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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BHS Interceptor:
CHTS Theme Switching UpDate

Hola, after reading some posts in this thread, but also mainly in other "CHT Theme" related threads, I would like to give you a small update on the develpment of this great feature of CHTS...

At the beginning, you could switch profiles and layouts (based on the same, one and only "theme") with CHTS, as well as Wallpapers and Profiles. For those of you that follow this thread and the evolution of this application, you have seen great improvements made with each release.... Now it´s time to inform about the "theme switching" capability of CHTS... and this is the "status quo"

So far all the themes we´ve played with and tested (far over 20), but depending on the definition of "Theme" as in "Fully Skinned" device (including WinMo side as well as all menues and submenues), "Partially Skinned" (CHT and all tabs as well as some menues and submenues), or "Standard Skinned" (CHT, all widgets and tabs - without most menues and submenues)..., are CHTS switchable on a "Standard" basis - I have to admitt, this is not my achievement, but the result of all members of CHTS and CHTA group and their great support and abilities :D

Theme-Switching-Issues arise from most themes not having a "working" or well defined CHTTheme.xml, and also most "themers" not considering the "white paper" for it, as well as widgets not beeing "clean" (especially since the addon widgets getting corrupted by others...), mixing manilas not beeing compatible with lower(older)/upper(newer) versions (and not communicating this to users) and so on... Also themes that are intended (prior to CHT 2.0 and CHTS) to work on one device as only theme..., so, there are some minor and mayor issues :o

At this moment, the teams are working on "establishing" such a CHTTheme.xml and even provide a "template" to avoid this and also to "set the rules for the game" :D

- Dialers, Taskbars and WinMo themes are beeing looked at, but... it´s pretty sensible to do that. So for the time beeing, only (which is already a lot) Sense/CHT Switching :D

As a reference of some of the work that has been done in this direction:

MrBeOPT´s WinDroid´s, all 5 switching, working on tin2404 themes (he has besides the newer ones StarTrek and StarGate, also some very nice older ones and a beatiful weather skin) as well as ConanTroutman´s OrangeStreet (Full - besides his four CHTS Themes), his Cubism themes (4), Miller´s SilverShine, DJCedric´s TouchofGlas, Dinik´s ansatasia, LeCiel´s Sencity, Lunie´s Saya, Steve 007 & Dunc´s Elegancia, Antaed´s Nummum Bull´s Eye, s2w´s SimmWorks (3 themes), Geralt´s Metro, NeoXL´s Win7... all of these with agreement of the original "Themers" as well as some other ones put together by pieces. And last but not least, some of Santod´s great contributions for CHT as well as from other members of the CHT Groups such as rat_2665, Dunc001, Poyensa, Mike2nl, Saugbaer, Bonito77 and of course MichelDiamond and CoOkie :D

Stay tuned for more in this direction, and please, if you like a theme, and want it to be CHTS Switchable, let the "themer" know ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Very cool! I will exchange the link in post 3 from previous to this posting.

Could you also change something in text, that users know, that your skin works on 2.16 as well? (I haven't changed any icon name from 2.15 to 2.16, so I know that it is fully compatible)

Thanx for the work!

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 8SE8:
Great software... just a quick question... is there an option (or combination of options) which will automatically turn on wifi for the phone every time it is connected to a power outlet? (I have a limited data plan, so this will be very helpful at night when the phone is charging). Thanks for any help :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mariconjo:
Micha,

you are really 'taking your time'! Only 5 hours after my post an update, what a service!!

Installing and trying now, thanks!!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vadim_bogaiskov:
Russian translation updated for v.2.16 (see http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=9092422&postcount=614)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jsmccabe78:
thanks for the update...my post is updated as well. and thanks as always for chts!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
not yet. This is an Event and if I would add to much combinations already, then they wouldn't even then cover the needs of the users.

So this will be possible, when I add Event Handling to CHTS. Then you can let switch the profile because of an event. Therefore the special-profiles will be very useful, where you do more minor things and better don't switch the Layout. Only the initial Wifi and other needed data settings.

