal phone storage is ROM. RAM is not changeable. I am talking about the Internal phone storage not RAM. I am also talking about the Desire Z and G2 and not the Desire HD.
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijoubu:
To add, there are differences in the keyboard button configurations too. Physical layout is the same, but the key mapping is different. Nothing major though.
[G2 and Desire Z General] steviewevie:
You mean "HTC Desire Z", right ? :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ready2Mosh:
I have the t-mobile (USA) G2, got it yesterday. When you look at sd card and internal storage the internal storage available is only 1.23 gigs, sd card is 7.6 gigs and the screen is SLCD and looks great, it holds up well even in direct sunlight.
[G2 and Desire Z General] yudhistre:
So are you saying that the 4Gigs of ROM is fake/lie ????
[G2 and Desire Z General] daijizai:
I can confirm. Opened it today and am pissed.

I don't see how it could be legit... Android does not take 2.8 GB!
[G2 and Desire Z General] iamsupreme:
Why are you pissed? You got an, by all account, awesome phone several days early.
[G2 and Desire Z General] duglas:
I got my G2 today..

I currently have a Nexus One and Samsung Vibrant. I like the N1 better because of the trackball..

the G2 has a little trackpad that works well.. So far it is pretty cool.

Has 2.2 on it but no wireless teethering on it.. need a new rom.. PDA net sucks because you have to use a cable.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ready2Mosh:
I am also disappointed about not having my full amount of ROM, gonna call tmobile tomorrow and see what they have to say.
[G2 and Desire Z General] mrkev150:
Would suck if some early G2 preorders were sent just rebadged Desire Zs. The Desire Z has 2gb on board, unlike the G2 which has 4gb on paper. However, the DesireZ has an FM radio that the G2 lacks. I would take the FM radio instead of 2gb internal ram.
[G2 and Desire Z General] borodin1:
Not possible. G2 has unique radio bands (AWS).
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ready2Mosh:
Anyone have a Desire Z to see how much ROM is left right out of the box? That will answer a lot of questions, but I still think we're only getting 2.1 gigs of internal vs. the 4 we're supposed to get.
[G2 and Desire Z General] diversificationied:
Unless HTC has changed the wifi/bluetooth/fm chip they've been using for their past three billion devices, both the G2 and Desire Z are FM capable, just not FM accessible in stock(G2).

See N1/Desire and the HD2
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] zimphishmonger:
Hey everyone,

Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.

What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?

Thanks!
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Master™:
I would also like to know this??
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] The K-Zoo Kid:
Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] gravis86:
No because GV uses data
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Goog1e Phone:
Juice Defender will definitely save you battery, but it depends what type of user you are.

I used to love this app. It was one of my top 3 apps and I recommended this app to everyone I knew. It saved me a few hours of battery life with the default settings. But one day I decided to turn it off to see how my phone would preform. I noticed that JD slows down my phone (not too much, but since I play with my phone a lot, I do notice a difference). I kinda figured this since every time I turned my screen on, it would have to reconnect itself to 3G. It got a bit of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it won't bug that many people.

Now, my friend uses this app as well, and he gets amazing battery life with JD enabled. He only turns on his phone when he needs to (check email, responds to text, picks up a call, etc.)

So for the past month or so, I have stopped using JD. I'm the type of guy that touches my phone every 30 min or so. I like turn it on and mess with it just for the hell of it. So if you're like me, then I do not recommend this app, since you will notice a slight lag after turning the screen on with JD enabled.

Now if you're at work and only check your phone when you have to, then I highly recommend this app. It will definitely save you battery life. Don't know too much about the settings since I haven't touched it in awhile, but I mainly left it at the default settings.

Another tip that I noticed that saves battery is orientation. Ever since I disabled it in settings, I do notice a battery increase (I'm guessing the sensors are not always on causing it to save more battery?) Hope this little review helps zimp.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Demiurgic:
You can set it to turn on every 15 mins or whatever so you can still get your messages. I didn't like how it keep turn off my data every time the screen turned off even if it was only for a sec. I'm not convined that continually turn data on/off improves battery. If you leave phone on stand by for several hours then maybe, but I don't think a.power user gets much benefit from it. Also it is always running in the background so just having a widget to switch to plane mode might work better for you.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] cnrdjkr:
I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.

also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.

in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..

i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.

real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Master™:
I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] henreeg:
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.