But don't expect it this year :) Before Event Handling, Theme switching and Location handling will come.

you're welcome, mate

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ChefChaudart:
A small translation issue for French.

When you exit & apply, you have message

"Paramètres correctement

sauvegardés. Voulez-vous les"

I assume that something like " .. appliquer" is missing. :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ric69:
Thanks Chef :p "appliquer" is there, but messagebox is too small :D

Try this one, we don't need to see "correctement" after all :) Put in ProgramFiles\CHTS

@+
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Hey cool, Ric :) Very fast *g*

(You have really long words in your language, Cheff :) I hope your SMS may be longer than 160 signs for 1 SMS :) )

I only miss somebody from Poland who translate it to Polish - as it was asked... shall we use Google Translator for it? That could be funny :)

jsmccabe78: You're welcome :)

Oh - @All: I would need a bit feedback about Full Sense Backup. Simply what's your experiences. How long does it take on your device for saving and so (please also with telling which device)

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jrmstl:
Difference between profile-based network switching and manuel icon-based switching ?

Hi Michel, hi everyone else,

I may have a trouble/question about the Network switching.

Actually I only use two profiles: Day and Night, in semi-automatic mode.

Day only gets back light at a strong level w/ light sensor regulation on AND switch network on (to get phone connectivity back), while Night only disable light sensor regulation for back light and set it to a low intensity.

I use a free-link icon from CHTS add-on to manually switch network off (the "Network" icon).

So when I'm going to sleep, I click this icon to get the network off, with success at anytime.

My question is: why isn't this icon switched to ON when Day profile switches the network on ?

In fact, the network is really switched on or off with toggle icon, and also really switched on by Day profile.

But when Day profile switches network on, the toggle-icon for network stays on OFF position.

Is it normal ? Is it a bug ? Have I misunderstood the real meaning of the "Network" toggle-icon ?

Please check my CHTSSettings as joined bellow in this post.

Thanks for your attention.

--Jrmstl
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cromio:
will you make a new set for v.1.16?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] congusto:
(not) Understanding bluetooth settings

I went from version 2.10 to 2.16. I'm impressed, again. Now with the profile jump quicklinks, it has become even more user friendly, and also the option to make a complete sense backup is awesome.

One question, though, that I haven't seen asked before:

I'm not sure how to set the bluetooth switches in a profile to get bluetooth on AND my phone visible to new devices (that is, devices not already known to the HD2 as a bluetooth pairable device).

Whatever combination I choose for "Bluetooth hidden" and "Bluetooth visible" bluetooth will switch on in some of them, but the phone remains unvisible.

It's not a big problem, because I found out that using the CHT bluetooth toggle gives me the bluetooth visibility when BT is switched on using it, so I use that as a work around, but still I'd like to determine the visibility in a profile without the work around.

Moreover, if devices are already known as pairable devices, the HD2 doesn't have to be visible to pair with them again automatically, so for every new device, the HD2 has to be visible only the first time they pair. That makes my problem even smaller.

The names of the switches are a bit confusion I think. I'd expect something like "Bluetooth On/Off" (which I think is now named "Bluetooth hidden On/Off") and "Bluetooth visible On/Off" (which, if I am correct, doesn't work, the phone is always invisible). The current names seem contradictionary to me.

But, as I said, no really big problems, just a minor flaw, at least on my phone.

Please let me know if I misunderstood something. Hope I was able to explain my BT issue without being confusing myself.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmsc:
I found the same problem with the visibility of the bluetooth, the bluetooth icon in the task bar shows bluetooth is in invisible mode no matter what bluetooth option I check on the CHTS, but the phone pairs with my car just as well so I had forgotten about that.

I had also trouble with the wallpaper switch from night to savemyday, in the night profile, the normal potrait wallpaper is set to a fixed image, and in savemyday is set to very wide potrait and rotate from a folder of images. But when night swithes to savemyday automatically, the wallpaper stays in the fixed night potrait wallpaper. If I manually hit the quicklink to change wallpaper, then it switches to the very wide potraits of savemyday and continues rotating during the day as it should. Same thing with the lockscreen wallpaper. Wallpapers settings do not seem to change from night profile to savemyday in automatic. In my case, there is no layout change in the profile changes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BHS Interceptor:
Hola SpongeWorthy, first of all thanks for helping and assisting on this one ;) ATM, as you and other users can see, we have been splitting up some sections and features withing our team, so regarding themes, you´ll be dealing with me at the "surface" and with MD in the "Background", so I´m kinda filtering some suff...

In that last post, I could not find your chttheme.xml but I think it´s the same as in your post 1149... Right now we´re checking into dialers, taskbars, e-mail and sms, since these depend on the dlls in WinMo and not "native" Sense and I agree with you, some of them beeing fundamental parts of a "Full Theme" ;):D:p.

Maybe if we can find a workaround for the graphics in this case, or develop some addon widgets (or sense clients) for them, just like the ones for calendar and musicplayer, we´d be good to go - but for the moment, you´ll have to use the "dialer" (and the other items mentioned) that best suit "all" themes....

Hola, will check on your issue this WE after some tests - but could you please also check if this changes when you change your powering options? For me, on my device, wallper switching has always worked fine, but I don´t use very wide wallpapers (onlt fixed and wide). Have you checked if after "automatically" switching from night to day, (and wp not changing) if you soft reset will changes apply? Muchas gracias ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Hi - thanx for settings. They looks ok, I would say. At night network off, savemyday correct setted with 3-state.

I miss your device info - so I'm not sure, in which direction is better, but play a bit around with the switch options in settings:

- Profile change delay rate (5 or 30)

- change in lock without Layout (off - only too see, if your timeout while lock is too short)

Also try "regular powering" in power mode and also try to activate the message box if you come out of goodnite.

IT's sometimes difficult to find something, WinMo is very different on some devices.

Please feedback, if some of these things made a difference, otherwise we can search on :)

Regards

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Hi,

thanx for the nice words :)

Bluetooth: Don't think too complicated:

If you need Bluetooth hidden, then only switch this to on

If you need Bluetooth visible/discoverable, the only switch this on.

Better do not combine hidden AND visible - then I also wouldn't know, what would be prefered :)

To switch BT off, it's indifferent, if you switch Hidden or Visible off - but also better not to combine both.

Could you try it and feedback then?

Thanx in advance

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ras2009030:
Thank you for the excellent work !!

In combination with CHTScheduler

that is exactly what I was looking for

For me it is a nice Christmas present

Have a really happy Christmas and a happy New Year
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmsc:
Gracias!

I checked if this bug happens when using the regular powering in profile change setting instead of the smooth power for switch, and it still does (I'm using a HD2)

As to the second question, I will double check but I believe so, it only happens when there is an auto profile switch from night to day. In the morning when I grab my phone and is already in day profile, I find that the wallpaper is still the one from the night profile, all other settings are fine, just th wallpaper diod not change.

But in all other intances when switching to day the wallpaper swicthes fine, i.e. If I reset the device, or if reload the profile viu the "reload profile" quicklink button, or manually set another profile and then switch back to automatic in day, ect. the wallpaper changes correctly.

un saludo!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
Could you export HKCU/Software/CHTScheduler if your device has switched from Night to Morning profile?

there are Keys inside, which denies a wallpaper change in some cases (e.g. time is around alarm time, your are phoning and so - key names are "wallpaper.LastChangeDisallowed" and "wallpaper.LastChangeStateDisallowed"

The wall only changes if both are 0

If this is the case, then I assume, that there is something happens at night, which kills cht_wall.exe of CHT, which can be only re-initialized by Sense-Restart or Soft-Reset.