Not for me.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] rUsTyRuSs:
To op, I used Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice and noticed it would slow my phone down and I would miss syncs and my information would go out of wack. I found the best way to conserve battery as an overuser is to turn off 3g. I use 2g 3g switcher. It allows you to switch between 3g and 2g. I gained at least 6 more hours on a full charge by turning it on only when I need the 3g speeds. Ie: downloading and surfing the net. For everything else Edge was more than enough. I went from roughly 12 hours medium-heavy use to 20-24. I'm also using Jac's uv voodoo kernel and vibrant 9.

I hope this helps,

Russ
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Br1cK'd:
Agreed, I noticed an increase in battery life after uninstalling jd.

I did get better batery life after installing JAC's kernel (with undervolting) on top of bionix 1.3. I did not oc, yet. I read in the op you use vodoo, there is a JAC's kernel with voodoo written in with it now, but the process from going from your stock with voodoo to a new kernel with voodoo is admittedly beyond my experience level to talk about. That might garner some research on your part. The undervolting written into the kernel does extend battery life, I've been off my charger since about 9 this morning, normal to heavy use, currently at 43 percent battery left.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] kolyan:
use Tasker app. much better then JuiceDefender and much more options.....pretty much endless options. and it also supports all Locale Plug-ins.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] zimphishmonger:
Thanks for the recommendations! Interesting that so many of you actually had worse battery life after using it. May try it for another day and see how it works out.

Regarding the voodoo, I am still testing to see if voodoo uses more power or not. Theoretically it shouldn't, but who knows. its extremely easy to enable\disable voodoo, so easy that its worth keeping even if you keep it disabled, as its the same kernel as JAC's UV but + voodoo.

Appreciate the responses. I will play w/ JD for another day or so, will try tasker, adn see which has the best results.

To those that were worried about syncs like Voice, Emails, tweets, etc, its really easy to set it up so that those processes arent interrupted, especially w/ the ultimatejuice. I have it set up so it still syncs and background data apps like pandora work fine, just interested in everyones experience :)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] frankencat:
Zim, I was having battery drain issues with jac's oc-uv kernel until I did the cycle/reset batt stats. Not I am getting GREAT battery life! You prolly already tried it but if not give it a shot. :)
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] Ronin09:
Juice Defender has increased my battery life by x2.22...........really remarkable this program is!

Droid Incredible
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] spyda23:
Ha that's funny.

Sent from my Vibrant using

Axura 2.3.1.0

OverStock

KB1

Ginger Blue Theme

Black Market

TouchWiz MMS & Music Player
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlowery88:
i was running frankin twiz(9/20) and kk kernel. tried to revert back to stock phone.. did a backup with clockwork, deleted user data and cache and now my phone just force closes android and i can't get it to load anything or make it where my phone is usable..help.. cant get into adb mode, cant get drivers to install, what else can i do? if i put a update.zip on an external sd will it be able to install the rom once im in recovery mode? Thanks for any input
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gravis86:
Can you get into Download Mode?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zombierockstar:
Were you running a lag-fix?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlowery88:
i was running vodoo lag fix..no i cant get into download mode, only recovery mode

in recovery mode it says error, cannot find update.zip file.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zombierockstar:
Did you happen to dis-able the Voodoo lag-fix before flashing the stock ROM?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlowery88:
no i did not, and now i do not know anything i can do..
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yodaddy:
That's a tough one, the maker of Bionix said you would greatly regret not disabling vodoo before flashing.. voodoo sounded like something I don't ever want to mess with for that reason alone, so I never will. sry I can't help, maybe download mode on odin and load fresh factory rom
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlowery88:
im in download mode on the device and i have odin opened, how do i flash the stock rom now? also how do i get odin to find my device? thanks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masterotaku:
To get odin to find your device in download mode you simply need the proper drivers installed. Be sure to plug in the device in download mode and let Windows detect the download interface properly before you run Odin. I'd also strongly advise you use Odin3 v1.3 (found in Dev section...also a link to this in the Vibrant Bible post) instead of Odin3 v1.0.

In the Bionix 1.3 thread, instructions for dealing with the "oops I forgot to deal with disabling Voodoo" screw up are in the first post, right after "Did You Flash Something Before Disabling Voodoo? Then This Fix is For You." It's a bit involved, but I've made this mistake myself last week (I misspelled the disable-lagfix of all things), and the method worked as advertised.