Could you also look, if a bit longer suspend timeouts at night works? (You can set them in Power&Backlight for Night-Profile, like you already know)

Perhaps BHS Interceptor can also reproduce it with your settings, but I think it's something in the above mentioned sections.

Thank you :)

I also wish you a Merry Xmas with your present & an Guten Rutsch :)

Micha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] congusto:
Micha, thanks for the answer. I followed your instructions as I understand them for profiles OnTheRoad and SaveMyDay, but my problem with using only the BT Visible setting is that then I can not switch BT on or off anymore. Nothing happens if I switch between the two profiles.

This is what I did:

1) Used the CHT BT toggle to switch BT on and make the device visible, so that I at least now that the starting point is OK.

2) Changed the profile OnTheRoad in which I want BT on by only activitating the BT visible setting, and set it to On. In SaveMyDay I also only activated the BT visible setting and set it to Off.

Just checking: If I turn BT off manually and leave the visibility as it is, I am not able to turn BT on again by using the profiles.

If I make my device invisible manually and I use the profiles as set above, my device remains invisible.

So my conclusion is that the BT Visible switch doesn't work, at least not on my machine. It doesn't switch BT on or off, and doesn't change the visibility, either.

Again, this is not a big problem for me, but I think this is something that you want to solve to make the program even better.

And not to push you into anything, but I still think that seperate switches for BT on/off and Visibility on/off would be more logical. It would also allow us to switch BT only on or off and simply leave the visibility as it is (on, off or set to visible for 60 seconds) by leaving the visibility switch deactivated. Maybe something to think about for the next version, then?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cmsc:
Thanks Micha. I checked the "wallpaper.LastChangeDisallowed" and "wallpaper.LastChangeStateDisallowed" keys after the profile change from night to day and they were both 0, yet the wallpapers did not change. Then I hit the quicklink for reload profile, and then the wallpapers changed to the day one.

In case there was something happening during the night that killed the cht_wall.exe, I altered the night profile to last until 5 minutes from now (lunch time), after it was in day mode previously before applying these settings, then after it switched back to day automatically from night, the wallpapers did not switch. So the phone was on night profile for only 5 minues at lunch time and it still happened.

Also I do not need to restart sense to get it working, just reload the day profile and then the wallpapers start to cycle correctly. And it happens with very wide potraits, or normal potraits, and also lockscreen wallpaper, ect. Size or type of wallpaper does not matter.

I'm afraid I did not understand the part about increasing the suspend timeouts during night profile. What time interval should I set the suspend timeout for to try? Currently I have the Power&Backlight settings disabled for all profiles so there is no change in that from day to night. They are set in the settings of the phone as suspend after 1min on battery and 2min on AC power. But there is no difference on the bug if its charging or on battery.

Its no big deal though, I'm just reporting it and offering feedback in case its usefull, the software is awsome as it is, and this is just a little detail which may be a bug or may be just happening to me. Thanks for you help!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] daliGR:
This note goes to the CHTS developers (I had purchased a scheduler for my HD2 but I scrapped it after it drained my battery extremely, making it not useful):

1) A VERY USEFUL feature is to have the scheduler execute a specific profile when an event is taking place. I.e. when an incoming or outbound call takes place, the Bluetooth could start automatically (this was done with the scheduler I purchased). This is very useful in car, where without activating BT everytime, once a call comes in, CHTS can activates BT stack and then you use your BT handsfree. Once th call ends, CHTS returns to normal shutting down BT stack.

2) The profile selection (via quicklink) must be more user friendly (fast selection), and the profiles must be able to be edited/moved up or down (mostly used profiles could stay on top for fast selection).

3) There is a lot of clutter in CHTS where, even reading the manual, you remain somehow confused as to the so many selections; what I mean is the too many options make the sw too complicated to operate fast and easy (my opinion).

Dimi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jnnnnj520:
hello

I admit I'm stupid

I can't find the language download

Help me?

thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] santod040:
You've quoted the links to them all.

Some are included in the app, the rest are linked in the quote you posted.

Just click the name of the language you need.

Which one were you looking for?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jnnnnj520:
Thanks for your kind reply

When I click Traditional Chinese by Baristaart (in CHTS .cab)

Back to the current page

There is no definite download
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fatmonk:
Three little letters writ big....

Wow!

-fm
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] conantroutman:
Hey Michel.....

I see you've been kept busy :D

Quick question...... whats the easiest way to generate an xml for a chts layout...

Is there any way to automaticaly create one once I get the theme set on my device??

Sorry if thats a stupid question but Ive never had to deal with xmls before.....

Thanks......
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rickgillyon:
Hi, great tool, thanks! But would be really useful if it could set backlight along with profile, i.e. on SaveMyDay I want backlight always 100%, on Night I want always backlight off. That would make it perfect... thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jpriset:
Not correctly changing Sound Profile

Great Tool but I can't get it to work correctly.

I setup Work4Me to be 7:30am-4pm and I only changed the sound profile. So I set to vibrate, set Ringer Volume to 0 and kept System/InCall volume at 60%(which says is separate). I would like the phone to vibrate while still allowing me to listen to music.

The profile gets set correctly and I see the sound icon set to vibe. When I try and listen to music I don't hear anything.

I'm now trying to manually force SaveMyDay but even after a restart, the icon shows Work4Me (after changing to manual and restarting). I can't seem to change the profile to anything else now (based on the profile and sound icon). I've used spbPhoneSuite in the past so I know how it should work, just not happening. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike2nl:
Michel, i am quite busy now and the version 1.2 is in droppy :D. You can test is before.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Symondo:
ok. Installed CHTS - backed it up n have started reading the manual..... this is actually more involved than when i get my phone to start with!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sirgawain123:
first my thanks to the CHT-CHTE-CHTS teams

If I may suggest an additional feature to CHTS, that would be profile changing based also on location(cell tower Id)

but , once again, thank you for what has already been developed and shared
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ducklas1:
+1

i know this from phoneweaver and would be awesome!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sponge_worthy:
I like the idea of CHTS and currently use G-Profile. I'd like to throw another request in the hat. I like to set a certain profile based on my location - GPS coordinates of work, church, or school. It would be awesome if you could add an option to activate a profile based on where you are - or your proximity (+500 ft or so) to a set spot.

Just a request though. I'll keep using G-Profile though. Great work though and I'm going to continue to try it to change themes.

Edit: Okay, I see that I waited to long to post the reply due to work and someone beat me to the suggestion.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
mmh, to mix vibration with sound... I think, that can't be done on the most devices

some can't make different system and ring volume, as far as I know.

so perhaps 70% system and 10% ring... I xan imagine that this is simulated with event triggering to get the vibration. sometimes it's hard with winmo and all the different Roms.I will play around with it and look, what can be done

for your second issue: yes, it's a bug,that in manually mode a profile can't be switched, if it has no layout.

I fix it, I only want to collect a little bit the issues (and I'm very happy that there is no major bug so far *wood knock knock knock* ) so that I can make a bunch of little fixes and some little features. await it the next days :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MichelDiamond:
also: sponge_worthy & ducklas:

the 1st day of public CHTS, more than 1000 downloads and features,which weren't in other schedulers already or after 1-2 years or so (I never used a scheduler because of not liking of battery drain before, so this is only a personal opinion) ...and free, too.

and today I was asked from different sides, not only here, for cell tower id...

but yes - location based event handling is also on the roadmap, Co0kie and I talked about it last week already :) But Sense has no cell tower id - it uses gps and data connection...and that's not good for the battery and also not good for users with no unlimitted flat.

But there's an option, because of the system-state part I wrote in CHT. And that should work, but it needs a cht-update, a good proof-of-concept and a „learn mode“ for the locations. then it's ok. but it won't be the first, I will do. Also there will come something nice in CHT with it...so it needs its time :)

Micha

(he he, with my introducing words, you thought, I don't want it to put in, right? sorry 4 joking :) )