Best of luck!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yodaddy:
learning how to use odin was a bit of a challenge, there's a really good youtube video.. this is the link- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY7P14JSWQ -copy and paste in browser this guides you on how to get back to stock on odin, which is a great place to start fresh.. make sure you have the samsung drivers installed on your computer, helps computer recognize our android
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yodaddy:
SUPER IMPORTANT!! open odin 1st as administrator, then whith phone (off) hold both up and down volume keys and plug in usb while holding them
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlowery88:
thanks everyone for the tips, i got back to the stock rom now. and even got a lesson in using odin to flash in the future
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rbaggio00:
i tried to install a different unlock screen and my phone had a ton of force close i was able to get into download mode and odin open, it reads the phone but it gets stuck at setup connection for ever any ideas on how to bypass that so i can revert to stock
[Fascinate Themes and Apps] wicked_beav:
Is there anyone who has been able to or been successful at getting the Google Car Dock App to work on our Fascinate? I have gotten it to install by pushing it to /system/app but then after reboot the phone begins an endless ringing until you delete the app and reboot the phone.

That being said, if not can we get someone/dev to help get this to work?

That stock BS that Verizon decided to include is garbage. No music access, VZW Navigator, etc.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alsheron:
Hi - I'm new here - only just got my Galaxy S about 5 days ago (UK o2) and vowed not to mess with it until the official Froyo comes out.

Anyway....of course that didn't last long! I've learned about the different available ROMS - first I tried the lagfix - the new Voodoo one with the colour fix that looks interesting - actually seemed to make my JM1 more laggy if that's possible. So....

Now, I've flashed the latest JPK with odin and did a full wipe of as much as I could (cache, factory reset) from the recovery menu after and before. (I've come from the HTC Hero and sorely miss Amon-Ra's recovery features)

Now I'm having a few issues with this beta froyo build - especially when rebooting which takes an absolute age and a couple of times my icons haven't showed up!?

Wondering if I should have removed Voodoo lagfix before wiping and flashing the JPK??

Is there any way now that I'm on JPK to check if the Voodoo stuff is still there or any way of completely "re-setting" the device and removing all erroneous partitions etc that Voodoo might have set up?

My phone kinda works ok and I don't really want to go back to 2.1 because of the features in 2.2 but I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction getting my phone back to zero. Will I need to root? I can use adb if I have to...

Any help much appreciated.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dupel:
Sorry, I as probably about 90% of people here just didnt bother to read. Why? Because you are IN THE WRONG FORUM
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arkhanist:
Flashing JPK will have blown away the custom voodoo kernel; factory reset will have wiped the ext4 partition that voodoo makes and rebuilt it with RFS (samsung's own file system).

Rebooting is rather sluggish on JPK; you can install the one-click-lag fix (oclf, available on market) though I've found it doesn't really need it for normal operation.

Be careful restoring app data via titanium, mybackup pro and the google built in backup (under privacy) between eclair and froyo - it can cause all sorts of oddities and force closes. Backing up the internal sd card, formatting it, and restoring only your own data files (rather than app caches) can also help.

Blowing away the internal sd card, and a factory reset, will get you back to zero. Then reinstall apps, resync with google etc, and go easy on bringing appdata back, and you should *hopefully* be fine.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alsheron:
Thanks for the detailed reply - much appreciated and exactly what I needed to know :-)

Just can't wait till the final Froyo ROM and a decent and fully reatured recovery from one of the genius and generous devs around these parts.
[TG01 General] Zenec:
Hi

I tried searching the forums but didn't manage to find anything.. Where can I find the official orange UK rom? The version doesn't really matter - I just need it so I can take my phone for a warranty repair as the screen seems to be faulty.

Thanks!
[TG01 General] voodoons:
http://www.toshibamobile-europe.com/Products/TG01/Support/Softwareupdates.aspx
[TG01 General] Zenec:
When I click on the software updates link on the site, it give me a 404 error :( Thanks anyway, though.. Any other links?
[TG01 General] chada777:
I have it lying around somewhere - Ill upload it for you by Wednesday Evening.

If not, see if this page works for you:

Add www and http since I can not post links yet.

It worked fine for me when I put my IMEI in.
[TG01 General] m.cakmak:
"toshibamobile-europe.com/Default.aspx?tabid=583" This link is fine work. Thnx...
[TG01 General] Zenec:
Thanks, this is working just fine! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zvenn:
As the thread says - when do you think official Froyo will be released?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Intratech:
September 23, 2011
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Valeo:
April 1 2012.

:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zvenn:
I reckon the last week of October, or November if they don't fix everything in time. ;/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] opica:
Different regions, probably different dates.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] thunderteaser:
A new important research showed that the Maya were not predicting an end of an era, but the official release for Froyo on Galaxy S.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] barakoas:
I wont vote coz theres no "NEVER" option.. :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] totality:
Glad I sold the phone now and won't be buying a Samsung one again. I read before I bought it that Samsung support was shocking for new firmwares, but people said it was their flagship phone so they would sort it out quickly. Alas, no they didn't so their old reputation still rings true!

Sticking with HTC from now on ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Schmich:
Agreed. I seriously don't understand why Samsung cannot get their act together when it comes to the software on the phone which has sold many millions across the World.

With the lag, the GPS problems and the slow releases on updates there is no way I would recommend or buy another Samsung phone. They had one chance to change their reputation for the better and they blew it...or should I say "didn't care".
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hansonator:
I have heard the same complaining before htc phones got their updates. Look how long since the first froyo rolled out ( excluding N1) till now and still not all updated. Evo and the Droid Inc. have been out waaaayyy longer than the GS's and the DInc just got hers.

I wouldn't sweat it. If having to wait a few weeks for an update is a deal breaker for you than Android is not for you, unless you you get a Nexus 1.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Prasad:
Seriously.... What is the point of this ?? Can't we just be patient and wait... Anyway, it will release on different dates for different regions....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] opica:
:D:D:D

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[Galaxy S I9000 General] NetCopAD:
I would wait patiently if my $500 phone was working OK or If they were waiting patiently for me to pay it when it gets fixed. But they got my money and I didn't get a working phone. So I'm not being patient.

Hope this makes sense.

Cheers!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] psp888:
2.2 cancelled, go straight to Gingerbread.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] barakoas:
hahaha good luck to you then :cool: I dont see any difference between htc and samsung.. had few htc phones.. but no thank you im sticking with sammy for now! but hey there is some difference.. more geeks posting on htc threads.. so it might let u feel that htc have bigger support :P

just my opinion.. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andrewluecke:
Umm.. Millions of people around the world are using this phone, and are using it without a lag fix (such as myself).

And yes, there are many people happy with this phone too. My only issue with this phone is GPS, and that isn't enough for me to throw out this phone
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hurikhan:
What is the POINT of those topics???
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Prasad:
BEST post so far IMO!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] vinclar:
They will not release froyo until galaxy tab comes to market, so I think 15th october or later
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
whre the option for January ? :D :p
[Galaxy S I9000 General] stan28:
I like this phone. The screen alone makes me stay with Samsung. GPS issue is the only negative part, which Samsung has to fix.

Oh, when will Froyo be released ?

Perhaps Dec 25th, 2012. Merry X'Mas from Samsung.

Sent from my GT-I9000M
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dtran00:
Like everyone i am eagerly waiting for the magical unicorn that is froyo. If they need more time to make this a solid update that will spawn less threads *****ing about how the rushed the firmware then i am all for it.

I cant even imagine how slow its going to be to update when it does hit(because of all of us downloading :)).

When do i think it will be released? I am going to say before the end of the year.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uehsgerg:
I can't find the fix on the forum, if there is already a fix, please guide me there.

I flash voodo with lagfix, and then it boots to the recovery screen after the second time reboot. I also try to boot to the download mode by holding volume+usb plug-in, but Kies always shows connecting device, and it never gets connected. Please help. Any help will be appreciated.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ickyboo:
Hmm.. I can't help you with the voodoo fix but I can help you try to get out of this bug,

move down and select cache partition, run it. then move up to wipe data, select it and run it. Now this will delete all your data. now reboot. see if the machine works. if so good. Now see if you can install that voodoo update.zip fix again. if not good I highly recommend you don't run it as it tends to eat alot of battery power for me. Worst case you could just install JM8 and look for this Ta-something rom which has voodoo 4 built in.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] 3roz:
hello im new to this.. forum.. and i will like to know if one of u can help me, i had try many androids builds for my htc hd2.. but i cant get any of then to work 100%

well the only problem im having is with the audio every time i try to make a call.. the audiodoes not work (is really bad... sorry for my english

thanks!!